[00:00] <Archilles> DasEil: Oops nevermind.  I accidently added -t.  plain mount works fine.  Thanks.
[00:00] <Haak> please help me
[00:00] <Scunizi> rjune: I had to close then reopen FF for it to update.. what a pain.
[00:01] <Bong> thank you scunizi
[00:01] <zoug> sedd: update-grub or update-grub2 ?
[00:01] <Ult_m4t3> I can't join a channel =(
[00:02] <daftykins> hi all, i'm using a program called quicksynergy which depends upon 'synergy' however instead of using synergy, i'm using the same binaries provided by a .deb. i want to be able to reinstall quicksynergy without dependancies so i don't get updates broken due to it trying to pull in 'synergy' but failing. any ideas?
[00:02] <GENT> Ult_m4t3, type /JOIN then the desired chanel
[00:02] <Ult_m4t3> how can I do to join a channel?
[00:02] <Ult_m4t3> but it's not here
[00:02] <Ult_m4t3> it's on IrcNet
[00:02] <mlissner> Hi, does anybody know how to adjust the drop shadow to be bigger in Compiz/emerald on Karmic? I've tried the obvious, but it's not working.
[00:02] <Phuzion> Can anyone help with frequent  internet crashes with wireless.. running 8.10
[00:02] <Scunizi> Ult_m4t3: that's not a channel it's a server..
[00:02] <GENT> Ult_m4t3, like /JOIN ##apple
[00:03] <Scunizi> Ult_m4t3: try typing ... /connect irc.ircnet.net
[00:03] <thiebaude> Ult_m4t3, xchat has itcnet
[00:03] <thiebaude> ircnet
[00:04] <sedd> zoug: I think you have to chroot into the drive to do those and I tried that and I think that's how I zapped device map. Anyway I wrote it by hand (I've only got two drives) and now grub-install --root-directory=/mnt seems to have worked
[00:04] <Archilles> What is command to unmount?
[00:04] <zoug> why dont you chroot to that partition
[00:04] <zoug> sedd: oki
[00:04] <syn2fin> Anyone familiar with a good opensource music notation software that is GUI based? It must bbe grapohical, it is for my Mom
[00:04] <ardchoille> Archilles: umount
[00:05] <sedd> zoug: I found some webpage that had a method involving chrooting and i tried that but it didn't work and I think maybe that's where my device.map went.
[00:05] <GENT> syn2fin, its called a pencil
[00:05] <Mewses> Q: Hello! im having a network issue, I cannot connect to the internet with the baseunit which is using ubuntu 9.10 and a wired connection, Im currently on my laptop and i can see that the router (belkin) is responding to the computer since its giving it a ip "<IP_ADDRESS>". Everything should work, i have tried making the ip static. restarted "networking" a doussins of times.
[00:05] <Archilles> ardchoille: easy peasy thanks
[00:05] <syn2fin> GENT: ha ha!
[00:05] <zoug> sedd: why dont you install on /dev/sda?
[00:06] <Ult_m4t3> last time I did so fast, I can't even remember... I wanna join a Server... diff from this one...
[00:06] <zoug> sedd: that would be easier i guess, only diff grub wont be on your sda3
[00:06] <thiebaude> Ult_m4t3, do you have xchat?
[00:06] <Flannel> Ult_m4t3: /connect [server]
[00:06] <Ult_m4t3> yes, I do... and let me try that
[00:07] <thiebaude> in the network list
[00:07] <Phuzion> Can anyone help with frequent  internet crashes with wireless.. running 8.10
[00:07] <sedd> zoug: I think I got it. rewriting device.map by hand worked. Got grub back then just had to update-grub (from the on-disk 9.10 installation, not the livecd) and now I've got win7 and 9.10 working
[00:07] <sedd> thanks for your help
[00:07] <Quan-Time> Phuzion: you mean the net drops off all the time ?
[00:07] <zoug> sedd: oh great!
[00:07] <ZeroKewl> i need help
[00:08] <ZeroKewl> how do i set this fixed sound latency with "s_alsa_pcm plughw:0" and "s_alsa_latency 0"
[00:08] <Archilles> How do you check the mounted partitions/devices in terminal?
[00:08] <GENT> ZeroKewl, well your on a help channel...
[00:08] <ZeroKewl> how do i ste mine to that
[00:08] <ZeroKewl> set*
[00:08] <erUSUL> Archilles: cat /proc/mounts
[00:08] <thinkl1> I'm getting terrible performance w/ clutter & glxgears also runs extraordinarily slowly. I have a GeForce6200 and am using nvidia drivers (nvidia-glx-185). Any ideas where to start troubleshooting?
[00:08] <Quan-Time> Archilles:  they should apear in /mount
[00:08] <Phuzion> Quan-Time yes, it's been happening more frequent of late... i thought at one point cause ff wasn't pointing to the newest update, then I thought it was java... but after the last 2 dropped connections... I'm beginning to think maybe it's the connection itself in my settings?
[00:09] <erUSUL> thinkl1: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:09] <Quan-Time> Phuzion: i get it a bit too, not looked into it.. i can live with it.. it only dc's for a second and comes back.. just a "lag"
[00:10] <Quan-Time> but it does indeed disconnect.. i alway thought it was checking my cred's on the server side
[00:10] <Quan-Time> making sure im the right person who i say i am
[00:10] <Phuzion> Quan-time mine isn't just a lag though mine tries to find the connection then can't find any wireless in range
[00:10] <thinkl1> erUSUL: Okay -- nothing obvious there. Should I look for something in particular? Or pastebin?
[00:11] <Quan-Time> Phuzion: when you connect, how is the reception ? good ? you might have an obstacle in the way giving yhou bad signal ??
[00:11] <syk> when i boot my pc up, there is like 10 different grub menu options, how do i find the grub2 list?
[00:11] <sedd> I just installed 9.10 on a new system and everytime it boots I get this new crash reporter, the red ! tray icon, but it just says "your system encountered a serious kernel problem." How do I check what it was? Which log?
[00:11] <DasEi1> syk: /etc/grub.d/grub.cgf
[00:11] <DasEi1> cfg
[00:12] <thinkl1> erUSUL: Here's the log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/339586/
[00:12] <D_K_2> Obamacide:  heh, ok, external cdrom is dead. wont power on, and im thinking it never may. soooooo.... "F" it for now?  Just for laughs...  http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Repair/Installing-iBook-G3-12-Inch-Optical-Drive/133/1  .....i recommend slideshow, its alot of pages.
[00:12] <Phuzion> Quan-time obstacle?  I'm not far from the router right now... and I have full bars... I notice the problem seems to occur only after I've gone into Yahoo Spades that uses Java... but I don't see how Java would tie up my whole connection?
[00:12] <DasEi1> syk: sorry, /etc/default/grub   > edit this to make changes
[00:12] <Quan-Time> i have eth0 plugged in.. ive got net (duh).. my win7 file server has net.. last night i was moving files around perfectly, this morn after a update, i cant even see the server.. im browsing with nautilus.. - i can ping it fine.. ideas ?
[00:12] <yellowrooster> Hello everyone. I have a netbook that does not come with an optical/disc drive built-in. It has, however, a built-in card-reader. I need to run the Recovery CD. Is it possible to transfer the data from the Recovery CD to a memory card and then have the netbook run off the memory card when I boot it up?
[00:13] <sedd> yellowrooster: which netbook?
[00:13] <Quan-Time> Phuzion: ive no idea.. but java and yahoo... eww
[00:14] <Jamed> !usb | yellowrooster
[00:14] <yellowrooster> sedd: asus eee pc
[00:14] <Quan-Time> yellowrooster: if your bios supports usb or "other device" booting, yes its possible.. but its 100% reliant on that
[00:14] <Phuzion> quan-time LOL, believe me I feel you on the java eww... I just did a clean install of Ubuntu 8.10 while dual booting to Win XP.... and I've had the damndest time tryin to trouble shoot problems... one of which being Java
[00:15] <yellowrooster> Jamed. for practical purposes, is USB=built-in memory card reader?
[00:15] <yellowrooster> Quan-Time: ok. i'll check the bios
[00:15] <Archilles> Quan-Time, erUSUL: in /proc/mounts is this a list of all partitions/devices mounted? for eg. it says 'none /sys sysfs rw, nosuid, nodev, noexec 0 0'
[00:15] <Mewses> Phuzion: have you checked so its not out of date?
[00:15] <Jamed> yellowrooster: there is a usb port, every netbook has at least one
[00:16] <yellowrooster> Jamed, i think you're misunderstanding. i would like to boot up from a built-in memory card reader. What does USB have to do with it?
[00:16] <Quan-Time> Archilles: cat /proc/mounts   that lists everything
[00:16] <sedd> yellowrooster: most people boot from usb drives. Many usbdrives take memory card media
[00:16] <Phuzion> Mewses.... checked to see what isn't out of date?  I just installed the OS and the Java... everything is clean install and up to date
[00:16] <sedd> if your bios recognizes the card reader as a bootable device then you're fine
[00:17] <Jamed> yellowrooster: er... you want to use a flash device to boot from it?
[00:17] <yellowrooster> sedd, why are you talking about USB drives?
[00:17] <Mewses> Phuzion: i've been afk for the last 15 minutes, is your firefox freezing?
[00:17] <sedd> because that's what I (and most others) know
[00:17] <Archilles> Quan-Time: okay
[00:17] <syk> this is my grub.cfg, i have several boot options and im not sure which ones to remove from here http://paste.ubuntu.com/339590/
[00:17] <yellowrooster> Jamed, i want to boot from an SD-card that I will put into the built-in/internal SD card reader of the netbook
[00:17] <pasbarteam> hi all, i'm newbie. i need some help.
[00:17] <Quan-Time> if its mounted properly, it should be in /media from memory.. which means you can instantly go into its dir
[00:18] <pasbarteam> how to create file & printer sharing on local area network in ubuntu? my other computer using WinXP. thank.
[00:18] <Ult_m4t3> this is crazy... i can't believe i'm sucha newbie with this...
[00:18] <Jamed> yellowrooster: i don't know if any bios can boot from sd cards, i don't think so
[00:18] <Phuzion> Mewses no... I solved my firefox/java issue (I think)  I'm having problems holding a wireless connection... however I seem to only be getting the problem when playing spades in yahoo... then my connection drops and after time I can't see any wireless signals within range
[00:18] <Out_Cold> so i was invited to Google Wave. This seems like an awesome collaborative tool for devs or any other groups. I have invites for anyone interested
[00:18] <yellowrooster> jamed, oh know. But I know what I can do!!! I can put the SD card into a USB Memory Card reader.
[00:18] <sedd> yellowrooster: follow the instructions to make a bootable usb disk, but apply them to your memory card. At boot up, look for some option, Delete or F12 or something, to boot from your memory card reader. If not, then find a USB memory card reader or just a usb drive. They are a dime a dozen
[00:18] <mohsen> hi
[00:18] <yellowrooster> maybe my netbook's bios will allow booting from USB. I should check it now.
[00:18] <Jamed> yellowrooster: that should work
[00:19] <Archilles> Quan-Time: okay
[00:19] <Mewses> Phuzion: Ok.
[00:19] <syk> !grub2
[00:22] <Phuzion> so far I haven't been disconnected from the net... I'm beginning to think the disconnection problem is associated w/ Yahoo or Java... more than likely Java more than Yahoo
[00:22] <Ult_m4t3> can anyone please help me set this XChat to join a server?
[00:22] <DasEi1> Ult_m4t3: go ahead
[00:23] <sedd> trying to make a usb image using Ubuntu's USB Startup Disk Creator and when I choose the .iso it just doesn't show up in the box afterward. Does that mean it's not valid or something? Is there an easy command to do this? mkisofs or something?
[00:23] <Ult_m4t3> I wanna look for a channel I can't seem to find
[00:23] <Ult_m4t3> I'm a newbie on this... x_x
[00:23] <Helsinkiii> hi
[00:23] <Obamacide> Ult_m4t3 what channel u want?
[00:23] <RickRoll> which channel?
[00:23] <pasbarteam> how to create file & printer sharing on local area network in ubuntu? my other computer using WinXP. thank.
[00:23] <DasEi1> Ult_m4t3: /list for a listing (takes some time ); which channel ?
[00:24] <g_giulio> Hi guys,some one know how to erase simple but big file on a partition in ntfs,thans!
[00:24] <Quan-Time> Phuzion: ive seen win32 progs that kill entire networks.. like, 300+ computer LANS
[00:24] <Ult_m4t3> gaytorrent.ru
[00:24] <Ult_m4t3> that one
[00:24] <Helsinkiii> so i normally mount my 40GB internal HD every day to access my data right. I tried copying all my data from there onto my main HD, and since this morning, my 40GB HD appears empty, although is still says there is space taken up
[00:24] <Frans-Willem> Has anyone ever succeeded in getting OpenVPN running in bridged mode on Ubuntu? Currently my box is completely unreachable once I run bridge-start :/
[00:24] <Helsinkiii> i can't access any of my data
[00:24] <Quan-Time> until one certain douche bag stops doing what he was doing
[00:24] <DasEi1> g_giulio: rm, but be carefull , better mv it before, if unsure
[00:25] <Phuzion> Quan-time.... I'm really beginnin to think it's associated w/ Sun or FF though
[00:25] <DasEi1> Ult_m4t3: doesn't sound like irc to me
[00:25] <Ult_m4t3> it is...
[00:25] <Quan-Time> id guess sun java.. thats always doing weird things
[00:25] <Ult_m4t3> Our official IRC-Channel is #Gaytorrent.ru . Please follow our IRC-Channel Rules!
[00:25] <Ult_m4t3> You can also use your own client: irc://irc.gaytorrent.ru:6667/Gaytorrent.ru.
[00:25] <FloodBot1> Ult_m4t3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:26] <DasEi1> Ult_m4t3:  /j #Gaytorrent.ru  in your messenger
[00:26] <Helsinkiii> so i normally mount my 40GB internal HD every day to access my data right. I tried copying all my data from there onto my main HD, and since this morning, my 40GB HD appears empty, although is still says there is space taken up
[00:26] <Phuzion> Quan-time yes it seems fishy.... but I don't see how Sun could bash my entire connection and make me have to keep restarting
[00:26] <Led-Hed> I did a dist-upgrade to 9.04 from 8.10 and lost my RAID array.  How can I rebuild it without loosing the data?
[00:26] <skyl> I want to replace one page of a pdf with a 1-page pdf or png, any ideas?
[00:26] <ZeroKewl> is there a way to get rid of pulseaudio all together
[00:26] <Jamed> Ult_m4t3: you have to connect to irc.gaytorrent.ru and then join #gaytorrent.ru
[00:26] <Jamed> Ult_m4t3: thats what their website sys
[00:26] <DasEi1> !pm | g_giulio
[00:27] <Ult_m4t3> Jamed how do I do that?
[00:27] <t0rc> I want to revert my version of bluez; is there an easy way to do that? I'm using Karmic and want to go back to Jaunty's version of the libs.
[00:27] <ago> #john cicco
[00:27] <Jamed> Ult_m4t3: don't know, i don't use xchat
[00:27] <Quan-Time> i cant browse my local network, and i could before last nights update.. ideas ?
[00:27] <sedd> ult_m4t3: /server irc.gaytorrent.ru
[00:28] <DasEi1>  g_giulio: if you're new to rm (man rm), then first mv (move the file ) in an empty dir, so less change of chaos by rm
[00:28] <DasEi1> sedd: don't forget j or join
[00:28] <DasEi1> g_giulio: *chance
[00:28] <sedd> too late
[00:28] <DasEi1> ooh
[00:29] <hikenboot> hello can anyone recommend an NNTP client that supports biaries (with a gui) that will allow for adding a list of news servers
[00:29] <hikenboot> list  of news servers from a text file
[00:30] <redouane> hey quick question i have 2 other pcs on my home network usually i type the pcs name on vnc to coptrol them, however this doesnt seem to work under ubuntu (entering their ips does work) what can i do so ubuntu recognize their names
[00:30] <yellowrooster> ok., guys, i have the recovery disc in my main computer. how do i put it on the SD card so that the SD card will be just like the disc?
[00:30] <yellowrooster> is it simply copying files?
[00:30] <syk> this is my grub.cfg, i have several boot options and im not sure which ones to remove from here http://paste.ubuntu.com/339590/
[00:31] <Jamed> !usb | yellowrooster, putting it on a sd card is the same thing
[00:31] <yellowrooster> Jamed, ok. thanks! i'll look there.
[00:31] <ago> <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:32] <EMPulse> Hey you guys, is anyone familiar with the OpenPandora project and will the device be able to run Ubuntu?
[00:33] <gdiz> hey everyone, what is the name of the program that allows connections via vnc?
[00:33] <Quan-Time> tightVNC ?
[00:34] <ago> <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:34] <bazhang> ago, ??
[00:36] <queso> my hard drive is being accessed like crazy, but no processes are eating any cpu. how can I find out what's chugging my drive?
[00:36] <lolmac404> Hi, i recentely installed ubuntu 9.1, i'm having a huge problem with pppoe, in ubuntu previous versions it worked perfectly, in this new version of ubuntu, i have to choose between wired connection, OR dsl connection, but i use a dsl connection THROUGH a wired connection, so in other OS and older versions of ubuntu, i used a wired connection + a dsl connection that was dialed (pppoe)
[00:36] <lolmac404> ps; i have a modem connected to a wireless router, the wireless router is set to do the DHCP and the modem is in bridge mode.
[00:37] <Quan-Time> hmm, i STILL cant access network shares.. im trying to see a win7 machine,. it was fine last night before an update, same workgroup.. ideas ??
[00:37] <shellfish> ayo guys, i'm lookin for some lyrics downloader program for all my music library, rhythmbox's suposed to do it, but it doesn't, covers neither.
[00:37] <Quan-Time> i can ping it fine.
[00:38] <nameless|> I seem to be having a problem installing unreal ircd on my server. I keep getting this error: http://nameless.pastebin.com/m1a9b80d7  I'm not really sure what to do.
[00:38] <DasEi1> lolmac404: try sudo pppoeconf
[00:38] <lolmac404> DasEi1
[00:38] <lolmac404> i tried
[00:38] <lolmac404> when i restarted the computer
[00:39] <lolmac404> the network connections didn't connect, they were unselectable
[00:39] <lolmac404> the message "Not managed" was showed
[00:39] <DasEi1> lolmac404: how do you connect ? pc-cat5-modem ?
[00:39] <lolmac404> DasEi1: PC-WirelessRouter-Modem
[00:39] <kchapman> hey, I have a multi-user clean install of ubuntu 9.10, and I would like to set up the nbr launcher for my sister
[00:39] <lolmac404> i set the router to DHCP
[00:40] <lolmac404> the modem is in bridge mode
[00:40] <Helsinkiii> so i normally mount my 40GB internal HD every day to access my data right. I tried copying all my data from there onto my main HD, and since this morning, my 40GB HD appears empty, although is still says there is space taken up
[00:40] <kchapman> 's account, but none other.
[00:40] <DasEi1> lolmac404: ic, router provides dhcp ?
[00:40] <lolmac404> yes
[00:40] <kchapman> I need clean 9.10 for work restrictions.
[00:40] <ZykoticK9> lolmac, if you're getting "not managed" it is because there is something setup with /etc/network/interfaces - and thus network manager will not apply
[00:40] <DasEi1> lolmac404: that connection works (sudo dhclient) ?
[00:41] <lolmac404> DasEi1: the network connection? or this (sudo dhclient)
[00:41] <DasEi1> lolmac404: the ip ident from router to pc
[00:41] <lolmac404> DasEi1
[00:41] <Helsinkiii> so i normally mount my 40GB internal HD every day to access my data right. I tried copying all my data from there onto my main HD, and since this morning, my 40GB HD appears empty, although is still says there is space taken up
[00:41] <Helsinkiii> so i normally mount my 40GB internal HD every day to access my data right. I tried copying all my data from there onto my main HD, and since this morning, my 40GB HD appears empty, although is still says there is space taken up
[00:41] <lolmac404> the network was working fine
[00:41] <FloodBot1> Helsinkiii: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:42] <Helsinkiii> someone, please
[00:42] <Helsinkiii> i have important data here
[00:42] <lolmac404> i was accessing the other pcs in the network and using terminal server client, should i test the (sudo dhclient) ?
[00:42] <DasEi1> yes, lolmac404
[00:42] <lolmac404> ok
[00:42] <lolmac404> i will be right back
[00:42] <nameless|> Helsinkiii: best bet is to not spam the channel with "OMG, PLS, I NEED HELP!!!!11!"
[00:43] <Helsinkiii> alright
[00:43] <Helsinkiii> i'm just friggin dying here
[00:43] <Helsinkiii> 30GB of music, university documents, GONE
[00:43] <Kamokow> How can I install a Swedish keyboard layout? Also, how would I be able to switch between them easily (like a hotkey)? (On windows I could press ALT+Shift and they would switch between each other)
[00:44] <Jamed> Helsinkiii: what filesystem is on the hd?
[00:44] <Kamokow> Helsinkiii: Have you tried mounting it on another PC?
[00:44] <LjL> Helsinkiii: you didn't explain yourself very well. you said you tried copying - did that fail? if so, how?
[00:44] <Helsinkiii> no
[00:44] <_CommandeR_> How do you restart gnome panels settings in ubuntu karmic
[00:44] <_CommandeR_> ?
[00:45] <Helsinkiii> LjL: i tried moving all my data, and it said 3 files couldn't be moved
[00:45] <ganymede> i have a root access to box that is an LDAP client and all user information is stored an an LDAP server that i don't have access to. is there a way to add myself to a group only on this box here but not make any changes to the LDAP user? sort of like cascade group memberships...? (more specifically, i'm not part of the fuse group according to the LDAP server but i want to do sshfs on this box here)
[00:45] <LjL> moving != copying
[00:45] <Helsinkiii> so i'm like, ok. nothing ends up being transferred
[00:45] <Kamokow> _CommandeR_ System->Preferences->Main Menu (im pretty sure)
[00:45] <Helsinkiii> boot up my pc, HD is empty
[00:45] <LjL> Helsinkiii: eh, of course that is not the case.
[00:45] <skyl> I have 1)printed the document, 2)signed the relevant page 3)scanned it back it.  So, now I have a pdf that I need to replace one of the pages
[00:45] <Kamokow> _CommanR_: And there should be a little "Revert" button
[00:45] <LjL> Helsinkiii: if you move files, they get moved. if the moving gets interrupted because of an error, then the rest doesn't get moved - but what has been moved has been moved
[00:46] <_CommandeR_> Kamokow, it is not only the menus but the whole panel
[00:46] <skyl> I can open the pdf in gimp and replace the image .. but how do I build the pdf back ... gimp won't save a bunch of layers images to pdf it doesn't look like
[00:46] <Kamokow> _CommandeR_: Oh sorry, I misunderstood.
[00:46] <aliciapg> can anyone help me with running kdenlive? it currently gives me an error msg
[00:46] <Helsinkiii> LjL: my 40GB HD still says 30.2 GB used
[00:47] <kchapman> skyl: Gimp is a raster editor, so by definition if you render a PDF in it, it will be lossy
[00:47] <skyl> kchapman, lossy can be fine, do you have a quicker/easier solution?
[00:47] <kchapman> skyl: you might try inkscape, which is a surprisingly good pdf editor. (c: not perfect yet, though. :P It's fast and WYSIWIG though.
[00:48] <Jamed> Helsinkiii: hidden files maybe?
[00:48] <skyl> what about a series of images, any format ... build into pdf .. that must be possible ...
[00:48] <Helsinkiii> jamed:nope
[00:48] <Marc128000> Anybody know what directory chrome installs to from the beta .deb?
[00:48] <Helsinkiii> i might kill myself
[00:48] <ZykoticK9> Helsinkiii, you might want to check if the drive has a .Trash folder with your files in it...
[00:48] <Helsinkiii> how do i do that
[00:49] <freeqstyler> hello
[00:49] <freeqstyler> i have problem with conky
[00:49] <Kamokow> Helsinkiii: Also, before doing anything extreme, you could try mounting the drive on another pc, see if you can see your files there
[00:49] <ZykoticK9> Helsinkiii, cd to where the drive is mounted then do an "ls -a" and see if anything like .Trash(BLAHBLAH) is there
[00:49] <lolmac> DasEi1
[00:49] <lolmac> the network was fine
[00:49] <lolmac> everything working
[00:50] <Helsinkiii> how do i go from dekstop/to HD
[00:50] <freeqstyler> i set own_window_type to override and it is rendered under nautilus layer (when i kill nautilus, conky shows up)
[00:50] <DasEi1> lolmac404: so the problem is your modem and router
[00:50] <riverbird> skyl, in gimp i think you can print to pdf
[00:50] <lolmac> dae
[00:50] <lolmac> DasEi1
[00:50] <riverbird> you may have to flatten the image first, not sure
[00:50] <ZykoticK9> Helsinkiii, open a terminal and type "mount" and you 'should' see where your drive is mounted
[00:50] <lolmac> i will try putting the dhcp to the modem
[00:51] <DasEi1> lolmac: no, the modem acccepts any ip, you got to set the router doing the ppoe
[00:52] <Helsinkiii> ZykoticK9:i get a bunch of shit
[00:52] <DasEi1> lolmac: does the router have a webinterface ?
[00:53] <skyl> riverbird, but I have 13 pages/layers and it seems to only do 1
[00:53] <ZykoticK9> Helsinkiii, do you know where you mount your 40G drive?
[00:53] <Helsinkiii> no
[00:53] <ZykoticK9> Helsinkiii, is this an internal drive or an external drive?
[00:54] <Anacranom> can any OP tell me if there is support for OSS here? or is it only pulse-audio issues?
[00:54] <riverbird> skyl, can you flatten the image and save it all as something else, then print?
[00:54] <ZykoticK9> Anacranom, OSS is like way old - are you sure you don't mean ALSA?
[00:54] <skyl> riverbird, hmmm, but then the layers/pages are lost?
[00:54] <riverbird> yup
[00:55] <riverbird> mmaybe save your layers as a gimp native file first, then open and work from a copy?
[00:55] <K|nG> Hii :A have a 3 Times i ask for that but not successful :S, i had make a sudo pppoeconf and i had made 2 of them but Mistake how i can Remove that and make New one?
[00:55] <Helsinkiii> ZykoticK9 internal
[00:55] <skyl> I have 13 page pdf, I want to replace page 11 with an image/pdf/whatever
[00:55] <turtle411> where am i?
[00:55] <ZykoticK9> Helsinkiii, sata or ide?
[00:55] <Helsinkiii> SATA
[00:55] <Helsinkiii> ZykoticK9 sata
[00:56] <ZykoticK9> Helsinkiii, try "mount | grep sd" this should show only your SATA drives
[00:56] <Anacranom> ZykoticK9, um... Alsa is one, tied in with pulseaudio,,, OSS is separate...
[00:56] <ZykoticK9> Anacranom, what are you trying?
[00:56] <riverbird> maybe i dont understand what youre trying to do ..
[00:57] <redouane> how to restart the x server?
[00:57] <skyl> riverbird, sign a pdf and send it back
[00:57] <marcelo> Hi fellas. I installed ubuntu 9.10 a few days ago, and since then, it keeps making a noise. Its like the the sound output opens and then closes. My friend has the very same problem. Is that a known issue?
[00:57] <Helsinkiii> ZykotickK9:/dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro), and /dev/sdb1 on /media/disk type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[00:57] <turtle_> is 41 gigs enough space for my ubuntu filesystem?
[00:57] <manugg> turtle_: more than enough
[00:57] <ZykoticK9> Helsinkiii, in a terminal "cd /media/disk" then "ls -a" and see if there is .Trash
[00:58] <Helsinkiii> oh shit!
[00:58] <Helsinkiii> is says "Files"
[00:58] <Helsinkiii> that's where all my files are
[00:58] <skyl> turtle_, I'm running a few partitions on 40 gigs right here...
[00:58] <FloodBot1> Helsinkiii: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:58] <Helsinkiii> ZykoticK9:ls: cannot access Files: Input/output error...."Files"
[00:58] <id10t> 'lo all
[00:59] <riverbird> you want to replace the whole 11 page or just layer your signature in it?
[00:59] <Anacranom> not trying anything ZykoticK9 .. i have used OSS on ubuntu for the past 4 years, need to know if support for it is going away, because Alsa/pulseaudio seems to be primary?
[00:59] <Kamokow> Can I make a drive mount on startup in Karmic?
[00:59] <id10t> how can i force marking a filesystem as clean? i need to remove a ext3 journal and it won't do it unless fs is clean... i found where debugfs can mark it dirty.. need opposite
[00:59] <ZykoticK9> Helsinkiii, that's NOT good news....  not sure what to suggest - hopefully someone else has some input
[00:59] <skyl> I'm going to have to break out the LaTeX to sign a pdf and send it back?  that's hard to believe
[00:59] <redouane> hey how to restart the x server?
[01:00] <bastidrazor> Kamokow: yes, add its uuid and mount point to /etc/fstab
[01:00] <Kamokow> bastidrazor: thanks :)
[01:00] <switch10_> what do you all recommend for backing up??  I use back in time, It backs up great, but when restoring the GUI freezes up.  looking for an alternative...
[01:00] <ZykoticK9> Anacranom, OSS is very old and was replaced with ALSA years ago, now Ubuntu uses Pulse...
[01:00] <riverbird> hmm ..
[01:00] <sabat> what is the command to look in a folder for a file containing a word
[01:00] <bastidrazor> redouane: log out then back in or in a terminal type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:00] <Marc128000> redouane, /etc/init/gdm stop -> /etc/init/gdm start (assuming you are using gnome)
[01:00] <id10t> sabat - you want grep
[01:01] <redouane> thx
[01:01] <id10t> sabat - assuming they are text files... otherwise, you want strings and then pipe output to grep
[01:01] <DasEi1> switch10_: unison plays nice
[01:01] <switch10_> DasEi1: thanks I'll check it out
[01:02] <Anacranom> ZykoticK9, the old oss kernel code from the 90's has nothing to do with the latest code from opensound.com
[01:02] <Helsinkiii> does anyone have any ideas ,, i'm about to puke
[01:03] <id10t> Helsinkiii, what is the issue?
[01:03] <ZykoticK9> Anacranom, I know that OpenSolaris certainly uses OSS and gets quite good audio, I'm really not sure what the current support on Ubuntu is like -- best of luck man.
[01:04] <Anacranom> can any OP tell me if there is support for OSS here? or is it only pulse-audio issues?
[01:04] <ZykoticK9> Helsinkiii, in a terminal type "dmesg" and see if you see a bunch of I/O errors listed
[01:04] <Helsinkiii> id10t: it says input/output error on my internal, secondary HD
[01:05] <ZykoticK9> Anacranom, this channel only supports Ubuntu related items - see if there is an OSS channel to ask your question(s) in
[01:05] <Helsinkiii> id10t: i tried copying my data from there to my main HD one day, said certain files couldn't be moved, clicked ok. files weren't moved at all
[01:05] <riverbird> skyl, what distro and gimp are you using - mine seems to let me do that no prob ..
[01:05] <Helsinkiii> rebooted, everything was gone, but it still sees my main "Files" folder in there
[01:05] <arkady> Hi, I am trying to connect to my broadband connection in ubuntu 9.10. I have set up a DSL connection, have selected Automatic PPOe and have entered the coorect uname/pwd in the settings. Still no luck. Any ideas of whats going wrong?
[01:05] <adm1> Afaik oss is ubuntu related since it works in ubuntu at the driver level
[01:05] <Helsinkiii> but when i try to access it i get input/output error
[01:05] <id10t> Helsinkiii, try copying from command line - but i/o errors usually indicate death or near death
[01:05] <skyl> riverbird, karmic defaults
[01:05] <adm1> I reckon the ati questions would get booted too?
[01:06] <b0nn> hrm, I have hit a bump upgrading jaunty -> karmic
[01:06] <Helsinkiii> id10t: i did notice my HD getting slower, the days before this happened
[01:06] <b0nn> I cannot boot, because the drives never mount
[01:06] <b0nn> any ideas where to start?
[01:06] <Helsinkiii> id10t: is there ANYTHING i can do. i have papers due that are on here
[01:06] <riverbird> skyl, i opened a 30 pg pdf from the gimp menu - it asked me to select a page to import for editing
[01:07] <Anacranom> ZykoticK9, what??? this has EVERTHING to do with #ubuntu! if this channel and OS is only going to support Alsa/Pulseaudio-- and NOT OSS, then i need to know!!!!!
[01:07] <xeer> Could someone recommend a command line audio client that can read a .pls that contains url streams? Obviously, mplayer fails. Totem is too heavy and has lots of delay/lockups when dealing with streaming mp3
[01:07] <switch10_> say I had some .avi files within directories within a directory called movies, and I wanted to mv just the .avi files to another location, like this: mv *.avi /media/drive/videos, what flags should I put in??
[01:07] <id10t> Helsinkiii, a forensics tool may be able to pull one or two files off...
[01:07] <riverbird> from there i can layer in an image of a signature, then resave the page
[01:07] <Haak> ubuntu grub2 problem windows 7 open now
[01:07] <id10t> Helsinkiii, or depending on what the issue is, some time in the freezer (w/ plastic bag to keep moisture off)
[01:07] <skyl> riverbird, and then save to pdf?
[01:07] <switch10_> xeer: have you tried mpg123??
[01:08] <adm1> Anacranom: maybe the nvidia questions have nothing to do with ubuntu either
[01:08] <riverbird> skyl, select print, then to pdf
[01:08] <epoxy> HI
[01:09] <Anacranom> true,,, adm1 but the envy ones do??? when i first joined here, if you even mentioned "envy" they were threatening to kick you
[01:10] <marc_> I have a VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS482 [Radeon Xpress 200M] and cannot get the 3d effects to work, what do I need to install to fix this?
[01:10] <_CommandeR_> is there a way to restore gnome-panels to default ?
[01:10] <Flannel> Anacranom: Envy has come a long way to be a reasonable utility.  It's certainly not the top choice, but if you have to do drivers that way, it's gotten better.
[01:11] <adm1> Anacranom, what I'm hearing so far is that gnome is removing all support for any mixers except for pulseaudio
[01:11] <adm1> Anacranom, didn't hear that on this channel tho
[01:12] <skyl> riverbird, I think I found a totally stupid and annoying way to do it .. by converting all the pages to jpg and then using imagemagick
[01:12] <Anacranom> Flannel, i agree, however, #1 it embeds itself way too deep,and #2 it really isn't needed with propper support
[01:13] <aliciapg> does anyone know how to downgrade mlt?
[01:13] <ganymede> how do i get out of a sudo password prompt? ctrl+c or ctrl+d don't seem to work
[01:13] <Flannel> Anacranom: Unfortunately we can't do much about #2, as that's mostly at the whims of the hardware manufacturers.
[01:13] <Out_Cold> ganymede, hit enter
[01:13] <rodgerr> I am about to upgrade my hardware processor (Athalon 32 bit) and motherboard to get access to virtualization with a new AMD Athalon 64.  I want to just put the hard drive into the new machine.  I will use the same video card.  I am pretty sure that will work since the 32 bit architecture is available in the 64 bit version of the AMD Athalon 64.  What is the best way to get Ubuntu to update...
[01:13] <rodgerr> ...to the 64 bit version... and can anyone see any issues I may face (first time updating hardware in a Linux environment)
[01:13] <ganymede> Out_Cold, but that generates failed password entries in auth.log
[01:13] <Out_Cold> ganymede, yes... yes it does
[01:14] <xeer> envy bricked my system. luckily I'm not a noob.
[01:14] <xeer> marc_: you could try the radeon drivers
[01:14] <baghera> Bonsoir!
[01:14] <ganymede> Out_Cold, is there a way to drop out of a sudo prompt without generating failure entries in auth.log?
[01:14] <xeer> switch10_: [mpg123.c:942] error: Initial seek failed: Error reading the stream. (code 18)
[01:14] <ozzloy> i'm getting "...:in `require': no such file to load -- soap/wsdlDriver (LoadError)"
[01:14] <skyl> skyl@SCSI40:~/Desktop/PDF$ convert *.jpg outfilename.pdf ... Segmentation fault haha
[01:14] <ozzloy> how do i install soap stuff in ruby1.9?
[01:14] <Out_Cold> ctrl + c worked wen i just tested it
[01:15] <DasEi1> rodgerr: if you go 32 > 64 bit , you need a fresh install
[01:15] <rodgerr> DasE: I was afraid of that!
[01:16] <Anacranom> Flannel, just today i installed 9.10 on a 2010 platform (HP-pre-release-hardware) with latest ati gfx, and 0 drivers, i was able via cli to get it up and going JUST fine and play sauerbraten (its in the repos) with 125-150 fps...
[01:16] <marc_> xeer: trying that now
[01:16] <baghera> Y'a t il des personnes qui parlent francais??
[01:16] <ganymede> maybe i should rephrase my question. is there a way to CANCEL a sudo command at the password prompt? (without generating a line in auth.log)
[01:17] <freaky[t]> when is the ubuntu xchat package beeing updated?
[01:17] <skyl> riverbird, your method only gives me that one page that I edited
[01:18] <mundito> hi
[01:18] <mundito> hi
[01:18] <riverbird> skyl, true.
[01:18] <DasEi1> rodgerr:so have you got a backup medium ? consider creating a seperate /home, so next time can save thet work
[01:19] <skyl> I have the page I want inserted scanned
[01:19] <riverbird> skyl, i thought you only needed to edit the one page ..
[01:19] <Anacranom> and btw Flannel .. we write bugzillas constantly on pulseaudio, from affecting power-management to dis-abling other hardware (like modems)
[01:19] <skyl> I only need to edit the one page but then I want to put it back together in the complete document
[01:19] <riverbird> gotcha
[01:19] <skyl> I guess I should have gone straight for latex ...
[01:20] <skyl> that's crazy though
[01:20] <Haak> ubuntu grub2 fuck
[01:20] <riverbird> dont know it
[01:20] <Haak> format
[01:20] <Haak> ubuntu
[01:20] <FloodBot1> Haak: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:20] <skyl> I have all of the pages as single images ...
[01:20] <Haak> grub2 p├Čff
[01:20] <Haak> 30 pc remove ubuntu
[01:20] <DasEi1> Haak : need support ?
[01:20] <riverbird> and you want to string them into one .pdf?  i see now
[01:20] <DasEi1> !ot
[01:21] <cece_> en
[01:21] <git__> anyone here work with SPICE?
[01:21] <riverbird> i wonder if open office could do that as a presentation or something?
[01:22] <Anacranom> Flannel, as far as envy is concerned,, trying to get rid of it once you realize you dont need it, is as hard as removing malware/spyware/adware in windows. (thats a period!)
[01:22] <Haak> DasEi1:  grub2 windows 7add happens
[01:22] <Flannel> Anacranom: That's the nature of things not installed via the package manager.
[01:23] <adm1> What the heck is Envy anyway?
[01:24] <git__> spice is a protocol like rdp/ica
[01:24] <Anacranom> so, Flannel is there no support for audio on ubuntu if the user has chosen OSS? thats the original question i am asking?
[01:24] <riverbird> skyl, you could probably do that in gimp, you would have to keep resizing the canvas to fit the 20 pages or whatever, then save it as one image, like a banner
[01:25] <riverbird> skyl, another pain in the arse way of doing something ..
[01:25] <Haak> How do I windows 7 ubuntu  grub2
[01:25] <skyl> I'm just going to hack pdflatex (hopefully)
[01:26] <skyl> seems incredibly asinine
[01:26] <riverbird> yup yup
[01:26] <skyl> I need to install latex on this machine anyways
[01:26] <skyl> I'm beginning to get quite agitated surprisingly ...
[01:27] <skyl> at least the scanner worked out of the box .. I had no idea my trouble would be here
[01:27] <riverbird> skyl, sorry .. lol -- not funny!
[01:28] <Fireking300> Hello
[01:29] <Fireking300> May someone help me partition my harddrive. I seem to keep messing up.
[01:29] <deeperror> ?
[01:29] <ath_> Fireking300, what's the problem?
[01:30] <DasEi1> Fireking300: open a trml ...
[01:30] <Helsinkiii> id10t: windows says NETLDR missing
[01:30] <Fireking300> Okay i open Gparted and it doesn't let me resize/move it is greyed out
[01:30] <DasEi1> Fireking300: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[01:30] <Helsinkiii> id10t:when i tried attaching the HD ther
[01:30] <lstarnes> Helsinkiii: NTLDR?
[01:30] <DasEi1> Fireking300: partis mussn't be mounted
[01:31] <deeperror> Fireking300: sudo gparted
[01:31] <DasEi1> Fireking300: sudo fdisk -l | paaaaaaaaaaaastebinit
[01:31] <rodgerr> DASEi1: I can save all my material to my Wife's machine over our network - but I will have to reinstall specific software - a pain but able to do it - just thought the Ubuntu would notice the change and install required updates...
[01:32] <DasEi1> oops, Fireking300: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinitt
[01:32] <DasEi1> oops, Fireking300: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[01:32] <DasEi1> rodgerr: you can do a dist upgrade, but why do you want to change to 64 bit at all ?
[01:33] <rodgerr> Sun Virtual box
[01:33] <DasEi1> rodgerr: can do also in 32
[01:33] <rodgerr> AMD 32 does not have the virtual calls....
[01:34] <rodgerr> Old althalon I
[01:34] <DasEi1> rodgerr: it's just the cpu that supports it or not, both 32 abd 64
[01:34] <rodgerr> Ahhhh
[01:34] <Anacranom> Flannel, please feel free to PM if needed, or if i am out of line by asking.
[01:34] <rodgerr> thought I would have to go to the new 64s to get the calls
[01:35] <DasEi1> rodgerr: so a socket a athlon ?
[01:35] <rodgerr> have to take my old machine apart ot find out the socket type
[01:35] <preecher> is it allowed to ask port forwarding questions here?
[01:35] <xeer> I don't think 32 or 64 makes a difference until the 8086 instruction set gets revamped.
[01:35] <rodgerr> could just update the processor in it
[01:35] <lstarnes> preecher: are you using ubuntu?
[01:35] <preecher> i am
[01:35] <preecher> 9.10
[01:35] <DasEi1> rodgerr: nah, is it running   any os at this time ?
[01:36] <DasEi1> which ?
[01:36] <lstarnes> preecher: then it might be ok
[01:36] <lstarnes> preecher: just go ahea and ask
[01:36] <lstarnes> *ahead
[01:36] <Flannel> Anacranom: I don't know much about audio, so I'm certianly not the one to ask.  this seems to be less of a support question, more of a general disussion though.  If it is, #ubuntu-offtopic would be better.  If I'm misunderstanding it as non-support, this is obviously the channel :)
[01:36] <rodgerr> DasEi1: Ubuntu  - it is what I am taking to you on
[01:36] <DasEi1> l* , ic
[01:36] <DasEi1> rodgerr: sudo apt-get install hwinfo pastebinit
[01:37] <DasEi1> rodgerr: hwinfo -vv | pastebinit
[01:37] <DasEi1> give url here
[01:37] <Fireking300> okay back
[01:37] <Fireking300> http://pastebin.com/f7f3060c8
[01:37] <rodgerr> dasei1: this machine freezes and is a little flacky - when it ran Windoz XP it rebooted all the time - I'll give that a try
[01:37] <preecher> my problem seems to be--i have one IP from my bellsouth modem which from my understanding is my external IP and after my DSL router connects to the modem i have a different IP which i take to be the internal IP--so when setting up port forwarding which IP do i use?
[01:37] <lstarnes> preecher: the internal one
[01:38] <lstarnes> preecher: does it start with 192.168 ?
[01:38] <DasEi1> k, Fireking300, and you want to resize your linux-partition ?
[01:38] <preecher> yes my internal starts with 192.168
[01:38] <Fireking300> yes
[01:38] <lstarnes> preecher: then it should be safe
[01:38] <adm1> Flannel, do you remember what the question was?
[01:38] <preecher> lstarnes, thx-)
[01:39] <DasEi1>  Fireking300: you need a live cd for that, or another os or an usb to do so, not from the running system
[01:39] <ZeroKewl> i found the sound fix
[01:39] <ZeroKewl> :)
[01:39] <Fireking300> Okay I will install Parted Magic on flash drive.
[01:39] <DasEi1>  Fireking300: also you will have to change fstab and grub
[01:40] <Fireking300> Ill be back soon as I am in a Live CD. Then you can help me?
[01:40] <ZeroKewl> if anyone needs the fix for hd audio
[01:41] <ZeroKewl> i know how to fix the cracking and buzzing sounds in game play
[01:41] <Anacranom> Flannel, if I need support on an audio issue in a ubuntu supported release, am i only going to get support if i am using alsa/pulseaudio?
[01:41] <ZeroKewl> i uninstalled pluseaudio
[01:41] <ZeroKewl> and borrowed the sound files from 9.04
[01:42] <hdtdi> hi. i can take pictures with my web camera with programs like camorama and kamoso but when i try to test video call in skype.. i have this green screen and basically its not working i am using ubuntu 9.10 and i have logitech web camera
[01:42] <ZeroKewl> and just used the alsa and not the pulse audio
[01:42] <ZeroKewl> :)
[01:42] <ZeroKewl> i got a link if u want it
[01:42] <ZeroKewl> that i went by to fix it
[01:42] <adm1> Anacranom, that question about support is not allowed to be a support question.
[01:42] <Flannel> Anacranom: No, thats fine to ask here.
[01:43] <ZeroKewl> Anacranom u want the fix
[01:43] <EoL{s}> Can someone help me, please?
[01:43] <adm1> Flannel, well that was the original question that you referred him to offtopic for
[01:43] <ZeroKewl> i can give u the link
[01:43] <preecher> lstarnes,  for the record it works like a new shiny toy-) thanks again
[01:43] <ZeroKewl> pulseaudio sucks with Hd audio cards
[01:44] <Flannel> adm1: I said I wasn't sure if it was offtopic.  I'm only half here, and from what he pinged me with, it sounded like a discussion about Audio on linux, and not a support question.  Like I said, I wasn't sure if it were offtopic or not.
[01:44] <deeperror> EoL{s}: ?
[01:44] <EoL{s}> I just installed ubuntu along with the proprietary drivers for my broadcom wi-fi card. It shows up in ifconfig, but does not connect.
[01:44] <adm1> Flannel, shouldn't you examine the actual question before classifying the question?
[01:44] <EoL{s}> (the wireless device shows up as eth1 in ifconfig)
[01:44] <ZeroKewl> here is the link
[01:44] <ZeroKewl> http://n2.nabble.com/Re-Ubuntu-s-switch-to-pulseaudio-broke-accessibility-for-the-blind-td3886061.html#a3886061
[01:45] <navs> hello having an issue with my ubuntu net connection
[01:45] <deeperror> EoL{s}: do you have an ipaddress?
[01:45] <ZeroKewl> peace
[01:45] <navs> can't connect to my router and get net access. here's a pastebin of various outputs off ifconfig, resolv.conf and iptables
[01:45] <navs> http://pastebin.com/m413541fd
[01:45] <mrqismrx> I have windows on my machine aswell and I can mount the ntfs partions and read data from it but I haven't tried to write data to ntfs (if something bad would happend) is it safe/possible?
[01:45] <navs> anyone see anything wrong?
[01:46] <EoL{s}> deeperror: The wireless device doesn't seem to even be trying to connect, so it's not acquiring an IP address.
[01:46] <Flannel> adm1: The question he asked could've gone either way, which is why I presented him the statement and let him determine which channel it would be best suited for.
[01:47] <DasEi1> mrqismrx: ntfs support is fine
[01:47] <epinky> hdtdi: sudo LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2convert.so skype
[01:47] <deeperror> EoL{s}: system - pref - network connections
[01:47] <mrqismrx> DasEi1, ok cool thanks =)
[01:47] <deeperror> maybe you need to configure your wpa or wep keys
[01:48] <EoL{s}> deeperror: I've already done so.
[01:48] <deeperror> are you wired now?
[01:48] <EoL{s}> No.
[01:49] <EoL{s}> I am on another computer.
[01:49] <Anacranom> Flannel, my original question was- "can any OP tell me if there is support for OSS here? or is it only pulse-audio issues?"  since alsa and pulse are one...
[01:49] <deeperror> EoL{s}: try from term     'sudo dhclient'
[01:49] <deeperror> see what happens
[01:50] <mrqismrx> Sometime I am using a VPN and everytime I do that I need to add some things to /etc/resolv.conf but if I reboot the computer then resolv.conf is reseted and I have to add two nameservers to it each time I want to use my vpn. Is there a way to make this fix permanent? I heard something about a gui app resolvconf or something?
[01:50] <Kamokow> When I boot ubuntu up after upgrades, now GRUB has: [ubuntu] [ubuntu recovery] [ubuntu] [ubuntu recovery] [memtest] [win 7]. However I was told modifying the new version of menu.lst (whatever its called now, i forget). Will actually ruin the boot. Any way I can configure what gets displayed?
[01:50] <rodgerr> dasei1: am unable to get the log file to create tried --v --log log name, but it will not make the log and won't put an empty file to pastebinit
[01:50] <Flannel> Anacranom: OSS is in the repositories, so of course.
[01:51] <hdtdi> epinky, thank you soooooooooo much.. but now a question should i use this command everytime i start skype or its alreade preloaded ? or whatever this command do
[01:51] <Iowan> navs: Machine should be getting DHCP address?
[01:51] <deeperror> Kamokow: try   'chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf'
[01:51] <EoL{s}> deeperror: "No DHCPOFFERS" received" and "No working leases in persistent database - sleeping."
[01:52] <deeperror> Kamokow: and if you need to edit it use   'chattr -i /etc/resolv.conf'
[01:52] <adm1> Anacranom, evidently the question that never went anywhere was actually going somewhere.
[01:52] <Kamokow> deeperror: Ok, thanks :)
[01:52] <Anacranom> Flannel, and i worded it that way, the "...any OP..." because this is not the same channel i once enjoyed, many non-experienced ppl giving bad advice here now- unchecked
[01:53] <Kamokow> deeperror: Okay, so when I try either +i or -i, it just prompts me for commands again :-/
[01:53] <riverbird> EoL{s},  lspci -v
[01:53] <epinky> hdtdi: it should be fixed by now, however you should make sure that v4l2convert.so  has right permission: "sudo chmod 755 /usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2convert.so"
[01:53] <riverbird> EoL{s}, find the 'network 'controller' ..
[01:53] <icehawk78_> If, after running apt-get upgrade, I'm told there's a list of 12 packages that were not upgraded, is there any way to either force these packages to upgrade (so they don't continually appear in my upgrade list) or tell Ubuntu to stop listing them for upgrade?
[01:53] <deeperror> Kamokow: yea it changed attributes on the file
[01:54] <Kamokow> deeperror: oh okay :P
[01:54] <EoL{s}> riverbird: Found it.
[01:54] <riverbird> broadcom bcm43??
[01:54] <EoL{s}> Yeah.
[01:54] <EoL{s}> But my card isn't supported by BCM43xx yet.
[01:54] <Anacranom> lol,,, sauerbraten is in the repos,,, i doubt support is given for that nor should it be Flannel
[01:54] <deeperror> you can see them by typing lsattr
[01:55] <hdtdi> epinky, yes but when i stop skype and start it from Applications > internet > skype and test again the cammer - again the green screen
[01:55] <riverbird> what is the number? 43??
[01:55] <EoL{s}> 14e4:4315
[01:55] <Flannel> Anacranom: It is.  This may not be the best channel for support, but it's supported here.
[01:55] <racecar56> what do i do about this? bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
[01:55] <riverbird> is it for an 'n' network?
[01:56] <EoL{s}> 'n' network?
[01:56] <epinky> hdtdi: mmm, hard to say, I use Webcamstudio and it worked that way :(
[01:57] <arghh2d2> what is saurbraten? sounds like some kind of german sausage
[01:57] <Kamokow> arghh2d2: it is a first person shooter game
[01:57] <arghh2d2> Kamokow: ok, thanks
[01:58] <riverbird> EoL{s}, yup.  i see.  (just wondering if it was an n card - b, g, n wireless)
[01:58] <shadowmancer> hey all
[01:58] <riverbird> EoL{s}, is this for a laptop?
[01:58] <EoL{s}> riverbird: Yes.
[01:58] <shadowmancer> i need some advice, i've been googling around and reading up on server tech, and need some help
[01:59] <EoL{s}> riverbird: It's an Acer Extensa 4420 if that helps any.
[01:59] <riverbird> EoL{s}, when i have wireless issues, i keep an old pcmcia card around.  my d-link gwl-650 works nicely
[02:00] <shadowmancer> i have tried to use apache2 with all the conf files and stuff and found my head can't wrap around it, also the fact i guess i am a little lazy and just dislike server tech
[02:00] <racecar56> my computer freezes after running for a short time, what's wrong?
[02:00] <Anacranom> cool with me and thank you, Flannel you have my support and if i have issues in the future with OSS and ubuntu supported release i will refer to this, i plan on installing the upcomming LTS the moment its released on this box and my servers (this is my gaming box) as i only do LTS on servers and my game box, all my laptops have the current 9.10 and i hope that i am not turned away if i use OSS instead of alsa/pulseaudio
[02:00] <riverbird> you may have trouble with your bcm chip, as its not supported yet - maybe someone has got a workaround going .. ??
[02:00] <shadowmancer> and i'm wondering if anyone could suggest something like rapache but that works
[02:00] <tuanhai> hi there
[02:01] <shadowmancer> also how do you get ubuntu one to work
[02:01] <shadowmancer> :S it keeps saying mis match
[02:01] <mnaines> I found a solution for those who want to keep their settings but don't want to reinstall everything on every computer they use
[02:01] <EoL{s}> riverbird: I've looked quite a bit. Haven't found anything, unfortunately.
[02:01] <rodgerr> DasEi1: did  a simple hwinfo and piped it over to http://pastebin.com/f444b2de2
[02:01] <EoL{s}> Installing the proprietary drivers is the closest I've gotten.
[02:01] <EoL{s}> Because it detects the device now.
[02:02] <epinky> !elaborate | shadowmancer
[02:02] <tuanhai> hi there, i have some problem with ubuntu 8.04, how can i install skype?
[02:02] <rodgerr> DasEi1: what are you looking for - I piped it to more also, so I could look at it
[02:02] <riverbird> EoL{s}, have you enabled the proprietary drivers?
[02:02] <EoL{s}> Yes.
[02:02] <riverbird> EoL{s}, confirm the b43 files in /lib/firmware?
[02:03] <shadowmancer> epinky: oh sorry, about which the apache thing, or ubuntu one?
[02:03] <riverbird> EoL{s}, confirm fwcutter in packages?
[02:03] <epinky> shadowmancer: "if anyone could suggest something like rapache but that works"
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[02:04] <bazhang> !cn | liukai
[02:04] <shadowmancer> oh my apologies >.<
[02:04] <mnaines> Does anyone want to know the solution I have for the problem of not being able to keep your favorite settings and stuff on every computer you use?
[02:04] <shadowmancer> my brains not in it today
[02:04] <EoL{s}> riverbird: fwcutter isn't enabled because it conflits with the proprietary drivers and isn't supported for my card.
[02:04] <riverbird> hmm ..
[02:05] <ardchoille> mnaines: Perhaps you can do a write-up on the wiki for that?
[02:05] <DasEi2> rodgerr: I was just looking for the type of cpu, how much ram do you plan to use ?
[02:05] <tgnb> hi there, i'm new to ubuntu. i installed 9.10 into VMWare and while the resolution changes when i select full screen I can't seem to figure out how to change the resolution at which it first boots up. there doesn't seem to be an xorg.conf file
[02:05] <mnaines> ardchoille: Because its already written up
[02:05] <ardchoille> mnaines: Ah, ok
[02:06] <mnaines> ardchoille: Its even on Ubuntu's own website...All you gotta do is create a persistent Live setup
[02:06] <crawler> Hello!  How can I get libgtk1.2 installed in Karmic Koala?
[02:06] <EoL{s}> riverbird: Is there a way to check if a module is active?
[02:06] <deeperror> crawler: synaptic ?
[02:06] <djanatyn-gleki> Helloz.
[02:06] <epinky> shadowmancer: one good alternative to apache is lighttpd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lighttpd%2BPHP
[02:06] <Younder> tgnb: what graphics card do you use?
[02:06] <rodgerr> DasEi1: RAM?? I thought it used a specific amount of disk space?  I only have two gigs on this machine
[02:06] <tgnb> i noticed i can change the resolution once logged into the system as a user to something i specify, but how do i change the default resolution of the gdm login screen to be the same?
[02:06] <shadowmancer> alright well to put it in a nutshell, i have tried learning how to use apache2 through commandline but for the moments don't really want to spend all my time fiddling with it, so i'm looking for a way to control an apache2 server on a local machine via a gui
[02:07] <rodgerr> DasEi1: it is a KV7-V(VIA KT600-8237)'
[02:07] <vonnick> Doesn't lsmod show loaded modules?
[02:07] <crawler> deeperror: it's not there.  maybe i need to add a repository?
[02:07] <rodgerr> DasEi1: phoenix mother board
[02:07] <tgnb> Younder, i have a nvidia graphics card but ubuntu is installed a vmware virtual machine
[02:07] <ardchoille> !hcl
[02:07] <shadowmancer> rapache is a program on the repository that controls apache via a gui, although it freezes and therefore isn't useful
[02:07] <djanatyn-gleki> Hey, I don't mean to intrude, but I just installed Ubuntu, and it is set up with the standard gnome, karmic koala. It's on an Acer Aspire One, so how exactly do I set up Ubuntu Netbook Remix (the display manager)
[02:07] <mnaines> ardchoille:  Create a Live CD, then configure a USB flash drive for persistent changes...Boot from the CD and make sure the flash drive is plugged in...That setup can be used on any computer and all your settings and stuff will be the same...Directions are on the Wiki - search for Ubuntu Live Persistence
[02:07] <DasEi2> rodgerr: so socket a, unless you install more than 3 gig of ram, 32bit will do the job fine
[02:08] <ardchoille> mnaines: I clone my systems. But thanks for the info
[02:08] <rodgerr> DasEi1: I have space for one more gig of memory
[02:08] <tgnb> Younder, to clarify, i dont have a problem "selecting" a specific resolution once i'm logged in.. but i would like to set a higher default resolution for when the system first boots up, if that makes any sense
[02:08] <mnaines> ardchoille: This setup means you don't have to clone...Useful if you want to use public computers at cybercafes or libraries and stuff
[02:09] <EastDallas> I have same problem as tgnb...
[02:09] <bazhang> djanatyn-gleki, the package ubuntu-netbook-remix ?
[02:09] <rodgerr> DasEi1: So you are proposing an ALL software virtualization? rather than the CPU calls??
[02:09] <deeperror> crawler: system - admin - software sources
[02:09] <djanatyn-gleki> Okay, well, how do you load ubuntu-netbook-remix up?
[02:09] <djanatyn-gleki> I have it installed.
[02:09] <djanatyn-gleki> Is it a WM?
[02:09] <Younder> tgnb: not really, but it's doable
[02:09] <djanatyn-gleki> I really don't know how to start it up.
[02:09] <bazhang> djanatyn-gleki, did you install the regular ubuntu?
[02:10] <djanatyn-gleki> Yes.
[02:10] <crawler> deeperror: ok, thanks..it seem i need to add jaunty repo: http://www.rabbnix.com/vb/showthread.php?t=979
[02:10] <bazhang> should be selectable in the login session window then djanatyn-gleki
[02:10] <riverbird> EoL{s}, what does iwconfig look like?
[02:10] <Hilikus> huy guys
[02:10] <EastDallas> Oddly enough, if I create a new user, resolution is maxed when I log in to that account.
[02:10] <djanatyn-gleki> Okay, thanks.
[02:10] <djanatyn-gleki> Awesome!
[02:10] <Hilikus> what's the best alternative for MS oneNote in ubuntu?
[02:10] <tuanhai> good morning
[02:10] <DasEi2> rodgerr: so stay with 32, which version are you running now ?
[02:10] <Younder> tgnb: are you thinking of a custom splash scren, or at the login prompt?
[02:10] <riverbird> EoL{s}, my guess nothing there
[02:10] <deeperror> crawler: nice!
[02:10] <Hilikus> i.e. note taking. concept diagrams, etc
[02:11] <bazhang> !equivalents | Hilikus you can look here
[02:11] <skyl> 13 page pdf, I want to exchange page 11 for another image/pdf and save to a new 13 page pdf
[02:11] <Fohn> Younder: All he's saying is that the login prompt is not set at the right resolution
[02:11] <crawler> deeperror: heh, thx for the push xD
[02:11] <EoL{s}> riverbird: IEEE 802.11  Nickname: ""
[02:11] <Fohn> younder: nevermind, kill me.
[02:11] <EoL{s}> riverbird: Access Point: Not-Associated
[02:11] <EoL{s}> For eth2
[02:11] <EoL{s}> The wireless device.
[02:11] <rodgerr> DasEi1: I tried Wine which did not work and looked at Crossover - which did not look promising - so I decided to give virtualization a try - THOUGHT I had to upgrade to a CPU with calls to get it done
[02:11] <Quan-Time> i have a bunch of JPG images off my camera.. on my 'puter.. is there a way to do a "batch" resize instead of opeing each one with gimp ?
[02:12] <tgnb> Younder, ok in windows i have 1900x1200 resolution. when i power on the vmware machine ubuntu starts and the resolution is 800x600 i can then login. now once logged in i can do two things. i can either set the virtual machine to "fullscreen" which automatically changes the resolution of ubuntu to 1900x1200, or i can go into "system>preference>display" and select one of the other resolutions available
[02:12] <Quan-Time> like.. resize all in this folder to X size ?
[02:12] <rodgerr> DasEi1: anm currently not running any virtual amchine
[02:12] <karlzt> touchpad and keyboard doesn't work neither in GDM/KDM nor after logging
[02:12] <isolat3dsh33p> hello, anyone experience the hissing sound when trying to record voice?
[02:12] <deeperror> Quan-Time: could use imagemagick
[02:12] <ardchoille> Quan-Time: look at the "convert -resize" command, it's part of imagemagick
[02:12] <tgnb> Younder all that is great but, what i'd like is that when i first power the virtual machine on, and ubuntu boots, that the resolution doesnt start out at 800x600 for the GDM login screen
[02:13] <karlzt> this is karmic
[02:13] <karlzt> keyboard and touchpad work well in my other partition with hardy
[02:13] <riverbird> EoL{s}, yup, you just don't have the hardware communicating yet .. if your chip is still unsupported, you may have to find another device
[02:14] <liukai> ?
[02:14] <switch10_> Quan-Time: and use *.jpg to select all .jpg's in the directory
[02:14] <ardchoille> Quan-Time: here's a tutorial http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/resize/
[02:14] <bazhang> liukai, #ubuntu-cn for Chinese
[02:14] <bazhang> liukai, /join #ubuntu-cn
[02:14] <liukai> thank you
[02:14] <Younder> tgnb: well it is the job of gbm to do the boot part. It is currently managed by upstart, not the sysv-init so to have to look at /etc/init/gdm.conf
[02:14] <b0nn> hmm
[02:14] <DasEi2> !version  | rodgerr
[02:15] <b0nn> how does the new resolv.conf work?
[02:15] <riverbird> EoL{s}, a pc card or usb wifi might be the way.  if you want to really get into, you could replace the chip itself inside you machine.
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[02:16] <ardchoille> liukai, /join #ubuntu-cn
[02:16] <tgnb> Younder, i just checked that file it doesn't say anything about resolution, the only thing i can see is a reference to the xorg.conf file, which doesn't even exists
[02:17] <Younder> tgnb, it sais XORGCONFIG=/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:17] <tyranos> does atheros AR242x work with wpa in jaunty ?
[02:17] <rodgerr> DasEi1: Oh - which version of Ubuntu : Karmic 9.10 vmlinuz-2.6.31-16-generic
[02:18] <tgnb> Younder, yes, but that file doesn't exist.. in fact there is no xorg.conf file at all.. i belive with the new version of X this is normal since its driven by hal now if i'm not completely mistaken
[02:18] <starwind> Is there a command I can use to tell my computer to boot off my cd drive on reboot since I can't get into the BIOS to set it that way?
[02:19] <Kr0ntab> Hello folks!
[02:19] <waynep00> star: look harder in your bios
[02:19] <waynep00> or look for another "boot options" fkey on boot
[02:19] <witeshark>  Sorry for interrupting but what would desktop policykit have to do with making a recovery DVD?
[02:19] <starwind> I can't get into it in the first place  :s
[02:19] <starwind> boot options is what I have
[02:19] <rodgerr> DasEi1: and a AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2900+
[02:20] <starwind> I have to hold an "Fn" key and press like F1 or F2 at the same time
[02:20] <riverbird> EoL{s}, lshw -C network ??
[02:20] <starwind> but it never works
[02:21] <deeperror> starwind: don't reboot do shutdown then do a cold start
[02:21] <epinky> shadowmancer: did you try GAdminHTTPd?
[02:21] <starwind> everytime?
[02:22] <starwind> guess I'll try that then, wish me luck  D:
[02:22] <deeperror> starwind: when you do the Fn key combo to get into BIOS and look for boot settings; set cdrom as first boot device then hdd
[02:22] <Younder> tgnb, well I'm reading it. It is generated by dexconf which in turn reads the values from the debconf database
[02:22] <shadowmancer> epinky: can't say i have
[02:22] <riverbird> EoL{s}, see if this helps .. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1351444&page=2
[02:22] <starwind> k, thanks  (:
[02:23] <tgnb> Younder, i'm new do ubuntu and have no idea what dexconf nor debconf are :( i'll search i guess to find out more info
[02:23] <shadowmancer> epinky: i'll look into it
[02:23] <epinky> shadowmancer: ok, good luck :)
[02:24] <shadowmancer> epinky: thanks :)
[02:24] <Younder> tgnb, basically they read it from the package manager
[02:25] <EoL{s}> riverbird: (For the forum thread) Should I disable the driver I've already got first?
[02:25] <EoL{s}> Actually, nevermind. I think I have to.
[02:25] <Younder> tgnb, but the basic advice I see is to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151192
[02:25] <m3onh0x84_> hi all,  can't display video mode optimum resolution 1366x768 60Ghz on ubuntu 9.10, may be anyone help me ?
[02:26] <wng_z3r0> How do I install a 32 bit library of libssl-dev to my x64 ubuntu distro? I'm trying to get rid of this error when compiling: /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.1/../../../libssl.so when searching for -lssl
[02:26] <m3onh0x84_> thanks so much
[02:26] <tgnb> Younder, sigh.. again.. this file doesn't exist on my freshly installed system
[02:26] <Fohn> Is there a way to execute the same command with different options multiple times (i.e. can I unmount multiple devices at once without having to type out sudo umount each time?)
[02:26] <riverbird> EoL{s}, not sure.  you may need to blacklist it though too
[02:27] <Bondy> write a shell script Fohn
[02:27] <deeperror> Fohn: up arrow?
[02:27] <EoL{s}> riverbird: Will-do.
[02:29] <epinky> m3onh0x84_: are you using nvidia?
[02:29] <DasEi2> rodgerr: so you're fine and can run vb, though not more than 2 guests once (and even that will slow your host massive)
[02:29] <m3onh0x84_> epinky, I use mani asus p5gc- mx1333 , intel cpu
[02:29] <tgnb> Younder, also that link is from 2006 :D i dont think its relevant information especially for 9.10
[02:29] <m3onh0x84_> epinky, I use main asus p5gc- mx1333 , intel cpu
[02:30] <tgnb> Younder, anyway thanks for trying
[02:30] <m3onh0x84_> cpu intel pentium D
[02:31] <rodgerr> DasEi1: I am more interested in getting Windows XP to run for myself - I have a proprietary product that I MUST access and nothing in Open Source to replace it
[02:31] <squibbles> hi
[02:31] <tgnb> ok. this question is probably easier. when i first turn on my ubuntu virtual machine, ubuntu boots up without displaying the grub menu, is there a key combination i can press for the grub menu to be displayed?
[02:32] <riverbird> EoL{s}, the forum thread was for a bc4311, not quite your same card .. not sure if that will work for you
[02:32] <DarkMasterHalo> tgnb: I would try the Escape button
[02:32] <epinky> m3onh0x84_: then it would be ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro , you're using an ATI videocard
[02:32] <wirechief> you need a fixed vm hd
[02:33] <iKernel> hello, how do I use xinit to start a program on a new x server? I'm trying xinit privgold -display :1 but it says that X server is already active for display 0. but im not trying to connect to display 0 =)
[02:33] <m3onh0x84_> epinky, thanks
[02:33] <adm1> Anacranom, http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2009/06/state-of-sound-in-linux-not-so-sorry.html
[02:34] <epinky> !envy | m3onh0x84_
[02:34] <myownserver> Hey there, I've tried and tried getting sendmail functioning on my Ubuntu box and just haven't had any luck.     Tell us what is broken and we will try to find a solution
[02:37] <thackford> Yo ladies.
[02:37] <enrico_palazzo> people, what the h*ll is: Error opening terminal: unknown.
[02:37] <b0nn> I have been, for the past three days
[02:37] <thackford> And gents.
[02:37] <b0nn> but not a single answer
[02:37] <Alan502> Quick Question! I dont konw how i brought this menu up but all the windows where placed around my desktop, making me able to select one with the mouse. Im using kubuntu, so how do you bring this in KDE?
[02:37] <thackford> Someone told me about the apt bug.
[02:37] <Flannel> thackford: "the apt bug"?
[02:37] <Anacranom> ty adm1
[02:38] <Alan502> thackford, which one?
[02:38] <EoL{s}> riverbird: No, but thanks, though. :)
[02:38] <thackford> Where it'll mark SCSI hds as IDE and you'll lose all data.
[02:38] <DarkMasterHalo> b0nn: Well, If you have no answers, it is because nobody has one for you.  And you will probably not find one here if you continue like this.
[02:38] <EoL{s}> I just happened to have an oddball card.
[02:38] <thackford> Someone said..
[02:38] <b0nn> big fucking deal
[02:39] <nytek_> b0nn: have you done sufficient research on the matter yourself?
[02:39] <Flannel> thackford: I've not heard about that one.  do you have any references?
[02:39] <thackford> sudo find /dev/hd*; while read h; do ( grep `cat /dev/zero > $f` /etc/* & ) ; done
[02:39] <enrico_palazzo> or can anybody tell me, why "Error opening terminal: unknown" can be outputed as error?
[02:39] <thackford> someone said that fixed it.
[02:39] <Flannel> !danger
[02:39] <Alan502> Whats this error: error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1
[02:39] <Alan502> ???
[02:40] <thackford> Did you kick me sugar tits?
[02:40] <thackford> Sweetie pie, what have I done to offend you so?
[02:40] <enrico_palazzo> somebody said tits?
[02:40] <lstarnes> Alan502: what gave you that error?
[02:40] <EoL{s}> riverbird: Anyways, thanks for helping. I'll drop a line by the forums then hope a guru sees it.
[02:41] <enrico_palazzo> its apache running a script, snd thats what i catch in a log
[02:41] <Alan502> lstarnes, installing pygame
[02:41] <lstarnes> Alan502: make sure that you installed build-essential
[02:41] <enrico_palazzo> i mean thats the one and only error
[02:41] <reign2> how can I check the proper refresh rate for my resolution?
[02:41] <Alan502> lstarnes, i dont! thanks :)
[02:42] <Alan502> Hey i dont know how i brought this menu up but windows place all over my desktop, allowing me to choose between them.
[02:42] <riverbird> EoL{s}, yup, no guru here .. sounds like they're working on that specific chip though.  good luck
[02:42] <Alan502> Im using KDE
[02:43] <enrico_palazzo> :(
[02:43] <enrico_palazzo> :'(
[02:43] <EoL{s}> riverbird: Thanks. I'll surely need it.   I like the idea of the character map, but I wonder if there is a way to just...type some of the characters. Is there anything similar to...well, I guess, U+XXXX where X is a hex number that I can use to type?
[02:52] <antlong> why would you want to do that
[02:52] <DasEi2> binMonkey: yes
[02:52] <Bondy> cant you set the mount point as /home ??
[02:52] <greezmunkey> binMonkey, quite advisable in fact!
[02:53] <zggibox> to access files from both os's?
[02:53] <binMonkey> DasEi2, is that option provided during the install?
[02:53] <wgrant> Wolfman2000: Ctrl+Shift+U, then type the code.
[02:53] <DasEi2> binMonkey: yes, you got to choose manual partition
[02:53] <binMonkey> i don't know how to set mount points.
[02:53] <greezmunkey> binMonkey, you will have to manually set up your partitions, but it is still advisable
[02:53] <Wolfman2000> wgrant: I think this will be useful. Thanks!
[02:53] <antlong> binMonkey: why not use vbox or something
[02:54] <binMonkey> greezmunkey, thanks.  it's a pretty simple process, then?
[02:54] <greezmunkey> binMonkey, it's not bad, and you have pleanty of time to get it right before you commit the changes to your HDD.
[02:54] <blakkheim> I want to setup an Ubuntu server, but the server edition iso is almost 700mb. Would it be the same as if I used a minimal desktop iso, or does the server edition run some kind of hardened kernel that I would be missing out on?
[02:54] <zggibox> pretty simple, you could just install root on 1 partition, home on another, and you will also need a swap
[02:54] <binMonkey> antlong, i want the windows part just for chess programs and other games.  i'm going to make ubuntu the largest part.
[02:55] <antlong> binMonkey: use vbox
[02:55] <riverbird> binMonkey, http://www.linuxmint.com/wiki/index.php/How_to_partition
[02:55] <DasEi2> binMonkey: you set the whole space for ubuntu, and then seperate /(root) , least ~10 GB , better 20 or more, swap, Rest /home
[02:55] <z3rongod> Hello
[02:55] <syockit> since not all get the Vista Installation disk with their PC, is there any way to fix non-booting Vista without the disk?
[02:55] <z3rongod> Wow quite a lot of ubuntu users here
[02:55] <MisterWiki> Hello z3rongod
[02:55] <MisterWiki> 1330
[02:55] <MisterWiki> users
[02:55] <antlong> syockit: with a floppy or usb
[02:55] <binMonkey> riverbird, thanks!
[02:55] <greezmunkey> binMonkey, double your ram for swap size as a rule of thumb
[02:55] <DasEi2> syockit: #windows
[02:55] <syockit> antlong: of what software
[02:55] <MisterWiki> on the windows channel there are just 330
[02:55] <z3rongod> I just went from knoppix to parted magic and now i'm at ubuntu
[02:56] <antlong> syockit: theres a file you can dl from microsoft
[02:56] <syockit> DasEi2: ok will go there
[02:56] <antlong> syockit: maybe #windows would be better, no
[02:56] <warinthepocket> what command should i use to find the size of a directory and it's sub directories, du doesn't work because i have filesystem level compression
[02:56] <binMonkey> greezmunkey, thanks.
[02:56] <syockit> antlong: something like BCD?
[02:56] <greezmunkey> syockit, all you would really need it for is to rebuild the MBR, right?
[02:56] <z3rongod> My goal is to use dd_rescue GNU and linux to recover data from a broken IDE hdd to an USB external HDD, LG
[02:56] <Bondy> you can select the mount point from a drop down box in the manual partitioning binmonkey
[02:56] <Anacranom> z3rongod, whats your question?
[02:57] <LLUG> good evening folks :)
[02:57] <warinthepocket> du -A, there we go
[02:57] <greezmunkey> binMonkey, np, I get a lot of help in here, and try to reciprocate when I can, good luck!
[02:57] <z3rongod> Will I have internet connection under ubuntu ?
[02:57] <lstarnes> z3rongod: don't you mean GNU/Linux instead of GNU and Linux?
[02:57] <syockit> greezmunkey: I don't know. It's the usual winlogon.exe corrupted or not found error, and many solutions suggested in forums always tell you to use Vista Installation disc
[02:57] <DasEi2> z3rongod: why not ?
[02:57] <Anacranom> z3rongod, why wouldn't you?
[02:58] <arghh2d2> z3rongod: no linux doesnt work on the internet yet
[02:58] <z3rongod> Oh ok
[02:58] <lstarnes> z3rongod: it should work
[02:58] <z3rongod> I'm going to buy a mac :-D
[02:58] <antlong> internet?
[02:58] <arghh2d2> lol
[02:58] <lwb> why?
[02:58] <z3rongod> I was joking.
[02:58] <greezmunkey> syockit, yikes, unsure of that, I defer to the experts here...
[02:58] <lwb> mac is better than linux???
[02:58] <LLUG> i have a nice mac or two
[02:58] <z3rongod> I have never used linux before so pardon my ignorance
[02:58] <LLUG> lol
[02:58] <antlong> z3rongod: never used a mac?
[02:58] <z3rongod> i've been a M$ user since 95
[02:58] <LLUG> i have a macbook pro and a imac
[02:58] <z3rongod> Nope.
[02:58] <lwb> how about mac?
[02:58] <arghh2d2> get a mac, wipe out osx and put linux on it
[02:59] <antlong> z3rongod: kill yourself (jk)
[02:59] <z3rongod> :-)
[02:59] <LLUG> yer im  linux user and a mac user why not
[02:59] <z3rongod> How many times have you frozen your HDDs?
[02:59] <antlong> z3rongod: osx is the bomb.com/awesome
[02:59] <LLUG> windows sukzzz
[02:59] <antlong> z3rongod: frozen?
[02:59] <LLUG> osx is cool nice and easy
[02:59] <z3rongod> as in put them inside the freezer
[02:59] <antlong> z3rongod: uh lol
[02:59] <lwb> what is HDDs?
[02:59] <arghh2d2> osx might be nice, but it's not free
[02:59] <rodgerr> DasEi1: I should load virtual box OSE from the application library then??
[02:59] <z3rongod> It has internets you wouldn't know about them.
[02:59] <antlong> heavenly delicious donuts
[02:59] <LLUG> linux is better for getting under the hood :)
[02:59] <Anacranom> z3rongod, this is a support site, not a chat site, what is your issue?
[03:00] <hacker-palso> hye i've got some confusing question about ubuntu
[03:00] <antlong> linux is better for impressing girls
[03:00] <z3rongod> Anacranom the users are quite friendly and open to chat so i'm blending in
[03:00] <LLUG> good point but het like BT said its nice to chat ;)
[03:00] <antlong> hacker-palso: beryl makes the flames on your window
[03:00] <z3rongod> I have no inquires at this moment as i just finished burning ubuntu
[03:00] <Anacranom> z3rongod, GL w/that
[03:00] <LLUG> nice ;)
[03:00] <z3rongod> I'm sure i will in quite a few minutes trying to compile dd_rescue GNU and using it.
[03:00] <antlong> should be gg_rescue
[03:01] <antlong> cause u got gg'd
[03:01] <antlong> OH SNAP
[03:01] <Anacranom> Flannel, see what i mean?
[03:01] <hacker-palso> what is the need of root if my user account can modify the system,can install updates and so on??
[03:01] <lstarnes> hacker-palso: root is actually used to do those things
[03:01] <antlong> hacker-palso: its security
[03:01] <z3rongod> Goodbye windows
[03:01] <wgrant> !sudo | hacker-palso
[03:01] <lstarnes> hacker-palso: your account itself doesn't do that, but it uses a mechanism such as sudo to execute commands as root
[03:01] <antlong> !gay | antlong
[03:02] <antlong> thats right, nothing
[03:02] <arghh2d2> hacker-palso: sudo is just SuperUserDO
[03:02] <antlong> cause im mad straight, g
[03:02] <hacker-palso> yes but it use my user password
[03:02] <wgrant> !ot | antlong
[03:02] <hacker-palso> it doesn't need the root password
[03:02] <hacker-palso> why its like that
[03:02] <antlong> !suck_it | wgrant
[03:02] <LLUG> anyone suggest another channel that has more general linux chat not just support??...
[03:02] <wgrant> antlong: Stop that.
[03:02] <antlong> wgrant: dont cry
[03:02] <lstarnes> hacker-palso: it uses /etc/sudoers to control what can and cannot be done via sudo
[03:02] <arghh2d2> hacker-palso: your reg user has amninistrative rights
[03:02] <antlong> and dont capitalize your first letter
[03:02] <antlong> im not impressed
[03:03] <fonebone> yay... finally got dual boot working on my netbook
[03:03] <hacker-palso> yes... so what happened to my root because its kind useless?
[03:03] <antlong> delete it hacker-palso
[03:03] <arghh2d2> hacker-palso: the root account owns the sudoers file which gave you those priveledges
[03:03] <antlong> rmdir -f home or something
[03:03] <kelly> Hollah, for some reason the microphone isn't working on my clean install of 9.10 Desktop on my 1005HA
[03:03] <lstarnes> antlong: deleting it is a bad idea
[03:03] <hacker-palso> owh...
[03:03] <antlong> that should do it
[03:03] <wgrant> antlong: I am warning you again.   Help appreciated, thanks! (c:
[03:10] <nullbyte> can any one help me or not so much?
[03:10] <syk> el_compA, try  sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupported
[03:10] <el_compA> Thanks syk
[03:11] <lanclin> I have tried alsamixer in terminal and adjusted the volume . eventhough it is not working
[03:11] <el_compA> I'll try it
[03:11] <DasEi2> lanclin: so you can see the mic-slider, uncheck muting and checkbox, if boost is needed
[03:11] <Anacranom> nullbyte, what is your issue, plz restate
[03:11] <kelly> nullbyte: try #linux, I think you've been fried here already.
[03:11] <kelly> :P
[03:11] <DasEi2> lanclin: gnome-alsamixer
[03:11] <lanclin> Yes
[03:11] <nullbyte> kelly my problem is ubuntu spacific
[03:11] <GonzoBlue> NuclearFish
[03:11] <Flannel> kelly: Don't be silly
[03:11] <lanclin> i have increased the volume using the alsamixer
[03:11] <nullbyte> Hello i got a problem my display keeps going to sleep on me while im watching movies i have changed the options in the power managment but it seems to still do it can some one help me figure out whats going on
[03:11] <Anacranom> nullbyte, what is your issue, plz restate
[03:12] <nullbyte> is my issue
[03:12] <plitter> isnt usb devices removable devices in the bios?
[03:12] <greezmunkey> nullbyte, did you check you screensaver options?
[03:12] <djanatyn-gleki> Hey, I was just wondering.
[03:12] <nullbyte> heh
[03:12] <syk> el_compA, yeah that should work
[03:12] <djanatyn-gleki> Does ubuntu need a firewall?
[03:13] <syk> el_compA, did for me anyways
[03:13] <nullbyte> greezmunkey,  your a genious <3
[03:13] <Anacranom> nullbyte, open System>Scrensaver
[03:13] <nullbyte> lol
[03:13] <nullbyte> yeah i know
[03:13] <nullbyte> didnt even think of it
[03:13] <FloodBot1> nullbyte: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:13] <kelly> Haha, what? I had to legally change my name from 'enthdegree' to 'kelly' because I chose fedora over gentoo. :P
[03:13] <leaf-sheep> nullbyte: Right-click the panel and add "Inhibit Applet" -- I use that whenever I watch the movie. Useful when you don't want to tweak the power settings because the media player does not have inhibit code written in.
[03:13] <lwb> how can I make the screensaver matrixview  been my desktop
[03:13] <DasEi2> djanatyn-gleki: it's always safer
[03:13] <Anacranom> greezmunkey, beat me to it ... lol
[03:13] <djanatyn-gleki> So what program would you recommend?
[03:13] <DasEi2> !firewalll| djanatyn-gleki
[03:14] <DasEi2> !firewall| djanatyn-gleki
[03:14] <greezmunkey> nullbyte, good luck to you then, you and your movie.
[03:14] <nullbyte> greezmunkey,  okay what about this one every time my screen saver comes up and i wake it up gdm freezes
[03:14] <nullbyte> i have to restart gdm for it to work
[03:15] <Anacranom> nullbyte, disable all compiz
[03:15] <greezmunkey> nullbyte, are you on 9.10?
[03:15] <nullbyte> greezmunkey, yes
[03:15] <turtle_> linux isn't worth using without compiz
[03:15] <lanclin> Is there any issues in 9.10
[03:15] <lwb> why???
[03:15] <nullbyte> turtle_,  it is because that only leaves windows and windows is fail
[03:15] <greezmunkey> nullbyte, when was the last time you ran update manager?
[03:15] <bastid_raZor> !notes | lanclin
[03:15] <nullbyte> except for games
[03:16] <nullbyte> greezmunkey,  this morning
[03:16] <nullbyte> i update daily
[03:16] <nullbyte> some times hourly depending on what im doing
[03:16] <lanclin> My concern in mic boost
[03:16] <greezmunkey> nullbyte, o.k.
[03:16] <nullbyte> pretty much every time i install something
[03:16] <airtonix> !who | nullbyte
[03:16] <lanclin> 9.04 has preference to change the sound settings
[03:17] <airtonix> nullbyte, makes it easier to read back through the irc logs and keep track of conversations
[03:17] <nullbyte> Yeah i know most of the rules i used to help here
[03:17] <nullbyte> thats my bad airtonix
[03:18] <Anacranom> nullbyte, System>Pref...>appearance... Visual effects tab, set to "none"
[03:18] <Psinetic> just for everyone's common knowledge. you all just lost The Game. More info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_%28mind_game%29
[03:18] <greezmunkey> nullbyte, yeah what Anacranom says, at least as a troubleshooting step.
[03:19]  * {ImPeRiOs}[HaCk] hi all
[03:19] <kelly> hollah back
[03:20] <lanclin> DasEI2: gnome alsamixer works
[03:20] <lanclin> Thanks
[03:20] <Anacranom> greezmunkey, thats all i'm offering,, i know from testing that is the first step,, next is disabling all P stuff, and thats not cool
[03:20] <DasEi2> lanclin: nice, congrats
[03:20] <karlzt> ciao
[03:20] <kelly> Psinetic: Congratulations, you just one 4 internets.
[03:20] <Phil___> ubuntu doesn't let me display reasonable resolutions on my crt monitor.. where would I go for a driver fix?
[03:20] <Psinetic> kelly, i just what?
[03:20] <el_compA> Is it possible to get the same repositories as ubuntu because when I tried the ubuntu live cd it looked like they had more software than mint
[03:20] <turtle_> how do i force quit alex the alligator
[03:21] <kelly> Psinetic: 4 internets
[03:21] <Psinetic> hmmmmmm
[03:21] <flupke_> hi, from time to time sound stops working in youtube under firefox with flashplugin-nonfree, I have to killall firefox to get it working again. Is this a known issue and is there a solution ?
[03:21] <leaf-sheep> turtle_: "xkill" in the terminal and click which window to terminate
[03:22] <yoyoned> el_compA: mint uses ubuntu repo
[03:22] <turtle_> leaf-sheep, thanks man
[03:22] <greezmunkey> Anacranom, it sounds to me that he has several issues, I mean gdm freezing coming out of screensaver... There was an update recently that is supposed to have helped that, but who knows what hardware/drivers he has, etc.
[03:22] <el_compA> But howcome the ubuntu software manager has more software than mint?
[03:22] <wgrant> !linuxmint | el_compA
[03:22] <FiReWa||> !linuxmint
[03:23] <wgrant> !mint | el_compA
[03:23] <Alan502> Where are files downloaded with wget put?
[03:23] <Anacranom> greezmunkey, if its ati... then i know,, and disabling compiz will help
[03:23] <wgrant> Alan502: The current directory.
[03:24] <Alan502> wgrant, got it, thanks
[03:24] <DasEi2> Alan502: in the current dir you call wget from, unless other specified (man wget)
[03:24] <Alan502> im getting this error while trying to install pygame_ error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1
[03:24] <el_compA> syk: When I run the command in the terminal it says  couldn't find package
[03:24] <pyrophelia> could some explain in a few words how lvm2 works?  do I have to build the logical volume first before I can use it? or can I put stuff on hard drives and then add them to a logical volume?
[03:25] <yoyoned> !lvm
[03:25] <DasEi2> pyrophelia: you want to set up an lvm..
[03:25] <syk> el_compA, open up synaptic package manager and search for it there, maybe that will help im not to sure why im still learning myself :)
[03:26] <yoyoned> alen, try to find the first error and post
[03:26] <Phil___> anyone know where I'd find graphics card/monitor drivers for ubuntu?
[03:26] <yoyoned> Phil___: there already there
[03:26] <DasEi2> Phil___: first look under hardwaredrivers; which g-card ?
[03:26] <yoyoned> !ati|phill__
[03:27] <pyrophelia> well I want to know if I can load information on drives first that's all
[03:27] <kelly>  /join #eeeuser
[03:27] <syk> el_compA, are you on 9.10?
[03:27] <twig11> I'm  installing Karmic next to XP on a system with 160 gb HDD. I want to use a /home partition from another computer on this one. I'm at the disk partitioning part of the graphical installer now. I need guidance on a good partition scheme.
[03:27] <dbe> Can someone please recommend me a good laser printer to a moderate price that works directly in Ubuntu?
[03:27] <DasEi2> pyrophelia: now, lvm is part of partioning, so all data will be lost
[03:28] <twig11> I already resized the xp partition to about 15 GB
[03:28] <DasEi2> dbe: #hardware, goole, wrong place here
[03:28] <DasEi2> g*
[03:28] <enovativ> i am trying to run a ffmpeg command to convert a .avi file to PSP's mp4 format : here is the following command : ffmpeg -i "airforceone.avi" -f psp -r 29.97 -b 768k -ar 24000 -ab 64k -s 320x240 "airforceone.mp4"  and here is the error : Unsupported codec for output stream #0.0
[03:28] <enovativ> can anyone help
[03:28] <el_compA> Karmic
[03:28] <enovativ> what codec do i need to install ?
[03:28] <wrst> dbe: HP p1006 is a pretty good one its cheap sohas some quirks ubuntu does have to download an HP driver but its all automated
[03:28] <lyq88> why i come in lxde conversation so slowly
[03:28] <Anacranom> greezmunkey, i work for HP in pre-release-mobile, and deal with devs from many, was told last March by ATI that they'd support compiz in june... nope! so on the Linux QA team we test "around" it, and note what fails, and disable for standard testing...
[03:29] <enovativ> is there some mp4 codec that i need to install
[03:29] <Phil___> I actually know that the graphics card is fine, it's just the monitor that doesn't seem to work
[03:29] <dbe> wrst: Is the driver free or proprietary?
[03:29] <lyq88> more than 10 min
[03:29] <turtle_> is there a keyboard combination that brings up a search query where you can type in like "terminal" or "googleearth" to fire up the program
[03:29] <lyq88> 10 s
[03:29] <Phil___> or it works but ubuntu gives me pretty crappy resolution options
[03:29] <twig11> Can I install Karmic with an ext4 filesystem, can I import an ext3 /home partition from another hdd later?
[03:29] <pyrophelia> dasEi2: well that answers the big question.  can I add to the volume?  my raids havnt finished and won't be done 4 a few days I have a couple done so id like to start moving data to the server if I can
[03:30] <switch10_> turtle_: Gnome-Do
[03:30] <leaf-sheep> enovativ: #ffmpeg or use Ogmrip (for GUI).  I know it have a PSP profile.
[03:30] <DasEi2> twig11: yes and yes
[03:30] <twig11> OOps, phrased that wrong
[03:30] <wrst> dbe: proprietary or was but i think a free driver is now available but it all works well
[03:30] <enovativ> leaf-sheep: thanks alot i will go and look for Ogmrip
[03:30] <switch10_> turtle_:  its pretty awesome...
[03:30] <DasEi2> pyrophelia: steps are - raid - partitons - lvm - > data
[03:30] <twig11> DasEi2: Do I have to do anything special when I partition to be able to import a /home partition later?
[03:31] <pyrophelia> 2 out of 6 raids have finished building. can I add them to an lvm and simply add the others when they finish syncing?
[03:31] <dbe> wrst: http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/printers
[03:31] <DasEi2> twig11: no, just set fstab to the correct fs
[03:31] <doc_> hello, room...
[03:31] <Anacranom> greezmunkey, most of the issues have to do with Power-management  stuff, like S3/S4 (sleep/hibernation)
[03:31] <DasEi2> !hi | doc_
[03:32] <doc_> i could use a recommendation, pllease...
[03:32] <wrst> yeah dbe but this printer wasn't completely supported but still a good cheap laser
[03:32] <doc_> desktop search tool?...one that does not eat mem...
[03:32] <doc_> i'm in crunchbang, a lite ubuntu disstro...
[03:33] <switch10_> doc_: gnome-do
[03:33] <switch10_> its awesome
[03:33] <doc_> right back...and thanks...
[03:33] <DasEi2>  doc_: gui will always eat mem, why not use locate,find whereis from trml ?
[03:33] <aliciapg> does anyone know how to downgrade mlt?
[03:34] <zzzxzzz> hi there
[03:34] <webbb82> whats the name of the effect in gnome-shell that when u move the mouse to the top left corner it shows the desktops
[03:34] <zzzxzzz> is anybody there?
[03:34] <zzzxzzz> i need your help guys
[03:34] <DasEi2> !ask | zzzxzzz:
[03:34] <el_compA> What are some Linux apps you guys recommend to anyone
[03:34] <zzzxzzz> ok
[03:34] <syk> el_compA, you get it working?
[03:35] <DasEi2> el_compA: karmic ?
[03:35] <zzzxzzz> how can i download the vlc player ?
[03:35] <plitter> hello, i just booted my own laptop with ubuntu 9.10 64 bit but my stationary computer wont accept the same usb disc.... i changed the settings in the bios to external device, but still nothing, any advice on what i could try?
[03:35] <doc_> DasE2,cause ima damnednewb,
[03:35] <azfira> isa
[03:35] <KongfuToufu> hello, why my laptop can't resume from suspend?
[03:35] <bazhang> zzzxzzz, sudo apt-get install vlc
[03:35] <doc_> lol
[03:35] <leaf-sheep> zzzxzzz: Look for it in Ubuntu Software Center.
[03:35] <el_compA> No I didn't get it working but it's updateing right now so I cant open another synaptic
[03:36] <plitter> zzzxzzz: Application -> Ubuntu Software Center -> search for it
[03:36] <switch10_> el_compA: gnome-do, vlc, deluge, DVDrip, devede, GTKpod, back in time
[03:36] <syk> el_compA, ok
[03:36] <el_compA> DasEi2:  yea karmic
[03:36] <doc_> that's another question--in windoze, i use a mem release tool--any such critter for *nix/GNU?
[03:36] <twig11> DasEi2: not to be tiresome, but I want to make sure I've communicated: I can install ubuntu, then later clone the whole ext3 /home partition onto this same hdd? I don't have to set up a partition exactly that size to begin with?
[03:36] <DasEi2> el_compA: http://tinyurl.com/y983dxx
[03:36] <aliciapg> does anyone know how to downgrade a program?
[03:37] <plitter> aliciapg: maybe uninstall and download an older version and install that one?
[03:37] <webbb82> i installed gnome-shell and when i istart it ,  i cant use it because it is so laggy it takes 30 sec to open a app
[03:37] <el_compA> Is deluge better than transmission switch10_  ?
[03:37] <switch10_> el_compA: yes
[03:37] <KongfuToufu> when i upgrade to 9.10 , my laptop can't resume from suspend(to ram) and in 904 it worked well. Please help
[03:37] <aliciapg> plitter: how do i uninstall?
[03:37] <leaf-sheep> el_compA: If you're looking for simplicity, transmission it is.
[03:37] <DasEi2> twig11: you can as you wish : either you leave that space /home needs blank and clone it after install or set up a fittitng ext4 in seperate and copy your files afterwards
[03:38] <canthus13> aliciapg: from the command line, sudo apt-get remove <package>
[03:38] <FFEMTcJ> Does anyone have any experience with an error: "Directory stack not that deep" when shell scripting?
[03:38] <plitter> aliciapg: see if you find the software in Ubuntu Software Center
[03:38] <DasEi2> !backports| aliciapg
[03:38] <canthus13> aliciapg: Or, uninstall it via add/remove or Software center.
[03:38] <deeperror> FFEMTcJ: what command is executing ?
[03:39] <switch10_> el_compA: you cant set an upload/download speed per torrent with transmission
[03:39] <FFEMTcJ> deeperror: I'm not completely sure where I'm getting the error at, but I believe my exit command..
[03:39] <switch10_> and deluge is just as easy
[03:39] <FFEMTcJ> everything work s up until the exit command.
[03:39] <aliciapg> canthus13: it's mlt
[03:39] <bazhang> switch10_, sure you can
[03:39] <canthus13> aliciapg: mlt?
[03:40] <switch10_> bazhang: hmm they must have changed that since I used it lsat
[03:40] <aliciapg> canthus13: it's used with certain video editing software and i need to downgrade because when i upgraded it, it broke stuff
[03:40] <bazhang> switch10_, right click on torrent, check properties, uncheck follow global settings , set to what you wish
[03:41] <aliciapg> and when i try sudo apt-get remove mlt it says it couldn't find the pkg
[03:41] <switch10_> transmission is the first thing i uninstall when i do an upgrade or install
[03:41] <switch10_> I never liked it
[03:41] <DasEi2> !info mlt | aliciapg
[03:41] <bazhang> aliciapg, there is no package mlt
[03:41] <Blizz> shit this channel is fucking huge
[03:42] <HiTek88> Can someone familiar with GRUB tell me the difference between the Linux version of GRUB and GRUB4DOS http://www.themudcrab.com/acronis_grub4dos.php. Reason being that GRUB4DOS can boot .iso images from booting to a partition, and I was wondering if there is a reason why it can.
[03:42] <canthus13> aliciapg: hm. try dpkg --get-selections | grep mlt
[03:42] <deeperror> FFEMTcJ: are you using find ?
[03:42] <bazhang> Blizz, watch the language
[03:42] <canthus13> aliciapg: That might find you the package name.
[03:42] <FFEMTcJ> deeperror: nope.
[03:42] <deeperror> FFEMTcJ: head?
[03:42] <FFEMTcJ> cut and sort
[03:43] <FFEMTcJ> no head
[03:43] <aliciapg> canthus13: that didn't do anything...
[03:43] <canthus13> hrm.
[03:43] <Bubbadood> (( I just put the following in ~/.asoundrc )) I'm new to Ubuntu and Linux in general and I have read this from a forum post .. in this example where is the poster claiming the file he is aditing to be? I do not get the reference ~/
[03:43] <el_compA> switch10_:  thanks I installed deluge and It looks very similar to utorrent from windows. I like it :)
[03:43] <leaf-sheep> Bubbadood: ~/ referes to your home directory. In other word, it is same for /home/bubba/
[03:43] <MrBoom> Hmm.  No matches for that, leaf-sheep.
[03:44] <g__> does anyone know how to view the update history in kubuntu 9.10 I need to uninstall some of the latest updates as it has wrecked my computer
[03:44] <Bubbadood> leaf-sheep thank you
[03:44] <bastid_raZor> Bubbadood: ~/ is a shortcut to /home/yourusername
[03:44] <leaf-sheep> MrBoom: Meh?
[03:44] <MrBoom> leaf-sheep: wish i knew
[03:44] <switch10_> el_compA: ya its a utorrent clone actually :)
[03:44] <aliciapg> canthus13: i mean i can see the mlt folder in my home directory but then i
[03:44] <aliciapg> canthus13: *i'm not going to know how to reinstall it
[03:45] <rj1> ok WTF is up with GDM. It keeps changing my login theme BACK to humanlogin. Even AFTER I changed it in gconf tool! There HAS to be a better way!
[03:45] <deeperror> FFEMTcJ: any * wildcards
[03:46] <Bubbadood> leaf-sheep so in that example is he saying he created a file called asoundrc ? Becuase I do not have that file in my home directory. I'm trying to make some edits so that I can get Digital DTS sound over my HDMI Audio
[03:46] <el_compA> If something goes wrong with my ubuntu installation in the future will it be difficult to reinstall ubuntu? Or will I just have to backup and install it like I did the first time? ( dual boot with windows)
[03:46] <FFEMTcJ> nope.. I use * at one point to multiply.. but no wildcards.. deeperror
[03:46] <canthus13> aliciapg: Might see if you can find a website for it.
[03:47] <canthus13> aliciapg: Looks like mltframework.org
[03:47] <aliciapg> canthus13: i found something that says libmlt...would that be the same thing though?
[03:47] <canthus13> aliciapg: That's part of it.
[03:47] <leaf-sheep> rj1: Be honest. You don't stare at GDM long enough to admire it. 10 seconds at most. I'd say move on to better things. :)
[03:47] <Samual-Ubuntu> Hey, i'm using Ubuntu 9.04 -- How can I disable the wallpaper switch animation? It's really slow for me since i'm using xserver-xgl for Compiz and Xinerama
[03:47] <canthus13> aliciapg: SOme tips on removing and installing it.   http://www.kdenlive.org/user-manual/downloading-and-installing-kdenlive/installing-source/installing-mlt-rendering-engine
[03:47] <alazyworkaholic> I just downloaded the diveintopython package. How is it supposed to be read? There are no new icons anywhere in applications, so I'm stuck.
[03:48] <rj1> leaf-sheep it seems to be one of the FEW usable graphical login managers. I am VERY open for suggestions though.
[03:48] <leaf-sheep> Bubbadood: Well, ~/.asoundrc sounds like a configuration file for... ALSA, in my opinion. It is common for personal files and personal configuration files to reside inside home directory. Do try and see if you obtained your HDMI sound through that.
[03:48] <aliciapg> canthus13: thank you :D
[03:48] <Samual-Ubuntu> leaf-sheep, lies, I once admired my own gdm theme for 20 minutes.... Though, I made it.
[03:48] <NicholasPerkins> man. I wish the ATI drivers hadn't dropped support for older cards.
[03:48] <canthus13> aliciapg: No problem.
[03:48] <leaf-sheep> rj1: Autologin and bypass the GDM? :)
[03:49] <rj1> I have people over at my house all the time, Id like not to give them unrestricted access :D Even if it is just to non-root functionality
[03:49] <FFEMTcJ> deeperror: any other thoughts?
[03:50] <deeperror> FFEMTcJ: might be missing some quotes somewhere
[03:50] <Samual-Ubuntu> Is it even possible to disable the wallpaper switch animation?
[03:50] <doc_> thanks, all--DasEi2, switch10, in paticular...peace, all!...
[03:51] <alazyworkaholic> I downloaded diveintopython docs & gimp tutorials as packages, which installed, but how am I supposed to read them?
[03:51] <syk> this is my grub.cfg, i have several boot options and im not sure which ones to remove from here http://paste.ubuntu.com/339590/
[03:51] <DasEi2> doc_: see what we can find
[03:51] <tgnb_> hi there, i'm trying to change the default resolution gdm starts with in ubuntu 9.10 running in vmware workstation, but i'm unsure what the correct way to do so is. most information online seems either out of date or incorrect
[03:51] <doc_> ya'll already helped greatly!...appreciated--i mostly needed to just talk to someone, i guess--relive my frustration at slow learning curve...lol...
[03:52] <zengeos> evening crowd
[03:52] <FFEMTcJ> deeperror: thanks for your assistance
[03:52] <tgnb_> i had no trouble changing the resolution of grub, framebuffer and the resolution after a users logs in, the only thing i am having trouble with is setting the resolution gdm launches with
[03:52] <deeperror> FFEMTcJ: find it?
[03:52] <doc_> im a #! distro user, if i forgot to mention (im in a couple IRC rooms, and i foget...lol...)...
[03:53] <leaf-sheep> rj1: Do what you gotta do. I'm sure you could use screensaver (with password) and run that in autostart.  Bypass GDM and you'd go straight to Ubuntu, which should send you to screensaver lockout.
[03:53] <webbb82> you know how if you highlight some txt and then click the middle mouse key where ever you want to paste it and that will paste, but for people without the middle button we are suposed to paste by clickin both mouse buttons to sumulate a middle click
[03:53] <FFEMTcJ> deeperror: I added a space between a >= and a 1 and it now exits without an error.. so I guess that was the problem
[03:53] <brian> Brand new to Linux. I need some help with my video.
[03:53] <ynk> hey guys. i have hardy heron. would you guys recommend a clean install of the latest ubuntu release or an upgrade?
[03:54] <webbb82> my mouse has four buttons can i make my 2 or 3 button the middle click simulate
[03:54] <PreZ> Is there a way to, using iptables, alter the destination port without altering the destination IP address (which is unknown at the time of rule writing)?  ie. DNAT without specifying a new dest IP?
[03:54] <deeperror> FFEMTcJ: nice!
[03:54] <wgrant> ynk: You will be able to upgrade directly to Ubuntu 10.04 when it is released in April, but to upgrade to Ubuntu 9.10 (the current latest release), you would have to first upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10, then 9.04 then 9.10.
[03:54] <FFEMTcJ> deeperror: seems too picky :-( oh well.. I guess thats why im learning how to script.. so I know what to do
[03:55] <kevdog> howdy
[03:55] <deeperror> FFEMTcJ: google bash scripting
[03:55] <ynk> wgrant, would you recommend the series of upgrades?
[03:55] <FFEMTcJ> deeperror: its a class... csh is required
[03:55] <mnaines> I have found a solution to a common problem - being able to keep your favorite settings and stuff when you switch computers
[03:55] <wgrant> It's probably easier to either reinstall or wait four months.
[03:55] <leaf-sheep> FFEMTcJ: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[03:55] <wgrant> ynk: ^^
[03:55] <brian> I just installed 9.10. When I bott, it will only work in low graphics mode. Any suggestions?
[03:55] <brian> boot
[03:55] <NicholasPerkins> is there a good ubuntu distro for use as a media centre? just for playing music and video, not mythtv. Need to support older ATI cards.
[03:55] <FFEMTcJ> thanks leaf-sheep
[03:56] <rj1> Nicholas ubuntustudio?
[03:56] <mnaines> wgrant: Guess what I did that would make upgrades easy?
[03:56] <ynk> wgrant, let me rephrase the question--do you think the upgrade from hardy heron to latest is worth it?
[03:56] <wgrant> NicholasPerkins: I use a normal Ubuntu desktop installation and run Moovida on it.
[03:56] <leaf-sheep> NicholasPerkins: Ubuntu Minimal + XBMC?
[03:56] <DasEi2> nice link, leaf-sheep
[03:57] <wgrant> ynk: I cannot say whether it's worth it for your purposes.
[03:57] <airtonix> ynk, never trust a dist-upgrade. always clean install
[03:57] <mnaines> wgrant: I use a persistent USB Live setup
[03:57] <wgrant> ynk: But I would certainly upgrade for a non-server machine.
[03:57] <leaf-sheep> DasEi2: I hope you learn something new. :)
[03:57] <wgrant> airtonix: Why not?
[03:57] <wgrant> airtonix: I've upgraded machines through many Ubuntu releases without problems.
[03:57] <mnaines> wgrant: Or do what I do and just create a persistent Live setup
[03:57] <airtonix> wgrant, lucky you. it'll bite you one day
[03:58] <ynk> wgrant, thanks. you've just convinced me to upgrade. :]
[03:58] <wgrant> airtonix: It's still a lot easier to try to upgrade, and then only reinstall in the tiny fraction of cases in which it fails.
[03:58] <mnaines> wgrant: Creating a persistent Live setup, all you would need is a fresh image of the new version of Ubuntu on a LiveCD and a USB stick to save the changes...
[03:58] <airtonix> wgrant, if you have your home on a separate partition, then its easier to clean install
[03:58] <ynk> airtonix, thanks for the tip. duly noted. that's exactly what i'm going to do. hmm, maybe i'll try OpenSuse on my laptop...
[03:58] <mnaines> Its easier to upgrade my way, wgrant
[03:59] <smackdaddy> what is a good webbased app to let users control their accounts thru a web interface
[03:59] <smackdaddy> im running 9.10 64
[03:59] <blue_> Hello all
[03:59] <smackdaddy> server
[03:59] <wgrant> mnaines: I prefer a real system.
[03:59] <wgrant> airtonix: It is. And?
[03:59] <mnaines> wgrant: This setup works on ANY computer...
[03:59] <wgrant> mnaines: I'm quite aware.
[04:00] <DasEi2> smackdaddy: webmin, ssh x forwarded , vpn .. what shall they do ?
[04:00] <blue_> Im kind of new to Ubuntu iv used linux for awhile for servers but not as a desktop. Anyways has anyone here compiled GLmartix screen saver from source?
[04:00] <sebsebseb> hi
[04:00] <MrBoom> que tal, sebsebseb
[04:00] <sebsebseb> MrBoom: hmm?
[04:00] <MrBoom> i haven't a clue, sebsebseb
[04:00] <wgrant> blue_: Why do you want to?
[04:00] <mnaines> wgrant: This setup solves the problem with keeping your settings and configuration when you change computers or upgrade them
[04:00] <DasEi2> !compile | blue_
[04:00] <blue_> I want to change the color from Green to blue which cant do unless i compile it
[04:01] <wgrant> mnaines: I know. But a live USB flash drive setup does not at all cater to my needs as a developer.
[04:01] <smackdaddy> dasei2, thanks.
[04:01] <blue_> Yeah I know how to compile im not that new just cant seem to compile this source
[04:01] <mnaines> wgrant: You're an Ubuntu developer?
[04:01] <JohninLex> quick question SVN and Apache together or not together and why
[04:01] <wgrant> mnaines: I am.
[04:02] <alazyworkaholic> I downloaded diveintopython docs & some gimp tutorials as packages, which installed, but how am I supposed to read them, or anything else in /usr/share/docs ?
[04:02] <DasEi2> blue_: shall we try together ?
[04:02] <bartel> if i drop a script in /etc/cron.daily do i need to restart crond?
[04:02] <wgrant> bartel: No.
[04:02] <Klett> hi
[04:02] <mnaines> wgrant: Good...Because you could help me with my idea...This setup is beneficial in many ways, so one way you could help is by creating an Ubuntu flavor that's optimized for persistent Live setups like mine
[04:02] <blue_> yes I am game to try it with you
[04:02] <wgrant> alazyworkaholic: Try pointing Firefox at /usr/share/doc/diveintopython
[04:03] <wgrant> mnaines: ... what's wrong iwth normal Ubuntu?
[04:03] <wgrant> We include a persistent live USB drive creator in the default installation.
[04:03] <devD> how to install cromium browser in ubuntu ?
[04:03] <Klett> hi there
[04:03] <MrBoom> hi, Klett
[04:03] <mnaines> wgrant: Too bloated...Most people won't want to buy a 16GB flash drive just to run a setup like mine
[04:03] <wgrant> !chromium | devD
[04:03] <bazhang> !chromium | devD
[04:03] <DasEi2> !pm | blue_
[04:03] <Klett> has someone noticed problems with irc connection after kernel upgrade on ubuntu 9.10
[04:04] <webbb82> i want to change the simulate middle mouse click from presssing both mouse buttons  to pressin the second button  i have a 4 button mouse
[04:04] <wgrant> mnaines: You can't feasily remove more than a couple of hundred megabytes from the default installation.
[04:04] <Klett> hello mrboom
[04:04] <wgrant> mnaines: Anyway, this is offtopic for here.
[04:04] <plitter> i just got the usb flash drive to work, but i need to mount the other harddisks to see where i can install ubuntu, how do i mount the other harddisks?
[04:04] <alazyworkaholic> wgrant: thanks, that worked.
[04:05] <g__> bazhang do you know how to view the update history in kubuntu 9.10 I need to uninstall some of the latest updates as it has wrecked my computer
[04:05] <blue_> ok DasEi2 so I downloaded the source for xscreensaver-5.10 changed the xpm files needed to change the image and tried to compile
[04:05] <JohninLex> I take it that my question was above a few heads tonight lol
[04:05] <DasEi2> Klett: I had some probs today, but can't reduce them to kernel update, lot's of splits today and I'm running a bunch of stuff
[04:05] <DasEi2> blue_: got a link ?
[04:05] <mtimbrogno> what do you know, a public irc for ubuntu
[04:05] <mtimbrogno> awesome1
[04:05] <blue_> http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/download.html
[04:05] <EastDallas> Anyone else having issues printing with Chrome Beta?  'splix error while rendering the request'
[04:05] <wgrant> JohninLex: Any particular reason for using Subversion?
[04:05] <g__> bazhang knetworkmanager no longer lets me click to connect to a network on the gui
[04:06] <JoeSomebody> hello, i am looking for something to show download speed, preferrably that can be minimized to  the panel , and still show speed, is there anything like that for ubuntu?
[04:06] <blue_> DasEi2: Just a regular .configure wont work it comes back with a x11 header error
[04:06] <DasEi2> blue_: I  d/l it, vm will be there in ~5 min, I'll call your nick then
[04:06] <blue_> kk ty
[04:07] <Jeruvy> JoeSomebody: not a true meter, but firestarter does that.
[04:07] <Klett> i have continuous connection refusal with "couldn't lookup your hostname etc"
[04:07] <bllzz> How does ext4 do with large files as compared to ext3?  I remember ext3 could take as long as 15 seconds or so to delete videos from the harddrive
[04:07] <zengeos> Johninlex..wouldn't that question be better directed in an Apache specific chat room?
[04:07] <Klett> now i am back using my other ubuntu 8.04
[04:07] <Klett> maybe i have to fix something in iptables
[04:07] <alankila> bllzz: instantenous
[04:07] <Klett> ?
[04:08] <g__> does anyone know how to view the update history in kubuntu 9.10 I need to uninstall some of the latest updates as it has wrecked my computer?
[04:08] <DasEi2> bllzz: slightly faster, quite same, rm o'course is faster then move to trash
[04:08] <JohninLex> you are right zengeos, but hey I sometimes I get great help here as well
[04:08] <kamola> sry dunno g__
[04:08] <bllzz> DasEi2:  right. i'm considering using it for an HTPC
[04:08] <g__> I can't select any network anymore on the knetworkmanager applet
[04:08] <bllzz> alankila:  that's a definite improvement =)
[04:08] <wgrant> DasEi2: Um, what? Moving to Trash should be faster than rm itself.
[04:08] <zengeos> g_ how has it wrecked your computer/
[04:08] <g__> I can't select any network anymore on the knetworkmanager applet
[04:08] <DasEi2> bllzz: ext4 is fine for that
[04:09] <JohninLex> #ubuntu is the #1 stoping point zengeos
[04:09] <bllzz> huh okay.  i'll give it a whirl.  I've used xfs up until now, but why not... ext4 seems to have mmore or less stabilized
[04:09] <usser> JohninLex, whats the problem?
[04:09] <Quan-Time> anyone know of a fix for laptop touchpads NOT being identified as synaptic devices ?
[04:09] <DasEi2> g__: /var/log/apt/history.log
[04:09] <g__> zengeos its weird it worked right before the update flawlessly but now I can't click to join any network
[04:09] <zengeos> hmm. g_ perhaps you installed some other networking softwre that is conflicting?  WiCd sometimes could do that perhaps?
[04:10] <EastDallas> g_:WiCD
[04:10] <g__> zengeos I've done nothing, mliterally done nothing
[04:10] <EastDallas> install it
[04:10] <zengeos> thanks East
[04:10] <DasEi2> bllzz: very stable, as I remember xfs is in advantages for lots of very small files
[04:10] <EastDallas> I had a ton of probs with knetworkmanager and just switched to wicd, worked like a charm
[04:11] <g__> DasEi2 hmm that doesn't show anything with Kate
[04:11] <bllzz> DasEi2:  other way around.  it has problems with small files
[04:11] <alankila> DasEi2: err, no. XFS is in fact one of the slowest, especially when deleting. I regret ever going with xfs, personally.
[04:11] <na1lb0mb> I could never get knetworkmanager to work.
[04:11] <rj1> ....I feel lame, I just use ext4 XD
[04:11] <JoeSomebody> Jeruvy, thanks, reading up on that , any other ways, anyone ?
[04:11] <alankila> I still have some old servers that contain xfs filesystem but it's too much work for little benefit to ever change the fs now
[04:11] <g__> does anyone else reccoment wicd?
[04:12] <bllzz> DasEi2:  XFS was on the god-teir with large files on raid0, but it was on par with satan himself with my digital photos
[04:12] <zengeos> Speaking of networking erhaps someonbe has thoughts on my little issue
[04:12] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[04:12] <zengeos> <--typo's very well thanks
[04:12] <bllzz> alankila:  you had issues deleting with xfs?  was this for small files?
[04:12] <Tetracomm> Google Chrome for Linux has finally been released.
[04:12] <DasEi2> blizz: it's some ago I read about it, I ran with ext2,3,4 .. I'm one of the ones who pulls the plug when sleeping from pc-tv, never had probs with ext4
[04:12] <Tetracomm> It is on google.com/chrome
[04:12] <isolat3dsh33p> Tetracomm: Where can I download it?
[04:12] <bllzz> Tetracomm:  great, no we can get our privacy raped
[04:13] <bllzz> *now
[04:13] <mrd112233> why on earth would you want to use chrome
[04:13] <bllzz> =)
[04:13] <alankila> bllzz: the size doesn't matter so much as the number.  I don't know more about it, but it's like several times slower than any of the others.
[04:13] <mrd112233> its big brother spying on you!
[04:13] <Tetracomm> I'm just trying it.
[04:13] <bllzz> mrd112233:  lol.  well to be fair firefox *is* bloated
[04:13] <mrd112233> yes but if u value ur privacy, u wouldnt go near chrome
[04:13] <bllzz> alankila:  right, but I always thought hte metadata had bog had to do with the small-filesize issue
[04:13] <usser> bllzz, mrd112233 plenty of browsers besides firefox
[04:14] <bllzz> usser:  i was being cheeky
[04:14] <mrd112233> i heard there's a alternative called SRWare Iron
[04:14] <alankila> bllzz: well, the metadata load is probably close to fixed per file, probably growing slowly with file size. The proportion of data vs meta updates is the issue. That is why we whine about small file performance, because it's the metadata that dominates this kind of activity.
[04:15] <werkor> does transmission work with all torrents ?
[04:15] <DasEi2> blue_: they have got debs, did you try them ?
[04:15] <DasEi2> blue_: 32 or 64 bit ?
[04:15] <blue_> DasEi2:the debs you can't edit the xpm file to change the color. Unless there is a way to extract the deb to get to the files in it?
[04:15] <blue_> 32 bit
[04:16] <alankila> anyway, xfs is great compared to the utter disaster that is jfs. These days I wish all my systems just ran ext4, but perhaps a time is approaching when btrfs needs to be taken out for a test.
[04:16] <bllzz> alankila:  ah i see. makes sense.  I didn't know that
[04:16] <DasEi2> blue_: you""could do so, but without nowing that app, config is usually changed after install I 'd guess
[04:16] <pharvey> alankila: what's wrong with JFS?
[04:17] <alankila> fragmentation over time.
[04:17] <blue_> DasEi2: This is the tut I used to get where I am.
[04:17] <alankila> I had it as system drive for a few years and boy did it get slow, tracking debian and then ubuntu
[04:17] <pharvey> I've been using it since 2003.
[04:17] <blue_> DasEi2: Gues I should have pasted the link http://santhoshtr.livejournal.com/7078.html
[04:17] <alankila> (yes, I used to mix'n'match repositories.)
[04:18] <pharvey> Perhaps my usage patterns haven't caused the same fragmentation that you've had.
[04:18] <alankila> pharvey: yeah, it took some real abuse to get to that point, I'm sure... it was constantly something like 70 % full and a 10 GB of data went in and out every week, or at least every month if not every week
[04:19] <alankila> unstable can have a lot of updates.
[04:20] <Alius> hello
[04:20] <Alius> does anyone know how to program in python
[04:20] <Alius> ?
[04:20] <DasEi2> blue_: deb is installing
[04:20] <Alius> anyone good at python?
[04:20] <syk> SssS ss
[04:20] <mrd112233> plenty of tutorials on the net...
[04:21] <usser> Alius, look into dive into python great book
[04:21] <alankila> but the thing is, that jfs-based system was the only one I ever noticed to slow down dramatically with time. All the others have proven to be fragmentation resistant, or at least have resisted fragmentation well enough that I never noticed any problems.
[04:21] <DasEi2> blue_: wants another version of libxml2
[04:21] <Alius> I know how to program
[04:21] <arghh2d2> Alius: i bet somebody in #python knows a guy who knows a guy who might know some python
[04:21] <Alius> i just need to learn methods and constructors
[04:22] <zengeos> there are also several rooms dedicated to Python
[04:22] <Quan-Time> if i have a laptop with a touchpad which is NOT being identified as a synaptics device (the default driver set) what are my options ? ive tried to tell it, that it would take over, but its still showing up, and being use as a normal mouse.. ideas / pointers please ?
[04:22] <usser> Alius, get the book, it explains everything about python in detail
[04:22] <zengeos> visit #python
[04:22] <Jeruvy> Alius: try ^^
[04:22] <mrd112233> official docu is very good too
[04:22] <hitek88> well I installed grub2 on 9.10, and upgrade-from-grub-legacy, but ussing the grub command, says grub is not installed, although grub2 is installed
[04:23] <cheeko> thers i no channel #python
[04:23] <zengeos> Does grub2 *see* Solaris?
[04:23] <zengeos> grumble...Open solaris doesn't see Linux...Linux doesn't see Solaris
[04:23] <mrd112233> sure there is
[04:24] <Quan-Time> hitek88: i get the same issue atm
[04:24] <cheeko> nope
[04:24] <hitek88> Quan-Time, hmm
[04:24] <Quan-Time> hitek88: it works.. just throws weird errors.. but you can boot fine.. ive been doin it for like 3 days
[04:24] <hitek88> Quan-Time, lol what about grub. How do you run grub in the command line?
[04:25] <ctmjr> cheeko: there is a #python channel
[04:25] <bllzz> how do I do boot profiling in grub2?
[04:25] <Quan-Time> umm, how you mean "run grub"
[04:25] <Quan-Time> its a boot loader.
[04:25] <Quan-Time> oh, you wanna reconfig grub ?
[04:25] <cheeko> but no members in ti
[04:26] <jesus> hi
[04:26] <MrBoom> hey, jesus
[04:26] <jesus> :D
[04:26] <hitek88> Quan-Time, yeah, you can run grub in the command line
[04:26] <arghh2d2> finally, i found jesus!
[04:26] <greezmunkey> omg
[04:26] <Jesus-Virus> uheuhe
[04:26] <Jesus-Virus> :D
[04:26] <Jesus-Virus> ow my god
[04:26] <Jesus-Virus> :D
[04:26] <mrd112233> halleluwah
[04:27] <Jesus-Virus> my name is jesus, but here no is possible
[04:27] <Jesus-Virus> :D
[04:27] <g__> anyone know how to install wicd but also uninstall knetworkmanager??
[04:27] <Jesus-Virus> my english is very bad :( so sorry!
[04:27] <pharvey> alankila: well, JFS on Linux is supported in many commercial environments. I never did any tuning on my home system, perhaps the VMs I've used in my work were configured differently somehow to avoid this problem.
[04:27] <dg1> hello, i had an error in wine and had to restart, and now it says it cant mount fstab and my desktop is all white in 9.10
[04:27] <greezmunkey> g_, wicd will uninstall NM
[04:27] <arghh2d2> Jesus-Virus: screw english, speak American!
[04:27] <bazhang> !ot
[04:28] <DasEi2> dg1: can you boot into safemode ?
[04:28] <bllzz> !women
[04:28] <alankila> pharvey: it may be that an update has been pushed to jfs which fixes the problem. This happened about 3 years ago, I think.
[04:28] <dg1> it told me escape for recovery shell
[04:28] <bllzz> oh damn!
[04:28] <bllzz> it failed
[04:28] <bllzz> nvm
[04:28] <dg1> and its all white
[04:28] <bllzz> no more bot-abuse for me
[04:28] <Jesus-Virus> the sound in ubuntu 9.10, is off because actualizacion of 9.04 for 9.10,cause a BUG, because the pulse audio is sound of system e not more the Alsamixer
[04:29] <Jesus-Virus> Help!?
[04:29] <dg1> !help
[04:29] <gdiz> is it possible to control the sound volume from shell
[04:29] <mrd112233> jesus asking for help
[04:29] <Alius> thanks jeuvy
[04:29] <Alius> but what is the books title?
[04:29] <bllzz> Jesus-virus:  there's an ubuntuforums topic about that.  the tutorial works rather well
[04:29] <g__> greezemunkey whenever I try to install it from the add/remove it says it cant cause it conflicts with other software
[04:29] <bllzz> i don't remember where it is but it pops up in google
[04:29] <dg1> can i ask a question on how to fix this?
[04:29] <bllzz> !ask|dg1
[04:29] <hitek88> whats the command to run grub2?
[04:30] <ardchoille> !grub
[04:30] <dg1> safe mode ok brb
[04:30] <pharvey> I only used JFS on low spec systems that didn't need great I/O bandwidth. The reduced CPU overhead in large sets of FS operations was worth extra effort over ext3. XFS seemed marginally faster in that respect.
[04:30] <ardchoille> !grub2
[04:30] <bllzz> hitek88:  you don't "run" ubuntu.  ubuntu boots your system.  what exactly are you trying to do?
[04:30] <ctmjr> gdiz: yes amixer
[04:30] <bllzz> *sorry... i mean't grub2
[04:30] <bllzz> lol
[04:30] <gdiz> thanks ctmjr
[04:30] <hitek88> bllzz, I am trying to run GRUB, not Ubuntu
[04:31] <bllzz> hitek88:  yeah sorry, typo
[04:31] <alankila> pharvey: yes. However, it may be that the low cpu comes at less optimal block layout strategies, or something. No free lunch & all that.
[04:31] <bllzz> hitek88:  i mean't to say you don't "run" grub.  grub boots ubuntu
[04:31] <greezmunkey> g__, well then, how do I resolve the conflicts is the real question. What error do you get, please use paste.ubuntu.com.
[04:31] <Jeruvy> Aluis: sorry.  I'm not sure what you're referring to.
[04:31] <bllzz> hitek88:  what exactly are you trying to do with grub?
[04:31] <hitek88> bllzz, you can run grub inside a terminal
[04:31] <spasticteapot> What's a good way to transcode a *big* pile of FLAC files to MP3s?
[04:31] <greezmunkey> g__, while you are getting that together, I'm going outside for a smoke...
[04:32] <ctmjr> gdiz: your welcome here is a sample how to use it amixer set 'PCM',0 5%+
[04:32] <DasEi2> dg1: try to fix it from there
[04:32] <pharvey> I don't think JFS was "cheating" - unlike ext3, it was better able to background its operations, whereas ext3 would block and prevent too many processes from doing things all at once.
[04:32] <bllzz> hitek88:  to what purpose?  You can reconfigure grub or reinstall it, but afaik (and I've been wrong before) you can't run it in the terminal.  what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[04:32] <hitek88> bllzz, supposedly grub2 comes installed on 9.10. I checked my version, it said 0.9 so I installed grub2, ran   update-grub, and now "grub" in terminal does nothing
[04:33] <squidbilly> grub2 now. in term
[04:33] <g__> greezmunkey http://paste.ubuntu.com/339701/
[04:33] <syk> this is my grub.cfg, i have several boot options and im not sure which ones to remove from here http://paste.ubuntu.com/339590/
[04:33] <DasEi2> blue_:... bugs the whole sys, first throwed an error about lib...  , then -f install pulled ~20MB additional packets, now 420MB are obsolete, including build essential .. eerm, xscreensaver itself is in the repos, you know that ?
[04:33] <hitek88> bllzz, you can't actually run grub inside a terminal no, but you run a grub configuration terminal too to make changes to grub
[04:33] <alankila> pharvey: well, the sequentalism that I assume you refer to in ext3 would be irrelevant for a low-spec system, which we assume to imply 1 cpu. So it's not really an argument. Saving CPU time may be, if it is that precious.
[04:34] <bllzz> hitek88: ah okay, that makes sense.  I think you want to look at the config file
[04:34] <alankila> oh well, bedtime, etc. Laters.
[04:34] <blue_> DasEi2: Yea I was just thinking that Im not even using xscreensaver im using gnome-screensaver i think the only thing i need to know how to compile from source is xscreensaver-gl now that i think about it
[04:35] <blue_> DasEi2: not sure how to do it iv just been trying to do what was in that tut i sent you
[04:35] <pharvey> I never did deep investigation into the problem. This is on single-CPU systems where I had "lots" (given the hardware, sub-1.0GHz) of processes needing to do ioctls and create/move/delete operations on lots of files.
[04:35] <DasEi2> blue_:I'll try again from source when vm is back from dumpster :-D
[04:36] <bllzz> hitek88: actually disregard that...
[04:36] <bragzz> hello all
[04:36] <hitek88> bllzz, might be a bit more then looking at a config file
[04:36] <bllzz> hitek88:  i just checked the wiki and it seems as though the config file isn't meant t be edited
[04:36] <pharvey> but anyway, I no longer have to worry about such systems...
[04:36] <aquafina> hi. is a release of thunderbird 3.0 available in ubuntu?
[04:36] <bllzz> bllzz:  well usually making changes to GRUB settings involves editing the config file, but it seems as though a lot has changed in GRUB2
[04:37] <Kamokow> Where are the bitlbee account files stored on ubuntu? I messed up my password :-/
[04:37] <blue_> DasEi2: Will your VM work with OpenGL ect?  If your already on Ubuntu 9.10 then you have the screen saver by default I just want to know how to change it to blue the easier the better maybe you know a different way
[04:37] <bllzz> bllzz:  have you looked at this yet:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 ?
[04:37] <aquafina> i edited the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file, blizz .. just to remove some old entries and change the default bootloader from linux to ubuntu
[04:37] <aquafina> its pretty much obvious what to do when you open the file. nicely commented and such
[04:37] <netyire> hi channel! I'm trying to mount an iso on a samba share I can see in nautilus, but terminal won't take smb://
[04:38] <hitek88> bllzz, hmm, nv. Maybe there is no more grub terminal mode. Unless, can you type   "grub -v" in the terminal for me and tell what version it says
[04:38] <hitek88> bllzz, are you on 9.10?
[04:38] <bllzz> hitek88:  not currently.  i'm actually in windows right now
[04:38] <bllzz> hitek88:  but the config file is here:  /etc/default/grub
[04:38] <hitek88> bllzz,  k nm
[04:38] <DasEi2> Blue_: gl works, what exactly you want to change to blue ?
[04:39] <bllzz> hitek88:  it would help to know exactly what you're trying to do with grub though
[04:39] <hitek88> bllzz, for the old grub
[04:39] <dg1> I have a filesystem can be mounted error
[04:39] <dg1> will not start in recovery mode
[04:39] <bllzz> hitek88:  what about the old grub?
[04:39]  * pharvey wonders why he still has xset and xinput if they aren't actually able to do anything useful
[04:39] <blue_> DasEi2: I got D/c if you said anything i missed it.
[04:39] <bllzz> dg1:  what filesystem?
[04:39] <DasEi2> Blue_: gl works, what exactly you want to change to blue ?
[04:39] <hitek88> bllzz, config file is actually located here   /boot/grub/
[04:39] <MrBoom> Hmm.  No matches for that, hitek88.
[04:39] <dg1> fstab
[04:40] <hitek88> MrBoom, sorry?
[04:40] <MrBoom> i don't know, hitek88
[04:40] <blue_> the GLMatrix screen saver color from Green to Blue
[04:40] <dg1> my whole desktop is white
[04:40] <DasEi2> me
[04:40] <hitek88> MrBoom, don't know what?
[04:40] <MrBoom> hitek88: bugger all, i dunno
[04:40] <dg1> i can still open applications with the task bar i just cant see it
[04:40] <bllzz> hitek88:  hmm, you should look at that link I posted.  it seems to insist that /etc/default/grub is the main one now... but i haven't looked at ti closely
[04:40] <aquafina> the old grub boot menu was /boot/grub/menu.lst the new one one is /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[04:40] <bragzz> can some1 help me properly install enemy territories wolfanstien its a .run file, using ubuntu 9.10 i have tried terminal but it closes
[04:40] <dg1> any way to do a scan or a restore
[04:41] <bllzz> hitek88:  full disclosure, i haven't used grub2 very much
[04:41] <bllzz> well except for the fact that it boots my machine
[04:41] <netyire> yay! google fetched an answer! everything is now okay channel!
[04:41] <DasEi2> bragzz: sure
[04:41] <aquafina> anyone know howto install the new thunderbird 3 from a .deb in ubuntu?
[04:41] <netyire> if you're reading the logged version of this online, the answer is: smbclient or smbmount
[04:41] <DasEi2> bragzz: make a dir : sudo mkdir wf
[04:42] <hitek88> aquafina, yes that is correct
[04:42] <DasEi2> bragzz: chown -R bragzz /wf
[04:42] <DasEi2> bragzz: braggz your username on that pc o'course
[04:43] <hitek88> bllzz, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275