[15:02] <jrib> mofaph: if you read « man loadkeys » it has some discussion about the reasons for only root being able to change console layout
[15:03] <compdoc> can you connect from the lan?
[15:03] <iceroot> i have an encrypted /home/user, i want to automaticly mount my sd-card into ~/Movies, the problem is that the system is trying to mount the sd-card while mounting (using fstab) at that point there is no /home/user. what are my possibility to mount the sd-card automaticly? a logon-script?
[15:04] <mofaph> jrib: OK, I am reading it.
[15:04] <jrib> iceroot: mount it somewhere outside your home and create a symlink called ~/Movies pointing to the mount point
[15:04] <Pici> iceroot: You could mount your sd-card elsewhere and put a symlink at ~Movies instead.
[15:04] <th0r> iceroot: put the mount command into .bashrc or .profile for the user, that way it won't be executed until after the user logs in
[15:05] <iceroot> th0r: but everytime i open the bash it will try to mount again
[15:05] <MeanEYE> iceroot: Cards and other medias are mounted either on /mnt or /media. So my suggestion is to mount it there.
[15:05] <iceroot> jrib: Pici sounds good, thanks
[15:05] <tarmstrong> hi everyone, my laptop keeps freezing randomly, and I'm looking for help troubleshooting the problem.
[15:05] <th0r> iceroot: I think there is a .bash_login as well....been a long time since I messed with it
[15:05] <iceroot> th0r: ah ok
[15:06] <th0r> iceroot: or it might have been .profile....one of those only executes one time
[15:06] <phong_> hi guys
[15:06] <iceroot> MeanEYE: then i will mount it ti /media/ and then put a symlink to ~/Movies after login
[15:07] <graingert> is it possible to add a custom download server to ubuntu eg in the "Choose a Download Server" dialogue
[15:07] <tarmstrong> I'm running ubuntu 11.04 on a thinkpad x220, and the display keeps freezing. I can't even ctrl-alt-f1 into a terminal.
[15:07] <th0r> iceroot: you could also put the mount command into a script and execute it at login ... in xfce it is Sessions and Startup
[15:07] <iceroot> th0r: yes that was what i mean with logon-script :)
[15:07] <MeanEYE> iceroot: That will work easily.
[15:08] <th0r> iceroot: that might be the best bet. It would be a simple two line script
[15:09] <iceroot> th0r: the other way is to put the mount in the startup-part. at that point there is a ~
[15:09] <tarmstrong> I can't find anything in the logs either. Does anyone know where I should look to pinpoint the problem?
[15:09] <graingert> tarmstrong: have you set any custom compiz settings?
[15:09] <graingert> tarmstrong: and have you tried running with unity2D
[15:09] <th0r> iceroot: right, but I think you will have to use the full path instead of ~
[15:09] <graingert> instead of compiz
[15:09] <iceroot> th0r: hm but that i have to umout it, because ubuntu will umount my ~ and encrpyt it
[15:10] <iceroot> th0r: not if it is /bin/bash
[15:10] <iceroot> th0r: i will use the symlink so i dont have to umount it when umounting home
[15:11] <robert05_hu> hi
[15:11] <graingert> robert05_hu: hyea
[15:11] <iceroot> when is /etc/fstab read? only at boot? so i have to reboot to see if my changes are correct?
[15:11] <jrib> iceroot: you can run « mount -a »
[15:11] <Selassie> !nl
[15:12] <iceroot> jrib: thx
[15:12] <tarmstrong> graingert: no custom compiz settings. unity2d -- where can I find information on it?
[15:14] <luis_> Does anyone know if ITunes works on ubuntu ?
[15:15] <tarmstrong> graingert: nevermind, found it. Is there any way I could determine whether or not Unity's OpenGL stuff is the problem?
[15:15] <xangua> luis_ does not
[15:15] <vaishakh_em>  i get plugin error messages on transferring my joomla site to another computer.. what might be the reason ?
[15:15] <luis_> Thanks
[15:15] <iceroot> !ipod | luis_
[15:15] <graingert> tarmstrong: compiz crash handlers etc
[15:15] <xangua> !appdb | luis_
[15:15] <xangua> if you mean wine, cheche database
[15:15] <iceroot> vaishakh_em: what is the error?
[15:15] <graingert> tarmstrong: to check to see if it's not any of your settings you can run unity --reset
[15:16] <iceroot> xangua: not working with wine
[15:17] <gabrielht44> Hola, Por favor necesito ayuda, no logro configurar el sonido de mi PVR-TV 305U (usb para TV)
[15:17] <ikonia> !es | gabrielht44
[15:18] <graingert> tarmstrong: see what thinkwiki has to say about your thinkpad
[15:18] <gabrielht44> ubottu,  Gracias
[15:19] <tdk-er> Hi, I'm in hte live
[15:19] <tdk-er> Hi, I'm in the live and i downloaded the iso and i've to burn it, how can do it?
[15:20] <ikonia> tdk-er: it's not easy if you are using the CD drive
[15:20] <tarmstrong> graingert: if it was compiz crashing, would that prevent me from ctl-alt-f1'ing into a terminal?
[15:20] <tdk-er> ikonia: how can I do?
[15:20] <ikonia> tdk-er: you can't if you're using the CD drive
[15:22] <Saturn2888> When cleaning an SSD off for being unseasoned. How do I write all 1s to it? I figured I might be able to use dd somehow, but there's no /dev/one.
[15:22] <milagre> hello, where can i find one good torrent client to ubuntu?
[15:22] <graingert> Saturn2888: try shred
[15:22] <Pici> !torrent |  milagre
[15:23] <Saturn2888> graingert: ok. Is it pre-installed?
[15:23] <edbian> Saturn2888: most people write 0's from /dev/null/
[15:23] <Saturn2888> edbian: ah. Well I need to write 1s anyway
[15:23] <graingert> edbian: linux optimizes 0 writes
[15:23] <milagre> i already install utorrent but when i try to download one file de progress bar does not work
[15:23] <edbian> graingert: How?
[15:23] <Saturn2888> edbian: 1s clean SSDs. 0s will salt them with data.
[15:24] <edbian> Saturn2888: how?
[15:24] <graingert> milagre: try using an ubuntu app - or go into #wine
[15:24] <graingert> ebian: unalocated = all 0
[15:24] <th0r> milagre: funny, utorrent wasn't in the list you just got
[15:24] <Pici> edbian: /dev/null is a sink, /dev/zero for getting data.
[15:24] <milagre> grainget: thanks
[15:24] <milagre> th0r: patient!
[15:24] <Saturn2888> edbian: it's how flash memory works. 1 = no data.
[15:24] <edbian> Pici: thanks :)
[15:24] <milagre> lol
[15:24] <edbian> Saturn2888: interesting!
[15:25] <graingert> Saturn2888: but because of the wearleveling of ssd's you can't really get data back off them
[15:25] <Saturn2888> graingert: yeah.
[15:25] <milagre> one more question, where i can find one virtual machine free to install in ubuntu? In your point of view what is the better vm machine to work?
[15:26] <Saturn2888> milagre: virtual box
[15:26] <graingert> Saturn2888: I seem to already have shred
[15:26] <milagre> thank you saturno...
[15:26] <graingert> Saturn2888: so I think it's doable
[15:26] <Saturn2888> graingert: Great. I'm booting up linux off a USB drive now to do this.
[15:26] <milagre> the last question...
[15:26] <milagre> what is the best way to recover my root passwd???? lol
[15:26] <Saturn2888> milagre: the other one is VMware Server but it's not really supported and hasn't worked in Firefox since 3.5
[15:26] <Guest57396> Going to sleep!
[15:27] <milagre> thank you Saturn2888
[15:27] <Guest57396> .
[15:27] <escott> milagre, there is no root password, but if you have physical access you can chroot into the machine
[15:28] <Saturn2888> graingert: I see -z in shred, but is there one for writing ones?
[15:28] <milagre> escott: i forgot the root pas... what can i do?
[15:28] <graingert> Saturn2888: dang
[15:28] <vibhav> milagre wait
[15:28] <milagre> vibgav: hahahah
[15:29] <milagre> i will lost my job rsrsr
[15:29] <tyler_d> I am trying to create a startup disk to a folder rather than to a removable device; any help would be fantastic :)
[15:29] <vibhav> milagre keep patience
[15:29] <vibhav> milagre, I am researching
[15:30] <milagre> thank you so much vibhav
[15:30] <graingert> Saturn2888: http://linux.die.net/man/1/scrub
[15:30] <ikonia> milagre: just boot into recovery mode
[15:30] <vibhav> milagre http://paste.ubuntu.com/690896/
[15:30] <dean__> Hi all I have flac files that I need to convert to mp3 320kbps is there a gui program that can do that at all thanks?
[15:30] <th0r> dean__: winff
[15:30] <milagre> oooh god, thank you! i will try it right now!
[15:31] <edbian> dean__: sound converter
[15:31] <dean__> th0r, Is it gui or cli?
[15:31] <ikonia> vibhav: how many times have you been told to not copy and paste things
[15:31] <dean__> edbian, Is that easy to use?
[15:31] <th0r> dean__: gui
[15:31] <ikonia> vibhav: you've just got that from a website, you've not tested that, you've not done it
[15:31] <Selassie> SELASSIE I
[15:31] <edbian> dean__: yes
[15:31] <edbian> dean__: extremely (and it's gui)
[15:31] <edbian> dean__: sudo apt-get install soundconverter
[15:31] <dean__> whats better winff or sound convertor?
[15:32] <th0r> dean__: define 'better'
[15:32] <edbian> dean__: Never used winff.  Found soundconverter and I never needed anything more.
[15:32] <dean__> edbian, Thats all I needed to hear lol
[15:32] <edbian> dean__: :)
[15:32] <graingert> Saturn2888: tr '\000' '\377' < /dev/zero
[15:32] <dean__> georgie
[15:32] <milagre> you are very good guys! comming to brazil please feel free to contact me for one happy hour<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:32] <IdleOne> vibhav: grub2 now uses the shift key.
[15:32] <edbian> georgie indeead
[15:32] <dean__> Thanks edbian
[15:32] <Saturn2888> Someone just told me that graingert :P. How do I do that to /dev/sda? Haha
[15:33] <dean__> edbian, Sorry was talking on messenger lol
[15:33] <edbian> dean__: sure
[15:33] <graingert> tr '\000' '\377' < /dev/zero | dd of=file
[15:33] <Guest51778> Hello, I want to know how to install Dropbox in my Ubantu
[15:34] <dean__> edbian, CBR is better than VBR am I right?
[15:34] <graingert> Guest51778: hey denis
[15:34] <Saturn2888> graingert: great :0
[15:34] <xangua> Guest51778: go to dropbox.com and follow the instructions
[15:34] <edbian> dean__: I believe so.  VBR is lower quality but is more efficient in bits vs quality
[15:35] <Saturn2888> graingert: 7.2MB/sec. This will take a while :p.
[15:35] <graingert> Saturn2888: nice
[15:35] <dean__> edbian, Ok cool thanks gonna try converting now lol
[15:35] <edbian> dean__: sure
[15:36] <Saturn2888> graingert: Shouldn't writing straight 1s to an SSD be really fast? hahaha. Shoot.
[15:36] <graingert> Saturn2888: it's not writing 1's btw it's writing True's
[15:36] <graingert> Saturn2888: or 255
[15:36] <Saturn2888> graingert: what's the difference?
[15:36] <graingert> Saturn2888: comes out in bytes
[15:36] <graingert> 255 = 0xFF
[15:36] <graingert> 1 = 0x01
[15:37] <Saturn2888> Ok. Hopefully that's the correct way to do it then.
[15:37] <dean__> edbian, It isn't quick I take it lol
[15:37] <Saturn2888> That's pretty crazy
[15:37] <graingert> Saturn2888: not really
[15:37] <vibhav> milagre use shift instead of ESC
[15:37] <Saturn2888> It is to me at least. Glad it's working though!
[15:37] <Saturn2888> 6MB/s ugh. It'll be a while :)
[15:38] <graingert> Saturn2888: why are you doing it?
[15:38] <graingert> seems a bit of SSD abuse
[15:38] <Saturn2888> Because the SSD is seasoned, and I wanna clean it so it's factory fresh so I can install a new OS
[15:38] <graingert> Saturn2888: what's wrong with quickformat?
[15:39] <escott> Saturn2888, if you are just doing a reinstall use hdparm to mark all blocks as free
[15:39] <edbian> dean__: no converter is fast
[15:39] <dean__> edbian, It has worked a charm got my motorhead flacs in mp3 format now your a legen
[15:39] <dean__> legend even lol
[15:39] <edbian> dean__: your welcome!
[15:39] <escott> Saturn2888, man hdparm | grep -C10 trim
[15:39] <Saturn2888> graingert: The drive still contains data. If all chips have 1s instead of 0s, then it will be able to write to anything otherwise it's gonna check if it's been written to, realize it has, read in the data, delete the blocks it needs, then write back over them. This is a huge issue.
[15:39] <dean__> edbian, For future reference as you seem like you know what your doing is there a flac cue splitter gui?
[15:40] <Saturn2888> escott: it doesn't have trim
[15:40] <edbian> dean__: I have never heard of one.  People generally don't edit cue files by hand. Just make a new cue file.
[15:40] <Saturn2888> escott: too old for trim.
[15:40] <jiahui> hello every
[15:40] <escott> Saturn2888, it may not support SATA TRIM but it may support a bulk non-sata trim.
[15:40] <jiahui> i have meet some problems
[15:40] <Saturn2888> escott: I dunno. Also, the mobo doesn't support it.
[15:40] <dean__> edbian, It was one flac file that was the only problem had to use medievil cue splitter in vbox windoze lol
[15:41] <graingert> !question | jiahui
[15:41] <mang0> How do I link an internal drive to /mnt/HDD2? I've got a folder in /mnt/ called HDD2 which was linked to my 2nd internal, but now doesn't seem to be. It won't mount on startup. How do I re-link them?
[15:41] <Saturn2888> escott: It's a Dell Mini 9. A little old for this.
[15:41] <edbian> dean__: mmm, yeah IDK  there might be one
[15:41] <calamari> hi. when I installed 10.04 on my laptop, I had it encrypt my disk. It also used ext4. Maybe there is some breakthrough in checking for ext4, but when it does a disk check, I swear it's not really checking the disk, it's way too quick compared to what I was used to on ext3. If I'm right, is there a way to do a fsck on my ext4 drive?
[15:41] <jrib> mang0: click on the drive in nautilus.  Or if you prefer, set it up so it mounts at boot in fstab (see: /msg ubottu fstab)
[15:41] <dean__> edbian, No worries worth a shot anyway thanks
[15:41] <graingert> calamari: one of the big things of ext4 was a breakthrough in diskchecking
[15:42] <jrib> calamari: one of the features of ext4 is faster fsck
[15:42] <graingert> _much_ faster
[15:42] <mang0> jrib: Fstab, that's it. Thankyou :). jrib: I would just click it in nautilus, but I have errors on startup. Won't boot, unless I press S to skip mounting
[15:42] <calamari> oh good... it seems nearly instantaneous
[15:42] <graingert> calamari: yep
[15:42] <graingert> fancy init
[15:42] <calamari> I was afraid it was just checking some outer shell
[15:42] <calamari> okay thanks :)
[15:42] <graingert> np
[15:43] <jiahui> graingert: my network icon in the panel has disappeared
[15:43] <graingert> jiahui: nohup nm-applet
[15:43] <Saturn2888> escott: It says extremely dangerous. I dunno why it's dangerous, but it's not really very informative on how to use it.
[15:44] <graingert> Saturn2888: dd = disk destroyer
[15:44] <jiahui> graingert: than what should i do ?
[15:44] <graingert> jiahui: that's it
[15:44] <graingert> unless it doesn't work
[15:44] <graingert> in which case I don't know
[15:45] <escott> Saturn2888, presumably because any data on the system would be irrevocably lost
[15:45] <Saturn2888> escott: great! That's what I want.
[15:46] <jiahui> graingert: it should be related to the nm-applet ? is that ?
[15:46] <dr_willis> Saturn2888:  you could clarify what you are doing/needing. :)
[15:46] <Polah> Saturn2888: What are you trying to do? Overwrite and destroy the data on your disk?
[15:46] <graingert> jiahui: nm-applet is the network icon
[15:47] <Saturn2888> I'm trying to 1 the drive. You know how you can write 0s to a hard drive? I wanna write 1s because it's an SSD. Writings 0s to an SSD actually does the opposite of what it does on a hard drive. This is why I wanna write 1s instead.
[15:47] <jiahui> graingert: OK,thank you for your answer
[15:47] <majorastro> what
[15:47] <graingert> Polah: he wants to TRIM an unseasoned drive
[15:47] <graingert> Polah: as the drive thinks it is full
[15:47] <majorastro> ok
[15:47] <Saturn2888> seasoned*
[15:48] <graingert> oops yeah
[15:48] <graingert> that
[15:49] <majorastro> what
[15:49] <auronandace> how do i use an external monitor that is a different screen-size to my laptop display?
[15:49] <escott> Saturn2888, i don't understand your statement that "writing 0s does the opposite". from the firmwares perspective both mark all sectors as in use.
[15:49] <wildbat> Saturn2888: if you know how to 0s
[15:49] <Saturn2888> escott: Not true.
[15:50] <dr_willis> auronandace:  for my nvidia chipsets i just enable it via nvidia-settings..
[15:50] <wildbat> Saturn2888: if you know how to 0s, you know how to 1s it
[15:50] <Saturn2888> escott: if the firmware sees 0s, it's in use
[15:50] <soreau> auronandace: What  happens when you plug it in? or what is the problem exactly?
[15:50] <Polah> Saturn2888, dd if=file of=/dev/sdX
[15:50] <Saturn2888> wildbat: Not really. dd if=/dev/zero makes sense. There's no way to 1 it in the same manner except how graingert and I came up with
[15:50] <Polah> Saturn2888: Beforehand do echo "something here" > file
[15:51] <auronandace> soreau: hang on, i'll fiddle with nvidia settings
[15:51] <dr_willis> gee what if you write NULL's to it...
[15:51] <Polah> Saturn2888: Any value held in "file" would do the trick
[15:51] <Saturn2888> probably not good
[15:51] <Polah> Saturn2888: actually no, that would leave some bits blank
[15:51] <Saturn2888> Polah: yeah, but file has to be 16GB.
[15:51] <wildbat> Saturn2888: you cat pipe to dd ~ make a little c that generate 1s
[15:51] <Polah> Saturn2888: dd will repeat until it's covered the entire disk.
[15:52] <wildbat> dr_willis: that give you 0s too .
[15:52] <dr_willis> gee do you mean ascii 1's or binary ones...
[15:52] <dr_willis> all this seems a little weird to me... :)
[15:52] <Saturn2888> I think bit-wise 1s
[15:52] <graingert> dr_willis: 0xFF
[15:52] <soreau> dr_willis: I believe they're referring to bits while NULL is a character (of 8 0's) AFAIU
[15:53] <escott> Saturn2888, where have you seen this. if I try to store a file that is in fact all 1s on an ssd what happens to the blocks? they can't just be treated as not-in-use and allowed to be overwritten by whatever else comes along
[15:53] <antiphysicist> s there a simple solution to make a seperate partition for home directory which is accessible in windows? I was about to try using a fat32 but apparently links not supported leads to serious problems?
[15:53] <dr_willis> antiphysicist:  you cant use fat32 for home  :)
[15:53] <graingert> antiphysicist: there is ext3/4 support for windows
[15:53] <tensorpudding> ext3
[15:53] <tensorpudding> i don't think ext4
[15:53] <graingert> antiphysicist: as long as you disable journaling
[15:53] <dr_willis> antiphysicist:  and linux can read/wtite to ntfs fine these days
[15:53] <Saturn2888> graingert: oh serious? I remember that being wonky
[15:54] <dr_willis> i think some of the ext3 tools now support ext4
[15:54] <graingert> antiphysicist: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/08/access-ext4-ext3-or-ext2-partitions-in.html
[15:54] <escott> antiphysicist, you don't want your /home on ntfs. the permission models are different
[15:54] <tensorpudding> for reading, not writing
[15:54] <graingert> V 0.51  Support writing to ext4 volumes w/ flex_bg
[15:54] <dr_willis> writing to ext2/3/4 from windows i found.. problematic. :)
[15:55] <antiphysicist> graingert: how would I disable journaling and what are the drawbacks? dr_willis so you're suggesting to use ntfs for my home partition and then windows will be able to access it?
[15:55] <dr_willis> antiphysicist:  you cant use ntfs for home.. it does not support the proper permissions
[15:55] <faryshta> Hi. How can I install 11.10 from USB? PendriveLinux couldn't help me.
[15:55] <Polah> Saturn2888, why exactly do you need to zero the drives?
[15:55] <escott> antiphysicist, and you dont want it on fat32 because there are no permissions. you want to mount an NTFS partition to a folder ~/windows and put files you need in both there
[15:55] <dr_willis> antiphysicist:  make some shared NTFS partition if you need to share files
[15:55] <Gnea> antiphysicist: you should use samba to access /home
[15:55] <Saturn2888> escott: but those are ascii 1s not bit-wise 1s. I have to write a 1 to every 4K sector of data. Reading about how you can read from 4K pages but only write to 512K blocks changes things because it shows you what you can and cannot do with an SSD. It slows it down when you wanna write to something larger.
[15:55] <tensorpudding> it's much better to use NTFS from Linux than ext4 from Windows
[15:55] <dr_willis> antiphysicist:  then your user can store stuff there if needed
[15:55] <Saturn2888> Polah: speed.
[15:55] <graingert> antiphysicist: http://fenidik.blogspot.com/2010/03/ext4-disable-journal.html
[15:56] <faryshta> What does hybrid iso mean? Can I burn the .iso on a usb?
[15:56] <Polah> Saturn2888: And how will it improve speed?
[15:56] <tensorpudding> thanks to ntfs-3g you can even somewhat handle ACLs correctly
[15:56] <dr_willis> faryshta:  you can dd the iso to a usb. I belive.
[15:56] <Gnea> antiphysicist: of course, you could also just make something like a /data partition as ntfs and then symlink it from your ~
[15:56] <Saturn2888> Everyone who doesn't understand the 1s and 0s things about SSDs -> http://www.anandtech.com/show/2738. Specific page which shows a lot: http://www.anandtech.com/show/2738/5
[15:56] <faryshta> dr_willis: thanks, but then I can boot from the usb?
[15:57] <dr_willis> faryshta:  thats sort of the whole point. :)
[15:57] <jzaksh> anyone have thoughts on what this means? php5-cli : Depends: php5-common (= 5.2.10.dfsg.1-2ubuntu6.5) but 5.3.5-1ubuntu7.2 is to be installed
[15:57] <escott> Saturn2888, im not saying ascii 1s. I'm saying that I have a binary file maybe its an image, and the middle of this image is pure white so all bytes are maxed out and it is straight 1s. the logical sector must be mapped to a physical part of the ssd array, and it must be considered in-use by the block allocator of the firmware
[15:57] <dr_willis> faryshta:  you may want to ask about it in #ubuntu+1
[15:57] <graingert> faryshta: it might be easier to just use a usb creator though
[15:57] <faryshta> graingert: usb-creator and pendrivelinux doesn't support 11.10
[15:57] <graingert> faryshta: bull
[15:58] <dr_willis> faryshta:  theres several dozen differnt tools available at the pendrivelinux site
[15:58] <graingert> faryshta: just refer to the ISO file direcly
[15:58] <Polah> jzaksg: php5-cli depends on php5-common and thus you need to install -common to use the -cli package
[15:58] <graingert> directly*
[15:58] <Saturn2888> escott: ok, then I don't know. All I know is I need to write 1s and any trim commands on this computer should not work by design. I believe even if I used a trim-capable drive, it wouldn't work because of motherboard restrictions possibly caused by the BIOS.
[15:58] <jzaksh> my package manager is telling me that php5-cli depends on php5-common 5.2, but i have 5.3 installed. but... if you go check online, it actually requires php-common >=5.2
[15:58] <graingert> IC
[15:58] <jzaksh> Polah: common is installed.... here's my output for `dpkg -l '*php*' http://dpaste.de/4qbYM/raw/
[15:58] <faryshta> dr_willis: I tried a few but doesn't support 11.10
[15:59] <Polah> Saturn2888: /dev/zero would actually give you data values since it provides ASCII 0 characters to be written, you could then repeat with an offset to wipe over the spaces written with 1s.
[15:59] <dr_willis> faryshta:  ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:59] <Saturn2888> Oh ok.
[15:59] <hoverbear> \o/ Finally a respectable installation on my laptop. (Ironically from ubuntu-server)
[16:00] <faryshta> dr_willis: asked. That irc seems to be dead.
[16:00] <zykotick9_> dr_willis, just wanted to give you a heads-up.  Regarding the hybrid ISO (that I'm told is working in 11.10) the "typical" instructions from the debian world (where hybrid was introduced with squeeze) is to "cat" the iso onto the root of the USB drive (i imagine dd would do the same thing, but there appears to be "some" consensus on using cat for some reason?)
[16:00] <jrib> Saturn2888: I'm kind of perplexed by your reasoning for this but you can probably accomplish it by just using /dev/zero and tr
[16:00] <escott> Saturn2888, the only advantage to writing all 0s or all 1s to the drive is that when the block allocator needs to move physical A to physical B it can note that both have the same contents and an overwrite is not required, the only thing required is to remap the logical blocks referencing A and B. since you don't have the source code to the firmware you have to *hope* that the firmware is smart enough to notice this case, if its not then
[16:00] <escott>  writing 0s or 1s or any pattern to the full disk would degrade performance
[16:00] <Saturn2888> jrib that's what I'm doing now
[16:01] <dr_willis> zykotick9_:  cat defaults to a bigger buffer size i belive. ive seen similer discussion over using cat or dd to copy a cd to an iso file.
[16:01] <Saturn2888> escott: having a seasoned drive, a drive where chips are written to, there's a 1.5ms latency on writes. That's HUGE. No point in an SSD that's slower than an HDD
[16:01] <antiphysicist> Gnea, so from the replies i have two good (and simple for me) options: make a separate nfts data partition that isn't home and put my shared files on that, or make a seperate/home on an ext3 and try to access that from windows? just checking i understand
[16:02] <dr_willis> antiphysicist:  thats the core of it.
[16:02] <auronandace> dr_willis: thanks mate, all fine and fully functional now
[16:02] <dr_willis> antiphysicist:  home has to be on a ext2/3/4 or some other filesystem that handles linux permissions
[16:02] <Saturn2888> escott: and yes, I'm assuming the firmware works as it's been claimed to. By all the reviews of cleaning seasoned drives, I would believe this to be true because people who've one'd a drive have noticed speed increases even with this particular RunCore drive.
[16:03] <faryshta> Hi. How can I install 11.10 on a usb?
[16:03] <Gnea> antiphysicist: it would be easier to just share them on some kind of ntfs partition, then you wouldn't run into the problems of windows trying to write to a filesystem it doesn't fully support
[16:03] <TheEvilPhoenix> faryshta:  #ubuntu+1
[16:03] <dr_willis> faryshta:  see #ubuntu+1  it was just sdiscussed that you can use cat of dd to put the isop  on a usb i belive
[16:04] <Gnea> faryshta: /join #ubuntu+1 and ask there, please
[16:04] <escott> Saturn2888, if you have instructions that have worked for someone with exactly your drive, then follow them. but it is firmware specific, and the firmware gets to decide how it treats all 0s or all 1s. so im back to asking "where have you seen instructions relating to all 1s specific to your firmware"
[16:04] <faryshta> Gnea: dr_willis TheEvilPhoenix I am on that forum but it seems a bit dead.
[16:04] <Gnea> faryshta: you'll have to be patient
[16:04] <Saturn2888> escott: http://www.anandtech.com/show/2738/11
[16:04] <TheEvilPhoenix> faryshta:  then patience is required
[16:04] <Gnea> faryshta: also check the urls in the /topic
[16:04] <Gnea> faryshta: it might already be answered
[16:05] <faryshta> Gnea: I did.
[16:05] <Saturn2888> escott: the other source is the OCZ forums but I don't have a direct link to any particular forum post about this since there are many. The forum postings on MyDellMini.com also talk about the RunCore drive
[16:06] <AlessonZaire> milagre please read the pvt I sent you
[16:06] <antiphysicist> gnea, dr_willis, graingert, escott thanks for the help i'll go get partitioning then!
[16:08] <faryshta> Hi. How can I install 11.10 on a usb?
[16:08] <Polah> !usb | faryshta
[16:08] <Polah> !oneiric | faryshta
[16:08] <escott> Saturn2888, I would probably try hdparm first because if it works it does exactly what you want which is to tell the firmware to throw away the logical->physical block allocation tables. if it doesn't work and you trust the sources that say to write 1s then use dd to write 1s
[16:09] <faryshta> Polah: that link doesn't work for oneric.
[16:09] <dr_willis> faryshta:   you can 'cat' or 'dd' the iso file to the flash drive. was mentioned earlier.
[16:09] <Polah> faryshta: You don't need the link, join #ubuntu+1
[16:09] <faryshta> dr_willis: I am on a windows trying to format this shit. What can I do?
[16:10] <IdleOne> !language | faryshta
[16:10] <Saturn2888> escott: I'm 13GB of 16GB into writing 1s so I mean, I'm gonna do this. I know there's no way the computer supports trim in any way and I have no way to verify it would work or not. In fact, I don't even know how to use this command. It's asking for sector range pairs. I dunno what I'd put there.
[16:10] <graingert> faryshta: you're in the wrong channel for a start
[16:10] <faryshta> Polah: I am there. No one could help me.
[16:10] <graingert> faryshta: even less people can help here
[16:10] <TheEvilPhoenix> !oneiric > faryshta
[16:11] <faryshta> TheEvilPhoenix: again. I am on that irc too.
[16:11] <TheEvilPhoenix> faryshta:  then sit there quietly and WAIT
[16:11] <TheEvilPhoenix> faryshta:  PATIENCE is a requirement
[16:11] <zHammeRz> lol
[16:11] <TheEvilPhoenix> and a ton of it
[16:11] <graingert> faryshta: or consider purchasing an ubuntu support contract
[16:11] <graingert> although those are only available in supported releases
[16:11] <graingert> ie not ubuntu 11.10
[16:12] <dr_willis> I imagine theres ports of dd for windows. :) or other disk imageing tools at the pendrivelinux web site. but ive not bothered to put 11.10 on a flash yet.
[16:12] <faryshta> graingert: thanks but I don't see how that helps at all.
[16:12] <Tatrasiel> is there a way to use wget to get unetbootin?
[16:12] <faryshta> dr_willis: pendrivelinux doesn't support 11.10
[16:12] <Tatrasiel> I am trying to learnn it and it seems to always to dowlload everything as an HTML
[16:13] <dr_willis> faryshta:  pendrivelinux is a web site that has collections of tools.. I imagine one of them does..   or has beta versions of the app that does.
[16:13] <escott> Saturn2888, you would put the full LBA geometry range reported by the drive in fdisk
[16:13] <CatKiller> Hi there, silly question, but can't find the answer. I know it's possible.
[16:13] <TheEvilPhoenix> !ask | CatKiller
[16:14] <Tatrasiel> yep
[16:14] <CatKiller> I've installed ubuntu server. Towards the end of the install, at the package selection, I obviously pressed "Enter" instead of "space". I know these packages can be reinstalled using apt-get but I'd like to bring this "package selection" "graphical" util up
[16:14] <CatKiller> Does anybody know what command I need to run?
[16:15] <graingert> CatKiller: tasksel
[16:15] <faryshta> dr_willis: I don' think that is actually a good advice.
[16:15] <CatKiller> The OS base system is already installed
[16:15] <CatKiller> graingert: That's it! Thanks a million! Couldn't find it
[16:15] <graingert> CatKiller: 1 million eh? there are only 21 of those
[16:16] <KingSphinx> I did a clean reinstall of Ubuntu this morning (well, Kubuntu 64-bit, but the same basic thing... does Kubuntu use its own channel? Oh well), and so far, the only thing not working for me is sound with Flash (I installed the 64-bit version through the sevencomputers PPA). Anyone know how to get sound working in 64-bit Flash?
[16:16] <graingert> KingSphinx: should "just work" tm
[16:16] <graingert> KingSphinx: you might want to try #kubuntu as they use a different sound system
[16:17] <KingSphinx> Ah, thanks.
[16:17] <sam1080> hello
[16:17] <CatKiller> graingert: No, pretty sure you can thank someone as much as you can and it's more than 21 times ;)
[16:17] <Glowball> Hi. For my wireless USB stick to work in Ubuntu 10.04, I need to install linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic via Synaptic. But, of course, I don't have an internet connection... How can I install it anyway? (Is there a way to download a deb file of it on another computer?)
[16:18] <sam1080> i need some help
[16:18] <graingert> !question | sam1080
[16:18] <sam1080> my sound device is not working
[16:18] <IdleOne> Glowball: packages.ubuntu.com
[16:18] <sam1080> on xubuntu
[16:19] <th0r> sam1080: install the xfce-mixer in the panel and see if everything is turned on/up
[16:20] <faryshta> Hi. How can I install 11.10 on a usb?
[16:20] <sam1080> tks
[16:20] <IdleOne> faryshta: #ubuntu+1
[16:20] <iceroot> faryshta: again, please no crossposting
[16:21] <IdleOne> you know this already
[16:21] <faryshta> IdleOne: iceroot you know that in ubuntu+1 there isn't a solution yet.
[16:21] <Glowball> IdleOne: Aha, found it! Thanks.
[16:21] <iceroot> faryshta: i told you a solution
[16:21] <faryshta> IdleOne: iceroot and no one else have joinded.
[16:21] <IdleOne> faryshta: 11.10 is NOT supported in here.
[16:22] <faryshta> IdleOne: there are more people here. Someone might know.
[16:22] <IdleOne> Glowball: welcome. make sure to download any depends it may need also
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> faryshta: try unetbootin, i think there's a version for win
[16:22] <IdleOne> faryshta: I am going to tell you one more time. 11.10 is NOT supported in this channel.
[16:22] <sweb> which key code is ^@ in terminal ? how can i find out it ? for example Escape is ^[
[16:23] <faryshta> MonkeyDust: thanks I did but it got stucked in the 174 file.
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> faryshta: maybe what you want is not possible
[16:23] <IdleOne> MonkeyDust: if you wish to help him with 11.10 please join #ubuntu+1
[16:24] <faryshta> MonkeyDust: the iso are meant to be hybrid I think it should work but don't know how.
[16:25] <Neo> Hi could someone tell me if there is a better program than devede I find the results aren't great in devede thanks
[16:26] <dr_willis> This tool is used for writing images to USB sticks or SD/CF cards on Windows   https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer    a gui/dd tool for windows
[16:27] <chrisx313> hi
[16:27] <dr_willis> I like DeVeDE :) does exactly what i need.
[16:28] <dr_willis> i think theres more advanced apps that do similer tasks.. but not as simple to use. ive not even looked into the alternatives in ages
[16:29] <JellyingPuff> Hi!
[16:29] <Afilthyjew> hello guys, i took the unbutu path, i decided im tired of BSOD's and now im trying to install it on my laptop
[16:29] <Guest83424> dr_willis, Compared to convertxtodvd its not great unfortunately i had a quick look at mandvd that looked confusing lol
[16:29] <JellyingPuff> HH!
[16:29] <Afilthyjew> problem im having is that im trying to install it along my win7
[16:29] <Micheal`> gratz Afilthyjew
[16:29] <JellyingPuff> How do I stop the join and part messages in the webchat?
[16:29] <dr_willis> Guest83424:  i never want any real dvd 'menus' i just want the thing to play the movie. and loop forever. :)
[16:29] <Afilthyjew> i made a partition and installed it, but on boot it will only load win7
[16:29] <Afilthyjew> no unbutu
[16:29] <GreekFreak> Hello I just purchased an HP Pavilion g7 with a Radeon HD 6470M. I subsequently found out that the card is not supported. I have followed instrusctions on installing the driver manually, but then ubuntu won't even start
[16:30] <Micheal`> grub isnt setup correctly
[16:30] <JellyingPuff> Hi!
[16:30] <GreekFreak> I'm back to square on... what am I doint wrong?
[16:30] <Guest83424> dr_willis, Do you know what the best dvd ripping software is? I have used k9copy but was looking for something better
[16:30] <Afilthyjew> the partition is there but it seems unasigned
[16:30] <G7|Cloud> wat
[16:30] <JellyingPuff> I've got python 2.7 installed, but I need 3.1 how cna I update?
[16:30] <Saturn2888> Thanks for the help all! bye
[16:30] <G7|Cloud> GreekFreak: oh, you highlighted me :)
[16:30] <Guest83424> Afilthyjew, Did you install windows first or last?
[16:30] <Saturn2888> graingert: thanks :)
[16:30] <Afilthyjew> windows first
[16:31] <GreekFreak> G7|Cloud: my appologies. It was the model number :p
[16:31] <escott> JellyingPuff, there is a python3 package
[16:31] <Guest83424> Afilthyjew, Thats strange what you should have had the option to do was install ubuntu alongside windows and ubuntu would have updated grub
[16:31] <JellyingPuff> escott: apt-get install python3?
[16:31] <G7|Cloud> GreekFreak: no problem, it's my fault for having g7 as a highlight word :)
[16:32] <escott> !info python3 | JellyingPuff
[16:32] <JellyingPuff> RyuGuns:!!!
[16:32] <RyuGuns> :D
[16:32] <RyuGuns> Why are you looking up python jragon?
[16:32] <Afilthyjew> mmm maybe i need to reinstall?
[16:32] <JellyingPuff> RyuGuns: cos imma learning it
[16:33] <Guest83424> Afilthyjew, Or try sudo apt-get update grub
[16:33] <dr_willis> Python has many many tutorial web sites out there. :)
[16:40] <IdleOne> Afilthyjew: Please change your nick to a family friendly one.
[16:46] <ex-demon> почему я нимагу на ubuntu-ru ничево написать в чат
[16:46] <escott> !ru | ex-demon
[16:46] <ex-demon> cannot to send пишет
[16:47] <haus1> hu ?
[16:48] <ex-demon> ???
[16:48] <ex-demon> #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel  ?????
[16:48] <OerHeks> ex-demon, maybe you need to register your name first.
[16:48] <OerHeks> !register
[16:49] <ikonia> ex-demon: talk to the operators, some are in #ubuntu-irc
[16:49] <skai> any operators here?
[16:49] <ikonia> skai: what's up
[16:49] <ikonia> skai: (you may also want to join #ubuntu-ops)
[16:50] <skai> ikonia: nonono. im from ubuntu-ru and i need to ask something about your channel bots ^_^ exp exchange or something
[16:51] <ikonia> skai: join us in #ubuntu-ops and ask
[16:51] <nos__> is there anyway that i can know what VGA drivers i m using ?>@!??
[16:51] <escott> nos__, read your Xorg.0.log or look at the output of glxinfo
[16:53] <usagiakumu>  I need something that tests ram, proc, video, hard drive a bootable CD
[16:54] <haus1> look for just that , you'll find one ..
[16:54] <nos__> escii, it says Xorg video driver
[16:54] <M1N1Me> um, Knoppix
[16:55] <RyuGuns> lol
[16:55] <M1N1Me> boot with memtest option
[16:55] <haus1> there is an Ubuntu Recovery CD
[16:55] <nos__> escii, it cant be true right !?!? does xorg have drives .?!? i mean i was actually expecting xf86-video-intel !
[16:57] <nos__> is there any 'other' way to find which VGA drivers are curruntly installed and then install xf86-video-intel ?
[16:59] <escott> nos__, xorg replaced xf86 seven years ago
[17:02] <mh> what is the recommended hardware config for ubuntu natty?
[17:02] <bitmonk> mh: awesome.
[17:02] <mh> bitmonk: :)
[17:03] <mh> bitmonk: my CPU is always over 93%, that is why I am asking
[17:04] <bitmonk> so i'm trying to upgrade some karmic hosts to lucid (i know, i know) which are behind a proxy server.  i've been able to use do-release-upgrade on lucid hosts with the same network config to get to natty, but it hangs on the karmic hosts.  what might i be missing?
[17:04] <mh> and I don't do anything weird, just mp3 listening in banshee and some facebook in firefox
[17:04] <bitmonk> mh: what sort of hw are you on?
[17:05] <mh> A very bad laptop, Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Pa1510 Series
[17:06] <sweb> which key code is ^@ in terminal ? how can i find out it ? for example Escape is ^[
[17:06] <Myrtti> mh: Javascript on some webpages seems to bring even top notch laptops on their knees
[17:06] <mh> Memory: 873.4 MiB, Mobile AMD Sempron Processor 3400
[17:06] <mh> +
[17:07] <mh> Myrtti: any way to solve that problem?
[17:07] <Myrtti> mh: I'm personally trying out if NoScript has any effect on it
[17:08] <mh> still after closing Firefox, banshee takes 84.4% of cpu. Is this normal?
[17:08] <mh> using ubuntu classic, no effects
[17:09] <duncan-nz> Hi. I just ran 'sudo rm' on my Desktop directory, that was a mistake and now I'm looking for roots Trash directory. Can't find it anywhere.
[17:09] <mh> and I am listening a short song, nothing special
[17:09] <nos__> escott, but i just installed them on arch linux ! and they are working just fine ! i m confused
[17:10] <winut> check your drivers -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[17:10] <nos__> winut, i dont have nvidia
[17:10] <iceroot> duncan-nz: there is no trash on the cli
[17:10] <iceroot> duncan-nz: use your backup
[17:10] <zemo> is possibleto encrypt an existing partition?
[17:10] <nos__> winut: or any graphic card for that matter ..
[17:11] <winut> applies to all, look for "addtional drivers"
[17:11] <duncan-nz> iceroot, so it's quite gone then?
[17:11] <nos__> oh !
[17:11] <zemo> IS POSSIBLE TO ENCRYPT AN EXISTANT PARTITION??
[17:11] <zemo> sorry the caps
[17:11] <iceroot> duncan-nz: correct
[17:11] <nos__> winut: anyway how do i know which drivers i m using now ?!?! the xorg.0.log has some messy log !
[17:11] <winut> it should tell you what drivers are avliable, sorry for not explaining myself properly
[17:11] <duncan-nz> iceroot, ok thanks for the bad news. cu
[17:12] <winut> have you changed it?
[17:12] <nos__> winut: no
[17:12] <nos__> winut: but i m thinking of changing
[17:12] <winut> what is listed in addtioanl drivers?
[17:13] <escott> zemo, not with dmcrypt
[17:13] <nos__> winut: nothing
[17:13] <zemo> escott: what do you mean?
[17:13] <nos__> cause i dont have any grahpic card
[17:13] <celltech> What's a good program to capture a video camera on my screen?
[17:14] <nos__> winut: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[17:14] <escott> zemo, or at least not easily. I would just copy the data to another medium, and then setup the encrypted partition and copy it back
[17:15] <zemo> escott: im asking if is posible to cypher a current partition
[17:15] <zemo> seams isnt
[17:18] <winut> ok, so you need a driver
[17:22] <duncan-nz> I accidentally deleted my Dektop directory and can't work out how to get back to a normal desktop situation where the desktop files are shown on the desktop. Now it's just showing the contents of my home directory.
[17:22] <duncan-nz> I want the contents of the Desktop directory shown on my desktop.
[17:23] <Woet> i keep getting the error "failed to copy file from cd-rom" during installation of 11.04, 64 bit, server
[17:23] <escott> duncan-nz, use gconf-editor to set nautilus back to ~/Desktop
[17:23] <Woet> it's a mounted ISO, so the CD cannot be damaged
[17:23] <Woet> verify disc says it's completely valid
[17:23] <Woet> md5sum matches
[17:23] <Woet> not sure what else I can do
[17:23] <ikonia> Woet: you can mount damaged cd's
[17:24] <Woet> ikonia: please read all my messages
[17:24] <Woet> ikonia: does your comment still apply?
[17:24] <ikonia> Woet: yes
[17:24] <Woet> ikonia: okay, so what do you mean?
[17:24] <osse> Why didn't anyone tell me about apt-get build-dep before :(
[17:24] <duncan-nz> escott, can you give me a point to where that setting is?
[17:24] <ikonia> Woet: becuase the iso is doesn't contain flat files, it contains a squashed file system
[17:25] <ezraw> I just added an entry to my hosts file and it won't resolve using ping to test. Others do just fine. any suggestions on troubleshooting?
[17:25] <Woet> ikonia: [19:23:42] <Woet> md5sum matches
[17:25] <Woet> ikonia: [19:23:40] <Woet> verify disc says it's completely valid
[17:25] <ikonia> Woet: so ?
[17:25] <Woet> so what can cause the problem?
[17:25] <Woet> if the iso is intact, if ubuntu verification says it's intact
[17:25] <ikonia> Woet: are you installing from a cd - or an ISO image
[17:25] <Woet> ikonia: I think I mentioned ISO several times now
[17:25] <escott> duncan-nz, its under apps/nautilus somewhere. I dont have gconf-editor installed. its also the reverse of the instructions you would find online for making nautilus show $HOME as the desktop
[17:25] <rumpe1> Woet, mounted how?
[17:25] <Woet> rumpe1: KVM
[17:26] <Woet> ikonia: [19:23:34] <Woet> it's a mounted ISO, so the CD cannot be damaged
[17:26] <ikonia> Woet: it's possible when the squashfs is decompressing, it's not valid/sane
[17:26] <Woet> ikonia: [19:23:40] <Woet> verify disc says it's completely valid
[17:26] <Woet> ....
[17:26] <ikonia> Woet: manually look for the file on the uncompressed / running CD
[17:26] <Woet> ikonia: the installer doesn't mention a file.
[17:27] <duncan-nz> escott, it seems to be installed by default, at least in 11.04. Thanks, I'm looking for it.
[17:27] <ikonia> Woet: that's dissapointing, but it does suggest it's not able to read (for whatever reason) the uncompressed squashFS file system
[17:27] <Woet> ikonia / rumpe1: http://i.imgur.com/qJerW.png
[17:27] <escott> duncan-nz, /apps/nautilus/desktop. if its not in there then its in your ~/.config/user.dirs file
[17:27] <Woet> ikonia: okay, but the md5sum matches, so the ISO is not corrupt
[17:27] <Woet> ikonia: the installer verify disc says it's okay, so it's mounted properly
[17:27] <ikonia> Woet: you're not listening to what I said
[17:27] <duncan-nz> escott, that's where I'm looking - but I'm not sure what I'm looking for.
[17:27] <ikonia> Woet: carry on as you want
[17:27] <Woet> ikonia
[17:28] <Woet> ikonia: if it can't read the 'squashFS file system', then wouldn't 'verify disc' say it's broken?
[17:28] <Woet> seeing it manually checks all md5sums of all files inside the iso..
[17:28] <ikonia> Woet: carry on as you want
[17:28] <duncan-nz> escott, think I've found it. Thanks.
[17:28] <Woet> ikonia: if you want to help, that's great, but please be specific
[17:28] <ikonia> Woet: I don't want to help anymore,
[17:28] <Woet> ikonia: good.
[17:29] <duncan-nz> escott, it's just a binary on 'desktop_is_home_dir'
[17:29] <Woet> rumpe1: installer console says 'unhandled error code', hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[17:31] <duncan-nz> escott, my mistake that's whether HOME should be used as the desktop directory. It claims that when set to false it will use /Desktop but that's not what it's doing (I've restarted each time to check).
[17:31] <rumpe1> Woet, hmm.. looks like the error, when i tried to mount the oneiric-iso via grub and install that way. Had to go to shell and mount /dev/sr0 (after something else?) manually. But i always thought, vms emulates cd-rom-drives, so the installer shouldnt get confused.
[17:32] <Woet> rumpe1: going to try at the shell
[17:32] <nos__> how do i compile xf86-video-intel driver >
[17:32] <escott> duncan-nz, there are two things that control this. one is the ~/.config/user.dirs file which sets a variable for XDG_DESKTOP_DIR and the one in gconf controls whether or not nautilus uses the folder specified there
[17:32] <rumpe1> Woet, is it oneiric?
[17:32] <Woet> rumpe1: doesn't ring a bell, so probably not
[17:33] <Woet> rumpe1: just ubuntu server, 11.04, 64 bit
[17:33] <escott> duncan-nz, and make sure you are doing killall nautilus && nautilus
[17:35] <sven^> where does apt keep track of installed packages? I want to get rid of loads of packages at once and was hoping  I could just delete them from some wanted packages list and then apt-get autoremove
[17:36] <duncan-nz> escott, sorry I'm confused. What the path to ~/ is that my home dir?
[17:36] <VampsDaBeast> hey guys. i'm having a BIG issue with gettin the most recent drivers for my video to install. I have the new driver install.. but it wont run due to X running. any help
[17:36] <escott> sven^, dpkg --get-selections and --set-selections are probably going to be helpful here
[17:36] <escott> duncan-nz, yes $HOME/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[17:36] <Woet> rumpe1: anyways, just going to install 10.10 and upgrade from there - 10.10 installs work without an issue
[17:37] <rumpe1> sven^, after installation? you can generate a "packages list" with dpkg --get-selections and use it later with --set-selections to install/remove the packages from the list.
[17:37] <otaylor> :/join#html
[17:37] <duncan-nz> escott, I ran 'gedit .config/user.dirs' but there is nothing there.
[17:37] <king313> fail, otaylor
[17:38] <duncan-nz> otaylor,  you want '/join #html'
[17:38] <otaylor> yeah
[17:38] <otaylor> im new to ubuntu
[17:38] <wildbat> VampsDaBeast: if that's is the cause, stop the X ~ run it in console .. but i doubt it is the cause.
[17:38] <duncan-nz> otaylor, that command is older than Ubuntu :-)
[17:39] <escott> duncan-nz, its user-dirs.dirs (i forgot the -dirs)
[17:39] <VampsDaBeast> wildbat: when i run the install thru terminal i et the message 'installation can not continue while X server is running. Please close X server and rerun the installation.'
[17:39] <TBotNik> All:  Looking for a HOWTO on installing Network Manager without internet and without liveCD.  Anyone know where?
[17:40] <duncan-nz> escott, my bad typing actually, you remembered it just fine.
[17:40] <wildbat> VampsDaBeast: that's what i said stop then X first. sudo service gdm stop.
[17:40] <escott> duncan-nz, i left it out when i first gave you the filename
[17:41] <user1> hello
[17:45] <duncan-nz> escott, thanks for the help, that problem is now fixed.
[17:45] <nimbiotics> Using v11.04, why is it that I cannot see the "Session Options Tab" in the "Startup Application Preferences"?? I'd like my system to restart the applications I'm running when I logout. TIA!
[17:45] <duncan-nz> escott, sadly I have no recollection of what files where on the desktop, certainly not a folder I backup, more a cluttered space. Thanks for the help.
[17:52] <VampsDaBeast> wildbat: ok that work.. got the new drivers install, but now i have 2 nvidia X setting in the system menu, how would i get rid of 1) the old nvidia setting manager and 2) the older nvidia drivers
[17:56] <anadon> How do I diagnose if my computer's APM in broken?
[17:57] <juboba> hey
[17:58] <juboba> I'm having a problem with kworker
[17:58] <juboba> does anybody know about this issue? (It is making my computer slow)
[17:58] <GordonGR> Hallo! I installed Kubuntu 11.04 yesterday but I have no sound. I tried calling a module as this HOWTO https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto suggests, but it didn't work. Any help please?
[17:58] <juboba> !uname -a
[17:58] <juboba> damn
[17:59] <anadon> I think kworker is something for cron jobs, so you might have a script running in the background
[17:59] <juboba> my kernel version is 2.6.38-11
[17:59] <VampsDaBeast> anyone know how to remove an old driver and setting manager for nvidia
[17:59] <juboba> anadon: it is called by the kernel
[17:59] <anadon> whoops
[17:59] <anadon> juboba: did you fully update?
[18:00] <juboba> yes
[18:00] <RayzrShrp> is it possible to move the unity bar?
[18:00] <IdleOne> no
[18:00] <RayzrShrp> I didn't think so
[18:00] <escott> anadon, juboba kworker is the kernels worker threads. it is completing time consuming actions initiated by drivers or userspace
[18:01] <LurchiderLurch> Is there a tool for U 10.10 64bit that uses the W-lan device to scan the frequences around 2,4 GHz and plots a fourier transformation for frequences around 2,4GHz. There seems to be a disturbing source of electromagnetic waves in my house
[18:02] <VampsDaBeast> escott: you busy or have time to help me figure out why i have 2 nvidia ogjects installed.
[18:02] <VampsDaBeast> objects**
[18:03] <escott> VampsDaBeast, don't know much about nvidia. you probably have 2 because they keep the older nvidia drivers around for people whose cards are not supported by nvidias newer drivers
[18:04] <VampsDaBeast> escott: my card is newer, its the gt 220. i was finally able to get teh newest driver installed but now, i have 2 nvidia x server settings in my system options menu.
[18:04] <mh> I got the feeling that my graphics card could have a better driver, or that something is wrong. who could like to help me? I think there are no proprietary drivers installed. I am using Natty and the graphics card is ATI Radeon Xpress 1100
[18:05] <GordonGR> so I did what the guide said, called modprobe with the appropriate command, rebooted but didn't work.
[18:05] <juboba> escott: how can I solve my problem? kworker is using too much CPU
[18:06] <wildbat> VampsDaBeast: find the old package and remove it with synaptic
[18:07] <Somelauw> Does anyone know what jetty does?
[18:07] <GordonGR> Hallo! I installed Kubuntu 11.04 yesterday but I have no sound. I tried calling a module as this HOWTO https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto suggests, but it didn't work. Any help please?
[18:08] <Somelauw> I got an error that something wasn't configured properly after installing some updates and it called jetty. I already googled jetty, butI don't understand.
[18:08] <Jonathan458> Hey guys, can anyone help me with installing rTorrent?
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> !ask| Jonathan458
[18:08] <auronandace> !info jetty | Somelauw
[18:09] <wildbat> Jonathan458, sudo apt-get install rtorrent . done.
[18:09] <Somelauw> auronandace: ok. So what do I need it for?
[18:09] <Jonathan458> wildbat i tried that
[18:10] <Jonathan458> let me show u what i got
[18:10] <GordonGR> Jonathan458: then read its man page, it needs some configuration but it's not hard.
[18:10] <Somelauw> thanks for the ubottu info at least
[18:10] <VampsDaBeast> wildbat: do that now, lets hope it works right
[18:10] <auronandace> Somelauw: you must have installed it at some point, don't you remember?
[18:10] <auronandace> Somelauw: either you installed it or it got installed as a dependancy to something else
[18:11] <Somelauw> auronandace: Maybe it came with wamp
[18:11] <mh> so any proprietary drivers available for Radeon Xpress 1100?
[18:11] <Jonathan458> wildbat: its says rtorrent is already the newest version... but where is it? Sorry im noob to this
[18:11] <Pici> mh: no. The open source 'radeon' driver is all that you can use.
[18:11] <Somelauw> ok, thanks. weird that it broke
[18:11] <Pici> Jonathan458: rtorrent is a cli program, there is no gui and it will not be in your menus.
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> Jonathan458: type alt-F2 rtorrent
[18:11] <GordonGR> Jonathan458: simply open a terminal and type “rtorrent”
[18:11] <mh> Pici: thanks
[18:11] <Somelauw> Jonathan458: Try Alt+F2 and then enter rtorrent
[18:12] <VampsDaBeast> wildbat: what was the keystrokes for 1 exiting X server, gettin a Command Line and 3 entering back in to the KDE screen
[18:13] <Jonathan458> no command found MonkeyDust, Somelauw
[18:13] <Jonathan458> oh nvm
[18:13] <Jonathan458> im dumm ass
[18:13] <wildbat> case ?;p ?
[18:13] <_2easy> i can't disable gdm using "update-rc.d -f gdm remove" in ubuntu 11 why is it so?
[18:13] <mh> Pici: I get some lags when I type letters, for example. Any possible solution for this?
[18:13] <escott> Vampire0_, ctrl-alt-f# 7 is the X server
[18:13] <toumbo> Hi!May anyone help me how to intergrate gnome player with my chromium?It says "missing plugin" althought I installed it!
[18:13] <An0nmy0us> #join :P
[18:14] <IdleOne> _2easy: sudo service gdm stop.
[18:14] <An0nmy0us> #Join Kubuntu
[18:15] <Jonathan458> wildbat after runnign rtorrent in the terminal i get error: Could not read resource file: `/rtorrent.rc
[18:15] <urlin2u> An0nmy0us, /join #kubuntu
[18:15] <Somelauw> Jonathan458: I googledrtorrent and since it seems to be a ncurses client, you should open a terminal and start it from there
[18:15] <An0nmy0us> thanks
[18:15] <IdleOne> An0nmy0us: /join #channel
[18:15] <VampsDaBeast> IdleOne: that takes you to a blank screen correct?
[18:15] <IdleOne> VampsDaBeast: believe so.
[18:15] <GordonGR> Jonathan458: type man rtorrent, it will give you insight as to make your own ~/rtorrent.rc. It's the configuration file.
[18:15] <VampsDaBeast> IdleOne: how to get start a command line from that screen
[18:15] <Jonathan458> Yes Somelauw i found guide stateing that and i installed the ncurses command but still nothin
[18:15] <IdleOne> VampsDaBeast: ctrl-alt-F1
[18:16] <VampsDaBeast> IdleOne: then without having to reboot, how would i return to my GUI desktop?
[18:16] <freezey> where are keys specified for ubuntu repos? i created a local server and i cant seem to find where i specify the key to sign it with
[18:16] <IdleOne> ctrl-alt-F7
[18:16] <GordonGR> ctrl-alt-f7
[18:16] <Somelauw> Jonathan458: Check the file .rtorrent.rc and if it doesn't exist, create it or otherwise check the man or some tutorial for instructions.
[18:17] <VampsDaBeast> thanks all
[18:17] <ben_unity> Hi
[18:17] <GordonGR> sometimes if the xserver crashes it reopens at the next virtual console, ctrl-alt-f8 too
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> VampsDaBeast: or simply alt left arrow
[18:17] <Jonathan458> GordonGR type that in Run or terminal?
[18:17] <_2easy> IdleOne: but i want do it permanently, so that after reboot it starts in terminal
[18:17] <IdleOne> !nox | _2easy
[18:17] <GordonGR> Jonathan458: terminal
[18:18] <ubuntu_> hi
[18:18] <Cyrax5> I'm trying to open a pdf file with libre office but there's just a load of weired lettering.
[18:18] <GordonGR> there is a gui man page viewer, but I can't remember how it was called
[18:18] <Webonaute> hi. how I can use Connect to Server to call smbfs else only smb?
[18:18] <toumbo> Hi people!Is anyone available to solve together my little issue?
[18:18] <ohzie> Hey guys, I have a question
[18:18] <_2easy> IdleOne: thanks!
[18:18] <GordonGR> Hallo! I installed Kubuntu 11.04 yesterday but I have no sound. I tried calling a module as this HOWTO https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto suggests, but it didn't work. Any help please?
[18:18] <ohzie> Is there a way to generate a list of paths with filenames, instead of the output that ls generates normally?
[18:19] <ohzie> What I'm looking for is output from LS similar to the windows command "dir /S /B /A-D"
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> toumbo: just as, the channel will repond if we can
[18:19] <GordonGR> ohzie: ls --help :-)
[18:19] <ben_unity> ohzie, would that print out the contents of the files in the folders? ls -l * might help
[18:20] <ohzie> GordonGR: Having looked over the man page for something similar to what I'm looking for, I've turned to the ubuntu channel because I haven't found it.
[18:20] <ohzie> GordonGR: Thank you for your RTFM though.
[18:20] <ben_unity> ohzie, would that print out the contents of the files in the folders? ls -l * might help
[18:20] <ohzie> ben_unity: Thank you so much!
[18:20] <ben_unity> ;D
[18:20] <toumbo> Ok here is my question again: how to intergrate gnome player with my chromium?It says "missing plugin" although I installed it!
[18:20] <GordonGR> ohzie: ok ok, I'm sorry. I usually use ls -la, it shows the hidden files/folders too
[18:20] <freezey> where are keys specified for ubuntu repos? i created a local server and i cant seem to find where i specify the key to sign it with
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> GordonGR: can you run the alsa-info.sh file detailed on the sound troubleshooting page and give the generated URL
[18:21] <ohzie> If anyone else needs something similar to what I've been looking for, I did find it
[18:21] <ohzie> LS is incapable of generating the output I was looking for, but 'find' does it quite nicely with no arguments but folder
[18:21] <GordonGR> ActionParsnip: what is that page?
[18:21] <Jonathan458> GordonGR not sure what i need be doing in the file
[18:22] <ben_unity> toumbo, in firefox there is something to define what it does with files, you could look up 'chromium setting file uses' or something along those lines
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Webonaute: can you rephrase please. If you have a samba server then nautilus  can get you access via gvfs
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> !sound
[18:22] <GordonGR> Jonathan458: rtorrent.rc is the file with all the configurations. I don't have one any more, otherwise i'd send it to you
[18:22] <GordonGR> thanks, ActionParsnip
[18:23] <Jonathan458> thanks GordonGR
[18:23] <toumbo> ben_unity okay I'll try it!Thanks for the response!
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> GordonGR: first link, search the page for alsa-info.sh   and run the command you find please
[18:23] <GordonGR> Right
[18:26] <LuizArmesto> #it3s
[18:26] <LuizArmesto> ops
[18:27] <LuizArmesto> sorry.
[18:27] <GordonGR> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=6dcbb2feb24fe47cc4926a755ec4540ea7e10530
[18:27] <fenfir> who do i report a bug in rm to?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> GordonGR: perfect. Gimme a sec
[18:28] <GordonGR> ActionParsnip: take your time, mate :)
[18:29] <Peyam> Hi
[18:29] <ska> For some reason, my updates dont seem to update the Grub boodloader.
[18:29] <ben_unity> Hi Peyam
[18:29] <Pici> fenfir: it would be against the coreutils package in launchpad, but are you sure its a bug?
[18:29] <urlin2u> ska, did you install startup manager?
[18:29] <Peyam> I lock my computer (laptop) and when I open the lock I cant see Log in anymore
[18:30] <ska> Using 10.04.1
[18:30] <fenfir> pici: if you make a file named -esomething and try to rm it it interprets it as a flag, even if quoted, escaped
[18:30] <zykotick9_> fenfir, are you sure it's a bug?  Looks like "rm" is part of coreutils
[18:30] <ska> urlin2u: not sure.. what does it do?
[18:30] <Peyam> I lock the cpomputer to suspend and open it again.. no Login. Using Ubuntu 11.04
[18:30] <zykotick9_> fenfir, that's not a bug
[18:30] <fenfir> how do i delete the file then?
[18:30] <escott> fenfir, rm -- "-filename"
[18:31] <Pici> fenfir: thats not a bug, and its even mentioned in its own manpage.
[18:31] <fenfir> ahh
[18:31] <ska> urlin2u: startupmanager is not installed. How do I update the kernels now?
[18:31] <escott> fenfir, its in the man page
[18:31] <fenfir> i really should rtfm
[18:31] <urlin2u> ska, it is a default boot app but is I'm not sure about lucid not defaulting on a kernel update above lucid. You only get a grub-update when a new kernel or kernel patch is installed.
[18:31] <fenfir> this is what i get for thinking rm was simple
[18:31] <urlin2u> ska, sudo update-grub
[18:32] <escott> fenfir, remember that escaping is for the SHELL (bash), once it gets to rm it looks like -filename and rm thinks things that start with "-" are flags
[18:32] <ben_unity> I have written a small console based game and wish to port it to other Linux Distros. I have a netbook with 11.04 and 3 desktops, running Fedora 15, OpenSUSE 11.4, and Gentoo, is there a way I could access a console on them to run gcc? I have ftp working, but ftp is only file transfer. I have heard of ssh, how could I set it up?
[18:32] <urlin2u> ska, if yo have a dual  boot linux set up the last install has the grub control you have to run the update-grub there.
[18:32] <urlin2u> you
[18:34] <ska> urlin2u: Thanks.. no mine is single boot.. all is clear. i hope.
[18:34] <urlin2u> ska, cool.
[18:35] <Webonaute> I try to mount a mac share on osx lion and I alway got : mount error(22): Invalid argument
[18:36] <bjarni> Hi.  Can you tell me how to alter keys on keyboard.  I have ubuntu 11.04 and Unity.  There is no vertical bar on it - needs to be added.
[18:36] <Webonaute> I use : sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/Share /mnt/share/ -o user=username,sec=lanman,servern=SHARESERVER
[18:37] <Webonaute> I have try with smb and smbfs and I got same error
[18:37] <Webonaute> I dont know what else to try.
[18:38] <13WAAB3VR> how do you create a windows 7iso in ubuntu
[18:38] <Webonaute> if I try with "Connect to server" from UI. it connect, I can create directory but I cant copy, create or edit file
[18:38] <K4k> Is anyone else here using Natty on a machine with the AMD HD6350 Graphics chip? I'm having trouble getting my backlight to come on after suspending to RAM.
[18:38] <Webonaute> On windows with same username, I can edit these file.
[18:38] <Webonaute> so its not a permission problem
[18:39] <Webonaute> no problem on windows or mac. only on ubuntu.
[18:39] <alkafoo> 13WAAB3VR: burn, you mean?
[18:40] <13WAAB3VR> alkafoo: yes the first two appear to be corrupt when i try to install it
[18:40] <alkafoo> 13WAAB3VR: try burning at a slower speed, like 4x
[18:40] <alkafoo> 13WAAB3VR: otherwise you could image to a USB stick, or boot from GRUB
[18:40] <alkafoo> 13WAAB3VR: or just install to a VM
[18:41] <13WAAB3VR> alkafoo:I'm on natty now after it said the disk was corrupt now my win 7 won't boot at all
[18:42] <alkafoo> 13WAAB3VR: what said which disk was corrupt?  What won't boot, you already have Windows 7 installed to a hard disk?
[18:43] <Osmodivs> Hello. How can I change a GPU kernel module version? I nstalled Nvidia's propietary drivers (280.13) but when I try to boot I can't, because it says: "Error: APIA mismatch; The nVidia kernel module has version 270.41.19 but this Nvidia component has version 280.13... So, how do I fix this?
[18:43] <Osmodivs> I am in FAILSAFE mode
[18:44] <13WAAB3VR>  alkafoo: I have win 7 32bit, i was trying to install 64bit but after copying the win7 64bit files the installer decided that my disk was corrupt and it couldn't continue
[18:44] <escott> Osmodivs, that shouldn't stop your boot, you should just end up at a console. there you can fully remove the old nvidia version
[18:45] <alkafoo> Osmodivs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia/
[18:45] <wildbat> 13WAAB3VR: check you ISO with md5 yet?
[18:45] <13WAAB3VR> wildbat: how do i do that in natty?
[18:45] <Osmodivs> escott: Well, I am in the GUI right now, failsafe mode. So you are saying that I need to delete the "nvidia-current" in synaptic?
[18:46] <wildbat> 13WAAB3VR:  md5sum <filename>
[18:46] <escott> Osmodivs, dpkg -l "*nvidia*" should list all nvidia packages installed. be sure to remove and purge those that you don't need
[18:46] <Kazilla> join #nm
[18:47] <Kazilla> misstype lol
[18:47] <alkafoo> 13WAAB3VR: sha1sum filename; http://blogs.technet.com/b/dmelanchthon/archive/2009/07/23/windows-7-rtm.aspx
[18:48] <Osmodivs> escott: I am not that good in the terminal, is it ok if I uninstall them from synaptic?
[18:48] <escott> Osmodivs, synaptic should be fine
[18:50] <metellius> ok, so my (k)ubuntu upgrade crashed midway through (running in a screen which is gone now), and apt-get dist-upgrade just gives me a message that some packages have been held back.  I have my ubuntu root on /dev/sda11. Can i remove all the other partitions in the extended partition and resize the size of the extended partition?
[18:52] <alkafoo> dob_: short answer: yes; long answer: you'll have to be a lot more specific if you want precise instruction
[18:53] <alkafoo> metellius: what message?
[18:53] <metellius> alkafoo:
[18:53] <metellius> The following packages have been kept back: libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-calc libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-impress libreoffice-kde libreoffice-math libreoffice-writer nfs-common nfs-kernel-server python-uno
[18:54] <alkafoo> metellius: that doesn't sound like much of a problem
[18:54] <dob_> alkafoo: I have another idea. I have some free space left on the device. I will now create a LVM PV and move my root and swap into that. Then i will remove the exteneded partition and resize my PV to the max size.
[18:54] <alkafoo> what isn't working?
[18:55] <metellius> alkafoo: all attempts at actually continuing the upgrade
[18:55] <escott> dob_, moving into lvm could cause more problems than it solves, esp. if your initrd doesnt support lvm
[18:55] <alkafoo> metellius: so you just want those package to not be 'kept back'
[18:55] <dob_> escott: Can i add support for lvm to my system?
[18:56] <metellius> alkafoo: i guess, yes. either way, the overall goal is to finish the upgrade
[18:56] <escott> dob_, if you have sda4 as extended containing sda5,6,7,8,9,10,11 just delete 5-10, and grow 11 to fill sda4
[18:57] <escott> dob_, the grow will take a long time, but its the simplest change
[18:57] <alkafoo> metellius: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22following%20packages%22%20%22kept%20back%22%20site%3Aubuntuforums.org
[18:57] <dob_> escott: my primary goal was to use lvm :-)
[18:57] <dob_> to be more flexible in the future
[18:58] <escott> dob_, just be aware that your bootloader must be able to find the initrd (not sure grub can understand lvm) and that your initrd must be able to load the lvm modules or they must be built in. I don't know if that is standard with ubuntu desktop
[18:59] <dob_> escott: thank u, i will try it ...
[19:00] <escott> dob_, generally putting things like a system root or a boot partition on lvm is not the right approach. you want your data that does vary like your music or your /var partitions on lvm
[19:00] <daavis> hi! how to backup theme directory? i want to use shell-theme. so i'm interested in some safety :)
[19:00] <urlin2u> dob_, clone the stuff before you break it if you want a copy when you do.
[19:00] <zodiak> anyone running upto date 11.10 ? I noticed after this mornings small updates skype refuses to launch :(
[19:01] <urlin2u> zodiak, #ubuntu+1
[19:01] <dob_> okay. I will move my boot to /dev/sda1 first. And then check what i will do afterwards..
[19:01] <zodiak> urlin2u, awesome. danke.
[19:01] <dob_> thank u guys
[19:01] <urlin2u> dob_, move your boot?
[19:01] <daavis> hi! how to backup theme directory? i want to use shell-theme. so i'm interested in some safety :)
[19:02] <metellius> alkafoo: yeah, I did my googling; all the posts suggest update->upgrade->dist-upgrade fixes it, but this is not the case for me
[19:02] <metellius> it just gives me the same message, twice
[19:02] <Pici> metellius: What release of Ubuntu are you running?
[19:02] <metellius> I'm in the middle of 10.04 -> 10.10 upgrade
[19:02] <metellius> no
[19:02] <metellius> 11.04 -> 11.10 :)
[19:03] <AlessonZaire> 11.10 is out?
[19:03] <metellius> beta1
[19:03] <urlin2u> AlessonZaire, still i development you can download dailies,
[19:04] <urlin2u> in*
[19:04] <Pici> metellius: Then you should be asking in #ubuntu+1, that is their support channel.
[19:04] <metellius> ah, I see
[19:04] <Pici> metellius: The repositories  might be in an inconsistant state at this time.
[19:04] <AlessonZaire> Yay \o/
[19:04] <AlessonZaire> Thanks urlin2u
[19:05] <metellius> Pici: ah, I see
[19:05] <daavis> where is theme directory?
[19:05] <Osmodivs> Nope. it didn't worked
[19:05] <metellius> Pici: what exactly is "at this time"? is there some package upgrade in process in the repositories?
[19:05] <urlin2u> AlessonZaire, no problem.
[19:06] <Pici> metellius: I just mean that could be a possbile answer, I'm not sure if theres anything going on right now, the folks in +1 should be able to help you sort it put.
[19:06] <metellius> ok.
[19:10] <Flark706> hi so i'm needing to be able to disable my network manager for 11.04
[19:10] <mello> hi, does someone know how i can disable the effect that takes place when you change desktop backgrounds? it seems to lag my computer
[19:16] <zykotick9_> Flark706, and after you disable n-m, do you want to use /etc/network/interfaces file or wicd or something else?
[19:16] <Flark706> actually i was able to do a service stop command so i'm going to see if that fixed the error
[19:17] <Guest97015> hello
[19:19] <Underscore> Is there any reason that after a dual-boot install of Ubuntu and Win7 my motherboard splash screen spends about 20 seconds longer on the screen?
[19:20] <downming_> /#ubuntu-zh
[19:20] <ikonia> Underscore: no
[19:20] <ikonia> Underscore: the bios has nothing to do with the OS
[19:20] <bjarni> How can I see what device my keyboard is in /dev/input/eventX ?
[19:21] <AuroraNites21> hi
[19:21] <Underscore> ikonia: Well it's pretty weird then, since this seems to be the cause
[19:21] <ikonia> Underscore: but it's not
[19:21] <Underscore> ikonia: But why would it only just start after installing ubuntu?
[19:21] <ikonia> Underscore: no reason at all
[19:22] <Underscore> ikonia: I do agree it doesn't make sense
[19:22] <ikonia> Underscore: unplug the ubuntu disk, see if it speeds up
[19:22] <Jordan_U> Underscore: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc
[19:23] <Underscore> ikonia: It's on a single disk unfortunately, so I can't try that
[19:23] <ikonia> Underscore: just pull it out
[19:23] <ikonia> Underscore: you don't have to boot it
[19:23] <Underscore> ikonia: Ah, true
[19:23] <Dice-Man> hello how to print Underscore ?
[19:23] <ikonia> _
[19:23] <ikonia> Dice-Man: press the underscore key
[19:24] <Dice-Man> ok
[19:24] <Dice-Man> _
[19:24] <ikonia> well done
[19:24] <Dice-Man> that's cool
[19:24] <[THC]AcidRain> lol
[19:24] <ikonia> Dice-Man: please don't mess around with silly questions
[19:25] <escott> ikonia, i'm reminded of the story of the person who kept a file with some character on the keyboard so it could be copied and pasted into documents as needed
[19:25] <Dice-Man> ikonia: well the question was badly formulated
[19:25] <Dice-Man> ikonia: i want to know the ascii code for the underscore
[19:26] <Dice-Man> where can i see that ?
[19:26] <ikonia> google ?
[19:26] <ikonia> the ascii database ?
[19:26] <ikonia> it's not really an ubuntu issue
[19:26] <escott> Dice-Man, sudo apt-get install ascii; ascii;
[19:26] <mello> how can i manipulate the effects that unity uses?
[19:26] <cataldS> Hello today I put ubuntu but it bothers me in the eyes watching the monitor, the characters appear to be poorly defined, perhaps this is the cause, is a known problem?
[19:26] <mello> or i mean change/edit them actually
[19:26] <daavis> jhbuild build
[19:26] <daavis> jhbuild: could not load config file, /home/daavis/.jhbuildrc is missing
[19:26] <daavis>  (trying to get shell 3.0)
[19:27] <daavis> oops, sorry
[19:27] <daavis> what to do
[19:27] <daavis> ?
[19:27] <alkafoo> cataldS: perhaps the text is more antialiased than you'd like
[19:27] <alkafoo> cataldS: you can change that
[19:27] <alkafoo> cataldS: if you're just coming from Windows, though, give it a couple weeks you might grow to prefer it
[19:28] <escott> !ccsm | mello
[19:28] <escott> cataldS, its likely the subpixel rendering order is off. change the ordering in your font config settings
[19:29] <mello> escott i thought that unity was running mutter, so how can i change it's settings with ccsm? well let me try so anyways
[19:29] <escott> mello, mutter is gnome3
[19:29] <cataldS> alkafoo: yes I come from windows but i used ubuntu 2 years ago and i had not these issues
[19:29] <kukovlado> hallo
[19:30] <kukovlado> Do You someone know about czech ubuntu?
[19:30] <mello> escott you've got any idea what settings are most likely to cause problems with ATI cards?
[19:30] <Flark706> ok so i'm trying to stop my network manager from running i ran a service Network-Manager stop command but that doesn't seem to have worked
[19:31] <alkafoo> cataldS: well then you either have encountered a bug, or you need to change your text rendering config
[19:31] <escott> mello, no idea sorry
[19:31] <alkafoo> cataldS: you might want to show someone a screenshot and describe what you don't like
[19:32] <kukovlado> please, can you help mee?
[19:32] <escott> Flark706, it is fairly hard to stop nm as it gets started by various dbus messages whenever you plug something in. supposedly putting something in /etc/interfaces will prevent nm from managing that interface
[19:32] <cataldS> alkafoo: I tried to set here http://i.imgur.com/58w8b.png but there are not changes
[19:32] <guntbert> !cz | kukovlado
[19:33] <kukovlado> so, I speak english, and I wants help from you
[19:33] <cataldS> wants? :D
[19:33] <Flark706> escott: lol yea i'm starting to realize that.....any thoughts on what it would be?
[19:34] <escott> kukovlado, but we dont speak czech so we don't know anything about that localization
[19:34] <guntbert> kukovlado: just ask, we will try to help
[19:34] <Webonaute> nobody have idea on probleme I post 30 minute ago?
[19:34] <Flark706> escott: truth be told i just need to stop wpa_supplicant dhclient these two processes
[19:35] <Dice-Man> Webonaute: well, can you re-ask your question please ?
[19:35] <Dice-Man> i might be off when you posted it :)
[19:36] <Webonaute> yeah. I want to connect to a share hosted on a Mac OSX lion. I can connect to it, I can create folder but I cant create/copy/edit file.
[19:36] <Webonaute> with the same user on windows or other mac machine I have no problem
[19:37] <hugo___> hello, im trying to compile MIRACL on ubuntu 11.04 64bit, and doing bash linux64 renders this error: usr/bin/linux64: /usr/bin/linux64: cannot execute binary file anyone know how to solve that?
[19:37] <MapMan> hello. I installed openssh server. How do I set it up so it doesnt start automatically and how do I stop it now?
[19:37] <Flark706> trying to stop wpa_supplicant and dhclient  any thoughts?
[19:38] <AuroraNites21> hello
[19:38] <escott> MapMan, service ssh stop will stop it for now
[19:38] <sunice> MapMan look at rc-update
[19:38] <Flannel> MapMan: It's currently set up to start automatically.  And you can stop it by: `sudo service ssh stop`
[19:39] <sunice> MapMan: Yes that will stop it. If you do not want it to load rc-update will help
[19:39] <MapMan> okay, thanks, Ill look into it
[19:40] <Webonaute> Dice-Man: I have try sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/Share /mnt/share/ -o user=username,sec=lanman,servern=SHARESERVER   I have try to change cifs for smbfs, alway the same error refering to Not implemented function
[19:41] <WormDrink> hi
[19:41] <kokoshmusun> can't access workrave setting in natty, anyone know?
[19:41] <WormDrink> I want my system to start an ssh tunnel on startup
[19:41] <WormDrink> how can I go about achieving this ?
[19:41] <escott> WormDrink, add it to rc.local
[19:43] <Osmodivs> Ok, so I decided to use Ubuntu drivers only. How do I uninstall a .run file from Nvidia?
[19:44] <Kazilla> WormDrink: man update-rc.d (lots of detail there)
[19:45] <MapMan> hmm guys
[19:45] <MapMan> Im confused about the update-rc.d
[19:45] <MapMan> or no
[19:45] <MapMan> nevermind
[19:45] <xox2011> hi
[19:46] <xox2011> wow
[19:46] <xox2011> this is really working!
[19:46] <Kazilla> we are not robots, just confirming
[19:46] <Kazilla> :)
[19:46] <xox2011> hi Kazilla
[19:46] <Kazilla> hi
[19:46] <escott> MapMan, just read some of the example scripts in /etc/init and make your own script to start the tunnel
[19:47] <xox2011> what's up?
[19:47] <sunice> xox2011: just answering questions. Do you have some?
[19:47] <MapMan> escott: I think you confused me with someone :)
[19:47] <Kazilla> nothin, watching the game, drinking ubuntu
[19:47] <xox2011> what question? Sunice
[19:47] <MapMan> snorting hoes, fu*king coke.
[19:48] <escott> MapMan, yes sorry
[19:48] <OverworkDL1> Would anyone be able to help diagnose why I have some rather monstrously large, and growing startup times, as can be seen by my full dmesg log:  http://overminddl1.com/misc/dmesg.txt
[19:49] <sunice> xox2011: hang out for a bit and you'll see. Great distraction from work.
[19:49] <escott> OverworkDL1, note the ext4 orphan stuff
[19:49] <rumaging_pinz> how do i use inxi in chat again
[19:50] <escott> OverworkDL1, your filesystem is corrupted which requires recovery and adds to the boot time. fsck your filesystem first
[19:51] <gurmal> hi
[19:51] <[SPSU]Zach> is there away to install directly to my hard drive?
[19:52] <sunice> Zach: are you running on a live cd? not sure I get the question
[19:52] <escott> OverworkDL1, if it still takes a long time you can install bootchart to see what might be the cause
[19:52] <gurmal> how can update xfce 4.6.1 to 4.6.2(assuming 4.6.2 is available) using apt-get
[19:53] <cataldS> escott: how should I set this? http://i.imgur.com/58w8b.png . I'm trying any configuration but there are not changes.
[19:53] <OverworkDL1> escott:  Perhaps that could be caused by the system not shutting down clean, the computer is never powered off, but it has a tendency to lock up when I run a few graphical intensive applications, even the screen turns into blue/black colored bars when that happens.
[19:53] <sunice> gurmal: if it is part of the repo the release should become available with a simple safe-upgrade option.
[19:53] <escott> cataldS, try different things until it looks better. its a rather subjective thing
[19:54] <sunice> gurmal: I'm not currently running xfce though.
[19:54] <OverworkDL1> The applications I run that cause a lockup, unsure if it is due to the graphics, but every time it crashes it happens when it is writing temporary state to disk, corrupting its data.
[19:54] <escott> cataldS, i would set the dpi first because that you can actually measure
[19:55] <OverworkDL1> escott:  Also, doesn't the orphan recovery take less then a second according to the log?
[19:55] <gurmal> @sunice where can I get that option , using ubuntu karmic 9.1
[19:56] <earthmeLon> I have a Sony Vaio VPCF126FM.  It has an eSATA/USB port.  I am plugging in a SATA hdd to it through a SATA->eSATA cable, but dmesg does not report any new devices when I plug it in.  If I plug in a USB device, it does recognize it.  11.04.  Any suggestions?
[19:56] <gurmal> my problem is that xfce gets stuck after some time , ubuntu works ok with gnome
[19:56] <escott> OverworkDL1, it is easier to fix an identified problem than to speculate on if it causes or does not cause subsequent problems
[19:57] <mansor> i have a problem with my nvidia geforce gt540m and ubuntu 11.04 ,, its not working properly
[19:57] <OverworkDL1> escott:  True, I shall safely reboot when next possible after an fsck
[19:57] <zykotick9_> earthmeLon, my motherboard doesn't support hotplugging esata (some do), try restarting with the external esata plugged in
[19:57] <escott> OverworkDL1, and check your smart status just in case the disk is bad (disk-utility tool)
[19:57] <OverworkDL1> Any thought about the locking up?
[19:58] <Osmodivs> mansor: Download the driver from Nvidia's site
[19:58] <Osmodivs> mansor: You will regret it
[19:58] <OverworkDL1> escott:  Already have checked SMART, not failing, yet anyway
[19:58] <escott> OverworkDL1, and install bootchart. the lockup you are describing is most likely video driver related. drop back to classic
[19:58] <OverworkDL1> escott:  Just did install bootchart
[19:58] <Osmodivs> Ok, rebooting
[19:58] <mansor> why would i regret it ??
[19:58] <rocket16> Hello. I recently installed realtek audio driver on ubuntu and it broke my sound and alsa tools. I reinstalled ubuntu-desktop, gdm and sound tools, but nothing helped. :( Is there a way to fix other than reinstalling?
[19:58] <mansor> i didn't download anything yet ,,
[19:58] <conrad90> How do I install a .tar.bz2?
[19:58] <gurmal> hey any1 xfce gets stuck on karmic , wish to update using apt
[19:59] <OverworkDL1> escott:  Oh I hope it is not video driver related (why freeze only when writing files though?), I need it fully accelerated...
[19:59] <earthmeLon> zykotick9_, I will give that a try.  What use is eSATA if it's not hot-plugable? :P
[19:59] <escott> conrad90, first check if the software is available in synaptic
[19:59] <conrad90> This is Firefox 8.  It is not.
[19:59] <conrad90> I already extracted it via the archive manager
[19:59] <zykotick9_> earthmeLon, hotplugging depends on your hardware!  As for use (even if hotplug doesn't work), 'cause it's like 10X faster then USB...
[20:00] <lolwut> http://kut.as/06aj  please help, i'm still getting this error
[20:00] <escott> OverworkDL1, you said it tends to freeze when running graphically intensive applications
[20:00] <OverworkDL1> escott:  Yes, but it only crashes when both the graphically intensive apps are using the graphics, as well as writing files, *never* when not writing a file...
[20:01] <Osmodivs> mansor: Because Nvidia's propietary drivers are too much for Ubuntu, you should stick with Ubuntu's old but trusty drivers
[20:01] <OverworkDL1> escott:  I do run the GUI accelerated as well, even stressed it out and it never crashed for note
[20:01] <earthmeLon> zykotick9_, Is this my eSATA controller as well as my SATA controller:  SATA controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 05)
[20:01] <escott> OverworkDL1, DMA or IRQ conflict? i don't know
[20:01] <alkafoo> Osmodivs: did you mean nvidia's proprietary drivers _on their site_?
[20:01] <Osmodivs> mansor: I just reinstalled 270.41.19 when I got the 280.13 fron Nvidias site
[20:01] <zykotick9_> earthmeLon, probably?
[20:02] <ryan_> every time I have played wirth vid drivers they crap out on me
[20:02] <OverworkDL1> escott:  Checked those, I shall be remotely rebooting my computer soon and I have bootchart installed so we shall see what it says, thanks for that tip
[20:02] <gurmal> OK guys , seem like you are kinda busy now .. catch ya later
[20:02] <Osmodivs> alkafoo: They are usually in AMD's site
[20:02] <Osmodivs> ^^
[20:02] <earthmeLon> Just trying to figure out a way to look up information about the controller instead of rebooting.  Guess I'm rebooting.  Thanks guys
[20:02] <mansor> the thing is unity isn't working on my laptop ,,,
[20:02] <escott> conrad90, generally for tarballs it is ./configure --prefix=/opt/whatever; make; make install;
[20:02] <JusticeZero> Looking for a wifi card for my desktop. I'd prefer PCI but it looks like they don't make those anymore or something..?
[20:02] <xox2011> sorry guys
[20:03] <rocket16> any help?
[20:03] <xox2011> I am back
[20:03] <ryan_> how old is ur laptop?
[20:03] <mansor> you mean that its because of the driver but installing it will give me so much troubles?
[20:03] <xox2011> someone asked me something a couple of minutes ago
[20:03] <JusticeZero> Any recommendations? The wiki said to look for certain chipsets, but it's not clear what cads have those.
[20:03] <xox2011> are you guys using ubuntu?
[20:04] <JusticeZero> i am?
[20:04] <ryan_> if ur ubuntu detects vid drivers.. install them.. otherwise.. don't play with vid drivers
[20:04] <escott> JusticeZero, wikipedia is often helpful for identifying where the chips are used
[20:04] <xox2011> I'm using asus netbook n it comes with wins 7
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> xox2011: yes, I use ubuntu
[20:04] <JusticeZero> ergh. wikipedia also has an annoying tendency to not be updated regularly in my experience so far.
[20:04] <xox2011> I'm wondering if ubuntu would be better
[20:04] <gebbione> is there a way to open my hidden folders from gnome?
[20:05] <gebbione> for instance
[20:05] <xox2011> hi Action
[20:05] <ryan_> lol
[20:05] <ryan_> totally better than win 7
[20:05] <gebbione> /home/user/.hidden
[20:05] <zykotick9_> gebbione, ctrl+h to show hidden
[20:05] <ryan_> but lots to learn
[20:05] <ryan_> its not the end all to be all
[20:05] <gebbione> ryan too much
[20:05] <xox2011> oh
[20:05] <escott> gebbione, nautilus has a "show hidden folders" preference
[20:05] <gebbione> see all these things
[20:05] <escott> gebbione, ctrl-l and type the path
[20:05] <xox2011> I see
[20:05] <gebbione> should have an interface equivalent
[20:05] <JusticeZero> xox define 'better'. I know I can do a lot with ubuntu running x on a netbook that would be out of reach if it was running xp, and win7 is even more of a bear.
[20:05] <xox2011> thanks Ryan
[20:06] <JasonGriffee> How do I install a Dell a920 printer?
[20:06] <daavis> will gnome3 be on 11.10 ?
[20:06] <escott> daavis, yes
[20:06] <Polah> daavis: It will be supported, but not on there by default
[20:06] <th0r> JasonGriffee: you have cups installed?
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> daavis: yes
[20:07] <daavis> nice
[20:07] <JasonGriffee> th0r, cups?
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> xox2011: better is an opinion, so never concrete. Depends what you use your OS for
[20:07] <th0r> JasonGriffee: open a web browser and point it to localhost:631
[20:07] <daavis> Polah, you mean.. it will be like an option ? selectable ?
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> xox2011: I suggest you boot to liveCD or LiveUSB and you can test for yourself
[20:07] <escott> daavis, sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[20:07] <th0r> JasonGriffee: should get you the cups configuration that will allow you to define another printer
[20:08] <JasonGriffee> th0r, CUPS 1.4.6?
[20:08] <Polah> daavis: You will need to install it afterwards. Or perhaps there will be a distribution with GNOME alongside the likes of Xubuntu or Kubuntu.
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> daavis: oneiric is only supported and discussed in #ubuntu+1 until release day
[20:08] <daavis> well, it's risky to install as I read from different sources, escott
[20:08] <daavis> for example http://blog.sudobits.com/2011/04/26/how-to-install-gnome-3-on-ubuntu-11-04/
[20:08] <zykotick9_> !gnome3 > daavis
[20:08] <alkafoo> Osmodivs: ...
[20:08] <escott> daavis, it is very risk for 11.04 because of the gtk3 vs gtk2 issues, not for 11.10
[20:09] <Osmodivs> alkafoo: Yes?
[20:09] <escott> daavis, so after you make the 11.04->11.10 upgrade do sudo apt-get install gnome-shell and then you can select it on login
[20:09] <daavis> cool
[20:09] <alkafoo> you just said nvidia drivers are on amd's site =P
[20:09] <daavis> yeah!
[20:09] <Osmodivs> alkafoo: I'm kidding
[20:09] <Osmodivs> come on!
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> !gnome3 | daavis
[20:10] <Osmodivs> ^ Yep, where stick with UNITY
[20:10] <Osmodivs> i mean, stuck
[20:10] <alkafoo> ...
[20:11] <Polah> Osmodivs: Nobody is stuck with anything. If you don't like Unity, use any other environment you want.
[20:11] <Silver[a]> is there a way to 'freeze' an executable for the next x minutes, so that it may not be run?  Is chmod the best choice to ensure nothing starts a new process?  I'd like a way of letting existing processes exit gracefully, but make sure nothing new starts while I'm waiting.
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> but Polah ....Gnome is teh only DE :)
[20:11] <ikonia> Silver[a]: ctrl z
[20:11] <Osmodivs> Polah: Well, I want GNOME3 but there is no way to use it without breaking something in Ubuntu
[20:11] <Polah> ActionParsnip: Don't you use LXDE?
[20:11] <zykotick9_> ActionParsnip, well said :p
[20:11] <Polah> Osmodivs: It'll be available in 11.01
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: use Oneiric
[20:12] <escott> Silver[a], -x'ing is the best bet
[20:12] <Polah> 10*
[20:12] <JasonGriffee> th0r: I went to add the printer, but it wants a PPD file
[20:12] <daavis> thanks for bunch of good answers :) so we wait... we sit and we wait.. we wait for next ubuntu version
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> Polah: it was a joke, the bashing people give Unity, makes them sound like they think gnome is the only DE
[20:12] <escott> Silver[a], just make sure you hit all the x's
[20:12] <th0r> JasonGriffee: might find that on the manufacturer's webpage. Been ages since I used a printer or CU
[20:12] <th0r> PS
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> daavis: bit more than a month away, i'm sure you'll survive
[20:12] <alkafoo> Osmodivs: ubottu just said how
[20:13] <kkb110> how do I see the list of open ports of my machine and what application is using that?
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> alkafoo: she also said it breaks things
[20:13] <Osmodivs> Well, Unity is just a bad copy of GNOME3, really, I was just getting used to open a trminal with ALT-CTRL-T
[20:13] <Silver[a]> escott: I'm not following you.  -x?'
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> kkb110: netstat -a
[20:13] <JasonGriffee> th0r: should i be looking for dell a920 or lexmark 600?
[20:13] <Osmodivs> You can't do that in KDE or LX...something
[20:13] <kkb110> ActionParsnip, Thanks -a
[20:13] <daavis> ActionParsnip, i hope i will :))
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> kkb110: if you are behine a router, and want to test that then you will need to get websites to scan you etc
[20:14] <JasonGriffee> th0r: z600, sorry
[20:14] <escott> Silver[a], chmod u-x,g-x,o-x
[20:14] <th0r> JasonGriffee: often you won't find your specific printer and just have to try several from teh same manufacturer until you find one that works
[20:14] <ikonia> Silver[a]: just press ctrl + z on the running process
[20:14] <alkafoo> ActionParsnip: it said it breaks Unity, which presumably someone wanting ordinary GNOME3 won't want
[20:14] <Silver[a]> escott: aha.  OK.  I'm mostly concerned that I'll forget/miss one to put back.  :)
[20:14] <Polah> Osmodivs: Ctrl+Alt+T works in LXDE
[20:14] <Silver[a]> ikonia: the processes are not in the foreground to begin with, so that will not help, thanks.
[20:15] <ikonia> Silver[a]: understood
[20:15] <JasonGriffee> th0r: throwing random drivers at it won't do any harm will it?
[20:15] <Polah> escott, Silver[a]: Couldn't that be simplified to ugo-x?
[20:15] <th0r> JasonGriffee: no....you can try one, if it doesnt' work delete it in cups and try another. You can even leave them defined...it won't hurt to have several printers defined that are not connected
[20:16] <escott> Polah, maybe ill try that next time
[20:16] <Polah> escott: I recall seeing something about being able to combine then like that
[20:17] <th0r> JasonGriffee: while you are there, you might want to install cups-pdf. It allows you to print to a pdf file instead of a printer
[20:17] <GordonGR> ActionParsnip: did you manage anything? in the meantime, I found this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules nd I'll try it, hoping it's not obsolete
[20:18] <[SPSU]Zach> is there a way to install directly to my hard drive?
[20:18] <Polah> [SPSU]Zach: Yes, there's an install option from the live session.
[20:19] <[SPSU]Zach> whenever i try to boot from my cd/usb it says "unable to find medium containting live file system" after the purple ubuntu screen with orange dots
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> GordonGR: I had to start work. Do you have the link still?
[20:19] <[SPSU]Zach> i have tried redownloading the iso several times
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> [SPSU]Zach: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[20:20] <[SPSU]Zach> yes i tested it
[20:20] <[SPSU]Zach> didnt match
[20:20] <[SPSU]Zach> every time i donwloaded it didnt match
[20:20] <[SPSU]Zach> :(
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> [SPSU]Zach: then you'll need to redownload. the file is corrupt
[20:20] <GordonGR> ActionParsnip: sure, it's http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=6dcbb2feb24fe47cc4926a755ec4540ea7e10530
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> [SPSU]Zach: use torrent
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> GordonGR: thanks
[20:20] <[SPSU]Zach> okay
[20:22] <B0g4r7> How can I query apt to ask if a given package is currently installed or not?
[20:22] <xox2011> gotta go
[20:22] <xox2011> take care all
[20:22] <xox2011> bye
[20:22] <sunice> B0g4r7:  try <aptitude search package>
[20:22] <B0g4r7> (I'm writing an 'installer script', so the more programatic the method the better)
[20:23] <escott> B0g4r7, dpkg -l "*pattern*"
[20:23] <zykotick9_> B0g4r7, "sudo dpkg -l | grep foo"
[20:23] <escott> B0g4r7, i dont think aptitude is on all systems so best to use dpkg
[20:24] <B0g4r7> dpkg -l seems to work.  Thanks.
[20:24] <zykotick9_> escott, thanks - didn't know dpkg had a built in search like that
[20:25] <[SPSU]Zach> i forgot im at college and they dont allow torrent files
[20:25] <sunice> escott: I didn't know either something new every day. Love the community
[20:25] <escott> zykotick9_, its a little annoying to use because it doesn't put * on either side and * matches the shell wildcards so you get inconsistent results depending on whether or not the shell matches the pattern
[20:26] <zykotick9_> escott, i agree - took me a few attempt to get it to work ;)  i believe the grepping is probably easier, but it's always good to learn new tricks.
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> GordonGR: does the system have a make and model?
[20:27] <GordonGR> it's a custom computer,  just parts assembled.
[20:28] <GordonGR> ActionParsnip: it's a custom computer, just parts assembled. It's a desktop.
[20:29] <[SPSU]Zach> does winmd55sum work on all versions of ubuntu?
[20:29] <[SPSU]Zach> or is thre a different download for each version?
[20:29] <escott> [SPSU]Zach, md5sum changes for every file
[20:30] <Selassie> How to format all hard disks and undo partitions?
[20:30] <zykotick9_> [SPSU]Zach, gnu/linux has md5sum, while the bsds (mac) have md5 i believe.  winmd5sum is the windows version i take it?
[20:31] <escott> Selassie, install and use gparted
[20:31] <Selassie> but i want to install windows first
[20:31] <Selassie> and then ubuntu
[20:31] <Selassie> and then debian
[20:32] <GordonGR> Selassie: then do it with the windows installer.
[20:32] <sunice> Zach: I think everyone is looking for a bit more detail on your question. MD5sum works great. winmd5sum works great on windows. Not sure if that answers you question
[20:32] <Guest72310> is there a way to setup asus k43s multi touch mouse pad in ubuntu 11.04 ???
[20:32] <flopato> why does "sudo newgrp" make me root?
[20:32] <Selassie> oh k
[20:32] <escott> Selassie, it might be easier to create the partition table first just so you dont have to resize windows
[20:32] <shawn_> How come Port 22 is refused when I try to ssh within my simple LAN?
[20:32] <jrib> flopato: because you ran newgrp with sudo
[20:32] <flopato> jrib: but newgrp is to change the gid
[20:32] <flopato> and sudo newgrp changes my uid also
[20:32] <jrib> flopato: so why are you using sudo?
[20:33] <escott> Selassie, im not sure if the windows installer will let you install to less than the full drive
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> GordonGR: gotcha
[20:33] <Polah> shawn_: Are you SSHing in or out of your system?
[20:33] <jrib> flopato: newgrp basically starts a new shell
[20:33] <[SPSU]Zach> sorry i was doing something
[20:33] <[SPSU]Zach> winmd55sum is windows yes
[20:33] <flopato> jrib: but with root rights?
[20:33] <JasonGriffee> is there a good place to find old lexmark ppd files?
[20:33] <shawn_> I'm just tring to ssh into a laptop from my desktop
[20:33] <escott> shawn_, do you have a firewall setup
[20:33] <[SPSU]Zach> so it will work for 10.10?
[20:33] <jrib> flopato: because you ran it with sudo, you shoudl just run "newgrp"
[20:33] <shawn_> no
[20:33] <GordonGR> flopato: yes, it can't be done otherwise.
[20:33] <Selassie> But how do I do that?
[20:33] <flopato> jrib: yes i know! just did it to try out
[20:33] <Guest72310> is there a way to setup asus k43s multi touch mouse pad in ubuntu 11.04 ???
[20:33] <sunice> Selassie: Ubuntu will resize the drive for you when you go to install it after windows.
[20:33] <escott> [SPSU]Zach, windows and linux executable as different so no
[20:34] <sunice> selassie: same with debian
[20:34] <shawn_> is that weird?
[20:34] <flopato> jrib: so whats the reason for the uid change? why does sudo makes newgrp change my uid?
[20:35] <flopato> jrib: is it because newgrp opens a new shell
[20:35] <sunice> shawn: have you tried an nmap to see if the port is open.
[20:35] <Guest72310> is there a way to setup asus k43s multi touch mouse pad in ubuntu 11.04 ???
[20:35] <jrib> flopato: yes
[20:35] <shawn_> nmap?
[20:35] <[SPSU]Zach> im at college using their internets could that be a problem
[20:35] <sunice> shawn: Could be host.deny, or an iptables rule
[20:35] <escott> shawn_, check iptables -L on the ssh server
[20:35] <Polah> shawn_: Do you have SSH properly configured and running on the laptop?
[20:35] <flopato> jrib: and because sudo gives me root rights temporary it opens the new shell as root?
[20:36] <[SPSU]Zach> marcin
[20:36] <jrib> flopato: yes
[20:37] <flopato> jrib: okay thx! didn't know that newgrp opens up a new shell!
[20:37] <flopato> jrib: now everything is clear and consistent ;)
[20:38] <escott> [SPSU]Zach, thats not too unusual. they don't want people running servers so they may be blocking cross traffic on their network
[20:38] <shawn_> I'm not sure how to configure ssh.  I thought It was already part of the library.
[20:38] <[SPSU]Zach> what do you mean blocking cross traffic?
[20:38] <escott> [SPSU]Zach, do other things like streaming music off other peoples itunes work?
[20:38] <Polah> shawn_: SSH server isn't installed by default, it's an option with the server install. Else, you need to install openssh-server from the repos
[20:38] <flopato> jrib: okay thank you! have a nice day
[20:38] <escott> [SPSU]Zach, is one on wifi and the other wired... etc.
[20:39] <[SPSU]Zach> i havent tried streaming wifi
[20:39] <shawn_> ok I'll try
[20:39] <[SPSU]Zach> itunes whatever
[20:39] <[SPSU]Zach> my network setup is
[20:39] <[SPSU]Zach> i have a router set up
[20:39] <[SPSU]Zach> since theirs is down
[20:39] <[SPSU]Zach> wireless router
[20:39] <flopato> exit
[20:39] <JasonGriffee> where would be a starting point for finding ppd files?
[20:39] <flopato> lol
[20:39] <escott> [SPSU]Zach, so you have your own router and both your systems are on it
[20:39] <[SPSU]Zach> systems?
[20:40] <escott> [SPSU]Zach, computers
[20:40] <[SPSU]Zach> i have one computer
[20:40] <dob_> can i copy my running system to another partition.
[20:40] <dob_> ?
[20:40] <escott> [SPSU]Zach, sorry i got threads confused... nevermind
[20:41] <sunice> dob_: yes gparted should help
[20:41] <Polah> JasonGriffee, use find to find files
[20:41] <zykotick9_> JasonGriffee, the ususal starting point is http://www.openprinting.org/printers BUT it's down due to a security breach :(  Good luck.
[20:41] <escott> JasonGriffee, try cups.org
[20:42] <HSarena> hello
[20:42] <dob_> sunice: Also parted?
[20:42] <HSarena> I need help
[20:42] <sunice> dob_:yes
[20:42] <AuroraNites21> hi
[20:43] <genii-around> HSarena: Best to just describe the issue you need help with to the channel in general, someone may know the answer
[20:43] <HSarena> i wanna use my laptop hotkey.. i have sony vaio laptop...
[20:43] <Polah> HSarena: What hotkey?
[20:43] <JasonGriffee> are any other lexmark drivers compatible with the z600?
[20:43] <[SPSU]Zach> i have an idea
[20:43] <chilversc> where do I go to manually add an item to the applications/launcher?
[20:43] <HSarena> Polah: i mean laptop shortcut keys
[20:43]  * Erevanic-Txa hey all, I'm wondering what's the best torrent software for the latest version of Ubuntu ?
[20:44] <Polah> HSarena: What shortcut keys? There's lots of keys on a laptop...
[20:44] <dob_> sunice: with cp command in parted?
[20:44] <[SPSU]Zach> those who need help ask your question to the channel and then someone can pm them so they odnt have to look thru the clutter
[20:44] <guntbert> !best | Erevanic-Txa
[20:44] <sunice> HSarena: must first make sure you have the keyboard model set correctly.
[20:44] <Polah> Erevanic-Txa, there is no "best" software. Transmission comes by default but you could use any client you wanted.
[20:45] <guntbert> [SPSU]Zach: no, we prefer to keep the conversations in the channel
[20:45] <thehumanerror> does anyone know why StarCraft II says "Failed to initialize DirectX" all of a sudden?
[20:45] <dob_> sunice: does not work with mounted devices
[20:45] <thehumanerror> it didn't yesterday, I'm running 11.10 beta, last night there was some updates, that's the only thing I can think of
[20:45] <[SPSU]Zach> so my school's network is messing with the ubuntu iso files im downloading then?
[20:45] <Erevanic-Txa> Polah, well, I'm currently using Transmission, and I just have downloaded all 2pac's albums and half of the files came with this name "_____padding_file_22_if you see this file, please update to BitComet 0.85 or above__"
[20:46] <cwong> i have a rt8188su wireless card and i want it to work with kismet, whats the source line i use to launch kismet?
[20:46] <sunice> dob_: yes that will do it. Make sure you are setting the correct partitions. can break if you are not careful. There are live disks for this also.
[20:46] <Polah> thehumanerror: 11.10 is unstable and thus may not work properly. Ask in #ubuntu+1 for help.
[20:46] <thehumanerror> I have, thanks Polah :)
[20:46] <Polah> Erevanic-Txa, try not to discuss illegal topics in here.
[20:46] <thehumanerror> but I wondered if sometimes SC2 saying there was no DirectX was a common thing
[20:46] <abbdd1112> is there a way to setup asus k43s multi touch mouse pad on ubuntu 11.04?
[20:46] <leeping> Hi there - is there any way to run "updatedb" just for myself, not as "root" ?
[20:47] <[SPSU]Zach> would tor browser help?
[20:47] <escott> [SPSU]Zach, perhaps they are proxying http traffic and their proxy is returning a bad file. you could try a different address or ftp or use the torrent because it checksums each block
[20:47] <Polah> thehumanerror: It works fairly well on 11.04 with Wine 1.3.25. The only issue is Pulseaudio corrupting which can be avoided by suspending pulse for SC2 and bypassing it
[20:47] <leeping> I'm just trying to locate some files on the filesystem but I'm not "root" so I can't run "updatedb" :(
[20:47] <Erevanic-Txa> Polah, it sounds to me just you have no answer of the question, because simply instead of 2pac song's it could be my work documents, so does that change anything? problem with still remain... just say you have no idea what to do I'm fine with that
[20:47] <[SPSU]Zach> torrents wont work here :(
[20:48] <BarkingFish> leeping - sudo updatedb will do the job for you
[20:48] <dob_> Any idea how i can copy my mounted root partition to another partition
[20:48] <thehumanerror> Polah, that sounds an interesting idea, the sound does go choppy sometimes
[20:49] <thehumanerror> but now it's not running at all and I think that's because of the DirectX / OpenGL problem
[20:49] <sunice> dob_: you will need gparted live cd
[20:49] <escott> dob_, copying a mounted partition like that is a bit risky, as the underlying contents could be changing. best to copy it from a livecd
[20:49] <abbdd1112> is there a way to setup asus k43s multi touch mouse pad on ubuntu 11.04?
[20:49] <dob_> sunice: can't reboot that system.
[20:49] <Polah> thehumanerror: Yeah, it's the only problem I've had with it, besides having to change the mounting options for the CD at installation.    pasuspender wine /path/to/SC2/executable     will start up SC2 and suspend pulse for it while it's running, you should still get sound though. I can't really help you with any problems on 11.10 though, like I said, it is unstable.
[20:50] <leeping> BarkingFish, I can't do sudo.
[20:50] <leeping> I'm on a cluster where I don't have root access
[20:50] <sunice> dob_: that's risky business. some tools check for changes after copying, but I would not recommend this. I've done and failed before.
[20:50] <escott> dob_, if you can convert to raid mirroring you could add a mirror device
[20:50] <Polah> dob_: You could create the second partition and then use dd copy it
[20:50] <escott> Polah, not while it is mounted rw
[20:51] <guntbert> leeping: in that case employ "find"
[20:51] <dob_> okay, will debootstrap a new system on the new partitions
[20:51] <escott> dob_, but i think to go to raid you need to be modify partition types so i think you still need a livecd
[20:51] <sunice> Dob_: is it a bare metal machine?
[20:51] <leeping> guntbert, "find" takes forever to search through a file system, hours sometimes if it's large
[20:51] <Polah> dob_: dd if=/dev/originalpartition of=/dev/newpartition
[20:52] <thehumanerror> Polah, thanks, I'll try that too
[20:52] <escott> dob_, don't follow Polah's instructions. those are not safe for a mounted partition (unless it is mounted ro)
[20:52] <dob_> sunice: yes
[20:52] <guntbert> leeping: I guess you will know, where to search
[20:52] <dob_> escott: yes, dd will fail...
[20:52] <sunice> dob_: Sorry I do not have a safe answer for you then.
[20:52] <Polah> Hmm, I guess since writes would interfere
[20:53] <Polah> leep: If you have a fair idea of where they are you could go down a directory or a few to narrow the search
[20:53] <r4> anyone have luck getting ESEAclient and CS 1.6 working together to actually play on a server?
[20:53] <r4> using wine of course
[20:53] <escott> dob_, you could try to init down to single user mode or boot to only initrd... and then it would be mounted ro
[20:53] <dob_> escott: think that's a good idea. I will try that
[20:54] <sunice> escott: good call
[20:54] <dob_> escott: Can i copy stuff like /dev or should i ignore dev proc etc and then just create empty folders?
[20:55] <HSarena> I mean the playback control area of my laptop
[20:55] <escott> dob_, you would ignore stuff like /dev, but the other thing you have to realize is that a dd of the system root is not a working system. its a dd. you have to go in and fix-up stuff in fstab and potentially elsewhere
[20:56] <toyman61> OpenShot video editor: Imported .VOB-file from DVD. Put it on the timeline, and tried to playback. No sound available.
[20:56] <escott> dob_, if you just dd the partition device you wouldn't get dev anyways
[20:56] <HSarena> Polah : I mean the playback control area of my laptop
[20:56] <toyman61>  OpenShot video editor: Imported .VOB-file from DVD. Put it on the timeline, and tried to playback. No sound available. The speaker icon is available on the visual part of the clip on the timeline. What do I do ?
[20:57] <leeping> guntbert, thanks for the tip.  Often I don't know where to search.  I know the name of the file / program and I want to locate it on the filesystem
[20:58] <leeping> Sometimes it's in /opt, sometimes /share, sometimes /usr, etc etc ...
[20:58] <guntbert> !fhs | leeping
[20:58] <nunuyabiz> can someone tell what repository I need to add to get /usr/bin/toc2cue for brasero?
[20:59] <escott> leeping, you might be able to point updatedb to a different updatedb.conf and keep all the stuff in your $HOME. i would check the man pages for those programs
[20:59] <escott> nunuyabiz, apt-file can help here
[20:59] <rdyco> i have windows installed. i am installing ubuntu as dual boot. when i get to the screen where on the bottom it ask  Device for boot loader installation: do i go with /dev/sda ATA WDC (1.0 TB) or /dev/sda1/ Windows 7 (loader) ?
[21:00] <guntbert> !info cdrdao | nunuyabiz
[21:00] <escott> nunuyabiz, ~:>  apt-file search toc2cue cdrdao: /usr/bin/toc2cue
[21:00] <leeping> escott, thank you.  I'll do what I can. :)
[21:00] <vigina> G
[21:00] <nunuyabiz> escott thanks
[21:00] <escott> rdyco, /dev/sda i think
[21:00] <Polah> What can I use to mass-convert FLAC to MP3 or another format?
[21:00] <leeping> guntbert, I have access to several different HPC clusters.  Some of them are running Red Hat, some CentOS, others Ubuntu.  And the location of the installed programs often depend on the administrators' decisions.  So even though Ubuntu itself might have a structured file system, I still need a general way to search for files.
[21:01] <plouffe_> the ubuntu logo right after the grub menu before the login screen has a super low resolution. How can I fix that?
[21:01] <EDinNY> how can I get a more "classic" interface on 11.04?
[21:01] <escott> Polah, a command line script to pipe wav data from flacplayer to lame
[21:01] <HSarena> sunice : I mean the playback control area of my laptop
[21:01] <guntbert> leeping: there is one : find :)
[21:01] <GordonGR> Polah: I'd say soundconverter, as well.
[21:01] <Polah> escott: And how exactly would I set that up?
[21:02] <rdyco> escott, will installing bootloader in /dev/ATA give me dual boot and not overwrite the ubuntu boot record?
[21:02] <astropirate> Anyone know of a high-end linux box dealer?
[21:02] <Echapa> hey people i am trying to connect a mini switch i need help to connected
[21:02] <astropirate> is there even a market for it?
[21:02] <rdyco> or does installing ubuntu boot loader in /dev/sda1 Windows 7  (loader) put it along side windows 7 or does this overwrite it?
[21:02] <leeping> guntbert, thanks but I think we've been over that -- running "find" on the entire filesystem takes forever.  It is much easier to run "updatedb" once per day and then have people use "locate".  When I was the administrator of a cluster, that's what I would do .. but I'm not the administrator of these new computers
[21:03] <escott> Polah, a) figure out what the flac command is to make wav output and then (b) pipe that to lame and then (c) put it inside the -exec argument to find. i'm afraid i cannot recommend a gui, because i dont know of any
[21:03] <EDinNY> red%blue
[21:03] <escott> rdyco, generally you put grub on the mbr and then the grub menu allows you to chainload windows. so that would entail installing ubuntu bootloader (grub) to /dev/sda
[21:04] <zykotick9_> astropirate, the market for "high end linux boxs" is called servers ;)  or workstations.  Neither of which you're probably looking for ;)  Good luck.
[21:04] <guntbert> leeping: I hear you - but this channel is for ubuntu support only - try what escott suggested
[21:04] <genii-around> astropirate: System76 has some pretty good stuff
[21:04] <leeping> guntbert, point taken.  Thanks
[21:04] <EDinNY> sagdjk
[21:04] <EDinNY> exit
[21:05] <sunice> astropirate: system76 is the best I know of
[21:05] <plouffe_> .
[21:05] <nunuyabiz> escott I did" sudo apt-get install apt-file     and it replied missing destination file after apt-file. Do I just need to put in an absolute path and use any folder?
[21:05] <escott> rdyco, putting grub on the partition boot record of a windows partition is almost certainly a bad idea
[21:05] <mongy> Polah, soundconverter is decent
[21:06] <escott> nunuyabiz, sounds like something got typoed. can you !paste the terminal session
[21:06] <Polah> mongy: Yeah, I've just got it, going to use find and xargs to copy it away
[21:06] <nunuyabiz> sudo apt-get install apt-file
[21:06] <nunuyabiz> nunuyabiz@nunuyabiz-desktop:~$ sudo apt=get install apt-file
[21:06] <nunuyabiz> [sudo] password for nunuyabiz:
[21:06] <nunuyabiz> install: missing destination file operand after `apt-file'
[21:06] <nunuyabiz> Try `install --help' for more information.
[21:06] <nunuyabiz> nunuyabiz@nunuyabiz-desktop:~$
[21:06] <FloodBot1> nunuyabiz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:06] <escott> !paste | nunuyabiz
[21:07] <escott> nunuyabiz, apt-get not apt=get
[21:07] <nunuyabiz> sorry
[21:07] <mongy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1096665    towards the bottom.  good suggestion
[21:07] <astropirate> genii-around:, sunice, zykotick9_ : I wanted to enter teh maket :D  asking arround linux users if such a thing is sustainable so far the answere is no :(
[21:08] <gebbione> here is another one
[21:08] <gebbione> how do u install fonts on ubuntu
[21:08] <zykotick9_> astropirate, that would be a question for offtopic
[21:09] <sunice> astropirate: yeah I've bought a couple machines for my office from system76. I think I may be one of the biggest purchasers... Not a big market
[21:09] <Jordan_U> !fonts | gebbione
[21:09] <g30> hi all latest update 11.10 remove all 32bit apps? cannot use any cannot even start them, wine,skype  ???? any idea? thanks
[21:09] <Polah> How can I use xargs to cp multiple files. I have xargs --arg-file=file cp, but cp requires the file first and then the destination afterwards, would appending the destination to all the lines in the argument file do the trick?
[21:10] <zykotick9_> g30, #ubuntu+1
[21:10] <nn52> hello
[21:10] <sunice> Hello
[21:10] <MonkeyDust> is it me you lokking for?
[21:10] <MonkeyDust> o
[21:10] <zeus> hi all, i ve just set up a raid device and now i have /dev/md0 . Do i have to partition it first of mkfs ?
[21:10] <rdyco> escott, windows is installed on /dev/sda2, ubuntu is going to be installed on /dev/sda3 at Device for boot loader installation: do i choose /dev/sda ATA WDC (1.0TB) or /dev/sda3 where ubuntu is going to be installed
[21:11] <nn52> i've litte problem with chromium and google-chrome
[21:11] <Jordan_U> Polah: It's usually better to use the -exec argument of find rather than find + xargs.
[21:11] <Jordan_U> Polah: What are you actually trying to accomplish?
[21:11] <escott> rdyco, thats a different question from before. ubuntu's root partition "/" should be set to /dev/sda3. the bootloader should be on /dev/sda
[21:12] <sunice> nn52: interesting?
[21:12] <Polah> Jordan_U: I'm using find to find a number of .flac files and cp them to a subdirectory. I've got it working with xargs now anyway, I just appended the destination to each line
[21:12] <nn52> http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/3599/zrzutekranu1om.png
[21:12] <nunuyabiz> escott I ran the command and got a box that said, "apt-file update needed" when I ran that action, it gave me another box that said, "There was an error in creating the child process for this Terminal."
[21:12] <escott> nunuyabiz, again a weird error so I'd like to see the terminal session
[21:13] <nn52> idk why letter is on letter
[21:13] <nn52> no ideas?
[21:14] <sunice> nn52: I looked at the image and did not understand the question. Gotta be specific with us slow folk.
[21:14] <Jordan_U> Polah: find /search/path/ -iname '*.flac' -exec echo cp '{}' /path/to/destination ';'
[21:14] <Jordan_U> Polah: Sorry, that was for testing, remove the 'echo'.
[21:14] <nn52> sunice, Letter is on Letter
[21:15] <sunice> oh overlapping?
[21:15] <Polah> Jordan_U: I'll try it if this fails. I just had to escape some more characters. Thanks for the line though, I'll use it in future
[21:15] <nn52> yup
[21:15] <sunice> nn52: only on that website? does the same thing happen in other browsers?
[21:15] <mongy> Polah, try "for f in *;do flac -cd $f |lame -b 128 - $f.mp3;done
[21:15] <TuRnc04tZ> hey guys
[21:15] <nn52> not... on all korean language websites
[21:16] <nn52> and  only in google-chrome and chromium
[21:16] <nn52> firefox its Ok
[21:16] <TuRnc04tZ> i have a quick question. I installed xfce on ubuntu 11.04 and i wanted to know if its possible to use KDM instead of the XFCE login manager
[21:16] <mongy> Polah, assuming you have lame and flac installed
[21:16] <Jordan_U> Polah: The reason why this method is preffered is that find passes the filenames directly, so no matter what characters are in the filenames (even newlines) they will be passed properly to cp.
[21:16] <Polah> mongy: To convert it? I'll try in a minute, just copying all the FLACs away first. They're mixed in with MP3s, so I need to shift them to do anything to them. Silly Xbox doesn't support FLAC ):
[21:16] <Shirakawasuna> TuRnc04tZ: Yes, it is.
[21:16] <TuRnc04tZ> Shirakawasuna, how?
[21:16] <zeus> hi all, i ve just set up a raid device and now i have /dev/md0 . Do i have to partition it first of mkfs ?
[21:16] <TuRnc04tZ> im googling around but i cant find anything that is relevant for this new system
[21:17] <zykotick9_> TuRnc04tZ, i imagine KDM would require all the KDE libraries which could be fairly large
[21:17] <nunuyabiz> escott can I put screen shots in paste bin, because there is basically no terminal text
[21:17] <Polah> Jordan_U: It takes each name and puts it in quotes automatically? Compared to xargs which I had to escape with?
[21:17] <escott> !paste > nunuyabiz
[21:17] <Shirakawasuna> TuRnc04tZ: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[21:17] <sunice> nn52: appears to be know issue http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=82400
[21:17] <TuRnc04tZ> Shirakawasuna, i ran that and nothing happened
[21:17] <Shirakawasuna> TuRnc04tZ: is gdm installed?
[21:18] <Jordan_U> Polah: It takes each name and creates an array of strings which is passed directly to cp. There is no quoting or escaping needed as find is calling cp directly rather than threw the shell.
[21:18] <TuRnc04tZ> should be
[21:18] <TuRnc04tZ> it was a fresh ubuntu install
[21:18] <TuRnc04tZ> let me check
[21:18] <Shirakawasuna> hmm
[21:18] <sunice> nn52: didn't read all, but browser support not my specialty sorry.
[21:18] <TuRnc04tZ> yeah, gdm is at newest version
[21:18] <Shirakawasuna> TuRnc04tZ: I expect you should at least get an error message or something when running that configuration command
[21:18] <Shirakawasuna> TuRnc04tZ: is KDM installed?
[21:18] <TuRnc04tZ> im running xfce tho so it may not do anything
[21:18] <Shirakawasuna> TuRnc04tZ: and just to check, why do you want KDM?
[21:19] <Polah> Jordan_U: I see. I'll use it in future then, thanks for the information
[21:19] <TuRnc04tZ> i just like how it looks better
[21:19] <Jordan_U> Polah: You're welcome.
[21:19] <TuRnc04tZ> wait
[21:19] <TuRnc04tZ> yep
[21:19] <TuRnc04tZ> just came up kdm
[21:19] <TuRnc04tZ> checking now
[21:19] <FloodBot1> TuRnc04tZ: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:19] <TuRnc04tZ> brb, Thanks Shirakawasuna
[21:19] <slacknoob> So I have set /dev/sda2 as my /home when I installed Ubuntu. Now I want to say /dev/sda1 is my home, but it seems I can't handle with the tool /etc/fstab tells me to use to get the UUID code of the device. Could anyone help me?
[21:19] <daveinlv> Is us.archive.ubuntu.com down? Have been trying to update all afternoon and I keep getting a "temporary failure resolving  us.archive.ubuntu.com".... Good connectivity otherwise...
[21:20] <escott> slacknoob, sudo blkid
[21:20] <slacknoob> escott: whatever I do, it doesn't reply me anything.
[21:20] <sunice> daveinlv: just ran update on one of my servers. did not see error.
[21:20] <Shirakawasuna> daveinlv: I can ping it
[21:20] <Polah> mongy: -b 128 is the bitrate for the MP3 right?
[21:21] <mongy> Polah, yeah, bit rubbish I know
[21:21] <escott> slacknoob, try sudo blkid -p
[21:22] <daveinlv> hmmm.. ok guess it must be me... thanks!!
[21:22] <Polah> mongy: No issues with changing that to 320?
[21:22] <frozen_> hi guys, got this error "/proc is not mounted; some java apps may fail" installing sun-java6-bin on ubuntu 10.04 84 bit vps. any help? Need it for a funambol server (installation error: [java] Could not create the Java virtual machine.)
[21:22] <slacknoob> escott: ty
[21:22] <mongy> Polah, nope
[21:22] <escott> slacknoob, that requires a device sudo blkid -p /dev/sda#
[21:22] <Polah> mongy: Good, thanks.
[21:23] <escott> frozen_, check the output of mount if procfs is not mounted on /proc you have some problems with your system. add it to your fstab
[21:23] <slacknoob> escott: yeah yeah, it worked.
[21:23] <slacknoob> escott: so now I got the UUID replaced it in /etc/fstab and it's ready, right?
[21:23] <sunice> frozen: cat /etc/fstab
[21:23] <slacknoob> When I reboot, it should mount /dev/sda1 as /home
[21:23] <Polah> Ooh, 4.7GB of FLAC, this is going to take a while
[21:23] <escott> slacknoob, it should
[21:23] <frozen_> ok, there is no /proc in it, but there are some files in /proc?
[21:24] <The_BROS> Hello!
[21:24] <slacknoob> escott: ty
[21:24] <Polah> How can I change spaces in a filename to _ with a for loop?
[21:24] <escott> frozen_, its actually proc on /proc not procfs (my mistake)
[21:25] <The_BROS> Do I need to register my nickname if I can type now without registration?
[21:25] <IdleOne> The_BROS: no but some channels require you to be registered and identified to be able to join.
[21:26] <Shirakawasuna> wget --mirror is the best thing ever invented
[21:26] <Shirakawasuna> evre
[21:26] <Shirakawasuna> *ever
[21:26] <escott> frozen_, that doesnt mean anything. is proc mounted on /proc
[21:26] <The_BROS> IdleOne: yup. But how about this channel?
[21:26] <IdleOne> The_BROS: not at this time.
[21:26] <davis> is there anything I can do to config grub so it will show the boot choice menu? for some reason its blank.
[21:27] <escott> davis, /etc/default/grub (the timeout) then rerun update-grub
[21:27] <davis> escott: I did that.
[21:27] <AlessonZaire> Does anyone here have experience connecting on QQ with pidgin?
[21:28] <davis> escott: in that file, I changed the linux command line to remove quiet and splash
[21:28] <{-_-}> is there any way to install grub2 in ubuntu 10.10?
[21:28] <davis> but this is before loading the kernel, its gthe actuall boot choice screen which is blank.
[21:29] <nunuyabiz> escott here is a paste of the apt-file result. Do I just need to unzip the file, or do I need to run something to
[21:29] <escott> davis, well that makes the kernel log messages and theoretically prevents plymouth (the 5 little red dots)
[21:29] <IdleOne> ubottu: tell The_BROS about register
[21:29] <soreau> ! grub2 | {-_-}
[21:30] <escott> nunuyabiz, you didn't give a link
[21:30] <nunuyabiz> escott http://paste.ubuntu.com/691078/
[21:30] <soreau> IdleOne: Oh cool, I didn't know ubottu responded to that..
[21:30] <AuroraNites21> hi
[21:30] <davis> let me enable a console terminal instead of graphics term. see if that helps. brb
[21:30] <slacknoob> Hello there. I have /dev/sda2 as my /home partition. I want /dev/sda1 to be the new /home, though. Mounting it on /mnt/example and the new one in /mnt/newpart and doing 'cp -rf -p /mnt/example/* /mnt/newpart' should do the job? Because I just did cp -rf and when I booted with the new partition being /home, Ubuntu and other applications complained
[21:31] <astruasdh> please, guys... is it better to use aptitude or apt-get?
[21:31] <IdleOne> astruasdh: which ever you prefer, both work equally well
[21:31] <escott> nunuyabiz, sorry "apt-file search toc2cue" is what you type cdrdao is the answer
[21:31] <ozzloy> i'm trying to PXE boot a lenovo X1.  following this guide: http://www.howtoforge.com/setting-up-a-pxe-install-server-on-ubuntu-9.10-p3 up to the part where i have to restart the dhcp3-server, but there is no dhcp3-server in /etc/init.d/  please help
[21:31] <bsmith093> im trying to convert cbz to pdf, but calibre, is 1) incredibly slow, and 2) somehow manages to scramble the order of the pages
[21:31] <Jordan_U> !separatehome | slacknoob
[21:31] <astruasdh> IdleOne thank you
[21:32] <slacknoob> ty Jordan_U
[21:32] <{-_-}> is there anyway to make grub show what is being loaded instead of just a blank screen?
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> astruasdh: http://superuser.com/questions/198838/apt-get-vs-aptitude#198841
[21:32] <Jordan_U> slacknoob: You're welcome.
[21:32] <urist_> what is the point of having a partition for /home in ubuntu?
[21:32] <escott> urist_, portability. space management
[21:33] <astruasdh> I am familiar with apt-get, but I had the idea that Ubuntu relied mostly on aptitude
[21:33] <nunuyabiz> escott sorry I'm just not familiar with this is cdrdao a repository where I can get toc2cue?
[21:33] <escott> urist_, and upgradeability
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> urist_: easier to backup, fort one thing
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> for*
[21:33] <escott> nunuyabiz, no its the program you install. apt-file search fileneeded; suggests that package /path/to/fileneeded; so sudo apt-get install package
[21:33] <urist_> escott, so if im installing ubuntu on my other machine and i have about 34Gb left after partitioning my swap area, how much should i dedicate to /home and how much to / (root)?
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> urist_: easier to backup and to upgrade
[21:34] <nunuyabiz> escott thanks
[21:34] <urist_> thanks MonkeyDust and escott :)
[21:35] <gebbione> anyone knows a pdf printer for ubuntu?
[21:35] <urist_> MonkeyDust: so if im installing ubuntu on my other machine and i have about 34Gb left after partitioning my swap area, how much should i dedicate to /home and how much to / (root)?
[21:36] <Polah> urist_: You don't need to split up your /home from the main partition, you know
[21:36] <ozzloy> AuroraNites21, ask your question in here so everyone can see it
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> urist_: i'd say root about 10GB, swap about 2GB and the rest for /home
[21:36] <escott> urist_, i would think 10gb is probably enough for /, but the question to ask is how much do i need for /home. if you guess the sizes you have to deal with resizing which is a pain
[21:37] <urist_> i see... since both of you said 10Gb, I'll go with that :) thanks alot guys
[21:37] <escott> urist_, on my system im using 12gb (no music or media files). home is ~3gb var (apt archives) is 2.5 and the rest is /
[21:38] <Jordan_U> {-_-}: What exactly do you see when you boot?
[21:39] <Cyrax5> How can I install open office in ubuntu 11.04?
[21:39] <Cyrax5> I've already got libre office but I prefer open office
[21:40] <Jordan_U> Cyrax5: What do you prefer about Open Office? They're practically identical, especially when you consider that even when Ubuntu shipped something called "
[21:40] <escott> Cyrax5, its not clear that openoffice will continue to be supported (maybe it will be now that there is an apache project), but that why the switch to libre was made. they shouldn't be very different at this time
[21:40] <Jordan_U> Cyrax5: ... Called "Open Office" it was the go-oo fork.
[21:41] <urist_> cool... thanks for the advice escott and MonkeyDust
[21:41] <escott> urist_, i should say that after considering all the benefits of having a separate /home, I don't find any worth the hassle. I just make sure i keep good backups (which you should be doing anyways)
[21:45] <Polah> Would it be possible to execute a for loop to replace all upper case letters with the same lower case letters?
[21:45] <Polah> Without doing each letter individually, that is
[21:46] <macer1> Hi :D
[21:47] <macer1> If I want to join Ubuntu Members, where to begin?
[21:47] <macer1> who to mail?
[21:47] <IdleOne> !membership