[14:22] <javajeff> does anyone know how to move a panel (8.10) from top to bottom?
[14:29] <LongbowSir> K
[14:31] <enzo_> !nvidia
[14:33] <ubuntu-dron> good afternoon
[14:35] <enzo_> Is there a way to make the computer not use the nVidia driver that it cannot use?
[14:35] <ubuntu-dron> Whe Openoffice.org is launched, the panel begins to flkicker, so does the whole desktop. Any workaround for this?
[14:35] <snikker> hi, i've updatd to 8.10 and now i can read the name of files that contain iso8859-15 chars, can you help me please?
[14:35] <snikker> *i can't read
[14:36] <burn_> how to set up new drivers, there is no driver menager or somenthing in kde settings, using kubuntu 8.10 and kde 4.1
[14:36] <victim[v]> ubuntu-dron: are you using an Nvidia card? See http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157017
[14:37] <nycz> when i try to use /dev/dsp it gives me a resource busy-error, though if i check with fuser it seems no processes has /dev/dsp open... why is that?
[14:38] <victim[v]> ubuntu-dron: The work around is to remove the Nvidia proprietary driver
[14:39] <victim[v]> burn_: see the first reply reply here http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3098672.0 it may help you
[14:39] <javajeff> what is plasma dashboard?
[14:39] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! Q: Running 8.10 in Toshiba Satellite A200, it used to have 8.04.1 running flawlessly. Now with this fresh install along my old XP, I have come to big trouble: From time to time, the caps lock key starts blinking (is it kernel panic?) and nothing works but a physical reboot. Could it be due to overheating (I coulpdnt get lm-server to show me anything but the underneat gets pretty hot). Thanks for any help
[14:40] <enzo_> Error: Cannot start kmserver. Would this stop me from being able to get into my desktop?
[14:40] <victim[v]> burn_: there is a Hardware Drivers in K / Application / System
[14:41] <rehman> hi
[14:41] <burn_> victim[v] yup, and i clicked activate and instaled ati catalist drivers and ati radeon drivers but not working, no opengl supprod and 3D, ond kubutnu 8.04 worked fin
[14:41] <rehman> any one kan help me upgrading RH9 kernel.
[14:43] <snikker> no one?
[14:45]  * Mekzholan has switched to 8.10 - which looks mostly great (although the uprgade itself was very painfull)
[14:45] <victim[v]> burn_: the only ATI I have used is an 9550 on Gutsy, the drivers install fine with Envy. Is there an ati-config utility? maybe running it with "kdesu ati-config"
[14:46] <enzo_> victim[v]: I was following the suggested procedure for installing the nVidia driver, but I have this error when choosing the driver:  "Error: EnvyNG has detected that the headers for your kernel are missing and cannot be installed"
[14:46] <Mekzholan> When I change the active screen, the windows are black and are getting filled. This looks really bad - is there a way to avoid this behaviour?
[14:47] <victim[v]> enzo_: that sounds painful ;)
[14:47] <enzo_> victim[v]: What headers need to be installed?
[14:47] <victim[v]> enzo_: idk
[14:47] <enzo_> victim[v]: Is there a way to find out?
[14:47] <Mekzholan> And sometimes a new window startes with garbage content and then switches to white to get faded in with the real content (esp. the K_menu)
[14:48] <Mekzholan> is there a way around that as well?
[14:48] <victim[v]> enzo_: find out what kernel you have and then look in Adept for headers with the same number
[14:48]  * Mekzholan is using an ATI card with the "ati" driver, if that matters...
[14:48] <enzo_> victim[v]: I don't have a GUI. I'm stuck with CLI for now.
[14:49] <victim[v]> enzo_: you could do some 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-headers' magic, but I don't know
[14:49] <snikker> * snikker is using an nVidia card with the "nvidia" driver, if that matters...
[14:50] <burn_> victim[v] i downloaded drivers form ati website, but there is no suppeort for 8.10 interpid ibex, should i w8t some time and download new ones?
[14:50] <javajeff> I lost my virtual desktop manager on the panel.  Does anyone know the widget name?
[14:50] <victim[v]> enzo_: uname -r tells you your kernel
[14:50] <enzo_> victim[v]: 2.6.24-21-generic
[14:51] <burn_> 2.6.27-7 generic :D
[14:51] <enzo_> I take it that it wasn't updated
[14:51] <victim[v]> enzo_: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.24-21  might work??
[14:52] <victim[v]> enzo_: even better   sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[14:52] <enzo_> victim[v]: It has no install candidate
[14:53] <enzo_> That doesn't work. Oddly enough, it doesn't sync with that. It wants to find the package   linux-headers-'uname -r'
[14:53] <vasilisa> anyone know why my keyboard shortcuts dont do anything in kde4?
[14:53] <nycz> my sound isn't working at all in my kubuntu 8.10... i've tried a lot of things but no luck so far... any ideas?
[14:54] <L337stema> hi all
[14:54] <burn_> nycz alsaconfig in konsole?
[14:54] <enzo_> How do I update the installed kernel?
[14:55] <nycz> burn_: yup, everything is at maximum
[14:56] <victim[v]> enzo_: you've reached the limit of my knowledge, sorry.
[14:56] <enzo_> victim[v]: Ok. Thanks for the help.
[14:56] <enzo_> It just seems that I have the kernel installed, but it is not being used.
[14:57] <javajeff> I lost the switch desktop tool.  how do I get it back?
[14:57] <nycz> the sound worked yesterday for me, but after a reboot this morning, it's all quiet :/
[14:57] <vasilisa> anyone know why my resolution keeps changing back every time i restart Xserver?
[14:57] <enzo_> victim[v]: I just did "sudo startx" and I am now into my GUI. Would you know how to do it from here?
[14:58] <victim[v]> burn_: I read somewhere that the current ATI drivers are currently not supported in 8.10, ATI will be releasing an updated version soon.
[14:58] <victim[v]> enzo_: look in Adept for the headers with a similar number to your kernel
[14:59] <burn_> thnx victim[v] for help
[14:59] <condon> how do I figure out my password for su?
[14:59] <javajeff>  How do I get the switch desktop tool back?
[14:59] <vasilisa> condon: ....
[15:00] <burn_> condon pasword for su od sudo or gksu is the root password
[15:00] <burn_> and u typed in when u install kubunto or ubuntu
[15:00] <condon> ...then how do I figure out the root password.
[15:00] <condon> That''s not working
[15:00] <condon> just says su: Authentication failure
[15:00] <javajeff> read about sudo...it will explain everything
[15:01] <burn_> are u using the right password?
[15:01] <condon> bash: cd: plasma-weatherforecast-0.2: Permission denied
[15:01] <condon> I'm getting this message each time I try to get to a directory I just created
[15:01] <BentJ> After upgrading to Kubuntu (intrepid) my firefox freeze when running a page with java-applets - I have tried to create a new user - but the problem persist... Anyone else who have that problem-or know how to fix it?
[15:01] <condon> sudo cd plasma..... doesn't work
[15:02] <burn_> hmmm
[15:02] <condon> only password I utilize on this box
[15:03] <Dragnslcr> burn_- you don't use the root password for sudo, you use the user's password
[15:03] <condon> last time I ran ubuntu and ran into this problem someone gave me some script that set the root password...but I can't find the disk I had all my notes from that distro burned on
[15:03] <Dragnslcr> condon- who owns the directory you're trying to get to?
[15:05] <condon> I've got one user on the system - I'm in home/user now, untared into the plasma-weatherforecast-0.2 (had to sudo tar... to get it to work)
[15:06] <Dragnslcr> If you used sudo to untar the file, the directory is probably owned by root
[15:07] <Dragnslcr> ls -al will tell you for sure
[15:07] <waylandbill_> Hello. I have a cpio file that I want to unpack but the contents have absolute paths from / and I don't want to overwrite my system files. Can cpio be told to extract somewhere besides the absolute paths?
[15:07] <jonathan__> hello!
[15:07] <jonathan__> I've a question!
[15:07] <jonathan__> i installed the fglrx driver via the restricted drivers manager.
[15:07] <jonathan__> so i'M using compiz with aiglx
[15:08] <jonathan__> now i want to try glx instead of aiglx.
[15:08] <jonathan__> how can i change that?
[15:08] <torp> hi all
[15:09] <condon> Dragnslcr...if it's owned by root...how do I get into the file if I can't find my root password?
[15:09] <enzo_> I am not seeing the linux-headers for my kernel
[15:09] <enzo_> 2.6.24-21-generic
[15:09] <Dragnslcr> condon- by using sudo
[15:10] <Dragnslcr> condon- you can use sudo chown to make your normal user the owner
[15:12] <condon> so "sudo chown plasma-weatherforecast-0.2"?
[15:12] <condon> is that the proper syntax?
[15:13] <enzo_> condon: sudo chown (username) (filename)
[15:14] <Dragnslcr> Probably need to use chown -R to change all the files in the directory as well
[15:16] <enzo_> How do I make my desktop use the latest kernel? They are installed, but not being used.
[15:20] <dustrial> enzo_:  i guess this is job of your bootmanager (grub?)
[15:20] <enzo_> dustrial: I tried reinstalling GRUB. It didn't make a difference
[15:21] <dustrial> m well you can set the kernel option yourself?
[15:21] <dustrial> press "e" in grub to edit lines
[15:21] <magarelli> salve, come si visualizzano le periferiche esterne (usb) in kubuntu intrepid?
[15:22] <dustrial> you change 'root' to the correct part of the hardisc (partition) with TAB you have complition to search for stuff
[15:22] <dustrial> same should then work with kernel option
[15:23] <torp74> list -min 25 sex
[15:25] <enzo_> dustrial: Let me reboot now and see what happens
[15:29] <ilya> !пизда
[15:30] <javier> Hola a todos
[15:30] <javier> m recibis bien?
[15:30] <koperton> hola
[15:30] <zelda_> Hi, the livecd on startx doesn't work, any here hade the same problem?
[15:30] <koperton> !english
[15:31] <pietje_phuck> zelda_: it works for me, but I get a blank/black screen for a second every few seconds
[15:32] <zelda_> pink and blacks rows :)
[15:36] <zelda_> perhaps because the composite by default on
[15:36] <enzo_> How do I use Vesa drivers instead of nVidia for the time being.
[15:37] <proteusguy> I've got my 8.10 CDROM. How do I use it to upgrade my existing 8.05 install? Doesn't seem to offer than option when I boot from it.
[15:38] <pietje_phuck> zelda_: I am downloading ubuntu now, see if it is just kubuntu
[15:38] <pietje_phuck> proteusguy: There is a howto on the website
[15:38] <JontheEchidna> proteusguy: do you have the alternate cd?
[15:39] <mrunagi> does upgrading automatically install kde 4?
[15:39] <proteusguy> No I have a CD burned from the main Kubuntu iso.
[15:39] <trappist> does anybody have kontact working with imap in intrepid?  I can read but not write, and it worked in gutsy and hardy.
[15:39] <JontheEchidna> proteusguy: you can only do a cd upgrade from the alternate cd
[15:39] <Tm_T> mrunagi: to Ibex? yes
[15:40] <Tm_T> trappist: all works here, but I don't use packaged version
[15:40] <trappist> Tm_T: that's interesting information.  I was just considering rebuilding some packages without the patches, and see what happens
[15:41] <proteusguy> oh well - might as well upgrade over the internet then... main cd should definitely come with an upgrade option... alas.
[15:41] <Tm_T> trappist: well I'm developer with svn trunk...
[15:41] <trappist> Tm_T: I wonder if you could help me debug this, then
[15:41] <zelda_> mm1, I have restart X server on livecd now work
[15:41] <trappist> I'm pretty clumsy with gdb
[15:41] <Tm_T> trappist: prolly not
[15:41] <trappist> haven't gotten anything out of it
[15:41] <trappist> strace too
[15:42] <trappist> nothing interesting in the (verbose) ldap logs
[15:42] <trappist> Tm_T: you're running kde's svn trunk, or kubuntu's?
[15:42] <mrunagi> omg this is annoying..........'error committing changes possibly there was a problem downloading packages or committing changes would break packages' what does that mean??
[15:43] <Tm_T> trappist: there's only one svn trunk, kde
[15:43] <trappist> gotcha
[15:44] <hazzy> trappist: Kontact works for me now...just started
[15:44] <mrunagi> any ideas?
[15:44] <trappist> hazzy: wth, out of nowhere?
[15:44] <hazzy> Yes
[15:45] <trappist> Tm_T: can you confirm that this should not segfault?  kioslave /usr/lib/kde4/kio_ldap.so ldap /tmp/1 /tmp/2
[15:45] <trappist> hazzy: did you, like, reboot or anything?
[15:45] <Tm_T> trappist: no idea, I don't use ldap
[15:45] <hazzy> I did reboot, but that's all
[15:45] <trappist> Tm_T: thought that was what I asked at the beginning... guess I'll quit buggin ya
[15:45] <trappist> hazzy: well ima try that then
[15:45] <trappist> it'll make my day if it starts working
[15:46] <hazzy> Ok
[15:46]  * trappist &
[15:46] <mrunagi> anyone have trouble installing ibex with a committ error?
[15:46] <Tm_T> trappist: imap != ldap
[15:46] <thethirdmoose> How do I upgrade my KDE in intrepid to KDE4? kded --version gives 3.5.10
[15:47] <akash> I am having problem with Qt in Kubuntu 7.10
[15:47] <akash> PLease help
[15:48] <victim[v]> thethirdmoose: how did you install 8.10?
[15:49] <akash> I am getting foll error :configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (library qt-mt) not found.
[15:49] <mrunagi> " there was an error committing changes possibly there was a problem downloading or committing would break packages" when upgrading?
[15:50] <Korlis> Hello all.
[15:51] <enzo_> Why is it that I can't do "startx" but sudo can?
[15:51] <enzo_> If I do it, it doesn't load the GUI
[15:51] <enzo_> When I do it with sudo, it goes right on through
[15:51] <Tm_T> enzo_: prolly because you have used sudo once
[15:52] <akash> Shall anyone tries to help me  :'(
[15:52] <Korlis> or the xserver needs root privileges
[15:52] <Tm_T> !patience | akash
[15:52] <Korlis> what do you need help with akash
[15:52] <Tm_T> Korlis: not that simple
[15:55] <enzo_> Tm_T: What do you mean by "have used sudo once"?
[15:56] <Tm_T> enzo_: IF you run graphical applications with sudo, you have a chance that you end up having broken rights in your files -> might have issues with graphical stuff
[15:56] <enzo_> Tm_T: But this has been since the upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10
[15:56] <Tm_T> hmmm
[15:57] <Tm_T> enzo_: then try with new user, totally new one
[15:57] <Tm_T> enzo_: also check all error messages
[15:59] <enzo_> Tm_T: There aren't any error messages. I get to a CLI (CTRL+ALT+F1) and I "startx" as my regular user. It gets up to the 3 of 5 loading icons. I went back to the CLI, and it holds on the loading of xorg.conf. No errors, just says that it's going by defaults.
[16:00] <Tycho> Hi. Does anyone know where multimedia key events (volume keys etc) are defined? My keys work, but some of them aren't doing what they should be doing
[16:01] <Tm_T> enzo_: see session errors too
[16:02] <enzo_> Tm_T: AFAIK, there aren't any sessions since I am not in a session. How do I check?
[16:03] <condon> where do I go to disable nautilus painting the desktop?
[16:03] <Tm_T> enzo_: ~/.xsession-errors ?
[16:03] <hamiii_> Just upgraded to 8.10. get dependency problem "atd, action start failed." So I tried /etc/init.d/atd start. Acts like it works but "atd status" says not running. Looking at /var/log/syslog I see permission denied for /var/spol/cron/atjobs which is usr bin group bin. Suggestions?
[16:03] <beta-guy> how do I change the time on Ubuntu?
[16:05] <hazzy> Ubuntu, or Kubuntu?
[16:05] <beta-guy> Kubuntu
[16:05] <OxDeadC0de1> Both
[16:06] <hazzy> Go to terminal type "systemsettings"
[16:06] <hazzy> And go to the bottom where is says "Date & Time"
[16:07] <draik> Tm_T: http://paste.ubuntu.com/66295/
[16:07] <Tm_T> draik: for me? oo how sweet
[16:07] <beta-guy> hazzy: thanks I'm trying to learn Linux as well as I know Windows :)
[16:07] <Korlis> ok, i got a question, I already use KDE4.1.2 on Hardy Heron, is there any reason for me to upgrade to Intrepid Ibex?
[16:08] <draik> Tm_T: :)
[16:08] <Tm_T> draik: yup, permission issue
[16:08] <hazzy> beta-guy: No problem, I'm still trying to learn Linux as well
[16:08] <OxDeadC0de1> Korlis: Yes, II just rules? :P
[16:08] <draik> Tm_T: How can I fix this?
[16:08] <beta-guy> Korlis: yes newer bigger better kernel!
[16:08] <Tm_T> !sudo | draik
[16:08] <Tm_T> hmm
[16:08] <Korlis> What kernel version does ibex use?
[16:09] <OxDeadC0de1> how can I set the default digital clock plasmoid in II to regular time instead of international/military time?
[16:09] <beta-guy> 2.6.27-7-generic
[16:09] <OxDeadC0de1> 2.6.27-7 atm
[16:09] <Korlis> is it stable?
[16:09] <Tm_T> draik: sudo chown draik:draik -R /home/draik/.kde*
[16:09] <OxDeadC0de1> yea
[16:10] <OxDeadC0de1>  09:10:12 up 2 days,  5:31,  2 users,  load average: 0.90, 0.70, 0.48
[16:10] <Korlis> will upgrading automatically replace my amarok?  I still use rhythmbox because it has way better ssh support
[16:11] <OxDeadC0de1> even though rhythmbox has that 100% cpu on pause bug
[16:11] <draik> Tm_T: Thanks. I will reboot now and hope it all works out.
[16:11] <beta-guy> 09:10:43 up 1 day, 21:31,  1 user,  load average: 2.14, 2.55, 2.74
[16:11] <Korlis> well, i normally use mpd
[16:11] <Korlis> but when i want a quick tune amarok is just easier to use
[16:12] <OxDeadC0de1> the easiest really is the hover your mouse over icon that gnome has :P, but eh, this ain't gnome
[16:12] <ardchoille> Korlis: you'll probably see more changes by 9.04 as more apps get ported to kde4
[16:12] <Korlis> my main thing with amarok for kde4 was it wouldn't play my cd's
[16:12] <OxDeadC0de1> i was hardcore gnome until intrepid ibex, before that kde was just crap in my personal opinion (obviously since I'm saying it), but now I won't switch back to gnome
[16:13] <Korlis> i love kde4 as a DE
[16:13] <beta-guy> when 9.04 gets released how do I upgrade? can I just run Adept?
[16:13] <OxDeadC0de1> dunno, I've been upgrading from 7.04 via update-manager -d
[16:13] <hazzy> sudo apt-get upgrade, I think
[16:13] <beta-guy> ok
[16:14] <beta-guy> it'll be easier than downloading a new ISO and installing that way :p
[16:14] <Korlis> I'm going to upgrade right now then
[16:14] <OxDeadC0de1> but even tho I'm already running II I ordered the 8.10 kubuntu cd ;)
[16:14] <OxDeadC0de1> <3 kubuntu
[16:14] <Tm_T> OxDeadC0de1: II ?
[16:14] <enzo_> Tm_T: cross your fingers...
[16:14] <OxDeadC0de1> intrepid ibex
[16:14] <Tm_T> enzo_: I wont
[16:14] <Korlis> I think im gonna order a free cd just to give to friends
[16:15] <Tm_T> OxDeadC0de1: bah, how obscure
[16:15] <beta-guy> I <3 II
[16:15] <OxDeadC0de1> tm_t eh :P,I'm an obscure guy?
[16:15] <Korlis> i'll be back when it restarts me
[16:15] <OxDeadC0de1> good luck korlis
[16:16] <enzo_> Tm_T: You cursed it. :(
[16:16] <OxDeadC0de1> doh!
[16:16] <Korlis> ty ox
[16:16] <Tm_T> enzo_: yes I did (;)
[16:16] <Korlis> its only on step 2 right now though
[16:16] <OxDeadC0de1> so, does anyone here use splashy instead of usplash in 8.10?
[16:17] <Korlis> i downloaded splashy but i didnt like it
[16:17] <OxDeadC0de1> I love the fingerprint theme
[16:17] <OxDeadC0de1> only problem is after upgrading to 8.10 the progress bar stopped moving :/
[16:17] <Korlis> telling me it's gonna take about an hour to get all the new packages
[16:17] <luite> I installed intrepid a few days ago, but now I cannot login anymore. after the kdm login, the loading window pops up, but after a while the screen starts blinking, and the desktop never really loads
[16:17] <luite> what should I do?
[16:18] <OxDeadC0de1> luite: I'd go into a console after kdm starts, (control alt f1), log in
[16:18] <OxDeadC0de1> them rename or delete my old .kde folders
[16:18] <hazzy> Yea
[16:18] <hazzy> I was about to suggest that
[16:18] <luite> OxDeadC0de1: I already did that, and started an ssh connection to my irc ;)
[16:18] <luite> ok, will try that
[16:18] <enzo_> I think I will just "sudo chmod -777" my entire system. That should stop the issue.
[16:18] <Korlis> lol
[16:19] <hazzy> No
[16:19] <hazzy> Don't
[16:19] <beta-guy> I just found out what usplash is... why does it exist? I remember playing with the older distros and thinking the text on bootup was cool
[16:19] <rien> hi everyone, i've got a problem with kubuntu 8.10 and dvb-t
[16:19] <hazzy> chmod 777 is insecure
[16:19] <beta-guy> usplash/splashy are just trying to turn Linux into Windows
[16:19] <OxDeadC0de1> beta-guy apparently splasy can give you cool bootup pictures and display the text at the same time
[16:20] <Korlis> like on knoppix
[16:20] <OxDeadC0de1> kind of like the old bootsplash image of just the penguin at the top
[16:20] <rien> im trying to use my pinnacle dvb-t stick solo with kubuntu, but it doesnt work - can anyone help me?
[16:20] <beta-guy> OxDeadX0de1: cool
[16:20] <hazzy> rien: Do you get any errors? What are they? What happens otherwise?
[16:20] <hamiii_> Just upgraded to 8.10. get dependency problem "atd, action start failed." So I tried /etc/init.d/atd start. Acts like it works but "atd status" says not running. Looking at /var/log/syslog I see permission denied for /var/spol/cron/atjobs which is usr bin group bin. Suggestions?
[16:20] <Tm_T> axel_foley: are we rooted now?
[16:21] <denis_> Bonjour !
[16:21] <axel_foley> :-D
[16:21] <axel_foley> virualbox
[16:21] <rien> well i installed the drivers according to the guide at http://quarkmitsauce.wordpress.com/2008/10/13/pinnacle-pctv-dvb-t-stick-72e-with-ubuntu-710/
[16:21] <rien> and the stick seems to be recognised alright, but no mediaplayer works with it
[16:21] <denis_> hi !
[16:22] <rien> all the programs say they cant find the hardware
[16:22] <denis_> somebody could help me please ?
[16:22] <brewmaster> hey all, let's say i have two folders, 'a' and 'b', and i want all files in those folders to show up in folder 'c'--is there a way to do this?
[16:22] <OxDeadC0de1> rien look at dmesg and /var/log/syslog see if there's anything about it there
[16:22] <OxDeadC0de1> denis_ don't ask to ask, just ask
[16:22] <denis_> okay
[16:22] <trappist> hazzy: reboot didn't help here :/
[16:22] <rien> alright, hold on
[16:22] <OxDeadC0de1> brewmaster: lots of ln -s ?
[16:22] <hazzy> trappist: Ah, this is interesting
[16:23] <trappist> in fact, rebooting *sucked* - my panel settings are lost
[16:23] <denis_> I don't know how to install my second HDD, and i'm a newbie with kubuntu, somebody can telle me how could I install it ?
[16:23] <brewmaster> OxDeadC0de1: nod, there's no way to sort of 'merge' two folders without manually entering symbolic links?
[16:23] <OxDeadC0de1> denis_ plug it in, partition it, format the partition, set it up in /fstab to mount it to wherever
[16:24] <Guest19464> ciao
[16:24] <trappist> hazzy: I'd find it more interesting if it worked :)
[16:24] <denis_> I don't want to format it, there is already files on it
[16:24] <OxDeadC0de1> brewmaster: you can probably make a bash script to do ls folder then create a symbolic link on every item ls returns
[16:24] <denis_> from windows
[16:24] <denis_> it is NTSF
[16:24] <OxDeadC0de1> denis_ oh then .. sudo apt-get ntfs-config ; ntfs-config
[16:24] <draik> Tm_T: It didn't work. Would you like me to send you the latest ~/.xsession-error ?
[16:25] <denis_> I'm gonna try this
[16:25] <OxDeadC0de1> denis_ that will set it up to automount them to wherever you specify on system boot
[16:25] <brewmaster> OxDeadC0de1: ah yes, shell scripting to the rescue
[16:25] <denis_> error message : /bin/sh: ntfs-config: not found
[16:26] <OxDeadC0de1> denis: sudo apt-get install ntfs-config sorry I always forget the "install" part
[16:26] <Korlis> woo, just ordered a kubuntu II cd
[16:26] <OxDeadC0de1> Korlis: Yay!
[16:26] <rien-ne-va-plus> OxDeadC0de1: alright seems like a mess in the syslog
[16:26] <Tm_T> draik: sorry I don't have time to help you more, I wish a good luck with it though
[16:26] <draik> Tm_T: Ok. Thanks.
[16:27] <Korlis> the rate taht the upgrade is downloading it might get here before it's done
[16:27] <denis_> I think it is working
[16:27] <hazzy> trappist: I've since started using Thunderbird for all this, so, I'm not sure what it could have been
[16:27] <OxDeadC0de1> rien: the kernel api could have changed since 7.10, you may want to check google on the issue :/
[16:27] <trappist> when I start up, I have to manually start knetworkmanager, then manually turn on my wireless connection to connect to the tubes.  how can I make this automatic in intrepid?  in the old days I'd put the device and my wepkey in /etc/network/interfaces - should I do that again?
[16:27] <trappist> hazzy: is thunderbird what was giving you trouble before?
[16:28] <rien-ne-va-plus> OxDeadC0de1: ok thanks
[16:28] <hazzy> trappist: No, I had just tested Kontact for you
[16:28] <denis_> Is it a long process ?
[16:28] <trappist> hazzy: can you describe exactly what happened?  I'm still not 100% sure we had the same problem
[16:28] <Korlis> im using kernel 2.6.24
[16:29] <OxDeadC0de1> denis_ is what a long process?
[16:29] <denis_> this process : sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[16:29] <draik> Is there a way to change the apps within the Favorites of the K Menu?
[16:29] <luite> OxDeadC0de1: okee, I can login now again, but lost all my settings of course. is the new kde known to be buggy, or are there some settings I shouldn't touch because of these problems?
[16:29] <Korlis> Huzzah! My time remaining is under an hour now.
[16:29] <Korlis> What do you mean draik
[16:30] <OxDeadC0de1> luite: I have no real stability issues with it and I tweak everything in my setup ^^
[16:30] <Korlis> you can change wahts in there, but you can't change the order theyre in
[16:30] <hazzy> I had tried to send a message on Kontact, but as it was sending it shot me an error saying something about my network not being configured
[16:30] <OxDeadC0de1> draik right click on an app you want to add to favorites, click add to favorites
[16:30] <trappist> hazzy: oh that's not at all what I'm experiencing - I'm trying to save contacts to my ldap server
[16:30] <kevin_> hello all, is it   possible to run kde 3.5.10 while using Intrepid,, I just upgraded and seem have lost kde 3.5.x
[16:30] <draik> Korlis: Right now, I have Konqueror for web browser; Dolphin for file manager, etc. I want to use Firefox and Konqueror, respectively.
[16:30] <slow-motion> hi
[16:31] <hazzy> trappist: Ohhh, sorry :\
[16:31] <trappist> hahaha
[16:31] <Korlis> You mean bookmarks?
[16:31] <OxDeadC0de1> draik or if you want to remove one, right click and click "remove from favorites", so remove konqueror and add firefox, etc
[16:31] <Korlis> oh wait, i understand
[16:31] <draik> Ok
[16:31] <Korlis> he wants to set up firefox as default web browser and konq as default file browser
[16:31] <luite> OxDeadC0de1: ah ok, I never had such problems with kde 3. guess I was just unlucky.
[16:32] <draik> Korlis: Right
[16:32] <ardchoille> brewmaster: you can have two links to folder c .. you can't have folder c link to two places
[16:32] <trappist> hazzy: but I thought of something to try next - this is a "clean install", but I kept my home dir from a gutsy install, so I'm gonna try with a new user with no settings, and see if maybe something in my ~/.kde is causing problems
[16:32] <OxDeadC0de1> luite: I never used kde until intrepid ibex.. well, not never, but I prefered gnome until kde4
[16:32] <denis_> Ox, I did the two commands you showed to me
[16:33] <hazzy> trappist: Yea, go for it
[16:33] <denis_> but the second one show an error
[16:33] <Korlis> if you right click on what you want to open you can select open with, then check the thing that says remember my settings for this whatever
[16:33] <luite> OxDeadC0de1: ah. the gnome desktop always looked a bit more 'polished'
[16:33] <denis_> ** (ntfs-config:6169): WARNING **: Erreur : Ce programme nécessite d'être exécuté en tant que root.
[16:33] <Korlis> i can check to see the exact wording if you want
[16:33] <luite> but I used kde anyway
[16:33] <OxDeadC0de1> denis_ sudo ntfs-config
[16:33] <draik> denis_: sudo your command
[16:34] <draik> How do I get my regular user to login? It keeps hanging when it comes to loading the video driver.
[16:34] <Korlis> ok draik, you right lick  select open with - other then check the box that says remember application s association for this type of file
[16:35] <rien-ne-va-plus> OxDeadC0de1: hm i cant seem to find any news on that topic
[16:35] <OxDeadC0de1> luite it wasn't about the polishedness of the desktop for me, it just seemed kde was extremely bloated compared to gnome in the past, and I always had little problems with it
[16:35] <draik> Korlis: Huh? How does that fix the login?
[16:35] <Korlis> that doesnt
[16:35] <Korlis> tahts to make default apps
[16:35] <brewmaster> ardchoille: that's sucks... what I'm trying to do is have /partitionA/videos /partitionB/videos both show up in mythtv under 'videos'
[16:35] <Korlis> didnt see your login issue
[16:36] <Korlis> whoa, my remaining time shot up to 2 hours
[16:36] <OxDeadC0de1> rien I don't know, sorry :/, try making a bug report on the website for whatever company or hacker that makes the driver you're trying to use
[16:36] <dr_willis> brewmaster,  i just made links from /videos/part1 --> /media/partitiona/videos
[16:36] <dr_willis> brewmaster,  i had mythtv playing videos from severl hard drives.. and even nfs and samba shares that way
[16:38] <denis_> it doesn't work. i tried sudo apt-get install ntfs-config then sudo apt-get install ntfs-config Do I forgot something ?
[16:38] <OxDeadC0de> denis_ you only need to install it once, then run it, sudo apt-get install ntfs-config ; sudo ntfs-config ..
[16:38] <brewmaster> dr_willis: so you had to have separate folders showing up in mythtv for each partition?
[16:39] <dr_willis> mythtv had 2 or 3 different ways to show the  videos listings.. I think i had sub folders correct..
[16:39] <denis_> should I have to reboot now ?
[16:39] <dr_willis> Videos/Drive1  and Videos/Drive2 and so forth..
[16:39] <OxDeadC0de> denis_ maybe not, check /media and see if it made the folders and mounted it already
[16:40] <dr_willis> I do belive you had to tell MythTV to rescan or do somthing for it to see the videos.. or set up a setting whre it showed all files.
[16:40] <dr_willis> Ive not used MythTV in ages
[16:40] <OxDeadC0de> everybody: My hangover is gone! Time to party without any more tequila! sorry about off-topic
[16:40] <denis_> Yeah !
[16:40] <denis_> It's okay
[16:40] <denis_> Thank you
[16:40] <denis_> realy
[16:40] <ardchoille> brewmaster: you can link both folder a and folder b to folder c but don't you need to tell mythtv to rescan after linking?
[16:40] <denis_> really*
[16:41] <denis_> have a great day ;)
[16:41] <OxDeadC0de> denis_ yw glad I could help
[16:42] <kevin_>   does any one  know  how to install kde 3.5.10 on intrepid?
[16:43] <dr_willis> Not doable at this time.. from what i hear.. no repos have it.. no ppa's repos either
[16:43] <dr_willis> You could always get the source I guess... *(ick!)*
[16:44] <kevin_> thanks
[16:44] <Darthfrog> Sounds like a sizable # of folks don't like KDE 4.1.2
[16:44] <Tm_T> Darthfrog: I like 4.2
[16:44] <OxDeadC0de> I love 4.1.2, 4.2 can only be better
[16:44] <Darthfrog> So do I.
[16:45] <hazzy> Eh, I can't see why...4.1.2 isn't bad at all
[16:45] <ardchoille> kevin_: If you have already installed Intrepid, there's always the option of using another window manager like fluxbox or enlightenment
[16:45] <dustrial> enzo_:  there?
[16:45] <Darthfrog> I'm not enchanted with the fuxored printing system in Kubuntu Intrepid but KDE itself is great.
[16:45] <dr_willis> I like jwm+rox-filer :)
[16:45] <Tm_T> Darthfrog: it works here
[16:45] <kevin_> I probably will like 4.2, I am just used to 3.5
[16:46] <ardchoille> kevin_: same here and I will wait and see how 9.04 turns out
[16:46] <grizzancs> 4.1.2 is terrible slow at me, even with hw accel on + direct rendering, so im trying gnome now :)
[16:46] <Darthfrog> kevin_: One of the best things I read about KDE 4: KDE is no longer playing catchup on the desktop, theyre now innovating.
[16:46] <Darthfrog> I can hardly wait to see where the devs take KDE 4. :-)
[16:48] <dr_willis> useing 'applets/desklets/widgets' for everything is innovation ? :) But theres a lot of innovation a normal user dosent see ....
[16:48] <OxDeadC0de> grizzancs: it's fast for me on my dual core comp with it running at 800mhz + nvidia geforce 6150 go
[16:48] <maxbaldwin> Am I the only one who hasn't changed their desktop? Because I like the one KDE4 comes with...
[16:49] <trappist> hazzy: when I set it up as a fresh user, it works :)
[16:49] <hazzy> trappist: Glad to hear it!
[16:49] <trappist> I hate to do it, but I think ima wipe out my ~/.kde
[16:49] <OxDeadC0de> maxbaldwin you should at least try the lancelot kde menu instead of the regular one
[16:50] <maxbaldwin> OxDeadC0de: Screenshot?
[16:50] <OxDeadC0de> what's the hotkey to take screenshots again? ^^
[16:50] <grizzancs> OxDeadC0de: if i turn out "desktop effects" (so probably compiz, or what it is on kde4) , it's a lot faster (1.6ghz dualcore 2 gb ram notebook), but gnome is perfectly smooth with 3d effects on on 1gb notebook, single core, and both have ati mobility radeon 128mb videocard
[16:50] <grizzancs> strange :)
[16:50] <dustrial> well i had crashes with KDE4 so i use kde3 here
[16:50] <kevin_> It is really slick looking, and I love the graphics, but at the moment I can't find anything
[16:50] <OxDeadC0de> I run compiz grizzancs :/
[16:51] <MunichMatt> hello all. I have a problem with apt-get. I tried to install mozpluger and kvpnc. They also install menu and m4. But since then i keep getting problems reported by apt-get, that there were errors in processing the installation. see here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/66310/
[16:52] <maxbaldwin> OxDeadC0de: I dunno... I like the regular the best.
[16:53] <ardchoille> I like tastymenu
[16:53] <maxbaldwin> KDE4 > wmii > * > Gnome
[16:53] <maxbaldwin> That's the order, there.
[16:53] <dustrial> right, but gnome is more appealing for beginners, ...
[16:54] <OxDeadC0de> there's your problem grizzancs, ati radeons suck?
[16:54] <nadley> hi everybody
[16:55] <Kovert> ? does katapult work with 8.10?
[16:55] <ardchoille> !info katapult
[16:55] <ardchoille> Kovert: I guess not
[16:55] <dr_willis> aparently not. :)
[16:56] <Kovert> thank you again dr_willis
[16:56] <grizzancs> OxDeadC0de: well, they ddid excellent work on windows 3d games, i don't think they are not capable of handling some 2d windows ;)
[16:56] <OxDeadC0de> grizzancs: I meant in their linux support but yeah :P
[16:57] <grizzancs> maybe, but ubuntu with gnome is fast on this one, havent tried kubuntu only on the other one
[16:58] <dustrial> OxDeadC0de:  reading Nvidea forums, i woundered if things changed and ATI is now friendlier ...
[16:59] <OxDeadC0de> dustial: After my experience with the ati radeon mobility 200m, I never wanted ati again
[16:59]  * Kovert running ati
[16:59] <dr_willis> My laptop has a x200m.. its actually working decently well under 8.10
[16:59] <dr_willis> For all the little power it has. :)
[16:59] <dr_willis> it does the job for the kids.
[16:59] <dustrial> yes had simular problems 9700 mobility (r400) and was upset too... but now its AMD and nvidea doesn't do anything, while ati started to develeop better soupport
[17:00] <OxDeadC0de> maybe it got way better but I had it when it was new and frankly.. it sucked them until my laptop died.. got nvidia after so I dunno how much better it got ^^
[17:00] <dr_willis> i used a ati 9700 for ages.. :)
[17:00] <nadley> There is french user of Kubuntu here ?
[17:01] <ardchoille> !fr
[17:01] <dustrial> yeah i killed my laptop with 9700 two days ago
[17:01] <OxDeadC0de> doesn't it just suck when a laptop dies? I cried last time it happened.. literally... :/
[17:01] <dustrial> 5 yrs of fine power, and at least 9700 worked after years of configuring
[17:01] <dr_willis> I got an old laptop thats glued together to a bord. :)
[17:02] <grizzancs> hehe
[17:02] <ardchoille> dr_willis: haha
[17:02]  * Kovert is thinking x200s?
[17:02] <dustrial> well 5 yrs is a good age, he had some good days in some wine-games =)
[17:02] <ajunta> hi all! tell me please is it real to use knetworkmanaget to connect to m$ vpn?
[17:03] <dr_willis> Some of the laptops in this house have month+uptimes fronm the wife and her cardgames on them
[17:03] <OxDeadC0de> anyone using my python cpu frequency scaler on kubuntu 8.10? ^^ (in get hot new stuff), just asking because I
[17:03] <OxDeadC0de> oops, I'm going to rewrite it in js here in a bit for better compat..
[17:06] <hamiii_> After upgrading to 8.10 I get the error Setting up at (<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3) ... * Starting deferred execution scheduler atdinvoke-rc.d: initscript atd, action "start" failed.
[17:08] <hamiii_> When I remove at and reinstall  I get the same error
[17:08] <wathek> hello all
[17:08] <OxDeadC0de> hamiii_: see if a bug report already exists if not submit one
[17:09] <wigren> Hi all. I'm trying out Kubuntu for the first time. With Ubuntu I use envy to install the nvidia drivers. I can't seem to finy envy with Adept. Is there a special tool for KDE?
[17:09] <wathek> any one can help me to get libxerces-c.so.27 ?
[17:10] <hamiii_> Can someone tell me the permission and owners of /var/spool/cron/atjobs
[17:10] <Korlis> wigren, it should automatically alert you if you need a proprietary driver
[17:11] <OxDeadC0de> hamiii_: ls -lh /target
[17:11] <romunov> hey, my kubuntu installation has blown itself to about 14 gigs... any ideas on where to start cleaning?
[17:11] <hamiii_> I know how, I want to know what someones are that system is working.
[17:11] <OxDeadC0de> romunov try the disk usage analyzer? it's in gnome I know..
[17:12] <enzo_> wigren: envy is envyng
[17:12] <OxDeadC0de> drwxrwx--T 2 daemon daemon
[17:12] <hazzy> romunov: sudo apt-get autoclean
[17:12] <hamiii_> Interesting mine are set to bin
[17:12] <OxDeadC0de> drwxrwx--T 2 daemon daemon  4.0K 2007-10-15 17:27 atjobs -- even
[17:13] <romunov> i tried autoclean, but it freed only 100 megs
[17:13] <romunov> also autoremove
[17:13] <wigren> Korlis: When I use the Hardware Drivers utility it was basicly just unresponsive. So far I reinstalled ubuntu because somebody needed to use it. I'm on the Kubuntu live CD now. The Hardware Drivers seems to work when I'm on the live cd, but not when I'ts installed. I could reinstall it and see what happens, unless you have a suggestion?
[17:14] <Korlis> I would say that if the drivers work on the live cd it should work when you install it
[17:14] <wigren> Korlis: I'll try it again. Thanks.
[17:16] <draik> Korlis: No, that didn't work
[17:18] <hamiii_> thanks OxDeadC0de. That did it. Somehow the permessions got changed in the upgrade. I changed them and all works fine.
[17:18] <Kovert> romunov: get rid of old kernels
[17:19] <Guest62554> hello
[17:19] <hamiii_> While I'm here, I'm using konversation right now and if I click a link quanta pops up rather than konqueror. Anyone know where the setting is to put think right?
[17:20] <Philip5> hi guys.... i'm missing the system network configuration module in the system settings in kubuntu 8.10... anyone know if it's missing or just I who have missed som package to install?
[17:20] <hamiii_> s/think/things
[17:21] <OxDeadC0de> hamiii_: glad to be of service
[17:21] <Philip5> system network configuration comes with other dists with kde 4.x
[17:22] <OxDeadC0de> hamiii_ no idea on that one, still havn't figured out completely how to set the default browser etc in kde, but perhaps konversation has it's own setting on which browser to use ?
[17:22] <t848945> Hello all
[17:22] <ardchoille> hamiii_: it's in file associations, particularly the .html file extension, but I don't know where that is in kde4
[17:22] <romunov> Kovert: got any reading material on how i do that? how do i check if the old kernels are indeed causing this bubble?
[17:23] <ardchoille> hamiii_: perhaps open konqueror, go to Settings > Configure Extensions
[17:23] <r0y4l> Is there no way to resize the height of a kde4 panel? :(
[17:23] <hamiii_> I tried the konqueror and konqueror is listed first for html
[17:24] <OxDeadC0de> hamiii_ can try k menu/system settings/advanced and click through everything and look around?
[17:24] <JontheEchidna> r0y4l: click the plasma icon at the right of the panel, drag the top of the bar that appears like a window
[17:24] <JontheEchidna> there will be a more obvious button to drag in KDE 4.2
[17:24] <ardchoille> hamiii_: in konversation, go to Settings > Configure, then to Behavior > General and set the web browser?
[17:24] <t848945> .
[17:25] <OxDeadC0de> i use pidgin and firefox comes up on link clicks ^^
[17:25] <r0y4l> JontheEchidna: AHH
[17:25] <r0y4l> JontheEchidna: THANSK
[17:25] <r0y4l> s/THANSK/THANKS
[17:25] <r0y4l> :)
[17:25] <JontheEchidna> :)
[17:25] <t848945> .
[17:25] <romunov> months ago I installed Enemy territory and would like now to purge it. unfortunately i can't just "apt-get remove et" :/ how do i do it?
[17:26] <OxDeadC0de> anyone know if kubuntu will be upgraded to 4.2 once it's released in jan or whenever it comes out?
[17:27] <ardchoille> OxDeadC0de: I would think that 9.04 would be upgraded upon release
[17:27] <OxDeadC0de> on 8.10 even
[17:27] <hamiii_> ardchoille Thanks. It would of bit me. I'd looked right past it 100 times at least.
[17:27] <ardchoille> 8.10 won't be
[17:27] <ardchoille> hamiii_: so did I :)
[17:28] <OxDeadC0de> so 8.10 will always have 4.1.2? ok then.. no problem for me I always dist upgrade anyway, but I want kde 4.2 as soon as it comes out
[17:28] <ardchoille> OxDeadC0de: yeah, once it is released the *buntu's usually only get bug fixes and security updates
[17:33] <JontheEchidna> If you have "recommended updates" enabled you should get 4.1.3 in a few days ;)
[17:34] <ardchoille> JontheEchidna: then that will be the first time I've ever seen something as complicated as a full DE upgraded to the next version
[17:34] <JontheEchidna> 4.1.3 is a bugfix update
[17:34] <romunov> i'll need some help uninstalling enemy territory from my kubuntu.. anyone?
[17:34] <ardchoille> JontheEchidna: Ah, ok
[17:35] <thethirdmoose_> How do I get OSS support for phonon?
[17:35] <ardchoille> JontheEchidna: In that case, I may try Intrepid again on my test box :)
[17:36] <ardchoille> You never know, we may see Kubuntu 8.10.1
[17:37] <Ubuntu-Newbie-Ex> Hello all - question, I've been trying for two days trying to get Sun Java 6 working with Firefox.. with no luck. I try to apt-get install sun-java6-plugin, but I get the message 'Package sun-java6-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package'
[17:37] <Ubuntu-Newbie-Ex> Any thoughts?
[17:37] <ardchoille> !java
[17:38] <Ubuntu-Newbie-Ex> ubottu: Thanks! Checking it out now
[17:39] <grizzancs> :))
[17:39] <psyco> hey guys, I got 8.10 now, but my internet wont work anymore
[17:39] <psyco> And I cant find where to configure the internet options now
[17:42] <romunov> what would happen if i deleted a directory (say "glest") under /etc/games/?
[17:42] <zamarax> hello, I followed the steps here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-kde-41-on-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html and now I can't seem to remove kde, nothing happens when I try an aptitude remove (package name) and it also completely messed up my gnome in that it's now using the kubuntu wireless manager amongst lots of other things, any ideas of how to reverse that install?
[17:42] <OxDeadC0de> you would no longer be able to play glest but it wouldn't be uninstalled properly
[17:42] <ardchoille> romunov: how did you install it?
[17:43] <romunov> i downloaded a file from a webpage
[17:43] <romunov> and dpkg, if i recall correctly
[17:43] <ardchoille> dpkg has an uninstall feature
[17:43] <OxDeadC0de> try dpkg -r .eb
[17:43] <OxDeadC0de> :s/.eb/.deb
[17:43] <romunov> OxDeadC0de: from /glest/ directory?
[17:43] <ardchoille> romunov: from anywhere
[17:44] <OxDeadC0de> on the glest debian file
[17:44] <OxDeadC0de> or anywhere I guess
[17:44] <romunov> hum, i don't have the deb file anymore
[17:44] <gigatropolis> I had tthe same problem as psyco. is it normal for no internet connection when starting kubuntu 8.10
[17:44] <ardchoille> romunov: doesn't matter, but you do need the filename
[17:44] <romunov> hum, i see that the /games/ directory has no subdirectories, only files... :/
[17:45] <ardchoille> romunov: you also should be able to: apt-get remove glest
[17:45] <romunov> wee, glest is removing
[17:45] <romunov> now for the ET
[17:47] <ardchoille> whoever wrote APT was a genius
[17:47] <OxDeadC0de> apt freakin rules
[17:48] <hazzy> Yes...I spent some time on Mandriva...couldn't use urpmi
[17:49] <trappist> I thought urpmi was pretty ok - even has some advantages over apt, but I prefer apt
[17:49] <maxbaldwin> rpm is better than apt
[17:50] <trappist> one thing I lost when I wiped out my ~/.kde is when I close kontact, it's *closed*, as in nothing in the taskbar for kmail, akregator etc.  how can I make it minimize to the system tray like it did before?
[17:50] <trappist> maxbaldwin: right.
[17:50] <trappist> rpm doesn't even compete with apt, it competes with dpkg.
[17:51] <maxbaldwin> lol, I dunno what I'm talking about.
[17:51] <trappist> I know
[17:51]  * maxbaldwin kicks maxbaldwin.
[17:51] <trappist> :)
[17:51] <luite> hmm, the problem is back :( I was messing with window managers (trying to use emerald), and had to kill xorg. and now I can't login again :(
[17:51] <maxbaldwin> :|
[17:52] <OxDeadC0de> luite lame, i use emerald all the time
[17:52] <rien-ne-va-plus> hi everyone, i still have problems with dvb-t under kubuntu 8.10 -  my usb stick is in "warm state" but i cannot use it with any software i tried, i always get "no hardware recognized" - can anyone help?
[17:52] <ardchoille> trappist: you need to go through the apps in kontact and set the tray icon for use again
[17:53] <luite> OxDeadC0de: it's the first time I try to use it. should I be able to start it using # emerald --replace, from a terminal, when kde+kwin is running?
[17:53] <OxDeadC0de> luite I always launch it from the fusion-icon
[17:53] <teddiebaer> Hi@all
[17:54] <psyco> In kubuntu 8.10 where do I fix internet settings?
[17:54] <luite> OxDeadC0de: ok, I'll try that
[17:54] <trappist> ardchoille: found it, thanks :)
[17:54] <ardchoille> trappist: iirc, kontact is just a shell for things like kmail, akregator, etc
[17:54] <ardchoille> yw
[17:54] <psyco> Knetworkmanager wont connect for some reason, it stays "disconnected"
[17:54] <eeanm> anyone know of a 'kdict' replacement for intrepid?
[17:54] <eeanm> a dict client of some sort
[17:54] <trappist> ardchoille: yeah that appears to be the case
[17:55] <hazzy> psyco: Go to terminal and type "systemsettings", and click "Network Settings"
[17:56] <luite> OxDeadC0de: hm, that doesn't seem to work either, my window decorations have gone again
[17:56] <OxDeadC0de> luite: did you already select a theme to use via emerald settings manager?
[17:59] <luite> OxDeadC0de: yes, I installed some theme I downloaded from the kde-look website
[17:59] <luite> but I'll try another one
[18:00] <Aizawa> When installing k/ubuntu, if you pick the paritioning option that automatically fills out your hard disk, does it do that with your swap too?
[18:00] <OxDeadC0de> luite try: sudo apt-get install emerald emerald-themes - then launch the emerald manager from fusion-icon, select a theme, then turn on emerald
[18:01] <jussi01> Aizawa: it does everything you need for basic install, so yes.
[18:01] <luite> OxDeadC0de: I tried to install emerald-themes, but the package is not available
[18:02] <OxDeadC0de> luite it could be in multiverse or another repo, try enabling them all (except source)
[18:02] <Aizawa> Hm. Okay.
[18:02] <pulaski> Hello, I've been trying to set up NFS on my client/server setup using hardy 8.04 server and hardy 8.04 desktop.  The output of my rpcinfo -p call lacks the rquota daemon on both machines.  I've  installed nfs-kernel-server on the and server and nfs-common on both the server and the client.  When trying to mount a share on the client it returns 'mount.nfs: internal error'.  /var/log/syslog shows:'rpcbind: server <IP_ADDRESS> not
[18:02] <pulaski> responding, timed out" which I think I read somewhere is a rquota related error message.  Can anyone suggest what's going on here.
[18:02] <russlar> hey all. I'm trying to delete a konsole profile, but the delete button doesn't seem to work. is there a config file I can edit to manually remove a profile?
[18:02] <OxDeadC0de> k menu/system/software sources
[18:03] <dissociative> where are the Kubuntu 8.10 i386 DesktopCD system requirements?
[18:03] <trappist> how do I configure printing in kde4?
[18:04] <draik> I cannot log into my regular account. I can login with "sudo startx", but not with my regular user. There is no error message, but 2 people have confirmed a possible permission issue.
[18:04] <draik> Has anyone else had this issue?
[18:04] <russlar> @draik: only time I've seen that is when I try to change my login screen
[18:04] <russlar> it throws a
[18:04] <alesan> hey, do you know where (a forum or similar) I can express my total regret I upgraded to 8.10 and the lousy KDE4?
[18:04] <russlar> "cannot open file" error
[18:05] <alesan> this upgrade has been the worst thing EVER since I bought a computer
[18:05] <OxDeadC0de> what's wrong with kde4?
[18:05] <jussi01> alesan: you can come and gripe in #kubuntu-offtopic
[18:05] <jussi01> :)
[18:05] <dissociative> hes not ready
[18:05] <alesan> OxDeadC0de: the list would be too long to type here, that is why I am looking for a forum
[18:05] <alesan> ~dict gripe
[18:06] <dissociative> gtk2 looking is so annoying
[18:06] <luite> OxDeadC0de: multiverse is already enabled. I think the package is not available anymore for the newer versions, I cannot find it on pacakges.ubuntu.com either
[18:06] <luite> OxDeadC0de: but I got it working now with another theme from the beryl site, using fusion-icon. thanks for the help :)
[18:08] <OxDeadC0de> how can I find out what repository a specific package is on?
[18:08] <condon> can anyone tell me where to get the snow plugin (running kubuntu 8.10 w/ kde 4.1)
[18:08] <trappist> OxDeadC0de: apt-cache show
[18:08] <condon> got compiz stright from adept
[18:09] <draik> russlar: It's not even like that. I don't get an error message.
[18:09] <russlar> it's installed by default for me, running kwin
[18:09] <OxDeadC0de> trappist: it doesn't show what repo it's on in that :/
[18:09] <trappist> OxDeadC0de: oh sorry, apt-cache policy
[18:10] <jussi01> OxDeadC0de: what package?
[18:10] <russlar> @draik: belgium. it just drops you to terminal session?
[18:10] <OxDeadC0de> emerald-themes, apt-cache show shows me where emerald came from though
[18:10] <draik> russlar: Yes.
[18:10] <jussi01> !info emerald-themes
[18:10] <draik> Well, actually, not really. It just sits there.
[18:10] <trappist> draik: I had a similar problem earlier today, and it was a permissions issue.
[18:11] <draik> I got to terminal and I can login like my regular user.
[18:11] <OxDeadC0de> oh lame, guess I still have it from 8.04
[18:11] <draik> trappist: How did you resolve it?
[18:11] <psyco> what is the command to create "/etc/resolve.conf" ?
[18:11] <goofey> if you agree that one should not have to install gnome to get firefox in kubuntu 8.10, please support bug #292403 in bugs.launchpad.net
[18:11] <russlar> psyco: sudo touch /etc/resolf.conf
[18:11] <psyco> touch?
[18:11] <trappist> draik: well in my case it was safe to totally wipe out the home dir, but you might try chowning yours, like sudo chown -R [yourself] /home/[you]
[18:12] <elvira> hol
[18:12] <OxDeadC0de> touch creates a blank empty file with the given filename
[18:12] <elvira> hol
[18:12] <elvira> hola
[18:12] <draik> trappist: I did that.
[18:12] <trappist> psyco: it's resolv.conf, and yes if you touch it it'll create an empty file if it's not already there
[18:12] <psyco> lol
[18:12] <pegue> hi, is there a debians sid equivalent in ubuntu?
[18:12] <trappist> draik: then it's probably not a permissions problem
[18:12] <russlar> draik: if possible, look ofer the X11 logs
[18:13] <draik> russlar: Where are the logs?
[18:13] <goofey> pegue: ubuntu doesn't have "stable" and "unstable" like debian
[18:13] <OxDeadC0de> -/var/log/xorg.log
[18:13] <pegue> so, is there something newer than version 8.10?
[18:13] <Aizawa> nope
[18:13] <russlar> pegue: no
[18:13] <OxDeadC0de> 8.10 came out 2 days ago
[18:14] <goofey> pegue: nope, that's the latest and greatest
[18:14] <pegue> I know, but i wonder if there was a testing branch, with the lastest versions
[18:14] <elvira> hi
[18:14] <condon> anyone know what gitweb is?
[18:14] <elvira> hola
[18:15] <goofey> pegue: there will be a 9.04 alpha (very broken) in a month or so (?)
[18:15] <russlar> pegue: look around for 9.04 dev
[18:15] <draik> What am I looking for in the log of Xorg.0.log?
[18:15] <boubbin> k
[18:15] <pegue> ok, thanks
[18:15] <OxDeadC0de> draik: any line that says (EE) at the start
[18:16] <russlar> draik: anything that looks like ERROR
[18:16] <OxDeadC0de> draik or (WW)
[18:16] <OxDeadC0de> (EE) = error, (WW) = warning
[18:16] <pegue> as I did download 8.1 beta, i thought it would be now something equivalent
[18:16] <draik> Thanks. Let me check
[18:16] <JackWinter> is this the right channel for discussing kubuntu 8.10 now ?
[18:16] <pegue> sorry for my english :P
[18:16] <russlar> pegue: not for another couple months
[18:16] <psyco> where do I change network settings in Kubuntu 8.10 ?
[18:16] <OxDeadC0de> jackwinter right here?
[18:16] <russlar> JWL yes. here
[18:16] <pegue> ok, i see how it works
[18:17] <draik> I only have 2 WW...
[18:17] <draik> (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
[18:17] <russlar> psyco: what do you want to do?
[18:17] <draik> (WW) "dri2" will not be loaded unless you've specified it to be loaded elsewhere.
[18:18] <JackWinter> o, installed it on my laptop.  every couple of seconds there is a "jiggling" of my screen.  looks like it's trying to open a window and then closing it immidiately ?  any idea what it might be, i have no idea since it goes to fast....
[18:18] <psyco> russlar: well, I just got 8.10, and now, I have a "static IP" I cant configure kubuntu to connect to it
[18:18] <russlar> psyco: heheeh... that;s a bug
[18:19] <russlar> you have to configure it manyally from command line
[18:19] <alesan> hey which window manager can I switch to that looked like KDE2 or 3?
[18:19] <alesan> with a basic task bar, a clock, and a quick launch app tray?
[18:19] <russlar> the syntax is this: sudo ifconfig <interface name> <ipaddress> netmask <netmask>
[18:20] <favro> psyco: you can edit the file /etc/network/interfaces manually to get a static ip working
[18:20] <psyco> russlar: ok ill try that
[18:20] <russlar> psyco: after that, do this: sudo route add default gw <ip of gateway>
[18:21] <psyco> russlar: what is my "interface name" ?
[18:21] <russlar> whatever interface you want to configure
[18:21] <psyco> oh rightt
[18:21] <russlar> do ifconfig -a
[18:21] <russlar> and pick one
[18:21] <Eruaran> I have updated to Kubuntu 8.10
[18:22] <Eruaran> Apart from minor glitches, its looking fairly good.
[18:22] <OxDeadC0de> glad to hear that Eruaran
[18:23] <Eruaran> Seems to be working with my nvidia graphics nicely
[18:23] <russlar> sweet! a guy who's not hating on KDE4!!!
[18:24] <draik> Would either of those 2 warnings be the cause?
[18:24] <Eruaran> its rather nice
[18:24] <psyco> arrgh, still not working
[18:24] <russlar> I don;t think so, draik
[18:24] <HHornblower87> hello, all. I have a quick question for you. I upgraded to 8.10 two days ago, and overall it's been great. The only thing that doesn't want to work is the hibernate/suspend functions.
[18:24] <HHornblower87> it's the same for every power manager I use.
[18:25] <roby70> ciao
[18:25] <russlar> draik: the first one just means that you won't be able to display russian text
[18:25] <HHornblower87> so i'm assuming it's a problem with the back-end, or the kernel, or somesuch.
[18:25] <russlar> hornblow: or your hardware
[18:25] <HHornblower87> I've been trying to google around for it, but the results are very slim.
[18:25] <draik> russlar: Well, that's not an issue. I can't read it even if I saw it.
[18:25] <HHornblower87> russlar: well, it worked fine in 8.04.
[18:25] <HHornblower87> russlar: so I'm kinda doubtful of that.
[18:26] <russlar> somehting tells me maxbaldwin is an asshole
[18:26] <draik> Where else should I look for the cause of my X server issue?
[18:26] <russlar> driak: what video hardware are you using?
[18:26] <OxDeadC0de> draik can you login with other users?
[18:26] <OxDeadC0de> not just root?
[18:27] <draik> russlar: the restricted driver for nVidia
[18:27] <draik> OxDeadC0de: I only have one user
[18:27] <draik> I will create another.
[18:27] <russlar> hmmmm....... did you recently update the kernel?
[18:27] <maxbaldwin> Gah.
[18:27] <draik> russlar: Yes
[18:27] <draik> russlar: Manually, too.
[18:27] <russlar> ah-haha!
[18:27] <JackWinter> russlar: i think kde 4.1 looks awesome...  still didn't use it, but looks get A+
[18:27] <russlar> you need to reinstall the nvidia driver
[18:28] <OxDeadC0de> russlar he shouldn't.. they have a new program that compiles and installs the nvidia driver every time the kernel changes now
[18:28] <OxDeadC0de> russlar: automatically
[18:28] <draik> russlar: How so?
[18:28] <russlar> draik: never mind
[18:28] <draik> Ok
[18:29] <draik> Be right back...
[18:29] <JackWinter> envyng and dkms works real nice...
[18:32] <goofey> if you agree that one should not have to install gnome to get firefox in kubuntu 8.10, please support bug #292403 in bugs.launchpad.net
[18:33] <russlar> goofey: ?????
[18:33] <psyco> is there a way to not use knetworkmanager and set stuff up manually, not matter what I do knetowrkmanager will not "connect" eth0 stays disconnected
[18:33] <goofey> russlar: an install of firefox using adept on a clean install of kubuntu 8.10 requires a *ton* of gnome files - this is wrong
[18:33] <webas> how to unzip.. http://pastie.org/305935 i get error
[18:33] <russlar> when you're manually configuring from ifconfig, ignore knetworkmanager
[18:34] <psyco> russlar: argh, so I'm screwed....
[18:34] <goofey> russlar: firefox, while a gtk app, is not a gnome app
[18:34] <russlar> goofey: well, firefox for linux was written using gtk for a frontend
[18:34] <goofey> russlar: and the dev's are trying to close the bug
[18:34] <russlar> you'lll need gtk to run it
[18:34] <Aizawa> firefox on linux is sooo damn slow, for me at least
[18:34] <goofey> russlar: gtk yes, gnome, no
[18:34] <russlar> didn't ask me for gnome stuff....
[18:35] <goofey> russlar: on a clean install of kubuntu 8.10?
[18:35] <draik> No, alternative user did not work
[18:35] <russlar> yes
[18:35] <OxDeadC0de> draik but root does?
[18:35] <goofey> russlar: well, if you don't mind, take a look at the bug and le tme know if I'm wrong
[18:35] <goofey> er, let me
[18:35] <goofey> russlar: I would love to be wrong about this
[18:35] <russlar> did you install ubufox, or firefox-ubuntu?
[18:36] <draik> OxDeadC0de: Yes. "sudo startx" brings me into the GUI
[18:36] <psyco> why does the damn system settings change each update
[18:36] <HHornblower87> anybody have a thought about suspend/hibernate not working on my 8.10 install?
[18:36] <psyco> its the surce of problems from all my updates
[18:36] <goofey> russlar: 3.0.3+nobinonly-0ubuntu2
[18:37] <OxDeadC0de> draik sorry about all the questions, but, if you log into the new user from a console and run startx, what output do you get?
[18:38] <goofey> russlar: Firefox Web Browser 3.0.3+nobinonly-0ubuntu2
[18:38] <draik> Same as my initial regular user. No error messages. It freezes up on the part where it says that it will be loading the config from the xorg.conf file.
[18:38] <draik> I don't mind the questions. It helps you help me resolve this issue.
[18:38] <esperegu> is lancelot included it kubuntu?
[18:39] <jussi01> yes
[18:39] <OxDeadC0de> draik chec that there are read permissions on /etc/X11/xorg.conf (with ls -lh)
[18:39] <jussi01> !info plasmoid-lancelot | esperegu
[18:39] <esperegu> jussi01: how can I enable/use it?
[18:39] <jussi01> esperegu: install that package, then add it like any other wplasmoid
[18:39] <draik> OxDeadC0de: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1.1K 2008-11-02 10:34 xorg.conf
[18:40] <babeck> I have upgraded to Intrepid, but now I cant use the single quote mark.  Instead I have to press it twice, and it becomes an accent mark for the next character.  tried doing a dpkg-reconfigure, but that does not seem to work.  anyone know of a way to fix the problem.
[18:40] <esperegu> jussi01: cool. thx
[18:40] <OxDeadC0de> draik yet another test: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup1 , and try startx with a user again
[18:40] <OxDeadC0de> you can always move it back
[18:40] <bozza> hi
[18:40] <psyco> zomg, wtf, bqq
[18:41] <psyco> it works randomly
[18:41] <psyco> w/e as long as it works,
[18:41] <draik> OxDeadC0de: Right. Anything else before I leave to try it?
[18:41] <psyco> probably tahanks to you russlar,
[18:41] <russlar> psyco: the static ip works?
[18:41] <psyco> ccheers eveyone
[18:41] <OxDeadC0de> draik y ou shouldn't have to leave to try it ;)
[18:41] <psyco> yeah :D
[18:41] <psyco> bye
[18:41] <russlar> cheers
[18:41] <OxDeadC0de> draik hit control+alt+f2 to switch to another terminal
[18:41] <draik> OxDeadC0de: Haha. I forget about the others
[18:41] <draik> Just a sec
[18:42] <esperegu> jussi01: hmm. installation gives a lot of lines like: Unknown media type in type 'all/allfiles'
[18:42] <bozza> whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu
[18:42] <OxDeadC0de> ubuntu is gnome, kubuntu is kde
[18:42] <jussi01> esperegu: how did you install it?
[18:43] <bozza> oh ok
[18:43] <bozza> is kde better ?
[18:43] <OxDeadC0de> it's personal preference usually
[18:43] <jussi01> !best
[18:44] <goofey> russlar: what was the package you installed?
[18:44] <bozza> ok
[18:44] <draik> OxDeadC0de: xauth: error in locking authority file: /home/draik/.Xauthority
[18:44] <russlar> firefox-3.0
[18:44] <russlar> in adept
[18:44] <draik> OxDeadC0de: Says it 4 times in a row
[18:44] <goofey> russlar: then you must have a bunch of gnome files installed or you know a trick that I don't
[18:44] <russlar> or I just don't care
[18:45] <goofey> russlar: fair enough
[18:45] <OxDeadC0de> draik try renaming ~/.Xauthority
[18:45] <jonathan__> is it correct that my xorg has a permanent cpu usage of over 10%??
[18:46] <bozza> ok ill ask my question again in more detail: when i change volume or when i press mute the sound doesnt change , either in MASTER or using my laptop keys .. but when i change the sound in HEADPHONES , the sound changes . how can i get rid of that problem
[18:46] <draik> Fatal server error: Server is already active for display 0. If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again.
[18:46] <bukharin> Hello! just upgraded to intredid, and everything went fine :)
[18:46] <bukharin> except for one little thingy :(
[18:46] <draik> Done.
[18:46] <draik> Let me try again.
[18:47] <bukharin> bozza: you mean with the laptop hardware buttons?
[18:47] <bozza> i have a problem in Ubuntu .. can i get support here . the ubuntu channel is quite busy
[18:47] <bozza> yea
[18:47] <bukharin> well: anyone knows why firefox refuses to use qt themes?
[18:47] <bozza> or the buttons in MASTER
[18:47] <ardchoille> bozza: not really, the #ubuntu channel is where you need to be
[18:48] <bozza> oh . but does KDE use Volume Control alsa mixer ?
[18:48] <russlar> buk: firefox was written in gtk
[18:48] <bukharin> bozza: looks like you need the correct packages t handle your buttons... it depend on the make of your laptop
[18:48] <draik> OxDeadC0de: Ok, so no error message about the fatal server error.
[18:48] <draik> OxDeadC0de: Reboot and try to login?
[18:48] <bukharin> ruslar: yweah, i know. but inn hardy, gtk-qt-engines worked peachy, and now it just looks as straight out of winows 3.1
[18:48] <bozza> no even if i change volume in volume control under master .. it doesnt do anything
[18:48] <russlar> erm.....
[18:48] <OxDeadC0de> draik: give it a try :), hopefully it will work now
[18:48] <draik> Ok
[18:49] <bozza> but when i change the volume for "Headphones" it works
[18:49] <bukharin> bozza: you mean in the kmixer app?
[18:49] <bozza> hmm . i use ubuntu . and for me its called Volume Control
[18:49] <bukharin> bozza: oh, sorry.
[18:50] <bukharin> bozza: well it looks to me like you got the channels in your sound card mixed up. its fairly common.
[18:50] <bozza> ohh ,, i didnt realize there was such a big difference between ubuntu and kubuntu
[18:50] <bukharin> bozza: unfortunately, conf and fix depende higly on your particular sound setup.
[18:50] <bozza> bukharin: oh how can i change it
[18:51] <bozza> any ideas ?
[18:51] <bukharin> bozza: i wouldn't know. that ALSA config, and its fairly "low-level". in my case, for example, i got some mixup on the channels, or the names passed to ALSA don't mean much, but i just stopped trying to fix it, and changed my wiring
[18:51] <bozza> your wiring ? but its a laptop ?
[18:51] <esperegu> jussi01: just using apt-get install
[18:52] <bukharin> bozza: no, its desktop. that's why i wouldnt know how to fix it in yor case
[18:52] <esperegu> jussi01: you know how I can change order of the items in a panel?
[18:52] <bozza> oh ok
[18:52] <jussi01> esperegu: ok. did it appear in your add widgets window?
[18:52] <bukharin> bozza: your best bet wuld be to look for documentation on your laptop mdel for ubuntu
[18:52] <bozza> thanks anyway
[18:52] <bozza> ok thats a good idea
[18:53] <jussi01> esperegu: right click on the panel -> panel settings -> drag and drop :)
[18:53] <bukharin> bozza: if you are lucky, (ot have a dell) that kind of things is thoroughly dpcumented, but since it depends on the hardware layout of your card, theres not much that can be done from the OS side (ie, (k)ubuntu)
[18:53] <bukharin> bozza: good luck. you'll need it :)
[18:53] <esperegu> jussi01: yeah I was able to add it. trying to order stuff now
[18:54] <esperegu> jussi01: drag and drop... NIZ!
[18:54] <enzo_> OxDeadC0de: This time, there are errors when trying to login with my username rather than root
[18:54] <bukharin> well.. back to my main concern: any one has any idea why firefox suddenly stopped working with gtk-qt-engine?
[18:54] <enzo_> OxDeadC0de: EE Unable to locate/open config file
[18:54] <bukharin> it worked in hardy with kde 4.1.2, and it stoped working after dist-upgrade
[18:54] <enzo_> OxDeadC0de: EE open /dev/fb0: No such file or direcotry
[18:54] <jussi01> esperegu: one little trick, you can change lancelots icon by right clicking on the launcher, then lancelot settings :)
[18:55] <enzo_> OxDeadC0de: EE Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[18:56] <fale__> is there an irc client completle written in qt4?
[18:56] <esperegu> jussi01: oeps... Fatal Error Occured... plasma crashed =)
[18:56] <DarkSmoke> fale__: wait for the next version of kvirc
[18:57] <enzo_> OxDeadC0de: What am I missing?
[18:57] <fale__> DarkSmoke: atm no irc client is written in qt4/kde4?
[18:58] <JontheEchidna> fale__: quassel
[18:58] <fale__> thx JontheEchidna
[18:59] <OxDeadC0de> enzo_ sorry was afkish back tho, move your xorg.conf back ^^
[19:01] <nRx> anyone who know if there is a real-time backup tool?
[19:02] <maxbaldwin> Keep can backup a directory at regular intervals
[19:02] <maxbaldwin> nRx
[19:03] <Fiona> sgh
[19:03] <nRx> maxbaldwin: but it should be updated after (example: editing a file)
[19:03] <nRx> updated=backuped
[19:03] <bukharin> anyone knows why gtk-qt-engine doesn't work in firefox?
[19:03] <bukharin> after dist-upgrade?
[19:04] <maxbaldwin> If you set it to be backed up every day or something, it wouldn't matter.
[19:04] <maxbaldwin> even after you edited it
[19:05] <ardchoille> bukharin: Do you have these packages installed?  gtk2-engines-qtpixmap gtk-engines-qtpixmap gtk2-engines-qtcurve
[19:06] <nRx> maxbaldwin: thanks but this isn a real-time backup tool ... keep only back up at a special time or every day or ... but not after knowing that there is a difference between folder A and folder B so that it has to backup.
[19:06] <bukharin> ardchoille: don't know, let em check. maybe dist-upgrade removed them
[19:07] <maxbaldwin> nRx: Ah, someone else can probably help then. I'm not sure of a program that does that. (I don't use backup programs)
[19:07] <ardchoille> bukharin: well, you had to manually install them to begin with
[19:08] <bukharin> yes, i had forgotten that i neede extra packages, and thought that dist-upgrade would just keep them. i just installed, let me see if ff works now
[19:08] <psyco> hey im back XD,
[19:08] <bukharin> nope, still looks horrible
[19:08] <ardchoille> bukharin: ok, did you set the gtk stuff up in systemsettings ?
[19:08] <psyco> anyone had the problem in adept where the search list flashes and then nothing shows up?
[19:09] <bukharin> ardchoille: ywah, i told it to use my kde theme
[19:09] <JontheEchidna> try installing libbonobo2
[19:10] <ardchoille> bukharin: try chaning it to the qt option and back and then restart ff
[19:10] <bukharin> ardchoille: jsut did that. didn't work :(
[19:11] <ardchoille> :(
[19:12] <ardchoille> bukharin: ok, open ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde in a text editor and take a look
[19:12] <bukharin> ardchoille: i tried with wvery option, qt4, qtcurve, raleigh, use my kde theme. firefox looks exactly the same with each. terrible, that is :) but the tab bar now looks good...
[19:12] <ardchoille> bukharin: I can post mine if you want
[19:12] <bukharin> ok, give me a sec
[19:13] <bukharin> NO such file or directory
[19:13] <bukharin> ardchoille: there gtkrc-2.0-kde
[19:14] <ardchoille> bukharin: that file was created for me by the systemsettings
[19:14] <bukharin> yeah, it was under a diff name. there it is
[19:14] <bukharin> gtkrc-2.0-kde
[19:14] <ardchoille> does it have your qt stuff in it?
[19:15] <ardchoille> bukharin: actually that's the same filename
[19:15] <bukharin> yeah, my bed, sorry.
[19:15] <bukharin> i have three files: gtk-2.0-kde, gtk-2.0-kde4
[19:15] <bukharin> gtk-qt-engine_rc
[19:16] <sbattey> http://annma.blogspot.com/2008/11/khangman-kde-4-broken-in-intrepid.html <--this is a little ridiculous don't you think?
[19:16] <ardchoille> ok, check to see if the *kde4 file has your qt stuff in it
[19:16] <ardchoille> sbattey: do you know who annma is?
[19:17] <sbattey> ardchoille: I do.
[19:17] <sbattey> ardchoille: I'm not saying her blog is ridiculous, I'm saying the fact that it is broken is.
[19:17] <KiZTiaN> hello
[19:18] <bukharin> it says:
[19:18] <ardchoille> sbattey: ah, yeah
[19:18] <bukharin> gtk-theme-name="Qt4"
[19:18] <bukharin> gtk-font-name="DejaVu Sans 9"
[19:19] <KiZTiaN> i need help with kubuntu 8.10 and radeon 9200
[19:19] <bukharin> ardchoille: thanks a lot for your time, but i have to go now...
[19:19] <ardchoille> bukharin: that looks correct, not sure what the problem is
[19:19] <bukharin> ardchoille: i'll try messing with those, to see if i can fix it
[19:19] <ardchoille> ok
[19:19] <bukharin> ardchoille: thanks. bye!
[19:19] <ardchoille> yw
[19:20] <sbattey> ardchoille: People blame kubuntu crashes on KDE, the sad part is, is that this manages to slip through to a release.
[19:21] <ardchoille> sbattey: you know what they say.. to err is human, to really foul things up requires a computer
[19:22] <KDesk> why when I install mplayer the soud out put is to pulse?
[19:22] <KDesk> I dont have pulseaudio installed, so it should be in alsa o xine or phonon
[19:22] <KDesk> is that a bug?
[19:22] <ardchoille> KDesk: I thought pulseaudio was the default starting in Hardy
[19:23] <hazzy> Yea, I think it is
[19:23] <jtechidna> ardchoille: not in kubuntu it isn't
[19:23] <KDesk> no
[19:23] <KDesk> ardchoille:  in kubunut not
[19:23] <ardchoille> jtechidna: Ah, thanks for that info
[19:23] <hazzy> Oh, ok
[19:23]  * ardchoille just recently switched from Ubuntu to Kubuntu
[19:23] <Tm_T> ardchoille: noone believes you, you old KDE user
[19:23] <Tm_T> (;)
[19:24] <ardchoille> hehe
[19:26] <fillip> first time here
[19:26] <fillip> hi!
[19:26] <ardchoille> !hi
[19:26] <fillip> :)
[19:29] <psyco> key, anyone know why adept in 8.10 doesnt show up any searches?
[19:30] <psyco> they just flash a list for a sec and then nothing
[19:31] <bastian> psyco: if I disable show upgradable packages it works
[19:31] <psyco> bastian: ok ill try that
[19:31] <psyco> rofl
[19:31] <psyco> nice
[19:32] <psyco> "minor bug" ..... >.>
[19:32] <OculusAquilae> psyco: saw the same bug a minute ago
[19:33] <psyco> is firefox in the repository?
[19:34] <ardchoille> !info firefox
[19:34] <ardchoille> psyco: yep
[19:34] <psyco> so its a bad thing if its not showing up....
[19:35] <OculusAquilae> psyco: seems to work after having clicked on this button one time
[19:36] <psyco> uuugghh
[19:36] <enzo_> OxDeadC0de: I have moved the file back, what should I do?
[19:36] <psyco> this is fail.
[19:38] <psyco> i want my old adept rwarwar
[19:39] <OculusAquilae> I don't get it reproduced
[19:39] <ardchoille> Someone needs to make a distro based on Kubuntu but with kde3 and gimp, firefox, synaptic ported to qt
[19:40] <psyco> !info synaptic
[19:40] <psyco> i dont know whats wrong :S:S, adept gets a list but its so small
[19:41] <enzo_> I'm sure where to look now so that I can resolve my xserver issue.
[19:42] <jmichaelx> could someone possibly tell me how to enable the desktop cube in intrepid? i have been poking around, but nothing i have tried has seemed to work.
[19:44] <enzo_> Is anyone here using the nVidia driver from the restricted hardware? I want to know if maybe it's just me having the issue with only root being able to use the GUI as opposed to a regular user, too.
[19:46] <OxDeadC0de> enzo: ls -lh /dev/nvidia* do you have read/write permissions for all users?
[19:46] <OxDeadC0de> enzo_ /\
[19:47] <jmichaelx> man, they sure did a number on adept
[19:47] <psyco> jmichaelx: yup, its quite the fail
[19:47] <draik> OxDeadC0de: Here is what I show...
[19:47] <draik> crw-rw---- 1 root video 195,   0 2008-11-02 10:51 /dev/nvidia0
[19:47] <draik> crw-rw---- 1 root video 195, 255 2008-11-02 10:51 /dev/nvidiactl
[19:48] <jmichaelx> fail is definitely the word
[19:48] <OxDeadC0de> enzo_ try adding yourself to the user group, or do (insecure way) chmod a+rw /dev/nvidia*
[19:48] <OxDeadC0de> enzo_ video group I mean sorry
[19:48] <draik> I am part of the video group
[19:48] <ardchoille> OxDeadC0de: the device it self shouldn't have read and write perms for all users
[19:48] <draik> I will run the command just the same
[19:49] <psyco> ugh, im totally haing 8.10
[19:49] <psyco> hating*
[19:49] <draik> psyco: So angry you can't type?
[19:49] <psyco> draik: almost ;)
[19:50] <draik> OxDeadC0de: I have run the command you provided.
[19:50] <larsivi> hai - after going through the motions to actually upgrade all the packages, ibex is mostly working for me - but not Ctrl+F (!) in konqueror
[19:50] <larsivi> anyone know what to look for?
[19:50] <OxDeadC0de> draik I just had a thought, does sudo modprobe nvidia give any errors?
[19:51] <jmichaelx> i am liking 8.10 much more than i thought i would. i was really pissed that i was being forced to abandon kde3 if i wanted intrepid.... but, i must sheepishly admit that it's pretty nice ^.^
[19:51] <mog_> hello
[19:51] <draik> OxDeadC0de: Nope.
[19:51] <mog_> i'm ubuntu , i was here afternoon on the "ubuntu" name
[19:52] <psyco> jmichaelx: i agree, I totally love the looks, but so far, nothing is working at all
[19:52] <larsivi> mog_: not very smart to use such a nick :)
[19:52] <jmichaelx> mog_: so YOU'RE that 'ubuntu' guy that keeps showing up in here!!
[19:52] <draik> mog_: Everyone is ubuntu when they join with the LiveCD or such.
[19:52] <jmichaelx> psyco: what issues are you having?
[19:52] <psyco> jmichaelx: right now, adept, no list is showing up when I do a search
[19:53] <OxDeadC0de> draik: try startx again as your other regular user (the test one you ade)
[19:53] <psyco> change inng the "upgradable filter" sorta fixes this
[19:53] <OxDeadC0de> draik: now that you have added r/w perms to all users for the nvidia devices.. which you *shouldn't* have to do :/
[19:53] <psyco> so i can see some, but nto rnearly close enough to the many packages I should see.
[19:53] <psyco> not nearly*
[19:53] <Dragonath> what is the state of the fglrx driver? can it do 3d acceleration reasonably well or not?
[19:54] <mog_> ok, i've installed kubuntu 8.10 on my pc 512MB RAM , 30GB HDD and processor AMD Sempron 1.8Ghz
[19:54] <jmichaelx> psyco: i dunno, but the new adept seems worthless to me. i am using either synaptic, or more frequently aptitude from the terminal
[19:54] <psyco> jmichaelx: good idea
[19:54] <mog_> and i find kubuntu more fast than ubuntu with gnome , few strange no?
[19:54] <larsivi> not really
[19:55] <draik> OxDeadC0de: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keygiving up.
[19:55] <psyco> is there a way to get adept kde 3 back easily?
[19:55] <psyco> meh, nvm
[19:55] <psyco> i liked synaptic better
[19:56] <jmichaelx> psyco: i seriously doubt it. just use synaptic
[19:56] <mog_> ok , ah it's JohnFlux2 you give me a link about compiz on VIA Unichrome S3G graphic card
[19:56] <newton> hello
[19:56] <geri> hi is there a gui based openvpn cleint tool for kubuntu?
[19:56] <enzo_> OxDeadC0de: xinit Resource temporarily unavailable (errno 11): unable to connect to X server
[19:56] <Inquisitor> Does anyboby know why Ubuntu 8.10 doesn't support Xen virtualization?
[19:56] <enzo_> OxDeadC0de: xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error.
[19:56] <newton> on a fresh install, what should i install in kde?
[19:56] <mog_>  JohnFlux2 ?
[19:56] <newton> youtube does not work
[19:56] <Roey> Inquisitor:  it has it enabled by default, thereby making nvidia not work
[19:56] <mr_clark> Hi guys. Playing with LTSP. Got it working fine with Ubuntu 8.10 but I really want KDE4. Why doesn't the alternate kubuntu disk offer LTSP install?
[19:57] <Roey> :P
[19:57] <jmichaelx> Inquisitor: it doesn't? you may need to use the alternate install CD to select the correct kernel, but i would be fairly sure that xen support is available
[19:57] <OxDeadC0de> enzo_ / draik: make sure the .Xauthority file doesn't exist
[19:57] <mog_>  JohnFlux2 are you here?
[19:57] <jchonig> Argh, going from 7.10 to 8.10, Kwin will not run on my second monitor (not Twinview or Xinerama), any ideas?  X knows it is there, just not Kwin
[19:58] <draik> OxDeadC0de: Ok. Let me try again
[19:58] <trappist> does dolphin not know how to peek into directories to pic an icon based on their contents?
[19:59] <enzo_> OxDeadC0de: xinit: Interruped system call (errno 4): unable to connect to X server
[19:59] <enzo_> OxDeadC0de: xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error.
[19:59] <mrunagi> anyone know how to fix the 'cannot commit changes' message when upgrading?
[19:59] <Dragnslcr> newton- probably Flash
[19:59] <mog_> ?
[19:59] <mog_>  JohnFlux2 ?
[19:59] <kkerwin> Hi. Has anyone had any problems with the fglrx driver and Ubuntu 8.10 (kernel 2.6.27)?
[20:00] <OxDeadC0de> enzo_ kill all your xorg sessions, remove all .Xauthority files, and try again :/, this is bugging me that it won't work :P
[20:00] <jchonig> Is there magic to getting KWin to run on the second screen?
[20:00] <howtoo> somebody else has problems with kubuntu 8.10 and alsa sound for 82801I chip?
[20:00] <draik> OxDeadC0de: Ok. Just a sec.
[20:01] <psyco> where do I change shortcut keys like "switch to desktop 2"
[20:01] <enzo_> OxDeadC0de: Trying it now
[20:01] <mog_> ok
[20:01] <mog_> infact
[20:02] <enzo_> I'm in!
[20:02] <OxDeadC0de> yay finally!!!
[20:02] <mrunagi> lol i dont guess im upgrading
[20:02] <ardchoille> psyco: systemsettings > Computer Administration > Keyboard & Mouse?
[20:02] <vasilisa> you guys will love this
[20:02] <enzo_> OxDeadC0de: Let me reboot and see what happens
[20:02] <OxDeadC0de> enzo) good luck!
[20:02] <vasilisa> i went "sudo rm *" in my /etc/libs folder
[20:02] <psyco> ardchoille: I rhink so, good call
[20:03] <mog_> i would try to run compiz-fusion with VIA Unichrome S3G graphic card
[20:03] <psyco> yup, thanks!
[20:03] <vasilisa> greatest epic fail moment of my life
[20:04] <ardchoille> vasilisa: /etc/libs ?
[20:04] <jmichaelx> vasilisa: i saw a great video on youtube of someone rm -rf-ing their entire filesystem
[20:04] <vasilisa> ardchoille: no /usr/libs
[20:04] <vasilisa> its where all the dynamically linked binary files go
[20:04] <vasilisa> so if you erase it... yeah
[20:05] <vasilisa> so anyway, thats why i finally upgraded from gutsy to hardy
[20:05] <enzo_> jmichaelx: Got a link to that? Was it a spoof or were they being an ass about it?
[20:05] <pulaski> Hello, does anyone know how I can obtain the "rquotad" daemon?
[20:05] <mog_> nobody?
[20:05] <Dragnslcr> !info rquotad
[20:05] <Dragnslcr> !info rquota
[20:06] <jmichaelx> enzo_: i would have to look. no, the person did it on purpose, with 'born to be wild' playing as accompanying music
[20:06] <john-charles> Hi all, i've been running kde4.1 under 8.04 for a while, I had also setup pulseaudio as my sound server, configured phonon to use pulse. I had hoped that in 8.10 pulse would be configured by default. I can reconfigure it, but I am wondering if there are any new instructions for doing it?
[20:06] <vasilisa> he probably had it backed up and was reinstalling
[20:06] <enzo_> jmichaelx: LOL
[20:06] <jmichaelx> vasilisa: well, hopefully you were able to save your data, and all is alright now?
[20:06] <newton> how do i install flash?
[20:07] <Dragnslcr> !flash
[20:07] <vasilisa> jmichaelx: yeah its fine. i just feel dumb
[20:07] <newton> adapt is sooo.... annoying... is there a synaptics for kubuntu?
[20:07] <john-charles> newton: flash now has a .deb package on there website, it actually works unlike the flashplayer-nonfree.
[20:07] <enzo_> OxDeadC0de: Ok. There there is an issue with my main account.
[20:07] <jmichaelx> vasilisa: well, it is often those feel-dumb experiences that teach us the most. i have certainly had my share ^.^
[20:07] <vasilisa> i was trying to delete some libs so that i could see if my program would compile with said libs as part of the project, instead of the system.
[20:08] <newton> JohnFlux2: nice
[20:08] <enzo_> OxDeadC0de: The main account cannot access X server while the new account can.
[20:08] <newton> ok
[20:08] <newton> thks
[20:08] <vasilisa> jmichaelx: true
[20:08] <psyco> ardchoille: its not working, I can set the shortcuts but then I press them nothing happens
[20:08] <ardchoille_> psyco: :(
[20:09] <OxDeadC0de> enzo_ did you remove the .Xauthority in your main account?
[20:09] <mog_> run graphical effect on VIA Unichrome S3G graphique card , nobody know how i do ? please
[20:09] <enzo_> Yes
[20:09] <jmichaelx> could someone possibly tell me how to enable the desktop cube in intrepid? i have been poking around, but nothing i have tried has seemed to work.
[20:09] <enzo_> OxDeadC0de: Just before I rebooted the computer, I removed it
[20:09] <OxDeadC0de> enzo_ then umm, try ls -lha in your main account, see if any files belong to root
[20:09] <bill> Hello all
[20:10] <hazzy> jmichaelx: Did you install fusion-icon?
[20:10] <enzo_> OxDeadC0de: ls -lha /home/draik ?
[20:10] <mopped> I'm trying to associate .ps files with okular, where can I find 'okular' (in what directory..)
[20:10] <OxDeadC0de> enzo_ exactly :)
[20:10] <ardchoille> enzo_: find ~ -user root
[20:10] <jmichaelx> fusion-icon? no, i had not heard of it
[20:10] <OxDeadC0de> enzo_ ardchoille's way is better ;)
[20:11] <hazzy> jmichaelx: sudo apt-get install fusion-icon
[20:11] <jmichaelx> hazzy: ty, will do
[20:11] <enzo_> OxDeadC0de: Ok, runnning ardchoille's method
[20:11] <psyco> jmichaelx: its to handle compiz, makes stuff easier to configure
[20:11] <bill> Just upgraded to 10-8 it does not geet along with my video card.
[20:12] <Tm_T> bill: which is what?
[20:12] <enzo_> ~/.kde/share/apps/RecentDocuments/Xorg.0.log.desktop
[20:12] <bill> voodo 3..
[20:12] <enzo_><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:12] <OxDeadC0de> does xorg create any files in /tmp ?
[20:12] <OxDeadC0de> !pastebin | enzo_
[20:12] <psyco> how do I change my clokc to 12 hour instead of 24 hour?
[20:13] <enzo_> OxDeadC0de: sorry. I can't pastebin from CTRL+ALT+F1
[20:13] <bill> right mouse click on the clock
[20:13] <OxDeadC0de> oh yeah :/
[20:13] <Tm_T> enzo_: tty1 you mean
[20:13] <Tm_T> and you can (;)
[20:13] <OxDeadC0de> enzo_ we're looking for files in your home folder though, not in subfolders of your home folder :)
[20:13] <enzo_> Well, the main thing here is ~/.kde/share/apps/kuser
[20:13] <psyco> bill: there is no time format setting
[20:14] <enzo_> Ok
[20:14] <Tm_T> just use magical commandline browser like lynx
[20:14] <enzo_> No, nothing there.
[20:14] <enzo_> Tm_T: I have lynx but don't recall using it in quite some time.
[20:14] <mog_>  JohnFlux2 please are you available few minutes ?
[20:15] <bill> Your right. Sorry..I'm 0 for 3 today.
[20:15] <kkerwin> Hi. I'm on 8.10 w/ kernel 2.6.27 and I'm trying to setup the fglrx driver. aticonfig segfaults with the following: Nov  2 13:38:37 kerwin kernel: [81872.270803] aticonfig[24966]: segfault at c ip 080539fd sp bfb12790 error 6 in aticonfig[8048000+34000]
[20:15] <OxDeadC0de> enzo_ try chown draik:draik /home/draik -R
[20:15] <kkerwin> * above is from dmesg/syslog. The segfault is preventing me from configuring X11 to use the fglrx driver, and so I am stuck on VESA at the moment. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
[20:16] <enzo_> OxDeadC0de: Done. Had to be done with sudo, BTW.
[20:16] <OxDeadC0de> did that help? ^^
[20:17] <enzo_> OxDeadC0de: I'll check. Just a moment
[20:17] <OxDeadC0de> if not, you can always simply backup your home folder (mv /home/draik /home/draik-backup), erase the draik user, then re-add it
[20:17] <OxDeadC0de> make sure you have another admin user before doing that though (or have set a password to the root account so you can log into that)
[20:17] <miguel> Hola
[20:18] <jm> hi
[20:18] <jm> I installed Kubuntu and seems ok
[20:18] <jm> however, I'm getting a messed up image somethimes
[20:19] <enzo_> OxDeadC0de: ummmm....
[20:19] <enzo_> OxDeadC0de: WOOHOO! WE GOT IT!
[20:19] <OxDeadC0de> enzo_ yay!!!!!!!!
[20:19] <jm> like a flicker...        every 5 or 10 seconds
[20:20] <jm> any ideas, guys?
[20:20] <jmichaelx> hmm, there are some things that fusion-icon will not allow me to select
[20:20] <ardchoille> OxDeadC0de: May I pm you?
[20:20] <draik> SWEET!
[20:20] <tokah> does krandr work for anyone
[20:20] <hazzy> jmichaelx: Such as?
[20:20] <draik> OxDeadC0de: Now, onto more pressing matters.
[20:20] <kkerwin> tokah: Aye.
[20:21] <OxDeadC0de> ardchoille if you wish :)
[20:21] <draik> OxDeadC0de: Do you.. or do you not... in fact.. know... the word?
[20:21] <jmichaelx> hazzy: well, snow, for example
[20:21] <OxDeadC0de> draik: which word? :P
[20:21] <tokah> kkerwin, for some reason my does nothing but change the resolution, if i want to change were one monitor is i have to use xrandr in terminal
[20:21] <draik> OxDeadC0de: B-b-b--b-b-b-BIRD BIRD BIRD, Bird is the word...
[20:21] <larsivi> anyone about not working ctrl+f in konqueror?
[20:22] <kkerwin> tokah: Lo siento, but I'm afraid that I can't help you there ... :-(
[20:22] <hazzy> jmichaelx: Ah, interesting...I'll upgrade compiz-fusion and tell you whether I experience the same
[20:22] <kkerwin> Hi. I'm on 8.10 w/ kernel 2.6.27 and I'm trying to setup the fglrx driver. aticonfig segfaults with the following: Nov  2 13:38:37 kerwin kernel: [81872.270803] aticonfig[24966]: segfault at c ip 080539fd sp bfb12790 error 6 in aticonfig[8048000+34000]
[20:22] <Kubuntu_N00b> seems nice, but that flickering is damn annoying
[20:22] <kkerwin> * above is from dmesg/syslog. The segfault is preventing me from configuring X11 to use the fglrx driver, and so I am stuck on VESA at the moment. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
[20:24] <Kubuntu_N00b> this thing is troublesome... any ideas what it is and how to fix it?
[20:25] <mog_> can you help me please?
[20:25] <hazzy> Don't ask if we can help you, just ask the question
[20:25] <draik> What is the command to see if I have glx running on this?
[20:26] <jchonig> jchonig anyone on zaphoding and 8.10?
[20:26] <jt66> !please >mog_
[20:26] <OxDeadC0de> draik: glxinfo
[20:26] <mog_> sorry ok
[20:26] <draik> OxDeadC0de: Oh yay! Segfault!
[20:26] <Kubuntu_N00b> So... nobody can help me with that?
[20:27] <rien-ne-va-plus> hi everyone, ive got a problem with kubuntu - how do i get the files off my mobile phone using bluetooth?
[20:27] <OxDeadC0de> draik crud, yet more problems.. how'd you end up getting all these issues to begin with?
[20:27] <draik> I upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10
[20:27] <rien-ne-va-plus> and why are the bluetooth tools only accessible via console?
[20:27] <hazzy> Kubuntu_N00b: Sorry, no ideas
[20:28] <mog_> so, i would run compiz-fusion on VIA Unichrome S3G graphic card
[20:28] <Kubuntu_N00b> That's so bad...  Just a nano
[20:28] <OxDeadC0de> !pastebin
[20:29] <mog_>  JohnFlux2 are you busy ?
[20:29] <hazzy> Kubuntu_N00b: Try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=482398
[20:30] <draik> OxDeadC0de: http://paste.ubuntu.com/66409/
[20:31] <howtoo> anybody know of some good ipod software for linux? preferably QT4 =)
[20:31] <mog_> i search a web site link about compiz-fusion with VIA Unichrome S3G graphic card
[20:31] <howtoo> and, it should be girlfriendly
[20:31] <howtoo> =)
[20:31] <coreymon77> howtoo: well you can do the most girl friendly thing of all and just run itunes with wine?
[20:31] <Kubuntu_N00b> hmm... not exactly my case...
[20:32] <Kubuntu_N00b> it's like everything messes up on the Screen, but rearrange on a split second
[20:32] <Kubuntu_N00b> like a glitch
[20:32] <coreymon77> afaik wine can run itunes
[20:32] <OxDeadC0de> draik: try making it look like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/66411/ (Without all the modelines in the monitor section, those are there for when I launch fullscreen apps like wine games that have a smaller resolution, so it uses the right refresh rate for my lcd)
[20:32] <coreymon77> but theres also amarok and other stuff like that
[20:32] <rien> is there any software to use kubuntu with a mobile phone via bluetooth?
[20:32] <ardchoille> howtoo: I was told amarok can handle ipods
[20:32] <OxDeadC0de> and remove the pci-id from the device section
[20:32] <coreymon77> ardchoille: it can
[20:33] <ardchoille> ah, ok
[20:33] <howtoo> oh, sweet
[20:33] <coreymon77> howtoo: what ipod btw
[20:33] <Kubuntu_N00b> it's kubuntu related as that doesn't happens with Xubuntu or Ubuntu
[20:33] <Kubuntu_N00b> so, there must be something related to KDE
[20:34] <howtoo> coreymon77: uh, dunno
[20:34] <OxDeadC0de> draik: I mean the busid, yours is probably different
[20:34] <howtoo> 4gb
[20:34] <coreymon77> howtoo: is it a touch?
[20:34] <hazzy> Kubuntu_N00b: What kind of graphics card do you have?
[20:34] <howtoo> nope
[20:34] <Kubuntu_N00b> Intel Integrated
[20:34] <coreymon77> howtoo: okay then, amarok can do it
[20:34] <howtoo> coreymon77: cool =)
[20:34] <ardchoille> coreymon77: amarok can't handle the touch?
[20:35] <Kubuntu_N00b> Intel Mobile 915GM
[20:35] <coreymon77> ardchoille: most things have issues with the touch
[20:35] <coreymon77> ardchoille: with one of those, youre better off wine'ing itunes
[20:35] <ardchoille> ok, I'll remember to not buy the touch
[20:35] <OxDeadC0de> draik: so like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/66414/
[20:35] <coreymon77> ardchoille: i have one, and not to say i dont love it (especially after jailbreaking) but, many things have issues with it
[20:36] <draik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/66415/
[20:36] <Kubuntu_N00b> Intel Mobile 915GM, hazzy
[20:36] <coreymon77> ardchoille: then again, i have a mac to handle my ipod anyways :P
[20:36] <hazzy> Kubuntu_N00b: Alright
[20:36] <ardchoille> hehe
[20:36] <OxDeadC0de> draik: remove the subsection display too
[20:36] <OxDeadC0de> draik: those rely on the modelines existing in the monitor section
[20:36] <OxDeadC0de> draik: just copy/paste the last one I posted ;)
[20:37] <Kubuntu_N00b> also, it's not Compiz related as I shutted it down and still getting this weird thing
[20:37] <hazzy> Kubuntu_N00b: PM me the output of lsmod
[20:38] <jussi01> !paste
[20:38] <SiDi> Hi peeps
[20:38] <hazzy> Err, ok, pastebin
[20:38] <draik> OxDeadC0de: Done.
[20:38] <draik> Reboot?
[20:38] <OxDeadC0de> draik just control+alt+backspace, it will restart xorg
[20:38] <Julien> Hi!
[20:38] <draik> OxDeadC0de: Ha! Forgot about that.
[20:38] <draik> Hope to be right back...
[20:38] <jussi01> draik: wait!
[20:39] <jussi01> doh!
[20:39] <enzo_> jussi01: What?
[20:39] <OxDeadC0de> jussi01 he still has a user on this chat, , enzo_ is him too ;)
[20:39] <jussi01> OxDeadC0de: you need alt+e as well after the ctrl alt backspace...
[20:39] <Julien> How can I change the theme in Kde 4.0?
[20:39] <jussi01> enzo_: ^^
[20:39] <OxDeadC0de> jussi01 alt+e?
[20:40] <jussi01> OxDeadC0de: ctrl alt backspace takes you to the kdm login, but doesnt actually restart x
[20:40] <jussi01> alt+e at kdm login actully restarts x
[20:40] <OxDeadC0de> jussi01 it kills xorg, kdm starts another x session
[20:40] <enzo_> yup
[20:40] <jtechidna> yup
[20:40] <SiDi> !wiki change theme
[20:41]  * SiDi slaps ubottu
[20:41] <jussi01> SiDi: !!!
[20:41]  * enzo_ slaps SiDi
[20:41] <SiDi> Well, Julien's wondering, and all of you do know the answer !
[20:41] <jussi01> !owner > SiDi
[20:41] <hazzy> Kubuntu_N00b: This didn't happen in Ubuntu?
[20:41] <Kubuntu_N00b> nope
[20:41] <Kubuntu_N00b> neither in XFCE
[20:42] <enzo_> I'm curious...
[20:42] <enzo_> !owner
[20:42] <enzo_> Ah
[20:42] <ardchoille> it's jussi01's bot :)
[20:42]  * SiDi slaps jussi01 then.
[20:42] <enzo_> jussi01: Well, that makes it double
[20:42]  * SiDi runs.
[20:42] <enzo_> WTH?
[20:43] <jussi01> enzo_: ?
[20:43] <OxDeadC0de> enzo_ ?
[20:43] <enzo_> SiDi just slapped jussi01
[20:43] <hazzy> Kubuntu_N00b: Sorry, I have no other ideas
[20:43] <enzo_> OxDeadC0de: :( It didn't work
[20:43] <OxDeadC0de> enzo_ xorg still starts though right?
[20:43] <Kubuntu_N00b> thanks, hazzy
[20:44] <Kubuntu_N00b> i guess that I should go back to Gnome then... this flickering or glitching or whatever is killing my eyes
[20:44] <enzo_> OxDeadC0de: Nope. Took me to the TTY1
[20:45] <enzo_> Restored mine right now and I'm back into Kubuntu
[20:45] <OxDeadC0de> enzo_ hmm, try erasing the DefaultDepth line from xorg.conf
[20:45] <enzo_> Why doesn't Yakuake remember my settings for 100% width and 50% height?
[20:45] <OxDeadC0de> enzo that might require the subsection display to exist, which we removed
[20:46] <OxDeadC0de> enzo_ kde doesn't kill it properly, simply set it to your preffered settings, then close yakuake via the close button on it, then restart it
[20:46] <enzo_> Was about to do that. Thanks
[20:47] <snikker> hi, i've updatd to 8.10 and now i can't read the name of files that contain iso8859-15 chars, can you help me please?
[20:47] <OxDeadC0de> /w enzo_ and to get glx to work, try this xorg.conf then :/, if it doesn't work restore yours again ^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/66420/
[20:47] <OxDeadC0de> oops :P
[20:48] <draik> OxDeadC0de: I'm about to use the Hardware Drivers to enable nVidia
[20:48] <OxDeadC0de> draik: that's a good idea ;)
[20:49] <gsa10132> is Azureus the commonly used bittorrent client on Linux? I'm about to give up on that.. I have opened both the UDP and TCP ports (internally and externally), have uPnP activated, and ports are forwarded, but I still can't connect to other peers..
[20:49] <draik> gsa10132: Why not use ktorrent?
[20:49] <OxDeadC0de> gsa10132 I typically use uTorrent with wine
[20:49] <gsa10132> hmm, yeah, I'll probably try something else.. Azureus is just killing me..
[20:50] <draik> I used Azureus about 2-3 years ago when I was using windows XP
[20:50] <vurv> where do you go to get more window decorations for KDE4?
[20:50] <OxDeadC0de> kde-look.org
[20:50] <vurv> OxDeadC0de: which category though?
[20:50] <rien-ne-va-plus> does anybody around here know a good software to use your mobile phone with kubuntu?
[20:50] <rien-ne-va-plus> like data exchange?
[20:50] <vurv> i just upgraded to Intrepid last night
[20:50] <vurv> so this is my first time in KDE4
[20:50] <OxDeadC0de> vurv: the window decorations section?
[20:51] <vurv> OxDeadC0de: so the 3.x ones apply to 4?
[20:51] <draik> OxDeadC0de: I can't get it to activate. pressing the button doesn't do anything.
[20:51] <OxDeadC0de> vurv: there's a native kde4 section
[20:51] <OxDeadC0de> draik: could the existing install of the nvidia drivers you have going be conflicting with it?
[20:51] <vurv> OxDeadC0de: yeah, i'm totally blind
[20:51] <vurv> just saw that
[20:52] <draik> OxDeadC0de: At the bottom, it says that an older version of this driver is in use.
[20:52] <draik> OxDeadC0de: IIRC, that didn't stop me last time
[20:53] <OxDeadC0de> draik: Ahh, well, you can either remove it, or in the section "Device" add: driver "nv" to make sure it's not in use (and sudo rmmod nvidia - after restarting xorg with the nv driver)
[20:54] <OxDeadC0de> in xorg.conf
[20:57] <janorcutt> ayo ppl wats krakin
[20:57] <psyco> ntm just all hatin on dem bugs
[20:58] <janorcutt> damn baby kde 4 got a few
[20:58] <psyco> XD no shiz
[20:58] <Dragnslicer> Is it my imagination, or did the 8.04 -> 8.10 upgrade not add a grub entry for the new kernel?
[20:59] <janorcutt> dont know bout upgade i came from gentoo peeps
[20:59] <psyco> o-m-f-g
[20:59] <rien-ne-va-plus> does kdebluetooth4 work? it doesnt work for me. is there a patch?
[20:59] <psyco> SMB is wokgin again for me
[20:59] <janorcutt> wat
[21:00] <psyco> i've missed smb for sooo long  and its finally back XD
[21:00] <janorcutt> just transfered all my media with smb... omg so good
[21:02] <Dragnslicer> rien-ne-va-plus: the release notes say that Bluetooth doesn't work in Kubuntu 8.10 yet
[21:03] <janorcutt> probably have to revert ot an earlier vers of the bluetooth stack
[21:03] <janorcutt> also make sure its enabled in the kernel
[21:05] <rien-ne-va-plus> how can i install kdebluetooth3?
[21:05] <janorcutt> use apt-get install
[21:05] <jtechidna> rien-ne-va-plus: it's not a problem on kde's end
[21:05] <jtechidna> bluetooth broke it and kdebluetooth needs an update
[21:05] <jtechidna> since kdebluetooth for kde3 is broken it wouldn't work either
[21:06] <jtechidna> er, since kdebluetooth for kde3 is older
[21:06] <janorcutt> if the blurtooth works...
[21:07] <jtechidna> They updated the bluetooth stack, which broke kdebluetooth
[21:07] <jtechidna> the current kdebluetooth needs updated to cope with the changes
[21:07] <janorcutt> not sure my end
[21:08] <janorcutt> bluetooth worked last time i checked with 8.04
[21:08] <jtechidna> since kde3's kbluetooth is older than kde4's kbluetooth, there's no way it will work
[21:08] <tacosarecool> hello
[21:08] <janorcutt> y not, linux is so versitile, it can be made to work
[21:09] <tacosarecool> favro I just reinstalled the proprietary drivers it works fine now
[21:09] <tacosarecool> I'm pretty sure
[21:09] <tacosarecool> Anyway thanks for your time bye
[21:09] <Adam24_> I've got a question.
[21:10] <draik> OxDeadC0de: Your last xorg.conf did it.
[21:10] <OxDeadC0de> draik cool :), grats
[21:10] <janorcutt> yes adam
[21:10] <snikker> Adam24_: just ask the question
[21:10] <draik> OxDeadC0de: I know there's something else, but heck if I can remember right now. Oh well. Thanks for all the help. Much appreciated.
[21:11] <OxDeadC0de> draik: any time :) glad to be of service
[21:12] <Adam24_> is Kubuntu 8.10 a modified version of KDE 4.1.2 or does it have a vanilla kde4 desktop by default?
[21:12] <draik> I remember now. How do I get rid of the menu on the left side of Konqueror?
[21:12] <OxDeadC0de> it's modified a bit, at least I know the python bindings for plasma were backported for kubuntu
[21:13] <jtechidna> Adam24_: it has several patches from KDE 4.1.3, taskmanager tooltips, as well as a customly-config'd panel
[21:13] <sourcemaker> how can I remove old kde3 programms in intrepid... which are not more required after upgrade from gusty...
[21:13] <jtechidna> where arrangement of applets have been modified
[21:13] <sourcemaker> like kpdf
[21:13] <Adam24_> but on the outside it still has the KDE square logo in the bottom-right corner?
[21:14] <jtechidna> on the outside of what?
[21:14] <draik> sourcemaker: sudo apt-get autoremove should take care of that for you
[21:14] <sourcemaker> draik: no... does not work
[21:15] <jtechidna> Adam24_: do you mean the menu launcher button in the bottom left?
[21:15] <jtechidna> if so, yes, that is the KDE symbol
[21:15] <frinuxfr> hi
[21:15] <sourcemaker> draik: it does not take care for that
[21:15] <rien-ne-va-plus> how do i downgrade my kdebluetooth4 to version 3 to make it work?
[21:15] <janorcutt> it still kde baby
[21:15] <OxDeadC0de> draik dunno about that one sry
[21:15] <frinuxfr> it seems the upgrade to 8.10 has some problems :-(
[21:15] <jtechidna> rien-ne-va-plus: it's not a matter of downgrading kdebluetooth
[21:15] <jtechidna> you'll need to downgrade bluetooth itself
[21:15] <frinuxfr> kde lost all settings
[21:16] <rien-ne-va-plus> o.O
[21:16] <frinuxfr> and I've got no task bar
[21:16] <frinuxfr> I wonder how to fix that
[21:16] <OxDeadC0de> rien: you can either boot to an older kernel which has the old bluetooth stack, or you can find another program that's been updated for the new bluetooth stack already, or wait for kdebluetooth to be updated
[21:16] <rien-ne-va-plus> alright
[21:17] <Cheaterman_> Hi everyone.
[21:17] <rien-ne-va-plus> which kernel version had the old bluetooth stack?
[21:17] <Cheaterman_> I'm tryin to boot a 6.10 CD on a comp and it doesn't work atm, all seems well but I get dropped to a blackscreen with a nice white _ blinking;
[21:18] <draik> Was katapult removed in Ibex?
[21:18] <draik> !info katapult
[21:18] <coreymon77> i dont think 6.10 is still supported, is it?
[21:18] <Cheaterman_> What am I supposed to do ? (except downloading hh or II)
[21:18] <Cheaterman_> coreymon77, nope it's not anymore
[21:18] <Cheaterman_> But I can't wait and DL another ISO
[21:18] <coreymon77> upgrade
[21:18] <Cheaterman_> Too long, and internet too slow for this (hey, this iso is like 700mb !)
[21:19] <coreymon77> use the torrents
[21:19] <coreymon77> they are much faster
[21:19] <Cheaterman_> DL is at 60kbps max :s
[21:19] <OxDeadC0de> cheaterman_ order a free cd? (shipit.kubuntu.org)
[21:19] <OxDeadC0de> but that would take longer than to d/l the iso
[21:19] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[21:19] <Cheaterman_> OxDeadC0de, I'm supposed to repair a PC right now :p
[21:19] <nejode> frinuxfr: kde3.5 or 4.1?
[21:19] <Tetracomm> I just installed a program using make install and this is the error I get when I try to run it, help?: http://pastebin.com/d56a830e
[21:19] <Cheaterman_> OxDeadC0de, exactly
[21:19] <Cheaterman_> I only lack of time atm
[21:19] <coreymon77> we cant help you, 6.10 is no longer supported, and the bugs in it are fixed
[21:20] <Cheaterman_> Eeeerf
[21:20] <Cheaterman_> Okay
[21:20] <coreymon77> the torrents are fast
[21:20] <Cheaterman_> Never mind then :s
[21:20] <coreymon77> try the others
[21:20] <draik> Is there an alternative to katapult?
[21:20] <jtechidna> draik: krunner, it's installed by default
[21:21]  * janorcutt is listning to Turisas - One More on Amarok
[21:21] <chrisruls00> Is there a way to change the key-binding of krunner?
[21:21] <Dragnslicer> Is it just me, or is Konsole very broken in 8.10?
[21:21] <Cheaterman_> Even if I got no help, thanks ^^
[21:21] <Cheaterman_> (Was prepared to it)
[21:21] <Cheaterman_> Have a nice day everyone
[21:22] <sourcemaker> can I use the following command... to remove kde3 programms using kde4? sudo apt-get --purge remove kdelibs4c2a
[21:22] <chrisruls00> Konsole is fine for me, my main problem is my NVidia 96 series driver isn't working, and for some reason when I type random short black lines flash on the screen real fast.
[21:23] <draik> jtechidna: That is the run command, same as ALT+F2.  I guess it's the same thing.
[21:23] <Dragnslicer> chrisruls00: sounds like the issue I just had. Check what kernel you're booted into
[21:24] <chrisruls00> how do I check that?
[21:24] <karl> in 8.10, why is vim-tiny installed by default, and not vim?
[21:24] <OxDeadC0de> chrisruls00: uname -r
[21:25] <karl> It took me a while to figure out why :syntax on wasn't working
[21:25] <chrisruls00> 2.6.27-7-generic
[21:26] <Dragnslicer> chrisruls00: try running the hardware driver manager
[21:26] <pwnu> anybody here running dropbox?
[21:26] <Dragnslicer> KMenu -> System -> Hardware Drivers
[21:26] <chrisruls00> I've already tried.
[21:26] <chrisruls00> the ubuntu and nvidia website both state 96 series dosen't work
[21:27] <jtechidna> there's an update to the 96 series coming
[21:29] <NamShub> I do not have sound in any non-kde apps...
[21:29] <NamShub> anyone know what might cuase that?
[21:29] <chrisruls00> yeah, thats what I've heard. I tried installing the new beta, and It actually installed unlike the other virsions, but when I configure xorg.conf the xserver just gives me a screen with multi-colored vertical lines.
[21:30]  * draik is listening to City by Hollywood Undead on Swan Songs [Amarok]
[21:30] <hazzy> Call the church police!
[21:30] <draik> LOL
[21:31] <hazzy> Peter: Listen Lois, I know you're a feminist and I think that's adorable, but this is grown-up time and I'm the man.
[21:32] <hazzy> Sorry, having too much fun with Uberscript
[21:32] <howtoo> somebody else has problems with hda_intel sound in 8.10?
[21:32] <draik> Peter: You'd better watch who you're calling a child, Lois. Because if I'm a child, you know what that makes you? A Pedophile. And I'll be damned if I'm gonna be lectured by a pervert.
[21:38] <hazzy> Why Beer Is Better Than A Woman. - Beer labels come off without a fight.
[21:39] <hazzy> Er, oops
[21:39] <XenThraL> I keep getting a message
[21:39] <XenThraL> in KDE or gnome
[21:39] <XenThraL> "art error"
[21:39] <XenThraL> something about CPU usage
[21:42] <ten_> Hi
[21:42] <iPwnU> anybody here running dropbox?
[21:46] <slow-motion> n8
[21:48] <Dragnslicer> Has anyone figured out how to fix this stupid knotify/phonon crash?
[21:51] <mrunagi> does anyone know how to fix 'could not commit changes' errors when trying to upgrade?
[21:53] <psyco> !info azureus
[21:53] <mrunagi> !commit
[21:53] <mrunagi> can you upgrade from the live cd?
[21:58] <W8TAH> hi folks -- lookin or suggestions -- i use IRC extensively -- on a variety of servers -- ive messed with the following clients - -with the associated problems -- konversation -- problems with notificatins - disabling shuts off ALL notification on a chan not just sound, KVIRC -- fantastic  -but very unstable, Xchat --works but ugly and not real feature rich, MIRC - dear lord WHY? kopete -- per channel notification (sound) does not work - - im looking fo
[21:58] <W8TAH> r ideas / input etc - -anyone have suggestions?
[21:58] <tbr281> whats the correct sudo command line for firefox3?
[21:59] <ardchoille> tbr281: firefox doesn't work for your user?
[21:59] <ArkoldThos> W8TAH: here konversation is working very nice :D
[22:00] <W8TAH> konversation is great -- except for the notification problem -- if that could be fixed -- id be on it in an instant -- but wehn i turn off sound notifications on a chan, it also disables the color change on the tab/tree and i loose track of the convos in the chan
[22:00] <tbr281> ok then what about kde4?
[22:00] <ArkoldThos> :/
[22:01] <tbr281> last time i was given an incorrect line and it screwed up my machine
[22:02] <W8TAH> ArkoldThos, i appreciate the suggestion
[22:03] <tbr281> ardchoille: tried installing FF3 and it gave me a beta that mozilla is currently working on
[22:04] <trv> I upgraded my system from kubuntu hardy to intrepid with kde4, and in nautilus, .doc files are associated with wine for some odd reason. If i right click, go at 'open with' and choose open office writer, and remember this association, it opens correctly, but it forgets the file association, so next time it wants to open it with wine again!
[22:04] <ardchoille> tbr281: firefox is in the repos. why did you install it manually? Testing purposes?
[22:04] <trv> this does not happen in konqueror though
[22:04] <tbr281> ardchoille: i did install from repos
[22:05] <ardchoille> tbr281: Then it should run fine with your user. I don't mean to be a pain but what exactly is the problem?
[22:05] <tbr281> thats why i'm asking to see if i made a mistake when i sudo'ed it
[22:05] <ardchoille> tbr281: check to see if any files in your home are owned by root;  find ~ -user root
[22:06] <ardchoille> I'll bet there are some and root shouldn't own any of the files in your home.
[22:06] <tbr281> just forget about it, i'm gunna try installing it once i get kde4 on here
[22:07] <Dragnslicer> Well, this upgrade wasn't as painless as it should have been
[22:07] <ardchoille> ok. but I just wanted to tell you that firefox is one of the apps that you should never have to run as root
[22:07] <tbr281> right
[22:07] <Dragnslicer> And knotify/phonon crashing doesn't seem to be fixed
[22:08] <tbr281> can you give me the correct command line for kde4?
[22:08] <ardchoille> tbr281: to run firefox as the root user?
[22:09] <tbr281> no
[22:09] <tbr281> just want to get kde4 and then i'll figure out the rest
[22:09] <ardchoille> tbr281: I've never had an upgrade go well so I don't mess with them, but I can do this for you
[22:10] <ardchoille> !upgrade | tbr281
[22:11] <Neutrinux> Hi. I'm new in here. I just installed intrepid, and the only thing not working is printing : when i do in a term "lpr file.pdf" it perfectly works. But when I print the same file from a graphic app only a blank page comes out. Is it known?
[22:12] <tbr281> thnx
[22:12] <ardchoille> yw
[22:13] <Traveler1> I just updated to Kubuntu 8.10 and when  I try and start it up, it comes up with "starting kdm" and "starting kdm-kde4" " cannot start kdm-kde4 Not default display manager", then drops to command login prompt
[22:14] <Traveler1> I just updated to Kubuntu 8.10 and when  I try and start it up, it comes up with "starting kdm" and "starting kdm-kde4" " cannot start kdm-kde4 Not default display manager", then drops to command login prompt
[22:14] <Neutrinux> maybe a dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[22:14] <Traveler1> kz
[22:15] <Traveler1> brb
[22:15] <Traveler1> I'll go try
[22:15] <larsivi> wtf is firefox doing? it is constantly using 18% CPU and I don't even use it beyond having it open - my 7 konqueror windows use nothing
[22:21] <emiliano> buonasera a tutti
[22:21] <emiliano> come faccio ad installare firefox3 su kubuntu senza tirarmi dietro mezzo gnome?
[22:21] <Traveler1> Neutrinux, didn't work
[22:21] <Traveler1> I just updated to Kubuntu 8.10 and when  I try and start it up, it comes up with "starting kdm" and "starting kdm-kde4" " cannot start kdm-kde4 Not default display manager", then drops to command login prompt
[22:22] <Traveler1> I just updated to Kubuntu 8.10 and when  I try and start it up, it comes up with "starting kdm" and "starting kdm-kde4" " cannot start kdm-kde4 Not default display manager", then drops to command login prompt
[22:23] <ardchoille> emiliano: italiano? espanol?
[22:23] <Dragnslicer> Traveler1: sounds like the problem I had, which was the new kernel version not being added to the grub menu
[22:23] <emiliano> ardchoille: italiano
[22:23] <W8TAH> Traveler1, repeating will only get you yelled at by the ops
[22:23] <ardchoille> !it | emiliano
[22:23] <emiliano> ok
[22:23] <Traveler1> Dragonath, how'd you fix it?
[22:23] <Dragnslicer> Traveler1- what does uname -r say?
[22:23] <Traveler1> I don't know
[22:23] <Traveler1> I'm at my neighbors house
[22:23] <Traveler1> xD
[22:24] <ardchoille> hehe
[22:24] <Dragnslicer> I fixed it by adding the menu entry for the new kernel
[22:24] <Dragnslicer> The problem is a conflict between the updated nVidia drivers and the old kernel
[22:25] <Traveler1> Dragnslicer, can you tell me how to do that in PM
[22:25] <Traveler1> =)\
[22:26] <Dragnslicer> Copy and paste the entries for the old kernel, then change the numbers
[22:26] <ardchoille> Dragnslicer: actually that is related to Kubuntu so probably best in channel so others can learn
[22:26] <Dragnslicer> ardchoille- I wasn't going to answer his message anyway
[22:26] <ardchoille> ok
[22:26] <Dragnslicer> I've been on IRC long enough
[22:26] <ardchoille> :)
[22:27] <Dragnslicer> s/long enough/way too long/
[22:27] <Traveler1> Dragnslicer, can you give me step by step instructions
[22:27] <Traveler1> in here then
[22:27] <Traveler1> ><
[22:27] <Dragnslicer> Not unless you can follow them one at a time
[22:28] <Traveler1> crap ><
[22:28] <Traveler1> my computer is at my house
[22:28] <Traveler1> I'm at a friends house
[22:28] <Dragnslicer> I changed the driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf from nvidia to vesa to get a semi-usable desktop, then opened /boot/grub/menu.lst in kate, copied/pasted the sections for the old kernel, and changed the numbers to the new kernel version
[22:28] <Traveler1> because i only have one computer
[22:31] <Traveler1> how do you edit a file in command?
[22:31] <Dragnslicer> nano
[22:32] <Traveler1> ty
[22:38] <yoan> hello
[22:40] <draik_> I don't have any audio with my laptop install
[22:40] <draik_> It's a fresh install from the LiveCD
[22:41] <Dragnslicer> Is there any way to get knotify to use something other than phonon?
[22:42] <draik_> !info yakuake
[22:52] <jussi01> draik: do you have more than one audiointerface?
[22:52] <axel> Hello! Is there Katapult or something similar in KDE4?
[22:52] <marekt> jussi01 i have simmilar problem but on desktop
[22:53] <jussi01> draik: check in system settings ->sound -> and set the correct device priority
[22:53] <draik> jussi01: No, just one.
[22:53] <marekt> axel, try alt+f2
[22:53] <marekt> its called krunner
[22:54] <ardchoille> how do you change yakuake skins?
[22:54] <axel> marekt: Tanks. Is it the same as in KDE 3.5?
[22:54] <draik> ardchoille: Menu > Configure Yakuake
[22:55] <draik> ardchoille: Appearance section is what you want, specifically
[22:55] <draik> jussi01: I only have one device listed in all sections.
[22:55] <marekt> axel it is different, but works simmilar
[22:56] <ardchoille> draik: there is no Menu > Configure
[22:56] <jussi01> draik: and you have checked in alsamixer all the volumes are up? (hint: alsamixer in terminal)
[22:56] <draik> ardchoille: When you press the down arrow at the bottom right corner of Yakuake, it shows the menu. At the bottom of the list, Configure Yakuake
[22:56] <axel> marekt: Thanks for the hint. I'll try it later.
[22:57] <draik> jussi01: I'll check in terminal, but yes.
[22:57] <ardchoille> draik: ah, ok, didn't see that tiny button. Thanks :)
[22:57] <draik> ardchoille: :) NP, any time.
[22:58] <draik> jussi01: Everything is in the red levels with the exception of Line and 2 "3D Contrl"
[23:00] <draik> jussi01: Ok, now everything is at 100
[23:01] <jussi01> draik: lappy od desktop?
[23:01] <draik_> laptop
[23:01] <jussi01> soundcard?
[23:01] <draik_> Generic sound card from Intel; came with Dell
[23:02] <humpback> Hello all
[23:02] <humpback> I installed Kubuntu 8.10
[23:02] <jussi01> draik: give me the full listing from lspci?
[23:02] <KDesk> How can I add a favorite (a directory, folder) in the kickoff menu witch has spaces? It adds the spaces like this  "Folder%20Name""
[23:02] <humpback> is there a simple way to change to Ubuntu or di I need to do a full install?
[23:02] <Dragnslicer> humpback- you can install ubuntu-desktop
[23:02] <deftone> humpback: change from a different distro?
[23:02] <axel> Now I have a different question: I intend to by a new cell wich should easily synchronize with KDE4 (beside contacs, tasks, dates also data). Other desirable features would be: GPS-receiver, programmable (there should be the possibility to write programs for it), G3/UMTS, WLAN (g-standard), IR)
[23:03] <jussi01> humpback: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:03] <axel> Does anybody know a cell matching these requirements?
[23:03] <jussi01> axel: N96.
[23:03] <thedark_> how do I install a python app?
[23:03] <jussi01> thedark_: which one?
[23:03] <thedark_> gdick
[23:04] <thedark_> it is a Korean-English dictionary
[23:04] <humpback> deftone: kubunto 8.10 to ubunto 8.10
[23:04] <draik_> !pastebin
[23:04] <draik_> !medibuntu
[23:05] <deftone> hmmm....i would do a full install of ubuntu 8.10.....in my opinion kubuntu has some serious bugs if u try to just get rid of kde4
[23:05] <draik> jussi01: Sorry for the delay. Never setup a default browser with the laptop yet.
[23:05] <axel> jussi01: Thanks. That phone seems really cool!
[23:05] <jussi01> axel: only thing Im not _certain_ on is the contact sync...
[23:07] <jussi01> axel: its very similar to the n95, so google around a bit
[23:08]  * hazzy gives Nobody Windoze XP
[23:08] <axel> jussi01: Thanks for the hint. The synchronization is the condition sine qua non: no deal without that.
[23:08] <thedark_> I have a setup.py
[23:08]  * hazzy gives Nobody GOD
[23:08] <thedark_> I assume I do something with that?
[23:08] <jussi01> thedark_: are you familiar with terminal commands?
[23:09] <deftone> what's the easiest way to remove firefox?
[23:09] <jussi01> thedark_: if so, then change to the directory that file is in, and do: ./setup.py
[23:10] <emiliano> how can I install firefox 3 on kubuntu without installing the gnome dependencies?
[23:10] <axel> deftone: I'd try: sudo apt-get remove firefox && sudo apt-get autoremove
[23:10] <jussi01> deftone: sudo apt-get remove firefox
[23:10] <deftone> that will remove all the dependencies?
[23:10] <axel> deftone: the command after && is for cleaning the system from packages that are not needed any more.
[23:11] <axel> deftone: It should.
[23:11] <deftone> k got ya...thanks guys
[23:11] <ardchoille> axel:  sudo apt-get remove --auto-remove firefox
[23:12] <thedark_> its giving me an error saying I need an additional command or something
[23:12] <ardchoille> axel: the --auto-remove was added not too long ago
[23:12] <deftone> ok that was weird....it didn't remove it at all...lol
[23:12] <axel> ardchoille: I didn't know that so far. Thanks for the hint.
[23:13] <ardchoille> yw
[23:13] <jussi01> emiliano: sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends firefox
[23:14] <jussi01> emiliano: that should give you the basics only.
[23:14] <hazzy> #kubuntu achieved a max peak of 378 users by client09 on Sun Nov  2 16:00:34 2008.
[23:15] <emiliano> i'll try tnxs
[23:16]  * hazzy gives jussi01 Tintin's father Herge
[23:17] <Wicked> hello all. is there any kinda program running by default that caches file locations? i know of updatedb....but im wondering if there is any in kde.....
[23:18] <Atomic_UE> Using Ubuntu 8.10 I installed kubuntu-desktop. When I'm in KDE the kNetworkManager  applet doesn't connect to anything unless I connect via the original gnome nm-applet. the kNetworkManager see and lets me enter passwords/settings for wifi networks but it won't actually connect or even try to connect to anything
[23:19] <jeiworth> skype <IP_ADDRESS> does not show own webcam-image, i.e. it does until i receive the video signal from my counterpart, anyone know anything about this? or is my skype-config crud?
[23:21] <thedark_> here is the error I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/66486/
[23:22] <draik_> jussi01: Sorry for taking so long... http://paste.ubuntu.com/66487/
[23:26] <thedark_> anyone?
[23:26] <KDesk> I have deleted all window specific sizes but every time I open a program (kate, konsole, etc) the size is the same, the default. What can I do?
[23:26] <thedark_> I'm sure its a really simple problem...
[23:32] <benjamin_> does anyone know when openoffice will be rolled out to 8.04?
[23:33] <ardchoille> benjamin_: uhm OO.o ships with 8.04
[23:33] <coreymon77> benjamin_: it isnt in the repos yet?
[23:36] <draik> jussi01: Any luck with my lspci?
[23:38] <benjamin_> ardchoille: 2.4 does, yes, but i'm hoping for 3.0
[23:38] <ardchoille> benjamin_: Ah, ok
[23:38] <benjamin_> coreymon77: i was hoping adept_manager would update it for me...
[23:38] <draik> What is the purpose to showing the dashboard?
[23:39] <kevbuntu> hey everybody! this is my first visit to irc
[23:40] <coreymon77> kevbuntu: hi buddy, welcome!
[23:40] <kevbuntu> thank you!
[23:40] <kevbuntu> irc is really cool
[23:40] <kevbuntu> i like it
[23:41] <kevbuntu> can i connect to another channel in the same window? say linxforums.org?
[23:42] <Tann> Hello
[23:43] <deftone> what's the best terminal manager for ultimate ubuntu?
[23:47] <benjamin_> the version upgrade button doesn't appear in adept manager, is there another way to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10?
[23:47] <coreymon77> deftone: regular old terminal works perfectly fine
[23:47] <draik> !upgrade | benjamin_
[23:48] <draik> deftone: I like Yakuake. I have it in my ~/.kde/Autostart and it's just a button away
[23:49] <draik> kevbuntu: It's a window/tab per channel or server.
[23:50] <benjamin_> draik: any chance instructions exist for kde? I don't really know where the equivalent menus are at
[23:50] <draik> Same thing
[23:50] <draik> K Menu > System > ...
[23:50] <draik> It's all there
[23:50] <cn28h> How do I find the "restricted drivers manager" in Intrepid? I never bothered with them before, but with the compositing effects that are enabled now it's a little sluggish.. so I figured I'd see if proprietary drivers make any difference
[23:51] <draik> cn28h: K Menu > Application > System > Hardware Devices
[23:51] <draik> Sorry, Hardware Drivers
[23:52] <benjamin_> draik: in the "updates" tab in adept, there is no option for selecting "release upgrades"
[23:52] <cn28h> draik, it jut says that there are no proprietary drivers in use but doesn't give me an option to enable anything.. does that mean that none are available for my hardware?
[23:53] <draik> benjamin_: It's not in Adept
[23:53] <draik> cn28h: That may be the case or you don't have the restricted packages enabled/installed.
[23:53] <cn28h> ah
[23:53] <benjamin_> draik: then where else in kmenu > system should i look? there aren't all that many options in there
[23:54] <Nicho2> hi
[23:54] <draik> benjamin_: Hold up. Let me get the instructions from the site.
[23:55] <Nicho2> I tried to upgrade to kubuntu but now I only get a black screen when x11 should start up
[23:55] <Nicho2> the x server seems to be running though
[23:55] <Search4Lancer> hey all: I'm upgrading to Ibex, and it's stuck at 99% searching for obsolete software - but the reboot message came up and icon is in the bar -- shall I reboot now, or is it really still searching?
[23:55] <arrrghhh> so kde4 is kinda cool.  i miss some 3.5 stuff... but i'm hoping it'll get more configurable.  i'm wondering if anyone has experience setting up Xorg?  every dist-upgrade i've done it's been a hassle trying to get my separate X screens to work right.  i have twinview working now for one monitor, but the main monitor won't go to its max res.
[23:55] <draik> benjamin_: K Menu > System > Update Manager
[23:55] <draik> That is where it will all begin
[23:56] <Nicho2> even booting from the intrepid cd gives leads to a black screen on my system
[23:56] <benjamin_> draik: i don't have "Update Manager" I do have "Adept Manager", is that equivalent?
[23:56] <draik> No
[23:57] <arrrghhh> benjamin_, update-manager i believe is based on synaptic.  it's gtk at the least.
[23:57] <ardchoille> for anyone who wants to make a button to open yakuake, use this command: dcop yakuake DCOPInterface slotToggleState
[23:57] <arrrghhh> are you doing a dist-upgrade benjamin_ ?
[23:57] <benjamin_> found instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu
[23:58] <ardchoille> dcop rocks!
[23:58] <benjamin_> they're a bit different than the ubuntu ones, fyi
[23:58] <draik> ardchoille: A button?
[23:58] <kevbuntu> ok i got it. thanks man! how do I change my nickname??
[23:58] <draik> kevbuntu: use "/nick YourNewName"
[23:58] <ardchoille> draik: for any other means of opening besides the key
[23:59] <arrrghhh> benjamin_, best way i think is something like do-dist-upgrade or something like that.
[23:59] <draik> ardchoille: Gotcha. Side question, what's with DCOP and replacing ... I can't recall what it is now, but it replaced something.
[23:59] <kevbuntu> just right into the text line that i write my messages in??
[23:59] <ardchoille> draik: Hmm.. can't remember
[23:59] <arrrghhh> benjamin_, do-release-upgrade is the "best" way imho.