[00:19] <FlyingFoX> valorie: I like to operate my own sync server and afaik I can't do that with chromium.
[00:20] <valorie> FlyingFoX: for sure
[00:20] <valorie> google likes to keep everything in their own house
[01:34] <mordak> join #bash
[01:34] <mordak> #join bash
[01:45] <skreech_> try /join
[04:38] <FlyingFoX> is there a way to make the back button on my mouse work in dolphin?
[05:40] <hananan> hi
[05:45] <skreech_> hi
[08:16] <Guest23551> kk
[08:17] <kubuntu> kk
[08:17] <kubuntu> ll
[08:17] <Guest90095> ææ
[08:17] <Guest90095> ll
[08:18] <Guest90095> hh
[08:18] <Daskreech> hi
[09:37] <cortexA9> congrats for the daily build.
[09:39] <cortexA9> there is a problem when i'm going in sleep mode.
[12:12] <anton02> how do u change the look of gtk apps in kde?
[12:14] <tsimpson> anton02: System Settings -> Application Appearance -> GTK
[12:14] <anton02> i dont have kubuntu, i have arch
[12:15] <bazhang> #archlinux anton02
[12:15] <anton02> thanks
[12:15] <bazhang> np
[12:17] <tsimpson> it should be the same either way
[12:18] <anton02> your instructions were valid after installing kde-gtk-config
[12:26] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[12:38] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[13:20] <NickBraschi> hello there. Is anyone familiar with openSSL for win32?
[13:22] <tsimpson> NickBraschi: wrong channel
[13:27] <NickBraschi> which do u recomand?
[13:50] <Daskreech> hi lordievader
[13:51]  * Daskreech waves at BluesKaj
[13:52] <BluesKaj> hey Daskreech
[15:32] <Guest14892> Help installing kubuntu 13.04 on Lenova g580. grub-efi failed
[15:32] <Guest14892> I am now on a live DVD.
[15:35] <littlegirl> Guest37542: Is http://askubuntu.com/questions/292230/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-lenovo-g580 of any use?
[15:54] <Perossido> Hello, I have a little problem and maybe you can help.
[15:54] <Perossido> I'm trying to add this repository http://packages.sil.org/
[15:55] <Perossido> I have a kubuntu 12.04
[15:56] <Perossido> If I follow the instructions and download the repository key, I get a .gpg file
[15:56] <Perossido> but then, from Muon Package Manager
[15:56] <Perossido> in Software Sources > Authentication
[15:56] <Perossido> Import Key File
[15:57] <Perossido> I cannot import it, because it wants "PGP Keys", and doesn't show the file that I downloaded
[15:57] <Perossido> What am I doing wrong?
[15:57] <Perossido> I there is anybody alive in here
[15:57] <Perossido> *if
[16:14] <Ossido> Is there somebody around to answer a question?
[16:16] <DMiller> grub-efi failed on kubuntu13.04
[16:17] <DMiller> Help: grub-efi failed on kubuntu13.04. Lenove G580
[16:19] <DMiller> Help: grub-efi failed on kubuntu13.04. Lenova G580. Anybody?
[20:44] <Roey> hey all, why am I getting this when I run flux: 1123 Pennsylvania Avenue Southeast
[20:44] <Roey> Washington, DC 20003
[20:44] <Roey> meh
[20:44] <Roey> hey all, why am I getting this when I run flux: http://pastebin.com/mAjcvHaW
[20:44] <Roey> BluesKaj, other kubuntu folks:
[20:50] <Daskreech> Roey: lol Washington is watching you!!!!
[20:50] <Daskreech> Beware the DC!
[20:50] <Roey> hahahaha
[20:50] <Roey> (m'yeah :( )
[20:51] <Daskreech> Looks likesome Gtk setting is off?
[20:53] <Roey> would hope not?
[20:53] <BluesKaj> my memory is playing tricks maybe , but isn't canberra-gtk-module a restricted package ?
[20:53] <Roey> Daskreech:  btw HI, I always like chatting with you
[20:53] <Daskreech> hi Roey :)
[20:54] <Roey> Daskreech:  aha.... I see that it was not installed
[20:54] <Roey> so I am installing it now
[20:54] <Daskreech> That would explain not being able to find it
[20:54] <Roey> aha
[20:55]  * Daskreech hi fives BluesKaj
[20:56] <Roey> Daskreech, BluesKaj: Okay, now when I run it, it just says "fluxgui is already running, exiting"
[20:56] <Daskreech>  kill any fluxgui processes
[20:58] <Roey> Daskreech:  it's not running
[20:58] <Roey> Daskreech:  when I do ps aux | grep flux, I see nothin
[20:58] <Roey> g.
[20:58] <Daskreech> bleah. Probably set a tempfile that's not been cleared
[20:58] <Roey> that's what I Thought too,
[20:58] <Roey> so I checked ~/
[20:59] <Roey> for dot-files, found none;
[20:59] <Roey> I also checked /var/run, didn't find antyhing there.
[20:59] <BluesKaj> gparted lies , it says it can crerate UFS partitions , but when I try to do so , the UFS option is blanked out on the live cd
[21:00] <Daskreech> Roey: checked /tmp ?
[21:00] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: May need a module.
[21:00] <Roey> fluxgui_roey.pid
[21:01] <BluesKaj> Daskreech,` which module
[21:01] <Roey> BluesKaj:  Daskreech:  so, great!  Now I see i get a different error: http://pastebin.com/vx1fqpjZ
[21:01] <BluesKaj> can't seem to find much on google
[21:01] <Daskreech> Not sure. That would have been my guess.  It can't do ntfs checks etc either unless it has the tools
[21:01] <Roey> Oh.  I get it now.  Your nick is blue-sky
[21:01] <Roey> ahahah.
[21:03] <Daskreech> do you have GNome-settings process running ?
[21:07] <Roey> Daskreech:  no
[21:07] <Daskreech> http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=14833 BluesKaj Apparently it is lying
[21:07] <Daskreech> Roey: if it's checking Gtk settings you probably want to have that running
[21:07] <Roey> ok
[21:08] <Roey> meh
[21:08] <Roey> I'd have to install that then
[21:08] <Roey> thanks Daskreech!
[21:08] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, yeah < just read that url
[21:09] <Daskreech> Ask for docs to clearly say that it's not supported on unsupported platforms
[21:37] <BluesKaj> !mini
[21:38] <amundsen> hi
[21:38] <amundsen> i'm having a problem in my kubuntu box
[21:39] <amundsen> time display is not as it should be
[21:39] <amundsen> i mean, it shows 2 hours less than it should
[21:39] <amundsen> it's 23.39 here and it shows 21.39
[21:40] <amundsen> this is happening for the last trhee days
[21:44] <BluesKaj> amundsen, turn the auto time server off you clock date and time settings ...that what works for me , and set the time zone to a major city in your time zone
[21:45] <amundsen> BluesKaj: thx
[21:45] <amundsen> i'm going to make a try
[21:46] <BluesKaj> amundsen, there's a bug in the automatic time set server afaik,
[21:47] <amundsen> BluesKaj: a problem with the kde app or with the server ?
[21:48] <Snowhog> amundsen: You might be experiencing this: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/content.php?166-Is-your-clock-off-by-probably-an-hour-Help-Kubuntu-devs-create-a-fix
[21:52] <BluesKaj> the server , amundsen afaik
[21:53] <BluesKaj> Snowhog, mine was off by 5 hrs til dropped the auto time server
[21:54] <amundsen> BluesKaj: thx
[21:55] <Snowhog> BluesKaj: Interesting. I have Set date and time automatically checked (set to north-america.pool.ntp.org) and I don't have any problems with time at all.
[21:56] <Roey> um
[21:56] <Roey> yeah
[21:56] <Roey> I had that same issue.
[21:56] <Roey> I solved it though.
[21:56] <Roey> I've since re-enabled NTP
[21:57] <BluesKaj> Roey, what i posted above is what works here
[21:57] <Roey> ok
[21:57] <Roey> thanks.
[21:58] <Roey> Also, is your nick prounounced "Blue Sky" ?
[22:00] <BluesKaj> nope , Blues Ky
[22:00] <BluesKaj> it's just a play on words
[22:01] <BluesKaj> still rhymes with sky tho
[22:02] <BluesKaj> ok , gotta go
[22:34] <abdullahi> hi
[22:34] <abdullahi> all..
[22:35] <BluesKaj> hey
[22:47] <Johnny_Linux> are you another nic that is here and away 500 times a day that never says anything ?
[22:54] <surf_man> Hi all
[22:55] <surf_man> how do i install python 2.7 on the new ubuntu? ...
[23:49] <Guest65804> i installed the steam.deb, and steam ran the first time... but now when I try to run it, it says STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automatically, and then returns the prompt.... I found directions online that said to run apt-get remove steam; and then reinstall it, but when I run that, apt tells me I dont have steam installed....
[23:50] <Guest65804> which steam returns /usr/bin/steam, so clearly it is installed...
[23:51] <Jonathan__> does anyone know how to install k9copy from the terminal in Kubuntu?
[23:56] <wylde> Jonathan__: sudo apt-get install k9copy?


[07:07] <pstolowski> morning trainguards! any idea why silo 27 failed on dependencies https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-027/+build/7767209 on ppc and arm but built fine on others? https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-027/+packages
[07:10] <pstolowski> moreover, the status of the silo in citrain says all has been built fine, but ppa status disagrees?
[07:26] <Mirv> pstolowski: unity8 hasn't ever built for arm64 powerpc ppc64el, therefore train thinks it's ok. like it says, dependencies are missing.
[07:26] <Mirv> pstolowski: note armhf built fine, just arm64 didn't
[07:28] <pstolowski> Mirv, hmm, so all is fine with that silo?
[07:47] <Mirv> pstolowski: looks so
[07:47] <pstolowski> Mirv, yeah, thanks for explaining!
[07:48] <sil2100> So... so hot!
[07:49] <sil2100> Mirv, davmor2, ogra_, popey: I would opt for skipping todays morning meeting, not much to discuss
[07:49] <ogra_> +1
[07:49] <sil2100> And I would have to put something on me for the hangout
[07:52] <Mirv> ogra_: ok then
[07:52] <Mirv> sil2100: please don't share more
[07:52] <Mirv> (although, likewise)
[07:56] <popey> GO TEAM PYJAMAS!
[07:56] <sil2100> ;)
[07:57] <ogra_> bathrobe rockers please :)
[07:58] <ogra_> sil2100, hmm now the armhf build has dependency issues too
[07:58] <ogra_> failing on obexd-server
[08:00] <sil2100> huh?
[08:03] <sil2100> ogra_: anyway, looking into that
[08:03] <sil2100> Thanks for the heads up!
[08:04] <ogra_> UH !
[08:04] <ogra_> so the ubuntu-system-settings landing sits on top of wily packages ?
[08:05] <ogra_> (at least that is what the changelog suggests)
[08:06] <ogra_> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/213772726/ubuntu-system-settings_0.3%2B15.04.20150806-0ubuntu1_source.changes
[08:06] <ogra_>  ubuntu-system-settings (0.3+15.10.20150804-0ubuntu1) wily; urgency=medium
[08:06] <sil2100> ogra_: yeah, dual landings work like that
[08:06] <sil2100> We don't re-write history, just the top most changelog entry
[08:06] <ogra_> well, do you also not re-write dependencies ?
[08:07] <ogra_> pulling in the wily bluetooth deps might indeed explain this
[08:07] <ogra_> (assuming they are different)
[08:08] <sil2100> No, it's the lander that needs to make sure the deps are sane on both platforms
[08:09] <sil2100> The recent u-s-s upload didn't have any packaging changes
[08:09] <sil2100> But maybe the one before that
[08:09] <sil2100> Need to dig into the changes for that
[08:09] <davmor2> sil2100: you can just turn off the camera like ogra_ does ;)
[08:10] <ogra_> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/213772795/ubuntu-system-settings_0.3%2B15.04.20150413-0ubuntu1_0.3%2B15.04.20150806-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
[08:10] <ogra_> -         qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-settings-components (>> 0.2),
[08:10] <ogra_> +         qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-settings-components (>> 0.6),
[08:10] <ogra_> thats the only possibly relevant dependency change
[08:10] <sil2100> Launchpad doesn't work for me right now
[08:10] <sil2100> ugh
[08:11] <sil2100> ogra_: the overlay has 0.6+15.04.20150716-0ubuntu1 of that package
[08:12] <ogra_> yeah, and there doesnt seem to be anything that could break it like that
[08:12] <ogra_> its not that
[08:13] <sil2100> https://lists.launchpad.net/landing-team-changes/msg00368.html <- maybe this landing was responsible?
[08:13] <sil2100> As it's trying to install ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts
[08:13] <ogra_> but it most likely is system-settings related ... i386 has the same error (on top of the old dep issue)
[08:14] <ogra_> * No-change test rebuild for g++5 ABI transition
[08:14] <ogra_> huh ??
[08:14] <ogra_> oh
[08:14] <ogra_> the wily changelog confused me again
[08:14] <sil2100> Don't worry about the changelog
[08:15] <sil2100> hm, no dep changes there through
[08:15] <sil2100> *though
[08:15] <ogra_> sil2100, if i wouldnt know better, i'd say the seed change from wily landed in vivid
[08:15] <ogra_> but thats not possible
[08:16] <sil2100> Nothing like that landed: https://lists.launchpad.net/landing-team-changes/
[08:18] <sil2100> Ok, I'll try digging into that on my device
[08:18] <ogra_> no, but we also have security and updates enabled during build
[08:18] <sil2100> Yes, but nothing landed there too re: the seeds
[08:18] <sil2100> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-touch-meta
[08:19] <ogra_> right
[08:24] <sil2100> I think I'm getting close to the problem
[08:28] <sil2100> hah, ok, see the problem...
[08:28] <sil2100> ogra_: so the problem is in libtimezonemap1 (from the libtimezonemap source)
[08:28] <sil2100> ogra_: u-s-s was built against the version in -proposed
[08:29] <sil2100> ogra_: since we build out silos with -proposed enabled, and the new libtimezonemap still didn't migrate
[08:29] <ogra_> ah !
[08:29] <sil2100> So u-s-s is uninstallable with other packages... we need to migrate it
[08:29] <sil2100> There's no hard dep, but the binary packages depend on it as that's what it was built against
[08:29] <ogra_> indeed
[08:29] <sil2100> <IP_ADDRESS> - this needs to go out, let me check excuses
[08:30] <ogra_> on a sidenote wily i386 fails too ...
[08:30] <ogra_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:30] <ogra_>  ubuntu-touch : Depends: qtmir-android but it is not going to be installed
[08:30] <ogra_>                 Depends: qtubuntu-android but it is not going to be installed
[08:30] <ogra_> (probably not that urgent :) )
[08:31] <sil2100> ogra_: yeah, didn't have time for that yet ;) Since emulator is b0rken anyway
[08:31] <ogra_> wily ... not vivid though ...
[08:32] <ogra_> (not sure if the emulator was broken there too, now it clearly is though :) )
[08:33] <sil2100> hmmm, we need to somehow resolve this, I might even consider copying this package to the overlay
[08:33] <sil2100> Since it still needs to wait a bit in the SRU queue
[08:33] <sil2100> Building against -proposed in the case of an already released series is not a good idea ;)
[08:33] <ogra_> yeah
[08:34] <ogra_> at least if your silos dont have proposed-migration too :)
[08:34] <sil2100> seb128: would you mind me copying over the binaries of libtimezonemap from -proposed to the overlay? :)
[08:34] <seb128> sil2100, please do
[08:34] <seb128> unsure what's the issue
[08:34] <sil2100> ogra_: true ;p ALthough we would have a slightly different -proposed pocket anyway
[08:34] <ogra_> seb128, dep issues
[08:34] <seb128> the soname didn't change, why is u-s-s having an updated depends?
[08:35] <ogra_> seb128, silos buld against proposed but their packages dont go through the migration
[08:35] <seb128> like no public interface changed
[08:35] <sil2100> seb128: u-s-s built against the libtimezonemap in -proposed, not sure why it actually hard-depped the binary deps
[08:36] <sil2100> It's certainly something worth looking into, but generally copying the package is much faster
[08:36] <seb128> ah
[08:36] <seb128> DEB_DH_MAKESHLIBS_ARGS = -V
[08:36] <ogra_> there you go :)
[08:36] <sil2100> Oh man, I hate that one
[08:36] <seb128> that package always update its shlibs to current
[08:36] <sil2100> I once got yelled at for sigining off a package with this in the old times
[08:40] <sil2100> Packages copied, I'll re-kick the image build in a moment
[08:40] <ogra_> yay
[10:08] <pstolowski> sil2100, hey, we have failure on version check https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-005-1-build/176/console, presumably because we're trying to land in vivid overlay only. what is the best course of action?
[10:09] <sil2100> Let me take a look
[10:09] <pstolowski> sil2100, we have single trunk for both wily and vivid
[10:09] <pstolowski> sil2100, and i don't want to dual land atm due to the issues
[10:09] <sil2100> Ah, yeah...
[10:10] <sil2100> This is a bit troublesome in overall, since we really wouldn't like to garbage the devel trunk with vivid commits
[10:10] <sil2100> Since then there would be one big inconsistency if you want to get back to releasing for wily from trunk
[10:11] <pstolowski> sil2100, hmm. would bumping to 0.3 be an option?
[10:12] <sil2100> No no, this would be just dodging the check, but the trunk would still be inconsistent
[10:12] <sil2100> I would recommend to do something like this:
[10:13] <sil2100> Branch off current trunk to some 15.04 branch, change (by a direct push to the 15.04 trunk) the top most debian/changelog entry to include 15.04 in its version number instead of 15.10 and use that branch instead
[10:13] <sil2100> Once dual landings are back, you can simply drop using the 15.04 branch completely
[10:13] <sil2100> And do everything from trunk once again
[10:14] <sil2100> But at least this way trunk will be consistent and not go back in time with releases
[10:15] <pstolowski> sil2100, ah, i see, thanks for explaining. will try to do that
[10:17] <pstolowski> sil2100, also need to s/wily/vivid/ in that topmost changelog entry?
[10:17] <sil2100> pstolowski: yw! I know it's a bit of work, but we already have so much things that the train does wrong that I would at least like to keep all trunk branches 'sacred'
[10:17] <sil2100> pstolowski: you could do that, yes, not required but will add to the consistency
[10:17] <sil2100> :)
[10:18] <pstolowski> heh, interesting view on consistency ;)
[10:20] <pstolowski> jamesh, ^ gyi
[10:20] <pstolowski> fyi even
[12:44] <greyback_> davmor2: hey, I suspect silo10 has slipped through the spreadsheet->bileto transition, ca you please add it to your trello board?
[12:50] <davmor2> sil2100: ^
[12:51] <sil2100> greyback_: let me take a look
[12:51] <sil2100> greyback_: ok, so it's there, but it's not set as 'Ready for QA'
[12:51] <sil2100> greyback_: once you're done with testing you need to mark that it's ready for QA sign-off
[12:52] <sil2100> greyback_: like in the spreadsheet, just the fields are called differently
[13:01] <greyback_> sil2100: davmor2 oh wow, sorry, I totally missed that
[13:01] <greyback_> I thought it said ready for QA
[13:02] <davmor2> greyback_: no worries
[13:17] <bfiller> rvr: silo 4 has fix for gallery not starting up if you have time to test it
[13:19] <rvr> bfiller: Thanks! Busy with other things right now. If not me, someone else will take it for sure :)
[13:19] <bfiller> rvr: great, thanks
[13:21] <pstolowski> sil2100, heeeeeelp
[13:22] <sil2100> pstolowski: what's up?
[13:22] <pstolowski> sil2100, made a 'temporary' trunk, here is the MP https://code.launchpad.net/~stolowski/unity-scope-mediascanner/audio-card/+merge/267325
[13:22] <pstolowski> sil2100, the silo still fails https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-005-1-build/181/console
[13:22] <sil2100> hm, let me seee
[13:22] <pstolowski> sil2100, i have no idea where 0.5.4+15.10.20150707-0ubuntu1 comes from
[13:23] <pstolowski> sil2100, here is the changelog of the 15.04-trunk http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity-scope-mediascanner/trunk-15.04/view/head:/debian/changelog where i changed 15.10 to 15.04
[13:24] <sil2100> Let me look deeper what's going on
[13:25] <sil2100> pstolowski: oh, but it's failing for unity-scopes-shell
[13:25] <sil2100> pstolowski: the branches you showed me are for unity-scope-mediascanner - you need to do the same for unity-scopes-shell ;)
[13:27] <pstolowski> sil2100, uh, oh, indeed, ovelooked it, sorry
[13:28] <pstolowski> sil2100, but that's weird, yesterday i succesfully built unity-scopes-shell in silo 27 without needing to do that
[13:28] <pstolowski> and it was only vivid too
[13:29] <sil2100> Interesting
[13:30] <sil2100> btw. we need to reconf the silo to target the overlay
[13:30] <sil2100> Since now it's targeting the main vivid archive
[13:30] <pstolowski> sil2100, oh, which one, 27?
[13:30] <sil2100> pstolowski: 005
[13:30] <sil2100> I changed it, reconfiguring now
[13:31] <pstolowski> sil2100, hmm, and why not 27, it looks the same in bileto?
[13:31] <sil2100> I don't know, you showed me links for silo 005
[13:31] <sil2100> So I thought you're working on 005?
[13:32] <pstolowski> sil2100, yes, i'm working on 5 now, but as i said, yesterday i built unity-scopes-shell in silo 27 (which is supposed to target vivid-overlay)
[13:32] <sil2100> 15:22 < pstolowski> sil2100, the silo still fails https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-005-1-build/181/console <- so I wanted to reconfigure this silo to target the overlay
[13:32] <greyback_> sil2100: can dual silos still land?
[13:33] <sil2100> I can reconf 27 too as well if it's not for overlay
[13:33] <sil2100> greyback_: if you're able to test your silo against wily then yes ;p ;p
[13:33] <greyback_> sil2100: right so ;)
[13:34] <pstolowski> sil2100, both 5 and 27 should target vivid-overlay, i was assuming that when 'vivid' is slected in bileto, it will actually be vivid-overlay?
[13:34] <sil2100> pstolowski: no
[13:34] <sil2100> pstolowski: since bileto still needs to enable people to land stuff as SRUs, right?
[13:34] <pstolowski> sil2100, hmm right
[13:35] <pstolowski> sil2100, then please reconfigure both 5 and 27
[13:35] <sil2100> pstolowski: so to get something landed to overlay, you select vivid and then 'Destination PPA' select the overlay (it should be available as a auto-complete option)
[13:35] <sil2100> On it :)
[13:35]  * pstolowski is back to square one after 2 days of fight with silo 27 :(
[13:36] <sil2100> No rebuild required!
[13:36] <sil2100> At least not for the retargetting
[13:36] <pstolowski> sil2100, ah, cool
[13:36] <sil2100> :)
[13:36] <pstolowski> sil2100, changelog versions etc not affected?
[13:36] <sil2100> Should be good now
[13:37] <sil2100> pstolowski: right, we're using the same versioning for overlay and vivid for the train
[13:43] <sil2100> huh?
[13:43] <pstolowski> sil2100, i haven't updated scopes-shell
[13:43] <pstolowski> on it
[13:44] <sil2100> Ah :)
[13:51] <pstolowski> :(
[13:52] <pstolowski> sil2100, it's complaining about unity8 version now... that brings back the question why it worked in another silo yesterday where i built both unity-scopes-shell and unity8
[13:53] <sil2100> pstolowski: are you sure it wasn't because it was a dualo silo then?
[13:53] <sil2100> Let me check the logs
[13:53] <pstolowski> sil2100, it was dual silo originally. then i change to vivid only and reconfigured
[13:54] <sil2100> pstolowski: probably the build happened when it was a dual silo still or something
[13:55] <pstolowski> sil2100, no, not possible, actually you changed the silo for me yesterday, the new one was vivid from the start
[13:55] <sil2100> Looking at the logs
[13:57] <sil2100> pstolowski: ah... yeah, it worked for silo 27 as you changed the upstream version to 0.5.5
[13:57] <sil2100> pstolowski: which camouflaged the issue
[13:58] <sil2100> Damn, this would mean you'll release a 15.04 version to trunk with that merge... eh
[13:58] <pstolowski> wonderful
[13:58] <sil2100> Well, I suppose we could live with that
[13:58] <sil2100> Don't want to force you rebuilding that silo, just remember it will introduce some uglyiness to your main trunk
[13:59] <pstolowski> sil2100, in that case i'd prefer to re-target to our temporary trunk
[14:00] <sil2100> I suppose no re-test would be needed as it's the same contents
[14:14] <oSoMoN> trainguards: is it a known issue that autopkgtests for qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu are failing and blocking migration of a number of packages in wily?
[14:15] <sil2100> oSoMoN: yes
[14:15] <sil2100> oSoMoN: it's caused by seeds
[14:15] <oSoMoN> sil2100, is there anything we can do about it? This prevents building new silos for e.g. webbrowser-app, because the jenkins job complains that webbrowser-app 0.23+15.10.20150729-0ubuntu2~gcc5.1 is missing from the changelog
[14:15] <sil2100> oSoMoN: we need new seeds updated and uploaded
[14:16] <sil2100> oSoMoN: hm, I think it's a different case here
[14:17] <sil2100> oSoMoN: so unblocking webbrowser-app from -proposed won't help, as this upload was anyway a direct upload
[14:17] <sil2100> oSoMoN: what needs to be done is:
[14:17] <sil2100> oSoMoN: first, let's double check if 0.23+15.10.20150729-0ubuntu2~gcc5.1 was a no-change rebuild for gcc
[14:18] <sil2100> oSoMoN: if that's the case and we're not missing any real changes, two things can be done:
[14:19] <sil2100> oSoMoN: first, the clean but longer method would be to take the missing changelog entries, adding them to the webbrowser-app trunk (by a direct bzr push to trunk) and then rebuilding the webbrowser-app silos
[14:19] <sil2100> oSoMoN: second, faster but less cleaner, is simply using the FORCE_REBUILD flag while building, but that will simply override and ignore this changelog entry missing
[14:19] <sil2100> Which is not super nice, but since it's a no-change rebuild, no one will cry for not having it in the changelog
[14:20] <oSoMoN> sil2100, ok, I’ll take the first option and add the missing changelog entry to trunk
[14:20] <oSoMoN> sil2100, thanks for the help!
[14:20] <sil2100> oSoMoN: no problem! Any of the two is fine, but yeah ;)
[14:43] <dobey> sigh, so many test regressions in proposed
[14:58] <dobey> hmm, i wonder why so many of these packages didn't get picked up and rebuilt in the gcc5 silo ppa
[15:10] <pmcgowan> jhodapp, how's your silo 21 coming along?
[15:10] <jhodapp> pmcgowan, actually silo 38 now :)
[15:10] <jhodapp> pmcgowan, it's building everything now and if it succeeds, I'll do a quick local sanity check again...if I'm happy it'll be ready for QA
[15:11] <pmcgowan> great davmor2 alecu ^^
[15:12] <alecu> pmcgowan: thanks
[15:13] <jhodapp> davmor2, alecu: so to test this, you'll just go through the listed test plan, which is for media-hub. We want to make sure that no existing use cases are broken.
[15:14] <davmor2> jhodapp: I'm going to disappear in a minute but reappear later
[15:14] <jhodapp> davmor2, no worries, it's not ready to test yet anyway
[15:14] <davmor2> so more likely monday morning then
[15:15] <jhodapp> that's perfect...I'll send you an email confirming that it's ready for you on Monday morning
[15:22] <sil2100> cihelp: hey! Could we get qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu autopkgtests re-run?
[15:22] <sil2100> cihelp: who should I poke regarding those? We landed a seed change that should help
[15:23] <sil2100> http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/q/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/wily/amd64/ (and i386)
[15:24] <fginther> sil2100, I have no idea how to rerun those. Is pitti or jibel available? ^
[15:24] <sil2100> jibel is off on holidays, might look for pitti in this case
[15:24] <sil2100> fginther: thanks!
[15:24] <fginther> sil2100, or maybe infinity? ^
[15:29] <alecu> pstolowski: jhodapp gave a status of the silo we depend on, a few lines above ^^^
[15:32] <pstolowski> alecu, great, thanks
[15:35] <pstolowski> alecu, we have no clarity what to do with unity8 atm (in terms of branching), i discussed this with tsdgeos but we will wait for monday when other unity8 guys are back
[15:39] <sil2100> Mirv: do you have the power to re-run autopkgtests still?
[15:39] <jhodapp> tsdgeos, also, give silo 38 a try with your music-scope changes
[15:40] <tsdgeos> jhodapp: pstolowski was giving it a go i think
[15:40] <jhodapp> tsdgeos, ok great
[15:40] <jhodapp> I'm also testing it right now
[15:40] <tsdgeos> i'm trying to fix/debug a crash in unity8 startup
[15:40] <jhodapp> not the scope stuff, but silo 38
[15:40] <pstolowski> jhodapp, we planned to, but i got stuck with the build issues (may need to have separate trunks for all projects involved)
[15:42] <jhodapp> pstolowski, build issue for the music-scope silo?
[15:43] <pstolowski> jhodapp, yes (silo 5)
[15:43] <jhodapp> ok
[15:45] <abeato> trainguards, I am getting a signature error that I do not understand: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-057-1-build/2/console
[15:46] <sil2100> abeato: hey! The problem is different
[15:46] <sil2100> 2015-08-07 15:39:54,683 ERROR dch: fatal error at line 1141:
[15:46] <sil2100> New version specified (0.108+15.04.20150807-0ubuntu1) is less than
[15:46] <sil2100> the current version number (0.108+15.10.20150807-0ubuntu1)!  Use -b to force.
[15:46] <sil2100> You need to branch trunk for an older ubuntu series, or do a sync silo from a newer release to an older release.
[15:47] <abeato> sil2100, hmm, ok... when I select vivid in the citrain, that's vivid-overlay?
[15:47] <sil2100> abeato: no, you need to also add info about the overlay in the 'Destination PPA', it should be in the autocomplete there
[15:48] <sil2100> But reconfiguring it doesn't require a rebuild
[15:48] <sil2100> Just change it and reconfigure your silo
[15:48] <abeato> ok, thanks
[15:50] <abeato> sil2100, so I select the overlay ppa and keep the target series to "vivid"?
[15:50] <sil2100> Yes
[15:50] <abeato> ok
[15:51] <abeato> sil2100, I also want to sync a package from https://launchpad.net/~canonical-arm-dev/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages
[15:51] <abeato> I have used ppa:~canonical-arm-dev/ubuntu/ppa,vivid as sync source
[15:51] <abeato> is that right?
[15:55] <abeato> sil2100, also I am nit sure about what how to reconfigure: does editing the entry+saving does it?
[15:55] <sil2100> abeato: after you edit the entry and click save, simply click the 'Assign' button once again (as if reassigning) and proceed
[15:55]  * sil2100 looks if the docs are updated for that
[15:56] <abeato> sil2100, ok, got it
[15:58] <sil2100> abeato: just in case it's needed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain/LandingProcess#Modifying_your_existing_landing
[16:00] <abeato> sil2100, great, I'll take a look
[16:01] <abeato> sil2100, what about the sync I want to do? should it work or I need somebody else to copy the package around (pulseaudio)?
[16:01] <sil2100> abeato: pulseaudio hmm... you'd have to ask a trainguard or a core-dev to help with the sync
[16:01] <sil2100> Since it's a non-train package
[16:01] <abeato> ok
[16:11] <sil2100> ogra_: ugh, forgot to kick a new rc-proposed build
[16:11] <sil2100> Kicking now
[16:11] <ogra_> kick it then :)
[16:11] <ogra_> like beckham ;)
[16:15] <jhodapp> davmor2, vivid doesn't boot after installing the silo...figuring that out now
[16:48] <boiko> robru: hi, you can go ahead and free silo 29, alreadu assigned silo 58 using the requests page
[16:53] <pmcgowan> davmor2, what was fixed in the new device tarballs?
[16:55] <sil2100> o/
[17:05] <davmor2> pmcgowan: user wipe mode changes mostly but I think it still needs the the one silo to land too but I'll hit that after, for now it just didn't break anything.
[17:06] <pmcgowan> davmor2, thanks
[17:10] <robru> boiko: thanks!
[17:36] <dobey> so it's just autopilot-gtk, and kde, blocking the gcc5 transition now, it seems
[17:38] <bregma> di dual landings build separately for each target (eg. wily and overlay), or is it a binary copy?
[17:38] <bregma> *do*
[17:45] <davmor2> robru: silo 48 is mark for qa but it is a wily only build so can I throw it back to you please
[17:46] <robru> davmor2: lemme see
[17:46] <robru> davmor2: alright then
[17:47] <davmor2> robru: ta
[17:47] <robru> Mirv: morphis what's going on in silo 48? why was a wily silo marked as needing QA?
[17:49] <dobey> bregma: seems it is not exactly a copy, as each gets different version numbers generated
[17:50] <dobey> bregma: so different source packages, but only one ends up getting committed to the vcs upon landing
[17:50] <jhodapp> robru, can you please dput qtmultimedia from ppa:jhodapp/ubuntu/ppa to silo 38
[17:52] <dobey> meh, right; devel-proposed doesn't include wily-proposed
[17:54] <robru> jhodapp: sure, one sec
[17:55] <robru> jhodapp: uh, "a different source with the same version is published in the destination archive"
[17:56] <jhodapp> robru, do I have to bump the pkg version each time?
[17:56] <robru> jhodapp: yeah 1ubuntu4 is already in there, you'll need to upload a new 1ubuntu5 then
[17:56] <jhodapp> ok great, one min
[17:56] <robru> jhodapp: yes! you can't go around having multiple different source packages with the same version number, silly. that defeats the point of having version numbers.
[17:56] <jhodapp> well sure, but I never released the last one so thought it may not matter
[17:58] <robru> jhodapp: PPAs are basically the same thing as the ubuntu archive. for all intents and purposes putting it in the PPA is "releasing" it, it's just not in the blessed archive that users download from.
[17:58] <jhodapp> robru, ack
[18:00] <jhodapp> robru, ok try again
[18:01] <robru> ok
[18:02] <robru> jhodapp: alright it's in there, you can do a WATCH_ONLY now
[18:02] <jhodapp> awesome thanks!
[18:19] <dobey> hmm, requests seems out of sync with my silo
[18:20] <robru> dobey: uh, I just hit publish, I hope you don't mean there's something missing from the PPA
[18:20] <robru> dobey: what's out of sync? same MPs are listed
[18:20] <dobey> robru: no. the ppa is built and all
[18:21] <dobey> robru: it says "Building" but the packages have been built for hours
[18:21] <dobey> robru: and when i just set it to "publish without qa" i noticed that someone had apparently set it to "dual" and "qa required" (which were both incorrect)
[18:21] <robru> dobey: dashboard should be considered authoritative there. sometimes network issues make the status update in bileto fail.
[18:22] <dobey> well now it's correct for the publishing state at least
[18:22] <dobey> weird
[18:23] <robru> dobey: as for the other thing, I guess it's possible somebody else was editing your row. not sure who though
[18:25] <dobey> yeah. would be nice to have visible history there
[18:27] <robru> dobey: that would have to wait for v2 I'm afraid ;-)
[18:54] <dobey> hmm, i guess sil didn't get anywhere with asking for the qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu autopkgtests rebuilds
[19:02] <robru> michi: you forgot to check ONLY_FREE_SILO
[19:18] <robru> michi: I'm also freeing silo 41 since the MP in there was released in your other silo that published.
[20:01] <jhodapp> robru, alright, got another qtmultimedia change to dput from ppa:jhodapp/ubuntu/ppa to silo 38 please (hopefully this should be the last one)
[20:02] <jhodapp> robru, actually hold off on that for now
[20:07] <jhodapp> robru, ok yes, please dput that
[20:24] <robru> jhodapp: alright, copied
[20:44] <jhodapp> robru, thanks
[20:45] <robru> jhodapp: you're welcome
[21:41] <michi> robru: thanks. I abandoned some silos, but didn’t know that this isn’t sufficient
[21:47] <robru> michi: no worries. the 'Abandon' link in requests.c.u.c is mostly for if you don't have a silo assigned already, like if you created two requests by mistake.
[21:47] <michi> Ah, I see.
[21:48] <michi> So, what should I do when I abandon a silo after it’s allocated?
[21:48] <michi> Build again with ONLY_FREE_SILO?
[21:48] <robru> michi: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-032-3-merge-clean/6/console you just about had it here, but you need to check ONLY_FREE_SILO
[21:48] <robru> yeah
[21:48] <michi> robru: I look at the landing process page and could find anything.
[21:49] <michi> Might be good to add a sentence or two. My expectation was that abandon would do all that.
[21:49] <robru> michi: sorry, I'll update that (it's a bit out of date still)
[21:49] <michi> Sure, no problem. Just mentioning it :)
[21:56] <robru> michi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain/LandingProcess#Abandon_a_landing ok ;-)
[21:57] <michi> robru: Wow, most excellent, thank you! :)
[21:57] <robru> michi: you're welcome!


[00:06] <guiverc> bibi_, if you have a Lubuntu support question, please ask it and someone will respond when/if they can
[00:23] <kc2bez> LargePrime: It looks like you may be trying to install the eoan version of Palemoon on bionic. The version of libc6 is 2.30 in eoan and 2.27 in bionic.
[00:24] <kc2bez> !info libc6 bionic
[00:24] <kc2bez> !info libc6 eoan
[00:25] <kc2bez> lbuntoonewb: We should run through those commands one at a time. No need to make a script if they are not going to work.
[00:26] <lbuntoonewb> so, do I ignore the first line and paste ther est?
[00:26] <lbuntoonewb> #!/bin/sh
[00:26] <lbuntoonewb> echo 349 > /sys/class/gpio/export
[00:26] <lbuntoonewb> echo low >/sys/class/gpio/gpio349/direction
[00:26] <lbuntoonewb> sleep 1
[00:26] <lbuntoonewb> echo high >/sys/class/gpio/gpio349/direction
[00:27] <kc2bez> You can't paste directly into the chat the bot will silence you. You have to use something like paste.ubuntu.com
[00:27] <kc2bez> !paste
[00:28] <kc2bez> try the echo 349 >/sys/class/gpio/export line in the terminal and see what happens
[00:35] <lbuntoonewb> test
[00:35] <kc2bez> You are back
[00:35] <lbuntoonewb> regardless, testing the lines one by one doesn't work
[00:35] <lbuntoonewb> I tried the script at the bottom of this page: https://www.reddit.com/r/Atomic_Pi/wiki/ubuntu
[00:37] <lbuntoonewb> also tried the variant here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Atomic_Pi/comments/bssotr/mayfield_audio_drivers/
[00:42] <kc2bez> what happens when you issue "sudo echo 349 >/sys/class/gpio/export" in the terminal
[00:42] <lbuntoonewb> "permission denied"
[00:42] <kc2bez> you typed sudo?
[00:42] <lbuntoonewb> I went and looked in the file explorer, and there's a file there, but I can't figure out how to open it or read it
[00:42] <lbuntoonewb> yes, that's the second thing I tried
[00:43] <lbuntoonewb> if a command doesn't work, always try sudo
[00:43] <kc2bez> Ok one line at a time though.
[00:43] <lbuntoonewb> what is that command even supposed to do?
[00:43] <lbuntoonewb> I also tried the chmod on the second link, and tried the commands again... and still permission denied
[00:44] <kc2bez> According to the directions it should toggle the audio chip gpio pin low then high
[00:44] <lbuntoonewb> echo isn't a command to do stuff though, it just prints to the command line
[00:44] <kc2bez> the > symbol outputs that to a file
[00:45] <lbuntoonewb> so we're trying to write a number to a random file? that doesn't make any sense
[00:46] <kc2bez> something must be reading that file
[00:46] <kc2bez> if you just do the "sudo echo 349 >/sys/class/gpio/export" part in the terminal what happens?
[00:47] <kc2bez> If it works it shouldn't return anything
[00:48] <lbuntoonewb> bash: /sys/class/gpio/export: Permission denied
[00:48] <lbuntoonewb> just like I've told you 3 times already
[01:05] <lbuntoonewb> I made a shell script and ran it and this is what I get: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/m7nBSPRQs2/
[01:05] <lbuntoonewb> I followed this guide: http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/how-to-create-shell-scripts
[01:08] <kc2bez> I think your script is probably ok but there is something missing in terms of a driver or whatnot. I would try reaching out on the atomic pi support. It looks like they put some extras in the image they promote.
[15:24] <bibi_> Hi
[15:36] <bibi_> GUYSSS


[09:12] <ubot2> In ubot2, zj3t3mju said: skim is <alias> scim
[15:52] <Fujisan> popey can we discuss it here then?
[15:54] <popey> what is there to discuss?
[15:54] <Fujisan> the way you mislead me
[15:55] <popey> I didnt mislead you, I hadn't finished typing the ban when you asked
[15:55] <Fujisan> into thinking i wasnt banned yet to only ban me the second i returned i even apologized
[15:55] <Fujisan> yes you did and you know it that was very mean
[15:55] <popey> I never asked for an apology
[15:55] <Fujisan> ;(
[15:56] <Fujisan> why not ban me straight away why play these games with peoples feelings
[15:56] <popey> I didnt "play games"
[15:56] <Fujisan> because you have sysops you get to toy with peoples feelings huh?
[15:56] <Fujisan> makes you feel all great about yourself
[15:56] <Fujisan> i am not happy about this it was very mean
[15:56] <popey> I'm not going to discuss it if all you're going to do is continue to insult me
[15:56] <Fujisan> doesnt belong in the ubuntu culture
[15:57] <jpds> How... bizarre.
[15:57] <Gary> very
[15:57] <popey> "meh"
[15:58] <Gary> I find it helpful to /whois people, if I see certain channels I know how to treat them :p
[16:16] <Nafallo> jester1-: dude
[16:16] <Nafallo> wrong dude
[16:16] <Nafallo> jpds: dude
[16:17] <jester1-> hi Nafallo
[16:23]  * Nafallo pokes jpds
[16:24] <jpds> Nafallo: Hi.
[16:25] <Nafallo> jpds: hi :-)
[16:25] <Nafallo> jpds: people want !info to return jaunty
[16:25] <Nafallo> wave the magic wand etc... ;-)
[16:29] <jpds> Nafallo: Done.
[16:30] <Nafallo> jpds: ta
[16:32] <jpds> No problem.
[22:59]  * Bluto hugs popey
[22:59] <Bluto> e
[22:59] <Bluto> :D
[23:03] <popey> Bluto: please leave me alone
[23:04] <Bluto> amagush this is just like in the cartoon :)


[00:02] <circlejtp> Testing Daily image.  Suffering from bug #685017 so can't get gdm start.  How can I install to hard disk from USB drive without GDM?
[00:06] <circlejtp> Let me rephrase better.  Bug does not allow gdm start when running in livecd mode from USB.  Would like to install Natty to local hard drive from command line on livecd.  GDM should run once installed to local hard drive.
[00:09] <radi> circlejtp, i did upgrade from 10.10 and everything works perfect
[00:10] <radi> i even had a but before the update, now is gone
[00:10] <radi> a bug*
[00:10] <radi> ubuntu 10,10*
[00:10] <circlejtp> radi, I appreciate that but this is clean hard drive.  I could install 10.10 and then upgrade but was hoping to just clean install
[00:11] <radi> kde or gnome ?
[00:11] <circlejtp> gnome
[00:11] <circlejtp> looking to launch a text mode installer if it is on usb livecd
[00:12] <circlejtp> may have to do the alternate CD thing
[00:13] <radi> maybe, i dont know here to get bleeding edge ubuntu with gnome, but kubuntu has a nice solution to that
[00:14] <charlie-tca> I think live cd is gui based only, even when you install instead of trying it first
[00:14] <radi> chroot ?
[00:15] <circlejtp> so far that is my experience and what i suspect.  Was just hoping to work around.  Will probably flash 10.10 and then upgrade.  Don't have DVD burner and CD image is oversized at moment.  So can't get Natty on there otherwise
[00:16] <charlie-tca> yup. The text installer is the alternate image now
[00:16] <radi> i would go for 10.10 and upgrade, as this is what i did and everything works
[00:18] <circlejtp> going to pull down alternate alpha 1 and text install from there
[00:18] <radi> btw it seems that alpha is pretty stable
[00:18] <radi> why they call it alpha ;P
[00:18] <radi> even 1080p clips with flash run smoother as this is 64 bit too
[00:19] <BUGabundo> yay sudo fixed
[00:19] <BUGabundo> now need to fix my debian box too
[00:19] <BUGabundo> brb
[00:19] <charlie-tca> Hello, BUGabundo
[00:22] <BUGabundo> now for good
[00:23] <charlie-tca> I forgot to update and missed the fun of that one
[00:23] <BUGabundo> ohhhh
[00:23] <BUGabundo> FAIL
[00:23] <charlie-tca>  huh?
[00:24] <BUGabundo> not having fun
[00:24] <charlie-tca> sorry
[00:25] <charlie-tca> Is it fixed now?
[00:25] <BUGabundo> yes
[00:35] <BUGabundo> kernel linux <IP_ADDRESS>-22.... time does move fast!
[00:35] <charlie-tca> yes
[00:35] <charlie-tca> anyone know how to make virtualbox work in natty again?
[00:35]  * charlie-tca broke his bad... it won't work at all
[00:35] <BUGabundo> no ideia
[00:36] <BUGabundo> is it broken?
[00:36] <charlie-tca> um, yes, it is broken
[00:36] <charlie-tca> Won't let me start any VBox machines
[00:39] <BUGabundo> have your reconfigured it?
[00:39] <charlie-tca> I re-installed it
[00:40] <charlie-tca>  but it did not care at all
[00:40] <BUGabundo> that won't do it
[00:41] <charlie-tca> What do I have to do, then?
[00:41] <BUGabundo> it usually tells you to run a vdbox reconfigure or setup, something
[00:41] <BUGabundo> don't recall. no VB box here
[00:42] <BUGabundo> I get everytime I change kernels
[00:42] <charlie-tca> It has just been giving me error numbers, and I can't remember the command either
[00:43] <charlie-tca> Probably something with the latest kernel... Maverick did this to
[00:43] <charlie-tca> heh
[00:44] <charlie-tca> modprobe vboxdrv failed
[00:44] <charlie-tca> kernel is too new
[00:48] <BUGabundo> yep
[00:48] <BUGabundo> boot into the older one, till its fixed :)
[01:00] <FloridaGuy> jusy install ubuntu 11.04 with kde...4.6 beta 2...everything seems great..just cant get icons  panel to work
[01:14] <hggdh> charlie-tca: it seems vboxdrv is getting a kernel oops
[01:14] <hggdh> charlie-tca: look at your dmesg, you should see it
[01:14]  * hggdh is going to open a bug as soon as time allows
[01:25] <charlie-tca> Thanks, hggdh. I haven't been able to find that yet
[01:25] <charlie-tca> I knew it had to be something besides the "turn on ecc ram" when the machine can't use it
[01:25] <hggdh> charlie-tca: in my case I see it as a result of a modprobe on boot
[01:25] <charlie-tca> I'll look again
[01:26] <charlie-tca> We did the same thing last release in alpha, though
[01:27] <hggdh> charlie-tca: remember the "three passwords wrong" on gksudo?
[01:27] <hggdh> I think I got it back...
[01:28] <charlie-tca> crap
[01:31] <BUGabundo> lolol
[01:31] <BUGabundo> really?
[01:32] <BUGabundo> could be left overs from the sudo fix
[01:32] <charlie-tca> no oops here
[01:32] <charlie-tca> not in dmesg or syslog
[01:33] <hggdh> weird
[01:33] <charlie-tca> all I got is ECC disabled; either enable it or force it
[01:33] <charlie-tca> and this system is not ecc capable
[01:36] <charlie-tca> hggdh: I know you are right, I just can't find the fail lines.
[01:55] <charlie-tca> and now, how do I get google in English again?
[02:02] <BUGabundo> in the bottom
[02:02] <BUGabundo> there should be a link to language
[02:02] <charlie-tca> ᎤᏂᎳᏛ ᎤᏓᏴᎳᏛᎢ Realtime ᏚᎾᏓᏡᎬ
[02:02] <charlie-tca> ᏁᎵᏍᏔᏅᏒ | ᏣᏲᎦ ᏕᎦᎧᎲᎢ | ᎠᏴᏍᏗ
[02:02] <charlie-tca> Google
[02:02] <BUGabundo> or go to Advanced and change it
[02:02] <BUGabundo> night
[02:02] <charlie-tca> which one is it?
[02:02] <BUGabundo> ahhaaahhahahaaha
[02:02] <BUGabundo> clear cookies :)
[02:03] <charlie-tca> lol
[02:41] <charlie-tca> hggdh: I see the modprobe vboxdrv failed, but I can not find it in dmesg... frustrated now
[02:42] <charlie-tca> It just isn't logging to dmesg for some reason
[03:00] <hggdh> charlie-tca: try /var/log/kern.log
[03:01] <charlie-tca> I did
[03:01] <charlie-tca> I checked every log file and can't find it
[03:01] <hggdh> ok. I know it is dumb, but try 'grep "Call Trace:" /var/log/* 2>/dev/null
[03:02] <hggdh> '
[03:02] <charlie-tca> That's the one. Thanks. Let me try that
[03:05] <charlie-tca> yup
[03:05] <hggdh> got it?
[03:05] <charlie-tca> gives the trace in kern.log
[03:05] <hggdh> I am going to open a bug on it (or will you?)
[03:06] <hggdh> doing it now
[03:07] <charlie-tca> go ahead.
[03:07] <charlie-tca> Still looks like a incompatiblility with the new kernel to me
[03:07] <hggdh> oh boy. "Please wait while bug data is processed. ...". This morning it took almost 30 min
[03:07] <charlie-tca> But I will confirm it
[03:07] <hggdh> charlie-tca: might be, IDK
[03:07] <charlie-tca> Oh, goody
[03:10] <hggdh> I do not remember if vBox uses DKMS
[03:10] <hggdh> OK. I am going to watch a movie, and will be back every 10 min or so to see if LP finally ate the whole bug report
[03:11] <charlie-tca> it's a recommended, I think
[03:15] <hggdh> still waiting...
[03:15] <charlie-tca> np, I'll wait too
[03:15] <charlie-tca> go watch the movie
[03:15] <hggdh> k
[03:15] <hggdh> brb
[04:16] <hggdh> still waiting
[04:17] <charlie-tca> lol
[04:19] <charlie-tca> Well, I might have to confirm tomorrow, too. but I am still here...
[04:27] <hggdh> yeah. I will hit the bed, Charlie. Tomorrow morning I will be here, and we will go from there
[04:27] <hggdh> good night, charlie-tca
[04:28] <charlie-tca> Good night
[04:54] <MTecknology> what's the deal here?.... I only saw really ugly breaking in natty once so far
[04:54] <MTecknology> what a boring release cycle :P
[09:38] <das2k_117> Hello everyone
[09:38] <das2k_117> i want to set the desktop
[09:38] <das2k_117> in natty
[09:38] <das2k_117> as it was in 10.10
[09:41] <rigved> das2k_117: what do you exactly want to do?
[09:43] <rigved> das2k_117: ok. so you want the same gnome panels that you had in 10.10?
[09:43] <das2k_117> aye
[09:43] <das2k_117> also m not getting wifi enable in natty
[09:43] <das2k_117> so was willing to downgrade
[09:43] <das2k_117> but i guess that is not quite possible
[09:45] <rigved> !downgrade | das2k_117
[09:45] <rigved> das2k_117: yes it's not
[09:45] <das2k_117> yes i know
[09:45] <das2k_117> so i hv aborted that plan
[09:45] <das2k_117> but i need to get wifi running
[09:45] <das2k_117> i tried installing various
[09:45] <das2k_117> drivers
[09:45] <das2k_117> but no help
[09:46] <rigved> das2k_117: you can start 11.04 in the classic desktop setting when you log in.
[09:46] <das2k_117> in that i have to lauch panels by myself
[09:46] <rigved> das2k_117: that way, you can get GUI access to the NM applet
[09:46] <rigved> das2k_117: ohh
[09:46] <das2k_117> i get access to NM
[09:46] <das2k_117> i lauch nm-applet
[09:47] <das2k_117> but the wifi is not getting enable
[09:47] <das2k_117> my system is
[09:47] <das2k_117> HP HDX 16
[09:47] <das2k_117> 64bit ubuntu
[09:48] <rigved> das2k_117: ok.do you have wpa_supplicant installed?
[09:49] <das2k_117> no,
[09:49] <das2k_117> i don't have it installed
[09:49] <rigved> das2k_117: and is your wifi encrypted?
[09:49] <jbicha> how about trying sudo NetworkManager from the terminal?
[09:53] <das2k_117> nm is working
[09:53] <das2k_117> nm-applet is working
[09:53] <das2k_117> and both are launched too
[09:53] <das2k_117> Ethernet cable
[09:53] <das2k_117> give me n/w
[09:53] <das2k_117> which i m using rite now
[09:53] <das2k_117> but i don't get wifi
[09:53] <rigved> das2k_117: is your wifi connection encrypted? then you need to install wpa_supplicant
[09:54] <das2k_117> i need to relay wifi
[09:55] <das2k_117> it is not dat i m not able to connect to ne network
[09:55] <das2k_117> but the wifi does not gets enabled at all
[09:55] <das2k_117> i m trying the partial upgrade
[09:55] <das2k_117> hope that helps
[09:56] <rigved> das2k_117: no. i think partial upgrade won't help. but you can give it a try
[10:41] <shcherbak> try WPA & WPA2 Personal as wireless secirity, if this fails try WEP
[10:47] <jpds> shcherbak: 'if this fails' ?
[10:48] <shcherbak> ups wrong channel
[10:48] <shcherbak> too many tabs ;(
[10:49] <shcherbak> jpds: omg! Do you think many people have seen this?
[10:50] <jpds> shcherbak: About 185.
[10:51] <shcherbak> jpds: Good, Have been told that only above 200 is define as public embarasement
[10:56] <brot> shcherbak: we could post this to bash.org
[10:59]  * shcherbak chokes
[13:42] <hggdh> charlie-tca: still waiting ;-)
[13:42] <hggdh> I am cancelling it, and opening the bug by hand
[13:42] <charlie-tca> I filed one already for another vbox issue
[13:42] <charlie-tca> bug 691527
[13:42] <charlie-tca> I can't remove it anymore
[13:55] <coz_> anyone having issues with no launcher and no upper panel with todays updates?
[14:01] <IdleOne> coz_: everything seems ok here for now.
[14:02] <charlie-tca> coz_: did compiz crash?
[14:02] <coz_> charlie-tca,  no it didnt... but there was a compiz core and plugins update
[14:02] <IdleOne> gir1.2 packages are still all crazy
[14:02] <coz_> charlie-tca,   which means  a reset of of settings in cssm  but after reboot   no launcher or upper panel
[14:02] <charlie-tca> yeah
[14:03] <charlie-tca> Seeing compiz crash and take the panel and dock with it
[14:03] <coz_> charlie-tca,  well generally  a   "unity  & disown in terminal or gmrun  just   unity resets things
[14:05] <coz_> there seems to be no run dialog   aka   alt+F2  in unity
[14:05] <coz_> so i installed gmrun   which works when I have to reset  nux instance  with    "unity"
[14:06] <coz_> I am in classic gnome right now let me log off and try it again
[14:11] <coz_> nope...launcher and upper panel appear for a few seconds than ...gone
[14:11] <coz_> doing update && dist-upgrade again to check
[14:11] <charlie-tca> It is being looked into already
[14:11] <coz_> ok
[14:12] <coz_> is anyone packaging the compiz plugins extra  ?
[14:14] <charlie-tca> don't know
[14:15] <coz_> ok
[14:16] <coz_> ah I prefer the classic gnome anyway :)
[14:25] <c0nsense> hello! anyone know if ubuntu 11.04 alpha works on VirtualBox?
[14:25] <coz_> c0nsense,  it may work with classic gnome  but probably not  unity
[14:26] <coz_> c0nsense,   but in alll honesty,,, I have not attemptd it at all
[14:26] <c0nsense> coz_: understand, and, if i'm using 10.10 on a real machine and get install unity, can i install unity same with 10.10?
[14:27] <coz_> c0nsense,   not sure I understand...you mean install unity onto 10.10 ?
[14:27] <coz_> c0nsense,  again I havent attempted that... geneally I clean install  a system when it is of a different version and I no longer attmept upgrades from one version to then next
[14:28] <c0nsense> coz_: yeah! I'm running ubuntu 10.10 and i want install unity, can i install without problems or i need use 11.04 to try unity?
[14:28] <coz_> c0nsense,  i am going to suggest installing 11.04  clean... again I have not attempted unity on 10.10
[14:28] <charlie-tca> c0nsense: VBox does not allow unity and compiz. You can run the classic desktop in it only]
[14:28] <coz_> c0nsense,   and of course...  it is alpha :)
[14:30] <c0nsense> so, I'll be just 10.10 same!
[14:30] <c0nsense> lol
[14:30] <coz_> c0nsense,  what is you native language?
[14:31] <c0nsense> coz_: Portuguese, why? i know that my english is sucks!
[14:31] <coz_> c0nsense,  just wanted to know... no !  your english is pretty good  :)
[14:32] <c0nsense> coz_: really!? O_o it's serious? I think so my english is very sucks.
[14:33] <coz_> c0nsense,   well I can understand  you :) eu posso te entender
[14:35] <c0nsense> coz_: I know! if you ask me "what is you native language?" it's because is difficult to understand.
[14:35] <coz_> c0nsense,  no  I just noticed some  difference in the way you make a sentence.... but  it is understandable
[14:36] <c0nsense> coz_: but i think so nothing bad to a boy that never learn english on specific's english school, and have just 17 years old.
[14:36] <coz_> c0nsense,   very good  then :)
[14:37] <c0nsense> coz_: haha! lol! how old are you!?
[14:37] <coz_> c0nsense,  sujeira como o velho
[14:38] <c0nsense> coz_: !!! i found a web page with unity on 10.10.
[14:38] <c0nsense> coz_: how to.
[14:38] <coz_> ok
[14:38] <c0nsense> coz_: do you wanna see?
[14:38] <coz_> c0nsense,   sure
[14:39] <c0nsense> coz_: brazilian site, and i think so it's not a good idea. http://pplware.sapo.pt/linux/experimente-o-unity-no-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat/
[14:41] <c0nsense> coz_: what do you think?
[14:41] <coz_> c0nsense,   wont open here
[14:42] <c0nsense> brb.
[14:44] <c0nsense> ;/
[15:31] <hifi> what is Gir?
[15:35] <IdleOne> !info gir1.2
[15:35] <IdleOne> !search gir
[15:35] <IdleOne> oops
[15:35] <hifi> lol
[15:35] <IdleOne> !find gir
[15:36] <hifi> so in a nutshell it doesn't concern me when upgrading ;)
[15:36] <hifi> thanks
[15:42] <coz_> hey guys.. noticed in classic gnome that when creating a new panel ,,,there is no click hold an drag to new position
[16:14] <jMCg> Could it be that every other upgrade breaks Unity?
[16:16] <IdleOne> yes
[16:16] <charlie-tca> heh, It's a good alpha ...
[16:16] <jMCg> Yes.. I'm back in the console.
[16:16] <jMCg> Haven't had this much fun since I tried Rawhide.
[16:17] <charlie-tca> Yeah, maverick was too easy for testing
[16:26] <twager> Anyone tried todays partial upgrade ?
[16:27] <wzssyqa> twager: indicator-sound are broken , not compliant with rhythmbox
[16:28] <jMCg> Unity is broken.
[16:31] <twager> Thanks...Think I will see what tomorrow brings.
[16:38] <jMCg> I should make it a habit to check in here, before attempting to run an upgrade.
[16:44] <jMCg> I'm wondering how I can make use of both monitors in a Console..
[16:44] <jMCg> Also.. I need UTF-8 fonts.
[16:45] <jMCg> *** /dev/mapper/vg_phoenix-lv_home will be checked for errors at next reboot ***
[16:45] <jMCg> Why do I get this every time I logon, reboot, fsck /home -- what's wrong here?
[16:47] <BrianTheLion> hey all! Anybody want to field an ALSA/PulseAudio problem?
[16:48] <yofel> jMCg: do you have some forcefsck file lying around?
[16:50] <BrianTheLion> I just installed 11.04 on my Acer Aspire One (ZG5) and am still having a problem with the mic. The problem has been described in a number of forum posts, but no one seems to have a clear solution.
[16:50] <BrianTheLion> so it's kinda interesting
[16:51] <jMCg> yofel: hope.
[16:51] <yofel> jMCg: if not, check Filesystem state, (maximum) mount count, last checked, check interval and next check after in the output from 'tune2fs -l /dev/mapper/vg_phoenix-lv_home' (assuming you're using ext)
[16:51] <BrianTheLion> Symptoms are this: Microphone works under the Sound Recorder but not under other applications (Skype, Google Talk, etc)
[16:52] <jMCg> yofel: yes, ext4... Considering to move to btrfs.
[16:53] <yofel> jMCg: you can pastebin the output if you want, should look roughly like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/544933/
[16:53] <BrianTheLion> changing the "snd-hda-intel model=" options in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf doesn't solve anything
[16:54] <BrianTheLion> somebody found a weird hack, though, where you can get it working TEMPORARILY if you install pavucontrol and set the left and right channels for the mic to different input levels. Why there are two channels for a mono mic, I don't know.
[16:55] <BrianTheLion> I've googled like mad, installed the latest ALSA builds, etc, etc. Nothing.
[16:56] <jMCg> yofel: hah.. I have Maximum mount count: -1
[16:56] <yofel> how did that happen o.O?
[16:57] <yofel> that's usually ~30
[16:57] <BrianTheLion> anybody have a clue?
[16:59] <yofel> jMCg: sudo tune2fs -c 30 /dev/mapper/vg_phoenix-lv_home
[16:59] <jMCg> yofel: just did that.
[17:03] <BrianTheLion> Here is my forum post if anybody thinks of anything: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1647091
[17:04] <BrianTheLion> the problem would seem to have something to do with the interaction between ALSA and PulseAudio for this particular chipset
[17:05] <BrianTheLion> which is RealTek ALC268, btw
[17:53] <MTecknology> hmm... I tried upgrading my laptop, but there's 6 broken packages
[17:53] <histo> anyone else getting spammed from pianoxxxx
[17:53] <MTecknology> python-gnome2  lib32asound2  libpython2.6  python2.7-minimal  python-gtk2  hplip  python-gconf  python-glade2
[17:55] <MTecknology> I guess I knew python was undergoing a crap ton of changes, i just didn't expect to see those broken for the upgrade
[17:55] <IdleOne> python should be fixed now
[17:58] <MTecknology> IdleOne: http://dpaste.com/287780/
[18:01] <IdleOne> hmm
[18:04] <MTecknology> IdleOne: kinda ugly, huh?
[18:04] <IdleOne> MTecknology: a little
[18:04] <IdleOne> what does dist-upgrade say?
[18:05] <MTecknology> http://dpaste.com/287781/
[18:05] <MTecknology> maybe I'll just do a fresh install of a daily build
[18:06] <IdleOne> well python2.7 is def messed up for you
[18:06] <IdleOne> hehe
[18:06] <IdleOne> MTecknology: give it a shot. I assume @zombie is not a production machine
[18:08] <MTecknology> IdleOne: it's my laptop that i recovered from the dead; it has zip ties, shrink tubing, and other stuff inside it now :P
[18:08] <IdleOne> lol
[18:08] <MTecknology> I separated /opt and /home, everything else is pretty normal - just package selection
[18:11] <MTecknology> I can't really even move it somewhere. The power connection to the motherboard broke- so it's permanently on power. which is fine, the battery lasts about 5-10min
[18:12] <MTecknology> I mostly use this one for building packages. I have a ruptured disk so I turn it on, lay down, ssh in from my new laptop and then use it
[18:12] <Daekdroom> Zombies. They just can't do stuff like a normal one.
[18:14] <MTecknology> it's amazing how much pain can come from a little tiny part of your body
[18:24] <MTecknology> IdleOne: ya.. so.. network config doesn't work in the daily/current build
[18:26] <IdleOne> I been doing aptitude update && aptitude upgrade twice a day, with reckless abandon I might add. haven't had many issues
[18:27] <MTecknology> my other laptop has been trucking along just perfect - except for the python upgrade
[18:28] <MTecknology> I guess I'll pop this back over to 10.10
[18:31] <MTecknology> I'll try one more thing before I give up
[18:41] <MTecknology> This is making me realize how much I love SSD
[18:59] <DasEi> whats the latest natty kernel ?
[18:59] <MTecknology> IdleOne: yay.. it was installing fine but the network config didn't work - so now during install it's hanging on
[18:59] <MTecknology> Updating the list of avaiable packages...
[19:00] <IdleOne> DasEi: 2.6.37-9
[19:00] <DasEi> IdleOne: thanks
[19:01] <DasEi> IdleOne: somehow I can't get the headers for hit, though backports-repo works
[19:01] <DasEi> it*
[19:15] <DasEi> all good, thx again
[19:21] <jMCg> I found a way to ``repair'' Unity: I created a lauchner for a console on my desktop, in which I then launched compiz
[19:34] <rigved> jMCg: that's something similar to compiz --replace, right?
[19:34] <MTecknology> great... I can't even get ubuntu 10.10 to install on this thing
[19:34] <jMCg> rigved: only that comipiz isn't running, for some a strange reason.
[19:37] <MTecknology> come on... why the heck will this not install
[19:39] <andregondim> Hi, I need some help, I made a fresh alpha 1 install and after upgrade and reboot only show me the wallpaper
[19:44] <charlie-tca> andregondim: choose classic desktop session at login, then run updates
[19:44] <andregondim> let me try
[19:45] <charlie-tca> If you have nvidia video, you will need to install the hardware drivers to see the unity desktop
[19:45] <holstein> i have to say, im not dis-liking unity at all
[19:46] <holstein> i was concerned about the change being too drastic
[19:46] <holstein> looks very nice guys :)
[19:46] <andregondim> I have a intel video card
[20:03] <MTecknology> even with the network cable and a network connection, it still hangs at Updating the list of avaiable packages...
[20:32] <coz_> are they serious with th is logo ?  http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Unity_Logo.svg
[20:52] <duffydack> anyone else having trouble making a persistent usb stick actually use the persistence part?
[21:03] <nit-wit> duffydack, what are you using to load the thumb
[21:03] <duffydack> usb-creator in maverick.  also tried lucid
[21:04] <duffydack> tried amd64 iso and 32bit iso.
[21:04] <nit-wit> duffydack, so you can't get the persistence?
[21:04] <duffydack> 2gig usb stick, maximum persistence..its just ignoring it
[21:04] <duffydack> I get the file there (casper-rw) but the live boot ignores it
[21:05] <duffydack> tried using alpha1 of natty and daily.
[21:06] <duffydack> almost tempted to use that windows app by pendrivelinux, it has persistence options.
[21:07] <nit-wit> duffydack, you can make a 2 partitioned set up the first a fat32 for the ISO big enough for the csaper-rw to be added. you make the 2nd partition a ext2 name it casper-rw, then remove the csaper from the first. this is used to get a lrger then the 4 gig limit generally but works. I suspect the problem is else where though
[21:08] <nit-wit> duffydack, do you use the slider to size the persistence, and is it saving anything at all changes
[21:09] <duffydack> so, make partition1 as fat32 big enough to hold the live environment, and make partition2 as ext2 and label it casper-rw
[21:09] <duffydack> im sliding it all the way across, it makes it correctly..  It tells me its making ext2 in persistence, and there is a casper file there...
[21:09] <nit-wit> duffydack, yes but is the set up you have now saving any changes upon reboot?
[21:10] <duffydack> no, thats what im saying...its making it as it should ( I think, given the progress info while making it and the existence of the file) its just ignoring it while using it in live
[21:11] <duffydack> made it maybe 10 times now
[21:11] <nit-wit> duffydack, so lets say you change the theme and reboot does it save that new theme
[21:12] <nit-wit> duffydack, 2 gigs is not really good as any download ISO will have a ton of updates/upgrades
[21:12] <duffydack> I have changed font sizes, removed stuff from launcher, deleted some folders, adjusted mouse and keyboard options, startup options and no...it doesnt
[21:13] <duffydack> 1.1gig persistence is max...that should be enough?
[21:13] <duffydack> if I update daily
[21:14] <nit-wit> duffydack, not for maverick or Lucid or Natty to many updates and kernels you don't want to do any kernel updates. The Iso is being read first
[21:14] <duffydack> I have thought about (when it actually works) making tmpfs for /var/cache/apt/archives to speed up updating and not run out of space in case...I have 4gig mem
[21:15] <duffydack> so are you saying its not working because its not enough space?
[21:15] <nit-wit> duffydack, if the casper-rw was working you can't empty it, it just fills up, you would be better with a 8 gig thumb and a full install
[21:16] <duffydack> I have a 32gig stick with grub2/isos on 4gig partition, I could use that.
[21:16] <duffydack> that stick is one of my backup sticks tho...
[21:17] <nit-wit> duffydack, just be sure the grub loader is pointed at the thumb when you install otherwise it may default to the mbr of the computer
[21:17] <duffydack> well, even with 2gig and full persistence, it should work.
[21:17] <duffydack> I have installed to stick before but I dont like how much slower it is
[21:17] <duffydack> slow already, dont wanna make it any slower..well I thought it was anyway..
[21:18] <nit-wit> duffydack, 2 gigs is a install load with unetbotin or the disc creator in Ubuntu, to many updates
[21:18] <duffydack> I think I will make a maverick live+persistence, just to check.
[21:19] <nit-wit> duffydack, the pendrive multi usb is pretty cool I have a 16 gig with a bunch of bootable ISO's and one persistance If I wanted it
[21:20] <duffydack> actually I'll use this 4gig iso boot partition on the 32gig and make that live+persistence...if that dont work, then....
[21:20] <nit-wit> duffydack, is the partition at the front of the thumb
[21:20] <duffydack> yes
[21:21] <nit-wit> duffydack, that only seems to be the key at times
[21:21] <duffydack> only 2...that fat32 and rest of 32gig is encrypted for my rsync job
[21:21] <nit-wit> duffydack, good luck brb
[21:27] <nit-wit> back
[22:09] <nit-wit> duffydack, what up
[22:10] <duffydack> not much, not tried it yet
[22:13] <nit-wit> duffydack, just checking
[22:20] <coz_> mm classic gnome  there are no   File Edit View mentus on apps
[22:46] <coz_> anyone having issues with File Edit View menus not showing in classic gnome?
[23:17] <coz_> out of curiosity,,, I notice that the close  min max button are now on the upper panel.. and no window decos...is this expected?
[23:19] <charlie-tca> I think it is. does moving the mouse around the top of the window or the panel make a menu show up?
[23:19] <coz_> charlie-tca,  mousing over the panel shows the  File  Edit view  menus yes
[23:20] <charlie-tca> Then it is expectede
[23:20] <coz_> charlie-tca,  unfortunaltely  in classic gnome   there are not  File  Edit View menus
[23:20] <charlie-tca> Maybe a bad side effect?
[23:20] <coz_> perhaps  :)
[23:21] <charlie-tca> Python is working today!
[23:21] <coz_> this is good...yes?
[23:21] <coz_> i dont think I can get used to no window decorations
[23:21] <charlie-tca> Well, it looks to have screwed my desktop up bad, and this Xubuntu
[23:29] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu reboot, xfwm4 does not restart; no window title bars, everything piles on one workspace, and can't see anything but the window on top.
[23:29] <charlie-tca> :-)
[23:46] <Volkodav> charlie-tca: I am OK on my xfce though
[23:46] <Volkodav> almost everything works except awn half crippled:)
[23:47] <charlie-tca> Did you update today?
[23:52] <Volkodav> yes - will all new stuff
[23:52] <Volkodav> kernel included
[23:52] <Volkodav> and rebooted
[23:52] <Volkodav> with*
[23:53] <charlie-tca> second update did it
[23:54] <Volkodav> hmm like very recent ?
[23:54] <charlie-tca> yes
[23:54] <Volkodav> I only see compiz in updates for last 2 hours I checked
[23:55] <Volkodav> you had compiz too or more ?
[23:55] <charlie-tca> Maybe it's just me
[23:55] <charlie-tca> No, no compiz
[23:55] <charlie-tca> but I have test themes and icons and stuff, too


[00:07] <jamalta> bluebomber: I only know how to do it with a keyboard shortcut, super + key + #
[00:07] <jamalta> super + shift I mean, so for the first item Super + Shift + 1
[01:37] <bluebomber> jamalta, I figured it out: middle click.
[01:38] <bluebomber> Thanks, though.
[01:38] <bluebomber> I prefer keyboard shortcuts in general.
[02:07] <jamalta> bluebomber: Ah,.. I don't have middleclick on this laptop lol
[02:07] <bluebomber> I have one only on one of my usb mice.
[02:08] <bluebomber> My touchpad does not have a middle click.
[02:08] <bluebomber> They could definitely improve some of these "shortcuts" ;)
[02:32] <crashsystems> bluebomber: if your laptop has physical left and right mouse buttons, middle click can be simulated by pressing them simultaneously
[02:32] <bluebomber> Well whaddaya know?
[02:33] <bluebomber> Thanks.
[02:33] <crashsystems> yw


[04:09] <ryzen3> hello
[04:09] <ryzen3> linux noob here seeing if someone could help me out a sec
[04:11] <lynorian> ryzen3, we need to know what to help you out with to help you
[04:11] <lynorian> we cannot automagically know your problem
[04:12] <ryzen3> ok im running lubuntu off of a usb stick because my laptop hard drive wont work
[04:12] <ryzen3> is it bad to run the live cd for that long?
[04:13] <lynorian> are you running persistant mode?
[04:13] <lynorian> reading in the live session not writing won't do anything
[04:14] <ryzen3> not persistent mode yet but i know how to do it
[04:14] <lynorian> The cheap USB sticks are not good to write to constantly
[04:14] <ryzen3> thats what i hear. its a sandisk 32gb
[04:14] <ryzen3> the program i used to burn the iso only support up to ubuntu 15.10 or so
[04:15] <ryzen3> for persistent mode
[04:15] <lynorian> USB will not get the best performance but lubuntu is light enough it may not matter
[04:16] <lynorian> There were also usb external hard drives I have done full installs but that does not work well on a laptop
[04:17] <ryzen3> i didnt figure so
[04:17] <ryzen3> might as well install windows t that point
[04:18] <lynorian> no nit really lubuntu has better updates
[04:18] <ryzen3> really?
[04:19] <lynorian> yes you can check your email instead of windows update taking complete control downloading and installing updates
[04:19] <lynorian> has a package manager to get all security updates for everything
[04:20] <ryzen3> yeah i did that but then it crashed
[04:21] <ryzen3> not because of the updates but livecds only work for a few days
[15:02] <Capum321> hello!
[15:04] <Capum321> the DM login screen is run by lightdm, right? the bug it's being still alive? about the the xfce power manager unable to suspend when the screen is locked at the DM login session?
[17:42] <musician_pro> hi everyone, I have a question: I downloaded latest version of Firefox from their repository, can I replace the folder (extracted) with the original folder present in /usr/lib ? Please if you reply to me write my name thank you
[20:04] <Capum321> hello
[20:04] <Capum321> the DM login screen is run by lightdm, right? the bug it's being still alive? about the the xfce power manager unable to suspend when the screen is locked at the DM login session?
[20:08] <lynorian> Capum321, which version of lubuntu?
[20:19] <musician_pro> hi everyone, I have a question: I downloaded latest version of Firefox from their repository, can I replace the folder (extracted) with the original folder present in /usr/lib ? Please if you reply to me write my name thank you
[20:35] <Capum321> lynorian: 16.04
[23:15] <onogio> Hi! I'm a freshly noob and i'm trying to install lubuntu in a HP Compaq Presario B1013 but the installation  or the live mode does not go on!
[23:26] <james1138> Question about Lubuntu 16.04.02 in the 32 bit version. Is PAE enabled by default or is some manual tweaking needed??
[23:31] <tsimonq2> james1138: Nope, not at all
[23:32] <wxl> @tsimonq2: for an either/or question, not not sure that answers it
[23:32] <tsimonq2> Oh k
[23:32] <tsimonq2> james1138: Lots of manual tweaking is needed, wxl, do you remember what we have to do?
[23:32] <wxl> i think
[23:32] <wxl> !pae
[23:32] <wxl> :)
[23:34] <tsimonq2> wxl: Oh, that's what I meant
[23:34] <tsimonq2> Yeah, PAE is enabled, we don't have *non*-PAE
[23:39] <james1138> Many thanks ubottu!! I am using the 64 bit version but I am just plain worn out trying to get my older 32 bit apps to run. On top of that... getting Wine to run 32 bit so I can keep playing my favorite old 32 bit games... yuck. If this grampa had hair - it be yanked out.
[23:40] <james1138> I mean "Wine to run 32 bit Windows apps" - sorry.