[00:00] <kylemm> soreau
[00:00] <kylemm> soreau what was i aspost to post again?
[00:00] <kylemm> my screen proze
[00:00] <kylemm> froze
[00:00] <mkanyicy> chrome_: use ntfs
[00:00] <kylemm> soreau: sorry my screen forze what do i post again?
[00:01] <soreau> kylemm: Your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file. Here is a command you can use to get a link to it:  sudo apt-get install curl && cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[00:01] <BiPolah> Belias: Is the URL correct?
[00:01] <magicianlord> does debian use upstart
[00:02] <rww> magicianlord: not by default, no
[00:02] <rww> magicianlord: next time you have a Debian question, though, ask #debian.
[00:02] <Belias> BiPolah: let me check
[00:03] <BiPolah> Belias: Ah, it rejects wget connections, hence why you had the -U. wget -r -nc -U Firefox www.tutorialsforblender3d.com
[00:03] <wechat> !ping
[00:03] <kylemm> soreau: okay can i PM you the link?
[00:04] <kylemm> soreau: http://sprunge.us/ehEZ
[00:05] <hiexpo> hola all
[00:05] <mkanyicy> hola hiexpo
[00:06] <soreau> kylemm: You need to install your graphics driver in sys>admin>additional drivers
[00:06] <soreau> kylemm: Or go to #nouveau and see why the open driver isn't working
[00:06] <kylemm> okay i will install it, but it always says system error or something ill tell you what it says when its finished
[00:07] <soreau> kylemm: The nouveau drivers only support certain cards for 3D since nvidia wont release hardware specs to the public
[00:07] <kylemm> soreau: so most likly my drivers wont let me do the effects?
[00:08] <soreau> kylemm: You probably should just install the proprietary nvidia driver
[00:08] <soreau> kylemm: From sys>admin>additional drivers
[00:08] <kylemm> soreau: the one that says recommended?
[00:08] <soreau> kylemm: yes
[00:08] <pinkey> when I install a package with software-center, where does it store the .deb file it downloaded?  (I would like to install it on multiple machines w/o re-downloading)
[00:08] <hiexpo> kylemm, install the propiorty drivers
[00:08] <xangua> !aptoncd | pinkey
[00:09] <pinkey> isn't there just a directory where it puts them?
[00:09] <kylemm> i can choose between two. NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version 173), or NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version current) [Recommended].  Should i install both or just the recommended
[00:09] <soreau> kylemm: Install the one that says recommended
[00:10] <kylemm> okay. it always says an error when its finished, i dont remember it so i will install it and tell you what it says
[00:10] <hiexpo> pinkey, install bleachbit and you will see exactly where it is at than you can go to that folder and just grab the deb without having to use aptoncd
[00:11] <mkanyicy> pinkey: i think /var/cache/apt/archives
[00:13] <doodlenox> hello.. im wondering which download to get for use on my 6 year old dell laptop
[00:13] <Desg_xd> anyone help me install my network card drivers so i can use wireless
[00:13] <k1rk> doobien, specs?
[00:13] <kylemm> soreau: when its done installing driver it says SystemError: install Archives() failed and it doesn't install it
[00:13] <magicianlord> doodlenox: regular ubuntu 10.10
[00:13] <k1rk> erm I meant doodlenox
[00:13] <k1rk> lol
[00:13] <magicianlord> doodlenox: 32bit gnome
[00:14] <k1rk> magicianlord, assuming he has enough ram.
[00:14] <hiexpo> doodlenox, i would get 10.04 lts 32bit
[00:14] <soreau> kylemm: You probably have a repo issue. Does 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' return without errors?
[00:14] <wechat> aptitude download <package>
[00:14] <Desg_xd> BCM4321 my networks cards chip
[00:14] <magicianlord> kirk: it's the better choice, no matter what. lxde and xfce dont differ much with ram usage than gnome
[00:14] <magicianlord> that is a myth
[00:15] <wechat> lubuntu liter
[00:15] <kylemm> soreau: its asking me if i want to continue
[00:15] <k1rk> doodlenox, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[00:15] <soreau> kylemm: How are you going to find out if it returns without error if you do not continue?
[00:15]  * soreau doesn't understand some of these people sometimes
[00:16] <k1rk> lmao
[00:16] <soreau> I ask for 'glxinfo|grep renderer' and they're telling me the output is "glxinfo isn't installed." Is it that hard to just read and think for two seconds?
[00:16] <hiexpo> hehe
[00:16] <kylemm> soreau: well its at %6 now
[00:16] <vulpine_> I need some help; What would be the best way to convert a PAL dvd to an NTSC one?
[00:16] <doodlenox> thank you
[00:16] <soreau> kylemm: Good. Now let it finish updating your system, then try again
[00:16] <hiexpo> !media
[00:17] <doodlenox> is there a torrent place where i can download it quicker
[00:17] <kylemm> okay, im running this off of a USB, so it will not affect my computer right?
[00:17] <xangua> doodlenox: ubuntu.com
[00:17] <soreau> vulpine_: Just rip it and use devede to recreate it
[00:17] <magicianlord> kylemm: no, as long as you dont formt anything
[00:17] <hiexpo> doodlenox, there is a torrent click alternative download
[00:17] <k1rk> doodlenox, on the Ubuntu download page, to the bottom left "Alternative downloads"
[00:17] <doodlenox> thaaaaanks
[00:18] <soreau> kylemm: You are doing all of this in a live session or is ubuntu installed to the usb stick?
[00:18] <kylemm> yes
[00:18] <vulpine_> soreau: But wouldn't that eliminate the original DVD menu?
[00:18] <Chriss_> Hey peeps is it possible to recover a file on my hdd using ubuntu even if I already erased my windows xp
[00:18] <soreau> vulpine_: yep.
[00:18] <kylemm> its in a live session on a USB
[00:18] <vulpine_> soreau: so then isn't there a way to rip it with the dvd menu?
[00:18] <offsense> is there any way installing ubuntu unity in lucid lynx??
[00:18] <doodlenox> whats the differce between i386 and AMD
[00:18] <soreau> Chriss_: Depends on how well you erased it and what exists in it's place on the drive now
[00:19] <doodlenox> which sould i go for
[00:19] <hiexpo> Chriss_, unlikely
[00:19] <soreau> vulpine_: I have no idea
[00:19] <vulpine_> soreau: alrighty, well thank you :D
[00:19] <wechat> !unity
[00:19] <kylemm> its funny because this operating system runs faster then my windows vista that has 1TB hard drive and 6GB ram
[00:20] <ElderDryas> kylemm: why didn't you say it was a live cd hours ago?
[00:20] <magicianlord> kylemm: vista is slow. the ram doesnt affect it much, beyond 1gb
[00:20] <doodlenox> so which is it i386 for an old dell laptop or amd
[00:20] <wechat> offsense: sudo aptitude install unity (or google for another PPA)
[00:20] <hiexpo> kylemm, well sure it does linux uses very little resources
[00:20] <magicianlord> kylemm: you can even tweak ubuntu to be faster, if you know how
[00:20] <Chriss_> really is it not possible to just mount the drive
[00:20] <kylemm> i didn't know it would affect anything if is live or not
[00:21] <magicianlord> kylemm: live is just to try it out.
[00:21] <kylemm> ya. i mainly got this to test out the desktop effects
[00:21]  * ElderDryas decides to quit and just go get supper
[00:21] <kylemm> if the desktop effects are good ill get it
[00:21] <offsense> wechat: let me try, thnx
[00:21] <magicianlord> kylemm: if you have an nvidia card, you would need to install the nvidia drivers for hte effects to work
[00:22] <magicianlord> intel or ati, not so much
[00:22] <kylemm> it doesn't let me install the recommended one
[00:22] <prakash_> I'm running 11.04 and sudo works with my password in a terminal, but my password is not accepted on the desktop for admin purposes, eg synaptic package manager - any ideas?
[00:22] <hiexpo> kylemm, there are a lot of things you are not going to be able to do useing the live system but it gets better
[00:22] <kylemm> says system error
[00:22] <doodlenox> should i download the ati or amd for a dell laptop
[00:22] <soreau> kylemm: Why are you trying to get compiz working on a live usb? Why not just install it to the hard drive and actually use it (since every time you reboot, all your changes are lost)
[00:22] <magicianlord> kylemm: installing the drivers is best to do after the install. what is your graphic card?
[00:22] <magicianlord> soreau: he may not feel safe yet with replacing Vista
[00:23] <jrib> !11.04 | prakash_
[00:23] <kylemm> well i dont want to lose all my files on my other opeating system. This is just to test it out. If its good ill prob get dsi
[00:23] <kylemm> dis
[00:23] <soreau> magicianlord: He has 1TB hdd, I don't think he needs to replace anything
[00:23] <kylemm> im running this on a 8GB USB stick
[00:23] <righteousRat> has anyone in here ever been investigated by the fbi for hacking?
[00:23] <rww> !ot | righteousRat
[00:24] <magicianlord> soreau: it's not about space. its aboutcompatibility and knowing how to navigate
[00:24] <soreau> kylemm: The only way to get proprietary nvidia drivers working on a live cd is to restart X. So after installing nvidia-common package, log out to restart X
[00:24] <VCoolio> doodlenox: if it's an older laptop i386, not amd (this is cpu related); ati is videocard
[00:24] <soreau> magicianlord: How do you know what he wants?
[00:24] <righteousRat> rww sorry about that...i just figured a room full of smart people would be the proper place to ask that question
[00:24] <magicianlord> soreau: it's obvious
[00:24] <hiexpo> unix will run on anything doodlenox
[00:24] <kylemm> so soreau is that all i have to do?
[00:24] <kylemm> this thing im running is at %80
[00:24] <wechat> offsense: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/InstallationGuide
[00:25] <soreau> kylemm: Yes, and it may not even work. You're better off installing it to a partition on your hdd
[00:25] <kylemm> so do i need to complete this installation?
[00:25] <prakash_> ubottu: is there an easy way to downgrade or should I reinstall?
[00:25] <kylemm> its at %81
[00:25] <soreau> kylemm: Or install ubuntu to the usb drive, depending on how big it is
[00:25] <rww> !downgrade | prakash_
[00:25] <doodlenox> ubuntu-10.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[00:25] <doodlenox> is that good?
[00:26] <doodlenox> for old dell laptop
[00:26] <soreau> kylemm: If you have 6GB of ram, it shouldn't run out of space quickly so it should be fine
[00:26] <doodlenox> 5 years
[00:26] <BiPolah> Doodlenox: That is the latest stable version of Ubuntu, 32-bit.
[00:26] <hiexpo> prakash_, you can not downgrade do a fresh install
[00:26] <soreau> kylemm: In a live session, the entire system is running in memory
[00:26] <kylemm> soreau. It says the recommeneded driver is activated but not in use
[00:26] <BiPolah> Doodlenox: I imagine your laptop could support it. I don't imagine there'd be any great problems in running it unless the hardware is unsupported
[00:27] <xangua> doodlenox: define old, if you go for text installer yes
[00:27] <magicianlord> kylemm: log out and log back in
[00:27] <soreau> kylemm: That's because it's installed but not loaded. You need to log out in order to restart X
[00:27] <kylemm> okay so can i cancel this terminal?
[00:27] <kylemm> that was installing sheit?
[00:27] <magicianlord> soreau: what is the default log in pas on the live session
[00:27] <soreau> kylemm: Just let it finish
[00:27] <kylemm> k
[00:27] <soreau> magicianlord: nothing
[00:27] <hiexpo> it doesn't matter kylemm it's only live so don't matter
[00:28] <magicianlord> soreau: maybe
[00:28] <kylemm> this linux is so fast
[00:28] <kylemm> in my school class we were building computers and installing dual boot ubuntu and windows xp so thats how i found out about this and got a live usb
[00:28] <cryptodira> what file/command causes the sound slider to live on the top panel?  indicator applet does NOT create it... just mail and display.
[00:28] <VCoolio> doodlenox: that's alternate install, you want that? see if you like netbook edition for your laptop, else just use desktop version
[00:28] <wechat> good shcool
[00:28] <gordonjcp> cryptodira: mixer applet, maybe
[00:29] <soreau> kylemm: I would also install compizconfig-settings-manager, simple-ccsm and compiz-fusion-plugins-extra so you can configure compiz after it's working
[00:30] <hiexpo> kylemm, but remember when you install the extra tweeks to make things kool it will get slower somewhat but still much faster than windoz
[00:30] <kylemm> okay :D
[00:30] <ElderDryas> soreau: how does live cd remember that you have installed the NVIDIA drivers after you install (you have to reboot afterall)
[00:30] <kylemm> soreau okay i will do so :D
[00:30] <soreau> kylemm: Meh, compiz is fast.
[00:31] <kylemm> this stuff is just unpacking
[00:31] <soreau> kylemm: don't need to worry about slow down unless you're doing something really extreme
[00:31] <magicianlord> extra effecst is not really slower. use it. i use extra effects on a netbook
[00:31] <kylemm> this is so fast lol.
[00:31] <kylemm> okay sreau
[00:31] <soreau> ElderDryas: You don't reboot, you just restart X
[00:31] <magicianlord> kylemm: you can press the windows key and tab or win plus A for some cool effects
[00:32]  * ElderDryas slaps forehead and decides more beer is needed
[00:32] <soreau> magicianlord: After he gets his drivers loaded and compiz running
[00:32] <ElderDryas> duh
[00:32] <magicianlord> correct
[00:32]  * soreau gives ElderDryas more beer
[00:32] <kylemm> all this stuff is just unpacking
[00:32] <el_monstero> fake irc beer sucks.. maybe not sucks.. but not as good as cold real beer
[00:32] <kylemm> okay how do i logout?
[00:33] <hiexpo> linux is a much more stabble and safe operateing system than windoz   if it was not why would nasa   and other big companys use it most servers are linux   red hat   linux is safe   and very stable  i don't even have a virus scanner
[00:33] <soreau> kylemm: Yea, just let it finish now since it's already going. It will get you latest official updates with bug fixes etc
[00:33] <kylemm> damn still not done
[00:33] <soreau> kylemm: Log out in sys>
[00:33] <ElderDryas> el_monstero: but it's free (as in beer not speech)
[00:33] <soreau> oh
[00:33] <kylemm> its at update-initramfs
[00:33] <cryptodira> gordonjcp,  grepping for mixer applet only returns a .png and text document...  i think i am looking for something along the lines of the nm-applet.... so that the slider will be made
[00:34] <soreau> kylemm: You may have to completely restart gdm, not sure.. but to completely restart X, do Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to a tty and then type 'sudo service gdm restart' and it should automatically load the nvidia driver
[00:34] <magicianlord> kylemm: use the button in the top right corner
[00:34] <soreau> kylemm: That is, if sys>log out doesn't work
[00:34] <righteousRat> anyone want to chat about firewalls
[00:34] <kylemm> soreau so after this is done do that? or just log off
[00:34] <kylemm> okay okay
[00:34] <kylemm> so try logout first
[00:34] <wangxiyue> use: exit or logout
[00:35] <soreau> kylemm: After it's done. You don't want to interrupt the package manager while it's updating your system
[00:36] <kylemm> so many updates lol
[00:36] <soreau> kylemm: Did you see my private message?
[00:36] <kylemm> umm
[00:36] <kylemm> no
[00:37] <magicianlord> did you install it?
[00:37] <kylemm> this thing is still updating
[00:37] <magicianlord> it's gonna take a while to update
[00:37] <magicianlord> are you in the live sessions stil
[00:37] <wangxiyue> :)
[00:37] <kylemm> ya
[00:37] <soreau> magicianlord: I didn't know he was on a live cd so I had him update :p
[00:37] <kylemm> lol
[00:37] <magicianlord> you dont need to update on the live
[00:37] <magicianlord> i would just stop the update for now
[00:38] <soreau> magicianlord: Nah, it could mess up the system
[00:38] <kylemm> mess up my whole system
[00:38] <kylemm> or just my usb?
[00:38] <magicianlord> it wont mess up anything
[00:38] <soreau> magicianlord: Bad habit to make too - stopping the package manager in the middle of updating
[00:38] <magicianlord> it's gonna take it half an hour to update it
[00:38] <magicianlord> what's the point on the live
[00:38] <wangxiyue> when install os that will need updata
[00:39] <soreau> magicianlord: No it wont, the packages are already d/l'd and he has a reasonably fast system
[00:39] <kylemm> after im done trying out ubuntu, and i format my usb to take this stuff off
[00:39] <itaylor57> yea but he will have to reoboot and lose the changes
[00:39] <kylemm> will things still be on my internal hardware
[00:40] <magicianlord> yes
[00:40] <magicianlord> it's all running in memory/RAM
[00:40] <offsense> anyone here confirming that unity-desktop run slower comparing to normal desktop?
[00:40] <kylemm> okay well hopefully it doesn't screw around with my vista os
[00:40] <soreau> kylemm: In a live session, the entire system is operating in memory so after you reboot, it's like it never even happened
[00:41] <ElderDryas> soreau & magicianlord :  Just did some checking...it looks like there is a Persistence File (?) you can create if you make a boot USB from the Live CD.  Would this save changes like the NVIDIA drivers one adds and use them the next time?
[00:41] <soreau> kylemm: It's not going to mess with anything unless you tell it to
[00:41] <kylemm> okay. so when i reboot its like NOTHING happened?
[00:41] <kylemm> might as well scroll around on hackforums for a bit and try to buy some XBL microsoft points lol
[00:42] <soreau> ElderDryas: I am not familiar with that option but my guess would be that it suspends to ram but writes it to the usb stick
[00:42] <magicianlord> ElderDryas: i dont think so. it would just give you a separate "disk" in nautilus to save extra files to.
[00:42] <magicianlord> ElderDryas: not cetain about os chagnes though, bec i never used that option
[00:43] <kylemm> okay i think its done
[00:43] <kylemm> its now showing ubuntu@ubuntu:-$ rectangle
[00:43] <magicianlord> just log out
[00:43] <soreau> kylemm: You will know it's done when it gives you bask a prompt - yes, like that
[00:43] <soreau> kylemm: Now sys>log out
[00:43] <kylemm> okay
[00:43] <kylemm> ill be bak :D
[00:43] <soreau> hopefully
[00:44] <bsmith093> is there a way to tell apt to uninstall everything ive installed the last 3 days or so?
[00:44] <kylemm> where is logout lol
[00:44] <soreau> bsmith093: Like a system restore point? Not sure..
[00:44] <soreau> kylemm: In the System menu
[00:44] <kylemm> system>admin> login screen
[00:44] <kylemm> ?
[00:44] <soreau> kyentei: No, system>Log Out
[00:45] <soreau> kylemm: No, system>log out
[00:45] <soreau> ! who | kylemm
[00:45] <kylemm> all i see is system> prefferences, administration, help and support, about gnome, abount ubuntu
[00:45] <wangxiyue> use teminate
[00:45] <kylemm> soreau: thats all i see :D
[00:45] <magicianlord> kylemm: upper right corner of panel, there is a powr button. click it and choose logout
[00:46] <soreau> kylemm: Maybe it's different on the live session. Try going to Ctrl+Alt+F1 tty and entering (you better write this down)  sudo service gdm restart
[00:46] <Loshki> bsmith093: I only know the hard way: read /var/log/dpkg/status to see what was installed in the last 3 days, and then manually uninstall them...
[00:46] <soreau> ! tty | kyl
[00:47] <nowarninglabel> is it possible to copy the home directory of a user from one ubuntu install to another, and presuming the same apps are installed, all the settings will load up as expected in applications?
[00:47] <soreau> oh crap
[00:47] <soreau> I guess he figured it out
[00:47] <soreau> nowarninglabel: sure
[00:47] <magicianlord> maybe
[00:47] <magicianlord> or he can't get back in becaus there is a log in pass and name
[00:47] <nowarninglabel> this is my plan b, since i can't find a drive big enough to clone the whole current drive to
[00:47] <soreau> nowarninglabel: Should work as long as it isn't vastly different versions of ubuntu
[00:47] <soreau> magicianlord: lol
[00:48] <magicianlord> i had thatproblem with 9.10 i thnk on the live session
[00:48] <nowarninglabel> soreau: Ok, think 9.10 -> 10 will work ok?
[00:48] <soreau> magicianlord: I think it counts down to 10 and auto logs in, or if you hit enter it will log in right away
[00:48] <soreau> nowarninglabel: Probably. Try it and find out
[00:48] <magicianlord> i dont htink he knwos that
[00:49] <soreau> magicianlord: Well it's kinda obvious with the time out thing.. if anything the nvidia drivers probably just exploded on him
[00:49] <nowarninglabel> soreau: Yeah will do. Thanks. Wish I could find a way to just clone the drive on to a smaller drive, but so far research on that route has been for naught
[00:49] <kylemm> soreau: hey
[00:49] <Loshki> nowarninglabel: how big are your source and destination drives?
[00:49] <soreau> nowarninglabel: If something isn't working right, just rm or mv the relevant config dir out of the way to reset to defaults and see if it's the problem
[00:49] <soreau> kylemm: hi
[00:50] <nowarninglabel> soreau: ok
[00:50] <soreau> kylemm: What happened?
[00:50] <kylemm> soreau: when i logged out, it had me login with a user and pass, and i dont have one.
[00:50] <kylemm> soreau: so i had to restart comp
[00:50] <magicianlord> lol
[00:50] <kylemm> failure
[00:50] <soreau> kylemm: On a live session, it should be auto login after 10 secs or you just press enter without typing anything
[00:50] <nowarninglabel> Loshki: source is 150GB drive, destination is 80.3GB. But I only am using 70GB on the source (but yes I know it isn't like you can't just copy the used portion, wish I could)
[00:50] <kylemm> wow
[00:50] <ubluntu> i just finish installing buntu netbook edition on my netbook and when i book it halt and free with this message,[40.119754] phy0  --> rt2800pci_mcu_status: error - Mcu request failed, no response from hardware speech-dispatcher disabled; edit /etc/default/speech-dispatcher , how can i edit this file if i cant login ?
[00:50] <soreau> magicianlord: failsauce :)
[00:50] <kylemm> okay ill try just pressing enter then
[00:50] <magicianlord> lol
[00:51] <kylemm> lemme reinstall deiver
[00:51] <soreau> kylemm: Try it right now again before installing the drivers
[00:51] <kylemm> okay lol
[00:51] <magicianlord> dont update
[00:51] <soreau> yea
[00:51] <magicianlord> just do the nvidia driver
[00:51] <soreau> magicianlord: I'm having him test the gdm login again
[00:51] <soreau> hopefully, just enter will work
[00:52] <nowarninglabel> all this is because I am switching jobs and new job is forcing me to use a Mac, at least I can still use an Ubuntu VM, but ugh
[00:52] <mkanyicy> nowarninglabel: you can use 'tar'
[00:52] <soreau> nowarninglabel: ow, that sucks :)
[00:52] <mkanyicy> nowarninglabel: but thats not ideal
[00:52] <Loshki> nowarninglabel: well actually you should be able to just copy the 70GB that's in use.
[00:52] <nowarninglabel> Well I thought maybe there is a way, but I want to create a bootable clone if possible, and so far haven't found a way
[00:53] <mkanyicy> nowarninglabel: partimage? tried that out?
[00:53] <nowarninglabel> mkanyicy: interesting, can you point me towards any docs on trying it with tar?
[00:53] <magicianlord> nowarninglabel: you can install ubuntu on a usb drive plugged in
[00:53] <nowarninglabel> magicianlord: i did a direct dd of the drive to a 250GB usb external drive, but it didn't copy the mbr
[00:53] <mkanyicy> nowarninglabel: 'man tar', lol
[00:53] <nowarninglabel> magicianlord: so can't boot off of it
[00:53] <kylemm> soreau: Authentication failure. had to restart again
[00:53] <njero> hi all, I am trying to get my usb tv tuner card to work and having trouble. It is a avermediatvhd volar max (h826DU) and it is supported.  Ok, now lets set you a password so you can login. Run 'passwd' and set a password for the ubuntu user
[00:54] <edwardteach> in the terminal what is <<< ? i am familiar with < and << never came across it until today .
[00:55] <kylemm> wtf
[00:55] <Loshki> nowarninglabel: it can still be done, but the new copy will need to have /etc/fstab edited, and also the grub boot files, as various file paths will have changed...
[00:55] <nowarninglabel> thanks #ubuntu at least gives me something to try
[00:55] <mkanyicy> edwardteach: can you give an example?
[00:55] <kylemm> soreau: it says changing password for ubuntu. (current) UNIX password: and i cant type anything
[00:55] <soreau> kylemm: You are typing (it is listening)
[00:55] <mkanyicy> edwardteach: where did you came across that today?
[00:55] <nowarninglabel> Loshki: Yes, hehe unfortunately I will admit I do not have that expert level domain knowledge for that
[00:55] <soreau> kylemm: It just doesn't show what you type (security feature)
[00:56] <soreau> kylemm: So press backspace a bunch then just press enter
[00:56] <joshie> hey, is this the best place to ask about sound issues?
[00:56] <edwardteach> erm it was this morning i will see if i can find it !
[00:56] <kylemm> soreau: Passwd: Authentication token manipulation error.   passwd: password unchanged
[00:56] <mkanyicy> joshie: maybe it is
[00:57] <ubluntu> anyone can help me with my issue, buntu netbook edition freeze on load up at "phy0 - rt2800pci_mcu_status: Error - MCU request failed, no response
[00:57] <ubluntu> fron hardware"
[00:57] <soreau> kylemm: Are you sure this is a live session and you didn't actually install ubuntu to the usb?
[00:57] <soreau> kylemm: It should look something similar to this behavior https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ubuntu+boot+password.gif
[00:57] <kylemm> soreau: im pretty sure because when i restart comp i have to reinstall this chat thing
[00:57] <sean_w> Can anyone show me a fresh main.cf postfix config file? I broke mine :(
[00:58] <Loshki> nowarninglabel: someone here can probably help you with it...
[00:58] <kylemm> it doesn't look like that
[00:58] <kylemm> soreau: is that 10.10?
[00:58] <soreau> kylemm: On the gdm login screen, it should have a 10 second timeout and the password should be blank
[00:58] <kylemm> soreau: im running 10.04 or something like that
[00:58] <soreau> kylemm: Probably 10.04
[00:58] <soreau> oh hm
[00:58] <joshie> mkanyicy: heh, ok i'll give it a shot.  I booted into my ubuntu partition, and the sound is gone.  It worked last time I used ubuntu (about 3 months ago), but now it isn't and I have no idea how to go about troubleshooting it.
[00:58] <kylemm> it says username but does not say will login in
[00:59] <soreau> kylemm: Why not get the latest version of ubuntu to test with? nouveau might be working (which means compiz would work OOTB)
[00:59] <nowarninglabel> Loshki: Is there a place I should start? I'm guessing I should start by burning a grub cd for the computer I'm moving it to
[00:59] <kylemm> i cant get the 10.10 working
[00:59] <soreau> kylemm: Why not?
[00:59] <kylemm> some file does not transfer properly to the usb or something
[00:59] <kylemm> or the dl file was incomplete
[00:59] <sinisterstuf> joshie, is the sound muted?
[01:00] <kylemm> it will take like 2-3 more hours to dl the latest version
[01:00] <g_0_0> joshie, open terminal and type - alsamixer - check the if the channels are muted - M at the bottom- and check the volumes of each channel
[01:00] <magicianlord> kylemm: what do you want to do
[01:00] <kylemm> do you think that is the only way to get it to let me logout?
[01:00] <CruelC> sudo apt-get nomoreirc
[01:00] <kylemm> and log back in
[01:00] <joshie> sinisterstuf:  nope.  i have a thinkpad x61t with sound buttons above the keyboard that were working when sound was working.
[01:01] <CruelC> sudo apt-get killtheinternet
[01:01] <Jack-is> eth0 connection fails, all DHCP, how can I attempt in terminal to seewhat happens?
[01:01] <sinisterstuf> joshie, the sound buttons no longer work either?
[01:01] <joshie> g_0_0:  josh@jAg-Tablet:~$ alsamixer
[01:01] <joshie> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[01:01] <kylemm> soreau: is there any trick to let me login? :D
[01:02] <g_0_0> !alsa | joshie
[01:02] <sinisterstuf> joshie, what has no file or directory?
[01:02] <CruelC> sudo apt-get install kill-ubuntu
[01:02] <joshie> sinisterstuf: not sure if the buttons work and sound is dead, or if the buttons functionality is also broke
[01:02] <sillykone> Hello, I'm going to reinstall Ubuntu, but I'd like to decrypt my home folder before I do.  How should I go about this?  Deleting the .ecryptfs folder?
[01:02] <naptastic> Can the 10.10 live image be set up for booting over a network? I am having a hell of a time getting a non-corrupted boot device (USB or CD) and am sick of trying...
[01:03] <jack_> naptastic: i think only the alternate installer is available for pxe boot
[01:03] <joshie> ubottu: how do i open the volume applet?
[01:03]  * CruelC kills ubottu
[01:03] <naptastic> jack_, I can work with that!! Where do I find the alternate installer?
[01:04] <joshie> sinisterstuf: no idea.  that's what the terminal returns when i type alsamixer
[01:04] <jack_> naptastic: gimmie one moment
[01:04] <jack_> !pxe
[01:04] <jack_> boo
[01:04] <rww> CruelC: Hi, #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. Please move your "funny" jokes to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[01:04] <CruelC> ubottu package-info simutrans
[01:04] <jack_> naptastic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[01:04] <CruelC> ubottu: package-info simutrans
[01:04] <naptastic> jack_, thank you!!
[01:05] <joshie> g_0_0: what?
[01:05] <jack_> rawfull rww
[01:06] <sinisterstuf> joshie, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:06] <joshie> sinisterstuf: 10.10
[01:06] <Noobuntu> Are firefox crashes common in ubuntu? I've been using it for a few days now and when I start firefox the whole OS crashes
[01:06] <kylemm> is there anyway to login using a command or something
[01:07] <mkanyicy> Noobuntu: not common
[01:07] <righteousRat> Noobuntu des firefox get all gray?
[01:07] <sinisterstuf> joshie, at the top of the screen is an icon that looks like a speaker, that is the volume applet
[01:07] <Noobuntu> righteousrat: yes
[01:07] <jack_> kylemm: wat
[01:07] <righteousRat> i noticed that started happening after they released version 3 of firefox
[01:07] <righteousRat> use google chrome noobuntu
[01:07] <jack_> Noobuntu: yes. i switched to chrome because it was happening too often. although i think its actually flash that crashes firefox.
[01:07] <righteousRat> firefox 3 just fails
[01:07] <Noobuntu> it's weird I was on firefox this morning
[01:07] <kylemm> jack_: im running on a USB live edition and when i try to logout it makes me login with a user and pass and i cant login.
[01:08] <joshie> sinisterstuf:  no speaker icon in my 'tray'
[01:08] <Noobuntu> Well how am I supposed to download google chrome without a browser?
[01:08] <sinisterstuf> Noobuntu, I recommend chromium browser, it's in the repositories
[01:08] <jack_> kylemm: when you try to logout it makes you login?
[01:08] <joshie> sinisterstuf:  is there a path to the volume applet?
[01:08] <jack_> Noobuntu: i think its in the repo
[01:08] <righteousRat> Noobuntu shockwave player seems to crash in chrome alot too however, i think google threads chrome so that not even your browser will crash..it just displays a message saying that the player has crashed
[01:08] <sinisterstuf> joshie, has your problem been for only this session? or is it solved by logging out and in again?
[01:09] <Noobuntu> by repository you mean.?
[01:09] <jack_> also note that chrome cos with flash built in. chromium does not
[01:09] <joshie> sinisterstuf:  problem persists after reboots
[01:09] <jack_> Noobuntu: sudo apt-get install chrome
[01:09] <righteousRat> Noobuntu    "sudo apt-get install konqueror" then use that web browser to download chrome
[01:09] <nathwill> noobuntu - ubuntu software center or what jack said ^
[01:09] <xangua> Noobuntu: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[01:09] <sinisterstuf> joshie, try /usr/bin/gnome-volume-control-applet
[01:09] <mkanyicy> Noobuntu: do NOT install konqueror on ubuntu
[01:10] <jack_> Noobuntu: sudo apt-get install google-chrome-stable
[01:10] <kylemm> jack_: i need to logout to get my vision effects to work. and when i logout i have to use a login username and pass to login but i dont got one
[01:10] <righteousRat> mkanyicy?
[01:10] <Noobuntu> google-chrome-stable
[01:10] <Noobuntu> I'll go with that
[01:10] <mkanyicy> righteousRat: yes?
[01:10] <righteousRat> wats wrong with konqueror on ubuntu?
[01:10] <jack_> kylemm: haha. i would say try again :P before you logout set a password for the live user
[01:10] <jack_> righteousRat: it's made for kde. i think it still works though
[01:10] <g_0_0> joshie what is the result of - cat /proc/asound/cards
[01:10] <mkanyicy> righteousRat: why do you suggest to install a KDE browser so as to install another one?
[01:10] <jrib> kylemm: password is blank (empty)
[01:11] <joshie> sinisterstuf:  no joy.  more info to follow
[01:11] <jrib> kylemm: username is ubuntu
[01:11] <mkanyicy> righteousRat: konqueror will pull many kde libraries into gnome
[01:11] <joshie> sinisterstuf: josh@jAg-Tablet:~$ /usr/bin/gnome-volume-control-applet
[01:11] <joshie> ** (gnome-volume-control-applet:12191): WARNING **: Connection failed, reconnecting...
[01:11] <needlez> anyone got any idea how to keep connect after running this script?? http://pastie.org/1557733
[01:11] <righteousRat> mkanyicy lol because i just couldnt for the life of me figure out how to install chrome thru the terminal lol but you guys just showed me how to
[01:11] <jack_> yeah, i think installing kde applications installs a bunch of junk you dont need
[01:11] <jack_> you could also use elinks
[01:11] <Noobuntu> "sudo apt-get install google-chrome-stable" returns E:  Unable to locate package google-chrome-stable
[01:11] <righteousRat> true but you can remove it
[01:11] <sinisterstuf> joshie, and /usr/bin/gnome-volume ?
[01:12] <jack_> Noobuntu: try 'apt-cache search chroe'
[01:12] <jack_> chrome*
[01:12] <itaylor57> sometimes its better if you don't know to just be quiet and let someone who knows say something
[01:12] <kylemm> thanks hack that worked
[01:12] <mkanyicy> righteousRat: yeah, but not everyone knows how to
[01:12] <jack_> it will let you know the packag ename
[01:12] <righteousRat> ya it installs all the dependencies..including alot of kde crap
[01:12] <kylemm> jack_: thanks that worked to login
[01:12] <jack_> kylemm: w0rd
[01:12] <sillykone> Hello, I'm going to reinstall Ubuntu, but I'd like to decrypt my home folder before I do.  How should I go about this?  Deleting the .ecryptfs folder?
[01:12] <joshie> sinisterstuf: $ /usr/bin/gnome-volume
[01:12] <joshie> bash: /usr/bin/gnome-volume: No such file or directory
[01:12] <mkanyicy> righteousRat: k, at least we understand each other, :)
[01:13] <righteousRat> :)
[01:13] <kylemm> alot of people say like people use linux to hack or something. Is this some urban legend lol?
[01:13] <mkanyicy> joshie: what do you want to do?
[01:13] <righteousRat> kylemm no
[01:13] <g_0_0> joshie, result of - cat /proc/asound/cards  ??
[01:13] <righteousRat> heres why
[01:13] <mkanyicy> joshie: you want gnome-volume-properties?
[01:13] <jack_> kylemm: there are lots of tools available for linux that allow you to 'hack' :/
[01:13] <joshie> g_0_0: $ cat /proc/asound/cards
[01:13] <joshie> cat: /proc/asound/cards: No such file or directory
[01:13] <righteousRat> linux is open source and also designed for computer scientists...they have easy access to their os and its capabilities which makes it very powerful
[01:13] <Noobuntu> A smart hacker would use Linux :P
[01:13] <kylemm> there is alot for windows too
[01:14] <kylemm> so is windows a OS for hackers too? :D
[01:14] <joshie> g_0_0:  this semms like a good reason for sound to fail
[01:14] <naptastic> (there ARE a lot for Windows)
[01:14] <righteousRat> u just dont have those capabilities with windows and macs
[01:14] <jack_> Noobuntu: a smart hacker would spend his time submitting kernel code :P
[01:14] <xangua> !ot
[01:14] <kylemm> well then would u say the majority of linux users only use it for hacks?
[01:14] <WACOMalt> When logged in as my user "wacomalt" I do not have sudo access. wacomalt is in the Admin group, and the admin group is listed in the sudoer file. I am on 10.04 Server
[01:14] <jack_> how do i put ubottu on ignore?
[01:14] <kylemm> as im not a hacker. i just use it for funs
[01:14] <joshie> mkanyicy:  i want to get sound working again...
[01:14] <righteousRat> a hacker is really just a computer scientist gone bad
[01:14] <iceroot_> jack_: /ignore ubottu
[01:14] <Noobuntu> jack_: damn, now I gotta find out what that is too
[01:14] <jack_> kylemm: i dont think that's true.
[01:15] <jack_> righteousRat: i dont think thast true either
[01:15] <[thor]> jack_ /ignore ubottu ALL
[01:15] <mkanyicy> joshie: was it working before?
[01:15] <righteousRat> the word actually disgusts me, hacker
[01:15] <jack_> test
[01:15] <joshie> mkanyicy: it looks like my sound card is no longer recognized by the OS
[01:15] <jack_> good
[01:15] <[thor]> jack_: here's the real test
[01:15] <joshie> mkanyicy: yes, last time I logged in.  about 3 months ago.
[01:15] <alpha7> anyone tried  controlling ubuntu using psx controller >>>?????/
[01:15] <righteousRat> jack_ not true?
[01:15] <righteousRat> why not?
[01:15] <WACOMalt> Anyone able to help me pinpoint my user not having sudo acces, when he is in the sudoers file?
[01:15] <iTechman> hello
[01:15] <[thor]> !ot > jack_
[01:15] <jack_> righteousRat: i'd say a hacker was anybody who liked to get into the how stuff works and adjust to their own needs. but such knowledge can be used for evil
[01:15] <frnk> hi
[01:16] <iTechman> this is a big irc chatroom
[01:16] <mkanyicy> joshie: have you rebooted lately? or upgraded at least?
[01:16] <righteousRat> ya thats true
[01:16] <iTechman> lol
[01:16] <kylemm> soreau: are you here?
[01:16] <nerdistmonk> Hello, why is GCFE Ultra so slow? (The Nintendo Emulator)
[01:16] <righteousRat> any good computer science major has the potential to be a very powerful hacker if they wanted
[01:16] <xangua> nerdistmonk: try another emulator
[01:16] <itaylor57> ot
[01:16] <drag0nz> hey guys, im trypt to apt-get something and its stuck on "0% [Connecting to ch.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:620:0:8::20)]"
[01:16] <rww> righteousRat: This conversation is offtopic for #ubuntu. Please move it to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[01:17] <righteousRat> oops sorry
[01:17] <drag0nz> any ideas why its doing that?
[01:17] <g_0_0> joshie, result of - lspci | grep -i audio  ??
[01:17] <soreau> kylemm: I am now
[01:17] <righteousRat> drag0nz check yout internets
[01:17] <nerdistmonk> ummm well there is no others in the repo
[01:17] <xangua> drag0nz: tried to use the main server¿
[01:17] <joshie> mkanyicy:  rebooted: yes, when i realized sound wasn't working.  i also had to reboot after I updated the system, but I don't remember the system playing the tartup sound when I logged in that first time, either.
[01:17] <drag0nz> righteousRat, it works fine
[01:17] <jack_> righteousRat: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker
[01:17] <drag0nz> xangua, what is the main server?
[01:17] <xangua> nerdistmonk: last time i check there were a lot
[01:17] <kylemm> soreau: okay i figured how to log back in and i did so. what should i install now?
[01:17] <wodKa> Hey guys, I'm still having this freezing problem on 10.10 even with all newest patches, have had the problem since 9.04, where everything freezes until i move the mouse or hit a key or something, then it's fine. any suggestions/solutions?
[01:17] <xangua> well not a lot, but some
[01:17] <kylemm> u said compiz or smtin
[01:17] <nerdistmonk> Not for the origina lnintendo
[01:18] <rww> jack_: As I just told your conversation partner, offtopic for #ubuntu. Go to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[01:18] <joshie> g_0_0: $  lspci | grep -i audio
[01:18] <joshie> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[01:18] <righteousRat> nah jack_
[01:18] <nerdistmonk> just 2 emus for NES
[01:18] <jack_> rww: how do i ignore people again?
[01:18] <jack_> ah. there we go. nvm
[01:18] <xangua> drag0nz: sowtware centre>edit>software sources
[01:18] <jack_> wodKa: isn't that how a machine is intended to work?
[01:19] <drag0nz> xangua, thanks, that worked
[01:19] <soreau> kylemm: Yea, it's user: ubuntu password:
[01:19] <g_0_0> joshie, can you pastebin the result of - lsmod | grep -i snd
[01:19] <schutzstaffel> wodKa, i am suffering same problem here, i tried everything i know but i can not find any solution.
[01:19] <needlez> anyone know how to keep a connection to my wpa2 network while i run this script? http://pastie.org/1557733
[01:19] <kylemm> soreau: i logged out then back in and it says the driver is still not active
[01:19] <jack_> wodKa: if you're not see any refreshing at all, i would think you're having a problem with xserver
[01:19] <joshie> g_0_0: sorry, pastebin?
[01:19] <kylemm> soreau: it says its activated but not in use
[01:19] <frnk> I need some ideas from you for invoking a command line in a "secure" way
[01:19] <wodKa> jack_: that was what it said in the one thread i found on it, any ideas on how to fix it?
[01:19] <nathwill> needlez, part of that script involves disabling your wlan card, so no.
[01:19] <soreau> kylemm: Ok now try to restart gdm by going to a tty (Ctrl+Alt+F1) and entering 'sudo service gdm restart'
[01:19] <wjlafrance_S67> Hello! I'm trying to set up Ubuntu on a touchscreen kiosk, it says Allen-Bradley VersaView 1500P on the front. Can anyone offer me a point in the right direction? Trying to use the touchscreen as a mouse.
[01:19] <Noobuntu> I just got back from resetting my system and... I think whoever said the crashes might be related to flash I think they were right
[01:20] <soreau> kylemm: Now that you can login there's a few other things we can try too
[01:20] <jack_> wodKa: it sounds like a bug within xserver. im not sure how you would fix it. I would also suggest checking your video drivers. which drivers are you using?
[01:20] <Noobuntu> Although.. I can't have my browser crashing everytime I go on a site that uses flash
[01:20] <sktqsd> where does ubuntu software center apps save
[01:20] <joshie> g_0_0:  lsmod | grep -i snd
[01:20] <g_0_0> joshie, go here http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and paste the result
[01:20] <frnk> rdesktop -u <user> -d <domain> -p <password> <ip> will be just fine. But i don't want to put the password in plaintext in the command
[01:20] <nerdistmonk> So any reason for why the emulator for an 8bit videogame system is slow? (Lets assume I have a big system and i got video drivers in)
[01:20] <[thor]> sktqsd: /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:20] <jack_> frnk: i think rdesktop has a gui frontend if you have gui
[01:20] <naptastic> How much hard drive space would I need to do an apt-mirror for just Maverick x86-64?
[01:20] <schutzstaffel> jack_, iam using nvidia geforce go 6100
[01:20] <[thor]> sktqsd: for the .deb packages, anyway..
[01:20] <joshie> g_0_0: done.
[01:21] <soreau> Noobuntu: That's not good.. did you install flash?
[01:21] <jack_> schutzstaffel: cool
[01:21] <frnk> jack_: I'm looking for some way to do it securely: rdesktop -u <user> -d <domain> -p `decrypt a pw from the keyring with my logon pw` <ip> ... you get the idea...
[01:21] <jack_> schutzstaffel: oh. you suffer from the same issue? which driver is it using?
[01:21] <alpha7> anyone tried  controlling ubuntu using psx controller >>>?????/
[01:21] <joshie> g_0_0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/566501/
[01:21] <Noobuntu> I've been using flash for a while now, I had to install it of course but I hadn't had that problem in the past
[01:21] <wodKa> jack_: tried using all the available drivers, proprietary and whatever ubuntu found on its own. it's a gateway laptop with the radeon 2600 gfx card
[01:21] <Noobuntu> I did install some updates earlier today
[01:21] <needlez> nathwill: if you look what I want it to do is for the card to go down change mac go back up get new IP. my only thing is that with wpa, wep, wpa2 or any network that requires auth it cant connect again just because the mac changed it has nothing to do with the card goin down. And I thought wpa_supplicant could do such things
[01:21] <schutzstaffel> jack_, not cool actually :) maverick freezing here!
[01:21] <soreau> nerdistmonk: You would have to use some kind of profiler to find out why it's slow or find the devs of the emulator and ask them
[01:21] <jack_> schutzstaffel: which drivers are you using?
[01:21] <Noobuntu> I'm not sure what they were for there was a list of them
[01:22] <frnk> jack_: i have a x server installed and rdesktop is cmdline only afaik
[01:22] <mkanyicy> i unzipped an archive and now i have a filename with unknown character like a <?> and i cannot do anything to that file, how can i fix this?
[01:22] <wangxiyue_> #android
[01:22] <wallison> How do you change the default minimum password length in 10.04?
[01:22] <^Mike> mkanyicy: What do you mean you cannot do anything to that file?
[01:22] <nerdistmonk> well good to know i have no support at all (Even though its part of ubuntus official repos)
[01:22] <schutzstaffel> i don't understand you jack_ , ubuntu installing graphic drivers itself i just making one click that's all
[01:22] <jack_> frnk: i think you can get a gui frontend for it if that'll help your issue. perhaps not though. i dont use rdesktop that often
[01:22] <frnk> jack_: i just put in a twoliner in /usr/bin/ which basically says: #1: #!/bin/bash and 2: rdesktop ....
[01:23] <jack_> schutzstaffel: try using hte drivers from nvidia.com
[01:23] <g_0_0> joshie, try - modprobe snd_intel8x0
[01:23] <nwillems90> hello ubuntu - I think I have found a bug in the /etc/init.d/ script of tomcat, can I verify my bug with someone or should I "just" fix it, if so where do I find a manual on doing that?
[01:23] <sktqsd> thor: what bout the rest
[01:23] <frnk> jack_: I'm not looking for a gui, just for a secure way not to have to enter my pw all the time and not have to specify the pw in the invocation line of rdesktop
[01:24] <Kazilla> i would submit it to tomcat nwillems90
[01:24] <[thor]> sktqsd: you mean where do the binary files get installed?
[01:24] <schutzstaffel> jack_, thank you
[01:24] <frnk> jack_: + "...in plaintext"
[01:24] <jack_> frnk: could you add the password to a script and then call it with $(cat /path/to/file)?
[01:24] <sillykone> Hi, I'm a user abc and I'd like to decrypt /home/abc.  How should I go about his?  Thanks.
[01:24] <[thor]> sktqsd: probably in /usr/bin
[01:24] <joshie> g_0_0:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/566502/
[01:24] <nwillems90> Kazilla, so it's the tomcat guys that makes the .deb package for ubuntu?
[01:24] <Logan_WP> nwillems90: #tomcat
[01:24] <mkanyicy> ^Mike: the file has a black diamond with a ? inside
[01:24] <nathwill> needlez: i don't know of any reason it would not reconnect after you bring the card back up, but it WILL disconnect when you take the card down
[01:25] <^Mike> mkanyicy: you should be able to specify the filename on the command line though
[01:25] <mkanyicy> ^Mike: and I cannot 'rm' that file
[01:25] <sktqsd> thor: no i want to no where the software center keeps the files it downloaded
[01:25] <kylemm> soreau: hey when i did ctrl+alt+f1 my screen froze and i restarted
[01:25] <delinquentme> does the browser connecting to a website ( chrome in this case ) influence whether a SSL connection is established
[01:25] <nathwill> needlez: maybe try increasing the length of the cycle, 30 seconds may be too short for it to auth w/ the DHCP server.
[01:25] <frnk> jack_: sure but the pw would still be in plaintext at some point. I've been looking into the ubuntu architecture and the keyring concept seems to fit. I just don't know how I store or access any data into or from the keyring.
[01:25] <^Mike> mkanyicy: you might have to do rm "./<?>" or something, but it should work
[01:25] <mkanyicy> ^Mike: I think it is a character set problem
[01:25] <jack_> delinquentme: i think SSL is only over port 443.
[01:25] <Kazilla> nwillems90: i dont know what version you use but apache tomcat guys will respond fast to you
[01:25] <WACOMalt> Over VNC I get a ton of issues trying to use "unlock" on any system setting
[01:25] <nathwill> needlez: i also hope you've set a static IP, or you're going to exhaust avail leases from your dhcp server
[01:25] <frnk> jack_: afaik the keyring is basically encrypted and is being decrypted with your logon pw at logon time
[01:26] <g_0_0> joshie, sorry I meant - sudo modprobe snd_intel8x0
[01:26] <^Mike> mkanyicy: oh, I see... well, I /think/ you can just copy and paste the text, even if it didn't display properly
[01:26] <jack_> frnk: yeah im unsure how you implement that into rdesktop.
[01:26] <Logan_WP> Kazilla: except for that, in the description of their channel, it says "SLOW MOTION CHANNEL: Ask your question including your TC, Java, & OS versions, then wait; check back for answers."
 Can you use Ctrl+Alt+F1 and then get back with Ctrl+Alt+F7? (F1-6 should be tty's and 7+ are for x servers)
[01:26] <WACOMalt> Failed to unlock: The name org.gnome.DisplayManader was not provided by and .service files
[01:26] <WACOMalt> *ant
[01:26] <WACOMalt> *any
[01:26] <soreau> kylemm: ie. does it work before installing the driver
[01:26] <delinquentme> Jack_ so then does changing browsers actually establish a legit SSL connection?
[01:26] <soreau> ! tty | kylemm
[01:26] <nwillems90> Kazilla, I'm using the tomcat6 package - which I guess is 6.0.18
[01:26] <frnk> jack_: just looking for some cmdline utility for accessing the keyring, it would be a simple rdesktop [...] -p `access-keyring #store` or whatsoever
[01:26] <jack_> delinquentme: SSL connections are established when you connect to a site via 443 instead of 80. i think https:// sites do this auto-magically
[01:26] <soreau> ! pm | Noobuntu
[01:27] <mkanyicy> ^Mike: even if I right-click it and delete it, ubuntu says 'file does not exist' while it exists
[01:27] <needlez> nathwill: ok, thank you for pointing that out might have to do that
[01:27] <WACOMalt> I am using xfce and cannot figure out how to auto login with a user. the login settings application will not allow me ot unlock it
[01:27] <^Mike> mkanyicy: oh, in nautilus (the graphical file explorer)?
[01:27] <jack_> soreau: that guy has been trying to get a hold of you in chat for like 10 minutes.
[01:27] <kylemm> alt +F7 gets me back
[01:27] <kylemm> soreau: okay so what do i do?
[01:27] <joshie> g_0_0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/566505/
[01:27] <delinquentme> Jack_ ok makes sense ... sooo im getting a crossed out https: in the URL bar of chrome .. soo would switching browsers  ACTUALLY change it to a legit SSL
[01:27] <mkanyicy> ^Mike: something equivalent to that, Im on kubuntu, so dolphin
[01:27] <sillykone> Anyone know about decrypting home folders? Let's say I'm a user abc and I'd like to decrypt /home/abc.  How should I go about his?  Thanks.
[01:28] <^Mike> mkanyicy: I see... that sounds like a bug! But you can try deleting it from a terminal
[01:28] <soreau> jack_: Oh ok
[01:28] <mkanyicy> ^Mike: I've tried terminal, and it failed
[01:28] <g_0_0> joshie, can you paste the result of - dmesg | tail
[01:28] <WACOMalt> Can anybody help me? I simply cannot unlock the "Login Screen Settings" window
[01:28] <kylemm> soreau: do i press ctrl + alt+ f1 f2 f3 f4 f5 f6
[01:28] <jrib> sillykone: login.  Home is automatically decrypted
[01:28] <jack_> delinquentme: im ntos ure what it means when it is crossed out. perhaps it's using a self-signed cert or something
[01:28] <^Mike> mkanyicy: show me the output of `ls /path/to/dir` please
[01:29] <[thor]> sktqsd: when you install something in the software center, it saves the installer package to /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:29] <mkanyicy> ^Mike: it looks like the filename has unrecognizable character
[01:29] <Logan_WP> !repeat | WACOMalt
[01:29] <jack_> WACOMalt: can you get it with sudo?
[01:29] <soreau> Noobuntu: Well all I can suggest is to remove flashplugin-nonfree package for now and see how things go. Some sites like youtube are leaning toward html5 these days
[01:29] <^Mike> mkanyicy: ls -l would be better, actually
[01:29] <frnk> jrib: I suppose he can't login and just wants to decrypt the home from a livecd or some chrooted environment
[01:29] <soreau> kylemm: You hold down Ctrl+Alt and hit the F keys separately
[01:29] <WACOMalt> if I do that I get the error Failed to unlock: The name org.gnome.DisplayManager was not provided by and .service files
[01:30] <joshie> g_0_0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/566506/
[01:30] <WACOMalt> I am on xfce
[01:30] <sillykone> jrib: I'm wanting to permanently decrypt it.
[01:30]  * jrib does not suppose
[01:30] <frnk> Is it possible to make a file executable for everyone but not readable?
[01:30] <jrib> sillykone: then copy the data somewhere once it's decrypted and disable encryption
[01:30] <kylemm> soreau: it did nothing but freeze my screen.
[01:30] <mkanyicy> ^Mike: http://paste.ubuntu.com/566508/
[01:30] <jrib> frnk: sure
[01:30] <waldir> hey guys. I'd like to add a bug to launchpad suggesting that when installing package A, if B is already installed, A-B should be installed too (e.g. php5, curl, and php5-curl). What search terms should i use to make sure it hasn'e been submitted before>
[01:30] <cryptodira> joshie, do you have the speaker icon in the top bar?
[01:30] <^Mike> mkanyicy: which one do you want to nuke?
[01:30] <sillykone> jrib: I'm wondering how to disable encryption.
[01:31] <Umeaboy> Hi!
[01:31] <joshie> cryptodira: nope.
[01:31] <jrib> !encryption | sillykone
[01:31] <Umeaboy> Is there no Live-iso for the latest stable release of Ubuntu?
[01:31] <Kazilla> sillykone: this may help you : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1385631
[01:31] <cryptodira> joshie, do you know how to create it there?
[01:31] <frnk> jrib: http://docsrv.sco.com:507/en/man/html.S/chmod.S.html
[01:31] <^Mike> Umeaboy: of course there is
[01:31] <jrib> sillykone: it's very important you copy your data somewhere first, then you just delete the .ecryptfs stuff with it decrypted
[01:31] <jrib> frnk: what?
[01:31] <frnk> jrib: so just 00001?
[01:31] <Umeaboy> ^Mike: Where?
[01:31] <xangua> Umeaboy: ubuntu.com
[01:31] <soreau> kylemm: Well crud. I guess the nouveau module is screwing things up. Try booting with nouveau.modeset=0 as a kernel parameter
[01:31] <joshie> cryptodira: nope.  can you please tell me?
[01:32] <^Mike> Umeaboy: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[01:32] <jack_> soreau: kylemm: you have to blacklist it with modprobe
[01:32] <jrib> frnk: erm, if that's what you want, sure
[01:32] <mkanyicy> ^Mike: the pdf and xlsx
[01:32] <sillykone> I already have my directory encrypted.  I'm going to reinstall Ubuntu.  Last time I did it, my home directory wasn't readable because it was encrypted with ecryptfs.  This time I want to decrypt my home folder before I reinstall so that I can easily migrate my files.
[01:32] <cryptodira> joshie, do you have the mail and display icons on the top bar?
[01:32] <daniel> how do i find out wwhat drivers i need for my eithernet card
[01:32] <soreau> kylemm: Actually I want you to blacklist the nouveau module but I can't remember the syntax to do it at boot time as kernel param
[01:32] <WACOMalt> How can I auto log in as a user useing XFCE?
[01:32] <FloridaGuy> does ppa or backports have a newer kernel then the <IP_ADDRESS>?
[01:32] <soreau> jack_: It's a live session he's testing
[01:32] <jrib> frnk: why not tell us what you want to accomplish?
[01:32] <jack_> soreau: uh ugh
[01:32] <soreau> jack_: I don't know why kylemm wont just install it already ;)
[01:32] <joshie> cryptodira: yes
[01:32] <jack_> soreau++
[01:33] <xangua> WACOMalt: you can try to ask in #xubuntu or #xfce a long time since i use it
[01:33] <kylemm> soreau: i got a lot of important files on my HDD
[01:33] <WACOMalt> kk thanks
[01:33] <daniel> how do i figure out what drivers i need for my eithernet card
[01:33] <jack_> daniel: what type of card is it?
[01:33] <Kazilla> WACOMalt: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=auto+log+in+as+a+user+useing+XFCE
[01:33] <WACOMalt> join #xubuntu
[01:33] <soreau> kylemm: That doesn't matter. ubuntu installs into a completely separate partition
[01:33] <[thor]> FloridaGuy: last kernel version that i have had pushed to me from the ppa is <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:33] <kylemm> its so hard just to enable effects. LOL
[01:33] <soreau> kylemm: It's not going to do anything to your windows install that you don't tell it to
[01:33] <frnk> jrib: yes, I'm still looking for some way to place a executable script in /usr/bin/ that invokes rdesktop with the parameter -p (for password). Unfortunatley I'm unable to find some way to access the keyring (like -p `access-keyring-for-pw`) to store it in an encrypted way.
[01:34] <^Mike> mkanyicy: rm /path/to/dir/Caf?VIVA_08FEB2011.{pdf,xlsx}
[01:34] <daniel> jack, ugh idk its for my dell vostro 1000 it wont detect my cable and idk if i have the drivers
[01:34] <kylemm> well i only got like 100GB left of the 1TB
[01:34] <g_0_0> joshie, try this - sudo aptitude --purge reinstall linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils linux-image-`uname -r` linux-ubuntu-modules-`uname -r` libasound2
[01:34] <jack_> kylemm: ya people need to start writing better video drivers for linux :)
[01:34] <soreau> kylemm: It's *way* easy with intel and radeon. nvidia is the trouble here because they don't cooperate with open source community so we have better drivers
[01:34] <jack_> daniel: `lspci` from the terminal should tell you
[01:34] <ElderDryas> kylemm: only on the live cd...install ubuntu for real and it's relatively painless
[01:34] <frnk> jrib: so my second approach is to let it be there (rdesktop -p <plaintext pw>) but only let people execute it. Not read it.
[01:34] <^Mike> mkanyicy: ? is a wildcard that means 'any single letter'... so you won't need to know what that character is in reality
[01:34] <soreau> kylemm: ie. with intel and radeon, you don't have to install a driver, 3D justworks right out of the box
[01:34] <kylemm> lol
[01:34] <joshie> g_0_0: just to make sure, that's one giant command?
[01:35] <jack_> soreau: nvidia has good propriety drivers for linux and IMO nvidia cards work the best on linux. i had to scrape all my ati cards cos the linux drivers are garbage
[01:35] <FloridaGuy> [thor]: ok thanks
[01:35] <kylemm> my 10 year old computers at my school prob have intel
[01:35] <g_0_0> joshie, yep
[01:35] <Blue1> !sound
[01:35] <jack_> intel usually work out of hte box with no accelerated graphics.
[01:35] <mkanyicy> ^Mike: that is not a ? for a question mark, thats a ? for unknown character
[01:35] <soreau> kylemm: nouveau is the open nvidia driver but it sucks because nvidia wont release their hardware specs so the nouveau devs can write a real driver without having to reverse engineer it
[01:35] <joshie> g_0_0: engage!
[01:35] <kylemm> so u guys think i wont be able to get these visual effects to work on LIVE CD
[01:35] <^Mike> mkanyicy: yep, in bash, ? is a special character that means 'one-character wildcard'... if you want a real ? you need \?
[01:36] <kylemm> soreau: oh
[01:36] <Desg_xd> anyone help me download java onto ubuntu?
[01:36] <xangua> !java > Desg_xd
[01:36] <jack_> kylemm: just go ahead an install man. heh. google your card to see if anybody else got it working
[01:36] <soreau> kylemm: You can get them to work, but you need to pass something to the kernel at boot time to so the nouveau module wont load
[01:36] <frnk> jrib: the most elegant way would be to store the password in the keyring of every user I want to have access to the password and then use -p `access-users-keyring-for-password` in the rdesktop invocation script. But I'm unable to figure out how this may be accomplished
[01:36] <bastidrazor> Desg_xd: you'll need to enable the partner repository..
[01:36] <bastidrazor> ubottu: tell Desg_xd about partner
[01:36] <jack_> soreau: kylemm: i blieve its rblacklist=nouveau or rdblacklist=nouveau
[01:37] <jrib> frnk: you don't want the users to know the password?
[01:37] <cryptodira> joshie, good deal then..... here is what worked for me to get the speaker icon back in place...  open 'add to panel'  choose custom application launcher....hit add... the next window that opens.... put volume slider in name.... choose browse for command.... go to /usr/bin  and select gnome-volume-control-applet
[01:37] <ElderDryas> kylemm: is there any reason you don't just install ubuntu...you appear to like it a lot?
[01:37] <nathwill> needlez: what exactly is the goal of that script, anyways?
[01:37] <itaylor57> Desg_xd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[01:37] <frnk> jrib: exactly.
[01:37] <kylemm> soreau: jack_: should i try one of those codes in terminal? O.o
[01:37] <mkanyicy> ^Mike: i know about regex and bash a pretty much, but that is not not a wild card: check it out: http://img171.imageshack.us/i/cafeviva.png/
[01:37] <jack_> kylemm: they have to be used at boottime
[01:37] <kylemm> ElderDryas: im not sure yet
[01:37] <droidftw> !java
[01:37] <BiPolah> cryptodira: Indicator applet gives back the sound and mail icons. Notification area gives back network connections
[01:38] <lmvc> CAN SOMEBODY PROVIDE ME LICENSE.DAT FILE FOR MATLAB7.
[01:38] <frnk> jrib: actually It's for my home environment. I don't want to place passwords in plaintext anywhere.
[01:38] <kylemm> jack_: wtf? so when the code sheit is running across my screen when i hit rub off of usb?
[01:38] <BiPolah> droidftw: You can also download java with the ubuntu restricted extras alongside flash
[01:38] <Flannel> lmvc: No.  You need to purchase MATLAB
[01:38] <cryptodira> joshie, then hit ok.... the custom app icon is now in the top bar.... and the slider icon will be next to mail/display..... remove the custom application icon and you are good to go
[01:38] <needlez> nathwill: to randomize your mac address for reverse of stopping aircrack-ng... seeing as how mac filtering won't work to stop some ppl
[01:38] <BiPolah> and other things
[01:38] <^Mike> mkanyicy: no, you misunderstand me. It is a wildcard when used in the bash shell... so you don't need to know what that weird character is, it will be matched
[01:38] <Desg_xd> ahhh
[01:38] <jrib> frnk: right, so the user would be able to discover the password if he can access the keyring, right?
[01:38] <kylemm> okay im never going to figure out how to do it lawl
[01:38] <Desg_xd> i couldnt find it in synaptic so i thought something was wrong
[01:38] <Desg_xd> soz
[01:38] <jack_> kylemm: im not sure how to set kernel parameters at boot for the livecd. soreau? any insight?
[01:38] <frnk> jrib: I want to access my business laptop via rdesktop and #1 don't have to enter the pw every time and #2 don't want to store the pw in plaintext anywhere. The best option would be to store it in the gnome keyring which is encrypted, and decrypted during logon
[01:39] <BiPolah> Kylemm: What are you trying to figure out how to do?
[01:39] <frnk> jrib: yes, this would be: me *g*
[01:39] <jack_> kylemm: just install! you can probably get it work >_<
[01:39] <joshie> cryptodira: the only thing in that folder that starts with 'vo' is volname.
[01:39] <mkanyicy> ^Mike: can i give you the .zip file with these 2 files and try it out yourself?
[01:39] <cryptodira> BiPolah, that is correct for most folks... it failed for me... so i found a different workaround
[01:39] <soreau> kylemm: When you go to boot, you need to get to the grub menu (by pressing Esc or Shift) then edit the boot line by highlighting it and pressing 'e' then where it says linux and root (this is the kernel line) you append rdblacklist=nouveau such as it will look like ...ro quiet splash rdblacklist=nouveau
[01:39] <lmvc> IM ECUADORIAN DUDE. CAN PURCHASE MATLAB EVEN IF I WORK FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR: PLEASE HELP ME
[01:39] <^Mike> mkanyicy: When you say "rm /path/to/dir/Caf?VIVA_08FEB2011.{pdf,xlsx}", what bash understands is "rm /path/to/dir/Caf<one_letter>VIVA_08FEB2011.pdf /path/to/dir/Caf<one_letter>VIVA_08FEB2011.xlsx"
[01:39] <kylemm> BiPolah: i have to set kernel paramaters at boot for livecd or something
[01:39] <jrib> frnk: I see
[01:39] <soreau> jack_: Just press esc and e like normal
[01:39] <ElderDryas> BiPolah: install NVIDIA drivers on a live cd
[01:39] <BiPolah> cryptodira: OpenJDK Java 6 failed?
[01:39] <jack_> soreau: gotcha
[01:39] <joshie> g_0_0: just finished.  should I test it out on a youtube video, or do i need to do something else before it should work
[01:40] <BiPolah> ElderDryas, Kylemm: Are they completely failing to install, or are you installing them and they're not there when restarted (they're not supposed to save on a LiveCD)
[01:40] <cryptodira> joshie, you want to find.... 'gnome-volume-control-applet
[01:40] <Kazilla> do ecuadorians not have access to google
[01:40] <jack_> Kazilla: i think they're forced to use bing
[01:40] <kylemm> soreau: so when i click run off of usb and code is going acros my screen i press esc or shift and edit it?
[01:40] <^Mike> mkanyicy: no, there's no need for that - bash will let you delete the filenames if you know how to pronounce them in a way bash understands. I just showed you how.
[01:40] <soreau> kylemm: I know it seems like a lot but this all would be *way* easier if you would just install ubuntu.. you can even install ubuntu to a usb stick so it doesn't touch your hard drive
[01:40] <Fluttershy> http://www.google.com.ec/
[01:41] <kylemm> BiPolah: im trying to get visual effects to work and have to do like rblacklist=nouveau
[01:41] <frnk> jrib: do you have any ideas? google just throws out hits of resetting or deleting the keyring file, which I definitely don't want ;)
[01:41] <mkanyicy> ^Mike: that worked
[01:41] <soreau> kylemm: Yea if you see a running man at the bottom of the screen when it first starts loading, press esc there
[01:41] <^Mike> mkanyicy: good :D
[01:41] <kylemm> WTF A RUNNING MAN?
[01:41] <BiPolah> Kylemm: As people have said before, if it's just a LiveCD why do you need them to work? They won't work next time to boot off it.
[01:41] <BiPolah> It's a man and a keyboard, is it not?
[01:41] <jack_> kylemm: you know... the aol guy!
[01:41] <jack_> heh
[01:41] <cabezamuygrande> yeah
[01:41] <soreau> kylemm: I think it's rdblacklist, not rblacklist
[01:41] <cryptodira> BiPolah, indicator applet only gave me mail.... notification did NOT give me networking... so i had to find where the applets lived and do the custom application addition to the top panel as outlined to joshie.
[01:41] <jack_> let me check that
[01:42] <Kazilla> ah aol.. i nostalga'd
[01:42] <BiPolah> Cryptodira: Which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[01:42] <jrib> frnk: no, I don't know how to access the keyring from a terminal.  I haven't used gnome in a while so I don't even know what the keyring is really.  If it's some gnome thing, you could check gnome doc (library.gnome.org) and APIs there
[01:42] <ElderDryas> soreau: I thought it might be a governator icon:)
[01:42] <frnk> does aol still exist?
[01:42] <BiPolah> Frnk: I believe so, yes.
[01:42] <frnk> jrib: alright, thanks anyways :)
[01:42] <jack_> soreau: kylemm: its rdblacklist
[01:42] <[thor]> aol keyword obsolete
[01:42] <kylemm> okay so lemme get this straight. I see a running stick man, and i press esc or shift, and edit boot line by highlighting and pressing e where it says linux and root.(kernel line) i append rdblacklist=nouveau
[01:42] <cryptodira> BiPolah, 10.04 amd/64
[01:42] <mkanyicy> ^Mike: but still cannot open these files other than deleting them
[01:43] <jack_> kylemm: sounds correct to me
[01:43] <jrib> frnk: is it gnome-keyring?  apt-cache search  returns lots of keyring hits including a python-keyring which seems to give access to gnome-keyring
[01:43] <soreau> jack_: Thanks, I need to make a note of that ;)
[01:43] <BiPolah> Cryptodira: Perhaps the sound icon as part of the indicator applet is an aspect of 10.10
[01:43] <kylemm> what is the line i gotta edit
[01:43] <mkanyicy> ^Mike: that <?> correspond to '\202' character ... whatever that is
[01:43] <frnk> jrib: yes, gnome-keyring, let me check, 1s
[01:43] <kylemm> will it be similar to rdblacklist
[01:43] <joshie> cryptodira: found it and added it to the raskbar (for lack of better term), but all running it does is cause the icon to explode and fade outward
[01:44] <soreau> kylemm: When you boot, you highlight the entry then press e to edit, then edit the kernel line and append it at the end where it says ro quiet splash, then Ctrl+X to boot it with that option, one time only
[01:44] <BiPolah> Joshie: Panel, not taskbar (;
[01:44] <frnk> jrib: "python-keyring-gnome - store and access your passwords safely - Gnome-Keyring backend" seems to fit, thanks!
[01:44] <cryptodira> BiPolah, you are probably correct... i have no way of knowing.
[01:44] <^Mike> mkanyicy: you can use the same technique to open or rename the files from bash
[01:44] <frnk> jrib: although I have not the least knowledge of python, google wil fix that ;P
[01:45] <joshie> BiPolah: ty
[01:45] <BiPolah> What is gvfsd?
[01:45] <cryptodira> joshie, whoa.... bummer...i have not seen that behaviour.
[01:45] <mkanyicy> ^Mike: ok, will try renaming them the same way
[01:45] <jerry_sjtu> ..
[01:45] <mkanyicy> ^Mike: thanks
[01:45] <LucidGuy> Looking for a linux hosting comp.  Any recommendations?  Preference.. Linux,LAMP,wordpress
[01:45] <kylemm> soreau: so i will see somewhere it says ro quiet splash, and after that i put a space and enter in rdblacklist=nouveau. So it becomes  ro quiet splash rdblacklist=nouveau. Then press CTRL X
[01:45] <jrib> frnk: yeah, python is pretty straightforward anyway if you know any other language
[01:45] <BiPolah> LucidGuy: Shared hosting service?
[01:45] <joshie> cryptodira: D:  why couldn't i get a normal problem like rm-rf /
[01:45] <soreau> kylemm: That is right.
[01:45] <LucidGuy> BiPolah, yes..
[01:46] <kylemm> soreau: okay and if i mess up, it will only mess up files on my USB drive?
[01:46] <soreau> kylemm: But that's all the way at the end of the kernel line, it will say stuff like linux and root=
[01:46] <LucidGuy> BiPolah, < $20  a month.
[01:46] <soreau> kylemm: If you mess up, nothing will happen. You just have to start over
[01:46] <BiPolah> LucidGuy: I myself use HostGator. Unlimited bandwidth, email accounts, ftp accounts, drive space, only $8.95 per month ($15 initial fee) and are generally pretty reliable
[01:46] <cryptodira> joshie, the normal problems are no fun.... this way you get to learn  ;)
[01:46] <kylemm> alright
[01:46] <frnk> jrib: will look into that and maybe bother you any time soon with stupid questions ;P thanks! :D
[01:46] <kylemm> now i gotta write shit on a paper
[01:46] <jrib> frnk: no problem
[01:46] <gpc> !language | kylemm
[01:46] <cabezamuygrande> hostgator is the best
[01:46] <LucidGuy> BiPolah, thanks .. Ill look into them.
[01:46] <joshie> cryptodira: :D
[01:46] <Poshie> I'm on Dual OS and windows can connect to the internet but ubuntu can't. The settings - password and connection type, etc. is the same. It was working a few days ago. I've tried restarting the router and everything.
[01:47] <sjuxax> What options do I pass the kernel to make the Live CD use VESA/other generic video output? Because KMS/ATI goes all artifacty and broken for me.
 does aol still exist?
 Frnk: I believe so, yes.
[01:47] <BiPolah> BiPolah: They have WordPress and a number of other blog services, among other things, available through Fantastico
[01:47] <LucidGuy> Whats the story with GodDaddy?
[01:47] <kylemm> soreau: so i will see something like linux and root= and at the very end i will then see the splash thing
[01:47] <Fluttershy> they just bought huffpost for $315M
[01:47] <LucidGuy> haha .. GoDaddy
[01:47] <rww> ubottu: ot | Fluttershy, LucidGuy
[01:47] <soreau> kylemm: yes and it will even tell you 'Ctrl+X' to boot at the bottom
[01:47] <jack_> Fluttershy: aol still exists. they bought out time warner, but i think they've split off again.
[01:47] <kylemm> soreau: okay i will try this and come bak to this chat
[01:47] <joshie> restarting to complete update, be back soon to either thank you guys or ask for more help...
[01:48] <kylemm> soreau: jack_: BiPolah: Thanks
[01:48] <frnk> Fluttershy: /j #ubuntu-offtopic for aol discussions :D I'll explain it there
[01:48] <soreau> kylemm: ok np
[01:48] <kylemm> damn now i gotta get paper -_-
[01:48] <soreau> kylemm: Yes :)
[01:48] <BiPolah> LucidGuy: Their hosting plans look fairly decent and cheap, but with HostGator you've got unlimited drive usage (within fair limits) and bandwidth, should you need more than other hosting companies offer, without rising fees
[01:48] <Logan_WP> !offtopic | BiPolah
[01:48] <jack_> kylemm: use the following command to see what it is currently `cat /proc/cmdline`
[01:49] <BiPolah> Logan_WP:Just answering a guys question quickly
[01:49] <Poshie> What could possibly be the reasons for Ubuntu not connecting to the internet but Windows being able to?
[01:49] <jack_> BiPolah: no answering questions!
[01:49] <cryptodira> BiPolah, what would make you think OpenJDK Java 6 failed in regard to top panel applets problems?
[01:49] <jack_> Poshie: are you connected to the local network?
[01:50] <BiPolah> Poshie: Perhaps your ethernet/wifi controllers aren't recognised, or your network settings are incorrect
[01:50] <LucidGuy> BiPolah, cool.. will check them out.
[01:50] <kylemm> jack_ okay 1 sec
[01:50] <Poshie> jack_: Not, it's totally not connecting.
[01:50] <jack_> Poshie: is it wireless or wired?
[01:50] <Poshie> BiPolah: But like I said, the wireless was working a few days ago.
[01:50] <Poshie> jack_: wireless
[01:50] <BiPolah> Cryptodira: That was in response to you saying java via ubuntu restricted extras failed, which is OpenJDK Java 6. You mentioned it at some point.
[01:50] <jack_> Poshie: so you cannot connect to your router at all?
[01:51] <g_0_0> joshie, any luck ?
[01:51] <Poshie> jack_: correct
[01:51] <BiPolah> Poshie: Perhaps you've changed settings for network manager?
[01:51] <jack_> Poshie: did you perform any updates recently? your wifi drivers are usually in the kernel
[01:51] <Poshie> BiPolah: how is thatpossible if connecting with windows still works?
[01:51] <Poshie> jack_: nothing at all.
[01:52] <jack_> Poshie: what happens when you try to connect to the wifi?
[01:52] <BiPolah> Poshie: I mean nm-applet in Ubuntu, not on your router.
[01:52] <jack_> Poshie: sometimes i've seen problems with the key not being accepted. Try removing the saved key and re-typing it when you try to connect
[01:52] <Poshie> jack_: It says it's connecting, then it "disconnects."
[01:52] <jack_> Poshie: what type of authentication?
[01:52] <Poshie> jack_: WPA or WPA2?
[01:53] <cryptodira> BiPolah, looks like maybe conversations got crossed (easily done here with the high volume) i have not ever specified java anything directly.... i try not to use it... i think it is poorly behaved.
[01:53] <Poshie> BiPolah: So I type in nm-applet in terminal?
[01:53] <jack_> Poshie: is it possible to disable authentication on the router temporarily to see if you can connect?
[01:53] <jack_> Poshie: network manager is the little icon in your notification area
[01:54] <huosheng> Good morning, everyone.
[01:54] <kylemm> jack_: bash: cat/proc/cmdline: no such file or directory
[01:54] <BiPolah> Poshie: End the process first, then restart it
[01:54] <Poshie> jack_: I can connect using windows though.
[01:54] <BiPolah> Cryptodira: Indeed it seems they have, my mistake.
[01:54] <Poshie> BiPolah: Sorry, how do I do that?
[01:55] <jack_> kylemm: cat /proc/cmdline
[01:55] <chriss_> hey guys a little help pls in ubuntu when tryin to mount my windows files I get an error in terminal it says device /dev/sda1 doesnt have a valid ntfs. what does that mean
[01:55] <cryptodira> BiPolah, np  ..... Thank YOU for your continued presence and help.  :)
[01:55] <jack_> Poshie: i know. to help identify the issue with ubuntu, you could disable authentication to see if its an authentication issue on the ubuntu side.
[01:55] <kylemm> jack_: noprompt cdrom-detect/try-usb=true persistent file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.lz splash -- BOOT_IMAGE=/casper/vmlinuz
[01:55] <kylemm> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[01:55] <jack_> chriss_: are you running the moutn command with -t NTFS?
[01:56] <wjlafrance_S67> I'm working with an integrated computer and I'm not sure what mouse the touchscreen is. Any pointers?
[01:56] <wjlafrance_S67> (no pun intended)
[01:56] <jack_> kylemm: that is /proc/cmdline?
[01:56] <chriss_> yes I am
[01:56] <jack_> Chrisie: try without it
[01:56] <jack_> Chrisie: mt
[01:56] <kylemm> jack_:yes
[01:56] <jack_> chriss_: try without it
[01:56] <g_0_0> joshie, any luck?
[01:56] <jack_> kylemm: kk then add rdblacklist parameter at the end of it hwen you reboot
[01:56] <Poshie> jack_: I'm not sure how to do that....
[01:56] <joshie> g_0_0:  yes!
[01:56] <g_0_0> joshie, excellent
[01:57] <kylemm> end of what?
[01:57] <kylemm> end of where it says splash?
[01:57] <jack_> Poshie: that would be done on your router. if you cant do it I would suggest going into the network manager, finding your saved wireless network, editing it and removing the saved password then re-trying to connect
[01:57] <huosheng> Any browser for ubuntu other than firefox, chrome?
[01:57] <joshie> g_0_0: i thought thought that audible chunk a speaker makes when a connected component turns on could sound so good!
[01:57] <kylemm> jack_: end of where it says splash?
[01:57] <jack_> kylemm: end of the line. as we spoke about earlier
[01:57] <joshie> g_0_0: ** I never thoguht
[01:57] <jack_> kylemm: for example
[01:57] <g_0_0> joshie, enjoy
[01:57] <xangua> huosheng: opera, lynxt, blablabla
[01:57] <joshie> g_0_0: thank you so much.
[01:57] <xangua> !browser > huosheng
[01:57] <bastidrazor> chriss_: are you sure sda1 is the ntfs partition?
[01:57] <jack_> kylemm: when you hit 'e' to edit the boot line, it'll say 'noprompt cdrom-detect/try-usb=true persistent file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.lz splash -- BOOT_IMAGE=/casper/vmlinuz' just add 'rdblacklist=nouveau' to this
[01:58] <akagi82_> anyone know how to enable ics in starter?
[01:58] <g_0_0> joshie, you're welcome
[01:58] <kylemm> okay
[01:58] <BiPolah> Huosheng: Epiphany, Opera, Seamonkey Navigator(?), Arora
[01:58] <jack_> kylemm: so it will say 'noprompt cdrom-detect/try-usb=true persistent file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.lz splash -- BOOT_IMAGE=/casper/vmlinuz rdblaclist=nouveau'
[01:58] <BiPolah> to name a few
[01:58] <kylemm> alright
[01:58] <joshie> g_0_0: if i may bother you for a few more minutes, why did you think that would fix my problem, and how did you look up the correct command?
[01:58] <Poshie> jack_: have you realised that I won't be able to save my network without entering a password?
[01:59] <jack_> Poshie: what?
[01:59] <g_0_0> joshie, your alsa was borked
[01:59] <chriss_> bastidrazor its the only partition my windows crashed and I can't get into it
[01:59] <Poshie> jack_: I can't remove my saved password, or else it won't "save"
[01:59] <jack_> realy. hmm
[02:00] <joshie> g_0_0: alsa?  time to go wikipedia-ing.
[02:00] <jack_> Poshie: delete the whole thing
[02:00] <jack_> Poshie: then reconnect to it
[02:00] <g_0_0> joshie, there you go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture
[02:01] <huosheng> BiPolah: Is there any chrome version for ubuntu?
[02:01] <jack_> huosheng: there is a chrome for ubuntu. i use it
[02:01] <xangua> huosheng: there is chromium abd chrome
[02:01] <Poshie> Yess! jack_ It worked!!! Thanks!
[02:01] <jack_> Poshie: no problem /flex
[02:01] <jack_> ^take that rww
[02:02] <bastidrazor> chriss_: if windows crashed it may have the drive locked, in a sense. if you can you would need to boot in to safe mode then do a normal shutdown
[02:02] <chriss_> ok tried taking out the -t but still not working
[02:03] <jack_> chriss_: are you certain you're specifiying the correct disk?
[02:03] <chriss_> I can't boot windows at all I have a feeling that windows could have been erased if so would ubuntu be able to mount it still
[02:03] <chriss_> jack yes I am
[02:03] <kylemm_> soreau: jack_: when i restart comp. go to boot menu and click my usb drive. I then click run ubuntu from USB. and txt comes on screen. I try to press esc or shift and i cant edit or do ntin
[02:04] <jack_> chriss_: try mounting with the '-v' maybe you'll get more information
[02:04] <jack_> kylemm_: thats a soreau question. im unsure exaclty how to adjust the boot paramater from the livecd
[02:04] <kylemm_> o
[02:04] <jack_> kylemm_: oh. ther ehe is now
[02:04] <bastidrazor> chriss_: sudo fdisk -l   :this will list how ubuntu sees the drive.
[02:04] <jack_> soreau: kylemm_ cant get to the boot line
[02:05] <kylemm_> soreau: hey buddy :O
[02:05] <jim_reaper> can someone help me with a hard drive permissions problem i'm having?
[02:05] <chriss_> bast I did that and it lists as /dev/sda1
[02:05] <soreau_> kylemm_: hey
[02:05] <jack_> what is the NTFS equivalent of a superblock? do they have superblocks? heh
[02:05] <akagi82_> anyone know how to get a usb broadband modem working?
[02:05] <jack_> jim_reaper: whats up?
[02:05] <BiPolah> !ask | jim_reaper
[02:05] <soreau_> kylemm_: How far did you get?
[02:05] <jack_> chriss_: moutn with the '-v' trigger and see if you get any better error messages
[02:05] <kylemm_> soreau: when i restart comp. I go to my comp boot menu, and click my usb drive. I then click run ubuntu from USB. i try to press esc or shift to edit, and i cant edit nothing
[02:06] <kylemm_> soreau: screen comes across screen and within 10 seconds ubuntu loads and i sign in
[02:06] <soreau_> kylemm_: You're supposed to press e to edit
[02:06] <soreau_> kylemm_: 'e'
[02:06] <jim_reaper> Well i've just formatted a 320gb internal hdd to ext3 and i can't copy anything to it, i don't have permission.
[02:06] <kylemm_> soreau: okay so when i click run from USB i click e and look for that specific line?
[02:06] <jack_> jim_reaper: how did you format it?
[02:06] <jim_reaper> jack, i used gparted
[02:06] <kylemm_> soreau: ro quiet splash
[02:06] <jack_> jim_reaper: ok. how did you mount it?
[02:07] <jim_reaper> just in gparted
[02:07] <soreau_> kylemm_: What screen was it on? To select Install or Try without making any changes to your computer?
[02:07] <bastidrazor> jim_reaper: change the mount point ownership to your username.
[02:07] <psusi> jack_, boot sector
[02:07] <jack_> psusi: ya yes.
[02:07] <jack_> ah*
[02:07] <BiPolah> jim_reaper: You'll need to set permissions for the drive's root directly so that your user can edit/own it
[02:07] <kylemm_> soreau: i clicked run from USB
[02:07] <jack_> jim_reaper: are you able to write to it at root?
[02:07] <kylemm_> soreau: so try wthiout changes
[02:07] <jack_> as*
[02:07] <jim_reaper> i tried chown username /media/sdd1 but then i can't open files inside it after i copied them there as root
[02:08] <jack_> jim_reaper: try 'chown -r user:user /media/sdd1"
[02:08] <psusi> jim_reaper, then chown the files, or don't copy them as root
[02:08] <BiPolah> Jim_reaper: Do it recursively. Owner of those files will be root.
[02:08] <bastidrazor> jim_reaper: sudo chown $USER /media/sdd1    :that exact command will change it to your user.
[02:08] <jim_reaper> ill give it a shot
[02:08] <kylemm_> soreau: so after that some txt runs on screen, and then in liek 20 seconds ubuntu loads
[02:09] <jack_> kylemm_: i love those fast boot times
[02:09] <kylemm_> jack: lol
[02:09] <mature> If I typed Chinese, could anyone read it?
[02:09] <soreau_> kylemm_: Ok, try pressing e to edit
[02:09] <bastidrazor> mature: they could in #ubuntu-cn
[02:09] <kylemm_> soreau: okay lemme restart
[02:10] <BiPolah> !chinese | mature
[02:10] <jack_> mature: i think chinese people could
[02:10] <doodlenox> ive successfully installed ubuntu on my old laptop.. BUT when i try to click on the buttons along the left side, they dissapear and things pause for a second or two
[02:10] <doodlenox> ideas?
[02:10] <jack_> doodlenox: what buttons?
[02:10] <jim_reaper> bastidrazor, that seems to have worked. thanks a lot guys
[02:10] <doodlenox> well im niot sure
[02:10] <doodlenox> cant clikc them to find out
[02:10] <bastidrazor> jim_reaper: you're welcome.
[02:11] <jack_> doodlenox: what do they look like?
[02:11] <doodlenox> jack_ -- firefox and the ones below
[02:11] <BiPolah> doodlenox: Down the left side of the screen, or at the left side of the top panel?
[02:11] <doodlenox> left side
[02:11] <jack_> doodlenox: the ones in the menu?
[02:11] <doodlenox> yea
[02:11] <doodlenox> when i hover
[02:11] <doodlenox> they dissapear
[02:11] <doodlenox> then there is a second or two
[02:11] <doodlenox> and they come bak
[02:11] <jim_reaper> bastidrazor, so i'm assuming the $user changed the ownership to the current user? is that how it worked?
[02:11] <FloodBot3> doodlenox: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:11] <jack_> can you still click even though youc ant see them?
[02:11] <drag0nz> is there an arabic ubuntu channel?
[02:11] <jack_> jim_reaper: try 'echo $USER'
[02:11] <BiPolah> !arabic | drag0nz
[02:11] <bastidrazor> jim_reaper: it changed it to the user issuing the command, yes
[02:12] <drag0nz> cool
[02:12] <BiPolah> Drag0nz: Thus, we find out.
[02:12] <jack_> jim_reaper: its an environmental variable
[02:12] <jim_reaper> jack_, yeah it shows i'm the current user
[02:12] <doodlenox> jack - no
[02:12] <kylemm> soreau: lol i press e and it mixes in with the codes going across the screen
[02:12] <jim_reaper> bastidrazor, cheers mate.
[02:12] <doodlenox> jack - i can clikc on top buttons fine
[02:12] <jack_> jim_reaper: you can also use `whoami`
[02:12] <bastidrazor> jim_reaper: you're welcome.
[02:12] <BiPolah> Doodlenox: Just remove the left panel?
[02:12] <kylemm> soreau: within 10 seconds a big pink screen comes up and ubuntu loads
[02:12] <jim_reaper> jack_, that's pretty nifty
[02:13] <frnk> kylemm: I had the pink one, too until i fixed the nvidia-drivers
[02:13] <kylemm> soreau: i dont see anything related to linux and root=,    or ro quiet splash
[02:13] <jack_> kylemm: what exactly are you trying to do? i blacklist nouveau so i can load up the nvidia drivers, but i believe that still requires a reboot.
[02:13] <soreau_> kylemm: Gah. What was wrong with 10.10 again?
[02:13] <doodlenox> any ideas on how to fix my problem with the left menu dissapearing?
[02:13] <frnk> doodlenox: multi-monitor setup?
[02:13] <kylemm> soreau: when i try to do 10.10 some file is lost or smtin
[02:13] <BiPolah> Doodlenox: Try removing it and replacing it
[02:14] <kylemm> soreau: i think becuz it wasn't fully downloaded im not sure
[02:14] <doodlenox> frnk - no just one
[02:14] <jack_> doodlenox: the whole menu disappears? you mean where it says 'applications'? that text disappears? or the menu closes after you click it? or when you hover over icons in the menu they're removed?
[02:14] <BiPolah> Kylemm: Sure your install CD for 10.10 wasn't defective? Attempting to customise a Live CD is foolish; nothing will be saved
[02:14] <soreau_> kylemm: Did you check the md5sum for the image of 10.10 you have?
[02:14] <frnk> doodlenox: add it, logout, login -> gone?
[02:14] <kylemm> jack_: im trying to edit boot line thing to blacklist nouveau to do visual effects
[02:14] <chriss_> ok jack it says something about it may be the wrong device or the whole disk instead of partition
[02:14] <jack_> kylemm: i dont think that'll allow you to do that. are you using nvidia?
[02:14] <kylemm> jack_: ya
[02:14] <soreau_> kylemm: Really though, I would recommend to focus your efforts on getting the latest ubuntu working, and installed
[02:14] <jack_> chriss_: can you copy and paste the error line into the chat?
[02:15] <kylemm> soreau: hmm
[02:15] <frnk> jack_: hopefully _one_ error line :D
[02:15] <BiPolah> I'm running 10.10 with nVidia, all visual effects are working fine here.
[02:15] <kylemm> soreau: can i install on a USB drive, with like 2GB space. Then when i format the USB stick it uninstalls?
[02:15] <jack_> kylemm: you'll have to install the nvidia drivers to get it working most likely. this has to be done without xserver running to begin with. doing this in a livecd is going to be a pain in the ass
[02:15] <chriss_> I cant but I could paste on pastebin
[02:15] <jack_> also, 10.04 is an LTS and I still use it. it works great
[02:15] <jack_> chriss_: sure
[02:15] <frnk> jack_: what?
[02:15] <soreau_> kylemm: obviously if you format it, the data will be gone
[02:16] <frnk> jack_: why a livecd?
[02:16] <kylemm> soreau: when i install on USB will it mess with my comp or 1TB hardrive or anytin?
[02:16] <doodlenox> jack_  frnk - i can see 12 things from firefox to recycle bin at bottom.. when i go to click on them, they disappear while i hover and the screen goes purple(the background) and then comes back to original
[02:16] <jack_> frnk: what? kylemm is using the livecd. im not sure why he wont just install heh
[02:16] <BiPolah> Kylemm: No it won't, unless you tell it to.
[02:16] <kylemm> jack_: some1 said partitioning can screw u up
[02:17] <BiPolah> Kylemm: If it makes you feel better, you can install it into a USB without any other hard drives connected to your computer
[02:17] <jack_> kylemm: unmount the drive if you're worried
[02:17] <jack_> kylemm: unplug them internally
[02:17] <frnk> jack_: he wants to install the drivers into a livecd environment?
[02:17] <jack_> kylemm: do you currently have a windows installation?
[02:17] <kylemm> BiPolah: jack_: i dont know how to open my comp lol
[02:17] <jack_> frnk: yes
[02:17] <frnk> wtf
[02:17] <kylemm> jack_: windows XP
[02:17] <BiPolah> Kylemm: Just dismount them then
[02:17] <kylemm> jack_: windows vista actually
[02:18] <jack_> kylemm: do this. screw livecd. boot into winxp and then download wubi. install ubuntu with that. reboot and get into your linux environment. do your testing there.
[02:18] <jack_> problem solved
[02:18] <kylemm> well its liveUSB :D
[02:18] <frnk> I don't get the point where he shouldn't just install linux
[02:18] <jack_> kylemm: http://wubi.sourceforge.net/
[02:18] <kylemm> frnk: i got years worth of files i cant risk being messed with
[02:19] <jack_> kylemm: ^ use that
[02:19] <BiPolah> Kylemm: dismount the drives before installing Ubuntu then
[02:19] <frnk> kylemm: everyone wants restore, noone wants backup... ;P
[02:19] <jack_> kylemm: also, backup your stuff or you'll be sorry. maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life
[02:19] <frnk> nuff said
[02:19] <danny_> Is there a guide to installing Ubuntu server so that Gnome DOES NOT get installed? I don't want a gui. The machine is going to be headless
[02:19] <kylemm> i dont know how to take apart my comp tho
[02:19] <frnk> jack_: *5* ;P
[02:19] <BiPolah> Danny_: I was under the impression that server installs without any GUI?
[02:19] <jack_> danny_: does gnome get installed? i thought it was by default no gui
[02:19] <jrib> danny_: ubuntu server does not install gnome
[02:19] <pnorman> danny_: When I installed it, it had no GUI
[02:19] <jack_> danny_: ^
[02:20] <doodlenox> do i need to reinstall??
[02:20] <soreau_> kylemm: As I told you several times before, linux isn't going to do anything you don't tell it to. If it's on a usb stick, that's where it exists.   You didn't use the server disc or you told it to install gnome somehow.  The server install does not even install X by default
[02:20] <jack_> danny_: cant you switch it to boot into runlevel 3?
[02:20] <kylemm> frnk: my usb has most of the files on it
[02:20] <jack_> frnk: nazi imo
[02:21] <frnk> ?
[02:21] <jrib> danny_: note.  Alternate disk is not the server install.
[02:21] <jack_> gpc: http://www.vidarholen.net/contents/wordcount/
[02:21] <jrib> danny_: here you go: http://www.ubuntu.com/server
[02:21] <chriss__> ok jack it is called sda1 ok thanks pastebins
[02:22] <gpc> jack_: if you don't like our channel policies you are welcome to /part.
[02:22] <kylemm> jack_: what do you mean i will be sorry lol
[02:22] <jack_> gpc: i like to stick around till i get kicked. (usually)
[02:22] <danny_> it is when its the one of the SERVER page. http://www.ubuntu.com/server/get-ubuntu/download is where I got the file from
[02:22] <danny_> When it was finished installing GNOME FIRED UP
[02:22] <danny_> I'm trying to keep it from doing that
[02:22] <jack_> kylemm: drives fail. its the way it is. you should backup anything that is important always
[02:22] <jack_> danny_: what does /etc/lsbrelease say?
[02:23] <jack_> lsb-release*
[02:23] <jrib> danny_: no, you probably burned the wrong iso or mixed up CDs
[02:23] <chriss__> hey jack I lost connection did you get my post
[02:23] <KB1JWQ> kylemm: Assume any given building will at one point burst into flames.  Back your data up accordingly.
[02:23] <sjuxax> What options do I pass the kernel to make the Live CD use VESA/other generic video output? Because KMS/ATI goes all artifacty and broken for me, cannot see teh screen.
[02:23] <danny_> Can't access it right now as I'm in the expert install mode over SSH now.
[02:23] <jack_> chriss__: i dont think so
[02:23] <frnk> kylemm: The moment you temper with your hard drive, you have to expect data loss. Especially when installing an os. Imho the safest way is to have a full backup of your data before you continue. That was all I was saying
[02:23] <danny_> I'll go check the disc again but I'm positive that it's the server install disk
[02:23] <chriss__> jack I post on pastebins the file is called sda1
[02:24] <kylemm> Jack_: KB1JWQ: if my house gets on fire, im runnin with my comp
[02:24] <KB1JWQ> It's a good thing you've got a robust backup policy in place and can restore from backups though!  A lot of people with insufficient experience and bad administrative habits would not be in such a good position. <-- I will definitely say this to anyone who blows away their only copy of anything important. :-)
[02:24] <BiPolah> danny_: If it's installing gnome, then it's not the server iso.
[02:24] <jrib> danny_: unless you put an asterisk next to a task that installed X, you wouldn't have X on the server disc
[02:24] <kylemm> frnk: i have not tempered with my hard drive only my USB stick :D
[02:24] <jack_> kylemm: what if the drive just fails?  I hate VMs
[02:25] <frnk> kylemm: if you install, you're going to be
[02:25] <KB1JWQ> kylemm: The point is, assume your drive will explode, and possibly take out anything else in the same case as it through weird power surges.
[02:25] <jack_> danny_: is this a windows host?
[02:25] <danny_> ya.
[02:25] <KB1JWQ> kylemm: You can back up your data, or you can take your chances.  Expect no symptathy / support with the latter.
[02:25] <jack_> danny_: theres your problem! haha
[02:25] <danny_> I know.
[02:26] <chriss__> http://pastebins.com/index.php?show=533
[02:26] <danny_> I wish I could do my set up differently Jack but it doesn't like running the other way around.
[02:26] <kylemm> i have no money to buy a atleast 20GB USB stick or hard drive to back stuff up
[02:26] <danny_> Windows screws up and takes Ubuntu with it
[02:26] <KB1JWQ> chriss__: Does fdisk -l show that as an NTFS partition?
[02:26] <chriss__> jack yes it does
[02:27] <frnk> kylemm: there's one thing I tell all my clients and friends: consider unbackupped data just gone
[02:27] <frnk> kylemm: as hard as it sounds...
[02:27] <BiPolah> Kylemm: It's not that expensive. You can get an external enclosure for ~$10, then a standard 3.5" 1TB drive for ~$50
[02:27] <jack_> chriss__: that looks like its unable to read the filesystem table to identify the filesystem type. what happens if you dont specify -t ntfs?
[02:27] <chriss__> jack it shows as HPFS/NTFS
[02:27] <chriss__> if I don't specify it fails
[02:27] <pnorman> I need to get a USB flash drive for my parents to back stuff up onto
[02:28] <danny_> Jack here we go again for a third attempt at the installation. I should probably just give up and go to sleep or something.
[02:28] <jack_> chriss__: with the same error?
[02:28] <jack_> danny_: you'll feel better and more clear headed after getting some rest. also, try virtualbox. its the shit.
[02:28] <jack_> (well for now... hopefully oracle doesnt destroy it)
[02:28] <BiPolah> Jack_: Now now, language...
[02:28] <kylemm> BiPolah: 500GB Is $70
[02:28] <jack_> BiPolah: http://www.vidarholen.net/contents/wordcount/
[02:29] <frnk> kylemm: what?!
[02:29] <jack_> -_-
[02:29] <kylemm> frnk: at my local store 500GB is $70
[02:29] <frnk> you just live in the wrong county...
[02:29] <BiPolah> Kylemm: Where are you looking?
[02:29] <frnk> ;)
[02:29] <kylemm> Canada
[02:29] <kylemm> bestbuy
[02:29] <BiPolah> Kylemm: Ah, I'm talking USD from the likes of newegg
[02:29] <jack_> i saw a 1TB disk for $100 at bestbuy
[02:29] <chriss__> ijack it says I need to specify file system type
[02:30] <kylemm> well i cant order stuff online lol
[02:30] <frnk> in germany, 1.5TB is like 85$
[02:30] <pnorman> kylemm: Try NCIX, they might have a local store
[02:30] <danny_> jack_ I am using VirtualBox... But on a Windows host. When I had Ubuntu hosting windows, it would start the windows vm on boot (I wanted it to because my stupid phone is windows or mac only). That worked for 24 hours. After that the Windows machine started locking on boot. And of course it would freeze up all 8 cores and all 12GB of ram. So the system freezes solid.
[02:30] <jack_> chriss__: kk that means it cant read the filesystem type. specifying it probably wont help :P. mount command is pretty smart. are you able to use that filesystem in windows?
[02:30] <kylemm> 1.5TB $100
[02:31] <jack_> danny_: ah i see.
[02:31] <chriss__> jack I can't do anything in windows it wont boot up and I get no option for safe mode I get the splash screen and then a flashing cursor
[02:31] <jack_> chriss__: it sounds like your NTFS filesystem is corrupt.
[02:31] <BiPolah> Kylemm: Overpriced. Look on Newegg. 1Tb 3.5" 7200RPM is only $60
[02:32] <jack_> im not sure if linux has a fsck for ntfs
[02:32] <jack_> chriss__: ^
[02:32] <kylemm> lol. Too bad i cant order online
[02:32] <BiPolah> Which should be cheaper in USD.
[02:32] <BiPolah> Kylemm: Why not?
[02:32] <kylemm> no cc
[02:32] <fridgerator> anyone know what the dock bar a lot of people use where you have links to your computer and all your home folders is called?
[02:32] <danny_> does GParted do disk repair?
[02:32] <pnorman> kylemm: If you're in Vancouver or Toronto, try ncix.com.
[02:32] <BiPolah> Kylemm: Use a debit card? Ask a friend to do it for you then give them the money
[02:32] <kylemm> near toronto
[02:32] <rurufufuss> anyone have an idea why my irc can't connect to freenode, but webchat.freenode.net works?
[02:33] <chriss__> jack what does that mean __:
[02:33] <rurufufuss> like irssi and xchat just says "network is unreachable"
[02:33] <frnk> jack_: you certainly _don't_ want to temper with anything else than the chkdsk from MS for ntfs volumes
[02:33] <kylemm> BiPolah: mayb
[02:33] <kylemm> pnorman: mayb
[02:33] <arand> rurufufuss: are you behind a restrictive firewall?
[02:33] <frnk> btdt ;)
[02:33] <rurufufuss> arand: I managed to connect to other ircs though
[02:33] <BiPolah> Danny_: Yes it can. Dismount the drive then you can run a check
[02:33] <abc_> piranabig uo
[02:33] <rurufufuss> arand: you mean my ISP would block freenode?
[02:34] <kylemm> im mad :(.  I have been trying to do a simple visual effects thing for about 4hours lol and i cant do it on this live usb ;)
[02:34] <danny_> BiPolah maybe GParted could help with chriss__'s problem?
[02:34] <frnk> kylemm: which card?
[02:34] <kylemm> atleast i gain $50 from my report card
[02:34] <kylemm> NVIDIA OR smtin
[02:34] <arand> rurufufuss: I know mine blocks irc in general, I don't think they would block fnode in particular though, so your problem is likely something else...
[02:34] <BiPolah> danny_: I'm unsure what Chriss' problem is.
[02:35] <frnk> kylemm: invoke "lspci | grep -i nvidia" and paste it
[02:35] <danny_> kylemm what do you need? A drive to back up to?
[02:35] <fjgj> Is it normal that gcalctool does not remember its settings?
[02:35] <BiPolah> Also, trying to run gparted from terminal, get the message "Only uid 0 is authorized to inhibit the daemon". Anyone else think that sounds a bit arcane?
[02:35] <rurufufuss> arand: I see.. but nmap irc.freenode.net shows open irc channels though
[02:35] <kylemm> nvidia corporation G98
[02:35] <kylemm> danny_: idonno i prob wont persue
[02:36] <frnk> BiPolah: this just means that noones has to fsck with your drive than uid=0 (usually  root), which is GOOD
[02:36]  * ElderDryas decided to go to bed and come back tomorrow morning to see how the NVIDIA/LiveCd Saga is coming
[02:36] <BiPolah> frnk: I know, I just thought the message it gave me sounded a bit funny.
[02:36] <fridgerator> anyone know what the dock bar a lot of people use where you have links to your computer and all your home folders is called?
[02:37] <arand> rurufufuss: YOu could try connecting to a prticular server I guess
[02:37] <danny_> kylemm I have a 320GB drive and I'm near Toronto.
[02:37] <jack_> frnk: why is that?
[02:37] <danny_> I *could* sell it.
[02:37] <arand> rurufufuss: http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml
[02:37] <jack_> chriss__: what did you do that that partition? it needs to have a fuck run against it to check for corruption
[02:38] <jack_> fsck*
[02:38] <rurufufuss> arand: thanks, will try that in a sec
[02:38] <rww> ... *facepalm*
[02:38] <rurufufuss> arand: but wait, xchat seems to be trying different servers though
[02:38] <kylemm> i wish there was a way to try out the visual effects in LiveUSB o well
[02:38] <jrib> heh...
[02:38] <frnk> jack_: because the ntfs file system structure that certainly has not been reverse engineered entirely by the ntfs-3g project
[02:38] <jrib> kylemm: you can...
[02:38] <rurufufuss> oh yeah, whats the easiest way to install tor on ubuntu?
[02:39] <rurufufuss> might give irc over tor a try
[02:39] <kylemm> jrib: ive been trying to a few hours and cant seem to do it
[02:39] <danny_> if I have SSH is it worth using Landscape for backups? Or should I just automate?
[02:39] <chriss__> jack if it is currupted is there a way to get the files off of it or fix it
[02:39] <jrib> kylemm: well install nvidia drivers, make sure module is loaded, restart X
[02:39] <danny_> by backups I meant updates
[02:39] <danny_> I really should just go to bed! lol
[02:39] <kylemm> jrib: when i relog, the drivers still are not u know
[02:40] <jrib> kylemm: I have no idea what you just said
[02:40] <arand> rurufufuss: freenode over tor is a hassle, use it only if you really need to.
[02:40] <kylemm> jrib: i activate the driver, but when i restart X its not running
[02:40] <rww> !tor | rurufufuss
[02:40] <jrib> kylemm: you need to load the nvidia module
[02:41] <danny_> Wow... jack_ you wanna laugh?
[02:41] <kylemm> jrib: how do i do that sir?
[02:41] <rurufufuss> arand: I see, is it because its annoying to set up?
[02:41] <rurufufuss> !tir-sasl
[02:41] <rww> danny_: considering that he's been removed from the channel, this would be somewhat non-trivial.
[02:41] <rurufufuss> !tor-sasl
[02:41] <jrib> kylemm: modprobe nvidia
[02:41] <jack___> :x
[02:42] <kylemm> jrib: so i install the drive. and in terminal type that, then restart X and it should be running?
[02:42] <aroman> hey guys, I'm trying to remaster an Ubuntu ISO, and I'm getting this error running my remaster script: cryptsetup: WARNING: could not determine root device from /etc/fstab
[02:42] <aroman> i'm convinced that's what's causing me to drop to Busybox when I try and boot the remastered ISO
[02:42] <danny_> well we could all use the laugh I guess.... I made sure 4 times that I had used the correct iso... In the end... No I wasn't using the correct one... even though I looked at it 4 times
[02:42] <arand> rurufufuss: http://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en#ubuntu to get a tor version
[02:42] <jack___> chriss__: sorry. i somehow got disconnected it seems. frnk suggests doing NTFS fsck from the windows side. not sure how you're goign to go about donig htat
[02:42] <aroman> am I wrong?
[02:42] <rurufufuss> arand: ta, I got it installed
[02:42] <jrib> kylemm: no, the second step is loading the module, not just typing stuff (i.e. if your command does not succeed for whatever reason, it would not work)
[02:43] <rurufufuss> arand: I think I'll try to probe around a bit more and see later
[02:43] <chriss__> well I'm gonna leave it for now thanks any way jack I appreciate it
[02:43] <jack___> chriss__: no problem. what'd you do it to?
[02:43] <arand> rurufufuss: You need to request your freenode account to be setup appropriately by freenode staff
[02:43] <kylemm> jrib: okay well im going to try.
[02:43] <arand> rurufufuss: At least that's what I had to
[02:44] <chriss__> not sure I didn't a friend did just don't know how
[02:44] <arand> rurufufuss: And you will get a distincly more unstable/laggy connection
[02:44] <sarah1> Hello, does anyone want to troubleshoot ripping DVDs with me?
[02:44] <alejandro> how do i get out of fullscreen mode virtual box?
[02:44] <danny_> alejandro what host OS?
[02:44] <rurufufuss> arand: I see.. which channel should I go to for that?
[02:45] <danny_> alejandro try right ctrl+c
[02:45] <alejandro> it just says capture
[02:45] <Philip__> alejandro hit esc.
[02:45] <danny_> sorry I meant ctrl + f for fullscreen
[02:45] <alejandro> danny_, ok and ctrl + f to exit?
[02:46] <arand> rurufufuss: Hmm, reasing that page now it seems that the registering process is no longer required
[02:46] <danny_> that's right...
[02:46] <kylemm> jrib: u there? it says FATAL: Module nvidia not found
[02:46] <danny_> it will capture and then release to a smaller screen
[02:46] <danny_> then you can just mouse out and click on whatever you want
[02:46] <alejandro> K
[02:46] <arand> rurufufuss: #freenode is likely the most appropriate for this
[02:46] <piercedwater> Can anyone help me resolve slow write issues with my hard drives on Ubuntu 10.0.4?
[02:46] <alejandro> Thank
[02:46] <jrib> kylemm: you need to install it first
[02:47] <BiPolah> Piercedwater: Perhaps something else is trying to access the disk too, or your drive is failing.
[02:47] <kylemm> jrib: do u know the command to install it
[02:47] <piercedwater> Its a brand new drive
[02:47] <jrib> kylemm: you can use Additional Drivers
[02:47] <BiPolah> Piercedwater: Doesn't mean it's certainly not broken.
[02:47] <kylemm> jrib: is it Interact with the EFI Boot Manager
[02:47] <danny_> FINALLY! thanks jack__ for insistance I was a ____ - up. It was the wrong disk... I don't know how I managed to do that.... 4 times
[02:47] <jrib> kylemm: no?
[02:47] <kylemm> lol i dont get it
[02:48] <rurufufuss> arand: thanks, they were saying I need to connect using nicknames, I thought irc programs already do that automatically?
[02:48] <danny_> and by instance I meant insisting.
[02:48] <jrib> kylemm: then just install ubuntu, then you can restart
[02:48] <kylemm> im trying to do it without installing
[02:48] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  How should I change my path environment variable?
[02:48] <kylemm> i cant install without having backups
[02:49] <Sideways> Hi, not sure i'm in the right place, Ubuntu 10.10, asus p8p67 pro, wired nic worked fine, stopped working. only wireless connects.tried defaults, etc. E2000 liksys rtr-set static ip, was able to ping rtr-not net though. that stopped working as well. shows <IP_ADDRESS> as ip. anyone have an idea what I should be reading?
[02:49] <arand> rurufufuss: I don't actually know
[02:49] <kylemm> stupid liveUSB
[02:49] <kylemm> cant do the function lol
[02:49] <rurufufuss> arand: thanks anyways!
[02:50] <arand> rurufufuss: But I guess in irssi it's a simple matter of /set nick etc.
[02:50] <kylemm> has any1 sucessfully got the visual effects to work on a LIVECD or LIVEUSB, with Nvidia drives?
[02:51] <danny_> kylemm why do you want to see visual effects so badly? It's cool. It works. That's all you really need to know about it. Are you worried about it lagging your system?
[02:51] <kylemm> danny_: no
[02:52] <kylemm> danny_: the visual effects are the main reason i wanted to try this :D
[02:52] <bastidrazor> SeanInSeattle: you're wanting to add something to your path?
[02:52] <danny_> is it that you're considering making the switch to Ubuntu? Currently on windows?
[02:52] <doodlenox> i still cannot access the menu down the left side of the screen!
[02:53] <kylemm> im never going to switch from windows. But i might put this on a USB or external
[02:53] <u2me> disconnect
[02:53] <danny_> why not dualboot?
[02:54] <Sideways> I have been using winX because i was a graphic designer/web programmer. always liked GNU, trying to use as main OS.
[02:54] <gpc> !ot
[02:54] <kylemm> dualboot i dont want any possible messing with my files
[02:54] <KB1JWQ> kylemm: Not true.
[02:54] <tripps> how do I manually unsuspend a device that was auto suspended (laptop mode tools)? I've tried catting values to /sys/bus/usb/drivers/usbhid/<deviceid>/power/level and /wakeup and /suspend ad nauseum but nothing seems to work.
[02:54] <KB1JWQ> kylemm: VirtualBox is an Oracle product.
[02:54] <danny_> Dude... seriously.... Oracle VM VirtualBox. That's what I'm using. The only thing you're going to notice is grub on bootup if you dual boot
[02:54] <DaGeek247> anyone know of a good fast flash plugin for ubuntu?
[02:54] <kylemm> well
[02:54] <danny_> they stay completely separate.
[02:54] <kylemm> should i do virtual box?
[02:55] <danny_> try it in virtual box.
[02:55] <danny_> It's free and it acts like a full system.
[02:55] <danny_> You get to try the infamous 7 click install
[02:55] <danny_> with no risk
[02:55] <kylemm> but it acts like dual boot tho right
[02:55] <danny_> NO.
[02:55] <kylemm> bcuz it takes ram from me
[02:55] <kylemm> and sheit
[02:55] <danny_> yes it will take ram and processor to run it.
[02:55] <kylemm> it takes space from my hard drive
[02:56] <danny_> Not when you delete it
[02:56] <BiPolah> Kylemm: It's not dual booting. It's running it on a virtual platform.
[02:56] <kylemm> its like basically installing linux to my hard drive tho
[02:56] <danny_> No. It installs Linux to a file
[02:56] <danny_> a .vdi file
[02:56] <lighta> you could just set your usb with permanent sys wich enable you to edit it
[02:57] <gartral|cr48> ok, what is not essential for ubuntu.. i'm trying to trim down the install to an absolute bare minimum.. say... 2.5-30 gigs..
[02:57] <kylemm> well i gotta go shower
[02:57] <gartral|cr48> 3.0
[02:57] <kylemm> ill be bak in 15min
[02:57] <RedXIII> Hey, I'm trying to move data off a HDD I imaged to another drive. GParted is saying it can't check the partition because of some /etc/mtab issue, does anyone have insight?
[02:57] <BiPolah> Gartral|cr48: I don't think default Ubuntu uses that much even without "trimming".
[02:58] <DaGeek247> What is the best fast flashplayer for ubuntu?
[02:58] <gpc> gartral|cr48: why not install using the !minimal cd?
[02:58] <danny_> have a good one all. I'm outta here.
[02:58] <kylemm> what happens if i open my hard drive in my computer thats for windows in this liveCD version.
[02:58] <BiPolah> DaGeek: You can get flash, java and mp3 functionality, among other things, with ubuntu restricted extras
[02:58] <gartral|cr48> gpc: see my username. I'm on a cr|48 it's a dance and a half just booting it.
[02:58] <BiPolah> Kylemm: It displays the files on that drive.
[02:58] <DaGeek247> i have flash running. its rediculously slow. where is a faster player?
[02:58] <BiPolah> DaGeek: Put this in your terminal: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:59] <kylemm> BiPolah: will it mess with anything if i like double click  a game :D
[02:59] <gpc> gartral|cr48: get rid of openoffice,evolution,games...
[02:59] <BiPolah> DaGeek; Uninstall the current player you have installed before installing restricted extras
[02:59] <aroman> hey guys, I'm trying to remaster an Ubuntu ISO, and I'm getting this error running my remaster script: cryptsetup: WARNING: could not determine root device from /etc/fstab. i'm convinced that's what's causing me to drop to Busybox when I try and boot the remastered ISO Am I wrong?
[02:59] <BiPolah> Kylemm: It won't work. You could get WINE and run it and it might work.
[02:59] <DaGeek247> BiPolah, i'e told people to do that in this channel before. :)
[02:59] <DaGeek247> i have the restricted extras.
[03:00] <BiPolah> DaGeek: Well if the adobe plugin (flashplugin-installer) isn't working right, uninstall it and try out Gnash or something
[03:00] <DaGeek247> gnash?
[03:00] <DaGeek247> !gnash
[03:00] <Philip__> I've tried GNASH, didn't work.
[03:01] <Philip__> Still fails to play YouTube Videos
[03:01] <DaGeek247> i wanna get stuff on (onemorelevel.com) to work faster.
[03:01] <BiPolah> Philip_: I had to help a guy yesterday that was having problems with Gnash. Got him to switch to adobe flash player and it worked fine
[03:02] <BiPolah> DaGeek247: Is it running slowly or just loading slowly?
[03:02] <Philip__> Yeah I switched to Flash, Alot better, atleast it works. May be buggy (Due to OpenGL not being as polished as DirectX mind you) But, It works.
[03:02]  * psusi wonders when youtube will quit using craprobat flash
[03:02] <DaGeek247> running slowly
[03:02] <Philip__> psusi once they finish updating HTMl5 etc.
[03:03] <fnuser> hello,  anyone knows of a simple way to rename the default right click entries(copy, remove, etc) in thunar?
[03:03] <DaGeek247> psusi, what other multiplatform software would it use?
[03:03] <psusi> Philip__, what do either opengl or directx have to do with it?  those are for 3d, not 2d
[03:03] <Philip__> Flash is 3D>
[03:03] <psusi> DaGeek247, standard format video files and leave the software that plays it up to the client
[03:03] <alejandro> danny_, are u there?
[03:03] <Philip__> It REQUIRES 3D acceleration support.
[03:04] <psusi> youtube videos aren't 3d
[03:04] <truepurple> When I go to download ubuntu 10.10 64bit, it has "amd" right before "64" Why?  Is it saying that its only for AMD CPU's or something?
[03:04] <Philip__> psusi while the Videos may not be 3D the Application itself requires 3D Acceleration for proper loading.
[03:04] <BiPolah> truepurple: The 32bit has i386, 64 bit has amd64
[03:05] <psusi> mpeg and avi files played just fine long before adobe made flash... never understood why everyone started using flash to play video
[03:05] <Starminn> truepurple: Intel borrowed AMD's technology for 64-bit because Intel's implementation wasn't good.
[03:05] <Philip__> truepurple AMD created 64BIT first. So, It's named after AMD.
[03:05] <rww> truepurple: amd64 will work fine on Intel x86_64/EMT64/Intel64 processors
[03:05] <DaGeek247> psusi, mpeg would work, but avi has problems.
[03:05] <psusi> truepurple, no, it is because amd designed the architecture, and now intel licences it from them
[03:05] <Starminn> BiPolah: Mine's i686 and 32-bit
[03:05] <Philip__> Exactly what rww said.
[03:05] <psusi> Philip__, what for?
[03:05] <Philip__> psusi for proper video playback.
[03:06] <truepurple> Philip_ a i5 760, that is one of those?
[03:06] <rww> Ubuntu has an odd tendency to use i386 when they mean i686 :\
[03:06] <nowarninglabel> What are the logical steps to follow when after installing lynx, the drive is not being recognized/booted on startup?
[03:06] <psusi> Philip__, actually intel did it first, they just chose a different architecture that was not backwards compatible, which never saw widespread adoption
[03:06] <Philip__> TruePurple, that supports 64BIT fine.
[03:06] <BiPolah> Starminn: All the .iso's I've downloaded were i386
[03:06] <psusi> Philip__, video playback != 3d rendering
[03:07] <lmvc> Does anyone knows how to open a pdf file by using the terminal (commands). Trying to get some practice with the command line terminal. Please help me
[03:07] <truepurple> And it works with everything that supports 64bit?
[03:07] <Philip__> Yes Truepurple.
[03:07] <Starminn> BiPolah: $ uname -a (gives me this:) Linux robert-Dell-DME510 2.6.35-25-generic-pae #44-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 21 19:01:46 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:08] <Philip__> Any modern CPU will support the 64 bit Arc.
[03:08] <bastidrazor> lmvc: evince    .. or you can use 'gnome-open file'
[03:08] <BiPolah> Starminn: Linux ABarbour-Ubuntu 2.6.35-25-generic #44-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 21 17:40:48 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:08] <Starminn> BiPolah: Why or how, I don't know, but all I know is I see an i686 in there. Beyond that, you've got me. :)
[03:08] <truepurple> Thankyou
[03:08] <rurufufuss_> guys, is there a reason why changing the cursor through the "appearances" thing doesn't work?
[03:08] <BiPolah> Starminn: The iso I've got is 386, how quaint. What's the -pae thing after generic on yours?
[03:09] <lmvc> Thanks Bastidrazor
[03:09] <bastidrazor> ubottu: tell BiPolah about pae
[03:09] <Starminn> BiPolah: Physical Address Extension. It's used for addressing more than 4GB of physical RAM
[03:09] <Starminn> BiPolah: Oh, ubottu's got you
[03:09] <truepurple> Is it true that you need a fat16 FS to do a ubuntu live CD from flash drive? It won't work with say fat32 or other more advanced FS?
[03:09] <bastidrazor> lmvc: you're welcome. gnome-open is handy for when you don't know what program to use to open a file
[03:09] <BiPolah> Starminn: Oh right, that.
[03:10] <rww> BiPolah, Starminn: Ubuntu labels their ISOs i386. As of Ubuntu 10.10, all 32-bit x86 Ubuntu kernels/repositories/etc. are actually i686, despite the ISO filename.
[03:10] <rww> before that, I think they were i586 or something.
[03:10] <trench> true
[03:11] <i4ba1> how to show grub on boot menu?
[03:11] <i4ba1> after fixmbr for my windows
[03:11] <i4ba1> the grub not show on boot menu
[03:11] <Starminn> rww: Aha! Makes sense. And I suppose before that i386. (i386->i586->i686) Thank you for clearing that up
[03:11] <rww> Given that practically all x86 processors fast enough to run Ubuntu are i686 anyway, this is not a notable difference ;)
[03:11] <i4ba1> i have dual boot, windows and ubuntu
[03:12] <i4ba1> can you help me guys?
[03:12] <alejandro> in virtualbox how do i start windows xp so that i do not have to install it each time i run it?
[03:12] <trench> i4ba1: boot with a recovery cd or usb
[03:12] <psion> is there a command to put the computer to sleep/hibernate?
[03:12] <lmvc> Thanks for your help <bastidrazor> just joined to Ubuntu society. Feeling so good.
[03:12] <brandon420> whats the best audio visualization?
[03:13] <rww> Starminn: I don't think Ubuntu ever actually supported i386 processors. Debian stopped supporting them in Sarge. They still call their x86 architecture stuff i386, though, and I guess the name stuck.
[03:13] <bastidrazor> i4ba1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[03:13] <|Long|> need some help i forgot mysql password how can i recovery?
[03:13] <scott__> hello
[03:13] <rww> (Debian still supports i486 and higher, iirc.)
[03:13] <Starminn> rww: Oh.  Well, that's how things go. Names stick and who's to be the wiser? :)
[03:13] <trench> !mysql ||long|
[03:14] <trench> doh
[03:14] <bastidrazor> lmvc: you're welcome.. here are some links you may find interesting :: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal  http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[03:14] <scott__> I
[03:14] <scott__> O
[03:15] <scott__> I'm having problems getting my iPhone 3GS to be recognized in Pinguy OS 10.10.  Does anybody know of any websites I can check out?
[03:15] <trench> how do you change stuff in the bot?
[03:15] <icedtea> anyone know an undelete command for linux?
[03:15] <BiPolah> trench: bot as in robot, or bot as in bottom panel?
[03:16] <rww> scott__: #ubuntu doesn't support unofficial derivatives of Ubuntu. /join #pinguyos for support with it.
[03:16] <scott__> Also, does anybody know if it's official that the global menu in natty will support Firefox and Openoffice/Libreoffice
[03:16] <scott__> thanks rww
[03:16] <i4ba1> bastidrazor, do you have simple way to solve my problem?
[03:17] <rww> trench: the basic form to submit a factoid suggestions is: /msg ubottu !no, factoidname is <reply> new text here
[03:17] <rww> trench: /msg ubottu !bot links to the full command list that includes more complicated ways
[03:17] <rww> s/suggestions/suggestion/
[03:17] <trench> and whokey
[03:17] <trench> okey
[03:18] <speedy> wuz up peeps
[03:18] <t73net> Hey all. I'm looking for someone to help me troubleshoot some domain name issues using Webmin/Bind Dns Module. PM me for info please
[03:18] <rww> !webmin
[03:19] <t73net> Is there a better solution for backend management instead of Webmin?
[03:20] <techbreak> I am stuck with java installation in ubuntu .. help please
[03:21] <BiPolah> techbreak: How so?
[03:21] <bazhang> techbreak, enable partner repo and install from there
[03:21] <trench> |Long|: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[03:21] <SvenDSquueze> Hello all. It seems that Alsa OSS emulation has been dropped. Is there any easy way to get that back? I need the midi emulation layer (access  to /dev/midi00), not dsp (like padsp would allow).
[03:21] <bazhang> !partner | techbreak
[03:22] <JavaAtom> dumb qeustion: running Arch linux and want to put the 10.10 netbook iso onto a USB drive. Is Unetbootin the best way to go about doing that?
[03:22] <techbreak> BiPolah, I installed java jre 6 now I need to install jdk, I am stuck
[03:22] <bazhang> JavaAtom, sure
[03:22] <BiPolah> The easiest way to install java is to just get it with ubuntu restricted extras, else there's a number of packages you need to get individually
[03:22] <techbreak> bazhang, thanks.. trying
[03:22] <BiPolah> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:22] <JavaAtom> bazhang: Is there a more direct way? (e.g. w/o unetbootin?)
[03:22] <bazhang> JavaAtom, manually
[03:22] <bazhang> !usb | JavaAtom
[03:23] <bazhang> JavaAtom, check the first link
[03:23] <truepurple> Does someone know about installing ubunutu from live CD usb flash drive?
[03:23] <JavaAtom> bazhang: Doh. Thanks.
[03:23] <bazhang> truepurple, yes, ask a question
[03:23] <JavaAtom> truepurple: Done it before -- what do you need?
[03:24] <truepurple> I need to know if fat16 is required
[03:24] <trench> !mysqlpass is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[03:24] <BiPolah> Truepurple: We certainly don't. None of here actually use Ubuntu, we don't understand it.
[03:24] <bazhang> truepurple, what have you tried so far
[03:25] <truepurple> Stuff online does not speak of needing fat16, and actually makes unetbootin sound compatible with it. But someone here yesterday said it doesn't work
[03:25] <techbreak> bazhang, says command not found "apt-get-repository"
[03:25] <bazhang> truepurple, please answer my question
[03:25] <JavaAtom> aha. Found `usb-creator` for my distro
[03:25] <JavaAtom> Thanks
[03:25] <bazhang> techbreak, thats not the command
[03:25] <doodlenox> should i post my problem in some of the forums - the issue where i cant access the left side menu column
[03:25] <BiPolah> !bayesian
[03:26] <truepurple> I tried downloading and installing at the same time with unetbootin on a fat32 formated USB drive, but something didn't work. It could have been my running out of HDD space on my main drive
[03:26] <bazhang> BiPolah, /msg ubottu please
[03:26] <trench> !mysql is a fast, multi-threaded, multi-user, and robust SQL database server. It is intended for mission-critical, heavy-load production systems as well as for embedding into mass-deployed software. Read more about it here: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/mysql.html
[03:26] <rww> techbreak: it's add-apt-repository
[03:26] <bazhang> JavaAtom, unetbootin.sourceforge.net should have one as well
[03:26] <techbreak> rww, bazhang oops.. ok ok
[03:26] <lmvc> Because my computer is very old, I decided to run Ubuntu under it. Ubuntu is working so amazing, but I still have a problem. When I open a pdf file, it makes everything slower. I dont know if this happens because of the pdf reader that was intalled by default. Does anyone know how to fix this, maybe there exist other pdf reades under ubuntu. Thanks in advance
[03:26] <BiPolah> Doodlenox: What version are you using?
[03:26] <bazhang> trench, please do that in /msg ubottu
[03:26] <trench> okey
[03:27] <truepurple> I am trying to download the ISO now, it wont leave me much room, and for some reason the download is insanely slow
[03:27] <bazhang> truepurple, could be a bad 'burn'
[03:27] <BiPolah> What exactly does bogofilter run with?
[03:27] <trench> truepurple: why download the full iso?
[03:27] <techbreak> rww, bazhang once again the full command please
[03:27] <rww> !partner
[03:27] <BiPolah> Truepurple, if directly download is taking a long time  you can try the torrent
[03:27] <truepurple> bazhang: Is fat16 a required FS? Or can I use fat32?
[03:28] <BiPolah> Truepurple: Why do you need to use FAT, why not ext3 or ext4?
[03:28] <bazhang> truepurple, required? never heard of 'required'
[03:29] <truepurple> Well, I can't format ext from XP...
[03:29] <psycho_oreos> you let ubuntu do that
[03:29] <doodlenox> bipolah i am using the latest - netbook
[03:29] <truepurple> Why should I need ext4 on a USB flash drive anyway?
[03:30] <doodlenox> BiPolah - ubuntu-10.10-netbook-i386.iso
[03:30] <trench> miniiso | truepurple
[03:30] <skutr3> hey i have no sound on ubuntu 10.10 can anyone help me?
[03:31] <trench> skutr3: what kind of error?
[03:31] <trench> skutr3: sure your sound is not muted?
[03:31] <skutr3> trench: no errors just no sound songs will play without audio
[03:31] <truepurple> So I can use fat32 to base my turning a USB flash drive into a "live cd"?
[03:31] <skutr3> trench: pretty sure
[03:31] <BiPolah> I assume bogofilter works with Evolution?
[03:32] <Leif> Am I the only one having issues with the recent flash update?
[03:32] <tijani> hola
[03:32] <Leif> Or is anyone else having issues?
[03:32] <BiPolah> !spanish | tijani
[03:32] <trench> skutr3: gome-volum-control says?
[03:33] <skutr3> trench: havent tried that yet
[03:33] <BiPolah> Leif: There was a guy earlier having issues, but apart from that most people have had no problem.
[03:33] <trench> skutr3: see if it's muted
[03:33] <BiPolah> Leif: Running 10.10 with flashplugin 10.2?
[03:33] <Leif> BiDOrD, Mmm...okay.
[03:33] <Leif> BiPolah, Yes
[03:33] <skutr3> trench: command not found
[03:33] <truepurple> trench what do you mean by miniiso?
[03:33] <Starminn> skutr3: gnome-volume-control
[03:33] <skutr3> oh lol
[03:33] <Starminn> skutr3: His hand just missed a few keys. :) Typos happend to us all
[03:33] <trench> yeah sorry
[03:33] <trench> :)
[03:34] <Starminn> Including mine just now. "happend" meant to be happen*
[03:34] <skutr3> haha
[03:34] <trench> truepurple: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[03:34] <skutr3> trench: Starminn: nothing muted
[03:34] <Leif> BiPolah, So, is there anything I can do?  (As I doubt an uninstall/reisntall) would help.  Perhaps getting it from adobe's website?
[03:35] <trench> !sound | skutr3
[03:35] <BiPolah> Leif: I don't think there is. We couldn't get it to work for the previous guy, although it's working for other people on Maverick. It could be a conflict with another package you have installed, but I've no idea what.
[03:35] <skutr3> trench: ive been to these too no luck
[03:36] <truepurple> trench so its another name for netinstall?
[03:36] <Starminn> skutr3: If your audio player's volume up? Have you tried other sound-emitting things (i.e. YouTube) to see if it's jus that program? I assume everything is plugged in? (Beyond that check ubottu's suggestion)
[03:36] <skutr3> Starminn: yes
[03:36] <trench> truepurple: yes
[03:36] <Leif> BiPolah, Mmm..okay.  Thanks anyway. I'll see what I can do.