[04:05] <tsimonq2> LocutusOfBorg: In my honest opinion, we should probably allow for a few weeks of manual transition handling where we take care not to tangle transitions before we unleash the autosync beast, or at least assess which transitions will fly in and work on getting the big ones done quickly as individuals before autosync.
[04:06] <tsimonq2> It might be slightly tedious, but it's probably much, much less tedious than fighting all 20 as a single, intertwined beast for a month and a half (like the last few cycles).
[04:06] <tsimonq2> I'll personally be around to help with p-m but I also want to get Qt 5.11.2 done, which should be quick and painless given it's a patch release bump.
[04:08] <tsimonq2> (My point is, do an actual assessment and see where things *will* tangle, and fix all of that *prior* to setting off autosync, which, if done right, saves time.)
[08:30] <infinity> Laney: WTB autopkgtest for disco at your earliest convenience.
[08:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: partd (cosmic-proposed/universe) [0.3.8-1 => 0.3.8-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[08:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: patsy (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.4.1+git34-ga5b54c2-1 => 0.4.1+git34-ga5b54c2-1ubuntu0.1] (no packageset)
[09:03] <Laney> infinity: oh
[09:04] <infinity> Laney: No huge rush, I still have to get all the reports going.  But would be nice if autopkgtest was ready around when britney is.
[09:04] <Laney> if there's an archive it can be done
[09:05] <infinity> Laney: There's half of one.  Waiting on some SQL magic before the second publisher pass.
[09:06] <Laney> aight
[09:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: 6901 entries have been added or removed
[09:09] <doko> is there separate hints for earlier releases?
[09:10] <Laney> seems my fingers want to type dingo for this one
[09:11] <Laney> GREAT.
[09:11] <Laney> doko: you mean https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sru/ ?
[09:12]  * Laney made the chdists on snakefruit
[09:13] <doko> ahh, yes
[09:26] <doko> stgraber (or somebody else): please update the snapcraft hint for bionic
[09:29] <doko> infinity (or somebody else): please update the open-iscsi hint for bionic
[09:33] <infinity> doko: Uhm, no?
[09:33] <infinity> doko: It's a regression.
[09:33] <infinity> doko: The fact that there's an ancient hint isn't relevant.
[09:34] <infinity> doko: Looks like it needs to be triggered with python3-defaults and python3.6 together.
[09:36] <doko> infinity: no, the "testsuite" test doesn't have any python3 dependency
[09:36] <doko> and the nested test succeeds
[09:37] <infinity> doko: I can literally see it attempt to install python and fail in the log.
[09:37] <doko> python3
[09:37] <infinity> Yes...
[09:37] <infinity> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:37] <infinity>  libpython3-stdlib : Depends: libpython3.6-stdlib (>= 3.6.7-1~) but 3.6.6-1~18.04 is to be installed
[09:38] <infinity>  python3 : Depends: python3.6 (>= 3.6.7-1~) but 3.6.6-1~18.04 is to be installed
[09:38] <infinity>  python3-minimal : PreDepends: python3.6-minimal (>= 3.6.7-1~) but 3.6.6-1~18.04 is to be installed
[09:38] <infinity> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[09:38] <infinity> Anyhow, I retriggered it with both py3.6 and py3-defaults together.
[09:39] <infinity> doko: Also, when you look at a history like http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/open-iscsi/bionic/amd64 it's a bit suspicious to say "please hint this, even though python3-defaults is the only thing that makes it go red".
[09:39] <infinity> doko: snapcraft also has python-related errors.
[09:40]  * infinity re-runs it with the double trigger too.
[09:41] <doko> ahh, not having python3 in testsuite's dependencies doesn't install it
[09:42] <infinity> doko: It's not about dependencies, it's about the trigger that causes the pin.
[09:42] <infinity> doko: Because your py3/py3-defaults deps are very tight right now, and you MUST upgrade both together, a pin that only pins one breaks miserably.
[09:43] <doko> but even python3 isn't updated for the testsuite test
[09:43] <infinity> Right, because the test was triggered by python3-defaults.
[09:44] <infinity> Thus py3-defaults is pinned to -proposed, everything else to release+updates.
[09:44] <infinity> And then it explodes a bit.
[09:51] <infinity> Laney: Okay, there's an archive.  Plenty of work yet to make it something we can upload to, but should be able to install from it.   Not even a little.
[12:01] <Laney> SO MANY PERL LIBRARIES
[12:01] <infinity> They take testing seriously.
[12:02] <infinity> Also helps that they have a very standardised test harness that allowed them to just automagically dep-8 the world.
[12:04] <Laney> Yep, they use autodep8
[12:04] <Laney> libj
[12:05]  * Laney will keep you updated at 4-minutely intervals
[12:05] <juliank> infinity: I've committed the distro info update for python-apt, let me know once I can/should upload it.
[12:05] <juliank> really gotta move that to distro-info-data this cycle
[12:06] <Laney> do it now and don't upload this one :P
[12:07] <juliank> Nah, it needs some code updates
[12:08] <juliank> Obviously, python-apt still needs to find the files, and they probably want to be in a different format for distro-info, as the current one is too verbose
[12:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: base-files (disco-proposed/main) [10.1ubuntu7 => 10.1ubuntu8] (core)
[12:08] <infinity> ^-- Do not accept, it won't build yet.
[12:11]  * infinity goes to do something else for an hour while he waits on the internet to push bits around.
[12:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: distro-info-data (disco-proposed/main) [0.38 => 0.38ubuntu1] (core)
[12:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: base-files (disco-proposed/main) [10.1ubuntu7 => 10.1ubuntu8] (core)
[12:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected base-files [source] (disco-proposed) [10.1ubuntu8]
[12:37] <ginggs> https://pics.me.me/you-wouldnt-steal-a-baby-16313564.png
[12:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: vim (disco-proposed/main) [2:8.0.1766-1ubuntu1 => 2:8.1.0320-1ubuntu1] (core)
[13:09] <doko> update_excuses is currently not updated
[13:12] <infinity> That's very intentional.
[13:15] <doko> even for released series?
[13:18] <infinity> Yes, it's all from the same cronjob which, for safety, is entirely disabled while we violently muck about in the source.
[13:18] <infinity> It'll be back soon.
[13:28] <tumbleweed> infinity: hi. I see we have a name
[13:28] <infinity> tumbleweed: Yeah.
[13:28] <infinity> tumbleweed: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/395317035/distro-info-data_0.38_0.38ubuntu1.diff.gz
[13:29] <tumbleweed> I'll upload that to sid
[13:29] <infinity> Ta,
[13:36] <tumbleweed> uploaded. SRU bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/distro-info-data/+bug/1800656
[13:36] <tumbleweed> I'll prepare those in a bit
[13:57] <juliank> I'll just go ahead with the python-apt data change now, accept it when it's ready
[13:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-apt (disco-proposed/main) [1.7.0 => 1.8.0~alpha0~ubuntu1] (core)
[13:59] <juliank> ^ there it is
[14:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: distro-info-data (trusty-proposed/main) [0.18ubuntu0.9 => 0.18ubuntu0.10] (core)
[14:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: distro-info-data (bionic-proposed/main) [0.37ubuntu0.1 => 0.37ubuntu0.2] (core)
[14:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: distro-info-data (xenial-proposed/main) [0.28ubuntu0.8 => 0.28ubuntu0.9] (core)
[14:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: distro-info-data (cosmic-proposed/main) [0.38 => 0.38ubuntu0.1] (core)
[14:13] <doko> juliank: I'm rejecting that for now. starting with the python3 transition first
[14:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected python-apt [source] (disco-proposed) [1.8.0~alpha0~ubuntu1]
[14:17] <juliank> doko: Well, I'd have gotten the data update out of the way first, so things needing aptsources work correctly
[14:24] <infinity> Laney: How's autopkgtest?
[14:24] <tsimonq2> infinity: Poking wiki things, fwiw.
[14:24] <Laney> py
[14:26]  * Laney updates the config in the meantime
[14:27] <Laney> Could probably shove a test run through to see if it's working
[14:27] <Laney> We need a britney.conf.ubuntu.disco for that
[14:28] <infinity> Did I miss that?  Oh, indeed I did.
[14:28] <infinity> I copied data, didn't update britney itself.
[14:28]  * infinity fixes.
[14:28] <Laney> I've recently ended up doing that because I wanted to test precisely this
[14:28] <Laney> but cool
[14:30] <infinity> Laney: b1 updated... And I always miss b2 because the configs aren't in VCS.
[14:31] <Laney> that's the one with the amqp credentials in it
[14:31] <infinity> b2 configs made.
[14:32] <Laney> mwah
[14:32] <infinity> Which I'll note could be symlinks, since they don't seem to actually have the codename in them.
[14:32] <infinity> Oh, but EMAIL_ENABLE changes.
[14:32]  * infinity fixes.
[14:32] <Laney> I think the email thing gets disabled for non-devel releases
[14:32] <Laney> Hurp
[14:36]  * Laney slaps py*
[14:47] <infinity> doko: Other parts of the world need that python-apt to function, we'll have to take it before the transition, not after.
[14:47] <infinity> (I'll accept from rejected once autopkgtest and britney are turned on)
[14:48] <Laney> r-b
[14:49] <infinity> r... b?
[14:50] <Laney> r-bioc-lotsofstuff
[14:50] <infinity> Ahh.
[14:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted distro-info-data [source] (trusty-proposed) [0.18ubuntu0.10]
[14:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted distro-info-data [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.28ubuntu0.9]
[14:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted distro-info-data [source] (bionic-proposed) [0.37ubuntu0.2]
[15:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted distro-info-data [source] (cosmic-proposed) [0.38ubuntu0.1]
[15:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ppx-deriving-yojson [s390x] (disco-proposed/universe) [3.1-3] (no packageset)
[15:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ppx-deriving-yojson [s390x] (disco-proposed) [3.1-3]
[15:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python3.7 (disco-proposed/main) [3.7.1-1~18.10 => 3.7.1-1~18.10] (ubuntu-desktop) (sync)
[15:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: binutils (disco-proposed/main) [2.31.1-6ubuntu1 => 2.31.1-7ubuntu1] (core) (sync)
[15:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gcc-8 (disco-proposed/main) [8.2.0-7ubuntu1 => 8.2.0-9ubuntu1] (core)
[15:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: debootstrap (disco-proposed/main) [1.0.108ubuntu1 => 1.0.108ubuntu2] (core)
[15:53] <seb128> SRU team, could someone look at the bionic queue? it has quite some backlog
[16:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: hhvm [ppc64el] (disco-proposed/universe) [3.24.7+dfsg-2ubuntu5] (no packageset)
[16:29] <LocutusOfBorg> hhvm should probably die ^^
[16:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gcc-7 (disco-proposed/main) [7.3.0-29ubuntu1 => 7.3.0-30ubuntu1] (core)
[16:30] <infinity> ... why did someone retry the cosmic build just now?
[16:32] <vorlon> cosmic build of what?
[16:33] <infinity> hhvm.
[16:33] <vorlon> ah
[16:33] <infinity> I'm guessing someone noticed the disco build worked and decided to retry the cosmic one.
[16:33] <infinity> Which I'll just be deleting anyway.
[16:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted base-files [source] (disco-proposed) [10.1ubuntu8]
[16:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted distro-info-data [source] (disco-proposed) [0.38ubuntu1]
[16:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debootstrap [source] (disco-proposed) [1.0.108ubuntu2]
[16:41] <LocutusOfBorg> soooooo now britney runs again?
[16:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ceph [source] (xenial-proposed) [10.2.11-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[16:41] <LocutusOfBorg> good luck :)
[16:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected neutron [source] (xenial-proposed) [2:11.0.5-0ubuntu1~cloud1]
[16:47] <LocutusOfBorg> question: is it possible to approve the unapproved virtualbox* packages in cosmic to disco?
[16:48] <vorlon> no
[16:48] <vorlon> it's in the cosmic queue, it can be accepted or rejected into cosmic
[16:48] <LocutusOfBorg> so, please reject everything vbox* in cosmic :)
[16:48] <vorlon> ok
[16:48] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks!
[16:49] <LocutusOfBorg> I'll reupload then in some days or before if I can...
[16:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected virtualbox-hwe [source] (cosmic-proposed) [5.2.20-dfsg-3ubuntu18.10.1]
[16:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected virtualbox [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [5.2.20-dfsg-3]
[16:52] <infinity> Laney: What are we up to? :)
[16:52] <Laney> Thinking about bacon
[16:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2 [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.19]
[16:53] <Laney> the web frontend is slurping down the results now
[16:53] <Laney> autopkgtest.u.c should know about disco shortly
[16:53] <infinity> \o/
[16:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2-signed [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.66.19]
[16:57] <Laney> britney should be OK without the website being current
[16:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected python3.7 [sync] (disco-proposed) [3.7.1-1~18.10]
[16:59] <infinity> doko: That binutils is going to need a sourceful upload, you can't copy with binaries from that PPA to primary.
[17:00] <doko> infinity: it's built cleanly
[17:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected binutils [sync] (disco-proposed) [2.31.1-7ubuntu1]
[17:00] <infinity> doko: In a virt PPA that builds with different settings than the primary archive.
[17:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted vim [source] (disco-proposed) [2:8.1.0320-1ubuntu1]
[17:02] <LocutusOfBorg> can I upload virtualbox now, or should I wait? I would like to have a fixed package for disco so people can use it (and kernel folks can grab the updated kernel modules9
[17:02] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: If you upload, it won't be accepted, so if your goal is getting it built ASAP, you're out of luck for a bit.
[17:03] <infinity> Laney: So, the theory is we can turn on archive reports and watch the world burn?
[17:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: binutils (disco-proposed/main) [2.31.1-6ubuntu1 => 2.31.1-7ubuntu1] (core)
[17:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: grub2 (xenial-proposed/main) [2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.18 => 2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.19] (core)
[17:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python3-defaults (disco-proposed/main) [3.6.7-1~18.10 => 3.7.1-1] (core) (sync)
[17:07] <Laney> infinity: I reckon so.
[17:07] <Laney> Some links might be busted, but we can live with that
[17:07] <infinity> Laney: Yep.
[17:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted binutils [source] (disco-proposed) [2.31.1-7ubuntu1]
[17:07]  * infinity crosses his fingers.
[17:09] <doko> are we good? then we should do gcc-8 as well
[17:10] <infinity> doko: I wasn't sure if you wanted to build gcc with your new binutils.  Leaving that up to you.
[17:10] <infinity> doko: I still have some maintenance to do, but we should be good for you to do toolchain stuff in parallel.
[17:10] <doko> no, not necessary
[17:11] <doko> infinity: and I'd like to do python3-defaults too, so that we don't run all the autopkg tests with 3.6 as the default again
[17:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gcc-7 [source] (disco-proposed) [7.3.0-30ubuntu1]
[17:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gcc-8 [source] (disco-proposed) [8.2.0-9ubuntu1]
[17:12] <infinity> doko: Up to you.  I'm staying clear.
[17:12] <doko> ok
[17:12] <sforshee> doko: that linux autopkg test failure looks like the keyctl command is missing, hopefully fixed now. I have triggered a re-run of the tests.
[17:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python3-defaults [sync] (disco-proposed) [3.7.1-1]
[17:13] <doko> sforshee: ta
[17:14] <doko> infinity: is update_excuses enabled again?
[17:15] <infinity> doko: It is.  We'll see how it looks in a bit.
[17:15] <infinity> And I need to remove most of the stuff from cosmic-proposed, once I have cosmic and disco to compare and make sure all the copies were successful.
[17:18] <doko> binutils build on s390x i n7min? that's fast ...
[17:18] <infinity> The last version was that fast too.
[17:18] <infinity> If only we were an s390x-only distro.
[17:19] <infinity> And then there's x86, clocking in at 7 hours...
[17:19] <infinity> Is there a testsuite involved there that's disabled on s390?
[17:21] <doko> no, but building all the cross packages
[17:21] <infinity> Yeah, that's what I just realised when I looked at the log.
[17:23] <xnox> make s390x builder build canadian cross packages?!
[17:23] <xnox> is there x86_64 crosstoolchain on s390x?
[17:23] <xnox> and then only run autopkgtests on x86_64
[17:23] <xnox> and then like use s390x to build all the things.
[17:23] <doko> infinity, Laney: is the transition tracker enabled again?
[17:25] <Laney> looks like it
[17:27]  * Laney sees test requests coming in
[17:53] <infinity> Okay, things seem to be grinding away more or less correctly.
[17:54] <infinity> cosmic-proposed is cleaning out, base packages are unblocked for when they eventually build and pass tests.
[17:54] <infinity> I'm going to grab some sleep and revisit the state of things when I wake up.
[17:55] <infinity> Laney, vorlon: From my POV, everything through step 36 is done, except that we're obviously still frozen, still block-all source, and still not autosyncing.
[17:56] <infinity> I'll make ISO builds happen tonight.
[17:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python3-stdlib-extensions (disco-proposed/main) [3.6.7-1~18.10 => 3.7.1-1] (core) (sync)
[17:57] <infinity> vorlon: I think step 37 (db@limequat) is a thing that needs to happen before we can abuse the tracker?  Would be nice to have that done before I wake up.
[17:58] <Laney> 37 is particularly cryptic
[17:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python3-stdlib-extensions [sync] (disco-proposed) [3.7.1-1]
[17:58] <infinity> It could use some verbosity. ;)
[17:58] <infinity> But I *think* that's the iso tracker DB.
[17:58] <infinity> I think.
[17:58] <doko> infinity: the release block is still enabled?
[17:58] <infinity> doko: It is for now, yeah.  I unblocked a few things, though.
[17:59] <Laney> I did 42 49
[17:59] <infinity> doko: In practice, it won't matter much for a while, since autopkgtest will take hours to catch up with what you're about to do to it.
[17:59] <Laney> 49 should probably move up
[17:59] <Laney> (autopkgtest)
[17:59] <doko> ok
[17:59] <infinity> Laney: Feel free to reorder.  It should probably happen right after series init, which is when I usually ask for it. :)
[18:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: grub2 (xenial-proposed/main) [2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.19 => 2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.19] (core)
[18:00]  * infinity goes to find a nap so he can be vaguely alive for his evening plans.
[18:01] <infinity> doko: If the plan is to stay frozen for the python transition, let's make sure it's a quick one, and let me know when we're ready to thaw.
[18:02] <Laney> Done
[18:02] <Laney> Lemme know tomorrow if there are any steps left over that I can help on
[18:02]  * Laney is off too
[18:02] <vorlon> infinity, Laney: yes, it's the iso tracker db
[18:02] <Laney> ah
[18:03] <vorlon> and everything here is terrible
[18:03]  * Laney updated the page, at least
[18:03] <Laney> bye fo realz
[18:06] <vorlon> infinity, Laney: limequat done
[18:08] <infinity> vorlon: Excellent.  That takes us back to 39, and yet again asking if we can, or should (or did?) kill popcon. :P
[18:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: 28 entries have been added, updated or disabled
[18:09] <infinity> vorlon: If you want to handle any of the stragglers from 39 on, be my guest.  Just make a note of what's outstanding and vomit it at me when you EOD.
[18:09] <infinity> vorlon: I think Brian submitted an MP for 41.
[18:10] <vorlon> at the moment popcon is Priority: standard
[18:10] <vorlon> infinity: ack. I have some other stuff to tend to at the moment but I'll let you know if I've made any progress by EOD
[18:10]  * infinity goes to sleep for realzies.
[18:10] <infinity> vorlon: No pressure, nothing past 40ish is critical path.
[18:11] <infinity> Well, except 49, which should also be moved up, and Laney already did.
[18:11] <doko> infinity: yes, it should stay frozen. mwhudson and me are doing that one
[18:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: valgrind (disco-proposed/main) [1:3.13.0-2ubuntu6 => 1:3.14.0-0ubuntu1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[18:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: 2ping (disco-proposed/universe) [4.2-1 => 4.2-1build1] (no packageset)
[18:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: antlr (disco-proposed/universe) [2.7.7+dfsg-9.2build1 => 2.7.7+dfsg-9.2build2] (no packageset)
[18:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: bpfcc (disco-proposed/universe) [0.6.0-2 => 0.6.0-2build1] (no packageset)
[18:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: epoptes (disco-proposed/universe) [1.0.1-1 => 1.0.1-1build1] (edubuntu)
[18:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: facedetect (disco-proposed/universe) [0.1-2build1 => 0.1-2build2] (no packageset)
[18:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: openvswitch (disco-proposed/main) [2.10.0-0ubuntu2 => 2.10.0-0ubuntu3] (ubuntu-server)
[18:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-srp (disco-proposed/universe) [1.0.14-1build1 => 1.0.14-1build2] (no packageset)
[18:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: screen-resolution-extra (disco-proposed/main) [0.17.3build1 => 0.17.3build2] (ubuntu-desktop)
[18:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: botan (disco-proposed/universe) [2.6.0-3build1 => 2.6.0-3build2] (no packageset)
[18:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-omniorb (disco-proposed/universe) [4.2.2-0.2build1 => 4.2.2-0.2build2] (no packageset)
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[10:32] <lissyx> hello
[10:32] <lissyx> seb128, we have no other way to import a firefox profile than via firefox.launcher, right?
[10:33] <lissyx> oh nevermind
[10:34] <lissyx> I can probably rely on ~/snap/firefox_XXX/common/.mozilla/firefox/
[10:42] <seb128> lissyx, hey, right you can copy things there
[13:57] <lissyx> seb128, there's something ... weird
[13:57] <lissyx> seb128, Content snap command-chain for /snap/firefox/x1/gnome-platform/command-chain/desktop-launch not found: ensure slot is connected
[13:58] <lissyx> seb128, I am getting that while doing mozregression with a change to "fix connections"
[13:58] <seb128> hum, what do you mean by "fix connections"?
[13:59] <lissyx> https://prod.pastebin.prod.webservices.mozgcp.net/e6wzigCd/raw
[13:59] <lissyx> things like ['sudo', 'snap', 'connect', 'firefox_b73ef4c89:browser-sandbox', ':browser-support']
[13:59] <lissyx> now the thing is, "snap disconnect firefox_b73ef4c89:gnome-42-2204 gnome-42-2204:gnome-42-2204" followed by "snap connect firefox_b73ef4c89:gnome-42-2204 gnome-42-2204:gnome-42-2204" and it works
[14:00] <seb128> is the gnome platform correctly connected?
[14:00] <lissyx> seb128, see the paste, according to "snap connections" it says it is
[14:00] <seb128> sounds like a snapd issue :-(
[14:01] <lissyx> now the most fun thing is that I dont force a "snap connect" of GNOME (I was earlier and I thought it was messing up things)
[14:10] <lissyx> seb128, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/2043993
[14:10] -ubottu:#ubuntu-desktop- Launchpad bug 2043993 in snapd (Ubuntu) "snapd reports connections established but running does not work due to missing connection" [Undecided, New]
[16:04] <lissyx> seb128, I was on an old hacked snapd, but getting back to stable 2.60.4 does not help :(
[17:17] <seb128> lissyx, :-(
[17:19] <tjaalton> jbicha: hi, lp2039170 is waiting for verification


[00:53] <jrwren_> tru
[01:25] <Scary_Guy> I do wish it was a little more active, but I'm happy the days of constant posting with pages scrolling by at the rate of one a second are gone.  Made it so hard to focus.
[01:25] <Scary_Guy> Also, any favorite RSS feeds?  I just got into Newsboat.
[14:05] <jrwren_> I have a ton in feedly that i mostly ignore :)
[14:28] <cmaloney> yeah, I have a few but not sure if they're general interest


  If you ask nicely, maybe you can have a cup
[11:52] <inetpro> hello charl
[11:52] <charl> Maaz: coffee please
[11:52] <Maaz> charl: Sure
[11:52] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee please
[11:52] <Maaz> inetpro: Righto
[11:53] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[11:53] <Maaz> Kilos: Okay
[12:15] <charl> how how long is this coffee gonna take
[12:15] <Kilos> weird hey
[12:16] <charl> Maaz: is your coffee machine broken?
[12:16] <Maaz> charl: *blink*
[12:16] <charl> Maaz forgot to buy coffee yesterday and is too afraid to admit it :P
[12:16] <Maaz> charl: One learns a new thing every day
[12:16] <Kilos> haha
[12:16] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[12:16] <Maaz> Kilos: There's already a pot on, and it's all reserved
[12:16] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[12:16] <Maaz> Kilos: Sorry, there aren't any more cups left
[12:17] <charl> lol
[12:17] <Kilos> hmm...
[12:17] <charl> Maaz: stop being so difficult or i will infect you with malware :P
[12:17] <Maaz> charl: Huh?
[12:20] <Kilos> weird he remembers theres a pot on but it dont boil
[12:22] <Kilos> Maaz, check the coffee pot
[12:22] <Maaz> Oh my , have we got a problem?
[12:27] <Kilos> QA, coffee on
[12:27]  * QA puts the kettle on
[12:31] <QA> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[12:31] <Kilos> QA, thanks love
[12:32] <QA> Kilos: np
[12:32] <charl> that went a lot quicker :)
[12:34] <charl> Maaz has borked bits
[12:34] <charl> and some bitrot
[12:37] <Kilos> tumbleweed, whats the odds on upgrading maaz?
[12:38] <charl> has that twitter thing been fixed yet?
[12:38] <Kilos> i dunno . ive removed it from my pidgin
[12:41] <Kilos> but birdie works
[12:48] <plustwo> afternoon all
[12:51] <charl> hi plustwo
[12:52] <mazal> Bye everyone
[12:52] <mazal> Enjoy the evening
[13:00] <Vince-0> aarg! gnome/mate-screensaver fails on password to ldap
[15:39] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za
[15:52] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[16:31] <Kilos> hi Cantide
[16:31] <Cantide> hello '-';
[18:24] <Kilos> inetpro, hele tyd lyk my konneksie so UMTS (ETSI 27.007: "UTRAN"
[18:24] <inetpro> ih
[18:25] <inetpro> en wat beteken dit nogal oom?
[18:25] <Kilos> beter as hsdpa
[18:25] <inetpro> en ETSI?
[18:25] <Kilos> wel jy kry gprs-edge- hsdpa -utms
[18:25] <inetpro> en UTRAN?
[18:26] <Kilos> weet nie
[18:26] <inetpro> UTRAN (short for "Universal Terrestrial Radio Access Network")
[18:27] <Kilos> ah ty
[18:27] <inetpro> a collective term for the Node B's and Radio Network Controllers (RNCs) which make up the UMTS radio access network.
[18:27] <Kilos> oh ya sorry umts
[18:28] <inetpro> UMTS = Universal Mobile Telecommunications System
[18:28] <Kilos> almal dooi hier vanaand
[18:29] <inetpro> UMTS supports maximum theoretical data transfer rates of 42 Mbit/s when HSPA+ is implemented in the network
[18:30] <Kilos> gonna watch under the dome then try stay awake and get android emulator goodie after 11pm
[18:30] <inetpro> under the dome?
[18:30] <Kilos> what does that mean
[18:30] <Kilos> new series on mnet
[18:30] <Kilos> 2nd episode
[18:31] <inetpro> hmm... ok
[18:31] <inetpro> enjoy
[18:31] <Kilos> wanna see if the aliens arrive
[18:31] <Kilos> ty
[18:50] <inetpro> nice, eventually got PostgreSQL to listen only on IPv4
[18:55] <Kilos> whats sql, i got a thick study book here im even scared to open the cover of
[18:56] <Kilos> mastering sql by Martin Gruber
[20:58] <Kilos> why arent you all asleep?
[20:59] <Trixar_za> I just came from the WWE show in GrandWest
[20:59] <Trixar_za> Somehow I feel amazingly manly now
[21:00] <Kilos> hehe
[21:01] <Squirm> evening
[21:01] <Kilos> yo Squirm
[21:01] <Squirm> Trixar_za: manly after watching WWE?
[21:01] <Squirm> lol
[21:01] <Squirm> hmm, I suppose it could be true. I guess they're more woman
[21:01] <Kilos> what a puton act that is
[21:01] <Kilos> they should all gets oscars
[21:02] <Trixar_za> Yeah, but there was a Divas match too
[21:02] <Trixar_za> I was pretty happy
[21:03] <Trixar_za> But like I told you before, I could be dressed in a pink dress and still be more manly than the Blue Bulls
[21:03] <Trixar_za> So it doesn't take much
[21:23] <Kilos> hehe
[22:04] <Kilos> fp
[22:15] <Kilos> morning all, see you later


[21:13] <sladen> mhall119: evening!
[21:21] <mcbaine1> sladen, hi there .. aloha ...
[21:27] <sladen> mcbaine1: hola too!
[22:29] <mcbaine1> sladen:: what part of ubuntu-design are you into atmo.??
[22:34] <sladen> mcbaine1: just arrived in Budapest for a Canonical sprint
[22:35] <sladen> mcbaine1: work starts at 9am, sharp
[22:35] <mhall119> sladen: how cold is it there?
[22:35] <sladen> mcbaine1: so it was mainly people being sociable this evening
[22:35] <mcbaine1> k , is that pre-arranged  .. how did you arrive there ??
[22:35] <sladen> not cold enough!  I was hoping for snow.  Missed the snow in New York by a week, then in Berlin by a week, and no snow here in Budapest either!
[22:36] <sladen> good the overnight sleeper train from Berlin
[22:36] <sladen> nice and efficient and stress free
[22:36] <mcbaine1> and your project-purpose is ... ??
[22:36] <mhall119> sladen: probably not much hope for snow in oakland in may either
[22:38] <sladen> mcbaine1: I'm a techie for the designers.  Today I was working on packaging a new version of something else in Ubuntu
[22:38] <sladen> mcbaine1: so I don't really get to design things per-se


[12:39] <bluesabre> happy weekend everyone :)
[12:40] <elfy> hey bluesabre - just rebooting, but earlier I did a bit of fiddling with that QA pad from yesterday - big lump at the bottom - you figure quite a bit in it ;)
[12:40] <elfy> brb
[12:40] <bluesabre> oh boy
[12:46] <knome> elfy, commented
[12:46] <elfy> saw
[12:46] <knome> sorry for shouting the same thing over and over, but i think there's some potential there we haven't used to its full capacity
[12:47] <knome> because i can easily commit to using a PPA on my production machine since i know that if it miserably fails at a critical moment, i can just turn it off to get on with my work
[12:47] <elfy> tbh some/many ordinary users can't risk production machine either - hence " in some way "
[12:48] <knome> yes, but it's evident that using a staging PPA isn't really the same as running the dev version :)
[12:48] <elfy> but my basic assumption is that if someone is 'developing' foo for bar - then they must be looking at how it looks in bar - or guessing :p
[12:48] <knome> yep
[12:48] <knome> that's true
[12:48] <knome> that sounds more like a (given) process requirement for developers
[12:49] <elfy> but yes I totally agree that we could do more with the PPA idea we started to look at earlier in this cycle
[12:49] <knome> but that only covers some of the team, not all of us are actually developing stuff (where it actually matters what the version is)
[12:49] <elfy> I am still completely confused as to which ones are which - so I just don't
[12:49] <knome> eg. working on the docs definitely does not require running the dev version :D
[12:50] <elfy> knome: yea I know
[12:50] <elfy> I haven't said "Assumption being that (at least some of) xubuntu-team is using the dev version during the dev cycle."
[12:50] <knome> bluesabre, when are you going to land the updated PPA descriptions?
[12:51] <bluesabre> I thought I did...
[12:51] <knome> looks like you didn't
[12:51] <knome> :)
[12:51] <bluesabre> woops
[12:51] <elfy> I'd at least hope that people are looking at what they're putting their name too in vm at some point
[12:51] <bluesabre> have the link to the pad?
[12:51] <knome> bluesabre, no, but i can dig it up :P
[12:51] <bluesabre> I can dig it up too :)
[12:51] <elfy> http://pad.ubuntu.com/vQ8LL4MVaW
[12:51]  * elfy did dig it up :p
[12:51] <bluesabre> lightning
[12:52] <elfy> bluesabre: lol - more likely that I got so lost with pads - I bookmark them and give them sensible names :)
[12:52] <knome> yep
[12:52] <knome> that's why you should give them sensible names when creating them :P
[12:53] <elfy> :)
[12:53]  * bluesabre doesn't know how to rename a pad
[12:53] <knome> bluesabre, you don't rename
[12:53] <knome> bluesabre, just go to http://pad.ubuntu.com/new-pad-name
[12:53] <knome> and it asks if you want to create that
[12:53] <bluesabre> didn't know that
[12:53] <bluesabre> now I do
[12:53] <bluesabre> :)
[12:53] <knome> good
[12:53] <elfy> http://pad.ubuntu.com/callmewhatyouwill
[12:53] <knome> elfy, waayy too slow :P
[12:54] <elfy> well - just letting people catch up with the lightning :D
[12:54] <knome> heh
[12:55] <bluesabre> updated
[12:55] <knome> great
[12:55]  * knome considers if we should add those descriptions to the processses wiki page too
[12:56] <elfy> well - it would be nice to try and tie all these ends together
[12:56] <knome> yep
[12:56] <knome> as it is, there's no official/final blessing that this is the way we intend to use these PPA's
[12:56] <knome> but unofficially, that's how they have been used
[13:43] <bluesabre> hey ochosi
[13:44] <elfy> got sidetracked doing forumy things
[13:45] <elfy> I think perhaps the PPAs and how we're going to use them could be documented
[13:45] <knome> bluesabre, merge done
[13:45] <bluesabre> thanks knome
[13:51] <ochosi> hey bluesabre
[13:52] <elfy> hi ochosi
[13:52] <ochosi> hey elfy
[13:55] <sidi> hey olli_
[13:55] <bluesabre> whats up?
[13:55]  * sidi waves at knome, bluesabre, ochosi and the rest of the universe.
[13:55] <bluesabre> hey sidi!
[13:56] <sidi> olli_, knome told me you were a mir dev? mind if i ask you how you guys are planning to do security on privileged interfaces in mir?
[14:07] <ochosi> bluesabre: not too much, just took an hour to clean my ibm model m keyboard
[14:07] <ochosi> yuck, keyboard can become really disgusting
[14:08] <bluesabre> ew
[14:08] <bluesabre> anybody still running trusty?
[14:08] <bluesabre> need SRU verification, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mugshot/+bug/1374802
[14:22] <jjfrv8> bluesabre, verified ^
[14:22] <bluesabre> jjfrv8: you get a cookie.
[14:22] <bluesabre> :D
[14:22] <jjfrv8> :)
[16:29] <bluesabre> brainwash_: patches updated here: https://launchpad.net/~bluesabre/+archive/ubuntu/lp1320560
[16:29] <bluesabre> xfswitch-plugin and xfce4-panel now support dm-tool or gdmflexiserver
[16:29] <bluesabre> with a preference for dm-tool
[16:30] <bluesabre> whisker and xscreensaver are significantly more difficult to support both
[16:30] <bluesabre> Unit193 too ^
[18:28] <Unit193> You looked into it, good enough for me.
[19:08] <Noskcaj> bluesabre, Were you preparing the xfce4-weather-plugin SRU or should i?
[19:55] <bluesabre> Noskcaj: still around?
[19:55] <Noskcaj> yeah
[19:55] <bluesabre> I can go ahead and do it now for trusty
[19:55] <Noskcaj> ty
[19:56] <bluesabre> we'll have to do it for precise too, will try to also get to that
[20:44] <bluesabre> hm, precise might not actually need it, uses a different api
[20:44]  * bluesabre downloads precise image
[20:44] <skellat> bluesabre: Make sure you close out the bug that opened up earlier for Trusty on the weather plugin
[20:45] <bluesabre> skellat, a new one?
[20:45] <bluesabre> checking
[20:45] <skellat> Yeah, it was a bug today
[20:45] <bluesabre> ah
[20:46] <bluesabre> marking as a dupe
[20:46]  * skellat is literally and figuratively "cleaning house"
[20:46] <bluesabre> :)
[20:47]  * bluesabre just finished eating 1 lb of pineapple
[20:49] <skellat> What are we looking at for QA changes going forward?
[20:49] <knome> skellat, getting more tests and more out of the testing we do.
[20:50] <skellat> Optimizing our allocation and expediture of human capital then?
[20:51] <bluesabre> mostly, still not convinced that Unit193 is not a well-designed bot
[20:52] <skellat> Okay
[20:52] <Unit193> Try harder.
[20:52] <skellat> I'm low on non-production non-ARM hardware
[20:53]  * bluesabre notes that skellat can test builds on ARM
[20:54] <skellat> I don't think Alan Bell ever got that archive recompilation started for Raspberry Pi, though.  That and OMAP stuff like the BeagleBoard-xM went EOL in favor of the Sitara processor in the BeagleBone Black.
[20:54] <skellat> 14.10 has been working surprisingly well on my amd64 laptop
[23:28] <drc> huh..known problem with an image file and the default app?  New 14.10 install, jpg's start opening with Firefox...I changed default to imagemagick (just to test), now can't change the default.  Even though the "Open With" says Restretto, double clicking continues to open with Imagemagick.


[05:06] <cdunlap> I have a question for anyone listening
[05:07] <cdunlap> I just fixed a bug in xine-lib but I am not sure what app uses it to test it.  The fix was just misspelled words.
[05:07] <cdunlap> any idea how I can test it?
[05:07] <micahg> cdunlap: gxine?
[05:08] <cdunlap> I will install it and see.  Thanks Micahg
[05:28] <cdunlap> actually, that isn't helping because when I try to build the package it fails because the dependencies aren't installed
[05:28] <cdunlap> back to google...
[05:37] <micahg> cdunlap: huh?
[05:37] <cdunlap> I am kinda new to this bug fixing fun
[05:39] <micahg> cdunlap: which package are you trying to build?
[05:40] <cdunlap> I fixed a couple spelling errors in xine-lib and I was going through the steps and one of them is to do the pbuilder-dist command and it continually fails
[05:41] <micahg> cdunlap: can you pastebin the error?
[05:45] <cdunlap>     one sec
[05:47] <cdunlap> http://pastebin.com/HwFZ8k0Y
[05:47] <cdunlap> Then I get this and it errors out:
[05:48] <cdunlap> Sorry.  I get this and then it drops out:
[05:48] <cdunlap> http://pastebin.com/eA8LwtEW
[05:49] <micahg> cdunlap: seems like you need an update
[05:49] <micahg> pbuilder-dist oneiric update?
[05:49] <cdunlap> I can try it, can't hurt I gues
[06:04] <cdunlap> micahg: I think that might have done the trick
[06:04] <cdunlap> thanks for the help
[06:05] <micahg> cdunlap: you're welcome, please let us know if you need help getting the fix into Ubuntu if it works
[17:03] <ScottSanbar> QUESTION: when running debuild for the first time in the PackagingGuide wiki, it is searching for a tar.gz starting with PACKAGE, not hello.  Also, I get the following error later:  dpkg-source: error source package name PACKAGE contains illegal character P
[17:04] <and`> ScottSanbar: it should look for an .orig.tar.gz, then you should make sure your changelog/control files are correctly filed with the right details about package's name
[17:05] <and`> which is 'hello' in this specific case.
[17:08] <ScottSanbar> and: I believe the debain/control file is correct - it looks correct, and I copied its entire contentws into it from the tutorial contents
[17:08] <and`> ScottSanbar: paste me your changelog file then on a pastebin :)
[17:08] <ScottSanbar> and:  can you tell me about pastebin?
 thanks - did not change changelog package name from PACKAGE to hello ...
[17:10] <and`> ScottSanbar: :)
[17:10] <and`> glad it worked
[17:12] <ScottSanbar> and:  where would I find out about pastebin? Sounds cool
[17:12] <and`> ScottSanbar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ for example :)
[17:12] <and`> just paste your files there and post your link on the channel to avoid spam :)
[17:16] <ScottSanbar> and:  thanks, already tried it, now undertand - cool!
[17:17] <and`> ScottSanbar: feel free to ping me if you'll need help, but ping me the right way:) (and --> and`)
[17:24] <ScottSanbar> and'  sorry, I am partially blind.  Did I get it right this time?
[17:24] <ScottSanbar> and': sorry, I am partially blind.  Did I get it right this time?
[17:26] <ScottSanbar> and`: I think I got it now.  Thanks.
[17:29] <and`> ScottSanbar: yup :)
[17:32] <ScottSanbar> and~:  may I ask why you include the ` in your name?  Scripting?  sed?  gawk?  all the above?
[17:33] <ScottSanbar> and`:  whoops, sorry - used shift!
[17:36] <and`> ScottSanbar: I was used to use 'and' as nickname a few months ago (it's my Debian UID), but as you may understand the word 'and' is used pretty much everywhere, I then changed it to something similar, but at least I don't get hilighted when there's no need to :)
[19:37] <alkisg> Hi, I want to add i18n (.po) to a dh-helper/python -based package of mine, could someone suggest me a similar package to look at his debian/rules?
[19:38] <alkisg> *its
[19:55] <micahg> cjwatson: I was going to forward your libav patch for gnash, which e-mail address should I use for you canonical.com or ubuntu.com?
[21:11] <cjwatson> micahg: preferably @ubuntu.com; thanks
[21:11] <micahg> cjwatson: ok, will do
[21:46] <ScottSanbar> Question:  my package installed orphaned man pages.  How can I get rid of them?
[21:48] <ScottSanbar> and`: can you answer a question?
[23:00] <ScottSanbar> Question:  I successfully got rid of the man page references using sudo mandb. however, when I install my package, it the name of the package I used as an example to start from, not my current package name, in the man page and in the docs.  Any ideas?
[23:02] <ScottSanbar> question:  I have changed all references throughout the directory infrastrucure for my package/project from hello (the original package name) to helloworld, but still find Makefile and Makefil.in after ./configure that contain hello, not helloworld, and grepping like man shows all references to hello changed to helloworld in all files???


[13:14] <mrgoodcat> morning
[13:20] <rick_h> morning
[13:21] <mrgoodcat> hows it going?
[13:23] <cmaloney> Good morning.
[13:23] <cmaloney> So far it's OK
[13:32] <jrwren> Good Morning.
[13:34] <jrwren> ugh... https://github.com/mysql/mysql-connector-j/pull/25  "I confirm the code being submitted is offered under the terms of the OCA, and that I am authorized to contribute it."   so sad
[13:35]  * rick_h whistles dixie
[13:41] <cmaloney> Oracle Contributor Agreement?
[13:41] <rick_h> jrwren: ok, your reply to greg-g gets the award for most disturbing morning tweet
[13:41] <cmaloney> or Orally Consenting Adults
[13:41] <rick_h> cmaloney: yea
[13:41] <cmaloney> rick_h: Which one?  It would be nice to have the 9 after the first hidden by default
[13:49] <cmaloney> where you start into a tweet-storm
[13:49] <cmaloney> but I'm also seeing folks start off something like "I'm going to talk a little about X 1/"
[13:49] <cmaloney> at which point it's premedidated
[13:50] <mrgoodcat> that's what i'm talking about
[13:50] <mrgoodcat> and a client would take 1/, 2/, 3/... n/ and batch them into a single view collapsed by default
[13:51] <jrwren> rick_h: lol. I love politics with greg-g :)
[13:51] <cmaloney> I'd rather write a bot that sees 1/ and responds with "please write a blog post"
[13:51] <cmaloney> but mrgoodcat's idea is less confrontational
[13:52] <rick_h> well now I need a new client?
[13:52] <rick_h> that seems a bit less optimal
[13:52] <rick_h> "Oh, you wrote something long...let me open goodcatwitter
[13:52] <cmaloney> either that or we get out the virtual spankings
[13:52] <jrwren> turns the story into an image with all the text. posts the image to twitter.
[13:52] <jrwren> because.. TWITTER!
[13:53] <cmaloney> That screencapping is to prevent folks from deleting stuff
[13:53] <cmaloney> but yeah, that's really annoying
[13:53] <cmaloney> It's the Twitter equivalent of smacking a bad pooch with a newspaper
[15:02] <notlikethesoup> morning
[15:44] <greg-g> jrwren: is that his book that people were worried would kill his campaign if he won the primary?
[15:46] <jrwren> its an article he wrote in 1972
[15:47] <greg-g> link? I never read it :)
[15:47] <jrwren> greg-g: http://www.motherjones.com/wp-content/uploads/Man_and_Woman_0.jpg
[17:08] <greg-g> jrwren: That's a really weird article
[17:09] <jrwren> greg-g: it was '72. he was young.
[17:10] <greg-g> he was 31
[17:10] <greg-g> he's old now, remember :)
[17:11] <jrwren> old enough to know better :(   young enough to be stupid.
[17:12] <greg-g> that's been me for the last decade
[17:12] <greg-g> and will probably be me until I die :)
[17:12] <greg-g> but it'll change to "old enough to know better, but just stupid"
[17:24] <cmaloney> That's my epitaph right there
[17:54] <rick_h> cmaloney: CHC tonight?
[17:55] <cmaloney> Yep
[17:56]  * rick_h might try to get down there after the boy's soccer game
[17:56] <cmaloney> Oh cool!
[18:08] <_stink_> where are you folks doing CHC these days
[18:25] <rick_h> it's still bean and leaf in RO right?
[18:25]  * rick_h figures that's good to make sure of before traveling down
[18:36] <cmaloney> Yeah, that's where it's at
[18:36] <cmaloney> https://www.meetup.com/preview/Coffee-House-Coders-Royal-Oak/events/243966101


[00:14] <bluesabre> release team, anybody interested in ack'ing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/catfish/+bug/1844464?  (xubuntu, budgie, studio all A-OK) If so, I can trigger a sync from unstable
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[07:04] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: cheers :)
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[08:18] <cking> hi there, thermald for bionic has been stuck in -proposed "due to block request by freeze" https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thermald/1.7.0-5ubuntu5 - can this be promoted sometime soon?
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[08:24] <Laney> cking: that's misleading - the real status of the SRU is what is shown on https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html
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[08:26] <cking> Laney, now I'm more confused :-/  - so is it chugging through the system and will be released sometime? (how can I tell?)
[08:28] <infinity> cking: Based on pending-sru, it has a metric whackton of bugs that haven't been verified.
[08:28] <infinity> cking: green good, blue bad.
[08:30] <cking> infinity, ah, the blue ones are historical bugs that have already been verified in the past - i screwed up because  I accidentally uploaded the package with the entire old history.
[08:34] <infinity> cking: Ah-ha.
[08:34] <infinity> cking: Released.
[08:34] <cking> infinity, thanks, \o/
[08:37] <infinity> cking: I note on the bug that the task is still open for the devel series.  Is that a paperwork bug on your part, or a missing upload?
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[09:07] <bluesabre> infinity: thanks a bunch!
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[11:48] <vorlon> Laney, juliank: https://code.launchpad.net/~ddstreet/autopkgtest-cloud/+git/autopkgtest-cloud/+merge/369620
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[12:59] <LocutusOfBorg> [14:38:46] <LocutusOfBorg> ruby-gnome can't migrate because of ruby-gnome2 old package, but ruby-gnome replaces ruby-gnome2...
[12:59] <LocutusOfBorg> [14:39:02] <LocutusOfBorg> so removing src:ruby-gnome2 (transitional package) will make everybody happy
[12:59] <LocutusOfBorg> [14:39:40] <LocutusOfBorg> is this possible?
[12:59] <LocutusOfBorg> everyday I look at ruby-gnome sadness
[12:59] <LocutusOfBorg> and everyday I forget why it doesn't build
[12:59] <LocutusOfBorg> can any AA please fix it?
[13:02] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: I thought seb128 said he was taking care of it
[13:02] <vorlon> seb128: ^^ ping
[13:03] <seb128> vorlon, LocutusOfBorg, ruby-gnome migrated
[13:03] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ruby-gnome
[13:03] <seb128> no?
[13:04] <vorlon> seb128: right, seems so, so you were only taking care of migrating ruby-gnome and not removing the ruby-gnome2 source?
[13:05] <seb128> vorlon, I was waiting for the migration to happen because it felt wrong to remove the binaries before that happened, they would have gone missing
[13:05] <vorlon> ack
[13:05] <seb128> doing now
[13:05] <seb128> thx for the reminder, I just got busy with other things here and didn't though it was urgent
[13:05] <vorlon> no urgency for me :)
[13:07] <LocutusOfBorg> yes, thanks! I admit I didn't check ruby-gnome, I had a tab open in my browser, with a build failure log of gnome2
[13:08] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks for fixing it twice then
[13:09] <seb128> LocutusOfBorg, vorlon, old name removed
[13:13] <LocutusOfBorg> do you think we can kick out unanimity, because of https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=939506 and see a transition finish?
[13:14] <LocutusOfBorg> second question, is it possible to cleanup NBS-proposed django-ajax-selects package?
[13:17] <LocutusOfBorg> seb128, I also can't find references of your command on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ruby-gnome2 page... does it take some more time?
[13:19] <seb128> LocutusOfBorg, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ruby-gnome2/+publishinghistory
[13:19] <seb128> see the top entry
[13:19] <LocutusOfBorg> Deleted 32 seconds ago by Sebastien Bacher
[13:19] <LocutusOfBorg> yes, so I just didn't wait too much :)
[13:19] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks!
[13:24] <seb128> np!
[13:25] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: removing unanimity has a knock-on effect of making pbgenomicconsensus build-deps unsatisfiable; I would not want to kick unanimity out to finish this transition before Debian had taken a decision that this is the right tradeoff
[13:27] <LocutusOfBorg> oh, I missed it because I did only search for -b unanimity, instead of -b  python-consensuscore2
[13:27] <LocutusOfBorg> makes sense, thanks
[13:28] <LocutusOfBorg> in any case autoremoval already started...
[13:28] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, I did upload a "little patch" for unanimity, if somebody has more c++ skill I think it can be fixed up, but I failed to parse the syntax of the failure
[13:28] <vorlon> fwiw -b src:unanimity
[13:29] <LocutusOfBorg> I stopped doing src:foo because sometimes it fails, but I don't remember when...
[13:29] <vorlon> also fwiw once it does get autoremoved it would show up on the new report https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/eoan/rcbuggy-problem-packages.html (h/t mwhudson)
[13:30] <LocutusOfBorg> I wasn't aware of such awesome page
[13:30] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks
[13:30] <vorlon> it's recent and not yet publicized
[13:30] <vorlon> mwhudson: ^^ do you want to announce that to ubuntu-release@lists?
[13:38] <LocutusOfBorg> doko, I'm trying to fix it up once more your gtk-d transition (ldc), but I think we should at some point kick armhf binaries out, same failure in Debian apparently?
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[15:03] <LocutusOfBorg> rapmap is now an amd64 only package... reverse-dependencies are amd64only too...
[15:03] <LocutusOfBorg> NBS cleanup please?
[15:06] <vorlon> Laney, juliank: is ./worker-config-production/worker-bos01.conf redundant obsoleted by worker-config-production/worker-bos01-ppc64el.conf and should be removed?
[15:06] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: done
[15:07] <Laney> think so
[15:07] <Laney> it's all obsolete in the new world order though
[15:07] <Laney> so don't sweat too much over it
[15:15] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks
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