[06:32] <Squirm> morning
[06:33] <superfly> morning Squirm
[06:49] <Squirm> hey there superfly
[06:50] <magespawn> good day Squirm, superfly
[08:01] <kilos> hi superfly and others
[08:01] <superfly> hi kilos
[08:02] <kilos> i got kubuntu and made a usb startup disk and booted from it. but oh so slow
[08:04] <kilos> installing from cd is much faster methinks but havent got a cd that can take 703m
[08:04] <kilos> grrr
[08:05] <Squirm> usb should be faster
[08:05] <Squirm> thus where SSD's came in
[08:07] <kilos> i dunno , even tried it in another port
[08:07] <kilos> but it is installing slowly anyway
[08:08] <superfly> kilos: installs are always slow
[08:08] <superfly> even Ubuntu
[08:09] <kilos> from cd it goes through the motions here much faster. can install ubuntu in 25 mins
[08:11] <Squirm> USB2 high-speed (480 Mbit/s)
[08:11] <Squirm> a 24x DVD drive is
[08:11] <Squirm> 265.92 Mbit/s
[08:12] <kilos> maybe i aint got high speed ports
[08:12] <kilos> but looks like its doing good
[08:12] <Squirm> my pc is 6 years old and I'd think it'd be high speed
[08:13] <Squirm> copies 150Mb is about 10s
[08:13] <kilos> im not sure of age on this one. its p4 but only ddr ram not ddr2
[08:13] <kilos> and one gig ram here
[08:14] <kilos> dunno if they make ddr in 1g cards
[08:14] <kilos> only 2 slots
[08:15] <Squirm> that should be fine
[08:16] <kilos> well unity worked on it
[08:16] <Squirm> were just comparing cdrom vs usb speeds
[08:16] <kilos> it seems to be doing ok
[08:16] <kilos> 89%
[08:16] <kilos> its in
[08:16] <kilos> tween 20 and 25 mins i think it was
[08:17] <kilos> so must been cheating in the background
[08:17] <kilos> hehe
[08:18] <kilos> first usb install
[08:19] <kilos> yay music
[08:19] <kilos> sound works
[08:20] <kilos> black screen?
[08:22] <kilos> can ctrl+alt+f2 but got no gui
[08:24] <kilos> the goose will be happy im trying kde
[08:26] <kilos> superfly, cant kubuntu afford a gui
[08:27] <kilos> hehe
[08:30] <superfly> kilos: try pressing alt+shift+f12
[08:32] <kilos> no change superfly
[08:32] <superfly> kilos: did you log in yet?
[08:33] <kilos> yes that went fine
[08:33] <superfly> so you logged in, then what?
[08:33] <kilos> after password it went black
[08:33] <kilos> tried again, same thing
[08:34] <superfly> black... hrm
[08:34] <superfly> and then you pressed alt+shift+f12 ?
[08:35] <kilos> first time yes the logged in that way and type sudo kdm start
[08:35] <kilos> back to prompt
[08:35] <kilos> f2 not f12
[08:35] <superfly> kilos: OK, hold on. Do you get a GUI login prompt, or a CLI prompt?
[08:35] <kilos> sorry i misread that
[08:35] <kilos> gui
[08:35] <superfly> then you logged in using the GUI, and got a black screen?
[08:36] <kilos> yessir
[08:36] <superfly> alright, when you get to the black screen, type alt+shift+f12 (yes, not F2, F12)
[08:37] <kilos> ya
[08:37] <kilos> it came
[08:37] <superfly> "it came"?
[08:38] <kilos> gui arrived now i can start looking for things
[08:38] <kilos> hehe
[08:38] <kilos> is it gonna need the f12 every time
[08:38] <superfly> ya, I thought so... your graphics card can't handle KDE's desktop effects
[08:38] <superfly> no, you can turn them off
[08:39] <superfly> kilos: what graphics card do you have?
[08:39] <kilos> nvidia
[08:39] <kilos> fx something
[08:39] <superfly> ah, and you don't have the proprietary drivers installed
[08:39] <kilos> havent nothing yet
[08:40] <kilos> i will do nvidi-current as soon as i got rsync of archives and update upgrade done
[08:40] <kilos> lucky i got 2 pcs
[08:41] <superfly> kilos: OK, for the moment we can turn them off. In your menu, go to the Applications tab, then click on Settings, and then click on System Settings
[08:43] <kilos> im there
[08:45] <superfly> right, click on "Desktop Effects"
[08:45] <superfly> Then, there's a check box on the first page you see that says, "Enable desktop effects at startup" - untick it.
[08:45] <kilos> im there
[08:46] <kilos> ah ty superfly
[08:47] <superfly> kilos: one other thing you can do - by default KDE likes you to click once to do things, and most folks are used to double-clicking, so we can switch it to double-click if you'd like
[08:48] <kilos> ok where superfly ?
[08:48] <kilos> back to them settings?
[08:49] <superfly> yes
[08:49] <kilos> trying to find terminal
[08:49] <superfly> then look for "Input Devices"
[08:49] <kilos> got it
[08:50] <superfly> then under the Mouse section, there's a section that talks about either single-click or double-click
[08:50] <superfly> kilos: the terminal is called Konsole
[08:50] <kilos> ah what makes for the one click?
[08:51] <kilos> got it ty
[08:56] <kilos> i spose if i can survive unity i can survive kde
[08:58] <kilos> maybe feed family eggs tonight. no time to make a meal
[08:59] <kilos> ok guys i steal modem here. see you from kde after updates
[08:59] <kilos> be good
[09:07] <kilos> aw superfly mobile broadband button grayed out
[09:08] <kilos> i go try see if it sees fone as modem
[09:12] <superfly> kilos: do you have KPPP installed?
[09:13] <superfly> Menu -> Applications -> Internet
[11:05] <Kilos> oh well, we be kdefied now
[11:06] <Kilos> toods chanserv
[11:12] <inetpro> ehlo Kilos, and all others
[11:13] <Kilos> Maaz: coffee on
[11:13]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[11:13] <Kilos> Maaz: hi
[11:13] <Maaz> Sup Kilos
[11:13] <Kilos> mm no sound here
[11:13] <Kilos> yet!!
[11:14] <Kilos> Maaz: hi
[11:14] <Maaz> Howzit Kilos
[11:14] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee please
[11:14] <Maaz> inetpro: Sure
[11:15] <Kilos> hi inetpro
[11:15] <Kilos> me quassel fied in kde
[11:15]  * inetpro wbb
[11:17] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za
[11:17] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and inetpro!
[11:17] <Kilos> Maaz: ty
[11:17] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[11:17] <Trixar_za> Hi Kilos
[11:18] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday
[11:24] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[14:22] <Kilos> hmm
[14:27] <not_found> alo uncle Kilos
[14:27] <Kilos> alo not_found hows you
[14:27] <Kilos> i be on kubuntu now
[14:28] <not_found> cool... Kubuntu 12.04|
[14:28] <not_found> ?
[14:28] <Kilos> yip
[14:28] <not_found> I be fine thanks
[14:28] <not_found> cool, KDE 4.8 is very cool
[14:28] <Kilos> installed twice. first time it didnt see the modem
[14:29] <Kilos> so did all updates upgrades via cell. so slow at 4kB/s
[14:30] <Kilos> this time it sees modem and goiung lekker
[14:30] <Kilos> going as well
[14:32] <not_found> http://youtu.be/8gFmFmgKvRM
[14:32] <Kilos> whats that not_found ?
[14:33] <not_found> some random SA music on youtube
[14:33] <Kilos> oh lol
[14:33] <Kilos> i dont do music online. data hog
[14:36] <Kilos> but no sound here on xchat yet or quassel
[14:36] <Kilos> grr
[14:36] <not_found> oh well
[14:36] <Kilos> hehe
[14:37] <Kilos> was hoping to be like the fly and say i dont have probs i use kubuntu
[14:43] <Kilos> yo Vince-0
[14:43] <Kilos> not_found, is gdebi a gnome tool? whats the kde one?
[14:45] <not_found> Kilos, I see there is gdebi-kde
[14:46] <not_found> I haven't tried it but seems to be gdebi for KDE
[14:47] <Kilos> some package tool took over after i double clicked on ibid daily package
[14:48] <Kilos> dolphin is nice
[14:48] <Kilos> shows packages well
[16:04] <Kilos> aw missed him
[16:05] <Kilos> not very patient was he
[16:05] <Kilos> hyper active dude
[16:18] <Kilos> hi Cantide
[16:18] <Cantide> hello :)
[16:19] <Cantide> how is Kilos ?
[16:19] <Kilos> good ty and you Cantide ?
[16:19] <Kilos> trying to find sound for my xchat
[16:20] <Kilos> and/or quassel
[16:20] <Cantide> i'm okay '-' eating dinner :)
[16:21] <Kilos> lol
[16:37] <nuvolari> .
[16:37] <nuvolari> :D
[16:37] <nuvolari> I'm alive!
[16:37] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos
[16:37] <Kilos> wow nuvolari wb
[16:37] <nuvolari> howdy Cantide,
[16:37] <nuvolari> Ludo:
[16:38] <nuvolari> dankie oom :)
[16:38] <Kilos> sjoe jy was lank weg ne
[16:38] <Kilos> als goed daar?
[16:38] <nuvolari> ja oom, moet maar soveel tyd soos ek kan saam my ouers spandeer
[16:38] <nuvolari> voor dit eendag te laat is
[16:38] <nuvolari> dit gaan voor die wind dankie oom
[16:38] <Kilos> o ja ekt vergeet
[16:40] <nuvolari> hulle's darm veilig by die huis
[16:40] <nuvolari> soe, is vanoggend vroeg hier weg
[16:41] <Kilos> mooi
[16:42] <Cantide> hey nuvolari :)
[16:56] <Kilos> inetpro, you home yet
[16:56] <Kilos> ?
[16:58] <superfly> wow nuvolari
[16:59] <superfly> Kilos: do you want it to bloep for each and every message?
[16:59] <magespawn> good evening nuvolari, Kilos, superfly, Cantide
[17:00] <superfly> yo magespawn
[17:00] <Cantide> haha
[17:00] <Cantide> hello magespawn :p
[17:00] <superfly> so much for my 10Mbps, I'm getting 2 this evening
[17:00] <Kilos> nope superfly only when nick mentioned
[17:00] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[17:00] <nuvolari> hi superfly, magespawn
[17:00] <Kilos> 2m/s whew i dream of that
[17:01] <superfly> Kilos: in Quassel, Settings > Configure > Interface > Notifications
[17:01] <Kilos> updated kubuntu at 4kB/s on fone
[17:02] <Kilos> ok i open quassel first and try set it up ty superfly did another clean install with /home deleted
[17:05] <kilos_> hmm
[17:05] <superfly> hi kilos_
[17:05] <kilos_> hi superfly
[17:09] <magespawn> Kilos i am willing to be you could do install with your eyes closed by now
[17:09] <kilos_> rofl
[17:10] <kilos_> first time from a stick
[17:10] <kilos_> and second
[17:10] <kilos_> hehe
[17:10] <kilos_> if modem isnt plugged in it doesnt see it after reboot
[17:10]  * nuvolari wil send his lappy via mail to oom kilos_ when a new install is required
[17:11] <kilos_> lol yw
[17:11] <kilos_> now ive found a use for 8ta night surfer
[17:27] <Kilos> wow auto restart for some reason
[17:35] <Kilos> Maaz: hi
[17:35]  * Maaz waves to Kilos
[17:37] <superfly> hi Kilos
[17:37] <Kilos> hehe hi superfly still no sound
[17:38] <superfly> Kilos: go to Settings -> Notifications
[17:38] <Kilos> must i untick the play a sound block?
[17:38] <superfly> make sure you select "highlight"
[17:38] <superfly> and then make sure the sound block is ticked, and there is a sound file in the edit box
[17:40] <Kilos> KDE-Im-Highlight-Msg.ogg
[17:40] <Kilos> its all there but no sound
[17:41] <Kilos> Maaz: hi
[17:41] <Maaz> Sup Kilos
[17:41] <Kilos> sigh
[17:42] <Kilos> xchat also no sound but pidgin is fine
[17:44] <superfly> Kilos: select "Highlight when focused" and make sure it has the same settings
[17:47] <Kilos> in the notifications window it pongs with top 2 and plings with bottom 2
[17:47] <Kilos> hehe
[17:47] <superfly> Kilos: so are you getting noises now?
[17:48] <Kilos> nope
[17:48] <Kilos> Maaz: hi
[17:48] <Maaz> Sup Kilos
[17:48] <Kilos> weird
[17:48] <Kilos> must i restart quassel maybe?
[17:50] <Kilos> lol thats why the goose is hiding
[17:51] <Kilos> too much brain strain with me going kde
[17:52] <superfly> Kilos: it works for me
[17:52] <Kilos> yay it worked
[17:53] <Kilos> maybe had to scratch around for the sound file first
[17:53] <Kilos> Maaz: hi
[17:53] <Maaz> Howzit Kilos
[17:53] <Kilos> not from him
[17:53] <Kilos> maybe something else made the sound
[17:54] <superfly> Kilos:
[17:54] <superfly> Kilos:
[17:54] <Kilos> maybe a gstreamer file missing
[17:54] <Kilos> nothing
[17:55] <Kilos> i tried googling too and all i find for xchat is tips and tricks
[17:55] <Kilos> no sound info
[17:56] <superfly> Kilos: please say my nick, I'm not only hanging in here
[17:57] <Kilos> superfly:
[17:57] <Kilos> superfly:
[17:57] <superfly> there works for me
[17:57] <Kilos> aw
[17:57] <Kilos> its something else missing here
[17:58] <Kilos> quassel and xchat got no sound
[17:58] <Kilos> bindings or hooks or whatever you call them
[17:58] <Kilos> both settings in quassel and xchat show sound should work
[17:59] <Kilos> its kmail making sounds because it cant get to gmail with pop
[18:00] <Kilos> superfly: lemme try do sound from mb
[18:00] <Kilos> maybe its because sound card hasnt got drivers
[18:00] <Kilos> gotta go enable ac97 in bios first
[18:09] <Kilos> aw not that either
[18:13] <superfly> Kilos: minimize quassel
[18:14] <superfly> Kilos: if another app has focus, quassel will generally highlight
[18:14] <Kilos> done but cant see you if it stays minimised
[18:14] <Kilos> hehe
[18:15] <Kilos> nothing else is open
[18:23] <Kilos> i nearly thought nuvolari had found something else to do like drubin
[18:24] <Kilos> and corrie206
[18:30] <smile> bye :)
[18:33] <Kilos> inetpro: jy kannie hele tyd ander goed doen nie
[18:33] <Kilos> kom drink saam koffie
[18:33] <Kilos> Maaz: coffee on
[18:33]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[18:37] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[18:37] <Kilos> Maaz: ty
[18:37] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[18:38] <Kilos> if im on another workspace then i hear messages to me
[18:38] <Kilos> but not when here
[18:38]  * Kilos scratches head
[18:44] <nuvolari> nah oom Kilos
[18:44] <nuvolari> I won't leave you all high and dry here
[18:44] <Kilos> ty very much
[18:45] <nuvolari> oom Kilos that's how notifications work in general
[18:45] <nuvolari> like when it's minimized or you don't have focus on that window, it will bloep you
[18:45] <nuvolari> otherwise it will just light up
[18:45] <Kilos> ya but why no sound in quassel and xchat?
[18:46] <Kilos> a plugin missing maybe
[18:46] <nuvolari> oh? like totally?
[18:47] <nuvolari> eek, I have to go kiep
[18:47] <nuvolari> night oom kilos, and everyone else
[18:47] <nuvolari> sleep toit
[18:47] <Kilos> sleep tight nuvolari
[18:48] <nuvolari> dankie oom :) oom ook!
[18:48] <Kilos> dankie seun
[19:24] <Kilos> superfly: is there a way to tell quassel to use alsa not whatever it is using?
[19:24] <Kilos> just an idea
[19:25] <Kilos> maybe pulse conflick or something
[19:25] <Kilos> conflict
[19:25] <superfly> Kilos: Quassel uses KDE's audio system
[19:27]  * superfly puts the heavy metal on at his son's request
[19:28] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[19:28] <Kilos> he should be in bed
[19:28] <Kilos> is that his lullabyes
[19:30] <superfly> Kilos: he doesn't go to bed before 10:00
[19:30] <Kilos> wow
[19:33] <magespawn> superfly: why so late?
[19:38] <superfly> magespawn: because that's the way he's wired
[19:38] <superfly> magespawn: what time do the fish get up?
[19:39] <superfly> (in the morning)
[19:39] <superfly> magespawn: cause eldest here only gets up at like 9am
[19:48] <Kilos> hehe night guys sleep tight
[19:52] <superfly> http://ifixit.org/3001/how-one-teacher-built-a-computer-lab-for-free/
[19:55] <magespawn> fish one is late 6 -7 fish two is early 5-6
[19:56] <magespawn> but theybare both in bed by 20:00 in school time
[20:03] <magespawn> i presume the eldest is not going to school yet superfly
[20:04] <superfly> magespawn: the eldest is 3
[20:06] <magespawn> good time for two or three times a week nursery/play school
[20:08] <superfly> magespawn: if you have the money
[20:08] <magespawn> ahh yes that is always the thing
[20:28] <magespawn> good night all, superfly
[20:29] <superfly> night
[21:05] <zeref> Symmetria:


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[04:55] <infinity> vorlon: If we block it, it'll be slightly more painful to do a bunch of rebuilds, since Debian Perl folks tend to update a ton of CPAN modules immediately after a new perl is in.
[04:56] <infinity> vorlon: So if we accidentally take it out of order, we get to do it twice.
[04:56] <infinity> vorlon: I'd be all for syncing perl as soon as it's in unstable, personally.
[04:56] <vorlon> ok
[04:56] <infinity> vorlon: It would be nice for the python transition to be done first, mind you, but we'll see how that goes.
[04:57] <infinity> vorlon: Did the announcement have an ETA?
[04:59] <vorlon> infinity: the ETA was "already uploaded"
[05:00] <infinity> vorlon: Ah. :)
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[11:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libcolumbus (disco-proposed/universe) [1.1.0+15.10.20150806-0ubuntu14 => 1.1.0+15.10.20150806-0ubuntu15] (no packageset)
[11:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: odil (disco-proposed/universe) [0.9.2-1build2 => 0.9.2-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[11:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libcolumbus [source] (disco-proposed) [1.1.0+15.10.20150806-0ubuntu15]
[11:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted odil [source] (disco-proposed) [0.9.2-1ubuntu1]
[12:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted caffe-contrib [source] (disco-proposed) [1.0.0-8ubuntu3]
[12:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted otb [source] (disco-proposed) [6.6.0+dfsg-2build1]
[12:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted caffe [source] (disco-proposed) [1.0.0-8ubuntu2]
[12:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: zeroc-ice (disco-proposed/universe) [3.7.1-4 => 3.7.1-4ubuntu1] (cli-mono)
[12:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted zeroc-ice [source] (disco-proposed) [3.7.1-4ubuntu1]
[12:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: eclib (disco-proposed/universe) [20171002-1build2 => 20180815-2] (no packageset) (sync)
[12:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cddlib (disco-proposed/universe) [094h-1 => 094j-2] (no packageset) (sync)
[12:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: libhomfly (disco-proposed/primary) [1.02r5-1]
[12:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: singular (disco-proposed/universe) [1:4.1.0-p3+ds-2build1 => 1:4.1.1-p2+ds-3] (no packageset) (sync)
[12:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: brial (disco-proposed/universe) [1.2.0-2 => 1.2.4-2] (no packageset) (sync)
[12:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: libbraiding (disco-proposed/primary) [1.0-1]
[12:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted brial [sync] (disco-proposed) [1.2.4-2]
[12:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted eclib [sync] (disco-proposed) [20180815-2]
[12:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cddlib [sync] (disco-proposed) [094j-2]
[12:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted singular [sync] (disco-proposed) [1:4.1.1-p2+ds-3]
[12:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libbraiding [sync] (disco-proposed) [1.0-1]
[12:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libhomfly [sync] (disco-proposed) [1.02r5-1]
[12:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libbraiding [s390x] (disco-proposed/none) [1.0-1] (no packageset)
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[12:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libbraiding [amd64] (disco-proposed/none) [1.0-1] (no packageset)
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[12:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: eclib [s390x] (disco-proposed/universe) [20180815-2] (no packageset)
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[12:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: eclib [i386] (disco-proposed/universe) [20180815-2] (no packageset)
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[12:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: eclib [ppc64el] (disco-proposed/universe) [20180815-2] (no packageset)
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[12:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: brial [i386] (disco-proposed/universe) [1.2.4-2] (no packageset)
[12:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: brial [amd64] (disco-proposed/universe) [1.2.4-2] (no packageset)
[12:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: eclib [amd64] (disco-proposed/universe) [20180815-2] (no packageset)
[12:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: singular [s390x] (disco-proposed/universe) [1:4.1.1-p2+ds-3] (no packageset)
[12:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: brial [arm64] (disco-proposed/universe) [1.2.4-2] (no packageset)
[12:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: brial [armhf] (disco-proposed/universe) [1.2.4-2] (no packageset)
[12:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-cobra (disco-proposed/universe) [0.13.4-1 => 0.13.4-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[12:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: eclib [arm64] (disco-proposed/universe) [20180815-2] (no packageset)
[12:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-cobra [source] (disco-proposed) [0.13.4-1ubuntu1]
[12:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: singular [ppc64el] (disco-proposed/universe) [1:4.1.1-p2+ds-3] (no packageset)
[12:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted brial [amd64] (disco-proposed) [1.2.4-2]
[12:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted brial [armhf] (disco-proposed) [1.2.4-2]
[12:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted brial [ppc64el] (disco-proposed) [1.2.4-2]
[12:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted brial [arm64] (disco-proposed) [1.2.4-2]
[12:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted brial [s390x] (disco-proposed) [1.2.4-2]
[12:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted brial [i386] (disco-proposed) [1.2.4-2]
[12:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libbraiding [arm64] (disco-proposed/universe) [1.0-1] (no packageset)
[12:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libhomfly [arm64] (disco-proposed/universe) [1.02r5-1] (no packageset)
[12:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: odil (disco-proposed/universe) [0.9.2-1ubuntu1 => 0.9.2-1ubuntu2] (no packageset)
[12:48]  * xnox hopes that auto-accept is on....
[12:48] <xnox> or do i need to ping doko to accept my odil? =)
[12:50] <doko> xnox: done. do you look at libcolumbus too?
[12:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted odil [source] (disco-proposed) [0.9.2-1ubuntu2]
[12:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libhomfly [armhf] (disco-proposed/universe) [1.02r5-1] (no packageset)
[12:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libhomfly [amd64] (disco-proposed) [1.02r5-1]
[12:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libhomfly [armhf] (disco-proposed) [1.02r5-1]
[12:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libhomfly [ppc64el] (disco-proposed) [1.02r5-1]
[12:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: eclib [armhf] (disco-proposed/universe) [20180815-2] (no packageset)
[12:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libhomfly [arm64] (disco-proposed) [1.02r5-1]
[12:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libhomfly [s390x] (disco-proposed) [1.02r5-1]
[12:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libhomfly [i386] (disco-proposed) [1.02r5-1]
[12:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libbraiding [armhf] (disco-proposed/universe) [1.0-1] (no packageset)
[12:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted eclib [amd64] (disco-proposed) [20180815-2]
[12:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted eclib [armhf] (disco-proposed) [20180815-2]
[12:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted eclib [ppc64el] (disco-proposed) [20180815-2]
[12:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted eclib [arm64] (disco-proposed) [20180815-2]
[12:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted eclib [s390x] (disco-proposed) [20180815-2]
[12:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted eclib [i386] (disco-proposed) [20180815-2]
[12:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: postgresql-common (disco-proposed/main) [193 => 193ubuntu1] (ubuntu-server)
[12:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libbraiding [amd64] (disco-proposed) [1.0-1]
[12:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libbraiding [armhf] (disco-proposed) [1.0-1]
[12:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libbraiding [ppc64el] (disco-proposed) [1.0-1]
[12:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libbraiding [arm64] (disco-proposed) [1.0-1]
[12:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libbraiding [s390x] (disco-proposed) [1.0-1]
[12:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libbraiding [i386] (disco-proposed) [1.0-1]
[12:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted postgresql-common [source] (disco-proposed) [193ubuntu1]
[13:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted hhvm [ppc64el] (disco-proposed) [3.24.7+dfsg-2ubuntu5]
[13:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: singular [i386] (disco-proposed/universe) [1:4.1.1-p2+ds-3] (no packageset)
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[14:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted singular [amd64] (disco-proposed) [1:4.1.1-p2+ds-3]
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[14:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sagetex (disco-proposed/universe) [3.0+ds-6build1 => 3.0+ds-6build2] (no packageset)
[14:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sagetex [source] (disco-proposed) [3.0+ds-6build2]
[14:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: otb (disco-proposed/universe) [6.6.0+dfsg-2build1 => 6.6.0+dfsg-3] (no packageset) (sync)
[14:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted otb [sync] (disco-proposed) [6.6.0+dfsg-3]
[14:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: evince (cosmic-proposed/main) [3.30.1-1ubuntu1 => 3.30.1-1ubuntu1.2] (ubuntu-desktop)
[15:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: aodh (cosmic-proposed/main) [7.0.0-0ubuntu3 => 7.0.0-0ubuntu4] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[15:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: pynac (disco-proposed/universe) [0.7.22-2 => 0.7.22-4] (no packageset) (sync)
[15:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: barbican (cosmic-proposed/main) [1:7.0.0-0ubuntu2 => 1:7.0.0-0ubuntu3] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[15:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pynac [sync] (disco-proposed) [0.7.22-4]
[15:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mathgl (disco-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-2build1 => <IP_ADDRESS>-2ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[15:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mathgl [source] (disco-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-2ubuntu1]
[15:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cysignals (disco-proposed/universe) [1.6.7+ds-4ubuntu1 => 1.6.7+ds-4ubuntu2] (no packageset)
[15:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cysignals [source] (disco-proposed) [1.6.7+ds-4ubuntu2]
[15:39] <doko> assuming we get the python3 transition done, should we do perl next before the opening?
[15:40] <doko> what about poppler / protobuf?
[15:45] <infinity> We should definitely get perl going.
[16:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sagemath (disco-proposed/universe) [8.4-2ubuntu1 => 8.4-2ubuntu2] (no packageset)
[16:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sagemath (disco-proposed/universe) [8.4-2ubuntu1 => 8.4-2ubuntu2] (no packageset)
[16:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected sagemath [source] (disco-proposed) [8.4-2ubuntu2]
[16:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sagemath [source] (disco-proposed) [8.4-2ubuntu2]
[17:01] <tsimonq2> I see the hourly p-m nag emails are back. :P
[17:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-release-upgrader (bionic-proposed/main) [1:18.04.27 => 1:18.04.28] (core)
[17:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: grub2-signed (bionic-proposed/main) [1.93.8 => 1.93.9] (core)
[18:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted barbican [source] (cosmic-proposed) [1:7.0.0-0ubuntu3]
[19:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: apport (disco-proposed/main) [2.20.10-0ubuntu13 => 2.20.10-0ubuntu14] (core)
[19:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-lts-xenial [amd64] (trusty-proposed/main) [4.4.0-139.165~14.04.1] (kernel)
[19:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-lts-xenial [amd64] (trusty-proposed) [4.4.0-139.165~14.04.1]
[19:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cinder [source] (cosmic-proposed) [2:13.0.0-0ubuntu4]
[19:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted aodh [source] (cosmic-proposed) [7.0.0-0ubuntu4]
[20:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: simpleitk (disco-proposed/primary) [1.0.1-2ubuntu1]
[20:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted apport [source] (disco-proposed) [2.20.10-0ubuntu14]
[20:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted simpleitk [source] (disco-proposed) [1.0.1-2ubuntu1]
[20:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (xenial-proposed/main) [2.408.38 => 2.408.40] (desktop-core)
[20:51] <doko> bdmurray: ^^^is this apport upload supposed to fix the autopkg test failure?
[20:52] <bdmurray> doko: it based when I used autopkgtest locally
[20:52] <doko> based?
[20:53] <bdmurray> passed
[21:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: aiocoap (disco-proposed/universe) [0.3-2 => 0.3-2ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[21:25] <mwhudson> that aiocoap upload should fix the autopkgtests but badtesting aiocoap/0.3-2 would also be appropriate
[21:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2 [source] (bionic-proposed) [2.02-2ubuntu8.8]
[21:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2-signed [source] (bionic-proposed) [1.93.9]
[21:46]  * mwhudson glares at python-tornado
[21:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mia (disco-proposed/universe) [2.4.6-3 => 2.4.6-3ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[21:50] <doko> that looks better than before, where it failed the tests everywhere
[21:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted aiocoap [source] (disco-proposed) [0.3-2ubuntu1]
[21:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mia [source] (disco-proposed) [2.4.6-3ubuntu1]
[21:51] <doko> bdmurray: apport's autopkg tests still not happy
[21:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: grub2 (bionic-proposed/main) [2.02-2ubuntu8.8 => 2.02-2ubuntu8.8] (core)
[21:59] <mwhudson> oh right
[21:59] <mwhudson> the change for Set ASYNC_TEST_TIMEOUT to higher value to prevent test failing on slower archs during build does what it says:
[21:59] <mwhudson> increases the timeouts for the _build_
[21:59] <mwhudson> but not the autopkgtest
[22:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-tornado (disco-proposed/universe) [5.1.1-2 => 5.1.1-2ubuntu1] (ubuntustudio)
[22:05] <mwhudson> doko: so i think that's fixes for all the python3-defaults autopkgtest failures uploaded
[22:05] <mwhudson> doko: well apart from systemd/i386 which is just a case of bouncing on retry i assume
[22:05]  * mwhudson afk for a few
[22:09] <doko> mwhudson: right, now those are missing with failing tests, and depending on python3-defaults ...
[22:10] <doko> mwhudson: can you sru the tornado fix for b and c as well?
[22:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-tornado [source] (disco-proposed) [5.1.1-2ubuntu1]
[22:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mia (disco-proposed/universe) [2.4.6-3ubuntu1 => 2.4.6-3ubuntu2] (no packageset)
[22:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mia [source] (disco-proposed) [2.4.6-3ubuntu2]
[22:23] <mwhudson> doko: ok
[22:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: grub2 (bionic-proposed/main) [2.02-2ubuntu8.8 => 2.02-2ubuntu8.8] (core)
[22:25] <doko> ta, now heading to bed
[22:27] <mwhudson> doko: well actually the tests seem to be passing in c and b, is this just future proofing?
[22:28] <mwhudson> i can create the bug and uploads anyway i guess
[22:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-tornado (bionic-proposed/universe) [4.5.3-1 => 4.5.3-1.0ubuntu1] (ubuntustudio)
[22:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-tornado (cosmic-proposed/universe) [5.0.2-1build1 => 5.0.2-1.0ubuntu1] (ubuntustudio)
[23:15] <doko> mwhudson: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3-defaults/+bug/1799206 had it failing for cosmic. sorry, didn't check about bionic
[23:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted llvm-toolchain-6.0 [sync] (disco-proposed) [1:6.0.1-9.2]
[23:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted llvm-toolchain-7 [sync] (disco-proposed) [1:7-6]
[23:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: aiocoap (disco-proposed/universe) [0.3-2ubuntu1 => 0.3-2ubuntu2] (no packageset)
[23:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: simpleitk [i386] (disco-proposed/universe) [1.0.1-2ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[23:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted aiocoap [source] (disco-proposed) [0.3-2ubuntu2]
[23:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: simpleitk [amd64] (disco-proposed/universe) [1.0.1-2ubuntu1] (no packageset)


[05:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-rand-0.5 [ppc64el] (disco-proposed/universe) [0.5.5-2] (no packageset)
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[05:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: node-chai [amd64] (disco-proposed/universe) [4.2.0+ds-3] (no packageset)
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[05:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: valentina [i386] (disco-proposed/universe) [0.6.1~dfsg-4] (no packageset)
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[06:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: valentina [arm64] (disco-proposed/universe) [0.6.1~dfsg-4] (no packageset)
[07:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-rand-0.5 [amd64] (disco-proposed) [0.5.5-2]
[07:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-rand-0.5 [armhf] (disco-proposed) [0.5.5-2]
[07:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-rand-0.5 [ppc64el] (disco-proposed) [0.5.5-2]
[07:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted valentina [amd64] (disco-proposed) [0.6.1~dfsg-3]
[07:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted valentina [arm64] (disco-proposed) [0.6.1~dfsg-4]
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[07:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-rand-0.5 [arm64] (disco-proposed) [0.5.5-2]
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[07:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted fonts-noto [amd64] (disco-proposed) [20181227-1]
[07:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gitit [arm64] (disco-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>+dfsg-1]
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[07:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted node-chai [amd64] (disco-proposed) [4.2.0+ds-3]
[07:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-rand-0.5 [amd64] (disco-proposed) [0.5.5-1]
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[07:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pikepdf [amd64] (disco-proposed) [0.10.1-2]
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[07:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted slirp4netns [amd64] (disco-proposed) [0.1~git20181119.5e4789b-1]
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[07:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pikepdf [arm64] (disco-proposed) [0.10.1-2]
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[07:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pikepdf [i386] (disco-proposed) [0.10.1-2]
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[07:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted slirp4netns [arm64] (disco-proposed) [0.1~git20181119.5e4789b-1]
[07:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-gi-gdkx11 [amd64] (disco-proposed) [3.0.2-1]
[07:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-gi-gdkx11 [armhf] (disco-proposed) [3.0.2-1]
[07:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-gi-gdkx11 [ppc64el] (disco-proposed) [3.0.2-1]
[07:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-gi-gtk [amd64] (disco-proposed) [3.0.24-1]
[07:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-gi-gtk [armhf] (disco-proposed) [3.0.24-1]
[07:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-gi-gtk [ppc64el] (disco-proposed) [3.0.24-1]
[07:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-gi-gdkx11 [arm64] (disco-proposed) [3.0.2-1]
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[07:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-gi-gtk [i386] (disco-proposed) [3.0.24-1]
[07:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-gi-gdkx11 [i386] (disco-proposed) [3.0.2-1]
[07:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-gi-gtk [s390x] (disco-proposed) [3.0.24-1]
[07:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-gi-gtk [arm64] (disco-proposed) [3.0.24-1]
[07:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-nats-io-gnatsd [amd64] (disco-proposed) [1.3.0+git20181112.3c52dc8-1ubuntu1]
[07:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pdfarranger [amd64] (disco-proposed) [1.1-1]
[07:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pyninjotiff [amd64] (disco-proposed) [0.1.0-1]
[07:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qtdatavis3d-everywhere-src [amd64] (disco-proposed) [5.11.3-1]
[07:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted node-chai [amd64] (disco-proposed) [4.2.0+ds-2]
[07:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-aioxmpp [amd64] (disco-proposed) [0.10.2-1]
[07:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pdfarranger [amd64] (disco-proposed) [1.1.1-1]
[07:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted use-package [amd64] (disco-proposed) [2.4-1]
[07:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted beancount [amd64] (disco-proposed) [2.1.3+hg20181225-2]
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[07:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libqmatrixclient [arm64] (disco-proposed) [0.4.1-1]
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[07:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libqmatrixclient [s390x] (disco-proposed) [0.4.1-1]
[07:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted beancount [i386] (disco-proposed) [2.1.3+hg20181225-2]
[07:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libqmatrixclient [armhf] (disco-proposed) [0.4.1-1]
[07:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libqmatrixclient [amd64] (disco-proposed) [0.4.1-1]
[07:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libqmatrixclient [ppc64el] (disco-proposed) [0.4.1-1]
[08:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: fava [amd64] (disco-proposed/universe) [1.9-2] (no packageset)
[08:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-gi-dbusmenugtk3 [s390x] (disco-proposed/universe) [0.4.2-1] (no packageset)
[08:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-gtk-strut [i386] (disco-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
[08:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-gtk-strut [amd64] (disco-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
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[08:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-gi-dbusmenugtk3 [i386] (disco-proposed/universe) [0.4.2-1] (no packageset)
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[08:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-gi-gtk-hs [i386] (disco-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
[08:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-gi-vte [amd64] (disco-proposed/universe) [2.91.19-1] (no packageset)
[08:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-gi-dbusmenugtk3 [amd64] (disco-proposed/universe) [0.4.2-1] (no packageset)
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[08:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-gi-vte [ppc64el] (disco-proposed/universe) [2.91.19-1] (no packageset)
[08:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-gtk-strut [ppc64el] (disco-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
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[08:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-gi-dbusmenugtk3 [arm64] (disco-proposed/universe) [0.4.2-1] (no packageset)
[08:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-gi-dbusmenugtk3 [armhf] (disco-proposed/universe) [0.4.2-1] (no packageset)
[08:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-gi-gtk-hs [arm64] (disco-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
[08:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-gi-gtk-hs [armhf] (disco-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
[08:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-gtk-strut [armhf] (disco-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
[08:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-gtk-strut [arm64] (disco-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
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[09:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted fava [amd64] (disco-proposed) [1.9-2]
[09:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-gi-dbusmenugtk3 [arm64] (disco-proposed) [0.4.2-1]
[09:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-gi-dbusmenugtk3 [i386] (disco-proposed) [0.4.2-1]
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[09:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-gi-gtk-hs [arm64] (disco-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
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[09:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-gi-dbusmenugtk3 [ppc64el] (disco-proposed) [0.4.2-1]
[09:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-gi-gtk-hs [armhf] (disco-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
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[09:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-gi-gtk-hs [ppc64el] (disco-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[09:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-gtk-strut [amd64] (disco-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
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[10:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-gtk-sni-tray [s390x] (disco-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
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[10:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-termonad [amd64] (disco-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-2] (no packageset)
[10:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-gtk-sni-tray [arm64] (disco-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
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[10:38] <LocutusOfBorg> plese accept them ^^ termonad builds only on amd64 for now, nd gtk-sni-tray is built everywhere :D
[11:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: pymol [s390x] (disco-proposed/universe) [2.2.0+dfsg-4] (no packageset)
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[12:44] <LocutusOfBorg> and pymol is good too!
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[17:02] <LocutusOfBorg> can anybody infra-savvy tell me which socket changes on infrastructure made this test fail? http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/b/backuppc/disco/armhf
[17:02] <LocutusOfBorg> cmdSystemOrEval: finished: got output ping: socket: Operation not permitted
[17:02] <LocutusOfBorg> cmdSystemOrEval: about to system /bin/ping6 -c 1 localhost
[17:02] <LocutusOfBorg> this  is what fails I think
[17:03] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: I'd assume it's lxc denying the operation.
[17:26] <LocutusOfBorg> probably, but what is your suggested fix?
[17:27] <LocutusOfBorg> is an infra bug or should the package stop trying to ping?
[17:27] <LocutusOfBorg> I would say ping is a safe operation
[17:35] <Laney> The latest iputils upload is very suspicious, would suggest investigating from there
[17:35] <Laney> (not here, so can't help you)
[17:37] <LocutusOfBorg> Laney<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:37] <LocutusOfBorg> this one has the latest iputils and is a good result...
[17:37] <LocutusOfBorg> timing is interesting anyway
[17:38] <Laney> Don't bother pinging me back, I can't help you.
[17:41] <infinity> Ahh, yeah, it's the latest iputils.
[17:41] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: The difference between those logs is that the successful one has iputils upgrading, attempting to setcap, failing that, then setting ping suid.
[17:41] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: While the failing ones have ping (presumably setcapped) in the rootfs.
[17:43] <infinity> vorlon: ^-- Thoughts?
[17:44] <infinity> vorlon: Your upload mentions "... now that we can rely on fscap support everywhere including in lxd" which may be true, but does it mean we need a new lxc/lxd profile on armhf autopkgtest hosts to accomodate?
[17:46] <infinity> Oh course, iputils-ping isn't in minimal, and this bug would go away if the autopktest roots weren't fat to start with...
[17:46] <infinity> Er, it's minimal, but not essential.  That.
[18:55] <vorlon> infinity: hmm my understanding was that no special profile was required but that we needed the latest SRUed version of lxd to land in -updates first.  And that was on lxd 3.0.x so possibly this doesn't work so hot on 16.04-based lxd runners.
[18:56] <vorlon> infinity: actually the runners seem to have lxd from xenial-backports, but a stale one; so maybe we just need to upgrade
[18:56] <vorlon> Laney: ^^ thoughts on this?  Should we JFDI?
[18:56] <vorlon> (I'll take silence for consent, since you're not here)
[19:00] <jbicha> vorlon: could you handle LP: #1703630 ?
[19:11] <vorlon> infinity, Laney: lxd updated on all the arm64 runners (and fixed the pssh wrapper in the process)
[19:17] <vorlon> jbicha: done
[19:32] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg, infinity: am retrying the failed backuppc test now; I'm not sure if I also need to re-import the lxd images to get it to work, ISTR there was some question about that when I was talking to stgraber about the fscaps thing, so we'll see if this works or if I have more to do
[19:40] <stgraber> depends on the storage backend used
[19:41] <stgraber> if using dir, the image is unpacked every time so doesn't matter, if using something else, the unpack would have happened earlier so you should delete the image to force a re-import with a fscaps enabled version of the code
[20:27] <Laney> ...I probably would have tested that upgrade first...
[20:27] <Laney> but if it works, good
[20:29] <Laney> Looks to me like that broke armhf
[20:30] <Laney> still not here, though, sorry
[22:23] <Laney> ok, here now, I'll fix that
[22:38] <Laney> there we go
[23:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kross-interpreters [s390x] (disco-proposed/universe) [4:18.08.3-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[23:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kross-interpreters [amd64] (disco-proposed/universe) [4:18.08.3-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[23:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kross-interpreters [ppc64el] (disco-proposed/universe) [4:18.08.3-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[23:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kross-interpreters [i386] (disco-proposed/universe) [4:18.08.3-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[23:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kross-interpreters [arm64] (disco-proposed/universe) [4:18.08.3-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[23:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kross-interpreters [armhf] (disco-proposed/universe) [4:18.08.3-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[23:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: lix [amd64] (disco-proposed/universe) [0.9.23-1] (no packageset)
[23:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: lix [i386] (disco-proposed/universe) [0.9.23-1] (no packageset)
[23:37] <Laney> vorlon: Looks like that test still failed.
[23:38] <Laney> Also, does this mean that iputils doesn't have an autopkgtest? It'd be good to have one that would have caught this.
[23:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: lix [armhf] (disco-proposed/universe) [0.9.23-1] (no packageset)


[13:09] <mason> popey: It'd be slicker, more professional if you'd say why you're declining ubuntu-wiki-editors applications. Also doing so in a reasonable time would be useful - I'd forgotten I'd applied.
[13:10] <popey> mason thanks for the feedback
[13:10] <mason> popey: No further comment?
[13:11] <popey> I'm currently in a meeting.
[18:17] <hggdh> yoasif: is this on 20.10?
[18:21] <yoasif> hggdh: yes
[18:21] <yoasif> this worked a few days ago and i updated recently
[18:21] <yoasif> want to report this one first
[18:22] <yoasif> but also running into another issue where i can't login to a wayland session any more
[18:23] <oerheks> wayland, did you install nvidia drivers by any chance?
[18:23] <yoasif> no
[18:23] <yoasif> im on intel onlt
[18:23] <yoasif> only*
[18:23] <oerheks> oh oke.
[20:06] <yoasif> is there a more active ubuntu chat?
[20:09] <oerheks> yoasif, this is the channel for next
[20:09] <oerheks> release
[20:10] <oerheks> there is #ubuntu also
[20:11] <yoasif> right...
[20:11] <yoasif> so does anyone have any ideas on what package to report the issue against?


 I know a guy who collects.
[14:26] <cmaloney> jrwren: 's OK.
[14:26] <cmaloney> I'm looking more for folks to get some use out of it
[14:26] <cmaloney> and this is in line with one of my goals - opening a museum
[14:27] <cmaloney> keeping the stuff that really interests me
[14:27] <jrwren> ah! I see.
[14:27] <cmaloney> and giving others a chance to experience this stuff first-hand.
[14:27] <cmaloney> Stuff they might not see otherwise.
[14:28] <jrwren> yup. Well, Mike is into cabinets, so if you have any boards or cabinet parts. He restores those and runs them. Otherwise, he's probably not interested
[14:28] <cmaloney> Yeah, I know some collectors
[14:28] <cmaloney> it's more hassle than it's worth. :)
[14:29] <cmaloney> Keeping the big machines. :)
[14:29] <jrwren> I agree.
[14:29] <cmaloney> (and the Amiga, because it's awesome, and because the spirit of Jay Miner lives on)
[14:29] <jrwren> whoo hoo!
[14:30] <cmaloney> But the 5200? I'll never play it and most of the great games got ported to the 8-bit
[14:30] <jrwren> but... rare!
[14:30] <cmaloney> (and most of the games started on the 8-bit)
[14:30] <cmaloney> Meh. :)
[14:30] <cmaloney> Rare because those controllers suck
[14:30] <jrwren> haha! yup
[14:31] <jrwren> I think the amiga ports are compat with atari sticks. have you played any amiga games?
[14:31] <cmaloney> Yeah, I have
[14:31] <cmaloney> Amiga is awesome.
[14:31] <cmaloney> I wish I would have figured that out a long time ago
[14:31] <cmaloney> but the commodore hate was palpable.
[14:32] <jrwren> I understand. I much prefered Atari, mostly because the basic on 800XL had drawing primitives.
[14:32] <cmaloney> Wel, the Atari 800 was a great machine
[14:33] <cmaloney> unfortunately undocumented until later in its life
[14:33] <cmaloney> Stupid Atari
[14:33] <cmaloney> They did some pretty bone-headed maneuvers
[14:34] <cmaloney> And I never got around to picking up an Atari ST
[14:34] <cmaloney> Though I think it's because I was saving myself for Linux. ;)
[14:34] <jrwren> ha! same here.
[14:35] <jrwren> so glad I never programmed on DOS 16bit and that segmented memory insanity
[14:35] <jrwren> well, I did, but not much
[14:35] <cmaloney> Yeah, I played with it and found it ridiculous
[14:36] <cmaloney> "how the hell should I know what my 'hello world' program needs"
[14:41] <Scary_Guy> php7, apparetnly :P


[00:01] <charlie-tca__> hmm, Xubuntu desktop 64 is still oversize. It is now 712MB, which won't a cd.
[00:01] <charlie-tca__> (after the respin, too)
[00:05] <charlie-tca__> pitti: ^ ^  ^ still need to trim more
[00:09] <slangasek> charlie-tca__: what should be trimmed?  That's a decision for the xubuntu devs rather than the release team, isn't it?
[00:11] <charlie-tca__> mr_pouit told me pitti was trimming it. I will go back to him and see what he can do.
[00:15] <slangasek> well, I can trim things, but the decisions about what should go are really for the xubuntu team to make
[00:16] <slangasek> I guess language packs are the first choice :)
[00:16] <charlie-tca__> okay. I will try to get mr_pouit on it. pitti was going to do something agreed by him and lionel already.
[00:17] <charlie-tca__> I asked pitti before the respin, since there was no reason to respin if it wasn't gonna fit yet, and he said he trimmed it already
[00:17] <slangasek> it's 1am in Germany, so I think pitti is safely away
[00:18] <charlie-tca__> Oh, yeah. France too, I guess.
[00:18] <charlie-tca__> I guess it will have to wait for one of them
[00:19] <stgraber> same timezone, so they should be back in 7-8 hours
[00:21] <slangasek> charlie-tca__: nah, if they're both out, no need to lose the time; if they don't like the changes I make they can revert and no harm done
[00:22] <charlie-tca__> Works for me. If you need me say okay as team lead, go for it
[00:22] <slangasek> in fact, from what I see the changes didn't take because we haven't done a task regeneration run in the archive since the seeds were changed
[00:22] <slangasek> so I may just need to kick the archive harder and respin
[00:23] <charlie-tca__> Well, let's do that then. We need those changes to happen
[00:27] <slangasek> ScottK: accepting ubuntu-sugar-remix-meta
[00:30] <GrueMaster> slangasek: Respin?  What for?
[00:30] <slangasek> GrueMaster: xubuntu oversize, nothing to worry about
[00:30] <GrueMaster> Ok.  I haveenough to panic about here.
[00:50] <slangasek> kubuntu arm seems to be done some time ago; posting to the tracker
[00:50] <charlie-tca__> Thank you, slangasek
[00:54] <slangasek> oh, well, good thing we have another package that was just accepted, because apparently we were a full two publisher cycles behind having the xubuntu tasks in sync - sigh
[00:54] <slangasek> hmm, or did that get accepted at just the wrong moment
[00:54] <slangasek> yah, it did
[00:55] <charlie-tca__> heh, I been complaining about the oversize for two spins now
[00:56] <slangasek> well, the current respin is smaller than the preceding
[00:56] <slangasek> but there were no publisher runs after the seed change, to make them effective
[00:56] <slangasek> no non-empty publisher runs, that is
[01:46] <slangasek> right, found the runes for forcing the publisher
[01:46] <slangasek> running now; and I'm running out the door, so will have to respin xubuntu a bit later
[03:58] <ScottK> slangasek: I thought I saw a note from you that syncing python-django wouldn't affect the server ISO.  If that's true, I recommend we do it.
[03:59] <ScottK> See Bug 636482
[03:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 636482 in python-django (Debian) (and 1 other project) "Update python-django to 1.2.3 version to fix an XSS vulnerability (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 26)" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/636482
[04:08] <ScottK> Actually now that i read the bug again, I remember why we can't sync it yet.
[04:08] <ScottK> Nevermine.
[04:08] <ScottK> e/d
[04:33] <FireCrotch> Hi. I have a question pertaining to getting a bug-fix included in Maverick before release, not quite sure about how to go about the process
[04:35] <FireCrotch> The fix is for this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdrm/+bug/619663  and the fixed packages are contained in a ppa linked to in the comments
[04:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 619663 in libdrm (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "[maverick] Non-mirrored dual-screen gives narrow display on secondary monitor (affects: 22) (dups: 6) (heat: 134)" [High,Fix committed]
[05:39] <ScottK> FireCrotch: Unless it's worth delaying the whole release for, it's too late.
[05:43] <FireCrotch> ScottK: Well, I guess that depends on what is considered worth delaying the whole release for. :) Maybe it's a bug that we can at least get mentioned in the release notes and upload a fixed package for updates, for those who do need the functionality?
[05:44] <ScottK> That would be a better approach.
[05:47] <FireCrotch> Is there someone specific that I can contact to coordinate that?
[05:50] <RAOF> FireCrotch: Sarvatt is already on it.
[05:56] <FireCrotch> RAOF: Oh, thank you
[06:21] <ScottK> slangasek, cjwatson, etc: I'm leaving ninvaders in the queue if you need to stimulate a publisher run.  It should be good to accept if you need it.
[06:27] <slangasek> ScottK: yes, python-django isn't on the server - I figured that one had been done already, grabbing it now
[06:37] <slangasek> ok, the xubuntu-live task is starting to make me angry
[06:37] <slangasek> ScottK: ah, read the rest of scrollback before committing the change; good :)
[06:39] <ScottK> I'll leave you both gjs and ninvaders then for more publisher runs.
[06:39] <slangasek> thanks
[06:39] <slangasek> I need to figure out why the preceding publisher runs didn't already do the job, first :/
[06:40] <wgrant> I'm confused. Are the publisher's careful flags not enough? Why do you need uploads?
[06:40] <slangasek> wgrant: the what flags?
[06:40] <wgrant> You can tell the publisher to publish indices for a suite, and only that suite.
[06:40] <wgrant> Regardless of if there are uploads to be dealt with.
[06:41] <slangasek> wgrant: you know that our interface to this is "look at the crontab; hunt down the publisher cron job; find the magic line; edit until it does what we want"? :)
[06:41] <wgrant> Heh.
[06:42] <slangasek> anyway, what's going wrong now is germinate, somehow
[07:04] <ara> good morning all
[07:11] <pitti> Good morning
[07:11] <pitti> charlie-tca, slangasek: yes, indeed I trimmed some langpacks (since I added some a week ago)
[07:11] <slangasek> hey there
[07:12] <slangasek> so I'm rerunning germinate by hand, but I don't have high hopes; it's not picking up the latest xubuntu seed changes you made
[07:12] <slangasek> I don't know why yet
[07:12] <pitti> ah, seems that was sorted out now, *phew*; I was already afraid I couldn't count until 12 any more..
[07:13] <pitti> uh, darn
[07:14] <slangasek> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds/xubuntu.maverick/live is out-of-date
[07:18] <slangasek> trying to run the cronjob manually now
[07:41] <slangasek> well, ok, how did platform.maverick wind up getting its bzr branch upgraded to a format incompatible with what was being used on people.c.c... within two days of me commenting that now is perhaps not the time in the release cycle to make such a change
[07:41] <slangasek> sorted now
[07:44] <pitti> wasn't me, promised (bzr upgrade)
[07:44] <pitti> thanks
[07:45] <slangasek> pitti: sure, more likely me than you, I've hit a few 'upgrade' buttons on the website in the past few days... I just can't imagine why I would've done that
[07:47] <slangasek> ok, publisher running
[09:06] <doko> do we still run fdupes during live CD builds?
[09:08] <mvo> doko: I think we do (last I looked at the builder script)
[09:10] <doko> mvo, don't see it in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntu/
[09:19] <cjwatson> wgrant: two things in response to that: (1) the fundamental problem is that cron.germinate doesn't mark suites dirty when its output changes (or possibly that cron.germinate isn't more internal to the publisher, but that's harder); (2) using publish-distro.py's -A flag means that you have to unpick cron.publish-ftpmaster, which is really quite tedious
[09:20] <cjwatson> slangasek: apologies, that was my fault while trying to make bzr not crash for skaet checking out the seeds - I forgot that it would require work on people.c.c too
[09:20] <wgrant> cjwatson: You can't dirty a pocket from outside the publisher (it's in-process state). But we want to fix that for other reasons.
[09:20] <ara> skaet, good morning
[09:21] <ara> skaet, any reason why the upgrades are not yet in the tracker?
[09:21] <cjwatson> wgrant: maybe I should put it differently: when publish-distro.py starts up it considers whether there are any uploads in queues but not whether cron.germinate has changed
[09:21] <cjwatson> (that's not entirely in-process)
[09:21] <wgrant> cjwatson: Right.
[09:21] <wgrant> It purely calculates the dirtyness from the state of the DB, which cron.germinate is not in.
[09:22] <skaet> ara, looking into it...
[09:24] <cjwatson> slangasek: of course, this means that I'm now having trouble running 'bzr up' because the repository is in the wrong format *sigh*
[09:25] <cjwatson> I may just have to go round and upgrade everything, but I guess I should wait for a little while
[09:26]  * cjwatson does 'bzr reconfigure --standalone' in the meantime
[09:26] <skaet> ara,  they're there now.
[09:26] <ara> skaet, ok, thanks
[09:48] <didrocks> ara: was it really slow for you for bug #656713? I wasn't paying really attention, but when I looked again, the installation was finished on my box without internet connexion and one selected French.
[09:48] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 656713 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity tries to get lang packs from Internet, even though there is no connection (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656713
[09:49] <ara> didrocks, well, it tried to download about 60-something packages, and it fails one by one, so, yes, it makes it slower
[09:50] <ara> I guess it can be solved in a SRU, as it does not fail, but as it should know that there is no internet connection, my guess is that it should skip that part
[09:50] <didrocks> ara: ok, I probably didn't pay attention to that, it was an acceptable time when not looking at it. Thanks :-)
[09:50] <didrocks> ara: I just tried to trick it and try "install mp3 support and updates". Was pretty slow when clicking on next, not sure it's related, I will try without that
[09:51] <didrocks> (like a min here to go to next screen)
[09:51] <didrocks> and with dummy partition table (just 2 tables, no lvm, no raid, nothing fancy)
[09:52] <ara> so how's the conversation going in the release sprint?
[09:53] <cjwatson> quiet
[09:53] <ara> :)
[09:59] <ttx> ara: as in "completely silent" quiet
[10:03] <cjwatson> ttx: as in "god I need coffee" quiet.  speaking of which ...
[10:19] <cjwatson> ara: 656165> hm, can you check your /etc/apt/sources.list after installation?  does it have (es.)archive.ubuntu.com entries?
[10:19] <cjwatson> 'cos the logs suggest it might not and that would be bad
[10:20] <ara> cjwatson, mmm, I don't have access to it anymore. I will try again as soon as I finish the installation I¡m doing now, and will let you know
[10:20] <cjwatson> as in respin bad
[10:21]  * cjwatson burns a test image
[10:21] <ara> cjwatson, but I think it did have it, because I remember checking that (to see if the bug with the source list was solved)
[10:24]  * ara listens to Bowie's Space Oddity as perfect OST for release testing
[10:24] <nigelb> heh
[10:26] <ara> Riddell, rekonq keeps crashing for me under KVM, have you tried that?
[10:28] <ara> bug 650934
[10:28] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 650934 in rekonq (Ubuntu) "Rekonq crashes in a KVM with 800MB ram (affects: 1) (heat: 487)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/650934
[10:29] <Riddell> ara: i've never used kvm
[10:32] <ara> I love the retro use of the stereo on that song :)
[10:32] <ara> cjwatson, I am testing again bug 656165
[10:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 656165 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Language support incomplete after installation (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656165
[10:33] <cjwatson> as am I
[10:33] <cjwatson> and ev apparently ...
[10:34] <ev> it's a party bug :)
[10:55] <ara> cjwatson, I cannot reproduce it now, so it seems that it was a transitional network problem, or something like that
[11:00] <cjwatson> ara: I think it is very probable that it depends on latency to the archive mirror.  that said there does seem to be something odd
[11:05] <ev> didrocks: was your removal of the note about not being able to use Startup Disk creator to create 10.04 images from Ubuntu 10.10 intentional?
[11:05] <ev> in: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/TechnicalOverview?action=diff&rev1=96&rev2=95
[11:06] <didrocks> ev: hum, no I read probably the other way around (creating 10.10 disk from lucid). Fixing it then, sorry
[11:07] <ev> no worries
[11:07] <ev> I just wanted to be sure you didn't know something that I was unaware of :)
[11:07] <didrocks> ev: that would we weird on usb creator :-)
[11:07] <didrocks> I'm updating the unity part as well
[11:07] <ev> heh
[11:07] <ev> cool, thanks
[11:20] <ara> cjwatson, how is the investigation on the OEM issue (respin-wise)?
[11:25] <cjwatson> ara: could you be more specific, please?
[11:27] <ara> cjwatson, bug 650703
[11:27] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 650703 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "oem-config-prepare works, but oem-config fails to start after reboot (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/650703
[11:41] <ev> ara: we need someone who can reproduce it to provide us with upstart debugging information
[11:41] <ev> so --debug on the kernel command line
[11:42] <cjwatson> ara: and since we can't reproduce, it's hard to consider it a respin candidate at the moment
[11:43] <cjwatson> ara: also, as Rick pointed out, the primary audience of oem-config is OEMs, who aren't constrained to using just the release image, so this can be fixed post-release if need be
[11:43] <ara> cjwatson, sure thing, thanks for the update
[11:43] <cjwatson> but indeed, what ev said
[12:01] <ara> cjwatson, ev, Riddell: Kubuntu amd64 OEM (DVD) just crashed for me
[12:01] <ara> bug 656819
[12:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 656819 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity crashed while installing Kubuntu DVD amd64 OEM mode (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656819
[12:02]  * Riddell still downloading amd64 dvd
[12:04] <Riddell> hum, that doesn't look too good
[12:05] <cjwatson> Oct  8 10:28:19 ubuntu in-target: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/source/Sources.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[12:05] <cjwatson> the consequence is obviously bad
[12:06] <cjwatson> but I think that's why it's happening
[12:06] <cjwatson> (this is essentially web cache skew - you have a "transparent" proxy between you and the internet, probably)
[12:08] <cjwatson> wonder why it's causing sources.list to be completely missing though; that's bizarre
[12:11]  * pitti yays at the empty "Daily CD health checks" email
[12:12] <cjwatson> in fact, that failure ought to be entirely ignored
[12:57] <robbiew> cjwatson: working through issues documented in Lucid's release notes for any carry over....was bug 345126 fixed for Maverick?
[12:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 345126 in partman-auto (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 3 other projects) "Installer creates too small swap partition (hibernation fails) (affects: 6) (heat: 19)" [High,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/345126
[13:02] <robbiew> ev: ^ ?
[13:04] <ev> robbiew: doesn't appear to have been.
[13:04] <robbiew> ack...release noting
[13:05] <ev> robbiew: best to check with cjwatson though.  Perhaps I'm looking in the wrong place for the change.
[13:06] <robbiew> ev: fair'nuf
[13:08] <cjwatson> shouldn't think so, given the won't fix
[13:08] <cjwatson> oh, that was for lucid.  but no, it wasn't
[13:10] <robbiew> skaet: ^^^ fyi,  another reason why we need to be able to have 2 distros open for development in launchpad :/
[13:12] <wgrant> We can technically create natty now, but we can't have it accepting uploads.
[13:14] <robbiew> wgrant: ah..so we could target bugs?
[13:15] <ScottL> was anyone wondering about a ubuntu studio respin for ia32-libs?
[13:15] <wgrant> robbiew: Right. The publisher will no longer combust if it sees an uninitialised series.
[13:15] <wgrant> But it's probably a bit late to be considering that now.
[13:16] <wgrant> (this has only been possible for a month or two)
[13:16] <robbiew> wgrant: ah...cool...and yes, no need to rock the boat ;)
[13:16] <wgrant> But for next time we should probably test and do that.
[13:21] <ScottK> ScottL: Do you want to respin for ia32-libs?
[13:23] <cjwatson> wgrant: what would the status of the new distroseries be?
[13:24] <wgrant> cjwatson: Probably Experimental.
[13:24] <wgrant> Since it can't be Development.
[13:24] <ScottL> ScottK, i believe YokoZar would like the respin and i do not object and can support it
[13:24] <cjwatson> indeed, can only have one of those
[13:24] <ScottK> cjwatson: Do you have any objections to an Ubuntu Studio respin?
[13:29] <ScottL> ScottK, i'm about to leave to take kids to school and go to work, i will be back on as scott-work in about 1.5 hours
[13:29] <ScottK> ScottL: OK.  I'll accept it if cjwatson thinks it's OK.
[13:32] <doko> hmm, I think I should reject the just uploaded libapache2-mod-python, because it's on the server cd
[13:34] <ScottK> doko: I was just about to suggest that.
[13:40] <cjwatson> ScottK: no objections
[13:40] <ScottK> OK.  Thanks.
[13:48] <ScottK> cjwatson: ia-32libs is built, so would you please respin Ubuntu Studio amd64 in an hour?
[13:48] <ScottK> ScottL: ^^^
[14:01]  * ara goes for a late lunch
[14:17] <cjwatson> ScottK: ack
[14:40] <scott-work> ScottK:  i read the logs, thank you (and cjwatson ) for your assistance
[14:44] <robbiew> skaet: I pruned the resolved Lucid issues from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/ReleaseNotes
[14:50] <skaet> robbiew:  thanks!
[15:01] <cjwatson> scott-work: respin running
[15:27] <cjwatson> ScottK,GrueMaster: do either of you know what the story is with Kubuntu arm preinstalled-desktop (not mobile) images?  They were published for RC, but there's only one entry in the ISO tracker, which is "Kubuntu Desktop Arm (omap)" (presumably omap3?) with a wrong link in its info
[15:27]  * ScottK looks at GrueMaster
[15:28]  * ScottK recalls he tested something ....
[15:28] <cjwatson> ScottK,GrueMaster: so I don't know how the omap4 one got tested, and it's going to make it difficult to automatically emit publication commands for omap4
[15:29] <cjwatson> scott-work: ubuntustudio reposted
[15:36] <Riddell> cjwatson: for RC the Kubuntu arm preinstalled-desktop images were on the ISO tracker as Kubuntu Netbook Arm (omap)
[15:38] <GrueMaster> cjwatson: I have not tested the final release for kubuntu, and am not in a position to test them this week.
[15:44] <scott-work> cjwatson: thank you
[15:48] <cjwatson> Riddell: *blink* ok, that's even more confusing, but is no help anyway as that's still only one image not omap(3) + omap4?
[15:49] <cjwatson> there's only Kubuntu Desktop Arm (omap) there now rather than Kubuntu Netbook Arm (omap), which I think is probably an improvement in terms of accuracy, but ...
[16:06] <didrocks> ev: does my proposal to bug #656777 make sense? (well, too late for maverick in any case, but it can help for natty)
[16:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 656777 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Wrong keyboard selection with starting directly ubiquity (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656777
[16:08]  * ev ponders
[16:12] <Riddell> cjwatson: unfortunately I don't know how the iso testing site works enough to fix it
[16:15] <ev> didrocks: an inidicator that opens a dialog of options is, I think, going to be the best solution in Natty.  I talked to cjwatson about it, and trying to guess the keyboard on language alone has been attempted before and had to be quickly reverted.
[16:16] <didrocks> ev: sure, but setting it as default can also be interesting. My point is that you already select "fr oss" in the keyboard layout selection dialog when you choose "French" in the first dialog. So, you are already making an assumption. Making the same assumption from the start will make more sense, isn't it?
[16:18] <cjwatson> Riddell: it's more a question of what we should be doing.  if we should be publishing both omap and omap4, I can work around it
[16:19] <cjwatson> didrocks: it's quite subtle for different languages
[16:19] <cjwatson> and in gfxboot, there's a menu so you get to change the assumption if it's wrong
[16:19] <cjwatson> anyway, I just discussed this with ev in person
[16:20] <didrocks> cjwatson: if I understand correctly, you are afraid of false positive and think it's better to only set a default on a screen when you can change the layout if it doesn't fit, right?
[16:21] <cjwatson> I'm not afraid of false positives, I *know* we will get it wrong a significant percentage of the time :)
[16:21] <cjwatson> we could fiddle with default assumptions, certainly, but we have to have an indicator anyway so that you can override
[16:21] <Riddell> cjwatson: we should publish both
[16:21] <didrocks> cjwatson: fair enough then :)
[16:22] <didrocks> and that will enable changing for setting a passphrase with the correct layout too, so fine with me
[16:22] <cjwatson> us
[16:22] <cjwatson> uh
[16:22] <cjwatson> didrocks: the keyboard layout is asked properly before passphrase
[16:22] <cjwatson> so that really isn't an issue already, as far as I know
[16:23] <cjwatson> unless you mean network passphrase
[16:23] <didrocks> cjwatson: sorry, do you mean, in network manager for wifi key?
[16:23] <didrocks> yeah
[16:23] <cjwatson> best be specific about these things :)
[16:23] <didrocks> cjwatson: sorry, I should have been, right :-)
[16:24] <cjwatson> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2004-September/001405.html  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2004-September/002211.html
[16:24] <cjwatson> ^- from last time we tried to infer keyboard layout from language and not provide a way to override :)
[16:24] <GrueMaster> Ok,I am starting on the Ubuntu Dove netbook image.  Live is booting fine, no glaring issues.  Starting installer then off to a meeting.  Will update tracker info when I get back.
[16:25] <Riddell> talking about meetings, do we have a release team meeting today?
[16:25] <didrocks> cjwatson: again, I understand the rational and it's better to play it safe, right :-) In any case, the french loco team have its own respin, so it was more a "for natty" thing
[16:26] <didrocks> cjwatson: I just know now that the rationale is "propose a default on a screen you can override the option"
[16:26] <cjwatson> Riddell: not afaik ...
[16:33] <doko> ScottK, cjwatson: universe still open?
[16:33] <doko> about bug #656926
[16:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 656926 in openocd (Ubuntu) "ftbfs - on maverick fails on armel - sync openocd from debian unstable to universe (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656926
[16:34] <cjwatson> just about
[16:34] <cjwatson> for a bit over 18 more hours
[16:34] <cjwatson> please don't do anything that will take past end of Saturday to build, though
[16:35]  * doko disables the testsuite in gcc-snapshot ...
[16:35] <doko> ;)
[16:56] <doko> hmm, there are now cairo-dock-plugins *and* cairo-dock-plug-ins in maverick ...
[16:58] <slangasek> cjwatson: oh good, it wasn't me then :-)
[17:04] <ScottK> doko: cairo-doc-plugins as no binaries so the duplication doesn't hurt anything.
[17:05] <doko> ScottK: why not remove it and blacklist?
[17:06] <doko> ScottK: didrocks will ask/clearify with upstream
[17:06] <ScottK> OK
[17:07] <ScottK> doko: cairo-dock-plug-ins was never in Debian.  Now that cairo-dock-plugins is in Debian we should probably follow Debian.
[17:10] <doko> cjwatson: I just see that libgpiv3 still depends on libhdf5-serial-1.6.6-0 | libhdf5-1.6.6-0 on armel, but it's not shown in NBS
[17:11] <cjwatson> which one of those packages should be in NBS?
[17:12] <doko> libhdf5-serial-1.6.6-0, there's only libhdf5-serial-1.8.4
[17:13] <doko> or maybe I did remove it?
[17:13] <cjwatson> it's already removed
[17:13] <cjwatson> so that would just be libgpiv3 being uninstallable on armel, presumably?
[17:13] <cjwatson> there's no uninstallability report for universe because it takes too long to run :(
[17:13] <doko> yes, currently preparing a no change upload
[17:14] <didrocks> doko: I think the upstream package doesn't agree with the debian maintainer or something like that, I'll try to clarify the situation with them
[17:14] <doko> fun ...
[17:16] <doko> cjwatson: would it be possible to run it manually once a few weeks before release?
[17:19] <cjwatson> doko: I'm not sure.  The last time I tried to run it I got bored after six hours, so I don't actually know how long it would take
[17:29] <ScottK> doko: Will leaving libgpiv in queue for a while block any further work of yours?
[17:29] <doko> ScottK: if you can give back pygpiv later, no
[17:30] <doko> I'll be away soon
[17:32] <ScottK> I'll go ahead and accept it then.
[17:32] <jdstrand> skaet: is there anything more I need to do with bug #656173 in terms of making sure it gets a release note?
[17:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 656173 in libvirt (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "libvirt no longer probes chained backing stores (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656173
[17:33] <jdstrand> (I just updated the bug)
[17:33] <ScottK> (that way I'm not required to remember one more thing for later)
[17:34] <jdstrand> skaet: hi btw :)
[17:59] <cjwatson> hm, kubuntu oem breaks
[18:00] <cjwatson> I think we'll need to fix that in an SRU
[18:00] <cjwatson> (this is different from ara's report, which I couldn't reproduce)
[18:00] <cjwatson> oh, wait - I bet this is only if you have no net access
[18:01] <cjwatson> ... no
[18:01] <ScottK> Doesn't oem need to work on the ISO?
[18:02] <cjwatson> no, because it's typically used by OEMs who are free to apply updates
[18:02] <cjwatson> it's obviously very nice if it does but it's not entirely critical
[18:02] <ScottK> Right.  OK.
[18:03] <cjwatson> http://paste.ubuntu.com/508934/ <- patch
[18:03] <ScottK> Oops.
[19:25] <kees> I'd like to upload a fix for bug 632206. it seems only ubuntustudio ships anything from the wine1.2 package. is this okay to upload?
[19:25] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 632206 in wine1.2 (Ubuntu) "Wine (& Crossover) cannot activate Securom modules after upgrading to Maverick (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/632206
[19:26] <ScottK> kees: I think we're in zero day SRU territory for Ubuntu Studio.
[19:26] <kees> ScottK: as in, it's okay to upload wine1.2 now, or that I should wait?
[19:26] <ScottK> kees: You can upload it to -proposed now.
[19:27] <kees> okay, I will rebuild for -proposed. thanks!
[20:04] <kees> ScottK: okay, it's in proposed. what's the 0-day SRU procedure? (obviously no 7-day delay...)
[20:23] <kees> ScottK: oh, and it seems that Yokozar may have another upload for a full micro release bump. ah, well, either will fix the issue.
[21:13] <slangasek> ^^ apologies for xdeb, this is very late in the coming but it's a needed bugfix to make one of the core features of xdeb introduced this cycle usable for non-trivial cases.  So if someone could review (and hopefully approve) that last minute universe package, I would be grateful
[21:14] <slangasek> ScottK: ^^ you may be the only one around at this hour?
[21:29] <pitti> slangasek: looking
[21:29] <slangasek> pitti: thanks!
[21:29]  * pitti boggles at the debdiff
[21:31] <pitti> slangasek: do you build these sources on linaro, somewhere that doesn't add X-Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed:?
[21:31] <slangasek> pitti: Linaro would add it; I built on Ubuntu; I think the missing X-Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed: is because of the lack of whitespace after the "LP:"
[21:31] <pitti> ok, so launchpad's debdiff isn't lying, the changelog really is that strange
[21:31] <pitti> ah
[21:32] <slangasek> I wasn't sure if that was going to be an issue and didn't check the .changes before upload
[21:32] <pitti> slangasek: just asking because recently I found several uploads in SRUs which didn't have it
[21:32] <pitti> slangasek: we can just close it manually, no big deal; I just wondered if that was due to a different lsb_release or so
[21:32] <slangasek> not in this case
[21:32] <slangasek> I have from time to time been known to accidentally build my source packages in Debian instead of Ubuntu, but not this time :)
[21:34] <pitti> slangasek: in the aptutils.py there might be a missing "if options.debug:", FYI
[21:35] <slangasek> pitti: I know that message is being printed out in non-debug mode, and didn't consider it a problem
[21:35] <slangasek> (it's not my code, or I'd be a bit more decisive with my answer)
[21:37] <pitti> 'k, accepted
[21:37] <slangasek> thanks!
[21:37] <pitti> ah, my wife returs home, which means -> good night!
[21:37] <slangasek> 'night :)
[21:37] <pitti> will get online tomorrow morning, in case we need more help
[21:37]  * slangasek goes back to evil hacks to allow cross-bootstrapping under qemu-arm-static
[21:38] <slangasek> incidentally, there are two uploads in the queue, dkms and edubuntu-artwork, that obviously imply respins... anyone know if those are meant to be accepted/rejected?
[21:45] <ara> night pitti!
[23:39] <ScottK> slangasek or cjwatson: I've been leaving two Universe packages in the queue in case you need to stimulate a publisher run.  I've been ~offline most of the day, so don't have any state about where we are WRT potential respins.  Please let me know when you think we're past that so I can go ahead and accept them.
[23:40] <slangasek> ScottK: I think you should go ahead and accept them; there shouldn't be any more seed/task changes now
[23:40] <ScottK> slangasek: Thanks.  Will do.
[23:41] <ScottK> Done.
[23:52] <ScottK> slangasek: I think we should also get rid of the release pocket version of edubuntu-artwork in queue and assume it's the -proposed one that will get used.
[23:52] <ScottK> Queue is all -proposed now.