[00:00] <mooshimuushi> Dice-Man: Ahaha.
[00:00] <Dmitriy> i always fully download a file
[00:00] <Dmitriy> works fine with ubuntu
[00:00] <Dmitriy> full file size
[00:00] <mooshimuushi> Dice-Man: There are other style/types of installing.
[00:00] <_DGM_> mooshimuushi: thats not so weird.. synaptic is slow as hell.. i use aptitude all the time or just apt-get
[00:00] <Dmitriy> windows acts up
[00:00] <falling-feather> hey how do i run linuxdc++ in rooihub
[00:00] <cellardoor-jorna> what are you trying to open the .mkv with
[00:00] <cellardoor-jorna> Dmitriy: ^^
[00:00] <Dmitriy> ubuntu - mplayer
[00:01] <Dmitriy> windows -vlc
[00:01] <zo7o> ENTRE AL UBUNTU ES Y NO HAY NADIE CON QUIEN CHARLAR
[00:01] <mooshimuushi> _DGM_: Synaptics is slow? True. I have had some times where it is slow.
[00:01] <cellardoor-jorna> Dmitriy: odd, would it be any trouble to re-download and just try again?
[00:01] <rww> zo7o: type /join #ubuntu-es
[00:01] <_DGM_> mooshimuushi: i see that as a good reason not to use it :)
[00:02] <Dmitriy> possibly problematic
[00:02] <kazagistar> I started using UNetBootIn to copy a live cd to a SD card in windows, and it has been running for an hour and is not done... is this normal?
[00:02] <mooshimuushi> _DGM_: But I don't really understand the apt-get concept.
[00:02] <Dmitriy> is it permissions that interfere?
[00:02] <_DGM_> mooshimuushi: whats not to understand about it?
[00:02] <zo7o> GRACIAS AHORA SI
[00:02] <rww> zo7o: This channel is English-only and not-all-caps-only.
[00:02] <cellardoor> Dmitriy: possibly, are you on linux now?
[00:02] <mooshimuushi> _DGM_: Yeah, but it is easy, Synaptics.
[00:02] <Dmitriy> yes
[00:02] <mooshimuushi> _DGM_: Everything really.
[00:03] <ethana2> I'm trying to share a wifi network between ubuntu machines over a crossover cable; I did what I was supposed to do and it failed
[00:03] <_DGM_> mooshimuushi: say your'e trying to install vim.. then you just do sudo apt-get install vim .. whats not to understand
[00:03] <Braber01> um I just switched Keyboards to my g15, and each time I try to use the programmer dvorak or the altGrtn International I can't input anything
[00:03] <ethana2> is ICS hosed in lucid?
[00:03] <cellardoor> Dmitriy: right click the file, and click the properties button, then have a look at 'Permissions' should not do this for everything but set each of the 3 boxes to 'Read and Write' if it lets you
[00:03] <Dmitriy> ok will try
[00:03] <mooshimuushi> _DGM_: But how do you know the name of the file you want to install. It could be different.
[00:03] <_DGM_> mooshimuushi: and you can even use tab to search.. so if you type apt-get install vi <TAB><TAB> it will show you all posibilities
[00:03] <mooshimuushi> _DGM_: NOW THAT IS USEFUL!
[00:04] <unkmar> how can a such horrible failure to upgrade in an LTS release persist for 6 months after the release?
[00:04] <gnubu> I need to install 224M of updates but dialup is too slow here. Can I "fetch" these files somewhere else onto a usb stick and bring them back to my PC?
[00:04] <_DGM_> mooshimuushi: and then there is good ol' aptitude.. where you can just search by pressing /
[00:04] <cellardoor> mooshimuushi: also works for listing and finding files :)
[00:04] <slooksterpsv> anyone use remastersys?
[00:04] <Braber01> I can't use any of my alterntive layouts now that I switched keyboards HELP!!!
[00:04] <cellardoor> gnubu: yes you can, its trickier, but yes
[00:04] <mooshimuushi> _DGM_: Wow, thanks :D
[00:05] <unkmar> I can't breathe now that my face is underwater.
[00:05] <gnubu> cellardoor: how do I do it?
[00:05] <mooshimuushi> cellardoor: Yep! :D
[00:05] <bazhang> unkmar, if you have an issue, then specify. complaining wont get it
[00:05] <mooshimuushi> Wow, now I understand apt-get...
[00:05] <Dmitriy> not the issue apparently
[00:05] <mooshimuushi> :D
[00:05] <cellardoor> !google | gnubu
[00:05] <Dmitriy> windows is just horrible
[00:05] <Dmitriy> :)
[00:06] <cellardoor> gnubu: sorry wrong thing ;)
[00:06] <cellardoor> gnubu: just have a google there are loads of guides
[00:06] <bazhang> cellardoor, please dont ask others to google it
[00:06] <slooksterpsv> Anyone need help again?
[00:06] <tank8465> im very well aware that this is unrelated, but does anyone here know anything about python, need halp with the CS hw.
[00:06] <cellardoor> Dmitriy: yeah it is, but has the permissions changing helped?
[00:07] <Dmitriy> nope
[00:07] <mooshimuushi> Yeah, me again, but it can be a stupid question ^^"
[00:07] <Esat> How to use Java Decomiler?
[00:07] <bazhang> tank8465, you might try a python channel
[00:07] <mooshimuushi> How do you change just only 1 files icon?
[00:07] <dimago> new to ubuntu... how can use the clock as in windows screensaver in ubuntu ?
[00:07] <cellardoor> mooshimuushi: rightc
[00:07] <cellardoor> mooshimuushi: sorry bad keyboard
[00:07] <Braber01> um I JUST SWITCHED TO A G15 keyboard and now I can't use the programmer dovark or the Alt Grtn Internatonal Keyboard Layouts
[00:08] <cellardoor> mooshimuushi: right click, then click the icon image on the left :)
[00:08] <mooshimuushi> E.g. Stepmania. The "run" file icon is blank. I want to change the icon so that it has the original icon.
[00:08] <slooksterpsv> mooshimuushi - right click on the file, choose properties, the click on the icon in the general page
[00:08] <mooshimuushi> Give me a second :D
[00:08] <Esat> How to use Java Decomiler to edit .class files?
[00:09] <cellardoor> dimago: you cant really :/ though i expect its possible to run a clock screensaver that is similar, check in settings>Preferences>Screensaver
[00:09] <Braber01> Esat you don't edit the .class file you edit the .java file
[00:09] <unkmar> I specified it didn't help either.
[00:09] <mooshimuushi> Gotcha. Thank you cellardoor and slooksterpsv
[00:09] <Esat> Braber01,  what can i do to Edit .class files?
[00:09] <unkmar> I attempted an upgrade and got a kernel panic.
[00:09] <mooshimuushi> :D
[00:09] <cellardoor> mooshimuushi: welcome :)
[00:09] <bazhang> unkmar, upgrade to what
[00:10] <unkmar> 10.04 from 8.04
[00:10] <unkmar> LTS to LTS
[00:10] <fx> hi guys, i have a raid5, running in degraded, and for some reason its not being assembled at boot now
[00:10]  * ethana2 tries non-crossover cable
[00:10] <Oer> Braber01, there is a G15 package in synaptic ?
[00:10] <bazhang> unkmar, then pastebin the appropriate errors encountered
[00:10] <Dmitriy> do you guys know if they fixed the bootloader from 9.10 to 10.04? i had problems dual-booting before
[00:10] <tenshinoneko_> Hello ^^ Anyone knows how to enable Ad-Hoc as Wireless B only?
[00:10] <unkmar> sure, I'll type those puppies right up.
[00:11] <annkas> banished, ddrescue seems to work - thanks a lot
[00:11] <mooshimuushi> This IRC chat server is very useful :D
[00:11] <dimago> cellardoor: there is one but it isn't downloaded. How do you download, it is gray out
[00:11] <cellardoor> Dmitriy: a newer version is now in use, if you have all updates installed then Grub 2 should be on there
[00:11] <Dmitriy> i'm on 9.10 still
[00:11] <cellardoor> dimago: not sure, give me a moment
[00:11] <Dmitriy> kinda worried about upgrading to avoid previous issue
[00:12] <cellardoor> Dmitriy: yeh I know, upgrades arent the best, something that is always being worked on, I dont think Grub 2 got backported, though it may only be a matter of time
[00:12] <mooshimuushi> I bow down to the person who made this server, and the ubuntu masters within this server :D
[00:12] <fx> specifically, how should my mdadm.conf look like
[00:12] <zuke> anyone for some help getting a correct Mandriva entry to grub2?
[00:12] <Dmitriy> cellardoor-you think i should wait till 10.10?
[00:12] <ppq> mooshimuushi, actually this irc network isn't run bei ubuntu people
[00:12] <Esat>  What can i do to edit .class files?
[00:13] <ppq> mooshimuushi, it's freenode - see freenode.net :)
[00:13] <moshe> What do you do with grub rescue it dosent have any commands
[00:13] <ppq> mooshimuushi, by, not bei
[00:13] <cellardoor> Dmitriy: the upgrade leap would be even greater so no.. try the upgrade now, and if there are any kinks, they should be little ones that are easy to iron out
[00:13] <cellardoor> Dmitriy: any trouble, just come here again :_
[00:13] <cellardoor> :)*
[00:13] <mightygame> I need help
[00:13] <mooshimuushi> ppq: Ahh, I see now. My mistake.
[00:13] <mightygame> I wanna make the indicator applet in panel transparent
[00:13] <moshe> Kאני
[00:14] <mightygame> so it matches with my panel
[00:14] <mightygame> HOW???
[00:14] <mooshimuushi> ppq: Thank you ppq for correcting me, and also. I know :D by*
[00:14] <Braber01> just installed all of the g15 packages
[00:14] <cellardoor> dimago: i can see what you mean by greyed out, bear with me a few moer secs
[00:14] <Braber01> thanks bai
[00:15] <dimago> cellardoor: i am here
[00:15] <mightygame> HELP ME
[00:15] <mightygame> PLEASE!
[00:15] <lahwran> hey all, I'm in the process of reinstalling a system, I told gparted to resize a heavily-used ext3 partition from about 18Gb to about 9GB, and it had about 8.9GB used - it's taken 5 hours so far - this is to be expected, correct?
[00:15] <lahwran> !ask | mightygame
[00:16] <mightygame> HOW DO I MAKE INDICATOR APPLET IN PANEL TRANSPARENT?
[00:16] <mightygame> Using MacBuntu-10.04 theme
[00:16] <lahwran> caps | mightygame
[00:16] <mkanyicy> lahwran, do not dare to cancel the operation!
[00:16] <lahwran> !caps | mightygame
[00:16] <lahwran> mkanyicy: I figured as much
[00:16] <mightygame> okay
[00:16] <mightygame> sorry
[00:16] <rww> lahwran: yes, it's expected
[00:16] <mightygame> lahwran: read my question?
[00:16] <Dmitriy> you mean that indicator in the top right?
[00:17] <mightygame> yes
[00:17] <lahwran> lahwran: I know what it's doing, I just didn't expect it to take /this long/ to rearrange the drive
[00:17] <rww> lahwran: presumably, it decided to move the partition too. that happens annoyingly often.
[00:17] <Dmitriy> i got rid of it
[00:17] <mkanyicy> lahwran, I was impatient sometime ago and cancelled the operation and lost most of my data
[00:17] <cellardoor> dimago: I am really sorry but I cant see how to do it :/ wait a few moments to see if anyone else gets back to you, then ask again
[00:17] <lahwran> wtf I completed my own nick
[00:17] <lahwran> mkanyicy: well, I know better than /that/, I just didn't expect it to take /quite/ this long
[00:17] <mkanyicy> lahwran, leave it to run overnight, go somewhere and forget about it and let it do to its own thing
[00:17] <zuke> anyone to offer some help with adding a mandriva menu entry to grub?
[00:17] <mightygame> waiting for answer.
[00:18] <_DGM_> hmm your irc seems to be suffering from schizofrenia
[00:18] <lahwran> mightygame: try shutting up to wait, instead of babbling
[00:18] <Esat>  What can i do to edit .class files?
[00:18] <tenshinoneko_> Hello ^^ Anyone knows how to enable Ad-Hoc as Wireless B only?
[00:18] <ppq> lahwran, probably this wont work because after resizing only about 100mb will be free. by default, ext3 partitions have 5% reserved space in case the fs is full ans nothing can be deleted. i don't know what happens now when you resize it to such a small size that there are no 5% free space left
[00:18] <cellardoor> mightygame: agreed, these people are volunteers, not a call centre
[00:18] <lahwran> ppq: gparted will have counted that as used space, unless it's total crap
[00:19] <trism> mightygame: would help but don't understand your problem, when I set my panel to transparent, so is the indicator applet
[00:19] <lahwran> ppq: and so it wouldn't have let me resize it below the limit that would do that
[00:19] <dimago> cellardoor: thanks for trying
[00:19] <mightygame> trism: I'm using MacBuntu
[00:19] <cellardoor> dimago: anything else thats a problem go ahead and ask, you may have more luck :)
[00:19] <mightygame> only my panel turns transparent
[00:19] <AfterHoursCanadi> alright, hi people my dvd drive stopped working anyone got any hints?
[00:19] <mightygame> nothing else.
[00:20] <ppq> lahwran, i hope so
[00:20] <lahwran> ppq: also, I gave it about 200MB of buffer space
[00:20] <lahwran> just out of habit
[00:20] <dugger5688> AfterHoursCanadi: Try another drive, or boot into a liveCD environment. If it's not working out of the BIOS go buy a new one.
[00:21] <Dmitriy> check if there is a plasticky odor
[00:21] <AfterHoursCanadi> well it shows itself in bios
[00:21] <mightygame> okay
[00:21] <mightygame> leave it
[00:21] <mightygame> thanks guys
[00:21] <dimago> cellardoor: although I am new to the os I'm feeling my way around, it's a cool sys
[00:21] <dugger5688> Will it boot a liveCD?
[00:21] <unkmar> http://pastebin.com/vLmGPxk6
[00:21] <cellardoor> dimago: I know :) I've watched it grow up :)
[00:22] <AfterHoursCanadi> no idea about booting in livecd
[00:22] <cellardoor> dugger5688: when you say broken, do you mean the drive tray wont pop out, or ubuntu is not detecting what you put in
[00:22] <Datapups> what was everyones 1st nix os?
[00:22] <infoverload> Hey all
[00:22] <bazhang> Datapups, dont poll here
[00:22] <dugger5688> cellardoor: it's AfterHoursCanadi /w the drive problem.
[00:22] <cellardoor> Datapups: Breezy Badger
[00:22] <tim> Datapups, Slackware Linux 1996
[00:23] <rww> dan512: #ubuntu-offtopic OS
[00:23] <infoverload> I just downloaded AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition for Linux version 8.5 (.deb)
[00:23] <rww> Datapups: **
[00:23] <infoverload> I double clicked the file
[00:23] <Datapups> nice @slack
[00:23] <infoverload> says it was finished installing
[00:23] <infoverload> but now I don't see the program anywhere?
[00:23] <infoverload> help?
[00:23] <bazhang> !ot | Datapups
[00:23] <Datapups> ok sorry
[00:23] <cellardoor> dugger5688: when that sounds specific to that, probably a fault with that rather tahn ubuntu, so veerything else works?
[00:23] <_DGM_> infoverload: why not use clam? its part of ubuntu
[00:23] <Dmitriy> why do you need avg for ubuntu?
[00:23] <_DGM_> if you even really do need a virusscanner at all
[00:23] <infoverload> Dmitriy: it's safer isn't it?
[00:23] <cellardoor> dugger5688: well*
[00:23] <c_ozzie> so, i accidentally did safe removal on a flash drive and now need to remount it, without physical access or rebooting. is it possible?
[00:23] <Dmitriy> its not necesary
[00:23] <AfterHoursCanadi> so were saying its more then likely my dvd drive thats faulty?
[00:23] <_DGM_> infoverload: if you like scanning for windows virusses on linux.. sure
[00:24] <mooshimuushi> yo :D
[00:24] <Esat> how can i edit .class files?
[00:24] <dugger5688> AfterHoursCanadi: My first step would be to just grab an Ubuntu liveCD (or any really) and see if the drive works at all.
[00:24] <tenshinoneko_> Hello ^^ Anyone knows how to enable Ad-Hoc as Wireless B only?
[00:24] <unkmar> c_ozzie: safe removal?  sounds like winders.
[00:24] <infoverload> _DGM_: I guess so, but I was just reading this: http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/does-ubuntu-linux-really-need-antivirus-software/
[00:24] <cellardoor> c_ozzie: sure, ever used the 'mount' command in a terminal?
[00:24] <Dmitriy> i use ubuntu for well over 4 years and still no viruses and no avg
[00:24] <dugger5688> More than likely it's a dead drive, DVD drives are cheap (in price and quality often)
[00:24] <unkmar> c_ozzie: if using linux.  sure, you can remount.
[00:24] <AfterHoursCanadi> ill try that, I don't know where it is but I tried running my windows CD's and it doesn't run off of that
[00:24] <cellardoor> unkmar: he means eject
[00:24] <moshe> Jordan_U:  error no such device b2..... Grub rescue >
[00:24] <c_ozzie> unkmar: no, ubuntu 10.04
[00:24] <infoverload> _DGM_: Clam, eh?
[00:24] <AfterHoursCanadi> even in boot
[00:24] <c_ozzie> it was /dev/sdk, but that device no longer exists
[00:24] <infoverload> Dimitriy: http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/does-ubuntu-linux-really-need-antivirus-software/
[00:24] <_DGM_> infoverload: yes i use it on my servers
[00:25] <mooshimuushi> :D
[00:25] <cellardoor> c_ozzie: mount /dev/sdk /mnt
[00:25] <dugger5688> AfterHoursCanadi, it's dead. Just buy a new one, you can find them for less than $20
[00:25] <AfterHoursCanadi> and I tried a fresh harddrive and put the dvd drive as first boot and master yet still it just shows " unable to find startup disk"
[00:25] <cellardoor> c_ozzie: maybe with 'sudo' preceeding that text when you enter the command
[00:25] <tim> clamav is great if you don't require on-access scanning
[00:25] <AfterHoursCanadi> yea I know I just wanted to make sure first.  thanks
[00:26] <AfterHoursCanadi> so its not just me who thinks its the dvd drive thats gone now.  thanks
[00:26] <Dmitriy> i download stuff all the time...i dont use antivirus software on ubuntu
[00:26] <AfterHoursCanadi> ill go get one tomorrow
[00:26] <unkmar> c_ozzie: if you don't know which /dev it is.  sudo fdisk -l  It will likely be one of the last items listed.  "mount" will tell you what is currently mounted and where.
[00:26] <_DGM_> but again.. why do you need that..  i mean.. the chances of you getting something are reaaaaaaally small. I dont even use an anti virus on windows. Just use your head
[00:26] <moshe> Anyway to boot with grub rescue?
[00:27] <dugger5688> You only really need anti virus in Ubuntu if you're dealing with windows users on ur network. That's why an ubuntu fileserver is ideal, keeps windows PCs from talking to eachother.
[00:27] <Dmitriy> use firestarter
[00:27] <mooshimuushi> This might be an impossible question, but eh.
[00:27] <cellardoor> dugger5688: or clam AV
[00:27] <_DGM_> mooshimuushi: thats not a question
[00:27] <_DGM_> xD
[00:27] <mooshimuushi> Can the appearance of the bootup manager change?
[00:27] <cellardoor> mooshimuushi: yes it can :)
[00:28] <mooshimuushi> _DGM_:Intro, intro :D
[00:28] <_DGM_> hehehehe
[00:28] <obunto> what part of the installation is left unencrypted after a full disk encryption install using the alternate install CD?
[00:28] <Dmitriy> download and use ubuntu servr edition then you wont have to worry about windows on your network
[00:28] <_DGM_> damn i locked myself out from my server.. great
[00:28] <mooshimuushi> Not the boot up. Where you wait for the line to go back and fro.
[00:28] <mooshimuushi> I might b saying it wrong...the grub part.
[00:29] <mooshimuushi> Where you select an OS.
[00:29] <cellardoor> mooshimuushi: yeah, grub, can be changed :)
[00:29] <mooshimuushi> Only the background.
[00:29] <mooshimuushi> Or do I need to get updated?
[00:29] <mooshimuushi> xD
[00:29] <_DGM_> you can change the grub menu to run in text mode with different colors, or in graphical mode and then you can have some image background
[00:29] <unkmar> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/vLmGPxk6  - upgrade failed with a kernel panic.  [ Call in the general ]
[00:30] <mooshimuushi> What if you want to change it into a MAC looking grub/boot up.
[00:30] <_DGM_> but my suggestion would be to not mess with that stuff unless you know what you're doing.. or if you have a live cd at hand to fix anything that might preventyou from booting at all
[00:30] <erik_> can someone tell me i need help with installing ubuntu 10.04 i am having video problem when the pc boots the monitor goes blank
[00:30] <obunto> _DGM_, can you bootup the encryption password screen with an onscreen keyboard?
[00:30] <cellardoor> mooshimuushi: tricky, dont think such designs exist
[00:30] <crevox> Hello, is there an application that can make .iso files out of my cds?
[00:30] <Dmitriy> blank when booting windows?
[00:30] <erik_> there was a site i had saved before but i cant find it now
[00:30] <mooshimuushi> cellardoor: Yeah, so I thought as well.
[00:30] <_DGM_> obunto: no idea i dont use encryption
[00:30] <tim> crevox, yes, the "dd" command
[00:30] <Dmitriy> or blank when booting ubuntu?
[00:30] <unkmar> _DGM_: I had a rainbow and a unicorn with a stary background.  Was tough reading through the rainbow.
[00:30] <_DGM_> my datas arent so interresting
[00:30] <bastid_raZor> crevox: k3b can or possibly brasero
[00:31] <_DGM_> unkmar: haha
[00:31] <tim> crevox, like this "dd if=/dev/sr0 of=image.iso"
[00:31] <erik_> it boots then my monitors goes black
[00:31] <erik_> an does nothing
[00:31] <crevox> tim,  Thanks
[00:31] <Dmitriy> any blinking cursors?
[00:31] <crevox> bastid_raZor, Thanks
[00:31] <erik_> no
[00:31] <Bynw> hi all, wondering if anyone can help me figure out why cheese webcam booth wont take video images but does ok with just single or multiple shots
[00:31] <tim> crevox, that makes a block for block copy
[00:31] <Dmitriy> are you using proprietary video drivers?
[00:32] <Dmitriy> or opensource?
[00:32] <erik_> somkething to do with grub 2 an kaRMAIC
[00:32] <rww> !who
[00:32] <erik_> NO
[00:32] <erik_> using the drivers on 10.04 cd
[00:32] <divadgnol67> he is not using any drivers because he can't get it to boot
[00:32] <mooshimuushi> Blinking cursors?
[00:32] <c_ozzie> it was mounted on /dev/sdk, I then right clicked it and did "Safely Remove Drive", dd if=usb.img of=/dev/sdk, and it returns "no medium found"
[00:32] <erik_> no
[00:32] <Bynw> Dmitriy, i don't believe so
[00:32] <mooshimuushi> Wow. I hate to change my cursor.
[00:33] <erik_> the monitor goes into sleep  mode
[00:33] <mooshimuushi> It takes a long time for me to change my cursor :D
[00:33] <tim> c_ozzie, well, what did you expect?
[00:33] <erik_> something to do with new slpash screen
[00:33] <divadgnol67> eric > try booting nofb or something like that. not sure use unix not linux
[00:33] <unkmar> tim: he expected the usb.img to magically work.
[00:34] <erik_> why unix
[00:34] <mooshimuushi> Sorry if I'm wrong. Can we ask about games in this server?
[00:34] <divadgnol67> why not?
[00:34] <Roush427r> Hey, I have a Toshiba Satellite A25 with Ubuntu Lucid on it, and when it turns on, the fans start running really fast and loud and nothing comes on the screen.
[00:34] <tim> c_ozzie, if you removed the drive, the expected result would be that you would not be able to write to it
[00:34] <erik_> i want ubuntu
[00:34] <Dmitriy> erik, try changing the resolution of the boot screen and use white text on black screen
[00:34] <dugger5688> mooshimuushi: if it's in ubuntu, sure!
[00:34] <Roush427r> Can that be a hardware problem?
[00:34] <erik_> how is that done
[00:34] <mooshimuushi> Ok then :D
[00:34] <divadgnol67>  eric >no problem, what video card do you have
[00:35] <erik_> intel onbaord
[00:35]  * unkmar looks around for a fairy, unicorn, and leprachaun.  I'll use a Pot to cook up the fairy, unicorn, and leprachaun for a charming stew.
[00:35] <mooshimuushi> Anyone know any good mmorpg games? (for ubuntu of course :D)
[00:35] <tim> erik_, the regular ubuntu install CD can be booted into a live system
[00:35] <_DGM_> wow works fine on ubuntu
[00:35] <Dmitriy> erik, go to system>startup applications
[00:35] <_DGM_> its all you need really
[00:35] <divadgnol67> great idea tim. eric have you tried the live cd?
[00:35] <mooshimuushi> WoW?
[00:35] <_DGM_> yea
[00:35] <erik_> ok
[00:35] <aroman> mooshimuushi, Well RuneScape is cross-platform and Guild Wars (Windows) runs perfectly (it's like THE most compatible WINE game).
[00:36] <brad_> does anyone know why I have to run dhclient manually on a friend of mine's ubuntu machine to get it to get an ip address?
[00:36] <c_ozzie> tim: the drive is still physically connected to the comptuer, and i'm 40 miles away, i hit the safe remove on accident and need to know if it's possible to force ubuntu to re-detect the drive
[00:36] <Rotham> anyone have an idea how much memory do you need to run photoshop cs4 in winXP (inside Vbox)
[00:36] <erik_> it installs then on reboot has the problem
[00:36] <mooshimuushi> WoW, Guild Wars and Runescape.
[00:36] <Dmitriy> erik, advanced>bootloader menu resolution to something small like 640X480
[00:36] <ehcah> How bad will the performance of a 10.4 desktop running off of a 16GB Sandisk Cruzer pen drive?
[00:36] <_DGM_> aroman: wow runs just as good on wine. blizzard spend a lot of time to make that happen
[00:36] <unkmar> brad_: wired or wirelesss?
[00:36] <cellardoor> mooshimuushi: WoW
[00:36] <divadgnol67> eric, can you boot another linux and give us the output of dmesg
[00:36] <brad_> wired
[00:36] <cellardoor> mooshimuushi: will run under linux fine :)
[00:36] <erik_> how im not newbie
[00:36] <tim> ehcah, bearable, probably
[00:36] <aroman> _DGM_, Actually? Why not release a Linux native client..?
[00:36] <_DGM_> actually a lot of games run fine under wine nowadays if not just a little slow
[00:36] <ehcah> just bearable?
[00:36] <unkmar> brad_: did you connect the wire before or after booting?
[00:36] <mooshimuushi> cellardoor: roger :D
[00:37] <brad_> before booting
[00:37] <brad_> rebooting has no effect
[00:37] <_DGM_> aroman: because then they have to change platform specific code.. this saves them time and has the same effect
[00:37] <mooshimuushi> WoW, I have to find a private server.
[00:37] <divadgnol67> sorry! ubuntu should be a great place to start.  I didn't know that. But I've never played wow :)
[00:37] <mooshimuushi> Guild Wars?
[00:37] <cellardoor> mooshimuushi: you need to run it with WINE though
[00:37] <mooshimuushi> Private Servers are free :D
[00:37] <unkmar> brad_: I assume gnome with its network manager?  Is network enabled and not set to a static IP?
[00:37] <aroman> mooshimuushi, I've played GW before, it's fun.
[00:38] <brad_> correct
[00:38] <brad_> set to use dhcp for ipv4
[00:38] <erik_> look im new to linux
[00:38] <_DGM_> mooshimuushi: they're also crappy, buggy and missing a lot of stuff
[00:38] <mooshimuushi> cellardoor: Got it all under control :D
[00:38] <Roush427r> Hey, I have a Toshiba Satellite A25 with Ubuntu Lucid on it, and when it turns on, the fans start running really fast and loud and nothing comes on the screen. Can that be a hardware problem?
[00:38] <moshe>  Why I cant see the grub menu and os just loads?
[00:38] <erik_> alot of what yur saying is foreign
[00:38] <mooshimuushi> aroman: Thank you for the heads up. I'll check it right now.
[00:38] <aroman> moshe, Have you set your grub to do that?
[00:38] <aroman> mooshimuushi, Yup :)
[00:38] <erik_> im on linux now
[00:38] <unkmar> moshe: grub timeout is really short?
[00:38] <bazhang> erik_, what version of ubuntu
[00:38] <tim> Roush427r, there is no video at all, ever?
[00:38] <rww> moshe: hold down shift at boot
[00:39] <ZykoticK9> moshe, you can hold down the shift key as computer starts to get the grub2 menu
[00:39] <mooshimuushi> _DGM_: I like to talk for most asians within this world...it's FREE XDD
[00:39] <divadgnol67> eric > what did you do reboot?
[00:39] <Bynw> here is what happens in cheese when i goto record video. the cheese window goes black for a few moments then i get to see a still image of whatever was in front of the webcam and when i click stop recording ... cheese locks up and has to be forced quit. i do get an .ogv file 0 bytes in size saved
[00:39] <moshe> aroman: No I did not touch anything
[00:39] <Roush427r> tim: correct. I think there is by chance it overheated
[00:39] <_DGM_> mooshimuushi: i know.. but it doesnt give you the game experience at all :P its soo different.. its not fun at all
[00:39] <tim> Roush427r, yeah, sounds like your laptop is broken
[00:39] <nimbiotics> how do i make sudo privileges permanent for the life of the terminal session? TIA!
[00:39] <aroman> moshe, Did you install updates? Has this always been like this? Details :)
[00:39]  * unkmar decides installing debian will eliminate his Ubuntu upgrade problem.
[00:39] <misteralexander> I formatted my external HDD using gparted and now I don't have permissions on the new filesystem . . . i have to sudo everything in terminal to do anything on the drive . . . any idea?
[00:39] <aroman> nimbiotics, Look into root sudo
[00:39] <erik_> ubuntu 9.04
[00:39] <_DGM_> misteralexander: use chown
[00:40] <tim> nimbiotics, edit the sudoers file to enable the "admin" group for NOPASSWD and add your user to the admin group
[00:40] <mooshimuushi> _DGM_: Private Server does make it easier to level up. (well...most private servers)
[00:40] <bazhang> erik_, you got the intel bug for that?
[00:40] <tenshinoneko_> Hello ^^ Anyone knows how to enable Ad-Hoc as Wireless B only?
[00:40] <Roush427r> tim: Damn... oh well it's practically a dinosaur. It still has a floppy drive in it...
[00:40] <_DGM_> mooshimuushi: yea and then what :P you stand around ?
[00:40] <mooshimuushi> _DGM_: So I guess your statement is true :D
[00:40] <moshe> aroman: I just installed ubuntu
[00:40] <aroman> tim, That's super insecure.
[00:40] <nimbiotics> tim: thanks
[00:40] <erik_> not on 9.04
[00:40] <mooshimuushi> _DGM_: True, True.
[00:40] <tim> aroman, I know
[00:40] <misteralexander> _DGM: in terminal, as root, navigate to the drive /media/drive and then "chown 777" ???
[00:40] <divadgnol67> huh? you had to backwards. oh well, whatever works, right?
[00:40] <bazhang> mooshimuushi, _DGM_ please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:40] <erik_> only when i try to install 9.10 or 10.04
[00:40] <unkmar> oh, and my 6.06 will NEVER be upgraded.
[00:41] <moshe> aroman:  root arg has a wrong device in it and the system won't load
[00:41] <mooshimuushi> bazhang: Ahaha, Sorry ^^"
[00:41] <_DGM_> misteralexander: no.. chown changes user owner. Say if your username is john, you can sudo chown -R john:john /path/to/your/media
[00:41] <divadgnol67> eric > go into a terminal and enter dmesg and past the output and I will see if i can help
[00:41] <tim> nimbiotics, alternatively, you can just do "sudo su -" and you will have a root terminal until such time as you close it (more secure)
[00:41] <rww> unkmar: enjoy your lack of security updates
[00:41] <bazhang> tim, sudo -i NOT sudo su
[00:41] <misteralexander> _DGM: okay, i'll read up on that command . . . thanks for the lead!
[00:41] <RS8000> why is 'free -m' showing only 3276mb total, i have 4gb and PAE kernel?
[00:42] <mooshimuushi> _DGM_: Let's leave it as that. You win :D
[00:42] <erik_> there  was a article about editing grub
[00:42] <rww> !memory | RS8000
[00:42] <_DGM_> mooshimuushi: woot! xD
[00:42] <tim> bazhang, either works
[00:42] <mooshimuushi> Ok, Guild Wars is looking up. WoW is also looking up :D
[00:42] <bazhang> tim, no
[00:42] <_DGM_> mooshimuushi: now go buy the game!
[00:42] <nimbiotics> tim: thats more what im looking for.  Sorry ^^"
[00:43] <erik_> ok
[00:43] <erik_> i ran
[00:43] <erik_> dmesg
[00:43] <nathan406> how can i choose a mouse to use from the terminal?
[00:43] <divadgnol67> eric > give us the output of lspci
[00:44] <erik_> erik@erik-desktop:~$ dmesg
[00:44] <erik_> [    0.000000] BIOS EBDA/lowmem at: 0009fc00/0009fc00
[00:44] <erik_> [    0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
[00:44] <erik_> [    0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
[00:44] <erik_> [    0.000000] Linux version 2.6.28-19-generic (buildd@rothera) (gcc version 4.3.3 (Ubuntu 4.3.3-5ubuntu4) ) #65-Ubuntu SMP Thu Sep 16 14:14:28 UTC 2010 (Ubuntu 2.6.28-19.65-generic)
[00:44] <FloodBot1> erik_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:44] <divadgnol67> sorry!!!!
[00:45] <Bynw> anyone able to help me with my webcam and cheese not taking video
[00:45] <elit3m1ke> Bynw have the same problems
[00:45] <divadgnol67> eric > you can locate the type of video card using lspci and then tell me what card you have it will look somthing like this 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
[00:45] <sanjoy> is there any drawing soft in ubuntu ?
[00:45] <sanjoy> is there any drawing soft in ubuntu ?
[00:46] <sanjoy> like MS paint
[00:46] <elit3m1ke> @Bynw is it a laptop
[00:46] <obunto> sanjoy, just open ubuntu software center
[00:46] <moshe> Sanjoy it has gimp
[00:46] <Bynw> elit3m1ke, no its a desktop
[00:46] <elit3m1ke> Bynw what webcam is it?
[00:46] <ppq> sanjoy, i like kolourpaint
[00:46] <erik_>  Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[00:47] <robisinho> what does it mean when xev shows keyboard input but still it doesnt let me type, except the number pad?
[00:47] <erik_> intel
[00:47] <erik_> anyone here
[00:47] <obunto> does anyone know what part of the installation is left unencrypted after a full disk encryption install using the alternate install CD?
[00:47] <Bynw> elit3m1ke, creative webcam live!
[00:48] <divadgnol67> erik > there are many types of intel cards be more specific
[00:48] <ppq> sanjoy, openoffice.org-draw is also good. but not for the kind of drawing you do with ms paint. and of course gimp
[00:48] <sanjoy> gimp can edit bt can it draw pic?
[00:48] <erik_> thats best i can dso
[00:48] <erik_> im not a damn linux guri
[00:48] <erik_> guru
[00:48] <elit3m1ke> bynw http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=543204
[00:48] <robisinho> what does it mean when xev shows keyboard input but still it doesnt let me type, except the number pad?
[00:49] <ppq> sanjoy, yes, using gimp you can draw like with ms paint with much more features
[00:49] <sanjoy> owwww
[00:49] <erik_> can some one please help
[00:49] <robisinho> I installed nouveau-firmware package and since then the keyboard doesnt work. uninstalling it, and even reinstlaling gdm, didnt resolve the problem
[00:49] <divadgnol67> erik > no problem we are here to help. go to a terminal and just type "lspci" and look for something to do with vga
[00:49] <sanjoy> thnx guys
[00:49] <divadgnol67> no quotes
[00:49] <erik_> i gave it to u
[00:50] <divadgnol67> ok, sorry. i thought for sure there would be more info than just intel
[00:50] <erik_> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[00:51] <erik_> thats all there is
[00:51] <robisinho> !bug
[00:51] <divadgnol67> perfect! let me check to see if there is a bug with that particular card
[00:51] <erik_> i already know there
[00:51] <erik_> is
[00:52] <divadgnol67> well if there is a bug and no workaround then your screwed for lack of a better term. but let me check anyway
[00:52] <robisinho> how do I report a bug manually? I cant type on the computer with the bug, so I cant follow the instructions in !bug
[00:53] <papertigers> anyone running 10.10 on a macbook pro?
[00:53] <erik_> if im screwed oh well
[00:53] <cellardoor> robisinho: use Launchpad.net
[00:53] <nellie> I have a old radeon 2600 agp card and I am upgrading to a geforce 7600 agp card and im running ubuntu 10.04 and I need to know how to uninstall all ati drivers before I reboot and install the new geforce card
[00:53] <robisinho> cellardoor: ty
[00:53] <erik_> i was told to edit something in grub
[00:54] <elit3m1ke> papertigers i have 10.04 running on a macbook if thats any use
[00:54] <erik_> has anyone else had this problem
[00:54] <ugliefrog> how do i tur off the window bar fade...when i click off the window it the bar at the top fades until i clik it again...how do i turn this feature off
[00:54] <divadgnol67> i will help if i can give me a moment to look into it
[00:55] <Jinxzs> what is the shutdown command i want to create a launcher in desktop to shutdown
[00:55] <elit3m1ke> shutdown -h now
[00:55] <cellardoor> Jinxzs: sudo shutdown -h ow
[00:55] <Arkados> right now on my Acer Aspire One, running Ubuntu Netbook 10.04 (custom install, not pre-installed).  So far I'm very happy with this :D  Many thanks to all contributors !
[00:55] <cellardoor> Jinxzs: now*
[00:56] <nellie> whats best way to remove all ati drivers before I upgrade video card
[00:56] <Braber01> I'm back I used the package manager to install all the g15 tools and I still can't get any of my altnerte keyboard layouts to work :(
[00:56] <Marikawn> Hello. Can someone help me? I have a problem downloading updates. it seems my repository information is corrupt
[00:57] <Marikawn> I get his information:
[00:57] <Marikawn> E: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5/php5-common_5.3.2-1ubuntu4.2_i386.deb: 404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[00:57] <Braber01> I'm back I used the package manager to install all the g15 tools and I still can't get any of my altnerte keyboard layouts to work :(
[00:57] <rww> Marikawn: have you updated your package lists recently?
[00:57] <Marikawn> now i have not
[00:58] <Marikawn> no*
[00:58] <joshuuaa> hi everybody
[00:58] <rww> try that, then
[00:58] <Marikawn> awesome thinking
[00:58] <no_u0> hey i pluggin a usb wifi dongle. ifconfig shows it as wlan1, but how do i make network manager use wlan1 isntead of wlan0?
[00:58] <Braber01> I'm back I used the package manager to install all the g15 tools and I still can't get any of my altnerte keyboard layouts to work :(
[00:58] <zaftig> could anyone help me?
[00:58] <elit3m1ke> no_u0 are you using gnome?
[00:58] <joshuuaa> does anyone know if it's possible to have vertical sync with nouveau drivers?
[00:59] <oldschooller> Hey guys! There's example.com site based on VDS. I've added subdomain subdomain.example.com in VDS control panel - A-record which points to another VDS, waited a day, but when I try subdomain.example.com in browser - I get page from example.com VDS. Could you please give me some advice?
[00:59] <no_u0> elit3m1ke: kde
[00:59] <no_u0> elit3m1ke: but im still using networkmanager
[00:59] <erik_> were you able to find answer
[01:00] <elit3m1ke> no_u0 sorry dotn know much about kde, try editing the networkmanager config file
[01:00] <zaftig> I am trying to put the new 10.10 beta on an CD I had used for 10.04, but it says the filesystem is read-only? Any help? Thanks :)
[01:00] <Jinxzs> sudo shutdown -h now -thats what i type in command
[01:00] <Jinxzs> it wont shutdown
[01:00] <divadgnol67> erik > it looks like a problem with the xorg.conf file but not sure how to correct it yet but looking into it
[01:00] <nellie> do I need to remove my ati drivers before I install nvidia card
[01:00] <elit3m1ke> Jinxzs try sudo halt
[01:00] <no_u0> elit3m1ke: how would you do it in gnome
[01:01] <elit3m1ke> gnome would usually pick it up straight away
[01:01] <Braber01> HOW CAN I GET MY ALT KEYBOARD LAYOUTS TO WORK I am using a G15 keyboard and I have installed every package with g15 in the name
[01:01] <verd> oldschooller, what does #host subdomain.example.com or #nslookup say?
[01:01] <joshuuaa> sorry if my english is bad, I can't find help in french forumsn, but does anyone know if it's possible to have vertical sync with nouveau drivers?
[01:01] <no_u0> caps, rly?
[01:01] <cellardoor> !caps | Braber01
[01:01] <Braber01> sorry :(
[01:02] <erik_> when i installed ubuntu 9.10 i rebooted then the monitor goes black an just sits there can someone please help
[01:02] <Braber01> I was getting fustrated :'(
[01:02] <cellardoor> Braber01: the G15 is that gaming keyboard with the little display at the top right?
[01:02] <Braber01> yes it has the display at the top
[01:02] <divadgnol67> erik > got it, here is the link to a step by step resolution https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes
[01:02] <_DGM_> cellardoor: yes and no. Funny thing is there are 2 versions. The older original one with an lcd that got taken off the market. The current g15 doesnt have an lcd
[01:03] <Braber01> I have the one with the lcd
[01:03] <cellardoor> Braber01: drivers for that keyboard have not yet come out on linux, so unless you research into ndiswrapper which i dont htink is even for keyboard drivers, you cant change the layouts, sorry :(
[01:03] <_DGM_> looking at it now.. there are actually 3 versions
[01:03] <_DGM_> jeez..
[01:03] <cellardoor> _DGM_: can you help him
[01:03] <_DGM_> the new one is orange apparently
[01:03] <_DGM_> whats his problem?
[01:03] <Braber01> okay thank you cellardoor
[01:04] <cellardoor> _DGM_: layout changing, on the keyboard, but i think that would entail needing drivers, which he most likely doesnt have, he has gone now anyway :P
[01:04] <zaftig> nevermind. Thanks for your help...
[01:04] <_DGM_> layout changing? that doesnt sound like a problem specific to the g15 to me
[01:04] <cellardoor> _DGM_: i was confused by it too :/
[01:05] <_DGM_> i dont even have my g15 installed right now.. i just put it on US and it has always worked fine
[01:05] <oldschooller> verd, the same IP ! This is not my own server. By the way - when I go to subdomain.example.com and watch http headers in Firefox I get HTTP/1.1 302 Found and location to some page on example.com/some/page
[01:05] <_DGM_> you can tell because i'm typing on here ;)
[01:05] <unkmar> upgrade to 10.04 from 8.04 failed !!!!!!!!!! http://pastebin.com/bRf8GK1T
[01:06] <_DGM_> unkmar: just do a clean install if you're going to upgrade that far
[01:06] <unkmar> _DGM_: that far?  LTS to LTS.
[01:06] <Dice-Man> aw
[01:06] <verd> oldschooller, subdomain still points to the first VDS's ip?
[01:06] <_DGM_> 8 to 10.. is huge
[01:07] <Dice-Man> yep
[01:07] <WinstonSmith> i did that te other day with a headless server 8.04 to 10.04
[01:07] <Dice-Man> unkmar, you better format the / partition
[01:07] <papertigers> elit3m1ke: I hated the trackpad under 10.04, did you find a way of making it ignore your thumb when using it?
[01:07] <unkmar> _DGM_: that is the freaking point of holding out.  LTS to LTS.  not half baked versions in between.
[01:07] <Dice-Man> and install via a livecd
[01:07] <WinstonSmith> worked fine just my vbox coughed a bit :P
[01:07] <unkmar> /ignore Dice-Man
[01:08] <_DGM_> unkmar: yea i never really got the point of that unless you're a company that needs the long term support. either way.. big upgrades like that tend to fail a lot. its just how it is
[01:08] <unkmar> I don't listen to induhviduals.
[01:08] <Dice-Man> unkmar, boa i was not kidding
[01:08] <Dice-Man> i'm not a pro
[01:08] <oldschooller> verd, Yeah! A-record added in CP doesn't work and I have strange redirect but I can't see any redirects in CP
[01:08] <tim> unkmar, that is quite a step from 8 to 10 but it should have worked
[01:09] <TELL0> hello
[01:09] <_DGM_> hello tello
[01:09] <unkmar> _DGM_: tend to fail?  heh, so do the little upgrades.  I held out for nearly 6 months. those things are suppose to be guaranteed to go smoothly.  Not barf in your face.  Kernel Panic.
[01:09] <TELL0> how can I set a login sound?
[01:09] <WinstonSmith> canonical say explicitly that you CAN upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04
[01:09] <tim> unkmar, kernel panic? well, that's a deeper issue than the upgrade
[01:10] <_DGM_> a driver module that didnt update?
[01:10] <cellardoor> unkmar: nothing is guarenteed with linux, most double-distribution upgrades are risky since so much changes
[01:10] <verd> oldschooller, #dig subdomain.example.com @ns.server
[01:10] <tim> _DGM_, huh? they're part of the kernel package
[01:10] <cellardoor> unkmar: but bugs get ironed out in further upgrades
[01:10] <_DGM_> but whats the actual problem.. i mean you can just backup your stuff, install 10.04 and continue enjoying it
[01:10] <no_u01> how do i change from wlan0 to wlan1 ? Xx
[01:11] <TELL0> I make an alternate install of ubuntu and I'm setting things up manually, but I cannot set de login sound. I already chose it on sound preferences, but how can I play at startup?
[01:11] <elit3m1ke> no_u01 try this im not sure if it will work but, sudo ifconfig wlan0 down, then sudo ifconfig wlan1 up
[01:12] <c_ozzie> trying again: I accidentally hit "Safely Remove Drive" on a flash drive that's connected to a computer I'm VNC'd into and am 40 miles away from. The flash drive is still plugged in to the computer. Aside from rebooting, is there any way to get Ubuntu to re-detect the flash drive? It still shows up in "Computer", but double clicking it does nothing, and when I try to dd to it, I get "no media found". It doesn't show up in fdisk -l, an
[01:12] <Sivik> ok, i added a user and trying to ftp to that user.  it says my password is incorrect
[01:12] <tim> c_ozzie, you could try unloading and reloading the usb_storage driver
[01:12] <Sivik> even though I just set the password for passwd <user>
[01:12] <cellardoor> c_ozzie: did you try 'sudo mount /dev/sdk /mnt'?
[01:12] <Sivik> what am I don't wrong
[01:13] <_DGM_> Sivik: is that user allowed to access ftp?
[01:13] <no_u0> elit3m1ke: it just reenabled wlan0 when i said wlan1 up xD
[01:14] <Sivik> does that mean I need to add it to the ftp group?
[01:14] <_DGM_> ye
[01:14] <c_ozzie> tim: you mean just rmmod and then modprobe it? didn't work
[01:14] <elit3m1ke> try just doing the first command and see if it works
[01:14] <c_ozzie> cellardoor: fails with "/dev/sdk: unknown device"
[01:14] <Sivik> hey _DGM_, none of my users are part of the ftp group but other users can connect to ftp without any issues.  I just created the user
[01:14] <tim> c_ozzie, well, it would be "sdk1" or whatever
[01:14] <Licuadora> JOIN #BLENDER
[01:15] <tim> Sivik, what do the logs on the server say?
[01:15] <verd> no_u0, is your wlan1 presented in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules?
[01:15] <sjefen6> how do I make the grub menu appaiar during regular boot (like F8 for windows)
[01:15] <Sivik> i will look at it in a few
[01:15] <Licuadora> Hi.
[01:15] <oldschooller> verd, shows the same "old" IP... Maybe I should add subdomain not via CP of VDS but via CP of domain registrar ? And maybe there's some docs in the Net where I can learn about relations between registrars and hosting providers?
[01:16] <cellardoor> sjefen6: edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[01:16] <Jordan_U> sjefen6: Hold shift during boot.
[01:16] <Licuadora> this is a test render, but how do I avoid... those, lines is the walls?
[01:16] <cellardoor> sjefen6: as sudo or root
[01:16] <Licuadora> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9041618/LA%20CASA.png
[01:16] <tim> cellardoor, there is no menu.lst in 10.04
[01:16] <Jinxzs> xubuntu i cant see the network how to set it up, there is a file i want to transfer
[01:16] <cellardoor> Licuadora: this is not an ubuntu topic, please move to #blender
[01:16] <Licuadora> Oh, sorry, wrong channel
[01:16] <cellardoor> tim: wow I need to keep up :( where is it now then
[01:17] <sjefen6> shift did it, thanks Jordan_U :D
[01:17] <Dice-Man> Licuadora, they are cool guy there !
[01:17] <no_u0> verd: yes
[01:17] <Jordan_U> sjefen6: You're welcome :)
[01:17] <no_u0> verd: i see it in ifconfig also
[01:17] <jonathan> Hi! Is there any way, currently, to avoid this annoying problem: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/24412/
[01:17] <no_u0> verd: http://pastie.org/1181809
[01:17] <tim> cellardoor, I have been upgrading in place since 2006 or so, so I didn't notice either, until I installed 10.04 fresh the other day. There are lots of configuration changes, grub is one ... I'm still trying to figure out how it is supposed to be done
[01:18] <cellardoor> tim: hasnt a lot of stuff been moved into /usr/, i have noticed that
[01:18] <devzero> hey, I'm having a problem that is beyond my capabilities and I'm looking for some ideas
[01:18] <verd> oldschooller, it depends on what ns servers domain example.com is served by, if it's registrar's ns, A record can be added via registrar's CP
[01:18] <tim> cellardoor, "stuff" ? like what?
[01:19] <devzero> I have a thinkpad T23 laptop with a fresh 10.04 install on it
[01:19] <jrib> !enter | devzero
[01:19] <obunto> does anyone know what part of the installation is left unencrypted after a full disk encryption install using the alternate install CD?
[01:19] <cellardoor> tim: just general config files similar to importance and use as menu.lst, cant remember what off the top of my head
[01:19] <unkmar> _DGM_: the actual problem is: the system will now be down for days. I don't have time to be waste FIXING what shouldn't be broke.
[01:19] <devzero> and I have 5 (yes 5 NICs I'm trying) and they all are able to send out DHCP requests, the DHCP server sends responses, but none of hte NICs in the laptop see the response packets
[01:20] <devzero> 2 are wifi, 2 are wired plus the built-in ethernet
[01:20] <devzero> dhcp fails for all of them
[01:20] <verd> no_u0, comment entry for pci device if you don't need it and rename wlan1 to wlan0
[01:20] <unkmar> and I am tempted to leave the system down for month or longer.  Not worth my time.
[01:20] <devzero> but I'm seeing the entries in the DHCP server
[01:21] <devzero> any ideas?
[01:21] <jrib> devzero: please stop pressing enter.  Collect your thoughts and ask a detailed question on a single line
[01:21] <jrib> unkmar: what is your ubuntu support question?
[01:21] <c_ozzie> tim: there is no sdk1, only sdk. thanks anyways
[01:22] <devzero> I have a thinkpad t23 with a fresh 10.04 install. no matter what NIC I use (wifi or wired), it's failing to get an IP address or see any incoming packets. the DHCP server sees the DHCP requests from the laptop and sends responses, but the laptop isn't seeing them. some of the NICs list RX errors, others just don't see packets, any clue what this could be?
[01:23] <trelayne> hey all, anyone know how to turn off the auto screen lock?
[01:23] <bazhang> trelayne, screensaver settings
[01:23] <tim> c_ozzie, then it probably doesn't have a file system on it. Are you sure?
[01:23] <elit3m1ke> system, preferences, screensaver
[01:23] <trelayne> thank you bazhang
[01:23] <jonathan> Wait, so _no one_ here has multiple monitors with different vertical resolution to horizontal res. ratios?
[01:24] <jonathan> Does that mean I am the only one encountering this problem? :(
[01:24] <tim> jonathan, what is the problem? is it nvidia?
[01:24] <tim> or ati, or ... ?
[01:24] <jonathan> tim: Well, X11 seems to think there is space under my shorter monitor that does not exist. :)
[01:24] <jonathan> tim: I end up with dead space that I can move my mouse into, but which is completely undesirable.
[01:25] <jonathan> tim: It becomes harder to navigate to buttons on the bottom of the screen in maximized applications, for example.
[01:25] <tim> jonathan, and your xorg.conf has the right settings for both?
[01:25] <jonathan> tim: My mouse can also get "lost" in the void
[01:25] <jonathan> tim: I don't know if there is a correct way to set it up. :)
[01:25] <jonathan> tim: I believe I specified a virtual monitor spanning both monitors, blah
[01:25] <ppq> c_ozzie, lsusb re-initializes usb devices, tried this?
[01:25] <tim> which driver are you using? I mean what sort of card?
[01:25] <jonathan> tim: an ATI one
[01:25] <devzero> I have a thinkpad t23 with a fresh 10.04 install. no matter what NIC I use (wifi or wired), it's failing to get an IP address or see any incoming packets. the DHCP server sees the DHCP requests from the laptop and sends responses, but the laptop isn't seeing them. some of the NICs list RX errors, others just don't see packets, any clue what this could be? -- I've tried 2 different pcmcia wifi cards, 1 usb wifi card, 1 usb ethernet car
[01:26] <tim> jonathan, are they both DMI? Is one of them VGA?
[01:26] <jonathan> tim: HDMI, you mean? Both are VGA.
[01:27] <elijah> Can I use scp to recursively copy a directory and exclude" one folder from the tree?
[01:28] <firstly> devzero: try the double-check onfigurasi from DHCP server
[01:28] <crispexi> hi. i can't get grub to work. i've tried everything.
[01:28] <ppq> elijah, i dont think so (i'm not sure) but rsync definitely can exclude things. run rsync through ssh to make it secure
[01:28] <joebillxxx> #twot;ove
[01:28] <Hypnosekroete> someone knows a good commandline network monitor for linux ? :o i need this tool monitoring traffic for each application
[01:28] <edbian> Hypnosekroete, iftop
[01:28] <elijah> ppq: Can rsync pull from a web server to my local?
[01:28] <devzero> firstly: thanks, it appears to work with all of my other machines, and I'm seeing the correct DHCP behavior in tcpdump
[01:29] <edbian> elijah, Use wget to pull from webservers
[01:29] <Hypnosekroete> thx edbian
[01:29] <Hypnosekroete> :D
[01:29] <Monkey_Dust> hi - in my login screen, is there any way I can position the input box? Hints & tips anyone?
[01:29] <joebillxxx> hi how do i go to another chatroom? ..no offence of coarse im just new to this
[01:29] <elijah> edbian: Can it login to the server too?
[01:29] <bazhang> joebillxxx, /join #channel
[01:29] <joebillxxx> ok ill try that
[01:30] <tim> elijah, if there is no scp switch for exclude, you could always do something like "scp -r `ls some_directory | grep -v unwanted_directory` "
[01:30] <ppq> elijah, when there's a sshd on the server, rsync works
[01:30] <elijah> ppq: I don't have sshd on my webserver :(
[01:31] <joebillxxx> ok didnt work i think i need a new server too
[01:31] <edbian> elijah, That's much more complicated.  You have to write a program to do that for you.  It's hard.
[01:31] <ppq> elijah, when you are able to use scp, you do
[01:31] <tim> elijah, well then trying to scp to it would not work either
[01:31] <joebillxxx> trying to go to twitlive  for that podcast show
[01:31] <edbian> elijah, How do you log into the server if you don't have ssh?
[01:31] <elijah> tim: I can scp no prob, but when I ran the sshd command it said command not found
[01:32] <edbian> elijah, If you can log in to the server don't use wget.  I'll let tim and ppq help you
[01:32] <firstly> devzero: I usually do pengecakkan through the terminal by typing dhclient nameinterface
[01:32] <edbian> elijah, ssh  not sshd
[01:32] <joebillxxx> ill go check what server its on ..
[01:32] <elijah> edbian: Gotcha, I have ssh
[01:32] <tim> elijah, sshd is started from an init script unless you're debugging or something
[01:32] <tim> it probably wasn't in your path
[01:33] <sweetpi> joebillxxx: twit is on irc.twit.tv
[01:33] <elijah> tim: So the scp route you listed above should work?
[01:33] <sweetpi> oh well
[01:33] <devzero> firstly: yeah, I'm running dhclient from the terminal too, on some of the NICs I see 0 RX packets despite seeing it leave the server via tcpdump, on other nics I see 0 received, but I see incrementing RX errors everytime a response is sent
[01:33] <edbian> elijah, sshd (ssh daemon)  it's the ssh server
[01:33] <tim> elijah, yes, but rsync is better
[01:33] <elijah> edbian: Gotcha
[01:33] <jonathan> So does anyone else have a solution for this "dead-space" problem with multiple monitors?
[01:34] <elijah> tim: How would I use rsync then?
[01:34] <edbian> elijah, man rsync ;)
[01:35] <elijah> I sort of get the concept, use rsync and run it through ssh to make it secure like scp but rsync has more power
[01:35] <devzero> firstly: it looks like there's some kernel networking setting that is wacked out that would cause rx'ed frames from multiple drivers to get corrupted
[01:35] <elijah> How would I run it though SSH though?
[01:35] <edbian> elijah, It is supported natively in the app.  rsync user@host:/path/to/target /path/to/local/folder
[01:36] <RondoRaven> can anybody recommend a current guide on setting up an external monitor with resolution better than 1024x768?
[01:36] <firstly> devzero: I do not think like that, if the correct configuration meets these demands can try it with 2 pc
[01:37] <RondoRaven> I have a fresh install after repeatedly borking my system with no success
[01:37] <elijah> edbian: Nice
[01:38] <edbian> elijah, Linux is great huh?
[01:38] <devzero> firstly: what do you mean? a crossover cable? I am pretty sure the cable and switch are working correctly - I tested them with a different computer and they work fine
[01:38] <elijah> edbian: yeah, pretty amazing!
[01:38] <ppq> elijah, for ssh, you have to specify it: rsync -e ssh and then the rest
[01:38] <devzero> firstly: and this happens on both wifi and ethernet
[01:38] <edbian> elijah, Perhaps he's right^^
[01:38] <KGF2009> Holy crap. This has to be the biggest channel I have -ever- been in.
[01:38] <edbian> KGF2009, ha ha :)
[01:39] <elijah> KGF2009: I think you are right, about 3 years ago it was still at around 900
[01:39] <KGF2009> I've never been in a channel above 300, and now BOOM, 1200.
[01:39] <edbian> KGF2009, Usually it's closer to 1500
[01:39] <dtcrshr> KGF2009, thats the way we do it
[01:40] <firstly> devzero: if in another computer worked fine then it could be concluded
[01:40] <KGF2009> Took forever for irssi to get the namelist.
[01:41] <AnthonyFer12> good night
[01:41] <ppq> elijah, you probably also like to use --exclude=/foo/bar option
[01:41] <AnthonyFer12> can somebody tell me how to install networkmanager.. the newest version
[01:42] <ppq> but ok you can read for ourself :) going to sleep now.
[01:42] <ppq> +y
[01:42] <edbian> AnthonyFer12, It's installed by default I believe
[01:42] <elijah> ppq: Haha, I was just going to ask if that was the right command, rsync man page is a monster
[01:42] <AnthonyFer12> really how can you tell_
[01:42] <firstly> devzero: if the computer is working at what other networks to function properly?
[01:42] <AnthonyFer12> ?
[01:42] <ppq> elijah, it's long but imho it's very good. in opposite to most manpages
[01:42] <edbian> AnthonyFer12, It's the little networking applet on the gnome-panel.
[01:43] <elijah> ppq: Yeah, I suppose I will appreciate the power as I grow
[01:43] <teen4God> hi there i installed ubuntu on my laptop, but my headphone jack isn't working
[01:43] <wst> :))
[01:43] <AnthonyFer12> yeah I see it there... its version <IP_ADDRESS> I need the new version 0.8.1
[01:43] <elijah> teen4God: Open the terminal and type alsamixer
[01:44] <AnthonyFer12> seems that correct a bug with using broadband internet with one of these USB flash keys
[01:44] <teen4God> ok
[01:44] <elijah> ppq: Would it matter if the -e ssh came before or after the --exclude=/foo/bar ??
[01:44] <edbian> elijah, nope
[01:44] <elijah> teen4God: Do you have a mixer screen?
[01:45] <elijah> edbian: thx
[01:45] <ppq> elijah, the order of the options is not so important
[01:45] <teen4God> yea
[01:45] <ppq> have to leave now, good luck, elijah
[01:45] <elijah> ppq: adios
[01:46] <RondoRaven> does anybody here use an external monitor?
[01:46] <teen4God> elijah I go the screen and my headphone setting is the same as my speaker which works
[01:46] <Guest74945> hello
[01:46] <KGF2009> RondoRaven: Define external?
[01:46] <firenx> well then, just booted 10.04 LTS and i get nothing on the screen :(
[01:46] <wst> how cani set eth0 to to be default?
[01:46] <firenx> off the livecd/install disc
[01:46] <edbian> Guest74945, hello
[01:47] <RondoRaven> KGF2009: plugged into laptop by VGA
[01:47] <quag> Which package installs crontab (for crontab -e)?
[01:47] <elijah> edbian: Would this be right?  rsync -e ssh --exclude=/foo/bar elijah@remoteserver.com:/foo
[01:47] <edbian> quag, crontab is installed by default
[01:47] <I_want_ely> RondoRaven, i have a desktop so i guess you could call it an external monitor
[01:47] <quag> edbian: hmmm... that's what I thought.
[01:47] <quag> edbian: but it is missing :(
[01:47] <elijah> teen4God: That is as far as i can help you, as long as your headphone jack level is up that is a good 1st step
[01:47] <edbian> elijah, You need a destination
[01:47] <Guest74945> okay... i am installing vmware server on ubuntu 10.04 x64 and i keep getting the same error can anyone help me?
[01:47] <KGF2009> wst: Right click on your connections, go to Edit Connections, select eth0 and click edit, and check 'Connect Automatically'.
[01:47] <edbian> quag, Then I'm not sure what package it's in.  crontab ?
[01:48] <KGF2009> RondoRaven: Whatcha need?
[01:48] <elijah> edbian: So  rsync -e ssh --exclude=/foo/bar elijah@remoteserver.com:/foo /home/elijah/desktop
[01:48] <Guest42629> hello
[01:48] <RondoRaven> OK then let's call it auxilliary?
[01:48] <Guest74945> okay... i am installing vmware server on ubuntu 10.04 x64 and i keep getting the same error can anyone help me?
[01:48] <quag> edbian: actually, it may be that cron isn't installed at all
[01:48] <edbian> elijah, Yeah.
[01:48] <millertimek1a2m3> hey!
[01:48] <millertimek1a2m3> wats up
[01:48] <Name141> Are all of the *buntu's about the same installed?
[01:49] <Name141> in terms of disk space
[01:49] <Guest74945> okay... i am installing vmware server on ubuntu 10.04 x64 and i keep getting the same error can anyone help me?
[01:49] <edbian> Name141, yeah
[01:49] <KGF2009> RondoRaven: Sure. What's your issue?
[01:49] <wst> using inteface eth0
[01:49] <wst> ERROR: libnet_select_device(): none(): can't find interface eth0
[01:49] <RondoRaven> KGF2009: well 1024x1068 is not a very useful resolution
[01:49] <wst> how can i pass on eth0?
[01:50] <Name141> edbian: would xfce (xubuntu) run 'that much better' than Gnome on old hardware?
[01:50] <RondoRaven> KGF: 1024x1068
[01:50] <c_ozzie> Guest74945: what is the error?
[01:50] <KGF2009> RondoRaven: System -> Preferences -> Monitors; I think you can set a resolution per monitor there.
[01:50] <gartral> i cant launch firefox. i simply get "Bus Error" then returned to prompt, can anyone advise?
[01:50] <RondoRaven> KGF2009: 1024x768 (flustered)
[01:50] <edbian> Name141, In my opinion they run the same.
[01:50] <Guest74945> does anyone here understand how to fix the "unable to install vmmon module"" error in ubuntu 10.04 x64
[01:50] <Name141> edbian: I'm thinking I might as well install Ubuntu since I have the ubuntu disk.
[01:50] <ZykoticK9> Name141, check out lubuntu if you want a light weight *buntu.  Xfce isn't mush lighter then Gnome.
[01:51] <KGF2009> wst: Then I'm not sure how to help. What are you connected to now?
[01:51] <Name141> ZykoticK9: is that an 'offical' dist ?
[01:51] <Guest74945> does anyone here understand how to fix the "unable to install vmmon module"" error in ubuntu 10.04 x64
[01:51] <bazhang> !repeat | Guest74945
[01:51] <RondoRaven> KGF2009: yes but attempts to alter VGA monitor resolution do not stick, res does not change
[01:51] <ZykoticK9> Name141, no, not yet - it lacks some "tools" to get "official" status
[01:52] <Guest74945> ok....thx
[01:52] <Name141> ZykoticK9: Ok.  But will I be able to upgrade distros and use ubuntu's repos and stuff without formatting when a new LTS comes out?
[01:52] <ZykoticK9> Name141, you might be interested in http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_desktop_vitals&num=1
[01:52] <wst> KGF2009 i-m connected to eth1 but i want to connect on eth0
[01:52] <elijah> edbian: I am getting a permission denied error
[01:52] <wst> to change it
[01:52] <KGF2009> wst: If eth1 is working fine, why change it?
[01:52] <edbian> elijah, user@host is correct?
[01:53] <KGF2009> wst: You can't connect to eth0 is no connection is bound there.
[01:53] <ZykoticK9> Name141, i don't personally upgrade distros every - i always fresh install, so i'm not the right person to ask
[01:53] <elijah> edbian: Yeah but I think the path was wrong so it may have been going to a non-existent or taken acct.
[01:54] <edbian> elijah, Likely.  lemme see the command again?
[01:54] <edbian> elijah, Usually it'll say though "path does not exist on host" or something like that.
[01:56] <RondoRaven> KGF2009: using default driver and Monitor Settings allows me to turn them off and on but res change does not actually happen unless I change to resolution supported by the laptop screen... 1024x768 or 800x600...
[01:56] <elijah> edbian: K, it is working now, but it says stdin: is not a tty skipping directory /foo
[01:57] <edbian> elijah, Do you have a /foo folder?  Do you have /foo in the rsync command?
[01:57] <Sivik> upon conenction of ftp with vsftpd with a new user, i get an error about lo: disabled privacy extensions
[01:58] <elijah> edbian: yeah, all folders exist
[01:58] <edbian> elijah, Then IDK.  Probably you made a syntax error
[01:59] <c1rcuit> how can i lock my cd drive so that it doesnt open
[01:59] <alkisg> Lucid installations within virtualbox have mouse integration out of the box, but they don't have virtualbox-ose-guest-utils installed... Anyone knows which package offers mouse integration?
[01:59] <elijah> edbian: rsync -e ssh --exclude=/home/elisclou/test.com/music elisclou@server.com:/home/elisclou/test.com /home/elijah/Desktop
[01:59] <elijah> edbian: That is exactly what I ran with the exception of the "server" and "test"x2 replacements
[01:59] <edbian> elijah, Mmm, I don't see anything wrong. ?  test\.com perhaps?
[02:00] <elijah> edbian: I will try with something without the .
[02:00] <edbian> elijah, It's probably the .
[02:00] <sditq> hi
[02:00] <sditq> hi there
[02:00] <edbian> sditq, hello
[02:01] <sditq> how di?
[02:01] <elijah> edbian: No, same thing
[02:01] <slooksterpsv> how di to you too lol
[02:01] <c1rcuit> guys thought question here
[02:01] <edbian> elijah, IDK, I don't see an error
[02:01] <c1rcuit> if i flushed a dimebag down my toilet
[02:01] <sditq> how come?
[02:01] <c1rcuit> would it take
[02:01] <c1rcuit> or would it back up
[02:01] <c1rcuit> i mean dimebags are fairly small
[02:01] <FloodBot1> c1rcuit: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:02] <ZykoticK9> alkisg, you might want to try virtualbox-ose-guest-x11 but i'm not quite sure what you're asking...
[02:02] <sditq> sorry guys am ensi
[02:02] <slooksterpsv> hi MattTheComputerG
[02:02] <sditq> am a new comer
[02:03] <sditq> elijah, are you a moslem?
[02:03] <ZykoticK9> !ot | c1rcuit
[02:03] <alkisg> ZykoticK9: If you install Lucid to virtualbox, you get mouse integration without installing virtualbox-ose-guest-x11. I'm looking for how this is possible.
[02:03] <sditq> so many things make me confused
[02:03] <elijah> edbian: I am opening a ticket with my webhost
[02:03] <sditq> am a new guy
[02:04] <ZykoticK9> alkisg, i've never experienced that using Lucid host & guests?
[02:04] <sditq> pardon me
[02:04] <alkisg> ZykoticK9: I've just tried it, mouse integration even works with the Lucid live cd.
[02:04] <alkisg> (as a guest)
[02:04] <ZykoticK9> alkisg, what host os are you using?
[02:04] <alkisg> ZykoticK9: Lucid again
[02:04] <sditq> i use sabili
[02:05] <bp0> are application versions frozen with ubuntu versions?
[02:05] <bp0> for instance, will there ever be xchat 2.8.8 or GIMP 2.6.10 in ubuntu 10.04?
[02:05] <ZykoticK9> bp0, package versions are NOT updated during an ubuntu version.  it's not a rolling release at all.
[02:05] <bp0> that isnt some ppa
[02:05] <Daekdroom> bp0, no
[02:05] <bp0> what is LTS then?
[02:05] <Daekdroom> bp0, sometimes they may get to backports..
[02:05] <ZykoticK9> !lts | bp0
[02:06] <Daekdroom> LTS means it'll get security updates.
[02:06] <bp0> but not application updates?
[02:06] <Daekdroom> Precisely
[02:06] <slooksterpsv> whats with the ! (not symbol is how I read it)
[02:06] <bp0> why aren't applications always in their own independent repos then?
[02:06] <maco> slooksterpsv: bot commands
[02:06] <ZykoticK9> slooksterpsv, it calls the bot, ubottu
[02:06] <bp0> why do they have to be frozen with ubuntu releases
[02:06] <maco> bp0: stability
[02:07] <matt531320> is anybody here having problems with slow wifi in lucid?
[02:07] <Daekdroom> bp0, it's much harder to keep the whole system working alright if you keep updating
[02:07] <icarus-c> bp0, independent repo for EACH app?! there are like tens of thousands
[02:07] <slooksterpsv> oh ok, I was like huh The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (not lucid) lol
[02:07] <ZykoticK9> bp0, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[02:07] <edbian> bp0, There are other distros that work that way.
[02:07] <bp0> but applications don't release updates to their old versions
[02:07] <bp0> they just release new versions
[02:07] <slooksterpsv> matt531320 - nope
[02:07] <c1rcuit> clear
[02:07] <icarus-c> bp0, if you want that, you want a rolling release distro
[02:07] <maco> bp0: not true for all upstreams
[02:07] <bp0> so if there is a major flaw, it just wont be fixed?
[02:07] <rww> !sru
[02:07] <qcjn2> hi, i ve got problem, with a network printer. It works from computer <IP_ADDRESS> that is distant, but not from computer <IP_ADDRESS> (this is the computer where the computer the printer is plugged)
[02:08] <maco> bp0: many maintain older versions, and we cherry pick patches to fix issues
[02:08] <jrib> bp0: the security part is cherry-picked
[02:08] <icarus-c> bp0, ubuntu does backport major bug fixes/security fix to old version
[02:08] <bp0> it seems completely artificial to freeze applications with the os release
[02:08] <qcjn2> when i restart the server computer, i have to restart cupsys
[02:08] <slooksterpsv> is this info in a wiki somewhere, cause there's some questions I've had in regards to this (what bp0 is asking)
[02:08] <Daekdroom> bp0, most distributions do that. I don't get you.
[02:09] <maco> slooksterpsv: yes, see the wiki page ubottu just linked....
[02:09] <bp0> well, that is my point about the independent repos, why do applicaitons havbe to be distributed as part of ubuntu
[02:09] <bp0> why does ubuntu have to do anything at all
[02:09] <edbian> bp0, That's what many distros do.  If you were on the daily build of every app the distro would be a complete nightmare.
[02:09] <slooksterpsv> maco oh ok thank you =D
[02:09] <icarus-c> bp0, hence, you may find an security fix in foo-2.6.10   that is backported to ubuntu's foo-2.6.8
[02:09] <ZykoticK9> bp0, this isn't the place to "debate" issues, time-based release system is how Ubuntu does it (which is sorta "end-of-story" on the matter ;)
[02:09] <maco> bp0: because trusting random third parties is how you get pwned?
[02:09] <bp0> let the application devs release their own
[02:09] <slooksterpsv> what's a good rolling distrobution then thats ubuntu based?
[02:09] <rww> there isn't one
[02:09] <maco> slooksterpsv: there arent any ubuntu-based rolling distros
[02:09] <icarus-c> bp0, look. what you are thinking is  Rolling release model
[02:09] <Daekdroom> No rolling release distribution is based on ubuntu
[02:09] <edbian> slooksterpsv, There is no such thing.
[02:09] <maco> slooksterpsv: debian unstable is rolling and uses debs, but as the name impllies...
[02:10] <qcjn2> and can't see localhost:631  <-- connexion error
[02:10] <edbian> slooksterpsv, but Ubuntu is based on Debian.  So that is probably a pretty good answer ^^
[02:10] <gartral> slooksterpsv: there are no debian-based rolling distros, if you like the idea of a rolling distro, look into sabayon
[02:10] <trevor> If I have a makefile and I export a variable, then call a shell script is there which alters that variable how can I get the value passed back from the shell script to the makefile
[02:10] <bp0> icarus-c, i'm thinking Windows or Mac OS model where the applications are independent from the OS, and you can run newer versions on old OS versions
[02:10] <x0rs> anyone know where the gnomenu config file is?
[02:10] <bazhang> !ot | bp0
[02:10] <x0rs> I want to completely uninstall it and all it's old settings
[02:10] <slooksterpsv> edbian gartral maco - what's a linux distro that is rolling release model?
[02:10] <elijah> edbian: Would using the scp method still work?
[02:10] <maco> bp0: and look how well windows is doing on the malware front...
[02:10] <edbian> slooksterpsv, arch
[02:10] <bazhang> bp0, please take this elsewhere
[02:10] <acu> what is the best book on Network Administration in Enterprise ?
[02:10] <gartral> slooksterpsv: SABAYON
[02:10] <maco> slooksterpsv: debian unstable, arch, gentoo, slackware...
[02:10] <edbian> elijah, scp works if you have ssh access.
[02:11] <icarus-c> bp0, some rolling release distro are gentoo, arch linux
[02:11] <slooksterpsv> edbian, really arch is? ok.... did not know that - sabayon is neat
[02:11] <bp0> elsewhere where?
[02:11] <edbian> slooksterpsv, yeah but this is offtopic
[02:11] <bp0> what, this is the channel to talk about ubuntu?
[02:11] <elijah> edbian: I do, but I want to exclude a folder, tim said earlier that this may work "scp -r `ls some_directory | grep -v unwanted_directory` "
[02:11] <bazhang> bp0, #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:11] <edbian> elijah, IDK
[02:11] <bp0> ... ubuntu is the topic
[02:11] <maco> bp0: its the channel for ubuntu *tech support*
[02:11] <slooksterpsv> edbian - oh well, just had a question regarding it in regards to the discussion we've had on ubuntu
[02:11] <gartral> maco: debian-unstable is not concidered a real rolling distro, as the primary starting bases are named and code-locked
[02:11] <ZykoticK9> !hi | bp0
[02:11] <bazhang> bp0, not debate finer points of release models
[02:11] <edbian> elijah, Looks like that would work
[02:11] <maco> bp0: you've left the realm of tech support
[02:11] <modulexploited> i tried compiling an application and got an error with jvm http://pastebin.com/3a7kDhBN
[02:11] <icarus-c> bp0, yea app are independent from the OS on WIndows/Mac OS X,  but ubuntu build the OS & the app as a whole
[02:12] <bazhang> icarus-c, please lets get back on topic
[02:12] <bp0> well anyway, you end up with all these PPAs for things so you can run fixed apps on your 10.04
[02:12] <bp0> thats not better
[02:12] <bazhang> bp0, wrong channel for it
[02:12] <maco> bp0: if you know of patches for existing bugs, please link to them in the bug reports and subscribe the sponsors too
[02:12] <edbian> bp0, If you don't like the packages / version that Ubuntu selects than it really isn't a good distro for you.
[02:12] <maco> *team
[02:12] <icarus-c> bp0, as said earlier, fixes are usually backported. but feature update are not
[02:13] <bp0> edbian, its not about selection, the new versions didnt exist when 10.04 was released... now they do, abut they can never be updated
[02:13] <elijah> What is the command to list all drives and their available capacities again?
[02:13] <bp0> because there is an artificial link between os releases and app releases
[02:13] <edbian> bp0, They will be updated in the next version.
[02:13] <maco> elijah: df -h
[02:13] <ZykoticK9> elijah, "sudo fdisk -l" or "mount"
[02:13] <gartral> icarus-c: the ONLY thing i dont agree with that philosphy on is games, games are updaed, and servers wont accept connections from older clients, and that causes mass breakage all too quikly
[02:13] <edbian> bp0, This is offtopic.  Unless you don't get how it works.  This channel isn't for debating if Ubuntu is making all the right choices.
[02:14] <maco> gartral: and that is SRUable, aiui
[02:14] <elijah> maco: thx
[02:14] <elijah> df
[02:14] <unkmar> jrib: It is not important now.  I'm ready for bed. And since the simple fix is to overlay install. (sounds like a windows solution) >:(  I will probably will replace it with Debian.
[02:14] <jrib> unkmar: k
[02:14] <edbian> unkmar, Debian FTW
[02:15] <Sivik> if i add a drive to a already created directory with information in said directory, will it just add space or over take it?
[02:16] <jrib> Sivik: what do you mean by "add a drive to a already created directory"?
[02:16] <edbian> Sivik, do you mean mounting a drive in that folder?
[02:16] <Sivik> yes, sorry
[02:16] <ZykoticK9> Sivik, if you mount something to a directory with content, the content is just "hidden" it's still there if you unmount
[02:16] <Sivik> alright
[02:16] <Sivik> as long as the files will still be there, i don't care
[02:16] <Sivik> thats what I was thinking.  just wanted to verify
[02:16] <unkmar> jrib: I get a kernel panic, it s likely because of missmatch files due to the failed upgrade. so an overlay install makes most sense.  So I might as well get closer to the trunk rather than further on the branch like that friend of mine that thinks Mint linux is a good idea.  He would probably love DreamLinux.
[02:17] <jrib> unkmar: k, I don't really care what your plans are.   But if you have some sort of support question, just ask it
[02:18] <zomgwtfbbq> ? DCC CHAT zomgwtfbbqzomgwtfbbq 0 0 0
[02:18] <unkmar> jrib: originally I did, and got big time ignored.   http://pastebin.com/vLmGPxk6
[02:18] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[02:19] <jrib> unkmar: if people don't know the answer, you won't get a response.  They aren't ignoring you purposefully
[02:19] <raygalinato> Hi, could someone just clarify something for me? I just want to know whether the driver installed for my nVidia card from Hardware Drivers is the "nouveau" driver or not.
[02:20] <slooksterpsv> ... ok I have a question now, I don't know if it would be offtopic or not, as it's related to Linux Distros in general
[02:20] <edbian> raygalinato, lsmod | grep nouveau    will show if the nouveau driver is being used on your system.
[02:20] <Sivik> raygalinato, what card?
[02:20] <dean22> i cannot connect wirelessly  to my router.. if my laptop  is on battery, wireless  energy saving mode.. any way to resolve it
[02:20] <icarus-c> raygalinato, you could view /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:20] <deepu> deepu
[02:20] <bazhang> slooksterpsv, try ##linux if its not directly ubuntu support
[02:20] <edbian> slooksterpsv, If it's off topic you can pm me
[02:21] <elijah> edbian: My host says "The "stdin: is not a tty" message is a normal error for rsync to produce as it is not an interactive shell. You can ignore this message."
[02:21] <edbian> elijah, Then you're all set?
[02:21] <elijah> edbian: But the thing is that it doesn't copy anything to my destination
[02:21] <edbian> elijah, You know more than I do about the problem at this point.
[02:22] <alkisg> ZykoticK9: found it, it's the "Enable absolute pointing device" setting on the oracle virtualbox. It emulates a tablet, that's why mouse integration is working out of the box.
[02:23] <mamece2> anybody here? i need some to talk about ubuntu
[02:23] <unkmar> mamece2: I'm not here.
[02:23] <AnthonyFer12> hi.. can somebody guide me on how to install the first application under this link: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/NetworkManager/0.8/
[02:23] <raygalinato> Thank you, edbian, Sivik, icarus-c. I have my answer. :)
[02:23] <ZykoticK9> alkisg, "interesting" i've never even heard of that option before.  thanks, not sure if i'll be using it - but good to know :)
[02:23] <mamece2> unkmar, do u use ubuntu?
[02:23] <AnthonyFer12> it's giving me hell
[02:23] <unkmar> mamece2: I did until it died today.
[02:24] <mamece2> unkmar, y u said that?
[02:24] <unkmar> mamece2: still do on my old server.
[02:24] <_multipass_> hey guys, im having trouble installing ubuntu on a raid 0 with windows already on it, anyone help ?
[02:24] <mamece2> unkmar, so uu pc died today?
[02:24] <unkmar> mamece2: the Ubuntu install on my desktop died.
[02:25] <mamece2> unkmar, how much time have u been using it?
[02:25] <unkmar> The server is 6.06 so, um.. 4 years?
[02:26] <anotherjoke> That's a lot of users
[02:26] <slooksterpsv> anotherjoke, but only about 2% of them talk lol
[02:26] <mamece2> would you personally recommend ubuntu over windows vista?
[02:26] <slooksterpsv> mamece2 - I do
[02:26] <edbian> mamece2, yes!  But why ask that in an Ubuntu channel ? :)
[02:26] <I_want_ely> mamece2, so do i
[02:26] <bazhang> mamece2, did you have an actual support question?
[02:27] <I_want_ely> and yeah, what edbian said lol
[02:27] <mamece2> what about security issues? like virus or another individual gettin in my files?
[02:27] <bazhang> !virus > mamece2
[02:27] <unkmar> mamece2: lol. Um, I suggest almost anything over windows. But that is rather price choosing decision on my part.  Along with amount of support available.
[02:27] <slooksterpsv> what does !virus > mamece2
[02:27] <slooksterpsv> mean
[02:27] <edbian> mamece2, Basically not an issue for linux.  It is designed differently and is therefore more secure.  Plus it has the added bonus of being a portion small market share and therefore a lousy target for attackers.
[02:27] <mamece2> sorry for the virus question, im not a troll
[02:28] <edbian> slooksterpsv, It tells the bot to talk directly to mamece2
[02:28] <bazhang> it directs the factoid to him slooksterpsv
[02:28] <ZykoticK9> !virus > slooksterpsv it sends a private bot message
[02:28] <unkmar> mamece2: don't get me wrong, their is plenty of windows support. And plenty of windows viruses, and plenty of people to pay.
[02:28] <edbian> mamece2, No worries.  Completely valid question
[02:28] <bazhang> mamece2, what version of ubuntu are you using
[02:28] <mamece2> i installed 10.04 UNE
[02:28] <slooksterpsv> sorry, still new to IRC trying to figure how what you guys do in the IRC chat and all that, besides the support questions
[02:28] <bazhang> mamece2, okay, any issues? please have a read of the manual
[02:28] <bazhang> !manual | mamece2
[02:28] <mamece2> but i find the OS very annoying, i want a desktop one, not childish tab. ppq told me how to change to desktop version
[02:28] <ehcah> If I have 3 computers that are identical. Is clonezilla the best program to you in order to create an image? That will speed up getting the other 2 ready?
[02:29] <AnthonyFer12> does anybody know how to install the latest version of network manager 0.8.1?
[02:29] <ehcah> Or is more time consuming then it's worth?
[02:29] <unkmar> slooksterpsv: depends on the channel.  this is a support channel. so they do support questions.
[02:29] <slooksterpsv> ok when I have high disk activity applications on my computer freeze up
[02:29] <slooksterpsv> this has been bugging me for a while, especially during vm installs I feel like I can't do anything else without having the system hang for a bit
[02:29] <_multipass_> hey guys, im having trouble installing ubuntu on a raid 0 hard drive... it does not show up in the install, is there anything i can do?
[02:29] <edbian> mamece2, Linux is not childish.
[02:29] <Yani> hey folks, I don't suppose someone could help me out with this. I am trying to get Dwarf Fortress to work on 10.04, but it gives me the following error
[02:29] <Yani> ./libs/Dwarf_Fortress: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_ttf-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:30] <unkmar> slooksterpsv: in other channels people tend to idle.  Think of it as having a big room of thousands of people that don't know each other, aren't drinking and are shy.  You get lots of silence.  Called, idling.
[02:30] <anotherjoke> I run Ubuntu
[02:30] <ZykoticK9> ehcah, clonezilla is really powerful, and very handy for "imaging" systems, but if you want something easier see the !clone factoid and just install on each
[02:30] <KB1JWQ> anotherjoke: Congrats.
[02:30] <unkmar> what is UNE?
[02:30] <ehcah> !clone
[02:30] <bazhang> !une > unkmar
[02:30] <ZykoticK9> unkmar, Ubuntu Netbook Edition (formerly Remix)
[02:30] <mamece2> ubuntu netbook edition, i recomment it only to small laptops
[02:30] <slooksterpsv> !une > slooksterpsv
[02:31] <mamece2> !une>mamece2
[02:31] <unkmar> oh, ugh, netbook, I hate that LOCKED desktop.
[02:31] <IdleOne> !msgthebot
[02:31] <ZykoticK9> slooksterpsv, if you want to see a factoid you can use "/msg UBOTTU !foo" to get it privatly
[02:31] <slooksterpsv> ok anyone know why high disk activity freezes my apps?
[02:31] <ehcah> Zykotick9: thank you.
[02:31] <CyL> Evening folks... my computer can't resume from hibernation, although it seems to sucessfully enter the hibernation state.. I believe this is related to the fact I'm using a swapfile instead of a swap partition... any advice?
[02:31] <mamece2> i am fixing itunes, then i will go to ubuntu again
[02:32] <edbian> slooksterpsv, Because Ubuntu is not the most stable Linux distro ;)
[02:32] <unkmar> slooksterpsv: they can't get drive time?
[02:32] <ZykoticK9> edbian, that is not a helpful or contructive statement
[02:32] <mamece2> i almost cried blood trying to make amarok play mp3 :s
[02:32] <slooksterpsv> apps like pidgin do it, well any app really, even terminal; :( freezes
[02:32] <mamece2> im still not able to scrobble songs played on amarok
[02:33] <elijah> edbian: Ok, host replied back with this command "rsync -a -v -z --progress --delete -e ssh --exclude=/home/elisclou/test.com/music elijah@test.com:/home/elisclou/test.com /home/elijah/Desktop/backup" and it worked!  Minus the --exclude switch but gettin' real close!
[02:34] <edbian> elijah, Alright then! :D
[02:34] <slooksterpsv> no one has any sort of answer or that? ok :(... searching forums then
[02:34] <aki_> how do i move the buttons to the right
[02:34] <bazhang> !controls | aki_
[02:34] <aemaeth> what buttons?
[02:34] <aki_> like close
[02:34] <sjsweng> hello world
[02:34] <aki_> minimize
[02:34] <sjsweng> first time on irc in a while !
[02:34] <sjsweng> love this :)
[02:35] <aemaeth> hello sjsweng
[02:35] <mamece2> !amarok>mamece2
[02:35] <aemaeth> sjsweng: i'm in irssi, how about you?
[02:35] <mamece2> nice bot
[02:35] <sjsweng> I'm in sf, sitting at a cafe
[02:35] <mamece2> i have soooo much to read
[02:35] <unkmar> aemaeth: irssi is great along with screen.
[02:35] <aemaeth> sf like san francisco?
[02:35] <sjsweng> yup
[02:35] <Yani> Anyone mind helping me get Dwarf Fort working on ubuntu 10.04?
[02:35] <KB1JWQ> !ot
[02:35] <aemaeth> well, i meant the chat program im in
[02:36] <aemaeth> i'm in vista
[02:36] <sjsweng> oh :) whoops, I'm using Colloquy on OSX
[02:36] <aemaeth> the town, not the OS
[02:36] <ZykoticK9> aemaeth, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[02:36] <aemaeth> i'm helping sjsweng
[02:36] <unkmar> aemaeth: I know.  I use irssi inside screen via remote to my server.
[02:37] <aemaeth> unkmar: i'm using something called byobu, it has several screens
[02:37] <sjsweng> does anyone know of a good thunderbird  / apache plugin for irc chat?
[02:38] <aemaeth> you know how freebsd has that mouse daemon?  is there anything like that for gnu/linux?  It would be super awesome
[02:38] <Jordan_U> aemaeth: Byobu is a set of scripts / profiles for the program "screen".
[02:38] <sjsweng> I've been looking to consolidate my apps, so that when I sign into mail, it should sign me into irc / rooms at the same time
[02:38] <Yani> because it keeps giving me the error: ./libs/Dwarf_Fortress: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_ttf-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:38] <Yani> and I am not at all sure what to do with it
[02:39] <ZykoticK9> Yani, try installing libsdl-ttf2.0-0
[02:39] <mamece2> im so glad this chat exits. forums are not so effective for the clearing of doubts
[02:40] <Yani> thanks
[02:40] <goddard> Flash still crashes with Google chrome
[02:40] <bazhang> mamece2, please be sure to read the manual
[02:40] <Gnea> goddard: works fine here. are you on 64bit?
[02:40] <goddard> yeah
[02:40] <Gnea> using the new 64bit flash?
[02:41] <goddard> yes
[02:41] <Gnea> tried on FF?
[02:41] <goddard> new?
[02:41] <goddard> how new?
[02:41] <ZykoticK9> goddard, how did you install flash?
[02:41] <Gnea> latest in the repo
[02:41] <goddard> manually
[02:41] <_multipass_> hey guys, im having trouble installing ubuntu on a raid 0 hard drive... it does not show up in the install, is there anything i can do?
[02:41] <ZykoticK9> Gnea, is 64bit flash in repo?
[02:41] <goddard> from adobe website
[02:41] <Gnea> ZykoticK9: I was referring to FF
[02:41] <Yani> ZykoticK9, thanks a lot, that did the trick
[02:42] <ZykoticK9> Yani, nice.
[02:42] <ZykoticK9> Gnea, ahh gotcha
[02:42] <sport_> Hi everyone.  I just installed Ubuntu Server as a VM.  Does anyone know how I can adjust the screen resolution?  The font too large
[02:42] <Yani> I think I was using the wrong lib
[02:42] <Gnea> sport_: #ubuntu-server might know how
[02:42] <sport_> thanks, I'' check it out
[02:43] <goddard> No fix for this?
[02:44] <jfeole> sport_  which software are u using? Virtulabox?
[02:45] <goddard> other browsers dont have this problem
[02:45] <MooshiMuushi> Hey Peoples :D
[02:46] <MooshiMuushi> Re-say. Hey Peoples?
[02:46] <ZykoticK9> jfeole, ubuntu server doesn't run an x session, do you know how to change the console resolution or font?
[02:46] <coz_> MooshiMuushi,  hey guy
[02:47] <MooshiMuushi> coz_, Hey :D
[02:47] <goddard> even chromium and google chrome developmental do this
[02:48] <jfeole> ZykoticK9  - u mean the default terminal console?
[02:48] <gartral> maco: what is "SRUable"? don't use acronyms, this is irc, not aim
[02:49] <ZykoticK9> jfeole, well that's what server boots to TTY1 sorta thing - i was only partially interested, if you had a quick answer i would add it too my notes.  the person actually asking has left - so it's all good man ;)  thanks though.
[02:49] <jfeole> ok
[02:49] <gartral> maco: what did you mean by what you highlighted me for?
[02:50] <Gnea> goddard: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1350775
[02:50] <trism> gartral: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates (SRU)
[02:51] <rww> !sru | gartral
[02:51] <goddard> Gnea i think I may of done that already
[02:51] <gartral> trism: my web browsers are borked, dont link me
[02:51] <unkmar> gartral: w3m doesn't work for you?
[02:51] <ZykoticK9> Gnea, that link you sent goddard is the old-64bit flash, from Dec 2009 - NOT current at all
[02:51] <Gnea> goddard: well you mentioned that you installed it directly from adobe's site, that way installs it via ppa, so it might work
[02:51] <gartral> is it really that hard for people to spell out an acronym instead of clicking through bookmarks for a link?
[02:51] <Gnea> it is?
[02:52] <trism> gartral: it says it right in the link
[02:52] <MooshiMuushi> Anyone know how to open a ".sh" file through menu?
[02:52] <gartral> unkmar: if you say my earlier message, all my web browsers give "Bus Error" same with apt.. but stuff like games and irssi work fine
[02:52] <ZykoticK9> Gnea, adobe pulled the old 64bit flash a while ago due to some security issue - it was just re-release a couple weeks ago i believe (i haven't tried it)
[02:53] <goddard> Midori is a small project using Webkit just like Google Chrome and doesn't have any problems
[02:53] <rww> midori doesn't have any problems? you must be more forgiving than me.
[02:53] <goddard> rww what problems have you had?
[02:53] <Gnea> ZykoticK9: funny, https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash
[02:54] <Gnea> ZykoticK9: it was updated 9 days ago.
[02:55] <ZykoticK9> Gnea, then that should be the current one - i was just worried by the date on the forum post - guess the PPA is still up-to-date/current, so it's all good.
[02:55] <Gnea> ZykoticK9: I'm usually not so skeptical as long as it's under a couple years old
[02:56] <ZykoticK9> Gnea, it's just the 64bit flash has been an issue over the last year ;)
[02:56] <Gnea> ZykoticK9: some of the sources.list lines might need to be modified, but most PPA's are upkept pretty well
[02:56] <Gnea> ZykoticK9: oh I know, that's why I figured a direct PPA link would prove helpful
[02:57] <goddard> rww what problems have you had?
[02:58] <jfeole> ZykoticK9 - check this: http://harrison3001.blogspot.com/2009/09/grub-2-graphical-boot-tips-to-set.html
[02:59] <rww> goddard: Randomly refusing to load pages, missing features I needed, various other things. If I remember correctly, it's also one of the ones with poor SSL certificate checking that accepts self-signed certs without prompting. It's been a couple of weeks, and I tested about ten browsers, so...
[02:59] <rww> conclusion: Iceweasel is slow, but feature-wise it's the best thing out there :\
[03:00] <goddard> rww really do you know what its programed in?
[03:00] <ZykoticK9> jfeole, good link - thanks man
[03:00] <rww> goddard: I don't particularly care
[03:00] <xscroll> can someone point me to a wireless USB dongle that ubuntu 10.04 supports automatically with little to no configuration?
[03:00] <goddard> rww whats it built off of
[03:01] <wafiiq> ne
[03:01] <wafiiq> hey
[03:01] <jfeole> Zykotick9 - np..that is a tuff ?
[03:02] <delinquentme> is there a way to kill the startup ubuntu drum ditty?
[03:02] <martin__> anyone has a nvidia ion ethernet MCP79 network card working? I can't get mine to work. The router has issues an IP address, but ubuntu does not bring up the network interface.
[03:02] <martin__> s/issues/issued/
[03:03] <trism> delinquentme: the drums before login can be disabled on System/Administration/Login Screen, the drums after System/Preferences/Startup Applications, disable GNOME Login Sound
[03:03] <|2exx> l
[03:03] <ZykoticK9> jfeole, "that is a tuff"? don't quite understand, ironically those directions are VERY similar to what I used to use for Plymouth resolution - my note at http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/plymouth-resolution
[03:03] <delinquentme> trism, thanks
[03:03] <unkmar> gartral: I don't know what a "Bus error" is.  Miss your stop?
[03:04] <gartral> unkmar: ha.. ha.. no
[03:04] <|2exx> Does anyone know a good streaming music player for ubuntu?
[03:04] <gartral> unkmar: gareth@station:~$ firefox
[03:04] <gartral> Bus error
[03:04] <gartral> gareth@station:~$
[03:05] <xscroll> gartral: try chrome  :P
[03:05] <wafiiq> hiiiiiiiii
[03:06] <jfeole> ZykoticK9 - i mean it not really apparent what/where to make changes..sorta obscure, ya know?
[03:06] <unkmar> |2exx: vlc, mplayer?  define good?
[03:06] <wafiiq_> hi
[03:06] <wafiiq_> heyy
[03:06] <wafiiq_> hey guys
[03:06] <bazhang> wafiiq_, support question?
[03:06] <goddard> correct term is hi men
[03:07] <unkmar> goddard: or is that hymen
[03:07] <|2exx> unkmar: good like a cool media server I can access with thousands of streaming channels?
[03:07] <bazhang> unkmar, thats enough
[03:07] <goddard> hymlic for u
[03:07] <MooshiMuushi> Guys, I have a question.
[03:08] <Russo23> excellent
[03:08] <MooshiMuushi> How d you run a file that has an extension of ".sh" from the application menu.
[03:08] <xscroll> MooshiMuushi: you run it from the terminal
[03:09] <Russo23> feel the force
[03:09] <ZykoticK9> MooshiMuushi, "gnome-terminal -e /path/to/foo.sh"
[03:09] <blippity> does anyone know if ubuntu installation from wubi within windows will install grub?
[03:09] <goddard> rww iceweasel isn't in the repositories?
[03:09] <MooshiMuushi> From the main menu.
[03:09] <unkmar> |2exx: I don't remember which one I saw that had channel selections built into it.  I had been using shoutcast.com.  But stopped for my own personal reasons.
[03:09] <po_lo> vvv
[03:09] <blippity> for that matter is there anything similar to "andlinux" that can run in 64bit
[03:10] <MooshiMuushi> xscroll, Zykotick: From the main menu.
[03:10] <ZykoticK9> MooshiMuushi, make a launch and either use the gnome-terminal -e command or use the "run in terminal" checkbox
[03:10] <ZykoticK9> !tab > MooshiMuushi
[03:11] <MooshiMuushi> Give me a second.
[03:11] <rww> goddard: Iceweasel is Debian's unbranded form of Firefox. If you're on Ubuntu, you can approximately s/Iceweasel/Firefox/.
[03:12] <Jordan_U> blippity: A wubi installation will install grub, but setup to be loaded from ntldr/BCD. Grub does not replace the windows bootloader in the mbr with a wubi install.
[03:12] <jfeole> anyone have a good grub2 tutorial or links??
[03:13] <ZykoticK9> !grub2 > jfeole
[03:13] <blippity> even if wubi install is not full install?
[03:13] <goddard> approximately s/?
[03:13] <Jordan_U> blippity: Could you rephrase the question?
[03:14] <MooshiMuushi> ZykoticK9, Preference --> Main Menu
[03:14] <blippity> wubi installer offers two options: full install w/o dedicated partition, and an install within windows on dedicated windows partition
[03:14] <blippity> following me?
[03:14] <ZykoticK9> goddard the s/ is substitute, so s/foo/too is substitute foo for too
[03:14] <MooshiMuushi> ZykoticK9, From there. I allowed the program to be opened through terminal, but in a flash, it turns off.
[03:15] <goddard> gotcha
[03:16] <blippity> so if i install ubuntu within windows without a dedicated partition being created, would it install grub
[03:16] <ZykoticK9> MooshiMuushi, what does the script do? -- to trouble shoot you might want to uncheck the terminal, and use the "gnome-terminal -e /path..." to see the output/error
[03:16] <unkmar> MooshiMuushi: the add a line or 2 to the script.  the last line could be read.  That will cause a pause.
[03:16] <blippity> i ask because grub hates my hardware
[03:17] <Jordan_U> blippity: Yes, but not in the normal sense. Again, it will *not* replace windows' bootloader so a problem with grub will not prevent windows from booting.
[03:17] <Maluco`> oiesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[03:18] <Maluco`> do Brasil:????
[03:18] <Maluco`> :)
[03:18] <bazhang> !br | Maluco`
[03:18] <Maluco`> valeu
[03:19] <xnixan> Hi, i have ubuntu box as firewall with eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>/24 connected to internal net work and eth1 <IP_ADDRESS>/24 to the internet router i need to allow only 4 hosts to have full access to internal and external connections and the rest of internal network will only be able to access those 4 internal hosts, would you mind telling me what are the rules to be applied?
[03:19] <blippity> if i did the install within windows, how hard would it be to then remove grub cleanly?
[03:20] <blippity> simple fixmbr command?
[03:20] <blippity> or would that not be necessary?
[03:20] <Jordan_U> blippity: fixmbr would not be needed as wubi will not touch the mbr.
[03:20] <MooshiMuushi> Give me a second ZykoticK9 and unkmar :D
[03:21] <blippity> so where does grub happen in the boot process?
[03:22] <Circs> Does anyone here play minecraft alpha in Ubuntu?
[03:23] <MooshiMuushi> Wish...if it was free.
[03:24] <Circs> MooshiMuushi, What about minecraft classic?
[03:25] <rww> blippity: The GRUB setup used in Wubi (the install-from-Windows option) is chained from Windows' bootloader. So the BIOS passes off to Windows, which then passes off to GRUB.
[03:25] <blippity> thanks!
[03:25] <Jordan_U> blippity: Wubi creates a file (I think named g2ldr.img) which ntldr/BCD then chainlaods.
[03:26] <Circs> Well I have a more common question too: I would like to have my Ubuntu desktop hooked up to my surround sound system and I need to have optical audio out to accomplish this. Do I have to replace my motherboard to get this?
[03:26] <blippity> i have an asus g73j. had to do a low level format to remove grub last time, so i'm curious as to grub uninstall afterwards
[03:26] <spur> Circs: no, there are many PCI sound cards availalbe.
[03:26] <rww> blippity: Wubi has an entry in Windows' Add/Remove Programs that should do that. If not, there's a tool called EasyBCD that can remove the entry from Windows' bootloader.
[03:27] <Jordan_U> blippity: It doesn't make sense for removing grub to require a low level format.
[03:27] <Circs> spur, Yes, I've been looking through but many of them seem to have problems with optical output and ubuntu. Feeling a bit lost.
[03:27] <blippity> apparently there is a known hardware issues with asus machines that causes issues with grub
[03:27] <MooshiMuushi> Circs, Classic? Never tried.
[03:27] <blippity> or so i have been told
[03:27] <spur> rww: That is WindowsXP.  Windows 7 has Programs and Features.
[03:27] <Circs> MooshiMuushi, It meets your free requirement
[03:28] <Circs> MooshiMuushi, It is Java based it seems and I was wondering how it runs. I *think* you can play it in browser
[03:29] <MooshiMuushi> Circs, I'm quite sure you can.
[03:29] <Bridge|A> sup all
[03:29] <mamece2> !noob>mamece2
[03:30] <Circs> MooshiMuushi, I became quite addicted to it at my friend's house and would most certainly not like to go MS to get a game.
[03:31] <Emanon-iPhone> Ok on issuance of any apt get command I get "segmentation faulty tree" how do I fix this?
[03:31] <MooshiMuushi> Circs, Go to MS? You can buy it and download it.
[03:31] <titan-ark> hi does anyone have an idea of using lucid ona  VBox? I needed some help here
[03:32] <Circs> MooshiMuushi, I think I stated that poorly. I would not like to have to go spend money on Windows to be able to play the game
[03:32] <bazhang> MooshiMuushi, Circs please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:32] <titan-ark> full screen giving me trouble
[03:32] <Circs> bazhang, Not chatting inquiring about compatibility.
[03:32] <Jordan_U> titan-ark: What problem are you having?
[03:32] <MooshiMuushi> bazhang, ahh caught again...
[03:32] <MooshiMuushi> :D
[03:32] <bazhang> Circs, well beyond that now
[03:32] <Gnea> Circs: tried wine or cedega?
[03:32] <Emanon-iPhone> Anyone? Im on my iPhone at a clients house so any quick help would be good
[03:33] <rww> It's Java-based. You shouldn't need WINE or Cedega...
[03:33] <Gnea> Emanon-iPhone: have you checked the heat of the hardware in the case?
[03:33] <titan-ark> Jordan_U: I installed it and the guest additions, but in full screen mode, the lower part of the screen is not visible
[03:33] <Gnea> rww: oh, missed that part. yeah, not sure why anyone would need windows for it...
[03:34] <titan-ark> Jordan_U: is it cos am using a 14" notebook? the screen is too small?
[03:34] <spur> titan-ark: know it ain't.  the resolution is too low.
[03:34] <titan-ark> spur: ah okay, thx... lemme try pumping it up
[03:35] <Circs> rww, Basically I was looking for someone who has actually run at least the free version in Linux because on forums and such I only see problems people have had. I'm wondering if it just works well enough people don't mention it or if just very few people have played it in Linux.
[03:35] <spur> inches are irrelavent.  It is pixels by pixels that is important.
[03:35] <Emanon-iPhone> Gnea: well It doesn't do it except on an apt command everything else works fine
[03:36] <Gnea> Emanon-iPhone: if time is so short, why not check it?
[03:36] <spur> Emanon-iPhone: have you tested apt-cache?
[03:36] <titan-ark> spur: hmmm true :P n00b me
[03:36] <Gnea> Emanon-iPhone: hm, maybe that isn't it...
[03:36] <Circs> rww, I would try it but my netbook basically dies when I give it a shot and no other hardware is in running shape right now.
[03:36] <Gnea> Emanon-iPhone: are there any .bin files in /var/cache/apt/archives/ ?
[03:37] <Emanon-iPhone> Spur explain please
[03:37] <Jordan_U> Emanon-iPhone: Can you pastebin the exact error message?
[03:37] <Gnea> Emanon-iPhone: if there are any, they should be removed
[03:38] <Gnea> Jordan_U: he's on a phone
[03:38] <spur> Emanon-iPhone: you said apt.  both apt-get and aptitude require root.  apt-cache does not.
[03:38] <spur> Emanon-iPhone: apt-cache search gnome
[03:38] <Emanon-iPhone> "segmentation fault tree... 0%"
[03:38] <Gnea> Emanon-iPhone: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19563
[03:39] <titan-ark> spur: tried the next higher (and the max supported) resolution and I get the bottom part entirely, but now I am missing the right edge! :(
[03:39] <spur> Gnea: iphone, one thing at a time.  if he goes there.  Poof! no more irc.
[03:40] <Emanon-iPhone> Thanks g
[03:40] <Gnea> spur: I thought the iphone could multitask
[03:40] <spur> titan-ark: and you had the right edge before the changes?
[03:40] <Emanon-iPhone> Thanks all bye now
[03:40] <titan-ark> spur: yes
[03:41] <spur> titan-ark: and this is a game?  sounds like it wants a specific ratio.  3:4 or 16:9 or 16:10
[03:41]  * Jordan_U was just about to suggest a possible solution for Emanon-iPhone's problem :(
[03:41] <titan-ark> spur: no, not a game. its my vbox screen for my ubuntu boot
[03:43] <martin___> I keep getting timeout on eth1 DHCP (the router does not filter on mac addresses - and two other computers have network access right now through the router)
[03:44] <titan-ark> spur: so basically, on a 1152*864 resolution i get the right side fully but lose the bottom part and in the 1360*768 I lose the right part but get the bottom part
[03:44] <Gnea> Jordan_U: did you check that url i posted?
[03:44] <spur> titan-ark: ok, I think the video drivers for the vbox video card are restricted to certain resolutions.  They may all be of the 3:4 category.  such as 800x600, 640x480 and 1024x768 variety.
[03:44] <spur> titan-ark: I suspect yoru laptop is of the 16:9 or 16:10 variety.
[03:45] <titan-ark> spur: yup you nailed it
[03:45] <Jordan_U> Gnea: I hadn't, but I have now. Good to know :)
[03:45] <titan-ark> spur: so i guess i have to live with it
[03:45] <titan-ark> ?
[03:45] <twain> hi
[03:45] <sid513> hi
[03:46] <twain> i need help solve with verzion usb760 pls
[03:46] <elijah> I want to move the entire contents of a folder to another folder, I use mv /home/elijah/opt/public_html /var/www/     and it just puts the whole folder inside /www how can I make better?
[03:46] <Gnea> Jordan_U: yeah, I thought he meant "segmentation fault" at first, but it's actually different
[03:46] <spur> titan-ark: yeah, kinda looks that way until they develop virtual video drivers of the HD variety.
[03:46] <Kendalja> hello
[03:46] <albert_> someone can help me
[03:46] <twain> anyone know how solve with verzion wireless usb760??
[03:46] <Kendalja> how do I add direcotys with spaces to my path
[03:46] <Kendalja> directories
[03:46] <Kendalja> like iTunes Medai
[03:47] <Kendalja> iTunes Media
[03:47] <albert_> someone can help me
[03:47] <Kendalja> since there is a space it says invalid dir
[03:47] <spur> Kendalja: mkdir "this folder"
[03:47] <bazhang> albert_, ask a question
[03:47] <spur> Kendalja: OR  mkdir another\ folder
[03:47] <Kendalja> I dont want to make a dir
[03:47] <Kendalja> I just want to know how to access it if it has a space
[03:47] <albert_> hellow started using ubuntu, but some friends tell me that debian
[03:47] <titan-ark> spur: hmmmm okay thx. the weird thing is i could not install lucid on the older version of vbox! but karmic worked like a charm and the full screen also dint give me trouble. I had to update to the latest vbox to be able to install lucid
[03:48] <jfeole> elijah: do cp -R current_dir new_dir
[03:48] <rww> Kendalja: put a \ before the space
[03:48] <spur> Kendalja: same differenct. you need to escape it as you add to the path.
[03:48] <bazhang> albert_, debian?
[03:48] <albert_> that debian is a better version that ubuntu
[03:48] <rww> hah
[03:48] <albert_> than ubuntu
[03:48] <elijah> jfeole: That is what I was starting to suspect. Does that do all hidden files too?
[03:48] <bazhang> albert_, thats opinion
[03:48] <rww> !debian
[03:48] <Kendalja> so iTunes/Media
[03:48] <Jordan_U> !best | albert_
[03:48] <Kendalja> ?
[03:48] <bazhang> albert_, you have an ubuntu support question? or wish to take a poll
[03:48] <spur> Kendalja: PATH=$PATH:/mnt/my\ stuff
[03:48] <jfeole> elijah..
[03:48] <jfeole> yes
[03:48] <jfeole> it does
[03:49] <Gnea> albert_: different distributions are better than others for different people, depending on what they need to do
[03:49] <twain> anyone can help me how solve verzion usb 760??
[03:49] <elijah> jfeole: Thanks
[03:49] <twain> for wireless
[03:49] <Jordan_U> spur: He deosn't want to add anything to $PATH
[03:49] <jfeole> np
[03:49] <fengshaun> does anyone know how I can make brightness work with ubuntu on a vaio vgn-fj laptop?
[03:50] <twain> where can i find network support chat?
[03:50] <albert_> ah ok and if i use ubuntu can i do as administrator network the same task than debian
[03:50] <rww> albert_: yes
[03:50] <spur> Kendalja: iTunes\ Media    OR 'iTunes Media'  OR "iTunes Media"
[03:50] <rww> twain: network as in this IRC network, or networking as in networking computers together?
[03:50] <albert_> ah ok, so i choose ubuntu
[03:51] <Leman_Russ> what is the name of the Ubuntu off-topic room, and the Ubuntu 10.10 room?
[03:51] <bazhang> !manual | albert_ have a read
[03:51] <twain> network for computer i got verzion wireless USB 760 but i cannot solve  with it make it work on linux
[03:51] <rww> Leman_Russ: #ubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu+1 respectively
[03:51] <MrDudle> how do i shred a directory
[03:51] <bazhang> Leman_Russ, #ubuntu+1 and #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:51] <Leman_Russ> Thank you
[03:51] <spur> twain: has it been activated?
[03:51] <rww> twain: ##networking, though you probably want ##linux or here.
[03:52] <bazhang> twain, what chipset
[03:52] <spur> twain: is it one of those dual mode devices that needs to be switched from Drive to modem?
[03:52] <twain> spur   i been use usb on windows... for 4 month until i change to linux
[03:52] <albert_> ah ok thank you friend and long live open source!!!!
[03:52] <elijah> jfeole: When I do cp -r /foo/bar .  it copes the enitre folder and not the contents, any tweask?
[03:53] <spur> elijah: cp -r /foo/bar/* .    ???
[03:53] <jfeole> use cp -R
[03:53] <twain> spur  it usb wireless modem  from verzion  you know what i mean?
[03:54] <bazhang> twain, need the chipset
[03:54] <elijah> spur: That worked, thx
[03:54] <jfeole> cp -R /directory/* directory/*
[03:54] <spur> twain: yes, and some models have a dual mode.  Switching between USB drive with drivers and used as modem.
[03:54] <twain> ok bazhang how do i find chipset?    y can check verzion wirless  it usb760 info?
[03:54] <jfeole> cp -R /directory/* /directory/*
[03:54] <spur> twain: others show up as both at the same time.
[03:55] <spur> twain: "lsusb -v" might help you find the chipset.
[03:56] <twain> ok spur where can i find lsusb - v?
[03:56] <spur> twain: you type lsusb -v in a terminal.
[03:56] <twain> got it ,,,  spur let me type now
[03:57] <elijah> jfeole: Yes, thanks!
[03:57]  * spur is glad he didn't suggest dmesg | less
[03:57] <Jordan_U> !language | bawlsIsMyBitch
[03:57] <twain> ok i got list of terminal  how do i send info to you  just copy and paste it?
[03:57] <rww> !pastebin | twain
[03:58] <spur> at least he was wise enough to ask before flooding out.
[03:59] <rww> spur: they wouldn't have been the first person to paste dmesg in here :S
[03:59] <rww> yay for floodbots
[03:59] <Onme> flood bots?
[04:00] <rww> Onme: yup. they sit in here and quiet people who start flooding
[04:00] <rww> amongst lots of other things
[04:00] <Onme> =/
[04:00] <Onme> i hear good things about mint
[04:00] <spur> every noisy channel has at least one.
[04:01] <twain> ok i did paste it  so i got urb address  just put on chat?
[04:01] <martin___> ow... the network manager is able to get the correct DNS entries, but eth1 still won't work...?!
[04:01] <spur> twain: right.  paste the url.
[04:01] <spur> martin___: you looked in /etc/resolve.conf to see that the dns is correct?
[04:02] <martin___> spur: yes
[04:02] <twain> spur i did send to you in privite
[04:02] <slooksterpsv> lol this bot in here is funny
[04:02] <slooksterpsv> !tmi > slooksterpsv
[04:03] <spur> martin___: and it only has an IP and not lots of names?  cause confuse things sometimes.
[04:03] <spur> twain: got it
[04:03] <twain> ok great sorry i just learning on linux
[04:04] <spur> twain has: Bus 003 Device 006: ID 1410:5030 Novatel Wireless
[04:04] <slooksterpsv> !tmi | slooksterpsv
[04:04] <slooksterpsv> sorry everyone
[04:05] <bazhang> slooksterpsv, /msg ubottu please
[04:05] <twain> ok then what? lol
[04:05] <slooksterpsv> I did already just wanted to see how it worked in the IRC chat
[04:05] <bazhang> slooksterpsv, this is not the channel to test
[04:06] <rww> testing here makes people testy
[04:06] <spur> twain: it is a mode switcher, "the key item is to get the usb device to switch from the cdrom mode"
[04:06] <Emanon-iPhone> Ok so now apt commands now work but updates fail because of a broken package that won't uninstall its the python-ubuntuone-storageprotocol
[04:06] <martin___> eth1 DHCP transaction took too long... but there are 3 nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf generated by NetworkManager... I don't get it.
[04:06] <spur> twain: http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=54692
[04:07] <firenx> hey i just installed 10.04 and x is very slow.. ati x1600xt 256mb card.. p4 3.0 it should be a lot quicker.. looks like a graphics issue
[04:07] <spur> martin___: replace everything in /etc/resolv.conf with <IP_ADDRESS>  and try again.
[04:07] <twain> spur  that http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=54692 i did done but it not clear explain to do...
[04:08] <twain> usb device to swtich from the cdrom mode? \
[04:09] <ugliefrog>  where do i find the grid addon for compiz
[04:09] <TiK> its prob in the extra package
[04:09] <TiK> extras
[04:09] <edbian> ugliefrog, I believe it's called scale :)
[04:09] <spur> twain: this should be simplier, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1002262
[04:09] <ugliefrog> edbian, ty ill give that a look
[04:09] <martin___> spur: hummm, /etc/resolv.conf has not changed
[04:10] <martin___> still <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:10] <spur> martin___: the question was where you able to reach a website with that?
[04:11] <Vsg21> ?DCC SEND Start_Server 0 0 0
[04:11] <twain> ok spur  here "1) use usbserial for 1410:6000, done by adding the following line as the file /etc/modprobe.d/usb760
[04:11] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[04:11] <twain> options usbserial vendor=0x1410 product=0x6000"
[04:11] <martin___> spur: connect: Network is unreachable
[04:11] <Emanon-iPhone> Sudo apt-get remove -f returns "dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 25142 package python-ubuntuone-storageprotocol any fixes?
[04:12] <twain> so i need do on termint  "/etc/modprobe.d/usb760
[04:12] <twain> options usbserial vendor=0x1410 product=0x6000"  ??
[04:12] <spur> twain: I think your numbers will be 1410:5030
[04:13] <martin___> don't I need to configure a netmask?
[04:14] <twain> spur ok.. can tell me to do i will do on termet  beacuse this not clear explain how to do on install
[04:14] <spur> martin___: If I remember, you are forcing "dhclient eth1" ?
[04:15] <twain> spur--can you please guide me...baby steps?  I'm lost
[04:15] <Emanon-iPhone> Come on ubuntu you helped me once let's finish this fight
[04:15] <mobasher> i need some help with file permissions ? (http://pastebin.com/Lnew6iay)
[04:15] <spur> twain: I'll teach you.
[04:15] <frankbro> Just a quick question. Is there a way to set a multi-screen setup so that my first screen shows desktop 1, my second shows desktop 2. And if I ctrl+alt+arrow right, it set first screen to desktop 2 and second screen to desktop 3 ?Instead of having larger desktops.
[04:15] <edbian> twain, We're here to help!
[04:15] <RickX> Next step in install... Boot from MBR is disabled, isn't booting from the MBR mol the default?
[04:15] <twain> okay.  I'm ready.
[04:16] <spur> twain: look at your pastebin.  See the lines that state Novatel Wireless?  You will see numbers near that in the following form. 1410:5030
[04:16] <spur> twain: at another spot a little lower you will see it state, id_Vendor   0x1410    and id_Product 0x5030
[04:17] <mobasher> i need some help with file permissions ? (Corrent Pastebin:::: http://pastebin.com/kNw6bZyM)
[04:17] <Izinucs> Emanon-iPhone: you might try sudo apt-get install -f .. to see if that fixes dpkg first then try your command again.. after that I'm lost
[04:17] <spur> Izinucs: Emanon-iPhone is likely still having apt issues.
[04:18] <Izinucs> spur: didn't know if he tried the fix I mentioned..
[04:18] <sync3times> mobasher, you can use the chgrp command to change group ownership
[04:18] <spur> twain: These things speak of a certain Maker and model number.
[04:18] <twain> Okay.  I see them
[04:18] <martin___> mobasher: you want to change the group from root to adm? use chgrp
[04:18] <Daniel> mobasher: do you wanna activate root user?
[04:18] <mobasher> sync3times=}} k thanks :)
[04:18] <mobasher> just messed up the permissions for the logs for apache and it was not starting up...
[04:19] <spur> twain: that happens to be your Wireless thingy.  I googled that info to get those pages.
[04:19] <spur> twain: Anywhere you see number in that form on those pages, you will replace them with YOUR numbers.
[04:19] <martin___> spur: I don't know if I'm specifically forcing dhclient eth1... I am used to gentoo, but not ubuntu
[04:19] <spur> twain: the page metions opening or creating a file in a certain location and tells you exactly what to put in it.
[04:20] <martin___> spur: I use "service network-manager restart"
[04:21] <spur> martin___: ok, so, um... you have dhcp server/router?  and this machine is wired to that router and it does not appear to be magically giving you an IP address like it should?
[04:21] <twain> number from Verizon, correct?
[04:21] <martin___> spur: correct.
[04:21] <twain> Okay
[04:21] <spur> twain: no.  The numbers from the lsusb -v listing.
[04:22] <twain> Oh...from?
[04:22] <martin___> spur: and I have 2 gentoo machines right now with dhcp and network access through this router. So I know the router works.
[04:22] <spur> twain: the instructions speak of models like yours.  maybe a 720 instead of a 760.
[04:22] <mobasher> i think i need some help with apache..can you guys take a quick peek ? (http://pastebin.com/ugacG3Uc)
[04:22] <spur> martin___: ok, lets try the duh, I didn't check that stuff first.
[04:23] <spur> martin___: have you switched the wire to a known working computer?
[04:23] <twain> Ok
[04:23] <edbian> mobasher, I'm peeking
[04:23] <spur> martin___: have you switched ports?
[04:24] <mobasher> edbian=}} u're a peeker now :D
[04:24] <edbian> mobasher, You have messed with the config files I see.  Why is your webserver hosted at <IP_ADDRESS>:80?
[04:24] <spur> martin___: maybe the wire is in a now dead port. OR, the wire is bad, OR the wire is cross-over instread of straight-thru/path.
[04:24] <mobasher> edbian=}} not sure...what i did...i'm confuesed...
[04:24] <mobasher> edbian=}} i think i changed httpd.conf to put ServerName localhost
[04:25] <mobasher> edbian=}} now i removed it force-reload the conf and tired to start but no luck
[04:25] <spur> martin___: OR that port is a cross-over/uplink or switched to be so.
[04:25] <edbian> mobasher, Maybe it's just easier to purge and start over.  If you sudo apt-get purge apache2 and then sudo apt-get install apache2 it will completely remove apache and the config files and then install it fresh.  That way you can work from a fresh start and follow a guide.
[04:25] <martin___> spur: I just obtained an IP using this wire on another machine.
[04:25] <mobasher> edbian=}} yea that would be a good idea..that's not going to hurt the mysql configuration ?
[04:25] <edbian> mobasher, This is a good guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html
[04:26] <rww> RJ_F1: You're already in #ubuntu, removed from the exploit quarantine, and having no problems. You don't need testing ;P
[04:26] <spur> martin___: okay, so we now know that the magic can flow through that wire when connected to that portal.
[04:27] <martin___> spur: I am going over the router config once more (it cannot hurt to review it again)
[04:27] <Izinucs> martin___: martin___ you could try " sudo ifdown " .. then "sudo ifup" to force the network card to disconnect and reconnect asking for a dhcp address from the router.. if that doesn't work it might be one of those quirky issues with network-manager .. wicd might work better as it does for me on my desktop.
[04:29] <spur> martin___: what Izinucs says assumes that /etc/network/interfaces is set: "iface eth1 inet dhcp"
[04:29] <spur> martin___: which is the default setting.
[04:30] <spur> martin___: I'm wondering why it shows as eth1 instead of eth0.  But, I'm being picky.
[04:30] <spur> martin___: you have firewire in that system?
[04:31] <Izinucs> spur: martin___ my interfaces file which is stock and using network-manager is http://pastebin.com/kBapA9vL
[04:32] <archer> the log is too long. whose apache?
[04:32] <Izinucs> It's also wireless....
[04:32] <treize> How can one find out what commands gnome runs when we click hibernate on the top right menu? I know how to hibernate "sudo pm-hibernate" and I know how to enable the screensaver lock "gnome-screensaver-command -a -l". I need to know the commands to double check the quirks settings in pm-hibernate. Any help is appreciated.
[04:33] <spur> archer: apache is web server.
[04:35] <archer> moe
[04:35] <archer> apache should "listen *:80"
[04:35] <archer> instead of <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[04:36] <spur> archer: <IP_ADDRESS>:80 will be localhost only.
[04:36] <archer> really? i don't think so
[04:36] <firenx> anyone seen this? when i press the left shift key in gnome (10.04) the shutdown dialog comes up..
[04:36] <archer> in win32 it is usually okay to bind all available address
[04:36] <sync3times> spur,  <IP_ADDRESS> is everyone
[04:37] <spur> oh, okay, so that is one I learned today.
[04:37] <meeeeeeeee> my ubuntu installation keep showing black screen and thn this screen starts blinking with verticle white and black strips at the top 1/3rd of the screen....nothing works after tht and i have to restart the system
[04:37] <LinuxGuy2009> I installed the non-free nvidia driver 256.44 and Im trying to get screen cloneing to work with my new 27" LCD TV/Monitor. Is there a trick to this?
[04:37] <sync3times> LinuxGuy2009,   nvidia-settings  will be your best best
[04:37] <juanpaps> hola
[04:38] <Izinucs> LinuxGuy2009: install nvidia-settings.. after install you'll find it in system>preference or Admin
[04:38] <spur> meeeeeeeee: bad video card?
[04:38] <sync3times> LinuxGuy2009, its probably already installed
[04:38] <jfeole> meeeeeeeee:  maybe incorrect screen resolution?
[04:39] <archer> mobasher ?
[04:39] <martin__> Is this normal    ifdown eth1 -> Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1
[04:39] <LinuxGuy2009> Yeah thats what Im using and when I try and set it up I save my xconfig file and everything. Blank on the second monitor. Main screen on login doesnt show the user list but I can hit enter and type my password and login but I cant see what it looks like other than the purple background. Does that help determine what my problem is?
[04:39] <rww> martin__: assuming you didn't set up eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces (which most people don't, because they use network manager instead), yes.
[04:40] <LinuxGuy2009> I set it to twinview
[04:40] <archer> mobasher : you need to "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start" .  and try *:80 instead of <IP_ADDRESS>:80 if fails
[04:40] <LinuxGuy2009> in lucid its "sudo service apache2 start"
[04:40] <sync3times> LinuxGuy2009, good
[04:41] <LinuxGuy2009> sync3times: I get nothing on monitor two though. So not good. hehe
[04:41] <sync3times> LinuxGuy2009, it wont take effect until X restarts
[04:41] <LinuxGuy2009> sync3times: Yeah I rebooted even.
[04:41] <Izinucs> LinuxGuy2009: after installing the nvidia driver did you reboot or just restart X? or nothing?
[04:42] <LinuxGuy2009> rebooted
[04:42] <Izinucs> sync3times: with the binary driver you have to reboot because it makes kernel mod changes.
[04:42] <sync3times> LinuxGuy2009, so in nvidia-settings you see both monitors and you have them set to twinview and clone?
[04:43] <Izinucs> LinuxGuy2009: did you install the driver after downloading from nvidia's site or from the ppa that's setup to make it *much* easier?
[04:43] <LinuxGuy2009> sync3times:Oh wait I see there are both options and I dont know what the difference is. Configuration: Twinview. Position:Left, Right, Top, Bottom, Clone.
[04:43] <typemore> how can I play midi files on ubuntu?
[04:43] <LinuxGuy2009> Izinucs: downloaded it and installed it.
[04:44] <LinuxGuy2009> .run file
[04:44] <sync3times> LinuxGuy2009, good,  I do that too
[04:44] <spur> typemore: I'm not sure, will vlc play midi files?
[04:44] <LinuxGuy2009> Do I need to set each monitor to its own x screen? Then just select Clone for position?
[04:45] <sync3times> LinuxGuy2009,   cat /proc/driver/nvidia/cards/0   to be sure the driver is loading
[04:45] <Izinucs> LinuxGuy2009: I tried that with no success at all.. it's much different in this release when compared to past releases.. I suggest uninstalling the driver then listing the ppa in your sources file.. update and install the driver from synaptic.. reboot.. and viola! It'll work.
[04:45] <sync3times> LinuxGuy2009, no,  Twinview,  and set the position to be clones
[04:45] <LinuxGuy2009> ok
[04:45] <Izinucs> LinuxGuy2009: https://launchpad.net/~nvidia-vdpau/+archive/ppa
[04:45] <sync3times> What do you see on the dead monitor?
[04:45] <LinuxGuy2009> sync3times:Clone on both?
[04:46] <sync3times> LinuxGuy2009, yeah, I think.  I usually edit the file.  But it sounds right
[04:46] <LinuxGuy2009> sync3times: the tv is getting no signal at all.
[04:46] <martin__> eth1 (wired) just bound to an address which is not on my network... through avahi-autoipd... what is going on???
[04:46] <archer> i never make fglrx work for my maverick 64-bits. any idea?
[04:47] <sync3times> LinuxGuy2009, make sure that the HorizRefresh does not say ~30  in  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:47] <spur> martin__: do you have firewire on that system?
[04:47] <Izinucs> LinuxGuy2009: wait.. is the installed driver actaully working.. ?? if so leave it be.
[04:47] <fishcooker> i want to allow ff to automatically  reloading, how to do that
[04:47] <martin__> spur: no
[04:47] <fishcooker> ?
[04:47] <spur> martin__: pastebin ifconfig -a
[04:47] <bazhang> archer, #ubuntu+1 for 10.10
[04:48] <archer> oh.
[04:48] <spur> martin__: I still find it odd that you have eth1 not eth0.
[04:48] <Izinucs> LinuxGuy2009: I thought I was responding to a question from a different nick.. sorry.. to make changes in nvidia-settings stick you should run it from terminal with sudo.. it will then write an xorg.conf file if you want it to.
[04:50] <spur> or gksudo if ubuntu is still using that.
[04:50] <LinuxGuy2009> Izinucs: Yeah i did "gksudo nvidia-settings. Do I want to merge with the old file or untick that option?
[04:50] <bazhang> spur,  it is
[04:51] <martin__> spur: dmesg says udev renamed network interface eth0 to eth1
[04:51] <Izinucs> LinuxGuy2009: did you have a previous file?
[04:51] <spur> LinuxGuy2009: how about you backup the old file.
[04:52] <martin__> spur: and I cannot pastebin, the network is not working on the ubuntu box yet.
[04:52] <spur> LinuxGuy2009: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old
[04:52] <LinuxGuy2009> Im gonna try seperate xscreens and see if that works at all. brbr
[04:52] <LinuxGuy2009> brb
[04:52] <spur> martin__: of course, dain bramage over here.
[04:52] <spur> martin__: so eth1 is the only device listed.
[04:53] <martin__> spur: eth1, eth1:avahi, lo and wlan0 (wlan0 needs wpa supplicant which I think is even more complex to setup)
[04:53] <archer> is it possible to rename wlan0 -> eth2 ?
[04:53] <Izinucs> martin__: when you right mouse click the network icon up by the clock is "networking enabled" checked?  if you choose edit connections does it show eth0 or eth1?
[04:53] <x0rs> If I really want to delve deeply into linux, is there any reason I should choose one window manager over another? (ie gnome vs kde vs other)?
[04:54] <spur> martin__: usually, yes but, I have a homemade script that has worked wonderfully, but it isn't the GUI way. :/
[04:55] <Izinucs> x0rs: the underlying systems are the same ... basically .. then it come down to which interface you like the best.. I use gnome on the lappy and kde on the desktop.
[04:55] <spur> x0rs: and I'm using openbox on my lappy.
[04:55] <x0rs> Izinucs: thanks a lot
[04:56] <_genuser_> Hello People
[04:56] <_genuser_> anyone know what the install file is on teh livecd?
[04:56] <spur> x0rs: i have heard that some people have stayed away from KDE because of QT and nearly religious/political type reasons.  something about the licenseing.
[04:57] <Izinucs> _genuser_: you cold boot to the live cd and when the gui comes up you'll see it there.
[04:57] <spur> _genuser_: um, from Windows?
[04:57] <x0rs> spur: Oh, I see... what is QT?
[04:57] <_genuser_> basically I have xubuntu liveCD. that's the only one that boots. I want to install kubuntu.
[04:57] <tensorpudding> there used to be an issue regarding the QPL that Qt used, but it was dual-licensed with the LGPL years ago
[04:57] <_genuser_> so I'm downloading the iso file.
[04:57] <Izinucs> x0rs: no problem with the licensing.. perhaps in the past but qt is all opensource now.
[04:57] <spur> x0rs: there are 2 main GUI development kits.  qt and tc/tkl.
[04:57] <_genuser_> and this laptop do not have a burner.
[04:57] <LinuxGuy2009> I feel like a retard I got the dual display working just fine, I had the VGA port selected on the TV instead of the HDMI port. Doh!