[00:00] <Flannel> FromTheInside: /join #ubuntu-fr
[00:00] <qwerkus> FromTheInside: oui mais c est un chan anglais
[00:01] <FromTheInside> thanks Flannel :)
[00:01] <Blizzerand> hmmm guess everyones's off to sleep
[00:02] <FromTheInside> qwerkus salut, j'suis un peu en gal├©re ├Ā vrai dire
[00:02]  * FromTheInside premi├©re utilisation linux et xchat :x
[00:02] <qwerkus> FromTheInside: ok: envoie un message prive pour ne pas polluer le chan
[00:08] <jcp> erUSUL: I tried that, and now my screen resolution is even smaller (640x480)
[00:09] <erUSUL> jcp: run ┬½ gksudo nvidia-settings ┬╗
[00:09] <jcp> yeah, tried that. I can't find anywhere on there where it lets you change screen resolution
[00:09] <khelvan> Is there a support channel for mencoder?
[00:11] <wilber> hello!!
[00:11] <Carey> Hey there.
[00:11] <erUSUL> jcp: X server Display Configuration
[00:11] <erUSUL> jcp: the second entry on the right column
[00:11] <media`> Im having a weird issue
[00:12] <media`> Im trying to use imgburn in wine, and it cant find any devices
[00:12] <erUSUL> jcp: left side
[00:12] <qwerkus> khelvan: i think they run a mailing list
[00:12] <media`> went into wine config, and drive is detected
[00:12] <qwerkus> khelvan: #mplayer-dev is for developpers only
[00:12] <media`> still no go
[00:12] <erUSUL> jcp: when done click on Save to X configuration file
[00:13] <alokito> media`: are u trying to burn a disk image?
[00:13] <media`> yeah, .dvd file
[00:13] <ingenioushax> How can you make a *.tar.gz2 file an executable?
[00:13] <media`> and image
[00:13] <alokito> media`: linux has nice app to burn dvd
[00:13] <alokito> why not try them?
[00:13] <erUSUL> ingenioushax: you can not. that is basically a zip file
[00:14] <qwerkus>  ingenioushax: why would you want to do that ?
[00:14] <Blizzerand> ingenioushax ; Or do you mean uncompress it
[00:14] <ingenioushax> Yeah.
[00:14] <erUSUL> ingenioushax: what are you trying to do ?
[00:14] <media`> This type of disk has to use imgburn
[00:14] <media`> image I mean, not disk
[00:14] <media`> well its the easiest way anyways
[00:14] <Blizzerand> ingenioushax : Right click and click extract here , thats all , it should all be in a folder
[00:14] <alokito> media`: hmm, ok... still check in k3b and see if it works
[00:14] <cokecan42> does anyone know how to get pigin started?
[00:14] <ingenioushax> Blizzerand: Thanks, ill try it out
[00:15] <qwerkus> cokecan42: it is piDgin
[00:15] <alokito> cokecan42: Alt+F2 pidgin
[00:15] <boscop> oh no. zattoo is no longer supported on linux :(
[00:15] <cokecan42> iv been unable to use it, but I was able to use this, Xchat
[00:17] <alokito> cokecan42: u want to use irc in pidgin?
[00:17] <Blizzerand> cokecan42 : try empathy , people much get confused on using pidGin , to install sudo apt-get install empathy
[00:18] <khelvan> qwerkus - Thanks, I'm looking for help on how to do something in mencoder that I would normally do in ffmpeg (transcode/remux)
[00:18] <cokecan42> empathy is in add ons?
[00:18] <kudi1> whats a simple pdf reader i can install
[00:18] <rainy-day> hi, my ps/2 keyboard stopped working, I'm sure a reboot will fix that, but is there anything i can try to fix it without reboot?
[00:18] <alokito> cokecan42: empathy is a different im client
[00:18] <DopeGhoti>  rainy-day have you tried unplugging it and plugging it back in?
[00:18] <alokito> but I prefer pidgin
[00:19] <cokecan42> ok
[00:19] <rainy-day> DopeGhoti: yep tried that
[00:19] <Blizzerand> !pdf
[00:19] <DopeGhoti> rainy-day: Sumb question, but are you sure you're plugging it into the keyboard, and not the mouse, PS/2 port?
[00:20] <Blizzerand> !pdf|kudi1
[00:20] <rainy-day> DopeGhoti: yep, it worked just a few hours ago, the problem is I think I pressed many keys at once for a few minutes..
[00:20] <kudi1> thanks
[00:20] <DopeGhoti> rainy-day: is it in a terminal?  Try ctrl-Q
[00:20] <kudi1> any1 ever read the 48 laws of power?
[00:20] <KB1JWQ> !ot | kudi1
[00:20] <rainy-day> DopeGhoti: my usb keyboard also stopped working but after unplugging it, it works now
[00:21] <qwerkus>  khelvan: I would first try to google around: there are lots of goods tuts about mencoder. And than try the mailing list: it is not as fast as irc, but I can really help you out !
[00:21] <rainy-day> DopeGhoti: no it's not in a terminal, it's on the same system I'm using now to type, in X
[00:21] <jcp> erUSUL: ok, checked there, it has "auto", "640x480", and "320x240"
[00:22] <DopeGhoti> rainy-day: Hmm.  Sorry, I'm out of ideas for the moment.
[00:22] <DopeGhoti> rainy-day: are the -Lock keys responsive (in terms of the indicators on the keyboard) at all?
[00:22] <Blizzerand> !gok
[00:23] <rainy-day> DopeGhoti: no those keys are not responsive either.. numlock light is on but won't turn off
[00:23] <lyrae> Is there a way to allow bold/italics/color/ text formating in gedit?
[00:24] <dsdeiz> hello, anyone here using dwm? how do i configure it if i get it from the repo?
[00:24] <Blizzerand> !dwn
[00:24] <DopeGhoti> lyrae: gedit is a text esitor, not a text processor, so no.
[00:24] <Blizzerand> !dwm
[00:24] <dsdeiz> !info dwm
[00:24] <lyrae> DopeGhoti: alright
[00:26] <lookyaso> he all i am connecting to a Ubuntu box from XP using VNC however when click on an applications no action is observed from the XP end, however the activity is actually taking place on the ubuntu box real time (hope that makes sense) any ideas why this might be happening?
[00:27] <ndrwc> Can someone explain what the point of backports and updates are?
[00:27] <LjL> ndrwc: having updated packages, i guess?
[00:27] <Blizzerand> lookyaso : Not as a virtual machine , right
[00:27] <lookyaso> Blizzerand: no
[00:27] <ndrwc> LjL, one would think so... so why am I being told "sorry you can't get updates you'll have to use a PPA"?
[00:28] <lookyaso> Blizzerand: that is you are correct
[00:29] <LjL> ndrwc: i don't know, but i know that Updates only carries fixes to serious bugs, and Backports only carries end-user packages which are unlikely to break anything else when installed and which are in the next (development) version
[00:29] <Blizzerand> lookyaso : hmm nevr had any of such probs
[00:29] <DopeGhoti> ndrwc: what are you trying to get updates for?
[00:29] <lookyaso> Blizzerand: i can see my ubuntu desktop but when i click on Applications it does not drop down but on the actual ubuntu box it drooped
[00:30] <ndrwc> LjL, DopeGhoti so if a package has been updated for Karmic one could expect it to be backported to Jaunty? it's the nvidia drivers
[00:30] <lookyaso> Blizzerand: dropped* thanks anyway
[00:31] <Ryiel> Hey, any idea what i should install to get firefox to play youtube videos?
[00:31] <LjL> ndrwc: no, not necessaily. a video driver is hardly an end-user package that's unlikely to break other stuff (actually, quite the contrary)
[00:31] <acwilan> hi, anyone has installed somehow internet explorer in ubuntu? I am a Web developer and need to test my sites on FF/IE/Safari/Opera/Chrome
[00:32] <ndrwc> LjL, but it's a system-critical package and the manufacturer has released a new version to fix critical bugs
[00:32] <kazzy> acwilan: "ies4linux" can possibly do it, but it doesn't seem to work with modern IE versions
[00:32] <LjL> ndrwc: if anything, that will end up in Updates.
[00:32] <acwilan> @kazzy thanks... i'll check it out
[00:33] <Blizzerand> lookyaso : try updating ubuntu system first
[00:33] <ndrwc> LjL, ok, wherever. Is there a page somewhere which explains the difference between backports and updates and whatever?
[00:33] <bigjocker> acwilan, i use ies4linux to install most of IE versions without issue
[00:33] <LjL> ndrwc: i have just explained it, but yes
[00:33] <Blizzerand> lookyaso : Can you do that
[00:33] <LjL> !repositoies | ndrwc
[00:33] <PotterT|VF> any one happen to know how can I switch off compiz in jaunty via a ssh terminal and make it affect a currently running desktop session?
[00:33] <LjL> !repositories | ndrwc
[00:33] <lookyaso> Blizzerand: fresh install
[00:34] <lookyaso> Blizzerand: i am all updated
[00:34] <DopeGhoti> If I wanted to poke around in Karmic in a VM, which VM infrastructure would be a good one to use?
[00:34] <Pici> DopeGhoti : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[00:34] <PotterT|VF> DopeGhoti: vbox
[00:34] <bigjocker> DopeGhoti, virtualbox
[00:34] <ndrwc> LjL, so where do PPAs fit in?
[00:35] <LjL> ndrwc: PPA is just a personal tool for building one's own packages.
[00:35] <ndrwc> they seem completely out of that loop
[00:35] <bigjocker> DopeGhoti, ubuntu runs quite well in virtualbox
[00:35] <DopeGhoti> PotterT|VF, bigjocker: thanks. Pici: Jaunty is my host OS, so it counts here too ;)
[00:35] <LjL> ndrwc: whether you want to use someone else's PPA for some reason, well, that's entirely at your own risk
[00:35] <ndrwc> LjL, right, I don't :) but it was suggested to me that that's what I needed to do....
[00:35] <LjL> ndrwc: it might be, if you really want or need the updated driver now.
[00:36] <LjL> ndrwc: that doesn't make it a good idea, but it might make it the only possible thing to do.
[00:36] <PotterT|VF> any one know how can I switch off compiz in jaunty via a ssh terminal and make it affect a currently running desktop session?
[00:37] <xangua> PotterT|VF: metacity --replace ┬┐
[00:37] <ndrwc> LjL, well I've attempted to request a backport / update / whatever... but a lot of the documentation on how to do that comes from a developer perspective, not an end user perspective
[00:37] <ihatebootloaders> Hello!  I need someone to give me a hand with installing GRUB on to the root partition of a fakeraid, and setting it up.  Currently the LiveCD or Alternate install don't allow a proper install with the bootloader installed to the root partition.
[00:37] <PotterT|VF> xangua: that wont work via ssh, it wants an X session
[00:37] <LjL> ndrwc, you could in theory do two things: 1) report a bug about the driver, 2) request a backport. in reality, neither thing is going to work anyway
[00:38] <PotterT|VF> i'm suffering from the "compiz breaks vino" bug and cannot control my desktop remotely
[00:38] <kazzy> why would you be wanting to replace the window manager if you don't have an X session
[00:38] <LjL> ndrwc: that's because 1) Ubuntu developers haven't really any control on the driver, since it's a closed-source driver and it's hard to ever check for regressions, and 2) this wouldn't really apply for backports (and you can't directly request an Updates update)
[00:38] <Thocrun> #debian-games
[00:39] <kazzy> PotterT|VF: do you need to kill off compiz remotely? you surely can do: DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace &
[00:39] <ndrwc> LjL, so you're saying that once a package is out there it's out there for good???? How come multiple versions of the NVIDIA drivers exist then?
[00:39] <PotterT|VF> kazzy: let me try
[00:39] <LjL> ndrwc: not always, but in the case of the nvidia drivers, yes, pretty much.
[00:39] <DougM> is it possible to change the Ubuntu boot up screen?
[00:39] <kazzy> PotterT|VF: but it's an odd thing to request. just turn off the X server
[00:39] <DopeGhoti> DougM: yes.
[00:40] <kazzy> PotterT|VF: i.e. do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[00:40] <PotterT|VF> kazzy: i have control now via rdp, thanks!!
[00:40] <DougM> DopeGhoti: do you know of a site online where I could find different themes?
[00:40] <kazzy> PotterT|VF: ah, yw. glad that works
[00:40] <PotterT|VF> kazzy: i would have lost the vino session
[00:40] <kazzy> aha
[00:40] <LjL> ndrwc: by the way, other people may suggest using "envyng" rather than using PPA packages.
[00:40] <Lamo> what do you call the user agent switcher at the top right on Ubuntu? Mine crashed and wont load on boot anymore.
[00:40] <DopeGhoti> DougM: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Change-Ubuntu-Bootsplash-Theme-55237.shtml
[00:40] <kazzy> didn't realize you were using rdp though, thought you were using X over ssh
[00:40] <DougM> DopeGhoti: cool thanks a lot.. appreciate it
[00:41] <ndrwc> LjL, ok, suppose I take the position that I trust NVIDIA enough to buy their hardware and use their drivers. Is it really so hard for the Ubuntu package to be updated to reflect that? Anyway I suppose I can try envy again but I thought that checked the repos...
[00:41] <PotterT|VF> kazzy: heh, no worries, thanks for the help!
[00:41] <kazzy> LjL: Envy? I'd suggest just upgrade the thing. Haven't needed envy in ages
[00:41] <obiwan__> please anybody has a new computer (up to 1,5 years) with broadcom wifi chipset not using wifi now?
[00:41] <LjL> ndrwc: do i look like i can push an update through the repositories?
[00:41] <ihatebootloaders> Hello!  I need someone to give me a hand with installing GRUB on to the root partition of a fakeraid, and setting it up.  Currently the LiveCD or Alternate install don't allow a proper install with the bootloader installed to the root partition.  apt-get install grub puts it somewhere, but nothing in /boot other then the kernel images.  grub-install /location/of/partition returns "does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."
[00:42] <LjL> kazzy: define "the thing" please
[00:42] <ndrwc> LjL, no, but perhaps you can tell me how to find out how I can request it without having to be the maintainer :)
[00:42] <kazzy> the Ubuntu install
[00:42] <LjL> ndrwc: i'd say nowhere, really. it just doesn't qualify. but http://bugs.ubuntu.com/
[00:42] <ndrwc> kazzy, right, but karmic isn't out (and is broken)
[00:42] <obiwan__> please anybody has a new computer (up to 1,5 years) with broadcom wifi chipset not using wifi now?
[00:42] <LjL> kazzy: what ndrwc said
[00:42] <kazzy> oh, /jaunty/ doesn't have updated drivers?
[00:42] <kringel> since karmic most applications including wget are resolving hostnames to <IP_ADDRESS> it happened for me in hoary (ubuntu 5.04). no problems since then
[00:43] <ndrwc> kazzy, indeed, but karmic does :( hence I'm attempting this backport  or update or whatever request
[00:43] <DougM> is it possible to install SUM - startup manager through the terminal?
[00:43] <LjL> kringel: ask in #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[00:43] <Tiggers> I have a stupid question, If I have two tabs open in my terminal window, is there a shortcut to go between the two easily?
[00:43] <LtMike> anyone help with setting up a gui for ubuntu server?
[00:43] <kringel> LjL ok thanks
[00:43] <ndrwc> Tiggers, ctrl+pageup
[00:43] <amagee> Tiggers: shift+left, shift+right
[00:43] <LjL> ndrwc: you need to file a bug explaining what's wrong with the drivers. my bet, though, is it'll be marked as fixed in the next version.
[00:43] <tonyyarusso> Tiggers: alt-num
[00:44] <amagee> oh oops i was thinking konsole
[00:44] <kazzy> ndrwc: well, you can always just install the nVidia drivers from the package, though that's not supported
[00:44] <LjL> ndrwc: don't bother fixing a backports request, it isn't going to happen
[00:44] <Tiggers> thanks
[00:44] <LjL> s/fixing/filing/
[00:44] <ndrwc> sigh :(
[00:44] <ubunter> also edit->keyboard shortcuts
[00:44] <Tiggers> alt + num = PWNAGE, thanks!
[00:44] <CRAY-4_> hey guys, i how would i fing a linux user group
[00:44] <CRAY-4_> *find
[00:44] <LjL> ndrwc: you have at least two reasonable options: using envyng and making your own backport
[00:45] <LjL> ndrwc: both are unsupported, but there you go.
[00:45] <kazzy> well, so is nVidia's binary installer, right?
[00:45] <ndrwc> LjL, actually I just tried envyng and it still came up as 180
[00:45] <LjL> kazzy: that's the last route i would take
[00:46] <LjL> ndrwc: how long has the newer version been out?
[00:46] <ndrwc> If karmic was out I'd agree with your suggestion of "use karmic it's never going to happen". But it's not.
[00:46] <kazzy> LjL: doesn't making your own backport entail building it and writing a debian package for it? that can't be any easier
[00:47] <ubunter> how should I make seperate launchers on the top bar to turn apache2 on/off?
[00:47] <LjL> kazzy: easy enough, you get the source package from Karmic and rebuild it.
[00:47] <LjL> kazzy: it's not something i would personally do for a video driver, however.
[00:47] <ndrwc> LjL, since 7th August
[00:47] <DougM> im trying to install start-up manager but keeping getting this error in my Package Installer: "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: python-support(>=0.90.0)".  Is there a way to just install it through terminal?
[00:48] <LjL> ndrwc: uhm, i'd have imagine it would support such a relatively old release.
[00:48] <DougM> nvm i figured it out
[00:48] <ndrwc> LjL, also, there's an entry in the changelog taht reads "automatic backport" for Intrepid. What gives?
[00:48] <LjL> ndrwc: automatic backport of what?
[00:48] <ndrwc> err nvidia 180
[00:48] <ubunter> eg to turn it off I thought putting the command sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop in the command field for the launcher would work but it does nothing
[00:49] <ndrwc> LjL, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 <- quite near the bottom
[00:50] <giros> hi. why fglrx 9.9 driver don not work with 2.6.31 kernel?
[00:50] <ndrwc> anyway gtg
[00:50] <LjL> agh
[00:51] <ihatebootloaders> Hello!  I need someone to give me a hand with installing GRUB on to the root partition of a fakeraid, and setting it up.  Currently the LiveCD or Alternate install don't allow a proper install with the bootloader installed to the root partition.  apt-get install grub puts it somewhere, but nothing in /boot other then the kernel images.  grub-install /location/of/partition returns "does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."
[00:51] <n8tuser> is there an easy way at all to map keycombination  alt_right+y   to echo a string lets say "hello world"  ?
[00:53] <AdamDV> startkeylogger
[00:53] <ubunter> oh i'm supposed to use gksudo instead of sudo
[00:53] <jrib> ubunter: yeah...
[00:53]  * jrib eyes AdamDV
[00:53] <DougM> Im entering sudo dpkg -i startupmanager_1.0.4-1_all.deb into terminal to install startup-manager but I keep getting the following error: "error processing startupmanager_1.0.4-1_all.deb (--install): cannon acces archive: No such file or directory"  Anyone have any idea why its not working?
[00:53]  * AdamDV eyes jrib
[00:54]  * AdamDV assumes no one using ubuntu runs norton ;)
[00:54] <jrib> ubunter: I read you question but was eating and was about to type that to you when you mentioned gksudo
[00:54] <Irving> not much need adam
[00:54] <AdamDV> Haha, I know.
[00:54] <jrib> AdamDV: you're assuming only people using ubuntu use this channel though!
[00:54] <AdamDV> Well, it is #ubuntu ..
[00:55] <Irving> in actually here on a vista laptop
[00:55] <sadiq_> any channel related to karmic ??
[00:55] <AdamDV> not #microsoft-and-affiliated-symantec-products
[00:55] <Irving> isntalling xp on my desktop
[00:55] <Irving> and let me tell you
[00:55] <AdamDV> Irving: I apologize then, if you are running norton :)
[00:55] <Irving> its making me appreciate ubuntu a lot
[00:55] <AdamDV> Haha
[00:55] <AdamDV> Yeah
[00:55] <AirBender> sadiq_: #ubuntu+1
[00:55] <xangua> sadiq_: #ubuntu+1
[00:55] <Flannel> AdamDV: Malice isn't appropriate regardless of operating system.
[00:55] <Irving> actually i do have norton on my laptop
[00:55] <kazzy> then why are you just appreciating, not using?
[00:55] <Irving> oh i am
[00:55] <Irving> its on its partitions
[00:56] <Irving> but for the usuall reason, I want to have XP
[00:56] <Irving> but I don't have my cd
[00:56] <Irving> so I found a copy I made of one of the 1st versions
[00:56] <Irving> and it accepted my legit serial which is for sp2
[00:56] <Irving> but things are weird now
[00:56] <Irving> installed cideo card driver, went to 4bit color and very small resolution
[00:57] <ubunter> irving: I hosed a mail stack install, makes me pine for exchange :/
[00:57] <Irving> so now im getting the latest driver, hopefully it will work (i had a slightly older driver backed up)
[00:57] <kazzy> ubunter: postfix is really that bad?
[00:57] <Irving> i don't follow ubunter?
[00:58] <ubunter> you were saying about windows things being a hassle
[00:58] <kazzy> heh, computers are a hassle
[00:58] <joe_____> Testing
[00:58] <ubunter> I think I missed a puntuation mark somewhere and now can't install or uninstall mail related things
[00:58] <Irving> oh
[00:59] <ubunter> good thing I have a data partition :)
[00:59] <Irving> im puting XP on primarily for using photoshop cs3, i heard it was very difficult to run on ubuntu
[00:59] <Irving> but other than that, i think i'll be using ubuntu most of the time
[00:59] <Irving> its so much nicer
[01:00] <Lamo> fast-user-switch-applet wont load on boot for me, anyone know the command so i can start it manually?
[01:00] <jrib> Lamo: maybe it's an applet?
[01:01] <Lamo> so how do i run it
[01:01] <kazzy> Irving: you can always just install in VirtualBox, then you won't have the graphics issues
[01:01] <jrib> Lamo: right click -> add to panel -> ?
[01:01] <Irving> i did see that
[01:02] <Lamo> >_> ok got it thanks
[01:02] <Irving> im sure there will be other things i need XP for
[01:02] <Irving> but of course not by my chosing, just because a lot of times I need homemade software and stuff made only for windows
[01:03] <n8tuser> is there an easy way at all to map key combination  alt_right+y   to echo a string lets say "hello world"  ?
[01:03] <Irving> hey i do have a quick ubuntu question, I installed the microsoft font package, and restarted, and firefox is still using ubuntu fonts
[01:04] <xangua> Irving: sis>prefs>appearence
[01:05] <Irving> i think i checked there, i'll check again once im up in ubuntu agai
[01:05] <Irving> need to reinstall grub, wish me luck hopefully i'll be able to get into XP and ubuntu without trouble
[01:07] <Irving> does anyone who has multi OS, have a nice screen to select OS or does everyone have just the plain text options
[01:07] <BrianTM> You can get low res backgrounds for grub
[01:07] <Irving> hmm
[01:07] <BrianTM> there are also graphical bootloaders available
[01:07] <Irving> ah cool
[01:07] <Irving> thats what I was thinking
[01:07] <BrianTM> the grub backgrounds are .xpm files if memory serves
[01:08] <Irving> nice widescreen wallpaper, with the windows and ubunto logo
[01:08] <BrianTM> I beleive the next version of ubuntu will have a graphical bootloader
[01:08] <Irving> cool
[01:08] <BrianTM> or at least, it is a feature that is being looked at
[01:08] <Irving> would it show windows in its list
[01:08] <kazzy> grub backgrounds aren't quite the same thing
[01:08] <BrianTM> dont know how customizable that will be
[01:09] <BrianTM> yes, it will show all bootable OSs on the system
[01:09] <Irving> cool
[01:09] <Irving> i'll have to look into some of the graphical boot loaders
[01:09] <kazzy> personally, though, the bootloader is like the system console. I want to see it for less time, no matter how shiny it is
[01:09] <Irving> true
[01:09] <Irving> i need to get grub back soon, does it usually show XP and ubuntu
[01:10] <kazzy> GRUB in graphical mode seems rather slow, especially if you need to input commands
[01:10] <Irving> i have ubuntu installed first, and i just put XP on
[01:10] <BrianTM> here are a few grub splash screens http://www.queervisions.com/2007/9-grub-splash-images/
[01:10] <BrianTM> you will have to fix the GRUB with a live cd
[01:10] <BrianTM> installing xp after ubuntu breaks GRUB on you. Easy enough to fix though
[01:11] <BrianTM> hang on a sec and i'll find you a guide on how
[01:12] <kazzy> BrianTM: ubuntu didn't break grub, windows XP did
[01:13] <yitz_> Waaaay bit off topic, but can anyone suggest a CLI calendar/schedule app for Linux? Not emacs user. (My distro channel isn't garnering me much)
[01:13] <trism> kazzy: I think that's (installing xp after ubuntu) breaks grub, not installing xp (after ubuntu breaks grub)
[01:13] <kazzy> trism: yeah I'm too sleepy and dyslexic, thanks
[01:14] <DopeGhoti> yitz_: I saw something regarding that on lifehacker a while ago
[01:14] <BrianTM> Irving: http://apcmag.com/the_definitive_dualbooting_guide_linux_vista_and_xp_stepbystep.htm
[01:14] <lorenzo> hi, i dont get any sound out of mplayer. everything else works. i dont know how to fix it. thanks
[01:14] <DopeGhoti> yitz_: I could also see weapping a todo file and cal around some python in your .profile
[01:14] <yitz_> They had a CLI todo app. I'm looking for a more calendar/schedule thing
[01:15] <Irving> ty brian
[01:16] <dekkong> Hello!
[01:16] <BrianTM> Irving: np, you have most of that done, so just scroll down to the repairing GRUB section on the relevant page
[01:16] <harisund> So I want to use Gnome / Ubuntu. Please don't tell me to use xubuntu or LowMemoryBuntu or whatever ..but I would like to reduce the memory footprint. Any suggestions? Use a different window manager?
[01:16] <DopeGhoti> yitz_: getting a bit offtopic, write yourself a TSV or CSV appointment list, and cook up a script to parse 'cal' and/or 'date' to tell you if anything's coming up
[01:17] <yitz_> DopeGhoti: Possibly. This looks like it might go somewhere: http://freshmeat.net/projects/pal
[01:17] <BrianTM> harisund: you could try using Openbox instead of Metacity as your WM, but if your willing to reinstall, you could do a minimal Gnome install from the mini ISO
[01:17] <evon>  I am trying to download some torrents with transimission but I cannot seem to find an open port. can anyone tell me how to find one?
[01:18] <harisund> BrianTM: that's what I am looking forward to. How do I do this "minimal Gnome install"? (And I assume you mean server when you say mini ISO?)
[01:18] <thahauss> Hi guys, I'm using compiz with AWN and I'm trying to get my AWN to launch of my primary screen, i searched google and learned to type "DISPLAY=":0.1" /usr/bin/avant-window-navigator & , im getting the error "unable to open display" please help!
[01:18] <Irving> Brain, I was given this guide earlier for reinstalling grub
[01:18] <yitz_> gtg bbl
[01:18] <Irving> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[01:18] <nemesis1911> I got a issue playing mp3s... they work in mplayer  and nothing else ,, and when I try to use Rythymbox it crapps out my computer plese help ... :-(
[01:18] <Irving> i'm not sure where grub was originall installed
[01:19] <trashnoworks> hey all, I'm on a new install jaunty 9.04 and the trash folder doesn't work - there are no files in the trash container. path is trash:///, but no files show up. /home/nick/.local/share/Trash has the files and the .info for each. Tried uninstalling and reinstalilng gnome-apps, did not fix. Can anyone offer some guidance plz?
[01:19] <BrianTM> Irving: how many hard drives do you have on your pc?
[01:19] <Irving> just 1
[01:19] <BrianTM> harisund: i'll grab you a link in a minute
[01:19] <Irving> so i guess hd0 is fine? i was thinking that the multiple partions might cause issues
[01:19] <BrianTM> I dont think it matters what partition you reintall grub back onto. hang on and ill give that tutorial a quick look
[01:20] <harisund> Sure thing BrianTM thanks a ton
[01:20] <Irving> k ty
[01:21] <Irving> wow, I just placed a cd in my drive on top of another cd, it made an awful sound
[01:21] <BrianTM> I think 0 will be fine. Im no expert, anyone else here able to tell me if Im giving bad advice?
[01:21] <nemesis1911> can anyone tell me why my computer crashes when I use Rythymbox .. (my mouse stops workin' and then it just totally crashes ?)
[01:21] <BrianTM> I presume you installed ubuntu to the star t of your disk?
[01:21] <Irving> partitions 1 and 2
[01:22] <BrianTM> the first partition is your linux file system
[01:22] <Irving> there are 4 total
[01:22] <BrianTM> 2 is swap or home?
[01:22] <Irving> yes
[01:22] <Irving> 2 is swap
[01:22] <FloodBot2> Irving: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:22] <BrianTM> k, cool
[01:22] <BrianTM> go for 0
[01:22] <KB1JWQ> BrianTM: Boot sector of the drive.
[01:22] <BrianTM> should be fine
[01:22] <Irving> k ty
[01:23] <BrianTM> so you can follow the instructions in that guide as is
[01:23] <Irving> ok thanks brian
[01:24] <BrianTM> harisund: sorry, nearly forgot about you, looking now
[01:24] <BrianTM> I have it bookmarked i think
[01:26] <rootlinuxusr> How can I achieve this, http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u297/akita11/Capture-1.jpg in Ubuntu?
[01:26] <BrianTM> crap... he left before i got him the link
[01:26] <himuraken> Good evening, I am looking into purchasing a newer mobo/cpu. I am thinking AMD Phenom X4 etc. Are there any clearly known issues with 9.04 running on these newer chipsets?
[01:26] <thahauss> Hi guys, I'm using compiz with AWN and I'm trying to get my AWN to launch of my primary screen, i searched google and learned to type "DISPLAY=":0.1" /usr/bin/avant-window-navigator & , im getting the error "unable to open display" please help!
[01:26] <himuraken> I am thinking of critical things like NIC's and onboard disk controllers etc.
[01:27] <Irving> would it make any difference if I use a kubuntu live cd, my ubuntu cd stopped working
[01:28] <decoywolf> disconnect
[01:29] <Flannel> Irving: to reinstall GRUB? no, won't make a significant difference
[01:30] <Irving> ok thanks, i think i can do it though using my live thumb drive
[01:30] <Irving> im not convinced my CD drive is messed royally
[01:30] <BrianTM> Yeah, the live thumb drive will be fine
[01:30] <Irving> *now convinced
[01:30] <BrianTM> est of luck
[01:30] <Irving> thank you
[01:31] <Irving> every OS install i did with cds got messed up, even the new XP one has many DLL errors
[01:31] <Irving> but at least i can fix those
[01:31] <Irving> only ubuntu, installed from thumb drive is working
[01:31] <Irving> or fully working
[01:31] <BrianTM> would a dodgey cd drive give you dll errors?
[01:31] <BrianTM> or do you mean missing files during the install process?
[01:31] <Irving> idk, but maybe some of them weren't copied
[01:32] <Irving> no it looked like a clean install
[01:32] <Irving> but i had multiple other bad installs from good cds
[01:32] <BrianTM> I cant be sure, but I doubt thats from a dodgey cd drive
[01:32] <Irving> good kubuntu cd, wouldn't install, good ubuntu cd, wouldn't install, and a different xp cd wouldn't do it either
[01:32] <BrianTM> I thought xp install would fail if there were missing dlls, or at least prompt you
[01:33] <Irving> yea me too, it didn't say anything though
[01:33] <Irving> maybe its ok
[01:33] <BrianTM> hopefully
[01:33] <Irving> other than a few dll errors on boot, its runing fine
[01:33] <BrianTM> you should clone the drive once you have it up and running, but before you install extra software
[01:33] <Irving> but even just now, i couldn't load ubuntu live off cd
[01:33] <BrianTM> so you can just restore the partition instead of reinstaling xp next time
[01:33] <Irving> yea thats a good idea
[01:34] <Irving> alright i'll be back, reinstalling grub wish me luck
[01:34] <BrianTM> Clonezilla live cd will do that for you. thats what I use anyway. Loadds of options oout there for cloning
[01:34] <Irving> then im going to get some grub hehe
[01:34] <BrianTM> good luck
[01:34] <rootlinuxusr> http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u297/akita11/Capture-1.jpg how can i do this in Ubuntu 9.04?
[01:36] <hamad> hi
[01:36] <Hillshum> Anyone know anything about the dict protocol? I'm trying to get a server running for when I'm offline
[01:36] <BrianTM> rootlinuxusr: dont know I'm afraid... though most of the music players support albumart
[01:37] <rootlinuxusr> right. But how do I have folder previews?
[01:37] <rootlinuxusr> like... XP had folder.jpg/png
[01:38] <rootlinuxusr> is there a naming convention...or?
[01:38] <BrianTM> dont know, sorry
[01:38] <Hillshum> rootlinuxusr: Have you tried folder.jpg ?
[01:39] <justin-_> Hello
[01:39] <rootlinuxusr> Yup same partition, GRUB'd into Ubuntu. No cheese.
[01:41] <Irving> didn't work out well
[01:41] <Irving> i got grub installed, it booted into ubuntu
[01:42] <Irving> i followed the steps, or so I thought, to make windows appear
[01:42] <Irving> and now it says invalid system disk
[01:42] <BrianTM> Ah, ok
[01:42] <BrianTM> how many partitions on your hd
[01:42] <BrianTM> 4 you said?
[01:42] <Irving> 4
[01:42] <beans43> why people say "alarm goes off" to mean the alarm clock rings?
[01:42] <Irving> yep
[01:43] <BrianTM> what are they - linux sys + swap + ? + XP
[01:43] <BrianTM> (the order is important
[01:43] <thahauss> Hi guys, I'm using compiz with AWN and I'm trying to get my AWN to launch of my primary screen, i searched google and learned to type "DISPLAY=":0.1" /usr/bin/avant-window-navigator & , im getting the error "unable to open display" please help!
[01:43] <Irving> linux, swap, xp, empty
[01:43] <BrianTM> ok
[01:43] <BrianTM> so you want to put the following into the grub entry:
[01:43] <BrianTM> root   (hd0,2)
[01:44] <BrianTM> is that what you have in?
[01:44] <Irving> h/o
[01:44] <BrianTM> (with all the other stuff from that tutorial)
[01:47] <Guest16579> hey i have a bad cpu and i need a screen recorder that wont take all the cpu
[01:47] <sanguinoso> get a better cpu
[01:47] <kansan> looking for a good sound card for my home pc running ubuntu jaunty.  i have a pci express and pci slot available.  ideally it would support 4.1 channels.  ideas?
[01:47] <Guest16579> recordmydesktop takes 90% and slows down everything
[01:48] <black> what's the best way to encrypt a flat file in ubuntu for free?
[01:49] <Blazt> Hey
[01:49] <xcs-live> Hey :)
[01:50] <tonyyarusso> !gpg | black
[01:50] <Irving> you still here brian?
[01:50] <BrianTM> yup
[01:50] <Hansard> I uninstalled a program that had an old version in the ubuntu repositories and added a PPA to my sources and added the key. How do I install the version from the ppa? Do I just go add/remove and add the program from there again?
[01:50] <Irving> sorry i got a phone call
[01:50] <BrianTM> np
[01:50] <Irving> what were you saying, im back in live thumb drive to edit file again
[01:50] <black> tonyyarusso, ubottu: thansk
[01:51] <Irving> all i did was uncomment the windows example
[01:51] <BrianTM> careful now...
[01:51] <BrianTM> no
[01:51] <BrianTM> you need to change the address to hd (0,2)
[01:51] <Blazt> Has anyone every installed fluid on mac... I can not get my script to make the twitter page to update after i install the script
[01:51] <BrianTM> to tell it what partition to find xp in
[01:51] <Irving> but its on partition 3
[01:51] <BrianTM> aye - partition 1 is 0,0, 2 is 0,1 etc
[01:52] <pokrmessiah> does anyone here know what the deal is with growisofs and DL DVDs? I scoured the goog and forums for answers and it seems everyone has opinions, but no definite answers
[01:52] <phaer> When i try to activate the option "Share my keys with others on my network" in seahorse ("Password and Encryption Keys") i just get the error message "Couldn't share keys\n Can't publish discovery information on the network.". Feeding google with this message did not help so far. Any ideas? Where should i look?
[01:52] <histo> Hansard: if you just add/remove the program it should pull the updated one from the ppa now
[01:52] <Hansard> histo: thank you. :)
[01:52] <BrianTM> and make sure you're not editing the live's menu.lst... make sure its the file from the hd partition
[01:53] <BrianTM> though im sure you know that seeing as you got that error before
[01:53] <Irving> hmm
[01:53] <histo> Hansard: it should always try to pull the most up to date package availible
[01:53] <Irving> well i accessed using sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:53] <Irving> and now i opened it again, now its empty
[01:53] <ihatebootloaders> Hello!  I need help installing and setting grub, on the root partition, while under a fakeraid (dmraid) environment.  Thanks in advance!
[01:53] <BrianTM> When you rebooted you got the windows grub entry, right? and when you chose it you got the error?
[01:54] <Irving> no it didn't give me either windows or ubuntu
[01:54] <Irving> invaild boot disk
[01:54] <Evelina> I'm trying to get Conky to work with RSS. It seems that the links isn├żt clickable. Isn├żt it possible to display links in Conky that you're able to click on?
[01:54] <justin-_> The skript work great in mac and everything it looks like a real web app ...just twitter stay still dont update or dislay notifications...booh
[01:54] <Blazt> he skript work great in mac and everything it looks like a real web app ...just twitter stay still dont update or dislay notifications...booh
[01:54] <BrianTM> so you couldnt boot to either xp or ubuntu from the hd?
[01:54] <Irving> nope
[01:54] <Irving> i said hit any key to continue or something
[01:55] <Irving> but it just kept coming back to the same invalid boot disk error
[01:55] <Wicked> is it safe to rm -rf a linux-source directory in /usr/src? i compiled a kernel and now that folder is using around 5 gigs of space....and on a 10 gig hard drive...thats *alot* of space to have wasted
[01:55] <BrianTM> thinking... :/
[01:56] <Irving> i see what you said, it makes sense it should have been hd (0, 2) but now the empty file is a problem
[01:56] <Jeruvy> Wicked: if you are in the directory in question it would be ok, or specify it in the rm command
[01:56] <Irving> maybe i should redo the top part for installing grub
[01:57] <|rt|> does the video on this post work for anyone? http://www.sharms.org/blog/2009/09/16/creating-a-virtual-machine-using-ubuntu-kvm-builder/
[01:57] <Wicked> Jeruvy, so its safe to rm that directory?
[01:57] <BrianTM> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst wont work for you from the live thumb, as your editing the live's menu.lst... not the important one on your hd. When you reinstaled grub that should have made your pc boot straight back into your hd ubuntu install
[01:57] <BrianTM> you sure its on the first partition? you can open the partition editor in the live thumb to doublecheck
[01:57] <Jeruvy> Wicked: if you don't want it, sure.
[01:58] <BrianTM> So yes, redo the top part of the tutorial, then reboot your system with the thumb drive and any cds removed
[01:58] <Wicked> well i was just unsure as i noticed that /usr/src/linux is a sym link to the directory using al the space. i know i needed to make the sym link to compile the kernel....but was unsure if it needed to remain.
[01:58] <Irving> ok yea
[01:59] <Irving> sda1 ext3
[01:59] <Irving> sda2 linux-swap
[01:59] <Irving> sda3 ntfs
[01:59] <musikgoat> !pastebin | Irving
[01:59] <aspoor> wow awsome I love Ubuntu
[01:59] <Irving> and 4 is just a fat32 for future use
[02:00] <Jeruvy> Wicked: if there are symlinks you should delete those first.  And make sure nothing in that directory is needed.
[02:00] <BrianTM> hopefully when you redo the tutorial you will boot to your ubuntu hd install
[02:00] <Irving> ok i'll try that
[02:00] <redbean> Hello, I have been using Ubuntu for about 3 hours now, but I can not play anything coz I have to mount an iso to play a game, how do I use poweriso? its installed and all, but cant start the program
[02:01] <Wicked> Jeruvy, ok. so just to make sure im making it clear... the folder /usr/src/linux points to /usr/src/linux-source<kerenl version>/. ive built the kernel from that and i can now rm -rf both /usr/src/linux and /usr/src/linux-source<kernel version> ??
[02:01] <BrianTM> Irving: just curious, do you have this irc session open on a seporate pc?
[02:02] <Irving> yes
[02:02] <BrianTM> k, i shouldnt have had to ask that seeing as you weren't disconnecting  :|
[02:02] <Irving> reinstalled grub on first partition
[02:02] <Irving> ah i still go the invalid system disk
[02:03] <BrianTM> ok, remove all media, usb + cd, and reboot
[02:03] <Jeruvy> Wicked: If you complied the kernel, then you should keep the version you compiled, otherwise yes.  Whether you need the source at this stage I'm not certain, probably better to ask in #linux
[02:03] <BrianTM> crap
[02:03] <BrianTM> do you see a grub window before that
[02:03] <Wicked> Jeruvy, hmm ok. thanks
[02:03] <AdamDV> Hey, whats the ssh tunnel command?
[02:03] <redbean> So.. is it even possible to use poweriso/mount programs in ubuntu?
[02:03] <AdamDV> I'm trying to tunnel into my server to use phpmyadmin.
[02:03] <Irving> well i think the first time, i made the same mistake as in the menu.lst file and I used hd(0,1)
[02:03] <AdamDV> I want local port 80 to go to remote port 80
[02:03] <Irving> but it got me to where it would boot into the HD ubuntu
[02:03] <AdamDV> Any ideas?
[02:04] <musikgoat> AdamDV: ssh -L 80:localhost:80 user@ip
[02:04] <BrianTM> when, before you were talking to me?
[02:04] <Irving> no the first time i did the first half of tutorial
[02:04] <AdamDV> Thanks
[02:04] <Irving> i'm pretty sure I used hd(0,1) with those two commands
[02:05] <BrianTM> so it gave you grub and didnt error, and you got into your hd install?
[02:05] <Irving> yes
[02:05] <BrianTM> I thought you got the system error that time too?
[02:05] <Irving> no the 1st time it worked properly, just didn't show XP
[02:05] <Irving> then i went to the next part of tutorial, and thats when everything went nutty
[02:06] <BrianTM> I'm genuinely confused. That sounds like GRUB got installed to the swap partition
[02:06] <Irving> thats what I think
[02:06] <BrianTM> hd(0,1) would be sda2
[02:06] <Irving> but when it was, i did work
[02:07] <BrianTM> madness
[02:07] <Irving> it is lol
[02:07] <Irving> tried to do it again, "Couldn't mount partiton"
[02:08] <BrianTM> what do you see just before that?
[02:08] <Irving> so maybe I didn't do that, but now i'm still stuck
[02:08] <Irving> setup (hd0,1)
[02:08] <BrianTM> oh, right, I misunderstood you, ok
[02:09] <Evelina> What is the best way to show clickable feeds on desktop?
[02:09] <Irving> so its not installing on swap space, i just did it on partition one and it still gives me invaild boot disk error
[02:09] <bruenig> feed reader
[02:09] <BrianTM> In the partition editor, look at the flags on the partitions, both the linux and xp partitions should have boot flags
[02:10] <BrianTM> that might be it
[02:10] <Irving> oh jeez
[02:10] <BrianTM> if the linux one isnt flagged as boot, do that, and then try to reinstall grub again
[02:10] <Irving> the only partitio nthat has boot under the flags is the unused 4th partion :(
[02:11] <BrianTM> ok, so right click on the first
[02:11] <BrianTM> manage flags  and check boot
[02:11] <Irving> ok, what about lba
[02:11] <n8tuser> is there an easy way at all to map key combination  alt_right+y   to echo a string lets say "hello world"  ?
[02:11] <BrianTM> lba?
[02:12] <turbopirat> Hi, is there any way to make a symbolic link to a server through samba? I want to be able to browse the files on the server on the other end of the room as if they were on my computer, and I can't access the files on that server through file-open and -save dialogs, and I'd very much like to.
[02:12] <Irving> idk, it is the other flag on the unused partition
[02:12] <BrianTM> dont worry about the unused partition for now
[02:12] <centaur5> Can a MySQL and PostgreSQL database be retrieved even if you can't chroot into the Ubuntu install to use mysqldump?
[02:12] <BrianTM> just set the ubuntu partition to boot
[02:12] <BrianTM> then try to install grub to it again
[02:12] <n8tuser> turbopirat-> look into using fusesmb to mount a remote directory locally
[02:12] <BrianTM> make sure to apply the changes in the partition editor before trying the grub thing
[02:13] <turbopirat> n8tuser: thank you, i'll look into in
[02:13] <turbopirat> it*
[02:13] <Irving> ok this time it went through the install of grub
[02:13] <Irving> but it said that something failed
[02:13] <|rt|> turbopirat: another option is if you browse ther first and set it as a bookmark....if you visit it first you can access it through ~/.gvfs/
[02:13] <BrianTM> can you tell me what it said failed?
[02:14] <|rt|> turbopirat: the bookmark just makes it easier to go back in the future
[02:14] <Irving> h/o trying to see if it will boot to hd
[02:14] <lex_alex81> quit
[02:14] <BrianTM> ok
[02:14] <turbopirat> |rt|: but can i access it through dialogs that way?
[02:15] <|rt|> yes...as long as you've gone there a head of time to make sure it's mounted
[02:15] <turbopirat> |rt|: i got one folder on the server bookmarked but it doesn't show up when i'm opening/saving files via the dialogs
[02:15] <Irving> no dice, i'll go through the grub install again and show you what it says
[02:15] <|rt|> turbopirat: yeah go to the bookmark first....after you go there it should show up in the .gvfs folder
[02:16] <turbopirat> |rt|: ok thanks :)
[02:16] <|rt|> extra step but it does work
[02:16] <BrianTM> what happened when you rebooted?
[02:16] <v3ritas> i'm trying to use the zip command on a linux device, with an excluded directory but after i hit Enter, i get "zip warning: name not matched" for the excluded directory
[02:16] <Irving> same thing, invalid boot disk
[02:17] <Irving> press any key, then it says invalid boot disk again and has me press enter, just goes through that loop over and over
[02:17] <chris-dowle> where is the audio burner in rhythmbox?
[02:17] <sunshinepants> chris-dowle: it uses brasero
[02:17] <BrianTM> feck. Is it a fresh ubuntu install? might be easier just to reinstall it?
[02:18] <sunshinepants> chris-dowle: which btw may or may not detect a blank cdr.. think that was fixed, though
[02:18] <Irving> well, i have a few things customized already
[02:18] <Irving> mainly a video card driver that took a long time to install
[02:18] <BrianTM> (its always easier installing ubuntu after xp... i just hope xp is still bootable!!!)
[02:18] <|rt|> does the video on this post work for anyone? http://www.sharms.org/blog/2009/09/16/creating-a-virtual-machine-using-ubuntu-kvm-builder/
[02:18] <Irving> hmm, the flag is gone now
[02:18] <Irving> the flag on the ubuntu partition
[02:18] <BrianTM> and you definitely applied the change?
[02:19] <sunshinepants> |rt|: yep
[02:19] <|rt|> I'm using firefox...the message seems imply that my web browser doesn't support embedded videos
[02:19] <justin__> Hello!
[02:19] <BrianTM> I just booted up my dual boot laptop
[02:19] <iPfaffy> |rt|, not for me, and i am using firefox
[02:19] <n8tuser> is there an easy way at all to map key combination  alt_right+y   to echo a string lets say "hello world"  ?
[02:19] <|rt|> sunshinepants: I wonder if it's one of my plugins
[02:19] <sunshinepants> |rt|: works w ff 3.5.3
[02:19] <Jyxt> |rt|: whats the message?
[02:20] <BrianTM> it has xp and linux on it... but in the partition manager the xp part is the only one with boot on it.
[02:20] <|rt|> Jyxt: says If you canŌĆÖt see the video directly above this, you are not running a web browser that supports embedded videos (or you are seeing this on a planet).
[02:20] <BrianTM> you could try to install grub on the xp partition
[02:20] <BrianTM> which would be hd(0,2)
[02:20] <Irving> ok
[02:20] <sunshinepants> |rt|: Shockwave Flash 10.0 r32
[02:20] <Jyxt> |rt|: hrm...never seen taht before, i would guess thats not a mozilla message but a site specific message
[02:21] <cagonto> online boxing game http://www.kobox.org/kobox-fande-Nourine.html
[02:21] <SeligArkin> Is there any known memory problems with X and gnome? X is using 352M, gnome panels are 147M each, and nautilus is also up there (forget the exact number) All this according to htop's VIRT column. If these figures are correect it will explain why my laptop has been going slowly lately.
[02:21] <BrianTM> I'm not sure that is going to work... may be something messed up in the MBR, and my knowledge is fairly weak there.
[02:21] <ratapoil> I need to reenable hal-polling, but when I do hal-disable-polling --device /dev/cdrom --enable it says Cannot find storage device /dev/cdrom
[02:21] <cretep1950> can anyone tell me how to install Lotus Notes client on Ubuntu using Wine?
[02:21] <lobak> how can i set an ip address to network interface and make it permanent without change on boot and etc
[02:21] <Irving> "cannot mount selected partiton)
[02:21] <|rt|> Jyxt: yeah it's definitely site specific....I just didn't understand why I was seeing it
[02:21] <Jyxt> |rt|: using something like noscript?
[02:21] <blazt> Hi
[02:21] <sebsebseb> !hi |  blazt
[02:23] <|rt|> Jyxt: that's what I thought at first too but don't have no script running on my machine here at home for some reason....I normally run it though
[02:23] <aliendude5300> cretep1950: That's easy. Get rid of Lotus Notes client and get Zimbra Open Source edition. http://www.zimbra.com/ :P
[02:23] <n8tuser> lobak-> man interfaces and mod the /etc/network/interfaces file
[02:23] <BrianTM> Im running out of ideas. I think at this stage if it was my machine, I would boot an XP install disk and go into the repair section, then fix the MBR, then check xp boots ok, then back to the live thumb, then try installing grub again (as it worked the first time)
[02:23] <|rt|> Jyxt: trying firefox in safe mode now
[02:23] <BrianTM> long process
[02:23] <Irving> the error when installing to hd(0,0) is Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0,0)"... failed (this is not fatal)
[02:23] <iPfaffy> lobak: http://codesnippets.joyent.com/posts/show/319
[02:23] <cretep1950> Wait a min, does the Zimbra client connect to the Lotus Notes server?
[02:23] <blazt> anyone know if you can trip boot ubuntu right now i have a macbook with win7 running in bootcamp (dont use it) and I am using linux in vmware ... it works fine but i dunno I would rather install it
[02:23] <|rt|> Jyxt: hmm no dice....very odd
[02:23] <ihatebootloaders> How can I find out my drive geometry, without rebooting?  (cylinders, heads, sectors)
[02:24] <BrianTM> i dont know what that means, sorry
[02:24] <|rt|> guess I'll fire up my xp vm to see if that works
[02:24] <iPfaffy> BrianTM: you could also try booting from a BartPE and fixing the mbr from there
[02:24] <Irving> ok thank you
[02:24] <Jyxt> ihatebootloaders: fdisk?
[02:24] <Jyxt> fdisk -l lists all yoru drives/partitions etc
[02:24] <obiwan_> hi, in my system/prefs/screen resolution, when i connect a monitor to my laptop i got 3 screens. My laptop's, the true monitor, and "unkown". What the........... is that? i' can't get rid of it, why the .... i have three monitors? i have never, ever connected a third monitor. Why then i have 3?
[02:24] <abcdefg> why is this sudo rm -rf / about?
[02:24] <Irving> i'll try what you said, repair XP install then try to redo everything
[02:24] <abcdefg> what*
[02:24] <ihatebootloaders> Jyxt that shows sectors\blocks.
[02:24] <|rt|> cretep1950: we run
[02:24] <|rt|> er damn enter button
[02:24] <sebsebseb> !danger |  abcdefg
[02:25] <blazt> Can you put in a ubuntu disk when bootcamp in mac ask you for a window cd?
[02:25] <iPfaffy> abcdefg: it will erase your entire hard drive
[02:25] <BrianTM> you know how? boot xp disc, hit R, then fixmbr from the command prompt
[02:25] <|rt|> cretep1950: we run Zimbra at work....but never tried using the offline client with lotus
[02:25] <Jyxt> ihatebootloaders: fdisk -l is showing me 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1215 cylinders
[02:25] <Jyxt> etc etc
[02:25] <bef0rd> hey, I'm trying to configure bind, it seems to be working locally when I use nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> in my resolv.conf, however, when testing it outside of my lan, it doesn't work, any help?
[02:25] <ratapoil> My CD-ROM drive stopped working. I did a hal-disable-device a few days ago. now when I try to reenable it it says cannot find storage device! what can I do?
[02:25] <BrianTM> Its nearly 2.30AM here so wont be on much longer.
[02:25] <aliendude5300> cretep1950: I know it works with Exchange server, not sure about Lotus notes...
[02:25] <blazt> I have wine installed and macports so i can use most linux apps but i would rather install it natievly
[02:26] <ihatebootloaders> Jyxt: mine doesn't >.<
[02:26] <Irving> ok goodnight, thanks for your help
[02:26] <obiwan_> good night irving
[02:26] <iPfaffy> bef0rd: what error does it give?
[02:26] <cretep1950> Lotus Note suses all sorts of encryption, client can connect to server from anywhere using TCP/IP
[02:26] <Irving> lol i'm not leaving yet, saying gnight to brian
[02:26] <SeligArkin> Nobody knows about any known issues regarding memory usage?
[02:26] <Jyxt> ihatebootloaders: does fdisk -l give you anything?
[02:27] <iPfaffy> SeligArkin: I'm not aware of any
[02:27] <ihatebootloaders> Yep, sectors\cylinders.
[02:27] <cretep1950> Somewhere i read that Notes works ok with Wine but I don't know first thing about setting it up...
[02:27] <SeligArkin> iPfaffy: X and Gnome have been really abusing my laptop's memory
[02:27] <ratapoil> how can I list installed devices?
[02:27] <ihatebootloaders> Jyxt: err..start\end\blocks.
[02:27] <bef0rd> iPfaffy, it only resolves the domains that are on my zone, however, other domains (such as google.com) stop working
[02:27] <Jyxt> ihatebootloaders: hrm...i dont know then :P
[02:27] <BrianTM> not going quite yet, but soon :)
[02:28] <Jyxt> mien is showing detailed info...im on gentoo though, but fdisk should be the same across distro's
[02:28] <iPfaffy> bef0rd: can you private paste your bind config?
[02:28] <bef0rd> iPfaffy, I've already added the zone . with the root-servers, also enabled forwarders with opendns
[02:28] <Irving> ok
[02:28] <e-jat> can this bug 398214 assign to someone?
[02:28] <blazt> how do I pull up a list of channels??
[02:28] <iPfaffy> hm
[02:28] <Irving> i might just start all over
[02:28] <bef0rd> iPfaffy, ok
[02:28] <aliendude5300> cretep1950: might be worth a try with Zimbra, since that doesnt require Wine to run... then if it doesnt work, I'd try using Wine
[02:28] <Irving> do xp then ubuntu, but then i'd have to go through the somewhat long process of installing the video card driver
[02:28] <iPfaffy> SeligArkin: google help you any? and how many virtual desktops are you runnning?
[02:28] <histo> blazt: list of channels on what irc?
[02:28] <cretep1950> ok i will look into zimbra, never heard of it, but hey....
[02:29] <BrianTM> Dont reinstall ubuntu without fixing XPs booting, because if you did, and then had to fixmbr for xp, it would wipe grub all over again
[02:29] <cretep1950> thanks
[02:29] <blazt> yeah I type /channels nothing popped up i am not using xchat
[02:29] <biglinux> alquem doo  brasil?
[02:29] <histo> blazt: just use bootcamp to boot the ubuntu cd
[02:29] <sebsebseb> !br |  biglinux
[02:29] <abcdefg> biglinux: eu
[02:29] <histo> blazt: you can't list channels on freenode i believe
[02:29] <Irving> i think you want "/list"
[02:29] <iPfaffy> Irving: is your card ridiculous old or unique? I have found that ubuntu gets most cards right..
[02:29] <blazt> Can you have three bootcamps
[02:29] <Irving> geforce 7300 GT
[02:29] <histo> blazt: i'm not sure how boot camp works perhaps ask in a mac channel or someone else here may know
[02:29] <blazt> yeah you can i listed channels in free node in xchate tons of tie
[02:30] <Irving> it gives me an option to install proprietary driver, but it doesn't work right
 ok
[02:30] <iPfaffy> ah
[02:30] <sebsebseb> !bot |  biglinux
[02:30] <blazt> ok i will just stick to vmware
[02:30] <blazt> :)
[02:30] <iPfaffy> blazt: virtualbox is great too
[02:30] <histo> blazt: /list in the status window should list channels then
[02:30] <ratapoil> how can I list installed devices?
[02:30] <histo> ratapoil: lspci
[02:30] <n8tuser> ratapoil-> lshal
[02:31] <Irving> so i had to download the driver from nvidia site, close x server, run the installer
[02:31] <Irving> all with a ton of help from someone on here, still took about 2 hours
[02:31] <iPfaffy> wow
[02:31] <iPfaffy> weird
[02:31] <BrianTM> Irving is plagued with weird problems ;)
[02:31] <histo> Irving: why not just use the restricted driver in the repos?
[02:31] <ratapoil> how could my CD-ROM drive have disapeared from ubuntu?
[02:32] <histo> ratapoil: places > computer
[02:32] <histo> ratapoil: if you insert a cd it should auto mount it
[02:32] <seidos> Irving:  is it nvidia integrated graphics?
[02:32] <brendansmith> hey all, i have a very urgent, and interesting question....  one of my users is still at work right now, and noticed that my main server (ltsp/nfs/samba) isn't accessible, and noticed that the console said there was a kernel panic...   i had her reboot the server and im back up pouring through logs... and the line i found right before it crashed is: kernel: [ 2839.476662] blk: request botched
[02:32] <obiwan_> please, why does screen resolution (system/prefs/scr.res) detect a "unknown" third monitor? I got just the laptop's and an external one. What 's the 'unkown' one?
[02:32] <brendansmith> does anyone have any idea what kernel: [ 2839.476662] blk: request botched would mean?
[02:32] <brendansmith> im googling it but coming up with nothing
[02:32] <ratapoil> histo: obviously, it's not. the drive doesn't even appear in lspci anymore
[02:33] <blazt> aha I figured out how to do it in cology or whatever.. I clicked consore which connected to freenode and typed list; I woud of never knew
[02:33] <Crunchwrap> guys
[02:33] <Crunchwrap> I installed ubuntu
[02:33] <Crunchwrap> on my machine
[02:33] <Crunchwrap> but now it won't start up
[02:33] <ratapoil> Crunchwrap: congrats
[02:33] <Crunchwrap> it doesn't even get power
[02:33] <brendansmith> hah
[02:33] <brendansmith> plug it in
[02:33] <histo> ratapoil: i don't think cdrom drives will show up there
[02:33] <Crunchwrap> ...
[02:33] <Crunchwrap> holy shit
[02:33] <ratapoil> histo, where can I look for it then?
[02:33] <Crunchwrap> I don't believe it
[02:34] <sebsebseb> !language |  Crunchwrap
[02:34] <Crunchwrap> you were right
[02:34] <blazt> Yeah linux can do that hehe
[02:34] <histo> ratapoil: it doesn't really have a place other then /dev untill you mount a cd
[02:34] <iPfaffy> sebsebseb: are you a bot or a reporter?
[02:34] <sebsebseb> iPfaffy: a person
[02:34] <sebsebseb> !bot |  iPfaffy
[02:35] <iPfaffy> i see
[02:35] <iPfaffy> or i s-e-e lol
[02:35] <ratapoil> histo: I think it might just need to be polling reenabled, which I can usually do with /dev/cdrom but now it says: Following symlink from /dev/cdrom to /dev/sr0 , then Cannot find storage device /dev/cdrom
[02:35] <|rt|> hmm that video doesn't work in my XP vm using IE
[02:35] <The-Moon> Im new to linux, quick question, could anyone help me make a shortcut to a *.bin file? I downloaded and installed savage2, and i wanted to make a short cut to the bin file so i dont have to use terminal everytime to run it. Could anyone help?
[02:35] <Baconizer> Can I set my keyboard layout to use unicode?
[02:36] <Baconizer> I would like to have a custom layout, where something like Ctrl-Alt-L = lambda
[02:36] <iPfaffy> The-Moon: iirc, you can right click the desktop and make a link somehow
[02:36] <sebsebseb> iPfaffy: a news paper reporter?  now  that would be sweet if   they had some  nice Linux articles in the mainstream newspapers and such, but nope
[02:36] <The-Moon> lol thats real helpful :)
[02:36] <iPfaffy> sebsebseb: I meant a person who just chills and reports, op-style
[02:36] <The-Moon> ohcreate launcher cool
[02:37] <ratapoil> The-Moon, you can create a new launcher. I have one linking to /usr/local/secureftp2_5/secureftp.sh for instance
[02:37] <blazt> I kinda like mac I think im just going to stick to it and fire up a distro in a virtual machine once in awhile
[02:37] <iPfaffy> yeah, that was it
[02:37] <blazt> i think im going to try moon os next time
[02:37] <The-Moon> yeah i think i can figure it out now
[02:37] <The-Moon> ty
[02:37] <sebsebseb> iPfaffy: I like using the bot,  and it should only really be used  with a proper reason
[02:37] <iPfaffy> sebsebseb: agreed
[02:38] <sebsebseb> iPfaffy: and as for my newspapers/media comment :( at that
[02:39] <iPfaffy> sebsebseb: yeah it'd be nice to be more mainstream, esp with how useful linux is becoming in the PC world
[02:39] <histo> blazt: did you experience a problem with ubuntu?
[02:39] <sebsebseb> iPfaffy: some proper advertising and such and  :D   anyway off topic
[02:39] <ipatrol> How can I mount the second VirtualBox hard disc
[02:39] <samid> is anyone using openproj?
[02:40] <blazt> no i quite like it i just dont have much room on my hard drive and i dont think think you can triple boot mac os / win 7 and  /  ubuntu easilely
[02:40] <sebsebseb> ipatrol: servers and  super computers and that  Linux is mainly used :)   ,but the desktop not yet :(
[02:40] <Jyxt> blazt: why not?
[02:40] <Jyxt> you can multiboot as many OS's as you want with grub
[02:40] <histo> blazt: i'm sure it can be done rather easily once you understand whats going on.
[02:40] <sebsebseb> blazt: Your on a real Mac?
[02:40] <iPfaffy> sebsebseb: you mean me? lol
[02:40] <sebsebseb> iPfaffy: messaged wrong one
[02:40] <sebsebseb> iPfaffy: yes you
[02:40] <MoonJu> how can I set utf-8?
[02:40] <sebsebseb> uh
[02:40] <sebsebseb> ipatrol: messaged wrong one
[02:41] <iPfaffy> sebsebseb: I would say that linux is mainly used on servers... supercomputers yeah, but i would say probably 50/50 ingeneral
[02:41] <blazt> do you know how what is wrong with vmware anyways lol I can give it full memory then make it full screen ...pretty much the same thing
[02:41] <sebsebseb> iPfaffy: Apache is the most used server and it's opensource :)  and yep that tends to run on Linux.  you can pm me if you want to continue this discussion   since off topic
[02:42] <The-Moon> Wonderful, i got the launcher working, thanks for the help :)(
[02:43] <blazt> You get Apache with mac os too i think windows is way behind
[02:43] <IdleOne> I have 8 .vob files how do I merge them into 1 .avi?
[02:43] <sebsebseb> blazt: It can run on Windows as well,  but usually  Microsoft's  not that good  server runs on Windows instead
[02:43] <Guest29872> hi
[02:43] <sebsebseb> !hi |  Guest29872
[02:43] <SeligArkin> iPfaffy: ... I feel silly now, How does one change the number of VDs?
[02:43] <sebsebseb> !welcome
[02:44] <live> HEY! whats a good python IDE/gui editor... like you know vb.net that type of thing IF there is one....
[02:45] <the_dark_warrio> Is it possible to control the exposure of my webcam? What program should I use?
[02:45] <iPfaffy> SeligArkin: it's in the preferences... look in compiz fusion places, i'm not on ubuntu now, so i can't say for sure
[02:46] <blazt> I think mac is just as good as linuxi it a 'nix machine i know im going to get hated on but you can install macports and install gnome/kde software ... only thing suck is you have to pay for it! and the hardware!
[02:46] <navetz> can someone help me fix my sounds. I can only use one sound application per startup. If i start youtube first, it is the only thing that can use my sound until I restart X.
[02:46] <jumbers> Ugh. This software refuses to work under Wine. What's another option? I don't know if I really want to run a virtualized Windows
[02:46] <sebsebseb> blazt: yeah and Mac OS X also locks people in
[02:46] <losher> IdleOne: you'll want to transcode the vob files into an avi. e.g. http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-rip-DVDs-for-free-with-VLC/
[02:46] <live> yeah i used mac for a while. the thing i hated was you have to pay for the upgrades lol
[02:46] <SeligArkin> iPfaffy: I should not be using compiz, but I am not sure, my laptop doesn't have the graphics capacity to run it so I disabled it ("No effects")
[02:46] <IdleOne> losher: thank you I will take a look
[02:46] <live> and the lack of menu stuff i HATE the doc
[02:47] <histo> jumbers: check the wine app database to see if anyone else has it working
[02:47] <iPfaffy> gotcha
[02:47] <blazt> You can rip DVDs even one with blocks on it.  Use handbrake its for linux and and mac  handbrake.rf
[02:47] <jumbers> histo: It's a very specialized program that I doubt anybody else would have
[02:48] <sebsebseb> iPfaffy: you didn't have to pm that, but yes  most of the worlds web servers run on Linux :)
[02:48] <slb_> hi all
[02:48] <Re|ent|ess> hi
[02:48] <sebsebseb> iPfaffy: I  guess you were meant to though since off topic hmm
[02:48] <blazt> sebsebseb: what do you mean it locks people in: you mean I am going to come a fanboy ... nah i already passed up a Iphone for a Android based phone...
[02:48] <Re|ent|ess> !offtyopic
[02:48] <Re|ent|ess> !offtopic
[02:48] <sebsebseb> blazt: good your asking me now,  I was on the verge of giving you  links
[02:49] <histo> jumbers: yeah then mostlikely you would have to use virtualbox, which you can run seamlessly now.
[02:49] <luist> hey im trying to use a emerald theme... but its not working... how can i do that?
[02:49] <aj_444> Does anybody here use Google Chrome on linux?
[02:49] <live> they didnt lock me in after a couple years.  and i would take a half a year with ubuntu than free mac software for life
[02:49] <blazt> i still don't understand .... you can run bootcamp.. that means you get too machine for one.
[02:50] <jumbers> histo: Is there a way to strip down Windows a lot since I only need literally 1 program?
[02:50] <demonspork> aj_444, I use google chrome on linux
[02:50] <sebsebseb> blazt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_lock-in   read the introduction and then be sure to check out the  Apple and Microsoft sections :)   also  find out about software freedom :)  http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html
[02:50] <live> python gui editor
[02:50] <aj_444> demonspork: Do you know how to enable flash?
[02:50] <histo> jumbers: you may want to check out windows lite or nlite some of those apps
[02:50] <demonspork> aj_444, it isn't quite as snappy as it is in windows, but hey, it is just a developement release
[02:50] <demonspork> aj_444, edit the launcher
[02:50] <histo> jumbers: or ask the people in #winehq to see if they would be abel to help
[02:51] <demonspork> aj_444, add --enable-plugins
[02:51] <sebsebseb> blazt: Bootcamp basically turns  a  Mac into a Windows PC,  it is also possible to install Linux distros such as Ubuntu onto a Mac
[02:51] <aj_444> demonspork: How do I edit the launcher?
[02:51] <BrianTM> I'm hanging. Time for bed. G'nite from Ireland
[02:51] <peepsalot> when sharing options are set in nautilus via the right-click Sharing menu, where does this configuration go?
[02:51] <slb_> hi, besides gparted live CD which i cannot run because my CD drive is defective and the usb version i made won't work, can i use a hardy usb install to repartition my drive (i have a win xp partition, /home and /)
[02:51] <demonspork> aj_444, where do you launch it from? the "Applications>Internet" menu?
[02:51] <sebsebseb> !freedom |  blazt
[02:52] <aj_444> demonspork: I have an icon on the desktop, I assume it would be in the internet section though.
[02:52] <IdleOne> losher: seems those instructions are for VLC Windows and don't seem to have the same options in my VLC
[02:52] <demonspork> aj_444, just right click on the launcher and there
[02:53] <mow> ubottu > freebsd
[02:53] <mow> lol
[02:53] <blazt> you can use macportts and run FREE software it is not even virtualization it the the real thing ...only down side it might not match the carbon windows
[02:53] <sebsebseb> !fishing |  mow
[02:53] <mow> playing
[02:53] <sebsebseb> blazt: carbon Windows?
[02:53] <luist> how do i disable metacity and enable emerald theme?
[02:53] <aj_444> demonspork: Okay.. I'm confused.
[02:54] <demonspork> aj_444, what has you confused?
[02:54] <zamba> luist: system - preferences - appearance
[02:54] <Itaku> how do you open terminal on netbook ubuntu?
[02:54] <zamba> Itaku: ctrl + t
[02:54] <slb_> hi, besides gparted live CD which i cannot run because my CD drive is defective and the usb version i made won't work, can i use a hardy usb install to repartition my drive (i have a win xp partition, /home and /)
[02:54] <aj_444> demonspork: the edit the launcher part. I don't know what the launcher looks like.
[02:54] <rebewlabs> okay well im new to linix.. anyone help me with a quick terminal question?
[02:54] <slb_> rebewlabs, ok
[02:54] <sebsebseb> !ask |  rebewlabs
[02:54] <demonspork> aj_444, that icon on your desktop that you click when you want to open google chrome, that is the launcher
[02:54] <blazt> whatever it used to be aqua now it carbon i think i meant the theme excuse me sir
[02:54] <aj_444> demonspork: how do I edit it?
[02:55] <luist> zamba: this will not allow me to disable metacity or enable emerald -.-
[02:55] <demonspork> aj_444, right click on it, click Properties
[02:55] <sebsebseb> blazt: since  your off topic,   I am thinking ##mac   maybe #ubuntu-offtopic even
[02:55] <The-Moon> Another question, what is the "Xorg" processes?
[02:55] <demonspork> aj_444, in the place that says "Command"  add --enable-plugins
[02:56] <slb_> Itaku, maybe alt + f2?
[02:56] <losher> IdleOne: well actually I'd use dvd::rip if you have the dvd...
[02:56] <sebsebseb> blazt: Also please be sure to visit the two links I gave you :)
[02:56] <aj_444> demonspork: So flash'll work now?
[02:56] <IdleOne> losher: I do but after ripping, the transcode button is greyed out
[02:57] <demonspork> aj_444, it shouldn't be long before plugins are enabled by default, the OS X developement version has plugins by default now
[02:57] <peepsalot> The-Moon, Xorg is the window system, it's what makes the graphical windows possible.  previously known as simply X
[02:57] <IdleOne> losher: if you can guide me a little I would appreciate it
[02:57] <blazt> dude never mind i was just asking if you could triple boot ubuntu i like everything UNIX including LINUX
[02:57] <luist> can anyone help me to set an emerald theme? i selected it in emerald-theme-manager but it didnt take effect
[02:57] <demonspork> aj_444, yes, after you close all of your google chrome windows
[02:57] <demonspork> aj_444, and relaunch
[02:57] <Enissay> Hi guys, im having vlc runing in two separated windows, how can i fix that please? -Jaunty-
[02:57] <aleron6_> does anybody know how to open the glxgears utility
[02:57] <sebsebseb> blazt: yes you can triple boot,   I am not sure how you would on a Mac though
[02:57] <The-Moon> peepsalot: thank you :)
[02:57] <slb_> hi, besides gparted live CD which i cannot run because my CD drive is defective and the usb version i made won't work, can i use a hardy usb install to repartition my drive (i have a win xp partition, /home and /)
[02:57] <rebewlabs> okay i got the aircrack-ns packet, i type "aircrack-ns" in the terminal, then how to i add other command options on it
[02:58] <aj_444> demonspork: Okay. Thanks.
[02:58] <sebsebseb> blazt: what you could do is run OS X and virtual machine other OS's
[02:59] <losher> IdleOne: that's weird. Did you use the 'copy dvd to harddisk before encoding' option?
[02:59] <blazt> Yes seb that is what I am doing right now I have  opensuse though but I am going to switch back to linux
[02:59] <IdleOne> losher: I don't think I did
[02:59] <rebewlabs> how do i add other commands on a packet name in the terminal?
[02:59] <sebsebseb> blazt: OpenSuse, but going to switch back to Linux?  What do you think OpenSuse is?
[03:00] <aleron6_> does anybody know how to open the glxgears utility
[03:00] <spursncowboys> Is there a reason for me to have apache2? I have a Ubuntu 9.04 32 bit desktop
[03:00] <blazt> i mean ubuntu
[03:00] <sebsebseb> spursncowboys: Probably not unless  your going to run a web server
[03:00] <losher> IdleOne: it uses more space (and time) but I found dvdrip doesn't always work with the 'encode on the fly' option. Er, `how did you get the 8 vob files?
[03:00] <blazt> well actually i meant kde to gnome
[03:01] <blazt> im really tired today man i cant think
[03:01] <spursncowboys> sebsebseb: How would I get it off? sudo purge apache2?
[03:01] <IdleOne> losher: correction yes I did copy to hard disk
[03:01] <slb_> IdleOne, didn't see your original question, but Handbrake may help
[03:01] <sebsebseb> blazt: Yeah OpenSuse is a bit hmm,   KDE 4 is also a bit hmm,    Kubuntu KDE 3 is nice,  and Gnome is :)
[03:01] <lstarnes> spursncowboys: sudo aptitude purge apache2
[03:01] <slb_> spursncowboys, sudo aptitude purge apache2
[03:01] <peepsalot> where are samba folder sharing settings stored?
[03:01] <spursncowboys> ty
[03:01] <IdleOne> losher: ok so I have the .vob files now what?
[03:02] <losher> IdleOne: handbrake is a possible option too, but so is ffmpeg, mencoder or transcode.
[03:02] <sebsebseb> lstarnes: I could have answered that, but  nevermind
[03:02] <IdleOne> losher: think I got it going.
[03:02] <justin-> Hello
[03:03] <sebsebseb> !hello |  justin-
[03:03] <justin-> Seb this is me I am using Linkinus
[03:03] <losher> IdleOne: did you change the encoding options?  It is also breaking /etc/resolv.conf - it keeps resetting my hostname to localhost.localdomain for some reason, dispite /etc/hostname saying otherwise.
[03:08] <justin-> Ok I know with SuSe you can install apt get manage can you do the same thing for Ubuntu and woud it even be worth while
[03:08] <losher> IdleOne: Understood. Since it takes ages to transcode a full dvd, you can experiment with transcoding short sections of the dvd quickly to see what effect different settings have by using the 'frame range' under 'general options' in the transcode tab. A range might be e.g. 1000 to 2000 is 1000 frames i.e. about 30 seconds of video....
[03:09] <sebsebseb> justin-: apt get manage ????  what are you on about
[03:09] <sebsebseb> !apt |  justin-
[03:09] <justin-> manager
[03:09] <justin-> package tool
[03:09] <sebsebseb> didn't want the bot to do that
[03:09] <sebsebseb> justin-: I thought Suse used yum?
[03:09] <n8tuser> SeligArkin-> look in /etc/hosts
[03:09] <justin-> SuSe use Yast package manager
[03:10] <sebsebseb> !yast |  justin-
[03:10] <sebsebseb> !yum
[03:10] <sebsebseb> justin-: there's apt and synaptic a GUI for it
[03:10] <sebsebseb> justin-: in Ubuntu
[03:11] <justin-> I tend to call things the wrong things alot..  Atleast I am not one of those people that thinks the Monitor is the computer.lo
[03:11] <sebsebseb> justin-: and   the add/remove GUI as well which can't do as much as synaptic by a long way
[03:11] <histo> !botabuse | sebsebseb
[03:11] <sebsebseb> histo: it might look like it, but I disagree
[03:11] <justin-> I know I was just wondering if you unpackage .RPM files or can you install a package manager like YaSt to d it?
[03:12] <SeligArkin> n8tuser: I take it its the line to add localhost, correct? qwhatever it is that it butchering my hostname also butchers /etc/hosts  and it is driveing me mad
[03:12] <sebsebseb> justin-: ah ha I see
[03:12] <mimiloon> hi everybody, is there an app for linux to open "OneNote" files?
[03:12] <sebsebseb> justin-: ok  Ubuntu  uses  DEB instead of  RPM,  no not Debian Debs,  Ubuntu Debs
[03:12] <n8tuser> !hostname | SeligArkin
[03:12] <sebsebseb> !debian |  justin-
[03:12] <Enissay> Hi guys, im having vlc runing in two separated windows, how can i fix that please? -Jaunty-
[03:13] <mrlexx> hey there all
[03:13] <sebsebseb> justin-: there is also  Alien  which can convert a RPM into a  DEB, it is also apparantly dangerous,   but  that's apparantly not true,  according to some people,  that have used it and that
[03:13] <sebsebseb> !alien |  justin-
[03:13] <justin-> repositories for Debian should not be used for ubuntu thats weird I thought ubuntu was a Debian fork... I had no problem installing YaSt on SuSe
[03:14] <zebastian> help i plugged my camera in and it recognized it but i am not sure if it's mounting right, i think i have acceess to the camera memory but not to the  memory card, is there a way to check if it's mounted and otherwis3e mount it?
[03:14] <mrlexx> is there a utility for proxy bouncing available for ubuntu?
[03:14] <sebsebseb> justin-: yes it's based on Debian, but there are quite a few differences here and there
[03:14] <sebsebseb> justin-: as a result you don't use Debian DEBS on Ubuntu  instead you use Ubuntu DEBS
[03:14] <llml> Anyone: I am using this irc web interface to talk here. i'd rather use irssi to connect to freenode. the case is i'm now behind a http proxy. how i can go pass it with a irc client like irssi?
[03:14] <IdleOne> justin-: ubuntu is not a fork of debian. it is based on debian
[03:14] <szczym> helo all i have following problem: i use ubuntu 8.04.3 server on p4 with 720 mb ram, i have only 2 copy processes over sshd (sshfs) and one cp from local ntfs disk to local ext3 (other disk). all system is very slow, i have 4.05 in top and its not very responsive. the cp process is 500 KB/s but should be 5MB/s. in top the moust intensive process is sshd with 0.3 cpu and mount.ntfs with 0.2 cpu. system is using only 200k of swap. could some one tell me how
[03:14] <szczym> i could diagnose its problem ?
[03:15] <mimiloon> is there a linux app to open "OneNote" files?
[03:15] <sebsebseb> mimiloon: maybe, but you can probably also  use OneNote rather nicely in Wine
[03:15] <SeligArkin> n8tuser: There is no System > Admininstration > Networking
[03:16] <beachbrake> my left speaker of the laptop is producing a 'tuk-tuk ' sound whenever i play ay music file, can anyone tell me why?
[03:16] <losher> sebsebseb: I think the danger of alien is in mistakenly encouraging people to think that just because they managed to install an rpm using it, that it was actually a reasonable thing to do...
[03:16] <Reactor> mimiloon: xD kick the Microsoft products
[03:16] <brian> hello?
[03:16] <brian> hi
[03:16] <brian> i have a question
[03:16] <brian> was hoping someone could answer it
[03:16] <losher> !ask | brian
[03:16] <brian> nice
[03:16] <n8tuser> SeligArkin-> what are you trying to do?
[03:16] <brian> this one is fun
[03:16] <brian> well here goes
[03:16] <mimiloon> sebsebseb, i'll give that a shot
[03:16] <FloodBot2> brian: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:16] <Reactor> brian: ask
[03:16] <brian> ?? don't use enter as punctuation what does that mean?
[03:16] <beachbrake> my left speaker of the laptop is producing a 'tuk-tuk ' sound whenever i play ay music file, can anyone tell me why?
[03:17] <Reactor> brian: !!
[03:17] <brian> anyway
[03:17] <Jyxt> brian: it means dont type then hit enter, then type then hit enter
[03:17] <IdleOne> brian: means stop hitting the enter key every 3 words :)
[03:17] <llml> Anyone would please help me with the http proxy problem above?
[03:17] <mimiloon> Reactor, id love to but people are so stuburn (other ppl)
[03:17] <test34> brian, dont use 10 lines for one sentenc
[03:17] <sebsebseb> mimiloon: if that doesn't work  or you can't get it configured,   you can ask in #winehq for configuring help by the way,  anyway if it doesn't work you can  virtual machine Windows inside Ubuntu with enough RAM
[03:17] <SeligArkin> n8tuser: Stop whatever it is from butchering my hostname. /etc/hostname is set /etc/hosts is set - something still keeps setting my hostname to localhost.localdomain, I think its avahi because turning that off fixed the problems
[03:17] <Jyxt> put your statements, questions comments on as few lines as possible
[03:17] <losher> brian: it means just type everything on one line. irc will put its own line breaks in...
[03:17] <Reactor> mimiloon: but try to kick them also xD
[03:17] <n8tuser> SeligArkin-> okay, you can turn off avahi it helps
[03:18] <n8tuser> if
[03:18] <brian> oh ok... alright here we go.  i have installed ubuntu jaunty using wubi.. and i would like to create an install cd for ubuntu using the exact settings that i've used... is it possible?
[03:18] <sebsebseb> losher:  ok it would be better to use a  Ubuntu DEB or  compile from source, but what's so wrong about using Alien to convert a  RPM into a DEB?
[03:18] <mimiloon> sebsebseb, thanks for the help
[03:18] <justin-> Would installing a .rpm file be any more wrong than using wine to install a microsoft .exe????
[03:18] <brian> a live cd in essence
[03:18] <xmnt> brian, all that buildup for that?
[03:18] <SeligArkin> n8tuser: The hosts file still gets butchered though, and this is driveing me batshit, I don't like my OS randomly breaking because something decided to frak with my hostname :/ Sorry if I am a bit irrate
[03:18] <sebsebseb> mimiloon: np and Virtualbox :)  I would recommend for virtulization
[03:18] <brian> well.. yes.. i don't know much yet i'm a newbie
[03:19] <mimiloon> Reactor, lol
[03:19] <m0r0n> Hey, whenever I plug in my record player Ubuntu insists on turning off my keyboard, any fix around that?
[03:19] <Reactor> mimiloon: thx
[03:19] <Reactor> mimiloon: ;)
[03:19] <test34> sebsebseb, I think RPMs dont always use the same directories for stuff (or not the same config files too)
[03:19] <brian> so, is it possible?
[03:19] <Dacvak> What's the program in Ubuntu that allows me to shrink a disk partition using Live CD?
[03:19] <sebsebseb> justin-: if you missed it, see above for the alien stuff
[03:20] <n8tuser> SeligArkin-> try turning off avahi,  also what processes did you have before those things happens?
[03:20] <mimiloon> Reactor, your welcome
[03:20] <test34> using RPMs is not a good idea
[03:20] <brian> hmmmm..... anyway, i googled it and couldn't find anything
[03:20] <losher> sebsebseb: well, it's not against any religion I know of, but software intended for Ubuntu systems shouldn't be packaged using rpm in the first place, and it could mess up your system...
[03:20] <xmnt> test34, RPMs will use the same dir's if you tell them to - but i don't see why that matters - just use a deb
[03:20] <SeligArkin> n8tuser: It happens shortly after any network interface goes up
[03:20] <MK13> Dacvak, Gparted might work depending on partition type
[03:20] <n8tuser> Dacvak-> fdisk and gparted perhaps
[03:20] <Dacvak> Thanks
[03:20] <n8tuser> SeligArkin-> look into your dhclient settings
[03:20] <brian> did i ask a foolish question?? noone answered it.
[03:21] <systest> "ifup -n eth1" shows static config as expected, but something keeps firing up DHCP on eth1, any idea what's fighting the interface/ifup config?
[03:21] <sebsebseb> brian: Wubi hmm
[03:21] <sebsebseb> brian:  I don't know the details, but it is possible to convert a Wubi install into a real proper partition :)
[03:21] <brian> i want to create a full fledged install cd... but i don't want to have to build it everytime i install it
[03:21] <SeligArkin> n8tuser: dhclient should not be getting used for my home network - as I have /etc/networks and wpasupplicant setup to use  static ip for my home network, but I will poke it
[03:22] <brian> it only takes a couple hours, but i want it to work "out of the box"
[03:22] <n8tuser> systest-> how did you determined that?
[03:22] <sebsebseb> !remaster |  brian
[03:22] <systest> n8tuser: determin what, that it's DHCP client is clobbering the config?  By looking at the requests coming into the DHCP server.
[03:23] <markl_> is there an easy way to create url files on the ubuntu desktop?
[03:23] <Irving> question: i'm installing ubuntu, with an xp installed already on another partition, ubuntu asks me Do i want to try to unmount partitions on the disk /dev/sdb. should I say yes or no?
[03:23] <n8tuser> systest-> did the client ever get its ip address allocation? the request to a dhcp is usually several times til it gets a good one
[03:23] <sebsebseb> justin-: oh so something happended to you, and you missed the alien stuff?
[03:24] <systest> n8tuser: it shouldn't be trying to get a DHCP address of that interface.  It's configured static in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:24] <losher> brian: I'd say it's ambitious for a noobie...
[03:24] <SeligArkin> n8tuser: What is the "proper" way to disable avahi?
[03:24] <m0r0n> Is there a way to make my keyboard stay as a keyboard? When I plug in my record player I think Ubuntu thinks it's a keyboard
[03:24] <n8tuser> systest-> i dont know your network layout, can you paste a drawing? to show which interface goes to where?
[03:25] <sebsebseb> Irving: two hard disks?
[03:25] <systest> n8tuser: that's the issue, it's configured static, "ifup" show's that it's reading config correctly but something keeps stomping on the config
[03:25] <losher> SeligArkin: use 'bum' to disable it at startup
[03:25] <Irving> one hard disk, 4 partitions XP on 1st
[03:25] <losher> !bum | SeligArkin
[03:25] <n8tuser> SeligArkin-> id kill it with /etc/init.d/avahi  stop  and then use update-rc.d to remove it permanently..
[03:25]  * losher just loves typing 'bum'...
[03:26] <sebsebseb> losher: I like using the bot so
[03:26] <sebsebseb> !language |  losher
[03:26] <n8tuser> systest-> can you at least tell us how many interfaces you have active and how they interconnect to the dhcp?
[03:26] <SeligArkin> n8tuser: will an update cause it to return, or can I expect this to stay dead?
[03:27] <spursncowboys> What is the log that helps me see the activity of my router?
[03:27] <n8tuser> SeligArkin-> it may re-appear during update, not 100% sure
[03:27] <systest> n8tuser: 2 NICs, eth0 = DHCP, eth1=static
[03:27] <n8tuser> spursncowboys-> is your box a router?
[03:27] <Irving> sebsebseb: can i direct message u
[03:27] <n8tuser> systest-> both on same subnet?
[03:28] <losher> SeligArkin: it should stay dead, if the developers do their job right, and avahi updates are rare anyway....
[03:28] <sebsebseb> Irving: keep it in the channal  for now at least
[03:28] <spursncowboys> n8tuser: what box?
[03:28] <Irving> ok
[03:28] <Irving> did you see my last message
[03:28] <sebsebseb> Irving: yes
[03:28] <n8tuser> spursncowboys-> which box are you on?
[03:28] <sebsebseb> Irving: How are you trying to partition?
[03:28] <sebsebseb> !dualboot | Irving
[03:28] <Irving> didn't get to that screen yet
[03:28] <systest> n8tuser: yes.  and yes, I realize that's awkward, but that's not the final config, just doing some testing
[03:29] <sebsebseb> Irving: ok before a partition can be changed, it has to be unmounted
[03:29] <Irving> so i hsould hit yes
[03:29] <sebsebseb> lrvick: well I suppouse there's at least one exception to this, because  Vista can resize itself, when it's running
[03:29] <n8tuser> systest-> well think about it, you have one interface thats static, but your dchpclient on the other overruns the settings of your /etc/hosts..
[03:30] <spursncowboys> linksys
[03:30] <Irving> ok thank you
[03:30] <systest> n8tuser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/272473/
[03:30] <spursncowboys> n8tuser: linksys
[03:30] <n8tuser> spursncowboys-> also try to prefix your responses with a nic of the person you're corresponding with so it will not get lost
[03:30] <SeligArkin> Now: How do I lower the number of virtual desktops I have, I can't seem to find the window to do this.
[03:30] <sebsebseb> lrvick: I guess Vista version 2  (Windows 7) will be like Vista when it comes to that as well
[03:30] <Irving> oh
[03:31] <spursncowboys> n8tuser: ok
[03:31] <Irving> that was my external drive it saw
[03:31] <n8tuser> spursncowboys-> you want to view the logs of your linksys router? do that with a browser
[03:31] <systest> n8tuser: that doesn't really make sense.  The system shouldn't be trying to start a DHCP client on eth1, regardless of what it did with eth0
[03:31] <alain973> hello
[03:31] <m0r0n> Does anyone own an ION Record player and has connected it to their computer with Ubuntu sucessfully?
[03:31] <Irving> i hope i didn't just screw up my drive
[03:31] <alain973> an ion no
[03:31] <sebsebseb> Irving: you unmounted your external drive?
[03:31] <Irving> yes
[03:31] <n8tuser> systest-> it make sense, one interface is static, then your dhcpclient on the other interface overrides your /etc/hosts
[03:31] <sebsebseb> Irving: ok that should be fine
[03:32] <Irving> whew ok
[03:32] <sebsebseb> Irving: when a partition is mounted it's being used,  then to stop it being used  for example an external hard disk, you unmount it
[03:32] <Irving> lots of stuffo nthere i dont want to lose, didnt mean to have that connected
[03:32] <sebsebseb> Irving: and you can't unmount the  Ubuntu partition  the /   when it's running,   hence using  a Live CD to resize it or whatever
[03:32] <systest> n8tuser: sorry, but I don't see what /etc/hosts has to do with the DHCP client changing the interface config of eth1
[03:32] <sebsebseb> lrvick: yes I was thinking sdb   another hard disk, hence why I asked if you had two
[03:33] <sebsebseb> lrvick: since sda  would be the first hard disk
[03:33] <Irving> oh
[03:33] <Irving> i see, yep that makes sense now
[03:33] <Irving> its getting late, ive been working on this for way to long
[03:33] <Irving> i had it 99% of the way there and I screwed up adding XP to the grub boot menu and everything went nuts on me :(
[03:33] <systest> n8tuser: it's not the IP or host name that's the issue here, it's that it get's a static address, then the DHCP client get's fired up and wipes out the interface (not in /etc/host but on the interface itself)
[03:33] <n8tuser> systest-> your interface seems incomplete, add the network and whatever else.. man interfaces
[03:34] <SeligArkin> Hmm, even after lowering the number of VDs I have to 4 - X is still using 354M VIRT according to htop and this still feels stupid high
[03:34] <sebsebseb> Irving: hmm  /home  can't be mounted either when Ubuntu is using it.   you can turn swapoff though swapoff, but that's not  really a partition as such
[03:34] <m0r0n> How do you monitor what is being plugged into your computer? With a log or something?
[03:34] <sebsebseb> Irving: unmounted above
[03:34] <n8tuser> systest-> perhaps i mis-understood you, what you mean by getting wiped out?
[03:34] <spursncowboys> n8tuser: How do I do it with a browser?
[03:35] <sebsebseb> Irving: you installed Ubuntu?
[03:35] <n8tuser> spursncowboys-> use the ip address of your linksys
[03:35] <n8tuser> spursncowboys-> use the ip address of your linksys and put that in your browser as if you were trying to configure the linksys
[03:35] <spursncowboys> n8tuser: ok I am there
[03:35] <systest> n8tuser: ifup gives eth1 a static address as expect, a short time later, a DHCP request is sent from eth1 which re-configures the interface wiping out the static config
[03:36] <n8tuser> spursncowboys-> so look around its management features, am not a linksys expert..poke around
[03:36] <sebsebseb> losher: when you install Ubuntu and put Grub on the MBR it should  add  Windows to it as well
[03:36] <sebsebseb> losher: wrong one
[03:36] <sebsebseb> Irving: above
[03:36] <losher> :-)
[03:36] <n8tuser> systest-> lets do this, look for your dchlient configs and pastebin it
[03:36] <systest> n8tuser: my question is, why is DHCP getting started on eth1 at all?
[03:36] <systest> n8tuser: k
[03:37] <Irving> ubuntus installing now
[03:37] <Irving> i was talking about way before, earlier today
[03:37] <n8tuser> systest-> somewhere in /var/lib/dhcp3/
[03:37] <Irving> i had ubuntu installed first, then tried to install xp
[03:37] <navetz> can someone help me fix my sounds. I can only use one sound application per startup. If i start youtube first, it is the only thing that can use my sound until I restart X.
[03:37] <sebsebseb> !grub | Irving
[03:37] <Mike_lifeguard> Where can I find detailed information about my hardware like amount of RAM, HDD, cpu speed+type, graphics/sound card etc?
[03:37] <Irving> then put grub back, got it to boot into ubuntu, but i messed it up when trying to get the boot menu
[03:37] <physic> can one give me link of video converter for ubuntu ?
[03:38] <spursncowboys> n8tuser: I will do that. ty for the help
[03:38] <systest> n8tuser: only shows eth0, which is what I would expect  (the DHCP server doesn't return a lease for eth1, I've black-listed it.)
[03:38] <n8tuser> spursncowboys-> you're welcome
[03:38] <n8tuser> systest-> how about just try  ifup eth1  without the -n option
[03:38] <systest> n8tuser: ifup eth1 works, for a time
[03:38] <Ashhh> Hiya people
[03:39] <sebsebseb> !hi | Ashhh
[03:39] <systest> n8tuser: then a DHCP process "undoes" what ifup eth1 did
[03:39] <n8tuser> systest-> and also try the complete settings of interfaces file
[03:39] <sohail> is there a way to install ubuntu from within a linux distro?
[03:39] <sohail> without burning a cd
[03:39] <sebsebseb> sohail: of course
[03:39] <Ashhh> prolly is
[03:39] <sohail> sebsebseb: how?
[03:39] <Ashhh> don't know it though
[03:39] <sebsebseb> sohail: a virtual machine :)
[03:39] <sohail> bah
[03:39] <Ashhh> lol
[03:40] <sebsebseb> sohail: Which distro   are you currently using?
[03:40] <Jyxt> sohail: i know you can install gentoo from within ubuntu
[03:40] <sohail> sebsebseb: ubuntu
[03:40] <sohail> :D
[03:40] <sohail> I just want to format it for my parents
[03:40] <systest> n8tuser: to the best of my knowledge, that is a complete config.  minimal, but complete, per man page only address and netmask are required
[03:40] <n8tuser> systest-> when you say undoes.. what happens to eth1 after? whats the ip address before and after?
[03:40] <sohail> and install the newest one
[03:40] <sohail> this is an older machine
[03:40] <Irving> sohail: virtual drive?
[03:40] <sebsebseb> Jyxt: yeah I heard that to, that Gentoo can be installed in nearly anything
[03:40] <sebsebseb> Jyxt: or something like that hmm
[03:40] <Ashhh> oooo
[03:40] <bartek> Hi. I am running into an odd issue in that when I switch away from Gnome to a different windows manager, my keyboard layout is totally different. / becomes ├® and so forth. How can I change it to be globally affected?
[03:40] <sohail> meh, maybe I'll just burn a cd
[03:40] <n8tuser> systest-> go ahead and add those settings like network and gateway.
[03:40] <Jyxt> sebsebseb: yeah...long a you have the basic tools lke chroot and a compiler
[03:40] <sohail> now I gotta find my cds
[03:40] <Ashhh> Gentoo in my wrist watch
[03:40] <systest> ip before = <IP_ADDRESS>,  after = "nothing"  (becuase the DHCP server does NOT give it an address)
[03:40] <sohail> still haven't unpacked
[03:40] <Jyxt> you can install gentoo from within anything
[03:40] <Ashhh> lol
[03:40] <sebsebseb> Jyxt: Have you done it?
[03:41] <Jyxt> sebsebseb: yes, on my laptop...installed gentoo from the ubuntu live cd
[03:41] <n8tuser> systest-> go ahead and add those settings like network and gateway.  try it will you
[03:41] <systest> n8tuser: if I do that, there will be multiple default routes etc
[03:41] <Jyxt> systest: have you disabled the dhcp server on your router?
[03:41] <systest> n8tuser: sure, why not
[03:41] <sebsebseb> Jyxt: oh ok
[03:41] <Jyxt> havent been following you, but it seems that what you want right?
[03:41] <n8tuser> systest-> then why have two interfaces on same subnet?
[03:41] <sebsebseb> sohail: Which Ubuntu is currently on there?
[03:41] <sebsebseb> sohail: Did you mean to say that you wanted to upgrade?
[03:41] <systest> Jyxt: no DHCP anywhere other than the one on my server
[03:42] <sebsebseb> sohail: upgrade to a later version of Ubuntu, upgrade your install?
[03:42] <Ashhh> aww
[03:42] <tchago> hello there, sorry to interrupt, but could someone point me on the right direction? i need help with a nic on knoppix, but i'm guessing this is not the right place or the right time to ask for assistance...
[03:42] <Jyxt> systest: linksys router? just login to the default page <IP_ADDRESS> no user, admin password
[03:42] <Jyxt> and disable the dhcp server
[03:42] <Ashhh> join the knoppix server thingie
[03:42] <n8tuser> systest i think i have request a network layout drawing,  a pic is worth a thousand words..
[03:42] <systest> n8tuser: trying some experiments with NFS via alt interface.  interferes with traffic shaping on eht0
[03:42] <sebsebseb> tchago: you could try ##linux
[03:42] <tchago> thanks ;)
[03:42] <sebsebseb> tchago: np
[03:42] <SeligArkin> Thanks for the help, guys
[03:43] <systest> Jyxt: no DHCP servers other than the ubuntu based one I'm running on another box
[03:43] <n8tuser> Jyxt-> he is trying to have two interface on same subnet too.. usually causes issues if not done properly
[03:44] <sohail> seb
[03:44] <sebsebseb> !who |  sohail
[03:44] <sebsebseb> !tab | sohail
[03:44] <Jyxt> systest: ok so one iface gets dhcp address...the other is static?
[03:44] <ratapoil> how can you see what app is using a removable device?
[03:44] <sohail> sebsebseb: I have a newish computer that I am replacing to give to my parnets. my wife used to use this computer so I want to format it like new. It currently has ubuntu on it so I wanted to upgrade and format in one go
[03:44] <systest> Jyxt: y, that's how it's configured on the client side.
[03:44] <sohail> sebsebseb: make sense?
[03:45] <Jyxt> systest: well if the iface is configured to use a static ip...then the dhcp server wont touch it since it wont know to
[03:45] <Jyxt> the client contacts the server for an address...not the other way around
[03:45] <sebsebseb> sohail: upgrade and format?  by  removing Ubuntu and using a Live CD to put on a later version?
[03:45] <Irving> yay, finally got dual boot!
[03:46] <gwydionwaters> anyone ever have a segmentation fault crash filezilla?
[03:46] <sohail> sebse
[03:46] <sebsebseb> Irving: good :)
[03:46] <sohail> sebsebseb: yes but preferably without burning a cd
[03:46] <systest> Jyxt: k, so that's the problem.  The client is configured to do static on eth1.  It DOES do static on eth1, then 5 minutes later it does DHCP on eth1
[03:46] <gwydionwaters> irving: yay! me too, osx + 8.10
[03:46] <sebsebseb> !install |  sohail
[03:46] <sebsebseb> !usb |  sohail
[03:46] <ERoot> sohail: Do you have a flash drive. You can make a livedrive
[03:46] <systest> Jyxt: the question is,  WHY does it do DHCP on eth1, it's not configured to and shouldn't be
[03:46] <Jyxt> systest: /etc/conf.d/net is configured properly?
[03:46] <sebsebseb> sohail: which version is currently on there?
[03:47] <Jyxt> ie config_eth#=("null") or something similiar
[03:47] <ratapoil> what is the command to find an app that's keeping a FS to be dismounted?
[03:47] <Jyxt> i know i had an issue where my eth0 was coming up on startup...and thus trying to pull a dhcp addres...i wanted all my ifaces turned off and i turn then on manually
[03:47] <sohail> ERoot: nope no flash
[03:47] <Jyxt> adding config_eth0=("null") fixed that for me
[03:47] <systest> Jyxt: there is no  /etc/conf.d on this system, DISTRIB_RELEASE=9.04
[03:47] <Ashhh> woots
[03:47] <n8tuser> Jyxt-> thats not the file ubuntu uses
[03:47] <Ashhh> O.o
[03:47] <Jyxt> systest: oh...im a gentoo user myself :P
[03:48] <ERoot> sohail:dang
[03:48] <systest> lol
[03:48] <Ashhh> !add 2 + 2
[03:48] <Jyxt> systest: there must be a simliar file though
[03:48] <Ashhh> aww
[03:48] <sohail> I guess I'll have to bite the bullet and burn a dvd
[03:48] <systest> Jyxt: there is, it's /etc/network/interfaces
[03:48] <Ashhh> hiya kruykaze
[03:48] <Ashhh> :)
[03:49] <gwydionwaters> favourite ftp clients that are not buggy?
[03:49] <kruykaze> hi
[03:49] <Ashhh> filezilla
[03:49] <gwydionwaters> hello
[03:49] <Ashhh> hiya gwy
[03:49] <Ashhh> dionwaters
[03:49] <Jyxt> systest: hrm...try adding a line in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:49] <gwydionwaters> i tried that, i get segmentation fault if run from term
[03:49] <gwydionwaters> nothing if from launcher
[03:49] <Jyxt> config_eth1=("null")
[03:49]  * Jyxt shrugs
[03:49] <ping0> i have a noob question...
[03:49] <gwydionwaters> and hello to you to ashhh
[03:49] <ERoot> Does anybody know about installing Ubuntu from the alternate install disk for a network install?
[03:49] <Ashhh> fire away ping
[03:49] <seidos> do you use latex?
[03:49] <Ashhh> O.o
[03:50] <seidos> LaTex rather
[03:50] <ping0> can i mount sftp from fstab ?
[03:50] <ping0> or do i need to use ... fuse or something
[03:50] <histo> !install | ERoot
[03:50] <Ashhh> um
[03:50] <gwydionwaters> perhaps i got the 64bit somehow? i am using 32 bit ppc
[03:50] <seidos> !latex
[03:50] <ping0> or maby fstab and fuse
[03:50] <Jyxt> ping0: using fuse...tool called sshfs you can add an entry to fstab
[03:50] <CaneToad> help please - my jaunty system is functional but moments ago all keyboard shift functionality stopped working inexplicably...i've unplugged the keyboard and replugged, didn't help....what do i do apart from logging out [question mark which i can't type]
[03:51] <ping0> ok
[03:51] <Therapsit> wouldn't let me change to Therapist.
[03:51] <systest> Jyxt: n8tuser: looks like it's a weird artifact of the DCHP client daemon.  I haven't touchd a think on the config, simply restarted NetworkManger which restarted DCHP client on eth0
[03:51] <ping0> why can i just mount it with just fstab ?
[03:51] <ping0> cant *
[03:51] <Jyxt> ping0: believe you can apt-get sshfs
[03:51] <ping0> yes
[03:51] <Jyxt> ping0: because fstab doesnt know how to use sftp
[03:51] <telaviv> i'm using an nvidia graphics card. Ubuntu always boots to an unwanted resolutions. I tried saving the resolution on my xorg.conf but still to no avail. The login screen is however on the correct resolution, it only changes after i log in
[03:51] <Therapsit> funny how y'all are talking about ubuntu
[03:51] <systest> Jyxt: n8tuser: it seems stable now, i.e. eth1 is static and hasn't been messed with for several minutes
[03:51] <ping0> aaa now i understand
[03:51] <n8tuser> systest-> well you still refuse to provide a network layout..
[03:51] <ping0> thx
[03:51] <Jyxt> ping0: but sshfs does
[03:51] <ratapoil> what is the command to find an app that's keeping a FS to be unmounted?
[03:51] <seidos> telaviv: that happened to me.  are you using the nv driver?
[03:52] <telaviv> yeap
[03:52] <systest> n8tuser: nothing to draw, 2 NICs to one SOHO switch
[03:52] <sevol> how can u re-add or launch the gnome network manager?
[03:52] <seidos> !nvidia
[03:52] <kruykaze> getting ready to upgrade to karmic: ihave my /home in a sep partition how do i make sure i don't loose it?
[03:52]  * Therapsit is awesome
[03:52] <systest> n8tuser:  eth0 -> SWITCH -< eth1
[03:52] <Therapsit> meh
[03:52] <sevol> re-add it to panel*
[03:52] <seidos> telaviv: have you tried other resolutions to see if it still happens?
[03:52] <Jyxt> ping0: once sshfs is installed you can add a line to fstab thats kind of like user@address  /mnt/point etc etc etc etc
[03:53] <n8tuser> systest-> now if you were a packet out of your ubuntu, which interface would you take? eth0 or eth1 ?
[03:53] <telaviv> nope, why would it?
[03:53] <Ashhh> etho
[03:53] <ping0> jyxt : ok :)
[03:53] <Ashhh> oooo
[03:53] <Ashhh> ghost
[03:54] <Ashhh> O.O
[03:54] <seidos> telaviv: troubleshooting.  I am reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia to see if I can help you.
[03:54] <Ashhh> !define erroneous
[03:54] <Ashhh> lol
[03:54] <systest> n8tuser: agree it's a bad config for other than this test,  but, to answer your Q, I would expect it to reply on the interface which was bound to the IP was talking to.
[03:55] <m0r0n> Hey, my keyboard doesn't work on desk 1 only 2
[03:55] <systest> n8tuser: which his exaclty what it's doing now that the the IP address isn't being removed from the eth1
[03:55] <n8tuser> systest -> well why work with a bad config?  do it right so you would not loss your hair. lol
[03:56] <Ashhh> um
[03:56] <seidos> telaviv: have you checked your xorg.0.log in /var/log?
[03:56] <Ashhh> move the second desk where the first desk is
[03:56] <Ashhh> that way
[03:56] <Ashhh> it'll work on the first one
[03:56] <telaviv> well i'm not missing resolution seidos, I can set it up as soon as i click system->display->(etc. . .) It just have to do that everytime i log in
[03:56] <systest> n8tuser: I'll have to add some hardware if I want truely want to spin up a seperate subnet.  this proof of concept confirms it's worth the effort to do that.
[03:57] <n8tuser> is there an easy way at all to map key combination  alt_right+y   to echo a string lets say "hello world"  ?    my turn to get help.. :P
[03:57] <wizzo50> !list
[03:57] <wizzo50>  /msg ubottu !bot
[03:57] <Ashhh> #list
[03:57] <Ashhh> !list
[03:57] <n8tuser> systest -> what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[03:57] <wizzo50> #list
[03:57] <Ashhh> Hiya wizzo
[03:58] <Ashhh> how's it hanging??
[03:58] <wizzo50> Hi
[03:58] <seidos> telaviv: I would recommend you read this, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:58] <systest> n8tuser: wanted to verify some interaction / OS side config for multiple NICs with different traffic shaping
[03:58] <wizzo50> alright, yourself?
[03:58] <dragonlyre> so does anyone run ubuntu on a vm?
[03:58] <Ashhh> awesome
[03:58] <Ashhh> um
[03:58] <Ashhh> used to
[03:58] <Ashhh> well
[03:58] <Ashhh> not run it
[03:58] <telaviv> alright thank you seidos, also i'm checking out Xorg.0.log, thanks for the hint!
[03:58] <wizzo50> Ashhh: What you do today?
[03:58] <gwydionwaters> maybe if i compile filezilla myself it will not crash on start  O_o
[03:58] <systest> n8tuser: now that the OS side is stable, only took a few commands to very it works as expected.  Next step, add another switch.
[03:59] <Ashhh> just install it and then deleted the vm image and installed it and so on
[03:59] <Ashhh> use filezilla portable
[03:59] <Ashhh> oh
[03:59] <XAMELEON> Hello Linuksoidam
[03:59] <Ashhh> you're prolly using ubuntu
[03:59] <Ashhh> nm then
[03:59] <sebsebseb> dragonlyre: for trying it can be useful, but better to do a proper partitioned install
[03:59] <Ashhh> Wizzo: just being bored here
[03:59] <wizzo50> Ashhh: yes, Ubuntu
[03:59] <sebsebseb> !ot |  Ashhh wizzo50
[03:59] <Ashhh> lol
[04:00] <seidos> telaviv: buttom of the file, mentions your problem specifically
[04:00] <Ashhh> Ima go to ubuntu-offtopic
[04:00] <Ashhh> um
[04:00] <wizzo50> sebsebseb: Hi
[04:00] <sebsebseb> wizzo50: hi
[04:00] <quizme> libqt4-dbg  <--- where can i get this?  don't i need to modify /etc/apt/sources.list  ?
[04:00] <dragonlyre> Oh I have parted out already just curiosity :)
[04:02] <systest> n8tuser: Jyxt:  Thanks all
[04:02] <telaviv> thanks alot seidos worked perfectly!
[04:02] <n8tuser> yw
[04:02] <ping0> jyxt: how does it work with the password if i use it with the fstab ?
[04:03] <Jyxt> ping0: i dont think you can
[04:04] <Jyxt> only keys as far as i know
[04:04] <Jyxt> !man sshfs
[04:04] <Jyxt> aww :(
[04:04] <Jyxt> !sshfs
[04:05] <m0r0n> Have people ever took over other peoples computer on Ubuntu
[04:05] <m0r0n> Unwillingly*
[04:06] <ping0> jyxt: hmm ok :S
[04:07] <losher> m0r0n: why bother, when there are apparently so many windows machines there just for the taking...?
[04:07] <m0r0n> losher:  My computer as if today, when I type, something likes to erase everything as I type
[04:07] <nic1> hello..i am gettng an error
[04:08] <nic1> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[04:08] <losher> m0r0n: Seriously? In firefox, or other programs?
[04:09] <m0r0n> losher: Everything.
[04:09] <joel> I'm tryingto install ubuntu along side windows 7 and am running into problems is anyone interested in trying to help me out?
[04:09] <gwydionwaters> whats up joel?
[04:10] <Guest79670> ok i finally got a new monitor still a CRT but a 2002 HP 17 inch everything works except the screen is just too dark its killing, me
[04:10] <ping0> jyxt:  think i have to rtfm ^^
[04:10] <webbb82> what irc client do you guys use
[04:10] <kruykaze> xchat
[04:10] <ubox> xchat
[04:10] <m0r0n> webbb82: KVirc
[04:10] <Irving> mIRC
[04:10] <joel> I've installed through wubi, but i want to install ubuntu to its own partition. when ubuntu tries to repartition though it hangs at 0%
[04:10] <webbb82> i was thinkin bout kvrc
[04:11] <kruykaze> used to use chatzilla but kept getting errors
[04:11] <joel> (im now installing from a live cd)
[04:11] <timClicks> hi all, are there any gmail notifiers that support google apps accounts (None in Add/Remove do)
[04:11] <ubox> what are you using to partition?
[04:11] <webbb82> i want one that i can save my most used chat rooms
[04:11] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I get information on my CPU(s)?
[04:11] <m0r0n> Mike_lifeguard: Heat? or what Usage?
[04:11] <joel> the live cd so im guessing gparted
[04:11] <Guest79670> monitor brightness?
[04:11] <kruykaze> Mike_lifeguard, system monitor
[04:12] <Mike_lifeguard> m0r0n: no, like what the hardware is... like what model they are
[04:12] <m0r0n> Mike_lifeguard: System>Administrator>System Monitor
[04:12] <ubox> hmm, i used parted from the, execute shell option. worked ok, then i used the gui one to assign uses etc
[04:12] <ubox> it was a bit of a pain
[04:12] <losher> m0r0n: never heard of such a thing. neither as an infection nor as a failure mode. What exactly do you mean by 'erase everything as I type'? Do you mean nothing echoes, like when you type a password?
[04:13] <webbb82> is there a irc client that will minamise to the system tray
[04:13] <ubox> ... dunno, that would be cool though
[04:13] <m0r0n> I can log in, but hmm this is odd, it's not happening yet. But when I plug in my record player, it starts the erasing when I try to type, if it lets me type at all
[04:13] <kruykaze> webbb82, xchat
[04:14] <ubox> your record player? into your computer?
[04:14] <ERoot> Hey, I'm fairly new but I've been looking around(googling essentially) about bluetooth issues and haven't found much. I installed Ubuntu on a friends computer with Wubi and what's wierd was his bluetooth mouse worked and his bluetooth keyboard didn't. The system was unusable.
[04:14] <Mike_lifeguard> webbb82: XChat
[04:15] <m0r0n> ubox: Yes, ION recordplayers do that, and it is possible for every record player to do so with the right equipment
[04:15] <joel> even windows wont shrink its own partion though, so im starting to thing it has something to do with win7. I managed to originally squeze like 4 gigs out and thats all windows would give (even though it has 140 gigs o so so give), but ubuntu wouldnt install in the new partiton i created. Recognises it but wont select for install.
[04:15] <losher> m0r0n: ok, that's not a 'takeover'. That's a hardware conflict between your usb keyboard and the (presumably) usb turntable...
[04:15] <zerothis> I have a weird thing to do. boot without my internal HD plugged in, them mount it. possible?
[04:15] <webbb82> lol xchat it is,,  what one,,  the one made just for gnnmoe
[04:15] <aleron6> DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW I CAN OPEN MY VIDEO CARD FILE
[04:16] <ubox> m0r0n: sweet
[04:16] <aleron6> FOR I CAN EDIT IT
[04:16] <ubox> joel: is win7's fs journaled?
[04:16] <IdleOne> !caps | aleron6
[04:16] <kruykaze> webbb82, the on ein soft channel
[04:16] <m0r0n> losher: I was reading the logs, and it is reading as an audio device, using some driver I cannot remember. and it's not even spinning when it happens
[04:16] <kruykaze> in*
[04:17] <webbb82> has anyone used quassei irc????????
[04:17] <maco> webbb82: using it right now
[04:17] <m0r0n> webbb82: Try em all out, it's easy to install and uninstall
[04:17] <webbb82> true
[04:17] <Guest79670> i use chatzilla and konversation
[04:17] <losher> m0r0n: Sorry, I know nothing about your turntable. Is it even known to work on Ubuntu?
[04:18] <Out_Cold> turntables work with buntu studio
[04:18] <Vtec> http://img268.imageshack.us/i/screenshotpj.png/ <--- Anyone know what I have to do to set that partition as flagged? someone told me I need to have it set as flagged in order to boot windows! please help
[04:18] <m0r0n> losher: Ya it is, I googled it people seem to have no problems at all
[04:18] <sevol> how do i re-add the network manager back to the panel?
[04:18] <Vtec> http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8079/screenshotpj.png*
[04:19] <Vtec> Sevol right click press add to panel look for notification list or manager
[04:19] <Vtec> notification area*
[04:19] <sevol> Vtec: thank you
[04:19] <Vtec> no problem i did that earlier lol
[04:20] <Vtec> http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8079/screenshotpj.png <--- Anyone know what I have to do to set that partition as flagged? someone told me I need to have it set as flagged in order to boot windows! please help
[04:20] <Boondoklife> Vtec: try boot
[04:20] <Phrogz_> I have a 9.04 server coloc'd offset that is having network trouble. I can't ping it, it can't ping or resolve me, but we can both ping the same intermediary. Anyone able to help, either URL or with advice?
[04:20] <Phrogz_> s/offset/offsite/
[04:20] <Vtec> try? i don't wanna mes with stuff andn ot be sure lol
[04:20] <Boondoklife> Vtec: that is what mine is set to
[04:20] <Vtec> your windows one?
[04:21] <Boondoklife> Vtec: yea i have a partition there for flashing phones
[04:21] <Boondoklife> Vtec: you need it set to boot
[04:21] <Vtec> ahh alright
[04:21] <Vtec> tyvm boon
[04:21] <n8tuser> ARM joins the Linux Foundation...now if i can only load ubuntu on that old palm tungsten..
[04:22] <losher> m0r0n: the only thing I can suggest (and it's total guesswork) is to try a ps/2 keyboard and mouse if your mobo supports them...
[04:22] <Boondoklife> Vtec:  lates
[04:22] <Phrogz_> Bah, no traceroute on the box and apt-get can't resolve us.archive.ubuntu.com.
[04:23]  * Phrogz_ goes to learn about DNS servers.
[04:24] <losher> Phrogz_: run netstat -rn and see if the default route looks reasonable
[04:24] <webbb82> i just installed kvirc and the chat window has all these really really small horizontal lines going across the window
[04:25] <Phrogz_> losher: Not sure how to identify 'reasonable'.
[04:25] <pythagoras> anyone know any command line param..to flush cache
[04:26] <losher> Phrogz_: So cheat: Got any other machines at that site? See what they use for a default route. What does that intermediate system you mentioned use?
[04:26] <Phrogz_> losher: for destination <IP_ADDRESS> the gateway is <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS> flags UG, however, I can't ping <IP_ADDRESS>...does that sound bad?
[04:27] <Phrogz_> losher: I found the intermediate IP via   ping <IP_ADDRESS> -b  which hit   <IP_ADDRESS> from the 'bad' machine, and I can ping that locally, too. I have no other machines coloc'd.
[04:28] <Phrogz_> locally == from this machine halfway across the US.
[04:28] <losher> Phrogz_: yes, that means anytime the box has packets it doesn't know what to do with, it will send them to  <IP_ADDRESS>, which is apparently down right now, which presumably explains why it stopped working...
[04:28] <Phrogz_> That gateway should be the ISP's responsibility, yes?
[04:29] <zobi1> I would like to backup the etc directory not periodically but only when a file changes in it. Is that possible?
[04:29] <nic1> how can i check what all nvidia drivers are installed on my machine?
[04:30] <kosystem> nic1 system>administrater>Hadware Drivers
[04:31] <default> 2
[04:31] <Guest5941> yiuy
[04:31] <losher> Phrogz_: that depends entirely on the details of the setup that I can't possibly know. Who owns <IP_ADDRESS>? What does  <IP_ADDRESS> use as its gateway?
[04:31] <Scarra3> Hey everyone
[04:31] <n8tuser> zobi1 -> yes, try the new upstart daemon
[04:31] <Phrogz_> losher: Alright, thanks. Going back to tech support at the ISP now to see if they'll claim responsibility. :)
[04:32] <Scarra3> Do you suggest I move the Ubuntu Alpha 5 or just stay with 9.04
[04:32] <Flannel> Scarra3: Stay with 9.04, especialy right now.
[04:32] <Scarra3> Why is ther somthing wrong with it
[04:32] <Phrogz_> losher: Thanks again, especially for netstat -rn; will have to remember that.
[04:33] <losher> zobi1: it's possible, but requires a bit of shell scripting. Might be easier to just back it up once a week regardless...
[04:33] <losher> Phrogz_: hope it gets sorted...
[04:33] <Evelina> Is it possible to display real clickable links on desktop using COnky?
[04:33] <zobi1> n8tuser: excellent. do you know of any backup scripts based on that?
[04:33] <losher> Scarra3: I moved back to 8.04 LTS. Just how lucky do you feel?
[04:33] <Scarra3> Why did you move to 8.04
[04:34] <losher> Scarra3: please use my name when talking to me, or I'll miss lines. I was sick of the 9.04 problems: sound, flash, wifi, lots of little things...
[04:34] <n8tuser> zobi1 -> you may have to google for it, also look into inotify and udev, these 3 newer features is something i yet to get a good grasp of
[04:35] <Scarra3> losher: ow I see I moved to 9.04 because it supported my wireless care without me having to use backports
[04:35] <sebsebseb> Scarra3: yeah don't do 9.10 yet,  unless a developer or a proper tester
[04:36] <sebsebseb> Scarra3: October 29th is the final of 9.10
[04:36] <physic> hello
[04:36] <losher> Scarra3: if it works for you, well & good. But anything labelled 'alpha' is pretty much guaranteed to be unstable and bug-ridden. Why would you do that to yourself?
[04:36] <sebsebseb> !hi |  physic
[04:36] <physic> http://code.google.com/p/winff/wiki/UbuntuInstallation
[04:36] <Scarra3> sebsebseb: ok thx for the advise. Ill stick with 9.04
[04:36] <physic> i have probloum with this link
[04:36] <sebsebseb> losher: indeed  problems/issues with 9.04 here and there
[04:37] <physic> how i can add repository?
[04:37] <sebsebseb> Scarra3: np
[04:37] <sebsebseb> !repo | physic
[04:37] <joel> You want to know problems try using 9.10
[04:37] <newmini9> greetings
[04:37] <newmini9> I
[04:37] <losher> sebsebseb: I wouldn't mind, but they somehow never seemed to get resolved. I've yet to see a solution for sound in 9.04 that's 100% reliable...
[04:37] <newmini9> I
[04:37] <FloodBot2> newmini9: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:37] <physic> what i have to do?
[04:38] <Scarra3> sebsebseb: how would I go about editing to look of Ubuntu like change the boot screen I already know how to change the UI and icons etc...
[04:38] <sebsebseb> losher: sure, but  that can also be a manufacture fault
[04:39] <sebsebseb> Scarra3: with the  Ubuntu is loading screen, well  I would use  the Ubuntu one or the Kubuntu one,  I haven't  changed it otherwise
[04:39] <newmini9> I've a new dell mini 9 ... I remember finding a util to "reverse" from items already installed
[04:39] <Scarra3> sebsebseb: ow ok ive only stuck with ubuntu I havent tried any other ones
[04:39] <sebsebseb> Scarra3: also 9.10  has/will have some kind of  boot up screen effect, which looked quite nice by the video I saw
[04:40] <Scarra3> sebsebseb: you mean xsplash?
[04:40] <webbb82> im running ubuntu on a netbook with a small screen so whenever i open a app or window i cant see the bottem part of the window cause it was made for a bigger screen anyone know how to fix this
[04:40] <sebsebseb> Scarra3: don't now
[04:40] <losher> sebsebseb: I agree, but the end result is that sound is unstable in 9.04 and apparently hasn't been able to be reliably fixed. Another release like this, and people may start migrating to other distros. I stopped using fedora because the opted for new features over stability...
[04:40] <sebsebseb> Scarra3: I mean when the computer is first turned on or re booted, and Ubuntu has only just started to load up
[04:41] <sebsebseb> losher: well  Ubuntu opt for security updates over anything else :D
[04:41] <Scarra3> sebsebseb: also how do I set up desklets the ones that use cocky scripts
[04:41] <n8tuser> webbb82 -> i dont own a mini, have you tried increasing the resolution?
[04:41] <sebsebseb> Scarra3: don't know
[04:41] <newmini9> the mini 9 comes with some local installed apps I want to repackage as I plan on upgrading the mini 9 to ubuntu 8.10 or 9.04. Does anyone know what the util will be called?
[04:41] <Scarra3> sebsebseb: ok thx
[04:42] <axscode1> where can i disable ALT  on linux that moves the window when its is dragged?
[04:42] <astronut> so the 9.04 NBR installer somehow ate both my windows and recovery partitions - neither will boot correctly
[04:42] <henry> hihi
[04:42] <sebsebseb> losher: it seems every release  since  at least  8.04  has had a few common known issues
[04:42] <Guest42875> Want aask some Question
[04:42] <losher> sebsebseb: well I approve of a secure system. But I prefer a stable release over features, especially features I don't care about. Ext4 is nice, but it's not *necessary*
[04:42] <sebsebseb> losher: remember the nasty pulseaudio issues in 8.04 for example?
[04:42] <Guest42875> i installed UBUNTU server
[04:42] <Xcerca> whats the best way to .zip a file in ubuntu ?
[04:42] <nic1> how can i remove an installed package?
[04:43] <Guest42875> I don't have UI to login
[04:43] <nic1> what is the command?
[04:43] <joel> webbb82: you need to change your resolution probably. Can you see the bottom task bar/dock?
[04:43] <Guest42875> all in command base
[04:43] <n8tuser> Xcerca -> tar
[04:43] <nic1> sudo apt-get remove package-name
[04:43] <Scarra3> Does anyone know how I do these effects? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUSTw8Sr__8&feature=related
[04:43] <nic1> is this correct?
[04:43] <webbb82> yes
[04:43] <Scarra3> Around the mouse?
[04:43] <sebsebseb> losher: Maybe you should be using Debian Stable
[04:43] <shane2peru> Xcerca: in nautilus click on create archive
[04:43] <Guest42875> I just plugin a thumbdrive / pendrive into the server
[04:43] <webbb82> joel: yes i can
[04:43] <shane2peru> Xcerca: right click on the file you want to zip, and select create archive
[04:43] <Guest42875> may I know how can I get a file out from the tumbdrive?
[04:43] <Xcerca> n8tuser , shane2peru , thanks
[04:44] <sebsebseb> losher: Ext4 is the only  feature that is truely worth it when it comes to 9.04
[04:44] <sebsebseb> losher: unless  it fixes someones hardware issue
[04:44] <n8tuser> Guest42875 -> can you try a unique nick, hard to type your nick
[04:44] <sebsebseb> losher: for example
[04:44] <shane2peru> losher: they do have Hardy, which is LTS, and runs stable.
[04:44] <Xcerca> Scarra3 , in compiz it's highlight cursor
[04:44] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: yes he  went back to Hardy
[04:44] <Guest42875> how to unique nick?
[04:45] <Scarra3> Xcerca: ok thx I have been trying to figure that out
[04:45] <n8tuser> Guest42875 -> /nick nuname
[04:45] <nix-idioteque> hello friends, hello lovers.
[04:45] <sebsebseb> !love >  nix-idioteque
[04:45] <Xcerca> Scarra3 , i think you usualy have to press a button to do it, or you can make it always be like that
[04:45] <losher> sebsebseb: I may switch to debian, though for now I'm happy with 8.04 (hardy). It seems like a good compromise of stability & features. And since I almost never reboot it, I don't need ext4...
[04:45] <Irving> lol
[04:45] <necro\> so i take it there are some helpless souls needing help?
[04:46] <sebsebseb> losher: at what?
[04:46] <sebsebseb> losher: wrong one
[04:46] <n8tuser> necro\ -> yeah, you know much about keymapping you can assist me.
[04:46] <necro\> losher: jaunty when properly adjusted is more stable and responsive
[04:46] <sebsebseb> Irving: at what?
[04:46] <Irving> the bot
[04:46] <necro\> n8tuser: o?
[04:46] <necro\> keymapping mouse or kb
[04:46] <nix-idioteque> sebsebseb: Wow...  just...  Wow...
[04:46] <losher> necro\: someone called necro looking for souls to 'help'. That's scary....
[04:46] <sebsebseb> losher: ok, but do you even know what she sent him?
[04:46] <necro\> "D
[04:46] <Guest42875> is it a command?
[04:46] <n8tuser> necro\ -> how do i map a  alt_r + y to echo "hello world" ?
[04:46] <nix-idioteque> sebsebseb: had your heart broken a few times?
[04:46] <nix-idioteque> haha
[04:47] <sebsebseb> nix-idioteque: no
[04:47]  * losher thinks this channel is getting a bit surreal
[04:47] <necro\> n8tuser:
[04:47] <necro\> with bash?
[04:47] <nix-idioteque> losher: Surreal?  Big word, big boy :)
[04:47] <n8tuser> necro\ -> yah bash is the default shell
[04:47] <sebsebseb> losher: Ubuntu gaining  more market share on the desktop :)  is going to bring  loads of different types of people to this channal
[04:47] <necro\> n8tuser: ok gnome?
[04:48] <n8tuser> necro\ -> and yes gnome
[04:48] <necro\> ok
[04:48] <necro\> a. right click on applications and edit menu
[04:48] <Guest42875> my nick ---> henryloke
[04:48] <necro\> b. go to system tools and click to show the configuration menu
[04:48] <seidos> sebsebseb: any stats on ubuntu's market share?
[04:48] <necro\> c. open that and go to applications > nautilus
[04:48] <sebsebseb> seidos: nothing proper,  they can't measure Linux market share properly,  but I guess it has about 1 or 2%
[04:48] <losher> sebsebseb: I'm worried about getting more market share. If it gets too big, people will start writing viruses and bots targetting us. I'd rather stay obscure...
[04:48] <necro\> i forget b/c im not home sorry its either nautilus or metacity [i think the latter] that you can set global commands
[04:49] <n8tuser> necro\ -> command line way perhaps?  im not so big on gui
[04:49] <henry> test
[04:49] <necro\> so you set a global shortcut for command blah
[04:49] <henry> test123
[04:49] <sebsebseb> losher: I am not to worried about that, because of the way  Ubuntu and  other similar distros are designed
[04:49] <necro\> then edit command blah for:
[04:49] <merma> is ther somethng special i need to do to write win7 into a usb key with unetbootin?
[04:49] <henry> regarding the pendrive
[04:49] <necro\> gnome-terminal -e "echo "HELLO WORLD"
[04:49] <necro\> IN FACT
[04:49] <Guest81092> test
[04:49] <necro\> open a terminal and try the command
[04:49] <n8tuser> necro\ -> yah something like that, but i've perused so many tutorials i cant tell which is which anymore.
[04:49] <necro\> if it does what i say it does my path works
[04:50] <necro\> n8tuser: dont worry about that
[04:50] <necro\> i give complete instructions.
[04:50] <n8tuser> necro\ -> gnome-terminal? thats not a command is it?
[04:50] <henry> test
[04:50] <sebsebseb> losher: I have a feeling  that  Windows would still be the prime target, even if Ubuntu had say 20% market share on the desktop
[04:50] <necro\> http://www.codejacked.com/create-custom-keyboard-shortcuts-in-linux/
[04:51] <necro\> n8tuser: applications > accessories > terminal
[04:51] <n8tuser> necro\ -> i have a virtual console..or terminal
[04:51] <necro\> mm
[04:51] <necro\> actually
[04:51] <necro\> lemem think
[04:51] <necro\> i dont have a gtk linux near me just this second
[04:51] <necro\> gimme secs
[04:51] <henry9> how to change my name?
[04:51] <necro\> let me install X
[04:52] <henry9> hellow
[04:52] <n8tuser> necro\ -> okay, ill wait
[04:52] <DShepherd> is there a commandline too that can convert pdftotext or can read pdfs?
[04:52] <losher> sebsebseb: they do say that, but if the market is big enough, the motivation to write attack software will grow correspondingly. No current system is (or can be made) completely immune to viruses. We're just too small to bother about right now. Also, I dunno how much growth a support channel like this can sustain....
[04:52] <DShepherd> tool*
[04:52] <ajninami> Is there anything special I need to know about repartitioning Windows Vista for a dual-boot?
[04:52] <DShepherd> henry9: /nick newname
[04:52] <mneptok> losher: some faulty reasoning there
[04:52] <blueglasses> ubuntu needs more software, like for instance, a universal replacement for flash production, or a similar vectorial protocol wich can be freely distributed on the net, with a nice WORKING production set of tools with simple scripting
[04:52] <shane2peru> DShepherd: pdftotext
[04:53] <losher> mneptok: please enlighten me...
[04:53] <henry9> ok thanjks
[04:53] <henry9> Hi
[04:53] <shane2peru> DShepherd: you would have to read the man on it
[04:53] <KB1JWQ> blueglasses: I look forward to seeing your finished work.
[04:53] <henry9> I just plugin a pendrive to the server
[04:53] <DShepherd> shane2peru: lookee there...
[04:53] <DShepherd> shane2peru: thanks
[04:53] <shane2peru> DShepherd: seems to be part of the poppler-utils
[04:53] <mneptok> losher: Mac OS X currently enjoys close to a 10% markey share. by your logic, that would mean that 10% or so of malware would target OS X. that's clearly not the case.
[04:53] <henry9> may i know how can I move the file from the pendrive to the server?
[04:53] <necro\> gonna cost me 13M of diskspace to do this
[04:53] <n8tuser> ajninami -> id use the vistas tools to resize its own partition leaving you spaces for your ubuntu
[04:53] <mneptok> *market
[04:53] <shane2peru> DShepherd: so sudo apt-get install poppler-utils