[05:26] <aram> what should i do know
[05:26] <Kuropon> run it ^^
[05:26] <nickrud> rainwalker, my laptop does suspend and hibernate (without fglrx of course) Love that salesman
[05:26] <sainzeo> aram: look under Applications, Internet - should be listed there i believe
[05:26] <Schmick> aram: close this and runn xchat :).. it's in applications, internet.. .. yes sainzeo
[05:26] <bazhang> Extravert: uninstall it? I thought you wanted to get the most recent one.
[05:26] <rainwalker> nickrud: lucky!
[05:26] <aram> because currently i run ubuntu with virtual mashine
[05:26] <noor> you guys
[05:26] <Flannel> nickrud: you have different partitions for your server and desktop install?
[05:26] <Schmick> that's ok aram
[05:26] <Extravert> bazhang: it removes critical components
[05:26] <aram> because i have got difficualty to install ubuntu on my actual system
[05:27] <Nergar> Flannel: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2899/
[05:27] <noor> i need to separate a video file (avi) but i dont know hwo to
[05:27] <Flannel> Nergar: you have different partitions for your server and desktop install?
[05:27] <aram> i just want to know how can i come to this chat room again
[05:27] <aram> to ask my remaining quistion
[05:27] <noor> download
[05:27] <Nergar> Flannel: yes, want to se my disk layout?
[05:27] <nickrud> Flannel, no, I just have a desktop. I had two breezy installs, one for me, one for troubleshooting here.
[05:27] <noor> aram: i downloaded X-chat
[05:27] <Schmick> aram:  opening xchat will bring you back here.
[05:28] <aram> ok schmick  i will come again now
[05:28] <sainzeo> aram: xchat is setup to automatically connect to this channel
[05:28] <Extravert> bazhang: When im decrypting a file, the console becomes filled with unicode and at the end the console becomes corrupted.
[05:28] <rainwalker> sainzeo: I didn't know that, cool
[05:28] <Flannel> Nergar: Please, yes.  And, is this /boot/grub/menu.lst?  or /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst?
[05:28] <noor> can some one help me split a .avi file? i need em in two parts
[05:28] <rainwalker> noor: two parts as in a beginning and end?
[05:29] <noor> rainwalker: yeah
[05:29] <rainwalker> noor: you could check out kino or avidemux
[05:29] <guero> could someone help me get rmvb files to play properly? i've managed to get video playback but there's no sound.
[05:29] <wldx> thanks it works now
[05:29] <nickrud> Flannel, a chainloader for an ubuntu server?
[05:29] <aram_> hi
[05:29] <etfb> !channels
[05:29] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[05:29] <rainwalker> hey aram_
[05:29] <aram_> i am comming again
[05:29] <rainwalker> aram_: everything working?
[05:29] <Schmick> aram_:  well done!
[05:29] <Flannel> nickrud: I'm a bit confused by that as well.  Also the fact that his desktop and server are both on the same partition.
[05:30] <aram_> ok i have got another problem with installing ubuntu
[05:30] <aram_> yes every this is ok thanks a lot
[05:30] <noor> rainwalker: ill do that right now
[05:30] <aram_> but the only problem is i can not type that much fast
[05:30] <aram_> and you are all so fast
[05:30] <aram_> :)
[05:30] <noor> aram: good job ^___^
[05:30] <rainwalker> aram_: practice haha
[05:30] <Schmick> ok.. can you see the private message now?.. in the list on the left?
[05:30] <nickrud> Flannel, I could see using a server kernel on the same partition, same packages otherwise and all
[05:30] <jhhh> do i install xchat or xchat-gnome?
[05:31] <aram_> that was what i was thinking about
[05:31] <rainwalker> aram_: also, if you need to type names really fast, you can start typing and press Tab and it will complete it for you
[05:31]  * GreySim thinks xchat-gnome is nicer, personally.
[05:31] <rainwalker> jhhh: xchat
[05:31] <sainzeo> jhhh: i've found "xchat" to much more friendly to the eyes than "xchat-gnome"
[05:31] <robdig> jhhh: xchat
[05:31] <Nergar> Flannel: it is /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst (ubuntu). heres my disk: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2900/
[05:31]  * nickrud holds up a cross towards GreySim
[05:31] <rainwalker> jhhh: xchat-gnome is horrible
[05:31] <Flannel> nickrud: Theyre on separate partitions, or thats what he said.  Except thats not what his grub reflects.  It is what the contents of his /boot supports though
[05:31] <aram_> rainwalker what does that mean
[05:31] <GreySim> Heh, I'm not surprised to be in the minority on that one actually.
[05:32] <aram_> if i pres tab what would happen
[05:32]  * GreySim should've thought about that before making recommendations to others.
[05:32] <NoorulIslaam> hey there's an Ubuntu Me . cool :D
[05:32] <rainwalker> aram_: if yo need to type out someone's name, like "rainwalker", instead of typing out the whole word you can type "rain" and press tab and it will finish the word for you
[05:32] <wldx> now i found a new error
[05:32] <wldx> error: *** termcap support not found
[05:32] <aram_> rainwalker:  thanks a lot
[05:32] <Schmick> aram_:  TAB auto completes names of ppl in the chat
[05:32] <aram_> thats is gera
[05:32] <aram_> great
[05:32] <Flannel> Nergar: alright, this is what you need to change on your mounted boot's menu.lst, change lines 131 and 137 to be hd0,2
[05:32] <aram_> ok
[05:32] <rainwalker> aram_: yeah, it really helps :)
[05:33] <keithclark> robdig:  Those instructions do not work, thanks.
[05:33] <sainzeo> rainwalker, never knew that either - thanks for the tip
[05:33] <Schmick> aram_: .. did you receive the private message now?
[05:33] <rainwalker> aram_: did you see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3978530#post3978530
[05:33] <Flannel> nickrud: and then the other interesting thing is its actually trying to boot his home partition, for both of them (server is hd0,5, desktop is hd0,2)
[05:33] <aram_> rainwalker:  no
[05:33] <aram_> how can i see it
[05:33] <rainwalker> sainzeo: you're welcome :)
[05:33] <rainwalker> aram_: click the link
[05:33] <Consty> is fedora a good platform for the redhat certifications?  Or do I need the retail version?
[05:33] <jhhh> ok now
[05:33] <Flannel> Nergar: and I'm a bit amazed you've been able to boot your server at that, for the record.
[05:33] <jhhh> im all updated, i have xchat installed
[05:34] <aram_> rainwalker:  which link
[05:34] <jhhh> now -- how the hell do i get my external monitor to work :>
[05:34] <rainwalker> aram_:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3978530#post3978530
[05:34] <nickrud> Flannel, that is a world class interesting menu.lst
[05:34] <Nergar> Flannel: why?
[05:34] <ifireball> Consty: out of topic, but no, you need the real RHEL
[05:34] <Consty> ifireball: Sorry wrong channel.. meant to say it in #fedora :)
[05:34] <Flannel> Nergar: because you're trying to boot to your home partition, instead of your server one.
[05:34] <Consty> ifireball: Thanks though!
[05:34] <aram_> rainwalker:  i have opend it
[05:34] <keithclark> Any other ideas to get DVD playback to work?
[05:34] <nickrud> I've obviously missed a pastebin somewhere
[05:35] <Flannel> Nergar: hd0,6 is sda7, hd0,5 is sda5.  If this works (the hd0,2), we need to make it permanent
[05:35] <zero0x> test
[05:35] <sainzeo> keithclark: have you tried using VLC?
[05:35] <Nergar> Flannel: lol!
[05:35] <rainwalker> aram_: that's just a thread about keeping your system up-to-date, and the different ways you can install software
[05:35] <aram_> the other problem i have got is that i can not install ubuntu on my system
[05:35] <Nergar> Flannel: I pasted it wrong!
[05:35] <Flannel> nickrud: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2899/ and 2900
[05:35] <zero0x> please help me i deleted /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/sis_drv.so and I need it BACK
[05:35] <keithclark> sainzeo, you still need some type of decoder, no?
[05:35] <rainwalker> aram_: why can't you install it?
[05:36] <zero0x> can any1 help me how to get my driver back ?? (now I'm running on vesa)
[05:36] <aram_> when i try to install i put the ubuntu live cd and it will boot and i press enter to boot from cd
[05:36] <aram_> and it says
[05:36] <sainzeo> keithclark: have you tried installing "ubuntu restricted extras" from Add/Remove?
[05:36] <nickrud> Flannel, if he booted of sda7 , it can't be home :(
[05:36] <aram_> /bin/sh:cant access tty :job center turned off
[05:36] <_Casey_> i did an update and now my sound isnt working
[05:36] <rainwalker> zero0x: want me to email a copy of mine to you?
[05:36] <aram_> and in below it says (initramfs)
[05:36] <keithclark> sainzeo, yes, I had to to get my vid card and wireless running.
[05:36] <zero0x> rainwalker: that would be great (for gutsy)
[05:37] <noor> aram: did you try safe graphics mode?
[05:37] <zero0x> rainwalker: can I give you my email?
[05:37] <rainwalker> zero0x: pm your email address
[05:37] <aram_> no
[05:37] <_Casey_> anyone?
[05:37] <aram_> noor :no
[05:37] <Nergar> Flannel: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2901/
[05:37] <Extravert> bazhang: ahaa found it.  no valid Openpgp data found
[05:37] <noor> aram: because when i had problems i it solved em
[05:37] <aram_> but most of the option deos not work
[05:37] <zero0x> rainwalker<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(i'm not registered!)
[05:37] <aram_> they just give me error
[05:37] <rainwalker> zero0x: okay, just a sec....
[05:37] <noor> aram: sorry i guess you can try google
[05:38] <nickrud> ok, that's more reasonable
[05:38] <zero0x> rainwalker: thank you and hope it will work :)
[05:38] <_Casey_> anyone?
[05:38] <aram_> noor :try google to find an answer?
[05:38] <keithclark> sainzeo:  Nothing there about a DVD decoder though
[05:39] <Flannel> Nergar: Interesting.  Alright, well, you need to change the first stuff to hd0,5 then.  Lines 131 and 137 "root (hd0,6)" is the current contents
[05:39] <sainzeo> keithclark, "Ubuntu restricted extras" is different than "Restricted Drivers Manager"
[05:39] <noor> aram: yeah it should help
[05:39] <Flannel> Nergar: and again, if that works, we need to make it permanent
[05:39] <Nergar> Flannel: ok, gona try
[05:39] <_Casey_> what happens when my volume thingy says "No volume control GStreamer plugins/and or devices found"
[05:39] <rainwalker> zero0x: sent
[05:39] <aram_> noor :thanks
[05:39] <keithclark> sainzeo, ok.  I'm new.....the extras are where?
[05:39] <aram_> noor :i just in room again maybe some one can help
[05:39] <aram_> can any one please help me what should i do with the error i get whn i try to install ubuntu
[05:40] <rainwalker> keithclark: Applications > Add/remove
[05:40] <sainzeo> keithclark, if you go to Applications - Add/Remove Applications, make sure that you switch the Show: to All available applications, then type restricted in the search bar
[05:40] <_Casey_> what happens when my volume thingy says "No volume control GStreamer plugins/and or devices found" ?
[05:41] <aram_> the erroris /bin/sh:can not access tty: job central turned off
[05:41] <aram_> that is the error i get
[05:41] <rainwalker> _Casey_: hmm...sounds like you're missing something
[05:41]  * Schmick is away
[05:41] <_Casey_> rainwalker
[05:41] <keithclark> sainzeo, ok, because VLC just crashes.
[05:41] <_Casey_> i did an update and now my sound is missing
[05:41] <Flannel> !away > Schmick
[05:41] <rainwalker> aram_: try searching the forums for that, I've seen people having that error before
[05:41] <_Casey_> also i installed some things to get my dvd to play and when i restarted my sound is mising
[05:41] <rainwalker> aram_: http://ubuntuforums.org
[05:42] <aram_> rainwalker how can serach
[05:42] <sainzeo> keithclark, were you able to add the "Ubuntu restricted extras" package from Add/REmove?
[05:42] <aram_> i mean what should i type
[05:42] <Doctor_Nick> is there something like a "grub repair" tool, that reconfigures grub after it
[05:42] <Doctor_Nick> 's been messed up?
[05:42] <rainwalker> aram_: search for "job control turned off"
[05:42] <keithclark> sainzeo, it was already added.
[05:42] <Nergar> Flannel: but why did it happened?
[05:42] <Flannel> Doctor_Nick: Define messed up?
[05:42] <aram_> rainwalker:  thanks a lot
[05:42] <Nergar> whas it the update?
[05:42] <rainwalker> ah, I have to sleep now, g'night all!
[05:42] <rainwalker> aram_: no problem
[05:42] <Flannel> Nergar: Does that work?
[05:42] <bazhang> bye rainwalker
[05:42] <rainwalker> peace
[05:42] <aram_> and also because i have just began to learn linux #
[05:42] <_Casey_> ok no help i guess :/
[05:42] <ogre> what do I type in terminal to re-enable wireless? I installed a security hardening tool and it disabled wireless then I removed tool
[05:42] <_Casey_> ogre
[05:42] <sainzeo> keithclark, open a terminal window (Applications - Accessories - Terminal), then type vlc
[05:43] <_Casey_> use modprobe
[05:43] <Alloos1> hi, in windows I use traceroute domain, how about ubuntu?
[05:43] <aram_> i want to learn the linux which is the best for networking
[05:43] <Doctor_Nick> Flannel: I'm getting the problem with not being able to boot after the kernel header upgrade, inconsistent filesystem structure
[05:43] <_Casey_> and your wireless driver name
[05:43] <Myrtti> tracepath
[05:43] <sainzeo> keithclark, that should start VLC up - attempt to open a DVD and watch what the terminal displays when VLC crashes
[05:43] <Doctor_Nick> but my menu.lst has the correct values, correct drive and uuid
[05:43] <keithclark> vlc started but when I tried to open the disc, it just shut itself down
[05:43] <_Casey_> mine is "modprobe ipw3945"
[05:43] <aram_> could you help me which version is the best linux for networking and security
[05:43] <bazhang> _Casey_: it could be muted
[05:43] <jhhh> i like xchat btw
[05:43] <_Casey_> no its not muted
[05:43] <Flannel> Doctor_Nick: I see.  I imagine thats not a GRUB issue.  If I had to pick something, that is.
[05:43] <Nergar> Flannel: haven't tried.
[05:43] <ifireball> Doctor_Nick: vesious stuff comes up when you do grub<tab> on terminal, I didn't try any of those so you'll need to research then a little with man/google
[05:43] <_Casey_> keith
[05:43] <ogre> _Casey_,  I have the same nic
[05:43] <jhhh> now plz get my external monitor working gurus :>
[05:43] <tritium> !best | aram_
[05:43] <ubotu> aram_: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[05:43] <_Casey_> ogre
[05:43] <ifireball> Doctor_Nick: various*
[05:43] <_Casey_> type "modprobe ipw3945"
[05:43] <neur1> in xubuntu where is the volume ? tried adding an applet to the panel but it's a no-go
[05:44] <aram_> no i mean the best os
[05:44] <_Casey_> keithclark try xine
[05:44] <Nergar> Flannel: be right back
[05:44] <_Casey_> sudo apt-get install xine-ui
[05:44] <aram_> for example suse ,debian,ubuntu ,fedora
[05:44] <Doctor_Nick> has there been an official statement on these issues with not being able to boot after these upgrades, it seems that alot of people are getting htem
[05:44] <aram_> i have mcse for windows xp
[05:44] <ogre> _Casey_,  then what?
[05:44] <sainzeo> keithclark, i believe i know what the problem is but i'm trying to remember what the fix was...VLC will work fine though once we figure that out
[05:44] <aram_> sorry windows 2003 server
[05:44] <Pelchflum> Anyone mind helping a n00b get their Siemens SS1022 USB working in Ubuntu?
[05:44] <greenmanspirit> ok, why is it when I plug headphones in sound comes out both the normal speakers and the headphones on my laptop
[05:44] <hockeyfan5000> aram, hush..lol
[05:44] <aram_> and just want to leran about linux as well
[05:44] <_Casey_> it should be on
[05:44] <jhhh> anyone know a good software based spam filter that will tie into evolution (or should I use firefox email client?) recommendation?
[05:44] <keithclark> sainzeo, libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
[05:45] <eddy> My system is simply screwed up, is there a way to use linux update even though I'm up to date?
[05:45] <Flannel> Nergar: Alright, well, if it does, you need to change line 74 the same way.  That'll make it permanent.  As it why it happened, I imagine something got crossed up in your server install that made it edit this boot instead.  Why do you have two different installs anyway?  They'll happily coexist on the same partition(s)
[05:45] <earthsound> is hotplugging of wacom tablets achievable in 7.10? i have read through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WacomTabletIssue and a few other resources & have only one problem:
[05:45] <aram_> i just want to start from that one which is best for me any suggestion
[05:45] <aram_> ?
[05:45] <_Casey_> !hdaintel > _Casey_
[05:45] <aram_> which linux is best for networking ?
[05:45] <earthsound> the graphire 4 tablet is plugged into a monitor & when it comes back from power save mode, it loses it's "relative" mode
[05:46] <earthsound> aram_: what kind of networking are you trying to do?
[05:46] <aram_> domain
[05:46] <Mini-Me> heya, very quick noob question for anyone who knows this:  What file are Gnome/X/etc. mouse settings (sensitivity and acceleration) stored in?  I need to know so I can back up these settings, etc...
[05:46] <hockeyfan5000> aram_: Any linux version that uses TCP/IP should be good...;-)
[05:46] <aram_> i know what do you mean
[05:46] <ifireball> aram_: "networking" is such a huge word, you have to be more specific
[05:46] <aram_> but i heard that some one says for example
[05:46] <earthsound> aram_: like a domain controller?
[05:46] <eddy> is there a way to use linux update even though I'm up to date?  (To download new system files)
[05:46] <aram_> yes in two ways
[05:46] <Pelchflum> Does anyone know how to get a SS1022 wireless adapter working under Ubuntu 7.10?
[05:47] <aram_> security and domain controller
[05:47] <_Casey_> !wireless
[05:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:47] <sainzeo> keithclark, try typing in the terminal: sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
[05:47] <ifireball> aram_: if you want it to "join your windows domain" Ubuntu may not be the best choice, it can do that it it lacks the tools to make it easy to accomplish
[05:47] <Pelchflum> thx
[05:47] <aram_> for example the one which most people use them as server
[05:47] <aram_> for big comapny
[05:47] <_Casey_> gah i want my sound issue fixed
[05:48] <hockeyfan5000> SUSE Enterprise is fairly popular
[05:48] <aram_> that is the thing
[05:48] <earthsound> aram_: you can you samba or openLDAP
[05:48] <Memot> Can anyone tell me if i can run the downloaded version of Gutsy Ribbon as a live CD?
[05:48] <ifireball> aram_: most "big companies" use RedHat/Suse for "big servers" nowdays
[05:48] <aram_> i want to start from the one which would be the best choise
[05:48] <earthsound> best choice depends on your skill level
[05:48] <aram_> i have suse 10.3
[05:48] <noor_> i need help T___T on how to Corp a video
[05:48] <sainzeo> keithclark, what did that command do for you?
[05:49] <hockeyfan5000> aram_: FreeBSD hehe
[05:49] <aram_> sorry open suse
[05:49] <keithclark> sainzeo, i will try
[05:49] <eddy> how long until ubuntu updates?
[05:49] <aram_> hockeyfan5000: what do you mean ?
[05:49] <greenmanspirit> ok, why is it when I plug headphones in sound comes out both the normal speakers and the headphones on my laptop
[05:49] <keithclark> sainzeo, already installed the latest version
[05:49] <_Casey_> greenman
[05:49] <sainzeo> keithclark, damn...umm...
[05:49] <_Casey_> be lucky, i have no sound anymore
[05:49] <earthsound> has anyone had any luck getting tablet input devices to keep their settings when the USB comes back up from power save, etc.?
[05:49] <Memot> Can anyone tell me if i can run the downloaded version of Gutsy Ribbon as a live CD?
[05:49] <noor_> wait no not corp i just need help taking a scene from a video and just saving that scene
[05:50] <keithclark> sainzeo, it is not a total loss.  I can always do video under pclos.
[05:50] <keithclark> sainzeo, video worked out of the box there.
[05:50] <aram_> in other for example if  try to work with ubuntu
[05:50] <ifireball> aram_: if you really want to learn to be a sysadmin, I suggest starting by reading a basic UNIX book that will teach you the basics of file permissions/devices/etc.
[05:50] <aram_> and leran how to do things
[05:50] <Mini-Me> sorry to butt in, but I have a quick noob question:  What files are Gnome/X/etc. mouse settings (sensitivity and acceleration) stored in?  I need to know so I can back up these settings, etc...
[05:50] <aram_> ifireball: thanks
[05:50] <T1m0thy> I have a gig of ram and 30/60 gb of space free on my hard drive, and a 1.5 gb swap partition. Firefox (most of the time) and other programs sometimes stop responding a lot and Pidgin sometimes randomly closes. Any ideas as to why this happens so much? Should I try Firefox 3?
[05:50] <Geoffrey2> Memot, it depends on which version you downloaded....the server version can't, the desktop version IS a LiveCD
[05:51] <aram_> i mean if i learn ubuntu would all the linux use same method
[05:51] <keithclark> sainzeo, I was warned about dvds and wireless in Ubuntu before installation.
[05:51] <aram_> like some basic method
[05:51] <alain> hello again.. i installed NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run from there site.. and it mess up my display.. it wont detect the driver and displays 800x600 only.. how can i enable again the driver... plss
[05:51] <Memot> Geoffrey2: Thanks :-)
[05:51] <aram_> sorry guys i am asking some simple and rediculous quistion
[05:51] <hola> hola
[05:51] <earthsound> Memot: yes. http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[05:51] <sainzeo> keithclark, well i know it works fine as I've been using, but at the same time, I had your same problem and was able to fix it so I"m trying to remember what i did haha
[05:51] <aram_> but i am new to linux and dont know any thing about it
[05:51] <ifireball> aram_: the basics are the same for all Linux/Unix systems
[05:51] <hockeyfan5000> que pasa hola
[05:52] <_Casey_> is there some command to reenable sound or something
[05:52] <keithclark> sainzeo, thanks for trying.  I had no issues with the wireless or my ATI card, so they were wrong about those two!
[05:52] <aram_> ifireball:  if i learn how to work with ubuntu would it be the same as suse
[05:52] <Flannel> !es | hockeyfan5000
[05:52] <ubotu> hockeyfan5000: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[05:52] <ifireball> aram_: in so respects, yes
[05:53] <aram_> ifireball: thanks a lot
[05:53] <ifireball> aram_: but there are differences, for example, package management is different
[05:53] <alain> hello again.. i installed NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run from there site.. and it mess up my display.. it wont detect the driver and displays 800x600 only.. how can i fix this
[05:53] <ifireball> aram_: but if you understand what "package management" is, learning a new system is easy
[05:53] <aram_> ifireball: do you think ubuntu is nice one i mean good chose for me for start
[05:53] <aram_> or no
[05:53] <tritium> alain: if you want support here, use the ubuntu packages, not nvidia .run files
[05:54] <aram_> no i dont under stand
[05:54] <jhhh> hmm
[05:54] <Nergar> Flannel, back to my desktop!!
[05:54] <T1m0thy> I have a gig of ram and 30/60 gb of space free on my hard drive, and a 1.5 gb swap partition. Firefox (most of the time) and other programs sometimes stop responding a lot and Pidgin sometimes randomly closes. Any ideas as to why this happens so much? Should I try Firefox 3?
[05:54] <mrdinkles> i need to check which partition the other OS is on-- I.e (hd0, 1 or 2 or 3)-- any ideas?
[05:54] <tritium> aram_: yes, it is a very good choice to start with
[05:54] <jhhh> for the life of me i cant get my external monitor to work with this, does anyone have a similar situation?"
[05:54] <Memot> Wow
[05:54] <Mini-Me> sorry to butt in, but I have a quick noob question:  What files are Gnome/X/etc. mouse settings (sensitivity and acceleration) stored in?  I need to know so I can back up these settings, etc...
[05:54] <ifireball> aram_: its a good starting point because of the emphasis put on making stuff "just work" it'll mean you'll have to solve less problems on the get go
[05:54] <aram_> ifireball: how can i find informatin about packege managment
[05:54] <sainzeo> keithclark, okay i think this is what I did to fix it...in the terminal, type: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[05:54] <Memot> Ubuntu is not even installed and my internet is faster.
[05:55] <alain> tritium: i want to use the restricted package again.. i enable it on the administration section but still wont fix..
[05:55] <Geoffrey2> aram_: personally, I'm still rather a newbie at linux, and I really like Ubuntu because you can set up a working system without having to learn a brand new language first
[05:55] <Memot> Naming of Ubuntu makes everything faster :P
[05:55] <keithclark> sainzeo, I tried that and got an error
[05:55] <bazhang> Memot: do you have a question? this is a support channel
[05:55] <sainzeo> keithclark, what was the error?
[05:55] <jhhh> oh, and another thing -- anyone know a ntfs file reader so i can access my ntfs partition and copy some files over?
[05:55] <ifireball> aram_: the same way you find information about anything nowdays... google :P or wikipedia maybe
[05:55] <aram_> ifireball: hehe
[05:55] <T1m0thy> jhhh: ntfs-3g
[05:56] <aram_> thank a lot
[05:56] <keithclark> sainzeo, command not found
[05:56] <Extravert> bazhang: found the solution! gpg --decrypt-files <file.gpg>
[05:56] <aram_> ifireball: you know i have  heard  most of the people saying
[05:56] <jhhh> lol thats already installed and working...dumb of me :>
[05:56] <bazhang> Extravert: great news!
[05:56] <mrdinkles>  i need to check which partition the other OS is on-- I.e (hd0, 1 or 2 or 3)-- any ideas?
[05:57] <aram_> thats linux has much more security that windows
[05:57] <Flannel> mrdinkles: sudo fdisk -l (thats a lower case L)
[05:57] <jhhh> now srsly, stop ignoring my plea for help with my external monitor :> google returns about<PHONE_NUMBER>0 hits on it :(
[05:57] <Extravert> bazhang: I think you have to use that when decypting archives
[05:57] <Memot> bazhang: I just asked something, i'm just commenting it, i am still here to ask any further questions.
[05:57] <sainzeo> keithclark, sorry about that, i made a mistake type this instead: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[05:57] <T1m0thy> I have a gig of ram and 30/60 gb of space free on my hard drive, and a 1.5 gb swap partition. Firefox (most of the time) and other programs sometimes stop responding a lot and Pidgin sometimes randomly closes. Any ideas as to why this happens so much? Should I try Firefox 3?
[05:58] <Nergar> Flannel, thanks for the help, i think the problem was in grub root (hd0,6) maybe thats what happened
[05:58] <aram_> ifireball: like they say it is not that easy to hack as windows is
[05:58] <_Casey_> can you uninstall the alsadrivers and reinstall them?
[05:58] <h1st0> T1m0thy: do a memory test
[05:58] <_Casey_> yes, no?
[05:58] <Flannel> Nergar: That is.  Did you change it in line 74?  That got changed, and then the update commited those changes to the menu itself.  But, why do you have a separate server/desktop install anyway?
[05:58] <keithclark> sainzeo: No prebuilt binary available.  Will try to build and install it.
[05:58] <keithclark> You need to have debhelper and fakeroot installed.
[05:58] <keithclark> If not, interrupt now, install them and rerun this script.
[05:58] <keithclark> This is higly experimental, look out for what happens below.
[05:58] <keithclark> If you want to stop, interrupt now (control-c), else press
[05:58] <keithclark> return to proceed
[05:58] <h1st0> _Casey_: what is your problem exactly?
[05:58] <aram_> is it possible to run domain controller on ubuntu
[05:58] <T1m0thy> h1st0: Okay. That should be in my GRUB menu, right?
[05:58] <Flannel> !paste | keithclark
[05:58] <ubotu> keithclark: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:59] <keithclark> sainzeo....are you sure about this?
[05:59] <h1st0> T1m0thy: yeah memtest should be one of the options in grub menu.  Start there make sure your hardware is good.
[05:59] <_Casey_> i did an update on ubuntu and now ubuntu wont recognize my sound, i have no options now
[05:59] <aram_> like dhcp server ,dns server
[05:59] <sainzeo> keithclark, pretty sure
[05:59] <mrdinkles> Flannel: Im updating my menu.lst to add another OS-- the partition is showing as /dev/sda2-- when putting the drive, will i label ass (sda0,2)??
[05:59] <_Casey_> its default on mute, and no sound at all
[05:59] <T1m0thy> h1st0: Alright, thanks. I'll try that tomorrow.
[05:59] <h1st0> _Casey_: a distribution upgrade or just an update to the new kernel?
[05:59] <bazhang> Memot: sorry; just sometimes there are disruptive individuals around--my apologies
[05:59] <Flannel> mrdinkles: No, just like a b c d start at 0; 1,2,3... start at zero as well in grub.  So sda2 is hd0,1
[05:59] <aram_> does any one now
[06:00] <h1st0> _Casey_: and did you ever install sound drivers before or it just worked out of the box?
[06:00] <aram_> know if it is possible to run domain controller on ubuntu or ny
[06:00] <aram_> not
[06:00] <mrdinkles> Flannel: Okay, thats what i put in, but says invalid device O.o
[06:00] <mrdinkles> Flannel when i try and boot from grub
[06:00] <keithclark> sainzeo...nope, nothing worked there
[06:00] <h1st0> aram_: like windows domain controller?
[06:00] <_Casey_> i had to do the hdaintel thing to get my sound to work
[06:00] <Flannel> mrdinkles: Are you mixing sata and ide drives, by any chance?
[06:00] <_Casey_> then i did a normal ubuntu-update
[06:00] <aram_> h1st0:  yes
[06:00] <keithclark> sainzeo....Install debhelper and fakeroot
[06:00] <mrdinkles> Flannel: honestly.. i have no clue
[06:00] <_Casey_> and the sound isnt working
[06:00] <h1st0> _Casey_: yeah the kernel updated so whatever you did before to get it to work you will probably have to do again.
[06:00] <biabia> hi. i installed dvd decrypter in wine but its not detecting my cdrom/dvdroms, and none of the interface options in devd decrypter make it detect the drives either. something to do with ASAPI or ATAPI
[06:00] <Nergar> Flannel, to try out the server and hava a backup install for emergencies like this one. i think the problem was caused when i removed and partition and i created it again
[06:00] <mrdinkles> Flannel: title           BackTrack
[06:00] <mrdinkles> root            (hd0,1)
[06:00] <mrdinkles> makeactive
[06:00] <mrdinkles> chainloader     +1| that whats in the menu.lst
[06:01] <Flannel> mrdinkles: Alright, well, what partitions/harddrives do you have?
[06:01] <keithclark> sainzeo....no worries.  I guess it was not meant to work on this machine.
[06:01] <h1st0> _Casey_: or boot to the old kernel in the grub menu.
[06:01] <_Casey_> no, i just went to update manager and installed the new stuff it had
[06:01] <Mini-Me> sorry to butt in, but I have a quick noob question:  What files are Gnome/X/etc. mouse settings (sensitivity and acceleration) stored in?  I need to know so I can back up these settings, etc...
[06:01] <sainzeo> keithclark, it has to work!
[06:01] <Flannel> mrdinkles: pastebin (not here) the output of that fdisk -l
[06:01] <aram_> ?
[06:01] <gluonman> For some odd reason I cannot get video to work right in Firefox.
[06:01] <h1st0> _Casey_: yes and that was a kernel update
[06:01] <aram_> h1st0 :?
[06:01] <_Casey_> ahh ok
[06:01] <h1st0> _Casey_: reboot your machine and hit esc at the grub menu select the old kernel and I bet your sound will work.
[06:01] <logan_> #republican
[06:01] <gluonman> Can anyone help me diagnose and fix my problem? Video not working well in Firefox.
[06:02] <_Casey_> can i just do the whole hdaintel thing again
[06:02] <h1st0> aram_: like a microsoft domain controller?
[06:02] <keithclark> sainzeo, don't worry.  You tried.  It is not the only problem with Ubuntu.  It takes over 3-4 minutes to boot is the biggest one.
[06:02] <mrdinkles> /dev/sda1   *           1        2404    19310098+  83  Linux
[06:02] <mrdinkles> /dev/sda2            4677        4864     1510110    5  Extended
[06:02] <mrdinkles> /dev/sda3            2405        4676    18249840   83  Linux
[06:02] <mrdinkles> /dev/sda5            4677        4864     1510078+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[06:02] <h1st0> _Casey_: yeap should work if it worked before.
[06:02] <aram_> h1st0:  yes
[06:02] <_Casey_> ok well it takes a while, ima try it now
[06:02] <keithclark> sainzeo, For whatever reasons, pclos just seems to work on this laptop.  I'm not sure why.
[06:02] <sainzeo> keithclark, hmm, ive experienced very good booting times, but who knows what's causing your problem
[06:02] <mrdinkles> Flannel: ??? whats pastebin?
[06:02] <Flannel> mrdinkles: please dont paste here.  But, its because your next install/whatever is actually sda3, so hd0,2 is right
[06:02] <Flannel> !paste | mrdinkles
[06:02] <ubotu> mrdinkles: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:02] <h1st0> aram_: not that I know of.  But there are dns and dhcp server options availible.
[06:02] <keithclark> sainzeo, exactly.  Ubuntu is just not going to work out on this laptop.
[06:03] <aram_> ok thanks a lot
[06:03] <Nergar> anyhow thanks a lot Flannel
[06:03] <mrdinkles> Flannel: sorry =/ had a feeling that was bad
[06:03] <sainzeo> keithclark, well, i'm sure there is a workaround, just can't figure it out at the moment :( wish you wouldn't give up on ubuntu so fast :P
[06:03] <aram_> any one know if i can update from linux 7.04 to 7.10?
[06:03] <aram_> ubuntu
[06:03] <h1st0> keithclark: most likely it is just a driver issue if another distro works fine.
[06:03] <_Casey_> ki have ubuntu on my laptop, i had to make it work right
[06:03] <mrdinkles> Flannel: Now what was your reasoning for it being hdo2?? I thought i put the actual partition as the second one?
[06:03] <keithclark> sainzeo, life is short and I must move on.  I was impressed with the rest though.  Very impressive and responsive.
[06:04] <h1st0> aram_: just dist upgrade with the update manager
[06:04] <sainzeo> keithclark, glad to hear it
[06:04] <h1st0> !upgrade > aram_ (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[06:04] <Mini-Me> sorry to butt in, but I have a quick noob question:  What files are Gnome/X/etc. mouse settings (sensitivity and acceleration) stored in?  I need to know so I can back up these settings, etc...
[06:04] <keithclark> sainzeo, pclos has no 64 bit version which is one of the reasons why I tried ubuntu.
[06:04] <bigadam> Hey all
[06:04] <aram_> h1st0: thanks a lot
[06:04] <h1st0> aram_: np
[06:04] <aram_> the other think for install my graphic card
[06:05] <h1st0> aram_: what type of card
[06:05] <bigadam> I have a Ricoh Co Ltd R5C843 on gusty running on a Dell 6400
[06:05] <aram_> i dont know i can not install vmware toll
[06:05] <aram_> too
[06:05] <sainzeo> keithclark, oh, so you're using the x64 version of ubuntu currently? maybe theres something with that...i run the 32bit because i've run into far less problems with it
[06:05] <aram_> tool
[06:05] <bigadam> I can not seem to mount cards and nothing shows as fdisk -l
[06:05] <bigadam> why !?
[06:05] <h1st0> aram_: lspci should tell you what type of video card
[06:05] <earthsound> Mini-Me: look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:05] <Flannel> mrdinkles: No, counting starts at 0 in GRUB, and at 1 (or a) in linux.  So sda1 is hd0,0
[06:05] <ifireball> aram_: Samba (which is available on any Linux including Ubuntu) can act as an NT-compatible DC, the next Samba version should also be able to imitate a w2k AD
[06:05] <keithclark> sainzeo, I will stick with the 32 bit version of pclos for the time being.
[06:06] <aram_> sorry i didnt get it
[06:06] <mrdinkles> Flannel: so isnt the partition sda2 considered hd0,1?
[06:06] <keithclark> sainzeo, I wanted to take advantage of my 64 bit processor
[06:06] <sainzeo> keithclark, maybe you would be up for trying the 32bit version of ubuntu? :)
[06:06] <h1st0> ifireball: really didn't know samba can act as dc nice
[06:06] <sainzeo> keithclark, yeah i hear ya
[06:06] <aram_> because my graphic quality is so low
[06:06] <h1st0> aram_: type lspci | grep VGA
[06:06] <h1st0> aram_: in a console
[06:06] <Flannel> mrdinkles: yes.  But your other linux install is sda3 not sda2
[06:06] <aram_> and vmware saying that i need to install vmware tools
[06:06] <keithclark> sainzeo, I'm not sure that there is any difference, really, between pclos and ubuntu.  Both are awesome from what I've seen.
[06:06] <aram_> h1st0 : in where?
[06:06] <mrdinkles> Flannel: But the partition with the OS is on sda2 =/
[06:06] <h1st0> aram_: do you need to use vmware because virtualbox is a nice alternative.
[06:06] <Mini-Me> earthsound:  thanks, but I've tried looking in there, and I didn't find any settings obviously related to the acceleration or sensitivity :/
[06:07] <h1st0> aram_: in a terminal
[06:07] <Flannel> mrdinkles: no its not.
[06:07] <aram_> ok
[06:07] <aram_> i mean i can not install virtual box
[06:07] <ifireball> h1st0: there is actually a nice HOWTO on HOWTO-Forge about accomplishing this with Ubuntu
[06:07] <h1st0> aram_: applications > accessories > terminal    then when it opens type in lspci | grep VGA
[06:07] <mrdinkles> Flannel: how do you know lol?
[06:07] <aram_> how can i install it?
[06:07] <h1st0> ifireball: nice
[06:07] <aram_> ye i know where it is thabks
[06:07] <h1st0> !virtualbox > > (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[06:07] <Flannel> mrdinkles: mrdinkles because you pasted your filesystem
[06:07] <mrdinkles> Flannel: your godlike linux abilities are frightening
[06:07] <h1st0> !virtualbox > aram_ (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[06:08] <mrdinkles> Flannel: but i could have sworn the partition was second in line
[06:08] <aram_> h1st0:when you send me a massage the color is yellow
[06:08] <h1st0> aram_: because i'm typing your name first
[06:08] <keithclark> sainzeo, I don't see a real need to dual boot two comparable 32 bit o/s
[06:08] <Flannel> mrdinkles: 22:02 < mrdinkles> /dev/sda3            2405        4676    18249840   83  Linux
[06:08] <sainzeo> keithclark, oh no, i def understand
[06:08] <h1st0> Open a terminal and type in lscpi | grep VGA
[06:08] <h1st0> aram_: ^^^^^^^^^
[06:08] <mrdinkles> Flannel: ima try it flannel, i trust you, you keep me warm in the winter
[06:08] <aram_> ok if i get yellow means you are typing for me
[06:08] <mrdinkles> Flannel: brb
[06:08] <h1st0> aram_: yeapers
[06:08] <ifireball> aram_: yeah, when you want to tell someone something type their name, of the won't see your message in the flow of other messages
[06:08] <aram_> and any one else type for me show yellow?
[06:09] <h1st0> aram_: and when you type my name first it highlights the line for me.  Its the way we keep track in a busy room like this.
[06:09] <aram_> h1st0 :what does other color mean
[06:09] <keithclark> sainzeo, I just did some research in the background here and the DVD does seem to be a big downside to ubuntu.
[06:09] <Chris|> aram_ it depends on  your client
[06:09] <h1st0> aram_: dunno what color you are talking about and it depends on the client you are using.
[06:09] <keithclark> sainzeo, at least with what I've read online so far.
[06:10] <Geoffrey2> for right now, fglrx is the driver I want for ATI cards, correct?
[06:10] <sainzeo> keithclark, i haven't really had many problems with the DVD stuff, other than what I thought your problem was :(
[06:10] <aram_> h1st0:  because i think ind just will be online every day a just want to know the secruts:d
[06:10] <ajmorris_> uh oh, are there any freenode staff around?
[06:10] <sonja> how do i install this keyboard? http://freshmeat.net/projects/intdvorak_xkb/
[06:10] <aram_> h1st0:  what blue mean ?
[06:10] <keithclark> sainzeo, it appears like people spend hours to get it working.
[06:10] <aram_> does it mean any thing
[06:10] <warriorforgod> ajmorris_: why?
[06:11] <_Casey_> ok time for reboot to see if sound works
[06:11] <aram_> h1st0:
[06:11] <h1st0> aram_: it depends on your client
[06:11] <aram_> h1st0:  what do you mean
[06:11] <_Casey_> h1st0 wish me luck
[06:11] <aram_> h1st0:  what is my client?
[06:11] <keithclark> sainzeo, at least according to what Dell has been saying.  They are going to implement some changes to their own distro of Ubuntu to solve the problem.
[06:11] <keithclark> sainzeo, with LinDVD I think.
[06:11] <ajmorris_> warriorforgod: someone changed the pswd on my channel
[06:11] <sainzeo> keithclark, yeah i heard that too that it would be working out of the box from Dell
[06:11] <izanbardprince> just get libdvdcss
[06:11] <aram_> h1st0: for example i receive blue ,purpule and load of color
[06:11] <bazhang> linDVD? wow
[06:11] <izanbardprince> and have at it
[06:11] <ajmorris_> warriorforgod: are you a staffer? or do you know what teh command is to find the list of staff?
[06:11] <mrdinkles> Flannel: I got the error needs a specific pathname
[06:12] <h1st0> aram_: what ever program you are using to talk to us right now.
[06:12] <Mini-Me> sorry to butt in, but I have a quick noob question:  What files are Gnome/X/etc. mouse settings (sensitivity and acceleration) stored in?  I need to know so I can back up these settings, etc...I can't find any relevant settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, either :(
[06:12] <aram_> ok
[06:12] <mrdinkles> Flannel: how can i send you a print out of what i have int here without flooding?
[06:12] <aram_> h1st0:how could i find this information ?
[06:12] <Flannel> Mini-Me: User configurations are all stored in your homedir (in the dotfiles in your homedir)
[06:12] <warriorforgod> ajmorris_: I would try in #freenode
[06:12] <Flannel> !paste | mrdinkles
[06:12] <ubotu> mrdinkles: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:12] <nickrud> sonja, system->prefs->keyboard, layouts. Hit the add button, and on the variants, choose dvorak
[06:12] <keithclark> sainzeo, Like I said, it's just what I read
[06:12] <ajmorris_> warriorforgod: ah kewl, tks
[06:12] <nadio> Do I need PCI IDE Chipset support, for mobo IDE by any chance?
[06:12] <warriorforgod> ajmorris_: np
[06:13] <aram_> h1st0:  is there any source that i can learn about terminal command ?
[06:13] <keithclark> sainzeo, I know that pclos worked out of the box, but that was the 32 bit version.  Not comparable here.
[06:13] <Flannel> !cli | aram_
[06:13] <ifireball> Mini-Me: most of your preferences are in your home dir, the gnome stuff is under .gconf
[06:13] <ubotu> aram_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[06:13] <bazhang> sainzeo: get the package you want from www.medibuntu.org it's called libdvdcss2 the instructions are there to install it
[06:14] <nickrud> Mini-Me, the mouse conf is kept in ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/peripherals/mouse
[06:14] <keithclark> bashang, it was me that was looking for help and that did not work
[06:14] <Mini-Me> Flannel:  thanks - I'll poke around a bit more in there - in that case, are the sensitivity and acceleration specific to Gnome?
[06:14] <aram_> h1st0: i know what do you mean i men how can i learn the codes
[06:14] <_Casey_> ccongrats to me the alsa driver worked ;x
[06:14] <sainzeo> keithclark, did you see what bazhang wrote?
[06:14] <aram_> h1st0: like any sources?
[06:14] <Mini-Me> ifireball:  thanks to you, too :)
[06:14] <Flannel> Mini-Me: I imagine so, yes.  Infact nickrud just told you exactly where
[06:14] <sainzeo> keithclark, i would try that
[06:14] <Mini-Me> nickrud:  thanks to you, too :)
[06:14] <keithclark> bazhang, no big problem.
[06:14] <h1st0> aram_: just google linux console howto
[06:15] <aram_> h1st0:?
[06:15] <nickrud> Mini-Me, you should just back up all the dot files, that covers just about everything :)
[06:15] <keithclark> sainzeo, I tried that with no luck.
[06:15] <aram_> h1st0:  what does it mena
[06:15]  * AutoMatriX told you : I'll be back
[06:15] <aram_> h1st0:  you mean i could search on google?
[06:15] <greenmanspirit> ok, why is it when I plug headphones in sound comes out both the normal speakers and the headphones on my laptop
[06:15] <aram_> h1sto:i mean any book or learning matrial
[06:15] <aram_> h1st0:  any good source
[06:16] <ifireball> greenmanspirit: that really depends on your hardware...
[06:16] <sainzeo> greenmanspirit: when you plug your headphones in, try double-clicking the sound icon near the clock and look for a checkbox labeled "Front" - uncheck that and you shouldn' thear it out the front anymore
[06:16] <aram_> h1st0: that could teach me linux from fundumental
[06:16] <Mini-Me> nickrud:  well technically, I'm actually porting some settings over to a second box, so I'm not wanting to backup everything :)  this is something I'll be doing on a regular basis as I move from house to house every few days (run a script to backup to a MyBook, then back to each computer).  If I backed up ALL of home, I could run into some nasty version mismatch problems, especially if I try another distro :o
[06:16] <h1st0> aram_: google
[06:16] <mrdinkles> Flannel: How can i find the Pathname to that partition
[06:16] <aram_> h1st0: thanks a lot
[06:17] <keithclark> sainzeo, like I said, thanks for your help here.  I am not going to delete Ubuntu just yet.  I will try for another day to solve the problems.
[06:17] <aram_> could you please help me how could i type I
[06:17] <ifireball> aram_: http://www.linuxcommand.org/ <- a good place to start
[06:17] <sainzeo> keithclark, sounds good - sorry again i couldn't help ya out
[06:17] <greenmanspirit> sainzeo, I dont have a front option
[06:17] <aram_> ifireball: thanks a lot
[06:17] <nickrud> Mini-Me, ah. Well, nearly all the gnome settings are kept in that dir. if you run gconf-editor, you can browse through the settings, and the tree on the left matches the directory structure. That way you can find what you want to carry over
[06:17] <Flannel> mrdinkles: there is no pathname to that partition.  the pathname is (hd0,2)  You must need something else.  Like root and kernel lines
[06:18] <greenmanspirit> what the weird thing is, it used to work
[06:18] <aram_> i dont know who but some one send me a massage which how i could fix my graphic card
[06:18] <mrdinkles> Flannel: what should i put for Kernal?
[06:18] <aram_> and it says to type lspci I grep vgn
[06:18] <Flannel> mrdinkles: That depends on what youre trying to boot.  Really you should consult their documentation on all of that.
[06:18] <aram_> i dont know how to type I because know i am using i letter
[06:19] <aram_> the letter i need to type is near number 1 on keyboard
[06:19] <Mini-Me> nickrud:  thanks!  I'll check that out.  Since mouse settings are specific to Gnome, that raises some interesting questions:  If I installed KDE and Gnome, would the settings used depend on the active window (KDE or Gnome app) or the active desktop environment (i.e. if I run Amarok in Gnome, it would use Gnome's mouse settings)?
[06:19] <nickrud> Mini-Me, desktop settings
[06:19] <Flannel> Mini-Me: I suspect the latter
[06:19] <aram_> can any one help please?
[06:19] <paxton> When I run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and set some of the video modes, NONE of them show up in screen resolution
[06:20] <paxton> What am i doing wrong?
[06:20] <bazhang> aram_: what is the problem?
[06:20] <Dombre> I have a problem.  When trying to install my nvidea driver via the restricted drivers manager I got an error:  you need to install the package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-server for this program to work.  Upon searching for the package in synaptic I was unable to find it.  I'm working with ubuntu 7.10 64bit. any ideas?
[06:20] <soldats> paxton, i did that as well and they didnt show up either but it worked so i left it
[06:20] <aram_> bazhang:  i just want to type I but using the key near number one on keyboard
[06:20] <nickrud> Dombre, run a different kernel. the server kernel doesn't have the video drivers
[06:20] <aso> http://milou.myminicity.com/
[06:21] <aram_> bozhang: i dont know how to do it
[06:21] <paxton> But my screen is still at 800X600
[06:21] <aram_> and i am using i letter currently
[06:21] <JensenDied> lame kernel update and modules changing...
[06:21] <paxton> I still cant see much and  I just cannot get a higher resolution
[06:21] <bazhang> aram_: near number one? the ~ character? there are several near the 1 on the keyboard :}
[06:21] <aram_> bazhang: yes
[06:21] <ifireball> Mini-Me: that really depends on how the particular setting is implemented, for example I expect mouse settings to be desktop-global, however theme settings may depend on which environment the app is built upon
[06:21] <soldats> paxton, when you selected the res setting did you use the spacebar to select it. if so it should have used the selected setting
[06:22] <alain> guys i enabled the restricted driver but wen i restart it says its running on low-graphics screen graphic card could not be detected... how can i fix this
[06:22] <paxton> yes I used the spacebar and it marked it with a star
[06:22] <soldats> wierd
[06:22] <paxton> then I hit tab then ok
[06:22] <aram_> bazhang: because if i just press it ,it type ` and if i hold shift it type ¬
[06:22] <bazhang> aram_: what keyboard layout do you have? qwerty? you may need to adjust that if so
[06:22] <aram_> i can not type I
[06:22] <Dombre> nickrud:  How does one go about changing there kernel, all I've ever done is used the automatic updater.
[06:23] <soldats> i havent done it in a wile id have to look at it,
[06:23] <aram_> bazhang: it is dell and it is qwerty?
[06:23] <soldats> sorry but i gotta sleep
[06:23] <aram_> how could i adjust it/
[06:23] <aram_> bazhang: how could i adjust it?
[06:23] <Mini-Me> nickrud, flannel, ifireball:  thanks...I still haven't actually found my perfect sensitivity yet, but I'm working on it, and I was wanting to make sure I could transfer the settings back and forth between boxes.  It's only a moderate concern with regular desktop stuff, but in Windows, I know that Windows mouse settings greatly affected sensitivity in games.  Is this generally the case in Linux?  Do Linux games tend to take into account d
[06:23] <Mini-Me> esktop environment mouse settings, or do they ignore them in favor of more direct input?
[06:23] <bazhang> aram_: is it qwery? are you asking me or telling me? check the keyboard layout settings and adjust if so
[06:24] <nickrud> Dombre, you can look for linux-generic in synaptic and install that. That will pull in a kernel that has restricted drivers, and the restricted drivers themselves. When you reboot, you would choose the generic kernel in the boot menu. If it says starting grub and you don't see a choice, press escape
[06:24] <aram_> bazhang: it is qwerty
[06:24] <aram_> bazhang: how could i do that in linux ubuntu
[06:24] <bazhang> aram_: what about language? it may be set to another language
[06:24] <aram_> bazhang: uk
[06:24] <Dombre> nickrud thanks.
[06:25] <ifireball> Mini-Me: that depends on the game, many games use SDL which bypasses the DE to go directly to the GFX hardware and therefore may also ignore DE mouse settings
[06:25] <nickrud> Mini-Me, don't play many games in linux, so I don't have any opinion on that. I seem to have to change the settings to different values on different machines, though
[06:25] <ToddEDM> hey guys, im trying to get my wifi working, i just formatted and installed Ubuntu... now when i go into Restricted drivers, i see broadcom 43xx ... but when i try to enale it, it says that the software source for this package is not enabled.... could someone help me please <--noob
[06:25] <aram_> ok thanks a lot every single thing was so useful
[06:25] <aram_> thansk
[06:25] <aram_> have good night
[06:25] <aram_> bye
[06:26] <sainzeo> ToddEDM: sounds like software repositories aren't enabled - go to System - Administration - Software Sources
[06:26] <nickrud> ToddEDM, system->admin->software sources, make sure the first 4 items are selected
[06:26] <ifireball> Mini-Me: when it comes to mouse, there is a difference between where the settings are stored and what the actually are in runtime, what the DE does is store the settings in its own file, and send a command to Xorg to implement the settings when the DE starts
[06:27] <ToddEDM> Thanks guys... im trying it now
[06:27] <ifireball> Mini-Me: some games change the mouse settings with a similar command when they start up
[06:27] <mempman> does anybody know of ALSA-driver respository online somewhereee?
[06:27] <ifireball> Mini-Me: games may also run in different screen resolution which would require different settings
[06:28] <mochaRHW> Has anyone using Ubuntu ever seen the Gnome menus get totally corrupted?
[06:28] <paxton> can someone tell me how to install "`xserver-xorgxrandr"?
[06:28] <paxton> its a package I think
[06:28] <mempman> anybody..?
[06:28] <Mini-Me> ifireball, that makes sense - I had kind of been wondering why the settings were Gnome-specific (and not in xorg.conf).  That's a good sign for games, though - it would definitely be a comforting thought if I knew that the same settings in "game x" resulted in the same control on different systems
[06:28] <amedx> maybe I
[06:28] <ifireball> mempman: the alas developers site has a huge repository with compatibility charts/etc.
[06:28] <Mini-Me> ifireball - of course, nickrud has apparently had different experiences, so either my hopes are misplaced or it's very game-dependent
[06:28] <paxton> does anyone have the package`xserver-xorgxrandr?
[06:29] <bazhang> mempman:  a google search turned up nothing? would you like me to try my google-fu?
[06:29] <ifireball> mempman: alsa*
[06:29] <mempman> yes alsa
[06:29] <mempman> im looking for debian repository for latest release
[06:29] <mempman> so that i can install via package manager
[06:29] <amedx> how install java jre in ubuntu 64 bits?
[06:30] <bazhang> paxton: an apt-cache search xserver will give you a list of packages; packages.ubuntu.com will show some items as well
[06:30] <nickrud> Mini-Me, no, nothing ifireball disagrees with what I said, I'm talking about different screen sizes, different base sensitivity of mice, that kind of thing. Not how the software messes around on top of that
[06:30] <amedx> i hate 64 bits version
[06:30] <biabia> hi. i installed dvd decrypter in wine but its not detecting my cdrom/dvdroms, and none of the interface options in devd decrypter make it detect the drives either. something to do with ASAPI or ATAPI
[06:31] <sonja> how do i set my mouse wheel to scroll more text at a time in firefox?
[06:31] <ifireball> Mini-Me: actually, you can place mouse settings in xorg.conf but gnome/kde will override them (other DEs may not though)
[06:31] <Mini-Me> nickrud - good point - I forgot about how different mouse hardware behaves differently
[06:31] <macogw> what does this mean?  Dec 21 01:31:41 downstairs kernel: [  481.661554] device-mapper: ioctl: error adding target to table
[06:31] <amedx> ciao bambini
[06:32] <TNDT> hey, im having problems with the temperature on my acer laptop, and i was just wondering what kind of temperature monitoring and fan control software there is out there
[06:32] <ToddEDM> hey guys , i was having problems withthat broadcom 43xx driver... well i checked those 4 boxes in Software sources, still same thing... i cant get it working
[06:32] <Mini-Me> nickrud:  I just noticed the directory you led me to has an xml file with mouse settings, but it only mentions accleration (and a few other settings), not sensitivity.  How did you locate this in the first place?  I might have to do a bit more poking around in the same general area...
[06:32] <nickrud> amedx, I used this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435
[06:33] <drgeb> what does this mean ? (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-1
[06:33] <nickrud> Mini-Me, use that gconf-editor I mentioned. Only the things you actually changed will show up there
[06:34] <nickrud> drgeb, it means that when X tried to read the monitor specs directly from the monitor, it couldn't
[06:34] <drgeb> why is X trying to do this and can I turn this off ?
[06:34] <nickrud> ToddEDM, is that machine on the net?
[06:34] <nickrud> ToddEDM, I think it needs to be to download the firmware
[06:34] <Mini-Me> nickrud:  oh, right...and actually, the sensitivity might be in there after all, if it's "motion_threshold" - I'll install that package right now though.
[06:35] <ToddEDM> no... i cant get my wifi working, thats what the driver is for
[06:35] <nickrud> Mini-Me, it's already installed, just run it from the terminal. Or, right click the menu bar and turn on the menu item
[06:35] <Mini-Me> hehe
[06:35] <Mini-Me> nickrud:  just noticed that :)
[06:35] <ToddEDM> ok , actually i think i have it on a usb stick here somewhere .... maaaaaybe, i think i did that last time
[06:35] <nickrud> Mini-Me, under apps->system
[06:36] <drgeb> nickrud why is X trying to do this and can I turn this off ?
[06:36] <ifireball> drgeb: you can turn that off by adding Option "UseEdid" "false" to your "Device" section in xorg.conf
[06:36] <nickrud> !wifi | ToddEDM then you'll need this page, there are instructions on how to do it on an unconnected machine
[06:36] <ubotu> ToddEDM then you'll need this page, there are instructions on how to do it on an unconnected machine: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:37] <nickrud> drgeb, see ifireball :)
[06:37] <ifireball> drgeb: that is, assuming you use Nvidia
[06:37] <nickrud> ToddEDM, unless you can wire it up temporarily (that's what I did)
[06:38] <drgeb> ifireball yes I am using nvidia and amd64 and I am having many strange issues with gdm login in using compiz and mythtv frontend
[06:38] <mempman> so, anybody?
[06:38] <TNDT> hey, im having problems with the temperature on my acer laptop, and i was just wondering what kind of temperature monitoring and fan control software there is out there
[06:39] <drgeb> nickrud ifireball let me reboot and see if this first solves this worning brb
[06:39] <ifireball> drgeb: I suspect the EDID thing may just be a side-effect and not the main problem then
[06:39] <amidaniel|away> TNDT: Look at sensors and gkrellm
[06:39] <nickrud> drgeb, no need to reboot, just log out and back in
[06:39] <ifireball> drgeb: no need to reboot, just restart GDM
[06:39] <paxton> I need a package called lbxutil aparently and there is nothing on google/ubuntu
[06:40] <ifireball> nickrud: log/out/in may not actually restart X (it depends...)
[06:40] <TNDT> ok, thanks amidaniel|away
[06:40] <nickrud> ifireball, does here, but you're right to suggest gdm restart. I sometimes mention the three finger salute just in case
[06:40] <paxton> how can I get the package lbxutil?
[06:40] <bazhang> amidaniel|away: you might want to change your nick from away...
[06:41] <AJ> guys in enable the restricted driver.. but i still get low-graphic mode.. it says screen graphic cant detect hardware... how can i fix this
[06:41] <ifireball> nickrud: like I said, it depends, I also seen it change between Ubuntu versions... but yeah, 3-finger works
[06:41]  * amidaniel|away is away, I swear! :)
[06:41] <nickrud> paxton, do you mean xutil ?
[06:41] <paxton> Yes
[06:41] <paxton> is there an apt-get for that?
[06:42] <Mini-Me> nickrud, ifireball, flannel:  thanks guys - that's all I needed, and it's time for bed now! :)
[06:42] <nickrud> paxton, it is already, it's a normal part of X . Are you trying to compile something?
[06:42] <paxton> yes
[06:43] <nickrud> ifireball, that's why I mention the three finger, I still see breezy now and then here
[06:43] <AJ> guys in enable the restricted driver.. but i still get low-graphic mode.. it says screen graphic cant detect hardware... how can i fix this
[06:43] <paxton> No package 'lbxutil' found
[06:43] <ifireball> nickrud: do you notice that despite all the failsafe stuff we're still spending most of the time here debugging video trouble...?
[06:43] <nickrud> ifireball, lol, yes, that's how I got sucked in, that and media :)
[06:44] <pazu> Hi everyone. I would like to know if anyone here know how to perform the proper procedure in order to save settings to USB while running Ubuntu 7.10 LiveCD persistence (on CD)
[06:44] <nickrud> AJ, which restricted driver?
[06:44] <pazu> I tried the online community document but no luck.
[06:44] <AJ> nickrud: nvidia
[06:44] <bazhang> pazu: you should check out pendrivelinux.com for that
[06:44] <nickrud> AJ, I don't know nvidia, I'm ati only these days
[06:45] <pazu> i actually checked out the fix offer by pendrivelinux, but still nothing.  but if i plug that USB with a 6.06.1 ubuntu, it works
[06:46] <bazhang> pazu: I would suspect that the error is on your end; those folks really know their stuff--I have botched a usb key deal many a time before getting it right
[06:46] <fwaokda> im having to do: "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" && "sudo depmod -a" everytime i boot up to make my wireless work does anyone know a way around this?
[06:46] <ifireball> AJ: lets start with the basics, which Nvidia card do you have?
[06:46] <nickrud> fwaokda, add   ndiswrapper   on a line by itself in /etc/modules
[06:46] <AJ> gforceFX
[06:47] <AJ> ifireball: nvidia GeForceFx
[06:47] <ifireball> AJ: ok, you're getting to the failsafe screen?
[06:47] <fwaokda> nickrud: alright im new to all this but let me take a peek at it and see if i can figure it out! ty
[06:47] <AJ> yes
[06:47] <nickrud> fwaokda, soon as you see it, you'll see example lines :)
[06:48] <ifireball> AJ: can you paste the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin?
[06:48] <AJ> it says ubuntu is running on low graphic mode..screen graphic cant detect device
[06:48] <pazu> bazhang: alright. is there a way to check which part having the error during the process? because i followed their step competely, even the fixed from pendrivelinux - having to create a new modified OS LiveCD. Everything is covered up by graphic, i couldn't find anywhere to tell me the error
[06:48] <AJ> k wait
[06:48] <fwaokda> nickrud: did you mean /etc/modutils ?
[06:48] <fwaokda> nickrud: i dont have a /etc/modules
[06:48] <fwaokda> errr nvrmind
[06:48] <pazu> I am sure the USB i created is right, because it work off the bat with Ubuntu 6.06.1 LiveCD
[06:48] <fwaokda> nickrud, i made a goof
[06:49] <bazhang> pazu: you want to boot from usb? or install from usb? or something other
[06:49] <nickrud> fwaokda, used to be, that file had *lots* of entries, someday it might actually disappear for real :)
[06:49] <pazu> bazhang, I want to right from CD, but only save the setting to USB.
[06:49] <pazu> bazhang, I want to run from CD, but only save the setting to USB.
[06:50] <bazhang> pazu: okay; boot from livecd and save to usb? is that the gist of it?
[06:50] <pazu> bazhang: i created my casper-rw usb using Ubuntu 7.10, but couldn't make it work. but if i put in my 6.06.1 CD, it work with that USB
[06:50] <ifireball> AJ: xorg.conf as well please
[06:50] <pazu> bazhang: eys
[06:50] <pazu> bazhang: yes
[06:50] <bazhang> haha
[06:51] <fwaokda> nickrud: so i just add "ndiswrapper" to the list there? and that should fix my problem?
[06:51] <GodBressAmericka> does anybody here want to make the holiday season special for a young boy? a young wide eyed boy?
[06:51] <wasabi_> anyone know any repo with evolution 2.21.4?
[06:51] <wasabi_> i'm having trouble building evolution-data-server from svn
[06:51] <nickrud> fwaokda, yes, that's a list of modules that for whatever reason don't get loaded automatically by the kernel on demand
[06:51] <chraso> >wols< i gets this output when run ps aux |grep -i xgl "chraso 6610 0.0 0.0 2880 744 pts/0..... xgl
[06:51] <GodBressAmericka> WHERE IS AN OINK REFUGEE SUPPOSED TO GO!?!?!!
[06:51] <nickrud> fwaokda, so the startup reads that and loads them in
[06:51] <portablejim> I am running a small buisness doing tasks for people for a price (eg, printing and Burning CDs).  In component main, is optional. Version 2.12.1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 2461 kB, installed size 7868 kB
[06:53] <wasabi_> yes i know
[06:53] <wasabi_> i have 2.12.1
[06:54] <bazhang> then the answer would be no wasabi
[06:54] <chraso> >wols_< i gets this output when run ps aux |grep -i xgl "chraso 6610 0.0 0.0 2880 744 pts/0..... xgl
[06:54] <pazu> Just for reference, here are the two links with instruction i followed.
[06:54] <pazu> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence?highlight=%28livecd%29%7C%28persistence%29
[06:54] <pazu> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/27/making-ubuntu-710-casper-persistent/
[06:54] <wasabi_> bazhang, i've checked before asking. that's why i'm asking
[06:56] <AJ> ifireball: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49130/
[06:56] <ifireball> AJ: ok.
[06:57] <andy_> does anyone here do I.T. work
[06:57] <mrdinkles> Using Ubuntu 7.10, Have a second Partition sda3 to be used as a boot option in grub-- I need to find out the Kernal file path-- how can i find this?
[06:57] <mochaRHW> can anyone in here answer question about the Gnone menus and alacarte's stability?
[06:57] <fwaokda> nickrud, thanks man that worked like a charm
[06:58] <nickrud> fwaokda, yw
[06:58] <andy_> not speciffically, but i do think gnome is a little bit bloated
[06:58] <andy_> try KDE
[06:58] <ifireball> AJ: hmm... that's the log for the failsafe mode, it doesn't show your problem...
[06:59] <ToddEDM> ok guys , i got my WIFI working...thanks... now whats the easiest way to update everything?
[06:59] <ifireball> when are you getting the error message, when you try to set nvidia and hit "test" ?
[06:59] <chraso> someone help me with my ATI Readon Xpress 200 on fiesty 7.05 with fglrx driver given in the disto dvd. when i installs the drivers and tries to start the desktop-effects it says "The composite extension not available"
[06:59] <andy_> use adept manager
[06:59] <mochaRHW> I had a problem where the Gnome applications menu got totally corrupted for no reason
[06:59] <tabman> there is a reported problem with some mouse, after a kernel upgrade whether its Ubuntu or OpenSUSE, the mouse cannot control the cursor, I don't know if its a driver issue or what ?
[06:59] <chraso> 7.04
[06:59] <ifireball> andy_: no starting flamewars
[07:00] <mochaRHW> I had to go into the applications.menu file and manually edit it to get it back to normal
[07:00] <andy_> my bad
[07:00] <nickrud> ToddEDM,  sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[07:00] <fwaokda> anyone have a nice theme they use in ubuntu they could show me? im on the lookout for a new theme
[07:00] <cristhian> i have a problem with wine.  i cant play a flash player under wine.. any help?
[07:00] <alex__> wtf
[07:00] <ToddEDM> ok, nickrud ..thanks
[07:00] <keitherz> ok
[07:00] <andy_> you can use flashplayer in ubuntu without wine
[07:00] <bazhang> pazu: I read those threads--the persistence is not working? did you hit f6 and add option persistent?
[07:00] <ifireball> AJ: when are you getting the error message, when you try to set nvidia and hit "test" ?
[07:00] <keitherz> if i build my own GTK
[07:00] <AJ> here from the start.. i try to install the driver from the nvidia site.. it works .. but wen i restart.. it display low graphic and screen graphic not detected..
[07:01] <ifireball> andy_: yes.
[07:01] <nickrud> ToddEDM, for terminal types :) Otherwise, you'll see an orange thingo in your task bar when updates are available, click it
[07:01] <keitherz> would it replace my currently installed from apt-get
[07:01] <AJ> now i re enable the restricted driver and still dont fix
[07:01] <ifireball> AJ: why did you install from nvidia instead of from Ubuntu? the nvidia install pretty much breaks stuff in Ubuntu afaik...
[07:01] <keitherz> because i need to pu a patch in GTK
[07:02] <AJ> so wat can i possibly do to fix this ..
[07:02] <falieson> during the ubuntu install - can I setup a software raid?
[07:02] <cristhian> are there repositories for wine ?
[07:02] <nickrud> keitherz, if you're looking to patch gtk, you really should look at how ubuntu packages are put together, so you can create a package with your patch.
[07:03] <nickrud> !packaging
[07:03] <ubotu> The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[07:03] <AJ> are there any fix for this problem ?
[07:03] <ifireball> AJ: we need to somehow get the right error log so we can understand whats happening
[07:03] <keitherz> nickrud where can i see that
[07:03] <ifireball> AJ: can you set it to use the "nv" driver 1st?
[07:03] <AJ> i did
[07:03] <nickrud> keitherz, I gave a link look just above
[07:03] <keitherz> any link on how packages are built
[07:04] <keitherz> oh sry
[07:04] <devilin> can anyone help me get my wireless network card to work?
[07:04] <nickrud> keitherz, np :)
[07:04] <ifireball> AJ: does it work? the log file you pasted seems to indicate you're using the VESA driver
[07:04] <andy_> devilin.... what kind of card do you have
[07:04] <nickrud> !wifi | devilin
[07:04] <ubotu> devilin: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:04] <keitherz> nickrud thanks
[07:05] <liyang_> Bloody hell this channel is busy. :3
[07:05] <andy_> does anyone have experience with packet sniffing?
[07:05] <liyang_> (stupid autojoin. :p)
[07:05] <AJ> there are 2        Driver          "nv"
[07:05] <nickrud> keitherz, you will be very happy you did, since you can then easily back it out if you ever want to
[07:05] <AJ> i change it.. ok let me try it
[07:05] <fwaokda> how do i get the menu bar on the bottom to look like the one here? http://phorolinux.com/quick-tip-installing-ubuntu-studio-theme-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html
[07:05] <nickrud> liyang_, crowded, not always busy :)
[07:06] <liyang_> nickrud: yeah, that's probably what I meant. :3
[07:06] <ifireball> AJ: paste xorg.cong + log file when you're done plz
[07:06] <ifireball> AJ: e.g. xorg.conf
[07:06] <ifireball> andy_: yes...
[07:07] <andy_> ifireball, you have experience with packet sniffing?
[07:07] <nickrud> fwaokda, install avant-window-navigator , then alt-f2 avant-window-navigator
[07:07] <drgeb> nickrud That got rid of the WW about EID that I saw however now I am seeing and EE  Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[07:07] <keitherz> nickrud, so when they build packages they are default
[07:07] <nickrud> drgeb, I don't know much about nvidia, sorry
[07:07] <ifireball> andy_: yeah, using wireshark
[07:08] <andy_> yep
[07:08] <keitherz> cause when i build i need to replace the existing one
[07:08] <andy_> i have been using it for awile, but i have allways wanted to find out how to get text out of the packets
[07:08] <anditosan> hey, I am trying to connect to a wireless network, I got the password and it is 3 feet away from me and I can't connect
[07:08] <andy_> well i have just been experimenting really
[07:08] <anditosan> help me please
[07:08] <nickrud> keitherz, yes. you replace the existing one with your new one. This way you don't have stray files mucking up your system.
[07:08] <devilin> the broadcom43xx restricted driver seemed to work but then it would not allow me to connect to my home wireless network
[07:09] <ToddEDM> does anyone find ubuntu to be less stable than XP?
[07:09] <ifireball> andy_: you can right-click any TCP packet and select "follow TCP stream"
[07:09] <ToddEDM> or is it just me?
[07:09] <andy_> thanks
[07:09] <keitherz> nickrud: so i dont have to use --prefix=
[07:09] <falieson> can I setup a software raid from the ubuntu install?
[07:09] <Ali_ix> ToddEDM: no OS can be foon and bullet proof :) trust me! every one can mess an OS in less than five minutes :)
[07:09] <nickrud> keitherz, all that is preset in the package. You'd add your patch to the patching system in the package, and when you build it the patch would be automatically applied. All the dirty stuff is done for you
[07:10] <Ali_ix> *fool
[07:10] <ifireball> andy_: note that it'll setup a filter  so you'll see only packets of that stream, you'll need to clear it if you want to see other packets afterwards
[07:10] <keitherz> nickrud: no my patch is to edit one file in the source
[07:10] <ogre>  I installed all packages for ubuntustudio from synaptic from a previous ubuntu install now my wireless isnt working. I have an ipw3945. any ideas what it could be?
[07:10] <nickrud> keitherz, any special configure options used to meld it with other software are already set
[07:10] <nickrud> keitherz, exactly.
[07:11] <andy_> thanks, so you will be able to see text of what is being sent
[07:11] <keitherz> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=463773
[07:11] <andy_> i am trying to learn at home where nothing i do is wrong. I just want to learn how things work
[07:12] <devilin> has anyone else had problems getting a broadcom wireless adapter (mine is built into my laptop). The restricted driver does not fix my connectivity issues.
[07:12] <ifireball> andy_: please type my name when you talk to me, you'll, see the text unless its encrypted
[07:12] <Memot> I asked this question before, but i want to make sure of it. Can i run Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon as a live CD on my Windows XP computer, not from a CD, but from the computer itself? If i can, how so, the file i DL says Ubuntu 7.10-desktopxxxx.RAR, i though they were supposed to be a .iso file so i could burn them on a CD. (Sorry for my bad English)
[07:12] <fwaokda> how do i search for packages i can download/install in terminal
[07:12] <fwaokda> devilin, umm i just got through setting mine up ha... i just dont really know what i did to fix it :(
[07:12] <dryrot> how do i get xfce4 to work as my window manager for vnc ?
[07:13] <nickrud> keitherz, enable the source repos (system->admin->software sources) then do apt-get source <what was it again?> in a clean directory, look around
[07:13] <Ali_ix> Memot: .rar? where did you got it? :|
[07:13] <keitherz> ok
[07:13] <smultron> fwaokda: sudo aptitude search <package name>
[07:13] <andy_> ifireball_: is that better
[07:13] <fwaokda> thanks smultron
[07:13] <Memot> www.ubuntu.com
[07:13] <Ali_ix> fwaokda: use aptitude search PACKAGE coomand
[07:13] <ifireball> andy_: yeah
[07:13] <devilin> fwaokda, lol funny but not exactly helpful
[07:14] <nickrud> keitherz, gtk+2.0 is the source package
[07:14] <Memot> Oh.
[07:14] <keitherz> thanks
[07:14] <fwaokda> devilin, sry i didn't mean anything by it which one you have 4311?
[07:14] <ifireball> http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2007-12-20-025-26-NW-MS-LL <- great news to mixed env sysadmins
[07:14] <andy_> ifireball_: can you see other traffic, such as web traffic in plain text or just tcp?
[07:14] <keitherz> i found the patching system guide
[07:14] <tabman> ?
[07:14] <devilin> fwaokda, lol it is ok i am not mad. did you use ndiswrapper?
[07:14] <Memot> God, sorry for any trouble i caused you. My mistake.
[07:15] <fwaokda> ya i did
[07:15] <nickrud> keitherz, it's been a few years since I modified a package, so if I say much beyond this, I'd almost certainly get it wrong :)
[07:15] <andy_> ifireball_: so it works with https traffic?
[07:15] <ifireball> andy_: well, its a little hard to follow UDP, most important stuff with any meaningful amounts of text is TCP anyway (web is TCP y'know...)
[07:15] <Scusio> hi, i've just installed ubuntu 7.04 with dual boot, everything works fine except i dont have internet on ubuntu, but when i switch to windows i do have internet, any1 got an idea?
[07:15] <steelwolf> Hi i have only 2 files listed on http://<IP_ADDRESS>/dl/ but when i did ls -l there's other 2 tar files but its not showing up.is it permission problem?i have it all chmod 777
[07:15] <fwaokda> devilin, and had to add it to /etc/modules for it to work on boot up
[07:15] <andy_> ifireball_:
[07:16] <ifireball> andy_: you wouldn't be able to see HTTPS becasue its encrypted, you'll just see "junk"
[07:16] <Ali_ix> Scusio: what is your connection type?
[07:16] <fwaokda> devilin, if you dont add it to modules then you have to do modprobe ndiswrapper or something like that to get it to pick up
[07:16] <Ali_ix> Scusio: adsl, local network, wireless?
[07:16] <steelwolf> Hi i have only 2 files listed on http://<IP_ADDRESS>/dl/ but when i did ls -l there's other 2 tar files but its not showing up.is it permission problem?i have it all chmod 777
[07:16] <andy_> ifireball_: do you know of an IRC channel that is dedicated to sniffing and web security?
[07:16] <devilin> fwaokda, i see.... that is what i did the first time i got this laptop to work.... i will have to look up the ndiswrapper setup section in the forums again i suppose.
[07:17] <Ali_ix> steelwolf: what is file name? does the two hidden files start with "."? do you set any extra rule in apache conf?
[07:17] <ifireball> andy_: nope
[07:17] <fwaokda> devilin, sry im new to linux stuff but i did somehow get it to work with some other ppl helping me
[07:17] <steelwolf> Ali_ix, there isnt
[07:17] <steelwolf> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 376657920 Dec 21 07:52 lester.tar
[07:17] <devilin> fwaokda, what precisely did you add to the /ect/modules ? just so i can get an idea
[07:17] <tabman> can anyone help me with the mouse problem please ?
[07:17] <steelwolf> something like this
[07:17] <jackal_> can someone help,  i installed flash plugin but it keeps telling me to install flash when i click install it tells me its already installed i rebooted but it doesnt go away
[07:17] <andy_> has anyone tried anything but ubuntu?
[07:18] <carenet> how do i install plugins
[07:18] <redd0t> tabman: whats the problem
[07:18] <fwaokda> devilin, "ndiswrapper"
[07:18] <redd0t> andy: i ran gentoo a while back
[07:18] <daryl_> hey guys, I removed compiz from my system but now there is no window manager starting only gnome, I have to force metacity to launch, how do I fix this?
[07:18] <Scarey> andy_, yes.. lots
[07:18] <keitherz> whats the package name for gtk+2
[07:18] <Ali_ix> steelwolf: no idea, try the #ubuntu-server channel :)
[07:18] <macd> daryl_, add it to your session
[07:18] <ifireball> andy_: you name it...
[07:18] <hunteke> question re: the new init: does it actually improve startup time?
[07:18] <nickrud> keitherz, should be gtk+2.0
[07:18] <fwaokda> im trying to install avant-window-navigator but its giving me an error about unmet dependencies... how do i get around this?
[07:18] <redd0t> i also tried to use fedora, but i got tired of it too quickly
[07:18] <macd> System --> preferences --> sessions
[07:18] <daryl_> macd, is there a non gui way of doing this?
[07:18] <redd0t> and knoppix was my first
[07:18] <andy_> red0t: i have used suse, fedora, ubuntu, and knoppix
[07:19] <keitherz> no it wont work nickrud
[07:19] <Ali_ix> !flashissues
[07:19] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads.
[07:19] <andy_> oh and mandriva
[07:19] <devilin> fwaokda, ok cool thanks for the help i am off to find the ndiswrapper i used before.... i think i will ask around here for someone to give em a hand two but hearing that you used ndiswrapper was very helpful
[07:19] <hunteke> I know the event based system makes things easier to deal with devices that are constantly coming and going, but how about speed of startup and shutdown
[07:19] <redd0t> oooo suse.. i used to get into arguements with my housemate over mandriva.
[07:19] <nickrud> fwaokda, system->admin->software sources, enable the first 4 items
[07:19] <hunteke> I haven't noticed a significant speedup on my box
[07:19] <hunteke> any one else?
[07:19] <macd> daryl_, umm, off hand I'm not sure, most likely, .xsession
[07:19] <daryl_> OK
[07:19] <daryl_> THANKS
[07:19] <andy_> i love fedora, but it does not offer great wireless support
[07:19] <fwaokda> devilin,  np gluck i'll be around i think for awhile maybe there is something else i remember that might help you
[07:20] <andy_> i run fedora 8 on my desktop
[07:20] <fwaokda> nickrud, ok i'll try that
[07:20] <nickrud> keitherz, system->admin->software sources, enable the source repo
[07:20] <devilin> can anyone help me set up ndiswrapper to use a windows driver to get my broadcom43xxx wireless adapter to work
[07:20] <Symmetria> whats the ubuntu offtopic channel?
[07:20] <glaucous> I need some help with crontab, my entries don't seem to be running :(
[07:20] <redd0t> i always get tired of fedora after like 3 hours
[07:20] <odracir34> wtf is fedora 8
[07:20] <Scusio> euhm
[07:20] <ifireball> macd: .xsession != gnome session... making such a file will probably break his system...
[07:20] <andy_> it is a different linux opperating system
[07:20] <fwaokda> nickrud, the first four are already checked :(
[07:20] <Memot> odracir34: different Linux OS
[07:21] <odracir34> i see
[07:21] <redd0t> last time i think it was the no filesystem support for xfs by default. and kde wasnt in the default repos
[07:21] <keitherz> oh poof i forgot i disable it
[07:21] <FAJALOU4197> im wondering about mp3's and ubuntu.
[07:21] <Scusio> Ali_ix: im connected through i router
[07:21] <odracir34> and what is the problem woth ot
[07:21] <andy_> odracir34: are you new to linux?
[07:21] <Scusio> home network
[07:21] <FAJALOU4197> relatively
[07:21] <nickrud> fwaokda, strange, I got it just fine. do sudo aptitude install avant-window-navigator in a terminal, and put all the error stuff on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:21] <odracir34> yes i'm
[07:21] <glaucous> does cron keep a log or something?  my entries aren't running
[07:21] <fwaokda> k
[07:22] <odracir34> i have now running the 7.10 ubuntu desktop
[07:22] <redd0t> yeah, i keep coming back to ubuntu.
[07:22] <Ali_ix> Scusio: ok, how to you get IP in windows? dhcp? or static ip? if it is static one, you should set ip, gateway and dns settings in ubuntu, so you can access network and internet
[07:22] <andy_> odracir34: you might fall in love with it enough to dump windows
[07:22] <odracir34> and i have found al my tools i need to do illegaal stuf
[07:22] <andy_> lol
[07:22] <redd0t> hahah
[07:22] <Ali_ix> glaucous: cron can mail the user on failuers
[07:23] <andy_> odracir34: hacking?
[07:23] <redd0t> for that i just try to watch a dvd in mplayer
[07:23] <tabman> redd0t: here is a reported problem with some mouse, after a kernel upgrade whether its Ubuntu or OpenSUSE, the mouse cannot control the cursor, I don't know if its a driver issue or what ?
[07:23] <odracir34> i have dumpt windows
[07:23] <liyang_> andy_: If I didn't have to use Aperture I'd dump OS X, with the new Compiz in Gutsy.
[07:23] <fwaokda> nickrud, ok that worked. whats the differ between what you got me to type and this "sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator"
[07:23] <Ali_ix> !cron
[07:23] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[07:23] <glaucous> Ali_ix: thanks, but it's not even doing a touch
[07:23] <liyang_> (that was a lie.)
[07:23] <odracir34> i have format it
[07:23] <odracir34> i only use ubuntu
[07:23] <FAJALOU4197> mp3s
[07:23] <Ali_ix> !cron > glaucous
[07:23] <nickrud> fwaokda, nothing , they both do the same thing. If one works, the other should
[07:23] <ifireball> andy_: I think he means watching DVDs, playing MP3s, etc...
[07:23] <FAJALOU4197> what do you convert them to in ubuntu.
[07:23] <glaucous> Ali_ix: I've read the howtos
[07:23] <odracir34> its easy to work with.
[07:24] <odracir34> little diffrent
[07:24] <Ali_ix> glaucous: well, what is your command?
[07:24] <nickrud> fwaokda, just different front ends to the package management system
[07:24] <redd0t> tabman: okay. what mouse do you have. run lsmod and tell me what you see
[07:24] <kenboo> can I remove tracker package safely?
[07:24] <Ali_ix> glaucous: do you have the right syntax in file for times?
[07:24] <ifireball> FAJALOU4197: ogm
[07:24] <Varka> odracir34, but at least you can't smoke it ;)
[07:24] <glaucous> Ali_ix: * * * * * /usr/bin/touch /tmp/crontest
[07:24] <nickrud> kenboo, yes
[07:24] <fwaokda> nickrud, hmm well yours did i think... i cant find it though lol
[07:24] <macd> glaucous, have you looked at /var/log/syslog, it shows the cron runs
[07:24] <odracir34> Varka:  yes
[07:24] <FAJALOU4197> ifireball: i don't use ubuntu, but i have an mp3 player and was wondering if it would work
[07:24] <Memot> Is there any way to isten to mp3 in Ubuntu?
[07:24] <liyang_> (Compiz, or rather, its setup tool is still a bit buggy; but I'm impressed. Well done Canonical et al.)
[07:24] <glaucous> macd, I'll go check that out, thanks
[07:24] <Ali_ix> glaucous: * * * * *? are you sure? :}
[07:24] <nickrud> fwaokda, in that same terminal, type avan<tab> <-- hit the tab key
[07:24] <andy_> ifireball_: oh? lol. i will be an Computer Science major, but i have to get in my hacking spree every now and then. It has gotten better though
[07:24] <kenboo> nickrud: thanks.  this makes my machine so slow.
[07:24] <macd> !mp3 > Memot
[07:25] <odracir34> my english is not o good , i'm from holland the land of the weed and paddo's
[07:25] <nickrud> kenboo, I don't use it either
[07:25] <glaucous> Ali_ix, that's every minute, right?
[07:25] <Ali_ix> glaucous: * * * * * mean every second. minute, hour, day and month :}
[07:25] <FAJALOU4197> notice ifireball:test
[07:25] <redd0t> memot: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-mad or maybe its fluendo-mp3
[07:25] <glaucous> oh :)
[07:25] <glaucous> well, it still isn't working every second
[07:25] <Ali_ix> glaucous: :)
[07:25] <kenboo> nickrud: ah. hehe.
[07:25] <ifireball> FAJALOU4197: yeah, I don't think I understand what you're asking for
[07:25] <tabman> redd0t: I'm not on linux right now as its so difficult to the use the OS with a not working mouse
[07:25] <genesis> hello all  where do I put my downloads for my motherboard at on ubuntu 7.04?
[07:25] <macd> glaucous, yeah 1 * * * * is every minute
[07:26] <fwaokda> nickrud, nothing happens just a beep, after looking at the terminal after i type what you said it said it didn't find any packages
[07:26] <redd0t> tabman: what mouse do you have
[07:26] <odracir34> do i need a virus scanner for ubuntu or is o it so save im dont need it ?
[07:26] <glaucous> ok, but it isn't touching the file no matter how often it's supposed to
[07:26] <FAJALOU4197> ifireball; ok so i have a creative mp3 player, do you know if they work on ubuntu, and what do you use to play mp3s on ubuntu?
[07:26] <tabman> redd0t: iits a normal laser mouse
[07:26] <redd0t> tabman: what brand and model
[07:26] <tabman> redd0t: 3D Optical Mouse
[07:26] <Scusio> lol @ virusscanner
[07:26] <andy_> odracir34: you do not need a virus scanner, but clamv makes a nice one
[07:26] <B> list c++
[07:26] <ifireball> andy_: why don't you try doing something useful, like writing better AD support for Ubuntu...
[07:27] <tabman> redd0t: Twiser, chinese made
[07:27] <odracir34> i  see
[07:27] <redd0t> hmm..
[07:27] <Ali_ix> glaucous: try this for every five minutes: */5 *   * * *   | i was wrong about second, it starts with minute
[07:27] <redd0t> tabman: hang on
[07:27] <odracir34> and do i need a forrewall?
[07:27] <macd> glaucous, is that cron running as root? though I think /tmp would be fine as any users
[07:27] <odracir34> firrewall
[07:27] <glaucous> macd: I want it to run as root, yes.  currently it isn't running at all :(
[07:27] <macd> glaucous, k, so your editing crontab as root right?
[07:27] <tabman> redd0t: sure
[07:28] <glaucous> macd: sudo crontab -e
[07:28] <nickrud> fwaokda, one minute, my mind is sleepy
[07:28] <andy_> ifireball: well, ... that might be an idea. Looking through the colleges packets might be interesting and educational also... :)
[07:28] <ifireball> FAJALOU4197: I use Exile media player, the built-in players totem an rythmbox can also play MP3s with the right codecs installed
[07:28] <fwaokda> nickrud, np
[07:28] <FAJALOU4197> ifireball: do you know if that's compatible with most mp3 players
[07:28] <redd0t> tabman: in windows, does this mouse require special drivers, or does it run off of the generic mouse driver
[07:29] <macd> glaucous, let me try what your doing one sec, this a gutsy box?
[07:29] <tabman> redd0t: generic mouse driver
[07:29] <ifireball> FAJALOU4197: that really depends on your player, if it has mass USB storage support it'll be no problem
[07:29] <glaucous> macd: yes, gutsy
[07:29] <_Casey_> how come i cant "modprobe -r ipw3945" and switch to ipwraw
[07:29] <macd> works for me
[07:29] <andy_> redd0t, he might be using a bluetooth mouse that needs interface support
[07:29] <ifireball> FAJALOU4197: I suppose you should just try it with the live-CD
[07:29] <FAJALOU4197> ifireball: usb storage? no it's a harddrive player.
[07:29] <Pelchflum> I'm trying to blacklist prism2_usb so ndiswrapper won't spot it. I made the blacklist-prism2_usb file in modprobe.d, but to no avail. Can anyone give me advice? Thanks.
[07:29] <kraut> moin
[07:29] <FAJALOU4197> ifireball: true true.
[07:29] <macd> sudo crontab -e, then */1 * * * * /usr/bin/.......
[07:29] <nickrud> fwaokda, doh, I had to add another repository to install it.  I did   sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list , and added the line:  deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42/ gutsy avant-window-navigator    .  This is a third party repo, it's not signed so you will get a warning about authentication. Use at your own risk.
[07:29] <redd0t> tabman: is it a bluetooth mouse?
[07:30] <fwaokda> nickrud, k let me try that
[07:30] <tabman> redd0t: it used to work fine with older version of linux, the problem is with the newer versions I guess its to do with the kernel upgrade, no its not bluetooth mouse, connected through PS/2
[07:30] <glaucous> macd: ok, I added the /1.  I'll tell you in a minute if it works better
[07:30] <_Casey_> what all wifi apps are there
[07:30] <glaucous> but my real crons aren't running either
[07:30] <ToddEDM> ok another question guys... whats the easiest way to get all the plugins i will need to view stuff on the internet
[07:30] <andy_> _Casey_ what are you talking about?
[07:31] <ifireball> FAJALOU4197: mass USB storage support means it works like a USB pen drive, it doesn't have to be harddrive-based
[07:31] <tabman> redd0t: I used it fine with ubuntu 6.06
[07:31] <_Casey_> andy_ the ipw3945 question or after?
[07:31] <FAJALOU4197> ifireball: my mp3 player is harddrive
[07:32] <Memot> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras to be able to play MP3, DVD, Flash, Quicktime, WMA and WMV.
[07:32] <fwaokda> nickrud, ok now after adding that line i do the cmd from earlier?
[07:32] <ifireball> FAJALOU4197: well, like I said, just try it, that'll give you the best answer
[07:32] <_Casey_> andy_ ?
[07:32] <andy_> _Casey_ : gotcha
[07:32] <nickrud> !restricted | ToddEDM
[07:32] <redd0t> tabman: and you upgraded to 7.10 and it didnt? it might be a problem with your xorg.
[07:32] <ubotu> ToddEDM: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:32] <andy_> thinking....
[07:32] <fwaokda> it still says 0 packages instaled
[07:32] <FAJALOU4197> ifireball: ok, live cd you find that on the main site?
[07:32] <nickrud> fwaokda, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install avant-window-navigator
[07:32] <ifireball> FAJALOU4197: yes.
[07:32] <redd0t> tabman: xorg.conf
[07:32] <redd0t> tabman: sry its getting late.
[07:33] <_Casey_> i want to unload the ipw3945 driver and load ipwraw but it wont let me
[07:33] <andy_> sleep is for newbs.... lol
[07:33] <FAJALOU4197> ifireball: ok thank you, what about windows games, is there like an emulator or something?
[07:33] <tabman> redd0t: yeah it didn't work after upgrade either on Ubuntu or openSUSE 10.3, what is xorg.conf ? what to do with it
[07:33] <_Casey_> faj
[07:33] <_Casey_> use wine
[07:33]  * nickrud is going to bed in ...  10 minutes
[07:33] <_Casey_> winehq.org
[07:33] <glaucous> macd: it appears I didn't have a line break after that line so it didn't take.  I can't think of any situation where that behaviour would be desireable
[07:33] <fwaokda> nickrud, still no worky
[07:34] <redd0t> tabman: hmmm..... xorg.conf is the configuration file for the xorg server
[07:34] <thyko> hi
[07:34] <thyko> what can one not 'apt-get' on ubuntu64 right now?
[07:34] <ifireball> FAJALOU4197: that a hit or miss thing, some games work with wine (the emulator), some don't, some have native Ubuntu versions, it really depends on the game
[07:34] <redd0t> tabman: it resides in /etc
[07:34] <fwaokda> nickrud,  says no candidate version found
[07:34] <tabman> redd0t: and what do you want me to do with it ?
[07:34] <redd0t> tabman: idk.. im thinking
[07:34] <nickrud> fwaokda, did you do aptitude update ?
[07:34] <fwaokda> yes
[07:34] <macd> glaucous, nor can I, maybe you should test it again and submit a bug on launchpad.net/ubuntu
[07:34] <FAJALOU4197> ifireball: ok thank you, where are those found?
[07:35] <Memot> !google wine halo pc
[07:35] <glaucous> macd: but my two real entries above it still don't work :( :(
[07:35] <Memot> :-(
[07:35] <thyko> anyone on amd64 here?
[07:35] <fwaokda> me
[07:35] <chraso> where should i paste some outpur lines?
[07:35] <fwaokda> thyko, meh
[07:36] <ifireball> FAJALOU4197: there are games in the "Add/Remove" application in Ubuntu, also there is a lot of information in the Ubuntu wiki about games
[07:36] <nickrud> fwaokda, bummer. I just check for myself, and they've taken the package out of the repo. Sorry for the red herring, I got it less than a week ago
[07:36] <fwaokda> :(
[07:36] <redd0t> tabman: you might need to reconfigure the xserver, try running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in another virtual console.
[07:36] <glaucous> macd: /var/log/syslog says it completed successfully so I'm thinking it's not cron.  I'll investigate further
[07:36] <glaucous> macd, Ali_ix: thanks for your help
[07:36] <fwaokda> nickrud, where can i go get it then? im new to ubuntu idk where to look
[07:36] <macd> glaucous, thats pretty wierd, have you tried cleaning the whoe thing out by hitting crtl+k a few times
[07:36] <macd> glaucous, disregard that last line ;P
[07:36] <thyko> fwaokda: what critical apps are not on there?
[07:36] <FAJALOU4197> ifireball: alright thank you, i think i will try the live cd overbreak, im sick of windows, and also i have wireless, will that still work.
[07:36] <redd0t> tabman: it will prompt you in the terminal for your choices with hardware.
[07:37] <fwaokda> thyko, ! idk
[07:37] <ifireball> can anyone say why would I want to use AWM as oppsed to the normal Gnome panel?
[07:37] <tabman> redd0t: I'm not on linux right now, also my current linux installation is openSUSE10.3
[07:37] <cylence> is apt-get ubuntu-specific or at least the default app manager on ubuntu?
[07:37] <macd> ifireball, its eye candy, other than that Ithink gnome panel is a better interface
[07:37] <B> cylence: it's debain specific
[07:37] <redd0t> tabman: oh. i have never used SUSE.
[07:37] <macd> cylence, it comes from debian, and ubuntu is a debian derivitive
[07:37] <thyko> fwaokda: what?
[07:37] <cylence> B: ah, good to know!!
[07:38] <keitherz> what does pushd command do?
[07:38] <cylence> macd: and thank you as well
[07:38] <tabman> redd0t: but the problem is across all distro, faced it on Ubuntu as well as SUSE
[07:38] <nickrud> fwaokda, join #awn here for the latest, they may know a repo that's up
[07:38] <Sonic> apt-get works in all debian based distros
[07:38] <keitherz> and sed
[07:38] <nickrud> goodnight all
[07:38] <ifireball> FAJALOU4197: wireless depends on your card, some card "just work" other need some effort to get working, in any case year learning a whole new OS it'll take time a patience, but I think that eventually EVERYTHING can be made to work
[07:38] <cylence> I'm a tad unfamiliar with it. I understand "apt-get application", but I'm looking to upgrade apache2.0 to 2.2, is there an easy way to do this?
[07:39] <chraso> can anyone tell me the paste bin link?
[07:39] <macd> later nick
[07:39] <FAJALOU4197> ifireball: talk about irc noob, how do you notice?
[07:39] <fwaokda> thyko, im new to ubuntu idk what your talking about sry
[07:39] <Vaalth> hey, im having some problems playing audio in ubuntu. ive tried xmms, amarok, and rhythmbox
[07:39] <Vaalth> the sound is really quiet
[07:39] <thyko> oh
[07:39] <Vaalth> anyone have any ideas on what to do?
[07:39] <ifireball> FAJALOU4197: why would you want to do that
[07:39] <morghanphoenix> anyone know what driver I should use for 3d acceleration on a laptop with a nVidia Quadro NVS 120M video card?
[07:40] <tekcop> Vaalth, this may sound stupid, but did you check PCM volume?
[07:40] <B> cylence: try apt-get update apache2
[07:40] <redd0t> tabman: well the other option is xorgcfg from the command line. you can run this the next time you are in linux. it is a text based menu driven configuration tool
[07:41] <Ademan> where should i be looking to get game controllers/joysticks working?
[07:41] <B> cylence: also you could use synaptic to install it
[07:41] <cylence> B: That didn't work, but "apt-get upgrade apache2
[07:41] <cylence> did work
[07:42] <cylence> but it is staying at 2.0.*
[07:42] <cylence> not sure what that is
[07:42] <cylence> is it another package manager?
[07:42] <tabman> redd0t: and what to do after running xorgcfg ?
[07:42] <keitherz> ok so how can i apply my patch after patching it
[07:42] <keitherz> should i build it manually
[07:42] <redd0t> xorg will need to be restarted.
[07:42] <quaal> anyone use electricsheep
[07:42] <ifireball> morghanphoenix: the restricted "nvidia" driver
[07:43] <tabman> redd0t: ok I'll just switch right now & try, so lets see but I doubt it'll work
[07:43] <B> cylence:what ubuntu version do you have?
[07:43] <cylence> 6.0.7 or something to that affect
[07:43] <Scusio> Ali_ix: i've tried to set my ip and gateway etc.. but couldn't find where...i tried to contact my router through firefox typing <IP_ADDRESS> which will work at windows, but it said firefox couldn't find that location
[07:43] <morghanphoenix> there isn't a listing for the quadro on the nVidia page
[07:43] <redd0t> tabman: okay
[07:43] <cylence> it's the one that is supported for 5 years
[07:43] <B> mm
[07:43] <morghanphoenix> They don't even have windows drivers for this card, only dell released drivers
[07:43] <ifireball> cylence: the LTS doesn't include 2.2 afaik
[07:43] <Wh1rlw1nd> Hi all I just installed Ubuntu-desktop-7.04 on a Xeon 3040. I see my two cpus, but I would like to know if I can install a specific prebuilt kernel for the XEON?
[07:43] <redd0t> tabman: if its a driver problem you might have to find and download the old mouse driver and install it
[07:44] <FAJALOU4197> ifirefox: do you know about netgear stuff?
[07:44] <B> ifireball: thought so
[07:44] <Ali_ix> Scusio: you can go to windows and note ip and gateway you have there, then get back to ubntu and set them up
[07:44] <cylence> that is correct, but does that mean I can't even upgrade to it?
[07:44] <Scusio> where
[07:44] <ifireball> B. cylence : it may me in the backports repository though, I never looked int it
[07:44] <Scusio> do i set them
[07:45] <cylence> ifireball: you mean the version of apache 2.2 that would work on the LTS?
[07:45] <Vaalth> tekcop, yeah the system volume and the volume in all the media players were maxed
[07:45] <ifireball> cylence: yeah
[07:45] <Scusio> Ali_ix: where do i set them up
[07:45] <macd> cylence, hardy will have apache2.2, as does gutsy
[07:46] <jonnymac> how would I go about opening .rar files in gutsy?
[07:46] <cylence> macd: :s
[07:46] <bazhang> Scusio: who are you addressing? In a busy channel like this its a good idea to use someone's nickname (nick) in your response or they may miss it
[07:46] <macd> cylence, its possible you could get a dapper backport request, not sure there was alot of changes
[07:46] <redd0t> jonnymac: install unrar-free and use archive manager
[07:46] <Ali_ix> Scusio: administration > network in menues
[07:46] <aram> hello
[07:46] <ifireball> macd: you sure feisty didn't have it?
[07:46] <aram> hi
[07:46] <aram> <-- Moniker42 has quit (Connection timed out)
 does any one could please help me
[07:46] <aram>  how can i install linux ubuntu
[07:46] <aram>  i am new user and just want to install the linux by manual partitoan configration
[07:46] <aram>  and i dont know what partition do i need
[07:46] <aram>  and how should i do it
[07:46] <jonnymac> thanks kindly reddot
[07:46] <Wh1rlw1nd> Which kernel do I install for Xeon? I am currently using 2.6.20-15-generic
[07:46] <macd> ifireball, it does
[07:47] <redd0t> jonnymac: no problem
[07:47] <cylence> you mean to reinstall ubuntu altogether?
[07:47] <Benalex> Hello all, I am using Gutsy on Toshiba satellite L20 1.5GB ram DDR2, no swap and kernel 2.6.22-14, and I can't hibernate... instead of powering off, it pops up te unlock screen... any ideas?
[07:47] <B> cylence: no, use upgrade the dist
[07:47] <redd0t> :)
[07:47] <aram> cylence: i mean clean install
[07:47] <chraso> please read the paste bin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49134/ contains my output of desktop-effects
[07:47] <cylence> macd: sadly, this is a production web server, its too late for me to completely redo the server
[07:48] <aram> hi
[07:48] <aram> <-- Moniker42 has quit (Connection timed out)
 does any one could please help me
[07:48] <aram>  how can i install linux ubuntu
[07:48] <aram>  i am new user and just want to install the linux by manual partitoan configration
[07:48] <aram>  and i dont know what partition do i need
[07:48] <aram>  and how should i do it
[07:48] <compwiz18_> !enter | aram
[07:48] <ubotu> aram: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:48] <compwiz18_> !install
[07:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[07:48] <somerville32> !install | aram
[07:48] <ubotu> aram: please see above
[07:48] <ifireball> aram: on the most basic level you need 2 partitions, root and swap
[07:48] <fwaokda> anyone running AWN in 7.10 that can help me get it installed???
[07:49] <nny_1> lol so i am updating some packages from hardy's repos on a dapper box
[07:49] <aram> ifireball: what should be size for boot?
[07:49] <nny_1> this should be interesting
[07:49] <bazhang> fwaokda: if you dont get an answer here, you can always go to #awn
[07:49] <aram> ifireball: what should be the size for swap which is virtual mashine?
[07:49] <fwaokda> bazhang, :-/ already tried in awn got no answer there ha
[07:49] <aram> ifireball: virtual ram
[07:49] <ifireball> aram: unless you intend to use something weird such as LVM for root you don't need a separate /boot
[07:50] <macd> cylence, I hear ya.
[07:50] <cylence> macd: am I screwed? lol
[07:50] <Benalex> Hello all, I am using Gutsy on Toshiba satellite L20 1.5GB ram DDR2, no swap and kernel 2.6.22-14, and I can't hibernate... instead of powering off, it pops up te unlock screen... any ideas?
[07:50] <aram> ifireball: ok for now if i want to install how many partition do i need to create ?
[07:50] <ifireball> aram: swap should be twice the size of your real RAM
[07:50] <compwiz18_> my computer is switching rapidly back and forth between charging the battery and not charging the battery (and the battery is about 10% charged) is that probably my computer's/hardware's fault, or gnome-power-manager's fault? if it helps, I can see if it does the same thing in Windows.
[07:50] <aram> ifireball: ok and what about other one which is root?
[07:51] <ngirard> Hi all, I need to print a number of booklets using my deskjet printer, but the prints get shifted. Do you know about a tool to help me get perfectly aligned prints ?
[07:51] <andy_> compwez18: it sounds like a hardware problem
[07:51] <aram> ifireball: because i know i should create /boot as well?
[07:51] <redd0t> tabman: how did it go
[07:52] <tabman> redd0t: I'm on linux right now
[07:52] <compwiz18_> aram: you need 2 partitions, one root, one swap. Swap should be about twice the amount of ram that you have. root should be at least 3gb for normal install
[07:52] <aram> ifireball: could you please send me instruction that i can read and understand that what should i do to install ubuntu
[07:52] <compwiz18_> andy_: yeah, sadly
[07:52] <redd0t> tabman: okay
[07:52] <CruX> hello all. how can i update nvidia drivers in ubuntu ? is there any repository for latest drivers ?
[07:52] <tabman> redd0t: xorgcfg opened up some utility, saying use the keyboard to navigate but pressing key doesn't do anything
[07:52] <andy_> compwiz18: i had a problem with my old laptop that was similar to that
[07:52] <macd> cylence, not if you like extra work ;P
[07:52] <CruX> i dont wanna use install program from nvidia
[07:52] <B> aram: for a simple installation  (specifily of your installing for the first time) you only need two partitions one for spap and the other for root
[07:52] <ifireball> aram: root will need about 6G, why do you think that you need /boot? you may also want to create a separate /home partition though so you can reinstall without losing your settings and data
[07:52] <redd0t> keyboard doesnt work in the menu?
[07:52] <hippychick> aram, just create swap at twice the size of your ram and root at any size but say a minimum of 5gb you do not need boot
[07:53] <Blu3pr1nt> CruX:look on the nvidia webiste...
[07:53] <cylence> haha, well, if it's between not having Apache 2.2 and extra work, I'm afraid I'm up for extra work, hah
[07:53] <compwiz18_> andy_: ok, thanks.
[07:53] <compwiz18_> !install | aram
[07:53] <ubotu> aram: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[07:53] <CruX> Blu3pr1nt: there is no .deb archive
[07:53] <cylence> the problem is, I'm just not all that efficient with linux yet
[07:53] <ifireball> aram: a few ppl sent you a link to an install HOWTO before, look above
[07:53] <hippychick> aram, why not use auto it does this for you
[07:53] <cylence> macd: getting there, just not "efficient"
[07:53] <Blu3pr1nt> CruX: oh..wait..let me see...
[07:53] <macd> cylence, canonical offers commercial support ;)
[07:53] <tabman> redd0t: it says use numeric keypad but cursor doesn't move with the numeric keys
[07:53] <cylence> hah, joy
[07:54] <bazhang> aram: there is lots of info for you to read--additionally, the ubuntu installer can guide through each step graphically
[07:54] <cylence> macd: point taken ;p
[07:54] <andy_> compwix18: my laptop powersuppily finally went kaput. so it sounds like time to back up all of your data and cross your fingers
[07:54] <redd0t> tabman: try using the regular arrows
[07:54] <cylence> macd: no worries, thanks for the help anyway
[07:54] <macd> cylence, hehe, just in a bind, nothing beats a commercial support option
[07:54] <tabman> redd0t: no nothing with the regular arrows
[07:54] <macd> but, what exactly are you trying todo, I was just skimming
[07:54] <cylence> macd: you are so very right.
[07:54] <Benalex> Hello all, I am using Gutsy on Toshiba satellite L20 1.5GB ram DDR2, no swap and kernel 2.6.22-14, and I can't hibernate... instead of powering off, it pops up te unlock screen... any ideas?
[07:54] <Neronious> what is the name of the screen that shows the loading bar for Kubuntu?
[07:54] <aram> hippychick: because i want to learn it and start it from base
[07:54] <redd0t> tabman: is numlock on?
[07:54] <tabman> redd0t: yes its on
[07:54] <sivang> morning all
[07:54] <cylence> macd: I'm thinking I'll go lean on my web host for a little support in this
[07:55] <cylence> macd: see how far that gets me
[07:55] <aram> hippychick: i have already installed with automutic and just want to try manual
[07:55] <aram> ok
[07:55] <tabman> redd0t: i tried both ways, on & off
[07:55] <Blu3pr1nt> CruX: yes youre right...sad...there is no readme at all...("File not found.")...
[07:55] <aram> and just for root
[07:55] <Chris|> Neronious that is the usplash
[07:55] <cylence> macd: but I do sincerely appreciate the help!
[07:55] <sivang> I have a problem with suspend, in stable gutsy (ubuntu 7.10) on a T43p machine that used to work nicely with the previous version of ubuntu
[07:55] <aram> which switch do i need to use ?
[07:55] <Neronious> chris|: thanks
[07:55] <sivang> anyone an idea what I should do to make it work ?
[07:55] <aram> or just /
[07:55] <Chris|> np dude
[07:55] <aram> or what?
[07:55] <macd> cylence, no worries, if you dont get anywhere, try again here, but I still didnt catch your exact issue
[07:55] <compwiz18_> aram: if this is your first time with Linux, it's probably best to learn how it works before worrying about how it is installed
[07:55] <redd0t> tabman: hmm.. idk.. that is really weird
[07:55] <chraso> >compwiz18< thinks u can help me on this
[07:55] <ifireball> cylence: this is really the kind of stuff the backport repo was meant for, include that "factor" in your web search...
[07:56] <cylence> macd: I'm simply trying to upgrade from apache 2.0 to 2.2
[07:56] <hippychick> just / for root
[07:56] <tabman> redd0t: the whole linux is weird :)
[07:56] <aram> compwiz18_: i have already installed and work with it for a week and want to go furthure
[07:56] <macd> cylence, is there a particular reason?
[07:56] <compwiz18_> aram: ok.
[07:56] <Blu3pr1nt> CruX: http://de.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.11/HTML/chapter-03.html
[07:57] <aram> could any one help me with my isuue please
[07:57] <cylence> ifireball: thanks! that's really good to know. and to be honest, I'd not even heard the term "backport" until tonight from you, so I've got some researchin' to do lol
[07:57] <compwiz18_> andy_: right. I forgot about that if the powersupply dies...
[07:57] <kenboo> I removed 'tracker' package, and now logout icon takes 30sec to show logout dialog.
[07:57] <redd0t> tabman: haha. man i hate to do this, but its really late here. and i have to run some errands in the morning. i would tell you to use the forums online either at ubuntu forums, or elsewher
[07:58] <bazhang> aram: you have been given some links--are you finished reading them?
[07:58] <andy_> compwiz18_: you can allways take out the hardrive and hook it up to a desktop, but that is not any fun
[07:58] <aram> no
[07:58] <cylence> macd: yes, it's a Ruby on Rails server, and I'm trying to serve the apps using mongrel, which requires apache 2.1+
[07:58] <aram> bazhang: no
[07:58] <macd> cylence, oh man
[07:58] <tabman> redd0t: ok Thanks
[07:58] <macd> you hit the right person
[07:58] <macd> Im a rails dude.
[07:58] <aram> bazhang: do they explain every thing ?
[07:58] <bazhang> aram: you should read those links first, instead of repeating help here
[07:58] <compwiz18_> andy_: no, it isn't. I'll just go with backing up
[07:58] <aram> bazhang: ok sorry
[07:58] <compwiz18_> andy_: which I already do, so...
[07:59] <macd> cylence, we recently moved over to feisty server for apache2.2 using proxy balkancer to hit a cluster of mongrels on gutsy
[07:59] <tabman> redd0t: I disconnected the mouse, restarted xorgcfg, its responding to the keyboard now
[07:59] <macd> and feisty has been super reliable
[07:59] <redd0t> tabman: oh.. thats interesting.
[07:59] <ifireball> cylence: please tell me how it goes, when I faced similar problem I (did the cowardly thing and) simply upgraded do whole OS, however I do want to know if the LTS idea stands up to its reputation
[07:59] <aram> other quistion is how can i access teh file that i have shared in windows xp?
[07:59] <aram> from linux
[07:59] <andy_> compwiz18_: also to conserve your battery power on your notebook when you turn your notebook off, you should take out the battery and just plug in the power suppily when you are using it for extended periods plugged in
[07:59] <tabman> redd0t: now what :)
[08:00] <compwiz18_> andy_: been doing that. charging the battery and using the computer makes the screen flicker
[08:00] <redd0t> tabman: try running through the menus. and selecting everything.
[08:00] <cylence> ifireball: I'm starting to wonder that as well lol, but I will stop by and let you know if I find a solution to it :)
[08:00] <CruX> Blu3pr1nt: The downloaded file is a self-extracting installer, and you may place it anywhere on your system.  - how can i uninstall this package ?
[08:00] <redd0t> tabman: http://www.x.org/wiki/ConfigurationHelp#head-3723efeee6f3e0f057d8a792bda330479eca1fcc
[08:00] <CruX> Blu3pr1nt: i don't wanna mess up system with tons of files from nvidia
[08:00] <cylence> macd: I'm wondering if I won't just have to take a weekend to kill my server and upgrade the whole darned thing, taking my other sites down in the mean time
[08:00] <andy_> compwix18_: sounds good. what kind of laptop is it again?
[08:01] <macd> cylence, it wouldnt be a bad idea
[08:01] <cylence> macd: :/
[08:01] <macd> cylence, if the sites are important just grab a rails machine for a month, or something on media temple
[08:01] <cylence> macd: I'm starting to get that bad feeling that you might be right
[08:01] <aram> can any one please help how can i access the files that i have shared in windows xp?
[08:01] <macd> one month 20 bux and give you all the time you needed to migrate
[08:01] <B> cylence: should be able to do a distupgrade
[08:01] <andy_> compwiz18_: I am using a lenovo t60p and i am in love with it
[08:01] <cylence> macd: again, not a horrible idea
[08:01] <cylence> B: hmm?
[08:01] <macd> I'd rather do a fresh install for that myself
[08:02] <macd> cylence, I'm full of good ideas ;)
[08:02] <cylence> well, it *is* a fairly recently installed system
[08:02] <compwiz18_> andy_: no funny power supplies?
[08:02] <cylence> macd: haha, humble too!!
[08:02] <macd> hardy is getting a full rails stack on the server version b/c of me ;)
[08:02] <cylence> macd: oh, very nice!!
[08:02] <macd> yeah actually I am most of the time
[08:02] <macd> jyust had a rought week, have to pat myself on the back
[08:02] <aram> helpppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[08:02] <cylence> macd: lol
[08:02] <ifireball> cylence: like B said you can upgrade rather then reinstall, you'll have to upgrade to all the versions since LTS one by one though...
[08:02] <sivang> anyone an idea regarding laptop suspend ?
[08:02] <cylence> macd: sometimes ya just have to
[08:02] <B> apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:03] <andy_> compwiz18_: I used to have a dell and it was a royal pain in the rear end. That was back in the day of the prescott core p4
[08:03] <cylence> ifireball: geesh. I'm wondering if it would not just be easier/faster to save my apache conf file and do that upgrade.
[08:03] <Eeyore-Jr> where do i set the domain name in ubuntu server?  hostname is set in /etc/hostname
[08:03] <macd> cylence, well apache is different in going from 2.0 to 2.2
[08:03] <cylence> it makes me cry just thinking about it
[08:03] <bazhang> !repeat | aram
[08:03] <ubotu> aram: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:03] <macd> its modular, and your configs will be different
[08:03] <compwiz18_> andy_: I've got a compaq v2000, starting to show some wear, I think. works great, except for the aforementioned problems
[08:04] <macd> cylence, I can point you to all the config info for the setup we run, apache2.2 + mongrel_cluster
[08:04] <Eeyore-Jr> !domainname
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about domainname - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <B> cylence: make sure you backup the system though
[08:04] <macd> cylence, and the instructions, I wrote the doc, its not bad
[08:04] <ifireball> cylence: it may, YMMV...
[08:04] <cylence> macd: fair enough, I suppose I meant to keep what settings I have currently in the VirtualDirectory department, not to just drop it in place
[08:04] <cylence> B: *very* good point
[08:04] <aram> bazhang: how can accsess my file from linux which are shared in xp
[08:05] <macd> yeah, your vhosts change alot, but its still easy, just all split up into multiple files now rather than one big file
[08:05] <bazhang> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy aram
[08:05] <andy_> Compwiz18_: lenovo makes the best laptops. hands down. I found a site to get mine up to 40% off. www.laptopbroker.com
[08:05] <aram> bazhang: thanks a lot
[08:05] <aram> bazhang: bye for know
[08:05] <macd> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RubyOnRailsStack  towards the bottom has the config files and mongrel scripts
[08:05] <Blu3pr1nt> CruX: I am sry...i dont have more informations on this...my 8600 is not supported bey nVidia yet so...
[08:05] <ifireball> B: simply doing "apt-get dist-upgrade" will probably break the system... aptitude may work better, but back in LTS that was a bupmy ride in any case...
[08:05] <cylence> ifireball: I have no doubt
[08:05] <aram> bazhang: now
[08:05] <cylence> alright then, thanks as always guys!
[08:06] <compwiz18_> andy_: theres no way I'm getting a new one until this one doesn't start... so I have to hope it keeps chugging along
[08:06] <flake> why isn't my cd auto-mounting
[08:06] <B> ifireball: I'm only familar with 7.10, so I have no i dear how any other version works (what quirk may be in them versions)
[08:07] <bazhang> flake: audio cd?
[08:07] <ifireball> B: then please don't give this kind of tips...
[08:07] <flake> data dvd
[08:07] <flake> backed stuff off my old pc
[08:08] <andy_> compwiz_: I am going to put my old laptop parts in a tower so i can use them even if the laptop power suppily is bad. you might end up doing that
[08:08] <kaxi> i'm looking to do a minimal install of ubuntu - is there a version that is very tiny? i minimal install of debian ends up being about to 380mb. i'm looking for something smaller.
[08:08] <bazhang> !minimal
[08:08] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[08:08] <andy_> kaxie_: look at minix
[08:08] <bazhang> kaxi:  see above
[08:09] <keitherz> there was a minimal cd?!?
[08:09] <keitherz> i didn't know that
[08:09] <ifireball> hmm... was that too much of an insult?
[08:09] <andy_> kaxi_: you could also try DSL (damn small linux) that is 50 mb
[08:09] <MatthewV> I have a compro videomate u500 usb dvb-t tuner - i have the tuner all working great, but I am unable to get the included remote to work?
[08:09] <Memot> Can i run Ubuntu with Daemon tools? Oo
[08:10] <Myrtti> does anyone have any hints on how to set a Ubuntu server to permanently use other keyboard layout than it's configured currently? (the system doesn't have X in it)
[08:10] <Myrtti> I've tried almost evertything I've googled into
[08:10] <amoo> hello
[08:10] <kaxi> andy_ DSL is like 150mb installed. i also need something that is maintained.
[08:10] <Benalex> Memot, why??... you can mount any image you want from command line or GMOUNT
[08:10] <keitherz> DSL is 50 mb
[08:10] <keitherz> cd
[08:11] <keitherz> but
[08:11] <keitherz> everything is missing
[08:11] <andy_> kaxi_: are you looking for a system to run an ftp server on?
[08:11] <ifireball> Myrtti: you're trying to get keyboard layouts to work in the console?
[08:11] <ifireball> Myrtti: or over SSH from some putty/etc. window?
[08:12] <kaxi> andy_ yes. basically.
[08:12] <andy_> kaxi_: yellowdog linux (ppl help me out here) does anyone know how big this is?
[08:12] <Myrtti> ifireball: yep. I've added loadkeys just to be sure again on rc2, I've got the environment settings in .bash_profile... but still I need to do loadkeys again after login and to get them to work in nano I have to run kbd-config
[08:13] <flake> apparently this automounting of dvd is an issue, according to the forums, like a small bug
[08:13] <kaxi> andy_ yellowdog is for non-x86 systems. i'm looking for x86 distros.
[08:13] <andy_> kaxi_: well my professor runs a distro off of a floppy, it is headless though
[08:14] <Myrtti> they keep resetting, I'm not sure if the problem exists because it's runnin in vmware
[08:14] <ifireball> Myrtti: running loadkeys from .bash_profile doens't work for you?
[08:14] <kenboo> pls help me removing tracker.  it seems not possible to remove tracker without affecting nautilus
[08:15] <Myrtti> ifireball: well, in .bash_profile I don't have permissions to run them
[08:15] <Myrtti> ifireball: but I've got LANG and LC_ALL set there
[08:15] <flake> I mounted it using K3b
[08:16] <ifireball> Myrtti: well the LANG and LC_* variables influence how programs work they don't influence key afaik
[08:17] <tonyr1988> My desktop is connected through my Linksys router, and I wanna access it remotely. I have a DynDNS account, and my router can successfully update the DNS to the correct IP address. But....that just points to my "network" IP address, how do I access my desktop? (if that makes sense)
[08:17] <tonyr1988> My desktop's name is tony-desktop....do I use that somewhere?
[08:18] <bazhang> !info ssh
[08:18] <ubotu> ssh: secure shell client and server (metapackage). In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.6p1-5build1 (gutsy), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB
[08:18] <Benalex> What kind of access you mean? tonyr1988 ??
[08:18] <tonyr1988> Well, I have MythTV installed, so I mainly want to access MythWeb (it's just a site via the apache server)
[08:19] <jklock> tonyr-1988: its something nice you can call your computer when it is bad :)
[08:19] <tonyr1988> From my laptop, I can just go to <IP_ADDRESS>/mythweb
[08:19] <tonyr1988> But, how can I access that from outside my network?
[08:19] <ifireball> Myrtti: do you have usplash (graphical boot) running on the system?
[08:20] <scguy318> tonyr1998: what is your question? just came here
[08:20] <Myrtti> ifireball: no
[08:20] <Benalex> tonyr1988: then you should do a port forward to your computer
[08:20] <tonyr1988> Benalex, Would that be through my router or my computer?
[08:20] <scguy318> tonyr1998: router
[08:20] <tonyr1988> scguy318: Thanks
[08:20] <andy_> kaxi_: sorry i was not able to be helpful, you could try googleing
[08:21] <ifireball> Myrtti: seems that /etc/init.d/keyboard-setup should be doing all the work for you, I'm looking into it
[08:21] <Benalex> tonyr1988: through your router... for instructions go www.portforward.com and select your router and follow instructions
[08:21] <kaxi> andy_ i'm investigating. i think i need something that has a reduce sized kernel
[08:21] <Thornsberr1> Can someone please help me install Java?
[08:22] <falieson> so um, I put the ubuntu install disc in - and I'm staring at a peach background
[08:22] <tonyr1988> Benalex: Ohhh.....so if I set up the port forward properly, and my network IP address is 70.178.xxx.xx, then I could do 70.178.xxx.xx:123 and access my desktop?
[08:22] <hobojohn3> what is the offtopic channel
[08:22] <bazhang> Thornsberr1: want a factoid link?
[08:22] <andy_> kaxi_: do you mind headless systems... without a GUI
[08:22] <Benalex> tonyr1988: PINGO!! :))
[08:22] <Perff> hi all
[08:22] <tonyr1988> Benalex: Awesome - thanks a ton!
[08:22] <Thornsberr1> bazhang, well I tried going through what java.com said and it didn't install properly.
[08:22] <ifireball> Myrtti: have you tried changing /etc/default/console-setup ?
[08:22] <Perff> could someone help me with grub?
[08:22] <scguy318> falieson: wait a bit
[08:23] <Eyemean> hi, is there an easy way to convert flash files to avi or something? cheers
[08:23] <Myrtti> ifireball: yup
[08:23] <jklock> Perff: I will
[08:23] <scguy318> falieson: or is there no ongoing system activity?
[08:23] <scguy318> Eyeman: ffmpeg probably
[08:23] <bazhang> !java | Thornsberr1
[08:23] <ubotu> Thornsberr1: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:23] <ifireball> Myrtti: what did you put there?
[08:23] <hobojohn3> how do i find my network ip address?
[08:23] <kaxi> andy_ i actually need to install x on the system and a few other programs. in the end it'll have to be under 1gb with applications i need. the basic system though without x has to be less than 380mb.
[08:24] <falieson> scguy318: asked me about the clock, I said 'sure i'll chagne it' and it said ti couldn't configure clock right now... and now I still have this peach background
[08:24] <Perff> jklock: i can't find what to pass to root= (at kernel line) so it can boot. any parameter makes kernel panic. i tried update-grub. with removing one or two kopt lines.
[08:24] <Perff> my root is on /dev/sda10 and this line doesn't work also.
[08:24] <Eyemean> k cheers scguy318
[08:24] <hobojohn3> !offtopic
[08:24] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:24] <andy_> kaxi_: allright, i understand now
[08:24] <scguy318> falieson: interesting, mm, could you possibly check the integrity of your CD?
[08:24] <kaxi> andy_ i have figured out how to reduce the size of x. the kernel and modules seem to be taking up the largest portion of space on the basic base debian installs.
[08:25] <jklock> Perff: pastebin your menu.lst
[08:25] <Perff> jklock: not to mention that i tried to install ubuntu from livecd several times and it always failed to set up grub
[08:25] <falieson> scguy318: I verified it when I burned it
[08:25] <andy_> kaxi_: you are running it off of a pen drive then? www.pendrivelinux.com
[08:25] <falieson> scguy318: but I'll use the CD test
[08:25] <Myrtti> ifireball: let mee see...
[08:25] <scguy318> falieson: if the LiveCD is not working out for you see !install
[08:25] <scguy318> falieson: there are many other options besides the LiveCD
[08:25] <falieson> !install