[21:41] <fairuz_> I'm building my first package, when I run debuild, at the very end, it tried to sign the .changes file. I have something like "You need a passphrase to unlock the secret key for ...." but it never ask me for the passphrase. So when I try to upload the package, it fails saying the changes is not signed.
[21:41] <qazokm> bytesaber_work, geegeegeegee babybabybaby
[21:41] <fairuz_> Any pointers?
[21:41] <bytesaber_work> qazokm, no korean pop right now
[21:42] <Al_nz1> tlhonmey: looks like gnome-shell is
[21:42] <Al_nz1> tlhonmey: dont I need gnome-shell?
[21:43] <yeats> !packaging | fairuz_ - this may have some information
[21:43] <tlhonmey> Al_nz1: I'm not sure.  I don't have it in my list.
[21:43] <tlhonmey> Al_nz1: Try killing it and see what goes away I guess...  I'm not even finding what it is easily.
[21:44] <dlentz> fairuz, do you have gpg installed (and have a gpg key)?
[21:45] <oliphant> how would I remove gnome 3 without removing nautilus form ubuntu?
[21:45] <dlentz> you can also run debsign to sign the changes/.dsc files
[21:45] <dlentz> oliphant, you mean remove gnome-shell?
[21:45] <oliphant> yes
[21:45] <fairuz_> dlentz: I follow the guide and uploaded my gpg key to the launchpad profile
[21:45] <tlhonmey> oliphant: You would remove gnome 3 and install gnome 2.  Don't expect it to be easy.
[21:46] <dlentz> what happens when you run debsign (man debsign)
[21:46] <Al_nz1> tlhonmey: much better - ta
[21:46] <fairuz_> yeats: That's what I follow right now
[21:46] <yeats> fairuz_: ok ;-)
[21:46] <anao2> gnome 3 is terrible waste
[21:46] <dlentz> tlhonmey, you don't need gnome2 to use nautilus, unity uses it
[21:46] <xubuntu5> what does it mean 1 running and unjoined
[21:46] <xubuntu5> i try to start a program in my terminal and get
[21:46] <xubuntu5> 1 running and unjoined
[21:47] <oliphant> actually I want to get rid of Gnome altogether. Is it just sudo apt-get remove gnome-shell?
[21:47] <tlhonmey> dlentz: ok.  The last time I tried something like that it ended up installing most of gnome to meet dependencies.
[21:47] <Myrtti> oliphant: no.
[21:47] <anao2> unity+gnome 3 burns resources do you all agree?
[21:47] <yeats> oliphant: what environment do you want to run?
[21:47] <Myrtti> anao2: no polls please
[21:47] <fairuz_> dlentz: The .changes file is already signed.
[21:47] <fairuz_> I got that
[21:47] <oliphant> fvwm
[21:47] <xubuntu5> icewm
[21:47] <oliphant> I have limited disk space
[21:47] <xubuntu5> check out icewm
[21:47] <escott> xubuntu5, you backgrounded a process and it is still running fg to bring it forward ctrl-z bg to put it back in the background jobs to list
[21:48] <DonaldShimoda> i need to migrate my ubuntu, is using RAID 0 , need to reeplace this disks for two new disks
[21:48] <DonaldShimoda> any easy way to do this without reinstall OS?
[21:48] <xubuntu5> thanks
[21:48] <anao2> @Myrtti polls? what does it mean?
[21:48] <tlhonmey> DonaldShimoda: Copy the contents of the old disks to the new ones will most likely suffice.
[21:49] <Myrtti> anao2: "do you all agree"
[21:49] <anao2> i don't understand why ubuntu developers forces users to buy new hardware with every release
[21:49] <LjL> !ot | anao2
[21:50] <anao2> @Myrtti ok..
[21:50] <DonaldShimoda> tlhonmey, i need create a new raid with the new disks but how to copy the contents on a running server without lost data?
[21:50] <yeats> oliphant: I would consider installing with the mini.iso version of Ubuntu and just installing the packages you need from there
[21:50] <yeats> !mini | oliphant
[21:50] <tlhonmey> DonaldShimoda: Generally you shut down the server to avoid that.
[21:51] <DonaldShimoda> tlhonmey, if i shutdown the server how will have access to my data?
[21:51] <yeats> oliphant: probably easier (and definitely cleaner) than installing the full version and trying to subtract
[21:51] <DonaldShimoda> tlhonmey, sorry for ask, i dont follow how to do this
[21:51] <tlhonmey> DonaldShimoda: You boot it up on a separate medium like a live CD.
[21:51] <oliphant> thanks yeats and ubottu.
[21:51] <DonaldShimoda> tlhonmey, i dont know how to mount my arrays botting from a live cd
[21:51] <DonaldShimoda> any tutto?
[21:53] <tlhonmey> DonaldShimoda: Unfortunately that's going to depend on how they're set up...  But, theoretically you could unplug the drives from the server, plug them into a different machine, along with the new drives, and use dd to copy everything from the old ones to the new ones.
[21:53] <yeats> DonaldShimoda: can you afford downtime?  if so, you might investigate clonezilla
[21:54] <ztag100> what IRC client do you guys use?
[21:54] <tlhonmey> DonaldShimoda: clonezilla is a good option if it will handle your raid setup.
[21:54] <DonaldShimoda> tlhonmey, i plan to do on the same server, justa dd the new disks, make a new raid and copy the info
[21:54] <DonaldShimoda> tlhonmey, great! Will find it
[21:54] <DonaldShimoda> yeats, btw, thank you too
[21:54] <tlhonmey> DonaldShimoda: do you have a hardware raid controller?  Or is it software?
[21:54] <yeats> DonaldShimoda: sure ;-)
[21:54] <Canadian1296> ztag100: What irc client do you use?
[21:54] <LjL> ztag100: do you want an answer from all 1594 people here? :P poll in #ubuntu-bots, there is a bot there with people's votes on programs
[21:54] <DonaldShimoda> tlhonmey, software raid
[21:55] <DonaldShimoda> tlhonmey, linux controlled
[21:55] <tlhonmey> DonaldShimoda: ok, so you should be able to just tell clonezilla not to worry about the raid and just copy the contents of the devices across.
[21:56] <tlhonmey> DonaldShimoda: It will save you possibly some time over dd since it'll only copy the used sectors.
[21:56] <DonaldShimoda> tlhonmey, really? but i have three partitions inside the raid
[21:56] <DonaldShimoda> what will do, expand the size or dont?
[21:56] <tlhonmey> DonaldShimoda: ...  Actually it probably won't since it'll only have parts of the filesystem on each disk...
[21:57] <tlhonmey> DonaldShimoda: So it won't be able to figure out what's used, so it'll just use dd...
[21:58] <tlhonmey> DonaldShimoda: If it can parse the filesystem, it simply skips copying sectors that aren't in use.  The partition sizes come out the same, but you don't have to copy all the zeros that you don't care about.
[21:59] <DonaldShimoda> can resize later?
[21:59] <tlhonmey> DonaldShimoda: But that probably won't work where it won't have the filesystem information easily available since it's split across two disks.
[21:59] <tlhonmey> DonaldShimoda: Yes.
[22:00] <tlhonmey> DonaldShimoda: Are you using the raid for your general filesystem?  Or for something specific?
[22:00] <DonaldShimoda> tlhonmey, /  /home and swap :(
[22:00] <Bealhorm> Hello
[22:01] <tlhonmey> DonaldShimoda: You're probably going to have to fire up a live CD then.
[22:01] <BlouBlou> Hi
[22:02] <tlhonmey> DonaldShimoda: The program to assemble the raid from the live cd will be mdadm.  I'm not sure where it stores the settings for what you have now.
[22:05] <Dioxin> does anyone know how to set my display to be a remote location?
[22:05] <ikonia> Dioxin: what do you mean ?
[22:05] <BlouBlou> Hi, when I try to open Muon (using KDE) I get this: "Ejecutable: muon-installer PID: 7503 Señal: Segmentation fault (11)". Any idea?
[22:05] <Dioxin> export DISPLAY=<IP_ADDRESS>:0.0 ; gedit fails
[22:05] <ikonia> Dioxin: define "fails"
[22:06] <Dioxin> on the <IP_ADDRESS> box I've done "xhost +"
[22:06] <ikonia> Dioxin: define "fails"
[22:06] <Dioxin> cannot open display
[22:06] <tlhonmey> Dioxin: You may need to tell the X server on the remote machine to bind to the network interface.  I don't believe it is by default.
[22:07] <Dioxin> tlhonmey: Where do I find this?
[22:07] <Afzal> hey people
[22:07] <ikonia> tlhonmey: really ? it should be running on the network by default
[22:07] <ikonia> Dioxin: disable ubuntu firewall
[22:07] <Afzal> can anyone tell me the permissions on their /etc folder (or any folder in root), I'm seeing a lock on all of them in nautilus
[22:08] <ikonia> Afzal: what are your permissions
[22:08] <Canadian1296> Afzal: ls -l /etc
[22:08] <Afzal> root:root 755 I believe (rwx,rx,rx)
[22:08] <BlouBlou> I'm getting this problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/854609/
[22:08] <ikonia> Afzal: ok, so you should be able to see into /etc
[22:09] <yakc> hey. compiz grid doesn't work at all. is there a fix?
[22:09] <Dioxin> firewall disabled and still no go, how do I bind to the network?
[22:09] <Afzal> ikonia, I am, I just dislike the lock icon there.
[22:09] <ikonia> Afzal: so, just so I'm clear, you want to change the permissions of the core configuration directory of you system as you don't like the padlock icon ?
[22:10] <tlhonmey> Dioxin: I'm not sure...
[22:10] <yakc> fresh install and ccsm installed and checked that the grid is turned on
[22:10] <Canadian1296> Afzal: The lock is because it's owned by root. I don't recommend changing that...
[22:10] <Afzal> Canadian1296, is the lock present on your computer? I thought it wasn't there before I installed kubuntu in another partition and mounted this drive there
[22:10] <geirha> Canadian1296: No, the lock is because it's not writable for the user
[22:11] <pulse00> hi all. does anyone know how i can specify a specific source when upgrading a package using apt-get?
[22:11] <tlhonmey> Dioxin:  Crazy thought...  It might work to use the ssh X11 forwarding to forward the display the way you want, and then have your second ssh session use the first session's display for its output.
[22:11] <Canadian1296> geirha: So like I said. Owned by root, he doesn't have permission to write.
[22:11] <Afzal> geirha, is right...but iirc, it wasn't writable before either :/ I just wanna know if the lock is there by default
[22:11] <Canadian1296> Afzal: Yes the lock is there.
[22:12] <Dioxin> tlhonmey: you lost me
[22:12] <Afzal> Canadian1296, alright, just making sure. I made a lot of big changes to the system (moved /home into its own partition etc)
[22:12] <tlhonmey> Dioxin: You could also use screen to ssh -X from the machine you want the program to show up on, and then ssh into that machine from the one you want to control from and reconnect to the screen session.
[22:12] <Afzal> Canadian1296, ikonia, geirha : thanks :)
[22:12] <pr0ton> i'm doing this right now, and fairly confused. i pipe the output of a python file to xargs wget
[22:13] <Dioxin> tlhonmey: I dont think that will work from my setup :(
[22:13] <pr0ton> the output is of the form "--output-document=/mydir/myfilexxx.log http://blah/blah/url"
[22:13] <tlhonmey> Dioxin can you connect from the controller machine to the output machine and from the output machine to the running machine?  If so it should work, you just might have to install screen.
[22:14] <pr0ton> however wget just uses one of the outputdocument
[22:14] <tlhonmey> Dioxin: Just tested it.  It should work.
[22:16] <geirha> pr0ton: because xargs run wget --output-document=foo http://foo --output-document=blah http://blah --output-doc...  and each subsequent --output-document just overides the previous.
[22:17] <p0lycode> http://dark-core.org/ < neues Forum, jeder ist willkommen! (German)
[22:17] <yakc> please can anyone tell why isn't my compiz grid working
[22:17] <tlhonmey> Dioxin: install screen and openssh-server on the display machine.  Then you can run screen and from the screen session ssh -X into the running machine.  Then you can ssh from the control machine into the display machine and screen -x to connect to the ssh session.
[22:18] <Dioxin> I think the issue is that my X is running with -nolisten :(
[22:18] <geirha> pr0ton: if the output contains one such set per line, then use a while read loop.  while read -ra line; do wget "${line[@]}"; done < <(command that outputs these lines)
[22:26] <darkthawt> exit
[22:27] <ThomasBoxley> 7 minutes without a question, that must be a record
[22:27] <CFHowlett> ThomasBoxley   must mean *buntu is working!
[22:28] <ku4e> Can anyone help me configure my soundcard on kubuntu11.10
[22:28] <ku4e> My line in is not working properly
[22:28] <darkthawt> Do most ubuntu users use Unity?
[22:28] <supermun> is there a Linux Mint room?
[22:28] <CFHowlett> !mint|supermun
[22:28] <supermun> ty
[22:28] <supermun> if i only like the Mint desktop can i get it on Ubuntu? i dont like the side bar unity thing?
[22:29] <supermun> i want something more simple
[22:29] <Akls> darkthawt, some even use Lubuntu, Kubuntu or Xubuntu :)
[22:29] <CFHowlett> supermun   if you like mint, install mint.
[22:29] <recon_tv> hi, trying to update sound juicer to fix a bug and am stuck http://paste.ubuntu.com/854638/
[22:29] <supermun> i dont know if i do, i know i just dnt like unity
[22:29] <mongy> supermun, lubuntu or xubuntu will suit you more then.
[22:29] <darkthawt> supermun, I use Gnome Shell. I think its great but with bugs.
[22:29] <Admin_User> Hello Ubuntu fans and geeks of ubuntu I have a Q that I would like to be answerd what virtualization machine or software sould I use to run ubuntu.
[22:30] <chipotle> i'm going to dualboot ubuntu and windows7. i am using windows7 solely for playing 1080p with DTS-HD/TrueHD audio (since this doesn't seem supported in linux?). is the best way to make a 100GB partition for win7 and when i want to watch a movie, copy the mkv to the ntfs partition first, or should i use a driver to load ext3 on windows7 and just make a small windows partition?
[22:30] <chipotle> what do you think?
[22:30] <Canadian1296> Admin_User: Virtualbox.
[22:30] <recon_tv> ok, seems that fix is just for lucid
[22:30] <CFHowlett> supermun   install virtualbox in ubuntu.  Then you can try as many different distros as you want without risking your ubuntu.  When you find one you can commit to, install it.
[22:30] <Dioxin> tlhonmey: the issue was inthe custom.conf in /etc/gdm it needed a security DisallowTCP=false thing added
[22:31] <NyLes> help me, i haven no sounds, aplay -l results with a no soundcard found
[22:31] <supermun> !mint|supermin
[22:31] <Admin_User> I used VirtualBox before it just lags up not a good one to use
[22:31] <supermun> ty
[22:31] <supermun> but how do i get to Mint support here?
[22:31] <supermun> i have questions
[22:31] <Canadian1296> Admin_User: It doesn't lag for me. Do you have enough RAM?
[22:31] <CFHowlett> supermun   this is not a mint support channel...
[22:31] <supermun> i know
[22:31] <supermun> how do it get to one?
[22:31] <supermun> is my question
[22:31] <Admin_User> I have 4GB of ram
[22:32] <CFHowlett> supermun   /join #linuxmint-help
[22:32] <supermun> ty
[22:32] <supermun> :)
[22:32] <otaviobarreto> Hi
[22:32] <CFHowlett> otaviobarreto   greetings
[22:32] <Canadian1296> How much did you give the virtual machine, and what os did you install on the virtual machine?
[22:32] <NyLes> help me, i haven no sounds, aplay -l results with a no soundcard found
[22:32] <mongy> Admin_User, did you install the guest additions?
[22:32] <Hiob> does somebody know something new about ubuntu on android?
[22:32] <Admin_User> No I have not should I do that on ubuntu
[22:33] <otaviobarreto> ..
[22:33] <otaviobarreto> testing
[22:33] <Canadian1296> Admin_User: If the guest doesn't have enough ram it lags.
[22:33] <Admin_User> is ubuntu 9.10 still supported
[22:33] <CFHowlett> !test|otaviobarreto
[22:33] <pulse00> i've added the dotdeb repository to my sources.list, but when i run "apt-get update php5" i'm getting "php5 is already the newest version", althouth dotdep repo has a newer version. anyone knows how to make apt-get aware of that version?
[22:34] <otaviobarreto> juts testign the irc colors
[22:34] <ariel`> does anybody know how to get permissions from the live cd
[22:34] <otaviobarreto> on xchat
[22:34] <mongy> Admin_User, you install the additions (drivers) in the guest Os
[22:34] <Oer> !karmic
[22:34] <zykotick9> pulse00: using debdeb on ubuntu is a bad idea.
[22:34] <zykotick9> s/debdeb/dotdeb/
[22:35] <otaviobarreto> where i have to set my message colors on x chat ?
[22:35] <pulse00> zykotick9: do you have any idea how to install php 5.3.8 on ubuntu 10.04 ?
[22:35] <martian> otaviobarreto: do that elsewhere like /join #otaviobarreto
[22:35] <zykotick9> pulse00: nope, sorry.
[22:35] <otaviobarreto> what ?
[22:35] <pulse00> zykotick9: thx anyway
[22:35] <martian> otaviobarreto: this is not a place to be testing things out. it's a support channel.
[22:37] <Admin_User> am going to install ubuntu 9.10 am downloading it right know so if I want to update it to 10.04 how should I do it or it wont update it to 10.04 only 11.10 or something am I saying that right
[22:37] <Canadian1296> Admin_User: Why 9.10?
[22:37] <martian> Admin_User: Yeah, why not just download 10.04 LTS instead?
[22:38] <Oer> where did you find that download ?
[22:38] <Admin_User> Because I want to know what am delling with start up slow I guest
[22:38] <martian> Admin_User: if anything, you'll be creating yourself more confusion by doing so
[22:39] <Canadian1296> Admin_User: If you're looking for stability use 10.04 LTS.
[22:39] <NyLes> can i repack a driver from puppy linux then use it in ubuntu?
[22:39] <tlhonmey> Dioxin:  Ok, I'll make a note of that.
[22:39] <Admin_User> Ya I know that but am just going to use it on my virtual machine what is so wrong just going up little steps for a change I guest
[22:40] <Canadian1296> Admin_User: You'll just confuse yourself by stepping up one release at a time. Pick the one you want and just use it.
[22:40] <otaviobarreto> tipe some if i see the coloer is working
[22:41] <Hiob> can unity do something like Expose in Mac os X or when you press SUPER in Gnome 3?
[22:41] <Admin_User> Okay Am going to install 10.04
[22:41] <martian> Admin_User: oh yeah I suppose that's fine then, but it's still a little goofy :)
[22:41] <otaviobarreto> hello some one
[22:41] <XuMuK> Hiob: not by default, but you can always tweak it
[22:41] <CFHowlett> otaviobarreto   greetings
[22:41] <otaviobarreto> type some just for teste here
[22:42] <otaviobarreto> if my irc color si rigth configuraded
[22:42] <Oer> Hiob like win + s ?
[22:42] <CFHowlett> !test|otaviobarreto
[22:42] <NyLes> can i use a driver from puppy linux?
[22:42] <Admin_User> am going to install ubuntu as a dual boot so I can use windows and ubuntu if I fell like it so I guest am going to be using 11.10
[22:42] <tlhonmey> NyLes: Definite Maybe.
[22:43] <Hiob> @ Oer not realy, i want so have just one destop
[22:43] <NyLes> tlhonmey: how will i do it?
[22:43] <tlhonmey> NyLes: But what driver is included in a minimal distro like Puppy that's not installed in Ubuntu?
[22:43] <sbisbee> Hi - QQ: I'm trying to checkout openssl from launchpad, but `bzr checkout lp:openssl` doesn't work. lp:openssl/trunk and lp:~vcs-imports/openssl/trunk also don't work.
[22:43] <sbisbee> (new the bzr so please excuse me if it's something basic)
[22:44] <NyLes> tlhonmey: soundcard driver.. Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM Ac'97
[22:44] <sbisbee> s/new the/new to/
[22:44] <phpn00b> how do I change the boot screen?
[22:45] <L3top> phpn00b: the splash loader?
[22:45] <tlhonmey> NyLes: How do you know that it's a driver issue?
[22:45] <XuMuK> Hiob: something like that? http://goo.gl/gSVvX
[22:46] <tlhonmey> NyLes: I would be highly surprised if that one wasn't included in Ubuntu...
[22:46] <NyLes> aplay -l results with no soundcard found.. while lspci displays my soundcard
[22:46] <Hiob> yes
[22:46] <Qactis> aloha I have a question
[22:46] <Qactis> if anyone can help
[22:46] <L3top> phpn00b: the animated screen during startup? Or another screen?
[22:46] <CFHowlett> Qactis   ask away
[22:47] <XuMuK> Hiob: you can configure it in compiz or in ubuntu-tweak
[22:47] <Admin_User> Am going to be installing 11.10 on my virtual machine so if I want to install the Guest OS Drivers How should I do it first.
[22:47] <muzone> hello! how'd you guys wget all of http://www.awesometapes.com/ and http://moroccantapestash.blogspot.com/ into an organized collection? wget -mk -w 3 http://awesometapes.com oughta work right? but no!
[22:47] <Qactis> I am dualbooting ubuntu and xp. more recently have been seeing http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16496280/Photos/ScreenShots/Screenshot91.png this in my network connections
[22:47] <Admin_User> Am going to be installing 11.10 on my virtual machine so if I want to install the Guest OS Drivers How should I do it first.
[22:47] <Canadian1296> Admin_User: You have to install the OS first
[22:47] <NyLes> tlhonmey: but i think it isn't or the alsa in ubuntu is so up-to-date xD
[22:47] <Qactis> it's sending and receiving the majority of packets and raping my internet connection in windows
[22:47] <chipotle> does ubuntu server allow for a gui?
[22:47] <CFHowlett> Admin_User   how to is in the virtual box help menu
[22:47] <CFHowlett> chipotle   yes, you have to install one though
[22:48] <Admin_User> thank you
[22:48] <tlhonmey> NyLes: Ok, well linux drivers are generally kernel modules.  It will probably work to get the source for the kernel module that puppy linux is using to run the card, compile, and install it on your system.
[22:48] <bLiNdRaGe> i just upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 on my server. when i ssh in i still get: Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS Welcome to Ubuntu!
[22:48] <bLiNdRaGe> /etc/issue shows 10.10
[22:48] <tlhonmey> NyLes: Where they keep the source and how to tell which one you need is more a question for the Puppy people.
[22:48] <bLiNdRaGe> what generates the login message?
[22:48] <NyLes> tlhonmey: can i just recompile it using the puppy linux live cd?
[22:48] <bLiNdRaGe> nevermind, /etc/motd
[22:49] <tlhonmey> NyLes: Most of the sound issues I've had with Ubuntu though have been ALSA related, not driver related though...  Run a web search on your card and see if anyone else has solved the problem in an easier manner.
[22:49] <tlhonmey> NyLes: Puppy linux live cds don't include source.
[22:49] <orbisvicis> is there some way to check that dependencies are met for a .deb I downloaded *without* installing ??
[22:49] <NyLes> tlhonmey: thanks so much..
[22:49] <StevenX> Hello. If I already have an SSH server running on my home computer, do I need an FTP server as well? I am using WinSCP to connect to my server and it seems to work as an FTP server as well. Am I missing something?
[22:49] <Qactis> anyway my question was whether that is a problem related to Ubuntu or is it winblows being a faggot
[22:50] <Canadian1296> orbisvicis: Yes but I cant remember how
[22:50] <martian> StevenX: No, sftp works via ssh alone
[22:50] <Canadian1296> Qactis: Language
[22:50] <tlhonmey> NyLes: I think there is a channel here for Puppy, they might be able to help you find out which module you need.
[22:50] <muzone> wget -m -A mp3 http://awesometapes.com oughta work right? but no!
[22:50] <orbisvicis> is it --simulate
[22:50] <Wiz_KeeD> i found an installed pieace of software with this command: dpkg -l | grep 'openerp' any chance i can locate the filesystem or be able to place an icon in the gui?
[22:51] <orbisvicis> I've tried it but I'm not sure its checked the dependencies because it doesn print "reading the database.." and its really fast
[22:51] <orbisvicis> Canadian1296: is it --simulate
[22:51] <StevenX> martian, thank you.
[22:51] <orbisvicis> dpkg --simulate
[22:51] <NyLes> tlhonmey: there is? ok i'll look for it..
[22:51] <Wiz_KeeD> what is that?
[22:51] <tlhonmey> NyLes: If not, check their forums.  They're pretty helpful.
[22:51] <om26er> Qactis, http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/8232-43-where-linux-connection-from
[22:51] <Canadian1296> orbisvicis: That rings a bell, try dpkg --help and it should tell you what simulate does.
[22:52] <StevenX> My work computer is rejecting most outbound connections, so I wanted to run my ssh server on port 80, since that would be open. However, I am still not able to connect to my home server through ssh evenwhen it is listening on port 80. Am I doing something wrong? It seems that port 80 should allow my connection through.
[22:52] <tlhonmey> Qactis: That entry is Windows detecting the Linux machine as a router.  If the network is still working, feel free to ignore it.
[22:52] <Canadian1296> StevenX: Are you firewalled?
[22:52] <L3top> --simulate or --dry-run should work
[22:53] <Qactis> no it's destroying the windows network
[22:53] <tlhonmey> StevenX: ssh uses SSL.  Put it on port 443 instead of 80 and the firewall won't be able to tell the difference between it and a connection to an ssl site.
[22:53] <cheapie> Is there a way to install Debian over Ubuntu without losing all my documents?
[22:53] <StevenX> Canadian1296, yes, both my home server and home computer are on firewall.
[22:53] <StevenX> tlhonmey, I will do that, thank you.
[22:53] <bLiNdRaGe> is runuser avail on ubuntu or is that selinux
[22:53] <zykotick9> cheapie: no
[22:53] <Hiob> cheapie: save your /home and your config files
[22:53] <Qactis> lol can't even load the link
[22:53] <CFHowlett> cheapie   if you /home is in a separate partition, maybe
[22:53] <Qactis> because internet
[22:54] <tlhonmey> Qactis: Windows is probably trying to route its traffic through Linux then...  I'm not quite sure how to fix that unfortunately...
[22:54] <Canadian1296> cheapie: My suggestion is back them up to an external drive before installing
[22:54] <Qactis> neither am I
[22:54] <cheapie> CFHowlett & Canadian1296: Thanks! I'll try that.
[22:54] <tlhonmey> Qactis: Firewall your linux install so it won't let Windows talk to it might do it.
[22:55] <Qactis> let's try that
[22:55] <tlhonmey> Qactis: And make sure you're not running a DHCP server on the linux machine.
[22:55] <HonestFlames> Ubuntu for Android information is a little thin on the ground. I am directed here for further discussion?!
[22:56] <Qactis> windows uses a usb adapter since the drivers only work for windows, and linux is using a pci wireless adapter since linux picks it up and I can't find its drivers in windows
[22:56] <Qactis> I think that's what the problem is
[22:56] <CFHowlett> HonestFlames   try #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:56] <NyLes> how can i know the alsas version?
[22:57] <bazhang> HonestFlames, also #ubuntu-phone
[22:58] <tlhonmey> Qactis: The part that doesn't make sense is why Windows even knows Linux exists when they're not running at the same time...
[22:59] <HonestFlames> Thanks, guys.
[22:59] <Graham1> Hi, I am interesting in Ubuntu for Android and well also helping it in development.
[22:59] <Canadian1296> I am hosting a friends site for him on my server. How can I allow him to log in and edit his files without letting him touch the rest of the server? Like FTP only more secure.
[22:59] <CFHowlett> Graham1   try #ubuntu-phone
[22:59] <ikonia> Canadian1296: ssh / scp
[22:59] <chalcedony> what other ways are there to stop a process besides kill ? kill variations are not working - in 11.04?
[22:59] <Graham1> Ah Thanks. The response email didn't tell me about that channel.
[23:00] <chalcedony> Graham1, good luck
[23:00] <tlhonmey> chalcedony: kill sends a signal.  The default is term, which asks it to quit nicely.  If that doesn't work, -9 is kill, which will yank the rug out from under it.
[23:00] <Canadian1296> ikonia: Yes, but he doesn't know how to use either. Is there a web based interface I can let him log in with to do it?
[23:00] <ikonia> Canadian1296: I wouldn't advise that as you wanted secure
[23:00] <chalcedony> tlhonmey, that's what i thought. it's not working
[23:00] <ikonia> Canadian1296: most content managed based systems will allow it though
[23:01] <StevenX> tlhonmey, I changed the server to port 443 but still didn't go through.
[23:01] <Canadian1296> ikonia: Okay what about sftp? I don't know how to set it up but im sure I could figure it out.
[23:01] <ikonia> Canadian1296: do it then
[23:01] <Canadian1296> ikonia: Would it let him use an FTP client to modify the files?
[23:01] <Afzal> is nodev and nosuid advisable for / in fstab? (how about for /home)?
[23:01] <ikonia> Canadian1296: no, it would allow him to use an sftp client
[23:01] <chipotle> does ubuntu support afp?
[23:02] <Afzal> both are ext4
[23:02] <tlhonmey> StevenX: can you get to https://duckduckgo.com/ from your work machine?
[23:02] <Canadian1296> ikonia: Obviously, but GUI rather than CLI correct?
[23:02] <ikonia> Canadian1296: depends on the client
[23:02] <Hiob> has somebody a macbook and get click & drag working?
[23:02] <ikonia> Canadian1296: if you have an sftp gui client, sure
[23:03] <tlhonmey> Canadian1296: filezilla supports sftp.
[23:03] <Canadian1296> ikonia tlhonmey: thanks
[23:04] <muzone> check this out http://soundcloud.com/haukeland
[23:04] <NyLes> tlhonmey: do you think it has something to do with the alsa version?
[23:04] <muzone> public service radio for haukeland university hospital, norway
[23:05] <bazhang> muzone, why paste that here
[23:05] <StevenX> tlhonmey, yes, I can connect to that website from work.
[23:06] <yakc> i looked from gconf-editor and it says "This key as no schema" in compiz-1/screen0/options
[23:06] <tlhonmey> NyLes: That is the most common cause of sound issues I
[23:06] <tlhonmey> 've found.
[23:06] <yakc> that's why my compiz shortcuts is not working?
[23:06] <NyLes> tlhonmey: thanks..
[23:06] <tlhonmey> StevenX: Ok, so the work firewall isn't blocking outbound ssl, it's got to be somewhere else.
[23:06] <recon_tv> anyone able to tell me how to rip a multi cd title http://paste.ubuntu.com/854638/ , cause i'm about to give up
[23:07] <tlhonmey> NyLes: That's a fairly common card, you should probably check the Ubuntu forums if you haven't already, there may be a solution posted.
[23:07] <NyLes> tlhonmey: ok thanks..
[23:07] <CFHowlett> recon_tv   soundjuicer was dropped from ubuntu repos for a reason.  consider brasero.
[23:08] <tlhonmey> StevenX: can you connect to your home machine from somewhere other than work?
[23:08] <CFHowlett> recon_tv   actually not braser ... wait 1
[23:08] <StevenX> tlhonmey, Yes. I used my cell phone as a router so that I could be outside the server's LAN and was able to connect.
[23:08] <vlt> Hello. I installed Ubuntu Oneiric, and now everytime my audio volume is set to 100 % when I log in, no matter what I select in lightdm’s login screen. Any idea how to fix this?
[23:09] <CFHowlett> recon_tv   see software center search for cd ripper
[23:09] <scottj> with xmodmap is there a way to bind a single key to shift-insert?
[23:10] <tlhonmey> StevenX: hmmm...  Perhaps the work firewall filters based on IP or DNS name or something...
[23:11] <tlhonmey> StevenX:  Can you ssh to other places from work?
[23:12] <chipotle> what is the default kernel in ubuntu 11.1x?
[23:12] <StevenX> tlhonmey, I havent tried. I don't have any other ssh server to connect to.
[23:12] <Pikkachu> chipotle: 3
[23:12] <L3top> vlt I could give you a hack... but... don't know the proper way to address it.
[23:12] <bazhang> !info linux | chipotle
[23:12] <StevenX> tlhonmey, I do use a host name from "*.myftp.org"
[23:12] <SmashingX> hello guys when I type in my browser localhost I get it works! but I wonder where that page is allocated so I could install more pages in that directory does anybody know?
[23:12] <StevenX> maybe they can block the word FTP?
[23:13] <orlok> I have made a copy of /bin/bash, and i'm trying to make it suid root, but i'm failing. chown /bin/dodgybash root.root;chmod 4755 /bin/dodgybash should do it i thought/
[23:13] <oooaaaooo> hi guys, is it possible to run ubuntu within ubuntu?
[23:13] <ikonia> oooaaaooo: what ?
[23:13] <bazhang> oooaaaooo, with vbox if you must
[23:13] <Hiob> yes chroot or in a virtual maschine
[23:13] <histo> oooaaaooo: yes
[23:13] <Canadian1296> oooaaaooo: In virtualbox yes
[23:14] <oooaaaooo> what options do i have without virtual box
[23:14] <Canadian1296> Chroot
[23:15] <L3top> you can debootstrap and chroot
[23:15] <zykotick9> oooaaaooo: kvm is an alternative to vbox, but it's a lot more complicated to use (and requires your CPU to support virtualization)
[23:15] <L3top> oooaaaooo:
[23:15] <recon_tv> great  , so the answer is to install different cd rippers till i find one that works
[23:15] <zykotick9> recon_tv: if you're comfortable in command line, abcde is amazing
[23:16] <oooaaaooo> ok is there a way to have multiple IP addresses associated with one machine other than virtualbox?
[23:16] <recon_tv> well, asunder not ver good so far, i try abcde zykotick9
[23:16] <L3top> multiple nics
[23:17] <L3top> virtual nics... but... I am not sure how effective they will be depending on what you want them for.
[23:17] <L3top> eth0:1 etc
[23:17] <qwebirc16662> is there any guidelines for wt library 2011 on ubuntu?
[23:18] <Talish> Hey all
[23:18] <Admin_User> I just got done download the ubuntu 11.10 amd64 going to install it on virtual box who is going to cher me on give me Ubuntu
[23:19] <oooaaaooo> L3top: i am using a device simulator that has an IP address to test an application over my network; problem is I need to test 2 devices at the same time over the network and I only have one test machine
[23:19] <patzo><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:19] <L3top> use 2 nics
[23:19] <orlok> oooaaaooo: IP alias?
[23:19] <vlt> L3top: What would you do to fix the audio volume setting?
[23:20] <oooaaaooo> orlok: ill look it up
[23:20] <L3top> that is a 7 dollar solution... or masquerading... but... if you are trying to do dev work on multiple devices... simultaniously... I would use two nics.
[23:20] <oooaaaooo> virtual nics and IP aliases
[23:20] <orlok> How do i create a shell script that executes as root regardless of who runs it?
[23:20] <SmashingX> hello guys when I type in my browser localhost I get it works! but I wonder where that page is allocated so I could install more pages in that directory does anybody know?
[23:20] <recon_tv> well, seems that ubuntu community don't use multi track cd's any more
[23:21] <recon_tv> or multi cd titles i mean
[23:21] <L3top> vlt: edit /etc/init.d/alsa-mixer-save and enter amixer set Master 50%     before the exit 0.
[23:21] <L3top> but that is a total hack.
[23:21] <L3top> or whatever % you want it at
[23:21] <oooaaaooo> L3top: its more portability than cost. It is running on my netbook so i can move around easily
[23:21] <crf> hi I am using ubuntu Natty. If I install glib-2.31 the network location menu entry in places doesn't work
[23:21] <L3top> ah...
[23:22] <L3top> virtual nics and masquerade... but there is a small learning curve.
[23:22] <L3top> I would go buy a usb nic
[23:22] <L3top> lol
[23:22] <glen_3b> SmashingX: Have you checked /var/www?
[23:23] <SmashingX> that's what Im doing thanks!
[23:23] <vlt> L3top: The “master” volume in alsamixer doesn’t seem to affect the actual speaker volume controlled in the upper right volume icon.
[23:24] <glen_3b> SmashingX: If not there, try the htdocs subdirectory of your apache installation dir.
[23:24] <orlok> Hmm. I cant seem to make a suid root copy of bash
[23:24] <vlt> L3top: None of the alsamixer sliders moves when I change the icon’s volume.
[23:25] <L3top> how are you connecting to the sound source?
[23:25] <SmashingX> glen_3b: I wonder what's wrong because Im installign Drupal but I can't see it from localhost
[23:25] <gkaklas> orlok, i don't think it is possible unless you add each user in /etc/sudoers file. The script will request the user's password when it runs.
[23:25] <SmashingX> I see the it works! page but I can't see the drupal pages
[23:25] <oj199032> hello
[23:26] <vlt> L3top: The source is pulseaudio, right?
[23:26] <orlok> gkaklas: it should be quite easily, by setting the sticky bit and ownership to root
[23:26] <orlok> gkaklas: completely bypassing sudo
[23:26] <L3top> vlt: Meaning is it an analog cable, hdmi, d
[23:26] <oj199032> hell can anyone one tell me why ubuntu 11.10 64bit hangs on install
[23:27] <cmex> hallo!!!
[23:27] <glen_3b> SmashingX: you've copied the drupal files to wherever your webpages are (htdocs or /var/www)?
[23:27] <tlhonmey> orlok: Is there a particular reason you're wanting to bypass security in that manner?  There might well be a better solution...
[23:27] <SmashingX> yeah, I will find out though, do you know how can I acces phpmyadmin though?
[23:27] <orlok> tlhonmey: yes, there is - purely to test whether the security auditing software i have installed will pick it up.
[23:27] <cmex> come funziona?
[23:28] <glen_3b> SmashingX: generally localhost/phpmyadmin
[23:28] <SmashingX> ok
[23:28] <oj199032> hmmm
[23:28] <SmashingX> Not Found :(
[23:28] <L3top> by sound source I mean the device physically producing audio (desktop speakers, tv, amp)
[23:28] <SmashingX> probably it's not installed
[23:29] <chipotle> hi, can someone recommend a ripping application that can take mts streams (1080p, HD Audio content) and let me make a nice rip of it into mkv file or similar?
[23:29] <phpn00b> I managed to get Ubutnu boots in less than 10 seconds :-)
[23:29] <glen_3b> SmashingX: oh... :( try copying the phpmyadmin directory to /var/www or htdocs and trying again
[23:30] <SmashingX> glen_3b: Ok let me try thanks!
[23:30] <orlok> tlhonmey: Its funny, it was originally intended to be a 30 second test, bow i'm trying to figure out whats causing something i was sure was tricial to do to not work
[23:30] <vlt> L3top: Aah, ok. The speakers are connected to the IEC958 (S/PDIF) output.
[23:30] <glen_3b> SmashingX: Always glad to help fellow ubuntu users!
[23:30] <oj199032> glen
[23:30] <L3top> there is no volume control for digital sound
[23:30] <L3top> it is either on or off
[23:31] <cmex> there is something there!
[23:31] <L3top> the sound source controls volume
[23:31] <vlt> L3top: The slider in the audio icon works fine.
[23:31] <oj199032> someone for the the love of god help me install this thingg
[23:31] <SmashingX> glen_3b: thanks very kind person, I always have trouble hehe everyday I come up with a question
[23:31] <SmashingX> hehe
[23:31] <vlt> L3top: I just always have to reduce the volume from 100 % after lgging in.
[23:31] <glen_3b> SmashingX: :) I'm always glad to help!
[23:32] <cmex> salutos
[23:32] <chipotle> phpn00b: which ssd?
[23:33] <tlhonmey> orlok: I see.  Good test.
[23:33] <gkaklas> orlok, setting the sticky bit allows a user to execute a script as the current user, not the root itself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sticky_bit#Usage. I haven't tried it, did it work for you?
[23:33] <L3top> afk
[23:34] <orlok> gkaklas: I have set perms to 4755, it should execute as the owner.
[23:34] <orlok> gkaklas: i also noticed nosuid on the / filesystem
[23:34] <orlok> but thats not it
[23:34] <orlok> the copy of bash has the same permissions as su now heh
[23:36] <d4rkgazio> Hi
[23:36] <d4rkgazio> How do i run a program from the terminal i forgot how to :P
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> d4rkgazio: type its name
[23:37] <d4rkgazio> yeah
[23:37] <d4rkgazio> the program is start.sh
[23:37] <d4rkgazio> i need to run it through putty on shh server
[23:37] <tlhonmey> d4rkgazio: The current directory isn't on the path by default on linux.  specify it with ./
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> d4rkgazio: then ensure it's marked executable and run it. If it is in the pwd then you will need to run: ./start.sh
[23:38] <kismet> so I don't need 64-bit Ubuntu to use all 8 GB of my RAM?
[23:38] <tlhonmey> kismet: no, just pae.
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> kismet: technically you can use PAE and access 64Gb in 32bit
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> kismet: however each process will be limited to 3.2Gb maximmum RAM
[23:39] <kismet> Is there another reason to use 64-bit Ubuntu? A little extra processor power with 64-bit apps?
[23:39] <newmar> how can i use lpr * to print without got problems with de docs
[23:39] <zykotick9> kismet: PAE is a "hack" that slows your system down by a few percent all the time
[23:39] <tlhonmey> kismet: on heavy processing jobs I notice a 30-50% speed boost with 64 bit.
[23:39] <zykotick9> kismet: media encoding is generally faster on 64bit
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> kismet: heavy processor usage data transfoms, like audio and video encoding benefit from 64bit
[23:40] <gkaklas> orlok, didn't know about suid... Isn't that kinda dangerous?
[23:40] <zykotick9> gkaklas: yes
[23:40] <orlok> gkaklas: Yes.. thats the point!
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> kismet: if you have a 64bit CPU and more than 3Gb RAM then go 64bit :)
[23:40] <pedro_> hi
[23:40] <tlhonmey> gkaklas: he's testing his security auditing system.
[23:40] <orlok> Ok. How the hell is su working.
[23:40] <d4rkgazio> how do i make a super users password?
[23:41] <d4rkgazio> i forgot how :\
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> orlok: the root account is disabled
[23:41] <orlok> if / is mounted nosuid, how does su escelate me to root
[23:41] <zykotick9> !noroot | d4rkgazio
[23:41] <kismet> ActionParsnip, tlhonmey,  zykotick9  thanks for the info! Look out 64-bit, here I come
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> orlok: use:  sudo -i    instead
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> orlok: if you add a username after su then you will need that users password to switch to that use
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> r
[23:42] <orlok> ActionParsnip: I'm not using su.
[23:42] <motherbrain> curious does anybody know who the major companies are for networking devices/software. I know cisco but is their any other major competitors ?
[23:42] <tlhonmey> zykotick9: PAE doesn't make memory access any slower than it is on a 64 bit machine.
[23:42] <oj199032> hello
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> orlok: orlok> Ok. How the hell is su working.
[23:42] <orlok> ActionParsnip: I'm looking to execute a shell using the suid bit set so i can test whether the package ossec actually picks it up as being installed.
[23:42] <keyvin> motherbrain - adtran has some good offerings
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> orlok: looks like it..
[23:42] <motherbrain> I am looking to know the breakdown of the internet is it like 75% cisco or what
[23:42] <zykotick9> tlhonmey: the overhead of PAE is what causes the few % slowdown
[23:42] <keyvin> oh nm
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> motherbrain: I'd ask in ##networking
[23:43] <motherbrain> because I have to say every major network I have seen is cisco or use mostly cisco based machines
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> motherbrain: this is ubuntu support
[23:43] <motherbrain> Ok I will try their
[23:43] <orlok> ActionParsnip: I mean, specifically, if / is mounted nosuid, and a suid root copy of bash fails to execute as root, how can a suid copy of su escalate me to root
[23:43] <tlhonmey> zykotick9: yes, and that overhead is the same on 64-bit.  The only difference is that you don't get the speed boost from being 64 bit.
[23:44] <zykotick9> tlhonmey: ahhh, no.
[23:44] <Arthur__> hello?
[23:44] <Pikkachu> how to disable guest account in oneiric? it doesn't seem to have a button for that in user management ui
[23:45] <newmar> anyone can help me to use lpr comand
[23:45] <Arthur__> i am having issues installing ubuntu anyone it wont run the installer
[23:45] <newmar> when i try to print de docs .jpg dont print correctly
[23:46] <oj199032> arthur
[23:46] <ariel`> can anybody tell me which network manager package that doesnt net internet access
[23:46] <Arthur__> yes?
[23:46] <oj199032> me too
[23:46] <Arthur__> it seems to acknowledge the cd but wont go anyfurther
[23:47] <oj199032> does to stop spinning the cd
[23:47] <Aleksandar|off> ima li ovde neko iz Srbije ?
[23:47] <oj199032> comepletly
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Pikkachu: you can dissable it in lightdm.conf
[23:47] <oj199032> and freeze
[23:47] <Arthur__> i cannot hear any spinning
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> orlok: not sure dude, not thought of that tbh
[23:48] <kismet> Arthur__: and nothing else boots up?
[23:48] <Arthur__> no it has a line about the copyright and that is it
[23:48] <tlhonmey> Arthur__: how old is this machine?
[23:48] <Aleksandar|off> ae fuck you,good night
[23:48] <Aleksandar|off> jjebite se
[23:48] <Arthur__> my laptop is anbout a year old
[23:49] <Aleksandar|off> nista vas ne razumem
[23:49] <kc4zvw_> I'm now using the classic gnome desktop since last login ... how to make permenent on 11.10?
[23:50] <Arthur__> could it be an issue with compatability?
[23:50] <gkaklas> newmar, did you try the -l switch?
[23:50] <Afzal> is nodev and nosuid advisable for / in fstab? (how about for /home)? (both are ext4)
[23:51] <orlok> Afzal: I was just trying to figure out how the hell things were working with nosuid
[23:51] <orlok> Afzal: How does su work.
[23:51] <sturd> I've just installed a patched GTK+ package from source in order to fix a crash, and, having restarted my machine, the GTK theme doesn't load.  Have I missed something in the config somewhere?
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> kc4zvw_: there is a guide on omgubuntu how to hack the OS to look like Gnome2, I suggest you just install xfce4 and use XFCE session, it feels and smells a lot like Gnome2
[23:51] <Afzal> orlok, what do you mean? just run sudo su
[23:51] <Jordan_U> Andy80: Definitely not. nosuid on / will break sudo, su, and any other utility that needs to be setuid root.
[23:51] <tlhonmey> Arthur__: hmmm...  Some bios chips don't like the bootloader on the installer...  But it's mostly older ones.
[23:51] <orlok> Afzal: i dont mean "how do i use it" i mean, how does it work.
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> Afzal: sudo -i   is more advised.
[23:51] <Afzal> o.O Jordan_U thanks lol :)
[23:52] <Jordan_U> Afzal: You're welcome.
[23:52] <oj199032> i got it to work
[23:52] <Afzal> ActionParsnip, note taken
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> orlok: your session and environment variables become that of the user you su to
[23:52] <tlhonmey> Arthur__: Might also be a damaged instaler CD.
[23:52] <oj199032> arthur
[23:52] <Arthur__> i know my i redownloaded it like three times
[23:52] <Jordan_U> Arthur__: Did you check the md5sum of the CD?
[23:52] <newmar> gkaklas, whats means -l?
[23:52] <Arthur__> no
[23:52] <Jordan_U> !md5 | Arthur__
[23:52] <oj199032> try
[23:52] <oj199032> running
[23:53] <oj199032> f6
[23:53] <orlok> Afzal: if / is mounted nosuid, and su is suit.. how does su work
[23:53] <Afzal> Jordan_U, does a lock emblem show up for you in / for all folders in nautilus? It's bugging me even though the permissions/owner are correct
[23:53] <oj199032> nomodest
[23:53] <bjrohan> I am having issues with connecting 2 Ubuntu computers on my home network. I have Samba on both machines, the machines can see each other (I can remote desktop share) but I can not see one computer file system from the other via mautilus, any suggestions?
[23:53] <Afzal> orlok, never played with partition permissions...so I have no idea
[23:53] <Jordan_U> Afzal: No.
[23:54] <tlhonmey> bjolders: start by seeing if you can ping one machine from the other.
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> bjrohan: if you run:  smbtree    do you see the shares you setup?
[23:54] <Arthur__> i am about to do that is there anyway to test the bios because this is a limited run laptop i think they only sold it on black friday and it was dumb cheap
[23:54] <Afzal> Jordan_U, any clue where I should look? fstab looks fine (noatime, errors=remount-ro). It's driving me nuts :/
[23:54] <Jordan_U> Afzal: No I don't. Sorry.
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> bjrohan: if the systems can desktop share then the 2 systems are connected to the network
[23:54] <Afzal> Jordan_U, alright np
[23:55] <gkaklas> newmar, the manpage says "Specifies that the print file is already formatted for the  destination and should be sent without filtering." (usage: "lpr -l file")
[23:55] <Jordan_U> Arthur__: Can you boot from any other CD? Can you boot from a USB drive?
[23:55] <tlhonmey> Arthur__: That might well be your problem...  Will it boot from a USB?  That might be the easy workaround.
[23:55] <bjrohan> ActionParsnip could you remind me how I copy and paste on here to show you what I see vis smbtree
[23:55] <Arthur__> i would have to find a flash drive
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> paste | bjolders
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[23:56] <Arthur__> but would it not be the same file on a cd or flash?
[23:56] <Roasted> Question - I set my resolution to something my TV hates. It just responded with "no input". Once I log in I lose the interface. What can I do?
[23:56] <tlhonmey> Arthur__: barring that, it nearly always works to stick the drive in a different machine to install, and then put it back in the original.
[23:56] <newmar> gkaklas, thanks
[23:57] <Arthur__> stick the hard drive in another machine?
[23:57] <bjrohan> ActionParsnip - Here is what I get when I enter smbtree \\BROHAN-DESKTOP is the desktop I am trying to connect to, BJROHAN-MM061 is the laptop I am currently on. http://paste.ubuntu.com/854741/
[23:57] <tlhonmey> Arthur__: yep.  It's my usual trick of last resort when I can't get the installer to boot.
[23:58] <bjrohan> When I ran smbtree, BROHAN-DESKTOP entry appeared quickly, my laptop entry took about 30 seconds. Odd since I am on my laptop @ ActionParsnips
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> bjrohan: did you setup shares on the desktop? What OS is the desktop running?
[23:58] <Arthur__> i will have to learn that i am teaching myself to do this
[23:58] <tlhonmey> Arthur__: Don't install restricted drivers or anything until you put the drive back in the original machine though, or you can break things horribly and have to start over.
[23:58] <bjrohan> I had set up shares on the desktop, it is running Ubuntu 11.10
[23:59] <Arthur__> last time i took a laptop apart it broke the motherboard
[23:59] <_Marcus> Hello.
[23:59] <bjrohan> From the desktop I can try to access the laptop in nautilus, when I go to browse network BJROHAN-MM061 shows up, but I can not access it
[23:59] <tlhonmey> Arthur__: removing the drive is usually just an access panel.
[23:59] <Afzal> Arthur__, heh, I took my laptop apart to put on some paste on the GPU...had to take EVERYTHING apart


[13:57]  * ddstreet getting coffee but present o/
[14:03] <doko> o/
[14:06] <sarnold> hello
[14:06] <ddstreet> o/
[14:06] <jamespage> o/
[14:07] <doko> cpaelzer, didrocks: ping
[14:07] <didrocks> hey
[14:07] <doko> any volunteer to run the meeting?
[14:09] <doko> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status
[14:09] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Mar 17 14:09:32 2020 UTC.  The chair is doko. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[14:09] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[14:09] <doko> #topic Review of previous action items
[14:11] <doko> cpaelzer wanted to review the wiki pages, I assume we delay that to next week
[14:12]  * didrocks has some notes to discuss on the wiki pages, but yeah, let’s wait for him
[14:12] <doko> I didn't do https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ec2-instance-connect/+bug/1835114/comments/5
[14:12] <doko> anything else?
[14:12]  * didrocks has done alsa-*, all good
[14:13] <doko> #topic New MIRs
[14:13] <doko> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[14:15] <doko> ahasenack closed wrongly https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-maxminddb/+bug/1861101
[14:16] <doko> I'll chat with andreas
[14:16] <doko> ddstreet, didrocks: could one of yout do 1864667?
[14:17] <ddstreet> i can take that one
[14:17] <doko> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions
[14:17] <doko> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[14:18] <didrocks> nothing new if I’m correct?
[14:19] <doko> sarnold: could you ask raharper about 1835114?
[14:19] <doko> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
[14:19] <sarnold> doko: yeah
[14:19] <sarnold> why's pcp still in that long list?
[14:20] <sarnold> I thought we finished that up before 18.04
[14:20] <doko> jamespage: designate pulls in two new rdeps
[14:20] <doko> apport/terminator is a bug?
[14:21] <doko> linitan/libdevel-size-perl remains. foundations
[14:24] <doko> anything else?
[14:24] <jamespage> doko: yeah i noted that this morning whilst tidying up a few other bits
[14:24] <jamespage> the masakara -> sqlalchemy-utils dep has now been removed (it was surplus - dropped upstream as well)
[14:24] <jamespage> which should clear masakari-* and python-tabulate for promotion
[14:25] <doko> ok, I'll wait until the mismatch page is updated
[14:25] <doko> closing?
[14:26] <didrocks> yeah, nothing else for me
[14:26] <sarnold> some of the apport binary packages depend upon x-terminal-emulator -- I wonder if that's where terminator comes from?
[14:26] <jamespage> I'll deal with that designate extra new deps thing - its entirely optional
[14:26] <jamespage> so no new MIR needed there
[14:26] <jamespage> coreycb: ^^
[14:27] <coreycb> jamespage: yes edgegrid is optional, thanks
[14:28] <doko> sarnold: ok, so add a real package as the first alternative, one for gtk, one for kde
[14:30] <sarnold> I wonder why it's just showing up now; precise appears to be the last release without the x-terminal-emulator dependency
[14:32] <doko> maybe another package providing that one was demoted?
[14:34] <doko> anyway, closing
[14:34] <sarnold> thanks doko, all
[14:34] <doko> #endmeeting
[14:34] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Mar 17 14:34:49 2020 UTC.
[14:34] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-03-17-14.09.moin.txt
[14:35] <didrocks> thx
[14:47] <cpaelzer> doko: sorry to be late had private  schedules moved around du to the virus
[14:47] <cpaelzer> and yes we can review the web page next week as well


[07:07] <zangiv> hi
[07:07] <zangiv> any marketer here
[07:09] <Burgundavia> yep
[06:57] <charleseddy> anyone know melissa draper or marcos larios?
[07:36] <jenda> elkbuntu: you're popular ;)
[07:37] <elkbuntu> ... i didnt notice that... i wonder what he wanted
[07:37] <elkbuntu> and who the other person is
[07:38] <jenda> no clue
[08:41] <beuno_> hey jenda
[08:41] <jenda> beuno_: yo
[08:41] <beuno_> how are you?
[08:41] <jenda> beuno_: I chickened out of the ticket, because I have no idea if we'll be going or not... waiting for juliux' word.
[08:41] <jenda> Other than that, I'm great :)
[08:42] <jenda> Just made another 7-8 kg of sour cherry jam this morning, which makes a total of 15 ;)
[08:42] <beuno_> aaah, right, so what would the plan be?
[08:42] <jenda> Makes this trip outta town worthwile.
[08:42] <jenda> beuno_: weeelll
[08:42] <beuno_> 15kg of jam????
[08:42] <jenda> yeap :) Our tree has born fruit again after 6 years, we couldn't just let it rot.
[08:44] <jenda> beuno_: We could go to this gigantic party of my old school. Or - I'll go there at least for a while, and I'll take you with me if you like :)
[08:45] <beuno_> yay!
[08:45] <beuno_> when?
[08:46] <jenda> beuno_: the 28th
[08:46] <jenda> It's an outdoor party
[08:47] <beuno_> jenda: I like it!   you have exams until the 27th, right?
[08:47] <jenda> it's always been called the 'water party' because it was done around a pool - but they closed the pool down... we moved it to a field and called it the 'flower party' and now it's the 'fire party' :D
[08:48] <jenda> (although 'water party' is still the official name)
[08:48] <jenda> beuno_: more like, I have one more exam, on the 27th
[08:48] <beuno_> right, in the afternoon
[08:48] <jenda> yep
[08:48] <jenda> 16:00
[08:49] <jenda> won't take longer than 90 minutes.
[08:49] <beuno_> good good, I'll get there the 27th late or the 28th then
[08:50] <jenda> ok, cool
[08:50] <beuno> (brb)
[08:50] <jenda> beuno: if you come late 27th, I won't have to skip out on the post-exam pub... ;)
[08:50] <jenda> which means you'll be looking for a small guy with glasses who can't walk straight.
[08:51] <jenda> (depending on how late)
[08:52] <beuno> hahahaha
[08:53] <beuno> where a name tag!
[08:55] <jenda> beuno: or an Ubuntu shirt? ;)
[09:05] <beuno> right, probably not too many drunken ubunteros around
[09:15] <jenda> :D
[10:08] <beuno> Burgundavia: evening
[10:09] <beuno> who's feeling like pitching into UWN today?
[10:09] <beuno> it nneds a lot of work
[10:10] <beuno> and mark's around here, so he can poke me if we don't get it out   :/
[10:40] <Burgundavia> beuno: I will work on it later, going out with the gf first
[10:41] <beuno> Burgundavia,  great  :D   I just added the interview and will try to work on it a bit more
[10:41] <Burgundavia> sounds good


[05:58] <lenards> hello
[06:31] <dholbach> good morning
[13:41]  * robilad wonders why launchpad insists on "This account cannot be used."
[15:50] <persia> robilad: Did you change your email address in LP recently?
[15:50] <robilad> yeah, got bitten by that bug
[15:51] <persia> robilad: I understand they're chasing it due to the vast number of affected people, but it's annoying until then :(
[15:51] <robilad> yeah, so no mails to other java teams from me today about the meetup tomorrow. ;)
[15:51] <persia> You need LP to send the email?
[15:52] <persia> Do you maybe need information that I could research on LP for you?
[15:54] <robilad> no worries, I'll poke robogeek about doing it, he sent me a list of other potential teams that may be interested
[16:00]  * man-di wonders about what meeting robilad is talking about...
[16:00] <persia> man-di: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaTeam/Meeting
[16:42] <paddax> hi
[16:43] <robilad> man-di: do join in, if you have time
[16:43] <man-di> I'm alwasys in that channel but its bad timing for me
[16:44] <robilad> ah, darn
[16:46] <persia> man-di: When are good times for you?  One of the agenda items is setting a regular meeting time, and you're one of the people for whom the meeting time ought be convenient.
[16:46] <man-di> currently hard to say
[16:51]  * man-di heading home
[18:14] <man-di> back online
[21:17] <Kidfork> How can i allocate RAM to java
[21:17] <robilad> -Xmx
[21:18] <Kidfork> - Xmx?
[21:20] <slytherin> Kidfork: java -Xms128M -Xmx512M
[21:21] <Kidfork> slytherin: Im not quite understanding what your says, -xmx512m is a command?
[21:22] <slytherin> Kidfork: it is an argument you need to give while running java command.
[21:23] <Kidfork> slytherin: Im kind of new to ubuntu could you tell me step-by-step, would be largely apreciated
[21:23] <slytherin> Kidfork: what are you trying to exactly?
[21:25] <Kidfork> slytherin: Im trying to give more RAM to java, because i play RuneScape which is constently lagging even though i meet reccomended requirments
[21:26] <slytherin> Kidfork: have you selected high quality version?
[21:26] <Kidfork> slytherin: i have not, how can i go about doing this
[21:27] <slytherin> Kidfork: I am sorry, but not only this is off topic for this channel but also I am busy with something else. You should try asking on #ubuntu.
[21:28] <Kidfork> slytherin: Just one thing, high quality version of Ubuntu or Java.
[21:29] <slytherin> Kidfork: high quality when starting ubuntu. And make sure that you have Sun JRE installed from package manager.
[21:33] <slytherin> Kidfork: oops, I meant 'high quality when starting runescape'
[21:34] <Kidfork> slytherin: Yes its called "RuneScape HD"
[21:36] <slytherin> Kidfork: got to go now. I hope someone will help at #ubuntu
[23:42]  * jamesstansell is happy to hear about the team meeting tomorrow
[23:43] <jamesstansell> unfortunately I have a prior engagement which will prevent me from attending


[03:13] <fishscene> Hello. I just ran ubuntu one contact sync on my nexus s and it replaced all 247 of my contacts with blank contacts. Is there any way to fix this?
[03:14] <fishscene> woops. Looks like I should check back. There's a known problem with contacts at the moment. nvm.  :)  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status
[12:47] <duanedesign> 'lo all