[02:52] <Phoul> Okay when i open limewire its stupidly slow any ideas
[02:53] <_jason> tomodachi, quit
[02:53] <eobanb_> kick it, now.
[02:53] <tomodachi> insufficient "quit" auth (have 10, need 90)
[02:53] <_jason> lol
[02:53] <kevinix> _jason|soup can't install totem-xine as it conflicts with totem-gstreamer. i can't purge toten-gstreamer as rhythmbox depends on it, and ubuntu-desktop depends on rhythmbox.
[02:53] <Toma-> tomodachi: quit please
[02:53] <tomodachi> insufficient "quit" auth (have 10, need 90)
[02:53] <kevinix> time for aptitude ;)
[02:53] <MasterTsunami> tomodachi, shut up
[02:53] <Toma-> tomodachi: quit tomodachi
[02:53] <tomodachi> insufficient "quit" auth (have 10, need 90)
[02:53] <Phoul> _jason, any ideas?
[02:53] <ElitePete> tomodachi die ?
[02:53] <tomodachi> beats me
[02:53] <nickrud> tomodachi,
[02:53] <MasterTsunami> tomodachi, quiet
[02:53] <tomodachi> insufficient "talk" auth (have 10, need 40)
[02:53] <MasterTsunami> :/
[02:53] <_jason> kevinix, yeah, totem-xine will replace totem-gstreamer
[02:53] <eobanb_> we're in the wrong user class
[02:53] <Phoul> _jason, any ideas?
[02:53] <eobanb_> thank you..
[02:53] <Toma-> tomodachi: youre banned :D
[02:53] <benplaut> nalioth: thanks
[02:53] <nickrud> thanks
[02:53] <frogzoo> tomodachi: stfu
[02:54] <Toma-> thx nalioth
[02:54] <ElitePete> can ayone help me with a small alsamixer problem ??
[02:54] <OpnSrc> Sometimes when i go to the menu editor and change things, it doesn't update
[02:54] <benplaut> actually, that's comradevi
[02:54] <OpnSrc> how do i fix it?
[02:54] <_jason> Phoul, sorry, I was probably still eating my soup when you asked, can you repeat your question?
[02:54] <Phoul> Why is limewire stupidly slow when i start it?
[02:54] <mak> Toma-: i've read on ubuntuforums.org and many people had the same problem with ubuntu 5.04
[02:54] <sklav> is thre a linux recovery option in ubuntu install cd?
[02:54] <Toma-> ok, ElitePete "amixer set Mic 100" is a handy command that'll set your mic to 100. use gnome startup commands to make it start on boot
[02:54] <mak> Toma-: it seems to happen on 5.10, too...
[02:54] <bob2> sklav: what would it do?
[02:54] <Toma-> mak: gimme a sec
[02:55] <TokenBad> ok folks..see if anyone can help here...
[02:55] <_jason> Phoul, probably because it uses java.  I don't use it so I can't really say whether or not that is normal behavior for limewire
[02:55] <sklav> im trying to install grub on hdb1
[02:55] <ElitePete> Toma-, the problem is the mic it wants to use is "mic" but my mic is "front mic"
[02:55] <TokenBad> I just tried to get my printer to work
[02:55] <sklav> but i keep getting an error
[02:55] <Phoul> _jason, what do you use?
[02:55] <sklav> -- /dev/hdb1 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[02:55] <TokenBad> and when tried to install driver it recommended
[02:55] <TokenBad> meaning ubuntu
[02:55] <bob2> sklav: boot installer, proceed through to partitioning stage. alt-f2 to a terminal, resetup grub
[02:55] <sklav> but im in ubuntu which is installed on hdb1
[02:55] <TokenBad> it gave error of missing asterisk in column 1
[02:55] <TokenBad> and errors out
[02:55] <sklav> bob2, im in ubuntu
[02:55] <TokenBad> any ideas?
[02:55] <bob2> sklav: or use the expert mode and select install grub from the menu
[02:55] <Arafangion> So, does anybody have any suggestions as to how to troubleshoot my ACPI resume-from-standby bug?
[02:55] <amonkey> where can i ask about wifi hardware for use with linux?
[02:55] <Toma-> ElitePete: well change the channel (eg. Mic) to front mic
[02:55] <Phoul> _jason?
[02:55] <sklav> im trying to move this hdd to another system
[02:55] <bob2> sklav: you've mounted /dev/bha1
[02:56] <ElitePete> Toma-, i do but it defaults when i reboot.. that is the problem
[02:56] <frogzoo> bob2: can you just boot 'recovery' or something ?
[02:56] <bob2> amonkey: anything aside from broadcom or TI or acx should be fine
[02:56] <sklav> but when in the other system nadda happens
[02:56] <bob2> frogzoo: not if grub is gone
[02:56] <Toma-> ElitePete: id say so...
[02:56] <sklav> so im trying to install grub on its mbr so that i can modifi it then
[02:56] <kevinix> i've installed skype via the package on skype.com. i had to dpkg -i --force-all install it as it wanted a libqt3-mt or similar not installable. anyone else experience this?
[02:56] <_jason> Phoul, I don't use the gnutella network at all
[02:56] <frogzoo> bob2: I mean, from the install disk
[02:56] <Phoul> jason what do you use?
[02:56] <Phoul> what program
[02:56] <kevinix> it runs fine, but now apt considers the package broken
[02:56] <Arafangion> kevinix: That is likely to be a *debian* package.
[02:57] <bob2> kevinix: um, don't do that
[02:57] <_jason> Phoul, for file-sharing all I need is a torrent client and the one provided in gnome suffices for me
[02:57] <bob2> kevinix: get the static tarball and use that
[02:57] <sklav> any idea  bob2 how to migrate it to the other system?
[02:57] <kevinix> Arafangion, no, it says, ubuntu, debian xandros
[02:57] <ElitePete> Toma-, i just changed it using sudo alsamixer
[02:57] <bob2> frogzoo: not that I'm aware of
[02:57] <ElitePete> maybe that was the problem?
[02:57] <ElitePete> that i wasn't using sudo
[02:57] <bob2> sklav: moving a hard disk without a rescue plan is a terrible idea
[02:57] <OpnSrc> When I change things on the KDE menu editor sometimes it doesn't update
[02:57] <Toma-> ElitePete: that wouldnt matter
[02:57] <kevinix> bob2, even though skype.com said it was for ubuntu?
[02:57] <bob2> sklav: have you mounted the disk in the installer yet?
[02:57] <OpnSrc> and I'll keep trying but it still won't update. How do I fix it?
[02:57] <bimberi> ubotu tell kevinix about skype
[02:57] <bob2> kevinix: indeed
[02:57] <bimberi> ubotflu tell kevinix about skype
[02:57] <kevinix> bob2, ok
[02:57] <bob2> OpnSrc: #kubuntu
[02:57] <sklav> im past the installer
[02:57] <TokenBad> take that as a no
[02:57] <Arafangion> kevinix: Well, that package (qt) was a strictly debian package.
[02:57] <ElitePete> Well Toma-, i'm stumped then
[02:57] <butcherbird> sklav, if u type sudo grub and then root (hd1,0) and then setup (hd1) or whatever hd you want mbr to go to does it work?
[02:57] <sklav> im installed and running
[02:57] <benplaut> ln -s ubotflu ubotu
[02:57] <_jason> Phoul, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing presents gtk-gnutella as an alternative to limewire.  Maybe you can try that
[02:57] <OpnSrc> thanks
[02:58] <Phoul> jason i did
[02:58] <Phoul> It wouldnt let anything through
[02:58] <ElitePete> hi _jason any chance you could help me with a small alsamixer problem?
[02:58] <kevinix> Arafangion, http://www.skype.com/products/skype/linux/
[02:58] <CaptainMorgan> nickrud how do I get rid of the same color for text files?
[02:58] <kevinix> Arafangion, it does state 'ubuntu'
[02:58] <bob2> sklav: blah blah
[02:58] <kevinix> !skype
[02:58] <ubotflu> skype is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:58] <_jason> ElitePete, doubtful since I don't understand anything about it
[02:58] <bob2> sklav: have you mounted the hdb1 yet or not?
[02:58] <ElitePete> Ok.
[02:58] <_jason> ElitePete, you are better off just asking your question
[02:59] <ElitePete> My alsamixer does not save my settings, when i reboot i have to set my mics up again.
[02:59] <sklav> Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
[02:59] <Toma-> mak: try adding 'Load  "dri" ' after the "Section "Module"" part
[02:59] <bob2> sklav: have you mounted it or not?
[02:59] <sklav> yes
[02:59] <sklav> its mounted
[02:59] <bob2> sklav: and you chrooted into it?
[02:59] <Arafangion> kevinix: Looks like they failed to do their research, looks like they've classified ubuntu as "debian" merely because they've both used apt.
[02:59] <sklav> yes
[02:59] <sklav> im in it
[02:59] <Toma-> ElitePete: so what channel do you need turned up on boot?
[02:59] <sklav> this is what i get now
[02:59] <sklav> Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
[02:59] <kevinix> Arafangion, it seems so
[02:59] <ElitePete> i just need it to change from "mic" to "front mic"
[03:00] <kevinix> bob2, the HOWTO on the wiki is great, thanks
[03:00] <bob2> sklav: that output is not very useful without you mentioning what is producing it
[03:00] <bob2> kevinix: np, good luck
[03:00] <Toma-> ElitePete: you wanna rename the channels?
[03:00] <sklav> ok i typed
[03:00] <sklav> grub
[03:00] <sklav> and then root (hd1,0)
[03:00] <mak> Toma-: ok, it's done
[03:00] <sklav> and then i get that mesg
[03:00] <Toma-> mak: now reset X and hope!
[03:00] <_jason> !enter
[03:00] <ubotflu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[03:00] <ElitePete> Toma-, i can do that?
[03:01] <Arafangion> kevinix: Next time when you install something like that, from something that says it's for debian, use the .tar.bz or even the .rpm (And use rpm2cpio, and install that). I would highly recommend you to use checkinstall to produce a generic ubuntu program (with no dependencies, you'll have to manage them yourselves)
[03:01] <Toma-> ElitePete: not that i know of..
[03:01] <mak> Toma-: thanks!
[03:01] <ElitePete> Toma-, i don't think you understand my problem.
[03:01] <Toma-> mak: i hope it works too :D
[03:01] <CaptainMorgan> what's the chmod option for text files ?
[03:01] <Toma-> ElitePete: i know i dont understand your problem :D
[03:01] <ElitePete> it's just using the wrong port in alsa mixer, it works fine when i change it.
[03:01] <Arafangion> CaptainMorgan: Uh?
[03:01] <butcherbird> sklav, type setup (hd1) to put it on mbr of hdb or setup (hd0) to put on hda
[03:01] <ElitePete> it starts at Mic, but my mic is located at front mic
[03:01] <CaptainMorgan> text files without a suffix
[03:01] <bob2> CaptainMorgan: those two concepts are unrelated
[03:02] <TokenBad> ok i need help with ubuntu and printer....help......
[03:02] <bob2> TokenBad: you need to ask a coherent question first
[03:02] <Arafangion> CaptainMorgan: What has a suffix got to do with anything?
[03:02] <Toma-> ElitePete: you have 2 mics?
[03:02] <CaptainMorgan> omg... vic secret fashion show is on...
[03:02] <ElitePete> No Toma-,
[03:02] <ElitePete> it just shows 2 mic ports.
[03:02] <tomaj> CaptainMorgan, lol
[03:02] <bob2> CaptainMorgan: this is not windows; the file extension has no effect on whether something is runnable
[03:02] <nickrud> CaptainMorgan, nm, vic secret
[03:02] <Arafangion> kevinix: btw, what is skype like?
[03:02] <Toma-> ahh
[03:02] <TokenBad> I have over and over
[03:02] <sklav> ok
[03:02] <TokenBad> ok folks..see if anyone can help here...
[03:02] <Arafangion> kevinix: I'm considering using it for a small business.
[03:02] <TokenBad> I just tried to get my printer to work
[03:02] <sklav> says it worked let me try i will be back ;)
[03:02] <TokenBad> and when tried to install driver it recommended
[03:02] <Arafangion> kevinix: Mainly inter-office communication.
[03:02] <TokenBad> meaning ubuntu
[03:02] <butcherbird> sklav, good luck :)
[03:02] <CaptainMorgan> well chmod -x *.c changed all .c files to black but it skipped text files
[03:03] <TokenBad> it gave error of missing asterisk in column 1
[03:03] <Arafangion> CaptainMorgan: Dude, *.c files *ARE* text files.
[03:03] <nickrud> CaptainMorgan, the chmod command works for any file; that execute bit it mentioned earlier can be on any file. Just -x the files you want.
[03:03] <bob2> TokenBad: no, this question is useless
[03:03] <Toma-> ElitePete: so let me get this straight, you want to change the Mic channel to Front Mic channel?
[03:04] <bob2> TokenBad: you need to mention a) the brand and model, b) what happened when you used the normal add printer option from the gnome panel and c) what driver you're trying to install
[03:04] <CaptainMorgan> but I have a text file - data5 for example - which has no extension
[03:04] <CaptainMorgan> it did not change color
[03:04] <butcherbird> CaptainMorgan, as long as youre able to read those files I wouldnt think it would matter the chmod settings
[03:04] <bob2> CaptainMorgan: you told it to touch *.c
[03:04] <ElitePete> Toma-, i can do it, i'm trying to tell you it just resets to "mic" when i reboot
[03:04] <CaptainMorgan> my gawd, these women ARE angels..
[03:04] <bob2> CaptainMorgan: data5 does not match *.c
[03:04] <Goldfish> CaptainMorgan: That command changed every file ending in .c. chmod -x data5
[03:04] <bob2> CaptainMorgan: you're confusing "filename" with "filetype"
[03:04] <nickrud> CaptainMorgan, also, linux looks at the file directly to figure out what it is, it does not use the extensions to figure it out
[03:04] <CaptainMorgan> right, bob so how to change it?
[03:04] <bob2> CaptainMorgan: C files should never ever be executable
[03:04] <Toma-> ElitePete: so you need something to either store or unmute and turn the level up on mic at boot?
[03:04] <TokenBad> bob2 ok
[03:05] <ElitePete> No Toma-, i just need alsamixer to remember the channel i have it set at...
[03:05] <TokenBad> its a epson stylus 740
[03:05] <TokenBad> when I did the reg new printer
[03:05] <Arafangion> kevinix: What is skype like?
[03:05] <TokenBad> it detects the printer
[03:05] <TokenBad> and adds it
[03:05] <bob2> TokenBad: stop using enter so much, it's ridiculous
[03:05] <Toma-> ElitePete: itll be some sort of alsactl kung-fu...
[03:05] <Toma-> or even aliases...
[03:05] <TokenBad> but when try to print it just sits there
[03:05] <TokenBad> ok sorry
[03:05] <JoeyDay|ubuntu> Anybody know how I can install ez-ipupdate on Ubuntu or can point me in the right direction as to where I could find out how?
[03:06] <ElitePete> Toma-, i donot know kung fu :-(
[03:06] <bob2> JoeyDay|ubuntu: wiki./ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[03:06] <Toma-> :~(
[03:06] <Toma-> 'man alsactl'
[03:06] <ElitePete> why doesn't alsamixer save my shit?
[03:06] <ElitePete> ~_~
[03:06] <bob2> do you know what it does?
[03:06] <factotum> did you do alsactl store?
[03:07] <Toma-> ElitePete: coz alsamixer doesnt save... alsactl does
[03:07] <JoeyDay|ubuntu> bob2: Thanks.
[03:07] <ElitePete>  store saves the current driver state for the selected soundcard to  the
[03:07] <ElitePete>        configuration file.
[03:07] <ElitePete> so i want to save right now?
[03:07] <CaptainMorgan> cd: /media/win permission denied what's the chmod option ?
[03:07] <Neurosis> how may i get images to show in elinks?
[03:07] <Goldfish> There should be a shutdown link like /etc/rc0.d/K50alsa-util, which stashes alsa stuff to disk before powering off.
[03:07] <Toma-> ElitePete: id say so..
[03:07] <bob2> CaptainMorgan: that's not a "chmod option"
[03:07] <ElitePete> then will i have to restore each time?
[03:07] <bob2> CaptainMorgan: presumably it's a NTFS or FAT32 filesystem?
[03:07] <Blake_Seven> I think I have a problem !!! My dell server rebooted and said it loaded a new boot rom. I also have someone on my auth.log trying to get in to sshd. How do I know if my server has a hacker in it ?
[03:07] <CaptainMorgan> yes
[03:07] <Toma-> Goldfish: ewww dont screw with links :(
[03:07] <Toma-> ElitePete: nope.
[03:07] <gnomefreak> i meant to ask what is the deal with enter? ubotu says not to use enter
[03:08] <CaptainMorgan> brb, have to log in as root
[03:08] <bob2> CaptainMorgan: stop
[03:08] <ElitePete> alsactl: save_state:1190: Cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for writing
[03:08] <Goldfish> I didn't screw with anything. That was installed by default. If you ain't got it, something ain't loaded right.
[03:08] <bob2> don't be so silly
[03:08] <bob2> gnomefreak: it's moronic that people type 3 words, hit enter, and type another 3
[03:08] <ElitePete> then i did sudo alsactl store and i think it worked? but i got no message
[03:08] <Toma-> what we need to do, is get the startup script that stores all that to work right, aka, /etc/init.d/alsa-utils
[03:08] <eobanb_> bob2, yeah.
[03:08] <bob2> gnomefreak: people are presumably capable of composing an entire sentence in their head at once, and typing that out
[03:08] <CaptainMorgan> well?
[03:08] <factotum> ElitePete: you usually dont get one
[03:08] <gnomefreak> Neurosis, elinks is a text browser if you compile it from source might be different but not sure
[03:08] <Toma-> ElitePete: silence usually means somethings worked :)
[03:08] <bob2> gnomefreak: it leads to a) people conversing, b) less irc window scrolling
[03:08] <ElitePete> ty then guys :-)
[03:08] <bob2> CaptainMorgan: why would you login as root?
[03:08] <bob2> CaptainMorgan: /msg dpkg ntfs
[03:08] <Neurosis> awe
[03:09] <bob2> CaptainMorgan: let that script do it for you
[03:09] <gnomefreak> oh ok bob2  ty wasnt sure
[03:09] <bob2> CaptainMorgan: it = setup fstab correctly
[03:09] <Toma-> ElitePete: have you stored it with the settings up?
[03:09] <Goldfish> Sometimes I have to go reach boot/shutdown scripts to get on the trail of what files these utilities are using to their job. I never edit them. Too risky.
[03:09] <Goldfish> s/reach/read
[03:09] <ElitePete> volume was never the issue, but yes i stored it in working condition
[03:09] <factotum> why use a scrip when you can learn something?
[03:09] <factotum> *script
[03:09] <fushi> CaptainMorgan: Sudo -i I believe changes you to root
[03:09] <CaptainMorgan> script did nothing
[03:09] <Toma-> ElitePete: give it a reboot and see if the gods are being favorable today
[03:09] <gnomefreak> Neurosis,  in terminal try typing elinks -g
[03:10] <derekS> question. i am running the warty livecd as a rescue disk (only livecd avail)... is there an scp or ftp program on it?
[03:10] <ElitePete> alright toma
[03:10] <ElitePete> be right back
[03:10] <JoeyDay|ubuntu> Hm, ez-ipupdate isn't listed in Synaptic.
[03:10] <Toma-> good luck
[03:10] <Neurosis> ok
[03:10] <bob2> JoeyDay|ubuntu: then enable universe
[03:10] <nalioth> derekS: if there isn't you can install one
[03:10] <Goldfish> !find ipupdate
[03:10] <bob2> derekS: you can install ssh
[03:10] <ubotflu> ez-ipupdate: (client for most dynamic DNS services), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 3.0.11b8-8.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 44 kB, Installed size: 256 kB
[03:10] <bimberi> JoeyDay|ubuntu: enable universe
[03:10] <butcherbird> derekS, not a server app only client i believe
[03:10] <bob2> JoeyDay|ubuntu: wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:10] <factotum> wow, my pentium mmx system still has freebsd with fluxbox wee!!
[03:10] <_jason> Blake_Seven, well: "grep 'Accepted password' /var/log/auth.log" should tell you the last successful logins, make sure they are all you
[03:10] <factotum> surfing the net with dillo..har har
[03:10] <Dempa> is there anyway to get dual screens to work with the live-cd and a nvidia card?
[03:11] <eobanb_> dillo....wow
[03:11] <derekS> bob2: i didn't realize i could install things
[03:11] <Goldfish> Check if your repositories are configured to fetch ez-ipupdate
[03:11] <Neurosis> unkown option -g
[03:11] <derekS> lemme try
[03:11] <gnomefreak> ubotu died again?
[03:11] <bob2> Dempa: same way you'd get it working on an installed system
[03:11] <_jason> Blake_Seven, that's a start as I don't know too much about actually verify your box hasn't been compromised
[03:11] <Goldfish> !botsnack
[03:11] <ubotflu> thanks goldfish :)
[03:11] <TokenBad> so anyone have any ideas?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> Neurosis, than no its text only
[03:11] <eobanb_> ubotu's name is now ubotflu
[03:11] <Dempa> bob2, ok, thanks
[03:11] <Neurosis> there a way i can change it?
[03:11] <kevinix> gosh, gstreamer seems really buggy
[03:11] <Toma-> whats with the ubotflu?
[03:12] <gnomefreak> Neurosis, im not sure
[03:12] <gnomefreak> ubotflu tell Toma- about yourself
[03:12] <bimberi> Toma-: ubotu's normal server is having connectivity issues :)
[03:12] <Toma-> oic
[03:12] <gnomefreak> !ubotflu
[03:12] <ubotflu> gnomefreak: I give up, what is it?
[03:12] <derekS> bob2: apt-get update dies with "E: Method http has died unexpectedly!"
[03:12] <gnomefreak> :(
[03:13] <kevinix> how to people here configure the qt fonts (size, font etc)? with qtconfig?
[03:13] <Toma-> ubotflu: tell me about ubotu
[03:13] <eobanb_> !ubotu
[03:13] <ubotflu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[03:13] <Toma-> rad
[03:13] <eobanb_> i have no idea why it has a new name now
[03:13] <gnomefreak> ahhhh still using ubotus commands
[03:14] <Toma-> bbl. family guy  ^_^
[03:14] <gnomefreak> i dont think it does i think its in here in place of ubotu while ubotu is having issues
[03:14] <CaptainMorgan> tyra girl, you got it going on
[03:14] <ElitePete> Toma-, worked thank you much.
[03:14] <Toma-> ElitePete: all good?
[03:14] <Toma-> awesome :)
[03:14] <TokenBad> ok let me ask full question again...I have a epson stylus 740 printer...I did the gnome new printer went with what it recommended...and tried to print..and it just sits there...any one know whats up?  the printer is good...worked in windows...I just put news cartridges in...both color and black..did the clean nozzles and all that...
[03:14] <Toma-> np
[03:14] <CaptainMorgan> what's the default password for root?
[03:14] <ElitePete> i seem to have another issue now though. not related to alsa.
[03:14] <CaptainMorgan> default
[03:14] <_jason> ubotflu, tell CaptainMorgan about root
[03:15] <ElitePete> when i boot up everything works fine, but i get somethign about sensors and it says "FAILED"
[03:15] <gnomefreak> CaptainMorgan, your user password
[03:15] <eobanb_> there is no root..
[03:15] <CaptainMorgan> there is no root?? huh? weird
[03:15] <gnomefreak> TokenBad,  are you setting it up in cups?
[03:15] <bimberi> yes there is, it just doesn't have a password set
[03:15] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, there is no root *password*, use sudo... ubotflu's link explains it in more detail
[03:15] <bob2> CaptainMorgan: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:16] <eobanb_> the ubuntu installer needs to show a goddamn text file explaining the basics of package management and sudo....it would cut the number of questions here in half.....
[03:16] <gnomefreak> ubotflu tell CaptainMorgan  about sudo
[03:16] <bob2> CaptainMorgan: the ubuntu faq, the wiki and the installer explained it all to you
[03:16] <TokenBad> gnomefreak, I am not sure what you mean by cups...if you mean buy going to admin then printers then new printer...yes
[03:16] <phishead> what player will play quicktime movies?
[03:16] <gnomefreak> ok TokenBad yes thats what i mean when you go through the screens you see  alist of printers is your printer listed in there?
[03:16] <CaptainMorgan> i know about sudo... not all details.. but of its existence... but - when I first installed linux 6months ago, a root user was automatically created with no password..
[03:17] <TokenBad> yes
[03:17] <TokenBad> it auto detected my printer
[03:17] <CaptainMorgan> dudes - watch the fashion show omg
[03:17] <jeroenvrp> hi folks
[03:17] <gnomefreak> CaptainMorgan, ubuntu is the only linux distro that ive tried that uses sudo not su
[03:17] <CaptainMorgan> k
[03:17] <Sionide> heh
[03:17] <Sionide> check this out
[03:17] <Sionide> http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php
[03:17] <ElitePete> how do i make programs start at boot?
[03:17] <Sionide> linux distro chooser
[03:17] <Sionide> i got ubuntu :D
[03:17] <Comrade_Vladimir> how do i put up a buddy icon in gaim?
[03:18] <phishead> also how do i make a mount command run at startup?
[03:18] <CaptainMorgan> gisele bundchen wants me
[03:18] <jeroenvrp> I tweaked my runlevels a bit and now KDM starts ok, but the tty stays at 1 and should switch to 7
[03:18] <frogzoo> ElitePete: take a look at the scripts in /etc/init.d & copy - btw default runlevel is 2
[03:18] <PhilH> Comrade_Vladimir, from the accounts dialogue
[03:18] <eobanb_> !fstab
[03:18] <ubotflu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.
[03:18] <jeroenvrp> how to get my default runlevels back?
[03:18] <frogzoo> CaptainMorgan: well make her wait
[03:18] <ElitePete> frogzoo isn't there just a folder like windows?
[03:18] <CaptainMorgan> lol
[03:18] <ZeroIRC> Ok, one more question people, I can't get php to work.  It keeps asking me if I wanna download the file.  Now I know there is something I need to put in a .conf file, but can you help me
[03:18] <ElitePete> i'm not good with heavy tech stuff.
[03:19] <Comrade_Vladimir> PhilH elaborate
[03:19] <gnomefreak> TokenBad,  did you install the gimp drivers for it? i know my epson uses gimp drivers
[03:19] <Mazin> ok, i got a question - if i get KDE /and/ GNOME, how do I switch between the two or choose which one to start with?
[03:19] <TokenBad> it had stcolor was what it recommended
[03:19] <TokenBad> but I have tried all 3
[03:19] <deemo> Hey everyone, quick question. I recently changed monitors, however, the settings from my old moniter are aved somewhere because i cant brring the resolution up. any way to do this?
[03:19] <n0dl> how would i install themes in xubuntu?
[03:19] <fushi> Mazin: You cant choose int he session manager?
[03:19] <deemo> Mazin: at the login screen, you can choose which session to run
[03:19] <phishead> i tried putting this in my fstab and it didn't work.. "mount -t cifs //servername/share /path -o username=etc,password=etc  .
[03:20] <gnomefreak> TokenBad, than im not really sure why its not working :( sorry
[03:20] <phishead> how do i make that command run every time i start my machien?
[03:20] <DjKritical> Does anyone know how to turn automatic updates on automatic mode? instead of telling it to update every day?
[03:20] <fushi> :x
[03:20] <Mazin> can i have a certain one default at startup?
[03:20] <frogzoo> deemo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:20] <gnomefreak> n0dl, try www.xfce-look.com or org i cant remember
[03:20] <TokenBad> when I changed drivers for the printer do I need to reboot computer gnomefreak?
[03:20] <fushi> Mazin: Yes, once you boot into one it will ask you if you wanna make it the default
[03:21] <gnomefreak> TokenBad, i dont think so but you can try restarting atleast X but reboot just to be sure??
[03:21] <phishead> anyone?
[03:21] <fushi> I dont think you should have to. This isnt windows! :P
[03:22] <TokenBad> ok whats best way to restart X
[03:22] <gnomefreak> fushi, sometimes you need to restart X not reboot tho
[03:22] <fushi> alt+ctrl+backspace
[03:22] <gnomefreak> best or easiest lol
[03:22] <drayen_> i've just upgraded to sun's java, but it seems that ubuntu is still pointing to the java-gcj version, i've tried update-altervative, but the option isnt there... where/how do i make the required changed to use the new version of java?
[03:22] <fushi> xP
[03:22] <smo> Should the installer work in 32Mb ram?  curious if my problem's a lomem issue, or hardware
[03:22] <eobanb_> 32MB??
[03:23] <phishead> how do I make this command run every time linux starts?  mount -t cifs //servername/share /path -o username=etc,password=etc
[03:23] <gnomefreak> drayen_,  update-alternatives :(
[03:23] <uber_spaced> phishead, put it in your rc.local file
[03:23] <eobanb_> smo, i honestly wouldnt recommend using only 32 MB of RAM
[03:23] <phishead> i have no rc.local
[03:23] <JoeyDay|ubuntu> bob2: Okay, I think it installed. Where do I find it in my system, now?
[03:23] <uber_spaced> hmm. one sec...
[03:23] <fushi> init.rd, somewhere in there I believe
[03:23] <eobanb_> phish you could run it on gnome startup
[03:23] <fushi> :P
[03:23] <phishead> eobanb: i tried that..it didn't work
[03:23] <phishead> but if i run it from a command line it works perfectly
[03:23] <smo> eobanb_, neither would I, but it's an old laptop .. it'd likely be cheaper to replace it than find parts
[03:23] <gnomefreak> drayen_, thats the only way im aware of to change default java usage :(
[03:23] <ZeroIRC> Ok, one more question people, I can't get php to work.  It keeps asking me if I wanna download the file.  Now I know there is something I need to put in a .conf file, but can you help me
[03:23] <ryanpg> ugh... ok here's my uber-noob question: where can I find a howto for setting up VLC to play wmv rm and other files?
[03:24] <ryanpg> isn't there a breezy multimedia howto somewhere?
[03:24] <fushi> google?
[03:24] <eobanb_> smo for such old hardware you might consider a stripped-down debian installation with fluxbox or something like that
[03:24] <Comrade_Vladimir> PhilH? u here
[03:24] <_jason> ubotflu, tell ryanpg about multimedia
[03:24] <gnomefreak> !vlc
[03:24] <eobanb_> ryanpg, read the faq
[03:24] <ubotflu> methinks vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[03:24] <eobanb_> read, the, faq
[03:24] <uber_spaced> well that sucks, ubuntu has no rc.local
[03:24] <phishead> i dont see init.rd or rc.local anywhere
[03:24] <uber_spaced> go fig.
[03:25] <fushi> smo: make a server install
[03:25] <deemo> I tried reconfiguring xconf, but it did not help, my resolution is still not able to be changed
[03:25] <gnomefreak> sorry _jason
[03:25] <drayen_> gnomefreak, in that case is there anyway i can add the sun java to update-alternatives?
[03:25] <_jason> gnomefreak, for?
[03:25] <gnomefreak> drayen_,  once installed it should be there
[03:25] <CaptainMorgan> heidi...
[03:25] <gnomefreak> _jason, using bot at same time
[03:25] <Comrade_Vladimir> any one know how to add a buddy icon in gaim
[03:25] <nalioth> drayen_: if you have more than one JVM installed, yes
[03:25] <ryanpg> ahh... thanks _jason that's just what I needed, oh and also thanks for helping rather than spouting nonsense or vague info ;)
[03:26] <gnomefreak> drayen_,  did you install it from java website?
[03:26] <eobanb_> Comrade_Vladimir, ask in #gaim
[03:26] <frogzoo> drayen_: did you install jre according to these instructions? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca
[03:26] <phishead> i mean it can't be too difficult or unheard of to have a network drive always "mapped" each time you start gnome
[03:26] <Comrade_Vladimir> cool! i forgot
[03:26] <_jason> gnomefreak, ah no need to apologize :)
[03:26] <drayen_> nalioth, yes. i just installed java via automatrix
[03:26] <Krhis> Comrade_Vladimir, Tools > Accounts > Modify > Open.
[03:26] <PhilH> Comrade_Vladimir, i send you a pm
[03:26] <CaptainMorgan> what do I do to get the icons after installing from synpatic?
[03:26] <PhilH> Comrade_Vladimir, i sent you a pm
[03:26] <frogzoo> phishead: just put the commands in .gnomerc
[03:26] <drayen_> frogzoo - erm... no :S
[03:26] <Krhis> Beat you too it, PhilH.
[03:26] <Krhis> Sorry ^^
[03:26] <fushi> :x
[03:26] <CaptainMorgan> still can't access the mounted win drive
[03:26] <frogzoo> drayen_: well there ya go :)
[03:27] <nalioth> CaptainMorgan: in a terminal "killall gnome-panel"
[03:27] <gnomefreak> hmm never used that before
[03:27] <Comrade_Vladimir> i see no pm
[03:27] <PhilH> Khris, i sent him one ages ago, he didn't seem to notice
[03:27] <phishead> frogzoo: where's that file located?
[03:27] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrrr :(
[03:27] <Krhis> Yes, I saw that he also asked that question some time ago... but I figured some one already took care of it.
[03:28] <PhilH> Khris, well, i tried ;)
[03:28] <CaptainMorgan> nalioth.. you - you're good... :) ( Deniro ) thanks
[03:28] <Krhis> So I replied the second time.
[03:28] <Krhis> ^^ It's cool.
[03:28] <drayen_> thanks nalioth... going to take a look at that now
[03:28] <ZeroIRC> Is anyone able to help me?
[03:28] <Comrade_Vladimir> okok i see it
[03:28] <fushi> Question?
[03:28] <PhilH> ok, so NeroLinux can handle my DVD burner, but none of the FOSS tools can, joy
[03:28] <nalioth> ZeroIRC: ask your question again, please
[03:29] <Krhis> He's asking about PHP.
[03:29] <frogzoo> phishead: ~/.gnomerc
[03:29] <deemo> Hey everyone, quick question. I recently changed monitors, however, the settings from my old moniter are aved somewhere because i cant brring the resolution up. any way to do this? I tried doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it did no good
[03:29] <ZeroIRC> Ok, one more question people, I can't get php to work.  It keeps asking me if I wanna download the file.  Now I know there is something I need to put in a .conf file, but can you help me
[03:29] <fushi> Hey, what kind of burner in linux can burn iso images for me?  Can I do it in gnomebaker?
[03:29] <aTypical> ZeroIRC, I think you need to tell apache you're using php.  I think it's in the httpd.conf file.
[03:29] <nalioth> deemo: do that again, but use the space bar to deselect the resolutions you "don't" want
[03:29] <Krhis> I don't have it up and configured at the moment, but did you apt-get php4 or 5?
[03:29] <phishead> huh?
[03:30] <PhilH> fushi, should be able to
[03:30] <nalioth> fushi: any of them can burn iso images
[03:30] <bimberi> fushi: Nautilus (the file manager) can.  Right-Click, select Write to CD/DVD
[03:30] <ZeroIRC> I have everything installed
[03:30] <ZeroIRC> brb
[03:30] <Krhis> Try to restart Apache?
[03:30] <fushi> Thanks
[03:30] <earldude1> !botsnack
[03:30] <ubotflu> thanks earldude1 :)
[03:30] <eobanb_> heh.
[03:30] <earldude1> np
[03:31] <phishead> i still see no .gnomerc
[03:31] <smo> fushi, server doesn't seem to work either.  the installer simply doesn't get that far
[03:31] <deemo> nalioth: should i log off and log back on for it to take effect?
[03:31] <ZeroIRC> back
[03:32] <pldn> can anyone think of why my gtk themes arent being honored by an app being run from within a 32bit chroot?
[03:32] <_jason> phishead, how are you looking for it?
[03:32] <Krhis> How about it, ZeroIRC?
[03:33] <bulio> if I apt-get upgrade to breezy, will I get any problems?
[03:33] <Krhis> Try to restart Apache?
[03:33] <phishead> search
[03:33] <eobanb_> phishead, files that start with a . are invisible... ls -a
[03:33] <phishead> yea but what dir is that one in
[03:33] <phishead> i know ls -a
[03:33] <Comrade_Vladimir> cbhg
[03:33] <_jason> PhilH, your home directory, ~ is an alias for it
[03:33] <Comrade_Vladimir> hmm
[03:33] <phishead> its not there
[03:33] <gnomefreak> bulio,  we cant answer that but i can tell you breezy is stable
[03:33] <ZeroIRC> Krhis, Yea
[03:33] <phishead> im in my home dir..there is no .gnomerc
[03:33] <Krhis> Still no good?
[03:33] <ZeroIRC> nope
[03:33] <ElitePete> greezy isthe shit.
[03:34] <ElitePete> breezy*
[03:34] <_jason> phishead, not for me either
[03:34] <phishead> do i just create it?
[03:34] <gnomefreak> greezy is pretty good but i like breezy better :)
[03:34] <bulio> when I get home
[03:34] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:34] <Krhis> Odd, php4 or 5?
[03:34] <bulio> ill do the up
[03:34] <ElitePete> gnomefreak, :-)
[03:34] <ZeroIRC> 4
[03:34] <gnomefreak> bulio,  can i make a suggestion?
[03:34] <ZeroIRC> I havn't added anything in the .conf file
[03:34] <Krhis> I've got 5 up and running here. No problems.
[03:35] <ZeroIRC> I'll try 5
[03:35] <Krhis> Ok, tell me if it works.
[03:35] <marcin> hi guys - could someone tell me what is the status of dapper?
[03:35] <eobanb_> !dapper
[03:35] <ubotflu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[03:35] <tritium> marcin, in development
[03:35] <aTypical> marcels, I'm installing it now and so far no trouble at all.
[03:35] <gnomefreak> bulio, give or take a few minutes the download of the breezy iso is about the same as the upgrade i would burn the iso so you have it there for backup
[03:35] <marcin> tritium: I know
[03:36] <ZeroIRC> Krhis, Nope
[03:36] <frogzoo> phishead: there isn't one be default - youl need to make one - use a script from /etc/init.d as a template
[03:36] <marcin> tritium: but I would like to know if it's installable
[03:36] <Krhis> Let me check something... brb.
[03:36] <phishead> ok
[03:36] <ZeroIRC> ok
[03:36] <eobanb_> marcin, it's installable, and mostly usable, but i wouldnt recommend it at all for new users nor production use
[03:36] <marcin> tritium: and for example no seriously broken packages such as xorg
[03:36] <phishead> ill try it....
[03:36] <phishead> thanks
[03:36] <phishead> also...I'd like to play quicktime movie files...any apps that will do this?
[03:36] <eobanb_> !restricted
[03:36] <ubotflu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:37] <tritium> marcin, even if that's currently the case, there's no guarantee that packages won't break in the future, during development
[03:37] <_jason> phishead, mplayer
[03:37] <phishead> isn't that text only?
[03:37] <phishead> i just spent 30 min installing it and there doesn't seem to be a gui
[03:37] <_jason> phishead, gmplayer then
[03:37] <earldude1> is there a better irc client than mirc?  I can't cut and paste from inside the IRC channels when they are active and I'd like to be able to do that, etc.
[03:37] <phishead> lol
[03:37] <phishead> ok
[03:37] <_jason> ubotflu, tell phishead about mplayer
[03:37] <eobanb_> mirc??
[03:37] <fushi> he has the flu?! :P
[03:37] <marcin> earldude1: there is erc or xchat
[03:37] <gnomefreak> x-chat, bitchx, there are a bunch of them
[03:37] <frogzoo> earldude1: gaim
[03:38] <gnomefreak> mirc isnt in ubuntu sources :(
[03:38] <fushi> irssi :)
[03:38] <eobanb_> earldude1, a free build of xchat for win32 is available from http://www.silverex.org/download/
[03:38] <earldude1> what's the best?  or am I going to get a hundred answers for that?
[03:38] <eobanb_> mirc is *proprietary software*
[03:38] <amiko> install firefox?
[03:38] <CaptainMorgan> how do i make /media/win accessible ?
[03:38] <CaptainMorgan> permission denied
[03:38] <amiko> help install firefox?
[03:38] <earldude1> does firefox include a IRC client????!!
[03:38] <earldude1> oh
[03:38] <gnomefreak> CaptainMorgan, use sudo before the command
[03:38] <frogzoo> !tell CaptainMorgan about ntfs
[03:38] <eobanb_> earldude1, is this for windows or ubuntu
[03:38] <gnomefreak> earldude1, chatzilla
[03:39] <amiko> ubuntu
[03:39] <earldude1> unfortunately, my laptop has windows eobanb_
[03:39] <eobanb_> i'd say xchat is the best
[03:39] <eobanb_> http://www.silverex.org/download/
[03:39] <gnomefreak> amiko,  firefox is installed by default
[03:39] <earldude1> ok cool sir
[03:39] <earldude1> ty
[03:39] <earldude1> or maam
[03:39] <frogzoo> eobanb_: upgrade to gaim
[03:39] <earldude1> whichever
[03:39] <eobanb_> frogzoo, what?
[03:39] <earldude1> is gaim better than xchat?
[03:40] <gnomefreak> chatzilla works with firefox on either windows or linux
[03:40] <amiko> I'm delete
[03:40] <eobanb_> personally i dont like gaim for IRC.
[03:40] <frogzoo> earldude1: gaim > xchat
[03:40] <ZeroIRC> gaim is pretty good, but it is not a good IRC client
[03:40] <eobanb_> right.
[03:40] <fushi> irssi pwns xP
[03:40] <gnomefreak> amiko, use synaptic and install it again
[03:40] <earldude1> is chatzilla better than xchat  ....consensus?
[03:40] <eobanb_> earldude1, you're not going to get a definitive answer here, go try them out yourself
[03:40] <gnomefreak> earldude1,  not for me but depends what you like
[03:41] <earldude1> ok fair enough
[03:41] <eobanb_> not to mention this is a windows question and this is a linux channel
[03:41] <fushi> Yeah thats true eobanb :)
[03:41] <amiko> i'm brasilian
[03:41] <earldude1> right. sorry
[03:41] <_jason> !br
[03:41] <ubotflu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[03:41] <CaptainMorgan> sudo: cd: command not found
[03:42] <earldude1> i've gotta change my handle.  it's freakin lame
[03:42] <_jason> uh oh, is ubotu confused about his/her gender?
[03:42] <CaptainMorgan> how is cd not found ?
[03:42] <v00d00> Q: After I finish installing Ubuntu, I assume when it goes into desktop, it looks like this: http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2654/linux9zl.jpg  Any ideas how to fix, running AMD64+6600GT video(AGP)
[03:42] <_jason> gnomefreak, pt
[03:42] <gnomefreak> lol oops
[03:43] <frogzoo> v00d00: driver problem - or xorg.conf problem
[03:43] <gnomefreak> v00d00,  can you get to a terminal?
[03:43] <dhofstra> wow, installed ubuntu on a k6-2 450 sis chipset and it was slow as hell; just put it on a PII300, and it is very much faster.  problem with the sis chipset and 2.6 kernel? or do you think I had something configured wrong...
[03:43] <gnomefreak> ty _jason
[03:43] <v00d00> Sorry, total noob.. but yes I beleive I can get into a terminal (Hitting ALT+CTRL+BACKSPACE right?)
[03:43] <frogzoo> !tell v00d00 about reconfigure-x
[03:44] <amiko> obrigado pela dica. desculpe-me sou novssimo no ubuntu
[03:44] <gnomefreak> noooooooooo
[03:44] <cafuego> dhofstra: No, SiS is just crap.
[03:44] <gnomefreak> ctrl+F2
[03:44] <dhofstra> cool, thought so , thanks cafuego
[03:44] <moot_> hello peeps
[03:44] <gnomefreak> wb TokenBad
[03:44] <v00d00> alright well I think I can get into terminal, but then what?
[03:44] <frogzoo> !tell amiko about es
[03:44] <TokenBad> well changing drivers didn't fix it
[03:44] <moot_> i was wondering if proftpd's default install would reject anything but local connections?
[03:45] <TokenBad> it goes through like its printing the test page..but nothing is on the paper
[03:45] <frogzoo> v00d00: then run the command ubotflu sent you
[03:45] <gnomefreak> v00d00,  once in terminal type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:45] <_jason> frogzoo, what's up with sending all the portuguese speakers to es, weren't you doing that yesterday too :P
[03:45] <v00d00> sweet, that's all?
[03:45] <frogzoo> _jason: there a portuguses chan?
[03:45] <tritium> !pt
[03:45] <ubotflu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[03:45] <gnomefreak> v00d00,  well thats how you get in to configure it you still have to configure it
[03:45] <_jason> frogzoo, two, pt and br
[03:46] <frogzoo> _jason: ah, well its all greek to me anyhow
[03:46] <butcherbird> moot_, only ever used vsftpd or pureftpd but default install will accept any connection from that port are u running a firewall?
[03:46] <merly> can anyone point me to a documentation page about uninstalling ubuntu and restoring MBR without win setup disks?
[03:46] <_jason> frogzoo, no worries, jsut thought you weren't aware of the portuguese ones
[03:46] <moot_> butcherbird: nope... turned it off
[03:47] <moot_> i can log in fine from localhost, but i can't even get a prompt from remote boxes
[03:47] <v00d00> gnomefreak: any tip where to go find out what to configure it to?
[03:47] <butcherbird> ftp <IP_ADDRESS> doesnt work?
[03:47] <butcherbird> ah
[03:47] <moot_> ^
[03:47] <gnomefreak> v00d00,  that depends on your hardware
[03:47] <frogzoo> moot_: check sshd is running & connect via that
[03:47] <butcherbird> on same router?
[03:47] <v00d00> gnomefreak: amd64 and nvidia6600GT(AGP) video
[03:47] <moot`> frogzoo: sshd is fine... i'm on it right now
[03:48] <gnomefreak> !nvidia
[03:48] <ubotflu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[03:48] <sudhir> finally I established bluetooth connection with nokia 6600
[03:48] <cafuego> v00d00: Are you using nvidias closed source driver?
[03:48] <gnomefreak> v00d00,  there
[03:48] <TokenBad> gnomefreak, you ever hear of that?
[03:48] <sudhir> plz help me in daling GPRS
[03:48] <_jason> is it possible for me to login to gdm and fluxbox at the same time?  if so, how would I proceed?
[03:48] <gnomefreak> TokenBad,  no i havent not on a local printer
[03:48] <v00d00> cafuego: now idea what I'm using, whatever comes with the install (??)
[03:48] <v00d00> gnome: thanks!
[03:49] <cafuego> v00d00: the free one then. Switch to the one outlined in the link gnomefreak gave you.
[03:49] <sudhir> how do i install modem for 6600
[03:49] <v00d00> awesome! I'll go try that.. thanks guys!
[03:49] <frogzoo> lol
[03:49] <sudhir> hehe
[03:50] <gimmulf> Is there any good software that shows the current dollar currency in realtime?
[03:50] <siriusnova> i cant believe they are remaking Miami Vice :/
[03:50] <Krhis> nice quite ^^
[03:50] <merly> if i use cfdisk to delete the ubuntu partitions, and resize the win partition to fill up the whole hd, and mark the win partition as "boot" - will that get the job done? or will i have grub / boot / mbr problems?
[03:51] <cafuego> merly: You'll want to wipe grub too, yes.
[03:51] <butcherbird> merly, u will need to boot to win partition using grub then type fixmbr i believe from windows cmd shell
[03:51] <cafuego> merly: Got a windows boot floppy handy?
[03:51] <merly> cafu- i don't but i can get one. :)
[03:52] <cafuego> merly: With the win floppy, simply run 'fdisk /mbr' after booting from it, that kills grub.
[03:53] <cafuego> ANy reason you're not expanding Linux and wiping Windows intead?
[03:54] <merly> cafu - pinnacle studio plus... thinking i will need the full hd for video....
[03:54] <cafuego> yeah, that eats hd space somewhat nastily
[03:54] <merly> cafu - i've heard of open source video software but i have trouble believing they are equal. :v\
[03:55] <merly> cafu - my FIL gave me the cd for studio and then the upgrade to "plus" for free.
[03:55] <Razor-X> merly: they aren't, Partition Magic is leagues better than its equivalents, IMO
[03:55] <cafuego> merly: They're at least as good as pinnacle.
[03:55] <Razor-X> merly: of course, in most instances, OSS is as good, if not better than their closed counterparts
[03:56] <merly> cafu, razor: mebbe i'll give the OSS video stuff a look.
[03:56] <Razor-X> merly: also, do you know of tab-complete?
[03:56] <cafuego> merly: Give it a try... you cna always wipe if it doesn't suit.
[03:56] <cafuego> merly: 'cinelerra' and 'kino'.
[03:56] <merly> cafu - you've never used either?
[03:56] <sudhir> how do I connect GPRS
[03:57] <cafuego> merly: I used kino to export DV to ogg/theora. it's a tad crashy, though.
[03:57] <sudhir> installing new modem ?
[03:57] <cafuego> Well, on amd64 anyway.
[03:57] <merly> cafu i don't know what ogg / theora is...
[03:58] <merly> cafu - i'm also not so into "a tad crashy" :v)
[03:58] <cafuego> merly: a free video codec
[03:58] <merly> cafu - ! got it. that's cool, I'm interested in those. . .
[03:58] <cafuego> merly: I don't know how well they run on i386; amd64 support for video has always been shitty.
[03:58] <alekz> hi anyone has a video ipod running on ubuntu ?
[03:58] <merly> <--- 64 bit ubuntu
[03:59] <chris86wm> does the 64 bit ubuntu run well?
[03:59] <jonmasters> I've got an ipod running ipodlinux, but it's not a video.
[03:59] <cafuego> merly: Ubuntu amd64 and video are not a great combination.
[03:59] <cafuego> chris86wm: As long as you don't want video, flash or java.
[03:59] <merly> cafu - see, there you go, i'm wiping anyway...
[03:59] <brownie17> i keep getting told i need flash 8, how can i get this?
[03:59] <chris86wm> cafuego, lol
[04:00] <merly> cafu - i didn't make a "home" partition. so everything would go, anyway.
[04:00] <chris86wm> are there any benefits of running the 64bit edition?
[04:01] <cafuego> chris86wm: For a developer or database system, probably. For and end user, no.
[04:01] <chris86wm> ah
[04:01] <sudhir> plzzzzzzz
[04:01] <merly> cafu - plus, you know, i go the 1280 x 800 display working (with kind help from this room), and I eventually got the rt2x00 wireless to work (thanks to doc page, and building the CVS tarball from serial monkey)...
[04:01] <sudhir> i need help abt GPRS
[04:01] <cafuego> merly: d'oh! I did at least do one of those, so i was only down for half an hour whilst reinstalling.
[04:02] <sudhir> i got help on ubuntu.org but its not in english , so idnt understand
[04:02] <TokenBad> I think the printer don't work right or something
[04:02] <merly> cafu - procrastinating from studying for finals, i installed / wiped about 6-7 different distros last week.
[04:02] <TokenBad> cause it saying the printer is busy now and its not
[04:02] <moot`> ok, i have proftpd running in debug level 9 and i can see messages when I log in from localhost. However, no messages are generated by clients from remote hosts. The firewall is off and other services are receiving traffic normally... where else can i look?
[04:05] <rosen> anyone here ? ... and could post how the nessus config should look ?
[04:05] <brownie17> cafuego, is it possible to get flash player 8 for linux yet?
[04:05] <ZeroIRC> merly, I am procrastinating finals studing also
[04:06] <chungaroo> i'm having troubling listening to music on purevolume.com through the flash interface
[04:06] <cafuego> brownie17: I doubt it. Macromedia/Adobe suck.
[04:06] <rosen> noone have a Nessus.desktop I can have a look at ? ... I'm unsure as to how to write it correctly
[04:06] <brownie17> cafuego, agreed. i need it to watch animations on NG these days
[04:06] <CaptainMorgan> h
[04:07] <CaptainMorgan> how do I access /media/win ?
[04:07] <CaptainMorgan> says Im not the owner.. bull
[04:07] <ZeroIRC> Hey, anyone in here know who to change the root pass for MySQL?
[04:07] <brownie17> CaptainMorgan, root wil be
[04:07] <cafuego> ZeroIRC: via 'mysqladmin'
[04:07] <ZeroIRC> cafuego, Thanks
[04:07] <CaptainMorgan> sudo cd /win returns with sudo: cd: command not found
[04:08] <dabaR_> CaptainMorgan: change the /etc/fstab entry for that partition. The part about defaults, change to defaults,umask=0222 and then umount that partition, then remount it.
[04:08] <dabaR_> cafuego: flu?
[04:09] <CaptainMorgan> there's two defaults
[04:09] <CaptainMorgan> defaults and defaults, errors
[04:10] <CaptainMorgan> errors=remount
[04:10] <tritium> !enter
[04:10] <ubotflu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[04:10] <kkathman> ZeroIRC:  as root not usuall in msqyladmin...in mysql.. SET PASSWORD FOR 'name@host' = PASSWORD('newpass');
[04:10] <ZeroIRC> I got it, thanks though
[04:10] <CaptainMorgan> enter?
[04:10] <CaptainMorgan> what?
[04:11] <CaptainMorgan> fstab is read only...
[04:11] <CaptainMorgan> how to change ?
[04:11] <hybrid> is chntpw on the Ubuntu LiveCD?
[04:11] <dabaR_> CaptainMorgan: you use "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[04:11] <dabaR_> CaptainMorgan: if unsure what to chjange, post the whole file to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:12] <odat> did anyone see the linus torvald comments today about gnome?
[04:12] <VictorI> quick question, I only scanned the docs, does ubuntu have a unstable branch for the deb repository?
[04:12] <CaptainMorgan> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[04:12] <CaptainMorgan> #
[04:12] <CaptainMorgan> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[04:12] <CaptainMorgan> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[04:12] <CaptainMorgan> /dev/sda2       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[04:12] <CaptainMorgan> /dev/sda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[04:12] <dabaR_> wtheck is up with the URl change anyhow...
[04:12] <CaptainMorgan> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
[04:12] <eobanb> dont flood!
[04:12] <CaptainMorgan> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[04:12] <CaptainMorgan> oh.. oops
[04:12] <dabaR_> ya, no, not here.
[04:12] <CaptainMorgan> sorry
[04:12] <eobanb> !paste
[04:12] <ubotflu> rumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[04:12] <dabaR_> CaptainMorgan: please post there again, to that site, I can not read here well.
[04:12] <VictorI> sorry to ask this again, but it got killed by the flooder, does ubuntu have a unstable branch ?
[04:12] <kkathman> uh oh
[04:12] <JoeyDay|ubuntu> How can I set a process to run on startup in Ubuntu?
[04:12] <dooglus> odat: where are they?
[04:12] <kkathman> CaptainMorgan knows better :)
[04:13] <kkathman> hehe
[04:13] <tritium> CaptainMorgan, walk the plank, matey
[04:13] <dabaR_> CaptainMorgan: Ill still correct your file on pastebin if you post.
[04:14] <dooglus> VictorI: if it does, it's called "grumpy"
[04:14] <VictorI> thank you, ill look for that keyword in the wiki
[04:14] <jdmpike_> hello all
[04:14] <dooglus> VictorI: unless you count "dapper", but that's just the next release.  It's currently unstable, but will become stable with time.
[04:14] <dabaR_> VictorI: there is the new version that is in development, and that one is unstable. dapper drake.
[04:14] <VictorI> I just want -current. Like we have with any BSD flavor.
[04:14] <odat> dooglus, its all over the linux news sites
[04:15] <dooglus> VictorI: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrumpyGroundhog
[04:15] <dooglus> odat: URL?
[04:15] <dabaR_> CaptainMorgan: check out posts on pastebin.
[04:15] <warren_> eobanb:
[04:15] <warren_> i burnt the disc
[04:16] <dabaR_> CaptainMorgan: /j #dabar
[04:16] <odat> dooglus, do a search for linux news   its on linux today website
[04:16] <warren_> but how do i boot it
[04:16] <JoeyDay|ubuntu> I just found a "Startup Programs" in session preferences.
[04:16] <JoeyDay|ubuntu> But that will only run when I actually log in as me, right?
[04:16] <SilentOutcast> hi has anyone ordered ubuntu in upstate newyork
[04:16] <AIV> using Synaptic, I installed Apache, how do I find out where it is located?
[04:17] <moot`> man
[04:17] <warren_> how do iset the mac to boot from my ubuntu disk
[04:17] <tritium> odat, it's really of no consequence
[04:17] <moot`> this is making me angry
[04:17] <tritium> warren_, hold down "c" while booting
[04:17] <moot`> stupid ftp
[04:17] <warren_> oh ok
[04:17] <warren_> any thing else /
[04:18] <odat> tritium, I just think its really crass of him    use what i use or your dumb
[04:18] <tritium> warren_, tap your heels, and repeat "there's no place like home"
[04:18] <dabaR_> CaptainMorgan: there is another post there now.
[04:18] <dooglus> did the grumpy groundhog ever get started?  or was the idea scrapped in the end?
[04:18] <tritium> odat, worry not, my friend
[04:18] <nalioth> CaptainMorgan: read the /topic please
[04:19] <dabaR_> who knows how to set up apache to work with svn?
[04:19] <odat> tritium, just don't want to see users, developers, or distrubutions to drop gnome
[04:19] <tritium> don't worry about that
[04:19] <CaptainMorgan> yea
[04:19] <cafuego> dabaR: The apache.org docs (use apache2!)
[04:20] <dabaR_> no, I wont.
[04:20] <Grimlord> anyone know if I can get better than 450 fps on an ATI Mobility 9600?
[04:20] <CaptainMorgan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5739
[04:20] <cafuego> Well, with apache 1.3 it's a pain. Apache2 has it built-in.
[04:20] <cafuego> ooh!
[04:21] <dabaR_> CaptainMorgan: I wanted the output of running "mount" in a terminal.
[04:21] <moot`> holy sheet!!!!
[04:21] <moot`> muder facker
[04:21] <moot`> !!!
[04:21] <ubotflu> [!]  what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[04:22] <cafuego> Come to daddy!
[04:22] <nalioth> moot`: those exclamations are not helping your situation
[04:22] <moot`> system is rejecting incoming packets on port 21
[04:22] <moot`> no firewall is on
[04:22] <moot`> nor iptables
[04:22] <Toma-> moot`: sure its not your ISP?
[04:22] <CaptainMorgan> dabar that was the output of a terminal
[04:22] <cafuego> !test
[04:22] <moot`> changed proftpd to use port 2600 and it worked immediately
[04:22] <ubotu> Stop poking me!
[04:22] <moot`> Toma-: this is all on the local network
[04:22] <gahan> whats dapper?
[04:22] <Toma-> moot`: ok
[04:22] <cafuego> !dapper
[04:22] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[04:23] <n0dl> can you send me the link on how to install themes in xubuntu?
[04:23] <CaptainMorgan> gahan you play chess ?
[04:23] <Toma-> n0dl: download, copy the theme folder to ~/.themes
[04:24] <n0dl> Toma- i did
[04:24] <gahan> rhx
[04:24] <gahan> CaptainMorgan: nope
[04:24] <sklav> hey guys im back
[04:25] <sklav> thank you bob2
[04:25] <ubuntu_> hei jatkat nyt saunomaan.
[04:25] <ubuntu_> mina tarjoon.
[04:25] <sklav> i was able to migrate the drive to my other dedicated system
[04:25] <ubuntu_> oluttakin on.
[04:25] <sklav> what up Seveas
[04:26] <sklav> so on a side note who read the linus torvalds opinion of gnome?
[04:26] <Milenko_The_Snow> not i
[04:26] <Teltariat> Hello folks
[04:26] <Milenko_The_Snow> link?
[04:26] <Kickersny> I just installed ubuntu and I'm running Sudo for the first time and it asks me for root password
[04:26] <Kickersny> yet it never asked for it during install...
[04:26] <sklav> its on linuxtoday
[04:26] <Teltariat> 'sudo passwd'
[04:26] <oblib> I am working off a server install, and I would like to know how to get all the acpi stuff that comes in a typical install.
[04:26] <nalioth> Kickersny: it's not asking for a root pwd, use your user pwd
[04:26] <sklav> Kickersny, use ur usernames password
[04:26] <Milenko_The_Snow> type your main password
[04:27] <Kickersny> awesome, thanks
[04:27] <nalioth> Teltariat: please dont recommend that
[04:27] <Teltariat> 'sudo passwd' sets root passwd
[04:27] <Teltariat> nalioth: works for me :D
[04:27] <Grimlord> Kick: Type your password not root
[04:27] <Milenko_The_Snow> sklav: link pls
[04:27] <Milenko_The_Snow> :)
[04:27] <nalioth> Teltariat: this is ubuntu, not debian or redhat. we dont have a root account enabled for a reason
[04:27] <sklav> its on linux today
[04:27] <moot`> ah
[04:27] <tritium> Kickersny, I recommend you try to learn to use sudo instead
[04:27] <moot`> ftp is so much faster than samba
[04:27] <sklav> www.linuxtoday.com
[04:27] <moot`> joy
[04:27] <Teltariat> nalioth: I apologize.
[04:28] <Milenko_The_Snow> moot`: lies.
[04:28] <sklav> sudo is sweet now that i got used to it
[04:28] <Milenko_The_Snow> lol
[04:28] <moot`> Milenko_The_Snow: :(
[04:28] <sudhir> where will I get GTK2::TrayIcon ?
[04:28] <JoeyDay|ubuntu> How do I use Vino in Ubuntu?
[04:28] <oblib> I like 'sudo bash' myself
[04:28] <Milenko_The_Snow> aaw
[04:28] <dabaR_> ok, that was fun.
[04:28] <Milenko_The_Snow> my nick isnt complete here
[04:28] <Milenko_The_Snow> :(
[04:28] <Teltariat> Can one use any Debian/apt repository for Ubuntu, or no?
[04:28] <Milenko_The_Snow> Milenko_The_Snowman
[04:28] <Milenko_The_Snow> lol
[04:29] <CaptainMorgan> with a folder named -Captain how do you access it ? i tried "-Captain" but it  didn't work
[04:29] <sklav> is it Milenko_The_Snowball?
[04:29] <Teltariat> I'd like to install things like mplayer, naim, and such
[04:29] <dabaR_> it is too long as it is...
[04:29] <Milenko_The_Snow> Snowman
[04:29] <Milenko_The_Snow> lol
[04:29] <Teltariat> (Which aren't available in the official repos)
[04:29] <Milenko_The_Snow> christmas nick
[04:29] <Grimlord> anyone got any tricks or links for getting more than 450 fps out of a ati 9600 Mobility?
[04:29] <sklav> i see
[04:29] <moot`> Teltariat: read the FAQs
[04:29] <Milenko_The_Snow> its usually RudolphRedp****r but thats not nice for freenode
[04:29] <Milenko_The_Snow> :P
[04:29] <bshumate> CaptainMorgan: try "-Captian" or \-Captian, or something of that nature...
[04:29] <moot`> adding repositories is one of the first things discussed
[04:29] <oblib> Grimlord I thougth people could only discern like 30 fps
[04:29] <tritium> Grimlord, did you follow the ati wiki?
[04:29] <sklav> Grimlord, on nvidia im getting some pretty sweet numbers like 1900fps
[04:30] <sklav> have you read the howto ?
[04:30] <tritium> !tell Grimlord about ati
[04:30] <sklav> i followed it and it works pretty sweet now
[04:30] <CaptainMorgan> bshumate nope
[04:30] <sklav> i dont see what all the bad press is for gnome as of late
[04:30] <oblib> I am working off a server install, and I would like to know how to get all the acpi stuff that comes in a typical install (the scripts in /etc/acpi).
[04:30] <sklav> its has gotten pretty sweet
[04:30] <brownie17> who knows how to remove operator logos from their nokia phones?
[04:31] <sklav> brownie17, yyou need to flash it
[04:31] <nalioth> brownie17: i think you are really really offtopic here
[04:31] <Kickersny> brownie17, Dremel tool :)
[04:32] <Grimlord> Trit: Yes, I used mlomker's tut and it installed great...just seeing realy low rates
[04:32] <sklav> unless there is ubuntu on the phone ;)
[04:32] <sklav> Grimlord, have you rebooted?
[04:32] <tritium> Grimlord, not sure what you're referring to.  I suggest you follow the wiki page I had ubotu send you, and please use ubuntu packages
[04:32] <sklav> after i rebooted i got better fps
[04:32] <AIV> I typed the following at gnome terminal "user@Ubuntu-Home:~$ sudo apt-get install php4
[04:32] <AIV> ", and got the following "Reading package lists... Done
[04:32] <AIV> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:32] <AIV> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:32] <AIV> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:32] <Grimlord> will do, thank you
[04:32] <AIV> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:33] <bshumate> CaptainMorgan:  get into the parent dir, then :  cd ./-Captain
[04:33] <JaZy84> hey guys i have a question. is there a way to convert ntfs -> any other native linux fs with out being distructive. have 2 drives both at 200 gbs both full and am getteing tired of booting into windows to move files around
[04:34] <nalioth> JaZy84: only partition magic  can do that, but back up anyway
[04:34] <nalioth> AIV: please read the /topic and don't paste in here
[04:34] <AIV> I got kicked for pasting?
[04:34] <AIV> ok, I didnt know
[04:34] <JaZy84> what's the likely hood of PM screwing if up?
[04:34] <JaZy84> i don't have a medium to back up to :/
[04:34] <nalioth> JaZy84: any time you mess with partitions, you run risks
[04:35] <sklav> i just realized my desktop icons are missing
[04:35] <moot`> JaZy84: I haven't had a problem with it yet
[04:35] <moot`> but i only use ntfsresize now
[04:35] <JaZy84> yeah, i suppose i'll give it a show
[04:35] <JaZy84> shot*
[04:35] <moot`> just send all your important stuff to gmail
[04:36] <JaZy84> what linuxfs did you convert too. is one better (less likely to mess up) then another
[04:36] <sklav> that is a great idea moot`
[04:36] <Kickersny> how is it that ubuntu can fit all this on one CD whereas SuSE, for example, uses 5?
[04:36] <Kickersny> it boggles my mind :)
[04:36] <sudhir> where will I get GTK2::TrayIcon ?
[04:36] <nalioth> JaZy84: use ext3
[04:36] <sklav> Kickersny, ubuntu is basic the 1st cd
[04:36] <nalioth> sudhir: cpan.org most likely
[04:36] <JaZy84> any version of PM?
[04:36] <oblib> moot`That way Google can read all your stuff too! :)
[04:36] <Kickersny> sklav, which is all I want on my craptop :)
[04:36] <nalioth> JaZy84: i'd think the newer the better
[04:37] <sklav> ah k
[04:37] <sudhir> thanks let me check
[04:37] <sklav> i was thinking you were mistified with the 1 / 5 ratio
[04:37] <sklav> hehe
[04:37] <JoeyDay|ubuntu> Wow. I'm SSH'd in.
[04:37] <JaZy84> alright thanks for the help guys
[04:37] <sudhir> nalioth : got it thanks
[04:37] <sklav> how can one build ubuntu from scratch?
[04:38] <taxman> dumb q: Is there a verbose boot option like FreeBSD to see the hardware scanning?
[04:38] <benplaut> ubotu, glad you're feeling better!
[04:38] <ubotu> benplaut: I give up, what is it?
[04:38] <benplaut> !botsnack
[04:38] <ubotu> :)
[04:38] <sklav> for example specific installs?
[04:38] <duncan_cragg> hello - is anyone here?
[04:38] <Kickersny> now if only I could get wifi working...
[04:38] <Kickersny> nope
[04:38] <sklav> im looking to create a cdrom like i did for centos
[04:38] <sklav> but ubuntu instead
[04:38] <cafuego> sklav: You can do the 'server' install and then add packages as needed.
[04:39] <sklav> i know but where is the fun ;)
[04:39] <cafuego> the fun is in spending the saved time in teh pub
[04:39] <nalioth> sklav: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallCDCustomizationHowTo
[04:39] <sklav> cafuego, my issue is im not familiar with deb packaging
[04:40] <sklav> im reading on the motu site to get a clue
[04:40] <dabaR_> clues are good to have
[04:40] <JaZy84> Kickersny, which wifi card
[04:40] <taxman> what would I look for to track down why my wireless card is not recognized anymore. It is again if I boot from the livecd
[04:40] <JaZy84> i've had good luck with wifi working out of box
[04:41] <Kickersny> JaZy84, Lucent Orinoco WaveLAN
[04:41] <duncan_cragg> wifi worked for me on my Thinkpad R50e - out of the box
[04:41] <truz24> Are there any tools in ubuntu that will convert a pdf to bmp?
[04:41] <hyphenated> truz24: imagemagick probly
[04:41] <Kickersny> duncan_cragg, this is a laptop which is...getting up there in years :)
[04:41] <dderr_> i started installing gimp, then changed my mind, now gimp is unselected, yet I screwed something up and still have about 400 packages waiting to be installed by dselect, how can i fix this
[04:41] <duncan_cragg> I only paid 440 for it - $700 or so
[04:42] <sklav> i want a laptop
[04:42] <bob2> dderr_: don't use dselect
[04:42] <sklav> looking for one that works well in linux
[04:42] <sklav> aka fully supported
[04:42] <bob2> dderr_: also, #ubuntu is not a Debian support channel
[04:42] <Kickersny> duncan_cragg, I got mine free because it's fux0red
[04:42] <bshumate> sklav: get a thinkpad man
[04:42] <ubuntu_> Just want to say AMAZING work on the Ubuntu Live CD.  A friend at work gave it to me and I stuck it in my 2 yr old centrino laptop and it booted up with wireless working perfectly and things looking great.
[04:42] <sethk> sklav, I've had good results recently with a thinkpad, as duncan_cragg said, also with one from fujitsu and one from dell.  I think the IBM is the best of the three.
[04:43] <sklav> sethk cool i will take your advice
[04:43] <sklav> i was hoping hp would work
[04:43] <sethk> sklav, of course there are tons of others that I haven't tested.
[04:43] <sklav> they have an awesome one on special
[04:43] <sethk> sklav, hp may well work.    Look into it.  Not sure what they run now, but they are amazing with big beautiful widescreens etc.
[04:43] <sklav> i used to work at ibm
[04:43] <duncan_cragg> anyone here know how to get suspend to work nicely with the R50e?
[04:43] <ubuntu_> Get a X1010 off ebay
[04:43] <ubuntu_> Probably $500 these days
[04:43] <ubuntu_> Maybe a little more
[04:43] <duncan_cragg> echo -n 4>/proc/acpi/sleep isn't it
[04:44] <dderr_> bob2: where you recommend going for dselect help?
[04:44] <nano> could anyone get the hardware sensors working in xfce for ubuntu?
[04:44] <Grimlord> sklav: I just did a flawless install on an Inspiron 8600 (except getting the OpenGL tuned). Intel Wireless and all works perfectly
[04:44] <bob2> dderr_: are you an experienced dselect user?
[04:44] <dderr_> somewhat, yeah
[04:44] <sklav> dselect has an option to cancel
[04:45] <ubuntu_> How do I get Firefox+sound working for http://ytmnd.com/
[04:45] <ubuntu_> ?
[04:45] <scott> you need top get the quicktime plugin
[04:45] <ubuntu_> The whole site has silly animated images with background sounds
[04:45] <Mabus06> I installed the spca5xx drivers google told me to do for my webcam. How do I get it to 'work'?
[04:45] <ubuntu_> scott:  Link
[04:45] <ubuntu_> Actually
[04:45] <ubuntu_> I am in Ubuntu live
[04:45] <ubuntu_> :/
[04:45] <scott> dont have one. search www.firefox.com for it
[04:46] <scott> oh. that may be a littel different
[04:46] <ubuntu_> How does Live work
[04:46] <scott> dont know
[04:46] <bob2> dderr_: does hitting = on everything in the "things to be installed screen" work well enough?
[04:46] <sklav> cd
[04:47] <scott> live works by booting from the disk and using the hardrive as an accessory rather than booting from the harddrive
[04:47] <ubuntu_> That's amazing
[04:47] <scott> but i have an inquiry of my own. if nobody can help me then i am screwed....see, i forgot the password to my user account
[04:47] <ubuntu_> Kudos to the Ubuntu team
[04:48] <scott> i feel like a nub
[04:48] <ubuntu_> You have root but not the user?
[04:48] <ejofee> anybody here use shfs(u)mount?
[04:48] <sklav> scott are u logged in at the moment?
[04:48] <scott> yes
[04:48] <sklav> scott, passwd username
[04:48] <scott> to both questions
[04:48] <ubuntu_> Just copy all the settings for the user
[04:48] <ubuntu_> Delete him
[04:48] <ubuntu_> Then add him again
[04:48] <ubuntu_> Setting the new password
[04:48] <ubuntu_> That's what I would do b/c it's quick and dirty
[04:48] <bob2> wtf
[04:48] <ubuntu_> I am sure there is a faster way
[04:48] <sklav> passwd username as root will fix ur issue
[04:48] <scott> i assume i need to do the terminal command logged in as a super user?
[04:49] <scott> yeah
[04:49] <sklav> yes scott
[04:49] <scott> thanks
[04:49] <sethk> as root you can just do  passwd username
[04:49] <ubuntu_> Yeah
[04:49] <sethk> no need for any strangeness
[04:49] <sklav> hehe
[04:49] <ubuntu_> $  passwd scott
[04:49] <sklav> ubuntu_, bad advice heheh
[04:49] <ubuntu_> New password:
[04:49] <ubuntu_> etc.
[04:49] <ubuntu_> sklav:  It would have worked
[04:49] <sklav> yeah
[04:49] <ubuntu_> OK
[04:49] <ubuntu_> So
[04:49] <sklav> but groups would be somewhat tweaked if not done well
[04:50] <ubuntu_> I have a laptop here running Ubuntu Live
[04:50] <ubuntu_> I am hooked now
[04:50] <tritium> !tell ubuntu_ about enter
[04:50] <scott> awesome. thanks guys. i dont know all of the terminal commands yet.
[04:50] <ubuntu_> scott:  One of my favorites is 'rm -rf *'
[04:50] <nano> lol
[04:50] <sklav> scott, dont listen
[04:50] <ubuntu_> Usually after my 2nd favorite 'cd /'
[04:50] <tritium> ubuntu_, please don't do that
[04:50] <dderr_> bob2 : where is the "things to be installed" screen in dselect?
[04:51] <JoeyDay|ubuntu> Anyone know of a way to make sure ez-ipupdater runs at startup?
[04:51] <ubuntu_> Add it to the /etc/init.d as a startup
[04:51] <sklav> dderr_, press spacebat
[04:51] <sklav> dderr_, press spacebar
[04:51] <sklav> you will have an options menu with number
[04:51] <JoeyDay|ubuntu> ubuntu_: Can I add it in there with flags?
[04:51] <JaZy84> what is a good graphical ftp client
[04:52] <ubuntu_> JaZy84, :   Filezilla
[04:52] <JoeyDay|ubuntu> This particular process needs to be running as a daemon, so I need to tack the --daemon flag on there and a --config-file flag.
[04:52] <Kuyaedz> JaZy84 try gFTP in gnome
[04:52] <ubuntu_> JoeyDay|ubuntu, :  You can do whatever
[04:52] <JoeyDay|ubuntu> ubuntu_: Okay, how do I put it in there?
[04:52] <ubuntu_> You make a service
[04:52] <ubuntu_> Add it as a service basically
[04:52] <JoeyDay|ubuntu> I'm completely new to Linux.
[04:52] <JaZy84> gftp for some reason isn't listing certain sites.. i try pasv on off still nothing however i know they are open and working (via another machine)
[04:53] <JoeyDay|ubuntu> Can you point me to a tutorial or explain the commands for me? Sorry to be such a n00b.
[04:53] <ubuntu_> JoeyDay|ubuntu, :  I suggest googling 'add service /etc/init.d linux ubuntu' or something similar
[04:53] <Kuyaedz> JaZy84: odd.  I haven't had any problems with gFTP on three machines..
[04:53] <JaZy84> hrm
[04:53] <ubuntu_> GFTP is indeed crap
[04:53] <ubuntu_> I recommend Filezilla
[04:53] <ubuntu_> I don't care for Gnome to be honest
[04:53] <sklav> likes gftp
[04:53] <ubuntu_> And many Gnome apps
[04:53] <AIV> ubuntuguid.org has the guide for version 5.04
[04:53] <ubuntu_> I agree with Linus
[04:54] <sklav> ubuntu_, to each their own
[04:54] <AIV> is there a guide for 5.10, or is it just the same as far as the guide goes?
[04:54] <Kuyaedz> I don't agree with Linus, but thats for another forum I'm sure
[04:54] <cafuego> linus is full of shit.
[04:54] <sklav> but i must say that gnome over the past year has improved
[04:54] <sklav> its a hell of a lot faster than it used to be
[04:54] <cafuego> and kde is full of ugly ;-)
[04:54] <tritium> ubuntu_, please don't start a desktop war, and please use full sentences rather than hitting enter so often
[04:54] <sklav> and compared to new kde i think its faster
[04:54] <sklav> as my system is set to dual boot
[04:54] <ubuntu_> tritium, :  Apologies, ENTER is a habit of mine
[04:54] <sklav> so same specs gnome faster
[04:54] <nitinshantharam> hey guys, how can i jail a specifc sftp user to a specfic directory (not home dir)
[04:54] <sklav> i like kde
[04:55] <ubuntu_> Speed is only one factor, like everything else in the world
[04:55] <sklav> but the last 3 versions have weird icons
[04:55] <ubuntu_> I would rather be beautiful and a slow runner for instance
[04:55] <sklav> they dont resize properly
[04:55] <ejofee> please give me a link to a latest howto on installing nvidia in ubuntu
[04:55] <sklav> when changing resolution
[04:55] <JaZy84> filezill on apt?
[04:55] <durt> ubuntu_ : no you wouldn't
[04:55] <binarydigit> ejofee: goto the forums
[04:56] <sklav> i would rather be average but freaking fast
[04:56] <ubuntu_> Girls don't care about fast
[04:56] <sklav> look at the olympics
[04:56] <sklav> $$$
[04:56] <ubuntu_> No.  Drug$$$$
[04:56] <ubuntu_> Then your records get taken away from you
[04:56] <dderr_> sklav : im still not finding anything useful for helping me uselect a bunch of stuff
[04:56] <sklav> ubuntu_, girls dont care about men either you shpould be a shoe if you want attention
[04:56] <nitinshantharam> hey guys, how can i jail a specifc sftp user to a specfic directory (not home dir)
[04:57] <sklav> dderr_, 1 sec let me check
[04:57] <rosen> ejofee, http://ubuntuguide.squarecows.com/doku.php#hardware
[04:57] <Mabus06> Can anyone reccomend a program I can use webcam in conversations with msn contacts?
[04:57] <ubuntu_> JaZy84, :   http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=21558&package_id=15149&release_id=377444   LINK TO FILEZILLA DOWNLOAD
[04:57] <JaZy84> ty
[04:57] <ubuntu_> Mabus06, :  If you do that you should use shotgun mouthwash immediately
[04:58] <sklav> dderr_, i dont have dselect installed on my ubuntu system
[04:58] <sklav> dderr_, just go to #debian
[04:58] <ejofee> rosen: thank you
[04:58] <sklav> but dont mention ubuntu
[04:58] <ejofee> binarydigit: thanks
[04:58] <sklav> say debian stable
[04:59] <sklav> if asked
[04:59] <JairunCaloth> can someone help me with recompiling my kernel?
[04:59] <rosen> ejofee, happy to help
[04:59] <Yuri> hello
[04:59] <dderr_> sklav : thx for your help anyways
[04:59] <ubuntu_> JairunCaloth, :  If you are asking that you shouldn't be recompiling your kernel
[04:59] <ubuntu_> Hi Yuri, tell us about yourself and why you are here
[04:59] <rosen> bored ubuntu_  ?
[05:00] <Yuri> a friend is having problems installing ubunt at your travelmate 4151
[05:00] <Mabus06> pardon, ubuntu_ ?
[05:00] <nano> hehe
[05:00] <cafuego> JairunCaloth: Why do you think you need to recompile your kernel?
[05:01] <sklav> ubuntu_, i know how to compile kernels but not on ubuntu
[05:01] <Yuri> is anyone having the same problem?
[05:01] <cafuego> Why would it be any different from any other Linux system?
[05:01] <JairunCaloth> I just upgraded to a new video driver, and I'm getting an error when X trys to start saying the kernel driver and the X driver are different. I don't remember the commands to recompile the kernel that I used last time I did this.
[05:01] <sklav> i have issues with my ubuntu cd on my acer cdrom
[05:01] <sklav> it keeps rebooting
[05:01] <sklav> but that is about it
[05:02] <arod--> are there any ubuntu ebooks?
[05:02] <ubuntu_> Yuri, :  Ask Google and then consult us further if you still have questions
[05:02] <bulio> guys
[05:02] <Yuri> i asked google, ubuntu_
[05:02] <bulio> I had problems with X server when I tried upgrding from 4.10 to 5.10
[05:02] <sklav> seriously ubuntu_ you should be on fedora
[05:02] <bulio> will I have problems going from 5.04 to 5.1?
[05:03] <nalioth> bulio: if you've used non ubuntu pkgs, maybe
[05:03] <coag> bulio: how'd the reboot go?
[05:03] <bulio> works
[05:03] <coag> :-P
[05:03] <coag> yay
[05:03] <bulio> I'm in 5.04 now
[05:03] <bulio> I'm gonna go to 5.10
[05:03] <cafuego> bulio: You shoudln't have any issues. What video card you got?
[05:03] <coag> i just went up from that
[05:03] <coag> to breezy
[05:03] <mobus> I need the latest sources.list please?
[05:03] <bulio> ok
[05:03] <coag> mobus: google google google google
[05:03] <JairunCaloth> Do I only need to recompile the restricted modules?
[05:04] <sklav> JairunCaloth, why not install the latest restricted modules?
[05:04] <sklav> with apt-get?
[05:04] <JairunCaloth> I did, still the same error
[05:04] <sklav> do your kernels match?
[05:04] <Yuri> sklav: but u installed ubuntu @ your travelmate?
[05:04] <ubuntu_> sklav:  Your comment about Fedore doesn't make sense.  Please clarify.
[05:04] <bulio> Iwheres 5.210 install guide?
[05:04] <ptlo> for all following the linus vs gnome flame war: http://nat.org/natacity.patch ;-)
[05:04] <bulio> *5.10
[05:04] <sklav> ubuntu_, fedora hs lately been giving dead end answers
[05:05] <cafuego> !breezy
[05:05] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[05:05] <sklav> Yuri, what is the issue
[05:05] <bulio> ty
[05:05] <ubuntu_> sklav:  Please explain.  I have been out of Linux politics for a while
[05:05] <nano> lol @ linux politics :D
[05:05] <msims> will it harm anything to reboot in the middle of a fsck ie if the power goes out?
[05:05] <sklav> ubuntu_, your last 5 answers have been lets say not for the new commer
[05:06] <jesi> hey guys, how do i remove a link in bash (ooffice) so when I type that nothing happens
[05:06] <sklav> Yuri, asked a valid question and you pointed him to google
[05:06] <Yuri> sklav: when he is installing, your dvd isn't recognized by the system
[05:06] <Chris-C> howdy
[05:06] <alekz> hi, anyone has a video ipod here that can help me ?
[05:06] <sklav> ok
[05:06] <coag> jesi: man rm
[05:06] <ubuntu_> msims:  That probably depends on what filesystem you utilize
[05:06] <sklav> Yuri, the install cd is not a dvd
[05:06] <msims> ext3
[05:06] <sklav> its a cdrom
[05:06] <sklav> im hoping the image was burnt on a cdr
[05:07] <sklav> and not dvd
[05:07] <Yuri> sklav: installer is on a cd
[05:07] <sklav> ok
[05:07] <sklav> the disk is not being detected?
[05:07] <msims> ubuntu_: and the machine in question is in runlevel 1
[05:07] <msims> and fscking /
[05:07] <Yuri> sklav: but is readed by a dvd
[05:07] <jesi> coag, i want to remove the link ...
[05:07] <deque> Is there a specific place to report hardware support regressions in Dapper other than "normal" bugzilla?
[05:07] <ubuntu_> Fucking is good
[05:07] <Chris-C> can someone tell me how to determine which "level" (stable / unstable / testing) a particular version of an app is in, so I know what repository to activate to get it?
[05:07] <jesi> coag, not the program
[05:07] <ubuntu_> Or rather fscking
[05:07] <coag> jesi: if it's a symlink
[05:07] <sklav> Yuri, dvd can read cdrom but not the other way around
[05:07] <coag> then still man rm
[05:07] <deque> Chris-C, AFAIK, you just have to look
[05:08] <sklav> ok lets assume the cdrom is working
[05:08] <coag> and look for sumlinks
[05:08] <coag> symlinks
[05:08] <sklav> does anything happen?
[05:08] <sklav> does the ubuntu installer start?
[05:08] <jesi> ooffice
[05:08] <jesi> bash: /usr/bin/ooffice: No such file or directory
[05:08] <Chris-C> I figured there was probably some apt | grep way to do it
[05:08] <ZeroIRC> Anyone know how I might fix this error? { Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/connect.php on line 2 }
[05:08] <deque> Chris-C, well, you have to enable the repositiories before apt can tell you
[05:08] <sklav> ZeroIRC, i had same issue
[05:08] <jesi> what folder is that link kept in
[05:08] <jesi> coag
[05:08] <bulio> when 5.10 is downloading, I dont need to intervene right?
[05:08] <sklav> apt-get install php-mysql
[05:09] <msims> so again is it likely to harm anything if the power goes out while I am fscking / (ext3) in runlevel 1
[05:09] <bulio> like say yes to anyhting?
[05:09] <sklav> but if you using php5 then php5-mysql
[05:09] <deque> Chris-C, What are you looking for, I might know where it is if it's common-ish
[05:09] <ZeroIRC> thanks sklav
[05:09] <cafuego> msims: Yes.
[05:09] <sklav> i had same issue yesterday
[05:09] <sklav> ;)
[05:09] <Chris-C> dosemu v1.2.1 versus v1.2.2
[05:09] <cafuego> msims: Because the disk is being used 100% at such a time, the head is more likely to crash into the platter.
[05:10] <deque> Chris-C, Are you on Breezy?
[05:10] <coag> jesi: obviosly the link is gone already
[05:10] <msims> ok thanks
[05:10] <Chris-C> yes
[05:10] <coag> ooffice does nothing now
[05:10] <jesi> ooffice
[05:10] <jesi> bash: /usr/bin/ooffice: No such file or directory
[05:10] <jesi>    * how do i remove this link so i dont get error
[05:10] <sklav> Yuri, u still there?
[05:10] <msims> It's done
[05:10] <msims> lets see what got ate
[05:10] <Yuri> sklav: yes
[05:10] <dderr_> sklav : how do you do your package management? I am going to reinstall to clean up the mess
[05:10] <Yuri> sklav: crying :P
[05:10] <Yuri> lol
[05:10] <dderr_> you use apt?
[05:10] <deque> Chris-C, My system shows it in multiverse
[05:10] <coag> jesi: that currently has no link is what that is telling you
[05:10] <jesi> coag, it does exists that why im getting it
[05:10] <coag> jesi: no you don't understand
[05:10] <sklav> dderr_, i use apt- and synaptic
[05:10] <Chris-C> deque: that's 1.2.1, I'm looking for 1.2.2
[05:11] <sklav> on server install i just use apt
[05:11] <jesi> coag, if i were to type, "blah"  i get no command exists
[05:11] <sklav> with all the tools available its pretty easy
[05:11] <coag> when you type a command in the terminal it looks to /usr/bin/* for and and goes "wtf"
[05:11] <sklav> for searching i use apt-cache search packagename
[05:11] <deque> Chris-C, yeah, I don't see that version in in the standard repos, I'd suggest adding backports and see if it might be in there
[05:11] <jesi> coag, well let me ask u something else, how do i have ooffice command link to office2 instead
[05:11] <coag> jesi: man ln
[05:11] <Yuri> sklav: it's so strange... other distros like mandriva was installed with success on the notebook
[05:11] <Yuri> but ubuntu
[05:11] <coag> you will need the flags ln -sf
[05:12] <Chris-C> OK thanks
[05:12] <coag> jesi: for a symlink
[05:12] <sklav> Yuri, it could be the disk
[05:12] <Yuri> no...
[05:12] <sklav> have you tested if it boots up on another system?
[05:12] <Yuri> this disk worked fine with me
[05:12] <sklav> ok
[05:12] <deque> Chris-C, I use dosemu rarely, and the 1.2.1 works for me, so I'm not really the best person to answer that. sry.
[05:12] <sklav> does the laptop even see it?
[05:12] <Yuri> and md5 check was ok
[05:12] <nitinshantharam> hey guys, how can i jail a specifc sftp user to a specfic directory (not home dir)
[05:13] <sklav> Yuri sometimes some cdr will not work on particular cd/dvd's
[05:13] <deque> nitinshantharam, I _think_ there is a way to do that, have you looked in the man pages for sshd?
[05:14] <Yuri> hum...
[05:14] <msims> hrm nothing is missing but it does think I have a superblock time in the future
[05:14] <Yuri> sklav: i'll try with the media sent by canonical
[05:14] <sklav> example Yuri my burtned cdrom plays on most of my radios except in my car and in this computers cdrom
[05:14] <msims> fixing the clock time should take care of it correct?
[05:15] <Yuri> maybe it's correct, sklav
[05:15] <sklav> Yuri, also look on the manufactures website with any issues with the cdrom
[05:15] <sklav> on travelmate
[05:15] <sklav> sometimes they have firmware updates that fix issues like that
[05:15] <wastrel> i want to add a flag for my wifi card kernel module when it boots. how do i do this/
[05:15] <Rubin> anyone know why php5 isnt compiled threadsafe in ubuntu?
[05:15] <sklav> its weird but true
[05:16] <Yuri> ok, sklav...
[05:16] <sklav> im not saying that is the answer to your prob
[05:16] <sklav> but an option
[05:16] <Yuri> ok...
[05:18] <deque> I missed the beginning of the conversation Yuri, but it soundsl ike you are having a hard time reading a burn that sohuld be ok? Might also want to try another burn at a lower speed, that often makes picky CD readers cooperate
[05:18] <deque> I have to do that all the time to get my old iMacs to read discs that I make, I have to burn them no faster than 8x.
[05:18] <coag> iMac hehe
[05:18] <nano> anyone uses xfce (sorry the xubuntu channel is dead :( )
[05:18] <Yuri> ok deque, i'll try
[05:18] <nalioth> nano: just ask your question
[05:18] <coag> you are kidding there is an xubuntu too?
[05:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell coag about xubuntu
[05:19] <coag> what is with ubuntu needing different names for different WM's
[05:19] <wastrel> anyone know where to configure boot flags for my kernel module?
[05:19] <cafuego> The ubuntu isos really don't like to be written at over 8X on cheap media.
[05:19] <merlyTVs> i use it on a p3 700
[05:19] <nalioth> coag: it doesnt. *-desktop installs whole arrays of things to support a WM
[05:19] <coag> is there a fubuntu
[05:20] <merlyTVs> coag- i did 24X on some mass-buy "audio" cds. hee hee
[05:20] <coag> for fluxbox
[05:20] <sklav> will only burn stuff at 8x now on
[05:20] <nalioth> coag: you can make one, if you wish
[05:20] <coag> nalioth: :P
[05:20] <sklav> i have a bunch of coasters
[05:20] <merlyTVs> coag- do a "server" install
[05:20] <coag> heh
[05:20] <nano> nalioth, could you get the hardware sensors working in xfce ( I use dell inspiron 5100 )
[05:20] <coag> nalioth: i just think i'ts silly they seperate them bu actually
[05:20] <nalioth> nano: do you have "lm_sensors" installed?
[05:20] <coag> nalioth: oops enter ( it makes sense now keeps the isos smaller to only transport one WM)
[05:21] <nalioth> coag: xubuntu is meant for older less powerful systems
[05:21] <Mattz0r> yo
[05:21] <sklav> i think its time for bed
[05:21] <freelove> how many here use InitNG successfully?
[05:22] <nalioth> cafuego: you taking ubotu to your install/lan party?
[05:22] <nano> nalioth, yes, however it fails to "set limits" during startup
[05:22] <nano> nalioth, in other words i couldn't get it installed properly
[05:22] <cafuego> nalioth: No, I'm going to give them to a local school
[05:22] <nalioth> nano: there are other sensor pkgs available, iirc
[05:22] <sklav> ubotu, tell nano about install party
[05:22] <Thunderguy> Hey What do I use for .ram files? it's for a school project.
[05:22] <nalioth> cafuego: cool and good to hear. are you giving some of your time, too?
[05:22] <nano> nalioth, what's install party?
[05:23] <nalioth> Thunderguy: realplayer or helix
[05:23] <nano> oops that was for sklaw
[05:23] <Thunderguy> thanks.
[05:23] <cafuego> nalioth: Yes, but they INSISTED on being invoiced.
[05:23] <nalioth> nano: when you take your 200 ubuntu cds and invite 200 people to install ubuntu together
[05:23] <cafuego> nalioth: So for $1100 they're going to get an Edubuntu setup
[05:23] <nalioth> cafuego: great!
[05:23] <coag> nalioth: why did you refer to it as ubotu
[05:23] <wastrel> hmm
[05:23] <Thunderguy> nalioth: anything in the repositories?
[05:23] <wastrel> i would go to a ubuntu install party in nyc
[05:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell coag about yourself
[05:23] <cafuego> nalioth: Hopefully :-)
[05:23] <jesi> coag, i figured out problem, i had to open a new terminal
[05:23] <jesi> coag,  :)
[05:24] <coag> jesi: :)
[05:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Thunderguy about realplayer
[05:24] <cafuego> nalioth: My contact there is great, he plonked OOo2 on their systems, then mailed out a .odt document to everyone :-)
[05:24] <coag> im sorry
[05:24] <cafuego> nalioth: ... and was complimented on the upgrade, office suddenly ran much quicker ;-)
[05:24] <nalioth> cafuego: proof of concept completed, eh?
[05:25] <sklav> cafuego, care to write an article on a proof of concept
[05:25] <sklav> and post it on www.speakoutonline.com
[05:25] <deque> cafuego, where are you? I am an admin for a school district, so I am always looking for case studies to give the higher-ups
[05:25] <cafuego> sklav: Ugh, sounds like work.
[05:25] <cafuego> deque: Australia
[05:25] <sklav> hehe
[05:26] <sklav> im trying to start a linux promotion site
[05:26] <nalioth> deque: google "macedonia ubuntu"
[05:26] <deque> cafuego, cool. I am in Oregon. I haven't done any Ubuntu roll-outs, but I do have 75-seats worth of Thin-client terminals (K12LTSP)
[05:26] <sklav> ok im going to bed
[05:27] <sklav> work tommorow morning bright an early
[05:27] <Thunderguy> That wiki isn't working.. as a matter of fact google isn't working either.
[05:27] <deque> nalioth, Heard about that. Haven't looked at the details though
[05:27] <sklav> i dont know about the bright part but early yes
[05:27] <Thunderguy> oh it's back up, hrm
[05:27] <sklav> goodnight guys
[05:29] <PeaceKeeper> any ops around?
[05:30] <PeaceKeeper> relaying a question from a user that's currently screwed by your tor ban, because it's not quite set right
[05:30] <bob2> ...
[05:30] <nalioth> PeaceKeeper: what question is that?
[05:30] <bob2> also, I am yet to see an actual reason for someone to use tor to come here
[05:30] <PeaceKeeper> bophe's not using tor
[05:31] <PeaceKeeper> Jmax * #Ubuntu Banlist: Tue Dec 13 17:58:06<EMAIL_ADDRESS>ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
[05:31] <PeaceKeeper> Jmax * wuming<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:31] <kkathman> wow thats some ban! lol
[05:31] <PeaceKeeper> ban should be *!*@tor/session*
[05:31] <advent_linux> whats tor?
[05:31] <nalioth> PeaceKeeper: tor has many permutations of its IP
[05:31] <PeaceKeeper> proxy system
[05:31] <coag> wow applying this beep mp patch for xmms info pipe is taking forever
[05:31] <PeaceKeeper> nalioth: not on freenode
[05:31] <AIV> I am running Ubunti 5.10, I installed Apache via synaptic, and I want to drop a test php file in the right folder, how do I find out where apache installed to?
[05:31] <cafuego> advent_linux: A trollaganza free-for-all
[05:32] <bob2> nalioth: OPN puts them behind /tor
[05:32] <bob2> PeaceKeeper: thanks for pointing it out
[05:32] <PeaceKeeper> nalioth: freenode has a tor list
[05:32] <PeaceKeeper> bob2: no problem
[05:32] <hapie_satoe> charlieS
[05:32] <alekz> hi, anyone has a video ipod here that can help me ?
[05:32] <advent_linux> cafuego, if you say so, i'll google it
[05:32] <nitinshantharam> guys how do i jail users using scponly?
[05:32] <cafuego> bob2: I need to sue tor on #gnome to tell them about Linus ;-)
[05:32] <bob2> AIV: that has nothing to do with where apache is installed
[05:32] <bob2> cafuego: haha
[05:33] <cafuego> advent_linux: Basically, an anonymiser.
[05:33] <bob2> AIV: make ~/public_html/, go to http://lolcalhost/~username/
[05:33] <advent_linux> yep just saw that
[05:33] <cafuego> advent_linux: Which many people abuse to troll and spam, so it's banned here.
[05:33] <nevyn> kernel panic at boot on MSI K8 SMP board with 2.6.12-10-amd64-k8-smp
[05:33] <advent_linux> cafuego, wise move
[05:33] <PeaceKeeper> anyway, have a good day ladies a gents :)
[05:33] <nevyn> any pointers should I chase this here or on lkml?
[05:34] <bob2> nevyn: does noapic/nolapic/acpi=off help?
[05:34] <AIV> bob2, ok, I have installed apache on windows, and normally I drop my pages in the htdocs directory or something like that, and thats what I am wanting to know in linux, I am very new to linux
[05:34] <cafuego> nevyn: Does it also do poo with an x86 k7 smp kernel?
[05:34] <AIV> bob2, I will try that, thank you
[05:34] <tristan_> are there any graphics-related chatrooms?
[05:35] <bob2> AIV: /var/www/ is the documentroot
[05:35] <thrice`> anyone get apple trailers working?
[05:35] <nevyn> bob2: I'll give that a go..
[05:36] <bob2> nevyn: sometimes it takes all 3 options
[05:36] <wastrel> how do i add boot options to my kernel modules?
[05:36] <dooglus> AIV: cgi documents go in /usr/lib/cgi-bin/
[05:36] <dabaR> How good are the chances that if I install apache2 now (I have apache installed) that no changes whatsoever will be noticed on the outside (people connecting to my server)?
[05:37] <AIV> bob2, thank you
[05:37] <cafuego> Woo ChanServ!
[05:37] <bob2> dabaR: 0
[05:37] <bsims> Arrgh my ntp server had stopped answering so fsck thinks I have a superblock with a future date... I now have ntp talking to a live server should I be concerned?
[05:37] <cafuego> dabaR: it should be a seamless transition, unless you run weird modules.
[05:37] <bob2> wastrel: what option?
[05:38] <cafuego> bob2: chanserv just reenabled the bad *.tor.* ban
[05:38] <wastrel> bob2:  an option for my wifi module to not auto associate
[05:38] <grshpr> i'm sitting on a laptop, ibook g3 with ubuntu hoary gnome. i'm about to change to xfce in synaptic, what packages do i need for maximal performance? :)
[05:38] <nevyn> bob2: it stoped it looping.. :)
[05:38] <bob2> yay
[05:38] <cafuego> grshpr: a kernel, libc6 and bash
[05:38] <nevyn> bob2: and gave an error "CPU 1 OOPS.. 532
[05:38] <bob2> grshpr: performance is unrelated to that
[05:38] <cafuego> and boot with init=/bin/bash
[05:39] <ajmitch> cafuego: use posh, not bash
[05:39] <ajmitch> it's much better ;)
[05:39] <dabaR> bob2, cafuego: you obviously can notice how your answers contradict. We all know whose answer has more weight, but -- what then, is it gonna be seamless or no?
[05:39] <grshpr> bob2: that's true.
[05:39] <cafuego> dabaR; if one answer has more weight then the other, it should be clear to you.
[05:40] <grshpr> cafuego: hm, well ok, that's true, let me put it this way. what packages do i need for it to run?
[05:40] <dooglus> grshpr: just install xubuntu-desktop
[05:40] <cafuego> grshpr: 'xubuntu-desktop'
[05:40] <grshpr> what is the difference between xfce and xfce4.
[05:40] <dooglus> 3
[05:40] <dabaR> I have no modules whatsoever installed. Just apache serving files to the general public.
[05:40] <grshpr> dooglus: cafuego: ok. :)
[05:40] <grshpr> i'll search for that.
[05:40] <bob2> dabaR: if you install both, only one will work
[05:40] <bob2> by default
[05:41] <bob2> dabaR: if you have a complicated config, you will need to port it, afaik
[05:41] <bob2> cafuego: it was on the autorem list, it seems
[05:41] <dabaR> I have nothing customized at all. just serving files from /var/www. so then apache2 will just replace apache?
[05:41] <bob2> which I don't understand at all
[05:41] <bob2> dabaR: yes, except they will both try to grab port 80
[05:41] <grshpr> dooglus: where do i find xubuntu-desktop using synaptic? could not generate any results with search words: xubuntu-desktop and xubuntu.
[05:41] <dabaR> bob2: apache2 will remove apache, no?
[05:42] <bob2> dabaR: no, they do not conflict
[05:42] <cafuego> !start a shell war
[05:42] <ubotu> pdksh is far faster, better and less bloated than es!
[05:42] <dooglus> grshpr: maybe it's only available for breezy then
[05:42] <grshpr> dooglus: most likely.
[05:42] <dabaR> can I safely remove apache? it wont do anything weird to my files in /var/www?
[05:42] <cafuego> dabaR: No, I run apache 1./3 and 2.0 concurrently (both with various vhosts)
[05:43] <dabaR> well, it cant anyhow, they are not his.
[05:43] <TokenBad> man this printer is getting on my nerves
[05:43] <coag> cafuego: Well i love lmnop!
[05:43] <grshpr> dooglus: would a upgrade to breezy be easily done without having to remove any of my current information?
[05:43] <dooglus> grshpr: I see "500 http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages" - so it's in 'universe' for breezy.
[05:43] <dabaR> Ill just plunge into it, and hopefully be in bed within the next few hours:)
[05:43] <dooglus> grshpr: it's quite a lot to download.
[05:43] <grshpr> dooglus: oh, ok, i'll try add that to respitories instead.
[05:43] <cafuego> dabaR: apache2 has a slightly different config, you'll need to edit /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default to fix the redirect to the docs that's there.
[05:43] <dabaR> cafuego: I just want it to serve files from /var/www is all.
[05:44] <dooglus> grshpr: I'm pretty sure that xubuntu-desktop is just an empty meta-package anyway.
[05:44] <TokenBad> can anyone help me set up this epson stylus 740 and get it to work..everything I have tried so far hasn't worked
[05:44] <cafuego> dabaR; yes, means commenting a directive in the default config.
[05:44] <cafuego> TokenBad: plug it in, tell CUPS to add it. Done.
[05:44] <TokenBad> cafuego, I did that
[05:44] <grshpr> dooglus: what does that mean?
[05:44] <TokenBad> it still don't work
[05:44] <dooglus> grshpr: just install these, and you'll have the same effect: abiword, acpi, acpi-support, acpid, anacron, apmd, bc, bogofilter, cdparanoia, cdrecord, cupsys, cupsys-bsd, cupsys-client, cupsys-driver-gimpprint, dbus-1-utils, dc, doc-debian, dvd+rw-tools, esound, fetchmail, firefox, foomatic-db, foomatic-db-engine, foomatic-db-gimp-print, foomatic-db-hpijs, foomatic-filters, foomatic-filters-ppds, gaim, gqview, graveman, gs-esp, hal, hotkey-setup, hplip-base
[05:44] <dabaR> It seems to just work already.
[05:45] <cafuego> dabaR; Did you kill apache 1.3 and start 2.0?
[05:45] <coag> cafuego: do i use CUPS to mount a printer that has it's own IP?
[05:45] <dooglus> grshpr: that's the list of packages that xubuntu-desktop brings in
[05:45] <cafuego> coag: I do.
[05:45] <coag> alright
[05:45] <coag> and graphical tool for htat?
[05:45] <coag> any
[05:45] <grshpr> dooglus: well... i need xfce. :)
[05:45] <dabaR> cafuego: ah. I uninstalled apache...
[05:45] <dabaR> I have to kill it too?
[05:45] <dabaR> heh
[05:45] <cafuego> coag: Yes, System -> Admin -> Printers
[05:45] <grshpr> dooglus: so, xfce or xfce4?
[05:46] <cafuego> dabaR; Well,  not if it's not running
[05:46] <dabaR> It was before I uninstalled it.
[05:46] <dooglus> grshpr: xfce4 is the newer of the two
[05:46] <dooglus> grshpr: I'd go for that if I was you
[05:46] <arod--> are there any ebooks for ubuntu? for newbies?
[05:46] <grshpr> dooglus: ok
[05:46] <TokenBad> cafuego, any other ideas?
[05:47] <dabaR> what should I read?
[05:47] <cafuego> TokenBad: Any chance the printer is broken?
[05:47] <nalioth> arod--: http://help.ubuntu.com
[05:47] <cafuego> TokenBad: I had two and they both broke
[05:47] <TokenBad> cafuego, it was working till put new cartridges in it
[05:47] <wastrel> i want to add "associate=0" to my ipw2200 kernel module on boot-  where do i set this?
[05:47] <grshpr> dooglus: thx m8.
[05:48] <cafuego> wastrel: ANy file in /etc/modprobe.d
[05:48] <cafuego> wastrel: Add in "options ipw220 associate=0"
[05:49] <dabaR> Do I change the /etc/apache2/apache2.conf for making apache serve files from my /var/www dir?
[05:49] <wastrel> ok added it to /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[05:49] <wastrel> thx
[05:49] <Mabus06> Can anyone help me to get my webcam to take pictures?
[05:50] <Mabus06> I installed what google seemed to point out to be the right drivers, spca5xx
[05:50] <Mabus06> It is a usb webcam
[05:51] <Poland> how do i play .mp3 on this thing
[05:51] <Poland> youll have to excuse me, im new to this since today!
[05:51] <wastrel> Poland:  xmms
[05:51] <Mabus06> rhytmbox, Poland
[05:51] <Poland> it wont play mp3
[05:52] <Poland> rhytmbox
[05:52] <Mabus06> !mp3
[05:52] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:52] <B-166_ER-X> what package do i need to be able to get my photos from my digital cam with Gimp or else ?
[05:52] <Mabus06> I don't know, B-166_ER-X, I'd also like to know
[05:52] <B-166_ER-X> hm
[05:52] <grshpr> B-166_ER-X: none.
[05:53] <Mabus06> grshpr, then how is it done?
[05:53] <Poland> what about .avi?
[05:53] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Poland about mp3
[05:53] <B-166_ER-X> i already done it, but formatted since
[05:53] <Poland> should i use vlc?
[05:53] <grshpr> Mabus06: if you are using usb, you should just be able to browse to your files. a new usb-icon should appear on your desktop.
[05:53] <nalioth> Poland: you have privat messages with info
[05:54] <grshpr> Poland: xine is good.
[05:54] <grshpr> Poland: gxine is you use gnome.
[05:54] <B-166_ER-X> grshpr,  that is, if its not : what do i need
[05:54] <grshpr> B-166_ER-X: what do you have?
[05:54] <B-166_ER-X> a Kodak DC-5000
[05:54] <KerPlunk> When new Ubuntu versions are out can you apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade to them?
[05:54] <KerPlunk> And will I ever have to reboot?
[05:55] <grshpr> B-166_ER-X: and what more?
[05:55] <grshpr> B-166_ER-X: what's the transfer standard?
[05:55] <B-166_ER-X> USB cable
[05:55] <bimberi_> KerPlunk: yes and yes (when you get a kernel upgrade)
[05:55] <thrice`> KerPlunk: yes; and kernel upgrades require you to reboot in order to take effect
[05:55] <grshpr> B-166_ER-X: then plug it in the usb and wait for the dialogue (or icon) to pop up on your desktop!
[05:55] <bimberi_> KerPlunk: ... which doesn't happen very often
[05:56] <B-166_ER-X> grshpr,  i Said, that its not working, like it wasnt on my other computer either, i just need to know what is the missing package
[05:56] <grshpr> B-166_ER-X: well... what type of usb is it? do any other usb device work?
[05:57] <Poland> gxine i should use then? will that play .mpg and .mpeg?
[05:57] <B-166_ER-X> YES all other usb worked.
[05:57] <linkd> Poland: yes gxine will do that
[05:57] <grshpr> B-166_ER-X: google is now your best friend.
[05:57] <KerPlunk> I tried to compile Network Manager on my debian sid system...all kinds of weird dbus code...beyond my capabilities.
[05:57] <KerPlunk> I'm getting pissed because I want Network Manager, heh.
[05:57] <B-166_ER-X> i had help, here, last time
[05:58] <grshpr> B-166_ER-X: camera name + usb + ubuntu/linux + package -- search words
[05:58] <KerPlunk> B-166_ER-X: What do you have plugged in via usb?
[05:58] <B-166_ER-X> nothing for 'now, but i have a usb stick wich is auto detected
[05:58] <B-166_ER-X> so that works, jsut, not my kodak DC
[05:58] <KerPlunk> B-166_ER-X: I use "usbmount" (apt-get install usbmount) ... it auto mounts my external hdd, usb thumb drives, and camera...all by default.
[05:59] <bimberi> KerPlunk: not sure if you're asking, but network-manager is available in ubuntu (universe)
[05:59] <KerPlunk> bimberi: I know.
[05:59] <wastrel> what's network-manager?
[05:59] <bimberi> KerPlunk: k :) (thought you might)
[06:00] <B-166_ER-X> still not working
[06:00] <bimberi> ubotu tell wastrel about network-manager
[06:00] <dabaR> B-166_ER-X: did you get that drive access fixed?
[06:01] <B-166_ER-X> dabar_  i'm on another computer now..
[06:01] <B-166_ER-X> the motherboard is screwed on mine..
[06:01] <n0dl> what was the command to search for a file name was it usrname -r?
[06:02] <bimberi> n0dl: locate <file>
[06:02] <TokenBad> I went through cups and added my printer, epson stylus 740, but for some reason it will not work...the test print acts like printing but nothing on page, or it just sits there and does nothing.....
[06:02] <Poland> how do i get gxine?
[06:02] <Poland> thru terminal?
[06:02] <Poland> does anyone know how to d/l .nzb files for this?
[06:03] <bulio> warty works!
[06:03] <bimberi> Poland: sudo aptitude install gxine (once you've enabled the universe repository)
[06:03] <bulio> but on boot I get 3 things about re-loading panels due to problems
[06:03] <bulio> I click ok
[06:03] <bulio> I mean Breezy
[06:03] <B-166_ER-X> any1 knwos how to acess a Kodak Digital camera on ubuntu ?
[06:03] <TokenBad> poland
[06:03] <dabaR> I am refusing connections on port 80. When I try starting apache2 with invoke-rc.d or with /etc/init.d/apache2 I get no output.
[06:04] <TokenBad> nzb can be gotten with um
[06:04] <bimberi> Poland: i think klibido can work with .nzb files
[06:04] <TokenBad> klibido
[06:04] <TokenBad> yep
[06:04] <bulio> any idea what it might be?
[06:04] <Poland> but klibido doesnt work with mac does it
[06:04] <Poland> i have a mac
[06:04] <TokenBad> if your running ubuntu it should work
[06:04] <Poland> and really need to start d/l .nzb's
[06:05] <TokenBad> I would do apt-get install klibido
[06:05] <bulio> how can I tell what ubuntu version I'm running?
[06:05] <bimberi> bulio: lsb_release -a
[06:05] <xandrix_> i have a problem with my lilo splash screen
[06:05] <chemisus> whats the bare minimum ram required by unbuntu badger version?
[06:06] <bulio> says I'm running hoary
[06:06] <bulio> but I upgrded to breezy
[06:06] <bulio> odd
[06:06] <bulio> I did apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:06] <xandrix_> i use cofee.bmp i hve the right config for it but when i come to boot the pc i see no delay no efault lilo menu all i see is its written lilo 22.6.1 and no prompt nothing and after the timeout i set is done it just boots linux and i cannt chose my other os
[06:06] <bimberi> chemisus: 128MB (for Gnome)  I would say - there are other options for less RAM, like Xubuntu
[06:07] <B-166_ER-X> i installed gphoto2, but gimp still doesnt show any option for digital photos
[06:07] <durt> 64mb works with gnome but it is REALLY slow
[06:07] <xandrix_> wold this be easier with grub ?????
[06:07] <leather_n_luv> how do you make a bootable cd?
[06:08] <dabaR> B-166_ER-X: You just plug it in, and it should work.
[06:08] <rohan> nalioth: ok, now i am on many channel
[06:09] <B-166_ER-X> well, it DOESNT
[06:09] <nalioth> rohan: so i see
[06:09] <xandrix_> you use iso linux and u read a bit
[06:09] <B-166_ER-X> ..hence my questions
[06:09] <ejofee> anything new about silc?
[06:09] <xandrix_> does anyone here
[06:10] <xandrix_> have lilo with a splashscreen ?
[06:10] <TokenBad> I just don't understand this printer stuff
[06:10] <bulio> does this mean ubuntu has upgraded?
[06:10] <bulio> http://pastebin.com/463326
[06:10] <xandrix_> and another thing on my pc i would see a nce little loading bar n the screen but on my laptop i see the default kernel messages
[06:11] <xandrix_> would this be a frame buffer issue ?
[06:11] <bulio> anoyne?
[06:12] <orkin\a> will somebody give me a solution to the extreme sluggishness of ubuntu?
[06:12] <Ej25goddess> I would love to, but I have no idea what I am doing with it either :)
[06:12] <alekz> hi, anyone has a video ipod here that can help me ?
[06:12] <ejofee> xandrix_: i think you should adjust resolution from /etc/lilo.conf
[06:13] <holy_cow> lilo?
[06:13] <Ej25goddess> I have been having issues with ubuntu thinking I have two wifi cards, and picking the one that doesnt exsist on startup
[06:13] <holy_cow> wtf?
[06:13] <xandrix_> kk
[06:13] <Ej25goddess> So I always have to go into the network settings and select the other and actiivate it
[06:13] <Mabus06> How do I take pictures with my webcam
[06:13] <Ej25goddess> does anyone have an idea on how I can make it work all the time/
[06:13] <sethk> Ej25goddess, only once.  the configuration is saved
[06:14] <sethk> Ej25goddess, if it is active at shutdown, it will be activated on boot
[06:14] <ejofee> any silc user here?
[06:14] <orkin\a> I would be so happy if I could get ubuntu to process at speedds even close to windows
[06:14] <Ej25goddess> well, it keeps going into the wrong one when it boots :(
[06:14] <quacker> ejofee, I enjoy the feel of silk on my *ahem* intimate parts...  =P
[06:14] <sethk> orkin, to process what?  It is faster for some things, slower for others
[06:14] <Ej25goddess> any ideas?
[06:15] <xandrix_> brb
[06:15] <chaumurky> what's up Ej25goddess?
[06:15] <sethk> Ej25goddess, I just checked on my machine here with two cards.  The state at shutdown is recreated at boot.
[06:15] <holy_cow> orkin, how is it sluggish?
[06:15] <orkin\a> it's just slower overall, it takes time to get out of screen saver mode, it takes time for the menu to popup when i click up top, iot takes time to switch to different windows, it takes loads of time to run an application
[06:15] <leather_n_luv> is anyone here familiar with the creation of bootable cd's?
[06:15] <sethk> Ej25goddess, I'm not sure what you might mean by "wrong", but the behavior I see is consistent and sensible.
[06:16] <sethk> orkin, sounds like you have a video card for which there is no optimized X server.
[06:16] <holy_cow> or you are runing on like 12 megs ram and are paging all to hell
[06:16] <sethk> orkin, then it goes into a svga compatible mode that is very slow
[06:16] <B-166_ER-X> whats the command to list connected usb devices ?
[06:16] <bimberi> bulio: pastebin your sources.list
[06:16] <orkin\a> ahh
[06:16] <navreet> man... after the linus post on /. today, I decided to check out KDE
[06:17] <sethk> B-166_ER-X, lsusb
[06:17] <navreet> s0 br0k3n
[06:17] <orkin\a> how do i get an optimized x server for my video card?
[06:17] <wastrel> sounds like your hardware accel isn't working
[06:17] <Ej25goddess> essentially chaumurky, my ubuntu network settinigs keep resetting themselves
[06:17] <Ej25goddess> it detects two "wireless connections"
[06:17] <sethk> navreet, depends on the distro
[06:17] <Ej25goddess> when there is only one
[06:17] <Ej25goddess> they area called eth0 and eth1
[06:17] <wastrel> do glxinfo| grep direct
[06:17] <B-166_ER-X> also, when running gphoto2 from terminal with get all files, it jsut get 2 photos then says : Please make sure there is sufficient quoting around the arguments.
[06:17] <B-166_ER-X>
[06:17] <sethk> Ej25goddess, that's probably just ipv4 and ivp6
[06:17] <Ej25goddess> it automatically boots usisng eth0
[06:17] <navreet> sethk, (I am talking about Ubuntu... and by being broken, I am talking about relativeness)
[06:17] <sethk> Ej25goddess, you are doing a network boot?
[06:17] <Ej25goddess> and I have to go into the settings and select eth1 and activate iit each time
[06:18] <chaumurky> ahh, the wireless setup. out of my league on that. not doing very well am I? hehe.
[06:18] <Ej25goddess> no I iama nont
[06:18] <sethk> Ej25goddess, then it doesn't boot "using" anything
[06:18] <Ej25goddess> when it boots, thats the connection it is trying to use
[06:18] <orkin\a> sethk, how do you suggest I solve this problem?
[06:18] <sethk> orkin, which video card are you using?
[06:18] <Ej25goddess> I want it to use the other one, since thats the one that works :D
[06:18] <orkin\a> just a secomd l;et me go get o nthe linux comp
[06:19] <orkin\a> it wil ltake longer than a second it wil ltake foreevver
[06:19] <bimberi> Ej25goddess: something to try - see if you can determine which module is loaded for the wrong device (dmesg|grep eth) and add that module to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[06:19] <sethk> Ej25goddess, I would make eth0 into eth1, and eth1 into eth0.  It's a little tricky but it can be done
[06:19] <Ej25goddess> how would I go about doing that
[06:19] <navreet> sethk, I couldn't find kcontrol in the menu... artsd was taking up 99% CPU, etc.
[06:19] <Ej25goddess> I have a lot of windows experience, but almost no linux knowledge
[06:19] <sethk> navreet, that's odd.  I've run KDE with ubuntu, and I see only a small problem with a couple of fonts
[06:20] <txberiu> hey.. my Gnome won't start anymore and deleting all .ICE files didn't help.. any ideas what I can do?
[06:20] <sethk> navreet, artsd takes less than 1% cpu
[06:20] <dabaR> txberiu: what error do you get?
[06:20] <sethk> navreet, so for some reason your KDE setup isn't right.
[06:20] <orkin> `ok, now I'm on ubuntu talking to you through x-chat
[06:20] <grassh> i just installed xfce4 through synaptic... how do I enable it?
[06:20] <atrolinux> is there a gui for subversion that'll work on ubuntu?
[06:20] <sethk> orkin, ok, I asked what video card you have
[06:21] <Ej25goddess> my other quesstion, is swhy my mouse is being goofy
[06:21] <wastrel> orkin:  do glxinfo | grep direct
[06:21] <Ej25goddess> if move the pointer across the screen
[06:21] <Ej25goddess> it moves slowly
[06:21] <Ej25goddess> pauses
[06:21] <Ej25goddess> then continues
[06:21] <Ej25goddess> even if I have a constant movement
[06:21] <txberiu> dabaR: _IceTransTransNoListen: unable to find transport: tcp
[06:21] <txberiu> dabaR: lots of _IceTrans stuff
[06:21] <sethk> Ej25goddess, either IRQ Problems or the wrong driver for your mouse
[06:22] <orkin> direct rendering: Yes
[06:22] <bimberi> Ej25goddess: clean the wheels that run against the ball (i bet you'll say it's optical :P )
[06:22] <dabaR> txberiu: in a dialog box after you try logging in?
[06:22] <Ej25goddess> its a laptop
[06:22] <Ej25goddess> :)
[06:22] <grassh> i just installed xfce4 through synaptic... how do I enable it? (sry for repeat)
[06:22] <txberiu> dabaR: no, after I log in I get a blank screen and the mouse.. I tried running gnome-session by hand and that's when I get the ICE errors
[06:22] <Ej25goddess> good try though :)
[06:23] <cdubya> grassh, when you login, select session, then xfce
[06:23] <bimberi> Ej25goddess: i thought it was quite lateral :)
[06:23] <sethk> orkin, you should also consider a lower resource desktop, such as fluxbox (there are others as well)
[06:23] <grassh> cdubya: ok thx
[06:23] <cdubya> np
[06:23] <orkin> i like ubuntu and i know it can run faster on my system just please help[ me figure it out
[06:24] <simonvallore> Does anyone know how i can see who is connected to my vnc and disconnect them ?
[06:24] <dabaR> txberiu: try deleting everything in your /tmp folder. Something like sudo rm -r /tmp/* you may get errors about permissions after, let me know. But, I am not 100% sure it will work, but if you dont find a better solution, try that.
[06:24] <txberiu> dabaR: already tried it, didn't help
[06:24] <orkin> how do i find out what video card I have
[06:25] <orkin> or it detects atleast
[06:25] <dabaR> Why is my apache2 not restarting itself?
[06:25] <txberiu> dabaR: I had to restart gdm to get it working but Gnome still wouldn't start
[06:25] <coag> anyone good with dual monitors here, i have a questionf or you, i have the dual monitors set up in X and working, to some extent, how do i make it so X is running on one monitor and CLI in the other?
[06:25] <holy_cow> orkin, what sort of system are you running that on?  how much ram?
[06:25] <dabaR> txberiu: tried deleting some folders under ~/.gnome(ish)
[06:25] <orkin> a dell
[06:25] <orkin> pentium 4
[06:25] <txberiu> dabaR: I was hoping not to lose my settings
[06:25] <orkin> 256mb i htink
[06:25] <cdubya> heh
[06:25] <orkin> how do I find out my ram?
[06:26] <cdubya> yeah, it was kinda funny
[06:26] <txberiu> dabaR: I get the same thing for a new user with no .gnome dires
[06:26] <holy_cow> ah okay just curious, i'veonly seen that on old laptops with 32 megs of ram or less
[06:26] <dabaR> txberiu: ok, then.
[06:26] <holy_cow> then he is right it must be a vid card issue
[06:26] <orkin> how do i resolve it
[06:26] <cdubya> orkin, the video is prolly onboard, yeah?
[06:26] <B-166_ER-X> i installed gphoto2, but gimp still doesnt show any option for digital photos, and it makes an error when trying gphoto2 in terminal,m any1 knows how to work this ?
[06:27] <holy_cow> well you need to make sure you have the right drivers installed for your vid card, what kind of video card do you have?
[06:27] <orkin> yea
[06:27] <cdubya> yuck, and lemme guess, and intel integrated....something or other
[06:27] <coag> i have the dual monitors set up in X and working, to some extent, how do i make it so X is running on one monitor and CLI in the other?
[06:27] <orkin> idk, htf do i find out
[06:27] <orkin> ?
[06:27] <holy_cow> B-166_ER-X, what does gimp haveto do with gphoto2? isn't gphoto2 a standalone app?
[06:27] <txberiu> dabaR: other ideas?
[06:27] <simonvallore> Does anyone know how i can see who is connected to my vnc and disconnect them ?
[06:27] <calc_> regeya: jdub's take on his blog seems pretty good
[06:28] <txberiu> how can I uninstall gnome? does it all depend on a lib or something?
[06:28] <B-166_ER-X> holy_cow,  you can technically, use Gimp to get your photos,
[06:28] <holy_cow> with gphoto?
[06:28] <B-166_ER-X> already done it on another pc
[06:28] <holy_cow> why would you do that?
[06:28] <holy_cow> why not install gtkcam and download the images and then use gimp to edit?
[06:28] <B-166_ER-X> dang.   doenst matter
[06:28] <dabaR> txberiu: no, not really.
[06:28] <B-166_ER-X> even Gphoto doenst work now
[06:28] <cdubya> orkin, what version of ubuntu?
[06:28] <orkin> 5.10
[06:29] <frogzoo> B-166_ER-X: can you script gimp? like, to convert bmp to jpeg, for instance?
[06:29] <cdubya> orkin, System > Administration > Device Manager
[06:29] <B-166_ER-X> dont know
[06:29] <cdubya> orkin, what does it report for video
[06:29] <holy_cow> B-166_ER-X, what are you trying to do exactly?
[06:29] <coag> I guess all the helpers are a bit busy right now
[06:30] <B-166_ER-X> I' Trying to GET my %$&$%? pictures of my kodak DC , by usb cable, but it does NOT detect it, and gphoto have an error, altough, a lusb list the kodak dc-5000
[06:30] <cdubya> coag, sorry no help here
[06:30] <orkin> i cant find the video
[06:30] <thrice`> run top, px aus...see anything stealing a bunch of memory / cpu?
[06:30] <coag> cdubya: well of course there is!
[06:30] <coag> cdubya: just all taken up right now
[06:30] <cdubya> coag, I meant from me...sorry.
[06:30] <TokenBad> I went through cups and added my printer, epson stylus 740, but for some reason it will not work...the test print acts like printing but nothing on page, or it just sits there and does nothing.....
[06:30] <sethk> orkin, do lspci
[06:30] <coag> cdubya: oh it's all good
[06:31] <cdubya> coag, plenty of help here.....
[06:31] <cdubya> heh
[06:31] <holy_cow> B-166_ER-X, try gtkam
[06:31] <B-166_ER-X> just did it
[06:31] <B-166_ER-X> does not show photos
[06:31] <holy_cow> ah
[06:32] <holy_cow> is yoru cam supported?
[06:32] <cdubya> orkin, mine's listed quite a ways down....past the audio, controllers, etc......
[06:32] <B-166_ER-X> well, i have been able to acess them on another ubuntu breezy PC
[06:32] <B-166_ER-X> but for now, the motherboard of the other pc is screwed..so..
[06:32] <holycow> ah ... :/ not sure how much that has to do with ubuntu ...
[06:33] <dabaR> weird. apache2 is not supposed to be ran as root, is it?
[06:33] <B-166_ER-X> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 040a:0131 Kodak Co. DC-5000
[06:33] <B-166_ER-X> its there..
[06:33] <B-166_ER-X> but not quite
[06:33] <Xenguy> dabaR: that sounds odd indeed
[06:33] <dle--> hi Xenguy.
[06:33] <txberiu> so what lib can I remove to uninstall gnome?
[06:33] <dabaR> it is under /usr/sbin
[06:33] <Xenguy> dle--: still up then?  :-)
[06:33] <orkin> 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
[06:33] <orkin> is that it
[06:33] <dle--> oh yes.
[06:34] <dabaR> or some other program is anyhow, apachectl.
[06:34] <cdubya> orkin, sounds like the right one.....
[06:34] <simonvallore> Does anyone know how i can see who is connected to my vnc and disconnect them ?
[06:34] <B-166_ER-X> holy_cow,  i knwo it CAN work, but i dont understand the errors message
[06:34] <quacker> B-166_ER-X, does you camera have removeable media?
[06:34] <orkin> ok now how do i fix it
[06:34] <dle--> Xenguy: I'm fooling around w/ the latest Opera.  Includes IRC now. Quite impresive overall, too.
[06:34] <B-166_ER-X> hm, yes, flash card
[06:34] <simonvallore> !seen simonvallore
[06:34] <ubotu> simonvallore is currently on #ubuntu (11m 3s)
[06:34] <B-166_ER-X> quacker
[06:34] <simonvallore> !seen ubotu
[06:34] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'ubotu', simonvallore
[06:34] <coag> cdubya: google turned up something that smashed my hopes
[06:35] <cdubya> orkin, one of the guys more video savvy prolly ought to help......
[06:35] <cdubya> coag, bummer.
[06:35] <quacker> If so, you can do what I do and mount the media (in my case  compact flash card) and then decode with dcraw
[06:35] <Xenguy> dle--: I of course hate Opera ;-)
[06:35] <cdubya> sorry to hear that
[06:35] <coag> cdubya: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/archive/index.php/t-751.html
[06:35] <B-166_ER-X> Please make sure there is sufficient quoting around the arguments.
[06:35] <quacker> B-166_ER-X,  You will need to copy the partition first
[06:35] <Xenguy> dle--: altho I respect it technically
[06:35] <B-166_ER-X> hee
[06:35] <B-166_ER-X> looks kind -too- complicated
[06:35] <orkin> sethk, 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) is my card
[06:35] <dle--> Xenguy: Well, it has some licensing problems. ;)  But yes, technically it does many things rather well.
[06:35] <simonvallore> Does anyone know how i can see who is connected to my vnc and disconnect them ?
[06:36] <Xenguy> dle--: unless they just went open-source recently, and I didn't hear about it :-)
[06:36] <cdubya> coag, sorry to hear that.
[06:36] <quacker> then you convert the files a few at a time from .RAW format using dcraw (too many and you may hang your machine as decoding is CPU intensive)
[06:36] <coag> cdubya: thanks for being sympathetic :)
[06:36] <atrolinux> is there anything that provides for ubuntu what tortoisesvn does for windows?
[06:37] <techrush> i ran easy ubuntu to try to setup my 3d card.....now my keyboard is all messed up and i cant login to try to fix it becuase i dont havea u key.....plz help
[06:37] <durt> yes opera is good
[06:37] <dabaR> I mean, do I run apachectl as root? It worked that way, and did not when I used no root.
[06:37] <techrush> i must have picked the wrong KB config
[06:37] <techrush> now my u key makes a 4
[06:37] <techrush> :(
[06:37] <Xenguy> dle--: all browsers have been pissing me off recently actually -- I'm actually contemplating just rampage re-installing :P
[06:38] <txberiu> apt-get remove libgnome2-common whee
[06:38] <Khisanth> techrush: sounds like you hit numlock
[06:38] <orkin> hwo knows how to make video cards stop making my system slow?
[06:38] <techrush> my laptop doesnt have a numlock
[06:38] <Khisanth> at least that would be the case on this (laptop)keyboard :)
[06:38] <tritium> atrolinux: not sure that that does...try apt-cache search subversion, and look for something similar
[06:38] <B-166_ER-X> quacker, theres gotta be a simpler way, i am able to get the 3 first pics, then it stopp
[06:38] <nevyn> bob2: no joy :(
[06:38] <atrolinux> tritium, been doing that, was hoping somebody would have a solution handy
[06:38] <Xenguy> dle--: but migration is a hassle; still has to been done sometimes
[06:38] <techrush> i did select the option on easy ubuntu to turn numlock on on boot
[06:38] <techrush> how do i turn it off
[06:38] <techrush> :(
[06:39] <nevyn> I might try a x86 kernel 60% performance boost for the second cpu > 30% performance boost for amd64
[06:39] <quacker> B-166_ER-X, sorry, that's how I do it with an Olympus E-300 that's all I know
[06:39] <bimberi> simonvallore: "ps aux | grep vnc" find out which display it is (eg. :2), then "sudo vncserver -kill :2"
[06:39] <simonvallore> how do i kill a connection
[06:39] <simonvallore> i got the netstat on it
[06:39] <Khisanth> techrush: you could rerun the program and turn that option off
[06:39] <Xenguy> simonvallore: kill -9
[06:40] <techrush> Khisanth: i cant run any programs becausxe i cant login
[06:40] <orkin> can anyone helpo me with my video card
[06:40] <techrush> Khisanth: i need the U key because its in my user name techrUsh
[06:40] <techrush> :(
[06:40] <wuming> where does ubuntu better than debian
[06:40] <bimberi> simonvallore: the sudo vncserver -kill :<display> shoulk kill the connection
[06:40] <Khisanth> hrm
[06:41] <techrush> i can see this light on my laptop that indicates numlock is on
[06:41] <bimberi> *shoud
[06:41] <techrush> their must be a way to disable it
[06:41] <bimberi> bah
[06:41] <Xenguy> wuming: my KISS formula says Ubu/desktop and Deb/server :-)
[06:41] <calc_> wuming: desktop integration
[06:41] <Khisanth> you could log in from the console
[06:42] <techrush> i cant login
[06:42] <Khisanth> techrush: it has a light for it but no key?!
[06:42] <techrush> yes
[06:42] <Siph0n> is there any way to see which packages take up the most space?
[06:42] <newbc> anyone know if linux has a divx codec
[06:42] <Khisanth> that is a very odd keyboard
[06:42] <newbc> sorry ubuntu
[06:42] <bimberi> !degian
[06:42] <ubotu> bimberi: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:42] <bimberi> !debian
[06:42] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[06:42] <Khisanth> newbc: mplayer should work
[06:42] <newbc> k
[06:42] <newbc> thanks
[06:43] <techrush> oh wait
[06:43] <techrush> i found the key!
[06:43] <techrush> phgewwwww
[06:43] <dderr> can I comment out the cdrom line from apts sources.list file w/out suffering?
[06:43] <nalioth> dderr: of course you can.
[06:43] <techrush> i was being dumb sorry for bothering you guys
[06:43] <dderr> I would like ubuntu to quit asking me for a cdrom
[06:43] <bimberi> dderr: yes, that's fine
[06:43] <orkin> plz does anyoine know how I can stop my video card from making my 3whole system slow?
[06:43] <techrush> was scary for a moment though :)
[06:44] <jbroome> dderr: yes, go ahead
[06:44] <dderr> thx for the help
[06:44] <bimberi> dderr: it's a good idea if bandwidth isn't an issue for you :)
[06:44] <WebMaven> orkin: it may involve using nipple clamps and holy water.
[06:44] <simonvallore> is there a way i can view my connections and kill them ?
[06:45] <orkin> ok
[06:45] <Xenguy> simonvallore: netstat or lsof
[06:45] <Siph0n> if i use Gnome, can i uninstall nething to do with KDE? like kdesktop?
[06:45] <Xenguy> simonvallore: 'slay' will kill a particular User
[06:46] <newbc> anyone know a good divx player besides mplayer, cuz for some reason i cant install it from the add applications menu
[06:47] <navreet> newbc, gxine
[06:47] <newbc> ok
[06:47] <techrush> vlc
[06:47] <coag> vlc
[06:47] <jbroome> vlc
[06:47] <simonvallore> wtf is lsof
[06:48] <thrice`> simonvallore: it'll list processes using stuff....say lsof /dev/dsp will tell ya what's using /dev/dsp
[06:48] <newbc> k cool installing vlc right now
[06:48] <newbc> thanks guys
[06:48] <thrice`> will vlc do .mov?
[06:48] <dabaR> w32codecs will
[06:48] <simonvallore> no i mean a remote connection is there anything to view them and kill them
[06:48] <bimberi> Siph0n: uninstalling libqt3-mt will take out anything KDE.  although that will include things like k3b (in case that's important to you)
[06:49] <dderr> so is it ok if i just uncomment all the lines w/ universe in my source.list also?
[06:49] <bur[n] er> anyone have a vmware player .deb?
[06:49] <dderr> i keep screwing up apt, that is why i am asking.
[06:50] <thrice`> will vlc recognize w32codecs?
[06:50] <Xenguy> simonvallore: I believe I know what you meant; tried netstat?
[06:50] <bur[n] er> thrice`: vlc uses its own libs afaik
[06:50] <thrice`> so, vlc wont' integrate to play apple trailers eh?
[06:51] <Siph0n> lol not that, but i noticed klibido would also go off which i use
[06:51] <xandrix_> howdo i get the default boo splash to work it works by default on my pc but not on my laptop
[06:52] <techrush> thier is a mozilla-vlc plugin in the repos
[06:52] <techrush> i havent tried it yet though
[06:52] <xandrix_> *boot
[06:52] <CaptainMorgan> how do I put aramark on my comp...it's not listed in the synpatic
[06:53] <thrice`> pref. without mplayer