[09:29] <level1> is there some sort of trick to making gnash work?  I installed it and restarted firefox... no gnash
[09:29] <cylonia1> Jordan_U: okay, i'll keep looking in the forums and on launchpad for related bugs etc... have a nice day and thx again
[09:30] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip: ok.. what is that for?
[09:30] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip: to help with the crash?
[09:30] <timfrost> lesshaste: is that URL correct?  that URL is missing two levels of directory.  Can you pastebin the actual output of 'sudo apt-get update'?
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: it will reinstall gdm over the top of itself
[09:32] <ct529> Nhawdge: I have looking inot Ekiga .... I do not understand if they support multiplayer videoconferencing
[09:32] <lesshaste> timfrost: http://www.pastebin.ca/1397167
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> level1: http://ubuntumanual.org/posts/102/how-to-install-gnash-in-ubuntu
[09:32] <level1> ActionParsnip: okay, done... now what?
[09:33] <level1> you honestly think I didn't try that?
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> level1: i assume nothing in here
[09:33] <level1> ic
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> level1: we get a vast range of abilities in here so I start somewhere
[09:33] <linky0ne> anyone know how to mount a raid5 created with mdadm?
[09:34] <level1> I'm sorry, I shouldn't have been so rude
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> level1: no offence was intended
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> level1: np man'
[09:34] <telaviv> how can i make flash games on linux?
[09:34] <jamie> !Ubottu
[09:34] <level1> anyway, I also tried swfdec; neither appeared in firefox's about:plugins list
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> level1: tbh, i've never used gnash. if you search your system for .so files you could create a symlink in~/.mozilla/plugins
[09:35] <level1> is there a way to force detection of plugins
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> level1: does   about: plugins say its enabled?
[09:35] <lesshaste> timfrost: what are you seeing?
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> level1: without the space
[09:35] <level1> ActionParsnip: it doesn't appear on the list
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> level1: ok thats something useful, if you symlnk the .so file to ~/.mozilla/plugns it will be in the paths firefox checks for plugins and it will fly
[09:36] <level1> where is the .so file?  I have no idea
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> level1: sudo find / -name *.so
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> level1: that will find it, you can then run: mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins
[09:37] <level1> ActionParsnip: there are a lot of .so files on a linux system
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> level1: and symlink the file in that folder
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> level1: you could pipe the output to grep gna
[09:38] <slonik> hey
[09:38] <lesshaste> I am a little mystified.. what do I have to install the get the debug symbols for a gdmsetup crash?  I can't see debug packages for glib or gio and installed the debug symbols for gdm alone don't seem to help
[09:38] <timfrost> lesshaste: Your apt-get update output looks clean.  you do seem to have multiple repositories enabled, but I can't explain the errors you reported for the ddebs archive.  Have you tried the suggestion from  ActionParsnip to re-install gdm?
[09:38] <slonik> does anybody know some DB manager which will allow to connect to MSSQL database?
[09:38] <lesshaste> timfrost: yes
[09:38] <level1> ActionParsnip: I did a search for / -name gnash* and I can't find any .so files
[09:38] <lesshaste> timfrost: I haven't restarted X though
[09:39] <unimatrix9> hi there
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> level1: try: sudo find / -name *.so | grep gna
[09:39] <unimatrix9> is there already an version of ubuntu 9.04 for acer aspire one or netbooks in general?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> level1: you are ssuming with that search that the file starts with gnash, which may not be the case
[09:40] <level1> ActionParsnip: is it libgnashplugin.so?
[09:40] <lesshaste> I am trying to complete this bug report http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=556458
[09:40] <jamie> unimatrix9: Yes, The normal one.
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> level1: i havent used it, sounds likely
[09:40] <popey> emerson_: go to their website and you can get a password
[09:40] <unimatrix9> its optimized for low level read and write to the ssd?
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> level1: so if you create the plugins folder and symlink that file in there it should work nicely
[09:41] <jamie> unimatrix9: I would say so.
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> level1: if you give me the full path to the file that find has found I can give you the commands to run
[09:41] <level1> okay, got it I think
[09:41] <level1> thanks
[09:42] <Jimi_Neutral> Can anyone point me in the direction of a room that deals with Excel?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> np bro
[09:42] <level1> ack... why is there still no sound?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_Neutral: ##windows
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> level1: oh man, that old chestnut...
[09:42] <level1> ActionParsnip: I have sound from amarok
[09:42] <Nirrad1st> Hello. I am using Ubuntu 9.04 and I have installed " connectd " application. But I dont know where to find it ? Thanks if you can help.
[09:42] <level1> acantha: amarok sounds real nice..
[09:43] <jamie> Nirrad1st: #ubuntu+1
[09:43] <jamie> Nirrad1st: Ask there.
[09:43] <Nirrad1st> oh ok sorry
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> level1: try: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.1; sudo mkdir -p /tmp/.esd/; sudo touch /tmp/.esd/socket
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> level1: its flash being rubbish as always
[09:46] <level1> ActionParsnip: that didn't solve anything
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> level1: is your linux 32bit or 64bit?
[09:46] <level1> ActionParsnip: 64bit.  also, its kde.  Doesn't kde use a different sound system than esd?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> level1: no, its still ubuntu underneath, just a different DE
[09:47] <saiki> if I back up my debs and reinstall I should be able to reinstall and be up and running quickly, yes?
[09:47] <rumpel> !clone | saiki
[09:48] <rumpel> hm
[09:48] <saiki> ?
[09:48] <rumpel> !cloning
[09:48] <saiki> talkign about a full reinstall
[09:48] <jamie> Hurry Ubottu
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> level1: try: sudo apt-get install libesd0-alsa
[09:48] <jamie> !clone
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> level1: sudo apt-get install libflashsupport
[09:49] <rumpel> bot seems to be down
[09:49] <unimatrix9> aptoncd creates backup of your deb files
[09:49] <rumpel> locked database o.O
[09:49] <saiki> !hi
[09:49] <jamie> Poor ubottu
[09:49] <unimatrix9> http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/
[09:49] <saiki> yep, guess it is
[09:50] <abrandt> I dont know what I did but I moved my mouse to the upper left corner and then my screen showed 2 desktops and I was able to move to that one and click on it and then back then I rebooted and I cant do it anymore.. I dont know what I did to get that type of display anyone have an idea
[09:50] <aLeSD_> hi all
[09:50] <x_O> hi
[09:50] <aLeSD_> is there a substitute of premiere for music video creating in  linux
[09:50] <jamie> abandt: Scroll
[09:50] <aLeSD_> ?
[09:51] <abrandt> I just typoe scroll to get it to do that again?
[09:51] <unimatrix9> or manual backup your apt chache, then reinstall with dpkg -i later, sometimes it does not work though, in my expiriences
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> aLeSDkino, avidemux are ones i am aware of
[09:51] <abrandt> I dont even know how I did it in the 1st place
[09:51] <aLeSD_> ActionParsnip thanks
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> !info kino
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> !info avidemux
[09:51] <unimatrix9> the best one for me is cinerella
[09:51] <jamie> abrandt: Use the scroll button on your mouse scroll back and forth to change workspaces.
[09:51] <kbrosnan> i have zoomed the desktop with some accidental <meta> keepress how do i undo this
[09:51] <x_O> have audio issue ... when i start computer up (Ubuntu 8.04) mp3s/videos - with codecs all work fine. But when I view Flash online they stop working until I reboot. Anyone know what would cause this? I didn't start doing this until recently.
[09:52] <ITguru> I'm in the middle of writing a backup policy for linux based machine, and I've found myself stuck - and advice on what to concentrate on?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> x_O: try restarting hal and/or your sound system (alsa / pulse)
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> !backup
[09:52] <Firefrozen> hai
[09:52] <badfish69> !help
[09:53] <x_O> ActionParsnip: there is a terminal command for that i assume
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> x_O: yes
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> x_O: sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> x_O: you will have to check which sound system you use as to how to restart that but the hal kick my work
[09:54] <level1> ActionParsnip: libflashsupport has no installation candidate
[09:54] <kbrosnan> x_O: using the process manager to kill pluseaudio and then <alt>+f2 to run pulseaudio again works in most cases for me
[09:54] <syadow> hye, last time i install using all size my PArtition 8.10..if im using live cd to resize it ..can effect my partition??? (need back up first?)
[09:54] <saiki> that isn't my question. I am talkign about reformating MY pc and installing this offline
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> level1: theres a million pages on this. flash is proprietary and so is hard to resolve issues with as adobe refuse to release stuff about flash
[09:55] <unimatrix9> best video editing would be cinelerra i think , http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
[09:55] <unimatrix9> but its still hard work,, :)
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> level1: all i can suggest is websearching round to see what works, could try a reoot too to see if the sound system fell over itself
[09:55] <saiki> can I reinstall mt debs from the deb files I have downloaded for my packages?
[09:55] <saiki> my*
[09:55] <x_O> hmm
[09:55] <x_O> wow that worked
[09:55] <x_O> lol thanks
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> saiki: sure, just copy them over to the other system and run: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[09:56] <x_O> killing the process that is ... quick fix at least
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> saiki: with your pwd in the same folder as the debs
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> x_O: sweet
[09:56] <koshar1> abrandt your describing the scale compiz addon
[09:56] <saiki> ?
[09:56] <saiki> what pwd?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> pwd = present working directory
[09:56] <saiki> ah..
[09:57] <saiki> thought you meant password lol
[09:57] <koshar1> unimatrix9 i like kdenlive for video
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> saiki: its where your terminal is pointing to in your file system
[09:57] <unimatrix9> ok, you can use that one too
[09:57] <saiki> gotcha
[09:58] <unimatrix9> sudo apt-get install kdenlive i guess
[09:58] <x_O> ActionParsnip: another question ... I tried updating to 8.10 and it said it did not have the right graphics driver ... think I had the option to continue anyways... but then I would be without a GUI right?
[09:58] <koshar1> saiki or you can make a personal repo with dpkg-dev
[09:58] <saiki> ?
[09:58] <saiki> I'd rather just back up what I have and go from default
[09:58] <koshar1> saiki to install your debs on another machine
[09:58] <saiki> got alsa issues
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> x_O: maybe not off te first boot but you can fix x to ue the vesa driver which will always work
[09:59] <unimatrix9> how would you backup with dpkg-dev?
[10:00] <saiki> I'm just gonna follow ActionParsnip 's advice
[10:00] <x_O> vesa driver? ... think im using propreietary driver now...vesa is open source one ... so no hardware accel i guess. would videos with codecs and flash etc still work?
[10:00] <saiki> seems the least likely to cause problems
[10:00] <[nrx]> I have a feeling this has been asked before.. but how do I get sound to work for flash videos... like on YouTube? :)
[10:01] <wwig> someone knows how to mount a floppy disk in writing under intrepid? please
[10:01] <unimatrix9> saiki aptoncd does some simular things, but i guess manual would be as save ..
[10:01] <wwig> with read and write rights
[10:01] <unimatrix9> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=147420
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> x_O: sure, you might have to re-establish the vga driver in the updated system, it might go well. You'll have to try. If the gfx drivers are bad, switch back to failsafe then reinstall the driver in the updated system
[10:01] <unimatrix9> read for backup apt cache
[10:02] <TheFunkbomb> Quick question.  I just started using Evolution mail instead of Thunderbird.  Is there anyway I can get it to start up minimized without alltray?
[10:02] <koshar1> unimatrix9 you need dpkg-dev installed to run dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip -9c > Packages.gz. this will give you an index file that apt can read,
[10:02] <x_O> any advantage of 8.10 over 8.04 ? ... or just non important updates basically
[10:02] <TheFunkbomb> I'm using Gnome-Do docky.  It's there.  I don't need it to start up full size
[10:02] <saiki> unimatrix9, yea, I'd rather do it manually, less likely to screw it up
[10:02] <[nrx]> I have a feeling this has been asked before.. but how do I get sound to work for flash videos... like on YouTube? :)
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> x_O: its the beginning of the depreciation of xorg.conf
[10:03] <koshar1> unimatrix9 its a little more flexable than aptoncd as you can dynamicaly update your repo on a usb thumb drive ect...
[10:03] <[nrx]> nm sorted it
[10:03] <[nrx]> :D
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> x_O: plus a later kernel
[10:03] <saiki> [nrx], probably gets asked a billion times, but that doesn't make it any less of a honest question
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> [nrx]: how?
[10:03] <unimatrix9> koshar1, and how would i reinstall them on the new system?
[10:03] <x_O> ActionParsnip: what do you mean by that? ... and whats better about latest kernal?
[10:03] <koshar1> unimatrix9 with synaptic or apt.
[10:04] <kbrosnan> my zoom issue with the <meta> keypress was <meta> mouse wheel, removed the compiz zoom functions
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> x_O: bugfixes etc, the diffferences are to vast for irc, go see whats new
[10:04] <[nrx]> ActionParsnip, editing /etc/firefox/firefoxrc hehe
[10:04] <x_O> but nothing new feature wise?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> [nrx]: can you please fill level1 in if you see him/her
[10:05] <unimatrix9> hmm, ok that was rather new for me, thanks for the info
[10:05] <[nrx]> ActionParsnip, sure
[10:05] <koshar1> unimatrix9 its very fast as you dont need to download the packages again, however the catch is the destination machine has to be running the same dist as the instasll the packages came from
[10:05] <aofza> !help
[10:05] <alakoo> know any means to alter the visibility of taskbar, I mean, the taskbar is invisible but not when I click "applications" or such..
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> [nrx]: thanks
[10:06] <[nrx]> ActionParsnip, np Vegetable.
[10:06] <koshar1> unimatrix9 a link if your interested. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal
[10:08] <unimatrix9> koshar1, i had installed several machines, wich are edentical, one would argue that it would be the same install then, i created an manual apt-cache on one machine, for install on the others, then run dpkg -i to install all the packages, in theory it should wokr wihtout any hassle, but it did not , some would fail... ah computers you never know what they are doing...:)
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> unimatrix9: you do in DOS :D:D:D
[10:09] <koshar1> unimatrix9 seems odd to me
[10:10] <unimatrix9> yes very odd, thats true
[10:10] <[nrx]> ActionParsnip, tell you what, it's not very reliable tho. Keeps crashing ffox
[10:10] <unimatrix9> any way, thanks for the url, i printed it to pdf
[10:11] <m3ga> i had s2disk working in intrepid, but it doesn't work in jaunty. i've tried both s2disk and pm-hibernate. suspend takes the machine down, but it doesn't resume. instead i get a clean bot. ideas?
[10:11] <unimatrix9> thats why i like the thought of meta packages, it would solve some of these issue's i hope..
[10:12] <x_O> does flash ever use 3d acceleration?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> x_O: not sure, research it
[10:12] <unimatrix9> no flash does not do that ( shock wave does on windows )
[10:13] <koshar1> unimatrix9 is it difficult to whip up a metapackage with checkinstall?
[10:13] <x_O> hmm Flash 10 does
[10:13] <x_O> it i upgrade to 8.10 i would not have 3d accel new X does not support it for my gpu
[10:14] <unimatrix9> http://pj.freefaculty.org/blog/?p=34
[10:14] <unimatrix9> checkinstall metapackage
[10:14] <X-TaZ> !quota
[10:14] <tonimaner> salve
[10:14] <dr4g> Hi there, is it possible to obtain a list of the usernames on the system? I'm not able to remember my username as this was installed a while back
[10:14] <tonimaner> !list
[10:15] <ziroday> dr4g: ls /home :)
[10:15] <X-TaZ> Hi there :) I'm looking for help with quota and edquota. I followed the tuto but it dont work :x
[10:15] <dr4g> ziroday i'm not able to login yet.
[10:15] <X-TaZ> any website ?
[10:15] <unimatrix9> checkinstall is a good tip.. i will look into that later
[10:15] <[nrx]> dr4g, no. But you can try your root user?
[10:15] <ziroday> dr4g: ah, well you will need to, to take a look at anything. One sec
[10:16] <ziroday> !root > [nrx]
[10:16] <[nrx]> ziroday, depends on your runlevel.
[10:16] <ziroday> [nrx]: err ubuntu does not have a root user, at all.
[10:16] <ziroday> dr4g: see http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[10:16] <[nrx]> good point batman
[10:16] <X-TaZ> Still looking for help with quotas please :)
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> X-TaZ: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=289571
[10:18] <ahmed> hey all
[10:18] <X-TaZ> ty
[10:18] <unimatrix9> to reset your password , http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[10:18] <unimatrix9> dont know if its an up to date article, but give it a try
[10:18] <ziroday> unimatrix9: I just posted that :)
[10:18] <unimatrix9> ah
[10:18] <unimatrix9> hehe
[10:18] <unimatrix9> sorry
[10:19] <unimatrix9> you are so fast...:)
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> !purekde > ActionParsnip
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> !coffee
[10:21] <unimatrix9> yes please
[10:22] <Prolescum> Hello. Anybody have any idea when the repos will be updated with java 6.13?
[10:22] <Buckybunny> Hey does anyone know where the boot.ini file is in vista
[10:23] <ssiebeck> asdasd
[10:23] <ziroday> Buckybunny: ask in ##windows
[10:23] <magnetron> Buckybunny: ##windows
[10:23] <unimatrix9> vista has no boot ini
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> Buckybunny: root of your bootable drive
[10:23] <jamie> !ubottu
[10:24] <TheFunkbomb> Does anyone know how to start Evolution mail minimized or at the very least, have the mail checker start at startup?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> TheFunkbomb: sudo apt-get install alltray; alltray evolution
[10:25] <TheFunkbomb> I don't want to use alltray
[10:25] <TheFunkbomb> I hate that program
[10:25] <ziroday> Prolescum: I presume you mean jdk?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> TheFunkbomb: evolution always runs anyway with its background processes
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> TheFunkbomb: why is it so bad?
[10:26] <badfish69> how do i cpu from terminal?
[10:26] <lorenzosu> TheFunkbomb: On ubuntu Mozilla Thunderbird has a tray, if you're not tied to Evolution.
[10:26] <TheFunkbomb> ActionParsnip, it just is.  I used it with thunderbird
[10:26] <ziroday> badfish69: top
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> badfish69: i didnt know you could cpu?
[10:26] <rumpel> @badfish uptime
[10:26] <badfish69> sry
[10:26] <badfish69> i mean model
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> badfish69: can you expand please
[10:26] <rumpel> doing cpu rocks :)
[10:26] <koshar1> Buckybunny /
[10:26] <TheFunkbomb> lorenzosu, I'm coming from thunderbird.  I was not happy with it at all
[10:26] <badfish69> determine the model, mhz, etc
[10:26] <carlos_> can u help me please http://pastebin.com/d356b5867
[10:27] <Prolescum> ziroday: Not the jdk, just the jre 6.13 apparently
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> badfish69: cat /proc/cpu | grep model
[10:27] <rumpel> @carlos nice folder...
[10:27] <unimatrix9> TheFunkbomb something like this : "Mails are automatically checkd (sic) on startup, if and only if "automatically
[10:27] <unimatrix9> check every N minutes" is set."
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> badfish69: cat /proc/cpuinfo sorry
[10:27] <gbv> Hello everyone, something new to me to write through IRC. I have a problem with my sound on a Xubuntu (8.4) version. Does anyone could help me ?
[10:28] <TheFunkbomb> unimatrix9, that is an option in evolution?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> badfish69:  cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model;  cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i mhz
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> badfish69: should sort you out nice
[10:28] <TheFunkbomb> I just shut down evolution and I will see if it picks up the email I sent myself
[10:29] <TheFunkbomb> I just installed Gnome-Do Docky earlier
[10:29] <TheFunkbomb> Wow, it's awesome
[10:29] <unimatrix9> wait i will check
[10:29] <lorenzosu> TheFunkbomb: I see.
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> TheFunkbomb: whats it do?
[10:30] <TheFunkbomb> ActionParsnip, it replaces that bottom taskbar
[10:30] <Prolescum> ziroday: my mate wants me to play bloody lexulous and currently the java kills FF3. I use 8.10 if that makes a difference
[10:30] <TheFunkbomb> to a more Mac OSX feel
[10:30] <TheFunkbomb> Prolescum, what extensions do you have running?
[10:30] <ziroday> Prolescum: it try a different runtime? What are you currently using?
[10:30] <L3dPlatedLinux> ok what chan is for jaunty
[10:31] <hateball> !jaunty | L3dPlatedLinux
[10:31] <TheFunkbomb> My firefox will not run if I have greasemonkey or no script running
[10:31] <TheFunkbomb> will not run java
[10:31] <Prolescum> ziroday: I'm using 6.10 jre, from the repo
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> TheFunkbomb: i can see the advantages, i use yakuake to launch apps from personally, as well as type commands in
[10:31] <bolt_> me again
[10:31] <zeroXten> hi. Are there any know problems with running winxp guest inside virtualbox 2.2.0 on intrepid amd64 where the guest resolution doesn't go above 800x600 (nvidia graphics card btw)?
[10:31] <ziroday> Prolescum: well jre is usually the fastest. I doubt there is anything more you can do
[10:31] <dr4g> How can i change the networking "domain", so the DHCP server willgive me a proper IP ?
[10:31] <TheFunkbomb> Action, I gotta see if I can put place launchers in there
[10:32] <ziroday> zeroXten: ask in #vbox
[10:32] <TheFunkbomb> Like my SMB mounts for windows desktops
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> zeroXten: have you installed the guest additions?
[10:32] <TheFunkbomb> brb
[10:32] <Prolescum> ziroday: okay mate, fair enough. Thanks for the input.
[10:32] <zeroXten> ActionParsnip: yeah, in fact - before I do the resolution can go higher =(
[10:33] <unimatrix9> TheFunkbomb  i am reading something about evolution here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-769018.html
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> zeroXten: is the VM type set to XP?
[10:33] <zeroXten> yup
[10:33] <TheFunkbomb> unimatrix9, the mail checker is installed by default
[10:34] <unimatrix9> ah
[10:34] <Tas> Hello
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> zeroXten: i'd ask in #vbox dude, more specialised
[10:34] <unimatrix9> is mail checker the same a mail-notification ?
[10:35] <Tas> Uh, can I ask a question that's sortof to do with Windows?
[10:35] <ziroday> Tas: yes, in ##windows.
[10:35] <hateball> !windows | Tas
[10:35] <Tas> Oh, thank you O:
[10:37] <TheFunkbomb> Gnome-Do doesn't support location launchers :(
[10:37] <rumpel> after a dist-upgrade via synaptic, is it adviced to check some files?
[10:37] <ziroday> rumpel: what files?
[10:37] <rumpel> after the last two upgrade it "forgot" to create needed files for grub
[10:37] <blag> im trying to get mpx working...what X source package is MPX in?
[10:38] <bolt_> same problom
[10:38] <bolt_> same problom
[10:38] <bolt_> same problom
[10:38] <bolt_> same problom
[10:38] <FloodBot2> bolt_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:38] <rumpel> had deleted every old initrd, but forgot to create the new ones
[10:39] <rumpel> i hope, this time it works sound ^^
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> TheFunkbomb: make a script or 2 and add it to /usr/bin ;)
[10:39] <ziroday> rumpel: well you can check /boot/grub/menu.lst but that shouldn't be a problem unless it never finished configuring
[10:39] <bolt_> anyone know what to do
[10:39] <rumpel> it always finished normal
[10:39] <TheFunkbomb> Out of my league ActionParsnip
[10:39] <rumpel> this time i will check before reboot
[10:40] <ziroday> bolt_: please clearly state your issue, what you've done to try and fix it and any other relevant informatino
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> TheFunkbomb: what for 2 lines
[10:40] <TheFunkbomb> yeah lol
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> TheFunkbomb: #!/bin/bash
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> TheFunkbomb: nautilus /path/to/mountpoint
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> TheFunkbomb: make the text file executable and copy it to /usr/bin
[10:40] <bolt_> i've tryed Gent (not verry helpful)
[10:40] <TheFunkbomb> Wait, what are we talking about?
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> TheFunkbomb: thats all the script would have in it
[10:41] <ziroday> bolt_: what is your issue? What is not working?
[10:41] <TheFunkbomb> Are we talking about the location launcher or evolution?
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> TheFunkbomb: 2 lines
[10:41] <bolt_> i told you yesterday
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> TheFunkbomb: to open a folder i gnome-do. You said it doesnt support location launchers
[10:41] <ziroday> bolt_: well I was not here yesterday. If you would like assistance please what is requested on one line
[10:42] <bolt_> i told you yesterday
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> TheFunkbomb: but if you make an executable script in your $PATH it wll be able to run it
[10:42] <ziroday> bolt_: correct, please answer what we ask you :)
[10:42] <rumpel> rofl
[10:42] <ziroday> bolt_: well would you care to tell us again. I was not here yesterday?
[10:42] <TheFunkbomb> Oh, I'm not worried about that.  I have two icons up there next to my external hard drive mount
[10:42] <freddie27> hi guys..i've a problem : on ubuntu 8.10, I'm running google Adwords editor using Wine. When I open big campaigns, the application just closes without any error message. Any idea what i should be checking ?
[10:42] <TheFunkbomb> ActionParsnip, it's not a big deal
[10:42] <ziroday> freddie27: running from the terminal?
[10:43] <ahtmly2k> help..
[10:43] <SchdyCel> ?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> TheFunkbomb: ok
[10:43] <ahtmly2k> i downloaded a file.. opera_9.64.2480.gcc4.qt3_amd64.deb
[10:43] <ahtmly2k> how do i install it?
[10:43] <ziroday> ahtmly2k: double click it
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> ahtmly2k: sudo dpkg -i ./opera_9.64.2480.gcc4.qt3_amd64.deb
[10:43] <koshar1> ActionParsnip you mean run it from gnome do?
[10:43] <ahtmly2k> oops.. got it..
[10:43] <freddie27> from the wine menu
[10:43] <ahtmly2k> it was an opera error
[10:43] <bolt_> a Gent fire alarm controler for linux worked for 4 days and now it keeps setting the alarm off every 10 minutes
[10:44] <ahtmly2k> turns out i only needed to doubleclick it.. right..
[10:44] <ahtmly2k> thanx
[10:44] <SchdyCel> ?
[10:44] <bolt_> a Gent fire alarm controler for linux worked for 4 days and now it keeps setting the alarm off every 10 minutes
[10:44] <Rei2> hey, i gots a question.  openoffice 3.0 on AMD64 wont let me install the menu items for it
[10:44] <Rei2> =[
[10:45] <ziroday> freddie27: okay, you need to go to where the .exe file is stored and run wine ./blablalba.exe, this will output error messages in the terminal. Those are your error messages :)
[10:45] <ziroday> bolt_: what software are you using to control it? What is the exact hardware model and how is it connected?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> koshar1: yeah if its in your path you will be able to execute it
[10:45] <ziroday> freddie27: also check the appdb and #winehq are great on getting windows apps to work with wine
[10:45] <freddie27> thanks much..will try that out
[10:46] <bolt_> its a Gent fire alarm controller  connected by wireless
[10:46] <koshar1> ActionParsnip i just started to type the name of a script in my home/bin file and it would appear it wont auto fill it
[10:46] <ziroday> bolt_: what is the model of the fire controller? How are you controlling it, what software are you using?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> koshar1: then that folder is in $PATH also
[10:47] <dr4g> Hi there i've modified my domain (workgroup) to match what it is on my windows machine, by editing the 'workgroup' variable on /etc/samba/smb.conf, i've rebooted and the DHCP server still won't assign me a proper IP. is anyone able to give further advice on this ?
[10:47] <koshar1> ActionParsnip yes i beleive so, whats the syntax to print your path locations again?
[10:47] <dr4g> sorry disregard that last message
[10:47] <bolt_> it's a gent vigilon pannel , the fire alarm controller is on linux
[10:47] <SchdyCel> Can't get 8.10 to work live or installed  dell dimension 2350
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> dr4g: try: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:48] <ziroday> bolt_: but what is the software you are using? What is its name. And what is the *exact* model number of the fire controller
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> koshar1: echo $PATH
[10:48] <bolt_> its call gent controller 2009
[10:49] <lesshaste> how do you get the exact version of an installed package again?
[10:49] <popey> lesshaste: dpkg -l <packagename>
[10:49] <ziroday> !version | lesshaste
[10:49] <koshar1> yes my home/user/bin is in my path
[10:49] <SchdyCel> Could I ask that someone direct me to the place to go to ask questions
[10:49] <koshar1> /home/holto/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[10:49] <bolt_> its call gent controller 2009
[10:49] <popey> ziroday: looks like the vigilon panel is model 34000 according to google
[10:50] <bolt_> thats all i know
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> koshar1: there you go, you can add ad remove path entrys as you need
[10:50] <lesshaste> thanks
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> hi ikonia
[10:50] <koshar1> ActionParsnip gnome do will dring up doccies as well so its not limited to binarys.
[10:50] <ikonia> hello
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> koshar1: i use terminal for almost everything inc opening files etc, keeps my system nice and compacted
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> koshar1: my / partition is currently occupying occupying 2.6Gb
[10:51] <TheFunkbomb> Hey, do you think it's bad that I'm using SSL for sending and receiving email?
[10:51] <koshar1> ActionParsnip how do you update the locate db?
[10:51] <ziroday> TheFunkbomb: bad how?
[10:51] <rumpel> @koshar "sudo updatedb"
[10:52] <TheFunkbomb> ziroday, unsecure
[10:52] <TheFunkbomb> ziroday, most people say to use SSL for receiving an TLS for sending.  I'm using SSL for both
[10:52] <ziroday> TheFunkbomb: ah, I can't speak on that myself. I have no idea what the differences are
[10:52] <lesshaste> how would I install the libglib2 sources?
[10:53] <TheFunkbomb> off to google I go!
[10:53] <rumpel> @lesshaste tried "aptitude search glib2"?
[10:53] <ziroday> lesshaste: you mean the packages necessary to build the sources, or the actual source of libglib2?
[10:53] <lesshaste> ziroday: the package that has the sources
[10:53] <lesshaste> ziroday: so the former :)
[10:54] <Blade_Runner> Which is better, scheme or haskell?
[10:54] <ziroday> lesshaste: err sudo apt-get build-dep libglib2.0-0
[10:54] <rumpel> apt-get install libglib2.0-dev ?
[10:54] <dr4g> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[10:54] <rumpel> a... k
[10:54] <dr4g> . /dev/sda6              2103008    739972   1256208  38% /
[10:54] <ziroday> lesshaste: or do you want to build an app requring libglib2?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> dr4g: try with a -h switch
[10:55] <dr4g> somehow i've managed to install on /dev/sda6 instead of /dev/sda1,
[10:55] <lesshaste> ziroday: got to go but thanks!
[10:55] <TheFunkbomb> oh well, it's bedtime!
[10:55] <dr4g> i think i've managed to install two copies, one on sda6 and sda1
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> dr4g: you could use dd to copy the data over, or use partimage
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> dr4g: oh
[10:56] <dr4g> i don't want to use sda6 copy, is there any way to mount sda1 to / and not mount sda6 to /
[10:56] <rumpel> /etc/fstab
[10:56] <rumpel> erm...
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> dr4g: read fstab like rumpel says
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> !fstab
[10:56] <dr4g> i'm in fstab file now.
[10:56] <rumpel> then just switch the mountpoints
[10:57] <dr4g> its got some kind of hash representation of /dev/sda6
[10:57] <dassouki> is there a free/opensource software that handles spss data
[10:57] <Nhawdge> rumpel: the only problem with that is that sda6 has all the data, you will need to partition it at sda1 instead of sta6
[10:57] <dr4g> http://pastebin.com/m2f88f1d5
[10:58] <ahmed> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[10:58] <dr4g> sda1 and sdsa6 have all the data, i think if i install a bootloader on sda1 and remove sda6 partition, that might work
[10:58] <Guest94790> any bady there ?
[10:58] <dr4g> would it ?
[10:58] <ziroday> dassouki: tried pspp?
[10:59] <dr4g> see here, sda6 has a hash representation: http://pastebin.com/m2f88f1d5
[10:59] <rumpel> hmm... boot from sda1 (if ubuntu is also there) and kick the sda6-entry in grub-menu
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Guest94790: no, nobody at all
[10:59] <Nhawdge> dr4g: sda1 is a primary partition, and sda5 is an extended, they are different partitions, on the same drive
[10:59] <dassouki> ziroday: no
[10:59] <usuariodd> hello, this is only a test for the application xchat, thank you
[10:59] <usuariodd> goodbye!
[10:59] <rumpel> UUID ist the partition-drive-identification-number
[10:59] <dr4g> Nhawdge i think sda6 is my swap, and i've managed to install a bootloader on my swap instead of the primary
[10:59] <rumpel> kind of
[10:59] <marcel> !session-limit
[11:00] <Nhawdge> dr4g: can you mount sda1 anywhere manually?
[11:00] <dr4g> i can try what would be the best command for that
[11:00] <Guest94790> ca anu one help me
[11:00] <Guest94790> can  any one help me
[11:01] <rumpel> @dr4g can you boot into your installation on sda1 ?
[11:02] <Guest94790> any one call me
[11:02] <Guest94790> i will be angry :(
[11:02] <rumpel> *call*
[11:02] <dr4g> rumpel i'm not sure, would that require me playing with the LiveCD to install a bootloader on sda1?
[11:02] <dr4g> http://pastebin.com/m40e739df
[11:02] <dr4g> this is the fdisk -l output
[11:03] <Slart> Does anyone know of a system to use a graphics card for making calculations.. something like CUDA? something I can use from uubuntu/linux?
[11:03] <sunil_> hi ti every one
[11:03] <rumpel> @dr4g if you can boot from your grub into sda1, then its perfect
[11:03] <sunil_> hi toooo every one
[11:03] <Guest94790> hiii
[11:03] <Guest94790> any one speak arbicc ?
[11:03] <rumpel> @dr4g otherwise you can perhaps open the grub-console, link to your real /boot/ folder und startup from there... then repair grub in ubuntu
[11:04] <sunil_> any indian here
[11:04] <dr4g> rumpel how can i strip grub off of sda6
[11:04] <Nhawdge> !question | Guest94790
[11:04] <Slart> !indian
[11:04] <dr4g> rumpel: to force it not to boot from sda6
[11:04] <rumpel> @dr4g .. edit /boot/grub/menu.lst ...e.g.
[11:04] <sunil_> any indian girl
[11:05] <rumpel> when you've booted from /dev/sda1
[11:05] <Nhawdge> dr4g: You're best off rebooting and pressing esc to catch grub before it boots and edit the boot line to /dev/sda1
[11:05] <Nhawdge> dr4g: once you've verified that it will boot as sda1 I would recommend making the change in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:05] <xeer> does anyone know of a way to move the session to another computer?
[11:06] <sunil_> hi
[11:06] <bolt__> now what do i do
[11:06] <xeer> I have some applications running that I would like moved to another ubuntu machine. such as nautilus and some text editing tools
[11:07] <xeer> is this possible..?
[11:07] <Nhawdge> xeer: yes, install openssh-server
[11:07] <miamibo> yeah
[11:07] <ahmed> rumpel
[11:07] <rumpel> openssh for remote control?
[11:07] <miamibo> no
[11:07] <bolt__> now what do i do
[11:07] <xeer> Nhawdge: you are talking about accessing another machine through CLI, this is not what I'm referring to
[11:07] <Slart> xeer: I don't think you can move already running sessions to another computer
[11:08] <Guest58968> please any one help me
[11:08] <xeer> Slart: would it be possible to copy what is in memory space?
[11:08] <Nhawdge> xeer: once you have openssh installed you can using the connect to server function and change it to ssh and enter the IP for the machine
[11:08] <rumpel> @xeer difficult
[11:08] <Slart> xeer: you can run stuff using ssh from another computer though.. ssh -x <IP_ADDRESS> gedit will run gedit on that ip and export the displau
[11:08] <Guest58968> any one here from egypt
[11:09] <Slart> xeer: possible?.. perhaps.. easy or practical? I doubt it
[11:09] <xeer> Slart: I can't argue with it not being easy, but I can say it is very practical
[11:09] <Slart> xeer: what are you trying to do?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Slart: needs a capital -X
[11:10] <xeer> Slart: I am thinking of how I can transfer an entire session remotely, exit the session and power down while remotely the session is in tact.
[11:10] <vinograd19> Hi everyone. /var/log/messages don't write anything when I'm pressing buttons on my laptop (like power). Acpid is running. How can I make acpid working?
[11:10] <Slart> xeer: bad wording by me.. I meant more like possible to do with using all kinds of black magic
[11:10] <mitman> I am totally confused, my root directory is showing its full, but I just did a total backup and the tar file shows up as 800MB, my root directory is over 2GB
[11:10] <xeer> Slart: yes, some hoodoo added as well
[11:11] <Slart> xeer: why not look into some clustering solutions.. that might be able to do that
[11:11] <Slart> ActionParsnip: thanks.. capital x it is
[11:11] <BadEagle> i want to spend a couple months hiding in my room writing something huge that people will use so that i can give it away free and beg for donations.... any ideas?
[11:11] <xeer> Slart: I am targeting desktops, workstations and laptops or other mobile solutions
[11:11] <Slart> xeer: are you looking to write something that manages this?
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> !ot | BadEagle
[11:12] <dr4g> Nhawdge you're said to change the boot line.. in which file ? i plan to press ESC and boot into "recovery mode" into a shelll
[11:12] <xeer> Slart: possibly
[11:12] <sheryl> Hello, I just install ubuntu on my laktop. However, my touchpad is not functioning.
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> !touchpad | sheryl
[11:12] <Slart> xeer: you might want to ask in #linux perhaps.. or some channel not oriented towards end user support
[11:13] <vinograd19> Hi everyone. /var/log/messages don't write anything when I'm pressing buttons on my laptop (like power). Acpid is running. How can I make acpid working?
[11:13] <mitman> Is anyone familiar with ubuntu as a server?  mine is giving me ISSUES after about a month running
[11:13] <Slart> xeer: but the idea is nice.. sounds very useful for lots of people
[11:13] <Slart> mitman: ISSUES? it's giving you attitude? or something in particular?
[11:14] <bekah> anyone know anything about winetricks? i get err:setupapi:do_file_copyW Unsupported style(s) 0x144 when i try to use it to add directx9
[11:14] <sheryl> ActionParsnip, i have tried. it seems not working.
[11:14] <Slart> bekah: you might get better answers in #winehq
[11:14] <mitman> Slart: Few things, I have an Ubuntu server with 2 Raid 1 HDs (1 is the main OS and the other is the data).  The / partition is stating that its full and nothing can be written on the drive
[11:15] <Slart> mitman: well.. is it?
[11:15] <bekah> oh thanx i didnt know about that room
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> sheryl: try in mouse config settings (not sure where gnome hides them persnoally)
[11:15] <mitman> Slart: can't be, I have seperate partitions for /,/var/log,/sys, and so on.. I allocated 2GB for /
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> sheryl: does the device show up in   lspci
[11:15] <mitman> Slart: I just did a total backup to a tar file, the tar file is less than 900MB so really confused
[11:16] <Slart> mitman: check with df .. also root might have some space reserved
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> sheryl: is there a thng to lock the pad?
[11:16] <mitman> df shows / is using 100%
[11:16] <mitman> but I don't know what to delete, I know I don't have that much data in the partition
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> mitman: sudo apt-get clean
[11:16] <mitman> ActionParsnip: I did that also
[11:17] <mitman> its confusing because i started with ubuntu server basic config and only apt-get'd the files I needed
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> mitman: you can uninstall old kernels if the newest one is running ok
[11:17] <mitman> old kernels would be in the /boot partition, correct?
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> mitman: you could also uninstall all the stupid video drivers that come with a standard ubuntu install
[11:17] <Slart> mitman: try using du / --max-depth 1 -h to see how much each folder uses
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> mitman: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[11:18] <mitman> ActionParsnip: there is no gui on this machine.. it was basic server config, i put in samba, openldap, ssh, etc.
[11:18] <sheryl> ActionParsnip, i have enable all the touchpad in mouse config settings. It didn't show up on lspci
[11:18] <zxd> is there a tool for editing /etc/fonts/conf.d  or can I edit it directly
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> mitman: run  uname -r to find out the current kernel and uninstall the images that ARENT the one running, then run: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> mitman: i dont use gui, too slow
[11:19] <mitman> My total system is using 15GB
[11:19] <mitman> according to du, 14.7GB is in my data drives
[11:19] <koshar1> ActionParsnip gnome do appears to run apps by menu name, ie gedit wont launch but test editor does.
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> mitman: as i said, uninstall pointless old kernels, video drivers you'll never need
[11:19] <mitman> ActionParsnip: I have no kernels or vid drivers on this system
[11:20] <Yetr2> So this machine is behind a proxy server. My sources.list pulls from both external servers on the outside of the proxy, as well as from some internal servers which I have a direct connection to. for some reason, I am unable to get the proxy information set up correctly as a normal user.
[11:20] <mitman> ActionParsnip: I installed this server like 3 weeks ago, never did apt-get upgrade after it was running
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> mitman: well you do have a kernel
[11:20] <mitman> ActionParsnip: yes one only
[11:20] <Yetr2> I have http_proxy & no_proxy set in enviroment.
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> mitman: ok just checking
[11:20] <sheryl> ActionParsnip, alps is detected by using xinput list
[11:20] <mitman> I made huge partitions and I made them all seperate
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> mitman: read    dpkg -l | less
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> mitman: then make a note of anything you can uninstall
[11:21] <Aperculum> how do I use intrepid-backports repo?
[11:21] <Yetr2> I have my apt.conf set up to support proxy servers for all, with one server listed as a direct connection(internal machine)
[11:21] <Yetr2> if I login as root and run the update command for apt, I pull all the indexes and stuffs easily with no trouble
[11:21] <mitman> I don't have many things installed on the system.. only about 7 pages of packages
[11:22] <mitman> like i said, I only installed what was needed.. this server is a file server / domain controller
[11:22] <mitman> and print server
[11:22] <Yetr2> if I try running the update via sudo or through the gui interface, it failes to pull anything
[11:22] <mitman> there's really no reason why / should be full
[11:22] <mitman> will fsck do anything to fix it?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Yetr2: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:22] <Yetr2> ActionParsnip: nope, fails.
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Yetr2: can you give a bit more information please
[11:23] <Yetr2> sure, would you like some output?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> Yetr2: pastebin the whole output of the command and lets see what we have
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> mitman: its worth a read, just to check
[11:23] <Jamie> Yay! Ubottu IS online again.
[11:24] <Yetr2> hmm... I was hoping that pastebinit wouldn't fail like that
[11:25] <mitman> I am trying to load that website
[11:25] <bios> hello pipl
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> mitman: possibly,the partition will need umounting
[11:25] <bios> ActionParsnip: hello
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> hi bios
[11:26] <bios> ActionParsnip: I live in Ua
[11:26] <bios> ActionParsnip: help you
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> ?
[11:26] <mitman> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/154600/ check it out, my df and du output
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> mitman: can you please use df-h instead of just df
[11:27] <Yetr2> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/154601/
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> mitman: /var is fairly chunkified
[11:28] <mitman> ActionParsnip: i think i figured it out.. I have 2 raid setups.. my ubuntu distro and then I have /ldapdata and /ldapbackup on another drive in two partitions
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Yetr2: http://commodore.verizon.com doesnt exist
[11:28] <mitman> ActionParsnip: looks like /ldapbackup is not mounting during boot and thats where i do my nightly snapshot backups
[11:28] <cylonia> How does one configure eth0 network interface ? After recent update 2 laptops running ubuntu intrepid lost internet connection ... TIA
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> mitman: sounds likely
[11:29] <Yetr2> ActionParsnip: that would be because it isn't routable from the interwebs, that would be my internal server
[11:29] <Yetr2> :)
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> Yetr2: i see
[11:29] <mitman> ActionParsnip: so, how do i resolve this problem?  The UUID during boot is showing that it doesn't exist
[11:29] <mitman> ActionParsnip: but fdisk shows the partition
[11:29] <bazhang> bios, #ubuntu-ru for help in russian
[11:30] <bios> bazhang: ban
[11:30] <bios> bazhang: (
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> Yetr2: then you have zero other repos enabled so util you get into the network that can access that server you are stuck
[11:30] <sawyer90> when 9.04 will coming?
[11:30] <bazhang> bios, /join #ubuntu-irc
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> Yetr2: if you add some public repos you will get updated
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty
[11:30] <bios> bazhang: fencks
[11:31] <xie_> hello
[11:31] <Yetr2> the server commodore running apt-mirror, it's up to date with the public mirrors
[11:31] <Yetr2> ActionParsnip: ^
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> Yetr2: then add some pulic servers to you sources or you wont get updates
[11:32] <Yetr2> ActionParsnip: ok, but my issue is, if I login as root, `su -`, `sudo -i` etc, and run `aptitude update`, for some reason, the apps do run, and I do pull the indexes and etc.
[11:32] <mikebeecham> so..Jaunty Jackalope...WOW!
[11:33] <wtv> i just can't wait for jaunty
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Yetr2: do not use sudo su
[11:33] <mikebeecham> techie question already though...is there any way to turn off the notification panel for individual elements?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Yetr2: you can and most likely already have damaged file ownerships. use sudo -i
[11:33] <un|matrix> is it possible to change the font color ONLY for gnome-panel ?
[11:33] <hbekel> ActionParsnip: how's that?
[11:33] <Yetr2> ActionParsnip: you need some caffine or something then, cause you read that wrong.
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> Yetr2: its just a warning of sudo su
[11:34] <sin|g|> \nick tensor
[11:34] <sin|g|> #nick tensor
[11:34] <rumpel> aaaaarg... i cant stand it anymore! How do i upgrade to RC 9.04 =8)))
[11:34] <rumpel> lol
[11:34] <rumpel> apt-get dist-upgrade -force -now -cantstanditanymore ?
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> hbekel: sudo su doesnt configure the environment correctly and is not advised, you will see people coming n here saying they cant open suchnsuch a file and you find its miraculously owned by root
[11:35] <wtv> un|matrix: right click on desktop > appearance prefs> fonts tab
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> hbekel: sudo -i gives power but the user is the user, not root
[11:35] <SDr> hi
[11:35] <hateball> !jaunty | rumpel
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> hbekel: sudo su also implies the root account isenabled which is a bad idea in itself
[11:35] <rumpel> ntx
[11:35] <SDr> how to add a dictionary to hunspell in order for enchant to recognize it?
[11:35] <wtv> sin|g|: the command is '/nick'
[11:35] <un|matrix> wtv: there's no "gnome-panel" font
[11:36] <wtv> un|matrix: try 'Desktop font'
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> Yetr2: theres no way for anyone but your admins to say why your repos work or dont as they arent managed by the ubuntu team
[11:36] <un|matrix> wtv: changes more than i want
[11:36] <un|matrix> wtv: nevermind tho, i found a way to change it... it's pretty hackish as usual for gnome tho
[11:37] <darko> hey where can it cpopy/paste online?
[11:38] <Yetr2> ActionParsnip: that admin would be me, I know how it's managed, but the issue is obiviously on this client side, what ever is screwing up the enviroment and preventing me from running the update apps normally (via gui). I would like to see if I can get that fixed.
[11:38] <wtv> darko: what do you mean?
[11:38] <hateball> !pastebin | darko
[11:39] <darko> i need to copy/paste something online
[11:39] <darko> to show you guys
[11:39] <wtv> yeah follow thw link hateball gave you
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> Yetr2: if the system connects to the web and the repos are logically linkable, its not an ubuntu issue. its something with teh settings on the 3rd party (your) servers or security
[11:39] <hbekel> ActionParsnip: i have been using su for years on linux, with or without login in via -, and i've never had any files "miraculously owned by root"...
[11:39] <koshar1> can i remove carriage returns in gedit?
[11:40] <mitman> ActionParsnip: can you have a look at my fstab and fdisk, my /dev/sdb6 stopped mounting during boot for some reason
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> hbekel: well its disabled in linux for a great many reasons
[11:41] <mitman> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/154602/
[11:41] <un|matrix> wtv: just in case anyone wants to know: there's a neat tool called gnome-color-chooser that enables u to customize your panels
[11:41] <Jamie> suse still uses su
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> hbekel: you wont get any file maliciously owned by rooy because you ARE root
[11:42] <IIrIIs> bonjour
[11:42] <ndlovu> I want to test a website migration, but the dns lookup still resolves to the old website. so, I've updated my /etc/hosts with the ip address of the new host. if I ping the domain, it returns the new IP address, but if I try to open it in firefox, it loads the old address. can anyone help me figure this out (I have cleared the firefox cache)?
[11:42] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[11:43] <Chymera1> how can I find out what program is grabbing a certain key?
[11:43] <hbekel> ActionParsnip: no, it's disabled in "linux" (ubuntu) for the sole reason that ubuntu thinks it's users need to be protected. And you're contradicting yourself...
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> Yetr2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[11:43] <bios> love english
[11:43] <bios> )
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> Yetr2: the account isnt disabled to annoy or get in the way, its disabled for a reason
[11:44] <Yetr2> ActionParsnip: ok... when logged in as root, using either `sudo -i` or `su -` or switching to tty[1-6]. via Ctrl-Alt-F[1-6]., I can run `aptitude update` or `apt-get update` all I want, and it works as it should every time.  If I'm not logged in as root, ie. my current user, and try to use the gui or just run `sudo aptitude update`, I get errors and aptitude doesn't find anything, with 404's
[11:44] <hbekel> ActionParsnip: again, it's not disabled in "linux" but in "ubuntu"
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> hbekel: true
[11:44] <Jamie> !root
[11:44] <slim|> hi! guys
[11:44] <Tas> Hello
[11:44] <sebbasman> hi
[11:44] <Tas> Say, if I burn the Super Grub Disk to a DVD, does it make any difference?
[11:44] <zaggynl> you can however do sudo passwd :P
[11:44] <sebbasman> I'm having some problems with sendmail at ubuntu
[11:45] <ziroday> zaggynl: thats also a bad idea, do sudo -i
[11:45] <ziroday> Tas: no
[11:45] <Tas> Allright
[11:45] <ndlovu> (asked just before netsplit, reposting) I want to test a website migration, but the dns lookup still resolves to the old website. so, I've updated my /etc/hosts with the ip address of the new host. if I ping the domain, it returns the new IP address, but if I try to open it in firefox, it loads the old address. can anyone help me figure this out (I have cleared the firefox cache)?
[11:45] <Tas> Thank you O:
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> Yetr2: maybe your security on the other side isimplemented to block all users that arent 'root'
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> Yetr2: as i said, its a completely 3rd part thing so is impossible to support
[11:45] <Yetr2> ActionParsnip: it's http... users have no bearing on who can fetch the file.
[11:46] <ziroday> ndlovu: why not type the ip address into firefox?
[11:46] <ziroday> ndlovu: new one that it
[11:46] <ndlovu> ziroday, because the host uses apache virtual hosting, so it needs to request the domain name from the host
[11:47] <ziroday> ndlovu: ah right
[11:47] <Tas> O:
[11:47] <sx07ca4> hi
[11:47] <sx07ca4> is anyone there?
[11:47] <Jamie> yes
[11:47] <slim|> need some help to fix an issue of sound in a hp 3830s laptop
[11:48] <en|gma> i need help here
[11:48] <sebbasman> does anybody knows why i'm receiving this error : "hash map "access": unsafe map file"
[11:48] <sx07ca4> R u the administrator of this chat server or where u located basically?
[11:48] <en|gma> how to clear my ssh identification code?
[11:48] <sebbasman> "permission denied"
[11:48] <en|gma> from terminal
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Yetr2: thn ive no idea but i think you'll get the same answer if you ask later
[11:48] <ziroday> sx07ca4: for freenode help ask in #freenode. For #ubuntu help ask in #ubuntu-irc
[11:48] <Jamie> no me not admin
[11:49] <en|gma> anyhelper?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> en|gma: try renaming ~/.ssh  this will wipe out (but backup all ssh keys)
[11:49] <sx07ca4> where r u jamie..? r u in studying in LUND University
[11:49] <Jamie> no
[11:49] <Yetr2> en|gma: you can delete ~/.ssh/hosts , or you can edit that file and delete the specific line in question.
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> en|gma: Chillout dude, be patient
[11:49] <sx07ca4> I am confused as how this works.thats y am asking
[11:50] <mitman> my drive /dev/sdb6 used to mount to /ldapbackup, now it fails during boot saying UUID is unknown
[11:50] <ahmed> hey all
[11:50] <mitman> any idea how to resolve this?
[11:50] <Jamie> ask here #ubuntu-irc
[11:50] <Guest39209> rumpel here
[11:50] <Jamie> !irc
[11:50] <en|gma> ActionParsnip, i want to clear all my ssh key..
[11:50] <rumpel> hi egypt :)
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> en|gma: then rename ~/.ssh
[11:50] <en|gma> bash: /home/gizmo/.ssh: is a directory <---what is this?
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> en|gma: once you are heppy with the result, you may delete the folder
[11:51] <en|gma> ~/.ssh <-- i already do this at termianal
[11:51] <Yetr2> en|gma: delete ~/.ssh/hosts to erase all ssh keys
[11:51] <dedy> ho
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> en|gma: its you ssh settings and keys, renaming it will allow you to test and give you a rollbackoption should you need it
[11:52] <en|gma> ActionParsnip, i dont know howt..thats why i need help here
[11:52] <Yetr2> mitman, bring up the system without the partition. run fsck on the partition. when you will need to check the partition to see if it was changed/renamed in some way. if so, you can either correct the naming, or edit your /etc/fstab file to reflect the device name (/dev/sdb6) instead of the UUID
[11:52] <nmvictor> hi everyone?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> en|gma: mv ~/.ssh~/.ssh_old
[11:53] <ahmed> rumpel
[11:53] <ahmed> rumpel
[11:53] <ahmed> rumpel
[11:53] <FloodBot1> ahmed: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> gah
[11:53] <ActionParsnip>  en|gma: mv ~/.ssh ~/.ssh_old
[11:53] <mitman> Yetr2 - bring up the system without access to the drive or that partiton?
[11:53] <Guest73338> rumpel
[11:53] <Guest73338> rumpel
[11:53] <Guest73338> rumpel
[11:53] <Guest73338> rumpel
[11:53] <Guest73338> rumpel
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> en|gma: forgot the space
[11:53] <Guest73338> rumpel
[11:53] <Guest73338> egypt hereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[11:53] <Guest73338> rumpel
[11:53] <Yetr2> mitman: do you have physical access to the system?
[11:54] <cylonia> After recent update (pulseaudio and tzdata) 2 laptops lost their internet connection ... Right-clicked nm-applet > Edit Connections and added eth0 info but this doesn't change anything ... any pointers to a nice howto would be very welcome, TIA
[11:54] <en|gma> ActionParsnip, ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer<--what is this mean?
[11:54] <ziroday> cylonia: does your device appear in ifconfig -a?
[11:54] <cylonia> ziroday: yes it does
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> en|gma: you timed outdue to inactivity most likely, websearch it
[11:54] <nmvictor> I'm having trouble with my apache,when i start it at the terminal i get the message apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER},any idea what I should do?
[11:55] <ziroday> cylonia: how about doing dhclient eth0, does that connect you to the internet?
[11:55] <kaushal> hi
[11:55] <ziroday> nmvictor: change the username to one that exists. Take a peek in /etc/init.d/apache2
[11:55] <cylonia> ziroday: checking ... i'm on a live CD and need to get to the other machine to try
[11:55] <mitman> seems it had some problems, fsck asking about inode stuff
[11:55] <ziroday> cylonia: no worries, take your time :)
[11:55] <mitman> i am assuming Y for all
[11:56] <Yetr2> mitman: fsck -y /dev/sdb6
[11:56] <ziroday> mitman: usually the best way to go
[11:56] <nmvictor> thanks ziroday,let me try that.
[11:56] <Yetr2> mitman: if fsck can't fix it, most likely, you wouldn't have been able to fix it manually anyways. :D
[11:57] <slim|> i can only use my headphones no sound from speakers
[11:57] <slim|> why ??????
[11:57] <ob1> anyone know hot to detect modem on ubun 8.1 my laptop is travelmate290
[11:57] <ziroday> slim|: does unplugging your headphones help?
[11:57] <kaushal> will this work for ubuntu 8.04
[11:57] <kaushal> https://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=248
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> ob1: usb or internal modem?
[11:57] <ob1> internal
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> ob1: then run  lspci in a terminal
[11:57] <ob1> It used to work on ubun 7
[11:57] <ziroday> kaushal: yes
[11:58] <mitman> wow this is wrecked..
[11:58] <maxagaz> is there something better than tsclient ?
[11:58] <nmvictor> hey,Ziroday,i appreciate your hel,cold you please tell me where to get the config file?
[11:58] <Yetr2> slim|: there are different volume controls for your sound card. when you look at the gui volume control, you are probably only looking at a small selection of the volume mixers available.
[11:58] <ziroday> nmvictor: which one?
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: considering canonical are selling it and canonical make ubuntu i'd say yes 100%
[11:58] <mitman> okay, next issue.. lets say this fixes it.. i have the drive mirrorer but disconnected the mirror.  Any way to make it mirror the drive I am currently fixing?
[11:58] <mitman> using RAID
[11:58] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: thanks
[11:58] <kaushal> ziroday: Thanks
[11:59] <kaushal> so it should work for any laptops right :)
[11:59] <nmvictor> ziroday:where i should change the username
[11:59] <Yetr2> slim|: you could try using `alsamixer` from command line which displays all by default, or you can change the settings on your gui volume settings app via properties
[11:59] <Yetr2> mitman: hardware or software raid?
[11:59] <ziroday> nmvictor: /etc/init.d/apache2 should have it as an option
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> !username
[11:59] <cylonia> ziroday: running that command via sudo in tty seems to work, i get a renewal in 3046 seconds message, but in X i still have the network icon showing no network devices available ..
[11:59] <ob1> 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller (rev 03)
[11:59] <ob1> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[11:59] <ob1> 00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 03)
[11:59] <ob1> 01:00.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6306 Fire II IEEE 1394 OHCI Link Layer Controller (rev 80)
[11:59] <ob1> 01:01.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[11:59] <FloodBot1> ob1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:59] <Chymera1> how can I find out what program is grabbing a certain key?
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> ob1: use pastebin
[12:00] <ziroday> cylonia: thats correct. Can you connect to your internet?
[12:00] <mitman> Yetr2 - it was software raid, I was having I/O errors and this issue so disconnected the HD and kept only one to get my system back to normal
[12:00] <mitman> Yetr2 - next step once working is to make the disconnected drives get in a raid setup again
[12:01] <mitman> software raid
[12:01] <cylonia> ziroday: alas no .. that update also knocked out keyboard/touchpad on both machines, i guess i'll need to reinstall ?
[12:02] <ziroday> cylonia: ouch, it most certaintly shouldn't have. Reinstall is likely to be quickest route, but probably not the most preferable :)
[12:02] <ziroday> cylonia: tried using an older kernel?
[12:03] <jelly12gen> danmn that flood noobs
[12:03] <cylonia> ziroday: yes i agree, but i have backups ... not tried older kernel, gonna give that a shot thx
[12:03] <badfish69> what is -J?
[12:04] <Uuu> wow, so many FBots ;) they cause the user list to be flooded by FloodBots!  We can't help you until we know it :)
[12:08] <willisblr> i tried to type this into the command line: mail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(fictitious obviously)
[12:08] <willisblr> and I got a bash error saying it doesn't exist
[12:09] <mitman> say i have /dev/hda and /dev/hdb I want /dev/hdb to be together in software raid with /dev/hda, how do I go about doing that? FYI, /dev/hda and /dev/hdb used to be in software raid, but i disconnected hdb, did some changes on hda, and now want to make hdb match hda (does that make sense?)
[12:09] <willisblr> how can i fix that?
[12:09] <Uuu> Myrtti, but it works for registered users, it seems to... the nick I ask it for is said to be about 3 yrs ago, but I seen him maybe yesterday ;[
[12:09] <Myrtti> Uuu: life is ;-)
[12:09] <Uuu> :)
[12:09] <ziroday> willisblr: you need to install mail, take a look at what bash outputs
[12:09] <Uuu> they should give as a bot
[12:10] <willisblr> the mail command is part of what package
[12:10] <nmvictor> ziroday:well starting is it is issue.I tried running the command you recommended but nothing happens.I guess i need to find the configuration file and maybe change the username.I have no idea where i can get the file,do you have any ide?
[12:10] <Yetr2> willisblr: aptitude install mailx
[12:10] <willisblr> ohok thx
[12:11] <ziroday> nmvictor: yeah, you need to edit /etc/init.d/apache2 and change the APACHEUSER variable
[12:11] <willisblr> OH thanks!!!!!!
[12:11] <ziroday> nmvictor: also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:11] <willisblr> it works !! woot
[12:12] <mitman> Anyone know what behavior drives in software raid will exhibit if one is disconnected say for a day and then reconnected
[12:12] <mitman> will the one disconnected realize it has older data and mirror itself the the newer one?
[12:12] <ziroday> mitman: it depends what type of raid array
[12:12] <ahmed> rumpel
[12:12] <mitman> ziroday: raid 1
[12:13] <Yetr2> mitman: I don't think it will. you'll probably need to start the rebuild.
[12:13] <cwillu_clone> !eol
[12:13]  * MoshutZu Cine stie cu ce sa emit si eu la radio de pe linux? Cum e Sam Broadcaster la Windows
[12:13] <natschil>  kaushal: looking at the big ubuntu logo on the mouse, I'd be very surprised if it only worked on windows.....sortof defeats the point of having a *ubuntu* mouse :)
[12:13] <mitman> Yetr2 - how do I do that? any link?
[12:13] <Yetr2> mitman: dmraid?
[12:13] <nmvictor> ziroday:thanks,i got the file.so should i change it to my username?
[12:13] <cylonia> ziroday: no connection on older kernel either .. confused because "sudo ifconfig eth0 down" and "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" do work in tty, but networkmanager keeps stuck on the "no connection" message .. thanks for the response though, appreciated.
[12:14] <ziroday> nmvictor: sure, or whatever user controls the web stuffs/apache
[12:14] <mitman> hmm, alright.. so currently one of the drives is disconnected.. should I do anything special before i reconnect the old one?
[12:14] <ziroday> cylonia: sorry its not working out for you :(
[12:14] <Yetr2> mitman: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html :D
[12:14] <en|gma> how to pastebin?
[12:14] <ziroday> !pastebin | en|gma
[12:15] <ahmed_> rumpel
[12:15] <hans> yesterday i got msg that i could not identify and got a nick guest12..., today no such msg and my wanted nick is displayed, any explanation ?
[12:15] <ahmed_> rumpel
[12:15] <ahmed_> rumpel
[12:15] <ahmed_> rumpel
[12:15] <FloodBot1> ahmed_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:15] <ziroday> ahmed_: is there something we can help you with?
[12:15] <Yetr2> en|gma: you can install pastebinit, then you can pipe the output of the command into pastebinit, and it'll automatically post the output to pastebin.com
[12:17] <kapipi_v2> Hey, I'm having problems inputting 13:16 [ Cale            ] [ kaminix_       ] [ nille       ] [ wahnfrieden]
[12:17] <kapipi_v2> meh, sorry that went wrong
[12:17] <en|gma> http://paste.ubuntu.com/154626/ <--anyone check this problem pls..
[12:17] <wers> how do I have read and write access to my home partition on windows? i have ext2fsd but it's only read
[12:18] <ziroday> wers: err http://www.fs-driver.org/
[12:18] <kapipi_v2> Oh well. I am having problems inputting at-mark with my danish keyboard. Normally I use alt-gr + 2, but I cant make it input any of the characters that I usually input using alt gr.
[12:18] <wers> ziroday, didnt work for me. it wanted to reformat my ext3
[12:18] <ziroday> en|gma: the server you were trying to connect to rejected you
[12:18] <ziroday> wers: then no luck for you
[12:18] <nmvictor> ziroday:thanks very much
[12:18] <en|gma> ziroday, you mean there reject me?
[12:18] <wers> ziroday, aw. what could be the problem?
[12:18]  * MoshutZu Puya - Ce bine e sa fii peste
[12:19] <ziroday> wers: the inode size is to large, none of the windows drivers work
[12:19] <ziroday> MoshutZu: please don't do that here
[12:19] <MoshutZu> Uhm :|
[12:19] <ziroday> wers: if you do find a solution I would be most interested however :)
[12:19] <hienvh> u
[12:19] <wers> ziroday, what does that mean? hehe. what could be a solution?
[12:20] <ziroday> wers: a driver that can read and write to ext3 drives with large inode blocks. However I have been unable to find one at all
[12:20] <wers> ziroday, what's makes a large inode block? a big partition?
[12:20] <whileimhere> Is there a way in the UBUNTU GNOME desktop to set it up so that on the middle mouse click will show the apps that are running like XFCE does?
[12:21] <Yetr2> whileimhere: probably.
[12:21] <wers> ziroday, the home partition is 113 gb
[12:21] <ziroday> wers: see the first point in http://www.fs-driver.org/faq.html#not_sup_feat
[12:21] <bolt_> is there anyway to solve my problom
[12:22] <whileimhere> Okay is there a way to install XFCE and remove GNOME ?
[12:22] <ziroday> wers: by default ubuntu creates ext3 drives with large inodes since intrepid.
[12:23] <en|gma> ziroday, mean it cant be solve?
[12:23] <ziroday> whileimhere: I believe so, you can install xfce with sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop and then sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop
[12:23] <Yetr2> whileimhere: aptitude install xubuntu-desktop; reboot; aptitude purge ubuntu-desktop;
[12:23] <wers> ziroday, oooh. that enlightened me. yeah, i used intrepid to format that. that leads me to think that i should reformat my home partition for ext4 on jaunty because i will have problems accessing it
[12:23] <ziroday> en|gma: yes, you need to type in the right password/have the right certificate or be on the authentication list or however your ssh server is setup
[12:23] <whileimhere> okay i will go to xfce and try that out.
[12:24] <ziroday> wers: yep :)
[12:24] <bolt_> is there anyway to solve my problom
[12:24] <wers> ziroday, nice. good thing i found out before upgrading my partition for some speed benefits. do you suggest reformating my home partition with the hardy live cd?
[12:24] <en|gma> ziroday, thats why i dont know how to clear ssh key..pls help me..only that can solve me..
[12:25] <hans> is this channel the right one to ask technical questions about configuration problems or am i wrong here ?
[12:25] <bolt_> anyone know how to solve my problom
[12:25] <bolt_> anyone know how to solve my problom
[12:25] <ziroday> en|gma: okay, how is your ssh server setup?
[12:25] <dooglus> what's the package name for 'beep music player'?
[12:25] <ziroday> wers: yep, or one sec
[12:25] <dooglus> !beep
[12:26] <dooglus> !bmp
[12:26] <dooglus> !info bmp
[12:26] <FloodBot1> dooglus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:26] <en|gma> ziroday, im using ubuntu
[12:26] <ziroday> !info bmpx | dooglus
[12:26] <bolt_> anyone know how to solve my problom
[12:26] <dooglus> thanks
[12:26] <bolt_> anyone know how to solve my problom
[12:26] <deuonderer> i've this problem   http://paste.ubuntu.com/154631/
[12:26] <ziroday> en|gma: okay, and what are you trying to do exactly?
[12:26] <en|gma> just tell me how to delete ssh key certficate.
[12:26] <hans> bolt_: repeat your prob, please
[12:26] <dooglus> Package bmpx is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:26] <dooglus> what did I do wrong?
[12:27] <bolt_> Gent fire alarm controler sets the alarm of every 10 minutes
[12:27] <koshar1> dooglus a new fork on bmp is audacious
[12:27] <en|gma> can you pls tell me how to open ssh key certificate?
[12:27] <dooglus> koshar1: bmpx is fine for me - but I can't find it
[12:27] <hans> bolt_: are you kidding ?
[12:27] <dooglus> !universe
[12:28] <ziroday> en|gma: _what_ are you trying to do?
[12:28] <ahmed> i changgggggggggggggggggggggggggg
[12:28] <DeFi> im trying to 'sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 ./filename.iso /mnt/cdrom' but it returns no error yet the directory is empty
[12:28] <ahmed> rumpelllllllllllllll
[12:28] <ziroday> DeFi: does /mnt/cdrom exist?
[12:28] <DeFi> yes
[12:28] <en|gma> ziroday, im trying to delete all my ssh key certificate that im using before..
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:28] <DeFi> and i've tried with /mnt/cdrom, /cdrom and /mnt/iso
[12:28] <DeFi> it worked once
[12:28] <bolt_> no
[12:28] <koshar1> dooglus i think you will find that its been replaced by audacious
[12:28] <DeFi> but never again
[12:28] <DeFi> :(
[12:28] <FloodBot1> DeFi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:28] <ziroday> en|gma: mv -r ~/.ssh ~/.ssh.old
[12:29] <deuonderer>  i've this problem   http://paste.ubuntu.com/154631/
[12:29] <hans> i think i give up ubuntu, this channel is too noisy
[12:29] <DeFi> haha hans
[12:29] <en|gma> ziroday, how i want to open ssh key certification file?
[12:29] <dooglus> koshar1: ok, thanks.  that's installing.  what about 'tor' - I get the same message for that.  has that also been replaced by somethinG
[12:29] <hans> what, is it not ?
[12:29] <cwillu_clone> bolt_, -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:29] <dooglus> ?
[12:30] <wers> ziroday, is it possible to have an ntfs /home? how will that affect performance?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> deuonderer: are you running compiz by any chance?
[12:30] <ziroday> wers: thats really, really not a good idea. Linux was never meant to run on ntfs
[12:30] <koshar1> dooglus i dont know of tor
[12:30] <DeFi> it is, but its once of the best distros around hans
[12:30] <en|gma> mv: invalid option -- 'r'
[12:30] <en|gma> Try `mv --help' for more information.
[12:30] <DeFi> one*
 yes,i do.Could it be that?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> hans: its the official support channel, what did you expect?
[12:30] <en|gma> what is that
[12:30] <cwillu_clone> wers, I'd suggest against it, mainly because the ntfs driver is reverse engineered, and known to have a couple odd failure cases
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> deuonderer: thats what the grey fade is
[12:30] <hans> an answer
[12:31] <en|gma> arghhhh stress using this ubuntu
[12:31] <wers> ooh. thanks ziro and cwillu_clone
[12:31] <cwillu_clone> wers, but there's no reason I can think of off hand why it wouldn't work
[12:31] <ziroday> en|gma: sorry, do mv -R ~/.ssh ~/.ssh_old
[12:31] <dooglus> koshar1: it's short for 'the onion router' - it anonymises your net connection via a chain of proxies
[12:31] <DeFi> never expect that hans...
[12:31] <DeFi> just ask, wait and prey :)
[12:31] <dooglus> !info tor
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> hans: try directing your speech, see how your name highlights when i chat to you, thats not an accident
 mmm i'll have a try...
[12:31] <hans> what does red mean ?
[12:31] <en|gma> mv: invalid option -- 'R'
[12:31] <en|gma> Try `mv --help' for more information.
[12:31] <en|gma>  <--its the same
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> hans: what is your question?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> hans: can you see how when i talk to you it higlights and makes it easier to know when you are being addressed?
[12:32] <ziroday> en|gma: sorry, I'm lost. How are you trying to connect to your server?
[12:32] <vyrgozunqk> hi guys, i'm using dual monitor using merged fbdev, my desktop is extendes to the secondary monitor, but is there any way to make the second monitor to show another desktop ?
[12:32] <hans> ActionParsnip : like this ?
[12:32] <koshar1> dooglus ok iam aware of the app now, but havnt used it so far
[12:33] <hans> no
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> hans: exactly like that, use that in future
[12:33] <en|gma> ziroday, its ok..im tired of using ubuntu
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> hans: you can tab complete names too in most clients
[12:33] <en|gma> i dont have any help here..
[12:33] <en|gma> thanks you all
[12:33] <Yetr2> en|gma: you don't need -R or -r when using mv. there is no such option
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> hans: try typing actio and pressing tab, much easier
[12:33] <ziroday> en|gma: we are trying to help you, I need to understand what you are trying to do
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> hans: much easier in a busy room
[12:34] <Tas> Hello again xD; I have a worthwhile question this time, though
[12:34] <hans> ActionParsnip : actio ?
[12:34] <wers> is there a way to change the inode size of an existing partition?
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> hans: when you first step in ask the room and someone will hopefully reply to you and then you can address them, its that easy
[12:34] <en|gma> i already said 4 times ziroday . i want to delete certifcate key shell that i log-on in terminal using ssh
[12:34] <en|gma> may i can open ssh from gedit
 it stops working when i select unified sniffing, but it doesn't turn to grey
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> hans: type actio then press your tab key, bing it autocompletes
[12:35] <Lasivian> after I boot from an image without installing can that media be removed?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> deuonderer: ok then you may find the previous settings were crashing the app
[12:35] <en|gma> ziroday, understand..i want to open it from gedit..some helper have told me before but i forget
[12:35] <ziroday> en|gma: okay, mv ~/.ssh ~/.ssh_old but that won't help you
[12:35] <Lasivian> I booted from a usb stick and I need to rewrite that stick with a different image
[12:35] <hans> ActionParsnip, i got it
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Lasivian: i believe so
[12:35] <ziroday> en|gma: the files you want are in ~/,ssh
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Lasivian: try it
[12:35] <en|gma> ziroday, how to open it?
[12:35] <hans> ActionParsnip, thank you
[12:36] <Lasivian> ActionParsnip: thanks
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> hans: cool, so whats your problem?
[12:36] <ziroday> en|gma: with a text editor?
 ok..and what i supposed to do?
[12:36] <en|gma> yesssss
[12:36] <ziroday> en|gma: gedit /path/to/file
[12:36] <Yetr2> en|gma: which keys. are you asking for the keys that your server uses? (/etc/ssh/*key*) or the keys that your ssh client uses? (~/.ssh/id_*) or the keys that your client stores from other ssh servers? (~/.ssh/knownhosts)
[12:36] <ziroday> Yetr2: he's all yours
[12:36] <en|gma> yes Yetr2
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> deuonderer: read up on the correct commands to invoke what you want to achieve
[12:37] <en|gma> my client ssh use..
[12:37] <DeFi> i have an iso that i am trying to mount. mount returns no error yet the directory is still empty, can anyone help me figure out why?
[12:37] <a7a> hi
[12:37] <en|gma> Yetr2, my client ssh use..i want to delete it..
[12:37] <en|gma> can you pls tell me how to open it
[12:37] <a7a> rumpel
[12:37] <a7a> egypt here
[12:37] <Yetr2> en|gma: deleting != opening
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> DeFi: sudo mkdir /media/iso; sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /media/iso
[12:37] <en|gma> Yetr2, can you teach me step by step.
[12:37] <en|gma> i want to open the file first
[12:37] <DeFi> ActionParsnip: returns no error but does not work
[12:37] <a7a> rumpel im ahmed
[12:37] <Yetr2> en|gma: you can delete files with rm, or you can open them with your favorite editor.
[12:38] <a7a> where   are you :(
[12:38] <en|gma> Yetr2, im a newbies n i need help with the command
[12:38] <en|gma> im not pro like you..
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> DeFi: can you give the output of: mount
[12:38] <Yetr2> en|gma: `gedit id_*`
[12:38] <a7a> i dont know why i bannd
[12:38] <DeFi> ActionParsnip: nothing.
[12:38] <Yetr2> en|gma: that will open all files in the current directory named id_*
[12:38] <en|gma> gedit id_*` <--do this in terminat?
[12:39] <en|gma> terminal.
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> DeFi: well it should output where and how your partitions are mounted
[12:39] <Yetr2> en|gma: if you so want to. `gedit ~/.ssh/id_*`
[12:39] <en|gma> yeah i want that command!!
[12:39] <DeFi> ActionParsnip: well it outputs nothing, what must i do? :/
 in the terminal it tells me "Dissector "ssh" not supported (etter.conf line 67)"...what does it mean?
[12:39] <en|gma> gedit ~/.ssh/id_*<-- do all this in terminal?
[12:39] <a7a> guys
[12:40] <bolt_> nothing
[12:40] <ahmed> please any one help me
[12:40] <DeFi> ActionParsnip: and if i do it a second time with the same dir it says MTAB says its already mounted there
[12:40] <en|gma> Yetr2,  gedit ~/.ssh/id_*<-- do all this in terminal?
[12:40] <ziroday> ahmed: what is not working?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> DeFi: so you dont get anything like this
[12:40] <Yetr2> en|gma: you can do that in terminal, or you can go the long way and start gedit from the applications menu, and use the open file dialogue to open each file you want.
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> DeFi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/154641/
[12:40] <Guest90913> any one call me
[12:40] <en|gma> Yetr2, nothing in there..
[12:41] <dooglus> koshar1: it seems to not be available in the jaunty repos - or it's been renamed maybe
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> deuonderer: there is a script some place with a malformed line, or you are using the script incorrectly
[12:41] <en|gma> Yetr2, i want to gedit the ssh my client key the server i use to connect to my client
[12:41] <DeFi> ActionParsnip: oh, just 'mount', i thought you meant the output of the mount -o loop... commands
[12:41] <DeFi> command*
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> DeFi: yes, thats what i said
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> I said "ActionParsnip: DeFi: can you give the output of: mount "
  do you know how can i solve it?
[12:41] <Yetr2> en|gma: ok, I think you might be confusing something there. Firstly, I remember you renaming your origional .ssh directory to... I think it was .ssh_old
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> deuonderer: no idea man, maybe someone else can chime in, or ask later
[12:42] <DeFi> well sorry ActionParsnip :P
[12:42] <ob1> pls help to read this result http://paste.ubuntu.com/154611/
[12:42] <en|gma> Yetr2, what??
[12:42] <Yetr2> en|gma: and what is your end result that you wish to have? are you trying to set up passwordless ssh connections?
[12:42] <deuonderer> ActionParsnip> ok thank you very much, sorry for my noobness :)
[12:42] <Yetr2> en|gma: ~/.ssh_old/id_*
[12:42] <en|gma> Yetr2, 10 times already i told..i want to delete my client ssh certificate key
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> ob1: ok you have a Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM modem
[12:43] <en|gma> i want to delete my client certificate key
[12:43] <DeFi> ActionParsnip: the last 3 are all /dev/loop0,1 and 2. type iso9660 (rw) on different directories
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> DeFi: ok then those are where the ISO files are muonted
[12:43] <ob1> but I could use modem
[12:43] <Yetr2> en|gma: if you have no .ssh directory, then you have no client key.
[12:43] <en|gma> nothing in there..
[12:43] <DeFi> ActionParsnip: as i said before, the directories are empty.
[12:43] <en|gma> Yetr2, huh..
[12:44] <en|gma> no......
[12:44] <hans> ActionParsnip, pon dsl-provider works fine when ubuntu is running; but when i start the pppoe connection during init, the connection is made whitout changing resolv.conf to the dynamic nameservers
[12:44] <Yetr2> en|gma: pastebin `ls ~/.ssh/` please
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> DeFi: try a reboot, stranger things have happened at sea
[12:44] <DeFi> ActionParsnip: rebooted like 5 times
[12:45] <en|gma> Yetr2, nothin happen
[12:45] <ob1> so, how could I correct the prob to make ubun detect modem
[12:45] <Yetr2> ok...
[12:45] <max39> hi
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> DeFi: if you open the iso with a cd burner does it create a proper disk? have you md5 checked the file (if possible)
[12:45] <DeFi> i dont even want to be mounting an iso but its for testing in a virtual machine... im trying to install packaged from an apt-move generated iso
[12:45] <dr4g> i'm confused as to why my grub menu has lots of numbers instead of  like /dev/sda1
[12:46] <Yetr2> en|gma: then the only other keys you could possibly have on your current machine are the keys that your sshd server uses.
[12:46] <dr4g> UUID=3214325c-....
[12:46] <DeFi> ActionParsnip: the iso mounted fine once...
[12:46]  * bolt_ is not happy
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> DeFi: are the iso files ok?
[12:46] <DeFi> ActionParsnip: i dont have any cd burning or anything other then ubuntu-base on the virtual machine
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> dr4g: it makes sure that the disk that is known as the UUID is mounted where it should be
[12:46] <DeFi> (pretty much)
[12:46] <Yetr2> dr4g: UUID can allow the disks to be a little more dynamic and still be able to boot the same OS even if a user adds/subtracts/moves disks around the sytem.
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> DeFi: did you md5 check the iso?
[12:47] <max39> hello
[12:47] <bolt_> actionparsnip know what to do
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> hans: i'm not sure about that stuff dude, maybe someone else can chime in
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> bolt_: didnt see your question
[12:48] <bolt_> Gent fire alarm controler sets the alarm of every 10 minutes
[12:48] <Yetr2> en|gma: run your ssh commands, and show me the key issue you are having.
[12:48] <wers> ziroday, i have an ubuntu 7.10 64bit live cd. if i use the gparted here to reformat my home partition, it would already be accessible, right? the processor is an amd 64 so no problem with 64 bit
[12:48] <noiz> actioparsnip hey if i dont have No Python OpenGL support is that bad?
[12:48] <en|gma> Yetr2> en|gma: then the only other keys you could possibly have on your current machine are the keys that your sshd server uses. <--this what i mean..
[12:48] <mitman> oyyy, i just fsck'd a partition, when it tries to mount during boot it says device or resource busy
[12:48] <mitman> how do I fix this?
[12:48] <en|gma> Yetr2, can help me how to open it?
[12:48] <bolt_> actionparsnip: Gent fire alarm controler sets the alarm of every 10 minutes
[12:48] <ziroday> wers: I would imagine so
[12:48] <bazhang> !ot > bolt_
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> bolt_: you asked in here about an hour ago, i didnt know then and i dont know now
[12:48] <Yetr2> en|gma: you need to use rootly powers to view sshd server keys
[12:48] <wers> thanks ziroday :)
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> bolt_: if i knew, i would have replied when you asked initially
[12:48] <en|gma> how?
[12:49] <Yetr2> en|gma: `sudo gedit /etc/ssh/*key*`
[12:49] <en|gma> just tell me.because im own this laptop
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> Yetr2: gksudo gedit you mean, surely ;)
[12:49] <Symbiosss> any here give me link, howto cups+samba?
[12:49] <Yetr2> ActionParsnip: meh, I don't use gnome that much.
[12:49] <hans> ActionParsnip, my last question for now: how come that your msgs are in red ?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> Yetr2: but the user you are helping does
[12:49] <en|gma> that the one i mean Yetr2
[12:50] <en|gma> thanks..
[12:50] <en|gma> Yetr2, can i pm u?
[12:50] <DeFi> ActionParsnip: im checking the md5 checksum between the virtual machine i created the iso on and the one im trying to mount now... unfortuantly i can only run 1 of the 2 VM's at a time so its really time consuming.
[12:50] <Yetr2> if you feel you must..
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> hans: because I am typing your name at the start of the line, this makes it highlight
[12:50] <bolt_> oh bother
[12:50] <dazedandconfused> hi
[12:50] <xestlin> hello everyone
[12:50] <younder> My sound doesn't work. I have a Dell Dimension 5150.
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> younder: run:   lspci | grep -i sound
[12:50] <hans> ActionParsnip: like this ?
[12:50] <hans> no
[12:51] <wers> ziroday, i'm going to resize a partition with 128 inode using the intrepid live cd. that wouldnt change the inode size, right? :)
[12:51] <dazedandconfused> I am looking for a spam filter, I understand spam assisn does it, but can this be incorporated in an exchange environment whereby spamassasin lives on the linux box between the firewall and the exchange server?
[12:51] <Symbiosss> how add drivers for automatic intall win drivers in a cups+samba?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> hans: indeed, i use pidgin so my highlighting is different but its the essentially the same deal
[12:51] <xestlin> how i do i work with ssl
[12:51] <ziroday> wers: no only a reformat would
[12:51] <vyrgozunqk> hi guys, i'm using dual monitor using merged fbdev, my desktop is extendes to the secondary monitor, but is there any way to make the second monitor to show another desktop ?
[12:51] <dazedandconfused> if so I will read further about it,just would like to know if it is possible
[12:51] <wers> thanks :)
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> younder: lspci | grep -i audio     sorry
[12:51] <Noqq> Do I need to make a partition? Or when I install Ubuntu does it install itself in a correct place?
[12:51] <maxagaz> i have added two line into my /etc/sudoers file so that the user 'touchscreen' can run reboot and halt command, but it's doesn't work (i'm running it via ssh) : 1. "Cmnd_Alias	SHUTDOWN_CMDS = /sbin/shutdown, /sbin/halt, /sbin/reboot"; and 2. "touchscreen ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: SHUTDOWN_CMDS". What can I do ?
[12:51] <hans> ActionParsnip: like this ?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> hans: yes
[12:51] <ziroday> Noqq: ubuntu will handle the partitioning unless you request to do it yourself
[12:52] <vyrgozunqk> and not to extend the first... e.g. i want to use another wallpaper and stuff..
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> younder: can you paste the line in here please
[12:52] <wers> would i feel a significant difference in performance if i reformat my home partition to ext4?
[12:52] <younder> ActionParsnip:  I get Io Controller (rev 01)
[12:52] <Noqq> ziroday: Is there a chacne it can go wrong?
[12:52] <theunixgeek> Is there a way to copy a disk image to a partition? My disk drive is broken and I want to install Ubuntu. I'm on Fedora
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> younder: thats it?
[12:52] <ziroday> Noqq: less chance then you doing it yourself
[12:52] <younder> ActionParsnip: That's it
[12:53] <hans> ActionParsnip: colored nicknames in preferences, thank you. Bye!
[12:53] <DeFi> sigh, the md5's are different ActionParsnip, now im back to the start and outta ideas on how to transfer the iso across :/
[12:53] <DeFi> thanks for your help anyway ActionParsnip
[12:53] <DeFi> :/
[12:53] <younder> ActionParsnip:  I tried to rebuild the sound kernel today..
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> younder: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/260132-28-sound-drivers-dell-dimension-5150
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> DeFi: md5 check EVERY ISO you download, especially if its an OS disk
[12:55] <DeFi> Does anyone have a simple way to transfer a file from ubuntu console with no extra packages running inside a virtual machine to the host windows pc?
[12:55] <younder> ActionParsnip: thanks, looking into it
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> DeFi: if its a garbaged file you WILL get issues
[12:55] <DeFi> yeah i know ActionParsnip
[12:56] <DeFi> i need a way to transfer the iso
[12:56] <s3r3n1t7_> DeFi, easiest way i can think of is via samba
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> DeFi: then why didnt you?
[12:56] <DeFi> since it corrupts over ftp
[12:56] <shay26> Hello , does Ubuntu have limitation to number of files in a folder ?
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> could use sftp
[12:56] <DeFi> s3r3n1t7_ that would require installing samba
[12:56] <DeFi> i need to keep the ubuntu system clean
[12:56] <s3r3n1t7_> DeFi, define clean
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> shay26: its the limitaion of the partitions fil system, default in intrepid and hardy is ext2
[12:56] <DeFi> with no extra packages
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> *ext3
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> shay26: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3
[12:57] <s3r3n1t7_> DeFi, then what do you have installed that can send or transmit files
[12:57] <Noqq> I don't got the Back-Up program on my Windows XP, how to make back-ups?
[12:57] <DeFi> s3r3n1t7_: its a command line install
[12:57] <DeFi> thats all
[12:57] <s3r3n1t7_> DeFi, then you'll have to install something if you don't want to use ftp.
[12:57] <Bravewolf> How I can install Macintosh charset into Ubuntu? I'm experiencing problem in exchanging e-mail with content-encoding=Macintosh.
[12:58] <DeFi> ftp corrupts everytime
[12:59] <DeFi> i guess ill install ssh and use sftp then..
[12:59] <shay26> ActionParsnip: so ex3 can store 1,000,000 files at the same folder ? or its have some limitation ?
[12:59] <DeFi> have to remove it afterwards
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> shay26: i'd imagine it is limited in some way but i'd imagine its quite vast
[12:59] <noiz> hi i dont have opengl support, how can i get it?
[13:00] <mackk431> sudo apt-get install opengl ?!?!
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> noiz: lspci | grep -i vga
[13:00] <noiz> Actionparsnip 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] (rev 01)
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> noiz: one you know your video card you can research
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> !ati
[13:01] <noiz> Actionparsnip the thing is... in chess when i try to set it on 3d it says i dont have opengl support!
[13:01] <noiz> i have the drivers!
[13:01] <DeFi> s3r3n1t7_: sftp is copying at 500KB/s
[13:01] <DeFi> that is really slow...
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> noiz: if you did it wouldnt moan
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> noiz: do other 3d things work ok?
[13:02] <s3r3n1t7_> DeFi, that's normal, due to encryption
[13:02] <mok0> I'm expecting my Dell mini 10 today. What version should I install on it? I would have thought the LPIA arch, but the download page says i386?
[13:02] <noiz> Actionparsnip well yeah cs does
[13:03] <noiz> Actionparsnip but whit poor fps
[13:03] <SDr> hi
[13:03] <runes> which chat would I use to ask about user groups and how they affect apache
[13:03] <kaushal> natschil_: :)
[13:03] <SDr> how to list the available dictionaries in either myspell, or ispell?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> noiz: ok then maybe the ches thing needs an extra pakage
[13:03] <jhass840> is it possible to get the lastest version of eclipse into the respository?
[13:04] <ziroday> jhass840: file a request in launchpad
[13:04] <jhass840> ziroday: thanks
[13:07] <a7a> rumpel here
[13:07] <ndlovu> does anyone know of a tool to trace an http request?
[13:07] <ndlovu> sort of like traceroute for http
[13:07] <Guest64332> egypt hereeeeeeeeeeeeee
[13:08] <Uqbar> ndlovu: you mean something like tcptraceroute?
[13:08] <mackk431> tracert
[13:08] <JPZ> Hello everyone. I've been checking my mail logs at /var/mail.info and noticed that the system is trying to send emails to root periodically. I dont know how to stop this or even figure out which application is doing this. I'm running ubuntu 8.10 with postfix (SMTP relay config). These  attempts to send root email have been occuring ever since I installed postfix ( from what I can remember)
[13:08] <mackk431> tracert <ip>
[13:08] <mackk431> if you have the domain use host to get the ip out of it
[13:08] <Guest64332> guys
[13:08] <mackk431> or ping <domain> works also to get the ip
[13:09] <Guest64332> i have proplem with updata
[13:09] <zhilong> 哈哈这是什么啊？
[13:09] <Guest64332> can  any one help me
[13:09] <TonyH> hi - quick help request .please
[13:10] <TonyH> I need to recover a neighbours pc
[13:10] <TonyH> ..i need to burn a dvd from the ubuntu live CD....but the drive is locked :( cannot open
[13:11] <ndlovu> Uqbar, mackk431, I'm looking for something that will show me the conversation between my web browser and the web host
[13:11] <Uqbar> ndlovu: which isn't like what traceroute does
[13:11] <ndlovu> Uqbar, fair enough :P
[13:11] <mackk431> how about wireshark ndlovu
[13:11] <Uqbar> ndlovu: try wireshark+
[13:12] <Guest64332> 7abebey wnta b3eed
[13:12] <mackk431> logs all internettraffic
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> TonyH: cd ~/; sudo eject /dev/scd0
[13:12] <Guest64332> msht2 lalamset eyd
[13:12] <Guest64332> mshtl
[13:12] <thiebaude> yo
[13:12] <TonyH> thanks - right back :
[13:12] <Guest64332> mshet fe sakh menb3eed norha by5da3
[13:12] <bazhang> Guest64332, stop that
[13:12] <Guest64332> neset 7abebak sabtney
[13:12] <Guest64332> mrdatsh tasm3
[13:13] <tales2010> how can I install .install files?
[13:13] <Guest64332> help me and i stop
[13:13] <ndlovu> mackk431, I'll see if wireshark+ will do it, thanks
[13:13] <mackk431> you can also use snord if you like the terminal ndlovu
[13:14] <Uqbar> mackk431: snord?
[13:14] <mackk431> snord is a terminal programm
[13:15] <ndlovu> mackk431, what does it do?
[13:15] <mackk431> sudo apt-get install snord
[13:15] <mackk431> for logging internet connections
[13:15] <mackk431> you can log internet connectons
[13:15] <mackk431> connections
[13:15] <Uqbar> mackk431: W: Unable to locate package snord
[13:15] <ndlovu> mackk431, snord or snort?
[13:15] <mackk431> snort sorry *g*
[13:16] <mackk431> did i write something else?
[13:16] <Uqbar> heh. snort just for peeking into HTTP traffic? if one needs to do that in a terminal, then tshark does the job.
[13:16] <zamba> i have a problem with storing files on a cifs mounted share.. problem is that the files are stored as nobody/nogroup with umask 0022.. openoffice is confused by this, since it then opens the file as read-only.. how can i fix this?
[13:17] <tuck_> hi
[13:17] <ndlovu> I'll see how I go with wire/tshark
[13:17] <tuck_> is there a way to move dirs in a filemanagers treeview?
[13:18] <zamba> ubuntu reports that i can download a new restricted driver for my graphics card.. problem is that i have no user that's able to log into X to get the prompt/info for this.. how can i figure out what drivers are available from CLI?
[13:19] <zamba> so i can install the package on all systems?
[13:19] <Kimi> how to open the bootloader ?? i want to add xpud linux to ubuntu;'s bootloader...
[13:20] <fitzgerald> zamba, do u have an nvidia card ?
[13:21] <zamba> fitzgerald: yup
[13:21] <fitzgerald> zamba, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new linux-restricted-modules
[13:21] <zamba> fitzgerald: the GUI reports that it has found some restricted drivers that can be used
[13:21] <younder> I can't fot the life of me get the Manageengine .bin to run
[13:21] <zamba> fitzgerald: ok
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> Kimi: copy the image file to /boot and basically copy most of one of the standing entries but change the image name
[13:21] <Noqq> Can someone help me trough the ubuntu install? I'm stuck at partion part.
[13:22] <younder> s/fot/for
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> Kimi: xpud is awesome but very young rigt now, my boot was 4 seconds on 7,200rpm PATA HDD with 1Gb ram 1.6Ghz CPU
[13:22] <Kimi> ActionParsnip, as for me, its 2.73 secs .... 1 gb ram . 3 ghz processor
[13:22] <Kimi> ActionParsnip, but how to open the bootloader of ubuntu ?
[13:23] <zamba> fitzgerald: no install candidate found for nvidia-glx-new
[13:23] <Kimi> Noqq, dual boot ?
[13:24] <Kimi> i want to know where the boot file of ubuntu is !
[13:24] <mackk431> in gub
[13:24] <Kimi> the xpud site says add those three lines of something
[13:24] <younder> ActionParsnip: In fact I cant run any .bin
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Kimi: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[13:24] <mackk431> grub
[13:25] <mackk431> root/boot/grub
[13:25] <Kimi> ActionParsnip, thanks !
[13:25] <svchost> hey.. there are some intelligent gentlemen in here.. anyone wanna help me out with my homework? lol
[13:25] <fitzgerald> zamba, try "nvidia-glx-180" then
[13:26] <svchost> i don't know how to calculate the usable size of a track or a cylinder
[13:26] <ziroday> svchost: #ubuntu-offtopic or ##homework
[13:26] <svchost> no u
[13:27] <mackk431> cylinder volume?
[13:27] <bazhang> !ot > svchost
[13:27] <younder> ActionParsnip: seriosly. how do I run a .bin file
[13:28] <a7a> who bannd me
[13:28] <ziroday> younder: make sure the file is executable and then /path/to/file.bin
[13:28] <a7a> bazhang
[13:28] <bazhang> a7a, /join #ubuntu-ops
[13:28] <a7a> whats this
[13:29] <svchost> hey, stfu
[13:30] <mackk431> do you mean the "volume" with "useable size"
[13:30] <mackk431> svchost?
[13:34] <histo> ?
[13:36] <histo> a7a: how are you banned if you're here
[13:37] <Pici> histo: They're in -ops dealing with it.
[13:38] <dr4g> how can i apply my useraccount to be a samba user
[13:38] <dr4g> something like smbpasswd or that
[13:38] <AdvoWork> hi there, what log file would access connections be logged under, ie ftp users connecting to my pc?
[13:39] <mackk431> check this out dr4g http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[13:39] <quiksilver> is there a great open source program
[13:40] <quiksilver> for converting mp4's into high quality mp3's?
[13:40] <brianixi11> I can't load Ubuntu. Every version (7,8 or 9) gives me an I/O error.  Help, please.
[13:41] <gravityreloaded> can anyone please help? My hard drives aren't mounting, I need to know command to force mount.
[13:41] <rumpel> @brian insufficent data
[13:41] <mackk431> its in part 1.1 of my link dr4g
[13:41] <brianixi11> What other info do you need?
[13:41] <rumpel> @graviy mount /dev/bla /media/mountpoint
[13:41] <gravityreloaded> actually I can't browse any folder at all
[13:41] <rumpel> @brian from which medium e.g.
[13:42] <gravityreloaded> rumpel can't browse any folder
[13:42] <dr4g> thanks mackk431
[13:42] <brianixi11> I'm trying to load from CD which was burned from ISO.  I Checked the CDs and they are fine
[13:42] <gravityreloaded> rumpel The browser indicates it's starting but then just dissapears without errors
[13:43] <quiksilver> is there a program for converting mp4's into mp3's?
[13:43] <rumpel> @grav which filesystem?
[13:43] <rumpel> @brian booting from CD?
[13:43] <gravityreloaded> rumpel I'm on jaunty maybe I should be in #ubuntu+1?
[13:43] <Dr[H]ouse> hi
[13:43] <mattyb> what's the command to find more detailed sysinfo than uname? i'm talking processor speed and such.
[13:44] <rumpel> @gravity doesnt sound like a jaunty-specific question
[13:44] <svchost> whats the difference between a track and a cylinder?
[13:44] <Pici> mattyb: cat /proc/cpuinfo or perhaps sudo lshw
[13:44] <gravityreloaded> ok
[13:44] <brianixi11> I can boot from CD, just can't install.  version 7 install crashed at 39%, version 8 at 49% and 9.04 crashed at 31%.  It didn't tell me what file wouldn't copy, just an I/O error in each case
[13:44] <mitman> anyone know what dmraid is?
[13:44] <Pici> brianixi11: What speed are you burning the ISOs at?
[13:44] <rumpel> @brian hmm... perhaps errors on harddisc/ssd/Cd-drive/whatever#
[13:45] <brianixi11> I tried 16x, 24x and 32x. Same result.  I reformatted the HD with Windows to lock out any possible bad sectors.  I installed on different partitions, with exactly the same results
[13:45] <rumpel> @brian check your hd or use another installation-device (thumbdrive, etc.)
[13:45] <gravityreloaded> rumpel pessoa@pessoa-desktop:~$ sudo mount /dev/bla /media/sdb1
[13:45] <gravityreloaded> mount: mount point /media/sdb1 does not exist
[13:45] <brianixi11> BTW, windows installs fine
[13:45] <Pici> brianixi11: Try re-burning at the slowest speed that your drive will go.
[13:45] <mattyb> perfect thanks Pici
[13:46] <quiksilver> pleae help me, is there a program i can download in synaptic that allows conversion of mp4's to mp3
[13:46] <mackk431> a track has 2 dimensions a cylinder has 3
[13:46] <rumpel> @gravity you have to "mkdir /media/sdb1/
[13:46] <rumpel> first
[13:46] <mattyb> needed to find out what intel graphics I have to see if I'm going to have Jaunty issues
[13:46] <gravityreloaded> rumpel ok
[13:46] <chaosphere_> @mattyb, try $ cat /proc/cpuinfo
[13:47] <rumpel> @grav you usually only need forced mounts, if its a ntfs-filesystem and locked caused by an unclean unmount or something...
[13:47] <brianixi11> My dad says that it won't work, but my friend says to try mandriva. I really want ubuntu though! help!!!!!!!!!
[13:47] <mackk431> you can build a track with 3 dimensions though but not neccessarily
[13:47] <brianixi11> gtg, bye.
[13:48] <mattyb> ha i just tried to cat kcore and then remembered what it was ;-)
[13:48] <gravityreloaded> rumpel thanks for suggestions but still nothing. My ntfs was closed properly, when not so, it gives error - I get no errors at all
[13:48] <quiksilver> is there a program i can download in synaptic that allows conversion of mp4's to mp3
[13:48] <mackk431> or are you talking of a harddrive svchost?
[13:48] <mackk431> i got you wrong i am afraid
[13:50] <rumpel> @gravi perhaps missing ntfs-parameter?
[13:50] <gravityreloaded> rumpel I can't even open my ext2 / system (root)
[13:50] <gravityreloaded> rumpel I can't browse any foldere except for in a program
[13:51] <histo> quiksilver: ffmpeg
[13:51] <gravityreloaded> rumpel sudo nautilus returns "Segmentation fault"
[13:51] <histo> quiksilver: you might need to get the one from medibuntu though. Last time I checked the one in the repos dind't support mp3
[13:51] <quiksilver> histo: is that better than sound konverter?
[13:51] <histo> !medibuntu | quiksilver
[13:52] <Guest72953> v
[13:52] <rumpel> @grav and browsing in shell works?
[13:52] <Guest72953> 怎么进入中国频道???
[13:53] <Pici> !zh | Guest72953
[13:53] <rumpel> @guest me not :)
[13:54] <gravityreloaded> rumpel I think it happened after I tried to configure amarok
[13:54] <gravityreloaded> rumpel If shell means browsing inside program, yes that works
[13:54] <rumpel> no
[13:54] <rumpel> console
[13:54] <rumpel> bash
[13:54] <rumpel> gnome-terminal
[13:55] <cousin_luigi> hello
[13:55] <cousin_luigi> what is the update applet called?
[13:55] <mackk431> svchost => http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylinder-head-sector cylinder of harddrives
[13:55] <poomalai> hi guys... I am trying to ssh my computer from my office. I have enabled ssh forwarding. is it possible to take a screenshot of particular user's screen?
[13:55] <gravityreloaded> rumpel the terminal is fine
[13:56] <Guest72953> 问一下,,怎么换频道....比如说我想进中国的频道
[13:56] <gravityreloaded> rumpel but betabox refuses to play
[13:56] <gravityreloaded> *beatbox*
[13:56] <Tr3y0> @poomlai if you use remote desktop
[13:56] <rumpel> @gravi no idea
[13:56] <erUSUL> !cn | Guest72953
[13:56] <macfudd> how do I save console output of a script to a file?
[13:56] <Tr3y0> @poomlai i belive ssh will only connect you to terminal screen  of other console
[13:57] <krayon> Could someone tell me what boot parameter I can pass to do a command line install using the 8.04 alternate image?
[13:57] <gravityreloaded> rumpel should I try to remove amarok?
[13:57] <hateball> macfudd: redirect with >. eg: ls ~/somedir > somefile.txt
[13:57] <histo> krayon: cli
[13:57] <rumpel> @grav i would test it
[13:57] <macfudd> i don't understand
[13:57] <histo> krayon: at the prompt type cli rather then hitting enter.
[13:57] <gravityreloaded> rumpel funny movie player CAN play a cd
[13:58] <rumpel> gnome-screenshot from console seems to create screenshots of Gnome-Sessions...
[13:58] <gravityreloaded> I'll try
[13:58] <rumpel> @gravi i only use vlc.. for everything...
[13:58] <mackk431> well a track on a harddisc is 2 dimensional also and a cylinder is 3 dimensional also thats interesting
[13:58] <nmvictor> Hi guys,I started apache but the terminal echoed this,:(13)Permission denied:make_sock:could not bind to address <IP_ADDRESS>.80.no listening sockets available,shutting down.
[13:58] <krayon> histo: Thanks a bunch ... I'll give it a shot ... I just wish the boot up screen could have told me that *sigh*
[13:58] <Tr3y0> @rumpel good  choice ;) i use songbird for songs sometimes  but not often
[13:59] <gravityreloaded> I had a friend who regularly used amarok on hardy
[13:59] <macfudd> oh right, thank you
[13:59] <nmvictor> anybody with the solution to that?
[14:00] <histo> krayon: well I think even after the boot up screen you can still do a command line install.  I believe you hit F6 or something for options it says at the bottom.
[14:00] <rumpel> @nmvictor starting as root works?
[14:00] <rumpel> or sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start ?
[14:02] <gravityreloaded> rumpel removing amarok fixed rythmbox but still can't browse any folder at all
[14:03] <gravityreloaded> what could it be?
[14:03] <quiksilver> is soundkonverter the best for convertin gmp4's to mp3?
[14:03] <rumpel> if its fine in console... no idea
[14:03] <nmvictor> rumpell:thanks,that almost worked expect the error echoed changed to this (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address <IP_ADDRESS>:80.no listening sockets available, shutting down.Unable to open logs
[14:03] <gravityreloaded> I get a segmentation fault in nautilus
[14:03] <gravityreloaded> ?
[14:04] <gravityreloaded> :s
[14:04] <rumpel> @nmvictor sure, that your account is listed in /etc/sudoers ?
[14:05] <rumpel> hmm..
[14:05] <nmvictor> @rumpel how do i go about that
[14:06] <gravityreloaded> this is really wierd - I got a folder to play from dvd now I can't browse that either
[14:06] <gravityreloaded> yet the music is still going
[14:06] <gravityreloaded> :p
[14:06] <JuJuBee> Can someone help me wtih rsync?  I wish to backup /home (as root) while preserving file ownership and permissions.  I tired using the -a switch, but it still says root owns all files and folders.
[14:07] <gravityreloaded> JuJuBee you can change permissions with sudo nautilus I think
[14:07] <JuJuBee> after backup?
[14:08] <gravityreloaded> I don't know what rsynch does
[14:08] <gravityreloaded> sorry I'm new here
[14:08] <gravityreloaded> haven't tried backup yet
[14:08] <scunizi> JuJuBee: why are you backing up /home as root?
[14:08] <rumpel> @juju needs --numeric-ids, if backup is stored on a server, where not every user is registered
[14:08] <Pici> !tab
[14:09] <JuJuBee> rumpel: not sure what that means?
[14:09] <JuJuBee> What if I am only using rsync to backup to a portable hd?
[14:09] <rumpel> @juju try -azve
[14:10] <unop> JuJuBee, what filesystem on the portable HDD ??
[14:10] <histo> !tab | rumpel
[14:10] <rumpel> tab doesnt work in xchat, if i adress via @user...
[14:10] <rumpel> old, bad habbit, sorry ^^
[14:11] <JEEBcz> rumpel, you can still do @<space>username
[14:11] <JEEBcz> :)
[14:11] <JuJuBee> rumpel: not certain, how do I check?
[14:11]  * oscarx pen
[14:11] <gravityreloaded> rumpel I also can't see the files on my desktop - I just did download and can't see it xcept for in Firefox I can open it :s
[14:11] <rumpel> @ JEEBcz ugly ^^
[14:11] <gravityreloaded> :(
[14:11] <nmvictor> hey,i think i checked the file and with the commands listed their,im sure my account qualifies sudo previlages.infact it is the only account on my laptop
[14:11] <unop> JuJuBee,  df -Th
[14:12] <JuJuBee> rumpel: /dev/sdb1 fuseblk ? never heard if it.
[14:12] <unop> JuJuBee,   fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[14:13] <DanDan> I just want to know ... how can I remove some of intrepid files ? as I was trying to upgrade from Hardy to Intrepid .. but I only done a partial upgrade as I got DC from the internet .. after that I tried restarting my laptop but I couldnt get access to my Gnome Desktop only KDE3 .. it was an error in Xorg Server :S ... Plus I was trying to update using Adapt on KDE but I couldnt as most packages were broken :S
[14:13] <gravityreloaded> any ideas?
[14:13] <histo> rumpel: start typing someone's name then hit tab
[14:13] <rumpel> i know tab-completion, tnx ^^
[14:13] <JuJuBee> unop : thanks.
[14:13] <JuJuBee> rumpel:  NTFS
[14:13] <histo> rumpel: then why do you keep @ juju
[14:13] <shauno> I have an odd problem on ubuntu 8.04; I added vim-full today (for syntax highlighting), and now it hangs opening files (whether they exist or not).  I removed vim-full again, ~/.vim* and any spare lockfiles in cwd, but still no go.  Any ideas?
[14:13] <Uqbar> JuJuBee: rsync -a must NOT say root owns everything after the copying. isn't it a problem on the destination filesystem?
[14:14] <DanDan> so anyone can help ? ...
[14:14] <Uqbar> aaah, NTFS
[14:14] <unop> JuJuBee, welll, there you go - NTFS has no capability of storing unix permissions and ownership
[14:14] <rumpel> @histo bad, old, very old and nasty habbit and to old to learn new tricks i guess ;)
[14:14] <JuJuBee> bummer.  guess I have to reformat then
[14:14] <histo> JuJuBee: how is the destination mounted
[14:14] <JuJuBee> automatically
[14:14] <scunizi> DanDan: if you have a seperate /home the easiest solution is to reinstall fresh leaving the old home intact and unformatted.
[14:14] <rumpel> yeah, use a real filesystem :)
[14:14] <zamba> fitzgerald: nah.. that didn't work
[14:14] <JuJuBee> plug in and viola, its mounted.
[14:15] <JuJuBee> Yea, I should have reformatted before using.
[14:15] <zamba> fitzgerald: installing nvidia-glx-180
[14:15] <JuJuBee> I guess I will do that.
[14:15] <DanDan> scunizi : like installing ubuntu all over again :| ?
[14:16] <scunizi> DanDan: yes.. but you have to have a seperate /home (ona different partition)
[14:16] <fitzgerald> zamba, "aptitude search nvidia"
[14:16] <quiksilver> errrrrrrrrr
[14:16] <quiksilver> how do i convert mp4's to mp3 please
[14:16] <gravityreloaded> can anyone suggest a solution for my browsing problem?
[14:17] <DanDan> Scunizi : .. umm I dont think I want to do that lol I want a different Solution
[14:18] <DanDan> Scunizi : thnxx anyways
[14:19] <zamba> fitzgerald: how do i know which one to pick?
[14:19] <zamba> fitzgerald: i have -71, -96, -173, -177 and -180
[14:19] <fitzgerald> zamba, pick the latest i guess
[14:19] <scunizi> DanDan: ok..if your upgrade was incomplete then at terminal type .. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and see if that fixes some of the broken stuff. after that to eliminate the gnome files you'll have to "search and distroy"
[14:19] <zamba> fitzgerald: picking the latest broke X
[14:19] <scunizi> zamba: what card to you have?
[14:20] <zamba> scunizi: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev a2)
[14:20] <fitzgerald> zamba, then pick something else
[14:20] <zamba> fitzgerald: after i ran nvidia-xconfig
[14:20] <zamba> scunizi: that's what 'lspci' reports, anyway
[14:20] <scunizi> zamba: that's an older card.. I think the -96 driver runs that one..
[14:21] <a7a> hi
[14:21] <a7a> rempul
[14:21] <zamba> scunizi: so install nvidia-glx-96 and then run nvidia-xconfig?
[14:21] <zamba> scunizi: is that the way to install the driver?
[14:21] <sylware> ipv6 tracker seems down
[14:21] <a7a> rumpel
[14:22] <scunizi> zamba: once the -96 is installed you may have to go to System/Admin/Hardware drivers and activate it. (if you haven't looked there already do so).. then run nvidia-xconfig
[14:23] <zamba> scunizi: i'm not able to use X (the GUI) to do stuff like that
[14:23] <zamba> scunizi: the computers are set up with only one user, and it has no privileges
[14:23] <zamba> scunizi: so i have to do this using shs
[14:23] <zamba> ssh*
[14:23] <zacky> hello, my ubuntu doesn't have manual documentation installed, what is the package i need to install it?
[14:24] <histo> zacky: man-db
[14:24] <histo> !info man-db
[14:25] <zacky> thanks
[14:25] <scunizi> zamba: arg.. then install the driver and then run nvidia-xconfig.. you may also try forwarding X via ssh
[14:25] <abicska> hello! could smbdy help me with sharing internet on ubuntu server?
[14:25] <zamba> scunizi: and then i have issues with the monitor :)
[14:25] <cached> how would I go about making my screen resolution something that doesnt show up in System->Preferences->Screen resolution (specifically, either 800x600 or 1024x768)
[14:26] <zacky> histo: what about manual for vim?
[14:26] <histo> !resolution | cached
[14:26] <zamba> scunizi: getting "out of range" errors
[14:26] <DanDan> scunizi : I tried the sudo apt-get update yesterday and it didnt perform all of teh updates i can pastebin the output
[14:26] <histo> zacky: documentation should come with any app you install such as vim etc...
[14:27] <scunizi> DanDan: I can only give you a link for the upgrade that might shed some light..
[14:27] <scunizi> !upgrade | DanDan
[14:27] <scunizi> zamba: on your end or the other?
[14:27] <zamba> scunizi: on the end systems where i need to install the binary driver
[14:27] <zacky> histo: unfortunately the verson of vim i have now doesn't come with manual, should i reinstall it?
[14:28] <histo> zacky: how did you get a system wihtout man?
[14:28] <zamba> scunizi: it's a 16:9 lcd screen with a maximum resolution at 1366x768
[14:28] <thebackwash> zacky: can you type :help from the main screen in vim
[14:28] <zamba> scunizi: running nvidia-xconfig just outputs a set of modes like "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[14:28] <zacky> i think it was min build
[14:29] <zacky> thebackwash: i can't get :help in vim,when i tried :help set, it prompt sorry, no help for set
[14:29] <Pici> zacky: Have you installed vim-full ?
[14:29] <wang_> d
[14:30] <DanDan> scunizi : .. I cant use the update Manager as im getting this error :( >> Couldnt calculate the upgrade " an unresolvable problem
[14:30] <zacky> Pici: i don't think so, i think i should remove the vim, then install it again with full
[14:30] <DanDan> scunizi :
[14:30] <DanDan> Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message:
[14:30] <DanDan> 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.'
[14:30] <scunizi> zamba: try .. xrandr -s 1366x768 or 1360x768
[14:30] <thebackwash> zacky: that's weird.  vim isn't worth learning anyway.  stick to emacs.  :)
[14:30] <Pici> zacky: No, vim-full includes more stuff, just install it in addition to the package already installed.
[14:31] <wang_> d
[14:31] <scunizi> DanDan: I don't have an answer for you sorry..
[14:31] <zamba> scunizi: "Can't open display"... ;)
[14:31] <zacky> thebackwas: actually i already know vim, i think is great
[14:31] <zamba> scunizi: as i said, i need to do this remotely over ssh
[14:31] <DanDan> scunizi : thnx :)
[14:31] <zacky> Pici: i think the system build with vim-runtime
[14:32] <scunizi> zamba: xrandr isn't gui .. it's a cli call to the underlying system controlling the resolution
[14:32] <zamba> scunizi: still can't open display
[14:32] <Lasivian> is it possible to change ubuntu to not require a login?
[14:32] <zagabar1> Hi.
[14:33] <scunizi> zamba: have you tried hand editing the xorg.conf file?
[14:33] <Lasivian> yes, yes, I know all the reasons it's not a good idea
[14:33] <hateball> Lasivian: Do you want an automatic login, or no password at all?
[14:33] <Lasivian> hateball: automatic
[14:33] <zagabar1> I am thinking about power saving mode. I heard that laptops by default has power saving mode activated. This makes the cpu run really slow. How can I change this in ubuntu?
[14:33] <thebackwash> zacky: maybe you could tell me in #ubuntu-offtopic why people like it so much.  it seems horribly riddled with early-80s workarounds for the hardware limitations of the time.  not like the modern cli/ncurses/whatever programs
[14:34] <hateball> Lasivian: gksudo gdmsetup -> Security
[14:34] <Lasivian> hateball: my theory is to set a timer so my notebook checks my website whenever it's online, if it finds a specific file I have left there then it starts emailing me pictures from the webcam and keylogs, which would be very useful if I lose it or have it stolen
[14:34] <Lasivian> hateball: thanks
[14:35] <zamba> scunizi: but that's not very easy to do on 50+ computers.. :p
[14:35] <zamba> scunizi: i need something that works semi-automatically
[14:35] <zacky> thebackwash: well, its fast and small, you can run it in commandline over ssh, then is highly customizable
[14:35] <histo> Lasivian: use a cron job and a script
[14:35] <zamba> scunizi: getting stuff to work without the nvidia drivers was just a matter of removing the xorg.conf file and then everything worked just fine
[14:35] <maxos> I'm trying to set up some bluetooth hardware but everytime i set it up with kinputwizard it gives me the message: "Failed to create the input device for ___". I get this message with 2 SEPARATE pieces of hardware. Could anyone help with this?
[14:36] <Lasivian> histo: aye, i'm in the middle of upgrading to 9.04 to try and get the screwy acer camera to work
[14:36] <histo> Lasivian: and yes you can have it autologin if you wanted. but you don't need to, to accomplish what you want with the cam.
[14:36] <scunizi> zamba: are you displaying just standard stuff on the monitor or do you want the rotating cube effect available?
[14:37] <zacky> i just found out that, actually i have vim-tiny installed, which is only 832k!!!!!
[14:37] <zamba> scunizi: basically just standard stuff..
[14:37] <histo> Lasivian: System > administrations > Login Window change to the security tab and enable automatic login
[14:37] <scunizi> zamba: then why not use the generic nv driver ?
[14:37] <Pici> zacky: Yes, thats the standard package thats installed, which is why I suggested installing -full
[14:37] <tready29201> what is the other ubuntu channel?
[14:37] <anoop> i am aproblem with sound any help????
[14:37] <hateball> !ot | tready29201
[14:38] <thebackwash> tready29201: #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:38] <Lasivian> histo: thanks
[14:38] <zacky> Pici: i don't really want vim-full, cos it take 128M
[14:38] <tready29201> well, im having problems compiling php5 on server
[14:38] <Lasivian> histo: well, the problem is if nobody is logged in then someone won't likely use the notebook if they find it, they'll just reinstall something new on it
[14:38] <phimic> hi there
[14:39] <zamba> scunizi: what's that called?
[14:39] <Lasivian> histo: I have no sensitive data on it so I might as well let whoever gets their hands on it use it to report themselves
[14:39] <phimic> which package must i install to have a preview pic of movie files  in gThumb picture browser
[14:40] <histo> Lasivian: true the other issue is that if someone has direct access to the hardware the login is useless
[14:40] <scunizi> zamba: :)  it's called nv .. it's already installed and just needs to be called by xorg.conf.. in the driver line of xorg replace whatever is there with nv.  you can also list the correct resolution in xorg for the monitor(s)
[14:41] <thebackwash> zacky: i've always been an ed man myself.  not THAT's lightweight
[14:41] <Kimi> does the cmd "rm -rf /" must be run under sudo or just direct ? if its direct, then anyone can kill my linux ?
[14:41] <thebackwash> now*
[14:41] <zamba> scunizi: so wiping the xorg.conf won't make this work?
[14:41] <tanveer> I NEED SOME HELP
[14:41] <Lasivian> histo: well, if it boots up and it's useable chances are someone will use it rather than reimage it immediately
[14:41] <tanveer> can somne on help me
[14:41] <scunizi> zamba: I'm not sure.  Iyou might consider rebuilding xorg with
[14:41] <ikonia> Kimi: don't worry about it, that command has been safe guarded, yet it's still not wise to suggest it
[14:41] <Pici> !ask | tanveer
[14:42] <tanveer> how do i share files in linux and open them in windows
[14:42] <Kimi> ikonia, means it cannot be run even under sudo ?!!
[14:42] <tanveer> kinda hard to explain
[14:42] <rumpel> @tanveer samba
[14:42] <ikonia> Kimi: coreutils should protect you, you would never want to run that command, so it doesn't matter
[14:42] <scunizi> zamba: sorry small lappy keyboard.. just rename xorg and try.. then you might rebuild it with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[14:43] <tanveer> i have 2 hard drives, 1 has xp the other has ubuntu, how do i access the ubuntu harddrive from Xp?
[14:43] <zamba> scunizi: again.. this is not very unattended install-friendly, as dpkg-reconfigure will ask a few questions, right?
[14:43] <abicska> !ask
[14:43] <Kimi> ikonia, ok . but if someone wants to KILL my computer. they can do it ? cant they ? or dat coreutils will prevent this ocmmand totally ?
[14:43] <scunizi> zamba: all terminal based
[14:43] <ikonia> Kimi: coreutils "should" protect you against that, but it doesnt really matter any more
[14:43] <zamba> scunizi: yeah, but if i have to do the same on 50+ computer i'll go mad
[14:43] <zamba> computers*
[14:43] <ikonia> Kimi: you would also need root access, but as I said, coreutils should protect
[14:44] <scunizi> zamba: are the computer the same?
[14:44] <Kimi> tangentcollision, xp cannot access ubuntu (because ubuntu has ext3 file system) , but ubuntu can access windows drives i think
[14:44] <scunizi> zamba: same basic montior setup?
[14:44] <Kimi> tangentcollision, sorry.. not you :(
[14:44] <zamba> scunizi: yeah, but i know what you're thinking now.. they won't be the same forever.. i will start introducing new computer models..
[14:44] <Kimi> tanveer, ^^
[14:44] <tanveer> okay
[14:44] <abicska> !ask I've Ubuntu Server and I'd like to share internet over it. Its DHCP works properly and i've done maquerading and postrouting and the ipforwarding is 1. I cant ping and the NET isnt working. What shall i do?
[14:44] <Kimi> tanveer, xp cannot access ubuntu (because ubuntu has ext3 file system) , but ubuntu can access windows drives i thin
[14:44] <rumpel> @kimi if someone gains root-access or access with the appropriate permissions... yes...
[14:45] <scunizi> zamba: that's ok.. you can use the same xorg.conf file on all of them
[14:45] <Kimi> abicska, ?
[14:45] <lemmykoopa> I need help formatting a drive
[14:45] <tanveer> can i get any viruses on ubuntu?
[14:45] <Tr3y0> @kimi correct.
[14:45] <zamba> scunizi: what about resolution and stuff like that?
[14:45] <Kimi> rumpel, ok
[14:45] <rumpel> @tanveer yes... but inlikely
[14:45] <lemmykoopa> how do I format my C drive if I'm on my D drive?
[14:45] <abicska> Kimi: 've Ubuntu Server and I'd like to share internet over it. Its DHCP works properly and i've done maquerading and postrouting and the ipforwarding is 1. I cant ping and the NET isnt working. What shall i do?
[14:45] <zagabar1> Does the power management for laptops affect the cpu speed?
[14:45] <lemmykoopa> it keeps giving access denied
[14:46] <scunizi> zamba: fix one first so it works right then copy the xorg.conf across to the next and see.. should work
[14:46] <rumpel> @abic dhcp-server installed?
[14:46] <tanveer> is thier windows movie maker for ubuntu?
[14:46] <scunizi> zamba: do you have a gui on the machine you're working on?
[14:46] <abicska> rumpel: its working properly
[14:46] <Tr3y0> yes our you can use a router as a mini dhcp server @abi
[14:46] <scunizi> zamba: not the one you're trying to fix.. but the one you're using.
[14:47] <rumpel> @abic ping should be repaired first
[14:47] <zamba> scunizi: yup
[14:47] <rumpel> @abic check firewalls, forwarding...
[14:47] <abicska> rumpel: yes but how?
[14:47] <abicska> rumpel: forwarding is ok
[14:47] <dassouki> my computer's manual mentions that my laptop has a maximum memory of 2gb, why is that ?
[14:47] <zamba> scunizi: but i'll just use the driver bundled with X.org
[14:47] <rumpel> do you use firewalls?
[14:47] <abicska> rumpel: how can i check firewall?
[14:47] <tanveer> is thier an alternative for windows movies maker??
[14:47] <zamba> scunizi: too much hassle with this and it basically works
[14:47] <zamba> can't be bothered no more :p
[14:47] <Brucevdk> Kimi: note however that there are ext2/3 drivers available for Windows so that Windows can access your Ubuntu partition
[14:47] <tyler_d> dassouki: b/c they had to limit it somewhere
[14:48] <zamba> i have other issues i have to resolve as well, so
[14:48] <abicska> rumpel: i didnt installed but i think theres one on my ubuntu server
[14:48] <dassouki> tyler_d: so if i put a 2gb stick on top of the 1gb built in
[14:48] <dassouki> will that work
[14:48] <moncky> tanveer: you should have a look at the synaptic package manager
[14:48] <abicska> rumpel: how can i set it up?
[14:48] <rumpel> @abic netstat, nmap...  you can also watch network packets via ethereal/wireshark
[14:48] <Tr3y0> @abi did u set it up?
[14:48] <tanveer> what does the packet manager do?
[14:48] <rumpel> @abi you not generally need a firewall
[14:48] <scunizi> zamba: the one bundled is typically nv or vesa depending on the card installed. I can have ubottu give you the resolution link if you want for more hints and tips..
[14:48] <zamba> scunizi: ok
[14:48] <tyler_d> dassouki: no it will not... your computer may not even recognize the 2GB stick... max 2 GB means your best off going with 2 1GB sticks
[14:49] <scunizi> !resolution | zamba
[14:49] <rumpel> !tab | rumpel
[14:49] <Kimi> Brucevdk, ok.. but usually windows will be installed in ntfs.... and yes.  i understand your reply
[14:49] <anoop> like i can't brows java enble sites too
[14:49] <anoop> how i can find sound card error?
[14:49] <Brucevdk> Kimi: you sure you understand? :-)
[14:49] <moncky> tanveer: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPackage_management_system&ei=bn3sSZXsENvMjAeIzdWeCg&usg=AFQjCNERPinDncIvPbNMZ8Be_X7ytiV3vw
[14:49] <hateball> !sound | anoop
[14:49] <zamba> i have a problem that openoffice is not able to edit files from a cifs mounted share.. the samba server is running in share mode, so all files are created as nobody/nogroup with the standard umask..
[14:49] <moncky> have a look at google
[14:49] <Kimi> Brucevdk, yes ! thanks
[14:50] <hateball> !java | anoop
[14:50] <tanveer> why cant linux use .exe files?
[14:50] <Brucevdk> Kimi: the fact is, if any kind of malware gains acces to your Windows partition it will be able to read and destroy all data from your Ubuntu partition if it so wishes
[14:50] <rumpel> @tanveer it can
[14:50] <hateball> !lnw | tanveer
[14:50] <abicska> rumpel: i dont need a firewall bcuz its in my home for a lan but how can i discover if one is working?
[14:50] <rumpel> @tanveer you can start exe-files with wine e.g.
[14:50] <Kimi> Brucevdk, whoaa ! i never knew this..... so my files are "unsafe"  :( :( :( :(
[14:50] <xxp> o
[14:50] <scunizi> zamba: I have that issue too when I move or create a file from a vm of windows on my ubuntu share.. I have to use chown and chmod to fix.. I haven't found a different solution yet. :(
[14:51] <dassouki> tyler_d: umm any way i can overcome that ?
[14:51] <Kimi> Brucevdk, ^ if i have ext3 windows drive
[14:51] <rumpel> @abicska check running processes
[14:51] <zamba> scunizi: damn