[02:49] <salmiak> i solved the problem, zarephath_ . I wasn't in the sudoers list... :(
[02:49] <salmiak> isn't that weird?
[02:50] <Nihil85> hi! i have a problem with the ati driver. When i launch the installer it says that i have a different architecture (i686) and it cannot find a "x700" directory... But i have a pentium IV 2.66ghz and i always had a i386 architecture! what can i do?
[02:50] <PrimoTurbo> How do I configure Azureus so after a certain ratio it removes the torrent file?
[02:50] <Blissex> Nihil85: use the ATI drivers packaged for Ubuntu for example?
[02:50] <Blissex> PrimoTurbo: #Azureus probably...
[02:51] <zarephath_> salmiak: Kewl...didn't realize you were actually talking about "su" vs "sudo" otherwise I would've told you to check that :-)
[02:51] <_harm> Anyone know how i can use a proxy to connect to a ssh server?
[02:51] <salmiak> hehe ;D
[02:51] <Nihil85> Blissex: i used the drivers packaged from synaptic, those from the ati site, from the bash... i used everything
[02:52] <Blissex> Nihil85: then probably your card is not supported...
[02:52] <_harm> Nihil85 did u follow the wiki?
[02:52] <Blissex> Nihil85: but an X700 probably is.
[02:52] <_harm> !tell Blissex ati drivers
[02:52] <Blissex> Nihil85: check the ATI Wiki on #ATI's /topic
[02:52] <OrTigaS> how can config first user to have access in other partition drives(NTFS) as like root?
[02:52] <Nihil85> _harm:  i followed the italian wiki from www.wiki.ubuntu-it.org
[02:52] <Federico> hi, I loohin for people from Argentina..
[02:53] <_harm> sec nihil85 let me link u w. english
[02:53] <Nihil85> Blissex:  my card is supported
[02:53] <salmiak> but thanks for your help anyway, zarephath_  ;) now i don't have a reason to switch back to mandriva ;p
[02:53] <Mort_Cinder> Federico: im from argentina, but living in the UK
[02:54] <kalinka> I have a problem with WebHttrack,
[02:54] <_harm> Nihil85 > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ati%29
[02:54] <xophEr> Does evdev work OK in dapper? xev doesnt recognize my thumb buttons (mx500)..
[02:54] <Nihil85> _harm: thanks
[02:54] <_harm> no problem
[02:54] <_harm> Anyone know how i can use a proxy to connect to a ssh server?
[02:54] <kalinka> I installed it and after its installation, I found that it has a problem opening the browser window.
[02:54] <kalinka> I have FireFoox 1.5 Installed on Ubuntu 5.10
[02:54] <Th3Wh0> Federico did you try at #ubuntu-es?
[02:55] <kalinka> can any one help me regarding THat?
[02:55] <alapzaj> how can i change the postfix  queue directory?
[02:55] <Federico> hi mort cinder..
[02:55] <eXistenZ> Has anyone got his 5.1 surround to work?
[02:55] <Mort_Cinder> hi federico :)
[02:55] <Federico> no i try now, thanks
[02:55] <OrTigaS> how can i config "first" user to have access in other partition drives(NTFS) as like root?
[02:55] <Th3Wh0> no hay de que
[02:56] <NikosGr> chat.google.com is for gaim?
[02:56] <Federico> mort no se como mandarte un privado
[02:57] <NikosGr> i cant conect to google chat
[02:57] <LinuxJones> OrTigaS: >> http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/system_administration_books/ubuntu_starter_guide/ch05.html
[02:57] <OrTigaS> okay thanks LinuxJones
[02:58] <LinuxJones> OrTigaS: there is quite a bit of stuff in that tutorial that you should not do so don't use it as any kind of official reference for other topics.
[02:59] <Federico> mort are you there?
[02:59] <OrTigaS> when i'm root i can access the NTFS file so... that thing i want to have access on the first user
[03:00] <salmiak> if i want to remove the evolution package, it prompts that it will remove ubuntu-desktop too...is it ok to continue? sounds like i'll destroy the system if i'll remove it
[03:00] <_jason> !ubuntu-desktop
[03:00] <ubotu> well, ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading
[03:00] <dooglus> ubuntu-desktop is an empty package
[03:01] <Mort_Cinder> yep, i opened a dialog window to u
[03:01] <EnUm> hello
[03:01] <salmiak> dooglus, it just is there to...do what? nothing?
[03:02] <Mort_Cinder> salmiak: it has something to do with dependencies or something
[03:02] <rpedro> !grub
[03:02] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[03:03] <salmiak> ok, so it's perfectly OK to remove whichever package that has ubuntu-desktop as a dependency?
[03:03] <EnUm> i have the following problem:i have transformed a avi file into mpg format and then made out of it a dvd format with video_ts and audio_ts.then i have made the samt thing with another file.how can i noe but the both video_ts directories together?
[03:03] <EnUm> they have both the same file names,like x1.vob
[03:03] <Federico> hi, do you want speak spanish or english?
[03:04] <Mort_Cinder> salmiak: yes, i did i for evolution with no problems
[03:04] <Mort_Cinder> federico: i dont mind, spanish its ok
[03:04] <rpedro> !sata
[03:04] <ubotu> rpedro: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:04] <_jason> Federico: english here, you can speak spanish in #ubuntu-es
[03:05] <Federico> sorry _jason, that ok
[03:09] <ubuntu> ciao
[03:09] <rpedro> can someone help me with a problem with grub bootloader?
[03:09] <ubuntu> bootloader
[03:10] <Curtman> How do I stop services from running at startup permanently?  (So that they won't go back after I apt-get upgrade)
[03:10] <ubuntu> i don't now...
[03:10] <Senilix> Curtman: remove the package? :)
[03:11] <kevor> don't reboot ;)
[03:11] <Hexidigital> oh, Lord... forgive me, for I have sinned... I have used Microsoft Windows for over one day on my new laptop... But I swear, once this fresh Ubuntu installation is complete, I will remain faithful
[03:11] <Curtman> Senilix: There has to be a better way.. For example, I never asked for mdadm to be installed in the first place, and every time I remove it, it comes back next upgrade.
[03:11] <kevor> Hexidigital: we don't mind, as long as you have seen the errors of you ways
[03:12] <Senilix> well, i don't know..
[03:12] <Curtman> :(
[03:12] <Hexidigital> kevor, what is my pennance?... 3 Hail Mary's, 2 shots of Jager, and....?
[03:12] <rpedro> grub is installed on the mbr of first hdd, and when booting it boots from another linux installation on a sata disk (sda), but if I use the dapped cd and select 'boot from hardisk' option it boots ok (from /dev/hdb)
[03:12] <Hexidigital> :)
[03:12] <kevor> Hexidigital: give a little support on this channel? :P
[03:13] <Hexidigital> kevor, i do my best (with what i know)
[03:13] <kevor> Hexidigital: actually linux is better for laptops because it uses less CPU when idle ;)
[03:13] <rpedro> I used lilo before with kubuntu 5.10 on same partition with no problem...
[03:13] <Nihil85> hi! i've installed the ATI drivers (with a lot of difficulties) and now that i did reboot, when i run ati configuration manager, it says that "Driver does not provide the FireGL X11 extension" so the panel is useless. what can i do?
[03:14] <Hexidigital> kevor, the only thing (that was) holding me back, was my wireless chipset... (i've heard stories on both sides about compatability)
[03:14] <nmhbm> So I was trying out the live disc and got this msg when the ubuntu logo comes up, guess it's just before going into X, anyway: Failed to staret the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly . Would uoi like to view the Xserver output to diagnose the problem?, I ofc pressed yes and did just get info about the OS, what should I do?
[03:15] <Hexidigital> nmhbm, try "start gdm" or "startx", and let us know what it says
[03:15] <FlameSphere> whats the site for the restricted music formats?
[03:15] <nmhbm> Hexidigital, okay, eh, I have to start the install over again but it won't take long, comes online with the phone in a min :)
[03:15] <Hexidigital> ubotu, tell FlameSphere about mp3
[03:16] <FlameSphere> Hexidigital, thanks, and nice name
[03:16] <Hexidigital> Jowi, heya bud
[03:16] <Jowi> Hey :)
[03:16] <Hexidigital> thx, FlameSphere
[03:16] <Jowi> anyone knows where to change default charset from ANSI to UTF-8?
[03:17] <linux_galore> hmm
[03:18] <nmhbm> Hexidigital, I got a radeon x700, heard something about there are no drivers to it yet, could that be true?
[03:18] <linux_galore> Jowi: in the application usually
[03:18] <Jowi> linux_galore: yeah, problem is, not all apps has got that option.
[03:18] <Hexidigital> nmhbm, yes, that is possible... ATI cards are very picky about what OS they are used with...
[03:18] <nmhbm> damn
[03:19] <linux_galore> Jowi: then you end up having to hack the text conf file
[03:19] <Mort_Cinder> can i ask an xgl/compiz related question here?
[03:19] <nmhbm> what to do if so?
[03:19] <Hexidigital> nmhbm, Linux does not like ATI
[03:19] <Jowi> linux_galore: nah, there must be a dpkg-reconfigure for this one
[03:20] <nmhbm> Hexidigital, how come? :)
[03:20] <Hexidigital> Mort_Cinder, you can, but your best bet would be to ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:20] <Nihil85> hi! i've installed the ATI drivers (with a lot of difficulties) and now that i did reboot, when i run ati configuration manager, it says that "Driver does not provide the FireGL X11 extension" so the panel is useless. what can i do?
[03:20] <animato> hello, i'm trying to extact wav off a cd with sound juicer, and i get the following error "sound juicer could not extract that cd, reason : could not link pipeline"
[03:20] <animato> what do i do?
[03:20] <nmhbm> Hexidigital, what should I do about it then?
[03:20] <Mort_Cinder> Hexidigital, ok i'll try there thanx
[03:20] <Hexidigital> nmhbm, honestly, i dont know... i know nVidia works the best (out of box) with some simple configs
[03:20] <Hexidigital> Mort_Cinder, np
[03:21] <nmhbm> Hexidigital, okay, thanks anyway
[03:21] <juwita> hello
[03:21] <Hexidigital> juwita, hello
[03:21] <linux_galore> Jowi: just run the app as a user then hack the ~/.gnome/appname  file
[03:22] <linux_galore> some of the sis cheap chipsets work ok
[03:22] <Jowi> linux_galore: i refuse that. there must be a system wide setting laying around in /etc somewhere :)
[03:22] <linux_galore> Jowi: not really
[03:23] <linux_galore> Jowi: Linux is modular
[03:23] <linux_galore> Jowi: there is a general system font setting but thats usually for when X isnt running
[03:24] <Jowi> linux_galore: yeah. hmm... another option would be to disable that charset in the kernel itself.
[03:25] <Hexidigital> Jowi, wont' that "break" things?
[03:25] <linux_galore> Jowi: also depends on how the apps is compiled in some cases
[03:25] <Jowi> Hexidigital: nope, you set another charset as default instead of this ANSI that I never had in the first place with other kernels
[03:25] <Hexidigital> ah
[03:26] <Jowi> hmm, "dpkg-reconfigure locales" doesn't even list the damn ansi thing
[03:26] <linux_galore> I had a gnome app with a really bad font setup, only way to fix it was edit the source code
[03:27] <steve_343> hi all
[03:27] <Hexidigital> steve_343, hi
[03:27] <Jowi> hi steve_343
[03:28] <steve_343> where can i go to see forums of previously resolved problems?
[03:28] <Hexidigital> www.ubuntuforums.org
[03:28] <Hexidigital> steve_343,  ^^
[03:28] <steve_343> thanks :)
[03:28] <Hexidigital> steve_343, np
[03:29] <nagi> hello.
[03:29] <Hexidigital> nagi, hello
[03:29] <nagi> h.a.y.?
[03:29] <Jowi> steve_343: https://wiki.ubuntulinux.com also have some goodies
[03:30] <Jowi> !locales
[03:30] <ubotu> somebody said locales was at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LocaleConf
[03:32] <Jowi> linux_galore: found it: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf"
[03:32] <ompaul> steve_343, there is also the https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
[03:33] <_Diane> good morning, does anyone have any familiarity w/ installing xampp?
[03:33] <steve_343> linux is scary stuff
[03:34] <Mort_Cinder> steve_343: it gets better, trust me
[03:35] <steve_343> I'm hoping it will I want to learn to eventually program :S
[03:35] <ubuntu_> I need the restricted music site one more time
[03:35] <_Diane> maybe a basic question.....when i download something, it goes into my download folder
[03:35] <[blah] > how can I display my system info?
[03:36] <OmniColos> Hexidigital, I had to edit the iftab to put the wifi on wlan0
[03:36] <_jason> [blah] : what info in particular?
[03:36] <zorglu1> yep kde4+ubuntu will be real nice for widespread adoption
[03:36] <_Diane> how do i extract them when i can't log in as root
[03:36] <pablo> hi!
[03:36] <[blah] > _jason, cpu type, sse/sse2 etc
[03:36] <ubuntu_> I need the restricted music site one more time. sorry
[03:36] <pablo> im trying to do: cat file.name.of.your.boot.floppy.zdsk > /dev/hda
[03:36] <pablo> i booted from ubuntu live cd
[03:36] <Jowi> !tell ubuntu_ about mp3
[03:36] <pablo> but i have no permision over hda
[03:36] <ubuntu_> Can you get wine on live cd
[03:37] <pablo> how can i solve this?
[03:37] <[blah] > basically i wanna get cpuinfo
[03:37] <Hexidigital> OmniColos, what laptop / chipset?
[03:37] <_jason> [blah] : cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:37] <[blah] > thanx
[03:37] <ubuntu_> Can you get wine on live cd
[03:37] <_jason> [blah] : you could also look into 'lshw' command
[03:38] <ompaul> steve_343, I would be inclined to disagree with you, it is like a company with all the work going on in the grounds and you can wander around to anyone and engage with them, the access is high, however if you walk up to someone and expect them to deal with you without first discovering the protocols of engagement then you may consider it scarey, we have tonnes of information, on almost any aspect of it, in the Ubuntu case it is rather distributed an
[03:38] <ompaul> d high volume. If you as for specific help you will get it, if you define what you want to achieve as an end result you will get a much better assistance :-) enjoy
[03:38] <hastesaver> huh? My clock suddenly started showing UTC time all by itself!
[03:38] <[blah] > _jason,  Is there anyway to know if my cpu is 775, socket-a, socket-t etc?
[03:39] <Jowi> pablo: you can mount hda1 with the umask=000 option
[03:39] <ompaul> hastesaver, depends on how you installed Ubuntu, and if you ran that popular but very broken option between boots of Ubuntu it can be distrubing
[03:39] <steve_343> Is there a definitive linux documentation tho?
[03:40] <hastesaver> ompaul, what option is that?
[03:40] <rdt21> I'm looking for a website that gathers basic software for Ubuntu beyond the initial install. But I can't remember the name of it and so far I haven't found it with Google.
[03:40] <_Diane> ompaul, i want to extract xampp and am told i don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "/etc/opt"
[03:41] <pablo> Jowi: should y do this?: sudo mount /hda1 /tmp umask=000 ?
[03:41] <ompaul> steve_343, for Ubuntu I would say start with clicking on the little "life saver" icon on the top panel bar, but definitive it is not possible, even if there was something for one of those other platforms would it have changed since 2001 and now? :-)
[03:41] <rdt21> Ah, never mind. It is EasyUbuntu and was listed in the Wikipedia entry for Ubuntu. Never mind.
[03:41] <hastesaver> steve_343, the "man" pages are the oldest :)
[03:41] <gsuveg> its possible to install non-static opera under dapper ?
[03:41] <Mort_Cinder> rdt21: automatix does a similar job
[03:41] <Jowi> pablo: or "sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/mountpoint"
[03:42] <_Diane> another question, if i have 2 hard drives, can i make a "dual boot" w/ ubuntu on one hard drive and windows on the other?
[03:42] <_Diane> if so, how do I do that?
[03:42] <Mort_Cinder> gsuveg: only the static works for me
[03:42] <Jowi> pablo: that will give you write permission for the drive
[03:42] <steve_343> with a boot loader like gub
[03:42] <ompaul> hastesaver, that would be the operating system that I don't run on any of my machines or wifes computers which are all x86/amd style
[03:42] <rdt21> Mort: I'll check it out, thanks.
[03:42] <gsuveg> Mort_Cinder: but the fonts are insane uglys :((
[03:42] <steve_343> grub even
[03:42] <kbrooks> rdt21: um
[03:43] <kbrooks> rdt21: where was EU listed in that entry?
[03:43] <steve_343> ok chears for the help guys i may be back :)
[03:43] <codo> hello , i am installing drake
[03:43] <codo> i wanted to resume dpkg
[03:43] <codo> how to do that ?
[03:43] <hastesaver> ompaul, oh, no; I'm only using Ubuntu. It's probably a KDE bug (it was my kde clock (klock?) that went crazy)
[03:43] <kbrooks> uh...
[03:43] <codo> becuase while dist-upgrading soemthing happened, and it halted
[03:43] <Mort_Cinder> gsuveg: in the latest weekly they are quite good for me
[03:43] <codo> how to resume ?
[03:43] <Jowi> gonna reboot to see if the settings stick. brb
[03:43] <kbrooks> "Easy Ubuntu Application - installation of useful programs for beginners - not recommended by Ubuntu"
[03:44] <codo> dpkg -reconfigure etc ?
[03:44] <_Diane> am i invisible here?
[03:44] <kbrooks> what does that mean?
[03:44] <rdt21> kbrooks: At the bottom under "Unofficial online resources".
[03:44] <gsuveg> Mort_Cinder: from opera desktop blog ??
[03:44] <Mort_Cinder> gsuveg: yep
[03:44] <kbrooks> rdt21: yes, i'm there
[03:44] <ompaul> _Diane, I don't know the answer to that, where are you looking at that information, if I can see the package you are trying to use maybe I can be of some assistance
[03:44] <kbrooks> _Diane: no
[03:44] <codo> dpkg help please
[03:44] <kbrooks> codo
[03:44] <kbrooks> !tell codo about ask
[03:44] <rdt21> kbrooks: "Easy Ubuntu Application - installation of useful programs for beginners - not recommended by Ubuntu"
[03:44] <gsuveg> Mort_Cinder: build 256 ?
[03:44] <ompaul> codo, dpkg -l lists stuff, can you be more specific?
[03:45] <_Diane> i downloaded xampp from apachefriends...it's a lampp server info.
[03:45] <kbrooks> rdt21: what does "not recommended by Ubuntu" mean?
[03:45] <Mort_Cinder> gsuveg: yep
[03:45] <PrimoTurbo> Where do I use moz_disable_pango=1 to disable pango for firefox and to speed it up?
[03:45] <codo> hmm
[03:45] <Mort_Cinder> gsuveg: get the dapper version
[03:45] <gsuveg> its ugly for me :(
[03:45] <_Diane> when i do -l it tells me it's been downloaded to my downloads, but i can't do anything else because i can't log in as root
[03:46] <rdt21> kbrooks: Damned if I know. I'm a brand new Ubuntu/Linux user. I suspect it hasn't been officially sanctioned.
[03:46] <pablo> Jowi: says hda1 doesnt exist
[03:46] <Mort_Cinder> gsugev: u running breezy or dapper?
[03:46] <kbrooks> rdt21: well, it would be stupid for them to. :-)
[03:46] <_Diane> when i go to a terminal and enter sudo or su it won't take my password
[03:46] <pablo> i tried to cfdisk but ends with fatal error
[03:46] <_Diane> i just want to untar the file and install the server
[03:46] <PrimoTurbo> when I add the command firefox %u moz_disable_pango=1 and then open firefox it opens google with a search results for moz_disable_pango=1 where do I input this command then to disable pango, it's not in about:config either. Any ideas? thanks.
[03:46] <ompaul> kbrooks, take it up with wikipedia, perhaps it not being in the Ubuntu release would be a kinder way of saying it, and require explaination as to why it is not there ... etc etc etc and offtopic for here
[03:47] <rdt21> I'm bookmarking it for later when I install Ubuntu again someday.
[03:47] <ompaul> kbrooks, :)_
[03:47] <codo> kbrooks: i was doing dist-upgrade to dapper drake
[03:47] <gsuveg> Mort_Cinder: what fonts are u installed ?
[03:47] <codo> when it suddenly gnome-terminal i was using crashed
[03:47] <avalost> anyone have any ideas as to when flash 8 will be available for linux?
[03:47] <codo> so how to restart the whole install process again ?
[03:47] <ompaul> rdt21, if your waiting more than a day or two then I suggest you check back as things change fast in this ubuntu
[03:47] <rdt21> I've got one other nagging question. When I last installed Ubuntu on my second hard drive Windows XP was listed at the bottom of my GRUB menu. Anyone know how to change the order or the default item in that list? I couldn't get grub-set-default to do anything.
[03:48] <pablo> i need to cat romimage > dev/hda (booted from ubuntu live cd) but have no permison over hda drive
[03:48] <nagi> avalost, is dificult to say a date
[03:48] <pablo> Jowi: any other idea?
[03:48] <Mort_Cinder> gsuveg: dunno. i install the ones from automatix before upgrading.
[03:48] <ompaul> !automatix
[03:48] <ubotu> methinks automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[03:48] <codo> !dpkg
[03:48] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, codo
[03:48] <pablo> Jowi: i dont konw wat ff does the hd have
[03:48] <kbrooks> ompaul: thanks :P
[03:48] <daryl> Good morning everyone.
[03:48] <gsuveg> Mort_Cinder: thx anyway ;)
[03:48] <codo> man, i cant open with firefox too! its screwed up here :9
[03:48] <pablo> Jowi: ff= fs= filesystem sorry
[03:49] <codo> :(
[03:49] <ompaul> codo, with an install CD :-) sorry your not specific enough
[03:49] <daryl> Is this the right channel to ask a question about WoW and Wine?
[03:49] <rdt21> !easyubuntu
[03:49] <_Diane> ompaul why can't i log in as su, when i enter my password, i get an authentication failed message
[03:49] <codo> ompaul: i did upgrade from repos over net!
[03:49] <Mort_Cinder> gsuveg: try changing the fonts in opera to bitstream vera serif. looks much better
[03:49] <ompaul> !root
[03:49] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:49] <ompaul> _Diane, ^^^^^ read that
[03:49] <baizon> hi
[03:49] <gsuveg> Mort_Cinder: lemmese
[03:49] <Neter> hey, hi everybody, can't anyone say me how to upgrade to kernel 2.6.16 trought apt-get?
[03:50] <ompaul> !tell codo about upgrade
[03:50] <baizon> how can i change from the prism54 driver to the ndiswrapper?
[03:50] <ompaul> codo, read that message from the bot thanks
[03:50] <codo> ompaul: i know that it is dist-upgrade
[03:50] <Neter> my source list is to 2.6.12
[03:51] <Mort_Cinder> gsuveg: the interface ones
[03:51] <gsuveg> Mort_Cinder: yes. right. thanks
[03:51] <ompaul> codo, so you change s/hoary/badger/dapper/g (One generation jump at at time) and then you >>sudo apt-get update<< and then do the dist-upgrade, if your moving please take the conversation to #ubuntu+1 that is the dapper channel
[03:51] <baizon> how can i change from the prism54 driver to the ndiswrapper (pci)?
[03:52] <daryl> I just compiled wine w/the WoW patch, and when I try to run Wine by itself, it says: wine --version
[03:52] <daryl> grr mt
[03:52] <daryl> I just compiled wine w/the WoW patch, and when I try to run Wine by itself, it says: bash: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory
[03:52] <codo> ompaul: thanks a lot!
[03:52] <codo> well i got soln to my problem, had to use -f option thats it.
[03:52] <ompaul> codo, enjoy :-)
[03:53] <ompaul> codo, hmm that is not what we expect, however your now happy
[03:53] <codo> ompaul: ;)
[03:53] <ompaul> !enter
[03:53] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[03:53] <daryl> hehe
[03:53] <codo> hah haha
[03:53] <gcj> hi all, after the last set of X updates, I can't open the Gnome Applications menu any more, can anyone help? (it flashes up, then immediately reduces to a tiny square with no icons)
[03:54] <codo> ompaul: are you with ubuntu-in group ?
[03:54] <ompaul> codo, don't understand that question
[03:55] <codo> ompaul: there is an indian ubuntu group, i hear
[03:55] <daryl> Does someone have a moment to help me with a Wine/World of Warcraft Question?
[03:55] <ompaul> codo, #ubuntu-in maybe the irc channel for them, no I am not in that part of the planet
[03:55] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> when i will install ubuntu, apart from the drivers what r the basic i need to install with it ?
[03:55] <codo> ompaul: ewww, arent you indian :P ?
[03:56] <ompaul> codo, no, not at all :-)
[03:56] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> ok, i am new to it, but i need to know wassup
[03:56] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> please guys
[03:56] <codo> ompaul: well your name sounded so. Pardon my ignorance ;)
[03:57] <ompaul> p_a_t_r_i_c_k, slow up, there are 700+ here, and you want to get a disk from download section on www.ubuntu.com
[03:57] <Mort_Cinder> p_a_t_r_i_c_k: just install the cd
[03:57] <kimrhh> hi, has anybody in here had any luck installing acroread on ubuntu breezy ?
[03:57] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> okie
[03:57] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> thnks
[03:57] <Capilla> Ola?
[03:57] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> i heard about compiling the watever
[03:57] <Capilla> espaol?
[03:58] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> well, i hope that i can get help with all that
[03:58] <ompaul> !es
[03:58] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:58] <avalost> Capilla: #ubuntu-es
[03:58] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> btw, where can i get help ?
[03:58] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> to compile and whatnot ?
[03:58] <avalost> p_a_t_r_i_c_k: here
[03:58] <ompaul> !tell kimrhh about multiverse
[03:58] <ompaul> kimrhh, there is a native package for it, however you need to attach multiverse for it.
[03:58] <avalost> p_a_t_r_i_c_k: you won't need to compile anything on a fresh install
[03:59] <kimrhh> ompaul: ok
[03:59] <ompaul> kimrhh, try evince it might help you, it is for reading that type of doc
[03:59] <pianoboy3333> Is there a way to get the packages that I needed to build audacity beta? I'm trying to write a howto.
[03:59] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> well, i mean on the softwares eventually
[03:59] <avalost> the only things you may opt to compile are things not in the package list or specialty items
[03:59] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> i will actually install it and see wassup
[03:59] <gcj> hi all, after the last set of X updates, I can't open the Gnome Applications menu any more, can anyone help?
[03:59] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> thnks anyway
[03:59] <avalost> ubuntu has over 15,000 packages most likely you just need to apt-get it
[03:59] <ompaul> pianoboy3333, to do that kind of stuff I suggest that you join #ubuntu-motu they may help you more than asking here :)
[03:59] <pianoboy3333> ok
[03:59] <kimrhh> ompaul: I have multiverse, but there's no acroread package
[04:00] <ompaul> kimrhh,  version ?
[04:00] <Mort_Cinder> p_a_t_r_i_c_k: most programs dont need compiling, its just clicking
[04:00] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> okie
[04:00] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> cool
[04:00] <kimrhh> ompaul: only acroread-debian-files
[04:00] <kimrhh> ompaul: version of ?
[04:01] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> i heard that ppl talked about packages
[04:01] <ompaul> kimrhh, ubuntu - apt-cache policy acroread Candidate: 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1  500 http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages
[04:01] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> i was just thinking that it would have been crucial to have a package installed aswell
[04:01] <gsuveg> Mort_Cinder: cool. new tray icon for opera ;)
[04:02] <ompaul> p_a_t_r_i_c_k, it has almost anything you want, it has office software browsers, email, im, compilers, games multimedia and so on
[04:02] <ompaul> p_a_t_r_i_c_k, packages.ubuntu.com have a look in there under breezy
[04:02] <any> Hi
[04:03] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> thnks
[04:03] <serp> why doesn't gnome terminal accept alt+leftarrow?
[04:03] <raboof> hi. i'm trying to install ubuntu (6beta2) to an external usb drive using http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811
[04:04] <Jowi> raboof: for dapper, /join #ubuntu+1
[04:04] <ompaul> raboof, that matter is for the dapper irc channel #ubuntu+1
[04:04] <raboof> ok, thanks
[04:04] <any> When I boot my computer with a sdcard in the reader the card is working fine, but if I remove it and, then, I replace it in the reader my card isn't found.
[04:04] <_Diane> ompaul thanks for that link, i found my answer and am untarring the file right now.
[04:05] <arcade> Hmm... driver support for Philips SPC900NC web camera in ubuntu? (5/11) ?
[04:05] <raboof> ah, i see now, the topic scrolled off :)
[04:05] <arcade> That is, the driver support is lacking, but what do I need to get it? :)
[04:07] <ompaul> arcade, to kick philips for it, it is their fault that they do not make it available for your platform of choice, :-) if enough people complain they have to move, if everyone says nothing then they get away with it, there  is a link here that _may_ help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam
[04:07] <simonpca> plop
[04:07] <arcade> ompaul: Oh, I've already fired off an email kicking philips for it. ;)
[04:07] <Jowi> arcade: go to http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ and follow the instructions. you should be able to see which driver you need for that camera :)
[04:07] <arcade> ompaul: That is routine when I buy hardware where the manufacturer doesn't provide drivers. :D
[04:07] <ompaul> _Diane, what is bugging me is what is that actual software and its job?
[04:07] <serp> how do I change the default character encoding in Gnome Terminal?
[04:08] <ompaul> arcade, I only buy supported
[04:08] <ompaul> any, you need to umount it first not just unplug it, this is done on the desktop by right click and umount
[04:08] <xx5> hello everybody. i have installed ubuntu 6.06 beta 2. i use a medion 7134 tv card. but there is no sound when i watch tv. all other sound is working. anyone an idea?
[04:08] <arcade> ompaul: My local store didn't have any supported cam in stock.
[04:08] <_Diane> ompaul it's a lampp installation for apache, mysql, perl and php
[04:09] <arcade> ompaul: And my girlfriend would get _nasty_ if I didn't manage to get hold of a webcam today
[04:09] <arcade> ;)
[04:09] <arcade> ompaul: Not getting it to _work_ on the other hand, she won't be kicking me for _that_ .. so ;D
[04:11] <serp> how do I change locale?
[04:11] <arcade> Added: deb http://blognux.free.fr/debian unstable main
[04:11] <eXistenZ> How can I change my default image viewer from "image viewer" to gThumb?
[04:11] <arcade> .. but I apt-get update prints 'Ign' when blognus.free.fr is mentioned.. I'm guessing that means 'ignore' .
[04:12] <daryl> Does someone have a moment to help me with a Wine/World of Warcraft Question?
[04:12] <daryl> I'm getting a response that I couldn't find in the HowTos
[04:14] <daryl> Anyone?
[04:14] <Jowi> eXistenZ: "image viewer" is the name for gthumb
[04:14] <_Diane> ompaul thanks for all your help. i gotta go right now.
[04:15] <eXistenZ> Jowi, Do you recommend a better image viewer?
[04:16] <arcade> Ah.. damn.. no 64bits packages .. hmm .. is it possible to use 32bit packages with ubuntu 64bits?
[04:16] <Jowi> eXistenZ: depends on your needs really. eog (eye of gnome) is simple. gtksee is a clone of ACDSee
[04:16] <Talisker> http
[04:16] <Talisker> porn
[04:17] <linux_galore> arcade: yes
[04:17] <Talisker> http porn
[04:17] <arcade> linux_galore: How do I get apt to find them? :)
[04:17] <daryl> Excuse me, I'm new to Linux, and having a problem compiling/installing Wine for World of Warcraft.  Does someone have a moment?
[04:17] <arcade> deb http://blognux.free.fr/debian unstable main   << reports 404 NOT FOUND, which I guess is because it tries to find 64 bits packages.
[04:17] <linux_galore> arcade: edit your sources.conf file
[04:18] <linux_galore> arcade: at the moment ti just points apt to the 64 bit packages
[04:18] <arcade> Hmm .. sources.conf .. hmm
[04:18] <Jowi> daryl: you might get better response in here if you tell what the exact problem is.
[04:19] <daryl> Thanks Jowi, I am unfamiliar with the format of the chat room.
[04:19] <daryl> I just compiled wine w/the WoW patch, and when I try to run Wine by itself, it says: bash: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory
[04:19] <Jowi> !wow
[04:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, wow is To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[04:19] <arcade> linux_galore: do you mean apt.conf ?
[04:19] <linux_galore> .. /etc/apt/sources.conf
[04:19] <arcade> linux_galore: I don't hae that file, nor a manpage for that file .
[04:20] <arcade> linux_galore: But I do have a manpage for apt.conf, which talks about Architecture ..
[04:20] <daryl> !wow
[04:20] <ubotu> it has been said that wow is To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[04:20] <RandolphCarter> Cedega is probably your best bet for getting WoW running
[04:20] <daryl> ah thanks, I read those, and thats who I got to where i am
[04:20] <daryl> oh?
[04:21] <daryl> what about the wine that i'm working with, why is it giving me this error message?
[04:21] <linux_galore> sorry /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:21] <RandolphCarter> daryl: I'd read those wikis linked from ubotu
[04:22] <linux_galore> arcade: its a simple text file
[04:22] <BSA> hi again
[04:22] <arcade> linux_galore: Uhm, I know. ;)  I'm trying to find out how to configure the $(ARCH) thing now. :)
[04:23] <linux_galore> arcade: only thing you really need is the 32 bit version of firefox
[04:23] <arcade> ahh, there.:D
[04:23] <arrick1> hey guys what is the command for checking what hd are hooked to your system, mounted and unmounted?
[04:23] <daryl> RandolphCarter.  Forgive me, I was following the wikis.  And when I was following them, it gave me a error not described.  So I searched all the forums, and couldn't find an answer.  so thats why I was asking why Wine says.  bash: cd: /home/daryl/desktop: No Such File or directory.  "Desktop" should be capitalized.  but for some reason its looking in the wrong spot
[04:23] <arcade> linux_galore: No, I really need to get the webcam-detection-thingie to work, and they haven't compiled it for 64bits, it's on some non-official site.
[04:24] <RandolphCarter> daryl: have you pasted all the output up until that error anywhere?
[04:24] <linux_galore> arcade: I just download the tar.ball from the mozilla home page and unpacked it in /usr/lib and created a link to /usr/local/bin  to the firefox binary
[04:24] <daryl> um sure..
[04:24] <RandolphCarter> I guess the easiest way to fix it would be to ln -s Desktop desktop
[04:24] <daryl> you want me to pasge that in here Randolph?
[04:24] <arcade> linux_galore: I'm not interested in firefox. :)
[04:24] <RandolphCarter> but that's an ugly hack ^_^
[04:25] <daryl> hahah
[04:25] <daryl> its all good
[04:25] <linux_galore> arcade: just compile the app then
[04:25] <linux_galore> arcade: download the source and compile it, no biggie
[04:26] <BSA> ok when i click on system>administration>networking it tells me its loading then it does nothing
[04:26] <daryl> Randolph, would renaming Desktop cause anything else a problem?
[04:26] <arcade> linux_galore: What I probably should do is just fetch the kernel sources and patch'em with the proper usb drivers for the webcam.
[04:26] <RandolphCarter> daryl: I wouldn't rename desktop - could you paste all the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[04:26] <BSA> coupled with a warning "could not look up the internet address for . "
[04:27] <BSA> at my login
[04:27] <daryl> Randolph, sure.  let me clean it up first though.  or do you want me to leave it exactly as it is?
[04:27] <arcade> Problem with compiling for ubuntu for me is that the gcc 4 vs gcc 3 thing is confusing the hell out of me. ;)
[04:27] <RandolphCarter> daryl: better paste it as it is I guess :)
[04:27] <daryl> ok.  i'll go do it now
[04:28] <ITSa341> Hey, I have a p4 with ht  do I want to use the 686 smp kernel or standard 686?
[04:28] <arcade> linux_galore: Last time I _used_ to compile things, I was using gcc 2.95 on Solaris .. time has been moving a tad too fast for me ;)
[04:29] <nagi> bye.
[04:30] <daryl> Randolph, I just posted it under user name daryl256
[04:30] <babo> Does anyone know where ubuntu stores it's files icons ? I want to use them for a webpage ...
[04:31] <daryl> Randolph: I wasn't able to post all of the information, I hope thats enough.
[04:31] <RandolphCarter> daryl: ahh, thanks, I'll just check it
[04:33] <RandolphCarter> daryl: hmm, tried './wine' ?
[04:33] <daryl> nope, let me try
[04:33] <daryl> randolph, that was interesting.
[04:34] <daryl> do i normally need to type ./wine?
[04:34] <daryl> instead of just wine?
[04:34] <cg> how to ls and sort by file name?
[04:34] <RandolphCarter> daryl: because GNU/Linux is generally safe, secure and stuff, it never just assumes you want to run a file in the current path
[04:35] <daryl> Randoph, ok let me try it now then.  thank ou so very much.  : )
[04:35] <RandolphCarter> daryl: otherwise, somebody could just give you a cd with a trojanned 'ls' or something.  if something's in the current path, you need to ./ it :)
[04:35] <RandolphCarter> np's
[04:35] <daryl> why are your messages in red, and some in black? is that private tells?
[04:36] <RandolphCarter> xchat automagically highlights lines with your name in :)
[04:36] <daryl> ah cool : )
[04:36] <we3za> hi all
[04:36] <muep> hi
[04:37] <we3za> how are you?
[04:37] <we3za> i;m noob in ubuntu
[04:37] <we3za> and linux
[04:37] <we3za> could someone plese help me
[04:37] <we3za> to install new firefox
[04:38] <we3za> i've download it intoo my desktop
[04:38] <Jowi> !firefox
[04:38] <_jason> !enter
[04:38] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[04:38] <we3za> but i cant insttal it
[04:38] <Jowi> !firefox1.5
[04:38] <we3za> sorry
[04:38] <daryl> Randolph, I think i made one other mistake, I extracted wine-o.9.6 to my desktop, before starting the compile and install.  did i do something wrong there?
[04:38] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:38] <_jason> we3za: you are using breezy badger?
[04:38] <cg> we3za: it's easy
[04:38] <we3za> i'm not sure
[04:38] <_jason> we3za: open a terminal and type 'lsb_release -c' without the quotes
[04:39] <cg> goto the wiki and search firefox
[04:39] <RandolphCarter> daryl: that shouldn't really affect it, it may've been something to do with the configure script
[04:39] <[blah] > is there anyway of finding out what type of socket my cpu is without openning it up?
[04:39] <hastesaver> we3za, don't do that
[04:39] <hastesaver> !tell we3za about firefox1.5
[04:39] <zielony> 4000 MB is enough for dapper ?
[04:39] <_jason> zielony: /should/ be
[04:39] <we3za> yes
[04:40] <we3za> breezy badger
[04:40] <we3za> thank you
[04:40] <daryl> I just got the wine command to work doing: daryl@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ ./wine-0.9.6/wine MozillaControl1712.exe
[04:40] <Jowi> zielony: 3gb is minimum for a normal install. i would recommend 5-6gb to be on the safe side since you probably are gonna install alot of other things in the future.
[04:40] <_jason> we3za: ok, then the guide hastesaver is telling you about will let you install firefox1.5 from firefox's site.  But if I were you I would just wait 3 weeks for dapper drake to be released.  In dapper, the firefox is 1.5
[04:40] <MisterN> Jowi: he ran away.
[04:40] <Curtman> Is there a utility like 'top' that tells you what processes are using disk I/O?  Something is doing a lot of IO, and I can't figure out what.  It's not updatedb, that's about all I know of that ever does this. :(
[04:40] <daryl> RandolphCarter, do I always have to specify that wine is in that folder on my desktop?
[04:41] <Jowi> MisterN: crap. all that typing for nothing :P
[04:41] <RandolphCarter> daryl: I can't be sure without knowing exactly what you did when you were compiling it :/
[04:41] <MisterN> Jowi: :)
[04:41] <daryl> RandolphCarter, I can tell you that
[04:41] <MisterN> and i'm doing du -hs /* for nothing
[04:41] <RandolphCarter> daryl: you did do a 'make install' too?
[04:41] <hastesaver> cg doesn't ls sort by name by default?
[04:41] <we3za> thanks a lot jasonn
[04:41] <DBO> daryl, just symlink your wine binary to /usr/bin
[04:41] <daryl> RandolphCarter, yes i did
[04:42] <daryl> symlink?
[04:42] <arrick1> morning dbernar1
[04:42] <arrick1> morning DBO
[04:42] <RandolphCarter> hmm :/ yeah, if it's left it in the desktop, probably best to link it
[04:42] <DBO> daryl, man ln
[04:42] <daryl> DBO: what do you mean by symlink?
[04:42] <RandolphCarter> (or add the wine directory to your PATH)
[04:42] <DBO> daryl, make sure you use the ln -s command
[04:42] <arrick1> anyone know why a HD wont mount with ext3 partition on it?
[04:42] <arrick1> or be picked up with FDISK?
[04:43] <DBO> arrick1, is it in your fstab?
[04:43] <arrick1> DBO, nope
[04:43] <daryl> DBO your suggesting, that I keep this folder on my desktop, but let Linux know there is a link to it here?
[04:43] <DBO> arrick1, do you get an error when you try to mount it with the mount command
[04:43] <daryl> DBO forgive me, i'm ultra new : )
[04:43] <arrick1> yeah, cant open
[04:44] <DBO> daryl, well it would work, but erm, why dont you go ahead and tell me what all is in that folder on your desktop
[04:44] <DBO> arrick1, quote please =)
[04:44] <arrick1> ok hang on
[04:44] <arrick1> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:44] <arrick1> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:44] <arrick1> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:44] <arrick1> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:45] <arrick1> wrong one sorry
[04:45] <daryl> DB wine-0.9.6, is where I extracted the wine source code,  Then I went into  wine-0.9.6  and compiled it, then installed it.
[04:45] <wowoku> #ubuntu -ch
[04:45] <arrick1> mount: special device /dev/hdb1 does not exist
[04:45] <arrick1>
[04:45] <arrick1> DBO, ^^
[04:45] <daryl> DB Was I supposed to extract wine source to somewhere else?  (besides a folder on my desktop?)
[04:45] <DBO> arrick1, "ls /dev/hdb*"
[04:46] <daryl> DBO: I'm more than happy to remove it, and start over.
[04:46] <Jowi> arrick1: "fdisk -l" should list all of your disks
[04:46] <arrick1> DBO, helps if i use the right drive, its hdc ouch
[04:46] <DBO> arrick1, it sure does
[04:46] <marcin_ant> is there any gimp user?
[04:46] <wowoku> who can tell me how to chinese ubuntu
[04:46] <marcin_ant> I don't know how to switch to main gimp window with keyboard shortcut and this is very annoying thing - could someone tell me if is this possible?
[04:47] <arrick1> !zf
[04:47] <ubotu> arrick1: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:47] <_indymedia_> heloooooooooooooo ubuntu users@!
[04:47] <DBO> daryl, it should have moved all the files into ~/.wine and some place for binaries (not sure where wine goes these days)
[04:47] <arrick1> what is the command for Chinese DBO
[04:47] <DBO> !zh
[04:47] <ubotu> For support in Chinese, please try the channel #ubuntu-zh.
[04:48] <_indymedia_> whazup people
[04:48] <_indymedia_> can anyone help me
[04:48] <DBO> _indymedia_, sure, state your problem please
[04:48] <_indymedia_> im trying to isntall kubuntu
[04:48] <DBO> in one message or less =P
[04:48] <jpbotelho> /who #
[04:48] <daryl> DBO: thats where my wine folder is.  So the source files that I compiled, don't have to be in a specific spot when i compile them?
[04:48] <_indymedia_> on x86 intel p1 with 64mb ram
[04:49] <DBO> daryl, nope, you should be able to delete those, there should be a wine binary in /usr/bin/
[04:49] <_indymedia_> can anyone help with installation tips?
[04:49] <starman> hi2all
[04:49] <_indymedia_> I cant get the vga right
[04:49] <_indymedia_> cant find valid mode
[04:49] <_indymedia_> when scan
[04:49] <DBO> !enter
[04:49] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[04:50] <_indymedia_> is done
[04:50] <arrick1> !fixres
[04:50] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:50] <starman> is there any problem with the network in ubuntu dapper??
[04:50] <DBO> starman, well Im online...
[04:50] <cg> i use ubuntu510 and met sevral times it read the hard disk and dead.
[04:50] <starman> I mean with bandwidth
[04:50] <daryl> DBO: i'm in the /usr/bin foldr.  What does a wine library look like to make sure I'm doing this right?
[04:50] <starman> I use to be able to download much faster than now
[04:50] <Jowi> _indymedia_: are you talking about Xorg or grub boot options?
[04:50] <DBO> daryl, "ls /usr/bin/wine"
[04:51] <cg> does other people meet this dead situation?
[04:51] <DBO> starman, im not aware of any such issue
[04:51] <daryl> there isn't one there DBO
[04:51] <daryl> so i've thoroughly messed this up lol
[04:51] <ITSa341> Hey, I have a p4 with ht  do I want to use the 686 smp kernel or standard 686?
[04:51] <DBO> daryl, somewhere, yes you have
[04:51] <starman> ok it might be something related to the torrents I am trying to download
[04:51] <frying_fish> daryl: when you compiled did you do make and make install
[04:51] <frying_fish> or just make
[04:51] <daryl> frying_fish, yes i did
[04:52] <_indymedia_> shweet thanks ubotu
[04:52] <starman> ok, has any one got wobbly compiz plugin to work under 64bit?
[04:52] <daryl> I folowed an article in the forums
[04:52] <frying_fish> which, make  && make install or, make.
[04:52] <frying_fish> infact, isn't there .debs for the latest wine even for breezy on winehq?
[04:52] <_indymedia_> has anyone tried kubuntu
[04:52] <_indymedia_> ?
[04:52] <DBO> frying_fish, yes there is
[04:52] <ITSa341> _indymedia_  I like kubuntu also
[04:52] <DBO> _indymedia_, you will have a very hard time running that on a P1 with 64mb
[04:53] <frying_fish> so wouldn't that be much much simpler.
[04:53] <starman> kde works really bad with compiz-kde
[04:53] <flydream> have anybody updagrade the ubuntu from 5.10 to 6.06?
[04:53] <frying_fish> p1 64mb, running KDE or gnome would be a joke.
[04:53] <_indymedia_> KDE desktop
[04:53] <frying_fish> you might want to try fluxbox
[04:53] <_indymedia_> Its so cool that Shuttleworth decided to distribute ubuntu for free
[04:53] <_indymedia_> truly cool
[04:53] <ITSa341> _indymedia_  It was a rescource eater compared to ubuntu for me
[04:53] <_jason> flydream: lot's of people.  We have a special channel for 6.06, please join #ubuntu+1
[04:53] <starman> kde has many more things than gnome, in my humble opinion :D
[04:53] <_indymedia_> hmm
[04:53] <RandolphCarter> ahh, that's where I should go, thanks _jason :)
[04:53] <frying_fish> _indymedia_: I wouldn't try it on a low spec machine.
[04:53] <Jowi> try sawfish, fluxbox, xfce, ice-wm or some other lightweight wm
[04:53] <daryl> DBO and frying_fish: I extracted the source to a folder on my desktop called  wine-0.9.6.  then I  patch -p1 < wine-cvs-glx.diff, then I patch -p1 < wine-wow-fixes.patch, then I ./configure, then I 'make depend && make', then I sudo make install
[04:53] <_indymedia_> well maby gnome would be better on 64mb RAM
[04:54] <frying_fish> 0.9.6, isn't wine up to 0.9.12 now anyway.
[04:54] <Jowi> _indymedia_: gnome is equally heavy
[04:54] <_indymedia_> want to use it for better security as primary net server
[04:54] <frying_fish> _indymedia_: don't use gnome or KDE
[04:54] <Jowi> _indymedia_: try sawfish, fluxbox, xfce, ice-wm or some other lightweight wm
[04:54] <_indymedia_> firewall
[04:54] <takedown> _indymedia_: try openbox
[04:54] <starman> anyone using compiz?
[04:54] <frying_fish> use fluxbox, or at a push xfce
[04:54] <flydream> how can i get in the special channel for6.06
[04:54] <_indymedia_> whynot?
[04:54] <_indymedia_> hmm cool
[04:54] <frying_fish> flydream:  #ubuntu+1
[04:54] <simonpca> reboot ==> linux
[04:54] <frying_fish> _indymedia_: it will be really slow
[04:54] <_indymedia_> JUST HAVE TO STILL FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET MODE WORKING ON VGA lol! :-)
[04:55] <frying_fish> 64mb is not enough to run it.
[04:55] <arrick1> type /j #ubuntu+1 flydream '
[04:55] <Jowi> _indymedia_: i have a P1 166 with 60mb which runs ice-wm great
[04:55] <starman> _indymedia_, what vga mode?
[04:55] <ITSa341> _indymedia_  for a router/firewall check out smoothwall.org    I have been using smoothwall for router/firewalls for years. Very stable and easy to set up
[04:55] <harisund> People, I have a question. Would it work if I install 5.10 server, change my repositories to Dapper, and install ubuntu-desktop? Would it give me the most recent Dapper's Ubuntu desktop?
[04:55] <daryl> DBO: perhaps it would be easier to tell me where I went wrong, and just have me start over.
[04:55] <_indymedia_> how can i install it? i really dont know that much about linux
[04:55] <arrick1> SMOOTHWALL is great and awesome too
[04:55] <_indymedia_> am slooooooooowly trying to get out of windoze
[04:55] <starman> I have been trying to run vesa from the boot commands, unsuccessfully
[04:55] <Jowi> _indymedia_: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and select "vesa". see if that works
[04:55] <frying_fish> daryl: perhaps it would just be easier to get the later version of wine than 0.9.6
[04:55] <hastesaver> harisund, better to install 5.10 desktop first, right?
[04:56] <ITSa341> arrick1  I have a smoothwall that has not been rebooted for years
[04:56] <harisund> hastesaver: I don't want to have 5.10 desktop.
[04:56] <starman> I dont know, i think is the initrd image
[04:56] <arrick1> ITSa341, `so does my network
[04:56] <frying_fish> _indymedia_: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop would do xfce
[04:56] <_indymedia_> running laptop for browsing web on winXP and want to use old p1 for firewall running ubuntu
[04:56] <daryl> frying_fish: I could do that.  I was just following the forum instructions.  it said to use this particular version even though it was older.
[04:56] <frying_fish> if you just want it is a firewall try ipcop
[04:56] <frying_fish> its a better distro than ubuntu for that.
[04:56] <_indymedia_> but have to setup linux to be able to share interent
[04:56] <daryl> Frying_fish: I'm trying to install World of Warcraft.
[04:56] <hastesaver> harisund, but you want 6.06 desktop?
[04:56] <_indymedia_> *internet
[04:57] <frying_fish> _indymedia_: http://ipcop.org/
[04:57] <ITSa341> _indymedia_  for a router/firewall check out smoothwall.org    it is a standalone distro designed just for that use
[04:57] <_indymedia_> interesting
[04:57] <daryl> what is the command to uninstall this wine version, that I've inappropriate installed?
[04:57] <PDani> hi
[04:57] <harisund> hastesaver: Yes, I want 6.06 desktop. My logic was, if I install 5.10 server, I will only get bare minimum components. Then I can upgrade those components, and directly go for the 6.06 desktop. If I install 5.10 desktop, first I have to wait a while before that installs, and then wait even longer before that upgrades :(
[04:57] <harisund> hastesaver: slow machine .
[04:57] <frying_fish> harisund: just download the 6.06 iso's?
[04:57] <PDani> i upgraded to dapper. how can i generate new locales? (in breezy, i could do it with dpkg-reconfigure locales, but now it doesn't work)
[04:57] <_indymedia_> is it possible to gradually get into linux starting with automated tasks in gui
[04:58] <ITSa341> harisund  just install dapper from a cd
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> I dont see the logic of the 'older' stuff being better for slower machines. :P
[04:58] <_indymedia_> because learning all those commands is time consuming right now
[04:58] <daryl> frying_fish: what do I type to remove this messed up wine install?
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> _indymedia_,  it pays to read and read and read and learn the fundamentals.. just skim  some tutorials.. and reread them later.
[04:58] <starman> does anyone know the difference between debian and ubuntu?
[04:58] <frying_fish> _indymedia_: seriously, if you just want it as a router box then ipcop is much better than ubuntu, and is web interface managed.
[04:58] <harisund> frying_fish and ITSa341: No immediate access to CD burners, and I wanted to try it this weekend.
[04:58] <ITSa341> harisund   I understand
[04:58] <harisund> oh well thanks guys .. let me see what I can do anyway ..
[04:58] <_indymedia_> i want to be able to download stuff too though
[04:59] <frying_fish> harisund: then technically yes you could install breezy server, and then upgrade, there is a way to do it
[04:59] <daryl> RandolphCarter and DBO thank you both for your help.  Thanks to you for your suggestions to Frying fish.
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> _indymedia_,  what does downloading 'stuff' have to do with learning linux? :P
[04:59] <_indymedia_> like if i take my laptop out somewhere stuff can still download/upload from the other pc
[04:59] <blasph> I can't sync my palm (got an old Clie now) with Evolution (or J-Pilot for that matter).
[04:59] <PDani> any idea?
[04:59] <frying_fish> _indymedia_: it still has ssh on it.
[04:59] <_indymedia_> not just router =- router / dl/ul
[04:59] <ciro> I have a problem.Im not able to burn cds with k3b cuz it says me there is no cd into drive. who can help me?
[04:59] <frying_fish> or should have.
[04:59] <RandolphCarter> daryl: np's :)
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> _indymedia_,  you mean get in to the main pc remotely. thats doable with ssh. but if you are on a dynamic ip - it can be a bit of a bother.
[05:00] <daryl> RandolphCarter: is there a specific way to remove wine?  or do I just delete my directory?
[05:00] <frying_fish> unless you can use dyndns.org
[05:00] <frying_fish> or something like that.
[05:00] <Jowi> _indymedia_: dyndns.org is great
[05:00] <frying_fish> daryl: first do something like find / -name wine and see what comes back
[05:00] <frying_fish> if its just stuff in that one folder then yes.
[05:01] <RandolphCarter> daryl: depends on where it's installed, but in general yeah, just remove the directory for wine
[05:01] <HellDragon> hi anyone can help me ? my resolution is stuck on 1024x768 @70 hertz(i want 1024x768 but at 85hertz not 70)
[05:01] <HellDragon> in the resolution menu i cant change anything, stuck on that
[05:01] <linux6754> hi all
[05:01] <HellDragon> i tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:01] <HellDragon> not working
[05:01] <daryl> RandolphCarter: /usr/local/share/fonts/wine, /usr/local/share/wine, /usr/local/bin/wine, usr/local/lib/wine, /usr/local/include/wine
[05:02] <linux6754> I would install ubuntu on my acer aspire 5672WLmi .....somebody can help me??????????????
[05:02] <linux6754> pleaseeeeeeeeeee
[05:02] <_indymedia_> ubuntu is a debian variant 'based on debian' created byShuttleworth foundation  multi millionair south african Mark Shuttlworths company who developed verisign out of his garage, he was also the first African in space, His company now gives away UBUNTU LINUX away free. You can order a copy from the website
[05:02] <Jowi> !ask
[05:02] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[05:02] <daryl> RandolphCarter: is that part of the problem? everything is in sub folder of local.
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> linux6754,  you got an actual 'problem' ?
[05:02] <green_earz> starman: check out the video of mark shuttleworth talking about ubuntu and ubuntu relationship > http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2005/debconf5/mpeg/2005-07-14/02-Ubuntu_Talk-Mark_Shuttleworth.mpeg
[05:02] <gawen> does anyone know how I can load my pcmcia wifi card on the boot progress... Before networking configuration
[05:03] <HellDragon> my eyes are dying
[05:03] <HellDragon> omg 70hertz
[05:03] <RandolphCarter> daryl: nah, that's a good thing, things you compile should go into /usr/local or /opt (I'd stick wine in /opt/wine myself, easier to upgrade by just rm -rf /opt/win) :)
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> 70htz.. wow.. the humanity...
[05:03] <Jowi> gawen: you put the driver in /etc/modules
[05:03] <starman> mercy beaucoup green_earz
[05:03] <_jason> yes
[05:03] <zorglu1> Dr_Willis: autorepeat wont stop on ? and e but work ok on other keys. real weird :)
[05:03] <ompaul> !tell HellDragon about resolution
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> I rember the days of using a TV as a comuter monitor.
[05:03] <HellDragon> i already tryied that OmniColos
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> zorglu1,  thats odd..
[05:03] <HellDragon> ompaul, oops
[05:03] <enyc> HellDragon: hrrm I like running at 1216x912 at 99hz
[05:04] <ompaul> HellDragon, if you want read the stuff from the bot :-)
[05:04] <RandolphCarter> daryl: you can control where programs you install go by adding --prefix= to the configure script
[05:04] <_n30> when i boot kubuntu It starts up but the screen is blank!
[05:04] <_n30> like
[05:04] <daryl> RandolphCarter: i'm about to try to reinstall this again.  Any suggestions to make sure I dont' do the same thing?  I'm following a post called "World of Warcraft with Wine" in the forums.
[05:04] <gawen> driver are already in... but pcmcia load the card after the networking script
[05:04] <_n30> it installs but theres no image/vga when i try get into GUI
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> !fixres
[05:04] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:05] <RandolphCarter> daryl: that should be fine I think, something odd probably hapenned this time.  just do ./configure --prefix=/opt/wine (and don't forget to mkdir /opt/wine too)
[05:05] <HellDragon> yesterday i was at 85 !
[05:05] <Zarephath> Hey ompaul:
[05:05] <HellDragon> and today 70 ...
[05:05] <PDani> so
[05:05] <PDani> how can i generate the hu_HU locale?
[05:06] <Blissex> PDani: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[05:06] <tech_> can someone help with installing wine?
[05:06] <daryl> RandolphCarter: thanks, I saved all that info you wrote me.  I'm gonna go try it again... wish me luck.  oy..
[05:06] <PDani> Blissex: it doesn't answer anything in dapper...
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> tech_,  read the info from !wine yet?
[05:06] <ompaul> HellDragon, so did you do something? system - preferences - screen resoultion
[05:06] <tech_> !wine
[05:07] <Blissex> PDani: well, wait until Dapper is released.
[05:07] <RandolphCarter> daryl: np's, gl ^_^
[05:07] <starman> how old is ubuntu, like 3 years?
[05:07] <tech_> Dr_Willis: i have readed at the web page to wine but i dident finit out :P
[05:07] <HellDragon> you wiki page doesnt work
[05:07] <Zarephath> clear
[05:07] <Jae2> Hey I need a little help with setting up dual monitors
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> tech_,  may want to ask a more detailed question as well.
[05:08] <arrick1> tech_, whats up today?
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> Jae2,  what video card(s) ?
[05:08] <daryl> !wow
[05:08] <ubotu> rumour has it, wow is To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[05:08] <tech_> arrick1: need to install wine :P
[05:08] <arrick1> !easysources
[05:08] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick1
[05:08] <Jae2> ati 9600XT, 2 video outputs
[05:08] <arrick1> !easysource
[05:08] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:08] <blasph> how do I tell Evolution what date format to use?
[05:08] <PDani> Blissex: maybe a more constructive idea?
[05:09] <arrick1> tech_, got here and get repos for it and add it to /etc/apt/sources.lict
[05:09] <arrick1> tech_, got here and get repos for it and add it to /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:09] <arrick1> the second is correct
[05:09] <linux6754> HOW CAN I UPDATE THE VERSION OF THE KERNEL IN THE TEXT MODE WITHOUT HAVING ANY INTERNET CONNECTION AVAILABLE???? HELP ME!!!!!
[05:09] <speedie> ok, trying to setup remote XServer, ssh into the host machine with 'ssh -Y' and set the DISPLAY env
[05:09] <speedie> tofarley@ora:~$ xhost +
[05:09] <speedie> Xlib: connection to "<IP_ADDRESS>:0.0" refused by server
[05:09] <speedie> Xlib: No protocol specified
[05:09] <starman> do you guys think, windows gathers that many communities in the net?
[05:09] <speedie> any ideas?
[05:09] <starman> windows users are passive users?
[05:09] <arrick1> tech_, look at ubotus last post
[05:09] <HellDragon> im sad
[05:09] <linux6754>  thank
[05:09] <tech_> arrick1: gonna try sometginf brb
[05:10] <cliebow__> kernel-source for building hgsflinmodem?
[05:10] <gawen> does anyone know how I can load my pcmcia wifi card on the boot progress... Before networking configuration... The card work properly but pcmcia load it after the networking script...
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> linux6754,  you got any pc with internet connection?
[05:10] <speedie> starman: not all windows users are passive... I know some "power" windows users
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> speedie,  power 'windows user' is like a 'power' drinker. :)
[05:10] <starman> hehehe
[05:10] <speedie> heh, not true... there are many intricacies to windows too
[05:11] <YogSothoth> Hi
[05:11] <speedie> personally, I have a Mac, and a linux box
[05:11] <YogSothoth> Is there a way to tell scp not to overwrite files if destination file exists and is the same size?
[05:11] <arrick1> there are no "Power" windoze users, they just think they are
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> speedie,  if you have ssh set up right.. you dont need to set the display env.
[05:11] <arrick1> haha
[05:11] <starman> well I think windows its boring
[05:11] <HellDragon> :(
[05:11] <speedie> Dr_Willis: define "right"
[05:11] <speedie> :)
[05:11] <tech_> arrick1: i cant change anything in the source.list file :\
[05:11] <starman> speedie mac is cool
[05:11] <speedie> tech_:  sudo vi /etc/sources.list
[05:11] <arrick1> tech_, try typing in terminal sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> speedie,  the normal way. :P  last i had to export display was when using telnet. ssh -X i though t did it allready.
[05:11] <Zarephath> I have Cable access with dynamic IP assignment....I setup a mail server and pointed it back to my dynamic ip address...however when I tried to send email it bounced saying mail relay not permitted...is there a company where I can get static ips and run everything through the dns for the ips..just using my cable for the connection?
[05:11] <starman> however way too expensive
[05:11] <ompaul> linux6754, do not use block capitals, thank you, try a wired connection, visit packages.ubuntu.com for kernel materials of you do not have a connection, you will be installing using >>dpkg -i packagename<< click on system administration disks to add a windows disk with the file you want on it - make sure you have the dependencies - and you can always go wired
[05:12] <hackeron_> hey, quick question, how do I remap alt+mmb+drag to resize window to alt+rmb+drag? - I'm used to that combination from every other window manager I tried.
[05:12] <arrick1> speedie, you forgot that sources are in the apt folder?
[05:12] <speedie> doh, yeah
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> hackeron_,  heh - thats the first ive heard of that combo.
[05:12] <arrick1> haha
[05:12] <green_earz> Zarephath: http://www.no-ip.com/
[05:12] <ompaul> Zarephath, check out: dydns.com no idea how it works but I believe it should work for you, also read the howtos for postfix if you want to go there
[05:12] <hackeron_> Dr_Willis: very useful :)
[05:13] <speedie> Dr_Willis: I tried with -X just now, and it says that my DISPLAY isn't set
[05:13] <YogSothoth> Never mind, I'll use rsync :)
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> hackeron_,  i tend to have eerything full screened.
[05:13] <Jae2> Can anyone help me with setting up dual monitors?  I have one video card (9600xt) with two video outputs.  I've made some change to xorg.conf and currently my second monitor is just a clone of my main, id like an "extended desktop"
[05:13] <starman> speedie, you cant run xorg?
[05:13] <hackeron_> Dr_Willis: always annoyed me why Gnome changed it to middle mouse button, so awkward
[05:13] <starman> or xgl?
[05:13] <blasph> can date format for Evolution be set?
[05:13] <Jowi> Zarephath: there are hundreds of companies like that. 1. register a domain name (cost around 10 euros) 2. get DNS control service for that domain (cost 10 euros per year). 3. set the MX value to point to your domain name. 4. enjoy having a mail server.
[05:13] <speedie> startman, trying to run it remotely
[05:13] <hackeron_> Dr_Willis: even compiz with xgl uses right mouse button
[05:13] <ompaul> HellDragon, never once in two years here I have I seen someone say that the resolution factoid does not work
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> speedie,  may want to read a few of the SSH tutoprials/guides out - proberly some setting you got to set in the ssh server file or client.
[05:14] <starman> I see
[05:14] <arrick1> !ssh
[05:14] <ubotu> ssh is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[05:14] <Zarephath> green_earz,ompaul: thanks
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> speedie,  also the ssh agent program may need to be getting started. (i forget the details)
[05:14] <green_earz> np
[05:14] <Jowi> Zarephath: you can also go with the free option: dyn-dns.org or what green_earz said
[05:14] <tech_> arrick1: think im going to try the guide =) but thanx anyway =)
[05:14] <gawen> does anyone know how I can load my pcmcia wifi card on the boot progress... Before networking configuration... The card work properly but pcmcia load it after the networking script...
[05:14] <arrick1> speedie, are you using ubuntu to ssh into another ubuntu box?
[05:14] <arrick1> tech_, ok
[05:14] <speedie> arrack using Mac to ssh into an ubuntu box
[05:15] <Zarephath> jowi: I have a domain name, however ultimately I have to use the dynamic ip to point back to my machine...this is the issue
[05:15] <arrick1> speedie, im not familiar with mac, but most work similar
[05:15] <arrick1> what issue you having?
[05:15] <Zarephath> I use mac too
[05:15] <Jowi> Zarephath: ah. that sucks. maybe give a call to your ISP and ask what  a static IP cost.
[05:15] <speedie> Xlib: connection to "<IP_ADDRESS>:0.0" refused by server
[05:15] <speedie> Xlib: No protocol specified
[05:15] <baconbacon> my HD keeps shutting down after about 10 seconds w/ no activity, how can i stop it
[05:15] <starman> mac already does stuff like Xgl + compiz, doesnt it?
[05:15] <arrick1> Zarephath, use no-ip.com
[05:16] <Zarephath> jowi: yeah I did..they want 180 US per month...
[05:16] <Zarephath> arrick1: I will look at that...don't think that is going to solve my issue
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> speedie,  you sshing in as the same user?  or as root? or somthing like that?
[05:16] <arrick1> Zarephath, that would put more into that than your car haha
[05:16] <speedie> Dr_Willis: same username on both machine
[05:16] <speedie> not root
[05:16] <arrick1> Zarephath, what is your issue, I run 15 domains from my dynamic ip address
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> speedie,  ubuntu on both?
[05:16] <arrick1> never have downtime
[05:16] <speedie> Dr_Willis: Mac OS X on one, ubuntu on the other
[05:17] <arrick1> (unless im upgrading)
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> speedie,  try echo $DISPLAY
[05:17] <speedie> <IP_ADDRESS>:0.0
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> echo $DISPLAY ---> localhost:10.0
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> is what i got on my working  ssh -X setup.
[05:17] <Zarephath> arrick1: I use Zoneedit for DNS...I created a MX record for my email server which pointed back to my dynamic ip...my provider doesn't allow relay
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> you exported your display?
[05:17] <gawen> does anyone know how I can load my pcmcia wifi card on the boot progress... Before networking configuration... The card work properly but pcmcia load it after the networking script...
[05:18] <Nihil85> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13499
[05:18] <arrick1> ew
[05:18] <Zarephath> arrick1: Now what?
[05:18] <sathya> hi...can anyone tell me when dapper will be shipped?
[05:18] <rmulliga> Does anyone know how to write a .vmx file for Ubuntu for 2 CDROM drives?
[05:18] <speedie> echo $DISPLAY
[05:18] <speedie> localhost:10.0
[05:18] <speedie> tofarley@ora:~/sqldeveloper$ xhost +
[05:18] <speedie> X connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[05:18] <speedie> tofarley@ora:~/sqldeveloper$ xhost +
[05:18] <arrick1> thats a hardone to bypass, I cant think of the solution on this one
[05:18] <Zarephath> speedie: use pastebin for that
[05:18] <speedie> sorry
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> speedie,  you are trying to run a linux app and have it show up on the OS_X box? or visa versa?
[05:18] <speedie> Dr_Willis: Linux apps on the OS X box
[05:19] <ompaul> speedie, do not paste in this channel thank you, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting thanks
[05:19] <speedie> I heard the first time :)
[05:19] <arrick1> try routing through a high port like 8885 or something, sometimes the providers dont block them
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> speedie,  isent there some X file server tools you need to install?
[05:19] <speedie> Dr_Willis: installed and working
[05:19] <green_earz> Zarephath: with no-ip you can have them relay your mail to a different port
[05:19] <arrick1> yep
[05:19] <Zarephath> Ok...
[05:19] <BSA_> sorry closed the window by accident :(
[05:20] <AngryElf> how do i disable cd/dvd autoplay?
[05:20] <speedie> Zarephath: use dyndns.com
[05:20] <speedie> I use their free Dynamic DNS
[05:20] <iocaste> Zarephath: i use freedns.afraid.org
[05:21] <speedie> X connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[05:21] <BSA_> can someone please tell me why  clicking on system>administration>networking wouldnt work
[05:21] <Jae2> how can I chmod to allow all users access to a mounted read-only filesystem (windoz drive0
[05:21] <arrick1> BSA_, have you changed anything in it?
[05:21] <ompaul> BSA_, what do you mean does not work?
[05:21] <arrick1> Jae2
[05:21] <arrick1> !ntfs
[05:21] <ubotu> rumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:22] <rmulliga> Anyone using VMware with 2 cdrom drives?
[05:22] <BSA_> it says starting networking in the bar then nothing happenes
[05:22] <Jae2> thanks
[05:22] <BSA_> i think i deleted the hostname :S
[05:22] <arrick1> BSA_, give it time, sometimes takes a bit
[05:22] <arrick1> ew
[05:22] <BSA_> its been 30 mins since the first time i tried
[05:23] <ompaul> BSA_, okay first up if you have done something simple rebooting might fix it,
[05:23] <DPackrat> I tried using the Livecd and the login screen is corrupted (looks like a garbled image). Any ideas?
[05:23] <ompaul> BSA_, second up what kind of conneciton is it?
[05:23] <arrick1> BSA_, try typing sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[05:23] <Jowi> BSA: just type in what hostname you want in /etc/hostname
[05:23] <BSA_> ive tried but ill give it a go again
[05:23] <arrick1> to see if you did indeed delete the hostname
[05:23] <BSA_> i tried editing that file but its read only
[05:24] <arrick1> you gotta sudo to write to it
[05:24] <HellDragon> sudo -mom
[05:24] <Jowi> BSA: "sudo nano /etc/hostname"
[05:24] <gawen> does anyone know how I can load my pcmcia wifi card on the boot progress... Before networking configuration... The card work properly but pcmcia load it after the networking script...
[05:24] <arrick1> Jowi, ompaul glad yoiur here, Im sending him to the wrong folder (ouch)
[05:25] <Jowi> gawen: add the module name to /etc/modules
[05:25] <ompaul> DPackrat, at it starts the machine pauses (I forget which key it is F1-F6) and you can get to a prompt if you add to the "boot options" the following text from between the <>     >>>vga=771<<<
[05:25] <BSA_> it says ... sudo: unable to lookup  via gethostbyname()
[05:25] <DPackrat> Thanks ompaul, I'll try it out
[05:26] <DPackrat> Does it have something to do with my graphics card or monitor perhaps? (7800GT, Dell 20" WS)
[05:26] <j2daosh> anyone in here know how to stream music remotely thru nomachine? do i need a certain program or do i just have to change a setting?
[05:27] <ompaul> DPackrat, its the card and this manover can help, what kind of card is in it  - ati or something else?
[05:27] <j2daosh> im sure the people in my house right now are getting pretty pissed by my computer blaring music and shutting off and blaring music somemore while i rack my brain trying to get the music to come here instead of locally
[05:27] <marcie> I learn my programs (and operating systems) best by book. Is there the equivalent available on Ubuntu, for free
[05:27] <marcie> one i could print out maybe
[05:27] <CatalinuX> hi all
[05:27] <darmou> I've got a problem I've half upgraded to dapper and now some of my modules won't load up on start up, I have no X or networking
[05:27] <speedybits> Is there a way for me to rip whatever my soundcard is playing to MP3/Ogg?
[05:28] <arrick1> marcie, try Rutes exposition and turorial
[05:28] <Jowi> !tell darmou about dapper
[05:28] <j2daosh> anyone in here know how to stream music remotely thru nomachine? do i need a certain program or do i just have to change a setting?
[05:28] <darmou> is there some debs I could download and install to bring my system back online?
[05:28] <marcie> where is that?
[05:28] <BSA_> please this internet thing is boggling me ive searched the forums but no joy
[05:28] <darmou> ok thanks Jowi
[05:28] <marcie> if that is the basic tutorial...i didn't find it all that helpful
[05:28] <arrick1> type it in google, or order through barnes & noble.com
[05:28] <marcie> oh, ok thank you
[05:29] <mustard5> darmou, how can you half upgrade to dapper?
[05:29] <marcie> any other suggestions from people?
[05:30] <CatalinuX> i have a problem with ubuntu 6.06 .. after the phase of detecting hardware components, the installer just stops and the hardware continues to work a period of time, than it stops. I can succesfully install Ubuntu 5.10 without any problems. That`s what I use now. But I want to install Ubuntu 6.06 and I can`t because the installation is stopping unexpectedly. Can U please help me ?
[05:30] <BSA_> I use wireless its working now
[05:30] <DPackrat> Ompaul - it's actually an Nvidia
[05:30] <|Sivik|> BSA: what card?
[05:30] <BSA_> the networting program was working before
[05:30] <BSA_> actiontec
[05:30] <|Sivik|> ok
[05:30] <arrick1> marcie, I have only been using linux since January, and believe me Rutes helped
[05:30] <ompaul> CatalinuX, please ask in the channel #ubuntu+1 its where dapper is actually dealth with
[05:31] <arrick1> its what everyon in here told me to get at the time
[05:31] <BSA_> i think it prism based
[05:31] <ompaul> !tell DPackrat about nvidia
[05:31] <ompaul> DPackrat, read the message from the bot :-)
[05:31] <arrick1> if you need more info, you can try the wiki and just read and browse
[05:31] <CatalinuX> 10x ompaul
[05:31] <DPackrat> heh, thanks
[05:32] <DPackrat> Does that apply to the Livecd as well?
[05:32] <ompaul> DPackrat, it applies to nvidia
[05:32] <green_earz> BSA_: to check what the module name is for the network card > http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[05:32] <daryl> RandolphCarter: HI again.  I just posted under daryl256 on ubunto paste bin.  would you mind taking a look, to tell me whey the command I typed dind't work?
[05:32] <DPackrat> thanks, I'll give it a try
[05:32] <ompaul> DPackrat, and the 771 yes it can do
[05:32] <RandolphCarter> daryl: sure
[05:33] <indy> Is this where i can ask technical questions about my Ubuntu instillation?
[05:33] <RandolphCarter> daryl: ahh, 'sudo aptitude install fakeroot' :)
[05:33] <kbrooks> indy: ask.
[05:33] <daryl> so type the command w/a sudo at the front?
[05:33] <ompaul> marcie, have a look at help.ubuntu.com and click on the "lifesaver" icon on your top panel
[05:33] <RandolphCarter> daryl: nope, install fakeroot using that line
[05:33] <Curtman> Do I need to do anything to get inotify support in Ubuntu's kernel?  According to /boot/config-2.6.15-21-k7, I have 'CONFIG_INOTIFY=y', but dmesg says nothing about inotify at all.  :(
[05:33] <daryl> oh! lol, thanks RandolphCarter!
[05:33] <indy> ok, i have what i see as two problems. 1)  Ubuntu support for wmv files
[05:34] <kbrooks> indy: 1. win32codecs
[05:34] <indy> and 2) a firefox pluging support for wmv files
[05:34] <RandolphCarter> np's :)
[05:34] <kbrooks> indy: 2. mplayer, install 1.
[05:34] <arrick1> !restricted
[05:34] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:34] <arrick1> indy, ^^
[05:34] <daryl> RandolphCarter: I'm trying to make sure I don't bug you guys much.  Could you tell me how you understood that I needed to install that?
[05:34] <kbrooks> arrick1: i told him :-)
[05:34] <arrick1> ok
[05:35] <harisund> Hello, somebody has changed the ubuntu RestrictedFormats page instructions for Flashplayer. It used to be mozilla-flashplayer and now it is flashplugin-nonfree even for Breezy. Is that correct?
[05:35] <indy> can i install  win32codecs from the comand line ? if so how,
[05:35] <arrick1> kbrooks, I was giving a link to it
[05:35] <ompaul> !restrictedformats
[05:35] <ubotu> methinks restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:35] <arrick1> indy follow that link, it will tell you all
[05:35] <RandolphCarter> daryl: well, the last line is usually the one where the problem was
[05:35] <ompaul> indy, the way to do it in ubuntu is documented there
[05:35] <kbrooks> ok
[05:35] <arrick1> thanks ompaul again
[05:35] <Jae2> I have the gstreamer0.8-misc plugins but totem will not play mp3 files
[05:35] <harisund> Somebody should really make sure the RestrictedFormats page for Breezy atleast doesn't change. I seem to be seeing a change everyday now.
[05:35] <marcie> i found a review of Rute's book...i already have a good book on running Unix...which i think would be appropriate for basic information
[05:35] <RandolphCarter> daryl: and it says 'fakeroot: command not found', ergo, we need to install fakeroot :)
[05:36] <daryl> RandolphCarter, that makes a lot of sense
[05:36] <Curtman> indy: Save yourself the trouble and just get them from mplayerhq.hu, and untar them in /usr/lib/win32.
[05:36] <arrick1> harisund, me to me to
[05:36] <ompaul> harisund, hmmm thanks for that
[05:36] <marcie> what i want to learn more about is how to run the Unbutu system and it's features, such as X-windows, with how they have been set up for ubuntu
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> indy,  i agree with Curtman
[05:36] <daryl> RandolphCarter: i made the bold leap into Linux 2 days ago...  i'm so very new
[05:36] <marcie> (i'm looking for a book or text file on how to use ubuntu
[05:36] <harisund> ompaul, so in breezy for FlashPlayer should I install flashplugin-nonfree or should I install mozilla-flashplayer ?
[05:36] <RandolphCarter> daryl: ahh, well, you don't seem to be doing too badly anyway ^_^
[05:37] <daryl> RandolphCarter: i'm pretty technically minded, but I'm just new to this whole thing.  Any suggested reading for me?  that would explain things like that.
[05:37] <arrick1> marcie, http://www.ubuntu.net browse it
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> marcie,  the ubuntu wiki/forums - the definitive guide.. and of course all the debian docs out apply as well.
[05:37] <RandolphCarter> daryl: always best to read the manpages, they're a bit dry but they grow on you in the end, try running 'man man' to start with
[05:37] <indy> ok, thanks. I'll see how i go. I'm fairly new to linux, i.e i'm still finding my feet. Thanks.
[05:37] <daryl> RandolphCarter: thanks, i'll get to it : )
[05:37] <RandolphCarter> daryl: you can generally do 'man *commandname*' if you're confused about something
[05:37] <kbrooks> i'm writing a virtual machine frontend. i have 2 buttons, which start annd stop qemu respectively
[05:38] <arrick1> indy, thats how we all start out
[05:38] <marcie> i've browset the ubuntu wiki...not very helpful for how i learn...i will look at the debian one
[05:38] <ompaul> harisund, I know little of flash, in your shoes I would do the mozilla-flashplayer
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> 'for how i learn' ? :P
[05:38] <harisund> ompaul: exactly my thoughts. Just got a bit worried that someone changed the RestrictedFormats page.
[05:38] <mustard5> marcie, documentation is not a strong poing with linux. :)
[05:38] <marcie> as an example i only learned html when i eventually went out and bought a SAMS book on it...
[05:38] <daryl> Now you have me wondering what 'sudo aptitude install fakeroot' actually does.  I understand sudo is for super user.  and install and fakeroot are obvious.  But what is aptitude?
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> mustard5,  no.. 'total beginner documention' is not a strong point. :P
[05:38] <ompaul> harisund, there have been "improvements" to the process advised by a senior developer
[05:38] <RandolphCarter> anybody using X800+fglrx, could you paste your xorg.conf and menu.lst somewhere? :)
[05:38] <arrick1> marcie if you want the learning to stick, just play with it and write a book, then you can make some money as well
[05:39] <harisund> ompaul: Ah I see..
[05:39] <ompaul> harisund, and I trust the guy who editied it
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> It pays to read read and read... then set the book away.. and come back to it later..
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> learn the fundamentals.. and the rest is easy.
[05:39] <harisund> ompaul: Yes, and I always trust wikis. :)
[05:39] <mustard5> Dr_Willis, I'll agree with that :)
[05:39] <BSA_> i did the whole  http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ thing
[05:39] <marcie> i know that is the standard approach...but i still can't install non ubuntu software...and it seems to be unbuntu related...it's frustrating me
[05:39] <BSA_> i cant make sence of it sorry
[05:39] <ompaul> harisund, well its g/freak
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> marcie,  what non-ubuntu software?
[05:39] <kbrooks> i'm writing a virtual machine frontend. i have 2 buttons, which start annd stop qemu respectively. i have a "enter cli" box. i'd like to replace the  box with something. tabs?
[05:39] <arrick1> marcie, you need to check out the repos
[05:39] <marcie> i don't mean to complain about ubuntu...i just want to figure out how to learn it specidically
[05:39] <serp> howd o I close X?
[05:40] <mustard5> marcie, could you give an example of a problem you are having?
[05:40] <arrick1> that and apt-get
[05:40] <marcie> win4lin
[05:40] <marcie> i can't seem to install many programs
[05:40] <ompaul> serp, system logout and then choose shutdown - logout - reboot or whatever with more options on dapper
[05:40] <kbrooks> marcels: you are allowed to complain abut ubuntu :-)
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> 'specificially' theres not a whole lot different  other then little trivial bits - from most disrtos. :P   the fundamentlas are the same for most all disrtos.. its just the added in extra 'tools' that may get ya.
[05:40] <serp> ompaul: but I wanna close X, not turn off the computer
[05:40] <Curtman> Do I need to do anything to get inotify support in Ubuntu's kernel?  According to /boot/config-2.6.15-21-k7, I have 'CONFIG_INOTIFY=y', but dmesg says nothing about inotify at all.  :(
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> win4lin - can be a pain. under any disrto.
[05:41] <marcie> part of it is installing generally, unless it is on the ubuntu list of software i can't get it installed.
[05:41] <arrick1> serp, logout, not shutdown
[05:41] <marcie> an easy example is i want a cookie manager that will work.
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> qemu and  vmware are easier.
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> cookie recipe manager?
[05:41] <marcie> downloaded programs that are related but they don't work for what i want
[05:41] <BSA_> i'm gonna try a reboot
[05:41] <BSA_> brb
[05:41] <ompaul> serp, you mean stop X :-) different thing, logout then >>sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop<< from a console
[05:42] <linux6754> where can I download the kernel with deb extension????????
[05:42] <wizzlefish> when I copied a whole bunch of files from a data CD, made it all read-only. Is there a way to set it so it makes the permissions 777 or 775 or 755?
[05:42] <ompaul> linux6754, you have been told packages.ubuntu.com
[05:42] <wizzlefish> without changing each file manually?
[05:42] <serp> ok thx ompaul
[05:42] <marcie> other ideas: can i install the newer firefox addition without killing the one that is specific to ubuntu...becaue i can't use many of the extensions with the older ubuntu firefox
[05:42] <arrick1> wizzlefish, all you gotta do is chmod it
[05:42] <squiddle> wizzlefish  you can use chmod -R  ; -R means recursive
[05:43] <arrick1> mornign squiddle
[05:43] <ompaul> !tell marcie about ff1.5
[05:43] <wizzlefish> thanks squiddle, I forgot abotu -R
[05:43] <ompaul> marcie, its a mess but that is how it is done
[05:43] <linux6754> I can' t found it..
[05:43] <squiddle> arrick1  good evening, its 1743 here ;)
[05:43] <marcie> i'm used to running firefox 2, and i usually run the beta versions as a tester...can't do that now
[05:43] <linux6754> where is it exactly???
[05:43] <ericz> !tell me about ff1.5
[05:43] <pigor> hello. when i am playing a sound file with "play <file>" there is a click at the end. how can i fix this?
[05:43] <arrick1> 1130 here squiddle
[05:43] <marcie> same for thunderbird
[05:43] <Curtman> People actually use Ubuntu without dist-upgrading to dapper?  Wow.
[05:43] <linux6754> can you link me the exact page please?????
[05:43] <ompaul> linux6754, what version of Ubuntu are you using
[05:44] <linux6754> Breezy 5.10
[05:44] <arrick1> pigor, playin a soudn with what?
[05:44] <marcie> i couldn't install win4lin even when i had the program is another example...nor simpler programs
[05:44] <arrick1> you lips, the drums, ?
[05:44] <pigor> arrickl: with the command "play"
[05:44] <arrick1> in what program pigor ?
[05:45] <marcie> the only reason i want win4lin is for my mp3 player whose warranty is only good if it is run on a windows or mac system...i figure a emulartion would do as good a job
[05:45] <squiddle> arrick1  the programm is named play
[05:45] <arrick1> oh ok
[05:45] <marcie> also my sound card doesn't work...although that is on the lower part of my concerns
[05:45] <simonp_> i need help to enable DRI in X .... cant have 3d acceleration
[05:46] <squiddle> marcie  what weird kind of warranty do you have there?
[05:46] <pigor> squiddle: do you know why play "clicks" ?
[05:46] <squiddle> pigor  no, sorry
[05:46] <marcie> actually it's standard. Ipod, Sony just about everyone is running the same deal...i didn't know till i brought it home and when i checked...well it is a standard problem
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> That would have to rate as one of the oddest warrenties/.needs for win4Linux that i can think of. :P
[05:47] <ompaul> linux6754,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/ search for kernels for that - it will show all the ones that are available
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> theres hundereds of people using ipods under linux.
[05:47] <arrick1> yep
[05:47] <marcie> that is all i want it for. I found a copy through Torrent but i can't install it!
[05:47] <arrick1> and the warantees still stand even with linux
[05:47] <marcie> well, their warranty is worth shit, unless they can make it look like it ran under windows later
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> its amazing the backflips people try to do for these companies.
[05:48] <arrick1> marcie, there is a clause that specifies a legal os being used, and linux is one
[05:48] <marcie> also i would loose some features...but i'm not concerned about that
[05:48] <arrick1> oh ok
[05:48] <blue_ant> hi
[05:48] <arrick1> hi
[05:48] <linux6754> thanks I must update the kernel from the version 2.6.12 to the version <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:48] <arrick1> !hi
[05:48] <ubotu> arrick1: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:48] <simonp_> anyone can enable 3d accel on ATI + nforce motherboard?
[05:48] <ompaul> marcie, please leave the bad language at the door, we want a "g rated" channel :-) thanks
[05:48] <marcie> hmm...not in my documentation and in the stores where they are selling extended warrenties for Ipods same problem. I'm in Canada if it makes any difference
[05:48] <arrick1> !ati
[05:48] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[05:48] <linux6754> what file can i download with deb extension????
[05:48] <Curtman> marcie: Win4Lin isn't going to work as well as you think it will.. Abandon that plan and use a Linux program with your MP3 player if you know what is good for you.
[05:49] <ericz> this is probably a dumb question, but is there a way to change the sound esd makes when it starts up?
[05:49] <ompaul> linux6754, http click on the link
[05:49] <deadcake> WHO WANTS TO PLAY WITH ME WITH BZFLAG?
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> and isent Win4Lin  a comercial app?  so warezing it - is not a good idea anyway.
[05:49] <arrick1> deadcake, thats a question for offtopic
[05:49] <linux6754> I click on the link...but what files on the pages can i download??? thank you
[05:50] <ompaul> deadcake, join the server and wait that is so offtopic and don't ask in caps lock thanks
[05:50] <arrick1> linux6754, follow the instructions there
[05:50] <marcie> Curtman...all i need for it to do is not harm the base files (a few megs) so i can make it look like windows later...
[05:50] <arrick1> !caps
[05:50] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[05:50] <marcie> the next problem though...i can't install programs (as i said)...so how it i install a linux one?
[05:50] <blue_ant> I would like to install Ubuntu-Server on some identical Dell Poweredge of a cluster... I'm just asking myself (before migrating from Debian) if the stock ubuntu-server kernel has support for mre than 4 GB of RAM... anyone knows? I didn't find the information anywhere...
[05:51] <salty> Hi all, im rather new to Ubuntu (but loving it alot more than danmed windows), and i have a technical problem that i can find the soluntion to on any forums - anyone able to help?
[05:51] <Curtman> marcie: 'tar cvjf ~/mymp3backup.tar.bz2 /path/to/mp3/player'  Done.
[05:51] <ompaul> marcie, using System Administration Synaptic Package Management
[05:51] <jordin> buenas amigos
[05:51] <arrick1> blue_ant, good luck
[05:51] <arrick1> morning Blue-Omega
[05:51] <ompaul> !ask
[05:51] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[05:51] <squiddle> marcie i don't get it, what do you wann do? just putting music on the player is just copying to it
[05:51] <blue_ant> arrick1, sounds scaring... ;)
[05:51] <arrick1> yeah
[05:51] <marcie> i've used them, but for specific pacakages that aren't ubuntu "okayed" it doesn't help
[05:51] <ericz> is there a way to change the beep sound esd makes when you start it?
[05:51] <iocaste> salty: fire away
[05:52] <ompaul> !es
[05:52] <Blue-Omega> arrick1, morning
[05:52] <arrick1> but dont take my word for it, I only run a 7000 pc ubuntu network
[05:52] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:52] <wizzlefish> using "chmod -R 777" only made the files under the folders writable, but not the folders themselves
[05:52] <simonp_> arrick1, I installed ATI binary driver but glxglears still use software renderer
[05:52] <marcie> I'll try to simply...one minute
[05:52] <arrick1> ok ask that to everyone now
[05:52] <wizzlefish> how would I make the folders rewritable
[05:52] <wizzlefish> ?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> Im wondering what apple 'tech' guy would look at the format of the ipod hard drive to claim " You Broke it!, No warrenty for you!"
[05:52] <arrick1> simonp_, I only pointed to the link, I dont use it myself
[05:52] <ompaul> marcie, put it all on one line - makes it easy to understand what you are trying to do, don't break it up into little bits (bytes ;))
[05:53] <cg> how to set my word color of the IRC
[05:53] <arrick1> none Dr_Willis
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> considering apples less then steller reputation with their mp3 players and 'problems' :P  (when in doubt deny the batteries have a problem!)
[05:53] <salty> I'm running a pentium 3 with no USB boot support, with no Internal HD (as it died and im over seas) and ubuntu from liveCD - i've got a 250gig external HD that mounts no problem, but im hoping theres a way to set Ubuntu to default save all files and Programs to the external, rather than into my RAM - any ideas?
[05:53] <ompaul> wizzlefish, where are these "folders"
[05:53] <simonp_> arrick1, I've googled for a few hours, but still unable to find a solution
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> salty,  theres several live cd's that can do that - im in a similer pickle myself.  not sure of the state of the Ubuntu Live cd however.
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> salty,  on others theres boot time options to set a external /home or other config dirs.
[05:54] <salty> can you recommed any good LiveCD's for a newbie?
[05:54] <ompaul> salty, ubuntu
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> salty,  slax is very nice in many ways.. Ubuntu's is 'ok'
[05:54] <salty> LOL
[05:54] <hanasaki> ?   <= firefox is showing characters like this.. what are they?
[05:54] <arrick1> cg settings preferences and look for color
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> Knoppix is the defacto-standard in most of the live-cd features.
[05:55] <marcie> Goal: to move programs to my MP3 player without erasing the aprx 4mb program on the mp3 player, so that if i run into warranty problems i can just clear everything by reformating (this can be done as long as the file on my mp3 player isn't damaged, i don't know if it will be recognized by Linux. Next goal: I have had no luck installing programs not listed on the synaptic package manager, which limits what programs
[05:55] <marcie> i can use considerably.
[05:55] <CatalinuX>  ubuntu+1
[05:55] <oskar_> allo
[05:55] <arrick1> hanasaki, someone wrote tabs and spaces into their html code instead of <&nobsp>
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> Ie  never heard of people having to reformat their ipods under linux.
[05:55] <marcie> clearer?
[05:55] <salty> is there any commands i can enter in at a terminal level to set the external HD as default?
[05:55] <hanasaki> arrick1:  wow
[05:55] <ompaul> marcie, now if I had a player I would know how to do it :)P
[05:55] <blue_ant> I need a distro with a modern 2.6 kernel to support the Perc4 controllers, and hyperthreading well... and sarge has megaraid working only in 2.4 kernel but of course no support for more than 4 GB and bad HT... at least Ubuntu has megaraid working in 2.6 with good HT support... I hoped also more than 4 GB of ram...
[05:55] <marcie> it's unnessary excpet for warryanty issues
[05:55] <Curtman> marcie: What kind of MP3 player do you have for starters?
[05:56] <hanasaki>  	???????????????  so these are all tab/space?
[05:56] <arrick1> yep
[05:56] <arrick1> or incorrectly formatted <> lines
[05:56] <hanasaki> http://www.bloglines.com/register   <= arrick1  can you tell me if you get them on this page?
[05:56] <jadaz87> hello does anyone whether fglrx-control works with all ati radeon cards?
[05:56] <hanasaki> jadaz87:  i gave up on ati for linux.. nv "just works"
[05:57] <wizzlefish> ompaul - the CD that I copied data from had a whole bunch of folders in it, and it was all read-only
[05:57] <andres_> hi ppl
[05:57] <arrick1> hanasaki, I use firefox and nope I dont get them, its a IE thing that I have learned about while learning html
[05:57] <andres_> respect
[05:57] <wizzlefish> then I did "chmod -R 777"
[05:57] <arrick1> !enter
[05:57] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[05:57] <linux6754> wheRE I can found the version 2.6.16 o later in deb format?????????
[05:57] <hanasaki> arrick1:  i have firefox also.. and get those..   any thoughts on that?
[05:57] <serp> why isn't the latest firefox in apt-get ?
[05:58] <arrick1> that I cant answer, I dont know why your getting it like that, is that your page?
[05:58] <andres_> i have a webcam problem: my system freeze when I try to set i up?
[05:58] <marcie> Sony Nw-E403, as i said...there seemed to be similar problems with IPOD and better warranty for my player. It uses it's own program to format songs generally which might not be available on Linux. This gives me a good display of what is on the player, another feature i like (one you can not get except with the more expensive IPods)
[05:58] <andres_> any idea
[05:58] <hanasaki> nope.. its a search engine andres_
[05:58] <hanasaki> part of ask.com
[05:58] <bryanl> can you install ubuntu from the live cd?
[05:59] <marcie> It's generally a player i'm happy with and the sole reason i would want to use a windows emulator
[05:59] <arrick1> I cant answer that one unless your version might not have all the plugins it needs for the page
[05:59] <arrick1> hanasaki, ^^
[05:59] <salty> ?Does anyone know the easiest way of setting an External HD as primary storage for doc's and programs, whilslt still running from LiveCD?
[06:00] <ompaul> wizzlefish, chmod  -R 777 dirname/* the dir name will not change as it is controlled by the group
[06:00] <hanasaki> ah.. not sure i ssee any plugsin .. but ok..
[06:00] <tjb891> if i install a program with wine how easy is it to remove it?
[06:00] <hanasaki> can you tell me.. on the page   http://www.bloglines.com/?Lang=         what lang is under english and what lang is under deutsch?
[06:00] <arrick1> thats all I can think of unless your firefox is borked, try some other pages yet?
[06:00] <wizzlefish> ompaul - OK, I got it working
[06:01] <cg> test
[06:01] <ompaul> wizzlefish, if you sudoed all users on the box can walk around those files
[06:01] <mabus> fail
[06:01] <ompaul> !test
[06:01] <ubotu> Failed.
[06:01] <linux6754> who can help me with a kernel problem installation????????????
[06:01] <marcie> example: IPODS require a extra 80$ for warranty that will cover the battery, a common problem (and they will only do it for windows and macs). Mine was covered for a year on it's own and another 2 years of coverage was only $30
[06:01] <arrick1> hanasaki, the top one is english
[06:01] <marcie> These are Canadian figures
[06:01] <hanasaki> under english.. the 2nd line
[06:01] <arrick1> hanasaki, dutch is the forth one down
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> marcie,  check out qemu for your emu needs
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[06:01] <hanasaki> and under deutsh
[06:01] <arrick1> nope not viewable
[06:01] <linux6754> who can help me with a kernel problem installation????????????
[06:01] <ompaul> linux6754, I have given you the answer to your question, you seem to be missing the info do you want me to message it to you
[06:02] <marcie> gemu?
[06:02] <hanasaki> the 5th line
[06:02] <cg> test
[06:02] <arrick1> they are blank lines
[06:02] <hanasaki> thanks.. onmy ine they have bullets
[06:02] <ompaul> !patience
[06:02] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[06:02] <arrick1> hanasaki, they are blank lines probably put there for later translations
[06:02] <hanasaki> so you have english then french..
[06:02] <warreng> so i have a keyboard that has special buttons like a back and forward button... can i map the back button to "ctrl+pagedown" and forward to "ctrl+pageup"
[06:02] <arrick1> I do that on some of my sites too
[06:02] <marcie> could i install it without synaptic manager (my next problem...why i'm looking for a book specific to ubuntu not linux)
[06:02] <linux6754> I m sorry but I m new in linux
[06:02] <arrick1> yep
[06:02] <hanasaki> thanks
[06:02] <arrick1> np
[06:03] <ompaul> linux6754, so why even go near the kernel there is so much more to do than that
[06:03] <linux6754> and I can' t found the file in the web page
[06:03] <eod_punk> hello all
[06:03] <zeeeeee> hi all, i installed 5.10 in vmware. i can't change the resolution; i want to lower it, but when i do (using the Preferences > Screen Resolution) the screen gets completely garbled (and reverts back after the timeout). according to http://tinyurl.com/zw3ba i need to lower the color depth (24 to 16) but why? isn't it working fine at 24-bit right now?
[06:04] <eod_punk> I just wanted to stop in and say thanks to everyone that helped me, I finaly got my wifi working on my laptop
[06:04] <ompaul> linux6754, well ctrl+f usually searches
[06:04] <ompaul> !resolution
[06:04] <ubotu> well, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:04] <marcie> I will look there. I have a completely different problem. and i appreciate all the help. I am used to managing my cookies and keeping them down to about 30 i need, erasing the rest. I only found one program that worked on cookies and it did nothing when i started it (from the synapic interface).
[06:04] <ompaul> zeeeeee, ^^^^
[06:05] <zeeeeee> ompaul: that's not my problem
[06:07] <marcie> the cookie management is for privacy...i found i was erasing 90 every few days.  Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[06:13] <LinuxJones> eod_punk: yeah
[06:14] <eod_punk> you all rock then
[06:14] <arrick1> DSteele, who pays you?
[06:14] <zeeeeee> how do i find out what my current X session's color depth is?
[06:14] <DSteele> arrick1, microsoft :)
[06:14] <arrick1> haha
[06:14] <arrick1> thats funny
[06:14] <LinuxJones> eod_punk: it's nice to help people who in turn will help someone else :)
[06:14] <eod_punk> true
[06:14] <ompaul> it is not how to use Ubuntu but its interesting, it does some stuff different - as it is entitled to - note su in the place of sudo info that is rpm over .deb but not bad all the same
[06:14] <DSteele> im  paid to misinform
[06:15] <arrick1> DSteele, then be quiet please?
[06:15] <arrick1> haha
[06:15] <ompaul> !patience
[06:15] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[06:15] <mabus> eod_punk: Most of us are people like me... intermediate people who have many questions of their own, but sit in here even when they don't... most of the same questions get asked again and again so I will answer one if I see it. And then you got a handful of gurus, and a ton of newbies, with a high turnover rate.
[06:15] <eod_punk> I know I extremely appreciate the help i've received getting ubuntu up and running on my laptop
[06:15] <ompaul> eod_punk, ^^^^
[06:15] <ompaul> mabus, are we in the same channel? :-)
[06:15] <Tedd> Grar to Gentoo.
[06:16] <eod_punk> I was so excited to see the wireless signal bar go to full stregnth
[06:16] <mabus> ompaul: I don't get it... but for the record I included you as a guru. :P
[06:16] <DSteele> are there any wireless G usb adapters that are supported by ubuntu?
[06:16] <ompaul> eod_punk, the fan club meets in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic, we (try) to keep this one stuck tightly to support :-) hang about and have fun
[06:17] <arrick1> yes there are DSteele `
[06:17] <eod_punk> ok thanks
[06:17] <Tedd> Grehhhhhh. I gotta shower.
[06:17] <robbee> ok
[06:17] <ompaul> mabus, hmmm see what you got gnomefreak doing .... ohh now
[06:17] <gnomefreak> ;)
[06:17] <robbee> I just installed "badger"
[06:17] <steve343> ok ive tried restarting and a lot of otherthings
[06:17] <arrick1> belkin model no F5D7010 works out of the box
[06:18] <arrick1> robbee, you mean breezy, as its better known here?
[06:18] <robbee> ype
[06:18] <robbee> yep
[06:18] <arrick1> ok
[06:18] <steve343> on restarting i get the error msg "Could not look up internet address for .
[06:18] <mabus> DSteele: Mine is a DWL-G520, works pretty good.
[06:18] <arrick1> DSteele, did you see my last>
[06:18] <robbee> anyone ever use any exterior grade Access points?
[06:18] <DSteele> Yes arrick1 thanks
[06:18] <arrick1> yep
[06:19] <arrick1> have many in my system
[06:19] <robbee> really? what brand?
[06:19] <DSteele> hmm I was looking at a belkin I wonder if its the same
[06:19] <steve343> "this will prevent GNOME from operating correctly, It may be possible to correct the problem by adding to the file /etc/hosts
[06:19] <arrick1> various, hang on will get the list
[06:19] <robbee> thx
[06:19] <marcie> can i get the name for off topic chats for ubuntu?
[06:19] <steve343> anyone know whats wrong please?
[06:19] <gnomefreak> marcie: #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:20] <mabus> DSteele: If you're going to do a wider range of stuff, like packet sniffing/injection, get one with a prism2 chipset.
[06:20] <eugman> +p Hey, Is it possible to make a boot disk for ubuntu? Say if grub get's overwritten and I will be to busy to redo it for a while.
[06:20] <_jason> steve343: can you paste the first line of /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname please?
[06:20] <LinuxJones> steve343: do you have a localhost entry in your /etc/hosts file ?
[06:21] <arrick1> robbee, we use a few of these http://www.smartbridges.com/products/appo.asp and my techs want to switch all of them to these
[06:21] <robbee> Thanks arrick
[06:21] <steve343> one sec i cant paste
[06:21] <mabus> eugman: the install cd? :P If grub gets overwritten, take the install cd and go to expert install, and just install grub.
[06:21] <steve343> on a diferent machine
[06:21] <robbee> someone in my company prices out linksys @ $384 on newegg
[06:21] <steve343> <IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost
[06:22] <steve343> is the first line
[06:22] <eXistenZ> Has anyone succeded to sync between evolution <-> google calendar or thunderbird <-> google calendar ?
[06:22] <A[D] minS> guys how i can know active IPs which online in my network
[06:22] <A[D] minS> want to ping all my network to know who is online
[06:22] <Johny> Hi ;))
[06:22] <hanasaki> arrick1: you still here?
[06:23] <arrick1> yeah
[06:23] <steve343> the is nothing in hostname
[06:23] <_jason> steve343: and /etc/hostname?
[06:23] <hanasaki> they were japanese/chinese fonts
[06:23] <eugman> Mabus, I'm going to be getting ubuntu running for a relative at some point in the future who I see on a less than daily basis. At someone point windows 98 will be installed on a certain partition for specific reasons and I like a boot disk for ubuntu until I can reinstall grub.
[06:23] <_jason> steve343: pick a hostname for yourself
[06:23] <LinuxJones> steve343: you need a hostname
[06:23] <steve343> i cant edit that file
[06:23] <javi_> hi
[06:23] <hanasaki> arrick1: problem solved :)
[06:24] <bakert> steve343, put "sudo" before the edit command
[06:24] <arrick1> ok what was the problem?
[06:24] <javi_> somebody has problems with Xorg && ati && dapper -> from 2 days ago ?
[06:24] <Jowi> A[D] minS: ping broadcast: "ping -b <IP_ADDRESS>"
[06:24] <mabus> eugman: Well what I described is essentially a boot disc.
[06:24] <_jason> steve343: that's ok, let's say you want your hostname to be 'steve', you would add it to the end of the first line in /etc/hosts and put it in /etc/hostname as well.  If sudo isn't working, just reboot in recovery mode and use 'nano'
[06:24] <steve343> sudo: unable to lookup  via gethostname()
[06:24] <linux6754>  i downloade kernel <IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz ... I must install it in recovery mode in ubuntu....what can i do?????? hel me please
[06:24] <hanasaki> arrick1:  they were japanese/chinese fonts
[06:24] <minerale> which man page would cover sytax for [u,d,f] mask ... I am not understanding how this mask works
[06:24] <minerale> (ie when you mount volumes)
[06:24] <arrick1> oh ok
[06:25] <_jason> steve343: in /etc/hostname, you would put 'steve' by itself (not the same as /etc/hosts)
[06:25] <hanasaki> arrick1:  install a font w/ kochi and mincho in the naem
[06:25] <serp> where is the Applications menu stored? I wanna edit it manually
[06:25] <arrick1> I guess that would be true, cause firefox would be guessing
[06:25] <linux6754> who can help me please???
[06:25] <arrick1> haha
[06:25] <hanasaki> your blank bullets will go away.. mine showed the JIS double byte code
[06:25] <steve343> but i cant edit wither of them
[06:25] <arrick1> ok
[06:25] <linux6754> hy even go near the kernel there is so much more to do than that
[06:25] <arrick1> well, I'll be back in a bit guys
[06:26] <bakert> steve343, hmm ok i seem to have come in in the middle of this one ... i thought you wanted to edit /etc/hosts - sorry!
[06:26] <_jason> steve343: reboot in recovery mode (it's a selection in the grub prompt)
[06:26] <linux6754> i downloade kernel <IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz ... I must install it in recovery mode in ubuntu....what can i do?????? hel me please
[06:26] <ENE|Toxic> Without placing an if statement before this piece of code, what does it do ? (in bash) [ -f file ]
[06:26] <gnomefreak> linux6754: why didnt you just install dapper drake it has 2.6.15-21 kernel
[06:26] <steve343> sudo sudookie
[06:26] <_jason> steve343: once there, you would use the editor 'nano', so you would do: nano /etc/hosts and then the same for /etc/hostname
[06:27] <steve343> so i need to just chang hostname or both?
[06:27] <_jason> steve343: both, you need to make the /etc/hostname file contain 'steve' by itself.  Then you need to add 'steve' to the end of the first line in /etc/hosts that you pasted before
[06:28] <morphix> are there any how-to's for setting up samba users using shell and not GUI?.. i am too lazy too remember how to do it all again
[06:28] <steve343> okie
[06:28] <linux6754>  drapper is equalt to breezy??
[06:28] <linux6754> what can i do for installa kernel?????????
[06:28] <_jason> !dapper
[06:28] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[06:28] <nix4me> anyone having print share problems with dapper?
[06:29] <nix4me> i cant get my windows boxes to print to dapper printer
[06:29] <bakert> nix4me, or try #ubuntu+1 group
[06:29] <nix4me> ok
[06:30] <vapor> Greetings ubuntu earthlings
[06:30] <diego> hola a todos hay alguien que hable espaol?
[06:30] <steve343> ok
[06:30] <javi_> diego, yo pero esto es un canal de habla inglesa
[06:30] <Johny> ~dapper
[06:30] <Johny> !dapper
[06:30] <steve343> in nano im getting no such file or directory
[06:30] <_jason> !es
[06:30] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[06:30] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:30] <vapor> Which is better, Evelooution email or thunderbird
[06:31] <Johny> !pl
[06:31] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:31] <_jason> steve343: what did you type exactly?
[06:31] <javi_> !en
[06:31] <ubotu> from memory, en is Queen's English Speakers; Essex inhabitants who may all go to #ubuntu-uk - anyone from the Island of Great Britain is also welcome.
[06:31] <zeeeeee> hi all, i installed 5.10 in vmware. i can't change the resolution; i want to lower it, but when i do (using the Preferences > Screen Resolution) the screen gets completely garbled (and reverts back after the timeout). following http://tinyurl.com/zw3ba and http://tinyurl.com/nsnq6, i lowered DefaultDepth to 16, but didn't work. any other ideas? i've also posted my problem to http://tinyurl.com/ne4bm
[06:31] <Sionide> lol @ queen's english speakers
[06:32] <vapor> Which is better, Evolution email or thunderbird
[06:32] <steve343> in nano
[06:32] <steve343> or to deit the file?
[06:32] <_jason> steve343: both
[06:32] <Sionide> vapor, i prefer thunderbird - try both and see how you get on.. evolution is integrated better
[06:32] <steve343> well i type nano /etc/hostname
[06:32] <steve343> then added steve
[06:32] <steve343> pressed f3
[06:33] <Paul159190> hi there, l need some help any1 here? thanks!
[06:33] <Johny> hallo alle, brachte ich 5.10 in vmware an. ich kann nicht die Auflsung ndern
[06:33] <sander_> Hi everyone!
[06:33] <vapor> Sionide: Is thunderbird difficult to install on ubuntu? Or is their a deb package.
[06:33] <sander_> What is your problem Paul?
[06:33] <steve343> when i tried sudo nano /etc/hostname  i got the useual sudo: unable to lookup via gethostbyname()
[06:33] <Paul159190> I am trying to install ubuntu on my oldworld mac, l get to the part about the mount point, the instructions say " Make a mountpoint and mount the HFS filesystem."
[06:33] <arrick1> anyone, is challenger as good as apache2?
[06:34] <_jason> steve343: no you shouldn't need sudo
[06:34] <arrick1> Roxen Challenger Webserver
[06:34] <Sionide> vapor, sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[06:34] <Paul159190> then it says 'cd /target' l do that, then l type the 'mkdir hfs' just like the manual says then l do 'mount /dev/sda5 hfs -t hfs' but then it tell me no such file or directory
[06:34] <_jason> steve343: f3 is equivalent to ^O right?
[06:34] <Paul159190> what am l doing wrong, l don't get how l make a mount point or anything? :S
[06:34] <sander_> Pff a mac, I wouldnt know anything about that
[06:34] <newbie33> hello, I need ap that would show shared files on the network, ability to search execute etc..
[06:35] <diego> gracias javi
[06:35] <Paul159190> do you know how to make a mount point, l don't even get why l need to make a mount point, lm a linux n00b lol
[06:35] <vapor> thanks Sionide. Was leaning towards Thruderbird side.
[06:35] <diego> y como hago para entrar en un canal espaol?
[06:35] <_jason> Paul159190: why do you replace I with l?
[06:35] <gnomefreak> !es
[06:35] <Sionide> vapor, no trouble:)
[06:35] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:35] <steve343> well it just says "error writing etc/hostname: no such file or directory"
[06:35] <steve343> yes
[06:35] <eugman> n
[06:35] <eugman> whoops
[06:36] <_jason> steve343: hmm, you sure you put a / in front of the path when you opened nano?
[06:36] <ProN00b> is there any download tool that i can download from multiple sources at once ?
[06:36] <steve343> not entirly now
[06:36] <steve343> ill go have alook
[06:36] <arrick1> yeah apt-get ProN00b
[06:36] <LinuxJones> steve343: it's /etc/hostname
[06:36] <ProN00b> arrick1, wtf are you on ?
[06:37] <arrick1> ubuntu
[06:37] <ProN00b> arrick1, no, i mean in therms of medication
[06:37] <arrick1> oh ok
[06:37] <arrick1> nothing
[06:37] <steve343> yay its working
[06:37] <LinuxJones> steve343: )
[06:37] <arrick1> ProN00b, I have multiple sources for most things in my repos
[06:38] <arrick1> that way if one is down It will pull from another
[06:38] <wizzlefish> I'm having trouble installing Firefox 1.5 - it's not in apt-get, and I have no clue on how to compile the source. I downloaded the binaries, but I'm not sure how to use them either. I'm new to Ubuntu (installed Monday) and this is the first application I've had to install. How would I use the binary?
[06:38] <ProN00b> arrick1, see the "at once" up there
[06:38] <steve343> when im editing the first line in /etc/hosts do i replace the localhost name or add after it
[06:38] <arrick1> oh o, sorry
[06:38] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[06:38] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:38] <gnomefreak> ^^ wizzlefish
[06:38] <wizzlefish> thanks
[06:39] <LinuxJones> steve343: just add it to the end of the first line
[06:39] <Doat> Paul159190, where exactly did you make the directory hfs?
[06:39] <arrick1> ProN00b, I just glance, dont always read the whole thing, but sorry
[06:40] <Paul159190> Dost, l don't know :S
[06:40] <Paul159190> I am a noob, l'm just following what the manual says
[06:40] <Paul159190> l made the hfs at cd /target
[06:40] <Paul159190> but wots target? :S
[06:40] <Doat> Paul159190, try: $ sudo mkdir /media/hfs
[06:41] <daryl> I am running: wine Installer.exe and getting an error in a popup window.  Sorry, the installer could not be initialized.  Unrecognized key "options". (AttributeParser::Parse).  I posted the whole thing into Ubunto pastebin, under user name daryl256.  Could someone take a look?
[06:41] <Paul159190> ok will do
[06:41] <steve343> im still getting the warning msg at the start of ubuntu
[06:41] <arrick1> anyone, is there a way to set up streaming audio that my sterio can pickup?
[06:41] <Doat> Paul159190, and then $ sudo mount /dev/sda6 /media/hfs -t hfs
[06:41] <_jason> steve343: is sudo working now?
[06:41] <arrick1> form my pc wireless?
[06:41] <steve343> nope
[06:41] <steve343> but i havent rebooted yet
[06:41] <steve343> shall i do that?
[06:41] <Doat> Paul159190, or sda5 whatever it is you want to mount
[06:42] <_jason> steve343: hmm paste what the lines look like first
[06:42] <Xenguy> crimsun: hello, long time no chat... I'm wondering if you could help me interpret the current status of that old bug report you requested I file at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/6354 ...
[06:42] <Xenguy> crimsun: For example, I just did the latest Breezy update (kernel and xorg), so I'm wondering if perhaps my sound will now work automagically?  Secondly there is a note at the top of the bug page about alsa-driver in Ubuntu: do I need to do further bug reporting in this regard?  Thanks in advance for your insights.
[06:43] <steve343> <IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localomain localhost steve
[06:43] <steve343> and steve
[06:43] <daryl> I'm having a problem with wow install.  Anyone able to help?
[06:43] <crimsun> Xenguy: no, I've fixed it in Dapper. Breezy only receives security updates.
[06:44] <Xenguy> crimsun: so my sound should 'just work' in breezy when I dist-upgrade then?
[06:44] <Eroick> can I ask dapper questions in here?
[06:44] <crimsun> Xenguy: to Dapper, yes.
[06:44] <crimsun> Eroick: #ubuntu+1
[06:44] <linux6754> what is the differce betweeb breezy 5.10 and Dapper 6.06 ??????
[06:44] <fede2> Hey guys, I'm having problems with a Creative Labs SB Audigy LS running 2.6.15-21-686 on dapper.
[06:45] <gnomefreak> Eroick: use #ubuntu+1 for dapper please
[06:45] <Xenguy> crimsun: er, dapper, right
[06:45] <daryl> Having a Wow problem, need some help.  dont' want to spam chat.  I posted the example up a few screens int he chat.
[06:45] <crimsun> fede2: #ubuntu+1
[06:45] <fede2> crimsun: Thanks.
[06:45] <tesla> hi!!
[06:46] <Xenguy> crimsun: thanks -- and the alsa-driver note requires no action on my part?
[06:46] <crimsun> Xenguy: none
[06:46] <Xenguy> crimsun: thank you again
[06:46] <crimsun> Xenguy: np
[06:46] <daryl> crimsun: when you get done w/him could you look at my problem?
[06:46] <jadaz87> what is the dofference between IMps/2 and ExplorerPS/2? in reference to a mouse??
[06:47] <Subhuman> Imps/2 is just a generic term for a ps/2 mouse i think.
[06:47] <aphesz> Hi, im having problem with my xserver. I've upgraded it via apt-get last night and now it can only detect / run on 640x480 resolution only.
[06:47] <Subhuman> and explorer sounds like a specific mouse make
[06:48] <jadaz87> which one should i pick?
[06:48] <jadaz87> lol
[06:48] <squiddle> jadaz87  IMPS/2 at first
[06:48] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: the imps/2
[06:48] <aphesz> anyone can help me ?
[06:48] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell aphesz -about fixres
[06:49] <newbie33> what app could be used for show shared files on the network, ability to search execute etc..
[06:49] <crimsun> daryl: what's your issue?
[06:49] <steve343> Horray everything is working after the reboot
[06:49] <steve343> sudo the network program
[06:49] <daryl> crimsun:I am running: wine Installer.exe and getting an error in a popup window.  Sorry, the installer could not be initialized.  Unrecognized key "options". (AttributeParser::Parse).  I posted the whole thing into Ubunto pastebin, under user name daryl256.
[06:50] <crimsun> daryl: sorry, not a wine person.
[06:50] <steve343> while does changing the hostname to nothing do all that damage tho?
[06:50] <daryl> crimsun: doh!
[06:50] <gnomefreak> daryl: you might have better luck in #winehq
[06:50] <daryl> oh? thank you Gnomefreak
[06:51] <gnomefreak> yw personally i stay away from wine and the like
[06:51] <steve343> thank to all thouse that helped
[06:51] <steve343> see you soon no doubt but i'll try and read as much as i can
[06:52] <Paul159190> Ok guys l now have a new problem
[06:52] <lufis> How can I get tabs in Firefox to close when I click on them with the middle mouse button?
[06:52] <aphesz> gnomefreak: thanks. i'll try that first.
[06:52] <gnomefreak> Paul159190: can you explain more?
[06:52] <Paul159190> I am on the very last step of installing ubuntu, l am copying a file but there is not enough space left for it, so does anybody know of any crap file l can delete from the ubuntu installation @ hda6 to make space
[06:53] <gnomefreak> Paul159190: how big of a partition did you give for ubuntu
[06:53] <daryl> gnomefreak: i'm trying to run world of warcraft.  You said you avoid wine, etc.  but isn't that the only way to run World of Warcraft?
[06:54] <gnomefreak> !wow
[06:54] <ubotu> wow is, like, To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[06:54] <Paul159190> ok nvm, its not the ubuntu partition which is full its my mac os partition, mmm l will think of something to delete, thanks anyway :D lets hope this all goes right
[06:54] <daryl> gnomefreak: yes, thats what I've been following.
[06:54] <administrator__> hello, can somebody help me?
[06:54] <administrator__> http://pastebin.com/702026
[06:55] <gnomefreak> daryl: ok hold on a sec
[06:55] <Paul159190> whats the delete command lol?
[06:55] <gnomefreak> Paul159190: rm
[06:55] <Paul159190> ty :)
[06:55] <bakert> Paul159190, rm but best to use it with -i flag
[06:55] <Aven> hey, anyone know how to set the default media player?
[06:55] <gnomefreak> Paul159190: depends on what you are deleting
[06:55] <bakert> Paul159190, as it is dangerous!
[06:55] <administrator__> gnomefreak Paul159190: depends on what you are deleting
[06:55] <bakert> Aven, right click a file of the right type, choose properties and look at the application (or something like that) tab
[06:55] <Paul159190> well, l does this command look right rm 'cd /System\ Folder/fonts'
[06:56] <Paul159190> its my mac os system folder , l need to delete something so fonts can go
[06:56] <bakert> Aven, its actually "open with" tab
[06:56] <Aven> bakert: I want it to be default for all media players though
[06:56] <Aven> not just one file
[06:56] <daharon> hey guys, I'm trying out Ubuntu, been using Gentoo for years.  It seems that a lot of packages mentioned in the forums don't show up in Synaptic (like flashplugin-nonfree).  I did an apt-get update
[06:56] <Howitzer> Does somebody know of a way  to make the status-bar in Firefox as small as possible?, it's really thick which bothers me
[06:56] <bakert> Aven, will work with all files of that type from then on.  not sure how you do multiple file types at once.
[06:56] <administrator__> http://pastebin.com/702026
[06:56] <administrator__> please help :-/
[06:56] <knanand> Can someone help me to install mozilla suite 1.7??
[06:56] <gnomefreak> daryl: the exe you are trying to run is that the wine.exe or for the game?
[06:57] <gnomefreak> knanand: sudo apt-get install mozilla
[06:57] <gnomefreak> wait
[06:57] <gnomefreak> knanand: 1.7?
[06:57] <gnomefreak> 1.5 is barely stable
[06:57] <Aven> what's the latest version?
[06:57] <Aven> of mozilla
[06:58] <knanand> i'm talking of mozilla suite not firefox...
[06:58] <gnomefreak> Aven: <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:58] <Paul159190> or is it rm -'cd /System\ Folder/fonts'
[06:58] <iocaste> dahron: you need to enable the multiverse repositories, read this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:58] <Aven> ah
[06:58] <Paul159190> l mean rm -- -'cd /System\ Folder/fonts'
[06:58] <gnomefreak> knanand: what version is in your repos
[06:58] <Urza> hay guys, anybody got any ideas why my brand new ubuntu installation will connect to a few websites, but won't to most of them :(
[06:58] <knanand> i recently downloaded mozilla 1.7 installer for linux from mozilla.org i followed the instructions in readme but i'm not able to install it gives an error saying "Fatal error 606 could not read readme" how can i solve this??
[06:59] <jazzanova> hi
[06:59] <jazzanova> where do I get alsa-lib-jack-plugin package ?
[07:00] <Paul159190> hey guys, how do l remove a folder called 'fonts'
[07:00] <Paul159190> when l try it just tells me that rm: fonts: is a drectory
[07:00] <Howitzer> "sudo apt-get install alsa-lib-jack-plugin"
[07:00] <daharon> hey guys, I'm trying out Ubuntu, been using Gentoo for years.  It seems that a lot of packages mentioned in the forums don't show up in Synaptic (like flashplugin-nonfree).  I did an apt-get update
[07:00] <iocaste> dahron: you need to enable the multiverse repositories, read this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:01] <jazzanova> howitzer: its not in the db. maybe i am missing some src lines ?
[07:01] <PrimoTurbo> What's the command to view your cpu info?
[07:01] <magical_trevsky> Paul159190, rm -r fonts
[07:01] <Paul159190> ty ::)
[07:01] <tritium> daharon: and universe repositories as well
[07:01] <magical_trevsky> PrimoTurbo, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:01] <daharon> iocaste: thanks
[07:01] <PrimoTurbo> thnx
[07:02] <PrimoTurbo> Can u tell me what this will do? sudo /etc/init.d/powernowd stop
[07:02] <Howitzer> jazzanova, in Dapper, it's called libbio2jack0 you should do 'apt-cache search jack alsa'
[07:02] <PrimoTurbo> it will stop powernowd but what is powernowd?
[07:03] <magical_trevsky> powernowd - control cpu speed and voltage using 2.6 kernel interface
[07:03] <dooglus> how can I tell nautilus to use mplayer to open .avi files instead of totem?
[07:04] <_jason> !defaultapp
[07:04] <ubotu> To change the default app for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties, then the "Open With" tab and change the setting
[07:04] <jazzanova> howitzer: whats Dapper ?
[07:04] <arcade> .. what's the right way to get the newest kernel version to work with ubuntu? :)
[07:04] <Howitzer> the testing version of Ubuntu
[07:05] <Howitzer> it's more up to date, but you can get more problems because it has not been so thoroughly tested as Breezy is
[07:05] <jazzanova> howitzer: got it.
[07:05] <Howitzer> :-)
[07:05] <samuel> anyone know a page in ubuntu.com with a list of repo mirrors?
[07:05] <Howitzer> is it for Wine btw?
[07:06] <dooglus> _jason: I right click and say 'open with'.  I see 'mplayer' in the list.  will clicking it change the default?
[07:06] <_jason> dooglus: no, click on properties then open with tab
[07:06] <dooglus> _jason: magical!  thanks a lot!
[07:07] <gnomefreak> !sources
[07:07] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:07] <dooglus> also, is there something I need to download so that the default 'movie player' app can play .avi movies?  mplayer plays them, but movie player won't
[07:07] <gnomefreak> ^^^^ samuel
[07:07] <linuxcrazy> hey
[07:07] <_jason> dooglus: use totem-xine
[07:07] <Ohzie> I have read/write errors on part of my hard drive. The system boots, it just takes a long time. Is there any app I can scan it with that will mark the messed up parts to be ignored?
[07:07] <Urza> okay this is really bugging me now, I installed Ubuntu, did all updates, so I know the net connection is working, then I can go on ubuntu website, which runs rather slow, but I can't get google to load, or most other sites I try, does anybody have any ideas why this is happening and how to fix it??
[07:08] <samuel> !easysource
[07:08] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic