[00:17] <smoser> hey. harlowja
[00:18] <harlowja> hey yo
[00:20] <harlowja> when u want to go over https://openstacksummitmay2015vancouver.sched.org/event/b52d0c99f65d7713c61524b5a380812b
[00:20] <harlowja> with vice executives
[00:21] <smoser> supyeah.
[00:21] <smoser> i do.
[00:21] <smoser> i had on my todo to bother you about tha ttoday
[00:22] <smoser> thank yo ufor beating me to it.
[00:22] <smoser> can we pick a time in my normal working hours tomorrow ?
[00:22] <smoser> :)
[14:07] <arnaud_orange> hi guys
[14:07] <arnaud_orange> does anyone know which cloud-init configuration I should use to disable pollinate to seed random ?
[14:17] <smoser> arnaud_orange,
[14:17] <smoser> # pollinate hangs without socket timeout if it can't reach network
[14:17] <smoser> random_seed:
[14:17] <smoser>    command: null
[14:17] <smoser> will do it.
[14:17] <smoser> you can make 'command' anything you want.  null is yaml's "None"
[14:17] <arnaud_orange> oh nice
[14:17] <arnaud_orange> let me try that
[14:17] <smoser> but you can make it [/bin/sh, -c, 'echo hi mom']
[14:21] <arnaud_orange> Is there anything else to disable when my VM does not have access to internet, because cloud-init is taking very much time to bring my VM up
[14:22] <arnaud_orange> it's far better with your random_seed configuration, thanks smoser
[14:22] <arnaud_orange> but still taken 178sec to be up
[14:23] <smoser> what datasourc e?
[14:23] <arnaud_orange> openstack metadata
[14:23] <smoser> are you able to pastebin a /var/log/cloud-init.log ?
[14:25] <arnaud_orange> smoser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11096632/
[14:30] <smoser> arnaud_orange, it would appear you lose almost 2 minutes between lines 186 and 187.
[14:31] <arnaud_orange> yep
[14:32] <smoser> i would suggest disabling DataSourceGCE in /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/90_dpkg.cfg
[14:32] <arnaud_orange> I think this is because the VM is not able to access http://metadata.google.internal./computeMetadata/v1/ is not resolvable
[14:32] <smoser> right.
[14:32] <arnaud_orange> what is that?
[14:33] <smoser> inside the image you have to change that.
[14:33] <arnaud_orange> GCE=GoogleCloudengine, right?
[14:33] <smoser> right.
[14:33] <smoser> remove GCE there.
[14:33] <smoser> please file a bug, as such a hang is not intended.
[14:33] <arnaud_orange> ok, if I do that, I won't be able to rely on the classic ubuntu cloud image
[14:34] <smoser> yeah, that sucks. :-(
[14:34] <smoser> file a bug, we can fix it.
[14:34] <arnaud_orange> yep
[14:34] <smoser> and SRU and then you can be happy again.
[14:34] <arnaud_orange> no way to fix it with yaml cloud-config?
[14:34] <smoser> no.
[14:35] <smoser> as this is config that is read before we can get to user-data
[14:35] <smoser> ie, it tells us how to find user-data. :)
[14:35] <arnaud_orange> understand
[14:35] <smoser> you could try to see why dns resolution would time out on that.
[14:35] <smoser> that does seem broken that a dns resolve would block for 120 seconds
[14:35] <smoser> the only networking provided at that point is from the dhcp server
[14:36] <smoser> so your dhcp server is possibly giving a dns server that is not reachable.
[14:36] <arnaud_orange> the dns server configured on the vm is <IP_ADDRESS> (google)
[14:36] <arnaud_orange> but the VM does not have access to internet
[14:38] <smoser> well, that'd seem like a misconfiguration :)
[14:38] <smoser> why is it <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[14:38] <arnaud_orange> this is configured on my tenant network
[14:39] <arnaud_orange> because, when I set a floating IP to my VM, the VM can access internet
[14:39] <arnaud_orange> but the floating IP is not set on startup
[14:39] <arnaud_orange> it's floating between VM
[14:39] <arnaud_orange> don't know if I am clear on that
[14:41] <smoser> right. but it seems like your network is busted still.
[14:42] <smoser> why give someone a dns server that they cannot reach
[14:42] <smoser> i guess so that later when they get a floating ip they can.
[14:42] <arnaud_orange> don't know, ask my cloud provider :p
[14:42] <smoser> who is cloud provider ?
[14:42] <arnaud_orange> cloudwatt
[14:42] <arnaud_orange> french company
[14:42] <arnaud_orange> but I think it might be the same on any openstack based cloud provider
[14:43] <smoser> no
[14:43] <smoser> thats definitely their configuration. and they could definitely give you access to a dns server internally that would dtrt.
[14:43] <smoser> i'd bug them about it.
[15:02] <arnaud_orange> the thing is that I only want my virtual machine to have access to other machines in the tenant, without access to the internet, so not having access a an external DNS is expected
[15:05] <smoser> i'd file a bug with them.
[15:06] <smoser> a.) telling you dns is <IP_ADDRESS> is hacky at best (rather than a dns server they run)
[15:06] <smoser> b.) telling you a dns server is <ANYTHING> that you can't get to is kind of silly/broken
[15:14] <arnaud_orange> ok, I found a way to remove the <IP_ADDRESS>, so a) is not an issue anymore,
[15:14] <arnaud_orange> they provide their own nameserver
[15:14] <arnaud_orange> but, again, my tenant router have only one interface, in the private network
[15:14] <arnaud_orange> so without floating IP, no internet access
[15:15] <arnaud_orange> there is no way to disable every internet request from cloud-init point of view?
[15:15] <arnaud_orange> without modifying the ubuntu image,
[15:15] <arnaud_orange> ?
[15:28] <smoser> well, nto really.
[15:28] <smoser> but if you have dns configured correctly, then the dns should fial
[15:28] <smoser> and it will move on
[15:28] <smoser> quickly
[15:29] <arnaud_orange> you're right
[17:08] <devicenull> 2015-05-12 17:06:07,091 - util.py[WARNING]: Failed to create user foobar
[17:09] <devicenull> would be nice to know why :(
[17:10] <devicenull> oh, I guess adduser failed for some reason
[17:11] <smoser> devicenull, /var/log/cloud-init-output.log maybe
[17:11] <devicenull> yea, that's where I got that error message
[17:12] <smoser> not cloud-init.log
[17:12] <smoser> cloud-init-output.log
[17:12] <devicenull> # less /var/log/cloud-init-output.log
[17:12] <devicenull> yes, that's where that message was!
[17:14] <smoser> well thats not right.
[17:14] <devicenull> turns out it didn't like the 'primary-group' setting I had
[17:14] <devicenull> when the primary-group didn't exist
[17:14] <smoser> log should not be going to -output.log
[17:15] <smoser> oh wait.
[17:15] <smoser> or i guess *its* output, and on warn, it wrote that to stdout


[00:59] <DanaG> argh, curse that NDA on Panda.
[19:59] <robclark> anyone tried mythbuntu on armel?
[20:00] <robclark> mythbuntu-common depend on vnc4server which seems to be MIA on armel..
[20:08] <ogra_cmpc> that strange
[20:08] <ogra_cmpc> http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/ doesnt show up onm the fail to build list
[20:09] <robclark> hmm.. could it have a dependency that failed to build?
[20:10] <ogra_cmpc> thats possible
[20:10] <robclark> it suggests vnc-java which might be missing I suppose.. but all it's dependencies look pretty standard
[20:11] <ogra_cmpc> though if a dep is missing and it was tried to build at all during maverick it should show up as dep-wait (orange) on the list
[20:11] <robclark> hmm
[20:38] <robclark> ohh.. but there is moovida


[11:17] <manowar3> Hi.
[11:17] <manowar3> Anybod xome?
[11:20] <amireldor> shalom xaverim
[11:20] <amireldor> tzafrir, are you @work? I may not bother it so
[11:20] <amireldor> *if
[11:21] <tzafrir> amireldor, yes, I'm at work
[11:21] <amireldor> tzafrir, I will not bother you now. Talk @evening


[09:38] <Spads> ravage: the end of the topic explains what is meant by the beginning, I hope.
[10:01] <ravage> still says RT
[10:01] <ravage> but at least it mentions an email :)
[10:03] <Spads> Yes, it explains what we mean by "use RT".
[14:23] <bG9s> hello - may I ask for an assist on an updated resource for how to create your own repository? not exactly a mirror but thought I'd ask
[17:02] <mert> hello, "tr.archive.ubuntu.com" is extremely and painfully slow. even directory listing is taking more than 50 seconds. is it possible you to change A records of that mirror to point archive.ubuntu.com?
[17:02] <mert> $ curl -o /dev/null -s -w 'Total: %{time_total}s\n'  http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com
[17:02] <mert> Total: 101.663106s
[17:06] <tomreyn> mert: i'm just another user but i can already tell you that your report is appreciated but you'll need to send it to the email address given in the channel /topic
[17:07] <mert> thank you tomreyn, i'll do it.
[17:08] <tomreyn> 👍
[17:27] <Fluor> bG9s, 'reprepro' (package) could help you.
[17:27] <bG9s> neat ty ty
[17:27] <bG9s> will check here shortly
[17:27] <bG9s> Fluor: ty
[17:31] <Fluor> bG9s, for a more manual/dirty solution, look into dpkg-scanpackages / dpkg-scansources
[17:32] <bG9s> manual is nice, just now taking a loowk
[17:51] <smoser> i'm told that others have seen mirror issues? I came looking after my caching-proxy mirror (which i dont really have access to logs for) had a client fail with: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/URqu6kVL/raw
[17:51] <smoser> apt would normally use by-hash, but i think the following line indicates taht didn't work and it fell back:
[17:51] <smoser> Failed to fetch http://my-mirror/path/ubuntu/dists/focal-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.xz  Hash Sum mismatch
[18:02] <tomreyn> i've seen recent reports about what looked like tcp timeout issues with TR and US.archive.ubuntu.com, not hash sum mismatches
[18:02] <tomreyn> smoser: ^
[18:03] <tomreyn> of course those could be due to your local mirror failing to get updates from the origin
[18:07] <tomreyn> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors appears to be mostly good on the first look, https://status.canonical.com/ also
[18:08] <smoser> right, my caching-proxy mirror could have had an issue with its GET and that manifested this way.
[18:09] <smoser> and this woudl be the first time i've ever had an issue other than "Hashsum mismatch" with official mirrors, so absotlutely it could have been our link.
[18:10] <smoser> thanks.
[19:37] <axino> hello all, yes sorry we've had a weird outage on our archive servers but things should be back in shape now
[20:25] <smoser> thanks, axino . the result of this is better for me anyway, now i have 'by-hash=force' which i previously didn't kniow about.


[00:13] <akgraner> poll started :-)
[00:13] <akgraner> everyone should be getting emails within the hour...:-)
[00:15] <akgraner> 267 voters authorized :-)
[00:16] <pleia2> thanks akgraner!
[00:16] <nigelb> .. and voted.
[00:17] <akgraner> pleia2, yw!   Good Luck to everyone!
[00:17] <akgraner> sending email to the mailing list now
[00:30] <akgraner> email to list sent - if anyone is a team member (via LP) with no public email address listed in LP and did not receive a Poll invite please contact me so I can send you the invite to vote
[00:32] <rww> we need to get more candidates for next time around. voting for 4 people for 3 positions always feels like I'm leaving someone out, even though I love all the candidates
[00:34] <pleia2> same number of candidates as last year
[00:35] <rww> I know, I thought the same thing then ;)
[00:35] <pleia2> me too
[00:36] <jledbetter> Ditto. Was hoping more would join after I did :)
[00:40] <jledbetter> Though, at least we had more than the slots.
[00:54] <MichelleQ> Sigh... email fail.  akgraner, would you PM me the poll invite?
[00:57] <akgraner> MichelleQ, email sent...
[00:58] <akgraner> since the poll is not a public poll but limited to the UW LP team members I have to manually add the email addresses..
[01:11] <MichelleQ> I've updated my LP acct., too, so it's got a valid address now
[01:13] <MichelleQ> though it appears, for some reason, that I'm not actually on the UW LP team.
[01:13] <MichelleQ> :-/
[01:13]  * MichelleQ does something about that
[01:16] <MichelleQ> pleia2: thanks.  :-)
[01:16] <pleia2> sure
[01:18] <MichelleQ> I swear I did that once upon a time.  Oh well.
[01:19] <pleia2> yeah, I thought you were on there with the -qimo name
[01:19] <pleia2> but it doesn't show such a name in past users
[01:19]  * pleia2 shrugs
[01:20] <MichelleQ> dunno.  Oh well.  I'm there now. :-)
[01:21] <pleia2> :)
[01:22]  * MichelleQ takes over world, one committee at a time
[01:23] <akgraner> too funny....weren't you there before?  As I have your name from the first election
[01:24] <MichelleQ> It seems as though launchpad ate my U-W membership at some point.
[01:24] <akgraner> just out of curiosity I checked the list from the first election...
[01:25] <akgraner> glad I kept it...:-)  though I am not sure why....  Had to remember the pw I assigned to the file...jeez I need to clean up my home folder, but not tonight....
[01:25] <MichelleQ> I think, perhaps, I should commence drinking.  This isn't the strangest thing that's happened to me today.
[01:26] <MichelleQ> akgraner: yeah, don't start cleaning this late at night- it will lead to something like hard drive replacement for giggles.
[01:28] <akgraner> hey I just learned I can choose between KVM and VirtualBox  in test drive on my new laptop...
[01:28] <akgraner> on the old one I could only use VirtualBox...
[01:28] <akgraner> yay for new knowledge....
[01:28] <MichelleQ> yay for choices!
[01:30] <akgraner> yeah the other machine couldn't do KVM... - not that I understand why one is better than the other (YET) but I am sure by the end of the week I'll know which I prefer
[01:32] <MichelleQ> I need to start building towers for Christmas... it's going to take me three months to get them all built.
[01:32] <pleia2> kvm is faster because it's hardware-based virtualization, but it has a learning curve
[01:32] <pleia2> virtualbox is clicky clicky happy easy :)
[01:33] <pleia2> (I use them both, admittedly using virtualbox when I need something real quick)
[01:33] <akgraner> gotcha
[01:33] <akgraner> I think my Dell hardware was just too old to use the KVM option
[01:33] <pleia2> yeah
[01:34] <pleia2> if your machine is less than 2 years old you have a decent chance of having virtualization, older than that it's unlikely
[01:34] <akgraner> but I still prefer actual hardware to install things on....vs VM however my hopes of my own test lab were dashed today :-(
[01:35] <MichelleQ> :(
[01:35] <akgraner> not that I thought the kids and Pete would give me their machines willingly....
[01:35] <pleia2> lol
[01:35] <MichelleQ> ROFL
[01:37] <akgraner> Though I thought about telling the kids there was a critical update I needed to fix, but they know how to update their own machines so that wouldn't work...but I did think about it
[01:37] <elky> lol
[01:37] <MichelleQ> bwahahah!
[01:37] <elky> you've taught them too much!
[01:38] <elky> Sadly, they're not like cassettes, you can't just rewind them and pretend it never happened :P
[01:38] <akgraner> I know...it's a bit bittersweet...:-/
[01:39] <MichelleQ> I don't suppose they'd believe the Computer Fairies stole them, either, huh?
[01:39] <akgraner> sadly no....
[01:40] <akgraner> but I thought about using the "I'm your mother that's why!" But that's only the break glass for emergency use...
[01:40] <MichelleQ> hahaha, I had to break that one out the other day
[01:41] <akgraner> b/c they say - "You'll always be our mother" insert eye rolls....
[01:41] <MichelleQ> I got "Mommy, that's not a good enough reason."
[01:42] <akgraner> I have also gotten, "That's not a very good counterpoint, you don't debate well!"
[01:43] <MichelleQ> Your children are my children in five years.  This scares me.
[01:43] <pleia2> hehe
[01:44] <akgraner> Oh the conversations between kids and their parents...we encourage critical thinking and backing up your arguments  - it never occurred to me they would use such logic on me...:-/  oops
[01:44] <Cheri703> I didn't like that answer either...
[01:44] <Cheri703> I have always been a "explain the logic behind your request and I'm more likely to go along with it, whether I agree or not" I just want to know that there is a reason for it
[01:45] <MichelleQ> No, son, "because I want to!" is not a valid argument.
[01:45] <akgraner> I once told my daughter stop running in the house - she was 3 or 4 at the time - she stopped and said "I'm not running I am scampering"  I then had to say if you are doing anything other than walking you are wrong...
[01:45] <pleia2> lol
[01:46] <pleia2> man, kids are such trolls :)
[01:46] <MichelleQ> pretty much
[01:46] <akgraner> nods
[01:46] <akgraner> they have great teachers :-P
[01:46] <MichelleQ> Absolutely!
[01:47]  * MichelleQ trolls 'em back
[01:47] <akgraner> same here :-)
[01:49] <akgraner> gotta run - email or PM me if there is an issue with the voting  - laters all
[01:49] <pleia2> later akgraner
[12:31] <akgraner> out of 268 email address I sent voting keys to - 10 of them could not be delivered.  If you feel that your email address listed in LP may be one of the 10 please contact me.  Thanks! :-)
[12:31] <akgraner> s/address/addresses
[17:14] <Dolasilla> ubuntu-it-web
[17:14] <Dolasilla> (sorry wrong window)


[00:38] <TMM> hi all
[00:40] <TMM> I've got a quesion about suspend/resume, I'm not entirely sure it is kernel related though, but it might be. if you suspend with an USB drive attached and mounted with files open, on resume the filesystem is apparently thawed before the device comes back, leaving some fairly undesireable effects :) I'm not entirely sure if it affects all usb removeable devices, but at least my SD slot suffers from that problem. I want to locate exactly what
[00:40] <TMM>  goes wrong, but I haven't had any luck
[00:40] <TMM> So, I ask here :) I hope that is OK
[01:17] <TMM> so, normal external usb devices present the same problem
[03:56] <peppy> hello all
[03:58] <peppy> Have a question, Why is it
[03:58] <peppy> Ubuntu?
[03:58] <peppy> I mean why that name?
[04:59] <tuxmaniac> :)
[08:50] <sioux> hi :-D
[08:51] <sioux> no one is on line?
[08:52] <sioux> just a quick and simple info
[08:52] <sioux> i need
[08:57] <sioux> fabbione: are you sleeping?
[13:34] <rambo3> What gcc version is kernel compiled with?
[17:55] <matjan> hi, i have some troubles after the hardy update of this morning... can i report that here?
[18:25] <matjan> Mar  2 12:37:56 quadpc kernel: [    0.000000] WARNING: NR_CPUS limit of 1 reached.  Processor ignored.
[18:32] <Nafallo> no. you need to file a bug on launchpad.
[18:47] <matjan> ok
[19:00] <mjg59> matjan: You're running the -386 kernel?
[20:15] <lovetotouch> could someone help me build a modified usbmon for use with the stock kernel in Gutsy?
[21:12] <Solarion> anyone around?
[23:16] <Kano> hi, is the dkms maintainer here


[06:49] <didrocks> good morning
[07:36] <jibel> Salut didrocks
[07:36] <jibel> bien rentré ?
[07:37] <didrocks> salut jibel! Pas de problème, un petit retard de 15 minutes, mais à part ça, tout niquel, et toi ?
[07:38] <jibel> didrocks, aucun probleme, juste 25 min de retard sur le 2e train.
[07:47] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers!
[07:47] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN, bien reposé ?
[07:48] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[07:48] <oSoMoN> oui, bien reposé, et pas d’ubuflu à l’horizon, donc tout va bien
[07:48] <oSoMoN> et toi?
[07:49] <didrocks> jibel: unsure if this is known, I just installed latest pending cosmic image, no GNOME Shell in ubiquity-only mode
[07:49] <didrocks> (to test the session transition for communitheme snap -> ubuntu)
[07:49] <didrocks> oSoMoN: très bien, pas encore bien reposé, mais ça va venir :)
[07:50] <didrocks> la température joue au yoyo ici: vendredi il a fait 31°C, samedi 26°C, dimanche 32°C, et aujoud'hui 19°C (au plus chaud)!
[07:53] <willcooke> Morning all
[07:54] <didrocks> morning willcooke
[07:56] <willcooke> good journey home didrocks?
[07:57] <jibel> didrocks, I think that's what Trevinho fixed the other day. the link to the theme was ubuntu.css instead of Yaru/...
[07:57] <didrocks> willcooke: uneventful, so good :) Yourself? Sounds like you had to take a cab…
[07:57] <jibel> didrocks, this is fixed but must be released
[07:57] <jibel> Hi willcooke
[07:57] <didrocks> jibel: ah, and so, the shell then fail to load, didn't fallback to default Shell theme…
[07:58] <didrocks> might be, unsure about its behavior in that case
[07:58] <willcooke> didrocks, yeah, bit of a pain.  No trains running home when I got to the train station so I had to get a taxi or a hotel
[07:58] <willcooke> moin jibel
[07:58] <didrocks> and no battery ofc :p
[07:59] <willcooke> ha yes, luckily I had my portable charger, but it's not exactly pocket sized
[07:59] <willcooke> but it did get me up and working again
[07:59] <didrocks> yep
[08:02] <Laney> moin
[08:03] <didrocks> hey Laney
[08:04] <oSoMoN> good morning willcooke, Laney
[08:14] <didrocks> oSoMoN: FYI, migration works (fallback to ubuntu) in gdm from communitheme snap session once the files are moved
[08:14] <didrocks> if interested: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/3.30.0-0ubuntu3
[08:15] <oSoMoN> didrocks, nice, thanks!
[08:15] <didrocks> yw, thanks for raising this! :)
[08:32] <Laney> hey oSoMoN didrocks
[08:32] <Laney> what ho
[08:34] <oSoMoN> Laney, I haven't managed to get the release team to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/britney/hints-ubuntu-libreoffice/+merge/355442 yet, in case you can take a look
[08:39] <Laney> jbicha: http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/n/network-manager/cosmic/amd64 not sure retries were required there; the output was quite clear
[08:58] <Laney> oh, it looks like I just ignored oSoM___oN there - we talked in ubuntu-release instead ;-)
[09:16] <andyrock> good morning!
[09:17] <oSoMoN> buon giorno andyrock
[09:28] <willcooke> hi andyrock
[10:06] <andyrock> hey oSoMoN willcooke
[10:42] <dupondje> Anyone on Ubuntu 18.10 with Wayland that has a crashing firefox for WhatsApp web? :)
[10:43] <dupondje> want to know if its just me :)
[10:43] <dupondje> kernel: [14226.159318] Web Content[26749]: segfault at 1 ip 00007f26e20c2511 sp 00007ffc1e68b570 error 4 in libxul.so[7f26df375000+3c54000]
[11:03] <oSoMoN> dupondje, I can't immediately test to confirm, but please file a bug report
[11:11] <Laney> it's fine for me
[11:49] <GunnarHj> Hi tjaalton, can you please look at bug #1791367. Would be good if you could upgrade xkeyboard-config to 2.24.
[11:50] <GunnarHj> tjaalton: In Debian, I mean. Then I can prepare the merge in Ubuntu.
[11:50] <tjaalton> GunnarHj: jcristau tried that for debian, but there were issues with the signed tarball
[11:51] <tjaalton> the key was not known by any service iirc
[11:54] <GunnarHj> tjaalton: Oh. I can put it in a PPA (bypassing Debian) to confirm that the upgrade addresses the bug in question.
[11:57] <tjaalton> if you mean the airplane mode, it's a single (simple) commit in git
[11:58] <GunnarHj> tjaalton: I'm thinking of first making an attempt with the whole thing. Patching that commit would be plan B. :)
[12:00] <GunnarHj> tjaalton: After all, 2.24 was released in June, so possible issues ought to have been identified by now.
[12:53] <k_alam> Trevinho: Hi, Can you merge and then make a release ? https://code.launchpad.net/~khurshid-alam/unity-greeter/update-logo-for-cosmic/+merge/355273
[13:35] <GunnarHj> tjaalton: I made a test build of xkeyboard-config at https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/+archive/ubuntu/xkeyboard-config
[13:50] <jbicha> Laney: sorry, bad habit, I'm used to nm autopkgtest being flaky
[14:13] <tjaalton> GunnarHj: ok, cool
[14:28] <GunnarHj> tjaalton: The .orig source file was not preserved, though (unlike previously), but AFAICT the build was successful otherwise.
[14:35] <tjaalton> GunnarHj: you didn't have the source tarball available when you built it
[14:58] <Laney> 😅
[14:58]  * Laney found the gvfs problem
[15:38] <GunnarHj> tjaalton: Actually I had, but it was of the format .tar.bz2. Replaced it with the .tar.gz one, and now it seems to behave as expected.
[16:07] <tjaalton> GunnarHj: yes, because it's source format 1.0
[16:19] <GunnarHj> tjaalton: You always learn new things. :/ Is that something you are willing to sponsor, or should we wait for Debian?
[16:55] <tjaalton> GunnarHj: sure
[17:04] <oSoMoN> have a good evening everyone
[17:39] <willcooke> night all
[19:43] <tkamppeter> Someone around?
[19:44] <tkamppeter> I have a problem with gnome-control-center. In the VPN config window the green "Apply" button is always grayed out and I cannot change my settings.
[19:45] <tkamppeter> Also my W-Fi status is not shown any more under the icons in the top right corner and in the menu there.


[00:01] <rpadovani> Pricey, thanks :-)
[00:27] <IdleOne> Why does the IRCC have to request a account name change on the cloak?
[01:00] <Pici> IdleOne: we don't.
[01:00] <IdleOne> Pici: so why did you "ircc" have to request/approve the cloak change?
[01:01] <Pici> IdleOne: because it was a change of a cloak.
[01:01] <IdleOne> right but the part that changed was the part used for the account name
[01:01] <Pici> cloaks don't need to contain the account name.
[01:02] <IdleOne> but that is usually how ubuntu/member cloaks are, with the account name
[01:02] <Pici> Correct.
[01:02] <IdleOne> So again, why did it need approval?
[01:02] <Pici> What if someone changed their account name to something unfamily friendly
[01:03] <Pici> its a valid account, but not something that we'd really like to advertise as being Ubuntu related.
[01:03] <IdleOne> Pici: These are ubuntu members. They have signed the CoC. if they did that I would hope that there membership status gets reviewed.
[01:03] <Pici> IdleOne: It is freenode's polic that every affiliated cloak change requires the GC's approval.
[01:03] <Pici> (unless they are removing the cloak from themselves)
[01:04] <IdleOne> There we go. that is all I wanted to know. it is not an Ubuntu IRC policy.
[01:04] <IdleOne> thank you :)
[06:03] <MooDoo> hello all
[06:03] <Unit193> Jello all.
[06:11] <IdleOne> yellow all
[06:12] <MooDoo> smart arses :D
[06:13] <IdleOne> toot toot
[06:26] <Unit193> *Gasp* How did he know?!
[07:21]  * jussi shoots IdleOne in the foot