[00:15] <dcompiler> Trying to install the official AMDGPU drivers and I keep getting "WARNING: amdgpu dkms failed for running kernel"
[00:32] <oerheks> you should already have amdgpu, standard
[00:32] <oerheks> or ddi you try to install amdgpu-pro?
[00:54] <dcompiler> @oerheks I was installing amdgpu-pro
[03:12] <viewer|50> re
[03:15] <viewer|21> re
[03:16] <viewer|21> openvpn in network manager saying to me "plugin missing"
[03:16] <viewer|21> "missing vpn plugin"
[03:21] <viewer|21> are you all dead?
 hmmm
 weird
 Hey guys! Just checking, is everybody in the Kubuntu team fine? Thinking of the CoVid19 situation.
 @viewer|21, Hi viewer! Had the same problem.
 Found out that openvpn has to be installed.
 The menu says it is there but it actually is not.
 Simple "sudo apt install openvpn" might do it.
 @Linuxophil, @RikMills
 @Linuxophil, Not dead yet
 :P
 LOL
 But seriously.
 Healthwise all OK in the team?
 As far as I know :)
 Sending all the best to the devs of my favorite distro!
 TY
 Will there be an upgrade path available from 18.04 and/or 20.04 from day one or explicitly at a later time?
 Ubuntu won't turn on upgrades until perhaps the 1st point release time. You can obviously force them, but that is your risk
 So no, we won't be shouting 'upgrade' on day 1
 sorry, going back to 😴for a bit
[07:14] <lordievader> Good morning
 Morning
 @FailBacon, Good Afternoon
 hello guys u know the freezing problem still happening even after installing blackports
 my kernel is up to date, ram is 3 gb without swap i dont what s causing the freeze but i think when the cpu reaches 100 percent load it causes i dont know if it s true so every time i have to reboot through tty2 btw is there any command to read system log which causes the problem in tty2 that way i can find the problem,       my pc has intel pentium inside 3 gb ram dual boot 140 gb each
 @dibakarmandal, When I typed that it was 8:17 am here...
 i m on kubuntu 18.4 lts
 nowadays it s happening a lop tried some solutions on internet but nothing worked          also on ubuntu i had this problem so  i think it s hardware related
 might me old cpu but dont know😞😞
[09:35] <masonbee-M> How old is the CPU (p3?)
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/3UDVhNcE/file_26044.jpg
 Are you on Kubuntu or Ubuntu, because a fresh install of Kubuntu will set the Ballo filesystem indexer running which can max out the CPU and without swap might cause the problem. Have you tried balooctl disable to stop the indexer and if that is the problem then cpulimit might help.
 i was on ubuntu and now switched to kubuntu clean install
 @FailBacon, Ohh
[09:41] <masonbee-M> Probably the first thing I would do is insert a usb and enable swap on it just to make sure but try the baloo disable method. I had problems with it last year. You CPU shouldbe fine.
 @dibakarmandal, I don't live in America or where you come from xD
 @FailBacon, India
 Oof
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/wX4iw40I/file_26045.jpg sorry masonbee a noob question but swap shouldn t be done only on low ram PCs as i have so much free memory , will u suggest the swap
 While this is true Linux is still set up for swap by default. It is also used for things like suspend as well as far as i know (eg; the memory gets written to swap and then read off again at startup). In general I use a swap size the same as my ram and then turn swappiness down using https://masonbee.nz/change-swappiness-to-use-ram-instead-of-the-swapfile/ instead of killing it all together.
[09:57] <masonbee-M> Doesn't the output there say you do have swap? I thought you said you didn't.
 @masonbee-M> <METHD3ALER, sorry i forgot i had swap
 now what should i do
 i have swap i ve disabled balooctl rebooted  the freeze still happening
 should i try limit cpu?
[11:28] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:39] <theMetamorphosis> Hi
[11:43] <BluesKaj> hi theMetamorphosis
 At this point you want to see if you can figure out what is going wrong with it. Using top might give you an idea if you have some out of control process with a little bit of warning. There is also the Ksystemlog viewer in Kubuntu that would be worth checking out. Unfortunately, I haven't really dealt with system crashes that much and the two times I have the first was where it would crash under ubuntu but
[12:00] <masonbee-M> not opensuse and the second was a problem with the bios that I fixed by updating the bios (Danger. Can brick computer.). Both were a bugger because the crashes stopped the logs being written so the last thing I saw was the part before the crash. Sorry I can't be more helpful. Does anyone else have some ideas?
[12:02] <BluesKaj> masonbee-M, wrong how?
 okay another thing today i was listening a song on youtube and downloading a file (it was 70% downloaded) and then the freeze occured but the song was still playing so waited for  5 min and after i rebooted my pc and guess what the file was downloaded 100%
 i ll wait for next release for 32 bit
[12:29] <lordievader> methd3aler: how full is your ram?
 @masonbee-M> <METHD3ALER, thanks though
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/cZPzdjaA/file_26045.jpg .
 @lordievader, ^
 i dont use heavy stuff
[12:32] <lordievader> i meant just before a freeze
 i dont know but i dont think the ram is the problem
[12:41] <lordievader> 3Gb of ram is not much these days.
[12:41] <lordievader> Did you check the smart values of your hard drive?
 @lordievader, I THINK I SOLVED THE ISSUE
 CHANGED RENDERING BACKEND FROM  OPENGL TO XRENDER😃😃
[13:10] <lordievader> What video card do you have?
[13:10] <lordievader> (And what does dmesg say?)
 @lordievader, Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[13:16] <lordievader> And dmesg?
[13:16] <lordievader> Does it report driver crashes?
 no
 it s been 1 hour and till now no freeze
 will let u know if it happens again
 now it makes sense why music was playing in backgroud and downloading  was working while my screen was frozen
[14:56] <Roey> hi
[14:57] <Roey> I find myself doing this every few months: https://pastebin.com/WEDenMcB  Is this common?
[14:57] <Roey> (to reclaim disk space)
  Excellent! Hopefully that was it.
[18:13] <Roey> for those people here who say "aye" on IRC, why do you use it?
 @masonbee-M> <METHD3ALER, been 6 hoiu
[20:41] <johnone> Hi Folks, I'm trying to burn a CD with K3B. When I click burn it comes up with an error that says " cdrecord has no permission to open the device " and " modify device settings in K3B ". How do I modify device settings? can't find settings .s. ".
[20:47] <theMetamorphosis> johnone Try this: sudo chmod 4711 /usr/bin/wodim; sudo chmod 4711 /usr/bin/cdrdao
[20:47] <theMetamorphosis> What is the distro you are running?
[22:18] <valorie> Roey: because IRC is the best, bar none
[22:18] <valorie> on the phone: signal
[22:19] <valorie> or telegram for bridged chans
[22:19] <valorie> irc on the phone suuuuuuucks
[22:19] <Roey> ;)
[23:09] <faLUCE> hello. How can I run a python script on linux by clicking with the mouse on it?
 echo "#/usr/bin/python3" > hw.py
 echo "print('Hello World')" >> hw.py
 chmod +x hw.py
 you now have a python script that can run when clicked in dolphin


[16:10] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: wow. rgh is smarter than that, he should know better.
[16:10] <Eickmeyer[m]> I'm sitting here facepalming.


[03:01] <wallyworld> kelvinliu: if you have any time this arvo, otherwise can wait til next week https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11838
[03:02] <kelvinliu> wallyworld: yep, will have a look later
[03:58] <kelvinliu> wallyworld: so will existing dev path entries be replaced with UUID one?
[03:58] <wallyworld> kelvinliu: yeah
[03:58] <wallyworld> if the uuid is known
[04:23] <kelvinliu> wallyworld: lgtm, if tested on existing applications with storage.
[04:23] <wallyworld> kelvinliu: ty
[04:23] <kelvinliu> np
[09:52] <manadart_> stickupkid or achilleasa: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11839
[09:56] <stickupkid> manadart_, you need to rebase to trigger the github actions
[10:00] <manadart_> stickupkid: Done.
[12:13] <manadart_> Need a forward merge review: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11841
[16:00] <stickupkid> hml, I don't think we should update the error message for the invalid endpoint, because we're not using live data yet. i.e. do we get a 404 for `juju info invalid`
[16:01] <stickupkid> hml, if that's the case, then we'll need to do something else to validate the url
[16:01] <hml> stickupkid: it was from google.com
[16:01] <hml> so passes url validity checks, but… can’t do anything useful
[16:02] <stickupkid> hml, quick ho/
[16:02] <stickupkid> ?
[16:02] <hml> stickupkid: sure


[00:01] <valorie[m]> Sorry, too much to type
[00:02]  * valorie[m] uploaded an image: 20180109_160114.jpg (4806KB) <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/mIztlWiOXyRQcgfadSCMvGEb>
[00:03] <valorie[m]> Changing to telegram on other laptop
[00:04] <acheronuk> can you boot into the previous kernel?
[00:06] <tsimonq2> valorie[m]: Have you tried just history.log with no extensions?
[00:07] <tsimonq2> And that's because pastebinit can't deal with compressed data ;)
 I'll move to #kubuntu for support, sorry about that
 and I'll try to boot to previous kernel
 dunno why I didn't think of that
 thanks, @acheronuk
[00:18] <valorie> and logging into the older kernel worked
[00:18] <valorie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26356535/ is interesting
[00:21] <valorie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26356544/ for the log
[00:21] <valorie> so much easier to type when it's not so tiny I need a magnifying glass to read it
[00:23] <valorie> nothing nvidia in there though
[00:26] <acheronuk> you use nouveau then?
[00:26] <valorie> I guess?
[00:27] <valorie> I thought I was using nvidia but....
[00:28] <valorie> I'm not using the firmware at least
[00:28] <valorie> apt-cache policy nvidia gives me nothing
[00:29] <acheronuk> not entirely sure with that. I've used the proprietary driver for ever I think
[00:29] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: any idea?
[00:30] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: No clue, if valorie was a random person in #lubuntu I'd suggest going to #ubuntu for help because it seems to be a distro-neutral thing :)
[00:31] <acheronuk> at least you have a working session with the old kernel. that is more than can often happen with these things!
[00:34] <valorie> oh, driver manager
[00:34] <valorie> how did I forget
[00:36] <valorie> oh, I'm using 381.22 nvidia
[00:37] <valorie> how does one decide if there is a better driver? I think I just allowed driver-manager to choose, or chose what it advised
[00:38] <valorie> oh, it recommends upgrading to the 384 when I scroll
[00:38] <valorie> sheehs, what a ditz today
[00:38] <acheronuk> I always go with the newest with support for my card
[00:39] <valorie> upgrading
[00:39] <valorie> I think I'll postpone restarting until we return from or finish dinner
[00:39] <acheronuk> see if it builds a module for the new kernel as well
[00:40] <valorie> it's being really slow
[00:40] <valorie> so I imagine so
[00:41] <acheronuk> gone midnight here, so I'm going to have to say goodnight anyway
[00:41] <valorie> niters
[00:41] <valorie> and it doesn't tell me to reboot
[00:41] <acheronuk> if that new kernel hates Nvidia, there will no doubts be others shouting on IRC/forums/askubuntu soon ;)
[00:41] <valorie> ttyl
[00:42] <valorie> sweet dreams and thanks again
[00:42] <acheronuk> ZZZZzzzz....
[00:43] <acheronuk> hope you sort it :)
 me too
 now to update *this* lil lappy
[04:42] <valorie> by the way, that update went great
[04:43] <valorie> I will maybe upgrade it to Bionic next week
[05:01] <tsimonq2> \o/
[07:03] <acheronuk> :D
[21:41] <valorie> so with the amount of testing we have, do you think our dot one images should be marked as ready to go?
[21:42] <valorie> gosh I miss falkon
[21:50] <tsimonq2> valorie: I'm +1 on marking Kubuntu 17.10.1 as gtg
[21:51] <valorie> acheronuk: I'd like to hear your opinion too
[21:51] <valorie> I'm inclined to dooot
[21:51] <valorie> but we do have some bugs
[21:51] <tsimonq2> Are they regressions compared to the last point release?\
[21:52] <valorie> no
[21:52] <valorie> but gosh it would be nice to see that fix made
[21:56] <tsimonq2> Right
[21:56] <tsimonq2> It's doable.
[21:56] <valorie> weeee, he's lookin
[21:56] <tsimonq2> Who is?
[21:57] <valorie> cyphermox
[21:57] <tsimonq2> Ah, ok.
[22:09] <acheronuk> doubt a fix will happen for tomorrow. but I have permission to mark ready tomorrow during the day UK time, if not
[22:10] <tsimonq2> Lubuntu is going to mark as ready shortly.
[22:11] <acheronuk> in fact, I think a fix is just unreasonable for this
[22:11] <acheronuk> this is a one issue re-spin
[22:12] <tsimonq2> Right.
[22:12] <tsimonq2> I agree with that.
[22:12] <acheronuk> any regressions = no = ready
[22:12] <tsimonq2> Right, and "regression" is defined as "compared to 17.10 did anything break?"
[22:13] <acheronuk> indeed. oem was furked on that
[22:15] <tsimonq2> Kool, glad we're on the same page :)
[22:16] <acheronuk> + even if possible, updating the oem stuff to fix kubuntu's issue, would likely require a round of re-tests by all flavours
[22:17] <acheronuk> lets just get this out, and deal with for 18.04
[22:18] <acheronuk> but not forget it until too late for a release as we seem to have done since 2015!
[22:18] <tsimonq2> Right
[22:20] <acheronuk> an LTS without a working OEM install for Kubuntu would be soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bad
[22:30] <valorie> ok
[22:30] <valorie> I just saw an opening with cyphermox and jumped on 'im
[22:31] <valorie> marked as ready


[00:10] <Bashing-om> OK, back up - fsck says I have no problem . Good deal !
[00:15] <Bashing-om> Nope, still with problems in the GUI .. going down and see what I can find out .
[00:16] <OerHeks> read only, sure smart is oke?
[00:19] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: Well . was OK last I checked .. now however .. I getting sector I/O errors .. LiveDVD e2fsck here I come .
[02:18] <Bashing-om> OK, back up . RFO .. suspect dust on the sata connection cable, as fsck and SMART saw no problems after cleaning again and L O O K I N G . So far so good .
[02:19] <Bashing-om> I will no longer be a terminal snob .. I did know/realize how much I would miss a GUI 'til I did not have one !
[02:25] <OerHeks> awesome :-
[02:25] <Bashing-om> fingers crossed . Time will tell :)
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:06] <nicomachus> evening
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> hey there nicomachus
[04:06] <nicomachus> how's life across the pond?
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> great on this side :p
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> its been a while since ive seen graphics issues in main...
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> perhaps xenial has improved overall graphics card support
[04:08] <nicomachus> I want to think it's because more are using the OS drivers
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> yeah probably
[04:10] <nicomachus> I'm trying to figure out if this MP3 is actually 192 kbps or not. but I'm not real good at spectrum analysis
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: does properties of the mp3 not show it?
[04:13] <nicomachus> yea but that doesn't mean it wasn't transcoded up from 128 or something
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> ah
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> not sure on that
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: maybe the ubuntu studio guys might know it
[04:14] <nicomachus> there's an audiophile channel at #redditaudio. they'll know
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> cool
[05:17] <Bashing-om> All is well for a night that ends well - OS still up and looking stable . G nite
[05:21] <daftykins> :>
[06:10] <ducasse> morning all
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> hello ducasse & daftykins
[06:11] <ducasse> hi lotus - all good?
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> yeah splendid day off here, what about in norway?
[06:12] <ducasse> freezing :-/
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> aww
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> thats the minus side of a beautifull country :p
[06:13] <ducasse> weather is good but it's quite cold. even the cat stays inside :)
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> anyone has a million dollar plz?
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/revenant-peanuts-movie-piracy-1-1-million-20th-century-fox-1201874892/
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:18] <baizon> yeah that will stop piracy for sure :D
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> baizon: they set an example, dont steal from the studios :p
[06:20] <baizon> like i said, that will stop piracy for sure :D
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> heh
[06:21] <baizon> especially from countrys that dont give a f*** about the us law
[06:22] <ducasse> netflix has probably done more to reduce piracy than mpaa and the studios ever will.
[06:22] <baizon> that is so true
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> now europe wants to force google about android monopoly lol
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> war of the giants
[06:28] <baizon> yep, it started with apple
[06:28] <baizon> maybe then i can finally buy an ubuntu phone :)
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> lolll
[06:30] <baizon> i mean 13 billion, thats good money
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> does that even fit on my account number?
[06:30] <lotuspsychje><PHONE_NUMBER>000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
[06:31] <baizon> :)
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> ok breakfast guys
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> see you all later and dont spend too much money ok :p
[07:56] <lordievader> Good morning.
[13:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy all


[10:20] <mpt> snwh, when you're back, I have some news about the Dash settings
[13:04] <snwh> mpt, good news I hope :)
[13:23] <mpt> snwh, do you remember yesterday how I asked you if you'd talked with didrocks?
[13:23] <snwh> mpt, I do
[13:24] <mpt> snwh, and do you remember how I said I wasn't involved in Unity directly?
[13:24] <mpt> snwh, well, we had a bit of a mix-up
[13:25] <mpt> snwh, pattoin here is a designer at Canonical who has been working on a quick fix for 12.10 for didrocks to implement.
[13:25] <mpt> Yesterday and today.
[13:26] <mpt> She didn't know about your work, and I didn't know about hers. :-]
[13:26] <snwh> okay :)
[13:26] <mpt> I showed her your work this morning, and we're interested in developing it further for 13.04
[13:27] <snwh> That's awesome.
[13:27] <mpt> Meanwhile, here's the design work pattoin has done for 12.10: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/presentation/d/1wcFF2Kl156c_9qmD2fCsYzO4700vuJ4T3EJ1nN9wdU4/edit?pli=1#slide=id.g2e54c4f8_2_10
[13:28] <snwh> Very nice
[13:29] <snwh> Privacy I would imagine is a more logical place to put it over the Appearance; it's not strictly an appearance setting or behaviour
[13:31] <snwh> also, mpt, I did a couple things with messaging icons: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7027392/messaging-menu-ambiance.png & https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7027392/messaging-menu-radiance.png
[13:31] <pattoin> snwh: Hi
[13:31] <pattoin> snwh: I am Patricia, or pattoin in here
[13:32] <snwh> pattoin, Hi, I'm Sam
[13:32] <pattoin> mpt: has told me about you and the situation
[13:33] <pattoin> snwh: thank you with your design help, it is great to meet you so we could discusse and work together
[13:33] <snwh> pattoin, thanks & likewise :)
[13:34] <snwh> I thought it was something within my abilities that I could try and contribute to the project.
[13:36] <pattoin> snwh: yes, I have to design it quicly just yesterday and the reason why I include appeareance is because I did a quick user research and test and  some more people will change it in 'appereance'
[13:36] <snwh> users are interesting folks
[13:36] <pattoin> they were thinking about hiding ui
[13:38] <pattoin> but the more people understand what it really means, then they will go for privacy
[13:39] <snwh> I guess less familiar users will go for the former, whereas everyone else who somewhat understands it will pick privacy
[13:40] <pattoin> snwh: indeed
[13:42] <pattoin> anyway we can continue designing it, with your ideas for the next cycle and we have also some discussion to give a more relevant access to 'search results settings'
[13:43] <pattoin> and also that the functionality of disable online content sources can be done in the dash UI itself
[13:43] <pattoin> what do you think?
[13:43] <snwh> I look forward to it :)
[13:44] <pattoin> a lot of people when I did the small user test they thought they can just swith it off from the dash itself next to the title
[13:46] <snwh> how would that be implemented?
[13:49] <snwh> Since we already drag and drop to trash, perhaps a similar action as well.
[13:50] <snwh> drag and drop lenses from the dash
[15:22] <snwh> mpt, what if the messaging menu used the status icon and the envelope appeared as an overlay? like this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7027392/alternate-message-icon1.png
[15:23] <mpt> snwh, it's quite difficult to tell that that envelope is an envelope
[15:24] <mpt> the dot and the envelope are really fighting for space, in a way that they aren't if the roles are reversed
[15:25] <snwh> but with the dot the envelope will only appear with a new message
[15:25] <mpt> Remember, too, that a lot of the time -- possibly most of the time, once bug 1056457 is fixed -- there will be no dot
[15:26] <mpt> because by default you'll have no chat accounts, therefore no chat status
[15:26] <snwh> then it could just be the old envelope
[15:26] <snwh> which could also be the offline/quit icon?
[15:26] <mpt> An envelope that shrinks and moves whenever you go online?
[15:27] <snwh> no envelope
[15:27] <snwh> just the blue one
[15:27] <snwh> as a "popup"
[15:27] <snwh> overlay* on new message
[15:27] <snwh> and only an envelope with no chat app or offline.
[15:28] <mpt> You have new messages, therefore a blue envelope. You open the menu and change from Offline to Available. The blue envelope shuffles and shrinks to make way for the Available icon.
[15:28] <mpt> Is that what you meant?
[15:29] <snwh> this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7027392/alternate-message-icon2.png
[15:29] <snwh> then https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7027392/alternate-message-icon1.png for a new message
[15:30] <snwh> and https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7027392/alternate-message-icon3.png for offline/no chat app
[15:31] <snwh> the only time a double icon would occur would be a chat status + a new message
[15:31] <snwh> is what i was thinking
[15:32] <mpt> What would it look like if you were offline but had new messages?
[15:32] <snwh> blue envelope
[15:32] <mpt> So, the blue envelope would be shuffling and shrinking in the scenario I described
[15:33] <mpt> That seems weird to me, since it wouldn't be the fact that you have new messages that was changing.
[15:34] <snwh> i dont understand what you mean by "shuffling and shrinking"
[15:34] <mpt> Changing from its full size, into an emblem perched at the top right of the green dot.
[15:35] <snwh> okay
[15:35] <snwh> what if a new "new message" emblem were created?
[15:35] <mpt> That could solve the problem of the envelope being hard to recognize at small sizes.
[15:36] <mpt> I don't know what the rest of the icon would look like if you had no chat accounts.
[15:37] <snwh> could keep the white envelope
[15:37] <snwh> and use the new emblem
[15:37] <snwh> so it'll be all the chat icons, plus an envelope for no chat and a new message emblem across all
[15:39] <snwh> a number badge probably would be too small
[15:39] <mpt> snwh, perhaps the easiest way to visualize the change you're thinking of would be to sketch a replacement for the grid of icons at <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu#Title>.
[15:40] <mpt> That way you could see all the possibilities at once, and the possible transitions involved.
[15:41] <snwh> okay
[15:41] <snwh> any thoughts on the alternate chat icons?
[15:42] <mpt> They improve on the current ones in that they're the same visual weight. The drawback is that they're harder to distinguish, especially for people with color impairments.
[15:45] <snwh> thats why there are symbols on the icons
[15:45] <mpt> yes
[15:45] <snwh> i mean i put symbols on them.
[15:45] <snwh> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7027392/messaging-menu-ambiance.png
[15:47] <snwh> i even colour tweaked the screenshots to see if an impairment would make the symbols indistinguishable
[16:23] <snwh> mpt is the width of the indicator fixed?
[16:24] <mpt> snwh, no, different menus have different widths (e.g. the battery icons are wider), but it's probably best if all the title icons for the same menu are the same width.
[16:24] <mpt> That might involve adding/removing a little spacing
[16:25] <snwh> can it fluxuate?
[16:25] <mpt> It can, but as I said, it's probably best if it doesn't
[16:26] <mpt> otherwise things would wobble
[16:26] <mpt> (specially, menus to the left of that one)
[16:26] <snwh> unless it was always furthest left
[16:26] <snwh> but yea i agree
[16:27] <snwh> i was trialing a two icon thing. and it just shrunk to fit in the indicator
[16:28] <snwh> an icon with chat status icon + new mail icon @16x34px and just the chat icon at 16x16
[16:29] <snwh> unless the mail icon was always present. and the indicator had two icons, is that possible?
[16:30] <snwh> changing icons*
[16:41] <snwh> mpt, may i suggest this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7027392/screenshot1.png https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7027392/screenshot2.png
[16:42] <mpt> snwh, promising
[16:42] <mpt> I like that it dramatically reduces the amount of blue
[16:42] <mpt> (our blue is pretty fluorescent)
[16:42] <snwh> it really is
[16:43] <snwh> i had the mail icon there first, but thought to make it simpler
[16:43] <mpt> On the other hand, it still has the wobble, though maybe that's a feature rather than a bug
[16:43] <mpt> a slight animation to draw your attention
[16:43] <snwh> exactly
[16:43] <snwh> changes from 22px wide to 23
[16:44] <snwh> if i remove a px from the right edge it wouldnt wobble
[16:44] <snwh> but like you said: it adds slight animation
[17:29] <snwh> mpt, critique? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7027392/screenshot-ambiance.png https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7027392/screenshot-radiance.png
[17:46] <snwh> ..or sabdfl? :)
[20:56] <sabdfl> snwh, don't like it not being an envelope
[20:56] <sabdfl> we didn't have online state
[20:56] <sabdfl> so just because we CAN add it for non-colour blind people
[20:56] <sabdfl> doesn't mean we have to make the iconography cryptic
[20:57] <sabdfl> please let's keep the basic envelope
[20:57] <sabdfl> at most, open the envelope when it's in the "action" state
[20:57] <sabdfl> and use the colour
[20:57] <sabdfl> but
[20:57] <sabdfl> "normal" (i.e. connected) should be plain mono white-ish
[20:57] <sabdfl> i.e. do not show a colour when in the normal active state
[20:58] <sabdfl> and just darken it slightly when NOT connected
[20:58] <sabdfl> don't be garish
[20:58] <sabdfl> i want my indicators plain when all is normal
[20:58] <sabdfl> no colour by default
[20:58] <sabdfl> ok?
[21:05] <snwh> sabdfl, no problem just an idea.
[22:08] <snwh> sabdfl, what is the plan for the icons?


[10:09] <sovieticool>  this is it.. what is the last version ?
[10:09] <polpak> reflect,  you've seen this?? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75281&highlight=double+clock+speed+amd64
[10:10] <polpak> twopeak, sudo apt-get remove gaim ?
[10:10] <sovieticool> when ubuntu develepers release a pack for install XGL on ubuntu 5.10 ?
[10:11] <polpak> sovieticool, never?
[10:11] <Kyral> Never
[10:11] <gnomefreak> sovieticool: they cant
[10:11] <hcatlin> Anyone know how to force ubuntu into single user mode?
[10:11] <sovieticool> why ?
[10:11] <twopeak> polpak: is removing "ubuntu-desktop" safe?
[10:11] <polpak> sovieticool, dapper will have unsupported packages for it
[10:11] <welshbyte> would this be an appropriate place to enquire about an aspect of ubuntu's mailman system administration? (the ubuntu mailing lists)
[10:11] <Kyral> Its too unstable
[10:11] <gnomefreak> xorg is different
[10:11] <Kyral> You have to understand
[10:11] <luopio> AFAIK, you won't need XGL soon to get compiz to work
[10:11] <Kyral> whereas XCompMgr is an extension to XOrg
[10:12] <polpak> twopeak, sort of
[10:12] <Kyral> XGL is an entirely new XServer
[10:12] <polpak> twopeak,  it just means you won't be able to dist upgrade I think
[10:12] <polpak> twopeak, it's just a meta package
[10:12] <VR_> twopeak: did you install gtk from gtk.org did you find a .deb?
[10:12] <polpak> VR_, it's in synaptic
[10:12] <sovieticool> XGL is a nice project to bad is not working on ubuntu :(
[10:12] <VR_> polpak: yeah but it's probably an old version
[10:13] <twopeak> VR_ I installed gtk from synaptic
[10:13] <polpak> sovieticool, works fine on dapper
[10:13] <sovieticool> what is dapper ?? sory noob :)
[10:13] <polpak> !dapper
[10:13] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[10:13] <twopeak> VR_ libgtk2.0-dev did the job, after that i got no errors anymore.
[10:13] <jmoncayo> need some help here
[10:13] <VR_> polpak, twopeak: thanks
[10:13] <steff> hello, I need a client for downloading .. something else than gtk-gnutella.. any suggestions?
[10:13] <reflect> polpak: hm, no.. I'll take a peek at that. thank you
[10:13] <polpak> !limewire
[10:13] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[10:13] <polpak> !frostwire
[10:14] <polpak> hrmph
[10:14] <polpak> !tell steff about limewire
[10:14] <polpak> !tell steff about frostwire
[10:14] <sovieticool> polpak, then i will wait for next release ;)
[10:14] <steff> thanx polpak
[10:14] <polpak> sovieticool, smart man =)
[10:15] <jmoncayo> hey
[10:15] <IdleOne> bee
[10:15] <jmoncayo> i need to set up a wireless network on an amd64 laptop need some help
[10:15] <sovieticool> i will make a new order to guys to send me the fresh dapper :D
[10:16] <polpak> sovieticool, you can always just download it
[10:16] <alarsson> hi, I can't get my printer minolta pagepro 1300w to function im ubuntu 5.10, I'm using the recommended driver
[10:16] <IdleOne> !tell jmoncayo about woreless
[10:16] <aaron_> irc://irc.mircaddict.net/13
[10:16] <IdleOne> !tell jmoncayo about wireless
[10:16] <aaron_> irc://irc.mircaddict.net/13
[10:16] <IdleOne> woreless is a totally different thing :P
[10:16] <aaron_> irc://irc.mircaddict.net/13
[10:16] <tanuki_> noip2
[10:16] <IdleOne> !ops
[10:16] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[10:16] <polpak> IdleOne, indeed
[10:16] <sovieticool> yeah but if i say my internet connection :(((
[10:17] <Seveas> IdleOne, ?
[10:17] <IdleOne> aaron_, spamming other networks is LAME
[10:17] <sovieticool> 32 k per sec
[10:17] <Seveas> bye bye birdie
[10:17] <IdleOne> :)
[10:17] <sovieticool> lol
[10:18] <hcatlin> Alright, try again: Anyone know how to boot an ubuntu box into single user mode?
[10:18] <sovieticool> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+specs  .. nice look ..ssss develepers work :)
[10:19] <Kyral> hcatlin: you see "Recovery Mode" in the GRUB Menu?
[10:19] <trappist> hcatlin: hit esc to get the grub menu and choose a recovery mode option
[10:19] <hcatlin> Nope.
[10:19] <hcatlin> Ah!
[10:19] <tanuki_> polpak, are you still there?
[10:19] <hcatlin> Esc!
[10:19] <hcatlin> Thanks guys!
[10:19] <Kyral> yah :P
[10:19] <hcatlin> That was the key.
[10:19] <polpak> tanuki_, yep
[10:19] <hcatlin> I only had one OS, so grub wasn't showing.
[10:20] <tanuki_> polpak, the client i wish to make the startup script for requires some command line flags, where do i put those in the startup script?
[10:20] <polpak> tanuki_, in the start section, after the command
[10:20] <polpak> tanuki_, can you pastebin what you have so far?
[10:21] <polpak> !pastebin
[10:21] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[10:21] <twopeak> Polpak, IdleOne, VR_: thanks for the help, the make for Gaim is busy and i crossed my fingers so it will go on till the end.
[10:21] <jmoncayo> had somebody have installed the wireless broadcom BCM4306 on amd64
[10:21] <tanuki_> polpak, http://pastebin.com/654236
[10:22] <mwe> jmoncayo: I think you may have better luck on google with that question
[10:22] <_sebastian> hey
[10:22] <jmoncayo> mwe, my problem is in the last step of installation
[10:22] <_sebastian> i need help
[10:22] <_sebastian> how do change input methods in ubuntu
[10:22] <tanuki_> polpak, i am having trouble to get the client to run the way i want it to, i get the command line options when i run the script, i want it to read the config file and start the client
[10:23] <_sebastian> i need to type in polish fonts
[10:23] <mwe> jmoncayo: I doubt it's suppossed to work out of the box
[10:23] <jmoncayo> mwe, when modprobe
[10:23] <alarsson> anyone else experienced problems with ubuntu and minolta pagepro 1300w?
[10:23] <jmoncayo> mwe, when modprobe ndiswrapper: FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[10:23] <Vlieg> use sudo
[10:23] <mwe> jmoncayo: does ndiswrapper even work for 64bit?
[10:23] <Vlieg> :P
[10:24] <polpak> tanuki_, ok, well there some problems with what you have there
[10:24] <tanuki_> polpak, ok
[10:25] <polpak> tanuki_, join #polpak and I'll help you there
[10:25] <jmoncayo> mwe, i think so because i did apt-get install ndiswrapper and it got installed
[10:25] <Vlieg> right :s
[10:25] <Vlieg> well i'm running ndiswrapper atm
[10:25] <mwe> jmoncayo: yeah. just checked the faq. since version 1.0 amd 64 is supported in 64 bit mode
[10:25] <Vlieg> on 64 bit
[10:26] <sovieticool> guys what is whit firefox when i try to enter a page he close himself whitout any error !!
[10:26] <Vlieg> buffer to big
[10:26] <stjepan> what do you prefer: gtk or qt?
[10:26] <Tm_T> Qt
[10:26] <mwe> jmoncayo: the ndiswrapper module is included in the linux-image package which is installed on all systems, I believe
[10:26] <Vlieg> clear all temp stuff....
[10:26] <stjepan> Tm_T: why? :)
[10:27] <luopio> stjepan: GTK
[10:27] <Vlieg> well
[10:27] <stjepan> luopio: why???
[10:27] <Vlieg> i've got another question
[10:27] <Vlieg> i'm ssh-ed into a box
[10:27] <luopio> stjepan: it starts with a G and the name is longer
[10:27] <obli> Isn't there any program that play midis in ubuntu?
[10:27] <Tm_T> luopio: you... mrrrh!
[10:27] <mwe> jmoncayo: it even says broadcom should be well supported
[10:27] <jmoncayo> mwe, well so i get this have any ideas: jmoncayo@linux:~$ sudo ndiswrapper -m
[10:27] <jmoncayo> Adding "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper
[10:27] <jmoncayo> Architecture-specific modutils configuration for x86_64 not found, using defaults
[10:27] <Vlieg> and i want to run a terminal inside a terminal window
[10:27] <sovieticool> same problem :((
[10:27] <Vlieg> so that when i close it, the program running on it won't quit
[10:27] <stjepan> Tm_T: why do u personally prefer Qt?
[10:28] <Apostle^> Vlieg: use screen
[10:28] <zmo> Vlieg: or &
[10:28] <k31th> wats that cmd which checks hds ?
[10:28] <Apostle^> Vlieg: screen programname
[10:28] <mwe> jmoncayo: and you can't modprobe ndiswrapper?
[10:28] <gepatino> Vlieg: try launching the process in bakground (command &)
[10:28] <Vlieg> hm
[10:28] <Vlieg> well lets see
[10:28] <Tm_T> stjepan: I'm KDE person, also afaik Qt is easier, more flexible (oh, and more C++)
[10:28] <aiduciukas> can anyone help with linux swap? i did new partition with linux swap filesystem and it's size is 2gb, but linux don't see that partition, now i haven't any swap space
[10:28] <jmoncayo> mwe, nope modprobe ndiswrapper
[10:29] <luopio> stjepan: I guess you just have to choose one. It's not the biggest choice of your life.. all toolkits are pretty much alike (ducks)
[10:29] <stjepan> Tm_T: do you like mac osx like menubar?
[10:29] <jmoncayo> FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[10:29] <Vlieg> the problem here is
[10:29] <Vlieg> that the box doesn't have a screen
[10:29] <reflect> polpak: on a related question.. could time skipping have any effect on data written to disk?
[10:29] <aiduciukas> can anyone help with linux swap? i did new partition with linux swap filesystem and it's size is 2gb, but linux don't see that partition, now i haven't any swap space
[10:29] <Vlieg> or a 3d card
[10:29] <Tm_T> stjepan: nope
[10:29] <gepatino> Vlieg: you could also use 'nohup' to launch the process, i think this way its not interrupted if you kill your session (man nohup)
[10:29] <stjepan> Tm_T: why?
[10:29] <mwe> jmoncayo: odd. it should be installed on the base system I believe
[10:30] <Tm_T> stjepan: why should I :p
[10:30] <reflect> polpak: for instance, audio/video data streams
[10:30] <stjepan> Tm-T: mac osx like menubar doesn't take so much place on the screen
[10:30] <luopio> aiduciukas: do a fdisk -p /dev/hda
[10:30] <Vlieg> that works
[10:30] <Tm_T> stjepan: over half of the windows here doesn't have menubar at all
[10:30] <Vlieg> and now make sure that the stuppid thing aint leaving a log
[10:30] <Vlieg> thanks anyway
[10:30] <Tm_T> stjepan: so doesn't safe pixels in my desktop
[10:30] <geek_syndicate> anyone know what the command for listing all drives are?
[10:30] <IdleOne> stjepan, you can make the menu bar auto hide in ubuntu ( right click > properties )
[10:30] <luopio> aiduciukas: that'll print out the partitions on your first hardrive. Then you'll have to spot the one that is your swap
[10:31] <port7> mount?
[10:31] <firstadmin> ls /dev ?
[10:31] <IdleOne> geek_syndicate, du -sh ?
[10:31] <stjepan> Tm_T: :-o oh man, what apps do you use
[10:31] <stjepan> ?
[10:31] <geek_syndicate> ok, thanks
[10:31] <port7> df -h
[10:31] <Tm_T> stjepan: many
[10:31] <stjepan> Tm_T: do you like baghira?
[10:31] <Tm_T> stjepan: nah
[10:32] <polpak> reflect, I'm not sure. I'd imagine so for streaming media
[10:32] <bliss1_> hi all
[10:32] <Tm_T> stjepan: my desktops some time ago http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/desktops/
[10:32] <IdleOne> yeah df -h
[10:32] <aiduciukas> luopio, what command is -p? because fdisk says that that comman doesn't exists
[10:32] <IdleOne> I always mix them up
[10:32] <bliss1_> IdleOne hi you hanging in there
[10:33] <IdleOne> bliss1_, I'm chillin and you?
[10:33] <luopio> aiduciukas: sorry.. remembered wrong. the whole command would be "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda"
[10:33] <aiduciukas> thx
[10:33] <Centaur5> How can I kill the xserver?
[10:33] <bliss1_> IdleOne; staying cool
[10:34] <port7> Centaur5: ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:34] <polpak> Centaur5, ctrl-alt-backspace works pretty good
[10:34] <digen> Centaur5, ctrl + alt + backspace?
[10:34] <Centaur5> port7: Doesn't that just restart it and go back to the login screen?
[10:34] <port7> yeah
[10:34] <port7> you want to kill it dead?
[10:34] <aiduciukas> luopio, so what? I wrote that command:
[10:34] <aiduciukas> sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[10:34] <aiduciukas> ooops
[10:34] <aiduciukas> Disk /dev/hda: 61.4 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>0 bytes
[10:34] <aiduciukas> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7476 cylinders
[10:34] <aiduciukas> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[10:34] <aiduciukas>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[10:34] <aiduciukas> /dev/hda1   *           1        6128    49223128+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[10:34] <aiduciukas> /dev/hda2            6129        7476    10827810    5  Extended
[10:34] <aiduciukas> /dev/hda5            6375        7476     8851783+  83  Linux
[10:34] <aiduciukas> /dev/hda6            6129        6374     1975932   83  Linux
[10:34] <Centaur5> port7: Apparently that wasn't sufficient cause these nvidia drivers still say an xserver is running
[10:34] <aiduciukas> Partition table entries are not in disk order
[10:34] <zomak> I cant get aterm showing UTF8 characters. is the problem with ubuntu installation or with aterm's incapability to show UTF8?
[10:34] <roostishaw> PASTEBIN!
[10:34] <sfar> i have this really annoying issue.. i have two users on this computer.. with one of the users the screensaver is lagging, and fglrxinfo returns "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server" ... but with the other user the screensaver is running smoothly and fglrxinfo returns ATI blabla (correct).. please help
[10:35] <calamari> hi
[10:35] <port7> /etc/init.d/gdm stop?
[10:35] <aiduciukas> maybe stopx?
[10:35] <aiduciukas> or killx
[10:35] <Centaur5> port7: Okay, I'll try that out
[10:35] <calamari> I just did rm *  instead of rm *~   .. am I screwed or can I get the files back (ext3)  /
[10:35] <bliss1_> aiduciukas nice one try patebin
[10:35] <aiduciukas> plz say from a to z
[10:35] <mwe> zmo: aterm doesn't support utf-8. use rxvt-unicode instead
[10:35] <Centaur5> Thanks port7 and everyone else
[10:35] <port7> you might want to do it from a vterm, so ctrl-alt-f1
[10:35] <mwe> zomak: ^^
[10:36] <zomak> mwe: got it ;)
[10:36] <port7> np
[10:36] <gepatino> calamari: its very difficult to restore files after rm
[10:36] <Centaur5> port7: Yeah, I already went into a vterm thinking I could still have the gdm login screen open
[10:36] <luopio> aiduciukas: ok.. try "sudo swapon -s" that should print all your swap-partitions
[10:36] <calamari> gepatino: how do I do it?
[10:36] <Centaur5> Didn't know how to get out of that
[10:36] <zomak> mwe: so. you can use all the nice things in .Xdefaults for urxvt also?
[10:36] <bliss1_> nickrud: ping ping still tied to your deask?
[10:36] <mwe> zomak: transparency is supported in that too but is configured a bit different
[10:36] <bliss1_> desk
[10:36] <calamari> gepatino: I don't cxare how hard it is.. :)
[10:36] <aiduciukas> luopio, nothing
[10:36] <mwe> zomak: you can do the same things but the resources are different
[10:36] <zanaga> i'm trying to figure out why dmix is failing on my laptop (with an USB headset) is there any way to make libasound more verbose on the selections it's making?
[10:37] <crimsun> zanaga: dmix is not enabled for usb devices.
[10:37] <gepatino> calamari: shutdown the computer as fast as you can, without doing 'shutdown'... i mean you must 'unplug it' so discs are not synced (if they are not already synced)
[10:37] <mwe> zomak: it's all explained in man urxvt
[10:37] <zomak> mwe: roger that, got to search for some manual pages for correct recourxes.
[10:37] <zomak> mwe: aye
[10:37] <luopio> aiduciukas: shheeeesssh.. how about system->administration->disks?
[10:37] <zanaga> crimsun, oh? why?
[10:37] <crimsun> zanaga: that is, not enabled _by default_
[10:37] <crimsun> zanaga: not enough useful feedback upstream
[10:37] <calamari> gepatino: probably too late for that
[10:37] <gepatino> and then 'maybe' you could restore the erased files when fsck cryies that the volumes where not safely umounted
[10:38] <zanaga> crimsun, hmm.. ok
[10:38] <zomak> mwe: ...or i could change my system back to ISO-8859-1
[10:38] <gepatino> calamari: then a backup?
[10:38] <calamari> gepatino: there isn't an undelete tool?
[10:38] <gepatino> calamari: afak, no
[10:38] <polpak> calamari, it's unlikely that you'll be able to recover
[10:38] <calamari> gepatino: fat16/32 have undelete tools..
[10:38] <mwe> zomak: I don't think it's a good idea, but you could
[10:38] <calamari> is ext3 inherently less stable or something?
[10:38] <zanaga> crimsun, is there any way to make libasound more verbose? so i could give a shot at enabling dmix on my setup
[10:38] <gepatino> calamari: yes, but unix systems don't forgive errors
[10:38] <sovieticool> handyrecovery calamari
[10:38] <IdleOne> calamari, linux isnt for the faint of heart. you did it now live with it hehe :)
[10:39] <calamari> IdleOne: how nice :)
[10:39] <zomak> mwe: maybe it isnt, but at least more compatible with the other OS
[10:39] <crimsun> zanaga: you'd need to use plug:dmix or create an ~/.asoundrc
[10:39] <gepatino> calamari: it doesnt have to do with stability
[10:39] <IdleOne> calamari, there must be some tools for recovery. google might help you out
[10:39] <mwe> zomak: what other OS?
[10:39] <port7> anyone know what version of openssh is due in dapper?
[10:39] <zomak> mwe: m$
[10:39] <calamari> one thing's for sure, I'm turninng off  the dumb ~ thing in gedit, never want this to happen again
[10:39] <zanaga> crimsun, plug:dmix sends the output to the speakers on the laptop, so i have to resort to creating a .asoundrc ;)
[10:39] <mwe> zomak: doesn't at least XP support unicode?
[10:39] <aiduciukas> luopio, http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/9986/screenshot47ja.png here's screen of system->admin..._>disks
[10:40] <gepatino> calamari: the problem is that while you use your computer, and save new files, you could be overwriting the sectors that contains the files you've deleted
[10:40] <zomak> mwe: if i remember correctly XP and 2003 are the only ones to support
[10:40] <mwe> zomak: maybe
[10:40] <calamari> gepatino: doesn't matter tho, as there is so sector editor in linux
[10:40] <calamari> so -> no
[10:40] <errpast1> My gnome screen saver on Breezy (>system>preferences>screensaver)  is set for "fadePlot", but I keep getting some other scrren save image after X minutes (lot's of colors)
[10:40] <liran_> is there any chance to get a sony (cmr-pc2) usb webcam installed and working on linux?
[10:41] <mwe> zomak: if you insist, make sure you have the locales and configure your locale in /etc/environment
[10:41] <zomak> mwe: i think im sticking with UTF
[10:41] <aiduciukas> luopio, http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/9986/screenshot47ja.png here's screen of system->admin..._>disks
[10:41] <zomak> mwe: anyway, i thank you :) you've been a great deal of help.
[10:41] <gepatino> calamari: use rm with care, almost never as root, and be extra carefull with rm -rf (i've erased the hole /bin by mistake... :()
[10:41] <luopio> aiduciukas: ok. try this "sudo swapon -L /dev/hda6"
[10:41] <twopeak> grrrr, I spent two hours installing Gaim, to find out I should have added SSL... I can start again...
[10:41] <mwe> zomak: yw
[10:42] <Aeos> Hi, this is my first install of linux. I have installed ubuntu 10.0 and cannot seem to get my lan cards to work
[10:42] <bliss1_> Seveas; are you in the room or just about to log off?
[10:42] <luopio> aiduciukas: actually I just noticed that my swap is not used either.. dunno why..
[10:42] <zomak> mwe: ahh.. yet another question. is it possible to remove sudo from ubuntu?
[10:42] <Tennese> i have k3b and im trying to create a bootable iso, what settings do i need for it?
[10:42] <gepatino> calamari: if you want a recycle bin, use tools like nautilus or konqueror
[10:42] <aiduciukas> swapon: cannot find the device for /dev/hda6
[10:42] <aiduciukas> :(
[10:42] <mwe> zomak: yes but not adviceable. just use sudo -i if you need a root prompt
[10:43] <zomak> mwe: adviceable or not, i prefer the traditional "su" way
[10:43] <luopio> sudo -s i presume?
[10:43] <mwe> zomak: go ahead then
[10:43] <calamari> maybe I should look into using fat again.. at least there is a possiblity of recovery
[10:43] <calamari> pretty strange that ext3 isn't recoverable
[10:43] <zomak> mwe: but removing sudo wont remove anything else? (since it seems to remove ubuntu-minimal also)
[10:43] <Seveas> bliss1_, I am here but pretty busy - please /msg me if you have something to say
[10:43] <mwe> luopio: no sudo -i. sudo -s doesn't read roots environment
[10:43] <luopio> mwe: ok. thanks
[10:43] <calamari> gepatino: people make mistakes.. it should be possible to recover from them
[10:43] <zomak> mwe: offtopic, but why not sudo su ?
[10:43] <_jason> zomak: don't remove sudo, just enable root if you really need to use su for who knows what reason
[10:43] <aiduciukas> luopio, ca i add this line to fstab?: /dev/hda6       none            swap    sw                      0       0
[10:44] <aiduciukas> *can
[10:44] <mwe> zomak: why don't you just keep it and set a root password?
[10:44] <calamari> gepatino: or at least recover as much as possible
[10:44] <bliss1_> Seveas; its ok I know
[10:44] <luopio> aiduciukas: yep. that should start swap on boot
[10:44] <calamari> gepatino: from what I'm hearing, it is impossible completely
[10:44] <calamari> gepatino: and that is just wrong
[10:44] <Tennese> i have k3b and im trying to create a bootable iso, what settings do i need for it?
[10:44] <Aeos> what should I format my drives as? extended?
[10:44] <aiduciukas> ok thanks for help!
[10:44] <ryness> hey i just got my nvidia 7800 installed under Dapper... can anyone recommend any 3D games to try out?
[10:44] <gepatino> calamari: i guess it could be because unixes are multiuser systems, and when you have more than 20 users at the time, sectors are rewriten all the time, so its very unprobable that you could find your data again.
[10:44] <ryness> OR, can I run games through wine??
[10:44] <zomak> mwe: already done it, but can i disable for any useraccount (already made or any accoutn that will be made in future) cant access root priviledges via sudo
[10:44] <SinX> hello, i'm trying to install the nvidia driver... and i need to stop the X server, how can i do it?
[10:45] <mwe> zomak: be aware that all gui apps needing root are configured for using sudo
[10:45] <apoc> hey everyone, im attempting to play a video in my firefox, but totem player error pops up and tells me it cant play "fd://0", what does that mean?
[10:45] <IdleOne> ryness, apt-cache search games
[10:45] <Tennese> i have k3b and im trying to create a bootable iso, what settings do i need for it? ANYON1?
[10:45] <Yan^> Hello people, I did not yet install ubuntu, just some pre-installation questions, ig u don tmind: I found several titles like warty, hoary, breezy, etc. what does it mean? should I choose one during the installation?
[10:45] <gepatino> calamari: besides, command line assumes that you know what youre doing... (no offense here)
[10:45] <ryness> IdleOne, thx, but that's not exactly a recommendation ;)
[10:45] <errpast1> where is the sudo log?
[10:45] <_jason> Yan^: in order of release: warty, hoary, breezy
[10:45] <calamari> gepatino: I know what I'm doing.. I made a typo
[10:45] <mwe> zomak: if you clear the sudoers file noone can use sudo
[10:45] <zomak> mwe: yes i know, and thats something i dont like in ubuntu, but.. there are no better distro for my laptop at the moment (okay, debian but it has way too old packages).
[10:45] <bliss1_> Seveas; i will put it all in a pastebin
[10:45] <Tennese> i have k3b and im trying to create a bootable iso, what settings do i need for it? ANYON1?
[10:45] <zomak> mwe: ok
[10:45] <farous> Yan^: the latest stable is breezy
[10:46] <luopio> aiduciukas: verify that your swap actually shows up on "sudo swapon -s"
[10:46] <gepatino> calamari: that a problem... most of us have made the same mistake
[10:46] <_jason> zomak: or you can just not put anyone in the admin group
[10:46] <zomak> _jason: aye
[10:46] <IdleOne> ryness, it will list all the games in the repos then you can pick the ones you want to try out apt-cache show package will give you a brief description
[10:46] <farous> Yan^: check also ubuntu.com
[10:46] <Yan^> farous, jason: thanks. so the dvd iso which I downloaded (5.10) is breezy, right?
[10:46] <zomak> thanks to _jason too, see you :)
[10:46] <ryness> thx for the apt lesson IdleOne ;)
[10:46] <farous> right
[10:46] <gepatino> calamari: i dont know if you solve the problem using fat32 again, is there any undelete for linux?
[10:46] <drew> yeah, 5.10 is breezy
[10:46] <apoc> im attempting to play a video in my firefox, but totem player error pops up and tells me it cant play "fd://0", what does that mean?
[10:46] <Yan^> thanx!
[10:47] <drew> anyone think that they can help me get the last.fm player working in dapper?
[10:47] <IdleOne> ryness, np. or you can go with someone else tells you to play. I figured I would give you the choice :)
[10:47] <calamari> gepatino: I could reboot into dos and undelete that way
[10:47] <ryness> yes i know how to list them all, i was just looking for any recommendations on particular titles... planetpenguin works fine ;)
[10:48] <ryness> i think i'll try to install some crap via wine
[10:48] <gepatino> calamari: maybe... i dont know
[10:48] <UbuntuNewbie> wow this remote desktop access is neat
[10:48] <gepatino> calamari: but with fat32 you should have fragmentation and all that crap
[10:48] <gepatino> sorry about that...
[10:48] <UbuntuNewbie> only problem is it only works in my local network
[10:48] <zanaga> crimsun, do you know if there is a reason why the USB headset has a device name of 'default'?
[10:48] <gepatino> all that 'stuff'
[10:48] <mwe> all filesystems suffer from fragmentation
[10:48] <crimsun> zanaga: no sound device should ever have a device name of "default"
[10:49] <gepatino> yes, all fs does... but not in an ugly way as fat32
[10:49] <zanaga> crimsun, hmm.. then i've hit a bug..
[10:49] <crimsun> zanaga: alsa-lib encapsulates the actual device nodes, so alsa applications always use what alsa-lib provides as virtual devices.
[10:49] <apoc> im attempting to play a video in my firefox, but totem player error pops up and tells me it cant play "fd://0", what does that mean?
[10:49] <_jason> apoc: what video?
[10:49] <gepatino> in ext2/3 fragmentation is not bad.. meaning you dont need defrag to make your machine go faster
[10:49] <drew> do gnome apps work in xfce?
[10:49] <apoc> i think i may be a flash
[10:49] <_jason> apoc: url?
[10:49] <crimsun> zanaga: i.e., alsa apps always use "default", "hw:X,Y", "plughw:X,Y", and so on
[10:50] <mwe> drew: yes
[10:50] <crimsun> zanaga: alsa apps never access the hardware directly
[10:50] <drew> great, i have been wanting to try that desktop :)
[10:50] <apoc> _jason:hold on
[10:50] <zanaga> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/654311
[10:50] <monkey_> I have a question about a wireless network card is some one would have the time to answer.
[10:50] <zanaga> crimsun, see the name of card 1
[10:50] <RMeist> hi
[10:51] <apoc> _jason:http://www.metacafe.com/watch/101250/dani_california/
[10:51] <mwe> monkey_: don't ask to ask. just ask :)
[10:51] <_jason> apoc: it's a .wmv, you should use mplayer plug-in
[10:51] <ConfidentiaL> A friend of mine had some serious acousations agains linux to use on a server. He stated that windows was much much better then linux, and that the uptime on windows servers was much better. I am shaken by these words, but I would like to hear what you guys have to say to this?
[10:51] <apoc> i dont have that
[10:52] <_jason> ubotu: tell apoc about mplayer
[10:52] <monkey_> oh Im sorry I didnt want to be a rude ass. ;) anyway I have a dell latitude D505 and I have the dell 1450 Wireless mini pci card
[10:52] <mwe> ConfidentiaL: he has no idea what he's taling about
[10:52] <_jason> apoc: first install mplayer and mozilla-mplayer.  When you are done, if it is not working, see !replacetotem
[10:52] <crimsun> zanaga: its device _name_ is not "default"
[10:52] <gepatino> ConfidentiaL: let him be... its a waste of time to discuss with that people
[10:52] <monkey_> I need to know where or what drivers to use on getting it running
[10:52] <RMeist> even tough I supply the correct C header files locations, my program doesn't accept it's path... how to deal with it
[10:52] <crimsun> zanaga: you've fallen victim to a misunderstanding of the encapsulation
[10:52] <zanaga> crimsun, ah.
[10:53] <gepatino> ConfidentiaL: 'some are born to sweet delight/some are born to the endless night'
[10:53] <apoc> _jason: thanks, but whats !replace totem
[10:53] <zanaga> crimsun, but even still that doesn't make too much sense..
[10:53] <_jason> ubotu: tell apoc about replacetotem
[10:53] <crimsun> zanaga: why wouldn't it? Didn't you create an ~/.asoundrc ?
[10:53] <ConfidentiaL> hehe, I just installed linux on my server today ;P
[10:53] <zanaga> crimsun, that is with an empty .asoundrc and the default device is card 0
[10:54] <crimsun> zanaga: that doesn't mean anything at all
[10:54] <monkey_> and in device mangler I can see it there its a BCM4309 802.11a/b/g
[10:54] <errpast1> apt-cache search <package> will show me if a package exists in my listed repositories.  How can I tell WHICH repository it found it in
[10:54] <gepatino> ConfidentiaL: good!! start counting how many times you reboot your server and how many times he dows with his
[10:54] <crimsun> zanaga: that simply means that the device string id assigned by alsa-lib is "default"
[10:54] <errpast1> What if more than one?
[10:54] <zanaga> crimsun, yeah, but it will cause confusion. i knew that it's just an identifier so i didn't get too confused by it.
[10:54] <gepatino> ConfidentiaL: compare numbers in six months/one year
[10:54] <firstadmin> tell firstadmin about !replacetotem
[10:54] <Rudemeister> anyone?
[10:54] <Rudemeister> even tough I supply the correct C header files locations, my program doesn't accept it's path... how to deal with it
[10:55] <intelikey> the package mozilla-browser is hosed in the hoary release.
[10:55] <zanaga> crimsun, it's still not too sane to assing an identifier 'default' to something.
[10:55] <graveson> how do i upgrade my kernel to the latest stable version
[10:55] <crimsun> zanaga: whether it causes confusion or not is arguably not alsa's problem, which is the opinion I hold
[10:55] <ScreaminIke> can i get some support getting apache up and running
[10:55] <ScreaminIke> ?
[10:55] <zanaga> crimsun, i'm not blaming alsa. in fact i'm not blaming anything. ;)
[10:55] <crimsun> zanaga: use ``asoundconf list'' instead
[10:56] <zanaga> crimsun, checking..
[10:56] <farous> graveson: just sudo apitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade and it will be done automatically for you
[10:56] <crimsun> zanaga: err, that's the command in dapper
[10:56] <zanaga> crimsun, luckily i'm in dapper ;)
[10:56] <intelikey> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? <--- the answer is NO !
[10:56] <graveson> farous:is it recommended and advisable
[10:56] <apoc> !mplayer
[10:56] <ubotu> somebody said mplayer was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[10:56] <zanaga> crimsun, now that output will confuse even more people. 2 identifiers "ICH6" and "default"
[10:57] <crimsun> zanaga: if you're in breezy, it's less intuitive, but the crux is that the device string [not id]  is human-readable, or the value in []
[10:57] <crimsun> zanaga: hmm, that's odd
[10:57] <farous> graveson: i never had probs with it. but normally the updates are security ones depending on your repos
[10:57] <ConfidentiaL> gepatino: ok :P I think I would still win even if he has much better hardware on his... :P
[10:57] <apoc> _jason: it sais "# Specify default video driver (see -vo help for a list" i dont get it, where am i to find this list?
[10:57] <dell500> anyone know how to get multiple instances of kaffeine?
[10:58] <_jason> apoc: that's just a comment, type it in as you see it
[10:58] <jenda> Hello. I am in urgent need of Live-CD help. :) I have a potential new convert on the line, and would like someone to help me if I get stuck - like now. First thing, the LiveCD doesn't boot. I think we have the boot sequence right.
[10:58] <gepatino> ConfidentiaL: shure you will. or maybe you should ask him to install a web server + sql server + mail server in a pentium II with 64 megs ;)
[10:58] <_jason> apoc: the answer to your question though is 'mplayer -vo help' in a terminal
[10:58] <crimsun> zanaga: that means that the id assigned to the the usb id needs to be changed
[10:58] <zanaga> crimsun, shall i file a bug?
[10:58] <crimsun> zanaga: we'll revisit post-Dapper
[10:59] <Rhine> Is there a terminal command to roll back Xserver i tired installing ATI Ubuntu drivers and now Xserver crashes on startup
[10:59] <errpast1> jenda - Are you sure the BIOS is set to boot from CD-ROM
[10:59] <crimsun> zanaga: sure, but understand it won't be considered until the next devel cycle begins
[10:59] <jenda> erratic: I think so.
[10:59] <ScreaminIke> can i get some support getting apache up and running?
[10:59] <zanaga> crimsun, post-dapper is fine by me, it's just cosmetic
[10:59] <monkey_> how can even enable my wireless card to see if it works
[10:59] <VR_> twopeak: are you getting "too many" items in the away drop-down list in gaim?
[10:59] <errpast1> jenda: Has this live CD worked on another machine?
[10:59] <zanaga> crimsun, any special info i should include in the bug?
[10:59] <gepatino> Rhine: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg (or xserver)
[11:00] <jadaz87> hello everyone i was wonderin where the font folder was
[11:00] <Rhine> What drivers should i pick is thier a generic one?
[11:00] <Rhine> Im happy using the intergrated ones
[11:00] <gepatino> vesa is the most generuc
[11:00] <crimsun> zanaga: there are two problems being touched here: (1) asoundconf is parsing the less {human-}legible string; (2) the actual alsa driver needs to be changed to spew something more intuitive than "default" for your specific hardware id
[11:00] <jenda> errpast-wl: probably not - it's a shipit, unused.
[11:00] <bimberi> jadaz87: /usr/share/fonts (system wide) or ~/.fonts (for each user)
[11:00] <intelikey> tty1 [root#~]  apt-get install mozilla-browser  dpkg: error processing mozilla-browser (--configure)  \n tty1 [root#~]  dpkg --configure -a  \n E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? <--- the answer is NO !  i even did  "tty1 [root#~]  rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock" first, incase there was a problem with the lock file.  and that is the only package that errors out afik.
[11:00] <jadaz87> oh ok :-)
[11:01] <errpast1> So it was shipped from a distro or something?  That might rule out a mistake like burning the iso file, instead of a bootable cd
[11:01] <Rhine> Oh thank you gepatino hope this works ill be back later if it doesnt >.<
[11:01] <graveson> is seveas packages supported in breezy
[11:01] <_jason> graveson: they work in breezy
[11:01] <bimberi> graveson: not by ubuntu no
[11:01] <Aeos> can anyone help me with setting up my network card properly
[11:01] <ScreaminIke> can i get some support getting apache up and running?
[11:01] <IdleOne> graveson, they are supported by Seveas
[11:01] <Seveas> graveson, I support them myself, they're not supported by ubuntu or canonical
[11:01] <gepatino> Aeos: whats your problem?
[11:01] <errpast1> jenda: do you hear the CD spin when you boot the box
[11:02] <cva>  is there a flag for rm that, while deleting a link, will remove the original file as well?
[11:02] <zanaga> crimsun, hmm.. so i should propably file it upstream.
[11:02] <dell500> anyone know how to get multiple instances of kaffeine?
[11:02] <graveson> seveas: wow thanks ,then i will go ahead counting on you !!!
[11:02] <Aeos> I cant seem to access the web. I enabled my cards in the networking tab, and checked the device manager but cannot find what is wrong
[11:02] <Rudemeister> ?
[11:02] <VR_> is anyone else using gaim 2.0beta3
[11:03] <welshbyte> dell500: a cup of tea and a coke :)
[11:03] <errpast1> Aeos: Can you get to a terminal and run ifconfig
[11:03] <gepatino> Aeos: have set up your routes, default gateway, dns, etc?
[11:03] <ConfidentiaL> I have installed a mysql server on my server, but is having trouble installing mysql admin. It seems like there is an other application controlling the mysql database now, but I dont know what application that is. The message I get when I try to install it is that if I install this package, an other has to be removed, and that I have to use "advanced mode" to install it. Does any1 have an idea on how to check/fix that?
[11:03] <_jason> ubotu: tell VR_ about anyone
[11:03] <VR_> and if so, do you get a screwed up menu for the away messages
[11:03] <VR_> heh, sorry, _jason
[11:03] <_jason> VR_: yes, kind of
[11:03] <Averice> how do i know how much memory i have left in my computer
[11:03] <Aeos> errpast1: yes it shows the two network cards I have installed. Everything seems valid
[11:04] <Averice> after installing ubuntu everything seems to slow down in my computer
[11:04] <Aeos> gepatino: I dont think I have
[11:04] <_jason> VR_: mine shows up with blank lines at the top and then I have to scroll down
[11:04] <bimberi> Averice: 'free' (in a terminal)
[11:04] <gepatino> Aeos: go to System/Admin/Network
[11:04] <errpast1> Aeos - Do you see an ip address on the cards
[11:04] <sabakonki> i am using gaim2.0beta3
[11:04] <apoc> jason: thanks it works
[11:04] <_jason> apoc: great
[11:04] <VR_> _jason: same here, but i also get the same message twice or so
[11:04] <Averice> what does it mean to have 42288 free
[11:04] <_jason> VR_: that doesn't happen here, may want to try #gaim
[11:04] <gepatino> Aeos: and check the DNS tab, and the properties of the iface that connects to the web
[11:05] <errpast1> jenda - any update on the live cd
[11:05] <VR_> _jason: could be because i didnt uninstall the old gaim. thanks.
[11:05] <yuion> Witch program is best to pack upp .rar files with?
[11:05] <Aeos> o one sec
[11:05] <bimberi> !tell yuion about rar
[11:05] <Aeos> darkappyba
[11:05] <dell500> nice welshbyte
[11:05] <ConfidentiaL> !tell me about mysql
[11:06] <jeremy86> does anyone know how to mount a windows partition(ntfs) at start up with the ability to read/write?
[11:06] <tanuki_> can someone tell me what extension a startup script should have?
[11:06] <Aeos> I used the network setting dialog to set it up
[11:06] <yuion> haha thanks but..im in hurry so ive been glad if some one jsut can write a like "apt-get winrar" you know
[11:06] <jenda> erratic: sorry, takes long here. She doesn't remember hearing anything, but that doesn't mean much.
[11:06] <tanuki_> jeremy86, you cannot
[11:06] <gepatino> jeremy86: you cant write ntfs partitions
[11:06] <sovieticool> jeremy86 is not recomendet
[11:06] <tanuki_> can someone tell me what extension a startup script should have?
[11:06] <sovieticool> gepatino, u can whit the last kernel instaled i thing
[11:06] <Aeos> one sec I am going to switch my laptop to wirless
[11:06] <_jason> tanuki_: anything you want
[11:07] <bimberi> tanuki_: anything
[11:07] <gepatino> sovieticool: is it safe now?
[11:07] <tanuki_> _jason, does not matter huh, ok thank you
[11:07] <ScreaminIke> yulon, no. no rars. it's proprietary. try a tarball. or a zip
[11:07] <yuion> any one knows?
[11:07] <sovieticool> it is safe if u edit only 15 folders maxim
[11:07] <Howitzer> What is the name of that package that enables you to edit the .gtkrc so that all gtk1/2 applications fit your theme?
[11:07] <_jason> sovieticool: heh where does 15 come from?
[11:07] <gepatino> very usefull... jeje
[11:07] <Amaranth> sudo apt-get install unrar
[11:08] <sovieticool> i don't know
[11:08] <errpast1> tanuki: I just checked /etc/init.d.  Lot's of startup scripts.  no particular extension.
[11:08] <Amaranth> then the regular archive manager (in Applications->Accessories) will open rar files
[11:08] <sovieticool> i read in a article about this i didn't try miself :P
[11:08] <Amaranth> yuion: ^
[11:08] <yuion> Amaranth, its dont work:(
[11:08] <Amaranth> !doesn't work
[11:08] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day?  Does it want more money?  Is it on IRC all the time?  Please be specific!  Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[11:08] <Amaranth> :)
[11:08] <mwe_> I wonder if 38 degrees celcius is hot for a laptop battery
[11:08] <jeremy86> tanki_: thanks
[11:09] <sovieticool> mwe_, is ok
[11:09] <yuion> mwe_, 38 cel is _not_ hot for a laptop
[11:09] <ScreaminIke> _jason, i know that you help a lot of folks with a lot of stuff, but can i get som help setting up apache and getting it to run?
[11:09] <_jason> ubotu: tell ScreaminIke about lamp
[11:09] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody tellme please a cd grabber program which can grab to mp3
[11:09] <yuion> _jason there you are
[11:10] <G0SUB> MetaMorfoziS: Sound Juicer
[11:10] <blindx> I was in here earlier.. I was trying to compile nm-applet, and my comp said "no suitable C compiler found at $PATH" and someone else told me to get something else..
[11:10] <blindx> but then my brother closed mirc on me and i don't remember what it was.
[11:10] <yuion> come on,some one knows how to install some progrma liek winrar
[11:10] <ScreaminIke> thanx, _jason
[11:10] <MetaMorfoziS> G0SUB: thx
[11:10] <IdleOne> blindx, probably build-essential
[11:10] <gepatino> blindx: have you done sudo aptitude install build-essentials
[11:10] <blindx> that was it.
[11:10] <blindx> thanks.
[11:11] <scorchsaber>  Hey, I need a bit of help...
[11:11] <scorchsaber> scorchsaber@ubuntuDJ:~$ cd /opt
[11:11] <scorchsaber> scorchsaber@ubuntuDJ:/opt$ dir
[11:11] <scorchsaber> planeshift
[11:11] <scorchsaber> scorchsaber@ubuntuDJ:/opt$ cd /opt/planeshift
[11:11] <scorchsaber> bash: cd: /opt/planeshift: Permission denied
[11:11] <scorchsaber> scorchsaber@ubuntuDJ:/opt$ sudo cd /opt/planeshift
[11:11] <scorchsaber> sudo: cd: command not found
[11:11] <mwe_> yuion: yes. read !rar
[11:11] <Rudemeister> How do I recompile my kernel?
[11:11] <gepatino> scorchsaber: cd is not a command
[11:11] <mwe_> yuion: it's cli but it works fine
[11:11] <gepatino> scorchsaber: is part of bash
[11:11] <scorchsaber> oh...err
[11:11] <domino-24> hey, has anyone here had any experience with "xfishtank" before please?
[11:11] <Vardyr> does anyone know how to get X to keep gamma settings when it puts the monitor to sleep? I keep losing them every time
[11:11] <scorchsaber> how do I get in the folder then?
[11:11] <gepatino> scorchsaber: try doing sudo -i and then use the shell as root (be carefull)
[11:11] <bimberi> scorchsaber: 'sudo -i' to get a root shell then cd...
[11:11] <scorchsaber> thank you
[11:12] <yuion> mwe_, i dont want to sounds notnice..but i right now dont have time for reading:P
[11:12] <scorchsaber> I will be careful. I just have to uninstall this thing...
[11:12] <gepatino> scorchsaber: then leave the root shell with 'exit'
[11:12] <blindx> where can i download build-essentials if I'm not currently on a linux box?
[11:12] <mwe_> yuion: it's easy to use
[11:12] <mwe_> yuion: unrar foobar.rar
[11:12] <yuion> mwe_, you have some command to install it in xterm?
[11:12] <IdleOne> blindx, packages.ubuntu.com and its build-essential
[11:12] <Rudemeister> The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is a kernel header file directory, but it is
[11:12] <Rudemeister> not part of kernel source tree.
[11:12] <intelikey> the offending file is "/var/lib/dpkg/info/mozilla-browser.postinst"  crome protion.
[11:12] <Rudemeister> anyone
[11:13] <intelikey> i hacked mine and finished the install.
[11:13] <yuion> mwe_, its a movie(prison brake) i want to extract
[11:13] <jmoncayo> the linux-source is the same for all the arquitectures like amd64 x86 etc
[11:13] <Aeos> Hi, I am on my ubuntu install. the network seems to be working
[11:13] <gepatino> Rudemeister: what do you need? the source files or the headers?
[11:13] <gepatino> Aeos: great!!
[11:13] <graveson> i keep on receiving this error : what and how do i resolve this - W: GPG error:
[11:13] <mwe> yuion: enable multiverse. then sudo apt-get install unrar
[11:13] <gepatino> Aeos: enjoy ubuntu :)
[11:13] <Rudemeister> gepatino: both are installed correctly but the message keeps returning
[11:13] <scorchsaber> Okay, how would I set permissions for a group of files? chmod?
[11:14] <tanuki_> can someone tell me where icon themes are stored at?
[11:14] <yuion> mwe, how to enable it?
[11:14] <jeremy86> tanki_: thanks?
[11:14] <mwe> !tell yuion about multiverse
[11:14] <jeremy86> i'm running ubuntu with a viao laptop, i have it pugged in now but it says that it does not detect a battery, is there a way to configure a battery
[11:14] <arcanistherogue> Hey guys, I get an error when i try to use apt because there was an error with dpkg
[11:14] <gepatino> Rudemeister: i think there were three packages... linux-headers, linux -source and linux-tree
[11:14] <mwe> yuion: see /msg from ubotu
[11:14] <tanuki_> can someone tell me where icon themes are stored at?
[11:14] <michael117> I have downloaded the tarball of the newest version of the deskbar gnome applet and am following the instructions on the website to install it so entered "./configure --prefix /usr" and it was checking stuff then finally gave me the error: "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH". How can I fix this?
[11:14] <Rudemeister> gepatino: ok I will try, brb
[11:14] <kevin> !sources
[11:14] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:14] <mwe> yuion: after enabling, sudo apt-get update
[11:14] <sovieticool> graveson try killall gnome-panel
[11:14] <yuion> mwe, haha its really kind of you to send me all that..but please notnow:P
[11:14] <scorchsaber> how do I chmod a group of files?
[11:15] <IdleOne> michael117, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:15] <scorchsaber> or whatever...gah
[11:15] <arcanistherogue> when i installed these screensavers last night with apt, one package didnt install for some reason, something like setiathome, so I just canceled the terminal, but now i cant use apt and when i try to correct the dpkg error with dpkg --configure -a, the package never loads
[11:15] <arcanistherogue> how do i cancel the package
[11:15] <_jason> scorchsaber: list them
[11:15] <scorchsaber> uhm...theres a lot of files
[11:15] <jrk_> question: the 5.10 installer kernel seems to hang during boot on detecting SATA devices -- anyone have any pointers?
[11:15] <mwe> yuion: that explanation is as short as the one I could give you but has the benefit of not wasting my time
[11:15] <Rudemeister> linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686 is already the newest version
[11:15] <tanuki_> can someone tell me where icon themes are stored at?
[11:15] <_jason> scorchsaber: globbing is your friend
[11:15] <IdleOne> /usr/bin/pixmaps iirc
[11:15] <scorchsaber> no idea what globbing is
[11:15] <_jason> scorchsaber: or xargs
[11:15] <graveson> sorry let me copy the error again - " The following signatures were invalid:....."
[11:16] <scorchsaber> or xargs...don't know that either
[11:16] <_jason> scorchsaber: like when you do 'echo *' it expands * to all the files in the current directory
[11:16] <yuion> mwe, sorry me..but come on..you can help me..you reallt have so much to do man?
[11:16] <IdleOne> !tell graveson about Seveas
[11:16] <tanuki_> IdleOne, no such directory
[11:16] <Aeos> now to get rid of my windows partitions
[11:16] <scorchsaber> _jason...you lost me..I'm kindof new, if that helps
[11:16] <IdleOne> graveson, the GPG you need is on that site
[11:17] <_jason> scorchsaber: why don't you tell me exactly what you want to do, that way I can explain what you need
[11:17] <mwe> yuion: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the # in front of the line the comments say. then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install unrar
[11:17] <gepatino> scorchsaber: for example: chmod 775 *, changes permission on all files
[11:17] <Rudemeister> gepatino: linux-source-2.6.12 or 2.6.12-10.30
[11:17] <yuion> mwe, baby love you ong time
[11:17] <gepatino> scorchsaber: * = all
[11:17] <yuion> mwe, long*
[11:17] <Rudemeister> gepatino: is the latter newer? not stable?
[11:18] <gepatino> Rudemeister: cant help on that, right now im on an ancient hoary
[11:18] <Amaranth> !help
[11:18] <gepatino> Rudemeister: sorry
[11:18] <Rudemeister> gepatino: k, tnx
[11:18] <Amaranth> hrm, wrong one
[11:18] <Rudemeister> gepatino: :}
[11:18] <scorchsaber> so if I go, let's say... chmod +x * in a folder, it does it for all files in that folder?
[11:18] <gepatino> scorchsaber: *.mp3 = all mp3 files
[11:18] <Amaranth> yuion: You installed the unrar package, right?
[11:18] <gepatino> scorchsaber: yes
[11:18] <scorchsaber> gepatino: Thank you
[11:18] <sovieticool> su
[11:19] <gepatino> scorchsaber: it ok
[11:19] <matthias> qwejjklllllll
[11:19] <MetaMorfoziS> G0SUB_: it can't grab to mp3
[11:19] <_jason> scorchsaber: that does most of the files, it won't expand to stuff that starts with .
[11:19] <mwe> Amaranth: I think he's on it. I just told him how to install unrar
[11:19] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i grab cd to mp3?
[11:19] <Aeos> I think I may be laggigng though
[11:19] <gepatino> MetaMorfoziS: first you need to install lame: sudo aptitude install lame
[11:19] <Howitzer> pfoe
[11:20] <Howitzer> i'm off
[11:20] <Howitzer> Seeya guys.
[11:20] <MetaMorfoziS> what lame do?
[11:20] <MetaMorfoziS> i has it
[11:20] <MetaMorfoziS> okay
[11:20] <_jason> scorchsaber: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/wildcards.html
[11:20] <MetaMorfoziS> and?
[11:20] <gepatino> MetaMorfoziS: those are the libraries to handle mp3 files
[11:20] <michael117> IdleOne: now I get "configure: error: could not find Python headers"
[11:20] <MetaMorfoziS> gepatino: okay, i has it
[11:20] <mwe> michael117: install python-dev iirc
[11:20] <MetaMorfoziS> and?
[11:20] <gepatino> MetaMorfoziS: then use soundjuicer (it's in the apps menu)
[11:20] <jenda> OK, i need suggestions what to do, when a LiveCD refuses to boot.
[11:21] <MetaMorfoziS> yes i've started and readed my files on the cd
[11:21] <MetaMorfoziS> but in the options
[11:21] <yuion> mwe, just alot of errors
[11:21] <MetaMorfoziS> only ogg wav and an other
[11:21] <IdleOne> michael117, what are you trying to compile?
[11:21] <mwe> yuion: what?
[11:21] <yuion> mwe, after i removed those #
[11:21] <blindx> Okay, I'm at packages.ubuntu.com, and i've looked up build-essential ... but how do i download it?
[11:21] <MetaMorfoziS> FLAC
[11:21] <MetaMorfoziS> mp3 nowhere
[11:21] <mwe> yuion: did you just headlessly remove all of them?
[11:21] <michael117> IdleOne: Gnome Deskbar
[11:21] <blindx> nevermind
[11:21] <_jason> blindx: is there a reason you aren't using apt?
[11:21] <yuion> mwe, yes:S
[11:21] <blindx> _jason
[11:21] <ibob63> I am trying to find some good project management software - can anyone recommend something that is webbased?
[11:21] <blindx> I'm not on linux
[11:22] <gepatino> MetaMorfoziS: sorry, i cant test it here, im on a lts and dont have a cdrom drive
[11:22] <mwe> yuion: you should _read_ what they say
[11:22] <_jason> blindx: build-essential is on the cd too
[11:22] <shaggyoaf> What do I have to change to make my system start using udev instead of devfs when it boots?
[11:22] <mwe> yuion: you just broke it. please paste what you have on pastebin.com and I'll try to fix it
[11:22] <gepatino> MetaMorfoziS: if you have lame installed, you should be able to grab to mp3
[11:22] <yuion> mwe, probaly yea,work all the day..im tired:P
[11:22] <blindx> welll... i downloaded it already :P
[11:22] <blindx> lets see if it works for me :D
[11:22] <blindx> bbs
[11:23] <IdleOne> michael117, right click on the panel and > Add to Panel then a window will popup and pick Deskbar and Add it
[11:23] <mwe> yuion: paste the file on pastebin.com. then paste the url here
[11:23] <postix> How can i start Beep-media player with window decoration?
[11:23] <_jason> blindx: realize that downloading build-essential from pacakges.ubuntu.com does not get you the dependencies you need
[11:23] <Averice> what am i missing, when checking this site: http://java.chikka.com/install/upac_loginpage.php?client_id=default&version=1,0,0,34
[11:23] <MetaMorfoziS> okay gepatino thx.
[11:23] <Averice> it is now working
[11:23] <michael117> IdleOne: The version in the ubuntu repositories is old and outdated
[11:23] <MetaMorfoziS> so anybody please tell me how can i grab a cd to mp3!?
[11:23] <mwe> MetaMorfoziS: grip maybe
[11:23] <sovieticool> MetaMorfoziS, use K3B
[11:24] <sovieticool> ooo
[11:24] <sovieticool> sorry
[11:24] <sovieticool> K3B is to burn data :D
[11:24] <MetaMorfoziS> ok i try girp
[11:24] <MetaMorfoziS> sovieticool: :)
[11:24] <mwe> MetaMorfoziS: grip, not girp :)
[11:24] <Aeos> hmm am I disconnected?
[11:24] <sovieticool> hehe
[11:24] <MetaMorfoziS> okok i misstyped:)
[11:24] <IdleOne> michael117, I think this is what you need python-dev
[11:25] <mwe> IdleOne: I already told him
[11:25] <sovieticool> i go to bed bye all
[11:25] <IdleOne> mwe, k then
[11:25] <Phosphate> I seem to have a bit of a problem here, I tryed installing with the livecd, and tried 3 times, it formats the drives and then just dies out, I know the normal installer works, but I don't have a copy handy.
[11:25] <jenda> Can anyone please suggest what to do, when a LiveCD refuses to boot, beyond setting the boot device in BIOS?
[11:26] <gepatino> bye sovieticool
[11:26] <shaggyoaf> a
[11:26] <jrk_> resolved: change bios to more conservative sata settings
[11:26] <yuion> mwe, im really glad for the help..thanks..here the url   http://pastebin.com/654395
[11:26] <ProN00b> jenda, reset bios ?
[11:26] <mwe> jenda: make sure the cd is ok
[11:26] <Phosphate> Can I burn a cd using the live cd?
[11:26] <Averice> jenda, do you have a good burn LiveCD
[11:26] <mwe> yuion: hang on
[11:26] <yuion> mwe, sure
[11:26] <shaggyoaf> what do I have to do to get a machine I've upgraded from breezy to dapper to use udev instead of devfs?
[11:27] <AskHL> Hello, ubotu states that automatix uses something like echo -e blahblah, which is considered 'unsafe'. Could anyone elaborate?
[11:27] <jenda> Averice, mwe: beyond that :) I will try with another shipit CD as soon as i can.
[11:27] <tanuki_> can anyone tell me how to change the mouse cursors in ubuntu?
[11:27] <AskHL> more specifically, "echo -e 'y\nY\n'"
[11:27] <eggzeck> tanuki_, extract them in /usr/share/icons
[11:27] <_jason> AskHL: it automatically answers yes to questions which the user is supposed to answer
[11:27] <tanuki_> eggzeck, ok thank you
[11:27] <AskHL> _jason, thank you
[11:28] <blindx> okay, tried to install build-essential. said dpkg-dev needs to be installed... haha the run around is fun!
[11:28] <_jason> blindx: pop the cd in your drive and install from the cd (just make sure the cdrom repository is enabled in synaptic)
[11:28] <shaggyoaf> tanuki_: any cosmetic thing like mouse cursors is available through the System menu on the top of your Gnome screen
[11:28] <jenesuispasbavar> Why does Synaptic want to remove ubuntu-desktop each time I try removing some package?
[11:29] <eggzeck> tanuki_, then you have to go to System->Preferences->Mouse
[11:29] <_jason> !ubuntu-desktop
[11:29] <ubotu> ubuntu-desktop is, like, totally, a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading
[11:29] <blindx> cdrom repository is enabled i synaptic? how do.. i do that?
[11:29] <ConfidentiaL> how do I access phpmyadmin after I have installed it?
[11:29] <eggzeck> tanuki_, then you will see a tab called "Cursors"
[11:29] <bmk789> type localhost in firefox
[11:29] <shaggyoaf> ConfidentiaL: http://localhost/phpmyadmin
[11:29] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[11:29] <Aeudian> how do i install my source for my kernel so that vmware can find it?
[11:30] <gepatino> Aeudian: install linux-source, and mybe linux-headers and linux-tree
[11:30] <papaubuntu> Aeudian, type: uname-r
[11:30] <_jason> blindx: edit > add cd-rom, (if you don't see it listed already in settings > repositories)
[11:30] <mwe> yuion: http://pastebin.com/654405 use that instead. then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install unrar
[11:30] <jenesuispasbavar> ubotu: What do you mean, reinstall it when upgrading?
[11:30] <ubotu> jenesuispasbavar: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:30] <tanuki_> eggzeck, thank you
[11:30] <blindx> Alright _jason. Thanks. Will be back soon.
[11:30] <eggzeck> tanuki_, yw
[11:30] <blindx> hopefully on my ubuntu box :\
[11:30] <ConfidentiaL> shaggyoaf: "The requested URL /cgi-bin/php4/phpmyadmin/index.php was not found on this server." :S |  I just installed it using apt-get...
[11:31] <eggzeck> why is php4 in cgi-bin?
[11:31] <Aeudian> it says i am running 2.6.12-10-386 but i dont see that source listed
[11:32] <jenesuispasbavar> ubotu: Thanks anyway.
[11:32] <ubotu> jenesuispasbavar: pas de quoi
[11:32] <sfar> jenesuispasbavar: ubotu is a bot :)
[11:32] <eggzeck> ConfidentiaL, why would php4/phpmyadmin be in cgi-bin?
[11:33] <GTX> how do I install java on firefox?
[11:33] <_jason> jenesuispasbavar: he means when you upgrade from breezy to dapper for example
[11:33] <sfar> !java
[11:33] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:33] <_jason> ubotu: tell GTX about javadebs
[11:33] <GTX> ta
[11:33] <ConfidentiaL> eggzeck: no clue...
[11:33] <yuion> mwe, thanks
[11:33] <Aeudian> !source
[11:33] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:33] <GTX> _jason, is there a package name for them?
[11:33] <Apostle^> how do i force unmount something
[11:33] <_jason> GTX: yes
[11:33] <GTX> whats it called
[11:33] <_jason> GTX: check the seveas page
[11:33] <yuion> mwe, hm wait now,what to do with the text you send?
[11:34] <GTX> _jason, I would but im on dapper ;x
[11:34] <gepatino> Apostle^: umount -f ?
[11:34] <_jason> GTX: works too
[11:34] <GTX> _jason, It'll muck up my repositry if i add them
[11:34] <eggzeck> ConfidentiaL, I can assure you it isn't. Perhaps you have to go to http://localhoast/phpmyadmin OR if it's on a server then you might have to create a symbolic lynk
[11:34] <_jason> GTX: nope, just add the java section
[11:34] <GTX> _jason, Which is?
[11:34] <Apostle^> gepatino: nope
[11:34] <Apostle^> how do i force unmount something
[11:34] <_jason> GTX: it's explained on the wiki
[11:35] <yuion> mwe, where i should paste the text you send+
[11:35] <mwe> yuion: replace the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list with that
[11:35] <_jason> GTX: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/java/
[11:35] <yuion> mwe, all in sources?
[11:35] <ConfidentiaL> eggzeck: its on a server, but I didn't understand what that symbolic lynk was... :S
[11:35] <Seveas> _jason, that one does not allow downloads
[11:35] <ConfidentiaL> eggzeck: brb
[11:35] <Apostle^> how do i force unmount something
[11:35] <_jason> GTX: oh and use one of the mirrors listed on the wiki, not that one I linked you to
[11:35] <mwe> yuion: put that text in sources.list, replacing anything else already there
[11:36] <_jason> Seveas: :)
[11:36] <yuion> mwe, all in erase all in that .txt and paste in you text?
[11:36] <yuion> mwe, ahha sorry i probally sounds really stupid
[11:36] <GTX> _jason, I installed it but it doesnt work :\
[11:36] <zielony> what should I write in crontab if I want to shutdown computer at 01.00 (hour)
[11:36] <_jason> GTX: what doesn't work?  which package did you install?
[11:36] <zielony> ?
[11:37] <GTX> _jason, java-package
[11:37] <mwe> yuion: gdsudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list . remove what's there and paste what I pointed you to
[11:37] <mwe> yuion: gksudo
[11:37] <mwe> yuion: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list . not gdsudo. sorry
[11:37] <_jason> GTX: did you read the description for that before you installed it?  You want the jre: sun-j2re1.5
[11:38] <Apostle^> what file system is cd-rom ? RAW ?
[11:38] <mwe> Apostle^: no
[11:38] <Apostle^> mwe: what is it
[11:38] <mwe> Apostle^: usually iso9660
[11:38] <eggzeck> zielony, you should learn how to create cronjobs, then read "man shutdown"
[11:38] <Apostle^> mwe: user@System:~$ sudo mount /media/cdrom iso9660
[11:38] <Apostle^> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[11:38] <yuion> mwe, reallt hansk to you really
[11:38] <yuion> mwe, really thansk
[11:39] <eggzeck> zielony, you would type `man shutdown' in your terminal
[11:39] <yuion> mwe, and what to write to download the program now?
[11:39] <mwe> yuion: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install unrar
[11:39] <chris_> hey all
[11:39] <Aeos> is wine included in ubuntu?
[11:39] <yuion> mwe, i do,how to start undrar:S?
[11:39] <gepatino> Aeos: not by default
[11:39] <mwe> Aeos: you have to install it
[11:39] <chris_> i have a completely brand new install, the only thing ive done is do the universe thing
[11:39] <gepatino> Aeos: search it in synaptic
[11:40] <MetaMorfoziS> hoho grip (girp) is cool:)
[11:40] <chris_> anyone have some suggestions onto what i should install?
[11:40] <mwe> Aeos: sudo apt-get install wine or use synaptic like gepatino suggested
[11:40] <gepatino> chris_: what you need :O
[11:40] <eggzeck> chris_, it all depends on what you need/want to have
[11:40] <kingspawn> chris_: that depends on what you like to do on your computer
[11:40] <mwe> MetaMorfoziS: yeah :)
[11:40] <zielony> eggzeck-> can I type sudo shutdown -t 3600 ?
[11:40] <eggzeck> zielony, wrong syntax
[11:40] <chris_> ummm well i need to have a media player
[11:40] <chris_> to play songs and movies
[11:41] <eggzeck> zielony, well not wrong but missing some options/arguments
[11:41] <chris_> ooo
[11:41] <yuion> mwe, you go to bed?
[11:41] <kingspawn> chris_: mplayer is good. i suggest reading up on help.ubuntu.com, lots of tips and suggestions
[11:41] <zielony> eggzeck-> can I type sudo shutdown -t 3600 -h?
[11:41] <chris_> does "easy ubuntu" work?
[11:41] <chris_> like its sposed to have all the media stuff u need...
[11:41] <mwe> zielony: sudo shutdown -h +180 to shut down in three hours from now
[11:41] <mwe> zielony: or sudo shutdown -h 12:00 to shutdown at noon
[11:42] <eggzeck> thanks mwe for helping me out :P
[11:42] <Apostle^> how do i get my cd-rom to automount
[11:42] <eggzeck> I wonder where ConfidentiaL went
[11:42] <Apostle^> !automount
[11:42] <ubotu> Apostle^: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:42] <mwe> Apostle^: it should by default
[11:42] <Apostle^> mwe: it doesn;t
[11:43] <gepatino> Apostle^: man automount
[11:43] <chris_> well im off to go search the documentation
[11:43] <chris_> thanks everyone
[11:43] <yuion> mwe, please,you helped me so much already..finish it man:D
[11:43] <mwe> yuion: what?
[11:43] <PwcrLinux> Gnome does have automounting when you put the usb flash drive or CD/DVD discs will appearing on desktop.
[11:43] <Apostle^> gepatino: no man entry
[11:43] <mwe> yuion: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install unrar
[11:43] <yuion> mwe, i wrote apt-get install unrar,then:P?
[11:44] <zielony> thx mates
[11:44] <mwe> yuion: then type unrar filname.rar
[11:44] <gepatino> Apostle^: is automount installed
[11:44] <eggzeck> Apostle^, apt-cache search automount
[11:44] <gepatino> Apostle^: i think the package is autofs
[11:44] <Apostle^> gepatino: okay a sec
[11:44] <yuion> mwe,  damn its many .rar files hows create the movie
[11:45] <mwe> yuion: I don't understand what you're trying to say
[11:45] <Apostle^> gepatino: it is now
[11:45] <Aeudian> whats the remove dir with all contents agruement
[11:45] <yuion> you ever downloaded a movie?,its comes in many small .rar files..
[11:45] <_jason> Aeudian: rm -r
[11:45] <yuion> mwe, its not just one:P
[11:45] <gepatino> Apostle^: have you find the manpage for automount?
[11:45] <_jason> yuion: unrar x file.rar, where file.rar is the first one
[11:45] <Apostle^> gepatino: yes
[11:45] <Aeudian> _jason, thanks was doing rmdir -r =P
[11:45] <mwe> yuion: but one of them is the one you should unrar
[11:46] <mwe> yuion: like when you point and click
[11:46] <Apostle^> gepatino: how do i get it to automount my cdrom
[11:47] <yuion> mwe, its shows me a long list of commands how to use the one i want?
[11:47] <AAA> umount /media/cdrom0
[11:47] <yuion> mwe, i want to use the command "e"
[11:48] <proTEU`> is there nothing out there which can create  VMWare disk images ?
[11:48] <mwe> yuion: unrar x
[11:48] <zig> greetings gentlemen
[11:48] <mwe> yuion: unrar x mainfile.rar
[11:48] <yuion> mwe, x=?
[11:49] <Aeudian> i am getting an error when install vmware: What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[11:49] <Aeudian> kernel?
[11:49] <_jason> Aeudian: install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:49] <mwe> yuion: just type it man
[11:50] <mwe> yuion: x is for eXtract
[11:50] <Apostle^> mwe: i can't figure out how to automount my cd-rom
[11:50] <mwe> yuion: mainfile.rar should be what you would click in winblows
[11:50] <zig> anyone got metacity running with composuite goodness? ANy good and would a gma 900 integrated chipbe any good with it?
[11:50] <apoc> how do i install java?
[11:50] <Snake__> How do I restar the taskbar in gnome?? (Gnome equiv to KDE's Kicker)
[11:50] <VR_> apoc: its in the wiki
[11:51] <gepatino> Apostle^: it should be automounted by default
[11:51] <IdleOne> !java
[11:51] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:51] <mwe> !tell Apostle^ about java
[11:51] <Ratmann> It's in the ubuntu guide and wiki
[11:51] <Apostle^> mwe: java ?
[11:51] <mwe> !tell Apoc about java
[11:51] <yuion> mwe, i write this in xterm "unrar x prison.break.117.hdtv-lol.rar"
[11:51] <mwe> Apostle^: was for apoc. sorry
[11:51] <mwe> Apostle^: hit return to fast after nick completion
[11:51] <VR_> has anyone ever told ubotu itself about java?
[11:51] <VR_> !tell ubotu about java
[11:51] <mwe> yuion: good if that's the name
[11:51] <ConfidentiaL> eggzeck: Im back :P
[11:51] <VR_> mwahehah
[11:52] <Snake__> Anyone?
[11:52] <Aeudian> _jason: the command worked, but vmware is defaulting to /usr/src/linux/include where did the headers just go to?
 Isn't that a bit silly?
[11:52] <yuion> mwe, jsut give me som erroes
[11:52] <VR_> silly bot
[11:52] <mwe> yuion: useless unless you tell me what errors
[11:52] <Snake__> :(
[11:52] <mwe> yuion: be aware it
[11:53] <mwe> yuion: be aware it's case sensitive
[11:53] <asdf25> anyone know what package /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so is from? or how i can find out?
[11:53] <Pavix> I have a slight problem. It appears I have java installed and running but I cant seem to get firefox to use java
[11:53] <chiwawa_42> I cannot install dapper flight 6 on amd64 : unable to mount cdrom. The i386 version works. Is there a known issue?
[11:53] <_jason> Aeudian: /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) is where they go, not sure how to properly tell vmware where to look
[11:53] <mwe> yuion: you can type part of the file name a press the tab key to complete the name for you
[11:53] <gepatino> Snake__: how can we help you?
[11:53] <Snake__> [05:50]  < Snake__> How do I restar the taskbar in gnome?? (Gnome equiv to KDE's Kicker)
[11:53] <VR_> Snake__: killall gnome-panel
[11:53] <Snake__> ty
[11:54] <gnomefreak> Snake__: killall gnome-panel
[11:54] <Snake__> Thanks guys
[11:54] <Snake__> Keep up the good work
[11:54] <Apostle^> gnomefreak: i have a cd in the drive, i type sudo mount /media/cdrom0 how come it doesn't work
[11:54] <VR_> whats the difference between sudo and gksudo? gnomefreak, you told me to use gksudo once.
[11:54] <eggzeck> ConfidentiaL, wb
[11:54] <gepatino> Apostle^: what kind of cd is it?
[11:54] <Apostle^> gepatino: audio
[11:54] <mwe> VR_: gksudo is for gui apps
[11:55] <VR_> mmmhmmm
[11:55] <gepatino> Apostle^: you dont need to mount audio cds ;)
[11:55] <gnomefreak> Apostle^: dont know maybe cdrom1?
[11:55] <ogami1972> help! i've worked really hard on a new system for my baby brother- he's on the way, but i still can't get flash with sound!
[11:55] <Apostle^> it isn't working ..
[11:55] <yuion> mwe, WIIIIIIIIIIEHAAAAAAAAAAAa i fix it,thansk a lot man..should remember it!!
[11:55] <mwe> Apostle^: you should probably check /etc/fstab
[11:55] <mwe> yuion: congrats
[11:55] <gepatino> Apostle^: audio cds cant be mounted, you just can hear them (from xmms, for example) or rip them
[11:56] <Apostle^> gepatino: okay
[11:56] <ogami1972> i have tried flahplayer-nonfree, mozilla-flashplayer, the manual installer...
[11:56] <gepatino> Apostle^: they cant be mounted since they dont have data, just raw audio (if such thing exists)
[11:56] <Apostle^> gepatino: how do i rip it
[11:56] <ogami1972>  i have copied files and to usr/lib/.mozilla, i have checked "about:plugins"- still no sound
[11:56] <AAA> Apostle^  abcde is a great ripper
[11:56] <gepatino> Apostle^: using tools like soundjuicer
[11:56] <mwe> gepatino: does it work if you kill esd first?
[11:57] <ogami1972> i like ripper-x
[11:57] <ConfidentiaL> eggzeck: ?
[11:57] <Apostle^> gepatino: sound-juicer tells me i have no cd-plugin
[11:57] <gepatino> mwe: ?
[11:58] <Rudemeister> hi
[11:58] <Rudemeister> fs/ext3/ialloc.c: In function `ext3_new_inode':
[11:58] <Rudemeister> fs/ext3/ialloc.c:633: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
[11:58] <Rudemeister> what now?!
[11:58] <mwe> gepatino: if you kill the esd daemon first, do you hear sound in flash? sometimes it excludes other programs from using the card
[11:58] <gepatino> Apostle^: can you hear the cd using cdplayer, xmms or something like that?
[11:58] <mwe> Rudemeister: don
[11:58] <mwe> Rudemeister: don't paste in here
[11:58] <ogami1972> anyone sucessfully installed flash w/ sound on dapper?
[11:58] <Apostle^> gepatino: let me c
[11:58] <ConfidentiaL>  ',)   c",)
[11:58] <ConfidentiaL>  ;)   c",)
[11:58] <eggzeck> ConfidentiaL, it all depends on how you have your apache configuration setup (for the symbolic lynk)
[11:58] <Ghostar> hiho
[11:58] <Rudemeister> I compiled my kernel and got an error, what now
[11:58] <Ghostar> need some help
[11:59] <Rudemeister> mwe: sry
[11:59] <duelboot> ogami1972, not on dapper, sorry
[11:59] <Apostle^> gepatino: i dont think so
[11:59] <ConfidentiaL> eggzeck: could u explain me how to set it up to get it working?
[11:59] <mwe> Rudemeister: I'm not sure gcc-4 is recomended for kernel compilation
[12:00] <ogami1972> i can already hear it- "well, that's cool and all, but can you just put windows on it?ijust want it to work"


[00:02] <Bashing-om> UWN: Set to do issue 637.
[00:03] <guiverc> fb done now too
[00:03] <Bashing-om> guiverc: "spam on fridge" We need some troll-be-gone spray !
[00:05] <guiverc> if someone ever invents it, it won't be open-source I fear, and be rather costly I'd suspect..
[00:06] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Would not cost all that much to make - the marketing is where the cost lies :P
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