[11:42] <chloe> purging the images won't free the /usr/src directory
[11:42] <bekks> chloe: Correct.
[11:43] <bekks> chloe: As you stated above, correctly, the images do not use /usr/src/
[11:43] <chloe> is it wise to use rm -r the directories in /usr/src?
[11:43] <Deep> in HP Total care laptop not able to see boot menu with ubuntu 14.04
[11:44] <bekks> chloe: No.
[11:44] <Deep> in HP Total care laptop not able to see boot menu with ubuntu 14.04
[11:44] <bekks> chloe: Purge the header packages.
[11:44] <Deep> in HP Total care laptop not able to see boot menu with ubuntu 14.04 help
[11:44] <Deep> in HP Total care laptop not able to see boot menu with ubuntu 14.04
[11:44] <Deep> in HP Total care laptop not able to see boot menu with ubuntu 14.04
[11:44] <bekks> Deep: Please stop repeating every 15 seconds.
[11:46] <Jazzy_J> Deep, Have you disabled Fast Boot within Windows 8 and changed secure boot in the BIOS?
[11:48] <Deep> Jazzy, yes i did
[11:48] <bq_> how to add my user as sudo user?
[11:49] <baizon> bq_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/7477/how-can-i-add-a-new-user-as-sudoer-using-the-command-line
[11:49] <Jazzy_J> Deep, when I set up a multi-boot with Win 8.1, it seems that I used a utility that ran in Windows that fixed the boot sequence.
[11:51] <Deep> jazzy, what utility is that ?
[11:55] <Jazzy_J> Follow this:  http://tinyurl.com/qam9wzj  It is for 15.04, but boot-repair is what I used.  It's a *nix tool run from with ubuntu.  you have to add the ppa to get the tool.
[11:56] <TechMonger> is there any information gathering command in windows like facter?
[11:57] <Ben64> TechMonger: might want to ask ##windows about that
[11:58] <TechMonger> waiting on response
[11:59] <Jazzy_J> TechMonger, are you looking for a FOSS solution?
[12:01] <Jazzy_J> For an enterprise-level soloution we are using LANDesk Management Suite.
[12:01] <TechMonger> what is foss
[12:02] <Jazzy_J> Free and Open-source Software - *nix is FOSS, LibreOffice is FOSS.  Microsoft and Apple products are not.
[12:03] <Ben64> windows software isn't on topic here
[12:04] <EriC^^> mannio: the ppa's were being used with utopic and now with vivid
[12:05] <EriC^^> mannio: vivid might not be supported
[12:05] <larryone> Hi All, I'm looking at 15.04 AMIs in Amazon
[12:06] <larryone> they're labeled as 15.04 DEVEL
[12:06] <larryone> is that just a matter of a field not being updated?
[12:06] <coraxx> So, does anyone know the command "inoticoming" ... I'm having problem with file exclusion ...can't seem to get the --regexp parameter to work ...can anyone help please ?
[12:06] <larryone> or are those images ok for production systems?
[12:06] <EriC^^> mannio: they
[12:07] <EriC^^> they're pretty old, maybe there are new ppa's you can use with vivid?
[12:08] <mannio> :o doing some googling right now
[12:08] <EriC^^> mannio: you should probably comment them out so you don't get errors on sudo apt-get update
[12:09] <EriC^^> mannio: type sudo sed -i 's/^deb/# deb/' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[12:09] <mannio> done
[12:10] <mannio> niiice no errors now
[12:15] <EriC^^> mannio: there's one that isn't version-specific, type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
[12:15] <EriC^^> and remove the comment ( # ) before deb, so you can use it again so it updates chrome
[12:16] <convict> Anyone ever have part of their screen freeze because of libnotify?
[12:16] <mannio> alright removed how do i save and exit
[12:17] <EriC^^> mannio: press ctrl+o then hit enter, then ctrl+x to exit
[12:17] <mannio> alright done
[12:18] <bq_> when I install docker, i got this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11872170/
[12:26] <donofrio__> maybe I need more coffee but why is my chown failing - http://paste.debian.net/281900/
[12:27] <teward> donofrio__: sudo/superuser to change to a group/owner not of the user, perhaps?
[12:27] <donofrio__> I'm a member of that group
[12:27] <teward> donofrio__: your chown is changing the owner user
[12:27] <teward> not the group or such
[12:28] <teward> likely your standard user can't assign to it - i see the same issue from time to time in my environments
[12:28] <donofrio__> right want to change to appinfuser from donofrio (who I'm logged in as)
[12:28] <donofrio__> so how to assign?  if no sudo
[12:29] <donofrio__> I figured if I owned them I could reassign them
[12:29] <Guest99726> no. only root might do that.
[12:30] <donofrio__> more coffee....can't wrap head around that
[12:30] <donofrio__> if I own I shoudl be able to reassign (you'd think)
[12:30] <teward> donofrio__: only superuser powers can reassign the owner user
[12:30] <teward> (fwiw, Windows is the same way - you can't change the owner user without administrator privileges)
[12:31] <Guest99726> donofrio__: no, otherwise a malicious program could change the owner on all files and lock you out
[12:32] <Guest99726> (on all files in your home directory, most likely, that is)
[12:33] <donofrio__> no it's a file/directory off the root called app
[12:34] <donofrio__> ok well I'll request root for a day but was thinkin - thanks
[12:34] <Guest99726> well, whereever a file is doesn't make a difference. typically almost all files in a user's home directory are owned by that user, though
[12:37] <Guest18102> guys, does anyone know how does linux cp command work internally??
[12:38] <Guest18102> is anyone there?
[12:38] <EriC^^> Guest18102: why?
[12:39] <Guest18102> how does linux cp command work internally??
[12:39] <EriC^^> why do you ask?
[12:39] <ioria> Guest18102, i think opening a read stream and a write stream
[12:39] <Guest18102> i'm implementing a mini linux shell,
[12:40] <Guest18102> @ioria can you be precise??
[12:40] <ioria> Guest18102, system calls
[12:41] <nnarol> Hi! What do I have to do to make a self-written application that is in executable form execute on another machine?
[12:41] <ioria> Guest18102, int fd=0; open, read and write ... in C you find FILE *fd, fopen, fwrite etc. etc
[12:41] <EriC^^> nnarol: make sure it has the same architecture on the other machine, and all the necessary libraries
[12:42] <ioria> Guest18102, if you google linux system calls, you find tons
[12:43] <Guest18102> @ioria, thanks
[12:43] <nnarol> Eric: it is a very simple app made in python. Could it be that it requires other things than the libraries for accessed through the modules that have been imported?
[12:43] <ioria> Guest18102, you're welcome
[12:43] <nnarol> EriC: If no, it has all it needs on the target machine.
[12:46] <EriC^^> nnarol: honestly i don't know
[12:46] <EriC^^> Guest18102: if you use strace you can probably see what cp actually does
[12:46] <EriC^^> Guest18102: strace cp <source> <dest>
[12:46] <Guest62410> hello
[12:46] <linux> heeeeee
[12:47] <Guest18102> guys one question> i have a program which implements linux commands, how do i make this program to execute when i click on actual linux termianl.
[12:47] <Guest62410> i have been trying to install irrlicht engine for the entire day now and none of google is helping me
[12:47] <rtreleaven> nnarol try to run the program and see where it dumps out
[12:47] <Guest62410> im at a loss of what to do
[12:48] <nnarol> rtreleaven: As I mentioned, on my machine it works perfectly.
[12:48] <rtreleaven> try on the target machine
[12:48] <rtreleaven> nnarol ^
[12:48] <nnarol> rteleaven: And the target machine is around 600 miles away from me.
[12:49] <rtreleaven> ssh is your friend
[12:49] <nnarol> rtreleaven: Unfortunatelz, I cannot use it, because I am not a programmer.
[12:49] <rtreleaven> but you wrote the python script?
[12:49] <nnarol> rtreleaven: If I would be, I would just bundle it into a package.
[12:50] <nnarol> rtreleaven: I did, but it's just a ca. 270 line app, which I made as a hobby.
[12:51] <EriC^^> nnarol: what does trying it using ssh have to do with programming?
[12:51] <rtreleaven> either you shell into the target system to see what is causing the script to fail or have someone at that end run it and tell you what is failing
[12:51] <EriC^^> nnarol: does the target pc have a ssh server running?
[12:52] <nnarol> EriC: I don't know.
[12:52] <ManicPanic> can i install Ubuntu from a Mobile phone's SD CARD via USB drive ?
[12:52] <EriC^^> nnarol: try ssh <user>@<host>
[12:52] <dingus778> hi every one , i have a quick question
[12:52] <nnarol> rteleaven: Thanks, I think I thought of something else: I also have a Debian virtual machine.
[12:53] <dingus778> what is the main command to install a file from a zip/tar file
[12:54] <EriC^^> dingus778: tar -xvf <file> should untar and decompress it
[12:55] <rtreleaven> nnarol just because you can get your script running in your vm does not mean it will run on the target
[12:56] <nnarol> EriC: Thanks for the help anyway. Could you enlighten me on some aspects of file permissions?
[12:56] <Guest18102> guys one question> i have a program which implements linux commands, how do i make this program to run when i click on actual linux termianl?
[12:57] <nnarol> rtreleaven: I know, but it might help me make the program completely self-sufficient.
[12:58] <jzxc> hi
[13:01] <zync> Guest18102: what kind of program?
[13:01] <grantd> Guest18102, chmod +x script and can make one link " link /usr/local/bin/script Name" i think its work
[13:01] <moobase> is it dangerous to cancel ftrim? I'll make a ftrim cron which could get cancelled when I shut down mah computah
[13:03] <Guest18102> @grantd, are you sure it will work??
[13:05] <grantd> Guest18102, for make it executable yes
[13:05] <Guest18102> @grantd, i din't get you?
[13:06] <grantd> Guest18102, yeahs im sure it wil work
[13:06] <grantd> yeas*
[13:06] <rtreleaven> nnarol it is a python program so it will at least depend on the interpreter
[13:07] <nnarol> rteeleaven: the target machine has an appropriate python version installed.
[13:08] <nnarol> rteeleaven: also, I would think that making an executable with cxfreeze should circumvent any problems stemming from dependencies.
[13:08] <nnarol> rteeleaven: Though granted, I don't know.
[13:09] <moobase> why not just not trim your ssd? Performance is barely affected. You lose 10% performance tops.
[13:10] <easyOnMe> bekks: what shall I do to prevent this from happening: http://imgur.com/JIKBPpc
[13:10] <easyOnMe> what i mean is I want to change that to something else whenever 404 error shows up
[13:10] <easyOnMe> I want to create my own page to render when a 404 error shows up
[13:11] <Guest18102> @grantd, should i write " link /usr/local/bin/script Name" on the terminal
[13:12] <Skyrider> Any support here for (future) ubuntu raspberry users?
[13:13] <easyOnMe> histo: what shall I do to prevent this from happening: http://imgur.com/JIKBPpc
[13:13] <easyOnMe> I want to create my own page to render when a 404 error shows up
[13:13] <easyOnMe> instead of the default page shown in the image
[13:14] <Skyrider> mmhh, apache..
[13:14] <Guest18102> @grantd are you there??
[13:14] <Guest18102> its not working!!
[13:14] <Skyrider> easyOnMe familiar with the root path?
[13:15] <Skyrider> Edit /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf and look for the root path (eg: /var/www)
[13:15] <Guest18102> guys anyone, how to run custom terminal instead of gnome terminal??
[13:15] <Skyrider> or in your case, /home/kindergartenone"
[13:16] <easyOnMe> Skyrider: not that much
[13:16] <easyOnMe> Skyrider: can you help me please
[13:16] <Skyrider> It's apache, I'm very limited in that area.
[13:16] <nnarol> rtreleaven: btw the result of the compilation this mentioned cx-freeze application did is several files including around 14 .so files in a folder together with the executable, which makes me think that it should contain all it needs.
[13:17] <Skyrider> I'm more of a nginx person
[13:17] <easyOnMe> I am really struggling with routes man
[13:17] <Skyrider> I'll PM you and 'try' to help.
[13:17] <easyOnMe> Skyrider: ok thanks
[13:17] <nnarol> rtreleaven: there are also a lot of .enc files for encoding protocols and what-not.
[13:18] <rtreleaven> nnarol good luck
[13:18] <grantd> Guest18102, that command its for create one link only
[13:19] <Guest18102> but its not working..
[13:19] <grantd> Guest18102, im there but on work, sometimes i dont see so fast keep calm :)
[13:19] <Guest18102> @grantd,okay
[13:19] <nnarol> rtrleaven, EriC: Thanks for the help, I'll look to see of there are cxfreeze channels on Freenode.
[13:21] <nnarol> rtrleaven, EriC: Or maybe pythonistas...
[13:24] <pbx> i'm looking for a launcher similar to osx's launchbar or quicksliver. i've been using kupfer for a year but it's abandoned. gnome do was ok but not great (and i want to contribute but don't speak c#). synapse?  any other good ones?
[13:30] <iason> Back. I asked earlier, being worried that my drivers are not working properly, if intel HD graphics drivers come on default with Ubuntu. k1l_ told me that they do. However, trying to run a game on steam (using OpenGL), I get too many crashes and extreme lag. What should I do?
[13:34] <phpNoob_> anyone had problems with vagrant trying to access phpmyadmin and getting to download a file called "download" with php code?
[13:35] <rami_> heey
[13:35] <hobbet1> pbx i dont know of an alternative but maybe this website might help you find one http://alternativeto.net/
[13:35] <rami_> i need some help
[13:36] <rami_> can anyone help me
[13:36] <EriC^^> with what?
[13:36] <rami_> see i downloaded cinnamon
[13:36] <linux> i can't help you
[13:37] <rami_> but its telling me that it just crashed it gives me an option to restart but it crash then too
[13:37] <rami_> i dont have access to any command line either
[13:37] <MatthiasM2> hello, I'm installing SW updates on Ubuntu 15.04 and the progress stopped at "setting up grub-pc (2.02~beta2-9ubuntu1.3) ..." and the update window has turned a dark grey shade
[13:38] <MatthiasM2> rami_: have you tried one of the Linux consoles (ctrl-alt-F1) ?
[13:38] <manny> Hello can someone help me,after power outage im getting no sound just static
[13:39] <EriC^^> rami_: you're using mint?
[13:39] <rami_> cinnamon
[13:40] <EriC^^> ubuntu or mint?
[13:40] <rami_> ubuntu
[13:40] <pbx> hobbet1, thanks, no new leads there.  synapse it is.
[13:40] <EriC^^> ok, you're logging into it from lightdm?
[13:41] <rami_> idk really i just got it XD i clicked on the ubuntu sign in the ubuntu log in and pressed cinnamon and now all i does is crash
[13:41] <larryone> is ubottu.com down?
[13:41] <manny> Hello can someone help me,after power outage im getting no sound just static
[13:41] <rami_> CTRL + ALT + T doesnt work to open terminal window
[13:42] <EriC^^> rami_: do you have another de you can login to?
[13:42] <phpNoob_> sudo ln -s /usr/share/phpmyadmin/ /var/www is giving me Protocol error
[13:42] <phpNoob_> Why protocol error
[13:42] <EriC^^> press the right corner on the login screen to change the de ram
[13:42] <EriC^^> rami_
[13:42] <rami_> i mean i can shut the pc down and log onto my regular ubuntu
[13:42] <EriC^^> ok, do that
[13:43] <rami_> what do i do then because i dont have Xchat on there :/
[13:43] <EriC^^> how are you talking right now?
[13:43] <EriC^^> you should have xchat there too, it's system-wide
[13:44] <rami_> i found it on cinnamon i can try to find it on my ubuntu i havent really gotten used o it cx
[13:44] <rami_> brb
[13:44] <moobase> A script that tar some_dir --> backup-noX ... do people do that anymore? :P
[13:47] <rami_> heey okay on my ubuntu now
[13:48] <EriC^^> rami_: ok, type cat /vat/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:49] <rami_> in files?
[13:50] <rami_> found it
[13:50] <EriC^^> rami_: open a terminal and type it
[13:51] <EriC^^> and it should give you a link
[13:52] <rami_> tells me "/vat/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:52] <rami_> bash: /vat/log/syslog: No such file or directory"
[13:52] <EriC^^> rami_: add cat
[13:52] <EriC^^> cat /var/log ...
[13:53] <moobase> worth reformatting my secondary hd to GPT (is MBR), do you do that? why even care? Don't need GPT the features, but I've read that its format makes the file tree safer and easier to recover
[13:53] <rami_> same thing
[13:53] <EriC^^> rami_: paste exactly what it said
[13:53] <rami_> usage: nc [-46bCDdhjklnrStUuvZz] [-I length] [-i interval] [-O length]
[13:53] <rami_> 	  [-P proxy_username] [-p source_port] [-q seconds] [-s source]
[13:53] <rami_> 	  [-T toskeyword] [-V rtable] [-w timeout] [-X proxy_protocol]
[13:53] <rami_> 	  [-x proxy_address[:port]] [destination] [port]
[13:53] <rami_> Use netcat.
[13:55] <EriC^^> rami_: type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[13:56] <Skyrider> Any users familiar here with ubuntu with raspberry?
[13:57] <rami_> okay done
[13:59] <rami_> EriC^^: installed it
[14:00] <EriC^^> rami_: ok, type pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[14:00] <rami_> premission denied
[14:02] <moobase> why would I want anything else than rsync to backup a few things to my secondary harddrive?
[14:02] <rami_> eric its not giving me premission even as root
[14:03] <rami_> okay opened it
[14:07] <Firefly67> Hi, I cannot install chrome. It can't install libappindicator1 and libindicator7
[14:09] <Ellon> hi
[14:10] <iason> is there some command that will return my ubuntu to day 1? like the way they were once they were installed, and remove all the files I added, packets and configurations.
[14:10] <iason> or should I just re-install them?
[14:11] <EriC^^> rami_: pastebinit /var/log/syslog isn't working?
[14:11] <tr00p> iason: mkfs.ext4 <your root partition> :p
[14:13] <Ellon> Hi what OS you recommend for 1gb ram, 128mb video laptop?
[14:13] <iason> Could not stat sda2 --- No such file or directory and The device apparently does not exist; did you specify it correctly? tr00p that's what was returned
[14:14] <iason> i will just re-install. no big deal. thanks anyway
[14:17] <Ellon> hello
[14:17] <Ellon> anyone?
[14:17] <Ellon> anyone recommend lightweight OS?
[14:18] <k1l_> !lubuntu | Ellon
[14:18] <k1l_> oh, bot is gone. Ellon Lubuntu is the lightweight version of ubuntu
[14:19] <hobbet1> looks like k1l_ will have to do the work of the bot and explain lol
[14:20] <EriC^^> rami_: it looks as if it's trying to use mir? are you using mir? how did you install cinnamon?
[14:20] <easyOnMe> I am using ssh on the terminal
[14:21] <easyOnMe> why does it keeps hanging up if you are not able to use it for say 2 mins
[14:21] <easyOnMe> is there anything I can do to stop the terminal from not responding if unused for 2 mins
[14:23] <nicomachus> what, ubottu is gone?
[14:23] <Firefly67> Hi can someone help me install chrome?
[14:23] <Firefly67> software center says "Requires installation of untrusted packages"
[14:28] <nicomachus> Firefly67: did you download Chrome from here? https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/
[14:29] <Firefly67> I tried that, through the software center, and the apt-get route
[14:29] <Firefly67> seems to have issues with libappindicator1 and libindicator7
[14:29] <nicomachus> ok. download the .deb package from that website, and save it in your Home folder. then go to a terminal and type 'sudo dpkg -i filename.deb'
[14:31] <nicomachus> replacing 'filename.deb' with the actual filename, of course.
[14:32] <Firefly67> nicomachus, I get this message: "Errors were encountered while processing: google-chrome-stable"
[14:35] <nicomachus> can you paste the full output at paste.ubuntu.com and then link that here please?
[14:36] <Firefly67> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11872724/
[14:37] <nicomachus> ok, run 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[14:37] <nicomachus> are you on a 32 bit machine?
[14:40] <Firefly67> no, 64
[14:40] <Firefly67> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[14:40] <Firefly67> I tried both and neither worked
[14:40] <_Man_Panic_> can i upgrade Ubuntu 12.04 to Ubuntu 14.04 without reinstalling it on DVD ?
[14:41] <nicomachus> you ran apt-get update and what happened?
[14:41] <nicomachus> And also, Firefly67, you downloaded the 32-bit package of chrome. might wanna go back and download the 64-bit. it will end in amd64 instead of i386
[14:42] <nicomachus> _Man_Panic_: yes you can. its recommended to backup first.
[14:42] <Firefly67> nicomachus, ok, trying that
[14:44] <_Man_Panic_>  nicomachus: so when i press Upgrade button. Will it download the 14.04  version and install it in the old 12.04 partition ? Or will windows be damaged too ?
[14:44] <RaMcHiP> Good morning all!
[14:44] <nicomachus> It shouldn't damage Windows.
[14:46] <_Man_Panic_>  nicomachus: i dont want to backup. Just install newer version of Ubuntu. So it can remove everything in Ubuntu partition
[14:46] <RaMcHiP> How is everyone doing?  Been awhile since I could hang in here :/.  Shop came really close to getting flooded last week so been cleaning up damages.
[14:46] <RaMcHiP> BRB reboot
[14:48] <nicomachus> _Man_Panic_: if you aren't concerned about losing your data, then go ahead and update.
[14:48] <nicomachus> it will take awhile, fyi.
[14:49] <_Man_Panic_>  nicomachus: the laptop only have 1GB RAM. I actually want Xubuntu for it. But i have to install Ubuntu 14.04 first so Xubuntu 14.04 can work
[14:50] <nicomachus> never heard that before, but I have 0 experience with xubuntu.
[14:50] <_Man_Panic_>  nicomachus: okay thanks
[14:51] <baizon> _Man_Panic_: why have you to install ubuntu first?
[14:52] <_Man_Panic_> baizon: i think maybe Xubuntu 14.04 need Ubuntu 14.04 runtime to work. I guessing only
[14:52] <baizon> nope, doesnt need ubuntu
[14:53] <baizon> xubuntu doesnt depend on ubuntu
[14:54] <_Man_Panic_> baizon: so can i download Xubuntu 14.04 from Ubuntu 12.04 and then install Xubuntu 14.04 that way ?
[14:54] <station> ewewew
[14:54] <nicomachus> _Man_Panic_: if you're trying to install Xubuntu OVERTOP of ubuntu 12.04, you will need a live cd.
[14:54] <baizon> _Man_Panic_: im always doing it that way. I just don't format /home
[14:55] <tonyt> fresh install is always the best
[14:55] <nicomachus> ^
[14:56] <_Man_Panic_> nicomachus: CD drive on laptop not working. Xubuntu 12.04 is on login menu too.
[14:56] <_Man_Panic_> baizon: i dont understand how you do it
[14:57] <_Man_Panic_> So i need full Ubuntu 14.04 runtime first i guess. So will Upgrade it from update manager.
[14:58] <_Man_Panic_> then install Xubuntu 14.04 after that
[14:58]  * gnomed is back to ubuntu after couple of years on Mint
[15:01] <nicomachus> _Man_Panic_: can you use a USB?
[15:01] <AbbyA> Hai
[15:02] <AbbyA> I'm trying to reproduce a customer's bug in an Ubuntu 12.04 VM
[15:02] <AbbyA> I'm trying to get the same kernel version as them, but my system seems to be running on 3.13.0-57-generic and the package says <IP_ADDRESS>.25
[15:03] <AbbyA> Are the Linux generic package versions the same as the Linux kernel versions?
[15:03] <AbbyA> The Linux version I want to be running is 3.13.0-52-generic #86~precise1-Ubuntu SMP. How do I accomplish this?
[15:04] <_Man_Panic_> nicomachus: yes i run ethernet from usb
[15:06] <nicomachus> _Man_Panic_: if you have a spare USB drive around, create a live USB on it with Xubuntu 14.04 and then use that Live USB to install Xubuntu on your PC
[15:07] <_Man_Panic_> nicomachus: i dont have that.
[15:08] <nicomachus> don't have what?
[15:08] <_Man_Panic_> nicomachus: can i use my phone as a drive via usb ?
[15:09] <_Man_Panic_> a USB drive
[15:09] <nicomachus> _Man_Panic_: if your phone is rooted, you can use an app called DriveDroid. that's the only option I know of.
[15:09] <nicomachus> and I've never used it myself.
[15:10] <nicomachus> Firefly67: did you get Chrome installed?
[15:10] <_Man_Panic_> nicomachus: oh ok. I dont think that will work with the Android runtime on Blackberry 10.
[15:13] <nicomachus> heh, nope.
[15:13] <_Man_Panic_> nicomachus: but what is the Downside of pressing the "Upgrade" button. When upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04 ? WIll the 1GB RAM be the bottleneck ?
[15:14] <nicomachus> you have ubuntu 12.04 currently, right?
[15:14] <_Man_Panic_> yes
[15:15] <nicomachus> then it's just going to install 14.04. 1GB RAM is a bit low.
[15:16] <nicomachus> but it should work.
[15:17] <_Man_Panic_> nicomachus: yes it is. But i will install Xubuntu 14.04 immediatly there after
[15:18] <apb1963> Today's random tip is a double.  Krusader is an awesome file manager.  I installed it today and suddenly I like using a file manager again.  Looks a lot like the old Norton tool for Windows.  It's in universe.  Also, mega.co.nz provides 50GB free storage space.  I found them today, and signed up today.  Read their "About Us".  I have no affiliation with either of these things, just trying to help you guys out with what in my opinion are awesome
[15:18] <apb1963> products - and yet free!
[15:19]  * nomic uses nautilus
[15:19]  * gnomed too
[15:21]  * nicomachus too
[15:27] <trelane`> post Bacon, who's the Community Manager at Ubuntu/Canonicle?
[15:27] <Ellon> Praise the Lord
[15:28] <trelane`> Ellon: if you do that too much you'll end up more fired than the Mozilla CEO :-p
[15:28] <bishops> Please someone help. I have an annoying signal that says "no public key" everytime I try to update my repositories.  I think I have tried this one..
[15:29] <apb1963> Ellon: Its Board of Directors.
[15:30] <tgm4883> !OT
[15:30] <trelane`> bishops, it's self documenting iirc, or 'man apt-key' :)
[15:30] <Ellon> trelane` isn't that ridicilous
[15:30] <Ellon> trelane` smells like conspiracy
[15:31] <bishops> trelane`: I already tried this actually..
[15:31] <trelane`> bishops, conceptually you're going to need to check and see what keys are in your apt keyring, and figure out which key apt doesn't have.  Then use apt-key to retrieve it :)
[15:31] <bishops> trelane`: using apt-key I tried to request the particular keys missing by copy pasting them. it says it retrieved them but then when I update I still get the same output!
[15:31] <Ellon> Mozilla CEO did right thing... America need more pro traditional marriage support
[15:32] <trelane`> bishops, have you used apt-key to confirm they're in the keyring?  Perhaps used it to delete the key in the ring, and re-install it?
[15:32] <nicomachus> !ot | Ellon
[15:32] <bishops> trelane`: can you tell me how without me having to read the whole thing?
[15:33] <trelane`> bishops: I don't have a running ubuntu in front of me or I would.  I'm actually trying to track down their Community Manager.
[15:33] <Firefly67> nicomachus, sorry I went afk for a bit, but same problems with 64-bit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11872955/
[15:34] <ioria> bishops, wha't in your /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d  ?
[15:34] <bishops> trelane`: one question: could it have to do with some ppa blocking the process?
[15:34] <trelane`> bishops, without seeing the output I can't answer that :)
[15:34] <Pici> trelane`: #ubuntu-community-team would be the best place to ask
[15:34] <nicomachus> Ok, Firefly67, you're making progress. :) Now 'sudo apt-get install libappindicator1'
[15:34] <bishops> trelane`: should I paste bin it?
[15:35] <trelane`> bishops, that or mail me your computer :-p
[15:35] <trelane`> pastebin is faster
[15:35] <nicomachus> lol
[15:36] <trelane`> Pici, thanks!
[15:36] <Firefly67> nicomachus, The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[15:36] <Firefly67>  libappindicator1 : Depends: libindicator7 (>= 0.4.90) but it is not going to be installed
[15:36] <Firefly67> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[15:36] <ioria> seems a bug  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1263540
[15:36] <Firefly67> so I did apt-get -f install
[15:36] <bishops> trelane`: haha ok here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11872975/
[15:36] <nicomachus> Firefly67: Ok, then 'sudo apt-get -f install' again
[15:36] <Firefly67> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[15:37] <nicomachus> Firefly67: make sure you're doing the -f install as sudo.
[15:37] <Firefly67> nicomachus, yes doing everythin as sudo. Now doing sudo apt-get update again
[15:37] <trelane`> bishops: check the apt-key keyring for 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[15:38] <trelane`> I think this one is probably straightforward.
[15:38] <nicomachus> ok Firefly67. Also try 'sudo apt-get clean'
[15:38] <Saphyel> hello I have one questions about the 1h interview meeting on london
[15:38] <Saphyel> question
[15:38] <bishops> trelane`: one sec, check this first: paste.ubuntu.com/11872986/
[15:38] <sailors> Hi, what'd be a decent way to go about using a newer version of OpenSSL than the one in the repository?
[15:38] <nicomachus> Firefly67: after apt-get update and apt-get clean, try -f install again.
[15:39] <sailors> I'm guessing just building it and plopping the files in the system path folders would be a great way to break everything
[15:39] <Firefly67> nicomachus, same error: E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[15:40] <Saphyel> when will I know if I should go or not?
[15:40] <trelane`> bishops: those "resource limits" messages are bit concerning.  I've never seen those before.
[15:40] <beta_cuckhold> Should I learn Lisp, C or Haskell?
[15:40] <nicomachus> Saphyel: This channel is for Ubuntu support. Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:40] <beta_cuckhold> I'm on Ubuntu.
[15:40] <nicomachus> beta_cuckhold: try ##programming
[15:41] <nicomachus> sailors: you can try the experimental builds at https://www.openssl.org/source/
[15:41] <Saphyel> nicomachus: my question is about Ubuntu...
[15:41] <beta_cuckhold> Will learning C help me use Ubuntu more efficiently?
[15:41] <nicomachus> Saphyel: it's about a conference, not ubuntu technical support.
[15:42] <bishops> trelane`: how concerning?
 If you want to program for Ubuntu and also C++, if you want to build apps for Ubuntu
[15:43] <nicomachus> Firefly67: what was the output of apt-get update?
[15:43] <nicomachus> full output, on a pastebin please.
[15:44] <trelane`> bishops, I've been using gpg and apt for more than 15 years and I've never seen that :)
[15:44] <trelane`> beta_cuckhold, do you know Python?
[15:44] <bishops> trelane`: I'm special what can i say :)
[15:44] <trelane`> bishops, yeah it's always fun being special! :)
[15:45] <trelane`> bishops, It looks like you may have some keys for custom repos in your apt-key ring?  I'd specifically delete those three, and the ubuntu FTP key, then re-import the ubuntu FTP key
[15:45] <bishops> trelane`: yes! no but seriously I wish i can resolve this. maybe I erase all my ppas and start all over?
[15:46] <trelane`> I'd erase the keys first before you start touching the package manager
[15:46] <bishops> trelane`: the problem is that I don't understand how are keys linked to files, etc. theoretically i mean , i still don't understand this system
[15:46] <trelane`> bishops: when a package maintainer releases a package, they sign it with a cryptographic key to prove that they are the one that produced the package.
[15:46] <trelane`> which prevents an unsavory person (like me!) from releasing a package as them and including a rootkit or other badness.
[15:46] <beta_cuckhold> trelane`: I know a little something about Python.
[15:47] <trelane`> beta_cuckhold, Python is just hugely useful, as is BASH.  Once you have those, I'd do C++ given that it seems that Canonical likes it
[15:47] <bishops> trelane`: alright but say I erase all my ppa list and then add them back, will they import different keys again?
[15:47] <beta_cuckhold> trelane`: What about Lisp?
[15:48] <trelane`> bishops, I don't know as I haven't tried it.  In theory you want to make the smallest change possible, then test, which is deleting the key that's throwing the error.
[15:48] <bishops> trelane`: alright i see
[15:50] <bishops> trelane`: i have tried with this program Y-ppa manager, yet still doesn't work. arrghh
[15:50] <nicomachus> Firefly64: looks like apt-get isn't finding the ubuntu server...
[15:50] <Guest30397> hello guys, does anyone one know how to run files from /bin directory.
[15:50] <Guest30397> Files in /bin are stored in executable format.
[15:50] <trelane`> bishops, but that's not what I recommended.  I recommmended using apt-key to remove those keys, and re-install the main ubuntu key
[15:50] <trelane`> your problem isn't ppas
[15:50] <trelane`> its that the keyring is broken
[15:50] <nicomachus> Firefly67: are you connected to the internet?
[15:51] <teward> Guest30397: run the full path?  i.e. /bin/somefile.  Or, make sure that /bin/ is in your $PATH environment variable
[15:51] <Firefly67> yes, nicomachus
[15:51] <bishops> trelane`: how do you remove the keys?
[15:51] <Firefly67> otherwise how could I talk here?
[15:51] <trelane`> bishops, with apt-key :)
[15:51] <nicomachus> Firefly67: good point. lol. Are you in SA?
[15:52] <bishops> trelane`: ah right ok, well off to work then..
[15:53] <bishops> trelane`: just one question, should I just delete the keys that are mentioned in the pastebinit I sent you?
[15:54] <trelane`> bishops, yes, those and the key you are trying to import and cant.  Then re-import the ubuntu ftp key
[15:54] <trelane`> try running apt-get update after that and lets see what you get
[15:56] <bishops> trelane`: deleted them with apt-key del 'key number'. then ran sudo apt-get update, got some result
[15:56] <vvassilev> Hi I have multi isp setup and I keep getting 'dhclient.c:2322: Failed to send 300 byte long packet over fallback interface.' the fixed ip one.
[15:57] <vvassilev> Do I need to make some special settings to dhclient.conf?
[15:57] <bishops> trelane`: oh check this out: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11873061/
[15:57] <trelane`> you removed hte yorba/zedtux keys?
[15:58] <bishops> trelane`: not sure but I have removed the yorba ppa altogether so i don't understand why it is still bugging me!
[15:58] <trelane`> bishops: that's not the same as removing the GPG key from the keyring
[15:58] <trelane`> bishops: repeat after me: this has nothing to do with PPAs...
[15:59] <trelane`> this issue is only related to your apt GPG keyring
[15:59] <bishops> trelane`: hahaha ok i understand, but I used apt-key del "keyid" to remove keys that were listed in the update
[15:59] <bishops> trelane`: so now what?
[16:00] <k1mmyyy> hi, can anyone confirm before i pull the trigger, that this last post (and what it's in response to) is accurate? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2284662&page=3&p=13320099#post13320099
[16:00] <schov> i think i must have a virus or something. comuter reguarly stalls and im forced to reboot. also the processor seems to be on overdrive - any advice?
[16:00] <trelane`> bishops: now use apt-key to confirm they're gone by listing hte keys :)
[16:01] <helo> when i configure my xorg screens with the standard utility, where does it save those settings?
[16:01] <bishops> trelane`: they are not gone because as soon as I sudo apt-get update I get teh same shit gqg error!
[16:01] <EriC^^> helo: /etc/X11/xorg.conf i believe
[16:01] <helo> i'm trying to create a non-desktop machine that runs X using those setting, but don't know where to copy them from
[16:01] <trelane`> bishops: why aren't they gone? :)
[16:02] <cr45h> schov: what's your cpu temp?
[16:02] <helo> EriC^^: nope, xorg.conf doesn't exist :/
[16:02] <bishops> trelane`: because I'm doomed (part of being special)
[16:02] <helo> by "the standard utility", i mean the desktop gui config tool
[16:02] <trelane`> bishops, what happens when you use apt-key to try to remove them?
[16:02] <EriC^^> helo: in ubuntu? settings > display ?
[16:02] <bishops> trelane: it says "OK"
[16:03] <bishops> trelane`: then I run sudo apt-key update, and I get same error
[16:03] <schov> how do i check cr45h ?
[16:03] <trelane`> bishops, then don't do that, look at the apt-key manual, and find out how to manually delete those keys.  Then manually add the ftp key.
[16:03] <bishops> trelane`: because yorba and his associate zedtux are blocking things
[16:03] <trelane`> you'er not doing what I'm telling you to do and then complaining it doesn't work :)
[16:04] <bishops> trelane`: i am! I used apt-key delete etc. what's the difference between this and "manually" removing keys?
[16:05] <schov> cr45h, my fan seems to be constantly on
[16:05] <trelane`> bishops: did you confirm after doing apt-key delete that the keys are deleteD?
[16:05] <bishops> trelane`: as I said it just says "OK" in the terminal
[16:05] <cr45h> schov: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors; sudo sensors-detect; sudo service kmod start; sensors
[16:05] <trelane`> bishops, then if you list the keys are the keys that you tried to delete still there?
[16:06] <bishops> trelane`: yes
[16:06] <bishops> trelane`: listen i know you're telling me not but seriously now it is clear that those blocking everything are yorba-ppa.gpg and zedtux-rhythmbox-folderview.gpg, why can't i just delete them?
[16:07] <trelane`> bishops: go for it, that's safe
[16:07] <bishops> trelane`: but should just delete the actual file as in rm /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/yorba-ppa.gpg ?
[16:08] <trelane`> I'd mv it to foo.bak
[16:08] <BlitzerHound> I need someone to help me with something that I fear is really simple but I can't understand how to do it. I'm new to linux.
[16:08] <trelane`> never delete when you can move
[16:08] <bishops> trelane`: where is foo.bak?
[16:08] <schov> cr45h, ive done what you suggested. temp1 says +72 C
[16:08] <trelane`> foo is variable 1 so foo.bak is /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/yorba-ppa.gpg.bak
[16:08] <schov> I also have ISA adapter temps
[16:09] <schov> cr45h, fan is constantly on
[16:09] <cr45h> hmm, that's not too hot
[16:10] <BlitzerHound> Is there anyone that might be able to help? I just need to install a program.
[16:10] <schov> any guess why ubuntu is reguarly crashing? virus? It's driving my head in?
[16:10] <tgm4883> BlitzerHound: ask your question
[16:10] <tgm4883> BlitzerHound: what program
[16:10] <BlitzerHound> Secondlife
[16:10] <cr45h> it's not a virus
[16:11] <cr45h> schov: does this happen at random? Can you control+alt+f1 to get to a tty when it freezes?
[16:11] <BlitzerHound> I've looked over and over again on how to do it online, but for some reason I can't understand the tutorials or videos. I always get stuck at the directory step. How do I know what to type into terminal to install everything?
[16:11] <bishops> trelane`: it worked!
[16:11] <schov> it appears to happen randomly. I can't control+alt+f1
[16:11] <trelane`> bishops, excellent.
[16:12] <ArtooDetoo> BlitzerHound: what have you already done? what tutorial did you use?
[16:13] <AbbyA> When does 12.04 go out of support?
[16:13] <cr45h> sounds like a hardware issue to me
[16:13] <AbbyA> Gahh
[16:14] <nicomachus> AbbyA: LTS if for 5 years.
[16:14] <nicomachus> is*
[16:14] <BlitzerHound> I was using the first tutorial on youtube, not really sure what it is.  Basically I have extracted the pack to a directory under my home tab called secondlife. I then went to terminal and typed sudo apt-get install lib32z1 and I have no clue at all what that did, but it seemed to do something right.
[16:14] <compdoc> April 2017
[16:14] <AbbyA> nicomachus: Yeah, just Googled it
[16:14] <AbbyA> Anyone familiar with an issue which would cause the +x bit not to be set on packages instaleld from pip?
[16:14] <AbbyA> Only on 12.04, not 14.04.
[16:14] <BlitzerHound> It gave me a bunch of info, then I typed, "sudo ./install.sh" and it asks me to choose a directory
[16:15] <OnkelTem> Hi
[16:15] <BlitzerHound> I don't know what to do at this point.
[16:15] <OnkelTem> How to update bash on ubuntu 14.04?
[16:15] <OnkelTem> Currently it is running 4.3.11 which is buggy
[16:16] <OnkelTem> I want a new version, stable
[16:16] <genii> !precise
[16:17] <ArtooDetoo> BlitzerHound: you can choose a directory, for example /home/username/secondlife, just make sure to insert your user name in the middle
[16:17] <BlitzerHound> So then I've done everything else correctly?
[16:17] <ArtooDetoo> probably
[16:19] <ArtooDetoo> OnkelTem: 'apt-get update && apt-get install bash' should give you the latest version available in your sources ... what bug are you talking about anyway?
[16:19] <BlitzerHound> Okay so I entered the directory as home/adrian/secondlife and I think something went wrong
[16:19] <ArtooDetoo> BlitzerHound: '/home'. not 'home'
[16:19] <OnkelTem> f() { eval "declare -A vars="${1#*=}; declare -p vars; }; declare -A arr=([foo]="bar" [baz]="qux"); f "$(declare -p arr)"
[16:19] <OnkelTem> ArtooDetoo: this shouldn't print error message
[16:20] <OnkelTem> it must output array definition
[16:20] <plytro> this affects your usage of bash?
[16:20] <BlitzerHound> That didn't help. :c
[16:20] <OnkelTem> ArtooDetoo: I have the latest system, updated just today
[16:20] <plytro> every version of bash has at least a bug
[16:20] <BlitzerHound> adrian@FoxBox:~/secondlife$ sudo ./install.sh
[16:20] <BlitzerHound> Enter the desired installation directory [/opt/secondlife-install]: /home/adrian/secondlife
[16:20] <BlitzerHound>  - Backing up previous installation to /home/adrian/secondlife.backup-2015-07-13
[16:20] <BlitzerHound>  - Installing to /home/adrian/secondlife
[16:20] <BlitzerHound> cp: cannot stat ‘/home/adrian/secondlife/*’: No such file or directory
[16:21] <OnkelTem> plytro: severely, my scripts stopped working!
[16:21] <plytro> you could downgrade :)
[16:21] <OnkelTem> plytro: I have to find a way to workaround that or update bash
[16:21] <DiegoLiedo> Is anyone in Denver available for the configuration of 5 raspberries pi ip's addresses and a bash script?
[16:22] <plytro> do "apt-cache policy bash"
[16:22] <plytro> move back to the old version
[16:22] <bekks> DiegoLiedo: Thats not tied to being in Denver :)
[16:22] <ArtooDetoo> BlitzerHound: you can also just press return when it asks for the directory. It will install in the default location /opt/secondlife-install
[16:22] <OnkelTem> presently, I found no workaround. I just don't get why that eval thingy doesn't create the array
[16:22] <BlitzerHound> Oh
[16:22] <OnkelTem> plytro: never did that, let me try
[16:23] <OnkelTem> plytro: ok, there is one more version available. How to select it?
[16:23] <DiegoLiedo> bekks: in this case it is, yesterday the sd cards were stolen, I'm in México and there is no remote access
[16:24] <BlitzerHound> How do I know if it worked?
[16:24] <ArtooDetoo> what did it say?
[16:24] <OnkelTem> Maybe there is a PPA for bash?
[16:25] <BlitzerHound> I don't think it worked. I got an error popup thing.
[16:25] <ArtooDetoo> be a little bit more precise
[16:25] <plytro> OnkelTem: http://blog.andrewbeacock.com/2007/03/how-to-install-specific-version-of.html
[16:26] <BlitzerHound> Trying to, I was reading to see what it said. Just says "Sorry, ubuntu has experienced an internal error"
[16:26] <BlitzerHound> Then gives a bunch of info in a window, details and stuff. I don't know what to pick out of that to tell you though
[16:27] <BlitzerHound> But it said this when I typed that into command prompt
[16:27] <BlitzerHound> adrian@FoxBox:~/secondlife$ sudo ./install.sh
[16:27] <BlitzerHound> Enter the desired installation directory [/opt/secondlife-install]:
[16:27] <BlitzerHound>  - Backing up previous installation to /opt/secondlife-install.backup-2015-07-13
[16:27] <BlitzerHound>  - Installing to /opt/secondlife-install
[16:27] <BlitzerHound>  - Installing menu entries in /usr/local/share/applications
[16:27] <nicomachus> !paste | BlitzerHound
[16:27] <k1mmyyy> can anyone take a quick look at the last couple posts of this thread and tell me if it's a good idea to go forward? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2284662&page=3&p=13320099#post13320099
[16:28] <OnkelTem> plytro: thanks, so easy, just package=version
[16:28] <g105b> Got a little server in my office running ubuntu-server headless and I need to make sure it will get allocated an IP automatically by a DHCP running on a different network ... I think it is set up to have a static IP at the moment (on the device, not on the router), can anyone list where I can look to check this? (I have checked /etc/network/interfaces so far, don't know where else to look).
[16:28] <OnkelTem> plytro: installed, and tried already. Same crap :(
[16:28] <plytro> OnkelTem: did you downgrade?
[16:28] <plytro> or move up a version?
[16:29] <BlitzerHound> http://i.imgur.com/dNi50E6.png
[16:29] <ArtooDetoo> OnkelTem: on bash 4.3-12 i get the output: declare -A vars='([baz]="qux" [foo]="bar" )'
[16:29] <Daekdroom> !saucy
[16:29] <plytro> I get that on 4.3.30 also
[16:29] <bekks> g105b: Did you install a graphical desktop environment?
[16:30] <OnkelTem> ArtooDetoo: that is what should be!
[16:30] <BlitzerHound> So, that's what's going on.
[16:30] <OnkelTem> ArtooDetoo: I guess it is not Ubuntu, huh?
[16:30] <ppf> not specifically ubuntu, but: how can i use an extra mouse button in a vim command mapping?
[16:30] <ArtooDetoo> OnkelTem: no, it's debian stretch
[16:30] <OnkelTem> ArtooDetoo: yep
[16:31] <ArtooDetoo> BlitzerHound: maybe the installation still worked, are there any files in /opt/secondlife-install ?
[16:31] <BlitzerHound> Lemme check
[16:31] <plytro> OnkelTem: and you're getting -bash: declare: vars: not found
[16:31] <plytro> ?
[16:31] <k1mmyyy> hi guys dumb question but can anyone see what im saying or do i have to register?
[16:31] <OnkelTem> plytro: exactly
[16:31] <plytro> did you open a new shell and check the bash version after your install?
[16:32] <Skyrider> anyone alive? :p
[16:32] <plytro> otherwise you're in the same old version
[16:32] <OnkelTem> I've already asked folks on #bash, but the channel seems to be idling right now
[16:32] <OnkelTem> plytro: of course!
[16:32] <k1mmyyy> can anyone take a quick look at the last couple posts of this thread and tell me if it's a good idea to go forward? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2284662&page=3&p=13320099#post13320099
[16:32] <BlitzerHound> So this is the opt folder thing.
[16:32] <BlitzerHound> http://i.imgur.com/dNi50E6.png
[16:32] <plytro> what is your new version after install?
[16:32] <OnkelTem> plytro: 4.3.8
[16:32] <OnkelTem> same effect - vars not defined
[16:33] <ArtooDetoo> BlitzerHound: that's the same link as before
[16:33] <BlitzerHound> Oh woops
[16:33] <BlitzerHound> http://i.imgur.com/ntzadrM.png
[16:34] <Skyrider> If anyone is familiar with raspberry pi 2 ubuntu (Ubuntu MATE) highlight my name, thanks :)
[16:34] <ArtooDetoo> what is the content of the first directory?
[16:36] <g105b> bekks: no it's headless
[16:36] <bekks> g105b: Which doesnt mean there is no desktop environment installed :)
[16:37] <BlitzerHound> If the installation DID work, how would I run it? I don't see any program anywhere.
[16:37] <bekks> BlitzerHound: So where did you look? :)
[16:37] <ArtooDetoo> so the directory is empty? if it did work there should be an excutable file somewhere. maybe the installer also added a link to your menu
[16:38] <BlitzerHound> So then would I go to terminal? I don't see anything in the programs list or anything, but I really am very new to this so maybe I just don't know where to check.
[16:38] <rypervenche> BlitzerHound: It should have created a menu entry. If not, you can run it from the command line from /opt/secondlife-install/secondlife . You should read the README-linux.txt file in /opt/secondlife-install
[16:38] <plytro> OnkelTem: ok
[16:38] <plytro> I have a solution
[16:39] <rypervenche> BlitzerHound: And you probably should have installed this as a user, not to opt. No reason it needs root privileges.
[16:39] <BlitzerHound> I'll do that then. Thanks again for being so patient with me, I know I must seem ridiculous.
[16:39] <plytro> let me just double check
[16:41] <rypervenche> BlitzerHound: So no need for sudo in front of the install.sh script. :)
[16:41] <BlitzerHound> So then should I redo it without doing the sudo thing?
[16:41] <Guest99706> can someone help me please.ive got no sound just static on my speaker's after power outage
[16:41] <BlitzerHound> Also, it seems with every failed attempt it creates these folders that I can't delete. Is that normal?
[16:42] <ArtooDetoo> you can delete them in a terminal by running "sudo rm -R /path/to/directory"
[16:42] <rypervenche> BlitzerHound: You can from the command line. Run "sudo rm -rf /opt/secondlife*" Be very very careful to copy and paste that command as I typed it, without the quotes around it.
[16:43] <not_stark> BlitzerHound, you should be able to use "sudo nautilus" in the terminal to open a file manager window from which you can delete them
[16:43] <genii> not_stark: Please do not recommend using sudo to run graphicall applications
[16:43] <rypervenche> BlitzerHound: I would not recommend running nautilus with root permissions.
[16:43] <Guest99706> can someone help me please.ive got no sound just static on my speaker's after power outage
[16:43] <genii> !gksudo
[16:43] <not_stark> genii, gksudo, then. My bad.
[16:44] <BlitzerHound> Okay so then I typed that thing in, it doesn't look like it did anything.
[16:45] <rypervenche> BlitzerHound: It deleted the installed directories. Now you may run the install.sh script as your user, without sudo in front of it.
[16:45] <SKY_Line_> hey. Do i just put the .iso file in the USB drive and click it , to install the OS ?
[16:45] <bekks> SKY_Line_: No. :)
[16:45] <BlitzerHound> Okay, but I have a few folders I still can't delete from trying it before I was being helped.
[16:45] <bekks> !usb | SKY_Line_
[16:45] <mkk0101> hi
[16:45] <BlitzerHound> they have a little lock and when I try to delete, it says permission denied. How do I get more permission than admin?
[16:45] <genii> BlitzerHound: The default behaviour is to return to a command prompt. If you get some sort of message, the message would be an error of some kind. When commands complete successfully, you don't get a message or such saying "Yes, command completed well", it just goes back to command prompt
[16:46] <BlitzerHound> genii: Oh, okay. This is my first time using the command prompt thing.
[16:46] <SKY_Line_> bekks: i dont want to boot from the USB drive. Just install the OS from it
[16:46] <Guest99706> can someone help me please.ive got no sound just static on my speaker's after power outage
[16:46] <ArtooDetoo> BlitzerHound: as genii said, type "gksudo nautilus" in a terminal and you can delete the directories with that
[16:46] <nicomachus> eek...
[16:46] <rypervenche> BlitzerHound: If you ran the command I gave you, it deleted them already.
[16:46] <BlitzerHound> Okay
[16:46] <mkk0101> can someone help me understand how i install an iwlwifi driver for my lenovo flex 14? I'm on ubuntu 14.04 and i've got an Intel 7260 wireless
[16:47] <bekks> SKY_Line_: And you need to boot the install iso to do so...
[16:47] <bekks> SKY_Line_: So please read the first link given by ubottu.
[16:47] <plytro> for reference mkdir fff && cd fff && wget https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash/4.3-11ubuntu2/+build/6517893/+files/bash-builtins_4.3-11ubuntu2_amd64.deb https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash/4.3-11ubuntu2/+build/6517893/+files/bash-static_4.3-11ubuntu2_amd64.deb https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash/4.3-11ubuntu2/+build/6517893/+files/bash_4.3-11ubuntu2_amd64.deb https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash/4.3-11ubuntu2/+build/
[16:48] <mkk0101> anyone?
[16:48] <SKY_Line_> bekks: ok
[16:48] <nicomachus> mkk0101: sudo apt-get install iwlwifi
[16:48] <SKY_Line_> bekks: will that install the whole OS on the USB drive ?
[16:49] <mkk0101> nicomachus will that do it all? that seems too easy
[16:49] <bekks> SKY_Line_: No. You need to create a bootable USB stick - which can be read when following the link given.
[16:49] <nicomachus> mkk0101: the driver should be pre-installed on the kernel, but if it's not then that will do it.
[16:49] <mkk0101> it says unable to locate package iwlwifi
[16:49] <nicomachus> otherwise try 'sudo ifconfig wlan0 up'
[16:50] <SKY_Line_> bekks: ok, so its just for showing the menu for installing the OS
[16:50] <Guest99706> can someone help me please.ive got no sound just static on my speaker's after power outage
[16:50] <BlitzerHound> brb
[16:51] <mkk0101> just to make sure i'm talking about the right thing, i'm trying to install the iwlwifi driver cuz my wireless currently doesn't support injection or monitor mode
[16:51] <SKY_Line_> bekks: so 1.8GB USB drive is enough then
[16:52] <mkk0101> and ubuntu is unable to locate package iwlwifi
[16:52] <Guest99706> can someone help me please.ive got no sound just static on my speaker's after power outage
[16:52] <Guest99706> ive tried lots of stuff
[16:53] <genii> mkk0101: The iwlwifi driver is part of the linux-image-extra-<kernelversion-here>-generic package
[16:53] <mkk0101> so do i need to add a repo or something?
[16:53] <genii> mkk0101: So the package name depends on the kernel you are running
[16:53] <mkk0101> oh
[16:54] <mkk0101> so what should i type in terminal to get it?
[16:54] <mkk0101> sorry for being a noob
[16:56] <Guest99706> can someone help me please.ive got no sound just static on my speaker's after power outage
[16:56] <nicomachus> !patience | Guest99706
[16:57] <nicomachus> Guest99706: this is likely a hardware problem unrelated to ubuntu.
[16:57] <MatthiasM2> I installed Ubuntu 15.04 again on a btrfs raid1 - and while booting I only get the dark olive ubuntu color and nothing else
[16:57] <mkk0101> genii, nicomachus?
[16:57] <MatthiasM2> the first install with 14.04.02 was booting fine - after an update to 14.10 it didn't boot either, so now I tried to reinstall 15.04
[16:58] <nicomachus> mkk0101: type in 'sudo lshw -class network' and paste the output at paste.ubuntu.com, then link the paste here.
[16:58] <mkk0101> ok hang on
[16:59] <genii> mkk0101: Apologies on lag, work required me. Issuing: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-image-$(uname -r)    ...should install the correct package
[16:59] <genii> mkk0101: ( assuming you have a wired connection there currently)
[16:59] <nicomachus> genii: what are the chances that the driver isn't installed already? it's a standard package.
[17:00] <mkk0101> genii: it's wireless
[17:00] <mkk0101> wlan0
[17:00] <genii> nicomachus: The -extra package is not installed by default
[17:00] <nicomachus> but his wireless card is working already. it has SOME driver.
[17:01] <ioria> ls /lib/firmware
[17:01] <nicomachus> that's why I asked for lshw -c network to see what driver it's using.
[17:01] <genii> nicomachus: Ah, I see now on backscroll.
[17:01] <mkk0101> yep almost got it
[17:01] <blz> Hello, I've ssh-ed into a box and I'd like to run cp and then end my SSH session.  How can I start the cp job such that it continues after I disconnect?
[17:01] <Holzbein> exit
[17:02] <mkk0101> here is the link pastebin.com/xMj6qkYK
[17:02] <plytro> background it
[17:02] <genii> mkk0101: If wlan0 already appears then it must be using some driver as nicomachus indicates. The lshw command they gave should tell in the output which driver it is currently using
[17:02] <plytro> blz: background it with &
[17:02] <rypervenche> blz: Either background it or run it in a tmux session, so you can get back to it afterward.
[17:02]  * plytro types too slow for rypervenche
[17:03] <mkk0101> i dont think im actually on intel 7260
[17:03] <blz> rypervenche, plytro if I background it, is there a way to check if it has completed?
[17:03] <plytro> using tmux/screen yeah
[17:03] <rypervenche> blz: That is why you would use tmux :) Yes, you can.
[17:03] <nicomachus> yep, mkk0101: "driver=iwlwifi"
[17:03] <nicomachus> it's already installed.
[17:03] <blz> rypervenche, tmux it is :)
[17:03] <genii> mkk0101: It indicates Intel 3160, already using the iwlwifi driver
[17:03] <rypervenche> blz: Type "tmux" to start a tmux session. Run your command, then type ctrl+b then d to detach. To get back to the session, type "tmux a" to attach.
[17:03] <mkk0101> i thought that iwlwifi driver has injection support?
[17:04] <blz> rypervenche, thanks, I'll give it a whirl! :)
[17:04] <mkk0101> but when i run sudo aireplay-ng -9 wlan0
[17:04] <mkk0101> it says sysfs injection was not found either
[17:05] <blz> rypervenche, well that was easy... +1 internets to you, my friend!
[17:05] <rypervenche> blz: No problem :) *eats the internets*
[17:05] <blz> rypervenche, noooo!!!! what have you done!!!???
[17:08] <mkk0101> so there's no way to get injection support for my laptop?
[17:08] <nicomachus> mkk0101: some older wireless cards just don't have the support for it, regardless of driver.
[17:09] <mkk0101> :(
[17:09] <nicomachus> you can buy a cheap wi-fi dongle with a chipset that does support it. usually less than $10
[17:09] <mkk0101> so
[17:09] <mkk0101> maybe not the best laptop for a compsci student
[17:09] <mkk0101> or future compsci
[17:09] <mkk0101> ok thanks nicomachus
[17:09] <mkk0101> should've really considered that when i bought it though >.>
[17:10] <nicomachus> hey, usb dongles are cheap. :)
[17:10] <mkk0101> yeh i suppose so
[17:10] <mkk0101> weird how a $10 usb dongle can do it but the internal wireless unit cant
[17:11] <nicomachus> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[17:11] <mkk0101> shame
[17:12] <mkk0101> oh well
[17:12] <mkk0101> lol
[17:12] <nicomachus> mkk0101: this one will do it: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0067NFSE2?ref_=pe_623860_70668690
[17:13] <mkk0101> it would be easier to buy it locally
[17:13] <CatKiller> Hi there! Something silly has happened with apt: https://bpaste.net/show/8e964a77d280
[17:13] <mkk0101> what spec should i look at when buying one?
[17:13] <CatKiller> basically apt tells me that a package is installed
[17:13] <CatKiller> however it doesn't seem to be
[17:14] <CatKiller> I "apt-get remove"d and "apt-get purge"d it and tried to install again but no luck
[17:14] <nicomachus> mkk0101: just make sure the chipset supports what you need. that can be hard to find sometimes. if you have a microcenter nearby, they usually know their stuff.
[17:14] <mkk0101> idk what that is but i'm sure i can get what i need
[17:14] <mkk0101> where i live there's a massive shopping centre which is just a techie's dream
[17:16] <nicomachus> they'll have one, then. if you can find one with 'Ralink RT5370' chipset, it will work. (That's just an example of one chipset I know that works on monitor mode, not sure about injection)
[17:16] <mkk0101> ok thanks
[17:22] <zerotresBR> Ohayoooo
[17:22] <cofo> Which pdf reader are you using similar to Foxit reader or better?
[17:23] <droid909> cofo: foxit is ok
[17:23] <cofo> there is only exe
[17:23] <cofo> i can't run exe on ubuntu
[17:24] <plytro> I can run exe on ubuntu
[17:26] <cofo> nice idc
[17:26] <nicomachus> cofo: you can run an exe through Wine.
[17:29] <cofo> i can;t
[17:29] <cofo> not working
[17:30] <nicomachus> cofo: winehq gave it a platinum rating... https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=31497
[17:30] <nicomachus> you might want to ask the guys at #winehq for some help if you can't the program running under WINE
[17:32] <cofo> how
[17:32] <cofo> nvm
[17:48] <marty> hi
[17:52] <nicomachus> wow, this is the most dead I've ever seen this channel. lol
[17:55] <evga> Hi, trying to load puseaudio's module "module-bluethooth-discover" and it says "not found" but /usr/lib/pulse-6.0/modules/ contains it!!
[17:56] <jhutchins> cofo: xpdf, evince (gnome), kpdf(kde), gv, MuPDF, zathura, qpdfview, chrome, foxit, okular.  Okular is probably the most advanced, but does pull in a lot of KDE.
[17:57] <jhutchins> cofo: That list is by no means complete.
[17:58] <chloe> why can't i join #archlinux?
[17:59] <OerHeks> !register | chloe
[17:59] <OerHeks> some channels need registering
[17:59] <chloe> darn
[17:59] <Guest32033> chloe: intermittent errors in the earth's magnetic field
[18:01] <evga> can I get some help please?
[18:01] <chloe> @Guest32033 but why?
[18:02] <OerHeks> evga just ask, wait and see
[18:02] <evga> I did ask
[18:02] <Dart_Veider> есть кто из россии?
[18:02] <tgm4883> OerHeks: he did, he just needs patience
[18:02] <tgm4883> !patience | evga
[18:04] <evga> Thanks but I've already spent 2 hours searching around, this is why I'm here
[18:05] <OerHeks> evga, i just read this bugreport, does it load with ' pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover  '?? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1274613
[18:06] <evga> Nope, it wont load using the pactl command, it says "shared object not found"
[18:06] <funkt> Hi there has anyone tried chronos on chromebook I cannot seem to get into the terminal and have no network access I have an arm processor
[18:07] <funkt> Does anyone here know if there is a chronos or ubuntu version for an arm processor?
[18:07] <evga> [pulseaudio] ltdl-bind-now.c: Apertura del modulo module-bluethooth-discover.so non riuscita: module-bluethooth-discover.so: impossibile aprire il file oggetto condiviso: File o directory non esistente -- Jul 13 19:56:19 HP pulseaudio[1594]: [pulseaudio] module.c: Failed to open module "module-bluethooth-discover"
[18:08] <evga> sudo apt-get install pulseaudio-module-bluetooth => Already installed
[18:09] <evga> I don't know what to do :\
[18:09] <evga> it seems like dlopen() fails to find the module... but why ?
[18:10] <OerHeks> evga, are you using blueman?
[18:13] <OerHeks> Blueman seems to deliberately unloads module-bluetooth-discover on startup https://github.com/blueman-project/blueman/issues/64
[18:19] <Finetundra> It's possible to install unity after installing kubuntu, yes
[18:19] <Finetundra> ?
[18:20] <SchrodingersScat> !info ubuntu-desktop | Finetundra
[18:21] <Finetundra> very good. Now my question is, is it a bad to have multiple DE's at the same time?
[18:21] <owen1> i am trying to install ubuntu (apt-get install mongodb-server mongodb-server) and get Could not connect to us-west-2.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[18:21] <owen1> any ideas?
[18:21] <owen1> sorry. i am trying to install mongo on ubuntu
[18:23] <SchrodingersScat> Finetundra: wouldn't say bad, there's the space it will take up.
[18:23] <BBLLCC> on xchat, can I ignore an user by typing "user*@*"?
[18:23] <funkt>   Hi there has anyone tried chronos on chromebook I cannot seem to get into the terminal and have no network access I have an arm processor
[18:27] <acr_> tes
[18:28] <funkt> any ideas how i can get into chronos terminal or get a network connection|||||||||
[18:28] <Finetundra> SchrodingersScat: , good point. how big do you estimat e unity to be?
[18:30] <OerHeks> funch,  chronos on chromebook ? ubuntu uses cron
[18:30] <statusfailed> What's the best way to allow non-root/wheel users to install or upgrade software?
[18:30] <statusfailed> is there like an "official" way ?
[18:30] <funkt> cron?
[18:31] <SchrodingersScat> Finetundra: you can try 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' and just don't hit enter/return afterwards, on my machine going from xubuntu -> ubuntu would add: After this operation, 952 MB of additional disk space will be used.
[18:31] <OerHeks> funkt, do you have ubuntu on that chromebook?
[18:32] <funkt> yes i do
[18:32] <funkt> its an arm processor though so i have no network or software availabilty and no terminal
[18:32] <funkt> the version is 12.04
[18:33] <funkt> im just wondering if anyone else here has maanged to get an ubuntu version working
[18:34] <evga> OerHeks, I have 15.04
[18:34] <tonyyarusso> statusfailed: Just set up your sudoers to give access to the particular commands you want?
[18:37] <Finetundra> erm, can someone tell me how to delete a file without moving it to the trash?
[18:37] <not_stark> Finetundra, doesn't Shift-Delete work?
[18:37] <Finetundra> dunno
[18:37] <statusfailed> tonyyarusso: is there any official guidance on whether that is a good idea security-wise?
[18:38] <Finetundra> hey, it worked, thanks not_stark
[18:38] <tonyyarusso> statusfailed: That depends on your environment and users :)  Note that it would also allow them to upgrade and remove software, which could be a problem if any of them are idiots and/or malicious.
[18:39] <statusfailed> tonyyarusso: speaking a user, yes to both :p
[18:41] <not_stark> statusfailed, you could write a program/script to wrap apt-get and set the suid bit on it
[18:42] <BlitzerHound> Is the nautilus thing something I should have by default?
[18:42] <not_stark> but that's not something I'd recommend unless you know what you're doing
[18:42] <BlitzerHound> Nautilus?
[18:43] <BlitzerHound> I need to delete some files but I don't have the authority. :c Can someone help me with doing that?
[18:44] <not_stark> BlitzerHound, are you on Ubuntu or some other variant? Nautilus is the default file manager
[18:45] <BlitzerHound> Ubuntu
[18:45] <sp0on> [B
[18:45] <statusfailed> not_stark: true!
[18:45] <TechMonger2> one of my ubuntu computers is not connecting to the network...
[18:46] <TechMonger2> i can not ping out or ping in
[18:46] <not_stark> BlitzerHound, just hit alt-f2 (I assume that combination still works), run "gksudo nautilus" and delete your files
[18:46] <TechMonger2> if i run a knopix live cd i get network connection
[18:47] <TechMonger2> i dont understand why ubuntu wont connect
[18:48] <BlitzerHound> It says I gksudo is not currently installed
[18:48] <not_stark> BlitzerHound, try with gksu. If that doesn't work, open up Software Center and install gksudo. That should do it.
[18:49] <ioria> !info gksu
[18:49] <genii> ..or gksu
[18:50] <not_stark> BlitzerHound, well, no, install gksu. Apparently gksudo doesn't exist anymore.
[18:50] <BlitzerHound> Now it's saying I am not entering the password correctly... Is it different from my login?
[18:52] <BlitzerHound> Okay I got it.
[18:53] <pbx> is there a way to switch between workspaces numerically?
[18:53] <BlitzerHound> So, if I'm installing secondlife like I was trying to do earlier, I would make a directory for it, then extract the contents of the zip file into the directory right?
[18:53] <pbx> also re workspaces -- super-shift-w shows me all windows across workspaces, but when i click on one in a different workspace it doesn't take me there. wha?
[18:58] <funkt> Hi there has anyone installed ubuntu on chromebook with an arm processor?
[18:59] <funkt> I seem to have installed unity but it has no terminal or network
[18:59] <rcd> Hello tout le monde, j'apprends à utilisez emacs et je voudrais particulièrement paramétrer des options définitivement, des idées ?
[18:59] <ikonia> funkt: how did you install ubunu ?
[18:59] <ikonia> ubuntu
[18:59] <BlitzerHound> So I ran the installation but I don't see anything happening. Can someone help me please?
[18:59] <funkt> ikonia I have installed chronos unity
[19:00] <ikonia> that's not ubuntu
[19:00] <funkt> well i can see unity 12.04 ikonia
[19:00] <ikonia> well, it's not ubuntu
[19:01] <funkt> Ok sure its not ubuntu any ideas how i can get a network connection? in chronos
[19:01] <funkt> ikonia
[19:01] <ikonia> talk to the people who support/maintain it
[19:01] <ikonia> it's nothing to do with this channels support
[19:01] <ikonia> they can tell you the problem
[19:01] <funkt> of course not
[19:02] <funkt> i dont expect it to be either i just need some help
[19:02] <BlitzerHound> It says unable to lock the administrative directory, what does that mean? :c
[19:03] <funkt> ikonia have you had any experience of network probs with chronos?
[19:03] <liceoprova> ciao
[19:03] <ikonia> funkt: not with chronos - and it's not for this channel
[19:03] <liceoprova> !list
[19:04] <funkt> ok but might be somone here who can help me the information is pretty much zero on the net
[19:04] <ghoti> I need to add a NIC to a router.  Should I prefer 82580 (igb) over 82571 (e1000)?  I don't know how to read/compare Intel chipset numbers.  Where can I grow my knowledge about these?
[19:04] <ikonia> funkt: no, sorry
[19:04] <BlitzerHound> Anyone? :c
[19:04] <ikonia> ghoti: a router ? what do you mean ?
[19:04] <DJones> -*+
[19:06] <ghoti> ikonia: linux box running quagga, handling bgp with multiple peers.  Some connections are gige, some are faste.
[19:06] <BlitzerHound> Really need help if anyone is available.
[19:06] <ikonia> ghoti: how are you having faster than gig ethernet on ubuntu ?
[19:06] <ghoti> ikonia: I'm not.  Where did you get that idea?
[19:07] <ikonia>  Some connections are gige, some are faste. ahh "fast e" as in fast ethernet, sorry
[19:07] <ikonia> I thought you meant some are a gig, some are faster
[19:07] <ghoti> ah. :)
[19:07] <ghoti> GigE vs FastE.
[19:08] <ghoti> ciscospeak
[19:08] <ikonia> ghoti: what's the actual question, not quite sure I got it all
[19:09] <ghoti> ikonia: the question was ... how can I determine what the best hardware is for a NIC for a router?  Or, short version, should I prefer an Intel 82580-based NIC over an 82571-based one?
[19:09] <ikonia> so you need to research the differences in the card, and compare that against the support within the ubuntu kernel you're running
[19:09] <BlitzerHound> If I need to wait can someone just acknowledge me? :\
[19:09] <ikonia> also look at what modes/features the cards support in linux - as you may need some of these functions for router use
[19:09] <ghoti> ikonia: exactly.  Asking knowledgeable people in IRC is part of that research. :)
[19:10] <ikonia> ghoti: but you're not really asking something I can see ?
[19:10] <ikonia> you're asking how do you know whats better - you research which is best for your needs and support
[19:10] <genii> ghoti: I would prefer the 82571 which uses the established and well understood e1000 driver
[19:11] <BlitzerHound> Can anyone actually read my text? I've been asking for help for quite a while now.
[19:11] <plytro> BlitzerHound: I acknowledge you
[19:11] <ghoti> genii: thanks, that's exactly the kind of advice I was looking for.
[19:11] <BlitzerHound> Oh okay
[19:11] <ghoti> BlitzerHound: pong
[19:11] <plytro> BlitzerHound: I validate your existance as a human
[19:11] <ghoti> plytro: he might be a bot...
[19:11] <BlitzerHound> plytro: I appreciate that. :3
[19:11] <plytro> BlitzerHound: I validate your existance as a member of this channel
[19:12] <ghoti> much better. ;-)
[19:12] <BlitzerHound> I just need help with something small I think. :c I am very very new to linux (Like a few hours experience)
[19:12] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | BlitzerHound I see it may be secondlife involved, which means it may not necessarily be a ubuntu question, but go ahead and ask your question :)
[19:13] <plytro> wget https://d378iqxsyg0s3u.cloudfront.net/Viewer_3/Second_Life_3_8_0_302622_i686.tar.bz2
[19:13] <plytro> mkdir sl
[19:13] <plytro> cd sl
[19:14] <plytro> tar jxfv ../Second_Life_3_8_0_302622_i686.tar.bz2
[19:14] <ghoti> ikonia: that said, to answer your initial question, I gather ubuntu's `ifenslave` would be the starting point for setting up 802.3ad.
[19:14] <ikonia> plytro: stop please
[19:14] <ghoti> Second Life still exists?
[19:14] <ikonia> ghoti: thats one way of doing it, you do'nt have to use it
[19:15] <jany> hello?
[19:15] <hotGuest> hi
[19:15] <BRUNO_55> hi
[19:15] <Guest3657> hi
[19:15] <Greeneye> hi
[19:15] <jany> anyone here?
[19:15] <jany> Im new Ubuntu Studio user :)
[19:15] <hotGuest> nice
[19:15] <BRUNO_55> nice
[19:15] <Greeneye> nice
[19:15] <Guest3657> nice
[19:15] <ranalama> nice
[19:15] <SchrodingersScat> !bots
[19:16] <BlitzerHound> So I'm installing secondlife, and it when I run the secondlife file, it says "Bad Shutdown Error" and I think it has to do with not having 32 bit compatibility packs (whatever those are). I tried to do "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs" and it tells me "Unable to lock the administration directory" and that something else may be using it, which I assume is the nautilus that I have running on gksu which I'm not sure how to fix.
[19:17] <not_stark> BlitzerHound: nautilus wouldn’t interfere with that
[19:17] <SchrodingersScat> BlitzerHound: if you have anything else that accesses the packages open, then that could be it?  Like if you have a running apt-get command, synaptic or software center open, etc.
[19:17] <BlitzerHound> Oh wait, I'm updating, could that be it? Just realized I need to reboot
[19:18] <SchrodingersScat> BlitzerHound: yep, that would likely be one reason.  Go ahead and let that finish, then you can re-attempt what you were doing.
[19:18] <BlitzerHound> Okay! Thanks.
[19:18] <ioria> !info ia32-libs
[19:19] <treeprogram> Hi, when I follow these instructions: http://askubuntu.com/questions/544646/how-to-install-google-drive-on-ubuntu-14-04 I get this error: E: Unable to locate package grive-tools .. Any suggestions?
[19:19] <SchrodingersScat> I forget what the alternative for that is...
[19:19] <ioria> multiarch
[19:20] <Kali_Yuga> I am looking for a tool where I can record Videos with from webcam using ubuntu
[19:20] <SchrodingersScat> !info grive | treeprogram, what version are you in? I think grive has been included recently, although I also heard something about it not working anymore,
[19:21] <ikonia> muted the channel for a few moments
[19:21] <ikonia> please be pateient for a few minutes
[19:21] <ikonia> sorry about that, back to normal now,
[19:22] <treeprogram> SchrodingersScat: I also tried grive, but it didn't work (it installed, but couldn't backup the file to a gmail drive). By version, do you mean the Ubuntu version?
[19:22] <Kali_Yuga> I need a program to record Videos from webcam any suggestions using (kubuntu)
[19:23] <Ionic> ikonia: kids playing again?
[19:24] <Kali_Yuga> I ask in offtopic
[19:24] <ikonia> sorry about the noises all
[19:24] <pbx> how do i use the super-shift-W command to switch to a window outside my current workspace?
[19:25] <SchrodingersScat> treeprogram: right, I meant ubuntu version, older LTS versions /may/ not have it in repos.  what do you mean couldn't backup the file?
[19:25] <treeprogram> SchrodingersScat: I got a 404 error from Google
[19:25] <SchrodingersScat> treeprogram: during which stage?
[19:26] <SchrodingersScat> treeprogram: ie, have you already authenticated with the google?
[19:26] <treeprogram> SchrodingersScat: I'm running 12.04
[19:27] <in_deep_thought> trying to re-install ubuntu 12.04 on my machine. i have a usb stick, used sudo dd if=/path/to.iso of=/destination, which worked. Now I have it plugged into my comptuer and pressed F12 on startup to get the boot loader menu
[19:27] <in_deep_thought> I want to boot to usb
[19:27] <in_deep_thought> what sounds right? Lecacy boot, UEFI boot, or other options
[19:27] <in_deep_thought> bios setup
[19:27] <Ben64> in_deep_thought: legacy probably, but why not install 14.04
[19:27] <Bashing-om> treeprogram: SchrodingersScat :: sysop@1404mini:~$ apt-cache show grive >> Filename: pool/universe/g/grive/grive_0.2.0-1.1_amd64.deb . Is available in 14.04 repo .
[19:28] <in_deep_thought> Ben64: trying to test software that runs on 12.04
[19:28] <in_deep_thought> yeah I wish
[19:28] <treeprogram> SchrodingersScat: how does one authenticate with Google?
[19:28] <in_deep_thought> so under lecacy, would it be cd/dvd/cd-rw drive? onboard nic or bus04 dev 00 pci raid adapter
[19:28] <in_deep_thought> none of them sound like the usb drive tbh
[19:29] <Ben64> depends on your computer, you might need to look harder in the bios
[19:29] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: "CD/DVD .." - in other words, optical device which will boot with ISO9660/El Torito protocol
[19:30] <in_deep_thought> selected boot device failed. press any key to reboot the system
[19:30] <in_deep_thought> does that mean perhaps the iso is corrupt?
[19:30] <treeprogram> Actually, I want to install this: https://github.com/odeke-em/drive
[19:30] <Ben64> more likely you just tried to boot a non existent cd
[19:30] <treeprogram> but there doesn't appear to be any easy way to install it
[19:30] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: That may mean the BIOS boot-manager only tries to boot from optical devices, not the USB.
[19:30] <treeprogram> https://github.com/odeke-em/drive#installation
[19:31] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: Maybe the BIOS setup has a separate option to enable USB boot devices?
[19:31] <cofo> i install xfce in ubuntu but nothing changed, why?
[19:31] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: hang on - early you listed "bus04" - could that possible have been "usb04" ?
[19:32] <ioria> cofo did you select the sesson at logn ?
[19:32] <SchrodingersScat> treeprogram: the manual for grive says you run grive -a first, which gives you a google oauth2 link to confirm with google.  Not sure with that other program.
[19:32] <in_deep_thought> it says (Bus 04 Dev 00) PCI RAID Adapter
[19:32] <ioria> *login
[19:32] <cofo> im on live test ioria
[19:32] <Kali_Yuga> I need a program to record Videos from webcam any suggestions using (kubuntu)
[19:32] <cofo> Kali_Yuga: join #kubuntu
[19:33] <Kali_Yuga> oh there is actually a kubuntu channel
[19:33] <cofo> =D
[19:33] <Kali_Yuga> lol ok thx
[19:33] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: Ahhh OK, then it isn't the USB. I'd expect if the boot-manager is that specific to see it mention "USB" - check if the BIOS Setup has a separate option to enable USB devices on the boot meny
[19:33] <cofo> but its not allow to cross platform question
[19:33] <in_deep_thought> the bios looks weird to me. its a GUI where I can click on stuff
[19:33] <in_deep_thought> i thought it was supposed to be a blue/black screen with white text
[19:33] <in_deep_thought> does that mean its not the bios?
[19:34] <Ben64> in_deep_thought: its efi
[19:35] <ioria> cofo i don't know if you can do that on live.... never tried... because you have to logout and login
[19:35] <in_deep_thought> ok cool. where might the option to enable usb devices on the boot menu be?
[19:36] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: Some BIOS/UEFI setups are mouse-driven; it depends on the motherboard manufacturer
[19:36] <in_deep_thought> general, system confic, video, security, performance, post behavior, virtualization support, maintenance, system logs
[19:36] <in_deep_thought> none sound like usb boot config
[19:36] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: Look around for anything mentioning "boot' to begin with
[19:36] <in_deep_thought> boot sequence, where I can choose between lecacy and uefi
[19:37] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: Often there is an option to set the order of boot devices and within that you can select/deselect booting from various devices
[19:37] <in_deep_thought> or add boot option
[19:37] <genii> mn3monic: There you go
[19:37] <Ben64> in_deep_thought: it shouldn't be too hard to figure out, we can't see whats going on, you have the advantage here
[19:37] <ioria> in_deep_thought   mind that could be an icon
[19:37] <compdoc> I always set the bios options to legacy. I havent found an advantage to using uefi
[19:37] <in_deep_thought> wanna hop on a screenshare
[19:37] <in_deep_thought> lol jk jk
[19:38] <in_deep_thought> ohh
[19:38] <in_deep_thought> it was in legacy
[19:39] <mn3monic> Hi, I'm in troubles and I need help, wasted an hour figuring out what's happening, unsuccessful. After my previous normal shutdown, xfce refused to start, showing a system error. The only WM I was able to run is Fluxbox. Neither Gnome works. This is my log: http://pastebin.com/eTgkLJMw . Any help is very appreciated.
[19:39] <mn3monic> Thank you.
[19:39] <compdoc> if your pc doesnt see the usb stick, its possible its not bootable. there are many ways to create a bootable usb stick, but only a couple that actually work
[19:41] <in_deep_thought> hmm now when I put the usb stick on the top of the boot order, it just boots to a flashing _
[19:41] <bubbasaures> mn3monic, These things generally don't just happen, tell the channel the leading up to info that is pertinent.
[19:41] <in_deep_thought> that stays there ......
[19:42] <in_deep_thought> maybe it was a corrupt iso?
[19:42] <mn3monic> no, they system worked for more than a month
[19:42] <mn3monic> the*
[19:42] <bubbasaures> in_deep_thought, Check the sum don't just comment here please, and lay off the enter.
[19:43] <mn3monic> bubbasaures, this is the list of packages I have installed today, unrelated to X, afaik: couchdb, couchapp,  libicu-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev libtool erlang-dev erlang, erlang-dev erlang-manpages erlang-base-hipe erlang-eunit erlang-nox erlang-xmerl erlang-inets, memcached
[19:43] <bubbasaures> mn3monic, So what your saying is you don't have a cause for these effects?
[19:43] <in_deep_thought> idk what check the sum means? am I talking too much?
[19:44] <bubbasaures> !sum | in_deep_thought
[19:44] <lessbius> How can I grep for the Location header in the response output by curl? I'm trying this without any luck: curl -vs google.com 2>&1 | grep -Poe "Location.*"
[19:44] <bubbasaures> !sum
[19:44] <Ben64> !checksum | bubbasaures & in_deep_thought
[19:44] <bubbasaures> thanks Ben42
[19:44] <bubbasaures> er 64*
[19:44] <Ben64> same guy, no problem :)
[19:45] <bubbasaures> ;)
[19:46] <bubbasaures> in_deep_thought, If you just comment and comment, all that info is hard to follow after awhile is all, concise and in whole posts will server you best here is all. ;)
[19:47] <bubbasaures> serve*
[19:52] <treeprogram> SchrodingersScat: I think I installed the old version of grive before, and that's why it didn't work. I just installed grive2 (the actively maintained version), and it successfully synced with my Gdrive
[19:55] <SchrodingersScat> treeprogram: neat
[19:59] <treeprogram> SchrodingersScat: would you like $2 in BTC for your troubles?
[19:59] <treeprogram> You can buy a coffee with it using the Starbucks Fold App
[20:00] <SchrodingersScat> treeprogram: I probably shouldn't :P enjoy
[20:02] <treeprogram> ok, adios!
[20:06] <in_deep_thought> hmm the checksum is fine. so that means that my iso is non-corrupt. what does an indefintely flashing _ mean usually on ubuntu/linux?
[20:07] <in_deep_thought> is it like a loading thing, or an error message?
[20:15] <nicomachus> that... was a lot of nick changes.
[20:16] <nicomachus> in_deep_thought: after selecting the OS from grub?
[20:16] <nicomachus> that usually means it's not finding a bootable OS/kernel
[20:16] <in_deep_thought> nicomachus: I changed the boot order to lecacy and I told it to select the USB device first
[20:16] <in_deep_thought> so maybe the USB isn’t bootable
[20:16] <in_deep_thought> though I ran checksum on the iso file and its a valid one
[20:18] <funch> will it matter anyhow.. if i dd image with one blocksize and dd it back with another blocksize?
[20:19] <ShalokShalom> hi there, use the current implementation of gfx boot in live mode still automatical popup of the language (F2) menu ?
[20:20] <squinty> in_deep_thought,   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting    item 7.   maybe try adding "nomodeset" to the kernel entry line
[20:30] <mladoux> eesh
[20:35] <Bashing-om> in_deep_thought: +1 to nomodeset, there is also "check disk for defects" option in the boot options menu of the liveUSB .
[20:52] <shahar23> hej
[20:55] <shahar23> czesc
[20:56] <bubbasaures> shahar23, czech?
[20:57] <shahar23> no
[20:57] <shahar23> not at all, y?
[20:58] <bubbasaures> shahar23, If you need help let us know.
[21:11] <TheCerberus> I am having trouble doing an update the error I am receiving is "w:mdadm: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf defines no arrays"  I have tried googleing this and found that I have no configuration for my RAID, however I am still able to access files on my array and do not want to loose them by doing something wrong.  Can anyone help?
[21:15] <adrian_1908> clear
[21:16] <OerHeks> TheCerberus, can you post the full update & error in paste.ubuntu.com please?
[21:17] <jon30> hey guys, I have Ubuntu Desktop Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Release: 14.04 Codename: trusty. For some reason I can't access the apache server. I know apache is running and listening on port 80 but it's not accessible for some reason. $service apache2 status gives me: * apache2 is running and $netstat -l | grep http gives me: tcp        0      0 server.internal.pi:http *:*                     LISTEN
[21:18] <bekks> jon30: Whats the output of "grep server.internal.pi /etc/hosts"?
[21:18] <jhutchins> jon30: How are you trying to "access" it?
[21:19] <MACscr> Why would i be getting "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: warning: disk does not exist, so falling back to partition device /dev/xvda1." when i run update-grub? the uuid is definitely right
[21:19] <TheCerberus> OerHeks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11874472/
[21:19] <OerHeks> utopic support ends this month, btw
[21:20] <jon30> jhutchins, you're right, it's bound to this weird hostname... anyway, i added "<IP_ADDRESS>	server.internal.pi" into hosts file, now that i try to access server.internal.pi it just "loading" forever...
[21:20] <bekks> jon30: Why did you do that? :)
[21:20] <jhutchins> jon30: How are you trying to "access" it?
[21:20] <OerHeks> TheCerberus, i don't see the error you got
[21:20] <jon30> bekks, jhutchins : chrome browser and curl -I
[21:21] <jon30> it's just "Waiting..."
[21:21] <jhutchins> jon30: From the same system?
[21:21] <jon30> yes
[21:21] <jon30> I am trying to make it work locally. Don't care about external connections
[21:21] <jhutchins> jon30: What if you try http://<IP_ADDRESS>?
[21:21] <jon30> jhutchins, same result
[21:21] <TheCerberus> OerHeks, the error at the bottom asks me to run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and that is where the mdadm error comes.  I have pastebin the results here http://paste.ubuntu.com/11874484/
[21:21] <jon30> "Waiting for <IP_ADDRESS>.."
[21:21] <jhutchins> jon30: /var/log/apache/error_log /var/log/apache/accesslog
[21:22] <jhutchins> telnet localhost 80
[21:22] <jhutchins> get
[21:22] <jon30> Trying <IP_ADDRESS>... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'.
[21:23] <OerHeks> TheCerberus, oke, is /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf empty? or does it look the same as /usr/share/mdadm/mkconf ??
[21:23] <jon30> jhutchins, tail -n100 /var/log/apache2/error.log
[21:23] <jon30> [Sun Jul 12 07:49:33.102093 2015] [mpm_prefork:notice] [pid 1485] AH00163: Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.5.9-1ubuntu4.11 configured -- resuming normal operations
[21:23] <jon30> [Sun Jul 12 07:49:33.102117 2015] [core:notice] [pid 1485] AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2'
[21:23] <jon30> sorry for spam.
[21:23] <jhutchins> !paste
[21:24] <jon30> jhutchins, and access.log is empty
[21:24] <jhutchins> jon30: after the telnet, send get.
[21:24] <funch> hi, will it matter anyhow.. if i dd image with one blocksize and dd it back with another blocksize?
[21:25] <jhutchins> funch: Performance might be different.  It writes the same data.
[21:25] <TheCerberus> OerHeks, mdadm.conf is empty other than autogenerated comments
[21:25] <jhutchins> funch: Final block size should be the same as the original device.
[21:26] <OerHeks> TheCerberus, oke, known issue: backup /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf to /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf.old and copy /usr/share/mdadm/mkconf to /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf and update the INITRAMFS >> update-initramfs -u  and reboot   ( found @ http://serverfault.com/questions/363543/apt-get-update-mdadm-scary-warnings last post )
[21:27] <jhutchins> funch: The blocksize you specify to dd is how big a chunk it sends at a time.
[21:27] <jon30> jhutchins, is something wrong with the config? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11874526/
[21:27] <jon30> jhutchins, the path does exist and it has index.html in it
[21:28] <jhutchins> jon30: Can user www-data access it?
[21:28] <jhutchins> jon30: Remember they need execute permissions on the folder.
[21:28] <jhutchins> jon30: (That should show up in the error log though.)
[21:29] <jhutchins> jon30: I'd revert to the original configuration that points to /var/www/html and see if it works.
[21:29] <jhutchins> I'm headed out for now, I might be on later.
[21:30] <jon30> jhutchins, i gave ownership of public_html to www-data and then added my user to www-data group
[21:30] <jon30> still nothing
[21:31] <TheCerberus> OerHeks, I renamed, copied and tried to update initramfs but received same error "W: mdadm: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf defines no arrays
[21:32] <ManicPanic> What is the recommended partition format for making a USB bootable drive? FAT16, FAT32 or exFAT?
[21:32] <OerHeks> ManicPanic, fat32
[21:33] <ManicPanic> OerHeks: nice thanks
[21:36] <OerHeks> TheCerberus, strange, can you post both, the conf.old and /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf ?
[21:37] <Chaos_Zero> So I had replaced the icon files for google chrome launcher not all that long ago and then when it updated the icon was lost. Is there somewhere I can put icons that will stick through updates?
[21:38] <TheCerberus> OerHeks, mdadm.conf.old is posted here http://paste.ubuntu.com/11874583/ and mdadm.conf is pasted here http://paste.ubuntu.com/11874588/
[21:41] <Reeper> hi guys
[21:41] <Reeper> im totaly new in xchat...some useful tips?
[21:42] <k1l> dont use xchat-gnome but the real xchat. or use the fork hexchat.
[21:42] <Reeper> no ive installed the real one in terminal ;)
[21:43] <Reeper> but thanks
[21:43] <ardian__> salut
[21:44] <k1l> Reeper: then adjust the settings to your needs :)
[21:44] <ardian__> qqlin parle fr
[21:44] <k1l> !fr | ardian__
[21:45] <OerHeks> TheCerberus, do you use grub or lilo boot?
[21:45] <OerHeks> i cannot find something usefull to solve this
[21:45] <TheCerberus> OerHeks, i use grub
[21:50] <in_deep_thought> sorry if this is a dumb question, but for nomodeset, do I need to create the usb using startupdiskcreator? It seems that I set nomodeset on liveUSB, and for that, I need to use ubuntu’s startupdiskcreator
[21:50] <bekks> in_deep_thought: No, you just boot your existing installation with the nomodeset parameter.
[21:50] <bekks> !nomodeset | in_deep_thought
[21:51] <in_deep_thought> my existing installation works fine. its the one of the usb device thats having trouble
[21:51] <bekks> in_deep_thought: So just boot it with the nomodeset parameter.
[21:52] <Gerowen> If I wanted to slap together a quick application that would just embed a website in a window with no web controls, what would be the easiest way for me to do that?  Kind of like the little shortcuts to Facebook that Firefox makes.
[21:52] <Bashing-om> in_deep_thought: No, boot the liveUSB, as soon as you see ubuntu's splaash image, depress any key -> language screen. escape key to accept the default, -> boot options screen -> F6 key to select additional boot parameters.
[21:52] <k1l> in_deep_thought: iirc unetbootin changes the grub or other bootloader settings so its better to use the ubuntu standard for the live system to be bale to change to nomodeset on that live system
[21:53] <in_deep_thought> what? too many peiece of advice. ok so boot the ubuntu already on my machine or the usb stick I just made?
[21:54] <poseidon> I'm in 15.04 server edition.  What's the best way to change the nameservers my server uses to resolve dns?
[21:54] <OerHeks> TheCerberus,i hope this works:  scan the array:  sudo mdadm --detail --scan  # and put the output in mdadm.conf like this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1846484&p=11265279#post11265279
[21:54] <Newyorkadam> Hi, I have a question about Upstart
[21:55] <Newyorkadam> for some reason, my script won’t start: http://i.imgur.com/s6mDtH3.png
[21:55] <in_deep_thought> also, the E to edit, does not seem to work from the boot loader. This is the screen from which I pick the desired boot device
[21:55] <in_deep_thought> i really feel like I am in the grub menu when doing this, but perhaps not? it doesn’t say “GRUB menu” but it has all of the boot options
[21:56] <k1l> in_deep_thought: what do you want to use with nomodeset? if its about the usb live system, then you need to boot the usb and get into the grub/bootloader of that system
[21:56] <TheCerberus> OerHeks, I got a weird output with sudo mdadm --detail --scan i posted http://paste.ubuntu.com/11874650/
[21:56] <in_deep_thought> k1l: ok well yeah the usb is the one having trouble (flashing _) so I think thats the one I should boot with nomodeset
[21:57] <k1l> in_deep_thought: see the answer here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/135515/set-nomodeset-in-usb-installation-efi-loader-with-iso
[21:57] <in_deep_thought> im trying to figure out how to boot that with nomodeset
[21:58] <OerHeks> TheCerberus, ouch, now we both need help :-( glad i told you to backup the conf
[21:58] <in_deep_thought> but that screen never shows up. the one with the logo on it. It really is just a blank black screen with a flashing _ at the top
[21:58] <tnViking> Hey,	I get this error when I do apt-get update, http://pastebin.com/LVmRQDff , and this is my sources.list http://pastebin.com/injq8W5a
[21:59] <silva> hi, i've got a really old pc that i wanted to use as a server; I reformatted the disk and installed ubuntu 15.04 on it successfully, but it freezes into a black screen every time i try to boot it up. any ideas?
[21:59] <ManicPanic> OerHeks: So its safe to format a FAT16 USB drive to FAT32 then?
[21:59] <k1l> tnViking: "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/" gives what?
[21:59] <OerHeks> ManicPanic, sure, no problem
[22:00] <tnViking> k1l:: http://pastebin.com/6datVwtD
[22:00] <nathesh> How do you create 10 folders named 1-10?
[22:00] <nathesh> in the terminal?
[22:00] <ManicPanic> OerHeks: the USB drive is 1.8GB
[22:00] <nathesh> or rather using the terminal*
[22:01] <TheCerberus> OerHeks, yea... it is strange though because it does not seem like my system even uses mdadm when I run sudo fdisk -l it lists my raid 5 as one disk.  My raid is actually setup in its own bios prior to grub or ubuntu booting.  All I remember doing during first installation was downloading and configuring the driver
[22:01] <in_deep_thought> mkdir 1 && mkdir2 && mkdir 3 .. ( and so on)
[22:01] <k1l> tnViking: now lets see what is inside the PPA entries: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/deb-multimedia.list"
[22:01] <nathesh> in_deep_thought: that is hardd
[22:02] <nathesh> like I mean is a there a simple way use a for loop?
[22:02] <tnViking> k1l:: http://pastebin.com/KKN0xEcN
[22:02] <ManicPanic> OerHeks: ok thanks
[22:02] <silva> natesh: you could make a shell script
[22:02] <in_deep_thought> for i in range(10): mkdir i
[22:02] <nathesh> I guess I can bash it
[22:02] <in_deep_thought> jk if only it was that easy
[22:03] <k1l> tnViking: ok, remove the one line from that file.
[22:04] <nathesh> haha I wish it was python :P
[22:04] <nathesh> that would so simple yeah I will bash script it
[22:04] <OerHeks> TheCerberus, didn't notice you have HW raid.
[22:04] <nathesh> thanks though
[22:07] <TheCerberus> OerHeks, yea RocketRaid 2300
[22:07] <noobsie> What is the recommended way to have environment variables set at startup for a webserver (Python/Django project)?
[22:07] <TheCerberus> OerHeks, so can I remove mdadm or at least disable it so the update bipasses it?
[22:08] <tnViking> k1l:: Now I've only got this http://pastebin.com/gCeV5srQ
[22:08] <tnViking> when I run apt-get update
[22:09] <designbybeck_> iTunes in Ubuntu??
[22:09] <Paterux> EriC^^: hi are you here
[22:09] <xangua> designbybeck_: no
[22:09] <noobsie> Would it be a good idea to store username/password to database and salt values (for password hashing) in /etc/environment?
[22:09] <Paterux> EriC^^: it loaded further into ubuntu but the initrmsf prompt still showed up at the end
[22:09] <designbybeck_> i'll take that answer xangua ;) I had a friend asking about linux but they have an iphone and use itunes for their music and work
[22:10] <microhaxo> I am having trouble mounting 1 particular windows shared folder. All the others i can access but this one is an external HDD and every time ti try to access it, i get "Failed to mount Windows share: invalid argument"  I do this from the Network folder
[22:10] <microhaxo> Anyone have any ideas on how to get past this?
[22:12] <in_deep_thought> is there a way to re-pave my entire installation and start again from scratch via the command line? I can see things like putting the new install on a separate partition, but im wondering if there is an easier way. like on os x you can just press command + shift+ R and it lets you re-pave your system
[22:12] <in_deep_thought> anything like that for ubuntu?
[22:12] <bekks> in_deep_thought: No, there isnt.
[22:13] <tnViking> k1l:: I've fixed it now, thanks for the help
[22:14] <in_deep_thought> hmm. ok. should the process of installing from live USB vary from computer to computer. A lot of the advice Im finding doesn’t work for me, and I wonder if its because of the model of computer I am trying to do this on
[22:14] <rev_> quit
[22:14] <bekks> in_deep_thought: The process is the same, basically.
[22:14] <in_deep_thought> so why doesn’t E or e or tab work on my grub menu for instance?
[22:15] <nathesh> in_deep_thought: you can do for i in {1..10}; do mkdir $i; done
[22:15] <bekks> in_deep_thought: Why should it?
[22:15] <bekks> in_deep_thought: Did it ever work? Did you change something on grub?
[22:16] <in_deep_thought> no im reading that link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 how to temporarily set kernel boot options on an installed OS
[22:16] <in_deep_thought> select the default ubuntu kernel (usually the top one) and rather than pressing enter, press E to edit
[22:16] <bekks> in_deep_thought: Do you press e or E? :)
[22:17] <in_deep_thought> tried both
[22:17] <bekks> in_deep_thought: and what exactly happens then? do other keys work fine?
[22:18] <glew_> hey, so I'm trying to install ubuntu on a macbook pro, and I sort of messed up by trying to install modified drivers to try and get the keyboard/trackpad to work correctly. Is there a way to reinstall the default drivers?
[22:18] <glew_> I installed these two things: https://github.com/SicVolo/hid-apple-3.19  https://github.com/SicVolo/bcm5974-3.19
[22:19] <in_deep_thought> bekks: yeah the other keys work (up + down). trying to get  a screen shot to show so that I can make sure im in the right place
[22:19] <glew_> it looks like in the makefile, they use the "install" command with the --backup flag which I think saved the originals, but I'm not sure where the backups would go
[22:21] <in_deep_thought> this is the right grub menu screen right? http://imgur.com/0gI08PG
[22:22] <in_deep_thought> bekks:
[22:22] <bekks> in_deep_thought: No. thats not a grub menu at all :)
[22:22] <bekks> in_deep_thought: thats your UEFI menu.
[22:22] <EriC^^> Paterux: what was the error?
[22:22] <in_deep_thought> ok well thats step 1 i guess
[22:23] <in_deep_thought> how can I get to my grub menu?
[22:23] <TheCerberus> OerHeks, so can I remove mdadm or at least disable it so the update bipasses it?
[22:24] <bekks> in_deep_thought: As the article describes. Press esc or shift when your computer passed the BIOS/UEFI boot stuff.
[22:24] <kxy2000> m
[22:25] <david_> hey
[22:25] <TJ-> bekks: I don't think in_deep_thought is getting to GRUB; earlier the problem was that the boot-manager wasn't listing the USB device as a boot option, and that photo seems to show that is still the case
[22:25] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: what make/model is the PC/motherboard?
[22:25] <bekks> TJ-: Ah ok.
[22:25] <in_deep_thought> yeah it says if you boot ubuntu from a livecd (or USB stick), right after the bios splash screen you will get a purple screen with a keyboard logo at the bottom:
[22:25] <david_> Hello, whats happening?
[22:25] <in_deep_thought> im not getting to the purple screen with the keyboard logo at the bottom
[22:26] <in_deep_thought> TJ-: its a dell precision t5600
[22:26] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: Let me try to find the manual
[22:27] <david_> What is the point of this channel?
[22:27] <in_deep_thought> model D01T, type D01T001
[22:28] <genii> david_: Please read the channel topic to be enlightened
[22:29] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: see pages 40-41 and tell me if they match what you see: http://downloads.dell.com/Manuals/all-products/esuprt_desktop/esuprt_dell_precision_workstation/precision-t5600_Owner%27s%20Manual_en-us.pdf
[22:29] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: In particular, the "USB Controller" => Enable USB Controller
[22:30] <glew_> so does anyone know if there is there a way to revert all drivers to their default state?
[22:30] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: and in addition (end of page 41) the "USB Configuration" => "Enable Boot Support/Front USB Ports/Rear USB Ports/USB3 Ports"
[22:30] <glew_> all googling brings up is reverting video drivers which is not what I need
[22:31] <TJ-> glew_: Any kernel module options are set via files in "/etc/modeprobe.d/" or on the kernel command-line via "/etc/default/grub"
[22:31] <TJ-> glew_: typeo :p "/etc/modprobe.d/"
[22:33] <glew_> TJ-: I modified the files in /lib/modules/<version>/kernel/drivers
[22:33] <glew_> I don't think it was just a kernel module
[22:33] <TJ-> glew_: That's where the binary kernel modules are; what modifications have you been making?
[22:34] <in_deep_thought> TJ-: yeah ok i see those
[22:34] <in_deep_thought> all 5 are checked. enable boot support, enable front usb ports, enable usb3 ports, enable internal usb ports, enable rear usb ports
[22:34] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: They sound like the options that are going to affect your boot experience, so figure out the correct combination to work for you
[22:34] <smoking-peanuts> I am using ubuntu 14.04 .  I had an issue with my nvidia drivers with compiz which means unity got stuck.  So I got interested in using nouveau drivers.  The only way that I could get this to work was to boot linux with the nomodeset option.  All seems to work but now the resolution is limited only 640X480.  If I can get this resolution changed then I would be content
[22:35] <glew_> TJ-: It was a patched driver to fix keyboard/mouse issues with ubuntu on a macbook pro 2015
[22:35] <in_deep_thought> well it seems like having them all checked is the way to go right? just to be sure
[22:35] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: On page 40 the Boot Sequence suggests there sohuld be "USB Storage Device" too
[22:35] <glew_> believe it or not, randomly patching the drivers didn't work
[22:35] <smoking-peanuts> anyone have any ideas on what I might need to do or if I am going about it the wrong way?
[22:35] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: I'd suggest moving USB to the top of the list if that is possible
[22:36] <in_deep_thought> it is
[22:36] <in_deep_thought> its booting into the USB I think, because it works fine before I do that. Its when I boot into the USB that it does the flashing underscore
[22:36] <glew_> I think I may just reinstall ubuntu again. All my config and stuff is backed up, it's just a pain to do
[22:37] <TJ-> glew_: Those files are installed from the kernel packages; so a reinstall of the appropriate "linux-image-<version>-generic" and possibly "linuc-image-extra-<version>-generic" should do it
[22:37] <in_deep_thought> like just the USB itself is whats having those issues
[22:37] <glew_> TJ-: alright, I can do that. Would apt-get install --reinstall do the trick?
[22:38] <in_deep_thought> thats why I wanted to try setting nomodeset on it. but i can’t figure out how to get to the grub menu screen so that I can use the E option to set that config
[22:38] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: OK ... the flashing cursor top-left with a legacy BIOS boot means that the boot device does *not* have valid boot-strap code in the first sector of the device. That suggests some error writing the ISO image to the USB device
[22:38] <TJ-> glew_: precisely :)
[22:39] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: GRUB isn't getting loaded from what you've told me, so holding down Shift isn't going to work until GRUB is loaded
[22:39] <in_deep_thought> ok so I need grub to get loaded
[22:39] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: You're on another Linux-based PC right now?
[22:39] <in_deep_thought> no, osx
[22:39] <glew_> TJ-: Thanks! I'll give it a shot
[22:40] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: Do you know how to use the terminal to read a raw USB device?
[22:40] <in_deep_thought> i know diskutil gives me the list of drives
[22:40] <in_deep_thought> and I know its /dev/disk3
[22:41] <TJ-> glew_to check what the exact names of the packages are needing to be reinstalled do "dpkg -S '<name-of-driver>.ko' and then reinstall the correct package version
[22:42] <igno818> hello ops. Quick question. md5 is default hashing on ubuntu if I update to sha512 will it break anything such as asterisk? there is only one user on the os and I would prefer just to update that user to re-hash the passwd to 512
[22:42] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: I'd like to see what the first sector contains... if you can pulg the USB into that PC and try this (you'll need admin privileges I guess): "dd if=/dev/disk3 bs=512 count=1 | hexdump -C" .... if that works and you see a hexadecimal dump of the bytes then pastebin it for me
[22:42] <igno818> I am just wondering if this would break anything
[22:43] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: I don't know of OSX has the "hexdump" too though - I think it does has "dd"
[22:45] <in_deep_thought> http://pastebin.com/vWnPDSZe
[22:45] <igno818> hello ops is there consequences to updating from md5 to sha512 ?
[22:46] <Paterux> EriC^^: Sorry I'm back again
[22:47] <EriC^^> wb
[22:47] <Paterux> the error I don't rememeber I'll try it now
[22:47] <EriC^^> ok
[22:47] <Paterux> EriC^^: I'll load the usb brb
[22:47] <igno818> no consequences?
[22:48] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: OK, that looks correct. To clear up some confusion though, the hybrid ISO images use isolinux to boot and that boot-strap code is clearly isolinux, so it seems as if the way the PC is booting is causing some form of conflict. I'd suggest trying a UEFI boot from USB if at all possible since the images contain an EFI System Partition
[22:49] <Paterux> EriC^^: ok it showed therror again
[22:50] <Paterux> EriC^^: Iloaded it non eufi just usb
[22:50] <Paterux> EriC^^: and once on grub selected gnu linux
[22:51] <Paterux> EriC^^: the error it kinda says is alert /dev/disk/by-uuidofedd etc does not exist dropping to shell
[22:51] <in_deep_thought> ok, with UEFI, I know I need to add a boot option. How do I know what the file system list and file name will be?
[22:51] <in_deep_thought> is it just the name of the iso file?
[22:54] <poseidon> On ubuntu 15.04, how should I go about using google's dns to resolve hostnames?
[22:54] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: With a UEFI boot, the boot-manager menu appears and is generated by GRUB (not isolinux). You can then press 'e' over a highlighted boot menu entry to edit it, and then navigate to the line beginning "linux ..." and then add to it "nomodeset" and press F10 or Ctrl+X to boot with that amendment
[22:55] <nicomachus> Paterux: sounds like your missing initrd
[22:55] <in_deep_thought> TJ-: well so I am changing so that it boots from UEFI. then the only option is ubuntu. Do choose that, then restart, then press some button to get into the UEFI boot menu?
[22:56] <in_deep_thought> then edit it to use nomodeset
[22:56] <Paterux> nicomachus: how come? is not windows
[22:57] <nicomachus> Paterux: each kernel comes with an initrd file as well that assists in the boot process. Fixing it is as simple as loading up a live usb/disk, checking to make it's present, and either loading it or refreshing it as needed.
[22:57] <nicomachus> checking to make sure it's present*
[22:57] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: If I remember correctly, you can edit that "Ubuntu" entry in the menu by highlighting it and pressing "e"
[22:58] <EriC^^> TJ-: Paterux had installed ubuntu to his usb in uefi mode, it had a msdos partition table, and he wants to use it on another pc that has legacy, we removed /boot/efi from fstab and installed grub-pc etc. and ran grub-install and update-grub and removed the .efi kernels and reinstalled the normal ones, he gets an error after grub
[22:58] <EriC^^> alert /dev/disk/by-uuidofedd etc does not exist dropping to shell
[22:59] <nicomachus> EriC^^: initrd?
[22:59] <EriC^^> we tried update-initramfs -u -k all
[22:59] <nicomachus> ah ok
[22:59] <in_deep_thought> TJ- ok so I used the system configuration menu to set it to UEFI. then I reboot and press F12 to enter the boot options menu. now I am in the UEFI menu. Are you saying that I should be able to edit the ubuntu entry in here by pressing e while highlighted on it?
[22:59] <EriC^^> let me get a paste of grub.cfg and blkid
[23:00] <TJ-> EriC^^: Are you able to check whether the missing UUID belongs to the root file-system? Are there any pastebins gathered earlier on this?
[23:00] <EriC^^> grub.cfg http://paste.ubuntu.com/11871881/
[23:00] <Paterux> EriC^^: you want me to type that?
[23:01] <EriC^^> blkid http://paste.ubuntu.com/11871882/
[23:01] <EriC^^> Paterux: no
[23:01] <TJ-> in_deep_thought: No ... at that point you're still in the PC's own firmware boot-device selector. If the USB device isn't appearing in the list then there's nothing we can do - its a problem with either the PC, the USB device, or them falling out with each other
[23:02] <in_deep_thought> ok cool
[23:02] <in_deep_thought> time to try another usb deviec
[23:02] <in_deep_thought> thanks for all your help with this TJ-
[23:04] <TJ-> EriC^^: Is that an Ubuntu install? "GNU/Linux" ? Ubuntu writes that as "Ubuntu, with ..."
[23:05] <EriC^^> TJ-: yeah, it's an ubuntu install
[23:05] <EriC^^> he had the lts-utopic kernel installed, we removed it and installed the linux-image-generic package
[23:06] <TJ-> EriC^^: Well, the failure sounds to be coming from the initrd, so the grub config is working if its getting that far
[23:07] <EriC^^> TJ-: i remember he had an error earlier about i/o on the usb
[23:08] <EriC^^> smartctl said http://paste.ubuntu.com/11871690/
[23:09] <TJ-> EriC^^: I wonder if the initrd is missing USB mass-storage modules ?
[23:09] <EriC^^> how can we check?
[23:10] <TJ-> I'm trying to recall if initrd has lspci/lsusb available, so we can compare device IDs with available drivers
[23:15] <moonlander> anyone know where i could find a torrent for the 15.10 alpha isos?
[23:16] <k1l> moonlander: dont know if there are torrents for alphas
[23:16] <TJ-> EriC^^: Paterux At the "(initramfs)" Busybox prompt, type "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/"
[23:16] <bubbasaures> no torrent till release I believe
[23:16] <genii> moonlander: Before release usually just iso files at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-live/current/
[23:16] <moonlander> i was hoping someone had hosted them heh
[23:16] <Paterux> TJ-: me?
[23:16] <moonlander> yeah i'm grabbing them from there but slow d/l speeds atm
[23:17] <TJ-> Paterux: Yes. if its your system having the USB boot problem
[23:18] <Paterux> TJ-: ok I typed that
[23:18] <TJ-> Paterux: EriC^^ If you don't see the UUID of the Linux root file-system that tends to confirm the USB device is missing drivers
[23:18] <genii> moonlander: Yes, the first time downloading it can be a pain. You might want to also ask in #ubuntu+1 , someone there might have an unofficial torrent someplace
[23:18] <TJ-> Paterux: According to the GRUB configuration the UUID is "0fedd493-3116-43e6-bddd-4ef544694daf"
[23:18] <moonlander> alright, thanks genii
[23:20] <jr> How do I access mangle? I want to play with it. (I know this isn't a good idea)
[23:21] <Paterux> TJ-: yea it mentions it but is pointing to to ../../sdf3 and on the pc I installed it on it was labeled as sdc so I don't know if that matter but is showing it
[23:21] <TJ-> Paterux: Well, that's progress if it sees it as /dev/sdf3 !
[23:22] <Paterux> TJ-: shouln'd it autoadjust
[23:23] <TJ-> Paterux: Type "mount" and confirm there is an entry "tmpfs on /run ..."
[23:23] <Dawgmatix> Any pointers on how to change the size of the toolbar on top of the screen? I have multiple monitors and for some reason the toolbar on one screen has lesser height
[23:23] <Dawgmatix> I had changed text scaling factor earlier, but I have reset that to 1.0
[23:24] <Dawgmatix> two of my monitors now have a larger toolbar and 1 monitor has a toolbar that has lesser height
[23:24] <Paterux> TJ-: one sec
[23:24] <TJ-> Dawgmatix: Those sizes are calculated from each monitor's physical dimensions and pixel resolution, as reported by the monitor's EDID
[23:25] <Paterux> TJ-: yes there is
[23:26] <Dawgmatix> TJ - will xrandr be a good way to examine what the monitor is reporting?
[23:26] <TJ-> Dawgmatix: yes
[23:27] <TJ-> Paterux: OK, lets see if we can manually mount the file-system to check it is at least visible. Do "mkdir /run/mnt"
[23:27] <TJ-> Paterux: Then do "mount /dev/sdf3 /run/mnt"     and if that does't report errors, try listing the files with "ls -al /run/mnt/"
[23:28] <TJ-> Paterux: You should see what looks like the root-directory of an installed file system, with directories like "bin boot dev etc home lib root sbin usr var" and others
[23:30] <Paterux> TJ-: it says mount failed no such file or direcoty
[23:31] <TJ-> Paterux: OK, that looks like sdf may not exist after all. Try "cat /proc/partitions" - do you see any mention of 'sdf' or 'sdf3' ?
[23:32] <Paterux> TJ-: there is listing from sda to sde not but sdf
[23:32] <TJ-> EriC^^: Paterux I think this needs a Live ISO "Try Ubuntu" boot (in Legacy BIOS mode) and then building a chroot to mount the USB at. There aren't sufficient tools in the initrd to work on it
[23:33] <EriC^^> TJ-: ok
[23:33] <nicomachus> I was almost on to something!
[23:33] <Paterux> TJ-: I'm on live iso right now next to the pc with the usb drive
[23:33] <TJ-> Paterux: EriC^^  The fact you have a static /dev/disk/by-uuid/0fedd493-3116-43e6-bddd-4ef544694daf   entry is worrying, since there shouldn't be any reference to that file-system if the kernel can't see it. That is probably why this is failing, but I'm not usre how that entry couyld get there
[23:34] <EriC^^> Paterux: can you boot a live usb session on the same pc you want to use the usb on?
[23:34] <TJ-> Paterux: don't do anything yet!!!! I have a brainwave
[23:34] <TJ-> EriC^^: discussion time again!
[23:34] <EriC^^> :D
[23:35] <TJ-> EriC^^: I'm wondering if we can re-write that /dev/disk/by-uuid/ entry sufficiently to make this boot. If we can find the correct partition from /proc/partitions
[23:35] <TJ-> Paterux: EriC^^ Do you see in the output of "cat /proc/partitions" an "sde3" ?
[23:36] <Paterux> TJ-: no only up to sde1
[23:37] <TJ-> Paterux: Is there *any* device listed that has a number 3 on the end?
[23:37] <Paterux> TJ-: no
[23:39] <TJ-> Paterux: Does "blkid" list the UUID of the root file-system "0fedd493-3116-43e6-bddd-4ef544694daf"  ?
[23:39] <cofo> when i'm trying to do sudo apt-get install XYZ i'm receive: Bus error (core dumped)
[23:40] <Dawgmatix> I installed xfce and it changed the lightdm theme
[23:40] <Dawgmatix> how do i change it back to the behavior of using my desktop wallpaper
[23:40] <Paterux> TJ-: no only my 4 hds and 1 sd card none has that number either
[23:40] <carlf> Is there any way to track what called upstart to kill a process? We see docker getting SIGTERM from PID 1 but have no idea what is triggering it.
[23:41] <TJ-> Paterux: Then I think it is as I originally theorised - the initrd.img is missing key USB drivers required to read that device
[23:42] <Paterux> TJ-: yea
[23:42] <EriC^^> TJ-: he installed the kernels and updated the initramfs on another pc that he is using
[23:43] <TJ-> Paterux: You'll have to boot the PC from a Live ISO (in legacy BIOS mode), use the "Try Ubuntu" option, then build a chroot. You'll need to identify the motherboard's USB drivers in use (lsmod) and ensure all those required are listed in the target's "/etc/initramfs-tools/modules" and then rebuild the initrd image
[23:43] <cofo> EriC^^: Do you know why?
[23:43] <EriC^^> maybe it didn't update the initramfs with the stuff required for the other pc to use the usb?
[23:43] <TJ->  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ that
[23:43] <TJ-> I have to head off now but hopefully I've given you a recipe to recover it
[23:45] <EriC^^> ok
[23:46] <Paterux> TJ-: ok so I first build and mount chroot that is with sudo chroot /mnt correct?
[23:46] <Paterux> TJ-: ok you're leaving
[23:46] <EriC^^> Paterux: can you boot the live usb session on the same pc you want to use the usb on?
[23:47] <cofo> when i'm trying to do sudo apt-get install XYZ i'm receive: Bus error (core dumped)
[23:47] <Paterux> EriC^^: so I have to do this with every pc or different usb drivers that I connect the usb drive to? or will it boot universally
[23:47] <Paterux> EriC^^: right on
[23:48] <TJ-> Paterux: It's past my bedtime :)   ... if you want USB universal boot ability you'll need to ensure all the USB specific mass storage drivers are added to the initrd
[23:50] <EriC^^> TJ-: is there a list of all the usb drivers somewhere?
[23:50] <TJ-> EriC^^: By default the initrd will have "MODULES=most" set in "/etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf" so it should only need a few extra modules to satisfy the requirement
[23:51] <EriC^^> TJ-: ok
[23:52] <Pateru> EriC^^: right here
[23:52] <TJ-> EriC^^: might be best to check Paterux does have that setting already. I *think* the update-initramfs run on the chroot target will figure out which drivers are required for its current root file-system mount, so "update-initramfs" may be sufficient - use the "-v" option and log to a file to check all the modules included. e.g. "update-initramfs -vu -k <version> |& tee /tmp/initrd.log"
[23:53] <EriC^^> TJ-: ok, thanks
[23:54] <EriC^^> Pateru: type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:54] <sloantothebone> Hi
[23:54] <Pateru> EriC^^: ok
[23:55] <sloantothebone> My gnome lock screen is pure blue, I think its caused by installing gnome panel
[23:55] <pedro> #ubuntu
[23:55] <sloantothebone> How do I fix this?
[23:56] <EriC^^> Pateru: type sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[23:56] <pedro> Hi, I need some help, is there ?anybody from Brazil here
[23:56] <EriC^^> !br | pedro
[23:56] <Pateru> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11875059/
[23:57] <EriC^^> Pateru: oh wow, it doesn't see the usb O.o
[23:57] <EriC^^> Pateru: is it connected?
[23:57] <Pateru> EriC^^: is that good
[23:57] <mach20x> Computer will boot in recovery mode and print image to HDMI, but does not do so when starting normally.
[23:57] <Pateru> EriC^^: let me confirm
[23:59] <Pateru> EriC^^: well is connected to the pc but I can reconnected to try again
[23:59] <EriC^^> Pateru: ok, try unplugging and plugging back in
[23:59] <Pateru> EriC^^: ok it seems it now, I think this pc has a problem with that port
[23:59] <mach20x> I just replaced my motherboard. the new motherboard does not have an ide connector for the ribbon cable. Is there some way that I am supposed to upgrade to make full use of this AMD board?