[12:35] <cool^tom> Ok got the problem.  This is a real pain.  I have set up some variables in /etc/bash.bashrc  which does not get set when launchers are called.
[12:35] <crackhead25> scropian: there shouldn't be any difference there. what are you trying to direct me to do? is this the only advice?
[12:35] <cool^tom> is there a better place to set the variables?
[12:35] <sebe> jojojojojojojojojojoj
[12:35] <bod_> crackhead25, suit urself,.,. obviously ur a coc prob
[12:36] <scorpian> the other obex installations
[12:36] <audiosensecd_> !compiz
[12:36] <ubot3> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[12:36] <elbermungsterses> the error is that a ton of package lists fail to download and i recieve a error message like this: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2: Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[12:36] <scorpian> crackhead:uncheck all obex in your synaptics
[12:37] <daniel_lv> please help, could any body tell me how to change my passwd, the change passwd cmd is?...
[12:37] <scorpian> crackhead:then type that cmd
[12:37] <quakky> Dr_Willis: hey , so i again reconfigured the x server, but now i can only login successfully on ubuntu using the failsafe GENOME session
[12:37] <Mangan> HELLO, has anyone a snippet for formatting usb disks via bash script under kubuntu?
[12:37] <elbermungsterses> and this: W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2
[12:37] <backblue> hi, how do i change the default umask for one specific user?
[12:37] <elbermungsterses> any help?
[12:37] <crackhead25> scorpian: i know how to do it, but why should i do it? why will this do anything different with no special options or switches than the synaptic, and how is this going to help my problem?
[12:37] <snewp> daniel_lv, you've just typed it :)
[12:38] <zod_> is it allowed to ask about anything in this chat room?
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  i would say go to failsafe gnome, disable the  desktop effects.
[12:38] <bod_> thankyou im off
[12:38] <elbermungsterses> any help, bazhang?
[12:39] <quakky> Dr_Willis: i am on failsafe gnome..i can only logon using that..and my desktop effects are disabled
[12:39] <bazhang> elbermungsterses: sounds like the server timed out have you tried again?
[12:39] <elbermungsterses> i have tried at least 5 times, bazhang.
[12:39] <scorpian> crackhead: i had the similar issue the installation of obex directly from the one given in the gui synaptic din work maybe the packacge is screwed.so googled n found it in some site
[12:40] <scorpian> package
[12:40] <zod_> i can ask about whatever i want about Linux here?
[12:40] <zod_> rules?
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> quakky,    you could try making a new user, see if you can login to gnome with them normally.     if they can. then its some setting the first user has setup thats causing the issues
[12:40] <xjohnthomasx> scorpian: that doesn't make sense. the packages are md5 checksummed. they are all the same.
[12:41] <prashant> when i want to update my system through update manager i get error W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com gutsy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY<PHONE_NUMBER>7EE263
[12:41] <xjohnthomasx> scorpian: do you have any other suggestions for fixes or possible solutions?
[12:41] <elbermungsterses> and it also says "error: sub-process bzip2 returned with error code (2)", bazhang.
[12:41] <quakky> Dr_Willis: well ive only had this ubuntu for a few hours..few hours just trying to setup my graphics card..thats the only thing ive been trying to do really..
[12:41] <prashant> when i want to update my system through update manager i get error W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com gutsy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY<PHONE_NUMBER>7EE263
[12:42] <CoSinecure> Hey all... I'm running xubuntu on a ibook G3 (PPC) - I can't access any of the tty's, all I get is a black screen, no cursor or nothing.. Any suggestions of what might be going on?
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  well some how you got totally off the track with the xgl stuff. What is your exact video card anyway?
[12:42] <bullgard4> What does 'HID' mean in http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/mochel/patches/acpi/driver-model/0086-acpi-button-Add-fixed-feature-button-HIDs.txt?
[12:42] <dns53> prashant you have added a third party repository, to verify that you trust them all packages need to be signed. it is your opinion if you trust them or not
[12:42] <quakky> Dr_Willis: 8600gt
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  all i normally do is run the restricted-driver tool and let it install/modify the stuff.
[12:43] <scorpian> xjohnthomaskx: well it worked for me thrice..on diff laptops...i dunno ...itz jus a protocol...i tot they were diff y else it wud work
[12:43] <bazhang> elbermungsterses: anything odd in your sources list? seems that might be causing your problems
[12:43] <scorpian> on my pc
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  right now you may  have the effects enabled, on user #1. and you need to disable them.
[12:43] <zod_> is it allowed to ask about hacking here?
[12:43] <prashant> dns53, what i hav to do
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> zod_,  hacking is such a over-blown term.
[12:43] <bazhang> zod_: nay
[12:45] <quakky> Dr_Willis: I go to system>Preferences>appearance , and wen i go there the effects are disabled..I cant even enable them anyways ...tahts what i was trying to fix in the first place...and im the only user that ive set up
[12:45] <Terrasque> zod_: I prefer a steel pickaxe with long handles, it's a fine mix of price and durability, and you can use a lot of force when you're hacking.
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  try making a 2nd user. see if it works for them.
[12:46] <elbermungsterses> no, bazhang, even the security respitory is failing. i think there is a problem with bzip2.
[12:46] <quakky> Dr_Willis: ok
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  i dont use the effects at all. so i cant help much   there.
[12:46] <bazhang> elbermungsterses: would you mind pastebining your sources list?
[12:46] <dns53> prashant: it is saying they have not signed the packages so it opens up the possibility that someone could potentially mess with the package as it is being downloaded. it is a warning that you are ignoring the normal security that exists. you cannot fix it as it is the source you are getting it from has not done the signing
[12:46] <elbermungsterses> okay, bazhang.
[12:47] <quakky> Dr_Willis: well as of this point, i dont want to use em..i just wanna be able to log on without me having to select fail safe mode...im going to try to make a 2nd user..brb
[12:47] <jumeaux> qui parle francais
[12:48] <prashant> dns53, thanxxxxxx
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  make a user as a TEST to see if it works for the new user.. if it works for a new user. then its your original USERS settings that are the issue.. if it fails for both, you have some other system configuration iussue
[12:48] <jumeaux> Qui parle francais ?
[12:48] <dgjones> !fr | jumeaux
[12:48] <ubot3> jumeaux: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:48] <quakky> Dr_Willis: k brb
[12:48] <ubstud> is there a network traffic sniffer for ubuntu?
[12:49] <audiosensecd_> hi guys just asking is there any way around to install my eggdrop in ubuntu
[12:49] <Pici> ubstud: wireshark perhaps
[12:49] <Pici> audiosensecd_: eggdrop is in the package repositories iirc
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> !find eggdrop
[12:49] <ubot3> Found: eggdrop, eggdrop-data
[12:49] <scorpian> hey,,i have this voip device(phone ) in my lan..i got the config details like sip reg,username passwd,,is there a s/w to emulate the device ..like if i config the same settings in my pc and use that no.
[12:49] <audiosensecd_> Pici: how ?
[12:49] <Pici> audiosensecd_: sudo apt-get install eggdrop
[12:50] <bazhang> elbermungsterses: you know how to do that? the easiest way is to install pastebinit then cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit and then it gives a url you can paste here
[12:50] <audiosensecd_> Pici: thx
[12:50] <elbermungsterses> bazhang, i think it is my ISP's problem. you see, i am currently living in china and signed up for a crappy internet service that censors and displays ads all the time. the servers go down often too.
[12:50] <elbermungsterses> but, i'll pastebin anyways.
[12:50] <audiosensecd_> Pici: must be root or not?
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> audiosensecd_,  sudo -> is doin things as root. :)
[12:51] <Pici> audiosensecd_: Well sudo will give you access to install that, but you'd need to be in the admin group
[12:51] <unicum> anyone here using ubuntu on a macbook (native not vm)? i'm interested in the battery durability... is ubuntu power management doing a good job?
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> audiosensecd_,  if you are not the admin., you may need to install the bot from source, for just your user.
[12:52] <CoSinecure> unicum, I'm on an iBook :)
[12:52] <unicum> CoSinecure will do too, how is it compared to the battery-run time of os x??
[12:53] <Kelmh12> k
[12:53] <quakky> Dr_Willis: alright i created another user, and logging into ubuntu doesnt work for that user either
[12:53] <callmetim_> anybody know much about http?
[12:53] <elbermungsterses> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59370/
[12:53] <Pici> !anyone | callmetim_
[12:53] <ubot3> callmetim_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  weirdness..   the normal gnome desktop just exits back to the  login screen? but failsafe gnome seems to work ?
[12:53] <CoSinecure> unicum, I don't think its as good as OSX, but so far (about a week) it's been 3-4 hrs (apple specs report it as 5, but this is a fairly old laptop )
[12:54] <lovehen> hey can someone help me with vsftpd?
[12:54] <zod_> so any one know how to config ure gnome desktop ?
[12:54] <unicum> well, that's quite cool. thx for the info @ CoSinecure
[12:54] <LOGAN> when is the new version coming?
[12:54] <lovehen> i got this problem while installing vsftpd
[12:54] <majikins> hi wonder if someone has a suggestion on vmware images
[12:54] <lovehen> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporari ly unavailable)
[12:54] <lovehen> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[12:54] <quakky> Dr_Willis: yeap...when i try to login to normal genome it stays blank for about 10 seconds then gets black screen and throws me back to login screen
[12:54] <majikins> I have a locked down pc running xubuntu
[12:54] <CoSinecure> unicum, np.
[12:55] <Pici> LOGAN: April
[12:55] <zod_> any one got some good games for linux they want to send to me? or got the apt-get command for them?
[12:55] <quakky> Dr_Willis: failsafe works, as u can see...if it hadnt id be back on windows xp erasing the ubuntu partition...
[12:55] <quakky> Dr_Willis: :)
[12:55] <majikins> it has eductional stuff on it and I would like to run a vmware image that allows the user to tinker with linux
[12:55] <dns53> elbermungsterses you could remove the edgy-security, the rest looks ok
[12:56] <majikins> preferably a lamp server with php, perl and all goodies
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  i dont even know whats different from failsafe gnome and normal gnome...
[12:56] <zod_> no one got the apt-get command for any good linux games?
[12:56] <bazhang> elbermungsterses: you might try commenting out lines 33 and 34 and see if that helps--there are a ton of backports and proposed that might be difficult to reach from China--not sure if that would be afffecting your download or not
[12:56] <majikins> has anyone done this?
[12:56] <CoSinecure> zod_, apt-get install same-gnome :D
[12:56] <CoSinecure> its simple, but for some reason I love it
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> zod_,  theres 1000' of games.. depends on what you like.. go get 'rocksndiamonds' it will keep you busy for weeks.
[12:56] <bazhang> zod_: sudo apt-get install sauerbraten
[12:57] <LOGAN> games? realy??
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> zod_,  fire up the package manager and search for games. :)
[12:57] <dgjones> !games | zod_
[12:57] <ubot3> zod_: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> !info slune
[12:57] <ubot3> slune: 3D racing and car-crashing game. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.13-1 (gutsy), package size 10442 kB, installed size 25832 kB
[12:57] <Sadistt0> ubuntu 8.04 alpha6 usable ?
[12:57] <reikalusikka> how can I change my splash screen?
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> Sadistt0,  im using it now. :)  if you have to ask .. dont use it. :)
[12:57] <ThRixXx> !info hardy
[12:57] <ubot3> Package hardy does not exist in gutsy
[12:57] <Pici> !hardy
[12:57] <ubot3> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[12:57] <quakky> Dr_Willis: not sure either..i really dont know why installing video drivers seems like a big problem and very sensitive too..
[12:57] <ThRixXx> !hardy
[12:57] <wikzo> I got some problems about installing Gnome Do in Ubuntu 7.10. I have added these to links (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnomeDo/Installation) and then I write this in the terminal: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59371/
[12:58] <reikalusikka> hard heroin lol
[12:58] <audiosensecd_> Pici: is there anyway how to install mp3 player in ubuntu like winamp?
[12:58] <ThRixXx> Can I install hardy alpa 6 ?or wont it be a good idea
[12:58] <Sadistt0> audiosensecd_ apt-get install audacious
[12:58] <Pici> audiosensecd_: I hear beep-media-player is a good winamp alternative
[12:58] <elbermungsterses> bazhang, are you located in taiwan?
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  it takes me all of 20 sec to get a new systems going with the nvidia drivers.. there have been some oddities with some nvidia cards lately. I think nvidia has been changing some things.
[12:58] <Pici> ThRixXx: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[12:58] <majikins> anyone on vmware?
[12:58] <bazhang> elbermungsterses: aye
[12:58] <audiosensecd_> Pici: what d link
[12:59] <elbermungsterses> if you are, have you heard of china telecom?
[12:59] <dns53> hardy is ALPHA, it works fine but prone to break
[12:59] <bazhang> majikins: yes I am
[12:59] <reikalusikka> How do I change my splash screen?
[12:59] <ThRixXx> Tx :D
[12:59] <Pici> audiosensecd_: Install it from the repositories
[12:59] <Pici> !usplash | reikalusikka
[12:59] <ubot3> reikalusikka: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  the senestive part is due to nvidia not releaseing the drivers  source. we have to reply on them to compile stuff for us.  Blame nvidia i guess.
[12:59] <scorpian> audiosensecd_:Rythmbox music player is the best
[12:59] <Pici> !best | scorpian
[12:59] <ubot3> scorpian: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[12:59] <audiosensecd_> Pici:  ahh kies
[12:59] <reikalusikka> Pici: thanks
[12:59] <audiosensecd_> scorpian:  ned link
[12:59] <majikins> bazhang: do you know where I can get images for educational use?
[12:59] <scorpian> ubot3:ow wat a fst typin
[12:59] <ubot3> scorpian: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[13:00] <Pici> audiosensecd_: Everything is in the repositories
[13:00] <Pici> !software | audiosensecd_
[13:00] <ubot3> audiosensecd_: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[13:00] <zod_> any command sodu apt-get command for the rocksndiamonds please
[13:00] <scorpian> ha ha ha
[13:00] <elbermungsterses> well, i use their "one home" service and they keep on censoring and servers aren't reliable.
[13:00] <audiosensecd_> !package
[13:00] <ubot3> Factoid package not found
[13:00] <audiosensecd_> !packages
[13:00] <ubot3> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[13:00] <elbermungsterses> so, i think this is a temporary server problem.
[13:00] <Pici> zod_: sudo apt-get install rocksndiamonds
[13:00] <scorpian> audiosensecd_:search in synaptic
[13:00] <majikins> bazhang: I want to run via vmwareplayer so that users can play with a system
[13:00] <scorpian> ubot3:sux
[13:00] <ubot3> sux: wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.2 (gutsy), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> zod_,  you havent figured out the  apt-get install command yet? :) after all the examples.
[13:01] <bazhang> majikins: you mean for teaching? not sure about that let me check--though we should probably meet in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:01] <scorpian> ubot3: hello
[13:01] <ubot3> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> zod_,  sudo apt-get install PACKAGENAME
[13:01] <elbermungsterses> thanks anyways, bazhang.
[13:01] <scorpian> ubot3:do you know where osama is
[13:01] <ubot3> scorpian: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[13:01] <quakky> Dr_Willis: last time i tried ubuntu 7.04 when i had ATi videocard..also had problems which in turn put me off in terms of using ubuntu..now this again.. only reason im pushing myself onto ubuntu is cuz im never upgrading to vista...so this is the better alternative..
[13:01] <jim_p> weirdest problem ever!!! I opened up the side of my pc case, rebooted and now gnome-session or something fails to start :|
[13:01] <majikins> ok
[13:01] <scorpian> ubot3:so ur a fool
[13:01] <ubot3> Factoid so ur a fool not found
[13:01] <Pici> !botabuse | scorpian
[13:02] <bazhang> elbermungsterses: from the forums it seems that it is not a bzip2 prob but a server side issue or perhaps isp in your case
[13:02] <ubot3> scorpian: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotwo Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[13:02] <elbermungsterses> oh, okay. thanks.
[13:02]  * scorpian he he he
[13:02] <elbermungsterses> :)
[13:02] <elbermungsterses> goodbye.
[13:03] <zod_> sorry about my apt-get skills they will get better i hope soon
[13:03] <CoSinecure> holy crap...my mouse just stopped working.. :(
[13:03] <zod_> mouse stopped working?
[13:03] <audiosensecd_> Pici: where do i find the matrix themes?
[13:03] <CoSinecure> Yeah... trackpad on the iBook
[13:03] <Pici> audiosensecd_: I dont know, try http://www.gnome-look.org
[13:03] <CoSinecure> I can see you mouseie...why won't you move??
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  ATI is  worse :) but  with ati - you would have to be messing with the xgl drivers stuff..
[13:04] <zod_> any more good config tip for setting up ubuntu?
[13:04] <Pici> !tutorial
[13:04] <ubot3> Factoid tutorial not found
[13:04] <Xamusk> is there any equivalent to MS Groove that also runs in Ubuntu? It must also run in Windows, and sync at least calendar, files, and make chat available
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  Hmm.. I dont even have a gnome-failsafe session...
[13:05] <quakky> Dr_Willis: didnt u say u were using ubuntu 8 alpha 6?
[13:05] <quakky> Dr_Willis: could be the reason
[13:05] <zod_> when is the new ubuntu realised?
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  yep - might be.. but i got a laptop with the older.. i dont recall it there.
[13:05] <carpediem> Xamusk: no, none I've ever heard of.
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  I did recall that when i installed openbox, it setup a 'openbox-gnome' session :)
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  the more i use gnome.. the more i like kde to be honest with ya.
[13:06] <zod_> the kde is harder then gnome?
[13:06] <Pici> zod_: They're just different.
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> zod_,  nope.
[13:06] <irelinquish> zod just dive in
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> thats the joy of linux. you could have 100 window managers intgalled if you wanted.
[13:06] <zod_> ah i like the gnome best, think kde ist that great, yet
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> and i got about 10 installed right now.
[13:07] <quakky> Dr_Willis: I have no freaking clue as to what gnome and kde are..or wat the difference is..or anything about them...when i read gnome i think of the WoW gnomes lol
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> zod_,  how can you make such a statement? have you even used kde much?
[13:07] <irelinquish> kde is amazing, gnome is amazing. just preferance
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> gnome can be very frustrating :)
[13:07] <zod_> well i did try kde once, but that was in year 2001
[13:07] <irelinquish> i agree but so can kde
[13:07] <irelinquish> but normally its all my fault
[13:08] <Jack_Sparrow> I used KDE for years, but now prefer Gnome
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  gnome and kde are the 2 main desktops.. if you want to try out the kde desktop do a 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' then logiut and select kde from the session menu on the LOGIN screen.
[13:08] <zod_> kde looks like win, gnome is more likeble for me
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  you could 'sudo apt-get install openbox' also - and have a openbox, and openbox-gnome desktop also.
[13:08] <irelinquish> ha, dont say it looks like win
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> everything looks like everything else, like win. :) ya got icons and windows.. and a button for programs.. big deal. :)
[13:09] <quakky> Dr_Willis: btw speaking of installing drivers...u ever heard of G15 keyboards working properly with ubuntu?
[13:09] <irelinquish> it looks nothing like vista
[13:09] <irelinquish> or xp
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  i got my g15 working with lcd clock, and function keys. :)  wait for the next release of ubuntu/kubuntu - they got the proper packages   allready made up.
[13:09] <zod_> well kde is good so is Gnome, but i prefer gnome over kde, that is ust me
[13:10] <irelinquish> kde has better default applications
[13:10] <jepes_> er irc.icq.net
[13:10] <zod_> ah
[13:10] <co_perhatian> rwe
[13:10] <co_perhatian> rgrtut
[13:11] <co_perhatian> pop
[13:11] <co_perhatian> op
[13:11] <co_perhatian> okp
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> Speaking of gnome.. I set up a video  where it defaults to gmplayer in gnome. ( .ogm i think) but  when i open the video. it fails because gmplayer is getting the filename/path as 'file://path/to/file/but%2spaces%2get%converted/video.ogm'
[13:11] <zod_> u can play dvd in VLC player?
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> ive got NO idea how to even make it tellit a proper path/name. :)
[13:11] <Jeriath> anyone know how to fix the firestarter gui.....it crashes randombly
[13:12] <Jeriath> randomly*
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> i then end up just drag/dropping the file into the then running  gmplayer program/window. :(
[13:12] <Jeriath> at least once or twice a day
[13:12] <Jeriath> and i have to have it running....it wont forward port properly if its not
[13:14] <enno___>  I need an Thunderbird extension, which creates an toolbar button, that moves an Email to
[13:14] <enno___>               an specific folder. Any advice?
[13:14] <kate_mins> prince_jammys:  can you write me again the line of "sed" ?
[13:14] <prince_jammys> kate_mins: sed -n '700,800 p' source_file >newfile
[13:14] <kate_mins> prince_jammys: thanks
[13:15] <prince_jammys> kate_mins: that should do it
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> prince_jammys,  has strong sed-fu-skills
[13:15] <aurehman_> hi...what is the command to convert mov to flv in mencoder...anyone guide me
[13:15] <bazhang> zod_: sure
[13:15] <prince_jammys> Dr_Willis: i wish :)
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> i got that 'using sed and awk' book :) somewhere.
[13:15] <prince_jammys> Dr_Willis: what i want is awk-fu
[13:16] <savvas> !xen
[13:16] <ubot3> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen
[13:16] <scorpian> !voip tools
[13:16] <ubot3> Factoid voip tools not found
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> prince_jammys,  i hear the ladies love men that are good with awk!
[13:16] <prince_jammys> Dr_Willis: totally
[13:17] <v3ctor> hmm..that is AWKward
[13:17] <bazhang> scorpian: you can /msg the bot for that please
[13:17] <prince_jammys> Dr_Willis: woman love a man who can edit text files non-interactively
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249693  seems to mention a problem similer to yours... im out for the day. :) bed time for me.
[13:17] <quakky> Dr_Willis: thank you
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> prince_jammys,  my comal skills impressed my wife.
[13:17] <quakky> Dr_Willis: have a good night
[13:17] <prince_jammys> :)
[13:18] <prince_jammys> Dr_Willis: s/woman/women/
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  or that message may not help. :) i just read it.. it basicially says 'i dontknow why it broke' heh. but there may be other forum posts on it.
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  aha! uninstall that package you intalled earlier. the xgl one
[13:19] <quakky> Dr_Willis: but dont i ..hmm ya ill try that
[13:19] <nullcode> how to create a blue window in terminal ?
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> as far as i know you do not need xgl with the nvidia cardsd at all.
[13:19] <nullcode> there's another command which is equivalent to the command dialog
[13:19] <zod_> well got to go all, tnx for an interesting day all
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> nullcode,  xterm -bg darkblue -fg hotpink
[13:19] <nullcode> no
[13:19] <nullcode> i didn't mean that
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> nullcode,   :)
[13:20] <nullcode> it's a command just ilke dialog
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> dont like hotpink? heh
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> I though the command was dialog.
[13:20] <quakky> Dr_Willis: ya i think so too..but that damn installer was complaining about something.....let me try uninstalling
[13:20] <nullcode> yes
[13:20] <nullcode> but there's an equivalent to dialog
[13:20] <nullcode> what is it ?
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> xdialog ?
[13:20] <nullcode> no
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> I recall seeing some alternatives to dialog over the years.
[13:20] <nullcode> the word dialog isn't in the command :(
[13:21] <nullcode> i just discovered it but i can't find in my history
[13:21] <UB`> nullcode zenity?
[13:21] <xjohnthomasx> hi, can anyone help me get my bluetooth working?? i can see my motorola phone, but i can't get it to connect. i've tried all the directions on the bluetoothsetup page and other help pages i've found..
[13:21] <nullcode> no
[13:21] <xjohnthomasx> does anyone use bluetooth with success?
[13:21] <nullcode> not zenity
[13:21] <scorpian> xjhonthomasx:obex error eh?
[13:21] <nullcode> it has the -yesno optino
[13:21] <nullcode> =(
[13:21] <nullcode> i really wanna remember it
[13:22] <xjohnthomasx> scorpian: the reinstall of obex didnt do anything
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> wow the dialog command has some complex options. :)
[13:22] <D3f0> Hi guys
[13:22] <UB`> zenity has a lot of options yes/no and much more
[13:22] <UB`> zenity --question
[13:22] <scorpian> xjhonthomas:installed from gui synaptic eh
[13:23] <xjohnthomasx> scorpian: no, i uninstalled it from synaptic and reinstalled it from the apt-get, like you said
[13:23] <D3f0> is there any program to automatically install packages on various machines, without fisical or ssh access?
[13:23] <nullcode> any idea ?
[13:23] <evandro-val> alguem pode me ajudar a blokear orkut no ubuntu??
[13:24] <jrib> !pt | evandro-val
[13:24] <ubot3> evandro-val: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[13:24] <quakky> Dr_Willis: k i uninstalled..lets see if it works :D
[13:24] <quakky> Dr_Willis: brb
[13:24] <jrib> D3f0: updates you mean?
[13:24] <evandro-val> obrigado
[13:24] <scorpian> xjhonthomasx:try googlin for it online .deb pckg for the latest what laptop
[13:24] <scorpian> ?
[13:25] <D3f0> jrib, packages in general
[13:25] <quakky> god dang it worked haha
[13:25] <scorpian> xjhonthomasx:installed bluez na
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> quakky,   There ya go..  logical thinking worked. :)
[13:26] <quakky> Dr_Willis: install, uninstall...seems simple now
[13:26] <quakky> Dr_Willis  :D
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  xgl does somthing special i think. I never used it. so i dont know what. but its normally needed for ati cards.
[13:26] <D3f0> jrib, something like "hey, take this packages list and install it", but in a unattended way, sice it must be done over 20 machines
[13:27] <D3f0> jrib, sshing each one is tedious
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> D3f0,  without ssh?  there are commands that can do ssh commands on a batch of machines.
[13:27] <quakky> Dr_Willis: im drooling though for some eye catching desktop environment..u know to justify my work on ubuntu so far lol
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> but without ssh.. well. that makes it harder.
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  eyecandy causes ocular cavaties.
[13:28] <D3f0> Dr_Willis, well, ssh is OK, but manual ssh is not
[13:28] <quakky> Dr_Willis: haha
[13:28] <jrib> D3f0: the issue I see is if a package requires you to answer questions during install
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  it seems the xgl package goofs up a link for the nvidia drivers. If you reinstalled the nvidia drivers that should of also fixed the problem.
[13:29] <D3f0> well, but there are --yes options
[13:29] <quakky> Dr_Willis all these youtube videos of spinning cubes and transparent stuff...mmmmmm...one day i shall have that
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  the cube is one of the most useless things ive ever seen. :)
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> quakky,   try to enable the effects now?
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> that card should be able to do them. but it may be some quirk with the nvidia drivers and that card.
[13:31] <quakky> Dr_Willis: well..if the wife walks in when ur doing 'special' work, that cube can save u a few hours of argument lol... jk
[13:31] <jrib> D3f0: I suppose if the machines are identical and you verify it does not cause problems on one that would work
[13:32] <quakky> Dr_Willis: im still not able to enable the visuals
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  thats why i now get all my wallpaper from the National Geographic web site or the nasa picture of the day site
[13:33] <D3f0> jrib, machines are very similar, they need gcc, manpages, and other various dev tools
[13:33] <quakky> Dr_Willis: i wanna point out that in my restricted drivers window, I c 2 components...1 called Lucent/agere linmodem controller driver (not in use) and the NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (latest cards) in use
[13:33] <D3f0> they fetch packages through an apt-proxy
[13:34] <quakky> Dr_Willis: shouldnt there be only 1?
[13:34] <ShiroUsagi> Hi, can someone here help me getting identd server to work on Gutsy? I still get ~ in some networks, tried pidentd, and oidentd, the latter doesn`t even start (Error spawning core).
[13:35] <jrib> D3f0: so then the other detail is if you do write a script that SSHs into one of the machines how do you make it so that you do not need to enter your password (otherwise you'll need to enter your password twenty times)
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  like it says.. One is for your modem. :)
[13:36] <D3f0> jrib, I could do some python code, and would use RSA keys instead of passwords, but I have this feeling that there's something out there for this purely administrative task
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> quakky,   amazing helpfull eh? if ya dont use the modem dont worry about it.
[13:37] <quakky> Dr_Willis: well..i forgot to mention..this wasnt there before the thing hit the fan
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  its possible thjeres some DRI/GLX issue with the driver/card versions.    The next release of ubuntu is due out in a month. with updated drivers. That may fix some things.
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> quakky,  also if you havent done a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade'  yet. it may update some packages that fixes the issue.
[13:38] <xphisher> hey guys.. i need help.. my scroll wheel doesn't work when it comes to switching workspaces.. any thoughts??
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> well night all
[13:39] <jrib> D3f0: yeah, there probably is.  I don't know offhand though
[13:39] <nullcode> someone :@
[13:39] <quakky> Dr_Willis: good night
[13:40] <legend2440> !mouse | xphisher
[13:40] <ubot3> xphisher: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[13:41] <xphisher> thanks.
[13:41] <legend2440> xphisher:  yw
[13:41] <MindSpark> hi, does anyone know how I can launch another instance of X on a different virtual console ?
[13:41] <jrib> D3f0: here's a blog post talking about it (I haven't read through it): http://blog.hjksolutions.com/articles/2007/07/27/unattended-package-installation-with-debian-and-ubuntu
[13:43] <jrib> MindSpark: startx -- :1 &
[13:43] <jrib> MindSpark: or use gdmflexiserver
[13:44] <D3f0> jrib, thanks
[13:44] <MindSpark> jrib, startx -- :1 works fine, but does it work without -- ?
[13:45] <vbabiy-laptop> hey guys does any one know how to configure screen so it doesn't give you the visual bell in the terminal?
[13:45] <vbabiy-laptop> it is really annoying
[13:45] <jrib> MindSpark: I never tried
[13:45] <BuFF> use terminal preferences
[13:46] <jrib> vbabiy-laptop: vbell off
[13:46] <MindSpark> jrib, gdmflexiserver just started the screen saver
[13:46] <vbabiy-laptop> jrib: where would i enter this
[13:46] <jrib> vbabiy-laptop: ~/.screencr
[13:46] <vbabiy-laptop> jrib: thanks
[13:46] <jrib> vbabiy-laptop: ~/.screencr if you want it to work
[13:46] <jrib> vbabiy-laptop: ~/.screenrc if you want it to work
[13:46]  * jrib fails
[13:46] <vbabiy-laptop> jrib: lol
[13:47]  * genii hands jrib a large coffee
[13:47] <user123456> can someone tell me how to set a user account to autologin using ubuntu server, i.e. no X
[13:47] <Lartza_> Why can't I boot the live cd?
[13:47] <vbabiy-laptop> jrib: also you know how to fix it so when you close it vi it refresh the terminal window so it doesn't have vi text above
[13:47] <Lartza_> I installed feisty from live cd on this same computer and I remember I had some problems then too.
[13:48] <jrib> MindSpark: gdmflexiserver -l next time, otherwise it will lock your current screen.   But now that you did that, you should still be able to hit ctrl-alt-f9 and get to a new login window  (you need to read manpages when someone just gives you a command :))
[13:48] <Lartza_> And is there any bootfloppy? That might work.
[13:48] <vintage_12> k
[13:49] <Lartza_> Why can't I boot the live cd?
[13:49] <IndyGunFreak> Lartza_: well, you're probably doing something wrong
[13:50] <vbabiy-laptop> jrib: any Idea about that?
[13:50] <dgjones> Lartza_, what error messages/problems do you have
[13:50] <jrib> vbabiy-laptop: no, I don't know how to do that
[13:50] <IndyGunFreak> dgjones: by not boot, i was assuming he didnj't even get a menu.
[13:50] <vbabiy-laptop> jrib: thanks for you help
[13:50] <Lartza_> IndyGunFreak: I put the cd in. It searches floppy... Not Found. Then it searches cd pretty long... Not Found. Then it boots the IDE-0
[13:50] <Lartza_> Same thing with both drives.
[13:51] <IndyGunFreak> Lartza_: sounds like your burning th edisk wrong
[13:51] <IndyGunFreak> Lartza_: can you set your BIOS to search the CD drive first?
[13:51] <Lartza_> I think it worked earlier when I used the more slow burninddrive
[13:51] <dgjones> Lartza_, sounds like either the bios isn't set to boot from cd, or as IndyGunFreak suggests its a bad burn
[13:51] <jrib> D3f0: so seems like puppet is the kind of thing you want right?
[13:51] <D3f0> jrib, yeap
[13:51] <IndyGunFreak> Lartza_: well, burn speed can effect the burn...
[13:52] <Lartza_> IndyGunFreak: Yes I can and the Feisty CD booted earlier(Year ago) and these cd's are free from ShipIt
[13:52] <Lartza_> and my burind drive is 16x, but that doesn't matter in this situation
[13:52] <IndyGunFreak> Lartza_: just because they were free and shipped to you, doesn't mean they were burned properly.  I've had issues w/ shipit cds, and burned my own and they worked fine
[13:53] <Lartza_> But it worked earlier. It mgiht been same problem earlier. (CD not first)
[13:53] <Lartza_> I reboot and try that. If I don't come back soon then it's solved
[13:53] <IndyGunFreak> Lartza_: well, then change your CD to be first.
[13:53] <IndyGunFreak> duh
[13:53] <Lartza_> Thanks
[13:54] <sista> Hello
[13:54] <user123456> can anyone help with autologin question?
[13:54] <sista> you speking french?
[13:55] <dgjones> !fr | sista
[13:55] <ubot3> sista: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[13:56] <lng> hi! is there fish lile browser?
[13:57] <ApOgEE-> hi all...
[13:59] <genii> user123456: Perhaps see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636835
[13:59] <Hiya> hello
[13:59] <Hiya> did it just got silent?
[14:00] <genii> Hiya: Yes, enjoy it while it lasts :)
[14:01] <Lartza_> My LiveCD isn't booting
[14:01]  * Hiya sends ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ to the channel
[14:02] <genii> Lartza_: When it fails to boot, what happens?
[14:02] <Lartza_> My LiveCD isn't booting
[14:02] <Lartza_> Nothing, that's the problem
[14:02] <Lartza_> When it searches bootable CD it doesn't find one
[14:03] <user123456> genii: many thanks
[14:03] <mysorean> hi, am having some problem in running evolution on a low res monitor
[14:03] <Sin42_> is there a reason that nowhere in ubuntu wiki/forums can a warning be found that truecrypt does not work properly with the current kernel?
[14:04] <Lartza_> My LiveCD isn't booting
[14:04] <Lartza_> When it searches bootable CD it doesn't find one
[14:05] <soroush> hey
[14:05] <soroush> What should i do to mkinitrd in ubuntu?
[14:05] <Sin42_> Lartza_: 7.10 worked fine for me, try to download again and do some md5sum on it to be sure it is not corrupted
[14:05] <genii> user123456: np, good luck with it
[14:06] <soroush> i should do mkinitrd to use ext2 partitions I have ispite my old ext3 partitions
[14:06] <jaime> hello
[14:06] <kris_ph> hello... go this error when m trying to upload a file Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds
[14:06] <Lartza_> Sin42_: Mine is the ShipIt version
[14:06] <Juhaz> bios settings?
[14:06] <user123456> genii: following on from that, could I use the exec line in /etc/event.d/tt1 to login as root and execute a script?
[14:06] <Lartza_> Juhaz: Me.
[14:06] <Juhaz> yes
[14:07] <aurehman_> Hi...I just installed ffmpeg from apt-get install ffmpeg... but my mov files are not converting...anyone help me
[14:07] <fan33> There is  one   who  could  tell me where  Chinese  room?
[14:07] <Lartza_> Juhaz: I think they are right
[14:07] <dgjones> !cn | fan33
[14:07] <ubot3> fan33: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[14:07] <Lartza_> Juhaz: Maybe I should try feisty livecd
[14:07] <Lartza_> and then upgrade it
[14:07] <genii> Lartza_: As Sin42_ suggests, check the md5 sum of the iso image. Also ensure you are making a cd from the image and not just copying the iso file to the cd. Also your computer bios should have cd as first boot device
[14:08] <aurehman_> ubot3: I just installed ffmpeg from apt-get install ffmpeg... but my mov files are not converting... help me
[14:08] <ubot3> aurehman_: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[14:08] <zerboxx> I need some help, I'm trying to run a program and I'm getting a runtime error about missing a shared library
[14:08] <Juhaz> Lartza_, you might have to set the ide channel to cdrom or auto or something like that too, I've seen quite a few where it works fine when those are None, except it won't boot from cd, even if the boot settings are right.
[14:08] <aurehman_> anyone help me... I just installed ffmpeg from apt-get install ffmpeg... but my mov files are not converting...
[14:08] <incorrect> i want to know the total number of packages in my current list of repositories
[14:08] <incorrect> is this possible?
[14:08] <Sinnerman> anyone know how to make the icons inside the gnome-panel menu-bar smaller? i just want the icons smaller, because there's a lot of dead space around them, and the menus are stretching all across the screen, which isn't very nice.
[14:08] <aurehman_> nyone help me... I just installed ffmpeg from apt-get install ffmpeg... but my mov files are not converting..
[14:08] <genii> user123456: Better to use rc.local or put a script in init.d instead of there
[14:09] <jrib> incorrect: synaptic tells you, look at the bottom left
[14:09] <aurehman_> nyone help me... I just installed ffmpeg from apt-get install ffmpeg... but my mov files are not converting..
[14:09] <Lartza_> Juhaz: ide channel? feisty booted earlier and i have only changed the boot order. I think it's the cd
[14:09] <incorrect> jrib, and if you have a server?
[14:09] <Sin42_> incorrect: as a guess try man dkpg
[14:09] <zerboxx> aurehman_: Try to not ask so often
[14:09] <user123456> genii: the script requires user interaction and ideally started as soon as possible
[14:09] <Lartza_> Juhaz: But would you tell me about the ide channel thing?
[14:09] <zerboxx> aurehman_: I'd love to help, I'm just not sure, sorry
[14:09] <Sin42_> incorrect: man dpkg sorry
[14:09] <Lartza_> Juhaz: It might work
[14:09] <kate_mins> Hello,
[14:09] <incorrect> dpkg i don't think know anything about the repositories
[14:09] <zerboxx> I need some help, I'm trying to run a program and I'm getting a runtime error about missing a shared library
[14:10] <genii> user123456: I'd suggest rc.local then
[14:10] <fan33> Is  there  someone  who  can  speak  Chinese?
[14:10] <aurehman_> anybody help me... in this case..nyone help me... I just installed ffmpeg from apt-get install ffmpeg... but my mov files are not converting..
[14:10] <Juhaz> Lartza_, can't really tell anything specific, since it varies between bioses.
[14:10] <Sin42_> incorrect: i see, misunderstood, apt-cache perhaps but it's just a guess
[14:11] <jrib> incorrect: I'd expects something like: aptitude search '.' | wc -l   to work but it differs from what synaptic reports here
[14:11] <incorrect> many years ago when i used debian apt-get update used to tell you
[14:11] <legend2440> aurehman_: what are you converting mov files to? avi?
[14:12] <aurehman_> legend2440: i m converting files to flv
[14:12] <incorrect> apt-cache stats
[14:12] <incorrect> jrib, i expect that is because of the difference between a meta package and a normal package
[14:13] <hanabi> Hello.. I got a problem with a DWL-650+ Cardbus Wireless card here..
[14:15] <aurehman_> legend2440: i m waiting for your response
[14:15] <simion314> hi, what html source editor can i use in Ubuntu? i want to edit source not something with drag and drop
[14:15] <unstable> Why do I often get this "ERROR NAME; ioerror COMMAND; fill OPERAND STACK; --dicttype-- --dicttype-- --dicttype-- --dicttype--" when I try to print a PDF...
[14:16] <unstable> I can print the exact same PDF with a mac or windows, and it works fine.
[14:16] <unstable> I can print it with xpdf, and it works fine. but if I print it with evince, default setting...or any setting it seems like..I get this error.
[14:17] <legend2440> aurehman_:  only thing i can find is avi or mpeg to flv
[14:17] <ubunoob> hi all
[14:18] <ubunoob> i was installed 7.10 alternate on an AMD64 pc. The install went ok, but after reboot the system can't load
[14:18] <strabes> ubunoob: what type of video card? when does it crash?
[14:19] <ubunoob> if i choose recovery mode the system boot up
[14:19] <strabes> ubunoob: boots up to what? GDM (the login screen)
[14:19] <MindSpark> now I want to start another X instance with a different window manager. Does anyone know how to do that ?
[14:19] <ubunoob> the last thing what i saw the grub, then the system stops
[14:21] <strabes> ubunoob: On the GRUB menu, edit the main kernel line and remove the parameter "splash". Then boot from that line and see where it crashes
[14:22]  * delcoyote hi/hola
[14:22] <ubunoob> ok i will try if im go home. thanks
[14:23] <ubunoob> bye all
[14:23] <Nasra> hello...
[14:23] <Nasra> just intalled ubuntu for first time...
[14:24] <kimmey2k3> and?
[14:24] <Jaapjan2> Congratulations.
[14:24] <Nasra> and my video on the desktop is not good it showing half page and is unreadable...
[14:24] <Jaapjan2> What sort of video card do you have?
[14:24] <Nasra> one second...
[14:24] <amenado> MindSpark-> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596101954/toc.html  maybe chapter 2?
[14:24] <Eicca> How can I set Skype to start whenever I turn on my computer? I have Ubuntu 7.10.
[14:25] <jrib> !startup > Eicca (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:25] <Nasra> it's one of those cheap compter used...
[14:25] <Nasra> nvidia
[14:25] <Jaapjan2> Then I'd start with installing the NVidia drivers via the restricted driver manager in your settings menu.
[14:26] <Nasra> and when I click to see a page...it's unreadable...etc..
[14:26] <Nasra> but...
[14:26] <Nasra> I installed all updates...
[14:26] <kimmey2k3> Try envy
[14:26] <Nasra> over a 100 last nite...
[14:26] <Nasra> should be okay..
[14:26] <kimmey2k3> http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[14:26] <Eicca> jirib whats the command for skype?
[14:27] <kalatian> !envy | kimmey2k3 Jaapjan2
[14:27] <ubot3> kimmey2k3 Jaapjan2: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[14:27] <Jaapjan2> Nasra: The NVidia video driver, since it isn't open source/restricted, it not installed by default.
[14:28] <Jaapjan2> kalatian: Yes, but for a first time user the nvidia driver is more easily installed via the restricted manager.
[14:28] <Jaapjan2> kalatian: But thank you kindly for the note.
[14:28] <Shyde> is it even a nvidia problem? ..
[14:28] <Jaapjan2> I'd start there.
[14:28] <Shyde> Nasra: what exactly isn't displayed correctly? did you enable/disable the 3d desktop settings?
[14:28] <Nasra> Jaapjan2...what should I do then?
[14:29] <Nasra> letme tell you...
[14:29] <kalatian> Jaapjan2: at your own risk :) if you need something that isn't provided, that may be the way to go about doing it, you're correct :)
[14:29] <noodlesgc> amazing, this channel is not flooded with thousands of people asking for help
[14:29] <slayer^_^> hello everybody, i need help with my partitions... may someone help me?
[14:30] <kalatian> the amazing part is there are thousands of people here, most of whom don't talk...
[14:30] <meridian> Hi
[14:30] <Jaapjan2> kalatian: What is at my own risk? Envy isn't provided by default, the restricted driver manager is .. and Envy installs the same driver if all is right.
[14:30] <Bergcube> QUESTION: If things go wrong in a server install or when installing from the alternate CD...  What is the command to restart the configuration dialogue(s)?
[14:30] <Nasra> when I click let's say firefox....the page is not displayed properly...and where it says application/ firefox/email that does not show at all and if so...half page...etc..
[14:30] <kalatian> Jaapjan2: if you want the driver that comes with Ubuntu, you should use the restricted manager and not envy
[14:30] <kalatian> if you want a newer one, you are left to your own devices
[14:31] <Jaapjan2> kalatian: The driver is for Nasra. I use Envy. But I think for someone who has installed linux the first time, like Nasra, the manager is easier then dealing with repositories.
[14:31] <Nasra> doing my transition from windows....(having this problem already.) help will be appreciated..
[14:31] <Jaapjan2> Nasra: I'd try the nvidia driver first and see if that controls your display better.
[14:32] <wastedyouth> I can't see the text on the conole with CTRL-ALT-f1... I can see a blinking cursor and I can enter commands blindly.  Anybody know why this might happen?
[14:32] <Nasra> ok...
[14:32] <kalatian> So I'm confused: why not just use the restricted manager to install the driver?
[14:32] <Jaapjan2> kalatian: That is what I am arguing on doing. You brought envy up.
[14:32] <Mangan> the man for parted doesnt help with this small issue, my command is: SUDO PARTED /dev/sdg MKPART PRIMARY EXT3 ... then I get asked what my START and END points are ... but I just want to tell him ALL, MAXIMUM SIZE .. how can I do that?
[14:33] <kalatian> Jaapjan2: sorry, I think there was just a misunderstanding -- I agree completely,
[14:33] <kalatian> restricted manager is the way to go
[14:33] <Jaapjan2> kalatian: Great :D Solved.
[14:33] <kalatian> (sorry for the confusion)
[14:34] <Jaapjan2> kalatian: 't is alright. Now to see if it benefits Nasra.
[14:34] <kalatian> yep
[14:34] <Jaapjan2> Mangan: I am sorry, I always use the graphical installer ... or fdisk.
[14:34] <legend2440> aurehman_:  http://blog.gwikzone.org/articles/2006/09/25/flv-encoding-with-ffmpeg
[14:34] <Strawberryjam> someone gave me a script for installing alsa into gutsy here once, does anybody have any ideas on how to do it? I have an EMU1212m soundcard that does not work with Ubuntu out of the box
[14:34] <slayer^_^> sorry for the confusion, how may i know when is my time to ask?
[14:34] <Pici> slayer^_^: just ask
[14:35] <Pici> !ask
[14:35] <ubot3> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[14:35] <noodlesgc> Mangan why not just install gparted?
[14:35] <kalatian> it's pretty freeform: just ask the question, and someone will help you out if they know the answer :)
[14:35] <meridian> Yesterday I installed the wi-fi on ubuntu. Then I executed "sudo pppeoconf wlan0" command. Internet worked but the next time that I started Ubuntu the icon of wifi disappeard. Can anyone help me?
[14:36] <ArthurArchnix> There was this program I had once that let me open and edit pdf documents. It opened the pdf as an image and let me make notes... now I can't find it
[14:36] <noodlesgc> meridian what brand wireless card?
[14:36] <Juhaz> ArthurArchnix, flpsed
[14:36] <Jaapjan2> ArthurArchnix: Xournal?
[14:36] <jerbear> for some reason, when i login to an x session, my zprofile does not load for zsh... it does load when logging in over ssh. anyone know what might be the problem?
[14:37] <meridian> sitecom
[14:37] <ArthurArchnix> xournal.. I think that was it Jaapjan2. I'll check out flpsed though too. thanks
[14:37] <meridian> 172 v1
[14:37] <Jaapjan2> ArthurArchnix: Took only one google search, top result. linux pdf note taking
[14:38] <noodlesgc> meridian try this: sudo ifup wlan0
[14:38] <ArthurArchnix> Jaapjan2: I must have been using the wrong search terms. Never came up.
[14:38] <leonardo_> !list
[14:38] <legend2440> ArthurArchnix: pdfedit in synaptic?
[14:38] <ubot3> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[14:38] <meridian> I reinstalled Ubuntu and than the wifi (and Internet) worked...but, another time, when I restarted the SO wifi icon disappeard
[14:38] <ArthurArchnix> legend2440: tried it... don't really like it
[14:38] <rico_> Can someone please help me with openoffice.  I am trying to make a simple flyer for my lost dog, and i can't seem to insert picture from my desktop.
[14:38] <Mangan> @noodlesgc: need to do it on the shell .. is it possible with GPARTED to set END to MAXIMUM?
[14:39] <Schamane_> hi
[14:39] <kalatian> !hi
[14:39] <ubot3> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[14:39] <Schamane_>  anybody here, using export DISPLAY? anybody here, using export DISPLAY?
[14:39] <Jaapjan2> rico_: Use the menu and find 'insert graphic' or something akin, do not try and drag.
[14:39] <Schamane_> ups
[14:39] <meridian> and than should the wifi work? I ask for this because I'm in windows
[14:39] <legend2440> aurehman_: did you read this?  http://blog.gwikzone.org/articles/2006/09/25/flv-encoding-with-ffmpeg
[14:39] <slayer^_^> i have converted a fat32 partition into ext3; ubuntu set root permissions for it and a different mount point; how may i : 1) change permissions (in terminal, as well) 2) wich permissions shall i set to set this ext3 partition permission-like to others 3) set a new mountpoint for it 4)remove this mountpoint (fstab still reports the old mountpoint and not the new one - that if i'm not wrong appears to be in a different file)
[14:39] <jrib> rico_: should just be Insert -> Picture -> From file...
[14:40] <meridian> and if I need to do other steps I can not recconect to internet from ubuntu :D
[14:40] <noodlesgc> meridian if you wireless is down that should bring it back up
[14:40] <Viden> I am having an issue with Evolution connecting to Exchange ... about 10 -20 crashes a day it seems.  When i try to search contacts or subscribe to public folders it will hang for about 2 mins and then exit.  Can anyone help?
[14:40] <meridian> ok
[14:40] <nottha_k> when is the next ubuntu long term release planned?
[14:40] <jrib> nottha_k: next month
[14:40] <Jaapjan2> April.
[14:40] <meridian> thank you very much!!
[14:40] <rico_> Jaapjan2: I can't find that pathway, i've tried and tried.
[14:40] <meridian> I'll be back in few time!
[14:40] <aurehman_> legend2440: i m reading and installing as mentioned in the link
[14:40] <nottha_k> jrib: the next one is supposed to be an LTS?
[14:40] <Jaapjan2> rico_: And what jrib offered?
[14:41] <Jaapjan2> nottha_k: Yes.
[14:41] <jrib> nottha_k: yes
[14:41] <nottha_k> awesome thanks.
[14:41] <noodlesgc> what is an LTS?
[14:41] <JohnMM> when will horny haron come out?
[14:41] <genii> Long Term Support
[14:41] <jrib> !hardy | JohnMM
[14:41] <ubot3> JohnMM: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:41] <dgjones> !lts | noodlesgc
[14:41] <ubot3> noodlesgc: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[14:42] <noodlesgc> oh
[14:42] <LaserSpeed> hi everyone
[14:42] <JohnMM> thanks jrib
[14:42] <LaserSpeed> umm i had a technical question
[14:42] <integration> hey guys i'm running gutsy with a lenovo laptop with integrated wireless on it and it's not detecting the network that windows detects. Here is my iwconfig result. Does it look like everything is alright or do you see something that I should be worried about? see: http://pastebin.ca/939689
[14:42] <ubuntuzz> hello. i have a fresh installation (third time) of the newest ubuntu on my laptop. it works fine when starting with safemode and booting with cd. but if i start it "normal" it takes along time to boot (14min). why?
[14:42] <LaserSpeed> if anyone can help
[14:42]  * genii uses 6.06 server until 2011
[14:42] <aurehman_> legend2440: i've installed lame as mentioned in the tutorial.. and then download ffmpeg from svn...but when i install it with libmp3lame it gives error...Unknown option "--enable-mp3lame".
[14:43] <noodlesgc> LaserSpeed yes just ask the question and if someone can help, they will
[14:43] <Strawberryjam> anybody have script for installing alsa 1.1.15rc?
[14:43] <legend2440> aurehman_: read down toward bottom of article in comments. someone addresses that
[14:43] <camba> hi... after a lot of recearch I can't find a way to emulate MIDI input/output. Any ideas or is there any software like MIDI Yoke for the Linux OS
[14:43] <noodlesgc> integration it looks ok to me
[14:44] <noodlesgc> camba try timidity
[14:44] <LaserSpeed> I have installed ubuntu on my laptop previously, and i had the looooong boot time problem as well, but that went away. The main problem is trying to find drivers, also my wifi card and ethernet card are disabled so i have no way of accessing the internet after install.
[14:44] <Schamane_>  anybody here, using export DISPLAY?
[14:44] <noodlesgc> LaserSpeed what brand card?
[14:44] <integration> noodlesgc, from I can gather it has detected the 802.11 integrated card
[14:44] <jrib> !anybody | Schamane_
[14:44] <ubot3> Schamane_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[14:44] <rico_> Jaapjan2, gabkdlly: kool, thanks, i was trying drag and drop wouldn't work, now i got it. thank you thank you.
[14:44] <LaserSpeed> noodlesgc, im not sure exactly let me check.
[14:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Strawberryjam, Aside from the fact that we dont support studio...  I am working a script now
[14:45] <Jaapjan2> rico_: You're welcome.
[14:45] <terminal> after installing win xp i m nt able to open ubuntu
[14:45] <probono> hi all, how can I mount something in hardy so that it does _not_ show up on the dektop as a mounted disk? (i'm trying to loop-mount an ISO that should NOT show up on the desktop)
[14:45] <bobbob1016> How can I enable AIGLX with the i810 driver?  I'm trying to get compiz running, when I run "compiz --replace" in the terminal, I get a seg fault core dump, after it looks for XGL
[14:45] <slayer^_^> terminal : windows xp freaked out grub on your MBR
[14:45] <dgjones> terminal, did you install windows after you installed ubuntu?
[14:45] <dgjones> !grub | terminal
[14:45] <ubot3> terminal: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[14:45] <LaserSpeed> ( noodlesgc ): broadcom
[14:46] <jrib> probono: #ubuntu+1 for hardy support
[14:46] <probono> thanks jrib
[14:46] <aurehman_> legend2440: thanx.. I m installing libmp3lame now
[14:47] <legend2440> aurehman_: yw gl
[14:47] <aurehman_> legend2440: thanx bro :)
[14:47] <legend2440> aurehman_: yw gl
[14:48] <jditto> hello
[14:48] <jditto> can anyone help me with vnc?
[14:48] <terminal> dejones, ya
[14:48] <patogen> Already asked in other places ... but how do you kill an uninterruptibel process?
[14:48] <jditto> vnc4server using xvnc?  i've got it working but i need some help troubleshooting.
[14:48] <patogen> Is there really no way?
[14:48] <patogen> "kill" or "kill -9" doesn't work
[14:48] <Schamane_> jrib: thx, but not really helpful
[14:49] <rico_> jaapjan2, i got one picture on there but when i try to add a second one get an error message 'graphics filter not found' what could that mean?
[14:49] <Jaapjan2> rico_: The picture is perhaps in another format not supported?
[14:49] <Schamane_> ia cant connect to my local x server, no-listen-tcp and xhost + already done
[14:49] <noodlesgc> patogen i just open gnome-system-monitor, right click the process and hit kill
[14:49] <noodlesgc> patogen it works sometimes
[14:50] <colourAgga> !flash
[14:50] <ubot3> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[14:50] <Schamane_> but since an update long a few months ago theres noc chance to get it back running
[14:50] <jrib> Schamane_: it's impossible to help you by answering your original question, that's the point
[14:50] <patogen> noodlesgc: Tried that already
[14:50] <rico_> jaapjan2, both pics are jpg
[14:50] <Jgonick> Opinions ... I'm getting a new sound card.  What is a good Linux supported sound card. (nothing fancy)
[14:50] <Jaapjan2> rico_: Sounds odd. I do not know.
[14:50] <Schamane_> jrib: sure, but i can contact the one who got it running
[14:50] <Schamane_> easier to find out
[14:51] <Schamane_> whats wrong in my config
[14:51] <ibm-m6__> Hello, i would like to know what is the command "export LC_ALL=C" stand for ?
[14:51] <colourAgga> !sound
[14:51] <ubot3> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[14:51] <Schamane_> sorry for the wrong way, but im really searching for a long time now and still no solution
[14:52] <colourAgga> !fonts
[14:52] <ubot3> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[14:52] <jditto> can anyone help me with vnc?
[14:52] <jditto> vnc4server using xvnc?  i've got it working but i need some help troubleshooting.
[14:52] <jrib> Schamane_: explain in more detail what you are trying to do.  I've used "export DISPLAY" to use my current X server as a different user, but I'm not sure what you are doing
[14:52] <Schamane_> jditto: whats the prob?
[14:53] <Schamane_> jrib: as different user there is no prob, on local interface it works find
[14:53] <Schamane_> jrib: but i try to export the x from antoher host in another location
[14:53] <Schamane_> and it couldn connect since an xserver update
[14:54] <Schamane_> a few months ago
[14:54] <jrib> Schamane_: but the same setup worked before?
[14:55] <Schamane_> jrib: yes
[14:55] <legend2440> ibm-m6__: has something to do with c compiler  http://www.intel.com/support/performancetools/c/linux/sb/cs-017387.htm
[14:55] <slayer^_^> i have converted a fat32 partition into ext3; ubuntu set root permissions for it and a different mount point; how may i : 1) change permissions (in terminal, as well) 2) wich permissions shall i set to set this ext3 partition permission-like to others 3) set a new mountpoint for it 4)remove this mountpoint (fstab still reports the old mountpoint and not the new one - that if i'm not wrong appears to be in a different file)
[14:55] <jditto> shamane:  sorry i got a phone call
[14:55] <jrib> !permissions > slayer^_^ (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:55] <andre80> hi
[14:56] <andre80> i need info please
[14:56] <andre80> i use gutsy
[14:56] <Jaapjan2> ask
[14:56] <slayer^_^> sorry
[14:56] <jrib> slayer^_^: you set permissions same as anything else, use chmod/chown on the files.  fstab issue is strange, update fstab to what you want.  Unmount and remount
[14:56] <Schamane_> jrib: its somthing with securety in xserver , in the past it was no-listen-tcp
[14:56] <BB88> Hello, I have recently migrated from Windows Vista. I have done a fresh install of Ubuntu, deleting my old windows partition, but my second partition is not displayed in Ubuntu, any ideas?
[14:56] <andre80> and i cant write to folder which i have group permission on it
[14:57] <Jafet> BB88, what filesystem is on said partition?
[14:57] <jrib> Schamane_: I understand, I don't really know much about it though.  Try to summarize what you just explained on one line and ask again in a few minutes
[14:57] <BB88> Jafet, I am assuming NTFS.
[14:57] <meridian> hi
[14:57] <meridian> when i execute the commend
[14:57] <andre80> any clue ?
[14:57] <jrib> !enter | meridian, andre80
[14:57] <ubot3> meridian, andre80: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:57] <andre80> ok
[14:58] <jrib> andre80: what is the path to the directory?
[14:58] <Jafet> BB88, you probably need separate NTFS drivers. Never tried, but look into linux-ntfs etc.
[14:58] <Jaapjan2> andre80: The filesystem you are trying to write on is read only perhaps?
[14:58] <andre80> my question is: i cannot write to a folder which i have group permission on it, i cant even do a touch on it. I m using gutsy
[14:58] <Schamane_> jrib: i already postet in in the forum 4 months ago, but no answer, it seemsnot much people using this feature
[14:58] <BB88> Jafet, If it is not that, any other ideas?
[14:58] <kthakore> what is the best supported video card on ubuntu (preferably some of the newer ones)?
[14:58] <jditto> schamane:  problem is i connect remotely over ssh (putty) then tunnel through to the vnc that i setup using an xinetd service called Xvnc so that i can log into the gdm.  however connection is over broadband and it seems to be slow even when i set graphics options on the client to lower color depth.  at some point i get kicked off and can't get back on for at least 4+ hours.  i can't log in to ssh terminal etc... i don't have to reboot se
[14:58] <jditto> just starts to work again i assume it's because some service or cron job is resetting things.
[14:59] <aurehman_> legend2440: unfortunately the problem is still same...
[14:59] <meridian> it tells me: "ifup: interface wlan0 already configured"
[14:59] <Jafet> BB88, your partition could be unrecognized or borked. Check if gparted knows what it is...
[14:59] <lunaphyte_> darn.  i missed a comment in my scrollback.
[14:59] <aurehman_> legend2440: mov are not converting... all in vain
[14:59] <alanbshepard70> I have an old packard bell ir sensor that connects to a serial port and accepts commands from a remote and would allow me to move the mouse and simulate keystrokes. Does anyone know of a way to use the above with ubuntu? Is there anything available that does that sort of thing?
[14:59] <lunaphyte_> why might volume groups disappear when upgrading from 6.1 to 7.0.4 using do-release-upgrade?
[14:59] <legend2440> aurehman_: error message?
[14:59] <Jaapjan2> kthakore: It depends on who you ask. I'd say Nvidia if you want halfway decent 3d performance too.
[14:59] <Schamane_> jditto: ssh doesnt work after you get kicked?
[14:59] <jditto> schamane: correct
[15:00] <andre80> JaapJan: i can write to it when i have the user permission on it. for example i can write a folder belongs to andre:andre , but not to a nobody:andre which i belong to andre:andre
[15:00] <Schamane_> hm, sounds like an network problem
[15:00] <jrib> Schamane_: checked bugs.ubuntu.com as well?
[15:00] <BB88> Jafet, I am new to Ubuntu, I have no idea what you mean!  But I have had trouble with it since .. well .. a long time.
[15:01] <Schamane_> jditto: can you try an /etc/init.d/network restart after getting kicked? or cant you go to the computer
[15:01] <BB88> Jafet, Yes, GParted confirms it as NTFS and has an exclamation mark on it?
[15:01] <leagris> Anyone using Orca? I have it hang while trying to display the magnifying window (compiz disabled).
[15:01] <kthakore> Jaapjan2, are there any benchmarks for different nvidia cards on ubuntu?
[15:01] <Jafet> BB88, probably doesn't have Vista support yet then.
[15:01] <Jafet> Does Vista use a new NTFS?
[15:02] <Jaapjan2> kthakore: Generally you can use the windows benchmarks and simply subtract x% in performance. The relative performance should be the same since they're unified drivers, mostly.
[15:02] <BB88> Jafet, Not entirely sure. Anyway to access the files and drag them over or anything?
[15:02] <jditto> schamane:  no i can't get to computer it's at my clients office.  i set this up so that i could manage remotely.  but the only time i can get to server is during normal business hours and sometimes that can be difficult.
[15:02] <PriceChild> !windows | Jafet
[15:02] <ubot3> Jafet: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[15:03] <Schamane_> jditto: i would do an cronjob wich run all 10 minutes in restarting connection
[15:03] <Schamane_> an after you get kicked
[15:03] <kthakore> Jaapjan2, x% ?
[15:03] <Schamane_> wait ten minutes
[15:03] <aurehman_> legend2440: you there... did u see the error message... the format is unknow for ffmpeg
[15:03] <Jaapjan2> kthakore: Yes, x percent. Unknown amount.
[15:03] <Jafet> BB88, dunno. Check if any NTFS drivers support Vista NTFS.
[15:03] <Schamane_> if it works again you have your fault
[15:03] <Schamane_> but no solution :(
[15:03] <legend2440> aurehman_: here is aprogram that is supposed to convert mov to flv. i have never tried it so i don't know http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652843
[15:03] <Jafet> PriceChild, what the Darfur?
[15:03] <kthakore> Jaapjan2, 10-20% or more like 80-- 90%?
[15:04] <legend2440> aurehman_:  yes i read the pastebin
[15:04] <BB88> Jafet, http://pastebin.com/m2d0fa824 I guess I should try that?
[15:04] <aurehman_> legend2440: actually ffmpeg is working fine in my fedora 8
[15:04] <jditto> schamane: thanks i think i'll try that.
[15:04] <aurehman_> legend2440: but it is causing problem in ubuntu..
[15:05] <jditto> schamane:  thank-you
[15:05] <jditto> later.
[15:05] <Jaapjan2> kthakore: No no! Don't quote me but I'd say 10-20%
[15:05] <kthakore> Jaapjan2, oh thats fine
[15:05] <BB88> Jafet, ah well that worked. Thank you for your help! :)
[15:05] <Jafet> BB88, strange, Firefox doesn't want to start.
[15:05] <terminal> repaing ubuntu bootloader??
[15:05] <legend2440> aurehman_:  thats weird. i only have converted avi and mpeg myself so i'm not much help
[15:05] <kthakore> Jaapjan2, I get that much back in my mem and CPU performance so its an okay trade
[15:05] <andre80> eh for a folder which group belong to me and the permission is drwxrwxrw-, can i write to it ? coz i cannot write, not even touch
[15:06] <Jgonick> any recommendations on a sound card?
[15:06] <BB88> Jafet, Was just a command to ignore the NTFS in use sorta, 'sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /media/sda2 -o force'
[15:06] <kthakore> Jgon
[15:06] <Jafet> BB88, hrm, that might work.
[15:06] <Schamane_> andre80: ntfs?
[15:06] <andre80> reiserfs
[15:06] <BB88> Jafet, It did :D
[15:06] <Strawberryjam> my ubuntu installation is not connected to the internet and i need something called build-essential...can someone help me?
[15:06] <Jaapjan2> kthakore: Righto.
[15:06] <Schamane_> is it mounted read only?
[15:06] <kthakore> Jgonick, sound blaster audigy I have had good experiences wtih
[15:06] <terminal> repaing ubuntu bootloader??
[15:07] <andre80> no, i can write when the permission was set to my user
[15:07] <andre80> and i can write to it using root
[15:07] <Schamane_> andre80: and sorry, IMHO nobody who loves his data uses reiser ;)
[15:07] <Schamane_> andre80: hm, sounds strange
[15:08] <Jaapjan2> Schamane_: There's always Ext2 - Noatime - Sync :D
[15:08] <Schamane_> andre80: an chmod -R 777 /mounted_fs
[15:08] <andre80> OMG, then what FS should i use ?
[15:08] <artenius> wil DVD's work in ubuntu? or is there something special I need?
[15:08] <Schamane_> andre80: i always uses ext3
[15:08] <terminal> repaing ubuntu bootloader??
[15:09] <Jaapjan2> artenius: It depends on if the dvd is region encrypted or not.
[15:09] <nasamo> hello. I have a pc with ubuntu and a mac jaguar trying to connect through a wired network, but no success so far. Can anybody help me?
[15:09] <Schamane_> andre80: its an good, stable journaling file system
[15:09] <terminal> repaing ubuntu bootloader??
[15:09] <artenius> Jaapjan2: how would I know?
[15:09] <kthakore> terminal, what wrong?
[15:09] <andre80> schamane_: if i use 777 then it seems no diferent than using Windoze
[15:09] <genii> !dvd
[15:09] <ubot3> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[15:10] <Jaapjan2> artenius: It usually says so on the disk. But see ubot3's reply.
[15:10] <kthakore> terminal, Grub? or Kernel panic
[15:10] <legend2440> aurehman_:  when i type ffmpeg -formats in terminal it lists all formats ffmpeg recognizes. in my list flv and mov are listed
[15:10] <Schamane_> andre80: its just to try out
[15:10] <kthakore> terminal, we need some kind of error to diagnose
[15:10] <aurehman_> legend2440: yes it is supported formats but not installed codecs
[15:10] <nasamo> anybody?
[15:11] <andre80> schamane_: it works fine on 777
[15:11] <legend2440> aurehman_:  oh ok
[15:13] <andre80> kindof strange, this is the 1st time i encounter this
[15:14] <andre80> this is my fstab
[15:14] <andre80> # /dev/sda2
[15:14] <andre80> UUID=58d1268e-d79b-47a7-b381-582eb7bd64ff /               reiserfs notail          0       1
[15:14] <andre80> # /dev/sda1
[15:14] <andre80> UUID=18c3ad88-c0cd-4848-a4ca-5928128985df /home           reiserfs defaults        0       2
[15:14] <andre80> # /dev/sda4
[15:14] <FloodBot3> andre80: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:14] <lunaphyte_> how do i mount a filesystem that's on a volume group if something happened to the volume group and it's "not there" anymore?
[15:15] <nasamo> hello. I have a pc with ubuntu and a mac jaguar trying to connect through a wired network, but no success so far. Can anybody help me?
[15:15] <Jaapjan2> nasamo: Have you activated windows sharing on your mac?
[15:16] <nasamo> Jaapjan2, yes
[15:16] <Jaapjan2> nasamo: And networking from the menu doesn't show anything, I presume, on Ubuntu?
[15:16] <kane77> how can I execute some thing right after I connect to some machine via ssh?
[15:16] <nasamo> Jaapjan2, it seems to be a password problem, but I'm not sure
[15:16] <zoli2k> nasamo: Directly connect the two machines or trough an Access Point?
[15:17] <nDuff> Is there a timezone for US/Central? tzselect won't let me set it, and America/Monterrey (which I had been using) is no longer correct after daylight savings flipped.
[15:18] <nasamo> zoli2k, how do I connect trough an access point?
[15:18] <ItchyHobo> Jaapjan2, methinks the answer is if you modify the machine you are connecting to like adding some starting program to sessions or adding a link to startup of windows
[15:18] <irvken> drwxrwsrwx - what does the s stand for?
[15:18] <Jaapjan2> ItchyHobo: Pardon? I do not have any problem?
[15:18] <nasamo> Jaapjan2, I can see my mac trough FTP
[15:19] <ItchyHobo> Jaapjan2, ah sorry it was kane 77
[15:19] <init6> I ran "apt-get remove mediawiki mediawiki-math" but still see files in /var/lib/mediawiki1.7 on Ubuntu server 6.06.  How do I actually remove the packages?
[15:19] <jrib> irvken: setgid (see man chmod)
[15:19] <ItchyHobo> kane77,  methinks the answer is if you modify the machine you are connecting to like adding some starting program to sessions or adding a link to startup of windows
[15:19] <ItchyHobo> kane77, so whenever you login the program executes
[15:20] <kane77> ItchyHobo, yes, but how do I do that?
[15:20] <macdunbar> can someone help with my keyboard? i have to hold a key down for 3secs for it to register
[15:20] <aurehman_> legend2440: do u know some codecs which are supported in ffmpeg... and which can help mov to flv conversion
[15:20] <jrib> init6: you probably need to purge
[15:20] <Jgonick> kthakore: thx for the suggestion.  It looks like it uses the same port for line in and the mic.  Other than that it looks great..
[15:20] <legend2440> aurehman_: no sorry i don't never tried that
[15:20] <init6> jrib, Thanks.  I tried "apt-get remove --purge mediawiki mediawiki-math" and that did not delete the files either.
[15:21] <ItchyHobo> kane77, see after you connect to the machine and have admin rights on it you can do pretty much anything you wan to do with it.. like adding programs that run automatically when u login
[15:21] <kane77> ItchyHobo, well yeah, but where do I put the script?
[15:21] <jrib> init6: try "autoremove".   You need to get rid of the dependencies as well.  This is easier to do with aptitude in my opinion
[15:22] <Jaapjan2> kane77: Add it to .bash_login
[15:22] <kane77> Jaapjan2, thanx
[15:22] <suxxor> i need help
[15:22] <ItchyHobo> kane77, in the sessions settings i guess system>preferences>sessions,
[15:22] <lee___> jrib: Why can't I play any .ogg that I record, but I can play others, and others can play mine?
[15:22] <suxxor>  cp garbqga.jpg /home/kaloqn
[15:22] <suxxor> cp: cannot stat `garbqga.jpg': No such file or directory
[15:22] <suxxor> what i am missing so i can`t copy that file
[15:22] <jrib> suxxor: there is no file called garbqga.jpg in your current directory
[15:23] <kane77> Jaapjan2, I knew there was some script that is run when I log in! thanx
[15:23] <init6> "apt-get autoremove mediawiki mediawiki-math" produces "E: Invalid operation autoremove".
[15:23] <jrib> lee___: no idea.  Do you get errors or you just don't hear anything?
[15:23] <Jaapjan2> kane77: You are welcome.
[15:23] <lee___> jrib, I don't see anything, and I have an output of "mplayer out.ogg"
[15:23] <jrib> suxxor: don't list packages.  What version of ubuntu?
[15:23] <lee___> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59368/
[15:23] <jrib> lee___: pastebin
[15:23] <ItchyHobo> Jaapjan2, what is the difference between .bash_login and using sessions is sessions a gui for modifying .bash_login?
[15:23] <AudioSenseCD> Jack_Sparrow:wohaaa thx alot jack hope dat more peeps u can help
[15:24] <suxxor> ok thx
[15:24] <Jaapjan2> ItchyHobo: No, the sessions is for gnome only as far as I know.
[15:24] <AudioSenseCD> suxxor: u too thx to all of you guysss
[15:24] <jrib> suxxor: that last statement was not for you, sorry
[15:24] <jrib> init6: don't list packages.  What version of ubuntu?
[15:24] <lee___> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59368/
[15:25] <init6> jrib, 6.06 (as stated above).
[15:25] <ItchyHobo> Jaapjan2, ahan, thanks, so i guess ,bash_login is doesn't care whether u r running kde or gnome
[15:25] <Jaapjan2> ItchyHobo: It cares about running bash :D
[15:25] <jrib> init6: yeah no autoremove then.  Do 'dpkg -S /path/to/file/that/you/want/to/get/rid/of'
[15:26] <jrib> lee___: try passing  -vo x11  to mplayer
[15:26] <init6> jrib, It reports "mediawiki1.7: /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/includes/SpecialVersion.php".
[15:26] <iDN> Hey Jack_Sparrow, remember me? ;)
[15:26] <lee___> jrib: mplayer -vo x11 out.ogg?
[15:26] <lee___> Or just mplayer -vo x11?
[15:26] <jrib> init6: you need to remove that package
[15:27] <suxxor> i have another question how can i delete files through terminal
[15:27] <jrib> lee___: the former
[15:27] <suxxor> rm?
[15:27] <jrib> suxxor: rm
[15:27] <suxxor> ok
[15:27] <legend2440> aurehman_: does that mov file play?
[15:27] <jrib> !cli > suxxor (read the private message from ubotu)
[15:27] <iDN> Anyway a moue problem this time. Something I've been looking for solution for a long, long time.
[15:27] <init6> jrib, ++  Thank you.  I was trying to remove the same packages that I installed "mediawiki mediawik-math".  I didn't realize I had to remove a different package.
[15:27] <lee___> jrib: Wtf it worked :<
[15:28] <terminal> suxxor, rm -r file name
[15:28] <jrib> init6: yeah, what happens is mediawiki will install the other packages as dependencies.  But apt-get does not keep track of this.  So when you remove mediawiki, it won't worry about the dependencies
[15:28] <bod_> lee___, family friendly on the abreviations plz
[15:28] <suxxor> what`s comand to rename files?
[15:28] <jrib> lee___: what video card?
[15:28] <mojo> my USB flash drive is mounting as read-only....  how do i get it to be read/write again?  it _used_ to work fine... ?!?
[15:28] <jrib> suxxor: read the link I gave you please
[15:28] <lee___> jrib: Er, no idea.
[15:28] <mojo> gutsy amd64
[15:28] <init6> jrib, Thanks for your help!
[15:29] <Oberon> Hi, i'm on Ubuntu 7.04 and have trouble installing pam_abl
[15:29]  * lee___ hugs jrib
[15:29] <jrib> init6: if you use aptitude to install packages and then use aptitude to remove them, it will remember these things and handle it for you
[15:29] <Jaapjan2> Oberon: What is your trouble?
[15:29] <iDN> Over a year ago I bought a laser mouse, Logitech MX400. From day one I've noticed that in games, such as ET, the mouse is erratic while moved fast. For example, while moving the mouse sharply left, it moves left a bit and then go wildly and erratically to other side. Anyone had this problem or somehow know how to solve it? Thank you.
[15:29] <methods> is there a sound daemon in ubunt ?
[15:29] <kthakore> Oberon, what is pam_abl also what method are u using
[15:29] <init6> jrib, okay.  I will make a note to look into that tool.
[15:29] <lee___> jrib: How can I check my video card?
[15:29] <colourAgga> iDN: what surface is it on?
[15:29] <kthakore> Oberon, and is there a link?
[15:30] <jrib> !aptitude > init6 (read the private message from ubotu)
[15:30] <Oberon> well there its not there in the repository so am trying to compile from source buw having trouble with it
[15:30] <jrib> lee___: lspci | grep -i vga
[15:30] <iDN> A brown wooden one, colourAgga.
[15:30] <lee___> jrib: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[15:31] <Oberon> kthakore, Jaapjan2: this is the link i used initially but its the package for edgy - http://www.terminal23.net/2007/08/installing_ssh_on_ubuntu_704_f.html
[15:31] <Jaapjan2> Oberon: Have you installed all the build-essential etc, .. ?
[15:31] <Oberon> Jaapjan2, let me check
[15:31] <iDN> Wait, is it possible that the fact it's shiny (a bit) interrupts the mouse, colourAgga?
[15:31] <dare_fee1> hello, I'm using 7.10 with all updates, i have problems with suspend and hibernate since i installed the ati 8.443 fglrx, are there any known issues?
[15:32] <iDN> I remember reading something about it somewhere, colourAgga.
[15:32] <Oberon> No I haven't, how silly of me
[15:32] <Oberon> thanks Jaapjan2
[15:32] <lee___> iDN, try a mousepad.
[15:32] <Jaapjan2> Oberon: You're welcome.
[15:32] <kthakore> Oberon, also what errors do u get when u do make install
[15:32] <artenius> !dvd
[15:32] <ubot3> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[15:32] <bod_> iDN, its possible that shiny surfaces can *confuse* optical mouse's
[15:33] <lee___> jrib?
[15:33] <jrib> lee___: unfortunately, I'm not sure what to do with intel cards.  You could just make x11 the default if you don't care.  The usual default is 'xv'
[15:33] <Oberon> kthakore, you mind PM? its a long list of errors
[15:33] <iDN> lee___: I took a large piece of white paper and moved the mouse in the same why I do in ET, and the result was the same.
[15:33] <[agatha]> hi, i'm having a bit of a trouble to install ubuntu in my lappy, when the partition tool starts all freezes... yet the dvd has no errors on it so i dunno what may be happening
[15:33] <Jafet> "mice"
[15:33] <kthakore> Oberon please use pastebin
[15:33] <iDN> bod_: Confuse? What do you mean?
[15:33] <bod_> !paste | Oberon
[15:33] <ubot3> Oberon: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[15:33] <lee___> jrib, I asked that a long while back. :P How would I do that, and would it work for all players?
[15:33] <jrib> lee___: possible bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/38939
[15:33] <Oberon> okay
[15:33] <ubot3> Malone bug 38939 in xorg-server "MPlayer receives BadAlloc when playing very large movies using Xv" [Medium,Confirmed]
[15:34] <lee___> How can I make x11 default jrib?
[15:34] <zoomboot8> dare_fee1: 8.443?
[15:34] <Jaapjan2> Oberon: And try compiling when you have build-essential installed first.
[15:34] <dare_fee1> zoomboot8: ah, one moment, i'll check again
[15:34] <Oberon> Yes it gives the same errors even after installing build-essential
[15:34] <bod_> iDN, optical mouse's work with a red light detecting changes on the surface their on, if it was placed on a shiny surface with alot of light the mouse would see the shadows and reflections from different places causing erratic behaviour
[15:35] <kr0ss> :o
[15:35] <Oberon> kthakore, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59383/
[15:35] <genii> dare_fee1: This is a known issue with the ati drivers, no solution yet. Some info here on it http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-598382.html
[15:35] <jrib> lee___: for mplayer, you just add "vo=x11" without quotes. to ~/.mplayer/config (create this file if it does not exist).  From the bug report, you can try '-vo gl' instead of x11 and compare to see which one works better
[15:35] <iDN> bod_: It's a laser mouse. Isn't it supposed to be a lot more accurate? :O
[15:35] <dare_fee1>  zoomboot8: no i'll mixed up the versions, correct is 8.471
[15:35] <bod_> iDN, its still light ;~)
[15:36] <jrib> lee___: 'gstreamer-properties' may help if you have issues with other players
[15:36] <gan>  i compiled a kernel , the aufs compiled for this not loading perfectly with kernel why?
[15:36] <gan>  i compiled a kernel , the aufs compiled for this not loaded perfectly with kernel why?
[15:36] <Jaapjan2> Oberon: Pam development libraries needed, perhaps?
[15:36] <Lartza_> Can I exclude packages from my ubuntu installation in LiveCD? (Like that openoffice won't be installed)
[15:36] <iDN> Oh, I see, bod_. So what you're suggesting is that I should buy a mousepad?
[15:36] <lee___> jrib, it's crashed vlc, totem, mplayer without -vo x11, and other stuff
[15:36] <artenius> Can anyone tell me why this happens? :   sudo: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh: command not found
[15:36] <dare_fee1> genii: I had the problem that a previous version had a bug with SLUB
[15:36] <zoomboot8> dare_fee1: what genii said
[15:36] <Oberon> Jaapjan2, let me have a look
[15:36] <lee___> jrib: IE, I can't play it in firefox, but other people can
[15:36] <bod_> iDN, yer, or use a matt coloured book,.something very *non-shiny*
[15:37] <Lartza_> Can I exclude packages from my ubuntu installation in LiveCD? (Example: openoffice or flightgear won't be installed)
[15:37] <Jaapjan2> iDN: I have a G5 laser mouse, it doesn't work on a black matt ice-matt either.
[15:37] <iDN> Can I make a little experiment first? Something like taking some sort of a different, dark, non-shiny  surface and test the mouse on it?
[15:37] <zoomboot8> dare_fee1: another good place to check up on the ati drivers is here: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8204&page=2
[15:37] <Oberon> Jaapjan2, so libpam0g-dev ? or another one
[15:37] <jrib> lee___: if changing the gstreamer-properties preferences to use "no xv" does not resolve it, one solution would be to use the mplayer plugin in firefox and ensure that uses x11 as well
[15:37] <iDN> Jaapjan2: So what did you do?
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Lartza_, You will need the alternate cd for that
[15:38] <lee___> How do I change that jrib?
[15:38] <bod_> iDN, its your mouse,. experiment, move speakers around change ur table have fun ;~)
[15:38] <Jaapjan2> iDN: Trashed the ice-matt and used it straight on the desk surface. Works great and no edged to run off.
[15:38] <Lartza_> Jack_Sparro: You can't do nothing with the LiveCD!
[15:38] <jrib> lee___: which part exactly (I made more than one suggestion)
[15:38] <lee___> Nevermind, wish me luck jrib :<
[15:38] <iDN> Jaapjan2: LOL, that's what I'm doing now and it
[15:38] <bod_> Lartza_, i know theres loadsa stuff on their ;~)     (double negatives are not your forte)
[15:38] <iDN> it's causing the problem. :)
[15:38] <Lartza_> Jack_Sparrow: It's not your fault. Is alternate cd bigger than the live.
[15:39] <iDN> Anyway, thank you all, I'll just buy a decent mousepad. :)
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Lartza_, get the minimal and add as needed.
[15:39] <bod_> or a decent mouse
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !minimal | Lartza_
[15:39] <ubot3> Lartza_: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[15:39] <Crusader_Tech> Hello Everyone.  Yet another question, and thank you ahead of time for all the ones you've helped with before.
[15:39] <Jaapjan2> Oberon: Done a ./configure first?
[15:39] <Crusader_Tech>  I've just installed clamav, but I'm being told that I need root permissions to update dats.  Any easy way to do that?
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !sudo | Crusader_Tech
[15:39] <ubot3> Crusader_Tech: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[15:40] <lee___> jrib, I changed gstreamer-properties to no xv, It still doesn't play in firefox and crashed mplayer without the -vo x11
[15:40] <gan>  i compiled a kernel , the aufs compiled for this not loaded perfectly with kernel why?
[15:40] <Oberon> Jaapjan2, there is no such file so didn't try it
[15:40] <Crusader_Tech> so i can somehow set clamav up to run with !sudo automatically when I click the icon to start the program?
[15:40] <Jaapjan2> Ah, alright. Here, I'll try it on my own system. A moment.
[15:40] <dare_fee1> zoomboot8: i read the thread, the last post explaines my situation: waited for the driver that should fix the hibernate/suspend - problem.. and its still not working
[15:41] <lunaphyte_> how do i mount a filesystem that's on a volume group if something happened to the volume group and it's "not there" anymore?
[15:41] <dare_fee1> zoomboot8: went thru severeal howtos, (thinkwiki etc) to get it working, but no success
[15:41] <lee___> jrib?
[15:42] <Juhaz> maybe 400 is a bad luck number at logitech, V400 was a horrid piece of junk too.
[15:42] <bod_> Crusader_Tech, the command from terminal would be     sudo clamav       you could change the loauncher by right-click--properties, launcher tab, and adding    sudo   to the front of the command
[15:42] <jrib> lee___: use mplayer-plugin then
[15:42] <lee___> jrib: Hows?
[15:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Crusader_Tech, you can make a launcher, but you would still need to enter a password
[15:42] <lee___> And how do I change it so mplayer uses x11 automagically?
[15:42] <jrib> lee___: for mplayer, you just add "vo=x11" without quotes to ~/.mplayer/config (create this file if it does not exist).  From the bug report, you can try '-vo gl' instead of x11 and compare to see which one works better
[15:43] <suxxor> how can allow permission to lampp in directory /opt/lampp/htdocs to copy,delete,rename,save files
[15:43] <bod_> suxxor,    sudo chmod +w
[15:43] <bod_> i think
[15:44] <lee___> jrib: How do I make firefox use it?
[15:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Crusader_Tech, I take it you are scanning programs before passing them to WIndows users?
[15:44] <jrib> lee___: uninstall your current plugin (totem-mozilla by default) and install mozilla-mplayer
[15:44] <zoomboot8> dare_fee1: the version of ubuntu 8.04 (which will be released in april) might have the open source "radeonhd" driver. No 3d support if you use it, but the hibernate/suspend might work better
[15:45] <suxxor>  sudo chmod +w /opt/lampp/htdocs?
[15:45] <bod_> i think not certain
[15:45] <ghostlines> can anyone help me make a ssh tunnel to my server so i can play tce-elite from school?
[15:45] <bod_> should add write permissions
[15:45] <Crusader_Tech> Jack, I'm looking to be able to run clam by just clicking an icon.  I dont mind being prompted for a password
[15:45] <legend2440> aurehman_: does that mov file play?
[15:46] <lunaphyte_> why might lvm volume groups disappear when upgrading from 6.1 to 7.0.4 using do-release-upgrade?
[15:46] <bod_> Crusader_Tech, best to use the whole nick of the person your addressing ,.,. tab completion is your friend
[15:46] <dare_fee1> zoomboot8: is this version already accessible via synaptics?
[15:46] <suxxor> how to add this permission?
[15:46] <jrib> lee___: i'll be back in 15 minutes
[15:46] <suxxor> write permissions
[15:46] <Crusader_Tech> And I'm planning on using it as a secondary AV to double check AVG, which we use sitewide
[15:46] <lee___> jrib: Thanks, now it plays in firefox
[15:46] <lee___> jrib: WHy won't totem play it? :S
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Crusader_Tech, May I assume Gutsy and Gnome Desktop
[15:46] <lost4ever> hi
[15:47] <aurehman_> lee___: ?
[15:47] <Crusader_Tech> Jack_Sparrow: 7.10, default gnome, yes.
[15:47] <lost4ever> how can I configure grub?
[15:47] <bod_> if ubuntu is released every six months how can there be a 6.1 and 7.4?
[15:47] <Crusader_Tech> Jack_Sparrow: I just installed clamav from add/remove
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Crusader_Tech, right click desktop .. create launcher  add sudo infront of the command used for clamav
[15:47] <tmadsen> lost4ever: I'm pretty sure the configuration files is /etc/grub
[15:48] <suxxor> sh how to allow permissions in that directory sudo chmod +w /opt/lampp/htdocs don`t work
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> lost4ever, /bot/grub/menu.lst
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> boot
[15:49] <lee___> As in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:49] <tmadsen> lost4ever: yeah, what Jack_Sparrow said, I'm sorry
[15:49] <bod_> oh its 6.10
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> lost4ever, from gui tyep gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Darn I cant type today
[15:49] <maxb> Are there any tools for helping tidy up obsolete confffiles?
[15:49] <zoomboot8> dare_fee1: well, the current version of ubuntu (gutsy, 7.10) does have it..... but it is a really early alpha version. You can see the versions of the package here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd
[15:49] <Jaapjan2> Oberon: Got it compiling.
[15:49] <bod_> !eol
[15:49] <ubot3> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[15:49] <Oberon> Jaapjan2, what might I be doing wrong?
[15:49] <epic4life> Question, can ubuntu server be fitted with compiz-fusion? if so what is the protcol to make this happen....not using this for the server, but just to show a friend real fast
[15:50] <Jaapjan2> Oberon: I'll open a private chat for a moment.
[15:50] <dare_fee1> zoomboot8: thx, i'll give it a try
[15:50] <Crusader_Tech> Jack_Sparrow: the command is currently this clamtk %F.  you're saying make it sudo clamtk %F?
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> epic4life, /join #Compiz and ask.. but I doubt it...
[15:50] <epic4life> thanks jack
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Crusader_Tech, yes
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> epic4life, np
[15:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Crusader_Tech, if that is a gui front end make it gksudo
[15:51] <ramiel77> hey, i plugged my laptop running 7.10 into a monitor port and enabled a secondary screen, the computer told me to log out and when i logged out, instead of showing the login screen it says *Starting anac(h)ronistic cron arancron *Starting deffed execution scheduler crond *Checking battery state... *Running local boot scripts    I was wondering if there was anyway i can change the monitor preferences from safe mode command line
[15:51] <zoomboot8> dare_fee1: well, good luck! I wasn't planning on using radeonhd till april...
[15:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Crusader_Tech, Sorry, but I dont use clam or I would know
[15:51] <Blastur> hello, how can I disconnect my WLAN? I have currently set it up to a certain AP, and I wish to break this association, while not disabling WLAN in all.. how can I do it?
[15:52] <bod_> what was the codename for 6.0.4? between breezy and edgy?
[15:52] <Crusader_Tech> Jack_Sparrow: no problem.  I appreciate the patience.
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> 6.06 was daper I thinkl
[15:52] <bod_> oh
[15:52] <zoomboot8> bod: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[15:52] <jourdan> dapper drake
[15:52] <mitesh> login problem, doesn't accept user name
[15:52] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, why was it 2 motnhs late?
[15:52] <Oberon> Okay Jaapjan2, i'll wait for the PM
[15:52] <legend2440> aurehman_: does that mov file play?
[15:52] <bod_> zoomboot8, ty
[15:53] <Jaapjan2> Oberon: It ought be open already.
[15:53] <jourdan> they made it LTS
[15:53] <Crusader_Tech> Jack_Sparrow: It's working like a champ now.  Thanks Jack.  I understand Linux doesn't have the virus problems Windows does.  But I always like to have a secondary way to can for virii, and this seemed like a good one.
[15:53] <bod_> !register | Jaapjan2, Oberon
[15:53] <ubot3> Jaapjan2, Oberon: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[15:53] <nepbabu> !ask  | mitesh
[15:53] <ubot3> mitesh: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_, My guess would be the lts.. it is/was very stable
[15:53] <Jaapjan2> I'll use pastebin then.
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Crusader_Tech, np glad to help.. welcome to Ubuntu
[15:53] <Oberon> Okay
[15:54] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, ok, ty,.,. how did edgy compare then,. seeming as it took only 4 motnhs to develope?
[15:54] <Crusader_Tech> Jack_Sparrow: I have to admit also, I'm a big music buff.  Now that I can buy DRM free music from amazonmp3.com, and i'm not tied to iTunes, it's yet another reason I dont need windows.
[15:54] <Jaapjan2> Oberon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59385/
[15:54] <bod_> Crusader_Tech, your gonna buy free music?
[15:54] <JarG0n> Is there any help available for the Ubuntu Keyring Manager 2.20.0 ?
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Crusader_Tech, I saw a pree converter for Itunes drm so they woould play on anything
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> free
[15:55] <Crusader_Tech> bod_: haha, no the music isn't free.  It's free from DRM, Digital Rights Management.
[15:55] <lost4ever> can I let grub configure it self?
[15:55] <ramiel77> does anyone know where screen preferences are stored on 7.10?
[15:55] <cnDiehard> anybody knows how to print pdf files in Ubuntu?
[15:55] <bod_> Crusader_Tech, oh rite,. that makes alot more sense,. but i suppose you dont agree with the whole p2p downloading thing?
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> lost4ever, You can try.. do you have one hard drive or more
[15:56] <polter> eMusic is the best for DRM-free mp3's in my opinion
[15:56] <s0u][ight> is it normal that to make my keyboard and touchpad working i have to use the noacpi boot parameter and sometims not
[15:56] <lost4ever> more
[15:56] <Jupp> cnDiehard, which program are you using to view your pdfs?
[15:56] <Crusader_Tech> bod_: I used to p2p all the time.  Yea the lawsuits ran me off.  3 kids, wife, and a mortgage.  I can't afford a lawsuit.  But I also dont blame the artist for wanting to get paid for what they do.
 I have more
[15:56] <Jack_Sparrow> lost4ever, that is where it gets tricky
 that's right
[15:57] <nepbabu> mitesh, so you can't boot?
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> lost4ever, adding external drives gets even trickier
[15:57] <cnDiehard> Jupp, I'm using evince
[15:57] <nepbabu> mitesh, you can't boot ubuntu or what?
[15:57] <Crusader_Tech> bod_: My only complaint with iTunes was the DRM.  That and It was holding up my giving Linux a fair shake.
[15:57] <bod_> Crusader_Tech, im the kinda person who thinks they make so much money there not loosing too much,. so im all groovy with it,. and noones been busted in this country afaik,.,. but at least youve got your priorities straight ;~)
[15:57] <cnDiehard> It only print the first page for a 5-page pdf file
[15:58] <cnDiehard> network printer
[15:58] <gan>  i compiled a kernel , the aufs compiled for this not loaded perfectly with kernel why?
[15:58] <Oberon> ah right, now it works. Must have been the libdb4.4-dev package which i didn't have installed. Thanks a lot Jaapjan2
[15:58] <mitesh> nepbabu: yes
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> lost4ever, Paste this into term and run it..  sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cp /etc/fstab ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && sudo fdisk -l >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && cat /home/$USER/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt | pastebinit
 I have 3 hard drive inside
[15:58] <Jaapjan2> Oberon: You're welcome ... and on your own now. I am off.
[15:58] <Oberon> Okay, thanks :)
[15:58] <polter> Crusader_Tech, you didn't have a problem with it being a clunky piece of shit? :)
[15:58] <Oberon> Bye
[15:58] <Chousuke> Jack_Sparrow: useless use of cat ;)
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> polter, Please watch the language
[15:58] <mitesh> unable to boot ubuntu
[15:58] <bod_> omg! ot is silent
[15:58] <polter> Jack_Sparrow, fine
[15:59] <Crusader_Tech> polter: well yea, it's not exactly snappy.  Not my favorite app.  Sluggish on my duel core 3 gig ram box.
[15:59] <Chousuke> Jack_Sparrow: cat foo | bar == bar < foo
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Chousuke, Please feel free to clean that up and pass it back
[15:59] <polter> Crusader_Tech, yeah that was my impression too back when I tried it out
[15:59] <Crusader_Tech> bod_: Yea, they're filthy stinking rich, but who's do say that doesn't entitle them to make money off of their hard work if people are willing to pay for it.
[15:59] <renfrew> anyone remember the CLI to update application menus?  File-roller and a bunch of other stuff aren't showing up *shrug*
[15:59] <Jupp> cnDiehard, does it only happen when you print pdfs?
[15:59] <bod_> Crusader_Tech, thats the point, im not willing to pay for it ;~)
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Crusader_Tech, You are drifting off the topic of support..  :) we have offtopic for that
[16:00] <Servl> joz
[16:00] <Crusader_Tech> Jack_Sparrow: sorry.  they got me going in a conversation. :-)
[16:00] <bod_> ;~)
[16:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Crusader_Tech, I had to point a finger at someone.. I have poked bod enough he should be black and blue by now
[16:01] <lost4ever> I got this message (cp: cannot create regular file `/root/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt': No such file or directory
[16:01] <lost4ever> )
[16:02]  * bod_ ensures he means poke in a non-literal way ;~)
[16:02] <Jack_Sparrow> lost4ever, let me look at where it got /root
[16:02]  * bod_ reminds Jack_Sparrow  that the lawsuit is on the way ...;~)
[16:02] <Crusader_Tech> Jack_Sparrow: haha, no problem.  You've been extremely helpful to me in dipping my toes into the world of Linux, and i'm sure i'll have more questions to send your way.  Least I can do is respect you.
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_, Hope your widow spends the money wisely
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Crusader_Tech, we try to keep it friendly and ontopic
[16:03] <lost4ever> before Desktop :S
[16:03] <bod_> thats why Jack_Sparrow threatens me,.,.haha,.,. ;~)
[16:03] <Crusader_Tech> Jack_Sparrow: You're doing great.  Thanks again and keep up the good work.  We all appreciate it.
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[16:04] <artenius> so I take it DVDs do not actually work in ubuntu. I followed that guide exactly and the most I can get is a 20 second intro to the DVD, then nothing.
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> lost4ever, I see that but did you edit that line or that is what came back when you pasted it
[16:04] <bod_> !helpercookie
[16:04] <ubot3> Factoid helpercookie not found
[16:04] <bod_> damn
[16:04] <polter> artenius, dvd's work perfectly for me
[16:04] <zoomboot8> artenius: what guide?
[16:04] <artenius> !dvd
[16:04] <ubot3> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> artenius, dvd's work fine here.
[16:04] <artenius> that guide
[16:04] <Jupp> artenius, dvds work fine
[16:05] <lost4ever> I but my name before Desktop
[16:05] <bod_> !helpersnack | Jack_Sparrow      :that one,. i hate factoids
[16:05] <ubot3> Jack_Sparrow      :that one,. i hate factoids: Wow!  Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[16:05] <idefix_> hi, I pasted my error to: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59386/ it occurs when I try to run kformula, can anyone help?
[16:05] <bod_> hey, it worked in the end ;~)
[16:05] <artenius> totem will only play the intro to the dvd, I have no control to actually start the movie or menu
[16:05] <Jack_Sparrow> lost4ever, You should not have had to edit that line to get it to work
[16:06] <bod_> artenius, that happened to me, i use vlc now
[16:06] <zoomboot8> artenius: try vlc
[16:06] <idefix_> help ooffice
[16:06] <artenius> ok
[16:06] <bod_> ;~)
[16:06] <s0u][ight> vlc rox
[16:06] <idefix_> ooffice!
[16:06] <idefix_> !ooffice
[16:06] <ubot3> Factoid ooffice not found
[16:06] <idefix_> !office
[16:06] <ubot3> Factoid office not found
[16:06] <polter> !openoffice
[16:06] <ubot3> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[16:06] <DG19075> VLC is great
[16:06] <polter> :)
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> lost4ever, I know I piece'd that together from notes.. and looks klunky...  but it should work as written
[16:07] <artenius> just vlc, or is there any special codecs I need? I'm using synaptic pm
[16:07] <polter> artenius, libdvdcss2 and libdvdread
[16:07] <dmacnutt> !openswan
[16:07] <ubot3> openswan: IPSEC utilities for Openswan. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.4.6+dfsg.2-1.1build2 (gutsy), package size 1646 kB, installed size 5808 kB
[16:07] <MAXDDARK> hi
[16:07] <bod_> VLC has a reall really bad media library design,.,. (realplayer -- one of the only decent apps to come out of windows) i wish it was workable through wine
[16:07] <zoomboot8> artenius: well, the only codec for playing dvds is libdvdcss2
[16:07] <zoomboot8> i think
[16:07] <Jack_Sparrow> or css3 ?
[16:08] <zoomboot8> Jack_Sparrow ?
[16:08] <lost4ever> it's worked ;)
[16:08] <MAXDDARK> I have installed BIND9 and it "should" now serve as a caching server, but when I tray to start it - it fails , why ?
[16:08] <dmacnutt> MAXDDARK: look at syslog
[16:08] <Jack_Sparrow> lost4ever, Do you have the pastebin link for me
[16:08] <cnDiehard> Jupp, seems like that
[16:09] <lost4ever> u mean u want me to send file to u?
[16:09] <idefix_> what is this man? it's like I'm in hell or something? like everybody hates me!
[16:09] <tpp> Hello. I just installed linux-backports-modules, and when i rebooted I have no sound. I can't even open volume control. I tried removing this package, but I still have no sound. Help!
[16:09] <polter> lost4ever, pastebin.com
[16:09] <lost4ever> ok
[16:09] <cnDiehard> Jupp, I have no problem to print odt file though
[16:09] <artenius> so should I just pop the DVD in, or manually open a certain file from it with vlc?
[16:09] <polter> idefix_, what?
[16:09] <artenius> if this works I'l kiss you
[16:09] <Jack_Sparrow> lost4ever, that script once run returned a link to a pastebin with the info needed by helpers to fix your problem..
[16:10] <idefix_> I just gotta get this io-slave thing worked out
[16:10] <lost4ever> I opened the site now
[16:10] <Blastur> hihhihi
[16:10] <zoomboot8> artenius: in vlc, go file>>open disc
[16:10] <artenius> zoomboot8: thanks
[16:10] <Blastur> hi, does anyone know how i can prevent ubuntu 7.10 for auto-associating with my WLAN AP? or how to release the associate (disconnect WLAN) without disabling the entire network itnerface
[16:10] <Tu13es> I copied a bunch of files from a HFS+ drive to an ext3 drive.  Everything seems okay ,but is there a way to make sure I don't have permission issues before I wipe the HFS+ drive?
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> lost4ever, Please DO NOT paste that into this channel
[16:11] <lost4ever> ok
[16:11] <Jack_Sparrow> lost4ever, Only the url/link to the pastebin
[16:11] <MAXDDARK> it says : Mar 12 18:10:54 maxim-ubuntu kernel: [201787.847080] Failure registering capabilities with primary security module.
[16:11] <lost4ever> shall I post it in that site?
[16:11] <Jack_Sparrow> arrrgh
[16:11] <Jack_Sparrow> I need a translator to splain it to lost for me
[16:11] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[16:12]  * artenius KISSES you all!
[16:12] <artenius> it works!
[16:12]  * sfears hopes artenius isn't a guy
[16:12] <Jupp> cnDiehard, I would try another pdf viewer (I haven't tried another one besides evince myself)
[16:12] <idefix_> what's the name of the office channel?
[16:12] <MAXDDARK> help ?
[16:12] <cnDiehard> Jupp, thanks a lot
[16:14] <carrera> hi
[16:14] <sfears> hello carrera
[16:14] <carrera> ubuntu 7.10 keeps crashing on my laptop
[16:14] <carrera> hi sfears
[16:14] <carrera> i'm very disapointed in ubuntu
[16:14] <ubuntufreak> I have installed KDevelop in Ubuntu 7.10 and in the Kdevelop-multilanguage the konsole is not there, how to get it
[16:14] <sfears> i'm disapointed in your laptop
[16:15] <carrera> i like everything about it, except the fact that it kills my laptop from time to time
[16:15] <gan>  i compiled a kernel , the aufs compiled for this not loaded perfectly with kernel why?
[16:15] <carrera> sfears, don't, cause Windowz seems to do ok
[16:15] <white_eagle> how can I mount an ISO image to a virtual drive in ubuntu?
[16:15] <sfears> that's because your laptop was built around windows
[16:15] <zoomboot8> carrera: is there some program in particular that crashes Ubuntu?
[16:15] <carrera> sfears, NOOO
[16:16] <carrera> sfears, Fedora 6 and 8 have no problems either
[16:16] <white_eagle> mount, not burn
[16:16] <jrib> lee___: keep yourself subscribed to that bug, that way you can monitor the monitor the progress
[16:16] <Kalamarencu> Hello which one is my SUPER key, I downloaded COmpiz Config for Ubuntu and I cannot find the SUPER key that seems to be binded for Actions
[16:16] <white_eagle> Kalamarencu: the win key
[16:16] <sfears> what crashes?
[16:16] <jrib> Kalamarencu: ususally the windows key
[16:16] <Jack_Sparrow> carrera, Is it a clean install or have you added non-supported reops and software or run scripts like automatix or envy.. both bad ideas.
[16:16] <white_eagle> Kalamarencu: its the win key on the keyboard
[16:16] <zoomboot8> Kalamarencu: super is the windoes logo key
[16:16] <Nutzebahn> Hi.
[16:16] <Kalamarencu> white_eagle, thanks... I tried it ... did not work maybe I have to restart
[16:16] <carrera> zoomboot8, at first i wasn't sure, but the last 2 times have been during compiling MySQL - after issuing make
[16:16] <Kalamarencu> thank you all
[16:17] <iRRVi> why when i add the gnome voice control applet to my panel it gives me an error (using v 0.3 of gvc)
[16:17] <Kalamarencu> I feel so end user...
[16:17] <Kalamarencu> :(
[16:17] <white_eagle> Kalamarencu: ok, join #compiz-fusion for more help on compiz
[16:17] <carrera> Jack_Sparrow, it's a clean install
[16:17] <Kalamarencu> thanks
[16:17] <Nutzebahn> Does anyone know of any firewall programs for Linux that will enable me to control which applications have internet access, sort of like ZoneAlarm?
[16:17] <Kalamarencu> will do white_eagle
[16:17] <carrera> Jack_Sparrow, i don't even know automatix or envy
[16:17] <kimmey2k3> Jack_Sparrow: what's the negative thing with using envy? doesen't it just fetch and install packages for you? :)
[16:17] <white_eagle> kimmey2k3: it installs file on your system
[16:17] <white_eagle> kimmey2k3: which location isnt quite known
[16:17] <carrera> zoomboot8, at first i wasn't sure, but the last 2 times have been during compiling MySQL - after issuing make
[16:18] <zoomboot8> carrera: wouldn't the obvious solution be to use the binaries instead of compiling them yourself?
[16:18] <white_eagle> kimmey2k3: and that is a security risk
[16:18] <carrera> zoomboot8, No, that's not what i want
[16:18] <white_eagle> how can I mount an ISO image to a virtual drive in ubuntu?
[16:18] <white_eagle> I need this!
[16:18] <carrera> zoomboot8, and what if there's another reason
[16:18] <iRRVi> white_eagle: with the mount command?
[16:18] <kimmey2k3> white_eagle: sounds weird.. it should be possible to find out where the files ends up?
[16:18] <Jack_Sparrow> kimmey2k3, They have been working to improve it.. but still not ready for end users
[16:18] <carrera> zoomboot8, thanks for your help anyway
[16:18] <kimmey2k3> Jack_Sparrow: I see :)
[16:18] <white_eagle> yeah iRRVi mount but what after mount?
[16:19]  * sfears is interested in the answer to white_eagle's question
[16:19] <dgjones> kimmey2k3, One thing Envy does is that it installs things in a non-standard way, so when the kernel gets upgraded as happens on numerous times throughout the lifecycle, you can't boot back into X and have to reinstall your graphics drivers
[16:19] <white_eagle> kimmey2k3: I think there was a page  about that
[16:19] <iRRVi> white_eagle: lemme check real quick i forget
[16:19] <kimmey2k3> white_eagle: im interested to look if you are able to provide me the url :)
[16:19] <white_eagle> kimmey2k3: yeah
[16:19] <white_eagle> kimmey2k3: I'll look for it
[16:20] <kimmey2k3> white_eagle: great! :) thanks
[16:20] <Bollinger> when will nautilus be fixed to work reliably with SSH connections?
[16:20] <iRRVi> why cant i add gnome-voice-control to the gnome panel?
[16:20] <iRRVi> i get an error >_<
[16:21] <white_eagle> wow, I'm just seeing that HP blackbird 002
[16:21] <Haza> Afternoon folks!
[16:21] <white_eagle> thats a beast
[16:21] <Haza> Im looking to create an ODBC connection to a .mdb file
[16:21] <Haza> Where should i start? is there a GUI to help me do this?
[16:21] <zoomboot8> white_eagle: there is a GUI in synatpic call "gmountiso"
[16:21] <white_eagle> zoomboot8: oh, thanks!
[16:22] <white_eagle> oh that firefox, it froze
[16:22] <Rudin_> Every time I boot  Ubuntu, or every time it awakes from a blank screen, the brightness is set to the maximum.  Where can I dim the LCD brightness in a permanent way?
[16:22] <carrera> sfears, zoomboot8, have a look at this before you hand out obvious solutions:  Sudden Ubuntu 7.10 Shutdown without notice  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/200269
[16:22] <ubot3> Malone bug 200269 in ubuntu "Sudden Ubuntu 7.10 Shutdown without notice" [Undecided,New]
[16:23] <ks> is there a difference if i have IA64 arch and use amd64 distro of ubuntu ?
[16:23] <sfears> 1.1 kilowatt power plant?? WTF??
[16:24] <iRRVi> when i try to add gnome-voice-control applet to the panel i get an error saying do i want to delete the applet from the config...using v 0.3 of gvc, and 7.10 of ubuntu
[16:24] <Nutzebahn> Does anyone know of any firewall programs for Linux that will enable me to control which applications have internet access, sort of like ZoneAlarm?
[16:24] <zoomboot8> carrera: the thing is, that report gives no information about the circumstances. I am using the same ubuntu, and the same browser, with no problems whatsoever
[16:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Nutzebahn, Firestarter
[16:24] <sfears> carrera.. is your computer overheating?
[16:25] <sfears> make uses 100% resources causing it to run really hot
[16:25] <INFURNO_> Hey all, im using a ubuntu install as a server with vnc to operate. It has no monitor connected. I need to increase my resolution, how do I do this when the only option is 640x480 and there is no physical monitor to configure in xorg
[16:25] <carrera> zoomboot8, ubuntu did shut down on me when i was using only Firefox too
[16:25] <carrera> sfears, no, not at all
[16:25] <sfears> unexpected complete shutdowns are sometimes caused by thermal protection
[16:26] <Nutzebahn> Jack_Sparrow: Firestarter doesn't allow me to set which programs are allowed to access the internet. Help?
[16:26] <carrera> sfears, it has never suddenly shut down under XP or Fedora
[16:26] <zoomboot8> carrera: were you viewing a page with flash? flash tends to make the computer run very hot
[16:26] <iRRVi> i cant get gnome-voice-control to the panel...any ideas?
[16:26] <sfears> they use power management differently
[16:26] <leagris> Anyone using Orca? I have it hang while trying to display the magnifying window (compiz disabled).
[16:26] <RobF_> CarreraYou could take out your cpu.. clean off the the heatsink paste. apply new paste replace cpu... its worked for me before
[16:26]  * sfears is not using Orca
[16:26] <iRRVi> hurm....i see
[16:26] <carrera> zoomboot8, sfears, my spins faster when the CPU temp goes up
[16:26] <RobF_> assuming you want to play around with your hardware
[16:27] <zoomboot8> carrera: ubuntu saves electricity. While fedora just turns on your fan, ubuntu is programmed to immediately cut the power, thus saving you precious energy.
[16:27] <sfears> overheating was just an idea
[16:27] <carrera> thanks RobF_
[16:27] <sfears> it used to happen on my old laptop all the time
[16:28] <carrera> sfears, sudden shutdowns?
[16:28] <carrera> zoomboot8, but my fans seen to run at the same speed as XP
[16:28] <sfears> yeah.. it was overheating
[16:29] <mouseclone> I have a hardware question.  I'm looking at building a new pc for 8.04.  I'm looking at the AMD Phenom 9500 setup.  I'm wondering if Ubuntu 64 will take advantage of the proc?  Also should I go nVidia or ATI? I know that nVidia is closed source drivers and ATI is open, any recomendations?
[16:29] <sfears> if i lifted it off the table allowing for extra cooling i didn't have a problem at all
[16:29] <ubot3> mouseclone: Error: Could not parse XML returned by Ubuntu: not well-formed (invalid token): line 384, column 84
[16:29] <carrera> zoomboot8, my fans speed up when i'm loading a page on XP and they were going faster when i was compiling
[16:29] <sfears> sounds like overheat to me
[16:29] <ubuntufreak> I have installed KDevelop in Ubuntu 7.10 and in the Kdevelop-multilanguage the konsole is not there, how to get it
[16:30] <theysza> Hi
[16:30] <Jack_Sparrow> mouseclone, Ask in #Ubuntu+1 but avoid ati.. they are not really open source yet inspite of their clains
[16:30] <zoomboot8> carrera: yeah, but XP lacks the cool feature of turning off without warning, doesn't it? See, we put extra work into Ubuntu to give you extra surprises like that, and it's environmentally friendly!
[16:30] <Jack_Sparrow> claims
[16:30] <Nutzebahn> Does anyone know of any firewall programs for Linux that will enable me to control which applications have internet access, sort of like ZoneAlarm?
[16:30] <Strawberryjam> can i install alsa in any order? i am at 1.0.14, can i install 1.0.15rc directly or do i need 1.0.15, 1.0.15rc1, 15rc2 etc.?
[16:30] <frank_> mouseclone: ati has released the specs of their new cards but nvidia's drivers are still better for the time being
[16:30] <carrera> sfears, i always have an old CD under the back feet of my laptop
[16:30] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntufreak, You may have better luck in #Kubuntu
[16:31] <carrera> zoomboot8, :)
[16:31] <carrera> zoomboot8, are u one of the devs?
[16:31] <feysalus> can I upgrade from ubuntu 6 --> gutsy ?
[16:31] <RobF_> Carrera, processor overheating is normally caused by either. Dirty heat sink (clean out dust) loose heatsink(replase heatsink past and make sure heatsink is attached properly) or overclocking (overclock less)
[16:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Nutzebahn, Are you familiar with how iptables work under linux and why in most cases a "Firewall" aka iptable manager is not needed
[16:32] <carrera> RobF_, i'm not overclocking
[16:32] <zoomboot8> carrera: They call me a dev on the page, and send me extra cds... But in reality I only filed 2 or 3 bug reports...
[16:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !upgrade | feysalus
[16:32] <ubot3> feysalus: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[16:32] <mouseclone> thx for the info
[16:32] <sfears> well if you'd like to 100% troubleshoot the possibility.. i know it's kinda dirty.. get a fan, (make sure it's not laying flat on the carpet) set your laptop on top of it & try to reproduce the problem
[16:32] <mouseclone> I will check with ubuntu+1
[16:32] <jester7> feysalus: i think it's recommended you upgrade through all of the versions one at a time
[16:32] <carrera> zoomboot8, don't tell me u work for Bell Canada?
[16:32] <frank_> feysalus: you can only upgrade from one version to the next. the only exception is that 6.06 -> 8.04 will be a direct upgrade
[16:33] <feysalus> cool
[16:33] <zoomboot8> carrera: HAH! What makes you think that, my ip address? It's my ISP.
[16:33] <Strawberryjam> how do i remove alsa?
[16:33] <ubuntufreak> Jack_Sparrow:trying there too
[16:33] <natbet> I have problems if more than one program wants to use sound, is there a way to fix this? I know there is a way to see what all is using /dev/dsp, does anyone know how to do that?
[16:33] <feysalus> thanks for the ifo
[16:33] <carrera> sfears, thanks sfears. That sounds like an idea
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> feysalus, Since this will be the first lts to lts upgrade... we are hopeful it works well
[16:33] <carrera> zoomboot8, yea, cause i worked for Telus for 5 years
[16:34] <Strawberryjam> ok later
[16:34] <Nutzebahn> Jack_Sparrow: No. So how do I prevent a certain application from accessing the internet with the firewall?
[16:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Nutzebahn, What program are you trying to block.. and please dont say xxx under wine
[16:34] <zoomboot8> carrera: you in Iran?
[16:35] <carrera> zoomboot8, i am right now, but i'll be going back to Vancouver on the 24th
[16:36] <Nutzebahn> Jack_Sparrow: I am not trying to block one now, but, I will at some point, how would I? Not wine programs.
[16:36] <zoomboot8> carrera: dammit, I want to go to Vancouver! I think I'll be stuck in Ontario forever.
[16:36] <tritium> zoomboot8, carrera: please stay on topic
[16:36] <zoomboot8> lol
[16:37] <carrera> sfears, how about putting my vacuum cleaners pipe next to the main exhust ?
[16:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Nutzebahn, Not sure but I would think it can be done under groups and permissions...  It just doesnt come up as an issue in here.
[16:37] <carrera> sorry tritium
[16:38] <Nutzebahn> Jack_Sparrow: Where is groups and permissions?
[16:38] <sfears> i don't think that would work as good carrera.. that pulling heat after it's exhausted.. you need to use your entire lappy as a heat sink
[16:38] <tritium> carrera: no worries
[16:39] <feysalus> does ubuntu 6.06 still receive updates?
[16:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Nutzebahn, Let me link a tutorial in Ubuntu that may help..
[16:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !training
[16:39] <ubot3> A desktop course manual for Ubuntu 7.10 can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training
[16:39] <feysalus> (are the packages in the repos up to date)
[16:39] <carrera> tritium, you're a nice guy. Are u a moderator?
[16:39] <sfears> if you could create a suction over the entire bottom of your case it would work.. but then you'd have to create some kind of baffel to funnel the air
[16:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !eol
[16:39] <ubot3> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[16:39] <Nutzebahn> Thank you.
[16:39] <tritium> carrera: thanks.  Yes, I am.  You're a nice guy too.
[16:39] <zoomboot8> tritium, carrera, please stay on topic!
[16:39] <Jack_Sparrow> tritium, Any suggestions on how he can lock down a specific program from accessing the web
[16:39] <carrera> oh, shutup zoomboot8 !
[16:39] <zoomboot8> haha
[16:40] <tritium> Jack_Sparrow: sorry, I wasn't following, but not of hand, no.
[16:40] <tritium> s/of/off
[16:40] <v3ctor> Jack_Sparrow: he could block based on the port the app uses
[16:41] <Jack_Sparrow> tritium, My only though was priv. of the users able to access it
[16:41] <tritium> zoomboot8: :)
[16:41] <Jack_Sparrow> v3ctor, Understood.. but that was not his question..
[16:41] <carrera> i'm starting to like this room
[16:41] <tritium> Jack_Sparrow: I'll read some scroll back, and think about it.
[16:41] <DeTeReR> Hi, thinking about changing my mum's computer to run linux, not windows so it can be faster and have a nice clean install. I haven't really used linux before. She does all the normal stuff, + will want to access shared files on other windows machines on the network and print on their printers. I've been told Ubuntu is a good first distro. Is this true, also should I go for straight ubuntu, or a derivative?
[16:41] <sfears> there's a lot here to like carrera
[16:41] <carrera> i just hope ubuntu didn't keep killing my laptop! :(
[16:42] <carrera> just a question: how do u guys keep up with the fast pace?
[16:42] <tritium> carrera: killing your laptop?  how?
[16:42] <zoomboot8> DeTeReR: I have done the same thing for my mom, with Ubuntu, so I'd totally recommend it
[16:42] <sfears> so let's say i have a completely legit iso image of a dvd mounted with gmountiso.. what movie player can i use to watch it with audio?
[16:42] <Jack_Sparrow> carrera, this is nothing.. wait until it gets busy
[16:42] <sfears> haha
[16:42] <DeTeReR> Zoom: straight version, not X or K?
[16:42] <sfears> nevermind.. i just didn't have the volume turned up in totem
[16:42] <carrera> tritium, exactly the same as this:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/200269   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/200269
[16:42] <ubot3> Malone bug 200269 in ubuntu "Sudden Ubuntu 7.10 Shutdown without notice" [Undecided,New]
[16:42] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[16:42] <frank_> DeTeReR: learn to use ubuntu yourself before installing it on your mom's computer.
[16:43] <zoomboot8> ubuntu Dapper did kill my DVD drive when i tried to burn an ISO.... luckily dell mailed me a new drive....
[16:43] <zoomboot8> so it is a capable killer
[16:43] <fbc> if I installed proftpd do I need to add root to a group to be able to login? http://pastebin.ca/939828
[16:43] <noodlesgc> is there an irc channel for nicotine+ ?
[16:43] <tritium> carrera: have you looked at any logs?
[16:44] <DeTeReR> I will dual boot it with windows so I can still game on it easily, but I don't want to have to install multiple OSs just to try them out
[16:44] <zoomboot8> DeTeReR: yeah, the straight version
[16:44] <tritium> zoomboot8: it can't kill a DVD drive.
[16:44] <zoomboot8> tritium: it did
[16:44] <Jack_Sparrow> carrera, Do you have acpi=off in your grub boot command
[16:44] <RobF_> The DVD drive probably killed itself
[16:44] <tritium> zoomboot8: rather, the DVD drive hardware failed on its own accord
[16:44] <carrera> not yet tritium, i was going to do that after my workout
[16:44] <carrera> Jack_Sparrow, good point, lemme check...
[16:45] <zoomboot8> tritium: maybe a normal dvd drive, but a burner?   If you can find logs that detail anything that might be going on when that occurs, that would help.
[16:45] <tritium> zoomboot8: yes, I'm sure.
[16:45] <iRRVi> okay i figured out what was wrong with the gvc - but i cant figure out how to fix it: it says "Error...shared library thingy...libshpinxad.so.0"...but its right there at /usr/local/lib/libsphinxad.so.0
[16:46] <iRRVi> (no such file or directory, you know the drill)
[16:46] <zoomboot8> tritium: well, I burn my isos now in XP, since I'm paranoid and my warranty is over... that's really all I use XP for now...
[16:47] <RobF_> Zoom, its a shame. kb3 is great.
[16:47] <chelz> how do i know if i'm using the latest nvidia binary driver?
[16:47] <bod_> prince_jammys, u here? can uremind me of that command again plz,.,.the one to substitute lines in a text file
[16:47] <rsk> chelz: fire up nvidia-config
[16:47] <kdub> wow, this channel just keeps growing...