[02:34] <MavBlue> hello
[09:02] <jarnos> Is Thunar Volume Manager (thunar-volman) supposed to work? I think it is not even called even if  volume management is enabled in Thunar's preferences.
[09:07] <cub> jarnos, how do you mean? When I plug in camera, iphone or usb sticks they seems to be handle automatically. I have the Volume Management ticked in the Thunar preferences and I don't remember ticking that box myself, so I suppose it's by default.
[09:16] <jarnos> cub, auto mount seems to work with my USB stick, but not with my phone when I connect it via USB and set it in mass storage mode.
[09:20] <jarnos> It seems that thunar-volman is not called at all. On the other hand, thunar-volman could not handle auto mounting as such due to bug https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9193
[09:21] <jarnos> How is auto mounting handled then in Ubuntu Studio?
[09:22] <cub> which version of ubuntu studio? I'm on 12.04 and it just works.
[09:23] <jarnos> cub, 13.10
[09:23] <cub> hmm shouldn't be any difference, but I'm not sure.
[09:24] <cfhowlett> jarnos, there are actually 2 file managers; thunar and nautilus.  Try both
[09:27] <jarnos> cfhowlett, really? I don't see such a dependence. I think I installed nautilus with dropbox.
[09:28] <cfhowlett> jarnos, I didn't say dependence.  I merely shared that there are 2 wm's present in ubuntustudio.  I found that one (don't remember which) accepted my mass storage phone without issue.  one would not.
[09:28] <cfhowlett> jarnos, and dropbox does require nautilus so --- yeah
[09:36] <jarnos> cfhowlett, IIRC it does, when you install it using the instructions https://www.dropbox.com/install, but you are right, nautilus is only a suggested package for dropbox.
[09:37] <jarnos> cfhowlett, then why `aptitude show ubuntustudio-desktop ` does not list nautilus?
[09:37] <cfhowlett> jarnos, i think it's the only wm that offers integration
[09:37] <cfhowlett> jarnos, could be that it's only installed with dropbox.
[09:38] <cfhowlett> jarnos, run terminal: apt-cache policy nautilus
[09:38] <jarnos> cfhowlett, so?
[09:39] <cfhowlett> jarnos, see your installed version ...
[09:39] <jarnos> cfhowlett, why?
[09:40] <cfhowlett> jarnos, nautilus appears not to be present in ubuntustudio-desktop as you stated.
[09:52] <cub> no nautilus shouldn't be included by default
[10:42] <jarnos> And even if it was included, it would not auto mount as such.
[12:24] <unready> hey guys. i have a little issue with ubuntustudio: everytime i click 'log off', the os goes into super lag mode and I have to wait for about three minutes for the log off display to pop up
[12:25] <unready> any ideas what could be causing this?
[12:25] <cfhowlett> unready, encryption?
[12:25] <cfhowlett> that slows down both my login/logout to some degree - not 3 minutes thought
[12:25] <unready> aha, yeah i actually measured the time it takes, a good 3 mins
[12:26] <unready> so i can just disable this?
[12:26] <cfhowlett> unready, confirm you are encrypting?
[12:26] <unready> if it is on by default i guess i am?
[12:26] <unready> sorry, i'm super new to linux
[12:26] <cfhowlett> unready, not on by default
[12:27] <cfhowlett> unready, no apologies needed.
[12:27] <unready> :)
[12:27] <cfhowlett> unready, next time, observe the terminal display of items being shut down
[12:27] <cfhowlett> that'll guide you
[12:27] <unready> ok, so I just launch the terminal window and then try to log off?
[12:27] <cfhowlett> in fact, open a terminal and issue sudo init 15 (i think) and watch
[12:28] <unready> ok, thanks!
[12:29] <unready> when i enter 'sudo init 15' it says illegal runlevel: 15
[12:31] <cfhowlett> sudo init 15
[12:31] <cfhowlett> sorry.  it's  a system level command so - sudo it is
[12:34] <unready> hmm, still doesn't recognize it, same output 'illegal runlevel: 15'
[12:42] <cfhowlett> d'oh!  init 0     clearly something I rarely do
[12:42] <cfhowlett> shutdown -h     is also useful
[16:03] <Golfgeo> Hi all
[16:04] <Golfgeo> Have been trying to reduce the audio noise on my recordings and once read there was a application on ubuntu studio that could do it in real time. Need limiting and perhaps some compression/gating in real time.
[16:05] <Golfgeo> If anyone can give me a pointer to the name or names of tools/applications that can do this?
[16:10] <cfhowlett> Golfgeo, must it be real-time?  vastly easier is post-processing
[16:11] <cfhowlett> Golfgeo,  anyway the "experts" are on #opensourcemusicians
[16:11] <Golfgeo> cfhowlett: I've been doing it in post for some time now, but since I'm broadcasting live it would be much nicer to the live audiance
[16:12] <cfhowlett> Golfgeo, got it.  ask the #opensourcemusicians channel.  Also your hardware settings matter but I don't know enough to describe exactly what needs be set
[16:13] <Golfgeo> cfhowlett: k, will do and thanks :-)
[17:17] <hamidreza> Hello guys!
[17:19] <hamidreza> I have a useful way to remove safely external disks. only unmount the first partition of that disk.
[21:21] <unready> guys, how do you approach file and folder organization? I'm a bit OCD and I cringed a bit when a saw the filesystem folder structure
[21:21] <unready> just make another partition and keep all my workfiles there?
[21:21] <unready> any tips?
[21:21] <unready> for a linux noob :)
[22:15] <holstein> unready: depends
[22:16] <holstein> unready: i have a seperate tracking hard drive for my production machine.. i keep a sessions directory and sub directories as needed for what im working on, and whatever expoerts
[22:17] <holstein> i then just mirror that to an external hard drive for backup, as well as session backup to DVD or bluray as needed
[22:17] <holstein> on my other machines, i just do whatever makes sense to me for the job
[23:20] <unready> holstein: thanks, makes sense!


 Todays ISO - build failure
 That is unfortunate. Looks like it might be network woes again. (re @Leokolb: Todays ISO - build failure)
 Somewhat related I asked to have our size warning increased to 2.8G so we are not OVERSIZED for beta.
 I requested a rebuild on today's iso
[22:52] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Jammy Beta] (20220328.1) has been added
[22:58] <kc2bez> There is an image to zsync ^
[23:01] <guiverc> thanks kc2bez
[23:01] <kc2bez> of course


[03:15] <nigelb> heh
[03:15] <nigelb> Morning all
[04:00] <evilnhandler> vish: Sorry about not getting back to you (I've been a bit busy). I've been asking around (I personally don't have such a server) and have so far been unsuccessful. I still have a few more people to try though
[04:51] <duanedesign> hello nigelb
[05:40] <vish> evilnhandler: no worries.. do let me know if you find someone who can help. :)
[06:17] <nhandler> vish: Will do.
[07:59] <czajkowski> duanedesign: did you do the screen cast on signing the CoC ?
[18:01] <vish> who owns the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>id?
[18:08] <jcastro> vish: nice, did you get omg to highlight 5 bugs?
[18:08] <vish> jcastro: yea..
[18:09] <vish> jcastro: the link to the UDS photos expired :( , i got time to look at it today and had not even clicked the link earlier and now link has expired.. :(
[18:10] <vish> is there any other link to those photos?
[18:10] <jcastro> I missed the chance to get them
[18:10] <jcastro> surely someone has them
[18:12] <vish> duanedesign / maco / Pendulum / jussi  ^? anyone have those pics? pls send them to me :)
[18:12] <vish> huh, they should have mentioned that the link will expire.. ;p
[18:12] <maco> which pics huh what?
[18:12] <jussi> nope, not i
[18:13] <vish> maco: the Official UDS fotos..
[18:13] <vish> maco: it was from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>addy, sent to a bunch or UDS attendees..
[18:13] <maco> no idea
[18:14] <vish> heh, you are even better than me ;p
[19:06] <vish> duanedesign / Pendulum : unping.. i got it.. :)
[19:21] <nhandler> vish: I'm not positive, but I think Belinda Lopez might own that address
[19:22] <vish> nhandler: cool! thx..
[19:23] <vish> oh, if anyone else has missed the fotos, do ping me.. i'll upload them in dropbox :)
[19:24] <nhandler> vish: Maybe add them to the UDS-N wiki page?
[19:24] <vish> nhandler: its 217mb, i dont think wiki allows that..
[19:25] <nhandler> vish: The wiki allows a link though ;) And you could always compress the picture a bit
[19:25] <vish> ;)
[19:27] <vish> well, then i'd have to have /not/ move copy ever … from my dropbox..
[19:29] <vish> the* copy
[19:32] <nhandler> vish: Toss it on people.ubuntu.com
[19:33] <vish> ah ha!
[19:33] <vish> nhandler: thx.. will do that..
[19:41] <popey> vish: the only mail i have in my archive relating to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>came from Billy Cina. She's now moved on from Training dept I believe, but still, I wouldn't be surprised if the mail still goes to her.
[19:43] <vish> oh, well..
[19:44] <vish> until n-handler mentioned it i thought it was one of the new addy for UDS co-ordination.. not sure why that id was used for the UDS though
[19:44] <vish> bah, that would have pinged him! ;p
[19:45] <vish> someday! someday! i will bypass nhandler's highlights ;)
[19:45] <nhandler> vish: Don't even bother trying not to hilight me ;)
[19:47] <vish> n h a n d l e r !!!
[19:48] <vish> if even that highlights then ;p
[19:49] <nhandler> vish: Nope. That didn't hilight me ;)
[19:49] <vish> \o/
[19:50] <nhandler> Now it does ;)
[19:50] <vish> but i beat it once.. thats fine :)
[20:40] <popey> vish: I tend to get my UDS mails from individuals like jono/jorge/marina
[20:42] <vish> popey: yea, i got from them too, but some of the mails this time were from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>as well … this photos one included
[20:44] <popey> what's the goal? why do you want to know about that address?
[20:46] <vish> popey: well, initially i wanted to know if it was like<EMAIL_ADDRESS>addy, but now no goal, got the pics ;)
[20:46] <popey> ok
[20:47] <nhandler> vish: Looking through my logs, all I found was nigelb asking the same thing on 11/15 and czajkowski saying it used to be dinda and popey saying Billy probably still gets the mail though.
[20:48] <vish> popey: i dint know how to contact and request the link again.. and was confused..
[20:48] <vish> nhandler: the plot thickens?
[20:48] <vish> j/k :)


[06:45] <nealmcb> /msg ChanServ access #ubuntu-us-co list
[06:45]  * nealmcb sighs
[18:56] <machetie> hi
[18:56] <machetie> does anyone have a good hardy howto for file sharing
[18:57] <erUSUL> machetie: for help with ubuntu and its software ask in #ubuntu
[18:58] <machetie> thx


[11:46] <cmaloney> norning
[11:56] <wolfger> gninrom
[11:56] <wolfger> gin rum?
[11:56] <wolfger> Wow, morning sounds so much better backwards! :-D
[11:57] <rick_h> morning
[12:01] <cmaloney> whee
[12:04] <wolfger> I need a day of sleep. cmaloney, you still unemployed? Want to be me for a day? :-D
[12:05] <wolfger> Although I think my boss would notice our physical differences when you show up for the weekly meeting.
[12:36] <cmaloney> wolfger: Still unemployed, but I'm trying to stay away from auto companies and their ilk
[12:37] <cmaloney> unsuccessfully, I might add. Have an interview tomorrow. :(
[12:37] <hpucks> Tough to do around here.
[12:38] <cmaloney> Yeah, no kidding
[12:38] <cmaloney> between auto, insurance, and marketing I'm starting to wonder if we do anything else.
[12:39] <hpucks> hm.
[12:39] <hpucks> nope.
[12:39] <wolfger> brewing
[12:39] <wolfger> :-D
[13:20] <jrwren> That is the brave job. Open a brewery. Make it work.
[13:50] <shakes808> morning1
[13:50] <shakes808> !
[13:51] <shakes808> cmaloney: what happened?  What are you looking for?
[13:54] <cmaloney> I was laid off from Morpace in September
[13:54] <cmaloney> looking for Python / DevOps positions
[13:55] <shakes808> that's shitty.  sorry to hear that.
[13:55] <cmaloney> hopefully remote, hopefully not in marketing / automotive / insurance
[13:55] <shakes808> i will keep my ears open for you
[13:55] <shakes808> have you tried a recruiter?
[13:55] <cmaloney> No worries. Thanks. :)
[13:56] <cmaloney> yes, and much like the monolith from 2001 they don't quite know what to make of me
[13:56] <jrwren> wow, he says python /devops and then you say, that's shitty.?  :p   j/k
[13:56] <cmaloney> jrwren: It's what I have on my resume, not whare I necessarily want to be, but there it is. :)
[13:56] <cmaloney> not on the resume? Doesn't exist. ;)
[13:56] <shakes808> at CHC tonight, my buddy works for a recruiting firm: relapath? or something like that.  would you be opposed to me giving your to him?
[13:56] <shakes808> jrwren: that was towards the lay off :P
[13:57] <cmaloney> sure: http://decafbad.net/files/resume.pdf
[13:57] <shakes808> sounds good.  I will pass that along tonight
[13:57] <cmaloney> though I'm a little recruiter-hostile.
[13:57] <shakes808> haha
[13:57] <shakes808> understandable
[13:58] <cmaloney> Thanks. :)
[13:58] <shakes808> you don't want to be farmed out?  :)
[13:58] <cmaloney> I don't want to be a call center for every daft idea of what people think I want.
[13:59] <shakes808> I have another buddy that has his own consulting company with a couple of clients, I can see he he needs a second as well.  He is contracted to the company I am working for currently 2 days a week.  I will see him Friday.
[14:00] <cmaloney> Feel free to share it as you see fit.
[14:01] <shakes808> sounds good.  hope i can help
[14:01] <cmaloney> You already have. Thanks. :)
[14:06] <jrwren> recruiters get a bad rep. recruiters are like programmers. there are good ones, there are bad ones.
[14:08] <shakes808> it is more of a contract house
[16:11] <shakes808> cmaloney: i passed your resume to my buddy.  we will see what comes of it.
[16:12] <cmaloney> Thanks
[16:16] <shakes808> no problem boss
[16:53] <shakes808> cmaloney: my buddy said he will submit it tonight to his contact there.
[16:59] <cmaloney> Thank you.
[16:59] <shakes808> and I will still talk to my other buddy to see if he has anything.  but that one might be more spotty than the former


[13:40] <mbruzek> Good morning Juju.  Question.  Where does the bash function ch_get_file live?
[13:41] <mbruzek> marcoceppi ^ ?
[13:42] <marcoceppi> mbruzek: that's a name I've not heard in a long long time
[13:42] <mbruzek> One of the lesser used charms is failing to find this function, I vaguely remember it.
[13:43] <mbruzek> It uses wget and checks the hash value.
[13:43] <marcoceppi> http://i.imgur.com/YO0lXro.gif
[13:43] <mbruzek> marcoceppi, the charm liferay is FAILING to find it actually.
[13:43] <marcoceppi> mbruzek: yeah, that's charmhelpers 1.0
[13:44] <marcoceppi> the charm will likely need to add a PPA to continue to function on precise
[13:44] <mbruzek> Does it no longer exist in the latest CH version?
[13:45] <marcoceppi> no
[13:46] <marcoceppi> current charmhelpers is only python
[13:46] <marcoceppi> atm
[13:46] <marcoceppi> this is when charmhelpers lived in charmtools
[13:46] <marcoceppi> pre charm-tool 1.0.0
[13:46] <mbruzek> Well it looks like it tries to install charm-helper-sh which can not be found.
[13:46] <marcoceppi> right
[13:46] <marcoceppi> the charm needs a ppa
[13:47] <mbruzek> Add a ppa or change the code to use wget?
[13:47] <marcoceppi> https://launchpad.net/~charmers/+archive/ubuntu/charm-helpers
[13:47] <marcoceppi> add a ppa, this also does the verification
[13:47] <marcoceppi> will only work on precise
[13:47] <marcoceppi> the ppa is to enable those older charm to continue working
[13:47] <mbruzek> Ok thanks.
[13:51] <jcastro> marcoceppi, is today new queue day?
[13:51] <marcoceppi> jcastro: open your eyes and seeee
[13:52] <jcastro> I still see the old queue
[13:52] <lazyPower> JoshStrobl: I do actually, i'll send it to you in a pm.
[13:52] <jcastro> oh, should I get the gui guys to fix the URL?
[13:52] <marcoceppi> jcastro: well, yeah
[13:52] <marcoceppi> jcastro: http://review.juju.solutions/
[13:53] <marcoceppi> jcastro: but not right now
[13:53] <marcoceppi> there's still things to be sorted in new rev queue
[13:53] <marcoceppi> well
[13:53] <marcoceppi> do what you think is right
[13:53] <jcastro> well, we're the only ones who use the link
[13:53] <jcastro> so let's go all in
[13:53] <marcoceppi> sounds good to me
[14:02] <lazyPower> marcoceppi: looks sharp man! Nice work on applying the design bits
[14:30] <jcastro> heya lazyPower
[14:30] <jcastro> did we ever get logstash on trusty? I can't seem to find it
[14:30] <lazyPower> it needed tests
[14:30] <lazyPower> and i was having a big issue with amulet / sentries blocking the tests
[14:30] <jcastro> ack
[14:30] <lazyPower> but baseline - is no, its not in trusty yet.
[14:30] <jcastro> which is the most current one
[14:30] <jcastro> logstash-agent or logstash-indexer?
[14:35] <jcastro> lazyPower, ^
[14:35] <lazyPower> https://code.launchpad.net/~lazypower/charms/trusty/logstash/trunk
[14:36] <lazyPower> this is a port of the indexer, feature 2 landing would be adding the agent - its a unified deliverable now
[14:36] <lazyPower> ready for the kickass part? this woudl also include kibana with feature 2
[14:36] <lazyPower> *an up to date kibana
[14:36] <jcastro> ok I'll just link to your personal branch then
[14:37] <jcastro> it's a subordinate right?
[14:39] <lazyPower> Nope. its a stand alone charm
[14:39] <lazyPower> ahhh so the agent would need to be a sub. ok - i follow where you're going with this.
[14:39] <jcastro> I think one of the old ones was a sub
[14:40] <lazyPower> yeah, the agent would have been a sub.
[14:41] <lazyPower> bummer I wasn't thinking about that, but upgrading the sub will be fairly straight forward with the work that went into the agent.
[14:41] <lazyPower> s/into the agent/into the indexer/
[16:36] <kwmonroe> mbruzek, have you come across any charms with source behind a "free registration" wall?
[16:37] <kwmonroe> i'm charming db2 express -- there's an older version in the partners ppa (which is super easy), but the latest version isn't very programatically accessible from ibm.com.
[16:38] <mbruzek> kwmonroe no I have not but I could take a look
[16:39] <kwmonroe> so i think the options are either update the partners ppa, or stash the tar.gz someplace more accessible (assuming the fine print says that's ok)
[16:39] <mbruzek> kwmonroe, could you get the required info (I suspect email, name,etc) and send an HTTP PUT ?
[16:39] <mbruzek> kwmonroe, can you link me to the wall?
[16:40] <kwmonroe> mbruzek, here's the wall:  https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/iwm/web/preLogin.do?source=swg-db2expressc&S_PKG=dllinux64
[16:42] <mbruzek> kwmonroe, this one looks particularly hard with the user having to register.
[16:43] <kwmonroe> yeah mbruzek - i'll take a look at the form behind "proceed without an ibmid" and see if i can PUT it.
[16:44] <kwmonroe> but even so, that seems a fragile way to get the source :/
[16:44] <mbruzek> kmonroe talk with arosales about getting it added to the partner ppa
[16:44] <mbruzek> kwmonroe, that is likely the path of least resistance.
[16:47] <kwmonroe> ack mbruzek - thx
[16:48] <arosales> kwmonroe: adding to the partner PPA I think is a longer term solution that we should take a look at. For that we just need to go through the ubuntu dev process
[16:48] <arosales> kwmonroe: ther other is putting the DB2 binary local to the charm
[16:48] <arosales> kwmonroe: you need to have an EULA in the charm and a config set for the charm user to accept. mbruzek did this for the websphere liberty lite charm.
[16:49] <arosales> kwmonroe: and the third option is building a .deb on lp in a custom PPA
[16:50] <arosales> kwmonroe: putting the binary locally may be your fastest option with an EULA config set
[16:50] <arosales> in parrallel we can work on updating the partner ppa
[16:50] <arosales> locally to the charm that is.
[16:50] <kwmonroe> gotcha arosales - thanks for the options.. i'm gonna put my legal cap on and make sure this is "free to deploy" like the marketing flyer says.
[16:50] <arosales> kwmonroe: ping mbruzek and check out what he did for the websphere liberty charm
[16:51] <mbruzek> arosales, IIRC the websphere charm downloaded the code, but yeah there was an "accept-ibm-license" configuration option in there.
[16:51] <arosales> mbruzek: ya and I think the "accept-ibm-license" portion is the part kwmonroe is intersted in.
[16:52] <arosales> mbruzek: given kwmonroe puts the db2 binary locally to the charm for now.
[16:53] <kwmonroe> yeah, i'll take a look at liberty and bug mbruzek
[19:57] <JoshStrobl> hey marcoceppi, loving the new review queue! great work man!
[20:00] <hatch> is there a way to force destroy a machine on a local deployment? 1.20.6-trusty-amd64
[20:01] <hatch> it appears to be stuck in pending
[20:04] <hatch> help says to use --force but using it says that it's not defined
[20:04] <hatch> oh well, hulk smashing :)
[20:05]  * arosales geting some review queue time in.
[20:05] <arosales> marcoceppi +1 JoshStrobl's comments on the review queue
[20:06] <arosales> hatch: is there a service on the machine?
[20:06] <marcoceppi> hatch: use terminate-machine with force
[20:06] <marcoceppi> should work
[20:06] <hatch> arosales: nope it was just hangin out in pending
[20:06] <hatch> marcoceppi: ok I'll remember that for next time
[20:07] <marcoceppi> destroy-unit and service don't have a force
[20:08] <arosales> JoshStrobl taking a look at https://github.com/juju/docs/pull/156 now
[20:08] <arosales> mbruzek: ^
[20:08] <mbruzek> I will take a look
[20:09] <arosales> mbruzek: you already commented. This is in regards to the Charm Review Process doc
[20:13] <JoshStrobl> arosales, warming up some food now, will review after :P
[20:15] <JoshStrobl> back
[20:15] <JoshStrobl> arosales, oh, I misread
[20:15] <arosales> JoshStrobl: no action from you atm. I was just stating I was going to review
[20:15] <JoshStrobl> arosales, I thought you said "take a look"
[20:15] <JoshStrobl> fail :D
[20:16] <arosales> ah. My IRC grammer is horrible so I thought it may have been that
[20:16] <arosales> and my message was kind of vague
[20:16] <JoshStrobl> arosales, no no, I just misread, thats all
[20:16] <arosales> in any case taking a look now
[20:16] <JoshStrobl> seriously my fault
[20:16] <JoshStrobl> alrighty
[20:17] <jose> marcoceppi: congratulations on the new revq, looks awesome!
[20:19] <JoshStrobl> mbruzek, sorry I haven't gotten around to working on the reference-reviewers doc yet, been busy with failing tests on some unrelated stuff today. will get around to it tomorrow morning and have something for you to review then.
[20:20] <hatch> marcoceppi:  just fyi - I somehow ended up in the same state and terminate worked thanks
[20:20] <mbruzek> No worries JoshStrobl I am up to my ears in work too.
[20:20] <JoshStrobl> mbruzek, yea I imagine a lot of crunching even before the sprint!
[20:21]  * mbruzek nods
[20:26] <JoshStrobl> arosales, going to be afk to help the wife clean our newly rescued old cat, just fyi
[20:27] <arosales>  JoshStrobl: ack, I'll post comment in the git pull request
[20:40] <jcastro> marcoceppi, bah crap
[20:40] <jcastro> we forgot something, where to report bugs on the new queue
[20:41] <jcastro> want them on issues?
[21:31] <JoshStrobl> arosales, has the storm ended? my email is finally quiet :P
[21:31] <JoshStrobl> arosales, writing a lengthy response via the comment section in GH ;)
[21:32] <marcoceppi> jcastro:  on gh
[21:33] <arosales> JoshStrobl: storm ended :-)
[21:33] <JoshStrobl> \o/
[21:33] <JoshStrobl> Thanks for all the great feedback.
[21:36] <arosales> JoshStrobl: np. I errored on being more verbose hopeully you filter mail ;-)
[21:36] <JoshStrobl> arosales, yea, it all goes to a Juju folder in Thunderbird :P


[01:29] <glitchd> how can i get synergy to start before login so i can use the keyboard from the host machine to login on the guest?
[06:17] <FireStriker> you can install any DE ontop of xubuntu right
[06:17] <cfhowlett> yes, but let's stay in ONE channel to avoid cross-chatter
[06:17] <FireStriker> ok
[06:19] <FireStriker> soz i talk here about xubntu and talk in ubuntu about ubuntu and any flavors im looking at using
[06:19] <cfhowlett> yep
[06:20] <FireStriker> i have a xubuntu laptop and a hp win8 laptop wich i dont know what to put on as a dual boot atm
[06:20] <cfhowlett> ok
[07:50] <FireStriker> Can you add the pop when you change volume like in lubuntu and xubuntu
[09:42] <xubuntu13w> Bonjour,  on peut parler français ?
[09:48] <xubuntu13w> I am a new french user of xubuntu. I install it without problem. But I am with a qwerty keyboard! Why? Thank.
[09:56] <xubuntu13w> Bye, have a good day .
[11:49] <inf3rno> can somebody help me? xd
[11:50] <knome> inf3rno, ask the real question and find out
[11:51] <inf3rno> i am trying to install xubuntu 16.04, what i need is drive encryption and gpt style partition
[11:52] <inf3rno> how should i do that? as far as i can see the installer / something else does not contain any of that. at least by other distros there were options like bios boot area / efi partition for the small fat32 the gpt needs.
[11:53] <knome> select the "something else" partitioning option
[11:53] <inf3rno> done
[11:53] <knome> you should be able to achieve things there
[11:54] <knome> if not, then i don't know
[11:54] <knome> you probably want to do partitioning before installing in that case
[11:54] <knome> (if that doesn't work, that is)
[11:54] <inf3rno> maybe
[11:54] <knome> the installer is the same as for ubuntu, so if you find a tutorial for either...
[12:02] <inf3rno> http://imgur.com/a/xAJRv here is a screenshot from the ubuntu 14 installer... i dont have that bios boot area option by xubuntu 16 (i did not test the ubuntu 16 installer)
[16:23] <frankiee_> Is it normal for the xubuntu 12 installation to revert to console mode? I'm seeing a bunch of messages (dear lord I hope I don't have to type all of them), ending with [649.63007] EIP: [<...>] wdev_priv.part.7-0x3/0x5 [ul] SS:ESP 0068:c1aa1cec
[16:24] <frankiee_> I'm trying to install Xubuntu 12.04 (and later do a `do-release-upgrade`) due to my non-PAE CPU (Intel Celeron M 1.40GHz) HP Pavilion dv1000 laptop.
[16:25] <frankiee_> I'll let the install run for a while longer...
[16:36] <frankiee_> Must I install an even older version of xubuntu than v12 for a non-PAE kernel?
[16:38] <genii> 12.04 is last without PAE
[16:41] <glitchd> lol frankiee_ !
[16:42] <glitchd> frankiee_, whats ur beef with pae?
[16:47] <frankiee_> Got this oooooooooold laptop =)
[16:50] <MoBeats> did you have any luck with forcepae frankiee_ ?
[16:54] <glitchd> frankiee_, oooooooold laptops can be fun
[16:54] <glitchd> frankiee_, i have several
[17:02] <glitchd> frankiee_, again, why dont you want to use a pae kernel?
[17:04] <MoBeats> I believe he has an old Celeron that doesn't properly support pae
[17:05] <glitchd> thx MoBeats
[17:05] <MoBeats> :)
[17:20] <frankiee_> lol
[17:20] <frankiee_> MoBeats great to see you again man =)
[17:21] <flocculant> frankiee_: have you actually tried the 16.04 iso using the forcepae option?
[17:21] <flocculant> cos lubuntu 16.04 installs with forcepae
[17:23] <flocculant> *apparently* ...
[17:23] <frankiee_> i'm trying to install xubuntu rather than lubuntu and in the xubuntu install i don't see no pae option
[17:23] <flocculant> frankiee_: you have to add forcepae
[17:25] <frankiee_> i'll figure out how to do that in xubuntu thanks
[17:25] <flocculant> start the installer - then at the human/kbd stage hit any key - then F6 - then escape, then you can manually add forcepae  -- forcepae to the end of the string, enter and if it can use it - then it will
[17:25] <frankiee_> it's past work hours for me so I DON'T GIVE A FUUUUUUUUUUUCK
[17:25] <frankiee_> lol
[17:25] <xangua> I believe only Lubuntu ships with the no pae kernel
[17:25] <frankiee_> hey thanks flocculant
[17:25] <flocculant> xangua: possibly
[17:26] <frankiee_> uh oh :|
[17:26] <flocculant> in which case - install the latest lubuntu and add xubuntu-desktop
[17:26] <flocculant> anyway - worth trying
[17:26] <frankiee_> it has lubuntu 12 currently
[17:26] <frankiee_> but it was useless, wouldn't play movies or anything
[17:27] <frankiee_> xubuntu-desktop you got it
[17:27] <flocculant> upgrade it to 16.04 - then install xubuntu-desktop
[17:27] <frankiee_> flocculant: do-release-upgrade yeah?
[17:27] <flocculant> though clean install will be a whole lot quicker
[17:27] <flocculant> I assume there's not much in the way of data on it
[17:27] <frankiee_> it is a clean install
[17:27] <frankiee_> of 12
[17:28] <flocculant> don't upgrade then - re-install a new version :)
[17:28] <frankiee_> but 16 won't run due to my cpu
[17:28] <Spass> frankiee_: Somebody should count how many times this link was given to you - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
[17:28] <Spass> Did you try this solution?
[17:29] <frankiee_> Spass: yes
[17:29] <Spass> Didn't work?
[17:29] <flocculant> then that's the same as what I said
[17:30] <flocculant> which is why it's really useful to answer people's questions - MoBeats specifically asked you that 40 minutes ago ...
[17:30]  * flocculant wanders off
[17:31] <frankiee_> I'm not seeing that screen with xubuntu. With lubuntu, it didn't work with v16 but with v12.
[17:31] <frankiee_> Alright walk away man with your attitude
[17:32] <Spass> "Boot the computer with an 32-bit Lubuntu DVD in the DVD drive. When the image of a keyboard and a little man in a circle appears, hit the tab key."
[17:33] <Spass> AFAIR when you boot Xubuntu DVD/USB at the beginning you have this "keyboard and a little man"
[17:38] <Spass> frankiee_: So, do you see that on your screen when you're booting your Xubuntu 16.04 32-bit installation media?
[17:39] <Spass> It should be visible at the beginning, for a 2-3 seconds.
[17:44] <Spass> http://i.stack.imgur.com/GtEi5.png
[18:16] <frankiee_> Spass: Yes indeed
[18:17] <frankiee_> I never knew this little guy was this important
[18:19] <Spass> He may be little, but sometimes he is important.
[18:21] <Spass> tab -> F6 -> Esc -> add forcepae -- forcepae
[18:22] <Spass> Generally, try to follow the steps in the guide. It really could help to solve your problem.
[18:24] <frankiee_> Thanks Spass
[18:24] <frankiee_> Had the silly notion that guide didn't apply to Xubuntu as well
[18:25] <frankiee_> Too many balls in the air and I can't juggle for shit LOL
[18:25] <frankiee_> I'm better off rapping at the street corner begging for change
[18:40] <Spass> Well knome, flocculant and me were giving you the same exact ball/solution. You just didn't want to play with it.
[18:42] <Spass> But I hope you'll be successful with your install now.
[19:54] <TempAcc499> http://mibpaste.com/hy9lHo would this be an okay SSD to run Ubuntu on? It's a small 20GB drive. I most likely want to run Xubuntu.
[20:02] <SuperSeriousCat> Sure


[00:38] <infinity> bdmurray: That would be because I haven't given ubuntu-sru queue admin perms on yakkety-updates yet, and you're not an AA.  Accepted your copy. :P
[00:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-release-upgrader [sync] (yakkety-updates) [1:16.10.7]
[00:49] <bdmurray> valorie: that'll fix it
[00:49] <bdmurray> infinity: hmm, I think sru-release didn't complain
[01:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted initramfs-tools [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.122ubuntu8.5]
[01:30] <valorie> thanks, bdmurray
[01:32] <cjwatson> xnox: it's a toy on my laptop, and mostly just a passive-aggressive thing that there's no way I'm committing anywhere
[01:35] <valorie> hmmm, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/yakkety/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/ReleaseAnnouncement.html still links to the Xenial wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[01:35] <cjwatson> valorie: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/yakkety-updates/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/ReleaseAnnouncement.html
[01:35] <valorie> \o/
[01:35] <valorie> I wanted a good link to send to my lists
[01:35] <valorie> thanks cjwatson
[01:55] <bdmurray> valorie: I'll be changing where the meeta-release file points now so it goes to yakkety-updates
[01:56] <valorie> cool
[02:09] <wxl> bdmurray: i don't think the vegetarians will like that
[02:20] <infinity> bdmurray: sru-release wouldn't complain, the copy worked.  It just got stuck in unapproved. :P
[05:29] <pitti> roaksoax: someone recently copied it already, so maas is all good
[06:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: fcitx (xenial-proposed/main) [1:<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu1 => 1:<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (input-methods, kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[09:01] <bittin> Updated to Yakkety at work now aswell :)
[09:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: multipath-tools (trusty-proposed/main) [0.4.9-3ubuntu7.14 => 0.4.9-3ubuntu7.15] (core)
[11:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mate-optimus (yakkety-proposed/universe) [16.10.0-1 => 16.10.1-1] (ubuntu-mate) (sync)
[12:50] <infinity> pitti: Incoming xenial glibc SRU.
[12:50] <infinity> pitti: If you want to pre-review, the source is in https://launchpad.net/~adconrad/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+packages
[12:50] <infinity> pitti: (Sadly, LP seems to have failed to provide a useful diff, so you get to diff locally)
[12:53] <infinity> apw: ^-- Or you.
[12:57]  * apw looks up, huh what, ok
[12:59] <pitti> infinity: my minions will be pleased!
[12:59]  * pitti kills the xenial linux test, apparenlty that's affected by the "kill sshd" bug as well
[12:59] <infinity> pitti: You have minions?
[13:00] <pitti> you don't?
[13:00] <infinity> pitti: Oh, the signal6 XFAIL?
[13:00] <pitti> infinity: no, bug 1632252
[13:00] <infinity> It'll certainly make autopkgtest results look less crap.
[13:01] <infinity> pitti: I meant the XFAIL would make your minions happy. :P
[13:01] <infinity> I have no idea how to fix your other bug, sorry. :P
[13:10] <apw> infinity, will pm you some questions on this upload
[13:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-mock-services [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.2-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[13:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python-mock-services [amd64] (xenial-proposed/universe) [0.2-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[13:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-mock-services [amd64] (xenial-proposed) [0.2-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[13:28] <apw> infinity, overall that looks "large" but as it is coming from a stable upstream i think that looks fine to me
[13:29] <infinity> apw: I assure you that the glibc stable branches are much more stable than a certain package you maintain. ;)
[13:29] <apw> infinity, indeed fully believed :)
[14:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: glibc (xenial-proposed/main) [2.23-0ubuntu3 => 2.23-0ubuntu4] (core) (sync)
[14:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted glibc [sync] (xenial-proposed) [2.23-0ubuntu4]
[15:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted neutron [source] (xenial-proposed) [2:8.3.0-0ubuntu1]
[15:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted neutron-lbaas [source] (xenial-proposed) [2:8.3.0-0ubuntu1]
[15:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sudo [source] (trusty-proposed) [1.8.9p5-1ubuntu1.3]
[16:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected multipath-tools [source] (trusty-proposed) [0.4.9-3ubuntu7.15]
[16:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected multipath-tools [source] (trusty-proposed) [0.4.9-3ubuntu7.15]
[16:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted strongswan [source] (trusty-proposed) [5.1.2-0ubuntu2.5]
[16:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: multipath-tools (trusty-proposed/main) [0.4.9-3ubuntu7.14 => 0.4.9-3ubuntu7.15] (core)
[16:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted preseed [source] (trusty-proposed) [1.62ubuntu1.1]
[16:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added directfb to lubuntu in yakkety
[16:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added libgsf to lubuntu in yakkety
[16:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added nemo to lubuntu in yakkety
[16:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added makedev to lubuntu in yakkety
[16:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added libdca to lubuntu in yakkety
[17:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted multipath-tools [source] (trusty-proposed) [0.4.9-3ubuntu7.15]
[17:51] <balloons> Can someone have a look at juju-core upload into xenial?
[17:52] <balloons> Happy post-release day to you all!
[17:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ifupdown (yakkety-proposed/main) [0.8.13ubuntu2 => 0.8.13ubuntu3] (core)
[18:01] <stokachu> bdmurray: you available to look at a SRU for juju-core?
[18:01] <bdmurray> I think its slangasek's day
[18:01] <stokachu> thanks
[18:03] <stokachu> what happens if a package is uploaded to yakkety-proposed while the archive is closed?
[18:04] <stokachu> does it go into zany automatically or do you have to reupload?
[18:05] <nacc> stokachu: well, z will open with a copy-forward of y, i think
[18:05] <nacc> i'm not sure how that plays with -proposed only packages, though
[18:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-pylxd (xenial-proposed/main) [2.0.5-0ubuntu1 => 2.0.5-0ubuntu1.1] (ubuntu-server)
[18:08] <stokachu> nacc: ok thanks for the info
[18:09] <nacc> stokachu: funnily enough, i just asked slangasek the same sort of question in #ubuntu-devel :)
[18:12] <apw> aiui we copy y-proposed forward to z-proposed normally when it opens
[18:13] <nacc> apw: that would make sense
[18:18] <stokachu> ok cool
[19:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: ibm-java80 (xenial-proposed/partner) [<IP_ADDRESS>-3]
[20:17] <slangasek> stokachu, balloons: I have some concerns about this xenial-proposed upload
[20:18] <balloons> slangasek, ok, what's up?
[20:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (vivid-proposed/main) [3.19.0-72.80] (core, kernel)
[20:25] <slangasek> balloons: - changelog not derived from previous SRU, which makes it impossible to read; this should be condensed to a single changelog entry with a single bug reference for SRU tracking bug. - re-vendorizing of golang-golang-x-crypto, which I let into yakkety because of timing but am not willing to accept into xenial without an explicit Security Team signoff (I would prefer to see
[20:25] <slangasek> golang-golang-x-crypto updated first).  - juju-2.0 changed from arch: any to arch: all, which is 100% wrong and broken. - unnecessary call to dpkg --print-architecture in config script, you can just use $DPKG_MAINTSCRIPT_ARCH from the environment instead. - would like to see the "your architecture not supported" message be more verbose, "not supported" doesn't quite express "this package no
[20:25] <slangasek> longer does anything on your system"
[20:27] <slangasek> fwiw your architecture matching can also be more succinctly written as case $ARCH in amd64|arm64|ppc64el|s390x) <do stuff> ;; esac
[20:28] <stokachu> slangasek: i think the arch: any to arch: all we were told would not match existing systems with the 32bit package installed
[20:28] <balloons> slangasek, I was hoping there was a better way to get arch, ack.
[20:28] <slangasek> stokachu: who told you this?
[20:29] <stokachu> cyphermox i believe
[20:29] <stokachu> it was for the upgrade from xenial to yakkety
[20:29] <slangasek> stokachu: changing it to arch: all means that the package will be built precisely once, on the amd64 builders
[20:29] <balloons> right -- wow
[20:29] <slangasek> so then you would be installing amd64 binaries on all architectures, and that's not what you want
[20:29] <balloons> why is it all
[20:30] <slangasek> I'm guessing cyphermox was describing something else when he said that
[20:30] <balloons> perhaps the juju metapackage, which does makes sense as all
[20:31] <balloons> anyways, slangasek I will update the package to GA then after fixing your concerns
[20:31] <slangasek> ok
[20:31] <balloons> it makes the diff even bigger, but I suppose makes more sense in this case.
[20:31] <balloons> I was hoping to avoid the big diff
[20:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected juju-core [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.0~rc3-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[20:32] <slangasek> the diff is already big, and I'm not going to be line-by-line'ing the upstream diff anyway
[20:32] <balloons> slangasek, yea, we're just adding more debian changes as we go.. GA will have more
[20:34] <stokachu> balloons: it's probably worth then pulling the latest source down and updating your changelog with whats already there
[20:34] <stokachu> that'll keep the changelog diff down to just a few lines
[21:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (vivid-proposed) [3.19.0-72.80]
[22:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (yakkety-proposed/main) [4.8.0-25.27] (core, kernel)


[00:22] <mybalzitch> did you get that thing I sent?
[00:32] <tomreyn> kubuntu_22.04_full_premium_nocd_patched_nulled_keygen_serialz2000.iso transferred fine, thanks.
 Hii
 Any help? (re @Omar: can anyone show me how to get kubuntu  default repos?)
[04:55] <alkisg> Omar, if you're talking about 22.04, you can run: sudo wget https://termbin.com/xkqi -O /etc/apt/sources.list
 22.04.1 is the same? (re @IrcsomeBot: <alkisg> Omar, if you're talking about 22.04, you can run: sudo wget https://termbin.com/xkqi -O /etc/apt/sources.list)
[05:04] <alkisg> Omar, yes
 Ok ill do if
 And i want to delet the old repos too
 is this command gonna replace my repos or just add those repos? (re @IrcsomeBot: <alkisg> Omar, if you're talking about 22.04, you can run: sudo wget https://termbin.com/xkqi -O /etc/apt/sources.list)
[05:08] <alkisg> Omar, you may delete the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ to delete the extra repositories and PPAs
 How (re @IrcsomeBot: <alkisg> Omar, you may delete the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ to delete the extra repositories and PPAs)
[05:11] <alkisg> sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* /var/backups/
 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ is not a directory
[05:12] <enigma9o7[m]> It moust certainly should be
 https://termbin.com/q1n46
 apt file
 sorry
 it is there and empty
 thank you
 one more thing
 i removed firefox and installed opera and when i open a link my system still trying to open it by firefox
 guys how does one check the gpu temperature
 screenfetch shows it i thinh
 screenfetch shows it i think
[11:19] <mparillo> https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-20-04-5-lts-update-available/
 What could be the possible cons and risks of adding plasma 5.25 back ports for KU22.04?
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[16:35] <iomari891> greetings, all my desktop effects stopped working today. I re-enabled them in settings but still no effects. I'm using kubuntu 22.04.
[17:45] <mmikowski> iomari891: System Settings > Display and Monitor > Compositor. Reset the effects there.  That will almost certainly fix it (you will likely have a warning that the compositor has crashed in the past). Try resetting to defaults is possible and then tweak  from there to prevent future compositing crash.
[17:47] <mmikowski> iomari891: The other possibility is your GPU got switched to one less capable (e.g. Nvidia to Intel U630 or similar).  I appologize if these are obvious to you :P
 Hi I'm unable to add 'starship init fish | source'  to    ~/.config/fish/config.fish directory. Any reason why this won't add?
 It says this for some reason : https://irc-attachments.kde.org/3e1f8aa1/Screenshot_20220903_002930.png
[19:52] <josephh> hello


[02:25] <realtime-neil> According to my experiments, `mark-suite-dirty` does indeed force a given PPA to generate `main/debug` indices (if the "publish debug symbols" option has been enabled). So that's a neat trick.