[12:01] <System79> elpepa: thats the location of grub.conf
[12:01] <dystopianray> NigelS: he installed a jdk
[12:01] <abstrakt> hmmm, glx is listed but the driver is still listed as 'nv' and not 'nvidia'
[12:01] <dystopianray> NigelS: so yes, he did already have it
[12:01] <NigelS> mustang97: that's a guide for CentOS
[12:01] <elpepa> System79: did you see what I pasted?
[12:01] <abstrakt> shouldn't the installer have changed that for me? or no...
[12:01] <mustang97> Yes, but you can still use it as a base
[12:01] <mustang97> just change a few commands.
[12:01] <System79> elpepa: Yes i did is that your grub directory? >.>
[12:01] <NigelS> dystopianray: he said he had not installed the rpm and even if he had it wouldn't have auto linked because it didn't know to - hence the whole reason in the first place why the guide was telling him to do it
[12:02] <DARKGuy> Hey, is there a workaround for KDE when you close session with Beryl activated, where the desktop icons get moved and appear in other positions when logging back in? like, it doesn't save the icon positions :(
[12:02] <hexstar> abstrakt: it should have but it may have misguessed the xconf location, you could try changing it yourself but first backup your current xconf
[12:02] <elpepa> System79: ys =S
[12:02] <Civik> stefg, i get error 17 : cannot mount selected partition when i try to boot ubuntu and  error 13: invalid or unsupposed executable format when i try to boot windows
[12:02] <mustang97> I had this setup before.  I had the same issue with jdk and came here last time and got help.    that was few months ago.  forgot what I did to get it to work thoe.
[12:02] <dystopianray> NigelS: he said he installed a jdk from the repos
[12:02] <System79> elpepa: Ah i see it is let me check upon it.
[12:02] <dystopianray> NigelS: he is not supposed to install the rpm
[12:02] <Trashcan> my ISO is verified, why might the installer be saying every package is corrupt?
[12:02] <NigelS> mustang97: in any event, is version 5 of the jdk not enough?
[12:02] <abstrakt> meh, for such a small change i doubt backup is required... i can always boot into recovery mode, but thanks for the suggestion
[12:02] <andrew____> my ipod is mounted and music plays off of it, but I cannot load any. anyone know what to do?
[12:02] <NigelS> dystopianray: yes, no kidding
[12:02] <nikin> is there a way to burn CD-s on the fly over a 256kbit/sec connection.... it does not mather how long it takes...
[12:02] <hexstar> Trashcan: are the packages being installed from the web?
[12:02] <mustang97> first setep is to get jdk 5 installed
[12:02] <compengi> CPF_, if you got a broken package during install this could help "sudo apt-get install -f "
[12:02] <mustang97> I cant get it installed!
[12:02] <x_> ! codec | x
[12:02] <ubotu> x: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:02] <Trashcan> hexstar: that's what i assumed
[12:03] <CPF_> compengi: Thanks, I'll try that.
[12:03] <IndyGunFreak> andrew____: what program are you using to sync your IPOD?
[12:03] <hexstar> Trashcan: probably a bad mirror, try again and hopefully it'll select a better one
[12:03] <Trashcan> kk thanks
[12:03] <dystopianray> mustang97: install sun-java5-jdk
[12:03] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar.: ok i know you know... but for my little brain.. you did indeed send me a link to open suse updates!!!
[12:03] <astro76> nikin, definitely not
[12:03] <andrew____> Banshee, I've used a couple different ones though.
[12:03] <NigelS> dystopianray: where did he say he got nit from the repos? I don't see that in the log
[12:03] <hexstar> Trashcan: also make sure all your connections are secure and ok
[12:03] <hexstar> Trashcan: np :)
[12:03] <CPF_> compengi: Still returning the same :(
[12:03] <IndyGunFreak> andrew____: hmm, i have no experience w/ Banshee, I use Amarok, and it works quite well.
[12:03] <IndyGunFreak> so does Rhythmbox
[12:03] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: Yes I know the package comes with suse, it should still work though
[12:04] <dystopianray> NigelS: I don't want to scroll up, so I don't know
[12:04] <nikin> astro76: :( so buffer underrun will kill the CD ?
[12:04] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: that seems to be the only alternative short of compiling from source
[12:04] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> ok
[12:04] <mustang97> omg..   I said I already have!
[12:04] <IndyGunFreak> andrew____: have you tried amarok?
[12:04] <JayRoe> how do I found out what a display name is?
[12:04] <NigelS> mustang97: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[12:04] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> ty again...
[12:04] <andrew____> I tried gtkpod and rhthymbox to load it.
[12:04] <hexstar> mustang97: be patient, this is free support
[12:04] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: np :)
[12:04] <compengi> CPF_, do you have synaptic opened?
[12:04] <DARKGuy> Hey, is there a workaround for KDE when you close session with Beryl activated, where the desktop icons get moved and appear in other positions when logging back in? like, it doesn't save the icon positions :(
[12:04] <andrew____> Hmm, I can't remember I'll try.
[12:04] <IndyGunFreak> andrew____: i didn't have much luck w/ gtkpod, and rhythmbox is a bit of a pain, but amarok is pretty easy
[12:04] <andrew____> I'll be back in a second.
[12:04] <dystopianray> mustang97: if you have installed the jdk, then /usr/bin/java should exist
[12:05] <stefg> Civik: hmmm... this is a bios/acpi issue. the bios seems to be too clever in determining from where to boot. Since i can't look at your bios, you're probably better off with http://freshmeat.net/projects/supergrub/ and see if this can get t your grub fixed
[12:05] <dystopianray> mustang97: and from your instructions, that should be sufficient
[12:05] <CPF_> compengi: I have now...
[12:05] <hexstar> DarkGuy: sounds like there's seperate icon position settings for beryl and kde
[12:05] <NigelS> mustang97: you keep contradicting yourself you say it's not instaled and then say you already have it..
[12:05] <compengi> CPF_, then close it and try that command
[12:05] <mustang97>  lol..   no I dont..  your not listening.
[12:05] <elpepa> System79: I really think grub.conf was replaced by menu.lst or something like that
[12:05] <NigelS> mustang97: I have re-read the log of what you said
[12:05] <DARKGuy> hexstar: o.o.. that's weird, Beryl isn't suppossed to store that... or does it? =/ dangit
[12:05] <CPF_> compengi: I tried that command with synaptic closed...
[12:05] <mustang97> the jdk your saying I hae done.  the one I am trying to do is NOT
[12:05] <System79> elpepa: Im looking it up..
[12:05] <Civik> stefg, so just download that a burn it to cd?
[12:05] <mustang97> Read again
[12:05] <stefg> Civik: right
[12:05] <hexstar> DARKGuy: I think it does
[12:06] <CPF_> I'll go to some pastebin, and paste the error there, you'll see what I mean :)
[12:06] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar: i bet you can guess my next question.. haha
[12:06] <hexstar> Beryl is a graphical manager just like KDE is
[12:06] <stefg> Civik: and read the docu, of course
[12:06] <dystopianray> mustang97: install sun-java5-jdk, then you will have /usr/bin/java
[12:06] <DARKGuy> hexstar: oh... you know how to fix it?
[12:06] <mustang97> I said I am trying to installed  jdk-1_5_0_11-linux-i586-rpm.bin   as in chmod u+x jdk-1_5_0_11-linux-i586-rpm.bin   ./jdk-1_5_0_11-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[12:06] <NigelS> mustang97: YOU said you had it, not us.  update-alternatives --config java lets you choose the version you want to use
[12:06] <mustang97> NOT a freaking apt-get sun-java5-jdk
[12:06] <compengi> !paste | CPF_
[12:06] <ubotu> CPF_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:06] <NigelS> mustang97: and we TOLD YOU to stop it
[12:06] <hexstar> DARKGuy: not really other then doing the same positions manually for both kde and beryl
[12:06] <sodani_> can someone tell me the command for stopping httpd?
[12:06] <dystopianray> mustang97: do not install the rpm, install it from the repos
[12:06] <erUSUL> !java | mustang97
[12:06] <System79> elpepa: Please pastebin your menu.lst
[12:06] <ubotu> mustang97: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[12:06] <mustang97> the repos wont work!
[12:06] <mustang97> I have read that site it is bs
[12:07] <System79> elpepa: Its indeed replaced
[12:07] <CPF_> Lol, do I have to use that one?
[12:07] <dystopianray> mustang97: pastebin any errors you get
[12:07] <hexstar> sodani_: /etc/init.d/httpd stop
[12:07] <NigelS> mustang97: then give us the specific error for why they wont work
[12:07] <compengi> CPF_, nope ;)
[12:07] <CPF_> compengi: http://pastebin.com/m661c75e1
[12:07] <sodani_> hexstar: I don't have httpd in that folder
[12:07] <DARKGuy> hexstar: I dunno how would I do such for Beryl
[12:07] <elpepa> !paste
[12:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:08] <hexstar> sodani_: what about /etc/init.d/apache stop
[12:08] <sodani_> I don't have /sbin/service either
[12:08] <sodani_> hexstar: nope
[12:08] <mustang97> sun-java5-jdk is already the newest version.
[12:08] <NETWizz> My friend cannot get out of the gui
[12:08] <mustang97>   Selection    Alternative
[12:08] <mustang97> -----------------------------------------------
[12:08] <mustang97>       1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[12:08] <mustang97> *+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[12:08] <mustang97>       3        /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[12:08] <NETWizz> how can he get to the prompt
[12:08] <mustang97>       4        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[12:08] <NETWizz> and actually get out of gui
[12:08] <sodani_> and I know I have apache because httpd shows up when I type in ps -A
[12:09] <mustang97> its installed yet no selection.
[12:09] <hexstar> sodani_: well you could always do killall httpd ...it seems like the init scripts never got installed
[12:09] <compengi> !paste | mustang97
[12:09] <ubotu> mustang97: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:09] <Trashcan> hexstar: THANKS man, its working great now!
[12:09] <Trashcan> props to hexstr
[12:09] <hexstar> Trashcan: np :)
[12:09] <lineman60> whats the command ot see the list of pacages in stall on a box
[12:09] <Trashcan> s/hexstr/hexstar
[12:09] <EADG_> NETWizz: ctrl+alt+F1-F6  alt+F7 to get back to gui
[12:09] <elpepa> System79: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30727/plain/
[12:09] <hexstar> DARKGuy: well what I'd do is manually arrange the icons when logged in with Beryl, log out and do the same for KDX. I know it's not that fun but I'm not sure what else to do
[12:09] <NETWizz> He needs to actually unload xorg
[12:09] <lee> how do i set my .bashrc to display on the directory i'm in at the prompt instead of the whole path?
[12:09] <NETWizz> he is installing the nvidia driver
[12:09] <compengi> CPF_, i don't see anything of what you posted
[12:09] <erUSUL> mustang97: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[12:09] <hexstar> lineman60: you can do that with synaptic
[12:09] <mustang97> I just did
[12:10] <NigelS> mustang97: you've currently got the gcj set to be your vm, you almost certainly don't want that - choose the sun java one that you want
[12:10] <mustang97> I pasted it!!!!!!
[12:10] <Civik> stefg,  brb
[12:10] <NETWizz> but for some reason /etc/init.d/gdm stop just restarts the gdm
[12:10] <NETWizz> any idea
[12:10] <mustang97> I need jdk
[12:10] <DARKGuy> hexstar: okay... I could do that, no problem for me - do you know how to?
[12:10] <System79> elpepa: What is the partition windows XP is running on?
[12:10] <mustang97> I dont see a selection for it
[12:10] <sodani_> hexstar: any idea what would cause the init scripts to not get installed? I just set up this server...
[12:10] <hexstar> NETWizz: killall gdm
[12:10] <lineman60> hexstar not with apt?
[12:10] <erUSUL> mustang97: so choose the number 4 or 3...
[12:10] <elpepa> System79: it's actually on a separate HD
[12:10] <mustang97> those are jre
[12:10] <mustang97> I need jdk
[12:10] <lineman60> i know you can i just dont rember the command
[12:10] <System79> elpepa: Thats even handier :p
[12:10] <hexstar> sodani_: I'm not sure, the best I could think of is if you did it by source and missed that step or if you used a non ubuntu package
[12:10] <CPF_> compengi: http://pastebin.com/m661c75e1 Should do it... :-/
[12:10] <elpepa> System79: I think it would be hda1
[12:11] <erUSUL> mustang97: have you actually tried to run the java compiler?
[12:11] <sodani_> hexstar: yeah I did do it by source. damn. okay thx
[12:11] <hexstar> lineman60: dpkg --get-selections
[12:11] <IndyGunFreak> andrew____: did you get it working?
[12:11] <elpepa> System79: I thought that too, but my problem is that when trying to install WinXP, it writes on its own HD's MBR
[12:11] <erUSUL> mustang97: after you choose the right jre to run the javac on
[12:11] <hexstar> sodani_: np, you probably missed something somewhere unfortunately :(
[12:11] <SlickMcRunfast> Why is it that the fourms gain ~400 members per. day, but the irc gains nothing?
[12:12] <hexstar> SlickMcRunfast: what are you talking about?
[12:12] <SlickMcRunfast> great now i have to go look up the article
[12:12] <mustang97> Correct me if I am wrong but jre is NOT the same as jdk?
[12:12] <SlickMcRunfast> ahhh
[12:12] <vox754> mustang97, are you on Ubuntu 6.10 or 7.04?
[12:12] <System79> elpepa: You must install windows XP seeing as it wont harm your ubuntu installation, just let it go and make sure you get the right hard disk (if you have bad eyes :p) Then reinstall grub from the live-cd
[12:12] <stefg> Civik: so i think it got somthing to do with the bios swapping drives around at boot.  it boots from the small hd, but somehow the big one becomes hd0 in the process. so the swap boot drive features of the super grub disk will help you find that out
[12:12] <mustang97> older 6.06
[12:13] <SlickMcRunfast> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=505228
[12:13] <mustang97> havent upgraded in a while
[12:13] <IndyGunFreak> mustang97: why don't yu upgrade?
[12:13] <sodani_> I'm on dapper. can someone confirm that apache 2.2 needs to be installed from source?
[12:13] <erUSUL> mustang97: yes but the jdk has to run on a jre so if you install a jdk you get the jre plus the development programs that need a jre to run on
[12:13] <System79> elpepa: Then it comes to editing your grub configuration to start windows XP, but i've already done that for you here ;)
[12:13] <odat> anyone know anything about banshee?
[12:13] <lineman60> hexstar thanks that was it
[12:13] <Wodger> irc only shows online folk formums all that have joined ever...
[12:13] <compengi> CPF_, well i have no idea about that issue, but i surely know that during install if a package is interrupted or failed running "apt-get install -f" would fix the problem. try to ask someone that has a clear view about this issue
[12:13] <hexstar> lineman60: np :)
[12:13] <elpepa> System79: I tried that, but after WinXP installer copies all files, it performs a reboot in order to continue with the installation, running from the HD. At that point, my computer just won't boot sh1t
[12:14] <AfterDeath> Is Ubuntu-ppc/powerpc still supported / developed ?
[12:14] <erUSUL> odat: it is a mp3 player written in C# that runs on mono similar to itunes
[12:14] <vadiml1024> vadiml1024
[12:14] <System79> elpepa: Does it come up with any error message at all?
[12:14] <IndyGunFreak> AfterDeath: i don't think so, Edgy was it.
[12:14] <NigelS> mustang97: the jre is what you want, the jdk elements are still present of course
[12:14] <SlickMcRunfast> Wodger: still the irc hovers around 1000 - 1100 for the past few months
[12:14] <odat> erUSUL, i can't seem to get the radio stations working
[12:14] <CPF_> compengi: Can you refresh?
[12:14] <SlickMcRunfast> since i have been watching
[12:14] <hexstar> AfterDeath: for ppc macs I recommend yellowdoglinux.com
[12:14] <nadu> hey guys i got a question: so i put in my osx drive into ubuntu and it auto mounted
[12:14] <NigelS> mustang97: you don't run java code with a special VM for having the JDK, the dev tools of the JDK are still there
[12:14] <nadu> but i cant get into protected folders like my user
[12:14] <elpepa> I thought I might just disconnect my Ubuntu HD, install windoze, and after that POS is installed, re-connect my Ubuntu HD and repair Grub
[12:14] <nadu> so how exactly do i do that
[12:14] <erUSUL> odat: i do not use it (rhythmbox )
[12:15] <dystopianray> AfterDeath: ppc isn't officially supported anymore
[12:15] <hexstar> nadu: you have to be root
[12:15] <IndyGunFreak> AfterDeath: im pretty sure Mepis also has a PPC client, and Mepis is more or less Ubuntu with a Root account instead of Sudo
[12:15] <compengi> CPF_, after you pasted the last link i saw your post but i have no idea of that issue
[12:15] <vox754> mustang97, well, unless you are using backports there is no way to get the newest Java because they are not available for 6.06 repositories.
[12:15] <nickrud> sodani_, according to packages.ubuntu.com, dapper has 2.0.55
[12:15] <hexstar> yellowdoglinux.com :D
[12:15] <hexstar> best ppc distro :D
[12:15] <Benni> is this the support chanel?
[12:15] <System79> elpepa: But it does install windows right it doesnt start it, right?
[12:15] <elpepa> but, that's something I didn't want to do, just because I like doing things the right way :P
[12:15] <vadiml1024> vadiml1024
[12:15] <AfterDeath> hrm, darn :|
[12:15] <ghost--> .undernet.org
[12:15] <CPF_> compengi: Refresh, I've viewed the whole command, and the result of it...
[12:15] <nickrud> Benni, yes
[12:15] <mustang97> LOL   okay vox..  speaking I had this working a few months ago.
[12:15] <Benni> ok
[12:16] <Benni> ill wait thill u guys are finished
[12:16] <JayRoe> How do I run a script on display 0.1?
[12:16] <hexstar> doesn't java.com have an official java install package?
[12:16] <NigelS> mustang97: have you chosen the sun java option in update-alternatives yet?
[12:16] <nadu> so how do i access the drive as root
[12:16] <System79> elpepa: If there are no errors when installing, you should be able to start the live-cd of ubuntu, and type in mount /dev/hda1
[12:16] <elpepa> System79: it actually doesn't end the installation. It finishes the first part, the "copy files" section, but then it won't continue because it can't boot
[12:16] <hexstar> in terminal su, then cd to wherever
[12:16] <nickrud> lol, Benni it's always like this.       A little advise.    Not all laptops are supported...
[12:18] <elpepa> I've been dual booting since Red hat 6.2, I always knew I should install Linux at the last
[12:18] <Benni> o
[12:18] <stefg> Benni: only some of them
[12:18] <nadu> wait hexstar
[12:18] <Benni> o
[12:18] <nickrud> Benni, I was absolutely amazed, my gateway every single thing worked: I had to do a little for wireless
[12:18] <hexstar> nadu: ?
[12:18] <nadu> i do su and my pass is wrong
[12:18] <CPF_> Benni: But, still best laptop support available :p
[12:18] <hexstar> nadu: ah
[12:18] <elpepa> sadly this time I can't choose
[12:18] <nadu> what is hte default pass for su
[12:19] <hexstar> nadu: it needs to be right for it to work ...are you on the live cd?
[12:19] <nadu> its a fresh install of ubuntu
[12:19] <System79> elpepa: I think you might do what you said, and disconnect your ubuntu drive and reconnect later
[12:19] <dystopianray> Benni: it depends on the particular laptop, some work well, some don't work well
[12:19] <hexstar> nadu: oh, I think it's root
[12:19] <Flannel> nadu: There is none.  Ubuntu doesn't use the root account. Use sudo instead
[12:19] <nadu> k
[12:19] <System79> elpepa: Then start from the live-cd and fix up grub
[12:19] <hexstar> oh
[12:19] <JayRoe> can someone tell me how I tell ubuntu to run a script a terminal?
[12:19] <astro76> hexstar, it would be best not to recommend su as root is not enabled in ubuntu, use sudo
[12:19] <nadu> hexstar: nope
[12:19] <abstrakt> hey, where does the nvidia-config app put that backup?
[12:19] <Benni> well mine wont even boot up! ive used DSL linux, but i needed to use the argument: expert nopcmc\ia
[12:19] <System79> elpepa: I have made a dual boot grub config for you i got it right here
[12:19] <elpepa> yes, I'll do that, then fix the grub, then add WinXP to Grub
[12:19] <hexstar> astro76: ok
[12:19] <nadu> astro76: when i try and do sudo cd it wont work
[12:19] <abstrakt> i remember seeing the msg but i forgot where it said it went
[12:19] <dystopianray> JayRoe: how do you run a script in a terminal?
[12:19] <elpepa> hehe you're gr8 man
[12:19] <abstrakt> this is just fuckin retarded though, seriously, why tf can't they get it right?
[12:19] <JayRoe> dystopianray, with sh.
[12:19] <BoBothn> Ok i ran the game using "aoss wolfsp" and i heard sound but it was extremely choppy and i can make out what is going on
[12:20] <CPF_> abstrakt: /etc/X/xorg.conf[something with backup]
[12:20] <Flannel> nadu: that's because `sudo cd` is silly.  You'll change directories and then return to your regular shell, unchanged.  If you want a root shell, use `sudo -i`
[12:20] <compengi> JayRoe, a .sh script?
[12:20] <abstrakt> CPF_: hmm, i looked there
[12:20] <CPF_> */etc/X11/
[12:20] <CPF_> xD
[12:20] <astro76> nadu, what are you trying to do?
[12:20] <dystopianray> JayRoe: make sure it has execute permissions and then $ ./blah
[12:20] <abstrakt> CPF_: it's not there
[12:20] <nadu> im trying to access a User folder on my osx86 drive
[12:20] <abstrakt> i swear it was a different folder
[12:20] <CPF_> Than it didn't backup :-/
[12:20] <BoBothn> System79 i ran the game using "aoss wolfsp" and i heard sound but it was extremely choppy and i can make out what is going on
[12:20] <JayRoe> compengi. Yeh, I want to move the cursor to the center of the second screen
[12:20] <abstrakt> aw fuck
[12:20] <dystopianray> Bobothn: does the game support alsa at all?
[12:20] <CPF_> abstrakt: Try the ~ thigns...
[12:20] <hexstar> !ohmy | abstrakt
[12:20] <ubotu> abstrakt: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:21] <CPF_> *things xD
[12:21] <System79> BoBothn: What sound card do you have?
[12:21] <abstrakt> CPF_: 0.o ?
[12:21] <JayRoe> dystopianray, could you explain it in a little more details?
[12:21] <nadu> Flannel: you genius
[12:21] <abstrakt> CPF_: you mean look in my home folder?
[12:21] <nadu> it worked
[12:21] <BoBothn> Built in to my mobo a realtek
[12:21] <elpepa> System79: it came empty
[12:21] <CPF_> abstrakt: Do you have any files with ~ in the filename on the /etc/X11 dir?
[12:21] <vox754> damn! where are the mods? Things are heated here today.
[12:21] <elpepa> System79: can you pastebin it?
[12:21] <System79> elpepa: ill pastebin it
[12:21] <abstrakt> CPF_: no
[12:21] <System79> !paste
[12:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:21] <Littlegator> When I try to install, it says there is no root file system. I have "/" assigned to a 4GB partition, "swap" assigned to a 1GB partition, and "/media/hda2" assigned to a 33GB partition...
[12:21] <elpepa> haha no one ever remembers that url
[12:22] <dystopianray> JayRoe: ok assuming the file is named 'blah' and is in your home directory: '$ chmox +x blah', then '$ ./blah'
[12:22] <CPF_> abstrakt: Ok, try cd'ing to your root, and sudo find | grep xorg.conf
[12:22] <MrKeuner> hi, how can I make feisty show a specific icon instead of a blank white one for a specific file type, for example jar file type?
[12:22] <BoBothn> dystopianray, how do you tell if it suports alsa?
[12:22] <hexstar> Littlegator: what format did you assign to /?
[12:22] <Benni> does ubuntu have cheatcodes, kinda lke knoppix?
[12:22] <Littlegator> hexstar: it's ext3
[12:22] <compengi> JayRoe, make your .sh file executed by chmod +x file.sh then ./file.sh
[12:22] <JayRoe> dystopianray, I forgot to mention, that I'd like it to run it in a new terminal.
[12:22] <CPF_> Benni: cheatcodes?
[12:22] <hexstar> Littlegator: should work..
[12:22] <dystopianray> Bobothn: check it's documentation
[12:22] <Benni> o
[12:22] <Benni> i guess not...
[12:22] <Littlegator> hexstar: Yeah, that's what I don't get...
[12:22] <Benni> crap
[12:23] <hexstar> Littlegator: is the drive formatted with no existing partitions?
[12:23] <System79> elpepa: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30729/
[12:23] <abstrakt> wow, this is just... i'm rather speechless... i guess i shouldn't be surprised... but i thought maybe Ubuntu wasn't going to suck
[12:23] <JayRoe> compengi, what is the difference between sh and ./?
[12:23] <dystopianray> JayRoe: if you click on the script you should be able to have it start in a new terminal
[12:23] <System79> abstrakt: ubuntu doesnt suck if you have any idea how linux works
[12:23] <abstrakt> how do i "restart gdm"
[12:23] <Littlegator> hexstar: all of these are on the same drive, and they're all different partitions
[12:23] <CPF_> abstrakt: What do you mean?
[12:23] <abstrakt> System79: oh spare me, please
[12:23] <CPF_> With that suck thing?
[12:23] <JayRoe> dystopianray, what if I want to start the script from another terminal?
[12:23] <hexstar> Littlegator: do you possibly have other linux partitions on teh drive?
[12:23] <dystopianray> abstrakt: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:23] <abstrakt> System79: i've got a VERY good idea how linux works man, i used *nix on my desktop for about 5 years
[12:23] <chowmeined> abstrakt: ctrl + alt + backspace
[12:23] <elpepa> System79: thanks amigo
[12:23] <CPF_> At any rate -> CRTL + ALT + BACKSPACE is the fastest solution... xD
[12:23] <Benni> how do you boot up without the pcmcia hardware?
[12:23] <abstrakt> dystopianray: k thanks
[12:24] <Littlegator> hexstar: no
[12:24] <System79> elpepa: np
[12:24] <jamierc> anyone help me with a list of advantages ubutnu has over other linux distros, for an article Im writing? (genuine request)
[12:24] <Benni> like before knoppix boots
[12:24] <abstrakt> chowmeined: that doesn't work if the xserver isn't running
[12:24] <chowmeined> abstrakt: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:24] <System79> abstrakt: what is your problem then?
[12:24] <hexstar> Littlegator: ah sorry, no clue. Haven't encountered that myself...that really should work..
[12:24] <dystopianray> JayRoe: i'm not sure exactly what you want to do
[12:24] <hexstar> abstrakt: killall gdm!!
[12:24] <CPF_> Than try start instead of restart?
[12:24] <dystopianray> JayRoe: just open another terminal and run the script
[12:24] <System79> abstrakt: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop and then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:24] <System79> abstrakt: easy as that
[12:24] <hexstar> killalll gdm
[12:25] <elpepa> abstrakt: 5 years using nix on your desktop? You should know by now how to search for "restart gdm" without going into irc
[12:25] <System79> hexstar: also possible =x
[12:25] <abstrakt> System79: yes they already told me, thanks
[12:25] <Benni> coyas
[12:25] <System79> abstrakt: no problem =/
[12:25] <abstrakt> elpepa: whatever man, i haven't used *nix for about a year now
[12:25] <stefg> jamierc: don't you think a simple google search will turn up more sensible results? Just look around .... if you want some marketing hype join #ubuntu-marketing
[12:25] <JayRoe> dystopianray, I'm trying to move my cursor to the center of the second screen with "xwit -warp 50 50". But xwit only move the cursor to the screen that ran "xwit -warp 50 50"
[12:25] <System79> hexstar: wow helping people is fun =P
[12:25] <abstrakt> elpepa: you should realize that people don't remember everything all the time and that IRC is faster than dealing with lynx
[12:25] <hexstar> System79: lol
[12:25] <elpepa> ok next time try not say ubuntu sucks in a ubuntu channel
[12:26] <abstrakt> ubuntu sucks
[12:26] <abstrakt> whoops
[12:26] <Ronald> Hi!
[12:26] <x_> i need some help   ... why i have sound just in start up not later ?! ... i using Creative audiogy zs plutonium pro .
[12:26] <hexstar> lol
[12:26] <nadu> alright guys one more thing
[12:26] <nadu> how do i mount a bin cue file
[12:26] <compengi> JayRoe, ./ is a direct execute command for any executed file
[12:26] <Madsy> x_: "Plutonium" ?
[12:26] <Littlegator> Abstrakt, what exactly are you trying to do?
[12:26] <elpepa> oooh!! You're really an internet big time
[12:26] <System79> nadu: mountiso if im right
[12:26] <hexstar> nadu: you're going to have to use toast for that
[12:26] <abstrakt> Littlegator: install nvidia drivers
[12:26] <nadu> nah im in ubuntu
[12:26] <nadu> no toast
[12:26] <hexstar> nadu: or actually k3b
[12:26] <Ronald> procmail problem: Executed from cron through dspam. Procmail uses the euid for setting the permissiins: procmail: Assigning "ID=uid=8(mail) gid=8(mail) euid=0(root) groups=8(mail)"
[12:26] <x_> masty .. i'm not sure about spell   ;-)
[12:26] <nadu> k
[12:26] <abstrakt> Littlegator: i used synaptic to install nvidia-glx-new
[12:26] <dystopianray> JayRoe: oh, are the screens running separate X servers?
[12:26] <Ronald> I need mail:mail
[12:27] <jamierc> stefg> googling ubuntu is a nightmare, doesnt bring up anything useful
[12:27] <JayRoe> compengi, sh isn't?
[12:27] <Littlegator> abstrakt: and you're too computer-illiterate to install them properly, so it sucks?
[12:27] <abstrakt> Littlegator: and ran the nvidia-config command to install said module into X
[12:27] <System79> hexstar: i thought there was a program in ubuntu called mountiso
[12:27] <JayRoe> dystopianray, yes I've set up a HTPC with mythtv on the tv-out
[12:27] <x_> Madsy sorry dude ... i'm not sure about spell check
[12:27] <Littlegator> abstrakt: gb2/windows/
[12:27] <hexstar> and abstrakt scolded me saying he wasn't a n00b..
[12:27] <abstrakt> Littlegator: hahahahaha, good one, thanks for the insult, got any actual help to offer?
[12:27] <hexstar> System79: yeah, but isn't a cue file different from a iso?
[12:27] <abstrakt> Littlegator: dude i followed the instructions it gave me. it should work. i don't need to proove my computer literacy to you
[12:27] <hexstar> maybe it'll work with mountiso...never tried
[12:27] <dystopianray> JayRoe: ok, so if the second display is :1 then.... $ DISPLAY=":1" blah
[12:28] <compengi> JayRoe, try man sh
[12:28] <System79> hexstar: a cue file is usually linked to a .bin or .iso or .img file.
[12:28] <astro76> !loopback | nadu
[12:28] <ubotu> nadu: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[12:28] <hexstar> abstrakt: don't worry, ew know you don't have any
[12:28] <Littlegator> abstrakt, instead of complaining, how about asking for help?
[12:28] <hexstar> system79: true
[12:28] <abstrakt> Littlegator: 2 problems, X should find a valid screen, and my old xorg.conf should be backed up somewhere but apparently the nvidia-config utility didn't do that
[12:28] <abstrakt> Littlegator: i did already
[12:28] <abstrakt> hexstar: you get ye ol' ignore thanks
[12:28] <JayRoe> dystopianray I tried that, but it didn't work as the script ran in the same terminal
[12:28] <Madsy> x_: I didn't fix your spelling. I just found it weird that a soundcard is named Plutonium :)
[12:28] <System79> abstrakt: i had the same problem as u a while ago.
[12:28] <hexstar> abstrakt: you're welcome :)
[12:29] <abstrakt> System79: hey! there we go
[12:29] <abstrakt> i'm not just a tard
[12:29] <akos> hello! glxinfo says i don't have direct rendering enabled... why is that? i have the binary nvidia drivers installed.....
[12:29] <CPF_> abstrakt: Try and fix it yourself? -> sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:29] <CPF_> Shouldn't be to hard.
[12:29] <CPF_> *too
[12:29] <x_> how i can install sound card drivers ?!  i using Creative audiogy zs plotonium pro ... i have sound just in startup   not more
[12:29] <JayRoe> dystopianray, xwit has a "-display" option, but I haven't been able to get it to work
[12:29] <dystopianray> abstrakt: if your xorg.conf is broken try generating a fresh one
[12:29] <nadu> so how exactly do i use k3b to mount the bin cue
[12:29] <abstrakt> CPF_: dude, i'm already a step ahead of you man
[12:29] <System79> CPF_ the nvidia utils mess up your stuff >.>
[12:29] <CPF_> Syste
[12:29] <abstrakt> dystopianray: yeah i guess i could do that, what's that command again, xf86config or something?
[12:29] <hexstar> nadu: http://snippets.dzone.com/posts/show/2699
[12:29] <abstrakt> xorgconfig?
[12:29] <CPF_> System79: Not really, have not had any problem atm with it...
[12:29] <nadu> ty
[12:30] <astro76> nadu, read the link ubotu gave you, at his information on converting to iso, then you can follow ubotu's advice about mounting an iso
[12:30] <hexstar> nadu: np :)
[12:30] <dystopianray> abstrakt: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:30] <System79> abstrakt: boot up your live cd open a terminal and type sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /media/hda/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:30] <CPF_> System79: I'm running a proud 2-monitor 2-Xserver config atm...
[12:30] <x_> MADSY ... what's different between plotonium or plutonium ?!!!   it's look same too me  :-)
[12:30] <hexstar> abstrakt: I told you already get the working xconf off the live cd ramdisk!
[12:30] <abstrakt> Littlegator: yes, i *could* have downloaded the nvidia drivers manually and installed kernel headers and compiled the nvidia drivers against them
[12:30] <NETWizz> anyone ever hear of secon dlife
[12:30] <hexstar> abstrakt: you don't listen...
[12:30] <abstrakt> Littlegator: but i didn't wanna do that, i wanted to have faith in Ubuntu's package management system
[12:30] <hexstar> NETWizz: yes
[12:30] <dystopianray> NETWizz: yes
[12:30] <System79> CPF_: The drivers from the NVIDIA site mess your xorg.conf up badly
[12:30] <hexstar> NETWizz: apparently some companies are doing job interviews on there :o
[12:30] <abstrakt> System79: ahhh good idea
[12:30] <CPF_> System79: Like how?
[12:30] <System79> CPF_: It adds two methods that are not supported
[12:31] <CPF_> System79: Which ones? and I didn't download them from the site, but from aptitude.
[12:31] <System79> CPF_: And it changes things in the config which does not allow X to start because of an module error >.>
[12:31] <Madsy> x_: Okay, I didn't _mean_ to fix your spelling ;)
[12:31] <stefg> jamierc: how about this for a copy and paste job ? :-) http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/desktopedition
[12:31] <System79> CPF_: Then your allright ;x
[12:31] <abstrakt> Littlegator: but, much to my chagrin, it sucked! and now i'm stuck without X after i did nothing but what a "good n00b" should do, which is follow instructions directly and Ubuntu's nvidia packages fucked up my config for me... thanks for not sucking Ubuntu
[12:31] <x_> Madsy .. r u from europe ?!  your nice name look like from scandinavian or germani  ;-)
[12:32] <CPF_> System79: that's why ubuntu aptitude exists, I guess xD
[12:32] <System79> abstrakt: Go do what i told you if you want to fix it ;)
[12:32] <Madsy> x_: Norway.
[12:32] <abstrakt> System79: yeh i will thanks
[12:32] <hexstar> abstrakt: if you listened to me...
[12:32] <x_> Madsy ... comeoooonnn your cool ;-)
[12:32] <Madsy> My first name is Mads.
[12:32] <abstrakt> System79: can i just pop the cd in and mount it and get the files off there or do i really need to boot into the LiveCD?
[12:32] <JayRoe> dystopianray I have a script that mounts some network shares before it starts mythtv. What should I add to the script in order to make it run the script 'movecursor' on my tv-out?
[12:32] <x_> Madsy .. i mean u r joke .. ok ... that's it  ;-)  hehehe  :D
[12:32] <abstrakt> System79: is there a version of said xorg.conf i could just wget from somewhere?
[12:32] <System79> abstrakt: you need to boot with the live cd if you want a proper config
[12:32] <hexstar> abstrakt: that was suggested by me
[12:32] <hexstar> abstrakt: you have to boot the live cd
[12:32] <System79> abstrakt: I could upload mine for you at pastebin
[12:33] <dystopianray> JayRoe: why aren't you mounting the shares in /etc/fstab ?
[12:33] <abstrakt> System79: ahhh right, yeah i suppose then it'll put the appropriate settings in there from what it autodetects on my hardware
[12:33] <System79> abstrakt: Ill upload my config to pastebin ;)
[12:33] <abstrakt> System79: not that it really matters, cuz the device names don't mean jack, but still
[12:33] <abstrakt> System79: no that's cool man i'll just boot the livecd
[12:33] <System79> abstrakt: Ok :p
[12:33] <abstrakt> latz
[12:33] <System79> Hah, always works
[12:33] <System79> =)
[12:33] <JayRoe> dystopianray, they are mounted in /etc/fstab/. But I added noauto, because otherwise ubuntu would hang while looking for them on boot.
[12:34] <x_> round 3 .... 3th round   ..... i need help about installing my sound card drivers ... who can help me ?!
[12:34] <dystopianray> JayRoe: where is 'movecusor' located on your filesystem?
[12:34] <System79> x_: What soundcard do you have
[12:34] <hexstar> funny how abstrakt wouldn't do it when I said it but did it when system79 suggested it...:P
[12:34] <jamierc> Stefg: thanks for the link, but nothing new really. I need to be able to say why ubuntu has become the distro of choice for many rookies, what it has that other distros dont.
[12:34] <NETWizz> Neautrasweet kills ants
[12:34] <NETWizz> aspartame
[12:34] <x_> system79   creative audiogy zs plotonium pro
[12:34] <NETWizz> serriously
[12:34] <JayRoe> dystopianray, same folder as my startmyth script. ~/.mythtv/
[12:34] <hexstar> NETWizz: lol
[12:34] <dystopianray> JayRoe: then just add ./movecusor to the startup script
[12:34] <System79> x_: Geez cant creative make normal names anymore o.o
[12:35] <YossarianFan> ._.
[12:35] <System79> x_: Anyway, have you been to creative website?
[12:35] <x_> system79  ... lol ... yeah .. i'm agree with u  :-)
[12:35] <System79> x_: There is supposed to be a driver database there
[12:35] <dystopianray> System79: for windows...
[12:35] <YossarianFan> *sighs*
[12:35] <JayRoe> dystopianray, that will only move the cursor relative to the first monitor. I need to make the script open a new terminal to run the script.
[12:36] <dystopianray> JayRoe: why does it need a new terminal?
[12:36] <x_> system79   yeah .. dosen't worked
[12:36] <System79> x_: im searching for you ;)
[12:36] <YossarianFan> I don't understand how to install anything. ;_; I really don't want to have to go back to WIndows. So much drama. >_>
[12:36] <taime1> when using the restricted drivers manager to install my nvidia driver, i dont have the configuration tool that normally comes with the nvidia driver, does anyone know where i can get this tool?
[12:36] <hexstar> YossarianFan: what do you need help installing?
[12:36] <x_> system 79 ... thanks friend ... model is : audiogy 2 zs plotonium pro
[12:36] <YossarianFan> Oh, everything. :)
[12:36] <Vipio> hi
[12:36] <dystopianray> x_: is it a pcmcia card?
[12:36] <hexstar> YossarianFan: ok, name one thing
[12:36] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: you will need to be much more specific
[12:36] <JayRoe> dystopianray, because if I know the command to run the script in a new terminal, I can insert DISPLAY=":0.1" to make it run on the tv-out
[12:37] <System79> x_: But doesnt your sound already work?
[12:37] <x_> dystopianray   what ?!
[12:37] <dystopianray> JayRoe: just put DISPLAY in
[12:37] <System79> x_: Ubuntu is to autoconfigure your drivers
[12:37] <Vipio> has anyone installed a wireless pcmcia cad succesfully?
[12:37] <dystopianray> JayRoe: DISPLAY=":0.1" ./movecursor
[12:37] <Wmich06> yup
[12:37] <dystopianray> Vipio: yes
[12:37] <YossarianFan> Adobe, Wine (I installed it in Synaptic but can't seem to figure out how to use it - same thing for ntfsprogs) and something else..
[12:37] <JayRoe> dystopianray, I tried that, but it still runs the script in the same terminal
[12:37] <stefg> jamierc: what basically makes the succes is the sensible choice of default settings. Unlike other linux distros you don't have to make educated decisions about what you're going to take for a job, you're just presented with an (arguably) sensibly  preconfigured system, and you can alter the defailts as you grow in knowledge
[12:37] <x_> system79 ... just in startup i can hear Ubuntu loading sound .. that's it ... not more sound
[12:37] <taime1> does anyone know where i can get the nvidia configuration tool?
[12:38] <Wmich06> turn up ur speakers
[12:38] <System79> x_: Go to your sound settings
[12:38] <dystopianray> taime1: comes with nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-new
[12:38] <hexstar> YossarianFan: to install adobe download the adobe reader package from adobe.com and click it and follow the prompts, for wine you go into terminal and type wine /local/to/exe.exe
[12:38] <trippndarift> Hi. I use the Nautilus Script that rotates selected images. I was wondering if anyone knows if this rotation is a harmless rotation or if it will degrade the JPEG data?
[12:38] <x_> system79 ... can u tell me step by step ?!  i'm not pro in linux  ;-)
[12:38] <System79> x_: Its hard for me to find your config tool cause im on XUbuntu at the moment >.>
[12:38] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: you don't need adobe reader, you should already have a pdf reader
[12:38] <Vipio> dystopianray, can you help me? I've got a linksys WPC54gs but it doesn't find any sire
[12:38] <Vipio> wire*
[12:38] <YossarianFan> oh, and I have a sound card issue. I can get sound (thanks to the forum) but can't figure hout how to permanently modify the etc/modules thing to make it load snd-sb16 automatically
[12:38] <taime1> dystopianray: that isnt the driver that 'restricted driver manager' installs is it?
[12:38] <hexstar> YossarianFan: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=10&platform=unix
[12:39] <dystopianray> Vipio: what wifi chip does it use?
[12:39] <YossarianFan> Hmm..where's the PDF reader?
[12:39] <dystopianray> taime1: should be
[12:39] <x_> system79 ... oops ... is that cooler than Kubuntu or ubuntu ?!
[12:39] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: just click on a pdf
[12:39] <crimsun> YossarianFan: echo snd-sb16|sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[12:39] <bluesmoon> what's the channel for ubuntulive?
[12:39] <Vipio> how do I see that?
[12:39] <YossarianFan> I have the Linux Adobe already :)
[12:39] <hexstar> YossarianFan: should be in the X menu somewhere
[12:39] <dystopianray> Vipio: pastebin the output of 'lspci' with the card plugged in
[12:39] <System79> x_: it just uses a diffrent window manager and things are in diffrent places ;x
[12:39] <YossarianFan> it's not that I can tell, hexstar
[12:39] <taime1> dystopianray: it isnt in my menus... do you know the command off hand?
[12:40] <dystopianray> taime1: nvidia-settings ?
[12:40] <x_> system79   oookk  and how about terminal commands ?! is that same ?!
[12:40] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: have you tried clicking on a pdf?
[12:40] <YossarianFan> crimsun, how much of your message do I type into Term?
[12:40] <hexstar> YossarianFan: that's weird
[12:40] <taime1> dystopianray: i think thats it.. ill try it
[12:40] <crimsun> YossarianFan: the whole thing.  Copy and paste.
[12:41] <YossarianFan> Not yet. I've got a bunch of things in online storage and I started to download them until I realized I was completely lost as to how to install anything I downloaded. Let me go grab a pdf from cd
[12:41] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: pdfs 'just work', you don't need to install anything special, and adobe's reader is rather subpar
[12:41] <TTilus> situation with filenames, i've got iso-8859-15 (methinks) and looks like cd-burner would like to have utf-8, this guy probably has the same problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=95754
[12:41] <TTilus> suggestions?
[12:41] <YossarianFan> Alrighty then :)
[12:41] <abstrakt> ok
[12:41] <System79> x_: In the upper right corner you have a sound thingie right? a mixer
[12:41] <monty_> hello! does anybody know, if it is possible tu install ubuntu without monitor and keyboard. something like: i boot from the cd and then connect via ssh and do the installation?
[12:42] <akos> can someone please help me with a video driver install? glxinfo | vendor says that server glx vendor string: SGI (the other two are O.K., NVidia)
[12:42] <dystopianray> TTilus: cd burner should not care what the charset is
[12:42] <abstrakt> System79: hey, so what was that command?
[12:42] <ubuntu> hello everyone i have a rather urgent problem id like to see if anyone can help me with.  i am dual booting vista and ubuntu.....i was trying to install mandriva next to those.......but now my pc wont boot......i get some grub 17 error and thats it, also when i go into gparted it reports that the disk is completely empty with unallocated space....any ideas?
[12:42] <abstrakt> i don't see any of my drives already pre mounded in /mnt or in /media
[12:42] <hexstar> ukl;mkl
[12:42] <TTilus> dystopianray: apparently it does
[12:42] <YossarianFan> Now the ntfsprogs thing. I need to access the ntfsfix part so that enabling read/write with ntfs-3g doesn't lock up my hds. >_> *feels blonde*
[12:42] <dystopianray> TTilus: are you seeing some kind of error?
[12:42] <hexstar> abstrakt, well you know how to mount them in terminal I assume since you used linux for 5 years
[12:42] <abstrakt> System79: you only said one command, i take it you meant that i should mount my drive first and then copy the xorg.config over right?
[12:42] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: ntfsfix?
[12:42] <System79> abstrakt: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /media/hda/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:42] <YossarianFan> ty crimsun, btw
[12:43] <TTilus> dystopianray: "some files have invalid filenames"
[12:43] <System79> abstrakt: if you are running from the ubuntu live cd it should already be mounted
[12:43] <YossarianFan> UHm, I have the forum open somewhere..let me look
[12:43] <gizzo> anyone know of a good dock plug-in for beryl? i want something mimicking the x dock
[12:43] <trippndarift> Does anyone have a suggestion for a Media Catalog other than F-Spot?
[12:43] <akos> can someone please help me with a video driver install? glxinfo | vendor says that server glx vendor string: SGI (the other two are O.K., NVidia)
[12:43] <taime1> dystopianray: ah, i have a little bit older card, and noticed that i had the other proprietary driver installed, thus, nvidia-settings was not installed by default, but i was able to do so in synaptic, thanks for shining some light
[12:43] <jamierc> >stefg cheers, was more or less what I was thinking. That and the support
[12:43] <abstrakt> System79: k i thought so but they don't seem to be, /media is empty
[12:43] <dystopianray> TTilus: invalid characters?
[12:43] <x_> system79   yeah   i have
[12:43] <YossarianFan> If you don't dual boot, get ntfsfix from the ntfsprogs package, run it on the windows device, and add the 'force' option in /etc/fstab for your windows device.
[12:43] <dystopianray> taime1: ok yeah, nvidia-glx-legacy doens't come with nvidia-settings
[12:43] <YossarianFan> that^^
[12:43] <System79> x_: right click that and hit properties
[12:43] <hexstar> abstrakt: mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda
[12:43] <abstrakt> hexstar: and will you *please* stfu, god i don't wanna have to /ignore you in every client i use
[12:43] <JayRoe> dystopianray, I managed to do it with gnome-terminal --screen 1 -x xwit -warp 50 50. Thanks for your time :)
[12:43] <System79> x_: or double click it i dont reallly remember :$
[12:44] <Scunizi> How do I discover what the uuid of a drive is that is not mounted or in fstab?
[12:44] <hexstar> abstrakt: leave if you don't like FREE SUPPORT
[12:44] <abstrakt> hexstar: you're not giving me much support
[12:44] <stefg> !blkid
[12:44] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[12:44] <gizzo> kiba-dock anyone? cant find it in any of the repositories
[12:44] <hexstar> abstrakt: yeah I am, you're just choosing not to listen
[12:44] <Scunizi> Thanks stefg!
[12:44] <Theory> ffggg
[12:45] <System79> abstrakt: Have you mounted your harddisk by now?
[12:45] <hexstar> mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda
[12:45] <dystopianray> Scunizi: use vol_id on the device
[12:45] <x_> system79 ... dude ... double click ... i can see problem now ... that was it ... thanks for help dear :-*  ;-)
[12:45] <astro76> !language | abstrakt
[12:45] <ubotu> abstrakt: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:45] <hexstar> then cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /media/sda/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:45] <System79> x_: No problem :)
[12:45] <DarkSpecter> anyone familiar with atiixp who could help me get my spdif working ?
[12:45] <Scunizi> stefg, does blkid take the place of fdisk -l?  Tried that with zero results.
[12:46] <Davy_Jones> !stfu | abstrakt
[12:46] <ubotu> abstrakt: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[12:46] <TTilus> dystopianray: yes, invalid characters, '' and ''
[12:46] <NETWizz> I have a joke
[12:46] <Scunizi> dystopianray, how do you mean.... ? like in the Dapper days?
[12:46] <NETWizz> A guy sits at a bar with a new timepiece.
[12:46] <dystopianray> Scunizi: sudo vol_id /dev/blah
[12:46] <NETWizz> A women asks im about the watch.  She says, it is very fancy
[12:46] <stefg> Scunizi: fdisk -l list the partition table (in /dev/ -from) blkid just list the UUID of /filesystems/
[12:46] <Davy_Jones> !offtopic | NETWizz
[12:46] <ubotu> NETWizz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:46] <Scunizi> dystopianray, ah.. gotcha!
[12:46] <abstrakt> ok, reboot, bbiab
[12:47] <System79> See u soon =x
[12:47] <x_> system79 ... u know how many days and times i asked for it ... nobodies didn't know about that  untill tonight ... that was a BIG help  :-)
[12:47] <bEnN> does anyoneknow if there are cheatcodes for ubuntu at boot, like knoppix
[12:47] <System79> x_: No problem im here to help ;)
[12:47] <abstrakt> Davy_Jones: they're not? hmmm, funny that people in this channel were calling me a "noob" then, i figured the regulars here should know better
[12:47] <Scunizi> stefg, yet when I use fdisk -l nothing is returned.. It does on my dapper sys..
[12:47] <stefg> Scunizi: so if theres unpartitioned space you'll see it in fdisk -l but not in blkid
[12:47] <System79> bEnN: Check upon the ubuntu docs for kernel boot flags
[12:47] <dystopianray> bEnN: what exactly do you want to do?
[12:47] <juano__> anyone know how to fix the resolution in gfceu under GNOME in feisty ? i get a black square all around my games
[12:47] <stefg> Scunizi: ubse sudo
[12:47] <stefg> Scunizi: use *sudo* fdsik -l
[12:48] <TTilus> dystopianray: it lists all files having latin-1-only chars as being invalid (and no others) and there's alphanumeric 8+3 name listed as "invalid" also
[12:48] <Scunizi> stefg, that works.. thanks.
[12:48] <hexstar> abstrakt: if you weren't rude to people giving you free support
[12:48] <hexstar> ...
[12:48] <bEnN> dystopianray:im trying to boot into the liove cd, but it freezes, the only way ive been able to boot into a linux dist was with damn small linux using the cheatcode expert nopcmcia
[12:48] <System79> abstrakt: Just get over it, is your X fixed already?
[12:49] <bEnN> but i need a ubuntu equivilent
[12:49] <Davy_Jones> he's gone
[12:49] <dystopianray> bEnN: live hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false
[12:49] <bEnN> do i put that over whats already there?
[12:49] <System79> Bah
[12:49] <bEnN> when i press F6
[12:49] <dystopianray> bEnN: add the hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false part
[12:50] <System79> bEnN you put the flags (cheats) behind whats already there yes
[12:50] <System79> ;p
[12:50] <bEnN> o ok
[12:50] <trippndarift> Is there an app to make it easy to upload to Google Photos?
[12:50] <bEnN> ill go try that ty!!!
[12:50] <x_> system79 .. do u know which program i should use to wma and rm player ?!   i used real player and windows media player in windows ... but in linux i dono
[12:50] <dystopianray> trippndarift: picasa?
[12:50] <hexstar> trippndarift: there's picasa for linux
[12:50] <System79> x_: use totem with codecs
[12:50] <System79> x_: Or XMMS is always good :)
[12:50] <hexstar> x_: you need the codecs
[12:50] <Trashcan> having a little trouble setting a static IP from the cli... i set it up, i can ping my router, but i cant resolve any addresses
[12:50] <Trashcan> anyone know the magic touch?
[12:51] <Davy_Jones> x_: there are many.. totem, amarok, xmms, beep, helix
[12:51] <dystopianray> Trashcan: you haven't setup a nameserver
[12:51] <x_> system79 ... wich codecs ?! how i can get it ?!
[12:51] <stefg> !codecs
[12:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:51] <hexstar> Trashcan: have you setup dns servers?
[12:51] <System79> x_: Type in sudo apt-get install xmms <-- For Mp3
[12:51] <trippndarift> I was hoping to stay with OS
[12:51] <dystopianray> Trashcan: add the line 'nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>' to /etc/resolv.conf
[12:51] <System79> x_: Type in sudo apt-get install xmms <-- For Mp3 and Internet streams
[12:51] <trippndarift> I mean GNU
[12:51] <Trashcan> why <IP_ADDRESS>?
[12:51] <Scunizi> On boot fsck reports "failed to open the device uuid= yada yada". That device is actually sdb3 and is my kubuntu feisty install with reiserfs.  Why is the sys reporting this? and how do I stop it?
[12:51] <Trashcan> i tried <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:51] <Trashcan> and its got my Cox nameservers in resolv.conf
[12:51] <hexstar> Trashcan, you can get the nameservers from your isp...add the IP's then to /etc/resolv.conf
[12:51] <dystopianray> Trashcan: <IP_ADDRESS> should work for everyone, when that works you can replace it with whatever your dns server actually is
[12:51] <evilpooh> omg i have no idea what im doing LOL
[12:51] <adam820> x_: there's also VLC media player... it pretty much plays everything out of the box ( I don't know in Linux, but it does for Windows at least)
[12:51] <x_> system79  E: Couldn't find package xmm
[12:52] <Davy_Jones> Cox as in Alan Cox?
[12:52] <hexstar> x_: apt-cache search xmm
[12:52] <System79> x_: Type in sudo apt-get install xmms
[12:52] <abstrakt> w00t! score one for team do-it-your-self
[12:52] <abstrakt> i just *knew* that i shouldn't run that command when i saw it
[12:52] <ali> I ma having problems with wifi card? its just lost
[12:52] <unagi> !ntfs
[12:52] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:52] <unagi> !ntfs-3g
[12:52] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:52] <System79> abstrakt: what command?
[12:52] <juano__> does anyone know why when i run a nintendo rom with gfceu i cant get it to go fullscreen all the way, it just shows up in a little square in the middle ?
[12:52] <abstrakt> but i went against my leet instincts and did it anyway... i wanted to have faith in Ubuntu... is that so bad? but lo, i was fux0red
[12:52] <Trashcan> i added <IP_ADDRESS> and still get unknown host
[12:52] <juano__> this doesnt happen with zsnes, only fceu
[12:52] <evilpooh> ok i have a question with something. im sooo new to this! but ubuntu is not letting me connect to my wireless network?
[12:53] <abstrakt> System79, uhhh, sudo nvidia-config glx enable or some such thing like that
[12:53] <hexstar> Trashcan: you have to restart networking
[12:53] <x_> hexstar .. i got a laaaarg info
[12:53] <Trashcan> ah....
[12:53] <dystopianray> evilpooh: how is it not letting you?
[12:53] <abstrakt> System79, it says waht to run under the description of nvidia-glx in synaptic
[12:53] <Davy_Jones> !wireless | abstrakt
[12:53] <ubotu> abstrakt: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:53] <System79> abstrakt: whatever =x
[12:53] <unagi> can anyone tell me how to fix overlappign partitions?
[12:53] <hexstar> Trashcan: I think /etc/init.d/inetd restart will do it
[12:53] <abstrakt> System79, that's what b0rked my xorg.conf *and* also what was nice enough to fail to backup my old xorg.conf for me too
[12:53] <dystopianray> hexstar: that is wrong
[12:53] <System79> unagi: overlapping as iin?
[12:53] <abstrakt> i went in and changed the driver to 'nvidia' from 'nv' manually with vim, and poof
[12:53] <abstrakt> it works
[12:53] <System79> abstrakt: Thats the problem i have ;)
[12:53] <x_> system79 ... thanks .. and how i can have CODECS ?!
[12:54] <hexstar> dystopianray: it is, what should be done to restart networking then?
[12:54] <System79> !codecs | x_
[12:54] <Scunizi> unagi, gparted
[12:54] <ubotu> x_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:54] <unagi> overlapping as in gparted reporting 'cant have overlapping partitions' and showing unallocated space on the hd and grub not loading
[12:54] <jonalegend> juano_ usually is the default for that kind of emulator to use a windows size option 1, thas a little square
[12:54] <dystopianray> hexstar: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:54] <hexstar> oh
[12:54] <evilpooh> dys... when i configure my wireless setting it is just not seeing the connection or something
[12:54] <unagi> negative on the gparted
[12:54] <evilpooh> it just wont connect
[12:54] <abstrakt> System79, hehehe, yeah the problem that when you do things the automagic way you get screwed and when you do them manually like you know you should you're fine? yeah, that problem kinda bugs me
[12:54] <dystopianray> evilpooh: need to be more specific
[12:54] <TTilus> burner gives "Some files have invalid filenames" (and does not tell _why_ they are invalid), files having latin-1-only characters (such as '') and no others are listed as "invalid" so that's probably the cause, any suggestions?
[12:54] <abstrakt> that's what i meant by "Ubuntu sucks"
[12:54] <hexstar> unagi: fsck?
[12:54] <Scunizi> unagi, how'd you get overlapping partitions?  I thought that would be impossible.
[12:54] <jokull> is it ok to restart on a vserver ?
[12:55] <unagi> what is fsck
[12:55] <System79> abstrakt: You could better say linux sucks then ;z
[12:55] <unagi> i dont know how it happened but it happened
[12:55] <hexstar> unagi: fsck checks and repairs disk errors
[12:55] <Davy_Jones> unagi: filesystem check
[12:55] <evilpooh> dys can i pvt?
[12:55] <hexstar> unagi: you should run fsck
[12:55] <dystopianray> evilpooh: sure
[12:55] <akos> Can anyone help me with enableing nvidia direct rendering on a 8600 GS card?
[12:55] <unagi> fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
[12:55] <unagi> thats the output when i do fsck
[12:55] <abstrakt> System79, not really, linux is just a kernel, the gnu utilities a pretty small low level layer
[12:55] <abstrakt> System79, this is really the fault of the Ubuntu package management team
[12:55] <JC_Denton_> System79 u know where I can find system76 to ask about the ubuntu stickers I have been waiting on for weeks now?
[12:55] <x_> system79 ... i can't undrestand anything from that ... do u know some command for codecs ?!  it's short way in terminal ;-)
[12:55] <Littlegator> Why can I not install Ubuntu? argh, it keeps saying no root filesystem...
[12:56] <abstrakt> and given that Ubuntu is basically linux with fancy package management, that pretty much equates to Ubuntu sucking (at least in this regard)
[12:56] <unagi> any ideas?
[12:56] <hexstar> unagi: fsck -y /dev/drivename
[12:56] <System79> JC_Denton: System76? =x
[12:56] <abstrakt> Littlegator, well i know the answer, but because you were so friendly to me i don't think i'm gonna help you
[12:56] <hexstar> NOTE: do this from a live cd, do NOT do this while root drive is mounted
[12:56] <Littlegator> abstrakt: lol k
[12:56] <unagi> fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
[12:56] <unagi> fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
[12:56] <unagi> fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/sda4
[12:56] <Davy_Jones> Littlegator: sounds like partitioning problem
[12:56] <Littlegator> abstrakt: I have a drive set to / btw
[12:56] <JC_Denton_> system79 http://vntutor.blogspot.com/2007/06/get-free-ubuntu-stickers.html (sys76 according to here - send the guys my envelope but nothing for weeks now)
[12:56] <hexstar> abstrakt...grrr ><
[12:56] <System79> Littlegator: Ill help joo
[12:57] <abstrakt> velko, thank you thank you, i'm glad to be here... wow, what a crowd
[12:57] <System79> Littlegator: What is the problem?
[12:57] <unagi> hexstar: what does that mean
[12:57] <hexstar> unagi: don't do the ntfs partition, do the linux one on a live cd
[12:57] <unagi> i thought sda4 was the linux one
[12:57] <hexstar> unagi: no, what fsck said was that it can't check that drive because it's ntfs and it doesn't support ntfs
[12:57] <System79> Littlegator: What is the problem? Fine be like that :(
[12:57] <Trashcan> hexstar: i edited /etc/network/interfaces to remove the "dhcp" entry from the iface call, but it is complaining too few parameters
[12:57] <Davy_Jones> sda is an external disk.. why would you wanna install ubuntu on that?
[12:57] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> he folks
[12:57] <Trashcan> how would i go about telling it NOT to use dhcp?
[12:57] <Littlegator> system79: a lot of typing >_>
[12:58] <unagi> so how do i figure out which one is the linux partition
[12:58] <System79> Littlegator: If you dont tell me whats wrong i cant help you ;)
[12:58] <hexstar> unagi: to find your linux drive while in linux open a terminal and do df -h, look to the right for  /, then to the far left in the same column to find drive name, then reboot in live cd and do fsck -y /dev/drivename
[12:58] <abstrakt> hmmm
[12:58] <abstrakt> the NTFS drivers though do work quite nicely
[12:58] <juano__> does anyone know why when i run a nintendo rom with gfceu i cant get it to go fullscreen all the way, it just shows up in a little square in the middle ?
[12:58] <juano__> this doesnt happen with zsnes, only fceu
[12:58] <unagi> ah
[12:58] <unagi> sda3
[12:58] <Civik> stefg : you here?
[12:58] <unagi> ty
[12:58] <abstrakt> that's a surprise... so maybe Ubuntu only half sucks :P
[12:58] <Davy_Jones> unagi: sudo fdisk -l
[12:58] <hexstar> unagi: np :)
[12:59] <velko> abstrakt, you're again after proprietary stuff which does not work, does you?
[12:59] <System79> abstrakt: which distro doesnt suck in your eyes? :-)
[12:59] <YossarianFan> ok, so in Terminal I typed: wine /local/to/exe.exe and it told me: wine: cannot find '/local/to/exe.exe'
[12:59] <abstrakt> System79, none of them :P
[12:59] <hexstar> System79: windowz
[12:59] <abstrakt> System79, Ubuntu is the least of all the evils
[12:59] <Tidus> abstrakt, any distro is going to have its issues
[12:59] <System79> abstrakt: then better stick to winblows
[12:59] <Littlegator> System79: I have 3 drives set in step 5 of the installation manager on an edgy livecd. I have drive 1 set to mount point "/" as a 4GB drive. I have drive 2 set to mount point "/media/hda4" on a 33GB drive. I have drive 3 set to mount point "swap" on a 1GB drive.
[12:59] <abstrakt> hexstar, dude you guys are preaching to the choir man
[12:59] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: you have entered the wrong path to the file
[12:59] <superkirbyartist> How do I increase the volume in Audacity?
[12:59] <Littlegator> System79: it gives me the error "no root filesystem"
[12:59] <YossarianFan> I figured that much
[12:59] <juano__> ikonia: hi
[12:59] <abstrakt> System79, please don't start with the windows crap
[12:59] <YossarianFan> I'm blonde, it's bound to happen
[01:00] <hexstar> abstrakt what? I don't understand your rambling
[01:00] <Davy_Jones> abstrakt: really, just because you can use ubuntu doesn't mean you have toi
[01:00] <unagi> ok i ran it on both ext3 partitions and gparted still says overlapping partitions
[01:00] <Davy_Jones> to
[01:00] <ikonia> juano__: yes
[01:00] <System79> Littlegator: Are you using fdisk to make your partitions?
[01:00] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar: not sure.. but for some reason why i can't resise anything on my desktop?...
[01:00] <ikonia> I was just going to bed
[01:00] <abstrakt> Davy_Jones, what!? really! i don't HAVE to!? no way!
[01:00] <superkirbyartist> How do I increase the volume in Audacity?

[01:00] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: you don't litterally type 'local/to/exe.exe' you substitute the actual path and filename
[01:00] <Littlegator> system79, I used the partition editor in the installer...
[01:00] <evilpooh> what was the link to the wireless info?
[01:00] <Civik> Anyone know where StefG went???????
[01:00] <Davy_Jones> yeah, stick with windows
[01:00] <juano__> ikonia: do you know why fullscreen with gfceu wont work well
[01:00] <superkirbyartist> How do I increase the volume in Audacity?
[01:00] <abstrakt> dude, stfu
[01:00] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: what, you're trying to resize a mounted volume?
[01:00] <Trashcan> SUCCESS, just had to do "iface eth0 inet static ..."
[01:00] <unagi> abstrakt: you arent very nice
[01:00] <Davy_Jones> !wireless | evilpooh
[01:00] <ubotu> evilpooh: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:00] <abstrakt> quit telling me to "stick with windows" i know wtf i'm doing aight? chill
[01:00] <System79> Littlegator: what file system did you chose to use?
[01:00] <dystopianray> juano__: probably best asking the gfceu developers
[01:00] <YossarianFan> ...how am I supposed to know the path and filename when I don't know where it is? ;_;
[01:00] <superkirbyartist> How do I increase the volume in Audacity?
[01:00] <abstrakt> unagi, no i'm not
[01:00] <astro76> !ops | abstrakt
[01:00] <ubotu> abstrakt: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[01:00] <ikonia> juano__: with out investigating, not a clue
[01:00] <hexstar> !stfu | abstrakt
[01:00] <ubotu> abstrakt: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel.  I just clicked install under Syn
[01:01] <Davy_Jones> velko: but probably him "knowing" linux makes him think he's above everybody
[01:02] <unagi> thats the output hexstar
[01:02] <System79> abstrakt: The fact that you are an advanced unix user doesnt mean you can talk to other people like that
[01:02] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: oh...not sure
[01:02] <YossarianFan> SYnaptic
[01:02] <superkirbyartist> How do I increase the volume in Audacity?
[01:02] <superkirbyartist> This is easier to do in Windows Sound Recorder.
[01:02] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> haha sall good i know ya busy..
[01:02] <YossarianFan> methinks mah keyboard lags. ._.
[01:02] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: no i mean, where is the file you are trying to run?
[01:02] <System79> abstrakt: If you want to brag about how bad things are, go to #rantandinsult or something
[01:02] <YossarianFan> I'm trying to run WIne
[01:02] <hexstar> oh unagi: fsck -yf /dev/drive
[01:02] <superkirbyartist> Scunizi: No, simply increasing the volume of an already-written file.
[01:02] <YossarianFan> I don't know where it is :(
[01:02] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: you just type 'wine'
[01:03] <superkirbyartist> I download podcasts and they are 10 times softer than songs.
[01:03] <System79> Littlegator: May i suggest you to use Ubuntu Feisty fawn 7.04, it has a better way of partitioning
[01:03] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> this is odd since i install what i installed.. .done nothing else but reboot..now i cant change any size of any box i open.. being a program and webpage anything
[01:03] <hexstar> abstrakt is just full of himself and is inconsiderate of people providing free support
[01:03] <tannerld> how can I change what category a app. is in in the Applications menu?
[01:03] <System79> Littlegator: Otherwise please run the auto partitioner ;x
[01:03] <superkirbyartist> Littlegator: Use Vista it's the best.
[01:03] <YossarianFan> ok
[01:03] <velko> Davy_Jones, i don't see it this way. he followed some instructions about installing some nvidia crap and this borked his xorg.conf without backup. this was the cause for his first rant. this is really and ubuntu packaging problem. and as he said that ubuntu sucks, everybody here got offended
[01:03] <unagi> ok hexstar its running pass 1
[01:03] <nikin> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: did you install beryl?
[01:03] <YossarianFan> did that...I got this error: wine PROGRAM [ARGUMENTS...]
[01:03] <YossarianFan> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\PROGRAM.exe": Module not found
[01:03] <YossarianFan> oops, sorry
[01:03] <hexstar> unagi: ok :)
[01:03] <nalioth> hexstar: let us be civil
[01:03] <unagi> this takes a little while right?
[01:03] <superkirbyartist> Scunizi?
[01:03] <abstrakt> System79, i don't talk to people "like that" because I'm an advanced *nix user, i talk to them like that because A) i'm kind of an ass (yes i admit it) and B) they condescend towards me after i let them know i'm not just some fool newbie wheras people like you and velko actually try to provide help that is well targeted to my experience level
[01:03] <Scunizi> superkirbyartist, if the volume controls in Audacity are already turned up all the way you will want to look at the master volume. You could also right click the master volume of the system and choose "Open Volume cont." Play with the slides there.
[01:03] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: you typed 'wine PROGRAM.exe' ?
[01:04] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> Nikin: ya along time ago..
[01:04] <hexstar> unagi: yes it does
[01:04] <abstrakt> System79, *that* is why i speak "like that"
[01:04] <unagi> abstrakt: you do realize that this is an irc channel and no one is impressed right?
[01:04] <Littlegator> system79: I have no means of getting a live cd other than a 6 week wait for delivery. By that time, I'll have a fedora core live CD and be using that instead. Also, I'm not using the auto partitioner. I have about 180GB of personal data on this drive and I'm not risking any of it.
[01:04] <YossarianFan> lemme try again
[01:04] <JayRoe> can someone tell me how I can remove the gnome panels permanently?
[01:04] <abstrakt> unagi, back at you buddy
[01:04] <Trashcan> WOOT, i have a LAMP server running :)
[01:04] <Trashcan> rebooted from ssh
[01:04] <nalioth> !tell abstrakt about guidelines
[01:04] <hexstar> abstrakt: glad you can admit you're an ass
[01:04] <unagi> im not trying to impress anyone abstrakt
[01:04] <superkirbyartist> Scunizi, if I increase the Gain, will it do anything?
[01:04] <nikin> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: type alt+f2 and there >    metacity --replace
[01:04] <dystopianray> Trashcan: why did you need to reboot it?
[01:04] <nickrud> nalioth, I do not envy you your job
[01:04] <sauvin> Littlegator, if you're on the Internet now, why do you hvae no means of getting another CD image?
[01:04] <nikin> that will fix it tilol next reboot
[01:04] <YossarianFan> Same message: wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\program.exe": Module not found
[01:04] <BeOSMrX> how do I mount my usb camera ive searched google, tired gtkam, digikam and nothing works. and no one is helping on mandriva channel
[01:04] <Trashcan> i was just testing ssh, dystopianray
[01:04] <System79> Littlegator: Then good luck further cause i cant help you :)
[01:04] <unagi> ugh i didnt know trying to install mandriva would mess so much up
[01:04] <abstrakt> dude i'm gone
[01:04] <Littlegator> k
[01:04] <Scunizi> superkirbyartist, or were you really asking how to increase the imbedded volume level of the file.?
[01:04] <unagi> bye abstrakt
[01:05] <Trashcan> you wont be missed :O
[01:05] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: program.exe doesn't exist
[01:05] <superkirbyartist> Scunizi, yes.
[01:05] <YossarianFan> well
[01:05] <System79> Abstrakt: I actually enjoy talking to people like you =p
[01:05] <YossarianFan> is it wine.exe?
[01:05] <Scunizi> superkirbyartist, hang on a sec..
[01:05] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: 'wine' that's it, just type 'wine' and press enter
[01:05] <YossarianFan> I did
[01:05] <System79> Yossarian
[01:05] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: it should not be asking about any executable files
[01:05] <YossarianFan> it gave me a list of commands
[01:05] <abstrakt> System79, hehe, thanks, i actually enjoy talking to people like you, so... at least we have each other... </touchingmoment>
[01:05] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: that's normal
[01:05] <superkirbyartist> System79 use Vista it has all the features you asked for free and IE 7 is not integrated and can be easily removed.
[01:05] <System79> YossarianFan: whar are u trying to run
[01:06] <YossarianFan> the one for run: Usage: wine PROGRAM [ARGUMENTS...]    Run the specified program
[01:06] <YossarianFan> I entered that
[01:06] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: now what program do you want to install using wine?
[01:06] <ikonia> !wine >yossarianFan
[01:06] <ikonia> YossarianFan: read the link ubotu sent you
[01:06] <unagi> pass 2 checking directory structure
[01:06] <YossarianFan> uTorrent and uBook
[01:06] <IndyGunFreak> YossarianFan: do what it says, wine "path/to/file/program.exe"
[01:06] <jeremie> \join #cairo
[01:06] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: download the utorrent installer
[01:06] <System79> YossarianFan: The syntax is wine <program you want to run>
[01:06] <TTilus> nautilus burner gives "Some files have invalid filenames" (and does not tell _why_ they are invalid), files having latin-1-only characters (such as '') and no others are listed as "invalid" so that's probably the cause, any suggestions?
[01:06] <System79> YossarianFan: The syntax is wine <program you want to run>
[01:06] <YossarianFan> ahh
[01:06] <YossarianFan> I get it now
[01:06] <dystopianray> then, assuming it is called 'utorrent.exe' run... 'wine utorrent.exe'
[01:06] <YossarianFan> ._.
[01:06] <YossarianFan> My apologies
[01:07] <TTilus> any easy way to rename files from latin-1 names to utf-8 names
[01:07] <unagi> hexstar: it apparently fixed something but gparted still doesnt show the partitions.....do i need to run it on all ext3 partitions?
[01:07] <BeOSMrX> how do I mount my usb camera ive searched google, tired gtkam, digikam and nothing works. and no one is helping on mandriva channel
[01:07] <YossarianFan> brb
[01:07] <ikonia> BeOSMrX: this is ubuntu support - not mandriva
[01:07] <abstrakt> ahhhh, irc_conf_mode = 1, much better
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> BeOSMrX: are you trying to mount it on Mandriva?
[01:07] <BeOSMrX> IndyGunFreak: yes
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> BeOSMrX: ok.. why'd youc ome here?
[01:08] <dystopianray> BeOSMrX: we cannot help with mandriva here
[01:08] <unagi> hexstar: gparted still says overlapping partitions
[01:08] <milllmannn> anyone here use godaddy for the domains?
[01:08] <superkirbyartist> How do I install the SpySheriff spyware remover on Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn?
[01:08] <dystopianray> milllmannn: i have used godaddy
[01:08] <ikonia> milllmannn: is it anything to do with ubuntu ?
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> BeOSMrX: try the mandriva forum http://www.linuxquestions.org
[01:08] <superkirbyartist> Skunzi?
[01:08] <BeOSMrX> because some users here know lots about linux, not just ubuntu and they usually end up by helping me and the mandriva support resources never help
[01:09] <nadu> how do i mount an mdf file
[01:09] <nalioth> BeOSMrX: or #mandriva
[01:09] <dystopianray> superkirbyartist: what spyware are you hoping to remove?
[01:09] <Scunizi> superkirbyartist, glad your back... choose "edit" + "select all" then "Effect" + "Amplify".  That will allow you to increase the db of the track
[01:09] <ikonia> BeOSMrX: this is ubuntu support - not mandriva
[01:09] <milllmannn> I need help on how to have everything to do with a domain forwarded to my ubuntu server
[01:09] <moox> hi guys. I've installed bind9 on feisty on my localnetwork but it is very slow...any idea how I can customize that ?
[01:09] <ikonia> milllmannn: mail godaddy support
[01:09] <Trashcan> is it possible to map a folder on macos to a folder on my ubuntu machine?
[01:09] <nadu> Can anybody help me mount a mdf file
[01:09] <Trashcan> for instance, a pub folder for apache
[01:09] <ikonia> moox: your network is slow or bind is slow
[01:09] <dystopianray> Trashcan: yes, mount an nfs or smb share
[01:09] <unagi> anyone know how to fix overlapping partitions?
[01:09] <Trashcan> alright thanks dystopian, ill look into nfs
[01:09] <ikonia> unagi: sort the spacing/sizing out
[01:09] <unagi> by doing?
[01:09] <moox> ikonia: only bind
[01:10] <nalioth> Trashcan: OSX yes, OS9 or before, probably not
[01:10] <erUSUL> !iso | nadu
[01:10] <ubotu> nadu: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[01:10] <superkirbyartist> Dystopianray: I need to remove the spyware which transfers system info to Canonical.  Did you visit SpySheriff.com yet?
[01:10] <ikonia> moox: degine slow
[01:10] <dystopianray> nadu: just mount it like any other iso
[01:10] <ikonia> unagi: sorting the space out so partiitons don't over lap
[01:10] <unagi> ikonia how do you do that without using gparted
[01:10] <Scunizi> unagi, can you use gparted and shrink one of the partitions so it's not overlapping?
[01:10] <BeOSMrX> doesn't matter what you think ikonia, nalioth beucase some people hang out here to help anyone
[01:10] <ikonia> unagi: what tool are you using
[01:10] <dystopianray> superkirbyartist: there is no such spyware on your system
[01:10] <TTilus> any easy way to rename files from latin-1 names to utf-8?
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> superkirbyartist: just disable that option, its not spyware anyways
[01:10] <ikonia> BeOSMrX: the rules of the channel are ubuntu support only
[01:10] <unagi> im not using any tool because since there are overlapping partitions gparted isnt reporting the partitions
[01:10] <dystopianray> superkirbyartist: and that is a windows program
[01:10] <unagi> its reporting unallocated space across the board
[01:10] <moox> ikonia: it takes several seconds to get the IP . with opendns it is very quick. Ping with my dns server is normal
[01:10] <ShackJack> unagi: You can use gaprted for that - just have to boot from live cd and unmount drives :)
[01:10] <superkirbyartist> SpySherrif is FREE!
[01:10] <taime1> dystopianray: in edgy, the nvidia-settings allowed me to control all kinds of things such as digital vibrance. however, i just installed nvidia-settings in feisty, and it has almost No options, what gives?
[01:10] <unagi> im on the live cd
[01:11] <johny5> Ok, I'm having some problems with getting Ubuntu onto a Raid 1 system.  First I was gett Grub error 15 messages on boot.  I reinstalled and now I'm getting Grub 17 error messages.  Can anyone help?
[01:11] <unagi> gparted doesnt work
[01:11] <superkirbyartist> Just kidding guys.  SpySheriff is a rogue.
[01:11] <unagi> because of overlapping partitions
[01:11] <dystopianray> taime1: are you using the nvidia driver?
[01:11] <ikonia> moox: I see - thats interesting, hows your reverse lookups for your local network setup ?
[01:11] <taime1> dystopianray: yes
[01:11] <unagi> any other ideas ShackJack ikonia Scunizi
[01:11] <dystopianray> taime1: well I don't know what else would be the problem
[01:11] <superkirbyartist> DO NOT DOWNLOAD SPYSHERIFF YOUR ENTIRE WINE FOLDER WILL BE AFFECTED AND DESTROYED!
[01:11] <moox> ikonia: you means dns reverse ? I do not use that yet
[01:11] <JayRoe> can someone tell me how I make permanent changes to ubuntus configuration tool?
[01:12] <ikonia> moox: thats potentially one of the reasons, if you can't be bothered to set it up, just put entries in the servers host file
[01:12] <Scunizi> unagi, pull pin with teeth, count to 5, throw grenade into machine and RUN
[01:12] <ikonia> JayRoe: which tool ?
[01:12] <nickrud> JayRoe, could you be more specific?
[01:12] <BeOSMrX> how to mount my camerea, im using mandriva and asking in #ubuntu so too bad
[01:12] <dystopianray> BeOSMrX: this is not mandriva support
[01:12] <ikonia> BeOSMrX: its against the channels guidelines
[01:12] <moox> ikonia: I'll add now a reverse db for bind, wait a sec
[01:12] <Scunizi> unagi, :)
[01:12] <unagi> ok im serious about this.......i really would not like to have to reinstall ubuntu and reconfigure everything again
[01:12] <unagi> =(
[01:12] <ikonia> unagi: you've asked like 100 times - just wait a minute
[01:12] <unagi> i cant boot into vista or ubuntu because of a grub error
[01:13] <ikonia> unagi: there are other people wnating help
[01:13] <superkirbyartist> Scunizi: Amplify doesn't make it louder.
[01:13] <JayRoe> ikonia and nickrud, I'm trying to remove the gnome panels on my tv-out, but it only works till I reboot. I'm talking about gconf-editor.
[01:13] <tannerld> how can I change what category a app. is in in the Applications menu?
[01:13] <unagi> im sure i screwed it up by trying to install mandriva.....so all im really trying to do is delete the mandriva partition
[01:13] <taime1> dystopianray: i guess its not a big deal... i did notice hoever, that in synaptic, the glx driver has my card listed, but if i install it, i cant seem to use it... i only seem to be able to 'use' the glx-legacy driver because it enables using the restricted driver manager... is there a way to install that other driver and enable it instead?
[01:13] <ikonia> unagi: it doesn't work like that, if you have overlapping partitions your paritions table is screwed
[01:13] <dystopianray> taime1: why aren't you able to use the other driver?
[01:13] <erUSUL> tannerld: right click on the menu; choose edit menu
[01:13] <SoulPropagation> Hi, I'm trying to copy a Windows install from an aging hard drive to one in good shape using ddrescue, should I ask about that here or in ##windows
[01:14] <ikonia> unagi: deleting the mandrivva parition won't fix that
[01:14] <Scunizi> superkirbyartist, it should increase the db gain of the track.  Beyond that I'm stumped.. works for me.
[01:14] <shawn34> Is there another menu i can install into the panel? kinda like the slab menu, but more robust?
[01:14] <IndyGunFreak> SoulPropagation: what do you think?
[01:14] <unagi> meaning what......i HAVE to start over?
[01:14] <dystopianray> SoulPropagation: what filesystem is it?
[01:14] <SoulPropagation> dystopianray: NTFS
[01:14] <ikonia> unagi: if your partition table/data is messed up
[01:14] <superkirbyartist> Who has heard of Mr. Clean?
[01:14] <superkirbyartist> Well now there's Mr. Antispy!
[01:14] <taime1> dystopianray: well, because i dont know how to enable it... the only way i know how to enable the nvidia driver is through restricted driver manager and it only lists glx-legacy... but i want glx...
[01:14] <dystopianray> SoulPropagation: use ntfsclone which i believe comes with ntfs-3g
[01:14] <IndyGunFreak> is it just me, or are more and more idiots visiting #ubuntu?
[01:14] <ikonia> superkirbyartist: can you stop talking nonsens please
[01:14] <SoulPropagation> dystopianray: ok, thanks
[01:14] <nickrud> JayRoe, system->prefs->sessions, tab current session: select gnome-panel, and set style to normal, then killall gnome-panel
[01:14] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: its not just you
[01:15] <dystopianray> taime1: to enable the driver you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf so it uses 'nvidia' rather than 'nv'
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: well, i figured you agreed with me...lol
[01:15] <nalioth> IndyGunFreak: ikonia: let us be civil
[01:15] <dystopianray> InfestedTemplar: it's not just you
[01:15] <Falstius> IndyGunFreak: using a linux tool to fix windows ... it is a tossup :)
[01:15] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: you didn't even have to ask ;)
[01:15] <ikonia> nalioth: I am
[01:15] <gizzo> guys is there anything better than kiba-dock?
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[01:15] <BeOSMrX> acutally I just read the irc guide and code of conduct and it doesnt say I cant ask for help, rather it says to give me help
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> Falstius: well, id idn't get the impression he was using Linux to fix Windows, he just wanted to fix WIndows.
[01:15] <taime1> dystopianray: ill make sure it is using nvidia
[01:15] <ikonia> BeOSMrX: just stop asking about mandriva - join #mandriva and ask there
[01:15] <hexstar> nalioth why were you banningm me?
[01:16] <SoulPropagation> I use whatever tool works best for what I'm using it for, be it Windows, *nix, or one of those stupid triangle head screwdrivers
[01:16] <unagi> how do i enable universe repositories?
[01:16] <superkirbyartist> If I install a windows spyware and run it with Wine will it affect my computer?
[01:16] <Falstius> IndyGunFreak: ddrescue is a linux tool, probably on the liveCD
[01:16] <dystopianray> taime1: to get nvidia working, all you ever need to do is install the correct glx package nad change 'nv' to 'nvidia' in xorg.conf
[01:16] <nalioth> !tell hexstar about guidelines
[01:16] <captainm> gizzo: I like avant window navigator
[01:16] <JayRoe> nickrud what style do I set to normal? And won't this just reactivate the panels on the next boot?
[01:16] <moox> ikonia: seams better ! But I don't understand why, can you quickly explain me why ?
[01:16] <shawn34> Is there another menu i can install into the panel? kinda like the slab menu, but more robust?
[01:16] <ShackJack> unagi: Admin - > Software Sources..
[01:16] <JayRoe> nickrud nevermind, I got it.
[01:16] <unagi> ty
[01:16] <nickrud> JayRoe, <backspaces> :)
[01:16] <SoulPropagation> Is there a tool that can help me stop misplacing my hard disks?
[01:17] <ikonia> moox: yeah sure, when you do a lookup it trys to get back tot he client it does the lookup on, it can try in certain configs to lookup the ip of the client doing the lookup, if thats not set it has to time out before it sends it to the client.
[01:17] <ikonia> moox: get it ?
[01:17] <dystopianray> SoulPropagation: what do you mean?
[01:17] <Lattyware> Trying to run UT2004 I get 'Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual' - but I have the nVidia drivers installed and runnign
[01:17] <taime1> dystopianray: yeah, i just tried that, and xorg.conf says its using nvidia, but two things tell me that the driver wasnt loaded, glxgears didnt work, and beryl didnt load
[01:17] <JayRoe> nickrud, I've set it to normal now. Did restart mean that it would start on reboot or that it would start itself again if closed?
[01:17] <dystopianray> taime1: have you restarted X since changing that line to nvidia?
[01:17] <SoulPropagation> dystopianray: I was kidding. ^_^ I keep losing one of the hard disks I'm working with in my giant pile of electronics stuff
[01:18] <taime1> dystopianray: it was already nvidia
[01:18] <ikonia> SoulPropagation: this is a busy channel, can you stop talking nonsense please
[01:18] <BeOSMrX> ikonia: maybe you should stop telling me what to do unless you're a channel operator
[01:18] <taime1> dystopianray: im baffles
[01:18] <taime1> dystopianray: im baffled**
[01:18] <dystopianray> SoulPropagation: I was going to suggest /dev/disk/*
[01:18] <ikonia> BeOSMrX: just show rspect for the rules
[01:18] <sauvin> BeOSMrX, if you don't want to be forcibly removed, please behave.
[01:18] <nickrud> JayRoe, you're right, it will restart. install sabayon, with that you can manage the default panel settings, which get read when you boot up. Sorry
[01:18] <abstrakt> do i need to do anything special to get mp3 support etc?
[01:18] <abstrakt> are there external media repos or something?
[01:19] <BeOSMrX> no, maybe you should show respect, I read the rules and im not breaking any
[01:19] <ikonia> abstrakt: make sure you have the codecs installed
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> abstrakt: other than codecs?
[01:19] <JayRoe> nickrud, thanks :)
[01:19] <hexstar> you need codecs to use mp3's
[01:19] <abstrakt> ikonia, k, what package do i need? what's it called?
[01:19] <ikonia> BeOSMrX: this is UBUNTU support - not mandriva, stop pushing mandriva help
[01:19] <abstrakt> apt-get install ....
[01:19] <ikonia> abstrakt: depends on what codec you want
[01:19] <dystopianray> abstrakt: you do not need any external repos for mp3 support
[01:19] <Tidus> !codecs | abstrakt
[01:19] <ubotu> abstrakt: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:19] <joeamined> hi
[01:19] <moox> ikonia: yes I think. Now, it works great for the internal hosts but it is still a bit slow when I try to access hosts outside of my network. I guess the client computer on my network should "automatically register" itself in the DNS. Is that right ?
[01:19] <jessica> hey, has anyone got keychain going in here in such a manner that it starts automagically at boot?
[01:19] <BeOSMrX> please stop trolling ikonia
[01:20] <ikonia> BeOSMrX: I'm not trolling ??? I'm asking you to stop discussing Mandriva support requests
[01:20] <joeamined> is it possible to get the quicktime plugin for firefox in ubuntu ?
[01:20] <christen> Hi. I'm trying to get a scanner to work. It's on and connected to the USB port, but I don't know how to get Ubuntu to recognize it.
[01:20] <abstrakt> BeOSMrX, does #mandriva not exist?
[01:20] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> who was it that gave me that command for beryl?  ( nickrud??
[01:20] <ikonia> moox: are you using dynamic dns ?
[01:20] <BeOSMrX> which is trolling because its not against the rules and you're being rude to me
[01:20] <Lattyware> Trying to run UT2004 I get 'Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual' - but I have the nVidia drivers installed and runnign
[01:20] <nickrud> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v, nope, I'd remember your nick
[01:20] <ikonia> BeOSMrX: I'm not being rude and the rules are the channel int he topic are for UBUNTU support
[01:20] <hexstar> moox: if you're on dynamic dns using dyndns.com will work
[01:20] <dystopianray> joeamined: you can watch quicktime videos if you install the correct codec
[01:20] <Lattyware> BeOSMrX: It's obviously not what this channel is for, get some common sense.
[01:20] <sauvin> !ops BeOSMrX refuses to understand the rules
[01:20] <moox> ikonia: dynamic dns ?
[01:20] <taime1> dystopianray: i also noticed that it doesnt seem to matter if i uninstall the driver, restricted driver manager thinks its still there and enabled. does it work apart from apt?
[01:20] <christen> Can anyone help me with a scanner?
[01:20] <nalioth> abstrakt: there are all kinds of external repos for Ubuntu.  we recommend you use the offical ones, though
[01:21] <dystopianray> taime1: just forget restricted-driver manager
[01:21] <ikonia> moox: yeah, your client registers its self dynamically with the dns server as it logs in
[01:21] <BeOSMrX> i read the rules, but there are trolls here that are making trouble against me
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> !scanner
[01:21] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[01:21] <rhombus> why does Ubuntu insist on having the installation CD present when I'm installing packages with apt-get or aptitude?
[01:21] <taime1> dystopianray: gladly
[01:21] <dystopianray> taime1: manually install whichever glx package you need
[01:21] <astro76> joeamined, you need w32codecs ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[01:21] <Flannel> rhombus: Because you haven't removed the CD from your repositories yet
[01:21] <taime1> dystopianray: i did that earlier
[01:21] <rhombus> I'm a Gentoo user. It doesn't insist on anything.
[01:21] <Tidus> rhombus, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the cd from the repos
[01:21] <moox> ikonia: so no, I haven't configured anything for that behavior
[01:21] <rhombus> Flannel: Is flannel soft?
[01:21] <rhombus> Tidus: thanks
[01:21] <dystopianray> rhombus: it shouldn't
[01:21] <Lattyware> BeOSMrX: It's not in the rules because it's obvious. Just because it doesn't say you can't, doesn't mean you can.
[01:21] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> i just ask a few mins ago about not being able to resize my boxes ( ie: programs, webpages,, anything and i was givin a command and just dont remember who gave that to me
[01:21] <ikonia> moox: ok - so your client wont' update dns on login
[01:21] <taime1> dystopianray: maybe reconfigure x afterwards?
[01:21] <shawn34> rhombus, because the cd repositories are active in your apt list
[01:21] <dystopianray> taime1: yes, try that
[01:21] <Lattyware> Trying to run UT2004 I get 'Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual' - but I have the nVidia drivers installed and running
[01:21] <rhombus> thanks
[01:21] <Tidus> !ops
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[01:22] <rhombus> wow, this is the most active IRC channel I have ever seen.
[01:22] <nalioth> BeOSMrX: please consider #mandriva or other mandriva support
[01:22] <taime1> dystopianray: i will, thanks
[01:22] <dystopianray> taime1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[01:22] <moox> ikonia: ok, but you think it is the problem here ?
[01:22] <ikonia> moox: ro be fair thats apretty reasonable advanced config
[01:22] <sauvin> Lattyware, have you verified that hardware acceleration is enabled on your machine?
[01:22] <panfist> is there a good article about cifs and how to use it in ubuntu? thanks
[01:22] <nalioth> Tidus: yes?
[01:22] <ikonia> moox: shouldn't be if you've updated your host file
[01:22] <SoulPropagation> Lattyware: you run glxgears?
[01:22] <BeOSMrX> i shouldn't be refused inclusion of this channel because of what I happen to use, and I did try the mandriva channel
[01:22] <ikonia> moox: the host file ont he server
[01:22] <Tidus> BeOSMrX refuses to understand this isn't #mandriva
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak> BeOSMrX: lol
[01:22] <unagi> how to i change the write permissions of my external drive from read-only?
[01:22] <dystopianray> BeOSMrX: install ubuntu, then we will help
[01:22] <Lattyware> SoulPropagation: I get 'Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual'
[01:22] <SoulPropagation> Lattyware: at least we know it's not UT
[01:22] <System79> unagi: chmod for lyph <3
[01:22] <nalioth> BeOSMrX: than perhaps ask a general question or join ##linux for non-distro-specific help
[01:23] <moox> ikonia: I've updated it but I've not put the client IP inside because the ip is provided by DHCP
[01:23] <ikonia> ahh got you
[01:23] <johny5> If I am doing the raid 1 system, and I leave two partitions (one on each disk) separate and install /boot on one, then use the raid software to copy it to the other, will I have problems?
[01:23] <Tidus> Lattyware, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "nv" in the video driver section to "nvidia"
[01:23] <unagi> chmod /media/External?
[01:23] <ikonia> in that case that could be a little bit o fthe slow down
[01:23] <Lattyware> Tidus: I said, I am using the nvidia drivers. That's not it.
[01:23] <Tidus> Lattyware, just because the nvidia drivers are installed doesn't mean xorg.conf gets updated automatically
[01:23] <Lattyware> I am using Xinerama, could that cause a problem?
[01:23] <Lattyware> Tidus: I know, but xorg is right.
[01:23] <DarkSpecter> anyone familiar with alsa and iec958 ?
[01:23] <BeOSMrX> i choose to use this channel because of the large amount of linux users, not just ubuntu and I have a better chance of getting support here
[01:23] <Lattyware> Tidus: I edited it myself.
[01:23] <unagi> my god this is annoying
[01:24] <SoulPropagation> BeOSMrX: ##linux
[01:24] <Lattyware> BeOSMrX: No you don't, because we know about ubuntu.
[01:24] <Tidus> you have to change nv to nvidia and go uncomment the load glx part
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> BeOSMrX: well, ##linux is fairly active to.
[01:24] <Xyc0> BeOSMrX: yes, ubuntu does have a lot of support
[01:24] <unagi> all i want to do is back up data from my ubuntu before i reformat
[01:24] <jessica> hey, has anyone got keychain going in here in such a manner that it starts automagically at boot?
[01:24] <rhombus> unagi is delicious.
[01:24] <ShackJack> uuu-naaaag-iiiii
[01:24] <nalioth> BeOSMrX: then please ask your support question (but try to ask in general terms)
[01:24] <JayRoe> nickrud, how do I edit the secondary screen?
[01:24] <hexstar> unagi: you don't have to reformat
[01:24] <Flannel> jessica: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager#head-41669d33dd37ace3464ac217a60ffac444fff514
[01:24] <unagi> thats not what everyone else is saying
[01:24] <DarkRamon> hello.. Im having some issues.. when I do glxinfo it seems my 3d acceleration is enabled... but trying to configure cedega, it gives me an error when trying the tests
[01:24] <BeOSMrX> okay I've diid my due research and work to try and make what I need to work allready
[01:24] <hexstar> unagi: did you run the fsck's?
[01:24] <jessica> Flannel: i'm not talking about network manager.
[01:24] <DarkRamon> it says that 3d acceleration is not enabled
[01:24] <unagi> i ran the commands u gave but i still have overlapping partitions
[01:24] <moox> ikonia: thanks for your help, I'll look a bit on google
[01:24] <System79> BeOSMrX:What do you need support on anyway
[01:24] <unagi> hexstar: yes
[01:24] <BeOSMrX> mounting my camera
[01:24] <ShackJack> unagi: gparted not working to resize those partitions? That's surprising...
[01:25] <ikonia> moox: no problem,glad you see what I'm saying
[01:25] <christen> Can anyone help me with a scanner?
[01:25] <jessica> Flannel: I'm talking about KEYRING. for caching SSH keys.
[01:25] <nickrud> JayRoe, I thought I knew this stuff, but I see I'm in need of a refresher. Luckily, I have nothing else to do
[01:25] <Lattyware> SoulPropagation/Tidus/sauvin: Any ideas as to why it isn't working
[01:25] <Falstius> BeOSMrX: in ubuntu your camera would just mount automatically.  I would expect the same in Mandriva.  Otherwise it is probably something like mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/camera  (you'll have to create /mnt/camera)
[01:25] <hexstar> unagi: oh, what did fsck say when done?
[01:25] <unagi> gparted doesnt show the partitions ShackJack
[01:25] <SoulPropagation> Lattyware: I'm all out
[01:25] <JayRoe> nickrud :D
[01:25] <Lattyware> SoulPropagation: OK, thanks anyway
[01:25] <ikonia> unagi: if your partition table is dead - you'll have to rebuild your disk system
[01:25] <unagi> everythign seemed to work fine hexstar
[01:25] <Falstius> BeOSMrX: or your camera doesn't have a standard USB HD interface (my brother's Nikon didn't, had to use an external card reader)
[01:25] <ShackJack> BeOSMrX: In unbuntu to mount your camera just plug it in. Can't speak for Mandriva :)
[01:25] <Tidus> Lattyware, have you checked to make sure the option to load glx is uncommented in xorg.conf, as well as leaving dri *COMMENTED*
[01:25] <hexstar> oh...then I guess your prtition table is dead
[01:25] <hexstar> ::(
[01:25] <unagi> ok....so now what
[01:25] <hexstar> :(
[01:25] <Lattyware> Tidus: Yes, definatly.
[01:25] <BeOSMrX> my camera says its USB mass storage in KDE info
[01:25] <sauvin> I can't talk knowledgeably about nvidia or UT; I had problems with ATI Radeon and can testify that there's a bit of configuring involved even though the drivers are downloaded and loaded.
[01:26] <Tidus> and you've changed the driver from nv to nvidia...
[01:26] <hexstar> well, get a external drive and move your /home over
[01:26] <Flannel> jessica: right, it's the same thing.  libpam-keyring is how you use your login (via pam) to autheticate your keyring
[01:26] <ShackJack> BeOSMrX: Your run KDE?
[01:26] <dystopianray> BeOSMrX: it should mount automatically
[01:26] <BeOSMrX> ya
[01:26] <DarkRamon> Im hanving some issues... when doing the glxinfo it shows that 3d acceleration is enabled. But when tyring the tests on cedega the only test that fails is the one of the 3d acceleration.. what could be happening?
[01:26] <unagi> i have an external drive and it wont let me write anything to it
[01:26] <joeamined> does mozilla-plugin-vlc package enable reading quicktime files in firefox ?
[01:26] <Tidus> as well as went out into the terminal, made sure the module nvidia is loaded "sudo modprobe nvidia"
[01:26] <nalioth> BeOSMrX: tried #kde ?
[01:26] <hexstar> unagi: try right clicking it and see if it says anything about making it readwrite
[01:26] <unagi> so can anyone help me figure this out?
[01:26] <ShackJack> BeOSMrX: Oy! At the very loeast you should be scamming in the kubuntu channel - ubuntu runs GNOME by default...
[01:26] <nalioth> BeOSMrX: or #kubuntu ?
[01:26] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> so ya the issue is i can't grab the corner of any box  ( ie: program, web pages .. yes i am using beryl
[01:27] <Falstius> unagi: is it formated ntfs?  Look into ntfs-3g
[01:27] <unagi> i have ntfs-3g installed
[01:27] <sauvin> Shack, I ran kde under ubuntu ten seconds after installing it.
[01:27] <BeOSMrX> well I installed autofs
[01:27] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: I believe that is a bug with beryl and some gfx cards unfortunately
[01:27] <BeOSMrX> but it wont restart, it says FAILED
[01:27] <abstrakt> or you guys could just /ignore BeOSMrX
[01:27] <hexstar> unagi: using a linux formatted partition would yield better results
[01:27] <Amon-san> hi, had a harddisk crash (winXP) and i want to save as many files as possible. what program would i use? curently operationg from a ubuntu installation i made on the fly on another disk
[01:27] <abstrakt> if it really bothers you that much, don't help him
[01:27] <unagi> i cant do that at the moment
[01:27] <Falstius> BeOSMrX: you shouldn't need autofs.  And that has to be configured for each drive I believe.
[01:27] <dystopianray> BeOSMrX: on ubuntu it will mount automatically
[01:27] <Lattyware> Could anyone help: glxgears fails, despite nVidia drivers being loaded (the logo shows). Xinemara with three screens, latest nVidia drivers from nVidia, and an 8600GTS and 7600GS.
[01:27] <unagi> i have important data on the drive
[01:27] <hexstar> Amon-san: just mount eh xp drive
[01:27] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hestar: ok i can live with that... ..sorta.. is there a fix?
[01:27] <nickrud> JayRoe, http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog/sabayon\
[01:27] <BeOSMrX> yeah, i am considering to install ubuntu
[01:27] <Amon-san> it won't mount
[01:28] <Amon-san> i get lots of read errors
[01:28] <jimqode> Lattyware, pastebin your xorg.conf
[01:28] <moox> ikonia: it is the problem ! I've put the current IP of the client into the DNS configuration and the time is now 50msec (before it was more that 4000msec)
[01:28] <unagi> so i have ntfs-3g installed and it still says i dont have permission to write to it....so now what
[01:28] <rhombus> how can a system not have a root user?
[01:28] <velko> BeOSMrX, search google for "your_camera_model linux" and see if it is supported at all. if you - find out which driver (kernel module) you need for it. after that load it "modprobe my_kernel_module". enjoy
[01:28] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: not that I know of...I ran into such troubles as well and could only find mentions of it being a bug and that people have reported it
[01:28] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstarL it just started to happen like right after i inalled them two pks
[01:28] <ikonia> moox: well done
[01:28] <ShackJack> rhombus: You don't you need one to do amdin stuff :)
[01:28] <Falstius> unagi: have you tried writing to it as root?  Did you check mount to see that it is mounted RW?
[01:28] <Tidus> Lattyware, lemme find my xorg.conf and it'll show you how i had my system set up with an nvidia running a monitor + tv as well as an old ati card for a second monitor...
[01:28] <sauvin> rhombus, are you talking about being unable to su - ?
[01:28] <unagi> ive tried sudo and it said omitting
[01:28] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: which two? the libssl ones?
[01:28] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> yeah
[01:28] <rhombus> sauvin: well, that... and just in general -- I thought the kernel required a root user.
[01:29] <Tidus> there's 2 ways of setting up xinerama with nvidia cards
[01:29] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: that's weird
[01:29] <Falstius> unagi: cp -r dir /media/disk-1  (or something like that)
[01:29] <Tidus> one is using xorg's method, the other is nvidia's twinview
[01:29] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar: verry
[01:29] <nalioth> rhombus: there are none of those in Ubuntu by default
[01:29] <rhombus> typing 'sudo' every time has a way of getting tedious
[01:29] <moox> bye
[01:29] <JayRoe> nickrud I can't find anything about changing the settings to be screen specific
[01:29] <ikonia> rhombus: sudo -i
[01:29] <Falstius> rhombus: sudo su -
[01:29] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> never b4 with this card have i had this issue
[01:29] <rhombus> nalioth: yeah, I get that -- but how is that even possible? How is that done, technically?
[01:29] <sauvin> Ubuntu DOES have a root user, but logging in AS root from an xterm isn't obvious :)
[01:29] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: I think it might just be coincidince because I can't think of a reason why beryl would rely on libssl
[01:29] <Lattyware> jimqode: http://pastebin.com/d5844f3ca
[01:29] <unagi> cp: cannot create directory `/media/External/ubuntu': Read-only file system
[01:29] <nalioth> rhombus: super user privileges via the 'sudo' command
[01:29] <Falstius> rhombus: it is easy, just don't set a root password.
[01:29] <ikonia> unagi: its mounted read only
[01:29] <rhombus> even sudo has to a refer to a rights profile -- where does it get that, if there's no root user?
[01:29] <Amon-san> hexstar: any other ideas?
[01:29] <nickrud> JayRoe, looking
[01:30] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar: i was thinknig the same thing... hummm
[01:30] <JayRoe> nickrud can I prevent gnome-panels from running at all?
[01:30] <unagi> and so i fix that by doing what ikonia
[01:30] <sveweck> hi. is there a package that I can install to get common webserver software like apache2 and php (analogous to build-essential for building)?
[01:30] <hexstar> unagi, right click drive and see if there's a make readwrite option?
[01:30] <rhombus> Flastius: so, there is a root user?
[01:30] <nalioth> rhombus: no
[01:30] <hexstar> there's a terminal command we can do too unagi
[01:30] <Falstius> unagi: you'll have to mount it manually ... what drive letter does it have?
[01:30] <Tidus> ok i see a problem right here
[01:30] <ikonia> unagi: I've told you about 4 times, if your partition tables are overlappying your data is worthless, so you'll have to rebuild
[01:30] <Sidlet> is there an extension for nautilus to view RAW images?
[01:30] <Falstius> rhombus: ofcourse.
[01:30] <Tidus> too many device sections
[01:30] <christen> Can anyone help with installing a scanner?
[01:30] <nalioth> rhombus: the first installed user has 'super user privileges'
[01:30] <Tidus> you only need ONE for each head
[01:30] <ikonia> unagi: if its mounting it read only and fsck won't fix it, that suggests there is a fatal problem
[01:30] <unagi> ok ikonia dont try to help anymore because you are confused
[01:30] <Falstius> unagi: er, drive name (/dev/sdb1 or some such)
[01:30] <rhombus> now I'm getting mixed messages here, which implies that nobody really knows
[01:30] <DarkRamon> hello?... It seems that my 3d acceleration with nvidia is working. it shows it on the glxinfo and on the nvidia-settings  . When trying to install cedega, it does some tests and all of them passed but the 3d acceleartion says failed
[01:30] <BeOSMrX> Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ10		SD/MMC	USB Mass Storage my camera is supported
[01:30] <ikonia> unagi: I'm not confused
[01:30] <jimqode> Lattyware, do you really have 2 video cards and 3 screens?
[01:30] <IndyGunFreak> unagi: lmao..
[01:30] <unagi> yea ikonia you are
[01:30] <Lattyware> jimqode: Yes.
[01:31] <nalioth> rhombus: technically, ALL *nix OS' have 'root users'
[01:31] <ikonia> I assure you I'm not
[01:31] <jessica> Flannel: i'm asking about caching ssh key passphrases. not wifi passwords
[01:31] <Tidus> Lattyware, there's part of the problem.  too many device sections.  only need one per head
[01:31] <rhombus> nalioth: that was my point
[01:31] <IndyGunFreak> unagi: i highly doubt ikonia is confused
[01:31] <unagi> ok then tell me what i am trying to do at the moment ikonia
[01:31] <Lattyware> Tidus: Yes, it appears to have created more devices.
[01:31] <Lattyware> odd.
[01:31] <rhombus> nalioth: so it must exist somewhere
[01:31] <ikonia> you've just mounted your disk onto /media
[01:31] <nalioth> rhombus: in Ubuntu the primary user has the same powers as 'root' via the 'sudo' command
[01:31] <dystopianray> sveweck: run 'sudo aptitude' then go to 'Tasks -> Unrecognised tasks -> lamp-server' and instlal that
[01:31] <Lattyware> I'll remove mine.
[01:31] <Lattyware> It's obviously happier with that
[01:31] <velko> rhombus, the root user is created but has no password per default. the first user can execute suuper user commands via "sudo command"
[01:31] <hexstar> well guys the thing is the read only drive is the external not the bad internal drives...
[01:31] <sparr> Can anyone recommend a mail client that can handle deleting old messages from the server while keeping them locally on an IMAP account?
[01:31] <Tidus> as well as too many screen sections
[01:31] <rhombus> yeah, I get that
[01:31] <Flannel> jessica: libpam-keyring is the interface between your keyring, and your login password.  Just because it's usually used in wifi doesn't mean that's the only place.
[01:31] <unagi> what is it i am trying to do ikonia since you arent confused
[01:32] <rhombus> what I don't get it is... how I could become the root user if I so desired
[01:32] <ShackJack> rhombus: And you can su root :)
[01:32] <Tidus> take twinview out of the options period
[01:32] <ikonia> unagi: your tyring to access your data and copy data around on /media that you've just mouonted a disk on
[01:32] <Tidus> breaks glx
[01:32] <BeOSMrX> i just don't understand where it is exactly, so I can mount it how do I know ?
[01:32] <velko> rhombus, sudo su
[01:32] <ikonia> BeOSMrX: you don't mount a camera
[01:32] <ShackJack> rhombus: Though I don't think you can use GNOME session as root...
[01:32] <nickrud> JayRoe, yes, use the remove button on the session window
[01:32] <Flannel> rhombus: Ubuntu doesn't use the root account.  But if you want a root shell, `sudo -i`
[01:32] <unagi> so what does the partition table have to do with my external drive
[01:32] <rhombus> wow
[01:32] <nalioth> rhombus: you'd need to install Ubuntu using the 'advanced mode' and enable the root account then
[01:32] <dystopianray> BeOSMrX: check dmesg
[01:32] <Falstius> unagi: just do 'sudo mount -o remount,rw -t ntfs3g /media/External
[01:32] <IndyGunFreak> unagi: lol, and you think ikonia is confused?
[01:32] <rhombus> it works
[01:32] <dystopianray> ikonia: you can mount a camera
[01:32] <rhombus> the sudo su, I mean
[01:32] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak:  I can't be bothered with it
[01:32] <jessica> Flannel: well then do you have any documentation that would assist me in setting it up to cache my RSA key passphrase?
[01:33] <dystopianray> ikonia: some will act like usb mass storage devices
[01:33] <rhombus> this root account is not borked? it will actually let me do things?
[01:33] <ikonia> dystopianray: you can, I agree
[01:33] <Tidus> Lattyware, take twinview out of the monitor's options as well
[01:33] <nalioth> rhombus: sudo su breaks things, and is redundant
[01:33] <ikonia> dystopianray: not his model though
[01:33] <nalioth> !tell rhombus about root
[01:33] <Lattyware> ok, everything sorted as you said
[01:33] <jessica> Flannel: I didn't see anything relevent in the documentation you gave me
[01:33] <Lattyware> restarting x.
[01:33] <Tidus> rhombus, if you need a root shell, just type sudo -i
[01:33] <BeOSMrX> dystopianray: it shows in dmesg
[01:33] <sveweck> dystopianray: well, I'm using Kubuntu (Adept is the package manager). Is lamp-server a metapackage? I can't find it as such...?
[01:33] <hexstar> So...unagi do mount -t ntfs -w /dev/drivename
[01:33] <BeOSMrX> usb-storage: device found at 4
[01:33] <JayRoe> nickrud, I don't have it in the start programs tab, I only have it under actual session. Does that matter?
[01:33] <rhombus> so, better to use sudo -i than sudo su
[01:33] <rhombus> ?
[01:33] <Tidus> yes
[01:33] <Pici> rhombus: es.
[01:33] <dystopianray> rhombus: they will both achieve the same effect
[01:33] <Pici> er, ye.s
[01:33] <hexstar> that will make it rw unagi
[01:33] <Falstius> nalioth: what does sudo su break?  (not arguing, just curious)
[01:33] <Xyc0> What is the testing channel?  -dev or testing
[01:33] <bruenig> or sudo -s
[01:33] <rhombus> how does sudo su break things?
[01:33] <dystopianray> rhombus: the root account is there, per usual, it just has no password
[01:33] <dystopianray> rhombus: it doesn't
[01:33] <bruenig> Xyc0, +1
[01:34] <rhombus> oh.
[01:34] <BaD_CrC> sveweck: yes, it's a meta package for apache, php & mysql
[01:34] <Falstius> hexstar: unagi: you need -t ntfs3d (-t ntfs will always be read only)
[01:34] <Pici> Xyc0: #ubuntu+1
[01:34] <dystopianray> rhombus: use whichever method you like
[01:34] <Falstius> er ntfs3g
[01:34] <nickrud> JayRoe, no, those are two different lists
[01:34] <Xyc0> thanks :D
[01:34] <hexstar> falstius: ah, wasn't sure what the specific one was for that driver thanks
[01:34] <rhombus> maybe I should switch to Ubuntu as my primary OS, since there are so many helpful people in the IRC channel :)
[01:34] <BeOSMrX> i think the camera is on `sda`
[01:34] <nalioth> Falstius: it breaks some functionality (otherwise, Ubuntu would have a standard root/user type system)
[01:34] <bruenig> what was the argument about sudo su, I didn't see it?
[01:34] <BaD_CrC> man, i really should do something constructive today besides sit here on my computer all day...
[01:34] <hexstar> BeOSMrX: there has to be a number, sda#
[01:34] <m1r> rhombus , thumb up
[01:35] <dystopianray> BeOSMrX: check dmesg
[01:35] <rhombus> This is the busiest IRC channel I have ever seen
[01:35] <BaD_CrC> procrastination... i'll quit procrastinating tomorrow.
[01:35] <rhombus> nuts
[01:35] <JayRoe> nickrud, I mean it's only in the actual sessions tab, but if I remove it from there, won't it just start again at the next boot?
[01:35] <ikonia> hexstar: not if its not a mass storage device and doesn't have a partition
[01:35] <unagi> hexstar:  that didnt work
[01:35] <unagi> see
[01:35] <ikonia> hexstar: ie - its a camera
[01:35] <velko> bruenig, i'm still curious why "sudo su" breaks things. i know it was not your point but some people here made it
[01:35] <BeOSMrX> i do I know exactly, like camera is on sda1
[01:35] <unagi> ikonia is confused
[01:35] <hexstar> what did it output unagi?
[01:35] <bruenig> velko, yes I am as well
[01:35] <ikonia> unagi: I assure you I'm not
[01:35] <captainm> BeOSMrX: dmesg | tail
[01:35] <unagi> a bunch of commands
[01:35] <nickrud> JayRoe, that session tab determines what gets run. It runs the items listed there at startup.
[01:35] <dystopianray> velko: there is nothing wrong with sudo su
[01:35] <velko> bruenig, and why?
[01:35] <hexstar> did you type it like I said?
[01:35] <BeOSMrX> dmesg | tail
[01:35] <bruenig> velko, I am with you here confused
[01:35] <unagi> the partitions are there ikonia
[01:35] <nickrud> JayRoe, nothing like testing
[01:36] <ikonia> unagi: I didn't say they where not
[01:36] <Tidus> nalioth, personally, i just unlock root and use su like normal ... sudo annoys me
[01:36] <velko> bruenig, ok. i misunderstood you
[01:36] <BeOSMrX>  sda: sda1
[01:36] <JayRoe> nickrud, I'm gonna give it a shot. brb
[01:36] <hexstar> unagi, first use umount to unmount the drive then do the mount command like I said
[01:36] <BeOSMrX> soits' sda1 then
[01:36] <YossarianFan> ok..so I go into Terminal and type 'ntfsfix' and it gives me options and this example: For example: ntfsfix /dev/hda6 --- I have two hard drives that need the 'If you don't dual boot, get ntfsfix from the ntfsprogs package, run it on the windows device, and add the 'force' option in /etc/fstab for your windows device.' option. One is showing in Computer as 'Local Disk' the other as '74.5 GB Volume: 80gig'
[01:36] <rhombus> Tidus: I would be with you there.
[01:36] <bruenig> a root user is necessary for somethings like cups web interface
[01:36] <unagi> so explain to me why i cant back up data before i reformat ikonia
[01:36] <nalioth> Tidus: to each their own
[01:36] <BaD_CrC> a.u.c is going slow today. i didn't see any updates.
[01:36] <bruenig> some things*
[01:36] <JayRoe> nickrud will it be disabled if I mark it as trash?
[01:36] <nickrud> first time I did an rm -rf in the wrong place, I installed sudo
[01:36] <Falstius> BeOSMrX: just because you're french doesn't mean you have to use Mandriva ;)
[01:36] <hexstar> unagi: s/he is simply saying that because the partition table is gone your data is probably toast
[01:36] <ikonia> unagi: if your partitions are overlapping there is a good probabilyt of file system corruption
[01:36] <BeOSMrX> mhat file system type do I mount the camera as ?
[01:36] <nalioth> rhombus: if you learn 'sudo' there is nothing lost
[01:36] <ShackJack> unagi: If you can mount the drive you should be able to back up :)
[01:37] <nalioth> rhombus: but there is a security increase
[01:37] <Tidus> i can use either method
[01:37] <YossarianFan> so how exactly what do I need to type in terminal to get the ntfsfix to work on each drive?
[01:37] <unagi> that doesnt make sense because im able to access the data
[01:37] <rhombus> sudo -i is the same as su, then?
[01:37] <nickrud> JayRoe, not necessary, I don't think. Just remove it from the list.
[01:37] <bruenig> also if you wanted to use something other than gdm, maybe slim which I prefer, you need a root user to shutdown and reboot from the login screen
[01:37] <ShackJack> unagi: Though yeah maybe some corruption there...
[01:37] <Falstius> BeOSMrX: probably vfat, but it should detect automatically
[01:37] <Tidus> rhombus, yes, sudo -i does the exact same thing as "su -"
[01:37] <hexstar> rhombus: no it's not, su is only temporary priv escalation
[01:37] <tapas> noooooo
[01:37] <nalioth> rhombus: sudo -i and sudo -s put you into a super user terminal
[01:37] <ikonia> unagi: you /think/ you can access the data, that doesn't mean its all there and ok
[01:37] <dystopianray> rhombus: they achieve the same thing
[01:37] <BeOSMrX> mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[01:37] <ikonia> that also doesn't mean its not
[01:37] <dystopianray> rhombus: they will both give you a root shell
[01:37] <tapas> why doesn't my ubuntu kernel have /proc/config.gz support?
[01:37] <unagi> there it goes
[01:38] <ShackJack> dystopianray: What about sudo root :P
[01:38] <rhombus> what's confusing about the way Ubuntu is packaged is that the password for sudo is not clearly explained
[01:38] <dystopianray> tapas: the config is in /boot/
[01:38] <crimsun> tapas: because it has /boot/config-$(uname -r) support.
[01:38] <JayRoe> nickrud, I removed it from the list and the panels dissapeared. I'm sure the actual session tab only affects this session. How do I boot from the terminal?
[01:38] <captainm> BeOSMrX: mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera
[01:38] <tapas> yaya
[01:38] <nalioth> rhombus: it tells you at first use of the terminal
[01:38] <rhombus> if there's no root user, and no root password, then what's the password?
[01:38] <tapas> but /proc/config.gz is so much more cool :)
[01:38] <Falstius> BeOSMrX: you can try mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera  but it probably won't work (it should have automatically detected vfat).  Instead the camera isn't compatibile.  Get an external card reader.
[01:38] <Tidus> rhombus, sudo asks for your user password
[01:38] <rhombus> I must have missed that message.
[01:38] <crimsun> whatev.
[01:38] <hexstar> rhombus: use sudo -i
[01:38] <ikonia> rhombus: three is a root user
[01:38] <dystopianray> rhombus: the sudo password is always your own password
[01:38] <ShackJack> rhombus: Same as default user...
[01:38] <nalioth> rhombus: all the GUI things that require 'super user' ask for YOUR password
[01:38] <nickrud> JayRoe, you don't need to boot, just log out and back in. sudo reboot will reboot
[01:38] <rhombus> yeah, I figured that out with trial and error.
[01:38] <rhombus> :P
[01:39] <dystopianray> rhombus: there is only one password setup when you install
[01:39] <Tidus> but i can see how it is confusing
[01:39] <Falstius> unagi: it worked?
[01:39] <bruenig> rhombus, if you are fresh from windows, there is no problem as you probably don't even have a concept of root user, if you are coming from another distro, it can be confusing, although I use sudo on other distros too but mainly as a means of circumventing passwords with NOPASSWD
[01:39] <Tidus> because i did the same stinkin thing lol
[01:39] <BeOSMrX> captainm: mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[01:39] <hexstar> you can set the root password via sudo passwd root
[01:39] <sparkay> i cant watch divx/xvid movies , please help (new install)
[01:39] <Tidus> !codecs | sparkay
[01:39] <rhombus> bruenig: i am fresh from normal Linux ;)
[01:39] <ubotu> sparkay: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:39] <hexstar> BeOSMrX: try fdisk -l /dev/sda
[01:39] <unagi> yea
[01:39] <unagi> im backing up now
[01:39] <m1r> !java
[01:39] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[01:39] <rhombus> bruenig: and AIX :P
[01:39] <sveweck> Guys, is there a metapackage for common webserver stuff like Apache and PHP?
[01:40] <hexstar> !info apache
[01:40] <ubotu> apache: versatile, high-performance HTTP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.34-4.1 (feisty), package size 384 kB, installed size 816 kB
[01:40] <rhombus> i don't have an issue with it, it's just confusing and I have to get used to it.
[01:40] <nickrud> !lamp
[01:40] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:40] <Falstius> unagi: good luck.
[01:40] <hexstar> !info php
[01:40] <ubotu> Package php does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[01:40] <BeOSMrX> hexstar: it lists nothing!
[01:40] <dystopianray> sveweck: run 'sudo aptitude' go to 'Tasks -> Unrecognised Tasks -> lamp-server'
[01:40] <unagi> ty
[01:40] <rhombus> but anything that can enhance security is good stuff in my book.
[01:40] <hexstar> BeOSMrX: then that isn't the right name of the camera
[01:40] <rhombus> just as long as it doesn't make my job hard.
[01:40] <hexstar> :(
[01:40] <bruenig> I don't know that it really enhances security all that much
[01:40] <hexstar> unagi: np :)
[01:40] <sveweck> dystopianray: well, I'm using Kubuntu (Adept is the package manager). Is lamp-server a metapackage? I can't find it as such...?
[01:40] <unagi> ty hex
[01:40] <BeOSMrX> i did lsusb but im not sure how to tell what device is my camera
[01:40] <hexstar> unagi: np :)
[01:40] <dystopianray> sveweck: do as I said
[01:40] <Lattyware> Nope, still not working
[01:40] <abstrakt> what's the diff between gstreamer-plugins-ugly and it's multiverse variant?
[01:41] <bruenig> I think it is actually used because it is more newb friendly, just click on synaptic and put your user password instead of a different password
[01:41] <hexstar> BeOSMrX: you could disconnect everything but the camera from the usb ports...
[01:41] <bruenig> less confusing to new users
[01:41] <YossarianFan> >_>
[01:41] <BeOSMrX> adn I also tried dmesg | tail
[01:41] <unagi> the maya folder is quite large for it to 'not be there'
[01:41] <captainm> BeOSMrX: look at the size, using fdisk -l
[01:41] <dystopianray> sveweck: actually try this: sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[01:41] <BeOSMrX> well I know what the camera is
[01:41] <ShackJack> abstrakt: You can check version #'s in Synaptic...
[01:41] <BeOSMrX> it shows in the dmesg
[01:41] <Flannel> sveweck: lamp is a metapackage in Seveas' repositories.  Otherwise you just have to install the componentsyourself (all four of them): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:41] <khatuido> someone know how antialising amsn on amd64?
[01:41] <BeOSMrX> SCSI device sda: 1983999 512-byte hdwr sectors (1016 MB)
[01:41] <JayRoe> nickrud, the panels are back
[01:41] <velko> bruenig, i seem to remember that is was done to prevent people logging in as the root user and do everything "unrestricted"
[01:42] <sveweck> dystopianray: thanks
[01:42] <Lattyware> Could anyone help: glxgears fails, despite nVidia drivers being loaded (the logo shows). Xinemara with three screens, latest nVidia drivers from nVidia, and an 8600GTS and 7600GS. xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/d7a914eae
[01:42] <Falstius> BeOSMrX: you tried mount /dev/sda /mnt/camera  ?
[01:42] <nickrud> JayRoe, a sec
[01:42] <sveweck> Flannel: hahaha, ok :) thanks
[01:42] <BeOSMrX> mount -t vfat /dev/sda /mnt/camera mount: special device /dev/sda does not exist
[01:42] <nalioth> bruenig: a brute force attack that has the user name "root" is halfway to success
[01:42] <khatuido> someone know how antialising amsn on amd64?
[01:42] <abstrakt> ShackJack, ... er, so the multiverse variant wouldn't include any different plugins, just different versions?
[01:42] <BaD_CrC> i'm really beginning to hate kde dependencies
[01:43] <velko> nalioth, your comment does not make much sense
[01:43] <ShackJack> abstrakt: Well it might have extra codec support, but you'd have to check changelog for that... generally multiverse will be newer version....
[01:43] <abstrakt> BaD_CrC, hahaha, that's cuz KDE sucks
[01:43] <captainm> BeOSMrX: whoops, should be mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera