[00:00] <sammino> ya i am trying to get a good search result but everything is returning dual boot with windows as first install
[00:00] <DIFH-iceroot> solexious: mailx
[00:00] <danbhfive> flip: so, what have you tried to get it working?
[00:00] <emma> !lol > alexbobp
[00:01] <flip> danbhfive: honestly? dist-upgrade; reboot
[00:01] <Ahmed-Alaa> sammino: you dont need to install any thing if your pc supports dual boot
[00:01] <flip> danbhfive: im totally new to ubuntu --- but a long time linux user; though not on a laptop; im just unframiliar on how to connect
[00:01] <flip> danbhfive: i may have support for all i know? the ubuntu network manager only shows my wired connection
[00:01] <danbhfive> flip: well, it looks like its either madwifi, or ndiswrapper for your wifi card
[00:02] <flip> which SUCKS because the windows driver is really tough to extract
[00:02] <sammino> ahmed, so if i want to dual boot  and install windows after my ubuntu, i assume i resize the drive then change grub and install..  which is the instructions i am looking for :)
[00:02] <danbhfive> flip: since I just tried madwifi on my own card, and it was SUPPOSED to work, but failed, I suggest the windows driver
[00:03] <balz> sammino:  http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm
[00:03] <DIFH-iceroot> is there a way to block some ports if i CANT use iptables (because of vserver)
[00:03] <Ahmed-Alaa> :D
[00:04] <lizzie> Why is ubottu able to be told to send unsolicited private messages to people who are not in the channel?
[00:04] <sammino> thanks
[00:04] <lyk3n> DIFH-iceroot firestarter is a free firewall
[00:04] <danbhfive> lizzie: are you sure its happening?  if so, try your question in #ubuntu-ops maybe
[00:04] <DIFH-iceroot> lyk3n: thank you, i will look at it
[00:05] <flip> danbhfive: you dont think the ipw3945 drive is worth a shot?
[00:05] <lizzie> danbhfive: danbhfive I'm sure it's happening
[00:06] <lizzie> danbhfive: emma just got ubottu to PM alexbobp
[00:06] <lizzie> I'll ask in that channel, thanks
[00:06] <balz> sammino:  np
[00:06] <balz> lyk3n:  firestarter is a frontend for iptables
[00:06] <Finiras> help.. my wireless internet doesn't work anymore while i selected the right protocol and password. it just keeps asking for the password as if its wrong
[00:07] <balz> DIFH-iceroot:  i believe firestarter is a frontend for iptables... so if you can't use iptables, i don't know if firestarter can help
[00:07] <Ahmed-Alaa> ppl my wireless work good without any drivers but i send email to D-link support and get driver for linux the driver name is "madwifi" what i get if i install it ??
[00:07] <slashjamiec> mornin' all :)
[00:08] <Ahmed-Alaa> hi
[00:08] <DIFH-iceroot> balz: ah ok
[00:08] <danbhfive> flip: well, it looks like you still need to get a binary blob.  I don't suggest it simply because I don't quite understand the directions im looking at.  I don't understand these "external" drivers, that aren't in the kernel already, but you can still install them.  Half free, half closed source, all beta?  I say, screw it, ndiswrapper  : )
[00:09] <slashjamiec> Ahmed-Alaa : If it already works then you won't probably need to install the driver, although if you install madwifi, you'll get the following: "http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/madwifi/"
[00:10] <solvanora> is the latest ubuntu hardy?
[00:10] <Neon_> yep
[00:10] <zapato> for now, yes
[00:10] <solvanora> hehe ok
[00:10] <zapato> new releases are out ever 6 months
[00:10] <solvanora> they all get a nickname?
[00:10] <zapato> yeah they do
[00:10] <slashjamiec> I'm always back in the times, lol, I'm on 7.10
[00:10] <SebNaitsabes> solvanora:  yep for now untill some time at the end of October
[00:10] <Neon_> Mhhmm. Intrepid will be awesome. :]
[00:11] <solvanora> is the next with an "I"?
[00:11] <SebNaitsabes> probably not that much differnet from Hardy
[00:11] <zapato> all ubuntu releases are named with the same pattern ie. Gutst Gibbon (GG) Hardy Heron (HH)
[00:11] <zapato> i think that's cool
[00:11] <Neon_> yup, then Intrepid Ibex and Jaunty Jackalope
[00:11] <zapato> and rather clever
[00:11] <SebNaitsabes> zapato:  oh didn't reolize that, makes sense
[00:11] <Finiras> what happens when it reaches ZZ? :P
[00:11] <solvanora> yes its cool "D
[00:11] <slashjamiec> That's awesome, all my computers get a nickname, I use the 7 Deadly Sins nicknames, so this PC would be "superbia"
[00:11] <SebNaitsabes> zapto: what was the first Ubuntu called I don't remember that
[00:12] <Neon_> warty warthog wasn't it?
[00:12] <SebNaitsabes> that's what I thought
[00:12] <SebNaitsabes> so his pattern is wrong
[00:12] <zapato> SebNaitsabes: i cant honestly remember...
[00:12] <Finiras> oh so its not from AA to ZZ
[00:12] <Finiras> ?
[00:12] <Neon_> -googles-
[00:12] <slashjamiec> It's on the tip of my tongue
[00:13] <Neon_> yess, Ubuntu 4.10 (Warty Warthog)
[00:13] <zapato> Warty Warthog
[00:13] <slashjamiec> Excellent
[00:13] <balz> is there a  way to implement on-the-fly compression in an ubuntu filesystem?
[00:13] <Neon_> then breezy badger, dapper drake, edgy eft
[00:13] <Finiras> why does it start at 4.10
[00:13]  * solvanora gives genius_ a great deal (wrapped with a ribbon) of respect for his help
[00:14] <DIFH-iceroot> if i want a domain for my server, do i just need to point the url to my ip-adresse and write the domain in /etc/hosts ?or are there any other steps to do?
[00:14] <SebNaitsabes> Finiras: because they like their weird numbering system
[00:14] <Area_51__> if wanted to make a backup of the way i have this system how would i go about making a install disk that would load everything i have put into this distrobution
[00:14] <narimanmm> is it possible to change seconds of idle time in the Auto Dim future???
[00:14] <bobbyd> hi, it is possible (and safe) to update from 32bit ubuntu hardy to 64 bit on my core2 due machine?
[00:14] <slashjamiec> DIFH-iceroot : You can do it that way providing that your IP address is static
[00:14] <danbhfive> !clone > Area_51__
[00:14] <DIFH-iceroot> slashjamiec: its static
[00:14] <zapato> This is a tech question coming at you guys: I just ripped a fried 330 watt power supply out of a micro tower and I need to put another one in.   Are there any small sized 400 or 500 watts that would fit?
[00:14] <bobbyd> !clone > bobbyd
[00:15] <slashjamiec> DIFH-iceroot : Excellent, just point your domain to your IP address from a nameserver it's hosted at and everything will work flawlessly. Easy!
[00:15] <Area_51__> nah if this thing crashs i just want it back the way i had it without going through everything i already went through
[00:15] <solvanora> 330 can be quite nice, if its a proper brand
[00:15] <zapato> i find 330'
[00:15] <SuperQ> zapato: Most power supplies are far over-speced for machines
[00:15] <DIFH-iceroot> slashjamiec: ok, thanks
[00:15] <zapato> 330's to be far underpowered
[00:16] <Area_51__> ok
[00:16] <hitman1985> hi at all, for a amd 3800+ x2 athlon 64 should i install 64 bit ubuntu or should i run with regular ?
[00:16] <SanityInFlux> over-specing a PSU can put you at a better efficiency
[00:16] <solvanora> i run overclocked core 2 duo (1.6->3.2ghz) and a 8800 GT on a 350 or something
[00:16] <SuperQ> SanityInFlux: not true
[00:16] <`Matir> Can anyone recommend a decent non-linear video editor for linux?  I've looked at kino and cinelerra... but was wondering what others use lately.
[00:16] <DIFH-iceroot> so i will try that postfix can handle 2 domains :)
[00:16] <SanityInFlux> SuperQ: yes, true
[00:16] <ScheissDrogen>  bobbyd: nope. do a fresh install
[00:16] <SuperQ> SanityInFlux: That highly depends on the efficency curve of the switching supply
[00:16] <zapato> Guess I'll just put another 330w in.
[00:16] <bellatlantic> hi
[00:16] <KDB9000> I have a small problem. I can live with it if there is no fix but when something get highlighted (and is the only one) I can't read the text. Anyway to change this?
[00:16] <zapato> I don't feel like worrying about it to much, its for a friend.
[00:16] <ckyle> this isn't ##hardware
[00:16] <SanityInFlux> SuperQ: yes, it does, and most of them run most efficiently when at 50-60% load
[00:16] <bobbyd> ScheissDrogen: ok :( are there generally any problems with 64 bit?
[00:17] <slashjamiec> KDB90000 : I think it could be an issue with your GTK+ theme
[00:17] <solvanora> zapato, you should use a proper brand, as i said
[00:17] <solvanora> i really like Antecs
[00:17] <SanityInFlux> is opengeu discussion valid here?
[00:17] <zapato> 64 bit support for Ubuntu is just that. support actually exists.
[00:17] <narimanmm> change idle time for auto dim anyone???
[00:17] <solvanora> but others may differ ofc
[00:17] <slashjamiec> KDB90000 : If you have recently changed themes when this happened, rollback to the last one and see if that fixes it
[00:17] <KDB9000> slashjamiec, Is there anything I can do to fix it?
[00:17] <cyphase> wow, a lot of proposed updates today..
[00:17] <ScheissDrogen>  bobbyd: its no so far supported as 32, but no prob to use 32apps in 64 install
[00:18] <zapato> solvanora: I'll go with a 330 then. save some money that way anyways
[00:18] <SuperQ> SanityInFlux: true
[00:18] <Area_51__> !automate
[00:18] <ScheissDrogen>  bobbyd: *not
[00:18] <slashjamiec> KDB90000 : Sure, http://ubuntuanswers.wordpress.com/2007/12/23/applying-gtk-themes-in-ubuntu-710/
[00:18] <lizzie> stdin: thanks!
[00:18] <lizzie> !automate > alexbobp
[00:18] <bobbyd> ScheissDrogen: maybe I'll stick with 32 :)
[00:18] <SuperQ> SanityInFlux: I just go poke around on 80plus.org
[00:18] <SanityInFlux> zapato: i'd look for one with a certified 80plus efficiency and be done with it
[00:18] <smm289> ubuntu 8.04 here, why do I not hvae a System > Administration > Shared folders selection
[00:18] <lizzie> stdin: that's not right, he seems to have gotten the PM
[00:18] <solvanora> efficiency is nice, stability is everything
[00:18] <smm289> its all there except for the Shared Folders option
[00:19] <cyphase> smm289: you can share folders from within nautilus
[00:19] <diamantisk> ubundu is the best
[00:19] <ckyle> the best wha?
[00:19] <ScheissDrogen>  bobbyd: if you got enough space on hd, you could try 64 also, is what I'm doing
[00:19] <zapato> sanityinflux: I'm just going to search newegg. 80plus you say? ok, ill keep an eye out for that
[00:19] <ckyle> what?
[00:19] <zapato> thanks everyone
[00:19] <SanityInFlux> solvanora: they go hand in hand most of the time when power supplies are concerned
[00:19] <diamantisk> the best OS for pc
[00:19] <diamantisk> laptop
[00:19] <cyphase> smm289: meaning, it doesn't run the old share-folders utility, and doesn't require admin privleges
[00:19] <diamantisk> etc
[00:19] <SuperQ> zapato: Yes, 80plus.org is a great site for looking for efficient supplies
[00:19] <solvanora> true true
[00:19] <bobbyd> ScheissDrogen: just dual boot?
[00:19] <cyphase> smm289: try it
[00:19] <solvanora> yw zapato
[00:19] <hitman1985> ScheissDrogen, should i run the 64 bit on my 3800+ x2 ? :-)
[00:19] <smm289> try what
[00:19] <zapato> superq: awesome, thanks again
[00:19] <smm289> its not there
[00:19] <zapato> later guys
[00:20] <DIFH-iceroot> can i just make a mirror from a ubuntu repo with wget and can use this repo instead of ubuntu repos? so 10 computers can get updates from lan and not wan
[00:20] <solvanora> bb
[00:20] <cyphase> smm289: right click on a folder
[00:20] <cyphase> smm289: in nautilus
[00:20] <smm289> sorry did not see above folder
[00:20] <ScheissDrogen>  bobbyd: or multiple boot... depending on space (and a will to figure it out)
[00:20] <SuperQ> zapato: It's also worth looking at the actual usage of your system using a kill-a-watt or watts up in-line power meter
[00:20] <slashjamiec> okay, time for coffee and wakeup, I will be unavailable for 10 minutes.
[00:20] <cyphase> smm289: and choose Sharing Options
[00:20] <smm289> ok, i can do the right click nautilus thing, but I think the samba server on that system has taken over the entire sharing process
[00:20] <smm289> the windows share works fine through samba
[00:21] <cyphase> smm289: what do you mean?
[00:21] <SanityInFlux> SuperQ: why?  facts are useless :)  just go with "i o/c therefore I need a 1kw"
[00:21] <SuperQ> zachb: For example, my dual-core AMD (5000+) with 5x SATA drives and a decent (but not insane) nvidia card uses ~120W at idle, and 230W at peak
[00:21] <smm289> but even if i have done the right click share options in Nautilus, my linux laptop still wants to access the share throught smb://
[00:21] <SuperQ> SanityInFlux: Hahaha
[00:21] <ScheissDrogen>  bobbyd,hitman1985: its just my oppinion that 64 is still in the coming, for best reliability I would prefer 32, but 64 gets developed more and more
[00:21] <[Kastor]> hey there :)
[00:21] <cyphase> smm289: access what share? the one on your computer?
[00:21] <SuperQ> I use an older antec 380W PSU
[00:21] <smm289> file server running ubuntu 8.04, samba setup for windows clients, right click share for linux clients
[00:22] <hitman1985> ScheissDrogen, ok, ima stick with 32 later, i just traded my p4 2.8 against a 3800+ :0 haha
[00:22] <smm289> when i use the linux client to access the share I still get the smb:// in the address bar
[00:22] <SanityInFlux> SuperQ: and I see nothing wrong with using a 1kw on an atom
[00:22] <^Phantom^> Question:  how much space should I give ubuntu when I do the partition
[00:22] <[Kastor]> could anyone please direct me to a good CPU OC software for Ubu 8.04, with at least some basic GUI?
[00:22] <SuperQ> SanityInFlux: :)
[00:22] <cyphase> smm289: yea.. because it's using the smb protocol
[00:22] <ScheissDrogen>  bobbyd,hitman1985: it also depends on how much ram u want to use (see windows)
[00:22] <^Phantom^> here's my current hdd status
 Fixed Drives Total:[107GB] Free:[69.4GB] Used:[37.8GB] [64.73% free] <UPP>
[00:22] <zachb> SuperQ: why me?
[00:22] <KDB9000> slashjamiec, I didn't see anything that helped me. I did all that already and checked in there to see if I can change the highlight color or something like that, didn't see anything.
[00:22] <SuperQ> zachb: sorry, miss-directed
[00:22] <zachb> oh, okay :-)
[00:22] <smm289> but with linux to linux sharing shouldn;t it NOT be using the samba protocol, or does it not matter
[00:23] <lyk3n> ScheissDrogen:dude it still didnt work
[00:23] <cyphase> smm289: it doesn't matter
[00:23] <hitman1985> ScheissDrogen, only thing im worried about is that it runs fine :P i dont care about usage too much :)
[00:23] <SuperQ> smm289: You get a bit more speed out of NFS, but it really doesn't matter that much
[00:23] <Area_51__> !cloning
[00:23] <^Phantom^> I was thinking 8 or 12 gigs
[00:23] <^Phantom^> which would be better?
[00:23] <hitman1985> ScheissDrogen, but ok, i ll talk to you later again, when i get the e521 runing and ready to go :) have a good one
[00:23] <SanityInFlux> is nfs4 more reliable than v3 used to be?
[00:24] <smm289> if I don't right click share optins the linux client does not see the share under the network browse, I have to manually type in the address.  So with linux to linux share the right click share option just allows it to show up in the network browse window ?
[00:24] <ScheissDrogen> hitman1985: use 32 then, only (very minimal) differ is at compiling whole kernel I found, see you then
[00:24] <^Phantom^> i will brb
[00:24] <smm289> <-- is new to ubuntu - 2 weeks and counting
[00:24] <[Kastor]> sigh.. guys? anyone? please? :)
[00:25] <solvanora> cpu overclock?
[00:25] <solvanora> why dont you use bios?
[00:25] <[Kastor]> yeah, on 8.04, with a GUI
[00:25] <cyphase> smm289: if it's shared by samba, it should show up. why do you have to manually type it in? is the address you're manually typing an smb address?
[00:25] <StevenX> How come I seem to have a higher resolution in Windows than in Ubuntu? There seems to be more screen real estate in Windows. It's my only real tick about Ubuntu.
[00:25] <[Kastor]> because it's less effective that way on my rig
[00:26] <solvanora> well i cant help you as im brandnew to ubuntu
[00:26] <solvanora> but i think its strange =]
[00:26] <[Kastor]> the same settings are unstable when set in BIOS, stable when set in Windows ClockGen
[00:26] <cyphase> StevenX: is it actually a higher resolution, or does it just seem like it is
[00:26] <solvanora> oh ok
[00:26] <solvanora> but dont trust overclock progs in windows
[00:26] <solvanora> they lie
[00:26] <[Kastor]> yeah, but cpu-z does not :D
[00:26] <solvanora> aye
[00:26] <StevenX> cyphase, I'm doing something at the moment, so I can't actually check the numbers, but if my memory serves me right, it just "seems" like its a higher resolution on Windows.
[00:27] <solvanora> but maybe it adjusts voltages without you knowing?
[00:27] <solvanora> concealing the truth is also lying
[00:27] <cyphase> StevenX: i have noticed this before, and how i fixed it was by changing the DPI settings in Gnome
[00:27] <[Kastor]> and I get 2.87Ghz stable out of my 2.1Ghz X2 4000+ (FSB 270.19), when the same on BIOS is unstable
[00:27] <solvanora> so my consious says when i dont tell a piggy she's fat
[00:27] <moghadam> is it possible to change idle time in the "auto dim LCD" feature
[00:27] <smm289> if I don't have a folder shared through nautilis just through samba, and im on the linux client, when i click network the file server does not show up, but if i type in the samba address the folder is displayed fine.  If I have a nautilus share when I click network the file server is displayed and when I click on the icon for the server all of the shares are displayed, nautilus and samba, now when I click on the Nautilus share the folder
[00:27] <cyphase> StevenX: it's not really a bug, just a different setting
[00:27] <[Kastor]> solvanora, nope it does not
[00:27] <smm289> should I just ignore this and be happy I have connection
[00:27] <[Kastor]> cpu-z would detect that and there's no change
[00:28] <solvanora> strange
[00:28] <[Kastor]> yeah, I know
[00:28] <StevenX> cyphase, thank you. Know that I know what the prolem might be, I can fix it. I'll look up how to change those settings.
[00:28] <cyphase> smm289: the nautilus share dialog is using samba
[00:28] <solvanora> retarded mobo?
[00:28] <solvanora> brand?
[00:28] <cyphase> StevenX: one second
[00:28] <[Kastor]> DFI Infinity :D
[00:28] <solvanora> omg
[00:28] <SanityInFlux> what music players come on the livecd?
[00:28] <cyphase> System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[00:28] <[Kastor]> definitely not a retarded mobo :D
[00:28] <solvanora> nope
[00:29] <cyphase> StevenX: System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[00:29] <smm289> ok, I guess I will just be happy i have share access between windows clients and linux clients, I will just ignore the smb address on the linux client
[00:29] <Finiras> my wireless internet doesn't work anymore while i selected the right protocol and password. it just keeps asking for the password as if its wrong
[00:29] <[Kastor]> I think it hiccups when the settings are set all at once
[00:29] <[Kastor]> it might be rather my RAM giving up
[00:29] <alphaaa> hi
[00:29] <solvanora> RAM can be a bitch
[00:29] <cyphase> smm289: i don't understand what's wrong.. one second..
[00:29] <alphaaa> anyone here receiving the slashdot newsletter ?
[00:29] <cyphase> StevenX: then go to the Font tab
[00:29] <[Kastor]> but when I get them in BIOS, only FSB on defs, and then up the FSB in ClockGen, everything's fine
[00:30] <[Kastor]> hence, I need an OC soft for ubuntu :)
[00:30] <StevenX> cyphase, thanks.
[00:30] <l_mysterioso> slashdot, for years
[00:30] <solvanora> right you are
[00:30] <solvanora> cant help you alas
[00:30] <smm289> nothings really wrong, I was just thought that it was bad for two linux systems to share under samaba, and that samba was just for linux to windows
[00:30] <cyphase> StevenX: then the Details button at the bottom
[00:30] <[Kastor]> and I can't find any :/
[00:30] <ANONYMOU5> Hai guise.
[00:30] <alphaaa> l_mysterioso : i often don't get it. do they skip it sometimes ?
[00:30] <moghadam> 4chan?
[00:30]  * [Kastor] needs CPU overclocking soft for Ubuntu 8.04 - please HALP.
[00:30] <l_mysterioso> @alphaaa it's pretty daily for me
[00:31] <cyphase> StevenX: i set mine to 75
[00:31] <l_mysterioso> @alphaaa might want to check your spam filters
[00:31]  * solvanora plz help dear old [Kastor]
[00:31] <[Kastor]> solvanora, thanks anyway :)
[00:31] <solvanora> ^^
[00:31] <solvanora> im off
[00:31] <solvanora> glg
[00:31] <[Kastor]> cya
[00:31] <[Kastor]> thx
[00:31] <moghadam> no body wants to help me then?
[00:31] <alphaaa> l_mysterioso : i didn't get it most of last week
[00:31] <Finiras> my wireless internet doesn't work anymore while i selected the right protocol and password. it just keeps asking for the password as if its wrong
[00:31] <cyphase> StevenX: also, remember there are 2 panels in ubuntu, as opposed to one in windows. you can change the size of the panels, delete them, etc
[00:32] <smm289> well back to work, thanks for the help. --> LONG LIVE UBUNTU ---> DOWN WITH WINDOWS
[00:32] <cyphase> smm289: i'm about to pm you
[00:32] <solvanora> WINDOWN, UBUNTUP
[00:32] <smm289> ok
[00:33] <Finiras> windows is ok as long as ubuntu has so many bugs
[00:33] <solvanora> i really hope, M$ made a capital mistake with launching vista and make it extremely expensive once again
[00:33] <solvanora> finiras, XP is ok
[00:33] <moghadam> agree wth Finiras
[00:33] <solvanora> but Vista is buggy as well
[00:33] <l_mysterioso> @alphaaa i just took a look at my email and i have all of them.
[00:34] <TrailWhisperer> Anyone know how to disable cube caps in compiz (so that they're not there, not just disable with a blank solid face). Used to have a plugin for cube caps, in the latest compize, I'm clueless.
[00:34] <slashjamiec> KBD90000 : Sorry, I'm unsure as to why to help
[00:34] <slashjamiec> KBD0000 : Sorry, *how to help*
[00:34] <l_mysterioso> TrailWhisperer are you using Hardy?
[00:35] <K^Holtz> ive got a 2 gb flash drive but only 120MB of it is being recognized. even if i use parted or format the drive in windows.... any idea how i can get all 2 gigs back? i think it was corrupted by putting a program on it
[00:35] <K^Holtz> i dont care about the data on it
[00:35] <slashjamiec> k^Holtz : Format it?
[00:36] <K^Holtz> i tried to format it in windows slashjamiec ... it still only formateed 120MB
[00:37] <pepperjack> K^Holtz try deleting and recreating the partition maybe in ubuntu.
[00:37] <slashjamiec> pepperjack +1
[00:37] <pepperjack> K^Holtz somebody stole your megabytes
[00:37] <danbhfive> K^Holtz: maybe its just broken
[00:37] <K^Holtz> pepperjack: in red hat using parted i deleted the partitions and made a new one, but it kept failing to format saying i was trying to build beyond the size of the disk
[00:37] <slashjamiec> oh noes! but THATS my megabytes >.<
[00:38] <K^Holtz> danbhfive: its 3 different drives that this happened to
[00:38] <slashjamiec> K^Holtz: Seems like some broken sectors (if USB has sectors) or something hardware based.
[00:38] <slashjamiec> K^Holtz: You sure there isn't assigned partitions? Or have you used it for an OS recently?
[00:38] <K^Holtz> so is there an easy way to just completely wipe it clean and regain any corrupted 'sectors'?
[00:39] <nonewmsgs> !gyache
[00:39] <nonewmsgs> !gyach
[00:39] <K^Holtz> if u could just tell me a utility to use, and what command to type, that would be awesome
[00:39] <nonewmsgs> is Gyache no longer in the repositories?
[00:40] <spiritssight> Does any one know of a VERY good HTML editor or design tool so I can create screen layouts of a webpage
[00:41] <slashjamiec> K^Holtz: Have you EVER seen 2GB of space on that USB?
[00:41] <K^Holtz> slashjamiec: yes, and it says 2g on the drive
[00:41] <slashjamiec> ok
[00:41] <frenchy> does anyone else experience slower copy speed in ubuntu than other distros
[00:42] <K^Holtz>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[00:42] <K^Holtz> /dev/sdc1               1         980      125424    b  W95 FAT32
[00:42] <K^Holtz> theres the drive in fdisk -l
[00:42] <slashjamiec> spiritssight : kompozer?
[00:42] <pepperjack> frenchy you can check hdparm or sdparm to see what your settings are
[00:42] <danbhfive> K^Holtz: why not just use fdisk?
[00:43] <K^Holtz> danbhfive: what command do i type to wipe it clean and reformat in fat32?
[00:43] <Cynic> tell me
[00:43] <pepperjack> frenchy example: http://www.linuxweblog.com/hdparm
[00:44] <frenchy> pepperjack dont know why anything would be different in ubuntu - im copying my music from my ext HD and i get about 13MB/s and yesterday i was doing the same in sabayon and got about 23Mb/s
[00:44] <AlNahar> im getting an "input not supported" error after booting to newly installed ubuntu?
[00:44] <slashjamiec> Alnahar: Hardware.
[00:44] <AlNahar> what do i do?
[00:44] <K^Holtz> heres proof that its 2 gigs...
[00:44] <K^Holtz> Disk /dev/sdc: 1994 MB,<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes
[00:44] <K^Holtz> 8 heads, 32 sectors/track, 15214 cylinders
[00:44] <K^Holtz> Units = cylinders of 256 * 512 = 131072 bytes
[00:44] <K^Holtz> Disk identifier: 0x00000000
[00:44] <FloodBot1> K^Holtz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:45] <K^Holtz> lil too much :/
[00:45] <amit> K^Holtz: mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/device ?
[00:45] <slashjamiec> alNahar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=457519
[00:45] <danbhfive> K^Holtz: try parted
[00:45] <amit> don't run that unless you're sure you want to nuke the device contents
[00:45] <pepperjack> K^Holtz its just lazy cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sdc until it cleans up its act
[00:46] <K^Holtz> amit im sure
[00:46] <amit> and don't mistype the device name :P
[00:46] <slashjamiec> amit: LOL
[00:46] <K^Holtz> ok, i typed it amit... lets see
[00:47] <Elektro_Boy> exit
[00:47] <l_mysterioso> Elektro_Boy: wrong window?
[00:47] <K^Holtz> nope, still only recognizes 128MB
[00:48] <slashjamiec> balls.
[00:48] <K^Holtz> slashjamiec: thats what i said
[00:48] <slashjamiec> K_Holtz: lol
[00:48] <amit> is this some kind of flash card?
[00:48] <K^Holtz> pepperjack: what was that cat thing u were talking about?
[00:49] <ph0rensic> !flash
[00:49] <K^Holtz> amit, its a usb flash memory disk
[00:49] <K^Holtz> drive.. not disk
[00:49] <amit> okay, I just read the backlog
[00:49] <amit> I've had that happen to me before with a microsd card actually
[00:49] <K^Holtz> this happened two 3 different drives
[00:49] <slashjamiec> K^Holtz: This is v. weird.
[00:50] <danbhfive> K^Holtz: what are you using this for?
[00:50] <K^Holtz> danbhfive: i just want to reclaim the drive so i can use it for file transport between systems...
[00:50] <K^Holtz> someone i work with loaded something on it that claimed almost all of one 2 gig drive and two 1 gig drives
[00:51] <Imaginativeone> what's a good PVP for linux?
[00:51] <amit> K^Holtz: did you repartition it?
[00:51] <slashjamiec> Imaginativeone : You mean, PVP game, or P2P network client?
[00:51] <ScheissDrogen> whats wrong if ff can do internet but terminal (apt) can't ? if I boot to terminal, it also works with apt
[00:51] <mib_lhfac4> hello
[00:51] <amit> the fdisk you pasted shows the first partition is only 128MB
[00:51] <amit> consistent with what you're seeing
[00:51] <K^Holtz> amit, i used parted to delete all the partitions...
[00:51] <Imaginativeone> Portable Video Player
[00:51] <slashjamiec> !hi | mib_lhfac4
[00:51] <mib_lhfac4> someone know the correct alternative of "update-manager -d" for kubuntu?
[00:52] <nonewmsgs> if i find a deb that was "designed for gutsy", will it work in hardy?
[00:52] <amit> K^Holtz: what did you type to create the new partition?
[00:52] <mib_lhfac4> Someone know the correct alternative of "update-manager -d" for kubuntu?
[00:52] <K^Holtz> amit: but when i tried to use parted to make a 2 gig partition, it kept telling me i was using too much space
[00:52] <slashjamiec> nonewmsgs : It should, you might just need to grab a dependency or two
 can you ping from the terminal, is it just apt that won't connect?
[00:53] <slashjamiec> mib_lhfac4: Please only state your problem once every 10 minutes, or try on the ubuntu forums, Someone who knows a correct answer will be with you shortly.
[00:53] <ScheissDrogen>  l_mysterioso: can't ping
[00:53] <amit> K^Holtz: when you run parted /dev/sdc, and type p at the prompt, what does it say after "Disk /dev/sdc:"
[00:53] <K^Holtz> i hope this isnt too long.. but here is the output of a parted print all for sdc1
[00:53] <l_mysterioso> ScheissDrogen: but you can browse with FF?
[00:54] <K^Holtz> Disk /dev/sdc: 1994MB
[00:54] <K^Holtz> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
[00:54] <K^Holtz> Partition Table: msdos
[00:54] <K^Holtz> Number  Start   End    Size   Type     File system  Flags
[00:54] <K^Holtz>  1      16.4kB  128MB  128MB  primary  fat32
[00:54] <FloodBot1> K^Holtz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:54] <amit> uhh
[00:54] <amit> K^Holtz: delete the partition, and make one that's 1994MB
[00:54] <K^Holtz> pretty weird huh?
[00:54] <slashjamiec> K^Holtz: That really sucks. Something you DONT want to see on a 2gb drive.
[00:54] <ScheissDrogen>  l_mysterioso: yes, its very strange, also opera and pidgin don't work
[00:54] <amit> 2GB will be too big for it
[00:54] <amit> since that translates to 2048MB, and your drive is slightly smaller
[00:55] <slashjamiec> try 1999MB
[00:55] <amit> parted is annoying in that it won't let you just hit enter for the default of the partition taking all remaining space
[00:55] <K^Holtz> rm 1 does nothing.. says the partition doesnt exist
[00:55] <amit> so you have to type in the end size by hand
[00:55] <RickZilla> Ok, downloading ubuntu for the first time, going to try it out on an old 486 machine I grabbed from my parents when they got a new computer a few months ago
[00:56] <slashjamiec> RickZilla: Excellent, is there an issue?
[00:56] <nonewmsgs> rickzilla not to be an ass but are you going to want a gui?
[00:56] <RickZilla> slashjamiec:  None that I know of, except that it's currently running win98 :-)
[00:56] <K^Holtz> amit oh, its saying /dev/sdc is 1994 MB but its saying /dev/sdc1 is 128
[00:57] <MarcC> how can I stop Ubuntu from logging me off when I lock the screen? It happens sometimes.
[00:57] <RickZilla> nonewmsgs:  Nope, you're not being an ass...what's a gui?  (sorry, total linux newb here)
[00:57] <slashjamiec> RickZilla: Cancel the download, and try download "Puppy Linux" or a smaller distribution because Ubuntu won't bootup natively in a gui with those system specs within 7 days.
[00:57] <nonewmsgs> RickZilla, a 486 will probably be too old.  a gui is that nice thing with an arrow instead of just typing things (like dos)
[00:58] <RickZilla> oh...graphic user interface
[00:58] <amit> K^Holtz: what about typing "resize 1 16.4kB 1994MB"
[00:58] <l_mysterioso> RickZilla: G.raphical U.ser I.nterface
[00:58] <RickZilla> within 7 days?  not sure whta you mean
[00:58] <slashjamiec> nonewmsgs: I have 512MB of RAM and I'm running fluxbox with a ripped-to-nothing version of ubuntu and I still get graphical lag. Oh, even with a 256MB video card!
[00:58] <RickZilla> so a 486 is too slow for full ubuntu?
[00:58] <slashjamiec> RickZilla: Ubuntu will take days to load on a 486.
[00:59] <K^Holtz> (parted) resize 1 16.4kB 1994MB
[00:59] <K^Holtz> No Implementation: GNU Parted cannot resize this partition to this size.  We're
[00:59] <K^Holtz> working on it!
[00:59] <amit> hmmmm
[00:59] <RickZilla> really...didn't know that
[00:59] <grobda24> RickZilla, check the requirements on the Ubuntu site.
[00:59] <slashjamiec> RickZilla: Try "DamnSmallLinux", or also try "PuppyLinux" ... They're both fine desktop OS's for new users.
[00:59] <nonewmsgs> RickZilla, try damn small linux.  but if i recall correctly the minimum stats for even that are 133mhz
[00:59] <RickZilla> This has at least that, I'm pretty sure
[00:59] <amit> K^Holtz: oh, that's because it wants to resize the fat32 fs
[00:59] <RickZilla> 256, actually
[00:59] <amit> and it doesn't know how
[01:00] <amit> so "rm 1" does nothing?
[01:00] <RickZilla> I"ll try it....thanks for you info and saving me some grief down the road
[01:00] <slashjamiec> RickZilla: I still don't recommend it. Seriously :P
[01:00] <Codiah> Anyone willing to help a new guy out with a question or two?
[01:00] <RickZilla> slashjamiec:  Your help is much appreciated
[01:00] <slashjamiec> RickZilla: No problems, if you decide to go back to ubuntu, you know where we are!
[01:00] <K^Holtz> amit: ok, it might have worked that time
[01:00] <amit> K^Holtz: and when you do p afterwards, 1 still shows up?
[01:00] <BiteMeBill> amit, if you do rm --help or man rm you can see what does what.
[01:00] <AlNahar> slashjamiec: can i get around that error?
[01:01] <nonewmsgs> slashjamiec, how fast is your processor?
[01:01] <slashjamiec> AlNahar: I'm not sure, disabling the troubled device if you're not using it might work
[01:01] <amit> BiteMeBill: i'm pretty sure the syntax within parted is "help rm"
[01:01] <AlNahar> slashjamiec: nothing else is plugged in and it still happens
[01:01] <slashjamiec> nonewmsgs: Uhh. 2.03GHZ last time I checked
[01:01] <K^Holtz> amit: here is the output of print now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/45557/
[01:01] <slashjamiec> AlNahar: hmmm
[01:02] <Qster> why hasnt ubuntu made an easier way to add monitor graphics display modes i still havent figured out how to get 120hz even tho my monitor supports it. got it to 100hz
[01:02] <slashjamiec> AlNahar: You're running an LCD monitor, aren't you? :P
[01:03] <l_mysterioso> Codiah: of course
[01:03] <AlNahar> yes
[01:03] <amit> uhh
[01:03] <amit> K^Holtz: have you tried another program like cfdisk?
[01:04] <soundray> Qster: are you aware that 100Hz is much more ergonomic than 120Hz?
[01:04] <AlNahar> slashjamiec: yes, an lcd monitor
[01:04] <slashjamiec> AlNahar: It's to do with that. You'll need to edit your xorg.conf file to go with your LCD's "horiz sync" and "vert refresh", X is loading something that isn't supported. I can't help you on this matter because I don't know these functions for your monitor, refer to your manual.
[01:04] <Codiah> ok, well i'm extreemly interested in ubuntu, at themoment running windows vista on a notebook pc i just bought, but i hate vista with a passion, at least i have come to... question is, if i remove vista and install ubuntu will everything work fine, such as my wireless and touchpad mouse
[01:05] <AlNahar> cant i just remove the horiz sync and vert lines?
[01:05] <K^Holtz> amit: is this what i would type to make it a 1994 mb drive partition? (parted) mkpartfs primary fat32 0 1994
[01:05] <slashjamiec> Codiah: Yes.
[01:05] <Codiah> wireless as in internet card if that was confusing
[01:05] <helpme> what command in linux is equivalent to ipconfig in windows?
[01:05] <BiteMeBill> Codiah what make and model notebook do you have?
[01:05] <slashjamiec> Codiah: I'm not too sure about "everything" working seamlessly, but a driver here and there needed to be installed doesn't hurt anybody
[01:05] <l_mysterioso> Codiah: that all depends on your hardware but the most likely answer is yes.
[01:05] <soundray> helpme: ifconfig (roughly)
[01:05] <amit> K^Holtz: put MB after the numbers
[01:05] <amit> i'm not sure what unit it assumes if you don't put one
[01:05] <Codiah> HP compaq presario f700
[01:05] <l_mysterioso> Codiah: you can try the live disk and see how it works out.
[01:06] <helpme> it says bash: ipconfig: command not found
[01:06] <soundray> helpme: read carefully
[01:06] <Codiah> what does the live disk do?
[01:06] <amit> so mkpartfs primary fat32 0MB 1994MB
[01:06] <grobda24> slashjamiec, why does this page https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/hardware-supported.html say 486 is supported ? Confused :/
[01:06] <K^Holtz> amit: oh man, i think it might have worked...
[01:06] <BiteMeBill> Codiah, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=656756
[01:07] <BiteMeBill> helpme, it is ifconfig not ipconfig
[01:07] <slashjamiec> grobda24: I didn't say it wasn't, I said it would be a pain trying to run Ubuntu on a 486 and I personally wouldn't, but it's up to you to take the plunge and try and run a GUI on a 233mhz
[01:07] <AlNahar> slashjamiec: can't i comment out thoselines?
[01:07] <slashjamiec> AlNahar: Oh, oh, god no
[01:07] <grobda24> slashjamiec, so it does it really take days to load ?
[01:07] <MarcC> how can I get ubuntu to tell me what network card I have?
[01:07] <AlNahar> slashjamiec: i've done that in fedora before and it just did some defaults
[01:08] <AlNahar> like right now, in my xorg.conf in fedora, i have this
[01:08] <slashjamiec> AlNahar: Oh yeah, try reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202934
[01:08] <soundray> MarcC: lspci
[01:08] <AlNahar>     HorizSync       30.0 - 110.0
[01:08] <AlNahar> #    VertRefresh     50.0 - 150.0
[01:08] <slashjamiec> grobda24: Not days per-se, but some time, yes.
[01:08] <Codiah> oh, thanks allot. have a good one..
[01:08] <ripper> are there any libs that i need to convert micrsoft office to openoffice corectly some thing are a miss and text is off
[01:08] <AlNahar> slashjamiec: so ubuntu wont work if you comment out those lines?
[01:09] <ripper> works but not perfect text is overlapping
[01:09] <slashjamiec> grobda24: I tried booting ubuntu off a livecd on a 533mhz PC, it took around 30 minutes to get to the desktop.
[01:09] <grobda24> slashjamiec, hmmm, I'm not sure I agree with your approach, if they were running win98 on it. gnome with all the extras turned off should be ok. But no matter.
[01:09] <ripper> any help
[01:09] <soundray> ripper: conversion just isn't perfect
[01:09] <slashjamiec> AlNahar: I'm unsure, read that forum post.
[01:09] <grobda24> slashjamiec, 30 mins is not days !
[01:09] <AlNahar> slashjamiec: i ask because it works for me in another distro when i just comment it out
[01:09] <soundray> ripper: you could check if zamzar does a better job (online file conversion)
[01:09] <ripper> soundray: that what i thought thanx man
[01:10] <slashjamiec> grobda24: Well, you try using gnome on a 233mhz PC :P
[01:10] <grobda24> slashjamiec, yeah your recommended distros may be faster of course.
[01:10] <ripper> soundray: are you here all day man.... lol thanx for the help all day though i greatly appreciate it
[01:10] <BiteMeBill> you can try to comment out the refresh rates in your xorg file just might have to change them in console.
[01:10] <grobda24> slashjamiec, I might have to but an old 486 just to try this :P
[01:11] <grobda24> but = buy
[01:11] <slashjamiec> AlNahar: I'd imagine it isn't required, I'm sure that it would just go back to defaults, yeah. I'm sure those functions in xorg.conf are only used as parameters for custom bootup. Ubuntu installer can do stuff like this sometimes. :P
[01:11] <soundray> !info smartmontools > tabakhase_
[01:12] <slashjamiec> grobda24: Lol, you'll need to read the requirements on running a LiveCD of ubuntu on the ubuntu website. You need 256MB of ram I'd imagine.
[01:12] <AlNahar> slashjamiec: when you are prompted with "input not supported" should i be able to do something to get out of it?
[01:12] <slashjamiec> AlNahar: Restart X maybe? Or revert to a terminal and edit xorg.conf (restarting X is simply ctrl+alt+backspace)
[01:13] <K^Holtz> amit: confirmed.. it all works!!! thanks a lot for your help
[01:13] <grobda24> slashjamiec, seems important seeing that Ubuntu is aimed at low resource users ?
[01:13] <ilovefedora> hi im runing ubuntu server 6.06 and cant get apache to start
[01:13] <slashjamiec> grobda24: Not as low as a 486 for livecd, unfortunately. Maybe if you installed it instead of livecd and then went to fluxbox, then everything would work seamlessly.
[01:14] <slashjamiec> grobda24: Fluxbox is a lightweight window manager, sorry
[01:15] <grobda24> slashjamiec, who mentioned any livecd's ? I see your point though.
[01:15] <sanassar> Hey guys
[01:15] <templaedhel> can someone help me get my 2wire dongle set up?
[01:15] <slashjamiec> grobda24: I'm assuming since you're a new user you'd automatically use the livecd. Sorry.
[01:16] <sanassar> I was able to make a portable version of firefox,thunderbird,seamonkey,and instantbird.
[01:16] <slashjamiec> templaedhel: Yup! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=707972
[01:16] <djhash> templaedhel: you need to be more specific and provide more details..
[01:16] <grobda24> slashjamiec, s'ok.
[01:16] <slashjamiec> templaedhel: Please follow the link I pasted and follow it accordingly.
[01:16] <slashjamiec> grobda24: ok
[01:17] <templaedhel> slashjamiec: okay
[01:17] <J-a-k-e> Hi all, does anyone know if it's possible to setup a high pass filter & lfe crossover in pulseaudio?
[01:17] <soundray> grobda24: Ubuntu isn't aimed at low-resource users. Not sure where you got that from.
[01:17] <slashjamiec> soundary +1
[01:17] <decker> holas!!
[01:17] <decker> nassss
[01:18] <slashjamiec> decker: English?
[01:18] <decker> not, i'm spaniard
[01:18] <djhash> !sp
[01:18] <djhash> !spanish
[01:18] <decker> thanks!
[01:19] <sanassar> Anyone want to make a portable version of firefox,thunderbird,seamonkey,or instantbird for linux?
[01:19] <cosmodad> isn't there some mobile edition of firefox going on already?
[01:20] <cosmodad> by the mozilla guys...
[01:20] <slashjamiec> yeah im sure there is
[01:20] <Flare183> cosmodad: yeah
[01:20] <grobda24> slashjamiec, I read something about Ubuntu for developing countries somewhere.
[01:20] <Flare183> cosmodad: you mean like for a flash drive?
[01:20] <macGerhard> hi. I just got a clean 7.04 server install, can't seem to find the sources file... shouldn't it be in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[01:20] <sanassar> It is only one script to setup the portable editio
[01:20] <cosmodad> Flare183: no idea, I just read a headline about some mobile copy of FF the other day.
[01:20] <Flare183> macGerhard: yeap
[01:20] <sanassar> *editition*
[01:21] <macGerhard> Flare183: ok, but that file doesn't exist
[01:21] <Flare183> cosmodad: well goto portableapps.com to find out about portable FF
[01:21] <Flare183> macGerhard: I have no idea what to tell you there, keep asking.
[01:21] <macGerhard> Flare183: there is only /etc/apt/sources.list.d which doesn't contain the actual sources...
[01:21] <macGerhard> k
[01:21] <cosmodad> Flare183: cool link, thanks.
[01:22] <slashjamiec> grobda24: Ubuntu develops everywhere. The name derives from an african word.
[01:22] <Flare183> np
[01:22] <K^Holtz> I just renamed these songs (.ogg) in ubuntu, but when i play them, they still dont recognize a artist, album, or title... is there a program (id3 editer) that will ensure this data is associated w/ every song?
[01:22] <Flare183> umm
[01:22] <mib_lhfac4> Someone know the correct alternative of "update-manager -d" for kubuntu?
[01:22] <djhash> macGerhard: what do you get when you type "apt-get update"
[01:22] <AlNahar> slashjamiec: where is xorg.conf on ubuntu?
[01:23] <macGerhard> djhash: Reading package lists... Done
[01:23] <slashjamiec> AlNahar: /etc/xorg.conf
[01:23] <SuperQ> AlNahar: /etc/X11/xorg.conf, not needed for many configurations in 8.04
[01:23] <AlNahar> SuperQ: well, i'm getting an error due to using an lcd, so im not sure what else to do
[01:23] <slashjamiec> SuperQ : He's having issues with vsync on his monitor.
[01:23] <Codiah> hey, back, quick question, is the live cd the same as the regular install cd??
[01:23] <templaedhel> slashjamiec: the driver files are just text docs. should I "save link as" instead? and where do I put them?
[01:23] <SuperQ> slashjamiec: ahh
[01:23] <grobda24> slashjamiec, well, anyway, we're down to semantics really. I can't find where I read about Ubuntu (the distro) in developing countries now. Interesting discussion. Laters.
[01:23] <SebNaitsabes> Codiah:  the Live CD has the installer on it yes
[01:23] <cosmodad> K^Holtz: not quite sure what you mean and did, but there are apps like easytag which can help you with tagging music files.
[01:24] <Codiah> k thanks again....
[01:24] <Codiah> ciao..
[01:24] <slashjamiec> grobda24: Right. I'm here for Ubuntu Support, not about story telling philosophy's, sorry
[01:24] <djhash> macGerhard: dunno what to tell you.. something prob. went wrong in the install and sources.list didnt get placed properly..
[01:25] <macGerhard> djhash: yep, the web host seems to have screwed the install. couldn't install 8.04, now this. hmmm..
[01:25] <K^Holtz> cosmodad: thanks, ill try that
[01:25] <djhash> macGerhard: how come 8.04 didn't install?
[01:26] <slashjamiec> templaedhel: I want you to go to terminal and type "wget linkhere" where linkhere is the driver link
[01:26] <macGerhard> djhash: incorrect image. have to upgrade all the way from 7.04...
[01:26] <slashjamiec> templaedhel: It tells you all this in the tutorial, read carefully :P
[01:26] <macGerhard> some issues with the 8.04 they had. too "cutting edge" I suppose :D
[01:26] <djhash> macGerhard: can't you get the 8.04 CD image and install it?
[01:26] <mib_lhfac4> Someone know the correct alternative of "update-manager -d" for kubuntu?
[01:27] <templaedhel> slashjamiec: okay
[01:28] <macGerhard> djhash: not in the DC & no access to images. I know it's not ideal upgrading, but my choices is stay with 7.04 or upgrade.
[01:30] <slashjamiec> I love this Fluxbox Theme. Hell yeah I do.
[01:30] <[1]Tony> Is there anyone that could recommend a good Wifi manager that doesn't recquire a whole lot of dependancies for Haron?
[01:30] <[1]Tony> *heron
[01:31] <earthbound01> I'm installing Ubuntu (Hardy Heron) and it's reading my 80gb hdd as  a 40 gb hdd.  Please Help.
[01:32] <Bagualas> is there any way to see shared folders (samba) created by the gnome? like a list or something
[01:32] <_Zeus_> earthbound01: did you use dd?
[01:32] <_Zeus_> !smbfs | Bagualas
[01:32] <_Zeus_> !samba | Bagualas
[01:32] <earthbound01> I'm sorry, I don't know what dd is.  I'm something of a newb.
[01:32] <dr_willis> _Zeus_,  dont forget the fusesmb wiki page. :)
[01:33] <dr_willis> !dd
[01:33] <Bagualas> _Zeus_, is mention there about my question? i know how smb.conf works... I mean in my question about the graphical from gnome
[01:33] <earthbound01> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix) ?
[01:33] <djhash> earthbound01: do you have anything installed in the hard drive?
[01:34] <dr_willis> earthbound01,  dd is a 'data dump' command - with the right ussage - it can do all sorts of usefull things.
[01:34] <_Zeus_> Bagualas: install that first
[01:34] <_Zeus_> then you shoud be able to connect to samba shares
[01:34] <earthbound01> djhash- it had windows a long time ago, and it has an installation of Hardy Heron on it now.
[01:34] <Bagualas> _Zeus_, I already have samba installed, working man
[01:35] <tabakhase___> grr
[01:35] <tabakhase___> lol, smart prints: "Drive failure expected in less than 24 hours. SAVE ALL DATA!"
[01:35] <tabakhase___> Power on: 1889207 hours xD
[01:35] <Bagualas> just, I made some shares
[01:35] <Bagualas> and want to list then
[01:35] <_Zeus_> Bagualas: i don't know how to list them
[01:35] <templaedhel> slashjamiec: hey I just used the graphical drive install that came with ndiswrapper. worked like a charm
[01:35] <djhash> earthbound01: are you sure you are looking at the entire drive and not just the partition
[01:35] <templaedhel> thanks
[01:35] <Bagualas> made some shares, by clicking with right button, Share!
[01:35] <dr_willis> the smbclient command i belive can scan/list seen shares..
[01:35] <helpme> I have a question... okay I bought this shuttle PC, and it came with foresight linux... how would I go at installing UBUNTU on here?  this PC DOES NOT have a CD ROM drive, so CAN I install it with a USB hard drive or flash drive or w/e??? pls help
[01:35] <LBIguy> how do i get compiz setup?
[01:35] <_Zeus_> !compiz | LBIguy
[01:35] <earthbound01> I'll put up a screenshot of my problem.
[01:36] <dr_willis> helpme,  check the alternative methods of installing.. Yes you can do it..
[01:36] <djhash> !usb
[01:36] <dr_willis> !install | helpme
[01:36] <slashjamiec> templaedhel: Excellent
[01:36] <slashjamiec> brb phone
[01:36] <helpme> thanks!, also is ubuntu going to be easier to use than a lot of linuxs? im completly new to linux and just want a postgresql server set up :o
[01:37] <michaesaur> how can i tell what a package is being depended on?
[01:37] <SebNaitsabes> yes  Ubuntu is a lot easier to use than many others
[01:37] <djhash> helpme: yes..
[01:37] <SebNaitsabes> the terminal should tell you or you can use the package manager to help with that
[01:37] <michaesaur> djhash: how can i tell what a package is being depended on?
[01:37] <djhash> michaesaur: in synaptic you can get that information
[01:37] <AlNahar> slashjamiec: i am trying to help someone with this problem, they said ls -la /etc/X11/xorg.conf says no such file
[01:37] <michaesaur> okay.
[01:38] <LBIguy> when i go into kmenu settings i dont see desktop effects
[01:39] <dr_willis> helpme,  ubuntu is very easy and focused on useability.  of course you wull proberly have to do some reading on using postgresql thats a bit advanced.
[01:40] <kailiey> I had to patch a kernel.  I followed the instructions from !kernel.  The problem is, once I install it.. everything works great.. EXCEPT... the aptitude upgrade ALWAYS wants to reinstall the kernel*header's... even tho they're the same
[01:40] <earthbound01> I actually can't do a screenshot because I can't use my hard drive right now.
[01:40] <jStefan> I need help getting 5.1 sound, speaker-test seems to work, but when i play a 5.1 source it is down mixed to stereo (but sent to all speakers)
[01:40] <hdz> anyone know of a semi-fun game for ubuntu for d/l through apt or another source that would be worth playing, just for sh*ts n giggles after installing that nvidia driver
[01:41] <mkquist> hey all, anyone have luck getting canon scanners to work in ubuntu?
[01:41] <hdz> heh i had prob w/scanner
[01:41] <groppo> t
[01:41] <cosmodad> kailiey: you sure that kernel Ubuntu seeks to upgrade to isn't of a higher version (maybe just in the late part after the dash)?
[01:41] <hdz> had to make avahi start later
[01:41] <mypup> need help finding file location for conkyrc please
[01:41] <x2o> hi, how can i over or underclock my cpu in my notebook, yes i know about the risks
[01:42] <hdz> sudo updatedb; sudo locate conky
[01:42] <mypup> thanks
[01:42] <earthbound01> but- /dev/sda
[01:42] <earthbound01> free space 38321 MB   (*note, not 80gb)
[01:42] <earthbound01> /dev/sda swap  1686 used 0mb
[01:42] <djhash> earthbound01: type "sudo fdisk -l" and use pastebin to give me the output
[01:42] <kailiey> it keeps wanting to install : linux-headers-2.6.24-19-generic linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic
[01:42] <kailiey> and I'm running: Linux smb 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Wed Sep 10 18:13:41 MDT 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:42] <SaraSmith> what's the name of the file you update to change your graphic settings?
[01:42] <cosmodad> kailiey: you used the same name?
[01:42] <hdz> theres a bunch of em
[01:43] <hdz> xorg.conf is a big one
[01:43] <kailiey> Oh I guess I should have named the kernel?  I just cut/pasted what it said to build a generic kernel
[01:43] <SaraSmith> hdz hmm yes..
[01:43] <djhash> earthbound01: that is how much free space is on that disk.. and since you have both windows and ubuntu installed on it.. you'll definately not have an empty drive..
[01:43] <hdz> for what type of grx settings sara
[01:43] <jStefan> I need help getting 5.1 sound, speaker-test plays each speaker individually, but when i play a 5.1 source it is down mixed to stereo and then sent to all speakers
[01:43] <earthbound01> I typed  sudo fdisk/dev/sda
[01:43] <earthbound01> and it said:
[01:43] <earthbound01> The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 4864.
[01:43] <earthbound01> There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
[01:43] <earthbound01> and could in certain setups cause problems with:
[01:43] <earthbound01> 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
[01:43] <FloodBot1> earthbound01: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:43] <cosmodad> kailiey: I don't know the instructions say, but I used to label my custom kernels differently to stay unambiguous
[01:44] <kailiey> k thank you
[01:44] <kailiey> i will try that
[01:44] <peller> n00b question: why doesn't the install fit on a CD, and how am I supposed to work around that?
[01:44] <djhash> earthbound01: use pastebin
[01:44] <djhash> !pastebin
[01:44] <hdz> anyone know the dirs i can remove saftely from updating 4 kernels so far, files downloading from regular previous kernels etc
[01:44] <hdz> Linux turtle 2.6.24-21-generic #1 SMP Mon Aug 25 17:32:09 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:44] <cosmodad> kailiey: not though that once -20 comes out, Ubuntu will go for the upgrade again. Pin your custom kernel if you don't want that to happen and be aware that you don't catch security updates that way.
[01:44] <jStefan> peller, is it a 700mb cd or 650mb?
[01:45] <cosmodad> kailiey: note though
[01:45] <hdz> how am i SMP with p4?
[01:45] <SaraSmith> hdz i feel like an idiot.. my husband is still having problems with graphics.. in fact it won't load at all.. so if i can go back where we were maybe i messed it up??
[01:45] <peller> jStefan: I only have 650mb.  There are 700mb?
[01:45] <hdz> sara what card does he have
[01:45] <jStefan> peller, yes 700mb exists, and i think it's needed for the ubuntu iso
[01:45] <kailiey> ya?
[01:45] <hdz> actually do /exec -o lspci |grep nvidia -i
[01:45] <earthbound01> pastebin url: http://paste.ubuntu.com/45570/
[01:45] <hdz> in irc
[01:45] <dr_willis> peller,  i havent seen a  650mb cd here in the stores in ages...
[01:46] <cosmodad> kailiey: just corrected a typo
[01:46] <^Phantom^> Okay... I'm on the live ubuntu cd
[01:46] <jStefan> hdz, intel's HT uses SMP
[01:46] <hdz> hyperthread jstefan?
[01:46] <jStefan> hdz, yes
[01:46] <peller> dr_willis, jStefan: wow, hard to believe nobody else ran into this. ok, any way for me to get around this problem w/o waiting and buying new CDs tomorrow?  I tried memory stick, but the instructions got me nowhere fast.
[01:47] <SaraSmith> htz it's a GA-MA69GM-S2H
[01:47] <hdz> 2.8ghz v.A uses hyper? damn so it's not dual core really, not multi-cpu but considered SMP?
[01:47] <peller> I'm ashamed to say I'm upgrading from Breezy Badger
[01:47] <SaraSmith> gigabyte hdz
[01:47] <^Phantom^> I want to do a custom partition, and would like some help please.
[01:47] <djhash> earthbound01: its "sudo fdisk -l"  <-- add the -l (lowercase L)
[01:47] <SebNaitsabes> phantom
[01:47] <SebNaitsabes> ok sure
[01:47] <slashjamiec> Alnahar : gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, or "gedit /etc/xorg.conf"
[01:47] <SebNaitsabes> pm me
[01:47] <^Phantom^> okay
[01:47] <hdz> sarasmith: the video card is gigabyte?
[01:47] <earthbound01> Sorry.
[01:47] <dr_willis> peller,  no wayt around that i know of.  If you got blank dvds you could download the dvd version i guess.
[01:48] <hdz> qparted phantom
[01:48] <AlNahar> slashjamiec: he can't get to X:)
[01:48] <AlNahar> cant use gedit
[01:48] <hdz> nano
[01:48] <AlNahar> he's going to reinstall with a crt
[01:48] <shadowhywind> hay all, in order to get my wireless card to work (ndiswrapper), I have to restart dbus first? is this normal?
[01:48] <SaraSmith> hdz ATI on board
[01:48] <danielm_mc> vim
[01:48] <hdz> oh
[01:48] <jStefan> hdz, if it's a pentium D it's dual core, but if it's just a pentium 4, it's likely it uses HT
[01:48] <hdz> sara you may need to do the proprietery drivers
[01:48] <hdz> just search for your gfx card on help.ubuntu.com has a walkthru
[01:48] <slashjamiec> Alnahar: Use nano via a terminal then
[01:49] <danielm_mc> vim
[01:49] <peller> jStefan, dr_willis: ok, thanks anyways
[01:49] <hdz> it's p4 1mb cache 533 8kb 16kb
[01:49] <smev81> azureus/vuze cannot find cairo as stated here http://pastebin.com/d7538544a. Why? Can you help me?
[01:49] <solexious> [q] Ive removed with apt-get sendmail but the deamon still starts up when i boot, any ideas why?
[01:49] <sanassar> Hey
[01:49] <sanassar> Anyone need some help
[01:49] <earthbound01> fdisk readout: http://paste.ubuntu.com/45571/
[01:49] <jStefan> hdz, doesn't sound like a dual core pentium to me
[01:49] <jStefan> hdz, just HT
[01:50] <hdz> damn it's cap is 3800mhz when its stuck at 2.8
[01:50] <hdz> yeah
[01:50] <SaraSmith> hdz thank you .. darn this is difficult
[01:50] <hdz> it's just weird a p4, hT
[01:50] <hdz> there's only 3 p4 on intel site that are below 3.2 that are HT
[01:51] <jStefan> hdz, is a desktop or a laptop?
[01:51] <hdz> sara there is much work ahead i dunno about ati but nvidia was a bit of a workthrough
[01:51] <hdz> desktop
[01:51] <hdz> i just did cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:51] <hdz> it's p4
[01:51] <djhash> earthbound01: is ubuntu the only OS installed?
[01:51] <SaraSmith> hdz it's a desktop.
[01:52] <hdz> um
[01:52] <earthbound01> djhash: it should be.  A long time ago this disk had XP on it.
[01:52] <hdz> these ubuntu folks are smart
[01:52] <hdz> like
[01:52] <hdz> must've used slackware back n the day
[01:52] <jStefan> hdz, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Pentium_4_microprocessors#.22Prescott.22_.2890_nm.29
[01:52] <jStefan> hdz, 4th from prescott list?
[01:52] <arooni> can someone tell me how i can get a microsoft wireless laser mouse 6000 to get its back/forward buttons working correctly (in firefox to go back/forward but also in nautilus to navigate folders etc)
[01:53] <djhash> earthbound01: are you sure it is an 80GB HDD? does the bios see it as 80GB?
[01:53] <hdz> imma check jsetefan
[01:53] <Checkmate91> does anyone know how to download an entire website to a local directory preserving links and everything for offline use?
[01:53] <smev81> noone knows :(
[01:54] <djhash> smev81 you might need to compile and install cairo
[01:54] <zhaowm> moring,in China
[01:54] <earthbound01> djhash: This might be a bios problem, you're right.  It says 80gb on the case, and when it had XP it had 80gb too.
[01:54] <tabakhase___> no --force in smartctl -.-
[01:54] <SaraSmith> [20:50:03] <SaraSmith> hdz thank you .. darn this is difficult
[01:54] <SaraSmith> [20:50:03] <hdz> yeah
[01:54] <SaraSmith> [20:50:09] <hdz> it's just weird a p4, hT
[01:54] <SaraSmith> [20:50:33] <hdz> there's only 3 p4 on intel site that are below 3.2 that are HT
[01:54] <SaraSmith> [20:50:35] * Quits: pizzapie<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(Client Quit)
[01:54] <FloodBot1> SaraSmith: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:54] <dr_willis> Checkmate91,  httptrack (or some name similer to that) can do it.. may be other ways also.
[01:54] <SaraSmith> [20:50:59] <jStefan> hdz, is a desktop or a laptop?
[01:54] <smev81> checkmate i buyed a c't last month, which had a tool for your needs.
[01:54] <slashjamiec> I'm unavailable now
[01:54] <earthbound01> djhash: it says 80gb (or the equivalent in bytes) directly on the drive.
[01:55] <arooni> can someone tell me how i can get a microsoft wireless laser mouse 6000 to get its back/forward buttons working correctly (in firefox to go back/forward but also in nautilus to navigate folders etc)?  right the back button on mouse = middle button, and forward button = right click.
[01:55] <Checkmate91> dr_willis, thanks I will check it out
[01:55] <arrrghhh> what's the best cli torrent tool?  azureus is awesome because it's so feature rich, but still java takes a lot of processor cycles
[01:55] <djhash> earthbound01: maybe you have lost sectors and filesystems..
[01:55] <djhash> earthbound01: or hidden for that matter..
[01:55] <SaraSmith> i'm sorry.
[01:55] <smev81> compile cairo? i installed it already. Do you think it isnt build for the needs of azureus and i have to rebuild it to ensure?
[01:56] <SaraSmith> vista is frustrating me
[01:56] <jStefan> hdz, according to that list the 2.8A is not HT
[01:56] <Xcerca> what download manager do you guys use with firefox and FlashGot ?  any suggestions ?
[01:56] <arrrghhh> Xcerca, downloadthemall
[01:56] <danbhfive1> arooni  I do it with an xmodmap file
[01:56] <earthbound01> djhash: Hidden is unlikely, I'm the original owner of this drive.
[01:56] <djhash> smev81: you might need to get dev filers..
[01:56] <smev81> i try
[01:57] <hdz> i think that's it
[01:57] <carandraug> Xcerca: I use wget. It's not Firefox extension but it's does what I want
[01:57] <hdz> i know i saved a .gif of the whole thread and it said HT
[01:57] <NoMax> Hello
[01:57] <herenow> Any idea why I would be banned from #apache even though I've never been there?  I don't know where would b a good place to ask this..
[01:57] <hdz> if i do /exec -o uname -asr
[01:57] <hdz> Linux turtle 2.6.24-21-generic #1 SMP Mon Aug 25 17:32:09 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:57] <hdz> it wouldn't say SMP if it wasn't HT right?
[01:57] <sooki> okay, i have a question, i've had linux installed for a while. i think it's an ext3 fs, and i have a swap partition, i just dropped an old hd i have in that's formatted to ntfs but doesn't have an os installed on it, and i'm trying to install windows to it, but it's saying it's going to need to reformat the linux partition or something to access the mbr, is there a safe way to install windows to a second drive without damaging my linux i
[01:57] <sooki> nstall?
[01:57] <carandraug> Xcerca: I've heard that Aria2 works with FlashGot and is one of the best out there
[01:57] <jStefan> hdz, not sure
[01:57] <Xcerca> arrrghhh  cool ,  i'll try it out
[01:58] <rafaelhwm> hello everybody
[01:58] <jStefan> brb, need to reboot...
[01:58] <sooki> and yeah, i know that i'm going to have to replace the bootloader
[01:58] <herenow> how long does it usually take for an install cd to MEMCHeck for 2 gigs?
[01:58] <arrrghhh> sooki, just unplug the linux hdd
[01:58] <hdz> if you install windows it'll overwrite the bootloader, you can use grub afterwards to do dual boot though
[01:58] <Xcerca> so Aria2 and Downthemall are worth checking out...  alright,  peace bros
[01:58] <arrrghhh> herenow, you can let it run forever if you wish
[01:58] <rafaelhwm> im having a problem, i have and usb headset, what can i do to make the speakers and the headset play together?
[01:59] <keith_> Does anyone know how to get evolution to display notifications when not running?
[01:59] <hdz> jsefan: so that is HT?
[01:59] <herenow> arrrghhh: so after I get one pass with no errors I should be ok?
[01:59] <danbhfive> arooni I don't understand the xmodmap file, but I can pastebin mine if you like
[01:59] <NoMax> Can any1 tell me what wifi USB adapter will work in adhoc mode? Asus wl-167g doesn't...
[01:59] <arrrghhh> herenow, normally.  usually if memory is bad memtest fails within the first 30 secs.
[01:59] <sooki> oh yeah, duh, how could i forget that. thanks arrrghhh
[01:59] <arrrghhh> sooki, np :D
[02:00] <hdz> i got my wifi usb to work through ndiswrapper windows driver in ubuntu
[02:00] <sooki> <3
[02:00] <djhash> earthbound01: you can use a utility called "testdisk" to make sure everything is ok.. but it is a very powerful program and used improperly can basically damage your filesystem beyond recovery.. you could ask for help here for someone who knows how to use it.. or read up on it.
[02:00] <NoMax> In adhoc mode?
[02:00] <hdz> well both
[02:00] <arrrghhh> sooki, if you need help settin up grub when you're done installing windows i know how to do that too haha
[02:00] <hdz> all work in adhoc or infrostructure
[02:00] <herenow> I tried to $sudo tasksel remove lamp-server
[02:00] <Xcerca> arrrghhh with dTa can i remove FlashGot ?
[02:00] <herenow> don't do that
[02:00] <NoMax> Ok I will try ndiswrapper
[02:01] <hdz> look up yer stuff on google card ndiswrapper
[02:01] <arrrghhh> sooki, normally you install windows first and then ubuntu to not worry about grub issues, but with separate hdds it's not that difficult.
[02:01] <NoMax> Thanks
[02:01] <sooki> thanks, i have a kubuntu cd laying around, is there a way to do it off the livecd?
[02:01] <hdz> there's a billion wireless card go-throughs
[02:01] <arrrghhh> Xcerca, i don't use flashgot... so i dunno
[02:01] <earthbound01> thanks djhash.
[02:01] <herenow> is there a way to install from (initramfs)?
[02:01] <sooki> yeah, i've typically always installed windows first, but i've been windows free for a couple of years
[02:02] <hdz> i installed win then ubuntu, works fine
[02:02] <arooni> danbhfive, thanks
[02:02] <sooki> that's the easy way :P
[02:02] <rafaelhwm> im having a problem, i have an usb headset, what can i do to make the speakers and the headset play together the same sound? hope you understand...
[02:02] <herenow> BusyBox... my install cd lead me to busy box instead of the live cd....
[02:02] <arrrghhh> that's the "recommended" way.  but with separate hdds, it's trivial to setup grub.
[02:02] <hdz> not the good way either
[02:02] <hdz> just needed some drivers from win for my wifi and printer
[02:02] <NoMax> Should the adapter be plugged in when u install ndiswrapper???
[02:02] <hdz> no
[02:03] <arrrghhh> herenow, that means your system doesn't like the livecd.  have you tried the alternate or "minimal" install cd?
[02:03] <Daisuke_Ido> what?
[02:03] <hdz> don't plug it in til the end
[02:03] <NoMax> Ok thx
[02:03] <danbhfive> NoMax: Im not sure it matters, Ive always had it plugged in
[02:03]  * Daisuke_Ido facepalms
[02:03] <arrrghhh> herenow, sorry alternate cd and minimal cd are separate discs entirely, didn't mean to make them sound like the same disc.
[02:03] <Daisuke_Ido> further and further down the spiral
[02:03] <hdz> you'll need the .sys and .inf files from win for your adapter then install them and copy them from ndiswrapper binary then you will plug in reboot all should go well
[02:04] <hdz> you should really look at a walkthrough
[02:04] <NoMax> I'll give it a try .... Be back if not working ;-)
[02:04] <hdz> like google to make sure there's a need for ndiswrapper first
[02:04] <Daisuke_Ido> rebooting isn't always necessary, i wish people would quit assuming this is windows lite
[02:04] <herenow> arrrghhh: so there is nothing I can do to install or format hd from busybox?
[02:05] <hdz> um with my wusb54gs there was a need one time, ya know linux supposed to be win-free but i needed to mod a driver to work with ubuntu
[02:05] <Daisuke_Ido> hdz: occassionally it's necessary
[02:05] <Aquahallic> what's a good virus scanner to use with ubuntu.. I used AVG when I had winblows
[02:05] <arrrghhh> herenow, there probably is, but i don't know how.
[02:05] <hdz> same with nvidia
[02:05] <NoMax> It works in infrastructure mode but not adhoc...I get operation not permitted when brnging up adhoc mode
[02:05] <carandraug> hdz: you got your wusb54gs working without ndiswrapper?
[02:05] <danbhfive> !virus > Aquahallic
[02:05] <hdz> other then that, not really
[02:05] <Daisuke_Ido> hdz: wasn't referring to you in particular, just the mentality of "oh, i changed something, i'd better reboot"
[02:05] <arrrghhh> Aquahallic, that's the thing... you don't need a virus scanner.  there's clamav, but that's mostly if you're using linux as a mailserver sending mail to winblows machines
[02:05] <hdz> carandraug: no i don't see how it would work without ndiswrapper
[02:06] <arrrghhh> !virus
[02:06] <kavelot> is there a way to install QT 4.4.* using apt-get?
[02:06] <Daisuke_Ido> err...
[02:06] <hdz> daisuke_ido: yeah i don't want ppl to think that either, if they do then they should try slackware out for a bit
[02:06] <Daisuke_Ido> i believe 4.4 is in hardy-backports
[02:07] <carandraug> hdz: oh, ok. It seemmed to me you did said that, and then I was interested. Also, I think it's necessary to blacklist some modules for ndiswrapper.At least I needed to do that.
[02:07] <hdz> linux isn't attacked with virus's like a closed source system
[02:07] <kavelot> gonna check, thanks
[02:07] <hdz> no i don't think blacklist is needed at all
[02:07] <jtmoney> hey guys, i apt-get purged samba, rm -rf'd /etc/samba, and i'm trying to apt-get install samba and it's not installing smb.conf, etc. how do i get these files back?
[02:08] <hdz> developers of linksys could care less really
[02:08] <kaell> how do i specify a port to connect to on a server in xchat?  when i do /server moo 1234 it works.... but when i enter "moo 1234" in for a server it says invalid server
[02:08] <simester>  I'm new to Linux/Ubuntu and I just installed 8.04, my wireless card is recognized, but a wireless connection (which I have) cannot be found. My only choices are "Wired Connection" and "Point to Point Connection". Help...please?
[02:08] <hdz> they'll make one for a popular router, not an access point
[02:08] <NoMax> De-wrt rules
[02:08] <hdz> simester: google for your (card) and ndiswrapper
[02:09] <carandraug> simester: tried to run "iwconfig scan" in a terminal?
[02:10] <[1]Tony> tony
[02:10] <carandraug> hdz: yeah. Specially because few people make a fuss about it since it works with ndiswrapper
[02:10] <simester> My card (in the Hardware Drivers screen) is Atheros 802.11. Is that the term I should Google or am I looking for another manufacturer name?
[02:10] <[1]Tony> Is there anyone that could recommend a good Wifi manager that doesn't recquire a whole lot of dependancies for Heron?
[02:10] <bullgard4> In dmesg  in the identifier 'ata2.00' what does  "2" and "00" stand for? (see for example https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+questions/31411)
[02:10] <hdz> bus id
[02:11] <^Phantom^> actually
[02:11] <hdz> simester try atheros usb (version) ndiswrapper
[02:11] <seedbox> hey can someone help me make a init.d script to start a process on startup
[02:11] <hdz> or just go to help.ubuntu.com
[02:11] <hdz> man nice
[02:11] <EnjoyMe> install google chrome on ubuntu -> http://www.shawncassick.com
[02:12] <[1]Tony> anyone?
[02:12] <miyako> hello
[02:12] <^Phantom^> I have a stuck window
[02:12] <carandraug> simester: you can make sure with "lshw -C network"
[02:12] <hdz> hey enjoyme: you try chome?
[02:12] <[1]Tony> i've tried gtkwifi but it's a pain in the ass to install the dependencies because i don't have an internet connection to this computer that isn't wireless
[02:12] <^Phantom^> I accidentally pressed space when the install window showed up
[02:12] <^Phantom^> and now the "Abort the installation?" Window is stuck
[02:12] <^Phantom^> I can't "cancel" or "quit"
[02:13] <simester> HDZ, sorry for uber-newbie ignorance. Is Atheros USB NDISWRAPPER software I should download? I did a search and instructions came up for prev versions (FF, GG). Would that work?
[02:13] <dr_willis> ^Phantom^,  try the tab key?
[02:13] <cocotico> wat can i do installing but its geting stuck with the sawp partition
[02:13] <seedbox> hey can someone help me make a init.d script to start a process on startup
[02:14] <dr_willis> seedbox,  depending on the task. You may just want to launch it from /etc/rc.local
[02:14] <^Phantom^> I push the button and the window just stays there
[02:14] <^Phantom^> They're like dead buttons...
[02:14] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: you could set up your wifi network with simple comand-line tools, and once you managed that, install gtkwifi off the Internet.
[02:14] <carandraug> simester: most likely they will work. I still follow instructions from 6.10 to install mine with ndiswrapper
[02:14] <seedbox> well basically i have process that wants a admin password when it starts up with this program...i want the process to start up with root priv dr willis
[02:15] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: if you can afford to run an unsecured or WEP-network (basically the same) for a really short while, it's just a few steps.
[02:15] <simester> carandraug: I ran that and got info spit back. I dont know how to interpret it, though.
[02:15] <herenow> you can't get a text install from a desktop livecd?
[02:15] <dr_willis> herenow,  last i looked.. No you cant.
[02:15] <kavelot> should I find problems installing QT 4.4 from hardy-backports on gutsy?
[02:16] <dr_willis> herenow,  the dvd version i think can do both
[02:16] <yates> has anyone had luck with the xserver-xorg-input-synaptics touchpad driver?
[02:16] <^Phantom^> desktop livecd?
[02:16] <Aquahallic> danbhfive: ty!.. nice read.. makes sense too...;)
[02:16] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: I have the drivers wrapped with ndiswrapper, the ubuntu wireless manager doens't detect my network though
[02:16] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: I've had this problem before and i remember having to get a different wireless manager
[02:16] <carandraug> simester: search for lines with something like Description or Product
[02:16] <IndyGunFreak> yates: i've used synaptics to just disable my touchpad.. i guess youc ould say thats luck..lol
[02:16] <crazyl> greetings all, does anyone know if it is possible to install Ubuntu 8.04.1 on a Dell Inspiron 518?
[02:16] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: what card/wifi chip have you got?
[02:17] <herenow> man, I rode a motorcycle 40 miles round trip to get this disk just to get busybox
[02:17] <^Phantom^> is there a livecd I need to get, a separate one, for a laptop?
[02:17] <seedbox> dr_willis: how would i launch it from /etc/rc.local
[02:17] <yates> IndyGunFreak: the psmouse driver is buggy - shuts off "double-tap-and-hold to drag" very frequently - i heard the synaptics driver fixes this
[02:17] <rellis> I have a binary (liblouis lt-xml2brl) that was compiled on Ubuntu 32bit and will not run on a Ubuntu 64bit install on an AMD Phenom system.. should this be expected?
[02:17] <seedbox> can i PM you dr_willis
[02:17] <crdlb> kavelot: hardy-backports contains backports for hardy not from hardy
[02:17] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: It's a Motorola Wireless PCI Adapter WPCI810G
[02:17] <herenow> how about recovering a totally messed up system where dpkg and apt-get are buggy?
[02:17] <rellis> The binary returns "No such file or directory" when executed.
[02:17] <simester> carndraug: Description: Ethernet contoller  /  Product: AR5413 802.11abg NIC
[02:17] <dr_willis> seedbox,  rc.local is just a script with commands that get ran at boot time.. very simple..  put in the path to the command, it will get ran as root when booting
[02:18] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: so you have the driver working with ndiswrapper?
[02:18] <^Phantom^> Do I need to get a special live cd for laptops?
[02:18] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: Yeah, it says it's installed.  ifconfig showed a wlan0 device
[02:18] <jrib> ^Phantom^: no
[02:19] <HostMark> Hi all
[02:19] <HostMark> I am in charge of the room here
[02:19] <HostMark> Please chat nicely
[02:19] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: can you ping some inet host?
[02:19] <goulde> hey guys
[02:19] <jrib> HostMark: do you have a question about ubuntu support?
[02:19] <HostMark> or you will be removed by HostMark
[02:19] <HostMark> Hi jrib nice to meet you :)
[02:19] <yates> if i install the synaptics driver, do i have to do something to uninstall the psmouse driver?
[02:19] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: No because I can't connect to my wireless network
[02:20] <HostMark> I am the chat room Moderater for Ubuntu Network
[02:20] <jrib> HostMark: please stay on topic here.  Everything that's not about ubuntu support belongs in #ubuntu-offtopci
[02:20] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: does AP association work?
[02:20] <crazyl> so no one had any experience with Ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron 518?
[02:20] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: iwconfig will tell you.
[02:20] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: It doens't show up in the ubuntu wifi manager, I tried putting the stuff in manually too and no luck
[02:20] <jrib> HostMark: #ubuntu-offtopic even
[02:20] <HostMark> jrib, Please stop disrupting the room and quit harrasing me, thanks :)
[02:20] <goulde> here's my problem:  I'm very used to ubuntu and especially ubuntu on laptops.  However, I wanted to check out Ubuntu Studio and I've got it on my laptop now.  Problem is, the support for wireless networking stinks.  I want to have it work like ubuntu does where it's got that network switcher/detecor in the upper right.  I'm trying to get wifi radar to work but it sucks when you have something that won't automatically detect encryption
[02:20] <goulde> types
[02:20] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: Correction iwconfig showed wlan0, ifconfig did not
[02:21] <goulde> does anyone know what the name of that "applet" they're using in ubuntu 8.04 is so I can install it on ubuntu studio
[02:21] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: what's your network's encryption type, WEP or WPA?
[02:22] <^Phantom^> I want to manually configure my partitions, giving linux 12gb and leaving the rest for Windows, which is alread installed
[02:22] <hdz-> wierd
[02:22] <dr_willis> ^Phantom^,  this is windows XP or vista?
[02:22] <hdz-> thats what i did phantom
[02:22] <goulde_> hey guys
[02:22] <^Phantom^> May I please get guidance
[02:22] <^Phantom^> XP
[02:22] <^Phantom^> (i dislike Vista)
[02:22] <simester> Carandraug: It says "Description: Ethernet contoller  /  Product: AR5413 802.11abg NIC"
[02:23] <hdz-> just do the guided thing and size it
[02:23] <hdz-> it'll work fine
[02:23] <balrog> how do i change the default handler for pdfs?  right now, gedit tries (and fails) to open all my pdfs...
[02:23] <dr_willis> ^Phantom^,  i normally use the gparted live cd, boot it, use gparted tor esize the windows partition smaller, leaving a spot of the HD unallocated at the end.
[02:23] <cocotico> im seting py dell inspiron 6000 and it ge frosen with the partition swap
[02:23] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: I'm not sure, I do know that there's no security on it
[02:23] <hdz-> anyone else have hald running
[02:23] <jrib> !defaultapp > balrog
[02:23] <goulde_> I'm running Ubuntu Studio and I'm much more used to Ubuntu 8.04LTS.  I just want to see if I can get the awesome wireless/networking switcher that normal ubuntu uses and install it on here.    I like how the built in one for ubuntu scans for networks and detects encruption types.
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> simester: thats an atheros device, you shoudl be able to use madwifi w/ it pretty easily
[02:23] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: then it should be quite easy to get you hooked up by a bunch of CLI commands.
[02:23] <dr_willis> ^Phantom^,  if you were using vista. you could use the vista resize tool. and get this task done in about 1/4 of the time..  :) ive herd to NOT use gparted on a vista install. (jiust somthing to rember)
[02:24] <simester> IndyGunFreak: I'm BRAND new to this. Is that part of Ubuntu or somethng I download?
[02:24] <hdz-> they all come down to regular scripts man
[02:24] <IndyGunFreak> simester: something you need to download, hang on
[02:24] <simester> k
[02:24] <balrog> jrib: thanks, i didnt see that...
[02:24] <balrog> jrib: heh, works
[02:24] <hdz-> who said they instal ndiswrapper
[02:25] <herenow> does ubuntu-desktop automatically come with postgresql?
[02:25] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: What commands do I need to run?
[02:25] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: first, do this: sudo iwconfig wlan0 key off
[02:25] <carandraug> simester: "AR5413" that's the chip inside your wireless adaptor
[02:25] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: I'm assuming wlan0 is your wifi device.
[02:25] <IndyGunFreak> simester: actually, i stand corrected, it looks ilke that device might have some issues w/ ubuntu
[02:25] <hdz-> it has an sql you can install from cd or orig on cd, doesn't install on startup orig
[02:26] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: next: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "YourNetworkName"
[02:26] <hdz-> with regular ubuntu install and wifi if device not supported you copy usb8023.sys and the inf file for the driver with ndiswrapper to get it going just google
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> simester: check out post #3, that might help...  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=778726
 Nice. Way to kick off the switch. I also have a Linksys Wireless-G w/ SpeedBooster card, but I had the same problem.
[02:26] <hdz-> oh
[02:26] <hdz-> i have that card
[02:26] <hdz-> running it now
[02:26] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: Is that it?
[02:27] <hdz-> wusb54gs
[02:27] <noah> how can i restore my /etc/apt/sources.list to the default, canonical one in gutsy?
[02:27] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: that's the wifi part, now you need to assign an IP.
[02:27] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: better yet, do you use DHCP?
[02:27] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: Yes I do
[02:27] <^Phantom^> I want to use about 12gigs of my ntfs partition for ubuntu
[02:27] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: first, tell me if iwconfig wlan0 indicates that you have associated successfully.
[02:27] <jrib> noah: system -> administration -> sources
[02:28] <dottedquad> I'm reading how to mount a hfs+ partion and understand the steps.   How do I find a device name of my external usb hard drive?
[02:28] <noah> jrib: hmmm... this is a server that i only have command line access on
[02:28] <hdz-> sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[02:28] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: Well.. I'm kind of in Windows right now lol.. Let's assume that it does what would I do next to have DHCP assign an IP?
[02:28] <jrib> noah: :/
[02:29] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: before you try DHCP, you should make sure that the card works in managed mode using: sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode managed
[02:29] <jrib> noah: just give yourself hardy, -updates, and -security for main, restricted, universe, and multiverse
[02:30] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: finally, you'd try: sudo dhclient wlan0 (and pray :) )
[02:30] <simester> IndyGunFreak: Do you think  a Linksys Wireless-G w/ SpeedBooster card may work better?
[02:30] <jrib> noah: omit anything you don't want.  Even though universe and multiverse are not enabled by default, most people enable them
[02:30] <IndyGunFreak> simester: dunno to be truthful
[02:30] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: Alright, I'm gonna boot up Ubuntu and try that, Thanks!
[02:30] <miyako> damn small linux doesn't seem to have been updated in a long time
[02:30] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: hold on
[02:30] <c_lisp> im trying to test my cron tab so I put this in it   0 * * * * /usr/bin/gedit  but its not load gedit at all anybody can help me?
[02:30] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: Alright
[02:30] <jrib> !cron > c_lisp
[02:31] <jrib> c_lisp: read about gui apps there
[02:31] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: if dhclient won't allow you to request an IP, you might need to do another "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" first.
[02:31] <dottedquad85> How do i find my external usb device name so i can mount the hfs+ partition?
[02:31] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: Alrighty
[02:31] <Ferry> If I have ubuntu already installed, but would also like to have a windows dual boot added on, what would be the best way to do that
[02:31] <cosmodad> [1]Tony: that's all. Good luck!
[02:31] <dottedquad85> i opened up gparted and it didn't find it
[02:31] <c_lisp> ty
[02:31] <[1]Tony> cosmodad: Thanks!
[02:31] <jigp> hello is there any site for shortcut keys for ubuntu desktop 8.04?
[02:31] <ScheissDrogen> dottedquad85: sudo fdisk-l
[02:32] <dottedquad85> thx i'll give that a shot
[02:32] <usser> c_lisp, i think that 0 has to be a 1 to run it every minute
[02:32] <GamingX> Ferry: I dunno if this is the best option, but I would opt for a Virtual Machine for Windows.
[02:32] <simester> ok, thx anyway!
[02:33] <vock> I have a question about OpenSSH: I found my rsa and dsa keys, but it says on the community docs "opening the file .ssh/authorized_keys". I don't have that file, are you supposed to make it?
[02:33] <jrib> noah: do you understand what you need to do?
[02:33] <acyclic_graph> hey. I have a permissions problem, I think. All of a sudden I can't edit files on my external HDD. Can anyone help?
[02:33] <GamingX> Ferry: i.e if you have the resources.
[02:33] <jrib> acyclic_graph: what filesystem?
[02:33] <acyclic_graph> vfat
[02:33] <acyclic_graph> fat32
[02:33] <usser> Ferry, or put windows on an external hdd and use bios to choose boot device
[02:33] <noah> jrib: more or less
[02:33] <jrib> acyclic_graph: did you set anything up in fstab?
[02:33] <adude> is there a way to turn compiz on and off easily and have it remember my settings?
[02:33] <Ferry> gamingx what kind of resources would I need
[02:33] <jrib> noah: if you're not sure, I don't mind looking it over if you pastebin when you are done
[02:33] <c_lisp> in man it says 0 to 59
[02:33] <bastid_raZor> vock; can you give me the link you're using?
[02:33] <noah> jrib: i managed to find what i was looking for tho
[02:33] <ScheissDrogen> acyclic_graph:pm me , if you want
[02:34] <acyclic_graph> I didn't, it's been mounting fine for months and this is the first time this has happened
[02:34] <ScheissDrogen> pm, damn
[02:34] <vock> bastid_raZor:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto
[02:34] <noah> jrib: on a machine i had upgraded to hardy, it was there in /etc/apt/sources.list.save
[02:34] <GamingX> Ferry: I meant system hardware resources to allocate to Windows so that both Ubuntu and Windows can run at a time.
[02:34] <rafaelhwm> hello
[02:34] <rafaelhwm> im having a problem with my usb headset, can somebody help me?
[02:34] <saik0> how do i get the full path of a bin thats someplace in the PATH
[02:34] <usser> c_lisp, yea thats minutes 0 * * * * * in this case means run a command every 0th minute
[02:35] <Ferry> gamingx oh, yeah my comp has been a bit buggy lately, and all I really want windows for is gaming
[02:35] <jrib> saik0: which some_bin_here
[02:35] <GamingX> Ferry: If you want it for gaming, then I VM wouldn't be a good idea.
[02:35] <saik0> jrib, thanks couldint remember for that for some reasomn
[02:35] <GamingX> Ferry: Dual-Booting would be an option then.
[02:35] <^Phantom^> would i be better off partitioning from within windows?
[02:36] <Ferry> Gamingx I know I need to make a separate partition, but all the resources I seem to find are for setting up a dual boot from a clean reformat
[02:36] <seid> join #c
[02:36] <janek64> Enter text here...witaj
[02:36] <bastid_raZor> vock; have you installed openssh-server and openssh-client ?
[02:37] <carandraug> ^Phantom^: to install ubuntu and dual-boot? I think it's better to formate with Ubuntu CD
[02:38] <GamingX> Ferry: Though I've never tried installing Windows after Ubuntu, (I've done it the other way round) but heres a tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=395185&p=2388318
[02:38] <vock> bastid_raZor: yeah
[02:38] <Drk_Guy> Hi!
[02:38] <seedbox> dr_willis: adding to local.rs worked i think but now the program i added to sessions-startup wont start up on startup anymore?
[02:38] <_Zeus_1> !hi
[02:38] <dvlper> hi all
[02:38] <Drk_Guy> lol
[02:38] <usser> c_lisp, sorry my bad your crontab means run every hour use /5 to specify interval ie */2 * * * * * should run every two minutes
[02:38] <^Phantom^> i want to keep my current partitions intact and my windows install as it is
[02:39] <dvlper> I have a question about sourcing kernel
[02:39] <dvlper> ?
[02:39] <Drk_Guy> !wubi | ^Phantom^
[02:39] <Ferry> gamingx thank you for your help.
[02:39] <dvlper> anyone would help me figure it out
[02:39] <Drk_Guy> !kernel | dvlper
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ Wubi is not the best long term solution
[02:39] <SubOne> When a window needs my attention it flashes. Is there any way to make this flashing more prominent with the human theme? I am constantly missing IMs because I didn't see them
[02:39] <carandraug> ^Phantom^: just be careful when installing Ubuntu. You can create the partitions for Ubuntu from within windows because they have to be as ext3 and whatever for swap
[02:40] <herenow> wow, this apt does ave super cow powers
[02:40] <dvlper> I want to understand I have typed apt-get source linux
[02:40] <GamingX> Ferry: I can't guarantee it to work, you can try though. Also read up the whole thread.
[02:40] <Syco54645_AAO> why would it be that after using my laptop for a bit nautilus will freeze then when i kill it i cannot reopen it (doesnt give an error, just hangs) along with gnome-terminal.  that just hangs as well
[02:40] <Drk_Guy> herenow, super cow --> root user ;)
[02:40] <SebNaitsabes> Ferry: see my pm
[02:40] <dvlper> but the files I got
[02:40] <^Phantom^> If i format the drive i'll lose the system recovery and system restore utilities provided with the laptop
[02:41] <SebNaitsabes> Phanton
[02:41] <SebNaitsabes> wubi
[02:41] <SebNaitsabes> or virtual machine in Windows
[02:41] <billy_> hi. i have a problem with my firefox. im on an ubuntu machine, and when im on a webpage, say msn.com, then when I open a new tab, the address bar does change to blank one but rahter keeps msn.com. anyone know how to fix this? it works fine when i run it from root (sudo firefox).
[02:41] <Syco54645_AAO> and there went the gnome panels as well
[02:41] <billy_> doesnt* change
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> dvlper What are you trying to do.. that isnt even close
[02:41] <dvlper> I want to compile e kernel
[02:41] <dvlper> from source
[02:41] <Ferry> gamingx I always look before I leap, no reason to risk everything
[02:41] <seedbox> is there an alternate way for a prog to start on startup then going to sessions startup and adding it
[02:42] <_Zeus_1> billy_: move your ~/.mozilla directory to ~/.mozilla_bak and see if that fixes it
[02:42] <RickZilla> Hi gang, I just downloaded the ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso file and saved it to my computer.  Do I put it on a cd-rom and run it from there, or what?  I was hoping to create a Live CD to try out ubuntu before installing it onto a machine.
[02:42] <herenow> so how clean will my broken system (boot to command-line, fix apt with install -f) after $sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ you can shrink the existing windows partition and add an ext3 and swap to the unallocated space
[02:42] <carandraug> ^Phantom^: can't you backup your system as it is with those utilities?
[02:42] <Rabbitbunny> dvlper: the enter key is not puncuation. type your replies on a single line.
[02:42] <GamingX> Ferry: Fine then, and good luck :)
[02:42] <dvlper> ok
[02:42] <herenow> apt can not remove anything that was built from source, eh?
[02:42] <carandraug> ^Phantom^: you can also do what Jack_Sparrow said and resize the partition. I've heard it's a lot safer nowadays
[02:42] <Drk_Guy> herenow, no
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> dvlper /join #Kernel
[02:42] <dvlper> thanks
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ USe a windows tool like partition magic for that matter
[02:43] <herenow> how does the package manager interact with things that are built from source example=postgresql
[02:43] <^Phantom^> can i resize the partition from on the livecd and keep the windows installation intact and bootable?
[02:43] <billy_> _Zeus_1, thanks, worked perfectly
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> dvlper np
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> herenow It handles packages.. not things built from source
[02:44] <carandraug> RickZilla: ueah. Burn the iso into a CD and boot from it. If you want to install with Wubi you can just insert the CD when already in widnows
[02:44] <Drk_Guy> herenow, everything apt downloads is precompiled, if you want to compiled off everything by yourself, with optimizations for your hardware, then use Gentoo
[02:44] <^Phantom^> Jack_Sparrow, should I boot into windows before I resize the partitions?
[02:44] <^Phantom^> Also, I have 1.41 gb unpartitioned...
[02:44] <herenow> Jack_Sparrow: what if you have redundancies... can you point me documentation about some conf files and how paths are defined and some basics like that?
[02:44] <RickZilla> carandraug:  I just burned it onto a cd...when I try to open it, my Roxio cd creator utility tries to open it up
[02:44] <RickZilla> Not even sure how to run it from cd right now
[02:44] <bastid_raZor> vock; have you connected to any where with ssh? it is autogenerated once you actually connect to someplace.
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ You can use the Ubuntu installer to make the partitions you need, but in your case we are going to hit the 4 primary partition limit
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> herenow not right now no
[02:45] <carandraug> RickZilla: I never used Wubi. But to test it as liveCD, restart the PC with the CD in there. If you come back to windows, go change the boot order in your BIOS
[02:45] <carandraug> RickZilla: you know how to change the boot order in the BIOS?
[02:46] <vock> bastid_raZor: I haven't connected anywhere yet, I have another computer I wanted to ssh into, don't you have to share the key somehow?
[02:46] <RickZilla> Yeah...F8 on powerup, right?
[02:46] <herenow> can gentoo get compilers/interpreters with a package manager :P ?
[02:46] <vock> bastid_raZor: and after get the key, load it into .ssh/authorized_keys ?
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ You get around the limit by created an extended partition and creating logical partitions on the single extended
[02:46] <carandraug> RickZilla: it changes from computer from computer I guess. But yeah!
[02:46] <^Phantom^> Jack_Sparrow, I'll only be putting ubuntu on it.
[02:46] <michaesaur> you must be kidding.  there's a million scripts out there!!
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ before you do anything.. you need to defrag your windows system.. twice
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> ok
[02:47] <SubOne> anyone hear my question about panel flashing?
[02:47] <RickZilla> carandraug:  I'll try that first...thanks for your help
[02:47] <Damin> Hey guys..
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !seperatehome
[02:47] <strategy> How do i find out what my IP address is?
[02:47] <usser> strange, ifconfig
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ Let me give you a link on making a seperate /home
[02:47] <strategy> thanks usser
[02:47] <Damin> Trying to get the word out about Ohio Linuxfest.. Jono Bacon is keynoting, so we're trying to get as many people to pass this along as possible..
[02:48] <Damin> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ohio_LinuxFest_2008
[02:48] <^Phantom^> Will I need to be in windows for this?
[02:48] <^Phantom^> I'm livecd now...
[02:48] <Damin> Please digg that and get it out to your LOCO teams / LUGS etc..
[02:48] <SebNaitsabes> Ferry | Grub
[02:48] <michaesaur> Damin: money people as possible?
[02:48] <SebNaitsabes> !Grub  | Ferry
[02:48] <Damin> michaesaur: Sorry.. as "many" people as possible! :)
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[02:49] <saik0> do backgrounded process continue if you exit the shell
[02:49] <^Phantom^> I already defragmented once today...
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ That will make your life easier in the long run
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ as long as you defragged you should be fine..   go into partition editor
[02:49] <Tina> hi I'm Tina.
[02:50] <khin> hey i just installed ubuntu hardy but i can't seem to find xchat in the repos. do i need to add some weird repos or something for this?
[02:50] <mandark> can anyone tell me how to update only a particular package
[02:50] <^Phantom^> I also deleted like 60 gigs of junk after I did that :D
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !info xchat
[02:51] <khin> but universe is enabled and its not there
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> mandark DO you mean to a version newer than in our repos
[02:51] <mandark> Jack_Sparrow; ya
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> khin sudo apt-get update
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> mandark find a deb or build it yourself
[02:51] <magbuntu> so, i've got an odd question... is there a way i can get irc in a transparent window..  essentially i want no window at all.. just text on my desktop..
[02:51] <magbuntu> ??
[02:51] <Bsims> Hrm does the server not allow /list #ubu*?
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Bsims correct
[02:52] <mandark> Jack_Sparrow; i wanted 2 update only wine package..can u tell me how
[02:52] <Bsims> magbuntu: I've seen consoles embeded into a background
[02:52] <^Phantom^> Why is it so important to defrag in windows?  (I'm curious)
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> mandark /join #winehq
[02:52] <Bsims> Jack_Sparrow: so how does one search it?
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ because you are going to resize the Windows partition.
[02:52] <magbuntu> Bsims: ah, .. so i'd have to get like irsii or something? and use the console to do that?
[02:53] <Bsims> ^Phantom^: less important with ntfs but it moves all the freespace together
[02:53] <carandraug> Bsims: there's a list of them here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[02:53] <Bsims> magbuntu: yeah its what I'd do
[02:53] <magbuntu> Bsims: marvelous, thanks.
[02:53] <Bsims> thanks magbuntu
[02:53] <mandark> Jack_Sparrow; not many ppl ther 2 answer
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Bsims Sorry to busy atm and I need to go to dinner.  THe wife is giving me that look
[02:53] <bastid_raZor> vock; a key is autogenerated once you make a ocnnection.
[02:53] <Bsims> er carandraug
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> mandark that is your only optiuon
[02:53] <Bsims> magbuntu: I am typing this in a full page terminal but its not the background
[02:53] <manu__> HI
[02:54] <dottedquad85> I unplugged and plugged the external drive back in and ubuntu ended up find and auto mounting it for me :-)
[02:54] <^Phantom^> should i redefrag since I deleted the data AFTER I defragmented?
[02:54] <magnatop> Bsims: i understand... you've given me a good start tho :)  thanks.
[02:54] <Bsims> magnatop: I really like irssi for a terminal client
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ absolutely
[02:54] <ScheissDrogen>  dottedquad85:so youre fine ?
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ deleting those files after blew all sorts of holes in your windows side
[02:54] <Bsims> magnatop: also apt-get install screen, its basicaly tabs for the terminal and you can disconnect the window and have it still running
[02:55] <vock> bastid_raZor: So you just make the connection using the root password for a linux box? that seems kinda unsecure
[02:55] <dottedquad85> SchiessDrogen: yes I am
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> ^Phantom^ I dont mean to leave you..  You should find plenty of competent help here.
[02:55] <^Phantom^> jaakkome
[02:55] <^Phantom^> Jack_Sparrow
[02:55] <^Phantom^> before you go
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[02:55] <bastid_raZor> vock; no, use your user password on the box you're connecting to. you will need to have a user already set up on the box you are connecting to.
[02:55] <carandraug> Bsims: magnatop: it's also more than a terminal with tabs. You can split a terminal window into two. Really, really handy
[02:56] <magnatop> nice.
[02:56] <magnatop> i'll look into that.
[02:56] <^Phantom^> should I just virtualbox install ubuntu in windows?
[02:56] <Bsims> carandraug: indeed never used it that way but last time I egosurfed some dude in china was using my config file
[02:56] <magnatop> today is my first day having a linux install.. old box.. so i'm learning :)
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[02:56] <bastid_raZor> vock; with Ubuntu you can not use the root password anyways... unless you've set one and that is bad.
[02:56]  * Bsims needs to throw it back up to the new webpace
[02:56] <magnatop> why won't it let me apt-get?
[02:56] <magnatop> ...
[02:56] <Bsims> magnatop: sudo apt-get
[02:57] <vock> bastid_raZor: isn't root password the same as user password?
[02:57] <carandraug> Bsims: I've heard there's a patch to split it vertically as well but I never used it myself
[02:57] <magnatop> sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntubox
[02:57] <magnatop> Oo
[02:57] <Bsims> heh wierd
[02:57] <Bsims> Oh new slrn version out
[02:57] <Bsims> magnatop: on a default install?
[02:57] <vock> bastid_razor: don't you use the user password to get root priveliges?
[02:57] <magnatop> yes.
[02:57] <bastid_raZor> vock; the root account password is not the same no, you being in the admin group gives you root privledges
[02:58] <magnatop> hmm..
[02:58] <Bsims> magnatop: do me a favor less /etc/hostname and tell me what it says
[02:58] <magnatop> ubuntubox
[02:58] <Bsims> Hrm thats right then
[02:58] <carandraug> magnatop: what error does it give you when you try apt-get install?
[02:59] <magnatop> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[02:59] <magnatop> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[02:59] <Strav> he. I'm experiencing suspend problems since kernel 2.6.24 (most probably due/linked to the change from proc/acpi to sys/acpi)... When resuming from suspend, it seems that the system do resume but my video card (ati radeon mobility 7500) goes beserk. I thought it might be the framebuffer drivers I had activated but blacklisting them won't solve the problem. Any suggestion?
[02:59] <strategy> magnatop, 'sudo apt-get install .....'
[02:59] <carandraug> magnatop: "sudo apt-get install nameofpackage"
[02:59] <Bsims> and its sudo, and you don't have synaptic or anything else up
[02:59] <magnatop> hehe
[02:59] <magnatop> oh
[02:59] <strategy> magnatop, you must be root to do administrative stuff.  runs "..command.." with administrative privelages
[03:00] <Strav> btw any news on the gui for aptitude? (was on google summer of code if I'm right)
[03:00] <magnatop> strategy: gotcha
[03:00] <Bsims> magnatop: want me to tell you the most important command for linux?
[03:00] <vock> bastid_razor: So if i set up my ssh badly, and someone can log into my only user at the moment, then they are in the admin group and since they know my user pwd, they can use that to gain root priv?
[03:01] <magnatop> Bsims: yes :)
[03:01] <Bsims> magnatop: man man its the manual for the manual system
[03:01] <magnatop> lol
[03:01] <Bsims> Heh you laugh, saved my butt before
[03:01] <magnatop> Bsims: thanks :)
[03:01] <strategy> magnatop, no joke
[03:01] <strategy> it's by far the most important imho
[03:01] <steph3> hiya
[03:01] <strategy> type `man [any command or program name here]'
[03:01] <strategy> it'll give you tons of info on it
[03:01] <Strav> and then there's the classic: apt-get remove --purge libc6 --yes-I-am-aware-I-m-scraping-my-system
[03:01] <bastid_raZor> vock; correct. by using sudo in CLI or gksudo to launch a gui application with root privileges.
[03:02] <carandraug> magnatop: they're all talking serious. It's the command you'll use the most in Linux
[03:02] <magnatop> well, in that case, i better go find my reading glasses :)
[03:02] <vock> bastid_razor: Is there a way to make it so someone can't ssh into my admin group user then?
[03:02] <magnatop> sudo apt-get install screen
[03:02] <magnatop> er..
[03:02] <bastid_raZor> vock; don't give them your password.
[03:02] <Strav> magnatop: I might suggest you the "info" instead of man pages...
[03:03] <Strav> if you wish to get a more structured view on that are the basics of your system
[03:03] <carandraug> magnatop: you can also check a man page of configuration files to learn what to do with it, not only of programs.
[03:03] <vock> bastid_raZor: heh, i guess, no way to disable access though?
[03:03] <magnatop> wow, thats very helpfull.
[03:03] <Bsims> magnatop: linux is helpful
[03:04] <RickZilla> Ok gang...I put ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso on a cd-rom, changed my boot sequence so that the cd drive would boot first, verified it, restarted, then...nothing.  Windows booted as usual...can somebody suggest something I'm doing wrong?
[03:04] <seedbox> whats the best ubuntu torrent client besides transmission that gui
[03:04] <bastid_raZor> vock; disable ssh you mean? 'access' meaning?
[03:04] <Bsims> If I was making a distro first time you opened a command prompt it would show it
[03:04] <Strav> Bsims: yea, and that's because you often need help.
[03:04] <ScheissDrogen> !best | seedbox
[03:04] <Bsims> Strav: but eventually it all makes sense
[03:04] <strategy> RickZilla, did you burn it using the normal windows burning utility?
[03:04] <seedbox> god damnit just name some
[03:04] <ScheissDrogen> seedbox : try ktorrent or opera
[03:04] <strategy> RickZilla, if you did that, the CD isnt 'bootable'.
[03:04] <tj83> RickZilla, did you write the .iso to disk or write the image from .iso?
[03:04] <seedbox> thanks
[03:04] <bastid_raZor> !torrent | seedbox
[03:04] <Bsims> seedbox: apt-cache show torrent|less|sort
[03:05] <ScheissDrogen> lol
[03:05] <steph3> i got a prob, if i start xchat on ubuntu it opens but if close after one sec
[03:05] <vock> bastid_raZor: disable ssh, or disable ssh capabilities into specific accounts, beyond just not giving out passwords?
[03:05] <RickZilla> strategy and tj83:  I burned the file to a cd like I would any other file...is there another way of doing that?  creating a bootable cd?
[03:05] <Bsims> steph3: open it from a command line
[03:05] <strategy> RickZilla, yes. See this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[03:05] <Bsims> RickZilla: Ahh you need to actually burn the iso
[03:05] <steph3> im new to ubuntu
[03:05] <steph3> whats the commandline?
[03:05] <RickZilla> ok...back I go, lol....thanks for the quick and generous help
[03:06] <Strav> Bsims: linux is quite well documented yea, but most of the time, you'd wish to keep that doc away and focus on your main occupation (that MIGHT NOT BE operating systems)
[03:06] <strategy> RickZilla, No problem :P
[03:06] <ScheissDrogen> steph3 : terminal
[03:06] <steph3> danke
[03:06] <steph3> ty*
[03:06] <ScheissDrogen> schon ok
[03:06] <carandraug> RickZilla: you can select burn iso with some utilities or mount it to a virtual drive and choose copy CD. Those ways are correct. If you open the iso and just copy the files to a CD, that's not the correct way
[03:06] <ScheissDrogen> !gr
[03:06] <bastid_raZor> vock; it would be best to come up with a well crafted password. more than 10 letters with numbers and letters.
[03:06] <ScheissDrogen> !de
[03:06] <steph3> whats tjhe exactly cmd in terminal to open it?
[03:06] <dvlper> any help on apt-get source
[03:07] <dvlper> ?
[03:07] <Strav> argh I'll do some more google on my resume from suspend problem.
[03:07] <steph3> drogen ty , but i use english language on ubuntu
[03:07] <Bsims> Strav: heh yeah true enough, but do you know what sold me on linux? I asked for help in a mailinglist with a problem, got a response within 30 minutes BY the guy who wrote the program
[03:07] <ScheissDrogen> steph3 : see pm
[03:07] <Nigra4justice>  irc.partyvan.fm
[03:07] <steph3> ty
[03:07] <Nigra4justice> FUCKING
[03:07] <tj83> dvlper, what are you trying to install?
[03:07] <Nigra4justice> ]GOD DAMNIT
[03:07] <FloodBot1> Nigra4justice: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:07] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:08] <pirate> I'm having a problem with my fstab. I have two hard drives. However, they seem to argue about which one is sda and which is sdb. One has a partition I want to always mount at a certain point, the other I could care less about. Both are NTFS. Can someone help me out?
[03:08] <vock> bastid_raZor: thanks for your help, and now i have a long winded passwd to type everytime i need to sudo
[03:09] <carandraug> Bsims: yes. That's one of the best things from Linux and it's often overlooked by new users
[03:09] <tj83> pirate, /join #ubuntu
[03:09] <pirate> ... I'm in that room, I believe
[03:09] <tj83> pirate, /join #seaphor i mean
[03:09] <bastid_raZor> vock; that is better than having your system compromised.
[03:09] <tj83> lol
[03:09] <Bsims> carandraug: you know how in pan you can drag and drop collumn layouts? that was my idea
[03:10] <Bsims> Sorry seeing my name in the changelog sold me for life
[03:10] <bastid_raZor> !sudo > vock: read this. it may give you some hints.
[03:11]  * Bsims laughs been windows free from 2000
[03:11] <carandraug> Bsims: hehe! That's good for the ego as well. I had to google what pan is 'cos I don't use it.
[03:12] <Bsims> carandraug: used to stand for pimp ass newsreader
[03:13] <Bsims> carandraug: what got me was I can explore and learn as deep as I want
[03:13] <Bsims> If I care I can look and see why it does what it does
[03:13] <bastid_raZor> vock; since ubottu is lagging:: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[03:14] <Ice_Max> I having problems with my download manager, its saying Could not download all repository indexes
[03:14] <vock> bastid_raZor: thanks for everyting
[03:14] <Wii60> So, I've got one of the wierder tech support questions if someone wants to give it a shot
[03:14] <Bsims> Ice_Max: it happens try again in a bit
[03:14] <Bsims> Wii60: go for it
[03:15] <carandraug> Bsims: I started with it just 'cos I wanted something different. I stayed 'cos I enjoyed to know how things actually work, like you
[03:15] <steph3> brb
[03:15] <Wii60> Well, I'm running ubuntu on my old Gateway M680, I installed because windows locked up no BSOD, just froze, after about 5 mins of use
[03:15] <Wii60> also the USB ports didn't work
[03:15] <Bsims> carandraug: heh only reason I'm on ubuntu? at the time my hd died, ubuntu had a working installer and sid was in one of its you cant upgrade modes
[03:15] <harushimo> hey everyone
[03:16] <Bsims> this was back when woody? I think was stable
[03:16] <harushimo> question
[03:16] <Wii60> I'm running Ubuntu, just fine, after many reinstalls of windows, so obviously its hardware, but what makes ubuntu work here and not windows?
[03:16] <shakaponk> hey guys
[03:16] <Ice_Max> its saying this as well
[03:16] <Ice_Max> "Failed to fetch http://98111.free.fr/apt/dists/gutsy/free/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[03:16] <Ice_Max> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead."
[03:16] <Ice_Max>  and every time i check it does it, its been doing it for a while.
[03:16] <vock> bastid_raZor: now i wish i picked a better username as well
[03:16] <FloodBot1> Ice_Max: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:16] <harushimo> my internet is cutting out on ubuntu. I don't understand why
[03:16] <harushimo> I checked my router. the traceroute and ping is working
[03:16] <Bsims> Wii60: sounds like your motherboard died, does it work under linux?
[03:16] <Wii60> yeah works great under linux, but no USB support
[03:16] <noah> harushimo: what doesn't work?
[03:17] <carandraug> Bsims: I started with Ubuntu but then tried archlinux. Still using it in another computer. I found it best to learn. But we're getting a bit offtopic now
[03:17] <Bsims> Hrm could be the controler, go into bios and disable usb if you can
[03:17] <bastid_raZor> vock; you can always create a new user.
[03:17] <harushimo> I think the NIC card isn't functioning properly
[03:17] <harushimo> it works now
[03:17] <Wii60> ok, I'll give that a go, thanks man
[03:17] <tonsofpcs> what's a NIC card?
[03:17] <magnatop> nic card is redundant :)
[03:17] <magnatop> :)
[03:17] <harushimo> your right it is redundant
[03:17] <magnatop> :)
[03:18] <harushimo> nic card is integrated with motherboard
[03:18] <Bsims> Wii60: hey no problem
[03:18] <Bsims> Wii60: I got my mainboard from newegg
[03:18] <harushimo> how can test for it
[03:18] <harushimo> you*
[03:18] <Bsims> they and the forums on line can steer you to one that works with linux and newegg has a good return policy
[03:18] <vock> bastid_raZor: If i made a new user, copied everythign from the old home directory to the new home directory, would that be effectively just chaning the user names, or would i need to do something else?
[03:18] <Ice_Max> what does it mena when it says this
[03:18] <harushimo> pidgin always get disconnected. if I'm watching a video, its buffers a very long time
[03:18] <usser> vock, nope thats about it
[03:19] <shakaponk> i'm a linux beginner, and i've installed on a ubuntu server edition vm x window with install ubuntu-desktop and then uninstalled it... now i have an ubuntu recovery menu after shutdown... what does it mean and how can i remove it?
[03:19] <usser> vock, the only thing i'd just in case is change ownership of your home
[03:19] <Bsims> shakaponk: hrm means it left grub installed
[03:19] <Ice_Max> Failed to fetch http://98111.free.fr/apt/dists/gutsy/free/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[03:19] <harushimo> what would be a solutions for that
[03:19] <Ice_Max> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:19] <Bsims> shakaponk: did you install over windows?
[03:19] <HillmN> wats up everyone
[03:19] <harushimo> or an idea whats going on
[03:19] <bastid_raZor> vock; right create the new user copy your current /home/user to home/newuser then chmod the file to the newuser and you're basically done.
[03:19] <Bsims> Ice_Max: nothing to worry about means that one is down
[03:20] <Ice_Max> how do i remove it?
[03:20] <shakaponk> Bsims: sorry cant follow you. i've installed in a clean ubuntu server apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and then apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[03:20] <bastid_raZor> vock; chmod the /home/newuser directory that is.. chmod -R newuser /home/newuser
[03:21] <harushimo> i'm just trying to think do I need to get a new mobo or not
[03:21] <Bsims> Ice_Max: you mean the entry entirely
[03:21] <harushimo> thats why
[03:21] <Ice_Max> assuming i can update fine without, yeah
[03:21] <Bsims> shakaponk: Hrm try reinstalling ubuntu-desktop
[03:21] <bastid_raZor> vock; you would need to do that with sudo also. then add the newuser to the admin group and anything else your previous user was apart of.
[03:21] <usser> bastid_raZor, vock thats actually chown -R newuser:newuser /home/newuser
[03:21] <Bsims> Ice_Max: you will be able to
[03:21] <Bsims> Ice_Max: apt is smart
[03:21] <shakaponk> Bsims: but i don't want the desktop...
[03:22] <Eleaf> How can I save wireless networks that have hidden essids?  I have to re-enter the wpa key every time I unsuspend my laptop ;S.
[03:22] <Bsims> shakaponk: somethings may depend on it
[03:22] <bastid_raZor> usser; technically the group doesn't matter but it can't hurt.
[03:22] <Bsims> edit init to not start x then
[03:22] <^Phantom^> would 8 gigs be sufficient enough for a fixed-size virtual hard drive for ubuntu?
[03:22] <ChrisULM> when I boot my computer, the normal ubuntu boot screen loads up but then it goes to scrolling text instead of the nice loading bar. The system boots up fine, but how do i go back to the normal boot splash?
[03:22] <Bsims> ^Phantom^: yeah
[03:23] <shakaponk> Bsims: is there a possibility to remove them? i want the server like it was after the installation
[03:23] <strategy> ^Phantom^, ubuntu needs around 4GB, so that'll be good enough for ubuntu + some programs
[03:23] <yates> what isn't my .bash_profile getting executed?
[03:23] <Bsims> shakaponk: that will install it back just as it was
[03:23] <Bsims> Hrm I am assuming you don't want xserver?
[03:23] <shakaponk> Bsims: no
[03:24] <^Phantom^> i was considering 12
[03:24] <ChrisULM> anyone know how to replace the boot screen?
[03:24] <Ice_Max> Bsims: i found it in the 3rd party tabs in the software sources manager, its safe to uncheck it right?
[03:24] <strategy> ^Phantom^, depends on if you'll need more than 4GB of applications
[03:24] <Bsims> shakaponk: apt-get reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[03:24] <Bsims> shakaponk: then apt-get uninstall xorg
[03:24] <yates> what isn't my .bash_profile getting executed? this is when popping up an xterm
[03:25] <adiabatic> Is there a program included with Ubuntu that'll reformat and set up to automount a new HD that I just installed?
[03:25] <^Phantom^> but 8 seems more practical for the amount of data i moved from my internal hdd to my external
[03:25] <Bsims> Ice_Max: correct, or if you want I can tell you how to do it manually
[03:25] <Bsims> adiabatic: gparted
[03:25] <adiabatic> thanks
[03:25] <ScheissDrogen> !repeat | yates
[03:25] <^Phantom^> all of it backed up, some moved
[03:25] <shakaponk> Bsims: thx, i'll try
[03:25] <^Phantom^> it was like 30-40 gigs
[03:26] <yates> SheissDrogen: added info - sorry for th e repeititiontiontiontiontiontion... :)
[03:26] <Ice_Max> Bsims: Nah, as long as everything updates Ok the way it is now thats fine.
[03:26] <mal3> what's the console command for restricted manager?
[03:26] <yates> ubottu: i love you
[03:26] <ScheissDrogen> adiabatic:use gparted
[03:26] <yates> ubottu: .bash_profile
[03:26] <adiabatic> ScheissDrogen, Bsims: thanks
[03:26] <Bsims> Not a problem ya all
[03:26] <yates> ubottu: bash
[03:26] <harushimo> one more question, does dban for i386 work with core 2 duo
[03:27] <^Phantom^>  i'll go with 10 :D
[03:27] <strlng> I just installed Ubuntu server but for some reason when doing an apt-get update all the index files are returning 404s
[03:27] <ScheissDrogen> mal3 : sources. list is the files determines your software-base
[03:27] <Bsims> harushimo: i386 will work with anything later than and including an intel 386 you tell me
[03:27] <ScheissDrogen> file
[03:27] <harushimo> isn't core 2 duo under i486 or later
[03:28] <Ice_Max> One more thing; is there any way to make it so that when i press the mouse wheel down i can move the mosue up or down to scrool through documents or web pages?
[03:28] <harushimo> i386 were the late 90's processor like pentium
[03:28] <harushimo> that's what I'm wondering
[03:28] <hdevalence> WHere would I request an application be added to the Ubuntu repositories?
[03:28] <Bsims> harushimo: No I mean intell 386 pentium is 586
[03:28] <ScheissDrogen> harushimo: you're asking 'bout 64 or 32 bit
[03:28] <subone> Does anyone know if there's a way to make the gnome-panel flash brighter and more noticable when a window needs my attention?
[03:28] <Bsims> so it will work
[03:28] <harushimo> yeah
[03:29] <Bsims> harushimo: I beleve the default is still 32 bit
[03:29] <harushimo> I have core 2 duo which I think 64 bit
[03:29] <Bsims> but a core 2 duo can be either
[03:29] <Bsims> what version of ubuntu did you install 32 or 64
[03:29] <^Phantom^> i have put 512mb ram as base memory for the linux virtual hd, will that be sufficient for most applications to run smoothly
[03:29] <harushimo> ubuntu 64
[03:29] <Bsims> ^Phantom^: should be
[03:29] <Rev> hi
[03:29] <harushimo> i know that
[03:29] <ScheissDrogen> harushimo: 32 is still better supported and 64 only brings a slighty advantage until you want to run tons of ram
[03:30] <Bsims> then its 64 bit all in how that app was compiled
[03:30] <bastid_raZor> harushimo; even if it is 64bit .. 64bit Ubuntu has many issues that an intermediate user will have trouble with. it is recommended to use 32bit for less hassle.
[03:30] <Rev> I just tried to change my fonts under xfce, and now, letters dont appear anymore in firefox on some sites
[03:30] <Rev> like they do in google news, but they dont in facebook
[03:30] <Rev> any idea?
[03:30] <Rev> i tried to restore the original police, without any chance
[03:30] <harushimo> oh okay...I'm doing a reinstall, so its better to have 32 bit even with a core 2 duo processor
[03:30] <harushimo> that's what I'm understanding
[03:30] <^Phantom^> 512 is half my ram
[03:31] <arooni> can someone tell me how i can get a microsoft wireless laser mouse 6000 to get its back/forward buttons working correctly (in firefox to go back/forward but also in nautilus to navigate folders etc)?  right the back button on mouse = middle button, and forward button = right click.
[03:31] <anthony> hello. Got questions about my graphics card driver setup. Any takers?
[03:31] <^Phantom^> (i will be upgrading to 2gigs of ram soon)
[03:31] <^Phantom^> (when i finally get enough money saved up :D)
[03:31] <david73> hi all
[03:31] <ScheissDrogen> anthony : hich card ?
[03:31] <ScheissDrogen> !hi
[03:31]  * fserve Looking for notebooks com vga BOA por menos de 2k, PVT : P
[03:31] <ScheissDrogen> anthony : which card ?
[03:32] <harushimo> i've been using ubuntu 64. I haven't had any problems but I have problems with 8.10
[03:32] <anthony> thanks scheiss
[03:32] <bringatowel> !es | fserve
[03:32] <pirate> I'm having a problem. Sometimes when I boot up my computer my partition I want fstab to mount is sda2, other times it's sdb2. Why does it seem to randomly swap?
[03:32] <anthony> I have an via motherboard with an s3 prosavage8 chipset on board
[03:32] <SaraSmith> where can i download ubuntu 8.4 ? (assuming there isn't a kubuntu)
[03:32] <Bsims> ^Phantom^: unless you are using more than 4gigs of ram 32bit will suit you nicely
[03:32] <david73> just installed it the other day
[03:32] <bringatowel> !uuid | pirate
[03:32] <fserve> bringatowel, sorry, was a /amsg thing
[03:32] <^Phantom^> 32bit it is
[03:32] <khin> whenever i click a text file gnome / nautilus says "blah is an executable text file. Would you like to run it or display it." How do I set things so that it always displays it ( .py files should display in emacs, for instance... )
[03:32] <outbackwifi> hi there
[03:32] <^Phantom^> no 64bit processors
[03:33] <ScheissDrogen> pirate : removable drive, see bringatowel
[03:33] <bringatowel> fserve, hehe no prob, just trying to get you support in whatever language
[03:33] <cygoku> I screwed up big time.  My biggest resolution is now 640x480 instead of 1280x800 ! :( I am under a laptop with an ati x1400 card.
[03:33] <fserve> : )
[03:33] <fserve> portuguese btw
[03:33] <outbackwifi> khin: change file associations
[03:33] <fserve> but, dont worry
[03:33] <Ice_Max> is there any way to make it so that when i press the mouse wheel down i can move the mouse up or down to scroll through documents or web pages?
[03:33] <khin> outbackwifi where
[03:33] <fserve> i want buy a new laptop with a good gfx
[03:33] <ScheissDrogen> !who | anthony
[03:34] <ScheissDrogen> anthony : which card ?
[03:34] <Bsims> Ice_Max: in what browser?
[03:34] <bringatowel> fserve, ah lol yeah im not always able to tell those apart (at least not in 10 words or less)
[03:34] <Ice_Max> Bsims: Firefox
[03:34] <anthony> scheissDrogen: sysinfo identifies my graphics card as a VT8475 ProSavage8 km266/kl266
[03:34] <^Phantom^> is 512 enough for running video-editing applications on ubuntu?
[03:34] <Ice_Max> Bsism: doesnt work in any app actually
[03:35] <orionr> is there a way to download .debs using apt-get with out installing them?
[03:35] <Bsims> Hrm wierd
[03:35] <Bsims> orionr: I just use wget or firefox for that, why?
[03:35] <magnatop> alright, sweet, now i just have to figure out how to get out of 800x600 :)
[03:35] <flip> ok so after playing w/ my new laptop and ubuntu today for quite some time... i finally got wireless working; soft of
[03:35] <bringatowel> ^Phantom^, it should work, just depends what size videos, and how fast it will be processed, also what program you use
[03:35] <flip> i was using the wrong drivers.. and thinking it had a differant chipset then it actually does
[03:35] <cygoku> I screwed up big time.  My biggest resolution is now 640x480 instead of 1280x800 ! :( I am under a laptop with an ati x1400 card.
[03:35] <khin> anyone know how to make nautilus display my text files automatically instead of asking me whether they should be displayed or run as scripts
[03:35] <flip> i can connect to the ssid now ---- but i get no traffic
[03:35] <khin> this is kind of annoying
[03:36] <orionr> Bsims: our school has a matlab package it its repo but you can only install it if your oncampus and i have a friend who is off campus so i'm trying to get that for him.
[03:36] <captain> quick question, I just input "uptime" in terminal and along with the time it says 2 users. There are not 2 users, could that be because of my Virtual Machine?
[03:36] <bringatowel> orionr, have you tried octave or scilab?
[03:36] <orionr> its not for me but i believe the teacher requires matlab.
[03:36] <bringatowel> khin, are they set as executable for some reason?
[03:36] <Zikey> Hi, what command can i use to know if i run 8.04 or 8.04.1 ?
[03:37] <ScheissDrogen>  captain: root and standard user ?
[03:37] <flip> can anyone think of any reason i cant ping my router... although i have a static address and i am connected to the wireless ssid?
[03:37] <markys-l> captain: type "w" in the console to see who is logged in and where
[03:37] <bastid_raZor> Zikey; lsb_release -a
[03:37] <Zikey> thx bastid :)
[03:37] <khin> bringatowel if i click a text file i get a dialog that says, "Do you want to run blah, or display its contents? Blah is an executable text file."
[03:38] <captain> ScheissDrogen: sounds bout right, should have known thanks
[03:38] <bringatowel> captain, i have 2 logged in users, but im not running any vm
[03:38] <Bsims> orionr: download it next time you are on, and it will be in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[03:38] <captain> markys-l it was me twice, locations 0 and 0.0
[03:38] <bastid_raZor> caplink811_log; that is your GUI and terminal.. each show as a seperate entity of you running... i have 12 users atm
[03:38] <Prose> besides OSSEC, anyhthing required to have a safe ssh connection opened to the interwebs ?
[03:38] <bastid_raZor> captain; ^^^^
[03:39] <outbackwifi> khin: right-click on the file in nautilus, click on properties and open-with and then choose the preferred application eg gedit
[03:39] <bringatowel> khin, enable the permissions column in the file browser, or go to shell and type "ls -l" and see if they are set to executable
[03:39] <feles> Hello all
[03:39] <markys-l> captain: yep, tty7 is your gui
[03:39] <st3ph> :D
[03:39] <feles> Quick question really: Is it possible to install Windows after installing Ubuntu?
[03:39] <feles> (in a dual boot environment)
[03:39] <captain> markys-l awesome, knew there was a simple answer, thanks
[03:39] <flip> feles: sure
[03:40] <flip> feles: after you install windows though --- youll have to use the ubuntu cd to reinstall the grub boot mangaer
[03:40] <feles> Most walkthroughs I'm finding are talking about having windows installed first
[03:40] <feles> ooh, ok
[03:40] <flip> feles: its easier to install windows first... but totally not required.
[03:40] <Ikarius> hey folks... I just read the ubuntu wiki on compiling packages and found a few bits of the documentation insufficient. anyone willing to help me with what I need to do to build an 8.10 package for 8.04?
[03:40] <Bsims> Ikarius: sure let me google
[03:41] <Ikarius> I hope it's not as simple as google... I found the wiki page with that
[03:41] <Bsims> Ikarius: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ch-first.en.html#s-dh_make then http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ch-build.en.html
[03:41] <Ikarius> I read that Bsims
[03:41] <flip> in 8.04 when i connected to my wireless lan... i had an applet showing the reception up top (this is a stock install) all of a sudden its back to the 2 black monitors and i have no connectivity
[03:41] <flip> how do i get it back?
[03:41] <Bsims> Ikarius: so its dh_make --createorig; then sudo dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[03:42] <Bsims> Ikarius: then dpkg -i whatever.deb
[03:42] <Bsims> er sudo dpkg
[03:43] <cygoku_> Huh hello ??
[03:44] <cygoku_> I have a laptop that can no longer be in 1280x800 resolution, I am stuck at 640x480
[03:44] <Ikarius> trying the dh_make route... I was reading docs on the pbuilder route
[03:44] <khin> bringatowel i typed ls -l and it includes x ... but i want to be able to execute text files potentially ... i just don't want it to ever happen from nautilus
[03:44] <Ikarius> pbuilder route looked a bit... heavyweight
[03:44] <patrickmn> cygoku_: shy do you think you are stuck at that resolution?
[03:45] <patrickmn> *why
[03:45] <cygoku_> patrickmn : I don't know, I guess that's why I am here no ?
[03:45] <bringatowel> khin, hmm not sure about that, what i would do is chmod them all to disable execution, then you can still execute them from the command line using "sh filename"
[03:45] <Kai_wp> I see this video I'm trying to play in both VLC and Totem Movie Player both display it interlaced. I don't think it's supposed to appear like this. Is there anyway to de-interlace it?
[03:46] <starn_> can anyone help me really fast? for my ubuntu keeps locking up.... and its a fresh install and freshly updated
[03:46] <Kai_wp> I didn't notice the interlacing in Windows, so it's either that it's playing it interlaced when it shouldn't be, or in Windows it was de-interlaced.
[03:46] <cygoku_> ...
[03:46] <khin> bringatowel how would i disable it for all text files
[03:46] <patrickmn> cygoku_: have you went into the system > preferences > screen resolution and tried to change it?