[01:12] <wallyworld> anastasiamac: here's the huge PR https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/9024
[01:13]  * anastasiamac squints at it
[01:15] <babbageclunk> anastasiamac: aw man, swap?
[01:15] <anastasiamac> babbageclunk: nuh
[01:15]  * babbageclunk sighs
[01:15] <anastasiamac> also babbageclunk, i won that one as already lgtm'ed :)
[01:15]  * babbageclunk snost and lost
[01:16] <anastasiamac> tra-lah-lah
[02:04] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: reviewed 9006
[02:05] <wallyworld> awesome ty
[02:05] <wallyworld> will look after these cmr bugs
[02:09] <thumper> babbageclunk: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/9025, I need to go add a few tests to show things hooked up...
[02:09] <thumper> wallyworld: ^^
[02:09] <wallyworld> will look soon
[02:09] <thumper> sure, np
[02:09] <thumper> it still needs some changes
[02:11] <babbageclunk> thumper: 1st sentence of the description seems like it's truncated?
[02:11] <thumper> uh... yeah
[02:12] <thumper> probably matches my thought process while typing
[02:26] <thumper> babbageclunk: so writing the extra tests I felt that I really wanted the Reporter interface defined in the worker package, so ...https://github.com/juju/worker/pull/6
[02:48]  * thumper wonders if the spam attack on freenode is done yet
[02:50] <thumper> seems not
[02:54] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: i just glanced at review, ty. quick comment - params.IsCodeNotFound(err) sadly does barf if err is nil :-(
[02:55] <wallyworld> i found out the hard way
[02:56] <thumper> wallyworld: https://github.com/juju/worker/pull/6 ??
[02:56] <thumper> it is very small
[02:58] <wallyworld> thumper: lgtm
[03:25] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: oh stink! Weird, reading it it doesn't seem like it should. Maybe a typed nil is getting in there?
[03:26] <anastasiamac> babbageclunk: wallyworld is not in the channel?...
[03:27] <babbageclunk> ha, I started replying to him before he left
[03:27] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: oh stink! Weird, reading it it doesn't seem like it should. Maybe a typed nil is getting in there?
[03:27] <anastasiamac> :)
[03:28] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: yeah, i think that's what it is
[03:29] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: oh, probably because it's a *params.Error explicitly on the struct.
[03:29] <thumper> I think this one is ready now... https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/9025
[03:30] <wallyworld> looking
[03:36] <thumper> wallyworld: there are even some worker import cleanups for ya
[03:36] <wallyworld> i know!
[03:39] <wallyworld> thumper: looks good to me, all seems fairly straight forward
[03:39] <thumper> wallyworld: yeah, it isn't complex
[03:39] <thumper> just joining dots
[03:40] <wallyworld> yup
[04:40] <thumper> wallyworld: this is needed to move catacomb, dependency, and workertest out of the juju repo into the worker.v1 https://github.com/juju/testing/pull/139
[04:41] <wallyworld> ok
[04:41] <wallyworld> lgtm
[04:41] <thumper> where is the bot on this?
[05:01] <thumper> wallyworld: https://github.com/juju/worker/pull/7/files
[05:01] <thumper> this just moves the catacomb, dependency and workertest packages to worker.v1
[05:01] <wallyworld> ok
[05:01] <wallyworld> +4000!!!
[05:03] <babbageclunk> lol
[05:03] <wallyworld> thumper: did we really want to add the dep engine to the worker package. i guess it can go there. but i think maybe the intent was to keep the work package purely as a way to manage go routines nicely
[05:03] <wallyworld> should the dep endgine be a separate repo
[05:04] <thumper> wallyworld: it is in a package
[05:04] <thumper> wallyworld: the engine runs workers
[05:04] <wallyworld> ok
[05:04] <thumper> it is quite tightly connected
[05:04] <wallyworld> lgtm
[08:45] <stickupkid> anastasiamac: I'm working through the tests atm, but I was more wondering if you think there is any potential issues in changing this, that I might want to test ?
[08:46] <anastasiamac> stickupkid: if u look for hardoded test with "xenial" in it, the test names will give u an indication of whether they now should be 'bionic" :)
[09:05] <drcode> hi all
[09:06] <drcode> I have installed MAAS , dose juju charm  have supprot for ubuntu 18.04 ?
[10:44] <stickupkid> does anyone know how the provider tests work around uploading binary versions? bit of background, I'm bumping the LTS from xenial to bionic and it looks like the right version are being uploaded, but i get an error message stating that there are no versions available...
[10:45] <stickupkid> otherwise i'll start digging to see how the mock layer works... etc - this seems to hit aws-ec2 and joyent
[10:57] <anastasiamac> stickupkid: commented on the PR but the info feels kind of obvious ;) u've got it under control
[10:57] <stickupkid> anastasiamac: perfect - thank-you
[10:58] <anastasiamac> stickupkid: as for the verion q above, are u sure ur local copy get uploaded?
[10:59] <stickupkid> https://pastebin.canonical.com/p/cYsSJ2KGHw/
[11:00] <stickupkid> just reading the test log it would seem so, but then again, i'm just started digging into how the test is setup.
[11:01] <anastasiamac> stickupkid: ah, ignore my question.. i thought u were testing live...
[11:01] <stickupkid> live works, tests doesn't :p
[11:01] <anastasiamac> stickupkid: this i can help u dig for :) gimme a sec
[11:42] <anastasiamac> stickupkid: m stil digging but my output from ec2 TestStartStop is different to urs -https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/Xqp4k73PmZ/
[11:43] <anastasiamac> stickupkid: i have stuff related to availability zones and storage before image search is hit... did u change something else on ur system?.
[11:47] <anastasiamac> stickupkid: also, have played with new images coming in into testing but this looks a place to make sure u have bionic equivalents for xenial entries... https://github.com/juju/juju/tree/develop/environs/imagedownloads/testdata
[11:51] <anastasiamac> stickupkid: or mayb not, as they seem to be only used for kvm and wrapped command testing...
[12:05] <axino> bdx: hi
[12:05] <axino> bdx: did you deploy cs:~omnivector/sentry recently ?
[14:58] <stickupkid> anybody think I should spend the time on cleaning up LTS - https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/9023#issuecomment-411081657
[15:13] <hml> stickupkid: clean up is good, it’s hard to get to later and we’ll have forgotten the pain by the next LTS.  my 2 cents.  :-)
[15:20] <hml> rick_h_:  i think i found a flaw in the way the EnvVar are used in juju add-cloud, they don’t get validated.  :-/
[15:21] <stickupkid> hml: aren't those things validated in interactive mode?
[15:21] <rick_h_> hml: they're not validated once they're loaded as the default values and sent through the schema work?
[15:21] <hml> stickupkid: not if i stick the env var in as a default prompt value
[15:21] <rick_h_> hml: is it because default values are not validated at all?
[15:22] <hml> rick_h_: i think that’s it
[15:22] <rick_h_> well, file a bug I guess. that's a bummer
[15:22] <hml> rick_h_: i’m still working on that code so i can fix it.
[15:22] <hml> just annoying.
[15:22] <hml> must be something with how default and defaultprompt work.
[15:23] <rick_h_> hml: ok, if it's easy. otherwise let's try to move on.
[15:23] <rick_h_> we've got 2.4.2 freeze friday and that's not the most important bug for 2.4.2
[15:43] <hml> rick_h_: this code isn’t going into 2.4 branch anyways
[15:43] <rick_h_> hml: right, I just mean that the hope was to address some issues for 2.4.2 this week.
[15:44] <hml> rick_h_: ack
[20:58] <hml> wallyworld: ping
[20:59] <wallyworld> hey, just about to have meeting, can we catch up in say 30 at release call?
[20:59] <hml> wallyworld: sounds good
[21:13] <veebers> wallyworld: I built your mariadb charm, but I get the error on deploy: from charms.layer.basic import pod_spec_set. I suspect I need to update that somehow? (I"m using snap installed charm command for that)
[21:14] <wallyworld> veebers: in a meeting, but if you pull the latest source code it will work
[21:14] <wallyworld> i updated the charms in my repo last night
[21:14] <wallyworld> to ue the latest layer stuff
[21:15] <veebers> ack
[21:16] <veebers> ah I see
[21:30] <wallyworld> hml: rick_h_: i'm still in k8s meeting, will be late
[21:48] <hml> wallyworld: release call is over, ping me when you’re available pl
[21:48] <hml> pls
[22:00] <thumper> wallyworld: I have a small review for you as well... https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/9032
[22:00]  * wallyworld adds it to queue, still in k8s calls
[22:00] <thumper> 395 files changed, +591 −4,900
[22:01] <thumper> babbageclunk, veebers, hml, doesn't have to be wallyworld to review
[22:01] <thumper> while large, the branch only touches imports, and only touches worker.v1 imports
[22:02] <thumper> (and updates dependency.tsv for the imports)
[22:02]  * veebers looks
[22:03] <veebers> thumper: why is this going into 2.4, is it for a bug fix?
[22:04] <thumper> it is just code cleanup, and I prefer to keep things clean???
[22:04] <veebers> thumper: ack
[22:09] <veebers> thumper: with the worker.v1 dep change, is there much difference with the latest and what we release in 2.4.1?
[22:09] <veebers> looks like there is only a couple hours between shas in that diff, not sure off the top of my head which sha we released with
[22:11] <wallyworld> veebers: can you join us https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/weekly-caas
[22:11] <veebers> wallyworld: omw
[22:13] <thumper> veebers: it is exactly the same
[22:13] <thumper> veebers: well, I took the packages from 2.4 branch and moved them to worker.v1
[22:13] <thumper> then updated deps
[22:14] <thumper> no code changes due to this move
[22:23] <veebers> ack
[22:24] <wallyworld> hml: jump back in release HO?
[22:24] <hml> wallyworld: omw
[22:25] <veebers> wallyworld: I can't trigger the deps error you saw, I do a godeps in juju develop, go to charmstore-client, make deps and make build and it's all hunkydory
[22:25] <veebers> (this is me saying "builds for me" :-))
[22:26] <cory_fu> wallyworld: Found the resource type validation spot.  :)
[22:26] <wallyworld> yay
[22:26] <veebers> cory_fu: nice!
[22:27] <babbageclunk> thumper: hmm, I wonder where those 4000 lines of code went?
[22:27] <thumper> babbageclunk: into the worker.v1 package
[22:27] <thumper> repo
[22:27] <thumper> babbageclunk: as a different pr yesterday
[22:27]  * babbageclunk forgot sarcasm tag
[22:28] <thumper> the sarcasterix
[22:28] <thumper> sarcasm never works well over writtern communication
[22:28] <thumper> some birds have worked out how to use our nectar feeder now
[22:29] <thumper> hazaah
[22:29] <babbageclunk> I can't believe unicode doesn't have the irony mark in it! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony_punctuation
[22:30] <babbageclunk> hmm, hang on, maybe it does
[22:32] <babbageclunk> ⸮ boom ?
[22:36] <kwmonroe> great babbageclunk, you've crashed my irc client.
[22:36] <veebers> thumper: done
[22:36] <babbageclunk> kwmonroe: sorry!
[22:36] <veebers> hahah
[22:37] <veebers> thumper: nice! You expecting a lot of Tui to hit it? I love our neighbors have a couple set up, we get so many Tui around
[22:37]  * veebers watches his charm push crawl to a halt pushing a docker image
[22:37]  * babbageclunk was tempted to make that sorry sarcastic but it seemed churlish.
[22:38] <kwmonroe> no worries babbageclunk, i've been meaning to upgrade my quassel for a while.  this is great motivation :)  i also recently realized i can't send a comment with two hash tags without it hanging..
[22:39] <babbageclunk> Oh, I was wondering how were still talking after your client crashed, but I guess the quassel intermediary is still running fine?
[22:40] <babbageclunk> gah, menno'd it - ...how you were...
[22:41] <kwmonroe> yeah babbageclunk, the server is on something ridiculous like precise (maybe older).  it doesn't care about much.  my client is like quassel version 0.pre-alpha.scary on bleeding edge osx and it hangs if i look at it funny.
[22:42] <kwmonroe> the good news (maybe?) is that i can fall back to the android client to say things like "great babbageclunk" when my desktop quassel crashes ;)
[22:44] <babbageclunk> kwmonroe: heh
[22:47] <veebers> cory_fu: would love to compare notes when you've sorted the snap build parts; see if there is room for improvements for how we do things currently
[22:48] <cory_fu> veebers: Definitely
[22:48] <cory_fu> wallyworld, veebers: PR for tracking master and fixing the proof errors: https://github.com/juju/charm-tools/pull/434
[22:49] <wallyworld> cory_fu: wow, quick, looking in a sec
[22:50] <cory_fu> wallyworld, veebers: ugh.  test is looking for the exact proof error.  I'll have to fix that, but please review anyway.
[22:51] <cory_fu> I'll follow-up on the PR tomorrow, but you're welcome to use that branch for a local build in the meantime.  Heading out for now.  o/
[22:51] <wallyworld> see ya
[22:51] <veebers> cory_fu: have a good one o/
[22:52] <wallyworld> kelvinliu: i'm free now for 1:1. man so many meetings this morning. entering hour 3
[22:52] <kelvinliu> wallyworld, yup, cu in HO
[22:57] <thumper> veebers: hoping to get some tui, we did have one around the other day before we up the feeder up
[22:58] <veebers> thumper: we have so many around here they are almost pests ^_^  There will be 4-8 Tui in the tree beside the driveway. Love it
[23:00] <veebers> wallyworld: do you have your mariadb charm pushed and published to the staging charmstore, I cannot get the image pushed with the charm :-|
[23:01] <wallyworld> veebers: just in 1:1 with kelvin. but no because i couldn't get charm built
[23:01] <wallyworld> will try again today
[23:02] <veebers> ok, I'll keep trying. I haven't seen the error you mentioned earlier about blank resources, trying to repro
[23:06] <veebers> With Discourse does anyone else feel less likely to 'like' a post because it's a heart and that seems just a little too much for a post?  as in "I like your comment, but I don't like-like it."
[23:11] <rick_h_> veebers: share the love dude
[23:13] <veebers> rick_h_: ^_^
[23:14] <babbageclunk> thumper: do you have any utilities for making testing code that uses pubsub a bit more convenient?
[23:15] <wpk> veebers: I believe the proper wording is "I'm not ready for a relationship with your comment"
[23:15] <veebers> wpk: hah ^_^
[23:15] <veebers> wpk: How goes things ?
[23:16] <wpk> veebers: good, good. Spent some nice time with wallyworld, thumper, and jam in Montreal a few weeks ago :)
[23:17] <veebers> wpk: oh, very cool!
[23:18] <wpk> veebers: coincidentally, IETF102 was at the same time, at the same place, as Canonical management sprint
[23:20] <veebers> wpk: excellent timing
[23:25] <wpk> veebers: it would be even nicer if people from Canonical would come to IETF meetings (people from RH come), but still ;)
[23:30] <veebers> :-)
[23:38] <thumper> babbageclunk: like what?
[23:40] <babbageclunk> thumper: not sure really - just something to make all the goroutines and channels a bit simpler. I might have to roll my own anyway, since it's more request/responsey.
[23:40] <thumper> babbageclunk: perhaps we could chat after lunch, I found some patterns that might be useful
[23:41] <babbageclunk> ok, that would be cool
[23:42] <kwmonroe> babbageclunk: do you want to sub and test off juju core pubs, or charm pubs?
[23:43] <babbageclunk> kwmonroe: I mean testing code that uses the pubsub hub - https://github.com/juju/pubsub
[23:44] <babbageclunk> not sure about those other pubs.
[23:45] <veebers> kelvinliu: had a quick look, everything seems good with that ci-run change, I've rebuilt that unit test job out of interest, see what it does this time around
[23:46] <kelvinliu> veebers, awesome, thanks
[23:46] <veebers> nw
[23:46] <kwmonroe> babbageclunk: aaaahhh. ok then, go ahead and crach my irc client at will.  i thought you were referring to a generic pub/sub testing model.  eg, you have a bundle that includes something like nagios (which you don't control), yet you want your bundle re-tested and published any time nagios is updated.
[23:47] <kwmonroe> ^^ that's obviously charm specific and has nothing to do with juju/pubsub.  but by golly, i could tell you a lot about it.
[23:48] <babbageclunk> kwmonroe: ah, right! Yeah, I could see that being pretty difficult.
[23:54]  * thumper merges 2.4 into develop
[23:56] <veebers> wallyworld: I can't imagine this is a good thing to see: WARNING juju.workers.caasunitprovisioner k8s event watcher closed, restarting


[16:45] <kro2488> pendrive linux website and the option other than unetbootin worked for me
[16:45] <doug_seven> I am using Ubuntu 14.04 LTs
[16:45] <doug_seven> but it keeps crashing
[16:45] <quants> k1L_ windows 7 starter
[16:45] <doug_seven> ans sending out error reports
[16:45] <doug_seven> anyway I cna fix that ?
[16:45] <k1l_> kro2488: look at that last paste you did. the last line starting not with a # is directing to a trusty repo. we need to make that a precise to not get issues
[16:46] <k1l_> quants: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[16:46] <ioria> doug_seven,  can you be more specific, please ?
[16:46] <doug_seven> whn I am on firefox
[16:46] <doug_seven> i close all by itself
[16:47] <doug_seven> *it
[16:47] <quants> k1l_ thank you
[16:47] <k1l_> kro2488: in terminal: "sudo /etc/apt/sources.list" then in the editor go to that line and change the "trusty" to a "precise". after that press ctrl+o to save it and ctrl+x to exit. after that "sudo apt-get update" again
[16:47] <kro2488> uhh k1l_: which line?
[16:47] <doug_seven> and the when I try to reload firefox again same problem
[16:47] <BluesKaj> quants, let's start from the begining , what operating systems do yo have installed on your machine, and what do you want to do with Ubuntu?
[16:47] <k1l_> kro2488: line 13
[16:47] <k1l_> kro2488: that is a 12.04 install, right?
[16:48] <ioria> doug_seven,  try this in terminal  :  sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0-*
[16:48] <doug_seven> also sometimes even before I start to use ubuntu, prior to loading the desktop I get a message saying that ubuntu has crashed
[16:48] <k1l_> kro2488: "lsb_release -d" will tell you
[16:48] <YesLe> Hi guys, I need help backing up a mysql database on an ubuntu server using SSH. I'm given a username and password with all privileges, but not the root account. I kept getting "Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)" when typing mysql. Any idea?
[16:48] <quants> Blueskaj im waning to put lubuntu ontu a windows 7 starter system as windows is horible.
[16:49] <kro2488> it says that the release command is not found
[16:49] <teward> kro2488: the command is lsb_release
[16:49] <doug_seven> thanks for helping ioria
[16:49] <teward> the _ is part of the command
[16:49] <doug_seven> I loaded the command
[16:49] <kro2488> no lsb modules available
[16:49] <kro2488> it says
[16:50] <k1l_> kro2488: "lsb_release -d"
[16:50] <teward> kro2488: lsb_release -d
[16:50] <kro2488> ubuntu 14.02 lts
[16:50] <k1l_> kro2488: stop
[16:50] <doug_seven> 0 to upgrade, 59 to newly install, 0 to remove and 25 not to upgrade. Need to get 34.4 MB of archives. After this operation, 119 MB of additional disk space will be used.
[16:50] <kro2488> 14.04. lts
[16:50] <kro2488> mistyptes
[16:50] <kro2488> mistyped
[16:50] <k1l_> kro2488: details matter a lot. so make sure you dont make typos now
[16:51] <kro2488> its 14.04.2
[16:51] <k1l_> kro2488: so how come your sources.list points to 12.04?
[16:51] <k1l_> kro2488: what did you do there?
[16:51] <kro2488> i had an issue with it
[16:51] <kro2488> i had to make it from scratch
[16:51] <kro2488> but besides that nothing
[16:52] <k1l_> kro2488: no. what version did you install?
[16:52] <doug_seven> ioria?
[16:52] <kro2488> of ubuntu>
[16:52] <kro2488> ?
[16:52] <k1l_> yes, of ubuntu
[16:52] <kro2488> i think it was 12
[16:52] <kro2488> something
[16:52] <ioria> doug_seven,  say yes
[16:52] <k1l_> kro2488: and then?
[16:52] <kro2488> and then what
[16:52] <k1l_> kro2488: you system is a mess.
[16:53] <BluesKaj> quants, what do you mean by "put  lubuntu ontu a windows 7 starter system " ?
[16:53] <k1l_> it says its a 14.04, but the sources say it should be a 12.04.
[16:53] <kro2488> ah
[16:53] <doug_seven> I did
[16:53] <kro2488> how to fix that>
[16:53] <loa> hello. I have question about using zram and zswap... can somebody explain why my zram is always free, even with swappiness 100?
[16:53] <doug_seven> so now it will update the archives and other files
[16:53] <k1l_> so right now we need to find out what is going on to think about if that is fixable or if you will need a clean install
[16:53] <doug_seven> but what about the crash?
[16:54] <kro2488> ok how do i open sources text file
[16:54] <kro2488> lets look
[16:54] <k1l_> kro2488: therefore i ask: what did you do exactly? because no ubuntu comes to that state without a user doing stuff
[16:54] <ioria> doug_seven,  it should fix the crash o fFF
[16:54] <doug_seven> okey thanks
[16:54] <kro2488> it asked to do updates but i didnt let it yet before i wanted to install skype
[16:54] <doug_seven> can I ask soemthing else please?
[16:54] <k1l_> kro2488: did you change the sources on that system?
[16:54] <kro2488> yes i got a line error
[16:54] <BluesKaj> quants, do you want to replace windows with Ubuntu?
[16:54] <kro2488> so i copy and pasted from a help website
[16:55] <kro2488> to just make sources afresh
[16:55] <doug_seven> whenever I bot my laptop, the computer loads and then reaches the screen where ubuntu appears with the dots underneath
[16:55] <k1l_> kro2488: can you show that page and what you did?
[16:55] <kro2488> let me find it
[16:55] <quants> bluekaj yes, sorry im new
[16:55] <doug_seven> at this point the screen flickers until I press 'enter' on the keyboard
[16:55] <doug_seven> anyway to fix that please?
[16:56] <kro2488> k1l: http://askubuntu.com/questions/78951/how-do-i-remove-a-malformed-line-from-my-sources-list
[16:56] <kro2488> i did number 8
[16:56] <k1l_> kro2488: ok, what gives you: "uname -a"
[16:57] <ioria> doug_seven,  check first if your firefox is ok...  and please put the nickname in
[16:58] <kro2488> uname -a
[16:58] <kro2488> Linux kro24889-X202E 3.16.0-31-generic #41~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Feb 11 19:30:13 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:59] <kro2488> i think its interesting i cant find skype in the software center where i could on my desktop
[16:59] <BluesKaj> quants, do you have ubuntu iso/image installed on a usb stick?
[16:59] <k1l_> kro2488: ok. so you are on a 14.04 system and changed the repos to 12.04 back because of that help, which was directed to someone usin 12.04
[16:59] <kro2488> ah i diddnt even realize
[16:59] <k1l_> kro2488: skype is the last problem you got right now
[17:00] <kro2488> should be easy to fix right
[17:01] <kro2488> just find a default source list for 14.04?
[17:01] <biella> ah
[17:02] <k1l_> kro2488:  sudo sed -i 's/precise/trusty/' /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:03] <k1l_> kro2488: after that please pastebin the sources.list again with "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[17:03] <BluesKaj> quants, if not , read this and follow the instructions that fit your situation, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.10/release/
[17:04] <kro2488> i get a no input file error on first command
[17:04] <kro2488> maybe i didnt type it exact?
[17:04] <k1l_> copy and paste it!
[17:04] <k1l_> there is no room for typos now
[17:05] <doug_seven> hello again Ioria
[17:05] <doug_seven> sorry but got disconnected and could not find the channel
[17:05] <kro2488> ok i did the first one but it didnt say anything after
[17:05] <kro2488> is that normal
[17:05] <k1l_> yes.
[17:05] <kro2488> ok onto second
[17:05] <k1l_> now 2nd command and show the output in pastebin
[17:06] <doug_seven> hello again
[17:06] <doug_seven> can I ask something please
[17:07] <kro2488> http://pastebin.com/8gUqhiBY
[17:07] <doug_seven> when ever i boot ubuntu, the computer loads up to the screen with ubuntu written underneath there are the five or six dots
[17:07] <k1l_> kro2488: now "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[17:07] <doug_seven> at this point my screen start to flicker
[17:08] <doug_seven> anyway I can fix that? I have to select enter everytime to proceed
[17:08] <slackrulez> doug_seven: ubuntu sucks, why wont you try something else? like debian, or slackware
[17:09] <kro2488> http://pastebin.com/8gUqhiBY
[17:09] <ioria> doug_seven,  it's a  video   driver issue,i think
[17:09] <doug_seven> erm simply cause I am a newbit and I am not familiar with the command lines
[17:09] <ioria> doug_seven,  nvidia driver ?
[17:09] <doug_seven> how do I update the video driver?
[17:10] <doug_seven> I don;t know
[17:10] <doug_seven> It's an old hp 6720s
[17:10] <doug_seven> I kicked windows vista off and instaled ubuntu
[17:10] <k1l_> kro2488: that is the old paste :)
[17:11] <slackrulez> doug_seven: if i were you, first thing i would do would be to change from GNOME to something more lightweight
[17:11] <slackrulez> doug_seven: that way at least you can log in and use stuff
[17:11] <doug_seven> i am using unity at the moment
[17:11] <Bumblefluff> I vote i3wm
[17:11] <doug_seven> with the little taskbar on the left
[17:12] <kro2488> http://pastebin.com/MG79k3vQ
[17:12] <slackrulez> doug_seven: well at least you can log in
[17:12] <kro2488> that is what it gives me
[17:12] <kro2488> when i ran that command again
[17:12] <doug_seven> at that yes
 kro2488: now "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[17:12] <ioria> doug_seven,  you need intel drivers
[17:12] <doug_seven> but I read about slackware being command line based
[17:13] <slackrulez> doug_seven: yes but you can always "startx" your way into graphic interface
[17:13] <doug_seven> so since Ubuntu is more graphical it's easier to people like me
[17:13] <kro2488> then i paste it right
[17:13] <kro2488> :P
[17:13] <k1l_> slackrulez: please stop.
[17:13] <k1l_> slackrulez: startx is not the ubuntu way
[17:13] <slackrulez> k1l_: doug has a free will to choose!
[17:14] <doug_seven> don't know 'startx; but I can look it up sure
[17:14] <kro2488> it is updating alot k1L
[17:14] <k1l_> slackrulez: enough of you giving false advice. if you dont want to support ubuntu leave this channel here
[17:14] <doug_seven> so far i have tried mind and ubuntu
[17:14] <k1l_> kro2488: yes, that is fine. let the updates run
[17:14] <slackrulez> doug_seven: it is a script, when in text mode, you can run that command and you "windows" will come up
[17:14] <kro2488> yeah i need to run to restroom brb
[17:14] <slackrulez> doug_seven: /j slackware
[17:15] <ioria> doug_seven,  type lshw and check  what type is the cpu
[17:15] <k1l_> doug_seven: dont listen to the troll trying to get users switch from ubuntu to his favorite distro
[17:16] <kro2488> back
[17:16] <doug_seven> okey i will look Mobile GME965/GLE960 Integrated Graphics Controller
[17:16] <kro2488> ok what should it look like when it stops?
[17:17] <arrayjumper> Hi, I have a problem with my 14.04 ubuntu set up. For the past 2-3 months everytime on powering up and logging on the computer suspends by itself. I have checked to see if any of the start up applications are causing but none of them are. Any ideas what the reason might be?
[17:17] <k1l_> kro2488: your regular command propmt
[17:17] <doug_seven> Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T5670  @ 1.80GHz
[17:17] <kro2488> its still going
[17:17] <kro2488> im hoping this fixes the source list
[17:17] <ioria> doug_seven,  that's  the chipset
[17:17] <kro2488> i didnt notice it was an older source list when i switched it
[17:17] <kro2488> i was just annoyed so much at that point looking for an easy fix
[17:18] <doug_seven> Mobile GME965/GLE960 Integrated Graphics Controller
[17:18] <ioria> doug_seven,  at thetop of thelshw output  you should see the 'cpu'  and in  'display' the graphic
[17:18] <Paddy_NI> hmm... 64GB Micro SD which works on android phone yet refuses to mount on both windows and linux
[17:18] <Bumblefluff> SDXC?
[17:19] <kro2488> ok its done
[17:19] <kro2488> k1l_: its done
[17:19] <Paddy_NI> Bumblefluff, I think so, just a sec
[17:19] <kro2488> ok its asking me to reboot to finish installing
[17:19] <kro2488> i should do it right
[17:19] <doug_seven> *-display:1 UNCLAIMED              description: Display controller              product: Mobile GME965/GLE960 Integrated Graphics Controller              vendor: Intel Corporation              physical id: 2.1
[17:19] <k1l_> kro2488: yes
[17:19] <Paddy_NI> Bumblefluff, Yes, it's this http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00J2BZOUY?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
[17:20] <kro2488> okay ill brb
[17:20] <Paddy_NI> Bumblefluff, There is a small unallocated space at the start of the FS according to GParted
[17:20] <doug_seven> i hope thats what you a re looking for
[17:20] <Paddy_NI> Bumblefluff, Here is the error "Error mounting /dev/sdb1 at /media/patrick/disk: Command-line `mount -t "exfat" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,namecase=0,errors=remount-ro,umask=0077" "/dev/sdb1" "/media/patrick/disk"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: unknown filesystem type 'exfat'"
[17:21] <Paddy_NI> I tried licking it and everything...
[17:21] <Bumblefluff> 14.04?
[17:21] <Paddy_NI> Ubuntu MATE 14.04 which is technically 14.11
[17:21] <ioria> doug_seven,  ok...  go in /etc/X11 and look for  xorg.conf file if exists
[17:22] <linocisco> hi all, lets say I have a domain name and single ubuntu mail server configured using domain name. If internet down to my server, and I dont wanna lose all emails, how could I do?
 if my internet is down for 1 day or 1hr due to some reason, how can I protect now to lose incoming emails especially during these period?
 if my internet is down for 1 day or 1hr due to some reason, how can I protect not to lose incoming emails especially during these period?
[17:22] <Bumblefluff> Probably getting this because xfat filesystem isn't install in Ubuntu by default
[17:22] <Paddy_NI> Oh
[17:22] <linocisco> hi all, lets say I have a domain name and single ubuntu mail server configured using domain name. If internet down to my server, and I dont wanna lose all emails, how could I do?
[17:22] <linocisco> if my internet is down for 1 day or 1hr due to some reason, how can I protect not to lose incoming emails especially during these period?
[17:22] <Paddy_NI> I was not aware of that Bumblefluff
[17:22] <Paddy_NI> That could be relatively simple
[17:22] <Bumblefluff> Paddy_NI: try sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils and try mounting it again
[17:23] <doug_seven> where do i look that up?
[17:23] <rypervenche> linocisco: I would recommend not spamming the room with the same question over and over. Please be patient.
[17:24] <Paddy_NI> Bumblefluff, Remind me to buy you dinner
[17:24] <Paddy_NI> :-)
[17:24] <kro2488> ok im back
[17:24] <Bumblefluff> Paddy_NI: just a beer is good ;)
[17:24] <kro2488> now how to check everything is ok?
[17:24] <Paddy_NI> Bumblefluff, True true.. My wife might get the wrong idea
[17:25] <linocisco> rypervenche, I didn't mean to flood or spam, as previous msg was with error,I resent
[17:25] <Bumblefluff> Paddy_NI: Mine too...
[17:25] <Bumblefluff> She already thinks i love *nix more than her
[17:26] <rypervenche> linocisco: Mail servers should try to resend the message for a certain period of time, so you shouldn't lose mail if it is only for a day.
[17:26] <kro2488> k1l_: you there?
[17:26] <k1l_> yes
[17:26] <kro2488> okay lets check that we fixed the mess
[17:26] <rypervenche> linocisco: If you are very worried about that, then set up a second mail server as a backup to handle it.
[17:27] <linocisco> rypervenche, I dont worry about outgoing mails from our mail server, Just worry about incoming emails from the outside world during this down time
[17:28] <k1l_> kro2488: "sudo apt-get install skype"
[17:29] <kro2488> we wont need to look at source list again?
[17:29] <kro2488> it seems to be installing skype ok now
[17:29] <k1l_> nope. that should not be touched anymore
[17:29] <rypervenche> linocisco: That is what I meant.
[17:29] <kro2488> so do i have the right sources list now tho?
[17:30] <kro2488> assuming so
[17:30] <doug_seven> Intel® 965GME/GLE x86/MMX/SSE2
[17:30] <doug_seven> found it
[17:30] <kro2488> thanks
[17:30] <kro2488> ill go to you guys first instead of the web
[17:30] <kro2488> when i have issues
[17:32] <linocisco> rypervenche, I dont understand well. excuse me. and what about if downtime is more than 3 days.?
[17:32] <rypervenche> linocisco: Messages will drop, if you don't have a second mail server in your MX records.
[17:33] <linocisco> rypervenche, second mail server should also be online , right? so internet is so important to be 24/7 online anyway. We are in the place where there is no stable internet
[17:34] <rypervenche> linocisco: Correct. If you are not in a place where Internet can be stable, then you should not be hosting your own mail.^^
[17:37] <TomyWork> it can be stable, but it isnt :D
[17:54] <EDragon205> Hey guys
[17:54] <EDragon205> I put the ubuntu ISO file in my virtualbox linux folder, but it still says No bootable medium found when I try to run it
[17:54] <k1l_> EDragon205: you need to "put it into the virtualbox cd rom drive"
[17:55] <k1l_> EDragon205: just click the menu on that vbox client and choose the iso to be loaded as cdrom there
[17:55] <EDragon205> Oooh I completely forgot about that step, thanks k1l_
[17:56] <EDragon205> do i put it in IDE or SATA?
[17:58] <k1l_> you can choose the iso there
[18:04] <bmorriso> I'm trying to do a git clone from a preseed. It's from a private repo, so I'm cloning via SSH -- what user am I? So that I can ssh-keyscan github.com > /path/to/user/.ssh/known_hosts
[18:09] <Paddy_NI> I am having a little difficulty finding a clear answer regarding rotating a video file 180 degrees. Most of the answers are using ffmpeg which afaik has been forked or depreciated. Ideally I would like a way of doing this with an absolute minimum of loss in quality.
[18:12] <ioria> Paddy_NI, have you tried avidemux ?
[18:15] <Paddy_NI> ioria, I have not
[18:15] <Paddy_NI> ioria, I'll take a look now
[18:15] <ioria> Paddy_NI, after selecting a video codec select in Filters: Transform: Rotate: add and select 180°, then save
[18:16] <Paddy_NI> ioria, Should video quality be affected in any sort of adverse way?
[18:17] <ioria> Paddy_NI, i'mnot a video guru, but itdepends on your settings and your  system capacity
[18:17] <Paddy_NI> ioria, I'll feel my way around :-)
[18:17] <Paddy_NI> Thank you
[18:17] <ioria> Paddy_NI, np
[18:18] <artu> eai
[18:21] <lyze> Hello guys :)
[18:29] <sine0> I have a laptop with this setup on the harddrive:
[18:29] <sine0> ./ boot / swap / gentoo                 / windows 7        /  storage  .../
[18:30] <sine0> I want to replace gentoo with ubuntu, will the setup allow me to install onto that partition and uuse the current swap and update tehh grub boot loader
[18:30] <naminoit> nousautres
[18:32] <ObrienDave> sine0, yes, if you're careful
[18:33] <ablegreen_w> I need a tool to install Ubuntu and install a bunch of Python modules from canonical on multiple computers. Any ideas?
[18:35] <OerHeks> !offline| ablegreen_w
[18:36] <ablegreen_w> Okay I will check that out, thanks
[18:36] <lyze> how do i use a server password in irssi with a : in it? (the pw is a oauth token)
[18:36] <Rapture> do you have to umount before performing resize2fs?
[18:37] <ablegreen_w> ubottu: How do I launch Synaptic from the terminal>?
[18:38] <OerHeks> ablegreen_w, synaptic is not installed standard, sudo apt-get install synaptic
[18:38] <ablegreen_w> Okay thanks,.
[18:39] <Pici> lyze: try asking in #irssi
[18:40] <ablegreen_w> When I edit the connections in the graphical Network Manager tool, how come my changes aren't reflected in my /etc/network/interfaces file?
[18:41] <lyze> Pici: ok :)
[18:41] <lyze> ablegreen_: because they are two different programs :) thats the same as using two different chat programs
[18:42] <lyze> and both save the files to different directions
[18:43] <ioria> ablegreen_w, because it uses NetworkManager instead
[18:44] <ioria> ablegreen_w, but you can purge NM and configure the files
[18:44] <user9> newbie, doesn't ubuntu set up partitions and swap when installed?
[18:45] <ablegreen_w> ioria: What file does Network Manage modify?
[18:46] <ioria> ablegreen_w, networkmanager.conf ... etc  ithink
[18:47] <ioria> ablegreen_w,  /etc/NetworkManager
[18:47] <ablegreen_w> loria: Thanks.
[18:48] <ioria> ablegreen_w,  np
[18:49] <lyze> user9: yes it does
[18:50] <lyze> user9: at least when you didnt use the "other settings" options
[18:50] <user9> i used the default cuz am new
[18:50] <lyze> user9: then it should have created a swap partition
[18:51] <user9> how come swap is always 0% even when ram is over 90%
[18:51] <lyze> user9: swap will only be activated when you ran out of ram
[18:51] <user9> isn't swap there to ease things up?
[18:52] <user9> ran out completely?
[18:52] <lyze> user9: yeah. when the os needs more ram then you have in reallity
[18:52] <hellyeah> hey
[18:52] <hellyeah> i am using dual screen
[18:52] <lyze> for example the os and programs need 16gb of ram and you have 8gb then it uses all of the 8gb of the ram and 8gb from the swap partition
[18:52] <lyze> ohai hellyeah
[18:52] <hellyeah> but when i do something on my laptop screen it effects the another screen
[18:53] <hellyeah> for example i watched full screen youtube video
[18:53] <user9> 1Gb of ram ubuntu running slow n often freezing
[18:53] <lyze> hellyeah: so it mirrors the same thing?
[18:53] <hellyeah> something i did on laptop screen it effect the another screen
[18:53] <lyze> hellyeah: so do you see the same thing on each monitor?
[18:54] <hellyeah> no
[18:54] <hellyeah> there is no mirror screen here
[18:55] <hellyeah> but for example when i watch full screen youtube video and my mouse curser is in my laptop screen and i clicked alt+f2. it exit full screen mode
[18:56] <hellyeah> i dont know i can tell my problem
[18:56] <lyze> so it exits out of the full screen window whenever you do sth on the other monitor?
[18:57] <hellyeah> yes exactly
[18:57] <lyze> hellyeah: which browser do you use?
[18:57] <hellyeah> firefox
[18:57] <lyze> hellyeah: yeah for me it does this to. use a different one :)
[18:57] <lyze> for a quick solution
[18:57] <lyze> hellyeah: for example w/ chrome it works
[18:58] <hellyeah> let me try
[18:59] <hellyeah> humm
[18:59] <hellyeah> it works with chrome what the hell
[18:59] <lyze> ^^
[18:59] <lyze> well firefox :)
[19:00] <hellyeah> firefox was good in the past
[19:00] <lyze> yeah
[19:00] <hellyeah> why it is bad now :D
[19:00] <lyze> dont ask me :O
[19:01] <alchemistswl> :D
[19:01] <lyze> hellyeah: i guess thats because chrome uses pepper flash player and firefox uses the adobe one. and this one is a old version
[19:02] <lyze> lol that quit message from WML
[19:02] <hellyeah> ic
[19:02] <junior_> hello
[19:02] <lyze> ohai junior_
[19:03] <junior_> so if there is a driver for a wifi card within the kernel and it doesnt autoconfig it for it then how do i go abouts putting it on?
[19:05] <junior_> someone told me the command line for it something about rt2x00 | grep or something like that
[19:06] <OerHeks> junior_, what 'a wificard' ??
[19:06] <lyze> !test
[19:07] <lyze> OerHeks: guess a network card with wifi functionality
[19:07] <junior_> aka wan0
[19:07] <Scunizi> Can I delete everything in /tmp without worry?
[19:07] <OerHeks> lyze, i guess you might be right
[19:08] <lyze> OerHeks: :)
[19:08] <OerHeks> junior_, give more details please, or follow the guides https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[19:08] <junior_> its a rt5592 wificard
[19:08] <junior_> xeon-enouf told me the command line to make it work but i didnt write it down :/
[19:09] <junior_> the drivers for it are rt2x00 in the kernel
[19:09] <OerHeks> junior_, today ? http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/03/11/%23ubuntu.html
[19:13] <junior_> looks like it was yesterday not today
[19:14] <lyze> junior_: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[19:15] <GoodOlFurball> Anyone here?
[19:15] <lyze> ohai GoodOlFurball
[19:15] <GoodOlFurball> Hey, I need help recovering my password rip
[19:15] <OerHeks> !password
[19:15] <tgm4883> Any reason I can't use a variable when using scp in a bash script? This fails on line 9 pretending that ${FILE} (I've also tried $FILE) doesn't exist    http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10581658/
[19:16] <GoodOlFurball> Well, its for GameSurge
[19:16] <lyze> tgm4883: if i can remember correctly my time as a bash programmer. you can use `` for variables?
[19:17] <OerHeks> GoodOlFurball, GameSurge isn't freenode, so get help on their site?
[19:17] <GoodOlFurball> I guess
[19:20] <tgm4883> lyze: actually just fixed it. Super weird, but scp didn't like colons being in the filename from the timestamp
[19:20] <lyze> tgm4883: :)
[19:20] <tgm4883> But didn't throw any errors about that
[19:21] <lyze> thats weird
[19:21] <tgm4883> yea, fixed now though, so my mysql backups are actually somewhere else now :)
[19:21] <tgm4883> lyze: thanks for looking
[19:24] <sakhawat> hi
[19:25] <sakhawat> hihihi
[19:25] <Basketball> what i sht ecommand line code to install tightvnc
[19:26] <OerHeks> !info tightvnc
[19:26] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install tightvncserver
[19:27] <BluesKaj> and tightvncviewer, if needed
[19:29] <junior_> i guess it was actually for the ##linux channel
[19:29] <junior_> so what would be the link for the chatlogs on that one?
[19:30] <OerHeks> junior_,  http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[19:30] <OerHeks> find the channel in that list
[19:30] <OerHeks> * if they log ofcourse
[19:31] <junior_> its not on the list though
[19:31] <junior_> idk
[19:31] <junior_> its ##linux channel
[19:32] <OerHeks> that doouble ## says it is not an official support channel, so enter that channel and ask again?
[19:32] <k1l_> junior_: ask them if they log that channel. we can not speak for other channels
[19:38] <evgenius123> hi all. some problem with Nvidia
[19:39] <evgenius123> I cant change to it as default
[19:40] <evgenius123> cant change driver to proprietary Nvidia from opensource Nouveau
[19:40] <evgenius123> join #ubuntu-ru
[19:53] <syeekick> would installing I3 on a ubuntu server be silly?
[19:54] <compdoc> I3?
[19:54] <syeekick> its a window manager
[19:55] <bprompt> hmm is not Enlightment I assume, as in E3
[19:55] <compdoc> I always install a desktop on ubuntu server
[19:56] <syeekick> compdoc, do you now
[19:56] <syeekick> see im tempted  to do the same
[19:57] <syeekick> i've got it hooked to a display. And im sitting in a tty. So i think it would suit my taste for a gui
[19:58] <compdoc> syeekick, because I use vnc/xrdp to connect, I have to install Mate 1.8.1, because I cant get Unity to run a 2d desktop
[20:00] <Amitari> I have a pretty weird problem here. I've looked for help on #lubuntu, #kubuntu and #kde, but no one could help. However, I was told on #kde that it's likely a distro packaging error, and that I should look for help here.
[20:02] <tgm4883> Amitari: what is the problem?
[20:02] <Amitari> Well, I can't run anything that depends on the kde-runtime anymore.
[20:02] <Amitari> I use LXDE, but I do run some KDE programs.
[20:02] <Amitari> I'll show you what happens when I try to install a KDE program.
[20:03] <bprompt> !paste | Amitari
[20:04] <billy98> hi, i am a newbie, i just managed to load "chubuntu" (chromebook friendly ubuntu) on my chromebook. My question is how do you do the dual boot thing without losing chubuntu. Going into so called developer mode is scary on chromebook, because it wipes every thing.
[20:04] <Amitari> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10581912/
[20:04] <tgm4883> Amitari: what happens if you try to install kde-runtime?
[20:05] <bprompt> Amitari:     tried   -> sudo apt-get -f install;     <-- yet?
[20:05] <Amitari> tgm4883:Not much. http://paste.ubuntu.com/10581919/
[20:05] <bprompt> Amitari:   are you on 14.04, 14.10 or 15.04?
[20:06] <Amitari> bprompt: Yes, I've tried that. And I'm on 14.04
[20:06] <tgm4883> Amitari: what is the output of 'ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/'
[20:06] <billy98> i dont know if tht was addressed to me, but i am going with default ubuntu-desktop
[20:07] <Amitari> tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10581933/
[20:07] <tgm4883> billy98: I didn't research much into it, but my understanding is dual booting those is difficult/impossible
[20:07] <bprompt> Amitari:    ok... how about ->    sudo dpkg --configure -a ;     <---   just in case something was installed but not configured yet
[20:07] <Amitari> I've tried that too.
[20:07] <Amitari> I'll do it again though.
[20:07] <Amitari> No output, as usual...
[20:07] <tgm4883> bprompt: shouldn't the -f install do that though?
[20:08] <Amitari> No, it didn't make any difference.
[20:08] <yohan> hello
[20:08] <bprompt> tgm4883:     often times, yes, sometimes it fails to resolve the issues though
[20:08] <billy98> not really hard, because it was working beautifully on my $150 acer cb3-111 for a month until i managed to screw it up
[20:09] <tgm4883> Amitari: what is the output of "apt-cache policy libkdesu5 libkpty4 kdelibs5-plugins"
[20:09] <tgm4883> billy98: true dual booting, or booting into chrome then starting ubuntu?
[20:09] <Amitari> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10581950/
[20:09] <pranav> HI  i am having some issue with cmake in my ubuntu . error   attr/xattr.h is missing on your system   keeps comming
[20:09] <pranav> any solution
[20:10] <pranav> help
[20:10] <bprompt> Amitari:    ok.... can you paste say what you'd get from   ->    dpkg -s gwenview;
[20:10] <lucido> has anyone tried using multiple nvidia gpu's and displays?
[20:11] <Amitari> (Gwenview is not the only KDE program I use, also, it's not installed anymore since it was removed when KDE-runtime stopped working.)
[20:11] <billy98> chubuntu is the dual boot system, whereas crouton is the one that works in a term window of chrome
[20:11] <tgm4883> Amitari: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:11] <tgm4883> billy98: ah
[20:11] <Amitari> tgm4883: Here's the Gwenview-thing. I'll do the sources too. http://paste.ubuntu.com/10581964/
[20:11] <billy98> i am using chubuntu although crouton sounds good, it i ahvent gotten it to load
[20:12] <billy98> have'nt
[20:12] <tgm4883> bprompt: that was for you ^
[20:12] <Amitari> tgm4883: Here. http://paste.ubuntu.com/10581969/
[20:12] <tgm4883> billy98: IDK, I just loaded mine with straight ubuntu and wiped chrome
[20:12] <bprompt> Amitari:     so.. tried removing gwenview, and then try to install it back in?
[20:12] <bprompt> hehe
[20:13] <Amitari> It can't be reinstalled because kde-runtime doesn't want to get installed.
[20:13] <bprompt> Amitari:    well...you said is not gwenview... nevermind that ... is kde-runtime.. how about installing the package with apt-get?
[20:13] <Amitari> Didn't I already show you that?
[20:13] <tgm4883> bprompt: we already did that ;)
[20:13] <billy98> i like that, but can you do that on any chromebook?
[20:13] <bprompt> shoot....k
[20:13] <tgm4883> bprompt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10581919/
[20:14] <tgm4883> Amitari: sec
[20:15] <bprompt> Amitari:    I assume this was an "upgrade" rather than a "fresh install" of "k"ubuntu ?
[20:15] <Amitari> It's Lubuntu.
[20:15] <Amitari> And it's Lubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[20:16] <tgm4883> bprompt: I think it's because it can't find kdelibs5-plugin which doesn't make sense why it's not available unless I'm looking in the wrong place
[20:17] <tgm4883> billy98: IDK, I started here https://johnlewis.ie/custom-chromebook-firmware/rom-download/
[20:17] <bprompt> Amitari:    sounds like you have the wrong version....or an older version of a kde package, so more or less a kde package with orphan files
[20:17] <Amitari> I should tell you how this happened.
[20:18] <tgm4883> bprompt: well that particular package doesn't appear to be in his repo list, but it does list it on packages.ubuntu.com
[20:18] <bprompt> tgm4883:     sounds like just an old package, seeking for old libs, that the updated files aren't needing or wanting
[20:18] <tgm4883> !info kdelibs5-plugin
[20:18] <Amitari> bprompt: This command broke the kde-runtime. sudo apt-get remove xterm uxterm
[20:18] <Amitari> But xterm and uxterm didn't uninstall...
[20:18] <tgm4883> !info trusty kdelibs5-plugin
[20:18] <Amitari> And I don't understand why it would happen since they don't depend on kde-runtime.
[20:19] <tgm4883> I'm not sure how to have ubottu check older package info
[20:19] <bprompt> Amitari:     well... I'd think they didn't, something else, either before or after you did that, did it
[20:19] <Amitari> No, it broke directly after.
[20:19] <Amitari> And it said something about kde when I tried to remove them.
[20:19] <bprompt> Amitari:   kde doesn't depend on either, so I don't see how
[20:19] <Amitari> I don't see either.
[20:20] <bprompt> hmmm sounds to me that "you think" is what made it so, or you noticed it right after that
[20:20] <tgm4883> bprompt: Amitari a look at /var/log/apt/history.log or term.log should verify that
[20:21] <tgm4883> Amitari: I'm assuming you've done an 'apt-get update' recently?
[20:21] <Amitari> I do that every night.
[20:21] <Amitari> I update, dist-upgrade and autoremove.
[20:22] <tgm4883> so you've done that since it broke?
[20:22] <Amitari> I did it before too.
[20:23] <Amitari> Here's the offending piece from the history.log about xterm. http://paste.ubuntu.com/10582033/
[20:23] <bprompt> hmm I can see the dist-upgrade doing a number on that
[20:23] <Amitari> It has worked for so long without any problems, so I don't think so.
[20:24] <Amitari> And the problem didn't occur in connection with a dist-upgrade.
[20:24] <Amitari> Wait, I think I managed to do something now!
[20:24] <Amitari> Wait!
[20:25] <Amitari> I think I fixed it!
[20:25]  * bprompt rolls drums
[20:25] <Amitari> I traced down the dependencies and installed the root one manually.
[20:25] <Amitari> Yeehaa!
[20:25] <bprompt> howdy pardner
[20:25] <tgm4883> thats not great....
[20:25] <Amitari> I'm installing kde-runtime now!
[20:26] <tgm4883> I mean, it will work, but you won't be able to update. and potentially dist-upgrade will remove it at some point
[20:26] <bprompt> installed the "root" one... not sure what that means
[20:26] <tgm4883> bprompt: my guess is that he installed the -plugins one
[20:27] <tgm4883> Amitari: out of curiosity, did #kubuntu #kde or #lubuntu do ANY troubleshooting?
[20:27] <Amitari> I meant that I traced the dependencies down and installed it manually.
[20:27] <Amitari> Yes, they tried to help me.
[20:27] <Amitari> They asked me to check logs and stuff.
[20:28] <kyle__>  Has anyone here had success with ubuntu on a macbook air, NOT dual booted?
[20:28] <tgm4883> Amitari: the one you installed was kd3libs5-plugin?
[20:29] <Amitari> tgm4883: No, the one mentioned in the log that I found interesting was "libkde3support4", but it couldn't be installed either, I had to go further down before it could be installed.
[20:30] <bprompt> hmmm
[20:31] <tgm4883> arg
[20:31] <tgm4883> I was going down the wrong path because you didn't run the full command I asked :/
[20:31] <tgm4883> At least now I know why it wasn't making any sense
[20:32] <tgm4883> For future reference,  "kdelibs5-plugins" does not equal  "kdelibs5-plugin"
[20:32] <billy98> that looks kind of scary, will it let me revert back to chrome if it doesnt work
[20:32] <tgm4883> billy98: does it say it supports your chromebook?
[20:33] <tgm4883> billy98: I did it on two of my HP14 "Falco" chromebooks here and it worked fine. It makes a backup on a USB key of the original firmware
[20:34] <Amitari> tgm4883: Sorry dude.
[20:34] <billy98> actually it does, i believe i have a silver 13.3 silver toshiba
[20:35] <Amitari> Thanks for the help everybody.
[20:35] <Amitari> I managed to fix it myself, but I probably wouldn't have managed to without your help.
[20:35] <tgm4883> billy98: you have to disable the write protection too. I ended up flashing mine then putting ubuntu on there, then upgrading the SSDs and reinstalling Ubuntu. Running 14.04 and 15.04 on there now
[20:35] <billy98> actually i have a couple
[20:35] <tgm4883> billy98: but this is all OT, so we should move this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:36] <billy98> does that mean i have to open it up?
[20:36] <tgm4883> billy98: yea
[20:36] <billy98> oh, no problem
[20:36] <Tenkawa> greetings all... Anyone running a TW100 (Microcenter winbook) by chance and messed with battery level checking? Thanks
[20:40] <chindy> how/where can i change the refresh rate of one of my screens ?
[20:45] <fedorafan> hey have started a livedvd 14.04 and its running from an usb stick, did backup a file and at the next time it wasnt there anymore, is there a specific folder what wont be deleted?
[20:46] <RudeViper> how do you get rid of the lxde desktop? I have tried remove and purge - but it is still there - I want to get rid of it and use xfce.
[20:46] <Sunstream> okay I have a quesrtion. I am going to install ubuntu, on a system that has Windows 8.1 pro and 10 TP And I know how to shrink space on drives and I have  3 internal and one external drive and I want to make it easy to switch between them. Basically I do not want to lose my copies of
[20:47] <Sunstream> windows. So What do I do?
[20:48] <Sunstream> Rude: there should be a selection for that in the login screen as to what desktop you want to use. like Unity and lxde
[20:55] <gr33n7007h> chindy: check out xrandr
[21:00] <Sampei> Ciao a tutti quelli di #ubuntu !
[21:00] <Sampei> !lista
[21:01] <Sampei> ok
[21:02] <RudeViper> nope - I type in startx and up comes lxde
[21:02]  * Sunstream mutters.
[21:06] <Sunstream> none of you out here can help me? gee what a wonderful help channel
[21:07] <ubuntu-mate> what is you problem?
[21:07] <Blackbolt22> anyone have any idea why copying a file to a usb flash in windows would make the usb read only in ubuntu..
[21:07] <Blackbolt22> i ejected the flash drive properly when i was done.....
 what is filesystem on flash?
[21:08] <pafurijaz> Hi, does anyone have the instructions to install the drivers EMGD made by Karl-Thomas Pietrowski on ubuntu 14.10, are a beginner, and I can't find instructions on how to do. Remember that it is not enough just to add the repository and install.
[21:08] <Blackbolt22> t he drive is formatted fat32...
[21:09] <Blackbolt22> i worked with people here yesterday for same poblem.. so i redid the entire flash and it was fine UNTIL i copied a file using windows.. then now its back to read only for users and writeable for root
[21:10] <Blackbolt22> i already ran dosfsck -a and it said there wa sa dirty bit and fixed it... but still readonly
[21:10] <gr33n7007h> RudeViper: update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
[21:10] <ubuntu-mate> in windows this flash reading and writing normally?
[21:10] <Blackbolt22> yep
[21:10] <Blackbolt22> no problems in windows.. every time i take the drive back to ubuntu and put it in,, it goes crazy.. it also doesn't automount the same anymore either..
[21:11] <Blackbolt22> before the problem existed i could click 3.1GB drive in file manager and it would open.. now it says its already mounted at DEXX-XXXX when i do that
[21:11] <ubuntu-mate> delete all partitions and make new in GParted
[21:11] <Blackbolt22> oh im sure i can fix it like that.. but why is it happening lol
[21:12] <ubuntu-mate> maybe flash is slow dead
[21:12] <Agent_Smith1> I'm looking at an ftp page with many files, is there a way to download all of them from the command lines like wget?
[21:12] <Agent_Smith1> I tried wget <address> but it tries to log in as anonymous and even then i'm not sure if it would be download the actual files or not
[21:21] <bprompt> Agent_Smith_BR:   if it's asking for a login, that means the ftp server needs a login, you could use the "ftp <ftp url here> " from the console, or some other ftp GUI app,   or even the webbrowser, browsers do ftp protocol
[21:23] <tgm4883> Agent_Smith_BR: yea I'd use an FTP client to do that, probably the best way
[21:29] <daniele_> ciao
[21:29] <spaceindaver> Hi all, I installed the latest nvidia drivers (340) and nvidia-prime (for switch graphics cards on an optimus laptop) and now every time I boot unity fails to start after I log in. I can get it to run again if I delete my .config directory. Any idea what could be causing this?
[21:30] <doomlord_1> i've had a similar problem with unity failing after changing nvidia drivers, I have xfce aswell
[21:31] <spaceindaver> doomlord_1, have you had any issues with xfce?
[21:32] <doomlord_1> xfce was working fine
[21:32] <doomlord_1> i was messing with drivers for Folding, needed 343 specifically.
[21:32] <doomlord_1> and since installing that, I haven't been able to use unity. of course I might have damaged something changing drivers back & forth
[21:33] <doomlord_1> spaceindaver actually, let me be more accurate: i'm using xubuntu *on another drive* . i haven't used that unity install since it broke.
[21:35] <spaceindaver> doomlord_1, yeah, I feel like I messed up my configuration somewhere since I was using bumblebee and switched to nvidia-prime last night because I was experiencing crashes when closing applications started with primusrun. Any idea where I could look for errors?
[21:35] <doomlord_1> spaceindaver sorry, i'm clueless. i end up just reinstalling. I wasn't able to fix it so I gave up.
[21:36] <spaceindaver> doomlord_1, okay, thanks anyway :-)
[21:36] <doomlord_1> i've found having a spare drive or partition around is usually helpful..
[21:43] <momomo> how can I adduser without being prompted for telefon number and other stupid shit
[21:44] <ntsp> momomo just press enter without inputting anything
[21:44] <cuddylier> Anyone know a good ipv6 calculator to convert a /51 to /64s?
[21:44] <cuddylier> I haven't found a single one that does that yet.
[21:45] <Agent_Smith_BR> bprompt and tgm4883, I think it was another Agent_Smith asking about ftp clients... I'd go with lftp :)
[21:45] <momomo> ntsp iam creating a scritp ... it's not nice ..
[21:45] <teward> cuddylier: i think you want ##networking ?
[21:45] <pelon> what is the spanish ubuntu support channel?
[21:45] <teward> cuddylier: although you could also do the conversion manually - if you understand where a /64 actually lies in network ranges
[21:45] <teward> !es | pelon
[21:45] <cuddylier> I don't which is the unfortunate thing.
[21:45] <teward> i think
[21:46] <cuddylier> Thanks
[21:46] <teward> cuddylier: time to learn (just saying)
[21:46] <cuddylier> yep, I need to learn a lot more about ipv6
[21:46] <Nedal> Hi, I have a problem to install eclipse , not install it, but to execute it or to open it ... some help please
[21:47] <bprompt> Agent_Smith_BR:    yes, you do that, you need to have an ftp client as well :P, that's what you get for  using a matrix character nick :P
[21:47] <tony1> I am running ubuntu 14.04 with gnome. when using the mail-notification applet I do not get a notification sound. properties/general play sound is checked and if I try to select a different sound file to plat it will not work. sound effects is turned on in the sound applet, does anyone have an idea?
[21:47] <tony1> *play
[21:48] <Giwrgaras> hi, do you know any music player that supports shoutcast radio?
[21:48] <tony1> it has worked in the past but for some reason it has stopped working
[21:50] <bprompt> Giwrgaras:     IIRC shoutcast use a .pls file..... and I think most audio players play that
[21:52] <Giwrgaras> i was looking for a media player that has all the lists like winamp or something like that but yes i think it has such a file ill look at it now
[21:54] <bprompt> Giwrgaras:      hmm I don't use amarok,now and then if ever, use others, but amarok has a bunch of playlists, and does radio and other stuff... not sure on rhythmbox, but I'd suspect rhythmbox does as well,     or "clementiine", clementine has a bunch of providers in it already, like last.fm
[21:57] <qfound> I'm trying to use the command line to move a directory and it's saying "cannot move dir, it's not empty"
[21:58] <qfound> using the mv command
[21:58] <Nedal> Eric^^ would you help me please ?
[21:58] <Nedal> Eric
[21:59] <RudeViper> ugh - nothing is working
[22:02] <Nedal> Hi, I m trying to open eclipse but an error message keeps showing : "invalid configuration location " . Do any one know what that means ?
[22:05] <kober> Hey, I had fedora on my drive an ubuntu wont install now because of the partitions there but it can't remove them either (it used LVM)
[22:05] <kober> here is the fdisk -l: http://paste.ofcode.org/gn7buJfCFtdPmMusHcWiKz
[22:06] <kober> How can I delete those so the ubuntu installer can do its work?
[22:13] <tgm4883> kober: are you able to delete them with fdisk?
[22:24] <usuario> oii
[22:24] <coderman2> how would i go about determining if my network is configured to use the optimal route to a server?
[22:25] <Ben64> coderman2: should happen pretty much automatically
[22:27] <hmp1776> Hi, I wanto to install Ubuntu in UEFI mode, in conjuntion with whole disk encryption. I read elsewhere I must have an efi partition mounted under /boot/efi, and I understand bootloader files are placed in it. Do I have to create a separate /boot as well, since I`d be doing whole disk encryption?
[22:30] <thenerdjones> hi all, so i have been a long time fan of linux, but have had to step away for a few years. i recently built a computer for myself and now im having the worst trouble getting it to dual boot windows 8 and kubuntu. i have a 250ssd with windows, my / and /boot partitions, and then a 500 gig hdd with my /home folder, but when installing i dont even get the chance to put grub on it or anything, and i missing something here?
[22:33] <RudeViper> w00t w00t w00t - finally - got it back to stock server
[22:35] <hmp1776> Hi, I wanto to install Ubuntu in UEFI mode, in conjuntion with whole disk encryption. I read elsewhere I must have an efi partition mounted under /boot/efi, and I understand bootloader files are placed in it. Do I have to create a separate /boot as well, since I`d be doing whole disk encryption?
[22:35] <coderman2> is there a way to run a command, like a wc -l that would keep running every n seconds ?
[22:36] <hmp1776> coderman2:  man watch
[22:37] <ikonia> coderman2: or use a while loop]
[22:37] <cpt_yossarian> coderman2: or cron
[22:37] <ikonia> cron won't work
[22:37] <coderman2> ah thank you, i just want it printed to a screen so i dont have to keep running it
[22:37] <coderman2> watch works
[22:37] <ikonia> as it's not interactive/terminal
[22:38] <cpt_yossarian> ikonia: oh, he didn't specify interactive. might've wanted it logged or something
[22:38] <cpt_yossarian> but never mind then
[22:44] <ni__> Hi. How to change repositoried of choice from country ones to Main? Setting it in "Software and updates" doesn't work.
[22:44] <ikonia> setting it on software settings should work
[22:45] <I-am-Groot> !welcome
[22:45] <k1l_> ni__: what means: doesnt work? what did you set there?
[22:45] <ni__> k1l_: With reloading data is being received from country repo.
[22:45] <ikonia> ni__: how do you know
[22:45] <ikonia> how are you checking this
[22:46] <ni__> ikonia: Under progress bar i see country address
[22:46] <ikonia> ni__: what is the name of the repo you have set it to in software settings
[22:46] <ghostmediapro> help ubuntu 14.04 sendmail config
[22:47] <ikonia> ghostmediapro: ask a question then
[22:47] <ni__> ikonia: I changed from Poland do Main.
[22:47] <ikonia> ghostmediapro: ubuntu doens't use sendmail by default
[22:47] <ikonia> ni__: main is a repo that will redirect to your country one via geo dns I think
[22:47] <ikonia> I could be wrong on that though
[22:47] <k1l_> ni__: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" in a pastebin please
[22:48] <RudeViper> ok before I go and muck this up like before - does anyone know how I can PREVENT xfce from starting at boot....99.99999% of the time I only want the machine to run in cli only - so that when I do want or need the gui I have to call it manually....I have run google searches on this several times but every time I have installed any gui it winds up starting at boot and I don't want that.
[22:48] <ikonia> RudeViper: disable the login manager
[22:48] <ikonia> that way X won't launch
[22:48] <sudormrf> RudeViper, you would need to modify the xinitrc
[22:49] <sudormrf> IIRC
[22:49] <hmp1776> Hi, I wanto to install Ubuntu in UEFI mode, in conjuntion with whole disk encryption. I read elsewhere I must have an efi partition mounted under /boot/efi, and I understand bootloader files are placed in it. Do I have to create a separate /boot as well, since I`d be doing whole disk encryption?
[22:49] <ikonia> xinitrc is read after X has started
[22:49] <ikonia> you want X to not start
[22:49] <sudormrf> ikonia, which file am I thinking of?
[22:49] <sudormrf> not asking that to be smart
[22:49] <ikonia> I have no idea what you're thinking of
[22:49] <sudormrf> hmm
[22:49] <daftykins> hmp1776: checked the uefi help page?
[22:50] <RudeViper> sudormrf - ok which file?
[22:50] <sudormrf> let me see if I can dig up what I am thinking of.  either way, looks like I am wrong
[22:50] <daftykins> not sure if it covers encryption, mind you
[22:50] <hmp1776> daftykins: Yes, but it ain't very enlightening on this particular subject
[22:50] <ni__> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10582623/
[22:51] <daftykins> hmp1776: i would just try it without a separate /boot, since the EFI images are in the EFI volume it shouldn't matter
[22:51] <daftykins> actually, depends if it can decrypt before it gets to the kernel
[22:51] <sudormrf> RudeViper, how I accomplished it was modifying grub and modifying the xinitrc
[22:51] <k1l_> ni__: right, that is actual the polish mirror. but since you are using 15.04 that could be a bug. since its still beta better file the bug
[22:51] <sudormrf> this was recently on a vm
[22:51] <RudeViper> ikonia - please explain that - I haven't heard that one
[22:52] <hmp1776> daftykins: as far as I understand, it should, but since the efi partition is mounted under /boot/efi, I'm uncertain
[22:52] <sudormrf> but ikonia's way looks quicker
[22:52] <ni__> k1l_: Where?
[22:52] <k1l_> !bug | ni__
[22:52] <k1l_> ni__: and for further beta support better ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:54] <sudormrf> RudeViper, ikonia what I did was this: sudo nano /etc/default/grub then changed GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" to read "text" instead of quiet splash.  then sudo update-grub
[22:54] <RudeViper> OMG - I read those instructions and they weren't that clear - it's really that simple?
[22:54] <ni__> k1l_: But what should I change in this file to get updates from Main?
[22:55] <k1l_> ni__: remove the pl.
[22:55] <sudormrf> RudeViper, that is what I did.  ikonia my notes point to that disabling lightdm.
[22:56] <ni__> k1l_: Thanks
[22:56] <RudeViper> yeah I tried all those other things and failed - even did the modify grub but the way it was written led me to make it "quiet splash text" - no wonder it didn't work
[22:56]  * RudeViper drops to his knees and prostrates himself at ikonia's feet
[22:56] <Sunstream> There is the option of windows 8 bootloader however i hope not to lose 10
[22:56] <teward> CIDR blocks
[22:56] <teward> opsies
[22:56] <teward> sorry
[22:56] <sudormrf> RudeViper, what?
[22:56] <sudormrf> ahah
[22:57] <Sunstream> BTW you wanna know how long it takes my 2007 era computer to load ubuntu after selecting what to boot to login screen? a few seconds wow SSDs are fast with this
[22:57] <RudeViper> yeha -it didn't make sense to me either sudormrf - but that is what the instructions looke like - lol so I did it....Now I know why it failed - lol
[22:58] <Sunstream> Will Ubuntu cme back every reboot?
[22:58] <RudeViper> The documentation on some of this stuff was most definately not written for the linux impaired lol
[22:58] <Sunstream> Oops wrong channel
[22:58] <sudormrf> RudeViper, so did it work?
[23:00] <RudeViper> ok while I am in grub - I see a spot to set default resolution - is it SAFE to alter that here ikonia?
[23:05] <sudormrf> RudeViper, what is GRUB_GFXMODE set to now?
[23:06] <sudormrf> RudeViper, also, what are you trying to set it to?
[23:07] <sudormrf> RudeViper, you can go about this two ways.  1, check the supported resolutions, or 2, set it to auto.
[23:07] <RudeViper> I changed it - it was 640x480
[23:07] <RudeViper> I want it to be 1024x768
[23:07] <jordan4ibanez> The package libglfw-dev wants to remove ubuntu-desktop, x11 and a whole bunch of other apps
[23:08] <jordan4ibanez> Any way around this?
[23:08] <sudormrf> RudeViper, you should check to be certain that is a supported resolution before changing it and updating grub
[23:08] <RudeViper> sudormrf - I haven't pulled out of the file yet
[23:08] <RudeViper> it supported by monitor and card - running nvidia 210 card
[23:09] <sudormrf> RudeViper, it probably is, but just to be certain.  reboot and hold down shift to make sure your grub is displayed.  when you see grub, press c to drop to a console.  at the console type vbeinfo and make sure the resolution you want is on the list.
[23:09] <RudeViper> better change it back before it messes something up and I have to reinstall AGAIN...lol
[23:09] <sudormrf> RudeViper, if it is, go back into the /etc/default/grub file, change the resolution, save the file then sudo update-grub
[23:10] <sudormrf> RudeViper, you shouldn't have to reinstall if your grub gets borked.  you can repair it.
[23:11] <RudeViper> sudormrf I reset it to default for now - I just remembered this thing is going to be usig the stock drivers at first - till I change them
[23:12] <RudeViper> ok here goes - rebooting server
[23:13] <sudormrf> RudeViper, so did you set it to text only, back out of the file (saving the changes), update grub then go back in to the file looking at the resolution?  or did you revert the resolution change, keep the text mode change and then update grub?
[23:15] <woddy> hello folks
[23:16] <RudeViper> awwwwe crap - I still have the stupid lxde desktop - ugh - I deleted it but it's still locked in somehow
[23:17] <RudeViper> the heck with it - the software center is there so fine
[23:17] <woddy> I have run chkrootkit and rkhunter, what channel to go to ask people to help me in interpreting the results?
[23:17] <woddy> (ubuntu user)
[23:19] <woddy> I think I discovered a new law: in freenode the chance of getting help is inversely proportional to the number of users in there
[23:19] <woddy> xD
[23:19] <woddy> (for a given channel)
[23:20] <SchrodingersScat> !patience | woddy, just have to hope someone is familiar with those, I am not, all I can do is tell you this.
[23:21] <sudormrf> RudeViper, do this cat /etc/default/grub | pastebinit
[23:21] <sudormrf> RudeViper, and post the link
[23:23] <OerHeks> woddy, you could use paste.ubuntu.com to share the results
[23:23] <user> hi
[23:23] <OerHeks> woddy, /var/log/rkhunter.log
[23:23] <user> habe großes Problem
[23:23] <OerHeks> !de
[23:23] <sudormrf> !de | user
[23:24] <user> sorry
[23:25] <woddy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10582752/ <- rkhunter.log   http://paste.ubuntu.com/10582753/ <- chkrootkit -q
[23:25] <woddy> @ OerHeks
[23:25] <caspar_> ahoy
[23:27] <SchrodingersScat> looks clear to me (?)
[23:27] <woddy> in rkhunter.log I had some warnings
[23:28] <woddy> SchrodingersScat: looked into chkrootkit too?
[23:32] <OerHeks> woddy, line 278 gives an error fixed in 2013, rkhunter is old news
[23:33] <woddy> I just installed it
[23:33] <woddy> apt-get install rkhunter, then went for the rkhunter --update
[23:33] <woddy> internally
[23:34] <k1l> rkhunter is not that sort of virus scan like you do on windows
[23:34] <woddy> Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[23:34] <woddy> k1l: well yeh, thats why I ask
[23:34] <woddy> about those results
[23:35] <woddy> sudo cat /dev/.udev/rules.d/root.rules
[23:35] <woddy> SUBSYSTEM=="block", ENV{MAJOR}=="8", ENV{MINOR}=="1", SYMLINK+="root"
[23:35] <woddy> nothing special there, right?
[23:35] <Ben64> basically, you have to run rkhunter often and compare one log to the next
[23:35] <woddy> yeah great
[23:35] <woddy> means basically I can kill my whole system
[23:35] <woddy> right?
[23:36] <Ben64> what?
[23:36] <woddy> since I will never find anything that is older
[23:36] <woddy> than today, when I first installed
[23:36] <k1l> woddy: that explaines it: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/101017/rkhunter-warns-me-about-root-rules
[23:36] <woddy> so I can't know if the system is already compromised
[23:36] <Ben64> you can never really know if a system is ever compromised
[23:36] <OerHeks> no, as administrator you need to search any warning, if it applies to you.
[23:36] <woddy> Ben64: well, but I would like to at least know about the common stuff
[23:37] <OerHeks> and scan well
[23:37] <k1l> woddy: well, that is why i said its not a "one click" virus scan liek that on windows (which doesnt help anyway)
[23:37] <woddy> OerHeks: well but that would mean I have to actually understand the system
[23:37] <woddy> that sounds like ... work
[23:37] <k1l> woddy: yes, its a lot of work
[23:38] <SchrodingersScat> you shouldn't trust a system you think has been compromised, as well
[23:38] <woddy> well, I'm into control systems, I like using that operating system, not spending dozens of hours on studying it
[23:38] <woddy> like... not everyone is an OS nerd
[23:38] <woddy> or security nerd
[23:38] <woddy> you know..
[23:38] <Ben64> i don't see how that is relevant
[23:38] <k1l> woddy: i dont get what the issue is right here?
[23:38] <woddy> well the point is, I wonder if I should switch to windows now
[23:38] <woddy> I used linux for 8 years so far
[23:38] <woddy> heh
[23:39] <k1l> woddy: stop.
[23:39] <woddy> k1l: well obviously there is no serious way to determine
[23:39] <woddy> wether I have the normal known exploits/rootkits on there
[23:39] <Ben64> because windows is better at security? whatever elevates your dinghy man
[23:39] <woddy> given that I lack the qualification
[23:39] <woddy> so it would all be just a gamble
[23:39] <k1l> woddy: dont blackmail in here or show that attitude. that is not motivating others to help you
[23:39] <woddy> k1l: yeah right..
[23:40] <l7CDmp> does anyone here know how I could set up an ICC color profile to set all colors to one bit lighter than otherwise? basically any hex color that ends in 0 should be converted to a hex color that ends in 1
[23:40] <k1l> woddy: so what is the exact issue right now?
[23:40] <woddy> the point is you tell me that a) there is no way to know if my system is compromised, and b) that I should not trust a system I think may be compromised
[23:40] <woddy> which leads to the conclusion that I should not trust any system
[23:40] <Ben64> not a bad conclusion
[23:40] <l7CDmp> woddy: set up something like rkhunter when you install a system, and you have that much assurance, etc, security comes only in layers
[23:41] <ikonia> there is no value in setting up rkhunter
[23:41] <ikonia> it's just a sig checker
[23:41] <ikonia> and on a system that is possibly compromised there is even less value
[23:41] <l7CDmp> there isn't unlimited value in it, but there's nonzero value
[23:41] <l7CDmp> yes hence why I said "when you install a system"
[23:41] <RudeViper> sudormrf, ikonia - still here and it is still working - thanks for your help and input - trying to get everything set up now - again - THANKS!
[23:41] <l7CDmp> so does anyone know where I could ask color profile questions?
[23:42] <jgorak> Hi all.  I wanted to play with maas, so I was going to spin up server 14.04 and try the option shown at https://maas.ubuntu.com/docs/_images/install_02.png .  It boots me into a textmode installer and I never see something like the framebuffer in that picture.  Can I get to that option in textmode? It's not in the install list
[23:42] <woddy> wlan0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/wpa_supplicant[931], /sbin/dhclient[29959])
[23:42] <woddy> what would that mean
[23:42] <Ben64> l7CDmp: you can adjust that if you have an nvidia card, i'm sure theres ways on other gpus but i don't know them
[23:42] <ikonia> woddy: in what respect ?
[23:42] <l7CDmp> Ben64: what's the setting called for nvidia cards? it'd probably be a good place to look
[23:43] <woddy> ikonia: a line in chkrootkit -q
[23:43] <Ben64> l7CDmp: it's in nvidia-settings, theres color adjustment
[23:43] <ikonia> woddy: there is no value in that
[23:43] <ikonia> it's a false positive
[23:43] <l7CDmp> Ben64: can I install nvidia-settings and look at it on a non-nvidia card?
[23:43] <woddy> ok
[23:43] <woddy> ok
[23:43] <Ben64> l7CDmp: nope
[23:44] <woddy> ikonia: when you do the ubuntu security updates
[23:44] <l7CDmp> Ben64: Would it be possible for you to tell me the exact setting or setting screen then so I can google it?
[23:44] <woddy> how do you know those security updates themselves aren't compromised?
[23:44] <Ben64> l7CDmp: if you don't have nvidia its pointless
[23:44] <ikonia> woddy: because they come from gpg signed repos
[23:44] <k1l> woddy: again: that is a ridicolous false positive. but since you dont want to learn anything i am not going to explain.
[23:44] <ikonia> and are gpg signed packages
[23:44] <l7CDmp> Ben64: I just want to know the setting name so I can see if anything exists for ATI
[23:44] <Ben64> color correction
[23:44] <l7CDmp> woddy: the updates are checksummed and the checksum file is signed with a GPG key
[23:44] <l7CDmp> Ben64: thank you
[23:45] <woddy> so the real question is wether my first installation download was compromised
[23:46] <woddy> if I get you right l7CDmp
[23:46] <l7CDmp> woddy: well, you could also have added a malicious actor's key since install
[23:46] <l7CDmp> woddy: or the program that checks the signature could be compromised
[23:46] <woddy> ah ok
[23:46] <Ben64> woddy: unlikely, but go ahead and check your md5sum of the iso you used
[23:46] <Sunstream> K-lined? I havnt seen anyone K-Lined in a long time and to see 4 in a row....... what...
[23:46] <l7CDmp> woddy: there are really an infinity of things that can go wrong
[23:46] <blood|work> I am unable to start my server normally. Logs show : init: plymouth-splash main process(431) terminated with status 2. plymouth main process (50) killed by SEGV signal. How can I fix this?
[23:46] <l7CDmp> woddy: but in the typical case, that is how you assure the integrity of the updates
[23:46] <Sunstream> Oh is there any IDENT software that can help XCHAT send my ident to servers so I can connect faster
[23:47] <woddy> l7CDmp: how does ubuntu ensure that my system isn't compromised trough Intel AMT, or manipulated HDD firmware?
[23:47] <k1l> woddy: it cant
[23:47] <l7CDmp> woddy: there's no way to ensure that, since those threat models are outside the operating system's control
[23:48] <Ben64> woddy: you're getting quite tinfoil-hattish now
[23:48] <Sunstream> Oh is there any tweaks  I can use to make my SSD get into UBUTU faster
[23:48] <woddy> Ben64: oh the manipulated hdd firmware
[23:48] <woddy> is proven
[23:48] <rbrown_> I'm trying to kickstart my server but it keeps prompting me that multiple interfaces exist how can I get around this ?
[23:48] <ikonia> woddy: this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[23:48] <ikonia> woddy: ubuntu cannot sanity external device firmware
[23:48]  * neo_punk is away: Я занят
[23:48] <ikonia> neo_punk: please disable that
[23:49] <woddy> ikonia: so we are all screwed
[23:49] <ikonia> woddy: no
[23:49] <k1l> woddy: i think that talk better suits into #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:49] <ikonia> woddy: you're being unrealisitic
[23:49] <woddy> ok
[23:50] <woddy> ikonia: just one thing: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/02/17/kaspersky_labs_equation_group/ "The US National Security Agency (NSA) infected hard disk firmware with spyware in a campaign valued as highly as Stuxnet that dates back at least 14 years and possibly up to two decades – all according to an analysis by Kaspersky Labs."
[23:50] <ikonia> woddy: that is a pointless thing
[23:50] <l7CDmp> woddy: if you're targeted by the NSA nothing any operating system does can help you
[23:50] <woddy> l7CDmp: but those are the enemy, they are the ones doing economic espionage etc.
[23:50] <woddy> for USA, against the rest of the planet
[23:50] <ikonia> woddy: stop now
[23:50] <woddy> ok
[23:51] <ikonia> woddy: this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[23:51] <woddy> ok
[23:51] <Sunstream> ...
[23:52] <l7CDmp> nice and idle, just how I like my IRC
[23:52] <ghostmediapro> any help sendmail errors on ubuntu http://paste.ubuntu.com/10582823/
[23:52] <l7CDmp> does anyone know a good reference for ICC profiles/color management in general?
[23:53] <ikonia> ghostmediapro: ubuntu doesn't use sendmail by default
[23:53] <l7CDmp> ghostmediapro: why is your init.d script calling make!?
[23:53] <ikonia> ghostmediapro: why are you changing the MTA to one you don't know how to configure ?
[23:53] <ikonia> l7CDmp: because sendmail depends on m4 configs
[23:54] <ghostmediapro> ikonia sendmail to use gmail
[23:54] <l7CDmp> wow, is that sort of hostility really in the ubuntu spirit?
[23:54] <ikonia> ghostmediapro: you don't need sendmail to use gmail
[23:54] <ghostmediapro> but in the proccess of config, i get this error on restart
[23:54] <ikonia> the default in ubuntu (postfix) can engage with gmail just fine
[23:54] <ikonia> l7CDmp: why hostility ?
[23:54] <l7CDmp> "why are you changing the MTA to one you don't know how to configure"
[23:54] <ikonia> l7CDmp: it's a valid question
[23:55] <l7CDmp> sometimes people use software that isn't the default...
[23:55] <ghostmediapro> side loaded app, that is configured to use sendmail rather rhan postfix
[23:55] <ikonia> l7CDmp: right, and I'm asking "why"
[23:55] <ikonia> ghostmediapro: side loaded ??
[23:56] <ghostmediapro> install on ubuntu but not essentailly apart of
[23:56] <ghostmediapro> just need help with trouble shooting ssendmail on the ubuntu plateform
[23:56] <ikonia> ghostmediapro: so postfix normally has a sendmail binary (that is not really sendmail but a trick for apps like this)
[23:56] <ghostmediapro> pbxinaflash
[23:56] <ikonia> ghostmediapro: can you show me the output of uname -a please
[23:57] <ghostmediapro> use sendmail, by default which is created by someone else, it is config to use sendmail
[23:57] <ikonia> ghostmediapro: no, it's not
[23:57] <ikonia> ghostmediapro: as I've said there is normally a link to pretend to be sendmail from mtas
[23:57] <ghostmediapro> ikonia: i'm ears?
[23:58] <ghostmediapro> ikonia: do i apt-get remove senmail, and apt-get install psotfix?
[23:59] <ikonia> ghostmediapro: I Would advise you to use the standard MTA if possible
[23:59] <ghostmediapro> help!!!!!!!
[23:59] <ikonia> please stop that
[23:59] <ikonia> you are getting help
[23:59] <ikonia> you don't need to just keep saying that
[23:59] <ghostmediapro> point me in the direction of sendmail or postfix help
[23:59] <ikonia> in the direction ?
[23:59] <ghostmediapro> new to ubuntu mta
[23:59] <daftykins> !alis | ghostmediapro find a channel using this


[11:56] <s0cks> Kinda sad, but works for me.
[11:57] <ramzez> so should i just get ndiswrapper?
[11:58] <ramzez> like start with step4 and ignore first 3?
[11:58] <mass> if I want my home directory to be served off another volume, but it isn't the root of the volume, how is that normally set up?
[11:58] <mass> symbolic link, or bind?


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[03:31] <neonixcoder> Hi team,
[03:32] <neonixcoder> I am upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04.. but middle of installation after kernel upgrade, my system is rebooting with out any warning.. And once its boots I am getting kernel panic..
[03:34] <neonixcoder> This is happening on already existing system. I tried on a new machine with same set of hardware and configs. At this time, the upgrade went smoothly.
[03:34] <neonixcoder> Any suggestion where should I check so that it will not reboot after kernel upgrade?
[04:42] <sarnold> neonixcoder: were you able to capture any kernel messages?
[04:44] <neonixcoder> yes sarnold..
[04:44] <neonixcoder> one min, let me write it down here..
[04:44] <sarnold> neonixcoder: can you pastebin them somehwere?
[04:44] <neonixcoder> sure..
[04:44] <neonixcoder> my bad..
[04:44] <neonixcoder> will do that
[04:45] <neonixcoder> Its a single line "kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)"
[04:46] <neonixcoder> sarnold: I want to avoid it instead of correct it. Right now I am testing it in  lab.
[04:47] <neonixcoder> so in production, upgrade should go smooth
[04:47] <sarnold> neonixcoder: hmm, do you need any 'funny' modules to mount your root filesystem on your hardware?
[04:48] <neonixcoder> sarnold: I did not get you..
[04:48] <patdk-lap> do you have some kind of raid card, flash thing
[04:49] <patdk-lap> using something other than onboard sata ports
[04:57] <neonixcoder> pdtdk-lap:No such cards, but I install it on a small cf card
[04:57] <neonixcoder> which is 2gb
[04:58] <sarnold> hmm, reminds me of my pandaboard es; after roughly a year it started crashing under heavy io load and then eventually started crashing rouhgly once a day..
[04:59] <sarnold> replacing the sd card was sufficient to fix it
[04:59] <sarnold> neonixcoder: can you try something like badblocks on the card on a different system?
[05:07] <neonixcoder> sarnold:the funny part is.. I am able to upgrade on the same machine with same CF card which is a fresh install from 10.04 to 12.04
[05:07] <neonixcoder> sarnold:So I thought some where there could be a setting my old image where it reboots once kernel is update(I guess)
[05:09] <sarnold> neonixcoder: none that I can recall :/
[05:10] <neonixcoder> sarnold:hmm yes.. bit strange.. I will try to check if old image and fresh install have same settings in /etc/apt folder
[05:19] <thomedy> okay.. sudo apt-get install php5-fpm is not processing the triggeres
[05:20] <thomedy> i can man it but i cant finish the apt-get
[05:38] <neonixcoder> sarnold: I just wondering how frequent linux write data to disk?
[05:39] <sarnold> neonixcoder: that's quite complicated :) it'll write immediately when programs issue fsync or fdatasync calls; apt/dpkg do this extensively
[05:40] <neonixcoder> immediately means less then a second?
[05:40] <neonixcoder> bcz I just want to check logs which are written when upgrading my OS which is resulting me in kernel panic..
[05:40] <sarnold> yeah; it'l suspend the program execution until the writes have finished
[05:41] <sarnold> neonixcoder: the fatrace program can do that
[05:41] <sarnold> for an upgrade it'll be an amazing amount of output..
[05:42] <neonixcoder> let me check that..
[07:36] <murcha> when i run cron to mv files to mounted backup partition i get error: sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[07:37] <sarnold> why are you tryiung to use sudo in cron? that won't go..
[07:41] <murcha> sarnold: thanks, i  tried to mv files to backup partition but it required authentication.
[08:23] <fcefan> murcha: See first fix here https://www.shell-tips.com/2014/09/08/sudo-sorry-you-must-have-a-tty-to-run-sudo/
[08:24] <murcha> fcefan: thanks
[09:10] <DenBeiren> hi all,.. i'm trying to set up an rsync, but the transferspeed is way too slow
[09:10] <DenBeiren> i'm getting 10MB between 2 dualGB nic machines
[09:10] <DenBeiren> configged with LAG on the GB switch
[09:11] <DenBeiren> the copy is local, so encryption is not really needed
[09:11] <DenBeiren> any ideas?
[09:16] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:19] <DenBeiren> hey lordie
[09:19] <lordievader> Hey DenBeiren, how are you?
[09:19] <DenBeiren> gd gd
[09:19] <DenBeiren> maybe you can help out with my "issue" here above?
[09:21] <lordievader> Is that ram -> ram?
[09:27] <DenBeiren> ?
[09:29] <lordievader> !pm | DenBeiren
[09:29] <DenBeiren> i don't know if everybody is going to benefit from dutch ;-)
[09:30] <lordievader> Ask the question in english.
[09:31] <DenBeiren> i did :-)
[09:31] <DenBeiren> just before you entered ;-)
[09:31] <lordievader> DenBeiren: Yes, and I asked: Is that ram -> ram?
[09:37] <DenBeiren> it's a synonogy share => a temp ubuntu share (to reconfig the syno)
[09:38] <lordievader> What I am trying to rule out is external factors like disks.
[09:38] <DenBeiren> when copying from a windows client to the temp samba i get 66 - 80 MB
[09:39] <DenBeiren> the disks in the syno are brandnew
[09:41] <murcha> is there any service to restart to effect changes in visudo
[09:43] <lordievader> DenBeiren: Do you have root access or ssh access on the synology?
[09:43] <DenBeiren> yes, the rsync is running,.. only it's capping @ 10/11 MB
[09:44] <DenBeiren> evy now and again i see it peaking to 24 - 66 - 30
[09:44] <DenBeiren> but stabilizing @ 10
[09:45] <DenBeiren> command used is the following:
[09:45] <lordievader> I'll take that as a yes I have ssh access. Run a dd over ssh towards the synology's /dev/null
[09:45] <DenBeiren> sudo rsync -avhzP admin@<IP_ADDRESS>:/volume1/Data /samba/allaccess/
[09:47] <lordievader> murcha: The sudoers file is read everytime when sudo is run, for as far as I know.
[09:48] <DenBeiren> lordievader: just got a call,.. need to go,.. get back to this later,.. TIA
[09:49] <murcha> lordievader: when i change settings in visudo to allow a user and a script to run w/o sudo from cron, i get the same permission denied error
[09:50] <lordievader> Without sudo?
[09:50] <lordievader> You mean you allow it without a password? You still need sudo though.
[09:52] <murcha> yes when i run a script from cron automatically i get this error: sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[09:52] <lordievader> Could you pastebin your sudoers file?
[09:52] <murcha> sure
[09:54] <murcha> lordievader: here is the configuration: http://pastebin.com/0BPJ0xrC
[09:56] <lordievader> It's about the classi-backup script?
[09:58] <murcha> lordievader: yes
[09:58] <jerto> Murcha, are you trying to invoke sudo in a cron ?
[09:59] <lordievader> murcha: As what user are you invoking the script?
[09:59] <murcha> jerto: i want to run automatically the script through cron....but i get permission denied error
[10:00] <murcha> lordievader: office
[10:00] <lordievader> Why not as root?
[10:00] <lordievader> I suppose that the user office is in the group office?
[10:00] <murcha> yes
[10:04] <murcha> lordievader: i tried root user, again i get permisison denied error
[10:05] <lordievader> Now that is interesting. Do you get the same when you run the script as root?
[10:06] <murcha> lordievader: no not at all, only i get when i try the script from cron. from terminal it is all ok.
[10:07] <lordievader> Hmm, would it be environment variables. Could you pastebin the script?
[10:12] <murcha> lordievader: here is the script a simple mv: http://pastebin.com/ShAdLwhi
[10:15] <lordievader> You are not specifiying an interpreter?
[10:17] <murcha> lordievader: oh it is here at the top #!/bin/bash
[10:18] <lordievader> Ah, ok. Does it have execute permissions?
[10:18] <murcha> lordievader: yes 777
[10:22] <lordievader> Hmm, odd.
[10:22] <lordievader> Do you have another user in the group office?
[10:24] <murcha> lordievader: i should check
[10:25] <murcha> lordievader: yea there is www-data
[10:25] <lordievader> Can that user run the script correctly?
[10:30] <murcha> no it does not run the script
[10:31] <murcha> lordievader: ^
[10:35] <lordievader> Does not run the script, how?
[10:37] <murcha> i tried to run the script after login www-data user, but i get not found error
[10:39] <lordievader> The path to the script is correct? Or is mv saying that.
[10:40] <murcha> lordievader: the path is correct
[10:43] <murcha> lordievader: i tried to run the script like sudo bash path/to/script it is running fine
[10:43] <murcha> ^ from www-data user
[10:44] <lordievader> Okay, so that works...
[10:56] <murcha> lordievader: thanks! finally worked after creating the script under root user.
[10:56] <lordievader> Still odd...
[10:57] <lordievader> But okay, glad it works :)
[10:57] <murcha> :)
[12:13] <_ruben> is there a way to have grub operational through both console and serial?
[13:30] <jamespage> mfisch, hey - so https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openvswitch/+bug/1470120 covers the 2.3.2 update for ovs
[13:30] <jamespage> took me a while to get it into wily due to some changes in behaviour in our testing; just working the SRU cogs now
[13:31] <jamespage> med_, ^^
[13:35] <med_> mornign
[13:35] <med_> thanks jamespage
[13:37] <jamespage> med_, np - sorry for the lag
[14:36] <Kully3xf> how much ram does tar use
[14:36] <Kully3xf> is it more cpu or ram
[14:36] <Kully3xf> can I throttle it's ram usage?
[14:38] <patdk-wk> can't imagine it uses either
[14:38] <patdk-wk> unless you enable some kind of compression option
[14:40] <Kully3xf> tar -zxcf so gunzip
[14:42] <Kully3xf> -zcvf
[14:42] <Kully3xf> friday
[14:44] <Kully3xf> in case anyone was wondering it is very low memory and cpu intesive.
[14:50] <pmatulis> use a monitoring utility to answer your question
[14:51] <pmatulis> Kully3xf: ↑
[14:51] <Kully3xf> I figured it out - am not looking to figure it out on the fly, wanted to know before I ran the command
[14:52] <Kully3xf> in case anyone wants to know it's cpu instensive and no ram
[15:08] <dannf> rbasak, mdeslaur : fyi, arges is approving the msyql updates now
[15:11] <teward> with regards to Apache server, when I configure SSL, does the certificate file need to contain the entire chain or just the site's certificate?  And is there a way to serve the CA chain (intermediate cert, root CA cert) without putting it in the main certificate file?
[15:21] <teward> probably a better question: whatever I put in SSLCertificateFile, does that need the entire CA trust chain if I also provide SSLCertificateChainFile in the configuration for a vhost?
[15:28] <rbasak> IIRC it is the entire trust chain.
[15:29] <rbasak> I don't know if there's an alternate way to configure it.
[15:29] <rbasak> No idea about SSLCertificateChainFile
[15:29] <rbasak> Use "openssl s_client" with -verify and experiment ;)
[15:32] <teward> well i think http://serverfault.com/questions/382633/difference-between-sslcertificatefile-and-sslcertificatechainfile answered it
[15:32] <teward> that'll be the first test
[16:05] <TJ-> teward: This is how I configure domains, using symlinks to virtual-host home directories in order to make switching keys+certs not require any changes to the apache config.  https://iam.tj/projects/misc/apache-ssl-config.txt
[16:40] <teward> TJ-: erm... that's not what i was after, but OK
[16:40] <teward> i needed to know what specifically was in the CertificateFile file
[16:40] <teward> I.E.
[16:40] <teward> does it need just the site cert or the entire chain
[16:40] <teward> and i got that answer
[16:41] <teward> in that server there's only one site anyways, so changing the config wouldn't affect others.
[16:47] <TJ-> teward: I thought the example specifies that. The SSLCertificateFile contains *just* the site's certificate, any intermediate Certificates are in the SSLCertificateChainFile, and the root CA can be in that file, or in the usual /etc/ssl/certs/
[16:48] <teward> i couldn't glean that from your example, sorry.
[16:48] <teward> (I'm tired :/)
[16:49] <TJ-> teward:  Hmmm, maybe I'm too familiar with it.  "ssl/certs/iam.tj.pem -> iam.tj.Wosign.solo.2018-06-29.pem"  "solo" is a bare cert with no supporting intermediates
[16:49] <teward> ahh, OK.
[16:49] <teward> TJ-: i come from nginx, not apache, and workplace uses apache on some things :/
[16:49] <teward> kinda inherited things on some of these services >.<
[16:50] <TJ-> teward: I used to have the 'chain' in the domain's /home/ but that was silly since many domains may use the same CA, so the intermediates are now always in  "/etc/ssl/certs/<CA-name>-chain.pem" which is referenced from the SSLCertificateChainFile
[16:51] <TJ-> teward: The remainder of the layout is so I can easily replace certs/keys without making changes to the server config, so it's a non-root operation
[21:55] <IamEld3st> im installing ubuntu 14.04.2 server distribution but i cant get past the iscsi part i dont understand it i have unallocated disk in system and cant select it?
[21:55] <IamEld3st> i found out that i shoud disable raid setting in bios
[21:58] <patdk-lap> what does raid setting have to do with iscsi?
[22:00] <IamEld3st> i dont know i just cant get thour the installation i have one sata drive and while instaling configure iscsi voluems and i cant get past it
[22:00] <IamEld3st> i never seen it before
[22:00] <patdk-lap> well, a sata disk isn't iscsi
[22:00] <patdk-lap> so going into iscsi isn't going to help
[22:00] <IamEld3st> i know
[22:00] <patdk-lap> what options are on your bios?
[22:00] <patdk-lap> first one you should pick is AHCI
[22:00] <patdk-lap> if there is no option, then select RAID
[22:00] <IamEld3st> ok it was set to ide
[22:01] <IamEld3st> should i save it and try it?
[22:01] <patdk-lap> you can attempt ide also
[22:01] <patdk-lap> but I wouldn't want to use it, unless you have to
[22:01] <IamEld3st> ide went to that iscsi thing
[22:01] <IamEld3st> ok i will try to install it
[22:02] <patdk-lap> how?
[22:02] <patdk-lap> it can't see your disk
[22:02] <IamEld3st> yeah but in bios it shows up
[22:02] <patdk-lap> so?
[22:02] <patdk-lap> set it back to AHCI or RAID
[22:02] <IamEld3st> ok
[22:02] <patdk-lap> and figure out why ubuntu can't see it
[22:02] <patdk-lap> something is wrong
[22:03] <IamEld3st> i booted ubuntu desktop and it sees it...
[22:03] <IamEld3st> in live distro
[22:24] <IamEld3st> ok it went good thanks alot man