[00:47] <TwoCubed> Is there a way to install Ubuntu Touch on a Samsung Fascinate?
[09:53] <K1773R> is the problem know that the time isnt in sync when the screen was turned of for some minutes?, talking about the time on lockscreen and panel. after some seconds it updates the time
[10:53] <arunkumar413> Hi all, I want to install ubuntu mobile os on my mobile. I want to back up the installation. Is it possible to back up the entire android OS and restore it later
[12:01] <M4dH4TT3r>     https://qoinpro.com/68453924a4f72eee17ae99c48d23f4cc
[12:03] <popey> M4dH4TT3r: please don't spam us with referral links
[12:04] <M4dH4TT3r> noworries just the one ;)
[12:04] <popey> no, none please.
[12:04] <M4dH4TT3r> to late for that poopey
[19:01] <nik90_> tedg: Hey, I installed your app "Ubuntu App Startup". I see the startup times it retrieves from the test server.
[19:01] <nik90_> tedg: but am not too sure how it measures that or if the values displayed are scaled correctly
[19:02] <nik90_> tedg: for instance for the clock app it show 200 which I am not sure what it represents
[20:06] <ajalkane_> Anyone know if Qt5's GridLayout supported in Ubuntu Touch apps? I'm getting errors trying to run it on Ubuntu 14.04 desktop.
[21:20] <jelkner> anyone here who could give a high school teacher advice on how to start his students developing apps for ubuntu touch?
[21:20] <jelkner> specifically, if i add the ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa on 14.04, will i be able to develop for the current touch?
[21:22] <popey> jelkner: yes, see http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-sdk/using-device-kits/
[21:22] <jelkner> thanks, popey!
[21:41] <davidtolo> how do you make the right panel go away?


[00:18] <cozziemoto> hey guys...how would I enable autologon  via command line?
[00:18] <cozziemoto> recent gdm updates do not allow me to logon to the system  via gdm  however i can log on in text console
[00:26] <aroman> is compiz 0.9 going to be part of natty/unity?
[00:26] <cozziemoto> aroman,   yes it is
[00:26] <Pici> !info compiz
[00:27] <aroman> sweet!
[00:27] <aroman> thanks
[00:27] <cozziemoto> anyone have a command to enabled  autologin
[00:27] <cozziemoto> to enable
[00:29] <jamalta> cozziemoto: you sure autologin would fix the issue?
[00:29] <jamalta> it seems to be something crashing after login
[00:30] <cozziemoto> jamalta,  well I can log into text console with no issues
[00:31] <cozziemoto> jamalta,  it is only at the gdm login screen that it doesnt work
[00:31] <cozziemoto> jamalta, this started after a few gdm updates
[00:31] <jamalta> cozziemoto: i believe its related to the fact that python was upgraded to 2.7 but all packages haven't been rebuilt yet
[00:32] <jamalta> all packages that use python
[00:32] <jamalta> i don't think it's gdm crashing
[00:32] <jamalta> but i can't say for sure
[00:32] <cozziemoto> jamalta,  and on natty   I am not finding  /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf
[00:32] <jamalta> well, we're both stuck in the same state
[00:32] <jamalta> the topic warns not to upgrade, but kinda late for us :\
[00:32] <cozziemoto> jamalta,  ah ok this has happened to you also?
[00:32] <cozziemoto> I can get to text console just fine
[00:35] <jamalta> cozziemoto: yes
[00:35] <jamalta> and i can login on a tty as well
[00:35] <cozziemoto> oy... well this may offer me the opportunity to test something else
[00:35] <cozziemoto> backtrack or  freebsd  or maybe sabayon   mm maybe not sabayon :)
[00:35] <Volkodav> what's up wuth ubuntu-desktop removal ?
[00:36] <Volkodav> I mean when we will know it is ok to upgrade ?
[00:38] <cozziemoto> I have non idea
[00:38] <cozziemoto> no not non
[00:38] <cozziemoto> damn fingers
[00:38]  * Volkodav just did partial upgrade and removed ubuntu-desktop and only then saw the topic about upgrade
[00:39] <Volkodav> will not reboot until the upgrade comes along
[00:42] <cozziemoto> Volkodav,  i can reboot  fine but i cant log on  except via text console
[00:44] <Volkodav> I did the recovery mode logged in and starx
[00:44] <Volkodav> no clue what happens this time
[00:45] <Volkodav> depends how long it takes for python to rebuild
[00:45] <Volkodav> a lot of apps out there
[03:13] <joseefrainpb> hola disculpen me recomendaron este canal para hacer preguntas sobre unity
[03:13] <joseefrainpb> alguno lo tiene instalado?
[03:13] <Gullstad> I would probly agree to that.
[03:14] <dmb_> so... who broke the python?
[03:14] <dmb_> :P
[03:14]  * dmb_ blames Gullstad
[03:15] <Gullstad> I would probly agree to that too! :)
[04:11] <MTecknology> !info bitlbee
[04:11] <MTecknology> !info bitlbee maverick
[05:12] <dan2> is there a way to download daily ubuntu images with jigdo?
[05:23] <dan2> man cdimage.ubuntu.com is dreadfully slow
[05:47] <c2tarun> I was setting up a virtual box env of natty to reproduce some bugs. i got an error, can anyone help me with setting up the environment please.
[05:55] <histo> just create a new machine what is the issue?
[05:56] <histo> or what is the error I should say?
[05:56] <c2tarun> histo: i created the new machine, error i m getting is [!!] Select and install software   An installation step failed....
[05:57] <histo> c2tarun: who know may be an issue with the installer?
[05:58] <histo> what type of machine type did you specify?
[05:58] <c2tarun> histo: sorry i m not getting, what do you mean by machine type.
[05:58] <histo> In the settings for the machine. The general settings os type?
[05:59] <histo> c2tarun: and what installer are you using alternate or the main desktop iso?
[06:00] <c2tarun> i m using alternate iso and how can i check the settings i m stuck at the error. :(
[06:02] <histo> c2tarun: well you can hit alt+F4 to maybe get some more info on what the installer is trying to do
[06:02] <histo> c2tarun: and I dont' think you can check the settings while the machine is running.
[06:03] <c2tarun> histo: i can show you the screenshot of my error screen, may be that way u can help me. you want to see??
[06:04] <histo> c2tarun: yeah pastebin it
[06:04] <histo> c2tarun: or where ever imgbin
[06:05] <c2tarun> histo: ya just a second
[06:06] <c2tarun> histo: i never used imgbin before, can u give me link to it.
[06:06] <histo> !paste | c2tarun
[06:08] <c2tarun> http://imagebin.org/127039
[06:08] <histo> c2tarun: click continue and try to run the step again
[06:09] <histo> c2tarun: also hit alt+f4 and check the output on that console. You can get back by alt+F1
[06:09] <c2tarun> how can i show u the output on console??
[06:10] <histo> c2tarun: what was it trying to do? tasksel
[06:12] <c2tarun> http://imagebin.org/127040
[06:12] <c2tarun> check this
[06:14] <histo> yeah hit continue it will take you back to the menu
[06:14] <histo> installer blew up for some reason
[06:14] <c2tarun> ok. so what option should i select in menu??
[06:17] <histo> select and install packages or whatever it's called the step that failed
[06:17] <c2tarun> ok
[06:18] <c2tarun> now i m getting three options 1. no automatic update 2. Install security updates automatically 3. Manage system with landscape
[06:19] <histo> okay that's up to you
[06:19] <c2tarun> ok, so i m going with the first
[06:20] <c2tarun> again same error. going with 2nd option now
[06:20] <c2tarun> again same error . going with third option now
[06:20] <c2tarun> histo: same error with all the three options :(
[06:21]  * rww peers at /topic
[06:21] <rww> sudo apt-get upgrade is a bad idea right now?
[06:21] <rww> or does it mean 10.10 -> 11.04
[06:22] <c2tarun> rww: are u saying to me??
[06:22] <histo> rww: No I would hold off on upgrading
[06:23] <rww> histo: This doesn't help me with which meaning of "upgrade" you and the /topic mean ;)
[06:24] <histo> rww: don't install updates at this time
[06:24] <histo> Don't know how else to epxlain it
[06:24] <rww> histo: alrighty. thanks
[06:24] <histo> Do what you want
[06:25] <rww> generally, "update" means installing updates within an Ubuntu version and upgrade means going from one version to another. Thus, using upgrade to mean update was confusing me. I am now unconfused :)
[06:25] <c2tarun> histo: i selected next step, that was grub installation. now i have a problem. system rebooted and opened into command prompt. no gnome :(
[06:26] <histo> c2tarun: idd you install ubuntu-desktop or just a command line system?
[06:26] <histo> c2tarun: I would redo you install something got messed up it could be with hte updates they are working on right now.
[06:26] <IdleOne> better? less confusing?
[06:26]  * rww offers IdleOne a narwhal-shaped cookie
[06:26] <IdleOne> thank you
[06:27] <histo> IdleOne: what me?
[06:27] <c2tarun> before this box i have a chroot env with command prompt. i installed this virtual box so that i dont have to install ubuntu-desktop. :( i m circled back to the same situation
[06:28] <histo> rww: well I was speaking in the sense of apt. You don't apt-get update to install new packages
[06:28] <IdleOne> histo: I meant the topic :)
[06:28] <histo> c2tarun: I'm confused by what you are doing?
[06:28] <histo> c2tarun: Are you installing 11.04 on a virtualbox or not?
[06:28] <c2tarun> histo: yup
[06:29] <c2tarun> on a virtualbox
[06:29] <histo> Then what are you talking about chroot'ng?
[06:31] <c2tarun> i also have a chroot env of natty on my system. i was just telling that on that chroot also i dont have any desktop Env, and on this virtual box env also i dont have and DE. anyway, leave i better fix some confirmed bugs than trying to reproduce them :(
[07:00] <F3RR1S> hey nit-wit how are things today?
[07:01] <F3RR1S> you here to help tonight?
[07:01] <nit-wit> F3RR1S, peachy when I can avoid the ms trolls on #windows
[07:02] <F3RR1S> nice
[07:02] <nit-wit> F3RR1S, if I can sure
[07:02] <F3RR1S> I am good tonight... finally got my refresh settings correct... now I can watch some decent videos
[07:03] <nit-wit> F3RR1S, anything even resembling a MS slight and there all over you, hey personally I don't care what OS anybody uses, just that they know some basic stuff
[07:03] <nit-wit> F3RR1S, was it the youtube  resolution
[07:03] <F3RR1S> yeah... I will have to take a look at #windows
[07:06] <nit-wit> F3RR1S, yesterday I was helping somebody that had a 320 gig HD with only 40 gigs left, they had just deleted the E partition and wanted to merge C with it, I just mentioned that a HD should be about 30% empty for optimal use this is common knowledge and We were interrupted by a user wanting proof from MS
[07:07] <F3RR1S> that is ridiculous
[07:08] <nit-wit> F3RR1S, I asked the interrupter if this was they best time and they said something just plain stupid so I was just see yah
[07:08] <nit-wit> the best time
[07:08] <F3RR1S> it is unfortunate for people to go there for help and get lame answers.
[07:10] <nit-wit> F3RR1S, it was the time that they had to interrupt that was ridiculous, the user who deleted the E partition was not really following a safe protocol with that either they thought they could merge 2 partitions across another
[07:12] <nit-wit> F3RR1S, the day before it was a System Administrator setting me straight that W7 could be run with no password just uac
[07:12] <nit-wit> F3RR1S, in the admin account
[07:12] <timus> hi all
[07:13] <nit-wit> timus, yoh I'm just complaing sorry
[07:13] <timus> i just updated my 11.04 Alpha... can't login... it goes back to GDM
[07:13] <timus> any advice?
[07:13] <F3RR1S> hey timus... how are you doing?
[07:13] <timus> doing fine
[07:13] <nit-wit> tim
[07:14] <timus> 11.04 by the way is running in VBox guest
[07:14] <nit-wit> timus, I just saw a thread on this at the UF, I will look there now
[07:15] <timus> i would appreciate if u can post the link
[07:16] <F3RR1S> timus... I had a similar issue so I removed gdm gnome-core gnome-desktop and reinstalled with the -f option
[07:17] <nit-wit> timus, post 9 might be the answer http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1641092
[07:19] <F3RR1S> startx will start the xwindow system
[07:19] <F3RR1S> are you able to startx?
[07:20] <nit-wit> timus cariboo907 several post really 40 posts long altogether
[07:20] <F3RR1S> you also may want to sudo service gdm restart
[07:20] <F3RR1S> that should start gnome desktop manager
[07:21] <nit-wit> I just loaded all those updates to I will reboot to natty and see what happens
[07:23] <timus> bummer... servide gdm restart does not help
[07:24] <timus> i can't even drop to console using Ctrl+Alt+F1
[07:24] <timus> i have to use ssh
[07:24] <F3RR1S> can you boot to text login?
[07:24] <timus> can i do it in ssh?
[07:25] <timus> by the way, i am using VBox guest... i am not seeing the usual selection to log in recovery mode
[07:25] <timus> not sure why
[07:26] <F3RR1S> wubi?
[07:27] <timus> nope
[07:27] <timus> i am re-running VBoxLinuxAdditons... let us see
[07:28] <F3RR1S> ok
[07:30] <timus> nah.... no dice...
[07:30] <timus> won't let me in
[07:31] <F3RR1S> and you can't drop to a shell... hmn.
[07:40] <timus> not fixed... but i am too sleepy
[07:40] <timus> thanks everyone... i will try again tomorrow
[07:40] <timus> c yall
[07:42] <Gulfstream> I was using Natty on a VM and I just installed the latest updates and I could not log in. It kept reloading the login screen.
[07:48] <hifi> reloading the graphical login screen?
[07:48] <Gulfstream> what happened was that I typed in my password and then when it would usually load up the desktop, it loaded the login screen again like as if it rebooted.
[07:50] <Gulfstream> and yes, the graphical one
[07:50] <hifi> then gnome is broken
[07:51] <nit-wit> F3RR1S, locked out couldn't get in except with the root shell
[07:51] <Gulfstream> hifi: how do I log in then?
[07:52] <nit-wit> hifi, I just saw a gnome update in a list about 70 from the US servers
[07:52] <hifi> Gulfstream: well, you can drop into the text login
[07:52] <hifi> Ctrl-Alt-F1
[07:53] <hifi> but that won't fix it though
[07:53] <Gulfstream> can I run updates in the CLI?
[07:53] <hifi> yes, sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get full-upgrade
[07:53] <rww> I note the /topic
[07:54] <nit-wit> hifi, I did the login ran sudo services gdm stop then starx and just got a blank screen
[07:54] <Gulfstream> Thanks.
[07:54] <hifi> rww: how would python break gnome?
[07:54] <hifi> actually, I don't want to know
[07:54] <rww> neither do I, that's why I'm not running anything involving apt-get
[07:54] <nit-wit> hifi, lol
[07:54] <rww> also, it's upgrade. full-upgrade is aptitude.
[07:55] <hifi> speaking of apt-get and aptitude, which one should now be used
[07:55] <rww> either. aptitude isn't installed by default, so I tend to offer commands in apt-get form.
[07:55] <rww> they both work, though
[07:55] <nit-wit> hifi, aptitude has a trail is all
[07:56] <hifi> but didn't aptitude handle full-upgrades better than apt-get?
[07:56] <hifi> when a conflict happens
[07:56] <rww> if you have a conflict that apt-get can't solve, you should probably wait for the repositories to settle down a little ;P
[07:57] <nit-wit> hifi, not sure myself I concentrate on other key areas like booting problems
[07:57] <rww> good way to break things. more than installing alphas in the first place, that is
[07:58] <hifi> rww: well, I always run the latest so when something breaks I usually can handle the conflicts with aptitude and care
[07:58] <rww> *shrugs* It's your time. I'm just going by what smarter people than me write on wiki.ubuntu.com.
[07:58] <hifi> like, some package was updated which depends on something that has not hit the repositories yet, if I know how they are related to the system I can safely just ignore the upgrade with aptitude and continue installing everything else
[08:00] <hifi> been doing that since fresh install of jaunty on my home desktop
[08:00] <hifi> surprisingly I've only hit the worst problems which are usually documented in this channel topic
[08:00] <hifi> but I don't run gnome so the desktop bugs don't bother me
[08:01] <Gulfstream> I am going to reinstall Natty
[08:46] <Gulfstream> how do I insert CTRL+ALT+F1 in Virtualbox?
[08:48] <nit-wit> Gulfstream, I have never found it to work but it may in full screen, but I belive you can't login so full screen may not be available
[08:49] <Gulfstream> Fullscreen did almost work but it got the host into the CLI
[08:57] <nit-wit> Gulfstream, kind of figured that would be the case, I would sit back and wait till there is a daily update that you can reload take it easy.,
[08:57] <nit-wit> daily live cd update
[08:59] <Gulfstream> a live cd update?
[08:59] <Gulfstream> as in, a fresh reinstall?
[09:02] <nit-wit> Gulfstream, With virtuabox youcan hold down the shift and get the grub menu and get to a root net update otherwise. The Vbox is a nasty beast to try the same key prompts for a cli...etc
[09:03] <Eyad> Hi, I'm in a big problem... I've upgraded to natty a while ago and last night it oddly started logging me out a second or 2 after logging in
[09:04] <Eyad> I tried printed the syslog and got an error about org.freedesktop.NetworkManager
[09:04] <Eyad> *printing
[09:05] <Eyad> It seems like it's an access problem, how can I take ownership of the settings?
[09:06] <Eyad> any help please!!
[09:08] <nit-wit> Eyad, why did you upgrade to natty, put a live maverick cd pull hyour stuff out and install a OS that has been released
[09:10] <Eyad> This would be my last resort. I'm trying to fix the problem first
[09:11] <nit-wit> Eyad, here is thread on this issue   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1641092
[09:19] <Eyad> nit-wit The problem was not resolved... I guess I'll have to wait for an update
[09:19] <nit-wit> Eyad sorry to hear that you is it your only OS
[09:20] <Eyad> well, I'm running the stable on this computer
[09:21] <nit-wit> Eyad, the stable what maverick
[09:21] <Eyad> But all my personal files are on that one.. it's not a big deal... I'm welling to take one for the future release :)
[09:21] <Eyad> yes, maverick
[09:22] <nit-wit> Eyad, well it sounds like you know how to get them if needed in the time waiting for a update that fixes this
[09:22] <Eyad> nit-wit yeah, thanks for the help anyway
[09:24] <nit-wit> Eyad, I can't get in either but I have on SDHC 16 gig card
[12:07] <Ian_Corne> gdm seems to be broken atm?
[12:14] <cozziemoto> Ian_Corne,  i believe so
[12:17] <Ian_Corne> ok good to know I'm not the only one
[12:17] <Ian_Corne> you can still login via startx
[12:19] <rye> Hello, has anybody faced the issue with mailto: links sent to vfs MountTracker instead of mailto: handler in gconf in natty?
[12:19] <rye> Basically gnome-open mailto:anything says Error showing url: The specified location is not supported
[12:19] <rye> and evolution as well
[12:20] <cozziemoto> Ian_Corne,  I cant seem to do that here
[12:22] <Ian_Corne> you have to stop gdm first cozziemoto
[12:22] <cozziemoto> Ian_Corne,  i tried that last night...trying again as soon as it boots up :)
[12:23] <Ian_Corne> I have troubles booting too but if i remove splash and quiet from boot option
[12:23] <Ian_Corne> it boots
[12:23] <Ian_Corne> properly
[12:24] <cozziemoto> Ian_Corne,  got it...although it has booted to classic gnome..let me see if i can switch
[12:25] <Ian_Corne> well that's probably upto classical configuration of .xinit
[12:27] <cozziemoto> Ian_Corne,  ok having same issues again.... I think I'll just wait it out :)
[13:21] <h3sp4wn> Ian_Corne: I still don't see the point of splash (First thing I remove don't see its point far too often it doesn't work and you cannot even see why)
[14:01] <jmfthevci> Just been testing the daily Natty build and Unity. Cannot find any obvious option to allow the toggling of the Unity Launcher for Float or AutoHide. Are there options available yet?
[14:02] <jmfthevci> Also, when will Unity allow the launcher, or at least it's icons to be re-sized?
[14:19] <Chipaca> wah, no sound device today
[14:21] <coz_> jmfthevci,  open cccsm  and scroll to the bottom to the compiz unity plugin
[14:22] <coz_> jmfthevci,  in there you will see both autohide and float options
[14:22] <jmfthevci> coz: sorry, being a bit thick today. Please explain cccsm?
[14:22] <coz_> ccsm
[14:22] <jmfthevci> compiz .....?
[14:23] <coz_> jmfthevci,      compizconfig-settings-manager
[14:23] <coz_> jmfthevci,  open terminal and  type      ccsm
[14:23] <jmfthevci> Ta. I'll have another reboot and see if it's there.
[14:23] <coz_> jmfthevci,  ok
[14:24] <coz_> although  reboot for this is not necessary
[14:24] <jmfthevci> cos: do you know any more about the plans for unity...to say allow smaller icons?
[14:25] <jmfthevci> cos: a reboot is because I am back in 10.10
[14:25] <coz_> jmfthevci,  smaller icons on the Panel you mean?
[14:25] <jmfthevci> coz: Smaller icons in the left hand side launcher. On my netbook (1024x600) they take up a lot of screen width
[14:25] <coz_> jmfthevci,  in all honesty I put the panel on autohide and never use it
[14:26] <coz_> jmfthevci,  you dont have to use unity
[14:26] <coz_> jmfthevci,  you can log out and change session to classic gnome
[14:26] <coz_> jmfthevci,  then start compiz from there
[14:26] <jmfthevci> coz: I know. But I thought I'd at least give it a try to ascertain whether it is good for me or to stick with Gnome
[14:26] <coz_> jmfthevci,  oh ok
[14:27] <coz_> jmfthevci,   its fine if you dont use  dual monitors  because of  Global menu
[14:27] <jmfthevci> "I'm just a useful community tester"
[14:27] <jmfthevci> no dual monitors for me.
[14:27] <coz_> jmfthevci,  global menu on dual monitors is a waiste of time..and slows things down in terms of accessing  the FIle Edit View
[14:27] <jmfthevci> I have tried Global menu on 10.10. It was a bit buggy.
[14:27] <coz_> jmfthevci, then it shouldnt be too much of a hassle... global menu on natty is ok,,,it works fine
[14:28] <jmfthevci> coz: that's something then.
[14:28] <coz_> jmfthevci,  unity  is fine once you get used to accessing your applications
[14:29] <coz_> jmfthevci,   to do that much easier  installing cairo dock or awn  or even easystroke
[14:29] <coz_> then you can access your applications....from cairo dock....from the  gnome menu applet on cairo dock which gives you the regular gnome applications menu
[14:29] <jmfthevci> I use Gnome-do & Docky. The default unity setup for applications is a bit of a step back at the mo.
[14:29] <coz_> jmfthevci,  that would be perfect
[14:30] <coz_> jmfthevci,  unity is essentially only designed for netbooks and even there without applications menu  it near to   frustrating
[14:31] <jmfthevci> coz: I tend to agree at present. Let's see how it goes when a bit more work has been done. Say at Beta1. Thanks for your response.
[14:31] <coz_> jmfthevci,  for a real nice netbook experience on the desktop I would try kubuntu-netbook
[14:32] <jmfthevci> coz: I have tried kubuntu. I found it slower than Gnome.
[14:32] <coz_> jmfthevci,  it is for regular KDE  but the netbook edition is quite suprisingly  pleasant to use
[14:33] <jmfthevci> coz: Hey, I have to run Lotus Notes as an email client. I have troubles enough.
[14:33] <coz_> jmfthevci,  oh ok :)
[14:34] <coz_> ok be back in a bit
[15:52] <notlistening> Hello, is there a reason that in daily build 11.04 no longer has a OMAP3 image?
[15:56] <hallyn_> yay!  pentadactyl.  the new vimperator.  i can use firefox in natty finally.
[16:02] <notlistening> that was under the server images?
[16:31] <Andre_Gondim> gwibber is crashed since last update
[16:56] <gyger> I am having issues with natty, i cannot seem to login to ubuntu (even safe mode) after an update, what did i do wrong?
[16:58] <yofel> gyger: try to update again I think, there was bug 654578 which was fixed like an hour ago
[16:59] <h3sp4wn> gyger: Maybe nothing it could be what they did wrong
[16:59] <IdleOne> !text
[16:59] <IdleOne> !nox
[16:59] <charlie-tca> I haven't gotten the fix here yet, but there is workaround in the bug too
[16:59] <h3sp4wn> Or switch to xdm
[17:01] <iTV> need help on how to have my desktop have different wallpaper.... thk
[17:03] <iTV> am i on the wrong place????
[17:04] <h3sp4wn> Who knows - you mean changing every hour or whatever ?
[17:05] <iTV> i mean as and when I want...
[17:05] <IdleOne> right click, change desktop background
[17:05] <Daekdroom> That question seems out of place.
[17:06] <iTV> tell me how do i know whether i out of place...
[17:07] <Daekdroom> Well, are you using Ubuntu 11.04 Natty?
[17:08] <h3sp4wn> Or some portion of it (I still cannot get the natty xen kernel to boot on this but I am running the rest)
[17:09] <gyger> h3sp4wn: I am at the command line... i am assuming "sudo apt-get update" is in order, but how to get it the rest of the way?
[17:09] <h3sp4wn> gyger: apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:09] <iTV> oh... i am out of place.... than how do i find out where to go for my topic????
[17:10] <yofel> iTV: #ubuntu or #ubuntu-beginners would be the right place
[17:10] <h3sp4wn> iTV: Maybe maybe not if you are using unity try somewhere
[17:10] <IdleOne> try somewhere?
[17:10] <IdleOne> oh I see what you meant
[17:10] <IdleOne> nm
[17:11] <h3sp4wn> (I dunno where)
[17:12] <Daekdroom> !info xserver-xorg
[17:12] <Daekdroom> That means it's 1.9, right?
[17:12] <yofel> !info xserver-xorg-core
[17:13] <Daekdroom> Ah. Thank you.
[17:15] <h3sp4wn> Is oss4 properly supported yet (Thinking about installing a desktop but I need newer r600 than maverick has) I would rather use anything other than pulseaudio or naked also (even windows)
[17:16] <yofel> s/also/alsa/ and is oss4 even in the mainline kernel? (didn't keep track of it)
[17:17] <h3sp4wn> Its not in the mainline kernel but at least with debian its trivial to use it instead without breaking much
[17:19] <yofel> hm, don't know much about sound, phonon usually works fine here with alsa or pulseaudio so I never cared, but gnome doesn't support anything besides pulseaudio now, right?
[17:19] <h3sp4wn> I don't really know about gnome (I know on solaris it works just fine with oss4)
[17:27] <gyger> h3sp4wn: do you know how to connect to wlan from command line... i need to get the updated pkgs, but its saying it cant resolve the addresses
[17:27] <h3sp4wn> gyger: Using iw or iwconfig ?
[17:28] <gyger> h3sp4wn: not sure... how would i know?
[17:28] <h3sp4wn> I dunno of how to use networkmanager for commandline
[17:29] <h3sp4wn> gyger: Try - dpkg -l \*wireless\*
[17:29] <gyger> wireless-crda and wireless-tools
[17:32] <h3sp4wn> Do you need wpa or wpa2 or nothing ?
[17:32] <yofel> for NM commandline there's 'nmcli'
[17:32] <yofel> I usually use wpa_supplicant + dhclient
[17:33] <h3sp4wn> So why cannot you now ?
[17:34] <gyger> h3sp4wn: its wpa or wpa2 (i think its set to work with either)
[17:37] <yofel> gyger: see the examples in /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/examples/ to create a wpa_supplicant config file, then use it with 'sudo wpa_supplicant -c configfile.conf -i <interface>', after that run 'sudo dhclient' and you should have a connection
[17:38] <yofel> gyger: you can also try to use your network manager setup with 'nmcli', but I never tried that yet
[17:38] <h3sp4wn> You can also use wpa_cli if you know how to
[17:40] <h3sp4wn> gyger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/541546/
[17:40] <h3sp4wn> wpa_supplicant -c wpa.conf -Dwext -iwlan0
[17:40] <h3sp4wn> if it works put it in the background with -B
[17:41] <h3sp4wn> and run dhclient
[17:41] <h3sp4wn> or you can put it in the background straight away and then use wpa_cli
[17:42] <h3sp4wn> (scan / scan_results) and status are pretty useful from in wpa_cli so you can see whats going on
[17:55] <gyger> this is really getting on my nerves
[17:57] <gyger> h3sp4wn: just to make sure i am not a retard... i am saving (or transcribing) the paste you sent as wpa.conf... then running the above command without sudo and it should connect, right?
[17:59] <yofel> gyger: in the paste you need to use your password as the psk= value
[17:59] <yofel> gyger: and your network ssid=
[17:59] <gyger> right... that i know
[17:59] <gyger> right
[17:59] <h3sp4wn> gyger: It has to run as root afaik
[18:00] <yofel> and I usually don't use -D
[18:00] <h3sp4wn> and so does wpa_cli -p /var/run/wpa_supplicant (if you need it)
[18:00] <gyger> so "sudo wpa_supplicant -c wpa.conf -iwlan0?"
[18:01] <yofel> should work
[18:01] <yofel> if your interface is wlan0
[18:01] <h3sp4wn> I didn't remember if the default is Dmac80211 or whatever the devicescape one is
[18:02] <gyger> i put in my pwd and it just sits and sits
[18:07] <gyger> h3sp4wn: i am getting this funky error; ioctl[SIOCSIWSCAN]: Operation not supported. Failed to initiate AP scan.
[18:07] <gyger> and it just keeps repeating that
[18:08] <yofel> gyger: 'sudo service network-manager stop' might help
[18:08] <yofel> NM blocks the device if it's running I think
[18:20] <gyger> yofel: just remember, folks, when all else fails and you're ready to scream and swear, go grab an ethernet cable
[18:20] <yofel> agreed
[18:22] <Daekdroom> Why grab an ethernet cable?
[18:23] <gyger> Daekdroom: bc I am frustrated w trying to get my wireless to connect over command prompt
[18:23] <Daekdroom> Ah. I thought it was about hanging yourself.
[18:24] <gyger> Daekdroom: no... i am a happy person... especially now that i am getting around bug 654578
[18:29] <gyger> yofel: IT'S ALIVE!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA! (ahem... sorry)
[18:29] <yofel> ^^
[18:33] <jamalta> The login bug was resolved?
[18:33] <jamalta> Meaning, if I go back to Ubuntu and update, I'll be able to login?
[18:33] <charlie-tca> yes
[18:33] <jamalta> I guess its worth to try :) brb
[18:33] <jamalta> charlie-tca: Ah, thanks for confirming!
[18:33] <jamalta> be back in a bit :)
[18:33] <charlie-tca> The fix is out now; just need to update
[18:36] <gyger> charlie-tca: and remember... ethernet cables are our friend
[18:36] <gyger> s
[18:37] <charlie-tca> :-)
[18:37] <gyger> well, now that I'm alive... later kids!
[18:38] <coz_> howdy doody
[18:39] <coz_> any new on gdm?
[18:40] <charlie-tca> fixed; run updates
[18:40] <coz_> charlie-tca,   gdm?  cool   started updates
[18:41] <coz_> ok let me try this:)
[18:47] <charlie-tca> hm, is coz coming back?
[19:01] <coz_> ok that is sort of fixed :)
[19:01] <coz_> anyone here with nvidia dual monitors?
[21:26] <jo-erlend> how come Ubuntu is so terribly conservative about Evolution?
[21:32] <MTecknology> So everything that depends on python is being recompiled to take out the python2.6 dependency?
[21:33] <MTecknology> jo-erlend: hm?
[21:33] <yofel> regarding python: pretty much
[21:35] <MTecknology> I think wicd is broken right now..
[21:35] <jo-erlend> MTecknology, Ubuntu seems to use very old versions of Evolution lately.
[21:36] <MTecknology> !info evolution
[21:38] <h3sp4wn> Any ideas for a way to get a ton of contact from an old sony ericsson to somewhere in a decent format via bluez
[21:38] <h3sp4wn> (i.e something like XML ,csv, txt or at least human readable
[21:44] <MTecknology> jo-erlend: http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/download.shtml <- according to this the latest and greatest will be in natty
[22:01] <jo-erlend> MTecknology, seems to me that the old Evolution will be used in Natty?
[22:05] <nit-wit> U s servers have me updated to booting back in
[22:05] <nit-wit> US
[22:15] <MTecknology> jo-erlend: according to the repos 2.32.1-0ubuntu1 is in natty and according to their website 2.32.1 is the latest version
[22:17] <jo-erlend> yes, that was the newest version when Maverick was released, but when Natty is released, it will be fairly old.
[22:17] <h3sp4wn> Natty is not frozen yet
[22:17] <h3sp4wn> and it won't be for ages
[22:17] <MTecknology> about 3mo before freeze..
[22:17] <jo-erlend> then there is a chance Evolution 3.0 might still get in Natty?
[22:18] <MTecknology> it evolution 3.0 is released by then- ya
[22:18] <MTecknology> Debian import freeze is December 30th
[22:19] <h3sp4wn> Maybe if its released later as well (Depends on release goals)
[22:19] <MTecknology> Feature freeze is February 24th
[22:20] <MTecknology> I need to get the next version of nginx dealt with and ready for debian so it gets imported
[22:20] <h3sp4wn> MTecknology: For certain (I want to use it :)
[22:22] <MTecknology> h3sp4wn: the same version of nginx will be included - i'm just splitting the package into nginx-{full,light,extras}
[22:23] <h3sp4wn> MTecknology: Are you planning on a -snapshot package (I want 0.9.2
[22:23] <MTecknology> probably not - but....
[22:24] <MTecknology> ppa:nginx/development
[22:25] <MTecknology> h3sp4wn: ^ it's a tad unstable atm - but my next upload should deal with all the problems - that'll happen once a launchpad bug is dealt with and I can verify there are no issues
[22:25] <MTecknology> h3sp4wn: https://launchpad.net/~nginx/+archive/development && https://launchpad.net/~nginx/+archive/stable && https://launchpad.net/~nginx/+archive/php5
[22:28] <h3sp4wn> I will take a look - I think I am only bothered about embedded perl (maybe even not that) I want to use node.js
[22:34] <MTecknology> h3sp4wn: embedded perl will be in nginx-extras; that's part of what's broken right now
[23:37] <BUGabundo> o/
[23:38] <BUGabundo> sooo
[23:38] <BUGabundo> I just got stuck on boot
[23:38] <BUGabundo> nothing in logs relevant
[23:38] <BUGabundo> upgraded from recovery, and now its up again
[23:38] <BUGabundo> but I'm seeing elevated use of CPU
[23:59] <bjsnider> BUGabundo, did you see this: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/reviews/2010/12/google-chrome-notebook-c48-unboxing-first-impressions.ars
[23:59] <BUGabundo> yes
[23:59] <BUGabundo> not that review
[23:59] <BUGabundo> but saw others
[23:59] <BUGabundo> and segphault tweet when he got it


[03:45] <guiverc> arraybolt3[m] (or anyone) if you have time & can, a Secure-uEFI setup (any full-disk install from list) would be appreciated; VM is okay
[03:46]  * guiverc hasn't done a BIOS full disk install, but I did one yesterday & have done a few BIOS installs without issue today on RC  (about to start another; just not full.disk install)
[03:47]  * guiverc means focal.5 (20.04.5) ^
[04:43] <arraybolt3[m]> Sounds like a plan, will try to do!
 Also ran a quick BIOS +another lang install - no prob..unable to run secure boot - sorry
[05:13] <guiverc> thanks @Leokolb, I'll run a full.disk install on bios tomorrow anyway (likely more too), but expecting it clean..
[05:14] <guiverc> if needs be, i'll fight with sony thingy & get it done there
 tks Chris..:) (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> if needs be, i'll fight with sony thingy & get it done there)
[05:14] <arraybolt3[m]> I've got Secure Boot under control. I'm a bit tied up ATM, but I will be doing the test shortly.
[05:15] <guiverc> thanks arraybolt3[m] , there is NO HURRY with it.. I'm not concerned...
 Yes - thanks arraybolt3[m] -tks for jumping in..:)
[05:26] <arraybolt3[m]> 👍
[05:26] <arraybolt3[m]> guiverc, @Leokolb: ^
[05:56] <arraybolt3[m]> guiverc: Secure boot installation of focal.5 in a VM, no error during installation, installed system booted right up. Firefox worked, shutdown and start back up worked. Looks good!
[05:57] <arraybolt3[m]> (And I am very sure Secure Boot was enabled - checked journalctl for the "Secure boot enabled" and "Kernel is locked down" messages, both of which were present.)
[06:00] <guiverc> thanks arraybolt3[m] , appreciated.