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[00:42] <slickymaster> I'm off
[00:42] <slickymaster> cy tomorrow belkinsa
[11:09] <slickymaster> morning all
[13:38] <belkinsa> Hey there, slickymaster.  Do you know why NewDocs is called that?
[13:39] <knome> slickymaster, looks like you have auto-opping enabled...
[13:39] <knome> slickymaster, or?
[13:39] <knome> :)
[13:39] <belkinsa> It's is, but I think we need to shut that off.
[13:39] <belkinsa> And morning to you knome.
[13:40] <knome> good day
[13:41] <belkinsa> Also, should this team be added to the teams list @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Teams
[13:41] <knome> belkinsa, slickymaster: you need to change +O to +o
[13:41] <jenni> [ Teams - Ubuntu Wiki ] - https://j.mp/1iZLZOV
[13:41] <knome> (in the channel access list)
[13:41] <belkinsa> Okay, thank you
[13:42] <belkinsa> What is the command
[13:43] <knome> /msg chanserv flags #ubuntu-newdocs belkinsa -O
[13:43] <knome> /msg chanserv flags #ubuntu-newdocs slickymaster -O
[13:43] <knome> (you have +o already)
[13:44] <belkinsa> What is the differnce between voice and OP?
[13:44] <belkinsa> s/differnce/difference
[13:44] <jenni> belkinsa meant to say: What is the difference between voice and OP?
[13:44] <knome> belkinsa, voice only allows you to talk if the channel is +m
[13:44] <knome> belkinsa, no opping rights.
[13:45] <belkinsa> Thank you.
[13:45] <knome> though you probably rather want to +q people who you *don't* want to speak
[13:46] <belkinsa> Yeah, but that's no one yet.
[13:46] <knome> heh, sure
[13:46] <knome> trolls and such need +q
[13:46] <knome> (ops of the channel can still see what they're posting btw)
[13:46] <knome> and if they keep going, you probably should just kick/ban them.
[13:46] <belkinsa> Yeah, I know.
[14:59] <slickymaster> afternoon belkinsa
[15:15] <belkinsa> Afternoon, my computer crashed.
[15:16] <slickymaster> it's up now, I assume
[15:16] <belkinsa> It is,
[15:17] <belkinsa> and that means I need to get working on what I need to do.
[15:17] <slickymaster> so, belkinsa, I'm not being able to /msg ChanServ OP #ubuntu-doc -o slickymaster
[15:17] <belkinsa> newdocs not doc
[15:17] <belkinsa> And it's -O
[15:18] <slickymaster> exactly :P
[15:18] <slickymaster> dumb and lazy me
[15:18] <slickymaster> that happens when you use the tab feature without looking
[15:18] <belkinsa> I'm planning to write a short list of commands to make this easier.
[15:19] <belkinsa> I can make a copy for you , if you want.
[15:19] <slickymaster> ?!
[15:19] <slickymaster> apparently I'm not online
[15:19] <slickymaster> [15:18] *ChanServ* OP #ubuntu-newdocs -o slickymaster [15:18] -ChanServ- o slickymaster is not online.
[15:19] <slickymaster> WTH
[15:19] <belkinsa> Weird.
[15:20] <belkinsa> Weird
[15:20] <belkinsa> Did it on me.
[15:22] <slickymaster> wait a sec
[15:22] <belkinsa> Are the flags wrong?
[15:23] <slickymaster> still getting the same
[15:23] <slickymaster> [15:22] *ChanServ* OP #ubuntu-newdocs -o slickymaster [15:22] -ChanServ- o slickymaster is not online.
[15:23] <belkinsa> Yeah
[15:23] <belkinsa> It's the o, I think.
[15:23] <belkinsa> knome: ping
[15:23] <slickymaster> I'll poke knome later about it
[15:24] <slickymaster> you were saying that you better start working on...
[15:24] <belkinsa> Yeah, and I should.
[15:24] <slickymaster> on what, NewDocs?
[15:25] <belkinsa> No, I need sort out what I have in my Ubuntu folder on my computer and place all of the text/doc files into my CherryTree notebook for Ubuntu.  Plus, I have a resume to write and an application.
[15:26] <slickymaster> that's what I call a plate full :)
[15:26] <belkinsa> foo
[15:27] <belkinsa> s/o/a
[15:27] <jenni> belkinsa meant to say: fao
[15:27] <belkinsa> Okay, just checking for some reason.
[15:27] <slickymaster> yeah
[15:28] <belkinsa> Ubuntu Forums @ubuntuforums 2m
[15:28] <belkinsa> We've hit 2,000,000 threads on the forum. Amazing! Thank you all :-) pic.twitter.com/GfIHLwapZe
[15:30] <slickymaster> yes, that's a huge pile of threads ;)
[15:30] <belkinsa> I think I forum that I am the most has more than that, but they started much earlier.
[15:31] <belkinsa> http://gdb.armageddon.org/ 39K topics
[15:31] <jenni> [ Armageddon General Discussion Board - Index ] - https://j.mp/19EASRJ
[15:31] <belkinsa> s/39/32
[15:31] <jenni> belkinsa meant to say: http://gdb.armageddon.org/ 32K topics
[16:25] <knome> slickymaster, belkinsa: pong?
[16:25] <belkinsa> slickymaster will explain the issue.
[16:26] <slickymaster> hein?
[16:26] <slickymaster> what issue belkinsa ?
[16:26] <slickymaster> oh wait
[16:26] <knome> where's my phone?
[16:27] <slickymaster> I remember now. knome I'm unable to /msg ChanServ #ubuntu-newdocs -o slickymaster
[16:27] <slickymaster> always get a error message stating that slickymaster is not online
[16:27] <knome> /msg chanserv flags #ubuntu-newdocs slickymaster -O
[16:28] <slickymaster> dumb me
[16:28] <slickymaster> :P
[16:28] <knome> do that once
[16:28] <slickymaster> tks
[16:28] <knome> then just do the regular op command when you need ops
[16:30] <slickymaster> knome: still getting the same
[16:30] <slickymaster> [16:29] *ChanServ* OP #ubuntu-newdocs slickymaster -O [16:29] -ChanServ- slickymaster -O is not online.
[16:31] <belkinsa> It's the -O part, it seems.
[16:31]  * knome facepalm
[16:31] <knome> /msg chanserv flags #ubuntu-newdocs slickymaster -O
[16:32] <belkinsa> Yes!  flags is what it is
[16:33] <slickymaster> yeaps, thanks knome
[16:33] <knome> :)
[16:33] <slickymaster> and belkinsa
[16:33] <belkinsa> I have copied and pasted that in my notebook.
[16:34] <belkinsa> Er, my CherryTree one.
[16:34] <slickymaster> well done belkinsa
[16:34] <belkinsa> :)
[16:34] <belkinsa> http://www.giuspen.com/cherrytree/
[16:34] <jenni> [ cherrytree « giuspen ] - https://j.mp/19EInrM
[22:55] <BlinkinCat> Hi all
[23:21] <slickymaster> hey BlinkinCat
[23:22] <knome> slickymaster, you still have +O ;)
[23:22] <BlinkinCat> Good evening slickymaster
[23:22] <slickymaster> knome, how come?!
[23:23] <slickymaster> good night BlinkinCat
[23:23] <slickymaster> how did your medical meetings went, BlinkinCat ?
[23:24] <BlinkinCat> I have been told to take it easy!
[23:24] <slickymaster> anything to be worried about?
[23:24] <slickymaster> knome, what about now?
[23:25] <BlinkinCat> Trouble is I am getting old
[23:26] <slickymaster> your body might be aging but IMO you still have a young man's mind
[23:26] <BlinkinCat> Thanks for all of your help knome
[23:26] <slickymaster> access #ubuntu-newdocs list
[23:26] <BlinkinCat> I'd like to think so
[23:26] <knome> BlinkinCat, no problem


[04:36] <pitti> Good morning
[06:26] <dholbach> good morning
[06:27] <Logan_> hey dholbach :)
[06:28] <Unit193> Howdy.
[06:29] <dholbach> hi Logan_
[06:29] <dholbach> hi Unit193
[06:31] <Unit193> dholbach: FWIW, I now have thunar-dropbox-plugin waiting in Debian NEW.
[06:31] <dholbach> nice
[07:26] <doko> pitti, do you want to continue with lintian?
[07:26] <doko> ;-P
[07:27] <doko> ScottK, Riddell: the kstars autopkg test failure seems to be gone, but the kactivities one is still there
[07:30] <doko> preparation, please wait ...
[07:30] <doko> comparing ABIs ...
[07:30] <doko> comparing APIs ...
[07:30] <doko> creating compatibility report ...
[07:30] <doko> result: INCOMPATIBLE (Binary: 0%, Source: 27.2%)
[07:30] <doko> total "Binary" compatibility problems: 0, warnings: 0
[07:30] <doko> total "Source" compatibility problems: 43, warnings: 0
[07:30] <doko> see detailed report:
[07:30] <doko>   debian/libkactivities6/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dh-acc/libkactivities6_4:4.13.3-0ubuntu2_report.html
[07:30] <doko> dh_acc: abi-compliance-checker -l libkactivities6 -d1 debian/libkactivities6.abi.tar.gz.amd64 -d2 debian/libkactivities6/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dh-acc/libkactivities6_4:4.13.3-0ubuntu2.abi.tar.gz -report-path debian/libkactivities6/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dh-acc/libkactivities6_4:4.13.3-0ubuntu2_report.html returned exit code 1
[07:30] <doko> adt-run [02:17:12]: test acc: -----------------------]
[07:30] <doko> adt-run [02:17:13]: test acc:  - - - - - - - - - - results - - - - - - - - - -
[07:30] <doko> adt-run [02:17:13]: test acc:  - - - - - - - - - - stderr - - - - - - - - - -
[07:31] <doko> acc                  FAIL non-zero exit status 1
[07:31] <doko> ScottK, Riddell: this is really helpful information :-(
[07:32] <pitti> doko: yes, lintian is on my list (there's a debian bug for it, but no patch yet, but should be simple)
[07:32] <doko> dholbach, did you get any more information on the wx mess?
[07:47] <LocutusOfBorg1> thanks pitti for the sync :)
[09:42] <pitti> dholbach, doko: oh, do you happen to know about the wxwidgets/wxpython status? several tests fail due to some apparent version incompatibilities? (2.8 vs. 3.0), lik http://d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/utopic-adt-matplotlib/62/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/console
[09:47] <dholbach> LocutusOfBorg1, ^
[09:51] <doko> pitti, http://survex.com/~olly/wxpy3.tmp/  olly pointed me to that. maybe upload as -4~ubuntu1
[09:51] <pitti> doko: ah, in Debian NEW
[10:05] <pitti> wgrant, cjwatson: I'm trying to copy a langpack from the PPA to precise-proposed: copy-package -b --from=~ubuntu-langpack/ubuntu/ppa -s precise --to=ubuntu --to-suite precise-proposed language-pack-ja
[10:05] <pitti> wgrant, cjwatson: this says "6 packages successfully copied", but doesn't actually do anything (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-ja/+publishinghistory)
[10:05] <pitti> I tried last week, and now again; am I doing anything wrong in that command?
[10:07] <wgrant> pitti: Oh, you left before I answered last week.
[10:07] <wgrant> pitti: Check +queue.
[10:07] <wgrant> pitti: They're in unapproved, as you'd expect.
[10:07] <pitti> wgrant: aah, so that's where they end up; thanks!
[10:08] <pitti> wgrant: yeah, I was on holiday last week, so I didn't want to keep IRC on all the time
[10:08] <wgrant> A good excuse :)
[10:11] <doko> pitti, are you looking at wxpython?
[10:11] <pitti> doko: not ATM; currently testing new lintian and catching up with the usual batch of post-holiday backlog
[10:58] <LocutusOfBorg1> sorry dholbach I cannot access to the link, anyway debian fixed it ;)
[11:13] <dholbach> LocutusOfBorg1, so you're in touch with pitti and doko about the wx issues?
[11:19]  * Bluefoxicy looks at what it would take to start lightdm and gdm with nice -5
[11:37] <doko> pitti, please can you give back the matplotlib autopkg test?
[11:51] <LocutusOfBorg1> dholbach, no I'm not, I cannot even see the link you provided me
[11:52] <LocutusOfBorg1> but if it is not fixed doko pitti please tell me ;)
[11:53] <dholbach> LocutusOfBorg1, https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/utopic-adt-matplotlib/62/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/artifact/results/wxagg-stdout for example
[11:53] <dholbach> (from https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/utopic-adt-matplotlib/62/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/)
[12:06] <doko> jibel, pitti, please can you give back the matplotlib autopkg test?
[12:21] <pitti> doko: it was already retried 4 times -- did anything change now to fix it?
[12:23] <pitti> doko: ah, jibel already retried it
[12:24] <pitti> ah, new wxpython3.0; it will re-run automatically once it's published
[12:26] <mterry> mhall119, heyo!  I have a friend who doesn't want to create a flickr account, but does want to submit two photos to the wallpaper contest.  Do you know if there's an email way to submit?  Or if I can just put them in my account and have a little comment with correct attribution?
[12:36] <LocutusOfBorg1> dholbach, yes thanks, anyway the build has been retried right now, and the bug is already tracked in debian
[12:36] <LocutusOfBorg1> 758209
[12:36] <LocutusOfBorg1> so I don't think there is much I can do ;)
[12:39] <LocutusOfBorg1> dholbach, pitti doko successful
[12:39] <LocutusOfBorg1> adt-run [12:28:39]: test wxagg: -----------------------]
[12:39] <LocutusOfBorg1> adt-run [12:28:40]: test wxagg:  - - - - - - - - - - results - - - - - - - - - -
[12:39] <LocutusOfBorg1> wxagg                PASS
[12:39] <pitti> splendid!
[12:40] <LocutusOfBorg1> ;)
[12:40] <LocutusOfBorg1> sorry for having caused troubles :)
[12:52] <doko> jibel, pitti: please could you re-run the autopkg test for kactivities? and if it fails, override it? no feedback from Riddell and ScottK
[12:53] <ScottK> Sorry, haven't had time to look into it.
[12:53] <ScottK> Please override it if a retry doesn't work.
[12:53] <pitti> doko: retried
[12:53] <pitti> doko: (although I don't think it'll help, it's the ABI checker that fails)
[12:53] <pitti> I can't do overrides, only ~ubuntu-release
[12:54] <ScottK> ping me if it fails and if I'm still around, I will.
[12:56] <jibel> ScottK, this is a real test failure: dh_acc: abi-compliance-checker -l libkactivities6 -d1 debian/libkactivities6.abi.tar.gz.amd64 -d2 debian/libkactivities6/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dh-acc/libkactivities6_4:4.13.3-0ubuntu2.abi.tar.gz -report-path debian/libkactivities6/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dh-acc/libkactivities6_4:4.13.3-0ubuntu2_report.html returned exit code 1
[12:56] <jibel> and retry failed
[12:56] <ScottK> jibel: Thanks.
[12:59] <ScottK> doko: test failure overriden.
[12:59] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^ needs looking into.
[13:47] <mterry> mvo_, in bug 1358272, you say "security is checked".  Do you mean the security team has done a quick audit already?
[13:50] <mvo_> mterry: sorry, this is misleading. I meant to write that I checked the security by auditing the package and writing a bunch of integration testcases for the click branch that integrates debsig-verify into click. AFAIK the security team did not yet review the code
[13:50] <mvo_> mterry: I will clarify this in the bugreport
[13:50] <mterry> mvo_, gotcha
[13:52] <mvo_> mterry: thanks, I updated the page now to make it more clear what I did so far :)
[13:53] <mterry> mvo_, is there a team you can subscribe to Ubuntu bugs?
[13:54] <mvo_> mterry: hm, maybe click-developers
[14:00] <mhall119> mterry: I'm not sure who's running the wallpaper contest, but I can try and find out
[14:00] <mterry> mhall119, ah sorry  :)
[14:05] <tedg> jodh, Any luck with the cgroup not getting created bug?
[14:06] <jodh> tedg: as yet no. Currently trying to recreate it bottom up without all the test layers on top.
[14:06] <doko> pitti, jibel: staring at the bzr autopkg test ... why did it fail? seems to be a timeout, but why?
[14:06] <tedg> jodh, Ah, okay. Ping me if there's anything I can help with.
[14:57] <pitti> doko: I don't know, I'm not familiar with the bzr test suite; but it happesn consistently, I already tried several re-runs
[16:10] <Riddell> jibel: is ubuntu-iso-testing still in development?  I'm wondering how to set up a local version
[16:12] <jibel> Riddell, no it was replaced utah 2 years ago. psivaa and plars can probably point you to the documentation.
[16:12] <jibel> s/utah/by utah/
[16:13] <plars> jibel: more than that I think, it was before I joined qa
[16:14] <jibel> s/2 years/more than 2 years/ :)
[16:16] <psivaa> jibel: Riddell: http://utah-test.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ is the docs for utah. ubuntu-iso-testing is still in use for precise iso testing though
[16:16] <Riddell> thanks
[16:17] <Riddell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Automation could do with some update then :)
[16:36] <sil2100> hallyn: hello!
[16:37] <sil2100> hallyn: I have been told that you might be able to help out with LP: #1357252
[16:38] <sil2100> hallyn: it's a critical issue from the landing team perspective, as with things being like they are right now it's making our test results unreliable
[16:38] <jodh> sil2100: he's at a conference so as mentioned stgraber may be a better choice to hand over to.
[16:39] <sil2100> jodh: thanks :)
[16:39] <sil2100> stgraber: ping! If you're around, as mentioned above, maybe you could take a look at bug LP: #1357252 ? ^
[16:40] <stgraber> jodh: I'm preparing for the same conference
[16:41] <jodh> sil2100: in which case, I suggest we investigate the possibility of disabling cgroup support in u-a-l temporarily until we have a work-around.
[16:42] <sil2100> jodh: I told tvoss about my requests of a possible revert, but he mentioned that it's a critical feature
[16:43] <sil2100> jodh: for now I gave some time for assessing the issue, hoping that we might get an ETA for the real fix
[16:43] <jodh> sil2100: we don't understand the issue fully yet so can't provide an ETA at this point.
[16:44] <stgraber> sil2100: TBH I wouldn't except to get much of Serge or my time on this until Monday next week
[16:44] <sil2100> Ok, then a revert seems like the best option in overall
[16:44] <tvoss> sil2100, +1, tedg ^, fyi
[16:44] <stgraber> I'm busy preparing my talks and then we'll both be at a conference where as I understand it, the wifi isn't quite working (which is why Serge is currently offline)
[16:44] <sil2100> It'll just be a temporary, so no worries - once this is fixed a no-change landing in the CI Train will 'get it back'
[16:44] <jodh> sil2100: I understand this as being critical for rtm but it's only just been enabled so is there really no scope to revert for a few days?
[16:44] <jodh> sil2100: +1
[16:45] <tvoss> jodh, I was argueing for keeping it in to get some mileage on it
[16:45] <tvoss> jodh, however, without a fix, we risk impacting other teams' work, so yeah ... out it goes :)
[16:46] <jodh> tvoss: understood :)
[16:53] <exarkun> is there anything I can do to bring some attention (and hopefully a resolution) to <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1356931>?
[17:01] <dobey> anyone know why this would happen? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8057237/
[17:02] <dobey> i'm declaring new symbols in the symbols file, but dpkg-gensymbols is complaining about them anyway
[17:27] <dobey> nobody? :(
[17:27] <dobey> this is driving me crazy right now
[17:28] <seb128> dobey, do you have that online somewhere where we can get/test it?
[17:32] <dobey> seb128: lp:~dobey/ubuntuone-credentials/check-timeout
[17:32] <dobey> seb128: i'm doing bzr -bd -S -- -sa to create the source, and the building it with sbuild. and it keeps failing with those missing symbols :-/
[17:35] <dobey> i even tried adding them twice, but still no luck
[17:36] <dobey> thanks for looking seb128
[17:36] <seb128> yw!
[17:38] <barry> Laney: any chance LP: #1344386 rings a bell?
[17:39] <seb128> dobey, using those lines work
[17:39] <seb128>  (c++)"UbuntuOne::Token::created() const@Base" 14.04+14.10.20140802
[17:39] <seb128>  (c++)"UbuntuOne::Token::updated() const@Base" 14.04+14.10.20140802
[17:40] <seb128> dobey, you forgot the const in yours
[17:41] <dobey> seb128: i don't see a const in the one it's expecting?
[17:42] <seb128> dobey, you mean?
[17:42] <seb128> dobey, oh, in the error?
[17:42] <dobey> + _ZNK9UbuntuOne5Token7createdEv@Base 14.04+14.10.20140802
[17:42] <dobey> yes
[17:42] <seb128> dobey, they start with _ZNK
[17:42] <seb128> dobey, there wouldn't be a K if it was not a const
[17:42] <seb128> (don't ask, dunno why)
[17:42] <seb128> the non const ones are _ZN...
[17:43] <dobey> oh
[17:43] <seb128> secret of mangling I guess ;-)
[17:43] <dobey> seb128: i wish the error output was run through c++filt :-/
[17:43] <seb128> yeah...
[17:44] <infinity> seb128: What useful thing have you forgotten in order to be able to demangle C++ symbols in your head? :)
[17:44] <seb128> lol
[17:45] <seb128> I'm not able to
[17:45] <seb128> I just reverse debugged that one by deleting other symbols and looking at the differences :p
[17:46] <dobey> yet another way in which c++ makes one feel like a complete idiot
[17:58] <seb128> dobey, let me know if it works for you btw, seems to be fine here
[17:58] <dobey> seb128: yes, it worked. thanks
[17:59] <seb128> dobey, yw!
[17:59] <seb128> barry, hey, saw your mono/glib bug, do you think you could get a gdb backtrace for desrt?
[18:00] <barry> seb128: yep, i'm trying to get all the pieces in place for that
[18:00] <seb128> thanks
[18:41] <stgraber>  /query hallyn
[18:42] <stgraber> oops, extra space in front of that :)
[18:42] <exarkun> is there anything I can do to bring some attention (and hopefully a resolution) to <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1356931>?
[19:49] <hallyn> bug 1357252


[12:09] <bdmurray> could somebody look at bug 112897 with me?
[12:09] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 112897 in Ubuntu "[feisty]  kernel messages after resume are not in the logs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/112897
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #118316 in ndisgtk (universe) "Merge ndisgtk 0.7 from Debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118316
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #118318 in Ubuntu "Sound only works in Right speaker after update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118318
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #118319 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Disks on internal SCSI bus offlined during Feisty boot, no I/O thereafter" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118319
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #118320 in arts (main) "Open Arena logout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118320
[02:01] <ubotu> New bug: #118321 in kde-systemsettings (main) "Kubuntu System Settings missing admin button for KDM Theme Manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118321
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #118322 in phpldapadmin (universe) "locales configuration doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118322
[02:37] <jjesse> hello fellow bug tiragers :)
[02:41] <ubotu> New bug: #118323 in evolution (main) "Evolution crashes (SIGSEGV) in em_format_set_inline() when decrypting a message" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118323
[02:41] <ubotu> New bug: #118324 in vcf-plugins (universe) "vcf plugins not orthogonal to vcf" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118324
[03:16] <ubotu> New bug: #118326 in tsclient (main) "Terminal server client fail delete, up, down right,left and " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118326
[03:55] <ubotu> New bug: #118327 in Ubuntu "Fonts in Gome are too small" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118327
[04:06] <ubotu> New bug: #118328 in samba (main) "Feisty smbmount fails with Error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118328
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #118329 in Ubuntu "Spontaneous Internet Connection loss" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118329
[05:30] <ubotu> New bug: #118330 in Ubuntu "[Kubuntu]  Sony DCR-DVDXXX doesn't mount anymore..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118330
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #118331 in sendmail (universe) "Please sync sendmail from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118331
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #118332 in ubiquity (main) "ubuntu install crashes after grub-install fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118332
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #118333 in Ubuntu "Kopete-The KDE Crash Handler" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118333
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #118334 in ubiquity (main) "Edubuntu Feisty Desktop CD installation fails to install all repositories" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118334
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #118337 in kde-guidance (main) "display configuration crashes after install of ati drivers" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118337
[08:16] <ubotu> New bug: #118338 in Ubuntu "Critical Bug in STD Libs! 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118338
[08:27] <wattazoum> hello  there :-)
[08:28] <wattazoum> how is the Hug day doing ?
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #118339 in gedit (main) "no option to reverse print in gedit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118339
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #118340 in xmame (multiverse) "xmame-sdl segfault when env SDL_VIDEODRIVER = dga" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118340
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #118341 in firefox (main) "firefox crashes during sending a formular" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118341
[09:29] <ccm> 9.
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #118343 in evolution (main) "Sent messages not saved to remote folder if remote folder doesn't belong to same account" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118343
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #118344 in vim (main) "vim-full / vim-gui-common broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118344
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #118346 in alsa-driver (main) "Sound not working after kernel upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118346
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #118347 in Ubuntu "Soundcard ALi M5455 not installed though Ubuntu 6.10 instals it automatically" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118347
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #118348 in gnome-session (main) "Gnome-session crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118348
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #118349 in Ubuntu "Reset USB High Speed device during reading of the usb Stick " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118349
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #118350 in gwenview (main) "gwenview doesn't disable screensaver when viewing slideshow" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118350
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #118351 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "segmentation fault of "random" process" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118351
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #118353 in linux-meta (main) "Grub installation on LVM (new installation, kernel update) fails after lvrename" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118353
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #118356 in cupsys (main) "cups: Too many open files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118356
[11:33] <joumetal> Could bug 118316 be assigned to motu? Changelog says new version closes 2 other bugs.
[11:34] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 118316 in ndisgtk "Merge ndisgtk 0.7 from Debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118316
[11:36] <ubotu> New bug: #118357 in kubuntu-meta (main) "access denied when mounting dvd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118357
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #118358 in automake1.10 (universe) "Automake does not create install-(pdf|dvi|ps|html) targets" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118358
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #118359 in samba (main) "SAMBA sharing fails (gutsy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118359
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #118360 in skencil (universe) "Skencil does't start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118360
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #118361 in plucker (universe) "plucker-desktop: Missing menu entry" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118361
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #118362 in xine-ui (universe) "controls are hidden when fullscreen is enabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118362
[12:56] <ubotu> New bug: #118363 in smokeping (universe) "Error '/usr/sbin/sendmail' does not exist" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118363
[12:56] <ubotu> New bug: #118364 in doodle (universe) "Please sync doodle (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118364
[12:56] <ubotu> New bug: #118365 in Ubuntu "Request for package: sunrise" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118365
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #118366 in f-spot (main) "f-spot crashes at startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118366
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #118367 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "random soft lock up detected" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118367
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #118368 in Ubuntu "ifconfig fail to load 3coms 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado]  lan card" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118368
[01:25] <ubotu> New bug: #118369 in Ubuntu "Berly cause the system hanging up in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118369
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #118370 in openoffice.org (main) "Doesn't recognize ITC Garamond " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118370
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #118274 in k3b "libk3b2-mp3 package not well described" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118274
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #118371 in debian-installer (main) "Kubuntu" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118371
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #118372 in fontconfig (main) "fontconfig incorrectly selects the actual font of Sans/Serif in zh_CN locale" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118372
[02:21] <ubotu> New bug: #118374 in wine (universe) "unhandled exception access violation diablo2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118374
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #118375 in Ubuntu "No sound with LiveCD; I use USB Logitech headset. I didn't have sound with 6.10 either (only with 6.06)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118375
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #118377 in adept (main) "adept_manager crashed KUBUNTU 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118377
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #118380 in openoffice.org (main) "Can't use some arabic fonts in OpenOffic 2.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118380
[03:15] <ubotu> New bug: #118381 in Ubuntu "NOVA-T USB2 not recognised in Feisty Fawn" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118381
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #118382 in ubiquity (main) "Plantage d'instalation de ubuntu 6.06 sur T40" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118382
[03:46] <ubotu> New bug: #118384 in joystick (universe) "Two-gamepads-in-one are treated like one gamepad" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118384
[04:05] <ubotu> New bug: #118385 in hal (main) "the sound stop working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118385
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #118387 in Ubuntu "gutsy: system -> logout hangs something" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118387
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #118388 in kdenetwork (main) "kpf fails to start when panels are locked" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118388
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #118389 in nautilus-cd-burner (main) "important feature missing: check after burn" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118389
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #118391 in openoffice.org2-amd64 (main) "double-free on save OO writer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118391
[05:26] <ubotu> New bug: #118392 in openssh (main) "ssh client segfaulting on fresh ubuntu installation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118392
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #118393 in ktorrent (main) "ktorrent somtimes crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118393
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #118394 in Ubuntu "KDE's desktop pager applet does not work properly with Beryl" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118394
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #118395 in ubiquity (main) "files /var/log/installer/syslog, /var/log, and /var/log/partiman" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118395
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #118397 in sysvinit (main) "checkfs fails at startup while trying to check /dev/.tmp-XXX" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118397
[06:06] <ubotu> New bug: #118398 in gnome-panel (main) "Invest accessory appears broken and cannot be removed." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118398
[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #118401 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "fails to resume after suspend to ram on evesham 7521 laptop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118401
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #118402 in Ubuntu "USB device doesn't mount automatically" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118402
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #118403 in Ubuntu "On web pages menus are hiding behind windows with flash content" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118403
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #118404 in kdeutils (main) "superkaramba hangs after suspend to ram" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118404
[06:56] <ubotu> New bug: #118405 in Ubuntu "Feisty i386 Alternate Installation 85% Stall and ???" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118405
[06:56] <ubotu> New bug: #118406 in bluez-hcidump (universe) "bluez-hcidump: Merge for Debian's 1.35-1" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118406
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #118408 in ubuntu-meta (main) "Ubuntu tries to open .run self-extracting installers with gEdit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118408
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #118410 in mpg321 (universe) "Preview of a song in Nautilus still playing even after deleting the file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118410
[07:51] <ubotu> New bug: #118412 in Ubuntu "The /opt directory is missing, some software relies on it" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118412
[07:55] <ubotu> New bug: #118411 in Ubuntu "stop applet doesn't work and after this NOTHING works" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118411
[08:05] <ubotu> New bug: #118413 in kdevelop (universe) "package dependencies do not include all required files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118413
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #118415 in fpc (universe) "Clicking "Debug->Watches" in the IDE produces the error "No debugger support available" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118415
[08:14] <H4wk> join #ubuntu-motu
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #118416 in phpmyadmin (universe) "Please sync phpmyadmin 4:2.10.1-3 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118416
[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #118417 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu hangs/crashes when switching between 2 xsessions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118417
[08:47] <nxvl> hi, today is the motu hugday, isn't it?
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #118418 in langpack-locales (main) "4 digits year to fix evolution birthdays before 1969" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118418
[08:50] <DktrKranz> nxvl, yes
[08:51] <nxvl> :D
[08:51] <nxvl> so, i'm new in this
[08:51] <DktrKranz> welcome :)
[08:51] <nxvl> i have already a launchpad account
[08:51] <nxvl> but doon't know what to do
[08:52] <DktrKranz> well, there's room for everything
[08:53] <DktrKranz> you can give a hand by triaging some bugs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs
[08:53] <nxvl> im reading this page just right now
[08:53] <nxvl> :D
[08:54] <DktrKranz> or by preparing fixes to some easy tasks: http://tinyurl.com/2us2se
[08:54] <DktrKranz> or doing more packaging related activities: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/TODO
[08:54] <nxvl> what i don't undestand very well is, today we fix bug for feisty or gutsy?
[08:55] <DktrKranz> usually fixes are for development releases
[08:55] <DktrKranz> but if you notice a bug which deserves to be fixed in a stable release, don't hesitate
[08:56] <DktrKranz> ask suggestions about it and feedbacks
[08:56] <DktrKranz> and gather opinions from here or #ubuntu-motu
[08:57] <DktrKranz> there will always be a experienced user or developer who can assist you
[09:21] <ubotu> New bug: #118419 in firefox (main) "Firefox closes when trying to upload pictures." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118419
[09:35] <xjdriver69> i'm trying to check out this url: bazaar.launchpad.net/~bugsquad/bughelper-data/main bughelper-data but I get this error: ERROR: Not a branch:
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #118420 in pokerth (universe) "[gutsy]  pokerth needs an icon in kde menu/games" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118420
[09:35] <xjdriver69> does anyone have any idea?
[09:35] <xjdriver69> asac: perhaps you can help Admiral_C on this one...
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #118421 in Ubuntu "file roller extracts a .zip file, causes nautilus/desktop to hang when accessing folder" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118421
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #118422 in xmms2 (universe) "xmms2: merge new debian version" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118422
[10:27] <xjdriver69> ah i got it...
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #118424 in debian-installer (main) "Cannot install Xubuntu on Gateway Astro." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118424
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #118426 in xfce4-panel (main) "menu is not updated automatically after new program is installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118426
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #118427 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash on pressing back on a pdf" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118427
[10:57] <Burgundavia> slackwarelife: why did you leave some teams?
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #118428 in lush (universe) "lush's ogre: Unsupported window system" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118428
[11:05] <slackwarelife> Burgundavia: I try to understand
[11:05] <slackwarelife> Burgundavia: if I able to be a part of this project
[11:05] <slackwarelife> Burgundavia: launchpa
[11:05] <Burgundavia> slackwarelife: no, no don't worry
[11:06] <Burgundavia> I just wanted to see if there was anything wrong
[11:07] <slackwarelife> Burgundavia: Thanks, but (sorry for my english) I don't understand the real spirit of ubuntu community
[11:07] <slackwarelife> Burgundavia: I want a lot and now :(
[11:07] <Burgundavia> no worries
[11:08] <Burgundavia> hmm, that is too bad
[11:08] <slackwarelife> Burgundavia: I know it
[11:08] <Burgundavia> is there anything I can help with
[11:08] <Burgundavia> ?
[11:09] <slackwarelife> Burgundavia: now I want to think about the community
[11:09] <slackwarelife> Burgundavia: I want to rebuild my ubuntu join with a right spirit
[11:09] <Burgundavia> ahh, ok
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #118429 in gnome-utils (main) "Baobab: Scan Folder command only opens a dialog properly the first time it is run" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118429
[11:10] <slackwarelife> Burgundavia: to so I think I must do before, after I can join
[11:11] <slackwarelife> to do
[11:11] <Burgundavia> if you need anything, just ask me
[11:11] <Burgundavia> matthew east is also a good person to talk to
[11:18] <slackwarelife> Burgundavia: ok thanks. I try to speak with matthew, but I think he is busy
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #118431 in gnome-power-manager (main) "missing support for wireless powersave" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118431
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #118432 in gnome-terminal (main) "malformed line 44 in source list" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118432
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #118433 in gnome-games (main) "mahjongg scoreboard: sometimes cannot enter name" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118433
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #118435 in gnumed-client (universe) "please backport from gutsy to feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118435
[12:03] <Kmos> bug 118247
[12:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 118247 in firefox "reenable mozilla-firefox* transitional packages in gutsy" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118247


[02:33] <scott_ev> pleia2: ping
[02:35] <scott_ev> nm, I'll see you friday and I'll be more prompt with my summaries this coming week
[02:48]  * pleia2 needs to get the release out the door
[02:49] <pleia2> I'll try to soon, it's been a long day, need to get my head above water
[02:59] <jose> pleia2: want me to release?
[03:04] <pleia2> jose: actually, that would be great, the only thing that needs to be done is the "In this Issue" added and then you should be good to go
[03:04] <jose> pleia2: ok, I'll take care of that :)
[03:04] <jose> go and take a rest for the day
[03:04] <pleia2> I can do social media and discourse once you get the fridge post up
[03:04] <jose> ok, I'll need approval on the mailing list too
[03:04] <pleia2> right, will do :)
[03:54] <jose> pleia2: I need ML approval
[03:56] <jose> The new edition of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is now available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue333
[03:56] <pleia2> jose: done :)
[03:56] <jose> thanks, pleia2! :)
[03:57] <jose> forums post can be found at joseeantonior.com/forum.post
[03:58]  * pleia2 grabs
[03:59] <pleia2> having trouble connecting
[03:59] <jose> let me check
[04:00] <jose> try with http://limun.joseeantonior.com/forum.post
[04:00] <pleia2> better, thanks :)
[04:00] <jose> np :)
[04:03] <jose> and fridge's done
[04:04] <pleia2> social media is done, doing discourse now
[04:05] <jose> and all wiki changes are done by now too
[04:06] <pleia2> \o/
[04:06] <pleia2> thanks, you're a lifesaver :)
[04:16] <jose> no worries, we're always here to help :)
[04:16] <jose> just shout if you have anything else I can help with
[04:17] <Unit193> (We are?)
[04:31] <jose> people usually are
[04:31] <jose> anyways
[07:46] <dholbach> good morning


[00:14] <hallyn_> rbasak: the mangle inside the container did not seem to work
[00:15] <hallyn_> sarnold: you're an iptables pro.  do you know of a way to insert a rule only if the rule hasn't previously been inserted?
[00:20] <rbasak> hallyn_: I didn't actually try that myself. Did you reverse the mangle rule appropriately?
[00:28] <hallyn_> rbasak: it's possible i did not
[00:35] <hallyn_> rbasak: what would 'reverse appropriately' mean?  I only have one nic available there (eth0) and you cant do inbound mangle rules.
[00:35] <hallyn_> so all i did was s/lxcbr0/eth0/
[00:40] <sarnold> hallyn_: sorry, I'm no pro, I barely speak iptables.
[00:43] <rbasak> hallyn_: just to match on inbound instead of outbound. I didn't know you can't do inbound mangle rules. My iptables(8) says you can since 2.4.18?
[00:43] <hallyn_> drat.  ok, thanks.  i'll just make a judgement call then (soonish) on whether to parse iptables -L or use a file under /run.
[00:44] <rbasak> hallyn_: it's Medium/Low importance for me. The workaround is pretty trivial. The only pain was before I found the bug.
[00:45] <hallyn_> ok, prio changed, thanks.
[00:45] <rbasak> hallyn_: I figure that it's Debian that's (now) buggy since consensus seems to be that dhclient should be patched. So it feels better to me to patch the container if possible.
[00:46] <hallyn_> rbasak: on my saucy laptop:  iptables v1.4.18: Can't use -i with POSTROUTING
[00:46] <hallyn_> oh, heh
[00:46] <hallyn_> i misread
[00:48] <rbasak> hallyn_: in the container I'd guess something like: iptables -t mangle -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp --dport bootpc -j CHECKSUM --checksum-fill
[00:48] <hallyn_> rbasak: i'm using iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p udp --dport bootpc -j CHECKSUM --checksum-fill
[00:48] <hallyn_> (didn't work
[00:48] <hallyn_> INPUT doesn't either
[00:49] <rbasak> Oh, dport -> sport
[00:49] <rbasak> No, perhaps not
[00:49] <hallyn_> (sorry, flurry of kids arms and legs all around, my attention to detail is lacking0
[00:49] <rbasak> If it doesn't work then fair enough. I don't know enough about netfilter to know why
[00:51] <hallyn_> yeah still no go.  I think it has to do with the fact that eth0 doesn't exactly get routed, since it's bridged.  but not sure
[00:51] <hallyn_> (-j OUTPUT -o eth0 did not work either.  tried all the combos by now)
[00:52] <hallyn_> someone somewhere who understand this is chuckling at us right now
[00:53]  * hallyn_ out
[00:53] <sarnold> alexey? or harald?  :)
[00:53] <hallyn_> alexey for sure
[01:37] <xIlluzionx> Hi
[01:59] <pmatulis> hi
[02:03] <xgeek-cub> unstalling the ubuntu server ; the install process ask about host name
[02:03] <xgeek-cub> should i add the domain that i bought for my VPS here?
[02:30] <jotterbot1234> why can't I
[02:31] <jotterbot1234> tail -f /var/log/syslog
[02:31] <jotterbot1234> getting permission denied
[02:31] <jotterbot1234> but I have added myself to the adm group
[02:31] <jotterbot1234> with: sudo usermod -a -G adm <username>
[02:31] <jotterbot1234> what's the deal?
[02:32] <hallyn_> jotterbot1234: have you logged out and back in since then, or done newgrp adm?
[02:32] <jotterbot1234> hmm
[02:32] <jotterbot1234> I have rebooted one, let me see something.....
[02:32] <jotterbot1234> hallyn_: what does newgrp adm do?
[02:32] <jotterbot1234> the adm group already exists
[02:33] <hallyn_> jotterbot1234: check 'man newgrp(1)' - newgrp logs you into a new group
[02:35] <jotterbot1234> hallyn_: thanks, will do
[02:35] <hallyn_> np
[03:27] <xgeek-cub> i want to update my ubuntu server fully what commands should i issue?
[03:30] <mardraum> update the existing install or update to the latest version, eg 13.10 ?
[03:55] <xgeek-cub> mardraum: : http://askubuntu.com/questions/368848/upgrade-and-update-ubuntu-server
[04:00] <mardraum> xgeek-cub: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:03] <xgeek-cub> mardraum: the dist-upgrade changes my version from 12.04 LTS???
[04:06] <mardraum> no
[04:06] <mardraum> that would be do-release-upgrade command
[04:10] <xgeek-cub> mardraum: reallysure??? iam doing it right now? going?
[04:10] <mardraum> pardon?
[04:10] <xgeek-cub> mardraum: i am confirming
[05:19] <babinlonston> hi all ,
[05:20] <babinlonston> I have a VPS from DigitalOcean , And now i need to send mail from my vps to some gmail email id or to some else how can i install and configure mail server in it to send out my vps
[05:23] <sarnold> babinlonston: cool :) https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-and-setup-postfix-on-ubuntu-12-04
[05:24] <babinlonston> sarnold: this not supported me to send out of vps , its sending mail only to the local users in VPS , and already i did it
[05:25] <sarnold> babinlonston: oh. bother. I guess I should have read beyond the headline.
[05:30] <sarnold> babinlonston: the bits here about spf and dkim might be helpful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[08:30] <babinlonston> I have a VPS and installed with Ubuntu 12.04 how can i setup ftp for the /var/www/ Directory , I cant give the logins of VPS to Developer so i need to setup a ftp
[08:33] <andol> babinlonston: Why on earth would you want to use FTP instead of something sane like ssh/sftp?
[08:35] <babinlonston> andol: what ever , just the developer need to access the /var/www/ directory using filezilla or any other client , i Don't want to provide him my credentials
[08:38] <esmic> hey
[08:38] <andol> babinlonston: Then you create an additional user, and give that user access to that folder.
[08:39] <andol> ...which is kind of what you would need to do with ftp too.
[08:39] <babinlonston> andol: ok
[08:39] <esmic> i have a question about ubuntu, and im bit newb
[08:40] <babinlonston> andol:  did i need to give the user with full permission 777
[08:45] <andol> babinlonston: 777 really isn't a permission you set on a user, but on a folder, which almost always is a bad idea. Instead you should change the user and/or group ownership, depening on what other users might too need to use that directly.
[08:50] <babinlonston> ok
[09:00] <Guest23822> hi, for ufw, I have put http://paste.ubuntu.com/6334657/ to before.rules, and then stop ufw and start ufw. it does not work. I can still access websites 80 ports directly in chrome browser. can anyone help? thanks.
[09:25] <xgeek-cub> hostname -F /etc/hostname  returns nothing but i have rockspacefn in the /etc/hostname
[10:41] <MrQuist> ZZzzzzz....
[11:07] <dzeko> What's the bast way to fully backup your server?
[11:16] <Patrickdk> take the drive out, and use it as a football for thanksgiving with your relatives
[11:16] <Patrickdk> !best
[11:18] <dzeko> ok, the what's is nowadays usually way to fully backup your ubuntu home server. What do you use?
[11:19] <Patrickdk> normally I'll just copy the vmdk file
[11:29] <dzeko> its not a virtual server, its just a old fashion remote dedicated server :)
[11:33] <Patrickdk> dzeko, generally, if you want that, two options, reboot into a backup cdrom or so
[11:33] <Patrickdk> or use lvm and take a snapshot
[11:34] <Patrickdk> personally, I never liked either, and stuck with just coping the data I needed, like /var /etc and sometimes other stuff
[11:45] <sgo11> hi, any squid expert here? My squid setup does not work and get Forwarding loop detected warning. Before setup http_port 3128 transparent and iptables, everything work fine. but after forward local 80 port to 3128. and run chrome in the same machine as squid, I met this issue. thanks.
[11:48] <bazhang> sgo11, try #squid yet?
[11:48] <sgo11> bazhang, nobody in #squid is awake. I kept asking this question in a whole day. nobody replied....
[12:15] <babinlonston> which operating hyperviosr we can install in a Dedicated server ? which is located in remote ?
[12:21] <patdk-wk_> babinlonston, any you want?
[12:22] <babinlonston> patdk-wk_:  yes we going to buy a Dedicated server , i need to know which hypervisor is good , and i need to install and  manage it from remote
[12:23] <patdk-wk_> heh? good?
[12:23] <patdk-wk_> you have several choices
[12:23] <patdk-wk_> vmware, hyperv, xen, kvm, maybe even virtualbox
[12:23] <babinlonston> patdk-wk_: i need it in Linux and want to be in open source
[12:49] <EvilPenguin> Hello is anyone here able to help with a DNS problem (BIND9)?
[12:50] <MrQuist> EvilPenguin, i might try, state your troubles.
[12:50] <EvilPenguin> Hello! :) The problem I'm having is that doing an nslookup doesnt give the server name but rather the ip address
[12:51] <EvilPenguin> e.g nslookup google.com will return server: (IP of DNS Server)
[12:51] <EvilPenguin> I rewrote the reverse lookup zone twice
[12:51] <EvilPenguin> restarted bind9 and incremented the serial and still the same problem
[12:52] <EvilPenguin> can show you screenshots of config files if you want
[12:58] <sgo11> bazhang, hi, the problem is fixed by adding "-m owner ! --uid-owner proxy" to iptables. found by MrQuist in askubuntu.com. The problem is caused because squid is forwarding traffic back to port 80. I use iptables to forward 80 to 3128. it forms a loop. thanks a lot for your time. just FYI.
[13:00] <MrQuist> ah, bye EvilPenguin
[14:29] <xgeek-cub> hello
[14:29] <bgardner> xgeek-cub: Hello
[14:30] <xgeek-cub> could I;or better said should I add dotdeb.org to my repos; in orther to install php-fpm?
[14:30] <xgeek-cub> is it a good practice?
[14:31] <remix_tj> xgeek-cub: why you need external repos? there is all you need in ubuntu's standard repositories
[14:32] <xgeek-cub> So no dodeb repository?
[14:32] <xgeek-cub> ok
[14:32] <jpds> xgeek-cub: No, it's not.
[14:33] <jpds> xgeek-cub: Those repos don't get any oversight from the security team - so you're on your own if there's a need security update.
[14:33] <xgeek-cub> oh yes; because they are 3rd party
[14:33] <bgardner> xgeek-cub: Yeah, don't do that.  You won't be happy with the outcome.
[14:33] <xgeek-cub> what about backport repository in ubuntu
[14:34] <xgeek-cub> bgardner : iwouldn't do that thanks
[14:35] <jpds> xgeek-cub: There's a large "N.B." comment above it in sources.list you might want to read.
[14:37] <xgeek-cub> jpds: idon't have the backport line in my repo at all
[14:37] <jpds> Well, it's just says: "please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security team."
[14:38] <xgeek-cub> jpds: so the same unhappy endding (outcome)
[14:39] <jpds> There's a php5-fpm package in the repo.
[14:39] <jpds> !info php5-fpm precise
[14:40] <patdk-wk> but he wanted php-fpm not php5-fpm
[14:42] <jpds> patdk-wk: Not the same thing?
[14:42] <jpds> Not that I've ever used it before.
[14:42] <patdk-wk> php-fpm is rhel naming
[14:42] <jpds> But: http://php-fpm.org/download/ --- "PHP-FPM is now included in PHP core as of PHP 5.3.3."
[14:43] <patdk-wk> :)
[14:43] <xgeek-cub> why when i am trying to ap-get install nginx-extra ; the package nginx-full wants to remove it self
[14:44] <xgeek-cub> jpds so no php-fm needed at all no apt-get install php-fpm .....
[14:44] <jpds> xgeek-cub: But you can: apt-get install php5-fpm.
[14:45] <xgeek-cub> jpds: why should i do that if it is already there?
[14:46] <jpds> I don't understand what it is you're trying to do then.
[14:47] <xgeek-cub> installing php mysql nginx andphpmyadmin
[14:47] <xgeek-cub> but installing nginx-extra removes the nginx that i just apt-get ed
[14:48] <jpds> xgeek-cub: Yes, see: apt-cache show nginx-extras and apt-cache show nginx-full.
[14:48] <jpds> -extras is -full AND more.
[15:13] <xgeek-cub> what is this package? php5-mysql!
[15:22] <ogra_> xgeek-cub, apt-cache show php5-mysql ... the Description should tell you
[16:14] <Patero-ng> I want to know how to find out how much left I have for my lease of my ip on ubuntu server 13.10
[16:20] <hazmat> hallyn_, have you seen this one .. https://github.com/dotcloud/docker/issues/2476
[16:20] <hazmat> several folks are having issues with lxc in 13.10 and docker
[16:23] <hallyn_> hazmat: no haven't seen it.  (don't use docker)
[16:23] <hallyn_> kirkland uses it...
[16:24] <hazmat> hallyn_, there's a couple rounds of comments on the mailing list and on #docker about the issue this morning
[16:25] <hallyn_> which mailing list
[16:25] <hallyn_> presumably they need to fix something in their configs - maybe add pstore to their container fstabs?
[16:25] <hallyn_> (that's not an lxc issue.  it's a mountal/kernel issue)
[16:26] <hazmat> hallyn_, docker user ml
[16:26] <hazmat> hallyn_, installing from lxc daily ppa seems to resolve for folks.
[16:26] <hallyn_> that's interesting
[16:27] <hallyn_> (that, on precise, is what i mostly use)
[16:29] <hazmat> smoser, hallyn_, incidentally that 3.8 hwe kernel thingy.. seems to have come from there docs on the topic.. http://docs.docker.io/en/latest/installation/ubuntulinux/ no reasoning behind it though
[16:29] <hallyn_> hazmat: only thing which should not work in 3.2 kernel that i can think of is lxc-attach <shrug>  it's a useful enough feature that hwe kernel may be worthwhile
[16:30]  * hallyn_ goes to see why his printer is not printing
[16:30] <hallyn_> "what am i paying you for!"
[16:30] <arcimboldo> hi all, I have a problem with OpenStack, it stopped starting instances, is someone able/willing to help me?
[16:31] <hazmat> hallyn_, ic, afaik there not using that, really  they only use lxc-start.
[16:33] <hallyn_> that's why i made my suggestion on the m-l :)  <shrug>
[17:05] <Underbyte> what exactly is installed when you select the "Virtual Machine Host" option in the Ubuntu Installation package selection dialog?
[17:16] <adam_g> smoser, around?
[17:19] <sarnold> Underbyte: here's a list of what it wanted to do on my laptop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6336744/
[17:20] <Underbyte> okay, so it doesn't install as openstack?
[17:20] <Underbyte> *install openstack
[17:21] <sarnold> Underbyte: right
[18:22] <Underbyte> sarnold: so what does the 'ubuntu server cloud edition' do differently then? does it just include a package that it automatically installs? or is something a little more special going on here?
[18:25] <sarnold> Underbyte: sorry, I'm unfamiliar with that; I know we've got a variety of tarballs and iso images available for installing depending upon needs.. some can be quite small, made especially for VPS use in containers or similar..
[18:25] <Underbyte> http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud
[18:26] <sarnold> wow that page is all over the place :) hehe
[18:30] <photon> Which is the earliest ubuntu server version which contains apache httpd 2.4?
[18:30] <err-or> photon: what you mean with 'easy'?
[18:31] <photon> err-or: I didn't say easy, I said earliest :P
[18:31] <photon> as in, lowest version.
[18:31] <err-or> damn.
[18:31]  * err-or hides
[18:31] <sarnold> photon: saucy: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2
[18:32] <photon> so, Saucy Salamander
[18:32] <photon> Thank you
[18:33] <photon> any way to get the same for the G++ compiler? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/gcc is more or less a 404.
[18:35] <sarnold> photon: yeah, that's harder to track down; gcc uses versioned packages, gcc-4.8, gcc-4.7, gcc-4.6, gcc-4.5, gcc-4.4, gcc-4.3, gcc-4.1 are all in supported versions of ubuntu
[18:35] <photon> I'm wondering when 4.9 will be supported.
[18:36] <err-or> sarnold: any special kind of interest in that? else i would recommend gentoo or something else.. :)
[18:39] <sarnold> photon: it'll happen in the U series, if it happens. we set the toolchain to a fixed point before the series opens. see e.g. http://lwn.net/Articles/571330/
[18:39] <sarnold> err-or: I've spent enough of my life waiting for software to compile already :)
[18:40] <photon> sarnold: U series? Sorry, I'm not enough familiar with Ubuntu jargon ;)
[18:40] <err-or> sarnold: have fun with that :)
[18:41] <sarnold> photon: sorry -- whatever comes after 'trusty'  :)
[18:41] <photon> sarnold: oh, so you meant, it's already too late for trusty, but probably after that?
[18:41] <sarnold> photon: right
[18:41] <photon> thanks
[18:42] <photon> oh, U series, because U comes after T.
[18:42]  * photon is a bit slow today.
[19:02] <jrwren> really? I'm surprised it won't make trusty
[19:05] <sarnold> jrwren: we decide on toolchain before the dev series opens; I don't know how one version or another is chosen, I just trust that those who choose do a good job :) hehe
[19:10] <photon> g++ 4.9 implements C++11 regex. I've been waiting for this for years. :)
[19:10] <photon> (by which I mean, I'm happy if it comes with U. better late than never.
[19:15] <Arrick> hey all, I need to temporarily allow root to logon to a 12.04 terminal so I can p2v it onto our vmware host... how do I enable the root account to logon?
[19:19] <jrwren> yeah, 4.9 is a particularly excellent release. shame to wait a year to get it into std. but i'd imaging there will be a PPA for it
[19:19] <sarnold> Arrick: easiest is to just use sudo -s or su - from a console.. if you really must give root a password, you may via "passwd" once privs are elevated.
[19:20] <sarnold> jrwren: I assume part of it is just poor timing; moving to a new release of the toolchain for an LTS release might be a big jump. keeping 4.8 for trusty makes sense as saucy's experience can help knock free some harder-to-find bugs
[19:21] <jrwren> sarnold: understood.
[19:22] <Arrick> thanks sarnold I just have to enable it so the vmware p2v tool can run, it has to run as root on *nix.
[19:25] <sarnold> Arrick: and sudo p2v  doesn't work? o_O
[19:25] <Arrick> nope
[19:27] <sarnold> Arrick: crazy.
[19:28] <Arrick> yeah, its their proprietary tool
[19:40] <hazmat> hallyn_, not sure if this already reported.. on saucy.. i've got a juju container that's set to auto start, i rebooted, the container is up and running, but lxc-ls --fancy report  its as stopped
[19:41] <hazmat> as does lxc-info
[19:44] <hazmat> hmm.. but because its running and lxc doesn't know that. i can't stop or remove it
[19:44]  * hazmat unlinks the auto and reboots
[19:48] <hallyn_> hazmat: yes, it's known - probably fixed in -proposed
[19:48] <hallyn_> hazmat: meanwhile you can address it using 'lxc-list -P /var/lib/lxc_anon' and lxc-stop -P /var/lib/lxc_anon'
[20:03] <hazmat> hallyn_, thanks
[20:11] <alex88> hi guys, what's the preferred way to install php 5.5 on 12.04? dotdeb or ppa:ondrej/php5 ?
[20:34] <bgardner> alex88: We're here to help you with the standard versions that ship with Ubuntu - your question might have better luck over at ##php.
[20:34] <alex88> bgardner: I'm asking which you think is "safer"
[20:36] <photon> Ubuntu Server 13.10 installation hangs trying to retrieve file 1 of 2 (93%) in my VirtualBox instance. No CD or HDD activity for 15 minutes. What could be the cause?
[20:37] <bgardner> photon: Tried switching mirrors?
[20:37] <photon> Same happened first time I tried installing, there it hanged just after selecting the keyboard layout.
[20:37] <photon> bgardner: mirrors? oh, it's trying to download something I guess?
[20:37] <bgardner> photon: Or you mean the whole VM hangs, not just the download?
[20:37] <photon> how would I do that?
[20:37] <photon> VirtualBox itself works, the guest OS hangs.
[20:38] <bgardner> photon: Okay, then disregard my mirror comment, I doubt that's related.
[20:38] <photon> bgardner: are you sure? couldn't it be that it simply hangs because it can't fetch the file from the server?
[20:39] <photon> I'm thinking this is quite likely actually.
[20:39] <bgardner> photon: When you say 'hangs', do you mean you can no longer work with it at all?  Or is it just not finishing a download?
[20:40] <photon> well, it's the installation process. I see "Installing the system" and a progress bar that is stuck at 93%. Not sure which key combinations I can use to see if it's really the OS that crashed.
[20:41] <bgardner> photon: Alt-left and right to move between ttys - does that help?
[20:41] <photon> bgardner: yes, immediate reaction
[20:41] <bgardner> photon: Okay, so not dead just waiting forever for a transfer.  Good, that does help.  One moment
[20:42] <photon> bgardner: according to one tty, last action was 15 minutes ago... : unpacking linux headers
[20:44] <bgardner> photon: Go to vbox settings and "unplug" the network card for the VM for a minute and see how it responds.  Don't shut it down, just do Devices->Network Adapters->Adapter 0->Not Attached
[20:46] <photon> bgardner: doing that now.
[20:48] <photon> bgardner: no change.
[20:48] <bgardner> photon: Okay, then my research suggests either mirrors or ipv6 as possible culprits.  I haven't had this issue, but it may be instructive for you to explore one or both.
[20:49] <photon> bgardner: how do I change mirrors?
[20:50] <bgardner> photon: I knew that would be your next question, hang on never needed to do it before so I don't know the procedure off the top of my head.
[20:50] <photon> bgardner: sure, I'm glad for your help.
[20:52] <photon> bgardner: should it be able to install without any network cables attached?
[20:52] <bgardner> photon: Yes, and I was just about suggest you do that.
[20:53] <bgardner> photon: You can apt-get update && apt-get upgrade afterwards to get brought up to date.  But start with net disabled and just get installed from the CD.
[20:53] <photon> wow, just switched to another tty, and seeing a lot of debug and error messages now :/
[20:53] <bgardner> photon: Anything relevant?
[20:54] <photon> hard to tell, something about not being able to unmount /media, packages missing, mounting /dev/sda on /media failed, etc.
[20:55] <photon> and "anna: DEBUG: resolver (ext4-modules): package doesn't exist (ignored)"
[20:55] <photon> "error: couldn't load because of unsupported optional features (240)"
[20:56] <photon> for ext-4, that is ^
[20:56] <photon> sounds pretty messed up
[20:56] <photon> bgardner: ^
[20:57] <bgardner> photon: That's ... interesting.
[20:58] <photon> it hangs somewhere different each time I restart the VM.
[20:59] <bgardner> photon: If I were you I'd start checking components - test memory, HDD, etc.
[20:59] <bgardner> photon: Yeah, I know it's a VM - but something is wrong.
[20:59] <photon> I've been running a VM with Ubuntu Server 10.10 for days (years) now.
[20:59] <photon> worked flawlessly.
[21:00] <photon> the CD ISO is intact.
[21:00] <photon> I checked.
[21:01] <bgardner> photon: I hear you.  Or maybe someone else here is smarter than me and can offer help, but I'm not sure what to tell you.
[21:01] <photon> wow, now it even hangs when checking the CD for integrity?
[21:02] <photon> but the one tty console is still intact.
[21:04] <photon> bgardner: thanks for your effort so far.
[21:05] <bgardner> photon: Sorry I don't have more, and good luck with it.  I have to go but I might be on later.
[21:05] <photon> alright, thanks.
[21:51] <keithzg> So what could be preventing a computer from getting an IP? Suddenly today my officemate's *buntu tower has decided that "auto eth0" and "iface eth0 inet dhcp" isn't sufficient . . .
[21:58] <genii-o-lantern> keithzg: We are already trying to assist in #kubuntu :)
[22:00] <jamespage> zul, adam_g: we should look at this during 14.04
[22:00] <jamespage> https://github.com/pandemicsyn/swift-ring-master
[22:01] <jamespage> paravoid pointed me at it a few weeks ago when I was winging about how awkward ring management is is swift
[22:41] <zanzacar> I have been working with linux for a while and I was wondering about using sudo service to get statues and start/stop/restart thing vs other means?
[22:42] <zanzacar> Is there a best way to handle dealing with your services? I have always used service and never looked for anything else
[22:50] <sarnold> zanzacar: on ubuntu, services are managed via 'upstart' -- nearly everything you'd ever want to know about upstart is documented here: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[22:50] <sarnold> zanzacar: I think you're probably going to be most interested in chapter 11, Cookbook and Best Practises
[22:55] <zanzacar> sarnold: thanks for getting back to me. Sometimes I never know where the next step in the path is.
[22:56] <sarnold> zanzacar: there is always something new to learn, isn't there? :)
[22:57] <zanzacar> There always is, its just a matter of finding out what it is. Thanks for the link I have some reading to do.


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[05:11] <cpaelzer> bdmurray: at the time the binary package was in universe (up to and including cosmic)
[05:11] <cpaelzer> bdmurray: the src package already had the MIR processed
[05:13] <cpaelzer> bdmurray: and as part of making it onto the desktop CD for said bug it had to be promoted
[05:13] <cpaelzer> but all that already happened afaik
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[14:27] <bdmurray> cpaelzer: afaict open-vm-tools-desktop is in universe for bionic and cosmic
[14:32] <bdmurray> sil2100: Could you look at releasing ubuntu-release-upgrader from -proposed?
[14:54] <sil2100> bdmurray: can I offer a trade? Since I was looking for someone to release my ubuntu-image SRUs ;)
[14:54] <sil2100> bdmurray: anyway, looking!
[14:56] <sil2100> bdmurray: the bionic one seems to be one day too early aging-wise - but let me see if maybe the changes can be released earlier
[14:58] <bdmurray> sil2100: I don't think the bionic one really "needs" early releasing but if you feel like it I won't complain.
[15:00] <Laney> sil2100: getting close to merging the SRU ADT stuff
[15:00] <Laney> I'm making some changes directly and will squash your commits into one, is that ok?
[15:00] <bdmurray> \o/
[15:00] <Laney> that'll be in dry-run mode for some time initially to make sure it will behave ok
[15:02] <Laney> unrelated: why is component-mismatches repeatedly spamming about python 2 stuff?
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[15:07] <sil2100> Laney: sure, thanks!
[15:07] <sil2100> Yeah, let's set it as dry-run for now
[15:07] <sil2100> Since there was only a limited number of testing I could have performed
[15:07] <sil2100> bdmurray: ACK
[15:07] <Laney> |o/
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[16:23] <Laney> sil2100: thinking about not doing the save_progress() call in dry-run mode, what do you think?
[16:25] <Laney> might slow down runs too much
[16:36] <Laney> OK let's leave that on - we can clear the state files out if we want to re-test from scratch for whatever reason.
[16:42] <sil2100> Laney: yeah, it's all experimental code, so best if we can check how it's working with all the features
[16:43] <Laney> sil2100: last question, what's the 'britney' parameter to restore_state() for?
[16:44] <Laney> as far as I can see this is never called with anything other than the default value, and it just means the log message won't be written
[16:44] <sil2100> Oh, uh, I think I had a plan for that once
[16:45] <sil2100> But not anymore, ugh
[16:45] <Laney> can just delete that
[16:45] <Laney> if I'm not missing something :P
[16:45] <sil2100> I guess we can remove it and just leave the logging there
[16:45] <sil2100> ;p
[16:45] <sil2100> Sorry about that
[16:45] <Laney> np, that's what review is for
[16:47] <Laney> ok, let's go
[16:48] <sil2100> If it just dies and crashes in production, not my fault!
[16:48] <Laney> teehee
[16:49] <Laney> it is DONE
[16:49] <sil2100> Laney: should we wait with putting this in production until tomorrow?
[16:49] <sil2100> Since I guess it's close to EOD for you as well
[16:49] <Laney> nah I'm watching it
[16:49] <sil2100> Ok \o/
[16:49] <Laney> well it should default to 'no', I'll just make sure it doesn't break completely like a syntax error
[16:50] <Laney> will do the dry-run thing tomorrow indeed
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[18:34] <cpaelzer> bdmurray: yes open-vm-tools-desktop is in universe for bionic and cosmic, but not in disco and later
[18:34] <cpaelzer> bdmurray: the bug you had linked had no SRU associated
[18:35] <cpaelzer> the change was made in the desktop-installer or seeds and only for later releases
[18:39] <bdmurray> cpaelzer: its in Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed for the cosmic upload of open-vm-tools in the unapproved queue
[18:40] <bdmurray> cpaelzer: it being bug 1819207
[18:41] <cpaelzer> bdmurray: now I see
[18:41] <cpaelzer> bdmurray: thanks, let me explan
[18:41] <cpaelzer> bdmurray: there was one part of the work in open-vm-tools (the modalias)
[18:41] <cpaelzer> that is part of the regular backports
[18:41] <cpaelzer> but that doesn't make it need to be in main
[18:42] <cpaelzer> and there was a second change in the desktop installer which based on that modalias can now detect and install it
[18:42] <cpaelzer> to do so it needed to go on their install image
[18:42] <cpaelzer> but that change in the installer is only >=Disco
[18:42] <cpaelzer> in open-vm-tools just the change to provide a modalias is part of the regular MRE backport
[18:43] <bdmurray> cpaelzer: So why is the "Note: ..." in the bug description? Is just leftover from the Disco work?
[18:44] <cpaelzer> yes
[18:44] <cpaelzer> sorry
[18:45] <cpaelzer> I can clean it up if it helps
[18:45] <cpaelzer> now that I know how this was triggered I know what to modify
[18:48] <bdmurray> cpaelzer: I think it would help as I may not get back to the SRU today.
[18:49] <cpaelzer> ok
[18:52] <cpaelzer> bdmurray: done
[18:52] <cpaelzer> bdmurray: thanks for helping to clarify this
[21:06] <rcj> Hey all, can I get someone to review livecd-rootfs in the upload queues for cosmic, bionic, and xenial?
[21:08] <rcj> bug #1829938 ^


[14:28] <rick_h_> jrwren: lol
[14:28] <rick_h_> jrwren: no, that's not the issue at hand, carry on
[14:29] <rick_h_> ok, I'm having a hard time this morning going "yay k8s!" going through this https://github.com/vmware/harbor/blob/master/docs/kubernetes_deployment.md
[14:33] <jrwren> rick_h_: dude... i'm so upset with k8s right now. CronJobs are TERRIBLE!!!
[14:34] <rick_h_> jrwren: I was going to reply to your post on that
[14:34] <rick_h_> love how "I want to do X, what's the worse off container method of X?"
[14:35] <jrwren> hahahahahaha, exactly.
[14:36] <rick_h_> I figured it was a bit snarky to reply publicly though heh
[14:38] <jrwren> hehehehe
[14:39] <jrwren> The thing is, snappy is the only thing that autoupdates.
[14:43] <rick_h_> ?
[14:43] <rick_h_> oh you mean you need cron jobs to update something?
[14:44] <rick_h_> damn, 800MB tar to copy around and load images
[14:44] <rick_h_> wheee
[14:47] <cmaloney> k8s - when you want to automate yourself out of devops by trying to figure out how to automate your install process
[14:48] <rick_h_> watch the video: https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2018/03/introducing-Skaffold-Easy-and-repeatable-Kubernetes-development.html
[14:48] <rick_h_> they autorun "make run"
[14:49] <jrwren> rick_h_: well, its docker, so its a 30MB layered docker image, but yup... that is the "CronJob"
[14:50] <jrwren> rick_h_: makefiles are hard, Dockerfiles are easier.  right?  lolz
[14:54] <rick_h_> sweet, next eng sprint is in portland so get to mountain bike in 4 new states this year
[14:54] <rick_h_> put that travel bag to good use
[15:04] <jrwren> nice!
[15:06] <rick_h_> man, 5000 feet of decent... that's insane
[15:11] <cmaloney> rick_h_: That's awesome!
[15:11] <cmaloney> (re: the bike)
[15:11] <cmaloney> I want to like Docker but man it just feels frustrating as hell
[15:14] <rick_h_> so it's cool to grab something and docker run it locally and have it all up and running straight form the image like a VM
[15:15] <rick_h_> there's something here, I just need to get over enough of the learning curve to get it I guess. I just don't get the loading of 22 yaml files of config to run something in k8s
[15:15] <rick_h_> not sure how that was the 'easy' path yet I guess
[15:20] <jrwren> its not easy.
[15:20] <jrwren> its reproducable.
[15:20] <jrwren> easy is turn on an ec2 instance and treat it like a server from 1997
[15:33] <cmaloney> heh
[15:33] <cmaloney> s/easy/well-understood/ ;)
[17:48] <greg-g> cattle not pets and all
[17:48] <greg-g> and yeah, I have a ripe atlas hooked up to my router :)
[17:49] <greg-g> not that the bay area wasn't covered well or anything, I just felt like being cool
[17:49] <jrwren> Ann Arbor only has a few.
[17:50] <greg-g> that surprises me
[17:50] <greg-g> figured there'd be more
[17:50] <cmaloney> Maybe we're a little more leery of hooking foreign devices to our internet connections
[17:51] <Scary_Guy> still don't trust it
[17:52] <cmaloney> Yeah, I'd rather trust some guy in Poland making Tomato firmware than a large company of intenet probes.
[17:52] <cmaloney> thankyouverymuch. :)
[17:53] <greg-g> ripe are good people, at least according to my DD friends who also have them in their homes
[17:53] <greg-g> I mean, it ain't no amazon echo :P
[17:53] <cmaloney> (I'm being somewhat cheeky)
[17:53] <greg-g> (figured ;) )
[17:54] <Scary_Guy> but at least I can look at the source code and compile that firmware myself if I so choose
[17:54] <cmaloney> THat was a slight dig at Eero et al with their closed cloud-based Internet Router firmware
[17:54] <greg-g> Scary_Guy: of? an echo?
[17:54] <greg-g> oh, no, the router with tomato
[17:54] <Scary_Guy> and I use OpenWRT
[17:56] <Scary_Guy> unfortunately it's still on Linksys firmware, which I do have reservations about.  but there aren't many good open hardware routers out there that I know of
[17:57] <Scary_Guy> that don't cost an arm and a leg*
[18:05] <Scary_Guy> also https://mycroft.ai is a thing too
[18:05] <jrwren> "a few" a dozen in the county total, if i remember what I saw this morning.
[22:07] <greg-g> hah, when your team tries to one-up on language beauty to do a thing: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P6875
[22:09] <cmaloney> heh
[22:10] <cmaloney> That code up top doesn't look like Ruby, or perhaps Ruby is starting to look more like Python. :)
[22:11] <cmaloney> Actually, the first one does look like ruby now that I look at it a second time
[22:12] <cmaloney> And by  "look like ruby" I mean that I have NFC what this line does: end.find do |vm|
[22:13] <greg-g> :)
[22:13] <greg-g> plus it's Ruby written by someone who used to do mostly ruby but who's been doing more python and Go lately and went back to Ruby for this quick script
[22:14] <cmaloney> Is that why it looks like someone took some Python and said "let's throw in Perl to make it more readable".
[22:18] <cmaloney> seriously, my Google fu doesn't have anything for "end.find do"...
[22:18] <cmaloney> I mean, I sort of get what it's doing but I'm sitting here parsing it rather than understanding it


[01:51] <ScottK> Please update kopete from bzr before uploading.
[07:54] <smartboyhw> How's kalzium yofel ?
[07:57] <shadeslayer> seems to have built?
[07:59] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, oh really?
[08:00] <smartboyhw> Hmm, it's good for release I think:P
[08:12]  * smartboyhw calls for testers
[08:13] <smartboyhw> !testers | If you are a Kubuntu ninja, please test 4.11.0 in ninjas ppa saucy
[09:01] <yofel> kopete updated
[09:42] <smartboyhw> yofel, weird. I have KDE with XMir here and it feels quicK:O
[09:43] <yofel> well, they did improve it. And on a fast enough machine you never really noticed the speed difference
[09:43] <yofel> it's mostly rendering glitches
[09:43] <smartboyhw> Even the typing is quick:O
[09:44] <debfx> it's quick because you don't notice the 10% overhead? ;)
[09:44] <smartboyhw> debfx, ?
[09:45] <debfx> that's what the -devel mail says
[11:35] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1200755] Vlc: Vlc re-opens 28 px down from closing geometry @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1200755 (by Doug McMahon)
[14:29] <ScottK> smartboyhw: I made some changes for kopete in bzr, please make sure the package gets updated.
[14:29] <smartboyhw> ScottK, alright
[14:32] <ScottK> xnox: If qbittorrent on your list of stuff to fix due to your boost transition.
[14:32] <ScottK> s/If/Is//
[14:32] <kubotu> ScottK meant: "xnox: Is qbittorrent on your list of stuff to fix due to your boost transition."
[14:33] <smartboyhw> ScottK, done.
[14:34] <ScottK> Thanks.  Hopefully that'll clear the powerpc FTBFS.
[14:34] <smartboyhw> ScottK, how do you that powerpc has FTBFS
[14:34] <smartboyhw> From 4.10.97?
[14:35]  * yofel had already updated kopete, but oh well..
[14:46] <ScottK> smartboyhw: Yes.  From 4.10.07
[14:47] <smartboyhw> ScottK, sure (it's .97 not .07 lol)
[14:47] <ScottK> s/07/97//
[14:47] <kubotu> ScottK meant: "smartboyhw: Yes.  From 4.10.97"
[17:41] <xnox> ScottK: ping me about broken stuff and I'll look into it. Otherwise i was going to wait next full archive rebuild.
[21:26] <yofel> allee: ok, checked again, you were right about the kipi crash. For some reason ksnapshot is linked against the wrong libkipi version o.O
[21:27] <yofel> great, ksnapshot has an unversioned build-dep on libkipi-dev
[21:28] <yofel> no wonder this happened