[08:57] <cjwatson> psivaa: Before you ask :-), yes, I'm looking at the across-the-board server/desktop image failures
[08:57] <cjwatson> I expect that's due to the new syslinux
[08:58] <cjwatson> Although that's only in -proposed, so maybe not ...
[08:58] <psivaa> cjwatson: ack, thanks. saw the failure during the weekend could not look into see if there is any issues on our side
[09:00] <cjwatson> mm, the failure predates the new syslinux
[09:03] <infinity> cjwatson: I self-accepted my grub2-signed SRU up there.  Figured it was a no-brainer.
[09:03] <cjwatson> Yeah, no problem
[09:03] <infinity> cjwatson: (After seeing smb, who had -proposed enabled, get his signed grub torn out on upgrade :P)
[09:03] <cjwatson> Would've done but you beat me to it
[09:03] <cjwatson> (accepted, I mean)
[09:04] <infinity> cjwatson: Things like this definitely make a solid argument for "we really need britney gating SRUs too".
[09:04] <infinity> cjwatson: Cause if no one had noticed, we might have released with the skew.
[09:04] <cjwatson> Yep, no argument there
[09:05] <infinity>  /win 250
[09:05] <infinity> Erm.
[09:06] <infinity> Also, argh, I'm still auto-voiced.
[09:06] <infinity> cjwatson: Do you remember what you did to ChanServ to make that happen, and can you reverse it? :P
[09:06] <cjwatson> will do
[09:06]  * apw has become quite attached to your yellow +
[09:07] <infinity> I thought devoicing myself via chanserv last time I noticed would be enough, but apparently there's some extra trickery afoot.
[09:07] <infinity> Or, I'm stuck being voiced forever.  I dunno. ;)
[09:08] <cjwatson> Should stick now (I told chanserv about it first)
[09:08] <infinity> Ta.  We'll see the next time I lose connectivity.
[09:38] <cjwatson> psivaa: Hm, it actually installs just fine locally.  The syslog (https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/utopic-server-amd64-smoke-default/19/artifact/log/utah-23211.syslog.log/*view*/) shows that the installer stops because it's prompting whether to unmount an active partition on /dev/vda.  Has something changed in the testbed setup?
[09:39] <cjwatson> Not sure whether desktop is the same thing; http://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/utopic-desktop-amd64-smoke-default/20/artifact/log/utah-23213.syslog.log/*view*/ kind of just stops
[09:41] <psivaa> cjwatson: the host was upgraded from precise to trusty is the change that i know of
[09:42] <psivaa> cjwatson: the host where the tests run i mean
[09:43] <cjwatson> psivaa: Could be, yes.  Can I kick this back to you folks for now, since the image itself looks OK to me?
[09:44] <psivaa> cjwatson: yes, thanks for looking at it. i'll try to look into it and ask doanac to look at it if i can't
[09:46] <cjwatson> Thanks
[10:01] <michagogo> infinity: Why wait to lose connectivity? Why not just /cycle?
[10:02] <michagogo> (but yes, your flags now appear to be +Aiostv, so you shouldn't be autovoiced)
[10:15] <stgraber> Laney: the extra space in the name of the product in qa-products will cause a failure to publish on iso.qa.ubuntu.com, you probably want to fix that
[10:16] <Laney> I want to fix all things :)
[10:17] <Laney> well spotted
[10:17] <cjwatson> Laney: also typo "ubuntu-deskto-next"
[10:17] <Laney> got it
[12:11] <psivaa> cjwatson: so jfyi, the issue in the desktop/server installations is that there is a utah bug (bug #1199349) hitting us because the host is trusty. we should workaround that and get the tests going soon
[12:11] <psivaa> bug #1199349
[12:11] <cjwatson> Got it, thanks
[12:12] <psivaa> ty :)
[12:12] <cjwatson> The debian-installer/exit/poweroff workaround won't work with desktop, FYI
[12:12] <cjwatson> (Also doesn't seem desperately related to the logs I saw, but I may be missing something)
[12:13] <psivaa> yea, the logs indicate that /dev/vda is mounted because it was the second round of installations in the loop
[12:13] <cjwatson> Ah, right
[12:14] <cjwatson> Makes sense, obscure to track down :)
[12:14] <psivaa> cjwatson: yea, mislead us for a bit :)
[12:14] <psivaa> cjwatson: is there an equivalent preseed line for the above, btw?
[12:15] <psivaa> for desktop that is
[12:15] <cjwatson> No.
[12:16] <cjwatson> Actually, maybe ubiquity/poweroff would do it
[12:17] <psivaa> cjwatson: ack, thx. let me try that
[12:17] <cjwatson> ubiquity ubiquity/poweroff boolean true
[12:17] <psivaa> ack
[13:41] <jpds> Can someone poke ima-evm-utils out of NEW?
[17:24] <bdmurray> for the record I'm updating the meta-release files with quantal as unsupported
[19:55] <infinity> bdmurray: Ta.  That's a lie from LP's POV until I close the release (which I'm doing after the last kernel goes in, since we already took the effort to spin it).
[19:56] <infinity> bdmurray: But from the "do we support it anymore?" POV, that's correct, so thanks. :)
[21:21] <rcj> stgraber, Would you have a few minutes to talk about the SRU in bug #1275656.  This is regarding the port of trusty's open-vm-tools to precise as a new package for HWE support
[21:21] <rcj> The packages have been uploaded already.
[21:25] <stgraber> rcj: not right now, I'm about to head to bed here (temporarily in Europe before the Malta sprint next week)
[21:27] <rcj> stgraber, np.  Thanks for the reply.


[16:07] <blackboxsw> falcojr: I'm finally going through your pr, will have minor unrelated suggestions on https://github.com/canonical/pycloudlib/pull/148/files. Just testing to confirm
[16:17] <blackboxsw> falcojr: also I know I'm way late to this discussion and we've brought it up in standup multiple times, this branch is essentially doing away with a restart primitive, and making "restart" just a wrapper for shutdown(wait=True)/start. Generally, I don't think this really matters, but it does exercise a slightly different path on a platform. shutdown/start on a platform != restart.    So, we could be exposed to something there on a
[16:17] <blackboxsw> platform by not using the discrete restart operation on a given cloud.
[16:18] <falcojr> blackboxsw: right, I'm out backing that part out (I intentionally did it as a separate commit) if we think that's going to cause problems
[16:18] <blackboxsw> on first blush, I don't really honestly believe its a problem, but it's a blind spot in pycloudlib cloud operations if we don't use the cloud/platform-specific restart operation.
[16:19] <blackboxsw> falcojr: " I'm out backing that part out" is not parsing for me
[16:19] <blackboxsw> *ok*? or *not*
[16:19] <blackboxsw> :)
[16:20] <blackboxsw> maybe paride also has more context on the ec2instance.restart in pycloudlib as he most recently extended the error handling there.
[16:21] <blackboxsw> I have a suggestion for lxc.restart if were keeping platform-specific restart logic intact where applicable
[16:26] <falcojr> blackboxsw: sorry, meant to say "I'm fine backing that part out"
[17:05] <shalok> Is there a comprehensive reference for the cloud-config? I've found lots of examples, but these don't appear to use all of the supported configs.
[17:06] <falcojr> shalok: https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/modules.html should be what you're looking for
[18:05] <blackboxsw> shalok: other significant  examples are @ https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/examples.html
[18:06] <shalok> Yeah, I've mostly been relying on those examples. The modules docs is more what I was looking for.
[18:40] <blackboxsw> falcojr: trying to work on the patch for your pycloudlib branch. about ~30 mins left. I'm re-running ua-client integration tests on lxc to see performance improvement/check for failures
[19:05] <blackboxsw> falcojr: done review posted https://github.com/canonical/pycloudlib/pull/148#pullrequestreview-676584230
[19:05] <blackboxsw> see what you think
[20:51] <powersj> https://christine.website/blog/cloud-init-2021-06-04
[20:57] <Xe> powersj: that's my article yeah!
[20:58] <powersj> awesome - thanks for the write up. :) I like coming across folks who are trying out cloud-init and see where we can do better
[20:58] <Xe> the documentation could use some love, but i'm probably doing an obscure thing
[21:01] <powersj> I think a good majority of folks are interacting with cloud-init via a cloud itself and less so via qemu, but that said I wrote a post on this very thing last week after co-workers asked me to: https://powersj.io/posts/ubuntu-qemu-cli/ so I woulnd't say it is too obscure :)
[21:03] <Xe> oh, that post
[21:03] <Xe> i used it as reference when i was getting stuff working for the first time!
[21:05] <powersj> ha :)
[22:24] <haitch> "cloud-init analyze blame" gives me multiple boot record for a single boot
[22:25] <haitch> is this common and anyone know how can I troubleshoot this?
[22:32] <rharper> haitch: not common,  but in the past we've had some log formatting issues on different OSes which have cloud-init installed but different logging configurations for cloud-init configured.  If you can, use paste.ubuntu.com to capture your output, and maybe /var/lib/cloud-init.log ;   boot records are found by looking for the various times with cloud-init is invoked;  so if the system is running cloud-init init command outside of
[22:32] <rharper> booting, you may see more records as they get appended to the log file that's parsed by cloud-init analyze
[22:56] <haitch> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SZ6xsRzKC4/
[22:57] <haitch> I confirmed just have 1 real VM boot
[23:20] <rharper> oh, I know what this is ..
[23:21] <rharper> on azure, they pre-provision VMs, so they're launched and then paused, then when they're needed, they wake up and resume the rest of boot;      that said, I thought we had  a bug to fix the parsing of cloud-init.log for analyze ... it'd be good to file one just to track the issue;


[00:46] <Phixyn> Package linuxcnc does not exist in bionic
[00:46] <Phixyn> stevendale: yw
[00:46] <Phixyn> stevendale: MS Office published their document format.
[01:25] <chetan-BW> if you are saying the level of robustness should be considered according to dka's actual needs, I obviously couldn't agree more.
[01:25] <chetan-BW> b -> (b, b)
[01:25] <chetan-BW> hey Urnie[emacs]
[01:25] <chetan-BW> hey, I accidentally typed text in the wrong keyboard..
[04:16] <c0ll1sionhv> well i hope they found out
[04:17] <c0ll1sionhv> But this european laptop has somekind of bios protection so my ubuntu grub wont ever launch and always starts windows, the bios looks very simple but i dont know what to do so my grub boots so i can boot ubuntu
[04:17] <c0ll1sionhv> http://dilbert.com/strip/1995-06-24
[04:17] <c0ll1sionhv> twkm, i dunno. I am doing something similar and I am getting the same results.
[04:17] <c0ll1sionhv> forgotmynick: checkout multitail
[04:17] <c0ll1sionhv> the solution is mc
[06:27] <aakvikkn> no plot output, LED changes colour erratically. that's only if I call it with the third argument as true timemage
[06:27] <aakvikkn> it's time for his bath
[06:27] <aakvikkn> ok i see
[07:23] <pescobargG> religion? philosophy? oath?
[07:23] <pescobargG> but at the point that he is so locked into atheism that he will admit to the possibility of something with zero evidence without admiting to another possibility with zero evidence... that's just stupid.
[07:23] <pescobargG> yea I had a hell of a time with 550's i couldn't imagine a 3600 or 4100 alone
[07:23] <pescobargG> 「C code- 235 lines - codepad」
[07:23] <pescobargG>  in saying it.
[07:23] <pescobargG> swift110: Please don't randomly invite me to channels. That's called, spamming.
[07:46] <MyrsloikLL> printf -v str %s {A..Z}{a..z}{0..9}; printf %s "${str::2700}"
[07:46] <MyrsloikLL> i noticed openbazaar just pivotted to allow coin listings, making it one of the highest usercounts DEX in one go
[08:39] <PhilSliderSeQ> that seemed too out of character for someone who is, seemingly, an associate prof of math
[08:39] <PhilSliderSeQ> so say, bash.
[09:00] <garplyhL> Even though I asked for UEFI...
[09:01] <garplyhL> johnnny22: post it to list
[09:01] <garplyhL> there is some feedback across the primary and secondary sides which needs to work
[09:08] <drawkswx> JohnMS_WORK: have you seen git status print stuff like "your branch is ahead by two commits" or something like that?
[09:08] <drawkswx> Viper-7: they meant "for virgins" obviously
[09:08] <drawkswx> unyu: dont read Hatcher do Rotman
[09:08] <drawkswx> maybe using a temp table doesn't incur that much extra overhead anyways
[09:08] <drawkswx> Ice Lake cores should come out next year with silicone fix for meltdown/spectre... good time to upgrade :)
[11:47] <kurinbv> Inline: but that is if you want to define even and oddness via increments, defining it by division, and extrapolating the consequences of those leads to the quagmire we find ourselves in
[11:47] <kurinbv> That's the point though. With enough money you can pay people do stick to jobs they hate.
[11:47] <kurinbv> https://askubuntu.com/questions/59007/defragging-ntfs-partitions-from-linux
[13:19] <TamwynkE> Well it won't solve your current immediate requirement, you will need to kind of see that through and then switch to a new workflow so that you don't encounter it in the future again.
[13:19] <TamwynkE> wait, how does <|> use liftA2?
[14:11] <urdhUa> leosemilie, and you don't fix dependent libraries with snap, sorry. you need to have them one way or another
[14:11] <urdhUa> MrHands13: You are here in #fedora-unregistered because you are not registered or identified with freenode. See https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration or /msg nickserv help register for more information.
[14:11] <urdhUa> The fact that nobody ever saw or interacted with upstart in any way does not matter to the argument here, because... a package is installed.
[14:45] <ammazza> !ask | jamessp007
[14:45] <ammazza> PlanckWalk: oh sorry, i did mean 'x' was the basis, then it gets multiplied by each element of GF(2^2) to generate the set of all possible vectors in that subspace
[14:45] <ammazza> gbobby: there was doubt?
[14:45] <ammazza> has anyone here used a W5100 ethernet module and powered an arduino via POE?
[14:46] <ammazza> it's not about eugenics
[16:48] <riot_dd_> better in what way
[16:48] <riot_dd_> how much marones went to "donation" exactly?
[16:49] <riot_dd_> suᥒ is ᥒоt ԁoiᥒg Ꭺllаh iѕ doiᥒg
[16:49] <riot_dd_> Linux is the greatest kernel known to man
[16:49] <riot_dd_> imagine giving them just
[16:49] <riot_dd_> anti theft backpacks?
[17:26] <dunnousernamefn> someone said somethign and I was reading it regarding my NFS mount issue and getting io errors and didn't get to read it all
[17:26] <dunnousernamefn> johnjay: -vs- SysV empty shell script
[18:18] <lufipe> zero4 : printf | tee file
[18:18] <lufipe> cool :>
[18:18] <lufipe> kvm support is built into the Linux kernel
[21:31] <olce> \x's password 0 1 2 3 4 got it
[21:31] <olce> cocreature: I have ideas where I /could/ use it, but those are a bit of "I proved (empirically) this use of Int is correct"
[21:31] <olce> Archelaus: you're welcome :)
[21:31] <olce> boot into your latest kernel, run lsmod again
[21:36] <tspAZ> PassSack
[21:37] <tspAZ> it used the --remote option then it properly did it from upstream, I was not in master, I was on another branch that I need to push to downstream now
[21:37] <tspAZ> btw I like Schiller's recollection of that in Levy's Infinite Loop article
[23:04] <Lee-fN> Scorpion2185, where is the source code to the kernel mmodule?
[23:04] <Lee-fN> the US's nukes still run on IBM mainframes and 5" diskettes
[23:04] <Lee-fN> memtest is something you boot into, it's like a very small bootable os kernel that does nothing but tests ram and displays results
[23:04] <Lee-fN>  DPN 32490 splits and half of it drives out
[23:04] <Lee-fN> yosuo: that's just a pool redirector
[23:25] <karuDG> y0da-: maybe you don't have the universe repo enabled then, would be my guess.
[23:25] <karuDG> right, and git should have complained that it couldn't push?
[23:25] <karuDG> lots of good guides/examples of it, not for backup spesificly, but for general messaging
[23:25] <karuDG> yeah, under any app load you're gonna be swapping a LOT
[23:25] <karuDG> dminuoso: It comes from them being placeholders. You can return void. You can't return Void (non-bottom)
[23:25] <karuDG> I mean you guys know im literally at high scool level right?


[02:47] <crazy_bus> I tried the edubuntu addon disk on kubuntu but it loaded nothing.  Is there something I have to do manually?
[02:48] <LaserJock> perhaps
[02:49] <LaserJock> the you might need to ask #kubuntu how to add a CD to your sources.list
[02:50] <crazy_bus> LaserJock: so if I add the cd to my sources list it will work
[02:50] <LaserJock> yeah
[02:50] <LaserJock> the edubuntu addon is basically just a package repository on disk
[02:51] <LaserJock> in Gnome the package installer will automatically find it and open a dialog
[02:51] <LaserJock> but in KDE I'm not sure how to do it
[02:51] <crazy_bus> LaserJock: I though it had a program select gui.  Are there just different packages for different things on the cd?
[02:53] <LaserJock> yeah
[02:54] <LaserJock> there is a gui that comes up so you can select what you want
[02:55] <LaserJock> but the CD itself just has all the packages that are needed to install them
[02:56] <crazy_bus> it wants to download 190mb's.  Is this normal, as I thought most things would be on the cd
[02:56] <LaserJock> crazy_bus: it somewhat depends
[02:56] <LaserJock> it does assume you've installed Ubuntu, not Kubuntu
[02:57] <crazy_bus> so if I add a ubuntu cd into sources I won't have to download anything
[02:57] <LaserJock> yep
[02:58] <crazy_bus> is the edubuntu legacy package meant to be installed?
[02:58] <LaserJock> how do you mean?
[03:00] <crazy_bus> are you meant to install it on 8.04 to get edubuntu programs.  Or is it just for upgrading
[03:00] <LaserJock> yes it's meant to install on 8.04
[03:00] <LaserJock> though you may not want to install it
[03:01] <LaserJock> it's used to get the set of educational programs that we installed in 6.10
[03:01] <LaserJock> during 7.04 we split edubuntu into two disks
[03:02] <LaserJock> so that package was used to help people who had used 6.10 or before
[03:06] <crazy_bus> ok I've added the disk.  Tried to install edubuntu-addon-kde but it still wants to download things like kalzium off the internet.  Is it meant to do this?
[03:07] <LaserJock> hmm, not really
[03:07] <LaserJock> but if packages have been updated since release it might happen
[03:09] <crazy_bus> is there anyway to make a cd which has the newest packages?
[03:09] <LaserJock> you could make a respin
[03:10] <crazy_bus> is that hard to do?
[03:10] <LaserJock> well, not too bad relatively speaking I don't think
[03:11] <LaserJock> I'm not sure if Edubuntu will be included in the 8.04.1 release but that may be something
[03:13] <crazy_bus> thanks for all your answers LaserJock I have to go somewhere now
[08:15] <MrBogus> hello
[15:15] <crazy_bus> I downloaded the ubuntu alt cd so I could install ubuntu-desktop on a computer without internet and thus get edubuntu with the addoncd.  However it doesn't seem to be working.  Is there any reason why it shouldn't?
[20:52] <mattva01> anyone know what could be causing edubuntu to be running dog-slow ( but with only 1% cpu usage)
[21:04] <mattva01> anyone on?
[21:06] <LaserJock> kinda, but I don't really know the answer
[21:27] <johnny> mattva01, i reverted back to the 2.6.22 kernel
[21:27] <johnny> that helped a bit
[21:29] <mattva01> i'll try that
[23:50] <kingair_six> evening everyone, I got a problem here with my themes. I cant activate emerald themes just by clicking on them, neither can I put my visual effects on normal (from disabled), any thoughts on that?


[06:05] <mborzecki> morning
[06:13] <mardy> 'morning!
[06:14] <mvo> good morning mardy
[06:31] <mborzecki> mardy: mvo: hello
[06:31] <mvo> mborzecki: good morning!
[06:31] <mborzecki> mvo: i've tweaked https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/extra-kernel-commandline-arguments-on-uc20/24370 a bit
[06:37] <mvo> mborzecki: awesome, thanks. if you feel it's ready I can publish
[06:39] <mborzecki> mvo: yeah, i think we can publish it, graham will still be able to tweak it as needed
[06:46] <mvo> mborzecki: excellent, I will do a final read and then publish
[06:49] <mborzecki> mvo: thanks! and thanks for starting with the doc
[06:49] <mvo> mborzecki: my pleasure
[06:59] <mvo> mborzecki: looks perfect, thanks for your edits, much clearer this way. I listed it now
[06:59] <mborzecki> mvo: yay, thanks!
[07:08] <pstolowski> morning
[07:14] <mvo> good morning pstolowski
[07:14] <mborzecki> pstolowski: hey
[07:25] <mup> PR snapd#10260 closed: secboot: switch encryption key size to 32 byte (thanks to Chris) <Needs Samuele review> <Run nested> <Squash-merge> <Created by mvo5> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10260>
[07:35] <mup> PR snapd#10263 opened: interfaces: fix linter issues <Created by mardy> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10263>
[08:14] <pedronis> mborzecki: hi, how should I install golangci-lint to try it locally?
[08:28] <mborzecki> pedronis: you can grab it from here: https://github.com/golangci/golangci-lint/releases
[08:28] <mborzecki> or go get, whichever is more convenient
[08:43] <pedronis> mborzecki: I'm probably using it wrong but I'm quite confused by its output, there's a lot of typecheck errors which is not even a linter we list
[08:48] <mborzecki> pedronis: have you checked the PR? https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10082
[08:48] <mup> PR #10082: github: try out golangci-lint <Needs Samuele review> <Simple 😃> <Skip spread> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10082>
[08:49] <pedronis> mborzecki: yes, I'm running it with ~/go/bin/golangci-lint run -c .golangci.yml
[08:49] <pedronis> from that PR
[08:49] <pedronis> maybe I don't even need the -c
[08:50] <pedronis> anyway the output doesn't seem useful, I expected testpackage problems but I don't see any, but I get typecheck problems
[08:50] <mborzecki> hm it shoudl pick up the config from he repo
[08:50] <pedronis> I get the same with -c or without
[08:50] <mborzecki> pedronis: which packages it complains about?
[08:50] <mborzecki> (typecheck specifically)
[08:51] <pedronis> which version were you using?
[08:53] <pedronis> mborzecki: this is the output I'm getting,  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bY6cgdbqrx/ it's rather confusing/useless
[08:53] <mborzecki> pedronis: i have 1.39 built from source directly, let my try the latest master
[08:54] <pedronis> this is 1.40 binary I think
[08:54] <pedronis> golangci-lint has version 1.40.0 built from 5c6adb63 on 2021-05-10T10:45:21Z
[08:55] <pedronis> did they change the config ?
[08:56] <mborzecki> hm 1.40 seems to be working fine here
[08:57] <pedronis> anyway if I can't make it work I'm kind of -1 on it
[08:59] <pedronis> mborzecki: I'm on focal fwiw
[08:59] <mborzecki> pedronis: hm this all i see it complaining about with current master: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sm6BdD9SB9/
[08:59] <pedronis> I get completely different errors
[09:00] <pedronis> did you use go get?
[09:00] <pedronis> as I said I grabbed the binary
[09:00] <mborzecki> pedronis: hm i think mardy is on focal too, but i don't expect it to be a factor here
[09:00] <mborzecki> pedronis: no it's a tarball from the releases page
[09:00] <pedronis> I think I got the same
[09:01] <pedronis> anyway if it's giving different outputs depending on the phase of the moon is not making me very happy
[09:02] <mborzecki> the way i run it is i'm inside the snapd source tree, and then just call `golangci-lint run`, the config file should be picked up automatically
[09:02] <pedronis> yea, I do that
[09:02] <pedronis> I get those other errors
[09:02] <pedronis> I get those errors also if I pass the config explicitly
[09:02] <mborzecki> can you run `golangci-lint run --verbose` ?
[09:03] <mborzecki> pedronis: this is what i get with --verbose: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jsfMJhNdRx/
[09:05] <pedronis> I get the same list of linters, but analyzers has output for example
[09:06] <pedronis> mborzecki: I get Issues before processing: 4033012, after processing: 53
[09:07] <RzR> ogra, hi i am back with my logs "the-tool[207]:  - assertion is signed with expired public key" , I need an RTC module
[09:07] <pedronis> mborzecki: very different:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qhwgqZ8Rg2/
[09:08] <pedronis> mborzecki: ah, maybe I know what I'm doing wrong
[09:08] <mborzecki> pedronis: hm what is it?
[09:08] <pedronis> I might have the gopath set wrong, maybe
[09:09] <mborzecki> also got G111MODULE=off, but not sure that changes anything either
[09:10] <mborzecki> fwiw i was overriding GOPATH, but the tool worked fine with that too
[09:11] <mborzecki> (though the go-pls version i used was unhappy about changing gopath)
[09:12] <mborzecki> pedronis: did you get it to work?
[09:20] <ogra> RzR, i think ijohnson added a fix for that, try the edge channel for image builds
[09:21] <RzR> ogra, I tried edge see my versions
[09:21] <RzR> https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/built-uc20-rasperry-pi-image-hangs-on-boot/23891/22?u=rzr
[09:22] <ogra> ah, sorry, havent checked the forum in 1h or so 🙂
[09:23] <RzR> let me see if I have a RTC module if not I'll rebuild some snaps to update timestamps
[09:23] <pedronis> mborzecki: it worked, I'm not sure what to think about gosimple, it's both right and to naggy, also it's suggesting things that might be wrong if it gets is type analysis wrong
[09:25] <mborzecki> pedronis: the PR sets up the linter to only complain about new things, and the action adds notes rather than review comments, so not a hard fail
[09:28] <pedronis> mborzecki: that sounds annoying in its own ways
[09:28] <pedronis> I mean the added notes
[09:28] <pedronis> I struggle already sometimes with preexisting comments when doing reviews
[09:28] <mardy> pedronis, mborzecki: since running the linter takes ages, I always run it on one package at a time (for example, `golangci-lint run ./interfaces/`)
[09:29] <pedronis> mborzecki: we should probably run it without gosimple and testpackage, at least for a while, especially until we haven't switched to go1.13 everywhere
[09:29] <mborzecki> mardy: results should be cached between runs afaik
[09:34] <pedronis> mborzecki: fwiw it feels slow here too
[09:35] <mborzecki> pedronis: is it slower than runnning each linter separately though? :)
[09:36] <mborzecki> it probably takes a bit longer if you run it on the whole tree, i usually invoke it on the package(s) i modify in the branch
[09:36] <pedronis> mborzecki: anyway I left some comments in the PR
[09:37] <mborzecki> anyways, it's ~15s on the whole tree, vs ~3s after there's some cached data
[09:37] <mborzecki> pedronis: thanks, i'll take a look
[10:35] <RzR> ogra, maybe it also need https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10085
[10:35] <mup> PR #10085:  cmd/snap-bootstrap/initramfs-mounts: move time forward using assertion times (2.49) <Run nested> <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10085>
[10:35] <RzR> mvo, ^
[10:36] <RzR> well not sure i am using 2.50
[10:37] <RzR> sorry for noise, I need to dig deeper
[11:10] <pstolowski> pedronis: hi, i've updated the two refresh-control PRs you commented on yesterday
[11:10] <pedronis> pstolowski: I'll see if I can get back to them today
[11:10] <pedronis> that I also need 2nd reviews though
[11:10] <pedronis> thx
[11:13] <pstolowski> pedronis: i've also updated #10182 and set as ready to review although it probably makes no sense until phase1 is merged
[11:13] <mup> PR #10182: o/snapstate: autorefresh phase1 for refresh-control <Needs Samuele review> <Refresh control> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10182>
[11:13] <mup> Bug #10182: Can not logout of gnome when xcompmgr is running <gnome-panel (Ubuntu):Invalid by fabbione> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/10182>
[11:21] <mup> PR snapd#10252 closed: boot: reseal given keys when the respective boot chain has changed <Needs Samuele review> <Run nested> <Created by bboozzoo> <Merged by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10252>
[11:34] <mborzecki> pedronis: regarding https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10253#discussion_r630320902 i'm not sure we should also blindly add a system to current list, maybe it's better to error out in such case?
[11:34] <mup> PR #10253: boot: helpers for manipulating current and good recovery systems list <Run nested> <⛔ Blocked> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10253>
[11:35] <mborzecki> (also pushed master there, so the diff is smaller)
[11:42] <pedronis> mborzecki: well, we need the various pieces we have to fit together, the issue that we need to be careful with is not to accumulate either tried systems at the end of the list
[11:44] <pedronis> mborzecki: should we chat on this after the standup?
[11:45] <mborzecki> pedronis: hm can we try 1430 maybe? i need to leave at 4 and drop the kids off at school for their training
[11:45] <pedronis> mborzecki: I have another meeting at 14:30
[11:46] <mborzecki> pedronis: ah, ok, let's stay after standup then, we usually make it in half an hour so there should be enough time after
[11:46] <pedronis> thx
[11:50] <mardy> I noticed that we are not setting the NoNewPrivileges flag in snap-confine, because (as it's written in the comments) it breaks some snaps
[11:50] <mardy> do we have some bugs in launchpad to track this?
[11:50] <zyga> mardy no, because there is no point in no new privs there
[11:50] <zyga> snap-confine is a launcher
[11:51] <zyga> IIRC having that would block the launched program from doing what it may genuinely want to do
[11:51] <mup> PR snapd#10227 opened: test read the file from spread <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10227>
[11:51] <mardy> zyga: mmm... maybe that would not be the right place, but I grepped for NO_NEW_PRIV in the snapd source tree, and there's no place where it's set
[11:52] <zyga> right but why do you want to have it?
[11:53] <mardy> zyga: to make sure that a process running in a snap cannot break outside of its confinement
[11:53] <mardy> I just wrote a comment about it in https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8926, please let me know if I'm not getting the story right :-)
[11:53] <mup> PR #8926: interfaces: add microstack-support interface <Needs security review> <Created by dshcherb> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8926>
[12:08] <zyga> mardy your assumption is wrong, basically
[12:08] <zyga> mardy I'm away from snapd development so I won't give you a full explanation now
[12:08] <zyga> but the assumption that permissions are only reduced is incorrect
[12:08] <zyga> there's a bounding box
[12:08] <zyga> but transitions are possible within it
[12:09] <mardy> zyga: but that's a bug, right?
[12:09] <zyga> no
[12:10] <mardy> I mean, in apparmor
[12:10] <mardy> if one sets the NO_NEW_PRIVILEGES flag, one should expect that any child process won't have more permissions that the process that this flag was applied to
[12:21] <mup> PR snapd#10227 closed: test read the file from spread <Created by sergiocazzolato> <Closed by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10227>
[12:30] <mborzecki> ehh mocking is fun `revision 0 is already the current revision`
[12:36] <zyga> mardy I'm really not able to answer in detail beyond "that is not the goal", snap-confine is the entry point to the sandbox that is defined by snapd, an it can be as broad as required
[12:36] <zyga> mardy including not confined at all
[12:36] <zyga> it all plays with the fact that some interfaces are privileged and you cannot just use them
[12:36] <zyga> (at will that is)
[12:44] <jdstrand> mardy and zyga (see amurray): hey, I can't get into this now, but I added a comment to the PR. summary> nnp and apparmor haven't historically played well together, but that's ok wrt to snap interface policy since we have different types of interfaces that can be mediated via snap declarations (again, see the comment)
[14:01] <ijohnson> cachio: hey does this error message mean that core-initrd needs to change the spread URL it is using for spread tests ? https://travis-ci.org/github/snapcore/core-initrd/builds/770716802
[14:02] <cachio> yes
[14:02] <cachio> ijohnson, we should use the one I pasted in the notes
[14:02] <ijohnson> cachio: do you have time to propose a PR to core-initrd fixing the problem ?
[14:02] <cachio> ijohnson, sure
[14:02] <ijohnson> cachio: awesome thank you
[14:03] <ijohnson> the repo is https://github.com/snapcore/core-initrd/blob/main/spread.yaml
[14:06] <mup> PR snapd#10248 closed: tests: adding support for debian 10 on gce <Simple 😃> <Created by sergiocazzolato> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10248>
[14:10] <cachio> ijohnson, there is a problem
[14:10] <cachio> we need to move to github actions
[14:10] <ijohnson> cachio: what's the problem
[14:10] <ijohnson> cachio: yeah I have known about that, do we need to do it in order to fix their spread tests though ?
[14:11] <cachio> otherwise no way to use the gce sa key
[14:12] <ijohnson> cachio can you work with xnox to move them to GitHub actions then?
[14:12] <ijohnson> Or sil2100 if xnox is not working on core-initrd anymore
[14:39] <mardy> jdstrand, zyga: thanks, it's way more clear now :-)
[14:46] <mup> PR snapd#10264 opened: config: add "virtual" config via config.RegisterVirtualConfig <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10264>
[14:54] <xnox> cachio:  ijohnson: move to github actions would be welcomed. I thought at the time it was easier to do travis, hence that's what was done then.
[14:54] <ijohnson> yeah at the time it was easier to do travis but times have changed
[14:55] <ijohnson> sorry in a meeting right now, but will setup a private chat about migration in a little bit
[15:34] <RzR> hi I've found a minor mistake in
[15:34] <RzR> https://github.com/kubiko/roseapple-pi-ubuntuCore-build/pull/1
[15:34] <mup> PR kubiko/roseapple-pi-ubuntuCore-build#1: docs: Append gcc to PATH env var <Created by rzr> <https://github.com/kubiko/roseapple-pi-ubuntuCore-build/pull/1>
[16:07]  * cachio lunch
[16:45] <pedronis> mborzecki: I left some comments/questions in the tasks PR
[17:30] <mborzecki> pedronis: thanks!


[00:03] <ddellav> jak2020 sudo -i
[01:01] <jak2020> done
[01:01] <jak2020> ddellav thanks
[01:02] <jak2020> ddellav why amazon not offer debian servers? or other distros?
[01:04] <ddellav> jak2020 amazon will let you install almost any operating system provided you have a valid AMI. In their official library they only offer a handful of supported operating system, but you can look in the community aMI library and find almost anything
[01:05] <jak2020> oo market place..
[01:06] <jak2020> know about tunkey?
[01:06] <jak2020> can i pm you?
[01:09] <ddellav> you can but anything you ask might be helpful to others in this channel
[01:09] <ddellav> yes, i know about turn key
[01:10] <ddellav> be careful when choosing options from the marketplace, they often have costs associated
[01:19] <jak2020> by sample: Kali linux:  $0.00/hr for software + AWS usage fees
[01:19] <jak2020> no cost right?
[01:19] <jak2020>  $0.004 to $3.33/hr for software + AWS usage fees     smartAmi Linux  this have cost
[01:20] <jak2020> i talk about pm you because is general the conversation (not ubuntu)...
[01:20] <ddellav> yes, if it says 0.00/hr then you're good
[01:20] <ddellav> and if you use the AWS free tier, then it's 0 total
[01:27] <jak2020> ddellav please talk about tier please
[01:27] <ddellav> jak2020 for new AWS accounts you get 1 year of free tier access which grants you a bunch of stuff for free, you'll have to google for specifics
[01:27] <ddellav> but you get like 1 micro instance for free for a year
[01:28] <jak2020> ahh ok, other question give me only 8gb of storage?
[01:29] <ddellav> i think it's 30gb of instance storage but like i said, you'll want to google for specific
[01:29] <ddellav> i haven't been in the free tier for a long time
[01:29] <jak2020> ok. thanks
[01:29] <jak2020> is expensive after 1 year?
[01:29] <ddellav> depends on what you pick :)
[01:29] <ddellav> it could be $12 a month or $1239109210941904041 a month
[01:30] <jak2020> mmmm depend of traffic?
[01:30] <jak2020> or?
[01:30] <ddellav> well that yes, but also depends on what kind of instances you pick
[01:30] <ddellav> they have many and they all cost different amounts
[01:30] <ddellav> as well as how drive space you use, everything is monetized
[01:31] <jak2020> ok reading more specifications.
[01:31] <jak2020> thanks for you advices and time
[01:31] <ddellav> np
[01:34] <jak2020> oo other dude:
[01:35] <jak2020> for point my domain: www.mydomain.com to my ec2 instance? (need install a DNS) ?
[01:40] <jak2020> and how to enable for my server ec2 answer ping
[01:44] <jak2020> done the ping...
[03:06] <jak2020> ddellav?
[05:06] <cpaelzer> good morning
[07:19] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:20] <cpaelzer> hi lordievader
[07:25] <lordievader> Hey cpaelzer, how are you doing?
[07:30] <cpaelzer> lordievader: I can only tell you after I'm through all my mails and that seems to need a while today
[07:30] <cpaelzer> so I feel "undefined" for now :-)
[07:30] <lordievader> Check
[07:30] <lordievader> Good luck
[07:30]  * lordievader slides cpaelzer a cup of coffee
[07:31] <cpaelzer> thanks, I hope you are fine too
[10:05] <Aison> how can I disable MIR? I tried to do some X forwarding but I always get the message "Failed to connect to Mir: Failed to connect to server socket". But I don't want to use MIR
[10:34] <rbasak> Aison: that doesn't sound like a server question, so it seems less likely that people in this channel will know. Try #ubuntu.
[10:48] <Aison> rbasak, I connected from my desktop (gentoo) with ssh -X to my ubuntu server and started an x-application on my server. Then I get this error.
[11:04] <rbasak> cpaelzer: welcome back!
[11:04] <rbasak> cpaelzer: bug 1706818 might be one you're interested in
[11:46] <cpaelzer> rbasak: I'm on that already
[11:46] <cpaelzer> and good to see you again
[11:47] <cpaelzer> rbasak: reading details to be sure
[11:48] <cpaelzer> yeah synchronizing those locks was part of my uploads
[11:48] <cpaelzer> but I'm not enough through my pile of mails to be at those uploads
[11:56] <rbasak> nacc: should --expected-distribution also influence pull_orig()? Right now it doesn't.
[11:57] <rbasak> I suspect it should?
[11:58] <rbasak> But right now pull_orig() uses --for-merge to decide where to look first, whereas pristine_tar_orig() uses --expected-distribution AFAICT.
[11:59] <rbasak> Maybe --for-merge should be an alias for --expected-distribution=debian?
[12:25] <cpaelzer> rbasak: I discussed with Paul in the past, he will use ntpdate as "remote ntp scanner" (if that is a good name)
[12:25] <cpaelzer> rbasak: I'll update the bug to make it clear
[12:25] <cpaelzer> I'll also ask the bug reporter to check his scenario with the most recent SRU
[12:25] <cpaelzer> I'd hope that he is good as well, but want to be sure
[12:29] <rbasak> cpaelzer: thanks!
[14:50] <cpaelzer> jamespage: does bug 1626972 miss an "released to mitaka" update?
[14:50] <cpaelzer> It is still on fix committed, but you referred to it as released in bug 1706875
[14:51] <jamespage> cpaelzer: yeah oddity of how we do updates - the promotion of that fix to -updates was bundled with a later change so the bugref was missing
[14:51] <jamespage> done manually
[14:52] <cpaelzer> jamespage: perfect, just wanted to be sure as I closed another one with "just fixed see here"
[14:52] <cpaelzer> jamespage: lucky with OVS 2-8 ?
[14:53] <jamespage> cpaelzer: getting there - dpdk unit tests are failing on some archs, the the libopenvswitch stuff is a mess (so dropping that)
[14:53] <cpaelzer> hmm the tests worked in the past IIRC
[14:54] <cpaelzer> too bad they fail now, generally not working or only specific subtests?
[14:54] <cpaelzer> meaning are these the unit tests or already full grown tests later on like the dep8 mininet thing?
[14:54] <jamespage> just digging into that now
[14:54] <jamespage> cpaelzer: no unit tests as part of package build
[14:54] <cpaelzer> ok, leaving you to that
[15:02] <jamespage> cpaelzer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25263463/
[15:02] <jamespage> amd64 failures (one passed on recheck)
[15:22] <nacc> rbasak: yeah that's a good idea
[15:34] <nacc> rbasak: could you hop back into HO?
[15:34] <rbasak> ack
[16:18] <rbasak> nacc: not needed right now, but we'll need better names for --source and --mechanism.
[16:18] <rbasak> "Authority" and "Provenance" come to mind for --source.
[17:14] <jamespage> coreycb: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ceph/12.1.2-0ubuntu1 32 bit failures
[17:14] <jamespage> I need to look yet
[17:14] <jamespage> 64 bit will be ok
[17:15] <coreycb> jamespage: ack
[17:53] <runelind_q> if I use livepatch, how can I get apt to stop bugging me about kernel updates?
[17:56] <sarnold> runelind_q: note that the livepatches only address a few issues; you still want to install and reboot into new kernels from time to time
[17:56] <runelind_q> got it.
[18:00] <nacc> rbasak: yeah, i like 'authority' -- provenance is pretty fancy :)
[18:04] <nacc> smoser: around?
[19:13] <nacc> teward: fyi, just uploaded jgrimm's fix to xenial for postfix
[20:31] <these00> What are you up to?
[20:32] <these00> I am checking the charset code out.
[20:32] <these00> Can you post a screenshot?
[20:33] <nacc> these00: wrong channel?
[20:33] <these00> Screenshot of another channel, asking here.
[20:34] <these00> There were more irc nets with specific character sets.
[20:34] <these00> Freenode has it's.
[20:34] <nacc> these00: still don't know what you're asking about, or why you're asking in the Ubuntu server channel?
[20:38] <these00> it looks like there are a couple or more characters misshowing.
[20:38] <these00> the machine used to look is ubuntu, hence asking here nacc
[20:39] <these00> terminal character encoding can be tedious
[20:45] <these00> nacc is there a dvd encoding package?
[20:46] <these00> not something usually free
[20:46] <these00> yet nearly ubiquitouos


[02:07] <mybalzitch> my lock screen stopped working
[02:07] <mybalzitch> reboot seemed to fix it, lol
[05:12] <colin_> hello
[07:19] <simon_> Morning Colin
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:08] <Guest3806> sup
[15:57] <BluesKaj> 😎
 I have a windows 10 running on UEFI laptop and my usb installation media doesn't detect my harddrive it only shows partition and storage of usb media. What could be the problem
[16:17] <alkisg> Which distro/version? Kubuntu 20.04?
[16:17] <alkisg> (also, which minor version, 20.04.3?)
 I'm running 20.04.3 64bit
[16:20] <alkisg> What is the output of this command? sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
 Hi, I have a problem with okular. When i write with the Inline note option the caracters with the accent (like èéòì etc.. ) aren't displayed. Anyone can help me?
[20:50] <joshua> ...


[15:07] <qwebirc31706> So I'm a bit new to mythbuntu, My friend helped me set up a machine for my house. I have used Ubuntu and i like the desktop environment (i think thats what it is) better in the regular version of ubuntu. I believe its called "Unity" I was just curious if I install Unity on mythbuntu if i risk messing something up with the tv side?
[18:13] <cocoa117>  i am running 0.26 on Ubuntu 12.04, and just wonder how to see the log file? at the moment, the backend won't turn the tuner
 i keep getting error message "error tuning to transport"
 and i haven't configure the satellite yet, e.g. I am using 28.2E, but i haven't see the option to configure it in Backend setup
[18:44] <gregL> cocoa117,  The log files are located in /var/log/mythtv
[18:52] <cocoa117> gregL, thanx, i have look