[11:27] <ubotu> arnducky: No idea
[11:27] <arnducky> !processes
[11:27] <ubotu> arnducky: I give up, what is it?
[11:27] <sabmann> no result:(
[11:27] <Xenguy> !bot
[11:27] <ubotu> I'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to xenguy? I think not. Bot, got, chicken... rhyming sucks.
[11:27] <arnducky> Tell us about init.d ubotu
[11:27] <intelikey> mattsm i read inittab but you said init.d   my bad.
[11:27] <arnducky> ubotu, tell us about init.d
[11:27] <Madpilot> arnducky: you can /msg ubotu if you want to experiment
[11:28] <mattsm> intelikey, well i think i understand what you are saying...
[11:28] <arnducky> I'm trying to get it to answer a question in here -- sorry if it seems like flood
[11:28] <intelikey> mattsm what exactly are you wanting to accomplish ?
[11:28] <arnducky> I assumed it would have something on daemons
[11:29] <arnducky> mattsm, daemons usually run non-interactively and are monitored by the system to restart (or whatever is supposed to happen) if they hang/freeze/crash or are killed
[11:30] <Madpilot> arnducky: ubotu knows all sorts of things...
[11:30] <arnducky> you can call stuff with cron, anacrom (or other)
[11:30] <Madpilot> !info apache2 breezy
[11:30] <ubotu> apache2: (next generation, scalable, extendable web server), section web, is optional. Version: 2.0.54-5ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 33 kB, Installed size: 80 kB
[11:30] <arnducky> or exec them 'manually'
[11:30] <mattsm> arnducky, I understand... all I need to do is run some bash script at a VERY early stage in the boot process
[11:30] <jcath> hello
[11:30] <jcath> how to add kde to ubuntu?
[11:31] <jcath> may I just add kubuntu to sources.list?
[11:31] <sethk> jcath, in synaptic there is a package category for it.
[11:32] <sethk> jcape, just select that category (this is in advanced), which brings up a list on the right.  Select the entire list and mark it for installation
[11:32] <Madpilot> !tell jcath about kubuntu
[11:32] <arnducky> mattsm do you have a bootloader that can see a 'recovery [kernel] ' option?  If so, I'd play around at the *end* of inittab | minitab.  To be honest, I don't know if it's supposed to be used that way....
[11:32] <sethk> jcath, it was 247 packages this morning, so don't try to do it one by one.
[11:32] <intelikey> mattsm using the scripting facilities of sysvinit  it is easy to control the way your *nix boots.    for that you should make them all one(if that is not to hard) script and put it in /etc/init.d/   call it anything you like.   then ln -s /etc/init.d/your.sh /etc/rcS.d/00your.sh
[11:32] <snadge> if you want to build a custom kernel in ubuntu, you're better off installing the kernel manually?
[11:32] <arnducky> man | info [/etc/inittab]
[11:33] <sethk> arnducky, the standard (grub) bootloader allows kernel arguments, and even allows them to be entered at boot time.
[11:33] <arnducky> intelikey, is sysvinit included with Ubuntu?
[11:33] <intelikey> if it's not sysv what is it ?
[11:33] <arnducky> Oh, right, TY sethk (that's easier, though grub docs are abit 'oblique' compared to init()'s)
[11:33] <jcath> thanks
[11:34] <sethk> arnducky, whichever is easier, but to me ...
[11:34] <intelikey> arnducky so does lilo if you don't use grub
[11:34] <arnducky> ewww
[11:34] <jcath> god, 148MB for kubuntu-desktop
[11:34] <mattsm> intelikey, that was my plan exacally =)
[11:34] <arnducky> Woah, now.  I never said I don't use grub (I don't /cd .. from /home without it!)  hehehe...
[11:35] <jcath> hope I can finish before I back home
[11:35] <arnducky> setlame()=5
[11:35] <arnducky> ;-)
[11:35] <intelikey> in fact so does loadlin.exe if you boot from a dos floppy or something.
[11:35] <arnducky> I've had LILO b0rk on me about a half dozen times now
[11:36] <arnducky> I've never tried MBR though
[11:36] <intelikey> i've never had any trubble booting lilo..... but my junk is old.....
[11:36] <arnducky> jcath, try blackbox (based on fluxbox)
[11:37] <arnducky> (If you want small, it's oinly 500kB -- no kidding*)
[11:37] <arnducky> ((*not counting X11 + xdm of course))
[11:37] <intelikey> and the deps....
[11:38] <jcath> ah, that is ,some one today told me that now KDE is better then Gnome, less system requirement needed, so I want to have a try
[11:39] <arnducky> intelikey, it doesn't seem to... err depends ~23MB of crap and maybe that can be paired down by custom compiling non-mesa,  'one-font-pony tricks'
[11:39] <robotgeek> arnducky: flux was based on blaox
[11:39] <intelikey> mattsm be sure to chown & chmod your new init script.   that is a good place to add a rootkit..... ~_-
[11:39] <redxninja> what are some good softwares to test and play with?
[11:39] <robotgeek> arnducky: blackbox
[11:39] <[Jonne] > redxninja: neverball ;)
[11:39] <mattsm> intelikey, ha thanks =)
[11:39] <arnducky> robotgeek, U'blaox'?  ahhh soo -- I thought it was the otehr way around
[11:39] <ookami> how difficult is it to setup apache server to just host a very basic website?
[11:40] <robotgeek> arnducky: typing with one hand, with a touchpad is tough
[11:40] <jcath> it is very easy, ooKami
[11:40] <arnducky> personally I hated enlightment, never got icewm or ratpoison to work
[11:40] <ookami> anyt security issues i have to worry about?
[11:40] <redxninja> [Jonne] , that game is just way too hard
[11:40] <arnducky> robotgeek, no keyboard at all?
[11:40] <intelikey> didn't get icewm to work .... lol
[11:40] <redxninja> try fvwm
[11:40] <arnducky> scree-layout virtual kbd?
[11:40] <intelikey> twm
[11:41] <redxninja> or vtwm
[11:41] <robotgeek> arnducky: ah, i meant with a touchpad in the way
[11:41] <ookami> im coming close and closer to eliminating my windows partition...games and certain fansubbing software is whats keeping me back..
[11:41] <jcath> ha, I have finished download the kde packages, and it installing now
[11:41] <arnducky> Oh you poor laptop owner.... ;-)
[11:41] <[Jonne] > redxninja: it pwns
[11:41] <arnducky> ;-D

[11:42] <ookami> AH! that reminds me! is there any fansubbing software like Substation Alpha, or VisualSubSync that works in linux... anyone aware of?
[11:42] <Madpilot> ookami: what is "fansubbing"?
[11:42] <LinuxN00bie> placing subtitles in movies
[11:43] <redxninja> [Jonne] , naw, foobillard pwns harder
[11:43] <ookami> translating untranslated films/anime and adding subtitles, karaoke with special effects and so on......
[11:43] <arnducky> jcath, Kubuntu KDE on Ubuntu Breezy~ seems to kick the crap out of Gnome on Debian Etch (same kernel)
[11:43] <LinuxN00bie> like naruto
[11:44] <arnducky> (I mean I wait less for apps and to exec)
[11:44] <jcath> arnducky, I just test it
[11:44] <redxninja> anyone tried firefox 1.5?
[11:44] <jcath> arnducky, I like gnome because it is not so complex like KDE to me
[11:45] <arnducky> But it's still 'bloated' unless you edit it and they took out some of my fabvourite features like the window 'roll-up' and 'show desktop' out of the 'vanilla' inst.
[11:45] <jcath> arnducky, and I'll try blackbox, 2. thanks for your suggestion:)
[11:45] <Madpilot> arnducky: KDE doesn't have a "show desktop" button? that's a bug...
[11:46] <intelikey> it's kinda odd comming from the colour of pinguin i run that kde would be more mb's than gnome it is the other way here.
[11:46] <intelikey> Madpilot it does here.  i always delete it.
[11:46] <arnducky> For instance, if I choose debconf debut=5 and 'expert' mode  I want to be asked before having #^$ing K[everytic-tac-toe-game-under-the-solaris]  installed!
[11:47] <arnducky> errr debug
[11:47] <indigirl1> jcath, fluxbox better than gnome and kde
[11:47] <indigirl1> ookami, or dont use apache for simple
[11:47] <indigirl1> intelikey, icewm is awesome
[11:47] <indigirl1> [Jonne] , i see no package called neverball
[11:47] <indigirl1> redxninja, of course. its good. firefox irc is on irc.mozilla.org #firefox
[11:48] <arnducky> Madpilot, this thing did hang during install then also I got an SMP kernel pkg between two psot-install reboots that I never told apt-get or Synaptic to even look for.
[11:48] <[Jonne] > indigirl1, you probably need universe or multiverse
[11:48] <intelikey> i like icewm ok,  but it's like gnome to me, to windowish.
[11:48] <indigirl1> [Jonne] , probably do okay
[11:48] <redxninja> firefox 1.5 has auto update. I wonder how that would work in linux
[11:48] <jcath> indigirl1, ok , i'll install it, 2
[11:48] <jcath> :P
[11:49] <arnducky> It didnt' run right until I had booted to 'recovery (mode)' once (whereupon I quickluy made a root password and reisntalled gak -- heh)
[11:49] <onkarshinde> When will we see OOo2 updated in breezy to the final version?
[11:50] <arnducky> intelikey, I like having MORE (ala premium UNIX wkstn xwindow style) eyecandy and widgets
[11:50] <bimberi> onkarshinde: not sure, but there is ...
[11:50] <bimberi> !ooo2
[11:50] <ubotu> Test packages for OpenOffice.org 2 are available - http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html
[11:50] <intelikey> arnducky thats nice.
[11:50] <wickedpuppy> ooo <--- looks like the alien's eyes in chicken little
[11:51] <wickedpuppy> but then its off topic ... forgive me
[11:51] <LinuxN00bie> ...
[11:51] <arnducky> Errrm, I can do without 'pure' eyecandy like see-through menus and accelerated 3dD 'twilight fog' rasterized vector font garbage though
[11:51] <bimberi> wickedpuppy: :)
[11:52] <arnducky> intelikey, what makes Icewm 'windowsy', but not  'Gnome'?
[11:52] <intelikey> but not gnome ?
[11:52] <intelikey> read me post again,   i said they are both too windowish for me....
[11:53] <intelikey> of course x hasn't been started here in a day or two......
[11:53] <onkarshinde> Does anyone know if by any chance SeaMonkey (previously Mozilla Suite) will get backported to breezy?
[11:53] <arnducky> intelikey, liberate soon-to-be-former slaves of the Evil Empire (tm)(R) ?!?
[11:54] <indigirl1> !backport
[11:54] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports.
[11:54] <intelikey> yep.
[11:55] <arnducky> "You can take the (MS) WinDOH!s away from the lusers but you can't take lusers away from (some kind of) windows."
[11:55] <yintelike> GNU-GPL or fight.   that my moto.
[11:55] <arnducky> And without 'desktop' (consumer/corp-drone) marketshare, geeks will suffer too.  Think about it, pelase.
[11:56] <yintelike> GNU-GPL or fight.   that my moto.
[11:56] <jcath> anyone has experience with linphone and fwd account?
[11:56] <indigirl1> you must get in a lot of fights
[11:56] <wickedpuppy> yintelike, what about apache ?
[11:56] <jcath> how to setup fwd account in linphone?
[11:56] <arnducky> yintelike, howabout the BSD license or the Mozilla license or OSI's proposed replacement(s) for GPL2?
[11:56] <ookami> what port does ubuntu listen on for remote desktop connections?
[11:57] <arnducky> ookami, depends on if it's using vino (Gnoime/Debian VNC)
[11:57] <bob_4_a_day> indigirl1 no i don't use a lot of software :)
[11:57] <raphink> the ubuntu wiki preferences won't save for me :(
[11:57] <bimberi> ookami: 5900 (iirc)
[11:57] <bob_4_a_day> wickedpuppy apache ?
[11:57] <wickedpuppy> yup
[11:57] <arnducky> ookami, try starting the server and then doing # netstat -Ln
[11:57] <raphink> I can't set my prefered local time, css theme and language :(
[11:58] <ookami> arnducky, will do
[11:58] <bob_4_a_day> clue me in wickedpuppy
[11:58] <wickedpuppy> apache isn't released on gpl ... its on their own license ..
[11:58] <arnducky> (or -ln)
[11:58] <arnducky> l or L = listening
[11:58] <arnducky> n = numeric
[11:58] <bob_4_a_day> oh... heh i'v never installed it. i didn't know....
[11:59] <ookami> whoa! is it normal to have so many ports open?
[11:59] <arnducky> ookami, I like to compile VNC from src fopr control-freakish/edj00ficational/security-paranoia reasons
[11:59] <arnducky> ookami, yep
[11:59] <arnducky> try man netstat
[11:59] <wickedpuppy> bob_4_a_day, you don't listen to mp3 too i gather ?
[11:59] <arnducky> I think -t will filter out all the UNIX dom socks
[12:00] <arnducky> same as '--tcp'
[12:00] <bob_4_a_day> lol ookami unless you harden your box a little it is....
[12:00] <bob_4_a_day> wickedpuppy no actually i'v never seen an mp3 file
[12:01] <indigirl1> warty->hoary upgrade encountered errors
[12:01] <bob_4_a_day> wickedpuppy i do listen to some stuff i've recorded to ogg though.
[12:01] <arnducky> cat /eeetc/netwrok/protocols for a poortlist loosely based on RFC 1700+, ookami
[12:02] <indigirl1> Errors were encountered while processing: discover1, ubuntu-base
[12:02] <ookami> arnducky, cat: /eeetc/netwrok/protocols: No such file or directory
[12:02] <bob_4_a_day> arnducky your stturing
[12:02] <`6og> lol @ arnducky
[12:03] <arnducky> I jsut upgraded kkkkkeyboard(sic) hhahahahaaaa
[12:03] <arnducky> ookami, sorry /etc/....
[12:03] <`6og> o_0
[12:03] <`6og> network/
[12:03] <`6og> ;)
[12:03] <ookami> speeding up the keybaord repeat rate too fast ;)
[12:04] <bob_4_a_day> repete rate has nothing to do with that.  it would be delay time
[12:04] <ookami> true. my mixup.
[12:04] <arnducky> Well the aulde original IBM ps/2 AT/XT keyboard (no joke) I had on this machine...
[12:05] <arnducky> together with the crap-OEM logitech wireless NothingeXtra(tm)
[12:05] <ookami> will linux allow more than one user loged into a machine in a remote desktop session?
[12:05] <arnducky> ookami, yes
[12:05] <arnducky> be vewey, vewey cawefuh wif dat
[12:06] <arnducky> bob_4_a_day, AT to ps/2 dongle or AT controller too!?!
[12:06] <bob_4_a_day> AT all the way
[12:06] <ookami> arnducky, what about if both users are the same? person a using ookami account..... person b trying to use ookami account as well?
[12:06] <ajitabhpandey> join #debian
[12:06] <bob_4_a_day> well that's was colorful
[12:07] <arnducky> ookami, please don't try it except at (your LAN) home (side of gateway with all incoming XDCMP and SSH proto blocked)
[12:08] <`6og> ookami: then it's not as good (using x)
[12:08] <arnducky> ookami, default behaviour (remote shell enviro config) in UNIX (incl. Debian, which Ubuntu is bsed on) is to allow multiple concurrent logins
[12:09] <`6og> arnducky: but multiple users logged in at one time with the same x session is not. not sure how vnc works with it
[12:09] <arnducky> ookami, unless you are an experienced (and cluefull) sysadmin I would RUN RUN RUN AWAY from that scenario
[12:09] <ookami> ah ok. im really worried about the security aspect of it... i want to use that feature, but i dont know what all can go wrong. so i have a lot to learn
[12:09] <arnducky> `6og, it is using XDCMP
[12:09] <ookami> im not experienced at all... (im flying in from XP...so you can imagine my habits ;)
[12:10] <arnducky> ookami, VNC is your friend then and mk sure you RTFunkyM
[12:10] <Hentai^XP> lol
[12:10] <`6og> arnducky: oh... ookami, start running ;)
[12:11] <`6og> securing X is the hard bit, not getting connections going
[12:11] <Hentai^XP> ookami ? for you why you coming from xp exactly?
[12:11] <ookami> will i be able to access linux machine from an XP machine using its remote desktop client?
[12:11] <Hentai^XP> ookami can you doin #ubuntu-offtopic and awnser that there?
[12:11] <arnducky> ookami, yes
[12:12] <arnducky> TightVNC is my present choice and it even has a web applet
[12:12] <arnducky> so you don't even need a local client (so long as you can conf Apache + Java using VNC howtos -- hehehe )
[12:13] <arnducky> (i.e. it's a java applet and it has a downloader)
[12:14] <EvilDucky> It's jsut like 'trojanning' yourself (I.e deliberately d/ling netbus/sub7/backofifice)
[12:14] <EvilDucky> All of which were (more or less) initially intended for 'legitimate' remote desktop xs, BTW
[12:15] <intelikey> netbus  heh
[12:15] <ookami> arnducky, im clueless as to what that means.
[12:15] <ookami> :)
[12:16] <`6og> ookami: he's a clever dick ;)
[12:16] <`6og> he's/shes/it's
[12:16] <intelikey> he sheits ?
[12:16] <EvilDucky> ookami, oops, I shold have clarified "using a *VNC* remote desktop client writeen for Win(Su)XP", not using M$'s Remote Assistance
[12:17] <EvilDucky> ie TightVNC for win32
[12:17] <EvilDucky> `6og, whom were you referring to just now?
[12:17] <`6og> EvilDucky: arnducky
[12:18] <topyli> are those words too?
[12:18] <EvilDucky> I haven't been any kind of Dick since Pinkerton's fired my tail in the late 80's
[12:18] <intelikey> never mind.
[12:18] <EvilDucky> ewww
[12:18] <`6og> to much info IMHO :P
[12:18] <intelikey> ear
[12:19] <`6og> oh, your mouse ;P
[12:19] <intelikey> no ear
[12:19] <intelikey> you dirty minded persons
[12:19] <`6og> :$
[12:19] <EvilDucky> Good thing Linux4hymanBeans mutual-respect-manifesto says nothing explicit in respect of non-G-rated explicitness
[12:20] <EvilDucky> err ~hymen~~/human/ho00min
[12:20] <`6og> lol. but i do think that's what -to is for  ;)
[12:20] <`6og> *-to
[12:20] <intelikey> himem
[12:20] <`6og> hm.
[12:20] <`6og> * -offtopic
[12:20] <`6og> damn spelling corrector
[12:20] <EvilDucky> innuendo will get you banned in many channels
[12:21] <`6og> mm.
[12:21] <EvilDucky> (and  =<13 will get you 5-10 in .us)
[12:21] <`6og> um. what was that last code snippet?
[12:22] <EvilDucky> we should make an Evil KickBot and name it 'innuendo'
[12:22] <`6og> lol
[12:22] <EvilDucky> and another called 'association'
[12:22] <EvilDucky> banned (association)
[12:22] <intelikey> ah irc where mem are men,     and women are men,    and children are fbi agents....
[12:22] <Madpilot> intelikey: :D
[12:22] <`6og> hi Madpilot :)
[12:23] <EvilDucky> intelikey, FOoMChROtehFLMLiddleFeatheredTailO
[12:25] <EvilDucky> Xenguy, I used to hang in a channel where we had a dozen 'biatch-bots' named after the .us intel/lawenforc ctty alphabet soup to do our attention-whjoring for us -- hehehe!
[12:25] <EvilDucky> |usss|; |fbi|; |cia| etc
[12:26] <`6og> heh
[12:26] <EvilDucky> intelikey, we'va actually told people  to ping -f <IP_ADDRESS> and seen them lag out!
[12:26] <`6og> hahahaa
[12:26] <intelikey> :)
[12:26] <EvilDucky> (well, a bit more than that, but you get the idea)
[12:27] <veki> how I can install codecs to watch movies on Ubuntu?
[12:27] <intelikey> !codecs
[12:27] <ubotu> from memory, codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil. You can get them by going to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, and looking for "The Codecs". Another possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[12:27] <veki> thanks I will go there immediatelly
[12:28] <intelikey> wow dl'ing lots of warez from localhost.localdomain now......
[12:28] <EvilDucky> veki, that's a really broad quesation.  Do you want to watch (commercial) DVD; pty quicktime/realplayer/shockwave/WinblowsMedia formats... what?
[12:29] <`6og> Breezy's help is helpfull ohn that front btw
[12:29] <EvilDucky> j00 are the man p|-|RUM  "J00.U.4.R.3.Z", intelikey
[12:30] <EvilDucky> I r ph1n|< 4ll uR sh3||Z 2  the |\/|@N~!!! ZOMG!
[12:31] <intelikey> sorry EvilDucky i anit quite g33k nough to grab that one..... not that i really tried.....
[12:31] <EvilDucky> FGS, autoreplace fixed 'teh' with the and ruined my beautifull l337
[12:32] <EvilDucky> `6og, do it with snort and tcpwrapper -- more phU|\| 4 u!
[12:32] <Peter> :/
[12:32] <EvilDucky> seriously though, check out wwwoffle on sf.net
[12:32] <`6og> EvilDucky: nice idea. ... tcpwrapper :P
[12:33] <EvilDucky> squid is overblown to do something like just filter leet
[12:33] <`6og> EvilDucky: so? ;) i can also use it for something like, um. dunno. caching web pages? :P
[12:33] <EvilDucky> <--- lookit the |\|ikknaym3 d00dz, lookit he nickname!
[12:33] <EvilDucky> hehehe
[12:35] <EvilDucky> What joo mean`6og, your ISP doesn't do that?!?  Then you need X-Wine + MicrosoRft Winblow j00niX IASS 2003!
[12:35] <`6og> <brain implodes>
[12:36] <EvilDucky> now scuse me while I go take my anti-psychotic-troll medz...
[12:36] <`6og> heh
[12:37] <intelikey> mount -t thoughtfs /dev/EvilDucky's/brain  /dev/null -o loop,remount,noread
[12:38] <arnducky> `6og, seriously now, .... ZOMG j)kes writen in bash -- you want me to have to change my undies!
[12:39] <arnducky> 'noread' was a nice touch
[12:39] <intelikey> :)
[12:39] <`6og> for i in $( arnducky); do $i < /dev/zero; done
[12:39] <acvardar> Hi! I am have prepared a GUI application running on ubuntu, but to make it faster i want to make it independent of gnome. which x environment should i use, or can i make it running without x environment?
[12:39] <ookami> is there a way to create a zip file in ubuntu? im seeing it wants to create a .tar.gz
[12:39] <intelikey> yep the greeks are taking over around here......
[12:40] <arnducky> but did you consider using using an FQD and then jsut /dev/brain  (you'd have to escape ('\') the  accent otherwise
[12:40] <`6og> acvardar: you can use gtk or x libs, if it's a gui app it cant run without a gui :|
[12:40] <arnducky> like make it into an rlogin or rsh line
[12:40] <`6og> ookami: gunzip
[12:40] <Black_Hat> ive got a question
[12:40] <`6og> (iirc)
[12:41] <Black_Hat> can i use debian repositories safely in ubuntu?
[12:41] <`6og> no
[12:41] <intelikey> Black_Hat no
[12:41] <arnducky> acvardar, you can but it's abit tricky
[12:41] <`6og> you can use them with a level of risc
[12:41] <Black_Hat> does ubuntu have unstable source trees?
[12:41] <Madpilot> ookami: you have to start Archive Manager to create zip
[12:41] <acvardar> '6og: do i need to consider somethign else to run qt gui application that has opengl ?
[12:41] <intelikey> Black_Hat dapper
[12:41] <Black_Hat> dapper?
[12:41] <`6og> acvardar: I'm not sure. I'm not a programer
[12:42] <`6og> Black_Hat: ubuntu unstable
[12:42] <`6og> (for the moment)
[12:42] <arnducky> acvardar, first you need to either kill or modify your DM (or it gets even more complicated)
[12:42] <pistolero> plz someone can help me to install nvidia video drive?
[12:42] <demon_> hi
[12:42] <acvardar> what is dm ?
[12:42] <demon_> pistolero can you read german?
[12:42] <bimberi> !dapper
[12:42] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[12:42] <intelikey> Black_Hat what would you want newer than the stable repos ?
[12:42] <bimberi> !nvidia
[12:42] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:42] <Black_Hat> but i cant use unstable sources with breezy or whatever the latest stable release is? or i can again with a level of risk?
[12:43] <arnducky> `6og, can you guys insult my attention-whoring self in regexp and perl too?
[12:43] <demon_> which kernel version is in breezy badger
[12:43] <pistolero> demon_,  no.. im brazilian.. i can only speak in english
[12:43] <demon_> k
[12:43] <bimberi> demon_: 2.6.12
[12:43] <demon_> thx
[12:43] <arnducky> paz, amiche/amigo
[12:43] <intelikey> Black_Hat breezy just released a month ago....
[12:43] <arnducky> Paz, eperance e amor!
[12:43] <`6og> `6og: good regex and any perl is beond me :)
[12:43] <demon_> and after the 12 9 or 10
[12:43] <`6og> * arnducky ^ last comment
[12:43] <arnducky> err 'esperance'
[12:44] <pistolero> !nvidia
[12:44] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:44] <Black_Hat> intelikey but its ubuntus most recent stable release
[12:44] <`6og> (said it to myself :|
[12:44] <arnducky> `6og, I think you're the one that has a loop going... yeah
[12:44] <demon_> and after the 12,  9 or 10
[12:44] <intelikey> yeah and the dapper is on month newer....
[12:44] <bimberi> demon_: uname -r   ->  2.6.12-9-386
[12:44] <pistolero> in the instalation of the nvidia video drive, it says that i dont have kernel-source
[12:44] <Black_Hat> i want to use unstable source lists
[12:44] <Black_Hat> basically
[12:44] <Black_Hat> if that makes sense
[12:44] <demon_> 2.6.12-9 or 2.6.12-10
[12:44] <intelikey> then run dapper
[12:44] <demon_> thx bimberi
[12:45] <bimberi> demon_: but i have an update pending, let me check ...
[12:45] <Black_Hat> intelikey: and if i choose to run breezy? am i again operating with a certain level of risk?
[12:45] <arnducky> `6og, seriously (as I was going to say before the shell jokes), have you tried scanning your ISP to discover a transparent proxy?
[12:45] <yannux> someone already use ndiswrapper 32 bit with 64 bit ubuntu ?
[12:45] <intelikey> well breezy is supposed to be stable.... but there are a few bugs...
[12:45] <bimberi> demon_: aha, 2.6.12-10 is available
[12:46] <ogra> yannux, that wont wok
[12:46] <ookami> anyone know how to generate an MD5 checksum for someone on the other end of receiving the file?
[12:46] <yannux> ogra, Oo ? :s
[12:46] <`6og> arnducky: no i havent. i havent bothered. they have a huge mirror. don't think they proxy as well
[12:46] <Black_Hat> intelikey so i can run unstable on breezy if i wanted?
[12:46] <ogra> yannux, you cant run 32bit drivers with 64 bit kernels
[12:47] <ogra> yannux, you need a 64bit driver
[12:47] <arnducky> With modern browsers doing very aggressive cacheing, I hardly think it's worth it to run squid if you have a both cheap *and* smart ISP largeenough to have other Linux surfers..
[12:47] <yannux> ogra, arf, because windows driver for my wificard does not work with ndiswrapper64bit
[12:47] <intelikey> Black_Hat with less trubble than using deb debs  yes.
[12:47] <`6og> arnducky: i have a server here running squid, i just keep forgetting to point my gear to use it
[12:47] <bimberi> ookami: md5sum <file>
[12:47] <`6og> and it needs some serious config tweaks
[12:47] <arnducky> I bet some of the really big broadband providers have sf.net virtually mirrored, just to economize on Penguin byte transfer
[12:48] <ogra> yannux, what kind of card is this ... i have broadcom working fine here ...
[12:48] <arnducky> `6og, lol
[12:48] <Noobish> http://tnt-ownz.net/   visit us, enjoy
[12:48] <Noobish> http://tnt-ownz.net/   visit us, enjoy
[12:48] <yannux> ogra, INPROCOMM IPN 2220
[12:48] <arnducky> 'absent mynded perfesser', huh?
[12:48] <njan> arnducky, mine mirrors most major distro update sites
[12:48] <arnducky> Spamish!
[12:48] <intelikey> !spam
[12:48] <ubotu> intelikey: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:48] <`6og> arnducky: my ISP has about 1TB of linux - probably more
[12:48] <`6og> mirrored
[12:49] <ogra> yannux, http://www.planetamd64.com/index.php?showtopic=6559&st=0&p=62758&
[12:49] <arnducky> njan, how many LAN client hosts?
[12:49] <ogra> yannux, i got that link myself yesterday, havent tested it yet
[12:49] <Black_Hat> intelikey so is there an ubuntu unstable source tree?
[12:49] <njan> arnducky, tbh I wouldn't think sourceforge was high-bandwidth for most ISPs
[12:49] <arnducky> how many lusers?
[12:49] <njan> arnducky, how many? I have no idea. Lots.
[12:49] <ogra> yannux, acer lappie ?
[12:49] <`6og> arnducky: they have all of Debian, ubuntu, fedora, mandriva, and others (slack and gentoo i think)
[12:49] <njan> arnducky, www.blueyonder.co.uk
[12:49] <Noobish> http://tnt-ownz.net/   visit us, enjoy
[12:49] <xukun> for my work i need to connect a server using ssh but before that I have make a vpn tunnel , but when I,m running firestarter I get  "Temporary failure in name resolution"  if I try to connect the server using ssh
[12:51] <arnducky> Ahhh, a friend of mine is the founders 'nephew' in .uk.  I keep forgetting to get contact info.  Are they still filtering active FTP and other gak at their DSLAMs?
[12:52] <`6og> a mate has a buisness account with my ISP, and they are shaped to a 1MB connection over http, but ftp is allowed the full 10MB connection they have to the ISP
[12:52] <`6og> so they do all their downloads over ftp ;)
[12:52] <arnducky> I actually had a murder-suicide threat by one of their lusers once in a channel I used to opp and Blueyonder operations staff actually had a flying squad dispatched on my say-so.  I was really impressed.
[12:52] <`6og> the bastard has a 10MB link directly into the ISP's backbone network
[12:52] <yannux> ogra, I test, acer aspire
[12:52] <C-O-L-T> Help me please! I have just installed kubuntu and i can not access my windows file system. How can i make that. pls help me
[12:53] <Elchbulle> Hi
[12:53] <bimberi> !mountwindows
[12:53] <ubotu> [mountwindows]  Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically)
[12:53] <intelikey> !ntfs
[12:53] <ubotu> I guess ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:53] <intelikey> C-O-L-T ^
[12:53] <ogra> yannux, same here :) aspire 1520
[12:53] <Elchbulle> Could it be that Ubuntu 5.10 is a alphaversion?
[12:53] <Beleys> Bonjour
[12:53] <C-O-L-T> thanks
[12:53] <arnducky> The kid said he had access to a shotgun and was known to have a violent past.  They took my traceroute and whois data at face value, as well as answering the phone with a human being.
[12:53] <`6og> Elchbulle: no
[12:53] <intelikey> beta maybe ?
[12:54] <Elchbulle> Oh it act as one
[12:54] <`6og> 5.10 is stable
[12:54] <arnducky> Who can upstate ubotu
[12:54] <`6og> anyone
[12:54] <`6og> syntax is 'ubotu something is what it is'
[12:55] <Black_Hat> ubotu where can i find unstable source lists
[12:55] <ubotu> Black_Hat: Not a clue
[12:55] <Black_Hat> haha
[12:55] <Black_Hat> k
[12:55] <arnducky> (N) (T) stands for 'New Technology', and was based on/developed concurrently with  IBM HPFS but MS also paid Northern Telecom regardign use of the initials 'NT even though you can't trademark a pure acronym in the USA.
[12:55] <Elchbulle> 6og I installed it 2 hours on a compaqworkstation with a usbkeyboard on, now I try to login but after the I pressed the first key it stops accepting any more keys
[12:56] <Black_Hat> ubotu where can i download dapper
[12:56] <ubotu> Black_Hat: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:56] <Black_Hat> ubotu what is the location of dapper
[12:56] <Elchbulle> so is a usbkeyboard not supported?
[12:56] <ubotu> Black_Hat: what are you talking about?
[12:56] <yannux> ogra, hum seems not good
[12:56] <`6og> Black_Hat: no no no
[12:56] <mindlace> !kernel
[12:56] <`6og> it's !tell me about something
[12:56] <`6og> Elchbulle: sure the keyboard is plugged in?
[12:57] <`6og> i have had no problems with using apple keyboards on my pc (non apple)
[12:57] <dvius> aftertaf! wasup
[12:57] <arnducky> Black_Hat, Ubuntu doesn't have the same release system as Debian with Sid always being Unstable, they try to release every six months like clockwork
[12:57] <Elchbulle> Yes. In the installation it worked
[12:57] <C-O-L-T> Help me again! I am new in Linux and I can not make it. How to see WinXP partition under KUBUNTU
[12:57] <ajus> my fat16 usb disk can't be read in breezy... help please
[12:57] <Hobbsee> !tell C-O-L-T about mount
[12:57] <Seveas> C-O-L-T, system -> administration -> disks
[12:57] <arnducky> wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:57] <`6og> arnducky: tell the bot like this:
[12:57] <C-O-L-T> yes
[12:57] <`6og> hi Hobbsee
[12:57] <mindlace> any (easy) way to replace the existing kernel on the install iso with a more recent one?
[12:57] <`6og> ubotu: NT is  (N) (T) stands for 'New Technology', and was based on/developed concurrently with  IBM HPFS but MicroSoft also paid Northern Telecom regardign use of the initials 'NT even though you can't trademark a pure acronym in the USA.
[12:57] <ubotu> okay, `6og
[12:57] <`6og> !NT
[12:57] <ubotu> it has been said that nt is (N) (T) stands for 'New Technology', and was based on/developed concurrently with  IBM HPFS but MicroSoft also paid Northern Telecom regardign use of the initials 'NT even though you can't trademark a pure acronym in the USA.
[12:57] <Seveas> mindlace, no, and it would be baf
[12:58] <Elchbulle> `6og in the installation the keyboard works well
[12:58] <Black_Hat> arnducky so its really pointless then to even try and find an unstable source list for apt to use in ubuntu?
[12:58] <Hobbsee> hi `6og
[12:58] <arnducky> hmmm, I hope the old entries are cached
[12:58] <Hobbsee> !tell Black_Hat about repos
[12:58] <mindlace> baf, Seveas?
[12:58] <intelikey> yes Black_Hat that's what i said way ^ up there.
[12:58] <Seveas> mindlace, ?
[12:58] <`6og> btw Hobbsee, it's kamping_kaiser ;)
[12:58] <Seveas> bad
[12:58] <Seveas> not baf :)
[12:58] <arnducky> I wouldn't want to replace anything usefull with something merely trivial -- nor a well-written entry with bac grammar.
[12:58] <`6og> hi Seveas :)
[12:59] <Hobbsee> ah, i was wondering who it was!  why arent you using your regular nick?
[12:59] <mindlace> The thing is, my RAID isn't detected in 2.6.12
[12:59] <mindlace> but it is in 2.6.13+
[12:59] <`6og> Hobbsee: i join another channel using this nic, and instead of doing my usual join, i just expanded with this one
[12:59] <Black_Hat> ahhh ok. and that link was exactly what i needed
[12:59] <Black_Hat> thanks!
[12:59] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[12:59] <`6og> :)
[12:59] <mindlace> so I was hoping to change the install disk to have a better version of the kernel...
[12:59] <arnducky> I think this was the most likely part of the entry To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPar
[01:00] <Elchbulle> Anyone know why USB Keyboards arent supported by Ubuntu?
[01:00] <mindlace> they are, elchbulle.
[01:00] <MrFarts> Elchbulle, aren't they ?
[01:00] <`6og> Elchbulle: i have had no problems
[01:00] <Elchbulle> NO!
[01:00] <intelikey> Elchbulle they aren't ????
[01:00] <MrFarts> Elchbulle, i'm pretty sure they are :)
[01:00] <arnducky> Also we should mention ntfsprog pkgy (provides ntfstools SA ntfsmount ntfsfix ntfsresize which are integrated in parted now)
[01:00] <Elchbulle> Its a normal cherryusbkeyboard with NO extras
[01:00] <mindlace> The wireless microsoft usb keyboard worked just find
[01:00] <mindlace> fine
[01:00] <Elchbulle> MrFarts you are wrong
[01:01] <MrFarts> Elchbulle, i don't think so :)
[01:01] <Seveas> Elchbulle, usb keyboards are supported
[01:01] <Seveas> or else these words could not have been typed
[01:01] <Madpilot> Elchbulle: a friend even has a wireless kb & mouse that work fine
[01:01] <Elchbulle> Why does it STOP working after I type the first letter?
[01:01] <MrFarts> Elchbulle, maybe you have something weird going on in the BIOS
[01:01] <Elchbulle> Mouse still works
[01:01] <`6og> Elchbulle: i have had 2 (usb) apple keyboards and my ps2 keyboard plugged into my pc at one time
[01:01] <`6og> all working fine
[01:02] <arnducky> Speaking of keyboards, ahs anyone played around with getting fancy keys to work (like the home, calculator, browsing and multimedia functions)?
[01:02] <Elchbulle> 6og doenst help me here
[01:02] <MrFarts> arnducky, i haven't played around with the, but they all work
[01:02] <mindlace> it looks like I'll have to take (yet another) drive, install the OS to it, then install a newer kernel on it, then move everything to the raid array
[01:02] <`6og> fraid not Elchbulle
[01:02] <`6og> arnducky: on my multimedia keyboard some work
[01:02] <`6og> some don't (ms multimedia kbd)
[01:02] <mindlace> which I was kind of hoping to avoid.
[01:02] <Elchbulle> So what to do?
[01:02] <Seveas> Elchbulle, try another USB port, if possible with no other usb appliances plugged in - just to test
[01:03] <MrFarts> mindlace, raid array ?
[01:03] <Elchbulle> Seveas I will try
[01:03] <Elchbulle> bbl
[01:03] <MrFarts> mindlace, you have an array of RAIDS ? :)
[01:03] <arnducky> MrFarts, how do I do it?  (If nothing pre-exists) Is there an XKPB ruleset builder GTK2+ mod or anything yet?
[01:03] <mindlace> thbbt.
[01:03] <MrFarts> arnducky, i have no idea; i don't use those keys anyway
[01:04] <intelikey> <--- usb ignorant,  are usb kbds hotplugable ?
[01:04] <`6og> intelikey: yes
[01:04] <intelikey> k
[01:04] <`6og> arnducky: you can set keys with the 'setkey code keybinding' IIRC
[01:04] <`6og> or similar
[01:05] <C-O-L-T> Help somebody to me! I am new in linux and I have installed KUBUNTU but I can not access my windows file system. I use Win Xp. I am now in System - Administration-Disks
[01:05] <C-O-L-T> Guide me please
[01:05] <arnducky> setkey_code() <-- a TCL or Perl (or whatever) FN()?
[01:06] <arnducky> BBIAB -- will look for NICKNAME prefaced posts upon return
[01:06] <C-O-L-T> elp somebody to me! I am new in linux and I have installed KUBUNTU but I can not access my windows file system. I use Win Xp. I am now in System - Administration-Disks
[01:06] <MrFarts> C-O-L-T, you need to mount the disk
[01:06] <C-O-L-T> yes
[01:06] <Seveas> C-O-L-T, system -> administration -> disks
[01:06] <C-O-L-T> but how?
[01:06] <`6og> arnducky: [4568923.194000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[01:06] <`6og> ^ from my dmesg
[01:06] <Seveas> you can mount them there
[01:06] <C-O-L-T> but hoq
[01:06] <C-O-L-T> w
[01:06] <C-O-L-T> I have never done something like that
[01:06] <C-O-L-T> I use windows for 10 years
[01:07] <Elchbulle> ahh okay ubuntu cant handle two usb devices. Lucky I have still a ps/2 mouse here
[01:07] <Myrtti> :-o
[01:07] <C-O-L-T> elp somebody to me! I am new in linux and I have installed KUBUNTU but I can not access my windows file system. I use Win Xp. I am now in System - Administration-Disks
[01:07] <Seveas> Elchbulle, Ubuntu can perfectly fine handle that
[01:07] <intelikey> Elchbulle yeah it can
[01:07] <Seveas> unless one of the devices is vroken
[01:07] <C-O-L-T> Help somebody to me! I am new in linux and I have installed KUBUNTU but I can not access my windows file system. I use Win Xp. I am now in System - Administration-Disks
[01:07] <Seveas> C-O-L-T, do you even listen?
[01:07] <Elchbulle> Seveas not really, Seveas with suse it runs perfectly
[01:07] <`6og> C-O-L-T: don't spam
[01:07] <C-O-L-T> Yes i Listen
[01:07] <Myrtti> And repeating the question when we perfectly heard it the first time sure does help
[01:08] <C-O-L-T> I am in administration disks
[01:08] <C-O-L-T> what to do then?
[01:08] <Seveas> Elchbulle, try dmesg after it errors out and see what that gives
[01:08] <Madpilot> Elchbulle: I've got three USB devices running right now, all just fine, and I've had up to five at one point...
[01:08] <Elchbulle> mom
[01:08] <pistolero> hey..
[01:08] <ompaul> C-O-L-T, wait until someone tells you - they are busy with others
[01:08] <ompaul> !tell C-O-L-T about ntfs
[01:08] <C-O-L-T> but how much
[01:08] <Seveas> Elchbulle, if you put the dmesg output on the pastebin we can all have a look :)
[01:08] <Seveas> C-O-L-T, go to 'partitions', select your partition and set the 'access path'
[01:09] <DelPede> I can't get NIS working in Ubuntu 5.10. Didn't have any problems in 5.04. The client will not bind to the ypserver. Anyone got any clues?
[01:09] <`6og> bbl. hacking a wikipage
[01:11] <cliebow__> anyone have thoughts on segmentation fault with kppp in breezy??i have lucent drivers built and modem woich is not exactly friendly for this windows centric user switching overrks in wvdial..wh
[01:11] <cliebow__> sorry laptop has gone yoda again
[01:13] <cliebow__> anyone have thoughts on segmentation fault with kppp in breezy??i have lucent drivers built and modem works in wvdial..network-admin seems not to initiate dialup sequence..kpp segfaults
[01:13] <ookami> why would i have email if i have not even set up an email account yet? according to GKrellM i have 8/8 mail...
[01:14] <ookami> but i cant see them...
[01:14] <pistolero> how do i install warcraft III in ubuntu ?
[01:15] <Elchbulle> Okay Ubuntu isnt working. I get back to SuSE or maybe I try the originall debian for a working system.
[01:15] <Elchbulle> I will maybe try ubuntu when it isnt still alpha
[01:16] <b_e_n_z> Elchbulle, good bye dummy
[01:16] <Elchbulle> b_e_n_z muahaha
[01:16] <bob_4_a_day> b_e_n_z be nice...
[01:16] <WebLOCH> Hey guys, can anyone assist me in installing automake-1.7 and/or give reference materials ?
[01:16] <pistolero> how do i install warcraft3?
[01:17] <Hobbsee> WebLOCH: what problems are you having with it?  sudo apt-get install automake1.7
[01:17] <WebLOCH> pistolero, thats covered in the User Documentation : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraftHowto
[01:17] <bob_4_a_day> WebLOCH 'sudo apt-get install build-essentual '
[01:17] <Hobbsee> that too
[01:18] <Seveas> b_e_n_z: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[01:19] <WebLOCH> Hobbsee, bob_4_a_day : sorry guys my bad, made a spelling mistake before, everythings loading now
[01:20] <Hobbsee> WebLOCH: :)
[01:20] <C-O-L-T> I have problem with autoconfiguring partitions
[01:21] <MrFarts> C-O-L-T, you have a problem with a lot of things
[01:21] <C-O-L-T> probably
[01:21] <C-O-L-T> I will delete ubuntu
[01:21] <WebLOCH> Does anyone know if Luminocity will be part of GNOME any time soon?
[01:21] <shorty> hah, why? :P
[01:21] <MrFarts> C-O-L-T, sounds like a plan
[01:21] <C-O-L-T> iT IS TOO HARD FOR ME
[01:21] <shorty> bwahahah
[01:21] <shorty> you're not trying
[01:22] <shorty> computers aren't for everyone. :P
[01:22] <bob_4_a_day> MrFarts ?
[01:22] <C-O-L-T> Anyway thanks
[01:22] <Shorty_> but seriously though
[01:22] <Shorty_> what problems are you having?
[01:22] <MrFarts> Shorty_, general retardation
[01:22] <C-O-L-T> I can not configure my windows partitions
[01:23] <bob_4_a_day> MrFarts who put a bur under your saddel ?
[01:23] <Shorty_> configure them how
[01:23] <Yannick_R> hello
[01:24] <Yannick_R> I have some troubles ever since I compiled my <IP_ADDRESS> kernel
[01:24] <MrFarts> bob_4_a_day, how long have you been in the channel /
[01:24] <MrFarts> bob_4_a_day, he's been spamming for the last 20 minutes or so
[01:25] <Yannick_R> my usbkeys and cdrom are not longer automounting, and if I start under the ubuntu kernel it works
[01:25] <Dark_Sith> hello peeps
[01:25] <Yannick_R> I was wondering, maybe I forgot a patch or a module, could you guys help me ?
[01:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> Yannick_R: check you compiled in usb support
[01:26] <Yannick_R> I can mount my key with command line, mount /dev/sda1 /media/key
[01:28] <WebLOCH> Hobbsee, this script is telling me i need to install zlib, but doesnt specify which libraries, apt-cache search returns a whole bunch, don't suppose you have any suggestions?
[01:28] <Hobbsee> WebLOCH: what are you compiling?
[01:29] <WebLOCH> Hobbsee, luminocity
[01:29] <dvius> im back. wasup
[01:29] <bob_4_a_day> say
[01:30] <dvius> hey aftertaf...
[01:30] <bob_4_a_day> haven't see aftertaf all morning....
[01:30] <dvius> ah well
[01:30] <dvius> ta
[01:30] <borup> WebLOCH: btw luminocity is not likely to ever be part of gnome - thats the point of it
[01:30] <Hobbsee> WebLOCH: not much of an expert on this, but try zlib1g
[01:31] <blizzkid> Lo all. Anyone knows about a way to get incoming call alerts from a mobile phone in gnome?
[01:31] <dvius> u running asterisk?
[01:31] <dvius> blizzkid: u runnin asterisk
[01:31] <dvius> ?
[01:31] <blizzkid> dvius: can you run asterisk on ubuntu?
[01:32] <blizzkid> I thaught it was a seperate distro?
[01:32] <WebLOCH> borup, its got a few pages on the gnome project site, I assumed it would eventually make it into gnome
[01:32] <dvius> mmm, probably, but wouldnt recommend using it on your everyday pc. best to setup on standalone apparantly,
[01:33] <dvius> nah asterisk isnt a seperate distro, you install ontop of another... asterisk@home is whole distro though
[01:33] <bob_4_a_day> !info asterisk
[01:33] <dvius> but strom reckons it sux
[01:33] <ubotu> asterisk: (open source Private Branch Exchange (PBX)), section universe/comm, is optional. Version: 1:1.0.9.dfsg-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1061 kB, Installed size: 2992 kB
[01:33] <WebLOCH> Hobbsee, already installed it seems to think
[01:33] <blizzkid> dvius, I tried kmobiletools, but once connected, after 15 seconds the connection is lost. gnome-phone-manager doesn't connect at all, and btcid sits there and doesn't do a thing
[01:33] <borup> WebLOCH: bits of it will
[01:33] <bimberi> dvius: no, it's a software package, available in a universe repository near you
[01:34] <Hobbsee> WebLOCH: zlib1g-dev
[01:34] <bimberi> dvius: oops, missed your last post :)
[01:34] <blizzkid> and does asterisk offer call alerts for bluetooth phones?
[01:35] <WebLOCH> Hobbsee, cheers, that did the trick
[01:35] <Hobbsee> WebLOCH: :D
[01:35] <borup> WebLOCH: but luminocity is a toy, purely proof of concept (check the readme its funny)
[01:35] <Hobbsee> WebLOCH: i did an apt-cache search for zlib dev and that was one of the things that came up
[01:35] <WebLOCH> Hobbsee, at least i assume it did, screaming terminal output is a dubious way of showing "success"
[01:35] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:36] <nydust> hey. I am running the live cd on a laptop, and i need to mount the HD. But when i mount it to /mnt i dont have permissions to read.. why=
[01:36] <WebLOCH> Hobbsee, yeah I saw it earlier but made assumptions about the 'lg' on the end, which is where i went wrong
[01:36] <Hobbsee> *nods*
[01:36] <nydust> what is the root password on the live cd?
[01:36] <arkanes> WebLOCH: use jhbuild to compile Luminocity and it's dependencies, it knows what to do
[01:37] <blizzkid> bimberi, does asterisk offer call alerts for bluetooth phones?
[01:37] <WebLOCH> arkanes, I did, it keeps prompting me with problems, that zlib was one of them
[01:37] <bob_4_a_day> nydust mount it -o umask=0       and root passwd.... use user passwd.
[01:37] <WebLOCH> arkanes, now i have a new one refering to a bunch of unment dependancies :P
[01:37] <nydust> how do i enable the root account?
[01:37] <dvius> well gotta go...gotta tru and get this bloody nvidia to work... good luck blizzkid
[01:37] <WebLOCH> arkanes, which dont appear to be available in apt
[01:37] <dvius> *try
[01:37] <bimberi> blizzkid: don't know sorry
[01:37] <blizzkid> ty dvius
[01:38] <bob_4_a_day> nydust you would have to set a root passwd.    'sudo passwd '
[01:38] <dvius> np blizzkid
[01:38] <arkanes> WebLOCH: well, zlib is zlib-dev, and it's quite enormously common
[01:38] <arkanes> so perhaps jhbuild assumes that you already have it
[01:39] <WebLOCH> arkanes, that wasnt the zlib library it was after, i did have it
[01:39] <bob_4_a_day> system wont load without zlib
[01:40] <arnducky> 0x e02a = %____ (decimal hex)
[01:40] <arkanes> WebLOCH: it almost certainly was that zlib library, it just didn't know how to find it
[01:40] <arnducky> ubotu: NTFS is the (N)ew(T)echnology(F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Microsoft's Windows NT; 2000; XP; Media Center; and Server2003 (tm) operating systems. It was developed concurrently with and uses the same partition schema (type 0x07) as IBM's HPFS (H)igh (P)erformance (F)ile (S)system. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions.  NTFS support und
[01:40] <arnducky> er Linux is provided by the Debian package, which is maintained by Linux-NTFS Project found at ntfsprog http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ (formerly hosted at http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/).  [Freenode #Ubuntu Ubotu wiki revised by arnducky [Wed 23-NOV-2005 0540h MST]  (GMT-7h)]  ***Comments or hat/e-mail may be addressed to <4 |) |\/| 1 |\| @arnducky.net>***
[01:40] <ubotu> ...but ntfs is already something else...
[01:40] <bob_4_a_day> if you don't beleive it check what depends on it.
[01:40] <arnducky> hmmmm...
[01:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubotu: forget ntfs
[01:41] <ubotu> i forgot ntfs, Kamping_Kaiser
[01:41] <WebLOCH> arkanes, well I didnt tell it how to, so unless the system worked it out, by itself, you are wrong
[01:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubotu: NTFS is the (N)ew(T)echnology(F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Microsoft's Windows NT; 2000; XP; Media Center; and Server2003 (tm) operating systems. It was developed concurrently with and uses the same partition schema (type 0x07) as IBM's HPFS (H)igh (P)erformance (F)ile (S)system. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions.
[01:41] <ubotu> okay, Kamping_Kaiser
[01:41] <arnducky> =oD
[01:41] <WebLOCH> arkanes, however after installing zliblg it worked... :P
[01:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[01:41] <arnducky> You actually liked it?!?
[01:42] <arnducky> !copyleft
[01:42] <ubotu> arnducky: What?
[01:42] <arnducky> there's one!
[01:42] <arnducky> hehehehe
[01:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh.. hpfs is esentialy irrelevent, but still
[01:43] <arnducky> Kamping_Kaiser, that part is for the history and business types
[01:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: sure, i didnt know that, but for the average user (who needs that help) it's basicly irrelevent to them
[01:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> infact, it is totaly irrelevent :)
[01:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> you can make an hpfs, but don't clog the bot to hard :)
[01:44] <arnducky> Probably, the ony usefull new info is the part that got gut off about NTFSTOOLS (nfsprog; libntfs;...etc.)
[01:44] <wickedpuppy> !zfs
[01:44] <ubotu> wickedpuppy: I don't know
[01:44] <wickedpuppy> ah someone gotta add zeta ...
[01:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: add one for ntfstools iff you want
[01:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> or i can readd ntfs
[01:45] <arnducky> Is ubotu content protectedfrom MS-style public domain raiding?
[01:45] <arnducky> !copyright
[01:45] <ubotu> arnducky: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:45] <ashwani> hi aimaz
[01:46] <arnducky> !gpl
[01:46] <ubotu> Wish i knew, arnducky
[01:46] <ashwani> aleksi hi
[01:46] <arnducky> !fsf
[01:46] <ubotu> arnducky: I haven't a clue
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> in what way?
[01:46] <arnducky> !osi
[01:46] <ubotu> arnducky: Wish i knew
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> domain raiding?
[01:46] <bob_4_a_day> !gnu
[01:46] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, bob_4_a_day
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: a short and sweet bit to add to ntfs entry regarding ntfstools pls
[01:46] <ashwani> DO ANYBODY KNOW HOW TO CONFIGURE CUPS SO THAT I COULD LOG WHO SENT WHAT PRINT JOBS AND HOW MANY PAGES
[01:46] <bob_4_a_day> link to the gnu web page ?
[01:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> don't shout
[01:47] <bob_4_a_day> gnu.org ?
[01:47] <ashwani> CUPS KNOWLEDGE REQUIRED
[01:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> don't shout
[01:47] <arnducky> AHhh, right and how about a chain reference from the end of the ntfs  entry --> ntfstools
[01:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: so far: NTFS is the (N)ew(T)echnology(F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Microsoft's Windows NT, 2000, XP, Media Center, and Server2003 (tm). To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions.
[01:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> you have about 1.5 lines for ntfs tools
[01:48] <snowowl> I think the Breezy kernel update screwed my LimeWire
[01:48] <salmenara> hi !!
[01:49] <salmenara> How can I listen to mp3 with totem?
[01:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[01:49] <snowowl> hello
[01:49] <bob_4_a_day> !gnu
[01:49] <ubotu> gnu is, like, totally, Like go read http://gnu.org and learn about free software.
[01:49] <arnducky> What's the char limit -- same as this server MAXLEN?
[01:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> salmenara: can i recomend an mp3 player for playing mp3s? ;)
[01:49] <arnducky> I have my text ed open with draft - it can cound lines or chars.
[01:49] <salmenara> xmms?
[01:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: not sure exactly it's *about* 5 or 6 lines
[01:49] <arnducky> -d/+t
[01:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> !ubotu
[01:49] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: check the limit there
[01:50] <arnducky> TYVM
[01:50] <snowowl> sal: you can find the information by typing "unofficial Ubuntu Guide" into your favorite search engine
[01:50] <arnducky> BBIAB
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> no
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> np
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorry, no no :$
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> salmenara: if your using Breezy look in the help, in the starter guide
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's in tere
[01:50] <snowowl> for xmms just apt-get install ffmpeg
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> *there
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> and you don't have to break your system with ubuntuguide
[01:51] <salmenara> Kamping_Kaiser: how can I edit the *.mp3 file association from totem to xmms ?
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> salmenara: if you install xmms it should do it by itself
[01:51] <nxv_> how do i install vim colorschemes?
[01:51] <salmenara> Kamping_Kaiser: Where is the starter guide?
[01:51] <arnducky> ahhh, mime types -- that could utilize it's own bot with a dedicated DB backend
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> salmenara: system -> help -> ubuntu 5.10 starter guide
[01:51] <arnducky> ;-)
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> no crap arnducky ;)
[01:52] <_jason> nxv_, try #vim
[01:53] <nxv_> _jason: no packages there in ubuntu ?
[01:53] <arnducky> hmmm... I want to put something in about fuse (since libntfs may be essentially useless w/o it for most luser(sic)).
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> fuse?
[01:54] <arnducky> Kamping_Kaiser, is it possible to get a dump of the bot
[01:54] <_jason> nxv_, i don't know
[01:54] <arnducky> 'Files Under User Space'?
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm.
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell arnducky about bot
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> there should be a list of what the bot knows on that page that got linked to
[01:55] <arnducky> kute but kryptik, Kamping_Kaiser
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> remember you can say 'or ask me about !ntfs tools'
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:55] <_jason> nxv_, I think you just cp the color scheme somewhere in ~/.vim but you are better off asking in #vim
[01:55] <arnducky> Are you a KDE/Kubuntu maven?
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> ~/.vimrc
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> me? nah
[01:56] <arnducky> Kamping_Kaiser is just kickier than Camping_Czar?
[01:56] <nxv_> and where do i get it? i have found a nice page with scheme demo but no download there: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~maverick/VimColorSchemeTest/index-c.html
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: have you seen counter stick? the flash animation?
[01:56] <arnducky> no (not yet...)
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's about a group of CS playing stick figures
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> ones called carl and he camps...
[01:57] <arnducky> I've seen stick figur pR0n...
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> I'm called Karl and i  play(ed) CS...
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:57] <bob_4_a_day> hmmmm crap!    mount: must be superuser to use mount    and ,users, is in the fstab.....  ?
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> what was the command you ran?
[01:57] <arnducky> (I Kuite liKed it aKtually)
[01:58] <crimsun> bob_4_a_day: beware that "users" is different semantically from "user"
[01:58] <bob_4_a_day> crimsun yeah i know.
[01:58] <arnducky> Kamping_Kaiser, are you a ubotu master?
[01:58] <crimsun> bob_4_a_day: in any case, pmount is more in line with what you want.
[01:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: no, i just know a few of the commands
[01:58] <arnducky> host-owner/admin?
[01:59] <bob_4_a_day> i don't think it is avalable here.
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: no, the bots open
[01:59] <ninou> i do not understand the network/interfaces file
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: http://www.stickpage.com/counterstickseries.shtml
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> ninou: what trips you up?
[01:59] <arnducky> But it *listened* to  you when you used 'forget' -- that seems sKarey.
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> (me throws away any concept of work tonight)
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[02:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> *musters dark forces*
[02:00] <bob_4_a_day> crimsun what package provides pmount ?
[02:00] <bimberi> Kamping_Kaiser: @2330? lol
[02:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. yeh.
[02:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> i was going to do some work on the wiki. (amoung other things)
[02:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> so much for that
[02:01] <crimsun> bob_4_a_day: 'pmount'
[02:01] <bimberi> Kamping_Kaiser: :)
[02:01] <bob_4_a_day> oh wait, removing the setuid bit on /bin/mount has caused this....  nm
[02:01] <amnezia> anybody has a slow usb mouse when copying from CD/DVD?
[02:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> bimberi: you in sa or nt?
[02:02] <bimberi> Kamping_Kaiser: act
[02:02] <amnezia> I am getting this on 2 totally different machines
[02:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> amnezia: i have a slow mouse, i think it's because of load
[02:02] <bob_4_a_day> thanks crimsun i was right it's not avalable to me.
[02:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> bimberi: huh? your not on central time :S
[02:02] <crimsun> !info pmount
[02:02] <ubotu> pmount: (mount removable devices as normal user), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.9.5-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 35 kB, Installed size: 608 kB
[02:02] <crimsun> it's in main
[02:02] <arnducky> ubotu: NTFS is the (N)ew(T)echnology(F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Microsoft's Windows NT, 2000, XP, Media Center, and Server2003 (tm). To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions.  For more details about NTFS support under Linux, see also: ntfstools. Copyleft 2005 the Ubuntu Community.
[02:02] <ubotu> ...but ntfs is already something else...
[02:02] <amnezia> Kamping_Kaiser:  no way. I never have slow mouse when booting my own custom kernel, not Ubuntu's
[02:02] <bimberi> Kamping_Kaiser: nope, aedt here.  Greetings from tomorrow :P
[02:02] <bob_4_a_day> but not in rpms for my distro.
[02:03] <bob_4_a_day> :)
[02:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> bimberi: lol :P
[02:03] <LinuxN00bie> hello, Canon MP 110 3 in 1 or HP 1410 3 in 1 which one is better for ubuntu?
[02:03] <crimsun> bob_4_a_day: the source is available in the repositories
[02:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> bimberi: i thought you must be central because of this line -> (23:30:19) bimberi: Kamping_Kaiser: @2330? lol
[02:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> exact same time ;)
[02:03] <arnducky> Kamping_Kaiser, I was referring to M$ stealing public domain software (i.e. 'MS' DOS)
[02:04] <bob_4_a_day> yes i could build it.    but i don't like doing that.    specially when there is other ways of getting to the same place.
[02:04] <bimberi> Kamping_Kaiser: ah, no i knew because of ...adl4.internode...
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: ah ok. i don't remember DOS being public domain
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> bimberi: ah, ok. ;) i didnt think of that
[02:05] <bimberi> Kamping_Kaiser: :)
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> you should jump on your roo some time and hop over for a barbie :P
[02:07] <bob_4_a_day> yep chmod +s /bin/mount now users can mount cdroms static mounting....  none of that automatic junk....
[02:07] <bob_4_a_day> :)
[02:08] <arnducky> The original authors never bothered to assert copyright when they released the precursor of MS-DOS and PC-DOS (which IS open Sourced by IBM) AFAIK which made it public domain.  Unfortunatly it's still 'open season' on 'informal' public domain even afer the advent of the Free Software Foundation (FSF) and Richard M. Stallman's aadvocacy.  This is why we bother to 'copyleft' things even when we don't intend to do 'commercial open sour
[02:08] <arnducky> ce'.
[02:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. ok.
[02:08] <arnducky> Another realated historical example is the .zip file format and the Pkware copyright infringement case.
[02:09] <bimberi> Kamping_Kaiser: roo = qantas :)
[02:09] <bimberi> ?
[02:09] <arnducky> Kamping_Kaiser, I've always wondered whether that is an emoticon or _whut_...
[02:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> bimberi: i was thinking the hoppers, but you know ;)
[02:09] <bob_4_a_day> hmmm when using 'eject -x# ' it must stay set even when disks are ejected.....   i didn't know that.
[02:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: yeh, emoticon
[02:09] <bimberi> lol
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> imangine japanese emoticons... mm...
[02:10] <arnducky> Whutzitmean, wutzitmean?
[02:10] <mathieudz> how can i find which package 'dos2unix' is in?
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: one eye realy open, one half open
[02:10] <arnducky> oh that anismiley gak
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> as in 'wtf'
[02:10] <bob_4_a_day> dos2unix is in dos2unix
[02:11] <arnducky> Like the .us Cartoon strip cat, Bill [Bloom County] ?
[02:11] <mathieudz> bob_4_a_day: hmm. ic. my archive listings are gone. needed an update first
[02:11] <bob_4_a_day> well not in ubuntu it seems...
[02:11] <bob_4_a_day> mathieudz it is install by default though.
[02:12] <michuk> hello
[02:12] <bob_4_a_day> you can do a apt-cache search dos2unix mathieudz to find it.
[02:12] <greedyb> hey guys, I'm using Ubuntu on a laptop and Ive installed the Nvidia Drivers.. I was wondering how I can get my S-Video out to work.  I really depend on it, the VGA out works just as normal but when I hit fn+f8 nothing switches.  Any ideas?
[02:12] <mathieudz> "Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "dos2unix"
[02:12] <michuk> i have a question. i hqve to windows systems on my hard drive now, win 2000 on c: (primary) and win XP on d (extended partition)
[02:12] <mathieudz> argh
[02:13] <michuk> i want to keep win XP and install ubuntu on my primary partition
[02:13] <michuk> is it safe?
[02:13] <JDahl> michuk, quite safe, I think
[02:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> michuk: should be ok
[02:13] <bob_4_a_day> michuk sure
[02:13] <aeon17x> michuk: you have to shrink the space available for winXP, but that's about it.
[02:13] <michuk> ok i'll blame you if something gets screwed up :)
[02:14] <bob_4_a_day> aeon17x ?
[02:14] <mathieudz> bob_4_a_day: still not found..
[02:14] <JDahl> michuk, the partition shrinker in the Ubuntu installer worked perfectly fine for me
[02:14] <michuk> so there's no problem with booting windows from grub while windows is on the extended partition?
[02:14] <aeon17x> bob_4_a_day: He said it was installed on his primary partition.
[02:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> aeon17x: depends how much space 2k had
[02:14] <arnducky> Yikes, the Sw0edish wikings are landing on the Ubuntu beach -- head for the hills!  (Women children and dux 1st!)
[02:14] <bob_4_a_day> JDahl ?
[02:14] <JDahl> bob_4_a_day, ?
[02:14] <arnducky> No1Viking
[02:14] <michuk> i just want to replace win2000 with ubuntu, no changes in partitions
[02:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> michuk: how big is your 2k parititon?
[02:15] <JDahl> michuk, that's even easier then
[02:15] <No1Viking> arnducky, yes?
[02:15] <arnducky> Ahhh, michuk I'm composing ntfs wiki as we chat
[02:15] <greedyb> anyone have any ideas about my s-video problem?
[02:15] <bob_4_a_day> yeah..... i dont know why these guys are trying to get you to break things michuk  ?????
[02:15] <michuk> Kamping_Kaiser: it's 28 GB
[02:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> greedyb: all i can sugest is look in the wiki for nvidia and svidoe, i remember something about it
[02:16] <arnducky> Your nickname!  (more polite than 'your momma', hopefully)
[02:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> then no resize needed
[02:16] <arnducky> greedyb, v4l
[02:16] <arnducky> and gatos and dri
[02:16] <arnducky> google em
[02:16] <Enquest> Is there here someone who know how to capture a stream?
[02:16] <arnducky> Enquest, as I told greedyb
[02:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> Enquest: mencoder or steamsomething
[02:16] <bob_4_a_day> michuk ignore all the 'shrink' 'change' and 'break' your partitions advise and install it the way you planed.
[02:17] <arnducky> michuk, man ntfsresize
[02:17] <Enquest> I use the following command mplayer -noframedrop -dumpfile dollar.rm -dumpstream http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/tv/vpro/tegenlicht/bb.20051120.rm?start=0:0:0
[02:17] <arnducky> man fuserd
[02:17] <Enquest> but it won't work
[02:17] <bob_4_a_day> michuk it will work just fine.
[02:17] <arnducky> (FUSE)
[02:17] <michuk> bob_4_a_day: you are sure it wont make windows unbootable, right?
[02:17] <arnducky> man parted | gparted | qtparted
[02:18] <arnducky> michuk, backup your mbr and doze pt'n then you anc much around as much  as you want
[02:18] <michuk> how to backup mbr from withing windows?
[02:18] <arnducky> michuk, ewww
[02:18] <michuk> i have windows boot manager now
[02:19] <michuk> with choice of win2000 and winxp
[02:19] <arnducky> that's nasty unless you have commercial software (or unless you mount the drive in another machine)
[02:19] <michuk> and hope it will be replaced with grub with choice of ubuntu and winxp after all
[02:19] <animal> i just installed nVidiaDrivers and i was wodering if there is some kind  of software i can make configs in
[02:19] <bob_4_a_day> grub may not find your windows xp boot loader but these guys can help you tell grub how to find it without effert....
[02:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> animal: nvidia-settings IIRC
[02:19] <mathieudz> bob_4_a_day: actually it's in 'sysutils' not in 'dos2unix'
[02:20] <animal> Kamping_Kaiser, what?
[02:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> michuk: the question is wether xp has it's bootloader on the 2k partition - i think the answer is yes
[02:20] <bob_4_a_day> mathieudz i told you <mathieudz> bob_4_a_day: hmm. ic. my archive listings are gone. needed an update first
 well not in ubuntu it seems...
[02:20] <michuk> yes, on the 2k partition
[02:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> now if you nuke the 2k partition, you lose the boot loader
[02:20] <michuk> 2k was first
[02:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> not just 'i need to point back to it' but 'it's realy gone'
[02:21] <arnducky> Symantec's Ghost asn Partition Magic (bought out from PowerQuest) lines now support Ext3 as well as all the WinGakFSes, but gparted is *supposed* to do all the same stuff now
[02:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> michuk: i *think* what you can do, is remove 2k, then boot with the xp cd, and 'mbr recover'
[02:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> then restore grub
[02:21] <bob_4_a_day> mathieudz the package is dos2unix that i install here but not in ubuntu, it's packaged differently.
[02:21] <greedyb> whats the best way to restartx
[02:21] <greedyb> ?
[02:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> greedyb: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:22] <greedyb> wow
[02:22] <arnducky> Kamping_Kaiser, what's a good trigger for a WIn --> Linux multiboot (migration) strategy?   I could write a howto on that too (though not a concise one).
[02:22] <greedyb> thats long
[02:22] <greedyb> lol
[02:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol greedyb
[02:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: an it person who has to use linux for a uni degree
[02:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> generaly they like a 'normal user' and a 'it pro'
[02:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> show it's for everyone ;)
[02:23] <bob_4_a_day> i'd say '<greedyb> whats the best way to restartx'  ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:23] <michuk> Kamping_Kaiser: ok, so i guess it's more risky than i thought
[02:23] <arnducky> michuk, the boot code must always fit within the first 64K (max)
[02:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: normal user wants to escape from viri/worms, so says, try ubuntu
[02:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> michuk: yeh.
[02:24] <michuk> oh
[02:24] <arnducky> All M$ products *require* their boot loader on the  first device on the first controller (aside from boot emulation)
[02:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> bob_4_a_day: true. could have said that
[02:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> and the ms boot loader may only be used for ms os's
[02:25] <bidbei> ya des frenchies ici
[02:25] <Gkane> hi
[02:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi'
[02:25] <arnducky> Although second, and subsquent installs of M$ will happilly boot from even logical partitions outside of the 1023 cylinder limit
[02:26] <michuk> ok, i'll do it another way around then
[02:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: does booting grub onto the second partition count as 'emulation',. i think it does
[02:26] <arnducky> They all MUST write to the bootsector where the first M$ product
[02:26] <arnducky> nononon
[02:26] <bob_4_a_day> arnducky and other devices too
[02:26] <imc1> Any way to get software 256-bit key AES encryption on Ubuntu ?
[02:26] <michuk> i'll shrink the last partiion (with winxp) and install linux on what is left
[02:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> michuk: you can resize your 2k partition down to 5m
[02:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> then leave the boot code there ;)
[02:26] <arnducky> I'm jsut giving yout he background -- dont' give up -- that;'s where LILO and GRUB come in
[02:27] <arnducky> GRUB and LILO 'lie' to M$ boot functions
[02:27] <bob_4_a_day> michuk ?
[02:27] <michuk> but wait, does Windows boot loader install on MBR or on partition's firsrt sector?
[02:27] <Gkane> I reinstalled windowhi
[02:27] <Gkane> hi*
[02:27] <arnducky> this is not the same as emulation (I was referring to the BIOS)
[02:27] <arnducky> michuk, it does
[02:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> lool. what does it arnducky?
[02:27] <arnducky> The first sector orf IDE-0 pt'n 1 normally
[02:28] <bob_4_a_day> just rm hda1  make new linux part and badabing install the thing.
[02:28] <rysiu> siema siema jest ktos z polski ??
[02:28] <arnducky> It's really nasty to try anything else
[02:28] <Gkane> how can i reinstall grub?
[02:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> rysiu: English only in here
[02:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> Gkane: using the install cd
[02:28] <rysiu> oki
[02:28] <emurz> hello is it possible to let realplayer work with alsa?
[02:28] <arnducky> What GRUB and LILO do are write around the MS code that has to live there
[02:28] <Gkane> im now with a live-cd online but i dont know how to reinstall grub
[02:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> Gkane: get the install cd -> on prompt type 'rescue' -> something
[02:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> !restoregrub
[02:29] <ubotu> Kamping_Kaiser: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> !grub
[02:29] <ubotu> [grub]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[02:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows <- that link
[02:29] <arnducky> Gkane, # apt-get remove --purge grub && apt-get install grub
[02:29] <devilz_> hi can someone help me with ntfs partitions
[02:29] <devilz_> i have Hda1 in my Desktop
[02:29] <devilz_> and when i press it
[02:29] <devilz_> i get permisson denied
[02:30] <devilz_> i'm not owner
[02:30] <arnducky> Heh, wouldja lookit this, Kamping_Kaiser (I should hurry up and add that bot wiki)
[02:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> usermask
[02:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> devilz_: edit your fstab and add 'usermask=0777' to the options IIRC
[02:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's tomorrow!
[02:31] <arnducky> emurz, re: realplayer: yes
[02:31] <arnducky> !alsa
[02:31] <ubotu> alsa is probably http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[02:31] <blizzkid> is there a way to quickly get an overview of all installed aps that are installed from source?
[02:31] <WebLOCH> anyone fancy giving me some assistance with luminocity?  i get as far as  checking for XSERVER... configure: error: Package requirements (randrproto....
[02:31] <devilz_> Kamping_Kaiser, is it safe?
[02:31] <bob_4_a_day> usermask ????   umask ?
[02:31] <arnducky> emurz -- it's theoretically possible to get ALSA to work with anything since it's a driver
[02:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> blizzkid: no
[02:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> bob_4_a_day: umask
[02:31] <arnducky> arts is a sound *daemon*
[02:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> devilz_: yes, if you put the right things in
[02:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> !ntfs
[02:32] <arnducky> It can 'manage/provide' your drivers
[02:32] <blizzkid> and is there an easy way to remove these apps?
[02:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell devilz_ about ntfs
[02:32] <arnducky> OOpss brb
[02:32] <devilz_> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0777 0       0
[02:32] <devilz_> i have this
[02:32] <michuk> ok so once more.... what is the safest way to install ubuntu and not lose my Windows XP boot information?
[02:32] <arnducky> !tell me about ntfs
[02:32] <michuk> cuz i think i'm lost
[02:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> michuk: i cant honestly tell you the safest way. i can only gues
[02:33] <michuk> ok, guess
[02:33] <arnducky> It's broken, I'll add it again
[02:33] <arnducky> ubotu: NTFS is the (N)ew(T)echnology(F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Microsoft's Windows NT, 2000, XP, Media Center, and Server2003 (tm). To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions.  For more details about NTFS support under Linux, see also: ntfstools.  ;P
[02:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> down goes your geek cred!
[02:37] <ZzeCoOl> one more time
[02:37] <ZzeCoOl> Hello i have sound blaster audigy and ive noticed that ubuntu mixer doesnt keep the setings and every time i reboot i have to open it and turn on surround center and LFE channels again :/ (plz tell me if there is a way to save the mixer setup)
[02:37] <Astxist> Come to the darkside get a free cookie
[02:38] <Astxist> ZzeCoOl, no idea how to do that
[02:38] <WebLOCH> anyone here successfully run luminocity ?
[02:38] <ninou> Kamping_Kaiser: when booting, hotplug do no set my network interface
[02:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> ZzeCoOl: it can save, i just don't know how :)
[02:38] <ZzeCoOl> grrrrr
[02:39] <ninou> Kamping_Kaiser: i try to undestand the mapping tag in network/interfaces
[02:39] <ZzeCoOl> find me the way or prepera to die
[02:39] <bob_4_a_day> ZzeCoOl man alsactrl     errr what ever it is... it can save settings.
[02:39] <ZzeCoOl> prepare*
[02:39] <ZzeCoOl> :P
[02:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> ninou: use the Gnome network tool
[02:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> ninou: is it a ethernet connection you want to work?
[02:40] <oNe^somewhere> hello ... i need some help installing kvirc
[02:40] <oNe^somewhere> can some1 help me plz
[02:40] <bob_4_a_day> ZzeCoOl but i can't say if it will save the extended settings you are talking about or not...  you'll just have to check.
[02:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> then basicly
[02:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> auto eth?
[02:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> iface eth? inet DHCP
[02:40] <ninou> i fix the problem with a 'auto eth0'
[02:40] <oNe^somewhere> not the version in the package manager either
[02:41] <bob_4_a_day> alsactl maybe
[02:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> oNe^somewhere: try asking in #KDE, i doubt many people here will be able to help
[02:41] <ZzeCoOl> bob_4_a_day:  checked ... no solution
[02:41] <ninou> i have another problem with gnome under nfs home dir -> unable to log out
[02:41] <ZzeCoOl> basicly the aplication is  : gnome-volume-control
[02:42] <oNe^somewhere> ok ty Kamping_Kaiser
[02:42] <arnducky> ubotu: ntfstools are a suite of tools that aim to provide (and do, to an ever intcreasing degree) NTFS support under Linux right in the kernel. Included are ntfsmount (which depends on FUSE); ntfsfix; ntfs and ntfsresize (etc.) which may safely resize ntfs partitions.  The Debian (~.deb) package is named ntfsprog and provides libntfs.  ntfstools are now integrated with parted.  More information is available from the ntfstools' devel
[02:42] <arnducky> opers, Linux-NTFS Project found at http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ (also hosted at http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/).  Copyleft 2005 the Ubuntu Community.
[02:42] <ubotu> arnducky: okay
[02:42] <bob_4_a_day> oNe^somewhere 'sudo apt-get install kvirc '
[02:42] <bob_4_a_day> !info kvirc
[02:42] <ubotu> kvirc: (Fully scriptable graphical IRC client with plugin support), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2:<IP_ADDRESS>-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1365 kB, Installed size: 4064 kB
[02:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> arnducky: bit long ;)
[02:43] <arnducky> It's not echoing the entry in pvt msg
[02:43] <oNe^somewhere> what if i dont use the KDE ?
[02:43] <bob_4_a_day> oNe^somewhere 'sudo apt-get install kvirc '
[02:43] <bob_4_a_day> it's in universe
[02:43] <bob_4_a_day> ahh assumes breezy .....
[02:43] <oNe^somewhere> i tried that bob_4_a_day  ...but i have the 3.2.0tar.gz file
[02:44] <Plus-V-ducky> !ntfstools
[02:44] <bob_4_a_day> and why are you not satisfied with the precompiled package oNe^somewhere ?
[02:45] <oNe^somewhere> because i have my own server on another network and want more (as in for OPER purposes)
[02:45] <bob_4_a_day> k
[02:45] <Hoxzer> is there any way to go to the home dir whit same command no matter what user name you use?
[02:46] <bob_4_a_day> cd
[02:46] <oNe^somewhere> i'm using x-chat atm but i am new to linux ... i usually use invision on XP pro
[02:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hoxzer: typing "cd" will always take you to the logged in users home
[02:47] <aftertaf> oNe^somewhere:  if you are new to linux, you shouldnt be messing with source files right now....
[02:47] <Hoxzer> kamping_kaiser: ok, can I use it with mv command somehow?
[02:47] <bob_4_a_day> cd  =  cd $HOME  = cd ~
[02:47] <Plus-V-ducky> ubotu: ntfstools are a suite of tools that aims to provide NTFS support under Linux right in the kernel. Included are ntfsmount (depends on FUSE); ntfsfix; and ntfsresize (can safely resize ntfs partitions). The Debian (~.deb) package is named ntfsprog and provides libntfs.  ntfstools are now integrated with parted. ntfstools are developed by the Linux-NTFS Project found at http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ (also hosted at http://linux
[02:47] <Plus-V-ducky> -ntfs.sourceforge.net/).  Copyleft 2005 the Ubuntu Community
[02:47] <ubotu> ...but ntfstools is already something else...
[02:47] <aftertaf> just a bit of headache saving advice
[02:47] <Plus-V-ducky> !forget ntfstools
[02:47] <ubotu> Plus-V-ducky: i forgot ntfstools
[02:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hoxzer: what do you want to do?
[02:48] <Plus-V-ducky> ubotu: ntfstools are a suite of tools that aims to provide NTFS support under Linux right in the kernel. Included are ntfsmount (depends on FUSE); ntfsfix; and ntfsresize (can safely resize ntfs partitions). The Debian (~.deb) package is named ntfsprog and provides libntfs.  ntfstools are now integrated with parted. ntfstools are developed by the Linux-NTFS Project found at http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ [Copyleft 2005 the Ubuntu Co
[02:48] <Plus-V-ducky> mmunity] .
[02:48] <ubotu> Plus-V-ducky: okay
[02:48] <aftertaf> Plus-V-ducky:  you can update the bot in a private msg channel with it
[02:48] <Hoxzer> Kamping_kaiser: move file to home dir
[02:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hoxzer:  mv filename ~
[02:48] <Hoxzer> ok
[02:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> ~ is /home/$username/
[02:48] <aftertaf> ~/
[02:48] <Hoxzer> yeah, I know
[02:48] <Plus-V-ducky> aftertaf, I was trying but it seems to be +d in PRIV_MSG QUEERY
[02:48] <ZzeCoOl> Hello i have sound blaster audigy and ive noticed that ubuntu mixer doesnt keep the setings and every time i reboot i have to open it and turn on surround center and LFE channels again :/ (plz tell me if there is a way to save the mixer setup)      <------------SOLVED if anyone wanna know ask me :)
[02:48] <bob_4_a_day> $HOME
[02:48] <Plus-V-ducky> (+d/deaf)
[02:48] <aftertaf> Plus-V-ducky:  are your registered with nickserv?
[02:49] <Plus-V-ducky> blootbot?
[02:49] <bob_4_a_day> mv file $HOME
[02:49] <Plus-V-ducky> Oh, no.  I never bother with that unless it's forced.
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> aftertaf: you don't have to pm
[02:49] <aftertaf> yeah but it causes clutter in the chan...
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> but if it's got an entry you need to say 'ubotu forget something' first
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> aftertaf: sure
[02:50] <blizzkid> Does anyone have an idea how to "listen" for an icoming call on a bluetooth phone?
[02:50] <blizzkid> I'd like an alert on my mobile
[02:50] <blizzkid> s/mobile/desktop
[02:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> eek
[02:50] <aftertaf> hehe
[02:51] <Plus-V-ducky> On an ipaq -- that's psyck!
[02:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[02:52] <Plus-V-ducky> errr, 'Symbian' BTW
[02:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> on it's own hdd
[02:52] <blizzkid> Plus-V-ducky, why not take Amiga's Workbench? :p
[02:52] <bob_4_a_day> probably has micro-reboot on there too
[02:53] <Plus-V-ducky> yeah, so Linux does try mkswap on /dev/[solar_system_partn] /
[02:53] <Plus-V-ducky> 'doesn't' LOL
[02:53] <Plus-V-ducky> blizzkid, Watchoo talkin bout', Willis?
[02:54] <Plus-V-ducky> !ntfstools
[02:54] <blizzkid> Plus-V-ducky, installing amiga's workbench on the ipaq ;-)
[02:55] <Plus-V-ducky> Don't know it -- never played with Amigas ( I sorta skipped a big gap between Apple2+/C64 and i286)
[02:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> bhahahaha
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> Need one?
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:56] <blizzkid> I had the 500 and the 1200
[02:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> i sorta skipped the gap between - and 2001 ;P (ish)
[02:56] <blizzkid> started with a VIC20 :)
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> blizzkid,  got one of those also.
[02:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> Dr_Willis: yheh, i do :|
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> NOW you are all making me feel old!
[02:56] <blizzkid> lol
[02:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> rofl
[02:56] <Plus-V-ducky> Dr_Willis, how expensive are they to ship and could I use it for a terminal server or anything even slightly usefull?
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> Tracked down the C64 GEOS disk images the other day to try in the VICE emulator...
[02:56] <bob_4_a_day> oh vic10's
[02:57] <Astxist> Dr_Willis, !
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Plus-V-ducky,  not really usefull for much of anything these days
[02:57] <blizzkid> Dr_Willis, where are the days we were irc'ing with an 9600-modem?
[02:57] <Plus-V-ducky> Got a modem or a NIC in it?
[02:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> they are history
[02:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> you gotta keep them
[02:57] <Astxist> Dr_Willis, I have the manual to c64 geos but not the damn discs
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Plus-V-ducky,  - ya need special Monitors for them, not normal pc monitor.. Serial port.. NEVER even seen a NIC in an amiga
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Astinus,  :P
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> oops..
[02:57] <Astxist> heh
[02:57] <warreng> if i "apt-get install -y" it won't ask me y/n questions, but is there a way to skip those blue screens that popup for instance when installing mysql that require you to hit OK?
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Astxist,  i have severla of the still shrinkwraped geos box's also.
[02:57] <Gkane> !grub
[02:58] <ubotu> somebody said grub was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[02:58] <Astxist> but I have a load of other software for my C64
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> Astxist,  the UAE emulator does a DANG good job..
[02:58] <Astxist> Dr_Willis, heh yeah but I couldn't be bothered setting it up
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> Astxist,  "Amiga In a Box" check it out. :P all ya need is the wb 3.1 floppy disks images and a rom image or 2. :P
[02:59] <Gkane> when i try to install grub, i will get this error: /dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> they took the amiga OS and updated all the stuff. its actually useable.. (barely)
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> LOl
[02:59] <Gkane> oh sorry, i mean this:
[02:59] <Gkane> /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[02:59] <Plus-V-ducky> Dr_Willis, canthey talk v.35 or even v.31bis over their '/dev/ttys0'es?
[02:59] <Astxist> Gkane, had me scratching my head there for a minute
[02:59] <Plus-V-ducky> What UART?
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> Plus-V-ducky,  no clue.. its been ages.. ive never used Linux on one. ;P i did play with MINIX on one ages ago.
[03:00] <blizzkid> I'm getting sick of not finding the solution to my bt-problem :-s
[03:00] <devilz_> E: Couldn't find package acroread
[03:00] <devilz_> why it cant find this package
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> Plus-V-ducky,  in this day of $300 pc's - an amiga as a serial terminal - is barely worth messing with.
[03:00] <ompaul> http://www.tuxme.com/ funny results
[03:00] <Plus-V-ducky> Dr_Willis, that's what Linus started with...
[03:01] <Astxist> devilz_, you probably need to add repositories to your sources.list
[03:01] <Gkane> Astxist, waht u mean?
[03:01] <devilz_> Astxist, where can i find
[03:01] <Astxist> devilz_, what package are you looking for exactly?
[03:01] <bob_4_a_day> devilz_ it's in multiverse
[03:02] <warreng> what's the difference between GMT and UTC ?
[03:02] <devilz_> Astxist, well i want to have latest versions
[03:03] <devilz_> of packages
[03:03] <Astxist> devilz_, if you do a search for repositiories on the wiki it'll tell you how to add them
[03:03] <bob_4_a_day> hmmm gtm is utc+0 isn't it.
[03:03] <Plus-V-ducky> Kamping_Kaiser, what's that humourous stick site -- bufferspace is expanding as a hyperbolic function here
[03:03] <spiderbatdad> help!
[03:03] <devilz_> is it good if i add those whoa re on started guide ubuntu
[03:03] <devilz_> http://ubuntuguide.org/#synaptic
[03:04] <Plus-V-ducky> If you're available to answer soon, it would be good since I have to be at my lawyer's office in ~27 minutes, Kamping_Kaise1
[03:04] <Plus-V-ducky> =(
[03:04] <spiderbatdad> can't boot iso cd made from online download
[03:04] <bob_4_a_day> devilz_ you on breezy ?
[03:04] <devilz_> what is breezy?
[03:04] <devilz_> :(
[03:04] <Kamping_Kaise1> Plus-V-ducky: what did you say?
[03:05] <Plus-V-ducky> spiderbatdad, you can use isofs to mount them and Ubuntu can actual install from .iso on a locall HDD --no kidding
[03:05] <spiderbatdad> ubuntu 5.10 breezy badger
[03:05] <bob_4_a_day> devilz_  breezy badger = ubuntu 5.10
[03:05] <Astxist> devilz_, breezy badger is 5.10
[03:05] <devilz_> well i have 5.10
[03:05] <devilz_> ubuntu
[03:05] <devilz_> thats latest version
[03:05] <bob_4_a_day> devilz_  use  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 this
[03:05] <[Jonne] > that's breezy badger
[03:05] <Plus-V-ducky> (so saith the omnicient docs, though I haven't tried it myself)
[03:05] <spiderbatdad> window xp os
[03:06] <Plus-V-ducky> Kamping_Kaiser, what's that humourous stick site -- bufferspace is expanding as a hyperbolic function here
[03:06] <Kamping_Kaise1> http://www.stickpage.com/counterstickseries.shtml
[03:06] <spiderbatdad> should just boot from cd-rom...maybe bad copy?
[03:06] <devilz_> bob_4_a_day, ty
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> spiderbatdad,  How did you butn the iso image file?
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> spiderbatdad,  How did you burn the iso image file?
[03:07] <spiderbatdad> ms windows cd burner
[03:07] <komenx> why in ubuntu cd.. command not found ????
[03:07] <imc1> Any way to get software 256-bit key AES encryption on Ubuntu ?
[03:07] <bob_4_a_day> np
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> spiderbatdad,  check the cd.. if you have a huge '.iso' file - on it.. You dident burn it right
[03:07] <spiderbatdad> do I need to download a new copy with bittorrent?
[03:07] <[Jonne] > spiderbatdad, get real cd burning software
[03:07] <[Jonne] > no
[03:07] <[Jonne] > just burn a new cd
[03:07] <michuk> HEY, one more question, during Ubuntu install process, can I resize NTFS partition?
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> spiderbatdad,  i suggest you use "Burn at once" to burn isos under windoes xp.
[03:07] <spiderbatdad> thank you.
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> http://www.burnatonce.com/index.htm?downloads
[03:08] <[Jonne] > i'd recommend this free cd burner: http://www.cdburnerxp.se/
[03:08] <bob_4_a_day> ok someone else can be bob for a day now..... i'm like gondi dude
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> getting where these several good iso butners now for xp. Lol.
[03:08] <imc1> Any one on my encryption question? I want AES to encrypt directories and partitions
[03:09] <Jestre> imc1: You can use dm-crypt
[03:09] <[Jonne] > make sure you forget your password afterwards
[03:09] <[Jonne] > ;)
[03:09] <imc1> Jestre, thanks, Jonne, yeah
[03:09] <michuk> can I resize NTFS partition  during Ubuntu install process?
[03:10] <[Jonne] > i've used gparted from the livecd myself
[03:10] <devilz_> btw is it possible in gaim internet messanger to have voice chat
[03:10] <[Jonne] > you have to make sure the ntfs partition is not full, and defragged properly
[03:10] <devilz_> with microphone
[03:10] <devilz_> ?
[03:10] <[Jonne] > devilz_, i think that's for the next version
[03:10] <[Jonne] > 2.0
[03:10] <devilz_> yes
[03:10] <devilz_> i saw that
[03:10] <Kamping_Kaise1> devilz_: not currently
[03:10] <sanketmedhi> Hello, i am facing some problems with sound on Ubuntu. Everything plays but the sound is kinda unclear.
[03:11] <Kamping_Kaise1> try GAIM--vv
[03:11] <Plus-V-ducky> heh - rescheduled with my learned friend -- now I wait until AFTER rush hour to drive downtown
[03:11] <Latone> hey all .. I am working on my first linux system and can't create folders or files ... I don't know what I did wrong ..
[03:11] <Plus-V-ducky> =)
[03:11] <[Jonne] > latone, how are you trying to do it, and where?
[03:11] <[Jonne] > is it under /home/username/ ?
[03:11] <devilz_> [Jonne] , do you know that is 2.0 coming out
[03:11] <[Jonne] > when it's done
[03:12] <Latone> no .. var/www/   for web folders
[03:12] <Plus-V-ducky> Latone you need to look at a shell tutorial (one that will cover login, mkdir, cd, ls, rm et. al.)
[03:12] <sanketmedhi> Hello, i am facing some problems with sound on Ubuntu. Everything plays but the sound is kinda unclear.
[03:12] <Latone> tried with mkdir and with right click
[03:12] <[Jonne] > you're not allowed to write there by default
[03:12] <Plus-V-ducky> Anyone know of one?
[03:12] <[Jonne] > you'll have to do sudo chown <username>
[03:12] <[Jonne] > i mean
[03:12] <[Jonne] > sudo chown <username> var/www
[03:12] <sanketmedhi> Hello, i am facing some problems with sound on Ubuntu. Everything plays but the sound is kinda unclear. Any ideas anyone?
[03:13] <[Jonne] > then you'll be able to do whatever you want
[03:13] <w-mute> Hi. How can I disable update-notifier on a host programmatically (like editing a file or running a shell command)?
[03:13] <Kamping_Kaise1> sanketmedhi: don't spam the channel
[03:13] <Latone> cool cool thanks for the tip
[03:13] <[Jonne] > you can also opt for sudo chmod 666 var/www
[03:13] <sanketmedhi> Kamping_Kaise1, i am trying to get attention! :(
[03:13] <[Jonne] > which would be even better
[03:13] <Kamping_Kaise1> sanketmedhi: ask your question. if no one answers after a while, ask again. spamming wont help
[03:14] <sanketmedhi> ok sorry
[03:14] <Latone> really .. let me try really quick
[03:14] <Ueuecoyotl> To the person who needed a quick shell tutorial -> http://unlser1.unl.csi.cuny.edu/tutorials/QuickUnixTutorial.html
[03:14] <[Jonne] > read up on linux' permissions stuff, if you understand that, you'll save yourself a lot of trouble
[03:14] <Plus-V-ducky> michuk, not really
[03:14] <wickedpuppy> you want to give read/write access to your web dir to everyone ? ...
[03:14] <[Jonne] > wickedpuppy, why the hell not? it's his system
[03:14] <Plus-V-ducky> You *can* copy partitions if you have equeivalent amount of freespace
[03:15] <devilz_> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of skype:
[03:15] <devilz_>  skype depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:<IP_ADDRESS>); however:
[03:15] <devilz_>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[03:15] <Latone> I am the only user LOL
[03:15] <strokey> Do i need to make partitions for ubuntu in windows, or can it do it auto via the install? I want to dual boot.
[03:15] <devilz_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:15] <devilz_> is only available from another source
[03:15] <devilz_> However the following packages replace it:
[03:15] <devilz_>   libqt3-mt
[03:15] <devilz_> E: Package libqt3c102-mt has no installation candidate
[03:15] <devilz_> ?!
[03:15] <mjk64> Hi all!  The Ubuntu homepage says: "The licences for software applications in /main/ must be free, but main may also may contain binary firmware and selected fonts that cannot be modified without permission from their authors." - can I mask out these not-really-free software automatically when using aptitude (both cmd-line and curses) or apt-get?
[03:15] <w-mute> strokey: the installer can partition the disk.
[03:16] <devilz_> i'm trying sudo apt-get install libqt3c102-mt
[03:16] <devilz_> and i get this msg
[03:16] <yosch> hi guys, how do I remove the noexec flag which get automatically added to an external usb drive?
[03:16] <Plus-V-ducky> [Jonne] , the man pages ntfstools say one doesn't need to defrag -- I don't know if this is true since I've had a hard time with last step (sfdisk) of resizing ntfs parts
[03:16] <[Jonne] > maybe try nonfree or something
[03:16] <strokey> w-mute: so i load up the installer, and it will auto make a dual boot?
[03:16] <Hoxzer> somebody knows what option I need to use in imagemagic to create images smaller than 1024 kbytes
[03:16] <wickedpuppy> [Jonne] , did you explained to him what does chmod 666 do ?
[03:17] <Plus-V-ducky> Butis *seemed* to work just fine at the CLI ntfresize or GUI gparted stagee
[03:17] <[Jonne] > i think i read somewhere a defrag was necessary. It can't hurt in any case
[03:17] <[Jonne] > wickedpuppy, i told him to read up on linux' permissions
[03:17] <[Jonne] > i hope he does that
[03:18] <wickedpuppy> [Jonne] , wouldn't it be safer to mkdir /var/www/dir_name and chown it ? instead of chmod the whole dir ?
[03:19] <Plus-V-ducky> [Jonne] , it *used* to be necessary. And of course you're right -- it can't hurt anything (except your time budget) and is a pain if you have to reboot to a M$ enviro to defrag (do you know of an ntfs defraggger for Linux?)
[03:19] <Kamping_Kaise1> wickedpuppy: it would be eaiser to make a symlink from /var/www/username to /home/username/public_html
[03:19] <pistolero> what is the command to put the console in background?
[03:19] <Plus-V-ducky> hehehe
[03:19] <Plus-V-ducky> (also Ghost)
[03:20] <wickedpuppy> either way ... but chmodding the web dir would be the last option i would go for ...
[03:20] <[Jonne] > wickedpuppy,  i'm only a n00b in linux things, so i'm not sure what the best practice is
[03:20] <Plus-V-ducky> clone it, then clone it back -- way faster and works even if the pt'n is too full to defrag under `doze
[03:20] <juliux> hi has some one tried out gnome bluetooth control remote ?
[03:20] <[Jonne] > i'm assuming he's setting up a simple testing box for himself, so he's not risking much
[03:21] <Plus-V-ducky> pistolero, which console?  (you can't really 'background' your ttys just switch between them)
[03:21] <idiot> !limewire
[03:21] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[03:21] <idiot> !java
[03:21] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:21] <pistolero> Plus-V-ducky, terminal
[03:21] <Plus-V-ducky> Unless you mean something fancy with screen or even mgetty
[03:21] <idiot> !javadebs
[03:21] <ubotu> [javadebs]  Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[03:22] <pistolero> the window console in the X mode
[03:22] <Plus-V-ducky> pistolero, an x-windows terminal?
[03:22] <oNe^somewhere> i installed java last week but have errors on the java script console
[03:22] <Plus-V-ducky> pistolero, there should be an x-windows widget (minimize; restore; maximize buttons)
[03:23] <pistolero> its a comand ctrl + something
[03:23] <Plus-V-ducky> Ctrl-Z to suspend a *process* if that's what you mean.
[03:24] <Plus-V-ducky> I don't know a shortcut -- I'd like to know myself -- until I get an eraserhead point right on my keyboard it would come in handy
[03:24] <pistolero> Plus-V-ducky,  let me explain.. ive downloaded amsn.. and im executing it with ./amsn ( console ), so if i close the console the amsn close too.. a friend of mine said that if i put the console in bg and type bg afetr.. it wont happen
[03:24] <pistolero> do u have any solution ?
[03:25] <Plus-V-ducky> pistolero, uhhh... don't close the console until you're done?  (minimizing it is fine)
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> use the 'exit' command to close the shell window.. DONT just click on the close button.
[03:25] <pistolero> =/
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> ./msn &
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> exit
[03:25] <Plus-V-ducky> Dr_Willis, I don't think he can do Ctrl-D
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> :P
[03:25] <Plus-V-ducky> ohhh -- duh
[03:25] <Plus-V-ducky> hehehe
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> :P
[03:25] <pistolero> how can i exec amsn without use the console!
[03:25] <pistolero> ?
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> pistolero,  add a laucher for it.
[03:26] <Pegasos989> I know this isn't exactly about operating system, but anyways... If I would like to set my computer as a proxy for my IRCing, where should I start? I mean that I would like to connect to IRC thro a browser or something so that the client would be on my computer (IPs to irc and everything would be as my comp). If you think that this is too much offtopic, could someone recommend me another channel?
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> byeee...
[03:26] <titanium_> is 30C an ok temperature for a sata hdd, or do i need to invest in another case fan?
[03:26] <pistolero> how ? im newbaby!
[03:26] <strokey> Do i need to make partitions for ubuntu in windows, or can it do it auto via the install? I want to dual boot. Like, would it do it auto?
[03:26] <Plus-V-ducky> add it to your path and chmod it +x
[03:26] <Plus-V-ducky> then make a shorcut
[03:26] <pistolero> hmm ?
[03:26] <pistolero> im brazilian.. my english is not so good
[03:26] <pistolero> can u explain in more word plz!
[03:26] <strokey> d
[03:26] <Plus-V-ducky> ....
[03:27] <pistolero> srry
[03:27] <pistolero> can u ?
[03:27] <idiot> Is there anyway to get write access to an NTFS Partition, I heard other distros can do it if its built into the kernel.
[03:27] <idiot> i just want to write a few mp3's to it.
[03:28] <Plus-V-ducky> I'm *thinking* gimme a minute! (can't you tell by the smoke coming out my ears?!)
[03:28] <Plus-V-ducky> idiot type !ntfstools
[03:28] <Plus-V-ducky> =oD
[03:28] <pistolero> hehe
[03:28] <idiot> !ntfstools
[03:29] <Pegasos989> !temperature
[03:29] <ubotu> Pegasos989: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:29] <Plus-V-ducky> I just made an entry and I'm so *#$% proud of myself I could [censored] ...
[03:29] <idiot> plus-v-ducky i don't want to resize...
[03:29] <idiot> i want to write a file to my ntfs.
[03:29] <Pegasos989> And another question, this time maybe a bit more related to os...  I used the command sudo chown <username> /var/www and now my folders look like files with footprint icons
[03:30] <pistolero> Plus-V-ducky,  write the commands and where i must put them.. and i ll
[03:30] <idiot> Ron_o, are you sure? =O
[03:30] <idiot> because in the gentoo kernel there is a option "NTFS Write Support"
[03:30] <idiot> Plus-V-Ducky, I don't want to make a new ntfs partition, I want to use my current one and put some files on it
[03:30] <idiot> -_-
[03:31] <Ueuecoyotl> Pegasos989, search for "temperature" in synaptic package manager and you'll find a couple of packages
[03:31] <Plus-V-ducky> idiot, that's not *completely* true any anymore (but writing is not stable yet)
[03:31] <Ron_o> idiot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NTFSReadWrite?highlight=%28ntfs%29
[03:31] <Pegasos989> Ueuecoyotl, thanks
[03:31] <idiot> k
[03:32] <LeeJunFan> writing to ntfs from linux is useless, you can only write to an existing file and you can't change the size of the file, you can also not create files.
[03:33] <[Jonne] > i just have a fat partition that i mounted in my home directory
[03:34] <Plus-V-ducky> ubotu forget ntfstools
[03:34] <ubotu> i forgot ntfstools, Plus-V-ducky
[03:34] <Plus-V-ducky> ntfstools are a suite of tools that aim to provide full NTFS support under Linux right in the kernel. Included are ntfsmount (depends on FUSE); ntfsfix; and ntfsresize (safely resizes ntfs partitions). The Debian (~.deb) package is named ntfsprog and provides libntfs.  ntfstools are now integrated with parted. Cf  the developers, Linux-NTFS Project at http://www.linux-ntfs.org/; also  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NTFSReadWrite?highli
[03:34] <Plus-V-ducky> ght=%28ntfs%29
[03:35] <mikul> where can i find som good lists to pu int my /etc/apt/sources.list?
[03:35] <Plus-V-ducky> ubotu: ntfstools are a suite of tools that aim to provide full NTFS support under Linux right in the kernel. Included are ntfsmount (depends on FUSE); ntfsfix; and ntfsresize, etc... The Debian (~.deb) package is named ntfsprog and provides libntfs.  ntfstools are now integrated with parted. Cf  the developers, Linux-NTFS Project at http://www.linux-ntfs.org/; also  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NTFSReadWrite?highlight=%28ntfs%29
[03:35] <ubotu> Plus-V-ducky: okay
[03:35] <simonvallore> Hello
[03:35] <strokey> Do i need to make partitions for ubuntu in windows, or can it do it auto via the install? I want to dual boot. Like, would it do it auto?
[03:36] <simonvallore> i have the win32 codecs but when i play a movie i have no sound
[03:36] <Kamping_Kaise1> Stormx2: they installer can make the partitions
[03:37] <strokey> Kamping_Kaise1. would it do it auto? im scared of them :|
[03:37] <Stormx2> Kamping_Kaise1: Yeah I know
[03:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> Stormx2: don't know. never tried it
[03:37] <kjcole> simonvallore, the only thing that worked for me (after going through the RestrictedFormats wiki page) was gxine.  Others would sometimes play sound but no video or video but no sound. gxine got both once I'd installed all the codecs, etc.
[03:37] <Stormx2> strokey: Not quite
[03:37] <mikul> where can i find som good package lists to put into my /etc/apt/sources.list?
[03:37] <simonvallore> kj can i pm you
[03:38] <Stormx2> strokey: What happens, is you need to resize the current partition down, then select "Automaticly partition the free space"
[03:38] <simonvallore> kjcole,  can i pm you
[03:38] <Stormx2> strokey: This can all be done from the installer
[03:38] <strokey> so
[03:38] <strokey> if i make this big partioton
[03:38] <Stormx2> !tell mikul about easysource
[03:38] <strokey> 70 gb of 114
[03:38] <strokey> it would use the rest|?
[03:38] <Stormx2> Yes.
[03:39] <strokey> is it simple in the installer? ><
[03:39] <Stormx2> strokey: Yes
[03:39] <Ueuecoyotl> Very simple
[03:39] <kjcole> simonvallore, I'm in a meeting on #ubuntu-meeting at the moment...
[03:39] <strokey> mkay
[03:39] <strokey> and woul dit auto dual boot?
[03:39] <rohan> hi all
[03:39] <rohan> is there a program that will allow me to pick colors from the complete screen ?
[03:39] <mikul> Storm2: url?
[03:39] <Ueuecoyotl> StrikeForce, Yup
[03:39] <Stormx2> !easysource
[03:39] <ubotu> easysource is probably For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:39] <Plus-V-ducky> mikul, don't use Debian packages indiscrimately with Ubuntu or you'll break your system
[03:39] <mikul> ahaa
[03:39] <Stormx2> ^^ there
[03:39] <fruud> How do i update my ubuntu to knubuntu ? (that able?)
[03:40] <Plus-V-ducky> !repos
[03:40] <ubotu> repos is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[03:40] <Stormx2> !kubuntu
[03:40] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[03:40] <[Jonne] > rohan: colorzilla, for stuff in your firefox window
[03:40] <blizzkid> fruud: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:40] <unfito> hello
[03:40] <unfito> does anyone use kiax on breezy?
[03:40] <fruud> blizzkid, thanks!
[03:40] <rohan> [Jonne] : no, the complete screen
[03:40] <[Jonne] > rohan, or use the gimp
[03:40] <unfito> i cant compile it
[03:40] <Plus-V-ducky> mikul, look at that 'repos' URL
[03:40] <rohan> [Jonne] : gimp doesnt allow complete scree
[03:40] <blizzkid> yw fruud
[03:40] <[Jonne] > sure it does
[03:40] <fruud> :] ~
[03:41] <rohan> or better still, a kde .kscrc color theme that has brown .. anyone has that ?
[03:41] <Stormx2> rohan: Go into the gimp, that can do it.
[03:41] <unfito> or any other iax client?
[03:41] <[Jonne] > file>acquire>screenshot>the whole screen
[03:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> damn i hate having a local mirror. it updates *way* to fast
[03:41] <Plus-V-ducky> You're looking pretty hoopy this morning, fruud ;-)
[03:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> a Hoary -> Breezy dist-upgrade in 1m 4 seconds :( bugger
[03:41] <fruud> Plus-V-ducky, woot
[03:41] <Plus-V-ducky> [cd H2G2]
[03:41] <Stormx2> Kamping_Kaiser: lol
[03:42] <fruud> is it really free to order ubuntu cds ?
[03:42] <fruud> absolutely free ?
[03:42] <_jason> fruud, yes
[03:42] <rohan> Stormx2: i cant find an option there
[03:42] <Stormx2> fruud: Absolutely
[03:42] <unfito> absolutely
[03:42] <Plus-V-ducky> Kamping_Kaiser, are you sure that wasn't gentoo -- heh?
[03:42] <chrisx1> hey i ordered 5 Breezy CD's and it was like 4 weeks agi
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> Plus-V-ducky: very ;)
[03:42] <Stormx2> rohan: Go to colour dropper
[03:42] <Ueuecoyotl> fruud, Yeah but it takes some time before you get the cd's
[03:42] <chrisx1> And They Aint come yet
[03:42] <fruud> shall i choose gdm or kdm in that install blizzkid ??
[03:42] <[Jonne] > chrisx1, it takes ages to get them
[03:42] <Stormx2> rohan: Then go to part of the screen, and click
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> chrisx1: i ordered 300, :)
[03:42] <drarcheh> hi, i'm installing breezy, but one package install failed (after the reboot). What is the best way to resume the installation?
[03:42] <fruud> oh okey
[03:42] <d3javu> fruud, ubuntu sent me 10 cds. within 1 and half months.
[03:42] <blizzkid> chrisx1, I had to wait for 6 weeks
[03:42] <chrisx1> LOL
[03:42] <chrisx1> kk
[03:42] <[Jonne] > you're better off downloading the torrent with 56K
[03:42] <_jason> chrisx1, mine took almost two months and for some people it takes longer
[03:42] <fruud> lolx
[03:42] <blizzkid> fruud: gdm
[03:43] <fruud> thanks blizzkid
[03:43] <rohan> fruud: the cds are free, but will take time. better to just download yourself :)
[03:43] <fruud> i want original cds :)
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> if you want quick cds, shipit is not what your after
[03:43] <Plus-V-ducky> Kamping_Kaiser, will you support my 'Freaky Frog' name campaign for the 2nd 2006 release?
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> if your after nice cds, shipiit is the best :)
[03:43] <rohan> yes
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> Plus-V-ducky: sure
[03:43] <rohan> the cds looks KEWL
[03:43] <rohan> :)
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> Plus-V-ducky: is there any concept art yet? ;)
[03:44] <nosilver4u> if a usb device automounts, where is it actually mounted?
[03:44] <blizzkid> I ordered 15: 10 for x86, 3 64-bit and 2 mac
[03:44] <_jason> Plus-V-ducky, i thoguth they were going alphabetical now?
[03:44] <nosilver4u> nm, found it
[03:44] <fruud> blizzkid, after iv installed knubuntu. sould i remove ubuntu ?
[03:44] <unfito> does anyone use kiax on breezy? i cant compile it
[03:44] <rohan> Stormx2: i still cant get it to work :(
[03:44] <blizzkid> fruud: no
[03:44] <fruud> okay
[03:44] <rohan> Stormx2: i want #XXXXXX code of the color
[03:44] <blizzkid> it's "part" of ubuntu
[03:44] <fruud> okay
[03:45] <rohan> fruud: new to linux ? or wanna try ubuntu ?
[03:45] <blizzkid> at least I guess, if you still want to be able to use gnome
[03:45] <fruud> oh btw, on my brothers pc i find quake2 through apt-get why not on mine ?
[03:45] <Plus-V-ducky> great, Kamping_Kaiser !  Will you hack up the petition form site for http://ubuntu.arnducky.net/name-that-beast.php?/  Yeah stolen from the Crazy Frog ~.avi
[03:45] <fruud> kinda yes :P
[03:45] <mikul> ^
[03:45] <mikul> thx, for now :)
[03:45] <griffin_> anyone have experience getting lexmark printers to work in Ubuntu?
[03:45] <chrisx1> is breezy version 5.10
[03:45] <chrisx1> ?
[03:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes
[03:45] <chrisx1> kk ty
[03:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> griffin_: a bit
[03:46] <_jason> chrisx1, yes, the way it works is year 2005 and month 10
[03:46] <rohan> anyone know how to select colors from the complete screen ?!
[03:46] <unu> hello
[03:46] <Plus-V-ducky> Kamping_Kaiser, I want he DE developers to change all the  system dot-wavs to crazy meep-meeps
[03:46] <unu> i'm trying to get vim to work in kdevelop
[03:46] <_jason> rohan, take a screenshot and open it in gimp
[03:46] <unu> in breezy
[03:46] <ComputerAlex> yes, i have Lekmark z11 on my Ubuntu
[03:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> Plus-V-ducky: bwhaahaa cool
[03:46] <griffin_> I have a Lex Z603, set it up in the printers menu, but Ubuntu doesnt have the right driver.
[03:46] <rohan> _jason: oh, ok.. nice idea :)
[03:46] <unu> but after configuring it in kcontrol, it still doen't show up in kdevelop config
[03:46] <blizzkid> anyone knows if a Canon i560 will work on ubuntu?
[03:46] <griffin_> I downloaded drivers from lex, but hey are not ppd
[03:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> griffin_: tried lexmark to see if they provide a driver?
[03:47] <fruud> lol btw, iv been reading lots on the net for using ps 7.0 on linux, they said u need original cd to start it, i got it to work without kinda easy...
[03:47] <griffin_> they came in a shell file
[03:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> blizzkid: i don't know for sure, but IIRC those do. check linuxprinting.org
[03:47] <unu> join #vim
[03:47] <griffin_> I wondered if running the sh in the right directory might get things working
[03:47] <blizzkid> Plus-V-ducky, I can't connect to that site you gave??
[03:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> bbl. trying to find someone in the runescape world (wish me luck)
[03:48] <griffin_> But I am not sure where to run the sh or if it even matters
[03:48] <fruud> centericq is the shit : D
[03:48] <rohan> finally !
[03:48] <rohan> thanks, _jason
[03:48] <rohan> :)
[03:49] <Plus-V-ducky> Kamping_Kaiser, if you don't know js, php or coldfusion, you can use my devarchive (http://arnducky.net/v|r/  <-- '|' = 0x7c) to do it with HTML4 and CSS2 .  So when can expect a draft in my incoming imap folders?
[03:49] <_jason> rohan, np
[03:49] <Plus-V-ducky> =oD
[03:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> :P
[03:49] <_jason> ubotu, tell blizzkid about printing
[03:49] <jeanjacques> hello
[03:50] <Plus-V-ducky> blizzkid, it was joke -- but if *enough* people thought it was funny I could add ubuntu.arnducky.net to my dns and point it at an httpd host -- heh.
[03:50] <jeanjacques> i'm trying to repair my hard drive using an ubuntu livecd, wich tool could i use to repair my hard drive ?
[03:50] <blizzkid> oh, k, sorry Plus-V-ducky
[03:50] <Plus-V-ducky> no need to apologize, FGS
[03:50] <Plus-V-ducky> =)
[03:50] <blizzkid> :)
[03:51] <hawking> I guess a new kernel was released yesterday 2.6.10 right?
[03:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> hawking: 2.6.10 is what's in Hoary
[03:51] <asdx> i have a shared printer on Windows XP (hp laserjet 1000 usb) and i want to use it on ubuntu, what shall i use?? SMB or CUPS?
[03:51] <Plus-V-ducky> hawking, are you trolling?  2.6.13-2 has been out for months
[03:51] <LeeJunFan> asdx: both.
[03:51] <idiot> Is there a console command to see how fast my CPU is?
[03:51] <asdx> I already used SMB and ubuntu said it's ready but dosn't work
[03:51] <blizzkid> You know what would be really cool in ubuntu? an implementation of mac's adress book. Pair up a bluetooth phone and see an alert for an incoming call
[03:51] <asdx> LeeJunFan: dosn't work :S
[03:51] <hawking> noone knows_
[03:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> idiot: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:52] <unu> anyone around here embedding vim in kdevelop?
[03:52] <idiot> I have a problem
[03:52] <idiot> My AMD 64 3500+ reads as 999mhz.....
[03:52] <Plus-V-ducky> idiot do you mean a benchmarking tool rating systems in bogomips?
[03:52] <idiot> and its like 1.8ghz.
[03:52] <hawking> Plus-V-ducky : hmm I didn't know that... how can i upgrade to it?
[03:52] <asdx> i can't configure a damn printer
[03:52] <Plus-V-ducky> idiot, that's probably a BIOS FSB x clock multiplier problem
[03:52] <asdx> :S
[03:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> idiot: do you have powersaving turned on?
[03:53] <LeeJunFan> asdx: cups will provide the driver interface and samba-client will connect to your windows server. make sure you have samba-client and freetype and hplip (if it's an HP printer) installed.
[03:53] <idiot> Not that I am aware of.
[03:53] <idiot> When I boot into windows its 1.8ghz
[03:53] <Latone> why would a folder not be able to be displayed?
[03:53] <asdx> LeeJunFan: i don't have a samba client here
[03:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> Latone: lots of reasons
[03:53] <Plus-V-ducky> hawking, i'm only a few days with Ubuntu .  I just know the apt-get (or aptitude | synaptic way)
[03:54] <LeeJunFan> asdx: you need to install samba-client on your linux box to get it to talk to the samba server that is your windows machine.
[03:54] <Latone> permissions are open ...
[03:54] <idiot> I will be right back I know my AMD 64 isn't 999mhz.. lmfao
[03:54] <asdx> LeeJunFan: apt-get install samba?
[03:54] <Plus-V-ducky> hawking, I believe you  just install the kernael-image that matches your architecture
[03:54] <LeeJunFan> asdx: apt-get install samba-client
[03:55] <Plus-V-ducky> if it doesn't have a version number after it, then it will automatically install the newest one available from your Ubuntu repository
[03:55] <asdx> damn
[03:55] <hawking> Plus-V-ducky: how can i learn which kernel I have
[03:55] <DeadZed> my screen resolution is 640x320 .. no matter what I do or change my  xorg.conf file. .. Installed nvidia drivers and it automatically detects my sony cpd screen
[03:55] <Plus-V-ducky> GRUB finds new kernels automatically now too
[03:55] <LeeJunFan> asdx: w/o that cups can't talk to your windows machine, cups will take your print job, convert it to the correct format for your printer, then use samba to send it to windows.
[03:55] <Plus-V-ducky> uname -k
[03:56] <hawking> Plus-V-ducky : oh I have <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:56] <Plus-V-ducky> uname -r
[03:56] <Plus-V-ducky> sorry
[03:56] <DeadZed> uname -k invalid option
[03:56] <DeadZed> uname -a ??
[03:57] <Plus-V-ducky> uname -a (for 'all')
[03:57] <blizzkid> here it's 2.6.12-10
[03:57] <hawking> what is the latest kernel?
[03:57] <asdx> that should be by default on ubuntu
[03:57] <Plus-V-ducky> hawking, check kernel.org
[03:57] <aftertaf> the package is called linux-386|686|k7   and it always depends on the latest available kernel.
[03:57] <DeadZed> and again ...
[03:57] <DeadZed> my screen resolution is 640x320 .. no matter what I do or change my  xorg.conf file. .. Installed nvidia drivers and it automatically detects my sony cpd screen
[03:58] <idiot> Hello I am back
[03:58] <idiot> when I boot into Windows it says 2.20GHz on my amd 64 3500+
[03:58] <DeadZed> hello idiot
[03:58] <idiot> and in linux it says 999mhz...
[03:58] <hawking> Plus-V-ducky: latest stable is <IP_ADDRESS>!
[03:58] <oNe^somewhere> does any1 know where i can get mp3 codecs ?
[03:58] <Plus-V-ducky> If you mean how to check on with ubuntu, I'm not sure without installing it if they haven't included the latest in apt-cache
[03:58] <DeadZed> idiot  are you a bot ?
[03:58] <idiot> no
[03:58] <idiot> i need help
[03:58] <DeadZed> sound like one
[03:59] <j813> hi guys
[03:59] <idiot> Kamping_Kaiser, you still here?
[03:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> idiot: yeh
[03:59] <idiot> Remember my problem a few mins ago
[03:59] <idiot> Linux sees my CPU speed @ 999mhz
[03:59] <idiot> and Windows is 2.20GHz
[04:00] <idiot> what should I do?
[04:00] <Plus-V-ducky> Kamping_Kaiser, did you look at the new ntfs entry?
[04:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> idiot: do you have powernow daemon running?
[04:00] <idiot> I don't know.
[04:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> Plus-V-ducky: not yet
[04:00] <idiot> i never checked.
[04:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell me about ntfs
[04:00] <idiot> whats the command to start it?
[04:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> idiot: it should start by default IIRC
[04:00] <Plus-V-ducky> idiot, you could check out powertweak too (it even runs as a daemon)
[04:00] <ox> hi - I'm trying to get a better screen resolution on my dell inspiron 5100 with breezy, I have 1024x768, but I want 1400x1050, I've tried dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver, but I always end up with 1024X768. What do I need to do?
[04:01] <blizzkid> Kamping_Kaiser, couldn't it be he installed the x86-version?
[04:01] <idiot> HOld on let me go back into linux, brb -__-
[04:01] <Latone> okay ... got the folders working ... thanks for the help
[04:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> could be yes
[04:01] <Latone> now to figure out why ubuntu doesn't see the internet but does see the network
[04:01] <mikul> I am getting an error when i downloading the new list with apt-get update:
[04:01] <Plus-V-ducky> idiot, are you running a *#%ing Centrino (P-IV M with Intel speed choke... err stepping) CPU?
[04:02] <blizzkid> I suggest he pastes the output of uname -r here
[04:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> Plus-V-ducky: perhaps drop the hpfs reference and put in a asdk about !ntfs tools bit?
[04:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> Plus-V-ducky: he's running an atholon 64
[04:02] <mikul> # Automatically generated sources.list
[04:02] <mikul> # http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:02] <mikul> # Ubuntu supported packages (packages)
[04:02] <mikul> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[04:02] <mikul> # Ubuntu community supported packages (packages)
[04:02] <mikul> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[04:02] <mikul> # Seveas' packages (packages)
[04:02] <Plus-V-ducky> Huh -- I thought that was in there -- too many versions, too few bytes
[04:02] <mikul> deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas all
[04:02] <mikul> # Ubuntu backports project (packages)
[04:02] <mikul> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:02] <mikul> # Cipherfunk multimedia packages (packages)
[04:02] <mikul> deb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ breezy main
[04:02] <mikul> # Bleeding edge wine packages (packages)
[04:02] <mikul> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[04:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> wahoa
[04:02] <mikul> # OpenOffice.org 2 final packages (packages)
[04:03] <mikul> deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2/ ./
[04:03] <mikul> # Penguin Liberation Front (packages)
[04:03] <mikul> deb ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[04:03] <jeanjacques> hey i can't find the root password for the ubuntu live cd help me please
[04:03] <mikul> wrong
[04:03] <mikul> sorry
[04:03] <Plus-V-ducky> woah!
[04:03] <mikul> W: GPG error: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> mikul: don't *ever* do that again
[04:03] <mikul> W: GPG error: ftp://cipherfunk.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4CF19C3233BAC1B3
[04:03] <Plus-V-ducky> !pastebin
[04:03] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:03] <mikul> thats the right one :P
[04:03] <trappist> jeanjacques: there is none.  use sudo.
[04:03] <idiot> What am I looking for? - I use gnome
[04:03] <jeanjacques> ok trappist  thanks
[04:03] <Plus-V-ducky> mikul use the pastebin URL
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> mikul: the point of that was?
[04:03] <idiot> Plus-V-Ducky, what am I looking for that 'daemon thing'
[04:03] <j813> Hi guys, NVidia Video card driver 7676 only supports Kernel 2.6-13?
[04:03] <mikul> okej, will do!
[04:04] <Tedd> Hi.
[04:04] <blizzkid> idiot, start a terminal and type uname -r and tell us what it says
[04:04] <Tedd> Wow, lotsa people need help, huh
[04:04] <Tedd> I'll wait 'till someone can help.
[04:04] <idiot> 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic
[04:04] <trappist> Tedd: no one will be able to help until you ask a question
[04:04] <navarone> Tedd> just ask and someone will try to help if they can
[04:04] <Plus-V-ducky> idiot, it can tweak your system, but I bet it's your BIOS (CPU clock issues usually are)
[04:04] <idiot> I already checked.
[04:04] <Tedd> Well, it seems that for some reason it just won't take the disk.
[04:04] <idiot> I booted into windows, it sees 2.20ghz
[04:04] <idiot> its not the bios
[04:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's probably a kernel/bios interaction thing
[04:05] <idiot> linux sees it at 999mhz, windows sees it as 2.2ghz
[04:05] <Tedd> I've already changed the BIOS option to load IDE first.
[04:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> unless it feels crap, don't worry to much
[04:05] <Stormx2> idiot: haha
[04:05] <idiot> it feels like crap -_-
[04:05] <Stormx2> Anyone noticed how ubuntu is slowly taking over gnome-look.org ?
[04:05] <idiot> i am missing out on more then half my processor.
[04:06] <Dribbel> Hi!
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> anyone know where i can find a nice simple chroot howto?
[04:06] <LeeJunFan> idiot: it's probably power saving, it will only turn your processor up when it needs to be, you aren't missing anything.
[04:06] <mikul> ok, i will try again. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4915
[04:06] <idiot> LeeJunFan - I don't think so
[04:06] <idiot> when I needed it, it stayed the same.
[04:06] <idiot> how can I turn off power saving?
[04:06] <mikul> i get that when i run apt-get update
[04:06] <Plus-V-ducky> idiot, no idea then --I don't have any fancy new 64-bit hardware to play with here (closest I've come was choot or BSD root jail shell accounts)
[04:07] <LeeJunFan> idiot: is it a laptop?
[04:07] <idiot> no
[04:07] <idiot> Desktop computer.
[04:07] <Plus-V-ducky> LeeJunFan, with amd64 ?
[04:07] <Tedd> Anybody got any ideas? I changed the BIOS settings but it just won't load the disk in.
[04:07] <LeeJunFan> Plus-V-ducky:  mine is :)
[04:07] <idiot> how can i turn off power options
[04:07] <Plus-V-ducky> LeeJunFan, idiot has an amd64 'desktop'.
[04:07] <navarone> what comamnd to see what processor linuc sees?
[04:07] <Ueuecoyotl> Does anyone here use Psi (http://psi-im.org)?
[04:07] <da_shrewd> hello
[04:07] <navarone> linux*
[04:08] <Latone> so with the apache up and running and folders working ... do I just have someone out the network got to <ipaddress><folder> to see website?
[04:08] <da_shrewd> i have problem
[04:08] <da_shrewd> anybody can help me?
[04:08] <Plus-V-ducky> navarone, you'd have to cat something or use an applet
[04:08] <blizzkid> da_shrewd, maybe if you tell us what your problem is
[04:08] <idiot> How can I turn off power saving in Linux
[04:10] <Dribbel> Where are the ubuntu firewall/port settings? I enabled a ssh server (and it is running, and working for useder@localhoast) but i can;t connect from anyt other pc on my lan. It says connecrion refused to port 20. Any suggestions?
[04:10] <Tedd> Hmm.
[04:10] <hawking> am i evil?
[04:10] <hawking> yes I am
[04:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> Dribbel: is it listening on a public ip?
[04:10] <idiot> How can I turn off power saving in Linux
[04:10] <Plus-V-ducky> idiot, do you mean apm | apci pwoersaving (suspend-resume crap)?
[04:10] <LeeJunFan> idiot: try this: sudo echo "performance" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[04:10] <casola> ciao
[04:10] <Agrajag> Dribbel: port 20?
[04:10] <Agrajag> ssh doesn't run on 20
[04:10] <da_shrewd> blizzkid,i have problem with my cd-rom
[04:11] <casola> ciao
[04:11] <Seveas> da_shrewd, be more specific...
[04:11] <blizzkid> da_shrewd, I have problem with pants
[04:11] <scud_> aloha pantas
[04:11] <idiot> Huh
[04:11] <Dribbel> duh, 22 ofcourse:   ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection refused
[04:11] <pantas> helo
[04:11] <idiot> oh
[04:11] <Dribbel> my bad
[04:11] <idiot> Now what
[04:11] <pantas> l
[04:11] <indigirl1> why 12 (3x4) repositories (excluding src) in breezy - this seems like more than before.
[04:11] <LeeJunFan> idiot: check your speed.
[04:12] <nxv_> can anybody tell me how to use truetype fonts with aterm?
[04:12] <da_shrewd> last week,before i upgrade my ubuntu,i can play audio cd with my cd-rom
[04:12] <LeeJunFan> idiot: and just how are you checking your speed?
[04:12] <idiot> ooooo
[04:12] <idiot> it worked.
[04:12] <idiot> now it says cpu MHz         : 2199.840
[04:12] <idiot> :)
[04:12] <idiot> Will it say like this when I reboot?
[04:12] <Tedd> Can anybody help me out? The disc that I burned Ubuntu to just won't load. It doesn't even recognize it.
[04:12] <da_shrewd> but now,after upgrade,my cd-rom doesn't detect any cd
[04:12] <LeeJunFan> idiot: no, but now we have an idea of what's doing it.
[04:12] <idiot> whats doing it =(
[04:13] <navarone> Plus-V-Ducky> In System/Admin/Devices  I can see the processor listed in entries but it gives no info. However in Adnaced tab it states something like "processor_throttle"  "false". Would I be wrong to assume that this means the os cannot dynamically lower processor speed to save power? That may be idiot's prob as was suggested if amd 64bit arch supports throttling processor...just a thought
[04:13] <blizzkid> Tedd, did you burn cd from image or just put the iso on a cd?
[04:13] <Tedd> Oooh.
[04:13] <Tedd> I burned the ISO onto a CD.
[04:13] <Tedd> Sorry. I was wondering what that meant.
[04:13] <LeeJunFan> idiot: powernowd probably.
[04:13] <Tedd> (I'm a bit new at this, sorry.)
[04:13] <LeeJunFan> idiot: remove it if you have it.
[04:13] <idiot> let me check.
[04:13] <idiot> Yeah I have it
[04:13] <indigirl1> repositories seem redundant -- why an update repository
[04:14] <LeeJunFan> idiot: sudo apt-get remove powernowd
[04:14] <da_shrewd> any respon from my problem?
[04:14] <idiot> k
[04:14] <navarone> Lee> check my post above to see if it makes sense plz...:)
[04:14] <idiot> All gone
[04:14] <blizzkid> Tedd, no need to apologize
[04:14] <LeeJunFan> idiot: then it shouldn't put it into a power saving mode on your next boot.
[04:14] <idiot> now if I restart my CPU speed should be @ 2.2
[04:14] <LeeJunFan> idiot: should be.
[04:14] <Tedd> So what would 'burn the cd from image' mean?
[04:14] <idiot> Ok, let me try ;) thx for your help
[04:14] <Plus-V-ducky> Ask LeeJunFan.  I really have no clue about that as I've never had the chance to play with it.  Though I'm following this with interest as I've install Ubuntu on a customer's powerstepping Centrino laptop to get him to consider using Linux.
[04:14] <blizzkid> Tedd, what burning software do you use?
[04:15] <Tedd> The standard Windows one.
[04:15] <da_shrewd> any respon from my problem?
[04:15] <Tedd> It doesn't really have a name.
[04:15] <da_shrewd> last week,before i upgrade my ubuntu,i can play audio cd with my cd-rom
[04:15] <Tedd> What should I try?
[04:15] <Tedd> Roxio?
[04:15] <da_shrewd> but now,after upgrade,my cd-rom doesn't detect any cd
[04:15] <blizzkid> Tedd, search microsoft.com for the iso-burner or get a demo of nero
[04:15] <Tedd> Iso-Burner. Got it. Thanks a lot.
[04:15] <Plus-V-ducky> navarone, what you say *sounds* reasonable, but your guess is better than mine
[04:16] <navarone> Plus> I doubt that...lol
[04:16] <mon> hi. gnome-panel often takes up more Ram (~100M) than Xorg. could this be because of a specific applet and if so how do i find out which?
[04:16] <da_shrewd> somebody,please help me
[04:16] <da_shrewd> anybody?
[04:16] <Plus-V-ducky> navarone, I believe Ubuntu *does* support throttling from something I've read, but maybe it needs a package
[04:16] <da_shrewd> nobody? :(
[04:17] <Tedd> Nothing from Microsoft on Iso-Burner and jesus CHRIST is it cold in here.
[04:17] <idiot> It worked, thanks.
[04:17] <LeeJunFan> idiot: yer welcome.
[04:17] <blizzkid> Tedd, download a demo of nero
[04:17] <kandoora_> does anyone know anything about flash for linux f4l
[04:17] <navarone> Plus> probably the thing Lee told idiot to remove
[04:17] <hoopotus> how do I acticate the recovery-mode???
[04:17] <hoopotus> *activate
[04:17] <Tedd> Hmm. Before going that far, would this work blizzkid
[04:17] <Tedd> http://www.download.com/Instant-CD-DVD-Burner/3000-2646_4-10454016.html?tag=lst-0-1
[04:17] <Matrice64> I have the same problem too, I burned ubuntu from image using k3b and the cd won't boot although I can read the cd and see all the files :S
[04:17] <Tedd> It says in the subject 'and ISO files'.
[04:17] <da_shrewd> seveas,can u help me?
[04:18] <da_shrewd> i need ur help
[04:18] <Plus-V-ducky> Certainly they've aimed right at laptops with STR and STD (no pun intended), bluetooth, and broadcom/ndiswrapper support
[04:18] <ClayG> anyone know a good program to convert a .bin into a mpg?
[04:18] <ClayG> if it is an mpg, of coarse