[02:04] <bersace> kwwii: hi
[02:05] <bersace> kwwii: you should use the same logo for splash too
[02:05] <kwwii> bersace: sabdfl wants me to use the official logo
[02:05] <bersace> ?
[02:05] <bersace> what is the official logo ?
[02:05] <bersace> why only on the session splash ?
[02:06] <kwwii> no idea why, but that is what he wants
[02:06] <bersace> the one on the stickers ?
[02:06] <kwwii> yepp, the one with the lozenge behind it
[02:06] <kwwii> (since it is shown on a darker background)
[02:19] <bersace> well, i don't see a lozenge behind the stickers i have
[02:19] <kwwii> lol
[02:19] <kwwii> well, it could also be the simple logo, but the white thing behind it is imprtant if it is shown on a darker bg
[02:20] <kwwii> perhaps I could include the normal logo without the white part
[02:20] <kwwii> haven't tried that yet
[02:20] <kwwii> when I showed mark the first version (with the 3d logo from gdm) he said definitely not
[02:31] <bersace> the truth is that the gdm logo does not fit well on that tiny size
[02:51] <troy_s> more of the same
[04:45] <nzk> Hey everyone
[05:37] <troy_s> nzk greets
[06:05] <vdepizzol> hello
[01:23] <cla> hello
[03:17] <troy_s> greets all
[03:21] <cla> hey troy_s
[03:21] <cla> you are leader, yes?
[03:22] <troy_s> uh no
[03:22] <troy_s> cla what is your question howevr
[03:22] <troy_s> cla i can probably help you.
[03:24] <cla> i would like to get involved in artwork for other distro, so i would like to know from more experienced how to start such project
[03:27] <troy_s> I am pretty certain that you ask a question that _everyone_ would have an 'answer' to.
[03:27] <troy_s> My personal feeling is that you should probably model your workflow on techniques that are tried and true in the 'other' world :)
[03:28] <troy_s> Grab a good book and start with that.  Deal with the critical elements out of the gate (concept/audience) etc.
[03:29] <troy_s> cla:  Does that help?
[03:30] <cla> i would rahter want to get some ideas
[03:31] <cla> becouse my artwork is generally wallpapers and/or icons
[03:31] <troy_s> Ideas pertaining to what?  Concept?  Etc?
[03:32] <cla> so i would like to know what more can be done
[03:33] <troy_s> Well again, everyone has their opinions on it.  Personally I would start with the critical two points:
[03:33] <troy_s> 1) Who are you speaking to communicate with?  Who is your audience?
[03:33] <troy_s> 2) What do you seek to communicate?
[03:34] <troy_s> 2 is tricky -- as when you say something like 'cool' or 'blah', you often need to ask further questions as to 'how' to communicate such a loose term.
[03:34] <troy_s> Pull in some examples from other disciplines that you believe 'speak' close to what you want to communicate and see what techniques / tricks they are using and consider them for your project.
[03:35] <cla> mhm
[03:35] <troy_s> cla:  I would strongly recommend a good introductory art and design book if you want to take this sort of thing seriously.
[03:35] <cla> that's why i came here
[03:35] <troy_s> cla: Bear in mind that Ubuntu does not do this ;)
[03:35] <cla> troy_s: well, graphic is my hobby
[03:36] <troy_s> cla: So read everything I type with caution.
[03:36] <troy_s> cla: If you want to see what some would consider a decent attempt at such a process, have a look at the newer Fedora work.
[03:37] <troy_s> It uses the motifs of night and balloons with Diana offering a bit of her communication goals by basing the theme on those two motifs.
[03:37] <cla> ok
[03:37] <troy_s> Motifs, to many, are a critical element of design.
[03:37] <troy_s> They are used in traditional design, film making, sound design, etc.
[03:39] <cla> brb
[03:55] <bersace> hi all
[03:56] <bersace> I would like to have your comments on the response i got for bug 93379
[03:56] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 93379 in Ubuntu "Luminosity popup is at wrong place" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/93379
[11:36] <alefteris> hi everyone, how can i stroke the page in inkscape? for example make a 1px border inside the page area..
[11:40] <alefteris> troy_s, hi
[11:42] <TheSheep_> alefteris: is it a trick question? rectangles generally work fine for that...
[11:43] <alefteris> thought it could be an easy way to do it :) how can i make a rectancle fit exacly the page area and then stroke the inside by 1px?
[11:44] <TheSheep_> alefteris: well, I'd use large zoom when adjusting, maybe enable snapping to grid too
[11:51] <alefteris> thanks TheSheep_


[12:17] <ara> ev, the new partitioner in ubiquity looks great :)
[12:20] <ev> ara: thanks!
[14:43] <CIA-3> debian-installer: cjwatson * r1416 ubuntu/debian/changelog: No-change rebuild against udev-udeb 166-0ubuntu2.
[14:46] <CIA-3> debian-installer: cjwatson * r1417 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20101020ubuntu18
[15:28] <CIA-3> partman-auto: evand * r590 ubuntu/ (automatically_partition/reuse/choices debian/changelog):
[15:28] <CIA-3> partman-auto: Don't explode on unpartitioned space in the reuse option (LP:
[15:28] <CIA-3> partman-auto: #722198).
[15:29] <ev> superm1: basically, I'm an idiot ^
[16:05] <superm1> at least it's an easy fix ;)
[16:29] <ev> heh
[16:53] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r4516 trunk/ (debian/changelog desktop/ubiquity-gtkui.desktop.in): Do not show the installer in dbusmneu. Thanks Ken VanDine!
[16:55] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r4517 trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
[16:55] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Install a composite-enabled graphics driver when the third-party
[16:55] <CIA-3> ubiquity: software option is checked.
[16:57] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r4518 trunk/debian/real-po/ (63 files): debconf-updatepo
[17:06] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r4519 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.5.17
[17:18] <cheche> Hi, has anyone seen this problem: Add d-i debian-installer/locale string whatever
[17:19] <cheche> after the instalation when finished the dbusd process is too high.
[17:19] <cheche> remove d-i debian-installer/locale from preseeed.cfg and then the system runs ok
[17:53] <superm1> ev, you forgot to update partman-auto in that upload
[17:54] <ev> ah, I hadn't waited long enough for the publisher actually
[18:00] <superm1> isn't there some trick to do it ahead of publisher too?  I'm guessing just wedging the source package in place and manually prodding the manifest
[18:07] <cjwatson> cd d-i; mv manifest manifest.old; wedge source package in place; ./update-control; ./update-changelog; adjust changelog to read smoothly, in case there were other d-i updates too
[18:09] <ev> oh absolutely, I missed it because my mind blanked and I wasn't even watching out for the partman build
[22:29] <cheche> Hi, I am using preseed to install new systems, and I have my own mirror so it gets faster to install. I want to ensure that ubuntu-resticted-extras gets installed as well.
[22:29] <cheche> What is the best to achive this?
[22:29] <cheche> shoould I download all the fonts exe and rsync to the new systems?
[23:54] <CIA-3> ubiquity: superm1 * r4520 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[23:54] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: partman-auto
[23:54] <CIA-3> ubiquity: 93ubuntu6.
[23:54] <CIA-3> ubiquity: superm1 * r4521 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.5.18