[22:02] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[22:02] <RequinB4> ^^
[22:02] <disc> How do I disable Alt+rightMouseClick?
[22:02] <jmauler> robdig:  but profile is for the entire system, or just for terminals?
[22:02] <adamorjames> all-knowing <-- lol
[22:02] <Ashex> I'm trying to compile moviefly and I get this error when running configure:
[22:03] <Ashex> configure: error: failed to find required module stringtemplate
[22:03] <jakeydo1> hi
[22:03] <pythondasnake> Hi testing out Ubuntu from an ISO Image I burned. Now does Yahoo msgr work with UBUNTU or your basic applications I had run on my windows machine?
[22:03] <yaser> hay, i have just installed gutsy, then my NVidia 8600GT, all perfect. When i reboot i can start Xserver, i sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server with nv driver and everything is fine, with nvidia driver it doesnt start, i was working perfectly prior to reinstall with aceleration and all that stuff, what can i do?
[22:03] <pike_> pythondasnake: see pidgin
[22:03] <pike_> !pidgin
[22:03] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It is available in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), but not previous versions. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[22:03] <bjames> pythondasnake: try pidgin
[22:03] <pike_> pythondasnake: oh.. yahoo not sure
[22:03] <RequinB4> pythondasnake - pidgin
[22:03] <pythondasnake> I'm using pidgin as we speak ..
[22:04] <pythondasnake> but didn't see a yahoo protocol for it
[22:04] <bjames> so am I ;)
[22:04] <RequinB4> pythondasnake - if you prefer firefox like me try www.meebo.com
[22:04] <Ashex> pythondasnake, take a look here for linux equivelants to windows software: http://www.linuxscrew.com/2007/11/22/windows-software-linux-software/
[22:04] <RequinB4> broswer based so you don't mess it up
[22:04] <joeb3_> pythondasnake, pidgin does yahoo
[22:04] <bjames> it DOES support yahoo
[22:04] <pythondasnake> Yeah I use meebo but ..
[22:04] <RequinB4> and pidgin should do yahoo
[22:04] <jmauler> I tried to change /etc/enviroment, but the changes didnt work
[22:04] <bjames> how do I get kernel logs from the last boot?
[22:04] <RequinB4> tho mine is broken
[22:04] <pythondasnake> I tried loading the installer and it wouldn't run yahoo..
[22:04] <Xess> Is this normal out put for iwconfig?  Access Point: Invalid
[22:04] <Dan> irc.wyldryde.org
[22:04] <Ashex> bjames, check /var/log
[22:04] <pythondasnake> Meebo is webbased though
[22:05] <Dr_willis> pythondasnake,  'loadint the installer' ?
[22:05] <pythondasnake> I want it permennt
[22:05] <bjames> Ashex: cheers
[22:05] <robdig> jmauler: believe entire system
[22:05] <adamorjames> desertc: still not working'
[22:05] <jmauler> robdig: Ok, I ll try
[22:05] <pythondasnake> I ran the installer.. I'm sorry Dr_willis I have been using windows so long I'm a noob and don't know what I'm doing
[22:05] <joeb3_> pythondasnake, in pidgin, add account for yahoo
[22:05] <RequinB4> pythondasnake - while we're on the subject of pidgin can anyone help me fix mine? it broke one day in feisty and hasn't been fixed
[22:05] <desertc> adamorjames: I'm stumped.
[22:05] <pythondasnake> The protocol wasn't there though
[22:05] <Dr_willis> pythondasnake,  the installer for what? pidgin?
[22:05] <disc> how do I get into mouse system keys?
[22:05] <RequinB4> sorry not directed to you python
[22:05] <pythondasnake> The installer I got of the net for yahoo Dr_willis
[22:06] <adamorjames> desertc: could it be related to mplayer having a codec error?
[22:06] <thompa> total lockup while listening to rythmbox and using ktorrent, nothing in the logs?
[22:06] <Dr_willis> pythondasnake,  Still not sure what you mean.. if you mean the Official Yahoo (from yahoo.com ) chat program. Its so old its scary. You can install pidgin with the packatge manager, and it should have yahoo support in there.
[22:06] <jmauler> robdig:  The file description says it is for shell initialization..
[22:06] <disc> How do I turn off Alt+mouseclicking?
[22:06] <pythondasnake> I basically want to know if most applications will run on UBUNTU that I currently use now.. Such as the Text editor I use to write code in for Java or Python ?
[22:07] <adamorjames> desertc: mplayer says cannot open codec
[22:07] <Swian> python pretty much anything you use has a linux version
[22:07] <adamorjames> desertc: but it still plays
[22:07] <Swian> text edit, check
[22:07] <jmauler> robdig:  So I dont know if I start from gnome it will work
[22:07] <pythondasnake> Ok..
[22:07] <Swian> yahoo client check
[22:07] <pythondasnake> Perhaps Yahelite would work
[22:07] <RequinB4> anyone want to help me fix pidgin - it won't connect to anything
[22:08] <Sajes> Anyone know why I received this error when compiling WINE from source? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45730/ (Gutsy Gibbon 32Bit)
[22:08] <Dr_willis> pythondasnake,  linux is not windows.. you normally find limnux apps to do what you want.
[22:08] <margaret> pike_: I'm about to throw in the towel
[22:08] <pythondasnake> Ok..
[22:08] <margaret> this is nuts
[22:08] <zeroflag> Sajes: get the package.
[22:08] <pike_> margaret: what happened? worst case just upgrade to latest ubuntu
[22:08] <Dr_willis> pythondasnake,  and the pidgin in UBuntu Gutsy - has Yahoo Chat support. :) i just checked
[22:08] <meoblast001> pike_: i got the error FATAL: Module bcmwl5 not found when i used modprobe
[22:08] <disc> how can it be so fucking hard to diable the alt+rightmouse click option?? jesus christ I've been asking this same question for weeks! just tell me goddamnit!! It's so piss easy you can't even find it on the net so just PLEASE tell me!
[22:09] <adamorjames> desertc: vlc has no sound with the video either
[22:09] <margaret> pike_: gdm fails to start, same thing
[22:09] <jimmy_> can anyone tell me why, or even better, how to solve : only being able to have 1 application at a time use sound, ie Amarok, Kopete, TeamSpeak etc etc
[22:09] <Sajes> zeroflag: Which one? I did "sudo apt-cache search opengl" and many came up. I downloaded a few and still nothing different.
[22:09] <pike_> meoblast001: you ran ndis against the .inf file first?
[22:09] <kitche> !language | disc
[22:09] <RequinB4> pythondasnake - different operating system means you need different file format - for windows its .exe
[22:09] <ubotu> disc: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[22:09] <pythondasnake> I'm going to run UBUNTU again and ask my noob questions from there lol .. brb.. Thanks Dr_willis you've been helpful
[22:09] <sp3000> disc: never heard of it
[22:09]  * Dr_willis wonders what alt-right click even does...
[22:09] <desertc> jimmy_: No sound mixer.....
[22:09] <meoblast001> pike_: ?
[22:09] <lufis> Is there any way to upload images to flickr in linux? I tried flickrfs but keep getting a python error
[22:09] <Dr_willis> pythondasnake,  theres pidgin for windows also. :)
[22:09] <meoblast001> pike_: how do i do that?
[22:09] <sp3000> Dr_willis: nothing, as far as I know :)
[22:09] <rawrxyx> hey guys u have a question
[22:09] <disc> jusy hold in alt, then right click with the mosue and you will see
[22:09] <pythondasnake> I know I'm using it as we speak
[22:09] <pike_> margaret: lsb_release   what does that say what version?
[22:09] <rawrxyx> *i have a question
[22:09] <jimmy_> desert: how can i set up a sound mixer?
[22:09] <meoblast001> pike_: modprobe is the first thing in the tutorial
[22:09] <Dr_willis> disc,  that wont work for me.. sice im ssh'd in :) and using xming.
[22:09] <pike_> lsb_release -a
[22:10] <yaser> hay, i have just installed gutsy, then my NVidia 8600GT, all perfect. When i reboot i can start Xserver, i sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server with nv driver and everything is fine, with nvidia driver it doesnt start, i was working perfectly prior to reinstall with aceleration and all that stuff, what can i do, any log i can check?
[22:10] <Dr_willis> disc,  also it may be highly window manager specific.
[22:10] <disc> well hwo do I turn it off??
[22:10] <lufis> yaser: are you at the command line?
[22:10] <sp3000> disc: how did you turn it on?
[22:10] <yaser> lufis, not now
[22:10] <disc> it was there by default, using ubuntu with gnome
[22:10] <pike_> margaret: once i know your version ill just give you a one liner to upgrade to latest and see if that works
[22:10] <lufis> yaser: you can set the xorg file back to default in the command line
[22:10] <kitche> disc: recompile the window manager most likely or disable the shortcut if it is a shortcut
[22:11] <Pici> disc: If nobody is answering, nobody knows.
[22:11] <margaret> pike_: 7.04
[22:11] <disc> it's a mouse shortcut I think
[22:11] <Dr_willis> disc,  could also check in #gnome - i dont use gnome..  and dont know what you are refring to.. so good luck
[22:11] <yaser> lufis, yea i did, but im using nv driver instead of nvidia
[22:11] <zeroflag> Sajes: talking about the wine package. if that error doesn't tell you anything, you better not mess with source. OpenGL is usually delivered via VGA drivers. so if you have a nvidia card, get their package from restricted (I think it's uni/multiverse), if it's ATi, you might be screwed but you should still be able to find a driver package.
[22:11] <jimmy_> yaser: i had a similar issue, try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[22:11] <rawrxyx> how do i get the affects in compiz fusion to work
[22:11] <jimmy_> it worked for me
[22:11] <sp3000> disc: stuff like describing what appears a bit more of having a screenshot would be helpful
[22:11] <RequinB4> Can anyone help me get pidgin working? I can't get it to connect to AIM, IRC, or MSN
[22:11] <Sajes> zeroflag: I downloaded and installed the nvidia drivers first thing after installing gutsy.
[22:12] <sp3000> s/of/or
[22:12] <yaser> jimmy_, and try nvidia driver?
[22:12] <LtEmerpoc> hi guys im back
[22:12] <sp3000> /
[22:12] <jimmy_> set it to "nv", thats what i did
[22:12] <pike_> margaret: sudo N*.run --uninstall; sudo sed -i 's/feisty/gutsy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new; sudo nvidia-glx-config
[22:12] <yaser> jimmy_, but nv is not the propietary diver isnt?
[22:12] <Carburo> ciao
[22:12] <andy_123> hi all
[22:13] <jimmy_> nv=nvidia
[22:13] <andy_123> i have a problem with evolution's local delivery
[22:13] <sp3000> except as teh driver names go, last I checked
[22:13] <zeroflag> Sajes: bash -> glxgears
[22:13] <yaser> jimmy_, you dont have grapgics aceleration with nv driber, isnt?
[22:13] <Carburo> hello
[22:13] <andy_123> i'm getting an error that /var/spool/mail is a directory
[22:13] <andy_123> is there a solution to this?
[22:14] <sp3000> andy_123: are you trying to run it?
[22:14] <Sajes> zeroflag: it pops up with gears and gives me a line of "4351 frames in 5.0 seconds = 870.168".
[22:14] <jimmy_> yaser: I'm not totally sure since im a noob myself, but i had the similar issue to you where i screwed up my xserver, also try rebooting after running that command, took me ages to think of that but it DID work
[22:14] <andy_123> sp3000, when i try to retrieve my mail, i'm getting this error
[22:14] <yaser> jimmy_, but now, do you have graphics aceleration? compiz or something?
[22:14] <zeroflag> Sajes: that means opengl is installed.
[22:14] <zeroflag> Sajes: honestly, get the wine package.
[22:14] <andy_123> i have another system weith another linux distro setup exactly the same way and there it works
[22:15] <andy_123> is this a bug ?
[22:15] <Carburo> is there someone who knows how to activate user list in xchat? I can`t see whos in the room
[22:15] <jimmy_> yaser: not sure to be honest, but my games (world of warcraft and guildwars) run a LOT better than on windows anyway :P
[22:15] <Sajes> zeroflag: I already tried that before, and it installs but it plays starcraft like it was on emulated vram. If it can't find opengl then it has to be why it's lagging even with the .deb package.
[22:15] <meoblast001> pike_: so do i skip the sudo modprobe -r bcmwl5 step?
[22:15] <andy_123> anyone using evolution with local delivery?
[22:16] <sp3000> andy_123: I don't have local mail configured on my ubuntu install so dunno. "is a directory" is a string you do get if you try to execute a directory (other cases possible of course)
[22:16] <pike_> meoblast001: rather do that after you run ndiswrapper
[22:16] <meoblast001> well i used sudo su since i dont want my dad to keep typing in the password
[22:16] <yaser> jimmy_, really?? wich version of WoW?
[22:16] <meoblast001> pike_: ok
[22:16] <jimmy_> yaser: the latest, 2.3 i think it is
[22:16] <pike_> meoblast001: but someone else here will have to help you if you need more info ive never used ndis
[22:16] <joeb3_> Carburo, move you mouse close to the right side of the window.  When it changes to a double arrow, drag it to the left.
[22:16] <yaser> jimmy_, under wine?
[22:16] <zeroflag> Sajes: I use nvidia drivers and wine from apt and starcraft runs just fine.
[22:16] <jimmy_> yaser: yes
[22:16] <MuffY> yaser: I played the latest version of WoW without any flaws
[22:17] <MuffY> well, voice chat doesn't work
[22:17] <yaser> jimmy_, MuffY is tehre any special configuration of wine needed?
[22:17] <MuffY> yaser: no
[22:17] <Sajes> zeroflag: Then consider myself unlucky. I tried the WINE from the repositories and it did the same thing.
[22:17] <andy_123> oki, looks llike this is a bug
[22:17] <MuffY> yaser: just copy the WoW folder from a windows partition, or install it under wine
[22:17] <jimmy_> yaser: getting wow to work under wine was serious effort for me, but I found a good guide here http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-games-33/world-of-warcraft-in-wine-success-485886/
[22:17] <srm> ryan8403:
[22:18] <srm> sorry
[22:18] <sp3000> so would someone with gutsy and a rather crowded display open a few apps -> utils -> terminal and tell me how they get positioned in relation to each other
[22:18] <sp3000> because here they all end up at top left which is a bit sad
[22:18] <yaser> MuffY, jimmy_ thanks very much ill try it
[22:18] <jimmy_> yaser: best thing to do, is install it and update it on your windows partition, use winecfg to map "D" to /media/sda2 or whatever the windows drive is, then run it as "wine "D\world of warcraft\Wow.exe"-opengl"
[22:18] <MuffY> yaser: ah well, I think you should look at that. I remember I had to make a launcher with some simple bash line to start wine with the right parameters
[22:18] <_michael> Hello I'm looking to upgrade to Gutsy, but I certainly don't want the full contents of the ubuntu-desktop meta package. Is there a way to go about the upgrade only upgrading packages I currently have installed?
[22:19] <RequinB4> sp3000 - top left bottom right top right then bottom left
[22:19] <zeroflag> Sajes: starcraft is a really old game that already worked nicely back when broodwar came out. so unless you have REALLY old hardware, I'd say something else than wine is wrong.
[22:19] <RequinB4> starcraft doesn't work on Xp sometimes now
[22:19] <sp3000> RequinB4: on top of other windows or in empty space? what about when there's no empty space? windowmanager (metacity)? effects on (no)?
[22:19] <Xess> Yeah. I am not getting any where on my wireless. I could really use some help on it.
[22:19] <xeer> hi everyone! i'm having problems logging into my desktop. if i switch the session to failsafe gnome, it loads my startup applications but my panel and desktop wont load. if i try to login normally, it lags for about 20 seconds and then kicks me back to the login screen (looks like it's restarting gdm)
[22:19] <Sajes> zeroflag: I'm on an nvidia geforce fx5500 128mb. It's really old, but not commodore 64 old.
[22:20] <RequinB4> sp3000 - on top of my maximized Xchat program, running compiz-fusion
[22:20] <sp3000> ah, k
[22:20] <sp3000> thanks
[22:20]  * sp3000 hasn't ventured to compiz land yet
[22:20] <yaser> jimmy_, MuffY ok thanks both
[22:20]  * sp3000 doesn't really know if he should expect to succeed with ati hw
[22:20] <kinroad> jimmy_: how can guild wars run better than in windows? I have cedega and it lags and crashes
[22:21] <RequinB4> sp3000 - its a magical land of milk and honey
[22:21] <zeroflag> Sajes: this should be more than enough - especially since starcraft does NOT use ANY 3D features. you should check the appdb on winehq.
[22:21] <sp3000> RequinB4: oh, I thought is was a magical land of dragons
[22:21] <RequinB4> took me a little bit to get it towrking with my integrated stuff
[22:21] <jimmy_> kinroad: i'm not sure, i guess I just hit it lucky with that one :P
[22:21] <kinroad> jimmy_: and with wine runs like 1fps
[22:21] <RequinB4> sp3000 - i guess they are fat dragons
[22:21] <eclipse7500> hello
[22:21] <sp3000> once they're done with the mil and honey, probably
[22:21] <Sajes> zeroflag: I've played SC and brood war on WinXp. They run fine; But I don't want to have to reboot every time I want to play it.
[22:21] <jimmy_> kinroad: i get 25 fps on vista with GW, but well over 60 thru wine :S
[22:21] <RequinB4> hi eclipse7500
[22:22] <eclipse7500> anybody ever have any issues with the via82cxx sound card??
[22:22] <simplechat> hey
[22:22] <xeer> hi everyone! i'm having problems logging into my desktop. if i switch the session to failsafe gnome, it loads my startup applications but my panel and desktop wont load. if i try to login normally, it lags for about 20 seconds and then kicks me back to the login screen (looks like it's restarting gdm)
[22:22] <kinroad> jimmy_: I get about 80 with w2k, but only 25 on cedega
[22:23] <jimmy_> kinroad: strange, you using the -opengl paramter?
[22:23] <eclipse7500> the module is loaded, yet it doesnt play back any audio, i have everything unmuted. i read to try pci=noacpi in the boot options, still no luck though
[22:23] <zeroflag> Sajes: again, check the appdb. I got it working nicely here, straight from apt.
[22:23] <kinroad> jimmy_: no, does it help?
[22:23] <eclipse7500> ive been reading about possibly a conflict with the irqs
[22:23] <matthew_> help!  i uninstalled compiz / desktop effects and not my windows don't have a border!!  what do I do??!  I don't want desktop effects, I just want normal metacity
[22:24] <Sajes> zeroflag: I know it runs in wine. Checking the appdb will not make wine detect that opengl libraries are on my PC.
[22:24] <jimmy_> kinroad: possibly, try using opengl and see if you have the same issue
[22:24] <RequinB4> eclipse - stab in the dark try acpi=off rather then pci=noacpi
[22:25] <xeer> i'm having problems logging into my desktop. if i switch the session to failsafe gnome, it loads my startup applications but my panel and desktop wont load. if i try to login normally, it lags for about 20 seconds and then kicks me back to the login screen (looks like it's restarting gdm)
[22:25] <eclipse7500> RequinB4: hmm could that be harmful or anything to my hardware?
[22:26] <andy_123> is it possible to run thinderbird with local mail delivery?
[22:26] <kinroad> jimmy_: it helped! Thanks a lot! It runs 50 fps with full graphics :D
[22:26] <Moniker42> can i set the resolution of the console i get when i use ctrl-alt-f1?
[22:26] <jimmy_> kinroad: nice one, have fun :D
[22:26] <RequinB4> eclipse7500 - i'm running it right now to fix my sound actually, it should take away your power management/battery life stuff tho
[22:26] <zeroflag> Sajes: since I had to check the appdb for you AND find EXACTLY your problem described there in a HUGE, impossible-to-miss blue box, I will NOT post the link for you - lazy &^#&^@!
[22:27] <doctorevil> hey :)
[22:27] <RequinB4> but otherwise it worksfine
[22:27] <eclipse7500> RequinB4: ahh gotcha. well i appreciate the help
[22:27] <eclipse7500> RequinB4: yeah its for a desktop anyways
[22:27] <eclipse7500> RequinB4: well im off to try it, thanks
[22:27] <RequinB4> kk
[22:27] <pythondasnake> How do I locate a command prompt using Ubuntu.. I am using the os for the first time of an ISO image I burned just playing around with it
[22:27] <Sajes> zeroflag: It doesn't happen with just starcraft, and now I will stop asking you questions, seeing as you're being impossible to talk to. Goodbye.
[22:28] <RequinB4> !terminal | pythondasnake
[22:28] <ubotu> pythondasnake: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[22:28] <pythondasnake> Ok  thankyoiu
[22:28] <jared> For some reason or another, ubuntu isn't showing my battery on my laptop. 00:51   	 More in People & Blogs
[22:28] <jared> Add Video to QuickList
[22:28] <pythondasnake> Now will the command help give me a list of commands ?
[22:28] <jared>
[22:28] <jared> What happens when you're on crack!
[22:28] <toresn> i changed my video drivers (using an external screen instead of the one on the laptop)... and mplayer suddenly wont work anymore
[22:28] <jared> is on crack...we show what happens when you're on crack..so enjoy an 00:51   	 More in People & Blogs
[22:28] <zeroflag> jared: \o/
[22:28] <jared> Add Video to QuickList
[22:28] <toresn> what could be the reason?
[22:28] <jared>
[22:28] <jared> What happens when you're on crack!
[22:28] <jared> is on crack...we show what happens when you're on crack..so enjoy an 00:51   	 More in People & Blogs
[22:29] <jared> Add Video to QuickList
[22:29] <jared>
[22:29] <jared> What happens when you're on crack!
[22:29] <jared> oh dear zeroflag my laptop ws closed and I dunno what jus got pasted wtf.
[22:30] <toresn> i changed my video drivers (using an external screen instead of the one on the laptop)... and mplayer suddenly wont work anymore
[22:30] <toresn> what could be the reason?
[22:30] <zeroflag> jared: you don't wanna know.
[22:30] <disc> how do I change the super key??
[22:30] <toresn> or rather what should i do to make mplayer work again
[22:30] <xeer> i'm having problems logging into my desktop. if i switch the session to failsafe gnome, it loads my startup applications but my panel and desktop wont load. if i try to login normally, it lags for about 20 seconds and then kicks me back to the login screen (looks like it's restarting gdm)
[22:30] <toresn> ?
[22:30] <RequinB4> jared: that's hilarious
[22:32] <Sajes> zeroflag: If you're talking about "Cure for Slowness", then obviously you've completely mistook the problem. Let me walk you through this. Wine can't find opengl libraries. I can't edit a registry if there isn't one. If I can't compile wine, how would it install. Furthermore, the debian package, and the apt repository have the same problem on my machine.
[22:32] <RequinB4> disc - system - preferences - keyboard
[22:34] <Sajes> zeroflag: But, I have been able to successfully play "AssaultCube" at great rates. The problem lies with wine.
[22:34] <bernardino> opa
[22:35] <LtEmerpoc> hey is anyone here
[22:35] <LtEmerpoc> ?
[22:35] <RequinB4> No, we're hiding
[22:35] <LtEmerpoc> damn
[22:35] <LtEmerpoc> marco
[22:35] <RequinB4> *doesn't answer*
[22:35] <LtEmerpoc> marco!
[22:35] <RequinB4> p----o------l------o
[22:36] <MikeW> MichealPW: It makes it confusing when there are two different people in the one channel sharing the same nick!
[22:36] <RequinB4> so, how great is ubuntu?
[22:36] <xeer> i'm having problems logging into my desktop. if i switch the session to failsafe gnome, it loads my startup applications but my panel and desktop wont load. if i try to login normally, it lags for about 20 seconds and then kicks me back to the login screen (looks like it's restarting gdm)
[22:36] <Dr_willis> RequinB4,  better then sliced butter. :)
[22:36] <Mark761966> God, I hate it when the terminal keeps telling me a file or directory doesn't exist when I know perfectly well that it does
[22:37] <RequinB4> Dr_willis - Yeah, it had me at "Hello World"
[22:37] <Mark761966> I know I have a bloody directory called Desktop. I can see if when I open my file manager
[22:37] <nensondubois> Trendmicro antivirus is good
[22:37] <RequinB4> Mark
[22:37] <RequinB4> Desktop not desktop
[22:37] <Mark761966> Yes. that's what I did
[22:37] <RequinB4> and try /home/USRNAME/Desktop
[22:37] <LtEmerpoc> ubuntu is great
[22:38] <Mark761966> Still told me it didn't exist
[22:38] <xeer> mark, ~/Desktop
[22:38] <Noodels> Anyone got a spare moment to help me find bugs in a program I've written? No downloads needed.
[22:38] <disc> Resize window = Alt+Right-click, Move window = Alt+Left-click :: How do I turn these options off?
[22:38] <Mark761966> Thanks Requin. I was trying to get to it one dir at a time
[22:38] <RequinB4> Mark - go to a directory you know and use ls
[22:38] <RequinB4> yeah
[22:40] <atlfalcons866> how can i see fan speedf
[22:40] <nensondubois> Fuck you tea suckin brits
[22:40] <jameswf-home> “I believe in making the world safe for our children, but not our children's children, because I don't think children should be having sex.”
[22:41] <Noodels> Well if anyone's got a minute, I'd appreciate it if they went to a terminal and typed 'telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 4666' or used a mud client of their choice.
[22:41] <bjames> nensondubois: steady now
[22:41] <RequinB4> Noodels - is that advertising a MUD lol
[22:42] <ma2> how do i uninstall deb file in recovery mode ?
[22:42] <bjames> if anyone can successfully help me to get my wireless working he/she can have £5 GBP / $10 US
[22:42] <Noodels> Requin - Nope, I'm learning to use sockets in python.
[22:42] <bjames> any takers?
[22:42] <lepit> Noodels I'm assuming the space is meant to be acolon?
[22:42] <_michael> Hello I'm looking to upgrade to Gutsy, but I certainly don't want the full contents of the ubuntu-desktop meta package. Is there a way to upgrade only upgrading packages I currently have installed.
[22:42] <atlfalcons866> how can i see fan speedf
[22:42] <RequinB4> bjames - many people on here would be insulted by that and would do it for free if they had expertise
[22:42] <RequinB4> !wifi | bjames
[22:43] <ubotu> bjames: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:43] <RvGaTe> Im having serious troubles creating a decent PDF document out of an PS file... the PS files are landscape, tho, when im using the generic pdf printer, it ALWAYS gets printed on portrait, and there is no clue on where to change this....
[22:43] <Mark761966> I need gconf-2.0 and libwnck- 1.0
[22:43] <bjames> RequinB4: I don't see why that should be insulting to anyone
[22:43] <meoblast001> is "for conffile in /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf; do" a terminal command?
[22:43] <Noodels> lepit - Well that's how I use telnet, but yours might not be the same, I'm actually using Gnome Mud.
[22:43] <RequinB4> bjames - nor I, but i've seen it lol
[22:43] <meoblast001> i was told to type it in
[22:43] <kitche> RvGaTe: why not use ps2pdf?
[22:43] <Vicman> openoffice works well with pdf in export
[22:43] <bjames> well my problem is that ndiswrapper locks my system
[22:43] <RvGaTe> kitche, becouse i didn't know i could use that? :P
[22:44] <bjames> I've successfully got wireless working with Ubuntu 6.06, but 7.10 locks up when I try to connect to a network
[22:44] <lepit> Noodels: I have to confes I'm using Debian Xfce so I don't have Gnome but I'm trying to telenet
[22:44] <bjames> and now I've rebooted gnome settings daemon has died
[22:44] <meoblast001> is pike_ still here?
[22:44] <anna_> salve
[22:44] <roberto60> ciao rispondimi
[22:44] <anna_> aiuto
[22:44] <Noodels> lepit - Okay, I don't see anyone connecting yet.
[22:44] <ma2> how do uninstall .deb file in terminal ?
[22:44] <lepit> No it's still trying
[22:45] <RvGaTe> kitche, its not in the repo's according to my package manager... is it a package at all?
[22:45] <Noodels> lepit - On ubuntu 'telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 4666' works.
[22:45] <Noodels> lepit - It should be instant... Then again some people I've asked, especially ones that live a long way away haven't had any luck.
[22:45] <lepit> "Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused"
[22:45] <RvGaTe> kitche, got it, already installed :P
[22:45] <lepit> I'm guessing that's not what you want?
[22:45] <RvGaTe> kitche, ill give it a try, thx
[22:46] <disc> In ubuntu, there are default hotkeys like : Alt+tab, Ctrl+Alt+Lef/Right arrow, Alt+-right-click :: How do I turn these off?
[22:46] <RequinB4> ''telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 4666' doesn't work
[22:46] <francesco> Hello, there!
[22:46] <RequinB4> hello francesco
[22:46] <Noodels> lepit - Nope. What continent do you live in? I think location might be a factor involved.
[22:47] <Fezzler> My monitor keeps boot to a setting of 50 mHz but I need it to stay at 96 mHz to look it's best.  Where can I set this in 7.10?
[22:47] <gustavo> hi! can someone give a iptables basic rules? (for security) like anti-dos attack, ping of death... something like it?
[22:47] <lepit> Noodels: UK
[22:47] <RvGaTe> kitche, same result, going from landscape to portrait
[22:47] <sethk> Fezzler, I still use the old reliable dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:47] <Noodels> lepit - That's odd, same.
[22:47] <sethk> Fezzler, there's a newer one that people seem to like better, but the old one works for me and I haven't tried the new one.
[22:47] <RequinB4> Noodels - make sure your firewall allows it
[22:48] <Noodels> lepit - I need to find more out about the internet I guess.
[22:48] <francesco> I have problem reading the News from Evolution Mail. I think that there is a bug in it.
[22:48] <sethk> Fezzler, when you get to monitor configuration, choose the "medium" specification level.  That will allow you to specify sets of verticalxhorizontal@refresh
[22:48] <sp3000> disc: you can change metacity's key from sys -> pref -> win
[22:48] <Noodels> requin - Yep, I opened up ports, I've had other people on here, but I wanted to see how it dealt with more than 2 people or so.
[22:48] <RequinB4> Noodels - most likely you have a firewall on, the connection is refused not lost
[22:48] <sethk> Fezzler, the default monitor configuration level does not show these, so you must increase the configuration specificity to medium.
[22:48] <Fezzler> sethk: isn't there a config file I can simply edit?
[22:48] <Vicman> ping of death ? that exist? i remenber a problem in kernel 2.2 ??? perhaps
[22:49] <disc> sp3000 THANK YOU THAT WORKED!!
[22:49] <Noodels> Requin - I had someone on earlier...
[22:49] <sp3000> I'd have described that as a menu rather than a window though
[22:49] <sethk> Fezzler, there is, but it is arcane and difficult to figure out for some people.  it is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:49] <disc> sp
[22:49] <RaceKondition> does Ubuntu server edition also have a Gnome desktop in the default install?
[22:49] <disc> LOVE YOU!
[22:49] <gerg> hi everyone
[22:50] <Fezzler> sethk: I can do that.  WHat setting am I looking for in xorg.conf?
[22:50] <meoblast001> ppl at #fedora hate me
[22:50] <meoblast001> lol
[22:50] <RequinB4> RaceKondition - you can get it at any time with 'sudo apt-get gnome-desktop'
[22:50] <RequinB4> iirc the sytanx
[22:50] <meoblast001> i remember when i was getting help with my Fedora server
[22:50] <RaceKondition> RequinB4: it will work without any special configuration?
[22:50] <meoblast001> that brings me to another question
[22:50] <Noodels> Feh, I'll try again straight after a reboot some other time, I seem to have most luck then.
[22:51] <lambda> hi
[22:51] <Noodels> Thanks for your time.
[22:51] <rambo3> meoblast001, just ask them how much do you need to pay to redhat to download fedora.
[22:51] <meoblast001> is Ubuntu Server a good choice or is it bloaty.... i know Ubuntu is great for desktops, but im told its very bloaty for servers?
[22:51] <lepit> Noodels Did that someone connect with Mud client?
[22:51] <lambda> i am unable to chroot my 7.10 ubuntu root partition
[22:51] <meoblast001> rambo3: lol
[22:51] <lepit> Or did they get on with telnet?
[22:51] <RvGaTe> Im having serious troubles creating a decent PDF document out of an PS file... the PS files are landscape, tho, when im using the generic pdf printer, it ALWAYS gets printed on portrait, and there is no clue on where to change this....   (ps2pdf generates portrait aswell)
[22:51] <RequinB4> racekondition - server edition doesn't come with gnome
[22:51] <RequinB4> what was the question
[22:51] <lambda> i think this is because bin/bash is not dynamically linked....
[22:52] <lambda> any known issue on that ?
[22:52] <meoblast001> RequinB4: server edition dont have GNOME =O *gasp*
[22:52] <meoblast001> gnome makes file moving and editing easy
[22:52] <meoblast001> and multitasking
[22:52] <meoblast001> which i do on my server
[22:52] <dissasterman573> hello, newbie here... was wondering on something...
[22:52] <lambda> any clue for troubleshoot ?
[22:52] <lepit> I couldn't use gnome because it was too slow on this antique box
[22:53] <lepit> By the time I'd realised Xubuntu existed I'd more or less got used to Debian
[22:53] <RequinB4> dissasterman573 please don't ask to ask a question, logic is confusing as it is :P
[22:54] <dissasterman573> i would like to dual boot for a bit (xp)...  should i creat the pation using windows or the unbuntu installer? also what ver. do u folks reccomend?
[22:54] <Vicman> lepit: if you install xubuntu and the debs that you want for the server?
[22:54] <gnychis> after upgrading to Gutsy, the surround51 plugin no longer works in xine, i can't get surround sound anymore... does anyone know where to start with this problem?
[22:54] <dissasterman573> requinb4: sorry
[22:54] <RequinB4> lonp
[22:54] <RequinB4> lol np
[22:54] <anna_> aiuto
[22:54] <RequinB4> as for version download the latest ISO image and burn to a CD
[22:54] <RequinB4> 7.10
[22:54] <anna_> emule và lento
[22:54] <dissasterman573> ok got it
[22:55] <RequinB4> !partition
[22:55] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[22:55] <RequinB4> I'm not sure about XP but in vista windows can do it for you
[22:55] <anna_> c'è qualcuno che parla italiano
[22:55] <dissasterman573> yeah i think xp can do it
[22:55] <dissasterman573> shld i just creat b4 installing ?
[22:55] <lepit> Vicman: I'm actually ok with Debian most of the support issues are the same and I could install Synaptic and all that if I wanted but I'm getting pretty used to cli apps now so I might just stay with Debian. But I like this channel!
[22:55] <RequinB4> just free up space on your hard drive and the CD should do it automatically
[22:56] <dissasterman573> okie dokie...
[22:56] <dissasterman573> thank u
[22:56] <RequinB4> np
[22:56] <dissasterman573> will be back soon...
[22:56] <anna_> help
[22:56] <RequinB4> anna_ : anything specific or should i grab a life vest :D
[22:57] <RainCT> hi
[22:57] <lambda> !chroot
[22:57] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[22:57] <RequinB4> !it | anna_
[22:57] <ubotu> anna_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[22:57] <mdl-unit> Are there any compelling reasons to install the 64-bit version instead of the 32-bit version?
[22:57] <meoblast001> how do you check to see if the system recognizes a wireless network card?
[22:57] <slimjimflim> hi RainCT
[22:57] <lambda> !schroot
[22:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about schroot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:58] <RainCT> A friend is trying to upgrade feisty->gutsy but he gets «Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Subprocess bzip2 returned an error code (2)». any idea what the problem could be?
[22:58] <anna_> si dimmi
[22:58] <wirechief1> mdl-unit: no not for me
[22:58] <RequinB4> RainCT - what command is he using
[22:58] <RainCT> RequinB4: update-manager
[22:59] <meoblast001> im confused
[22:59] <toresn> i changed my video drivers (using an external screen instead of the one on the laptop)... and mplayer suddenly wont work anymore
[22:59] <toresn> what should i do to make mplayer work again
[22:59] <toresn> ?
[22:59] <meoblast001> i cant tell if a system im working with can detect the wireless card
[22:59] <meoblast001> and if the drivers are installed
[23:00] <RequinB4> RainCT - assume he's using this guide? http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[23:01] <anna_> requinba
[23:01] <mirak> Amaranth: hi
[23:01] <RequinB4> ?
[23:01] <thinh> for remote desktop do someone has to be log in on it for it to work?
[23:01] <anna_> requinb4
[23:01] <RequinB4> thinh - yes
[23:01] <anna_> ci6
[23:02] <RainCT> RequinB4: yep
[23:02] <anna_> anna
[23:02] <anna_> piacere
[23:02] <thinh> does that apply to nxserver and ssh?
[23:02] <Pockets> hi a question: can i set a hotkey to open a terminal?
[23:02] <mirak> Amaranth: hi got a problem about what we talked about. I need sunbird 0.7 but it's not in backports or the gutsy main.
[23:02] <anna_> io non parlo inglese
[23:02] <RequinB4> i'm sorry anna, i really don't understand
[23:02] <sidncoke> hello ppl newbe in need of help with graphics driver
[23:02] <macogw> RequinB4: what about if you're doing that xdmcp or whatever it is thing?
[23:02] <retour> What is the fastest but GUI not txt mode e-mail client for ubuntu? I tried Evolution wich is OK until I've found its made by Novell what kinds stinks for me
[23:02] <macogw> sidncoke: what kind of graphics card
[23:02] <RequinB4> anna_ what language
[23:02] <RoyK> hi. where did initrd-tools go?
[23:02] <RoyK> I can't find it in 7.10
[23:02] <macogw> mirak: grab the tarball from the website and then you can just untar and it and double click on "sunbird" in there and itll run
[23:02] <Fezzler> I have xorg.conf open for editing.  I want to force monitor to 96 mHz at boot up.  It boots to 50 mHz.  When I reset in Administration>Screens & Graphics, it doesn't retain value.
[23:02] <anna_> italiano
[23:03] <thinh> i am trying to ssh into a machine does that machine have to have a user log in?
[23:03] <sidncoke> i945
[23:03] <Pockets> can i set a hotkey to open a terminal?
[23:03] <RequinB4> !it | anna_
[23:03] <anna_> no inglese
[23:03] <macogw> !it | anna_
[23:03] <ubotu> anna_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[23:03] <RequinB4> b
[23:03] <Fezzler> What line in xorg.conf do I edit?
[23:03] <millo> hii
[23:03] <Amaranth> mirak: it's not in hardy either so there is nothing to backport
[23:03] <mirak> macogw: same for lightning ?
[23:03] <macogw> mirak: yep
[23:03] <anna_> dove
[23:03] <millo> anyone knows what is IRQ-20?? when i use rt kernel, it uses 50% of my cpu
[23:03] <thinh> i am not talking about ubuntu remote desktop now
[23:04] <Mark761966> How do I get libwnck18?
[23:04] <mirak> Amaranth: how can it come that windows users get more up to date versions ...
[23:04] <mirak> Amaranth: ;-)
[23:04] <thinh> i am talking about nxserver or ssh
[23:04] <RoyK> anyone_
[23:04] <RoyK> ?
[23:04] <macogw> mirak: though actually sunbird 0.7 doesnt work for me done that way.  could just be my computer, though.  i tried compiling it from source and that didnt work either, but compiling works for the mozilla folks which is why i think it's just my box
[23:04] <Fezzler> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45735/
[23:04] <macogw> mirak: thunderbird is available from getdeb.net
[23:04] <thinh> all the service has not started yet when i am at the login screen?
[23:04] <macogw> mirak: as a deb
[23:05] <mirak> macogw: sunbird or thunderbird ?
[23:05] <anna_> dove ubuntu.it
[23:05] <mirak> I need a 64 bit version also
[23:05] <naeb> hi
[23:05] <macogw> mirak: thunderbird can come from getdeb.net.   32bit ones work fine on 64bit linux
[23:05] <thinh> anyone experience with nxserver or nxclient?
[23:05] <sidncoke> anyone know how to get ubuntu 7.10 to work on Intel 945GM graphics chipset??
[23:06] <macogw> sidncoke: yeah, you just turn on the computer
[23:06] <Vicman> by
[23:06] <HoudiniMan> hey bunters - unrelated question but you guys rock - i need to recommend a spam filter of some sort to a client, anybody have suggestions?
[23:06] <RequinB4> rainCT - make sure all your outstanding updates are done
[23:06] <macogw> mirak: the reason there's different versions is that while mozilla releases the same versions for linux, what's in the ubuntu repositories might be different because those dont get upgraded for new verisons, just for security updates
[23:06] <sidncoke> lol @ macogw
[23:06] <macogw> sidncoke: i'm not joking
[23:06] <sidncoke> it works that way but no GL
[23:06] <systest> how do I permanently disable the avahi IP daemon, short of removing the package?
[23:06] <macogw> sidncoke: it has 3d
[23:06] <sidncoke> it uses the experimental intel driver
[23:06] <macogw> sidncoke: yes.  which has 3d
[23:07] <mirak> macogw: I know, I had a long discution with Amaranth about that ...
[23:07] <sidncoke> not with me
[23:07] <macogw> sidncoke: you could also use the i810 driver.  both have 3d perfectly.
[23:07] <sidncoke> not even chess works in 3d
[23:07] <macogw> sidncoke: chess isnt a 3d game, afaik...
[23:07] <sidncoke> it does have a 3d option
[23:07] <macogw> sidncoke: are you sure your xorg.conf says intel not vesa?
[23:07] <sidncoke> yup
[23:08] <macogw> sidncoke: i dont trust the gui setup thing.  it's lied to me on what driver is in use before
[23:08] <sidncoke> I tried changing it through system settings to 945 and it wouldn't boot
[23:08] <macogw> sidncoke: there isnt a 945 driver
[23:08] <macogw> sidncoke: there's i810 which works for all intel before 965
[23:08] <sidncoke> there is in my distribution
[23:08] <macogw> sidncoke: and there's intel which works for all of them
[23:09] <panfist> hey im using an hp laptop and i was wondering if anyone could help me figure out how to get this to resume from standby and hibernate
[23:09] <macogw> panfist: if you have nvidia or ati, you need to stop using the binary drivers (which means you cant have 3d).  yell at ati and nvidia if you dont like that
[23:10] <mirak> macogw: I suggested that maybe Ubuntu should do a release once in a year of the base OS, and let client applications upgrades enter continually in the repositories
[23:10] <macogw> mirak: there are rolling-release distros.  arch comes to mind
[23:10] <slimjimflim> when i play movies/music my audio is all poppy/scratchy. how can i fix this?
[23:10] <panfist> macogw i dont care if i have 3d or not...how do i check which drivers im using and then maybe switch?
[23:10] <sidncoke> macogw: will figure it out but one more question.....what good applications can I find for a Digital DJ on linux?
[23:10] <macogw> sidncoke: there's also a i740, but ive never used it
[23:10] <macogw> sidncoke: digital dj?  what's that?
[23:11] <macogw> panfist: system > admin > screens & graphics
[23:11] <sidncoke> like traktor dj studio and ableton live on windows and mac
[23:11] <mirak> macogw: I will check that, but well only ubuntu suits me on the philosphy of user friendlyness, package availability etcetera
[23:11] <sfchrisjacob> hey... I use an app at work that is a front end to apt that installs a couple new repositories and allows me to easily install 3rd party apps and codecs and such. Problem is, I am at home and can't remember the name. Anyone have any idea?
[23:11] <macogw> sidncoke: uh....is that an mp3 player?
[23:11] <macogw> sfchrisjacob: synaptic package manager?
[23:11] <sidncoke> sorta mimics a dj setup but on a pc
[23:11] <macogw> sfchrisjacob: or the add/remove?
[23:11] <macogw> sidncoke: oh.  no idea
[23:12] <sfchrisjacob> macogw: nah this one automatically adds 3rd party sources
[23:12] <panfist> macogw which driver should i choose for an old radeon mobility 7000
[23:12] <Pici> sidncoke: You might ask in #ubuntustudio, they probably know.
[23:12] <macogw> sfchrisjacob: are you talking about the system-breaking automatix?
[23:12] <wraund> hi guys, how do i find out my mates graphics card with the lspci command, lspci | grep gfx?
[23:12] <Scunizi> Anyone know of a program like "messenger" from efax.com/j2.com that allows multipage tiff editing ie. inserting text, graphic stamps w/transparancy, shapes etc?
[23:12] <sidncoke> can't find anything worht while on linux for professional audio creation and manipulation
[23:12] <sfchrisjacob> macogw: yes I am
[23:12] <Pici> !automatix | sfchrisjacob
[23:12] <ubotu> sfchrisjacob: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[23:12] <macogw> wraund: just do lspci and read what it says.  you should be able to tell which one is video
[23:12] <sfchrisjacob> macogw: I take it it is frowned upon around here
[23:13] <macogw> sfchrisjacob: yes. very.
[23:13] <mirak> macogw: unfortunely I also need to install the thunderbird binary, because lightning is not compatible with my 64 bit version
[23:13] <sfchrisjacob> heh... ok... thanks all
[23:13] <macogw> mirak: thunderbird binary is on getdeb.net
[23:13] <slimjimflim> sfchrisjacob http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources
[23:13] <mirak> macogw: I didn't knew this site
[23:14] <Mark761966> GAH! It's bloody cold
[23:14] <macogw> panfist: i dont know.  i think that's new enough that you cant use the open source ati driver, but i guess you could try it.  otherwise, vesa should work fine
[23:14] <ghostknife> How can I set shortcut keys for more than one desktop. The GUI interface in "System->Preferences" only allow for 2 desktops
[23:15] <mirak> macogw: what is the interest of this website in fact ?
[23:15] <slimjimflim> sfchrisjacob just do it manually
[23:15] <macogw> mirak: it provides packages for ubuntu for programs not found in ubuntu's repos or updated versions of low-priority programs
[23:15] <Shao`> Hm, maybe someone here knows.. I'm running 7.10 and I have a HP PSC 1110 scanner/printer, when trying to scan with xsane, it just locks up, any ideas? I've tried setting cupsd in aa-complain as suggested in a bugzilla
[23:15] <sfchrisjacob> sfchrisjacob: point taken... thanks!!!
[23:16] <zejosh> H
[23:16] <sidncoke> Any good pointers to resources for audio production on ubuntu?
[23:16] <mirak> macogw: ok that's what I am looking for then
[23:16] <thinh> anyone know if you have to be logged in for nxserver to work or openssh?
[23:16] <macogw> sfchrisjacob: system > admin > software sources is an easy way to add repos
[23:16] <macogw> thinh: not for openssh
[23:16] <mirak> macogw: maybe someday it will be a ubuntu official unofficial repository ^^
[23:17] <thinh> it seems like when i logged out at the login screen is the ssh running?
[23:17] <macogw> sidncoke: try #ubuntustudio they're audio people
[23:17] <macogw> thinh: it starts running at boot, i think
[23:17] <slimjimflim> does anyone have any experience w/ postfix/dovecot?
[23:17] <sidncoke> thanx macogw
[23:17] <Arrick> hey all, whats the command to reconfigure x in the 6.01 server?
[23:17] <macogw> thinh: you can stop it with "sudo /etc/init.d/sshd stop"
[23:17] <macogw> Arrick: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[23:18] <abcde_> I set Totem's output to "X Window System (No XV)" but the video doesn't stay in the window.  If for example, I rotate the cube, the video stays where it would be if I wasn't rotating.  Any ideas?
[23:18] <macogw> Arrick: there's no 6.01, by the way
[23:18] <thinh> but i am trying to ssh into a machine that is in login screen but i doenst even respond it seems like it not even there
[23:18] <thinh> i get a connection timeout after
[23:18] <Arrick> the version 6.xx then macd
[23:18] <macogw> thinh: er....ok this might sound dumb, but do you have openssh-server on YOUR box or the one you're trying to reach?
[23:18] <Arrick> thanks though
[23:18] <thinh> yeah
[23:18]  * Pelo just killed a 30 uptime for no good reason, at least he managed to recover from his cockup
[23:18] <slimjimflim> thinh, can you get a shell via 'ctr alt f2' or any other 'f' keys?
[23:18] <thinh> i tried it before i left
[23:19] <macogw> Arrick: either 6.06 (2006, 6th month) or 6.10 (2006, 10th month)
[23:19] <thinh> yeah
[23:19] <Arrick> 6.06
[23:19] <macogw> thinh: which one?
[23:19] <Arrick> thats it
[23:19] <thinh> openssh -server openssh-client
[23:19] <macogw> thinh: no, which box?
[23:19] <panfist> macogw i chose vesa from the list and clicked "test" and i got a black screen for a while then back to normal and the screens and graphics screen is closed
[23:19] <macogw> thinh: if it's on the computer you're ssh-ing *from* that's no good
[23:20] <slimjimflim> ya
[23:20] <macogw> panfist: O_o vesa is supposed to work for everything
[23:20] <thinh> it on the machine i am trying to ssh into
[23:20] <macogw> thinh: ok
[23:20] <macogw> thinh: just checking.  i could really easily see someone doing it backwards and being confused
[23:20] <ADemiG0D> i'm starting fresh on my laptop, i want to dual boot windows and ubuntu
[23:20] <ADemiG0D> how should i setup the partitions?
[23:20] <slimjimflim> thinh, can you get a shell via 'ctr alt f2' or any other 'f' keys?
[23:20] <thinh> i have port forwarding on the router and i setup firestarter to allow port 22
[23:20] <macogw> ADemiG0D: do partitions before you install anything. then install windows. then install ubuntu
[23:20] <thinh> slim yeah
[23:20] <Arrick> ok, I forgot macogw, lol, I dont have x on this, how do I get the whole screen to show in a VM?
[23:20] <Pelo> ADemiG0D, what ever you want for windows,   for ubuntu 5-10 gig for / , 2xram for swap  the rest for /home ,
[23:21] <slimjimflim> thinh, can you `ssh localhost`?
[23:21] <tafsen> After I return from suspend-to-ram everything is messed up with weird colours and stripes, and I have to restart X. How can I fix this?
[23:21] <thinh> yeah
[23:21] <zejosh> penis
[23:21] <ADemiG0D> what formats?
[23:21] <Pelo> ADemiG0D,  make at least two partitions to begin with then install windows , install ubuntu last
[23:21] <macogw> Arrick: you can't reconfigure X without having X installed
[23:21] <thinh> the weird thing is i can ssh into my machine when i am on the same lan no problem
[23:21] <Pelo> ADemiG0D, ntfs for windows,   / and /home ext3, and swap will have to be linux-swap
[23:21] <thinh> it when i go outside my lan i cant ssh to it
[23:21] <Pockets> a question: how to set a hotkey to open a terminal?
[23:21] <Pelo> ADemiG0D, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[23:21] <Arrick> yeah I realize that macogw thats why I lol'd, I cant get the whole screen on the termanl login to show in a vm
[23:22] <slimjimflim> thinh, when you're outside of your lan, are you using the ip or the domain name (if that applies)
[23:22] <Pelo> Pockets,  gnome terminal or consol ?
[23:22] <ADemiG0D> pelo, i need / and /home ext3?
[23:22] <Pelo> ADemiG0D, don,t need but prefered by ubuntu
[23:22] <thinh> i have setup a dyndns for it
[23:22] <macogw> ADemiG0D: i suggest making a small partition for windows' system files (NTFS formatted), a small one for ubuntu system files (that's called / and should be ext3 formatted), and then a large one for your files (FAT32 if you have Vista or ext3 with fs-driver.org's driver for windows), then like 1GB of swap
[23:22] <Pockets> hmm the one that is in aplications->accesories
[23:22] <slimjimflim> thinh, fun stuff.  try doing it with the ip
[23:22] <Pockets> dont know if its gnome or console
[23:22] <Pelo> Pockets,  menu > system > prefs, > keyboard shortcuts,  just put in gnome-terminal
[23:22] <macogw> Pockets: it's gnome-terminal
[23:22] <thinh> i get a respond when i set respond to ping on my router for security reason i turn it off for now
[23:22] <gerg> after I get to the ubuntu login screen (which displays correctly),  my display shrinks and becomes unusable.  is there anyway to troubleshoot this?
[23:22] <zejosh> penis and pie.
[23:22] <zejosh> penis and vagina
[23:23] <Pockets> thanks
[23:23] <macogw> !ops | zejosh is being vulgar
[23:23] <magnetron> !ohmy | zejosh
[23:23] <ubotu> zejosh is being vulgar: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Pelo!
[23:23] <ubotu> zejosh: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[23:23] <ADemiG0D> i want to split my HDD in half for ubuntu and windows ( i have external drives partitioned to handle the extra needed space
[23:23] <ADemiG0D> so i need ntfs for windows, /, /home ext 3 and swap-linux
[23:23] <Scunizi> I got my Graphire4 working after installing the wacom-tools and associated files.  However I'm using the latest ver. of Gimp from repos of Ubuntu 7.10. I don't see anywhere to change the cursor orientation ie, screen, window, desktop like there was in Ubuntu 6.06.  Can anyone look at my xorg and see if I'm missing something that's needed for Gimp to allow changes? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45736/
[23:23] <thinh> the thing is it dynamically so it change all the time that why i have setup a dynamic dns on the router
[23:23] <ADemiG0D> how muck for / and /home ext3?
[23:23] <slimjimflim> thinh, don't ping, just ssh to your router's ip.  if port forwarding is configured right
[23:24] <macogw> ADemiG0D: if you make /home be ext3 and use fs-driver.org's driver windows xp can access it. if you have vista, use fat32 for /home
[23:24] <Pelo> ADemiG0D, use the ubuntu live cd to split your hdd in two , then isntal windows on the first partiton,
[23:24] <slimjimflim> thinh, log into the router and check the ip if you have to
[23:24] <Pelo> ADemiG0D, ntfs for windows,   / and /home ext3, and swap will have to be linux-swap
[23:24] <Pelo> ADemiG0D, what ever you want for windows,   for ubuntu 5-10 gig for / , 2xram for swap  the rest for /home ,
[23:24] <Amaranth> ADemiG0D: / should be about 8G, /home is however much you want
[23:24] <macogw> ADemiG0D: if you intend to install a lot of stuff, 10GB for ubuntu is what i usually do
[23:24] <RootyRootRootWoo> Hi, how do I turn off the smashing wine glass sound i get whenever i eject a cd/dvd?
[23:24] <BlueRider> hey all, i have a question: is there an equivalent in Linux for the DOS command 'mem"?
[23:24] <Pici> Scunizi: Are you using XGL?
[23:24] <thinh> slim tried that already and it doesnt respond to it
[23:24] <Pici> BlueRider: free -m
[23:24] <ejandi> how to add packages in a folder to synaptic package manager
[23:24] <Scunizi> Pici, compiz-fusion
[23:24] <BlueRider> ok 10x
[23:24] <macogw> ejandi: what?
[23:24] <ADemiG0D> thanks
[23:24] <Amaranth> ejandi: you can't, just double click them
[23:24] <gerg> I can run ubuntu in 640x480, but any 800x600 display gives the same result
[23:24] <Pelo> ejandi,  you don,t need to , it it is a deb just dlb click on it to install
[23:25] <Pici> Scunizi: Yes, are you using XGL? Do you have an ATI video card?
[23:25] <macogw> Scunizi: but are you using xgl or aiglx?
[23:25] <mirak> macogw: I couldn't find a thunderbird binary
[23:25] <thinh> the weird thing is when i am right in front of it i have a friend that checks it it works, but when i go to my friends place to check it it doenst work
[23:25] <thinh> it seems like the computer have to be active for the ssh to work
[23:25] <Pelo> ejandi, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[23:25] <Scunizi> Pici, macogw nvidia 6600gt,  how can I referance if it's xgl or aiglx?
[23:25] <polm> I'm unable to remove "tftpd-hpa" from my system. Apt-get remove, and dpkg -P both fail
[23:25] <macogw> Scunizi: aiglx
[23:25] <polm> I've tried reinstall (apt-get install --reinstall) but it fails as well.
[23:26] <slimjimflim> thinh, maybe it's going into power saving mode?
[23:26] <polm> Can someone help me out?
[23:26] <macogw> Scunizi: xgl is a hack because ati has crap drivers
[23:26] <macogw> mirak: oh hey you're right.  hold on.  it must be in a repo then.  lemme find it
[23:26] <tafsen> After I return from suspend-to-ram everything is messed up with weird colours and stripes, and I have to restart X. How can I fix this?
[23:26] <Pelo> polm, how did you instal it ?
[23:26] <Pici> Scunizi: Okay, nevermind then, I know theres a bug with XGL and Wacom.
[23:26] <thinh> i dont know i set to never on sleep
[23:26] <polm> Pelo : apt-get install tftpd-hpa
[23:26] <macogw> mirak: i just pm'd you. did you get it?
[23:26] <thinh> how do i change that i change my bios and i set screen to never but it still doing it
[23:26] <Pelo> polm,  check in synaptic  you can remove it from there if there is an issue synaptic will tell you about it
[23:26] <slimjimflim> thinh, is your local ip static?
[23:27] <toresn> i having trouble sending mail... well, i can deliver mail, but the from name in the index is messed up... my setup is as following:  mutt, fetchmail, msmtp
[23:27] <Scunizi> macogw, Pici, I was actually impressed with the current version of wacom-tools.  It picked up the scroll wheel and buttons on the tablet that the dapper version did't.
[23:27] <thinh> this is a public isp
[23:27] <Pelo> wraund, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[23:27] <ADemiG0D> what application can i use to partition and format free space on my external
[23:27] <wraund> Pelo: oh ok
[23:27] <wraund> Pelo: i see you dealth with zejosh
[23:27] <bruenig> ADemiG0D, fdisk
[23:27] <toresn> it's displayed like '=?utf-8?Q?Tore=20Sn=C3=B8ve=20'   instead of 'Tore Snove'
[23:27] <macogw> ADemiG0D: gparte
[23:27] <Pelo> wraund, I did
[23:27] <macogw> ADemiG0D: GParted
[23:27] <wraund> Pelo: he is sorta my mate being stupid, how long does that ban last?
[23:28] <ADemiG0D> thanks
[23:28] <macogw> ADemiG0D: sorry, hit <enter> too soon :P
[23:28] <panfist> macogw when i go to sys > admin > restricted drivers manager, it says i don't have any running...so arent i already using the open source drivers?
[23:28] <Scunizi> macogw, Pici, is there actaully a way to tune the tablet outside of the configuration in Gimp (that doesn't work).?
[23:28] <ejandi> how to i add my softwares in a folder to the list of synaptic package list
[23:28] <wraund> i kno
[23:28] <Pelo> wraund, until I feel like letting him back in , but I have a bad memory , I might leave tonight and forget to unban him
[23:28] <wraund> sorry wring chan
[23:28] <ghostknife> Question: When I press Alt+Tab to switch windows, the screen goes a bit darker. How can I disable this?
[23:28] <polm> Pelo: It tells me the package is in a very bad/inconsistent state and to reinstall first.
[23:28] <bruenig> ejandi, have you setup a local repository?
[23:28] <toresn> i having trouble sending mail... well, i can deliver mail, but the from name in the index is messed up... my setup is as following:  mutt, fetchmail, msmtp
[23:28] <toresn> it's displayed like '=?utf-8?Q?Tore=20Sn=C3=B8ve=20'   instead of 'Tore Snove'
[23:28] <polm> Pelo: However, reinstall fails.
[23:28] <ADemiG0D> for burning ubuntu does it have to be on dvd or is it small enough for a cd?
[23:28] <slimjimflim> thinh, on your lan, all the computer(s) behind your router, the different boxes have separate, private ips.  the router has a public one.  make sure the computer in question has a STATIC LOCAL ip.  also make sure your router is configured for port forwarding for ssh
[23:28] <macogw> ejandi: if you have a deb and you just install it with gdebi (by double clicking on the deb), it'll show up in synaptic after it's installed so you can use synaptic to uninstall it
[23:29] <wraund> Pelo: can we twist the rules slightly, ive warned him big time, and if he does it again feel free to permaban him
[23:29] <thinh> yeah
[23:29] <Pelo> polm,  hold on, there is a command for repairing pacakges but I forget what it is , hold on let me check
[23:29] <thinh> i have that setup right now
[23:29] <Pelo> wraund, you want to be next ?
[23:29] <ADemiG0D> banning pelo wouldnt be cool, he have been very helpful
[23:29] <tafsen> After I return from suspend-to-ram everything is messed up with weird colours and stripes, and I have to restart X. How can I fix this?
[23:29] <thinh> i dont have a static on my server but it always on so it never lose it ip
[23:29] <ejandi> hello macogw, i havent installed them yet i formated my system and internet conncetion here is very slow
[23:29] <slimjimflim> well, if u can get in from the lan, but not publicly, either your public ip is getting reset or the port forwarding is broken
[23:30] <bruenig> hmm, Pelo should ban himself
[23:30] <macogw> ejandi: double clicking them will install them
[23:30] <panfist> macogw in xorg.conf i'm using the "radeon" driver
[23:30] <thinh> so it always have the same on
[23:30] <ejandi> so i just wanted to say the time of downloading from the net since
[23:30] <macogw> polm: sudo apt-get install -f
[23:30] <thinh> slim did you get my pm
[23:30] <slimjimflim> thinh, no
[23:30] <ejandi> macogw: wat about the depencies attached
[23:30] <slimjimflim> thinh, u say you can ping it remotely
[23:30] <Tm_T> Pelo: hi
[23:30] <slimjimflim> ?
[23:31] <macogw> ADemiG0D: ubuntu is a CD iso.  not everyone has DVD drives.  that'd be cruel to do.
[23:31] <thinh> slim: not now since i turn the ping on router off
[23:31] <macogw> ejandi: it'll get the dependencies
[23:31] <gerg> hi.   I'm trying to configure an unknown lcd display.  is there any easy ways to do this?
[23:31] <macogw> ejandi: for those you'll have to wait for the internet though
[23:31] <thinh> but when it is turn on i can ping it
[23:31] <macogw> ejandi: unless you have them all in the folder
[23:31] <polm> macogw: "subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1"
[23:31] <ejandi> i have all the depencies in a folder too
[23:31] <macogw> ejandi: is that the case? you have them and all the dependencies in the directory?
[23:31] <bruenig> polm, which package?
[23:31] <Pelo> polm,  I think it  sudo apt-get install -f packagename
[23:31] <macogw> polm: O_o ive never seen that before
[23:32] <gerg> I can autodetect the video card, but the monitor won't autodetect
[23:32] <polm> bruenig: tftpd-hpa
[23:32] <macogw> ejandi: open a terminal and cd to the directory
[23:32] <nnoeonn> Hiya guys ^
[23:32] <nnoeonn> ^^
[23:32] <slimjimflim> thinh, i'd turn on ping, check that, and if that doesn't help, reset the router and reconfigure port forwarding
[23:32] <polm> Pelo: tried...failed
[23:32] <macogw> ejandi: then do "sudo dpkg -i *"
[23:32] <RequinB4> hello nnoeonn
[23:32] <bruenig> polm, do "dpkg -L tftpd-hpa | grep init"
[23:32] <navetz> how do i get a compiz button to enable compiz
[23:32] <Pelo> polm,  search the forum for repair broken packages or jsut plain broken pacakge
[23:32] <slimjimflim> thinh, that's about all i can figure.  it doesn't look like a problem on the actual box though
[23:32] <ejandi> macogw: so if i have all the depencies in a folder are u saying it will pick them on its on wihout the internet
[23:33] <polm> bruenig: "/etc/init.d" and "/etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa"
[23:33] <polm> Pelo: searching now...
[23:33] <thinh> yeah so weird been struggling with it some time now
[23:33] <gerg> i'm in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:33] <bruenig> polm, yes this is a known problem with daemons or at least I have filed a bug report, they don't seem to get to it just do: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa ; sudo apt-get remove tftpd-hpa
[23:33] <slimjimflim> thinh, when was the last time you reset the routeR?
[23:33] <thinh> i have no problem connection when i on the lan
[23:33] <thinh> slim been awhile now
[23:34] <thinh> i uppgrade the firmware not to long ago dont know if that reset the router
[23:34] <gerg> I can reset everything to 640x480 in here
[23:34] <slimjimflim> also check that your router's firewall isn't blocking the port if you have a firewall on the router
[23:34] <navetz> how do i enable compiz
[23:34] <polm> bruenig: that worked. Thanks!
[23:34] <luiz> gerg, System -> Admin -> Screens and Graphics dont resolv this?
[23:34] <thinh> hm
[23:34] <navetz> i dont have a compiz manage the way i use to have a beryl manager
[23:34] <Pierr1> Bad install - cannot revert back to NTFS
[23:34] <Dr_willis> !compiz | navetz
[23:34] <ubotu> navetz: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[23:34] <bruenig> I should search for that bug and you can vote for it or however that works
[23:34] <el> is there a gui vpn client in ubuntu?
[23:34] <polm> bruenig: works for me.
[23:34] <thinh> slim port forwarding not enought on the router?
[23:35] <Pierr1> HELP! bad install and can't revert back to NTFS
[23:35] <slimjimflim> thinh, it depends on the router
[23:35] <gerg> luiz, no.  attempting to change the resolution in x then messes up the screen.  I don't know the refresh rate for this display
[23:35] <thinh> i have an option to turn off the firewall that i have , dont have anything else for the router
[23:35] <thinh> it a netgear
[23:35] <macogw> ejandi: yeah
[23:35] <Pierr1> My windows is gone! bad install of Ubuntu and can't revert back to NTFS
[23:35] <slimjimflim> netgear sucks
[23:35] <macogw> ejandi: it should install everything in that directory in the proper order
[23:35] <thinh> nat filter ?
[23:35] <Pierr1> Tried SPB  - nothing works
[23:36] <gerg> I've attempted to select "LCD DISPLAY 800x600", but then the display messes up
[23:36] <macogw> bruenig: launchpad lacks bug voting
[23:36] <slimjimflim> turn off the firewall, and if you have to use one on the computer alone
[23:36] <bruenig> polm, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debhelper/+bug/119454
[23:36] <bruenig> macogw, oh well can at least leave a comment or something
[23:36] <gra> alright
[23:36] <thinh> i have an option of nat filter open or secured, does that help anything?
[23:36] <slimjimflim> *and if you have to, use one on the computer, alone
[23:36] <Pelo> Pierr1, what doyou mean by revert back to ntfs ? if you installed ubuntu and messed up your windows install in the process ( I 'm very sorry for you btw) , it is gone and the data is gone as well  , y ou can'T revert ,you'llhave to install again
[23:37] <slimjimflim> nat is network address translation or 'port forwarding'
[23:37] <Pierr1> Pelo
[23:37] <slimjimflim> so you should be able to forward ports though that interface
[23:37]  * Pelo listens
[23:37] <Pierr1> It won't let me install Windows -says drive is non-existant reifs?
[23:37] <thinh> yeah the option are secured or open, does that change anything that what i mean
[23:37] <macogw> Pierr1: windows has a partitioner / formatter as part of its installation
[23:38] <slimjimflim> thinh, for testing, leave it open.  close it after you have functionality
[23:38] <xristian> is there a video editor on ubuntu ? tell names
[23:38] <thinh> okey thanks
[23:38] <Pelo> Pierr1, use the live cd to remove all partitons from the hdd and then try again with windows
[23:38] <macogw> xristian: kino
[23:38] <bruenig> !info avidemux
[23:38] <ubotu> avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.3.0-0.0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 3270 kB, installed size 8256 kB
[23:38] <Pierr1> this is a sony vaio - it is preinstalled as part of the hard drive
[23:38] <jund13> hey guys how do i open idx file in ubuntu
[23:38] <Pierr1> I can run it but it won't let me install
[23:38] <Pelo> Pierr1,  and you don'T have a cd ?
[23:38] <xristian> can i separate audio from video at kino ?
[23:38] <bruenig> jund13, what is it?
[23:39] <thinh> slim did you try ssh into my box?
[23:39] <macogw> Pierr1: you actually were going to trust a "restore partition" to begin with?
[23:39] <jund13> idx file
[23:39] <Pierr1> I think it is because when installed Ubuntu it formatted my drive to a Linux base file system
[23:39] <Pierr1> No cd
[23:39] <Pelo> jund13,  what is an idx file for ?
[23:39] <ipx_laptop> Subtitles? :D
[23:39] <jund13> sub for movie
[23:39] <gerg> my display is only using a portion of the screen,  is there a way to adjust the display so it fills up the entire screen?
[23:39] <macogw> Pierr1: if you got rid of the restore partition, you cant restore from it
[23:39] <slimjimflim> thinh, no, pm me the ip
[23:39] <Pelo> Pierr1,  you should have repartitonned to make room for ubuntu,  you basicaly wrote over your windows installation
[23:39] <macogw> Pierr1: you should have gotten a cd with the computer for reinstalling windows.
[23:39] <gerg> 640x480 is only displaying on a 800x600 screen
[23:40] <polm> bruenig: cool. (#147520)
[23:40] <Pierr1> I have the restore - it is a seperate partitition and it works but can't install on the other partition where Ubuntu formatted
[23:40] <Pelo> Pierr1,  boot back the live cd , remove the ubuntu partitions, and then perform the instal again from your revoery partition on the hdd
[23:40] <thinh> maybe just the connection i am on right now
[23:40] <gerg> nevermind
[23:40] <gerg> got it
[23:40] <slimjimflim> ?
[23:41] <thinh> slim you got my pm?
[23:41] <slimjimflim> can't send a pm?
[23:41] <slimjimflim> no
[23:41] <Pierr1> what is the live cd?
[23:41] <jund13> anyone know how too open idx file
[23:41] <Pelo> Pierr1,  the cd you used to install ubuntu with
[23:41] <thinh> you have to be reg user for pm to work/
[23:41] <Pelo> jund13,  what are idx files used for ? and by originaly ?
[23:41] <Pelo> slimjimflim,  don't pm ppl in this channel , it is impolite
[23:42] <bruenig> !pm
[23:42] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[23:42] <slimjimflim> sry pele
[23:42] <jund13> well i got this jap movie but it has idx subs
[23:42] <slimjimflim> just trying to keep his ip secret
[23:42] <bruenig> pelo is laying to law down
[23:42]  * Pelo points out that pele is a soccer god,  Pelo is jsut an op
[23:42] <bruenig> the*
[23:42] <RequinB4> same difference
[23:42] <Pierr1> Thanks Pelo - I'll try that and get back to you
[23:42] <slimjimflim> pelo is har
[23:42] <slimjimflim> hair
[23:43] <bruenig> uh oh
[23:43] <slimjimflim> en espanol
[23:43] <Pelo> slimjimflim, I'm already aware of that
[23:43] <bruenig> another pelo hair discussion
[23:43] <thinh> how u pm again hasnt been on irc for some time now
[23:43] <slimjimflim> i was just making everyone else aware too
[23:43] <thinh> is it /msg username?
[23:43] <bruenig> thinh, /msg username message
[23:43] <Pierr1> Pelo
[23:43] <slimjimflim> thinh, don't do it
[23:44] <Pelo> Pierr1, yes ?
[23:44] <slimjimflim> you'll get in trouble
[23:44] <thinh> oh
[23:44] <slimjimflim> lol
[23:44] <RequinB4> Another question about IRC - how do you emote
[23:44] <RequinB4> * wins
[23:44] <Arinomi> ./me
[23:44] <slimjimflim> thinh do you have access to email?
[23:44] <Pelo> RequinB4, /me actions
[23:44]  * bruenig RequinB4 what do you mean
[23:44] <Pierr1> I'm using the install to delete my partitiion?
[23:44] <thinh> yeah
[23:44]  * RequinB4 tests
[23:44] <RequinB4> kk thx
[23:44] <bruenig> you guys are no fun
[23:44] <slimjimflim> email it to me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:44] <Pelo> Pierr1,  yes
[23:44]  * Arinomi thinks RequinB4 got it right ;)
[23:45] <Pierr1> I delete than I can't go anywhere and have to quit install and the delete gets undone
[23:45] <swhalen> !pidgin
[23:45] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It is available in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), but not previous versions. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[23:45] <macogw> Pierr1: dont use the installer part of the live cd
[23:45] <macogw> Pierr1: use gparted in system > administration > gnome partition manager
[23:45] <Pelo> Pierr1,  use  the partition managetr in menu > ystem> admin > gnome partiton editor, not the one in the installer
[23:46] <thinh> okey i used hotmail so it should be instant
[23:46] <Pierr1> will try - thanks
[23:47] <thinh> check it out
[23:47] <thinh> slim how long are you gonna be on?
[23:47] <ilgbbb> im trying to slow fans down with pwmconfig, but i get an error message
[23:47] <hexd> how do you get vncserver to show the desktop, not just a terminal?
[23:47] <hexd> !vncserver
[23:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vncserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:47] <slimjimflim> thinh that's not an ip, that's a domain
[23:47] <slimjimflim> ips look like <IP_ADDRESS> etc
[23:48] <Pelo> ilgbbb, read the guide here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[23:48] <slimjimflim> type ifconfig and send me the output
[23:48] <thinh> yeah but it tied to a ip address
[23:48] <ilgbbb> Failed to set pwmhwmon0/device/pwm1 to full speed
[23:48] <ilgbbb> Something's wrong, check your fans!
[23:48] <RequinB4> hexd what are you trying to do
[23:48] <thinh> that should give you the samething
[23:48] <Pierr1> That worked - I'll try and restore - cross your fingers
[23:48] <thinh> try to ping that and it will give the translation of what that is
[23:48] <Pierr1> thank you to both PELO and MACOGW
[23:48] <Pelo> ilgbbb, you also need to install  libsensor first
[23:48] <hexd> RequinB4, show my gnome desktop, so ill have access to menus from remote
[23:48] <Arinomi> How can I enter 'su' in terminal without having to type 'sudo su' instead of just 'su'?
[23:49] <RequinB4> hexd - remotely?
[23:49] <hexd> yeah
[23:49] <ilgbbb> Pelo, ill check those out
[23:49] <Pelo> Arinomi, just type sudo , same thing
[23:49] <RequinB4> hexd - ok i'll go step by step
[23:49] <Pici> Arinomi: sudo -i gives you the same thing as su
[23:49] <hexd> RequinB4, ok thanks
[23:49] <macogw> Arinomi: you could alias "su" to "sudo su -"
[23:49] <RequinB4> 1) go to system - preferences - remote desktop
[23:49] <Pelo> ilgbbb, first you need to setup the sensor the the test them out , then you can setup the fancontrol basicaly all the setps are laid out
[23:49] <macogw> Pici: not exactly
[23:49] <RequinB4> check any boxes you want, leave "ask me" on the bottom unchecked
[23:49] <slimjimflim> thinh, actually open a browser and type <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:50] <macogw> Pici: sudo -s is "su" sudo -i is "su -"
[23:50] <RequinB4> (this is on the host comp)
[23:50] <RequinB4> the server
[23:50] <Pici> macogw: I know, most people don't know the difference between them though.
[23:50] <RequinB4> oh and set a password
[23:50] <Pici> macogw: or even realize that there is a difference.
[23:50] <slimjimflim> i can ping that address, but not the ip associated w/ it.  therefore, it's probably a problem w/ dyndns.com
[23:50] <slimjimflim> thinh ^^
[23:50] <hexd> RequinB4,oh i see it , ill try that
[23:51] <macogw> Pici: i note the difference as "awwww my bash aliases don't work anymore.  and hey! i'm suddenly in root's ~ instead of where i was!" :P
[23:51]  * Pelo thinks RequinB4  is gunnuing for his job
[23:51] <thinh> i send you another email
[23:51] <thinh> that sould have it
[23:51] <RequinB4> hexd - after that, ensure you have a clear connection from the outside to port 5900 on your comp
[23:51] <thinh> i can ping it for some reason
[23:51] <slimjimflim> the past tense of send is sent
[23:51] <RequinB4> then use your favorite vnc viewer on the remote comp
[23:51] <hexd> RequinB4,  ok thank you
[23:51]  * RequinB4 thinks pelo shouldn't worry :P
[23:52] <slimjimflim> thinh, ok, that email didn't have anything in it at all
[23:52] <slimjimflim> go to your browser, type <IP_ADDRESS> and tell me what happens
[23:53] <thinh> bring me up my router login screen
[23:53] <allenc> Hello.  I have a windows xp pro box that I have a few folders I would like to share with my ubuntu box.  Is there a "quick & easy" way to do that?
[23:54] <Pelo> allenc,  using samba
[23:54] <slimjimflim> thinh, do you have a 'status' button
[23:54] <zakirs> what do u mean
[23:54] <zakirs> hi all
[23:54] <thinh> yeah but this it not where my box resides
[23:54] <Pelo> !hi | zakirs
[23:54] <ubotu> zakirs: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[23:54] <allenc> Pelo: Can you explain further please?
[23:54] <thinh> i am at a friends place right now
[23:54] <_6StringKng_> I'm having a problem logging into the forums to download a .deb for pidgin, I can login but when I go to the thread to download this file it says im not, and even when I do it logs back out
[23:54] <slimjimflim> ok, well then i can't even help you
[23:54] <thinh> slim are you gonna be on long?
[23:55] <PriceChild> _6StringKng_, come to #ubuntuforums please
[23:55] <_6StringKng_> ah, k
[23:55] <slimjimflim> you have to have physical access to do this
[23:55] <thinh> i can be home in 5-10 min
[23:55] <slimjimflim> :\
[23:55] <slimjimflim> run forest, run
[23:55] <thinh> okey
[23:55] <ilgbbb> sensors command gives me fan speeds and other info, i guess i should now use pwmconfig
[23:55] <zakirs> hi i have sound problems with ubuntu on my compaq laptop can any body help please
[23:56] <slimjimflim> aren't i a kind, patient person?
[23:56] <Pelo> allenc,  not much , in order to communicate with a windows computer you need to install and config samba,  samba will se your windows box just like the network thingy in windows,  it will let you mount remote dir on your ubuntu box that are shared from your windows box ,  smb is the command to start ,  you cna install it from synaptic if it is not already installed
[23:56] <Pelo> !sound | zakirs  start here
[23:56] <ubotu> zakirs  start here: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:56] <RequinB4> ilgbbb what sound card
[23:56] <RequinB4> sorry, zakirs what sound card
[23:56] <zakirs> i tried sound trouble shooting
[23:56] <zakirs> but no use
[23:57]  * Pelo thinks is is unseemly for slimjimflim  to be fishing for compliments like that, but he's too much fo a gentlemen t mention it
[23:57] <zakirs> intel hda
[23:57] <slimjimflim> lol
[23:57] <RequinB4> zakirs - type 'lspci'
[23:57] <zakirs> recently even tried mint but same prob
[23:57] <RequinB4> and tell me what hte audio line says
[23:57] <Pelo> afk
[23:57] <hockeyfan5000> Dumb questions, are there any retail games that will install and play on linux without installing Wine or some third party application that are like 3rd party shooters?
[23:57] <zakirs> sry but iam in windows
[23:57] <zakirs> iam extremely sry
[23:58] <Seq> Has anybody ever set up a TUN device to put a VM (I'm using Virtualbox) directly on the network?
[23:58] <RoyKa> does anyone know where I can find the ubuntu specific patches?
[23:58] <RoyKa> kernel ones
[23:58] <matttis> hockeyfan5000: yeah, there are some
[23:58] <macogw> hockeyfan5000: quake and doom
[23:58] <Pelo> hockeyfan5000, you need to read the box and get one that install on linux ,  I think quacke and wolfenstein are compatible but I am not much of a gamer
[23:58] <allenc> Pelo: ok, will give it a shot, thanks
[23:58] <RequinB4> zakirs - kind of hard to fix an ubuntu problem in windows, from my experience :P
[23:58] <slimjimflim> hockeyfan5000, doubit it w/o wine, but i've gotten counterstrike to run w/ wine
[23:58] <zakirs> hhee :)
[23:58] <RoyKa> I need 2.6.23, but using a vanilla one, I don't get the rt2x00 driver
[23:58] <zakirs> ya i tried trouble shooting  for 1 month
[23:58] <slimjimflim> there's also a lot of open source games or free games
[23:58] <zakirs> but finally i gave up
[23:58] <slimjimflim> google something like that
[23:58] <macogw> hockeyfan5000: http://www.linuxgames.com/
[23:58] <hockeyfan5000> I basically wanted to see how well it can handle a game compared to Windows
[23:59] <slimjimflim> there ya go
[23:59] <Pelo> RoyKa,  available packages are listed in synaptic
[23:59] <xenthro> unreal tournament is linux native :) it just came out
[23:59] <slimjimflim> no shizz
[23:59] <RequinB4> unreal tourny
[23:59] <RequinB4> http://techgage.com/article/top_10_free_linux_games
[23:59] <HHRy> Heya everyone
[23:59] <Pelo> !kernel | RoyKa
[23:59] <ubotu> RoyKa: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[23:59] <macogw> hockeyfan5000: http://www.amazon.com/Loki-Entertainment-Software-Quake-Arena/dp/B000046Q56/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1195948744&sr=8-1
[23:59] <zakirs> thx guys i will return after booting into ubuntu
[23:59] <RequinB4> battle for wesnoth pwns if you like strategy
[23:59] <slimjimflim> xenthro, i'm gonna have to dl that
[23:59] <hockeyfan5000> thanks xentho, that is what I was looking for something lke that
[23:59] <zakirs> REquin
[23:59] <hockeyfan5000> thanks for all your help
[23:59] <hockeyfan5000> everyone
[23:59] <RequinB4> zakirs - k
[23:59] <patrux> list


[03:02] <veebers> wallyworld: to confirm, if we have a unit status of Blocked and a container status of Blocked, which wins? Show the unit blocked message of container?
[03:04] <wallyworld> veebers: if the container itself reports as blocked, we need to show that as that will surface the more relevant error. consider the gitlab charm case. gitlab will report blocked as db relation is missing, but gitlab pod may not be able to be started
[03:07] <veebers> wallyworld: ack. Makes sense
[04:04] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: hey, do I need to merge that change forward from 2.3 to 2.4, or will that get done periodically?
[04:04] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: only if someone does it; feel free to do it this time
[04:05] <babbageclunk> ok, so a full forward merge from 2.3 to 2.4, right?
[04:07] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: ^
[04:07] <wallyworld> yeah
[04:07] <wallyworld> sorry, otp, distracted
[04:29] <veebers> wallyworld: I'll need to revert my change to my caas charm where it sets active before setting podspec, as we never overwrite that unless the cloud container is error, blocked or allocating
[04:31] <babbageclunk> kelvinliu__: did you get anywhere with the flag problem?
[04:33] <kelvinliu__> babbageclunk, I manually chown the log files to solve the problem. but I am still solving a different error now
[04:33] <veebers> hmm, actually is this a different issue
[04:34] <kelvinliu__> babbageclunk, {"request-id":2,"error":"unknown version (2) of interface \"Agent\"","error-code":"not implemented","response":"'body redacted'"} Agent[""].GetEntities, seems the Agent facade is not registered correctly.
[04:35] <veebers> wallyworld: no, I think it's my crappy active message that has me wrong. Charm will set active, pod starts up, if it encounters errors they are displayed (and in  history) then once resolved the charm active status is used (including in history)
[04:35] <babbageclunk> kelvinliu__: I wouldn't have thought the log file would cause any problem - it tries to create and chown the file but doesn't worry if it fails.
[04:36] <babbageclunk> kelvinliu__: weird, that sounds like a mismatch between what the client and the server thinks that facade version should be.
[04:36] <babbageclunk> If you turn on trace-level logging for juju.apiserver, can you see the contents of the login response?
[04:36] <babbageclunk> That should show all of the registered versions of all facades.
[04:41] <kelvinliu__> babbageclunk, let me have a try,
[04:46] <anastasiamac> babbageclunk: do u have a chance to review this little gem? https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/9175
[04:46] <babbageclunk> anastasiamac: of course!
[04:46] <anastasiamac> babbageclunk: \o/
[04:49] <wallyworld> veebers: sorry, otp. seems like you got it sorted
[04:49] <veebers> aye, sorry for the noise
[05:00] <babbageclunk> anastasiamac: sorry, got distracted - reviewed!
[05:01] <babbageclunk> anastasiamac: did you tag the wrong PR for your trello task?
[05:03] <anastasiamac> thnx!
[05:03] <anastasiamac> and yes but untagged within seconds :(
[05:03] <babbageclunk> anastasiamac: do we normally need to get merge PRs reviewed? This one was small and pretty straightforward. https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/9181
[05:04] <anastasiamac> babbageclunk: no
[05:04] <babbageclunk> sweeeeet
[05:04] <anastasiamac> and fwiw i had a pcik at ur merge and +1
[05:04] <babbageclunk> Thanks!
[05:04] <kelvinliu__> babbageclunk, NewConnFacade.caller.BestFacadeVersion('Agent') --> 2         CallNotImplementedError -> &rpcreflect.CallNotImplementedError{RootMethod:"Agent", Version:2, Method:""}
[05:04] <kelvinliu__> , and we have only one v2 facade for Agent on apiserver   do u think what's wrong here
[05:04] <anastasiamac> babbageclunk: i have not clicked the button but will for ur peace of  mind
[05:05] <babbageclunk> anastasiamac: thanks! Then it's diffuse responsibility when it breaks everything,
[05:06] <anastasiamac> babbageclunk: certainly, especially in that universe where we held reviewers accountable as much as devs :)
[05:06] <babbageclunk> :D
[05:07] <anastasiamac> babbageclunk: funny. i did originally do everything in the loop but though it'd be cleaner to separate individual logical steps.. i'll revert
[05:10] <babbageclunk> anastasiamac: thanks!
[05:11] <anastasiamac> babbageclunk: nws, the difference of course is that u will always get an additional pass through the loop
[05:11] <anastasiamac> babbageclunk: so in most cases, instead of going once, u'll loop twice
[05:12] <anastasiamac> babbageclunk: since the loop will be do-while instead of while-do
[05:13] <babbageclunk> anastasiamac: I think that's ok, but you could just have an if-break in the middle if you wanted it to be the other way.
[05:14] <babbageclunk> kelvinliu__: sorry, I have to go for a bit, but I'll be back online later on
[05:14] <anastasiamac> babbageclunk: i could but in terms of lean loop, the ifs and other logic stmts, make it yuck...
[05:15] <kelvinliu__> babbageclunk, no worries. cu later
[05:15] <babbageclunk> anastasiamac: I'm not sure - it's not a big deal either way
[07:01] <babbageclunk> kelvinliu__: did you get that facade issue sorted out? want any help?
[07:03] <kelvinliu__> babbageclunk, just got some hints from Ian, im testing on it now. Thank you
[07:05] <babbageclunk> kelvinliu__: cool cool
[07:06] <kelvinliu__> babbageclunk, have a good one, cu tmr
[07:06] <babbageclunk> kelvinliu__: you too! :)
[07:08] <wallyworld> kelvinliu__: if you get a chance between testing, here's a small PR which fixes a critical k8s agent issue affecting CI and end users which I'd like to land https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/9182
[07:08] <kelvinliu__> wallyworld, looking now
[07:09] <wallyworld> ty
[07:22] <kelvinliu__> wallyworld, LGTM thanks
[07:22] <wallyworld> tyvm
[07:22] <wallyworld> how's the jujud? did you find any state errors?
[07:30] <kelvinliu__> wallyworld, found a mongo auth issue, looking on it now
[07:30] <wallyworld> kelvinliu__: ah good! at least that explains the error
[07:30] <kelvinliu__> wallyworld, yeah, thanks!
[09:03] <boritek> hello, after a machine restart "juju status" hangs, and the gui is not reachable
[09:03] <boritek> also the IP not pingable
[09:03] <boritek> how can I start it again?
[09:03] <boritek> it seems the controller is not running
[09:08] <stickupkid> if you've lost your controller and you no longer have access to it, then you need to bootstrap and start from scratch...
[09:13] <boritek> stickupkid: how can i lose it?
[09:13] <boritek> nothing special happened. is it not production ready?
[09:13] <stickupkid> boritek: which provider did you use, lxd, aws, azure, etc?
[09:14] <boritek> stickupkid: I configured my own maas
[09:15] <boritek> and maas-controller is on the same host where juju controller was
[09:15] <stickupkid> boritek: i don't know enough about setting maas up to be more helpful, some people will come on later today that will be able to help you more
[09:16] <boritek> stickupkid: does juju controller not run in a container?
[09:17] <boritek> how could I manually start it up?
[09:17] <boritek> is it in lxc, lxd ?
[11:32] <rick_h_> boritek: so the controller runs on top of hardware registered in MAAS
[11:32] <rick_h_> boritek: the controller runs on the cloud with the software you want to run/manage so that we know it can reach everything network-wise and such
[12:42] <rick_h_> TFW your print says it's out of paper and you can't recall the last time you put paper in it or where fresh paper might be...
[21:16] <veebers> so with the fixes for 1.11 going into 2.3 and 2.4 I suspect that we're looking at doing the next release with go 1.11?
[21:30] <rick_h_> veebers: just trying to test windows
[21:31] <rick_h_> veebers: we're not updating everything to 1.11. the issues fixed are valid 1.10
[21:31] <rick_h_> veebers: my understanding is 1.11 is a sprint topic
[21:36] <veebers> rick_h_: ack I see, thanks for confirming


[04:44] <snadge> wow so after 1 year.. the "fglrx" bug.. turned out to be a bug in compiz after all ;)
[04:44] <snadge> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/770283
[20:06] <heliAAA> hi, there is problem with eclipse, after switching between virtual desktops, sometimes there is no input possible in eclipse. you can select editors but no input is recognized
[20:48] <dsathe> hello anyone home ?
[20:49] <dsathe> need some help , i want to compile unity on arch
[20:49] <dsathe> all content i find via google seems a bit dted
[20:50] <dsathe> i can compile it but it boots into a blank wallpaper screen
[20:50] <dsathe> i also have gnome 3.4 shell installed, and will liek to retain both could someone here help me