[00:00] <Slart> Karsyth: where are those gcf files stored? do you have the path?
[00:00] <Karsyth> Slart: is it possible that my drive "thinks" that there is only 2gb of space?
[00:00] <arrow> cube: look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter?highlight=%28windows%29%7C%28printer%29%7C%28up%29%7C%28setting%29
[00:00] <amenado> Juan see this nice tutorial http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm
[00:00] <icesword> hi,good morning
[00:00] <gbz> gintu: ok well if all regular users have home directorys, maybe you can find them, eg /home/gintu means gintu is a user ?
[00:00] <Juan> amenado, ubuntu wrote the menu.lst and it must be because it boots when i go thru the menu
[00:00] <Karsyth> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59546/
[00:00] <amenado> Juan modify it yourself then per your customization needs
[00:01] <Juan> amenado, but is that what causes xp to set itself as default?
[00:01] <Slart> Karsyth: that just means that find can't access the folder.. it doesn't mean there's a file named gcf there
[00:02] <Karsyth> Slart: i tried running as root and it just went to a new line with no results
[00:02] <Juan> amenado, my temp fix is every time i go off xp, boot the gutsy live cd and remove the boot flag from the xp partition
[00:02] <gintu> gbz: not all users have home directors ex /root, there should be a command to list the users and there doesn't appear to be :(
[00:02] <amenado> Juan i gave you a link to read up..
[00:02] <Slart> Karsyth: "sudo find / | grep -i gfc" didn't work?
[00:02] <amenado> Juan see this nice tutorial http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm
[00:02] <Pelo> GIn, try with sudo apt-get install gnome-core ,I think thats wil install all the required  dependencies and get you a full desktop withouth the rest of the ubuntu stuff
[00:02] <Juan> sorry, didnt catch that
[00:02] <gbz> gintu: well i am stumped ;)
[00:03] <gintu> gbz: me too, back into windows land for me x_x
[00:03] <cube> arrow, so i use samba then right?
[00:03] <Karsyth> Slart: it found 2 things, /usr/share/app-install/desktop/gfceu.desktop and /usr/share/app-install/icons/gfceu.png
[00:03] <gintu> gbz: thanks for your time.
[00:03] <Slart> Karsyth: and those two aren't using up gigabytes of your space..
[00:03] <gbz> gintu: try google if you cannot find an answer here, must be possible
[00:04] <Karsyth> Slart: let me double check
[00:04] <amenado> Juan also  man update-grub
[00:04] <Slart> Karsyth: so.. we can do this.. "sudo apt-get clean" and "sudo apt-get autoclean"
[00:04] <gintu> gbz: i have a few hours into it already and nothing comes up, i want to know how "users settings" gui does it because that's what i want
[00:04] <Pelo> gintu, what is it you are trying to do ?
[00:04] <arrow> cube, never done it myself, just knew that I've seen the page while searching on how to set up my printer.
[00:04] <Slart> Karsyth: and then you can do this "sudo find / | grep -i trash" see what kind of trash folders you can find.. these should be empty
[00:05] <gintu> Pelo: list all the user accounts on a system just like Sys->Admin->Users and Groups
[00:05] <gintu> Pelo: but from the command line
[00:05] <Pelo> gintu, man users ,  you can probably do a users -l or soemting to list the available account
[00:05] <Karsyth> Slart: holy shit, it found a ton in the trash
[00:06] <Karsyth> Slart: but its not showing up in my trash bin
[00:06] <Slart> Karsyth: told you to empty your trash =)
[00:06] <gintu> Pelo: i have looked at the man pages for all the user related commands... so man users "users currently logged in" -- i want users not logged in also
[00:06] <mauro_rioiv> Slart: i download the .deb file ... and the same error apears ...
[00:06] <Karsyth> Slart: its empty though, it doesnt let me clean it
[00:06] <gintu> Pelo: do you know how to get it to display not logged in users ?
[00:06] <Slart> Karsyth: it doesn't always do that... the trashbin is.. well .. not entirely reliable
[00:06] <Karsyth> Slart: alright, so how do i clean it out?
[00:06] <Lawrence111> Hello folks.. wrong server :)
[00:06] <Slart> mauro_rioiv: then the package is broken from the source.. you'll have to wait until they fix it..
[00:07] <mauro_rioiv> ok, tks
[00:07] <Pelo> gintu, ask in ##linux , this can be done, I'M just not 1337 enough to tell you how
[00:07] <GIn> thank you Pelo
[00:07] <gintu> Pelo: apparently google isn't either :) i'll try in linux then, thanks.
[00:07] <mixed> is it possible to uninstall ttthe latest version  of kde3 and install an earlier version of KDE  3?
[00:07] <Slart> Karsyth: the easiest and safest way would be to use nautilus... I would run this in a terminal "gksudo nautilus".. but be very careful with that nautilus window.. you can kill your entire system if you drag and drop something by mistake.. or remove the wrong folder
[00:08] <Pelo> gintu, search along the line of user permission, or groups
[00:08] <caseyz> has anyone successfully gotten webcams to work on stickam? i just saw a guyy do it
[00:08] <Slart> Karsyth: so keep any small children away.. lock up the dog and the cat.. etc etc
[00:08] <Pelo> mixed, probably you should ask in #kde
[00:08] <gintu> Pelo: what I found about groups / permissions only relates to those accounts logged in :(
[00:08] <RichW> Can data still be fed to stdin once the program has been started on linux?
[00:08] <helpmeowh> can some teach me about partition ...
[00:08] <mixed> Pelo, thank you, I will
[00:08] <helpmeowh> I'm new and wanted to install ubuntu
[00:09] <Pelo> gintu, you just need to get the list of users ?   cd /home , ls
[00:09] <Karsyth> Slart: um, i think i might have possibly put my trash in my trash "?"
[00:09] <thiefness> helpmeowh: follow the installer instructions?
[00:09] <caseyz> Anyone?
[00:09] <Karsyth> Slart: im seeing some files that look like they are associated with trash apps
[00:09] <Pelo> helpmeowh, what do you need to know
[00:09] <seb962>  just moved my HD to a new mobbo, it's an Asus m2n-mx, and now I'm getting a kernel panic: timer not connected to ioapic. I've tried booting with noapic as everyone suggest, but then my keyboard gets disabled... I'm trying to boot from the live cd, and it happens aswell! any thoughts?
[00:09] <Pelo> caseyz,  you are not being ignored this is just a busy channel , ask your question again periodicaly
[00:09] <caseyz> can i switch from video4linuxv2 to v1?
[00:09] <caseyz> ok
[00:09] <Mongo2> hi
[00:09] <helpmeowh> ok i alraeady make a partition with ext3 .... how bout mount point
[00:09] <Slart> Karsyth: ok.. what kind of files?
[00:10] <caseyz> Stickam finds my webcam, but it does not turn on, is there some sort of problem?
[00:10] <thiefness> helpmeowh: mount point for the linux partition should be /
[00:10] <caseyz> msn and skype turn it on
[00:10] <icesword> helpmeowh, usually, you need a / partition and /swap partition
[00:10] <Pelo> caseyz, I can't answer your quesiton, try searching in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org , if noone else here can ehlp you
[00:10] <genii> seb962: Perhaps try usb_handoff as an option along with noapic
[00:10] <helpmeowh> owh
[00:10] <Odd-rationale> icesword: swap not /swap.
[00:10] <caseyz> they guy i spoke with said he was on 6.10 and his webcam works perfectly
[00:10] <icesword> hmm
[00:10] <seb962> genii I'm going to do some research on that command. Thanks a lot
[00:10] <p221072> Question: I have Ubuntu on an external usb drive, now I changed laptop and the new one has an Intel Core 2 Duo Cpu, should I update the kernel to support the dual core?
[00:11] <gintu> Pelo: so that works if they have a home directory in /home only -- User settings picks up the root account also
[00:11] <Karsyth> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59547/
[00:11] <Pelo> helpmeowh,  if you are using the manual partitionning step of the instaler, you will get asked for what partiton mounts to wath in the next step
[00:11] <seb962> Oh that's it, I'm so stupid.
[00:11] <helpmeowh> ucesword .... do i need to make many partion for every /boot , /home and etc .... one partition for 1 mount point
[00:11] <seb962> The kernel is outdated... This one is a dualcore!
[00:11] <Slart> p221072: I think both use the same kernel.. unless you want to use a 64 bit kernel.. that doesn't really give you much of a performance boost
[00:11] <Pelo> gintu, the /home for the root user is /root
[00:12] <genii> seb962: dual core should not matter, the default kernel is smp enabled
[00:12] <helpmeowh> i already make 2 partition now , one is ext3 and one is swap ...
[00:12] <p221072> ok, but can I know if I'm actually taking advantage of it?
[00:12] <gintu> Pelo: can't users have their home directory in other locations and then listing the home directory in this method would break?
[00:12] <seb962> genii: Good to know. I'm a big big green novice heh.
[00:12] <Pelo> helpmeowh,  we slightly above average users like to have our /home on a seperate partiton,
[00:13] <Slart> Karsyth: ah.. those aren't deleted files.. that's icons for the trashcan and such.. but check the folder /home/karsyth/.Trash  that should be empty
[00:13] <seb962> genii: Mind you both my mouse and keyboard are ps2... Wont that prejudice the solution?
[00:13] <Karsyth> Slart: yes that folder is empty
[00:13] <Pelo> gintu, not sure, on the one computer, all the home should be in one partiton under /home,  I don'T think different users can have their /home on differennt partitons,
[00:13] <Slart> Karsyth: it's more a problem when you have more than one hard drive.. then you get one .Trash on each drive
[00:13] <helpmeowh> so Pelo .... how many partition i should create right now ?
[00:14] <Pelo> gintu,  actualy they probabaly can but they would need to be mounted under  /home
[00:14] <helpmeowh> is it 3 ??
[00:14] <techt0nix> !fixres | techt0nix
[00:14] <gintu> Pelo: well that's good enough for now I guess, thanks :) I hope to find a better way soon.
[00:14] <Slart> Karsyth: so.. you're still missing about 8GB of free disk space, right?
[00:14] <Karsyth> Slart: correct
[00:14] <genii> seb962: That option usb_handoff works often on certain chipsets, even if the mouse or keyboard is ps2 and not usb
[00:14] <Karsyth> Slart: i havent done anything since you told me to run Nautilus
[00:14] <Pelo> helpmeowh,  3 is what I have for basic work ,    5-10 gig for / in ext3,  2xRAM ( max 2gig) for swap , the rest for  /home in ext3
[00:15] <helpmeowh> pelo owh occay
[00:15] <helpmeowh> thx ...
[00:15] <helpmeowh> so i will create 3 right
[00:15] <seb962> genii: Well, you gave me something new to try and revolve around. I really appreciate it, thanks!!!!
[00:15] <Pelo> helpmeowh,  you can always add more partitons later , you are not stuck with any of this
[00:15] <Karsyth> Slart: i have Nautilus open, where should i go from here?
[00:15] <laz0r> hi #ubuntu, i have this problem -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde/+bug/79101 but on ubuntu gutsy; is there by any chance a known solution for this?
[00:15] <caseyz> http://pastebin.com/m23468f0d
[00:15] <genii> seb962: Please report back results, either good or not
[00:15] <seb962> By the way, if I manage to boot the system I already had installed in my HD... Will I be able to run it? Or I'll need to reinstall ubuntu?
[00:16] <helpmeowh> so the remaining or the biggest size of the partition will go to /home
[00:16] <seb962> Genii: I sure will my friend :)
[00:16] <Pelo> laz0r, bugs listed in launchpad have fixes posted there as well when they become available
[00:16] <Slart> Karsyth: run this command in a terminal "du /* -sh" and pastebin the result..
[00:17] <genii> seb962: If the old install works will depend greatly on the differences in hardware between the old and new system. So impossible to tell
[00:17] <caseyz> http://pastebin.com/m23468f0d
[00:17] <Pelo> helpmeowh, that is where all your data and settings are saved,  and where you actualy work from , the rest is just executables and os stuff
[00:17] <seb962> genii: It'll be fun to try. brb
[00:17] <Karsyth> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59548/
[00:18] <helpmeowh> Pelo is swap is needed ..... can i know is swap will maker processing process faster than windows ??
[00:18] <goose> I need help getting my java to work in firefox
[00:19] <Pelo> helpmeowh,  swap is basicaly a memory extension to your hdd,  I don'T use much of it myself but it is used by most progs at some points, you don'T need a big one ,  2 gig max, if you have a lot of memory you can even go lower
[00:19] <Slart> Karsyth: you're not even close to using all of your 20GB hard drive.. what does df -hl output?
[00:19] <goose> I can't get the "add photos" applet on facebook (which is a java applet) to work. does anyone know of a fix for this?
[00:19] <Pelo> goose, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[00:19] <helpmeowh> Pelo ... What is Primary and logical .... which one i should use ??
[00:20] <Pelo> helpmeowh,  you can only get up to 4 primairy partitons on a hdd,  anymore and it must be 3 primaries and the rest in logical
[00:20] <Karsyth> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59549/
[00:20] <helpmeowh> occay
[00:20] <goose> Pelo, sun-java5-plugin is already the newest version.
[00:20]  * Pelo corrects helpmeowh 's spelling to okay
[00:21] <Slart> Karsyth: did you do the "sudo apt-get clean" and "sudo apt-get autoclean" ?
[00:21] <Karsyth> Slart: yes
[00:21] <helpmeowh> owh okay
[00:21] <Pelo> goose, check the firefox settings,  make sure javascript is enabled,  that is mroe likely your issue
[00:21] <Karsyth> Slart: ill run them again real quickj
[00:21] <goose> Pelo, that was the first thing I checked
[00:22] <Karsyth> Slart: still using space
[00:22] <Pelo> goose, might try looking this up in the forum , maybe someone posted about it  www.ubuntuforums.org
[00:22] <Slart> Karsyth: then run this "du /usr/* -sh"
[00:22]  * Pelo wonders if GIn  managed to get gnome installed
[00:22] <goose> Pelo, I checked them out, but I was hoping I might get a more immediate response on IRC than I would on the forums.
[00:22] <Slart> Karsyth: to see what's in your /usr folder
[00:23] <GIn> Pelo, got an error when trying to run startx
[00:23] <laz0r> Pelo, mmh, there doesn't seem to be any kind of fix on launchpad, so i guess there is none, thanks anyways
[00:23] <Karsyth> Slart: a few GB in there. all i have installed in there is enemy territory which takes 900mb though
[00:23] <helpmeowh> owh okay .. i will go out first
[00:23] <helpmeowh> thx all
[00:23] <GIn> it says no valid fontpath could be found
[00:23] <Pelo> goose, I meant searching, not posting,  you could also try asking in #firefox, maybe they know what needs to bedone
[00:23] <Karsyth> Slart: anything else i didnt touch
[00:23] <Pelo> GIn, what is the error ?
[00:23] <GIn> Pelo, it says no valid fontpath could be found
[00:23] <Slart> Karsyth: and "du /home/karsyth/* -sh" ?
[00:23] <goose> Pelo, thanks for the suggestion
[00:24] <caseyz> this webcam issue is making me mad
[00:24] <Karsyth> Slart: around 500mvb
[00:24] <Pelo> GIn, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ,  use the default answers provided unless you absolutely know better
[00:24] <Karsyth> Slart: 500mb *
[00:24] <GIn> Pelo, I done that already
[00:24] <Chris|> anyone know a good vnc server/viewer?
[00:24] <Pelo> caseyz, webcam in linux is a pain
[00:24] <caseyz> it sure it
[00:24] <caseyz> i just want it to work with stickam, my friend plugged his in and bam it works :/
[00:25] <Pelo> GIn, hold on , let me see if I can't find a font pacakge related to gnome
[00:25] <Karsyth> Slart: what do i do about those files i found in the bin eariler?
[00:25] <Karsyth> Slart: i think those might have been it.
[00:26] <techt0nix> what is the .conf file called that has my res that my video card trys to run?
[00:26] <Slart> Karsyth: those files weren't in the trash bin.. they were in /usr/lib and such..
[00:26] <techt0nix> i been there once i just cant remember
[00:26] <GIn> Pelo, I'm thiking to mount mu home dir over ssh through some program on WIndows so I can edit files in windows
[00:26] <Pelo> GIn, if all you need is to edit txt files, why not just use nano ?
[00:26] <Karsyth> Slart: well can i delete them anyways? they are associated with steam and wine
[00:27] <Karsyth> Slart: which is what i was trying to do in the first place
[00:27] <Slart> Karsyth: what files are you talking about?
[00:27] <Karsyth> Slart: ill show you
[00:27] <GIn> Pelo, not only edit files, not also transfer files
[00:27] <GIn> with a mountpoint in windows, I can drag and drop
[00:27] <Cyr4x> does anyoe use audacious on gutsy?
[00:27] <Cyr4x> i've got an annoying issue with equalizer
[00:28] <Slart> Cyr4x: sometimes.. yes
[00:28] <Pelo> GIn do you mind having the full ubuntu destkop installed ?  you can always remove the extra stuff yuou don'T need ?    sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[00:28] <Cyr4x> everytime i start the program equalizer bars change
[00:28] <snypzz> just wanted to say thank you for this channel 24 / 7
[00:28] <snypzz> much appreciated !!!
[00:29] <peleg> Is there a way to control "encoding" or any other locale options in "writer"? I wrote a document in Hebrew, and exported it to .doc - I can read it well in openOffice, but my friend has Microsoft Word and she sees everything in Gibberish. Any ideas?
[00:29]  * Pelo is now realy puzzles has to how to just install basic gnome from the repos
[00:29] <Cyr4x> even if i save my preset
[00:29] <Slart> Cyr4x: I've never used the equalizer.. I just have it as a quick way of playing wav-files or a singe mp3
[00:29] <Cyr4x> everytime program stars equalizer is changed
[00:29] <Karsyth> Slark: jesus it took me a long time to JUSt copy it
[00:29] <Slart> peleg: does microsoft word support hewbrew?
[00:29] <Karsyth> Slark: im pasting now
[00:29] <GIn> Pelo, I'll try that
[00:30] <seb962> Well, it seems that the usb_handoff worked, but now I'm having another concern consequent to the last one heh.
[00:30] <peleg> slart: yes, completely
[00:30] <Cyr4x> so what do you use as a main music/radio player?
[00:30] <Karsyth> Slark: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59550/
[00:30] <Karsyth> Slark: its a big one
[00:30] <Slart> peleg: oh.. then I have no idea..
[00:30] <caseyz> hmmm
[00:30] <caseyz> idea
[00:30] <caseyz> brb
[00:31] <peleg> slart: thanks.
[00:31] <GIn> need to get 400MB :S
[00:31] <Karsyth> Slark: thats what comes up when i run sudo find / | grep -i trash
[00:31] <seb962> Whenever I'm booting from the livecd using noapic and usb_jhandoff options, my monitor goes out of frequency (it jumps to 64mhx, my max is 60), so I can't see anything but I hear the system boot. Any ideas??
[00:31] <peleg> any other ideas buddies?
[00:31]  * GIn goes get a coffee
[00:31] <Yashy> I'm getting spontaneous reboots. If I do "last | grep reboot" they all end at 17:11. I've not created any root or user level cronjobs.
[00:31] <Cyr4x> i've tried also exaile. that's what i want, but the sound quality sux
[00:31] <Slart> Karsyth: ah.. those you can delete.. yes.. /root/.Trash is the trashbin for root..
[00:32] <Karsyth> Slart: how do i delete them, through Nautilus?
[00:32] <Karsyth> Slart: because they dont show up in my trash bin
[00:32] <Slart> Karsyth: use that nautilus window you opened using gksudo
[00:32] <techt0nix> can noone tell me the conf file with my monitor res?
[00:32] <Dr_willis> Delete the trash and it puts the trash back in the trash. :)
[00:32] <Dr_willis> This is when it pays to  learn the shell.
[00:32] <Juan> im on gutsy and after todays update i have no sound
[00:32] <Dr_willis> techt0nix,  all of X is confiogured by the xorg.conf file
[00:32] <Pelo> GIn,  sudo apt-get install gnome is suppose to get you tthe full gnome desktop without the ubuntu extras,  I've gettiung this from the packages.ubuntu.com site
[00:32] <Slart> Karsyth: I think you can use.. shift+delete to "delete forever.. I never want it back.. just do it, trust me"
[00:32] <Dr_willis> techt0nix,  the moniotor modelines are either in there, or the video drivers get them from the monitor  when X starts
[00:33] <Thurin1> Can Ubuntu handle 2 mouse inputs at the same time? - when I try to run inputattach --mman /dev/ttyS0 I get the error "cannot set line discipline" (Yes I also have the extra mouse in my xorg.conf.. but still only one, the USB one, works. - any suggestions? Or is this not desirable under Ubuntu?
[00:33] <Juan> i have no sound on alsa
[00:33] <Karsyth> Slart: yep this is definitly it, it says its around 9GB
[00:33] <Karsyth> Slart: funny how it doesnt show up anywhere else
[00:33] <Slart> Dr_willis: the shell is nice.. but a typo can destroy so much...an extra space and here come mr reinstall for a surprise visit =)
[00:34] <Karsyth> Slart: maybe because its under a fake C: drive?
[00:34] <Dr_willis> Thurin1,  i have several machines with more then 1 mouse. I just got  /dev/input/mice for the main inpt
[00:34] <techt0nix> Dr_willis, i was there before i just cant remember what it was it was not xorg.conf, it didnt have anything in the file but my monitor res if that helps
[00:34] <Thurin1> Dr_willis: Are they all USB/PS2 mice?
[00:34] <Slart> Karsyth: nope.. it's because it's in the root trashbin.. since you're never logged on as root.. you won't be able to empty it
[00:34] <Karsyth> Slart: i think that fixed my problem
[00:34] <Karsyth> Slart: man, you have no idea how much i appreciate your help
[00:34] <Thurin1> Dr_willis: One of mine is a Serial the other USB - the dual set works well in FreeBSD but ... not here for some reason
[00:34] <Dr_willis> Slart,  and with Nautulus running as root.. you have 2 BIGGER isues.. #1 - you may forget WHICH nautulus window is running as root. thus messing up things.. OR a miss-drag can  render the system totally messed up. I will stick with the shell.
[00:34] <Slart> Karsyth: yay.. you've got your 10 GB free now?
[00:35] <Karsyth> Slart: i was about to format
[00:35] <Karsyth> Slart: im almost positive i got it back
[00:35] <Slart> Karsyth: you're welcome
[00:35] <gr1ff1n> hello
[00:35] <Karsyth> Slart: thank you for being so patient with me and EVERYTHING :D
[00:35] <Dr_willis> Slart,  for root type file managment, i sticck with a bright red xterm, running mc. :)
[00:35] <Slart> Dr_willis: indeed.. the cat jumping your mouse-arm.. and once again you're downloading ubuntu install disks =)
[00:35] <Slart> Karsyth: no worries.. nice to be able to help
[00:36] <Dr_willis> Slart,  this is why i often reccomend peoplke set up root's gnome themes to be BRIGHT RED> :)
[00:36] <gr1ff1n> can anyone help me with that : "intltoolize: 'po/Makefile.in.in' is out of date: use '--force' to overwrite", don t know what to do anymore ? pls
[00:36] <Slart> Dr_willis: that's not so bad.. never thought about that..
[00:36] <Thurin1> Dr_willis: A few distro's already do that
[00:36] <Karsyth> Dr_willis: how do i do that? lol
[00:36] <Dr_willis> Thurin1,   a serial mouse would be /dev/input/psaux i belive. I dont even have a ps2 mouse any more.  all usb ones seem to use /dev/input/mice for me.
[00:36] <Thurin1> Well not a "few" but I know at least two that I have tried that were like that - I think one of them was Vector Linux
[00:37] <Thurin1> Dr_willis: Let me give that a shot..
[00:37] <Pelo> gr1ff1n, use that same command that got you the error msg but put --force at the end
[00:37] <Juan> sound on gutsy stopped working ofr me today, any help?
[00:37] <Dr_willis> I see people in here  complaining that the root users themes are not the same as the normal user.. :)  I feel they should default to a Huge Flashing RED theme. :)
[00:37] <gr1ff1n> pelo: I tried it, but still the same
[00:38] <Dr_willis> I forget how to set the root users gnome themes however.. run some gnome theme tool as root and set it i guess. :)
[00:38] <Pelo> Juan, review what you have done before it stopped working ,  did you play with alsa settings ? did you play with permissions ? do you still hve a volume icon in your pannel ?
[00:38] <Pelo> gr1ff1n,  what's the command ?
[00:38] <Juan> nothing
[00:38] <Juan> all i can think of is a vlc update
[00:38] <Karsyth> going to reboot, brb
[00:38] <Juan> btw oss IS working
[00:38] <gr1ff1n> ./autogene.sh, trying to install awn-curve
[00:38] <Pelo> Juan,  check the vlc setting make sure they use alsa
[00:38] <Juan> but why did alsa stop working
[00:38] <ninj1> hey whats a good binary for burning mp3 music discs for my car?
[00:39] <Juan> its not just vlc, the system sound with alsa is gone
[00:39] <apecross> hi
[00:39] <Pelo> gr1ff1n, that would appear to be a problem with the makefile in the source you are buildign , not much I can do about it
[00:40] <apecross> can u help me i need to mont my zen mp3 player do u know how to???
[00:40] <gr1ff1n> Pelo: thanks anyway
[00:40] <Pelo> Juan, review the alsamixer settings make suer nothing is muted
[00:40] <Juan> ok
[00:40] <Pelo> apecross,  usb ? it should mount to the destkop automaticaly
[00:40] <peleg> can someone explain me these shortcuts? - C-x means ctrl-x. M-x means what?
[00:41] <Slart> peleg: Meta+X.. usually Alt I think
[00:41] <Juan> omg pcm was muted
[00:41] <Juan> why?
[00:41] <Juan> lol
[00:41] <Pelo> peleg, might also be window key
[00:41] <apecross> Pelo, it does not^^
[00:41] <Juan> thanks Pelo
[00:41] <Starnestommy> or escape
[00:41] <ninj1> what's a good burning software for linux so i can burn an mp3 disc for my car?
[00:41] <Slart> peleg: you can change what key the meta key is.. it's in .. perhaps keyboard settings
[00:41] <peleg> Pelo: probably not; it's on texinfo manual
[00:41] <Juan> maybe someone h4x0r3d me
[00:41] <Slart> ninj1: brasero is one
[00:41] <Enron> hi I added a file in /etc/cron.d/file with this: 0-55/5 *        * * *   root    /usr/bin/perl /usr/lib/cgi-bin/awstats.pl -update - config=blah.com >/dev/null
[00:41] <Pelo> apecross, open a terminal and type   blkid see if you can tell if the comp sees your zen
[00:41] <Enron> will this work?
[00:41] <ninj1> thanks slart
[00:41] <peleg> slart: but what *should* it be, by default?
[00:42] <Pelo> apecross, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[00:42] <Enron> If I want to run this command every 2 min how would I do it: /usr/bin/perl /usr/lib/cgi-bin/awstats.pl -update - config=blah.com >/dev/null
[00:42] <apecross> pelo it show just my hd
[00:43] <Pelo> Enron, I think you want to add taht line by editing   with sudo crontab -e ,  and you can change the time to some ting close to see if it works,
[00:43] <apecross> /dev/sda1: UUID="e13883ad-cfc6-47c7-9a53-5f227b1211a3" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
[00:43] <apecross> /dev/sda5: UUID="bf41b9d4-a891-48c6-bd62-d1f00b21a5e3" TYPE="swap"
[00:43] <Pelo> apecross, do you have other usb device you can use to test ?
[00:43] <Enron> Pelo can you show me what it should look like
[00:43] <Slart> peleg: difficult questions.. I've changed mine.. don't know what the default is
[00:44] <apecross> u mean like an ipod??
[00:44] <Pelo> Enron, it will look like what you typed but it will be a line in the crontab file for root, which your get with sudo crontab -e
[00:44] <Pelo> apecross, or just your basic usb flash drive ,
[00:44] <apecross> ok
[00:44] <Pelo> apecross, just so you can test that it,s not the usb outlet that is defective
[00:47]  * Pelo feels like playing around with conky but he's not sure what else he could add
[00:47] <Thurin1> Conky?
[00:47] <Thurin1> :(
[00:47] <Thurin1> Dr_willis: No psaux and I really do not feel like doing a makedev, not now anyways.. ah well
[00:47] <Pelo> Thurin1, conky is an applet that displays system info on your desktop , as part of the background
[00:47] <Thurin1> Pelo: I know what it is
[00:47] <Pelo> Thurin1, you do not like conky ?
[00:47] <apecross> pelo my pen drive is working
[00:48] <Thurin1> No I do not
[00:48] <Thurin1> But to each his own I suppose
[00:48] <Pelo> apecross, might be specific to that type of device then,  in other comps or on other oses, does it mount as a usb drive or does it need a special app ?
[00:49] <Pelo> Thurin1, I ust wanted someting with a little less resource consumptuion,  I made it look nice
[00:49] <Slart> peleg: add the "keyboard indicator" to the gnome panel.. there you can right click on it.. select "show current layout".. that shows you where your meta keys are.. and super keys etc etc
[00:49] <basskozz> Need help getting hellanzb + SSL to work, anyone care to lend a hand?
[00:49] <DrZaius55> Is this an appropriate place to discuss hardy?
[00:49] <Starnestommy> DrZaius55: #ubuntu+1 is
[00:49] <DrZaius55> Fair enough.. thanks
[00:49] <Pelo> brb
[00:49] <apecross> pelo it mount as an external hd
[00:51] <Slart> well.. I'm off.. good night everyone
[00:51] <Pelo> g'night Slart
[00:51] <Pelo> Thurin1, http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capturehe2.png
[00:52]  * Pelo cheers at the arrival of nickrud
[00:52] <Dr_willis> Thurin1,  the makdev stuff has been outdated for ages i thought.  It may be some modiule aint getting loaded. I havent messed with ps2 devices in ages
[00:53] <Dr_willis> Thurin1,  its /dev/psaux it seems . Not /dev/input/psaux - on this machine
[00:53] <Thurin1> Dr_willis: It's not PS2 :| It's serial that's why I said /dev/ttyS0
[00:53] <nontitle> hi everyone
[00:53] <Dr_willis> Thurin1,  crw-rw---- 1 root root 10, 1 2008-03-03 13:19 /dev/psaux
[00:53] <nontitle> I've installed ubuntu onto a USB stick and I'm using a CD to boot off it, as I usually bring it to friend's houses. I've modified the gdm script in /etc/init.d to automatically reconfigure X each time ubuntu is run. But I've run into a problem.
[00:54] <Dr_willis> Thurin1,  ahh.. egads man.. thats... WAY old. :)
[00:54] <Thurin1> PS2/USB has no problem it's the serial mouse that has a problem
[00:54] <nontitle> One of my friends uses an ATI video card, and I use an nVidia video card at home. Whenever I go to install the ATI drivers, though, it wants to uninstall the nVidia drivers. Now I could probably get around that, but will this break anything if I have both drivers installed at once?
[00:54] <damaltor> did anyone here ever use lcd4linux? everything works fine, just want some hints =)
[00:54] <Dr_willis> Thurin1,  I forget what  the serial devices are even called. :) been so long.
[00:54] <Thurin1> Dr_willis: Yes it is - but by tonight I will have no choice ;D - my USB optical is on it's last legs
[00:54] <basskozz> Besides the Ubuntu Forums, where is a good place to ask a question regarding: hellanzb+SSL ?
[00:54] <Pelo> nontitle, set it to always use vese that should make it able to run on all cards
[00:54] <damaltor> Dr_willis: /dev/ttyS# ? :)
[00:54] <Pelo> nontitle, vesa
[00:54] <Thurin1> Dr_willis: How dare you forget - never forget! XD
[00:55] <Thurin1> Yes it is /dev/ttyS0 slack had it
[00:55] <Dr_willis> Thurin1,   I actually had several serial terminals on my liniux machines years ago.
[00:55] <nontitle> yeah, I have that already working
[00:55] <Pelo> basskozz, hellanzb forums ?
[00:55] <Dr_willis> back when it was Cua## or somthing.
[00:55] <Thurin1> Dr_willis: Very cool
[00:55] <nontitle> but I want the hardware acceleration with it
[00:55] <Thurin1> Dr_willis: It still is on MUlinux
[00:55] <basskozz> Pelo, where can I find the hellanzb forums?
[00:55] <basskozz> Pelo, where can I find the hellanzb forums?
[00:55]  * nickrud finds it amuzing to have ttyS* without serial ports
[00:55] <nontitle> I just need a way to have nvidia-glx and xorg-driver-fglrx installed at the same time
[00:55] <basskozz> oops sorry for the double post, finger slipped
[00:55] <xp_prg> anyone here?
[00:55] <Dr_willis> Thurin1,  that new Logitech VX Nano Mouse is nice. :) a micro-usb dongle..
[00:56] <xp_prg> anyone want to help me with creation of a vmware image of a small program I made for an opensource project?
[00:56] <Pelo> nontitle, that's over my head I'm afraid  , there are limitations to live cd ,  you might want to dl the .deb for the restricted driver and hve it availalbe on your usb stick in the /apt/cache folder
[00:56] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. I think i have some serial to ps2 adaptors somewhere in my big-box-o-old-adaptors somewhere. :)
[00:56] <Pelo> basskozz, check on their website
[00:56] <xxxx443354> Ctrl - Alt - delete.... on windows brings up that task thing.... how do i set it up to do the smae on ubuntu?
[00:56] <nontitle> Pelo: I'm not using the live cd, I'm running ubuntu off a USB stick
[00:56] <nickrud> nontitle: the do conflict at the package level, you'd have to modify the packages themselves. But the nvidia is only an apt-get install away
[00:56] <Pelo> nickrud, you have unusual amusements
[00:57] <Dr_willis> xp_prg,  a vmware image is normally for a whole OS. Not just a program.   There are premade ubuntu  and jeos vmware images at the vmware appliance web site.
[00:57] <damaltor> Dr_willis: yeah, got one of theese boxes too... DEEP in cellar, but sometimes useful though
[00:57] <nickrud> Pelo: you're not the first (today, even) to say that
[00:58] <Pelo> nontitle, live enviromeent I mean,  such as a usb stick ,  put the deb for the restreicted drives in the /apt/cache folder or where ever the .deb files are kept that should allow you to isntall the restricted driver when you need it
[00:58] <peleg> Slart: still: I ask what the shortcut M-x means? what meta-key *should* it be?
[00:58] <xxxx443354> Ctrl - Alt - delete.... on windows brings up that task thing.... how do i set it up to do the smae on ubuntu?
[00:58]  * Pelo is starting to think nickrud is a bit kinky
[00:58] <nontitle> okay, I'll try that
[00:58] <Dr_willis> peleg,  meta key = alt, or ctrl.. :)  alt key i think...
[00:58] <syke> now that gcc-4.3 is released, will someone build a proper package for it and transfer gcc-snapshot to the gcc 4.4 trunk?
[00:58] <apecross> pelo i found on google some problem with MTP player
[00:58] <potato> kinky lol\\
[00:58] <Dr_willis> ^c = control C   M-C  = alt-c
[00:58] <Pelo> xxxx443354, menu > systms> prefs > keyboard shortctus
[00:58] <nontitle> Pelo, WHAT? keep 3 feet away from nickrud
[00:58] <damaltor> peleg: try windows key... in some funny way it was called "master key" in some distros
[00:59] <damaltor> peleg: so type [windows]+x
[00:59] <xp_prg> Dr_willis, I know that, my laptop does not have enough memory to make one though, I need your help
[00:59] <nontitle> In KDE I think it's called Super L
[00:59] <Pelo> nontitle,  I prefer half-a-continent away :-)
[00:59] <nontitle> lol
[00:59]  * nickrud sniffs
[00:59] <damaltor> xp_prg: if you want to only run a single program, you ought to think about wine
[00:59]  * Pelo is getting confused by his own off topics
[00:59] <basskozz> Pelo where can I find the hellanzb forums, I can't seem to find them on the hellanzb web site, all I find is bug tracker
[01:00]  * Pelo pats nickrud on the back , with a ten foot pole
[01:00] <Lycade> ok, now that I've been trying this for awhile, I'm tired of doing it on my own. 1) LiveCD boot fails. It gives a blank screen and locks up after loading all processes. For 32-bit and 64-bit. 2) I installed using the alternate CD. Trying to boot, both normal and recovery mode, and it fails. I get to a black screen and the laptop locks up.
[01:00] <peleg> damaltor: tried, thanks... didn't work, though.
[01:00] <Pelo> basskozz, I 'm not saying there are hellanzb forums, but if you want help iwth that particular app you should see what they can offer
[01:00] <Yashy> I'm getting spontaneous reboots. If I do "last | grep reboot" they all end at 17:11. I've not created any root or user level cronjobs.
[01:01] <peleg> Dr_willis: tried alt as well. well, never mind - maybe the tutorial (for texinfo) is not so good... :-)
[01:01] <damaltor> peleg: well, then you will have no more real chances... a virtual environment takes up MUCH more memory then a single wine-loaded application
[01:01] <damaltor> Lycade: when does that black screen come?
[01:01] <peleg> damaltor: did you mean to talk to someone else there?
[01:01] <Pelo> Yashy, anyting that might be interfeering with the power to your computer causing it to restart ?
[01:01] <Lycade> damaltor, it comes after all proccesses are loaded (on the liveCD) with an "ok" after them, which is usually a few after the gnome display driver.
[01:02] <Dr_willis> peleg,  with emacs the escape key - is also somehow the meta-key
[01:02] <damaltor> peleg: yes, sry =)
[01:02] <Lycade> On the installed version, it gets to the end of the Ubuntu with the loading bar.
[01:02] <peleg> Dr_willis: thanks
[01:02] <Dr_willis> peleg,  whats it a tutorial/docs for anyway?
[01:02] <peleg> texinfo
[01:02] <peleg> http://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/manual/texinfo/texinfo.html
[01:02] <Kiron> hi all who use proftp here?
[01:03] <peleg> there are a lot of keys for emacs there, but I can't handle it; it looks so unfriendly... ;-)
[01:03] <damaltor> Lycade: had that thing too. a very unusal solution worked for me: just wait a few secs and hit a key, the black screen came always right after boot and seemed to be kinda screensaver
[01:03] <revilodraw> how can i tell how hot my cpu is?
[01:03] <Pelo> revilodraw, read the manual ?
[01:03] <Karsyth> Slart: whats the command for searching files again?
[01:03] <damaltor> peleg: i dont like emacs either... \o/ VI \o/
[01:03] <Pelo> revilodraw,  nvm I missread your qwuesitono
[01:03] <Lycade> damaltor, I had thought it might be the same thing. However, my laptop gets locked up. I can't even turn caps lock on/off.
[01:03] <ader10> Is vnc over nx any faster than regular vnc?
[01:03] <Dr_willis> !info texinfo
[01:03] <ubotu> texinfo (source: texinfo): Documentation system for on-line information and printed output. In component main, is optional. Version 4.8.dfsg.1-6 (gutsy), package size 292 kB, installed size 2116 kB
[01:04] <Pelo> revilodraw, in the terminal type sensor , or sensors, I can'T remember which
[01:04] <Dr_willis> ader10,  i would be very much spuprised if it was faster
[01:04] <damaltor> Lycade: did you change anything in xorg.conf, or installed any drivers like display / nvidia / ati? or does this come directly after fresh install?
[01:04] <ader10> Dr_willis: thanks
[01:05] <tsmith0> hello, I recently started using ubuntu and i want to get all 3 of my monitors working. i have an ati 1900xt and a geforce 6100 on my motherboard; however i can only get one of them to work at a time. any suggestions?
[01:05] <ader10> Dr_willis: Have you ever won an award for sitting on irc helping people?
[01:05] <Lycade> damaltor, I only installed Ubuntu. I haven't gotten it to load at all from there.
[01:05] <Pelo> !dualhead | tsmith0
[01:05] <ubotu> tsmith0: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[01:05] <genii> !helpersnack | Dr_willis
[01:05] <ubotu> Dr_willis: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[01:05] <Dr_willis> ader10,  ive gotten a lot of creative  words tossed at me - does that count?
[01:05] <damaltor> Lycade: Uh Oh... try to choose "recovery mode" in GRUB startup menu. does that work?
[01:05] <genii> ader10: We feed him cookies
[01:05] <Karsyth> anyone know why i still have wine files installed after removing them?
[01:06] <Pelo> Karsyth, removing how ?
[01:06] <Lycade> damaltor, No. That froze as well.
[01:06] <Karsyth> add / remove
[01:06] <ader10> Dr_willis: it doesn't count enough :P You should get canonical to award the most helpful people on #ubuntu somehow :P
[01:06] <Dr_willis> peleg, Im missing somthing here.. what does making a texinfo file. have to do with the meta keys? :) the text editors normally make use of those..
[01:06] <Dr_willis> ader10,  perferablay an award with a check, for my housepayment :)
[01:06] <Pelo> Karsyth, that just gets rid of the application, not he settings files or the data
[01:07] <damaltor> Lycade: that must be a very hard problem. did you try to use same cd in another computer? did you do the "check cd for errors" in cd startup menu?
[01:07] <Karsyth> Pelo: how do i clean my system of all wine / steam / anything else ive installed in wine related file?
[01:07] <Lycade> damaltor, I've done both. The cd was free of errors, and it did load on another computer.
[01:07] <peleg> Dr_willis: it's a part that explains about emacs, a well integrated editor with emacs
[01:07] <Pelo> Karsyth, sudo rm -r ~/.wine
[01:07] <damaltor> Karsyth: 1. apt-get remove wine 2. apt-get autoremove 3. rm -rf ~/.wine
[01:07] <Pelo> Karsyth, is steam a window app or a linux app ?
[01:07] <Scunizi> anyone know how to get to the harddrive on a dell vostro? It suddenly thinks the hd doesn't exist so I want to make sure it's seated properly.
[01:08] <Dr_willis> peleg, Ok. Your emacs - settings/editor are proberly the issue then. It may be the window manager is grabbing the key sequence also.
[01:08] <Karsyth> Pelo: wine
[01:08] <Pelo> Karsyth, that command I gave you ( as well as damaltor ) should take care of it
[01:08] <ader10> I love how I can ask the simplest questions and get an answer here... I can look like a complete fool and still have my problem solved :P
[01:08] <Dr_willis> peleg,  i got a book on emaca and they always use the 'esc-c' type  stuff instead of 'meta-c' in their docs.. which is annoying. :) but i perfer vi!
[01:08] <damaltor> Lycade: ...what the... is there anything special about that computer? is it a notebook? is there any special hardware?
[01:08] <Pelo> Karsyth, you might have to remvoe any menu entries manualy
[01:08] <Karsyth> Pelo: how do i do that?
[01:09] <Karsyth> Pelo: when i ran that command it just went to a new line, is that supposed to happen?
[01:09] <GIn> Pelo, still installing :\
[01:09] <Pelo> Karsyth, right click applications > edit menu
[01:09] <damaltor> Karsyth: yes
[01:09] <Dr_willis> well bbl. :)
[01:09] <Pelo> Karsyth, pretty much
[01:09] <Lycade> It is a notebook. An Hp Pavillion dv9009nr Notebook with AMD Turion 64 x2 (dual core processors)...
[01:09] <damaltor> Karsyth: no output means no errors =)
[01:09] <peleg> Dr_willis: well, I prefer SciTE... ;-)
[01:09] <Pelo> Karsyth, what were you expecting to happen ?
[01:09] <Lycade> damaltor,  Thats it. Just a standard HP notebook. =/
[01:09] <Karsyth> Pelo: not sure, im still new ish to linux
[01:10] <damaltor> Lycade: ok... Linux on notebooks is a funny thing, but my 3 notebooks work fine with ubuntu. give me a sec
[01:10] <Pelo> Karsyth, that's how decent OSes work,  no needless bells and wistles
[01:10] <Karsyth> Pelo: so wine and steam should now be removeed?
[01:11] <Lycade> damaltor, I agree. I've had 3 that didn't have problems as well. This is the first one that did all of this to me. -_- I do know that I have an nVidia Geforce 6150 graphics card. I feel like it might be a display issue with that card.
[01:11] <markrian> Problem: when I hit Ctrl+Alt+F[123456], instead of taking me to the relevant virtual terminal, my monitor enters standby mode. Pressing (Ctrl+)Alt+F7 brings me back to X without any problems, but I like my VTs! Any help as to how to begin fixing this?
[01:11] <Pelo> Karsyth, I do understand what you mean tho, there might hve been a > commnad cmplete , line or soemting
[01:11] <Karsyth> Pelo: yeah
[01:11] <ironfoot_495> I'm having a lot of trouble using sacreem is there something better than screem on gusty?
[01:11] <Lycade> Also, damaltor, thank you for this assistance.
[01:11] <ironfoot_495> screem
[01:11] <ironfoot_495> editor
[01:11] <Pelo> Karsyth, you removed the app with add /remove, you now removed the data folder with sudo rm -f  , and you got rid of any leftover menu entries,  yep, that's all of it
[01:11] <damaltor> Lycade: think so too... but wait a sec, i maybe have found something
[01:11] <damaltor> Lycade: give me a minute
[01:11] <kindofabuzz> any Gnome 2.22 debs out yet?
[01:12] <Pelo> ironfoot_495, what is screem ?
[01:12] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, in #ubuntu+1
[01:12] <kindofabuzz> k thanks
[01:12] <ironfoot_495> I'm having a lot of trouble using screem is there something better than screem on gusty?
[01:12] <damaltor> Lycade: do you know a bit about HP notebooks? is there another model similar to yours?
[01:12] <Pelo> ironfoot_495, what is screem ?
[01:12] <JimboDeLimbo> hello
[01:12] <JimboDeLimbo> having some trouble with gparted
[01:12] <Karsyth> Pelo: ok so now im set to re-install wine and steam?
[01:12] <Karsyth> Pelo: ok, thank you :D
[01:12] <GIn> peleg, worked :)
[01:13] <Karsyth> Pelo: lag..
[01:13] <GIn> Pelo, worked
[01:13] <ironfoot_495> Pelo: html&php editor
[01:13] <Lycade> damaltor, I do not have a model here that is similiar. The pavilion 9000 series are all about the same, I believe.
[01:13] <Pelo> jimmygoon, what is the issue
[01:13] <Pelo> GIn,  which one ubuntu-desktop or just gnome ?
[01:13] <Pelo> ironfoot_495, gedit
[01:13] <GIn> ubuntu-desktop
[01:13] <GIn> but it still got errors
[01:13] <GIn> although X does start
[01:13] <damaltor> Lycade: maybe this helps, did a good job for my old fujitsu notebook: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/hp.html
[01:13] <ironfoot_495> yeah I think you're right.
[01:14] <christopher> hola
[01:14] <Pelo> GIn, cause right after you left , I found the correct package to install just gnome,   sudo apt-get install gnome ,   I'd missed it
[01:14] <Lycade> damaltor, I'll look though it. Thank you.
[01:14] <Pelo> GIn, what errors ?
[01:14] <damaltor> Lycade: if there is a similar one with same graphic adapter, maybe there is a hint about how to solve display problems
[01:14] <Pelo> !es | christopher
[01:14] <ubotu> christopher: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Lycade, the 6000' nvidia should not have a problerm
[01:15] <GIn> Pelo, can't remeber
[01:15] <Pelo> geju, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[01:15] <Penth> I don't know if this is specific to ubuntu but can someone tell me how to stream the contents of a file to a script?
[01:15] <Pelo> GIn,  well as long as you got what you wanted,  you can always deal with the errors later
[01:16] <Lycade> Jack_Sparrow, something is causing problems with my laptop when I'm booting up linux, whether for an install or liveCD. It locks up when trying to display anything.
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Lycade, Ok.. so you cant get to a desltop where it shows the install icon
[01:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Lycade, sorry for the typos..  hands are sore
[01:17] <Lycade> Jack_Sparrow, correct. I had to use the alternate to install it. That also fails to load.
[01:17] <Alan_M> Youve been here all day jack, we expect typo's every now and then bud :)
[01:17]  * Pelo doesn't want to know why Jack_Sparrow 's hands are sore
[01:17] <Lycade> Jack_Sparrow, This is why damaltor  and myself believe it might be a display issue.
[01:18] <bazhang> heh
[01:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Lycade,  At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails repeat and add noapic acpi=off before the --
[01:18] <Lycade> Jack_Sparrow, I'll try that.
[01:19] <kindofabuzz> is this a know bug?  virtual terminals not working with compiz running?
[01:19] <Flummoxed`> of you
[01:19] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, maybe the ppl in #compiz know
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Lycade, fyi  on option two.. you also remove quiet and splash when you add those oter commands
[01:19] <peleg> does anyone know about a graphical user interface for editing texinfo? (besides emacs); I need something that will know how to add, or at least highlight, @ commands.
[01:19] <kindofabuzz> gedit
[01:20] <Pelo> peleg, have you tried with gedit ?
[01:20] <kindofabuzz> kedit
[01:20] <kindofabuzz> hundreds probably
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !editors
[01:20] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code
[01:20] <kindofabuzz> nano ftw!
[01:20] <Karsyth> can anyone tell me what the most efficient way to install wine is?
[01:20] <kindofabuzz> there is a deb for wine
[01:20] <oloughlin75> sudo apt-get install wine
[01:20] <Karsyth> what i mean by that is without compiling and whatnot
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Karsyth, sudo apt-get install wine
[01:20] <kindofabuzz> winehq.com
[01:20] <Karsyth> ok, thanks
[01:20] <Pelo> Karsyth, goto www.winehq.org and get the repos
[01:20] <hybrid-k1rnel> Karsyth, wine-doors
[01:20] <ut0mata> karsyth: sudo apt-get install wine
[01:21] <Pelo> Karsyth, I stand corrected , .com
[01:21] <Chris|> does anyone know how to set the brightness on ubuntu?
[01:21] <kindofabuzz> yeah don't at-get it until you add those repos to get the newest version
[01:21] <Lycade> Jack_Sparrow, I'm looking at the install that GRUB is using. Do you want me to go ahead and edit that one? It tells me to hit "e" to edit. Should I hit "C" there to go to command line? If so, what do I type in command line?  I think I see, you got it to install with the alt.. but will not come up.. right.. yes E to edit  etc
[01:22] <Carenthalas> Chris|: I think it is released to the Power Management.
[01:22] <Pelo> peleg, I think you can change the type of highlight from the preference meneues for various type or scrypting
[01:22] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, so do utorrent and progecad
[01:22]  * Chris| checks
[01:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Lycade, going that way you do not get to start or install...  not a prob
[01:23] <peleg> Pelo: I have done it; only after that it started to highlight @s...
[01:23] <Lycade> Jack_Sparrow, On the edit area, it has the following: root (hd1,1) Kernal /boot/vmlinuz some other stuff, initrd /boot/initrd and some other stuff, and quiet. Should I hit "d" to remove quiet? :x
[01:23]  * Pelo is so bored he's looking at random pick on icanhascheezburger.com
[01:23] <Scunizi> Chris|, that's typical of a laptop.. usually "fn" and the corresponding fn key (blue) will increase it.. if that feature is working in
[01:23] <scarr> Hihi
[01:23] <Carenthalas> Chris|: You can change the screen brightness level for both conditions using AC or battery.
[01:23] <Chris|> thanks Carenthalas i got it
[01:23] <Chris|> i looked at it earlier
[01:23] <Karsyth> ok, so what exactly is cedega?
[01:23] <Chris|> but over looked it
[01:24] <Chris|> that helps a lot
[01:24] <Karsyth> the main purpose of wine for me is steam
[01:24] <Chris|> thanks :)
[01:24] <Pelo> Karsyth, a commercial version of wine
[01:24] <Scunizi> Karsyth, wine commercially changed.. on steroids
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Lycade, yes the line that has quiet and splash is the line to edit..  go ahead and add noapic acpi=off rith there before the "--"
[01:24] <Karsyth> do you guys recommend it for using steam?
[01:24] <scarr> Has anyone come across any weirdness with nm-applet and wireless connections?  Mine was working great, but now it won't stop spinning even though I'm connected fine.
[01:24] <Gopher99> is there a way to use wine to use the Steam already installed on another drive?  for instance my mounted windows drive?
[01:24] <Lycade> Jack_Sparrow, I'm looking at the line that has quiet. It says grub edit> quiet
[01:25] <Pelo> Gopher99, no
[01:25] <Lycade> Jack_Sparrow, do I just remove quiet?
[01:25] <bazhang> Karsyth: best to check the appdb to see how well steam works in wine
[01:25] <Carenthalas> How many users will use laptop with linux comparing with desktop with linux here?
[01:25] <kindofabuzz> because you probly got it watching the wrong eth connection..like if you have wireless and a eth port you will have eth0 and eth1
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Lycade, One sec..
[01:25] <Y-Town> In Gnome-rdp I get the following error:  Error during the connection to database.   I have reloaded the software and still get the error... ANy ideas?
[01:25] <Pelo> Gopher99, wine creates it's own filetree with libs and dlls in it to run apps on , it has it's own regedit with appropriate keys
[01:25] <scarr> Carenthalas: I've got both, but I wouldn't have any hesitations in using Ubuntu for my laptop exclusively.
[01:25] <bazhang> Carenthalas: probably a mix of the two; do you have a support question?
[01:26] <Pelo> Y-Town, what is gnome-rpd ?
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Lycade, Here is the line I use to boot this system  kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=6c6e7857-4174-48b3-8711-463352173b5f ro quiet splash noapic apm=on
[01:26] <Carenthalas> Someone suggests me to use Xbuntu instead of Ubuntu for my old Sony vaio laptop (P3-750/384MB RAM)....any idea?
[01:26] <gitpik> hi!
[01:26] <Y-Town> Pelo: Gnome-rdp    sorry
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Carenthalas, not a bad choice for that machine
[01:26] <bazhang> Carenthalas: perhaps how much ram what cpu; fluxbuntu might be a better choice if ram is minimal
[01:26] <Dr_willis> Carenthalas,  ive ran ubuntu on much LOWER end machines then that..
[01:27] <scarr> Carenthalas: I've got a Thinkpad e600 that has straight up Ubuntu and it runs ok, but I am also considering Xubuntu for obvious reasons (the e600 is like a 400mhz machine)
[01:27] <Dr_willis> Carenthalas,  it depends on what you want to do with the machine. xubuntu will proberly do all you need for most common tasks.
[01:27] <Pelo> Carenthalas, xubuntu used xcfe as an envirounement, it uses less recources then gnome and should urn faster on older machines,  but you have enough machine t run ubuntu if you which to
[01:27] <bazhang> but xubuntu is hardly lightweight
[01:27] <Y-Town> Pelo: its remote desktop connection
[01:27] <crxyem> I think I may have found a bug, Not sure if it is only a problem when compiz is running or not yet, but if I open Firefox, thunderbird won't open and vise versa. they both seem to run " run-mozilla.sh" any ideas were I should report this
[01:27] <Carenthalas> I have both Thinkpad T42 and Vaio PCG-R505JL, seems only Ubuntu LiveCD can work on the sony. The T42 has primary XP and 2nd HDD with Mandriva 2008
[01:27] <Alan_M> its lightweight as in memory usage bazhang, not in size lol.
[01:28] <Pelo> Y-Town, ic, I can't help with that maybe one fo the other,  or you might want to run the error msg in the forum 's search ,  www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:28] <bazhang> Alan_M: with all the gtk stuff not so much
[01:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Carenthalas, I do agree you have enough pc to run Ubuntu...  but your hardware is near the low end of that group
[01:28] <Y-Town> Pelo: will try that
[01:28] <Alan_M> i use xubuntu on all my stuff, but thats going offtopic so ill stop :)
[01:28] <bazhang> Carenthalas: with enough ram even ubuntu might be ok you can check thinkwiki for the T42
[01:29] <UeB> good evening: I have the following problem: I recently upgraded from feisty to gusty and after that my 2 external usb drives seem to unmount them self after a while.
[01:29] <gitpik> can any body help me with a video codec problem I'm having?
[01:29] <Pelo> crxyem, uninstall thundebird and then reinstall it , see if it gets better
[01:29] <xenthro> gitpik, specifically?
[01:29] <Pelo> gitpik, what's the issue ?
[01:29] <scarr> Anyone have any experience unbreaking nm-applet?  How would I start from scratch with that (like how do I wipe any state files etc..)
[01:29] <bazhang> http://www.thinkwiki.org/ Carenthalas
[01:29] <Alan_M> gitpik, sure if you tell us what the problem entails (is made of and erros your receiving)
[01:29] <pisecx> find /var -name "*log" -a -type f -exec cp {} logs/
[01:29] <pisecx> what's wrong with this?
[01:29] <Carenthalas> Yes, I have checked Thinkwiki before, and I am using Linux under T42 now in IRC. Just a consideration if the old sony would be a bit tough for it to run Ubuntu instad of Xubuntu.
[01:29] <Pelo> scarr, did you just try reinstlling it ?
[01:30] <bazhang> how much ram on the sony caren
[01:30] <scarr> Hmm, haven't yet, via the package manager?
[01:30] <bazhang> oops
[01:30] <Karsyth> can anyone figure this out? im getting this when i try to install steam... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59552/
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Carenthalas, YOu can always install both on the same box
[01:30] <pisecx> it says that -exec has wrong arguments
[01:30] <gitpik> well in vlc certain avi and at one mkv play with a weird color misalignment. Like a green bar across the top.
[01:30] <Carenthalas> 128MB on board + 256MB extra (max. out already).
[01:30] <Dr_willis> Carenthalas,  ive ran ubuntu on a Pent 1 - 100mhz befor. :)
[01:30] <pisecx> no, that -exec does not have arguments at all
[01:30] <Pelo> Karsyth, did you first run  winecfg ?
[01:30] <crxyem> Pelo, why do you think that would work, the install is still going to put a file run-mozilla.sh in /usr/lib/thunderbird, and the same file exists in /usr/lib/firefox
[01:30] <Karsyth> Pelo: nope
[01:30] <bazhang> Carenthalas: that should run ubuntu or xubuntu okay
[01:31] <Lycade> Jack_Sparrow, It has loaded. Thank you! Is there a place in the forums where I can thank both you and damaltor for the assistance you provided to me?
[01:31] <xenthro> gitpik, hit "a" repeatedly until it changes
[01:31] <Carenthalas> Jack_Sparrow: I know, just want the simlified the future maintainence if there is any upgrade or reinstall of XP...
[01:31] <Dr_willis> Carenthalas,  install xubuntu, and install whatever gnome bits you like.. or install the ubuntu-desktop and try them out - see if gnome is slow or not. if so - use xfce,
[01:31] <xenthro> gitpik, there is also a vlc channel
[01:31] <Pelo> crxyem, let it , see what happnes
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Lycade, thank you but not needed.. we should now edit grub to make that permenant
[01:31] <UeB> it is easy to get them back i just have to press the button on the right hand side next to the home folder butten in nautilus. But this does not help the programs that depend on the data from this drives when I am away
[01:31] <damaltor> Lycade: i didnt listen, what was the problem? what did you change? congratulations"
[01:31] <frank23> xenthro: what does 'a' do in vlc?
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Lycade, gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:32] <crxyem> alrighty if that doesn't work were would you post the bug report
[01:32] <Pelo> Karsyth, run that first and then , go ask in #winehq about installing steam , they will be able to help
[01:32] <inertial> how can i suspend from the command line
[01:32] <inertial> ?
[01:32] <Lycade> damaltor, Jack_sparrow had me edit the config to load it properly by removing splash and stuff. Now he is still helping me.
[01:32] <Carenthalas> The Ubuntu LiveCD on the old Sony is a bit slow due to slow CDROM docking....don't how fast will it run with the new 120GB HD that I just bought for it.
[01:32] <Lycade> Jack_Sparrow, ok, I'll do that.
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> damaltor, I wanted to thank you for helping as well..
[01:32] <Pelo> crxyem, first I recommend you ask in #firefox and in #thunderbird if anyone has a fix for it
[01:32] <gitpik> xenthro, doesn't work.
[01:32] <crxyem> good idea
[01:32] <crxyem> thx
[01:32] <Carenthalas> The simplicity setup that I preferred would be similar to my T42.
[01:32] <xenthro> gitpik, yea sorry, i confused the command with something else
[01:33] <damaltor> Lycade: great thing. note down what he says, you will be happy to have it on next installation ;)
[01:33] <gitpik> but whats the address for the vlc channel
[01:33] <damaltor> Jack_Sparrow, Lycade: no problem... this channel is great, i had a lot of helpers here when i was new to ubuntu
[01:33] <Starnestommy> gitpik: #videolan
[01:33] <Pelo> Carenthalas, is anyone actualy helping you ? please use their names in each line and don'T use the enter key for punctuation
[01:33] <Lycade> Jack_Sparrow, I see a blank screen.
[01:33] <Carenthalas> Primary HDD with XP and MBR untouch, 2nd HDD loaded with linux + GRUB (for choosing linux or XP). In case, I have future upgrade , or reformat, re-install OS. It will be much simple.
[01:33] <gitpik> I figured it had something to do with ubuntu cause the files work correctly in xp on vlc
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> damaltor, We try
[01:33] <xenthro> gitpik, irc.videolan.org/videolan
[01:34] <gitpik> Starnestommy, tyvm :)
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Lycade, gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst      that is LST  if that helps
[01:34] <Lycade> Jack_Sparrow, figures. I'll correct it.
[01:34] <Carenthalas> Pelo: Oh, sorry, how should I do it?
[01:34] <Lycade> Jack_Sparrow, it has loaded.
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Lycade, YOu can add shift to ctrl-c or v to paste into a terminal
[01:35] <gitpik> and Xenthro too :)
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Lycade, NOw you will make the same edit on that page that you did manually earlier
[01:35] <mosibfu> anyone knows if there is a hardy specific channel?
[01:35] <Pelo> Carenthalas, right now you are just makeing statements and no one knows what you are talkinga bout,  if you have aproblem state it and wait for someone to answer back , if they don't be patient and ask again periocicaly,  ask in one line  don'T stretch it out, this is a busy channel and it makes it difficult to follow
[01:35] <Starnestommy> mosibfu: #ubuntu+1
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Ubuntu+1
[01:35] <damaltor> Jack_Sparrow: .... i searched for a way to paste ito a terminal for AGES. always used middle mouse key... THX.
[01:35] <Lycade> Jack_Sparrow, To the same area as before? I located it already.
[01:36] <mosibfu> tyvm Starnestommy and Jack_Sparrow
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Lycade, Yep
[01:36] <inertial> :q
[01:36] <Carenthalas> Pelo: Thanks, :-P
[01:36] <Lycade> Jack_Sparrow, I will assume that now I would need to save?
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Lycade, YEs
[01:37] <sFEARs> How do i save a downloaded ndiswrapper package so that i can reinstall it while i'm not connected to the internet
[01:37] <Lycade> Jack_Sparrow, Thank you. ^^; All I had to do was add noapic apm=on to the end of the current kernel line. :D Now I can get down to playing with Ubuntu. Thank you again for all of your help.
[01:37] <Pelo> sFEARs, it's on the live cd ,
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Lycade, I have another favor to ask..   Paste this command into a terminal .. it will give you back a link.. so that I may verify your work..   sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | pastebinit
[01:37] <sFEARs> say it's a package not on the live cd
[01:38] <adamhadani> hellos
[01:38] <adamhadani> =]
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> sFEARs, see if it is in /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:38] <sFEARs> will look
[01:38] <Lycade> Jack_Sparrow, "Couldn't find package pastebinit"
[01:38] <ConstyXIV> how do you disable the extension version check in firefox?
[01:39]  * Pelo knows that ndiswrapper is on the dvd , can't be totaly sure about the cd but has a suspicon
[01:39] <FFEMTcJ> does anyone have any experience with using a Cingular/AT&T Wireless internet card on ubuntu?
[01:39] <Mookie> I try to play DVD using Totem. I already have GStreamer and followed the instructions to install libdvdcss2. But it will won't play a disc. Can anyone help me debug what is missing?
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Lycade, not a problem...  One of the first things you will want to do is enable the extra repos..   system...admin...software sources.. enable everything.. disable the cdrom as a source
[01:39] <sFEARs> ok.. there's a bunch of files in there.. so if i save that dir with all the deb files in it.. do i have to double click on every one of those files... or is there more of an automatic way to do it?
[01:40] <Pelo> Mookie, totem won'T play dvds,  you need ogm or something, xine will play dvds nicely enough
[01:40] <sFEARs> isn't there a way to export packages & dependecies?
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> sFEARs, just look for the ndis/... that you wanted..
[01:40] <manatatas> how do i get 3gp files to have sound?
[01:40] <Lycade> Jack_Sparrow, is there a link I could read up on tutorials for how do do all of that?
[01:40] <Mookie> Pelo: Okay.
[01:40] <Pelo> later folks
[01:40] <lydgate> is there an easy way to get a newer git than what's in the repos in ubuntu? doesn't seem to be in backports
[01:40] <lydgate> or should i just compile it?
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !training
[01:40] <ubotu> A desktop course manual for Ubuntu 7.10 can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training
[01:40] <sFEARs> if i just copy that onto a new install it won't work becuase the dependencies arn't resolved?
[01:40] <Lycade> Jack_Sparrow, Thank you once more.
[01:40] <Jordan_U> !clone | sFEARs like this ?
[01:40] <ubotu> sFEARs like this ?: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Lycade, there is also a wiki link let me look
[01:41] <sFEARs> yup.. that's the one.. thanks Jordan_U
[01:41] <robby_> hay
[01:41] <Jordan_U> lydgate, How about from git ;)
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo.. do you have the wiki guide link handy
[01:41] <robby_> can i ask a question
[01:41] <Starnestommy> robby_: go ahead
[01:41] <manatatas> how do i get 3gp files to have sound?
[01:41] <bazhang> robby_: sure
[01:41] <Jordan_U> !ask | robby_
[01:41] <ubotu> robby_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[01:41] <lydgate> Jordan_U: yeah, is that the best way?
[01:41] <robby_> im using wine
[01:41] <robby_> to play a game
[01:41] <robby_> the game conects to the internet to update
[01:42] <bazhang> is there a question in there robby_?
[01:42] <robby_> then my folder browser asks where to install the update
[01:42] <robby_> sence wine is a hiden folder
[01:42] <robby_> i cant go to the folder
[01:42] <kes0> =)
[01:42] <robby_> how do i change ine
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Lycade, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy   is probbly better for you
[01:42] <robby_> and the folder
[01:42] <Jordan_U> lydgate, That's the way most people do it ( AFIK ) , there may be a repository for it though
[01:42] <manatatas> how do i get 3gp files to have sound
[01:42] <manatatas> ?
[01:42] <robby_> to not be hiden
[01:42] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[01:42] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[01:42] <bazhang> sweet
[01:42] <robby_> sence makeing it wine insted of .wine messes it up
[01:43] <Lycade> Jack_Sparrow, thank you once more.
[01:43] <Jordan_U> Awesome, one bot triggering another :)
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Lycade, one more thing
[01:43] <Xcerca> hey guys,  i have the regular nvidia driver installed, but in nvidia-settings  i can't see all of the posible resolutions for my monitor...  it worked fine in Dreamlinux,  and way to add resolutions to nvidia-settings ?
[01:43] <robby_> so how can i m,ake wine use a difrent folder
[01:43] <robby_> rather then its normal folder
[01:43] <Starnestommy> robby_: I don't think you can
[01:43] <Xcerca> any way to add resolutions to nvidia-settings ?
[01:44] <jimmygoon> oh god, my #ubuntu log is 25mb
[01:44] <bazhang> robby_: could you go easy on the enter key there?
[01:44] <Jordan_U> robby_, You can, ask in #wine-hq
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Lycade, write this down..   sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst        if your edit was wrong, go to recovery mode and use that to correct the problem
[01:44] <robby_> LOL 25mb isnt shit XD
[01:44] <Starnestommy> robby_: you could try making the wine folder point to .wine
[01:44] <robby_> wait till it hts a gig
[01:44] <Lycade> Jack_Sparrow, Thank you.
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> np.. have fun...
[01:44] <bazhang> robby_: the experts in #winehq can help you ;]
[01:44] <Jordan_U> robby_, #winehq that is :)
[01:45] <SpookyET> http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2007/05/sorry-state-of-sound-in-linux.html
[01:45] <robby_> well see the problemm was not geting to the folder
[01:45] <robby_> its that
[01:45] <robby_> sence its hiden
[01:45] <xb3rt> Does anyone use wifi-radar
[01:45] <xb3rt> i cant get it setup right
[01:45] <bazhang> !enter | robby_
[01:45] <robby_> i cant naigate using the folder finder
[01:45] <ubotu> robby_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:45] <Frederick> folks how long should java rake to build from source in a athlon64 3 gb processor 4 gb ram in average?
[01:45] <jimmygoon> Pelo, did you ask what my issue was? I think I was gone and #ubuntu said someone mentioned me but its past my scrollback... I don't think I needed help with anything :/
[01:45] <Jordan_U> !anyone | xb3rt
[01:45] <ubotu> xb3rt: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:45] <netdu1> I want to buy (say) high end computer, how do I make sure I will work well with ubuntu? (wiki page)
[01:45] <netdu1> or something like that
[01:46] <Lycade> Jack_Sparrow, Do you mind if I ask what the NANO represents? I assume that it is reinstalling it back to the default config for the file.
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[01:46] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[01:46] <xb3rt> How do i configure wifi-radar to pick up and connect to wireless routers nearby
[01:46] <robby_> u dont nead a high end computer for ubuntu less u using compiz
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Lycade, nano is a text editor sudo gives it root user access
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !editors
[01:46] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code
[01:47] <s10482> DCC SEND<PHONE_NUMBER>759327590759793257375254075
[01:47] <robby_> lol
[01:47] <bastid_raZor> what is the CLI to enter avant preferences menu?
[01:47] <Lycade> Jack_Sparrow, Thanks again for all of the help.
[01:47] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/wifi-radar-simple-tool-to-manage-wireless-profiles.html xb3rt
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Lycade, You would not have access to gksudo gedit   gui editor in recovery mode
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:48] <robby_> i like how ubuntu can auto install stuff  anfter auto downloading with just one line of comands
[01:48] <robby_> XD
[01:48] <robby_> wait u said there was a #winehq
[01:48] <smatt> (12:32:02 PM) smatt: i'm using a turtlebeach usb audio and just installed ubuntu 7.1 last night. I launch firefox and install the flash player inside firefox, but i get no sound. i checked the sound properties and selected "usb" for everything and clicked test to make sure i heard something. i drop to shell and apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree and then install it again. still no sound.
[01:49] <jerbear> ~/.zprofile does not get sourced with gdm, only ~/.profile... can anyone confirm this?
[01:49] <robby_> #winehq
[01:49] <robby_> lol
[01:49] <LjL>  /join #winehq
[01:49] <robby_> how do i change channels
[01:50] <smatt> i also can't seem to get ubuntu to mount my nfs shares
[01:50] <smatt> (i switched from opensuse 10.3 to ubuntu 7.1)
[01:50] <seamus7> Hey what's the best way to connect with Twitter in Ubuntu? I'm using Pidgin and it's pretty good. Tried gTwitter but it was limited and buggy. Anyone else have recommendations?
[01:50] <lydgate> Jordan_U: ok i just installed a debian backport, since ubuntu backports doesn't seem to have it
[01:50] <lydgate> and i don't want to build-dep it
[01:50] <sFEARs> !automate
[01:51] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[01:51] <lydgate> because this is a laptop without a lot of space
[01:51] <Jannita> Is there any way to deactivate the window effects on Hardy?
[01:51] <CrackerVILLE> http://www.mininova.org/get/1240267
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> lydgate, downloading from the debian repos is risky
[01:51] <nalioth> CrackerVILLE: please dont' do that
[01:51] <scall> I am having such a hard time getting my domain name to forward to the proper folder. I have created the necessary config files in sites-available and sites-enabled and restarted apache but my domain name still points to the www folder instead of www/mydomainname/. Any suggestions?
[01:51] <lydgate> Jack_Sparrow: why?
[01:51] <CrackerVILLE> sry
[01:51] <CrackerVILLE> ctr+v
[01:52] <xb3rt> How come on wifi-radar i can get the configuration right but dhcp can't make an ip
[01:52] <jerbear> ~/.zprofile does not get sourced with gdm, only ~/.profile... can anyone confirm this?
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !debian
[01:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[01:52] <smatt> scall: sounds like apache isn't configured to point to the folder you want it to
[01:52] <smatt> not a domain prob
[01:52] <lydgate> yeah, but i'm not using a repo, i'm using a .deb
[01:52] <Megaqwerty> Does anyone know how to redirect a graphical application to the standard X? I'm trying to redirect a zenity box to the regular display on the computer, as opposed to it being forwarded to my display on the ssh client.
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> lydgate, where did you get the deb?
[01:53] <scall> smatt: Yeah, I think so. Any suggestions?
[01:53] <smatt> scall: have you checked httpd.conf?
[01:53] <lydgate> Jack_Sparrow: debian backports. but git isn't like a system critical thing
[01:53] <CrackerVILLE> http://www.mininova.org/get/1240267
[01:53] <linoss> anyone of a software application that records a phone conversation utilizing the internal modem on a PC?  thanks in advance
[01:53] <scall> No. The tutorials don't mention that.
[01:53] <smatt> scall: screw tutorials. :)
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> lydgate, debian backport is a debian repo.
[01:54] <lydgate> Jack_Sparrow: yeah. but explain to me how a git package could screw anything up
[01:54] <scall> smatt: Well, the beginners like me need a little direction.
[01:54] <xDx> .
[01:54] <scall> smatt: http.conf is blank.
[01:54] <smatt> scall: httpd.conf should be located in /etc, or somewhere around there..
[01:54] <boykillsworld> anyone know anything about power management settings trying to set up ubuntu to hibernate and wake up according schedule
[01:54] <scall> smatt: /etc/apache2
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> lydgate, Just thought you should know..  I dont intend to debate every package and the differences.. but if it is not in our repos there is likely a reason for it
[01:55] <smatt> scall: yup... that might be the prob then
[01:55] <VonGuard> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfM3RfoudLs
[01:55] <xDx> DCC SEND<PHONE_NUMBER>4
[01:55] <scall> smatt: What should be there?
[01:55] <xDx> lol
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> VonGuard, please dont do that
[01:55] <xDx> so bad
[01:55] <genii> scall: Since version 2 httpd.conf is deprecated. Use instead /etc/apache2/apache2.conf or /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[01:55] <bazhang> VonGuard: a question with that?
[01:55] <xDx> can i ask
[01:55] <xDx> why does DCC send
[01:56] <VonGuard> it's ubuntu related
[01:56] <lydgate> Jack_Sparrow: hehe, because git development is fast, and debian/ubuntu package updating is slow...
[01:57] <ltcabral> hey can someone help me with a theme in fluxbox? seems that i need something related to gtk to load the theme inside the windows too
[01:57] <Pelo> are they just giving out ops with breakfeast cereals now ?
[01:57] <lydgate> and maybe not so many ubuntu users need git
[01:57] <lydgate> i dunno
[01:57] <bazhang> Pelo: haha
[01:57] <fdsjkalf> web pages take 3 to 4 seconds to load, then suddenly load at normal speed. is there anything i can do to fix this?
[01:57] <madd0g> DCC SEND<PHONE_NUMBER>759327590759793257375254075
[01:57] <madd0g> DCC SEND<PHONE_NUMBER>759327590759793257375254075
[01:57] <madd0g> DCC SEND<PHONE_NUMBER>759327590759793257375254075
[01:57] <madd0g> DCC SEND<PHONE_NUMBER>759327590759793257375254075
[01:57] <madd0g> DCC SEND<PHONE_NUMBER>759327590759793257375254075
[01:57] <Pelo> ltcabral, you might do better to ask in #fluxbox
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> lydgate, Feel free to do what you want.. just needed to point out that it is ill advised..
[01:57] <madd0g> DCC SEND<PHONE_NUMBER>759327590759793257375254075
[01:58] <wimpies> when I press the 'right' arrow key in xine my movie does not skip 7 seconds as it should but but returns to the kind of like the last keyframe.
[01:58] <LjL> Jack_Sparrow: useless, he's k-lined
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[01:58] <sz90> wimpies: does that hapen for all files?
[01:58] <wimpies> yes
[01:58] <ltcabral> Pelo: they said its not their problem that im having trouble with gtk... the fluxbox part of my theme is working :P
[01:58] <flyback> maddog unless you want to really see what a denial of service attack looks like you won't do that agian
[01:58] <wimpies> left works , also ctrl-right works
[01:58] <bazhang> fdsjkalf: maybe an internet issue; have you considered that?
[01:58] <wimpies> but only right not
[01:58] <smatt> (12:32:02 PM) smatt: i'm using a turtlebeach usb audio and just installed ubuntu 7.1 last night. I launch firefox and install the flash player inside firefox, but i get no sound. i checked the sound properties and selected "usb" for everything and clicked test to make sure i heard something. i drop to shell and apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree and then install it again. still no sound.
[01:58] <Pelo> ltcabral, do you know what file you need ?
[01:59] <sz90> did you try resetting the mapping within xine?
[01:59] <fdsjkalf> my internet isnt working right, may it be an internet issue. yes i have considered that
[01:59] <ltcabral> Pelo: i dled gtk-chtheme but didnt fix it
[01:59] <bazhang> fdsjkalf: adsl? when did the issue start?
[01:59] <ltcabral> Pelo: this is how it looks like... http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9866/screenshotpb4.jpg
[01:59] <smatt> 1200 people and nobody has helped for the past 12 hours lol
[01:59] <lydgate> Jack_Sparrow: all right thanks. i'd rather have a potentially unstable system with git <IP_ADDRESS>, than a definitely outdated and annoying system with git <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:59] <Pelo> ltcabral, hld on , I think you need one of the gtk engines
[01:59] <fdsjkalf> cable, 10 down 1 up. started this morning
[02:00] <fdsjkalf> latency 14ms
[02:00] <smatt> i'm lovin ubuntu support ;)
[02:00] <bazhang> ouch
[02:00] <Gnea> smatt: have you already run through standard sound checking procedures?
[02:00] <bazhang> smatt what does flash plugin have to do with sound?
[02:00] <fdsjkalf> how would i go about changing dns settings in ubuntu
[02:00] <smatt> Gnea: yeah i just explained everything a sec ago
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> lydgate, Please discontinue the discussion and opinions or take it to offtopic
[02:00] <Gnea> smatt: those weren't standard.
[02:00] <sz90> wimpies?
[02:00] <Gnea> !sound
[02:00] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:01] <Gnea> smatt: please check the URLs that ubotu just spit out
[02:01] <smatt> bazhang: well, because it's flash that' should be playing the sound in firefox right?
[02:01] <wimpies> sz90 ; yes ?
[02:01] <niko_> i was wondering whether virtual box or wining games would be faster
[02:01] <Pelo> ltcabral, sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-xfce
[02:01] <Gnea> smatt: if the system itself can't play sounds, then none of the apps will.
[02:01] <techqbert> anybody have a data evolution dectop here?
[02:02] <bazhang> smatt: sounds like a different issue; when did sound stop working? what did you do or add to your system
[02:02] <Gnea> smatt: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp    if it sounds like static, then perhaps the site is a flash without sound
[02:02] <kes0> !sound
[02:02] <smatt> Gnea: the system plays the test tones fine
[02:02] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:02] <kes0> !install
[02:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[02:02] <kes0> !glib
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glib - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <smatt> (12:32:02 PM) smatt: i'm using a turtlebeach usb audio and just installed ubuntu 7.1 last night. I launch firefox and install the flash player inside firefox, but i get no sound. i checked the sound properties and selected "usb" for everything and clicked test to make sure i heard something. i drop to shell and apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree and then install it again. still no sound.
[02:02] <genii> botabuse!
[02:02] <bazhang> kes0: you can /msg ubotu for fun if you wish thanks
[02:02] <ltcabral> Pelo: ok im dling... thx very much
[02:02] <Gnea> smatt: well, you want help, so i'm giving it now. if you're unwilling to follow through on it, then no one will want to help you.
[02:03] <Pelo> ltcabral, no promises
[02:03] <kes0> bazhang: sry
[02:03] <f4rr4r> I love ubuntu.
[02:03] <fdsjkalf> omg this is really making me upset
[02:03] <niko_> anyone here use a virtual machine or wine for games and which is better
[02:03] <sz90> wimpies, did you try resetting the mappings from withing xine?
[02:03] <smatt> Gnea: I was answering bazhang's question
[02:03] <fdsjkalf> how do i reset my DNS??
[02:03] <Pelo> ltcabral, actualy I'M an idiot,  this has noting to do with fluxbox,  try jsut gtk2-engines  that might work
[02:04] <Gnea> smatt: oh, didn't see a direction or a direct answer to the direct question.
[02:04] <smatt> Gnea: but to answer your question, i'm using sites like youtube for testing
[02:04] <Gnea> niko_: it depends on the game. wine/cedega work pretty well.
[02:04] <smatt> Gnea: the system test sounds work properly
[02:04] <bazhang> smatt indeed try to follow what Gnea is asking instead of just posting your original long question
[02:04] <fdsjkalf> whats with all the ban removal?
[02:05] <niko_> i shall use that then. thank you
[02:05] <Gnea> smatt: but that wasn't my question. you assumed incorrectly. i can see why you haven't solved the problem yet. are you familiar with the lsof command?
[02:05] <bazhang> fdsjkalf: from the netsplit
[02:05] <wimpies> sz90 : i do not think it is a mapping problem.  I ran xine in verbose mode and notice propper 'skip' efforts (i.e. the keypress does what it is supposed to but the frames do not move)
[02:05] <cryonix> hey guys i have the java_ee_sdk-5_04-linux.bin how do i install it?
[02:05] <smatt> Gnea: not really, but i'm reading now
[02:05] <fdsjkalf> how does a split cause people to get banned
[02:05] <bazhang> fdsjkalf: unregged people
[02:05] <musashi> i have 3 HDs and each has a swap space. i want to make the primary swap file on a disk other than the one i'm using. is editing the /etc/fstab and adding pri=5 or something the best way or is something else better? what should the priorities be for the 3 drives?
[02:06] <fdsjkalf> my internet is freaking killing me
[02:06] <Gnea> smatt: sounds good, it's pretty cool
[02:06] <fdsjkalf> ill br back
[02:06] <scall> genii: I can't find anything in apache2.conf that needs to be changed. Can you point me in the right direction?
[02:06] <smatt> Gnea: list processes of the app right?
[02:06] <smatt> Gnea: want me to check processes of firefox?
[02:06] <Gnea> smatt: negative.
[02:06] <sz90> wimpies, are all the proper decoders installed?
 genii: I can't find anything in apache2.conf that needs to be changed. Can you point me in the right direction?
[02:07] <Gnea> smatt: type this in a terminal:  man lsof
[02:07] <genii> scall: Please say again what it is you wish to configure/do, I missed it previously
[02:07] <smatt> reading the man now
[02:07] <Gnea> ...
[02:07] <wimpies> sz90 : yes I think so, the movie does all else perfectly (speed up slow down skip more than 7 seconds, go back etc)
[02:07]  * genii slides cryonix a coffee
[02:08] <smatt> Gnea: list files open... but i'm not sure where you're going with ti
[02:08] <scall> genii: I want to set up virtual hosts. My domain name resolves to the IP Address of my server but in the browser I just get /var/www instead of /var/www/mydomainname.
[02:09] <scall> genii: I have created the necessary config files in sites-available and sites-enabled but it is not working still.
[02:09] <sz90> what type of movie file is it?
[02:09] <genii> scall: Did you reload/restart apache2 ?
[02:09] <scall> Yes.
[02:09] <Gnea> smatt: it really helps to have a basic knowledge of how the system works. lsof lists open files, not files open (there's a difference.) and how they're linked to each other beyond just a normal process list, in greater detail, with things that you never knew existed.  anyway, if you type this command:  lsof | grep libasound
[02:10] <scall> genii: Yes and there were no errors.
[02:10] <Gnea> smatt: it will show you all of the processes that are running that have some sort of access to the soundcard currently.  btw, is that a half-duplex or full-duplex soundcard?
[02:10] <genii> scall: I don't understand what you mean by seeing /var/www in the browser. If you point a web browser to the ip/name you should see all BELOW that directory
[02:10] <smatt> Gnea: only an output i believe, it's a usb soundcard
[02:11] <smatt> there are no inputs
[02:11] <cryonix> most of the time my ubuntu freezes. could that be due to the o/s itself? or is it my computer?
[02:11] <Gnea> smatt: half-duplex means that only 1 application can use the soundcard at a time, full-duplex means that multiple applications can pump sound out of your speakers simultaneously. it has nothing to do with the jacks on the card.
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> cryonix, could be the configureation or your hardware or combination..
[02:12] <goose> if someone gave me some perl code for an IRC bot, how do I compile it?
[02:12] <scall> genii: Yes but I am trying to set it up so that domainone.com goes to one folder and domaintwo.com goes to another. They all go to /var/www instead of them each going to /var/www/domainone and /var/www/domaintwo
[02:12] <Gnea> goose: it should say in the README or INSTALL file
[02:12] <sz90> wimpies, have you tired using a different program?
[02:12] <smatt> Gnea: oh, in that case it's full. opensuse let me play multiple things at once
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> cryonix, how fresh is the install.. has it been upgraded, is it a laptop or desktop, what video card and how was the driver installed
[02:12] <genii> scall: If you have an alias/virtual host entry in 000-default for example, there will not be a directory which is named /var/www/virtualname unless the alias/virtualhost dir is ALSO in /var/www
[02:12] <goose> Gnea, all I have is the bare code. I just need to know how to turn the code into the bot.
[02:12] <Pelo> goose, you don'T compile it , you  put it in the ~/.xchat floder and open in from xchat
[02:13] <goose> pelo, thanks
[02:13] <goose> again
[02:13] <smatt> Gnea: i have the output of the lsof command, shall i pastebin for you?
[02:13] <goose> pelo, is there a specific file format I need to save it as in gedit?
[02:13] <cryonix> Jack_Sparrow: freshly installed
[02:13] <cryonix> okay i have another problem
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> and?
[02:13] <Gnea> smatt: there's another issue with that, though - if opensuse is using a software mixer of some kind to emulate that on a half-duplex card, you might be fooled into thinking that it's full-duplex. do you have some sort of mp3 player on your desktop?
[02:13] <Pelo> goose,  don't think so , it's been a while, let em have a look
[02:13] <scall> genii: I am trying so hard to understand that sentence but it went over my head.
[02:13] <cryonix> when i create a user in the 'user & accounts manager' and when i try to connect to my computer via Putty. it says Authorization Failure
[02:14] <cryonix> but im sure i've spelt the user/pass correctly
[02:14] <leo_rockw> hello everyone
[02:14] <smatt> Gnea: it's a fresh install, i should! just a sec.
[02:14] <bazhang> cryonix: could you give fuller info please?
[02:14] <Gnea> smatt: ok
[02:14] <Pelo> goose,  .pl I beleive,   and it's the  ~/.xchat2 folder
[02:14] <steph_> Can someone tell me how to get the same kind of menu in 7.10 like the one in 8.04?
[02:14] <jgonick> newbie question,  What do you do if a program locks down (freezes) while on the gnome desktop?
[02:14] <wimpies> sz90 : it is a xine specific problem.  of course not all programs have the same features but skipping generally works (vlc, kmplayer )
[02:14] <leo_rockw> i'm using ssh and i wonder if there's any way to view images (png, jpeg) i tried zgv and fbi but neither works.
[02:15] <redheat> hi everyone
[02:15] <leo_rockw> hey redheat
[02:15] <Pelo> steph_, what kind of menu aer you talking about ?
[02:15] <ShakQ> hey redheat
[02:15] <redheat> sorry for bothering you all but I need some urgent help round here
[02:15] <redheat> of course, I hope you all in best of health
[02:15] <cryonix> bazhang: i went to system -> administration -> User & Groups. and I've added an account. but when i try to connect to that account via Putty (My Windows Box) it says Authorization Failure
[02:15] <Gnea> jgonick: click on the 'x' a few times until a window pops up asking if you want to 'force quit' the app or not
[02:15] <kiado> hey
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> steph_, Since we are running 7.10 most of us do not know what that menu looks like.  Perhaps you should ask in #Ubuntu+1 about how to add hardy menu to 7.10
[02:15] <redheat> I have a Creative X-Fi Platinum Sound Card, and I was wondering if there's a 32 Linux Driver for it
[02:15] <redheat> ?
[02:15] <[TX]Strongbow> cryonix: did you give the account a password?
[02:16] <sz90> wimpies: do you have another program that uses xine's engine (like totem) to check if its the xine program or the engine?
[02:16] <Pelo> redheat, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:16] <jgonick> Gnea:  Thanks..
[02:16] <cryonix> [TX]Strongbow: i'm sure i did
[02:16] <genii> scall: What did you put for DocumentRoot    when you made alterations to the 000-default or apache2.conf file?
[02:16] <goose> Pelo, where is the xchat folder?
[02:16] <Pelo> goose  /home/username/.xchat2
[02:16] <Gnea> leo_rockw: it won't do it remotely, zgv and fbi are reserved for the *actual* console of the system itself. there is no app that will do it remotely... you can use scp to copy the images to your system and use zgv locally
[02:16] <Pelo> goose, that,s assuming you are using xchat for an irc client
[02:17] <steph_> Pelo: in 8.04, there is only the application menu (I think it is name that way) while there is Application/Shortcuts/System in 7.1.
[02:17] <Gnea> leo_rockw: if it's a website or ftp site, you could use feh to do remote viewing locally
[02:17] <foxray> ubuntu was cool but i think i might go back to fedora, these nvidia drivers lock up my computer at random intervals
[02:17] <Pelo> steph_, right click the pannel ,  select add to pannel  , from the list select main menu I beleive ,
[02:17] <goose> pelo, I use xchat, but it's not there. I used apt-get to install it
[02:17] <bazhang> cryonix: ah sorry I meant answering Jack_Sparrow's original question in full--what card how driver was installed etc
[02:17] <leo_rockw> Gnea: i thought feh needed X
[02:18] <Gnea> leo_rockw: it does. didn't know if you had X or not.
[02:18] <leo_rockw> Gnea: i'm using dslinux, no X and no extra apps (ie, zgv).
[02:18] <steph_> Pelo: you're right. thanks
[02:18] <Pelo> goose, you do know that   a . before the name means it is hidden right ?  hit crtl_h do dislply hidden files
[02:18] <Strongbow[TX]> cronix: and a valid shell?
[02:18] <leo_rockw> Gnea: i connect with ssh to my laptop. no biggie, just wanted to know if there was a way. thank you.
[02:18] <goose> pelo, I feel like an idiot right now
[02:19] <redheat> Pelo, unfortunately, they don't have one for the X-Fi card, those geniuses over at Creative won't release the source code for their new cards
[02:19] <Pelo> goose, you should
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[02:19] <redheat> anyhow..thank you so much for your help guys..
[02:19] <cryonix> strong what do mean by a valid shell?
[02:19] <bazhang> haha
[02:19] <redheat> Hey Jack Sparrow, how are you my friend, hope you're doing well
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> redheat, Much better thanks
[02:19] <Pelo> redheat, you might also look up your model in the forum see if anyone else had issues and a solution  www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:19] <Gnea> leo_rockw: i have no idea if zgv works on the DS or not - all i know is that, for the console with zgv, the files need to be local, that's it. :)
[02:20] <Strongbow[TX]> The user has to have a shell. It has to be one listed in /etc/shells. If you used the gui tool, then one of the dropdowns / form fields would be for the shell...
[02:20] <scall> genii: I searched for DocumentRoot in apache2.conf and found nothing.
[02:20] <redheat> ok I wll, thank you so much Pelo, truly appreciate your help my friend..
[02:20] <cryonix> i see
[02:20] <redheat> I'll go there now.. thank you all, take care and have a nice day
[02:20] <goose> pelo, don't worry about it. :D I saved it to the xchat dir, do I need to restart xchat? and how do I load the bot?
[02:20] <Strongbow[TX]> it will only list valid shells and probably defaulted to Bash, but it's worth checking
[02:20] <cryonix> it says /bin/bash
[02:20] <adorablepuppy> Is there an alternative to gdesklets?
[02:20] <qcjn> Hi, i've installed a hard disk with a pci serail ata host card. Ubuntu dosn't see it ??
[02:20] <Strongbow[TX]> Open a terminal window and do "finger user" where "user" is the user you added.
[02:21] <Strongbow[TX]> Look for "Shell:"
[02:21] <cryonix> ok let me try
[02:21] <leo_rockw> Gnea: with dslinux you can only use the apps that come by default (which is the basics... it's only like a 3mb image). thanks for your help. i just wanted to know if there was a way to do it, now that i know there isn't i won't keep trying lol
[02:21] <Pelo> goose, no need to restart xchat, look in hte xchat menu , in windows,  script and plugins
[02:21] <oboy03> what is LTS in layman's term?
[02:21] <cryonix> Shell: bin/bash
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> qcjn, that card most likely requires special drivers.. even in windows that we dont have in ubuntu
[02:21] <leo_rockw> oboy03: long term service
[02:21] <Jordan_U> leo_rockw, You can install other apps with DSL
[02:21] <Strongbow[TX]> oboy03: "Long Term Support". Support for 3 years for desktop versions, 5 for server versions.
[02:21] <leo_rockw> Jordan_U: oh really? how so?
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !eol
[02:22] <ubotu> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[02:22] <Strongbow[TX]> cryonix: "bin/bash" or "/bin/bash"?
[02:22] <Jordan_U> leo_rockw, apt-get
[02:22] <qcjn> Jack_Sparrow: so you think it won't work with that card ?
[02:22] <leo_rockw> Jordan_U: i read the wiki, and didn't find anything about that.
[02:22] <cryonix> it says Shell: /bin/bash
[02:22] <genii> scall: Perhaps take a look at the virtual host entry the person here made, it's the 7th greyish panel down the page, and compare it with whatever you put:  http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-apache-virtual-sites.html
[02:22] <leo_rockw> Jordan_U: oh, it's not damn small linux, it's ds linux (for the nintendo DS)
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> qcjn, I have my doubts.. did it come with a driver for windows?
[02:22] <Strongbow[TX]> cryonix: OK, unless you've done somethign weird, the user has a valid shell.
[02:23] <Jordan_U> leo_rockw, Oh :)
[02:23] <cryonix> leo_rockw: nintendo DS linux? NICE
[02:23] <oboy03> what would happen if the support to one ubuntu version expirse?
[02:23] <cryonix> strongbow; i'm trying to login via Putty. it says Access Denied
[02:23] <qcjn> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[02:23] <leo_rockw> cryonix: yup... i can use irssi, finch, links2... all with ssh, pretty cool huh?
[02:23] <cryonix> lleo_rockw thats crazy
[02:23] <genii> scall: Adjust directories accordingly, of course
[02:23] <goose> pelo, does xchat already have the perl extensions? I got 'Unknown file type /home/goose/.xchat2/RokerBot. Maybe you need to install the Perl or Python plugin? Usage: LOAD [-e] <file>, loads a plugin or script'
[02:24] <xb3rt> Can someone help me setup my wireless on ubuntu 7.10 gutsy
[02:24] <Strongbow[TX]> cryonix: next thing to check is the home directory. Does it exist? Look for "Directory:" in the output above and see if you can do "cd directory" (replacing directory with what it says in the finger output)
[02:24] <Jordan_U> cryonix, Do you have openssh-server installed?
[02:24] <leo_rockw> cryonix: yes, crazy, but awesome.
[02:24] <EDinNY> what deb contains Acrobat Reader?
[02:24] <Gnea> EDinNY: it's part of the medibuntu archive
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> qcjn, It seems unlike;y to me that it will work if it is not autodetected
[02:24] <Gnea> !medibuntu | EDinNY
[02:24] <ubotu> EDinNY: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[02:24] <Strongbow[TX]> loe_rockw: that's a good question actually.
[02:24] <cryonix> Jordan_U: no i dont
[02:24] <EDinNY> Gnea: do you know the name of the deb?
[02:25] <Pelo> goose, it's been a while,  but I don'T think I needed to install any specific extension to run perl scripts in xchat ,not on linux anyway,  let me see what perl packages I have installed and make you a short list
[02:25] <qcjn> Jack_Sparrow: well i had the same problem wiht an ide hrad drive
[02:25] <smatt> Gnea: I'm getting the following errors when I run firefox in the console and watch output:
[02:25] <smatt> ALSA lib conf.c:3982:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such device
[02:25] <smatt> ALSA lib pcm.c:2144:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
[02:25] <smatt> ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1351:(_snd_pcm_hw_open) Invalid value for card
[02:25] <bazhang> xb3rt: cli or gui?
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> qcjn, Is that with an onboard ide controller.. what mb?
[02:25] <xb3rt> Chat check, 1.....2.....3................
[02:25] <sz90> wimpies, any luck with another program with the xine engine?
[02:25] <cryonix> Jordan_U: but i can connect to the box via Putty.. but it just says Access Denied when i try to login
[02:26] <xb3rt> bazhang: gui, wifi-radar preferable
[02:26] <Gnea> EDinNY: well if you add it and then do a search for acroread with apt-cache, it should show up
[02:26] <qcjn> yes onboard...what is mb?
[02:26] <xb3rt> bazhang: although either will work
[02:26] <bazhang> xb3rt: here is a great guide though cli http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> qcjn, mb = motherboard make and model?
[02:26] <Strongbow[TX]> cryonix: have you looked at your logs to see what it says? Have a look at /var/log/messages and /var/log/secure
[02:26] <xb3rt> bazhang: what do you do it with
[02:26] <bazhang> xb3rt: take a look and come back with questions ;]
[02:26] <Pelo> goose, what is this script for anyway ? were you made an op to ?
[02:26] <bazhang> xb3rt: cli
[02:27] <qcjn> Jack_Sparrow: I don't know ?
[02:27] <smatt> Gnea: it just scrolls over and over those 3 things
[02:27] <Gnea> smatt: anything more than 1 line should really be pastebin'd
[02:27] <xb3rt> bazhang: does it scan the area
[02:27] <crshman> hi all, my box spits out "Disabling IRQ #7" every now and then, from the boot i see that IRQ#7 belongs to a sata card in my system....when it disables IRQ#7 the drives connected to it go down
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> qcjn, did the livecd boot to a desktop?
[02:27] <Jordan_U> cryonix, You need openssh-server to connect via ssh, I don't know what putty is reporting as a 'connection' "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[02:27] <crshman> any idea's why the system is doing this?
[02:27] <goose> Pelo, it's for a bot that gives the weather to any city when you ask for it
[02:27] <cryonix> jordan_u let me try
[02:27] <qcjn> what live cd ?
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> qcjn, The ubuntu disk you were using to install the os
[02:28] <Gnea> cryonix: your system sounds screwy - IRQ7 is usually parallel. could be a bad SATA cable though
[02:28] <cryonix> if i still openssh-server. would i be more vulnerable of attacks/
[02:28] <bazhang> qcjn: how did you install ubuntu?
[02:28] <cryonix> Gnea: it is a bit screwy
[02:28] <Strongbow[TX]> cryonix: only slightly. The bigger danger is using weak passwords.
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Gnea, agreed irq 7 is usually lpt1
[02:28] <Gnea> cryonix: do you have any other sata cables to test with? only time i've seen that is when there's a problem with it
[02:29] <Pelo> goose, I'm gonna dcc send you a perl script a freind made for me (I don't code) you can load it to see if it works and you can also check your own script against it  , how is that ?
[02:29] <cryonix> Gnea: i dont run any SATA cables :(
[02:29] <Gnea> Jack_Sparrow: nod
[02:29] <cryonix> okay guys i've installed openssh-server
[02:29] <one_matthias> hi everybody, anyone have bluetooth experiance ...
[02:29] <qcjn> from a cd , and installed it directly. I've installed 6.02 and upgraded up to 7.10
[02:29] <goose> Pelo, I don't code either, someone gave me this script, but I'll take anything I can get
[02:29] <Gnea> cryonix: but you just said you've got a SATA card in the system. are you using IDE drives?
[02:30] <cryonix> Gnea: i'm using IDE drives
[02:30] <Strongbow[TX]> Gnea: I think you have him confused with someone else. cryonix is talking about an ssh issue.
[02:30] <Gnea> cryonix: then why is the SATA chip turned on?
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> qcjn, Ok.. we call those live cd's as you can boot up and test drive them.  Why do you say it had a problem with your ide
[02:30] <cryonix> Jordan_U: ive installed openssh-server
[02:30] <Gnea> er
[02:30] <cryonix> Gnea: where did u see SATA?
[02:30] <cryonix> lol
[02:30] <smatt> to hell with it, i'm going back to opensuse. thanks for (trying to) help Gnea
[02:30] <Pelo> goose, that script is to block ppl from pm ing you with /msg , let me know whjen you loaded it I'll give it a try
[02:30] <hitme666> any1 ever used a jetway MiniQ Twin + his Remote with ubuntu / linux ?
[02:30] <Gnea> crshman: sorry
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> crshman,   Gnea
[02:30] <goose> pelo, I loaded it
[02:30] <Gnea> cryonix: sorry about that :(
[02:30] <Gnea> *headdesk*
[02:31] <cryonix> Gnea: no prob :P
[02:31] <Jordan_U> cryonix, Is putty working now?
[02:31] <goose> Pelo, it worked
[02:31] <Gnea> crshman: uhm, did you catch all of that? :)
[02:31] <cryonix> Jordan_U: putty can connect to my computer via SSH. but when i put the login details ive added. it says Access Denied
[02:31] <Pelo> goose,  so that is working,  there must be a problem with your other script
[02:31] <xb3rt> how do i print a command to a txt file
[02:31] <qcjn> because i installed an ide before..When i installed it, Ubuntu didn't see it
[02:31] <Strongbow[TX]> cryonix: did you check the home directory for the user exists?
[02:31] <goose> how do I deactive it?
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Gnea, disable lpt1 in the bios for testing, leave it that way if he isnt using parallel printer
[02:32] <Strongbow[TX]> xb3rt: "command > filename.txt"
[02:32] <goose> Pelo, how do I deactivate the script so people can PM me again?
[02:32] <cryonix> Strongbow[TX]: i can see the user folder there in /home/
[02:32] <crshman> ok got that
[02:32] <Strongbow[TX]> cryonix: ok, next, did you look at /var/log/messages and /var/log/secure?
[02:32] <Pelo> goose,  use the same menu you used to load the script to unload it
[02:32] <crshman> irq7 is parallel, but i disabled it in bios because i don't use it
[02:32] <xb3rt> Strongbow[TX]: does that just put the .txt into the working directory
[02:32] <cryonix> strongbow let me have a look
[02:32] <Gopher99> xb3rt, yes
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> qcjn, Ok..  but when did it not see it.. did you get to a gui desktop and the installer failed?
[02:33] <Strongbow[TX]> xb3rt: it dumps whatever would have gone to the screen in the given file instead...
[02:33] <Gnea> crshman: how many SATA drives do you have hooked up?
[02:33] <goose> Pelo, XChat > Load Plugin Or Script
[02:33] <Pelo> goose, yes
[02:33] <Gopher99> xb3rt, if you want to put it somewhere, just list that explicit directory, like  (command) > /home/username/blah.txt
[02:33] <crshman> 4 onboard and 3 on the card
[02:33] <goose> Pelo, it doesn't give me an option to unload it
[02:33] <tengulre> which package contain dot command?
[02:33] <Pelo> goose,  no actualy ,  windows > pluggin and script
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> crshman, I hope you verified you have enough power supply to run all of those
[02:34] <crshman> i do, it's a 700W
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> just checking
[02:34] <Gnea> crshman: sounds like one of the SATA cables on the card could be bad. do you have any spares?
[02:34] <Strongbow[TX]> tengulre: what do you mean "dot command"?
[02:34] <one_matthias> anyone with ati mobility radeon  installed in ubuntu ...
[02:34] <crshman> yeah i do, sata cable eh....never had one of those go bad...
[02:34] <crshman> didn't know they could =)
[02:34] <xb3rt> Gopher99: thank you
[02:34] <Gopher99> anytime meng
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl, I need to go eat dinner
[02:34] <cryonix> Jordan_U: i've checked var/logs/messages. what am i suppose to be looking for?
[02:34] <qcjn> Jack_Sparrow: first it was a used hd ide... so i ve tried to put it in ext3 with qparted and then with gparted, but it didn't see it ?
[02:34] <goose> Pelo, thanks. Any idea where I can get some advice on programming a bot?
[02:34] <Strongbow[TX]> one_matthias: I had one in my work laptop. It worked great. Don't work at that job anymore though.
[02:35] <Gnea> crshman: heh, i have. it SUCKED! :) try switching the drives out one by one and see if it occurs again, if you can
[02:35] <cryonix> goose: eggheads.org
[02:35] <Pelo> goose, techincaly those aren'T bots, they're just scripts ,  but you can always try and ask in #xchat
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> qcjn, gparted livecd or gparted from the ubuntu livecd
[02:35] <crshman> well i only have 1 drive running on it right now
[02:35] <Strongbow[TX]> cryonix: that was me actually. Anyway, look for anything about that user. More likely the message you want is going to be in /var/log/secure though.
[02:35] <arrrghhh> is there any way to vnc into a computer that's at the login screen?  i can ssh in, but x11vnc says it can't find a suitable display.
[02:35] <crshman> and i've tested all 3 individually and it still shuts off
[02:35] <Gnea> all 3 drives or all 3 cables?
[02:35] <crshman> drives
[02:36] <crshman> but i'll try the cable
[02:36] <Xcerca> is there any way to keep the same resolution but change the display "size" maybe,  the panels are going way off the edge of my monitor,   is anyone familiar with xrandr ?
[02:36] <Strongbow[TX]> arrrghh: make sure you have DISPLAY environment variable set, and it's valid.
[02:36] <cryonix> Strongbow[TX]: i dont have /var/log/secure but i've got /var/logs/messages
[02:36] <qcjn> Jack_Sparrow: not from a live cd..I've installed it apt-get...?
[02:36] <Gnea> crshman: if it's not the cables, it could be the way that linux is routing the IRQs.... have you tried pci=routeirq at boot?
[02:36] <arrrghhh> Strongbow[TX], can you explain that more in-depth?  i didn't do anything to configure x11vnc, it just worked...
[02:36] <orion2012> what's a glob that matches all hidden files that doesn't include '.' and '..'?
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> qcjn, we have a command line modifier for the livecd called    all_generic_ide  that sometimes helps.. but I need food, so see you later
[02:37] <crshman> have not (writing all these things down though!)
[02:37] <Gnea> orion2012: *
[02:37] <Strongbow[TX]> arrrghhh: is X running on the server you're trying to connect to?
[02:37] <orion2012> Gnea: hidden files
[02:37] <qcjn> Jack_Sparrow: ok, thanks ?
[02:37] <Gnea> orion2012: .[A-Za-z0-9]*  sorry
[02:37] <arrrghhh> Strongbow[TX], normally yes, but since i rebooted it's probably just sitting at the login screen.... so i'm guessing X hasn't started yet?
[02:37] <orion2012> Gnea: Thanks, I was afraid of that
[02:37] <orion2012> Gnea: hoping it'd be something easy to type
[02:38] <Gnea> orion2012: it is :)
[02:38] <Strongbow[TX]> arrrghhh: try "service gdm restart" (or if you don't have "service" installed, "/etc/init.d/gdm restart")
[02:38] <Gnea> orion2012: just remember: ever uppercase, lowercase and number
[02:39] <Gnea> crshman: try the pci=routeirq thing first, could prevent stress :)
[02:39] <Strongbow[TX]> orion2012: is this something you need to do in a script?
[02:39] <genii> arrrghhh: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC the part about gdm and vnc
[02:39] <crshman> just booted like that =)
[02:39] <orion2012> Strongbow[TX]: no, just on cmd line
[02:39] <Gnea> kewl
[02:39] <orion2012> Strongbow[TX]: moving files arround
[02:40] <Frederick> folks how long should java take to build from source in a athlon64 3 gb processor 4 gb ram in average?
[02:40] <Frederick> 1 hour?
[02:40] <jimmygoon> OpenJDK?
[02:40] <arrrghhh> genii, thanks.  and Strongbow[TX] it didn't work.  i use kubuntu, so i did "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart" and it restarted the window manager, gave me the messages that it did but x11vnc still doesn't run.
[02:40] <Frederick> jimmygoon: icedtea-java7-plugin icedtea-java7-bin icedtea-java7-jre icedtea-java7-jdk
[02:41] <ToddEDM> hey guys, im looking at getting a new PC, now im not really a newb to building, but just not uptodate ... last PC i built had a athlon 2200+ and some crappy ATI vid card..coulld someone in here help me, as im going to need to run linux on it, aswell as windows(just for Call of Duty 4)
[02:41] <Frederick> ToddEDM: linuxwill run in pretty much every system
[02:41] <ToddEDM> i think i know that i should stay away from ATI.. is this true?
[02:41] <Strongbow[TX]> ToddEDM: kind of an all-encompassing question. Do you have something specific you need help with?
[02:42] <Frederick> ToddEDM: for linux support grforce is much better imho
[02:42] <Strongbow[TX]> Frederick: Especialy Ubuntu.
[02:42] <Pelo> ToddEDM, if you donT' need any extra fancy graphics , get an asus board with all intel chipset,  saveyourself some pain
[02:43] <Frederick> Pelo: he wants games he needs at leasts a geforce 8600 :p
[02:43] <arrrghhh> genii, that's some good info that i've read thru, but the login screen stuff seems to only apply to ubuntu because they keep talking about gdm and not kdm.  will those instructions work for kde?
[02:43] <rsk> ToddEDM: cod4 has platinum rating in wine btw :)
[02:43] <cryonix> when i type: su and it asks for my password. i placed my password and it says incorrect password?
[02:43] <Pelo> Frederick, which is what I meant abotu extrafancy graphics
[02:43] <rsk> cryonix: ubuntu dosent use a root account
[02:43] <cryonix> but i am the admin of this computer. i own it
[02:43] <ToddEDM> Strongbow[TX]: i just am not sure what what components to choose, kinda lost touch with the new technologies, anything that i should look for in a mobo that might keep this system upto-date
[02:43] <cryonix> ohh
[02:43] <rsk> cryonix: use sudo instead
[02:43] <Strongbow[TX]> cryonix: "su" will ask for the root password. "sudo" asks for your password.
[02:43] <Frederick> im happy with myne 8800 gts
[02:43] <denobjob> lol
[02:43] <ToddEDM> rsk: sweet
[02:44] <cryonix> i see
[02:44] <genii> arrrghhh: The port 5901 yes, thats remote X login. the gdm.conf stuff you may need to look up kdm equivelent
[02:44] <cryonix> because when i try to install java runtime player. it says your not logged in as a root account
[02:44] <Strongbow[TX]> cryonix: sudo might not even ask. I think it doesn't on ubuntu.
[02:44] <cryonix> yeah..
[02:44] <Strongbow[TX]> cryonix: what rsk said.
[02:44] <crshman> *waits for a disabled irq message* haha
[02:44] <Genius314> I want to record video in DOSbox, but I need to press ctrl-alt-f5 to do so, which brings me to some terminal-type thing. Can I disable this shortcut in Ubuntu? It's not in the list in  System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortucts.
[02:44] <cryonix> i see
[02:44] <Gnea> ToddEDM: i've had better luck with nvidia than ati on the 3d end, a dual-core p4 3ghz or better or dual-core athlon64 should suffice
[02:44] <Jordan_U> cryonix, Don't install it that way!
[02:45] <Jordan_U> !java | cryonix
[02:45] <ubotu> cryonix: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[02:45] <Frederick> I want distcc to build this java package :p
[02:45] <Strongbow[TX]> bbl. dinner is ready.
[02:45] <ToddEDM> Gnea:  thx ..3ghz or better...check
[02:45] <cryonix> ok ill have a look
[02:46] <Gnea> ToddEDM: www.pricewatch.com
[02:47] <cryonix> im so confused
[02:47] <cryonix> i downloaded java_ee_sdk-5_04-linux.bin which was 156mb
[02:47] <Pelo> cryonix,  what are you trying to acheive ?
[02:47] <cryonix> trying to watch youtube clips
[02:47] <cryonix> lol
[02:47] <ToddEDM> Gnea:  thx
[02:48] <joanki> can i send a message to someone who is on irc but i'm not in the same room as them?
[02:48] <Gopher99> joanki, if youre on the same server
[02:48] <FFEMTcJ> does anyone have any experience with using a Cingular/AT&T Wireless internet card on ubuntu? I can't seem to get it to work following some of the tutorials I have found
[02:48] <joanki> Gopher99, how do i find out?
[02:48] <Pelo> cryonix, turn on javascript in the firefox prefs and instaill flash non free
[02:49] <Gopher99> joanki, just /msg (username) (message)
[02:49] <hitme666> any1 ever used a jetway MiniQ Twin + his Remote with ubuntu / linux ? or just question .. is it possible thats a IR-Remote uses same event then a keyboard ?
[02:49] <Gopher99> if you get the wrong guy, heh
[02:49] <joanki> THANKS
[02:50] <RDProg> Hi all I am having trouble with an Ubuntu triple-boot
[02:50] <RDProg> It is Windows XP, Vista and 7.10
[02:50] <Pelo> RDProg, vista is the problme I take it ?
[02:50] <RDProg> and after Install GRUB wasn't installed so it just boots to Windows
[02:51] <TheRedBaron> RDProg: in which order did you install the Operating systems?
[02:51] <RDProg> I stalled XP, Vista, Ubuntu
[02:51] <Pelo> RDProg, get the supergrub cd and you can use it to fix stage 1 and the grub menu
[02:51] <RDProg> because in the past it has just auto-configured Grub
[02:51] <atlef> RDProg:  this can be done with the live cd
[02:51] <Lycade> Anyone know how to access logs for xchat? I need to look at some advice that was given to me before. >.>
[02:52] <Pelo> !log
[02:52] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ - See also « /msg ubotu ircstats »
[02:52] <icesword> Lycade, ~/.xchat?
[02:52] <atlef> RDProg: no need for extra cd
[02:52] <RDProg> atlef, I have tried it, but cannot figure out how, any good tutorials online? or even better some sort of GUI grub editor?
[02:52] <Gopher99> Lycade, have you logged xchat in the options also/
[02:52] <Pelo> icesword,  he means the channel logs
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> RDProg, Windows overwrote the mbr...  very common..  ubuntu needs to be installed last or if windows was reinstalled, you need to see the page to follow
[02:52] <atlef> RDProg: 2sek
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[02:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:52] <Gopher99> there's an option to do it so that you can access .txt
[02:52] <Genius314> Is it possible to change or disable the "ctrl-alt-F5" shortcut? I need those keys to record video in DOSbox... or is there a way to change the shortcut for DOSbox?
[02:52] <Lycade> Channel logs, correct.
[02:52] <RDProg> atlef - ok
[02:52] <kestir> I thought he meant the xchat logs
[02:52] <Lycade> Thanks, Pelo
[02:52] <icesword> Pelo, that he can see his own logs,much easier
[02:52] <kestir> irc is not xchat
[02:52] <RDProg> jack_sparrow, I installed xp, then vista, then 7.10
[02:53] <RDProg> I've never had this problem setting up dual boots
[02:53] <Pelo> icesword, he might not be loging the channel,, probabaly isn'T , it's not on by default
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> RDProg, see the link
[02:53] <icesword> Pelo, hmm
[02:53] <FFEMTcJ> does anyone have any experience with using a Cingular/AT&T Wireless internet card on ubuntu? I can't seem to get it to work following some of the tutorials I have found
[02:54] <atlef> RDProg: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[02:54] <PAPAH> gyitiut
[02:54] <atlef> the method i prefer
[02:54] <PAPAH> jhuu
[02:54] <PAPAH> jhi
[02:54] <PAPAH> hi
[02:55] <unstable> /wc/wc
[02:55] <Alan_M> here we go :(
[02:56] <RDProg> atlef: i followed that and am not rebooting
[02:57] <atlef> RDProg: what is your disk setup
[02:57] <Pelo> FFEMTcJ, not that I tink I can help but what part of the tutorial are yuou having issues with ?
[02:57] <RDProg> atlef: i have 3 HDDs, 2 for storage, on 80GB with 3 25GB partitions and the rest swap
[02:57] <RDProg> the first partition is XP, then vista, then Ubuntu
[02:57] <Genius314> Is it possible to disable the shortcut "Ctrl-Alt-F5"?
[02:57] <FFEMTcJ> pelo, can I send you a msg
[02:58] <icesword> !console
[02:58] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:58] <atlef> RDProg: and what did find return
[02:58] <Pelo> FFEMTcJ, no you can'T I don'T allow it , just talk to me in the chanel, so everyone can learn
[02:58] <_plague_87> hi
[02:58] <icesword> _plague_87, hi
[02:59] <Mongo2> hey
[02:59] <strick242> hi
[02:59] <FFEMTcJ> Well.. I have found a couple of tutorials, none of which are with my particular card, or with ubuntu.. But they should be similar.. Basically I have followed the directions, and none of them have worked. So I wanted to see if anyone had any pointers.
[02:59] <qcjn> Jack_Sparrow: since i have an other sata hard drive with an "usb 2.0 to ide/sata adaptor kit" sa i can plug directly in an hd, so i did it, an ubuntu sees it.
[02:59] <RDProg> atlef: I did as that forum post suggested now I have grub at restart but each option returns the error:
[02:59] <_plague_87> i em from serbia
[02:59] <_plague_87> my englis is.....
[02:59] <_plague_87> no good
[02:59] <nixnoobie> hello all
[02:59] <Pelo> !sb
[02:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <Gopher99> do you need help wih anything?
[03:00] <RDProg> atlef: error 22 no such partition (for the 3 ubuntu options)
[03:00] <Jack_Sparrow> qcjn, That does not surprise me..  glad you got it to see a drive
[03:00] <bazhang> FFEMTcJ: you are using a tutorial meant for a different linux distro?
[03:00] <Lord_Nightmare> anyone have any ideas for how to deal with the following: i have a failing ntfs hdd in a laptop, a usb external ntfs drive, and a xubuntu gutsy livecd
[03:00] <icesword> RDProg, paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:00] <_plague_87> i have linux Ubuntu 7.10
[03:00] <_plague_87> and
[03:00] <RDProg> atlef: for vista it says error 13 invalid or unsupported executable format
[03:00] <_plague_87> i wont to
[03:00] <Pelo> _plague_87, what other language do you speak , mabe we can find a channel for you
[03:00] <icesword> bazhang, hi
[03:00] <Lord_Nightmare> i'm using gddrescue to copy the data off the ntfs bad hdd
[03:00] <_plague_87> make home network
[03:00] <Mongo2> ??
[03:00] <_plague_87> whit
[03:00] <FFEMTcJ> bazhang: there are none that I can find for ubuntu.. So that's the best I have to go off of
[03:00] <_plague_87> linux ubuntu server
[03:00] <nixnoobie> anybody know of a way to edit preferences for specific screensavers?
[03:00] <Pelo> !enter | _plague_87
[03:00] <ubotu> _plague_87: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:00] <FFEMTcJ> :-(
[03:00] <RDProg> atlef: ok, gimme a sec, reboot takes a while
[03:00] <Lord_Nightmare> normally this would work fine except for the problem with the hdd
[03:00] <one_matthias> anyone using ati mobility radeon -?
[03:00] <atlef> RDProg: i would 1. reinstall xp mbr, then vista mbr then grub
[03:01] <qcjn> Jack_Sparrow: so it looks like the problem is the card
[03:01] <nobby> hi, anyone know how to deal when apt-get throws up the following message:  Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[03:01] <Lord_Nightmare> unlike most failing hdds, this drive does not hive data errors when it hits a bad sector
[03:01] <RDProg> atlef: what would suggest as the best way of going about that?
[03:01] <bazhang> FFEMTcJ: what is the exact issue please be precise; tell us what you are trying to achieve what you have done, and the exact errors you are receiving
[03:01] <Lord_Nightmare> the whole drive firmware on the drive MCU on its i/o board hangs
[03:01] <Lord_Nightmare> and when it hangs, ubuntu freezes as well
[03:01] <FFEMTcJ> I'm not recieving errors.. Just not connecting with cingular.
[03:02] <atlef> RDProg: id suggest you go searchin the forums a little, it is long and kinda complicated if you do not know what you are doing
[03:02] <Genius314> I want to disable the shortcut "Ctrl-Alt-F5," but I'm not sure where it can be changed...
[03:02] <bazhang> FFEMTcJ: sorry if you dont provide precise info no way to help you
[03:02] <Pelo> !sr | _plague_87
[03:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:02] <one_matthias> nobby:  what do you mean ?
[03:02] <Pelo> arrrhhhggggg
[03:03] <Lord_Nightmare> i was hoping there was some way to have ubuntu load hdparm into a ramdisk or by cron job or something so i can see if hdparm can reset the drive
[03:03] <orangey> hey all.
[03:03] <_plague_87> who know to tallking serbian
[03:03] <_plague_87> ????
[03:03] <orangey> What do people recommend for an IMAP daemon on a server?
[03:03] <Pelo> _plague_87, what other language do you speak ?
[03:03] <Lord_Nightmare> but ubuntu seems well and truly crashed once the drive hangs, switching console from X to vc1 makes the mouse disappear and thats it
[03:04] <_plague_87> only serbian
[03:04] <nobby> one_matthias: I recently got some e17 updates through the package manager.  When I tried to update I got some error messages.  Now I can't install or update any packages.  And running apt-get install -f produces that error, along with others
[03:04] <Lord_Nightmare> my next best idea is to hot-power-cycle the drive somehow
[03:04] <_plague_87> my englis is not very well
[03:04] <Lord_Nightmare> which has a good chance of totalling the already damaged drive and frying the mb
[03:04] <Gopher99> _plague_87, how can we help
[03:04] <Pelo> _plague_87, then you will have to speak in english, we do not hve a serbian channel
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !msg ubotu cz
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msg ubotu cz - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <Lord_Nightmare> Jack_Sparrow: try !cz
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !cz
[03:05] <ubotu> České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.
[03:05] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, that,s czeck , it's nothing like serbain
[03:05] <bazhang> #ubuntu-rs _plague_87
[03:05] <RDProg> atlef: i am back in the liveCD is there anything i can do from here before trying to repair the windows MBRs?
[03:05] <Lord_Nightmare> RDProg: yes!
[03:05] <bazhang> serbia is rs folks
[03:05] <Lord_Nightmare> try sudo apt-get install testdisk
[03:05] <Lord_Nightmare> er...
[03:05] <crshman> hey all, where do i put in the options for the kernels so that when i install a new one all my old options get carried over?
[03:06] <bazhang> _plague_87:  type /j #ubuntu-rs
[03:06] <Genius314> Can shortcuts such as "Ctrl-Alt-F5" be disabled or changed?
[03:06] <_plague_87> ok
[03:06] <Lord_Nightmare> try 'sudo apt-get install testdisk' once you get networking working and have enabled the two universe lines in /etc/apt/sources.lst
[03:06] <RDProg> lord: then what?
[03:06] <Lord_Nightmare> RDProg: but read the manual for testdisk first
[03:06] <atlef> RDProg: if previous mentioned thread did not work for you, im not sure how to help
[03:07] <thechitowncubs> Good evening everyone!
[03:07] <Lord_Nightmare> testdisk is a very advanced program for recovering lost partitions, fixing mbrs etc
[03:07] <thechitowncubs> Whats the most user friendly video editing software for Gnome?
[03:07] <jrib> thechitowncubs: try pitivi or kino
[03:07] <thechitowncubs> jrib: thank you
[03:08] <FFEMTcJ> bazhang: this is where I have finally gotten to.. I am using gnomeppp... I guess I have all of the settings right (or close to right) because it finally was able to detect the carrier.. Then it says "Waiting for prompt". Then "Notice: Don't know what to do! Starting pppd and hoping for the best."
[03:09] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat channel list here ;]
[03:09] <FFEMTcJ> bazhang: it then starts pppd and gives a warning that it can't modify /etc/ppp/pap-secrets: permission denied.
[03:09] <_plague_87> any link about networc for ubuntu i wont to make home network
[03:09] <ethan961> secrets!
[03:09] <FFEMTcJ> then Pasward authentication protocol pay be flakey and then the same with chap-secrets and the challenge handshake may be flakey
[03:09] <leo_rockw> thechitowncubs: i like avidemux
[03:09] <Lord_Nightmare> RDProg: private message me, i'll get you the link to the testdisk faq and instructions for use
[03:10] <Lord_Nightmare> RDProg: using testdisk without knowing what you're doing is an easy way to make an already bad data recovery problem even worse
[03:10] <OasisGames> Quick Q: Did someone break FF3 in Hardy? I'm getting a GRE error and I have someone else with the same error.
[03:10] <bazhang> FFEMTcJ: have you contacted the carrier? do they allow that sort of authentication? not sure how to advise as we have municipal wifi here
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardy | OasisGames
[03:10] <ubotu> OasisGames: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[03:11] <OasisGames> I see... Didn't even know there was a +1 channel...
[03:11] <FFEMTcJ> All the info I have comes from guides of other Cingular/ATT customers and how they got it to work.. So yes, they do..
[03:11] <bazhang> _plague_87: what kind of home network? you mean a wireless network? you might have a better time if you /j #ubuntu-rs