[07:49] <AutumnCat> Illegal character in hostname; underscores are not allowed <-- firefox said this..but i can enter
[07:49] <AutumnCat>  site
[07:49] <nomasteryoda> timm, try this... ifconfig |grep 192
[07:49] <psylem> nomasteryoda, I have pasted it
[07:49] <nomasteryoda> k
[07:49] <ajax4> ddonky, is it only valid for subdomains?
[07:49] <AutumnCat> Illegal character in hostname; underscores are not allowed <-- firefox said this..but i can enter the site in windows
[07:49] <AutumnCat> so
[07:50] <h4wk0> !repeat | AutumnCat
[07:50] <ubotu> AutumnCat: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:50] <ddonky> ajax4 - yes
[07:50] <AutumnCat> so do another friend who use ubuntu
[07:50] <nomasteryoda> psylem, your link to the pasted text?
[07:50] <Nubbie> AutumnCat: ubuntu is not windows.
[07:50] <orlock> Is there any way to move from Ubuntu 6.* to 7.* via apt?
[07:50] <psylem> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18761/
[07:50] <psylem> sorry
[07:50] <nomasteryoda> timm, that was if you had it already
[07:51] <nomasteryoda> np
[07:51] <Nubbie> AutumnCat: i don't know what i'm talking about... but does SCIM do anything like that?
[07:51] <derektgreen> nubbie: which x server driver do I use? trident, tseng, or vesa?
[07:51] <AutumnCat> another friend who use ubuntu can enter the site .. so i think maybe i had set something wrong..
[07:51] <Nubbie> !scim
[07:51] <ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[07:51] <FakeOutdoorsman> orlock: are you using 6.06 or 6.10?
[07:51] <psylem> should I pull my laptop apart yet, to check if the speakers are attached :D
[07:51] <AutumnCat> Nubbie: scim ?
[07:51] <noelferreira> how can i run an xterm console minimized ?
[07:52] <derektgreen> nubbie: which x server driver do I use? trident, tseng, or vesa?
[07:52] <ajax4> noelferreira, What do you mean by run it minimized?
[07:52] <AutumnCat> ubotu: scim what??..i dont understand
[07:52] <FakeOutdoorsman> noelferreira: i don't think anyone understands.
[07:52] <Nubbie> derektgreen: what video card do you have?
[07:52] <derektgreen> Nubbie: ATI X1600 Pro
[07:52] <nomasteryoda> psylem, looks ok to me...
[07:53] <psylem> me too, but still no sound :(
[07:53] <Nubbie> derektgreen: if there's an ati driver or radeon drivers, use them. if not, use vesa.
[07:53] <idefixx> noelferreira: this has nothing to do with xterm... its a gnome window and gnome has to minimize it on start.
[07:53] <AutumnCat> Nubbie: can you enter http://bigsnake_net.photo.163.com/ ?
[07:53] <veranis> good evening/morning all. I've got what I think is a pretty simple question. I've just done a fresh install of 7.04, and when I try and run "./configure", I get a "no such file or directory" error. Doing a web search hasn't helped since configure is such a common word. I was wondering if there was either a specific package that I needed to install or a specific path I needed to add to get that command working. Thanks all
[07:53] <noelferreira> idefixx: i thought it was an argument given to xterm command idefixx
[07:53] <ddonky> is there anyway to undo Automatix? i want to upgrade to feisty without complications?
[07:54] <Nubbie> AutumnCat: no, i get an error message in chinese.
[07:54] <powder> derektgreen, have you tried:  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu
[07:54] <Nubbie> AutumnCat: it looks like the site is down.
[07:54] <wastrel> that is chinese
[07:54] <timm> if i connect to my vncserver the display stays black/gray, does somebody know why?
[07:54] <Nubbie> AutumnCat: invalid URL.
[07:54] <derektgreen> Nubbie: I downloaded drivers from ATI's site but when I tried to run it I get an error saying I "could not open the file" because gedit couldn't detect the character coding
[07:54] <FakeOutdoorsman> veranis: what are you trying to install or configure?
[07:55] <klasrudian> veranis, what are you trying to kompail/configure ?? does it even exist??
[07:55] <psylem> nomasteryoda, I'll try to boot from the CD and look at stuff and boot normally and look at stuff and see if I can see the difference
[07:55] <peippo> Hi. I have a problem starting my Ubuntu Edgy GUI (X?) After the login screen I get this msg, and a black screen for a few seconds, then get thrown back to the login. "There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon. Unable to determine the address of the message bus". Any ideas what to do? :)
[07:55] <nomasteryoda> psylem, hang on
[07:55] <wastrel> derektgreen:  the ATI driver that comes with ubuntu doesn't work for you?
[07:55] <ingo_> is there a macbook channel for feisty?
[07:55] <ddonky> derektgreen - dont open it with gedit
[07:55] <AutumnCat> Nubbie: that's strange
[07:55] <Nubbie> derektgreen: you don't open it with gedit... just do sudo apt-get install xserver-plugin-ati
[07:55] <psylem> nomasteryoda, kk
[07:55] <derektgreen> Wastrel: the restricted one crashed everything
[07:55] <cycom> I want to connect my bluetooth remote to my laptop, and it'll work if I shut down the hci interface, bring it back up, and scan
[07:56] <idefixx> noelferreira: you are trying to get gnome to start the window minimized, right? so that the window is on you desktop but only appears in the window list at the bottom right?
[07:56] <cewek> hai
[07:56] <yoan> haiiiiiiiiiiii
[07:56] <cewek> hai
[07:56] <veranis> at the time, I was trying to install mldonkey
[07:56] <AutumnCat> Nubbie: my chinese friend can enter the site..and they're using ubuntu...
[07:56] <powder> derektgreen, are you on Feisty?
[07:56] <h4wk0> peippo; Sounds like a dodgy install - I take it you have only just intstalled it
[07:56] <cewek> hai
[07:56] <klasrudian> peippo, what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log  says??
[07:56] <peippo> h4wk0: its been running for about a month
[07:56] <peippo> klasrudian: let me check...
[07:56] <cewek> hai
[07:56] <veranis> however, your question leads me to another: is the configure command supposed to be included with the package and not the OS?
[07:57] <noelferreira> idefixx: but i want that done with my script not at startup
[07:57] <Nubbie> AutumnCat: i have chinese language support installed, and cannot enter the site. the error message suggests to me the site moved or the server doesn't have english language support.
[07:57] <derektgreen> Nubbie: got an error "couldn't find package xserver-plugin-ati"
[07:57] <cewek> hai
[07:57] <cycom> How can I get my bluetooth remote to automagically reconnect?
[07:57] <FakeOutdoorsman> veranis: i assume you tried to follow the mldonkey Quick Start Guide in the wiki? http://mldonkey.sourceforge.net/Quickstart_guide
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> !id | cewek
[07:57] <teethdood> is there a channel for openoffice support?
[07:57] <ubotu> cewek: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[07:57] <Nubbie> !ati | derektgreen
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> !openoffice | teethdood
[07:57] <ubotu> derektgreen: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:57] <ubotu> teethdood: a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[07:57] <h4wk0> veranis; Each peice of software compiles differently.. There for the ./configure picks up diffrent information needed..
[07:58] <noelferreira> idefixx: something like: ' xterm -e -xx command &' where xx is an argumented that makes the window get minimized
[07:58] <Nubbie> openoffice is installed by default.
[07:58] <GigaClon> im getting graphical gliches on my buttons http://filebox.vt.edu/users/miwilso2/trash.png
[07:58] <Nubbie> gigaclon: maybe you're using a bad theme.
[07:58] <nomasteryoda> psylem, try this...  lsmod | grep snd | awk '{print $1}' | xargs modprobe -r
[07:58] <idefixx> noelferreira: i dont think that is a script issue you probably have to do that on with gnome.. even though there might be a shell command.. in any case try to rephrase your question because its kind of vague.
[07:58] <ajax4> veranis, that command actually compiles and builds your own binaries. It's not recommended for beginners. If you just want to go on the e-donkey network try installing amule.
[07:58] <noelferreira> idefixx: like a background process idefixx
[07:58] <nomasteryoda> psylem, then ... modprobe snd-intel-hda
[07:58] <nomasteryoda> then ... esd
[07:58] <veranis> h4wk0: correct. I downloaded the package, unzipped it, went to a shell and the directory I unzipped it to. But ./configure didn't work
[07:58] <rullie> hi, guys, i have a Intel Mobile 945GM/GMS/948GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller. i cannot get resolution higher than 1024x768. any idea?
[07:58] <GigaClon> Nubbie, if you look at the link you see that its the default theme
[07:59] <crimsun> rullie: what resolution/mode do you want to use?
[07:59] <aedes> what kernel is feisty at?
[07:59] <AutumnCat> Nubbie: thanks for you help
[07:59] <GigaClon> i just upgraded from edgy
[07:59] <crimsun> aedes: 2.6.20 + patches.
[07:59] <rullie> crimsun, 1280x800
[07:59] <peippo> klasrudian: hmm.. lots of stuff, the last three lines are "could not init font path element..."
[07:59] <robert_> [01:59:32]  <Leo Kitten> Hey, does ubuntu generally run with a stock kernel, or do they patch it to hell and back?
[07:59] <nomasteryoda> psylem, also let us see what kernel you are using... uname -r
[07:59] <crimsun> rullie: I recommend you install xserver-xorg-video-intel from universe in 7.04.
[07:59] <Nubbie> gigaclon: have you logged out and back in?
[07:59] <Shrimpy_> crimsun: for the intell there is a nice debain package for it
[07:59] <GigaClon> yeah
[07:59] <aedes> thanks crimsun, also does anyone use ciscos open source vpnclient on edgy?
[07:59] <crimsun> Shrimpy_: I know  :)
[07:59] <idefixx> noelferreira: a background process, like a daemon is some different you can get your scripts to the background by adding '&' after the command .. but why do you need the console windows then?
[07:59] <h4wk0> veranis; have you read the README as i have had this problem, But its only simply ./Config.
[07:59] <klasrudian> peippo, pastebin your log at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org so I can have a look
[07:59] <rullie> crimsun, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel ?
[07:59] <Shrimpy_> rullie: there is a nice debain package for it. i used it and it pretty easy
[08:00] <Nubbie> !vpn
[08:00] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[08:00] <darkness3477> Java is in 7.04's repositories, right? Does this mean the JDK is too?
[08:00] <crimsun> rullie: as long as you have universe enabled, yes.  I use it myself.
[08:00] <Nubbie> :l
[08:00] <rullie> Shrimpy_, noob here, can you elaborate?
[08:00] <crimsun> darkness3477: yes.
[08:00] <noelferreira> i know idefixx i said like it not it :)
[08:00] <peippo> klasrudian: ok.. I'll try and see if I can get that done somehow
[08:00] <teethdood> I want to type foreign languages in Ubuntu apps. Can I use the SCIM Input Method app to accomplish this?
[08:00] <GigaClon> teethdood, yes
[08:00] <crimsun> teethdood: for many, yes.
[08:00] <darkness3477> Goody. Just installed 7.04. I'm pleasantly surprised. It starts up so much quicker then 6.06
[08:00] <Nubbie> darkness3477: it may be in a commercial repository i can't remember.
[08:00] <noelferreira> i neeed a & to minimize it instead of put it in background
[08:00] <idefixx> noelferreira: ok :)
[08:00] <crimsun> Nubbie: / darkness3477: no, multiverse.
[08:00] <Shrimpy_> crimsun: its a file you download and ubuntu knows the file and will auto install it. so its really easy
[08:00] <noelferreira> :)
[08:01] <GigaClon> Nubbie, I don't seem to have the problem with any other them other than the default
[08:01] <Shrimpy_> crimsun: oops sorry wrong name lol :)
[08:01] <crimsun> Shrimpy_: we already ship it in universe.
[08:01] <Nubbie> thanks crimsun.
[08:01] <klasrudian> peippo, or you could send it to me... the log file
[08:01] <nomasteryoda> psylem, gotta run... sleep actually
[08:01] <darkness3477> Crimsun/Nubbie; Thanks. As long as I can download that and the emacs JDE I'm happy.
[08:01] <veranis> h4wk0: I was following install.txt ... but lemme go ahead and try ./config
[08:01] <Nubbie> gigaclon: have you logged out and back in. the default theme is the only one changed during an upgrade.
[08:01] <nomasteryoda> someone here knows the answer...
[08:01] <rullie> crimsun, ok thanks, i'm gonna reboot and see
[08:01] <GigaClon> yes I did
[08:01] <psylem> nomasteryoda, it didn't work, but thx for trying
[08:01] <Nubbie> gigaclon: log out and come back, tell me if you still have the problem.
[08:01] <crimsun> rullie: you just need to restart gdm after installing that package.
[08:01] <Nubbie> gigaclon: you do? thats messed up.
[08:01] <Nubbie> :l
[08:01] <crimsun> rullie: no need to reboot.
[08:01] <nomasteryoda> psylem, lsmod |grep intel
[08:02] <ajax4> veranis, why not just install amule from the repository?
[08:02] <derektgreen> Nubbie: that link instructs me to use the restricted drivers that I've already tried. If it locks up is there a way to restore everything to the way it was?
[08:02] <robert_> what patches does ubuntu apply to stock kernels?
[08:02] <crimsun> psylem: what's the issue [with sound] ?
[08:02] <psylem> I got the message FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use.
[08:02] <rullie> crimsun, not sure how to do that lol
[08:02] <nomasteryoda> crimsun, thanks
[08:02] <peippo> klasrudian: how can I copy the log and then paste it in lynx?
[08:02] <crimsun> robert_: hera.kernel.org/git/  (search for ubuntu-*.git.)
[08:02] <Nubbie> !info xserver-plugin-video-ati
[08:02] <ubotu> Package xserver-plugin-video-ati does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:02] <Nubbie> :l
[08:02] <nomasteryoda> crimsun, here's the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18761/ for psylem
[08:02] <Nubbie> derektgreen: just use vesa.
[08:02] <derektgreen> Nubbie: thank you
[08:03] <PiNE> has anyone tried to download the deluge deb from their site lately?  i get directed to a page of gibberish.
[08:03] <Nubbie> derektgreen: it will get you up and running again, then you can worry about 3d accelleration.
[08:03] <psylem> nomasteryoda, that shorter command did something
[08:03] <arigold> Hi All, applying the ntfs-3g update to edgy, but giving me the NOT AUTHENTICATED warning.. any reason to be concerned?
[08:03] <nomasteryoda> what, lsmod |grep intel?
[08:03] <Shrimpy_> crimsun: are the xserver-i810-modesetting the same as xserver-intel ?
[08:03] <Nubbie> arigold: 3rd party repository?
[08:03] <darkness3477> do I need to add the 'Multiverse' to Synaptic? It's been a long time since I've set up a new installation
[08:03] <crimsun> Shrimpy_: that's the old and obsoleted version in 6.10.  Don't use it.
[08:04] <nomasteryoda> Shrimpy_, it was not for me... the intel one would not work on my laptop...
[08:04] <derektgreen> Nubbie: would vga, via, vmware be any better?
[08:04] <Shrimpy_> crimsun: ok i guess i'll change it
[08:04] <psylem> yes that worked
[08:04] <arigold> Nubbie - not sure where to check its source, since I am running through the GUI updater
[08:04] <nomasteryoda> good
[08:04] <smallfoot-> http://www.digg.com/ is closed
[08:04] <smallfoot-> website closed
[08:04] <klasrudian> peippo, ctrl-x + i
[08:04] <crimsun> psylem: I need to know what the root symptom is.
[08:04] <veranis> ...
[08:04] <crimsun> nomasteryoda: thanks.
[08:04] <ajax4> arigold, this should get rid of the message: sudo apt-get update
[08:04] <nomasteryoda> so the module is not loading for his card
[08:04] <Shrimpy_> nomasteryoda: yeah i'm on a laptop
[08:04] <Nubbie> derektgreen: don't change the default plugins, skip through it all until you get to the screen resolutions
[08:04] <rullie> crimsun, it worked ,thank you! :)
[08:04] <psylem> crimsun: when I installed ubuntu to my laptop, sound no longer works
[08:04] <crimsun> rullie: np.
[08:04] <FakeOutdoorsman> PiNE: i confirm your error.  i bet their mime settings are messed up.  you can still right click it and download or use wget in terminal
[08:05] <nomasteryoda> Shrimpy_, i stuck with the i810... had to uninstall the intel version...
[08:05] <crimsun> psylem: I presume you mean 7.04?
[08:05] <ajax4> arigold, try that and then do try to install that package and see if it gets rid of the error.
[08:05] <robert_> crimsun: my friend wants to know if she can patch a ubuntu kernel, or if there will be problems
[08:05] <psylem> crimsun: yes
[08:05] <rullie> crimsun, one more thing, it's prompting the keyring manager everytime i login, how do i get rid of that?
[08:05] <arigold> have you heard of bad repositories for this particular source?
[08:05] <crimsun> psylem: I've fixed that already.  See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/105582
[08:05] <psylem> crimsun: it worked fine on the installation CD
[08:05] <PiNE> FakeOutdoorsman, cheers, i will try that.
[08:05] <arigold> ajax4 - ok will do
[08:05] <midgewa> Nubbie: with gtk-gnutella, im having trouble removing files that are 100% from the download window... am i missing something?
[08:05] <Shrimpy_> nomasteryoda: well it's the i80-modesetting. i found it on debain
[08:05] <thebillywayne> nomasteryoda, what sort of problems did you have with the intel version, versus the i810?
[08:05] <FakeOutdoorsman> PiNE: you should let them know it is mental on their site.
[08:05] <psylem> crimsun: and there appears to be nothing wrong
[08:05] <crimsun> robert_: it may be difficult.  What does she want to patch in?
[08:05] <nomasteryoda> thebillywayne, i got complete black xorg screen...
[08:05] <Shrimpy_> nomasteryoda: because i tired just the i180 and it not good
[08:06] <nomasteryoda> no video
[08:06] <AutumnCat> FakeOutdoorsman: of course not
[08:06] <nomasteryoda> weird.. this is i855gm chip
[08:06] <nomasteryoda> beryl is uber good on it
[08:06] <crimsun> rullie: see libpam-keyring, but it requires additional configuration.
[08:06] <Shrimpy_> nomasteryoda: beryl takes away all my free time lol
[08:06] <FakeOutdoorsman> AutumnCat: of course not?  me confused.
[08:06] <rullie> crimsun, hm ok. thanks
[08:06] <PiNE> FakeOutdoorsman, yeah, it would be good for them to know!
[08:06] <zbrown> beryl takes away all my process cycles :(
[08:06] <midgewa> Nubbie: with gtk-gnutella, im having trouble removing files that are 100% from the download window... am i missing something?
[08:06] <nomasteryoda> hehe
[08:07] <nomasteryoda> ya my sleep time... just tweaking it...
[08:07] <HiddenHax> anyone have backtrack 2?
[08:07] <robert_> [02:08:29]  <Leo Kitten> But I want to know what I'll break if I use a stock 2.6.21
[08:07] <FakeOutdoorsman> PiNE: maybe you should ask them for a md5hash to see if the deb on the site has been corrupted.
[08:07] <psylem> nomasteryoda: what do I do next?
[08:07] <nomasteryoda> 16 virtual screens are too much for my brain to handle....
[08:07] <FakeOutdoorsman> but that is probably not needed...
[08:07] <crimsun> psylem: please see the URL I gave you above.  I fixed that bug in early April.
[08:07] <AutumnCat> FakeOutdoorsman: It's not a bait, the url is a alias of http://photo.163.com/photos/bigsnake_net/
[08:08] <FakeOutdoorsman> oh...duh
[08:08] <peippo> klasrudian: pastebin tells me I'm probably trying to spam when I tried posting that log file :/
[08:08] <Nubbie> new beryl plugin will have tilable workspaces... up to 64 workspaces i believe.
[08:08] <robert_> crimsun: she runs a stock kernel
[08:08] <Nubbie> thats crazy.
[08:08] <Shrimpy_> why would you need 64 worksapces?
[08:08] <bradf0rdX> Is there a way that I can make things that I put in the task bar at the bottom... um stay forever?
[08:08] <psylem> thx crimsun, must have missed that
[08:08] <idefixx> Nubbie: woot 64
[08:08] <midgewa> who the hell needs 64 workspaces?
[08:08] <crimsun> robert_: a stock .21 doesn't have all our wifi and sound patches, among many others.
[08:08] <bradf0rdX> Like, I want the trash to stay forever, and there be no way for me to get it off
[08:09] <klasrudian> peippo, xD  do a "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE"
[08:09] <bradf0rdX> Like the trash in OS X, you can't get it off of the dock @ all
[08:09] <robert_> crimsun: will it *break* is what she wants to know- i.e. not boot
[08:09] <crimsun> robert_: I need hardware details.  Unless you want me to guess what hardware she has.
[08:09] <ajax4> bradf0rdX, there is a permanent trash icon you can add to the taskbar.
[08:10] <bradf0rdX> ajax4, Where do I get that?
[08:10] <robert_> asking
[08:10] <idefixx> bradf0rdX: why doesnt putting it there and locking it to that position do it for you? i mean how often do you accidental click on 'remove'?
[08:10] <bradf0rdX> all the time... even in Windows
[08:10] <arigold> ajax4: thanks.. worked by command line
[08:10] <ajax4> bradf0rdX, right click the taskbarm click add to panel, then click trash, then click the add button.
[08:10] <bradf0rdX> If there
[08:11] <ajax4> arigold, no problem. I had a similar problem when I first installed and someone recommended that fix to me :)
[08:11] <nomasteryoda> psylem, did you get down to it? ... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/105582/comments/29
[08:11] <peippo> klasrudian: "Failed to initialize GLX module" ... "AIGLX: DRI Module not loaded" ... and "xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom"
[08:11] <bradf0rdX> are the words "delete" or "Remove" or "Empty" or anything like that on the trash I'll click which ever I see 1st
[08:11] <arigold> ajax4: trying to follow through with this nifty list: http://tinyurl.com/3xwv6x
[08:11] <psylem> Crimsun: thx m8, I owe you one
[08:11] <klasrudian> peippo, xD  do a "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep WW" gives??
[08:12] <idefixx> bradf0rdX: well that no good then :) i dont know how to help you.. would a trashcan on your desktop be ok?
[08:12] <ajax4> bradf0rdX, no I think its just a trash icon, though you might be able to add your own caption.
[08:12] <crimsun> psylem: don't mention it.  :)
[08:12] <MSTK> hey, does anyone know if it's possible to change the colors on the Gnome Command line (the one that comes up when you press CTR L+ALT+F1-F6?)
[08:13] <wastrel> MSTK:  like the prompt colors?
[08:13] <bradf0rdX> How would I do that? Like... make it say "EMPTY THE TRASH, NOT DELETE THE ICON"
[08:13] <bradf0rdX> ?
[08:13] <HENDRA> dfdfdf
[08:13] <robert_> psst, crimsun
[08:13] <robert_> [02:11:44]  <Leo Kitten> The biggest ones are.. uhh..
[08:13] <robert_> [02:14:21]  <Leo Kitten>
[08:13] <robert_> ICH7 High Definition audio codec (Damned if I can tell which one)
[08:13] <robert_> Attansic L1 gigabit ethernet (ATL1 driver)
[08:13] <robert_>  Box doesn't say anything. It's an Asus P5L-MX board
[08:13] <idefixx> bradf0rdX: ok i just check you cant delete the trash thingy from the desktop :). so that should work for you.
[08:13] <MSTK> wastrel - yeah.  The font and background colors, similar to how you can change the GUI terminal.
[08:13] <josh_> Sorry new to linux. I am looking for help with grub. Can someone direct me to the right place.
[08:14] <bradf0rdX> idefixx, thx
[08:14] <Shrimpy_> brad0rdX: open the trash bin. and then in feisty there is a big menu on top saying empty trash
[08:14] <wastrel> MSTK:  you can change the bash prompt color with the bash prompt howto
[08:14] <wims> how do i find out which device my dvd-rw is?
[08:14] <idefixx> bradf0rdX: press alt+f2, type in 'gconf-editor' and got to /apps/nautilus/desktop/trash_icon_visible
[08:14] <wastrel> MSTK:  the background and font color in general... not sure
[08:14] <wastrel> font, there's a thing for that
[08:14] <arejay> idefixx: does that fix the problem with the trash icon not showing items in the trash can?
[08:14] <idefixx> bradf0rdX: check it, and a trash icon should appear on your desktop .. not removeable :)
[08:14] <bradf0rdX> now, is there a good dock for gnome that dosn't use compiz or anything fancy like that???
[08:14] <ajax4> bradf0rdX, I don't know how to change the caption for trashcans that you add to your taskbar (panel).
[08:14] <peippo> klasrudian: "The directory /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc, cyrillic, 100dpi, ...etc (7 directories) does not exist" ... and "fonts.dir not found in /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/Truetype"
[08:15] <FakeOutdoorsman> !grub | josh_
[08:15] <ubotu> josh_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:15] <FakeOutdoorsman> heh...grub
[08:15] <MSTK> wastrel - you're referring to the full-screen bash terminal, right?  how would I do that, then?
[08:15] <klasrudian> peippo, the line  "Failed to initialize GLX module" what more does it say??
[08:15] <dodimar> i am trying to install ubuntu 6.06, i want to install it without going through the live program ( it's slow) how can i do it.?
[08:15] <idefixx> arejay: he didnt say he want the icon back.. his problem is that he keeps deleting it by accident.
[08:16] <idefixx> arejay: and there is now way to prevent that on the taksbar
[08:16] <ingo_> ekiga doesn't work for macbook isight camera - how can i fix it on feity?
[08:16] <robert_> incidentally
[08:16] <da_shrewd> hello, anyone expert in postnuke?
[08:16] <da_shrewd> i need some help
[08:16] <wastrel> MSTK:  looking it up
[08:16] <robert_> are there any ubuntu utils for customizing my bootsplash screen?
[08:16] <arejay> idefixx: damn :)
[08:16] <idefixx> arejay: ;)
[08:17] <peippo> klasrudian: please check in your X logfile that the GLX module has been loaded in your X server, and that the module is the NVIDIA GLX module. If you continue to encounter problems, please try reinstalling the NVIDIA driver.
[08:17] <pyrohotdog> Is there any software available for Ubuntu/linux for creating flash/action script animations?
[08:17] <ajax4> robert_, Yeah, go to System > Administration > Login Window
[08:17] <bradf0rdX> Does anyone know if there's a good dock out there for Gnome that DOESN'T use compiz?
[08:17] <psylem> Crimsun: Works like a charm! 30 minute turn around on an issue, good work guys!
[08:17] <klasrudian> peippo, what GFX do you got??
[08:18] <peippo> klasrudian: what gfx? you mean what graphics card?
[08:18] <robert_> ajax4: I dont have a 'Login window' - I have a 'Login Manager'
[08:18] <klasrudian> peippo, yes what graphic card do you have..
[08:18] <peippo> klasrudian: geforce 6600 gt
[08:18] <ajax4> robert_, that's probably it, on my version it says Login Window
[08:18] <robert_> hm
[08:19] <robert_> do note that I'm running KDE
[08:19] <wastrel> MSTK:  the console fonts aren't going to be the same as your X fonts.  you can install fonty, console-terminus and console-data for more fonts.  use sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data to change console font (there's probably a better way but that should work)
[08:19] <ajax4> robert_, Yeah I'm running 7.04 with gnome so there could be some differences.
[08:19] <MSTK> wastrel - thanks, I'll check it out
[08:19] <robert_> yeah
[08:19] <klasrudian> peippo, what driver are you trying to load in your "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" file?? for your gfx....
[08:20] <mama1> hai
[08:21] <midgewa> what is the "super" key?
[08:21] <teethdood> midgewa, it's the windows key
[08:21] <FakeOutdoorsman> midgewa: usually the Windows key
[08:21] <klasrudian> midgewa, the "win" key
[08:21] <midgewa> thankyou
[08:21] <FakeOutdoorsman> teethdood: you beat me this time...
[08:21] <robert_> OOoh
[08:21] <robert_> I see
[08:21] <theJokercard> You've probably heard the problem before. I'm having trouble with akamaru
[08:21] <robert_> Login Window under the KDE system menu
[08:21] <klasrudian> and i was totaly last 0_o
[08:22] <midgewa> hahahaha beryl just got so much better
[08:22] <teethdood> I kind of need some help with this SCIM stuff
[08:22] <s0urce> hi
[08:22] <Polygon89> hey, i just installed the nvidia drivers on my old computer, and before it allowed me to go to 1024x768, but now the highest option i can set for the resolution is 800x600... is there a way that i can change it to 1024x768?
[08:22] <wastrel> pyrohotdog:  i don't think so.  you need the adobe stuff for that don't you?  maybe gnash has something
[08:22] <CaptainMorgan> !mp3
[08:22] <Laney> np:
[08:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:22] <theJokercard> Well, anyone at all?
[08:23] <teethdood> how do I get SCIM to work? it's running, tried turning it on with the designated hotkey, but I can't type any foreign characters
[08:23] <klasrudian> Polygon89, you aloved that resoltion in xorg.conf??
[08:23] <s0urce> i installed the newest ubuntu version, now i try to get this 3d effects (e.g. cude desktop) running, any1 can tell me plz how to start? thx
[08:23] <robert_> ajax4: and, by bootsplash, I'm refering to the "Ubuntu" spinning logo thing when the system starts u/shuts down
[08:23] <wastrel> teethdood:  did you install the language pack?
[08:23] <ajax4> robert_, yeah I don't know how to change the bootsplash screens, just the login window screen.
[08:23] <wastrel> hrm that's a windows term isn't it
[08:23] <teethdood> wastrel, the language pack for GNOME? the entire thing?
[08:23] <robert_> then nevermind
[08:24] <wastrel> teethdood:  no the specific language you're interested in.   system > administration > language support
[08:24] <peippo> klasrudian: NVIDIA corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600 / 6600 GT]
[08:24] <ajax4> teethdood, you just want to switch the language you input on your keyboard?
[08:24] <jlilly> Having a bit of a problem. I'm trying to install ubuntu-restricted-packages, but the java install fails. I run it manually and I get a conflict:  sun-java6-plugin: Depends: sun-java6-bin (= 6-00-2ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed
[08:25] <idefixx> ajax4: i did that ages ago in debian you had to compile the bootsplash into the kernel dont know if thats still the case for ubuntu though.
[08:25] <klasrudian> peippo, that was the Identifier, what does the Driver says just the/some row under??
[08:25] <Polygon89> klasrudian, i just installed it 2 seconds ago i havent edited anything yet. but in the config file it has 1024x768 listed for all depths
[08:25] <ajax4> idefixx, yeah I played around with it in Mandriva also but I have no idea in Ubuntu...robert_ was asking about it.
[08:25] <theJokercard> Meh, I'll just repeat a bit more in depth. I'm trying to install Akamaru, but when I "git clone <address>" it gives me "/usr/bin/gitfm: fatal error: `chdir' failed: permission denied"
[08:25] <s0urce> is there any howto, how to setting up this desktop cube effects on 7.04?
[08:26] <peippo> klasrudian: ah, Driver: "nvidia"
[08:26] <idefixx> ajax4: oops wrong person :)
[08:26] <macogw> s0urce: what kinda graphics and with beryl or compiz?
[08:26] <wastrel> s0urce:  the fine folks in #ubuntu-effects can help with that
[08:26] <robert_> heh yeah
[08:26] <wims> how do i find out which device my dvd-rw is?
[08:26] <teethdood> I want to type Vietnamese (Xchat works perfectly) for example if I type "dd" I would get   or dda^y becomes y
[08:26] <ajax4> idefixx, np
[08:26] <robert_> and I'm still here :P
[08:26] <s0urce> wastrel thx
[08:26] <JerryMcFarts> Hello, I am having a problem With Gnome, It will totally freeze, I can not alt+ctrl+backspace. The mouse will be frozen also. This is when I boot into it normally, and I don't really do anything at all. I started noticing freezes when I installed VMWARE workstation and Deluge torrent cleint. But now it freezes when those aren't even started. How can I view what is erroring out?
[08:26] <idefixx> robert_: well i guess you read it then ;)
[08:26] <robert_> tmk, Ubuntu comes with bootsplash
[08:26] <ajax4> teethdood, try the gnome Keyboard Indicator applet.
[08:26] <klasrudian> peippo, change that to "nv" and you can get in to you X... then search in the ubuntu forum how to install the nvidia driver
[08:27] <macogw> teethdood: i have a script that installs asian language typing stuff
[08:27] <wastrel> i have scim
[08:27] <midgewa> is there an 'object dock' style program for ubuntu - i thought it was incorporated in beryl but aparently not
[08:27] <macogw> it just runs a bunch of commands from a website
[08:27] <teethdood> I thought SCIM would work
[08:27] <macogw> yeah it's for getting scim all set up
[08:27] <robert_> idefixx: uh, duh :P
[08:27] <theJokercard> midgewa, that's what I'm working on. No one seems to know the problem though
[08:27] <ajax4> JerryMcFarts, do you use xgl, aixgl, beryl, or compiz?
[08:27] <macogw> teethdood: yeah, scim's what you need, you just have to get the languages you need installed
[08:27] <FakeOutdoorsman> wow...i'm dumb.  i thought openbox wasn't loading, but I never tried to right click until now.
[08:28] <klasrudian> Polygon89, then the nvidia driver don't think your monitor/gfx-card can handel more then 800x600 O_o
[08:28] <JerryMcFarts> I have them installed, Beryl. But I manually start them up when I want
[08:28] <midgewa> theJokercard, do u mean you have the same problem as me?
[08:28] <ajax4> JerryMcFarts, I've had many instability issues with xgl/beryl and vmware.
[08:28] <theJokercard> midgewa, I don't know. I'm trying to get akamaru to work, with no luck.
[08:28] <midgewa> hmm
[08:28] <lgc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyLqUf4cdwc&mode=related&search=
[08:28] <teethdood> I was under the impression that if I do System | Admin | Language Support I would actually make GNOME menus turn into another language which I don't want
[08:28] <Polygon89> klasrudian, the thing is before i installed the driver i got 1024x768.. why all of a sudden i cant use that?
[08:28] <peippo> klasrudian: ok, I will try that, thank you!
[08:29] <Si|3nt> Hello all
[08:29] <ajax4> teethdood, try the gnome Keyboard Indicator applet.
[08:29] <klasrudian> Polygon89, because then it was another driver installed
[08:29] <teethdood> ajax4, where is that?
[08:29] <wastrel> teethdood:  no, it just installs fonts and er, uh.  stuff :]   don't worry i installed chinese support and still have my english Gnome :]
[08:29] <Polygon89> klasrudian, ok. thanks, ill just remove the driver then (not going to be using 3d anyway)
[08:29] <macogw> does anybody have any idea why my cd burner doesn't work?  it worked in dapper/edgy.  it worked in feisty til that point when it *completely* broke for everyone.  but since then it hasnt worked even though it works for everyone else now.  it doesnt give the old error that unstable would give where it couldnt find the drive or something.  now it gets a "write error" every single time, whether i use k3b, nautilus, or gnomebaker.  i'm not using a high speed (on
[08:29] <Si|3nt> my pc keeps freezing (using edgy) i checked processes in system monitor cpu is at 100% and usualy XORG taking most of its % ... whts up with tht?
[08:29] <ajax4> teethdood, you just want to switch the languages when you type them in?
[08:30] <teethdood> ajax4, yes
[08:30] <macogw> teethdood: to make menus change languages, log out and go to settings and language and pick the language
[08:30] <klasrudian> Polygon89, if you go down in depths you might be able to get a greater resolution with the nVidia driver
[08:30] <macogw> when you log in the menus will be that language (provided hte language packs are installed)
[08:30] <JerryMcFarts> ajax4, so beryl not started automatically would that still effect my VMware installation? I assume VMware dameons start up since I can use the VMware player, but as of Beryl I have to activate it manually. This is on a clean install of fiesty fawn. I really didn't have any problem until I recently installed Deluge torrent and I attributed my freezing to that. What logs can I look at that will show me more input on whats going wrong?
[08:30] <lgc> Anyone in for real fun with Vista speech recognition? Go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyLqUf4cdwc&mode=related&search=
[08:30] <ajax4> teethdood, right click a panel, click add to panel, click Keyboard Indicator, then click Add button.
[08:31] <Polygon89> klasrudian, ill try that, thanks
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> lgc: offtopic
[08:31] <macogw> lgc: that's old
[08:31] <lgc> Sorry, I just discovered it...
[08:31] <theJokercard> So not a single person knows how to fix it?
[08:32] <macogw> /lastlog thejoker
[08:32] <ajax4> JerryMcFarts, that I don't know. It could be something totally unrelated to vmware, I just mentioned that I had compatibility problems with vmware and the desktop effects, but that may not be why you are having lockups.
[08:32] <wastrel> what's akamaru
[08:32] <macogw> there's no lastlog on gaim?
[08:32] <wastrel> macogw:  there's a plugin for that
[08:32] <wastrel> i think you just have to enable it
[08:32] <wastrel> also need to enable logging
[08:32] <theJokercard> macogw, eh?
[08:32] <macogw> wastrel: why's it a plugin?  that's like a standard irc thing
[08:33] <midgewa> theJokercard; tried a program called kooldock?
[08:33] <Shrimpy_> lgc: that is amazing
[08:33] <wastrel> gaim is a crappy irc client
[08:33] <macogw> irssi doesnt even have a GUI but it has lastlog
[08:33] <theJokercard> midgewa, is it for gnome?
[08:33] <midgewa> theJokercard i just got it and its what i want, the menus are just shit
[08:33] <wastrel> irssi is a good irc client
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | midgewa
[08:33] <ubotu> midgewa: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:33] <wastrel> gaim is an instant messenging client.
[08:33] <JerryMcFarts> ajax4, thanks for the advice
[08:33] <midgewa> theJokercard i think so..... works for me, in ubuntu feisty
[08:33] <ajax4> np
[08:33] <sanityx> Haha digg got so pwned.
[08:33] <sanityx> !worksforme
[08:33] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> sanityx: offtopic
[08:34] <wastrel> and now that you mention it i don't know anything about gaim irc, so disregard my plugin dealy i was thinking of an IM thing :]
[08:34] <midgewa> theJokercard; i cant seem to get the orientation to be on the top though, it likes to be on the bottom
[08:34] <lgc> Shrimpy_, it's just the usual level of quality Microsoft gives...
[08:34] <theJokercard> midgewa, aye, but does it have a physics engine?
[08:34] <ajax4> teethdood, is that what you were looking for?
[08:34] <theJokercard> the one I'm after has one built into it.
[08:34] <midgewa> theJokercard, i have no idea - im a linux noob
[08:35] <piNNoy> how many workspaces do i need to make the cube work?
[08:35] <Shrimpy_> lgc: yes so much work to do something simple
[08:35] <macogw> teethdood: http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/ for asian text input.  for changing your environment's language, install language packs in system > admin, then log out and choose a different language in the settings before you log in
[08:35] <midgewa> piNNoy: using Beryl?
[08:35] <dreamcastjack> hey guys
[08:35] <klasrudian> piNNoy, cube?? you mean the beryl desktop cube or??
[08:35] <macogw> wow #ubuntuforums is DEAD
[08:35] <piNNoy> midgewa: no i just have ubuntu,, do i need berly to have the cube?
[08:36] <teethdood> ajax4, I was installing the language support through System|Admin|Language support, going to try your method now too
[08:36] <macogw> piNNoy: yes
[08:36] <piNNoy> mac: ok THANKS
[08:36] <midgewa> piNNoy id get beryl
[08:36] <lgc> Shrimpy_, much ado about nothing...
[08:36] <macogw> piNNoy: what version are you using?
[08:36] <piNNoy> thats why i couldnt work the cube - lol
[08:36] <piNNoy> mac: im using version 7.04
[08:36] <macogw> piNNoy: if you have feisty, the "desktop effects" has a cube from compiz
[08:36] <macogw> ok you have a cube available then
[08:36] <ajax4> teethdood, if you just want to enter input in different languages and not change your whole system's language, that panel applet should do the trick.
[08:36] <theJokercard> midgewa, Meh, I'm downloading it to see if I like it then.
[08:36] <midgewa> piNNoy, i think there are ways to do it without beryl, but beryl is definately the best.. and the most fun
[08:36] <piNNoy> i have my desktop effects set on as cute..
[08:36] <macogw> piNNoy: go to system > preferences > desktop effects
[08:36] <macogw> oh
[08:36] <piNNoy> cube.
[08:36] <Shrimpy_> lgc: i'm still watching and laughing harder
[08:36] <macogw> did you ctrl alt arrow right and see if it spins?
[08:37] <midgewa> theJokercard yeah, tell me if u work out how to change its position
[08:37] <piNNoy> what buttons move it? i see the 3d effects when i move windows
[08:37] <FakeOutdoorsman> how do I declare the background color in a pure xorg session?  i can't remember...
[08:37] <theJokercard> midgewa, right now it's stuck at 70 percent.
[08:37] <macogw> piNNoy: Ctrl Alt and then use right and left arrows
[08:37] <MoL1> multimedia question: I have a fresh install of feisty, with w32codecs installed, but I realplayer streams refuse to play in Totem.  Totem simply exits with "unable to read stream" error.  Works just fine on my edgy box, but I do have totem-xine installed for that, totem-gstreamer on my feisty box.
[08:37] <lgc> Shrimpy_, there's a whole bunch of videos just as hilarious...keep looking!
[08:37] <piNNoy> mac: i just tried - it dosent spin.
[08:37] <midgewa> piNNoy, with beryl? ctrl+alt+mouseclick and drag
[08:37] <macogw> piNNoy: you can also Ctrl Alt and then mouse drag
[08:37] <macogw> midgewa: its teh same in compiz and beryl
[08:37] <Shrimpy_> lgc: ok i love vista videos!!!
[08:37] <midgewa> theJokercard; it downloaded fine for me
[08:37] <piNNoy> mac: its not moving 1 bit
[08:38] <macogw> piNNoy: then try beryl
[08:38] <theJokercard> midgewa, I think it is something with my net.
[08:38] <macogw> what kinda graphics card do you have?
[08:38] <ajax4> piNNoy, you might also ask in #ubuntu-effects
[08:38] <midgewa> piNNoy; try beryl, its more fun anyway
[08:38] <klasrudian> FakeOutdoorsman, setxkbmap
[08:38] <piNNoy> mac: Mobile Intel(R) 945GM Express chipset family
[08:38] <macogw> piNNoy: sudo aptitude install beryl
[08:38] <piNNoy> 224mb memory on grapics card
[08:38] <macogw> if you have intel graphics its EASY
[08:38] <james12296> Hi,   I have to ask if anyone has sucessfully installed a lightscribe drive in 7.04?   I use to run Linspire but was never able to install my lightscribe  software because lightscribe.com only has the RPM format of the files.  I tried to use alien to convert the file but have to admit that I can't.  I'm too much of a newbie to figure this out.    I should be able to type all kinds of crazy characters using Times New Roman
[08:39] <piNNoy> mac: with the - ?   sudo aptitude-install beryl
[08:39] <lgc> Shrimpy_, I keep laughing because all the guys who try it get mad...at it...LOL!
[08:40] <macogw> piNNoy: no ?  just: sudo aptitude install beryl
[08:40] <piNNoy> mac: ok thanks a bunch
[08:40] <Shrimpy_> lgc: it seems pretty real. as in everybody gets mad
[08:40] <Shrimpy_> lgc: i love when it types random words
[08:41] <midgewa> any opera users here?
[08:41] <ajax4> teethdood, pretty sure you have to use unicode specific fonts. Don't ever use unicode myself, though.
[08:41] <lgc> midgewa, I used to be...
[08:41] <Oscar> hello all.  I'm trying to install the latest kmymoney in ubuntu gnomed. but a dependency is not found, even thought synaptic says i have it.
[08:42] <ajax4> Oscar, do: sudo apt-get update
[08:42] <midgewa> lgc; is ther reason u stopped coz its slow? when i was on xp i refused to use anything but opera but in ubuntu it seems to be pretty gay
[08:42] <ajax4> Oscar, then try again.
[08:42] <rullie> hi luna7kiss
[08:42] <Oscar> ok
[08:43] <Oscar> ajax4: i did what you said but when i run the deb package, it still gives me the same error
[08:44] <ajax4> Oscar, you're trying to install a deb package that is not in the repository?
[08:44] <luna7kiss> rullie, yo
[08:44] <Oscar> yes
[08:44] <lgc> midgewa, no...Opera is fast. Much faster than Firefox (even with Fasterfox enabled). The fastest browser in the world is indeed Dillo. It's up in less than 5 seconds. But...(there's always a catch!) it's very simple (no frames, no crypto, and so on).
[08:45] <ajax4> Oscar: Any packages that you don't have need to be downloaded and installed also.
[08:45] <macogw> Oscar: it might need a different version of the dependency than is installed
[08:45] <midgewa> lgc; i find that when surfing, opera loads pages much slower than firefox.. and i hate firefox but i find myself using it more coz opera isnt working right
[08:45] <ajax4> lgc: and no adblock :)
[08:45] <FakeOutdoorsman> klasrudian: ahhh...it's this "xsetroot -solid yourcolor"
[08:45] <Oscar> ok, i see, i will search for an updated kdelibs4 and see what if find
[08:45] <Mike> hi
[08:46] <Mike> how can I Install new USB device to Ubuntu OS.
[08:47] <lgc> midgewa, the only thing I usually run out of patience with with Opera is Flash presentations: they go really slow (on Ubuntu).
[08:47] <theJokercard> midgewa, this is retarded. My xchat works, my gaim and skype work..But no browser is working nor apt-get
[08:47] <Mike> Oscar can u help me
[08:47] <Polygon89> does anyone know how to add a grub line to make a computer boot up into console mode? (i dont want it to load x or xfce, etc)?
[08:47] <ajax4> Mike: most usb devices you just need to plug in and they work right away
[08:47] <midgewa> theJokercard :S thats fairly wierd
[08:47] <theJokercard> midgewa, no kidding.
[08:47] <james12296> yes, the file was downloaded onto the desktop but when I tried to run alien from the terminal I kept getting could not find the file.  I thought I would be smart and shorten up the file name and retry but I keep getting file not found.  Again please accept my apology for my ignorance as to ubuntu file structure.  From the terminal I tried to do  sudo alien ls1.rpm  the original file name was ugly and long.  This was the original comma
[08:47] <james12296> nd line.   sudo alien package_file.rpmlightscribe-<IP_ADDRESS>-linux-2.6-intel.rpm
[08:47] <macogw> Polygon89: that's what the "recovery" mode is
[08:48] <lgc> midgewa, I wonder why. It's always been the opossite...
[08:48] <Mike> I did it but It won't work how can I find it's been installed or not?
[08:48] <midgewa> theJokercard relog? i dunno... might work... alt+ctrl+del
[08:48] <jlilly> so I just installed the restricted packages, but amarok still doesn't play mp3's... do I need to restart or something?
[08:48] <klasrudian> FakeOutdoorsman, aah :D  wasn't yesterday i did i so a just took a long shoot... my bad
[08:48] <Polygon89> macogw, oh. thats convenient... never used that before. thanks!
[08:48] <Mike> Oscar I am using Ubuntu 7
[08:48] <lgc> midgewa, what version of Opera do yo use?
[08:48] <ajax4> Mike: what type of device is it?
[08:48] <midgewa> lgc; yeah.. i just really dislike firefox but its what im using now coz i cant stnad how slow opera is
[08:48] <Mike> It's USB Mobile Phone SIM Reader
[08:48] <Shrimpy_> lgc: press n  "backspace" press n "backspace" press n "backspace"
[08:48] <midgewa> lgc; 9.20
[08:49] <lgc> midgewa, you're state of the art now. Hmmm...
[08:49] <FakeOutdoorsman> klasrudian: i also had a wrong long shoot here. whoops.
[08:49] <lgc> Shrimpy_, what?
[08:49] <lgc> Shrimpy_, you're talking about the Vista video?
[08:49] <Shrimpy_> lgc: just quoting the video. ingore me lol
[08:49] <Punkunity> how many of you in here are agnostic?
[08:49] <midgewa> lgc, yeah which is why i dont get it... on windows opera was by far the best id tried
[08:49] <klasrudian> FakeOutdoorsman, what are you running a pure xserver session for??
[08:50] <Punkunity> and how many are actually Atheist?
[08:50] <ajax4> Punkunity: wrong channel dude.
[08:50] <Punkunity> nahh...
[08:50] <midgewa> Punk, whats the difference?
[08:50] <midgewa> agnostic/athiest?
[08:50] <Punkunity> nm, what is a good room tyhen?
[08:50] <lgc> midgewa, you have another choice: Mozilla. It's on the repo's too. You might want to give it a try...
[08:50] <ingo_> hallo all. need help on touchpad for macbook/feisty ...
[08:50] <FakeOutdoorsman> klasrudian: i'm running just openbox as my windows manager on a commandline install of ubuntu for an ancient Toughbook.
[08:51] <midgewa> lgc; isnt that just firefox?
[08:51] <jujimufu> Punkunity: what's the difference between an atheist and an agnosticist?
[08:51] <midgewa> lgc; 'mozilla firefox'?
[08:51] <klasrudian> FakeOutdoorsman, but openbox has it own cahngebackground thing going on
[08:51] <hylje> jujimufu: atheist: "no" agnostic: "maybe"
[08:51] <Punkunity> agnostic you believe there is something but you dont put your faith into a religion...atheist are against any religion
[08:51] <Memories> Hello all
[08:51] <Punkunity> hylje is about right
[08:51] <Mike>  when we plug any usb device where It's usually its display shown in Ubuntu
[08:51] <Memories> i was wondering if some1 could help me set back the panels to their default settings
[08:52] <klasrudian> FakeOutdoorsman, obconf
[08:52] <Memories> am using EDGY
[08:52] <FakeOutdoorsman> klasrudian: that's new to me.  i just added that line to my .xinitrc and it worked.
[08:52] <lgc> midgewa, no. Firefox is the "light" version of Mozilla. I don't know much about the innards, but they look different and they are on different installs.
[08:52] <macogw> Punkunity: agnostic means you dont know and you admit you dont kjnow
[08:52] <jujimufu> Punkunity: why would a Taoist who was born a Confucianist and later turned into an Atheist would kill an Agnosticist who now is as Sexist then?
[08:52] <Memories> and things got messed up
[08:52] <macogw> gnostic = know
[08:52] <macogw> agnostic = opposite of knowing
[08:52] <jujimufu> macogw: no kiddin, I am greek :P
[08:52] <Punkunity> ok how come it is so hard just to get a simple USB iPod to work on goddamn linux/ubuntu
[08:52] <ajax4> Mike: go to Places > Computer
[08:52] <macogw> Punkunity: use amarok
[08:52] <jujimufu> Punkunity: maybe because iPods weren't made for linux?
[08:52] <midgewa> lgc; i dont know if i can be bothered reconfiguring ANOTHER browser, esp if id have to go through root in order to get flash working and stuff
[08:52] <klasrudian> FakeOutdoorsman, but that's an extra openbox package... you have to install it...
[08:52] <jujimufu> Punkunity: but there are plugin for amarok, though.
[08:52] <Mike> Thanks Ajax4
[08:52] <ajax4> Punkunity: I've used ipods under linux with no problem. gtkPod is the program
[08:53] <ajax4> Mike: np
[08:53] <Punkunity> jujimufu what are you talking about man?
[08:53] <Punkunity> i have gtkpod and it doesnt seee either ipod i have ajax4
[08:53] <dennister> hey all, having trouble with surround sound in feisty (didn't get it going with edgy either) on a onboard realtek chip...snd-intel8x0, ac97 codec dmix:6...alsa channel quiet...anyone have any expertise and might be able to help?
[08:53] <macogw> ajax4: amarok's supposed to be nicer/better than gtkpod
[08:53] <FakeOutdoorsman> klasrudian: i have obconf installed, but i see no options for background color...just themes and such but they aren't affecting background color.
[08:53] <macogw> Punkunity: use amarok
[08:53] <Mike> I am Installed USB sim Card Reader but it won't shown in the Computer
[08:53] <midgewa> whats the best music player for Ubuntu? i get the feeling the packaged one isnt the best (at all)
[08:54] <crimsun> dennister: how bad is your codec quirk?
[08:54] <Punkunity> i have amarok, but how do i gte the plug-in for it
[08:54] <lgc> midgewa, no, because mozilla is on the repositories and Opera isn't. Type 'aptitude search mozilla' if you want to have a look at the packages.
[08:54] <klasrudian> FakeOutdoorsman, ooh o_O... you can set backround image with it but not a solid color?? how odd
[08:54] <ajax4> macogw: never used it so I can't say.
[08:54] <dennister> crimsun: have no idea...wishie in #alsa didn't mention that last night, but I've been reading...
[08:54] <ajax4> Punkunity: I've had success with gtkpod, but you can try another like amarok.
[08:54] <jujimufu> Punkunity: well, didn't you want a conversation on religions?
[08:54] <Mike> can I add any device manually in Ubuntu?
[08:54] <macogw> Punkunity: i thought it supported it by default
[08:54] <macogw> i dont have an ipod to test with
[08:55] <crimsun> dennister: well, if plug:surround51 really isn't working, then it's a pretty severe quirk
[08:55] <macogw> but when i looked at amarok on opensuse it had ipod support
[08:55] <midgewa> lgc; so if i get mozilla in its whole, all the settings from firefox will be carried?
[08:55] <crimsun> dennister: (and I don't mean dmixed surround51, which is separate)
[08:55] <jujimufu> I need help setting up an HP PSC2300 printer (printer only) on Feisty Fawn 7.04, KDE.  Did you use the static version too?
[08:55] <ajax4> Punkunity: are you agnostic?
[08:55] <Punkunity> jujimufu i was just askin, no biggie to me though
[08:56] <dennister> crimsun: wishie was coaching me with plug:dmix6 last night...not plug:surround61
[08:56] <midgewa> jujimufu; have you tried to just add the printer using system>admin>printing?
[08:56] <dennister> *51
[08:56] <crimsun> dennister: yes, that's dmixed surround51
[08:56] <Punkunity> yes ajax4 and I know exactly what it means to be, sometimes it would seem easier to be atheist
[08:56] <FakeOutdoorsman> klasrudian: i had debian retch on this machine earlier today, but it didn't like the wireless card and rt2500 devs and i couldn't get it working.
[08:56] <crimsun> dennister: I'm specifically referring to plug:surround51
[08:56] <midgewa> lgc; unsure, i got it on the first day i had/used linux.. im still fairly new to all this
[08:56] <lgc> midgewa, perhaps you might have to import your bookmarks and so. But it's not a Firefox clone (or the other way around). It behaves differently. It's the good-old Netscape!
[08:57] <dennister> well i haven't even tried that yet...how do i determine "how bad my quirk is"?
[08:57] <jujimufu> midgewa: well, I did that yesterday, and although it did recognise the printer, the test page wasn't printed.
[08:57] <bonee_> i need the driver for my ATI x1300 for xorg 7.2
[08:57] <ajax4> Punkunity: if you believe in "something" as you said earlier your beliefs might actually be closer to Deism.
[08:57] <klasrudian> FakeOutdoorsman, wireless can i a pain to make it work.....
[08:57] <Punkunity> when i am in the amarok and have the ipod pluggen in, i cant find it, but the music player auto opens and i see the ipod shuffle, but when i plug in the ipod nano neither program sees it
[08:57] <macogw> ajax4: not necessarily
[08:57] <Oscar> does anybody know of an simple and easy to use collaborating software that would allow a friend to log into my ubuntu via a web browser and edit txt files in real time?
[08:57] <Punkunity> no they arent
[08:57] <ajax4> macogw: ?
[08:57] <macogw> ajax4: if its specifically a "godlike being"
[08:57] <Punkunity> ajax4 nope
[08:57] <lgc> midgewa, 'ldd /usr/bin/opera' should tell you.
[08:58] <bonee_> sup crimsum
[08:58] <macogw> ajax4: but if it's vague enough to include animism, you're not a deist
[08:58] <midgewa> jujimufu have u tried printing from openoffice?
[08:58] <dennister> thing is, after wishie went to work i actually got centre and lfe working...can't duplicate it now...then i rebooted, lost it all, and now sound is worse than b4 :(
[08:58] <ajax4> Punkunity: well you should look into it to see what you think about it.
[08:58] <Punkunity> ajax4 you probably know about this than i do apparantly
[08:58] <midgewa> lgc; "not a dynamic executable'
[08:58] <klasrudian> FakeOutdoorsman, i know you can set background with obconf, i have done it before... but however i think it's not saving it so if you restart/kill your xserver it will boot up again with the default background
[08:58] <crimsun> dennister: then it's likely a mixer control change that wasn't saved.
[08:59] <Punkunity> deity and animism huh?
[08:59] <ajax4> macogw: never heard of animism :) I'll see what wikipedia says on the subject.
[08:59] <klasrudian> wireless can be*
[08:59] <Chetwin> Anyone else unable to get to google???
[08:59] <FakeOutdoorsman> klasrudian: good thing wireless works with ubuntu.  should have known, but i got carried away in the quest for super minimal.  bah.
[08:59] <dennister> well crimsun, u read very knowledgeable, do you have some time to help? perhaps in pm?
[08:59] <macogw> animism is like native american religions where all of nature has a bit of supernatural in it and we're all connected
[08:59] <Punkunity> now on amarok if yuou want to help ajax4
[08:59] <johnt> I am trying to get compiz to work the only thing I have got so fart is wobbly windows will some one help please?
[09:00] <FakeOutdoorsman> klasrudian: are you using openbox?
[09:00] <klasrudian> FakeOutdoorsman, he he he super minimal can be a little to minimal sometimes... missing som key drivers and so on xD
[09:00] <Punkunity> i clicked on the bottom left on media devices
[09:00] <Chetwin> Can anyone get to google?
[09:00] <ajax4> Punkunity: sorry don't know much about amarok, I think macogw said he was familar with it.
[09:00] <Punkunity> ajax4
[09:00] <Frogzoo> Chetwin: google has billions of dollars invested in network infrastructure - you think the problem is at their end or yours?
[09:00] <midgewa> johnt: tried beryl instead?
[09:00] <Chetwin> lol
[09:00] <lgc> midgewa, then it's the static version.
[09:00] <dennister> obviously you'd like to stay in this channel if ur looking for help urself, or helping a number of pps
[09:00] <Chetwin> I can load MYSPACE for god sake, I'm sure it's google
[09:00] <midgewa> lgc; meaning?
[09:00] <Punkunity> macogw do read meman?
[09:00] <midgewa> lgc; i did it wrong?
[09:00] <klasrudian> FakeOutdoorsman, not know have been using it on an old machine i hade... but it's in the closet now... xD
[09:01] <Chetwin> If all of the server overload from the emo kids on myspace is getting thru ....  Figure it out
[09:01] <johnt> midgewa: do I need to uninsall compiz first??
[09:01] <midgewa> i didnt
[09:01] <midgewa> johnt; i didnt
[09:01] <h4wk0> weird Chetwin  i can get google :/
[09:01] <macogw> Punkunity: i dont kjnow what that is
[09:01] <macogw> no i dont know much about amarok either. i use banshee for music and gnomad for syncing my zen
[09:01] <Chetwin> Frogzoo: So much for billions spent on infrastructure HUH?
[09:01] <johnt> midgewa: so i dl beryl and run it?
[09:01] <Frogzoo> 1161 people reply they can get to google no problems
[09:01] <Punkunity> macogw i need help in amarok i clicked on the bottom left on devices
[09:02] <Punkunity> and it wants me to hit the connect button, so i did, and now what macogw
[09:02] <macogw> Punkunity: i dont use it
[09:02] <klasrudian> FakeOutdoorsman, have you tried blackbox and fluxbo to?? see witch one you like the best....
[09:02] <macogw> i sync with gnomad
[09:02] <klasrudian> fluxbox*
[09:02] <Chetwin> Frogoo: Where are you getting the 1161?
[09:02] <midgewa> johnt; yes...
[09:03] <FakeOutdoorsman> klasrudian: ok, so now i have the system down to using 31840k, but that is with heavy xterm.  i have tried flux, but i like openbox better.  i was interested in aewm though.
[09:03] <midgewa> johnt; use synaptic though
[09:03] <Frogzoo> Chetwin: U5 quit and messed my arithmetic
[09:03] <CaptainMorgan> Desktop effects is very, very nice.. but it appears buggy... some programs(after some time) have a tougher time switching to when Alt-Tab is pressed...
[09:03] <lgc> midgewa, it more or less means it doesn't go look for system libraries to run, but it has its own. This mean it is marginally faster, but bulkier than the dynamic version (if I'm saying something wrong here please someone correct me). No you didn't do it wrong. I was trying to find out if perhaps the dynamic version was the culprit of the slowness.
[09:03] <macogw> but you cant use gnomad on an ipod.  gnomad is for mtp devices like creative zen or creative nomad of dell dj
[09:03] <Punkunity> gnomad macopgw for ipod?
[09:03] <johnt> midgewa : do i need to shut compiz down some how?
[09:03] <midgewa> johnt; wouldnt know, id say not
[09:03] <midgewa> lgc; well it would appear not
[09:04] <klasrudian> FakeOutdoorsman, aewm ?? never heard of it... have too google some
[09:04] <Punkunity> gtkpod only does pictures it looks like...
[09:04] <Chetwin> GOOGLE IS BACK UP!
[09:04] <johnt> midgewa; OK then I will get it a shot and see what happens as I do not think it will be any worse than now :-))
[09:04] <FakeOutdoorsman> klasrudian: http://www.red-bean.com/~decklin/software/aewm/
[09:04] <ajax4> Chetwin: They must have heard you were having problems :)
[09:04] <midgewa> johnt; take it from me, beryl will blow you away
[09:05] <Chetwin> ajax4: must have wanted to see how many people could complain with a 1 minute downtime
[09:05] <macogw> Punkunity: no i just said gnomad is only for mtp devices (the kind that sync through windows media player and are "windows only") like creative zen (what i have) creative nomad and dell dj
[09:05] <lgc> midgewa, and you are on a new Ubuntu release?
[09:05] <midgewa> lgc, feisty
[09:05] <Punkunity> Could not find iPod directory structure at '/media/ipod'.
[09:05] <Punkunity> If you are sure that the iPod is properly mounted at '/media/ipod', gtkpod can create the directory structure for you.
[09:05] <Punkunity> Do you want to create the directory structure now?
[09:05] <Punkunity>  on gtkpod it says that when i seacrh for devices
[09:05] <ajax4> Chetwin: :)
[09:05] <Oscar> by syncing your zen via gnomad, you mean transfer music ubuntu --> zen.  that's not really syncing.  or i'm i missing something?
[09:05] <klasrudian> FakeOutdoorsman, yeah found it... google is damn good... oooh looks realy minimalistic
[09:05] <johnt> midgewa; looking forward to that see ya in a bit going to apt--get right now
[09:06] <Shrimpy_> is there a way i can change my mouse cusor
[09:06] <FakeOutdoorsman> klasrudian: perhaps too minimal.  i was using the chart here for wm memory comparisons: http://debian.cante.net/stem/faq/index.html
[09:06] <Shrimpy_> besides the red one and the white one lol
[09:06] <ajax4> Shrimpy_: System > Preferences > Mouse
[09:06] <Punkunity> man linux is definitely becoming more a second hand OS, I hate windows and all but there is so much more free support than Ubuntu
[09:07] <lgc> midgewa, then I don't know. You might want to try luck at #opera, but it's a virtually dead channel. Or at the Opera forums.
[09:07] <Skaag> I want to add a path to certain binaries that will apply for when I sudo -s where do I add this?
[09:07] <Shrimpy_> ajax4: all i have is human and redglass. is there a why i can add more. like a certain file typed
[09:07] <midgewa> lgc; hmm thanks anyway
[09:07] <Punkunity> i dont think i have paid for anyhting on windows including XP pro itself.
[09:07] <macogw> Punkunity: http://chainlynx.blogspot.com/2007/04/ipod-amarok.html try that site
[09:07] <FakeOutdoorsman> Punkunity: we are giving free support.  can't get cheaper than that.
[09:07] <james12296> how do tell terminal the location of a file on the desktop?
[09:07] <macogw> Punkunity: so your windows is pirated?
[09:07] <lgc> midgewa, for nothing...
[09:08] <macogw> james12296: cd ~/Desktop
[09:08] <midgewa> Punkunity; what do u mean no free support... everything on linux is free
[09:08] <midgewa> lgc; lol.. the effort :P
[09:08] <ajax4> Shrimpy_: I don't know how to add custom mouse pointers.
[09:08] <sanityx> Anybody know how I can make Xgl use the regular ubuntu theme and iconset? I got Xgl + Compiz working but now its using the ugly default debian icons + theme
[09:08] <lgc> Shrimpy_, how about a voice-activated Vista-like cursor? He, He...
[09:08] <Punkunity> my windows is gone for now into the abyss of reformatting anbd partitioning i lost all my data. didnt back anything up, my dumbass midgewa
[09:08] <Punkunity> macogw
[09:09] <Shrimpy_> lgc: hahaha sounds good.
[09:09] <rohinton> Hi - just tried to install the 7.04 buntu's on a dell gx260 and they don't seem to work, the previous beta did ok? any one else seen this?
[09:09] <equilibrix> hello guys, anybody here is familiar with Java applets development in Eclipse?
[09:09] <midgewa> Punkunity, i fail to see how this means ubuntu is bad?
[09:09] <macogw> rohinton: does it load up and not install or nothing at all?
[09:09] <jujimufu> midgewa: no, I printed from OpenOffice.org but it didn't print.
[09:09] <Punkunity> i necver said no fere support, but i meant that ipod is not really suppoted my psp was a bitch to get to work, my sound card took forever, but at least i have no viruses hahahahaa
[09:10] <rohinton> macogw: no
[09:10] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | Punkunity
[09:10] <ubotu> Punkunity: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:10] <xushi> hi all. I messed up my sudo/login with pam.. what is the original content of /etc/nsswitch.conf ? i need that to know it
[09:10] <midgewa> jujimufu, does the printer still show up in the printers section in system?
[09:10] <jujimufu> midgewa: well, obviously, since it exists in the printer list of OO.org
[09:10] <rohinton> Punkunity: if it's just scraped the partition table you may be able to repair....
[09:10] <macogw> Punkunity: ipods are supported just fine.  will you go the link i sent?
[09:11] <Punkunity> im not saying ubuntu is bad just not as updated and less availability for top notch programs for external media devices, and drivers for printers(which i still cant get to work)
[09:11] <midgewa> Punkunity; surely you were aware of all those things about linux.. its community based, if noone has written decent drivers for ur stuff, they wont work
[09:11] <jujimufu> Punkunity: top notch programs for external media devides? Such as?
[09:11] <bradf0rdX> does anyone know of an application that tells you Hardware specs? Like Aida32 for Linux????
[09:11] <macogw> Punkunity:  GO TO THE SITE I LINKED
[09:11] <klasrudian> FakeOutdoorsman, oooh intresting
[09:11] <macogw> rohinton: it doesnt get to the "start or install" screen?
[09:11] <rohinton> macogw: ...
[09:12] <midgewa> jujimufu; hmm not really sure how to help you, my printer plugged and played... i was very impressed... maybe post ur query on the forum
[09:12] <macogw> rohinton: does it get to "start or install" ?
[09:12] <rohinton> macogw: no I don't get the install screen.
[09:12] <macogw> Punkunity: go to this http://chainlynx.blogspot.com/2007/04/ipod-amarok.html
[09:12] <jujimufu> midgewa: others have told me that they just plugged their printer in and it worked too. What printer do you have?
[09:12] <Punkunity> im there, looks promising macogw, i am not wanting a battle here, i love linux way more than windows, just frustrating when you have to use linux and you have only used it a week
[09:12] <macogw> rohinton: but it shows the splash screen?
[09:12] <midgewa> jujimufu; one thing that might have happened is that you possibly selected incorrect drivers from the list though?
[09:12] <rohinton> macogw: no
[09:12] <crolle17> i installed vmplayer and got *.vmx file running. now i want to copy a made screenshot to my "real" world in ubuntu. how can do that?
[09:12] <macogw> rohinton: it doesnt boot the cd at all then?
[09:13] <crolle17> how can i do that
[09:13] <rohinton> macogw: right, but the same cd works in my laptop....
[09:13] <midgewa> jujimufu; i have an HP photosmart 3110, admittedly it connects by USB so i would expect better support, but still
[09:13] <jujimufu> midgewa: well, when I had to choose the location of my printer, I saw my printer on the USB port, connected (so I chose that), and it had the printer's name there, so I chose the printer drivers to match exactly the name of th eprinter.
[09:13] <jujimufu> I have an HP on usb too, dang...
[09:13] <Punkunity> seee and i dont kow the difference between ipod generations
[09:13] <ajax4> crolle17: You made the screenshot from inside the vmware environment?
[09:13] <crolle17> does somebody has experiences with vmplayer?
[09:13] <jujimufu> Punkunity: you could google or check in wikipedia.
[09:13] <crolle17> ajax4 yes
[09:14] <rohinton> macogw: maybe I should try the previous kernel?
[09:14] <klasrudian> FakeOutdoorsman, omg konsole :O jesus it's using some resourses
[09:14] <midgewa> jujimufu, thats wierd.. it didnt have exact drivers for mine and it still worked.. i chose the drivers for the 3100, i have the 3110.. makes sense but if u had exact drivers it seems odd to me that it didnt work
[09:14] <ajax4> crolle17: The only way I have found to transfer files from vmware images is to copy them to a network drive or move them onto some removable media.
[09:14] <Punkunity> i am going to get the book Linux For Dummies
[09:14] <midgewa> jujimufu, maybe just try to reinstall the drivers, or choose a different one that's similar
[09:14] <macogw> Punkunity: it doesnt say anything about generations
[09:14] <jujimufu> midgewa: are you using cups?
[09:14] <Punkunity> it says he has a 4th gen
[09:14] <midgewa> jujimufu, if i am, i dont know about it
[09:14] <ajax4> crolle17: I have heard of programs that can mount filesystems from vmware images so you can copy between them but I can't find any in the Ubuntu repositories.
[09:14] <jujimufu> bah
[09:14] <johnt> midgewa; I am downloading beryl and some other stuff do you think I should restart the puter when I get it done?
[09:14] <crolle17> ajax4, a network-drive? how to install one?
[09:14] <macogw> Punkunity: it should be the same on all of them
[09:14] <james12296> Thank you Very Much.... Worked.   Cool.
[09:14] <jujimufu> midgewa: cups is the common unix printer system.
[09:15] <rohinton> macogw: when ubuntu builds do they start with the tool-chain?
[09:15] <jujimufu> *print
[09:15] <midgewa> johnt; beryl dowsnt require you to restart
[09:15] <xushi> anyone please? could you give me a dump of your /etc/nsswitch.conf ?
[09:15] <Oscar> thanks to all for the help, goodnight
[09:15] <crolle17> ajax4, that means some kind of bridge using the network drive, right?
[09:15] <macogw> rohinton: i dont know
[09:15] <midgewa> jujimufu; them i probably am
[09:15] <macogw> rohinton:  does the cd boot at all?  if it doesnt, try reburning it
[09:15] <jujimufu> midgewa: it is the most commonly used, so yeah... but I was just wondering if you were using something else.
[09:15] <FakeOutdoorsman> klasrudian: yeah...look at wmaker in windows managers chart
[09:15] <Punkunity> \and i dont know what Mounted means at all, they keep saying that word
[09:15] <macogw> and do an md5 check on the iso before you burn it
[09:15] <mypapit> hi what's the low-latency kernel is good for ? - http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/admin/linux-lowlatency
[09:16] <macogw> Punkunity: mounted means like when you plug something into windows and it goes "you plugged something in!"
[09:16] <corey> heya, whats the name of that cool replacement menu/launcher for gnome that they lifted from novel?
[09:16] <ajax4> crolle17: There are many ways...you could run samba on your linux computer and connect to it, or run file sharing from the vmware image (if its windows). You could also e-mail the file.
[09:16] <klasrudian> FakeOutdoorsman, yeah saw that :O
[09:16] <macogw> Punkunity: ubuntu automatically mounts everything like windows does.  it should show on your desktop like it would on a mac
[09:16] <midgewa> jujimufu, i got the printer working on my first day of linux; i was using whatever it came with lol
[09:16] <macogw> corey: that's slab
[09:16] <jujimufu> midgewa: yeah, ok :P
[09:16] <FakeOutdoorsman> klasrudian: now to get "beaver" installed: http://debian.cante.net/stem/manual/index.html#additional_light_weight_packages
[09:17] <corey> macogw: thanks pal!
[09:17] <Punkunity> now it is on my desktop what do i do with it, install itunes
[09:17] <midgewa> jujimufu; confirmed, im using cups :P
[09:17] <macogw> Punkunity: there's no itunes on linux.  apple doesnt want anyone to know they're not the only windows alternative
[09:17] <jujimufu> midgewa: ok, thanks :P
[09:17] <macogw> Punkunity: you should be able to use amarok to move files back and forth
[09:17] <crolle17> ajax4, it is windows. do you have a link for working with samba?
[09:18] <macogw> Punkunity: open amarok
[09:18] <Punkunity> ok but i have no songs on linux yet
[09:18] <macogw> Punkunity: click settings > configure amarok
[09:18] <klasrudian> FakeOutdoorsman, fspanel is nice
[09:18] <xushi> PLEASE anyone
[09:18] <Punkunity> k
[09:18] <macogw> Punkunity: oh well then you'll need songs to add to it :p but i'm pretty sure it can copy from the ipod to your computer
[09:19] <xushi> all i'm asking is for 10 seconds of your time
[09:19] <james12296> Good night.
[09:19] <jujimufu> xushi: what's the problem?
[09:19] <FakeOutdoorsman> klasrudian: that's what i am using now.  i used to use pypanel--it is nicer looking, but wouldn't always load.
[09:19] <macogw> Punkunity: but anyway to get the ipod set up to connect with it, go settings  > configure amarok
[09:19] <ajax4> crolle17: If its just a few small files I would e-mail then from your windows image to an e-mail account that you can check from Linux. Samba is a pain to get set up, at least for me and I have done is several times before.
[09:19] <Punkunity> no songs in ipod and none on computer, will download some now
[09:19] <xushi> jujimufu: can you pastebin me your /etc/nsswitch.conf please so i can compare ?
[09:19] <macogw> Punkunity: then click on the left where it says "media devices"
[09:19] <macogw> Punkunity: and if its plugged in you can try "autodetect devices"
[09:19] <Punkunity> ok ok
[09:20] <klasrudian> FakeOutdoorsman, pypanel i just used a little bit, still buggy you say?
[09:20] <macogw> Punkunity: if that doesnt work use "add device" and tell it it's an Apple iPod Media Device (where it says to select a plugin)
[09:20] <Punkunity> said no nnew media devices found try something then something about KDE
[09:20] <jujimufu> xushi: lol, you can just google for that -> http://tinyurl.com/32eb77
[09:20] <crolle17> ajax4, o.k. this time i will e-mail it, but for the future i have to use samba, i think. you have a good link?
[09:20] <midgewa> johnt; correction of myself, you need to restart xorg for beryl to work... to do so, log out and hit [ctrl+alt+backspace]
[09:20] <macogw> Punkunity: pick the "add device" thing instead of autodetect
[09:20] <Shrimpy_> have you tired songbird?
[09:20] <macogw> Punkunity: and tell it it's an Apple iPod
[09:21] <jujimufu> xushi: the only difference between that one and my file is that my file has hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return]  dns mdns4
[09:21] <oldude67> hey i have a blind friend that wants to use linux but his screen reader wont work any suggestions?
[09:21] <macogw> Punkunity: tell it it's called "My IPod" or whtever
[09:21] <FakeOutdoorsman> klasrudian: maybe buggy. probably my errors though.  besides, fspanel is smaller--probably.
[09:21] <Punkunity> ok ok
[09:21] <ajax4> crolle17: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/11/20/207251     try that one. Also look for a program called vmware-mount which will do what you want.
[09:21] <Punkunity> did it
[09:21] <jujimufu> oldude67: tell him to buy a braille screen...
[09:21] <xushi> thanks jujimufu. last one, what about /etc/pam.d/common-session ?
[09:21] <gehel_> hello all ! I'm trying to make an iPod with hfsplus partition work. It automagically mounted, but readonly. How can I make it rw ?
[09:21] <macogw> Punkunity: then go to your desktop and right click the iPod symbol, hit properties, click on the "volume" tab, and copy that mountpoint
[09:22] <midgewa> theJokercard; did some research, there is another dock program called kiba-dock that is somehow connected to beryl
[09:22] <jujimufu> xushi: here: session required        pam_unix.so
[09:22] <jujimufu> session optional        pam_foreground.so
[09:22] <midgewa> theJokercard; http://www.kiba-dock.org/
[09:22] <Lopi> hi... i was installed beryl but it dont work...i have ati mobility radeon 7500 without accelerate  and i dont have Direct Rendering... im using open driver... can yiu help me to start beryl?
[09:22] <macogw> gehel_: you have to connect it to a mac and use the "disk utility" and turn off journaling on the ipod
[09:23] <klasrudian> FakeOutdoorsman, he he he well what i remeber of pypanel was it's tendensy to just wanish when it felt like it, and programs that not docking on to it...
[09:23] <midgewa> Lopi, did u restart your computer? or at least xorg?
[09:23] <macogw> Lopi: go to #ubuntu-effects
[09:23] <gehel_> macogw: ok, i'll try that. thanks !
[09:23] <johnt> midgewa; HAH! You were right I am blown away this is neat thanks for your help !!! :-)))
[09:23] <midgewa> johnt; no worries
[09:23] <fsckit> anyone here use qemu and had any problems with cd installs?
[09:23] <Shrimpy_> oldude67: does it plug in via usb?  (sorry i'm not sure what a screen reader is)
[09:23] <Punkunity> now there are 2 drop down boxes with several possible labels at the top
[09:24] <jujimufu> midgewa: so, to get this straight, what happened on your pc when you plugged in your printer?
[09:24] <jujimufu> midgewa: because I plug my printer in (it is on) and nothing happens.
[09:24] <xushi> i think i need to uninstall/reinstall PAM here
[09:24] <ajax4> oldude67: what is a screen reader?
[09:24] <oldude67> shrimpy: its a program that reads the screen for you
[09:24] <macogw> Punkunity: you might actually wanna leave the "mount point" thing alone on amarok and see if it works without it
[09:24] <macogw> Punkunity: on what window?
[09:24] <macogw> Shrimpy_: for deaf people
[09:24] <Lopi> migeva:yes
[09:24] <Shrimpy_> oldude67: ok, is he running linux now? and the screen reader is not working?
[09:24] <Punkunity> oh i thin k amarok froze while folowwing you instructuions
[09:24] <midgewa> jujimufu; nothing happened when i 'just plugged it in', i had to go system>admin>printers and added it, then it detected it, showed me the list of drivers, and from there.. it just worked
[09:25] <Lopi> midgewa:yes
[09:25] <ajax4> oldude67: It's a program that runs on Windows?
[09:25] <oldude67> yes
[09:25] <oldude67> ajax4: yes
[09:25] <Punkunity> it wont even close
[09:25] <ajax4> oldude67: I'm almost certain Linux has an equivalent program. Lemme see what I can find.
[09:25] <Shrimpy_> macogw: i think it's for blind people not deaf
[09:25] <Punkunity> and on the media devices window
[09:25] <oldude67> ajax4: thanks...
[09:25] <midgewa> Lopi, hmmm strange, is beryl selected as the window manager?
[09:25] <macogw> Shrimpy_: hahha er yeah
[09:25] <macogw> oops
[09:25] <macogw> deaf is gally :p
[09:25] <bradf0rdX> Excuse me, after you cd something how do you back out of it?
[09:26] <macogw> bradf0rdX:  cd ..
[09:26] <moDumass> hey all, what is cool and can be done with bluetooth?
[09:26] <Shrimpy_> macogw: lol
[09:26] <xushi> does anyone know the package name for PAM ?
[09:26] <moDumass> i have a USB bluetooth dongle, so far, just sending files to my Mobil
[09:26] <bradf0rdX> macogw, Like, to compile
[09:26] <crabgrass> 7.04 killed my 5-button mouse... anyone know how to get it working again?
[09:26] <Punkunity> how do you close a fozen program
[09:26] <sanityx> bradf0rdX, cd ..
[09:26] <macogw> bradf0rdX: to backup a directory you use cd ..
[09:26] <macogw> Punkunity: go to system > admin
[09:26] <bradf0rdX> macogw, omg, thx
[09:26] <macogw> Punkunity: then system monitor
[09:26] <macogw> Punkunity: and close it from there
[09:27] <FreeMan> Hi all
[09:27] <ajax4> oldude67: Yeah, Ubuntu Linux has a built-in screenreader. You go to the menu and click System > Preferences > Accessibility > Assistive Technology Preferences and just turn it on. From then on it should read all the window text to you.
[09:27] <bradf0rdX> macogw, what's cd stand for anyhow?
[09:27] <ke4nt> yasr?  screen reader?
[09:27] <Punkunity> ok shoukd we start over
[09:27] <Lopi> midgewa: i dont know how make beryl as default window manager
[09:27] <sanityx> bradf0rdX, I think its change directory
[09:27] <jujimufu> midgewa: hm...
[09:27] <dirtydel> where can i get all the commands
[09:27] <bradf0rdX> sanityx, oic
[09:27] <jujimufu> midgewa: I'll try again. So, you're using gnome or kde?
[09:27] <midgewa> Lopi; is the beryl logo showing in your system tray?
[09:27] <miki2> where can I find to fix fiesty because he does not  mount hard disk partitions?
[09:27] <macogw> Lopi: go to system > preferences > session
[09:27] <lgc> Where can I get the latest java things from the Ubuntu site? Can't seem to find it...
[09:28] <midgewa> jujimufu gnome, i think :S
[09:28] <macogw> Lopi: and add "beryl-manager" to the startup tab
[09:28] <midgewa> jujimufu whatever is default with feisty
[09:28] <SoftIce> hi, what package is termcap undr, I can't find it with apt-cache search ?
[09:28] <oldude67> he said he tried that and it just does text
[09:28] <crdlb> !find termcap | SoftIce
[09:28] <macogw> Lopi: then the little jewel will always be there and if you always shut down with beryl running it should always start up with that too
[09:28] <Igor10k> hi every1
[09:28] <jujimufu> midgewa: well, there's Ubuntu and Kubuntu :P one is gnome, the other is kde
[09:28] <ubotu> softice: File termcap found in bash-doc, mindi, minicom, mlterm-common, p3nfs (and 1 others)
[09:28] <jujimufu> midgewa: so, you're pretty new in linux :P
[09:28] <ajax4> oldude67: I will try it out. Hold on.
[09:28] <oldude67> ajax4: he said he tried that and it just reads text not desktop
[09:28] <midgewa> jujimufu well im Ubuntu
[09:28] <equilibrix> anybody developing Java applets in Eclipse? I cant get Applet Viewer to work..
[09:28] <Lopi> ok... i will try... wait please
[09:28] <ajax4> oldude67: what do you mean "just reads text not desktop"?
[09:29] <SoftIce> thanks
[09:29] <crabgrass> 7.04 killed my 5-button mouse... anyone know how to get it working again?
[09:29] <miki2> please I need help
[09:29] <oldude67> ajax: i dont know its what he said...me myself i see fine.
[09:29] <SoftIce> configure: error: *** termcap support not found
[09:29] <Lopi> what is the command to start beryl when i want add it to startub?
[09:29] <crabgrass> !mouse
[09:29] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[09:29] <SoftIce> pbx:/usr/src/bristuff-0.4.0-test1/asterisk# dpkg -l | grep minicom
[09:29] <SoftIce> ii  minicom                2.2-5                           friendly menu driven serial communication pr
[09:29] <Lopi> of sesssion prefernces
[09:29] <macogw> miki2: it doesnt mount any at all?
[09:29] <lgc> !java
[09:29] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[09:29] <ajax4> oldude67: Well if you don't know then I wouldn't know either. Has it been a while since he tried?
[09:30] <miki2> where can I find  how to fix fiesty because he does not  mount hard disk partitions?
[09:30] <macogw> Lopi: beryl-manager
[09:30] <Punkunity> so can i USB 2 ipods of different types at the same time, and do i have to do this whole process everytime i want to put songs into the ipod?
[09:30] <macogw> Lopi: thatll start the manager thing in the notification area
[09:30] <macogw> Punkunity: idk about at the same time
[09:30] <oldude67> ajax4: i think so.....but ill have to get with him and see what hes talking about. and get back with you
[09:30] <macogw> Lopi: if you shut down with beryl being the one you chose in the manager, then it should be the one that starts next time you boot
[09:30] <bradf0rdX> I just dl'd Lm_sensor, and it doesn't do anything when I "./configure"/"make"/"make install"... it said something about "make user" so I did that and it said stop.... am I man handling Ubuntu? I'm a huge nub
[09:31] <Lopi> :)
[09:31] <Lopi> cool
[09:31] <miki2> this chanel is mades
[09:31] <Punkunity> idk? and why does amarok keep freezing, i cant save my changes or anything
[09:31] <miki2> lol
[09:31] <Lopi> i will try... i will be here for a moment
[09:31] <ajax4> oldude67: Accessibility is a huge issue for Gnome and Ubuntu, so I'm certain that it has what he needs...especially if its been a while since he's tried it out. They've improved it immensely over the years.
[09:31] <SoftIce> crdlb: any idea where I can get termcap, as you can see it doesn't work with the minicom install?
[09:31] <Lopi> i can only logout or only restart?
[09:31] <bradf0rdX> I just dl'd Lm_sensor, and it doesn't do anything when I "./configure"/"make"/"make install"... it said something about "make user" so I did that and it said stop.... am I man handling Ubuntu? I'm a huge nub
[09:32] <oldude67> ajax4: thanks...ill look into it..
[09:32] <crdlb> SoftIce: I don't have a clue what termcap is, I was just utilizing ubotu for you :)
[09:32] <benj1> hello everyone... i just had a bit of a problem ... i set up this pc using ubuntu feisty and its working well .. so well that i wanted to switch it to my better monitor (22" DVI widescreen vs 17" CRT) but when i powered down and plugged the better monitor in (as i set the PC up using the 17" CRT in an VGA port) and powered back up again I was unable to see anything. How do i activate my DVI port as the default port for a monitor?
[09:32] <macogw> Lopi: either
[09:32] <sanityx> Oh man, I can't believe VMware Server is in the repos now. That's so amazing.
[09:32] <SoftIce> there should be a package called termcap compat
[09:33] <ajax4> bradf0rdX: configure/make/install is for building your own software from the source code. It is extremely advanced and not at all for beginners. You should install software from the repository only.
[09:33] <macogw> Punkunity: i dont know why its freezing.  is your computer oldish?
[09:33] <FakeOutdoorsman> klasrudian: the Toughbook is now using 21x less memory than my Feisty desktop.
[09:33] <macogw> ajax4: ok, not EXTREMELY advanced, but too annoying for anyone that's not actually going to modify the code to bother with
[09:33] <crabgrass> 7.04 killed my 5-button mouse... anyone know how to get it working again?
[09:33] <Punkunity> pentium 4 with hyperthreading 512 RAM...is that tyoo old now?
[09:33] <Jaymac> Both my friend and I have run Ubuntu on our laptops.... and since last night we can't connect to our WPA enabled network... we can still see it, but it doesn't connect.. however without security enabled, it connects fine... Both on 7.04
[09:33] <Punkunity> like less than 3 yrs old
[09:34] <bradf0rdX> ajax4, what's that mean? What's a repository?
[09:34] <bullgard4> My file /var/log/kernlog.0 lists the line "May  1 06:57:47 MD97600 kernel: [5.036000]  swsusp: Resume From Partition 8:9." What does [ 5.036000]  stand for?
[09:34] <sanityx> bradf0rdX, When you do apt-get install packagename, it retrieves that package from a repository
[09:34] <macogw> bradf0rdX: go to system > admin > synaptic package manager
[09:34] <ajax4> bradf0rdX: it means its a huge library of software already build that you can install with a few clicks of the mouse.
[09:34] <Punkunity> i think i got it applied and working now how do i transfer songs...
[09:34] <mogydy> hi, i want to make an ubuntu  poster to stick on my window, but the company that does the print does not allow me to use the ubuntu logo (copyright), i though that i could use it for personal use. does anybody know where i can ask for permission to use it? thanks
[09:34] <sanityx> bullgard4, Nobody here is going to know that, but google might.
[09:34] <macogw> bradf0rdX: you can mark checkboxes and hit apply and a whole bunch of programs can download and install automatically
[09:34] <macogw> mogydy: you'd have to email the sabdfl
[09:35] <Jaymac> have there been any recent wireless issues?  the only thing i installed last night was the nautilus-open-terminal package...
[09:35] <bullgard4> sanityx: I did google before I posted here.
[09:35] <macogw> Punkunity: youll have to click around and figure that one out yourself. i dont use it
[09:35] <sanityx> k
[09:35] <ajax4> macogw: He should use add/remove if he's a complete noob, don't you think?
[09:35] <crabgrass> 7.04 killed my 5-button mouse... anyone know how to get it working again?
[09:35] <sambaa> i download 7.0.4 desktop where is md5sum to check
[09:35] <Punkunity> ok cool i think i got it thx, going to bed now its late, gotta go to work make the duckets
[09:35] <mogydy> macogw: sabdfl? please tell me how do i contact it/them
[09:35] <Jaymac> sambaa it is on the server...
[09:35] <bradf0rdX> OIC!!! I would have got it if you said package manager :/ I'm so nub it hurts
[09:36] <Punkunity> thx for your help macogw
[09:36] <macogw> mogydy: by sabdfl, i mean mark shuttleworth.  i'm pretty sure the copyright crap just all says that if its non-profit and not used to represent non-ubuntu stuff they dont care
[09:36] <sambaa> where can u pls give me link
[09:36] <macogw> ajax4: synaptic's not any harder to use..
[09:36] <macogw> ajax4: its just got a longer list
[09:36] <Shrimpy_> crabgrass: let me check up on it. give me a min or two
[09:36] <macogw> mogydy: sabdfl = self appointed benevolent dictator for life = mark shuttleworth
[09:36] <ajax4> macogw: well plus it leaves out all the libraries, etc.
[09:36] <crabgrass> Shrimpy_: thanks, brb
[09:37] <macogw> ajax4: ok yeah thats true...
[09:37] <ajax4> macogw: can be confusing for beginners.
[09:37] <Jaymac> does anyone know if any recent updates have hosed wpa support?
[09:37] <LinuxHelp> Can anyone read this?
[09:37] <macogw> ajax4: i just use it for searching cuz the synaptic search is a lot nicer than apt-cache search
[09:37] <macogw> LinuxHelp: yes...
[09:37] <Jaymac> LinuxHelp:  yes
[09:37] <bradf0rdX> Well then does anyone know of an application that can tell me how much ram I have where???
[09:37] <LinuxHelp> kthx
[09:37] <macogw> LinuxHelp: why couldnt we read your text....
[09:37] <macogw> bradf0rdX: what do you mean "where"?
[09:37] <Zilus> anyone knows, why i can see networks using $ sudo iwlist eth1 scan, under ubuntu edgy, and not see anything under net-manager-gnome
[09:38] <ajax4> LinuxHelp: Do you have a question?
[09:38] <Zilus> its a bcm43xx under ndiswrapper
[09:38] <macogw> bradf0rdX: if you go to system > admin > system manager it's like the task manager
[09:38] <LinuxHelp> ajax4, Thats was my only question :)
[09:38] <Shrimpy_> crabgrass: ok just give me a message when your back
[09:38] <jujimufu> midgewa: hey, I got it to work! :D
[09:38] <midgewa> Does anyone here run kiba-dock? or know how to? :S
[09:38] <macogw> Zilus: why are you using ndiswrapper?
[09:38] <sanityx> Is there a way to search apt/synaptic by repository?
[09:38] <robert_> so
[09:38] <midgewa> jujimufu; congrats? was it as easy as i said?
[09:38] <sanityx> Like display everything in the commercial repo for example.
[09:38] <robert_> can my friend run a vanilla kernel?
[09:38] <mogydy> macogw: thx, i think i will try other print service providers, i think that Mark is too busy to deal with a small isuee like this :)
[09:38] <sambaa> Jaymac: can u pls give me link
[09:38] <macogw> Zilus: you dont need ndiswrapper for that.  NM doesnt always play nice with ndiswrapper
[09:38] <Rat409> bradf0rdX: try free -m or top in gnome-terminal
[09:38] <Zilus> macd, because bcm cutter didnt work
[09:39] <Zilus> the led came on, but not working
[09:39] <sanityx> Zilus, You mean fwcutter?
[09:39] <SithToast> i have a question about fixing error 22 AFTER grub is loaded
[09:39] <dieh> hi
[09:39] <sambaa> who is bot
[09:39] <bradf0rdX> RAT409, like "Free -m" or "Free top"?
[09:39] <dieh> where can i get help for installing ubuntu
[09:39] <jujimufu> midgewa: thing is, my printer was not psc2300, but deskjet D2360. For some reason, though, on Windows it shows up as HP PSC 2300, and it works properly. So, when I tried to install it here too, it DID show me PSC 2300 connected on the USB drive, but when I chose the PSC2300 driver, it didn't work. So, I chose the Desktop D2300 driver instead, and it worked! :D
[09:39] <odat> hi everyone
[09:39] <Zilus> sanityx, yes
[09:39] <benj1> how do you change the default monitor device to DVI from VGA ports
[09:39] <Rat409> bradf0rdX: free -m another command= top
[09:39] <macogw> bradf0rdX: just "free -m" will show how much is being used in megabytes
[09:39] <odat> anyone know about /proc  ?
[09:39] <sanityx> Zilus, Don't bother, ndiswrapper works great.
[09:40] <macogw> bradf0rdX: "top" will show the top-memory-using programs
[09:40] <sambaa> i am new to ubbutu i was using suse what is change in this two distro
[09:40] <Jaymac> sambaa: x86?
[09:40] <dieh> where can i get help for installing ubuntu
[09:40] <Zilus> sanityx, but I cant get it to work
[09:40] <midgewa> jujimufu, lol sounds simple enough :P
[09:40] <sambaa> yes
[09:40] <Lathiat> benj1: most video cards autodetect that
[09:40] <sanityx> o
[09:40] <ajax4> dieh: Here. What is your question?
[09:40] <Zilus> sanityx, i see networks in command line
[09:40] <sanityx> Zilus, then it works.
[09:40] <dieh> ajax4 can i message u private?
[09:40] <Zilus> but not with network-manager-gnome
[09:40] <Zilus> :(
[09:40] <Jaymac> sambaa: http://mirror.gregstar.at/ubuntu/7.04/MD5SUMS
[09:40] <Zilus> so I cant conect
[09:40] <Jaymac> there you go
[09:40] <Zilus> connect
[09:41] <sambaa> thaks
[09:41] <sambaa> thanks
[09:41] <ajax4> dieh: I'm not registered so I don't think you can. Just ask your question in main channel in case someone else can help also.
[09:41] <Zilus> sanityx, any clue
[09:41] <sanityx> Zilus, ubuntu1501.blogspot.com has a bcm tutorial
[09:41] <benj1> Lathiat: i would have thought that as well but mine didnt ...
[09:41] <bradf0rdX> macogw, Well, I want something to tell me if there are free RAM slots or even what type of ram, is there an application that can do this?
[09:41] <dieh> i am looking to install ubuntu and have no idea. i have windows xp installed already. what do i do. do i partition the harddrive first, if yes, how do i do that
[09:41] <Lathiat> benj1: what kind of card?
[09:41] <macogw> bradf0rdX: open the computer and look inside
[09:41] <ajax4> dieh: Have you already made a bootable Ubuntu CD?
[09:42] <benj1> GF 7300GT
[09:42] <dieh> no, is that the first step
[09:42] <ajax4> dieh: Do you know how to download the Ubuntu cd image (iso file) and burn it?
[09:42] <benj1> whats the way that i can clone a window and all that kinda stuff
[09:42] <dieh> sure, i dont have a cd at the moment, i can download it from the website and burn it
[09:42] <bradf0rdX> I don't want to... this thing's packed full of wires and shit.... owell, off i go
[09:43] <dieh> what do i do after that
[09:43] <jarrett> dieh: yes, the cd should have all the tools you need to partition
[09:43] <sambaa> what is major technical changes in suse and ubnutu
[09:43] <rohan> hi .. anyone received the shipit feisty cd's yet ?
[09:43] <LinuxHelp> dieh, reboot with the cd in your cdrom drive
[09:43] <dieh> oh ok , would i have to install windows after i partition. i dont have the windows cd anymore
[09:43] <ajax4> dieh: Just boot your computer from that CD, after it boots double click the "install" icon...then follow the instructions. The biggest part is how to partition the drives. Does your windows disc have free space on it?
[09:44] <Shrimpy_> rohan: are you a loco team? or did you request a shipment
[09:44] <dieh> yeah, i have about 32gigs free
[09:44] <jarrett> dieh: no, you can dual boot without reinstalling
[09:44] <macogw> partitioning is step 4
[09:44] <dieh> cool thanks
[09:44] <LinuxHelp> dieh, you *might* have to reinstall windows, but hopefully not
[09:44] <dieh> i will download it tomorrow and put it on a dc
[09:44] <dieh> cd
[09:44] <ajax4> dieh: Perfect. The Ubuntu installer will automatically resize your windows partition to make room for the Linux partition.
[09:44] <dieh> i download from here http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download right?
[09:45] <macogw> i think it's easiest to partition THEN install both
[09:45] <macogw> dieh: better to tell them torrent
[09:45] <macogw> the servers are still being pounded and really slow
[09:45] <macogw> torrents are much faster
[09:45] <robert_> bah
[09:45] <dieh> i have no idea what is a torrent
[09:45] <robert_> nobody seems to be paying much attention to me
[09:45] <rohan> Shrimpy_: request a shipment
[09:45] <LinuxHelp> dieh, then go with the link you posted
[09:45] <macogw> dieh: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[09:45] <dieh> cool thanks
[09:46] <macogw> it's a P2P thing
[09:46] <macogw> you need something like bittorrent
[09:46] <Shrimpy_> rohan: yeah, they take a while. just torrent it if you have a fast connection.
[09:46] <dieh> oh ok
[09:46] <Dell-Net> utorrent
[09:46] <macogw> but it will download faster than the server will
[09:46] <macogw> or azureus
[09:46] <Shrimpy_> rohan: i think they take overr four weeks or something
[09:46] <macogw> Shrimpy_: shipits?  6 weeks
[09:46] <ajax4> dieh: The biggest hurdle for new users is partitioning. Let it guide you through the partitioning, and just indicate that you want to have the installer resize your windows partition to make room for Linux.
[09:46] <Dell-Net> dieh u use windows now right ? try utorrent no install just run
[09:47] <rohan> Shrimpy_: on, i am already on ubuntu.. i am just curious to see the cover artwork, and the cd artwork :D
[09:47] <jarrett> robert_: can you repeat your question please
[09:47] <zkeeton> Hi: I was wondering if anyone knows when the CNR Warehouse is supposed to be released (Not that I am a "excited" about it, but I thought it was supposed to be released with 7.04, and it obviously wasnlt)
[09:47] <hikyuu_> -yawns-
[09:47] <Shrimpy_> rohan: haha i'm the same way
[09:47] <robert_> jarrett: sure
[09:47] <hikyuu_> hullo..
[09:47] <hikyuu_> lol
[09:47] <macogw> zkeeton: i dont think we've been told yet
[09:47] <Shrimpy_> macogw: thanks for the correcton
[09:47] <robert_> [02:08:29]  <Leo Kitten> But I want to know what I'll break if I use a stock 2.6.21
[09:47] <hikyuu_> finally got Ubuntu and Beryl working, now just gotta spend a day or  so trying to get games to run
[09:47] <hikyuu_> lol
[09:47] <RichiH> is there a netinstall CD of ubuntu?
[09:48] <zkeeton> hrrmmm....yeah, I guess I assumed it would be launched with Fawn, and was like...hrmmm...where's the difference.  lol
[09:48] <ajax4> gotta go...later guys
[09:48] <RichiH> my problem is, that the pc i am trying to install kubuntu on seems not to cope well with _any_ cd i burn
[09:48] <macogw> RichiH: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[09:48] <idefixx> i've just seen a video where a guy is showing of beryl nothing new there, but he has got this very cool looking 'shortcut bar' what the hell is that?
[09:48] <hikyuu_> feels good bieng back on linux, heh, i started out originally on slackware
[09:48] <macogw> RichiH: try wubi
[09:48] <RichiH> i suspect that it is a kernel vs cdrom issue
[09:48] <rohinton> RichiH: I have that same problem, :-( dell 260...
[09:48] <dieh> thanks ajax, linuxhelp, jarrett, macogw, dell-net
[09:48] <macogw> RichiH: it lets you install ubuntu from inside windows
[09:48] <dieh> see ya
[09:48] <robert_> jarrett: now don't go leaving on me
[09:49] <RichiH> macogw: oh?
[09:49] <CheshireViking> over the last few days I've been struggling trying to use a live cd on a Toshiba Equium laptop with no success (Fiesty Ubuntu & Kubuntu, Edgy Ubuntu, Dapper Ubuntu) with little success, the only one that would start was Dapper, all of the others crash during startup - Ubuntu with a gnome daemon error, kubuntu with an error at a similar point, dapper starts & seems to work, but is excessively slow - firefox trys to start, but after 1
[09:49] <hikyuu_> Idefixx i forget the name, but its an old desktop feature that you could DL for windows
[09:49] <CheshireViking> 5 minutes is still not on screen.  I can get to a command line using noapic nolapic boot parameter's, but beyond that, the basic vesa driver doesn't succeed to startx. Last night I tried Mandriva One which started up o, full gnome display, wireless worked, internet worked, does anybody know of a significant difference between Mandriva One Spring edition and Ubuntu that I could try changing in Ubuntu to get it working?
[09:49] <jarrett> robert_: im not sure, looking it up now
[09:49] <robert_> heh k
[09:49] <macogw> RichiH: http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[09:49] <dieh> by the way, is ubuntu a south african product?
[09:49] <rohan> RichiH: yes, there is .. hang on
[09:49] <sanityx> God I love Canonical.
[09:49] <Catball> I had a Feisty Ubuntu question.
[09:49] <hikyuu_> i just like running Beryl, feels real human and functional
[09:49] <RichiH> macogw: just found it, thanks
[09:49] <rohinton> robert_: You should be able to download the kernel and build and test it...
[09:49] <idefixx> hikyuu_: but is nothing beryl specific? or is it a gnome tool?
[09:49] <Catball> This concerns the boot prompt of the LiveCD, and I am blind, relying on the keybaored. So, please. Don't give me instructions that say "click on this or that." My question is,
[09:50] <robert_> that's what I advised her to do
[09:50] <robert_> ah
[09:50] <robert_> here she is
[09:50] <hikyuu_> idefixx explain Beryl specific?
[09:50] <RichiH> macogw: wait, will wubi actually do a real install or will it have linux run within windows?
[09:50] <idefixx> hikyuu_: plugin
[09:50] <robert_> anyway
[09:51] <Catball> Does Ubuntu's boot prompt support cheatcodes? Like: What if I wanted Ubuntu to just log me into a textual console by default on the liveCD instead of the Gnome desktop?
[09:51] <robert_> it's really for Ashiki though
[09:51] <rohan> RichiH: real install
[09:51] <jarrett> robert_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42138 "I've only done one kernel backport, and that was for Warty. It was such a painful and disgusting job that I'd never want to do it again. Backporting kernels is not a smart idea."
[09:51] <hikyuu_> idefixx, well, a couple of tiny things he has in the video were just GUI tools you can hunt and download, i think one is like Kiba or something like that, Beryl is a Desktop manager basically, so its features comprise all of the regular UI features, and Emerald is a theme manager
[09:51] <macogw> RichiH: it makes a dual boot. it can't do it as the only os though
[09:52] <idefixx> hikyuu_: i know what beryl is :) but kiba sound about right.. i think i heard that before.
[09:52] <macogw> RichiH: it makes ubuntu run on the ntfs partition you already have, but you dont boot into windows first to get to it then run vmware or anything like that
[09:52] <hikyuu_> idefixx excuse me for not having a more detailed answer, but im a rather big noob at linux..
[09:52] <idefixx> hikyuu_: thx
[09:52] <hikyuu_> ^^;
[09:52] <hikyuu_> lol
[09:52] <sanityx> Catball, its not knoppix so there are no cheatcodes, however there are some availible boot options. If you'd like a text mode install, please download the alternate-install cd.
[09:52] <hikyuu_> i think they talk about all the extra stuff on Youtube
[09:52] <Trixsey> Guide to install the ATI prop drivers on Feisty?
[09:52] <Trixsey> I dont remember that argument you needed to unpack :/
[09:52] <RichiH> macogw, rohan: so i take it there is not minimal image of a size between, say 20 and 200 MB which i can boot from and which will install a minimal system?
[09:53] <crdlb> Trixsey: what card?
[09:53] <Trixsey> X700
[09:53] <RichiH> preferably from an usb stick
[09:53] <Trixsey> Radeon
[09:53] <macogw> RichiH: there is one. i linked it earlier
[09:53] <hikyuu_> sigh, i just wish i could get BF2142 to work with Cedega 6
[09:53] <sanityx> Trixsey, If you're trying to install the proprietary drivers just use System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager
[09:53] <crdlb> Trixsey: system>administration>restricted manager
[09:53] <hikyuu_> lol
[09:53] <sanityx> Trixsey, It does it automatically for you.
[09:53] <kadakas> How can I tell nautilus to show files starting with the "_" symbol to be shown at the start of the filelist? Currently it just ignores the "_" character and aligns the file by the first alphabetical character found
[09:53] <hikyuu_> it starts, but then dies
[09:53] <jarrett> robert_: so it looks like the best solution to using an older kernel is using the release that came with it to prevent breaking things
[09:53] <macogw> RichiH: go here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot but you said that no cd you burned would work
[09:53] <crdlb> Trixsey: note that your card has /some/ 3d support with the free drivers (enough for beryl+aigl)
[09:54] <crdlb> aiglx*
[09:54] <robert_> what will break if you use a stock kernel?
[09:54] <sanityx> hikyuu_, Is bf2142 on the cedega 6 compatibility list?
[09:54] <macogw> RichiH: the iso links are here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[09:54] <crdlb> but for gaming you need the prop. drivers
[09:54] <Catball> Is there any nox boot options? I don't require a text-mode install. What I am trying to get the CD to do is to boot into a command-line terminal.
[09:54] <hikyuu_> sanityx: yes
[09:54] <Catball> Instead of launching Gnome.
[09:54] <hikyuu_> sanityx: it even has a GDDB for it
[09:54] <sanityx> heh
[09:54] <Trixsey> xorg-driver-fglrx is this the open source driver?
[09:54] <macogw> Catball: can you ctrl alt f1 then kill gdm?
[09:54] <crdlb> Trixsey: no that's the prop. one
[09:54] <rohinton> robert_: I think it depends with what tool chain it was built with - if you are talking a pre-built kernel.
[09:54] <RichiH> macogw: yah, just found it, thanks again :)
[09:55] <Catball> Yeah, I could. Problem is,
[09:55] <hikyuu_> sanityx: its just something to do with my X.org configuration, since SL complains about it too
[09:55] <crdlb> Trixsey: the OSS driver is included by default (xserver-xorg-video-ati)
[09:55] <sanityx> Catball, Not that I know of, however there may be.
[09:55] <Catball> If I  installed Ubuntu onto the hard-drive, I'd have to come up with a permanent way of making sure GDM never would launch.
[09:55] <hikyuu_> sanityx: apparently, even tho i set it to 24bit, i still cant achieve 32bit
[09:55] <sanityx> hikyuu_, oo
[09:55] <crdlb> Trixsey: but if you enable the prop. driver, use the restricted manager, it will make your life easier
[09:55] <LinuxHelp> apt-get remove gdm?
[09:55] <jarrett> robert_: im guessing anything that was written with newer kernel features in mind, could be many things, sorry im not to sure on the specifics and cant really be of much help on that
[09:55] <hikyuu_> sanityx: wich might explain the problem
[09:56] <alvedaro> so to automate something in Linux "cronjobs" are used, but can I setup something to run every 5 or 10 *seconds* ?
[09:56] <JaeSharp> LinuxHelp, arg! be careful with that <g>
[09:56] <Catball> Okay, then I have a second question.
[09:56] <Catball> That is
[09:56] <hikyuu_> sanityx: i might also just be a total retard with linux
[09:56] <hikyuu_> ^^;
[09:56] <JaeSharp> oops, wrong channel <g>
[09:56] <hikyuu_> lol
[09:56] <crdlb> alvedaro: you could use watch
[09:56] <idefixx> hikyuu_: yep it was kiba dock i was looking for
[09:56] <crdlb> watch -n5 command
[09:56] <hikyuu_> thanks idefixx, now i can find it XD
[09:56] <hikyuu_> lol
[09:56] <robert_> rohinton: what about with feisty?
[09:56] <Catball> Is there a root password for Ubuntu's LiveCD? I know I have tot ype sudo all the itme for a root command. I'm wondering how to log myself in as root, if I ever need root access. It is rather annoying typing things like
[09:57] <alvedaro> crdlb, watch *watches* a process AFAIK... I wanna append some text to a file every 10 seconds
[09:57] <LinuxHelp> sudo su
[09:57] <macogw> Catball: why dont you do a server install?
[09:57] <macogw> Catball: the server install doesnt come with gnome
[09:57] <Layer8> hi there!
[09:57] <crdlb> alvedaro: no it runs a command every n seconds
[09:57] <crdlb> any command
[09:57] <alvedaro> crdlb, ok I'll check it :)
[09:57] <Layer8> can someone help me with compiling problems?
[09:57] <alvedaro> crdlb, you saved my life  , thanks :)
[09:58] <hikyuu_> idefixx: link? syntax apt get command?
[09:58] <macogw> Layer8: what are you compiling and why?
[09:58] <hikyuu_> :3
[09:58] <crdlb> Catball: no but you can use sudo -i    for a root prompt
[09:58] <macogw> Layer8: you shouldnt need to compile anything
[09:58] <Catball> I could. What I would probably need to now is:
[09:58] <idefixx> hikyuu_: feisty?
[09:58] <LinuxHelp> Catball, sudo su, then passwd if you want
[09:58] <Layer8> macogw hi! im compiling xmblackberry...
[09:58] <hikyuu_> idefixx: yes im using fiesty, but i could use kiba dock
[09:58] <whine> Hi. I'm an ubuntu newbie. I'm using feisty fawn. I can't get the page-up and page-down keys to work on my dell keyboard with the terminal application. it works with firefox but not terminal. shift-pageup also doesn't. but if i turn on numlock, then shift-pageup works.
[09:58] <Catball> Does the server installation come with SSHd? I found the desktop didn't, I had to sudo apt-get install openssh-server.
[09:59] <hikyuu_> lol robert
[09:59] <jpjacobs> whine, for terminals, use shift-pageup/down
[09:59] <rohinton> robert_: Maybe do a second install and then replace the kernel there... that way you have something to fall back on
[09:59] <phy2> Catball, maybe the server install is what you want, it has no gui from my understanding
[09:59] <dimebar> Catball: I think you need to do that on the server too (afaik)
[09:59] <idefixx> hikyuu_: well no debs until now Trevios got it only for edgy so im still looking.
[09:59] <erikja> !nvidia
[09:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:59] <robert_> rohinton: that's what I suggested Ashiki do
[09:59] <hikyuu_> idefixx: blast
[09:59] <hikyuu_> lol
[10:00] <whine> jpjacobs: yes, i tried that. shift-pageup/down doesn't work. only numlock+shift+pageup/down. in which case it doesn't work in firefox
[10:00] <CheshireViking> over the last few days I've been struggling trying to use a live cd on a Toshiba Equium laptop with no success (Fiesty Ubuntu & Kubuntu, Edgy Ubuntu, Dapper Ubuntu) with little success, the only one that would start was Dapper, all of the others crash during startup - Ubuntu with a gnome daemon error, kubuntu with an error at a similar point, dapper starts & seems to work, but is excessively slow - firefox trys to start, but after 1
[10:00] <CheshireViking> 5 minutes is still not on screen.  I can get to a command line using noapic nolapic boot parameter's, but beyond that, the basic vesa driver doesn't succeed to startx. Last night I tried Mandriva One which started up o, full gnome display, wireless worked, internet worked, does anybody know of a significant difference between Mandriva One Spring edition and Ubuntu that I could try changing in Ubuntu to get it working?
[10:00] <hikyuu_> idefixx: well i didnt want it anyway >.<
[10:00] <idefixx> hikyuu_: will let you know
[10:00] <hikyuu_> lol
[10:00] <rohinton> robert_: this is probably not the right forum to ask this question... maybe ubuntu+1
[10:00] <macogw> Layer8: whats the compile problem you're having?
[10:00] <idefixx> hikyuu_: hehe
[10:00] <hikyuu_> idefixx thanks
[10:00] <hikyuu_> -plays with the cube-
[10:00] <hikyuu_> lol
[10:01] <hikyuu_> im using a dual core AMD64 4000
[10:01] <whine> is there some setting i need to set in terminal to make it behave like firefox with pageup/down
[10:01] <hikyuu_> it just eats this linux stuff up
[10:01] <hikyuu_> lol
[10:01] <rohinton> robert_: maybe also look at sidux....
[10:01] <Layer8> macogw configure works! but makes shows me errors like: expected =, ,, ;, asm or __attribute__ before * token
[10:01] <macogw> whine: pg up and pg down dont do anything in the terminal i dont think
[10:01] <hikyuu_> i wish i was a giant bucket o.o..
[10:02] <Catball> What file do I tell the kernel to autoload modules? One module I don't want to load all the time manually is the speakup_sftsyn module.
[10:02] <macogw> whine: theyre just not part of it i guess. nothing happens here either.  i think if you use the less command space bar moves you down a page
[10:02] <rohinton> robert_: I assume you want to look at new kernel features? - what's your objective? apart from fun!
[10:02] <whine> macogw: yes, that's what i see. i'd like to get shift-pageup to work without needing to turn on numlock
[10:02] <macogw> Layer8: do you have build-essential installed?
[10:02] <LinuxHelp> Isn't it /etc/modules ?
[10:02] <LinuxHelp> I'm not sure
[10:03] <Layer8> macogw yes its installes
[10:03] <Layer8> d
[10:03] <hikyuu_> idefixx: hey, while we're on the subject of fiesty, how can i get Java to work correctly? i cant get Limewire of Frostwire to run cause they think i dont have JRE, but ive installed it and checked everything
[10:03] <macogw> whine: do you have the kernel headers too?
[10:03] <sanityx> hikyuu_, Forget frostwire. Use bit torrent.
[10:04] <whine> macogw: i don't understand
[10:04] <hikyuu_> sanityx: i do :P, but i cant search for bands with torrent files
[10:04] <Catball> Uh
[10:04] <hikyuu_> sanityx: i like looking around for new material
[10:04] <macogw> hikyuu_: i think you need more repos
[10:04] <sanityx> hikyuu_, Huh? Why can't you search for bands.
[10:04] <macogw> whine: i dont think pg up and pg dn are even part of the terminal
[10:04] <sanityx> hikyuu_, Just browse the music torrents sections
[10:04] <Catball> A lot of people are putting the I before the E in Feisty. LOL
[10:04] <macogw> whine: they dont show in the menus at all
[10:04] <Catball> Making my synth say "Feesty"
[10:05] <hikyuu_> sanityx: you dont find alot of those tho :P, torrentspy does.. but thats about it for me
[10:05] <hikyuu_> macogw: ?
[10:05] <whine> macogw: i just want to make shift-pageup work without hitting numlock
[10:05] <macogw> Catball: at last year's UDS everyone was saying "feesty" cuz they were european
[10:05] <sanityx> hikyuu_, You don't have an oink account do you :-P
[10:05] <sanityx> hikyuu_, http://oink.me.uk/
[10:05] <whine> macogw: it works if i turn on numlock. that's what i would like to not do
[10:05] <hikyuu_> macogw: repoes is greek to me mate ^^; i only know a lil linux
[10:05] <macogw> hikyuu_: i dont think its in the regular ubuntu repositories
[10:06] <macogw> hikyuu_: because it's not "free software" (licensing)
[10:06] <phy2> JAVA --- I installed the 5.0 plugin and run time and it helped me with some other things
[10:06] <hikyuu_> macogw: i c
[10:06] <macogw> hikyuu_: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[10:06] <jpjacobs> whine, are you perhaps using the pageup/down on the numpad?
[10:06] <macogw> hikyuu_: then http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_v6.0_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[10:06] <hikyuu_> cool
[10:06] <whine> jpjacobs: my keyboard only has numpad. no separate pgup/down. and it works properly with firefox
[10:06] <hikyuu_> yall are helpful as hell :3 makes me feel like less of a n00b
[10:07] <hikyuu_> lol
[10:07] <idefixx> hikyuu_: no java expert but as said forget frostwire. you should also make sure to install both jre 6 and 5 (however the actual package is called)
[10:07] <phy2> 5.0 plugin is already in the install manager
[10:07] <hikyuu_> honestly, i wouldnt mind never using JRE again
[10:07] <hikyuu_> its never done me any good
[10:07] <hikyuu_> only caused stuff not to run correctly
[10:07] <hikyuu_> lol
[10:08] <whine> jpjacobs: meaning, with numlock off, pgup/down do the right thing in firefox. but not in terminal. also not shift-pageup/down. the only way to scroll in terminal is if i turn on numlock. if i do that, then it doesn't work in firefox
[10:08] <hikyuu_> :3 i love beryl.. lol, im demoing this for my folks, trying to set them up on ubuntu
[10:08] <hikyuu_> kinda the reason im trying to get limewire to work
[10:08] <oldude67> how can i find what the newest kernel is? and if feisty will add it when its stable?
[10:08] <Layer8> macogw so no further ideas?
[10:08] <hikyuu_> cause my dads too old to use Torrents
[10:08] <hikyuu_> lol
[10:08] <whine> jpjacobs: meaning, with numlock off, pgup/down do the right thing in firefox. but not in terminal. also not shift-pageup/down. the only way to scroll in terminal is if i turn on numlock. if i do that, then it doesn't work in firefox
[10:09] <macogw> oldude67: the newest is 2.6.21 i think.  its not in feisty.  feisty has 2.6.20 which was released in february.
[10:09] <macogw> oldude67: updates for non-security reasons dont usually happen because they introduce bugs
[10:09] <macogw> gutsy should have 22 or 23 though
[10:09] <sanityx> macd, fesity typically doesn't change package versions. and hpefully theyve learned their lesson about changing kernels mid-dstro
[10:09] <LinuxHelp> oldude67, can't you just search on http://packages.ubuntu.com/?
[10:09] <sanityx> or rather ubuntu doesn't
[10:10] <macogw> hikyuu_: so you know, java apps wont look right with beryl
[10:10] <hikyuu_> downloading some Exodus, Agent Steel, and Children of Bodom
[10:10] <sanityx> hikyuu_, eww.
[10:10] <hikyuu_> macogw is that so?
[10:10] <hikyuu_> sanityx: choose your words wisely :P
[10:10] <oldude67> macogw: i knew that i just wanted to know how to find out about the newest and if fiesty will add it or if i will have to do that?
[10:10] <macogw> hikyuu_: there's a workaround thing, but i never got it going....the one i know is adding AWT_TOOLKIT = MToolkit in your .bashrc then always launching from terminal
[10:10] <macogw> hikyuu_: they show solid white...no buttons or anything
[10:10] <whine> i never use num keypad anyway. i wish there was a way to turn it off like in windows so everything works nicely
[10:11] <hikyuu_> odd..
[10:11] <hikyuu_> well, another peer2peer would be nice, if anyone knows of one XD
[10:11] <EmxBA> gtk-gnutella, hikyuu_
[10:11] <hikyuu_> true, i havent played with it yet
[10:12] <hikyuu_> its not familiar anyway
[10:12] <hikyuu_> my dads 48 XD he likes things to be the same and easy
[10:12] <hikyuu_> lol
[10:12] <idefixx> hikyuu_: there're supposed to be some feisty debs on http://www.kiba-dock.org/.. but im to dumb to find them :/
[10:12] <hikyuu_> XD
[10:13] <hikyuu_> thanks idefixx
[10:13] <burnerx> anyone play RoseOnline ?
[10:14] <jedi__> can anyone help me on macbook-isight under feisty???
[10:14] <oldude67> hikyuu: try frostwire if you have your java updated
[10:14] <tdn> Are there any problems upgrading from 6.10 -> 7.04 when using LUKS for enrypted rootfs?
[10:14] <macogw> oldude67: he cant use java apps cuz of beryl
[10:14] <macogw> oldude67:  thats why gtk-gnutella was suggested
[10:15] <hikyuu_> Iron Maiden :3
[10:15] <donkeyofdarkness> giFT
[10:15] <hikyuu_> (likes Speed Metal)
[10:15] <hikyuu_> lol
[10:15] <halim61> hello
[10:16] <whine> is there an application that will let me assign what key codes are generated when i press the pageup/down on my keypad?
[10:17] <kadakas> Firefox has an "about:config", where's the "about:config" of Gnome ? :P
[10:17] <crdlb> kadakas: gconf-editor
[10:17] <hikyuu_> lol, im trying to find all my favorite old stuff
[10:18] <jessid> !stream
[10:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stream - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:18] <kadakas> where can i find documentation for the various keys in there ?
[10:18] <hikyuu_> Diamond Head, then Saxon, then i think ill be out of ideas
[10:18] <hikyuu_> Overkill
[10:18] <crdlb> kadakas: they're all fully documented
[10:18] <crdlb> right in the description
[10:18] <hikyuu_> Dragonforce :3
[10:18] <kadakas> nice
[10:18] <kadakas> thzx
[10:18] <pi4uks> !ati
[10:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:19] <halim61> I have some problems with the official feisty Kernel on my machine.
[10:19] <hikyuu_> im too lazy to port forward on my router
[10:19] <hikyuu_> X.x
[10:19] <hikyuu_> lol
[10:19] <Skaag> what's a good mail server with database storage of user accounts?
[10:19] <hikyuu_> well, im afk, later all and thanks for the help
[10:20] <z9999> Anyone able to help to get the desktop to restore?
[10:20] <hikyuu_> wait, last question
[10:20] <hikyuu_> wtf is a super key?
[10:20] <hikyuu_> O.o
[10:20] <hikyuu_> lol
[10:21] <donkeyofdarkness> A key that unlocks all the doors
[10:21] <jessid> what is a good app to transmit music through internet? i think that is called streamming...?????? thanks!
[10:21] <donkeyofdarkness> as opposed to just one
[10:21] <crdlb> jessid: icecast
[10:21] <bobert> Hi everyone.  quick question to get me started.  im working with VMware v<IP_ADDRESS>772.  how do I get that installed?
[10:21] <crdlb> !info icecast | jessid
[10:21] <ubotu> jessid: Package icecast does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:21] <ricardo> hola
[10:21] <crdlb> !info icecast2 | jessid
[10:21] <ubotu> jessid: icecast2: Ogg Vorbis and MP3 streaming media server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.1-5 (feisty), package size 263 kB, installed size 728 kB
[10:21] <jessid> crdlb  thanks a lot!!!
[10:21] <halim61> I can not activate dma on my hard disks.
[10:22] <halim61> The chipset is an intel ICH4.
[10:22] <ricardo> para chatear en espaol?
[10:22] <halim61> It seems that the feisty kernel load generic ide drivers before the right ones like piix.
[10:23] <sanityx> Is there any type of plan for which releases will be LTS?
[10:23] <sanityx> Like every 3rd release or something?
[10:23] <bobert> I dont know if anyone has used it before, I was wondering more-so if I could use an installer or if it had to be command line
[10:23] <MoL1> halim61: I have seen the same thing - my laptop is capable of UDAM5, but only running at UDMA2!  hdparm gives an error when trying to alter the dma status!  Anyone here got an idea?
[10:24] <donkeyofdarkness> halim61> /dev/cdrom {
[10:24] <donkeyofdarkness>     dma = on
[10:24] <donkeyofdarkness> }
[10:24] <donkeyofdarkness> change cdrom to your hdd
[10:24] <Chetwin> I'm suing ubuntu 6.10 but do not have java6 as an installable option.  Any advice???
[10:24] <Chetwin> using*
[10:24] <donkeyofdarkness> Add that to sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom
[10:24] <donkeyofdarkness> sudo cp /etc/hdparm.conf /etc/hdparm.conf_backup
[10:24] <donkeyofdarkness> gksudo gedit /etc/hdparm.conf
[10:24] <donkeyofdarkness> then reboot
[10:24] <donkeyofdarkness> That should enable DMA
[10:25] <halim61> hdparm could not activate dma
[10:25] <n2diy> Where is my .bashrc file in Dapper?
[10:25] <halim61> I tried hdparm -d /dev/hda
[10:25] <idefixx> hikyuu_: still here?
[10:25] <Chetwin> !java
[10:25] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[10:25] <donkeyofdarkness> did you do sudo first?
[10:25] <SeAofSaRo> hello all
[10:26] <halim61> yes
[10:26] <MoL1> hdparm no longer works now that PATA drives are using a SCSI interface in the kernel.
[10:26] <donkeyofdarkness> odd
[10:26] <halim61> yes but hdparm -t /dev/... show me 4 mb/s
[10:26] <MoL1> halim61: you are not alone with this problem.
[10:27] <MoL1> there is a bug filed on launchpad for this issue under hdparm package
[10:27] <donkeyofdarkness> haven't had dma problems before
[10:27] <halim61> ide_generic was loaded before any chipset drivers
[10:27] <whine> who would have thought that this would be so complicated. looks like i have to learn about scancodes and key board maps
[10:27] <donkeyofdarkness> except I had to enable it manually in breezy
[10:27] <MoL1> No this seems to be feisty-specific with the new 2.6.20 kernel
[10:28] <halim61> This is definetly not a hdparm problem.
[10:28] <halim61> I compiled a new 2.6.21 package with the new libata stuff and all works out of the box.
[10:28] <halim61> but I want to use an official ubuntu kernel!!!
[10:29] <bullgard4> My file /var/log/kernlog.0 lists the line "May  1 06:57:47 MD97600 kernel: [5.036000]  swsusp: Resume From Partition 8:9." What does [ 5.036000]  stand for?
[10:29] <donkeyofdarkness> check and see if there's an update
[10:29] <n2diy> Ok, .bashrc is in my home directory where it should be, why wont gedit play with it? I selected "all files?"
[10:30] <Sp4rKy> hi
[10:30] <whine> hi
[10:30] <MoL1> Thread re: dma issue on the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=415057
[10:30] <donkeyofdarkness> n2diy> try nano .bashrc
[10:30] <Sp4rKy> does anyone use 1and1 and manage his dns with his own bind ?
[10:31] <n2diy> donkeyofdarkness: Roger that, but I want gedit to play with the file. I don't want to send newbies into nano/pico land! :)
[10:31] <donkeyofdarkness> lol
[10:32] <Sp4rKy> this fuckin' 1&1 doesn't accept my dns server
[10:32] <orasis> Hello, I would like to know.. what is preferable in Ubuntu if one wants KDE also -- apt-get install 'kde' or 'kubuntu-desktop'
[10:32] <donkeyofdarkness> Try going to run command and see if "gedit .bashrc" works
[10:32] <orasis> ?
[10:32] <shay|work> how would one "awk '{ print $1 }'"  in perl?
[10:33] <orasis> Because I am concerned that if I am to install both 'desktop' versions, perhaps then one of them will be broken...
[10:33] <z9999> Anyone able to help with a broken ubuntu?
[10:33] <orasis> z9999: Depends what is broken ;)
[10:33] <LGKeiz> hay
[10:33] <shric> shay: perl -lane 'print $F[0] ;'
[10:33] <n2diy> donkeyofdarkness: Yes, that should work, but gedit is already open, I just want to open an other instance of it, with .bashrc.
[10:34] <kadakas> ?upstream
[10:34] <donkeyofdarkness> Are you not able to select it?
[10:34] <kadakas> !upstream
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upstream - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <kadakas> whats upstream ?
[10:34] <LGKeiz> Okay.. I have a nvidia 16MB and a 165MB card, I was wondering If anyone could help e make my 165MB card my main instead of my 16MB, I have no clue what to do.
[10:34] <whine> here is a picture of the keyboard i am using. http://kbdmania.net/board/data/review/daegak.jpg
[10:35] <orasis> LGKeiz: heh, remove the 16mb physically.
[10:35] <z9999> orasis: no desktop after removing alsa update, and now can only get a terminal screen after running apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:35] <LGKeiz> orasis, it's intergated, and it wont come out ;_;
[10:35] <n2diy> donkeyofdarkness: It isn't displayed in the open file box, i triied selecting all files, and all text files, but it isn't available/
[10:35] <LGKeiz> It's like stuck in the slot
[10:35] <orasis> LGKeiz: Disable it via your bios than.
[10:35] <LGKeiz> That works ;0
[10:35] <donkeyofdarkness> LGKeiz> disable that integrated one in the BIOS
[10:35] <LGKeiz> hopefully, it'll work
[10:35] <LGKeiz> I'll try, bbs :)
[10:35] <LGKeiz> thanks
[10:35] <donkeyofdarkness> LGKeiz> or edit xorg.conf
[10:35] <orasis> l999?
[10:36] <donkeyofdarkness> n2diy> you need to make it show hidden files
[10:36] <z9999> ?