[04:36] <NetworkNoob> Hello
[04:37] <NetworkNoob> Anyone have any idea what this means?: i2c i2c-1: sendbytes: NAK bailout.
[15:56] <dmj_s76> sforshee: Hey, I'll try to test the package to fix #1686815 soon.  I might need to bring in some new hardware due to the nature of the bug.
[15:57] <sforshee> dmj_s76: thanks
[15:58] <dmj_s76> And apologies for the delayed response.  I've had my head deep in some hidpi work for the last couple weeks.
[15:59] <sforshee> dmj_s76: np, I knew you were insterested in getting that fixed so just wanted to make sure you saw the comment on the bug
[16:00] <dmj_s76> yeah, thanks for the reminder :)
[21:30] <manjo> kamal, how does the zesty kernel even build.. you should be getting compile errors on iommu.c .. due to incompatible types passed
[21:38] <manjo> kamal, anyways.. it is a trivial patch but I wanted to make sure I am not on crack.. so checking with developer 1st before I submit any patch
[22:00] <kamal> manjo, zesty appears to build fine afaict -- what compile errors specifically?
[22:12] <manjo> kamal, do you have a zesty tree ?
[22:12] <kamal> manjo, yes
[22:13] <manjo> kamal, go to include/linux/iommu.h and look for extern void iommu_get_resv_regions(struct device *dev, struct list_head *list);
[22:14] <manjo> kamal, then go to drivers/iommu/iommu.c line #242
[22:14] <manjo> you see the issue ?
[22:16] <kamal> manjo, my line #242 isn't very interesting:
[22:16] <kamal>  240 static ssize_t iommu_group_show_resv_regions(struct iommu_group *group,
[22:16] <kamal>  241                                              char *buf)
[22:16] <kamal>  242 {
[22:16] <kamal>  243         struct iommu_resv_region *region, *next;
[22:16] <kamal>  244         struct list_head group_resv_regions;
[22:16] <manjo> so iommu_get_resv_regions() takes struct device * ...
[22:17] <manjo> but I think what is being passed in struct device
[22:19] <kamal> manjo, since my line #242 is that ^^, I suspect that we're not actually looking at the same thing
[22:19] <kamal> I'm looking at 605d269 (HEAD -> master, tag: Ubuntu-4.10.0-20.22, origin/master, origin/HEAD) UBUNTU: Ubuntu-4.10.0-20.22
[22:19] <kamal> what are you looking at?  :-)
[22:20] <manjo> kamal, oops I know what is going on .. I have a few patches applied ! crap
[22:20] <kamal> *cough*
[22:20] <kamal> ;-)
[22:20] <manjo> kamal, some of the patches I backported changed the declarations .. omg .. sorry
[22:21] <manjo> kamal, I guess I will report this upstream .. zesty is good linux-next is broken
[22:21] <kamal> manjo, oh, I've known you long enough to know that when you come asking whether or not you're on crack . . .  well . . .   ;-)
[22:21] <manjo> lol.. fscking Friday
[22:22] <kamal> manjo, np man.  have a good weekend.
[22:22] <manjo> kamal, you too.. btw still roasting ?
[22:23] <kamal> manjo, COFFEE, you mean!    ;-)   yep -- its the only way to go.
[22:24] <manjo> yeah ☺
[22:44] <manjo> kamal, thanks for the help .. I fired off a patch upstream .. lets see what they asay


[09:37] <jupiterste> all the folders and files below the in the directory
[09:38] <Cine> I really wanna watch the new Serenity trailer... but my computer if foiling my plans...
[09:38] <Seveas> jupiterste, example: chmod -R a+r somefolder will make all folders and files under somefolder readable by anyone
[09:38] <Seveas> (including somefolder itself)
[09:38] <Seveas> i think that that's what you are looking for :)
[09:39] <jupiterste> Seveas: cool, i'm new to this, do you know how i would change the folder's user, group and permissions with chmod?
[09:39] <jupiterste> from what I can see, chmod changes the permissions but not users?
[09:39] <chimaera> jupiterste: chown
[09:39] <Seveas> jupiterste, do you want to change the owner?
[09:39] <Beano> Internet Died :(
[09:39] <Seveas> or just the owners permission?
[09:39] <jupiterste> Seveas: Both
[09:39] <Seveas> jupiterste, i think the best move is to read the manpages for chmod and chown
[09:39] <amichai> Beano, how?
[09:40] <Seveas> they describe it in detail :)
[09:40] <jupiterste> Seveas: OK thanks, i didn't even know about chown :)
[09:40] <blueyed> Seveas, have you looked at the strace?
[09:40] <Beano> so - whats the command to start ropping a stream with streamripper? :P
[09:40] <Seveas> blueyed, i can't
[09:40] <Seveas> it's on your pc
[09:40] <Seveas> and i cannot access that
[09:40] <Seveas> Beano, read the manpage for streamripper :)
[09:41] <Beano> Seveas, there isnt one :P
[09:41] <Seveas> ah :)
[09:41] <Beano> man streamripper doesnt bring anything up
[09:41] <ThomasWinwood> Any idea what I need to modprobe, Seveas?
[09:41] <Beano> i guess ill just look on the wiki or something
[09:41] <Seveas> Beano, then browse through /usr/share/doc/streamripper :)
[09:41] <d0n_muDdaH> wiki very helpful
[09:41] <Seveas> ThomasWinwood, no clue at all, never used USB wifi
[09:41] <Beano> thanks :)
[09:41] <blueyed> lol, Seveas, sorry: http://thequod.de/tmp/firefox.strace.txt.gz
[09:42] <Cine> I'm still having trouble with quicktime in firefox, if anyone has any suggestions...
[09:42] <stanton> What is the preferred method to disable ipv6 in Ubuntu?
[09:42] <chimaera> TheMuso:
[09:42] <chimaera> sry.
[09:43] <will> Cine: have u read the starter guide?
[09:43] <Cine> yup, I've installed all of that
[09:43] <KaiL> stanton: why disable it?
[09:43] <Seveas> blueyed, strace looks normal
[09:43] <Seveas> can you describe the error
[09:43] <Beano> hmm README.gz
[09:43] <Cine> all I get when I try to watch trailers off of quicktime is a black box with (no picture) inside
[09:43] <Beano> that looks promising :P
[09:43] <stanton> KaiL: It slows down dns lookups thereby slowing down internet access in general.
[09:44] <Cine> very frustrating
[09:44] <blueyed> Seveas, have you taken a look at 21:17:02 and the 30 seconds after that. It does not react then.. when I click into the address bar or search box.
[09:44] <will> Cine: ahh yes, that is known to fix it, use something like mozplugger
[09:45] <ringmauer> howto extract *.rar files in ubuntu?
[09:45] <blueyed> Seveas, once it's through that 30 seconds it works normally.
[09:45] <t3rror> no one here using tightvnc?
[09:45] <blueyed> ringmauer, apt-get install unrar
[09:45] <chimaera> ringmauer: install rar and rar x <file>
[09:45] <Cine> will: I installed mozplugger... didn't make a difference
[09:45] <guruff> what does it mean: /lib/cpp fails sanity check ??????????
[09:45] <ringmauer> yes i have installed unrar but it still doesnt work
[09:45] <blueyed> ringmauer, there's also unrar-nonfree.. just search for rar in Synaptic.
[09:46] <ringmauer> ringmauer@ubuntu:~$ unrar -x /home/ringmauer/Download/Elvis Presley - 50 Greatest Love Songs CD 1 of 2 (Full Album)(1).rar
[09:46] <ringmauer> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[09:46] <ringmauer> ringmauer@ubuntu:~$
[09:46] <blueyed> "unrar" does not like RAR 3.x format, ringmauer.
[09:46] <whitewindow> hi @all i have a problem with my dvb-T card i load the module with  modprobe saa7134
[09:46] <whitewindow>  and saa7130/34: v4l2 driver version 0.2.12 loaded
[09:46] <chimaera> i prefer rar for the other versions tend to have problems with rar archives created with current releases of rar..
[09:46] <whitewindow> in kernel log
[09:46] <ringmauer> blueyed, but-nonfree (doesnt that mean that it cost $$)
[09:46] <will> Cine: you might need to configure it, with linux you cant just put it in and 'go' (unfortunatly)
[09:46] <whitewindow> but how can i see my dvb card now ?
[09:46] <blueyed> ringmauer, put the filename in double quotes, like unrar "filename with spaces"
[09:46] <Cine> ah, how do I go about configureing it then?
[09:46] <t3rror> i was hoping that someone was familiar enough with tightvnc to explain how i can remove the authorization process
[09:47] <Beano> .gz - gunzip?
[09:47] <will> Cine: umm i will look that up
[09:47] <whitewindow> can anyone help me please ?
[09:47] <Beano> WhiteRabbit, what you need help with
[09:47] <Beano> too many users :(
[09:47] <whitewindow> mhh
[09:47] <Beano> brb
[09:47] <ringmauer> like, $ unrar -x file:///home/ringmauer/Download/Gorillas%20-%20G%20SLIDE.rar file:///home/ringmauer/Download/Gorillas%20-%20G%20SLIDE.rar
[09:48] <blueyed> ringmauer, don't know exactly about non-free status of unrar-nofree.  As another one said, there's also "rar" (use it with -x). Search in Synaptic..
[09:50] <guruff> ringmauer; you have problem with unrar ?
[09:50] <Valentin-> shale: not worth talking about :)
[09:50] <ringmauer> guruff, yes
[09:50] <yahalom> what is the fglrx file to apt-get and is it the latest?
[09:50] <black_Nightmare> any of you know if multiply 604e's would be supported?
[09:50] <guruff> ringmauer; had to unrar <- don't know what's that; try using rar -e filename; u can find rar in ubuntu rep
[09:51] <tritium> yahalom, apt-cache search fglrx to look for it
[09:51] <will> Cine: read this: gedit /usr/share/doc/mozplugger/README.Debian
[09:51] <ringmauer> guruff. ok ill give it a try
[09:51] <black_Nightmare> or no one have any idea?
[09:51] <will> Cine: that might be your problem
[09:52] <mikerobi> it seems the mozilla-thunderbird package uses a different profile directory than the official mozilla releases
[09:52] <ringmauer> guruff, rar cant handle rar 3.0 archives
[09:52] <Cine> ah, awesome...
[09:52] <guruff> ????????????????/
[09:52] <will> Cine: tell me if it works
[09:53] <Cine> so whats the command to delete in the terminal?  sudo remove or something like that?
[09:53] <bur[n] er> guruff: sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree (assuming you have universe/multiverse repos)
[09:53] <bur[n] er> Cine: rm
[09:53] <Cine> ah
[09:53] <Cine> thanks
[09:53] <blueyed> Cine, be careful.. :)
[09:53] <will> Cine: hang on
[09:53] <Cine> lol... well I'm just wanting to delete this one file
[09:54] <Cine> oh wait
[09:54] <Cine> its in my home directory
[09:54] <guruff> bur[n] er;  i don't need unrar i have rar, that works; i was asking ringmauer if he has prob with unrar cos i know unrar sux
[09:54] <guruff> anyhow
[09:54] <Cine> don't need root anyway
[09:54] <Cine> can do it from the gui
[09:54] <will> Cine: what is your user name?
[09:54] <bur[n] er> oh
[09:54] <shale> anyone here use sphinx2 ?
[09:54] <ulx> he thats funny..just connecting to answer a rar question
[09:54] <Cine> lucas
[09:55] <ulx> how can i integrate the rar package in archive manager??
[09:55] <dataw0lf|w> Wow.
[09:55] <will> okay, well do a search from Places -> Search for files.
[09:55] <dataw0lf|w> Linux has really progressed on the end-user market when users don't know how to remove files
[09:55] <ThomasWinwood> Can anyone help me get my Actiontec USB wireless card working? I've installed the driver using ndiswrapper but the wireless connection is not showing in iwconfig. dmesg reports the USB device being detected, and ndiswrapper reports "driver present".
[09:55] <will> Cine: remeber to select your home dir
[09:55] <Cine> yeah, I found it... deleted it...
[09:55] <Cine> and still no worky...
[09:56] <Cine> sheesh...
[09:56] <will> Cine: restart firefox
[09:56] <qweqw> all the linux channels are filled with clueless computer-illiterate numbskulls, these days
[09:56] <Cine> duh, did that... :)
[09:56] <will> qweqw: like me!
[09:56] <qweqw> possibly
[09:56] <Cine> I'm only Linux illiterate...
[09:56] <shale> qweqw, its just that the computer world is so big, people can be experts in one area of it but dumb as shit in other areas.
[09:56] <shale> give 'em a break :)
[09:56] <will> Cine: im lost! ahhhhh
[09:57] <Cine> hehe
[09:57] <Cine> thanks for the help anyway will
[09:57] <qweqw> you only need general knowledge
[09:57] <will> Cine: post a message on www.ubuntuforums.org
[09:58] <qweqw> what happened to the days when RTFM was cried from the rooftops?
[09:58] <yahalom> who was the guy with quicktime? where did u get the plugin?
[09:58] <qweqw> you had to earn your way into linux el33tdom
[09:58] <ThomasWinwood> Can anyone help me get my Actiontec USB wireless card working?  I've installed the driver using ndiswrapper but the wireless connection is not showing in iwconfig. dmesg reports the USB device being detected, and ndiswrapper reports "driver present".
[10:00] <] BreliC[> then i worked in a unix environment only and they were pricks
[10:00] <tosti> hello
[10:00] <qweqw> that was kind of crude..
[10:00] <bur[n] er> ThomasWinwood: we heard you the first time
[10:00] <qweqw> damn, my manners
[10:00] <bur[n] er> if someone knows, they'll speak upo
[10:00] <] BreliC[> there are people who think they are above others everyone, even in windowsland
[10:01] <Cine> RTFM, Read the Fucking Manual?
[10:01] <ThomasWinwood> People don't read up to see what was said an hour ago.
[10:01] <guruff> i'm trying to compile gaim and got: lib/cpp fails sanity check - any idea what that means ?!?!?!?!
[10:01] <qweqw> when linux becomes popular, all the true g33ks will switch to something more esoteric
[10:01] <bur[n] er> ThomasWinwood: people aren't gonna help people who just spam shit either ;)
[10:01] <ThomasWinwood> And someone who joins after I say it will never know I said it.
[10:01] <bur[n] er> bsd!
[10:01] <xtat> omfg tru gee3sz uses bsd omgomg
[10:02] <thundrcleeze> Perhaps not, ThomasWinwood, but that was 2 minutes ago, not an hour ago.
[10:02] <] BreliC[> qweqw, there will always be an underworld
[10:02] <ThomasWinwood> A lot can happen in two minutes.
[10:02] <bur[n] er> i don't think people will switch from linux... linux is free and open source, that's what attracts people... not the esotericness
[10:02] <qweqw> i wonder how two open-source projects could compete at all
[10:02] <slappy15> jello
[10:03] <Choubaka> qweqw: with a different set of features?
[10:03] <qweqw> not much competition, considering they can take whatever code they want
[10:03] <tosti> how to change font and keymap at startup for al text consoles?
[10:05] <slappy15> xfontsel
[10:06] <yahalom> hey anyone know if the 2.6.11 kernel is supported yet?
[10:07] <tosti> slappy15: i ment text consoles. tty1, tty2, etc. :)
[10:07] <yahalom> anybody?
[10:08] <ice_1963> nop
[10:08] <ice_1963> =)
[10:08] <shale> yahalom, i think if i did apt-get dist-upgrade and it upgraded then it would be
[10:08] <shale> but my problem is i cut corners
[10:08] <kikov> anybody know the solution to the "Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o":  No symbols found
[10:08] <kikov> problem?
[10:09] <decaf> is this a problem?
[10:09] <kikov> decaf: it prevents me starting Xorg...
[10:09] <kikov> it's a problem for me
[10:09] <Cine> SO CLOSE!!!  Now I just don't have any sound...
[10:09] <decaf> kikov:  it seems you have another problem
[10:10] <yahalom> shale, not sure?
[10:10] <shale> well like is said, if apt-get installs then i'd say its supported
[10:10] <yahalom> shale, good point
[10:11] <kikov> decaf: well.. that problem was sudden.. I was working with KDE and everything get out
[10:11] <TechLord> what's the eaisest way to mount smb shares thru nautilus
[10:11] <Seveas> not mounting
[10:11] <bur[n] er> u can't
[10:11] <Seveas> but browsing through smb://server/
[10:11] <bur[n] er> TechLord: u gotta do "mount -t smbfs blahblahblahblah"
[10:11] <Seveas> mounting can be done with smbmount, not with nautilus
[10:11] <Beano> Seveas, so ... i read the readme .. and it tells me to type ./configure - which does nothing
[10:11] <Seveas> bur[n] er, don't do that, always use the smbmount wrapper
[10:12] <Beano> is there any specific place im suposed to type it
[10:12] <bur[n] er> Seveas: yeah?  that tells me to use mount -t smbfs
[10:12] <bur[n] er> :P
[10:12] <Seveas> Beano, in the toplevel sourcedit
[10:12] <bur[n] er> This command is designed to be run from within /bin/mount by giving
[10:12] <bur[n] er> the option '-t smbfs'. For example:
[10:12] <bur[n] er>   mount -t smbfs -o username=tridge,password=foobar //fjall/test /data/test
[10:12] <Seveas> bur[n] er, no smbmount calls mount
[10:12] <Beano> Seveas, wheres that likely to be?
[10:12] <yahalom> anyone here using amd athlon XP
[10:12] <yahalom> ?
[10:12] <Seveas> so if you call smbmount with no options you get the mount error
[10:13] <ThomasWinwood> Can anyone help me get my Actiontec USB wireless card working? I've installed the driver using ndiswrapper but the wireless connection is not showing in iwconfig. dmesg reports the USB device being detected, and ndiswrapper reports "driver present".
[10:13] <bur[n] er> say what you want Seveas, you're wrong ;)
[10:13] <Seveas> bur[n] er, not at all
[10:13] <Seveas> bur[n] er, read the manpage of smbmount please
[10:13] <bur[n] er> eh
[10:13] <KaiL> ThomasWinwood: try to ask google for "USB WLAN debian" or "USB WLAN ubuntu"
[10:13] <bur[n] er> no thanks ;) mount -t smbfs works wonders
[10:13] <Seveas> Beano, the folder that contains the configure file :)
[10:14] <tosti> help me please... how to change (at startup) font and keymap on all tty's?
[10:14] <Beano> hmm i dunno where to look for that tbh :P
[10:14] <Seveas> Beano, usually in the same folder as the INSTALL file
[10:14] <shale> hey i have a weird thing... a raid5 sata array doesn't mount on boot, altho its in /etc/fstab and after the machine is booted i can do mount -a and it mounts... any idea where i can look to fix that?
[10:14] <schlurchz> Hi folks. Installing Hoary on a spare partition, the installer didn't detect my Debian system, so I choose not to install a bootloader. How should I configure lilo within Debian to boot into Ubuntu?
[10:15] <shale> i didn't see anything in syslog but i'm not sure where ubuntu keeps the bootup logs.
[10:15] <spawn> http://www.betanews.com/article/Bill_Proposes_Ending_Free_Weather_Data/1114178376
[10:15] <spawn> does this mean I won't be able to use Weather Report on GNOME anymore?
[10:15] <Seveas> shale, dmesg or /var/log/kern.log
[10:16] <schlurchz> I've tried a basic setup and got a kernel panic (unable to mount root fs). Can this be udev-related?
[10:16] <shale> Seveas, thanks thats what i needed
[10:16] <tosti> can abyone help me please... how to change at startup font and keymap for all tty's?
[10:17] <shale> so much of learning this is just knowing (and remembering) where everything is stored
[10:17] <Seveas> shale, my guess: sata modules are loaded after mount -a is issued oslt
[10:17] <schlurchz> The Debian system is Woody, BTW
[10:17] <mactiny> hi everyone
[10:17] <tommi^> Hi. It would seem that the /home partition is created with a newer software that comes along with ubuntu. The bootup process stops and complains the version of e2fsck (and unsupported features). Everything thought works fine even if I just continue it with ctrl-d. Can this harm my filesystem and how do I fix / ignore the complaint?
[10:17] <joe|code> Hi mactiny
[10:18] <schlurchz> Anything wrong with this from lilo.conf:
[10:18] <schlurchz> image=/mnt/ubuntu/vmlinuz
[10:18] <schlurchz>     append="root=/dev/hda10"
[10:18] <schlurchz>     label=ubuntu
[10:18] <schlurchz>     root=/dev/hda10
[10:18] <mactiny> what are the plans for the next version of ubuntu
[10:18] <Fackamato> schlurchz: why do you have the append section
[10:19] <HiddenWolf> Anyone here a grub-expert?
[10:19] <schlurchz> obviously the "append" line was me trying to fix it :-)
[10:19] <shale> what do you spose this means: Apr 23 17:39:12 localhost kernel: EXT3-fs warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended
[10:19] <Seveas> HiddenWolf, not expert, but i know a bit
[10:19] <GnuKemist> HiddenWolf not an expert by far but what seems to be the prob?
[10:20] <Seveas> mactiny, http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BreezyGoals
[10:20] <schlurchz> I guessed it could be /dev/hda10 not recognized by the 2.6 kernel using udev?
[10:20] <schlurchz> I know nothing 'bout udev though
[10:20] <HiddenWolf> I've got a /dev/sda with linux on it, which from grubs menu.lst seems to be /dev/hd0 - Now I've added a windows disk, and it's /dev/hda, and I want to add an option to boot to windows
[10:21] <woodwizzle> I tried to wget www.foo.com\*.jpg but wget doesn't accept wildcards. is there another way to achieve this?
[10:21] <HiddenWolf> I've tried running grub-install and update-grub, and adding it manually, but it won't boot.
[10:21] <Seveas> HiddenWolf, booting to windows is simple:
[10:21] <Seveas> title Windows
[10:21] <Seveas> root (hd0,0)
[10:21] <Seveas> savedefault
[10:21] <Seveas> makeactive
[10:21] <Seveas> chainloader +1
[10:21] <schlurchz> BTW, shouldn't the installer detect an existing Linux installation?
[10:22] <Seveas> HiddenWolf, example: http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/29
[10:22] <HiddenWolf> Seveas, grub seems to see my /dev/sda as hd0,
[10:22] <Seveas> HiddenWolf, the try hd1,0
[10:23] <HiddenWolf> Seveas, I get an unknown file type error
[10:23] <GnuKemist> HiddenWolf Seveas the only thing I want to add is to make sure Windows is indeed in hd0,0
[10:23] <HiddenWolf> more confusingly, if I do grub-install --recheck /dev/sda, it lists the sda disk as hd1, and the hda as hd0
[10:24] <GnuKemist> HiddenWolf you got a SCSI drive?
[10:24] <HiddenWolf> one sata, one ide
[10:24] <yahalom> hey how do i create a new channel?
[10:24] <deejoe>  /join #newchannelname
[10:24] <Seveas> yahalom, type /join #channelname
[10:24] <HiddenWolf> yahalom, /j <channel>
[10:24] <yahalom> and then
[10:24] <yahalom> how do i register it?
[10:25] <lucidblue> is there a way I can install ubuntu off of the harddrive
[10:25] <itsmeee> chanserv
[10:25] <lucidblue> ?
[10:25] <Seveas> yahalom, /msg chanserv help
[10:25] <yahalom> thanx
[10:25] <itsmeee> type: /msg chanserv register channel password
[10:25] <yahalom> thanx
[10:25] <ThomasWinwood> Ugh. This is so annoying.
[10:26] <Seveas> HiddenWolf, have you tried poking around in the grub command line on boot
[10:26] <shale> i'm getting errors on an ext3 filesystem (sda1)...  fsck.ext3 sda1
[10:26] <shale> e2fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)
[10:26] <shale> fsck.ext3: No such file or directory while trying to open sda1
[10:26] <shale> The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
[10:26] <shale> filesystem.
[10:26] <Seveas> to find out what grub thinks
[10:26] <shale> what is that all about?
[10:26] <ThomasWinwood> All I'm being told is "use other hardware".
[10:26] <Andril> hello all
[10:26] <yahalom> everyone is allowed to start a channel right?
[10:26] <Seveas> yahalom, yes
[10:26] <Andril> anyone able to install Beagle?
[10:26] <joe|code> does ubuntu come with an application for changing the grub splash image?
[10:26] <Nalioth> yahalom, knock yourself out
[10:26] <schlurchz> No lilo expert here? :-(
[10:26] <Zerboxx> Hey, is there a way to stop CD's from playing when you insert them?
[10:27] <yahalom> how fun
[10:27] <yahalom> lol
[10:27] <Seveas> Andril, ubuntu packages for beagle will be available within a few weeks
[10:27] <HiddenWolf> Seveas, yes?
[10:27] <Seveas> please be patient
[10:27] <GnuKemist> ThomasWinwood didn't get the beginning...  what are you trying to do?  Mount an USB device?
[10:27] <Nalioth> Andril, whats a beagle?
[10:27] <Andril> Seaveas: you are awesome sir!
[10:27] <Seveas> GnuKemist, USB wifi
[10:27] <Seveas> Nalioth, it's an awesome search tool
[10:27] <Nalioth> ah
[10:27] <Cine> anyone know why I wouldn't be getting sound with VLC when streaming quicktime?
[10:28] <lucidblue> guyz, I need to know how to install this from the harddrive... any one know how or the link of how?
[10:28] <GnuKemist> Seveas ThomasWinwood do you have rights to /dev/nvram?
[10:28] <Seveas> Nalioth, http://www.gnome.org/projects/beagle/
[10:28] <Andril> Nalioth: check it out http://www.gnome.org/projects/beagle/#running
[10:28] <GnuKemist> Nalioth it is also a breed of dog... ;)
[10:28] <ThomasWinwood> GnuKemist: Doesn't exist.
[10:29] <GnuKemist> ThomasWinwood modprobe nvram
[10:29] <Cine> its weird... under Audio Track its set as disabled everytime it starts up... I check track 1 thinking that will fix it and its still silent...
[10:29] <Cine> very strange
[10:29] <lucidblue> seveas, do you know how to install ubuntu off of the harddrive with disk?
[10:29] <ThomasWinwood> GnuKemist: And?
[10:29] <CarlK> what options do I need in fstab so my user account can write to a fat fs partition?
[10:30] <GnuKemist> lucidblueI remember reading you could install Debian this way using Knoppix...  Ubuntu should also work?
[10:30] <GnuKemist> ThomasWinwood check the permission again
[10:30] <Andril> anyone have the Industrial icon theme?
[10:30] <Nalioth> andril Seveas is beagle that diffecult to compile from source?
[10:30] <yahalom> how do i apt-get install several apps at once?
[10:30] <GnuKemist> ThomasWinwood if you see it, 1/2 of the battle is won
[10:30] <Beano> Seveas, about fucking time :D thanks for all youe help :)
[10:30] <Andril> Nalioth, for me yes - I am looking foward to the package
[10:30] <saber_> yahalom, just likst them: apt-get install app1 app2 app3
[10:30] <shale> apt-get install app1 app2 app3
[10:30] <lucidblue> gnukemist, i've never worked with debian, and I have no burnable cd's...
[10:31] <yahalom> with commas?
[10:31] <ThomasWinwood> GnuKemist: Owned by root.
[10:31] <yahalom> or no need?
[10:31] <GnuKemist> lucidblue ohh
[10:31] <Nalioth> Andril, i usually compile my own stuff
[10:31] <ThomasWinwood> But I see it.
[10:31] <GnuKemist> ThomasWinwood not sure if the best solution but I chmod 666 /dev/nvram...  it works for me
[10:31] <Zerboxx> Hey, is there a way to stop CD's from playing when you insert them??
[10:31] <lucidblue> brb
[10:32] <ThomasWinwood> GnuKemist: And?
[10:32] <Andril> Nalioth, I am a new *nix user - so it'll take me a while
[10:32] <Nalioth> andril Seveas after reading the install page, i think i'll wait also .. .. ..<lazy>
[10:32] <GnuKemist> ThomasWinwood once again, not sure what you are trying to accomplish... but at least you have access to nvram now which I believe was part of the problem?
[10:33] <Andril> Nalioth, yep it seems to a bit troublesome
[10:33] <ThomasWinwood> The problem was not seeing a wireless connection even when ndiswrapper loaded the driver.
[10:33] <yahalom> is it me or are ubuntu's servers slower now?
[10:33] <Andril> any help on locating the Industrial Icon theme - anyone?
[10:34] <XandriX> k
[10:34] <redPanda> hi all
[10:34] <GnuKemist> ThomasWinwood I'm assuming you modprobed ndiswrapper and installed the appropriate drivers?
[10:34] <Andril> redPanda, whasssup!
[10:34] <caldwell> is there an apt package for UML?
[10:34] <redPanda> Question..
[10:35] <GnuKemist> caldwell get Dia?
[10:35] <caldwell> dia?  wth is dia?
[10:35] <HiddenWolf> Seveas, just tried rebooting with both the hd0,0 options and the hd1,0 option. - hd0,0 gives me "unsupported bla" error, hd1,0 gives me "unknown filesystem type" error
[10:35] <GnuKemist> ThomasWinwood what does iwconfig [wireless device]  give you?
[10:35] <HiddenWolf> seveas, hd0,0 is my /dev/sda, hd1,0 is my /dev/hda windows disk I want to boot into
[10:35] <GnuKemist> caldwell UML app for Linux
[10:36] <caldwell> GnuKemist: thanks
[10:36] <GnuKemist> caldwell np
[10:37] <redPanda> every time I boot into Ubuntu I see warning:- VFS: can't find ext3 filesystem on hdb1.  Is this much of a problem?
[10:37] <HiddenWolf> redpanda, no harmless
[10:38] <caldwell> GnuKemist: dia - a diagram drawing program
[10:38] <GnuKemist> caldwell well, not a full blown Visio-like app  ;)
[10:38] <caldwell> GnuKemist: I was referring to UML "User-Mode-Linux"
[10:38] <caldwell> *lol*
[10:38] <GnuKemist> caldwell hehehe
[10:39] <Zerboxx> Anyone know of a good audio tag editor?
[10:39] <yahalom> what do i type in to get the commands for chan op?
[10:39] <Nalioth> Zerboxx, EasyTag?
[10:39] <GnuKemist> caldwell doesn't Gnome come with one installed already in Ubuntu?
[10:39] <yucek> easytag
[10:39] <Zerboxx> Nalioth: I'll give it a look, thanks
[10:39] <Nalioth> Zerboxx, as easily as apt
[10:39] <caldwell> GnuKemist: what does user-mode-linux have to do with Gnome?
[10:39] <guruff> anyone know how to compile stuff ? i have just a Makefile.am Makefile.in couple of c files and header files ??? how to compile this thing ???
[10:39] <Beano> anyone know how to stop streamripper ripping? :P
[10:40] <Zerboxx> Nalioth: Done and done :D I love apt
[10:40] <redPanda> thanks HiddenWolf.  Why does the warning appear?
[10:40] <caldwell> GnuKemist: google "user mode linux"
[10:40] <ucu30c> pls help
[10:40] <ucu30c> Die folgenden Pakete haben nichterfllte Abhngigkeiten:
[10:40] <ucu30c>   xfce4-panel-dev: Hngt ab: libstartup-notification0-dev soll aber nicht installiert werden
[10:40] <ucu30c> E: Kaputte Pakete
[10:40] <HiddenWolf> redpanda, becaused your /dev/hdb isn't ext3, and it seemss to expect that
[10:40] <HiddenWolf> Any grub experts here?
[10:41] <GnuKemist> caldwell already did it before...  Gnome doesn't have anything to do with UML but I thought there was something installed by default with Ubuntu
[10:41] <redPanda> Afaik the filesystem is reiserfs.
[10:42] <Reece> can sum1 help mer
[10:42] <Reece> *me
[10:42] <GnuKemist> ucu30c try connecting to #ubuntu-de
[10:42] <yahalom> Reece, what u need man?
[10:42] <ucu30c> GnuKemist, they cant solve it
[10:42] <Reece> does ubuntu work on low-spec machines?
[10:42] <yahalom> Reece, how low?
[10:42] <ucu30c> GnuKemist, its about broken pkgs
[10:43] <Reece> well
[10:43] <Reece> 32mb ram
[10:43] <GnuKemist> ucu30c but it seems to me you need someone who can speak German?
[10:43] <Reece> 1.5 gig hard drive
[10:43] <Reece> er...
[10:43] <Reece> dunno about the processor
[10:43] <Reece> its just an old laptop i had lying around
[10:43] <ucu30c> GnuKemist, not really i just want to install xfce4-panel-dev and i get that error message (in german ..)
[10:43] <GnuKemist> Reece tried Damn Small Linux? =)
[10:44] <joe|code> Can anyone tell me what repository has grubconf?
[10:44] <Reece> i see
[10:44] <yahalom> Reece, damn small linux would work, but i think ubuntu would to, can anyone back me up on that?
[10:44] <Reece> well
[10:44] <Reece> i will try ubuntu
[10:44] <GnuKemist> yahalom not sure what the system requirements are
[10:44] <Reece> if it doesnt work
[10:44] <AstralJava> Reece: RAM is a bit low, dunno if it will install. HDD space is enough, and I've installed it into an old PII running at around 300MHz. What you need to do is choose 'expert' when it prompts for choices.
[10:45] <GnuKemist> yahalom but it MAY work...  very slugish though
[10:45] <AstralJava> Then answer 'no' when it asks to download more programs from the internet.
[10:45] <Reece> ok
[10:45] <yahalom> GnuKemist, i saw them somwhere not sure where
[10:45] <KaiL> 1,5GB HD?
[10:45] <Reece> yes
[10:45] <KaiL> that's quite low..
[10:45] <GnuKemist> yahalom lemme Google for it
[10:45] <Reece> i do know that
[10:46] <Reece> thats the whole point of not putting windows on there
[10:46] <TotallyUber> ah, ./configure says:  configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check how do i fix that
[10:46] <KaiL> Reece: I'd say every modern system needs more
[10:46] <aroman> hello people...
[10:46] <KaiL> esp. more RAM and maybe more disk space
[10:46] <aroman> just a quick question.
[10:47] <AstralJava> Reece: Check this out: http://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html
[10:47] <aroman> How does Ubuntu handle mono packages? what versions are included, etc?
[10:47] <yahalom> Reece, u need to use xfce i think
[10:47] <GnuKemist> aroman definitely not the latest ones
[10:47] <TotallyUber> ?
[10:47] <yahalom> Reece, gnome will be too heavy
[10:47] <panjhy_> hi
[10:47] <yahalom> Reece, or fluxbox
[10:47] <AstralJava> If I recall correctly the base install only requires some 400MB of HDD space.
[10:48] <GnuKemist> Reece DSL with Fluxbox would do the trick
[10:48] <yahalom> Reece, or even IceWM but get xfce
[10:48] <aroman> GnuKemist: hmm okay...
[10:48] <GnuKemist> aroman I have it installed but it is version 1.0.x
[10:48] <KaiL> AstralJava: that page is (sorry) rubbish
[10:48] <GnuKemist> aroman did you have a specific question?
[10:48] <tsume> should state on the wiki to signup as a registered linux user ;)
[10:49] <aroman> GnuKemist: well I was wondering about mono 1.1.x series since they are recommended over the 1.0.x series
[10:49] <tsume> I seen the counter 7 years ago, but never signed up :/
[10:49] <HiddenWolf> Anyone here proficient on the topic of grub?
[10:49] <tsume> until today :)
[10:49] <ThomasWinwood> GnuKemist: All relevant ndiswrapper drivers have been installed.
[10:49] <tsume> HiddenWolf: grub likes messing up
[10:49] <KaiL> they use another window manager instead of gnome to save some disk space and maybe RAM too, but install OOo...
[10:49] <tsume> HiddenWolf: use lilo ;)
[10:49] <HiddenWolf> tsume, tell me about it
[10:49] <aroman> GnuKemist: I run Gentoo atm and I'm not sure if I should switch, considering I run a LOT of mono-related things and do a lot of mono development
[10:49] <tsume> lilo: can you boot my computer for me? :P
[10:50] <GnuKemist> aroman the "bleeding edge" version should be lots of fun to work but it hasn't been packaged AFAIK
[10:50] <tsume> aroman: you poor guy
[10:50] <GnuKemist> aroman I also run Gentoo on my AMD64 but don't have Mono since the current version doesn't have  the runtime
[10:50] <aroman> tsume: and why is that may I ask?
[10:51] <GnuKemist> ThomasWinwood what about iwconfig [device]
[10:51] <tsume> aroman: mono is not very stable yet
[10:51] <kompulsive> can anyone help me with getting bootable CDs to finally bootup again after i've installed ubuntu onto a HD partition? it skips them and just loads ubuntu.
[10:51] <aroman> tsume: are you sure? runs VERY stable here...
[10:51] <ThomasWinwood> iwconfig shows three devices - lo, eth0 and sit0 (?!).
[10:51] <tsume> aroman: I'm sure.
[10:51] <nakata> kompulsive: in your computer BIOS set it to boot to CDROM first.
[10:51] <GnuKemist> kompulsive did you change your BIOS not to boot of the cd-rom?
[10:51] <AstralJava> KaiL: Why so?
[10:51] <tsume> aroman: and novell stole away the mono for bsd :(
[10:51] <KaiL> running OOo with 32MiB RAM is totally hopeless
[10:51] <aroman> tsume: okay... which version did you run last?
[10:51] <Andril> i keep having apps close by them self
[10:52] <aroman> 0.8? :P
[10:52] <tsume> aroman: the current release, and it made a big fat segfault on me
[10:52] <AstralJava> That might be true. And as I recall, they do say on that page that you should have more than 32MB.
[10:52] <aroman> tsume: really? did you compile yourself?
[10:52] <Zerboxx> Is it possible to stop CD Player from autoplaying?
[10:52] <GnuKemist> ThomasWinwood doesn't seem to be detecting your card... USB, isn't it?
[10:52] <tsume> aroman: yes, with gcc 3.4
[10:52] <AstralJava> But I forget, it's been a while.
[10:52] <redPanda> Does anybody know how to configur KDE so that it's dektop icons don't appear on my Gnome desktop?
[10:52] <kompulsive> yes, my BIOS is set to boot from CD
[10:52] <tsume> aroman: I wasn't very happy
[10:52] <KaiL> AstralJava: even with 256MiB on a K6-2 it takes around 10min to start
[10:52] <aroman> tsume: I'm running mono and all the mono-related things compilef from svn with gcc-3.4... rock solid :/
[10:52] <aroman> compiled*
[10:53] <nakata> redPanda: that's a Gnome issue
[10:53] <aroman> lol
[10:53] <aroman> well then... I guess I must be going :P
[10:53] <redPanda> is it a problem with Gnome?
[10:53] <aroman> I think I might switch to ubuntu... who knows.. maybe..
[10:53] <GnuKemist> aroman how about a HOWTO for us?  ;)
[10:53] <tsume> kmaynard: are you in TN?
[10:53] <tsume> aroman: its decent..
[10:53] <aroman> GnuKemist: well, if I get to switch to ubuntu.. sure :)
[10:53] <aroman> well my parents' computer runs hoary..
[10:54] <GnuKemist> aroman I have F-Spot and Blam installed in Ubuntu
[10:54] <KaiL> for Linux the CPU doesn't matter that much (not to say doesn't matter at all)
[10:54] <aroman> before, it was running windows... and I got complaints all the time..
[10:54] <aroman> guess hoe many I get now :P
[10:54] <aroman> like.. NONE
[10:54] <aroman> hehe
[10:54] <GnuKemist> aroman been there, done that
[10:54] <aroman> ;)
[10:54] <aroman> well
[10:54] <KaiL> but the RAM ist VERY VERY important - so if you have <128MiB, forget Linux+X
[10:54] <AstralJava> KaiL: Well, you start it once, and keep it up as long as the comp is on. Make coffee and take the dog out for a walk in the mean time. :)
[10:54] <aroman> perhaps in about 2 weeks when I finish my exams...
[10:54] <GnuKemist> aroman sounds good to me
[10:54] <holycow> don't listen to what KaiL is telling you
[10:54] <KaiL> and forget every other moden multiuser OS (Win2k, XP) too
[10:54] <aroman> later folks.. been nice talking to you and thanks for the info! ;)
[10:54] <holycow> thast complete crap
[10:55] <holycow> 128 megs is fine for most basic workloads
[10:55] <kmaynard> tsume: nope
[10:55] <holycow> also ignore his comment about other multiuser oses
[10:55] <holycow> all of those run fine on 128 as well
[10:55] <KaiL> holycow: and starts to swap at the second you open a xterm
[10:55] <Zerboxx> Any help with stopping CD Player's autoplay?
[10:56] <holycow> infact for windows it makes no difference how much or how little ram  you have because windows aggresively swaps REGARDLESS of how much ram you have
[10:56] <holycow> KaiL, so what, thats what a swap file if for
[10:56] <kmaynard> does smbmount exist in hoary?
[10:56] <KaiL> holycow: swapping on a hd common for that time?
[10:56] <holycow> KaiL, i think you mean to say that ideally you would like to have more than 128, yes, but 128 is workable in a great majority of workloads
[10:56] <nix000> how does one install a minimal ubuntu for a server machine ?
[10:56] <KaiL> not to mention you need every byte on the hd for other data..
[10:56] <holycow> KaiL, what about swap? windows swaps no matter what
[10:57] <holycow> even linux swaps when it has to
[10:57] <holycow> its a fact of life, swapping does not preclude a system not being adequately usefull
[10:57] <thenuke> KaiL: and I use linux with X on p133&64megs and it swaps about a few megs
[10:57] <thenuke> KaiL: so if you dont know what you are talking about, you should not talk
[10:57] <KaiL> I know, that Windows swaps like hell
[10:57] <shale> filesystem.
[10:58] <KaiL> thenuke: 1 week ago I've updated my system here - was a K6-2/500 with 256MiB RAM
[10:58] <shale> does anyone ever get a bad superblock error when running e2fsck on a ext3 partition?
[10:59] <KaiL> thenuke: and I have tried often enough around 2000 to install Linux on Pentium 1 systems
[11:00] <randabis> anyone know of a good hex editor?
[11:00] <KaiL> the X server always eate to much RAM
[11:00] <KaiL> way to much...
[11:00] <TotallyUber> how do i add to the menus in gnome? (like add a new catagory or launcher in the drawer)
[11:00] <holycow> KaiL, shush
[11:00] <holycow> :)
[11:01] <mrk182> hello!!...help me for wireless card on ubuntu 5.04------------------->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
[11:01] <TotallyUber> mrk182, ok, what kind
[11:01] <KaiL> somewhere here is a i486, 24MiB RAM - with XFree 3.3.6 and all totally lowend software - even that is close to be unusable
[11:02] <KaiL> Problem: if Linux starts to swap, it's getting VERY slow.
[11:02] <qweqw> no way that will run on 24mb of ram
[11:02] <holycow> KaiL, i don't disagree that more ram is better, all my 32 bit systems have max ram configs
[11:02] <holycow> however gnome and x will snuggly fit into 47 megs on boot
[11:03] <holycow> i can comfortably work in open office and firefox simultaneously on 128 megs ram
[11:03] <holycow> 128 doesn't seem like a lot, but in actuality it is
[11:03] <KaiL> oh, your GNOME uses -3MB?
[11:03] <TotallyUber> is there an italian channel for ubuntu
[11:03] <KaiL> interesting :)
[11:03] <KaiL> TotallyUber: #ubuntu-it
[11:03] <holycow> KaiL, no, you just haven't a clue about what your talking about
[11:03] <kompulsive> is there anyone i can get help from about ubuntu bullying its way over any bootable CD i put into my drive?
[11:03] <TotallyUber> KaiL, thanks
[11:04] <qweqw> on an old machine like that, you should install tinyX or something similar
[11:04] <KaiL> holycow: oh, you want to explain, why here the system with a naked X-Server has 50MB used
[11:04] <CarlK> kompulsive - bios not booting from CD?
[11:04] <holycow> becuse you have no idea what your doing?
[11:04] <KaiL> ...and if you run KDE or xfce doesn't matter
[11:04] <djones> qweqw, agreed, and a light weight window manager, ie not GNOME
[11:05] <KaiL> or better doesn't matter much
[11:05] <HiddenWolf> Anyone here proficient on the topic of grub?
[11:05] <KaiL> 8MB difference
[11:05] <qweqw> definitely not GNOME
[11:05] <qweqw> man
[11:05] <KaiL> holycow: and now you want to explain, how to save many RAM..?
[11:05] <holycow> KaiL, just shutup, you clearly haven't ever done the test
[11:06] <holycow> just quit making stuff up and your golden
[11:06] <qweqw> it would be torture just launching a program from a menu
[11:06] <KaiL> holycow: now what?
[11:06] <holycow> now what what?
[11:06] <holycow> i've said my piece
[11:06] <KaiL> do you want to troll or do you want to explain, how to save RAM?
[11:07] <holycow> it's important for noobs not to listen to you becaue you are giving them wrong information
[11:07] <KaiL> I know what I have seen - and by god, I've worked with more than enough totally outdated computers...
[11:07] <qweqw> the blind leading the blind..
[11:07] <goldfish> hey guys, are the nvidia drivers from apt-get, the latest nvidia drivers out?
[11:07] <djones> kompulsive, ubuntu can't override a bootable CD if your BIOS is set to boot from CD first.  Ubuntu's bootloader lives on the HDD, and so the HDD would have to be read...
[11:07] <holycow> you are free now to go on as much as you like about nonsense
[11:07] <qweqw> the newest version is 7XXX
[11:07] <KaiL> goldfish: yes
[11:07] <goldfish> thanks
[11:08] <ThomasWinwood> Anyone able to help with this USB wifi card?
[11:08] <KaiL> ThomasWinwood: asked google?
[11:08] <ThomasWinwood> Nothing helpful.
[11:08] <tsume> heres a qhacky question, is there a runtime for C# applets in browser? ;)
[11:08] <djones> KaiL, shut-up
[11:08] <homer> woot i got my 446 ubuntu disks today
[11:08] <homer> my mom was angry :\
[11:09] <holycow> tsume, thankfully no
[11:09] <homer> she thought i bought all of them rofl
[11:09] <holycow> :)
[11:09] <thechitowncubs> does anyone use Beagle?
[11:09] <KaiL> djones: hm?
[11:09] <JaGWiRE```> homer
[11:09] <JaGWiRE```> you ordered 446 ubuntu cd's?
[11:09] <tsume> holycow: well its better than the crap called java
[11:09] <JaGWiRE```> What? You giving em to every friend and preson you met? Or just everyone in your company?
[11:09] <KaiL> homer: how big is that box?
[11:09] <tsume> holycow: PythonNet + mono ;)
[11:09] <holycow> tsume, *cough* bullshit *cough*
[11:09] <holycow> :)
[11:09] <holycow> come back when you have some libraries to use
[11:09] <busfahrer> homer: We want pictures.
[11:10] <tsume> holycow: you are full of it ;)
[11:10] <homer> KaiL, there's 5 boxes
[11:10] <holycow> tsume, your the one using c#
[11:10] <holycow> -_-
[11:11] <busfahrer> homer: How long did they take and where do you live?
[11:11] <tosti> help me, please...
[11:11] <kompulsive> djones: i know my machine(s) and how the BIOS works. the BIOS is infact set to boot from CD first and does check for bootable discs. the problem is that it doesn't boot into them or give me the option to boot from them at all before starting the ubuntu load-up.
[11:11] <tosti> help me please... how to change (at startup) font and keymap on all tty's?
[11:11] <homer> busfahrer, Texas and it took about 4 months rofl
[11:11] <busfahrer> lol
[11:11] <tsume> holycow: not yet actually
[11:11] <homer> i completely forgot about them
[11:11] <yahalom> what is the gaim with webcam support called?
[11:11] <kakalto> does anyone have any ideas of why my sound stopped working, even though it was working before?
[11:11] <holycow> tsume, i'm buggin ya mostly, all cool, use .net for all i care
[11:12] <kakalto> I don't remember changing anything to do with sound, so why has it screwed up?
[11:12] <tsume> holycow: well, if I could plug in python code using C#, it would be nice
[11:12] <djones> kompulsive, what I'm suggesting is that it isn't something ubuntu can effect, as it lives on the HDD and is loaded after the BIOS checks for a bootable CD.
[11:12] <kompulsive> kakalto: sorry, i don't have a clue what the problem is, but don't you love the kinda problems that literally come out of nowhere for no apparent reason at all?
[11:13] <CarlK> kompulsive -I have seen that
[11:13] <kakalto> kompulsive, absolutely :(
[11:13] <holycow> tsume, i never got the fixation with .net and c#, you can plug python code with jython
[11:13] <holycow> tsume, but i guess some people preffer chinese food, others korean
[11:13] <holycow> *shrug*
[11:13] <CarlK> kompulsive - I think it is caused when the CD drive can't read the CD in time and the BIOS goes on
[11:13] <HiddenWolf> Can anyone here help me with grub, it doesn't listen to my device.map
[11:13] <tsume> holycow: right, because korean food is _nasty_
[11:13] <TotallyUber> wow
[11:13] <kakalto> CarlK, depending on what kind of problem it is
[11:14] <kakalto> CarlK, mine's to do with sound
[11:14] <kakalto> any
[11:14] <djones> HiddenWolf, you might have better luck with your grub question in #debian
[11:14] <CarlK> kakalto?
[11:14] <TotallyUber> the WG111 from netgear includes a file on its CD called ndis5... guess what its for?
[11:14] <kakalto> no program can play sound, except under windows
[11:14] <ThomasWinwood> Damn Windows.
[11:14] <kakalto> under linux, something thoroughly screwed up
[11:14] <KaiL> TotallyUber: it's a Windows driver? ;)
[11:14] <ThomasWinwood> Just bluescreened on me.
[11:14] <HiddenWolf> djones, I'll try that, thanks
[11:14] <TotallyUber> ;)
[11:15] <ThomasWinwood> KaiL: Google returned nothing useful.
[11:15] <kompulsive> the netadmin-nazi at the community college i attend lovvvvvvved it when i popped an ubuntu live disc into one of the new computer lab PCs earlier today.
[11:15] <holycow> kompulsive, what happened?
[11:15] <TotallyUber> kompulsive, did he love it more when you typed cfdisk?
[11:15] <kakalto> I found a generic guide to configuring sound on the net yesterday, but it didn't fix my sound issue
[11:16] <CarlK> kompulsive - then he is lamer than my local public library's admin ;)
[11:16] <TotallyUber> kakalto, can i have a link to that guid?
[11:16] <kakalto> TotallyUber, sorry, I'm not sure if I could find it
[11:16] <kakalto> give me a few moments
[11:16] <TotallyUber> kakalto, k np
[11:17] <kakalto> TotallyUber, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26567&highlight=linux+sound
[11:17] <CarlK> kompulsive - I spent over 4 hours tryiung to do anythig to a bunch of win98 boxes with internet access.  bios was protected, no boot from CD or floppy, couldn't run an exe, etc
[11:17] <holycow> kompulsive, did you actually manage to get online before getting caught?
[11:17] <kakalto> I love kde's history sorting :D
[11:18] <kompulsive> holycow: not much but comedy happened. i booted into ubuntu flawlessly while students with an average level of computer knowledge at surrounding computers got the nervous, "oh my god i don't think he's suppose to be there!"-look on their face.
[11:18] <shopeonarope> is this a good place to come for help with network probelms?
[11:18] <CarlK> kompulsive - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SmartBootManagerHowto
[11:19] <CarlK> if you can get that on a floppy, then that will boot your CD
[11:19] <CarlK> also, I think you can make it a grub option
[11:19] <CarlK> may need to do something with memdisk
[11:19] <kompulsive> holycow: did a portscan on a small section of the network then commenced to send a msg to craig(network admin at the school)'s machine that included "cottoneyed joe" playing at fullblast.
[11:19] <holycow> kompulsive, just out of curiosity, did you get online?  did you manage to mount the windows hd?
[11:19] <blueyed> I have to use pppoeconfig everytime after reboot. Here is my /etc/network/interfaces: http://paste.husk.org/3127 Ideas, please?
[11:19] <holycow> just curious how 'lax' they are :)
[11:19] <shopeonarope> my network device is no longer configured how can i fix it
[11:20] <holycow> kompulsive, rofl nice
[11:20] <kakalto> I suppose I'll just post on the forums
[11:20] <shopeonarope> i try to enable it in kde and it won't
[11:20] <kakalto> and hope for an answer
[11:20] <kompulsive> holycow: yes, but i only ventured within the network to joke with craig. we are cool as hell so he knew it wasn't a malicious attack. technically i could've been suspended from the college.
[11:21] <kompulsive> carlk: thanks for the link.
[11:21] <holycow> heh
[11:21] <shopeonarope> can anyone help the new guy?
[11:21] <CarlK> your;re welcom
[11:21] <kompulsive> it mounted the machine fine though, i was surprised.
[11:21] <kompulsive> shopeonarope: what's he need help with?
[11:22] <shopeonarope> my onboard network card isn't working anymore in ubuntu
[11:23] <kompulsive> holycow: he's pretty laid back and didn't mind the cotton-eyed joe song. nothing like the time i hit 'em with the ole' "goatse.cs" link. i think that'll always be everyone's favorite.
[11:23] <shopeonarope> it stopped working after during a boot up linux did some sort of HDD fixing
[11:23] <holy_cow> shopeonarope, funny you mention that
[11:23] <shopeonarope> why
[11:23] <holy_cow> i had a reiser glitch last night
[11:23] <kompulsive> disclaimer: if you don't know about the evil, evil "goatse.cx" prank, don't check the url.
[11:23] <holy_cow> your not the first person today to mention that
[11:24] <holy_cow> are you running reiser by any chance?
[11:24] <XandriX> does anyone here know mako personaly ???
[11:24] <shopeonarope> i tink so
[11:24] <XandriX> or jdub ?
[11:24] <Levander> Any good gnome panel applets to visuallynotify me of new mail?  And to display the sender &/ subject of that mail?
[11:24] <Burgundavia> XandriX, why?
[11:24] <ubuntu_> hi all
[11:24] <Burgundavia> Levander, mail-notifier
[11:24] <KaiL> ..."if you need reiserfsck, start searching for your backup"
[11:25] <XandriX> Burgundavia, i talked to him yesterday (mako) and when he awnserd i wasent there and i wantes to tell him to check his mail and i also wnated to talk to him about other stuff
[11:25] <selinium> Has anyone here used redhat in the past?
[11:25] <yahalom> what do most users use? ext3 or reiserfs?
[11:25] <XandriX> *wanted and i missed him ...
[11:25] <shopeonarope> i tried to enable my network card and it enables then disables
[11:25] <Levander> Burgundavia: there's an ubuntu package that contains mail-notifier?
[11:25] <Burgundavia> XandriX, he is in the middle of major conference right now. Very very busy
[11:25] <TotallyUber> bah
[11:25] <KaiL> selinium: long long ago, why?
[11:25] <yahalom> selinium, fedora 3
[11:25] <Burgundavia> Levander, yes, do a search for it
[11:25] <XandriX> ooooooooo
[11:25] <TotallyUber> someone help me with muine plz
[11:25] <holy_cow> i use reiser today was my first blip, i don't know if its an hardware or software issue yet
[11:25] <Burgundavia> selinium, RH 8
[11:25] <TotallyUber> it wont play
[11:25] <XandriX> Burgundavia, and jdub ?
[11:25] <Burgundavia> yahalom, ext3
[11:25] <holy_cow> didn't loose anything
[11:26] <TotallyUber> it just closes itsself
[11:26] <Burgundavia> XandriX, all Ubuntu/Canonical people are
[11:26] <yahalom> Burgundavia, why?
[11:26] <hybrid> hello all
[11:26] <kompulsive> anyone here fairly experienced in the ninjuitsu art of intrusion detection? i've got a few questions.
[11:26] <XandriX> crap
[11:26] <XandriX> what conference is it
[11:26] <Levander> Burgundavia: well, did a packages.ubuntu.com search, nothing came back
[11:26] <Burgundavia> XandriX, for that matter most of the major community members are too
[11:26] <cusco> hi does anyone here that uses gtkpod is able to put .ogg files into their ipods?
[11:26] <Burgundavia> XandriX, the Breezy planning conference
[11:26] <XandriX> where is it held ??
[11:26] <Burgundavia> yahalom, ext3 is default and it is stable
[11:26] <selinium> Hi all, I have a client that wishes to put a wifi system on an old redhat 7.3 system. They do not wish to upgrade (can't think why?) Do i just need to persuade them to install Ubuntu, or can I get wifi to work on it?
[11:26] <shopeonarope> how do i fix my network card?
[11:27] <kakalto> what's the command to look at all the devices connected to your computer?
[11:27] <djones> HiddenWolf, you probably shouldn't mention ubuntu in #debian, they're a little sensitive about the branching.
[11:27] <Burgundavia> XandriX, this one is in Aussie, but the previous one was Spain
[11:27] <yahalom> Burgundavia, point take :)
[11:27] <XandriX> will there ever be one in canada
[11:27] <kakalto> anyone?
[11:27] <yahalom> selinium, get them to install ubuntu :)
[11:27] <Burgundavia> XandriX, there will never be one in the states
[11:27] <blueprism> hey anyone that could point me to a website containing a tutorial how to install apache and php and mysql on ubuntu ?
[11:27] <XandriX> canada
[11:28] <Burgundavia> kakalto, what kind of devices?
[11:28] <XandriX> and why not in the states ?
[11:28] <kakalto> blueprism, google?
[11:28] <Burgundavia> XandriX, long history
[11:28] <kakalto> Burgundavia, sound
[11:28] <XandriX> and canada ???
[11:28] <martin> hallo
[11:28] <olorin> blueprism: sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server php4
[11:28] <Burgundavia> XandriX, don't see why not
[11:28] <XandriX> k
[11:28] <selinium> blueprism: www.ubuntuguide.org
[11:28] <XandriX> id like to know i am in canada lol
[11:28] <Burgundavia> kakalto, system->admin-->device manager
[11:28] <Burgundavia> XandriX, Victoria BC
[11:28] <kakalto> Burgundavia, thankyou, even though I don't use gnome, I get the idea
[11:29] <XandriX> Ile Perroy Quebec
[11:29] <XandriX> *Perrot
[11:29] <Burgundavia> XandriX, there is one dev from Canada
[11:29] <XandriX> who ?
[11:29] <Levander> Burgundavia: says mail-notifier isn't in hoary: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3882.html
[11:29] <selinium> Burgundavia Kail yahalom: Would replacing redhat with ubuntu cause any problems? I am fairly new to Linux. THey are using Redhat for some tills in a shop.
[11:29] <nydust>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY 1234
[11:29] <Burgundavia> bradb, he works on launchpad
[11:29] <abood> guys, i wana ask if the ubuntu had a proplem with the internet connection, because its connect for about 15 min and it gets disconnected i tried to up the ipv6 n ip n pon the dsl restarting network and wont work, unless it connects by itself after couple of mins, any idea about this ?????
[11:29] <djones> kakalto, lsmod might do the trick.
[11:29] <XandriX> k
[11:29] <selinium> nydust: OOOPS :)
[11:29] <Burgundavia> Levander, I used something out of the repos in the past
[11:29] <kakalto> djones, that's what I was looking for :)
[11:29] <djones> nydust, woops! ;)
[11:29] <TotallyUber> anyone here use muine?
[11:29] <kompulsive> selinium: "figure it out yourself. that's what your 'client' is paying YOU for afterall, isn't it?"
[11:30] <TotallyUber> its segfaultin
[11:30] <Levander> Burgundavia: it was in warty
[11:30] <Levander> Burgundavia: not hoary, according to that link anyway
[11:30] <tony> hi
[11:30] <djones> nydust, 1234 is what I use on my breifcase
[11:30] <Burgundavia> Levander, mail-notification is in the repos
[11:30] <ThomasWinwood> I got it working! :D
[11:30] <selinium> kompulsive: Sadly, when I say client, I mean the girlfriends fathers client! He just asked the question
[11:30] <kompulsive> selinium: just kidding, that's a response i got back when i was a gentoo n00b once. but, on the real, definately show them ubuntu in action and i think it'll convince them on it's own.
[11:30] <SiRrUs> hello
[11:30] <hybrid> hi
[11:31] <ThomasWinwood> I switched the USB card for a wireless Ethernet card.
[11:31] <HiddenWolf> djones, can you do anything to help me?
[11:31] <TotallyUber> anyone?!
[11:32] <xMaximex> Is there a rescue mode with the installation cd ?
[11:32] <hybrid> when will breezy developement resume?
[11:32] <Burgundavia> xMaximex, type rescue at the prompt
[11:32] <hybrid> lol
[11:32] <djones> HiddenWolf, I see everyone is doing a good job of ignoring you question :)
[11:32] <Levander> Burgundavia: okay, thanks! I'm trying to install and get running now...
[11:32] <Burgundavia> hybrid, it has already started. Mostof the devs are at the Breezy planning conf right now
[11:32] <xMaximex> Burgundavia, that doesn't work
[11:32] <hybrid> XandirX: how old are you?
[11:32] <djones> hiddenwolf: is windows the only partition on hda?
[11:32] <kompulsive> selinium: if he's ignorant enough (the client) to somehow have the preference of sticking with redhat while he hires someone else to deal with an issue it has, you'll be able to use the "redhat is no more, here's the new bigger, better, client" ploy.
[11:32] <maltje> hi tony
[11:32] <HiddenWolf> djones, yes
[11:33] <tony> yo
[11:33] <Burgundavia> xMaximex, what is the issue?
[11:33] <TotallyUber> who can help withj muine?
[11:33] <hybrid> Burgundavia: when will they be done with the conf?
[11:33] <Burgundavia> hybrid, April 30
[11:33] <selinium> kompulsive: :)  Ubuntu is may first foray into the land of linux. I don't even boot the Windows system anymore! I suppose the question really is if changing from redhat to ubuntu would cause any problems.
[11:33] <xMaximex> Burgundavia, i dont remember ... let me try again .. brb
[11:33] <selinium> kompulsive: cheers for the pointer!
[11:33] <hybrid> Burgundavia: so they wont really start up untill then?
[11:34] <Burgundavia> hybrid, they are planning the next release, then the serious hacking will begin
[11:34] <tony> how can i set my resolution on everytime i reboot?
[11:34] <kompulsive> selinium: STAYING in redhat will cause problems in my opinion. it's "discontinued" if you will.
[11:34] <XandriX> cananyone ship me a cigar
[11:34] <Burgundavia> tony, it should just do it, what is it doing?
[11:34] <hybrid> Burgundavia: ok ty
[11:34] <djones> hiddenwolf, i've always had to reinstall grub when i had a problem
[11:34] <hybrid> XandirX: how old are you? i bet i am younger
[11:34] <tony> it set is to to 1280*960
[11:35] <HiddenWolf> djones, purge it, you mean?
[11:35] <TotallyUber> who uses muine?
[11:35] <cusco> hi... how can I install transcode?
[11:35] <Burgundavia> TotallyUber, I do
[11:35] <tony> but on reboot it's changed to 1900*?
[11:35] <selinium> kompulsive: Redhat is dead, long live fedora? or red hat is dead, totally dead?
[11:35] <XandriX> 15 soon 16
[11:35] <XandriX> u ?
[11:35] <kompulsive> burgundavia: ....how do you like Breeze? it looks pretty spiffy. (you're talking about the macromedia conference software, right?)
[11:35] <TotallyUber> Burgundavia, can you help me then? mind if i message you?
[11:35] <hybrid> XandriX: 14
[11:35] <hybrid> turn 15 in Dec
[11:35] <XandriX> do u smoke ?
[11:35] <hybrid> :P
[11:35] <decaf> is there anyone from belgium to help tony ?
[11:35] <XandriX> ;P
[11:36] <djones> hiddenwolf, i don't know what I mean, I think the command is install-grub or something
[11:36] <Burgundavia> kompulsive, no, I am talking about UbuntuDownUnder, the development conference for Ubuntu/Canonicla
[11:36] <hybrid> XandriX : nah but msg me
[11:36] <Burgundavia> TotallyUber, sure
[11:36] <XandriX> decaf, what language does he speal
[11:36] <olorin> decaf: from belgium ?
[11:36] <XandriX> *speak
[11:36] <selinium> kompulsive burgundavia: I saw marcomedia demo breeze, it looks fantastic, licenses where a bit expensive though!
[11:36] <cusco> does anyone knows how can I install transcode please?
[11:36] <maltje> tony hoe zit het?
[11:36] <HiddenWolf> djones, can I pm you?
[11:36] <kompulsive> selinium: long life ff.....fidel! i shrug at the mention of fedora for the most part. i really only focus on gentoo/gentoo-hardened/ipcop/ubuntu when it comes to linux.
[11:36] <holy_cow> selinium, i dare you to try use it tho
[11:36] <tony> i speak dutch but understand english
[11:36] <holy_cow> -_-
[11:36] <Burgundavia> selinium, breeze? breezy badger is the next Ubuntu release
[11:36] <maltje> pak is aan tony
[11:37] <tony> pak?
[11:37] <djones> hiddenwolf: sure
[11:37] <maltje> ik ben u ne file aant sture
[11:37] <selinium> Bugundavia: Oh... I was wondering what animal they would use next!
[11:37] <HiddenWolf> mailtje, try speaking english, for the vast majority of people here
[11:37] <maltje> it is maltje
[11:37] <maltje> lol
[11:37] <olorin> tony: i'm belgian but i speak french :d
[11:37] <Burgundavia> selinium, they are also thinking about Grumpy Groundhog
[11:37] <tony> i already closed that file maltje
[11:37] <maltje> tony i'm sending you a file
[11:37] <tony> my french it so bad
[11:38] <Burgundavia> selinium, that woudl be a rolling release, pulling and buildng things straight out of Upstream source control
[11:38] <mrk182> there is an user that speaks italian??????-----------------------------<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
[11:38] <Burgundavia> mrk182, have you tried #ubuntu-it ?
[11:38] <maltje> I gonna have a cold breezer
[11:38] <holy_cow> lots of italians here tuday
[11:39] <holy_cow> ubuntu must be getting some coverage over there
[11:39] <selinium> Burgundavia: cool, when will they let us play with it?
[11:39] <phlax> hi - does anyone know of a ubuntu package that can copy dvds on-the-fly?
[11:39] <Burgundavia> selinium, no idea. take a look at http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/ for all the cool things they are planning
[11:40] <jackmacokc> what do you mean copy on the fly?
[11:40] <phlax> not make an iso image
[11:40] <phlax> i have v little hdd space
[11:40] <jackmacokc> oh..so dvd to dvd
[11:40] <phlax> yep
[11:40] <selinium> Burgundavia: Cheers!
[11:40] <jackmacokc> hmm..i dont know any for ubuntu that can do that...but a good question. did you check videohelp.com?
[11:41] <kompulsive> selinium: short of busting out my personal fanboy mascot uniform for each of the aforementioned linux flavors and proving that "my team is better" at the top of my lungs, it need not be said that they all excel at what they're intended for and it isn't a coincidence that they have brutally loyal user communities and consistent release schedules to prove it.
[11:42] <xMaximex> Burgundavia, ok, that work
[11:42] <Zerboxx> Is prelinking a good thing to do?
[11:42] <selinium> kompulsive: LOL. I take it the best way of going forward with this till thing would be to get there software and see if it runs on Ubuntu?
[11:42] <abbot45> whats a program that copies DVDs the regualr way?  i just got a burner.
[11:43] <jackmacokc> dvd::rip
[11:43] <Blissex> Zerboxx: depends, but usually pretty good. It can be VERY good.
[11:43] <Zerboxx> Blissex: So it shouldn't be "bad" though...right? :)
[11:43] <abbot45> does that burn them too or just make an ISO that you burn to the DVD with another program?
[11:43] <abood> guys, i wana ask if the ubuntu can open .deb packages, and can any body give me a link on how can i get mplayer im facing proplem with getting it . :(
[11:43] <kompulsive> selinium: absolutely, what "software" is it?
[11:44] <Blissex> Zerboxx: as a rule it should not be bad. There can be pathological situations in which it conceivably can be, but they must be pretty rare.
[11:44] <jackmacokc> just makes the iso i believe..i havent actually used it yet
[11:44] <abbot45> ah
[11:44] <jackmacokc> i've heard good things though
[11:44] <abbot45> cool.
[11:44] <olorin> abood: just add the nerim repository
[11:44] <Blissex> kompulsive: do a search for the Marillat APT repository on NERIM
[11:44] <Zerboxx> Blissex: What is prelinking? just curious
[11:44] <abood> olorin, i did , but it wont work
[11:44] <olorin> nerim unstable ?
[11:44] <kompulsive> selinium: even though if it ran on redhat, it'll probably be compatible or have source that works fine with ubuntu. structure-wise, it isn't much of a leap at all from redhat.
[11:44] <abood> yes
[11:44] <olorin> abood: nerim unstable ?
[11:45] <abood> olorin,  yes
[11:45] <olorin> abood: what's the problem ?
[11:45] <kompulsive> brb
[11:45] <Blissex> Zerboxx: it is a very technical technique of technology. :-) Are you entirely familiar with dynamic linkers and share object tech?
[11:45] <abood> olorin, let me paste u the error lines in pvt
[11:45] <Zerboxx> Blissex: lol, of course not, so I'll just define it as "magic"
[11:45] <phlax> abbot45: k3b, gnomebaker
[11:46] <selinium> kompulsive: It is an electronic till, I have not yet seen it working yet. I believe it is bespoke. So i will have to find out what processes it uses, but apart from that i think it shouldn't be too hard!
[11:46] <olorin> abood: i wait :)
[11:46] <phlax> abbot45: ...i think but i dont have enuff space to try them.
[11:47] <Zerboxx> Blissex: ...as long as it doesn't start a program before I even have thought of starting it, I'm happy :)
[11:47] <Blissex> Zerboxx: that feature will be in the next release :-)
[11:47] <selinium> Is any one here using X-chat? Does anyone know how to get it to perform an instruction on loading? ie /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[11:47] <Jave27> Quick question: I have a laptop, and the max screen resolution is 800x600...  How can I change the virtual resolution to 1024x768 and allow my mouse movements to scroll the screen?  I've seen it in other distos, but have no idea how to enable it in Ubuntu.. ?
[11:47] <Zerboxx> Blissex: lol!
[11:48] <Blissex> selinium: consider as an aside to read http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html
[11:49] <olorin> abood: so ?
[11:49] <Burgundavia> selinium, add your password to the nickserver password field
[11:51] <abood> olorin, just a min dude im resetting the source.list to find the errors lines
[11:53] <Zerboxx> When I do "xine-check" it brings up a warning about DMA, that has stopped the choppyness, where can I put that code so it occurs while booting up?
[11:53] <Zerboxx> (I don't remember the code at this moment :s)
[11:53] <Zerboxx> Oh, something about hdparm /dev/hda and DMA=1 or something
[11:55] <amichai> anyone here use fglrx?
[11:56] <jordanau> amichai,  as in the ati drivers? yeah i do
[11:56] <amichai> jordanau, do u use cedega?
[11:56] <jordanau> amichai, sorry no
[11:56] <abbot45> bah.  im trying to grab dvd::rip but there are dependancies for some of its dependancies that dont have new enough versions available in my repositories?  how can i fix that???
[11:57] <amichai> jordanau, what is the best method of tls to use, default, fast, or compatible?
[11:57] <jordanau> amichai, i have no clue, are you having problems?
[11:57] <Marble2> ugh, can I view a list of programs recently installed through apt-get?
[11:57] <amichai> jordanau, dont know yet, what did u choose?
[11:58] <jordanau> amichai, are you running x config right now i guess?
[11:58] <amichai> Marble2, synaptic
[11:58] <amichai> jordanau, yes
[11:58] <amichai> jordanau, until now i've chosen compatible
[11:58] <amichai> jordanau, and its worked
[11:58] <falcon3> anyone has CrossOver ?
[11:58] <Marble2> amblin: where do I go in synaptic
[11:59] <amichai> Marble2, system>admin>synaptic
[11:59] <jackmacokc> abbot45: you're missing transcoder right?
[11:59] <abbot45> yeah
[11:59] <jordanau> amichai, i really dont know, i think i used default, there are howtos on it let me see if i can find it
[11:59] <falcon3> in Crossover Office Pro: When trying to install Dreamweaver MX, it says it's downloading a file with 'com' in it. there the app hangs and my pc gets really slow
[12:00] <abbot45> and some of its dependancies down the line arent available


 @tsimonq2 [With translations always drop the delta], English ploxxx.
 apparently luguito is sleeping.
 Looks that way.
 Awww?
 @tsimonq2 [Want to get an account on our Phabricator instance and leverage a wiki page or a …], Forgot I created one in July when we first discussed kicking things off :)
 Put up some stuff there (Project & Wiki). Project could start off with brain dumping since there will be a swarm of awesome ideas
 that would need ranking and prioritization.
 And wiki to document some notes of what we would want should a new volunteer make themselves known to help us out.
 For sure
 If we can help in any way or point you in the right direction, please let us know :)
 ("us" being LC)
 @tsimonq2 can you give some brief instructions about fixing https://merges.ubuntu.com/l/lxqt-globalkeys/REPORT ?
 @The_LoudSpeaker you mean other than viewing each file manually, reviewing the diffs that it's complaining about, and then manually resolving the diffs as part of the merge process?
 the conflicting files means that there's changes in one side that can't cleanly apply on the other and vice versa
 so you have to manually go in and deconflict the conflicts
 ^
 how do I upload? Instructions on that?
 well the first question is: have you deconflicted the merge conflicts and have a working source package that contains the results of the merging?
 Downloading and looking at the files now.
 start there before you even begin thinking about 'uploading' it anywhere
 because you have to deconflict the merge conflicts first and manually resolve em.
 i remember this was sometimes pain when there's a plethora of diffs (nginx for example) and they all conflicted.
 (though I had teh server team on my side for that one)
 (now we're just permanently diverged)
 I am done with resolving conflicts. as far as I understand
 How do I test it? build from it?
 umm. following the readme that came with https://merges.ubuntu.com/l/lxqt-globalkeys/lxqt-globalkeys_0.14.3-1ubuntu1.src.tar.gz running "make" gives me: … `make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.`
 @tsimonq2
 wxl:
 @kc2bez
[18:19] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker try `mkdir build; cd build` first
 ack
 shame story
 :/
[18:22] <wxl> ugh sigh i hate their build instructions
 they are too less
[18:22] <wxl> sorry, you need to `cmake ..` first
[18:23] <wxl> so `mkdir build; cd build; cmake ..; make`
 wxl: lets blame the lack of sane build instructions on Simon!  xD
 *shot*
 okay
[18:23] <wxl> cmake does build configuration. the old adage of compiling was `./configure; make; make install`
[18:24] <wxl> @teward001 it's usually his fault but in this case it's the snooty developers XD
 lol
 i like the ./configure method
 ugghhhh! I have to download some 5 mb for cmake and it will take 15mins on my connection!! 😐
[18:26] <wxl> hahahah
 why do I live in a forest or a place where I don't have good internet speeds. I hate you modiji.
[18:26] <wxl> you should never download binaries. only source code. compile it yourself.
 I am doing sudo apt install cmake ffs!!
[18:27] <wxl> see that's your problem
[18:27] <wxl> binaries are bigger :)
 @wxl [<wxl> you should never download binaries. only source code. compile it yourself.], it will take ages then. aren't source codes bigger?
[18:30] <The_LoudSpeaker> also, I just noticed cmake is also available as snap
[18:31] <The_LoudSpeaker> and is 3 versions ahead of the apt one
 puaj! snap.
[18:40] <The_LoudSpeaker> puaji means?
[18:41] <The_LoudSpeaker> also, @kc2bez @wxl @simonquigley check this: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D66
[18:42] <The_LoudSpeaker> I am sure now we won't get any errors simillar to https://phab.lubuntu.me/rSEED19d68e86d6c0ab3510142402e9e5540d2116cd39
[18:45] <wxl> okie dokie
 *four seconds later* ERROR ERROR ERROR *BOOM*
 :P
 @teward001 [*four seconds later* ERROR ERROR ERROR *BOOM*], You're an error
 *fires a cannon at @teward001*
 you're speaking of yourself @tsimonq2.   *fires a 600-ton projectile accelerated to 4% the speed of light from the MAC guns in orbit at @tsimonq2*
 *unleashes Reagan's Star Wars on @teward001*
[18:47] <The_LoudSpeaker> if anyone accepts D66 now, I can edit meta accordingly now and then sleep. we will get results in tomorrow's iso for testing. ;)
[18:48]  * wxl sends Doctor Manhattan to wipe @tsimonq2 out of existence
[18:48] <The_LoudSpeaker> i'd prefer the infinity snap
[18:49] <The_LoudSpeaker> neither dead nor existent.
[18:49]  * wxl installs every snap in existence on @tsimonq2's computer
 *installs Windows XP on wxl's computer*
[18:50] <wxl> sorry, i think i win on that front
[18:50] <The_LoudSpeaker> I agree
 *installs the original DOS 1.0 onto Simon's computer*
[18:51]  * wxl installs TempleOS on Simon's computer
[18:51]  * wxl wins
 BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 Okay okay I'll give you that
 *installs DOS 1.0 on wxl's computer*
[18:52] <wxl> i've never bothered installing it. i wonder what it's like
 Try getting crossfaded on meth and heroin and using DOS
 That's probably a good comparison
[18:54] <The_LoudSpeaker> whats TempleOS?
 Look it up
[18:54] <The_LoudSpeaker> k.
[18:55] <The_LoudSpeaker> anyone looking into D66 now? If not then I am going to sleep. :)
 simon would but he's lazy so :)
 @teward001 [simon would but he's lazy so :)], Okay Mr. Core Developer
[18:56] <The_LoudSpeaker> * The Security Guy
 @tsimonq2 [Okay Mr. Core Developer], considering D66 is the Lubuntu Image stuf... :P
 i'm currently looking at sudo for something else
[18:57] <wxl> i think we should do a twitch livestream where we all review an installation and walkthrough of templeos
 and Apache2 as well for something else
 ... and the programming for the Missiles tat are headed towards you @tsimonq2... um I mean, what?
 :)
 @wxl [<wxl> i think we should do a twitch livestream where we all review an installati …], YES
[18:59] <wxl> or maybe a web page: "lubuntu for templeos users"
 "..is a biblical-themed lightweight operating system designed to be the Third Temple prophesied in the Bible.."
 Ggwp!
[19:03] <wxl> it gets weirder
 Written in HolyC
 Lol!
[19:07] <wxl> to be fair, it's a rather remarkable achievement for someont dealing with schizophrenia. i didn't realize he died last year.
 Ouch!
[19:10] <wxl> wow: 'Once TempleOS was completed, most of his time was spent "coding, web surfing, or using the output from the National Institute of Standards and Technology randomness beacon to talk to God".'
[19:11] <wxl> whoa, he died a couple hours away from me.
[19:12] <wxl> "In December 2018, Linux.org (an unofficial community for Linux users) was defaced by hackers to include a reference to his death"
[19:15] <wxl> wow. i think i have to buy this. https://www.d3vur.com/product/templeos-cia-hat-glow-in-the-dark/
[19:19] <wxl> you know raman if you get your dev application in you could just take care of it yourself :)
 ^
 ^
 Preparing bhaiya!
 I will try that cmake and build tomorrow.
 Ticks one thing off the pre req list for me.


[08:33]  * abogani waves
[12:08]  * abogani wondering if choice about kernels was taken...
[17:05] <dholbach> hiya
[17:07] <ScottL_> hi dholbach
[17:07] <dholbach> hey ScottL_
[17:08] <dholbach> stochastic_: ever heard of xwax playing tracks much too fast?
[17:09] <dholbach> stochastic_: which timecode vinyl do you use?
[18:14] <ScottL_> TheMuso: since you deal with the assessibility, I read about Orca lead developer being fired lately :(   http://lwn.net/Articles/373475/rss
[18:28]  * abogani waves
[18:34] <abogani> Anyone are around?
[18:42] <ScottL_> hi abogani
[18:42] <abogani> ScottL_: Fee... _live_ in this channel...
[18:42] <abogani> :-)
[18:43] <ScottL_> are you asking if I live in this channel?
[18:43] <abogani> No I ask if there are _life_ in general in this channel.
[18:44] <abogani> There are two days that I try to know if someone has taken decisions about kernels.
[18:44] <ScottL_> yes, I was wondering if any decisions were made about the kernel as well
[18:45] <abogani> ScottL_: What is your TZ?
[18:45] <ScottL_> Central (US)
[18:47] <abogani> ScottL_: What is the nearest to you big city? I would want add your TZ into Gnome Clock
[18:48] <ScottL_> Houston, Texas probably.  I would also suggest Dallas but I expect Houston will be there because of NASA.
[18:49] <ScottL_> abogani: I'm curious as well, where do you live?
[18:50] <abogani> ScottL_: Prato, 17Km Florence in the middle of Italy
[18:51] <abogani> I meant 17km near Floirence
[18:51] <abogani> Florence
[18:54] <abogani> ScottL_: http://maps.google.com/places/it/prato-city?hl=en
[18:56] <abogani> ScottL_: Do you know TZ of others Studio Developers?
[19:01] <ScottL_> heh, I was guessing Italy by your (presumably) last name :)
[19:02] <crimsun> I'm EST (currently -0500)
[19:02] <crimsun> so is mma
[19:02] <ScottL_> re: Studio Developers - I know generalities but no specifics
[19:02] <ScottL_> cory was east coast, themuso is in Australia, stochastic is somewhere in Canada
[19:03] <abogani> crimsun: Could you give a city name, please?
[19:04] <ScottL_> abogani: those are some extremely beautiful pictures shown on the link you gave
[19:04] <ScottL_> that is something that the US does not have that Europe does...such a long, rich history, archetecture and CASTLES!
[19:04] <abogani> Florence have betters one :-)
[19:04] <ScottL_> yeah, the US actually does have a few castles, but not like Europe
[19:05] <ScottL_> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&g=Prato+PO%2C+Italy&q=montgomery%2C+texas&btnG=Search+Maps
[19:05] <crimsun> abogani: Washington, DC
[19:06] <ScottL_> that's the closest city to my house...we live in an unincorporated area (or otherwise know as "outside the city limits")
[19:06] <abogani> ScottL_: Cool
[19:07] <abogani> ScottL_, crimsun: Thanks!
[19:07] <abogani> I go to eat something...
[19:33]  * abogani comes back
[19:42]  * abogani listen "Canon e Gigue" by Remsky
[21:02] <TheMuso> ScottL_: Yeah thats old news to me. :)
[21:35]  * abogani , meanwhile continuously request review on -motu, notice that Luke is around...
[21:35] <abogani> TheMuso: Good morning! 08:35 ?
[21:36] <TheMuso> Hi abogani.
[21:42] <ScottL_> TheMuso: did you have secret, insider information or is information in the article old?
[21:42] <TheMuso> ScottL_: Its rather public info from a couple of weeks back.
[21:42] <TheMuso> ScottL_: But I was one of the first to find out.
[21:43] <ScottL_> TheMuso: so, it sounds like a little "yes" for options then :)
[21:46] <TheMuso> ScottL_: I don't follow.
[21:47] <abogani> persia: Are you around?
[21:47] <ScottL_> TheMuso: sorry, English is my first language, i'll be better at my second one J/K
[21:48] <TheMuso> ScottL_: heh
[21:48] <ScottL_> i meant 'yes' to BOTH options  - meaning you sort of had insider information if you were on of the first people to find out and the information was public for a while now
[21:50] <TheMuso> ScottL_: oh ok
[21:50] <TheMuso> ScottL_: yeah that sounds about right
[21:51] <ScottL_> anyone heard from luis lately?  cory was supposed to send an email but I haven't seen him lately either :(
[22:02] <TheMuso> I've heard nothing.
[22:16] <abogani> TheMuso: May I disturb you for a minute?
[22:23] <TheMuso> abogani: Sure.
[22:25] <abogani> TheMuso: Have you followed discussions about kernels on Lucid for Studio (that is -preempt vs -lowlatency vs -rt vs -generic)?
[22:30] <TheMuso> abogani: Not really I am sorry, I have been busy with other things.
[22:31] <abogani> TheMuso: Ok. I don't want waste your time so only a question:
[22:31] <TheMuso> sure
[22:32] <abogani> TheMuso: In your opinion do you have a chance to convince Tim Gardner to release i386 -preempt kernel also?
[22:33] <abogani> TheMuso: Ubuntu Kernel Team provide only amd64 one. This is why we are the -lowlatency.
[22:33] <abogani> Into our PPA
[22:34] <TheMuso> abogani: No sorry, I don't really have time to try and chase that up, and unfortunately my experience is trying to get such things done with the kernel guys is sometimes like going against a brick wall.
[22:34] <abogani> TheMuso: Same for me :(
[22:36] <abogani> TheMuso: Do you have any problems if I request per-package upload rights on linux-rt?
[22:36] <TheMuso> abogani: No, but I haven't really seen any of your recent work appart from that rt upload a while back.
[22:36] <TheMuso> abogani: So I am not sure how strong your packaging skills are yet.
[22:39] <abogani> Always better than nothing
[22:40] <troy_s> Side note, has anyone done any tests regarding illustration / drawing and low latency kernels?
[22:40] <troy_s> Sorry to jut in, but I could easily see real time kernels being useful to artists.
[22:43] <abogani> Really? I always supposed that -rt was useful only for audio artists.
[22:44] <ScottL_> hi troy_s,   also, i'm intrigued by your comment :)
[22:44] <ScottL_> but I'll read about it when I get home
[22:44] <troy_s> ScottL_: Well that's too bad.
[22:44] <troy_s> abogani: Well so did I
[22:44] <troy_s> abogani: I'm wondering though.
[22:45] <troy_s> abogani: In a traditional workflow, you are sketching and drawing large strokes etc.
[22:45] <troy_s> abogani: If you do this with a tablet, and draw larger strokes (as on a 6x11 tablet) or fast strokes, you get polygonal responses - the kernel can't seem to keep up with the speed of input.
[22:45] <troy_s> abogani: I'm wondering if _maybe_ -rt would help to bring that latency down?
[22:47] <abogani> troy_s: Sorry but I don't have direct experience with tablet: I really don't know. The only chance to discover it is testing.
[22:47] <abogani> unfortunately I don't have any tablet :-(
[22:47] <troy_s> abogani: I'd test, but I can't think of a way to really prove conclusively with numerical data.
[22:49] <abogani> troy_s: I suspect that only "user experience" are valid.
[22:51] <abogani> Sorry guys. It is very late for me. Bed is calling me :-)
[22:51] <abogani> Ciao!


[19:37] <mdshave_> is Joshua available on this channel?
[19:38] <mdshave_> or any Ubuntu employees?
[19:40] <karni> mdshave_: yes they are, but not on Sunday, January 2nd ;) try tomorrow
[19:40] <mdshave_> ok thanks
[19:40] <karni> mdshave_: np
[20:05] <DiagonalArg> Anybody around??  Got a U1 question...
[20:05] <karni> DiagonalArg: Sundays evening. Come back tomorrow ! :)
[20:05] <DiagonalArg> But it's noon here!  :)
[20:05] <DiagonalArg> Ok, thanks.


[05:35] <didrocks> good morning
[07:09] <duflu> Morning didrocks
[07:18] <didrocks> hey duflu
[07:29] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:30] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN
[07:31] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[07:51] <lissyx> one thing I have never understood is why the update applied popup randomly gets disabled, is given focus?
[07:52] <lissyx> it's not uncommon I endup hitting "restart now" because I'm writing something, the popup shows, has focus, and unfortunately while typing I'm not looking at the screen and hit "space" that validates the button ...
[07:53] <lissyx> err, not "disabled" but "displayed"
[07:54] <duflu> lissyx, is that a window or a shell notification?
[07:54] <lissyx> I guess it's a window
[07:54] <lissyx> but it has been like that for years ...
[07:54] <lissyx> cost me a few unexpected reboots while working ...
[07:55] <duflu> Either way it should have focus stealing prevention. Although I know that's a feature that simply doesn't work for some people like me. Maybe I type too slow
[07:55] <duflu> In theory if you're typing fast enough then new windows should not get focus
[07:56] <lissyx> making that dependant on the speed sounds ... weird
[07:57] <duflu> It's a necessary evil. If the user is typing then new windows should not steal focus. If the user is not typing then new windows should steal focus. Where's the line between the two? Just a time threshold AFAIK
[07:58] <lissyx> I disagree, stealing focus is never a good ide
[07:58] <duflu> I guess you should be able to configure that.
[07:58] <lissyx> I have only ever got that problem with the update notifications
[07:59] <lissyx> which made me wonder whether there is some special beahvior related to it
[07:59] <duflu> But for general usability we would get a lot of complaints from users if we allowed new windows to open behind other windows, or without focus when the desktop is idle
[07:59] <lissyx> duflu, I was obviously not idle and typing
[07:59] <lissyx> I might not typ fast, but I was clearly in the middle of several words
[08:00] <duflu> Yeah I believe the feature exists but I am usually not typing fast enough for it to work
[08:01] <lissyx> and even if the window would steal focus, giving focus to buttons that can reboot the computer sounds ... risky
[08:02] <lissyx> I am not joking when I said it happened to me several times that, due to this behavior, I rebooted in the middle of my work
[08:02] <duflu> On an idle desktop it makes a lot of sense so yes it's a tricky problem
[08:03] <duflu> I have the same problem with half loaded web pages. You think you're clicking on one thing but it has moved by the time the click has registered, and you may have now clicked on the wrong button
[08:04] <lissyx> that sounds very different
[08:04] <duflu> It's a similar human interface design timing problem
[08:05] <lissyx> update-notification popping, stealing focus, assigning a reboot button the current focus, is: disrupting my work, increasing my mental load, and making me risking loosing what I am doing right now
[08:06] <lissyx> half-loaded web page is half-loaded, I'm not surprised a click would be delivered to the wrong target
[08:06] <duflu> I guess for that one always-on-top-but-never-take-focus would make sense. I don't know if that's an option toolkits can ask for
[09:17] <seb128> goood morning desktopers, seems like I forgot about that IRC thing this morning ;)
[09:17] <oSoMoN> salut seb128 :)
[09:18] <seb128> lut oSoMoN
[09:20] <duflu> Hi seb128 :)
[09:24] <seb128> hey duflu
[11:53] <jbicha> good morning
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[19:26] <sil2100> There's still quite a few mandatory tests to be done o/
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[01:22] <twointo1> anybody tried the new beta?  I'm downloading it now.
[02:06] <cje> hi, I am chatting with someone on a LUG list, and they are suggesting Xubuntu.  I am wondering if this is a good IRC community or newbies?  Or is this community better for more experienced users?
[02:08] <Jester45> its good for all users
[02:09] <cje> cool
[02:09] <Jester45> if your experienced you can help others if not you can get help and become experienced
[02:09] <cje> cool.
[02:09] <Jester45> it does get quite in here sometimes
[02:09] <cje> Jester45, do you think that Xubuntu is good for newbies?
[02:09] <cje> heh
[02:09] <Jester45> yea
[02:12] <cje> I haven't used any XFCE GUI in about 3 weeks, and that was for an old copy of SUSE 10.0 on top of a 750 mhz box.  Someone on this LUG is interested in starting a newbie on a 450 mhz notebook with like 384 MB of RAM.
[02:12] <cje> We are just trying to figure out if that newbie is going to be frustrated with audio and / or video.
[02:13] <cje> I am going to recommend that he send his newbie friend here to IRC if you folks think that is smart.  I have found that IRC is a good support mechanism, but I wanted to see what you all thought.
[02:18] <nikolam> Hi I installed Seamonkey on Xubuntu 7.04 64bit. It uses /usr/local/seamonkey directory for install. Before, I used to make a link with sudo ln -s /usr/lical/seamonkey/seamonkey /usr/bin/seamonkey to make it work system-wide. Now I got message "seamonkey: error while loading shared libraries: libxpcom.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" but it CAN star if I go to /usr/local/seamonkey dir and start it with ".seamonkey" How
[02:18] <nikolam>  to make apropriate link to /usr/bin/ to make SM work system-wide?
[02:21] <Jester45> cje: here and the forums are good places
[02:22] <cje> Jester45, Xubuntu or Ubuntu forums?  Or both?
[02:22] <cje> Jester45, linky, please?  Thanks
[02:23] <nikolam> I just make it work by putting the scipt: cd /usr/local/seamonkey/  ./seamonkey and made it executable in the name of usr/bin/seamonkey . Do you think it is safe? :)
[02:29] <Jester45> i would have to guess ubuntu forums
[02:30] <nikolam> www.ubuntuforums.org
[03:23] <TheSheep> Jester45: I even registered there, with my login and pass from launchpad, but found out I have no permissions to post anywhere, so it's kind of useless.
[04:44] <kiosk> \quit
[05:17] <mikubuntu> help! got two issues i need to resolve on an old box that i set up for mom.  most important is wireless networking, as the box doesn't have etho port, but it does have two usb ports... i bought a belkin wireless g usb adapter, but couldn't make connect.  several weeks ago i gave my friend an old box and we put xubuntu on it.  she bought a linksys router and usb adapter and we enabled it in...
[05:17] <mikubuntu> ...two licks, right out of the box... she lent me that adapter today to bring home and see if i could get connected with it, but no luck... can someone help me determine what the prob might be?
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> mikubuntu: for a usb wireless adapter, you may be looking at needing ndiswrapper
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> !wifi | mikubuntu
[05:22] <ubotu> mikubuntu: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:23] <mikubuntu> i don't even get the same behavior from xubuntu when i try to config the wireless connection, but i'm pretty sure this box of mom's and the one i gave my friend were both loaded off the same alt install disk...
[05:24] <mikubuntu> tonyyarusso: ya, i have looked at the ddiswrapper page, and i think it's kinda over my head unless i can get someone to walk me thru it... why would the linksys adapter work out of the box on one machine, and then not on another???
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> mikubuntu: wait, it works on one?
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> erm, dunno...
[05:26] <mikubuntu> ya, the linksys usb adapter works on subuntu's computer, and auto dchp'd right off the bat, but when i put it on mom's machine today; no dice.... arrrrrrgggggghhhhhh :(
[05:26] <mikubuntu> brb
[05:30] <mikubuntu> tonyyarusso: the machines are not the same, but with the same os image, they should behave the same shouldn't they?
[05:31] <tonyyarusso> mikubuntu: maybe.  I'm not sure.
[05:33] <mikubuntu> how soon will gutsy stable be released? i wonder if there is better connectivity with the new release ...
[05:36] <kiosk> my -> key doesn't work
[05:37] <kiosk> it does something but not move the cursor right
[05:38] <kiosk> anyone know this problem
[05:40] <kiosk> grumpymole: hey, I used your forum ad to fix my TP600 sound
[05:40] <kiosk> grumpymole: thanks
[05:41] <kiosk> but now my -> key is broke
[06:28] <DeadlikeU> does anyone know how to install flash play
[06:28] <DeadlikeU> and jaa
[06:28] <DeadlikeU> java
[06:31] <DeadlikeU> ! flash player
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash player - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <mikubuntu> is it ok to attach a wireless g usb adapter while computer is on, or must it be powered down b4 introducing the (new) adapter?


[18:10] <_MMA_> andreasn: You know if the all the source images for Tango's utilities-terminal are in SVG? I have a icon I based of of the scalable SVG but use for smaller sizes like we all know has issues.
[18:44] <andreasn> _MMA_, I think they are anyway, 16x16 and 22x22 might be xcf's
[18:44] <andreasn> I'll check
[18:50] <andreasn> _MMA_, the 22x22 has a svg, the 16x16 only a xcf-file. Should be pretty quick to trace though
[18:51] <andreasn> cvs -d:pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.freedesktop.org:/cvs/tango co tango-icon-theme
[18:51] <andreasn> in $size/apps/utilities-terminal
[19:23] <_MMA_> andreasn: Thanx alot sir.
[19:56] <andreasn> np