[00:05] <adam0000345> tomreyn should I use older version of Ubuntu than?
[00:06] <adam0000345> instead of using 20.04
[00:06] <adam0000345> the older LTE version
[00:06] <tomreyn> adam0000345: i don't see how this would help.
[00:06] <adam0000345> I thought it was an error with latest release?
[00:07] <adam0000345> seems like this is the work around
[00:07] <adam0000345> Just remove shim/shim-signed/mokutil, and make sure you also deleted /boot/efi/EFI/*/shimx64.efi, then this problem goes away. It's not related to linux kernel.
[00:07] <adam0000345> I saw it there
[00:07] <adam0000345> where would I find the shim/shim-signed/mokutil file
[00:07] <adam0000345> how would I remove that
[00:08] <adam0000345> and also how do I delete the boot/efi file
[00:08] <tomreyn> yes, you can try this workaround. i didn't understand this issue to be limited to the latest ubuntu release.
[00:08] <adam0000345> it seems if I can delete those files, I will not have a problem
[00:08] <oerheks> didi you follow all the steps on your howto? Making Ubuntu bootable part 2 and on? https://florisvanbreugel.wordpress.com/2018/03/23/installing-ubuntu-on-an-external-ssd-drive-on-a-macbook/
[00:08] <tomreyn> those files you'll find on the efi system partition, usually the first partition on the installed disk.
[00:08] <adam0000345> yes I did
[00:08] <adam0000345> oerheks I did the whole guide
[00:08] <adam0000345> all the way to the end
[00:09] <adam0000345> what is the easiest way of gaining access to that partition?
[00:11] <adam0000345> would Ubuntu be able to provide me some terminal access to that partition?
[00:20] <tomreyn> adam0000345: if you can boot the ubuntu installation you have on your internal disk, then you have access to this partition
[00:20] <tomreyn> including by terminal
[00:20] <tomreyn> you'll need to use sudo to access it, though
[00:21] <adam0000345> I run into the issue and cannot boot onto the ubuntu installation
[00:21] <adam0000345> tomreyn when I try to access my internal disk, I run into the issue I mentioned above
[00:21] <zilenc3> I'm on Xubuntu and I've disabled Light locker from startup and from it's own menu, but still something is locking my screen when it goes to sleep. I was wondering how to get rid of that
[00:22] <adam0000345> but based off the comment, there must be some way to troubleshoot without having to boot onto that drive
[00:22] <tomreyn> adam0000345: if you cannot boot ubuntu off the internal storage then you'll need to boot ubuntu or some other OS from removable storage, and mount the efi system partition from the internal disk, so that you can access it
[00:23] <adam0000345> ok so if I boot off a live usb stick, I would go try ubuntu
[00:23] <adam0000345> and in terminal mount it?
[00:23] <oerheks> zilenc3, on gnome i had to disable in 2 places, screensaver and powermanagment, guess it is the same on xubuntu too
[00:23] <tomreyn> adam0000345: terminal or graphical user interface, either should work
[00:24] <zilenc3> oerheks, You sir are correct! Thank you.
[00:25] <adam0000345> tomreyn I can look this up but if you happen to know what the command would be to mount the partition that would be great
[00:25] <adam0000345> and to be clear, this partition is the one that has the Ubuntu Boot Loader on it?
[00:25] <tomreyn> adam0000345: this is for ubuntu 16.04 but should work for 20.04 as well: https://askubuntu.com/questions/926398/how-to-mount-the-efi-system-partition-using-ubuntu-16-04-live-cd
[00:26] <tomreyn> yes, the partition that has the ubuntu boot loader (grub) on it.
[00:27] <adam0000345> ah thank you, I guess it also has the EFI System Type too
[00:28] <Mat63> Hi. Ubuntu manages RAM on a regular basis. Can this be changed simply?
[00:29] <Mat63> Or is it a beta version?
[00:29] <tomreyn> Mat63: managing RAM is one of the primary tasks of what operating systems do, why are you trying to change this?
[00:29] <oerheks> 'Ubuntu manages RAM on a regular basis' ..
[00:30] <oerheks> this is a good argument?
[00:30] <Mat63> he does it very efficiently and I have to juggle so he doesn't overflow
[00:31] <Mat63> I say regular not to say bad
[00:31] <tomreyn> hmm, to me, it remains unclear what the problem is that you're trying to solve, or why.
[00:32] <Mat63> I am not going to change the source code to solve it, but it would be a good contribution
[00:32] <oerheks> can you collaborate about 'juggle' and the issues you encounter?
[00:32] <oerheks> some say firefox is slow when opening 60 tabs :-D
[00:33] <tomreyn> both collaborate and elaborate. ;-)
[00:34] <Mat63> maybe it's the hardware, it doesn't matter now, thanks anyway, see ya
[00:37] <Mat63> It is not just a couple of tabs, a pdf and music as each one may not be able to work using the RAM memory, and it ends up overflowing. Is it possible for the kernel to avoid this overflow?
[00:38] <adam0000345> how do I know if I successfully mounted a partition?
[00:38] <adam0000345> I never got an error
[00:38] <adam0000345> and running ls
[00:38] <adam0000345> in terminal
[00:38] <adam0000345> so I think I am good
[00:38] <Mat63> how much it costs you to free up RAM, if there is an amount of redundant information?
[00:38] <tomreyn> adam0000345: the "mount" command will list it as being mounted at the mount point you had it mounted to
[00:39] <oerheks> Mat63, that feature is already in the kernel and enabled.
[00:39] <Mat63> Doesn't the kernel have a smarter algorithm?
[00:39] <oerheks> how much ram does your system have?
[00:39] <tomreyn> adam0000345: i mean "as mounted", not "as being mounted"
[00:39] <adam0000345> tomreyn I see a bunch of text when I run mount
[00:39] <Mat63> 4
[00:39] <tomreyn> adam0000345: good. so it probably works as expected.
[00:39] <tomreyn> !man | adam0000345
[00:40] <tomreyn> !terminal | adam0000345
[00:40] <Mat63> As a comparison I say that windows 8 does not have that problem, and they are two desktop-oriented operating systems
[00:40] <tomreyn> adam0000345: see the terminal guide above if you haven't
[00:40] <adam0000345> yup I knew about man but sometimes man is not the most clear or helpful
[00:40] <adam0000345> will do thanks
[00:41] <Mat63> It's just a comparison
[00:41] <adam0000345> the helpful community here is preferred
[00:41] <adam0000345> :)
[00:41] <tomreyn> !discuss | Mat63
[00:42] <Mat63> I see you don't have a less direct answer, thank you
[00:43] <Mat63> So here you can only ask questions related to what?
[00:44] <tomreyn> Mat63: support with concrete problems or tasks. see the /topic
[00:45] <adam0000345> Just remove shim/shim-signed/mokutil, and make sure you also deleted /boot/efi/EFI/*/shimx64.efi, then this problem goes away. It's not related to linux kernel.
[00:45] <Mat63> This is the problem and you tell me that the kernel already has these qualities built in?
[00:45] <adam0000345> for this, if there is no efi folder in my boot would I be on the wrong partition?
[00:45] <oerheks> Mat63, your questions were answered i guess, you noticed and told us your issue solved itself.
[00:45] <Mat63> That is the answer in relation to RAM?
[00:45] <oerheks> so, what else should the kernel/desktop do?
[00:46] <oerheks> 4 as in 4 gb will do.
[00:51] <adam0000345> so I am definetly looking on the partition that has the Ubuntu boot loader on it
[00:51] <adam0000345> but I cant find shim or boot
[00:52] <adam0000345> are both of these on root directory?
 Just remove shim/shim-signed/mokutil, and make sure you also deleted /boot/efi/EFI/*/shimx64.efi, then this problem goes away. It's not related to linux kernel.
[00:54] <adam0000345> correct but I can't find shim
[00:54] <tomreyn> the forward slash indicates a subdirectory
[00:54] <adam0000345> and cant find efi file
[00:54] <oerheks> yes, in the root folder /boot/efi/
[00:54] <oerheks> etc
[00:54] <adam0000345> correct so I was thinking it would be in root
[00:54] <adam0000345> cant find efi
[00:54] <tomreyn> what you'll mount will have an empty directory on the root, and then an EFI/ subdirectory
[00:55] <adam0000345> yeah so I am looking at my root directory
[00:55] <adam0000345> folder
[00:55] <adam0000345> after mounted
[00:55] <adam0000345> I go into boot folder
[00:56] <adam0000345> and in there, there is no efi folder
[00:56] <tomreyn> which line in the output of the "mount" command shows where you mounted the efi file system?
[00:57] <adam0000345> let me check, there was a lot of text so I might have missed it
[01:00] <adam0000345> tomreyn so when I run that, I only see a efivarfs
[01:00] <adam0000345> on /sys/firmware/efi
[01:01] <adam0000345> no boot/efi
[01:01] <tomreyn> adam0000345: you can share the full output here by running this:    mount | nc termbin.com 9999     and then posting the url printed here.
[01:02] <adam0000345> will do thanks
[01:11] <adam0000345> on a side note, would you know why my live usb stick causes things to freeze and force me to restart
[01:11] <adam0000345> when running off my live usb, ubuntu tends to freeze or slow
[01:11] <adam0000345> it might be because my usb stick is super old
[01:12] <adam0000345> or not very large, I think it is only 2gb or 4gbs
[01:12] <tomreyn> they tend to break a lot faster than other storages.
[01:12] <tomreyn> it's probably why.
[01:12] <tomreyn> i'm heading to bed now, good luck on your mission, adam0000345
[01:12] <adam0000345> ah like their total life of when they are considered good is low
[01:13] <adam0000345> ah ok, I was just going to quickly post what you wanted to see too
[01:13] <adam0000345> but ok
[01:13] <adam0000345> if you have a couple of mins, I will post it here, otherwise good night
[01:17] <adam0000345> tomreyn getting an issue with your command
[01:17] <adam0000345> Temporary failure in name resolution
[01:17] <adam0000345> not liking termbn.com
[01:19] <adam0000345> nevermind
[01:19] <adam0000345> ok here is the link
[01:19] <adam0000345> https://termbin.com/o53g8
[01:19] <adam0000345> if anyone sees something in there
[01:20] <adam0000345> tomreyn not sure if you are still awake and can take a quick look for me
[01:20] <adam0000345> thank you
[01:21] <oerheks> it is mounted, last line
[01:21] <oerheks>  /dev/sdb3 on /mnt type hfsplus (ro,relatime,umask=22,uid=0,gid=0,nls=utf8)
[01:21] <oerheks> but .. ro = read only
[01:21] <adam0000345> yup its mounted but I cannot find the eti folder under boot
[01:21] <adam0000345> referenced in the workaround
[01:21] <adam0000345> Just remove shim/shim-signed/mokutil, and make sure you also deleted /boot/efi/EFI/*/shimx64.efi, then this problem goes away. It's not related to linux kernel
[01:22] <adam0000345> I do not see an efi folder being loaded
[01:22] <oerheks> but, ro does not let you change it
[01:22] <adam0000345> correct but regardless of permissions
[01:22] <oerheks> sudo mount -t hfsplus -o force,rw /dev/sdb3 /mnt/
[01:22] <adam0000345> should I not be able to see the above
[01:22] <adam0000345> or are you saying I need the right permissions?
[01:23] <adam0000345> to see certain folders show up?
[01:23] <oerheks> yes
[01:23] <adam0000345> ah ok let me try your command
[01:23] <adam0000345> thanks
[01:23] <adam0000345> one sec
[01:24] <adam0000345> oerheks ok now I am getting this
[01:24] <adam0000345> https://termbin.com/l2g6
[01:25] <adam0000345> still not seeing the folder
[01:26] <adam0000345> and it seems I have rw
[01:27] <adam0000345> any possible ideas?
[01:29] <adam0000345> one reason why I might not have an EFI is because of the following
[01:31] <adam0000345> please look here: https://termbin.com/vo5v
[01:31] <adam0000345> in there you can see I am accessing this
[01:31] <adam0000345> ""/dev/sdb3  973328032 976510983   3182952   1.5G Apple HFS/HFS+"
[01:32] <adam0000345> that has my Ubuntu Boot Loader on it I thought
[01:32] <adam0000345> following this
[01:32] <adam0000345> https://florisvanbreugel.wordpress.com/2018/03/23/installing-ubuntu-on-an-external-ssd-drive-on-a-macbook/
[01:41] <kaiser> hello
[01:41] <Bashing-om> adam0000345: Not a lot of help on a MAc - but we can establish what we are looking at - where. For the channel pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' and also ' ls -al /mnt/ '.
[01:41] <kaiser> so i have this bluetooth mouse im trying to pair with my ubuntu 18.04 laptop
[01:42] <jmadero> hi all - I install squeezelite and it's broken my pulseaudio, alsa works fine (squeezelite works fine) but my pulse is showing dummy output only
[01:42] <kaiser> when i use the gui to try to pair it, it fails with no error and the window becomes unresponsive to any furhter attempts to pair
[01:42] <kaiser> when i use hcitool to lescan, it shows thousands of devices, but if i try to pair with the mouse, that same command starts erroring out with "input/output error" afterwards
[01:43] <kaiser> when i try to pair through cli, it gives an error "refused to connect"
[01:55] <adam0000345> Bashing-om ok for sudo parted-l
[01:56] <adam0000345> you will want to go to https://termbin.com/z9v7
[01:56] <adam0000345> for sudo ls -al /mnt/
[01:56] <adam0000345> you will want to go to https://termbin.com/vrcx
[01:56] <adam0000345> Bashing-om let me know if that helps
[01:56] <Bashing-om> adam0000345: Looking ^ .
[01:56] <adam0000345> thanks
[02:01] <adam0000345> for context, I followed the above guide exactly
[02:01] <adam0000345> so I am not sure if I would have missed the EFi step
[02:05] <Bashing-om> adam0000345: Mind ya - most I do not know - But ! look at sdc; and you see a "EFI System Partition"; whereas on sdb there is no boot partition there. Now there is  *NO*provision to install the boot code for EFI to sdb. sdb3 is a Mac system partition not linux. I would assume you would want to be able to boot from sdb.
[02:06] <oerheks> bottleneck is the extended drive, i guess.
[02:07] <oerheks> if you could disable secureboot, it would be fine.
[02:07] <bigfluff> Hello, how do I backup userdata for my snaps?
[02:07] <adam0000345> oerheks I tried to disable secureboot
[02:07] <adam0000345> but I dont get that option to do so
[02:08] <adam0000345> this is when I go into the iOS recovery options by holding down command R
[02:08] <adam0000345> unless there is some other way of doing this?
[02:08] <Bashing-om> adam0000345: A thought - what results when you set bios to boot sdb in *LEGACY" mode ? Maybe the boot code is MBR rather than EFI ?
[02:08] <adam0000345> how do I do that?
[02:08] <adam0000345> is there a command I can run to do this
[02:11] <Bashing-om> adam0000345: Again, I know anything about a MAc machine - the booting in legacy just becuase there is no EFI boot partiton on sdb to be able to boot from in EFI mode.
[02:12] <adam0000345> how do you normally boot from legacy on PC?
[02:12] <adam0000345> Bashing-om
[02:14] <Bashing-om> adam0000345: In the firmware are options of which drive is primary, and which methods to boot - another thought - the boot code to boot sdb *might* be installed to the sdb /boot/ partition. Might see now what options you have when booting sdc.
[02:15] <Bashing-om> Ouch adam0000345 Boot code installed to sdc*
[02:15] <adam0000345> I dont know how to check this for my laptop, when I boot, I get different drives to boot off of
[02:15] <adam0000345> thats it
[02:17] <Bashing-om> adam0000345: Do not feel real bad adam0000345 - I too have no idea how to reset boot options on your Mac :(
[02:20] <Bashing-om> adam0000345: Be aware that sdb's (500 GB drive) linux partiton is the second partiton on the drive - sdb2.
[02:21] <adam0000345> Bashing-om so I have an SSD
[02:21] <adam0000345> the SSD is 500GB
[02:21] <adam0000345> around 2 gbs was for ubuntu boot loader
[02:21] <adam0000345> 498 was for everything else
[02:24] <Bashing-om> adam0000345: Somerthing went south - take a look at the numbers for sdb in the parted -l output - there are only the 3 partitions - and while we are on this subject - ubuntu uses a swap file now over a swap partition.
[02:24] <adam0000345> let me look
[02:25] <adam0000345> Bashing-om what went south
[02:25] <adam0000345> is there only supposed to be 3 partitions?
[02:30] <Bashing-om> adam0000345: I say again - there should be a "EFI System Partition" on sdb - same as that on sdc. Also I do not see that you made provision on the SSD for over provision: https://easylinuxtipsproject.blogspot.com/p/ssd.html  <-SSD: how to optimize your Solid State Drive for Linux Mint and Ubuntu. Now might be a good time to make a backup of the sdb hfs+ data - and start all over again.
[02:33] <adam0000345> it was never mentioned in the guide though?
[02:33] <adam0000345> https://florisvanbreugel.wordpress.com/2018/03/23/installing-ubuntu-on-an-external-ssd-drive-on-a-macbook/
[02:36] <Bashing-om> adam0000345: Lemme take a short break and I come back and read the tutorial :( My system with 2 SSDs presently booting lefacy mode: https://termbin.com/1av6 .
[02:36] <adam0000345> thank you Bashing-om!
[02:38] <YodaDaCoda> hey can anyone help me out with what I think is a bug? i recently upgraded to 20.10 and my laptop's internal keyboard no longer works
[02:39] <YodaDaCoda> I have live ISOs of both 20.04 and 20.10 (current at time of writing) and the 20.04 one works but 20.10 doesn't
[02:40] <YodaDaCoda> `showkey` registers the keypresses from the internal keyboard but otherwise it doesn't work
[02:41] <adam0000345> Bashing-om one thing I will try is to just install ubuntu 20 on the regular hard drive
[02:41] <adam0000345> to overwrite the mac boot options
[02:41] <adam0000345> that way I will have ubuntu on my solid state drive and my regular hard drive
[02:41] <ax562> Just wanted to say thanks to all the people that make Ubuntu happen!  OS rocks!
[02:42] <adam0000345> I agree except setting it up can be a pain :(
[02:42] <adam0000345> 2 days
[02:42] <adam0000345> no results
[02:45] <Bashing-om> adam0000345: Not taken my break yet -- your reference to install is old now - maybe find a more recent as now-a-days ubuntu defaults to install a swapfile rather than use a swap partition.
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:34] <adam0000345> hi any updates?
[03:34] <adam0000345> I timed out sorry
[05:18] <adam0000345> so following up here, would anyone know why my partition would not have these files on it
[05:18] <adam0000345> Just remove shim/shim-signed/mokutil, and make sure you also deleted /boot/efi/EFI/*/shimx64.efi, then this problem goes away. It's not related to linux kernel
[05:20] <EriC^> adam0000345: whats the problem you're trying to solve?
[05:21] <oli_b> Hi all
[05:21] <adam0000345> I am trying to get ubuntu 20.04 to work on a seperate SSD drive
[05:21] <adam0000345> following this guide
[05:21] <adam0000345> https://florisvanbreugel.wordpress.com/2018/03/23/installing-ubuntu-on-an-external-ssd-drive-on-a-macbook/
[05:22] <adam0000345> on macbook pro 2012
[05:22] <adam0000345> I am getting this issue
[05:23] <adam0000345> EriC^
[05:23] <adam0000345> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1867092
[05:25] <adam0000345> seems like a workaround is here
[05:25] <adam0000345> Just remove shim/shim-signed/mokutil, and make sure you also deleted /boot/efi/EFI/*/shimx64.efi, then this problem goes away. It's not related to linux kernel.
[05:40] <OnkelTem> Hi all. I've got a bluetooth donge which doesn't work on Kubuntu 18.04. idVendor=0a12, idProduct=0001. Name: CSR8510 A10
[05:40] <OnkelTem> Is there a way to get it functioning quickly?
[05:45] <mysterydos> Hey guys, I've got something really weird happening with a ubuntu 20.04 server: It won't take files! I try to scp anything, even 1kb, it gets stuck. I try rsync, it gets stuck.
[05:46] <adam0000345> sorry I keep losing history because I keep getting disconnected
[05:46] <adam0000345> does anyone know of how I might be able to resolve my issues
[05:46] <mysterydos> This happened after I added a new M.2 NVM drive, which seems to be working correctly. This behaviour happens regardless of which destination I try to transfer it too
[05:46] <adam0000345> the ones I had posted already
[05:46] <EriC^> adam0000345: 1 sec
[05:46] <adam0000345> ok thanks EriC
[05:47] <EriC^> adam0000345: are you in it right now?
[05:47] <adam0000345> yes
[05:47] <adam0000345> I can run whatever you want
[05:47] <adam0000345> or actually no
[05:47] <adam0000345> I have been using ubuntu live usb to troubleshoot
[05:48] <adam0000345> mount the parition with the Ubuntu Boot part on it
[05:48] <adam0000345> and further troubleshoot
[05:48] <EriC^> adam0000345: what happens when you try to boot it?
[05:48] <adam0000345> so my macbook just gives the error I mentioned earlier
[05:48] <adam0000345> thats without holding any keys down
[05:48] <adam0000345> if I hold the key down
[05:48] <EriC^> cause from the launchpad page it says that it seems like it's supposed to continue ok
[05:48] <EriC^> adam0000345: type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999' in the live usb and paste the link here
[05:49] <adam0000345> I get the mac boot loader if I hold alt
[05:49] <adam0000345> ok will do
[05:49] <adam0000345> you want this after it's mounted?
[05:49] <EriC^> no need
[05:49] <adam0000345> ok one sec let me get that for you
[05:51] <adam0000345> sorry ubuntu just froze on me, :(
[05:51] <adam0000345> my ubuntu live stick is not ideal
[05:51] <EriC^^> np
[05:57] <mysterydos> Any ideas for why a ubuntu server will not receive files via scp or rsync, but will send files and wget fine?
[06:00] <EriC^^> mysterydos: maybe some firewall settings?
[06:01] <mysterydos> I don't have any firewalls, `Status: inactive`
[06:03] <mysterydos> aha, this is weird
[06:03] <mysterydos> I can transfer 1KB files fine
[06:03] <mysterydos> I cannot transfer 1MB files
[06:08] <adam0000345> EriC^^ I get Error: both the primary and backup GPT tables are corrupt.  Try making a fresh table, and using Parted's rescue feature to recover partitions
[06:10] <mysterydos> I cannot transfer anything larger than 1930 bytes
[06:17] <EriC^^> adam0000345: that's not good, is there anything other than ubuntu on the disk
[06:17] <adam0000345> no
[06:17] <adam0000345> I followed this guide
[06:17] <adam0000345> https://florisvanbreugel.wordpress.com/2018/03/23/installing-ubuntu-on-an-external-ssd-drive-on-a-macbook/
[06:18] <adam0000345> if I mount the ubuntu boot partition I was not getting this error though
[06:19] <EriC^^> adam0000345: ok try mounting it and deleting those files mentioned in the bug i guess
[06:19] <adam0000345> when I mount it, I cant find the files to delete
[06:20] <EriC^^> what files are there?
[06:26] <mysterydos> OK ISSUE SOLVED
[06:26] <mysterydos> problem was MTU
[06:26] <mysterydos> my router craps out with jumbo packets
[06:38] <hotsoup> Good evening all. I have a brief question about UUID's.  The UUID is a unique identifier for a block device (usu. a HDD) correct? If I inserted a disk into a machine and formated the device and got a UUID for the device, will the UUID be persistent if I then pull the HDD and insert into a new system?
[06:38] <hotsoup> That is until I format the drive again?
[06:46] <adam0000345> EriC^^ sorry for missing this earlier
[06:46] <adam0000345> I posted a URL for the files in the history
[06:46] <adam0000345> is there any way of finding them and using those
[06:46] <adam0000345> just so I dont have to report the urls
[06:46] <adam0000345> ?
[06:48] <adam0000345> I need to go to bed now but I wish we used a discord or a slack where I could easily search for previously posted comments or questions
[06:52] <EriC^^> hotsoup: yes that's correct, uuid is for the filesystem
[06:58] <hotsoup> Thanks much. I recently rediscovered how useful they can be.
[06:58] <hotsoup> Much appreciated EriC^^
[07:00] <blobZ> hi guys-i would like to get my default gateway address so i can telnet into my router(i want to see if the service daemon runs on the router in it current altered state) will "localhost" give me the required ip address or do i need to run ip a
[07:01] <EriC^> hotsoup: no problem
[07:03] <blobZ> hey EriC^ how ya been
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> blobZ: sounds more like a question for ##networking ?
[07:03] <blobZ> okay lotuspsychje but i know ur a genius would you humour me please
[07:04] <blobZ> you have help me many times in the past and i thank you and Eric for that
[07:04] <blobZ> et al
[07:04] <blobZ> i asked and got ip route show
[07:07] <blobZ> have a good one guys =)
[07:12] <how2connact> helo is ubun2 good?
[07:12] <how2connact> for like game n overcook cd drive n stuff like dat
[07:16] <how2connact> can i run kde on ubun2
[07:16] <InspectorCluseau> Yes  or dl Kubuntu
[07:16] <guiverc> how2connact, the Ubuntu based with KDE on it is called Kubuntu, an official flavor of Ubuntu
[07:17] <guiverc> https://ubuntu.com/download/flavours
[07:17] <how2connact> omg ya is kde good for like game n stuff like dat
[08:24] <gloomy> Hi, I'm trying out systemd timers for the first time. I first made a simple unit, "test_timer.service" with `ExecStart=/bin/bash -c "echo 'test timer running'"`. When I run it (systemctl --user start test_timer.service), the message appears in my logs as expected.
[08:25] <gloomy> Then I made a timer "test_timer.timer", with `OnUnitActiveSec=5s`.
[08:26] <gloomy> And started it. The logs show that the timer unit starts, but I don't get the messages ("test timer running") anymore
[08:26] <gloomy> What am I doing wrong?
[10:57] <monojamoon|> Hi guys! I have a dual boot system. I just updated my Windows 1o the 2004 update and now I can't see the grup screen. Any ideas how to fix this?
[10:57] <monojamoon|> The system boots directly to Windows
[10:58] <tomreyn> !grub | monojamoon|
[10:59] <monojamoon|> Thanks ... trying it out
[10:59] <Matrox> how can i close firefox but restore my tabs next time it starts?
[11:00] <tomreyn> Matrox: there's a setting for this in firefox preferences
[11:00] <tomreyn> actually the very first one you'll see
[11:01] <Matrox> oh thats nice. never payed attention to that
[11:01] <Matrox> so i just close the browser and it remembers my tabs great
[11:02] <Matrox> whats that secondary option to warn me when quitting the browser? since i wont lose my tabs whats the point
[11:08] <tomreyn> Matrox: none i could come up with. maybe there are some people who just want an extra prompt before closing their web browser ;-)
[11:09] <mgedmin> I used to accidentally press ctrl-q instead of ctrl-w all the time, and it was nice to get a warning instead of the window suddenly disappearing
[11:09] <mgedmin> also, if you get the tabs back doesn't mean you'll get the content back (modern javascript-heavy web is terrible sometimes)
[11:09] <Matrox> yeah would be useful with that
[12:16] <stuenttu> hello, do you guys know if Chromium has some security issues on Ubuntu? I found my password leaked that I've used with chromium, but not the ones I've used with Firefox. weird
[12:17] <stuenttu> anyway reinstalling ubuntu
[12:20] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> stuenttu: leaked password does not really mean its a flaw in chromium, this can be obtained by several methods
[12:24] <stuenttu> agree, but It was a single but many, all pw I've used with chromium
[12:24] <stuenttu> it wasn't single
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> stuenttu: if all passwords were compromised that could indeed sound like a browser injection
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> stuenttu: wich ubuntu version and chromium version did that happen on?
[12:25] <stuenttu> 20.04 and newest chromium
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> stuenttu: system was up to date?
[12:26] <stuenttu> yes
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> stuenttu: did you notice anything weird lately
[12:28] <stuenttu> I mean not really, I only found about the leak via my apple warning about passwords being compromised, and I tracked it to the ones I've used with chromium on ubuntu
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> stuenttu: hmm ok, im checking recent chromium bugs a bit, holdon
[12:30] <ThinkT510> and the apple warning wasn't a phishing attempt?
[12:30] <stuenttu> no it was in the settings -passwords place
[12:30] <stuenttu> not email
[12:31] <stuenttu> "This password has appeared in a data..."
[12:31] <stuenttu> data leak
[12:32] <stuenttu> and my password are quite strong that I don't manually type
[12:32] <stuenttu> more than once
[12:32] <ThinkT510> so you use some kind of password manager?
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> stuenttu: did you recently upgrade?
[12:33] <mgedmin> chromium stores all the saved passwords in the system keyring (gnome-keyring-daemon)
[12:33] <mgedmin> if you ran any untrusted code on your machine, it couldn've fetched them from it
[12:33] <stuenttu> yea I saved them there
[12:34] <stuenttu> on my apple they are saved in my apple keychain
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> stuenttu: you did not upgrade from the apt chromium to the snap chromium recently?
[12:54] <stuenttu> lotuspsychje you might be correct, I cant recall
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> stuenttu: thats a known bug, the transition would loose its password store location
[13:26] <analogical> when using 7z from the terminal how do I specify the output destination?
[13:31] <summonner> https://lmgtfy.app/?q=7zip+specify+output+destination
[13:31] <analogical> I wouldn't have asked here if I hadn't googled earlier
[13:31] <summonner> !ot | analogical
[13:32] <analogical> but I'm using ubunttu
[13:38] <analogical> when using 7z from the terminal how do I specify the output destination?
[13:39] <geirha> when extracting or when archiving?
[13:41] <analogical> when extracting
[13:43] <geirha> -o/dest/dir
[13:45] <analogical> I'm sorry but that doesn't make sense
[13:45] <analogical> tha man page says -o{Directory}
[13:45] <mason> analogical: That's how. You found it!
[13:46] <hggdh> analogical: correct. Replace {Directory} by the desired directory path
[13:46] <geirha> right, so you replace {Directory} with the directory you want
[13:46] <analogical> if I want to use a folder on my desktop called output as the destination what do I type?
[13:46] <EriC^^> /home/user/Desktop/dir
[13:46] <oerheks> full path
[13:47] <analogical> how and where do I place the -o switch?
[13:47] <geirha> "-o$HOME/Desktop/output"   assuming you use an english locale. in other locales it may be named something other than Desktop
[13:48] <geirha> including the quotes
[13:48] <analogical> why doesn't the man page use quotes?
[13:48] <geirha> because that's shell syntax, nothing related to 7z
[13:49] <analogical> sometimes I wonder if linux was designed by a sadist
[13:49] <geirha> it's a good practice to quote arguments containing variable expansions in the shell. Otherwise the expanded variable's content may be modified along the way
[13:50] <tarzeau> analogical: i ask my self the same thing about windows
[13:50] <geirha> with tar it would be simpler as we could use tilde expansion then
[13:51] <analogical> tarzeau, windows 10 is horrible but it's at least easier to understand than linux
[13:51] <hggdh> let's keep on topic, please
[15:52] <isapgswell> hello everyone
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> welcome isapgswell
[15:52] <isapgswell> nvidia sink output is still  supported ubuntu 20.04 LTS?prime onDemand
[15:52] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje thx
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> isapgswell: how can we help you today?
[15:54] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: i would like to know how to use my external monitor with nvidia-prime onDemand
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> isapgswell: optimus settings can be found in your nvidia-settings powersaving/on demand/performance mode
[15:56] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: performance profile, nvidia works great
[15:56] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: on my external monitor
[15:58] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: on demand breaks external monitor
[15:58] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: too lag
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> isapgswell: both monitors connected hdmi?
[16:00] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: one monitor connected to notebook hdmi
[16:00] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: i put nvidia-drm.modeset=1 grub default
[16:01] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: but no progress
[16:01] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: maybe xrandr solves
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> isapgswell: i think from the moment you branch a second monitor, you make your card work more, so might logic would be needed performance mode to avoid lags
[16:03] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: ubuntu 18.04 works great but with performance profile set
[16:03] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: i installed 20.04 with on demand profile enable
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> isapgswell: wich nvidia driver active currently?
[16:04] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: 450.80.2
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> isapgswell: did you try the same, on a different driver yet?
[16:04] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: do you know xrandr setprovideroutputsource ?
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> isapgswell: i dont mess with xrandr much no
[16:05] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: xrandr setprovideroffloadsink
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> isapgswell: your graphics card chipset please?
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> isapgswell: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1275097/ubuntu-20-04-nvidia-on-demand-second-monitor-severe-lag
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> seems like other reports exist
[16:08] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: my gpu is nvidia gpu 1060
[16:08] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: 6gb vram
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> isapgswell: could you try the same with 1 nvidia driver version lower please, see if you can reproduce this?
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> isapgswell: ubuntu-drivers list, to see your available drivers
[16:11] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: ok
[16:14] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: is missing performance droplist powermizer
[16:14] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: there is only auto at powermizer
[16:15] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: mirrrowed works great
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> isapgswell: did you reboot after driver switch?
[16:15] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: extended display too
[16:16] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: wait
[16:17] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: driver 435?
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> isapgswell: sure, try
[16:17] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: ok
[16:24] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: driver 435 doesnt support external monitor
[16:24] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: dont even laggy
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> isapgswell: driver loaded correctly? sudo lshw -C video, at bottom driver=...
[16:26] <isapgswell> yes
[16:26] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: yes
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> isapgswell: ok, try 440
[16:27] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: ok
[16:27] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: my distro dont have this driver 440
[16:27] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: gonna test 455
[16:33] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: same proble driver 455
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[16:34] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: still only works performance profile
[16:34] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: i think nvidia doesnt take control of external monitor
[16:35] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: when i plug
[16:35] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: meanwhile performance profile is the way
[16:36] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: and wait udates
[16:36] <isapgswell> lotuspsychje: updates
[16:49] <lordcirth> Is there anything like "auto nice daemon" (and) that can do ionice?
[16:49] <lordcirth> Or is there a way to cap the IOPS that any one user can use?
[17:44] <isapgswell> how can i set nvidia secondary modesetting
[17:44] <isapgswell> any idea?
[17:48] <code-witch> Hello. I recently messed up grub loader, i had windows and ubuntu dual boot, i wanted to increase my partition space using gparted, which i did.
[17:50] <code-witch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcbTgMKpVHQ i followed this tutorial and in the end, while executing `sudo chroot /mnt/myroot` i am running into this error `usr/sbin/chroot: Input/output error`
[17:50] <summonner> !grub | code-witch
[17:51] <summonner> maybe that helps?
[17:52] <code-witch> i don't get u summonner
[17:53] <summonner> code-witch, you adjusted your partitions and messed up grub-loader?
[17:53] <code-witch> yeah
[17:53] <code-witch> that's what happened
[17:54] <oerheks> blkid gives the new UUID, copy them in your fstab and run update-grub
[17:54] <code-witch> could u please break it down for me oerheks
[17:55] <code-witch> i get the rescue screen when i turn on my laptop
[17:56] <code-witch> it says ` grub error: file ‘/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod’ not found`
[17:57] <Ravage> code-witch, before you try anything else give https://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/files/ a try
[17:58] <oerheks> bootrepair is an option, or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Fixing_a_Broken_System
[17:58] <summonner> yeah so in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting  the second section "grub rescue" gives a specific run-down, including the page "general troubleshooting" to find the new grub boot. after you have done all that and got your desktop working again, you can then run boot-repair (google that)
[17:58] <oerheks> choose the livecd answer
[17:59] <summonner> or yeah, re-run your live CD as oerheks says and then try the boot-repair utility (you might need to install it)
[18:11] <shepherd_> stupid question - out of the blue the windows key wont open my application menu anymore. any idea how I can set that up again?
[18:16] <oerheks> win + A shows the menu directly
[18:22] <isapgswell> why nvidia-smi shows dual xorg from ;usr/lib
[18:23] <isapgswell> when i enable automatic login nvidia-smi shows up only on xorg
[18:38] <ovrh> Good evening. Is this an appropriate place to ask for help with (what I assume is) a grub issue? (situation: dual booting Ubuntu 20.04 and windows 10. Both systems were working yesterday and booting just fine. Today I booted Ubuntu (where I am now as well) and worked from it without problems. I just tried to go into Windows though, and it doesn't work)
[18:41] <tomreyn> ovrh: hi, this is the right place for *Ubuntu* (and Ubuntu's grub package) support. I'm not sure we can help with booting Windows. Do you get to see any error message when you try to boot into Windows from grub?
[18:43] <ovrh> tomreyn, None really. When I select Windows from the grub menu, press enter, the whole screen sort of refreshes, but nothing happens. I tried to select it and press 'e' to go into edit mode, and then ctrl+x (without editing anything) to execute, and all it shows is a one-liner saying "relocation failed"
[18:43] <ovrh> I made no changes to grub, ubuntu, or windows neither yesterday not today. But there were some windows updates though
[18:45] <dancesWithCycles> Hi guys, how are you doing? Due to the world wide Covid-19 situation I decided to be open to new challenges. Has someone experience with making a free software hobby to become a business?
[18:45] <xet7> ovrh: Windows updates can sometimes break Windows or Linux. It would be better to run Windows in VM like VirtualBox or Qemu.
[18:46] <ovrh> xet7, I use windows only for playing videogames, and that's not really gonna work in a VM unfortunately :/
[18:47] <leftyfb> !ot | dancesWithCycles
[18:50] <tomreyn> ovrh: the way you're describing this makes me think that windows changed something to how it now needs to boot, and this is no longer in line with how grub is configured to boot it.
[18:50] <tomreyn> ovrh: you can try accessing the grub menu and see how you can proceed from there, but i'm not able to guide you through the process
[18:51] <tomreyn> ovrh: you may also be able to recover windows using the generic recovery options they provide, ask in ##windows
[18:51] <ovrh> tomreyn, yeah sounds like that's the case. Unfortunately I have no idea what might have changed, nor have any idea of how to boot windows in another way :/
[18:52] <ovrh> tomreyn, not sure what's the grub menu. You mean on startup?
[18:52] <tomreyn> this would likely overwrite grub and make linux unbootable, though, so, once that's done, you'd then need to follow recovery procedures for grub
[18:52] <tomreyn> !grub
[18:52] <ovrh> tomreyn, Ah... not really looking forward to breaking ubuntu as well :/
[18:52] <tomreyn> grub is what displays the menu you may get to see during boot
[18:53] <tomreyn> the *text* menu
[18:54] <ovrh> tomreyn, Gotcha. Nothing that I can do from there from what I tried. Boot ubuntu works, going into the bios works, but windows doesn't
[18:54] <shepherd_> oerheks: win + a stopped working too. all the win hotkeys dont seem to do anything suddenly. and my keyboard has two win keys so i dont think its the key
[18:55] <shepherd_> oerheks: Except for win + d that still shows desktop
[18:57] <tomreyn> ovrh: also try this, just in case: boot into ubuntu, install any pending updates:
[18:57] <tomreyn> !uptodate
[18:58] <tomreyn> ovrh: ... then run   sudo update-grub && sudo grub-install    and reboot and try windows again
[18:58] <ovrh> tomreyn, didn't think about pending updates, checking now
[18:59] <ovrh> tomreyn, just for reference, in ##windows they said they don't support dualboot. Not surprising
[19:00] <tomreyn> ovrh: it will always be annoying to have to maintain a dual-boot system. i'm with xet7 there, better run one in a VM. if you have recent enough hardware, read up on #LookingGlass
[19:01] <tomreyn> (and maybe join their channel, too)
[19:02] <ovrh> tomreyn, Eh again, unfortunately I can't go the VM way because literally the only thing I do on windows is playing videogames, and they don't do well through a VM
[19:02] <tomreyn> ovrh: if you're referring to graphics performance then that's why i pointed to lookingglass
[19:05] <ovrh> tomreyn, Wait, I thought it was something like lutris, but it's... not? Are they claiming it would be possible to run FPS games at 144fps through that? :O
[19:06] <tomreyn> ovrh: if that's how fast your graphics card operates natively, yes.
[19:07] <ovrh> "This article assumes you already have a fully functional libvirt VM with PCI Passthrough working on a dedicated monitor" yeeeeah... that sounds super complicated and super easy to mess up :/
[19:10] <tomreyn> it is. maybe this is a little easier: https://github.com/joeknock90/Single-GPU-Passthrough  (but this is really outside of ubuntu support)
[19:11] <tomreyn> you'll never have the guest OS breka your host OS anymore, though.
[19:12] <ovrh> Thank you for your help tomreyn. I'll give a shot to looking glass, and hope that the windows problem solves itself. Otherwise, I guess I'll waste less time playing videogames from now on xD
[19:12] <tomreyn> i mean windows breaking ubuntu or itself in a dual-boot-setup won't happen that way
[19:13] <xet7> ovrh: I would recommend playing Linux games only. That's what I do myself.
[19:14] <ovrh> xet7, there's no good FPS game that runs on linux without problems unfortunately.
[19:16] <xet7> ovrh: What problems you have? I have played some that I installed with apt, I did not notice any problems yet.
[19:19] <ovrh> xet7, well, I only really play Warzone right now, and I don't know any way of making that work on Linux at all. I did try Overwatch in the past, and I gotta say: when it worked, it worked with better performance than on windows, but it would randomly crash the game or the battle.net client (was running it though lutris). Still impressive though
[19:22] <tomreyn> I assume xet7 was referring to native Linux games
[19:27] <xet7> Yes, those native Linux FPS games that are at Ubuntu repos already, like sauerbraten. I do also like other Linux games, like Neverball, SuperTuxkart, SuperTux, etc. I myself am at Open Source TSC team https://secretchronicles.org , I created .deb and .exe installers.
[19:31] <ruid> Hello.  I recently installed ubuntu and opted for whole disk encryption.  But I'd like to re-install.  When I reboot I don
[19:32] <ruid> Hello.  I recently installed ubuntu and opted for whole disk encryption.  But I'd like to re-install.  When I reboot I dont see a boot options splash screen, and holding F2 or F12 or delete doesn't work.  It always prompts me for my whole disk encryption password
[19:32] <ash_worksi> does anyone know if there's a way to make f overlapping links more legible in Tridactyl?
[19:32] <EriC^^> ruid: you need to boot a live usb to reinstall
[19:32] <ruid> i cant.  thats what im saying
[19:32] <ruid> EriC^^: it doesn't give me the option.
[19:33] <EriC^^> ruid: which pc/laptop model?
[19:33] <ruid> lenovo
[19:33] <EriC^^> ruid: maybe you need to press fn+f12?
[19:34] <EriC^^> it's a problem relating to the bios and not cause of the encryption
[19:35] <ash_worksi> is there a good cli ssh password manager?
[19:39] <hotsoup> Hi all, got a brief question about LTS vs Rolling releases. So 5.9 Kernel came out of RC and ready for general consumption.  It will probably be seen in rolling releases in a few weeks to months.  How long (roughly) might it be before we see the same release in an LTS (not specifically Ubuntu)
[19:43] <oerheks> hotsoup, for LTS, current 20.04, it will not get 5.9. *maybe*  next version Groovy Gorilla 20.10 ..
[19:43] <oerheks> current LTS will get backported fixes though
[19:45] <hotsoup> ok. so in general the kernel project is like 2 -3 years ahead with development?
[19:45] <addiks> Hi, I just accidentally turned my sd-card reader off in gnome-disk-tool. Does anyone know how I can turn it back on?
[19:46] <oerheks> hotsoup, there are stable kernels, and testing ones..
[19:46] <oerheks> for LTS we choose stable, ofcourse
[19:47] <oerheks> good luck with rolling releases, it makes you a testbunny.
[19:48] <hotsoup> so eventhough its out of RC its still considered testing for general consumption for a while, which is why the LTS releases hang back as they do. Meaning the 5.4 Kernel in current has been around and stable for long enough to be trusted for most use cases?
[19:49] <hotsoup> Personally I didn't want to mess with rolling releases. I figured more chance of my hardware being detected and working properly.
[19:50] <oerheks> We have !HWE for LTS releases
[19:50] <oerheks> !hwe
[19:50] <oerheks> so, there is choice.
[19:52] <hotsoup> oh ok.  Thats what the HWE means when I ssh into my server.  The driver work has been backported from the future, not fixes. Thanks. Will spend some quality time there
[19:58] <ruid> EriC^^: I had to manually adjust my boot order with `efibootmgr` utility....
[19:58] <ruid> works now
[20:00] <av0c4d0> Hello everyone. I've been going nuts trying to figure this one out: how to enable the screen sharing option in gnome through gsettings. It seems you can tweak every other setting but not actually enabling/disabling the vnc service itself. Anybody know how to do this?
[20:01] <EriC^^> ruid: ah, interesting
[20:01] <EriC^^> thanks for the feedback
[20:04] <oerheks> av0c4d0, no clue there, as vino is available through the systemsettings/sharing menu, why would you?
[20:05] <av0c4d0> Because my users either turn it off or it mysteriously disables itself :)
[20:15] <leftyfb> av0c4d0: org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.sharing.service:/org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/sharing/vino-server/ enabled-connections    looks to be it
[20:15] <leftyfb> looks like you need to specify a network connection ID
[20:18] <leftyfb> av0c4d0: also org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.sharing.service:/org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/sharing active
[20:20] <av0c4d0> leftyfb ah thanks, will give that a shot
[20:21] <av0c4d0> I made sure that the nic is set btw
[20:22] <leftyfb> av0c4d0: looks like you only need gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.sharing active true
[20:23] <leftyfb> av0c4d0: or maybe that's not it. I can't get it to work actually
[20:23] <leftyfb> maybe a good starting place for you
[20:24] <av0c4d0> hmm no errors but it doesn't seem to work. could be i'm using a separate user through ssh / user logged in physically in gnome
[20:25]  * av0c4d0 $ gsettings get org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.sharing active true
[20:26] <av0c4d0> but it's not actually on. weird
[20:29] <av0c4d0> sudo -Hu other-user dbus-launch gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.sharing active true
[20:29] <av0c4d0> no errors but doesn't actually enable it
[20:47] <av0c4d0>    So here is the output of gsettings watch: /org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/sharing/vino-server/enabled-connections  ['38596e25-cd6b-3113-abc5-f276d2d76cc9', '09bff6af-bdc0-38ac-b775-d38989f190bf', 'cac41fbe-bc18-3d87-bba7-af2af7f8ffab']
[20:47] <av0c4d0> Does anyone know how to actually set this value?
[20:49] <leftyfb> av0c4d0: ah, got it working
[20:50] <leftyfb> gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.sharing.service:/org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/sharing/vino-server/ enabled-connections "['$eth']"
[20:50] <leftyfb> setting it to "['']" will disable it
[20:50] <leftyfb> av0c4d0: you can do multiple with: "['UUID1', 'UUID2']"
[20:53] <BadPidge> lusers
[20:53] <leftyfb> BadPidge: can we help you with something?
[20:53] <av0c4d0> lol
[20:53] <av0c4d0> thanks leftyfb
[20:54] <BadPidge> all good, just lurking
[20:55] <av0c4d0> hmm disabling nor enabling works for me. what version are you trying this on? 20?
[20:56] <leftyfb> av0c4d0: when I set a UUID, it gets enabled for me
[21:12] <av0c4d0> i must be missing something because I still can't get this to work and I know i'm using the correct UUIDs. does this require anything past the gsettings set command?
[23:12] <jrgilman> Is there something in ubuntu that puts my keyboard to sleep potentially if it's not used? Occasionally I get weird unresponsiveness. At first I thought it was my other keyboard giving up the ghost, but now it's happening to two of them
[23:12] <jrgilman> or even linux itself
[23:12] <jrgilman> maybe somekind of usb port sleep?
[23:17] <mefistofeles> hello
[23:17] <dlam> echo "hi"
[23:18] <mefistofeles> does ubuntu have like a CDN or something like that for it's mirrors? I want to put something like that in my sources.list
[23:19] <mefistofeles> That is, I don't want to specify the mirror for a specific country, but to be able to use some "generic" mirror that points to the closes/better one
[23:52] <IRC-Source_60> hi everybody , I have this error on strongswan when establishing Ikev2 vpn  :  [IKE] expected a virtual IP request, sending FAILED_CP_REQUIRED
[23:53] <sarnold> IRC-Source_60: it'd be worth inspecting logs on *both* endpoints of this, that's often very helpful
[23:54] <IRC-Source_60> sarnold , this is the log server side , I don't know what to do
[23:57] <sarnold> IRC-Source_60: i've seen two references to this in various web searches:
[23:57] <sarnold> leftsourceip=%config is missing in my config.
[23:57] <sarnold> double-check both configs? make sure they're both sane?
[23:57] <IRC-Source_60> should I add leftsourceip=%config both sides ?
[23:58] <sarnold> I tihnk it's more nuanced than that, but it's been ~five years since I last read the strongswan docs


[00:05] <statim> ion:  holy crap amazing… that is a pretty crazy script! did the trick
[16:18] <amites> Any ideas why I would be able to start a process via upstart - have it show up in ps aux - but be unknown when running stop/restart commands?? Error log showing: unlink() "/var/run/nginx.pid" failed (2: No such file or directory)
[16:20] <jhunt> amites: you may have mis-specified the expect stanza. See http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#expect
[16:20] <jhunt> amites: you'll probably find that "status <job>" is incorrect.
[16:21] <amites> jhunt: thank you - reading
[16:23] <amites> I'm fairly new to upstart and don't see anything about how to correct the behavior?
[16:23] <jhunt> amites: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#recovery-on-misspecification-of-expect
[16:24] <amites> As a side note the nginx server (problem process) doesn't connect to a port either -- probably related
[16:26] <amites> jhunt: kill: No such process
[16:28] <amites> I should mention that this behavior is new - it was working until there was a port conflict with apache -- corrected port conflict and been this way since
[16:39] <jhunt> amites: can you show us your .conf file?
[16:39] <amites> moment
[16:40] <amites> http://pastie.org/2934063
[16:41] <jhunt> so, nginx doesn't fork at all?
[16:42] <amites> I have it set to use 9 workers in the config
[16:42] <amites> that's the default init/nginx.conf that came from apt-get install
[16:45] <jhunt> amites: http://wiki.nginx.org/NginxMainModule#daemon suggests it daemonizes, so you'd need "expect daemon", but please work through the expect link section. Also, remove that "respawn" until you are fully convinced you've specified the expect stanza correctly.