[06:52] <renhoek> my installer just lockes up evertime i try to manually partition
[06:52] <kohr_> Edlin what do you mean doesn;t last long?
[06:52] <darks> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37601/
[06:52] <finalbeta> there is no reason to push something non standard onto a user like reiser, most distro's using reiserFS are going back to ext3 anyway.
[06:52] <EdLin> kohr_: it loses data
[06:53] <bcm43xx-fwcutter> Well
[06:53] <kohr_> theilliniguy, no for mplayer sorry,
[06:53] <FirstStrike> mm
[06:53] <FirstStrike> what's the trigger..
[06:53] <kohr_> theilliniguy its on the restricted format list
[06:53] <FirstStrike> !win32
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <EdLin> kohr_: the performance increase for many small files is negligable.
[06:53] <theilliniguy> Kohr ok I'll try that
[06:53] <LjL> !seveas | for win32codecs
[06:53] <ubotu> for win32codecs: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:53] <kohr_> theilliniguy https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:53] <bcm43xx-fwcutter> I can't connect to the internet with a wired connection
[06:54] <bcm43xx-fwcutter> my only alternative is this broadcam wireless chipset
[06:54] <Okt> Gnome is now giving me errors about "cannot open display" any idea what I can do to resolve this?
[06:54] <renhoek> right now i am running fedora...and gparted doesnt recognize my harddrive formating for one of my drives...is this the problem
[06:54] <kohr_> EdLin Darn it, is it really that bad?
[06:54] <EdLin> kohr_: well, it works for a while, then it hicups. At least, that was my experience with it.
[06:54] <kohr_> EdLin what happened when it hiccuped? you lost data?
[06:54] <finalbeta> kohr_, it also doesn't seem to have much of a future. And ext does.
[06:54] <bcm43xx-fwcutter> I'm having trouble finding out which fwcutter file i need to download from  I'm currently trying to figure out which file i need to download from http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=4547 in order to swap it from this computer to my wireless remote computer
[06:55] <EdLin> renhoek: just delete all your Linux partitions if you can.
[06:55] <justsee> Hi I'm doing a manual partition of Ubuntu - and googling hasn't helped: 90 GB available: thinking / - 10GB, /swap - 1.5GB (got 768 MB RAM), /usr/ 5 GB, /var/ 5 GB, /boot/ - 250MB, /tmp/ - 2GB, /home/- the rest - is this sensible or just silly?!
[06:55] <EdLin> kohr_: precisely
[06:55] <kohr_> finalbeta, yeah with its founder being arrested for murdur
[06:55] <renhoek> shouldnt the ubuntu just recognize them anyways?
[06:55] <EdLin> renhoek: Red Hat and Fedora label the partitions, making it difficult to share them.
[06:56] <renhoek> is that why ubuntu locks up everytime i want to manually edit the partitions before install?
[06:56] <finalbeta> kohr_, even before that. I think it was opensuse or mandrake that where the latest to return back to ext3, since ext4 will pretty much be the update of choice.
[06:56] <EdLin> renhoek: it could - I don't have experience with gparted and Fedora
[06:56] <kohr_> finalbeta is there a way to switch now? or is it too late?
[06:57] <EdLin> renhoek: I did have problems installing another distro even after shrinking the parititions of RH with Partition Magic, due to the labels.
[06:57] <renhoek> i just don't want to format my fedora off, if that isnt the problem and i am left with no os
[06:57] <bcm43xx-fwcutter> so no1 in here can help me with my wireless problem?
[06:57] <finalbeta> kohr_, no idea, never really did touch reicerFS
[06:57] <renhoek> ahh
[06:58] <kohr_> fwcutter what was it again?
[06:58] <kohr_> finabeta oh darn
[06:58] <renhoek> but i should be able to format in the livecd gparted, before installing?
[06:59] <christiane> bcm43xx-fwcutter: Which chip?
[06:59] <EdLin> renhoek: maybe you should try the alternate install iso
[06:59] <finalbeta> kohr_, http://bozziesfw.wordpress.com/2006/12/11/convert-home-from-reiserfs-to-ext3/ (seems it was openSuse that switched :) ) , one tip though. BACKUP!
[06:59] <kohr_> finalbeta do you think i should switch? is it really worth it right now?
[07:00] <Jesse> does anyone know what SDL is?
[07:00] <finalbeta> kohr_, I can't comment on that. it would only be an opinion based on pretty much nothing :p
[07:00] <Jesse> !SDL
[07:00] <alsa> any one know how to install themes for beryl
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SDL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <EdLin> !info SDL
[07:00] <ubotu> Package sdl does not exist in any distro I know
[07:01] <EdLin> !info SDL-image
[07:01] <finalbeta> symetric describr line?
[07:01] <alsa> ?
[07:01] <ubotu> Package sdl-image does not exist in any distro I know
[07:01] <Jesse> see what i mean
[07:01] <EdLin> !info libsdl
[07:01] <ubotu> Package libsdl does not exist in any distro I know
[07:01] <kraut> moin
[07:01] <EdLin> !info libsdl-image
[07:01] <justsee> hi can anyone advise a sensible partition size for /tmp/, /usr/, /var/ and /boot/ for 90 GB drive?
[07:01] <renhoek> edlin: thats what i was thinking
[07:01] <ubotu> Package libsdl-image does not exist in any distro I know
[07:01] <Jesse> !SDL-CONFIG
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SDL-CONFIG - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <EdLin> ubotu: sorry for the bot abuse ;)
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry for the bot abuse ;) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:02] <Stormx2> Can I change ubuntu's behviour like this: Clicking inside a window will not bring it to front, only clicking the titlebar will do that.
[07:02] <renhoek> but isnt the alternative just a nongraphical interface?
[07:02] <finalbeta> Jesse, what are you looking for SDL can mean a number of things.
[07:02] <EdLin> renhoek: it has more disk formatting features
[07:02] <Jesse> i need it for dosbox
[07:02] <kohr_> how do i search using the ls command?  i have been using ls |grep, but it doesn't tell me the directory the file is in
[07:02] <christiane> bcm43xx-fwcutter: Which chip? `lspci | grep  Broadcom`
[07:02] <EdLin> Jesse: then apt-get install dosbox
[07:02] <Stormx2> How can I reformat my swap partition? It got screwed up.
[07:02] <finalbeta> kohr_, man find
[07:02] <LjL> kohr_: what about using "find" or "locate"?
[07:02] <kohr_> oh
[07:02] <Jesse> it says that is needs for dosbox
[07:02] <kohr_> cool
[07:02] <theilliniguy> kohr - total newb! i'm downloading the mplayer w32 codecs- will that process self install or do I need to do something next?
[07:03] <kohr_> thanks finalbeta and Ljl
[07:03] <stefg> !libsdl1.2debian | Jesse
[07:03] <ubotu> libsdl1.2debian: Simple DirectMedia Layer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 20 kB, installed size 60 kB
[07:03] <Stormx2> theilliniguy: Surely just "sudo apt-get install w32codecs"
[07:03] <finalbeta> !restricted
[07:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:03] <EdLin> Jesse: synaptic, apt-get, and aptitude all will take care of downloading the dependencies. Just turn on all the repositories.
[07:03] <Jesse> i already have the sorce code downloaded
[07:03] <Kosiarz> Hi all
[07:03] <kohr_> theilliniguy, i just did this yesterday, i think it will work automaticly if you follow the directions on the page i gave you
[07:03] <Stormx2> Hi Kosiarz
[07:03] <EdLin> Jesse: you don't want to compile it from source in a package-centric distro.
[07:03] <kohr_> theillinuguy it won't play stuff with DRM though
[07:04] <finalbeta> theilliniguy,  : wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb
[07:04] <Stormx2> Jesse: What are you installing? dosbox? Its in the repos
[07:04] <finalbeta> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb
[07:04] <theilliniguy> kohr ok m- i did go to that page and copy past the whole line of text
[07:04] <kohr_> theilliniguy
[07:04] <kohr_> yeah
[07:04] <finalbeta> theilliniguy, those two lines will install them for you.
[07:04] <Stormx2> Whats wrong with the w32codecs in the repos?!!
[07:04] <LjL> that there is none?
[07:04] <Stormx2> Really?
[07:04] <finalbeta> Stormx2, they can't be inside the repositories, because they can be considered illigal
[07:04] <Stormx2> Damn I was sure it was there.
[07:04] <Stormx2> Oh maybe it was just in Seveas's repos
[07:04] <LjL> yeah
[07:05] <LjL> !info w32codecs
[07:05] <ubotu> w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (edgy-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)
[07:05] <finalbeta> it's basically the windows codecs delivered with windows, you can't redistribute them.
[07:05] <LjL> !seveas
[07:05] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:05] <Stormx2> I haven't seen Seveas in ages... where is he? o.o
[07:05] <LjL> here
[07:05] <renhoek> k, thanks for your help edlin
[07:05] <theilliniguy> final - kohr - got asked for passwrod - i thype mine then got this message:  status database area is locked by another process
[07:06] <christiane> Did anyone manage to get Cinelerra to run on ubuntu? I downloaded it but doesn't even `./configure` ("[: 31: ==: unexpected operator   ---   ./configure: 47: Syntax error: Bad fd number").
[07:06] <EdLin> renhoek: np
[07:07] <Rug> Is there a lamp meta-package that i can install?
[07:07] <snook353> using alien to convert noarch.rpm.  what does this mean:
[07:07] <snook353>  Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID b56a8bac
[07:07] <Montaro> Hmm anyone reported any issues with the latest apache2/php5 packages in fiesty? everytime i try to access apache, i get a blank page and this in error.log: [Mon Dec 18 04:05:44 2006]  [notice]  child pid 5643 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)
[07:07] <[sYn] > Does anyone know what the audo player in this picture is ?   http://www.xfce-look.org/content/pre2/49904-2.png
[07:07] <stefg> !lamp
[07:07] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:08] <kohr_> hey theCore
[07:08] <Montaro> stefg: was that directed at me?
[07:08] <theCore> kohr_: hello
[07:09] <stefg> Montaro: were you asking fot the lamp-metapackage?
[07:09] <kohr_> theCore, you wouldn't happen to be named after the core media player would you?
[07:09] <Rug> I was asking about lamp
[07:09] <james296> why am I unable to add anything to the system startup?
[07:09] <Montaro> no? heh sorry, i did ask about apache/php though. different question however :P
[07:09] <james296> how can I fix that?
[07:09] <stefg> !lamp | rug
[07:09] <ubotu> rug: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:09] <Rug> [sYn] : perhaps rythmbox?
[07:09] <theilliniguy> finalbeta - got asked for passwrod - i typed mine then got this message:  status database area is locked by another process
[07:09] <jrib> james296: have you checked your permissions on stuff in HOME
[07:09] <Rug> stefg: thanks
[07:09] <theCore> kohr_: no :)
[07:09] <[sYn] > Rug, tnanks, ill go check it out and see if thats the one :)
[07:10] <Phreddy_Pfander> quit *sleepun*
[07:10] <snook353> i'm gonna uninstall it, and install a diff package
[07:10] <finalbeta> theilliniguy, make sure you close all other package managers like synaptic before the dpkg command
[07:10] <theilliniguy> kohr got asked for password - i typed mine then got this message:  status database area is locked by another process
[07:10] <theilliniguy> finalbeta ok
[07:10] <finalbeta> theilliniguy, you can only have one open because it would corrupt the database of installed packages
[07:10] <Rug> I have just installed dapper on a dual-cpu/dual-core Opteron Tyan system.  Should I use "linux-image-2.6.15-27-k7" or "linux-image-2.6.15-27-server" for my kernel?
[07:11] <james296> yes and its all ok
[07:11] <mikebot> Does anyone think they can help me getting ubuntu connecting to the internet if is use DSL?
[07:11] <jrib> james296: what did you check?
[07:11] <mnoir> !dsl
[07:11] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[07:11] <james296> I right clicked in the Home folder and clicked properties and went to the Permissions tab
[07:12] <theilliniguy> finalbeta - pasting :~$ sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb gives message :~$ sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb
[07:12] <EdLin> mikebot: it's easy, especially if you have dhcp
[07:12] <Stormx2> What should I use for compiling C++ in ubuntu? cc? gcc?
[07:12] <jrib> james296: stuff /inside/ HOME
[07:12] <mikebot> mnoir: I followed that and got an error.
[07:12] <james296> I JUST formatted this and installed Automatix and installed mostly everything from it
[07:12] <Stormx2> james296: fool :P
[07:12] <LjL> !automatix
[07:12] <theilliniguy> finalbeta: bash: :~$: command not found
[07:12] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:12] <james296> lol HEY
[07:12] <mikebot> EdLin: DO you think you cna walk me through it, because I followed that guide and had problems.
[07:12] <A-L-A-R-M> i tried to install some codecs to play avi files that use the xvid codec, by following the instructions of: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats and  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75278&highlight=wmv+codecs   , did create the /usr/lib/win32 directory, added the codecs from mplayer(hq) in there, also changed the settings of different media players to look for the codecs at this directory. but when i try to open the f
[07:12] <james296> the problem CANT be because of automatix2 can it??
[07:13] <jrib> james296: run this command:   find ~ ! -user $USER
[07:13] <Rug> mikebot: did you try sudo pppeoconf ?
[07:13] <snook353> anyone know, one more time
[07:13] <snook353>  Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID b56a8bac
[07:13] <mikebot> Rug: Yes, and it found eth0, but it gave me the following error...
[07:13] <finalbeta> theilliniguy, paste the command correctly, if sudo is not found, your system would be severely broken. "sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb"
[07:13] <emilia> hey guys, i tried using wine to use dvdshrink, but that and k9copy both crash like half way through, k9copy says makeisoof crashed, anyone know if theres anything else i could use?
[07:13] <EdLin> mikebot: I have dhcp, which is automatically configured - if you use pppoe, you need to use pppoeconf.
[07:13] <ValMarko> Is it safe to use automatix?
[07:13] <nolimitsoya> automatix | ValMarko
[07:13] <Rug> james296: I have never had a problem with Automatix2, but others in this channel say that it is bjorked
[07:13] <LjL> ValMarko: NO
[07:13] <nolimitsoya> !automatix | ValMarko
[07:13] <ubotu> ValMarko: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:13] <mikebot> Rug: 'Sorry, I scanned 1 interface, but the Access Controller of your provider did not respond...'
[07:14] <james296> lol
[07:14] <james296> damnit
[07:14] <mikebot> EdLin: Tried that, but got the above error.
[07:14] <james296> I need to quit usin it then lol
[07:14] <james296> I did that command now what?
[07:14] <finalbeta> Automatix is the script that got blamed for the bad dapper to edgy updates. Apparently it even broke updates on systems where it was never used ;)
[07:14] <EdLin> mikebot: I'm sorry, I've never configured pppoe in Ubuntu since my DSL modem takes care of it.
[07:14] <Rug> mikebot: pppoeconf has always been bullet-proof for me.  I'd check your cables, NIC, modem, etc...
[07:14] <theilliniguy> finalbeta closer - got an unpacking and setting up messages
[07:14] <hydrogen> Does the resizer take a while to run in the installer on fat32 partitions?
[07:15] <hydrogen> or if its just resizing forever is that indicitave of something going wrong
[07:15] <hydrogen> forever being ~15 minutes so far
[07:15] <mikebot> Rug: everything else is connected properly. (I can boot into windows and connect without problems.)
[07:15] <finalbeta> theilliniguy, then it's installed
[07:15] <james296> hey, if I uninstall Automatix 2 think that would solve my problem?
[07:15] <nolimitsoya> hydrogen, resizing is dangerous. yours has likely failed
[07:15] <theilliniguy> finalbeta - got it!  video works - thanks all!!
[07:15] <Rug> mikebot: is it using USB or a NIC?
[07:15] <LjL> i don't think so
[07:15] <mikebot> Rug: I don't know what that means.
[07:15] <CoderX> can anyone help me Gparted can't resize my NTFS partitions anymore.
[07:15] <finalbeta> hydrogen, resizing can take ages. it needs to move all data up or down.
[07:15] <jrib> james296: no probably not
[07:16] <jrib> james296: you don't even know if it was automatix yet
[07:16] <hydrogen> finalbeta, thank you
[07:16] <james296> so, what can I do then? let me guess, the best option would be to once again reformat...correct?
[07:16] <Rug> mikebot: is the DSl modem connected to your computer via a USB cable/interface, or a network cable/interface?
[07:16] <jrib> james296: no, run my command please
[07:16] <linkbelt238> Can someone help me with the live CD?
[07:16] <james296> well how can I figure that out?
[07:16] <james296> I did
[07:16] <Aar0n444> hi
[07:16] <jrib> james296: what did it say?
[07:16] <PriceChild> !anyone > linkbelt238
[07:16] <tim167> THIS i miss from Windoze: while dragging a file from a folder onto an app > alt+tab can still be used while dragging, to choose the app to drop the file on!
[07:17] <james296> /home/james/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/gedit-root
[07:17] <james296> /home/james/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/root-nautilus-here
[07:17] <james296> /home/james/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/search-here
[07:17] <james296> /home/james/.Trash/1
[07:17] <james296> /home/james/.config/autostart
[07:17] <james296> /home/james/.config/autostart/beagled.desktop
[07:17] <EdLin> mikebot: is it connected with something that usually looks like a somewhat big phone jack, or is it connected with a small rectangle?
[07:17] <jrib> james296: not here...
[07:17] <Rug> !flood
[07:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:17] <nolimitsoya> tim167, file a bugreport
[07:17] <jrib> james296: ls -ld /home/james/.config/autostart    please
[07:17] <james296> sorry
[07:17] <PriceChild> tim167: drag and hold over hte item on the taskbar for a few seconds, then it will change
[07:17] <LjL> tim167: does that fine in KDE ;)
[07:17] <Rug> EdLin: thanks =)
[07:17] <mikebot> EdLin: My configuration is Wall > Phone line > modem > ethernet > computer
[07:17] <tim167> PriceChilde: that's more miles to go with the cursor!
[07:18] <james296> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-12-17 12:22 /home/james/.config/autostart
[07:18] <jrib> james296: that's your permission problem
[07:18] <EdLin> mikebot: OK, ethernet = NIC
[07:18] <Rug> mikebot: is the modem turned on and DSL light "on"?
[07:18] <ricanelite> has anyone here got MOL working? Need help please
[07:18] <mikebot> Rug: Yes
[07:18] <mikebot> Iw as actually just in windows using it fine
[07:18] <nolimitsoya> LjL, have you ever found kde a bit flaky and unstable? 1:5 apps crash on launch for me... xfce/gnome and other gtk wm work just fine. adept is very keen on going belly up, fex
[07:18] <linkbelt238> does anyone know the root password for the live cd?
[07:18] <james296> ok, so what do I do now?
[07:18] <PriceChild> tim167: bit it works ;)
[07:18] <tim167> nolimitsoya: its not a bug, its a 'feature' :p
[07:19] <jrib> james296: since you have a bunch of stuff that is root owned in your home directory, I would recommend:  sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ~
[07:19] <finalbeta> linkbelt238, don't use the root account, use sudo <command>
[07:19] <TehBigToe> guys
[07:19] <CoderX> which decoders do i need to run mp3's on Edgy Eft?
[07:19] <nolimitsoya> tim167, id say it isnt, and well worth a bugreport :)
[07:19] <finalbeta> !sudo > linkbelt238
[07:19] <TehBigToe> I have 2 updates showing in the Update Manager thingy
[07:19] <PriceChild> !codecs CoderX
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codecs CoderX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <LjL> nolimitsoya: the base KDE stuff seems quite stable here. then there are some apps that are on the crashy side... which ones crash for you?
[07:19] <PriceChild> !codecs | CoderX
[07:19] <ubotu> CoderX: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:19] <CoderX> thanks
[07:20] <linkbelt238> I am trying to logon to this computer from another box and need login infor
[07:20] <TehBigToe> guys I have 2 updates but when I click on the Update Manager their size is shown as 0, and when I click Install they come up with a "missing Filename: field" error
[07:20] <PriceChild> CoderX: no problemo
[07:20] <Ratarf> hi
[07:20] <TehBigToe> guys I have 2 updates but when I click on the Update Manager their size is shown as 0, and when I click Install they come up with a "missing Filename: field" error
[07:20] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: click "check" first please... see what that does
[07:20] <nolimitsoya> LjL, seems pretty much random. as i said, adept is extremely flaky, and rarely starts up on the first try. with other qt apps its like tossing a dice. firefox, mozilla and the like work perfectly well though, as do all gtk based apps
[07:20] <TehBigToe> ok PriceChild
[07:20] <linkbelt238> both?
[07:20] <Ratarf> I just compiled a lib... But how do I install it?
[07:20] <mikebot> Rug: EdLin: It got past that part of it when I unplugged/plugged back in the eternet cable
[07:21] <james296> now what?
[07:21] <mikebot> I'm going to try to continue with the prompt...thanks for your help
[07:21] <wasabi_> Ratarf: Where do you want to install it?
[07:21] <Rug> mikebot: good luck
[07:21] <jrib> james296: now try to add stuff to startup
[07:21] <nolimitsoya> LjL, this is the one thing (counting out messy menues) that keeps me from going with kde...
[07:21] <Stormx2> What should I use for compiling C++ in ubuntu? cc? gcc?
[07:21] <EdLin> mikebot: when all else fails, check the cables. :-)
[07:21] <LjL> nolimitsoya: "adept" as in "Add/Remove Applications" is extremely crash here. Adept "proper" didn't seem to crash when i used it, but then i use it very rarely. other apps, well, there's KOffice that is a crash party... but that's not even included by default
[07:21] <wasabi_> Stormx2: g++
[07:21] <Rug> EdLin: somedays you just wanna cry.  =)
[07:21] <james296> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:21] <Ratarf> I just want to be able to use it because it's required for installing another application
[07:21] <Stormx2> wasabi_: How do I use it?
[07:21] <james296> IT WORKED!!!!
[07:21] <wasabi_> Stormx2: man g++
[07:21] <EdLin> Stormx2: still compiling something in the universe repository?
[07:22] <Stormx2> james296, easy baby
[07:22] <james296> THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:22] <jrib> james296: of course :)  don't run programs with sudo unless you need to
[07:22] <LjL> nolimitsoya: messy menus you mean messy control panel / various settings?
[07:22] <LjL> thank him in lowercase please :)
[07:22] <LjL> and when you do, use gksudo if they're GUI programs
[07:22] <TehBigToe> PriceChild, it's got stuck
[07:22] <james296> yeah I know man
[07:22] <TehBigToe> downloading file 25/35
[07:22] <timtrimble> how do I make it so that my s-video port mirrors waht's on the main screen?
[07:22] <EdLin> Rug: setting up DSL was difficult for me too, because Verizon's activation page was IE+Windows only.
[07:22] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: please explain...
[07:22] <wasabi_> Ratarf: What other app? I'm trying to help you decide where you need to put it, which is sort of not written down in stone.
[07:22] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: wait :)
[07:22] <Rug> I have just installed dapper on a dual-cpu/dual-core Opteron Tyan system.  Should I use "linux-image-2.6.15-27-k7" or "linux-image-2.6.15-27-server" for my kernel?
[07:22] <mikebot> EdLin: The question I have now, is it said everythign is fine, but I can't access the interent
[07:22] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: patience :)
[07:22] <mikebot> Does it automatically connect?
[07:22] <EdLin> mikebot: run pon
[07:22] <TehBigToe> and the last 10 or so
[07:22] <wasabi_> rug, depends what you want to do with it
[07:23] <TehBigToe> show "Failed"
[07:23] <wasabi_> rug I believe -k7 is obsoleted.
[07:23] <Rug> wasabi_: I am using Dapper not edgy
[07:23] <wasabi_> Hmm. MIght not be in Dapper.
[07:23] <wasabi_> Yeah. Dunno.
[07:23] <Oliverro> How can I boot on command line with ubuntu 6.10 ?
[07:23] <Rug> Edgy = too bugy for me
[07:23] <wasabi_> -server has more in it than just opteron stuff. It's got modules for clustered file systems and the like.
[07:23] <timtrimble> how do I make it so that my s-video port mirrors what's on the main screen?  I have it set up for them to be two different screens, but I want it to be the same for both.
[07:23] <Rug> wasabi_: this is just a workstation
[07:23] <PriceChild> Rug: then run Dapper
[07:24] <wasabi_> Then just put in -k7
[07:24] <EdLin> I actually had more luck with Edgy, I wish it were the LTS distro.
[07:24] <Rug> wasabi_: ok thanks
[07:24] <wasabi_> PriceChild: welcome to the middle of the conversation
[07:24] <Rug> =)
[07:24] <Ratarf> but thats what the problem is... I compiled libphysfs, so I have a bunch of files, but now I want to install it as if it were installed with the synaptic package manager. I don't know in what folder to put it
[07:24] <TehBigToe> PriceChild, now the Updates window has greyed out and the cursor goes to the Busy one when I hover over it, but there's no dialogs saying what it's doing or anything...
[07:24] <wasabi_> Ratarf: make install DESTDIR=/usr/local, or /opt/whatever
[07:24] <wasabi_> Ratarf: Do not install it in /usr
[07:24] <nolimitsoya> LjL, ive never used the add/remove thing; only the synaptic like interface. its, as i said, extremely flaky. kde is the same on every machine i own, all exept one being athlonxp class processors and the other being a p3. menu layout is terrible, and the amount of clutter with a standard kubuntu/full kde install is amazing. equaly flaky with either kde and kde-core though...
[07:25] <Stormx2> wasabi_: Bleh there aren't any examples? Could you possibly just give me an example line?
[07:25] <christopherl> "After installation, make sure that the directory containing the installed executables (ActiveTcl/bin) is included in your PATH variable." Where can I change the PATH variable so I can run the program?
[07:25] <EdLin> Ratarf: during ./configure use --prefix=/usr/local
[07:25] <aquarius> Is there a master list somewhere of all the binary firmware in the Ubuntu kernel?
[07:25] <Stormx2> wasabi_: Something like "gcc file.cc" would work?
[07:25] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: patience :)
[07:25] <Rug> nolimitsoya: fluxbox as your WM with KDE under the hood makes for one nice system
[07:25] <wasabi_> Stormx2: There are probably hundreds of examples. Hell, every C++ app included with Ubuntu is a potential example. ;)
[07:25] <nolimitsoya> LjL, one thing i realy do love (and hate the lack of in gnome) is the ability to have an xfce/fluxbox like apps menu on rightclicking the desktop. speeds things up a great deal :)
[07:25] <TehBigToe> again?
[07:25] <Stormx2> wasabi_: Bleh
[07:25] <EdLin> Stormx2: is there any particular reason why you're avoiding using the repositories?
[07:26] <nolimitsoya> Rug, how does that work?
[07:26] <Stormx2> wasabi_: I just want to compile a hello world program damnit xD
[07:26] <LjL> nolimitsoya: "synaptic like"? never seen such a thing :-P a lot of people probably wouldn't mind getting that, actually
[07:26] <wasabi_> Stormx2: It can't be more than a two second read of the man page.
[07:26] <Stormx2> EdLin: I'm writing the code.
[07:26] <EdLin> Stormx2: Oh, OK, I must be confusing you with someone else.
[07:26] <Stormx2> wasabi_: The manpage is huge, man ;)
[07:26] <Stormx2> I'll look again tho.
[07:26] <wasabi_> hmm. true.
[07:26] <EdLin> !build-essential | Stormix2
[07:26] <ubotu> Stormix2: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:26] <wasabi_> gcc file.cc -o outname
[07:26] <Rug> nolimitsoya: Fluxbox gives you ZERO clutter.  KDE as the back-end gives you the excellent app compatability
[07:26] <wasabi_> And you need various options to make it ELF i think
[07:26] <emilia> anyone reccomend something to backup dvd movies other than wine and dvdshrink & k9copy ?
[07:26] <Fleebailey33> printf hello worlf
[07:26] <Fleebailey33> world
[07:27] <nolimitsoya> LjL, ive never actualy seem anything resembling add/remove programs in kde, but what comes up when doing gksu adept looks pretty much like synaptictome :)
[07:27] <LjL> nolimitsoya: as for the clutter... well, the basic, standard KDE stuff (kdesktop, konqueror etc) is as cluttered as it can get, true. on the other hand, a few "third-party" (or almost) applications imho tend to be *less* cluttered than the GNOME equivalents
[07:27] <Rug> emilia: do you want to rip or copy?
[07:27] <Fleebailey33> emilia, none can do across
[07:27] <LjL> nolimitsoya, err, K / Add/Remove Programs :)
[07:27] <Fleebailey33> arcoss
[07:27] <Fleebailey33> on linux
[07:27] <TehBigToe> PriceChild,  now my patience is running out :\
[07:27] <snook353> !fetchmail
[07:27] <ubotu> fetchmail: SSL enabled POP3, APOP, IMAP mail gatherer/forwarder. In component main, is optional. Version 6.3.4-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 332 kB, installed size 1628 kB
[07:27] <emilia> Rug : rip to iso, preferably compress also, the way dvdshrink does
[07:27] <nolimitsoya> Rug, i got that part, but how does one go about setting that up? or do you mean just using fluxbox as session?
[07:28] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: alt tab to make sure t here's nothing hiding beneath
[07:28] <Rug> emilia: acidRip
[07:28] <Fleebailey33> but lxcopy is good all in one
[07:28] <aquarius> emilia: what's up with k9copy?
[07:28] <snook353> !fetchyahoo
[07:28] <ubotu> fetchyahoo: Retrieve mail from Yahoo!'s webmail service. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.10.2-1 (edgy), package size 38 kB, installed size 180 kB
[07:28] <TehBigToe> no PriceChild, nothing
[07:28] <Rug> nolimitsoya: Fluxbox as the session will do the trick
[07:28] <nolimitsoya> LjL, completely missed it :P and i was giving kubuntu feisty another whirl just last night :/
[07:28] <emilia> aquarius :  k9copy always crashes making the iso
[07:28] <nolimitsoya> Rug, then im with you. i might try that :)
[07:28] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: please be patient then :)
[07:28] <aquarius> emilia: oh. OK. I can see how that would be a problem. Doesn't do that for me. :)
[07:29] <Stormx2> EdLin: I already have build-essential, and I'm pretty sure you need makefiles and stuff for using "make"
[07:29] <emilia> aqaurius : youre probly in kde?
[07:29] <Rug> nolimitsoya: It's my favorite combination.
[07:29] <A-L-A-R-M> under which directory can i find the file which includes the url with the repos ?
[07:29] <LjL> nolimitsoya: also if Konqueror and its menus are too messy for your tastes, there's Dolphin that's a much simpler file manager, much like Nautilus i think
[07:29] <Fleebailey33> i like lxcopy
[07:29] <Rug> right-click "Start-menu" = Heaven
[07:29] <nolimitsoya> LjL, ill check it out. thank you :)
[07:29] <EdLin> Stormx2: most of the time those are automatically created with autoconf making a configure file
[07:29] <LjL> nolimitsoya: also if you base your stability statistics on Feisty, well :-P
[07:30] <Rug> nolimitsoya: check out the gentoo fluxbox screenshots and check-out conky too.
[07:30] <aquarius> emilia: nope, Gnome. When I installed k9copy I assume it pulled in the dependencies it required...
[07:30] <LjL> nolimitsoya: about menus, what i really do like about KDE is mac-style menubar
[07:30] <nolimitsoya> LjL, i was just going to say im not :P this is my experience with kde and kubuntu since dapper :)
[07:30] <LjL> hope that's not going away in KDE 4
[07:30] <PriceChild> A-L-A-R-M: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:30] <A-L-A-R-M> thanks
[07:31] <PriceChild> A-L-A-R-M: please use the software sources program to edit it though
[07:31] <Rug> If you want to see a HORRIBLE kde menu layout, checkout the newest OpenSuse Live CD.
[07:31] <A-L-A-R-M> okie
[07:31] <defrysk> ah kickoff ?
[07:31] <LjL> Rug: well if you mean "menu" as in "the list of applications etc", at least that's very easily changeable so in the end who cares
[07:32] <Rug> LjL: no, it's so bad its funny.  You gotta see it.
[07:32] <nevron> can somebody help me config my dual heads
[07:32] <TehBigToe> PriceChild, still waiting...
[07:32] <nevron> ?
[07:32] <defrysk> about kickoff : http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/?s=kickoff
[07:32] <Stormx2> my hello world program didn't work XD~~
[07:32] <Stormx2> I suck.
[07:32] <nevron> ?
[07:33] <LjL> Rug: i haven't seen the newest one, i suppose, but the one i've seen looked much like Windows XP - one huge menu (a dialog window, really, wider than high) with just about everything on it
[07:33] <er4z0r> hi everybody
[07:33] <EdLin> Stormx2: gcc -o hello hello.c
[07:33] <Fleebailey33> experiences dual booters here?
[07:33] <Stormx2> EdLin: Thats for C++, correct?
[07:34] <er4z0r> can somebody help me with greasemonkey , tails export and firefox?
[07:34] <EdLin> Stormx2: same flags, but maybe use g++
[07:34] <ValMarko> is it safe to install and use easyubuntu to activate plugins ?
[07:34] <hydrogen> heh
[07:34] <EdLin> Stormx2: make files aren't made by humans anymore, they are made with autoconf
[07:34] <Rug> LjL: what makes it bad, is how you move "forward and Back" between different sub-menus
[07:34] <buckweat420> Whats up all?
[07:34] <hydrogen> what exactly would make a hello world program worthy of using c++
[07:34] <Stormx2> EdLin: Okay
[07:34] <Stormx2> EdLin: Well that didn't work either btw...
[07:35] <A-L-A-R-M> mplayer to be installed it says on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer to install it from multiserv repo.  as much i see in my repo list i have a main restricted universe multiverse . is that the same repo ? (if yes somehow i dont see the mplayer package to install it)
[07:35] <EdLin> Stormx2: what is your command line?
[07:35] <Fleebailey33> i installed windows first on a 30 gig partion becuase i would have to reinstall grub anyway
[07:35] <Stormx2> Basicly it's having trouble with #include <iostream> I think
[07:35] <Fleebailey33> and im waiting for that
[07:35] <LjL> Rug: honestly i rarely use the menu anyway... the applications i use 95% of the time are in the quicklauncher (which is nice enough to guess them for me), and the rest i mostly launch using the terminal, or katapult
[07:36] <longwayoff> When ripping CDs using sound juicer to OGG format is there a varible setting like when ripping mp3s? You know like 128, 192, 256 ect?
[07:36] <Fleebailey33> katapult!=quicksilver!
[07:36] <Arigato> is gaim on the live cd?
[07:36] <bruenig> Arigato, yes
[07:36] <Stormx2> Arigato, yes
[07:36] <Stormx2> EdLin: Any suggestions? I'm not sure what I should be including as for libs (or whatever they are)
[07:37] <EdLin> Stormx2: are you using a namespace? If not, you'll need std::
[07:37] <EdLin> Stormx2: /j ##c++
[07:37] <Stormx2> EdLin: using namespace std;
[07:37] <drcode> hi all
[07:37] <Rug> longwayoff: yes, but the scale is like 1-5  (1 being poor, 5 being best)
[07:37] <bruenig> !hi | drcode
[07:37] <ubotu> drcode: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:37] <drcode> I have an old nvidgia 200 card
[07:37] <drcode> nvidia mx 200
[07:38] <drcode> I have video out cable
[07:38] <longwayoff> Rug: I assume as you go up to best the file size gets much larger
[07:38] <drcode> how I can change into video?
[07:38] <unnutz> hello, I would like to know where my BitchX config files are stored & how to disable automatic connection to ubuntu irc server :D
[07:39] <|markie|> bah... cant get xen-machine with ubuntu working
[07:39] <Rug> longwayoff: yes, but .ogg song quality is EXCELLENT.   A 1 or 2 sounds as good as 192kbs MP3
[07:39] <drcode> any idea?
[07:40] <drcode> how I can tell linux to move into nvidia video output?
[07:40] <longwayoff> Rug: Thanks
[07:40] <Okt> How would one use "--purge"
[07:40] <longwayoff> okay now whats better a torrent download or a magnet download?
[07:40] <bruenig> unnutz, it would seem ~/.BitchX would be the place but for whatever reason it doesn't look like it is
[07:40] <Rug> Okt: apt-get remove application --purge
[07:40] <blue-frog> Okt: apt-get remove program --purge
[07:40] <snook353> !spool
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spool - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <rambo3> bones in my sudzuk
[07:40] <[sYn] > Does anyone know what the audo player in this picture is ?   http://www.xfce-look.org/content/pre2/49904-2.png
[07:40] <Okt> Thanks
[07:41] <unnutz> bruenig, aha, & there's not any file like .bitchxrc :(
[07:41] <Rug> longwayoff: torrent  (thatMagnet thing is for Azereus (sp?)
[07:41] <Rug> blue-frog: =) beat ya!
[07:41] <minerale> Is anyone else having trouble with apt-get packages? all of them are giving me seg faults
[07:41] <nevron> is there anyone using dual head big desktop with ati drivers and has direct rendering enabled?
[07:41] <longwayoff> Rug is there a way to speed torrents up? They seem to be so slow
[07:42] <Rug> longwayoff: make sure your upstream bandwith isn't saturated
[07:42] <Montaro> minerale: im having the same problems..
[07:42] <Montaro> minerale: not all of them, but ive noticed php seg faults, and apache has gone a little crazy
[07:43] <nevron> is there anyone using dual head big desktop with ati drivers and has direct rendering enabled?
[07:43] <PigDogs> hey all
[07:43] <Montaro> minerale: apt-get dist-upgrade'ed about 1hr or so ago
[07:43] <Rug> ok bye all
[07:43] <PigDogs> can anyone advise about upgrading Ubuntu? What entries have to be hashed out in the repos file?>
[07:43] <Rug> Time for football
[07:43] <nevron> is there anyone using dual head big desktop with ati drivers and has direct rendering enabled??
[07:43] <PigDogs> !upgrade
[07:44] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:44] <minerale> montaro: were you able to fix it ?
[07:44] <nevron> !help
[07:44] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:44] <hydrogen> so uhh
[07:44] <teicah> im going to a dude's house with cable internet.. i want to d/l edgy updates and burn to cd; http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/ doesnt seem to have a link to updates.. where can i find them?
[07:44] <hydrogen> what does it mean if the installer freezes?
[07:44] <Montaro> not as of yet. i've since updated apt again, but no repositories have changed yet.. so guess i just have to wait until they fix it
[07:44] <hydrogen> as in hard lock
[07:45] <nevron> is there anyone using dual head big desktop with ati drivers and has direct rendering enabled??
[07:45] <n2diy> why is a .deb package five times smaller than the equivalent tar.gz package?
[07:45] <Montaro> hydrogen: faulty hardware?
[07:45] <hydrogen> Montaro, I don't believe so, it froze at configuring locales
[07:45] <hydrogen> which just seems odd
[07:45] <Montaro> n2diy: because its in the compiled binary form, not plain text source..
[07:45] <hydrogen> it copied everything
[07:45] <PigDogs> can anyone advise the lines that have to be hashed out before doing apt-get update??? PLEASE
[07:45] <hydrogen> I guess what I'm asking is if I do a hard reboot will it need to start over or can it pick up from where it hung at
[07:45] <bruenig> n2diy, it would depend on the application of course. The tar.gz would have to have configure scripts and stuff. So for small applications, that could make it far larger. But for large applications they should be nearly the same
[07:46] <n2diy> Montaro, ok, I'm trying to get Mondo installed here, and the developers want me to install v.2.20.
[07:46] <Montaro> hydrogen: can you alt+f2 or something to get another terminal and see what happened?
[07:47] <Ratarf> I tried compiling the physfs lib with "make install DESTDIR=/usr/local", it showed no errors or such but it still doesn't show up in synaptic package manager
[07:47] <felixjet> !grub
[07:47] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:47] <bruenig> what is the alternative name for browser. Is it www-browser
[07:47] <hydrogen> Montaro, nah, its hardlock (no keyboard/mouse input) and sounds like everything stopped running in the laptop
[07:47] <hydrogen> the cddrive isn't doing anything
[07:47] <jrib> bruenig: x-www-browser  may be what you want
[07:47] <bruenig> ah x, forgot the x
[07:48] <A-L-A-R-M> for kubuntu 6.10 multiverse repo, do i have to add:deb http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy multiverse ?
[07:48] <felixjet> !mount
[07:48] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:48] <PigDogs> need help with upgrading from 5.10... anyone PLEASE ;-(
[07:48] <nevron> is there anyone using dual head big desktop with ati drivers and has direct rendering enabled?
[07:48] <felixjet> !fstab
[07:48] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[07:49] <Ratarf> I tried compiling the physfs lib with "make install DESTDIR=/usr/local", it showed no errors or such but it still doesn't show up in synaptic package manager.... What should I do to resolve this?
[07:49] <wrathchild9> hello
[07:49] <asia> hello
[07:49] <dfcarney> Ratarf: I just tuned in -- what leads you to believe that it will show up in the package manager?  Furthermore, why do you need it to show up there?
[07:49] <nevron> nobody is using ati drivers dual head setup? i dont believe it therer 966 people in the room
[07:50] <wrathchild9> how I can look, what is charset on samba server?
[07:50] <minerale> Does anyone know how to read strace? -- all the apt-* utilities are choking on the newly downloaded package lists -- I delted them, did apt-get update and they choke: heres a strace of apt-cache search test: http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~achille/apt-cache-strace.txt
[07:50] <dfcarney> nevron: There may be 966 people, but there's probably only 20-30 actually reading and participating.
[07:50] <amro> I'm getting an error when logging into GNOME on Edgy: something about a message bus error
[07:50] <paradox34690> anyone here familiar with setting up a Linksys WUSB54G adapter with 6.10?
[07:51] <wrathchild9> nv ,hgvfgzljvuhg-zhp io
[07:51] <wrathchild9>  gv6plzuojim
[07:51] <wrathchild9> mhz7 ;<{gh76 ecp
[07:51] <hydrogen> thats not english.
[07:51] <Ratarf> I have an autopackage installer for a game. It checks for all required libraries and says "libphysfs" is missing. I can install it from the package manager, but it's an older version. So I grabbed the source of this lib and tried to install it
[07:51] <Reisiger> Good evening everyone. I got a little problem starting the graphical interface to manage grub. Under "System"-> "System-Controll" there is no entry for "Boot" and using the "sudo boot -admin" in a terminal window tells me it doesn't find the command... :-/
[07:51] <theCore> wrathchild9: ?
[07:51] <snook353> anyone help me with fetchyahoo?
[07:51] <snook353> Failed: Couldn't open output: >>/var/spool/mail/chemicalkook at /usr/bin/fetchyahoo line 1423, <STDIN> line 3.
[07:51] <Ratarf> and I thought, if the lib was correctly installed, it would show up in the package manager
[07:52] <theCore> I think we can say hello to wrathchild9's cat :)
[07:52] <PriceChild> !anyone > snook353
[07:52] <dfcarney> minerale: is that strace output with the "follow forks" option enabled?
[07:52] <wrathchild9> theCore: :D
[07:52] <wrathchild9> yes
[07:52] <paradox34690> driver assistance... anyone, anyone??
[07:52] <PriceChild> !anyone > paradox34690
[07:52] <amro> anyone know what could be causing a message bus error when logging into GNOME on edgy?
[07:53] <minerale> dfcarney: i simply did `strace apt-cache search test &> output.txt`
[07:53] <PriceChild> amro: what error?
[07:53] <willys_fueguino> Hi!!!
[07:53] <willys_fueguino> how do I install a file .package???
[07:53] <paradox34690> If thats an offer of assistance, i'll take it PriceChild... :)
[07:53] <dfcarney> minerale: use the -FF option (I believe) in the strace call to follow execution into forks
[07:53] <PriceChild> paradox34690: I may not know... just write the question
[07:53] <moonlite> Ratarf: "correctly installed". The package manager has some sort of database or something to keep track of dependencies and what files belong to which package etc etc. "make install" from a source package basically just copies files to the "correct" places on your harddisk. I'd advise you not to install anything but stuff from ubuntus official repos
[07:54] <amro> PriceChild: im attempting to make it show up, sometimes i see a gray box instead of the error box, but i remember something about failing to map a message bus address
[07:54] <dfcarney> minerale: actually, it may just be -f
[07:54] <Desert88> can anyone here help with beryl?
[07:54] <willys_fueguino> how do I install a file .package???
[07:54] <Ratarf> but I need to install this lib to get the game working
[07:54] <dfcarney> minerale: (I had to boot back into Windows, so I can't check at my prompt)
[07:55] <PriceChild> amro: I've not got a clue what's going on :) - probs won't know the answer either. Would be best to know what you're doing
[07:55] <paradox34690> I just installed 6.10 on a tower, it's wireless and using a Linksys Wireless USB adapter... According to Linksys, they don't have any Linux adapters... obviously, I don't want to have to go buy a new adapter, so I'm looking for help in getting what I have to work...
[07:55] <mhb> hi all
[07:55] <candyban> How come ubuntu edgy won't boot if I have /dev/sd (entire disk)? in my md device rather than /dev/sd?x (partition) ?
[07:55] <Ratarf> the game requires version 1.0.1, and in the repositories the most recent version is 1.0.0
[07:55] <minerale> dfcarney: it's -F, hold on while I upload it
[07:55] <PriceChild> mhb: Hi
[07:55] <willys_fueguino> how do I install a file .package???
[07:55] <mhb> if I want to re-autodetect my graphic card (Xorg.conf rewrite), what should I do?
[07:55] <longwayoff> I cant seem to get my torrent download above 2Kb
[07:55] <PriceChild> mhb: sudo dpkg--reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[07:56] <candyban> must be something in initrd because the setup boots fine in dapper ... and in edgy with dapper kernel
[07:56] <minerale> dfcarney: http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~achille/strace2.txt
[07:56] <snook353> what does fetchyahoo want? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37610/
[07:56] <errorlevel> If I remove ubuntu-desktop, will all the packages that it pulled in still be installed?  I want to remove gnome-btdownload so that I can remove bittorrent and install the .deb file from bittorrent.com.  I just don't want to make anything harder on myself for when it comes time to upgrade.
[07:56] <mhb> PriceChild: thanks
[07:56] <willys_fueguino> how do I install a file .package???
[07:56] <dfcarney> minerale: ugh -- not much more help there.
[07:56] <PriceChild> errorlevel: no
[07:56] <paradox34690> When I open up the networking application, it shows a wireless adapter, I provide my wireless SSID, and I open up my Networking Tools, it shows up in there, but it's not pulling an IP or anything...
[07:56] <paradox34690> any clues?
[07:57] <PriceChild> errorlevel: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package... make sure you install it before upgrades to newer versions, e.g. dapper_.edgy
[07:57] <wrathchild9> I have two PC-s, and on server I have smb share, and on another PC I see it normally, but if I mount it, I don't see hungarian characters
[07:57] <errorlevel> PriceChild: Okay.
[07:57] <dfcarney> minerale: have you looked at "var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy_main_binary-i386_Packages" ?
[07:57] <dfcarney> minerale: are any filesystem errors reported in 'dmesg'?
[07:57] <willys_fueguino> how do I install a file .package???
[07:58] <minerale> dfcarney: I deleted that file, apt-get update re downloads it and then it chokes on it again
[07:58] <wrathchild9> I set guest,iocharset=utf8,codepage=utf8
[07:58] <Slart> Hello.. can someone recommend a good address book application.. preferably one I can share on my lan... integration with thunderbird is also good
[07:58] <candyban> Did anyone setup ati (proprietary driver) + xgl + beryl successfully? (I have a thinkpad T43p and I followed a howto to the letter, but it didn't work)
[07:58] <wrathchild9> but anything isn't ok
[07:58] <wrathchild9> what?
[07:58] <PriceChild> willys_fueguino: i reccomend  installing with .deb if possible
[07:58] <PriceChild> willys_fueguino: are you sure the software isn't availiable as deb?
[07:58] <minerale> dfcarney: nothing serious on dmesg
[07:59] <kane77> how can I set up xchat to automaticaly send the mesage to nickserv??
[07:59] <kane77> at startup
[07:59] <willys_fueguino> PriceChild: It already took like 6 hours to download it
[07:59] <amro> PriceChild: I've just installed Ubuntu Edgy on another laptop. It ran fine with LiveCD, but when I login through the installed one all I see is the background image. When logging in Failsafe Gnome, I get a gray box which sometimes fully renders with the error message
[07:59] <willys_fueguino> (its the vdrift package)
[07:59] <PriceChild> willys_fueguino: what is the software?
[07:59] <lufis> I'm trying to compile an app (VLC) that has a lot of dependencies. I'm compiling the dependencies I want (such as libdvdcss, x264, etc.). Do I need to do anything special to compile -dev versions of the dependencies, or is that taken care of automatically?
[07:59] <dfcarney> minerale: I dunno.  I mean, if you've run 'apt-get clean' and you're still getting the crash then I suggest that you escalate it to a developer in #ubuntu-devel
[07:59] <PriceChild> willys_fueguino: vdrift?
[07:59] <willys_fueguino> PriceChild: Vdrift
[07:59] <willys_fueguino> yeap
[08:00] <PriceChild> amro: what error?
[08:00] <PriceChild> !vdrift
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vdrift - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <unnutz> kane77, X-Chat >> Server List >> Edit.  Ther's Nickserv password textbox
[08:00] <PriceChild> !Vdrift
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Vdrift - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <kane77> unnutz, heh thanx.. I didnt notice there was such a thing... :D
[08:00] <willys_fueguino> PriceChild: vdrift.net
[08:00] <dfcarney> minerale: simply put, it's a SIGSEGV...which could be due to file/data corruption, disk errors, mismatching libraries (doubtful), etc...
[08:01] <willys_fueguino> PriceChild: Im here: http://vdrift.net/faqman/index.php?op=view&t=5
[08:02] <narvik86> willys_fueguino: its autopackage, execute it in console
[08:02] <amro> PriceChild: It logged into GNOME and I can see the panels now, and I got the error, which says that themes/sounds/etc might not work properly (and they don't) because it could not find the address of the message bus
[08:02] <dfcarney> minerale: have you tried using a different sources.list?  Maybe the downloaded file itself is corrupt and when it's parsed it causes an error.
[08:02] <willys_fueguino> narvik86: ./the/dir/tothepackage???
[08:02] <PriceChild> willys_fueguino: there was a deb availiable :( but listen to narvik86 now
[08:02] <minerale> dfcarney: how would I run a fsck? it tells me it's dangerous to do it on a mounted volume -- should I ignore that error ?
[08:03] <amro> it also suggests a couple of manpages (dbus-launch and dbus-daemon) but i haven't found anything useful in them
[08:03] <willys_fueguino> narvik86: didnt worked
[08:03] <dfcarney> minerale: no, don't ignore it.
[08:03] <dfcarney> !fsck | minerale
[08:03] <ubotu> minerale: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[08:03] <minerale> I'll try that, thanks
[08:03] <PriceChild> armo: run gnome-settings-daemon
[08:03] <dfcarney> minerale: odds are that you don't have filesystem corruption.  I suggest that you start by changing your sources.list file to download everything from a different server, run "apt-get clean", and try again.
[08:04] <narvik86> willys_fueguino: if you didnt install any autopackage's you need to install it from console, http://autopackage.org/docs/howto-install/
[08:04] <willys_fueguino> ah ok
[08:04] <willys_fueguino> thanx a lot narvik86 and PriceChild
[08:05] <willys_fueguino> I'll be back if it doesnt work
[08:05] <angel12> whenever i use xgl/ beryl, when i go to System > Quit i dont have a restart or shutdown option on the menu that pops up
[08:06] <PriceChild> angel12: please ask in
[08:06] <snook353> what does <STDIN> mean?
[08:06] <PriceChild> angel12: #beryl
[08:06] <dfcarney> snook353: "standard input" -- usually the keyboard
[08:06] <TehBigToe> PriceChild, still waiting...
[08:06] <ricanelite> does anyone here use MOL?
[08:06] <snook353> ok.....
[08:06] <amro> PriceChild: That's what was generating the error. It outputs some dbus related errors and crashes
[08:06] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: i think something might be wrong then :) -close that and open up a terminsl
[08:06] <stockfisch> hi folks, ive got a azureus problem... my upload is below 1kB, though it is limited to 100kB. I am seeding ubuntu isos, but this way my share ratio is far from good
[08:06] <TehBigToe> I can't close it
[08:06] <stockfisch> suggestions?
[08:07] <TehBigToe> I click the X and nothing happens
[08:07] <dfcarney> snook353: In Linux, <STDIN> is generally file descriptor 0 -- processes can remap that to other devices, but (as I mentioned) it's usually the keyboard
[08:07] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: try again
[08:07] <saharaab> hi
[08:07] <snook353> ok, dfcarney
[08:07] <TehBigToe> PriceChild,  nothing
[08:07] <TehBigToe> nothing at all :S
[08:08] <iklwa> hi.. does anyone knows how to get rid of the message "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166"? I got it when using moto4lin
[08:08] <kane77> does knoppix use apt-get?
[08:08] <angel12> stockfisch, how many other things are you seeding?
[08:08] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: open up a terminal and "sudo killall update-manager"
[08:08] <angel12> stockfisch, and how many leechers
[08:08] <stockfisch> this one iso at the moment
[08:09] <TehBigToe> ok PriceChild what now?
[08:09] <Max-O-Matic> hi. anybody here that has some expirience with NFS ?
[08:09] <angusprune> Hi, On a fresh install of kubuntu 6.10 (just applied updates and installed restricted codecs) I am trying to share a folder over the network.  When I click on 'Configure File Sharing' in folder properties the following dialogue appears http://angusprune.googlepages.com/SharingError.png  If I try running 'Sudo Konqueror' clicking 'Configure File Sharing' it does nothing.  Can anyone help me?
[08:09] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update
[08:09] <amro> PriceChild: any other ideas?
[08:09] <PriceChild> !anyone > Max-O-Matic:
[08:09] <n2diy> Yesterday, I had eight updates pending, I just downloaded Mondo 2.2, and I was just informed I have ONE update pending, Mondo2.06, what gives?
[08:09] <stockfisch> wtf?
[08:09] <PriceChild> amro: not sure why the daemon won't start :(
[08:09] <stockfisch> somehow my complete network seems to be messed up
[08:10] <PriceChild> !anyone > Max-O-Matic
[08:10] <PriceChild> !anyone > Max-O-Matic
[08:10] <n2diy> Also dpkp complained I was down grading from Mondo 2.06, to Mondo 2.2!?
[08:10] <amro> pricechild: do you think its possible reinstallation will fix this? since i can login can I just reinstall some specific packages?
[08:10] <stockfisch> azureus just crashed and kicked xchat, too
[08:10] <PriceChild> !anyone | Max-O-Matic
[08:10] <ubotu> Max-O-Matic: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:11] <TehBigToe> PriceChild, E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[08:11] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: which ones failed? look up a bit
[08:11] <ompaul> !anyone | Max-O-Matic
[08:11] <ubotu> Max-O-Matic: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:11] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: infact... pastebin the entire lot
[08:11] <aristocrat> hey guys, anyone have an idea of how i can initiatise an rpm db in ubuntu ?
[08:11] <TehBigToe> ok
[08:11] <ompaul> PriceChild, they had left
[08:12] <PriceChild> ompaul: never saw the exit message :(
[08:12] <n2diy> aristocrat:  Alien will translate RPMs to .debs.
[08:12] <PriceChild> !pastebin > TehBigToe
[08:12] <ompaul> PriceChild, you can't catch 100%
[08:12] <PriceChild> I'll live :)
[08:12] <ompaul> !alien
[08:12] <Max-O-Matic> ive set up nfs between my PC(dapper 6.06) and my small laptop(breezy5.04)... i can only mount   with : mount -a      and not with mount -t nfs 192.168.xxx.xxx
[08:12] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[08:12] <Max-O-Matic> andso on
[08:12] <stockfisch> i have possibly found the error...
[08:12] <aristocrat> but there is rpm package available in the repos.
[08:12] <stockfisch> java takes 99% cpu
[08:12] <stockfisch> can anyone tell how this might come?
[08:13] <stockfisch> i mean how i can find out?
[08:13] <aristocrat> i want to create a chrooted rpm filesystem
[08:13] <Max-O-Matic> when i mount with mount -t  it gives back an error:  that reads that i have no privleges
[08:13] <n2diy> aristocrat:  go for it
[08:13] <amro> PriceChild: Well do you think I should reinstall?
[08:13] <kane77> does  6.10 (xubuntu) have something like gparted?
[08:13] <yeager> stockfisch: garbage collection or just a crappy java application perhaps
[08:13] <Max-O-Matic> but with mount -a no problem
[08:13] <Max-O-Matic> s
[08:13] <[sYn] > Does anyone know what the audo player in this picture is ?   http://www.xfce-look.org/content/pre2/49904-2.png
[08:13] <PriceChild> !mono feisty
[08:13] <ubotu> mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[08:13] <stockfisch> so what can i do about that
[08:13] <stockfisch> the only java prog i am running is azureus
[08:13] <angusprune> Hi, On a fresh install of kubuntu 6.10 (just applied updates and installed restricted codecs) I am trying to share a folder over the network.  When I click on 'Configure File Sharing' in folder properties the following dialogue appears http://angusprune.googlepages.com/SharingError.png  If I try running 'Sudo Konqueror' clicking 'Configure File Sharing' it does nothing.  Can anyone help me?
[08:13] <PriceChild> amro: no
[08:14] <PriceChild> amro: i just don't know really
[08:14] <dfcarney> stockfish: azureus is a resource hog.  I'm not surprised if it's using 99% CPU
[08:14] <yeager> stockfisch: azureus is known to use too much cpu. try qbittorrent instead
[08:14] <TehBigToe> PriceChild, whoops
[08:14] <TehBigToe> I pasted it into pastebin before I saw ubotu's message
[08:14] <stockfisch> is it as easy to set up?
[08:14] <TehBigToe> I used pastebin.ca instead
[08:14] <TehBigToe> http://pastebin.ca/282606
[08:14] <dfcarney> stockfish: "nice" the process to lower it's priority so that other (more important) processes can get the CPU time that they need
[08:14] <Okt> I love how if you play with things long enough it all works out in linux. :D
[08:14] <yeager> stockfisch: no, ubuntu package available at www.qbittorrent.org
[08:14] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: no problem
[08:15] <unnutz> [sYn] , something says me that's Rhythmbox
[08:15] <kane77> does  6.10 (xubuntu) have something like gparted?
[08:15] <stockfisch> is qbittorrent coming with a gui?
[08:15] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: please pastebin "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:15] <TGPO> kane77 sudo apt-get install gparted .... now you have gparted
[08:15] <dfcarney> stockfisch: (sorry, sent this to the wrong name before) --  "nice" the process to lower it's priority so that other (more important) processes can get the CPU time that they need.
[08:15] <cortx> all: hi
[08:16] <PriceChild> hi cortx
[08:16] <yeager> stockfisch: yes, a qt4 gui
[08:16] <kane77> TGPO, I meant if i want to install it to a computer... I need to partition first...
[08:16] <Okt> I eneded up installing KDE, and now I have gnome working again, so how can I get rid of all of the bloat that came with KDE?
[08:16] <stockfisch> ill try it then
[08:16] <Ropechoborra> !paste
[08:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:16] <stockfisch> i did not have any probs with azureus under suse 10.1
[08:16] <TehBigToe> PriceChild, http://pastebin.ca/282610
[08:16] <TGPO> kane77 you mean installing from the CD .... yes it comes with a partition utility
[08:16] <dfcarney> stockfisch: did you use Gnome under SuSE?
[08:17] <stockfisch> no, i used kde
[08:17] <dfcarney> stockfisch: that could be why.  Gnome also uses a lot of resources.
[08:17] <stockfisch> but i wanted to get to gnome anyways
[08:17] <kane77> TGPO, you know I want to get my dad use it on his computer... (and I dont want to mess things up...)
[08:17] <stockfisch> hmm
[08:17] <Max-O-Matic>  ive set up nfs between my PC(dapper 6.06) and my small laptop(breezy5.04)... i can only mount   with : mount -a      and not with mount -t nfs 192.168.xxx.xxx:/    /
[08:17] <stockfisch> i have heard the same about kde
[08:17] <yeager> dfcarney: that is not completely correct. gnome uses not much more resources than kde
[08:18] <stockfisch> thats why i changed to gnome
[08:18] <dfcarney> stockfisch: yeager's suggestion to switch to another application may help
[08:18] <hydrogen> gnomes just uglier
[08:18] <TGPO> kane77: dont take this the wrong way, but if your afraid of breaking other people's stuff then odds are you probably shouldnt be doing it in the first place
[08:18] <dfcarney> yeager: in my experience, KDE uses sufficiently less than Gnome to make a noticeable performance impact
[08:18] <stockfisch> well, if firefox would start within the next ten minutes id have a look :-(
[08:18] <kane77> hydrogen, point of view...
[08:19] <kane77> hydrogen, I like it very much
[08:19] <hydrogen> kane77, point of view... gospel truth... there isn't much difference
[08:19] <bytecolor> how do I keep ubuntu from wanting to update my kernel?
[08:19] <dfcarney> stockfisch: can you get to a command prompt?   I want Grub to be installed on my SATA hard disk (/dev/sda). By default it will install it at "(hd0)". What do I need to change it to, to install Grub on by SATA hard disk pls?
[08:20] <dfcarney> stockfisch: why not?  i'm curious.
[08:20] <stockfisch> i dont think this would help
[08:20] <angusprune> Since no one seems able to help with my previous question, Can anyone please tell me how to share a folder in kubuntu 6.10 with another networked kubuntu 6.10 machine?
[08:20] <bytecolor> er apt.conf I mean
[08:20] <TehBigToe> PriceChild, firefox -remote "openurl(%s,new-tab)"
[08:20] <TehBigToe> er
[08:20] <TehBigToe> wrong paste :P
[08:20] <dfcarney> stockfisch: well, it's your call.
[08:20] <TehBigToe> PriceChild, http://pastebin.ca/282610
[08:20] <TGPO> MUTU /dev/sda IS a sata disk
[08:21] <tschentz> @<angusprune> have you tried nfs?
[08:21] <FirstStrike> !samba
[08:21] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:21] <stockfisch> dfcarney: sorry for that... this is just because i believe that it would speed up other applications, but it wont help for the seeding problem with azureus itself
[08:21] <livingtm> i am having a serious problem with nautilus. Ever since an update about a week ago, nautilus hangs while browsing from folder to folder. makes my machine totally useless.
[08:21] <MUTU> TGPO: I know. What do I need to change (hd0) to?
[08:21] <kane77> TGPO, I installed ubuntu several times and never had no trouble... (well apart from one time when I already had lilo in MBR and ubuntu somewhat ignored the fact...)
[08:21] <livingtm> nautilus has to be "force-quit"
[08:21] <dfcarney> stockfisch: i understand.  what are your system specs?  how much RAM/swap do you have?
[08:22] <angusprune> tshentz: All i've tried is the following, which is where I came in Hi, On a fresh install of kubuntu 6.10 (just applied updates and installed restricted codecs) I am trying to share a folder over the network.  When I click on 'Configure File Sharing' in folder properties the following dialogue appears http://angusprune.googlepages.com/SharingError.png  If I try running 'Sudo Konqueror' clicking 'Configure File Sharing' it does nothing.
[08:22] <MUTU> Hi, I'm installing Ubuntu 64-bit from the LiveDVD. I want Grub to be installed on my SATA hard disk (/dev/sda). By default Grub will try install itself at "(hd0)". What do I need to change the location to pls?
[08:23] <stockfisch> athlon 64 3200+, 2gb ram, 2gb swap, 36gb razor (system), 500gb data + usb rescue disk
[08:23] <yeager> [sYn] : that media player looks like last-exit
[08:23] <stockfisch> that should be enough for torrent i believe
[08:23] <dfcarney> stockfisch: and you're having performance issues?  That's crazy. :P
[08:23] <tschentz> @angusprune ok, then: apt-get install nfs-user-server  on both machines
[08:23] <stockfisch> thats really weird, true
[08:23] <dfcarney> stockfisch: 'dmesg' doesn't report anything out-of-the-ordinary?
[08:24] <yeager> stockfisch: well, try qbittorrent, it's qt4 (kde) and easy to use
[08:24] <TGPO> kane77 then what are you asking? you know what your doing and have done it several times ??? your not making much sense
[08:24] <hydrogen> MUTU, do you have multiple harddrives on your computer?
[08:24] <stockfisch> i just killed java and i am looking up the prog on the page you have given to me
[08:24] <Max-O-Matic> !nfs
[08:24] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[08:24] <MUTU> hydrogen: yes, 3
[08:24] <MUTU> 1 SATA, 2 IDE
[08:25] <MUTU> trying to install Ubuntu on the IDE slave
[08:25] <tschentz> on the "server"edit the /etc/exports file and write something link this: /home/tschentz/ <IP_ADDRESS>  in one line, where /home/tschentz is the directory you want to share and the IP address is the adress of the machine which is allow to connect to this share
[08:25] <amro> PriceChild: Reinstalling the dbus package fixed it. I suspect a bad CD
[08:25] <stockfisch> MUTU: I have ahd the same problems
[08:26] <TGPO> MUTU grub has to be on the MBR of the "active" HD or on a floppy
[08:26] <stockfisch> grub had to be installed on the first boot disk
[08:26] <MUTU> TGPO: Yes, I need it to be on the SATA.
[08:26] <stockfisch> i disabled the first controllers in the BIOS therefor
[08:26] <PriceChild> amro: well done :)
[08:26] <PriceChild> amro: sorry i couldn't help :)
[08:26] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: getting to you sorry
[08:26] <TehBigToe> ok
[08:26] <TGPO> MUTU your not getting it, the SATA isnt the "active" HD
[08:26] <stockfisch> installing on a slave disk could be tricky though
[08:26] <kane77> TGPO, well I was just asking wheter the 6.10 version has some partition editor... that was all...
[08:27] <tschentz> and on the client edit /etc/fstab  and fill in something like this : <IP_ADDRESS>:/home/tschentz /home/tschentz/tschentz nfs
[08:27] <stockfisch> kane77: did you take the alternate install cd?
[08:27] <MUTU> TGPO: you're not getting it. I need it installed on the SATA. That's what's booting first in my system, and that's where Windows is.
[08:27] <tschentz> this will mount the share directory to /home/tschentz/tschentz on the client
[08:28] <hydrogen> MUTU, hd0 may be the sata harddrive then
[08:28] <hydrogen> MUTU, grubs nomenclature is a bit hard to understand
[08:28] <TGPO> MUTU then hd0 would be the correct drive
[08:28] <MUTU> can't I force it somehow to be on the SATA? do i have to assume that hd0 is the SATA?
[08:28] <stockfisch> MUTU: grub will be installed on the sata only if you disable the ide controller where other disks hang on
[08:28] <hydrogen> err
[08:28] <hydrogen> no
[08:28] <hydrogen> it depends on bios boot order
[08:29] <hydrogen> hd0 is the first device booted
[08:29] <hydrogen> iirc
[08:29] <stockfisch> it did not help here
[08:29] <hydrogen> hd1 is second
[08:29] <stockfisch> not always
[08:29] <hydrogen> a simple way to check
[08:29] <MUTU> first device booted is my DVD-ROM though.
[08:29] <hydrogen> is go to the command line
[08:29] <stockfisch> grub masses up hd0 and sd0 in my case
[08:29] <cchristianTPclon> hello
[08:29] <cchristianTPclon> How do I edit "grub.config"?
[08:29] <cchristianTPclon> I'm getting the Infamous Error 17 again
[08:29] <cchristianTPclon> and Compaq did it
[08:29] <hydrogen> grub doens't know what sd0 is i don't believe
[08:30] <hydrogen> MUTU, go to the commandline, run `grub` and check out tab completion to see what grub thinks is what
[08:30] <stockfisch> and thats the point
[08:30] <TGPO> grub doesnt differentiat hd and sd ... its all hd to grub
[08:30] <hydrogen> if you type (hd0,<TAB> it should show you all the partitions on that drive
[08:30] <stockfisch> during installation configure it asks for installation on sd0
[08:30] <webweaver2006> question - how to set up a serial mouse and does ubuntu recognize isa cards
[08:30] <hydrogen> see if thats your sata drive
[08:30] <stockfisch> but installs on hd0
[08:30] <cchristianTPclon> HELLO.
[08:30] <derFlo> gibts auch n programm mit dem man die CPU temperatur messen kann? (habn asrock p4vt8 mb)
[08:30] <hydrogen> cchristianTPclon, vi /boot/grub/grub.conf
[08:30] <hydrogen> or /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:31] <cchristianTPclon> hydrogen: what???
[08:31] <stockfisch> if you deactivate all hds except for cdrom, it will take sd0 as hd0 under grub
[08:31] <stockfisch> very weird, but it helped for me
[08:31] <Max-O-Matic> tschentz    /etc/exports   on server---> /sharedirectory IPserver(options) IPclient(options)
[08:31] <cchristianTPclon> I can't get into the system, can I do it from BIOS?
[08:31] <TGPO> stockfisch: grub see's everything as hd it doesnt know sd
[08:32] <hydrogen> cchristianTPclon, hit 'e' at the grub menu
[08:32] <Lattyware> Hey all, I'm trying to make a WinXP install disc from a recovery disc to use with VMware. I have got the files needed, made the iso (mkisofs -o path path) and made WMware boot off it, but it's saying no bootable CD
[08:32] <hydrogen> you can edit it in place
[08:32] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: could you try sudo apt-get update again see if things change?
[08:32] <cchristianTPclon> how do I get the GRUB menu?
[08:32] <hydrogen> then use 'b' to boot the edited entry
[08:32] <Lattyware> Is there a special way to make the ISO bootable
[08:32] <stockfisch> yes, but during installation in the ubuntu setup ist asks for installation on sd0
[08:32] <stockfisch> in my case
[08:32] <TehBigToe> ok PriceChild
[08:32] <MUTU> I don't get it. I'll try installing Ubuntu some other time.
[08:32] <stockfisch> which is hd0 under ubuntu
[08:32] <angusprune> tschentz: how do I find out the IP addresses? the network has a DHCP server, or can I put wild cards in there?
[08:32] <enyc> hd0 ??
[08:32] <fido> hello
[08:32] <jluthman> i'm having big brother (a monitoring tool) and it uses the local ping utility to see if a host it alive - i have three interfaces on this box and it will on able to respond on one interface (so you must do a ping -I eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>) - but i don't know how to modify the software to do it this way; can anyone tell me how to change the metric measurement on the interfaces?
[08:32] <enyc> aad hd0 in grub you mean?
[08:33] <stockfisch> yes
[08:33] <tim167> cchristianTPclon: press escape on startup, when you see grum
[08:33] <tim167> cchristianTPclon i mean GRUB
[08:33] <cchristianTPclon> tim167: ok
[08:33] <tschentz> @<angusprune> yes you can also enter wildcards, e.g. 192.168.0.*
[08:33] <TehBigToe> PriceChild, now there's no error messages
[08:33] <enyc> stockfisch: the kerenl will see things like 'hda' 'sda' etc...   (hd0) is what grub sees as BIOS INT 13 drive 0x80
[08:33] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: yay :)
[08:33] <PriceChild> TehBigToe: no try "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[08:33] <cchristianTPclon> so...  after COMPAQ dissapears, hit esc?
[08:33] <stockfisch> you are completely right
[08:34] <stockfisch> but i cant describe the problem eny better...
[08:34] <TehBigToe> PriceChild, now 0 updates
[08:34] <TehBigToe> :D
[08:34] <Lattyware> Anyone?
[08:34] <fido> hello
[08:34] <TGPO> Lattyware: wrong channel
[08:34] <fido> que cosa??
[08:35] <webweaver2006> how do you deactivate usb at bootup?
[08:35] <Lattyware> TGPO: Not really, I'm doing it within ubuntu
[08:35] <cchristianTPclon> tim167: so...  after COMPAQ dissapears, hit esc?
[08:35] <Lattyware> or is there a #bootablecds?
[08:35] <fido> help. i have an error PCI: Cannot allocate resource region
[08:35] <stockfisch> enyc: maybe this is an error with the nforce4 chipset. it completely ignores the ide and sata bootorder. ide ALWAYS comes first
[08:35] <tim167> cchristianTPclon: something like that yes, you have to watch your screen closely, and hit esc as soon as GRUB shows up
[08:36] <amro> PriceChild: Thanks a lot for helping!
[08:36] <cchristianTPclon> ok trying
[08:36] <dfcarney> Lattyware: yeah, but that's like saying that you need help with an online site because you surf the web from a browser in Ubuntu.
[08:36] <tim167> cchristianTPclon: good luck :-D
[08:36] <cchristianTPclon> oops!  I had it
[08:36] <LinTux> When I go into the Gimp I get a paint trail on the cursor, how can I turn it off
[08:36] <Remaille> hi
[08:36] <Lattyware> dfcarney: I guess...
[08:36] <Remaille> has anyone already used wake on lan ?
[08:36] <dfcarney> Lattyware: either way, I'm sorry that I can't help you.  I don't know the solution to your problem.
[08:36] <Lattyware> fair enough
[08:37] <LinTux>  When I go into the Gimp I get a paint trail on the cursor, how can I turn it off
[08:38] <cchristianTPclon> tim167: so...  when it says "GRUB Loading stage 1.5"?
[08:39] <tim167> cchristianTPclon: yes, actually I think it also says something like : "hit escape to enter grub menu" but you dont have much time...
[08:39] <cchristianTPclon> hmmmm...
[08:39] <cchristianTPclon> no it dosnt
[08:39] <cchristianTPclon> tim167: It says:
[08:40] <kurei> hi
[08:40] <xenonn31> hello, i want to have aceleration graphics in my intel gma 945
[08:40] <xenonn31> what should i do ?
[08:40] <cchristianTPclon> GRUB Loading stage1.5
[08:40] <cchristianTPclon> GRUB loading, please wait...
[08:40] <cchristianTPclon> Error 17
[08:40] <xenonn31> is that possible?
[08:40] <tim167> cchristianTPclon: I'm not sure, maybe it only allows this menu if you have multiple kernels/os-es installed...?
[08:41] <cchristianTPclon> I have XP and Ubuntu
[08:41] <xenonn31> I learnt, something about beryl, aiglx k is that what i should install ?
[08:41] <cchristianTPclon> it's a Compaq Presario V5000
[08:41] <tim167> cchristianTPclon: yes, but maybe, that error message means grub could not load
[08:41] <kurei> i've installed java 6 on my machine... unfortunately its not listed when i do a sudo update-alternatives --configure java. Does anyone know how to set my default jre to 1.6?
[08:41] <cchristianTPclon> CTO
[08:41] <eddie> I can print with ubunta, but i can't print with suse, why/what is this
[08:42] <cchristianTPclon> no, the COMPAQ support person showed me this: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml
[08:42] <cchristianTPclon> it say what error 17 is
[08:44] <cchristianTPclon> eddie: "restore Partition"?
[08:44] <tim167> cchristianTPclon: your HD partition seems to be broken
[08:44] <Hoxzer> I get "you need a flashplayer" notices from sites although I have flashplugin-nonfree installed what causes this?
[08:44] <cchristianTPclon> tim167: huh?
[08:45] <yeager> stockfisch: did you like qbittorrent?
[08:45] <jrib> Hoxzer: probably you have version 7 and the site wants a newer one
[08:45] <tim167> cchristianTPclon:  at least: grub cannot load the partition its supposed to, see your link : " This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB."
[08:46] <jrib> eddie: maybe try #suse
[08:46] <semboy> !nvy
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:46] <cchristianTPclon> hmmmm...
[08:46] <cchristianTPclon> like "unformatted"?
[08:46] <semboy> does anyone knowz about nvidia autoinstaller
[08:46] <semboy> ?
[08:47] <narvik86> nvidia_package.run ?
[08:47] <semboy> yeah
[08:47] <semboy> i just want to run the program , so it will autoinstall nvidia , is there a program that can do that
[08:47] <jrib> !nvidia | semboy
[08:47] <ubotu> semboy: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:47] <kurei> semboy, try using easyubuntu
[08:48] <boOkwo7m_> anyone here uses irssi?
[08:48] <jrib> !anyone | boOkwo7m_
[08:48] <ubotu> boOkwo7m_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:48] <n2diy> can locate find just one file? ie just a file called make, and not everything that contains make?
[08:48] <boOkwo7m> anyone here uses irssi
[08:48] <boOkwo7m> ?
[08:48] <Digit0> Hi
[08:48] <mrmist> Hi all
[08:48] <Digit0> the azureus in apt-get core dumps :(
[08:48] <cchristianTPclon> ok, the compiuters owner want's it back, hurry up
[08:48] <jrib> boOkwo7m: yes, what is your next question?
[08:49] <jrib> n2diy: you can pass a regex to locate
[08:49] <semboy> where can i get automatix ??
[08:49] <eddie> why does ubuntu keeps silent when loading, knoppix greets you
[08:49] <yeager> Digit0: try something better, like qbittorrent
[08:49] <jrib> !automatix | semboy
[08:49] <ubotu> semboy: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:49] <kurei> how do i set my default jre to java 6?
[08:49] <n2diy> jrib, how
[08:49] <yeager> cheesus, does everyone use bittorrent? :)
[08:49] <astronouth7303> how do I replace totem with VLC as the default media player?
[08:49] <mrmist> I get a problem trying to browse my samba shares... I keep getting: "The location is not a folder"-errors
[08:49] <jrib> n2diy: man locate  should say.  I don't remember the exact switch
[08:49] <semboy> JRIB thanks i was about to do a mistake !!
[08:49] <yeager> astronouth7303: right click on the media file and choose Run with
[08:49] <n2diy> jrib, roger, RTFM :)
[08:49] <jrib> !defaultapp | astronouth7303
[08:49] <ubotu> astronouth7303: To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[08:49] <eddie> #suse
[08:49] <semboy> JRIB thanks really :)
[08:50] <Hoxzer> jrib: isn't 9.0.21* good enough?
[08:50] <jrib> n2diy: heh well it will give you better info than me, let me know if it isn't clear
[08:50] <astronouth7303> thanks jrib
[08:50] <reggaemanu> is there someone that use bluetooth on edgy (with a phone) ?
[08:50] <jrib> Hoxzer: idk, what site?
[08:51] <UbnNoob> Anyone who know how to install multifunctional devices (Canon MF5730) in Ubuntu?
[08:51] <boOkwo7m> jrib: sorry for the redundancy :)  how do I activate automatic logging?  I set in my config file autolog = on; autolog_path = "path/to/log";  but it doesn't work
[08:51] <n2diy> Jrib, roger roger.
[08:51] <jrib> boOkwo7m: did you /save ?
[08:51] <boOkwo7m> save ?
[08:51] <cchristianTPclon> HELLO?!?!
[08:51] <boOkwo7m> it's in the config file!
[08:51] <Hoxzer> jrib: ? whta do You mean byt what site? I installed it via apt
[08:51] <stockfisch> how do i set up qbittorrent to automatically start when i have downloaded a torrent file?
[08:51] <jrib> Hoxzer: what site isn't working?
[08:51] <boOkwo7m> jrib: i just modified the config and restarted irssi
[08:51] <kurei> how do i set my default jre to java 6?
[08:52] <yeager> UbnNoob: have you tried google?
[08:52] <kralc-le> hi, I want to burn an iso file to a dvd, when I insert a blank dvd it gives me the option to burn a disk,, my question is if I drag the iso file to the window will that burn the iso image (instead of burning a dvd with an iso file) ?
[08:52] <UbnNoob> yeager : What is google ? ;)
[08:52] <yeager> stockfisch: set it up as default application for .torrent files
[08:52] <josh_> whats up everyone? question, i have a child who is "about that age" and i need to make sure he isn't going to be going to certain sites with inappropriate material. he is on a windows machine and i am using ubuntu (as soon as i figure out how to get it installed on my c2d box). how do i need to go about forcing his internet through my box to get out the network and what application do i need...
[08:52] <josh_> ...to get to monitor his whereabouts (if there is an application that will block bad content that would be nice to know also)
[08:52] <jrib> boOkwo7m: that should work, what path did you use?
[08:52] <stockfisch> how do i do that?
[08:52] <stockfisch> i am new to ubuntu...
[08:53] <cchristianTPclon> HELLO?!?!
[08:53] <yeager> josh_: set up a proxy cache like squid
[08:53] <killermach> how do I get ubuntu to install on a laptop when X doesn't start??
[08:53] <jrib> cchristianTPclon: hi
[08:53] <Hoxzer> jrib: http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer
[08:53] <josh_> squid eh? what else?
[08:53] <Hoxzer> jrib: no!
[08:53] <yeager> cchristianTPclon: HELLO
[08:53] <semboy> is there a program calld nvy i dont really know the name , but someone told me , that it could install nvidia by it self
[08:53] <Hoxzer> jrib: http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/ this one
[08:53] <yeager> semboy: envy
[08:53] <boOkwo7m> jrib: autolog_path = "~/.irssi/log/$0.%Y-%m-%d.log";
[08:53] <cchristianTPclon> ok, thanks, I was wondering if I was still here.....
[08:53] <semboy> yeahger thanks
[08:53] <foob> is it possible to ssh to my ubuntu partition from within my windows partition?
[08:53] <semboy> !envy
[08:53] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[08:53] <packagedeliverer> hey guys
[08:54] <cchristianTPclon> yeager: so do you know?
[08:54] <cchristianTPclon> jrib: or you?
[08:54] <stockfisch> yeager: how do i set the default application for a file type under ubuntu?
[08:54] <foob> stockfish right click on it and choose 'properties' then 'open with'
[08:54] <yeager> !defaultapp | stockfisch
[08:54] <ubotu> stockfisch: To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[08:54] <jrib> Hoxzer: http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/about/  what version does this site say you have?
[08:54] <packagedeliverer> I'm trying to install Linux Live so I'm able to make a bootcd (college stuff) but it's not really working out
[08:54] <foob> yay i was right :D
[08:54] <packagedeliverer> could anyone help?
[08:55] <yeager> reggaemanu: i do. i use wammu
[08:55] <foob> does wammu have free checking
[08:55] <Hoxzer> jrib: vVersion 9,0,21,78 Installed Successfully
[08:55] <boOkwo7m> jrib: I'll try to use the /save thing ..
[08:55] <kralc-le> hi, I want to burn an iso image to a dvd, when I insert a blank dvd it gives me the option to burn a disk,, my question is if I drag the iso file to the window will that burn the iso image (instead of burning a dvd with an iso file) ?
[08:55] <jrib> boOkwo7m: try autolog_path = ~/irclogs/$tag/$0.log  that's what I have.  That we we can see if that is the issue
[08:55] <yeager> packagedeliverer: live cd means that you don't have to install anything
[08:55] <reggaemanu> yeager, without wammu, if you launch gnome-obex-send, is your phone detected?
[08:55] <josh_> what else will i need to get?
[08:55] <boOkwo7m> jrib: will do
[08:55] <con-man> how do I stop X? the nvidia drivers need it not to be running
[08:55] <packagedeliverer> I know, but I'm trying to install the script that makes the cd yeager
[08:56] <Hoxzer> Now we came to "wtf" point
[08:56] <jrib> Hoxzer: weird, that link you gave me works here
[08:56] <yeager> reggaemanu: i have no idea. wammu does the work for me
[08:56] <cchristianTPclon> .......
[08:56] <netcrash> Hello, does ubuntu version 6.06.1 get's security updates ? ( like for the recent security problems in proftpd )
[08:56] <yeager> packagedeliverer: you want to create your own live cd?
[08:56] <oskude> kralc-le: dunno, but i allways just click right mouse on iso and say burn on cd/dvd
[08:56] <packagedeliverer> yeh
[08:56] <reggaemanu> yeager, can you try it?
[08:56] <Hoxzer> jrib: .....:(
[08:56] <Hoxzer> well jrib I check it some day
[08:56] <jrib> Hoxzer: you have any extensions?
[08:56] <cchristianTPclon> HELLO, i AM STILL HERE, NO CHANG IN THE QUESTION I AM ASKING
[08:56] <boOkwo7m> jrib: nope, doesnt work
[08:56] <packagedeliverer> yeager, need to do it for an exam next month =)
[08:56] <kralc-le> oskude: thanks
[08:56] <yeager> reggaemanu: i use Send to in nautilus to send files to my phone
[08:56] <reggaemanu> i don't need wammu, i just want to send files directly via nautilus
[08:57] <Hoxzer> jrib: yeah, ofcourse gspace and "OOK! video OOK!"
[08:57] <foob> netcrash 6.06 is the supported one so yeah theres updates
[08:57] <reggaemanu> yeager, hum so it seems it is detected
[08:57] <oskude> !shout | cchristianTPclon
[08:57] <ubotu> cchristianTPclon: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:57] <jrib> boOkwo7m: what is your autolog_level?
[08:57] <packagedeliverer> and I don't want to use my laptop so I can do it outside college hours
[08:57] <boOkwo7m> jrib: what activates logging?  is autolog = on enough?
[08:57] <yeager> packagedeliverer: http://www.atworkonline.it/~bibe/ubuntu/custom-livecd.htm
[08:57] <foob> netcrash for supported software
[08:57] <cchristianTPclon> ubotu: are you sure???
[08:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about are you sure??? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:57] <boOkwo7m> jrib: unset
[08:57] <yeager> reggaemanu: does your bt dongle work at all?
[08:57] <jrib> boOkwo7m: autolog_level = all -crap -clientcrap -ctcps
[08:57] <stockfisch> thx, it worked, yeager, ubotu
[08:58] <yeager> stockfisch: :)
[08:58] <reverseblade> Hello , I have just compiled my kernel, but the boot proces just halts
[08:58] <n2diy> jrib, I want to locate the command xastir, and not list everything else that contains xastir, like the source files, I checked the man page, and tried -r xastir, but no luck.
[08:58] <cchristianTPclon> how do I edit GRUB.CONF?
[08:58] <cchristianTPclon> ANYONE?
[08:58] <stockfisch> too easy to look at that point... too windows like ;-)
[08:58] <reverseblade> Begin: Waiting for root file system..  it just hangs
[08:58] <jrib> Hoxzer: try without extensions (create a new firefox profile).  What is the exact error string you get on the site?
[08:58] <yeager> packagedeliverer: or this http://lichota.net/~krzysiek/projects/ubuntu-livecd-customization/
[08:58] <jrib> cchristianTPclon: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst     is that what you mean?  And please don't use caps
[08:58] <yeager> cchristianTPclon: sudo vi /boot/grub/grub.conf
[08:59] <reggaemanu> yeager, yeah, i can send files to my comp, but send from the comp doesn't work, it don't find the phone (in fact obex search device with  hidd --search (wich doesn't find my phone) and with hcitool scan it find it, that's weird
[08:59] <oskude> cchristianTPclon: as you would edit any other text file... if that GRUB.CONF is a textfile... (remember: its case sensitive)
[08:59] <jrib> n2diy: I would just do:  locate xastir | grep bin
[08:59] <packagedeliverer> it's not customizing a livecd but making one out of a modified system (so, I removed/edited the stuff I learned at college and now I need to make a live cd out of it)
[08:59] <yeager> reggaemanu: ah, your dongle is not in the correct mode (listening mode or what it is called)
[09:00] <boOkwo7m> jrib: no doesn't work either ..
[09:00] <packagedeliverer> http://www.linux-live.org/ so using this package... I just need to know how to recompile the kernel
[09:00] <reggaemanu> yeager, how can i change that? there is nothing on the key to change modes...
[09:00] <jrib> boOkwo7m: pastebin all the stuff you get when you do    /set log
[09:00] <boOkwo7m> i must be missing something simple ..  how do i activate logging?  is autolog = on enough?
[09:00] <cchristianTPclon> AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE: I cannot turn on the computer, it is not getting past the initial boot.
[09:00] <jrib> boOkwo7m: yes, it should be
[09:00] <jrib> !caps | cchristianTPclon
[09:01] <ubotu> cchristianTPclon: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:01] <yeager> packagedeliverer: read more about squashfs. you can create an image of your current system and then compress it with squashfs (so it will fit on a cd)
[09:01] <Zodiac`> after i've installed ET on linux, how to open it?
[09:01] <cchristianTPclon> are you sure???
[09:01] <Zodiac`> like, how to launch it?
[09:01] <yeager> cchristianTPclon: what is the error message?
[09:01] <jrib> cchristianTPclon: state your question with all relevant information in _one_ line
[09:01] <packagedeliverer> k, thanks yeager
[09:01] <cchristianTPclon> ERROR 17
[09:01] <cchristianTPclon> as I said before
[09:01] <boOkwo7m> jrib: OH!  it says autolog OFF !!  Even though i set it to on in my config!
[09:01] <oskude> !patience | cchristianTPclon
[09:01] <ubotu> cchristianTPclon: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:01] <boOkwo7m> jrib: how do i set autologging in the config?  i must have done it wrong.
[09:01] <yeager> grub error 17 means that it doesn't find or can't mount the filesystem/partition
[09:02] <n2diy> jrib, that works a lot better than plane locate, still turns up a bunch of stuff I don't need, but it does tell what I need no know, tnx.
[09:02] <jrib> boOkwo7m: if you edited config while irssi is running it may save the values it had when it exits
[09:02] <Joakim> Hi
[09:03] <Joakim> I have some problems with the program switcher
[09:03] <miniman> Can anyone recommend a good firewall?
[09:03] <boOkwo7m> jrib: is ON and on different?  i.e. case-sensitive?
[09:03] <foob> linksys
[09:03] <boOkwo7m> jrib: will try now ON ...
[09:03] <Joakim> When I open new program, it lays under all of the other programs that is running
[09:03] <Joakim> Understand?
[09:03] <jrib> bytecolor: I don't think it's different
[09:03] <jrib> boOkwo7m: ^
[09:03] <derFlo> HI
[09:03] <miniman> Can anyone recommend a good firewalll?
[09:04] <yeager> miniman: iptables
[09:04] <derFlo> ive got a prob with wmsensors
[09:04] <jrib> !firewall | miniman
[09:04] <derFlo> florian@florian-desktop:~$ wmsensors -i
[09:04] <derFlo> Could not locate or open config file!
[09:04] <ubotu> miniman: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:04] <Zodiac`> after i've installed wolfenstein: Enemy territory on linux, how to launch it?
[09:04] <boOkwo7m> jrib: ?
[09:04] <derFlo> how can i fix that problem?
[09:04] <miniman> Sweet, thanks!
[09:04] <jrib> boOkwo7m: I don't think it's case-sensitive
[09:04] <Joakim> I' try to explain better
[09:04] <Joakim> I'll
[09:04] <Joakim> Say I run Firefox, and opens Gaim
[09:05] <kurei> how do i add installers in my local directory into synaptic?
[09:05] <packagedeliverer> one last question, I have a shellscript runme.sh ... as a noob, typing the 'filename' or 'exec filename' or 'open filename' haven't done much...
[09:05] <Joakim> Then Gaim lays down under Firefox
[09:05] <Joakim> So I have to click on Gaim from the Panel
[09:05] <jrib> !enter | Joakim
[09:05] <ubotu> Joakim: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:05] <yeager> packagedeliverer: ./runme.sh
[09:05] <mc__> packagedeliverer: type bash runme.sh
[09:05] <LePousson> hi guys
[09:05] <boOkwo7m> jrib: where do i set the autolog?  atm i set it in the server section .. ?
[09:05] <Zodiac`> after i've installed wolfenstein: Enemy territory on linux, how to launch it?
[09:06] <packagedeliverer> thanks !
[09:06] <jrib> boOkwo7m: just do  /set autlog on   followed by   /save
[09:06] <jrib> boOkwo7m: but spell autolog right :)
[09:06] <boOkwo7m> jrib: :p
[09:06] <LePousson> I just wanted to know if it is possible to have an ubuntu-desktop acting as a DHCP and Apache/MySQL/PHP server ?
[09:07] <jrib> !lamp | LePousson
[09:07] <ubotu> LePousson: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[09:07] <oskude> LePousson: but of course!
[09:07] <n2diy> how can I determine the size of a directory?
[09:07] <sharperguy> !ubotu
[09:07] <LePousson> ok oskude ... thanks jrib
[09:07] <jrib> n2diy: du -sh
[09:07] <joni> n2diy: use du
[09:08] <yeager> n2diy: du -h --max-depth=1  (lists all directories too)
[09:09] <jrib> n2diy: or right click > properties
[09:09] <uffiole> i like du * -sch
[09:09] <n2diy> Jrib, et al thanksl, du /usr takes a while to run! I'll try right clicking in nautilus.
[09:10] <kurei> how do i add local repositories to synaptic?
[09:10] <ReinH> Guys, are there any issues with dual booting a computer with two hard drives and using the first for windows and the second for Ubuntu?
[09:10] <nevron> issue?
[09:10] <ReinH> I've never done it, so I'm wondering if there are any gotchas
[09:11] <ReinH> or is it as easy as partitioningo one hard drive?
[09:11] <oskude> ReinH: you just "have" to install grub to the mbr of the harddrive that is set as boot device in bios...
[09:11] <kni1> What file do I need to edit on the webserver to be able to connect to it internally?
[09:11] <mefistofeles> hey
[09:12] <ReinH> oskude: ok, so I install grub on the boot drive.
[09:12] <n2diy> Jrib, did you mean right click on the directory from nautilus? That just tells me free disk space.
[09:12] <mefistofeles> why is that ubuntu doesnt have alsaconf?... any special reason?
[09:12] <duckfish> Is there something like Taskbar Shuffle (WinXP) for Ubuntu? I want to be able to rearrange the order of the windows in the Window List
[09:12] <superkirbyartist> I have a lot of issues with Ubuntu on my old iMac.
[09:12] <jrib> n2diy: look at the "Contents" field
[09:12] <oskude> ReinH: if you dont use other methods (boot floppy). yes
[09:13] <ReinH> oskude: Ok, would I need a partition on that drive for it, then?
[09:13] <kishan> duckfish------ right click on menue and choose edit menue
[09:13] <n2diy> jrib, ah ha, the directory I chose was an empty one, I got it now.
[09:13] <ReinH> Would it make more sense to just put the '/' partition on the boot drive and put /home on the second HDD? I've got 12GB to spare on the first drive
[09:13] <oskude> ReinH: mbr is allready on every hd, you dont need to create it, it just will be overwritten (the ms windows bootloader)
[09:14] <ReinH> oskude: oh, ok. I see what you mean now
[09:14] <oskude> ReinH: MBR = Master Boot Record, i think wikipedia has more info, if you want
[09:14] <ReinH> oskude: How would I typically specify where to install grub?
[09:14] <kishan> !mbr
[09:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:15] <zero_> hola muy buenas
[09:15] <oskude> ReinH: for mbr, it ask on which hd
[09:15] <mc__> !es
[09:15] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:15] <duckfish> kishan: I don't see 'edit menu'.. right-clicking on windows shows 'minimize', 'maximize', etc, and right-clicking on the window list shows 'add to panel', 'properties', 'delete this panel', etc
[09:15] <ReinH> oskude: ok, perfect
[09:15] <Zodiac`> i write et in terminal, but enemy territory wont lauch.. why? is it some graphic card error?
[09:15] <ReinH> I'm clearing off the HDD as we speak. In ... 220 minutes I'll probably be back with more questions ;)
[09:15] <ReinH> Thanks for the help
[09:16] <Zodiac`> i write et in terminal, but enemy territory wont lauch.. why? is it some graphic card error?
[09:16] <boOkwo7m> jrib: Thanks!  I got my logging working now! :)
[09:16] <kishan> duckfish:right click on the application option of mnue and u will see edit menue
[09:16] <oskude> ReinH: btw, which ubuntu you install ? i remember "old" (dapper?) didnt give you that option thou... meaning the graphicalk installer
[09:16] <Curs0r> hey can someone please help me with xdmcp? when i load an app that uses qt, or tk or gecko or even console for the interface everything is great. when i load an app that uses gtk for the interface it takes 3-5 minutes to load
[09:16] <jrib> boOkwo7m: great
[09:16] <whyameye> inkscape isn't importing ai files like it should.  when I try to import I am getting "Use of uninitialized value in subtraction (-) at /usr/share/inkscape/extensions/ill2svg.pl line 318,..."
[09:16] <ReinH> oskude: I have a dapper CD I was going to use, but maybe I'll try the new (edgy?)
[09:16] <kishan> duckfish: go to system---preferences---menue layout
[09:17] <ReinH> oskude: what would you recommend?
[09:17] <Zodiac`> nolimitsoya, hey m8 :) you know something about enemy territory? (wolfenstein) "i write et in terminal, but enemy territory wont lauch.. why? is it some graphic card error?"
[09:17] <oskude> ReinH: im not sure if dapper was "ok", hope someone knows here (i normally use the alternate old text based installer and it "allways" had that option)
[09:17] <boOkwo7m> jrib: I tried doing things manually (the way I like) but when I did it automatically (/set autolog on  and then /save) i saw my mistakes.  Now it all works. :)
[09:18] <kishan> oskude: ubuntu installintion install grub at mbr by default
[09:18] <ReinH> oskude: what version of Ubuntu would you prefer for a non critical (second development computer) install?
[09:18] <oskude> whyameye: you could try export to svg in freehand and open that in inkscape... and this is (will be) yummy too http://xaraxtreme.org/
[09:18] <ReinH> anyone else please comment too
[09:18] <Fleebailey66> i liked yaboot on powerpc better
[09:18] <oskude> kishan: but does dapper live cd have option in which hd mbr ?
[09:18] <jrib> ReinH: edgy
[09:19] <Curs0r> ReinH, always good to stay current on a dev machine, edgy
[09:19] <ReinH> jrib: how "edgy" is edgy? Is it stable yet?
[09:19] <chorse> ReinH: Edgy, no doubt
[09:19] <superkirbyartist> I am using yaboot.
[09:19] <ReinH> Sry, I haven't been keeping up.
[09:19] <oskude> ReinH: dapper and edgy are stable, dapper just has longer support (and edgy more actual software)
[09:19] <jrib> ReinH: it was released in october
[09:19] <whyameye> oskude: is freehand in the repos?
[09:19] <Curs0r> ReinH, edgy could not be more stable imho
[09:19] <oskude> whyameye: heh ? adobe freehand is the tool that makes .ai files...
[09:19] <kishan> oskude: there is no option of where to install grub .it installs on mbr by default
[09:19] <chorse> oskude: more recent software :)
[09:19] <Zodiac`> enemy territory says: "Sys_Error: Error during initialization"
[09:19] <mc__> Curs0r: I experienced a lot more problems with edgy
[09:19] <duckfish> kishan: I'm using gnome on dapper, I don't see 'menu layout', only 'menus and toolbars' and 'windows', and neither of them have the option to do what I want
[09:20] <ReinH> jrib, oskude, Curs0r: awesome, thanks. I'll install edgy on this one and then upgrade the one I'm on now from Dapper to Edgy as well
[09:20] <bradley_> i was setting up thunderbird but i can't find a systray setting-- how do i get it to run in the background?
[09:20] <Fleebailey66> superkirbyartist, how is it on x86?
[09:20] <superkirbyartist> The monitor's colors are messed up and I have KDE stuff, though.
[09:20] <oskude> kishan: you said that allready, but can you choose on which harddisk mbr ?
[09:20] <whyameye> oskude: oh. So i'd have to move to a Windows machine w/ freehand on it...
[09:20] <Fleebailey66> can it dual boot windows?
[09:20] <Curs0r> mc__, the things that used to crush FC6 on this pc are nothing to edgy
[09:20] <kishan> oskude: sorry i have no experince with two hard disks
[09:20] <ReinH> kishan: So if I'm installing Ubuntu on a second drive, will grub be installed correctly by default?
[09:21] <oskude> whyameye: dunno, i though it was an .ai you made with freehand... i never imported such files in inkscape...
[09:21] <ReinH> kishan: oic, never mind ;)
[09:21] <con-man> how do I set up aiglx
[09:21] <ShminkyBoy> lol
[09:21] <con-man> anyone?
[09:21] <ShminkyBoy> this is weird
[09:21] <Fleebailey66> ReinH, you can install it on the second drive where ubuntu is or you can install it on the master
[09:21] <Curs0r> con-man, you don't really set up aiglx
[09:21] <ShminkyBoy> <-- first xchat use
[09:21] <Fleebailey66> with alt cd at least
[09:21] <con-man> Curs0r: ok
[09:21] <oskude> ReinH: im pretty sure edgy has option (in graphical installer) to select which hd mbr to install
[09:21] <con-man> Curs0r: its not an option when I log on
[09:22] <Curs0r> con-man, that's a pretty well documented procedure at ubuntuguide.org
[09:22] <Aquarius> Can someone tell me how to de-register from launchpad?
[09:22] <ReinH> Cool, well worst thing that could happen is that it doesn't give me the option to boot from the 2nd drive, right?
[09:22] <Curs0r> con-man, what gpu?
[09:22] <kishan> ReinH: one suggestion install the dual boot on hard disk 1 and make fat partion on other hard disk so that u can use for both windows and ubuntu
[09:22] <whyameye> oskude: it's an ai a graphic designer made for me. She tried to export to svg for me but somehow the svg is bitmapped...
[09:22] <con-man> Curs0r: nvidia 7600
[09:23] <jrib> Aquarius: try #launchpad maybe
[09:23] <oskude> ReinH: no, the worst that can happen is that it install grub in hd2 mbr, and that is not set as boot hd in bios, so windows bootloader is started from hd1 (if that the boot hd in bios)
[09:23] <superkirbyartist> How can I use my iMac modem?
[09:23] <ReinH> oskude: right, which would just mean it would boot into windows as normal, right?
[09:23] <Curs0r> con-man, follow this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Beryl.2FAIGLX_.28Nvidia.29 but don't install the beta driver, use the normal one
[09:23] <drivera90> G'day. What command do I use to get x-chat?
[09:23] <oskude> whyameye: lol, so, inkscape cant read .ai and freehand cant export svg... pick your blame ;)
[09:23] <Fleebailey66> best dual boot site
[09:23] <Fleebailey66> http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/
[09:24] <oskude> ReinH: yup
[09:24] <kishan> oskude: i think in the bios there is option of booting from which hard disk
[09:24] <ReinH> kishan: There are now drivers for WinXP to read/write EXT partitions
[09:24] <oskude> kishan: yes, but to have to change that for changing os is not a nice option..
[09:24] <ReinH> And TBH I'm less worried about borking windows, so I don't mind using them
[09:24] <drivera90> apt-get install x-chat?
[09:24] <whyameye> oskude: the thing is that inkscape is supposed to be able to read ai with the perlmagick package installed. But I am getting an error and Google isn't helping me. I'm downloading xara now...
[09:25] <minerale> what is the name for the restricted (?native?) ati drivers ?
[09:25] <kishan> ReinH: but it is alwys safe to use fat common to both linux and windows
[09:25] <Curs0r> con-man, son you will be happy like this http://123pichosting.com/images/2614Screenshot-4.png
[09:25] <Curs0r> soon*
[09:25] <ReinH> kishan: sure, but I may run into the file size restriction
[09:25] <oskude> well, and how about searching why freehand cant export svg ? its an open standard so there are no objections...
[09:26] <oskude> whyameye: and xaraxtreme is not "ready" yet, so it maybe doesnt read .ai files...
[09:26] <kishan> oskude if one install the ubuntu and windows on say hard disk 1 so grub will be on one right
[09:26] <dcordes> how can i install beryl form svn? i'm using edgy
[09:26] <drivera90> What command do I use to install x-chat (or any similar IRC app)?
[09:26] <oskude> kishan: yup, with the "old" installer
[09:27] <oskude> whyameye: and ai files and svg are not complitely compatible...
[09:27] <n2diy> driver90 apt-get install xchat.
[09:27] <kishan> oskude: in live cd there is no option of where to install the grup it automatically checks for the other OS and install the grub at MBR thats what happened for me
[09:27] <oskude> kishan: you mean dapper ?
[09:28] <kishan> oskude: yes
[09:28] <oskude> kishan: roger
[09:28] <we6jb1> Hi
[09:28] <we6jb1> I have a question
[09:28] <Curs0r> i'll bet you do lol
[09:28] <we6jb1> hold on
[09:28] <rance> I need a suggestion for a k/ubuntu solution to a problem, the freebsd-games package has a util called "banner" which allows you to make "Happy Birthday" banners on continuous feed dot-matirx printiers, how do I do this in k/ubuntu
[09:29] <whyameye> oskude: xanax is failing on opening the ai file...
[09:29] <Joakim> Ok
[09:29] <we6jb1> I am looking for a motherboard that is 100% compatible with ubuntu
[09:29] <oskude> whyameye: well, i assume ai is a closed file spec, no ?
[09:30] <Curs0r> we6jb1, i have aasus a8n-sli premium and it could not be happier
[09:30] <kishan> oskude: i too have a problem i think it it because of the dual can u help..when i try to hibernate on my dual boot laptop it erases the swap,i mean the swap is no longer recognized and when i press the powerbutoon it reboot and my swap partion is unrecozined then i have to reformat my linux swap can u help
[09:30] <djidane> salut
[09:30] <we6jb1> ok I have a intel chip
[09:30] <we6jb1> right now
[09:30] <Curs0r> we6jb1, what series?
[09:30] <djidane> jaimerai savoir c koi la commande pour reconfigurer le serveur x ?
[09:31] <Curs0r> we6jb1, more info is always better than less
[09:31] <oskude> kishan: sorry, never used hibernate...
[09:31] <we6jb1> This is a normal intel pentium 4 chip
[09:31] <manu__> !de
[09:31] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:31] <oskude> whyameye: your better of you demand a svg file, as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Illustrator_Artwork
[09:31] <Joakim> I have a problem. When I opens a program, for example, Gaim. If I have some other program open, Gaim will lay under all of the other programs. So, to get Gaim on the top, I need to click on it on the panel. It some kind of minimized when I opens it. Somebody know how to fix this?
[09:32] <we6jb1> I think 2 or something mhz
[09:32] <Curs0r> we6jb1, mobo-wise that places you in a terrible position for linux. someone else may be able to recommend something with that arch
[09:32] <kishan> oskude: as far i came to know when u hibernate the information is stored in swap and it should actually re read from the swap when i push the power button is my understanding right
[09:33] <whyameye> oskude: yeah she gave me an svg file but it is bitmapped. She doesn't know how else to save as svg...
[09:33] <oskude> kishan: or ram. yes thats the only i "know" too :)
[09:33] <Joakim> I have a problem. When I opens a program, for example, Gaim. If I have some other program open, Gaim will lay under all of the other programs. So, to get Gaim on the top, I need to click on it on the panel. It some kind of minimized when I opens it. Somebody know how to fix this?
[09:33] <shaman47> Hi
[09:33] <Curs0r> we6jb1, anything intel made after the p3 and before the core2 was pretty lousy
[09:34] <jrib> Joakim: what window manager are you using?
[09:34] <oskude> whyameye: export -> svg... thats all i can guess, call adobe... and svg souldnt definetly be a bitmap...
[09:34] <shaman47> Does anyone here like cheese?
[09:34] <we6jb1> It says, Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
[09:34] <jrib> !offtopic | shaman47
[09:34] <ubotu> shaman47:  is Error: unresolvable <alias>
[09:34] <shaman47> oops wrong chat
[09:34] <shaman47> bye
[09:34] <Joakim> Gnome
[09:34] <jrib> Seveas: ping what is that ^
[09:35] <Arigato> i have 2 sound cards, is there a way to get sound playing on both?
[09:35] <luisgd> Hi, I'm running Mandriva on my sister's computer, and its bootloader has a feature that allows me to choose which operating system to boot into and how long the menu for choosing an operating system is up. I wanted to know how to make GRUB do that so that I can install ubuntu on that machine without having a problem with my sister
[09:35] <Seveas> jrib, someone f'ed up
[09:35] <Seveas> !-offtopic
[09:35] <ubotu> offtopic is <alias> #ubuntu - added by Seveas on 2006-06-18 16:51:01
[09:35] <Seveas> !-#ubuntu
[09:35] <ubotu> ubuntu has no aliases - added by Seveas on 2006-06-19 10:40:14
[09:35] <Seveas> !#ubtunu
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubtunu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <Seveas> !#ubuntu
[09:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[09:35] <Seveas> oh, ffs...
[09:35] <oskude> whyameye: or maybe its here http://www.adobe.com/svg/illustrator/saveforweb.html
[09:36] <Joakim> Yeah=
[09:36] <Curs0r> luisgd, man grub
[09:36] <Joakim> ?*
[09:36] <luisgd> should I type that at the terminal?
[09:36] <Curs0r> yes
[09:36] <Joakim> I have a problem. When I opens a program, for example, Gaim. If I have some other program open, Gaim will lay under all of the other programs. So, to get Gaim on the top, I need to click on it on the panel. It some kind of minimized when I opens it. Somebody know how to fix this?
[09:37] <Curs0r> Joakim, which WM?
[09:37] <luisgd> okay, thank you, if I have a problem, I'll come back here to ask
[09:37] <we6jb1> So is that bad?
[09:37] <Asder> hi
[09:37] <drivera90> Seveas killed ubotu?
[09:38] <Seveas> yes
[09:38] <Curs0r> we6jb1, i'm just saying I can't recommend anything for you since my opinion of that line is biased
[09:38] <oskude> sorry for ot, but anyone know what software is used here ? (3d file browser) http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zyx1MoNSkw0
[09:38] <Seveas> someone fucked up its database
[09:38] <drivera90> How heartless.
[09:38] <Seveas> I'm pissed
[09:38] <Curs0r> poor poor ubotu
[09:38] <we6jb1> oh
[09:38] <we6jb1> :(
[09:38] <Curs0r> we6jb1, shuttle usually makes something inexpensive and stable
[09:39] <jarlath> I've just installed Edgy Eft on my PIII laptop. Are there any caveats before I upgrade my packages?
[09:39] <Asder> i have a ASUS WL-167g wireless adapter
[09:39] <Curs0r> jarlath, install in health
[09:39] <Asder> how can i install it on ubuntu?
[09:39] <l0v3`PiKLi4kA^> Asder
[09:39] <jarlath> Thanks Curs0r!
[09:39] <l0v3`PiKLi4kA^> oO
[09:40] <Curs0r> does ndiswrapper wok in ubuntu?
[09:40] <jarlath> Curs0r: how did you know my name in english?
[09:40] <Curs0r> jarlath, i just used the tab key lol
[09:40] <Joakim> I have GNOME
[09:40] <Asder> its a
[09:41] <jarlath> Curs0r: interesting :)
[09:41] <Asder> usb key
[09:41] <l0v3`PiKLi4kA^> Ubugtu, tell about ubuntu-install jarlath | private
[09:41] <l0v3`PiKLi4kA^> Oo
[09:41] <l0v3`PiKLi4kA^> ^_^
[09:41] <Asder> to connect by router
[09:41] <n2diy> I'm working on my back up/restore procedures, is there anything in /usr/local, and /usr/bin I should not overwrite on my test box?
[09:41] <whyameye> oskude: I got it doing what I wanted. She gave me a pdf file that works fine. I didn't realize this earlier...
[09:41] <l0v3`PiKLi4kA^> Ubugtu, tell about ubuntu-install _DvP_
[09:41] <l0v3`PiKLi4kA^> Ubugtu, tell about ubuntu-install l0v3`PiKLi4kA^
[09:41] <Joakim> I have GNOME
[09:41] <Curs0r> jarlath, you may notice that your name appears on the chat when you speak
[09:42] <Curs0r> con-man, wb
[09:42] <oskude> whyameye: happy editing!
[09:43] <Joakim> I HAVE GNOME!!!
[09:43] <oskude> Joakim: and ?
[09:44] <Joakim> When I open programs, it lays down under all of the other that is open
[09:44] <jarlath> Curs0r: On my screen, my name comes up as iarlaith, which is Gaelic.
[09:44] <oskude> Joakim: was it allways like that ?
[09:44] <zim> hi all anyone in here played with gpsdrive mucj
[09:44] <Joakim> No
[09:45] <oskude> Joakim: and what did you do before it started to act like that ?
[09:45] <Curs0r> Joakim, I don't know how to set the zOrder in gnome
[09:45] <Joakim> I re-installed Beryl
[09:45] <markeib> hey when i start the computer i always have an error saying that the wrong kernel module is loaded
[09:45] <oskude> Joakim: ah so this is hapening in beryl ?
[09:45] <zim> i am trying to get gpsfetchmap.pl to work with google maps
[09:45] <zim> any ideas
[09:45] <Joakim> Yep
[09:46] <Curs0r> Joakim, see with that we're no longer discussing metacity, we're talking about emerald
[09:46] <oskude> Joakim: well, beryl has an own room, i think it was #ubuntu-xgl (ubotu is "down")
[09:47] <Curs0r> Joakim, it's a broad based shot but you could try setting emerald to defaults
[09:47] <Joakim> k
[09:47] <W7DAHawk> Question:
[09:47] <W7DAHawk> I'm using Ubuntu 6.10 the Edgy Eft
[09:47] <W7DAHawk> I've been connecting to a Windows Server 2000 Terminal Server.
[09:47] <W7DAHawk> I have been using BOTH "Gnome RDP" and "Terminal Server Client" (tsclient) successfully.
[09:47] <W7DAHawk> Problem: the Windows Server 2000 makes the connection license "temporary" for 90-Days unless I connect using Windows XP Pro.
[09:47] <W7DAHawk> It works just fine for 90-days at a time then starts giving warning messages a few days before the 90th day expiration of the temporary license.
[09:47] <W7DAHawk> Is there a known workaround / fix?
[09:47] <oskude> !enter
[09:47] <Curs0r> whoa flooder
[09:47] <unnutz> is there any free *only* DNS control panel ?
[09:48] <unnutz> (bind9)
[09:48] <oskude> W7DAHawk: and wheres the part that this is an ubuntu problem ?
[09:48] <mc44> !enter | W7DAHawk
[09:48] <Curs0r> oskude, beat me to it hahaha
[09:48] <packagedeliverer> executing a shell script gives me permission denied... while I'm logged in as root, what could be the problem?
[09:49] <Eclypse> hi all, how can I install all debian packages that are within a folder through the terminal?
[09:49] <Curs0r> packagedeliverer, chmod 755 thescript
[09:49] <La_PaRCa> packagedeliverer, the permission is not set to execute
[09:49] <Mogz> Eclypse: dpkg -i ./*.deb maybe?
[09:49] <oskude> Eclypse: please dont install debian packages, just ubuntu packages!
[09:49] <W7DAHawk> Well oskude, I'm using Ubuntu, maybe you missed that in the early lines ... but if this is too specific a question about using a GNome App, just say so dude, I'll go else where, ok?
[09:49] <Eclypse> umm
[09:49] <packagedeliverer> Curs0r was right, silly me, thanks !
[09:50] <Eclypse> I'm not a retard oskude, this is a backup from /var/cache/apt/archives/
[09:50] <oskude> W7DAHawk: well, youre asking how to not to pay ms but still continue to use ms products ?
[09:50] <packagedeliverer> and La_PaRCa , thanks too
[09:50] <W7DAHawk> No
[09:50] <W7DAHawk> that is not the question
[09:50] <Curs0r> W7DAHawk, you're trying to figure out how to stay connected without a TS CAL?
[09:51] <oskude> Eclypse: well, sorry... it would be normal for this channel to want install debian packages ;)
[09:51] <W7DAHawk> in fact I manage at a MS Certified Partner, so I'm not screwing MS, you got an attitude problem oskude?
[09:51] <orgy`> hi
[09:51] <Eclypse> oskude, lol yeah.
[09:51] <orgy`> anyone knows a tool to open *lit files?
[09:51] <oskude> W7DAHawk: nope, you ?
[09:51] <W7DAHawk> Nope
[09:51] <Eclypse> oskude, I just don't like downloading 250MB of packages on dialup . . .
[09:52] <mats> orgy`: google on it ;)
[09:52] <oskude> Eclypse: did you try: sudo dpkg -i *.deb ?
[09:52] <Eclypse> oskude, yes, and it's working.
[09:52] <orgy`> mats did that but fail trying to compile "clit" ;)
[09:53] <Curs0r> W7DAHawk, you need to install a client access license for your machine on the terminal server. yours is a windows question
[09:53] <Capslock118> perhaps some one could assist me, I am using opendchub, I can connect through the local machine using a dc client, however I cannot connect with a different machine on the local network.
[09:53] <extern> I have a problem... I just installed ubuntu and it doesn't seem that it created a username for me
[09:53] <extern> how can I create one myself?
[09:53] <W7DAHawk> Windows Server 2000 does the same thing for it's own Windows Home & RDP, and if this is a well known issue why does Ubuntu even bother with the TSC if at best it will work for only 90-days?
[09:53] <Curs0r> Capslock118, i assume your local network uses private ips?
[09:54] <Curs0r> W7DAHawk, it's not ubuntu that prevents it from working
[09:54] <foo> er, having some issues with ethernet. mii-tools says no MII interfaces found. What modules do I need to have loaded? This is a brand new motherboard and it was working fine yesterday. I had a little issue with vmware and I'm thinking that borked something. Thanks
[09:54] <RichB> I've got an Ubuntu Edgy box one which the gnome menus at the top and bottom are not responding (although strangely the icons in the "tray" at the top right are responding).  In windows I'd either use ctrl-alt-del to bring up taskman or use ctrl-esc to do the same. What is the equivalent on Ubuntu? I guess I'd prefer not to do ctrl-del or ctrl-
[09:54] <oskude> extern: adduser or useradd (forgot which is "better")
[09:55] <Capslock118> Cur0r: it is all connected through a home switch/router, and aside from the hub, its all static IPs. However the hub machine currently has the same address its had all this time
[09:55] <extern> I already tried, but I don't think that I succeeded, because I can't login to it
[09:55] <W7DAHawk> CursOr it's an issue RELATED to an app that is included with Ubuntu, if you don't have the knowledge to answer the question, it's not helpful to simply lay it elsewhere
[09:55] <extern> what paramteres should I use to create a default user?
[09:55] <extern> which should be created by the installation
[09:55] <Curs0r> Capslock118, i had problems with routed connections and DC only allowing 1 connection at a time because the router was sending its ip for every connection
[09:56] <oskude> RichB: you can restart the gnome panel with "killall gnome-panel"
[09:56] <Curs0r> W7DAHawk, working for 90 days then suddenly stopping sounds like a cal issue to me
[09:56] <Capslock118> Curs0r: what did you do to fix that? Also, I tried while local machine was not logged in, and it still gave me the issue
[09:56] <oskude> !adduser | extern
[09:56] <ubotu> extern: To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo
[09:56] <Curs0r> Capslock118, does your router by chance have a dmz host set?
[09:56] <RichB> oskude: How do I issue the command killall ? That's my problem you see
[09:57] <W7DAHawk> Great, thanks fot the help, sheez. THis is joke
[09:57] <Curs0r> what an idiot, he just didn't read the server 2000 ts manual
[09:57] <Capslock118> Curs0r: i could have a machine set to dmz, but I currently do now, plus, I think that is only for external network connections
[09:57] <Capslock118> not*
[09:57] <Curs0r> well dc is external right?
[09:57] <oskude> RichB: if you cant get a terminal, you could go to ctrl+alt+f1, login and type that (ctrl+alt+f7 gets you back in x windows)
[09:58] <Capslock118> Curs0r: i am only trying to have a machine that is in the local network connect
[09:58] <Capslock118> and I am trying to direct dc++ to the local IP and not the external IP
[09:58] <Capslock118> i will try that real quick though
[09:58] <Curs0r> Capslock118,  you want something from outside your network to connect to something inside your network right?
[09:59] <RichB> oskude: So how do I get to a terminal if gnome-panel isn't working?
[09:59] <Capslock118> Curs0r: no, machine a has the hub, machine b which is on the same network cannot connect to machine a's hub
[09:59] <oskude> RichB: maybe with alt+f2 (or what i said earlier)
[09:59] <RichB> oskude: Is there any GUI way of doing that
[09:59] <RichB> oskude: It's my wife's computer and she's not really used to doing command line stuff
[09:59] <Capslock118> sais actively refused by target machine...no firewall is turned on either machine
[09:59] <oskude> RichB: you can start gnome-terminal with alt+f2 ?
[10:00] <oskude> RichB: well, you could allso try alt+f2, type xkill and then select the gnome panel with the skull...
[10:00] <Curs0r> Capslock118, is there maybe some internal dc setting you need to change to allow hosts? I'm sorry it's been a while since i used dc
[10:01] <RichB> oskude: Tried alt-F2 but nothing happens. I guess whatever was watching for that has hung
[10:01] <Capslock118> Curs0r: its ok, your help is really appreciated, I am not entirely sure about that, the config in opendchub seems to be set up correctly
[10:01] <oskude> RichB: ah ok, then your best bet is virtual terminal, ctrl+alt+f1
[10:01] <warlock> How to shutdown eth0, and turn it on again? (like rebooting the network) ?
[10:01] <RichB> oskude: Cheers. It's not ideal. Hopefully there'll be something much better in Fiesty
[10:01] <Curs0r> oskude, i'm not going crazy right? that guy was having an issue with his temporary cal expiring right?
[10:02] <oskude> warlock: sudo ifdown eth0
[10:02] <warlock> then to turn it on again?
[10:02] <II`et|Weirdo> and sudo ifup eth0
[10:02] <oskude> RichB: and that would be ?
[10:02] <tjb891> does anyone here  use the ehome netoworking wireless card they were selling for 1.99 at compusa this black friday?
[10:03] <Capslock118> setting the external port did nothing
[10:03] <warlock> I think there's an another ocmmand for this, isnt there? :o
[10:03] <oskude> Curs0r: dunno
[10:03] <warlock> And is there a way to 'refresh' the network ip?
[10:03] <oskude> warlock: you mean sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:03] <eegore> in dapper, where in the inittab is the setting to set the run level to level 3
[10:04] <m12> when I open "localhost"  in Firefox, then click on phpmyadmin, it loads the "save file" screen.  what is my problem?
[10:04] <Curs0r> Capslock118, I don't know what to tell you, other than that you my need to connect to the external ip of the hub if it won't bind to local and external
[10:04] <oskude> m12: php not installed/configured/running right, maybe...
[10:04] <warlock> And is there a way to reboot SSH?
[10:04] <extern> how can I install synaptic package manager? I don't seem to be able to find it anywhere, I believe it is not installed
[10:04] <warlock> restart*
[10:04] <Curs0r> m12, your php preprocessor is not functioning
[10:05] <oskude> warlock: guess ? sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[10:05] <extern> and there's no add/remove option under applications either
[10:05] <spunk_> Any suggestions for a desent viewer for realplayer, quicktime or windows media? (all streaming)
[10:05] <m12> so I need to get what?
[10:05] <m12> php5?
[10:05] <Curs0r> oskude, sshd?
[10:05] <spunk_> tried vlc but no luck.. :-(
[10:05] <oskude> Curs0r: its called ssh under ubuntu
[10:05] <foo> I have an AMD64bit proc .. do I get 64-bit PC (AMD64) alternate install CD ?
[10:05] <foo> probably
[10:06] <Curs0r> foo, do you want to use flash in webpages?
[10:06] <oskude> m12: i did sudo apt-get install php5