[12:55] <Rhonda> Hmm, I don't see impish on the archive mirrors yet, should they be already?
[12:55] <tumbleweed> it should. I see it on archive.ubuntu.com
[12:56] <Rhonda> http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/releases/ doesn't has it … maybe I found a broken mirror?
[12:57] <tumbleweed> releases = CDs
[12:57] <tumbleweed> /ubuntu/ = archive
[12:57] <Rhonda> Oh, I was in a strange directory, indeed, that was my fault. :)
[13:01] <Rhonda> I wonder, I likely should phase out xenial from the packages website now, right?
[13:01] <tumbleweed> it's still in extended support
[13:02] <Rhonda> Yes, but not on the regular archive.
[13:02] <tumbleweed> yeah
[13:02] <tumbleweed> in general the community ignores ESM
[13:02] <Rhonda> I mean, i don't have trusty in there anymore, and that's also for another year in extended support.
[13:03] <tumbleweed> but from the user's PoV listing ESM releases would make some sense
[13:03] <tumbleweed> yeah, treat it the same as trusty
[13:04] <Rhonda> I am thinking of dropping groovy already too, even though it ends in july … hmm


[20:41] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: You appear to have broken -controls in the autobuilds.
[20:43] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: oh good...
[20:44] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Nm, it was the autobuild duplicating your manual build.
[20:44] <OvenWerks> The version is wrong... I will fix it next push
[20:46] <Eickmeyer> Ok. Shouldn't have mattered as it's versioned based on the commit time.
[20:51] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer:  version is 1.11.3ubuntu1 (what dch set it to) I didn't change it.
[20:52] <OvenWerks> 9(I should have)
[20:52] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Controls should never have ubuntu1 appended. Just remove that.
[20:52] <Eickmeyer> It's a native package. If it weren't native, then it would need that ubuntu1, but since it's native, it needs that removed.
[20:52] <OvenWerks> But I am not expecting it to be built yet ... I will remove it next push
[20:52] <Eickmeyer> Ok
[20:53] <Eickmeyer> It automatically builds in autobuilds every 24 hours, regardless.
[20:53] <Eickmeyer> (if there were changes pushed)
[20:54] <OvenWerks> I just changed it to build on request, I will hit daily when I have pushed
[20:54] <Eickmeyer> Ok


[05:35] <mapps> hi
[05:42] <mapps> noone awake at this lovely hour
[05:42] <mapps> raining here again
[05:42] <mapps> O_o
[09:48] <dwatkins> I was awake, I just didn't get out of bed.
[10:15] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[16:26] <fancooler> #plovdiv
[16:27] <daftykins> that looks like a channel name, why share it here? are you trying to join it?
[16:29] <fancooler> I'm sorry. Yes, I'm trying to join to this channel.
[16:30] <daftykins> "/join #blah" then
[16:30] <fancooler> Thank you, mate!
[16:30] <fancooler> :)
[16:51] <diddledan> note, we take no reponsibility for the content of the #blah channel
[16:52] <diddledan> I hate that on websites when you click a link where they moan "we cannot be held liable for content of third-party sites. proceeding with this action is at your own risk."
[16:53] <daftykins> ;)
[16:54] <diddledan> e.g. a site that I worked on inisisted on this:  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/2wKQuoOA/maalox
[16:56] <diddledan> that's on a different platform to the one I worked on though - I did it with Drupal, but it seems they've moved it elsewhere now
[17:16] <Azelphur> Hey folks, got a machine running Ubuntu 15.10, upgraded to a 4k TV, it boots, and decides to put itself into 4k mode, which doesn't work (It's a xeon so it doesn't support 4k) does anyone have any idea how to make it stick to 1080p?
[17:17] <daftykins> EOL release so run something supported first
[17:17]  * penguin42 is surprised it puts itself into 4k mode if it doesn't support it;  pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:18] <daftykins> or was that a typo...
[17:18] <Azelphur> good point
[17:19] <daftykins> what was that quirk that happened with that same CPU a bit ago? oh it was HDMI audio wasn't it?
[17:20] <Azelphur> daftykins, yup
[17:20] <Azelphur> same machine :)
[17:25] <daftykins> mmm i remember someone buy a xeon over a desktop chip for a price saving, wonder if it had the same quirks
[17:26] <Azelphur> daftykins, who knows, this is a dell server so obviously not really intended for my use case
[17:27] <daftykins> how'd you end up using it for so then? XD
[17:32] <Azelphur> daftykins, I didn't, it's my parents machine
[17:32] <Azelphur> daftykins, I told them to buy it as a media backend to be used with frontends
[17:32] <Azelphur> my dad cheaped out and decided to use it as both frontend and backend
[17:32] <Azelphur> :P
[17:33] <daftykins> blech folk and chasing the past of live TV
[17:33] <penguin42> I think this might depend on which Xeon it is; there's big variations - most of the Xeons dont have onboard graphics
[17:49] <Azelphur> daftykins, ok on 16.04 same issue now what :P
[17:52] <daftykins> log as penguin42 asked
[17:52] <daftykins> gotta see what X is up to
[17:54] <Azelphur> daftykins / penguin42 http://paste.ubuntu.com/23579226/
[17:54] <Azelphur> X runs just fine, if I ssh in and use xrandr to change the resolution to 1080p it comes up straight away.
[17:54] <Azelphur> I think it's just some issue related to Xeon integrated graphics + 4k, but I don't want 4k anyway
[17:55] <penguin42> that's all?
[17:55] <Azelphur> that's all
[17:55] <Azelphur> that's cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[17:56] <penguin42> bit minimal - I'd expected to see EDID and modes for the display
[17:56] <Azelphur> I can give you xrandr if you like
[17:57] <penguin42> you can add an xrandr command in a dot file that would probably force it
[17:57] <Azelphur> penguin42, I tried adding it to ~/.xinitrc but no life
[17:59] <penguin42> Azelphur: Try .xsession ?
[17:59] <penguin42> Azelphur: see man Xsession
[18:00] <daftykins> Azelphur: yeah but that's not running fine, that's autodetecting wrong and being unusable surely :P
[18:00] <Azelphur> penguin42, no luck there either, I think it's not even running it
[18:01] <Azelphur> I stuck xrandr > /home/user/xrandr.txt and xrandr --output HDMI2 --mode 1920x1080
[18:01] <Azelphur> xrandr.txt isn't created (running it manually works fine)
[18:01] <daftykins> btw you don't have to cat logs to pastebinit :) just "pastebinit x"
[18:01]  * penguin42 makes some food back shortly
[18:02] <Azelphur> daftykins, fun
[18:05] <Azelphur> so any ideas?
[18:07] <daftykins> yeah use a xorg.conf to force 1920x1080 at boot
[18:07] <daftykins> hang on...
[18:07] <Azelphur> how do I generate an xorg conf again>
[18:07] <daftykins> is 16.04 really using kernel 4.4
[18:07] <Azelphur> ?
[18:08] <Azelphur> 4.4.0-51-generic
[18:08] <daftykins> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[18:08] <lubotu3`> linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>.54 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 12 kB
[18:08] <daftykins> ok, just my memory
[18:08] <daftykins> and i don't know
[18:09] <daftykins> you seem to have two non-standard boot params, nomdmonddf nomdmonisw
[18:10] <Azelphur> that's weird, I don't remember doing that
[18:10] <Azelphur> also, apparently sudo X -configure is supposed to generate a config file, but that doesn't work
[18:11] <daftykins> wouldn't hurt to boot a 16.04.1 live session and see how it behaves, unless you're doing all this remotely
[18:12] <Azelphur> nah I'm in front of it
[18:12] <Azelphur> gonna try xorg.conf first
[18:16] <Azelphur> daftykins, created /etc/X11/xorg.conf with http://paste.ubuntu.com/23579328/ still running at 4k :(
[18:21] <diddledan> are you sure that modeline is right?
[18:22] <Azelphur> I generated it with cvt
[18:26] <penguin42> Azelphur: Does it mention your configured monitor in the Xorg.0.log now?
[18:26] <Azelphur> penguin42, think so? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23579377/
[18:26] <Azelphur> oh wait, it says VGA1, that's not right
[18:27] <Azelphur> it's on HDMI2
[18:27] <penguin42> ah now that's got the full EDID which is what I was expecting
[18:28] <Azelphur> that's good
[18:29] <Azelphur> I think the reason I get a black screen at 4k is because it's a xeon and doesn't have the vram for it
[18:29] <Azelphur> but, I want 1080p anyway
[18:32] <Azelphur> well that's fun, I've now got it to the point where it says it's doing 1080p but has actually added a new line to xrandr output, and get no signal
[18:35] <penguin42> Azelphur: In your Device section I think try adding an Option "Monitor-HDMI2" "Configured monitor"
[18:35] <penguin42> M
[18:36]  * penguin42 worries when he's going to have to do this to Wayland - got no clue what to poke
[18:38] <Azelphur> penguin42, [     4.297] (II) intel(0): Output HDMI2 using monitor section Configured Monitor
[18:38] <Azelphur> but still running at 4k
[18:39] <penguin42> hmm
[18:40] <penguin42> Option "PreferredMode" "1920x1080" ?
[18:40] <Azelphur> Success: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23579452/
[18:41] <Azelphur> penguin42 / daftykins  thanks folks :)
[18:41] <penguin42> excellent - save it somewhere and dont touch it or ask why it works :-)
[18:41] <Azelphur> exactly.
[18:41] <penguin42> Azelphur: You might be able to get 4k @ 30Hz out of it
[18:42] <Azelphur> penguin42, yea you can
[18:45] <daftykins> that always ends up looking terrible from what i've seen
[18:52] <m0nkey_> Anyone using ZFS on Ubuntu, is it stable?
[21:24] <SebthreeBQM10HD> h]
[22:58] <Azelphur> Hey folks, I got display problem #2, different computer (laptop actually) and a 55" TV I've had for a while, the manual claims that it does 1080p @ 120hz ( http://imgur.com/a/8s2Z4 my model is the far right one ) xrandr only offers 60hz. Any suggestions?
[22:59] <daftykins> yeah you're SOL
[23:00] <Azelphur> daftykins, why? :<
[23:48] <diddledan> http://i.imgur.com/Hqk5M7B.jpg
[23:50] <zmoylan-pi> i like to think of dec 25 as the birthday of one of the greatest... isaac newtown, the invention of the catflap alone has saved millions of hours of human endeavour from standing holding a door open while a cat tries to make up their mind...
[23:52] <daftykins> :D


[00:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3337 Abandoning ticket
[00:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3337 Preparing packages
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[01:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3337 Pending binary packages (cosmic/gnome-shell). Successfully built (cosmic/gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock, cosmic/mutter, cosmic/yaru-theme)
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[06:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3337 Needs rebuild due to burned version number (cosmic/mutter). Successfully built (cosmic/gnome-shell, cosmic/gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock, cosmic/yaru-theme)
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[09:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3335 Uploading build
[09:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3337 Ready to build (cosmic/gnome-shell, cosmic/mutter). Release pocket (cosmic/yaru-theme). Successfully built (cosmic/gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock)
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[11:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jamespage, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3331 Failed to build
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[12:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3339 Generating diffs
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[14:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3337 Proposed pocket (cosmic/gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock). Ready to build (cosmic/gnome-shell, cosmic/mutter). Release pocket (cosmic/yaru-theme)
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[15:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3337 Ready to build (cosmic/gnome-shell, cosmic/mutter). Release pocket (cosmic/gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock, cosmic/yaru-theme)
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[16:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3340 Preparing packages
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[19:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3338 Abandoning ticket
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[20:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3340 Generating diffs
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[20:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3341 Preparing packages
[21:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3338 Publishing packages
[21:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3338 UNAPPROVED queue
[23:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3341 Generating diffs
[23:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3341 Publishing packages


[11:16] <doko_> arthur-: D ping
[11:43] <arthur-> doko: D pong
[11:43] <doko> could you update the D packaging bits for 4.2 over the weekend (if you have time)
[11:46] <arthur-> doko: I'm not sure I'll have, university begin on tuesday for me, I'll try
[11:47] <doko> ok, never mind
[11:48] <arthur-> :)
[11:48] <arthur-> doko: can you upload gdc?
[11:49] <doko> arthur-: gutsy?
[11:49] <arthur-> doko: sid
[11:49] <doko> please prepare a combined i386/powerpc upload
[11:50] <arthur-> doko: *_multi.changes :-)
[11:50] <doko> yes
[11:50] <arthur-> ok
[12:05] <arthur-> doko: build should take about 3 hours on my i386, please bear with me :-)
[12:55] <arthur-> doko: is your sid schroot up-to-date ou powerpc?
[12:55] <arthur-> s/ou/on/
[01:09] <doko> should be recent, yes
[01:10] <arthur-> ok :)
[06:08] <arthur-> doko: built: http://paste.dunnewind.net/364
[06:10] <arthur-> doko: please tell me where do you want me to put it when you are around
[06:11] <doko> arthur-: well, adding the upstream changes as a patch was to avoid a new upstream version, but now you do have a new one ...
[06:11] <arthur-> doko: I've asked you about the version and shown you this one, you answered "as you want"
[06:14] <doko> hmm ...
[06:46] <arthur-> doko: which version number would you like?
[10:04] <arthur-> doko: around?


[13:53] <ubuntuarm-user> Hi, I'd like to modify the ubuntu base rootfs tarball so that it contains the openssh server. What is the easiest way to do this?
[13:54] <rbasak> Doing that is dangerous. You'll end up with cloned private host keys which is a security problem.
[13:54] <rbasak> So you have to work around all of that, which is error-prone.
[13:54] <rbasak> Better to use official images that include cloud-init.
[13:55] <ubuntuarm-user> i see
[13:56] <ubuntuarm-user> I didn't know that something like cloudinit exists. I'll have a look. thanks