[06:18] <Minataku> You're also ignored, and as if you cared, I'm 22.
[06:19] <Panda200x> He can't hear you if he's ignored?
[06:19] <Panda200x> :P
[06:21] <coreymon77> Panda200x: wrong, he can hear you
[06:21] <Minataku> Heya, Daisuke_Ido
[06:21] <coreymon77> Panda200x: he just cant reply
[06:21] <Panda200x> My old IRC Client didn't do that
[06:21] <Panda200x> :p
[06:21] <Buy-Bye> Just curious -> who's not using kubuntu right now?
[06:22] <Minataku> Me
[06:23] <Panda200x> :P
[06:23] <Panda200x> :O You have the same CPU Speed as me
[06:24] <Buy-Bye> minataku> what are you using? please don't say windoh's
[06:24] <Minataku> Gentoo
[06:24] <Buy-Bye> ahhhh
[06:26] <ardchoille> Whoa, kwin-style-dekorator is cool
[06:27] <Minataku> [12:26:39]  -Minataku- VERSION xchat 2.6.8 Linux 2.6.20-Pyocola-i686 [i686/2.66GHz]
[06:27] <Buy-Bye> does anyone know if skype video can work on kubuntu?
[06:27] <Panda200x> Why would it not?
[06:27] <Minataku> Is there a Skype client for Linux with it?
[06:27] <Minataku> If not, try it in WINE
[06:27] <salmoran> hola
[06:27] <Minataku> If still no, then no
[06:27] <Panda200x> :P
[06:27] <Minataku> Hi, salmoran
[06:27] <Panda200x> And make sure your video camera works too.
[06:28] <Minataku> Or not
[06:28] <Minataku> They don't need to see you
[06:28] <Minataku> XD
[06:28] <Buy-Bye> skype client = yes - but video not officially supported as yet
[06:29] <coreymon77> officially being the key word
[06:29] <coreymon77> but since when did linux users really care about official support
[06:29] <Buy-Bye> exactly
[06:30] <Buy-Bye> just wondering if anyone else has solved this already
[06:30] <shao_lo> I have a crash in amarok that is caused by a bug in taglib http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114469  The amarok guys seem to think this will be broken forever/or until taglib is revved.  Is there anythign that can be done to move this along?
[06:30] <Buy-Bye> I will try wine though
[06:31] <coreymon77> Buy-Bye: try the linux client first
[06:31] <coreymon77> Buy-Bye: native is always better than wine if you can get the same results
[06:31] <Buy-Bye> i have
[06:31] <Buy-Bye> but video button missing
[06:32] <Buy-Bye> it's not the end of the world though
[06:34] <Buy-Bye> besides I try to stay away from wine and look for real linux solutions if at all possible...
[06:35] <super34> hi all
[06:35] <super34> can somebody tell me how to activate the invisible menues in konversation again?
[06:36] <super34> i mean i deactivated them accidently and i dont have any menues now
[06:36] <super34> how can i reactivate them now?
[06:36] <ardchoille> I must be one of those Linux zealots. I'll look for a Linux client.. if I can't find one, I won't use anything. Wine is off-limits, IMHO.
[06:36] <llutz> super34: ctrl-m
[06:36] <super34> thx
[06:36] <super34> ok next thing is
[06:37] <coreymon77> super34: alt+f3 will give you the menu
[06:37] <super34> did somebody got japanese input system working with openoffice?
[06:37] <super34> coreymon i was more looking for ctrl-m like llutz said but thx anyway
[06:38] <llutz> alt-f3 = kde window-menu
[06:38] <Buy-Bye> ardchoille: I agree, I don't want to be pulled into the M$ world - It took me long enough to throw off those shackes!
[06:38] <ardchoille> Buy-Bye: Indeed
[06:38] <super34> or does anybody know where i can ask about it?
[06:39] <super34> is there any irc channel where i can ask about japanese input system with openoffice
[06:39] <super34> maybe an openoffice channel (irc)
[06:39] <ardchoille> super34: You might go to openoffice.org and see if they list an official irc channel, or maybe join one of their mailing lists.
[06:39] <Minataku> Hm
[06:39] <Minataku> !japanese
[06:39] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp
[06:39] <Minataku> <.<
[06:39] <Minataku> !ime
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <Minataku> Bah, this thing is so useless
[06:40] <Minataku> I know there are Japanese Input Systems for Linux
[06:40] <Minataku> I just can't recall any of them nor do I know if Kubuntu has any
[06:40] <proog> when i select "configure" in kopete, the program freezes
[06:41] <super34> i know it has any
[06:41] <Minataku> proog: Then don't do that
[06:41] <Minataku> j/k
[06:41] <super34> for example anthy
[06:41] <Minataku> proog: Let it sit for a minute
[06:41] <super34> just i cant get it working with openoffice
[06:41] <rohan> in the musicbrainz supplied by kubuntu, it's not possible to look up info for mp3 files - how do i remedy that ?
[06:41] <Minataku> super34: Ah
[06:41] <Minataku> super34: There might be a channel for it here
[06:41] <andersin> does someone in here know how to get mute to work with multimedia keys
[06:41] <Minataku> Have you tried #openoffice ?
[06:43] <llutz> andersin: assign the symbol "XF86AudioMute" to that key
[06:43] <llutz> andersin: use xmodmap
[06:43] <andersin> liutz: it is already. xev reports it, it just does not mute
[06:44] <andersin> llutz: it is already. xev reports it, it just does not mute
[06:44] <super34> thx im asking there nnow
[06:44] <Minataku> np
[06:44] <proog> Minataku: kopete still freezes
[06:45] <Minataku> proog: Launch it from a terminal, then let it freeze again
[06:45] <Minataku> Check the terminal for any errors after that
[06:45] <jruppal> my audio is not working, and i have no idea why. I'm new to kubuntu, and i'm running the Mobile Intel 945GM Express Chipset on a toshiba laptop. Does anyone have any ideas?
[06:45] <rohan> jruppal: have you checked the volume controls ?
[06:45] <jruppal> lol...yes
[06:46] <Minataku> All of them?
[06:46] <rohan> Minataku++
[06:46] <Minataku> I know on mine the card resets all the mixer values to 0
[06:46] <jruppal> how many are there? lol
[06:46] <Minataku> I have to set them back after I reboot
[06:46] <rohan> jruppal: on my card i need to set surround to maximum, and center and front too
[06:46] <Minataku> Two important ones
[06:46] <Minataku> Main and PCM
[06:46] <rohan> only then it works
[06:46] <Minataku> At least those are the two on mine
[06:47] <proog> Minataku: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24869/
[06:47] <Minataku> proog: Okay, those are useless
[06:47] <Minataku> I dunno what's wrong.
[06:47] <andersin> Could it be possible that the XF86AudioMute symbol is caught by something else before it can be processed to mute
[06:47] <Minataku> Try reinstalling it
[06:47] <jruppal> both main and PCM are up
[06:47] <proog> ok
[06:48] <jruppal> how do i check if ALSA is working properly?
[06:48] <jarn> Is there a desktop recording program with low enough processor usage that it can be used to record while a game is running?
[06:48] <Minataku> jruppal: Check there are no stupid KDE things in the way
[06:48] <jruppal> like what?
[06:48] <Minataku> artsd, esd, any kinda junk like that
[06:48] <llutz> jarn: recordmydesktop
[06:49] <jarn> llutz: I tried recordmydesktop, but things moved too slow.
[06:49] <proog> Minataku: if i remove kopete, it takes kubuntu-desktop with it
[06:49] <ardchoille> jarn: The only one I know if is istanbul, not sure how much resources it uses, tho.
[06:49] <Minataku> Beautiful.
[06:49] <llutz> jarn:  unfree "wink", but i don't think it will be faster
[06:49] <Minataku> proog: I dunno what to do for ya now, hang around
[06:49] <Minataku> Someone else may have an idea
[06:49] <proog> ok
[06:49] <ardchoille> proog: kubuntu-desktop is only a met package, it's safe to remove.
[06:49] <jruppal> Minataku: do you want me to kill those processes or something?
[06:49] <Minataku> When I come up against dumbass dependencies like that I give up
[06:50] <jarn> llutz: Thanks, I'll check it out anyway.
[06:50] <jarn> ardchoille: Thanks, I'll check it out.
[06:50] <Minataku> jruppal: No, check their settings
[06:50] <luca> XVampireX done with the drivers :)
[06:50] <llutz> jarn: wink.com iirc
[06:50] <luca> however, Oblivion STILL refuses to start
[06:50] <jruppal> Minataku: where at
[06:50] <Minataku> Make sure their volume settings are up as well
[06:50] <Minataku> jruppal: I don't know, I don't use KDE
[06:50] <jruppal> dammit
[06:50] <jruppal> ok
[06:50] <Minataku> There's probably an icon in the tray
[06:50] <Minataku> Kinda like there was in Windows
[06:51] <Minataku> That'll probably be whatever stupid audio middleman KDE is using
[06:51] <coreymon77> Minataku: :O we dont mention that name in this channel
[06:51] <jruppal> brb
[06:52] <ardchoille> I hate this keyboard, it prints what I typed instead of what I meant, lol  <sigh>
[06:52] <XVampireX> luca: What did you do?
[06:52] <XVampireX> luca: Maybe wine updated didn't work?
[06:53] <XVampireX> update^
[06:54] <luca> XVampireX: wine functions quite well...
[06:54] <madman91> hello all
[06:54] <jruppal> Minataku: my friend says that KMix should handle all of the audio levels....what else could be causing no sound?
[06:54] <madman91> I just switched to kubuntu from ubuntu ... now my amarok wont boot up
[06:54] <luca> in any case I hava also tried to downgrade it to no avail
[06:55] <aspcic> Hi
[06:55] <XVampireX> Yeah but maybe the update itself.. had a patch that made it not work
[06:55] <aspcic> someone can try to connect to my ftp server to see if works?
[06:55] <luca> uhm I cleared the .wine directory before downgrading or upgrading?
[06:55] <aspcic> ftp://sercik.homelinux.net:65001
[06:56] <madman91> where in KDE do I setup auto-launch programs?
[06:56] <coreymon77> madman91: ~/.kde/Autostart
[06:56] <jruppal> does anyone else in this channel who uses KDE have any idea why my sound isn't working.....i have a Mobile Intel 945GM Express Chipset and am running fiesty.
[06:57] <strabes> madman91: just drag entries from the kde menu into ~/.kde/Autostart
[06:57] <madman91> coreymon77: thanks
[06:57] <sercik> hi
[06:58] <sercik> someone can try please ftp://sercik.homelinux.net:65001
[06:59] <jruppal> sercik: it didn;t work
[06:59] <sercik> thanks
[06:59] <jruppal> yup
[06:59] <sercik> can you telle me error?
[07:00] <jruppal> one sec
[07:00] <madman91> is there anyway I can make my main panel beautiful .. if it could be like gnome, but I could still use kde, that would be great
[07:00] <madman91> can i use gnome-panels in kde?
[07:00] <madman91> omg i can
[07:00] <madman91> omfg
[07:00] <jruppal> sercik:
[07:00] <jruppal> An error occurred while loading ftp://sercik.homelinux.net:65001/:
[07:00] <jruppal> Could not connect to host sercik.homelinux.net.
[07:01] <madman91> how can i close my main panel in kde?
[07:01] <sercik> ok but do you use a browser?
[07:01] <jruppal> yeah, konquerer
[07:02] <madman91> when I choose gnome as my Icon theme it makes everything in kde look like a piece of paper..
[07:02] <madman91> how can i change that
[07:02] <jruppal> don't try to use a gmome theme for KDE
[07:03] <madman91> jruppal: why not?
[07:03] <jruppal> madman91: because gnome is ugly
[07:03] <jruppal> madman91: www.kde-look.org
[07:03] <madman91> jruppal: i like its theme.. i want to use it
[07:04] <strabes> madman91: you can't use a gnome icon theme in kde because the filenames and locations for the icons are different
[07:04] <jruppal> madman91: i really can't be of much help. I've never used gnome, and i'm not exactly a linux veteran
[07:04] <strabes> madman91: maybe you can search on kde-look for "human" kde icons but I don't see why anyone would do that
[07:04] <madman91> strabes: i see..
[07:04] <madman91> strabes: so its hopeless.. or atleast too much of a hassle
[07:04] <strabes> what's wrongwith the default kubuntu feisty look? IMO it's really great
[07:05] <strabes> i didn't change a thing
[07:05] <jruppal> i changed to plastik
[07:05] <madman91> what about gnome panels.. can i use those?
[07:05] <madman91> ditch kde's main panel
[07:06] <strabes> you changed from polyester to plastik?
[07:06] <jruppal> yes
[07:06] <strabes> madman91: again, why? kde's kicker is so much better than gnome-panel
[07:06] <madman91> strabes: but its ugly..
[07:06] <jruppal> no it's not...
[07:06] <madman91> strabes: my gnome panel was so streamlined
[07:06] <madman91> so perfect
[07:06] <strabes> are you kidding?
[07:06] <jruppal> if you l;ove gnome so much, install it
[07:06] <madman91> i knew someone would say that
[07:06] <strabes> everything in KDE is so much more powerful and customizable than in gnome
[07:06] <jruppal> well, it's true
[07:06] <madman91> i just want the gnome panel and gnome theme
[07:06] <madman91> and the rest kde
[07:07] <dazjorz> ...?
[07:07] <Minataku> Mixing like that doesn't work
[07:07] <madman91> why not
[07:07] <jruppal> because it doesn't.
[07:07] <dazjorz> madman91: the gnome panel and theme...
[07:07] <madman91> i am running gnome panel right now.. its a little disfigured but it works
[07:07] <dazjorz> and the rest kde?
[07:07] <strabes> i dunno, try installing gnome-panel and then running it i dunno
[07:07] <dazjorz> madman91: how many rest is there?
[07:07] <madman91> dazjorz: just kde in general.. i like kde's handling of things
[07:07] <elbing> is there anyway to toggle fn to wifi in a non toshiba laptop?
[07:07] <madman91> dazjorz: its kcontrol and so on
[07:08] <madman91> how it actually has stuff in it.. gnome is a shell
[07:08] <dazjorz> madman91: well, the problem is, applications that use kdelibs read KDE's settings, not Gnomes' settings
[07:08] <madman91> ok .. for example.. in my gnome-panel .. the icons were right next to eachother
[07:08] <madman91> in kicker, the icons are so far apart its ridiculous
[07:08] <madman91> and they have taken up a "fat" apperance
[07:08] <jruppal> which icons?
[07:09] <madman91> launching icons from the kde menu
[07:09] <jruppal> o_O
[07:09] <madman91> i went through the kde K thing.. right clicked --> add to panel
[07:10] <jruppal> what version of kubuntu are you running? bacause mine aren't fat, and they are very close together
[07:10] <strabes> madman91: just use the quick launcher applet
[07:10] <strabes> madman91: and then in its options check "preserve space"
[07:10] <jruppal> or alt-space for katapult
[07:11] <strabes> conserve space
[07:11] <jruppal> screw icons :p
[07:12] <madman91> stupid quick launcher
[07:12] <main2> can i change 'power settings' on a desktop? (like i have on a laptop.. )
[07:12] <madman91> wont let me change the size of the icons
[07:12] <jruppal> **so no one in here has any idea as to why my audio isn't working? All of the levels are up, and as far as i can tell, the ddrivers are installed.
[07:12] <main2> i would like to use my powerbutton to suspend.. :)
[07:13] <main2> jruppal, go #ALSA
[07:14] <jruppal> is there an alsa channel on this server?
[07:14] <main2> duh, just told you
[07:14] <madman91> ok
[07:14] <jruppal> ok
[07:14] <madman91> quick launcher brings them closer
[07:14] <madman91> but its still a little fatter than gnome.. no biggy
[07:14] <madman91> next problemo
[07:15] <madman91> where can i find a weather applet for kicker?
[07:15] <strabes> forecastfox...
[07:15] <madman91> isnt that for firefox
[07:15] <strabes> yeah
[07:15] <main2> can i suspend my desktop using my pc's powerbutton some how?
[07:15] <madman91> i want it in kicker
[07:16] <madman91> stupid gnome has a weather applet
[07:17] <madman91> it is kweather
[07:17] <madman91> in the repos :)
[07:17] <jruppal> madman91: use gnome...lol
[07:18] <madman91> jruppal: dont be lame
[07:18] <Bsims> I can get amarok with xine engine to listen to real streams but once the buffer is gone it stops playing ie it isn't continually downloading it any ideas
[07:19] <sercik> install realplay for linux
[07:19] <Bsims> Not the same, I want long term bookmarks and vastly prefer amarok
[07:19] <madman91> brb g2g i will return
[07:19] <jruppal> wait
[07:20] <jruppal> madman91: have you tried right clicking the taskbar and selecting "add applet"?
[07:21] <Bsims> I have compiled it with helix engine and it works but is unstable
[07:22] <sercik> mplayer works on realplayer with w32codecs
[07:22] <sercik> on my pc
[07:22] <sercik> try kmplayer and use mplayer engine
[07:23] <Bsims> As does mine, the thing is I have added BBC radio feeds to my collection in amarok, it works but ends after the buffer is empty
[07:24] <gan|y|med> is there a non-free rep for ubuntu??
[07:24] <XVampireX> NO
[07:25] <XVampireX> !freedom
[07:25] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[07:25] <defection> what did i just join and how did i do it?
[07:26] <gan|y|med> even debian has a non-free repo
[07:26] <_BigMac> Hey can someone tell me how to download these packages: Qt 3.3.x, QtSQL with QSQLITE plugin, CMake >=2.4.3
[07:26] <main2> _BigMac, use adept
[07:26] <_BigMac> they are all in adept?
[07:26] <main2> search for them, and install them
[07:27] <main2> who knows
[07:27] <main2> you might need to dload / compile some of them yourself if its not the case
[07:27] <defection> I'm completely new at Ubuntu, first time outside Windows XP and got Ub. this morning
[07:27] <main2> but if you wonder how to install them
[07:27] <main2> ur doing something wrong maybe, you're not trying to install software from the repository trough adept dont you?
[07:28] <defection> any possibility of getting Trillian on Ubuntu
[07:28] <_BigMac> main2: None show up
[07:28] <pag> !compiling | _BigMac
[07:28] <ubotu> _BigMac: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:29] <NickPresta> @Defection: Check out Pidgin. It is similar to Trillian
[07:29] <main2> _BigMac, what are you trying to install?
[07:29] <_BigMac> pag: I already know how to compile...
[07:29] <_BigMac> main2:Qt 3.3.x, QtSQL with QSQLITE plugin, CMake >=2.4.3
[07:30] <_BigMac> QT shows but none of which seem right
[07:30] <pag> _BigMac, you should at least have build-essentials installed. I guess you'll also need libqt-dev or something like that
[07:31] <main2> _BigDude
[07:31] <main2> you're not answering my question
[07:31] <_BigMac> main2: what question?
[07:31] <main2> those are seperate packages... for what application/program do you want to use those?
[07:31] <_BigMac> pag: I have build essential
[07:31] <_BigMac> main2: for kamefu
[07:32] <_BigMac> main2: and they are seperate, hence the commas
[07:32] <main2> lmfao..
[07:32] <main2> dude.. you'll need to compile and install them by hand
[07:32] <pag> !info kamefu
[07:32] <main2> you said you already know how to do that
[07:32] <main2> so what is your remaining question?
[07:32] <_BigMac> I do, I need the package names
[07:32] <_BigMac> that is what I am asking
[07:32] <ubotu> kamefu: KDE All Machine Emulator Frontend for Unix - binary files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 78 kB, installed size 296 kB
[07:33] <main2> _BigMac, you're talking *******
[07:33] <main2> if you know how to compile stuff, you know how to grab packages for those "Qt 3.3.x, QtSQL with QSQLITE plugin, CMake >=2.4.3" things you named
[07:33] <_BigMac> ******?
[07:34] <main2> exactly ;)
[07:34] <_BigMac> Did it ever occur to you that their is more then one use for compiling?
[07:34] <main2> what the hell are you talking about
[07:34] <_BigMac> I just migrated from windows, but I have compiling C there for years
[07:35] <pag> _BigMac, enable universe and install kamefu from there. If you still want to compile it for yourself, you should command "sudo apt-get build-dep kamefu" it'll install all depensies you need
[07:35] <main2> dude, then stfu.. you say that you know how to compile stuff in a linux channel
[07:35] <main2> now starting ... forget it > i wont respond to you anymore (time wasting)
[07:35] <pag> !universe | _BigMac
[07:35] <ubotu> _BigMac: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections.  I just told you I can compile code, I didn't know he was linking me to compiling for linux
[07:38] <XVampireX> !language
[07:38] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:38] <main2> hello .. this is #freenode ... opensource .. we're talking Linux here
[07:39] <main2> not windows.. and now stop talking to me, i dont have time for you
[07:39] <_BigMac> ....Um, I believe there is several thousand channels on freenode, <100 of which are dedicated to ubuntu
[07:39] <_BigMac> ok then stop responding simple as that
[07:40] <Jucato> calm down both of you
[07:40] <main2> Jucato, there's no need to tell me to calmdown, if people disrespect me
[07:40] <main2> the should think i will show respect
[07:40] <_BigMac> Jucato: I disrespected you because you didn't know a word?
[07:40] <main2> shouldnt
[07:41] <main2> _BigMac, good luck.
[07:41] <_BigMac> main2: Ok
[07:41] <Jucato> _BigMac, main2: I'm telling both of you to stop it. if you don't want to calm down, please take your fight elsewhere.
[07:41] <Jucato> !irc
[07:41] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[07:41] <Jucato> er..
[07:42] <Jucato> !guidelines
[07:42] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:42] <main2> Jucato, no need to go on...
[07:42] <_BigMac> Jucato: Ok
[07:44] <main2> Where do i find 'Powermanagement' settings on Kubuntu?
[07:44] <AgentZer0> sammiches flying everywhere lol
[07:44] <main2> (im not using a laptop)
[07:47] <pag> main2, you can configure those settings via kpowersave if I recall correctly..
[07:47] <main2> adept doesnt know 'kpower..'
[07:47] <main2> is it part of KDE?
[07:48] <pag> !info kpowersave
[07:48] <ubotu> kpowersave: HAL based power management applet for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.2-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3271 kB, installed size 5080 kB
[07:48] <jarn> I created an executable that runs another command, only if I try to run the executable from the Run Command dialog it opens up a shell and runs it in there so I can only run it from the command line. Is there a way to make it so it can be run through Run Command?
[07:49] <marccollin> hi somebody can take a snapshot of the default gui package manager ?
[07:50] <main2> thanks pag, show 'not installed' package was marked off
[07:50] <main2> adept was still open, because i was looking for installed stuff....................
[07:50] <main2> but i got it now :)
[07:51] <main2> rb
[07:52] <marccollin> because kpowersave is most usefull when you have a laptop
[07:52] <zipper> where and how do i install new themes for kde on kubuntu?
[07:52] <Jucato> !changethemes | zipper
[07:52] <ubotu> zipper: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[07:52] <zipper> ah, cheers
[07:54] <zipper> How do i make mozilla firefox default for handling urls instead of konquerer?
[07:54] <ubunturos> zipper: open Firefox
[07:54] <ubunturos> zipper: go to edit-> Preferences
[07:55] <llutz> zipper: use kcontrol
[07:55] <ubunturos> zipper: go to System Defaults section
[07:55] <NickPresta> zipper, In System Settings (in kcontrol), to go Default Section > Web Browser
[07:55] <ubunturos> zipper:  and check (tick) the Check Now
[07:55] <NickPresta> Default Applications*
[07:55] <hunfa> hii everyone
[07:56] <ubunturos> NickPresta: I can't find anything such as Defa .... in System Settings
[07:57] <NickPresta> ubunturos, in System Settings, under the Personal heading, there should be "Default Applications"
[07:57] <ubunturos> NickPresta: in 7.04 ?
[07:57] <ardchoille> NickPresta: Are you using gnome?
[07:57] <NickPresta> Yes, in Kubuntu FF
[07:58] <NickPresta> and no, ardchoille, I'm using KDE
[07:58] <hunfa> what is the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[07:58] <llutz> hunfa: ubuntu uses gnome
[07:58] <hunfa> thats all?
[07:58] <ardchoille> NickPresta: Ah, ok, I see what you're saying. That system settings thing is dumb, it just uses sections that are already in kcontrol.
[07:59] <zipper> thanks
[07:59] <ubunturos> hunfa: and most apps on Kubuntu are KDE apps
[07:59] <hunfa> ok, thanks
[08:00] <ardchoille> Looks like someone attempted to re-invent the wheel.
[08:01] <zipper> ubunturos: doing that doesnt seem to work. Nothing happends when i click the "check now" button
[08:01] <zipper> NickPresta: cant seem to find the place where it is
[08:01] <ubunturos> zipper: yes, seems to be a bug
[08:01] <ubunturos> zipper: however, konqueror does provide you an option to open a page in Firefox
[08:02] <NickPresta> @zipper: This is how I am doing it. In a terminal, type "systemsettings". The System Settings window should appear. Under the Personal heading, there should be an icon that says "Default Applications". Click it. In that section, click on Web Browser
[08:03] <zipper> NickPresta: ahh, found it. Thanks
[08:05] <DJServers> yo
[08:09] <AcE13> I am having troubles with nvidia drivers... I'hv used envy and install nvidia drivers.. it all went good. but when I startx the X crashes telling me that theres no nvidia module...
[08:09] <AcE13> I'hv edited out xorg.conf to module "nv" to start my X
[08:13] <AgentZer0> all I'd like to say is THANKS , love my kubuntu fiesty, didn't realize how nice it was on the deb side, hope I never see another rpm! Kubuntu + Beryl + Vmware(headless) + rdesktop = seamless kubuntu/xp ... makes my buddies excuse themselves to go change their Depends!  w00T!
[08:14] <AcE13> I wanna try beryl :-/
[08:14] <AgentZer0> AcE13,  you should change "nv" to "nvidia"
[08:14] <AcE13> AgentZer0: did that... it fails giving me error that module nvidia couldnt load
[08:14] <AcE13> or failed to load... something like that
[08:14] <AgentZer0> then logout, alt-ctrl-bkspce to restartX .... should see the nvidia splash screen
[08:15] <AcE13> AgentZer0: that crashes me to consol
[08:15] <AcE13> *console
[08:15] <AcE13> X fails to start giving error about nvidia module
[08:16] <AgentZer0> hmm
[08:16] <AcE13> lemme try modprobe
[08:18] <ph8> hey all - iwas just watching a movie in xine and my sound has started repeating a short loop - a sort of 'jitter/cycle'
[08:19] <ph8> now whenever i try to play sound anywhere e.g. amarok
[08:19] <ph8> it does it again
[08:19] <ph8> is there a way to reset the sound system/drivers?
[08:20] <SeanTater> I have 2 GB of memory on a 32 bit machine.. But I have never seen even the disk cache go above about a GB. Is it not capable of addressing it or something?
[08:21] <zach> ph8: System Settings -> Sounds & Multimedia, I *think*
[08:22] <Jabapyth> does anyone know of a Palm emulator for Linux?
[08:22] <llutz> SeanTater: if cache is too big, it will slow the system. administering that cache costs cpu.load
[08:22] <ph8> Zach: -> Sound system  - cheers
[08:22] <zach> No problem. I never use the default System Settings module anymore. KControl all the way. :-)
[08:23] <ph8> yeh me 2 most of the time
[08:23] <zipper> Seems like i managed to mess up the appearence of my clock + firefox when trying out different themes. Any way to get them back to default?
[08:23] <ph8> is kcontrol newer then? I thought it was legacy but more functional
[08:23] <zach> The latter, I think
[08:23] <AcE13> AgentZer0: failed to load module nvidia
[08:23] <zach> Err, well... Does legacy = deprecated?
[08:23] <AgentZer0> AcE13, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851 <<< I used that
[08:23] <ph8> AcE13: Trying to get your nvidia drivers working?
[08:24] <ph8> zach: hopefully not
[08:24] <AcE13> ph8: yeah man... with little success
[08:24] <AcE13> ph8: installed nvidia drivers using envy
[08:24] <zach> Heh, ok. Still learning some of the lingo.
[08:26] <vince_> Anybody know a tutorial on upgrading Kubuntu Edgy to Feisty?
[08:26] <DJServers> !teamspeak
[08:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about teamspeak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:26] <DJServers> !TS
[08:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:26] <SeanTater> llutz: okay
[08:26] <DJServers> a damn
[08:26] <ph8> AcE13: Envy worked nicely for me
[08:26] <ph8> what card?
[08:26] <Admiral_Chicago> !update
[08:26] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[08:26] <Admiral_Chicago> vince_: ^^
[08:27] <DJServers> i have: Kubuntu v7.04
[08:27] <Admiral_Chicago> AcE13: be aware that just because it works for someone does not mean it will work for anohter
[08:27] <DJServers> o no
[08:27] <Admiral_Chicago> !worksforme
[08:27] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:27] <DJServers> Kubuntu v7.04 desktop i386
[08:28] <XVampireX> Admiral_Chicago: You know what's funny, people think Windows works for them ;)
[08:28] <DJServers> lol
[08:28] <DJServers> good one :P
[08:28] <AcE13> ph8: gforce 6200... envy seems to have detected it and install went fine
[08:28] <zipper> XVampireX: heh... dont be a zealot, windows is fine for most people
[08:28] <XVampireX> zipper: Not as far as I seen ;)
[08:28] <ph8> i have a suspicion i had to completely clean + uninstall then install a couple of times before i got mine working
[08:29] <AcE13> ph8: did that
[08:29] <DJServers> its only fine because you get it whit many pc's so people dont now that there is something better
[08:29] <AcE13> lol
[08:29] <zipper> XVampireX: so you havent seen a single gamer? ever?!
[08:29] <Darkrift2> anyone know about reading adobe protected pdf's in linux?
[08:29] <Darkrift2> or cracking it so it can be read on anything?
[08:29] <AgentZer0> hellz, at least if it's broken on the *nix side, you have a chance of fixing it,  not so with windoze
[08:30] <XVampireX> zipper: Lets go to a different channel, and yes, I've seen, I've seen alot of gamers... and they still are delusional about "works for me"
[08:30] <AcE13> modprobe nvidia  FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory
[08:30] <zipper> XVampireX: linux isn't exactly better for the computer illiterates. It may be great for you and me, but believe it or not, not all people are geeks. Some just want their PC to "work"
[08:30] <DJServers> someone nows the game: War rock ?
[08:30] <DJServers> www.warrock.net
[08:30] <DJServers> ??
[08:30] <XVampireX> zipper: I didn't know Windows makes things just work... after all the hunting for drivers, after all the crashes, after all the viruses ;)
[08:30] <zipper> XVampireX: well... windows is better for games than linux, hands down. It may be due to support, but that's not really important for the gamer.
[08:31] <DJServers> yeah
[08:31] <zipper> crashes and virus is accepted by the general public, as long as they dont have to do techie stuff
[08:31] <Darkrift2> the only reason windows is better
[08:31] <Darkrift2> is support
[08:31] <AgentZer0> cofcofcof
[08:31] <DJServers> ...
[08:31] <zipper> but thats not really important in this discussion
[08:31] <AcE13> local support by your cousin, he means
[08:31] <Darkrift2> prob not
[08:31] <DJServers> is it a discussion ? :P
[08:32] <AcE13> which usually means a format/reinstallation
[08:32] <XVampireX> zipper: That's exactly the thing I'm talking about, DELUSIONAL about "works for me"
[08:32] <zipper> DJServers: random mumblings more or less :P
[08:32] <Darkrift2> i take it nobody has a reply to my pdf problem :(
[08:32] <sybux> I've got some problems with beryl. Shall I post my question here or is there a special chan ?
[08:33] <XVampireX> sybux: #beryl
[08:33] <sybux> tyx
[08:33] <XVampireX> Darkrift2: kpdf should be able to read the protected PDFs
[08:33] <AcE13> Darkrift2: openoffice?
[08:33] <zipper> XVampireX: I disagree. They want something they dont have to tinker with every now and then. Something that plays their games, and let them browse the web. Windows is pretty good at that (but sucks when it comes to security, choices, ect).
[08:33] <Darkrift2> cause i dont wanna buy it if i cant read it
[08:34] <zipper> so for them... windows "works"
[08:34] <XVampireX> zipper: Then you don't get the point of Linux
[08:34] <Darkrift2> so are we sure it will XVampireX?
[08:34] <XVampireX> Darkrift2: It has an option "ignore drm" or something like that
[08:34] <XVampireX> if that fails, get the adobe software, it has a linux version.
[08:34] <Darkrift2> really
[08:34] <zipper> XVampireX: perhaps not. And perhaps you should stop being a zealot, and realize that there are different OS's for different people.
[08:34] <Darkrift2> i couldnt find linux ver
[08:34] <Darkrift2> but i like the ignore drm
[08:35] <XVampireX> zipper: Uhm, I'm not a zealot, just knowing what I'm saying ;)
[08:35] <zipper> XVampireX: since you haven't used a single fact, but only expressing your oppinions, yeah, i sure hope you know what you're saying.
[08:35] <zipper> otherwise i would be tempted to call you a skizo
[08:35] <XVampireX> When things work on linux, they work out of the box, no need to look for drivers, really. And as for the proprietary drivers (nvidia) you just need two commands, and it works.
[08:35] <slow-motion> hallo
[08:36] <XVampireX> zipper: Not my opinion, just facts.
[08:36] <zipper> XVampireX: What facts?! You're just rambling on and on.
[08:36] <zipper> XVampireX: why should the random CS gamer switch to linux, when he only uses his PC for CS?
[08:36] <XVampireX> think for a moment, and you'll see the light.
[08:37] <zipper> lol
[08:37] <zipper> you're a waste of time
[08:37] <XVampireX> Well because I get better latencies with Linux ;)
[08:37] <zipper> when you get older and more experienced, you'll see its pointless to be a zealot.
[08:37] <XVampireX> and FPS
[08:37] <zipper> uhm, no. You dont get better ping with linux.
[08:38] <XVampireX> yup, I do.
[08:38] <zipper> =D
[08:38] <AcE13> XVampireX: hah right! *about the nvidia bit*
[08:38] <XVampireX> It has been proved
[08:38] <AcE13> struggling with that right now
[08:38] <XVampireX> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new and sudo nvidia-xconfig
[08:38] <XVampireX> what else do you need?
[08:38] <zipper> if you had any idea about how the internet worked, you would know how wrong you are.  No offence though.
[08:38] <XVampireX> It works for everyone
[08:39] <AcE13> XVampireX: X crashes... saying it failed to load nvidia drivers
[08:39] <AcE13> sorry,,, module
[08:39] <XVampireX> mismatched modules
[08:39] <XVampireX> right?
[08:39] <zipper> XVampireX: yes yes... you're a zealot, we all know. No need to keep telling us.
[08:39] <AcE13> XVampireX: also tryed envy...
[08:40] <XVampireX> Of course, and that's exactly the problem
[08:40] <AcE13> it is?
[08:40] <Darkrift2> XVampireX, i know ur busy......
[08:40] <XVampireX> figure out how to uninstall envy and we'll talk
[08:40] <Darkrift2> but im wanting to buy this ebook
[08:40] <XVampireX> what ebook?
[08:40] <Darkrift2> but not wanting to waste money if ur not sure that it will work
[08:40] <AcE13> XVampireX: consider that done... now what?
[08:40] <zipper> [20:38]  <XVampireX> It has been proved <- was going to stop, but i would very much like to see the so-called proof
[08:40] <Darkrift2> the secret
[08:40] <XVampireX> ignore drm doesn't work?
[08:40] <Darkrift2> i cant find adobe reader for linux on the site
[08:40] <Darkrift2> i havent purchased it yet
[08:40] <XVampireX> !adobe
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <Darkrift2> are you fairly sure that will work?
[08:41] <XVampireX> hmm, just a sec
[08:41] <AcE13> XVampireX: ok gonna try that
[08:41] <Darkrift2> $15+ for a book i might not be able to read will suck
[08:41] <XVampireX> !reader
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <XVampireX> ubotu is silly
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is silly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <Darkrift2> also, i was wondering if opening it and using ocr on it to get it into an unrpotected format might work
[08:42] <XVampireX> http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=10&platform=unix
[08:43] <XVampireX> and if that doesn't work, ask pinotree he's the maintainer of kpdf
[08:43] <XVampireX> actually, that link is wrong
[08:44] <XVampireX> !acrobat
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acrobat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <XVampireX> http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
[08:44] <XVampireX> try that though
[08:45] <Darkrift2> u rock d00d
[08:45] <zipper> XVampireX: sorry to bother you while you're helping people, but if you get the time, i would like to see the proof you have on linux giving lower pings than windows.
[08:45] <keith> adept say catalog is locked, how  do I unlock it
[08:45] <XVampireX> Darkrift2: Works?
[08:45] <Darkrift2> slow ass server, but thanks a lot :)
[08:45] <Darkrift2> 21k dl :(
[08:46] <Darkrift2> ill know in 27 minutes
[08:46] <Darkrift2> lol
[08:46] <Darkrift2> adobe is getting cheap as hell
[08:46] <Darkrift2> cant even buy decent servers
[08:46] <XVampireX> zipper: I was playing with some friends a while ago on starcraft via wine, I had the same pings as the host
[08:47] <XVampireX> maybe a bit higher
[08:47] <zipper> XVampireX: couldn't that be caused by other things? Like not playing in prime-time, less congestion control, ect ect?
[08:47] <XVampireX> I don't care what it was I was enjoying it.
[08:48] <zipper> XVampireX: ofcourse. Lower pings are always welcome. But that doesnt mean linux lowers your ping (which is highly unlikely)
[08:48] <keith> is this a debate channel or help
[08:48] <zipper> keith: both
[08:48] <keith> sorry bad morning, just need to get adept working again
[08:49] <XVampireX> zipper: someone invented an ethernet device or something like that with embedded linux
[08:49] <zipper> keith: you need to stop using dpkg/apt in order to unlock it
[08:49] <XVampireX> hardocp did a test on it
[08:49] <XVampireX> and it proved to give better pings
[08:49] <keith> says some other program is using it and there is nothing else going
[08:49] <Darkrift2> lol!
[08:49] <Darkrift2> i used to write reviews for hardocp
[08:50] <madman91> i cant dock gaim into my system tray in kicker
[08:50] <madman91> ?!?!
[08:50] <madman91> and yes, it is enabled as system tray
[08:50] <XVampireX> Darkrift2: :)
[08:50] <zipper> XVampireX: Same has been made for windows. You have to understand though, that it doesnt matter what kind of ethernet device/protocol implementation you use. The only thing that matters, is how the servers/gateways you need to go through in order to reach the host, is setup.
[08:51] <keith> I saw the command yestereday, but it did not apply  to me till today
[08:51] <zipper> keith: could a prior process that used it, have crashed?
[08:51] <keith> no was working fine untill I did a update
[08:52] <zipper> keith: you only use adept for package management?
[08:52] <keith> yes
[08:52] <llutz> keith: try sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:53] <zipper> llutz: isnt it better to see if an old adept process is still running? And if it is, kill it?
[08:53] <AcE13> XVampireX: nvidia seems to be working now... thanks man
[08:53] <AcE13> I am getting direct rendering!
[08:53] <madman91> any idea why gaim wont dock into system tray in kicker?
[08:53] <madman91> when i try kdocker, it says system tray is hiddden, but xchat docks there
[08:53] <llutz> zipper: if he says "theres nothing other going on" i expect he checked that
[08:54] <AcE13> and glxgears is running at ~2600fps
[08:54] <zipper> AcE13: you sure its working? 2600fps doesnt seem like a lot
[08:55] <Darkrift2> 2600 doesnt seem like a lot?
[08:55] <AcE13> zipper: whats considered as standard rate?
[08:55] <zipper> AcE13: it depends on how powerful your box is
[08:55] <NickPresta> I get ~10000 FPS with glxgears, if it matters.
[08:55] <AcE13> zipper: nvidia geforce 6200
[08:55] <Darkrift2> wow
[08:55] <zipper> i think i get around ~10k fps as well
[08:55] <Darkrift2> 10,000 frames per second?
[08:56] <NickPresta> I have a 7900 GS though. I would assume an 8800 would get much more than 10K
[08:56] <zipper> AcE13: probably about right then... try testing it with a game or something
[08:56] <AcE13> zipper: well damn.... I'll be happy if I get beryl running...
[08:56] <llutz> AcE13: "18889 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3777.786 FPS"    7300LE
[08:56] <AcE13> looking into that right now
[08:57] <NickPresta> do a UT2004 demo test
[08:57] <zipper> "70453 frames in 5.0 seconds = 14090.439 FPS"
[08:57] <AcE13> llutz: 13107 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2621.294 FPS
[08:58] <llutz> <- don't need more than 25 FPS ;)
[08:59] <zipper> llutz: Everyone needs more than 25 fps in glxgears :)
[08:59] <AcE13> thats another way of looking at it...
[08:59] <AcE13> lol yeah
[08:59] <llutz> zipper: "mine is long enough"
[08:59] <AcE13> my old shitty system used to give me 100fps... I think
[08:59] <zipper> llutz: aw cmon... it's never too long to stroke your epeen a little
[09:03] <keith_> isn't there a command to unlock the adept
[09:04] <gan|y|med> since i installed feisty (fresh install) i don't have the font 'times' in ooo, and i cannot find it in the repos. does anybody know how to get it 'back'?
[09:05] <NickPresta> keith_, I don't understand what you mean. Can you be more specific?
[09:05] <manuel_> Hola
[09:05] <Darkrift2> q:
[09:06] <NickPresta> gan|y|med, install the msttcorefonts package.
[09:06] <NickPresta> It installs Microsoft TrueType fonts
[09:07] <Aoshi> hi, I need help
[09:07] <Aoshi> I want to have write permission in an nfts partition
[09:07] <gan|y|med> thx
[09:07] <Aoshi> I tried using root
[09:08] <ardchoille> !ntfs
[09:08] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:08] <Raevn> Poningru:
[09:08] <Raevn> Thank You, Thank You, Thank You
[09:08] <Raevn> Thank You, Thank You, Thank You
[09:08] <Raevn>                     Thank You !!!!!
[09:08] <Raevn> FixMBR worked! Had trouble with "device" name last time but figured ot out this time. Loading KUbuntu again.
[09:08] <Raevn> Riishathra available on request, if that is your custom. <snicker>
[09:08] <Pensacola> how can I display the ubuntu version in my terminal (Ubuntu 7.04 for example)
[09:08] <ardchoille> Pensacola: lsb_release -a
[09:08] <Pensacola> thx
[09:09] <XVampireX> Darkrift2: http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTIzOSwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
[09:09] <krumelux> in fact, searching for "times" in add/remove programs will display MS Core Fonts as a result ... too simple!
[09:12] <WillJitsu> I just downloaded Firefox from the website and I have the file in my home directory.  What's the next step to install it?
[09:12] <llutz> WillJitsu: why?
[09:12] <WillJitsu> llutz: why what?
[09:13] <llutz> WillJitsu: why did you download it?
[09:13] <zach> WillJitsu: Just open a terminal and do "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[09:13] <llutz> WillJitsu: install it from the repos
[09:13] <NickPresta> WillJitsu, you should be using your package manager to install applications like firefox
[09:13] <WillJitsu> oh... should everything I ever install be done from there?
[09:13] <zach> WillJitsu: If it's available from there, yeah
[09:13] <WillJitsu> how can I look through the repositories to see what's there?
[09:13] <NickPresta> WillJitsu, unless you have a good reason not to use the package manager, use it.
[09:14] <zach> WillJitsu: KMenu -> System -> Adept
[09:14] <ardchoille> WillJitsu: You'll find that the repos are big and you should always search the repos before compiling or installing from outside sources.
[09:14] <llutz> WillJitsu: apt-cache search, adept
[09:14] <WillJitsu> ardchoille: would it work the same way if I just installed firefox from the file I downloaded?
[09:14] <zach> WillJitsu: Yep
[09:14] <WillJitsu> ok cool
[09:14] <zach> WillJitsu: And it's a lot easier this way. ;-)
[09:14] <ardchoille> WillJitsu: Well, you won't get automatic updates and if anything goes wrong, it's harder to get help since you didn't use the repos.
[09:15] <Dodger73> hi all
[09:15] <WillJitsu> ardchoille: ok cool.  thanks
[09:15] <polypusher> Hey
[09:16] <Dodger73> still having problems with my ati card here. xorg.0.log is telling me "(EE) fglrx(0): GART is not initialized, disabling DRI"
[09:16] <Dodger73> got a pci-express x1900xtx
[09:16] <Dodger73> is there a specific module i need to load for gart?
[09:17] <zach> WillJitsu: You might consider running "sudo apt-get autoremove --purge adept*" from the terminal and then "sudo apt-get install synaptic gnome-app-install update-manager" if you want GNOME's package management programs. I've found them to be much more polished than KDE's.
[09:18] <polypusher> How do you luanch the graphical interface? when i boot all i get is a command line login
[09:18] <llp78> polypusher; startx
[09:19] <polypusher> thankyou :)
[09:19] <zach> polypusher: You might need to do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver xorg" if that doesn't work. X should be starting automatically if your xorg.conf is set up right.
[09:19] <ardchoille> polypusher: xorg should start on its own, so if it isn't starting, you need to find out why. from the command line: less ~/.xsession-errors
[09:21] <WillJitsu> zach: yeah I've got synaptic installed.  is there any reason to remove adept?  or should I keep them both on there?
[09:21] <ardchoille> WillJitsu: I believe that would be totally up to you
[09:21] <zach> WillJitsu: If you don't use Adept, you can safely get rid of it. I was pretty timid about that for a while, but doing so hasn't given me any problems.
[09:22] <WillJitsu> zach: all these commands you're telling me to run... do I just open up Konsole and run them from there?
[09:22] <zach> WillJitsu: You got it. :-)
[09:22] <ardchoille> yes
[09:22] <WillJitsu> nice
[09:23] <zach> I love how with KDE, everything's so tightly integrated, yet you can still remove any component you want and it won't break the system.
[09:23] <XVampireX> zach how do you know that?
[09:23] <james__> .
[09:23] <james__> ello'
[09:24] <zach> Well, maybe "any component you want" is an overstatement - I haven't tried removing everything. But the individual components seem to work fine on their own, without the rest of the desktop environment running.
[09:25] <zach> I was messing around with a custom xsession and was able to put Kicker and/or KDesktop into it and they both worked fine independently.
[09:25] <polypusher> when i type ~/.xsession-errors i get -bash:/ home/daniel/.xsession-errors: no such file or directory
[09:25] <maddops770> Question for y'all.  Are there any guides such as: Kubuntu for Windows users? I'm not having much luck and everything i find is for i386 and I'm using 64 bit.
[09:26] <maddops770> Plus I've managed to crash my Adept Package Manager and have no clue how to fix it.
[09:26] <ardchoille> zach: I once used kicker in gnome with the window maker window manager
[09:26] <WillJitsu> I have an nVidia GeForce 6800GT video card.  How do I get the best video driver installed so I can get my resolution up to 1600x1200 intead of the 1024x768 that it's at now?
[09:26] <XVampireX> nvidia-glx-new
[09:26] <llp78> polypusher: try  cat .xsession-errors
[09:27] <polypusher> ok cheers
[09:27] <james__> hmm.. how do i find other channels lol?
[09:27] <llp78> from your home directory
[09:27] <zach> ardchoille: That begs the question: Why use GNOME? :-)
[09:27] <WillJitsu> XVampireX: get that through the package manager?
[09:27] <XVampireX> WillJitsu: Yes
[09:27] <ardchoille> zach: I dropped it a while back in favour of kubuntu
[09:27] <james__> hmm.. im using some IRc client.. hmm..  not the propper irc thing :/
[09:27] <polypusher> any commmand i type in says :command not found
[09:28] <ardchoille> polypusher: Did you happen to end up in busybox?
[09:28] <polypusher> whats that?
[09:28] <james__> Konversation
[09:29] <WillJitsu> XVampireX: ok i just installed that. now what?
[09:29] <ardchoille> BusyBox is a software application which provides many standard Unix tools, much like the larger (but more capable) GNU Core Utilities. BusyBox is designed to be a small executable for use with Linux, which makes it ideal for special purpose Linux distributions and embedded devices.
[09:29] <XVampireX> in console: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[09:29] <mahdi> james__ alt+f2 opens up channel config
[09:29] <mahdi> er
[09:29] <XVampireX> then when that's done, ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:30] <mahdi> crap, forgot the right keycombo
[09:30] <james__> oki what in channel config now then? lol
[09:30] <zach> Well, I need to get going.  IRC yes
[09:33] <james__>  LIST Server load is temporarily too heavy. Please wait a while and try again.
[09:33] <Matthias2> Hello, I've a problem with Kubuntu and connecting to a wlan network, can someone help me?
[09:34] <NickPresta> Then wait and try again in a while.
[09:34] <llp78> Matthias2 have you checked to make sure your wirless adapter is supported ?
[09:35] <Matthias2> yes, he is installes already an active under wlan0
[09:35] <Matthias2> the problem is the connecting
[09:36] <Matthias2> I have a config file that is correctly configed
[09:36] <Matthias2> but when I want to connect comes: blablabla disconnected --> disconnected
[09:36] <james__> 3788 channels is alot? lol
[09:37] <Matthias2> wpa_supplicant is installed, right?
[09:37] <Matthias2> I mean it's part of kubuntu
[09:38] <NotFaint> Anybody know why a drive that reads -- at least in the BIOS and is able to at least begin booting windows -- wouldn't show up in /dev/ on a Kubuntu liveCD?
[09:38] <NotFaint> This is on an old Gateway Pentium III laptop
[09:38] <NotFaint> so I don't think it's a matter of driver support :P
[09:40] <llp78> NotFaint: not in /dev/ under 'sda'?
[09:40] <NotFaint> not sda, not hda
[09:40] <NotFaint> (it wouldn't be sda anyway, scsi wouldn't be in a laptop I'd think, and this is too old for sata)
[09:40] <llp78> NotFaint: sorry i havent a clue - :(
[09:40] <NotFaint> llp78: effort's appreciated :P
[09:40] <NotFaint> think I'll just tell the guy his hard drive is fucked
[09:41] <NotFaint> though it might be his motherboard too
[09:41] <llp78> the new kubuntu uses sda - they have got rid or hda
[09:41] <NotFaint> *sigh* I hate when people ask me to fucking give estimates
[09:41] <PriceChild> !ohmy | NotFaint
[09:41] <ubotu> NotFaint: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:41] <NotFaint> oh, sorry
[09:41] <zipper> !effects
[09:41] <ubotu> For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.
[09:42] <NotFaint> llp78: you sure about that? way I understand it is sda is scsi/sata, hda is anything on a pata interface
[09:42] <llp78> NotFaint: my ide drivew shows as sda
[09:42] <llp78> ide = hda or pata
[09:42] <llp78> sda = scsi/sata
[09:42] <NotFaint> "ide" just means "integrated drive electronics," and the term applies to SATA as well :P
[09:42] <zipper> I was trying out different KDE themes, but now it seems like i cant get firefox and the date (near the clock on the panel) back to normal/default. Any hints? everything else seems to go back to normal when i switch theme
[09:43] <NotFaint> yarr, anyway
[09:43] <llp78> NotFaint: all i know is my ide now shows up as a sda on kubuntu when it should be a hda
[09:43] <NotFaint> llp78: did you take that recent kernel update from the repository?
[09:44] <greg_g> sda/hda, they are just labels, doesn't change much
[09:44] <NotFaint> (was today or yesterday)
[09:44] <llp78> no update
[09:44] <NotFaint> greg_g: yeah, it's just some idle banter here
[09:44] <greg_g> ahh, came in at the middle
[09:44] <NotFaint> llp78: hmm, because my machine was 7.04 from the beginning and the hd is hda, cd is hdb
[09:45] <greg_g> I remember reading something on the "why" with the change from hda to sda, but honestly, I forgot it because I didn't care much :)
[09:45] <NotFaint> well, maybe I'll check my machine again when I get home, anyway
[09:45] <WillJitsu> what is the proper way to install the Pidgin IM client?  I don't see it in Synaptic.
[09:46] <llp78> NotFaint: using the original kernel in the new kubuntu.
[09:46] <Darkrift2> how do you install a tarball?
[09:47] <Darkrift2> tar -zxvf AdobeReader_enu-7.0.9-1.i386.tar.gz <---- didnt seem to work
[09:47] <Darkrift2> just extracted it
[09:47] <Darkrift2> but the readme said that would install it :(
[09:47] <M4iden_Rul3z> hello!
[09:47] <llp78> Darkrift2: what files you got after you extracted
[09:48] <zipper> !help
[09:48] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:49] <Darkrift2> !install
[09:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[09:49] <Darkrift2> !tar.gz
[09:49] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[09:49] <Darkrift2> !install scripot
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install scripot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <Darkrift2> !install script
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install script - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <azmodhan> hi guys, how do i get virtualbox?
[09:50] <llp78> Darkrift2: did you download the source ? for this program - is that why its tar.bz ?
[09:51] <Darkrift2> no
[09:51] <Darkrift2> its adobe reader
[09:51] <Darkrift2> it came in that format
[09:51] <Darkrift2> if i extract it, i get 2 tar files, a readme.html and an install script
[09:52] <llp78> ok have you tried to run the install script ?
[09:52] <Darkrift2> tar -zxvf AdobeReader_enu-7.0.9-1.i386.tar.gz will install it
[09:52] <Darkrift2> the readme says that ^
[09:52] <Darkrift2> how?
[09:52] <Darkrift2> i tried clicking on it
[09:52] <Darkrift2> tried in console too
[09:53] <llp78> tar -zxvf just extracts the contents
[09:53] <maddops770> Hi.  I'm new so I need some help.  I got this message error when trying to start Adept Package Manager.  I'm clueless as to what to do next. The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[09:53] <Darkrift2> yeah
[09:53] <Darkrift2> thats what i thought
[09:53] <Darkrift2> wasnt sure if the scirpt would start automatically or not though
[09:53] <Darkrift2> so how do you run the script?
[09:53] <llp78> so no use the terminal go to the extracted directory and run the install script
[09:53] <Darkrift2> darkrift@HP:~/Desktop/AdobeReader$ INSTALL
[09:53] <Darkrift2> bash: INSTALL: command not found
[09:53] <Darkrift2> darkrift@HP:~/Desktop/AdobeReader$
[09:54] <llp78> hmm type cat INSTALL
[09:54] <Darkrift2> i c
[09:54] <Darkrift2> well
[09:54] <Darkrift2> i see code
[09:54] <Darkrift2> its definately a script
[09:54] <Darkrift2> how do i run it though
[09:54] <llp78> run the file with a dot and /
[09:54] <llp78> ./
[09:54] <Darkrift2> ahhh
[09:54] <Darkrift2> i c
[09:54] <llp78> ./filename
[09:55] <Darkrift2> ty
[09:55] <llp78> Darkrift2: did it work
[09:55] <llp78> ?
[09:55] <Darkrift2> its installing now
[09:55] <llp78> wicked glad to help
[09:55] <Raevn> Hi Y'all:
[09:55] <Raevn> Have Ubuntu CD, want to load Kubuntu with it.
[09:55] <Raevn> The desktop "Install" icon has a "command" line that reads:
[09:55] <Raevn> "Ubiquity --desktop %k gtkui"
[09:55] <Raevn> If I change it to read:
[09:55] <Raevn> "Ubiquity --desktop %k KDEui"
[09:55] <Raevn> Will this load the KDE environment?
[09:56] <Darkrift2> dont think so
[09:56] <llp78> Raevn you need to download kubuntu
[09:56] <NickPresta> No, you will have to either download Kubuntu or install ubuntu and then install kubuntu-desktop
[09:56] <Darkrift2> or else they wouldnt make 2 different cd's
[09:56] <dazjorz> umm
[09:56] <Raevn> Drat. Thought I had a shortcut there
[09:56] <llp78> you can add kde to ubuntu but its messey
[09:57] <dazjorz> llp78: it's not messy
[09:57] <dazjorz> llp78: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will make the installation kubuntu
[09:57] <adz21c> Raevn: once u got ubuntu install just insteall kubuntu-desktop package, that should do it
[09:57] <llp78> dazjorz: never done it my self - but have read issues
[09:57] <Raevn> Trouble is the KDE CD wants me to sign in and do one knows the username or password.
[09:57] <coreymon77> hey guys
[09:57] <dazjorz> llp78: it works fine here
[09:57] <dazjorz> Raevn: the KDE CD?
[09:57] <coreymon77> is it possible to get pidgin as a deb
[09:57] <coreymon77> or form apt
[09:57] <dazjorz> Raevn: the username/password is always ubuntu:ubuntu, or for kubuntu maybe kubuntu:kubuntu, as far as I know
[09:58] <coreymon77> from*
[09:58] <Raevn> Hate it when that happens...
[09:58] <llutz> coreymon77: getdeb.net
[09:58] <Raevn> Yes, the KDE CD "I have" wants me to login
[09:59] <maddops770> Hi.  I'm new so I need some help.  I got this message error when trying to start Adept Package Manager.  I'm clueless as to what to do next. The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[09:59] <Raevn> Time to DL another ISO image, eh?
[09:59] <coreymon77> maddops770: well, do what it says
[09:59] <fdoving> !adeptfix | maddops770
[09:59] <ubotu> maddops770: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:59] <coreymon77> maddops770: try using those commands in a terminal window
[09:59] <chris_> yay :D
[10:00] <psp_hacker> yo
[10:00] <maddops770> I get kill process 8902 (y/N)
[10:00] <fdoving> maddops770: Yes you want to.
[10:01] <maddops770> And now I'm back to my prompt.
[10:01] <fdoving> maddops770: then try to restart adept the regular way.
[10:01] <Raevn> Dazjorz: Time to DL another ISO image, eh?
[10:02] <maddops770> Fdoving: Nope.  still broken.  I tried adding a repository and may have jacked it up. (Before Crash)
[10:02] <fdoving> maddops770: ah, probably. you can try kmenu -> run command 'kdesu software-properties-kde'
[10:03] <fdoving> maddops770: then see if you find any broken repisitories.
[10:03] <dazjorz> Raevn: I guess so :)
[10:03] <fdoving> maddops770: also, you can try 'sudo apt-get update' from a konsole to get a more informative error message.
[10:03] <dazjorz> Raevn: Or just install Ubuntu and install the kubuntu-desktop package
[10:03] <dazjorz> Raevn: That'll work just as well.
[10:04] <maddops770> I don't seem to have a kmenu option.
[10:04] <fdoving> maddops770: Run Command?
[10:04] <maddops770> sudo apt-get update
[10:04] <fdoving> maddops770: Kmenu is the K in the lower left corner, the "start" menu.
[10:06] <maddops770> Gotcha.  I did get the kdesu software properties up.  It looks just the same as it did before Adept said it gave up the ship.  Also Konsole error message was:E: Malformed line 49 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[10:06] <ardchoille> Speaking of the kmenu, is it possible to change the icon used on the kmenu button?
[10:07] <fdoving> maddops770: if it doesn't show up in software-properties, under third-party, i'd recommend opening /etc/apt/sources.list in a editor and fix line 49. kmenu -> run command -> 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list' - for example.
[10:07] <fdoving> ardchoille: yes, you can, but you must replace the kmenu.png icon manually.
[10:07] <ardchoille> maddops770: Here is a good sources.list: http://imacgregor.com/Personal/SourcesList
[10:08] <ardchoille> fdoving: Ah, ok, that's no problem. Which .png file is it?
[10:08] <fdoving> ardchoille: it's your icon-themes kmenu.png
[10:08] <ardchoille> fdoving: Thank you :)
[10:09] <Raevn> Dazjorz: Will try the experiment *once* and then do the Ubuntu-->KDE conversion. Not much play time , though.
[10:09] <Raevn> Also have a Dell Latitude; M233XT; 128mb RAM, 2.2gb HDD, etc. to load XBuntu on. Requires a Server --> XBuntu load out. Wish us luck.
[10:09] <fdoving> ardchoille: 'find /usr/share/icons/ -name kmenu.png' - one of those, if you haven't installed some user-only icon theme.
[10:09] <maddops770> You rock man!  Thanks.  The kate tip worked.
[10:09] <ardchoille> fdoving: Found it :)
[10:10] <fdoving> maddops770: great :)
[10:10] <maddops770> Please forgive my stupidity.  I'm a 15 year vet of Windows, and I want to see what Kbuntu can do on some cutting edge hardware.
[10:10] <maddops770> Yeah, 15 year vet who's only 28.  I've been doing it since I was 13.
[10:10] <Raevn> No sweat, MadOps, you're in good company
[10:11] <maddops770> It's kinda like windows 3.1/95 (although prettier).   Was supporting MSN at the time. :-&
[10:12] <llp78> Darkrift2 how come?
[10:12] <Darkrift2> because it doesnt dl the ebook
[10:12] <maddops770> Question is:  Why does Linux deem it necessary to have 8 to 10 different ways of getting a package instead of 1)download it and 2) click on it and have it install.  ;D
[10:12] <Darkrift2> it doewnloads a 1k etd.ebx file
[10:13] <fdoving> maddops770: you can do that too :)
[10:13] <timd> is SLI supported in kubuntu?
[10:13] <maddops770> Using my Adept Package Manager or Synaptic?
[10:13] <fdoving> maddops770: download it, rightclick on it -> kubuntu menu -> install package.
[10:13] <timd> !sli
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sli - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <NickPresta> maddops770, because GNU+Linux is about choice. I don't want to point and click. I like to type :)
[10:13] <Raevn> Remember, this is NOT the M$ monarchy. We're more democratic and so we need 15 ways to do everything (Me thinks) LOL
[10:13] <coreymon77> maddops770: you can use adept or synaptic, you can sue the terminal
[10:13] <coreymon77> some people just like doing things differently
[10:13] <maddops770> Timid: what are you using for SLI?
[10:13] <zipper> maddops770: its all about choices and preferences. Get used to using one of the methods, and if you're happy with it, keep using it. Otherwise you have the option to change it.
[10:14] <llp78> maddops770: apitude aswell
[10:14] <ubuntu__> holas
[10:14] <fdoving> maddops770: but you usually don't want to do that, because using the packages in the repository is always recommended. that way apt will handle dependencies etc.
[10:14] <timd> 2 x NVIDIA GeForce 6800
[10:14] <ubuntu__> alguno habla espaol?
[10:14] <fdoving> !es | ubuntu__
[10:14] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:14] <coreymon77> maddops770: the point is to let everyone do things the way they want to
[10:14] <ubuntu__> :)
[10:14] <coreymon77> maddops770: different ways to allow people to do it as simple or as complicated and controlled as they want
[10:15] <maddops770> Now what's Apt and Apitude?  I can understand that the command codes will get me the packages I seek but I don't understand their function beyond "That's what you type to get it."
[10:15] <zipper> maddops770: apt is for console, apitude is gui
[10:15] <zipper> afaik
[10:15] <maddops770> timid: don't know.
[10:15] <fdoving> maddops770: also, if you feel you're thrown at the terminal when you ask for help, it's just because it's easier to help with commands, explaining a point-clicking proccedure to fix something is usually harder than the command. :)
[10:15] <coreymon77> maddops770: apt is always the best way of doing things, ebcause with apt, if there is an unment depeddency, apt will fix it, installing the deb normally will not fix any broken dependencies
[10:15] <acemo> zipper: adept is gui
[10:15] <acemo> zipper: aptitude is console
[10:16] <llp78> apitude is a terminal verion of adept
[10:16] <maddops770> True.  I get the konsole bit.  And don't mind it.  At least you can paste into it.
[10:16] <zipper> acemo: ah yeah... my bad. But it does have a menu-system, which apt does not
[10:16] <fdoving> coreymon77: you can however, install the package namnually and then ask apt to help you fix the broken situation :)
[10:16] <maddops770> I don't get apitude.  Is that run from "Run Command" under the k-menu?
[10:16] <coreymon77> yes
[10:16] <coreymon77> but whats the point in that
[10:16] <coreymon77> just skip one step and get apt to do it all
[10:16] <llp78> just type apitude into a terminal window
[10:16] <fdoving> coreymon77: if the package is in a repository, yes.
[10:16] <llp78> might need to use sude
[10:17] <llp78> sudo.. rather
[10:17] <acemo> anyone knows how to get dual screen on kubuntu?
[10:17] <fdoving> maddops770: aptitude is a terminal app.
[10:17] <maddops770> I get sudo: run as admin
[10:17] <maddops770> same as run as command in Server 2k3 and Vista.
[10:17] <maddops770> Ok FDoving.  YOu lost me with terminal app?
[10:17] <llp78> type sudo apitude
[10:18] <fdoving> maddops770: aptitude is a app designed to be run from the commandline, like the good old microsoft 'edit' the blue one, remember?
[10:18] <maddops770> can't do it in terminal.
[10:18] <NickPresta> @acemo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[10:19] <maddops770> IIp type that where?
[10:19] <fdoving> maddops770: kmenu -> system -> konsole
[10:19] <llp78> i cant remember how to spell the damm thing - i never use it
[10:20] <maddops770> Aptitude ;)
[10:20] <maddops770> And i did get it to come up.  That's the (Excuse the bad reference) "DOS" version of the Package Managers in the GUI?
[10:21] <llp78> cool - sorry about that -
[10:21] <acemo> NickPresta: should those work with the tv out from a laptop too?
[10:21] <NickPresta> @acemo: I'm not sure. I use TwinView with my two 20" monitors, It works well. I have no tried it with TV out or anything like that.
[10:21] <fdoving> maddops770: one of them, the one with a "dos" (terminal) interface, there is also 'apt-get' which only takes commandline arguments, no user-inteface except that.
[10:22] <fdoving> maddops770: aptitude also does commandline arguments, for example 'sudo aptitude install <packagename>'
[10:22] <llp78> apt-get is good if you know the package name - if you dont then i use adept
[10:22] <maddops770> "If there is an unmet dependency, apt will fix it."  Meaning: Missing libraries or missing packages will get requested?
[10:23] <llp78> yep thats right
[10:23] <jzilla_> correct
[10:23] <fdoving> llp78: you can use 'apt-cache search <string>'
[10:23] <NickPresta> if you install a package X that requires package Y, it will install both X and Y
[10:23] <fdoving> maddops770: correct.
[10:23] <llp78> fdoving: thanks for that :)
[10:23] <fdoving> llp78: there is also 'aptitude search <string>' - i find apt-cache faster.
[10:24] <llp78> i never use aptitude
[10:24] <llp78> but the ap-get command is handy
[10:24] <llp78> apt-cache
[10:25] <maddops770> So for example if I have the new nVidia 64Bit driver that is package (NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-100.14.09-pkg2.run) then what do I do from there?  Apt-get NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-100.14.09-pkg2.run?
[10:25] <fdoving> llp78: 'apt-cache madison packagename' and 'apt-cache policy packagename' can also be handy.
[10:25] <fdoving> maddops770: you don't use that package, you get the archive one.
[10:25] <fdoving> maddops770: i guess.. i don't have nvidia so i'm not familiar with how that stuff works.
[10:26] <maddops770> I tried the glx-new and everything, but they don't seem to work with the 8800GT
[10:26] <maddops770> this one had a requirement of shutting down the Xserver and using sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-100.14.09-pkg2.run and then it goes through the motions but something about kernel and something
[10:27] <maddops770> I can shut down the X server and get it to run.  But not to install.
[10:27] <ahmed__> guys , does steam work with wine ??
[10:28] <maddops770> I'd check out maximumpc.com and see about that.
[10:28] <fdoving> ahmed__: should do, yes. i got counter-strike source to run a few weeks ago.
[10:28] <maddops770> they said it can be done.
[10:28] <NickPresta> ahmed__, yes. I've successfully played CS:S through WINE
[10:28] <ahmed__> well
[10:28] <ahmed__> the problem is :S
[10:28] <ahmed__> i installed it and it works fine
[10:28] <ahmed__> but when connecting
[10:28] <ahmed__> it hangs a little bit
[10:29] <ahmed__> then come up sayin check ur internet connection
[10:29] <ahmed__> though i can run it with cedega,, but iwant to fix this issue with wine cause its killing some other apps too
[10:29] <maddops770> Funny, I have high end gaming hardware and could care less about playing games.  I just want to be able to see links I'm sent in IM and do stuff on the net.  With a little video editing and listening to my music.
[10:29] <NickPresta> ahmed__, have you followed the instructions here: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3731
[10:32] <ahmed__> NickPresta,, only 1 problem internet explorer ,, cant install it in wine
[10:32] <NickPresta> ahmed__, why not?
[10:32] <ahmed__> how to install it ?
[10:33] <NickPresta> ahmed__, try http://patrick.spacesurfer.com/ie_wine_install.html
[10:34] <NickPresta> ahmed__, really, there are tons of guides on the net. Search google for one that works.
[10:35] <acemo> NickPresta: got tv to work.. but only as black and white :S
[10:36] <maddops770> does anybody have a good repository list?  Preferably leaning toward 64bit?  Free - non-free I really don't care as long as I can make use of my hardware.
[10:37] <NickPresta> maddops770, http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[10:38] <maddops770> Thanks NP!
[10:39] <maddops770> Do I want the source Repositories box?
[10:39] <NickPresta> maddops770, Not normally, no.  You don't plan on building anything from source, do you?
[10:39] <maddops770> Not until I learn how.
[10:40] <NickPresta> Then I wouldn't bother with them for now.
[10:40] <maddops770> Cools
[10:40] <carlos__> i have a quick question...where can i find a dock that wrks fine with ubuntu
[10:40] <carlos__> whats up everyone
[10:40] <maddops770> Hey carlos!
[10:40] <carlos__> hey
[10:41] <carlos__> how u doing
[10:41] <carlos__> ?
[10:41] <maddops770> Not too bad.
[10:41] <carlos__> same here
[10:41] <carlos__> i been having a problem finding a dock that wrks.....
[10:42] <NickPresta> carlos__, perhaps kdocker. It depends on libqt3-mt but that shouldn't be a big deal...
[10:42] <carlos__> ok ima give that one a try again
[10:43] <carlos__> do u know a web page that has the steps to it
[10:43] <xerosis> carlos__: are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[10:43] <carlos__> ubuntu 7.04
[10:44] <xerosis> carlos__: try avant-window-decorator
[10:44] <xerosis> carlos__: also this channel is for kubuntu, #ubuntu is for ubuntu
[10:44] <carlos__> k i had that one but the page i got it from did not explain right how to use it
[10:44] <carlos__> oh ok my bad
[10:45] <carlos__> kubuntu is pretty cool i had that to
[10:45] <carlos__> but then it was not that compatible wit my laptop
[10:46] <carlos__> i also had a problem with my wireless card on my laptop...it did not recognize it
[10:46] <carlos__> anyone has a problem wit that to
[10:46] <carlos__> or is their a way to fix it
[10:50] <maddops770> Now on the sources list, I did run the generator.  And there are some differences between my list and the generated lists.  Is that important or not?
[10:51] <OhMyAudi> Hi all
[10:51] <llp78> generator ?
[10:52] <maddops770> http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[10:52] <maddops770> Nick Presto gave it to me.
[10:53] <maddops770> It seems to come up with everything I already have except for the CDROM lines.
[10:53] <llp78> your using ubuntu
[10:53] <llp78> ?
[10:53] <maddops770> kbuntu.
[10:54] <llp78> hmm thats the wrong link or ive drunk too much tonight
[10:54] <maddops770> Eh, it's three in the afternoon in the states.
[10:54] <ReMiiRuru> Can anyone help me with putting together simple shell script? I what to archive(but only zip, rar or 7z) about 100 folders that are in one place, but I want every folder(and it's content) to go to different archive named the same as the original file was, but I want to do it fast, with simple script... I hope it can be simple ;x
[10:55] <NickPresta> Quick question: Is there any way to view which repository provides which packages?
[10:55] <maddops770> It matches the repositories I've had in my default list.  So I'm guessin they must be right.
[10:55] <llp78> maddops770 its nearly 11 here
[10:55] <OhMyAudi> How can I get a deb package file to install when I double click it?
[10:55] <maddops770> UK?
[10:55] <llp78> yea
[10:55] <SlimeyPete> it's 10pm here in the UK...
[10:56] <_4strO> 11pm in france
[10:56] <maddops770> download it, rightclick on it -> kubuntu menu -> install package.
[10:56] <_4strO> :)
[10:56] <OhMyAudi> maddops770: I know, but I want a double click solution like the gdeb for gnome?
[10:57] <maddops770> Got me.  I have gnome but run KDE.
[10:58] <maddops770> NickPresta:  I don't know.  Unless you edit your source list to include One resource at a time.
[10:59] <david_> hi @ all
[10:59] <maddops770> ReMiiRuru, you're not being ignored, I just don't think anyone has the ability to help with your script question.
[11:17] <darkrift> who knows what the best OCR program is?
[11:17] <darkrift> !ocr
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ocr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <GrueTamer> !info ocr
[11:19] <ubotu> Package ocr does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:20] <GrueTamer> oh, of course that wouldnt work
[11:22] <tibbar> has anyone here installed kde-devel? I can't install it..
[11:23] <NickPresta> tibbar, it works fine for me when I simulate the installation...
[11:24] <tibbar> NickPresta: did you simulate it with apitude?
[11:24] <NickPresta> tibbar, apt-get
[11:25] <tibbar> NickPresta: could you tell me how to simulate a installatoin with apt-get?
[11:25] <Millo> anyone knows how to configure a: "auto-copy selection" on kubuntu feisty?
[11:25] <NickPresta> tibbar, apt-get -s install kde-devel
[11:25] <tibbar> thanks
[11:28] <hunfa> can somebody help me with configuring internet connection?
[11:28] <NickPresta> hunfa, ask your question - you're likely to get more responses.
[11:29] <tibbar> NickPresta: my friend is mirroring all the ubuntu packages to my local wifi user group and I'm downloading via his repostory..
[11:30] <hunfa> i want to create an internet connection through PPPoE
[11:30] <NickPresta> tibbar, oh. neat.
[11:30] <tibbar> NickPresta: I still don't think the problem lies there,,,
[11:33] <hunfa> there is a way to create an internet connection via PPPoE?
[11:33] <tibbar> "kdebase-dev: Depends: kate (= 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20) but 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20.1 is to be installed" this is one of the dependincies but i don't understand why it wouldn't install the despendecies
[11:34] <zach_> Greets, everyone...
[11:34] <larson9999> not sure how good a deal this was: emachines 2.2 celeron, 256mb ram, 40gb hd, dvd drive, not sure about video card...$35.
[11:34] <servidorest> hello, how a i can install mysql, i mean, i want know the components for do it!
[11:35] <NickPresta> tibbar, which version of KDE are you running?
[11:35] <larson9999> i don't really need a new pc but i think this is beefy enough i can set it up for a server and be quite happy.
[11:35] <tibbar> NickPresta: I think most of the apps is 3.5.6
[11:36] <NickPresta> You may consider upgrading to KDE 3.5.7 to fix your problem.
[11:36] <tibbar> NickPresta: I've don't know something is wierd I don't know if its just me but i can remeber it used to tell me 3.5.7 but for your computer to install 3.5.7 then you'd have to add the reposty and i never did
[11:37] <fdoving> tibbar: the .1 indicates it's an update. kdebase-dev and kate comes from the same source package, so unless you've manually downloaded the package and don't have feisty-updates repositories installed it's a strange situation, what if you update kdebase-dev first, then install kate?
[11:37] <tibbar> NickPresta: do you have 3.5.7 on atm?
[11:37] <zach_> I used ndiswrapper to get my wireless card working, and now, whenever I turn the computer on, if it doesn't have the same connection as when it shut down (e.g., wireless connection when shut down / wireless connection on boot, wired connection when shut down / wired connection on boot, no connection on shutdown / no connection on boot), it just hangs at the bootsplash screen. Can someone please help me with this?
[11:38] <NickPresta> tibbar, to install 3.5.7, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php. And yes, I am using KDE 3.5.7 and my Kate and such is version ...20.1
[11:38] <millo> any know how to configure the "auto-copy selection" in kde??
[11:38] <tibbar> fdoving: well didn't download it manually
[11:38] <tibbar> NickPresta: ok
[11:39] <fdoving> tibbar: then you most certainly have kdebase-dev version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20.1 available, and also kate in the same version
[11:40] <tibbar> fdoving: thanks for the info.
[11:41] <zach_> My system just hangs at the bootsplash screen if it doesn't have the same network connection it had when it was last shut down. Any ideas?
[11:41] <llp78> zach_: set
[11:43] <zach_> llp78: ? I just ran that from a terminal. What now?
[11:44] <llp78> zach_: sorry set a static IP?
[11:46] <zach_> llp78: Oh. Well, I set one for the default gateway in the Network Interfaces section of KControl. Should I try deleting that?
[11:47] <llp78> if you set a static IP already - i dont understand why it hangs..
[11:49] <zach_> For the Configure Device dialogs for my network interfaces, the TCP/IP Address sections should be set to Automatic, right?
[11:49] <llp78> depends if your using a router
[11:50] <zach_> Usually, yes, but maybe not always (it's my cousin's laptop).
[11:51] <llp78> usually the delay in boot up is beacuse you cannot obtain an IP automaticly
[11:51] <llp78> if you use DHCP
[11:52] <zach_> I can't understand why any of this would keep the system from booting though. I AM using ndiswrapper so my wireless card will work, not sure if anything I did when setting that up could be causing this.
[11:53] <zach_> llp78: Could I try switching to bootp instead of DHCP?
[11:55] <kize> how can i manage update and softwares mirrors?
[11:58] <zach_> llp78: Still there?
[12:05] <corbax> salut
[12:06] <kize> can i manage from where new programs will be downloaded?
[12:06] <NickPresta> @kize: what do you mean?
[12:06] <mike_> kize: save as....?
[12:07] <kize> my only source for new programs is the dvd of kubuntu
[12:07] <kize> can i add mirors?
[12:07] <NickPresta> Have you installed Kubuntu or are you running on the live CD?
[12:07] <mike_> kize: no internet?
[12:07] <kize> i installed kubuntu
[12:07] <shady16> tyryy
[12:07] <NickPresta> You want to use the Add/Remove Application as well as Adept
[12:07] <soulrider> !envy
[12:07] <pyrotix_> kize: if you have internet you can install via adept or add remove programs
[12:07] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[12:08] <soulrider> !wiki
[12:08] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[12:08] <kize> but adept can't find mplayer
[12:11] <kize> can i add mirrors?


[00:43] <BarkingFish> anyone know where the base plasma widgets for KDE are stored please?
[00:44] <BarkingFish> I have a guy in the help channel who's deleted one of his, and we can't find it :)
[00:44] <BarkingFish> his kmenu is missing, and the widget's not in his add widgets list :P
[00:57] <Riddell> plasma-desktop and plasma-widgets-workspace I think
[00:57] <BarkingFish> Riddell: I think he's found it.
[00:58] <BarkingFish> i'll check
[00:59] <BarkingFish> yep, he found it.
[00:59] <BarkingFish> He hadn't scrolled through the blinking widgets list :)
[00:59] <BarkingFish> :P
[01:34] <BarkingFish> Riddell: are you still about please?
[01:34] <BarkingFish> I'm sorry, I'm exceptionally tired tonight and my brain is working at about 2.0%...
[01:35] <BarkingFish> I know there is a fix to the broken Natty>Oneiric upgrade, but for the life of me, I can't remember what it is.
[01:35] <BarkingFish> It was used on me, when my Oneiric upgrade went pear shaped
[01:36] <Riddell> I wasn't aware Natty>Oneiric upgrade was generally broken
[01:36] <Riddell> generally if an upgrade breaks you need to reinstall
[01:38] <BarkingFish> sorry about that, i lost my connection
[01:38] <BarkingFish> did anyone reply?
[01:41] <JontheEchidna> BarkingFish:
[01:41] <JontheEchidna> [20:36:17] <Riddell> I wasn't aware Natty>Oneiric upgrade was generally broken
[01:41] <JontheEchidna> [20:36:33] <Riddell> generally if an upgrade breaks you need to reinstall
[01:41] <BarkingFish> JontheEchidna: it's not broken
[01:41] <BarkingFish> what's happened is the user managed a partial upgrade, but then for some reason it failed
[01:42] <BarkingFish> so only some of his packages got updated - this is what happened to mine
[01:43] <BarkingFish> Sorry JontheEchidna i lost you again
[01:43] <BarkingFish> damn wifi. I'm looking forward to getting my cable switched on tomorrow :)
[01:43] <JontheEchidna> I hadn't said anything. Just relaying what jr said
[01:44] <BarkingFish> ah, well that's what's happened.
[01:44] <BarkingFish> I know there's a fix, someone here told me about it.
[01:44] <BarkingFish> The user has done the sudo apt-get -f install and dpkg --configure -a repairs to no avail
[01:48] <Riddell> if the upgrade has been interuppted the commands you give above might help but generally a reinstall is the way to go
[01:49] <BarkingFish> so he'll have to download an 11.10 iso and reinstall everything?
[01:50] <Riddell> yes
[01:50] <BarkingFish> ok, i'll break the news to him
[01:53] <BarkingFish> i remembered what I did
[01:53] <BarkingFish> :)
[01:53] <BarkingFish> Mine failed on a package dependency when I did it through kpackagekit...
[01:54] <BarkingFish> i repaired the upgrade by repeating sudo apt-get dist-upgrade after those other 2 commands, but from a TTY and with KDM stopped
[11:30] <Riddell> good morning
[11:35] <rbelem> Riddell, morning :-)
[13:02] <yofel> hm, 4.7.80 looks like 89 tars.. \o/
[13:16] <yofel> Riddell: got a plan for the debian merge? If not I would say do the merging for the packag and go straight ahead to .80 ?
[13:16] <yofel> *package
[13:46] <Quintasan> jussi: ping
[13:49] <Quintasan> jussi: Or just let me know what did you want. I'm off to get my math's assignment done and sent to university
[15:09] <jussi> Quintasan: absolutely nothing at all. I was just naming you "the doctor" :)
[17:02] <Quintasan> jussi: Ah, I see.
[17:02] <Quintasan> Shall you come to next UDS you might be able to behold my medical skills
[17:19] <jussi> Quintasan: should I be scared?
[17:24] <Quintasan> jussi, not really :-)
[18:59] <bambee> evening
[20:17] <danimo> debfx: ping?
[23:35] <debfx> danimo: pong
[23:38] <Riddell> hi zematynnad
[23:38] <zematynnad> hey :)


[00:03] <pteague_work> how do i remove the floppy drive icon from the desktop?  virtualbox is insisting i have it <.<
[00:07] <rgrig> in synaptic, "reload" succeds if synaptic is run from the command line, but not if run from the xfce menu. in the later case it fails because it tries to use some (wrong) proxy. in BOTH cases settings->preferences->network says "direct internet connection", which is how it should be. any ideas?
[01:04] <billybigrigger> why doesn't xfce want to auto mount my usb camera
[02:54] <sake> !ask anyone know how to add volume notifications to xubuntu?
[02:54] <sake> !topic
[02:55] <sake> anyone know how to add volume notifications to xubuntu?
[02:56] <knome> !info notify-osd | sake
[02:58] <sake> huh?
[02:58] <knome> sake, try installing that package.
[02:58] <sake> i did already
[02:58] <sake> no volume notifications
[02:58] <sake> and everything else works
[02:58] <knome> okay.
[02:59] <Laibsch> Is there anybody here experiencing bug 329616 as well?  upon login a large number of xfdesktop processes are started and bog down the computer.  I wonder what needs to be done to understand and fix the issue.
[03:00] <sake> knome: so... is there like a shell script or somethin i cn install 2 get the volume?
[03:00] <knome> i don't know.
[03:00] <knome> i don't like notifications myself
[03:00] <knome> so i don't use them
[03:06] <sake> knome, what are the shortcuts for increasing and decreasing the volume?
[03:09] <knome> sake, the commands?
[03:09] <sake> yea
[03:09] <sake> like ctrl-something
[03:09] <knome> i suppose there is none by default
[03:09] <knome> apart from possible multimedia keys
[03:09] <sake> ok
[03:09] <knome> http://open.knome.fi/2009/07/05/panels-disappearing-and-other-frequently-asked-questions/
[03:09] <knome> see the sound -section at the bottom
[03:10] <sake> ok
[03:10] <sake> my browser sez that the url duznt work
[03:10] <knome> it does.
[03:10] <knome> please copy the complete url (it might have been cut)
[03:12] <sake> yup same error
[03:12] <knome> "Open the Keyboard settings (Applications > Settings > Keyboard) and open the Application Shortcuts tab. Click add and follow the shortcut wizard. The shortcut commands are amixer sset Master 5%- for volume down, amixer sset Master 5%+ for volume up and mute for mute."
[03:12] <sake> ok thanx
[03:13] <sake> i found a shortcut
[03:13] <sake> but it sez the key is XF86VolumeMute
[03:14] <sake> i mean AudioMute
[03:14] <knome> that might not work.
[03:14] <knome> if it doesn't replace it with the command proposed.
[03:14] <sake> what key is it?
[03:14] <knome> any key you want it to be.
[03:15] <knome> see the settings window to find out.
[03:15] <sake> ok...
[03:15] <knome> i don't know which button "AudioMute" is in your keyboard
[03:15] <knome> you can change that.
[03:16] <ubd> hello how do i make a dial up connection
[03:17] <knome> !dialup | ubd
[03:23] <ubd> this is fucked up
[03:25] <sake> ubd, cussing WILL get u kicked
[03:25] <searcher> that'll get you a  lot of help
[03:25]  * sake doesnt like potty-mouths
[03:26] <knome> !language | ubd
[03:26]  * sake agrees with knome
[03:26] <sake> !language | ubd
[03:27] <ubd> i love you all guys, but that dont change the facts
[03:27] <sake> yea but not a reason to use the f word
[03:27] <knome> ubd, did you read the link?
[03:27] <sake> so dont cuss
[03:27] <ubd> linux cannot dial a 7 digit number!
[03:27] <ubd> yes i read most of it
[03:28] <knome> what about reading the parts you didn't read?
[03:28] <sake> then take off the country code smart one
[03:28] <ubd> the ones about network boot via dial up?
[03:28] <cody-somerville> sake, No need to get sarcastic either ;)
[03:28] <sake> sri
[03:29] <ubd> yes sake pls dont make fun of me
[03:29] <sake> sri
[03:29] <ubd> just becuz i cannot configure my modem doesnot mean i am necessarily inferior
[03:29] <cody-somerville> ubd, What have you tried thus far?
[03:29]  * sake says sorry to ubd
[03:29] <ubd> nothing
[03:30] <cody-somerville> Okay, so the first step is to identify what type of modem you have.
[03:30] <ubd> i know that my modem has a conexant chip
[03:30] <cody-somerville> ubd, What version of Xubuntu do you have?
[03:30] <pteague_work> what's the keyboard shortcut for opening the applications menu?
[03:30] <sake> ubd, i have idea install chestnut dialer
[03:30] <ubd> latest version
[03:31] <sake> ubd, i heard its gud
[03:31] <cody-somerville> ubd, So Xubuntu 9.04?
[03:31] <ubd> yes
[03:31] <ubd> i just installed it
[03:31] <ubd> cuz i couldnt connect with another distro
[03:32] <ubd> how can i learn if xxubuntu knows that i have a modem
[03:32] <ubd> lspci?
[03:33] <cody-somerville> ubd, Is your modem a PCI card?
[03:33] <ubd> this is a laptop
[03:34] <cody-somerville> ubd, Try running sudo lshw and then pastebin the output on pastebin.ubuntu.com
[03:36] <ubd> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/237952/
[03:39] <cody-somerville> ubd, It appears you have an Intel Sound card with built in modem
[03:39] <ubd> sound card with modem?
[03:40] <cody-somerville> yes
[03:40] <ubd> engineers  who made this are not audiophiles for sure
[03:40] <ubd> so xubuntu sees my modem?
[03:41] <cody-somerville> Sure. However, I'm quite sure that Xubuntu doesn't know how to use it - not yet atleast.
[03:41] <ubd> hmm
[03:42] <sake> ubd, this is almost like when i tried to install a network comp
[03:42] <sake> the solution turned out to be really simple
[03:43] <sake> so ur answer might be really simple
[03:43] <sake> but u ovrlooked
[03:43] <ubd> well
[03:43] <ubd> ill brb,  i have to change my room
[03:45] <cody-somerville> ubd, You can try using this http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/downloads-installer.php
[03:46] <cody-somerville> You can get a deb package from here: http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/full/downloads-ubuntu-x86.php
[03:46] <cody-somerville> Anyhow, I need to get to bed
[03:46] <cody-somerville> Best of luck ubd
[03:50] <sake> bb
[03:54] <billybigrigger> does anyone here use gnome-do?
[03:55] <billybigrigger> and does the Workspace Switcher plugin not work in XFCE?
[03:55] <billybigrigger> works fine in gnome, but it only shows 1 workspace, when i actually have 2
[04:04] <pteague_work> i think the gnome desktop doesn't completely adhere to the open desktop standard &/or gnome-do may be accessing extended functionality of gnome workspace...  that's a guess, i've not used gnome-do before...  what are you using gnome-do for?
[05:20] <ubd>    i istalled the drivers, everything is fine i theory
[05:20] <ubd> when i dial, i hear the numbers regarless of the phone connected or not
[05:20] <ubd> and nothing haappens
[05:20] <ubd> lol
[05:40] <mezquitale> how small can "/boot" be? anyone have any idea??
[06:54] <Yondering> hello.. I'm experiencing a strange issue with xfce.. :)  multiple xfdesktop processes keep spawning, anyone able to point me in a direction?   I've cleared ~/.cache/xfce/desktop and ~/.config/xfce/desktop..
[07:13] <hume> hi.. anyone got advice on how I can get a small script (sshfs-mounting some dirs) to run on login to xfce-session? something similar to sessions in gnome?
[07:21] <Laibsch> hume: xfce4-session-settings
[07:33] <hume> great, thx
[07:36] <hume> ehr.....is there a way to set the system language too? for menus and stuff, I mean
[07:56] <TheSheep> hume: at login
[07:57] <TheSheep> hume: or globally in system->language support
[08:45] <Fent> Hi ia anyone awake? got a nub question
[08:46] <Fent> Awwwwwww............:(
[08:49] <ablomen> Fent, sure, there are people awake, if you ask your question somebody that knows an answer might reply :)
[08:55] <Fent> lol
[08:55] <Fent> Well i am downloading Ubuntu-9.04
[08:56] <Fent> Can it be ran live? Just burn the .iso and it has the option on boot? Thanks let me know.
[08:58] <Fent> Come on Abolmen :)
[09:04] <Fent> ?
[09:06] <TheSheep> !livecd
[09:07] <Fent> Thank you. I figured it was. I have a laptop (gf's sister) and the keyboard i acting up
[09:08] <Fent> only Caps lock works and "Enter" so u cant enter a password on boot. But if u let it idle it works for a unkown amount of time (only had it a few hours(
[09:08] <Fent> and when i plug a keyboard in it. It also doesnt work....Ugh windows is such fail lol
[09:10] <Fent> i just dumped the drivers. worked on boot (which it hasnt before) hopefully that fixes it. Thanks for the answe tho Ubottu.
[09:15] <blue1> I have a laptop that is 1.5ghz 512mb ram but has no cdrom or floppy.
[09:16] <Fent> Usb ?
[09:16] <blue1> yes
[09:16] <Fent> so is your questions how to get linux on this laptop lol
[09:16] <blue1> ya
[09:16] <blue1> it has 3 usb
[09:17] <Fent> I believe u can install thru USB what do you have a "Netbook" or something?
[09:17] <blue1> nexlink laptop
[09:17] <Fent> www.google.com
[09:17] <blue1> i have a adapter that lets me connect laptop harddrive to my desktop
[09:17] <Fent> oops sorry. That was a "hotkey" that opens up google on my PC lol
[09:18] <blue1> but i will detect wrong hardware if i put it back?
[09:18] <Fent> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[09:18] <Fent> Try that
[09:19] <blue1> ok thanks
[09:19] <Fent> np
[09:25] <jadez03> Anyone in the room ever experienced Clearwire as an ISP?
[09:27] <Fent> not i
[09:28] <Fent> http://www.dslreports.com/comments/2879
[09:28] <Fent> check that out
[09:44] <hatake_kakashi> does anyone know how to get out of sysrq mode?
[09:46] <hatake_kakashi> for some reason I'm stuck in this place where the keyboard bindings are all messed up and sometimes using the sequence Ctrl+Alt+Scroll lock I get a little SysRq help menu but with those key combinations I do not know how to either activate them or disactivate them
[09:54] <hatake_kakashi> nm I managed to get out of sysrq by issuing alt+sysrq+o
[09:55] <hatake_kakashi> issued poweroff in other words :p thank goodness for having other computers nearby to see how one is supposed to get the key combos
[10:11] <jadez03> Fent, yeah. I concur with quite a bit of them. My latency can be around 900ms average.
[10:12] <cemunal> i open a gif file with evince but print menu is unavailable
[10:12] <cemunal> how can i fix?
[10:13] <knome> maybe you should use some other program to open the gif file
[10:16] <cemunal> evnice opens a gif file with resized for a4
[10:16] <cemunal> and i want to print like this
[10:16] <knome> i have no idea.
[10:16] <cemunal> can i able to write with evince
[10:17] <knome> i only know evince is not the best app to open gif files.
[10:17] <cemunal> thanks
[11:18] <psycho_oreos> anyone tried getting remote desktop to work? I'm trying the xdmcp + xvnc guide but all I'm getting is a checkered background with a X as mouse cursor. I'm running jaunty and I suspect the issue lies with xdmcp which is part of gdm
[17:46] <TugboatJones> Can somebody please just reassure me that it's worth all this hassle to migrate my files?
[17:49] <moodog> evening
[17:57] <Besogon> 20:57 Moskow time
[19:48] <slworks> Hi all!
[19:49] <slworks> I've got a little problem with the install process of Jaunty...
[19:50] <slworks> during install the installer goes red and says that the step 'installing software' has failed...
[19:51] <slworks> well, i installed anyway, but now the system won't load the lists from the repositories... ( the sources.list was empty, but i wrote in the correct sources )
[19:51] <vidd> slworks, bad cd burn?
[19:51] <slworks> any ideas what i could do to fix it?
[19:51] <slworks> um.. dunno.. could be...
[19:51] <slworks> but i remember that the checksum was right.
[19:52] <slworks> anyhow, the burner is in the office and this laptop i'm writing from is a piece of junk... its burner isn't working.
[19:53] <slworks> any ideas what i could do with the apt lists? it intalls nicely from the cd, but i always get a 404 for the online repositories.
[19:54] <vidd> can you ping your router?
[19:54] <slworks> yes.
[19:54] <slworks> and even any address outside the router.
[19:54] <slworks> even wget works
[20:04] <slworks> uh. i think i got it... but thanks anyway.
[20:04] <slworks> bye guys!
[20:45] <slow-motion> hi
[22:26] <michael> brb
[22:27] <michael> back
[22:28] <michael> ok i have xubuntu and i cant get the sound to work i have a dell laptop i used to have windows how do i get the sound to work?
[22:30] <michael> bye