[00:00] <Mrokii> Hello. If I change the hosts-file to make some domains unreachable, do I need to log out and back in to activate it or should it be active right after saving?
[00:06] <Bashing-om> !hostname | Mrokii Can not say about activation - but do be careful here :
[00:07] <Mrokii> Bashing-om: Thanks, but I don't want to change the hostname. I just know that I should be able to redirect/block urls via editing /etc/hosts. That's the only thing I want to change.
[00:08] <Bashing-om> Mrokii: K; I go back to lurking ;
[00:08] <Mrokii> :)
[00:11] <easyOnMe> can anyone help me with this error and what I can do about it: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[00:11] <easyOnMe> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[00:12] <hggdh> easyOnMe: there is probably another process running and using the lock
[00:12] <easyOnMe> hggdh: how do I stop it
[00:15] <Bashing-om> easyOnMe: Close all apps out that direct to dpkg .. there can be only one .
[00:15] <easyOnMe> Bashing-om: that's the thing I do not know the terminal command how to do that
[00:16] <easyOnMe> I am still googling on it
[00:17] <wendico> hello, im using a laptop connected to a secondary vga screen. how can i configure ubuntu so it will by default boot using the secondary screen and not the laptop so i dont have to hit the funtion keys to swap to my other screen?  Thank you very much.
[00:18] <hggdh> easyOnMe: the easiest thing for you, then, wouldbe to reboot. Pretty much anything we can tell you to do will require use of the command line
[00:18] <hggdh> easyOnMe: rebooting will automatically terminate any usage of the lock
[00:19] <easyOnMe> hggdh: I already solve the problem
[00:19] <easyOnMe> thank
[00:19] <easyOnMe> you
[00:22] <KalEl> I can't sudo anymore
[00:22] <KalEl> "arnab is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[00:22] <KalEl> "
[00:22] <KalEl> Sorry
[00:22] <KalEl> That's the error...
[00:23] <KalEl> Using xubuntu
[00:24] <k1l_> KalEl: what is the output of "groups"?
[00:24] <\9> KalEl: any particular reason for this breaking now?
[00:25] <KalEl> It says "groups: cannot find name for group ID 1000"
[00:25] <k1l_> KalEl: erm, what did you do before that happened?
[00:25] <FireBeard> just log out and login as root
[00:26] <EriC^^> just did usermod $(cat /dev/urandom)
[00:26] <\9> FireBeard: you don't login as root...
[00:26] <EriC^^> what you mean k1l_ ?
[00:26] <EriC^^> j/k
[00:26] <FireBeard> I do
[00:26] <\9> then you're doing it wrong
[00:26] <k1l_> FireBeard: no, that is not a helpfull advice for ubuntu.
[00:26] <FireBeard> ok
[00:26] <KalEl> I did an sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:26] <FireBeard> 18 years of linux using down the friggin drain
[00:27] <\9> !root | FireBeard
[00:27] <FireBeard> who is saying anything about guessing the root password?
[00:27] <k1l_> FireBeard: other distros still have different setups but not on ubuntu. ubuntu is build around the setup to use sudo and not actively use the root account.
[00:27] <FireBeard> I must be missing something here
[00:28] <\9> you said login as root, that involves username and password
[00:28] <FireBeard> if you did the install on that pc yourself, yes
[00:28] <KalEl> How do I login as root?
[00:28] <\9> um no, the root password is not set
[00:28] <\9> KalEl: boot into single-user mode
[00:28] <FireBeard> you can set it
[00:29] <k1l_> KalEl: that is not helping.
[00:29] <FireBeard> never mind, geez
[00:29] <dli> how to auto switch to tablet mode for a 2-in-1 laptop? need to disable keyboard, touchpad, and rotate screen accordingly
[00:29] <\9> FireBeard: you *shouldn't* set it
[00:29] <KalEl> Sorry
[00:29] <k1l_> KalEl: so did you change anything with the user or groups?
[00:29] <KalEl> No I didn't
[00:29] <FireBeard> uhuh you know it all
[00:29] <k1l_> FireBeard: its outside of the scope of this channel.  its not the ubuntu way. this is #ubuntu so we stick to the ubuntu way.
[00:30] <FireBeard> k1l_: ah ok
[00:30] <FireBeard> I had no idea
[00:30] <KalEl> Sorry let me see if I can figure it out
[00:30] <KalEl> Sorry to bother you guys
[00:30] <FireBeard> it's ok
[00:30] <FireBeard> :)
[00:30] <k1l_> KalEl: "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999"
[00:30] <FireBeard> always relax, mate
[00:31] <KalEl> http://termbin.com/bgaq
[00:31] <FireBeard> strange thing, people who come here normally installed Ubu themselves... oh well
[00:31] <k1l_> FireBeard: its enough
[00:31] <KalEl> Could it be that the disk is corrupt
[00:31] <k1l_> FireBeard: stop sabotaging the support for other users with your "i need to be root" talk.
[00:32] <farchanjo> k1l_:  nice tool.. termbin.. i did not know about it..
[00:33] <FireBeard> and this is one of the reasons I got outta here about a decade ago, ask for help, provide help, but anything related to administration help/answers is taboo
[00:33] <FireBeard> later
[00:33] <k1l_> KalEl: this is a guest in a vbox? you just booted it?
[00:33] <KalEl> Yes
[00:33] <KalEl> I was gonna say that sorry
[00:33] <KalEl> This is a virtualbox OS
[00:35] <k1l> KalEl: so what did you do there to that system? was that running fine before? i dont see any hardware failure (which is unlikely in a vbox)
[00:35] <KalEl> I did one more thing - I removed access to admins on the guest Windows OS
[00:35] <KalEl> But I still have full access
[00:36] <KalEl> I reset it back to how it was now, i.e. restored read/write access, still get this error
[00:37] <k1l> KalEl: you did remove admin access where?
[00:37] <k1l> KalEl: this  sounds like this caused this error
[00:37] <KalEl> In the guest (Win10) OS, for the virtualbox image
[00:37] <KalEl> In the host... sorry
[00:38] <KalEl> In the host (Win10) OS, for the virtualbox image and disk which contains the xubuntu where I get the error
[00:39] <k1l> KalEl: i would guess that this corrupted the vbox somehow.
[00:39] <KalEl> Ok
[00:39] <KalEl> I will try to recover my data and reinstall
[00:39] <OerHeks> That took you 17 minutes
[00:40] <farchanjo> why don’t you boot a live cd and restore your missing group?
[00:40] <KalEl> Ohh right
[00:40] <KalEl> Will try that thanks
[00:41] <farchanjo> just mount your device on another path
[00:41] <farchanjo> open the group file
[00:41] <farchanjo> and add a missing group
[00:41] <farchanjo> restore your home permission folder..
[00:42] <farchanjo> you can do it using single mode.. before binary kernel call initramfs, they stop and you can recover anything, but is easier to boot a live cd..
[00:42] <farchanjo> :D
[00:44] <k1l> yes, you could boot to recovery in grub and try to solve that there. but i doubt that will be just recreating the group.
[00:45] <crespo> HP PSC1610 All-in-One
[00:46] <farchanjo> “groups: cannot find name for group ID 1000”
[00:46] <farchanjo> I think is just missing the group name for this id
[00:46] <farchanjo> i hope..
[00:46] <mikubuntu> my friend just updated to 16.04 lubuntu and his HP PSC1610 All-in-One will no longer work, can someone plz help us troubleshoot
[00:47] <k1l> farchanjo: that group doesnt run away on its own :)
[00:48] <KalEl> I booted from the livecd, do you know how I can
[00:48] <KalEl> boot
[00:48] <KalEl> or mount my original drive?
[00:49] <farchanjo> you have to mount your original drive, then repair you group file
[00:49] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | mikubuntu : try and advise :
[00:49] <farchanjo> try to add your old group there as 1000 id then save and reboot without livecd
[00:51] <mikubuntu> Bashing-om: so i'm not having the black screen problem -- my friend can't get his printer HP PSC1610 All-in-One to work on his dell 1525 laptop
[00:52] <Bashing-om> mikubuntu: Oh A printer issue . Sorry , nope I can not advise in that .
[00:52] <farchanjo> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/psc/psc_1600_series.html
[00:52] <mikubuntu> we tried looking for "additional drivers" with the printer plugged in, turned on and connected, but no luck
[00:53] <mikubuntu> of course we also went thru the normal printer setup routine, but it did not work
[00:57] <KalEl> I think I have located my HDD from the live cd's /media
[00:57] <KalEl> Is there any way I can check the groups?
[00:59] <mikubuntu> ok -- farchanjo i think that hplip is probably what we need, i'm remembering 3 years ago installing it, but don't know the best install method now? is there a .deb package available? is it available in the software center?
[00:59] <farchanjo> i dont know..
[01:00] <farchanjo> KalEl: fdisk -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[01:00] <farchanjo> as root
[01:03] <rich_> i've just  installed ubuntu on an old windows 7 laptop, and it works except that every time I boot it up, the mouse buttons and keyboard stop working after a couple minutes.
[01:03] <rich_> I've tried a couple a different mouses and the behaviour is the same.
[01:08] <texla> I have install grub-pc on Ubuntu-16.04.1 to have Ubuntu boot first from menu..Now I have lines scrolling between boot and login. How do I correct this problem.
[01:15] <KalEl> cat etc/group prints garbage
[01:17] <mikubuntu> thx farchanjo got the printer working
[01:18] <reisio> KalEl: garbage?
[01:18] <farchanjo> thanks too
[01:18] <farchanjo> haha
[01:18] <farchanjo> KalEl:
[01:18] <farchanjo> have u mounted your fs?
[01:18] <KalEl> It was illegible... I think the file is corrupted
[01:18] <KalEl> Yes
[01:18] <farchanjo> all right
[01:18] <KalEl> Sorry I just deleted it
[01:18] <KalEl> I will reinstall
[01:18] <farchanjo> did u use chroot command
[01:18] <farchanjo> wait
[01:19] <farchanjo> if you don’t use chroot you have deleted the livecd group file..
[01:20] <farchanjo> KalEl:
[01:20] <farchanjo>  /var/backups
[01:20] <KalEl> Sorry it's already gone
[01:20] <farchanjo> there are some backups there
[01:20] <KalEl> Sorry
[01:20] <farchanjo> right
[01:22] <farchanjo> KalEl: next time, you can recover your /etc/group from another install.. or recover the backu file.. there are other ways to do that…
[01:22] <farchanjo> i will back to my cassandra.. haha
[01:23] <KalEl> Thanks
[01:23] <farchanjo> we’re welcome..
[01:37] <UnbelieverNJ> So, this is where someone can get support?
[01:37] <tonyt> when one downloads the latest linux kerenel, how does one install it?
[01:37] <coder-bts> yeah sure if neccesary
[01:38] <UnbelieverNJ> anyone know why the cups server shuts itself down after 7 minutes?
[01:38] <coder-bts> *necessary
[01:40] <reisio> tonyt: "loads"?
[01:40] <reisio> "downloads"?
[01:40] <reisio> eben
[01:40] <reisio> tonyt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[01:40] <tonyt> k
[01:41] <dell> hi, i have a few basic questoins about ubuntu and linux in general... there are several folders in ubuntu by default, like /var, /opt etc. etc. Do all third-party software gets instlaled in /opt ?
[01:41] <reisio> dell: that is a de facto convention, yes
[01:41] <dell> where should i keep my files reisio ?
[01:42] <reisio> your files that are for what?
[01:42] <dell> suppose i am developing a project. where should i keep my folders ?
[01:42] <dell> a node project, or an angular project
[01:42] <reisio> you should keep everything you care about within ~/ (/home/youruser/)
[01:42] <farchanjo> tonyt: why do u need a new kernel?
[01:42] <reisio> ~/projects/project#27
[01:42] <dell> if i keep them there, will they be accessible from windows on dual boot ?
[01:43] <dell> reisio,  ??
[01:43] <reisio> dell: just as much as if you kept them anywhere else, yes
[01:44] <reisio> you'd need something to read ext, most likely, on Windows
[01:44] <reisio> why're you dual booting?
[01:44] <dell> i am new to ubuntu and if i mess up something, i would like to able to work on windows immediately
[01:44] <dell> its my work pc and i am experimenting with ubuntu
[01:45] <dell> are there are any good backup software in ubuntu? like taking backup every 3 hours
[01:45] <reisio> dell: yes, many
[01:45] <reisio> do you want 1:1 backup, or incremental backup (every backup is cumulative)?
[01:46] <dell> 1:1 sounds better
[01:46] <dell> easy to extracrt
[01:47] <reisio> well, that's not really, hrmmm
[01:47] <angel1604> hello
[01:48] <reisio> so 1:1 is good if you want to say "I want to restore to 3 hours ago x FOO"
[01:48] <reisio> but you also have to worry about what to do when you run out of space and have to prune old backups
[01:48] <reisio> incremental is usually deduplicated
[01:49] <reisio> so if nothing has changed in 3 hours, your backup nothing new
[01:49] <reisio> if 2 megs has changed, you backup only 2 megs
[01:49] <reisio> with 1:1 you always backup everything, basically
[01:49] <reisio> unless you're making a single 1:1 mirror, in which case it can work much the same as deduplicated
[01:49] <dell> ok.. so any software recommendations for incremental, then ?
[01:49] <reisio> what you should think about is what you're protecting yourself from
[01:50] <reisio> if you want to be able to undo 24 hours' worth of mistakes, you can just do a 1:1 backup daily
[01:50] <reisio> if you want to be able to reset entirely to _any point in the past_, you want incremental
[01:50] <reisio> for the former rsync is plenty
[01:51] <reisio> for the latter rdiff-backup is nice / some others with similar features are obnam, bup
[01:51] <reisio> only used rsync & rdiff-backup, they're nice
[01:51] <reisio> rdiff-backup-fs is something you'll want, too, if you use rdiff-backup
[01:52] <dell> so, for incremental, dont i have to restore from the first point ?
[01:52] <reisio> no you pick a time
[01:52] <reisio> if you run, for example, rdiff-backup /foo/ /bar/ every hour
[01:53] <reisio> then you can restore to what your data was at any individual hour in the past from when you had run a backup
[01:53] <dell> ok. i will look into those. thanks.
[01:53] <reisio> but it only stores differences, so it keeps disk usage down
[01:53] <dell> so, are there many terminal managers that are available? i am using the one on xubuntu. is it bash?
[01:53] <reisio> otherwise if you altered a 50gb file, for example, you would have to store a second copy of a 50gb file
[01:53] <freakyy> if i install the webupd8 java 8 installer, where to is my oracle java 8 jdk installed? i need it for netbeans (ide)
[01:54] <reisio> dell: you're probably using bash (a "shell") within xfce4-terminal (a terminal emulator), yes
[01:54] <dell> how do i know what i am using, ctrl alt t is opening a terminal window for me
[01:54] <reisio> freakyy: netbeans shouldn't really need oracle's stuff
[01:54] <reisio> nothing should, really
[01:54] <reisio> certainly nothing worth using
[01:54] <dell> ok. its. xfce4-terminal 0.6.3
[01:54] <reisio> dell: it'll probably say in the help menu, but
[01:55] <reisio> dell: xwininfo would also say
[01:55] <freakyy> reisio: it does it tells me during install. i wanna use oracle stuff
[01:55] <reisio> dell: ps aux | grep -i term would help you guess
[01:55] <reisio> freakyy: you ever heard someone assert something that was false?
[01:55] <freakyy> what?
[01:55] <reisio> anyway, if you tell apt to install netbeans, it should install any java deps it requires without additional user interaction
[01:56] <freakyy> hm
[01:56] <reisio> it's not something you should think about
[01:56] <reisio> that's rather the purpose of package managers
[01:56] <freakyy> ok ill try one moment
[01:56] <dell> reisio, i was reading something about path aliases and the article suggested ------>  As far as paths go, if you are working from the command line, you can define a bash alias (in ~/.bashrc or in ~/.bash_aliases) to shorten any path or even to change into the directory.
[01:56] <dell> would that work in xfce terminal ?
[01:57] <reisio> dell: xfce4-terminal uses your shell (bash), and that shell would respect aliases, yes
[01:57] <freakyy> hm, reisio i wanna use oracles java
[01:57] <freakyy> not openjdk
[01:57] <reisio> dell: I would probably use symlinks in that scenario, though, but it's a subtle difference
[01:57] <dell> are there any termianls other than bash ?
[01:58] <dell> i created a symlnk the other eay
[01:58] <reisio> if you alias 'foo' to 'cd ~/what/ev/ers'
[01:58] <dell> the other day.
[01:58] <reisio> vs symlinking ~/foo to ~/what/ev/ers (and running cd ~/foo)
[01:58] <dell> its easy, but i am a little worried that if i delete the symlink hte folder gets deleted
[01:58] <reisio> dell: yes there are many, bash is simply the most popular by far
[01:58] <reisio> that doesn't happen, just test it somewhere
[01:58] <dell> ok
[01:59] <dell> have you ever used windows reisio ?
[01:59] <reisio> mkdir ~/test/foo -p; ln -s ~/test/foo ~/test/bar; rm ~/test/bar; file ~/test/foo
[02:00] <reisio> you can also use 'unlink' if you're paranoid, though it's simply excessive vs rm
[02:00] <reisio> yeah I mostly started on Windows
[02:00] <reisio> C64/Apple II, DOS, Windows 3.1 ... Windows 2k ... GNU/Linux
[02:00] <dell> reisio, symlinks worked fine. great
[02:01] <dell> in windows, win+r pops up a run box, where i can type a path or command.... how to achieve that in xubuntu?
[02:01] <gaurav42> how to connect Ubuntu client to windows server
[02:01] <dell> opening a path in windows, opens file explorer
[02:01] <reisio> dell: it's probably ALT+F2, by default, in Xubuntu
[02:01] <EriC^^> dell: alt+f2 then command
[02:02] <dell> great. thanks
[02:02] <dell> it worked
[02:02] <reisio> you can map it to whatever you want, really
[02:02] <EriC^^> or <filemanager> /path/to/dir for opening a dir
[02:02] <reisio> thinking about it, I'd say ALT+F2 is actually easier to hit than Win+R
[02:02] <reisio> Apple's meta+spacebar is possibly better
[02:02] <reisio> but that's almost all I have to say that's positive about macOS :p
[02:02] <dell> how to map those shortcuts /
[02:03] <dell> in settings > keyboard ?
[02:03] <reisio> dell: yeah
[02:03] <dell> any shortcut to see desktop ?
[02:03] <EriC^^> oh, actually just alt+f2 then /path opens it in the filemanager
[02:03] <reisio> dell: CTRL+ALT+d, by default, probably
[02:03] <dell> reisio, sometimes that doesnt work for me
[02:03] <reisio> dell: whentiems
[02:03] <EriC^^> ctrl+super+d on unity
[02:03] <reisio> whentimes*
[02:04] <sivaprasad> Hi guys
[02:04] <EriC^^> for some reason i never really use the desktop for icons in linux
[02:04] <reisio> yeah I don't like desktop icons
[02:04] <reisio> it's just asking to make a mess
[02:04] <EriC^^> in windows my desktop was always a mess
[02:04] <EriC^^> yeah
[02:05] <dell> sorry, tried a shortcut and my hexchat got closed :)
[02:05] <jason_-> I just search for everything
[02:05] <reisio> I only ever use it for temporary files, and it just becomes a mess
[02:05] <reisio> but my memory is still functional
[02:05] <reisio> if I were old and my brain were full of holes, I might like explicit launchers on the desktop
[02:05]  * reisio shrugs
[02:05] <reisio> of course as soon as you open something they'd disappear
[02:05] <reisio> seems not a good idea to rely on them
[02:05] <dell> do you know node.js reisio ?
[02:06] <reisio> the Unity style launcher is useful for that
[02:06] <reisio> dell: no, I know JS alright
[02:06] <reisio> 100% disinterested in node.js
[02:06] <dell> so, php ?
[02:07] <d_ven0m> Is there any way to create 2d shapes that conform to real sizes (in, cm) so that when I print them out they are the same size as on the computer?
[02:07] <dell> reisio, so, i tried something called supervisor the other day
[02:07] <EriC^^> d_ven0m: you could use a cad program with a 1/1 scale
[02:07] <dell> its for starting some service in the background without an explicit terminal window
[02:07] <dell> i read there are others available as well. like init.d or something
[02:08] <d_ven0m> EriC^^: is there a free 2d cad program with 1/1 scale ability?
[02:08] <EriC^^> d_ven0m: i've only used autocad and other windows software, but i hear freecad is good
[02:09] <EriC^^> there's an autocad clone for linux called draftsight, give it a shot
[02:09] <dell> ok thanks guys, i got to go but appreciate the help
[02:10] <d_ven0m> EriC^^: Thanks, I'm going to try them out
[02:10] <EriC^^> try draftsight first, it's easier i think cause it's not parametrized
[02:11] <EriC^^> no problem
[02:19] <Newtius> Hello
[02:19] <Newtius> so is anyone here
[02:21] <Bashing-om> Newtius: Ubuntu support ; Ya got to throw some bait out to see what bites :)
[02:21] <Newtius> I'm really bad at this so <3
[02:22] <Bashing-om> Newtius: Practice makes perfect . State your issue .
[02:23] <reisio> Newtius: at what?
[02:23] <Newtius> I've been trying to install Ubuntu 16.04.2 onto a usb(cruzer sandisk 8gb) and booting it from my windows 10 machine
[02:25] <Newtius> When I boot up the USB, I get SYSLINUX 4.04 EDD 2011-04-18 Copyright (C) 1994-2011 H. Peter Anvin et al. I used rufus to put the iso on to usb.
[02:31] <magkneetoe> Hi, everyone. I just installed 16.04. I have two software apps. 'Ubuntu Software Center' and 'Ubuntu Software.' What is the difference and why does 'Ubuntu Software' not launch?
[02:32] <reisio> dunno, every now and then Canonical decides it needs a new apt frontend
[02:32] <reisio> but it's all apt under the hood
[02:33] <magkneetoe> reisio: thank you
[02:34] <reisio> magkneetoe: maybe GNOME's package manager frontend vs Canonical's
[02:34] <reisio> http://askubuntu.com/questions/847653/ubuntu-software-vs-software-center http://www.pcworld.com/article/3017152/linux/ubuntu-16-04-lts-will-dump-the-ubuntu-software-center-for-gnome-software.html
[02:34] <reisio> but ultimately what I already said: they can't make up their minds :p
[02:34] <magkneetoe> It could be but I understood that its all apt
[02:34] <reisio> it's what happens when you don't have clear goals
[02:34] <magkneetoe> so I will leave it
[02:34] <reisio> you just develop things forever instead of finishing them
[02:35] <magkneetoe> xD
[02:35] <magkneetoe> man they dont have the minimize from dock feature
[02:35] <reisio> from or two?
[02:35] <magkneetoe> like i wanna click the firefox icon on my dock tominimize it
[02:36] <reisio> you can probably find an app/script or two in the repo or elsewhere to minimize arbitrary apps to the tray
[02:36] <magkneetoe> yeah. thanks reisio
[02:38] <littlepenguin> Can some one help with a bit of a conjure up issue?
[02:38] <littlepenguin> I have install the whole cloud and it is running
[02:39] <littlepenguin> but cannot access horizon because I did not get the ip and url at the deployment screen
[02:39] <reisio> oh yes, soon we'll only speak in buzzwords
[02:41] <OerHeks>  but !bing ubuntu cloud horizon adress  says http://node-address:70/horizon
[02:43] <littlepenguin> I do not see it
[02:47] <tubal> magkneetoe, reisio: I have my doubts about USC. Currently, it shows a package in need of updating, but an updated apt-get returns '0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.'
[02:49] <django_> hey guys
[02:49] <reisio> OerHeks: hrmm?
[02:49] <reisio> django_: hi
[02:49] <django_> how can i use chinese chars?
[02:49] <reisio> django_: yes
[02:49] <reisio> tubal: yeah I don't imagine they debugged it very well
[02:49] <reisio> frontends are always going to have those issues
[02:50] <django_> reisio, hhow lol
[02:50] <reisio> especially the more complex they are (the less they simply rely on the backend)
[02:50] <reisio> django_: you want to like, use cjk all the time, or just every now and then?
[02:51] <tubal> reisio, 'always' sounds pessimistic. :) I don't see why a frontend /couldn't/ be reliable and relatively unbuggy. Less experienced users really need it too.
[02:55] <reisio> it's possible
[02:55] <reisio> but since you're always making something that is fundamentally redundant to something else, the chance you will do something that ends up being buggy is exponentially high
[02:55] <reisio> the more complex you make something, the more ways it can fail, always
[02:55] <reisio> that's all I meant :)
[02:57] <tubal> reisio: Understood. :)
[02:58] <littlepenguin> Hello I was in here a minute ago
[02:58] <littlepenguin> does any one know about conjure up and openstack?
[03:07] <sunrunner20> is there a better folder than /opt to install duo's auth proxy?
[03:07] <sunrunner20> (yes but I don't know which one)
[03:09] <sunrunner20> found a good google result
[03:09] <sunrunner20> says /opt is ok
[03:10] <bobby_> Hello
[03:10] <khk_> Hi
[03:10] <bobby_> Just rying this out.
[03:11] <bobby_> I know nothing of IRC.
[03:11] <khk_> Me too i just downloaded few minutes ago
[03:11] <bobby_> Interesting.
[03:12] <bobby_> this would be qa perfect way to secretly communicate with other people.
[03:12] <bobby_> I like it.
[03:12] <bobby_> :)
[03:12] <sawthewhat> why? i saw only 1 people before servral mins ago in this channel.
[03:13] <bobby_> Well, that's why.
[03:13] <bobby_> No one here.
[03:13] <Bashing-om> bobby_: khk_ This channel is ubuntu support . Our general chat cchannel is #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[03:13] <bobby_> Ok.
[03:14] <bobby_> Bye Bye
[03:14] <sawthewhat> how can i see the channel list?
[03:15] <reisio> sawthewhat: on freenode: /msg alis list *foo*
[03:15] <sawthewhat> ok thx.
[03:25] <gaurav42> how to join Ubuntu Clint to windows server
[03:26] <reisio> gaurav42: hrmm?
[03:31] <tom_> HELLO
[03:32] <tom_> NEED TO INSTALL REPOSITORIES
[03:34] <tom_> hello anirban
[03:36] <bivo> Getting an error trying to run steam with the oss AMD drivers this in the error Steam drops http://pastebin.com/cEEzbMxv and this is the GLXinfo dump http://pastebin.com/Y9dHvXj7
[03:36] <moorenm16> Hello?
[03:39] <django_> reisio, sorry
[03:39] <django_> every now and then
[03:39] <django_> i was asking about using chinese keyboard
[03:40] <reisio> whta about it
[03:41] <django_> how to use it
[03:43] <justwalle> lol
[03:43] <justwalle> thanks amazon
[03:43] <justwalle> for amazon prime
[03:44] <justwalle> is that why you have alexa
[03:44] <justwalle> is alexa a transformer?
[03:45] <hggdh> ?
[03:46] <jamesd> alexa is a game changer it rocks...
[03:50] <ljc> hey i'm having trouble setting up my wifi on ubuntu server
[03:51] <ljc> i've laid out my files to be following this template https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1238387 . with /etc/network/interfaces pointing to wpa_supplicant.conf
[03:53] <ljc> and i've tried wpa_supplicant.conf with psk="PASSWORD" and psk=103aHASH (generated from running `wpa_passphrase ssid password`)
[03:53] <ljc> but neither work
[03:58] <w6equj5> Hi all, I need help troubleshooting Ethernet connection issues on a fresh install of Xubuntu 16.04. I know for sure the Ethernet card works because my live USB could connect to the Internet. But once installed, Xubuntu tells me it is connected, but nothing works. Even pinging my gateway doesn't work. I have no clue why. Same computer had same problem with the previous install of Ubuntu 14.04. I thought reinstalling a new one would somehow
[03:58] <w6equj5> solve it but now. Please help!
[03:59] <vengeancecube> hello
[03:59] <reisio> hi
[04:00] <vengeancecube> Wondering if anyone can help me as I'm freaking out...I'm sure you get this all the time but I just lost everything. Ran a chmod and all my files are gone
[04:00] <reisio> no, they aren't
[04:00] <vengeancecube> I really hope you're right
[04:00] <reisio> chmod doesn't delete things
[04:00] <vengeancecube> sudo find /storage/PlexMedia -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;; find /storage/PlexMedia -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
[04:00] <vengeancecube> that's what I ran
[04:00] <reisio> there's probably a 0.000000000000000000000000000001% chance that lost any files
[04:01] <vengeancecube> checked the drive and all my files are gone
[04:01] <reisio> they're probably just no longer readable in the way you want them to be
[04:01] <vengeancecube> ok, so next question: how do I get them back?
[04:01] <reisio> vengeancecube: what kind of files are they?
[04:01] <reisio> vengeancecube: why'd you run that in the first place?
[04:02] <vengeancecube> it's terabytes of photos and videos
[04:02] <reisio> k
[04:02] <vengeancecube> I am setting up a plex media server
[04:02] <reisio> vengeancecube: why'd you run that in the first place?
[04:02] <vengeancecube> wanted to be able to view them all on my TV
[04:02] <reisio> okay, well
[04:02] <reisio> if you aren't worried about other people reading them, you can just chmod 777 the files
[04:02] <vengeancecube> the tutorial I was going through said I'd need to let plex have ownership of the folder
[04:02] <reisio> and you'll probably be back in business
[04:02] <reisio> sounds like a daft tutorial
[04:02] <reisio> either that or plex itself is crap
[04:03] <vengeancecube> ok, admittedly newb here
[04:03] <vengeancecube> what exactly should I enter to get the files back
[04:03] <vengeancecube> the entire /storage is empty
[04:03] <vengeancecube> I don't care about others reading them for now
[04:03] <reisio> you'll need ssh access to the plex device, then
[04:03] <reisio> or physical filesystem access
[04:03] <vengeancecube> terminal is already up
[04:04] <reisio> so where're your files?
[04:04] <vengeancecube> they were in /storage
[04:04] <reisio> chmod -R 777 path/to/files/ will probably suffice
[04:04] <vengeancecube> ok, let me try
[04:04] <reisio> just keep in mind that it's a command you don't want to ordinarily run casually
[04:04] <reisio> as with the command you already ran that broke stuff, it can really break stuff
[04:04] <reisio> in this case, with a bunch of personal files on a local network only, there's little risk
[04:04] <vengeancecube> ok. geez I hope this works
[04:04] <reisio> personal media files*
[04:05] <reisio> it won't ever delete data
[04:05] <reisio> but it can really make your life hard
[04:05] <vengeancecube> ran it
[04:05] <vengeancecube> no output
[04:05] <vengeancecube> checked the folder and there's still nothing there
[04:05] <reisio> try restarting your plex/network mount/service
[04:05] <reisio> service/s :p
[04:06] <vengeancecube> no good there
[04:06] <vengeancecube> plex shouldn't really ever delete anything. It just accesses the media
[04:07] <vengeancecube> maybe I need to back up here
[04:08] <reisio> you should backup anything you care about that you haven't backed up
[04:08] <vengeancecube> I was trying to move the metadat from plex off my server's main drive before added the libraries
[04:08] <reisio> but there's virtually no chance you've lost anything
[04:08] <reisio> probably the server can't read the files now
[04:08] <reisio> and your network mount manifests that as no files
[04:08] <vengeancecube> is there any way to verify that the files are still there?
[04:08] <reisio> from the plex install, yeah
[04:09] <vengeancecube> I mean from the terminal
[04:09] <reisio> find /path/to/files/ -type f -exec file {} \; | head
[04:09] <reisio> yes, but not from your local install that presently thinks they don't exist, probably not
[04:09] <reisio> unless you can ssh into the plex install
[04:09] <vengeancecube> ok, I'm a little confused
[04:09] <vengeancecube> I've got a machine running ubuntu server down in my basement
[04:09] <vengeancecube> I installed plex media server on it
[04:10] <vengeancecube> it's got a raid 5 running
[04:10] <vengeancecube> I'm ssh'd into the server from my desktop
[04:10] <vengeancecube> the files should be in /storage
[04:10] <vengeancecube> but when I cd /storage there's nothing there
[04:10] <vengeancecube> does that all sound right?
[04:11] <reisio> vengeancecube: why /storage?
[04:11] <vengeancecube> that's the folder where all my media was stored
[04:11] <vengeancecube> it's the only folder on the raid 5
[04:12] <w6equj5> vengeancecube, reisio, sorry to interrupt guys but could it have something to do with a storage that has been unmounted?
[04:12] <vengeancecube> no, everything is mounted
[04:12] <vengeancecube> I can see the /storage folder
[04:12] <vengeancecube> just everything that was in it is gone
[04:12] <reisio> vengeancecube: what's 'mount' say about 'storage'?
[04:12] <vengeancecube> apologies, not sure what you mean by that
[04:13] <reisio> mount | grep -i storage
[04:13] <vengeancecube> I ran that and there was no output
[04:14] <reisio> then probably it isn't mounted
[04:14] <reisio> it depends
[04:14] <reisio> grep -i storage /etc/fstab
[04:14] <vengeancecube> ran that, nothing happened
[04:14] <vengeancecube> if it wasn't mounted, how could I cd to the folder?
[04:14] <reisio> okay, how about egrep -ir '\/storage' /etc/
[04:15] <vengeancecube> wouldn't it tell me that it doesn't exist?
[04:15] <reisio> a directory ("folder") is just a directory
[04:15] <reisio> no, typically you have an empty directory for any mount point
[04:15] <reisio> if it's not mounted, it'd be an empty directory
[04:15] <vengeancecube>  grep: /etc/group-: Permission denied grep: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied grep: /etc/gshadow: Permission denied grep: /etc/shadow: Permission denied grep: /etc/libvirt/qemu/networks/default.xml: Permission denied grep: /etc/libvirt/qemu.conf: Permission denied grep: /etc/shadow-: Permission denied grep: /etc/apparmor.d/cache/sbin.dhclient: Permission denied grep: /etc/apparmor.d/cache/usr.lib.libvirt.virt-aa-helper: Permission
[04:15] <vengeancecube> whoa
[04:15] <reisio> sudo egrep then
[04:16] <vengeancecube> one sec
[04:17] <vengeancecube> that put out : /etc/samba/smb.conf:path = /storage
[04:17] <vengeancecube> I did have the folder on a samba file share so I could access it through windows
[04:18] <vengeancecube> that setting off any red flags?
[04:20] <reisio> not really
[04:20] <reisio> but it's also not clear how you were mounting /storage, if you were
[04:20] <reisio> vengeancecube: try sudo locate *some*filename*string*you*know*
[04:20] <reisio> sudo locate *jpg
[04:20] <reisio> or sudo find / -iname '*.jpg'
[04:20] <vengeancecube> sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/md0 /storage
[04:20] <vengeancecube> was how I mounted it
[04:20] <reisio> oh you mounted it manually?
[04:20] <reisio> try that again, then
[04:21] <vengeancecube> oh good lord
[04:21] <vengeancecube> they're there
[04:21] <vengeancecube> holy crap you just saved my bacon
[04:21] <vengeancecube> it's all there
[04:21] <priporg> hi, i'm having trouble installing java on Ubuntu 16.04. i tired doing sudo apt install default-jre. Cannot verify java is installed in firefox https://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp. Help
[04:21] <vengeancecube> dude, reisio thank you
[04:21] <vengeancecube> seriously
[04:21] <reisio> priporg: you want java in your browser? This is usually a terrible idea
[04:21] <reisio> vengeancecube: :p
[04:22] <reisio> vengeancecube: so probably if you want that always mounted, you should add a line to /etc/fstab
[04:22] <vengeancecube> oh thank God
[04:22] <vengeancecube> yeah, there WAS a line
[04:22] <reisio> although you probably won't forget it at this point :p
[04:22] <priporg> reisio, it's pretty common that have java installed in browsers...
[04:23] <vengeancecube> WAIT
[04:23] <vengeancecube> good grief, I just figured it out
[04:23] <reisio> priporg: not for maybe 5 years now, no
[04:23] <vengeancecube> I reinstalled ubuntu today
[04:23] <reisio> it's a massive, enormous, terrific security hole
[04:23] <vengeancecube> holy crap I'm an idiot
[04:23] <reisio> you can still do it, you should just know that
[04:23] <vengeancecube> I rebooted and it didn't remount
[04:23] <reisio> makes sense
[04:23] <thyriaen> trying to install libqtcore4 and i got this error : any help ? http://pastebin.com/2jiUKsQy
[04:24] <reisio> one time I disabled the first USB device automatically in an install
[04:24] <vengeancecube> geez it was so simple
[04:24] <reisio> and then the usb order changed and I couldn't figure out why the keyboard didn't work :p
[04:24] <priporg> reisio, right. unfortunately many apps in browsers require java to run.
[04:24] <reisio> priporg: no
[04:24] <reisio> but maybe >0 do
[04:24] <vengeancecube> I'd buy you a beer if I could
[04:24] <reisio> probably not >0 worth using, however
[04:24] <vengeancecube> thank you so much for the help
[04:24] <reisio> vengeancecube: where're you at?
[04:24] <vengeancecube> upstate NY
[04:24] <priporg> reisio, what is >0
[04:24] <reisio> vengeancecube: that's a hike :p
[04:24] <reisio> priporg: a number more than 0
[04:25] <vengeancecube> Well bathe in the satisfaction that you solved someone's life crisis today
[04:25] <vengeancecube> can't properly describe the panic when I saw that empty folder
[04:25] <priporg> hi, i'm having trouble installing java on Ubuntu 16.04. i tried doing sudo apt install default-jre. Cannot verify java is installed in firefox https://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp. What am i doing wrong?
[04:26] <reisio> vengeancecube: :D
[04:26] <reisio> vengeancecube: and now you setup your backup system :p
[04:26] <vengeancecube> The family photos are backed up but the rest of it wasn't. And it wasn't stuff that I could never get again but it would take months.
[04:26] <w6equj5> My Ethernet connection thinks it's on. Xubuntu (16.04) tells me I'm connected, but I can't even ping my gateway ("Destinatin Host Unreachable"). What should be my first troubleshooting step?
[04:26] <reisio> vengeancecube: and since you said you're using RAID, let me tell you now: a RAID is not a backup
[04:26] <vengeancecube> Oh I know
[04:26] <reisio> ok :)
[04:26] <vengeancecube> it's just one line of defense
[04:26] <vengeancecube> the truly important stuff it backed up
[04:26] <reisio> well, it's not a backup at all
[04:26] <reisio> RAID is about redundancy of access, not data
[04:27] <reisio> terrible misnomer
[04:27] <vengeancecube> well if one drive went down I could still theoretically rebuild with no data loss right? I still have the truly important stuff backed up of course but it'd be nice not to have to use it
[04:28] <reisio> it's just not the issue, you really don't want to try and think of RAID as a backup system
[04:29] <vengeancecube> I certainly don't rely on it. As I said, I keep backups of the really irreplaceable stuff
[04:29] <reisio> the purpose of RAID is to increase access to data on storage and _not_ to ensure that data is available in safe, redundant copies
[04:29] <vengeancecube> one off-site
[04:29] <priporg> RAID is about speed
[04:29] <reisio> okay, just making sure :)
[04:29] <vengeancecube> okay, I need to go have a beer.
[04:29] <vengeancecube> drinking to you reisio.  Would it take more time to boot if there are multiple DEs installed?
[04:32] <priporg> CrazyTux, yes
[04:33] <CrazyTux> ok. that is what I thought too.
[04:33] <CrazyTux> I have Xubuntu 16.10 installed. Over that I have installed Lubuntu, Gnome, Mate DEs
[04:34] <CrazyTux> may be because of this it takes more time during boot up.
[04:34] <Bashing-om> CrazyTux: 1)No - the only loss s disk space , 2) No . though lighter desktops can run faster in the more limited resources .
[04:36] <priporg> CrazyTux, yes slower
[04:38] <priporg> i don't think firefox supports Java
[04:38] <priporg> anymore...
[04:43] <Bashing-om>
[04:46] <CrazyTux> hello, how can I remove Gnome DE installed on Xubuntu 16.10. I want to purge entirely. It should not cause other problems though after removing it
[04:56] <CrazyTux> hello, I am using Xubuntu 16.10 with Mate DE. It freezes randomly. what could be the problem?
[05:07] <dli> CrazyTux, find whether it's hardware. try memtest, for example
[05:09] <plgnet> hello? im having issues with installing gtk2 & gtk3 themes can anyone help? im running just a window manager fluxbox
[05:14] <shivamg11000> stuck how to see available wifi networks on ubutu and to connect to one like in windows
[05:15] <shivamg11000> searched google and many sites none worked
[05:22] <gaurav42> hi I have DMS website issue in Ubuntu so some one told me I can access my website from making windows server and access that site from Ubuntu client then I can access my DMS site from Ubuntu so I dont know how to connect my site from Ubuntu client to windows server
[05:24] <gaurav42> if any one have Ubuntu knowledge how to join windows network and access site from windows server please help me to assist
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:42] <yinflyin1> lotuspsychje: however .. I am at afternoon ..
[05:44] <KarmicRad> anyone around that can help me install
[05:44] <KarmicRad> I am on an iMac and I am trying to install off of a USB drive
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> !mac | KarmicRad
[05:45] <KarmicRad> I only have the wireless keyboard and mouse
[05:51] <d_ven0m> KarmicRad: are you dual-booting?
[05:51] <KarmicRad> yeah I want to
[05:52] <d_ven0m> KarmicRad: have you already cleared partitions out for ubuntu?
[05:52] <KarmicRad> yeah I am all set but I cant click english and continue becasue of the keyboard and mouse being bluetooth
[05:53] <d_ven0m> That's kind of weird, I've never had problems with that. Ubuntu usually loads the BT driver if it detects them
[05:54] <d_ven0m> Worst case scenario, you'll need to plug in a wired set of devices
[05:54] <KarmicRad> thats what I was thinking but I dont have any
[05:55] <d_ven0m> Does the keyboard at least work? or do you not have access to any peripherals?
[05:55] <KarmicRad> No keyboard no mouse
[05:56] <d_ven0m> Damn you might be beat, unless Ubuntu has remote ssh installation capability
[05:57] <d_ven0m> In any case, just make sure that you have your partitions ready and set up from OS X first
[05:58] <KarmicRad> yeah I did all that
[05:58] <KarmicRad> good to go but I am stuck
[05:59] <d_ven0m> Like I said, I've usually not had problems using BT devices as Linux usually loads the drivers if it detects their use
[05:59] <KarmicRad> thanks bro
[06:00] <KarmicRad> you were of no help :-)
[06:00] <d_ven0m> I suppose you could try to create an image of Ubuntu with BT manually inserted into the kernel
[06:00] <d_ven0m> Sorry :(
[06:00] <KarmicRad> my batteries were real low so perthey shut down or something stupid happened
[06:01] <d_ven0m> Could be, I've had that happen to me before
[06:01] <KarmicRad> thats kind of what I was thinkng...might be a command or something that might do it
[06:01] <KarmicRad> I am going to try new batteries as that is much easier than finding a corded keyboard or mouse in this house
[06:02] <KarmicRad> eithway I will be back and let you know
[06:02] <d_ven0m> Sounds good
[06:09] <thyriaen> i am trying to get redshift to work but it only does so on my main monitor, i am using randr as my method; i got two monitors setup ( with nvidia ) as one screen ( screen 0 ) which includes both physical monitors; my xrandr output is: http://pastebin.com/dMvC9YgE any ideas ?
[06:14] <gaurav42> I need to open one DMS site in Ubuntu that site use activex so how to open that site in Ubuntu it's only working in IE
[06:15] <gaurav42> can I use windows server and all clients Ubuntu and is it work for me ? please help me
[06:18] <anirbaan> please help, I am stuck on boot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24115884/
[06:19] <anirbaan> no idea how efi works.
[06:20] <d_ven0m> anirbaan: You have an efi partition, yes?
[06:21] <anirbaan> d_ven0m: how do I check that I have an efi partition?
[06:22] <baizon> anirbaan: sudo fdisk -l
[06:22] <baizon> anirbaan: or use the ubuntu disk program, or gparted
[06:23] <d_ven0m> anirbaan: you can also use parted as well
[06:24] <d_ven0m> anirbaan: I like to use parted when I am looking for certain partitions, just do "parted /dev/sda" or whatever your desired disk is, and then type "print". It should show you your partitions
[06:25] <gaurav42> can I connect Ubuntu client to windows server and open site from windows server ?
[06:25] <d_ven0m> anirbaan: Now are you multi-booting or are you going for a fresh install?
[06:25] <baizon> gaurav42: with remote desktop for example
[06:26] <anirbaan> d_ven0m: I used systemback to move a system, but when I boot that moved system, I got this issue
[06:27] <anirbaan> d_ven0m: and the parted result is , http://paste.ubuntu.com/24115906/
[06:27] <d_ven0m> anirbaan: I am not familiar with systemback
[06:27] <d_ven0m> anirbaan: It doesn't look like you have an efi partition
[06:28] <d_ven0m> anirbaan: You're using MBR
[06:28] <anirbaan> d_ven0m: dont worry, now it is an installed system with efi grub issue, I think we just need to fix this if possible :)
[06:28] <anirbaan> d_ven0m: so what next? I am to do to fix the grub?
[06:29] <d_ven0m> anirbaan: Is this the only OS on the disk?
[06:29] <d_ven0m> anirbaan: or are you attempting to dual-boot with Windows?
[06:29] <anirbaan> d_ven0m: I am on a live env now as that system is not booting
[06:30] <anirbaan> d_ven0m: no, no dual boot
[06:30] <JFox762> What is the best way to develope a script to switch audio sources with a touch of a button?
[06:30] <JFox762> Essentially, I have a dual monitor setup where my 2nd monitor is a mirrored TV
[06:30] <d_ven0m> anirbaan: Ok, then you can probably forget about EFI altogether and just use the MBR scheme
[06:31] <anirbaan> d_ven0m: how to tell the grub to use mbr while installing?
[06:34] <d_ven0m> anirbaan: You should be able to use "sudo grub-install /dev/sdX" where sdX is your desired drive
[06:34] <Bashing-om> anirbaan: In this case we need to know which partiton contains root . ' df -h ' will tell .
[06:37] <gaurav42> baizon: I need to connect more client of Ubuntu
[06:37] <Raj_> i have an ubuntu 14.04
[06:38] <Raj_> when i starting to installation my screen brightness is very low
[06:38] <anirbaan> d_ven0m: using the traditional method  stuck on this http://paste.ubuntu.com/24115884/
[06:39] <Raj_> brightness not controlled by setting
[06:40] <d_ven0m> anirbaan: output of 'df -h' ?
[06:40] <shanky_> hey can someone tell which is goos VMware or Virtualbox?
[06:41] <anirbaan> d_ven0m: Bashing-om  v
[06:41] <anirbaan> d_ven0m: Bashing-om  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24115969/
[06:41] <Bashing-om> anirbaan: "boot-directory=/mnt/boot" wrong ! you do not have a separate boot partition . we need to identify the correct target .
[06:41] <d_ven0m> shanky_: personal preference, both do virtualization well. I use Virtualbox
[06:43] <anirbaan> Bashing-om: I am rescuing the system of sda1, so I mounted the sda1 to /mnt
[06:44] <d_ven0m> anirbaan: "sudo grub-install /dev/sda --boot-directory=/dev/sda1" assuming your root dir is sda1 I believe
[06:45] <anirbaan> d_ven0m: /dev/sda1 is the partition cant use that without mounting I guess and the boot directory is the /boot :)
[06:46] <d_ven0m> anirbaan: You do not have /boot mounted according to your 'df -h' output
[06:46] <JFox762> What is the best way to develope a script to switch audio sources with a touch of a button?
[06:47] <Bashing-om> anirbaan: Sorry - df -h - from a loveDVD not the output desired in this case . let's try ' sudo fdisk -lu ' to for sure see that sda1 is the target here .
[06:49] <d_ven0m> anirbaan: Assuming your root dir is sda1, and sda1 is mounted on /mnt, and you have a /boot dir on that partition, then /mnt/boot should be correct, however your error output shows grub attempting to install a la EFI, which is not what you want
[06:51] <Bashing-om> d_ven0m: No, assumming that the target is sda1 mounted .. then the command ' sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt /dev/sda ' is correct .
[06:52] <d_ven0m> Bashing-om: grub autodetects /boot on the mounted partition?
[06:53] <d_ven0m> I will admit I have not used grub on mbr in a while, I've been using EFI as of late
[06:57] <anirbaan> d_ven0m: Bashing-om  the fdisk -l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24116013/
[06:58] <Bashing-om> d_ven0m: EFI there you have the advantage over me - :).
[06:59] <chaos505> morning/afternoon/evening haha
[06:59] <chaos505> has anyone experienced this issue with 16/04 LTS
[06:59] <chaos505> openConnection: connect: No such file or directory
[06:59] <chaos505> cannot connect to brltty at :0
[07:00] <d_ven0m> Bashing-om: Well at least we're all part of the same helpful community :)
[07:01] <Bashing-om> anirbaan: I will accept that sda1 holds / . Now UNmount all you have presently mounted , and then remount ' sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ' amd then run ' sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt /dev/sda ; sudo umount /mnt ' . Reboot into the install and we recheck grub !
[07:04] <Bashing-om> d_ven0m: +10 ! .. We are all in this together .
[07:05] <d_ven0m> anirbaan: I am almost certain what Bashing-om said will fix the problem. I had forgotten that grub autodetects the /boot with mbr (I was thinking of EFI where you must specify the EFI directly)
[07:06] <Bashing-om> d_ven0m: Jere we told the gurb installer where it's config file are ( sda1 ) and to install the boot code to the boot sector (sda) .
[07:09] <d_ven0m> Bashing-om: +10 for (most likely) saving the day! :)
[07:09] <d_ven0m> anirbaan: any progress?
[07:10] <Bashing-om> d_ven0m: Well ,, if it had of been EFI .. it can then get hairy .
[07:11] <reisio> irrelephant, heheheh
[07:12] <d_ven0m> Bashing-om: I originally hated EFI, but I actually much prefer it over MBR now. Every OS has it's own folder on the partition which makes it easy to change bootloaders
[07:13] <mundus2018> Is it possible to remove stuff from {} with find so I could change /path/to/file to /path/to
[07:14] <reisio> d_ven0m: easier than?
[07:14] <reisio> mundus2018: what for
[07:14] <Bashing-om> d_ven0m: Yeah , much better platform . And I do prefer GPT partitioning . Just so different :(
[07:15] <d_ven0m> reisio: Yes much easier... well at least in my opinion. But I know everyone has their own preferences and I still know a lot of people who hate EFI
[07:16] <reisio> how's it easier, though...
[07:17] <d_ven0m> Bashing-om: Definitely love GPT, I use many partitions and I hate having to make extended partitions :P
[07:17] <reisio> what do you use many partitions for
[07:18] <d_ven0m> reisio: I find it easier because when I need to work with the bootloaders, all the efi images are saved in their own dir. It's simply a matter of copying the one you want to use to the main EFI Boot dir
[07:19] <d_ven0m> reisio: as opposed to overwriting the MBR constantly
[07:19] <reisio> and that's simpler than selecting something from GRUB's menu?
[07:19] <d_ven0m> reisio: I still use grub with EFI
[07:20] <ducasse> you don't need the grub menu, you can use the boot manager in the efi firmware
[07:21] <reisio> right, and how is that easier than using GRUB? :p
[07:21] <garrettevans> anyone know how to get an xbox one controller working on 14.04
[07:21] <d_ven0m> ducasse: I know, but I just let Grub do it's thing, and it detects Windows efi file anyways, so I just let it chainload if need be
[07:23] <d_ven0m> The efi implementation on my computer is poor, but it's there so it works :/ Grub is a nicer frontend for me
[07:23] <ducasse> reisio: i didn't say it was easier :) i think efi is nice, but that might be because i have a good implementation.
[07:25] <gaurav42> can I connect Ubuntu client to windows server and open website from windows server ?
[07:26] <reisio> gaurav42: what?
[07:27] <reisio> mmm
[07:27] <anirbaan> d_ven0m: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24116106/
[07:28] <gaurav42> I want to open one DMS site that contains activex so some one told me I need to make client Ubuntu and access that DMS from window server then I can open that DMS site
[07:28] <reisio> gaurav42: dms?
[07:28] <gaurav42> yes
[07:28] <gaurav42> just min I send you link
[07:29] <reisio> ducasse: no d_ven0m said it was
[07:30] <anirbaan> reisio: about gaurav42 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dealership_management_system
[07:30] <ducasse> reisio: misread on my part :)
[07:30] <reisio> oh... hard to get excited about that
[07:30] <d_ven0m> anirbaan: I'm not sure why your grub installer keeps trying to use efi... but in any case, don't put the umount command in with the grub-installer in case the installer fails, because you'll end up unmounting the disk regardless
[07:31] <gaurav42> http://www.fsc.va.gov/fsc/dms.asp like this site
[07:31] <d_ven0m> anirbaan: instead of ; use &&
[07:32] <d_ven0m> Bashing-om: any ideas on why grub keeps going for efi installation?
[07:32] <anirbaan> d_ven0m: no luck, I will try a pragmatic method, not smart but lets see :)
[07:33] <Bashing-om> d_ven0m: anirbaan Nope ! .. chroot, purge grub and try again ?
[07:34] <ducasse> grub will do an efi install if /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/ is mounted and contains efi variables
[07:34] <gaurav422> revision: anirbaan is right it's DMS of dealer
[07:35] <sharpish> gaurav42, so you are trying to access a web server on your own network?
[07:36] <d_ven0m> ducasse: this is his output of 'df -h' https://paste.ubuntu.com/24115969/
[07:36] <Bashing-om> ducasse: If one were to boot in EFI mode on a MBR install . would that give the result of the grub installer hunting for a EFI partition ?
[07:36] <gaurav422> no it's company's DMS server I need to configure up than I can connect DMS in windows
[07:37] <d_ven0m> Bashing-om: oh, yes definitely that could be it
[07:37] <ducasse> d_ven0m: it won't show up there, but 'mount' would show it. so would a simple 'ls /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/'
[07:37] <ducasse> Bashing-om: yep
[07:38] <d_ven0m> anirbaan: You didn't run the live image in EFI mode, right?
[07:38] <gaurav422> sharpish: this is the DMS site http://mdwaccess.com/DMSContext/dmscommon/LoginAction.action
[07:38] <anirbaan> d_ven0m: I am afraid that's the case :(
[07:39] <anirbaan> I am trying to create an mbr live-usb and then try
[07:39] <sharpish> gaurav422, i have no idea what dms is, but can you at least ping the ip of the server you want to connect to?
[07:39] <d_ven0m> anirbaan: Ahh. Then you're going to have to reboot into the MBR version
[07:39] <ducasse> anirbaan: just select csm/legacy from bios before boot
[07:39] <gaurav422> yes but site can't work correctly
[07:39] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Ho Kay : http://paste.ubuntu.com/24115906/ cause we ain't got no EFI partition here .{pardon the bad English usage }
[07:40] <anirbaan> d_ven0m: Bashing-om that's likely :)
[07:40] <d_ven0m> anirbaan: That command should work if in MBR mode, assuming all drives remain the same
[07:41] <ducasse> Bashing-om: no, it would only be about 100M or so, fat32
[07:41] <gaurav422> only login into site but data not process in website so it's not working in Ubuntu so I want to make Ubuntu client and open it from windows server for open they site from windows server
[07:41] <sharpish> gaurav422, I was able to connect to the site
[07:42] <anirbaan> ducasse: noted :)
[07:42] <OnceMe> Im trying to upgrade to 16.04 from 14.04 ubt doesnt work The required dependency 'apt (>= 1.0.1ubuntu2.13)' is not installed.
[07:42] <OnceMe> Ive googled a lot and nothing helps
[07:42] <gaurav422> yes that is web base site but it's not working from specific dealer secure IP address
[07:43] <jmdons> hello, can anybody help me with html coding here please ?
[07:43] <gaurav422> I can also able to open it from my mobile
[07:43] <Bashing-om> anirbaan: Reboot in CCSM mode for that USB rather than EFI mode . no need to burn a special USB .
[07:43] <OnceMe> can someone help me
[07:43] <ducasse> jmdons: try #web or ask !alis
[07:44] <d_ven0m> OnceMe: Can you upgrade that far in one shot?
[07:44] <reisio> jmdons: #websites
[07:44] <anirbaan> Bashing-om: from the Bios, right?
[07:44] <jmdons> thank you so much people
[07:44] <jmdons> may god bless you
[07:44] <ducasse> anirbaan: yes, there should be an option to boot in csm/legacy mode
[07:45] <Bashing-om> anirbaan: Right . as to how I can not say . ya want a legacy boot .
[07:45] <sharpish> gaurav422, check https://support.mozilla.org/t5/Fix-slowness-crashing-error/How-to-troubleshoot-the-error-code-quot-SEC-ERROR-UNKNOWN-ISSUER/ta-p/35758
[07:45] <anirbaan> alrighto, be back :)
[07:46] <gaurav422> sharpish: I also ask about this issue in Firefox they told me firefox not suppor activex so site can not run properly
[07:48] <OnceMe> d_ven0m: ah I didnt have important security updates turned no
[07:48] <OnceMe> and recommend updates
[07:48] <OnceMe> dunno why though
[07:49] <untoreh> hello, what to do when ppa-purge does not find the package list for ppa? I google readded the ppa and ran apt update still nothing works ppa-purge is still dumb
[07:49] <EriC^^> untoreh: what's the ppa?
[07:50] <untoreh> oibaf/graphics-drivers
[07:50] <EriC^^> launchpad one?
[07:50] <untoreh> y
[07:50] <EriC^^> it should find it, is the list in /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa..._Packages?
[07:51] <sharpish> gaurav422, check https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1739297
[07:51] <d_ven0m> OnceMe: Ah, I'd definitely turn those on haha
[07:51] <untoreh> yes the lz4 file is present
[07:51] <EriC^^> untoreh: no the _Packages file
[07:51] <sharpish> gaurav422, there may be a workaround?
[07:52] <Bashing-om> untoreh:
[07:52] <ducasse> untoreh: what command are you running?
[07:52] <EriC^^> untoreh: that's what it uses
[07:52] <Bashing-om> untoreh: ' sudo ppa-purge ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers ' ??
[07:53] <untoreh> sudo ppa-purge ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers
[07:53] <untoreh> Updating packages lists
[07:53] <untoreh> PPA to be removed: oibaf graphics-drivers
[07:53] <untoreh> Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: oibaf graphics-drivers
[07:53] <gaurav422> sharpish: workaround mean ?
[07:54] <EriC^^> untoreh: any _Packages file?
[07:55] <untoreh> http://pastebin.com/raw/VaYWdFCR
[07:55] <Bashing-om> untoreh: Pastebin ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' let's make sure the PPA source is there and not commentd out ,
[07:57] <untoreh> it is present
[07:57] <sharpish> gaurav422, it means there might be a way to get it to work, but seemingly not from a native ubuntu install. Perhaps using a virtual machine and installing Windows OS could work. There were a couple suggestions in the link
[07:57] <untoreh> not commented
[07:57] <EriC^^> untoreh: try to unzip it with lz
[07:58] <EriC^^> untoreh: try tar -xvf /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_oibaf_graphics-drivers_ubuntu_dists_zesty_main_binary-*_Packages.lz4
[07:58] <EriC^^> with sudo
[08:01] <untoreh> does lz4 require some package
[08:01] <EriC^^> no idea, why
[08:01] <untoreh> this does not look like a tar archive
[08:02] <EriC^^> try lz /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_oibaf_graphics-drivers_ubuntu_dists_zesty_main_binary-*_Packages.lz4
[08:02] <ducasse> untoreh: liblz4-tool
[08:02] <reisio> lz4, unlz4
[08:02] <reisio> apt-file search, etc.
[08:03] <kkk> hi, how can i generate xorg.conf if i don't have one?
[08:04] <baizon> kkk: http://askubuntu.com/questions/4662/where-is-the-x-org-config-file-how-do-i-configure-x-there
[08:05] <reisio> kkk: what graphics driver are you using?
[08:05] <gaurav422> sharpish: you provide link some one using this of other city as windows server and connect through ubuntu Clint and he can access DMS working fine but how it possible  if Ubuntu can't support activex then how it working in VMware
[08:05] <kkk> HD 6950
[08:06] <ducasse> kkk: you don't need the enntire file, you can just put a section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[08:06] <ducasse> *entire
[08:06] <gaurav422> I am trying to install one windows server and try to connect from Ubuntu client if is it working or not
[08:07] <gaurav422> if it is working then I'll to connect 30 more Ubuntu client
[08:07] <untoreh> so extracted with unlz4, ran ppa-purge again and works
[08:07] <untoreh> tar apparently does not hook into lz4
[08:09] <Bashing-om> untoreh: :) Boy there are some smart people lurking about here .
[08:10] <kkk> Thanks
[08:20] <anirbaan> d_ven0m: Bashing-om http://paste.ubuntu.com/24116314/ after selecting legacy mode
[08:21] <sharpish> gaurav422, because in a virtual machine you are running an operating system seperate from the system you are running on
[08:21] <Bashing-om> anirbaan: Look'n .
[08:25] <anirbaan> what is the /cow ?
[08:27] <ducasse> anirbaan: 'ls /sys/firmware/efi' - does it list anything?
[08:27] <Bashing-om> anirbaan: What are you doing ?? why why why  .. " --boot-directory=/mnt/boot " -- " grub-mkconfig -o /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg " You do not have a /boot partition !
[08:28] <digitalshiba> hola room
[08:28] <digitalshiba> hello shalok
[08:30] <PBI> hello room
[08:30] <digitalshiba> hello pbi
[08:30] <reisio> 'lo
[08:31] <anirbaan> ducasse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24116340/
[08:31] <PBI> i'm looking on a room for the voyager distro, it doesn't exist anymore?
[08:31] <ducasse> anirbaan: ok, good - you're not in efi mode. what are you trying to do?
[08:32] <bazhang> !alis | PBI
[08:32] <cfhowlett> PBI, this is ubuntu support.  vger was never and is not supported here
[08:32] <PBI> ok
[08:32] <anirbaan> Bashing-om: I do not have a /boot partition, yes :)
[08:32] <digitalshiba> alis is very useful :)
[08:32] <bazhang>  /msg alis list voyager PBI
[08:32] <reisio> PBI: this? http://voyagerlive.org/
[08:32] <anirbaan> ducasse: rescuing the grub
[08:33] <ducasse> anirbaan: is this on a fresh install?
[08:34] <anirbaan> ducasse: I transferred a system using systemback may be in efi mode and now stuck on this
[08:34] <ducasse> anirbaan: try this - http://askubuntu.com/questions/74761/how-do-i-manually-install-grub#74764
[08:34] <digitalshiba> voyager is just personalized xubuntu btw pbi
[08:36] <ducasse> anirbaan: you'll also need to install the correct grub packages on the rescued system
[08:37] <Bashing-om> anirbaan: ducasse Now we do not know that the grub.cfg file on sda1 is corrupt /./maybe we are nnow into a chroot to purge and install grub to sda ?? It is well past my bed time and I do need to refrain from support - thinking getting to forced .
[08:37] <anirbaan> Bashing-om: you should and please :)
[08:38] <Bashing-om> anirbaan: I catch up with you tomorrow and see what the status is :)
[08:39] <gaurav42> sharpish: you provide link some one using this of other city as windows server and connect through ubuntu Clint and he can access DMS working fine but how it possible  if Ubuntu can't support activex then how it working in VMware
[08:39] <anirbaan> Bashing-om: sure, wish me luck :)
[08:40] <digitalshiba> anirbaan if all else fails supergrubdisk is helpful
[08:40]  * anirbaan on a reboot
[08:40] <dkdms> gaurav42: what is working in vmware?
[08:40] <digitalshiba> if you just need to recover files
[08:40] <protocol_> hello
[08:40] <digitalshiba> i've thrown in the towel a couple times with a screwed up grub cfg
[08:40] <protocol_> Guys i want to download a android virtual machine in ubuntu
[08:40] <ducasse> gaurav42: the point is that you run windows in vmware (or kvm or virtualbox)
[08:41] <protocol_> how can i do that
[08:41] <digitalshiba> install virtualbox
[08:41] <digitalshiba> download android x86 iso
[08:41] <digitalshiba> install it, done!
[08:42] <reisio> there's an emulator bundled with the dev kit, IIRC
[08:43] <gaurav42> dkdms: ducasse: I want to open one company's site in Ubuntu but Ubuntu can't support activex so I think I should install windows server and connect Ubuntu client to win server for access that DMS site is it possible ?
[08:43] <ducasse> gaurav42: do what was suggested and install windows in a vm
[08:43] <dkdms> yes, it should be possible via remote desktop
[08:44] <digitalshiba> protocol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNgkRhsgzIc
[08:45] <gaurav42> ducasse: I want to run this DMS site in 30 pc and VM is not possible to configure in all client pc so can I make one windows physical server and connect all client to that server in companey ?
[08:46] <digitalshiba> guarav42 you could also give firefox a shot if you haven't already it has limited activex support
[08:46] <ducasse> or try running ie in wine
[08:47] <digitalshiba> gaurav42 http://mozilla-firefox-help.blogspot.com/2013/07/how-to-activate-activex-in-firefox.html
[08:48] <gaurav42> IE not working in wine I try it I also try IE in live on Linux
[08:49] <ducasse> gaurav42: did you try an older ie in wine?
[08:50] <gaurav42> yes I try IE 6 7 and 8 all are crash not working smoodh
[08:50] <ducasse> gaurav42: then you are probably stuck with remote desktop
[08:51] <gaurav42> but how many client I can connect same time in remote desktop ? I need to implement in one companey
[08:52] <digitalshiba> dude if you are supporting 30 users try installing the activex plugin in firefox
[08:52] <gaurav42> windows server can handle more client I think
[08:52] <ducasse> gaurav42: you need to ask in ##windows about that
[08:52] <digitalshiba> like seriously fuck setting up a server for that for access to one website?
[08:53] <cfhowlett> digitalshiba, drop the profanity now.
[08:53] <gaurav42> but I am facing this issue in Ubuntu so I am asking here I can full access DmS In windows
[08:54] <digitalshiba> uh okay
[08:54] <gaurav42> I want to upgrade all 30 pc windows to ubuntu
[08:54] <ducasse> gaurav42: yes, but for how many clients at a time you need yo ask in ##windows
[08:54] <dkdms> gaurav42: "upgrade"? are they windows xp?
[08:54] <digitalshiba> dude i know windows lol
[08:54] <digitalshiba> and if you want to setup a remote desktop even for 30 clients
[08:55] <thyriaen> i think he means upgrade in terms of no longer having to run windows
[08:55] <digitalshiba> if you are using legit licenses it would be expensive for what you're trying to do
[08:55] <alkisg> You can have 30 VMs if you prefer
[08:55] <digitalshiba> 30 vms would be much cheaper and simpler
[08:55] <CrazyPenguin> I have Xubuntu 16.10 installed. It freezes completely sometimes. what could be the problem
[08:55] <CrazyPenguin> ?
[08:55] <alkisg> One for each client... but I don't know why you would need linux then
[08:55] <gaurav42> yes they are in windows XP or 7 and company want to switch to Ubuntu but their DMS site not working so I can't install Ubuntu in all client pc
[08:56] <alkisg> Installation would be simpler, you can have only 1 VM with 30 snapshots over it
[08:56] <CrazyPenguin> is 16.10 not stable enough?
[08:56] <dkdms> it is stable
[08:56] <alkisg> (assuming you have the proper licenses for that)
[08:57] <dkdms> it' s just ephemeral
[08:57] <digitalshiba> here is what i would try man
[08:57] <CrazyPenguin> why does it freeze randomly?
[08:57] <digitalshiba> install the activex plugin for firefox on one ubuntu machine
[08:57] <cfhowlett> CrazyPenguin, you have no details so how would we know??
[08:58] <alkisg> digitalshiba: activex doesn't work in ubuntu, in any browser. There's limited activex support under wine, but he already said it crashes there...
[08:58] <dkdms> opensource videodrives are the root of all evil
[08:58] <dkdms> *drivers
[08:59] <CrazyPenguin> ok. I was just browsing. Had a couple of tabs open in firefox. The whole OS stopped responding suddenly. I have a brand new laptop that runs on Core i3 2Ghz cpu and it has 4 GBs of RAM.
[08:59] <digitalshiba> just a sec going to test something real quick :) i have an idea
[08:59] <CrazyPenguin> I had to manually reset the OS.
[08:59] <ikonia> what do you mean by reset the OS
[08:59] <digitalshiba> also regarding the vm option
[09:00] <alkisg> gaurav42: you could also ask in the #wine channel to see the status of activex support in their latest versions
[09:00] <digitalshiba> you could actually host one windows vm on whatever not necessarily a windows server
[09:00] <CrazyPenguin> I had to press the power button on the laptop to shut it down.
[09:00] <digitalshiba> and edit the reg key that regulates concurrent connections
[09:00] <ikonia> CrazyPenguin: so the hardware hung is what you are saying
[09:01] <digitalshiba> that way you could support 30 users on the cheap
[09:01] <CrazyPenguin> Hardware doesn't have any problem.
[09:01] <CrazyPenguin> I have Mint also installed on the same laptop. I don't face such problems there.
[09:01] <ikonia> CrazyPenguin: how do you know that
[09:01] <gaurav42> alkisg: I install latest wine in Ubuntu and try but my bed luck can't work for me
[09:01] <ikonia> that doesn't mean the hardware doesn't have a problem
[09:01] <ikonia> CrazyPenguin: how many times has ubuntu hung like this ?
[09:02] <CrazyPenguin> at least 4 or 5 times.
[09:02] <ikonia> always in the same situation ?
[09:02] <ikonia> or different things happening
[09:02] <CrazyPenguin> is it because it is 16.10?
[09:02] <ikonia> no
[09:02] <ikonia> answer the question
[09:02] <CrazyPenguin> which question?
[09:03] <CrazyPenguin> ok. More often when I am browsing.
[09:03] <dkdms> CrazyPenguin: what is your video hardware and what video driver do you use?
[09:03] <ikonia> CrazyPenguin: is firefox the one ubuntu supplied or have you added any third party repos/software to ubuntu at all
[09:03] <CrazyPenguin> I don't know.
[09:03] <CrazyPenguin> I have not added anything.
[09:04] <alkisg> gaurav42: ask in #wine, they might e.g. tell you that there's commercial support that from codeweavers
[09:04] <CrazyPenguin> I install packages from Ubuntu repos only
[09:04] <ikonia> actually, I've just rembered who you are CrazyPenguin, sorry, I'm not going to take this forward, someone else in the channel can
[09:04] <bazhang> #winehq
[09:05] <CrazyPenguin> this is really funny. ikonia. why? what happened?
[09:05] <bazhang> alkisg, /msg ubottu appdb
[09:05] <alkisg> (11:00:37 πμ) digitalshiba: and edit the reg key that regulates concurrent connections ==> that's illegal, you shouldn't be saying such things here
[09:05] <ikonia> CrazyPenguin: as I've told you before, I don't work with liars, so I'll have to back away from this,
[09:05]  * alkisg waves
[09:05] <CrazyPenguin> what serious crime have I done?
[09:06] <CrazyPenguin> did I blow up the twin towers?
[09:06] <ikonia> CrazyPenguin: I don't want to discuss this with you, but you know you have wasted my time before with lies, and I've told you before I no longer wish to help you
[09:06] <ikonia> CrazyPenguin: that comment is not acceptable
[09:06] <digitalshiba> that isn't illegal
[09:06] <digitalshiba> we're talking about modifing properties of an operating system that i'm assuming he has a license for
[09:07] <digitalshiba> not a server operating system
[09:07] <digitalshiba> on a server it would be illegal
[09:07] <digitalshiba> maybe a grey area :)
[09:07] <ikonia> digitalshiba: the license for server and desktop are the same
[09:07] <ikonia> no grey area,
[09:08] <digitalshiba> okay sorry
[09:08] <KarmicRad> ANyone know a way to install with a wireless keyboard and mouse on a mac
[09:08] <digitalshiba> i'll be sure and make a disclaimer next time
[09:08] <ducasse> digitalshiba: no, just don't say it at all next time
[09:11] <digitalshiba> if you're still here guy and you have an extra or old server laying around
[09:12] <digitalshiba> you could install proxmox on it and legally spin up vms on that
[09:12] <digitalshiba> if resources come into play
[09:13] <digitalshiba> would also be easier to manage imo and maybe less confusing for users
[09:14] <mendji> hallo
[09:14] <digitalshiba> hola
[09:14] <mendji> ich bin mendji
[09:15] <bazhang> !de | mendji
[09:15] <ducasse> !de | mendji
[09:15] <mendji> okay
[09:15] <mendji> thank you
[09:16] <digitalshiba> so what terminal emulator do you guys use?
[09:16] <d_ven0m> KarmicRad: I guess you didn't have any luck :P
[09:16] <digitalshiba> is there anything better than byobu?
[09:17] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: xfce-terminal since I use xfce as my de
[09:18] <digitalshiba> nice :) i like it
[09:18] <KarmicRad> d_ven0m: no luck homeboy
[09:19] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: although I am also a fan of just the plain ol' linux term :)
[09:19] <d_ven0m> KarmicRad: damn
[09:19] <digitalshiba> oh yeah nothing beats the basics sometimes :)
[09:20] <digitalshiba> i'm thinking about giving terminology a shot but it looks a little busy for me, sometimes I just want plain bash
[09:21] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: I haven't tried many terminal emulators, I'm more interested in shells. I've been wanting to try zsh
[09:22] <d_ven0m> KarmicRad: Do you have another box?
[09:23] <ducasse> byobu is not actually a terminal emulator, it is a terminal multiplexer. (or rather, a frontend for such)
[09:23] <digitalshiba> oic d_ven0m something that has been on my plate for a while too
[09:25] <digitalshiba> ducasse i wasn't aware of that, really starting to like it though
[09:26] <ducasse> digitalshiba: it's a frontend to tmux and screen, personally i prefer using tmux directly.
[09:27] <digitalshiba> oic
[09:27] <digitalshiba> ducasse wow it is basically tmux it looks like
[09:27] <d_ven0m> I personally use tmux
[09:27] <ikonia> digitalshiba: you'll find it easier to interact with the channel if you talk in clear english, rather than text speak, like "oic"
[09:27] <KarmicRad> d_ven0m: no...I guess I will just have to wait till i find a USB keyboard or mouse
[09:29] <digitalshiba> okay i'll keep that in mind ikonia
[09:29] <ducasse> d_ven0m: byobu just adds a setup with keybindings etc. as i prefer setting those myself i never use it.
[09:30] <d_ven0m> ducasse: I thought tmux already had keybindings?
[09:30] <nicolo> ciao
[09:30] <nicolo> !list
[09:31] <digitalshiba> i'm glad i asked you guys tmux looks better even keybinding wise (default anyways)
[09:31] <ducasse> d_ven0m: yes, byobu adds a custom setup with docs on how to use them.
[09:31] <digitalshiba> byobu is difficult at times because it switch between a combination of shift F* ctrl F* alt F*
[09:31] <digitalshiba> which can be confusing
[09:50] <Emn> hi
[09:52] <ed___> good day
[09:52] <ed___> can anybody help with  	Ubuntu Linux 14.04.3?
[09:53] <cfhowlett> !ask | ed___
[09:56] <shivamg11000> hello new to ubuntu . unable to connect to wifi. no wifi networks showing. Wifi shows and connects in windows
[09:56] <ed___> just now updated packeges for ubuntu server  14.04.3 and now apache and mariadb is not launching properly.
[09:57] <cfhowlett> current version should be 14.04.5 - sudo apt-get dist-upgrade        will do the job
[09:57] <ed___> netstat shows that apache and mysqld are binding to tcp6 interface only, so no tcp4
[10:00] <dx486> shivamg11000, what is the output of lspci | grep Network
[10:01] <shivamg11000> 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
[10:02] <dx486> shivamg11000, this may be helpful: https://askubuntu.com/questions/517772/lenovo-e540-rtl8723be-wifi-not-working#580201
[10:03] <nicolo> ciao
[10:03] <nicolo> !list
[10:04] <mvvvv> shivamg11000, you should check if you don't have a broken update package
[10:04] <nicolo> ciao
[10:04] <nicolo> !list
[10:04] <shivamg11000> how will i check that
[10:04] <ducasse> nicolo: stop that
[10:04] <MonkeyDust> !it
[10:05] <mvvvv> shivamg11000, sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[10:06] <ducasse> shivamg11000: your problem is that that chipset is known to be problematic, realtek has never made a decent product.
[10:06] <shivamg11000> mvvvv: it says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not  upgraded
[10:07] <cfhowlett> shivamg11000, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:07] <shivamg11000> ducasse:whats the solution
[10:07] <ducasse> shivamg11000: get a better one
[10:07] <shivamg11000> already i have  bought a new laptop
[10:07] <shivamg11000> 2 weeks old
[10:08] <shivamg11000> cfhowlett : same thing all  0
[10:08] <cfhowlett> shivamg11000, did the wifi ever work?
[10:09] <shivamg11000> it works and connects in  windows 10 home
[10:09] <cfhowlett> did it ever work in ubuntu?
[10:09] <shivamg11000> it works but does not shows any wifi network to connect in ubuntu
[10:10] <shivamg11000> i can crate a hotspot
[10:10] <mvvvv> shivamg11000, sudo dpkg -i firmware-realtek_0.43_all.deb
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> shivamg11000  does this command show someting useful    iwlist ap
[10:12] <shivamg11000> mvvvv: It says no such file or directory
[10:13] <shivamg11000> MonkeyDust: It says Interface doesn't have a list of Peers in lo, enp1s0,wlo1,enp0s20fou3
[10:14] <digitalshiba> shivamg11000 in terminal type this
[10:14] <digitalshiba> lspci -nn -d 10ec:
[10:15] <BlooperDlooper> hello, um, I am trying to forward X11 via ssh between two ubuntu boxes.
[10:15] <digitalshiba> then use that output to search for a suitable debian driver
[10:15] <digitalshiba> what that does is list your realtek wireless card, regardless you're going to have a fun time
[10:16] <BlooperDlooper> I run ssh -CX<EMAIL_ADDRESS>on my client and it connects, and I run `google-chrome' but Chrome then opens on my server machine in the X11 session running on there! Am I doing something stupid?
[10:16] <digitalshiba> wifi can be a pain on linux at times no matter the distro
[10:16] <d_ven0m> So I downloaded a gzipped tarball of a library I want to use, but after unzipping it, the folder that was created I am unable to access. It has permissions of 'drwx--S---', with a user of 130, and group of 144. What does this mean?
[10:16] <dx486> shivamg11000, http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-trusty-realtek.html
[10:17] <shivamg11000> exit
[10:18] <BlooperDlooper> I want to be able to expose my PC to the net and X11 forward my gui to a university computer, potentially
[10:18] <BlooperDlooper> nvm, seems google chrome can only run on one X session at a time...
[10:19] <ducasse> BlooperDlooper: if you want to access your full gui, use vnc or something similar
[10:19] <digitalshiba> d_ven0m dude i would just chmod +x
[10:20] <digitalshiba> or chmod 777 that file
[10:20] <digitalshiba> that user and group restriction there is no way of telling exactly what it is just re-write the permissions so you can access the file
[10:21] <digitalshiba> that i know of anyways*, a gid can be between 0 and 32k
[10:21] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: Okay I did that, I can now cd into the dir but cannot ls it. The S bit has now gone lowercase
[10:22] <geirha> d_ven0m: The S means the setgid bit is set, but without the execute bit
[10:22] <geirha> d_ven0m: You shouldn't have extracted the tar as root in the first place
[10:23] <anddam> d_ven0m: likely you kept permissions while untarring, like tar -p
[10:23] <d_ven0m> geirha: I thought I had to since I normally cannot do things inside of /usr/local without using sudo
[10:23] <anddam> geirha: oh that too
[10:23] <anddam> d_ven0m: you can extract as regular user, and put thing in place with su
[10:24] <anddam> things*
[10:24] <geirha> s/su/sudo/
[10:24] <digitalshiba> ^this
[10:24] <anddam> I meant superuser, not su the command
[10:24] <d_ven0m> anddam: ah ok
[10:24] <anddam> but yes, I think we're all on the same page here
[10:24] <d_ven0m> anddam: I'll try re-extracting
[10:25] <anddam> oh sh*t, I punched the 4TB external HDD
[10:25] <anddam> after 20 years of failing drives I still have a sacred terror of "movable" mechanical disks
[10:26] <digitalshiba> lol
[10:26] <anddam> deep inside, I know punching them don't make them happy
[10:26] <digitalshiba> i dropped my external like 4ft the otherday onto a hard office floor
[10:26] <anddam> speaking of which, is there any advantage (like CPU-wise) in using NFS over ssh for deja-dup backup?
[10:26] <digitalshiba> keeps on trucking like nothing ever happened :)
[10:27] <d_ven0m> anddam: same, I recently just lost the last 7 years of my life because of a mechanical HDD
[10:27] <anddam> hope so, I need to get a twin drive to duplicate this one
[10:27] <anddam> it's running solo in a 2-bays box
[10:27] <anddam> need to get a twin and put zfs there
[10:27] <d_ven0m> anddam: I'm hoping to get to a forensic HDD specialist to attempt recovery of anything
[10:28] <digitalshiba> dude just use atopsy
[10:28] <digitalshiba> autopsy*
[10:28] <d_ven0m> anddam: I has thus far refrained from powering it up to prevent the platters from moving at all but unless I can get someone to repair some data from the plates I'm screwed
[10:29] <digitalshiba> like how wrecked is it?
[10:29] <d_ven0m> dropped 3 ft onto tile wrecked
[10:29] <digitalshiba> when you pick it up does it make 'tick' noises?
[10:29] <d_ven0m> yeah it did when I attempted to boot it once
[10:29] <d_ven0m> I immediately killed power and haven't touched it since
[10:30] <anddam> d_ven0m: it depends how valuable the data are
[10:30] <d_ven0m> I honestly don't have much hope
[10:30] <digitalshiba> one trick for recovery you can try is freeze it first
[10:30] <anddam> but IIRC a HDD recover service will cost under 1000 $
[10:30] <digitalshiba> then attempt a backup using a forensic analysis tool
[10:30] <anddam> ranging in the span of a several hundreds
[10:31] <d_ven0m> I need someone to repair it
[10:31] <d_ven0m> The drive is encrypted
[10:31] <anddam> well they can extract the block content of the platters, I figure
[10:31] <anddam> what kind of encryption is it?
[10:31] <digitalshiba> that def complicates things
[10:32] <anddam> is it builtin or at the OS level?
[10:32] <d_ven0m> which makes me think it might not be possible to get the data back since loss of data with encryption makes it less likely to get anything back
[10:32] <anddam> fs-level, it is
[10:32] <anddam> d_ven0m: again, it depends how valuable the data are for you
[10:32] <digitalshiba> yeah dude something that is encrypted restoring it is a pain
[10:32] <d_ven0m> OS-level I believe and valuable would be subjective
[10:33] <d_ven0m> It was OS X's drive encryption, whatever technology that is
[10:33] <digitalshiba> if you can keep it very cold for an extended amount of time and access it using autopsy then it might be recoverable
[10:34] <d_ven0m> I would pay for a forensic repair
[10:34] <digitalshiba> you could even use diskdrill (which may give you results quicker) maybe not as effective
[10:34] <digitalshiba> all a forensic company will do is use something like autopsy man
[10:34] <d_ven0m> I don't want to attempt to power it because I'm afraid the platters will get even more corrupted
[10:34] <digitalshiba> imo its better than what the cops use which is generally osf
[10:35] <digitalshiba> bulk extractor works well too for forensic dives but is useless if it is encrypted
[10:36] <dkdms> d_ven0m: you can use fakeroot to get the reasonable permissions
[10:36] <digitalshiba> have you taken a look inside to see if anything is physically broken?
[10:36] <d_ven0m> I don't have experience opening drives so I haven't. I'm worried I'll do more damage than anything
[10:37] <digitalshiba> if the head is just kind of coasting and occasionally hitting a platter freezing the drive tightens things up :)
[10:37] <digitalshiba> kind of quick and dirty but it works
[10:38] <d_ven0m> I have no idea what it is, I do remember the one time I tried to start it back up it was "ticking"
[10:38] <digitalshiba> okay probably the head skipping usually what that ticking is
[10:38] <d_ven0m> It was also attempting to spool up but would slow back down and repeat as well
[10:38] <digitalshiba> either skipping or the arm is having issues
[10:39] <d_ven0m> I didn't leave it long because I was afraid continuing to let it run would cause more corruption
[10:39] <digitalshiba> ah okay if its doing that its probably the arm the actual data is probably fine
[10:40] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: What would be the best course of action then?
[10:41] <digitalshiba> well...depends on if you feel like opening it up
[10:42] <digitalshiba> here is an exact example of what I think might be going on
[10:42] <digitalshiba> a misaligned head
[10:42] <digitalshiba> or stuck head
[10:42] <d_ven0m> For me, that would depend on how dangerous it would be to do... e.g. how easy it would be to further damage or corrupt the data any more than it currently could be
[10:42] <digitalshiba> https://youtu.be/F5Y7BniaRXg?t=300
[10:44] <digitalshiba> thats fairly difficult to determine tbh if you are careful though I think it would be minimal at best
[10:44] <digitalshiba> the only thing a recovery company can do is essentially what you can learn in a few youtube videos
[10:45] <hackr3> someone know how to make windows control in the right side?
[10:45] <d_ven0m> haha literally looks exactly like my HDD
[10:45] <digitalshiba> i do have a cert from adata in forensic analysis
[10:45] <ATF> I'm trying to install 16.04 LTS from DVD. I get as far as the inatll screen, selected inatll and it stops after a certain period (it gets as far as started wpa_supplicant  if that's relevant). Any ideas on what is going wrong? I'm intalling on Dell Inpiron 15
[10:46] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: really? That's awesome!
[10:46] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: now the thing is I don't have the MBP that the HDD is from, am I going to have issues if I plug that into the SATA port of my desktop?
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> ATF  wpa is wifi relate ... are you installing with cable, or wireless
[10:47] <digitalshiba> yeah we did all kinds of cool stuff for that cert :)
[10:48] <ATF> from DVD - it is WiFi not cable
[10:48] <digitalshiba> if its a sata drive you shouldn't have any issue
[10:48] <digitalshiba> doesn't matter what type of device it came from
[10:48] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: OS X won't have an issue booting?
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> digitalshiba  first use a cable to install ubuntu, it's faster and easier than wifi ... then configure wifi
[10:49] <ATF> does it need internet access if I'm unstalling from CD?
[10:50] <digitalshiba> oh i'm not saying boot it, im saying to recover the contents off of the drive
[10:50] <digitalshiba> like if you were going to plug it in, after you check it out and wanted to transfer the contents to another drive
[10:51] <digitalshiba> thats what i thought you were suggesting, if you do not have the laptop it came out of depending on the type of encryption that maybe an issue
[10:51] <digitalshiba> i'm not too familiar with macbooks
[10:51] <clissold345> ATF, no.
[10:51] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: assuming I could clone it, how would I go about recovering the data?
[10:52] <digitalshiba> if you wanted to clone the drive, assuming you could actually get it to a point to where it is readable
[10:52] <digitalshiba> you would then mount the drive and create an image of it using something like autopsy
[10:53] <digitalshiba> then you could take that image and put it on a physical machine or even a mac os virtual machine and provided you know the encryption key
[10:53] <digitalshiba> then hopefully (assuming a successful image) you could access what was on the drive
[10:53] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: the decryption is done by logging in to the account
[10:54] <digitalshiba> ideally though if you get your drive to a working state, you just want it powered on long enough to make an image of it
[10:54] <digitalshiba> and work with that
[10:54] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: ah so I guess my first move is to open this drive
[10:55] <digitalshiba> if that fails then wash rinse repeat, and okay then if it is os encrypted then try moving forward :)
[10:55] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: here I go! (the drive and tools are in front of me right now) wish me luck lol
[10:55] <digitalshiba> and its totally up to you but, you could spend the money or go for it
[10:55] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: by moving forward, do you mean just forget about the data lmao
[10:56] <digitalshiba> all depends on how critical the data is
[10:56] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: I mean I have already gone through the greiving process xD
[10:56] <srikanth> ls
[10:56] <digitalshiba> well if you've already counted it as a loss then you can at least try i suppose :)
[10:56] <Guest96477> Rohi@1993
[10:57] <digitalshiba> just be careful make sure you have read a few things before you make an actual attempt
[10:57] <Guest96477> hi
[10:57] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: haha I mean I've kinda tried to imagine it's gone to prepare for the worst but if I can recover it I would be so happy you have no idea
[10:58] <digitalshiba> have a full plan before hand, hard drive restoration and forensics is fairly methodical, its not rocket science though by any means
[10:58] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: any suggestions?
[10:58] <digitalshiba> check out some videos on youtube first
[10:58] <digitalshiba> just on physical hard drive repair
[10:59] <digitalshiba> also check out a few things on how to use autopsy which is available for free on sourceforge
[10:59] <digitalshiba> you can also use diskdrill on windows for free (much simpler to use than autopsy)
[11:00] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: I might sound really dumb right now, but can I hotplug the drive into a SATA port on my desktop
[11:00] <digitalshiba> make sure you have a clean environment
[11:00] <digitalshiba> last thing that i would try doing if I were you and if you don't have the setting enabled in your bios or the feature on your mb then no
[11:01] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: ok so then I'll not do that haha
[11:01] <digitalshiba> haha yeah best not to :)
[11:02] <digitalshiba> you could also just spend $12 on one of these https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-SATA-Drive-Adapter-Cable/dp/B00HJZJI84/ref=pd_lpo_147_lp_t_3/151-9415199-2883829?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=R13RFR5CK5QCJXGSFNPE
[11:02] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: damn never mind don't have the right bit size :(((
[11:03] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: literally one size off
[11:03] <digitalshiba> ah man that sucks :/
[11:04] <digitalshiba> and that adpater is for ssd btw but they make one for normal hard drives im tired though and lazy lol
[11:04] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: How did you go about getting a HDD certificate?
[11:04] <digitalshiba> its pretty late here think im going to call it quits
[11:05] <digitalshiba> it was part of my degree
[11:05] <digitalshiba> we had a whole quarter that was just forensic analysis
[11:05] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: What degree if you don't mind me asking? I know you're tired I don't want to keep you up
[11:06] <digitalshiba> oh no your fine :)
[11:06] <digitalshiba> infosec
[11:07] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: Oh, cool! Does that differ from cybersec?
[11:08] <digitalshiba> no same thing, we covered pentesting, recon, social engineering
[11:08] <digitalshiba> pretty fun :) all depends on where you let it take you though
[11:08] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: was that in a BS degree or MS?
[11:08] <digitalshiba> my focus has been on networking for the most part but, i would like to focus more on security
[11:09] <digitalshiba> it was an associates at a technical college actually
[11:09] <d_ven0m> wow that's amazing!
[11:10] <d_ven0m> I can't wait to go to school
[11:10] <aruns> Hi, running Ubuntu 16.04 with VirtualBox 5.1.12r112440 and Vagrant 1.9.1. Trying to create a VM using Vagrant for one of our work repos, as it is using a Laravel Homestead image, and getting the following error message: https://bpaste.net/show/0444196bb8e2
[11:10] <digitalshiba> yeah it was a really good school :) i've been through tech programs before and that place was really impressive
[11:11] <digitalshiba> learned a lot, had great professors and really showed me the value in good instructors
[11:11] <digitalshiba> a university name or w/e doesn't matter
[11:11] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: literally nothing better than when your teachers are great at what they do and can teach well
[11:11] <aruns> My shell is Fish, version 2.5.
[11:12] <gde33> in system monitor I have only an irc process using 0-1% of the cpu, if I go to cpu history the 4 cores are being used for 80%
[11:12] <aruns> Wondering if anyone has any tips? I have had no issues before creating a VM from that work repo before, even when I had the same VirtualBox / Vagrant versions.
[11:12] <gde33> the cpu history in the resources tab of the system monitor
[11:13] <aruns> I tried deleting the repo VM that was initialised but not fully built from VirtualBox to see if it was some sort of conflict.
[11:13] <aruns> But that hasn't worked.
[11:13] <gde33> psensor says my cpu cores are now at 90 celcius
[11:13] <digitalshiba> very true :)
[11:13] <elke> test
[11:14] <aruns> Not sure if maybe I have to downgrade my version of Vagrant.
[11:14] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: Hey, well I know you're probably tired so I'm going to let you go... but I really enjoyed talking with you and all the advice you gave was excellent :)
[11:14] <d_ven0m> Probably gonna get some sleep myself
[11:15] <gde33> anyone know what could be consuming so much cpu without showing in the system monitor?
[11:15] <digitalshiba> d_ven0m hey man its been fun gn :)
[11:15] <d_ven0m> digitalshiba: Hope to talk to you again soon :) gn
[11:19] <blue_h4wk> Someone ?
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> gde33  start with     htop
[11:20] <gde33> MonkeyDust: I should install that?
[11:20] <blue_h4wk> does someone know where to find a good tutorial to begin with linux ?
[11:20] <gde33> ok
[11:22] <cdidd> Does anybody know if Chromium in repos built with rlz identifier or not?
[11:25] <gde33> MonkeyDust: it showed a lot of java entries, after shutting down my yacy deamon things went back to normal. The strange thing is that there use to be an entry in the system monitor eating up cpu when yacy was running.
[11:26] <gde33> I think it was called Java
[11:27] <gde33> o well, ill just use htop from now on. Thanks for the emergency help :)
[11:32] <gde33> lol it was at 93 °C
[11:32] <aruns> Hello?
[11:33] <aruns> Need help with my VirtualBox question I posted a few minutes ago.
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> aruns  hit the up arrow to repeat the questio
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> n
[11:38] <aruns> Hi, running Ubuntu 16.04 with VirtualBox 5.1.12r112440 and Vagrant 1.9.1. Trying to create a VM using Vagrant for one of our work repos, as it is using a Laravel Homestead image, and getting the following error message: https://bpaste.net/show/0444196bb8e2
[11:38] <aruns> My shell is Fish, version 2.5.
[11:38] <aruns> I seem to need the vboxnetadp and vboxnetflt kernel modules but don't seem to have these installed atm.
[11:40] <aruns> Ah looks like I might need to install virtualbox-host-dkms.
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> aruns  sudo apt-get install dkms; sudo modprobe vboxdrv;sudo modprobe vboxnetflt
[11:41] <aruns> Yep it might be working now =D
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> ok
[11:41] <aruns> MonkeyDust: Yeah, vboxdrv is already loaded
[11:41] <aruns> And I ran sudo apt-get install virtualbox-dkms
[11:42] <aruns> Should be OK now.
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:52] <gde33> since last reboot (after a bunch of updates) my sound settings try to use digital output (s/pdif) in stead of line out
[11:52] <gde33> but I have no sound now
[11:59] <clissold345> !sound | gde33
[12:00] <gde33> sound preferences lacks the feature
[12:02] <clissold345> gde33, Sound Settings (in 16.04).
[12:02] <gde33> yes
[12:03] <gde33> ohh lol I didn't get the gui
[12:03] <gde33> just selecting it did the trick
[12:09] <sanuptpm> mm
[12:10] <sanuptpm> #oprnstack
[12:10] <sanuptpm> #openstack
[12:19] <JFox762> I'm having trouble joining the #ubuntu-offtopic chan
[12:19] <JFox762> "Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services"
[12:19] <llutz> !register | JFox762
[12:23] <hugo_> hi
[12:25] <nablung> hi all
[12:26] <sjc> hi all
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> hi all
[12:31] <BluesKaj> hey MonkeyDust
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> hi BluesKaj
[12:33] <nordwind___> quit
[12:33] <nordwind___> ups
[12:34] <Grimsley> anyone running across issues when trying to install mscore fonts recently ?
[12:34] <iamfahad> Yeah me ...
[12:34] <nablung> installed yesterday without errors
[12:35] <Grimsley> I had to purge the temp. install and then grab the deb and install manually to get things working
[12:35] <iamfahad> ok...
[12:35] <iamfahad> Will try
[12:36] <Grimsley> went through this method - http://askubuntu.com/questions/829247/cannot-install-the-package-ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[12:37] <Grimsley> first real "huh?" moment I've had in a while, seems like an issue with apt (whch has been reported)
[12:41] <josef_> hallo ?
[12:41] <josef_> ist da wer
[12:42] <llutz> !de | josef_
[13:07] <un9se0r> hi
[13:14] <WeiJunLi> i had my qemu vm runnning after reboot got this error and now isn't booting properly. -> http://dpaste.com/3D2AVYT
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> WeiJunLi  qemu has its own channel : #qemu
[13:34] <__Myst__> Hi, I'm on Ubuntu LTS 16.04 and I would like to install Clang 4.0, what is the best way to go about this?
[13:35] <ppf> __Myst__: compile from source
[13:35] <ppf> clang 4 isn't released, it's still only RC3
[13:36] <__Myst__> ppf: Does that mean that if I want to use it it's possible I'll encounter some bugs or since it's a RC it's pretty much 100%?
[13:36] <mvvvv> __Myst__, Or upgrade ubuntu to the next zesty version. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=clang-4.0
[13:37] <__Myst__> mvvvv: How?
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> !zesty
[13:39] <mvvvv> __Myst__, I'm not sure this is a good idea. As you prefer LTS version.
[13:39] <ppf> so ... install a release candidate to get another release candidate?
[13:39] <ppf> __Myst__: it's "pretty much" 100%
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> __Myst__   irc://irc.oftc.net/llvm
[13:42] <ppf> __Myst__: sylvestre already uploaded it to debian, so you can probably pick up the package from there
[13:43] <ppf> (rc3 i mean)
[13:43] <ppf> hasn't trickled back into ubuntu yet, apparently
[13:46] <ppf> MonkeyDust: the channel is usually rather barren over the weekend and during CET daytime
[13:46] <chris___> hello?
[13:47] <chris___> hi?
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> chris___  this is the ubuntu support channel, ask your ubuntu question
[13:48] <chris___> alright, this may take a moment to type Im a little bad at it
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> chris___  keep it in one line
[13:49] <WeiJunLi> anyone who uses qemu vm that can help me?
[13:49] <WeiJunLi> qemu # is dea.d
[13:49] <anddam> in rhythmbox is there a way to delete a meta tag rather than having it as "Unkown"
[13:50] <anddam> btw does "unkown" means it's not set at all? i.e. is it a representation issue and the metadata isn't actually there?
[13:50] <chris___> I'm installing ubuntu 16.04, onto a new win10 laptop, i can get it to boot but after i make a selection the screen flashes and goe black
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> anddam  i'm not familiar with rhythmbox, but there's EasyTag and PuddleTag
[13:52] <chris___> doesnt matter if i choose try ubuntu or install ubuntu, i get a split second with a _ in the top corner and then it goes black
[13:52] <anddam> MonkeyDust: easytag requires an UbuntuOne account to install, never met such a requirement before…
[13:52] <anddam> that's an odd feeling
[13:53] <chris___> the back light goes on and off a few times then it just stops
[13:53] <anddam> chris___: try a non quiet boot and see where it hangs
[13:53] <chris___> how do i do that?
[13:54] <anddam> from what you wrote I figure you reach grub menu, edit one of the entries and remote the quiet option
[13:55] <anddam> there are ey hints in the menu, also someone is will likely give more detailed info
[13:57] <anddam> s/ ey/ key/
[13:59] <__Myst__> mvvvv: Honestly I only have LTS because it's the first version I saw :)
[13:59] <masos> hiya guys. why is an Ubuntu 16.10 LiveUSB bootable on one PC and non-bootable on another?
[13:59] <mvvvv> __Myst__, If you use 17.10 you'll have a big update every 6 months
[14:00] <anddam> MonkeyDust: btw using CLI didn't require an UbuntuOne account, while using Ubuntu Software did
[14:00] <__Myst__> mvvvv: Is that an objectively bad thing?
[14:00] <masos> disabled Secure Boot on the second PC, still no luck
[14:01] <masos> Fast Boot disabled, too
[14:01] <mvvvv> __Myst__, this can be annoying as some softwares can change dramatically
[14:02] <masos> I also wanted to enable Legacy Mode on the second PC, but there is no such an option in its UEFI
[14:04] <ikonia> masos: how does it fail
[14:04] <ikonia> saying "non-bootable" doesn't help
[14:04] <BluesKaj> most UEFIs have a legacy mode unless it's BIOS only
[14:05] <masos> BluesKaj: not the case, because it shows itself that it's UEFI
[14:05] <ikonia> masos: how does it fail
[14:06] <anddam> MonkeyDust: oh EasyTag is bad
[14:06] <__Myst__> mvvvv: I'm one who likes having the latest version of everything.. Should I switch to something with a rolling release?
[14:06] <mvvvv> __Myst__, If you want to upgrade, follow "Upgrading from Ubuntu 16.10" procedure :https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes
[14:06] <ikonia> __Myst__: you will fail with everything then
[14:07] <__Myst__> ikonia: why?
[14:07] <ikonia> __Myst__: your machine will be a constant rolling update of instability
[14:07] <ikonia> ubuntu is not the distribution for you
[14:07] <masos> ikonia: if I say non-bootable, I mean it acts like it. when using normal boot sequence in order "USB > Hard Drive", it boots from the hard drive. when trying to select boot override in UEFI, it just flashes black briefly and returns back to UEFI
[14:07] <mvvvv> ikonia, bullshit
[14:07] <ikonia> mvvvv: please don't swear
[14:07] <ikonia> mvvvv: if you can disagree without bad language, please do so
[14:08] <BluesKaj> masos, does it have a BIOS Back Flash in Configuration? if so enable it
[14:08] <masos> the same thing happens if there is just a couple of files on the USB and it was not created as bootable
[14:08] <masos> BluesKaj: okay, I'll try, brb
[14:11] <__Myst__> I don't have update-manager?
[14:12] <ikonia> __Myst__: what is your atual goal here
[14:12] <masos> nah, not brb, I'll actually be able to try that in ~30 mins
[14:12] <ikonia> __Myst__: if it's bleeding edge packages all the time, ubuntu is not the right distro for you
[14:13] <mvvvv> __Myst__, The packages are official release (except for now as zesty it's a Release candidate)
[14:14] <hambloaten> hello folks.  is there an option in dovecot to slow down user requests on the network side of things?  example:  i want imap mailbox fetches to be under 100kbps or something similar ?
[14:14] <ignacio> o/
[14:14] <kkunji> What does one use to address an NFS drive with dd or the like?  For a regular drive /dev/sda1   I'm looking for the equivalent for an NFS drive.
[14:16] <ppf> kkunji: the drive is mounted  to some folder in your fs
[14:16] <ikonia> hambloaten: I don't think there is a throttle, there is a max fetch size, but I think thats the overall size of the request
[14:16] <kkunji> ppf: Yeah, but I need to read it as a block device
[14:17] <ikonia> kkunji: no you dno't
[14:17] <ikonia> kkunji: what exactly are you trying to do
[14:17] <ikonia> don't
[14:17] <hambloaten> ikonia i can maybe tweak max fetch size.  do you know the string off hand ?
[14:17] <hendrickscn> hello
[14:17] <ikonia> hambloaten: I don't know, the #dovecot guys will though
[14:17] <kkunji> ikonia: I'm trying to recover an accidentally overwritten script T.T
[14:17] <ppf> kkunji: it's not a block device
[14:17] <ppf> no way to read it as one
[14:17] <ikonia> kkunji: ok ? so why are you using dd and why do you need it to be a block device
[14:18] <hambloaten> ikonia  thanks. i'll try that and try rtfm performence pages too. thx
[14:18] <ikonia> hambloaten: there is a couple of great chapters in the oreilly dovecot book
[14:18] <kkunji> ikonia: I'm using grep actually, but examples are using e.g. /dev/sda1  if I give the folder I don't think it will find it, no?
[14:19] <ikonia> kkunji: grep will work on a file system
[14:19] <ikonia> kkunji: grep will not work on a block device
[14:19] <ikonia> kkunji: so what you are saying is not making sense
[14:19] <kkunji> ikonia: grep -i -a -B100 -A100 'parent_path' /dev/sda1      is the example that I'm seeing.
[14:20] <r3muxd> I'm trying to install Kubuntu, but about 5 seconds after the resolution changes, it crashes and SysRq+b doesn't work. nomodeset fixes this, but I can't just run in nomodeset forever. What should I do? Thanks!
[14:20] <janat08> d
[14:20] <janat08> How do I see what versions of sql I may have installed?
[14:20] <EriC^^> kkunji: how big is disk that has it? what filesystem?
[14:21] <masos> r3muxd: did you mean *Alt*+SysRq+B instead of SysRq+B?
[14:21] <ikonia> kkunji: I have no idea what /dev/sda1 is doing there
[14:21] <kkunji> EriC^^: NFS and big T.T (13 TB)
[14:21] <r3muxd> yeah, I forgot what key it was so I held down alt, shift, winkey, and ctrl + sysrq+b.
[14:21] <EriC^^> ikonia: he's going through the partition looking for the actual data
[14:21] <masos> ah ok
[14:21] <EriC^^> it perfectly works
[14:22] <ikonia> EriC^^: he's grepping a block device for a string ?
[14:22] <EriC^^> kkunji: you could possibly use photorec and give it a the header your script had and it will retrieve the files
[14:22] <ppf> not via nfs
[14:22] <EriC^^> ikonia: yes, cause the file's been deleted so it's not in the filesystem per say, but in the partition
[14:23] <r3muxd> EriC^^: why not just use testdisk off a livecd then?
[14:23] <kkunji> EriC^^: Exactly, but yeah, like ppf says, I'm not sure it can work over NFS
[14:23] <EriC^^> kkunji: how do you know the file will be within 100 lines above or below the parent path? is that a nfs thing?
[14:23] <EriC^^> r3muxd: cause testdisk is crap with ntfs, barely retrieves fat32
[14:24] <EriC^^> but do give it a shot kkunji , try testdisk first, press "p" over the partition to view the files and see if it can retrieve it
[14:24] <EriC^^> it's quick and easy
[14:24] <kkunji> EriC^^: parent_path is some text in the file, then 2nd line I think, as first is the bin/bash line
[14:24] <r3muxd> huh. when I corrupted my partition table, it seemed to work fine.
[14:24] <r3muxd> and then if that fails, there's photorec...
[14:24] <ppf> EriC^^: he's talking about nFs, not nTfs
[14:24] <EriC^^> r3muxd: partition table is different, it's great at that, he's trying to retrieve an actual deleted file
[14:25] <hendrickscn> need for speed?
[14:25] <r3muxd> ppf: maybe I'm stupid, but isn't nfs a way to mount arbitrary filesystems over the network?
[14:25] <ppf> r3muxd: yes, precisely
[14:25] <ppf> you can't recover deleted files from that
[14:26] <EriC^^> ppf: but there is a filesystem somewhere though right?
[14:26] <r3muxd> ppf: wait, so doesn't that mean he should be trying to figure out what filesystem the partition actually uses?
[14:26] <EriC^^> he said ntfs above
[14:26] <kkunji> EriC: No, I just said NFS, I'm not sure what is on the other side.
[14:26] <ppf> kkunji: do you have access to the physical disk/partition
[14:27] <ppf> that's where you can undelete stuff
[14:27] <ppf> there's no way you can do it via nfs
[14:27] <kkunji> ppf: I don't, but IT probably can.... remote data center, pain in the butt.
[14:28] <ppf> kkunji: then you need to talk to your datacenter
[14:28] <ducasse> kkunji: just recover whatever you deleted from backup
[14:28] <kkunji> If it comes down to it I can write it again, just means having lost a few hours and kicking myself for not adding it to git last night
[14:29] <ezbali> Hello. I am trying to remove/purge ssh-server & client. I want to get back to a default setting (internal network, user name+ password)and work my way from there
[14:29] <ppf> EriC^^: sure, there are multiple layers of filesystems. but to undelete stuff you need the phyiscal partition
[14:29] <ezbali> But try as I might, deleting, the keys keep being addedback
[14:30] <r3muxd> so what should I do? everywhere I see recommends putting nomodeset as default, which doesn't really help.
[14:31] <ezbali> I've deleted /etc/ssh, ssh_config, ~/.ssh, remove --purge server & client...where is that config info coming from?
[14:31] <masos> @BluesKaj nah, there is no BIOS Back Flash in configuration, sadly
[14:35] <Apachez> ezbali:   find / -iname "*ssh*"
[14:36] <janat08> How do I see what versions of sql I may have installed?
[14:36] <BluesKaj> masos, bummer :/
[14:41] <dingel> hi
[14:41] <Castor_Troy> hi, how can i check if my home is in a partition or in a folder ?
[14:41] <janat08> i'm getting error that suggests I upgrade, i got latest version, but maybe there's older one somewhere
[14:42] <ppf> janat08: what's the error
[14:42] <dingel> ubuntu 14.04 shows high iowait times
[14:42] <llutz> Castor_Troy: "df /home /"
[14:43] <BluesKaj> very starnge that there's no Legacy Support in your Boot Mode setup page, masos
[14:43] <Castor_Troy> llutz, looks like its in a partition.
[14:43] <Castor_Troy> retured /dev/sda
[14:43] <Castor_Troy> sda6
[14:43] <janat08> ppf: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/42609045/unhandled-rejection-sequelizeconnectionerror-er-not-supported-auth-mode-client
[14:43] <DeaDSouL_> Hi, what kind of cables do I need to connect this motherboard https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/C600/X10SRH-CF.cfm to the backplane of this chassis https://www.supermicro.com.tw/products/chassis/3U/836/SC836BE1C-R1K03B .... I have no idea whatsoever.. this is my first real server ever...
[14:43] <Castor_Troy> i meantt /dev/sda6 and /dev/sda4
[14:43] <llutz> Castor_Troy: if you get 2 different devices back, its on own partition
[14:43] <ducasse> Castor_Troy: 'mountpoint /home'
[14:44] <bmattos> I installed ubuntu and now i can't boot into windows, how could i add windows to the grub menu
[14:44] <Castor_Troy> ducasse, /home is a mountpoint
[14:44] <ducasse> Castor_Troy: then it is a partition
[14:44] <masos> BluesKaj: I looked in every part of the configuration already like 10 times and still there is no such an option
[14:44] <Castor_Troy> last time, i messed up something,, i wasn't able to get home partition...
[14:44] <Castor_Troy> i lost my data. thats why i am curious
[14:44] <masos> no "Legacy Mode", no "CSM" etc.
[14:44] <dingel> iostat here http://paste.ubuntu.com/24118028/
[14:45] <Castor_Troy> does encrypting /home partition slows down operations ?
[14:45] <ppf> Castor_Troy: of course
[14:45] <ppf> but not noticeably so
[14:45] <dkdms> bmattos: what do you mean by that?
[14:45] <ducasse> DeaDSouL_: try ##hardware
[14:45] <dingel> its on azure
[14:45] <ppf> janat08: sorry, i know nothing about node
[14:45] <BluesKaj> masos, ok I won't mention it again :-)
[14:45] <DeaDSouL_> ducasse: thanks
[14:45] <Castor_Troy> does cd ~ take me to my /home ?
[14:45] <ppf> yes
[14:46] <Castor_Troy> if i put something in my home directory, can i access it on windows (dual boot) ?
[14:46] <ikonia> no
[14:46] <ppf> depends on your filesystem of course, but probably not
[14:46] <cleron> ubuntu?
[14:46] <janat08> ppf: in this case whose the client/
[14:47] <ppf> janat08: node
[14:47] <ppf> or meteor, depending on your point of view
[14:47] <janat08> ppf: so I should concern myself with sql at all (more or less)/
[14:47] <Castor_Troy> can someone help me fix this... i see some weird in df -h  ---> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24118043/
[14:47] <bmattos> dkdms, well i installed ubuntu along side windows, and now i don't see windows in the grub menu, i don't have a choose to boot into windows only ubuntu
[14:47] <janat08> *shouldn't
[14:47] <cleron> Windows 10 Ubuntu Edition
[14:47] <Castor_Troy> what are /snap ???
[14:47] <ikonia> Castor_Troy: please stop messing around, there is no such thing
[14:48] <ikonia> Castor_Troy: sorry, not you
[14:48] <ppf> Castor_Troy: that's a containerized application distriution format
[14:48] <ikonia> cleron: please stop messing around, there is no such thing
[14:48] <masos> yes
[14:48] <masos> yet*
[14:48] <Castor_Troy> i dont know what that means ppf, but can i remove them ?
[14:48] <ppf> no
[14:48] <Castor_Troy> vlc is  not even working on my system
[14:48] <ppf> why would you remove that
[14:49] <ppf> Castor_Troy: what's the issue, really?
[14:49] <ppf> you've been asking a series of random questions now
[14:49] <BluesKaj> Castor_Troy, install ex2fsd in windows and youll have access to your Linux partiton dirs, once it's set up
[14:49] <janat08> ppf: is sudo thing a possibly culprit/?
[14:49] <ppf> janat08: improbable
[14:49] <ikonia> Castor_Troy: I advise against that
[14:49] <ezbali> Does anyone know where openssh is storing information about trusted keys?
[14:50] <ikonia> it is not a stable file system driver, and has been known to cause corruption
[14:50] <cleron> what can i do with ubuntu? got virtual box but cant find anything fun to use it for.
[14:50] <ppf> ezbali: ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[14:50] <Lorne> Hey - I have little padlocks on some folders I want to move... using sudo chmod o+w - I'm able to remove the padlocks individually - but how can I just do it for every folder in the location?
[14:50] <Castor_Troy> ppf, regarding vlc, when i run sudo apt-get remove vlc, it says vlc is not installed. when i run df -h i see something related to vlc
[14:50] <ikonia> cleron: https://help.ubuntu.com check out some of the basic functions everyday people use
[14:50] <ezbali> ppf: I've deleted this entire folder. It still knows the hosts
[14:51] <ikonia> ezbali: look in the sshd_config
[14:51] <ezbali> Also deleted
[14:51] <ppf> ezbali: what do you mean by "knows"
[14:51] <ikonia> you've deleted the sshd_config file ?
[14:51] <ppf> Castor_Troy: snap list| grep vlc
[14:51] <ezbali> & /etc/ssh removed and remade empty, .ssh completely removed and let it create itself
[14:51] <Castor_Troy> ppf, vlc      daily    4     videolan
[14:52] <ppf> there you go
[14:52] <Castor_Troy> ppf, Package 'vlc' is not installed, so not removed
[14:52] <ppf> it's a snap, not  a package
[14:52] <ezbali> ppf: I mean, I have been trying to purge openssh
[14:52] <Castor_Troy> ok. what is that? and how could i remove it
[14:52] <ezbali> To get to default settings
[14:53] <ppf> Castor_Troy: snap remove vlc
[14:53] <ducasse> ezbali: is sshd running?
[14:53] <ppf> Castor_Troy: as i said, snaps are a new application distribution format
[14:53] <ezbali> ducasse: as in when I remove it ?
[14:53] <masos> how are snaps different from packages?
[14:53] <Castor_Troy> ppf, so future software will come via snaps ?
[14:53] <r3muxd> reposting from earlier, I tried Kubuntu, and it blackscreens and hangs (no sysrq) after about 5 seconds after the resolution changes.  this doesn't happen with nomodeset, but I can't use nomodeset all the time. I have no idea where to go from there. Thanks!
[14:53] <ducasse> ezbali: as in since files are being recreated
[14:54] <kkunji> bmattos: try running update-grub and see if it finds it
[14:54] <kkunji> Ah... he left
[14:54] <ppf> Castor_Troy: maybe
[14:54] <ppf> Castor_Troy: also maybe not
[14:54] <ppf> we'll see
[14:54] <ezbali> ducasse: give me a sec, let me try stopping it, purging, and manually deleting a couple folders
[14:55] <dkdms> masos: they have self-contained libraries and are isolated in sandboxes
[14:55] <Castor_Troy> thanks ppf and guys
[14:55] <Castor_Troy> appreciate the help
[14:55] <Castor_Troy> good day
[14:56] <kkunji> ppf: Well, some things you can already get as a snap, so maybe we won't see everything move over, but they are in use for distribution already.
[14:57] <shanky_> hey
[14:57] <shanky_> WARNING: The vboxdrv kernel module is not loaded. Either there is no module
[14:57] <shanky_>          available for the current kernel (4.4.0-65-generic) or it failed to
[14:57] <shanky_>          load. Please recompile the kernel module and install it by
[14:57] <shanky_>            sudo /sbin/vboxconfig
[14:57] <shanky_>          You will not be able to start VMs until this problem is fixed.
[14:57] <ducasse> kkunji: so is flatpak, and a lot of people consider that a better format
[14:58] <ppf> me included
[14:58] <ppf> though i'm generally still sceptical about  the entire concept
[14:58] <ppf> (even though i understand the merits)
[15:00] <shanky_> can someone help with this issue virtualbox installation?
[15:03] <dkdms> shanky_: have you just installed virtualbox or something's just happened
[15:03] <ppf> shanky_: check dmesg for errors
[15:04] <Halamix2> maybe "sudo apt install virtualbox-dkms" would help?
[15:04] <ppf> shanky_: dmesg | grep -i -e fail -e error -e problem
[15:04] <ppf> and paste the results
[15:06] <kkunji> ducasse: Actually, there was a bug I encountered about it, when installing Krita from the software center, so what I mean is that they are being used by built in Ubuntu software.  Maybe flatpak also was and I just never heard about it?
[15:07] <Halamix2> Hi, I have problem with gamepad: I probably did something long time ago and when I move left stick it moves cursor on the screen and I don't know how to unbind it
[15:07] <ppf> kkunji: flatpack is the competition's product
[15:08] <ducasse> kkunji: my impression is canonical is trying to ignore flatpak and hope it goes away, but... *shrug*
[15:10] <Halamix2> oh, nevermind, it was selected as a mouse in mouse settings
[15:12] <WeiJunLi> the right cmd to mount is 'mount /dev/sda1 /dev/sda1'
[15:12] <WeiJunLi> or mount /dev/sda1 /
[15:12] <WeiJunLi> ?
[15:13] <ppf> the latter
[15:13] <baizon> !man mount
[15:13] <baizon> WeiJunLi: https://linux.die.net/man/8/mount
[15:14] <mahakal> Hey guys,i am currently on ubuntu 16.04...want to make a opensuse bootable but the iso file is 4.2 gb , i think this is something file system stuff..How to go for that ?
[15:14] <dkdms> does flatpack require java?
[15:14] <alkisg> WeiJunLi: eh, you usually don't want to mount things to /, it's already mounted
[15:14] <ppf> dkdms: no?
[15:14] <ppf> lol
[15:15] <ppf> mahakal: some more details?
[15:15] <ppf> what is the problem
[15:17] <mahakal> i think the file system
[15:17] <ppf> aha
[15:17] <mahakal> more than 4gb for a single file
[15:17] <WeiJunLi> I tried to umount /dev/sda1 but says '/ : target is busy'
[15:17] <ppf> and in terms of error messages?
[15:17] <WeiJunLi> I tried to locate the proccess
[15:17] <WeiJunLi> with lsof | grep '/dev/sda'
[15:17] <WeiJunLi> but there's no output :o
[15:17] <ppf> WeiJunLi: it's all of them ...
[15:18] <alkisg> WeiJunLi: you usually want to do: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt, not in /
[15:18] <ppf> what are you trying to do?
[15:18] <alkisg> WeiJunLi: i.e. you mount it in a subfolder
[15:18] <ppf> dkdms: it's called flatpak, btw
[15:18] <WeiJunLi> ppf: trying to fix this
[15:18] <WeiJunLi> [  136.649374] EXT4-fs (sda): Couldn't remount RDWR because of unprocessed orphan inode list.  Please umount/remount instead
[15:18] <ppf> right
[15:18] <WeiJunLi> I guess I have to go Recovery Mode
[15:19] <WeiJunLi> right
[15:19] <ppf> yes
[15:19] <ppf> if that fs is indeed your /
[15:19] <WeiJunLi> yes i think i mounted it on /
[15:19] <mahakal> ppf: what should i do ?
[15:19] <ppf> mount | pastebinit
[15:20] <ppf> mahakal: tell us what the error is?
[15:20] <WeiJunLi> ppf: if i mounted it previously on /
[15:20] <WeiJunLi> i have to stick with it right
[15:21] <WeiJunLi> cant follow what alkisg said and do /dev/sda1 /mtn
[15:21] <mahakal> when  i was downloading the iso , i had to change the file system on my pendrive to ntfs .will the same problem will occur while burning the iso?
[15:21] <alkisg> WeiJunLi: I didn't imagine that you were trying to re-mount your /, so I was wrong there, I thought it was some other partition
[15:21] <ppf> mahakal: what IS the problem?
[15:21] <alkisg> WeiJunLi: just reboot into recovery and fsck from there
[15:22] <alkisg> mahakal: the file system of the drive does not matter because you're supposed to dd to /dev/sdb, to the whole drive, so it will have an iso file system. See https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Live_USB_stick#Write_ISO_to_USB_2
[15:22] <alkisg> mahakal: in other words, the dd command will also format your stick
[15:22] <WeiJunLi> alkisg: just to be clear, so in this case i should do mount /dev/sda1 /
[15:22] <alkisg> WeiJunLi: no, users never do that, only the initramfs mounts things to /
[15:22] <WeiJunLi> alkisg: already did that ' fsck -f /dev/sda1 '
[15:22] <alkisg> WeiJunLi: if you want to fsck a disk, it shouldn't be in use
[15:23] <WeiJunLi> i'll just follow what the error said, umount/mount
[15:23] <WeiJunLi> mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[15:23] <WeiJunLi> right
[15:23] <alkisg> WeiJunLi: don't do that
[15:23] <alkisg> WeiJunLi: if it's your actual root, you can't mount it elsewhere, you need to go to recovery
[15:24] <WeiJunLi> alkisg: I'm on recovery mode already
[15:24] <alkisg> Then select the "check disk errors" menu
[15:24] <dkdms> also, no qt runtime, useless
[15:24] <WeiJunLi> alkisg: you mean ' fsck Check all file systems '
[15:24] <WeiJunLi> right
[15:24] <alkisg> Yup
[15:25] <WeiJunLi> alkisg: will take a while i guess
[15:25] <WeiJunLi> will let u know when finish
[15:25] <mahakal> alkisg: yes,it worked,Thanks
[15:26] <alkisg> mahakal: np
[15:26] <mahakal> alkisg: i have asked a question on ubuntu-touch .BUt no answer ? is the channel active or not ?
[15:26] <alkisg> No idea, sometimes channels are less active on weekends though
[15:27] <mahakal> alkisg: oh ,yeah sunday.... cool
[15:27] <WeiJunLi> alkisg: after that the issue should be solved?
[15:28] <alkisg> WeiJunLi: I don't know the issue, if it's only a broken inode then yes
[15:31] <WeiJunLi> alkisg: im trying to boot a qemu vm
[15:31] <WeiJunLi> that error happens when booting
[15:34] <WeiJunLi> alkisg: here's the full trace http://dpaste.com/3D2AVYT
[15:38] <WeiJunLi> alkisg: well it didnt fix it at all
[15:41] <flipper> I'm getting my butt kicked here. I am installing 16.04 on a system with three hard drives. One 60gb SSD, and two 250GB HDDs. I'd like the ssd to be root, and the other two drives configured as a RAID0, and mounted at /home.
[15:42] <snowkrash_> hi
[15:42] <flipper> following an advanced server setup guide at help.ubuntu.com, I've gone through the process, of creating the partitions, and RAID, but the system won't boot.
[15:43] <snowkrash_> exit
[15:44] <ducasse> flipper: when/how does it fail? at which point in the boot process?
[15:44] <flipper> it hangs right away at /dev/sda1: clean, 58996/3670016 files, 558145/14653440 blocks
[15:45] <r3muxd> sorry for reposting, but what should I do?
[15:45] <r3muxd>  I tried Kubuntu, and it blackscreens and hangs (no sysrq) after about 5 seconds after the resolution changes.  this doesn't happen with nomodeset, but I can't use nomodeset all the time. I have no idea where to go from there. Thanks!
[15:46] <WeiJunLi> alkisg: are u around
[15:48] <BluesKaj> r3muxd, graphics driver , sudo ubuntu-drivers list , check your gpu to see which one fits
[15:48] <r3muxd> blueskaj: I'll try that, thanks!
[15:50] <flipper> I'm in need of some help on installing 16.04 with /home, and swap on a software RAID0.
[15:55] <flipper> It appears that the RAID0 is not being assembled during the boot process, so the system sees the two individual drives, and not the RAID, therefor the /home folder does not exist.
[15:57] <flipper> I'm going to test this theory, by just installing the system on the RAID.
[16:01] <mahakal> Guys i have download android sturdio archive .I am running ubuntu 16.04 . HOw to install it ?
[16:06] <mvvvv> mahakal, select linux : https://developer.android.com/studio/install.html
[16:07] <mahakal> THis is for window
[16:07] <mahakal> goi it
[16:07] <mahakal> there is an option for linux too
[16:08] <mahakal> ;)
[16:16] <mahakal> mvvv: THe setup wizard is again prompting to download the 880 mb package which i already have
[16:16] <mahakal> what to do now
[16:19] <mvvvv> mahakal, cooperate ...
[16:19] <mahakal> mvvvv: ok
[16:20] <kaz> #mandrake
[16:21] <mikewilzn> Hi
[16:23] <mikewilzn> Can anyone help me? I am setting up an Ubuntu server and for some reason it won't connect to the internet (wired connection). Someone on #datahoarder suggested it is probably that Auto-DHCP is off. Here is a copy of my /etc/network/interfaces http://pastebin.com/G9uM7HEz
[16:26] <pavlos> mikewilzn, can you paste output of ifconfig
[16:27] <k1l_> mikewilzn: anything relevant in "dmesg"?
[16:28] <mikewilzn> pavlos: The two devices that are listed are "lo" and "docker0"
[16:29] <pavlos> mikewilzn, so there is no device eth0 but docker0
[16:29] <mikewilzn> Yeah
[16:29] <mikewilzn> I think I am inside a container actually
[16:30] <bigbadman> hello
[16:30] <bigbadman> what's the facial recognition software that's free?
[16:31] <bigbadman> I can't open geogebra , it crashes because java crashes?
[16:31] <bigbadman> both the question are mine
[16:35] <pavlos> mikewilzn, does this help? http://odino.org/cannot-connect-to-the-internet-from-your-docker-containers/
[16:50] <mantise> Hi
[16:52] <mantise> i need guidance :) im about to install lts on my stationary (gamer pc). which desktop should i chose ? been reading reviews about unity, gnome and kde. i want one of those.
[16:53] <mozza77> mantise: anything specific you're looking for ?
[16:54] <mantise> i think the unity menu is a bit boring and old ish looking. but it should also be fast and stable. thinking i could install ubuntu and then install gnome on it, as dual desktop. To try them both
[16:54] <k1l_> mantise: ask 3 people and get 5 opinions :)  so best is  to test it your own
[16:54] <mantise> but KDE looks more up to date
[16:55] <mantise> yeah well, insted of make 3 installs :D i just wanted other people opinions, why to chose kde or gnome :)
[16:55] <mozza77> Installing them isn't a big hassle if you really wanna get a feel for them
[16:55] <k1l_> mantise: you can make a live usb of kubuntu and test it, and then make one with ubuntu(-gnome) and test that.
[16:56] <mantise> think the overview within KDE is very good. menus ect
[16:56] <k1l_> mantise: its really about what you like or prefer. they all 3 work as desktops
[16:56] <mantise> so i just run it from usb to test it ? :)
[16:56] <k1l_> mantise: yes, you can choose "live desktop without install" on the usb boot on all isos.
[16:57] <idef1x> I use KDE even on my sasung n210 netbook from 2010..KDE just works finest for me ..and has kdeconnect :)
[16:57] <idef1x> sasung = samsung
[16:58] <mozza77> I know you don't really need a reason, but is there any? About not wanting to try all 3 on the same ubuntu install
[16:58] <mantise> ive been reading some tests. the one from hecticgeek, think you all read them
[16:58] <k1l_> to me it sounds like he already made the decision for kubuntu but wants us to justify it now :)
[16:59] <mantise> so i can install ubuntu
[16:59] <mantise> then do a apt-get install gnome and kde ?
[16:59] <mozza77> :D Not a KDE user but I won't stand in the way of someone and their KDE
[16:59] <mantise> try them and remove the once i dont like ? :D
[16:59] <k1l_> mantise: test it yourself. we dont know what you do or like
[16:59] <mozza77> mantise: yep
[17:00] <mozza77> I asked because for me personally, it'd be more hassle to go around making usbs for each I wanna try
[17:01] <mantise> well it will take some time with installing/uninstalling :)    thats the only reason for not installing them all. but maybe thats what i need to do :)
[17:02] <mozza77> I guess. It seems like you'd be taking the same or more time downloading and creating the USBs
[17:02] <thyriaen> i installed redshift recently and got it to work on my primary monitor - however i i am running a dual monitor setup :: my nvidia driver handles those as a combined screen "screen 0" i am using raandr method because it was suggested to be the best option for multi monitor setups; here is my xrandr: http://pastebin.com/dMvC9YgE can someone help me ?
[17:02] <mantise> the review said he had some crashes with testing kde. kde had slow boot up time ect
[17:02] <mozza77> Anyway do it however you want. I was just thinking how I would do it
[17:03] <mantise> kde use the least amount of memory compared to unity and gnome
[17:03] <k1l_> mantise: test it :)
[17:03] <mozza77> thyriaen: are they a single screen?
[17:04] <mantise> so kde also did best with multi tasking :)
[17:04] <thyriaen> mozza77, yes they are
[17:04] <mantise> yeah i will
[17:04] <mantise> anyone had issues with the kubuntu installer ?
[17:05] <k1l_> maybe, maybe not :)
[17:05] <mantise> language and keyboard selection ect
[17:05] <mozza77> thyriaen: follow up question, installed redshift from package manager , or compiled?
[17:06] <thyriaen> from the package manger
[17:06] <mantise> ah well, thanks for your "help" :p have a nice day
[17:06] <mozza77> Hmm
[17:07] <mozza77> thyriaen: I am not certain but I suspect it's just nvidia not playing nice, and maybe does not have a solution for you
[17:08] <thyriaen> want me to look something up in the nvidia driver ?
[17:08] <thyriaen> would it help if i configure my monitors as seperate screens ?
[17:10] <mozza77> I don't think so. I've heard of this issue before and my understanding using it as a single screen (whats the name for that?) is the one that works more often
[17:11] <mozza77> thyriaen: give me a sec I need to google some commands
[17:11] <thyriaen> okay, well i found this bug on the interwebs too but it only always suggested not to use vidmode but randr instead