[11:47] <daker> mhall119, cjohnston nigelb does anyone have a log of bug 806005 ?
[11:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 806005 in loco-directory "Error (as opposed to validation error) given if person enters more than 32,000 for 'number of guests' (affects: 1) (heat: 7)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/806005
[11:58] <coalwater> sounds like some sort of overflow mabye?
[12:03] <coalwater> sadly i don't have access to test it
[12:05] <coalwater> daker, can u tell me where the validation is ?
[12:06] <daker> coalwater, first we need the backtrace
[12:07] <coalwater> well, if i had access i would have tried it my self
[12:07] <daker> coalwater, access to what ?
[12:07] <coalwater> 32k sounds like the int limit
[12:08] <coalwater> create an event my self
[12:08] <coalwater> :D
[12:08] <daker> the validation should be added here http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~loco-directory-dev/loco-directory/0.2/view/head:/loco_directory/events/forms.py#L156
[12:08] <coalwater> "You can not add a new team event. You are not a member of any LoCo Teams."
[12:09] <coalwater> it's a server side validation ?
[12:09] <daker> coalwater, and you are not a member of any LoCo Teams ?
[12:10] <coalwater> not really, i don't respect my loco team :D lol
[12:10] <daker> ok
[12:10] <daker> yep we need to add a server side validation or maybe both
[12:14] <nigelb> daker: limitation of the variable
[12:18] <coalwater> yea, i thought so
[12:22] <Ronnie> daker, coalwater: i think that django should be solve this. Its a common IntergerField() provided be django itself
[12:23] <coalwater> yea but python it self doesn't have int, double big int and such
[12:23] <coalwater> double and big int are separate lol
[12:26] <Ronnie> django itself does checking on input fields (for example IntergerField() is a normal textfield, but django checks if it is really a number, not a string). in the same checking functions i think django should check if the number does niet exceed 32-bit-ints
[12:57] <daker> Ronnie, nigelb what do you this is the max number of guests? 100 ?
[12:58] <daker> s/this/think
[13:02] <coalwater> guests per user?
[13:03] <coalwater> so loco direcotry thinks my name is coalwater2
[13:04] <Ronnie> daker i think more than 10 is a really exception and when this happens, there is something wrong. but the only reason for limiting the number is the ValueError. Limiting the number to 50 should be more than enough i think
[13:07] <nigelb> daker: I'll defer to what mhall119 has to say. I think ther are events with 5K participants. But definitely LC is not up for it in its current UX
[13:08] <coalwater> the wrong name on logon is a known bug right ?
[13:08] <nigelb> coalwater: yeah, the fix is waiting on IS.
[13:08] <coalwater> sorry but what does IS mean ?
[13:09] <Ronnie> coalwater: infra structure team
[13:09] <coalwater> hm i see
[13:09] <nigelb> IS is the canonical system admin team. They manage the server we run loco.ubuntu.com
[13:46] <daker> nigelb, well i think the number of guest should be fixed
[14:28] <mhall119> morning
[14:28] <mhall119> nigelb: daker: are you guys talking about people entering too large of a number for guests?
[14:28] <daker> yep
[14:29] <daker> mhall119, morning
[14:29] <daker> https://code.launchpad.net/~daker/loco-directory/fix.806005/+merge/68173
[14:39] <mhall119> daker: cool, do you know how to write tests for Django?
[14:39] <daker> no :/
[14:41] <mhall119> I think I need to hold a team classroom session on how to write tests for django
[14:43] <daker> that would be awesome!
[14:49] <mhall119> daker: okay, I'm going to grab your branch and add a test case to it, then propose it back to yours so you can see it before we merge, ok?
[14:49] <daker> ok
[14:50] <mhall119> but right now, I've got to go mow the lawn in 90F temperatures :(
[14:50] <mhall119> I'll be back later
[14:51] <daker> tyt
[15:12] <cjohnston> mornin
[15:22] <daker> morning cjohnston
[15:22] <coalwater> morning
[15:23] <coalwater> and bye :D gotta go
[15:24] <cjohnston> daker: https://code.launchpad.net/~daker/loco-directory/fix.707614/+merge/65124   pleas eadd a commit message
[15:24] <cjohnston> Please start adding a commit message to the MP any time you make one
[15:26] <daker> ok
[15:27] <daker> done
[15:27] <cjohnston> ty
[15:28] <cjohnston> im getting ready to review it
[15:35] <cjohnston> daker: https://code.launchpad.net/~daker/loco-directory/ltp-dj-1.3
[15:35] <daker> what ?
[15:35] <cjohnston> will that still work on older versions of django (ie.. what is used on the server its hosted on?)
[15:36] <daker> i have just start porting it to django 1.3
[15:45] <daker> brb
[15:52] <cjohnston> mhall119: "Get user TZ from launchpad, use it for default TZ settings when applicable" I'm not sure that this is required anymore for LoCo Directory now that we have the default team TZ and all
[15:52] <cjohnston> thoughts?
[17:40] <mhall119> it's not necessary
[17:49] <cjohnston> sweet
[17:49] <cjohnston> removed
[17:54] <cjohnston> wb daker
[17:54] <daker> yo
[17:55] <cjohnston> mhall119: you still around?
[18:01] <cjohnston> daker: https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/loco-directory/contact/+merge/66404   any chance you can take a look?
[18:02] <daker> sure
[18:03] <cjohnston> daker: what is https://code.launchpad.net/~akshaytayal/loco-directory/608289/+merge/51963 still missing?
[18:05] <daker> i think verbose_name for the country field is missing
[18:05] <cjohnston> ok..
[18:06] <cjohnston> I'm going to just make the change myself if you will review it and then we can get it pushed
[18:06] <daker> ok
[18:06] <daker> one other thing make the import like this : from teams.models import Country, Continent
[18:07] <cjohnston> ok
[18:07] <cjohnston> will that require a new migration script?
[18:09] <daker> no
[18:10] <daker> look at the diff lines 75,65
[18:10] <daker> from teams.models import Country
[18:10] <daker> 76	+from teams.models import Continent
[18:10] <cjohnston> yup
[18:11] <daker> just combine them :
[18:11] <daker> from teams.models import Country, Continent
[18:13] <mhall119> daker: ping
[18:13] <cjohnston> the verbose name was what I wasn't sure about
[18:13] <daker> mhall119, pong
[18:14] <daker> cjohnston, the verbose name doesn't affect the db
[18:14] <mhall119> daker: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/loco-directory/fix.806005/+merge/68181 is a merge proposal to your branch which adds a test case
[18:14] <cjohnston> hey mhall119.. 2 things... any chance you can take a look at the issues I had with your test, and any chance we can deploy summit today to get some of the work items closed?
[18:14] <cjohnston> thanks daker
[18:14] <mhall119> daker: you can run it with "python manage.py test events"
[18:14] <daker> ok
[18:14] <mhall119> once you're happy with it, commit it to your ranch and push it back to LP, and I'll approve your MP into trunk
[18:14] <daker> ok
[18:14] <cjohnston> I didnt know daker had a ranch
[18:14] <cjohnston> ;-)
[18:15] <daker> LoL
[18:15] <mhall119> cjohnston: what issues did you have with my tests?
[18:16] <cjohnston> they are pasted in the mp
[18:16] <cjohnston> daker: https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/loco-directory/608289/+merge/68182
[18:17] <cjohnston> mhall119: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/loco-directory/fixes-805280/+merge/66736
[18:18] <mhall119> cjohnston: commented on the MP
[18:18] <cjohnston> ok.. mhall119 if i do python manage.py test venues it works
[18:18] <mhall119> yeah, the teams tests are from dholbach's time or before, they need to be fixed or replaced
[18:19] <cjohnston> done
[18:20] <daker> cjohnston, https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/loco-directory/contact/+merge/66404
[18:20]  * cjohnston upgraded to oneiric last night
[18:21] <cjohnston> I have no idea what that means
[18:21] <mhall119> it means you upgraded to oneiric
[18:21] <daker> LoL
[18:21] <cjohnston> i didnt do anything
[18:21] <cjohnston> lol
[18:22] <cjohnston> nothing that i changed would be effected by that
[18:22] <mhall119> daker: looks like a db error
[18:22] <mhall119> maybe you need to try with a fresh database?
[18:23] <mhall119> daker: did you run the migration that is part of that MP?
[18:23] <daker> yep
[18:23] <mhall119> any error when the migration ran?
[18:24] <daker> no http://paste.ubuntu.com/645970/
[18:24] <mhall119> huh
[18:25] <mhall119> cjohnston: I've got some errands to run this afternoon, but I can do some reviews or write some tests this evening, and then maybe we'll be ready to file for a deployment on Monday
[18:25] <cjohnston> ok
[18:25] <mhall119> cjohnston: also, what would you think about me doing a classroom session on writing tests for LD?
[18:25] <cjohnston> i dont think there is really anything outstanding that is ready
[18:25] <cjohnston> sounds good to me mhall119
[18:26] <mhall119> cjohnston: we've got some bug fixes and also teh teams page speed improvements
[18:26] <mhall119> that have already landed
[18:26] <cjohnston> mhall119: ?
[18:26] <cjohnston> I was talking deploying summit
[18:27] <mhall119> oh, I'm talking LD
[18:27] <cjohnston> daker: i just tried my mp for the event contact with no issues again
[18:27] <mhall119> when did we switch to talking about summit?
[18:27] <cjohnston> i asked two different questions
[18:27] <cjohnston> ;-)
[18:27] <daker> ok cjohnston i'll try a fresh a db
[18:27] <cjohnston> one was deploy summit, the other was tests for your ld mp
[18:27] <mhall119> well there's your problem, I can't handle that many things
[18:27] <mhall119> it's walk or chew gum, not both
[18:28] <cjohnston> mhall119: as far as LD goes, daker's bug which you did tests for needs to land, and i have two branches that need to land
[18:28] <cjohnston> other than that I think LD is good to go.. no?
[18:28] <mhall119> yeah
[18:29] <cjohnston> what tests need to be done?
[18:29] <mhall119> what do yuo mean?
[18:30] <cjohnston> but I can do some reviews or write some tests this evening, and then  maybe we'll be ready to file for a deployment on Monday
[18:30] <mhall119> oh, I meant write test cases for some of the MP's that are landing
[18:30] <mhall119> like your adding of the contacts field
[18:30] <cjohnston> does it need to hold based upon not having a test?
[18:30] <mhall119> I just wrote one for daker's MP
[18:30] <cjohnston> right.. i saw that
[18:31] <mhall119> cjohnston: it doesn't need to, but I do want to get them in at some point
[18:31] <cjohnston> ok
[18:31] <mhall119> if daker approves your MP, go ahead and let it land
[18:31] <cjohnston> im going to try to get everything landed and try to get out the translations
[18:31] <mhall119> good idea, I can write tests while we wait for translations to come in
[18:33] <daker> mhall119, cjohnston does anyone of you got a fresh db ?
[18:33] <mhall119> daker: I made one friday
[18:33] <mhall119> daker: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mhall119/loco-directory/
[18:33] <mhall119> loco_directory.db
[18:34] <cjohnston> whats admin mhall119 ? admin password?
[18:34] <mhall119> hmm, I don't think I made one
[18:35] <mhall119> run "python manage.py createsuperuser" once you have the db
[18:35] <cjohnston> ok
[18:37] <mhall119> ok, I'm off, talk to you guys later
[18:38] <cjohnston> cya
[18:47] <daker> cjohnston, same error :/
[18:47] <daker> i am using django 1.1.1
[18:47] <cjohnston> hmm
[18:48] <cjohnston> can you update to 1.1.2 which is the recommended?
[18:48] <daker> ok
[18:52] <daker> good it works
[18:53] <cjohnston> sweet
[18:53] <cjohnston> makes me feel better
[18:53] <cjohnston> daker: have you worked on summit?
[18:54] <daker> i have an item on the BP which on standby
[18:54] <daker> s/which/which is
[18:54] <cjohnston> ?
[19:00] <daker> putting the color as field
[19:08] <daker> cjohnston, https://code.launchpad.net/~daker/loco-directory/fix.806005/+merge/68173
[19:13] <daker> cjohnston, this https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/loco-directory/608289/+merge/68182 will not work
[19:14] <daker> running the migrate command will give you this :
[19:14] <daker> from south.v2 import SchemaMigration
[19:14] <daker> ImportError: No module named v2
[19:15] <daker> i think the migration script was created with v0.7
[20:00] <daker> any update on this https://code.launchpad.net/~rorymcc/loco-directory/bug-600134/+merge/33995 ?
[20:18] <cjohnston> not that im aware of
[20:18] <cjohnston> daker: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~loco-directory-dev/loco-directory/0.2/view/head:/requirements.txt#L10
[20:21] <daker> cjohnston, what version used to create the migration script used here https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/loco-directory/contact/+merge/66404 ?
[20:22] <cjohnston> i dont remember
[20:23] <cjohnston> i didnt create the migration for 608289
[20:23] <cjohnston> i just used the one that was there
[20:23] <daker> yes i know
[21:05] <daker> cjohnston, can you reverse the order of the fields ?
[21:05] <daker> like this :
[21:05] <daker> continent = models.ForeignKey(Continent, verbose_name=_('Continent'), null=True)
[21:05] <daker> country = models.ForeignKey(Country, verbose_name=_('Country'), null=True)
[21:05] <cjohnston> sure
[21:05] <cjohnston> daker: could you look at an error im getting on summit?
[21:06] <daker> shoot
[21:06] <cjohnston> Could someone please help me with this error: NoReverseMatch: Reverse for 'summit.schedule.decorators.inner' with arguments '('',)' and keyword arguments '{}' not found.        my code is at http://pastebin.com/b63AWSXU   I can't figure out why it's throwing the NoReverseMatch.
[21:07] <mhall119> daker: we have South 0.7 available on the loco-directory server, so v2 migrations scripts should be okay, can you upgrade to 0.7 and try it again?
[21:07] <daker> cjohnston, that's the same error i was getting when i was working on the color field :/
[21:07] <daker> mhall119, that's ok it works with 0.7.3
[21:08] <mhall119> cjohnston: uds.ubuntu.com is wordpress, right?
[21:08] <cjohnston> yes mhall119
[21:08] <cjohnston> mhall119: maybe you can help me with my error ^
[21:08] <cjohnston> mhall119: I just posted a little bit ago another mp for summit
[21:08] <mhall119> cjohnston: we made something in ISD for exporting a WP menu and importing it into Django
[21:08] <cjohnston> daker: the change has been pushed
[21:08] <cjohnston> ok
[21:08] <cjohnston> thats cool
[21:09] <cjohnston> i still dont like ahving both sites seperatly
[21:09] <cjohnston> seems counterproductive
[21:09] <mhall119> oh wait, ours used Drupal as the source, no WP
[21:09] <mhall119> nevermind
[21:09] <cjohnston> boo
[21:09] <cjohnston> lol
[21:10] <mhall119> can maybe make a WP component
[21:10] <cjohnston> my statement still stands though about the seperate sites
[21:10] <cjohnston> I personally would rather put the effort into merging the site
[21:10] <mhall119> it would make sense if they moved summit to live at uds.ubuntu.com/schedule or something like that
[21:10] <cjohnston> I still don't know how well they would integrate
[21:10] <daker> cjohnston, there some spaces there it's generating an error
[21:11] <daker> cjohnston,
[21:11] <daker> +        spr = models.CharField(_("State/Province/Region"), max_length=50, null=True, blank=True)
[21:11] <cjohnston> pushed daker
[21:12] <cjohnston> mhall119: i mean, if nothing else the themeing is different
[21:12] <mhall119> right, summit isn't 960px is it
[21:12] <cjohnston> correct
[21:12] <cjohnston> that's why I'd like to move everything to summit
[21:12] <mhall119> I'd like to make summit 960px
[21:13] <cjohnston> i dont know how good it will look
[21:13] <cjohnston> it already doesnt look great
[21:13] <cjohnston> i wonder if it would look worse
[21:13] <mhall119> we can look into a Django CMS, we're doing that in ISD anyway
[21:13] <cjohnston> how much work would that be? is the code already there?
[21:14] <cjohnston> mhall119: any idea about that error?
[21:15] <daker> cjohnston, you getting that error when you touch the models, right ?
[21:15] <daker> are*
[21:17] <mhall119> cjohnston: no idea
[21:19] <daker> run run tarmac è_é !!
[21:20] <cjohnston> daker: i edited the url and edited views
[21:20] <cjohnston> mhall119: no idea to the error or the work/code being there?
[21:21] <mhall119> nope
[21:21] <cjohnston> im still confused... both?
[21:22] <mhall119> ok
[21:23] <daker> i stoped working on the color field because of this error.
[21:24] <cjohnston> I blame mhall119
[21:24] <mhall119> me too
[21:24] <mhall119> we shouldn't let that guy do any more work on these projects
[21:25] <cjohnston> no.. we should make that guy do all the work
[21:25] <daker> we should ban him from the channel :)
[21:26] <cjohnston> and make him do all the work
[21:52] <daker> g'night
[21:56] <cjohnston> mhall119: if I push the code thats giving me the error, can you take a look?
[23:28] <mhall119> cjohnston: it's in a branch right? I can merge it locally and test it
[23:28] <mhall119> wait, did you mean push to LP, or push to trunk?
[23:42] <cjohnston> lp
[23:44] <cjohnston> mhall119: https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/summit/today
[23:50] <mhall119> cjohnston: ok, I'll give it a look and see what I can find
[23:52] <cjohnston> ty


[00:10] <afflux> okay, bed time now! good night!
[01:49] <lifeless> There will be a short interruption to bazaar.launchpad.net and the ubuntu wiki to deploy a fix for the performance problems.
[03:10] <marnanel> pochu: a (fairly) good way of keeping up with current metacity bugs is the Metacity blog
[03:10] <marnanel> pochu: it isn't just a log of fixes and things; we try to make it a good read
[03:15] <pochu> marnanel: nice, *subscribes*
[03:16] <pochu> marnanel: perhaps it could be syndicated in Planet GNOME...
[03:16] <pochu> ?
[03:35] <collusion> Playing with bug triage, I'm looking at LP#58162... Hardy has incorporated an upstream fix.  What status should the bug be set to?
[03:35] <RAOF> Fix released, if the fixed package is in the hardy archives.
[03:36] <collusion> And as a random off-the-street user, I can set that status?
[03:37] <RAOF> Yes.
[03:38] <mrooney> RAOF: really, you don't even have to join BugSquad?
[03:38] <collusion> empirically, ROAF speaks the truth :-)
[03:39] <RAOF> mrooney: Indeed.  Anyone can mark a bug as fixed.
[03:41] <collusion> ubuntu-bugsquad isn't archived at gmane?
[03:55] <marnanel> pochu: no, they won't do that; Planet GNOME is only for humans.  It is at http://planet.gnome.org/news though, and one day there'll be a planet at http://news.gnome.org
[03:56] <marnanel> believe me, I'd *like* it to be on Planet GNOME: it'd get a lot more readers :)
[04:05] <erichj> who assigns bugs?
[04:06] <twb> bugs, or bug tickets? ;-)
[04:06] <erichj> bug tickets
[04:09] <erichj> lets say you're triaging a bug and you have everything you need. It's been confirmed, it's not a dupe, all the proper attachments are part of the ticket. What happens after that. Does the person triaging the bug assign it to someone that maintains the package it affects?
[04:09] <erichj> or does someone from that team just pick it up when they have the chance to take a look at it?
[04:10] <RAOF> The latter, generally.  We don't really have the Debian system of maintainers.
[04:10] <erichj> ok
[04:10] <RAOF> People will generally assign bugs _to themselves_ when they start to work on it.
[04:11] <twb> RAOF: would that be analogous to (unused, AFAICT) "bts claim" under Debian?
[04:12] <RAOF> I have no idea.  That's the first time I've heard of such a thing :)
[04:16] <erichj> triaging is kind of fun. at least it's something to do
[04:29] <twb> Is bughelper(1) supposed to do anything other than just sit there when I run it without arguments?
[04:30] <twb> (Or does it, without arguments, list *EVERY* bug?)
[07:17] <twb> I'm trying to understand how to report and manipulate bugs on Ubuntu without having to use the launchpad web UI (which I find extremely painful).  I have discovered apport-cli.
[07:17] <twb> I tried to run "apport-cli -p gnome-system-tools", but this exits immediately without an error status or, apparently, doing anything useful.
[07:18] <RAOF> twb: Sorry, but I'm pretty sure that's going to spawn a firefox process on you.
[07:18] <twb> Oh.
[07:18] <RAOF> The mail interface remains? :/
[07:19] <twb> I was expecting something called -cli to have a command line or curses interface.
[07:19] <twb> It seems to do something if I include -f
[07:20] <twb> Unfortunately, that something is to fire up a web browser.
[07:20] <twb> Namely w3m, which I believe cannot log into launchpad, because launchpad does naughty things with cookies.
[08:02] <erichj> If I am triaging a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/209541 but I suspect that the problem isn't with the totem application but with gstreamer how do I go about running that down if I can't replicate the bug because mine works perfectly?
[08:02] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 209541 in totem "totem pauses for about 10 seconds before playing a movie in hardy" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[08:26] <Lhademmor> Hi all, I'm new to the BugSquad, but would like to help with triaging. So far, I've tried triaging a few bugs today.  Right now, I'm looking at bug 209532 and wondering what to do with it. My thoughts are to assign it to the at-spi package and try to confirm it. Is this the right way to do it?
[08:26] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 209532 in ubuntu "Accessibility keyboard settings get lost" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/209532
[08:27] <erichj> no
[08:27] <erichj> he says it's been reported before. find the other reports mark as dupe. move on
[08:28] <Lhademmor> ok, will do. Thakns
[08:28] <Lhademmor> *thanks
[08:31] <thekorn> twb, you can write a python script using python-launchpad-bugs to report bugs without using a webbrowser,
[08:31] <thekorn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugHelper/Dev/python-launchpad-bugs/Bug
[08:41] <twb> thekorn_: that's my intention
[08:41] <twb> thekorn_: I went off on a tangent when I saw apport
[09:41] <warren_> hi
[09:41] <warren_> can someone look if he/her has the same problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdebi/+bug/209578
[09:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 209578 in gdebi "gdebi-kde crashes with an memory allocation error" [Undecided,New]
[09:44] <james_w> warren_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdebi/+bug/153943 ?
[09:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 153943 in gdebi "Gdebi-kde uses massive amounts of memory!" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[09:45] <warren_> no
[09:46] <twb> Is ubotu clever enough to post a link if you just say something like this?
[09:46] <twb> LP 153943
[09:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 153943 in gdebi "Gdebi-kde uses massive amounts of memory!" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153943
[09:46] <twb> Cool.
[09:49] <james_w> warren_: why isn't that the one?
[09:49] <james_w> do you have loads of RAM?
[09:49] <warren_> no
[09:49] <warren_> the program can't allocate mem and nothing happens at all
[09:49] <warren_> it even doesn't start installing
[09:50] <warren_> the other bugs seems to install the package but uses too much memory
[09:53] <james_w> ah, ok.
[09:54] <warren_> quite important bug IMHO
[10:30] <Riddell> james_w: that's a known bug with gdebi, I've asked someone to fix it
[10:31] <james_w> Riddell: ah, thanks
[10:34]  * ogra_cmpc has similar probs on the classmate, it loads the full package db files into ram, if you only have main/restricted enabled it should work with a lot smaller  footprint
[10:35] <ogra_cmpc> (classmate has 256M and no swap)
[10:36] <ogra_cmpc> i dont know how thats fixable though ... you would need to load the file compressed into ram and uncompress on the fly or so,m but i suspect that would make everything slow
[10:40] <twb> gdebi looks interesting, but does it have a non-GUI version?
[10:57] <james_w> twb: wget and dpkg -i?
[10:58] <james_w> actually, I don't think covers it all.
[11:00] <twb> james_w: the point of gdebi, AIUI, is that you already have a .deb that you wgot, but you want it to resolv the debs automagically
[11:00] <twb> Instead of running dpkg -i, waiting for it to fail because of missing deps, then apt-get installing those missing deps
[11:01] <twb> (ICBW, I'm just going by the package description.)
[11:01] <james_w> ah yeah, sorry
[11:01] <james_w> I was getting it a bit confused with apturl
[11:02] <twb> No problem.
[11:14] <ogra_cmpc> gdebi is the non gui version
[11:14] <ogra_cmpc> gdebi-gtk or -kde are the gui variants of that
[11:14] <twb> ogra_cmpc: then why does gdebi depend on glade?
[11:15] <twb> Oh, the names are a little different on Debian: gdebi = gdebi-gtk and gdebi-core = gdebi
[11:15] <ogra_cmpc> because it ships gdebigtk by default
[11:16] <ogra_cmpc> *gdebi-gtk
[11:16] <ogra_cmpc> i guess Riddell would like to see the same split :)
[11:17] <twb> Just sync from sid :P
[11:17]  * twb ducks
[11:28] <ogra_cmpc> twb, given that the change was likely uploaded to debian to do exactly that i think that might happen :)
[12:22] <pochu> marnanel: well, I hope it's written by humans ;)
[12:26] <james_w> seb128: hi, I realise it's a universe package, but would you have any objection to the following upload for hardy?
[12:26] <james_w> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus-python/+bug/44704
[12:26] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 44704 in nautilus-python "Expects to find libpython2.4.so, should look for libpython2.4.so.1" [Low,Confirmed]
[12:27] <james_w> it's a completely broken package at the moment, so we should have something. I'm just wondering if the proposed patch is the wrong solution.
[12:55] <Iulian> Hey
[12:58] <seb128> james_w: will do it, ideally the sponsor teams should be subscribed on such bugs though
[12:58] <seb128> hello Iulian
[12:59] <thekorn> james_w, your python-nautilus patch works for me, it's now nautilus-bzr.py spitting some tracebacks
[12:59] <Iulian> Hi seb128
[12:59] <thekorn> hello Iulian, seb128
[12:59] <james_w> seb128: thanks, I just wanted to know if you had any objections, I'll subscribe the sponsors now.
[12:59] <seb128> hey thekorn
[13:00] <james_w> thekorn: yes, it seems very out of date from looking at the tracebacks.
[13:00] <seb128> james_w: thanks
[13:06] <marnanel> pochu: part of it is actually written by a script; it has a human editor, though (me)
[13:06] <Iulian> Hi thekorn, pedro_
[13:06] <pedro_> hello Iulian
[13:58] <seb128> james_w: still around?
[13:59] <seb128> james_w: any reason nautilus-python still has a python directory under the old nautilus directory?
[14:01] <james_w> in the source package?
[14:02] <james_w> ah, I see, I've no idea
[14:02] <james_w> it's listed in debian/dirs
[14:03] <james_w> - Create an empty /usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-1.0/python directory for
[14:03] <james_w>       plugins to be installed into.
[14:03] <james_w>       [debian/dirs]
[14:04] <james_w> Loic Minier<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Wed,  1 Mar 2006 20:36:33
[14:04] <james_w> I don't see when it moved to the new nautilus-extensions though, do you know when this would have been?
[14:05] <seb128> james_w: nautilus 2.21 changed the abi version
[14:06] <seb128> james_w: maybe you could fix that too before I sponsor the change? ;-)
[14:06] <james_w>  - Make it work with nautilus 2.22
[14:06] <james_w> so I think it was just missed in that update
[14:06] <seb128> right
[14:07] <seb128> it's not technically required, most users install those in their user directory usually
[14:08] <james_w> sure, give me 5 minutes to test
[14:12] <qense> hello
[14:12] <james_w> seb128: done, thanks
[14:12] <seb128> thank you for doing the changes ;-)
[14:13] <james_w> no problem
[14:13] <james_w> I'm working on the users-apple fix right now
[14:13] <seb128> what is that?
[14:13] <james_w> -applet sorry
[14:13] <seb128> ah
[14:13] <james_w> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/198172
[14:13] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 198172 in gnome-system-tools "[users-admin] Changing anything about the root account sets and invalid home directory" [High,Triaged]
[14:46] <seb128> james_w: not sure if it would have make sense to update the dir version rather than drop it?
[14:48] <james_w> seb128: ah, ok. I thought that the python/ dir was obsolete now, I'll update it
[14:48] <seb128> james_w: no, that's just the versioning which changed, ok
[14:56] <seb128> pedro_: if you triage bug #209587 be careful it has login informations
[14:56] <ubotu> Bug 209587 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/209587 is private
[14:57] <pedro_> seb128: ok
[15:28] <afflux> morning
[15:44] <warren_> hi
[15:45] <warren_> can someone have a look at this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdebi/+bug/209578
[15:45] <warren_> quite annoying bug
[15:45] <warren_> also very annoying for persons who are now to linux; please fix it :D
[15:57] <bddebian> Boo
[16:06] <james_w> jcastro: the other day we were discussing having a way for upstreams to have superpowers for their downstream packages in launchpad. marnanel was interested in doing this, is there an expected timeframe for this feature?
[16:06] <james_w> Has it been proposed and agreed upon?
[16:07] <jcastro> james_w: I will talk to bdmurray about it in our call in about an hour, I will let you know asap
[16:09] <james_w> jcastro: great, thanks
[16:12] <bdmurray> jcastro: we have a call?
[16:14] <jcastro> bdmurray: every monday. :D
[16:14] <bdmurray> jcastro: ;)
[16:14] <andrea_c7a> Hi everyone. I have committed a patch to fix #201330. It is attached to a comment I left. How do I make it go through to be released ? shall I "Nominate for release" ?
[16:15] <bdmurray> bug 201330
[16:15] <ubotwo> Launchpad bug 201330 in compiz "Need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201330
[16:15] <andrea_c7a> exactly
[16:16] <andrea_c7a> check the last 2 comments
[16:16] <james_w> andrea_c7a: no, you need to find a sponsor
[16:17] <james_w> andrea_c7a: putting your patch in a .tar.gz isn't great, as it makes it more work to review
[16:18] <james_w> umm, and which one is yours?
[16:18] <bdmurray> I'm changing the status of the bug back to Triaged as the fix has not been commited to the package's source tree.
[16:18] <james_w> the preferred way to present these is either as a plain patch file, or a debdiff, which is still a patch, but slightly more
[16:18] <andrea_c7a> the tar.gz is the debian/patches directory. compiz uses the quilt system. I thought the debian/patches was all you need to define a patch
[16:18] <james_w> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/Debdiff
[16:19] <james_w> andrea_c7a: yes, that's fine, it's just not the preferred way to do this.
[16:20] <james_w> also, you should use "dch" from the devscripts package to update the changelog
[16:20] <james_w> and don't include the changelog change in the quilt diff, as that will not work
[16:22] <james_w> andrea_c7a: thanks for writing the patch though.
[16:22] <james_w> I don't know the usual workflow for the compiz package, but if you upload a new patch that fixes the above we can ask what the next step would be
[16:24] <andrea_c7a> ok I will try to generate a debdiff and send it again then
[16:27] <andrea_c7a> once I generated the debdiff it says to "send it to the relevant person" but I can't see who the maintainer of the compiz package is
[16:28] <andrea_c7a> would that be MOTU-Media ?
[16:32] <afflux> andrea_c7a: it's ubuntu-main-sponsors, just subscribe them to the bug using "subscribe someone else". Don't forget to attach the debdiff to the bug!
[16:32] <bdmurray> andrea_c7a: you could ping amaranth or mvo
[16:32] <afflux> okay, I'll be quiet :)
[16:33] <afflux> (yeah, bzr is running again!)
[16:33] <andrea_c7a> ok I'll do that. Thanks very much for your help!
[16:35] <mvo> andrea_c7a: what bugnumber is that?
[16:35] <bdmurray> mvo: bug 201330
[16:35] <ubotwo> Launchpad bug 201330 in compiz "Need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201330
[16:37] <andrea_c7a> yep
[16:38] <andrea_c7a> mvo: my patch is in the last comment of the bug
[16:45] <james_w> hi secretlondon
[16:46] <secretlondon> hi james_w
[16:51] <WarrenDUM> someone know 'mbh' ?
[16:58] <james_w> WarrenDUM: where from?
[16:59] <james_w> thanks seb128
[16:59] <seb128> james_w: you are welcome
[16:59] <pochu> WarrenDUM: Last Seen: 9 weeks 3 days (22h 9m 21s) ago
[16:59] <james_w> seb128: what's the difference between mime-support and shared-mime-info?
[16:59] <WarrenDUM> pochu: ??
[17:00] <pochu> WarrenDUM: /msg NickServ info mbh
[17:00] <WarrenDUM> ok
[17:00] <WarrenDUM> someone knows if he wrote gdebi-kde?
[17:01] <seb128> james_w: mime-support is the old mimesystem, I'm wondering if that's not a debian invention, shared-mime-info is the freedesktop specification implementation
[17:01] <Riddell> WarrenDUM: mhb, yes
[17:01] <Riddell> WarrenDUM: what's the problem?
[17:01] <seb128> james_w: the modern desktops, etc use the freedesktop datas, mime-support is still used by debian tools, mutt, and likely lot of other non desktopish things
[17:01] <WarrenDUM> well there's still a huge bug in gdebi-kde
[17:01] <WarrenDUM> in hardy and gutsy, it can't install any package
[17:02] <james_w> seb128: ah, ok thanks. I'm looking at bug 201291. I've grabbed shared-mime-info and it seems to have the changes already, so it's no problem it seems.
[17:02] <ubotwo> Launchpad bug 201291 in mime-support "Add ogv (video) and oga (audio) as recognized extension for Ogg Theora and Ogg Vorbis, respectively" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201291
[17:02] <WarrenDUM> Cannot allocate memory error, but isn't the bug where too much memory is used
[17:02] <Riddell> WarrenDUM: works for me, is that the out of memory issue?
[17:02] <WarrenDUM> well it is a mem issue but not the same
[17:02] <Riddell> WarrenDUM: right, I have someone working on that
[17:02] <WarrenDUM> really?
[17:02] <WarrenDUM> on what problem?
[17:03] <Riddell> on the embedded konsole widget doing silly things with memory
[17:03] <WarrenDUM> but it should install?
[17:03] <WarrenDUM> it doesn't install at all
[17:03] <WarrenDUM> others are able to install but it simply uses too much memory
[17:04] <WarrenDUM> my problem is that it doesn't do anything
[17:04] <Riddell> it should install if it doesn't randomly get memory problems
[17:04] <WarrenDUM> but i made a bug report
[17:05] <seb128> james_w: do you have an example? and what mimetype is displayed in nautilus?
[17:05] <WarrenDUM> is it possible that it doesn't crash in an english environmentn but crashes in a franch environment?
[17:05] <WarrenDUM> bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdebi/+bug/209578
[17:05] <ubotwo> Launchpad bug 209578 in gdebi "gdebi-kde crashes with an memory allocation error" [Undecided,New]
[17:06] <james_w> seb128: I don't have an example I'm afraid, but the .xml has all of the entries for audio/ogg etc., which is what needs adding there.
[17:07] <WarrenDUM> Riddell : aren't you the kde packager?
[17:07] <seb128> james_w: right, what I means is that it works correctly for me, this bug doesn't seem to be rightly milestoned, it's a low importance issue and has no concrete example
[17:08] <Riddell> WarrenDUM: I work on Kubuntu
[17:08] <WarrenDUM> ok
[17:08] <WarrenDUM> but is my bug related to the other bug?
[17:08] <james_w> seb128: ah, ok. I guess it just affects things that are still using mime-support.
[17:08] <Riddell> WarrenDUM: yes
[17:08] <WarrenDUM> ok
[17:09] <james_w> seb128: or does it affect KDE as well, they've not transitioned to shared-mime-info correct?
[17:09] <WarrenDUM> so this bug report wasn't needed?
[17:09] <james_w> Riddell: hi, does KDE use shared-mime-info or mime-support or something else?
[17:10] <seb128> james_w: I think all modern desktop used shared-mime-info but I'm not sure
[17:10] <WarrenDUM> PS: i don't like the new qtcurve theme ^_^
[17:10] <WarrenDUM> polyester was nicer :p
[17:10] <Riddell> james_w: KDE 4 does, KDE 3 not
[17:11] <james_w> Riddell: ok, thanks, it's still worth updating mime-support.
[17:13] <WarrenDUM> Riddell: will qtcurve be the default theme for the final release?
[17:14] <Riddell> WarrenDUM: yes
[17:14] <WarrenDUM> ow ok :(
[17:16] <WarrenDUM> ubotwo? :/
[17:53] <Pres-Gas> james_w, Hey, I talked with you about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/200064 and have gotten some others aware of this report.  Would you be considered officially looking at this bug or how does that work?
[17:54] <ubotwo> Launchpad bug 200064 in network-manager "the iwl3945 driver will not connect to my open, 802.11 b, linksys  AP" [Undecided,New]
[17:54] <james_w> Pres-Gas: hi
[17:54] <james_w> I'm not looking at it no, I'm subscribed, but I don't really know enough to tackle it.
[17:55] <Pres-Gas> Ahhh, okay, that is what I thought, but wanted to trebble check, james_w
[17:55]  * Pres-Gas is wondering who's door I should be knocking on
[17:56] <james_w> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/190968
[17:56] <ubotwo> Launchpad bug 190968 in linux "[hardy] [regression] iwl3945 doesn't associate on kernel 2.6.24-7" [Medium,Triaged]
[17:56] <Pres-Gas> Maybe I am not googleing right, but I am not seeing many issues like this...
[17:56] <james_w> can you verify if that is the same?
[17:56]  * Pres-Gas is looking now
[17:56] <james_w> Pres-Gas: is your AP SSID hidden?
[17:57] <james_w> ESSID sorry
[17:58] <Pres-Gas> LOL, no
[17:59] <Pres-Gas> ...and I did a fresh install in that I parted the drive...so Hardy is not carrying legacy files
[17:59] <Pres-Gas> Yeah, I may jump in on this one, though since it is triaged
[18:07] <james_w> the hidden ssid is well known and being worked on, so if yours was that would explain it.
[18:13] <Pres-Gas> james_w, I wish it was....plus I have other strange AP issues and am afraid it is throwing things off
[18:13] <Pres-Gas> The thing I DO know is that my AP works okay in 7.10
[18:19] <james_w> well, it could well be a driver issue then, due to the change to iwl
[18:21] <Pres-Gas> That is what I am thinking, but that does not help without facts (log entries, etc.)
[18:24] <lakin_> ubuntu-ca
[18:24] <lakin_> oops
[18:24] <lakin_> :P
[18:24] <bdmurray> There is supposed to be an update to the iwl drivers shortly
[18:29] <Pres-Gas> bdmurray, where did you hear that?
[18:29] <Pres-Gas> That would be wonderful, though
[18:29] <Pres-Gas> Looked like the iwl drivers themselves are newer than in Ubu
[18:29] <bdmurray> Pres-Gas: in bug 200509
[18:29] <ubotwo> Launchpad bug 200509 in linux-backports-modules-2.6.24 "iwl4965: Microcode SW error detected.  Restarting 0x2000000" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200509
[18:30] <bdmurray> and bug 185470
[18:30] <ubotwo> Launchpad bug 185470 in linux "iwl3945 not functioning : microcode error" [Unknown,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185470
[18:31] <Pres-Gas> bdmurray, not quite the issue I am having, but here is to hoping that it stumbles onto my issue and fixes it as well.
[18:58] <bdmurray> james_w: What is the best way to link a bzr branch to a bug?  I found the url structure odd
[18:58] <bdmurray> s/found/find/
[19:00] <james_w> bdmurray: dunno, I've never done it, let me have a look
[19:00] <bdmurray> You can't use the full url like https://code.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/unattended-upgrades/brian-fixes
[19:00] <bdmurray> Instead you have to remove everything before ~
[19:00] <james_w> You'e using "add branch" from the bug?
[19:00] <james_w> ah, ok
[19:01] <james_w> so, a branch name has 3 parts, ~owner/project/branch-name
[19:01] <james_w> so you need to give all three to identify it
[19:01] <james_w> it's probably worth filing a bug asking for a full URL to be allowed in there
[19:02] <james_w> at least a code.lp.net/~owner/project/branch one.
[19:02] <bdmurray> Okay, it seems like people would try to use a full url there but I wasn't sure if it was just me.
[19:02] <james_w> heh, I read that branch as "brain-fixes"
[19:02] <james_w> yeah, especially as that's how you do upstream bug links
[19:03] <bdmurray> I right clicked on a branch at https://code.launchpad.net/unattended-upgrades/+branches to paste in it.
[19:04] <bdmurray> james_w: Do you know if that would be a malone bug?
[19:04] <james_w> I think it's probably malone
[19:04] <james_w> though I don't know
[19:04] <james_w> they'll at least know where to send it if it isn't
[19:04] <bdmurray> there is that ;)
[19:09] <bdmurray> james_w: does bug 113218 look the same as what I am talking about to you?
[19:09] <ubotwo> Launchpad bug 113218 in launchpad-bazaar "fields for entering a branch should just let you paste a url" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113218
[19:11] <james_w> yeah, but that's a wider issue
[19:11] <james_w> that's asking for http://wherever/some/branch to be accepted
[19:11] <james_w> you're just asking to be able to use the full code.lp.net URL rather than just the full branch name
[19:11] <bdmurray> okay, I'll submit another one then
[19:11] <james_w> which should be easier for them
[19:15] <bdmurray> james_w: I've submitted bug 209834 if you are curious
[19:15] <Pres-Gas> bdmurray and james_w, how long does it take for commits (that backports package) to get to the main apt servers?
[19:15] <Pres-Gas> What is the turn aroud time
[19:17] <james_w> Pres-Gas: don't know
[19:17] <james_w> where's the commit you are talking about?
[19:18] <Pres-Gas> bdmurray: There is supposed to be an update to the iwl drivers shortly
[19:19] <bdmurray> Pres-Gas: you could watch https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-backports-modules-2.6.24/ for a new version as it would show up in Launchpad first
[19:20] <Pres-Gas> By the way, you two are very helpful and userfriendly.  Thanks a ton!
[19:22] <james_w> Pres-Gas: uploads appear to happen on average every one to two weeks
[19:22] <james_w> the commit was done three days ago and the last upload was more than two weeks ago
[19:22] <james_w> so I doubt it will be too long
[19:23] <bdmurray> I'd imagine this week so maybe I shouldn't have said shortly
[19:27] <Pres-Gas> Shortly in a relative sort of way
[19:55]  * DOOM_NX helloooo
[20:04] <pochu> jwendell: regarding your Liferea bug, asac meant -0ubuntu3, not ubuntu4. please update the bug report once you update to ubuntu3 :)
[20:05] <asac> pochu: jwendell: as i wrote in the bug ... that fix will not be effective until next xulrunner is available
[20:05] <asac> you cannot really verify it right now
[20:06] <pochu> hmm, right
[20:06] <pochu> asac: I'm curious, what will the next xulrunner upload change?
[20:06] <asac> pochu: jwendell: to test you can setup a link libsqlite3.so -> libsqlite3.so.0
[20:06] <pochu> ah
[20:06] <asac> thats all what xulrunner does to help this fix
[20:06] <asac> pochu: the link is the other way around
[20:06] <asac> so: ln -s libsqlite3.so libsqlite3.so.0
[20:06] <asac> :)
[20:06] <pochu> do you have an ETA for that upload? :)
[20:07] <asac> pochu: upstream is about to release beta5
[20:08] <asac> we will upload latest by then
[20:08] <asac> next few days
[20:08] <pochu> good, thanks
[20:09] <pochu> I read beta5 will be the last beta, is that true?
[20:09] <asac> lets hope
[20:10] <pochu> I guess the download dialog won't change this late...
[20:11] <asac> nobody knows. i will not push for anything that might slow down the release process at last
[20:12] <pochu> heh, understandable :)
[20:12] <pochu> but IMHO the current one is much worse than FF2's one
[20:13] <warren_> does someone else experience this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdebi/+bug/209578
[20:43] <sroecker> can so have a look at Bug 206921
[20:44] <james_w> bug 206921
[20:45] <james_w> ah, it's not here
[20:45] <sroecker> the bot?
[20:46] <james_w> yep
[20:47] <secretlondon> annoying
[20:47] <Pres-Gas> That is a nice bot to have.
[20:47] <secretlondon> not in -announce either
[20:48] <jussio1> ubotu died
[20:48] <jussio1> wont be back till at least tomorrow
[20:48] <secretlondon> ah ok
[20:48] <bdmurray> I thought Seveas was rewriting it
[20:48] <secretlondon> what happened?
[20:48] <Seveas> server upgraded to hardy, won't come up after reboot
[20:48] <jussio1> upgrade to hardy and the server died...
[20:48] <Seveas> I guess I have to file some bugs :)
[20:49] <jussio1> We can offer a temporary replacement bot if you wish.
[20:51] <Seveas> it'll be back tomorrow around 10:00 CEST
[20:51] <Seveas> the world won't die without him
[20:51] <secretlondon> sure
[20:51] <secretlondon> thanks for fixing it :)
[20:54] <james_w> sroecker: mine uses org.freedesktop.PowerManagement.Backlight
[20:54] <james_w> your's uses org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.LaptopPanel
[20:54] <sroecker> james_w, does yours work in latest hardy?
[20:55] <james_w> yep
[20:55] <james_w> sroecker: reading more I see you understand the problem a little better
[20:55] <james_w> mine's not a macbook
[20:56] <sroecker> james_w, ah ok, need a macbook to confirm this
[20:57] <james_w> sroecker: can you strace it to find out why mmap fails please?
[21:00] <sroecker> james_w, I don't know, hal calls it somehow
[21:01] <james_w> strace -f hald
[21:02] <james_w> It's doing an mmap directly on to the video card memory, which obviously has the potential to go wrong
[21:02] <sroecker> ah
[21:06] <james_w> sroecker: http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=hal.git;a=blob;h=99c390518fb383485af5e22a501c19c2275f649f;hb=3eac1d8399a7e7d1eb76873c10a29e0fea94ad6c;f=hald/linux/addons/addon-macbook-backlight.c
[21:06] <james_w> that's the code if you understand any of it
[21:10]  * DOOM_NX Eimai edw eimai edw, na sou lew alh8eies, na omorfainw tis nuxtes giati apla S'AGAPW.
[21:19] <\sh> guys, the archive of the ubuntu-bugs ML is updated the last time in 2007?
[21:31] <seb128> \sh: the web interface you mean? the listmasters asked about it and nobody was using the webinterface to read the thousand of bugs the list gets every week
[21:32] <seb128> you can still get the mbox for it though I think
[21:32] <\sh> seb128: ah ... I didn't know...
[21:32] <seb128> do you really think there is a need to have a webinterface for that?
[21:32] <seb128> all the bugs are in the bug tracker anyway
[21:33] <bdmurray> I know where to get the mbox if somebody is interested
[21:34] <\sh> seb128: google search is faster then to search in LP sometimes
[21:35] <\sh> seb128: I was just wondering .)
[21:35] <bdmurray> I think there are some other sites that index the bugs mailing list.
[21:37] <bdmurray> Like<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:45] <Nafallo> hmm
[21:45] <Nafallo> light is pretty damn fast :-)
[22:01] <Tuv0k> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/audacious/+bug/209924
[22:25]  * DOOM_NX Mou ekane afierwsh kopela to S'EXW ERWTEUTEI. etsi gia na skasoun kapoies.
[22:38] <Ascarel> hey tawmas
[22:39] <tawmas> hey ascarel
[22:56] <secretlondon> hi greg_g
[22:56] <secretlondon> hi greg-g
[23:01] <bdmurray> hey greg-g
[23:13] <greg-g> hiya secretlondon bdmurray
[23:14] <greg-g> bdmurray: do you want people in bugcontrol to give a +1/-1 for applicants (via a private email of course)?
[23:18] <yuriy> hi bdmurray
[23:19] <yuriy> bughelper question, i think.  how did you go about putting together the bug day page?
[23:19] <yuriy> for tomorrow
[23:24] <bdmurray> yuriy: it's quite a mess really
[23:26] <bdmurray> yuriy: However this one should work for you http://pastebin.osuosl.org/6614
[23:26] <bdmurray> Mmm, those bugs should work
[23:28] <bdmurray> What I mean is that list of bugs was created using the same logic I used for the GNOME bugs
[23:35] <yuriy> bdmurray: ah, neat! thanks!
[23:35] <bdmurray> no problem


[03:24] <Lawilm> Hello, First off brand new to ubuntu 14.04
[03:25] <Lawilm> I am trying to setup a media server, if the port on the router i am connected to with the media server has a 10.XX.XX.XX local ip will devices on the same router but a different ip pool of 192. be able to connect for the purpose of media servers?
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[03:29] <Lawilm> [22:24] <Lawilm> Hello, First off brand new to ubuntu 14.04
[03:29] <Lawilm> [22:25] <Lawilm> I am trying to setup a media server, if the port on the router i am connected to with the media server has a 10.XX.XX.XX local ip will devices on the same router but a different ip pool of 192. be able to connect for the purpose of media servers?
[12:01] <vNub3> hi just need to know if theres anyone here who knows how to install odoo openerp in xubuntu? thank you
[12:03] <vNub3> I've been looking for instructions online, but nothing seems to work..
[12:08] <knome> vNub3, in the case somebody would be able to help you, they need details
[12:16] <eoli3n> hi
[12:16] <eoli3n> will xubuntu 16.04 be out as ubuntu 16.04 date ?
[12:18] <knome> yes
[12:27] <eoli3n> thx
[12:41] <wiak> how can i remove the touchpad gestures?
[12:41] <wiak> the one that changes windows..
[12:41] <wiak> is stupid :(
[12:41] <wiak> and annoying
[12:42] <knome> wiak, please don't use enter as punctuation, it's annoying.
[12:42] <knome> (:
[12:42] <wiak> please stop with the reverse smeily its annoying. (:
[12:42] <wiak> hehe :)
[12:43] <knome> you're just looking at it from the wrong angle...
[12:43] <wiak> hehe
[12:43] <wiak> i just happend to drive me nuts that gesture
[12:43] <wiak> when i type something in one terminal window it then changes to another..
[12:43] <knome> have you looked under the mouse and touchpad dialog in settings manager?
[12:44] <wiak> egalaxtouch EX7903
[12:44] <wiak> EPTS(2 elantech touchpad
[12:45] <wiak> meybe i should disable touch while typing
[12:45] <knome> that would likely do what you want.
[12:46] <wiak> its like alt tab but in gestures that is my problem, but yeah the disable while touch fixes it
[12:46] <wiak> i happend to cleaned my table and then i spilled over it bah
[12:47] <wiak> i hate it when that happend
[14:12] <Noneatme> hey everyone, any ideas how I can select a network share (username and password required) as a download directory in Jdownloader 2 beta?
[14:14] <knome> Noneatme, i would ask the jdownloader developers
[14:15] <Noneatme> well I know that I can mount a share to a specific directory, but I don't want to do that because I can access my files via Thunar fine
[14:15] <Noneatme> in what way does thunar the mount thingy?
[15:49] <Arthur_D3> hi, still having issues getting second screen (TV) to work with this laptop, would appreciate any help
[15:50] <Arthur_D3> I've tried using both the built-in screen configuration tool and nvidia-settings to no avail
[15:59] <puff> I'm on xubuntu 14.04 LTS.  I'm trying to use Amarok, but there are no menus at the top of the window.  I can't seem to find any sort of button to make them visible.
[16:01] <puff> I quit out of amarok and restarted it, same deal.
[16:05] <flocculant> puff: possibly ctrl+m
[16:11] <puff> flocculant: Ah, that worked, thanks. Man that was annoying.
[20:39] <Lawilm> Has anyone ever had a problem with teamviewer on ubunut? I can connect and I can see that I am moving the mouse on my ubunut machine but I cant get a display back to my computer of the ubunut screen???
[21:14] <Chance> help
[21:15] <knome> ehm.
[21:55] <xubuntu29w> Hello,
[21:55] <xubuntu29w> I am unable to connect a VPN, somebody can help me


[12:07] <junk1> laptop ibma22m my wireless card is wn825gv2 motorola
[12:07] <junk1> it dont work but should
[12:08] <junk1> hello?
[12:09] <junk1> damn no help here eather its as bad as the boards thanks for nothing


[09:30] <rmg51> Morning
[12:09] <ChinnoDog> morning
[12:17] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys, hamsters and everything else
[12:35] <ChinnoDog> Why does remote GLX require me to enable indirect rendering?
[21:58] <ChinnoDog> Anyone have experience using OpenVPN?
[21:59] <ChinnoDog> oops, that isn't what I meant
[21:59] <ChinnoDog> I mean OpenConnect
[21:59] <ChinnoDog> The open source replacement for AnyConnect
[22:26] <ChinnoDog> Well, I'm attempting to compile it for Windows as we speak. AnyConnect keeps breaking my network communications with my VMs.