[11:04] <ubotu> RockClimber: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[11:04] <Shafto> RockClimber: I think releases are done every 6 months, unless there are security/major bug problems
[11:04] <PriceChild> RockClimber, each release has the latest software... but I'm not sure what you are asking. Upgrades from Dapper to Edgy etc. are supported... but you say you don't want upgrades like that?
[11:04] <frandavid100> did someone get elisa to work?
[11:04] <ferronica> what this mean --> 3 Ubuntu CDs (3 PC Edition)
[11:04] <ferronica> Can any one explain me. :(
[11:04] <xiven> Hmm
[11:05] <xiven> Problem is the partition is using LVM, so it doesnt go by EXT at all...
[11:05] <neozen> ferronica: you mean the 3 different ubuntu-based distros?
[11:05] <velko> ferronica: your question does not make sense without context. where did you see this?
[11:05] <blippe> ferronica: where did you find it?
[11:05] <xiven> the partition of htat drive i CAN mount, has the grub stuff...but no boot
[11:05] <xiven> i mean, grub, but no home dir or anything
[11:05] <ferronica> velko: on shipit
[11:05] <neozen> ferronica: don't tell me you're buying ubuntu off some site
[11:06] <neozen> ferronica: ::grins::
[11:06] <neozen> ferronica: oh.. ok
[11:06] <xiven> Wait a second
[11:06] <SonicChao> !firefox
[11:06] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:06] <ferronica> neozone: i am ordering Fiesty fawn
[11:06] <neozen> ferronica: they probably ship all 3 distros
[11:06] <velko> ferronica: as long as i remember on shipit you can order 3, 5, 10 or more cds for the supported processors
[11:06] <xiven> I had both drives mounted using the Live boot, before i had installed Ubuntu onto the first drive (reinstall)....and when i rebooted, it said "FAILED" next to unmounting local filesystems.
[11:06] <Crazytom> RockClimber, too bad you live in the uk i need a belay partner
[11:06] <nilleso> good for you ferronica
[11:07] <drewzf> god
[11:07] <xiven> Could that be the problem
[11:07] <drewzf> What's the DNS server/setup util of choice for retards?
[11:07] <drewzf> I can't get my bind9 setup working
[11:07] <ferronica> neozen: all distros mean ubuntu , Kubuntu, Eubuntu
[11:07] <ferronica> neozen: You mean this
[11:07] <RockClimber> I realise you have a similar release cycle to fedora but what I want is an OS where if I install Ubuntu X with a support life of 18 months will it receive updates to major packages like openoffice every 3 months (their release cycle). At the moment for instance I have fedora 6 on a machine with OO.org 2.0.4 this didn't get the OO.org 2.1 update nor will it get 2.2 (which fedora 7 has) and in fact for the rest of fedora 6 life won't get anything other
[11:07] <RockClimber> than security related boosts. Does ubuntu work similarly - ie only security problems trigger a major version bump in packages?
[11:07] <neozen> ferronica: that could be
[11:08] <neozen> ferronica: that could be what they mean
[11:08] <ferronica> neozen: have you ordered already
[11:08] <rukuartic> Hi folks... does anyone have any ideas for recovering a hardware raid 0 array?
[11:08] <neozen> ferronica: no
[11:08] <rukuartic> RockClimber: You might want to ask in the packages channel...
[11:08] <ferronica> neozen: Why
[11:08] <SonicChao> My tablet is not working correctly with Linux D:
[11:08] <RockClimber> rukuartic, what's that ubuntu-packages??
[11:08] <stefg> RockClimber: you are asking for backports. These do exist, but aren't offically supported
[11:08] <rukuartic> RockClimber: Or whatever channel its supposed to be >> I'm not sure what it is...
[11:08] <neozen> ferronica: you can't order xubuntu cds
[11:08] <rukuartic> RockClimber: Gimme a moment.
[11:08] <jano_> how do I get the grub splash to be ubuntu ? (i just upgraded from xubuntu)
[11:08] <neozen> ferronica: through shipit
[11:09] <ferronica> neozen: why
[11:09] <stefg> !backports
[11:09] <bokey> I asked this for someone here earlier but to no avail. man pages were showing quiet unproperly so I uninstalled and reinstalled groff-base package and it solves lot of garbage in the man page but still not all. may help someone.
[11:09] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[11:09] <neozen> ferronica: says here: http://xubuntu.org/get they've got 'funding issues'
[11:10] <ferronica> neozen: ok
[11:10] <xiven> Would the Live Boot not unmounting properly on reboot, cause me not to be able to mount?
[11:10] <ferronica> neozen: they will send me 3 editiond
[11:10] <sud0n1m> Im running Ubuntu on a VPS only using SSH. Do I need getty?
[11:10] <dooglus> velko: sort | uniq can be replaced more efficiently with 'sort -u'
[11:10] <ferronica> neozen: all distros ubuntu , Kubuntu, Eubuntu
[11:10] <velko> dooglus: thank you
[11:11] <neozen> neozen: ahhh edubuntu
[11:11] <Shafto> basvg: Broke for me XD
[11:11] <blippe> ferronica: doesn't the dvd contain all of them?
[11:11] <neozen> ferronica: I always forget about that one
[11:11] <basvg> Shafto: it's been downloading packages so far... almost ready to install 'm so we'll see
[11:11] <neozen> ferronica: great for kids
[11:11] <jano_> how do I get the grub splash to be ubuntu the splash is right at the end but at the bootup I still have the xfce one? (i just upgraded from xubuntu)
[11:11] <rukuartic> RockClimber: I can't quite seem to find it, look around in #ubuntu-dev
[11:11] <ferronica> neozen: which one K-ubuntu or E-ubuntu
[11:11] <RockClimber> rukuartic, it's okay, stefg answered my question
[11:12] <neozen> ferronica: edubuntu
[11:12] <ferronica> neozen: Ubuntu is all in one i think
[11:12] <Flannel> RockClimber: Major version bumps don't happen, period.  Bugfixes and security updates are backported
[11:12] <neozen> ferronica: its designed for educational uses
[11:12] <SonicChao> When I look at grub
[11:12] <rukuartic> RockClimber: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html might be of use
[11:12] <Flannel> RockClimber: some newer (major) stuff is backported, in the backports repository (like flash9, etc)
[11:12] <neozen> ferronica: has alot of kid-oriented progs
[11:12] <SonicChao> I have 2 'Ubuntu' lines
[11:12] <SonicChao> (and their 'recovery' lines)
[11:12] <stefg> jano_: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-artwork && sudo dpgk-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[11:13] <SonicChao> They are both EXACTLY the same.
[11:13] <ferronica> neozen: if i order i will get all three editions
[11:13] <velko> SonicChao: you have two kernel versions installed
[11:13] <SonicChao> I logged in one, saved a random file, then logged in the other and opened it.
[11:13] <RockClimber> Flannel, I was thinking useful stuff like openoffice.org but I guess flash has it's place ;-P
[11:13] <neozen> ferronica: ok.. well then that question is solved
[11:13] <SonicChao> velko, huh? D: How do I just get the one with the most updated kernel?
[11:13] <ferronica> neozen: what  K-ubuntu for?
[11:13] <Flannel> RockClimber: Well, flash9 was a major improvement over 7.  I don't believe OOo is in backports.  you'd have to check.  packages.ubuntu.com
[11:13] <blippe> neozen: edubuntu is also a great fatserver/thinclient distro
[11:13] <neozen> ferronica: uses kde instead of gnome
[11:14] <blippe> ferronica: ubuntu with kde without gnome
[11:14] <jano_> stefg, thx man
[11:14] <velko> SonicChao: install the "kernel metapackage" on wich the most recent kernel depends and deinstall the manually installed kernels
[11:14] <RockClimber> Flannel, not in the license :-P and not in the content :-)
[11:14] <sud0n1m> can anyone tell me if I remove 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 from the /etc/inittab will I still be able to ssh in?
[11:14] <ferronica> neozen: oh okay
[11:14] <Flannel> neozen, blippe, if you want the edubuntu for a desktop, you ought to intsall ubuntu,then install the edubuntu games/themes/etc.  Edubuntu itself is designed for server/thinclient/classroom sort of thing
[11:14] <afreddin> Does anyone here know about computer architecture?
[11:14] <dooglus> sud0n1m: you will
[11:14] <Flannel> RockClimber: in stability and usability.
[11:14] <sud0n1m> dooglus: Cool - thanks!
[11:14] <SonicChao> velko, Kernel metapackage? :( Um...
[11:14] <ferronica> neozen: what you prefer to do order CD or download
[11:14] <dooglus> sud0n1m: that line is for the virtual consoles on alt-f1 through alt-f6
[11:15] <blippe> ferronica: if you install ubuntu on your computer you could add kubuntu and xubuntu by installing "xubuntu-desktop" and "kubuntu-desktop"
[11:15] <neozen> ferronica: I don't order the cds
[11:15] <neozen> ferronica: I just download them
[11:15] <dooglus> sud0n1m: so long as sshd is running and you don't block the ssh port, you can ssh in
[11:15] <afreddin> ANYONE WHO KNOWS ABOUT VIRTUAL MEMORY PLZ PM ME
[11:15] <ferronica> neozen: i think you got good ISP
[11:15] <stefg> !caps
[11:15] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:15] <SonicChao> !pm > afreddin
[11:15] <neozen> ferronica: heh....
[11:15] <velko> SonicChao: i can help you only with the concept, not with the exact names because i don't run ubuntu. it looks like that:
[11:15] <neozen> ferronica: college has a huge pipe
[11:15] <dooglus> afreddin: ASK IN THE CHANNEL THEN WE CAN ALL LEARN FROM THE ANSWER
[11:15] <bokey> ***remember people, someone somewhere who does not have access to internet can always use shipit CDs. So, order carefully*** :)
[11:15] <sud0n1m> dooglus: awesome. Im trying to make sure I dont lock myself out of my VPS while I lock it down
[11:15] <afreddin> ary capslock
[11:15] <neozen> !caps
[11:16] <ferronica> neozen: okay
[11:16] <SonicChao> velko,  like that: ?
[11:16] <mzanfardino> I've been tasked with discoverying what is wrong with a server we have that is formatted with Windows.  I want to know what tools I have available to me to analys the harddrives and system components using a live CD.  Any recommended liveCD's dedicated to system analysis?
[11:16] <velko> SonicChao: metapackages are empty packages on which other packages depend. they are used to install several packages at once (say ubuntu-desktop) or the most recent version of a package (say the most recent kernel)
[11:17] <velko> SonicChao: sorry - slowly typing :-)
[11:17] <dooglus> velko: that sounds like it oughta be a factoid in the bot
[11:17] <SonicChao> velko, so if I deinstall the 'metapackage' for the old kernel...?
[11:18] <tomasz> Hello i've got a problem with cpu frequency scalling. Got 7.04 and C2D and seems not to work;/ Been searching the internet for 5 past days and I am a bit confused, anyone could help?
[11:18] <velko> SonicChao: you haven't installed metapackage for the kernel and therefore you got this problem
[11:18] <judgen> i need my computer to press the space button every 12 seconds. without me sitting by the computer, any ideas?
[11:18] <velko> SonicChao: maybe someone else here could help you with the exact names?
[11:19] <dooglus> SonicChao: uninstalling a metapackage will have no effect until the metapackage gets updated to refer to new stuff - then you won't get the new stuff that you would have got if you'd left it installed.
[11:19] <stefg> !feisty | tomas
[11:19] <ubotu> tomas: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[11:19] <stefg> !feisty | tomasz
[11:19] <ubotu> tomasz: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[11:19] <SonicChao> ok dooglus. Can you help me maybe? It seems I have 2 kernels somehow.
[11:19] <dooglus> SonicChao: don't we all?
[11:19] <SonicChao> dooglus, :(
[11:19] <dooglus> SonicChao: one's a 'backup' in case the other fscks up
[11:19] <mzanfardino> no good diagnostics utilties ?
[11:19] <SonicChao> I want to remove the oldest one
[11:19] <dooglus> SonicChao: why?
[11:20] <afreddin> anyways I here is my question I have a virtual Address space of 16MB and the page table for a running process includes the following entries: Virt Page 2 -> Phys page 4   Virt page1 -> phys frame 2   Virt page 0 ->phys frame 1  Virt page 4 -> phys frame 9    virt page 3 -> phys page 16///////   each page is 1024 bytes and the max physical memory size of the PC is 2MB            how many bits are required for each virtual address
[11:20] <tomasz> Thx, sorry! bye
[11:20] <SonicChao> dooglus, Because there are 4 lines for ubuntu in my grub screen.
[11:20] <dooglus> afreddin: that's probably too much of a 'grown up' question for #ubuntu.  don't you want to install some video card drivers instead?  ;)
[11:20] <SonicChao> 2 are (recovery)
[11:20] <dooglus> SonicChao: that's how it should be.  the last-but-one kernel is there as a backup
[11:20] <drygnfyre> hi, does anyone know if GIMP 2.3 is available in the repos yet? or must i install an isolated .deb?
[11:21] <jonaskul_> what is error 21?
[11:21] <stefg> !info gimp
[11:21] <ubotu> gimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.13-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2891 kB, installed size 7900 kB
[11:21] <SonicChao> dooglus, It wasn like that when I first installed ubuntu, was it?
[11:21] <afreddin> not really i have an exam in an hour
[11:21] <LinTux> Anybody know where I can get a version of callme for skype that works in Ubuntu
[11:21] <dooglus> SonicChao: I don't think ubuntu installs 2 kernels, but each time the kernel version is bumped, the last-but-one kernel version is kept
[11:21] <ror> woohoo found http://browserbookapp.sourceforge.net/
[11:22] <dooglus> SonicChao: probably because when you first install, the installed kernel is known to be good, so there's no need of a backup
[11:22] <SonicChao> dooglus, This is normal, then? I am just over reacting then?
[11:22] <dooglus> SonicChao: it's normal, yes
[11:22] <dooglus> SonicChao: I only have one kernel, but I'm running a live CD
[11:22] <dooglus> SonicChao: everyone else has 2.
[11:22] <Thiago_Chiclete> ol
[11:22] <SonicChao> Ok. Thanks. What kernel should I boot to then?
[11:23] <dooglus> SonicChao: the one with the bigger number
[11:23] <dooglus> jonaskul_: #define EISDIR 21 /* Is a directory */
[11:23] <Taime1> how do i use vncserver so that i can connect to my linux box from my windows box at work?
[11:23] <dooglus> jonaskul_: (from /usr/include/linux/errno.h)
[11:24] <SonicChao> dooglus, thanks :) So you boot to the other one when you get a '[KERNEL PANIC] '? :D (I have had one before D: )
[11:24] <dooglus> Taime1: do you want to connect to your existing desktop, or to a separate desktop?
[11:24] <Taime1> vnc viewer seems to be installed, but i dont know how to setup the server
[11:24] <Dybber> Can I get the new Gnome-control-center to appear in the System-menu?
[11:24] <dooglus> SonicChao: that's it.  if the kernel with the biggest version number stops working, you've got a 'spare' to use to fix it - that's the idea
[11:24] <Stormx2> Taime1: vnc viewer is the viewer, not the server...
[11:24] <Taime1> i know
[11:25] <dooglus> Taime1: see 'remote desktop' on the 3rd menu somewhere?
[11:25] <jonaskul_> i dont understand. it came from a fresh installation right now. when is was loading grub
[11:25] <Taime1> thats my question... how to use the server... is it even installed?
[11:25] <dooglus> Taime1: 'remote desktop' is ubuntuese for VNC
[11:25] <Stormx2> Taime1: yeah, actually
[11:25] <Taime1> ahh
[11:25] <SonicChao> dooglus: thank you :D
[11:25] <Taime1> lemme look into it
[11:25] <Stormx2> Taime1: System > Preferences > Remote Desktop
[11:25] <LinTux> t is the command to install a file via the SH command
[11:25] <dooglus> Taime1: I don't know why they have to use such weird language; why can't they just use regular English?
[11:25] <Taime1> be back later
[11:26] <LinTux> whatt is the command to install a file via the SH command
[11:26] <dooglus> LinTux: "sh sudo apt-get install file.deb" ?
[11:27] <drygnfyre> is there an easy way to install Firefox 3 alpha 3 alongside the official Firefox 2 from the package manager?
[11:27] <chili555> LinTux sh <file>.sh after u make it executable, of course
[11:27] <PovAddict> how do I reboot forcing the system to run fsck on startup?
[11:27] <PovAddict> manpages aren't being helpful
[11:28] <dooglus> PovAddict: is it an ext3 fs?
[11:28] <PovAddict> um
[11:28] <PovAddict> yeah it is
[11:29] <erUSUL> PovAddict: 'sudo touch /forcefsck'
[11:29] <nickreynolds> can anyone help me with setting up ubuntu as an gateway
[11:30] <PovAddict> ok, hoping it will work
[11:30] <grameentechie> Looking for some really basic help with apt-get NetworkManager.  Newbie
[11:30] <dooglus> PovAddict: see 'man tune2fs'
[11:30] <nickreynolds> how do i get my ubuntu machine to allow my other computers to connect to the internet
[11:31] <dooglus> PovAddict: that can be used to tell it to check the filesystem on every boot
[11:31] <PovAddict> dooglus: already rebooted and lost ssh connection, waiting...
[11:31] <Enverex> What's going on with Feisty? One boot my drives are hdX next time they are sdX now they are back to being hdX
[11:31] <dooglus> PovAddict: bear in mind that you'll not be able to interact with the fsck process - the sshd won't come up until after it's finished
[11:32] <PovAddict> I know
[11:32] <dooglus> PovAddict: did you try an fsck while it was mounted?
[11:32] <solifugus> Question: How can I find out what my screen resolution is?
[11:32] <PovAddict> there's actually a human there watching, but he's not very linux-expert
[11:33] <velko> SonicChao: passwd
[11:33] <solifugus> How can I find out what resolution X is running at?
[11:33] <PovAddict> dooglus: errors already
[11:33] <PovAddict> ata2: translated ata stat/err 0xd0/00 to scsi sk/asc/ascq 0xb/7/00
[11:33] <Shirmpy_> what is the thing yo love most about ubuntu
[11:33] <ash211> solifugus: `xrandr`
[11:33] <PovAddict> apt<3
[11:33] <solifugus> tanks!
[11:33] <basvg> SonicChao: you probably want to fiddle with System->Preferences->about me bit
[11:34] <SonicChao> oh.
[11:34] <SonicChao> I thought it would be in 'Users and Groups'
[11:34] <SonicChao> sorry.
[11:34] <SonicChao> basvg: will this change the rootpassword too? (I am the sole user)
[11:34] <dooglus> !root
[11:34] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:35] <PovAddict> SonicChao: if you mean the pw you use with sudo, yeah it will
[11:35] <roland_> a
[11:35] <SonicChao> POVaddct, yeah, that is what I meant.
[11:35] <PovAddict> dooglus: apparently it booted though
[11:35] <sam__> how do i make fonts in gtk1.2 less ugly?
[11:36] <sam__> they're all jaggy like the hinting is messed up
[11:36] <zax1> was here a couple of days ago, and quux gave me a command line to reinstall the tcp/ip protocols on xp - ithink it was netsh ip....something, any one knows whats the rest of it?
[11:36] <grameentechie> If I use the command sudo apt-get install, the most common response is "couldn't find package  xyz".   Help.
[11:36] <Enverex> sam_, You can't, it's GTK1, heh
[11:36] <nickreynolds> grameentechie how do i get it to install
[11:36] <nickreynolds> the network manager
[11:36] <sam__> i just want plain unantialiased helvetica
[11:36] <sam__> it's not beautiful, but it doesn't look like they're wrung out either
[11:36] <bokey> grameentechie: it's because apt can't find the package
[11:36] <PovAddict> grameentechie: apt-cache search [what you're looking for]
[11:37] <PovAddict> grameentechie: or use aptitude, it has a visual package list
[11:37] <zax1> was here a couple of days ago, and quux gave me a command line to reinstall the tcp/ip protocols on xp - ithink it was netsh ip....something, any one knows whats the rest of it?
[11:37] <bokey> grameentechie: do "sudo apt-cache <package-name>" to look for the package
[11:37] <Taime1> so in Remote Desktop, it tells me that people can connect to my desktop by using the command vncviewer name-of-my-computer:0    i dont see how that could possibly work
[11:37] <bokey> !apt | grameentechie:
[11:37] <ubotu> grameentechie:: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[11:37] <Taime1> what am i missing here?
[11:37] <bokey> !ask | Taime1
[11:37] <ubotu> Taime1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:37] <PovAddict> Taime1: "i dont see how that could possibly work" what do you mean?
[11:38] <dooglus> Taime1: vnc adds 5900 to the given 'display' number
[11:38] <dooglus> so :0 means port 5900
[11:38] <Taime1> bokey, look at what i typed
[11:38] <glos_wifi> can any1 help me, just installed 6.10 and i cant get my wifi card to work, even though it says on the wiki "works out of the box"
[11:38] <velko> Taime1: ignore dooglus advice. the does not mean the port number
[11:38] <dooglus> Taime1: try 'telnet localhost 5900' - it should connect, showing you that the vnc server is listening on port 5900
[11:38] <Contract> Hi I installed ubuntu server 6.10 and I'm trying to get the gui installed but when I try "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" it tells me it cannot find the ubuntu-desktop package.
[11:39] <PovAddict> and that other thunder almost gives me a heart attack
[11:39] <dooglus> velko: I wasn't offering advice, I was telling him what was going on.
[11:39] <grameentechie> I'm following the advice of this guy http://mediakey.dk/~cc/howto-use-wep-encryption-with-ubuntu-linux/  which supposedly helps me get WEP going.  I've tried "restricted xxx" where xxx is the WEP key in the built-in network configuration tool.
[11:39] <velko> Taime1: your peer have to connect to your computer using "xvncviewer <your_ip_address>:0"
[11:39] <PovAddict> Taime1: it worked for me (connecting to your computer), asked me password
[11:39] <dooglus> velko: that's not true.
[11:40] <Taime1> before you start thats what i thought
[11:40] <velko> dooglus: why not?
[11:40] <Taime1> oops
[11:40] <Shafto> !find ubuntu-desktop
[11:40] <ubotu> Found: edubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop
[11:40] <dooglus> velko: from a windows box they could connect without having to type that
[11:40] <Taime1> i mean, thats what i thought
[11:40] <PovAddict> you don't need the :0
[11:40] <Shafto> !info ubuntu-desktop
[11:40] <PovAddict> it's the default
[11:40] <ubotu> ubuntu-desktop: The Ubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.30 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 44 kB
[11:40] <dooglus> velko: using realvnc on windows, for example, they would connect using <his ip>:5900
[11:40] <grameentechie> [bokey]  I tried sudo apt-cache and don't find the exact package mentioned.
[11:40] <bokey> Taime1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X11vnc
[11:40] <PovAddict> or without the :5900
[11:40] <Taime1> well, then the remote desktop setup screen is just wrong then?.... i wonder why it has it written that way
[11:40] <velko> dooglus: maybe i missed something. i think he speaks about another linux box
[11:41] <NemesisD> hey guys I have mysql installed on my windows partition (ntfs) and I'm looking to create a symbolic link to my linux mysql datadir
[11:41] <dooglus> velko: maybe he does, but you said the peer *has* to use xvncviewer.  they don't.
[11:41] <bokey> Taime1: well then there is no package by that name
[11:41] <Taime1> will someone try to connect ?
[11:41] <NemesisD> will this prevent mysql from writing to the ntfs partition?
[11:41] <velko> dooglus: :0 mean the x display number, not the port
[11:41] <instabin> I upgraded 6.10 to 7.04 and when i used the restricted drives manager to install the nvidia driver it wont start x. Says it faild to load glx
[11:41] <dooglus> velko: they can use any vnc viewer which will connect on port 5900
[11:41] <bokey> Taime1: yeah. /msg me your IP
[11:41] <Taime1> anyone else?
[11:41] <Taime1> haha
[11:41] <dooglus> velko: display :0 is port 5900, display :1 is port 5901, display :x is port (5900+x).
[11:41] <dooglus> geddit?
[11:42] <Taime1> just teasin ya, bokey
[11:42] <velko> dooglus: thank you. didn't knew that
[11:42] <instabin> can anyone help?
[11:42] <atselby> I've read stuff that on Dell Inspirons there's a windows app that lets you control fan speeds etc. Is there an equivalant on Linux?.
[11:42] <bokey> POVaddct: i don't /whois people. ;)
[11:42] <PovAddict> display :0 port 5900 is the default, you don't need to type it explicitly; hostname/ip alone will work
[11:42] <glos_wifi> can any1 help me, just installed 6.10 and i cant get my wifi card to work, even though it says on the wiki "works out of the box"
[11:43] <dooglus> Taime1: password?
[11:43] <instabin> I upgraded 6.10 to 7.04 and when i used the restricted drives manager to install the nvidia driver it wont start x. Says it faild to load glx
[11:43] <Flannel> !wifi | glos_wifi
[11:43] <ubotu> glos_wifi: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:43] <Taime1> possward
[11:43] <Taime1> hehe
[11:43] <Flannel> instabin: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty support
[11:43] <instabin> Flannel Thanks
[11:43] <sakabatou> What is the ctrl + alt + del equivalent for linux ?
[11:43] <Shafto> instabin: You tried just changing driver back to "nv" in x conf?
[11:43] <Crazytom> glos_wifi, what chipset?
[11:43] <dooglus> Taime1: I can connect, but the password is wrong
[11:44] <atselby> instabin: what's your problem?
[11:44] <Taime1> port number5901, sorry
[11:44] <PovAddict> sakabatou: ctrl + alt + del usually reboots your machine on Linux
[11:44] <instabin> Shafto I did but i want to use the restricted driver
[11:44] <glos_wifi> Crazytom: Realtek RTL8185
[11:44] <instabin> atselby: I upgraded 6.10 to 7.04 and when i used the restricted drives manager to install the nvidia driver it wont start x. Says it faild to load glx
[11:44] <Shafto> instabin: Just thought to maybe get it up and running XD
[11:44] <instabin> Shafto: yep got it up and running when i modified the xorg.conf
[11:45] <caldera> hola
[11:45] <atselby> instabin: yeah, im not familar with the restricted drivers manager but yesterday tehre was basically the god of it in +1 so.. good luck.
[11:45] <instabin> shafto: but i want the restricted driver so i can use beryl
[11:45] <bokey> Taime1: all good ?
[11:45] <Taime1> i think so
[11:45] <bokey> caldera: change that nick. :P
[11:45] <Shafto> instabin: Maybe try #ubuntu+1
[11:46] <dooglus> Taime1: your server is listening on port 5900 (display :0) not 5901
[11:46] <Taime1> nono
[11:46] <instabin> Shafto: Im already there
[11:46] <Taime1> i am on two computers right now
[11:46] <dooglus> Taime1: oh, I see
[11:46] <Taime1> i am trying to test the one that is using 5901
[11:46] <Shafto> instabin: Well if its a feisty problem they're most likely to know
[11:46] <dooglus> Taime1: same external IP address?
[11:46] <nickreynolds> does anyone know how to setup a ubuntu machine to be a network gateway
[11:46] <grameentechie> PovAddict:  Using the visual package list as well.   I've modified my sources by hand.
[11:47] <atselby> I've read stuff that on Dell Inspirons there's a windows app that lets you control fan speeds etc. Is there an equivalant on Linux?
[11:47] <nickreynolds> i have a dynamic ip address for the internet connection
[11:47] <Taime1> yes, dooglus
[11:47] <dooglus> Taime1: you'll need to forward port 5901 on the router
[11:47] <PovAddict> YEAY
[11:47] <dooglus> PovAddict: sorted?
[11:47] <Taime1> i did that
[11:47] <PovAddict> mkinitrd crap worked fine after rebooting and forcing fsck
[11:47] <Taime1> im testing it right now
[11:47] <Taime1> hang on
[11:47] <dooglus> PovAddict: yay!
[11:48] <Taime1> thank you guys for all the help!!
[11:48] <Taime1> somedays i get totally ignored, today i had way to many people involved, haha
[11:48] <nickreynolds> anyone know anything on setting up a network gateway machine
[11:48] <Taime1> but thank you
[11:48] <bokey> Taime1: it's Ubuntu.
[11:48] <bokey> heh
[11:48] <PovAddict> Taime1: not strange with 1093 users on a channel
[11:48] <b^j> nickreynolds, i have set up a few
[11:49] <bokey> the rule is that less people there are on the channel, the better
[11:49] <bokey> ;)
[11:49] <nickreynolds> is it possible to use one with a dynamic ip DSL connection
[11:49] <ppepp> is it likely a ubuntu box can be (h)accessed and have some remotedesktop type thing put on it? i have an overly sensitive mousepad but i swear i see it moving sometimes.
[11:49] <drega> SonicChao: passwd
[11:49] <atselby> I've read stuff that on Dell Inspirons there's a windows app that lets you control fan speeds etc. Is there an equivalant on Linux?
[11:49] <b^j> nickreynolds, sure, i did it that way for a while
[11:49] <SonicChao> drega: o.o
[11:49] <SonicChao> I learned that a long time ago
[11:49] <jpsamara> ubuntu should have an firewall by default
[11:50] <SonicChao> but thanks anyway :)
[11:50] <Lattyware> Best Slashdot Joke Ever: In Soviet Ubuntu - Apt Gets You!
[11:50] <SonicChao> Lattyware, haha, agreed
[11:50] <nickreynolds> i was using a linksys router but know want use this
[11:50] <bokey> jpsamara: yes it does.
[11:50] <bokey> !iptables | jpsamara
[11:50] <ubotu> jpsamara: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:51] <nickreynolds> can i route my internet connection through my ubuntu box then through my linksys to my other machines
[11:51] <nickreynolds> my windows machines
[11:51] <glos_wifi> !wifi
[11:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:51] <bokey> nickreynolds: your question is little bit flawed. Can you please be more specific ?
[11:51] <b^j> nickreynolds, sure
[11:52] <b^j> nickreynolds, you just need to set up your ubunutu box to NAT for the rest
[11:52] <drega> nickreynolds: why are you looking to do it this way?
[11:52] <Worrum> hello, does anyone know where i could find help with NetworkManager shipped with the new feisty fawn?
[11:52] <Flannel> Worrum: #ubuntu+1 for the time being
[11:52] <Worrum> thanks
[11:52] <b^j> nickreynolds, i have not set that up with linux for a while, but there are good docs out there
[11:53] <nickreynolds> I am trying to setup a network gateway, to authenticate users, store data, and be a firewall. At present I have the ubuntu box with to network cards in them. One hooked up to the net, and the other to my router WAN
[11:53] <b^j> nickreynolds, i am using an openbsd box to do just that currently
[11:53] <nickreynolds> i am unsure where to go from here
[11:53] <Crazytom> nickreynolds, look up ipchains
[11:53] <kitche> nickreynolds: I would use a router livecd for now until you do some reasearch
[11:54] <bokey> Crazytom: ipchains is deprecated.
[11:54] <bokey> !iptables | nickreynolds
[11:54] <ubotu> nickreynolds: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:54] <velko> Crazytom: iptables replaced ipchains
[11:54] <kitche> bah I been spellign research wrong the whoel time
[11:54] <drega> so you need to set up the routing tables to route between subnet on eth0 and eth1 or whatever your interfaces are
[11:54] <kitche> bokey: velko your both incorrect iptables does ipchains way also :)
[11:54] <Crazytom> oh ok i've been out of the game for awhile but atleast it was a place to start thanks for the info
[11:54] <drega> aye like ubotu  pointed out
[11:54] <nickreynolds> And this will allow me to share the internet between my other machines as well
[11:54] <bokey> nickreynolds: although I am not 100% sure how you could do NAT with iptables. SNAT is possible with iptables.
[11:54] <velko> kitche: i stand corrected
[11:54] <mr__daniel> do anyone know a good american magazine?
[11:55] <Kyral> For what?
[11:55] <mr__daniel> or newspaper?
[11:55] <nickreynolds> maxim
[11:55] <nickreynolds> mr. daniel maxim
[11:55] <drega> playboy
[11:55] <bokey> mr__daniel: yes. Esquire
[11:55] <mr__daniel> something like 'the times'
[11:55] <kitche> velko: just that people prefer the iptable way instead but it's backwards compatiable
[11:55] <Kyral> New York Times is considered by many to THE newspaper
[11:55] <drega> usatoday
[11:55] <bokey> mr__daniel: this is not a survey channel. please shoo
[11:55] <mr__daniel> ok
[11:56] <nickreynolds> I trying to make it so that the ubuntu machine is the PDC and network gateway
[11:56] <drega> I suppose the question should have been magazine over what topic
[11:56] <NemesisD> fixed it
[11:56] <mojojojo_> how do I set in gnome so the default file view was ListView????
[11:56] <NemesisD> hey guys, I use ultraedit for scripting in windows, is there a text editor (gui) thats generally recognized as the best for ubuntu
[11:56] <bokey> mojojojo_: if you open nautilus (which is default), you'll see the listview option in the option
[11:56] <b^j> NemesisD, gedit is good
[11:57] <drega> you using gnome? kde?
[11:57] <drega> gedit gvim
[11:57] <Kyral> NemesisD: Thats a thing thats up to opinion
[11:57] <NemesisD> gnome
[11:57] <drega> kate
[11:57] <bokey> NemesisD: yes. For start I'd recommend gedit too
[11:57] <bokey> !gedit | NemesisD
[11:57] <ubotu> NemesisD: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[11:57] <Kyral> Vim, Kate, GEdit, Netbeans, KDevelop, Emacs...
[11:57] <NemesisD> okie dokie, thanks
[11:58] <bokey> NemesisD: press ALT+F2 and type "gedit"
[11:58] <bokey> ;)
[11:58] <nickreynolds> i have ubuntu connected directly to the net, and also connected to my linksys router WAN, why can't the other machines on my network get on the web
[11:58] <mojojojo_> bokey: but I want to open like that ALWAYS and at startup
[11:58] <b^j> nickreynolds, have you set up a NAT yet?
[11:58] <bokey> mojojojo_: add it to your startup configuration.
[11:58] <velko> mojojojo_: go to the preferences. it's on the first page, man
[11:58] <atselby> Anyone here have a Dell Inspiron?
[11:58] <nickreynolds> no sure how, and what is that BJ
[11:58] <bokey> mojojojo_: look inside Ubuntu Menu > System >
[11:59] <bokey> mojojojo_: i am not using gnome so can't help
[11:59] <mojojojo_> bokey: ok, thank you
[11:59] <b^j> nickreynolds, i have not done it for a while. google "linux nat iptables" there are lots of guides
[11:59] <b^j> nickreynolds, i use openbsd for that
[11:59] <nickreynolds> ok thank you
[11:59] <velko> mojojojo_: open the preferences in nautilus. on the first tab is the option you are looking for
[11:59] <nickreynolds> why
[11:59] <bokey> nickreynolds: you can always use shorewall if you are more techie oriented.
[11:59] <bokey> nickreynolds: ;)
[11:59] <b^j> nickreynolds, personal preference, i prefer pf to iptables
[12:00] <nickreynolds> k
[12:00] <Kyral> PortSentry!
[12:00] <nickreynolds> i see
[12:00] <nickreynolds> what is shorewall
[12:00] <bokey> !shorewall | nickreynolds
[12:00] <ubotu> nickreynolds: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:00] <nickreynolds> a firewall?
[12:00] <bokey> !info shorewall | nickreynolds
[12:00] <Kyral> PortSentry > All
[12:00] <ubotu> nickreynolds: shorewall: Shoreline Firewall (Shorewall), a high-level tool for configuring Netfilter. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.7-1 (edgy), package size 232 kB, installed size 1096 kB