[08:11] <nicekiwi> into*
[08:11] <kuckuck> Guten Morgen
[08:13] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: dont have a option for that at grub menu?
[08:13] <almoxarife> !de
[08:13] <puppy_parade> ><
[08:14] <puppy_parade> still can't push 1440p on 12.10
[08:14] <almoxarife> puppy_parade: its hard to say, can you pastebin /var/log/syslog
[08:14] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, no. Only for recovery which mounts the harddrive in readonly mode
[08:15] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: there is always control-alt-f1/f5
[08:15] <Jordan_U> jquip: I'm actually back by the way, though it looks like you're set.
[08:16] <puppy_parade> almoxarife, all I'm seeing is apt-demon and avahi-daemon
[08:16] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, that dosnt kill X
[08:16] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: no, it does not
[08:17] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, so.. kinda not a solution for booting..
[08:18] <chuxxsss> Hi all, again.  I have really stuff my package manager up this time for good I think.
[08:19] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: probably not, killing it after the fact wont work?
[08:19] <Jordan_U> DarwinSurvivor: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[08:19] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: What exactly are you trying to do?
[08:20] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, boot into commanline
[08:20] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: but not single-user mode?
[08:20] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, no..
[08:21] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, and passing 'quiet splash text' ar brug just gives me a blank screen
[08:21] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: leave off "quiet splash" and tell me what happens
[08:22] <almoxarife> gordonjcp: that will still boot into the graphics, minus those two options
[08:23] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, just a blank screen
[08:23] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: is this a temp thing? or permanent?
[08:23] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: totally totaly blank?
[08:23] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: nothing *ever* comes up?
[08:23] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, temporary to install drivers.
[08:23] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, nope, never. The monitor says it has signal but its just black
[08:24] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: then why not kill xorg do the install then reboot?
[08:24] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: so at no point after hitting the power button do you see *anything*?
[08:24] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, could o i guess, just so annying thatit wont work in 12.10, worked 100% fine in 12.04
[08:25] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: what is the actual issue?
[08:25] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, after the bios screen and after hitting CtrlX after modifying grub nothing.
[08:25] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, I want to boot into commandline to install drivers.
[08:25] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: that's not actually possible
[08:25] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: it sounds like your computer is broken
[08:25] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: then why not kill xorg do the install then reboot?
[08:26] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, what do you mean?
[08:26] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: if you remove "quiet splash" from the boot options and put "text" there, you should at least see the boot messages
[08:26] <helloworldpp> esc #
[08:26] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: okay, try "nomodeset text"
[08:27] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, I do not.
[08:27] <nicekiwi> k
[08:28] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, still black
[08:28] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: broken monitor?
[08:28] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: are you rebooting, i cant tell from this client
[08:28] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, boot messages never seemed to show normally with nvidia drivers installed anyways.
[08:28] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, monitor works 100%
[08:29] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: at this point the drivers are irrelevant
[08:29] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: did you install nvidia-current?
[08:29] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, I am rebooting
[08:29] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: they're not used until X starts
[08:29] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, correct
[08:29] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: then what are you having to go down to no graphics for?
[08:30] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, to install beta nvidia drivers
[08:30] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: i see, good luck
[08:30] <nicekiwi> it seems if I hit Ctrl+Alt+F2 once the screen goes black I reveals text login screen
[08:30] <nicekiwi> very odd
[08:31] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: not odd, its a terminal screen
[08:32] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, very odd actually.. now how do I run a .run file? 0_o
[08:32] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: xorg is still running
[08:33] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, incorrect
[08:33] <almoxarife> ok
[08:33] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, the Nividia installer which is currently running would crash and burn if so
[08:33] <almoxarife> ok
[08:34] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, thats for ur help in anycase, i realise my reponses didnt make a lot of sense
[08:35] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: wait, are you using the nvidia installer from the nvidia site?
[08:35] <almoxarife> gordonjcp: of course
[08:35] <almoxarife> the big secret
[08:37] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, yes
[08:38] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, 0_o secret?
[08:38] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: how does your install last thru the next kernel update?
[08:38] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, it dosnt, i simply reinstal untill the stable nvidia is released and aded to the ubuntu repos
[08:38] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: hmm, keep some install media handy
[08:39] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, why that?
[08:39] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: I hope it works for you
[08:39] <gordonjcp> I don't have much confidence in that though
[08:39] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: did the hardware and the graphics card comeout last week?
[08:39] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, no?
[08:39] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: did the hardware and the graphics card comeout last week? last month?
[08:40] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, no?
[08:40] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: ok
[08:40] <nicekiwi> 3 or 4 years old i guess
[08:40] <nicekiwi> maybe a bit less
[08:40] <ionwind> hello
[08:41] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, one word. Valve.
[08:41] <ionwind> i have problem with flash and chromium
[08:41] <Krambiorix> Nov 20 09:34:19 mx1 postfix/master[1674]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/tlsmgr: bad command startup -- throttling            What can i do about it?
[08:41] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: ok, i hope it works out for you then
[08:41] <Krambiorix> the whole error is: Nov 20 09:40:24 mx1 postfix/tlsmgr[1949]: fatal: open database /var/lib/postfix/smtpd_scache.db: Invalid argument
[08:41] <Krambiorix> Nov 20 09:40:25 mx1 postfix/master[1674]: warning: process /usr/lib/postfix/tlsmgr pid 1949 exit status 1
[08:41] <Krambiorix> Nov 20 09:40:25 mx1 postfix/master[1674]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/tlsmgr: bad command startup -- throttling
[08:42] <almoxarife> Krambiorix: stop already
[08:43] <almoxarife> !flash
[08:44] <ionwind> it try all these
[08:45] <Krambiorix> almoxarife, ???
[08:46] <almoxarife> Krambiorix: yes?
 Krambiorix: stop already
[08:47] <almoxarife> Krambiorix: yes, dont use the channel as a pastebin
[08:47] <Krambiorix> almoxarife, ok will do
[08:48] <flynsarmy> /lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/build: No such file or directory <-- how do i get that directory to exist?
[08:49] <almoxarife> flynsarmy: you compiling from source?
[08:49] <flynsarmy> almoxarife: no, installing acpi_call module
[08:50] <Krambiorix> this is my problem, anyone a solution? http://pastebin.com/dvpwaaA3
[08:51] <iamzim> flynsarmy: build folders usually have os after them, build_unix
[08:51] <almoxarife> flynsarmy: i would say you are missing dev files/packages from the looks of it
[08:51] <flynsarmy> iamzim, almoxarife: it's just a package i need to install, i've done it before. forgot thte package though
[08:52] <subdesign> anybody has problem setting wallpapers with Unubu Tweak ?
[08:53] <subdesign> *Ubuntu
[08:53] <almoxarife> Krambiorix: i googled it for you,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1504775 , someone has seen that before
[08:55] <Krambiorix> almoxarife, yes, i did that already but the messages won't go away
[08:56] <almoxarife> Krambiorix: no idea, i dont allow that service to run, not sure what i am missing
[08:57] <gordonjcp> almoxarife: which "service"?
[08:57] <almoxarife> postfix
[08:57] <ionwind> thanks i try again
[08:57] <gordonjcp> almoxarife: ...
[08:57] <almoxarife> postfix gordonjcp
[08:57] <gordonjcp> almoxarife: yes, I'm just surprised that a) you don't know what it is, b) you didn't bother to check what it is, and c) you stopped it running without bothering to check what it is
[08:58] <gordonjcp> almoxarife: run, *now*
[08:58] <gordonjcp> almoxarife: that's the thing that stops it becoming Skynet
[08:58] <almoxarife> gordonjcp: i do know, i didnt need the chatter in the mailbox
[08:58] <gordonjcp> almoxarife: heh
[08:59] <gordonjcp> almoxarife: if you're not actually running a mail server, you can get rid of it
[08:59] <almoxarife> gordonjcp: yes
[09:00] <almoxarife> gordonjcp: and i assume mailbox servers on ubuntu machines are evildoers too
[09:01] <Chartax> Hey folks, I don't have much time to stay and diagnose this at the moment, but I thought it might be worth a shot: Windows 7 Software RAID in Ubuntu
[09:01] <iceroot> almoxarife: normally you always need a MTA (mail transport agent)
[09:02] <pradeep> hey, community  i am new to ubuntu how can i have only one work space
[09:02] <Chartax> Is there any way I can get access to it without having to break the array?
[09:02] <iceroot> almoxarife: on every unix/linux system
[09:02] <jackiechan0> Is there someone English Motherlanguage ?
[09:02] <iceroot> jackiechan0: #english
[09:02] <almoxarife> iceroot: is that the postfix service?
[09:02] <jackiechan0> ice799: thanks
[09:02] <iceroot> almoxarife: yes, postfix is the default MTA in ubuntu
[09:02] <jackiechan0> iceroot: thanks
[09:03] <agu10^> how do people contribute with me on open source software?
[09:04] <gordonjcp> agu10^: that sounds like a question you should take to #ubuntu-offtopic ;-)
[09:04] <agu10^> ok
[09:05] <almoxarife> iceroot: i had to check, didnt want to talk out of turn, service postfix is not running, and i email just fine
[09:05] <DarwinSurvivor> jordan: I'm using 12.10 (64 bit)
[09:05] <almoxarife> DarwinSurvivor: :)
[09:06] <vthakkar> Hey Guys
[09:06] <vthakkar> I have a question about linux signals
[09:06] <vthakkar> Is this the right channel for this question
[09:06] <vthakkar> I am using IRC for the first time
[09:07] <almoxarife> vthakkar: welcome
[09:07] <vthakkar> Hi
[09:07] <DarwinSurvivor> vthakkar: best to just ask the question, if it's not appropriate for the channel, someone will direct you to the appropriate channel
[09:07] <vthakkar> Ok, so the question is the following
[09:08] <vthakkar> I have a parent process which periodically does wait() and terminates when the child process exits and returns it's status
[09:09] <vthakkar> Now I want that when the child process terminates, the parent process should come out of sleep immediately and do the processing required
[09:09] <vthakkar> how do I do that in linux
[09:09] <vthakkar> ?
[09:10] <auronandace> vthakkar: perhaps ##linux is a better channel to ask in
[09:11] <vthakkar> ok, thanks I will try there.
[09:11] <DarwinSurvivor> vthakkar: yes, ##linux sounds best. at a quick glance, wait should already do that for you, so you may need to explain more thuroughly what you are currently experiencing
[09:16] <iceroot> almoxarife: postfix has nothing to do with your "real" mail like gmail, gmx, hotmail and so on, its the internal mail (used by cron for example)
[09:16] <iceroot> almoxarife: a MTA is needed for the unix/linux system to operate correctly and to inform the user
[09:16] <almoxarife> iceroot: i didnt realize that ubuntu uses postfix for MTA, and i use opensuse which uses 'sendmail' as MTA, so i should not have said a thing to the nick that had the isue with postfix, my bad
[09:17] <almoxarife> issue
[09:17] <iceroot> !mta | almoxarife
[09:18] <iceroot> almoxarife: sendmail is fine too but (if you dont have to configure it...)
[09:18] <almoxarife> iceroot: mta for ubuntu 'postfix' , got it
[09:18] <iceroot> almoxarife: :)
[09:19] <almoxarife> iceroot: mta for opensuse 'sendmail'
[09:21] <almoxarife> any reqonk gurus here/.
[09:21] <almoxarife> ?
[09:21] <kloes> hello all
[09:21] <cfhowlett> kloes: greetings
[09:21] <almoxarife> rekonq, how to set mime types, anyone have an idea?
[09:21] <kloes> is there a way to install old version of ubuntu with netinstall  minimal cd?
[09:22] <kloes> or minimal cd is only for the current release
[09:22] <kloes> I tried with 10.04 minimal
[09:22] <almoxarife> kloes: does the netinstall allow you to setup the repos?
[09:22] <kloes> but I can not get the installer
[09:23] <kloes> I can set up manual ubuntu archive and choose from list
[09:24] <almoxarife> kloes: that case then, getting the packages from archive/10.04 an issue?
[09:24] <kloes> yes
[09:24] <kloes> I can nto get any package
[09:24] <kloes> *not
[09:24] <kloes> I tried many other archive
[09:24] <almoxarife> kloes: what happens?
[09:24] <kloes> archive mirrors
[09:25] <kloes> the executed a shell
[09:25] <kloes> I can ping yahoo
[09:25] <kloes> shell says yahoo is active
[09:25] <kloes> so I think the connection is OK
[09:25] <kloes> when I try conecting for the mirror I get nothing
[09:25] <almoxarife> kloes: you get 404 error you mean?
[09:25] <kloes> just waiting
[09:26] <kloes> I have installed 10.04 before when was active release with netinstall
[09:26] <kloes> there were no problems
[09:26] <kloes> the installer comes and I get packages
[09:26] <kloes> now- nothing
[09:26] <kloes> no it comes nothing on the screen
[09:27] <infz_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2085902 any ideas? :)
[09:28] <almoxarife> kloes: what named version is 10.04?
[09:28] <kloes> lucid
[09:28] <kloes> I think
[09:29] <kloes> Ubuntu_10.04_Lucid_Lynx_Minimal
[09:29] <almoxarife> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/ <-- this the repo?
[09:29] <almoxarife> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/ <-- this the repo? kloes
[09:30] <kloes> should I connect to that?
[09:30] <kloes> I have tried the mirror in us
[09:30] <almoxarife> kloes: if you want lucid yes
[09:30] <kloes> I selected it from the mirror list in netinstall
[09:30] <kloes> ok
[09:30] <kloes> I'll try right away with quemu
[09:40] <pratz> Hello guys
[09:40] <gian_> !pastbin
[09:40] <pratz> I am using Ubuntu 1.04
[09:40] <cfhowlett> Greetings pratz
[09:40] <pratz> *12.04
[09:40] <pratz> the problem now is I can not do 'sudo apt-get update'
[09:41] <gian_> How to do to past?
[09:41] <cfhowlett> pratz: error messages?
[09:41] <cfhowlett> !paste|gian_:
[09:41] <cnf> hmz, silly curl
[09:41] <cnf> giving me curl: (52) Empty reply from server
[09:41] <pratz> I have just now installed U12.04 in my company
[09:41] <cfhowlett> pratz: do you get an error message?
[09:41] <pratz> I think they have some blocked ports , but I do not have information about those
[09:41] <pratz> cfhowlett: my company has some block ports and I do not have any information about that
[09:42] <murlidhar> can anyone confirm to me that the package " gnome-media-player " isn't working on 12.10
[09:42] <cfhowlett> pratz: I'd start with looking into port permissions.
[09:42] <pratz> cfhowlett: the only thing is that I have a proxy server details and port number
[09:43] <pratz> cfhowlett: here dude http://dpaste.com/833634/
[09:43] <murlidhar> it surely isn't working on 12.04 either!
[09:43] <cfhowlett> pratz: Configuring ports and such is over my paygrade.  Stay in channel and ask.
[09:43] <pratz> cfhowlett: no, but is that an port porblem ?
[09:44] <pratz> cfhowlett: hang on I am not sure if that is a port problem
[09:44] <cfhowlett> pratz: GPG error
[09:44] <pratz> cfhowlett: I have tried this $sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf
[09:44] <pratz> cfhowlett: but agian the same error
[09:45] <kloes> I 'm still waint installer to download the compenents
[09:45] <kloes> is gdm package available in 12.04?
[09:46] <kloes> aptitude can not find gdm
[09:46] <auronandace> !info gdm precise | kloes
[09:46] <auronandace> !aptitude | kloes
[09:47] <murlidhar> !info gnome-media-player
[09:47] <kloes> well i tried to get it with ap-get first
[09:48] <auronandace> kloes: sudo apt-get update and try again
[09:48] <kloes> apt-get can not find gdm
[09:48] <kloes> I did that
[09:49] <kloes> with 12.04 minimal it all works
[09:49] <kloes> with 10.04 minimal I still wait for the installer components
[09:50] <kloes> If i can install gdm with 12.04 I will go with tgat release
[09:50] <kloes> but It can not find gdm
[09:50] <MonkeyDust> kloes  what's keeping you from upgrading to 12.04?
[09:50] <kloes> i want to install gdm
[09:51] <MonkeyDust> kloes  i havent followed, did you try: ctrl-alt F1 and install gdm from there?
[09:52] <kloes> how to go back to the gui anfter ctrl alt f1?
[09:52] <MonkeyDust> kloes  ctrl-alt F7
[09:52] <kloes> ok
[09:55] <pratz> guys I am gettings this error http://dpaste.com/833634/
[09:56] <pratz> any one please
[09:56] <antonio_> Aloha folks...
[09:56] <antonio_> Does anyone here use an Android Razr and also play mp3s on it?  Trying to figure out how to transfer mp3s to my razr....and what player ot use
[09:56] <antonio_> to*
[09:57] <pratz> any one guys please http://dpaste.com/833634/
[09:57] <ikonia> pratz: that repo is broken
[09:57] <pratz> can not install any thing with out fixing this
[09:57] <ikonia> pratz: that repo is broken
[10:00] <pratz> ikonia: I selected the 'main server' from 'Update manager', still the same error
[10:00] <ikonia> pratz: please pastebin the error after you have selected main server
[10:01] <pratz> ikonia: here http://dpaste.com/833640/
[10:02] <pratz> ikonia: I have joined the current company few days back and they have let me install Ubuntu, but I think there are some ports blocked, but I am not sure if this the port problem
[10:02] <ikonia> pratz: delete the files referenced in /var/lib
[10:02] <pratz> ikonia: please guide me
[10:03] <pratz> ikonia: I run this command sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf and then sudo apt-get update , still the same error
[10:04] <pratz> ikonia: any ideas dude ?
[10:05] <pratz> ikonia: there is the full traceback http://dpaste.com/833642/
[10:05] <pratz> ikonia: they have provided me proxy server detials, will that help ?
[10:06] <pratz> ikonia: anything dude ?
[10:06] <ikonia> pratz: that doesn't look like a network access error
[10:06] <ikonia> pratz: try the proxy
[10:08] <pratz> ikonia: where to set the proxy ?
[10:08] <himcesjf> Hello! I'm not able to get x11vnc working after recent update. I've reconfigured DM for kdm over lightdm. x11vnc fails to start on the host system. Here are the past working and current failed attempts - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1367286/ . What am I missing in the command?
[10:08] <ikonia> pratz: a good question in 12.10
[10:09] <antonio_> Does anyone here use an Android Razr and also play mp3s on it?  Trying to figure out how to transfer mp3s to my razr....and what player to use
[10:09] <pratz> ikonia: I am using 12.04
[10:10] <ikonia> ok, in 12.04 then
[10:11] <kloes> hello all
[10:17] <kierxn> Hi kloes
[10:17] <kloes> hi
[10:24] <cyd> hiho
[10:25] <ionwind> hi
[10:26] <ionwind> i have a problem with flash and chrome ubuntu 12.04
[10:26] <samara2> hello linux
[10:26] <ionwind> some help please
[10:26] <cfhowlett> samara2: greetings
[10:27] <ionwind> i try install and reinstal several times flash, chrome, firefox and the extras for ubuntu
[10:30] <almoxarife> ionwind: in chrome, place this in the address block, "chrome://plugins/" , is 'flash' enabled?
[10:35] <ionwind> hi almoxarife
[10:35] <ionwind> yes
[10:36] <almoxarife> ionwind: yes it is enabled?
[10:36] <ionwind> http://pastebin.com/jPLEqVRt
[10:36] <ionwind> is in spanish but yes it is
[10:37] <ionwind> i try /etc/adobe# EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1
[10:38] <ionwind> but the same thing
[10:40] <john__> how do I connect two computers witha UTP and have them see the same internet connection?
[10:43] <john__> how do I connect two computers witha UTP and have them see the same internet connection?
[10:43] <vmachine1> internet connection sharing
[10:48] <iceroot> !ics | john__
[10:49] <kroosec> Is there a way to map FN-Keys to mplayer (so one can do next/previous track without going to the terminal where mplayer is running)
[10:58] <ioneye> Is there someone who can tell me if my pc specs can fully support Ubuntu 12.10?
[10:58] <agu10^> ioneye, they can
[10:59] <ioneye> Here are some of the basic specs: http://pastebin.com/nRhVsZpM
[10:59] <cairne> if you can't run full ubuntu 12.10 you might have good luck with xfce spin or lxde spin if your resources are minor
[11:00] <cairne> since my laptop has way less specs then that and runs ubuntu just fine, you will be just fine
[11:00] <yvesD> this will run just fine. not shure which driver for the AMD graphics card you need. you will find it in wiki
[11:01] <ioneye> I use to have an Nvidia 7400 and the screen was flickering. Thats why i am asking. If i am going to have any problems mainly regarding the ATI drivers or something familiar
[11:01] <ioneye> Edit: I used to have*
[11:02] <cairne> you have to play around, either the propetiary drivers or not, find which one works for you
[11:02] <cairne> I have a low end nvidia card and it handles unity way better then my ati card did
[11:02] <ioneye> Thats what i am trying to avoid. Playing around. Installing and Unistalling a whole operating system.
[11:02] <cairne> just the drivers not whole operating system
[11:03] <ioneye> Yeah but if the drivers are not able to support my graphic card then what other solution do i have besides trying something different.
[11:03] <cairne> ioneye: you could try a live distro or on a usb stick
[11:04] <ioneye> Good point. Thats something i didn't think of.
[11:05] <cairne> drivers are just something you got to get use to, even with windows, you have to install and setup drivers to get graphics cards to work at peak performance
[11:07] <ioneye> Well, in windows for example things are pretty straight forward. Download the latest drivers for the coresponding graphic card and you are done.
[11:07] <ioneye> Anyway, i am going to do what you suggested. Install it on a flash driver and mess around
[11:09] <yvesD> unetbootin?
[11:09] <cairne> ubuntu makes it pretty straight forward too, when you go into system there is a graphic that looks like a graphic card and says additional drivers, click on that and it will recomend the drivers for you
[11:11] <riqdiiz> Hi all what code can I input on a batch that launches a GUI program that requires a 'yes' or a 'no' to complete a task?
[11:13] <cairne> riqdiiz: graphicly you have to push yes? or is it an argument that you can pass at cli?
[11:16] <riqdiiz> Yes.but I want the script to do the push.what code Do I give?
[11:17] <btral> hi
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> riqdiiz  guess it depends on the command, some have -y you can add
[11:17] <OerHeks> riqdiiz, input y/n, here is an example > http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=48fadaad9f68358c325e70451e93ee8f&p=3228501&postcount=5
[11:17] <btral> how can i echo a stinr to end of last line of a file?
[11:21] <cairne> is it possible to interact with a gui with the cli? i would think once it ran with whatever arguments you pass at calling that would be it right?
[11:21] <cairne> if it even accepts arguments
[11:21] <mkuzu> hello
[11:22] <cairne> hey
[11:22] <Mrokii> Hello. So I've noticed a popup-menu in a few apps (like Firefox), when I doubleclick the address bar to mark a url. There are options like "Open in Firefox" and some others (can't remember and at the moment it does not seem to pop up...). Anyhow, this must be a Ubuntu thing, not Firefox-specific. Does anybody know where this is coming from or how to change the options? Or maybe how to deactivate it
[11:22] <Mrokii> alltogether?
[11:22] <mkuzu> weird problem: Files and folders in home folder are lost after reboot
[11:22] <mkuzu> I thought it was related to ltsp
[11:22] <mkuzu> but I guess not
[11:22] <mkuzu> weird thing is
[11:23] <mkuzu> that happened once before
[11:23] <mkuzu> and after a second reboot
[11:23] <mkuzu> home folder was restored
[11:23] <mkuzu> It shows that the home folder goes back to some October 13
[11:23] <cairne> mkuzu: please try and put it into a paragraph not through individual lines
[11:23] <mkuzu> ok
[11:24] <mkuzu> weird problem: Files and folders in home folder are lost after reboot
[11:24] <mkuzu> I thought it was related to ltsp
[11:24] <mkuzu> weird thing is
[11:24] <mkuzu> that happened once before
[11:24] <mkuzu> and after a second reboot
[11:24] <FloodBot1> mkuzu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:24] <mkuzu> home folder was restored
[11:25] <mkuzu> sorry I am not experienced in irc forums
[11:26] <MenZa> mkuzu: Just try and limit yourself to fewer lines of text.
[11:26] <Mrokii> mkuzu: Just write all your sentences in one go, not a new post for every sentence. :)
[11:29] <GandalfB> Hello All
[11:31] <yvesD> mkuzu, just use <enter> carefully
[11:32] <mkuzu> any idea
[11:35] <yvesD> shure you are the right user looking for his /home in cli? test with whoami?
[11:45] <ranjan>  Hi all, i have a network with mixed Windows and Linux Installation and all the internet traffic is through a websense proxy. The case is most of the time the connection to this websense proxy from Linux machines times out, but windows machines works fine. Has anyone come across such an issue, or what can be the root cause of this problem? Any help is greatly appreciated.
[11:46] <bazhang> ranjan, is this debian?
[11:46] <ranjan> bazhang, not its Ubuntu 10.04 and CentOS 6.2
[11:46] <ranjan> bazhang, there are around 200 Machines
[11:51] <ranjan> bazhang, have you come across such an issue in debian? it may apply to Ubuntu also
[11:52] <yvesD> afaik 10.04 does not get updates anymore.
[11:52] <bazhang> yvesD, sure it does. check the topic here
[11:53] <andybrine> morning everyone
[11:53] <DJones> yvesD: 10.04's EOL is April 2013
[11:53] <andybrine> does anyone know a similar application to tunnelbear but for ubuntu
[11:53] <yvesD> sorry, april 2013, yes it gets updates
[11:54] <andybrine> i want to be able to acess us sites here in the uk
[11:55] <bazhang> http://alternativeto.net/software/tunnelbear/    andybrine have a look
[11:57] <andybrine> thanks bazhang for the link
[11:57] <andybrine> was looking at this a mi ago
[12:03] <Mrokii> Is there a way to make that retarded Update Manager *not* close just because there are some index files it can't find or some keys are missing?
[12:04] <gic> looking for a lightweight utility that will let me know how long the screen has been locked. basically want to figure out how long have i been on break
[12:05] <KM0201> gic: screensaver with a counter?
[12:06] <gic> KM0201, exactly :) xlock does that but its ugly :(
[12:06] <gic> i have used "time read" before
[12:06] <KM0201> hmm
[12:06] <gic> but i need something more automatic
[12:07] <KM0201> i have no idea.
[12:07] <gic> KM0201, no issues :)
[12:09] <Mrokii> Doesn't anybody have a clue about that strange small popup that sometimes shows when doubleclicking (marking) URL in the address bar of Firefox for example? It's pretty annoying as the options are pretty much useless to me and also breaks my workflow, meaning I have to do an extra click to get rid of the popup menu before I am amble to actually hit Ctrl+C to copy a URL.
[12:10] <bazhang> Mrokii, yes. there is an arrow that leads to a menu saying, dont ask again
[12:10] <Mrokii> bazhang: Hm, okay. Didn't notice that yet, but I will look. Thanks.
[12:11] <lujy> Hello?
[12:12] <lujy> Any one ?
[12:12] <kierxn> Hello?
[12:12] <bazhang> lujy, ubuntu support question?
[12:12] <Mrokii> bazhang: I have no clue what you're talking about, honestly. Was that a remark about me asking the question once more or an actual answer? If so, I don't see anything like what you described.
[12:13] <lujy> Why I cannot find other channel?
[12:13] <KM0201> what other channel?
[12:13] <bazhang> Mrokii, a small popup window that appears in the address bar of Firefox? I thought that was your issue
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> lujy  type /msg alis list *blah* to find a channel
[12:13] <lujy> Any ubuntu 12.04 user?
[12:14] <bazhang> lujy, yes of course
[12:15] <lujy> I am using gnome3
[12:15] <lujy> but I have a problem
[12:15] <Guest62018> blehhh ubuntu 12.10 is soooo alien to me
[12:15] <Mrokii> bazhang: Yes, but not only in Firefox. And it has four options, Open in Mozilla, Open in Firefox, Open in Opera (I think) and something else I forgot. That's all. Strange thing is it doesn't always appear and I don't know how to either disable it or change the (for me) useless options.
[12:15] <yvesD> !nettiquette
[12:15] <lujy> Can gnome3 search like Unity dash?
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> Guest62018  it means you're learning something new
[12:15] <KM0201> ..
[12:15] <Cuacrzz> Does anyone know how to change metric settings on my l2tp vpn settings like that checkbox on Windows, because i'm connected and it works but all pages are blocked right know
[12:16] <Guest62018> well 1 thing for sure the xchat-indicator dosent work right in 12.10
[12:16] <bazhang> Mrokii, that sounds somewhat different on second listening as you have further clarified
[12:16] <bazhang> Guest62018, it works perfectly here
[12:17] <yvesD> Guest62018: you are able to flee from unity for example for xfce. also check "things to do first after 12.10 install" for removing of shopping lens and so on
[12:17] <bazhang> Guest62018, perhaps you have misconfigured it
[12:17] <lujy> Any chinese channel?
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[12:17] <bazhang> !adlens | yvesD
[12:17] <Guest62018> yeah well when i minamize to tray and then try to maximize it start a whole new xchat for me
[12:17] <Mrokii> bazhang: Sorry for not explaining it properly. I just don't get where this is coming from, but as it's not only FX where it appeard (Thunderbird and Chrome as well) I assume it must be some Ubuntu-thing.
[12:18] <Guest62018> and yes the other one is still running in here
[12:18] <Guest62018> <------Evil_Eric
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> Guest62018  type /nick Evil_Eric
[12:19] <plusEV> hi. im running ubuntu 12.10 quantal 64-bit. I got 4gb installed ram. but system monitor in linux onlyvsees 2,9gb ram. why is that?
[12:19] <Guest62018> well i know the command dustmonkey i just havent ghosted my nick yet
[12:20] <lujy> how to remove gnome3 calendar
[12:20] <ewook> plusEV: Is it a laptop or a workstation with graphic card that shares ram?
[12:21] <yvesD> plusEV: shure you are running 64 bit? run "uname -a" in shell. also graphic card can share ram in laptops for example
[12:21] <Evil_Eric> bless
[12:21] <Evil_Eric> bbl 12.10 ='s fail on many levels
[12:21] <tuxtoti> hello. I have got 4 usb ports but only 1 of is working. dmesg isn't giving any output when i plugin a usb any of those 3.
[12:22] <tuxtoti> I have got the lsusb output here: http://pastebin.com/mccdna89
[12:22] <tuxtoti> Any clues?
[12:22] <Cuacrzz> Does anyone know how to change metric settings on my l2tp vpn settings like that checkbox on Windows, because i'm connected and it works but all pages are blocked right know
[12:23] <plusEV> it says x86_64 After running the command
[12:23] <keyur> Hi
[12:23] <keyur> Please help me friends :(
[12:23] <keyur> I m having some issues with ssh
[12:23] <keyur> anyone their who can help me ?
[12:24] <iceroot> !details | keyur
[12:24] <keyur> See I want to create ssh rsa public key
[12:24] <iceroot> plusEV: what is the output of "free -m"
[12:24] <keyur> Ok :D
[12:24] <keyur>  but when i see my public key
[12:24] <keyur> in end
[12:24] <keyur> it says
[12:24] <iceroot> !enter | keyur
[12:25] <iceroot> keyur: please use one line to post a detailed questions
[12:25] <iceroot> -s
[12:25] <keyur> ok :D
[12:26] <Rexter> Goodmorning, what is Floodbot?
[12:26] <keyur> I want to setup ssh rsa public key ! so after generating when i open the pub key in ending it shows like andro-development@keyur-Inspiron-N4010  i don't want this " keyur-Inspiron-N4010  " can you tell me how to make public key without this ?
[12:26] <keyur> Please help :(
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> keyur  isnt that the identifier of your pc?
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> keyur  keep it in the channel please
[12:28] <keyur> bro cold you come on private talk @MonkeyDust
[12:29] <keyur> please
[12:29] <keyur> it is bit personal
[12:29] <Cuacrzz> Does anyone know how to change metric settings on my l2tp vpn settings like that checkbox on Windows, because i'm connected and it works but all pages are blocked right know
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> !pm | keyur
[12:31] <keyur> Ok MonkeyDust: Bro The thing is i want to connect to one ssh server that server is based on rsa public key  and im not authorised to use that server but one of my friend is authorised so he said give me your public key so i can give that to admin
[12:31] <keyur> so if admin finds out my name he will not give access so i just want to remove this "keyur-Inspiron-N4010"
[12:33] <keyur> @MonkeyDust Got me bro ?
[12:33] <dr0p> hello, has anyone faced the issue with xrandr -> after setting the highest available resolution on LVDS1 (laptop) i get blank screen?
[12:34] <llutz> keyur: just remove the comment from the pub.key
[12:34] <keyur> @llutz it will not create any problem :O
[12:35] <keyur> that maybe it will mismatch with private key ?
[12:35] <kloes> Is is possible to have gui without Xorg?
[12:36] <kloes> I think it is not
[12:36] <kloes> but just to make sure
[12:36] <OerHeks> llutz, do we help hacking public keys to provide unautorized access ?
[12:37] <keyur> @OerHeks  Is it hacking o.O i don't think so ?
[12:37] <llutz> keyur: its highly illegal
[12:38] <OerHeks> keyur, " im not authorised to use that server but one of my friend is authorised "
[12:38] <keyur> hmmmmmm ! my friend want to give me access so ...
[12:38] <llutz> keyur: well, you friend is an idiot and now stop that topic please
[12:38] <Guest90940> apa
[12:39] <llutz> your*
[12:39] <gsommer> Under Ubuntu, how are applications notified about screen resolution change ?
[12:39] <keyur> please :( reply to my  question
[12:39] <OerHeks> keyur, this is not an ubuntu issue, go find a hacking channel, we do not support this.
[12:40] <OerHeks> kloes a gui needs X, so you thinking is right.
[12:40] <vivid> is anyone else having an issue with global menus in 12.10?  they are only working for firefox and thunderbird for me
[12:40] <keyur> ok :P
[12:41] <kernsprog> any experts on urban terror game?
[12:42] <MoL0ToV> someone can help me with a usb webcam? http://pastebin.ca/2252738
[12:44] <auronandace> keyur: wayland can be used as a xorg replacement (still experimental though)
[12:47] <cnf> anyone know a good email notifier for kde? and i don't mean a full client, as i use the web client
[12:48] <gsommer> Under Xorg, how are applications notified about screen resolution changes ?
[12:52] <kloes> OerHeks
[12:52] <kloes> OerHeks
[12:52] <auronandace> kloes: wayland can be used as a xorg replacement (still experimental though)
[12:53] <OerHeks> gsommer, XRRQueryExtension, see first answer  > http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.xorg/month=20110401
[12:53] <yvesD> Rexter: floodbot prevents users in irc to flood the irc-channel with posts. instead you should post all of your text in one post. so be careful to use enter in irc. just type all you have to say and then press enter ONE TIME
[12:53] <OerHeks> kloes ?
[12:54] <yvesD> lol wayland comes in 1 month. (since 2 years now)
[12:54] <joar> I'm having issues with nvidia drivers on 12.10
[12:56] <joar> This is my Xorg.0.log: https://gist.github.com/21beab517334c88ec828
[12:56] <plusEV> hi. im running ubuntu 12,10 desktop amd64 on my lenovo t60. the system has 4gb of installed ram according to my bios, but system monitor in linux only shows 2,9gb. why is that?
[12:56] <yvesD> joar: more info please. post xorg.0.log on nopaste (e.g. http://nopaste.info/) and the spec graphic chip
[12:56] <auronandace> plusEV: you running 32bit
[12:56] <joar> yvesD: https://gist.github.com/21beab517334c88ec828
[12:57] <plusEV> srsly?
[12:57] <OerHeks> plusEV, maybe your videocard uses ram for a shadow copy, or your onbord videocard uses that ram.
[12:58] <joar> auronandace: plusEV: I believe the 32bit max is 3.9G
[12:59] <plusEV> 128mb ATI Radeon x1400 is the video card. how do i figure out if the card takes my mem?
[12:59] <plusEV> ram even
[13:00] <arnsa> Hello, is there a package for ubuntu like this one? https://www.archlinux.org/groups/i686/gnome-extra/
[13:00] <auronandace> plusEV: what does uname -a say?
[13:01] <auronandace> !find gnome-extra
[13:01] <sevoxx> !find erection
[13:01] <arnsa> auronandace, as you can see only gnome-extra-icons :| Maybe it's called soemthing else?
[13:01] <yvesD> plusEV: have you tried dash-additional drivers?
[13:01] <yvesD> *dash->
[13:01] <sevoxx> !find !find
[13:01] <arnsa> !find pkgbuild
[13:02] <arnsa> What's el-get?
[13:02] <plusEV> auronandace: x86_64
[13:02] <auronandace> !msgthebot | sevoxx
[13:02] <auronandace> plusEV: ok, i used to have a t60 but mine was only 32bit
[13:03] <sevoxx> !msgthebot | auronandace
[13:03] <plusEV> i went into cpu-z in windows pre linux install. said 64bit there.
[13:04] <arnsa> What's el-get?
[13:04] <auronandace> !info el-get | arnsa
[13:04] <sevoxx> !find jdk-1.7
[13:04] <sevoxx> !find jdk
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:05] <sevoxx> !info openjdk-7-dbg
[13:05] <mweijts> i have problems to set Firefox and Thunderbird in a other language, I installed the firefox-local-nl and Thunderbird-local-nl (quantal), in FF and TB is see the language pack in the add-ons, but everthing keeps English
[13:06] <plusEV> it is 64bit. blah this is bad...
[13:06] <plusEV> what is wrong?
[13:07] <auronandace> plusEV: pastebin sudo lshw
[13:07] <Evil_Eric> ahhh home sweet 12.04
[13:07] <yvesD> mweijts: have you restarted? have you gone to dash->languages?
[13:08] <lujy> How to search for documents like in unity in gnome3
[13:08] <yvesD> plusEV: look for the program "additional drivers" in your dash
[13:08] <tumadre> hey
[13:08] <lujy> ?
[13:09] <arnsa> !find mojo
[13:09] <tumadre> ¿follamos?
[13:09] <Evil_Eric> yay no more xchat-indicator issues
[13:09] <mweijts> No i'am using Kubuntu and have also installed ubuntu-desktop
[13:09] <tumadre> ¿Quién quiere  follar?
[13:09] <lujy> how about gnome3
[13:09] <tumadre> In Spanish please
[13:09] <auronandace> !es | tumadre
[13:09] <DJones> !es | tumadre
[13:09] <tumadre> callate¡
[13:09] <lujy> my god
[13:10] <tumadre> hifpdsofhg
[13:10] <tumadre> tii
[13:10] <mweijts> yvesD:  No i'am using Kubuntu and have also installed ubuntu-desktop
[13:10] <arnsa> Could anyone tell me how can I install Avadon: The Black Fortress game from Humble Bundle? It says I need Mojo Installer, but idk where could I get it.
[13:10] <tumadre> kfjgofshg
[13:11] <arnsa> Please, anyone?
[13:11] <vivid> arnsa, you may want to ask the humble bundle support about that
[13:12] <plusEV> yvesd: no such thing in my dash.
[13:12] <arnsa> vivid, I tried, but whenever I write them an email, I got back an email from google that my letter went to the spam folder. Idk wtf is wrong...
[13:13] <yvesD> plusEV: must be on 12.10
[13:13] <vivid> arnsa, go to http://humblebundle.com/  and click on the Support link on the top right
[13:13] <arnsa> vivid,  there's no information on how to install that game.
[13:13] <subha> Hi, I am new to Ubuntu, recently I installed Ubuntu on my Mac and need some help for wifi, is this the right place to ask/
[13:13] <seednode> Yes, it is.
[13:13] <subha> ?
[13:14] <seednode> Just ask the question.
[13:14] <subha> thanks, i can access internet using a LAN cable
[13:14] <subha> but cant use WIFI
[13:14] <auronandace> !bcm | subha
[13:14] <seednode> Do you know the driver is Broadcom, auronandace ?
[13:14] <seednode> Just to make sure.
[13:14] <subha> dont know, can I check?
[13:15] <auronandace> seednode: its a decent guess, he's on a mac
[13:15] <auronandace> subha: lspci
[13:15] <plusEV> yvesD: found it. now what?
[13:15] <seednode> Ah. I wasn't aware of that.
[13:15] <seednode> Oh, wait.
[13:15] <seednode> Sorry, just woke up. Can't read :P
[13:15] <subha> ok, let me go through  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx and ask you guys again if I fail to do it properly
[13:15] <subha> Thanks a lot
[13:16] <seednode> Yep.
[13:16] <auronandace> subha: lspci will tell you if it is broadcom wifi
[13:16] <yvesD> plusEV: click it and let it search
[13:17] <seednode> I remember on my first install I used a Belkin USB NIC, and I had to install drivers with ndiswrapper.
[13:17] <subha> Do I need to remove the lan cable to enable it?
[13:18] <arnsa> How can I contact Humble Bundle live?
[13:18] <seednode> I'm not sure; I don't think you do, but I can't guarantee.
[13:18] <plusEV> yvesD: doing it, but what do i do when my foit falls a sleep? :)
[13:18] <seednode> arnsa: What do you mean?
[13:18] <plusEV> foot
[13:19] <arnsa> seednode, do they have an irc channel or smthng?
[13:19] <yvesD> plusEV: hack it off
[13:19] <plusEV> * facepalm*
[13:21] <Cuacrzz> i need to enter a shared  folder with my network, there's a way to do it with \\?
[13:21] <yvesD> plusEV: if it finds available drivers. try to stay with the free one. it tells you in the brackets after the driver description
[13:22] <yvesD> plusEV: "version current"
[13:23] <nibbler> Cuacrzz: smb://host/share
[13:23] <plusEV> yvesD: no proprietary drivers are in use on this system.
[13:24] <subha> how do i install https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/b43-fwcutter/1:015-14?
[13:24] <subha> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/b43-fwcutter/1:015-14 *
[13:24] <auronandace> plusEV: your ati card is too old for the proprietary drivers
[13:24] <ms_> hi people!!! :)
[13:26] <plusEV> auronandace: i dont worro about the card. i just want my 4gb ram to be active. not 2,9gb.
[13:26] <plusEV> worry even
[13:26] <auronandace> plusEV: what does sudo lshw say (in a pastebin please)
[13:26] <yvesD> plusEV: sorry i mixted you up with someone asking for help with graphic
[13:27] <plusEV> pastebin?
[13:27] <plusEV> ok
[13:27] <auronandace> !paste | plusEV
[13:27] <ms_> I've been in a folder00 and I went to folder01 and to folder02, and so on. I want to know how to do previous through shell, but not "cd .." hein!!!
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> ms_  better ask in #bash
[13:27] <dyd> i need to get some parameters from a udev event (usb insertion) that triggers a bash script. I managed to find that $ID_VENDOR has the value of ATTRS{vendor}, now i need to know how i can get the values of ATTRS{model}, ATTRS{idVendor}, ATTRS{idProduct}, ATTRS{bcdDevice}, ATTRS{serial}. Anyone knows how i can get them in my bash script?
[13:27] <plusEV> im on irc on my phone.... pastebin wont happen. :)
[13:28] <auronandace> plusEV: your t60 has no net connection?
[13:28] <plusEV> i guess i will just try another distro
[13:28] <ms_> MonkeyDust, thanks :)
[13:29] <plusEV> yea it has but ok... ill get weechat on it
[13:29] <edve> hi everyone i'm having a DCOM error of communication on my Ubuntu 12.10 and my Windows server 2008 how can i correct that ?
[13:30] <Cuacrzz> thanks nibbler
[13:31] <nibbler> Cuacrzz: welcome
[13:33] <plusEV> im behind firewall or something. doing this when home. cya later.
[13:34] <nibbler> 32bit linux supports way more than 4GB RAM, as address width was increased to 48bit (iirc) long before 64bit cpus were mainstream. "large mem support" its called in linux i believe
[13:35] <auronandace> !pae | nibbler
[13:35] <nibbler> auronandace: ah right, was just in reply to plusEVs questions before
[13:36] <auronandace> nibbler: still, even with pae applications can't use more than 4 gb
[13:36] <nibbler> per application not, but system memory would be >4GB
[13:36] <auronandace> yes
[13:36] <nibbler> which was the complaint of plusEV
[13:37] <auronandace> he said he was using 64bit
[13:37] <nibbler> oh, overread that then....
[13:37] <auronandace> he didn't give me the output of a command so that i could verify it
[13:50] <Xeli> hello, I've got some problems with wpa2. There seems to be a fix added to precise proposed (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpasupplicant/+bug/969343/comments/96) but how do I install it? apt-get install wpasupplicant/precise-proposed doesn't work
[13:51] <auronandace> Xeli: either wait till its released normally or enable the proposed repos
[13:53] <Xeli> auronandace: I have added the proposed repo's to my /etc/apt/sources.d, as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed
[13:53] <auronandace> Xeli: then just: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:54] <Vi> hi
[13:54] <Vi> #php
[13:55] <Xeli> auronandace: When I run apt-get update I can see precise-proposed being 'hit', but dist-upgrade does nothing
[13:56] <auronandace> Xeli: is that fix in your mirrors yet?
[13:56] <Vi> strange, /join #php doesnt seem to work. i can join other channels?
[13:56] <thanasakos> hello guys
[13:57] <auronandace> !register | Vi
[13:57] <drag0nius> what edition of ubuntu has lowest hardware requirements?
[13:57] <Xeli> auronandace: mm that might be it, how can I check what mirror I am using?
[13:57] <noobatlife> Hello?
[13:57] <Vi> ah i see -_- new to using this gnome xchat application
[13:58] <thanasakos> hello
[13:58] <noobatlife> Is it possible to install windows 7 inside ubuntu 12.04?
[13:58] <noobatlife> I want to dual boot
[13:58] <drag0nius> yes
[13:58] <auronandace> !lubuntu | drag0nius
[13:58] <drag0nius> but would be easier to first install windows then linux
[13:58] <Butcho> anyone have a xorg.conf for a nvidia GTX470 and a Apple Cinema Display 30"? I'm having problems getting full resolution.
[13:58] <noobatlife> I dont have that option
[13:58] <thanasakos> need help about linux(terminal)
[13:58] <drag0nius> if you install Win7 after ubuntu you'll need ubuntu live boot to fix grub
[13:59] <drag0nius> because windows install overrides any boot managers
[13:59] <noobatlife> ok
[13:59] <noobatlife> thank you for this information
[13:59] <auronandace> noobatlife: inside ubuntu? as in a vm?
[13:59] <thanasakos> drag0nius
[13:59] <noobatlife> no
[13:59] <drag0nius> so basically: Install Ubuntu -> Install Windows 7 -> put live USB in -> fix Grub
[13:59] <thanasakos> can u hel[ me?
[13:59] <thanasakos> dragon..
[13:59] <noobatlife> as in installed
[13:59] <noobatlife> on the hard disk
[14:00] <noobatlife> Ok
[14:00] <auronandace> noobatlife: you can't do that from INSIDE ubuntu
[14:00] <Xeli> auronandace: ah no, I made a /etc/apt/preferences file which only allows explicit installs of the proposed repo, I've removed it now but dist-upgrade will install a lot of packages, can I choose to install wpasupplicant?
[14:00] <drag0nius> thanasakos what u need?
[14:00] <noobatlife> oh]
[14:00] <auronandace> Xeli: no idea sorry, i keep only the normal repos
[14:01] <auronandace> noobatlife: you'd need a win7 disk to boot from
[14:01] <drag0nius> auronandace what?
[14:01] <Xeli> auronandace: alright, thanks for the tips tho
[14:01] <thanasakos> dragon
[14:01] <drag0nius> you can make separate partition to install win7 on
[14:02] <thanasakos> help with terminal
[14:02] <drag0nius> yeah but what with it
[14:02] <thanasakos> or what need to install
[14:02] <noobatlife> yes
[14:02] <noobatlife> That was what i wanted to do
[14:02] <thanasakos> i am new
[14:02] <noobatlife> I wanted to install windows on a partition
[14:02] <noobatlife> of the same hard disk that ubuntu is on
[14:02] <drag0nius> just make partition and install :P
[14:02] <drag0nius> then boot from ubuntu live usb and repair grub
[14:02] <drag0nius> and will be fine
[14:03] <thanasakos> ii want to tell me something to do for learn use linux
[14:03] <noobatlife> Ok
[14:03] <Junior_> suddenly I can´t connect ubuntu by ssh using putty, what's wrong??
[14:04] <llutz> Junior_: the error is?
[14:04] <drag0nius> thanasakos just google "linux basics"
[14:04] <Junior_> the putty windows is closed when write password
[14:04] <auronandace> !terminal | thanasakos
[14:04] <auronandace> !google | drag0nius
[14:05] <auronandace> thanasakos: #bash may be more help
[14:05] <Junior_> bash from win7 I gues it is not possible
[14:06] <Pici> Junior_: What? If you mean running Putty in Windows 7, I'm using it right now.
[14:07] <llutz> Junior_: you mighgt ask in some win-channels, but doesn't putty have an option not to close the window or some logging features?
[14:07] <Junior_> nop
[14:07] <Junior_> ubuntu is not logging
[14:08] <Junior_> logs on some days doesn't appear
[14:08] <learner> Hello
[14:08] <Junior_> is like a attack but i'm not sure
[14:09] <Junior_> additional I can´t connect trhough ssh
[14:09] <Junior_> is so crazy
[14:09] <Junior_> any idea
[14:09] <Junior_> ?
[14:09] <FloodBot1> Junior_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:09] <llutz> Junior_: the error is?
[14:09] <Junior_> sorry
[14:10] <Junior_> I can´t get errors because the system is not writing log files
[14:11] <llutz> Junior_: so how do you expect to get any help then? get another ssh-client and hope its more verbose on errors (cygwin)
[14:12] <Junior_> should be any idea around the trouble
[14:12] <Junior_> I guess
[14:13] <Butcho> how can I tell which drive X is using? should be using nvidia but nvidia-settings is telling me it's not running
[14:13] <Junior_> ubuntu has a limit to user conections by ssh?
[14:14] <Butcho> Junior_, can you telnet to port 22
[14:14] <Pici> Junior_: Is Ubuntu not logging or is Windows not logging. You're being somewhat vauge.
[14:15] <Junior_> ubuntu is not logging
[14:15] <Pici> Junior_: Are you out of diskspace?
[14:15] <Junior_> nop
[14:16] <auronandace> Butcho: lsmod
[14:16] <Junior_> there are space on disk
[14:16] <Pici> Junior_: Which log are you looking at?
[14:17] <Junior_> i saw messages.1
[14:18] <Junior_> but some days there aren't logs
[14:18] <Junior_> so crazy
[14:19] <tuxtoti> hello again. i think my message went unnoticed. so 3 of the 4 usb ports aren't working. got some data here: http://pastebin.com/mccdna89 . any help ?
[14:20] <Junior_> Pici: I saw messages.1
[14:20] <nibbler> tuxtoti: i think the output of dmesg might be more itneresting, after plugging a usb device
[14:20] <Pici> Junior_: try /var/log/auth.log
[14:21] <tuxtoti> nibbler: oh yeah . just forgot to tell. no dmesg output for the 3 nonworking ports.
[14:22] <nibbler> tuxtoti: no idea then, sorry
[14:22] <tuxtoti> any channels around here were just hardware/kernel people lurk around ?
[14:23] <Junior_> Pici: I had to restart system phisicaly so /var/log/auth.log has log from system was rebooted
[14:23] <Junior_> Pici: I lost logs before when something was wrong
[14:25] <vrajesh> I have a problem with current version of kernel in Ubuntu 12.10. It freezes at boot-time. This never happened in previous version of kernel or Ubuntu.
[14:25] <auronandace> tuxtoti: ##linux or ##hardware
[14:25] <vrajesh> I have core i5 450m CPU and ATI 5470 GPU
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> vrajesh  what's the outcome of uname -r ?
[14:29] <vrajesh> It won't boot. So, I can't tell that. But I have downloaded the iso recently.
[14:30] <vrajesh> MonkeyDust: ^.
[14:30] <yvesD> vrajesh: do you have access to /var/log/ ? to look for logfiles?
[14:31] <Thiagovfar> Can I change the way lightdm runs the X server? Like passing -nocursor to it?
[14:31] <vrajesh> yvesD: Actually the thing is, It won't install, it won't boot from removable media..
[14:32] <yvesD> vrajesh: totally different matter
[14:32] <yvesD> vrajesh: you boot from usb?
[14:32] <vrajesh> yvesD: Yes, what I can say for sure is the problem is with kernel only.
[14:33] <yvesD> vrajesh: why?
[14:33] <vrajesh> It gets stuck at kernel load time...
[14:33] <yvesD> vrajesh: how did you install onto usb? unetbootin?
[14:33] <vrajesh> Yeah!
[14:33] <vrajesh> And it works on other machines..
[14:34] <yvesD> vrajesh: what did you choose after unetbootin-prompt? default?
[14:34] <Butcho> I can't seem to modpobe nvidia .. gives me Module nvidia_current not found/
[14:34] <auronandace> Butcho: surely the module is just nvidia (not nvidia_current)
[14:34] <jwrigley> whoami
[14:35] <yvesD> $wrigley
[14:35] <vrajesh> yvesD: Yes. I tried all options, Default, install etc.. Plus I tried installing it via wubi.. Same result. Checked the ISO hash, it seems to be okay..
[14:35] <Butcho> auronandace: did it both ways. nvidia doesnt seem to want to run
[14:35] <jwrigley> yvesD: thx, wasn't sure for a moment :)
[14:36] <yvesD> jwrigley: ;)
[14:36] <Butcho> nouveau driver works great
[14:36] <yvesD> vrajesh: i had similar, then took text install and worked
[14:37] <vrajesh> yvesD: Oh! Let me try that... Will be right back.. Thanks.
[14:37] <yvesD> vrajesh: wait
[14:37] <vrajesh> yvesD: Okay,
[14:37] <yvesD> vrajesh: what is the iso you loaded? debian-live-6.0.5-amd64-gnome-desktop.iso ?
[14:38] <georgeph> whats up with gnome-media-player...it got bad reviews and doesn't work here either
[14:38] <vrajesh> yvesD: ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[14:38] <georgeph> also blender is broken and supertuxkart is broken as well
[14:38] <yvesD> vrajesh: ah ok, sorry wrong channel
[14:39] <vrajesh> yvesD: What?
[14:39] <caiyue> hello
[14:39] <georgeph> how can ubuntu support anything with so much stuff that is totally broken
[14:39] <vrajesh> yvesD: Oh!
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> georgeph  no rants here, please
[14:40] <yvesD> vrajesh: maybe you want to try out alternate.iso
[14:40] <Pici> There is no alternate as of 12.10.
[14:40] <yvesD> right
[14:40] <georgeph> MonkeyDust...not a rant...just a report of facts with broken software...linux keeps breaking everything
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> georgeph  then report it somewhere, this is the support channel
[14:41] <yvesD> *detects predujice
[14:41] <georgeph> MonkeyDust...well nice to know there is a support channel but how do they expect to support the broken packages
[14:42] <vrajesh> yvesD: I will try the text installer, and be back later...
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> georgeph  better start from the beginning, what were you doing and when did things go wrong
[14:43] <AlanBell> georgeph: blender installs and runs for me, gnome-media-player segfaults, supertuxcart installs and runs
[14:44] <BehindPenguin> hello
[14:44] <georgeph> Monkey well i finally found a way to change the default drivers in x...so i got glxgears running on the ati...so then i decided to see if supertuxkart would work...it did until i installed restricted stuff...which took out the avcodec libs...and supertuxkart quit working
[14:44] <simplew> my mouse stops working sometimes, is there any problem related to this?
[14:44] <yvesD> simplew: what mouse? wireless?
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> georgeph  sounds like a ATI problem, then
[14:45] <eric_> ok maybe xchat and no indicator
[14:45] <simplew> yvesD: no, usb mouse
[14:45] <georgeph> MonkeyDust...well could be..it is just hard to tell
[14:45] <eric_> bbl
[14:45] <yvesD> simplew: so its cable? does lsusb tell it is connected?
[14:46] <georgeph> MonkeyDust ...at least some games do work like the 3d psemu stuff like final fantasy and legend of dragoon
[14:46] <simplew> yvesD: it does
[14:46] <AlanBell> georgeph: bug #830569 indicates that gnome-media-player is abandoned upstream and will probably be removed
[14:46] <BehindPenguin> is Intel® Ironlake Mobile x86/MMX/SSE2  support to run FlightGear ?
[14:46] <simplew> yvesD: it does not, sorry
[14:46] <yvesD> simplew: here you go
[14:46] <georgeph> MonkeyDust...but losing supertuxkart was a real loss just like blender
[14:46] <simplew> yvesD: here i go on what?
[14:47] <yvesD> simplew: if it is not connected, it cannot work
[14:47] <AlanBell> the others look like faults with your configuration rather than things Ubuntu has messed up the packaging of. You can report it with ubuntu-bug blender if you want
[14:47] <georgeph> MonkeyDust especially since blender is getting some elementary sterioscopic rendering
[14:47] <simplew> yvesD: but the cable is connected
[14:47] <yvesD> simplew: shure. but something is wrong with the connection, otherwise lsusb would show it
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> georgeph  don't forget to read useful posts that are adressed to you
[14:48] <georgeph> Alan...how do you report to ubuntu-bug blender
[14:48] <riqdiiz> What is the equivalent of .bat extension in ubuntu?
[14:48] <georgeph> Alan...some people would like to use free stereoscopic rendering
[14:48] <simplew> yvesD: of course, thats why im asking about it
[14:49] <llutz> riqdiiz: a shellscript
[14:49] <simplew> yvesD: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1072519
[14:49] <riqdiiz> Yes
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> riqdiiz  i use a small custom script without extension
[14:50] <llutz> riqdiiz: names/extension do say nothing about a file. a script can be named as anything. just make sure to use a correct shebang and make the script executable
[14:51] <dildo> tes
[14:51] <BehindPenguin> asd
[14:52] <georgeph> Alan..i am fairly certain the blender failure is x related ...it seems to be a color issue
[14:53] <georgeph> Alan...but some people would like to freely develop stereoscopic rendered stuff with free bullet physics for 3d vision games
[14:54] <georgeph> Alan...and supertuxkart was making some elementary progress with bullet physics
[14:55] <georgeph> Alan...although not stereoscopic rendered frames
[14:55] <georgeph> Alan...yet
[14:56] <riqdiiz> llutz: how do you make a script executable?
[14:56] <llutz> riqdiiz: chmod +x file
[14:56] <arabi> i dont want to dispaly " myname@computername " in terminal... i just wanna display $ instead of that anyone can help????
[14:56] <riqdiiz> In ubuntu?
[14:57] <llutz> riqdiiz: in any linux/unix
[14:57] <Virunga> Do you know how to jump at the end of a file with Vi?
[14:58] <llutz> arabi: export PS1="\$"   in your ~/.profile
[14:58] <Pumpkin-_> Virunga: upper case G
[14:59] <arabi> llutz where i want to type it
[14:59] <riqdiiz> llutz: syntax for file x
[14:59] <georgeph> quakeguy...what a name ...are you working on a free openarena
[14:59] <Virunga> Pumpkin-_: thanks you!!
[14:59] <Virunga> thank*
[15:01] <arabi> llutz I didnt get you
[15:01] <arabi> pls help
[15:01] <yvesD> simplew: what does lsusb say, when the mouse works?
[15:02] <arabi> i dont want to dispaly " myname@computername " in terminal... i just wanna display $ instead of that anyone can help????
[15:04] <Pumpkin-_> arabi: llutz answered the question. You need to play with your PS1 variable (which controls your prompt).
[15:07] <sumanth> how to install intel grahics driver  in ubuntu
[15:07] <sumanth> how to install intel grahics driver  in ubuntu
[15:08] <georgeph> sumanth...man that stuff is extremely difficult...it took many days to just install an old ati driver
[15:08] <sumanth> geogreph, tell me how to install
[15:09] <georgeph> sumanth...well manually remove all the x libs and binaries...and build the xfree tarballs from scratch
[15:09] <sumanth> geogreph, next
[15:09] <georgeph> sumanth...then it will build the right directories....and have some configuration tools and configuation files
[15:10] <sumanth> geogreph, what are the configuration tools and configuation files
[15:10] <riqdiiz> llutz: I thought chmod +x only changes permissions.
[15:11] <llutz> riqdiiz: read "man chmod"
[15:11] <georgeph> sumanth..xf86config....and the .conf file in /etc/X11...so the old drivers can talk to it and modify it properly
[15:11] <sumanth> geogreph, there is no x11 conf
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> riqdiiz  permission to execute, that is correct
[15:12] <georgeph> sumanth...yes there is and the atidriver.sh modifies it properly
[15:13] <georgeph> sumanth but the real problem is broken blender and broken supertuxkart
[15:13] <Helio> Does anybody here have any idea where I could talk to mtron (the optimus guy) i need some help from him.
[15:13] <pringlescan> Hello all, I'm trying to install Apache 2 on Ubuntu 12.04 and I get unmet dependencies. I've run all the standard apt-get commands (auto-remove, purge, update, upgrade, install -f) and I still cannot install Apache2. Any suggestions? I googled it...
[15:13] <sumanth> georgeph, there is any ppa
[15:14] <georgeph> sumanth...i dont' know about ppa stuff...that kind of packaging stuff i am not familiar with
[15:14] <georgeph> sumanth...i can barely work with tarballs and debs
[15:14] <Pici> pringlescan: can you pastebin the exact messages you're getting?
[15:15] <sumanth> georgeph, can you tell  me how to install with deb package
[15:15] <georgeph> sumanth....well no guarantees for cross os stuff...but you can try dpkg -i filename.deb
[15:15] <georgeph> sumanth...sometimes it works
[15:16] <pringlescan> Pici: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1372611/
[15:16] <georgeph> sumanth...but get the right debian files for your processor
[15:16] <aristidesfl> hi
[15:16] <sumanth> georgeph, where can i find deb packages for intell hd graphics
[15:17] <georgeph> sumanth...oh i don't know..you would have to call intel and ask them about their hardware support
[15:17] <pringlescan> I'm using precise in my sources.list I didn't change anything in there from vanilla Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[15:17] <llutz> georgeph: please be helpful or stop your nonsense comments
[15:17] <llutz> sumanth: what intel-chipset?
[15:17] <sumanth> georgeph.., thanks dude
[15:18] <aristidesfl> I've replaced the motherboard of my server, but now the network interface doesn't appear in ifconfig and it takes a while to boot with the message "Waiting for network configuration"
[15:18] <aristidesfl> what should I do?
[15:18] <georgeph> llutz...it is not nonsense..just facts
[15:18] <Boreeas> pm-hibernate exits without error message, what can I do?
[15:19] <pringlescan> Pici: it installed it as apache2.2 somehow even though I used apt-get install apache2 to install it, i could not run apt-get remove apache2 to remove it
[15:19] <pringlescan> that seems like a bug to me
[15:20] <Pici> pringlescan: What does apt-cache policy apache2-mpm-prefork say?
[15:20] <BehindPenguin> test
[15:22] <pringlescan> Installed: (none). Candidate: 2.2.22-1ubuntu1 Version Table: 2.2.22-1ubuntu1 and then it lists where the packages are coming from
[15:23] <pringlescan> pici: i got it working, but I see a bunch of people having this issue in google, so it's rather odd, none of the solutions worked for me, I did have apache2.2 installed but I purged that, not sure how it got installed
[15:25] <Pici> pringlescan: If you have precise-security and precise-updates enabled you shouldn't be having this issue.  I have both enabled here and I see the proper package versions fine (and apache is installed and working)
[15:27] <sdasda> hi! is there any similar program for ubuntu like the "rawcopy"?
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> sdasda  what does it do?
[15:28] <Pumpkin-_> sdasda: don't know what rawcopy is, but it sounds a lot like what "dd" does. Check the manpage / google it and see if it what you need.
[15:28] <v0lksman> anyone know how to create a swap partition in fdisk?  this version doesn't seem to let me!
[15:28] <sdasda> HDD Raw Copy Tool is a utility for low-level, sector-by-sector hard disk duplication and image creation.
[15:29] <llutz> v0lksman: create a new partition (n), set size etc., then change type (t) to 82
[15:29] <Pumpkin-_> sdasda: yeah, that really sounds like dd
[15:30] <v0lksman> llutz: thanks!  been a while!  :)
[15:31] <sdasda> thanks
[15:32] <v0lksman> http://dpaste.com/833825/  <-  still can't make them identical which is weird
[15:32] <georgeph> sdasda...they are just trying to put norton out of business
[15:33] <georgeph> sdasda...but it is none of my business
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> sdasda  linux has dd if=blah of=blah    <-- input file/output file
[15:33] <nibbler> v0lksman: you can use sfdisk to dump on one and write to another hd. or just copy everything with the tool of your chice (cp, dd, cat)
 I can't really understand you. i was asking about dd, not about norton :)
[15:34] <dan-mytt> anyone with experienc e of ssh
 thank you
[15:34] <v0lksman> I think I'm going to rebuild.  This was supposed to build with the disks mirrored.
[15:34] <georgeph> sdasda...well dd is a free version of norton ghost
[15:34] <nibbler> lol
[15:34] <georgeph> sdasda...so who will pay for norton's products
[15:34] <avinash> hello
[15:34] <nibbler> !ask | dan-mytt
[15:35] <boichev> avinash, hi
[15:37] <dan-mytt> set up openssh- server on host and client on netbook can ssh across LAN but when i log in on an external internet connection(BT Openzone) and try to shh into the host the connection times out and nothing happens! i set port forawrding for the host on the router!! i allowed port 22 on firewall inbound and outbound for everyone but still no connection
[15:38] <x7fffffff_> Hello there, ive got a question and i hope i am in the right channel...  on my newly installed 12.10 (x64) box im trying to install fglrx which installs just fine, however on reboot it automaticly sets a default resolution that my monitor cant handle which shuts off at that point leaving me blinded. On debian i'd edit that in [/etc/X11/xorg.conf] however on this version of ubuntu i dont find...
[15:38] <x7fffffff_> ...that file. Any idea where that configuration/data is now stored?
[15:39] <gy> channel
[15:39] <sdasda> In fact I want to recover some data after formating... Do anyone know how to do it?
[15:39] <sdasda> I've already tried testdisk, but no resoult...
[15:40] <atlef> what about photorec
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> !recover | sdasda maybe this is helpful
[15:40] <boichev> x7fffffff_, look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[15:41] <Butcho> Anyone help with installing the nvidia driver? http://pastebin.com/fpy0u3Zx
[15:41] <sdasda> !recovery
[15:41] <Toph2> my comuter hangs almost daily , running 12,04. Can someone direct me to a log that indicates what is happening, please?
[15:41] <sdasda> Thank you,,, well it was an ntfs filesystem
[15:42] <x7fffffff_> Thank you boichev, however installing isnt the issue, im trying to find out where the xorg configuration is stored on 12.10
[15:42] <RamchandraApte> x7fffffff_: use locate command to search the entire filesystem instantly
[15:42] <georgeph> sdasda well for woking with ntfs stuff.you can try backtrak5linux...it has some ntfs-3 stuff
[15:42] <boichev> x7fffffff_, I think if there is no such file you just can make one
[15:42] <sdasda> thanks
[15:42] <RamchandraApte> boichev: no
[15:42] <RamchandraApte> boichev: the config files are stored in a dir
[15:43] <x7fffffff_> I tried making one but it doesnt get read... guessing its using a config file other than xorg.conf
[15:43] <RamchandraApte> x7fffffff_: yes
[15:43] <RamchandraApte> x7fffffff_: ubuntu uses a dir for the xorg config files
[15:44] <boichev> RamchandraApte, x7fffffff_ my bad :)
[15:44] <RamchandraApte> x7fffffff_: found it. it is at /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[15:44] <peeps> i just upgraded to 12.10 and i can't get into gui now.  the login screen comes up but when i enter my password the screen flashes black for a second and then returns to login screen
[15:45] <peeps> this is my Xorg.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1372678
[15:45] <Butcho> peeps, hit Ctrl-Alt-F1, log in, and delete the most recently created dotfiles
[15:45] <micfan> O, some times it should be restart for login
[15:46] <peeps> Butcho: dotfiles?
[15:46] <RamchandraApte> peeps: (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory
[15:46] <AR_> suck 3 anuses
[15:46] <RamchandraApte> peeps: you have a problem with nvidia drivers. I don't know how to help with that as I always use intel HD graphics( they can play Doom 3 decently)
[15:47] <x7fffffff_> Thanks but none of these configs hold any information to the Driver and Screen part of the xorg config
[15:47] <RamchandraApte> x7fffffff_: what is your proble,?
[15:47] <sdasda> Thank you. Do you think if ddrescue would work? I mean is it for restoring, or it just makes a copy of the disk?
[15:47] <peeps> ok, i'll try reinstalling them i guess.  this crap seems to happen on every upgrade
[15:47] <georgeph> Ramchandr...what about cube...cube2...cube assault does intel support the free stuff
[15:47] <micfan> may close two display mode in bios
[15:47] <x7fffffff_> [the driver isnt specified in the configs in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf]
[15:47] <RamchandraApte> georgeph: ?
[15:48] <RamchandraApte> georgeph: is uses open-source drivers
[15:48] <x7fffffff_> my problem is that the default resolution isnt supported by my monitor and therefor needs to be changed in the config.
[15:48] <georgeph> Ramchandra...have you tested the free cube 2 engines with your intel graphics
[15:48] <Butcho> omg, they really need to set up a dependenct for nvidia-current to linux-source and linux-headers
[15:48] <maxwel> i can put ubuntu in my lotop ?
[15:48] <x7fffffff_> but the config is lost!
[15:49] <Butcho> peeps, did that fix it?
[15:49] <peeps> Butcho: i don't know what you mean dotfiles
[15:49] <RamchandraApte> maxb: does it a dedicated graphics card?
[15:49] <georgeph> Ramchand...but really people are getting tired of fps stuff....even third party shooters don't draw an audience anymore...not sure what the outcome will be for the new laura croft propietary stuff
[15:50] <RamchandraApte> georgeph: at least my 3D gaming needs are satisfied by my integrated card :D
[15:50] <Butcho> peeps, is there a .dmrc in your home dir
[15:50] <georgeph> Ramchan...well see if the free cube engines work on your intel
[15:50] <RamchandraApte> georgeph: pm me for further things
[15:51] <georgeph> Ramchan...if you like that propietary doom stuff
[15:51] <riqdiiz> If I want to open firefox and type in myaddress.com  and click enter then copy all the resulting contents of the page into tomboy notes.how do I use code to do all this withouthaving to click all those buttons?
[15:51] <RamchandraApte> georgeph: doom is not propriatery
[15:51] <peeps> Butcho: yeah
[15:51] <Butcho> delete it
[15:51] <x7fffffff_> thankyou...
[15:51] <georgeph> Ramchand...yes it is....they upgraded to quake engine but still fps
[15:51] <georgeph> Ramchan...but the cube engines are free
[15:51] <peeps> Butcho: still the same problem
[15:52] <Butcho> eh, restart maybe
[15:52] <Butcho> or restart the X server
[15:52] <mr_lou> I'm finding myself in need of buying some semi-great graphics-card, since my computer is too slow for semi-advanced video-editing. But I have bad experience with installing a graphicscard on a running Linux system, where as there'd be no problem if I'd install the graphicscard first and then install Linux.....   But I'd rather not have to install Ubuntu and all my programs all over again, so my question is; is there any particular graphicscar
[15:52] <mr_lou> d I'll have more luck with on a running Ubuntu system?
[15:53] <RamchandraApte> mr_lou: which graphics card do you currently have?
[15:53] <mr_lou> RamchandraApte, Have no idea. Some not-so-spectacular onboard one.
[15:53] <mr_lou> RamchandraApte, It's using Nvidia drivers though.
[15:53] <escott> mr_lou, not sure how a graphics card is going to help that much with video editing
[15:53] <RamchandraApte> mr_lou: my integrated Intel HD works quite well with Blender
[15:54] <mr_lou> escott, Local computershop dude says it will.
[15:54] <mr_lou> escott, What would you recommend then?
[15:54] <Laedn> so as far as i understand, journalling only help if the system hangs up and bust be hard-resetted, or if the is a power outage. Is it really all that?
[15:54] <RamchandraApte> mr_lou: more memory and a good CPU and a good GPU
[15:54] <georgeph> Ramch...man you are lucky...the only way i currently have blender working is with nvidia on windows...but i would like to get it working with ati on linux
[15:54] <mr_lou> RamchandraApte, My current one also works fine, except when I start adding various filters and whatnot on my videoclips, then it becomes slow.
[15:54] <RamchandraApte> mr_lou: with what?
[15:54] <mr_lou> RamchandraApte, I'm using Kdenlive.
[15:55] <escott> mr_lou, yes the cards can accelerate decode, but.... that requires driver and program support and the drivers coming from AMD/NVIDIA have never been particularly good wrt those additional features so the programs were never written to take advantage of it
[15:55] <RamchandraApte> mr_lou: when you are rendering it in the highest settings?
[15:55] <mr_lou> RamchandraApte, No, just playing back in the program.
[15:55] <escott> Laedn, yes
[15:55] <RamchandraApte> mr_lou: give the output of lspci|grep VGA
[15:55] <georgeph> Ramch...nobody cares about rendering for 50 inch plasma screens.... they care about free stereoscopic rendering for 3d vision
[15:56] <mr_lou> RamchandraApte, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2)
[15:56] <sudaya> hi all how to auto mount ntfs drive with user but not root user
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> sudaya  in /etc/fstab
[15:56] <escott> sudaya, you can set uid,gid options in your fstab entry
[15:57] <RamchandraApte> sudaya: I think there is an option to auto-mount drives.
[15:57] <v0lksman> when I boot from a key with 12.04 I only see this little tiny blob in the lower left of the screen not the choose a language menu you should see...any ideas why?  I need that primary menu
[15:57] <sudaya> escott: i have add UUID=E6FE79EBFE79B481	/media/System 	ntfs 	users,defaults 0 0 in fstab
[15:57] <sudaya> escott: how to set uid
[15:57] <PrototypeX29A> hi
[15:58] <escott> sudaya, uid=1000,gid=1000 in the options
[15:58] <Laedn> escott: could you please remember me which was the program to remove journaling on 12.04 or 12.10 ?
[15:58] <sudaya> escott: uid=1000 means ??
[15:58] <escott> Laedn, etunefs
[15:59] <escott> sudaya, it makes 1000 the owner of the files in that folder
[15:59] <Laedn> escott: thank you!
[16:00] <sudaya> escott: thank you
[16:00] <PrototypeX29A> don't the package openjdk-7-jdk and openjdk-7-jre include the binaries java and javac?
[16:00] <PrototypeX29A> my eclipse doesn't run anymore and it looks like the binaries got removed, but installing jre and jdk doesn't help
[16:01] <blackjack84_ang> prima  ti sposo poi ti rovino
[16:03] <PrototypeX29A> if i try to run 'java' ubuntu recommends to install openjdk-7-jre-headless (and others) but it already IS installed
[16:03] <Laedn> escott: sorry, have you any idea how i can run the command if the boot SSD is still mounted?
[16:03] <PrototypeX29A> is there anythin broken with my packaging?
[16:03] <escott> Laedn, livecd
[16:04] <Laedn> escott: ok, so the change will remain? i'm not actually sure where it will store that value tho
[16:04] <escott> Laedn, its stored in the superblock
[16:05] <Laedn> escott: k great
[16:10] <Guest34046> How to make my USB Bootable, and install windows on it? Because I'm trying too install Windows on one hard drive, and on the other one is THIS OS which is Ubuntu.
[16:11] <Phryq> hey, is there a way to run fluxbox other than with "startx" ?
[16:11] <lawltoad> anyone have any experience or read on af anyone installing linux on the lenovo ideapad yoga 13?
[16:11] <Phryq> or alternatively, a way to add a regular user account to run startx?
[16:12] <escott> Phryq, do you really want a "fluxbox" session. like really truly want no session manager
[16:14] <escott> !ot | Guest34046
[16:14] <Guest34046> ubottu: Okay =)
[16:15] <Cong> hello!
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> im looking to remove zeitgeist without messing up unity-desktop
[16:15] <phunyguy_work> hey guys, I am trying to add Twitter as an online account in 12.10 and I am behind a firewall with SOCKS proxy via SSH tunnel.  google, facebook, and this IRC work good, but twitter will not do anything after I click the twitter button and then it wants me to authorize ubuntu to access my twitter account
[16:16] <phunyguy_work> I just get an empty window
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> phunguy_work:maybe twitter using an alternative port? try nmap yourself
[16:17] <phunyguy_work> lotuspsychje: will nmap honor a socks proxy?
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> phunguy_work:not sure, its worth a try
[16:18] <phunyguy_work> It works on my laptop when at home, just not here at work.
[16:18] <phunyguy_work> (behind the proxy)
[16:18] <phunyguy_work> that leads me to believe there is an issue with the proxy implementation portion of twitter/gwibber
[16:18] <phunyguy_work> or twitter/online accounts
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> phunguy_work: is your problem something like this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/172032/when-adding-twitter-details-to-online-account-page-keeps-timing-out-before-i-ca
[16:20] <phunyguy_work> lotuspsychje: no, when you click twitter, and it comes up with the window that you would normally enter your twitter username and password, nothing happens.  No login dialog.
[16:20] <Laedn> escott: i'm wondering just a thing: how can i disable journalling on a ubuntu virtual machine?
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> phunyguy_work:not sure then mate sorry
[16:22] <phunyguy_work> lotuspsychje: also like I said, normally it works great when I am at home, but on this PC I am forced to proxy.  All other online accounts including this IRC chat via Empathy work great.  Just no twitter
[16:22] <phunyguy_work> ok.
[16:24] <llutz> Laedn: sudo tune2fs -O ^has_journal /dev/sdXY           to turn journalling off, make a backup before
[16:25] <Laedn> llutz: but i'm supposed to unmount the boot drive first. And how can i run a live on a VM guest?
[16:26] <llutz> Laedn: just use the iso as boot-device
[16:26] <amcsi_work> hi
[16:26] <Laedn> llutz: sounds neart
[16:26] <Laedn> s/neart/neat
[16:27] <escott> Laedn, same answer. livecd
[16:27] <amcsi_work> I mounted an ssh server with sshfs to some folder in /media, but my VPS failed which caused the ssh connection to terminate. Now I cannot unmount the sshfs, and also, linux hangs when I even do ls on /media. How do I fix this?
[16:27] <escott> Laedn, of course it being virtual you just pass the virtualization system the iso and it will emulate the drive. so i guess its "virtual live cd"
[16:27] <bdi> is there anything like dropbox i can use to enable users across different platforms to synchronize files via my server ?
[16:28] <escott> diverdude, you want to run something internally?
[16:28] <Laedn> escott: yeah sorry that was pretty obv. I'm a little bit slow today :(
[16:28] <diverdude> escott, yeah
[16:28] <llutz> bdi http://owncloud.org/
[16:28] <OerHeks> bdi ubuntu-one ?
[16:30] <leftist> fter you download jre how do you install it? i have so much difficulty with java in ubuntu...
[16:30] <leftist> [11:30] [Error] after: Unknown command.
[16:31] <sledges> please thumbs up for Jolla! GNU/Linux smartphone developer,reviving fun-rich MeeGo codebase/N9 experience! http://www.tosielamandiili.fi/peukutus.shtml (press Tyykaa under logo) - they need your votes to beat rival which gained 4k votes over 1 night :( poll closes soon & Jolla is presenting UI and SDK tomorrow at #slush12
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> sledges  wrong channel
[16:32] <sledges> apologies for spamming, but it looks appropriate
[16:32] <llutz> spam never  is appropriate
[16:32] <leftist> why am i always told i need to install java when i knnow it's installed?
[16:33] <leftist> i just checked the control panel and it shows it installed.
[16:33] <escott> leftist, probably not in your path
[16:33] <sledges> for the sake of FOSS in our hands in the shape of a smartphone?
[16:33] <phunyguy_work> sledges this is a support channel
[16:33] <phunyguy_work> therefore spam is never appropriate
[16:33] <escott> leftist, check update-alternatives to see what you have selected for your java,javac
[16:34] <leftist> ok escott thanks
[16:34] <leftist> btw i run 10.04 lts
[16:34] <sledges> apologies, won't do this again
[16:34] <marlic> ?
[16:34] <phunyguy_work> for some reason I don't believe you.
[16:35] <phunyguy_work> just a hunch.
[16:35] <sledges> well this was my first time, apparently the last, seeing how it was welcomed/against the rules
[16:38] <BluesKaj> sledges, just leave the baggage behind next time  :)
[16:39] <leftist> what happened sledges? i love controversy  :D
[16:39] <sledges> read up ;)
[16:40] <bazhang> !ot | sledges leftist
[16:40] <sledges> !guidelines
[16:40] <bazhang> sledges, thats enough
[16:40] <phunyguy_work> I suggest those guidelines get read, as they mention bot abuse.
[16:41] <morgoth> hi
[16:41] <morgoth> is there no qt3 support in kubuntu 12.10? or why was nethack-qt removed? im devastated, guys!
[16:41] <phunyguy_work> morgoth, #kubuntu may be more appropriate if you can't find the answer here
[16:42] <morgoth> phunyguy_work: thanks, ill check there
[16:42] <morgoth> although i was pretty sure that they all use the same package repository, only with different packages to be installed by the installation media
[16:43] <morgoth> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal main restricted
[16:43] <phunyguy_work> morgoth: correct, but most users here are ubuntu, not Kubuntu, and even if the #kubuntu channel is slow, you will probably still get a faster answer there on a kubuntu related question
[16:44] <phunyguy_work> morgoth: I wasnt saying you were wrong for asking, I was saying this may not be the best place to ask.
[16:45] <BluesKaj> morgoth, is qt4 not working for you ?
[16:45] <PrototypeX29A> it seems that i am missing /etc/alternatives/java completely, to my understanding it should be there after i have installed openjdk-7-jre
[16:45] <morgoth> BluesKaj: it is working, but i figured the nethack-qt package used libqt3-mt, which is no longer available
[16:46] <BluesKaj> ok morgoth , I'm not familiar with nethack-qt
, yes I do
[16:47] <Phryq> I want to run only fluxbox, with maybe a file manager like nautilus
[16:47] <escott> Phryq, in that case i guess create an Xsession file in /etc/X11
[16:47] <phunyguy_work> I stand corrected, but BluesKaj, you ARE in the #kubuntu channel, no?
[16:47] <phunyguy_work> :P
[16:47] <Walex> Phryq: 'nautilus' will most likely pull in most of GNOME as a side effect
[16:48] <grendal_prime> ok
[16:48] <BluesKaj> phunyguy_work, yes I am
[16:48] <Riddell> morgoth: yes it's been removed because qt 3 has been removed, bugs.debian.org/604363
[16:48] <phunyguy_work> another one in the #kubuntu channel.
[16:49] <morgoth> Riddell: then this is the time to get involved, as soon as i manage to build the qt4 version. :S
[16:49] <morgoth> Riddell: thanks
[16:49] <phunyguy_work> ok I'm done for now.  I need to ask my question again I think, I can't get Twitter to give me a login screen via online-accounts when behind a proxy.
[16:50] <phunyguy_work> and come to think of it, Gwibber itself gives me no content even though facebook maps.
[16:50] <phunyguy_work> I am chatting with you on IRC via the proxy and empathy
[16:53] <ChristopherAlan> I'm running Ubuntu on a powermac g5,
[16:53] <ChristopherAlan> runs good,  anyone think I will have any problems with booting & grub
[16:53] <ChristopherAlan> if I install multiple distro's to my machine ?
[16:53] <teratoma> so i can connect to my work's Microsoft PPTP VPN , in the graphical interface ( I guess its network manager ).  how can i do this from the command line ?
[16:55] <llutz> teratoma: http://askubuntu.com/questions/57339/connect-disconnect-from-vpn-from-the-command-line
[16:55] <killer> how do i re-partition my btrfs  partition(seperate for keeping data only)...in precise
[16:55] <escott> killer, repartition meaning?
[16:55] <theadmin> teratoma: Use "pptpsetup" to configure the connection and "pon connection-name" to connect.
[16:56] <llutz> teratoma: and you want to ask your it-profs why they still use pptp...
[16:56] <escott> !ppc | ChristopherAlan
[16:56] <killer> ok ......i did n't make it clear enough, i mean i want to resize it ....(shrink it):escott
[16:56] <escott> ChristopherAlan, i realize thats probably not helpful
[16:56] <teratoma> thanks.  i have no control over the terrible VPN!
[16:57] <escott> killer, then you need to use the btrfs tools to shrink the filesystem first, then you can shrink the partition
[16:57] <ChristopherAlan> it's okay hah
[16:57] <mllie> How do I do to automount some usb hdds? To mount them now I do like this:  mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc1 /media/usb0 -o uid=martin
[16:57] <escott> !fstab | mllie
[16:57] <killer> i have installed btrfs-tools but still can't resize it : escott
[16:57] <ChristopherAlan> I've just read about people with problems, so I cast a lure seeing if anyone had some personal insight on it in here,  thanks
[16:58] <mllie> escott: yes, but I don't know how to write it correctly there. The mount-command workds
[16:58] <mllie> escott: but I want to be able to plug them in after boot also for example
[16:58] <escott> ChristopherAlan, im just not sure how many people here are going to have a ppc system much less have multiple distros on it
[16:58] <ChristopherAlan> I understood it was a long shot
[16:58] <marlic> !
[16:58] <escott> mllie, (a) you need to use blkid to identify the proper UUID
[16:59] <mllie> escott: blkid?
[16:59] <escott> mllie, then it will be roughly "UUID /media/usb0 ntfs uid=1000 0 0"
[16:59] <escott> !uuid | mllie
[17:00] <mllie> escott: I see
[17:02] <MrELusiveness> hmmm
[17:02] <MrELusiveness> iam currently using 12.04 LTS 64 bit
[17:02] <MrELusiveness> is it worth moving up to 12.10?
[17:03] <mllie> escott: something like this? 8AE8FF55E8FF3E4F        /media/usb0     ntfs    uid=martin      0       0
[17:03] <theadmin> MrELusiveness: Depends on your purposes. If you require stability and support, then probably not. If you want new features, sure. I myself am waiting for 14.04
[17:03] <MrELusiveness> iam concerned about better operation with wine
[17:03] <escott> !ntfs | mllie also check this. you probably want to setup the ntfs-3g driver not the in kernel driver, and i dont know what that looks like in fstab
[17:03] <mllie> escott: in fstab
[17:03] <MrELusiveness> 14.04?
[17:03] <mllie> escott: I just need read-access :)
[17:03] <escott> mllie, you shouldn't say "martin" in fstab. it might work but we usually put numbers in fstab
[17:04] <mllie> escott: how do I get the uid?
[17:04] <escott> mllie, also consider setting gid, and noexec
[17:04] <escott> mllie, "id"
[17:04] <MrELusiveness> well sometime in april 2013 support will end for 12.04 i read
[17:04] <bazhang> MrELusiveness, thats not correct
[17:05] <mllie> escott: better like this? 8AE8FF55E8FF3E4F        /media/usb0     ntfs    uid=1000,gid=1000,noexec        0       0
[17:05] <bazhang> it's FIVE years MrELusiveness
[17:05] <MrELusiveness> that was froma  public ubuntu blog
[17:05] <theadmin> mllie: No, more of: UUID=8AE8FF55E8FF3E4F /media/usb0 ntfs-3g user,users,nofail,mode=0777 0 0
[17:05] <MrELusiveness> ok cool
[17:05] <bazhang> MrELusiveness, 10.04 is in 2013
[17:05] <MrELusiveness> now if only the wine packages could get a update :D
[17:06] <mllie> theadmin: I don't need write-access and then don't want to install ntfs-3g :)
[17:06] <bazhang> MrELusiveness, #winehq for their repo
[17:06] <MrELusiveness> oh then someone must have confused 12.10 with 12.04
[17:06] <MrELusiveness> yeah i know
[17:06] <theadmin> mllie: Oh, okay, then: UUID=whatever /media/usb0 ntfs defaults,nofail 0 0
[17:06] <MrELusiveness> i was in the winehq channle all this last week
[17:06] <axgb123> I have an internet problem on ubuntu. sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. I dont know why. I am dual boot 12.10 and win7. What should i do?
[17:06] <bazhang> MrELusiveness, no, 12.10 is 18 months
[17:06] <mllie> theadmin: what is nofail?
[17:07] <theadmin> mllie: The "nofail" is necessary to prevent errors if the device isn't present on bootup, judging by "usb0" I suppose you want that.
[17:07] <bazhang> axgb123, wifi?
[17:07] <mllie> theadmin: correct. And that will be accessable when plugged in then?
[17:07] <MrELusiveness> being dual boot wont affect your internet connection
[17:07] <theadmin> mllie: Yeah
[17:08] <axgb123> yes wifi. ethernet works fine but this is wifi im talking about
[17:08] <escott> theadmin, mllie wants it automounted on boot for "martin" not sure users is going to know who the correct owner is
[17:08] <bazhang> !wifi | axgb123
[17:08] <axgb123> our house (unfortunatly) is done with wifi
[17:08] <MrELusiveness> drivers can be the problem
[17:08] <mllie> theadmin: is it mounted as martin in this case then?
[17:08] <escott> theadmin, if you set it to 777 that i opens it up. perhaps thats satisfactory to mllie
[17:08] <axgb123> someone said that something on windows will fix it. i changed that setting and nothing happened.
[17:08] <theadmin> mllie: Who cares what the owner is if the access is read-only anyway? Won't matter.
[17:09] <MrELusiveness> yeah alot of the chepa notebooks that came out have not the best wifi installed but ubuntu works with a bunch
[17:09] <axgb123> and it sometimes  works, sometimes doesn't so that shows that drivers are not the problem
[17:09] <MrELusiveness> err cheap notebooks
[17:09] <mllie> theadmin: well, it does. At least when I did mount with mount-command it was only the owner that did get read-access
[17:09] <axgb123> also this is a desktop computer and also i tried Wicd and the same problem was the case
[17:09] <theadmin> mllie: If necessary, though, run "id -u martin" and find the UID, then add "uid=1000" to the options, where 1000 is the number you get
[17:09] <mllie> theadmin: shall I do ,ro as well? because rw is default?
[17:10] <theadmin> mllie: The "ntfs" driver doesn't support read-write access so that does nothing\
[17:10] <escott> mllie, the selected driver doesn't do writes so the ro is redundant but its no harm to add it
[17:10] <axgb123> but, for some reason, if i reboot into windows then reboot into ubuntu it starts working again. Very strange
[17:10] <escott> mllie, makes your fstab more explicit which is good
[17:10] <leftist> really strange escott but i was able to get java to work with firefox and the really odd thing is that i was shown the routine for it on googles dev portal and yet they didnt have anything for chrome of which i use so i used firefox. i'm startinng to have seconnd thhoughts about chrome in general for any os to be honest. but i'm good! Thanks!
[17:10] <MrELusiveness> a reboot does tend to fix things alone
[17:10] <mllie> escott: theadmin: like this? UUID=8AE8FF55E8FF3E4F   /media/usb0     ntfs    defaults,uid=1000,ro,nofail     0       0
[17:11] <theadmin> mllie: Yeah that looks about right
[17:11] <axgb123> no, it only works if i boot into windows then reboot into ubuntu. I have tried both and only the first works
[17:11] <theadmin> mllie: Make sure you *are* id 1000 though with the command I gave (id -u martin)
[17:11] <mllie> theadmin: sweet. How do I test it without reboot?
[17:11] <MrELusiveness> cold boots
[17:11] <mllie> theadmin: it is 1000
[17:11] <theadmin> mllie: Well, to test it you can run "sudo mount -a"
[17:11] <MrELusiveness> reset alot of stuff
[17:11] <mllie> theadmin: first umount /media/usb0?
[17:11] <MrELusiveness> like total shutdown
[17:11] <theadmin> mllie: Well, yes
[17:11] <escott> mllie, you can customize till your eyes bleed. im sure that is adequate. i would probably throw gid=1000 and noexec on it
[17:12] <theadmin> escott: The gid for the "users" group on ubuntu is 1000? That's a weird choice...
[17:12] <MrELusiveness> but sounds like a driver/hardware issue
[17:12] <theadmin> Oh wait, ubuntu doesn't have "users"
[17:12] <mllie> theadmin: escott well, some errors. I gtg, brb!
[17:13] <axgb123> but it also does not work with wicd so how can it be drivers
[17:13] <escott> theadmin, no the "martin" group. i don't have a users group
[17:13] <datruth> Is there something betterthan virtualbox it seems to be the main cause of freezing and locking up my kubuntu system
[17:13] <axgb123> either when i boot up it works with both wicd and default network manager, or it works with neither. SO it cant be a drivers problem
[17:13] <MrELusiveness> ive seen driver that were ment for the hardware not always work right
[17:13] <escott> theadmin, mostly i dont like files that are owned by "joe:root"
[17:14] <axgb123> what should i try doing. ive tried almost everything but ive always had this same problem
[17:14] <MrELusiveness> then theres always that chance that the hardware is acting up
[17:14] <theadmin> escott: That's honestly a weird choice, most distros I know have a "users" group where pretty much every user who can log in gets added. Having separate groups for every user kind of nullifies the purpose of the group permission bit on files in your $HOME
[17:14] <MrELusiveness> WHAT? card that go bad? no way
[17:14] <axgb123> but it works almost perfectly on winows 7 when it ius booted into
[17:14] <escott> theadmin, i understand the point of it. just saying i dont have a users group, and AFAIK ubuntu has never by default had one
[17:14] <andygraybeal> is it possible to only use a touchscreen with ubuntu?  (like if i select an entry box it will popup with an onscreen keyboard?)
[17:15] <MrELusiveness> windows works with the hardware diffrently too
[17:15] <axgb123> its a tplink and it has an atheros chipset
[17:15] <theadmin> escott: Yeah I know, just rambling, forgot it doesn't, sorry
[17:15] <escott> theadmin, rather it has one but people aren't added to it automatically. its id 100
[17:15] <vivid> andygraybeal, yes its possible, the onscreen keyboard is called onboard
[17:16] <MrELusiveness> its best to go with hardware that share's dev info with open source developers
[17:16] <andygraybeal> vivid, how do i configure this?
[17:16] <axgb123> what should i do? im not expert. ive tried all sorts of crazy things to try and get it to work
[17:17] <MrELusiveness> hello again Vivid
[17:17] <theadmin> axgb123: Is ath9k loaded?
[17:17] <axgb123> what do it do? sudo apt-get install ath9k?
[17:17] <axgb123> i dont know if it is installed or loaded
[17:17] <axgb123> or whatever
[17:17] <v0lksman> anyone know if it's possible to convert a single drive system into a software RAID1 ?
[17:17] <theadmin> axgb123: Eh, no, just check if it's loaded: lsmod | grep ath
[17:18] <vivid> andygraybeal, i dont know, you may have to do some research
[17:18] <MrELusiveness> check to see if the are other drivers to choose from for that hardware
[17:18] <andygraybeal> vivid, thank you!
[17:18] <axgb123> im on ubuntu, and it just happens to be working now, as i said it sometimes does and sometimes does not
[17:18] <MrELusiveness> ubuntu gives me options for other drivers for my video card for example
[17:18] <theadmin> axgb123: Sounds sort of random, I dunno. Try updating your system, may be a bug that's fixed in a new release
[17:19] <theadmin> s/release/package versions/gi
[17:19] <axgb123> theadmin: ive updated, ive coped with the problem since about 11.10 when i started using ubuntu *A lot*
[17:19] <MrELusiveness> sometimes it will show a icon at the top of the screen for optional drivers
[17:19] <axgb123> this is what came out of the terminal :ath9k                 131308  0  mac80211              539908  1 ath9k ath9k_common           14055  1 ath9k ath9k_hw              395218  2 ath9k,ath9k_common ath                    23827  3 ath9k,ath9k_common,ath9k_hw cfg80211              206566  3 ath9k,mac80211,ath
[17:19] <MrELusiveness> or you can find the link in the system settings
[17:20] <theadmin> axgb123: Hm, looks good to me... But then again it *is* working now so that's no surprise
[17:20] <MrELusiveness> did you go 32bit or 64bit with your ubuntu install?
[17:20] <escott> v0lksman, easily
[17:21] <MrELusiveness> axgb123
[17:21] <axgb123> i will get onto the irc on my laptop so i can chat while rebooting and whatever
[17:22] <MrELusiveness> i wonder what brand of hardware is it that the ath9k covers?
[17:23] <axgb1234> im axgb123 but on my laptop as i think the thing requires me to have a new nickname each time.
[17:23] <theadmin> MrELusiveness: Atheros, as the name suggests.
[17:23] <MrELusiveness> oh ok wasnt sure
[17:23] <axgb1234> i am "axgb123" but on my laptop. i think the thing requires me to have a new nickname each time.
[17:23] <theadmin> Easier to guess than say "fglrx"
[17:23] <axgb123> ive gone over to my laptop as axgb1234
[17:24] <axgb1234> shall i get the internet to not work and do what you say
[17:24] <MrELusiveness> if its working leave it alone lol
[17:24] <v0lksman> escott: docs?
[17:25] <axgb1234> no, i mean reboot and see if it stops working as it normally does in my experience
[17:25] <escott> v0lksman, just search for "convert to mdadm RAID1"
[17:25] <MrELusiveness> if you are going to reboot it, try full shut down
[17:25] <axgb1234> ok. thats a good idea
[17:25] <MrELusiveness> that might be key
[17:25] <axgb1234> i will try that
[17:25] <devilirium> Hello, is there a little application to download needed dependencies on every ./configure ?
[17:25] <axgb1234> yes. that sounds right to me
[17:26] <axgb1234> i will just try that now
[17:26] <SolarisBoy> devilirium: nice idea if not =)
[17:26] <MrELusiveness> windows might be resetting the hardware so a shut down might do the same
[17:26] <georgeph> man i am really tired...whats up with this uefi stuff..and ubuntu wanting the redhat kernel patches...but even if they get them they will not get the keys
[17:26] <axgb1234> it is shutting down now
[17:26] <bazhang> !ot | georgeph
[17:26] <georgeph> is this the end of all linux distros except redhat
[17:27] <bazhang> georgeph, thats enough
[17:27] <axgb1234> its starting up now
[17:27] <MrELusiveness> hardly geogeph
[17:27] <bazhang> MrELusiveness, lets move on please
[17:27] <MrELusiveness> ??
[17:27] <axgb1234> ive started up and it shows the animation for connecting and it shows that for ever
[17:28] <MrELusiveness> give it time axg1234
[17:28] <MrELusiveness> wifi can be slow and or picky
[17:28] <axgb1234> and it will show that until i boot into windows then into ubuntu again, i predict
[17:28] <MrELusiveness> do you ahve a switch ont he notebook that turns on and off the wifi?
[17:28] <axgb1234> it is a desktop pc
[17:28] <MrELusiveness> ohh
[17:29] <axgb1234> it seems the situation is that it needs to have been a restart from windows to work.
[17:29] <MrELusiveness> i saw you say laptop before
[17:29] <morgoth> I DID IT :D
[17:30] <axgb1234> no im chatting on the laptop so i can restart on the desktop without interruptions to the chat
[17:30] <morgoth> sorry. i compiled nethack for qt4
[17:30] <axgb1234> the laptop is also dual boot and it works 100% perfectly
[17:30] <morgoth> now i am going to find that guy who ported it, and kill him.
[17:30] <MrELusiveness> iam going to say it has to do with the hardware and the driver
[17:30] <theadmin> morgoth: Why do you even need a Qt version, what's wrong with nethack-x11?
[17:30] <MrELusiveness> the fact you run a dual boot should not mean anything
[17:31] <axgb1234> but how it works has a direct relationship with whether i have just been into windows or not
[17:31] <morgoth> theadmin: i like the qt version better, and im a man of habits.
[17:31] <axgb1234> * i mean whether it works
[17:31] <huevolin1990> hello, i need help at consulting for a crash, but it is about hardware, not software
[17:31] <MrELusiveness> because of how windows activates stuff at boot up
[17:31] <theadmin> huevolin1990: There is ##hardware for hardware-specific questions.
[17:31] <huevolin1990> oh thanks :P
[17:32] <axgb1234> does winows sort of 'start up' the wireless card and ubuntu not, so do i need a driver that 'starts up' the card properly
[17:32] <axgb1234> *winows
[17:32] <axgb1234> *windows
[17:32] <MrELusiveness> do you have a different wifi card you could try in that pc? axgb1234
[17:33] <temp> hello guys, does anyone know how to compile vhdl code with ghdl on a ubuntu 64-bit
[17:34] <georgeph> temp are you trying to design hardware stuff
[17:34] <axgb1234> a few years ago, for some reason i had a 32bit install so i tried an old 32bit wireless card i have. and that did not work. it did the same. now its 64bit
[17:34] <axgb1234> and i think *im not certain* that 32bit is incompatible with 64bit
[17:34] <MrELusiveness> most of the wifi cards you see in walmart work perfectly
[17:35] <axgb1234> i live in the united kingdom walmart does not exist there
[17:35] <MrELusiveness> doh lol
[17:35] <Lorra> Hey everybody, I've got a usb stick with write protect on (no hardware switch) and I'm unable to format it, how should I do to format it?
[17:35] <georgeph> axgb1234...you are lucky...wallmarket has put many small business here out of business and added to massive unemployment
[17:36] <MrELusiveness> heh
[17:36] <theadmin> Lorra: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1 # Or something like that.
[17:36] <axgb1234> this wireless card. i think came from totenam court road, when the computer was being built and there was a little panic with the wireless card being forgotten and bought from there
[17:36] <axgb1234> i dont live in the us so i dont realy know about walmart. all i know is that it is a shop
[17:36] <temp> georgeph: well not really, for now,I'm trying to test some of the vhdl code I have seen in a book I'm reading; I intead working on something hardware later though.
[17:36] <MrELusiveness> axgb1234 my thought was if you could a newer card 3com or something else as in a brand
[17:37] <MrELusiveness> err diffrent brand
[17:37] <georgeph> axgb1234...well they are big and have monopsony power...and have wiped out many small businesses that could not compete with their low prices
[17:37] <Lorra> theadmin: done already, says it can't open the device 'cause it's read-only
[17:37] <theadmin> Lorra: Oh, so it's hardware-protected... um... I dunno honestly if there's no switch
[17:38] <temp> georgeph: any guidance?
[17:38] <axgb1234> is the only option you think will work to buy a new one? the problem was that the card only works if i restarted from windows into ubuntu
[17:38] <MrELusiveness> axgd1234 if it keeps giving you problems then a new card might be the better choice
[17:39] <axgb1234> i would rather not get a new one
[17:39] <axgb1234> would that definitely solve it
[17:39] <axgb1234> can you give me a link to one on amazon uk which will definitely work
[17:40] <MrELusiveness> if you were to get a new card i would say that your chances of support by both os's would be better and not only that, but you wouldnt have to worry about a old card going bad
[17:40] <MrELusiveness> theres always that chance
[17:40] <axgb1234> when the card was bought, no concideration was put into linux
[17:41] <axgb1234> linux was later
[17:41] <MrELusiveness> thats why its a good idea to research before buying
[17:41] <axgb1234> so should i research then buy another
[17:41] <uabn93> does anyone know a workaround for installer crashes? i filed a bug but it looks like a lot of them get ignored
[17:41] <MrELusiveness> google it is for free
[17:41] <MrELusiveness> :D
[17:42] <MrELusiveness> i would
[17:42] <axgb1234> because it says on a ubuntu database that my model of card works perfectly
[17:42] <MrELusiveness> compare to what the support list says for ubuntu
[17:42] <MrELusiveness> windows will alway cover more but checking with the support info for ubuntu you cant go wrong
[17:43] <uabn93> i really want to get this system installed
[17:43] <DaBas> Hello, I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 on my brand new setup with SSD but I noticed that the unpacking (DPKG) takes ages to be completed. On my mechanical hard disk the setup is completed in 20 minutes, on the SSD it takes more than 2hours. I configured the discard,noatime in /etc/fstab (ext4 filesystem). Anyone an idea?
[17:43] <MrELusiveness> slow ssd? dabas
[17:44] <MrELusiveness> theres a lot of cheap SSD's out there
[17:44] <DaBas> MrELusiveness: I did not bought the fasted ssd, but compared 2hours compared to a 20 minutes is to much
[17:44] <axgb1234> go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsTP-Link and do ctrl + f and type TL-WN951N
[17:44] <MrELusiveness> well its buyer beware
[17:44] <escott> DaBas, have you tried without "discard"
[17:44] <axgb1234> try that and as you will see it says that it works and is tested (but only with some old versions
[17:45] <MrELusiveness> sounds limited
[17:45] <DaBas> escott: Yes, when it is installed vanilla, I excecuted the command sudo fstime / -v and i set the discard,noatim in /Etc/fstab
[17:45] <uabn93> do you think switching to 12.04 will fix it?
[17:45] <axgb1234> what do you mean sounds limited
[17:45] <datruth> I'm on 12.04 if I do an apt-get dist-upgrade will that bring me to 12.10?
[17:46] <MrELusiveness> if it only works with some older versions
[17:46] <axgb1234> go check it
[17:46] <Aquilas> exit
[17:46] <MrELusiveness> well if you looked it up you should know
[17:46] <uabn93> i think its the version of ubiquity on 12.10 that's giving me problems
[17:46] <axgb1234> surely they wont make the drivers worse in the new version
[17:46] <bazhang> datruth, dist-upgrade does NOT change versions
[17:46] <DaBas> MrELusiveness: yesterday I installed fedora 17 on the desktop and the ssd is working pretty fast (faster the mechanical) It's like that dpkg is taken to much tme
[17:47] <axgb1234> it says TL-WN951N  Atheros  ath9k  ?  Yes  Yes. Tested on Ubuntu 9.04, 9.10, 10.04  IEEE 802.11n does not work with 11.04. High Packet loss. Works fine in Wireless G. I believe this is a kernel/driver issue  2011-07-25
[17:47] <datruth> Ok then
[17:47] <MrELusiveness> DaBas is that SSD listed in the supported hardware?
[17:47] <DaBas> MrELusiveness: will check is immediately
[17:48] <escott> DaBas, and it was also slow without discard?
[17:48] <axgb1234> dabas is the SSD manufactured by OCZ and does it contain a sandforce controller
[17:48] <MrELusiveness> axgb1234 it looks like you could do better with a diffrent card then
[17:48] <uabn93> how do i troubleshoot installer crashes?
[17:48] <uabn93> anyone?
[17:48] <cordyceps> where does VLC save bookmarks, if it does?
[17:48] <DaBas> axgb1234: No is doesn't change a thing ...
[17:49] <axgb1234> shall i do that
[17:49] <MrELusiveness> YES
[17:49] <MrELusiveness> get a new card and solve your headache
[17:49] <escott> DaBas, i would certainly disable discard, and then i would check your alignment and blocksize
[17:49] <axgb1234> DaBas OCZ SSD drives have a very bad reputation for failing and working badly. My brother put his university coursework on an OCZ drive and lost a load of ti
[17:50] <cordyceps> where does VLC save bookmarks, if it does?
[17:50] <axgb1234> anyway i will get a new card which is definitely compatible
[17:50] <DaBas> axgb1234: I bought the crucial v4 3GB/s 128GB
[17:50] <MrELusiveness> DaBas yeah SSD drives are no where near replacing a regular harddrive just yet
[17:50] <uabn93> ssds have a greater fail rate than hdds in some cases
[17:51] <MrELusiveness> even usb sticks do to
[17:51] <MrELusiveness> er too
[17:52] <temp> please guys, I'm still waiting. Does anyone have any information on compiling vhdl codes using ghdl on ubuntu 64 bit. The code looks OK; a basic hello World Program but it does not compile
[17:52] <axgb1234> no, its not a sandforce chipset and it is not OCZ so i dont know
[17:52] <wolverin> ciao
[17:52] <mllie> theadmin: [240047.064814] NTFS-fs error (device sdc1): parse_options(): Unrecognized mount option nofail.
[17:52] <wolverin> !list
[17:52] <DaBas> uabn93: MrELusiveness: Yep but why is Fedora running like a train and ubuntu as a turtle
[17:52] <compdoc> DaBas, I have 4 OCZ drives. The only problem they have is when the PC sleeps or hibernates. They have released firmware updates for that, but these days I just dont use them in PCs that sleep to be safe
[17:52] <MrELusiveness> probly difffrent driver
[17:52] <theadmin> mllie: Hm, must be specific to some UNIX filesystems. Okay, remove that then
[17:53] <exarkun> I can't seem to install python-pyopencl, http://codepad.org/R4dhmmAE
[17:53] <DaBas> compdoc: Do I need to make attention how to partition the drive ? I have 16GB ram but specifies 4GB of swap in the beginning of the driver, rest is / for data
[17:53] <MrELusiveness> fedora being redhat and ubuntu being debian two diffrent linux distros for sure
[17:53] <mllie> theadmin: what will happen if I try to access /media/usb0 if the disk is removed?
[17:54] <MrELusiveness> DaBas what ver of ubuntu?
[17:54] <uabn93> guess ill come back later
[17:54] <DaBas> 12.04 and 12.10
[17:54] <DaBas> but I prefer 12.04
[17:54] <MrELusiveness> both?
[17:54] <MrELusiveness> did you do a fresh install of 12.04?
[17:54] <compdoc> DaBas, if you allow the OS or gparted to partition, it will be correct. As long as its a current OS. I think Ubuntu 11.10 on up, or windows 7 on up
[17:55] <theadmin> mllie: Well, you'll get an empty folder, but you'll also get a warning on bootup, shouldn't be a big deal, just minor annoyance
[17:55] <MrELusiveness> DaBas ive always thought that a fresh install is better than a upgrade
[17:55] <trash_> hello punx
[17:55] <DaBas> MrELusiveness: yes it is fresh installed
[17:56] <DaBas> both versions
[17:56] <mllie> theadmin: I see!
[17:56] <compdoc> DaBas, be sure to update the ssd drive's fireware
[17:56] <compdoc> firmware
[17:56] <morphias> hello my fello linux fellows
[17:57] <MrELusiveness> well DaBas if you are not sure about the make and what controller this ssd has then that could be a problem
[17:57] <SierraAR> I've got gparted installed and running now on 12.04, curious what the /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda5 partitions are for (There's about 4GB for each)
[17:57] <MrELusiveness> knowing what your hardware is can be important
[17:57] <DaBas> compdoc: I think they didn't release a firmware upgrade for this SSD ...
[17:58] <compdoc> all OCZ drives have them, as far as I know
[17:58] <MrELusiveness> is there a model # ont he drive?
[17:59] <DaBas> MrELusiveness: Will check it
[17:59] <MrELusiveness> k
[18:00] <Twisty> how can I cut a file to the last 10 lines? outputting tail back to the same file empties the file. can I do this without copying to another file first?
[18:01] <exarkun> On Quantal, I can't install python-pyopencl.  apt-get complains that "opencl-icd" is uninstallable: <http://codepad.org/R4dhmmAE>.  How do I get opencl-icd?  Or how do I get past that to be able to have a working python-pyopencl?
[18:01] <mllie> theadmin: well, now when first booting and then insert the hdd. /media/usb0 is still empty?
[18:01] <theadmin> mllie: Oh that's odd.
[18:02] <erictr1ck> man, i really wished we could move the unity launcher to the bottom of the screen. i always like it on the left, but now that i have 2 monitors its pretty annoying.
[18:02] <DaBas> MrELusiveness: On the top of the drive there is no label, but this is the site: http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?imodule=CT128V4SSD2
[18:02] <theadmin> mllie: What does "sudo mount /media/usb0" report?
[18:03] <MrELusiveness> nothing on the drive its self?
[18:03] <MrELusiveness> nothing stamped or printed?
[18:03] <mllie> theadmin: now it reads correctly
[18:03] <mllie> theadmin: I got two disks. The other one's folder is still empty tho
[18:04] <MrELusiveness> DaBas if there is nothing to identify the drive on the outside, it could be anything.
[18:04] <MrELusiveness> you could see how fedora see it as far as what the device name or driver its using
[18:04] <invariant> How do I enable pdo_pgsql to work with Apache2 and PHP5?
[18:04] <DaBas> Maybe at the bottom of the drive, but it is currently mounted with screws in the bottom of the case  (antec case) ...
[18:05] <invariant> I don't quite understand why just installing it isn't enough either.
[18:05] <MrELusiveness> DaBas figuring out what that drive is will help
[18:06] <mllie> theadmin: any idea?
[18:06] <DaBas> Ok I will give it a try this evening
[18:06] <QS81> can anyone help me with upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10? I'm getting a held dependency error but there are no broken packages when I scan with synaptic.
[18:06] <theadmin> mllie: Not really :(
[18:06] <DaBas> MrELusiveness: thx for help already
[18:06] <MrELusiveness> np
[18:06] <DaBas> compdoc: Thx for help already
[18:06] <compdoc> good luck
[18:07] <bincp> anyone using ubuntu with openvpn connection?
[18:07] <mllie> escott: maybe you have any idea?
[18:08] <bincp> Iḿ having an issue with connecting to my VPN at home from my laptop here at work. It has all the information, keys and such, I know vpn works as it works fine from MS side.
[18:08] <MrELusiveness> if you have a flash drive that has a hardware write protect enabled with out a switch to turn it off then i think you should hit it very hard with a hammer
[18:09] <c0dr> .
[18:09] <gandhijee_> hello.  are there any EGL libs for ubuntu 10.04
[18:09] <gandhijee_> please do
[18:09] <_Bier> hello i was wondering if there is a way to move the dock to the bottom in ubuntu 12.10 64bit?
[18:09] <gandhijee_> please don't start with ubuntu 10.04 is no longer supported.  i know this already.  i just want to know if there are any EGL libs for ubuntu 10.04
[18:09] <peepsalot> i just upgraded to 12.10 and using cinnamon desktop and i can't lock my screen
[18:10] <peepsalot> there is a menu item that says lock screen and clicking it does nothing
[18:10] <peepsalot> also it is syupposed to lock when the screen is turned off from being idle, but it wakes up without prompting for a password
[18:10] <MrELusiveness> 12.10 from what i understand is not 100% stable correct me if iam wrong
[18:10] <xangua> peepsalot: cinnamon isn't supported here, try the mint channel
[18:11] <vahnx> is there any way to get back the compiz burn effect in 12.10?
[18:11] <gustav__> What's mint?
[18:11] <MrELusiveness> he probly ment linux mint distro
[18:12] <gustav__> Is it fresh?
[18:12] <gustav__> So it's the same as Ubuntu+
[18:12] <gustav__> ?
[18:12] <gustav__> Do the ops run mint? Or Ubuntu?
[18:12] <MrELusiveness> its just another distro no its not unbuntu
[18:12] <OerHeks> gustav__, no, it is an old gnome2 fork. but gnome is dead.
[18:12] <OerHeks> !mint
[18:13] <john__> I need to connect to a second computer. Nothing works.. Hel!
[18:13] <invariant> OerHeks, it's not dead when people maintain it.
[18:13] <invariant> OerHeks, it's just that the original people don't support it.
[18:13] <john__> It is connected with a second ethernet card
[18:14] <bincp> Iḿ having an issue with connecting to my VPN at home from my laptop here at work. It has all the information, keys and such, I know vpn works as it works fine from MS side.
[18:14] <unrar> hi
[18:14] <utu-san> john__: connect both pc to a switch and then use openssh
[18:14] <john__> The first car is fine I am getting no throughput throght the second I installed today
[18:15] <webnet> quick question. anyone know if there is a package i can install for additional webcam drivers that dont come in the release itself?
[18:15] <OerHeks> !ics
[18:15] <john__> utu-san, I can swich between both with a swith
[18:15] <MrELusiveness> webnet umm generic ones perhaps?
[18:15] <pikaciu> john__ : ifconfig ?
[18:16] <john__> utu-san, I have belkin swich which swiches keyboard, mouse, screen and sound from one machine to the other with  press of a button
[18:17] <webnet> MrELusiveness possibly? im not really sure my Acer aspire webcam hasnt worked since 10.10 but i never really needed it until now since i installed skype. it used to though so im assuming a package was removed that enabled it
[18:17] <utu-san> john__: I'm talking about as network switch, like a router
[18:17] <MrELusiveness> webnet the best you can do is see if its listed in suported hardware
[18:17] <john__> utu-san, it is a unshielede twisted pair
[18:18] <john__> utu-san, shouldn't need a router
[18:18] <MrELusiveness> sometimes a alternate or generic drive can work
[18:18] <MrELusiveness> er driver
[18:19] <MrELusiveness> webnet is this a standalone cam or a notebook cam?
[18:19] <webnet> MrELusiveness i looked for it. my model isnt shown as supported, but the actual hardware webcam is the same as the  AspireOne netbook which IS supported. perhaps i have a hardware error and not a software one :/
[18:19] <webnet> its a notebook cma
[18:19] <webnet> *cam
[18:19] <MrELusiveness> yeah when it comes to notebooks, it can be a pain
[18:20] <MrELusiveness> you would have better luck with a universal usb one
[18:20] <webnet> i fugured as much
[18:20] <webnet> i bought one for my desktop. guess ill just have to transfer it back and forth. lol
[18:20] <MrELusiveness> but looking up hard supprt of the notebook might bring you more info
[18:20] <john__> utu-san, syour comment?
[18:21] <MrELusiveness> my insipre dell notebook reciently got support for its built in wifi now it rocks
[18:21] <john__> utu-san, a web page, something?
[18:21] <john__> utu-san, I have been trying all day and I am still nowhere..
[18:21] <MrELusiveness> acer stuff always scares me
[18:22] <Spr1ng> I've been impressed with the quality of their hardware over recent years.  Also, their customer service is amazing.
[18:22] <v0lksman> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Convert_a_single_drive_system_to_RAID
[18:22] <MrELusiveness> specialy if it says acer on the notebook anywhere :D
[18:22] <v0lksman> following that to convert a system.  Lost at the Grub2 part
[18:22] <v0lksman> do I need to do anything?
[18:22] <v0lksman> insmod mdraid
[18:22] <v0lksman> I thought grub2 was pretty automagic
[18:23] <MrELusiveness> Dude its a dell   yeah that sounds better
[18:23] <MrELusiveness> heh
[18:23] <delac> I always seem to get some terminal output when I log out. Any way to prevent that and just show  the dots?
[18:23] <MrELusiveness> or Dude its a Asus
[18:24] <dtigue> I just got a free Core I7, with an ASUS mother board, and 3 gigs of RAM. I'm so happy
[18:24] <MrELusiveness> that is cool
[18:24] <MrELusiveness> cant beat free
[18:25] <dtigue> MrELusiveness: A customer of ours asked us to recycle the machine cause they didn't want to spend the money to replace the graphics card
[18:26] <MrELusiveness> LOL
[18:26] <_Bier> how do i hide the dock? ubuntu 12.10 64bit
[18:26] <MrELusiveness> i would be like THANK YOU
[18:26] <bazhang> !ot
[18:26] <MrELusiveness> please come again
[18:26] <bazhang> lets get back on topic Please
[18:26] <xangua> _Bier: in the Apearance settings you can set it to hide
[18:27] <_Bier> yeah auto hide, but not completely gone?
[18:27] <dtigue> _Bier: right click on the background and select to change background, then select the 'behavior' tab
[18:27] <v0lksman> any grub2 love on adding raid support?
[18:28] <_Bier> dtigue: but that only says auto hide, i mean really hide?
[18:28] <dtigue> _Bier: from there you just need to turn on auto hide
[18:28] <_Bier> or is that impossible
[18:28] <MrELusiveness> Vivid I am wondering if the porblems ive been having with ubuntu and wine isnt something that just related to the game i was trying to run. I dont tink my ubuntu install is corrupted or loaded up. is there way to check the health of a ubuntu install?
[18:28] <dtigue> what do you mean "really" hide?\
[18:28] <_Bier> i can put it on really low and that works
[18:28] <bazhang> MrELusiveness, checked the appdb?
[18:29] <MrELusiveness> yeah
[18:29] <dtigue> _Bier: yea also my wife sets the reveal location to the top left hand corner
[18:29] <MrELusiveness> they are behind on patches
[18:29] <bazhang> http://appdb.winehq.org MrELusiveness
[18:29] <MrELusiveness> i know that
[18:29] <bazhang> help in #winehq MrELusiveness
[18:29] <MrELusiveness> what i need to knwo is if there is a way to check the health of a current ubuntu install
[18:30] <MrELusiveness> no not help with wine
[18:30] <MrELusiveness> help with ubuntu
[18:30] <TommehM> Music is refusing to play on every single player I try, it just sticks at 0:00
[18:30] <MrELusiveness> do you have all cdecs installed that are needed?
[18:30] <MrELusiveness> codecs
[18:31] <dtigue> TommehM: what kind of music file are you trying to play, and have you installed the codecs to play it ?
[18:31] <TommehM> I have tried .mp3 and .flac
[18:31] <TommehM> I used to be able to play them.
[18:32] <MrELusiveness> on ubuntu software center TommehM try installing ubuntu restricted extras
[18:32] <TommehM> Okay.
[18:33] <dtigue> TommehM: I bet you need the codecs installed. Try running 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras'
[18:33] <MrELusiveness> or search for codec on there
[18:33] <MrELusiveness> its comes up either way
[18:33] <webnet> MrELusiveness yeah i hear you on Acer stuff. haha i only bought mine cause the price was right $200 because it was a display case model. :D behind glass its whole like but no packaging / manual or win7 recovery CD so i was like cant pass tht up :D
[18:34] <MrELusiveness> right
[18:34] <MrELusiveness> :)
[18:34] <dtigue> TommehM: I'm not sure but you may also need to install non-free-codecs, in a terminal try 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras non-free-codecs'
[18:34] <webnet> im really considering one of those System76 Machines Next
[18:34] <webnet> they look super nice :D
[18:34] <dtigue> webnet: System76 has some beautiful machines
[18:35] <webnet> so expensive tho dtigue :X
[18:35] <cloudrf> xeoma wont load
[18:35] <PowerTux> hi, i send 2 printers job, it delayed 10 seconds to start to print each sheet
[18:35] <MrELusiveness> TOmmehM  the ubuntu restricted extras is what I use
[18:35] <dtigue> webnet: unfortunately so, but at least you will be supporting the cause
[18:35] <PowerTux> i notice cupsdSetBusyState: newbusy="Printing jobs and dirty files", busy="Printing jobs and dirty files"
[18:36] <webnet> thats for sure dtigue thats the other reason i like them :)
[18:36] <dtigue> webnet: i work for a computer company so I just always build my own machines out of the inventory room
[18:36] <MrELusiveness> everything iam using is free
[18:36] <MrELusiveness> like it should be
[18:36] <PowerTux> anyone knows what happend ?
[18:36] <webnet> dtigue lucky :D
[18:36] <bazhang> !ot | dtigue webnet
[18:36] <TommehM> MrELusiveness, dtigue, Installing "Ubuntu Restricted Extras" has worked, thanks! :>
[18:36] <dtigue> webnet: if i were to buy a prebuilt machine i would go with system76 more than likely
[18:36] <dtigue> TommehM: glad you got it working
[18:36] <webnet> bazhang sorry
[18:36] <MrELusiveness> np TommehM
[18:37] <MrELusiveness> works great on 64bit 12.04 sofar
[18:38] <dtigue> PowerTux: what is exactly the problem? that its taking awhile to print?
[18:39] <MrELusiveness> anyoenhad fun with a ubuntu studio os install yet?
[18:39] <PowerTux> dtigue: its too slow, before that it was mandriva and its fast normal...
[18:40] <PowerTux> dtigue: so i´ve install ubuntu 12.04 and after that its slow
[18:40] <kanha> angela: hi
[18:40] <tomahack> Holaaaa
[18:40] <dtigue> PowerTux: what drivers are you using and how is it connected to the machine ?
[18:40] <MrELusiveness> PowerTux is your printer listed as supported?
[18:40] <keithzg> dtigue & webnet: I've inherited an older (original generation) System76 Lemur from my sister . . . at this point if I ever buy another laptop it's almost definitely going to be one of theirs.  I am running 12.10 on wubi with Windows 8, I am trying to get extended attributes on /.
[18:41] <OerHeks> !es | tomahack
[18:41] <dtigue> PowerTux: and what make/model of printer
[18:41] <bkfitz> anyone know how to block a range of ip addresses with ufw
[18:41] <PowerTux> MrELusiveness: i was using mandriva...
[18:41] <MrELusiveness> si wubi a emu?
[18:42] <dtigue> bkfitz: http://www.guyrutenberg.com/2009/11/07/blocking-ip-range-using-ufw/
[18:42] <MrELusiveness> yeah you gotta man up and use ubuntu but make sure the printer is listed as suported hardware
[18:42] <gpmanrpi> wubi is just a way to use windows bootloader and load a file on ntfs partition as a loop device
[18:42] <PowerTux> dtigue: i have 2 models: HP LaserJet 1020, hpcups 3.12.2 and HP LaserJet Professional p1102w, hpcups 3.12.2
[18:42] <MrELusiveness> if you end up using a generic usb driver then your chances of high performance is lowered
[18:42] <PowerTux> dtigue: it was working well on Mandriva 2009...
[18:42] <PowerTux> dtigue: the same printers and machine...
[18:43] <MrELusiveness> but thats a different distro and might have been a different driver
[18:43] <dtigue> PowerTux: but was it the same driver?
[18:43] <dtigue> PowerTux: are you using PostScript drivers, PCL5? or what
[18:43] <PowerTux> dtigue: hum, i dont remember, but i tried with the foomatics too and the same...
[18:44] <arthur_> guys, quick question here. just installed 12.10 not five minutes ago. went to reddit in firefox and there was a prompt that i quickly clicked. now I have a reddit icon on the side and looks like it's also connected to the mail thing up top. how can i get rid of that?
[18:44] <PowerTux> dtigue: PPD file...
[18:44] <MrELusiveness> ubuntu is pretty good with support on most usb devices but if it isnt listed as suported, well you know....
[18:45] <MrELusiveness> what model is the printer Powertux?
[18:45] <MrELusiveness> i need a model #
[18:45] <dtigue> PowerTux: I would try removing the setup you got now and try setting it up using the PCL5 drivers, also see what the "recommended" driver is when installing it
[18:45] <PowerTux> MrELusiveness:  i have 2 models: HP LaserJet 1020, hpcups 3.12.2 and HP LaserJet Professional p1102w, hpcups 3.12.2
[18:46] <MrELusiveness> so its a hp 1020 then?
[18:46] <MrELusiveness> ill look it up
[18:46] <dtigue> one of them is
[18:46] <MrELusiveness> wich one is it you ened to wkring right?
[18:46] <TJ-> PowerTux: Via the Ubuntu mailing-lists someone reported a very similar problem. Eventually they were pointed to this forums solution http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1721595
[18:47] <bkfitz> dtigue: so this will allow from what range of ip addreses: sudo ufw allow from <IP_ADDRESS>/24 - <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[18:47] <bkfitz> dtigue: what if I want to ban <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:47] <keithzg> bkfitz: no, that should allow basically 192.168.1.*
[18:47] <MrELusiveness> Powertux those model #'s apear to be form some older printers
[18:48] <MrELusiveness> er from
[18:48] <vivid> MrELusiveness, they are not behind on patches.  wine is released every two weeks.  wait until the next release
[18:48] <dtigue> arthur_: you still there ?
[18:48] <bkfitz> keithzg: what is the 24?
[18:48] <dtigue> arthur_: try in the terminal 'sudo apt-get remove unity-webapps-reddit'
[18:49] <arthur_> yep, still here
[18:49] <dtigue> arthur_: ^^ did you try my previous message
[18:49] <arthur_> dtigue: will try that, right now the terminal is doing it's thing for wine
[18:49] <MrELusiveness> iam not seeing drivers pop right up for those printers Powertux
[18:49] <dtigue> arthur_: you can open a tab in the terminal
[18:50] <dtigue> arthur_: unless its installing something using apt
[18:50] <PowerTux> MrELusiveness: have foomatics and hplip etc
[18:50] <MrELusiveness> Vivid i was talking about the current patch of ddo and how the app data base has no info on it yet
[18:50] <arthur_> dtigue: yup, still installing wine
[18:51] <arthur_> and i don't have that good a conneciton
[18:51] <vivid> MrELusiveness, the appdb relies on users to submit data.  ddo is not an extremely popular game, thus its likely nobody has played/submitted information
[18:51] <vivid> however, you can submit test data if you like
[18:51] <MrELusiveness> PowerTux yeah it maybe that you are using well ending up with a diffrent drive other than what would run it better
[18:51] <PowerTux> MrELusiveness: older printers should work well, shouldn´t it ?
[18:51] <llutz> bkfitz: <IP_ADDRESS>/24  = network <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:51] <MrELusiveness> only if they dont stop support of them or go to limited
[18:52] <llutz> bkfitz: its cidr-notation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classless_Inter-Domain_Routing
[18:52] <MrELusiveness> OO
[18:52] <PowerTux> i will try PCL5 drivers dtigue, thanks a lot
[18:53] <MrELusiveness> Excuse me Divid???? not popular???  dont be so sure. more peoiple are running it via windows who dont know better :D but anyhow back to ubuntu
[18:53] <bkfitz> llutz: thx
[18:53] <mllie> How do I see if the memory is used by cache or if it actually is used`?
[18:53] <MrELusiveness> my hp j4540 is supported on ubuntu 12.04 LTS no problem
[18:54] <llutz> bkfitz: <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS> would be <IP_ADDRESS>/16