[17:33] <ZeroA4> I have a Acer Ferrari 4005 and the card reader is not working but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AcerFerrari4005WLMi say it does! am I missing something ?
[17:33] <Vlet> tyler: you want to find your nfs shares?
[17:33] <tyler> ikonia: yes i understand that...where can i access them on my client pc....i go to network under computer and i dont see them
[17:34] <rinaldi_> ms1989: ok, check if your card is finding any access points by clicking on the network icon on the top right panel.
[17:34] <surial> This is weird: Since updating ubuntu, samba is no longer turning symlinks into actual links; instead I get a file on os x. I checked smb.conf and there's no follow symlinks = no. Is there something else that might cause this? I checked - the directory linked to is rwxr-xr-x.
[17:34] <Jeruvy> Jack_Sparrow: I understand that, but is there anything better?
[17:34] <tyler> vlet: yes i can find my smb windows shares but not the nfs ones
[17:34] <ikonia> tyler: places --> connect to
[17:34] <Vlet> tyler: what do you mean by 'find them'?
[17:34] <linkmaster03> how do i switch between windows in retawq?
[17:34] <Larrxi> my /dev/input/mouse0 resets the group i set it to when i restart my computer
[17:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Jeruvy guarddog perhaps, or just learn how to setup iptable manually
[17:35] <ikonia> Larrxi: how are you changing the group
[17:35] <Draggin> Hi there - I have Sun Java 1.7.0 installed on my system, but it seems I need to have 1.6.0 in order to run an application (Aptana) properly. Could anyone advise me about how to 'downgrade' my Java? Will 1.6.0 be listed in Synaptic, or how do I install it?
[17:35] <tyler> vlet: like if u go to networks it will show what drives on other machines in ur network are shared
[17:35] <rinaldi_> ms1989: is it a usb wireless card?
[17:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Jeruvy are you trying to do something specific, or is this a Windows HAngover..
[17:35] <Jeruvy> Jack_Sparrow: I've used lokkit.  I can also use iptables directly via python.  But its not for me :)
[17:35] <ikonia> tyler: nfs does not advertise it's self like samba
[17:35] <ovidiu> hi
[17:35] <ovidiu> I have a little problem
[17:35] <zpzzlz> is MPX going into the next Xorg?
[17:35] <ikonia> tyler: you have to tell it where to connect
[17:35] <ms1989> My windows says it's that but it's build in
[17:35] <tyler> ikonia: i go to connect to server and nfs is not an option in the service type
[17:36] <ikonia> tyler: then install nfs-client package
[17:36] <Jeruvy> Jack_Sparrow: I have a desktop to give out and they didn't like firestarter.  I don't think my choices are very good so I'm seeking alternates
[17:36] <surial> Draggin: I'm not 100% sure but multiple versions of java should be able to co-exist. There is also no java7, there's 'the latest openjdk alpha' which is closer to 7 to 6. But the feature set for java7 hasn't even been decided yet.
[17:36] <ovidiu> when I start Ubuntu 8.04, GDM appears. I insert the username and password, and X server restarts
[17:36] <ZeroA4> I have a Acer Ferrari 4005 and the card reader is not working but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AcerFerrari4005WLMi say it does! am I missing something ? do i need to aticvate something ?
[17:36] <klepto> Hi, Why when I try to install ubuntu on a 40 gig partition, it says run out of space? how much space does ubuntu need?
[17:36] <ovidiu> I insert again username and password and the system is starting
[17:36] <ikonia> tyler: nfs-common package sorry
[17:36] <ovidiu> why is happening that?
[17:36] <leif_> any one can help me whit gettin my 2 screen to work
[17:36] <rinaldi_> ms1989: type "lspci" into terminal. do you see your card?
[17:36] <luis_lopez> hi all, question: do I have to change my launchpad keys because the recent security advisory?
[17:37] <Draggin> surial - okay, that's actually great, since I like to have the latest versions of software, but if I can have an old and a new one in order to make my app work, that's super.  But again - I'm not 100% sure how to go about installing 1.6.0...
[17:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Jeruvy Perhaps you are not explaining it to them well enough .  Most new users are less safe with firestarter or any iptable manager than if they just let the system take care of things by itself
[17:37] <klepto> HOW MUCH SPACE DOES UBUNTU NEED TO INSTALL????????
[17:37] <tyler> ikonia: its alread y installed
[17:37] <surial> Well, java7 is not 'the latest version'. It's an alpha that might or might not even work.
[17:37] <klepto> HOW MUCH SPACE DOES UBUNTU NEED TO INSTALL????????
[17:37] <klepto> HOW MUCH SPACE DOES UBUNTU NEED TO INSTALL????????
[17:37] <FloodBot1> klepto: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:37] <Pici> !repeat | klepto
[17:37] <jason_1> haha, there's a kick.
[17:37] <Pici> !caps | klepto
[17:37] <ikonia> klepto: best way to get your self ignored, well done. Tyry asking your question in clear english without caps lock
[17:37] <arc_shmoo> can someone help me mount an iso in hardy ive gone through several tutorials and none are working
[17:38] <klepto> !stfu | Pici
[17:38] <Draggin> surial - okay... Perhaps I should get rid of it then?
[17:38] <Jack_Sparrow> ha
[17:38] <momelod> hello channel
[17:38] <ikonia> pici won
[17:38] <surial> Draggin: Actually it's a bit more complex than that. java6 is not open source, because e.g. the font renderer and such is licensed from some company that does not let sun licence it for open source. java7 WILL be open source, and the current 'open source' java version is actually the latest java7 (which is a work in progress, not finished), downgraded to java6.
[17:38] <ms1989> nope Only my wired
[17:38] <Pici> ikonia: said jack won on mine ;)
[17:38] <ikonia> tyler: I'll be with you in a minute
[17:38] <Vlet> klepto: my bare system is using 2.3 gigs
[17:38] <ikonia> Pici: so it did, my eyes failed
[17:38] <momelod> i upgraded my ubuntu box, but the nvidia-glx-legacy drivers were not installed and now i have no gui
[17:38] <phoenix5002> can someone tell me how to startup and application on my second desktop not my first one?
[17:39] <surial> Draggin: Now, the problem is, I don't actually know what this java7-turned-into-6 version is called. I'd guess its called OpenJDK java6, but perhaps they call it java7. Which would be a misnomer, but I can see how that would happen.
[17:39] <Draggin> surial... =-O ummm... okay...
[17:39] <surial> Draggin: so, first things first: where'd you get that java7 from?
[17:39] <phoenix5002> can someone tell me how to startup and application on my second desktop not my first one?
[17:39] <Larrxi> ikonia: i do "sudo chgrp input /dev/input/mouse0"
[17:39] <momelod> when i try to install nvidia-glx-legacy i receive the error from apt: no candidate....
[17:39] <spleencheesemonk> can't backup/restore in evolution.  there's no restore option under the file menu in evolution. any suggestions please? running heron after uninstalling and then reinstalling evolution
[17:39] <ikonia> Larrxi: udev is restting your rules on boot up
[17:39] <Jack_Sparrow> phoenix5002 Please hold off on repeating.. someone will answer if they know
[17:39] <Draggin> surial... To be honest... I think the '7' version of Java that I have may have been installed as part of IcedTea
[17:40] <ikonia> !away > roxandSLEEP
[17:40] <Draggin> Yet, my error log in the application reports that Sun is the vendor of the Java 1.7.0 running on my system
[17:40] <surial> ah. So anyone's guess then. There should be an opensource jdk6 version in the ubuntu apt-get universe.
[17:40] <fede____> hi everybody!!!!
[17:40] <pinnerup> I converted from Windows to Ubuntu yesterday. All went well. But earlier today several Ubuntu windows greyed out and froze and the whole system became irresponsible so I had to hard power off. Now the icons in the top right and left of windows (the ones used for maximising etc.) have disappeared. What's up with that?
[17:40] <Draggin> surial - apparently, according to what I've read, I need the Sun version though
[17:41] <rinaldi_> ms1989: ok before we do anything you need to install ndiswrapper.  type "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[17:41] <ms1989> ok
[17:41] <surial> Draggin: It is the sun version. Just with the few remaining non-open source bits replaced with their open source equivalents or just stripped out entirely.
[17:41] <leif_> is it posible to run 2 screen
[17:41] <Jack_Sparrow> pinnerup those are window decorations  /join #Compiz  or compiz --replace in a term
[17:41] <drivetrax> Draggin,  -- in windows, I had three versions of sun java.  Just go to Sun website, and see if the java is there
[17:41] <fede____> there's someone that knows how to mount "documents and settings" vista's folder on ubuntu????
[17:41] <Vlet> leif_: yes
[17:42] <Draggin> surial - okay. Do you know what that is called then? The naming conventions confuse the living crap out of me
[17:42] <surial> Draggin: you're not the only one :)
[17:42] <Vlet> fede____: look in your 'places' menu - there may be a drive in there for your windows system
[17:42] <surial> Draggin: There's openjdk-6-jre
[17:42] <surial> there's also sun-java6-bin.
[17:42] <ms1989> I got an error
[17:43] <drivetrax> fede____,  if you have root in ubuntu.. you should be able to go to local disk.. of the ubuntu file system, and browse directly to your vista
[17:43] <Draggin> surial - because when I go into Add/Remove Programs and search for JDK, what comes up is Sun Java 5.0 Runtime...
[17:43] <ms1989> but I use a 64-bit system maybe that's of any importance to you?
[17:43] <fede____> yeah...that's ok...but everithing is mounted...but i cannot see the things into my vista's forlder...
[17:43] <arc_shmoo>  can someone help me mount an iso in hardy ive gone through several tutorials and none are working. if this is not the right channel whichh is
[17:43] <surial> Draggin: and use sudo update-java-alternatives to see/set the version of java, out of the many installed, to use as a default.
[17:43] <Draggin> surial - but if I install openjdk-6-jre, will Aptana automatically know where to find the appropriate runtime? Do I need to get rid of my 1.7.0 Java or how do I set it up?
[17:43] <rinaldi_> ms1989: what was the error about?
[17:44] <Draggin> surial... Cool - I think I should write that down quickly...
[17:44] <ms1989> couldn't find the package I think
[17:44] <leif_> is it posible to run 2 screens on 8.04
[17:44] <surial> Draggin: Depends on which method Aptana uses. If it uses webstart, webstart finds javas and follows version restrictions. If Aptana just goes for /usr/bin/java, then you'd have to fiddle with update-java-alternatives. You should set default to java6 anyway, no reason to stick with 5.
[17:44] <Vlet> leif_: I told you, yes
[17:44] <Ramasdf> hi.
[17:44] <ms1989> in dutch it said "E: Kon pakket ndiswrapper niet vinden"
[17:45] <fede____> even root cannot seen the folder!!
[17:45] <rinaldi_> ms1989: oh sorry its ndiswrapper-common
[17:45] <surial> Draggin: My experience of using java on linux is a bit lacking. I'd be more specific if I could :)
[17:45] <ms1989> ok
[17:45] <leif_> is it just clone screen or
[17:45] <ms1989> I'll try again
[17:45] <drivetrax> fede____,  -- are you in terminal?
[17:45] <fede____> yeah
[17:45] <patty> when i try to start slapd i got in log (/etc/ldap/slapd.conf: line 64: invalid path: Permission denied) in slapd.conf i got (line 64 (directory        "/ldap_db") and /ldap_db is own by openldap/openldap and i put the whole dir to 777, anyone can help
[17:45] <Vlet> leif_: twinview, xinerama, clone
[17:45] <Ramasdf> how could i connect to ubuntu over the network using ssh
[17:45] <Jack_Sparrow> arc_shmoo Start by making a mount point... sudo mkdir /media/mydrive ... sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /home/jack/Desktop/KNOPPIX_V5.0.1CD-2006-06-01-EN.iso /media/mydrive
[17:45] <Draggin> surial - thanks a lot anyway :)  You've been more help than I've been ab;e to find up till now
[17:45] <drivetrax> fede____,  use the desktop way.. places
[17:45] <ms1989> It's working
[17:45] <rinaldi_> ms1989: while you're at it do "lsusb" and check if your wireless card is there
[17:46] <fede____> drivetrax, i've already tryed it...but it doesn't work
[17:46] <Vlet> Ramasdf: you need to have openssh-server installed
[17:46] <aliosha> is there a command-line version upgrade code?
[17:46] <fede____> tried
[17:46] <surial> Draggin: In this limbo time of java almost but not quite being open source, things are confusing. It's not you. When java7 is the official latest version, ubuntu should just install the one and only java that is relevant.
[17:46] <Vlet> aliosha: to upgrade what?
[17:46] <jayson> Hello people, I'm trying to debug firefox 3 on hardy last update I have made all steps on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs#head-cb617c5a868b29305181e55fafb049e9fcf89e83 and when i try to debug i receive no debug symbols find
[17:47] <ms1989>  things about realtek, but i'm not sure if it's my wireless card
[17:47] <tyler> im connected to a gb switch and cat 6 cable and im only sharing files over my network at 40MB/s i dont understand
[17:47] <aliosha> Vlet: versions from gutsy to hardy
[17:47] <Draggin> surial - can I ask you something else - is there a way for me to make sure that if I remove say the icedtea package, that all the related packages are also removed?  I just don't like sitting around with loose ends...
[17:47] <rinaldi_> ms1989: paste the line with realtek
[17:47] <Ramasdf> are there any wikis i can look at for ssl
[17:47] <fede____> ok
[17:47] <Vlet> aliosha: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:47] <surial> Now back to my issue: When distupdating my ubuntu, samba stopped following symlinks. Instead I get link files which os x is trying to interpret as links to the local filesystem, obviously doesn't work. I checked permissions: that doesn't seem to be the problem. There's no 'follow symlinks = no' in smb.conf, and ubuntu's smb configurator has a checkbox for allow symlinks.
[17:47] <ms1989> "Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0bda:8189 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. " and"Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0bda:0158 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. "
[17:47] <fede____> i'm ok...
[17:47] <fede____> thanks very much!!!
[17:47] <aliosha> Vlet: does that retain data?
[17:47] <fede____> bye bye guys!!!
[17:48] <Vlet> aliosha: yes, it does not wipe your system
[17:48] <aliosha> Vlet: thanks!
[17:48] <surial> Draggin: You'd have to ask an apt-get veteran. You can of course ask apt about icedtea's dependencies and -s up a view of what might happen if you uninstalled some of those. If nothing else is removed, it was a dead end.
[17:48] <Draggin> surial, because update-java-alternatives reports that I have java-1.5.0-sun and java-7-icedtea installed
[17:48] <rinaldi_> ms1989:  yep thats the one
[17:48] <ms1989> so what should I do now?
[17:48] <zylche> Guys I need help getting libpng 1.2.8 installed onto Hardy, I don't know where to get it for it so that Savage works..
[17:48] <ms1989> should it work?
[17:49] <surial> Draggin: Well, that's good news, seems like the system that lets multiple javas co-exist, and e.g. webstart find whatever java seems the best fit, work. Installing openjdk6 or sun jdk6 should mean you can run aptana, no problem.
[17:49] <rinaldi_> ms1989: no, go to http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true and get the 64bit driver
[17:49] <Vlet> ms1989: who are you talking to?
[17:49] <thrope> on one machine the openssl/ssh updates haven't shown up - Im pretty sure they aren't installed though becuase the key hasnt changed and ssh-vulnkey isnt availabke
[17:49] <ms1989> to Rinaldi_
[17:49] <Vlet> ms1989: it's a good idea to put "personsname:" in front of posts :)
[17:49] <saadoun34> je vous aime toute y a t il quelqu un pour me repondre ?
[17:49] <thrope> the sources are gb.archive.ubuntu.com - is there a reason these would be slower to update?
[17:49] <ms1989> rinaldi : wich version
[17:50] <rinaldi_> ms1989: windows
[17:50] <Ramasdf> are there any wikis i can look at for ssl?
[17:50] <DRebellion> Ramasdf, wikipedia?
[17:50] <sarkie> Is there a command to see packages which are removed, but not completly removed, i'm trying to save space, and does an upgrade leave any files around which I could remove?
[17:50] <Vlet> thrope: the official servers have been slow lately
[17:50] <nemo> wow. that latest ubuntu bug really really sucks
[17:51] <zpzzlz> anyone know why tracker doesn't index my evolution email? it's checked in the box...
[17:51] <rinaldi_> ms1989: make sure its the 8187B card, not 8187L
[17:51] <ms1989> rinaldi_: o wait i'll check
[17:51] <thrope> vlet: ah ok - I dont mean slow to download - I mean the updates arent listed yet (my system shows as up to date)
[17:52] <Vlet> thrope: oh... did you get the ssh updates yesterday?
[17:53] <thrope> Vlet: no thats the point
[17:53] <Vlet> thrope: weird - hmm, try a mirror
[17:53] <jayson> Hello people, I'm trying to debug firefox 3 on hardy last update I have made all steps on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs#head-cb617c5a868b29305181e55fafb049e9fcf89e83 and when i try to debug i "receive no debug symbols found"
[17:53] <arc_shmoo> Jack_Sparrow:  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so
[17:53] <ms1989> rinaldi_: there is no bit version?
[17:53] <Clusty> i have a headless ubuntu server and having the following problems: every now and then (now for ex) i cannot connect to the server. all services are timing out, but i can ping the machine
[17:53] <rinaldi_> ms1989: its at the bottom of the page. that zip file contains the 64bit version as well so get it
[17:53] <Clusty> any clue what is preventing serv from staring properly?
[17:53] <hotmonkey> sorry, I was d/cd did anyone reply
[17:54] <ms1989> rinaldi_: got what should i do with it?
[17:54] <At0x0> When I click the logout (top right) icon on hardy heron, my system locks up for a solid minute before it appears. I can't click anything, switch windows, etc. Oddly, nothing is pegged (cpu,ram,net,load,hdd,etc). Any ideas?
[17:54] <patty> where ocan i see when there is update
[17:54] <corrosion1> could someone help me ::: i have installed ubuntu 8 amd64 on my server, ide ata hard drive but after a success install it boots to invalid disk, press any key after inserting proper boot media. any ideas? its like it is not installing grub or anything.
[17:54] <rinaldi_> ms1989: once it's unzipped tell me and we can go from there
[17:54] <Vlet> At0x0: me too.
[17:54] <ms1989> rinaldi_: unzipped
[17:55] <Larrxi> ikonia: how to fix it then?
[17:55] <rinaldi_> ms1989: is it saved to your desktop?
[17:55] <ikonia> Larrxi: apologies I was away from my desk
[17:55] <ms1989> rinaldi_: yes
[17:55] <nikolaj> anybody who have installed openoffice 3.0 (Beta) Who dit you do it?
[17:56] <Otacon22> 42!
[17:56] <TuxPWNZ> The Avant navigator does not start with me, can anybody help?
[17:56] <zpzzlz> anyone know why tracker doesn't find any emails in search results? Evolution is checked, and statistics say "emails: 25419"
[17:56] <ms1989> rinaldi_: so what should I do next?
[17:56] <rinaldi_> ms1989: in terminal, type "ndiswrapper -i /home/[username]/Desktop/RTL8187B/X64/net8187b.inf"
[17:56] <arc_shmoo> Jack_Sparrow: ideas?
[17:57] <samar_> hi all
[17:57] <Larrxi> ikonia: can i configure udev to not reset?
[17:57] <ikonia> Lauree: you need to look in /etc/udev/rules.d and add a permissions rule
[17:57] <bobbob1016> Can anyone help me get different wallpapers on different sides of my compiz cube in Hardy?  I can't find a Hardy howto.
[17:57] <jamiejackson> i could swear there used to be a shared folder (smb) gui in gutsy. i can't find it in hardy. is there a gui to manage shares (besides the one in nautilus)?
[17:58] <rinaldi_> ms1989: once that is done and you get no errors, type "ndiswrapper -l" and check if it says "hardware present"
[17:58] <TuxPWNZ> The Avant navigator does not start with me, can anybody help?
[17:58] <arc_shmoo> Jack_Sparrow: im gonna log into windows and try give me 1 min
[17:58] <arc_shmoo> Jack_Sparrow: 10
[17:59] <bobbob1016> jamiejackson, Right click a folder then go to the Share tab
[17:59] <jamiejackson> hi bobbob1016: i know about that one, but is there a gui to manage all shares in one spot?
[18:00] <tacit> jamiejackson: swat
[18:00] <ikonia> jamiejackson: if you use swat, make sure you lock it down
[18:01] <patty> when i try to start slapd i got in log (/etc/ldap/slapd.conf: line 64: invalid path: Permission denied) in slapd.conf i got (line 64 (directory        "/ldap_db") and /ldap_db is own by openldap/openldap and i put the whole dir to 777, anyone can help
[18:01] <ms1989> rinaldi_ : it says no ndiswrapper utils found
[18:01] <rinaldi_> ms1989: did you install ndiswrapper-common ?
[18:02] <as85> Hey guys, i have got my wifi activated and i was wondering if anyone knew a software to scan wifi signals
[18:02] <as85> like on windows
[18:02] <Draggin> surial... Still no go... Now I get this: A Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK)
[18:02] <Draggin> must be available in order to run Aptana. No Java virtual machine
[18:02] <Draggin> was found after searching the following locations:
[18:02] <Draggin> /usr/local/aptana/jre/bin/java
[18:02] <Draggin> 'java' in your current PATH
[18:02] <FloodBot1> Draggin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:02] <ms1989> yes
[18:02] <Finnish> I need a video converter, any suggestions?
[18:02] <Draggin> Sorry... Didn't see that had breaks in it :)
[18:02] <as85> Finnish > menconder
[18:02] <sasha__> as85 you can do it in console
[18:03]  * Pasqual|XChat is away: tic absent/ocupat
[18:03] <bobbob1016> Finnish, mencoder ... as85 and sasha__ beat me to it...
[18:03] <TuxPWNZ> The Avant navigator does not start with me, can anybody help?
[18:03] <as85> sasha > how ?
[18:03] <sasha__> as85 type  iwlist ra0 scanning
[18:03] <sasha__> rao is the name of the card in my case
[18:03] <as85> ra0 is the name of the card?
[18:03] <as85> ah ok
[18:03] <rinaldi_> ms1989: sorry, utils are usally installed with it, do sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[18:04] <rinaldi_> ms1989: then do what I said before
[18:04] <bobbob1016> TuxPWNZ, I can't help more than saying try opening a terminal and typing "avant-window-navigator" then if there is one error, one line, put it here, if not go to pastebin.ca paste it there, and ask for help with that link
[18:04] <hotmonkey> corrosion1: try installing grub to the mbr of the first disk (likely the ide one) instead of the root disk
[18:04] <as85>  iwlist ath0 scanning ath0      No scan results
[18:05] <as85> how do i know it really works?
[18:05] <as85> I mean, the led isn't on, but i guess this is common
[18:05] <sasha__> sworry I am a newbie too :)
[18:05] <sasha__> did you install the driver?
[18:05] <as85> yeah
[18:05] <as85> the madwifi driver
[18:05] <leif_> is there a desktop change tool
[18:05] <as85> yeah
[18:06] <leif_> how do i use it  is newb
[18:06] <MJanee> Hali mindenkinek
[18:06] <Oli``> Where's the most comprehensive HCL these days?
[18:06] <ikonia> !hcl
[18:06] <jamiejackson> tacit / iconia: what's it mean to lock down swat, or where can i read about it?
[18:06] <sasha__> so this is my question: I can see wireless networks around me but cant ping anyone, did I install the drivers OK?
[18:06] <Oli``> cheers ikonia
[18:07] <tacit> jamiejackson: In it's documentation / common sense.
[18:07] <jaffarkelshac> what do you mean when you say desktop change tool leif_
[18:07] <ikonia> jamiejackson: swat can give someone full access to your system, if you enable it make sure you enable as much security as possible
[18:07] <MJanee> opps
[18:07] <as85> ok so what woumld the command be to see which wifi card I got ?
[18:07] <patty> !ldap
[18:07] <tacit> as85: lspci
[18:07] <tacit> as85: Or just yank it out and read the label.
[18:07] <ms1989> rinaldi_: "couldn't create /etc/ndiswrapper/net8187b: Toegang geweigerd at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.9 line 194.", sorry that it's dutch
[18:07] <leif_> i want to try kde so how do i change gnome for kde
[18:07] <jamiejackson> okay, i'll play with it, ikonia. tacit, maybe it will be common sense once installed ;-)
[18:08] <ms1989> rinaldi_: I think I should be root or something
[18:08] <rinaldi_> ms1989: yeh do sudo before the ndiswrapper -i
[18:08] <bmoll8> anyone know what keys I need to press to get out of X and to a console-only setting
[18:08] <Fenix|work> Greets... is there a tool to find fast mirrors?
[18:08] <jaffarkelshac> leif_: you would install kubuntu-desktop and log off and logon, but choose kde in session
[18:08] <ms1989> rinaldi_: I'll try
[18:08] <Larrxi> how to do that udev do not reset my group settings?
[18:08] <Fenix|work> (from the CLI)
 Thanks, the problem was that I wasn't running compiz fusion, it's working now. :)
[18:08] <Draggin> Okay... So where do I set path variables in Ubuntu? I have both java 1.5 and 6 installed now, but neither seems to be available to applications...
[18:08] <_paradox_> hi all
[18:09] <Pici> Draggin: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[18:09] <Finnish> Where is a good manual for mencoder?
 Thanks very much.
[18:09] <jaffarkelshac> leif_: it downloads a few packages that natively comes with kde so you are looking at 100mb +
[18:09] <Draggin> Pici - thanks :)
[18:09] <bobbob1016> TuxPWNZ, You should try running things in terminal if they don't run, so you can see errors.
[18:09] <_paradox_> i was just wondering in comparison to windows with defraging and compressing old files etc how do i keep my ubuntu box clean?
 But one more thing, I can't seem to be able to add any applets to it. Why is that?
[18:10] <ms1989> rinaldi_: and what next?
[18:10] <_paradox_> and is it ok to clear out temp files in the java 6 control panel?
[18:10] <leif_> there thanx
[18:10] <rinaldi_> ms1989: does ndiswrapper -l say hardware present?
[18:10] <bobbob1016> TuxPWNZ, You MIGHT need to restart awn (avant-window-navigator), but you're in the "applets" setup, right?
[18:10] <Larrxi> how to do that udev do not reset my files group settings that i have manually assigned?
[18:10] <esox> Hi I'm trying to instal hardy on a new pc and install always fail at thje end : cant install grub on hd0
[18:10] <esox> please help
[18:10] <Fenix|work> is there a mirror configuration utility?
[18:10] <AvK> hey, how can i check under linux  what Ram Card do i have
[18:11] <leif_> did just run a apt get then i got it
[18:11] <sasha__> I can see wirelees networks but cant connect to them, what is the problem?
[18:11] <bobbob1016> TuxPWNZ, You click the one you want then click activate, you can drag them on the bottom of the setup page to select where they go
 I can't even find the AWN Manager in the preferences menu.
[18:11] <ms1989> rinaldi_: "net8187b : driver installed
[18:11] <ms1989> 	device (0BDA:8189) present" is what he said
[18:12] <bobbob1016> esox, Do you have Vista installed on the same machine by any chance?
[18:12] <rmnboss> hi everybody! i've got a problem mounting my ipod so i can write mp3s on it with amarok. when i plug it in, nautilus says, it can't be mounted correctly, since some folder name contains illegal characters (like "/" or something, but the device name is "IPOD"). when i try "sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /media/ipod" it works, but i have to start amarok with root-rights to write on the player. can anyone help? thanks.
[18:12] <esox> bobbob1016: no, XP pro
[18:12] <urthmover> he said the V word
[18:12] <urthmover> and now the X word
[18:12] <urthmover> eww
[18:12] <bobbob1016> TuxPWNZ, Right click the dock (awn) and you should get the preferences there
[18:12] <rinaldi_> ms1989: ok good, now do "sudo depmod -a" and then "sudo depmod ndiswrapper"  this will activate the driver modules
 I tried that, it doesn't start
[18:13] <jamiejackson> ikonia, do i need to reboot to get to swat? i hit the local url, but firefox "can't connect..."
[18:13] <rinaldi_> ms1989: sorry the second one I mean "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[18:13] <bobbob1016> esox, Not sure then, Vista locks the mbr (master boot record) sometimes, and that could have been it.  I have no idea now though, sorry.
[18:13] <_paradox_> plz help
[18:13] <tacit> Btw. who came up with this stupid idea to use sudo for everything?
[18:14] <linkmaster03> in a mail client using .mailrc, what should i chmod .mailrc?
[18:14] <wols> tacit: saner and wiser people than you
[18:14] <tacit> wols: I doubt it.
[18:14] <wols> linkmaster03: the user it belongs to
[18:14] <wols> and his standard perms
[18:14] <bobbob1016> TuxPWNZ, Try closing awn, then avant-window-navigator in the terminal again, and try right clicking the dock, the error might be in the terminal
[18:14] <rinaldi_> tacit: people who want to keep their computer stable
[18:14] <linkmaster03> wols: but should it be +x?
[18:15] <ms1989> rinaldi_: ok did it, but didn't get any output on my terminal
[18:15] <iRodrigo> test
[18:15] <wols> linkmaster03: it's a config file. who'd want to run it?
[18:15] <bobbob1016> TuxPWNZ, Try "awn-manager"
[18:15] <linkmaster03> dont know
[18:15] <linkmaster03> thanks wols
[18:15] <tacit> rinaldi_: This is a quite generic statement, with a generic term.
[18:15] <rinaldi_> ms1989: thats a good sign, now do "iwconfig"
 Okay, it started now.
[18:16] <ms1989> rinaldi_ : ok he's doing something
 But in the "Applets" section, the only applet I can see here is the Taskmanager applet.
[18:16] <esox> nobody has an idea to solve this grub issue on install ?
[18:16] <rinaldi_> ms1989:  is wlan0 got a load of things under it?
[18:17] <bobbob1016> TuxPWNZ, Is that on the top part, or the bottom?
[18:17] <jaffarkelshac> what method are you using to install esox
[18:17] <ms1989> rinaldi_ : is it shows nothing on my terminal
[18:17] <lyzium> AvK, lspci -vvnn or gnome-device-manager
[18:17] <TuxPWNZ> Both
[18:17] <esox> jaffarkelshac: I put kbuntu 64 in the drive and I install manually the partitions (my HD is already parted)
 Both
[18:17] <bobbob1016> TuxPWNZ, You might need to install awn applets, it should be in synaptic, assuming you installed via synaptic
[18:17] <ms1989> rinaldi_: even "maikel@maikel-laptop" is away
[18:18] <AvK> lyzium thanks
[18:18] <jaffarkelshac> have you tried using wubi
[18:18] <jaffarkelshac> have you tried using wubi esox
[18:18] <rinaldi_> ms1989: iwconfig gives you nothing at all?
[18:18] <jayson> Hello people, I'm trying to debug firefox 3 on hardy last update I have made all steps on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs#head-cb617c5a868b29305181e55fafb049e9fcf89e83 and when i try to debug i "receive no debug symbols found". Can you help me ?
 How did you know I used Synaptic? :D
[18:18] <corrosion1> please help :: after installing ubuntu 8.04 desktop amd64, i cannot boot, says connect a boot device or insert proper boot media and press any key, No i dont have a flooy disk in drive, and yes i took the cd out of drive after install.
[18:18] <Cheavera> Hi i installed a 32bit firefox on a 64bit system in /opt . The manually installed firefox does not connect to internet the default 64bit firefox does. Can anybody tell me wahts the problem?
[18:19] <ms1989> rinaldi_: it shows me a blank line with a flashing typ-thing on it
[18:19] <esox> jaffarkelshac: but this installs hardy in a windows partition no ?
[18:19] <rinaldi_> ms1989: does ifconfig give anything?
[18:19] <as85> btw anyone here used ArchLinux ?
[18:20] <jaffarkelshac> it creates virtual disk in windows partitions and install there, esox
[18:20] <basvg> hi all, we recently purchased a Handycam (dcr-sr55). I kind of hoped that it'd show up as a usb-disk (with mpegs) when I put it in the hardy box...  no luck so far. Any ideas how to copy footage of the handycam?
[18:20] <ms1989> rinaldi_:  nothing at all
[18:20] <markf> try Kino
[18:20] <cameron> If system restart is required for an update and the icon is there saying this, Can you get rid of the icon without restarting?
[18:20] <L2L> besides downloading the gutsy version and burning to disk, is there anyway to install gutsy from hardy?
[18:20] <tacit> rinaldi_: So how is "sudo" related to stability in your point?
[18:20] <esox> jaffarkelshac: I'm not sure its a good solution to make HD recording for mudic...
[18:20] <esox> music
[18:20] <rinaldi_> ms1989: ok.... try sudo with it just for good measure
[18:21] <markf> basvg: try to install Kino...
[18:21] <rmnboss> hi everybody! i've got a problem mounting my ipod so i can write mp3s on it with amarok. when i plug it in, nautilus says, it can't be mounted correctly, since some folder name contains illegal characters (like "/" or something, but the device name is "IPOD"). when i try "sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /media/ipod" it works, but i have to start amarok with root-rights to write on the player. can anyone help? thanks.
[18:21] <basvg> markf: kino is an editor right? but also suitable of copying footage of the camera?
[18:21] <ikonia> L2L: do n upgrade
[18:21] <ikonia> L2L: do an upgrade
[18:21] <jaffarkelshac> esox: probably not
[18:21] <markf> basvg:  yes, i did it two days ago
[18:21] <ms1989> rinaldi_: both nothing
[18:21] <rinaldi_> tacit: well I only allow things higher privileges if I want it to, otherwise any app I install could be messing with things I don't want it to
[18:22] <L2L> ikonia i am on hardy i want to go back to gutsy
[18:22] <esox> jaffarkelshac: well it doesnt solve my install issue
[18:22] <wols> rmnboss: set options like your umask=, uid= and gid= correctly when mounting from commandline
[18:22] <tacit> rinaldi_: This is what the root account is for.
[18:22] <wols> L2L: reinstall
[18:22] <ikonia> L2L: then you need to do a re-install
[18:22] <ikonia> L2L: thats the only way
[18:22] <Pici> !sudo | tacit
[18:22] <rmnboss> wols: uid=my id? and what is umask?
[18:22] <L2L> k so burn to disk is only way to reinstall?
[18:22] <markf> basvg:  tell me if you can't get your footage on ur handdisk with Kino
[18:22] <ikonia> L2L: its the most staight forward
[18:22] <eza_emyu> #purwokerto
[18:22] <L2L> kk
[18:22] <wols> umask is the default chmod set. see the man mountpage for it
[18:22] <L2L> thanks
[18:23] <ms1989> rinaldi_: nothing with iwconfig and ifconfig
[18:23] <rmnboss> wols: thanks.
[18:23] <tacit> Well sudo certainly moves the security boundary to the desktop. Sad.
[18:23] <ms1989> rinaldi_ : with sudo before it ofcourse
[18:23] <no7up4u2> hi all , how do u open a .bin archived?
[18:23] <Pici> tacit: Do you have a support question? Or anything constructive to contribute here?
[18:23] <tacit> Yet another program not used for it's intended purpose.
[18:23] <basvg> markf: allright, thanks I'll give it a go
[18:23] <wols> no7up4u2: you find out what file it actually is. ".bin" is utterly meaningless
[18:23] <bobboy> Hello Ubuntu community :D, I am having a little noobish problem with updating and was wondering if someone would be able to answer a couple questions?
[18:24] <ms1989> rinaldi_: os what now?
[18:24] <wols> no7up4u2: file file.bin
[18:24] <rinaldi_> ms1989: ok, right click on the network icon and make sure wireless is checked, then click once on it and see if it searches any points
[18:24] <wols> ms1989: /sbin/ifconfig WILL ALWAYS output something or you have an utterly broken system
[18:24] <m1r> bobboy: !ask
[18:24] <Pici> bobboy: Just ask ;)
[18:24] <markf> basvg:  good luck. you can also export your footage as mp4 in Kino which is cool...
[18:24] <bobboy> ok lol
[18:24] <bobboy> here goes
[18:25] <ms1989> wols : I don' t now
[18:25] <nekkidtruth> Hello everyone :)  Just a quick question, which version of gnome does Ubuntu 8.04 use?
[18:25] <basvg> markf: sounds like what I want... mp4, and the flashy stuff that youtube also uses.
[18:25] <no7up4u2> i dont think the file name is relevant, i just want to know what app can open it
[18:25] <wols> ms1989: ^pastebin your full written command and ALL output that eappears then
[18:25] <tacit> nekkidtruth: Distrowatch has a nice listing of versions.
[18:25] <tim167> hi, i followed the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent but it doesnt work, i slected 'removeable device' in bios boot sequence...can anyone help ?
[18:26] <Pici> nekkidtruth: 2.22
[18:26] <wols> no7up4u2: I told you: no one can know what a "bin" file actually is since that extension is meaningless. both CD isos and BIOS firmware upgrades have it for example
[18:26] <jayson> Hello people, I'm trying to debug firefox 3 on hardy last update I have made all steps on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs#head-cb617c5a868b29305181e55fafb049e9fcf89e83 and when i try to debug i "receive no debug symbols found". Can you help me ? How to make this debug ?
[18:26] <ikonia> jayson: the binary has been stripped
[18:26] <ms1989> wols : a second first i'll try something runaldi has said to me
[18:26] <Rachel84> Hi, can someone please point me in the right direction solving an mdadm problem? I have two USB HDDs used in an mdadm config. Everything works fine if these are the only two discs plugged in at boot. If I have a third USB HDD plugged in during boot mdadm fails. I assume my answer lies somewhere in udev, but I'm not sure how to configure mdadm to use this. Can anyone help?
[18:26] <wols> no7up4u2: and I told you a way to find out what kind of file it is
[18:26] <markf> basvg:  yes, you can also export it also a flv file. i've made a youtube file but youtube compressed it. i think, i have to use the right relolution so youtube won't touch it.
[18:26] <jayson> ikonia: I'm using gdb /usr/lib/firefox-3*/firefox 2>&1 | tee /tmp/gdb-firefox.txt
[18:26] <nekkidtruth> Thanks Pici :)
[18:26] <_paradox_> ok can i get a little help now?
[18:26] <no7up4u2> ah k mistread that wols
[18:27] <no7up4u2> my bad
[18:27] <no7up4u2> :)
[18:27] <nekkidtruth> I wasn't able to find it on the website.  Or I'm blind ;)
[18:27] <ihcus> hi ppl....guys i messed my gnome-power manager ...there is no restart button or shutdown button ....can anyone help me please
[18:27] <ms1989> rinaldi_: where do I check this box
[18:27] <rinaldi_> ms1989: wols knows more about ifconfig than me. it won't work. I decided to ignore for now but it is rather strange ifconfig gives nothing
[18:27] <ikonia> jayson: that doesn't change the fact the binary has been stripped
[18:27] <ikonia> Rachel84: what is the error
[18:27] <wols> ms1989: try ifconfig -a
[18:27] <ikonia> Rachel84: what level raid, what version of ubuntu
[18:27] <jayson> ikonia: What can I do to debug ?
[18:27] <bobboy> i want to get used to the command line so i looked up some instructions on upgrading packages with apt.. so i did sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrate.. my problem is i am getting different outputs using apt and using the GUI Update Manager.. apt says i need to upgrade 6 packages and is holding back on ssl-cert, gets 13.5MB and after the operation 4096B disk space will be freed. UpdateManager says i need to ins
[18:27] <basvg> markf: I've fired up kino, hooked up my handycam.... err... now what ;-) I don't see an 'import' button or anything
[18:27] <ikonia> jayson: install deubgging symbols package on the binary (assuming there is one)
[18:27] <m1r> ihcus, run gcnof-editor and search for restart would be my guess
[18:28] <Rachel84> The disc doesn't mount; when I try to manually mount it with mount -a, it tells me wrong fs type. If I then unplug the third USB disc and reboot, everything comes up just fine.
[18:28] <markf> hi people, which settings do you recommend to use for ffmpeg to make the "perfect looking" youtube file (MP4 H.264 codec)
[18:28] <ms1989> wols : nothing
[18:28] <m1r> bobboy apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:28] <ihcus> m1r: do i have to run it in terminal?
[18:28] <ikonia> Rachel84: well, none of that is what I asked
[18:28] <wols> ms1989: I asked you for a pastebin. I want that pastebin still
[18:28] <m1r> ihcus alt+f2
[18:28] <no7up4u2> wols,  ARJ archive data, v6, slash-switched, original name: NML.ARJ, os: MS-DOS
[18:28] <bobboy> m1r: im in hardy heron
[18:28] <At0x0> When I click the logout (top right) icon on hardy heron, my system locks up for a solid minute before it appears. I can't click anything, switch windows, etc. Oddly, nothing is pegged (cpu,ram,net,load,hdd,etc). Any ideas?
[18:28] <ikonia> Rachel84: 1.) boot with the 3rd disk in, check with mdadm the status of the array, try to start the array
[18:28] <ms1989> wols : what's a pastbin
[18:28] <Rachel84> It's a raid0 on the latest version of Ubuntu.
[18:28] <ikonia> Rachel84: 2.) look at your mdadm concig
[18:28] <wols> ms1989: and additionally I want the output of ls -l /etc/network/interfaces  and cat /etc/network/interfaces
[18:28] <Pici> !paste | ms1989
[18:29] <wols> !paste | ms1989
[18:29] <seyacat> Hi ubuntuers, pelase help me
[18:29] <ikonia> Rachel84: raid0 --, why why why are you using raid0 on usb disks
[18:29] <jayson> ikonia: i have installed firefox-3.0-dbgsym  xulrunner-1.9-dbgsym libgtk2.0-0-dbg libnss3-0d-dbgsym libnspr4-0d-dbg libpango1.0-0-dbg libcairo2-dbg libc6-dbg
[18:29] <markf> basvg:  you need to fire Kino up as sudo kino in the terminal or u need to change some permissions. otherwise ubuntu won't let you access the handycam.
[18:29] <m1r> bobboy , try this command> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:29] <ikonia> jayson: that looks good
[18:29] <Rachel84> Why why why not?
[18:29] <basvg> okidoki, trying
[18:29] <wols> Rachel84: for some reason or other the additional hdd ight screw with assigned device names via udev
[18:29] <ihcus> m1r:i opened the gconf-editor
[18:30] <TheName> whats the best way to secure my system
[18:30] <jayson> ikonia: after installed that, i cannot debug yet, i receive "no debuging symbols found"
[18:30] <ikonia> Rachel84: because usb disks are slow slow slow, so the fantasy performance people think they get from raid0 is even less likley to happen on usb, and if any disk has errors you hole file system is unusable
[18:30] <ihcus> but i cannot find restart on it
[18:30] <wols> !harden
[18:30] <m1r> ihcus , search for restart or shutdown
[18:30] <tacit> TheName: Don't connect it to the internet.
[18:30] <markf> basvg:  just leave ur handy cam connected and on to the firewire connection
[18:30] <ikonia> jayson: I would expect a different biary with that package, but I don't know, I've not tried it myself
[18:30] <wols> TheName: the question is "secure it from what or who"?
[18:31] <Rachel84> I'm not after performance. What I need is a filesystem that provides a single mount point and which I can extend by adding other USB discs when needed.
[18:31] <basvg> markf: i have it on usb
[18:31] <gverig> I have something weird with sound on my laptop (running 8.04). Example: Flash locks sound (eitehr flash can play sounds or XMMS). Currently, Miro somehow killed all the sound (nothing makes no sounds at all)- two questions: 1) any idea what causes this (suspicion- different sound managers used by different programs, and locking out dsp or something like that) , 2) how can I analyze why sound is gone now (so that I at least don't have to reboot every time)?
[18:31] <seyacat> I dont know what happens with ... but GDM can start any session, when i try with startx i have permision problem with dev/null, to make it works i give permisions to null random and u random , but not all works fine , and this permissions change again at boot, what can i do
[18:31] <marcules> hi^^
[18:31] <jayson> ikonia: that make a new binary /usr/lib/debug/firefox*/firefox
[18:31] <palbuddy> Hi! I'm a newbie!  Whenever I copy something from a CD to my hard drive the files show up as locked, how can I prevent this?!
[18:31] <palbuddy> thanks in advance :)
[18:31] <wols> Rachel84: that's not raid but lvm2
[18:31] <ikonia> Rachel84: well raid0 is not what you want then
[18:31] <ikonia> Rachel84: you want lvm
[18:31] <TheName> secure it from maliciouse hackers
[18:31] <docgnome> is there no php4-cli packages for hardy?
[18:31] <basvg> and it appears to be mounted on /media/disk
[18:31] <tacit> palbuddy: chmod u+w <files>
[18:31] <hwilde> TheName, you'll be allright.  don't worry
[18:31] <spleencheesemonk> please please please can somebody help me.  i'm logged into hardy but nothing comes up at all but the backdrop. no menus, nothing.  the only way i've managed to load pidgin is by putting in a usb stick which it recognizes, then using that window to search for the application.  anyone any ideas why none of my menu bars or anything are loading? if i middle click my mouse button, the desktop cube works, but there's nothing else! :o
[18:31] <wols> palbuddy: check the permissions of the files. "ls -al <filename>"
[18:31] <markf> basvg:  that's no problem. you would be able to mount it now..
[18:31] <wols> palbuddy: to see who owns it with what premissions
[18:31] <wols> !permissions | palbuddy
[18:31] <palbuddy> is there any way to do this in gnome wols?
[18:31] <ihcus> m1r:i couldnt find restart or reboot
[18:32] <palbuddy> okay I'll go to that website
[18:32] <palbuddy> thanks
[18:32] <markf> basvg:  do you have a firewire port on the handy cam?
[18:32] <wols> palbuddy: I'm sure nautilus can look at it but I dunno how since I don't use it
[18:32] <Rachel84> Okay, the other problem is I have 1TB of stuff already on the RAID0 and nowhere else to put it while I move things around. :-/
[18:32] <ihcus> m1r:i found only shutdown and dont know what to do with it
[18:32] <bobboy> m1r: k they both give the same package results and vary in size only by about 800kb.. one other problem is why is it trying to install an update for transmission when i uninstalled it and am using qBitTorrent?
[18:32] <markf> basvg:  i used a firewire cable to import the footage though...
[18:32] <Peng> What did the new new OpenSSH changes on Hardy, err, change?
[18:32] <ikonia> Rachel84: thats not a problem we can help with
[18:32] <hwilde> Rachel84, I strongly advise you to buy more harddrives...
[18:32] <ikonia> Peng: fixed a security issue
[18:32] <seyacat> help me i have problems with permisions of /dev/null random and urandom, i can change, but puts wrong again at boot
[18:32] <basvg> markf: my pc doesnt have firewire
[18:32] <wols> Peng: it has a non explouitable RNG (hopefully)
[18:32] <ikonia> seyacat: thats udevb
[18:32] <TheName> but i got to worry. in order to do what "TheName" does i have to know how to prevent it
[18:32] <ikonia> seyacat: udev
[18:32] <Pici> !libsslbug | Peng
[18:33] <ms1989> wols : I don't really now what you mean
[18:33] <docgnome> are there no php4 packages for hardy?
[18:33] <gverig> spleencheesemonk: haven't seen this but switch to text mode (Ctrl-Alt-F1 I think... not sure) and check logs (X logs especially)
[18:33] <Peng> Guys, I know that. I already upgraded once today; why is there another new version?
[18:33] <wols> ms1989: and I don't know what you talk baout
[18:33] <seyacat> ikonia: udev, its a command? a conf file
[18:33] <ikonia> seyacat: it's a daemon that creates device files
[18:33] <spleencheesemonk> gverig - i'm not competant with cli. :(
[18:33] <markf> basvg:  how do you normally import ur footage, is it with the usb cable? what brand handycam do you have. is it Sony?
[18:33] <wols> I told you what a pastebin is and ubottu told you how to use it and I gave you very specific commands you only have to type in as given
[18:33] <ms1989> wols : the iwconfig that didn't give anything
[18:33] <wols> so what's the problem?
[18:33] <seyacat> mmmm,, ty ikonia let me see
[18:34] <basvg> markf: jeah it is sony... an dthis is the first time ...
[18:34] <m1r> ihcus , bobboy , afk 5 min
[18:34] <Rachel84> What advantage will LVM2 give me over a mdadm JBOD?
[18:34] <basvg> thanks so far, back later (first food)
[18:34] <TheName> i want to join a network security team or at least start one anyone interested
[18:34] <wols> ms1989: I ask you for the LAST time. I want pastebin entries of your terminal. copy+paste it. until then: goodbye
[18:34] <bobboy> m1r: ok
[18:34] <gverig> spleencheesemonk: Then you have a problem. As much as I would love to give linux it's props you still need to be able to use cli is you want ot use it
[18:34] <tacit> spleencheesemonk: man intro
[18:34] <ihcus> m1r: ok
[18:34] <ikonia> Rachel84: extendability
[18:34] <ikonia> Rachel84: the ability to add disks
[18:34] <Kober> hello's  everybody
[18:34] <spleencheesemonk>  i know i have a problem :D
[18:34] <TheName> i want to join a network ubuntu security team or at least organise one anyone interested
[18:34] <ikonia> Rachel84: stability
[18:34] <Rachel84> JBOD allows that, doesn't it?
[18:35] <markf> basvg: i have a Sony miniDV handycam. what do you see in Kino?
[18:35] <corrosione> did i miss the machine that hands out the number tickets?
[18:35] <spleencheesemonk> looks like a reinstall then? :(
[18:35] <ikonia> Rachel84: no
[18:35] <hwilde> TheName, you need to google "hardened" systems and figure out how to configure iptables and a firewall and shut off all the ports etc etc
[18:35] <wols> TheName: ubuntu already has a security but from the questions you ask you probably have to learn quite a bit still before you become useful for them
[18:35] <Rachel84> Okay, can you recommend an introduction doc for LVM2?
[18:35] <ikonia> Rachel84: raid0 will not allow it
[18:35] <Pici> Peng: Check the changelog notes: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ssl-cert
[18:35] <hwilde> !lvm | Rachel84 '
[18:35] <wols> Rachel84: lvm2 howto
[18:35] <coping> hi
[18:35] <markf> basvg: go to the right: Capture...
[18:35] <Rachel84> Thanks. I'll check that out.
[18:36] <wols> corrosione: what machine?
[18:36] <coping> IRC only english?
[18:36] <markf> basvg: I think, the usb cable is better for importing still pictures than the footage, but you might give it a try.
[18:36] <Pici> !en | coping
[18:36] <Peng> Pici: Oh, thank you. :)
[18:36] <coping> thanks Pici
[18:36] <corrosione> wols msi k9ngm4 f v2 (7050 nforce chipset), 2gb corsair, 3 drive RAID (which i unplugged to make sure that wasnt the issue), amd64 2.2ghz dual-core
[18:36] <gverig> spleencheesemonk: you can try that... you can try "repair" from the CD but overall I would really recommend getting at least somewhat familiar with cli.   I keep apt-listchanges on just so I dont have to go digging for these types of things.
[18:37] <mattik> Hello, could you prefer linux adventure game for hardy heron? It can be demo or shareware.
[18:37] <Rachel84> Oh, one more thing.... Will LVM2 have any problems working with many (6 or so) USB HDDs? I've heard it said that RAID won't work at all across several USB discs.
[18:37] <spleencheesemonk> gverig. i can just about navigate, but don't know where to go to view necessary files
[18:37] <methods> which pkg is it for java in firefox ?
[18:37] <tacit> mattik: nethack
[18:37] <wols> Rachel84: theoretically the number of disks is unlimited
[18:37] <Josdell> Hey everyone I need help restoring my wired connection, its completely gone, ifconfig -a doesn't list eth0
[18:37] <methods> please help!
[18:37] <neeto> Is it possible to have more than one device enabled using ndiswrapper?
[18:37] <corrosione> wols after installing ubuntu 8.04 desktop amd64, i restart and it says connect boot device or insert proper media and press any key, no i dont have floppy in drive, and yes i took cd out of drive
[18:38] <wols> Josdell: what NIC chip do you have (see lspci)
[18:38] <coping> bye every body I want to pyay my ubuntu
[18:38] <ikonia> wols: (real limit is 168 - as a side unusual fact ) :)
[18:38] <coping> quit
[18:38] <wols> corrosione: reinstall grub
[18:38] <wols> !grub | corrosione
[18:38] <ms1989> wols: when i click the link ubuntu gave me it doesn't do anything
[18:38] <mattik> tacit: thank you. Do you know more games?
[18:38] <docgnome> php4? hardy? anyone? I can't find it in the repo anywhere
[18:38] <wols> ms1989: which linke xactly?
[18:38] <m1r> ihcus: check under /apps/gnome-power-manager/ for diferent options
[18:38] <Rachel84> I've heard rumours that USB contention brings the thing to its knees ... but is that just for RAID and not LVM?
[18:38] <Josdell> wols: 08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)
[18:38] <]josh[> hi guys, i need some help with bash scripting
[18:38] <Larrxi> ikonia: do you know how to set udev rules?
[18:38] <markf> basvg: you're not responding anymore... im sorry, i have to shutdown bc my battery is almost empty
[18:38] <corrosione> actually i lost it after installing ubuntu
[18:38] <ms1989> wols: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:38] <corrosione> or should i say while installing .. it skip grub apparently
[18:38] <tacit> mattik: Sure.
[18:38] <ikonia> Rachel84: for any persistant disk access
[18:38] <]josh[> i am trying to isolate a recieved from header in a maildir file
[18:38] <ikonia> Larrxi: sure
[18:38] <wols> docgnome: there is no php4 anymore anywhere. php4 is utterly gone, and good riddance, may it never haunt us again
[18:39] <Peng> Pici: apt-listchanges looks nifty. Thanks for the tip. :)
[18:39] <ms1989> wols: sorry i'm a newbie to linux
[18:39] <m1r> bobboy: apt-get remove --purge transmission
[18:39] <mattik> tacit: ;) thanks. Is it some ubuntu gamers or?
[18:39] <spleencheesemonk> is there a keyboard shortcut that brings up a terminal in the gui?
[18:39] <markf> bye bye
[18:39] <basvg> markf: my bad... kids needed me
[18:39] <basvg> markf: thanks so far!
[18:39] <wols> ms1989: it works fine here. but there are thousands others. paste2.org  rafb.net pastebin.ca pastebin.com etc
[18:39] <markf> basvg:  oh, you're welcome.
[18:39] <tacit> mattik: No, these are from the whole FLOSS community and not from some guys who just came in late.
[18:40] <timo_> can somebody recommend me a non-openssl-affected livecd? I need to sign something on a disconnected machine.
[18:40] <wols> ms1989: google "pastebin" and you will have loads
[18:40] <bobboy> m1r:  is that the command that delete the program AND the config files? are am i getting them confused?
[18:40] <Josdell> wols: my ethernet controller is 08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)
[18:40] <wols> timo_: some none debian derived Livecd
[18:40] <wols> Josdell: poor you. boradcom
[18:40] <urthmover> anyone here triple booted a Macbook Pro?
[18:40] <mattik> tacit: Thank you :)
[18:40] <m1r> bobboy: it will purge all transmission data
[18:40] <basvg> yay, I found the dir on the cam where the MPG files are stored. Well, another problem solved, thanks
[18:40] <Josdell> wols: i know, sucks, but any help?
[18:40] <tacit> mattik: Well nethack might be not the adventure you expect. It's a very good game, though. You can also play and scumm based games. Also try freeciv, armagetron.
[18:41] <urthmover> nethack is a blast
[18:41] <davem_> urthmover: yes, you're planning an ubuntu/osx/vista config I assume?
[18:41] <wols> Josdell: modprobe b44  maybe it works
[18:41] <urthmover> davem_: XP not vista
[18:41] <Nasra> can any1 help me get my network printer up and running....just bought it brand new....but somehow Ubuntu 8.04 LTS does not recognize it...Am I missing anything that you know of?
[18:41] <Josdell> wols: will try
[18:41] <urthmover> but yeah something like that
[18:41] <mattik> tacit: Thank you. I try free games then.
[18:41] <Larrxi> ikonia: nice, how do you learned to configure it?
[18:42] <davem_> urthmover: xp is easier :), bootcamp will do it
[18:42] <ikonia> Larrxi: I read the docs
[18:42] <PMantis> How can I check my rsa key tosee when it was generated?
[18:42] <wols> Josdell: otherwise broadcom.com has a drivre too but you'd need to compile it yourself :(
[18:42] <Larrxi> ikonia: i'll try that
[18:42] <Josdell> wols: alright i did your command now how do i check?
[18:42] <bobboy> m1r: tried the command and it said Package transmission is not installed, so not removed
[18:42] <urthmover> davem_:  I already have it dual booted XP/OSX  how do I put the ubuntu one on  .... and still use rEFIt somehow?
[18:42] <wols> Josdell: lsmod. but no output is good news for the modprobe command
[18:42] <Draggin> See you all later - thnks for great advice again :)
[18:42] <ms1989> wols: my internet has gone really slow so maybe that's the problem
[18:43] <Nasra> can any1 help me get my network printer up and running....just bought it brand new....but somehow Ubuntu 8.04 LTS does not recognize it...Am I missing anything that you know of?  could it be the drivers ?....
[18:43] <davem_> urthmover: r, that should work - I think the problems lie with install windows *after* linux - you have to wach out for partitioning problems
[18:43] <urthmover> ook I'll read up on that thanks davem_
[18:44] <m1r> bobboy, then it shouldnt recive any transmission data on upgrade
[18:44] <Josdell> wols: got it thanks so much, i was up 3 hours last night configuring my system and all i needed was that, I suck lol
[18:44] <Josdell> wols: see ya guys thanks for all
[18:44] <bobboy> m1r: The following NEW packages will be installed:
[18:44] <bobboy>   openssl-blacklist
[18:44] <bobboy> The following packages will be upgraded:
[18:44] <bobboy>   openssh-client ssh-askpass-gnome ssl-cert transmission-common update-manager
[18:44] <bobboy>   update-manager-core wine
[18:44] <FloodBot1> bobboy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:45] <jdavies> !libsslbug | bobboy
[18:45] <bobboy> m1r: did you see that or did the floodbot1 delete it? lol
[18:45] <]josh[> i am trying to isolate a recieved from header in a maildir file with bash, any ideas?
[18:45] <]josh[> would this work: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/67?
[18:46] <UbuntuLim> #ubuntu-nl
[18:46] <IndyGunFreak> how would i set up my computer(wired to a router), to view and share files w/ my laptop(wireless)
[18:46] <At0x0> When I click the logout (top right) icon on hardy heron, my system locks up for a solid minute before it appears. I can't click anything, switch windows, etc. Oddly, nothing is pegged (cpu,ram,net,load,hdd,etc). Any ideas?
[18:46] <zerodamage> anyone have an idea for this error "Device descriptor read/64 -error 110"
[18:47] <m1r> boboy , check in synaptic for transmission to see if any packages left ?
[18:47] <epoxxy> dod damn! I've tried it all! tried all webbrowsers for ubuntu (with atleast 3 stars) and even "ie4linux" but still no sound in flash-files at the same time as etc music plays???!!!
[18:47] <tim167> can someone help me make a bootable USB drive ? i followed these instructions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent did everything correctly, but nothing happens when I try to boot from it
[18:47] <ubuntuisloved> using gnome can i change the compression ratio of right clicking in nautilis
[18:47] <kexp903> tim167: is you're bios set to boot from usb?
[18:48] <leif_> hmmm do i need a lib to run buy dvd
[18:48] <tim167> kexp903:yes, but it seems as if its not there
[18:48] <kexp903> tim167: so you're BIOS is capable of usb boot
[18:48] <tim167> kexp903: it just skips to the internal drive
[18:48] <lepidoptera> could some one explain how to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 using the CD-rom
[18:48] <bobboy> m1r: yes the transmission-common package is still isntalled and marked as upgradable
[18:49] <spleencheesemonk> thank you poppills - sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop worked!  thank you thank you thank you!
[18:49] <tim167> kexp903: i select 'removeable device' in the boot sequence
[18:49] <Chipsa964> lepidoptera, just put it in and reboot :-p
[18:49] <spleencheesemonk> happy :D
[18:49] <PoPpiLLs> np
[18:49] <kexp903> tim167: that is not usb, who is the BIOS manufac?
[18:49] <PoPpiLLs> :)
[18:49] <ms1981> wols : past bin works now what did you need (it's about the iwconfig that didn't work)
[18:50] <zerodamage> how do you disable this error message, "Device descriptor read"?
[18:50] <lepidoptera> booting will not upgrade ... wouldn't it
[18:50] <Chipsa964> yeah but it gives you the option
[18:50] <Chipsa964> to install
[18:50] <wols> ms1981: iwconfig output and what you type in, ls -al /etc/network/interfaces and cat /etc/network/interfaces
[18:50] <Dread> hey all, i have a problem, i have no window manager because i think that compiz is screwed, ive just done an upgrade from fiesty to gutsy, and now i've got unmet dependancies, i try to run sudo apt-get install -f to fix them but then get the error: dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/compiz-plugins_1%3a0.6.2+git20071119-0ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb E:
[18:50] <Dread>  Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[18:50] <Chipsa964> just follow the on screen instructions
[18:50] <methods> my java doesn't work in firefox!!!!!!!!!
[18:50] <wols> ms1981: and lspci output
[18:50] <tim167> kexp903: it is a lenovo thinkcentre
[18:50] <wols> !java
[18:50] <ms1981> wols : ok wait a minut
[18:50] <mcphail> lepidoptera: any time i've used a cd to upgrade, i have just stuck it in the drive and let it get on with it. no need to reboot
[18:50] <Dread> in summary, no window manager, cant install anything or get apt working at all
[18:51] <Chipsa964> or you can just stick it in while youre in 7.10
[18:51] <Chipsa964> and go from there
[18:51] <Chipsa964> its easy
[18:51] <wols> Dread: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:51] <tim167> kexp903: i also tried USB HDD, USB KEY, USB CDROM, USB FDC, but none work
[18:51] <wols> Dread: pastebin the output
[18:51] <lepidoptera> when the CD is inserted nothing happens
[18:52] <kexp903__> methods: http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2008/04/things-to-do-on-your-new-ubuntu-804.html
[18:52] <Dread> wols: im afraid i cant, firefox crashes when i try to paste anything
[18:52] <Khalsa> Howdy, Fresh install of amd64 ubuntu 8.04, compaq f730us laptop, I can't get any USB device to work, e.g. I plugin a USB headset or webcam or mouse, and none are recognized/setup. When I plugin the mouse light flashes, then turns off
[18:52] <kexp903__> go there
[18:52] <el_taco> I have a samba server setup it works great just one problem, well more of an annoyance. In the config you pick the server name which I set. When browing from windows it gives this name but also in () gives the servers host name which I odn't want. anyone know what I mean?
[18:52] <wols> Dread: fiest line with "deb" in sources.list then
[18:52] <ms1981> wols: here is the link http://pastebin.com/m5f00b9da
[18:52] <tim167> kexp903__: i also tried USB HDD, USB KEY, USB CDROM, USB FDC, but none work
[18:52] <wols> Dread: you can paste that in here with it only being one line
[18:52] <kexp903__> tim167: I see, let me look into that, what is the revision and the version of the BIOS?
[18:52] <leachim6> ...redoing all of my ssh keys is a PitA
[18:52] <Chipsa964> i know it sounds silly, but did you burn the .iso correctly
[18:52] <tim167> kexp903 how can i check that ?
[18:52] <leachim6> how come it took so long to find this problem ?
[18:52] <Myxb> when i press power button on my laptop the logout menu no longer is brought up. how do i fix that?
[18:53] <jetsaredim> what's the command to find out what package a given file came from?
[18:53] <wols> ms1981: "lspci" only. and: the iwconfig stuff is all missing, ifconfig -a too
[18:53] <leachim6> apt-file
[18:53] <Dread> wols: deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted this?
[18:53] <SuperLag> the ncurses interface that you see during the install process... is there a way to get to that screen, post-install?
[18:53] <timboy> i'm having an issue with fonts on the web. I tried to copy all of my fonts from my windows box onto my ubuntu box and now the web fonts are messed up. can someone give me a hand?
[18:53] <leachim6> jetsaredim, apt-file
[18:53] <wols> Dread: yes. looks alright. apt-get update. what does it say?
[18:54] <bobboy> m1r: i think synaptic froze maybe? lol.. its just hanging there saying Removing transmission-common and the file is only 56.7kb and im on a 1.5ghz dual core, 2 gb ram computer
[18:54] <wols> SuperLag: ncurses interface for what exactly?
[18:54] <Dread> wols: runs fine
[18:54] <Sergiu1> hello
[18:54] <wols> Dread: and apt-get install <stuff>?
[18:54] <bobboy> m1r: nvm there it goes.. heres goes with the apt-get update
[18:54] <SuperLag> wols: configuring the network interfaces
[18:54] <ggeecko> can someone suggest an alternative to phpsysinfo??
[18:54] <Sergiu1> why ubuntu use in hardy the unstable version of rtorrent, not stable.
[18:54] <ms1981> wols : here are the new link http://pastebin.com/m4e776612
[18:55] <Sergiu1> =]
[18:55] <jamiejackson> i'm trying to share a folder on a usb drive (FAT), but it's giving me grief.  other FS on other partitions are showing up with fairly sensible permissions, but the fat is giving drwx------  6 root  root <-- i'm assuming this is part of my problem?
[18:55] <wols> SuperLag: not to my knowledge. but man interfaces
[18:55] <Dread> wols: i get the above error, told to try apt-get install -f then get told that dpkg is screwed when i try that
[18:55] <wols> Dread: WHAT error?
[18:55] <xim> whats the difference between screenlets and desklets?
[18:55] <wols> ms1981: you have no wlan
[18:55] <Dread> wols: my original post: dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/compiz-plugins_1%3a0.6.2+git20071119-0ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[18:55] <wols> ms1981: ie no PCI WLAN card
[18:55] <d[X_X]b> in hardy their is no "/home/myname/.Trash"   where did it go?
[18:56] <bobboy> m1r: how do you know when to use dist-upgrade or just upgrade?
[18:56] <kyleky> How Can I enable mysql to listen from outside connections?
[18:56] <ms1981> wols : but in windows it says it's a usb card, but it's build in
[18:56] <kexp903__> tim167: Bios info?
[18:56] <wols> ms1981: lsusb. you need to find out what card it is to load the driver for it
[18:57] <wols> kexp903__: yes, enable port 3306 in /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[18:57] <wols> kexp903__: however, it's a very very stupid idea
[18:57] <tim167> kexp903__: yes, how do i check it ?
[18:57] <elmargol> someone knows where fetchmail stores mails not delivered yet?
[18:58] <ms1981> wols : it's a RTL 8187b card and http://pastebin.com/m35fe7278
[18:58] <wols> tim167: ny reading you mobo docs
[18:58] <ms1981> wols : it's a card from realtek
[18:58] <kexp903__> tim167: when boot press the pause key and tell me the ver, and rev
[18:58] <lepidoptera> some one pls help me to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 using the CD. I'm new to this.
[18:58] <wols> ms1981: then load the driver for that
[18:58] <kexp903__> wols: huh?
[18:58] <wols> !wlan | ms1981
[18:59] <timboy> i'm having an issue with fonts on the web. I tried to copy all of my fonts from my windows box onto my ubuntu box and now the web fonts in firefox are messed up. can someone give me a hand?
[19:00] <Dread> wols: any clue on my error?
[19:00] <wols> ms1981: but it IS a shitty wlan card under linux
[19:00] <wols> Dread: dpkg-reconfigure the package. alternatively remove said package (and purge it too!) with dpkg
[19:00] <mw-home> I upgraded my ssh packages this morning because of a security alert and now I can't make an ssh connection to any external box.  I can ssh to localhost though.
[19:00] <Dread> wols: thx, will try
[19:00] <tim167> kexp903__: rev 2E37A, flash eeprom revision level: 2EKT42AUS, date 11/29/06
[19:00] <ms1981> wols : in the list there is no doc about my card
[19:01] <tim167> kexp903__: 2E37A is 'Boot Block revision level'
[19:01] <Larrxi> ikonia: i found it, the file 60-persistent-input.rules. thank you for your help!
[19:01] <kyleky> How do I unblock mysql in ubuntu (port 3306?)
[19:01] <bobboy> when should someone use apt-get dist-upgrade instead of apt-get upgrade?
[19:01] <gverig> Anybody had sound conflicts with Heron? Flash/XMMS/Miro?
[19:02] <lepidoptera>  some one pls help me to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 using the CD. I'm new to this.
[19:02] <d[X_X]b> in hardy their is no "/home/myname/.Trash"   where did it go?
[19:02] <Pici> !trash | d[X_X]b
[19:02] <d[X_X]b> thank you
[19:03]  * ASUS-tek free open souce ubuntu mag hope u all love it as me http://fullcirclemagazine.org/
[19:03] <wols> ms1981: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsRealTek
[19:03] <wols> see the comments section there for your chip, especially all the links
[19:03] <wols> not painless to use but doable, even if you have to use ndiswrapper
[19:03] <e\ectro_> anyone know the pkg name for Net::Appliance::Session ?
[19:04] <GnomeBoy> hello i installed ubuntu hardy heron daily build and b43-fwcutter, but sudo ifconfig doesnt show my wireless card (BCM94311)
[19:04] <vix85> How do I install java, and the java plugin for firefox for my Ubuntu 8.04 x64
[19:04] <Jack_Sparrow> lepidoptera Do you have the alternatecd or the dvd.. the live doews not have that option for upgrade
[19:04] <wols> e\ectro_: apt-cache probably does
[19:04] <wols> !java | vix85
[19:04] <GnomeBoy> vix85, there is no java plugin for x64
[19:04] <Jack_Sparrow> GnomeBoy the bcm943 is NOT the same as the bcm43
[19:04] <d[X_X]b> what is dbus i see it in compiz ccsm and pidgin plugin
[19:04] <wols> "wlan | GnomeBoy
[19:05] <timboy> i'm having an issue with fonts on the web. I tried to copy all of my fonts from my windows box onto my ubuntu box and now the web fonts in firefox are messed up. can someone give me a hand?
[19:05] <wols> GnomeBoy: b43 has now native drivers IIRC
[19:05] <vix85> GnomeBoy: like I thought.. so I have to use java for 32 bits ?
[19:05] <jamiejackson> is there anything special i need to do to share something off a FAT partition on a USB drive? the internal HD shares out folders just fine, but i'm having real problems trying to share from the USB FAT partition
[19:05] <frogscott1> Hi CapaH sorry for the blow up yesterday
[19:05] <wols> vix85: java for 64bit does not exist
[19:05] <GnomeBoy> wols, so what do i have to install to get it working ?
[19:05] <wols> at least not in a meaningufl manner
[19:05] <crd1b> d[X_X]b: dbus is a system for inter-process communication
[19:05] <vix85> wols: like I thought, so can I use java for the 32 bits version?
[19:06] <wols> !wlan | GnomeBoy
[19:06] <GnomeBoy> vix85 you could search for IcedTea
[19:06] <wols> GnomeBoy: most likely nothing
[19:06] <d[X_X]b> crd1b by that u mean.....?
[19:06] <GnomeBoy> but on Debian it worked fine
[19:06] <CarlFK> i accedently setup 4gig of swap - will that cause any problems?  like can the 32bit OS use 4g swap + .5g ram ?
[19:06] <timboy> CarlFK, no
[19:07] <bazzieb> what does ntop do?
[19:07] <wols> CarlFK: depends how many processes you have
[19:07] <wols> each one can max use 3,5GB basically
[19:07] <wols> but: 4GB swap and only .5GB ram is a serious mismatch
[19:07] <Pici> bazzieb: network top, monitors your network connections
[19:08] <timboy> CarlFK, you can use partimage and resize the swap if you want.
[19:08] <bazzieb> how do i view the graphical interface of ntop?
[19:08] <wols> he can simply unmount and delete it and recreate it
[19:08] <timboy> CarlFK, sorry gparted
[19:08] <yotsuba_> So I had the Synaptic Package manager download the packages for VLC, but where were they placed?
[19:09] <wols> bazzieb: ntop listens on a port IIRC: connect to that with a browser
[19:09] <bobboy> how does one know to use apt-get dist-upgrade for updating regularly (not Gutsy to Hardy) compared to apt-get upgrade?
[19:09] <wols> yotsuba_: dpkg -L <packagename>
[19:09] <timboy> i'm having an issue with fonts on the web. I tried to copy all of my fonts from my windows box onto my ubuntu box and now the web fonts in firefox are messed up. can someone give me a hand?
[19:09] <At0x0> When I click the logout (top right) icon on hardy heron, my system locks up for a solid minute before it appears. I can't click anything, switch windows, etc. Oddly, nothing is pegged (cpu,ram,net,load,hdd,etc). Any ideas?
[19:09] <wols> bobboy: apt-get update and then dist-upgrade
[19:09] <GnomeBoy> wols, on debian i just needed bcm43xx-fwcutter an b43-fwcutter to get the card working
[19:09] <wols> nothing about it
[19:10] <bobboy> wols: yes but when use dist-upgrade compared to just upgrade?
[19:10] <wols> GnomeBoy: debian has a 2.6.18 kernel. ubuntu si a bit newer an dhas the 802.11 stack
[19:10] <GnomeBoy> wols, so i cant do anything ?
[19:10] <wols> bobboy: when you want
[19:10] <Pici> bobboy: dist-upgrade pulls in packages that have new dependencies, upgrade does not./
[19:10] <wols> novato_br: I told you what you can do
[19:10] <wols> GnomeBoy: ^^
[19:10] <Pici> bobboy: I always use dist-upgrade
[19:10] <tds5016> anyone know what extension I need to get compiz to act like expose on a mac?
[19:10] <bobboy> Thankyou Pici and wols
[19:10] <Flannel> bobboy: dist-upgrade, for instance, will pull in new kernel versions (since the new kernel actually changes package names, due to the version number)
[19:11] <tds5016> where I move to one corner of the screen and all fo the windows scale down, and you click on the window t choose it.
[19:11] <GnomeBoy> i really nee my wireless network card
[19:11] <neuromancer> tds5016: ctrl+E
[19:11] <jamiejackson> GnomeBoy, what's the model, again?
[19:11] <wols> tds5016: http://www.google.com/search?q=expose+for+compiz
[19:11] <bobboy> before i go can someone promise to also give a thanks to m1r???... k thankyou Flannel
[19:11] <bazzieb> on the install page it said i need to browse http://<IP_ADDRESS>:3000 but nothing seems to happening?
[19:11] <GnomeBoy> jamiejackson, 10:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02)
[19:12] <timboy> GnomeBoy, unfortunately this is one of the large failings of linux...
[19:12] <jamiejackson> i've got v1 of that card, and the restricted drivers didn't work for me. here's my wiki tho: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[19:12] <jamiejackson> it's ndiswrapper instructions for bcm43xx cards
[19:12] <tds5016> I think there's an extesion called expose in compiz....
[19:12] <NetWrm> hiya all
[19:13] <tds5016> I am looking for the one that acts like the mac expose.
[19:13]  * NetWrm finally decided to try ubuntu
[19:13] <GnomeBoy> jamiejackson, are there any disadvantages ?
[19:13] <neuromancer> recently turned on my machine to find both xp and ubuntu had ceased working.  put it down to a faulty power supply that keep corrupting my HDD's with bad sectors (5th hard drive in 2 years)... i get a DRDY UNC error.  = drive not ready to read, and uncorrectable error.  is there anyway to salvage my system without reformatting? - I have all my data backed up! ;)
[19:13] <Pici> tds5016: expo perhaps, ask in #compiz-fusion for more specific configuration
[19:13] <neuromancer> tds5016: ctrl+E
[19:13] <jamiejackson> only advantages, GnomeBoy ndiswrapper is faster than native drivers, but harder to set up
[19:13] <bazzieb> Netwrm you from SA??
[19:13] <NetWrm> oh yeah
[19:13] <timboy> tds5016, not too sure what expose is... is that the one where it shoes all the current open windows?
[19:13] <NetWrm> cape town
[19:13] <neuromancer> tds5016: super + E even sorry!
[19:13] <NetWrm> heh
[19:13] <bazzieb> sweet
[19:13] <bazzieb> Jozie myself
[19:13] <neuromancer> tds5016: is it where it zooms out to show 4 desktops?
[19:13] <NetWrm> ahaa cool
[19:13] <jamiejackson> if you do the wiki, GnomeBoy, pastebin your lsmod before starting
[19:13] <NetWrm> very cold here tonight
[19:13] <tds5016> nope.
[19:13] <GnomeBoy> jamiejackson, i read that ndiswrapper will be removed with kernel 2.6.25.X
[19:14] <tds5016> I'm looking for the one that shows all open windows.
[19:14] <crd1b> d[X_X]b: communication between processes; exactly what it sounds like
[19:14] <bazzieb> not to bad here
[19:14] <tds5016> timboy yes.
[19:14] <neuromancer> tds5016: with a mouse movement to top right?
[19:14] <jamiejackson> what do you mean "removed" GnomeBoy?
[19:14] <wols> GnomeBoy: it's kinda in limbo. will be in .26 for example
[19:14] <tds5016> or the bottom right....
[19:14] <tds5016> as I'd like to set it, but yes.
[19:14] <neuromancer> tds5016: its under scale you need to set the binding.
[19:14] <wols> but the solution is a bad one yes (ndiswrapper)
[19:14] <timboy> tds5016, it's called scale and is installed by default. If you install compizconfig-settings-manager then you can configure bindings
[19:14] <Pici> tds5016: Like I said, join #compiz-fusion for specific plugin help.
[19:14] <InforMed> Hi! Can you help-me install ipw3945 drivers on Hardy... http://www.klamstwo.org/evad/archives/59 at the end of that page is a how-to but I'm getting errors... Help!!!! PLEASE!
[19:14] <neuromancer> tds5016: the guys over at #compiz-fusion would've been able to help ;)
[19:14] <tds5016> I was looking for one where I could move it to a corder...
[19:15] <wols> InforMed: unless yu tell us the errors we can't heloop
[19:15] <tds5016> where's the corners option?
[19:15] <neuromancer> bindings
[19:15] <ms1989> wols : I used this how-to " https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NdiswrapperOnAMD64 " and had this terminal " The update-modules command is deprecated and should not be used!" (about the realtek wifi card)
[19:16] <timboy> tds5016, click on scale and then under bindings "initiate window picker for all windows"
[19:17] <lech> yo
[19:17]  * milia hi
[19:17] <timboy> i'm having an issue with fonts on the web. I tried to copy all of my fonts from my windows box onto my ubuntu box and now the web fonts in firefox are messed up. can someone give me a hand?
[19:17] <GnomeBoy> jamiejackson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12101/
[19:17] <neuromancer> tds5016: google is your friend.  or there is a dedicated channel for your issue
[19:17] <bazzieb> could any1 help me as too why my ntop is not working in my browser?
[19:18] <wols> ms1989: there is no "update modules" in that howto
[19:18] <evil_tech> how do you reconfigure the xserver from command line? sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesnt seem to work anymore
[19:18] <neuromancer> is there a way to detect and isolate bad sectors and salvage a system that won't load that has been afflicted in ubuntu?
[19:18] <wols> evil_tech: it does
[19:18] <ms1989> wols : I can see a wirreless option now, but how do I seek for a wifipoint
[19:18] <wols> evil_tech: if you are root (sudo)
[19:18] <evil_tech> not like it use to
[19:18] <evil_tech> only enables framebuffer and keyboard options
[19:18] <wols> neuromancer: install smartmon-tools. let it do a long test
[19:18] <tds5016> that's not under scale in ccsm.
[19:19] <neuromancer> I have an error message that contains ata1.00: status {DRDY}
[19:19] <wols> evil_tech: -plow then as an option
[19:19] <tds5016> there it is!
[19:19] <tds5016> thanks!!!
[19:19] <dan> how do i get to a non x  terminal in ubuntu?
[19:19] <jamiejackson> GnomeBoy: your hardy fix should be the same as mine, according to your lsmod. when you get to the hardy bug fix section, do this instead http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4931090&postcount=582
[19:19] <neuromancer> wols: use this from a livecd?
[19:19] <wols> neuromancer: buy a new disk, NOW. seriously
[19:19] <neuromancer> wols: this is a new disk
[19:19] <dan> need ot install adiriver without x running
[19:19] <sa125> need help - I've tried reparing the gnome-power-manager by apt-get remove and then install, and now my system won't get past the login screen (Ubuntu 8.04)
[19:19] <wols> neuromancer: sure, knoppix has it installed by default for example
[19:19] <neuromancer> wols: I've been through 5 recently
[19:19] <simNIX> jamie: Ctrl_Alt+Fx
[19:19] <wols> neuromancer: then RMA it, it'S BORKEN
[19:19] <InforMed> wols -- ERROR: A compatible subsystem was not found in the following path[s]:
[19:19] <InforMed> 	/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/build/include/ /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/build/
[19:19] <neuromancer> wols: this I think is more a dodgy power supply issue that is affecting the disks
[19:19] <wols> InforMed: doing what?
[19:19] <neuromancer> wols: it is very old and perhaps under powered
[19:20] <wols> neuromancer: unlikely
[19:20] <mcphail> dan: Ctrl-Alt-F2, login then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[19:20] <neuromancer> wols: it can't be that all my drives are faulty?!
[19:20] <wols> underpowered PSUs crash your PC, they don't kill hdds
[19:20] <jetsaredim> anyone know where these rsa blacklist files are generated from?
[19:20] <MasseR> Is there a way to disable the emergency x server?
[19:20] <dan> is there a  way to get to a termina without-----cooo thanks
[19:20] <wols> neuromancer: it can be your case is 50°C+
[19:20] <MasseR> It breaks everything
[19:20] <neuromancer> wols: it hasn't killed it but it corrupts the system and creates bad sectors
[19:20] <wols> neuromancer: a bad sector is a borken disk
[19:20] <neuromancer> wols: no temp is not too high
[19:20] <MasseR> I was trying to get two monitors working, but whenever I had faulty xorg.conf it broke everything
[19:20] <neuromancer> wols: bad sectors can sometimes be fixed by low-level formatting can't they?
[19:21] <wols> MasseR: simply restart your X server
[19:21] <enjahova> when is the next hardy heron update? will it include the full version of FF3?
[19:21] <MasseR> wols: Won't listen to me
[19:21] <MasseR> It doesn't listen to any keyboard commands
[19:21] <wols> neuromancer: depends what you think a bad sector actually is
[19:21] <Pici> enjahova: FF3 hasnt been released yet.
[19:21] <wols> MasseR: go to a console killall -9 X
[19:21] <enjahova> Pici: i know, but maybe it will be by the time the update is out
[19:21] <MasseR> wols: Can't go to console
[19:21] <wols> MasseR: if that doesn't work: reboot
[19:21] <InforMed> wols, make
[19:21] <InforMed> wols can you read the how-to at the end of the site http://www.klamstwo.org/evad/archives/59 and help-me?
[19:21] <hwilde> !dualhead | MasseR
[19:21] <At0x0> When I click the logout (top right) icon on hardy heron, my system locks up for a solid minute before it appears. I can't click anything, switch windows, etc. Oddly, nothing is pegged (cpu,ram,net,load,hdd,etc). Any ideas?
[19:21] <MasseR> wols: I rebooted the computer about 50 times when I tried to fix it
[19:21] <Pici> enjahova: 8.04.1 is going to be released around June or July.
[19:21] <wols> MasseR: your crashed your system. happy rebooting. maybe next time try to revive it via a running sshd
[19:21] <neuromancer> wols: http://www.howtofixcomputers.com/forums/just-fix/has-my-hardrive-power-supply-went-bad-62515.html
[19:21] <GnomeBoy> jamiejackson, pretty nice HowTo :)
[19:21] <enjahova> Pici: thanks
[19:21] <wols> MasseR: then reboot 51st time. delete xorg.conf and dpkg-reconfigure your xserver
[19:21] <neuromancer> wols: done *lots* of research into this and before i bought the new drive I thought it was the power supply
[19:22] <neuromancer> wols: got the new drive and it worked for a while but it's only gone and done the same so the power supply is deffo to blame
[19:22] <mcphail> MasseR: if the keyboard doesn't seem to work, try "Alt-SysRq-R"
[19:22] <wols> neuromancer: then the question remains: why did you hook up the new hdd on the falty PSU that as you claim already has killed 4 others?
[19:22] <MasseR> mcphail: That's what I did to reboot
[19:22] <neuromancer> wols: to test
[19:22] <jetsaredim> MasseR: what kind of card(s) are you using?
[19:22] <GnomeBoy> jamiejackson, do i have to install b43-fwcutter ? cause in the howto i read: modprobe b43
[19:22] <hwilde> wols, lol
[19:22] <jdahm_> all of a sudden eth0 no longer exists, is there an easy way to fix this?
[19:22] <MasseR> jetsaredim: Don't laugh. Ati
[19:23] <sa125> At0x0: I had the same prob and reinstalled gnome-power-manager and it worked fine afterwards.. but I did an update soon after and now it wont get past the login screen - I think I may have broken some dependencies, so be careful.
[19:23] <hwilde> jdahm_, sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[19:23] <jetsaredim> MasseR: which ati driver are you using?
[19:23] <martin100> hallo is hardware-guru online?
[19:23] <MasseR> jetsaredim: Both ati and fglrx
[19:23] <jetsaredim> open or closed
[19:23] <hwilde> !ati | MasseR
[19:23] <neuromancer> wols: now I need a new PSU but I want to try to fix the system for the time being
[19:23] <wols> jdahm_: depends what went wrong
[19:23] <jdahm_> hwilde: No such interface
[19:23] <hwilde> jdahm_, that's not good :/
[19:23] <jetsaredim> take a look at the gentoo wiki
[19:23] <neuromancer> wols: I'll reinstall once I get the new equipment I need
[19:23] <jdahm_> hwilde: no, it's no :P
[19:23] <wols> neuromancer: won't help. you just get new bad sectors and more crashing again
[19:23] <hwilde> jdahm_, run "sudo ifconfig -a" and see if it just came up as a different name
[19:23] <jetsaredim> err MasseR: take a look at the gentoo wiki article on dual monitors
[19:24] <neuromancer> wols: yeah, I am expecting that
[19:24] <jdahm_> hwilde: nope, only lo shows up
[19:24] <Grejao> have some linux filesystem that i can resize them?  ( no lvm)
[19:24] <hwilde> !gparted | Grejao
[19:24] <wols> jdahm_: lspci and lsmod
[19:24] <timboy> i'm having an issue with fonts on the web. I tried to copy all of my fonts from my windows box onto my ubuntu box and now the web fonts in firefox are messed up. can someone give me a hand?
[19:24] <MasseR> jetsaredim: The problem is that I did get two monitors to 'work' but even though I had 2560x800 the second monitor was 1024x768 and the first one 1280x800
[19:24] <hwilde> jdahm_, I dunno then... it doesn't exist for some reason.    try  "sudo modprobe e100"
[19:24] <neuromancer> wols: can't afford a PSU yet and want to utilise some of my system for a while ;)
[19:24] <MasseR> Therefore it got squashed horizontally and was left out vertically
[19:25] <jetsaredim> MasseR: it really depends on how your xorg.conf is setup and what your monitors will support
[19:25] <neuromancer> wols: I know it won't last long but it's better than booting into a flashdrive install all the time
[19:25] <MasseR> jetsaredim: yep. i had it working with that setup on 7.10
[19:25] <jetsaredim> MasseR: I found with my nvidia dual head setup - it was almost easier to get working if I wrote the entire xorg.conf file by hand rather than use the tools
[19:25] <Grejao> ubottu, hwilde, i ask for some "Linux" filesystem that i can resize, eg. ext3, reiserfs, xfs ... i can resize it?
[19:25] <neuromancer> wols: I know it sounds strange but it *is* possible for a dodgy PSU to create bad sectors when the power drops out and such
[19:25] <MasseR> jetsaredim: Not much different than what I did eventually :)
[19:26] <sa125> anyone knows how to resolve a broken dependency from terminal?
[19:26] <wols> sa125: pastebin the apt-get output
[19:26] <jdahm_> hwilde: well, nothing works :P
[19:26] <tim167> im trying to install ubuntu on a usb key from the live cd, it stalles at 'installing system', 5%...any ideas ?
[19:27] <Konam> is 'chmod 755 *' the same as 'chmod +x *'?
[19:27] <wols> jdahm_: I asked you something
[19:27] <neuromancer> sa125: sudo apt-get install -f    or sudo apt-get build-dep <program>  -- i think?!
[19:27] <sa125> wols: can't really, its another machine... let me type a sec
[19:27] <jamiejackson> sorry for the delay, GnomeBoy, no, this doesn't have anything to do with b43-fwcutter
[19:28] <GnomeBoy> jamiejackson, thank you very much... WLAN is working now
[19:28] <jetsaredim> MasseR: check out http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors#ATI
[19:28] <sa125> neuromancer: neither worked..
[19:28] <jamiejackson> congrats, GnomeBoy
[19:28] <neuromancer> sa125: what is wrong exactly
[19:29] <TuxPWNZ> Guys where can I find new applets for Avant?
[19:29] <timboy> i'm having an issue with fonts on the web. I tried to copy all of my fonts from my windows box onto my ubuntu box and now the web fonts in firefox are messed up. can someone give me a hand?
[19:30] <neuromancer> sa125: did your install of an app fail and break apt or are you not able to install due to unsatisfied deps?
[19:30] <sa125> neuromancer: I removed and re-installed gnome-pwr-manager and now my system (hardy) gets stuck after login screen
[19:30] <PCDJ> i am learning so much in last week how to run ubuntu
[19:30] <sa125> neuromancer: I'm using the terminal in recovery mode
[19:30] <PCDJ> thanks to all of those that have helped me
[19:30] <shoot^> guys, on kernel 2.6.24-17, my ATI Restricted driver is not in use (Restricted Drivers shows "enabled" but "not in use". It is enabled in xorg.conf, yet fglrxinfo returns "mesa". Any ideas?
[19:30] <neuromancer> sa125: are there any error messages?
[19:30] <wols> sa125: how is this a apt problem?
[19:30] <tds5016> anyone able to point me to a download of calibri that open office doesn't garble?
[19:30] <neuromancer> sa125: I agree this doesn't appear to be apt-related
[19:31] <planttt> I put the line 'mount /mnt/data' (a SMB mount in /etc/fstab) in my /etc/rc.local, but the drive doesn't get mounted on boot. How can I make Ubuntu 8.04 mount my SMB drives automatically on boot?
[19:31] <jamiejackson> how do i share a folder on a (FAT) USB drive? when i try to access a shared folder on the external drive, i can't access it the way i can with a shared folder on the internal drive
[19:31] <NetWrm> ok right I need some advice
[19:31] <NetWrm> how do I join a custom server
[19:31] <neuromancer> dsa125: did the reinstall fail in some way? how did it break the system?
[19:31] <sa125> well, I tried to build-dep for the gnome-pwr-mgr and it couldn't resolve some dependencies
[19:31] <NetWrm> on xchat gnome?
[19:31] <planttt> NetWrm: using /server
[19:31] <neuromancer> sa125: so what did you do?
[19:31] <wols> sa125: we can chat her until the crows come home IF YOU DON'T TELL US THE EXACT ERROR!
[19:31] <NetWrm> aaaa tks planttt
[19:32] <imterro> can anyone help me with openssh-server, i installed it, but there is nothing in my /ect/init.d/ so i cant run it
[19:32] <imterro> so therefore i cannot ssh into my machine
[19:32]  * neuromancer wants a new PSU from santa for xmas
[19:32] <wols> imterro: ls /etc/init.d/*ssh*
[19:33] <MasseR> jetsaredim: Thanks I'll check it out
[19:33] <planttt> imterro: you should be able to start it with 'services' in system->administration
[19:33] <timboy> i'm having an issue with fonts on the web. I tried to copy all of my fonts from my windows box onto my ubuntu box and now the web fonts in firefox are messed up they some fonts are too big and others are too small when viewing pages. I have IE installed in wine and it displays the pages fine. can someone give me a hand?
[19:33] <nikin> hy
[19:33] <imterro> planttt, it is not in that list
[19:34] <nikin> can anyone help what i have to change?
[19:34] <chazco> Hi... i need to remove Ubunut and install Windows until Hardy becomes usable. I plan to leave space for Ubuntu, how much would be suitable? Also, is there a utility to convert an ext2 partition to FAT32 (so both can access files)?
[19:34] <imterro> wols it just gives me one return: "ssh"
[19:34] <neuromancer> timboy: did you install ttf following a guide?
[19:34] <chazco> timboy - Mine does the same with the msttcorefonts
[19:34] <sa125> wols: "Failed to fetch http://ubnuntu.intergenia.de/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xmlto/xmlto_0.0.18-5.1build1_i386.deb could not resolve 'ubnuntu.intergenia.de'
[19:34] <imterro> and i cannot "start" ssh either
[19:34] <sa125> and many others like that one
[19:34] <wols> imterro: that's it!
[19:34] <nikin> hy.. i am using xubuntu but i want to use fluxbox... i made according .xinitrc file to use with startx, but this way NetworkManager does not work.. neither the authentication needed for network-admin and users-admin .. can anyone help what i have to change?
[19:34] <wols> so what does /etc/init.d/ssh restart say?
[19:34] <Pici> imterro: Is ssh installed?
[19:34] <imterro> wols,  i cant start that
[19:34] <wols> imterro: why not?
[19:34] <timboy> neuromancer, ues I created a folder dropped in my 2000+ fonts and then did a font update
[19:34] <timboy> chazco, did you fix it?
[19:35] <imterro> sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[19:35] <imterro> [sudo] password for peter:
[19:35] <imterro> sudo: /etc/init.d/ssh: command not found
[19:35] <wols> imterro: dpkg -l |grep ssh
[19:35] <chazco> timboy - Only be reverting to Gusty / ArchLinux i'm afraid... not the solution you wanted i imagine
[19:35] <Pici> imterro: How did you install openssh?
[19:35] <imterro> Pici, yes i got "openssh-server" from the repositorys
[19:35] <Pici> oh
[19:35] <Pici> k
[19:35] <wols> imterro: dpkg -l |grep ssh
[19:35] <imterro> Pici, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[19:35] <ErickGhint> Hey, guys. I'm very new to Linux... are there any ISO burning programs that anyone could recommend?
[19:36] <timboy> chazco, no not really. i'd rather fix it... ;)
[19:36] <Pici> imterro: That doesnt include the ssh client, you  know?
[19:36] <MilkmanDan> What's the prefered way to search for open bugs in Ubuntu?
[19:36] <Pici> !burning | ErickGhint many
[19:36] <Pici> !bugs | MilkmanDan
[19:36] <imterro> wols, ii  openssh-server                             1:4.7p1-8ubuntu1.1                                 secure shell server, an rshd replacement
[19:36] <imterro> it is installed
[19:36] <mcphail> ErickGhint: right click on it and selct burn
[19:36] <maiquel_> hi people someone help with Nvidia drivers 8600 Gt ubuntu 8.04??
[19:36] <PDF_q> hello I am having a lot of trouble installing the PDFlib, I tried some sites but it simply doesn't work, anyone know how to apt-get it somehow?
[19:36] <MilkmanDan> Thanks Pici
[19:36] <neuromancer> timboy: ttf's have to be installed in a certain way as opposed to installing the msttcorefonts package.  I'd be dubious about putting them on my system and would expect some anomalies from doing so :/
[19:36] <ErickGhint> mcphail: really?
[19:36] <chazco> timboy - It seems to be really random... Hardy on one machine had fonts really screwed up, another machine no issues. Same istall method.
[19:36] <compaqr4000> anyone running openfire out there?  Which version to install on Ubuntu, Debian or Red Hat?
[19:36] <mcphail> ErickGhint: in GNOME, yes
[19:37] <ErickGhint> I'm really starting not to miss windows at all.
[19:37] <neuromancer> ErickGhint: godd ;)
[19:37] <maiquel_> hi people someone help with Nvidia drivers 8600 Gt ubuntu 8.04??
[19:37]  * neuromancer meant good
[19:37] <imterro> wols, Pici, any ideas?
[19:37] <Pusselgenerator> Same here, ErickGhint :)
[19:37] <nikin> hy.. i am using xubuntu but i want to use fluxbox... i made according .xinitrc file to use with startx, but this way NetworkManager does not work.. neither the authentication needed for network-admin and users-admin .. can anyone help what i have to change?
[19:37] <timboy> neuromancer, so to fix this... should i remove that entire font directory and update fonts again? is there any safe way to add ttf's? I really like my fonts they work great in inkscape
[19:38] <ErickGhint> Did you just switch too, Pussel?
[19:38] <neuromancer> !ttf
[19:38] <neuromancer> !fonts
[19:38] <Pici> imterro: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart perhaps?
[19:38] <compaqr4000> ErickGhint, you will get to the point that when you do have to run windows for whatever reason, it will seem awkward and slow.
[19:38] <sa125> sooo... anyone knows how to fix this: "Failed to fetch http://ubnuntu.intergenia.de/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xmlto/xmlto_0.0.18-5.1build1_i386.deb could not resolve 'ubnuntu.intergenia.de'
[19:39] <Pici> sa125: Pick a new apt mirror
[19:39] <tactikalnuke> !find slackware
[19:39] <tactikalnuke> ;)
[19:39] <danners> hey does somebody know if there are debs from mpx (multi pointer X) avaible?
[19:39] <nekkidtruth> Is there anyone around who would be willing to walk me through partitioning for an Ubuntu install on a system that's already running XP?  I've installed before, but this new install for 8.04 seems different and I'm not sure how to partition correctly.
[19:39] <sa125> Pici: how do I do that on terminal?
[19:39] <mcphail> sa125: spell ubuntu correctly in /etc/apt/sources.list !
[19:39] <YouKnowMe> Help? I can see the printers on my linux box with samba using windows, but no folders. After coutless googles and restarts, can someone help?
[19:39] <ErickGhint> Comp: it's already starting to feel that way. I'm actually about to format my windows partition.
[19:39] <imterro> Pici, what would that do
[19:39] <imterro> it seemed to work
[19:40] <imterro> or to not give an error
[19:40] <maiquel_> How i installed drivers nvidia, 8600GT
[19:40] <maiquel_> ??
[19:40] <Pici> imterro: Thats another way of starting/stopping/restarting services
[19:40] <tactikalnuke> alas...not giving and error and working are 2 differant things :)
[19:40] <imterro> Pici, so my ssh is up and running?
[19:40] <shoot^> guys, I cant get FGLRX working at all on Hardy, with Kernel 2.6.24-17. fglrxinfo always returns mesa. Restricted Manager says it is enabled but not in use. Xorg.conf is configured to use fglrx. Anyone able to help?
[19:40] <compaqr4000> ErickGhint:  I've removed Windows XP on all of my 4 machines.  Just one left and that machine has enough hard drive space that keeping it there is not harming anything.
[19:40] <Pici> imterro: does ps aux | grep ssh   show it?
[19:40] <fbond> Hi, WRT USN-612-2; I don't see much mention of OpenVPN, but it is mentioned.  Should I regenerate all of my OpenVPN keys?
[19:40] <neuromancer> timboy: try that, but otherwise try choosing different system fonts perhaps?
[19:40] <tds5016> in firefox 3 in the default install of ubuntu... does anyone know how to get rid of the undo closed tab button the tabs bar?
[19:40] <imterro>  ps aux | grep ssh
[19:40] <imterro> peter    12686  0.0  0.0   5160   832 pts/2    R+   20:41   0:00 grep ssh
[19:41] <timboy> neuromancer, try what? that's how I installed them
[19:41] <imterro> Pici, not that i cant tell
[19:41] <Pici> imterro: Then no, its not running.
[19:41] <imterro> so what do i do to make it run?
[19:41] <Pici> imterro: What version of Ubuntu is this?
[19:41] <sa125> mcphail: I just typed that in here to show the error -- forgive my misspelling
[19:42] <imterro> 8.04
[19:42] <neuromancer> timboy: try _removing_them_ or assigning different system defaults ;)
[19:42] <ErickGhint> Comp: heh, i bought a prefab laptop the day Vista came out. Not that I wanted vista, it's just they wouldn't sell me a computer with XP on it. So I finally got fed up with it after about a year of crap.
[19:42] <nekkidtruth> I would really appreciate it if someone could privately message me to assist me with setting up proper partitions.  Thanks in advance.
[19:42] <mcphail> sa125: ahh. Sorry! A misspelling would stop the name being resolved as per the error...
[19:42] <Chapai> is there no fix for the invisible trashbin bug?
[19:42] <nikin> When does NetworkManager start? durning the booting/login process?
[19:42] <Flannel> imterro: You should have /etc/init.d/ssh
[19:42] <neuromancer> timboy: i was replying to your previous post : }
[19:42] <alv> hi
[19:42] <Flannel> imterro: if you don't, reinstall the openssh-server package
[19:42] <maiquel_> hi pepole how i install the drivers in ubuntu 8.04?? my device is GForce Nvidia 8600 Gt Fatality
[19:42] <mcphail> imterro: does "apt-cache policy openssh-server" show that it has been installed correctly?
[19:42] <timboy> neuromancer, oh gotcha. so how would i assign different system defaults?
[19:42] <sa125> mcphail: can you tell me how to switch the apt mirror through terminal?
[19:43] <gionnico> hi
[19:43] <gionnico> i've uninstalled ubuntu.. but the vista bootloader entry is still there. how can I delete it?
[19:43] <Flannel> sa125: edit /etc/apt/sources.list to point to the new mirror (sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list)
[19:43] <neuromancer> nikin: system> prefs> appearnace > fonts
[19:43] <neuromancer> timboy: ^^ meant for you
[19:43] <mcphail> sa125: you just need to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file in your favourite text editor (e.g. "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list")
[19:43] <neuromancer> nikin: ignore above
[19:44] <imterro> Flannel, i do have "ssh" in my init.d
[19:44] <imterro> Flannel, but it wont start
[19:44] <sa125> thanks
[19:44] <Flannel> imterro: What error does it give you?
[19:44] <danners> hey does somebody know if there are debs from mpx (multi pointer X) avaible?
[19:44] <Flannel> imterro: `sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start` gives what error?
[19:44] <imterro> Flannel, sudo: /etc/init.d/ssh: command not found
[19:44] <mcphail> sa125: run "sudo aptitude update" after you edit it
[19:44] <Marfi> what repository do i enable in order to install the latest beta driver for nvidia? im having trouble playing unreal tournament
[19:44] <ErickGhint> Just one more question and I'll be out of your hair. Just to be sure, the proper format for Ubuntu ( and possibly other distros ) would be ext3?
[19:44] <imterro> Flannel, `sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start`
[19:44] <leif_> does css run fine in wine
[19:45] <Pici> imterro: ls -l /etc/init.d/ssh
[19:45] <nikin> When does NetworkManager start? durning the booting/login process?
[19:45] <gionnico> i've uninstalled ubuntu.. but the vista bootloader entry is still there. how can I delete it?
[19:45] <imterro> mcphail, it shows that its installed correctly
[19:45] <mcphail> ErickGhint: one of the many you can use. I like ext3
[19:45] <nekkidtruth> I'm having difficulties with partitions while trying to install Ubuntu 8.04 on a machine currently running Windows XP.  There is 40gigs of free space I'd like to use for Ubuntu, but I can only use it if I choose "Manual" during the install.  I'd appreciate it if someone could walk me through correctly setting up the partitions.  I currently have GParted open and am willing to follow a guide if someone could poin
[19:45] <ErickGhint> mcphail: are there any advantages to ext3?
[19:46] <mcphail> imterro: "ls -l /etc/init.d/ssh"
[19:46] <imterro> Pici, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3839 2008-04-06 13:52 /etc/init.d/ssh
[19:46] <mcphail> ErickGhint: stable and well supported
[19:46] <ErickGhint> mcphail: ahh, thanks =)
[19:46] <sa125> mcphail - thanks, I'll  do that
[19:46] <Flannel> imterro: well, that'd do it.  As to why those perms are messed up....
[19:46] <leif_> how good does css run in wine
[19:46] <Pici> imterro: Thats not correct, have you done anything since you installed it? or did the install throw errors?
[19:46] <Pici> !appdb | leif_
[19:46] <wu5> where do i set autostart objects?
[19:46] <nikin> When does NetworkManager start? durning the booting/login process?
[19:47] <wu5> meaning, programs that are supposed to be loaded on startup
[19:47] <mcphail> imterro: i wonder why it isn't set executable?
[19:47] <imterro> Pici, no i havent done anythign since i installed it
[19:47] <Flannel> imterro: Try reinstalling the package, `sudo apt-get remove --purge openssh-server && sudo apt-get install openssh-server`
[19:47] <atlef> wu5: preferences - sessions
[19:47] <SiDi> hi everyone
[19:47] <nekkidtruth> I'm having difficulties with partitions while trying to install Ubuntu 8.04 on a machine currently running Windows XP.  There is 40gigs of free space I'd like to use for Ubuntu, but I can only use it if I choose "Manual" during the install.  I'd appreciate it if someone could walk me through correctly setting up the partitions.  I currently have GParted open and am willing to follow a guide if someone could p
[19:47] <kane77> wu5, System -> Preferences  -> Sessions
[19:47] <imterro> Flannel, reinstalled
[19:47] <imterro> ill try run it now
[19:48] <imterro> mcphail, i have no idea :S
[19:48] <Marfi> how do i install the libc header?
[19:48] <Flannel> Marfi: install the build-essential package
[19:48] <SiDi> Anyone who uses to know how to boot WinXP from grub with error 12 and menu.lst well setup?
[19:48] <wu5> right, thx
[19:48] <sa125> mcphail - I get an Error: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/*"... mind that I'm trying to do all this from recovery mode root terminal
[19:48] <jamiejackson> when you share folders from nautilus properties dialog, where do those changes go? they don't seem to go to /etc/samba/smb.conf?
[19:48] <Marfi> Flannel, duh, i knew that! ty
[19:49] <imterro> peter@Helvete:/etc/init.d$ sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[19:49] <imterro>  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server sshd                             [ OK ]
[19:49] <imterro> woot its running again
[19:49] <imterro> thanks alot
[19:49] <waite> I am running Kubuntu 8.04 with KDE 4.0.4 and zeroconf:/ ioslave shows nothing. I have kdnsds installed and avahi-disconver shows services. any ideas?
[19:49] <imterro> `sudo apt-get remove --purge openssh-server && sudo apt-get install openssh-server` was the command that fixed it incase you would like toknow
[19:50] <mcphail> sa125: do you know how to use vi?
[19:50] <imterro> do i need to add somethign to my iptables to allow me to ssh into my machine?
[19:50] <sa125> I'm a quick learner
[19:50] <Flannel> sa125, mcphail, just use nano
[19:50] <Flannel> imterro: No, only thing you'll need to do is port forward if you've got a router
[19:50] <mcphail> Flannel: sa125: yes - use that if you can get to it
[19:50] <imterro> hmmm
[19:50] <imterro> Flannel, because the connection times out when i try to ssh into my machine
[19:52] <ErickGhint> Well, thanks so much guys. I really appreciate the help =)
[19:52] <imterro> Flannel, nvm its working
[19:52] <imterro> thanks for the help everyone
[19:53] <maiquel_> hi people someone help with Nvidia drivers 8600 Gt ubuntu 8.04??
[19:53] <Bodsda> maiquel_, whats wrong with them?
[19:53] <gads_4> Hi all. Hey I am giving a presentation at a conference this weekend and need a "powerpoint" type slideshow for introducing Ubuntu to XP users. Anyone know where I can find one?
[19:53] <PDF_q> does anyone know how to install PDFlib with apt-get?
[19:53] <sa125> Flannel: sorry, I'm kind of new at all this... how do I use nano mode?
[19:54] <maiquel_> Bodsda, i dont know install the driver, do you have a how-to?
[19:54] <Bodsda> sa125, theres some pointers at the botom of the nano screen (note that ^Q means ctrl+q)
[19:54] <Flannel> sa125: `nano [file]` and then its just like a regular text editor, scroll around, type stuff.  ^ is ctrl, like Bodsda, just said.
[19:55] <Bodsda> maiquel_, go to System--> Admin--> Hardware Drivers, tick the Enable box then reboot
[19:55] <lucasv2> Hi, I'm using Firefox but it has awful memory leaks. can someone confirm that? at the moment it's not responding, taking up 95.5% of my cpu and sucking up 1gb of ram
[19:55] <babolat> If I installed Ubuntu Server in VBox, will I be able to use it just like I had a server?
[19:55] <mcphail> PDF_q: i don't think PDFlib is in the ubuntu repos. Is it free software?
[19:55] <DJones> gads_4: Openoffice Presentation sounds like what you need
[19:55] <sa125> Flannel - awesome, thanks
[19:55] <lucasv2> Can someone confirm the memory leaks in firefox?
[19:55] <maiquel_> Bodsda, i dont need do the download the drivers???
[19:56] <gads_4> DJones: Yes that's what I want.
[19:56] <Bodsda> gads_4, its installed by default -- Apllications-->Presentation
[19:56] <gads_4> I just wondered if there are any great ones on the net to introduce Ubuntu
[19:56] <wirechief> lucasv2: how do you know you have leaks ?
[19:56] <Bodsda> maiquel_, not from a website no ,just check the box
[19:56] <gads_4> Presentations that is.
[19:56] <maiquel_> Bodsda, ok.. thanks =D
[19:57] <babolat> lucasv2: i've read some article that says there's no mem leak with ff.. but i dunno.. that article blames flashplugin for the instability.. im looking for the article
[19:57] <Bodsda> gads_4, oh, your talking about using someone elses presentation
[19:57] <Bodsda> maiquel_, your welcome
[19:57] <lucasv2> wirechief: well, what else should it be?
[19:57] <lucasv2> wirechief: I haven't been doing anything and it's already at 1.5GB
[19:57] <gads_4> Yes, maybe something from Connonical.
[19:57] <laeg> rhythm box music player > everyday when i launch it the window pops up for a fraction of a second and then closes - it is rare i can make it play music. how can i fix it?
[19:57] <Bodsda> lucasv2, kill it before your system dies
[19:58] <gads_4> Canonical.
[19:58] <beli> moin
[19:58] <Bodsda> gads_4, we are not gonna make a presentation for you and searching for one is not tech support (which is what this channel is for) #ubuntu-offtopic please
[19:58] <yotsuba_> It seems that the settings specified in the DNS portion of my network settings are reverting to some other setting each time I restart, or make a change to the system.. any one have any ideas?
[19:58] <wirechief> lucasv2: does free work with your install ?
[19:58] <PCDJ> heres a good question how do you get wine to use a mounted drive?
[19:58] <mcphail> lucasv2: using 95% of CPU is not typical of a memory leak
[19:58] <Pici> gads_4: You may want to ask in #ubuntu-marketing as well
[19:58] <lucasv2> Bodsda: my system won't die
[19:58] <lucasv2> mcphail: ok, well 80% now
[19:59] <lucasv2> mcphail: it crashes about once per day
[19:59] <gads_4> Thank you. This is the first time I've gotten on irc. Great I will switch to those rooms. Thanks.
[19:59] <ms1989> I need help with the install of drivers in ndiwrapper for my RTL8187 card
[19:59] <lucasv2> or more
[19:59] <Bodsda> lucasv2, i'd still kill the process -- ;~)
[19:59] <ms1989> can anyone help me?
[19:59] <lucasv2> wirechief: free does work yes
[19:59] <mcphail> lucasv2: does it do this on a fresh and clean profile?
[19:59] <Bodsda> gads_4, thanks ;~)
[19:59] <PCDJ> i installed wine but it wont show my NTFS drives
[19:59] <lucasv2> mcphail: I will try it out.
[19:59] <wirechief> lucasv2: is that what you are using to see memory useage ?
[19:59] <Bodsda> PCDJ, why should it?
[20:00] <beli> Bodsda: nice question :)
[20:00] <Bodsda> ;~)
[20:00] <mcphail> lucasv2: any probs i have had like this have been due to extensions
[20:00] <lucasv2> Bodsda: yes
[20:00] <ms1989> wols : can you help me again? because it still doesn't work
[20:00] <lucasv2> wirechief: no, top
[20:00] <lucasv2> mcphail: that might be an explanation
[20:00] <lucasv2> I wonder which one though
[20:00] <beli> ms1989: whats your problem?
[20:00] <PCDJ> bodsda, because that is where my data is stored
[20:00] <Bodsda> lucasv2, only turn one on and revert to trial and error process to find out maybe ?
[20:00] <mcphail> lucasv2: nuke them all then reinstall one at a time!
[20:01] <Pici> PCDJ: Wine is for running Windows programs in Linux, it has nothing to do with disk drives. What are you trying to do?
[20:01] <wirechief> lucasv2: well im having other issues with my ubuntu install, i cannot have multiple windows open, not sure its a setting or what.
[20:01] <Bodsda> PCDJ, data is not stored on wine nor is it controlled by wine
[20:01] <Bodsda> !wine
[20:01] <ms1989> beli: I have tried to install a driver for my RTL 8187 card but
[20:01] <PCDJ> run mirc because xchat can serve files and i have people that have access or had access to my authored files
[20:01] <tds5016> why is openoffice 2.4 so effing borked in 8.04?!
[20:01] <wirechief> anyone able to open  firefox and a terminal at the same time on the desktop ?
[20:01] <ms1989> beli ; I don't know what I have to do next to get it to work
[20:02] <tds5016> it kills all of my fonts!
[20:02] <Slart> wirechief: works here
[20:02] <Cew27> hey all is there a channel for awn
[20:02] <beli> ms1989: there is no native driver for it?
[20:02] <tds5016> anyone know?
[20:02] <tRSS> i am trying to compile sebek (honeynet project) on Ubuntu 7.10, but it crashes complaining about not being able to find af_packet.c file
[20:02] <Cew27> hey all is there a channel for awn
[20:02] <ms1989> beli : I've used this howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NdiswrapperOnAMD64
[20:02] <wirechief> Slart all i get is one window , cannot open a second window
[20:02] <ssalvarani> hi all, i need some help with git
[20:02] <tRSS> i have searched for this file, but can't fine it
[20:02] <babolat> !awn
[20:02] <ms1989> beli : no not were I now of
[20:02] <tRSS> where can I get af_packet.c file?
[20:02] <ms1989> beli *know
[20:02] <Cew27> babolat: thanks that did help
[20:02] <PCDJ> bodsda, what i can do is finish learning how to make ubuntu run since it appears you need a college degree to install a script then i can dump XP and dedicat my whole drive to ubuntu
[20:03] <beli> ms1989: wait...
[20:03] <babolat> ;)
[20:03] <ms1989> beli : I did the how-to till the end but it still doesn't work
[20:03] <Bodsda> PCDJ, what are you trying to do?
[20:03] <ms1989> beli: ok
[20:03] <ssalvarani> anyone can help me with git?
[20:03] <babolat> !anyone | ssalvarani
[20:04] <Bodsda> compiz-git?
[20:04] <PCDJ> bodsda, i wanted a script for xchat like sdclone because i have files i share (my personal files) and no one can get them from my channel when i am on linux
[20:04] <ssalvarani> thanks babolat, i'll explain
[20:04] <beli> ms1989: show me your ifconfig / iwconfig output
[20:05] <babolat> 'git' .. a very creative way to name something O:-)
[20:05] <wirechief> lucasv2: i am only able to open either firefox or terminal but not both, not sure this is a bug, i am not much of a ubuntu user.
[20:05] <ssalvarani> i'm trying to get my webcam working and I need to use git, which i never used
[20:05] <Bodsda> PCDJ, what do you mean 'a script for xchat'?? a how to install?
[20:06] <beli> ms1989: did you check realteks driver download page for some native linux driver?
[20:06] <PCDJ> bodsda, i have the install part down i need a script and i can not find one that works but i figure i will just format the drive now and make it a 100% linux drive
[20:06] <tds5016> anyone able to help me get back to the open office version in 7.10?
[20:06] <ms1989> beli : http://pastebin.com/m41897ab6
[20:06] <martyn> Hi dudes. I have an Apache2 server (actually, full LAMP) but need 'original' lib-gd - not the Ubuntu version because some commands are missing (imagerotate). I have successfully compiled lib-gd from scratch and wondered if it is possible to get Apache2 to see it as a module. Cannot use a2enmod because the filetypes are not in the .load and .conf format (loads of .c files etc). Is it easy to...
[20:06] <martyn> ...encourage Apache to read these modules or does it need a full recompile of Apache? :-(
[20:06] <shane__> hello
[20:06] <Bodsda> PCDJ, if your likely to be about in an hour or so i can give you a couple of hours tuition -- im not sure why you need a script? what do you want this script to do?
[20:07] <ssalvarani> i installed git-core but i get an error when trying to execute "git clone http://..."
[20:07] <beli> ms1989: did you check realteks driver download page for some native linux driver?
[20:07] <Grejao> i'm trying to mount /dev/sda3 on /backup to my user can be owner from this partition/mount point
[20:07] <tds5016> apparently no one, huh? haha.
[20:07] <Grejao> i'm using:" /dev/sda3    /backup      ext3     uid=1000,gid=100    0      0       "   at fstab ... but when i try mount -a   i receive an error,
[20:07] <asizemore> In eed to find the function of x if f(x) = square route of x
[20:08] <asizemore> in graphmonkey
[20:08] <PCDJ> bodsda, i do karaoke mixes and ses files which i have others help me with and they download from me but it requires a auto sharing script
[20:08] <ms1989> deli : they didn't have drivers for linux but they have windowsdrivers
[20:08] <drivetrax> piTiVi - does not work on my pc
[20:08] <mcphail> Grejao: uid shouldn't be a valid option for ext3
[20:08] <PCDJ> bodsda, i messed up when i did linux and it only gave me 2 gigs for the main drive it uses
[20:08] <Pici> asizemore: Try asking in #math
[20:09] <Grejao> mcphail, how do i can put this partition to mount with my user permissions?
[20:09] <Bodsda> PCDJ, you can use     sudo gparted         to resize it but be careful
[20:09] <ssalvarani> i need help for an error with git: /usr/bin/git-clone: 374: curl: not found
[20:09] <shane__> ok i am trying to get my dl-510g wireless card installed 2 days now lol,i got it installed and device is there but it wouldnt start ndiswrapper on start so i just added ndiswrapper to gedit and restarted,now i get a error message at start saying error starting the gnome settings daemon
[20:09] <shane__> can anyone advise
[20:09] <beli> ms1989: is it 8187B or 8187L?
[20:10] <mcphail> Grejao: first, mount it without the "uid=" rubbish
[20:10] <ms1989> deli :8187b
[20:10] <PCDJ> bodsda, that is true BUT i have the other partitions full of microsoft junk i want to be rid of it
[20:10] <Slart> wirechief: sorry.. didn't see your replay... I'm not really understanding what you're doing here.. you start firefox.. then you start a terminal... and that somehow becomes one window?
[20:10] <jasper> Hey, I have a strange problem with my wireless card on SUSE 10.3. I can scan and see networks, but can't connect to them. They're open,without encryption.
[20:10] <PCDJ> bodsda, besides ubuntu runs better than ANY microsoft OS i ever used
[20:10] <beli> ms1989: Linux driver for kernel 2.6.22
[20:10] <beli> ms1989: what do you think that is? ;)
[20:10] <Grejao> mcphail, had the same error
[20:11] <WindowSmasher> Hey all.  My wireless light stays off, even when I'm using it.  Any ideas?
[20:11] <ms1989> beli ; but that's for the L
[20:11] <wirechief> Slart i open firefox and it covers the top of the screen leaving no access to any other programs
[20:11] <mcphail> Grejao: what error?
[20:11] <PCDJ> new bulb?
[20:11] <Bodsda> PCDJ, if you want to be rid of it (and all its contents) you can delete the partition in gparted and resize the ubuntu partition to use the free space (lovin the ms bashin;~))
[20:11] <beli> thats for B...its on the B download section
[20:12] <beli> ms1989: ftp://<IP_ADDRESS>/cn/wlan/rtl8185_linux_26%5B1%5D.1027.0823.2007.tar.gz
[20:12] <beli> ms1989: its 8185 driver as the name says....but i would give it a try as long as they list it in the download section
[20:15] <ms1989> beli : if have the d
[20:15] <jester7> WindowSmasher: is it using the b43 driver?
[20:15] <WindowSmasher> Neg ipw
[20:15] <wirechief> Slart this is the same with a terminal if i open a terminal i cannnot open firefox
[20:15] <Grejao> the same.
[20:15] <mcphail> Grejao: yes, but specifically which error is generated?
[20:15] <drivetrax> resize tha window
[20:15] <wirechief> SLart well not in the same fashion that i have known before with ubuntu anyways.
[20:15] <beli> ms1989: ?! go get that tarball...and read the readme inside of it
[20:15] <PCDJ> bodsda, i am about 3 days into using linux so far i am totally new i want to start this thing from total scratch so it has no memory it even knew bill gates
[20:16] <wirechief> PCDJ lol
[20:16] <Slart> wirechief: sounds strange indeed.. is it the same if you open a text editor?
[20:16] <ahver> i am installing ndiswrapper (and works) just like on ubuntu 7.10 but on 8.04 it isn't working.. i unload the b43 and ssb module but still not working when i type iwconfig i get no wireless extensions found :S
[20:16] <Slart> wirechief: can you get a screenshot and post it somewhere? preferably one before you start a terminal and one after
[20:16] <Grejao> root@kohlerts:~# mount -a  || mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda3, missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[20:16] <wirechief> Slart havent tried, i was curious why Ubuntu users were losing sound and found that pulseaudio was installed by default.
[20:16] <PCDJ> bodsda, i run sims 2 but i have another lesser pc that has XP i can play on this PC will have the REAL OS
[20:16] <Slart> wirechief: yes.. pulseaudio is installed by default
[20:16] <ms1989> deli : I have the 8187 card not 8185
[20:16] <PCDJ> should i take stun gun to HD to make it forget? lol
[20:17] <Bodsda> PCDJ, cool, ive gotta go now but will be back in an hour or so
[20:17] <lucasv2> mcphail: it crashes whenever I visit this site: http://dougmccune.com/blog
[20:17] <wirechief> Slart maybe i can but i can only access one program at a time.
[20:17] <lucasv2> mcphail: even though I removed every extension except for the ubuntu ext.
[20:17] <PCDJ> i can not believe how fast linux loads new USB devices
[20:17] <mcphail> Grejao: have you formatted the partition correctly?
[20:17] <wirechief> Slart i am use to ksnapshot, what is used in Ubuntu ?
[20:17] <Grejao> yeap, i can mount it normally by root,,, i need to mount with other owner,,, my user...
[20:17] <mcphail> lucasv2: not in X at present, so i can't verify that i'm afraid
[20:17] <wabiD> does anyone have some tips/links to keep my laptop temp down
[20:17] <WindowSmasher> nvm found it
[20:17] <PCDJ> bodsda, i will be back shortly i have to brainwash my hard drive into thinking it never met gates it may take some work wish me luck
[20:17] <Vlet> wabiD: ice
[20:17] <wabiD> it sits between 82-92c after less than an hour of use
[20:17] <ahver> i am installing ndiswrapper (and works) just like on ubuntu 7.10 but on 8.04 it isn't working.. i unload the b43 and ssb module but still not working when i type iwconfig i get no wireless extensions found :S
[20:17] <rexy__> wabiD, fahrenheit?
[20:17] <wabiD> c
[20:17] <mcphail> Grejao: you _are_ mounting it by root...
[20:17] <shane__> does anyone no how i can get into abuntu with the error message error starting the gnome settings daemon and locking up at that point
[20:17] <wirechief> Slart i wanted to confirm your memory leak but have no way to open firefox and a terminal at the same time.
[20:17] <rexy__> wabiD, seems a little hot, but some laptops are just crap with temperatures, what processor?
[20:17] <rexy__> wabiD, you can have a look and see if frequencyscaling is working
[20:17] <Vlet> shane__: can you be more specific?
[20:17] <wabiD> how do i do that
[20:17] <jasper> Hey, I have a strange problem with my wireless card on SUSE 10.3. I can scan and see networks, but can't connect to them. They're open,without encryption.
[20:17] <PCDJ> this is it boys!! i'm going in, if i am not back in 1/2 hour come get me
[20:17] <wabiD> heh its down to 73c ice, my balls are still burning
[20:17] <rexy__> wabiD, type cat /proc/cpuinfo and look at what it says behind cpu Mhz
[20:17] <PCDJ> bodsda, see you then :)  ty
[20:17] <ay^> Has the bug in ubuntu been fixed, that casued xorg to use all cpu when browsing with firefox?
[20:17] <rexy__> try it when the machine isnt doing anything
[20:17] <rexy__> and see if that's lower then what your processor should be
[20:17] <_volk_> A 4e tak tiho?
[20:17] <Bodsda> PCDJ, bye ;~)
[20:17] <cjohnson> I'm trying to use sfdisk to partition a flash memory card (for my pda, according to a tutorial)
[20:17] <mcphail> Grejao: the user who mounts the partition does not influence who can access the partition...
[20:18] <PCDJ> PCDJ grabs hammer and shuts down PC
[20:18] <Unknown512> Hello, i have no sound. It detects my sound card (onboard) but i do not hear a thing. I am using Ubuntu 8.04.
[20:18] <cyntek> Hello everyone.
[20:18] <cjohnson> The example says to do this: # sfdisk /dev/mmcblk0
[20:18] <cjohnson> /dev/mmcblk0p1:1,16384,6
[20:18] <cjohnson> /dev/mmcblk0p2:16385,,83
[20:18] <shane__> i added ndiswrapper to gedit and restarted now im getting an error that error starting the gnome settings daemon
[20:18] <boss_> anybody know somebody converter from mpg to 3gp-mobile?
[20:18] <shane__> thats where it locks at
[20:18] <cjohnson> However, that's for 512MB and 7GB partitions on an 8GB card. Mine is only 2GB, so I want to split it 1GB and 1GB. What values should I be changing to do that?
[20:18] <tushyd> Unknown512: in terminal run alsamixer and make sure all the sliders are up
[20:18] <ms1989> beli : but the file you just send are files for 8185 card and I have an other card
[20:18] <wabiD> cpu MHz		: 1000.000
[20:19] <ms1989> beli the 8187b
[20:19] <wabiD> Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2500  @ 2.00GHz
[20:19] <Unknown512> tushyd: ok how do i move the sliders?
[20:19] <mcphail> boss_: mencoder might be able to do that, but it isn't the easiest software to use
[20:19] <tushyd> Unknown512: use the arrow keys on the keyboard
[20:20] <beli> ms1989: it IS in the download section for your card...so why dont try it out?!
[20:20] <maslowbeer> i have an issue that clearly could have been better addressed during an upgrade to heron from gutsy on my laptop. i have broadcomm wifi and thus require a restricted driver. it was working in gutsy but only _after_ the upgrade was complete it asked me if I wanted to enable the restricted driver. of course now I can use my wifi so I've got a serious catch 22. it should have downloaded the restricted driver for heron while it had the cha
[20:20] <Unknown512> tushyd: ok everythings up (it always was) and i still cant hear anything.
[20:20] <maslowbeer> s/can/cannot/
[20:21] <sudobash> did you try the wifi before restricted driver after upgrade?
[20:21] <tushyd> Unknown512: is there an optical out in your alsamixer? When I had that problem I unchecked the optical out and my sound came on
[20:21] <sudobash> maybe try a clean install... of 8.04
[20:21] <parvix> somebody please help with my ubuntu...
[20:21] <ms1989> beli : you're looking herehttp://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true?
[20:21] <ironfoot> HI is there anyway I can get some help with cups I keep getting=>recoverable: Network host busy?
[20:21] <sudobash> whats up parvix?
[20:21] <Shadu> How can i check the status of Hellanzb ?
[20:22] <ScreaminIk1> uhm. my sound stopped working in flash.
[20:22] <sudobash> ironfoot what is your printer hooked up to?
[20:22] <Unknown512> tushyd: there is no optical out function in alsamixer
[20:22] <gronne> I reinstalled ubuntu, because I got nuts over the network issues... but now I have an issue with sharing. It says "'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: share name backup is already a valid system user name"
[20:22] <ScreaminIk1> system sounds are fine. vlc. miro, totem. but flash is broken.
[20:22] <beli> ms1989: why dont you just give it a try?
[20:22] <drivetrax> AsusTek embeds Linux on p5 mobo
[20:22] <ironfoot> sudobash: A print server netgear ps110
[20:22] <sudobash> ScreaminIk1 try reinstall of flash and alsa/whatever else might have been installed
[20:23] <laeg> how do i open pdfs in firefox (install missing plugins does nothing) and ubuntu in general? i've aready searched synaptic for adobe acrobat
[20:23] <wirechief> Slart forget the desktop issue i was having....i checked for memory leak and it is not happening when i use free
[20:23] <sudobash> so you have a strange printer setup...
[20:23] <stathis78> hello can anyone help with a webcam issue plz?
[20:23] <Unknown512> tushyd: is there any way i can take a screenshot and send it to you?
[20:23] <ScreaminIk1> ... ok.
[20:24] <sudobash> maybe try getting cups working with the printer direct connected first?
[20:24] <Slart> wirechief: got a phonecall.. brb
[20:24] <sudobash> and then move to network?
[20:24] <ay^> Has the bug in ubuntu been fixed, that casued xorg to use all cpu when browsing with firefox?
[20:24] <ironfoot> It was working but I caME IN TO WORK AND IT HAD THIS EXACTR ERROR MESSAGE?
[20:24] <wirechief_> sSlart ok i will be on this Desktop...
[20:24] <sudobash> did you restart pc?
[20:24] <wirechief_> Slart ok i will be on this Desktop
[20:24] <ironfoot> yes I did.
[20:24] <Larrxi> laeg: document viewer should read pdf
[20:25] <sudobash> restart print server
[20:25] <sudobash> and printer
[20:25] <sudobash> unplug both for 10 min
[20:25] <ironfoot> Yes Sir!