[04:25] <ramontayag> can you make the numpad control the cursor? My numpad suddenly stopped typing numbers and started moving the cursor. I don't know if I pressed something that changed it.
[04:25] <candykorn> alright i have another question... is there anyway to launch windows from ubuntu and keep it open in another window
[04:25] <xiambax> pmccand, refresh your menu
[04:25] <pmccand> how?
[04:26] <candykorn> also hideing folders or adding an encryption
[04:26] <Geekneeus> aeubz: you can download the drivers from http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsCheck.aspx?langid=1&pfid=24&level=4&conn=3&downtypeid=3 and use the install script
[04:26] <merkoth> ramontayag, maybe you pressed num-lock in your keyboard?
[04:26] <ramontayag> merkoth: i tried with both num lock on and off
[04:26] <user___> my ubuntu is freezing and i am losing precious data
[04:26] <xorwhy> Maybe I'll just skip the kernel update for now. I want it because it supposedly has improved functions for xorg response time. Sounds lovely but, at what (disk space) cost.
[04:26] <Geekneeus> aeubz: download the unix/linux version, your device should be supported
[04:26] <Random832> where can i put a PATH setting so that the run dialog will pick up scripts in a dir under my homedir?
[04:27] <bastid_raZor> ramontayag: shift+ctrl+alt+numLock
[04:27] <pmccand> Xiambax, How do I refresh the menu?
[04:27] <ramontayag> bastid_raZor: yey!
[04:27] <ramontayag> wow
[04:27] <ramontayag> thanks.
[04:27] <xiambax> one second
[04:27] <bastid_raZor> ramontayag: oddly my desktop does the same thing. have no clue what started it.
[04:27] <xiambax> try killall gnome-panel
[04:28] <merkoth> any ideas why my line-in shows input level but I can't hear anything?
[04:28] <ramontayag> bastid_raZor: haha lucky you're here then. i must have accidentally typed that
[04:28] <xiambax> merkoth, i had this issue yesterday
[04:28] <Geekneeus> xorwhy: For compiling some applications
[04:28] <xiambax> is it your line in on the front of the pc?
[04:28] <dealy663> can anyone help me solve an Error 22 partition not found problem?
[04:28] <merkoth> xiambax, nope, in the back
[04:28] <aeubz> Geekneeus: i clicked on accept >> next, then a screen pops up and says site moved to here and when i click on it, it just sends me back to the same site
[04:29] <Geekneeus> auebz: It's an issue with the site, keep trying and you'll get it eventually
[04:29] <xiambax> merkoth, do a "sudo apt-get install alsa-mixer"
[04:29] <xorwhy> Geekneeus: I only have to install one thing from source after, I think I'll try and do without sources if I do kernel upgrade.
[04:29] <user___> Geekneeus, why does my ubuntu freeze
[04:29] <merkoth> xiambax, I do have alsamixer
[04:29] <xorwhy> Or just compile it and then upgrade lol
[04:29] <xiambax> ok then check your levels and make sure the device isnt muter
[04:30] <xiambax> muted
[04:30] <Geekneeus> xorwhy: ok :)
[04:30] <Geekneeus> user___: I don't know, why does it freeze?
[04:31] <user___> Geekneeus, not too sure but can you help me out finding out why
[04:31] <Bluey1> I know that openoffice can play back powerpoint presentations - but is there any linux software that will create them?
[04:31] <Geekneeus> user___: Not without more information
[04:31] <knoppies> user___, do you have awn installed?
[04:31] <maco> Bluey1: OO does that too
[04:31] <Bluey1> maco: okay that's not obvious....
[04:31] <Andorin> Another netsplit?
[04:32] <merkoth> xiambax, the <line> bar is maxed. it shows MM instead of 00 as the other channels. also says CAPTUR
[04:32] <user___> Geekneeus, what info would you like
[04:32] <xiambax> Yup, it was huge
[04:32] <maco> Andorin: no....
[04:32] <xiambax> merkoth, check the mute buttons at the top
[04:32] <xiambax> to make sure it isnt muted
[04:32] <maco> merkoth: MM means muted
[04:32] <Andorin> mm, freenode's being weird then.
[04:32] <xiambax> make sure its in the line in
[04:32] <xiambax> not the mic
[04:32] <xiambax> cause if its in mic it wont route it through the speakers so no feedback is caused
[04:32] <Geekneeus> user___: Well, when it freezes (what applications are running) etc, anything to narrow it down to a cause
[04:32] <maco> Bluey1: you just use OpenOffice Presentation (really called Impress) and then save as ppt...
[04:33] <knoppies> user___, do you have avant window navigator (AWN dock) installed?
[04:33] <user___> Geekneeus, transmission rythembox google chrome
[04:33] <user___> knoppies, no
[04:34] <xiambax> chrome or chromium ?
[04:34] <Geekneeus> user___ what does your kernel, system logs say?
[04:34] <Bluey1> maco: where can I find some documentation on that?
[04:34] <maco> Bluey1: ehhh? its one of the options in file -> save as
[04:34] <ctmjr> pmccand: what happens when you type googleearth in a terminal
[04:35] <maco> Bluey1: why do you need documentation to use a save dialog?
[04:35] <pmccand> ctmjr:  haven't tried.
[04:35] <Bluey1> maco: I'm not seeing it...
[04:36] <Harrison_Bergero> hey, my 9.04 keeps freezing with proprietary video drivers
[04:36] <user___> Geekneeus, i will paste to paste.ubuntu.com
[04:36] <pmccand> ctmjr:  it says, googleearth: command not found
[04:36] <maco> Bluey1: file -> save -> filter: Microsoft Powerpoint 97/2000/XP (.ppt)
[04:36] <Harrison_Bergero> can i simply swap out my card for another one?  Will the OS automatically detect it
[04:37] <maco> Bluey1: its in the little file type drop down below where you type in the file name you want
[04:37] <roger2> hello, am looking for "scandisk" equivalent gui n ubuntu
[04:37] <Bluey1> maco: okay I'll look again...
[04:37] <Harrison_Bergero> or do i have to uninstall the proprietary driver before removing the card?
[04:37] <ctmjr> pmccand: try this /opt/google-earth//googleearth
[04:38] <user___> Geekneeus, http://paste.ubuntu.com/301756/
[04:38] <merkoth> xiambax, fixed it, in a very stupid way
[04:38] <xiambax> changed inputs?
[04:38] <Geekneeus> Harrison_Bergero: You probably should as they're likely to not be the right drivers
[04:38] <Bluey1> maco: it's not in the version of oo I have I am running 3.1 and .ppt is NOT a save option
[04:38] <Harrison_Bergero> Geekneeus, so with the "stock" ubuntu graphic driver will i be able to use the "new" card?
[04:39] <merkoth> xiambax, how on earth does one unmute a channel from alsamixer? amixer set Line 100% unmute did the trick though
[04:39] <xiambax> Sorry if im distracted, Im watching this concert. Its so sweet
[04:39] <ubuntuGr> guys i have a program on /opt/jrun/bin/ and always i do /opt/jrun/bin/jrun -start myprog  ( is any way to my ubuntu that script start authomaticaly ? )
[04:39] <pmccand> ctmjr: it says googleearth:  now such file or directory.
[04:39] <xiambax> merkoth, there are labels at the top of alsa mixer. little buttons
[04:39] <Random832> so does anyone know - where can i put a PATH setting so that the run dialog will pick up scripts in a dir under my homedir?
[04:39] <Geekneeus> Harrison_Bergero: It really depends on your card, I can't answer that correctly.. with the generic driver any card should work
[04:39] <Random832> (i asked before but there was some netsplit stuff going on i think)
[04:40] <SeanInSeattle> Hey there.  Does anyone know where to find the installer for the x64 flash plugin?
[04:40] <Harrison_Bergero> Greekneeus...so when i uninstall the proprietary driver the default is then used?
[04:40] <maco> Bluey1: http://imagebin.ca/view/H3eka9.html
[04:40] <pmccand> ctmjr: bash: /opt/google-earth//googleearth: No such file or directory
[04:40] <maco> Bluey1: thats the kde save dialog, but the gnome one should look similar.
[04:40] <Geekneeus> Harrison_Bergero: That's usually the case
[04:40] <xiambax> SeanInSeattle, http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[04:40] <Harrison_Bergero> Greekneeus...what im asking is this...i have two options for proprietary driver, but nothing i see reads generic
[04:41] <maco> Bluey1: i am also using 3.1
[04:41] <xiambax> Pre-Release of flash 10 64bit for linux
[04:41] <merkoth> xiambax, maybe in the GUI version? I can't find anything similar in the CLI one, I doesn't matter though. thanks for your help :)
[04:41] <xiambax> i think the letter m or maybe -/+ do it
[04:41] <xiambax> i dunno
[04:41] <Harrison_Bergero> Geekneeus....last question then before i go.  I have a box full of graphic cards...64 to 128 large
[04:41] <maco> xiambax: m toggles mute
[04:42] <Bluey1> maco: yeah sorry that is not an option - so I will tell them it can't be done - thanks for your help....
[04:42] <Harrison_Bergero> what do zou suggest as a model best for Ubuntu
[04:42] <xiambax> There ya go merkoth
[04:42] <maco> Bluey1: your stuff's broken then
[04:42] <maco> Bluey1: its been able to do it for years
[04:42] <xiambax> M is da trick
[04:42] <SeanInSeattle> xiambax =>  So, how to install the plugin?
[04:42] <maco> Bluey1: did you try scrolling?
[04:42] <Bluey1> maco: could be -- yes I tried scrolling...
[04:42] <merkoth> maco, xiambax thanks :)
[04:42] <xiambax> download the script and run it via terminal
[04:42] <maco> Bluey1: i mean, theres an option in tools -> options to set ppt as the default format for presentations
[04:42] <xiambax> probably "sh ./pathtoscript.sh"
[04:43] <ctmjr> pmccand: then it did not install correctly you can try and remove it and reinstall or get it from here http://earth.google.com/intl/en/download-earth.html
[04:43] <xiambax> or something along those lines
[04:43] <SeanInSeattle> xiambax =>  Its just a compressed .so file.
[04:43] <Harrison_Bergero> Geekneeus...gotta get breakfast, maybe ill catch you online when i have swapped out the cards and let you know how it went.
[04:43] <Harrison_Bergero> cheers
[04:43] <Geekneeus> Harrison_Bergero: I'm not an expert in graphics cards sorry ;)
[04:43] <xiambax> you mean so. or sh?
[04:43] <maco> Bluey1: please dont lie to someone about the capabilities of the software simply because you cant figure out how to use it
[04:43] <SeanInSeattle> xiambax =>  so, is that a type of script?
[04:44] <Bluey1> maco: it just isn't there if I could take a screen shot I'd show you....
[04:44] <xiambax> extract the tar .gz
[04:44] <pmccand> ctmjr:  Thanks for your help.  i'll keep trying till I get this thing running.
[04:44] <Geekneeus> user___: I can't pin point the exact problem from that log file, next time it errors capture the time and if I'm here I will take a look
[04:44] <maco> Bluey1: youre in the presentation app right now, right? not trying to save as ppt from within the word processor app (which would offer .doc)?
[04:44] <xiambax> then you should get a flash10_en.sh
[04:44] <xiambax> then you just need to sh ./flash10_en.sh
[04:44] <ctmjr> pmccand: ok good luck if it installs right it will be in applications/internet
[04:44] <xiambax> and that should get you started
[04:45] <Bluey1> maco: I am in openoffice
[04:45] <maco> Bluey1: *which* part of openoffice?
[04:45] <maco> Bluey1: just like ms office it has a number of apps
[04:45] <pmccand> ctmjr:  thx
[04:45] <SeanInSeattle> thx dude.
[04:45] <Bluey1> maco: open office writer
[04:45] <xiambax> No problem
[04:45] <maco> Bluey1: thats the word processor
[04:45] <maco> Bluey1: of course it cant save presentations
[04:45] <carls> hello
[04:45] <maco> Bluey1: use openoffice impress
[04:46] <maco> Bluey1: the one that does presentations
[04:46] <Bluey1> maco: let me see if I can find that....
[04:46] <maco> Bluey1: its called "OpenOffice.org Presentation" in the menu
[04:46] <xiambax> lolz
[04:46] <Bluey1> maco: got it!
[04:47] <carls> hello systems
[04:47] <carls> que tal
[04:47] <Geekneeus> I might be smelling a troll somewhere
[04:47] <xiambax> Im no troll
[04:47] <tazz> anyone able to get mozilla raindrops running on there install ?
[04:48] <xiambax> raindrops?
[04:48] <vigo> Is there a way or script or GUI clicky/setting in Gnome to snap the mouse to Center of the screen?
[04:48] <Geekneeus> xiambax: I wasn't specific
[04:48] <maco> Bluey1: told ya so!
[04:48] <xiambax> Oh, I can be a troll sometimes. I was when i was more cocky. But i stopped using linux 3 years ago and now im way behind
[04:48] <Geekneeus> vigo: Why would you want to do that?
[04:48] <tazz> xiambax, https://wiki.mozilla.org/Raindrop/ its supposed to be the "new" email killer or something
[04:49] <Geekneeus> xiambax: sorry to hear that
[04:50] <xiambax> Geekneeus, I got a job for apple. So i bought a mac. Best investment ever.
[04:50] <xiambax> But i like linux too, but i love my mac
[04:50] <vigo> Geekneeus: Because I am old and the mouse gets lost or mispositioned over something, seems like a Ctrl-C or some key combo would or could snap/move the pointer to center?
[04:50] <Geekneeus> xiambax: Glad you're satisfied, matter of opinion I guess
[04:51] <Bluey1> maco: just like downtown - no wonder -- thanks!
[04:51] <Geekneeus> vigo: I don't think anyone has ever thought of such an application. Perhaps you could try making the mouse cursor bigger
[04:52] <bastid_raZor> vigo: compiz has a show mouse plugin.
[04:53] <xiambax> Geekneeus, Theres and plugin in compiz as part of the accessibility features that points out your cursor
[04:53] <xiambax> I think that may be what hes looking for
[04:53] <vigo> Geekneeus: That did not work, I also added the Ctrl shows Mouse, maybe I will write or collaborate on such a thing, really seems like a nice gadget for Accessibility purposes. could even use Speex or something to center mouse/pointer.
[04:54] <Geekneeus> xiambax: oh right. I didn't want to assume anything, he seemed cleared that he wanted it in the center :P
[04:54] <vigo> bastid_raZor: so such a thing exists? neato.
[04:54] <zetheroo> is there a way to send free faxes from Ubuntu?
[04:55] <xiambax> Geek I know synergy puts the cursor center on the screen when you change screens
[04:55] <xiambax> maybe the code is there already
[04:55] <IdleOne> vigo: System > Prefs > Mouse has a check box for Show mouse pisiton when ctrl is pressed
[04:55] <bastid_raZor> vigo: you can customize the looks.. once enabled windows key + k will show you the location of the pointer
[04:55] <vigo> IdleOne: Thank you, looking now.
[04:55] <Geekneeus> xiambax: ok, I've never lost my mouse cursor before :P
[04:55] <xiambax> vigo, do yo have compiz installed?
[04:56] <xiambax> Geekneeus, Probably falls under the same category as loosing your teeth in the morning ;)
[04:56] <vigo> I do not think I have Compiz enabled. I have the effects and stuff, so I think it is in.
[04:57] <yoophglup> does anyone know how to enable 2 mouse cursors in ubuntu?
[04:57] <xiambax> Ok. Go into your compiz settings manager
[04:57] <xiambax> under System --> Prefs
[04:57] <Geekneeus> yoophglup: why?
[04:57] <xiambax> Then click under.... show mouse,vigo.
[04:58] <xiambax> part of the accessibility subset
[04:58] <vigo> Whoops, is not showing Compiz, let me put that package in.
[04:58] <xiambax> compizconfig settings manager
[04:59] <xiambax> i dunno the exact package name
[04:59] <IdleOne> !ccsm
[04:59] <yoophglup> well I have a multiple monitor setup and sometimes my wife would like to use the internet while I'm using it. It would be awsome to use 2 mice so I can use one screen while she uses the other. I've read about MPX but I can't seem to get it to work.
[04:59] <vigo> Thats the one I am missing, thank you.
[04:59] <xiambax> wait vigo, what happens when you hold down windows key + k
[05:00] <vigo> xiambax: Nothing,,,yet
[05:00] <dustan> what would be the cause of the dvd drive not working in my laptop i know the drive is good cause i just tried it in a diff machine and the laptop reads it cause when i put in the ubuntu disk it brings up the install screen
[05:00] <xiambax> ok
[05:00] <dustan> on start up
[05:00] <brandonban6> hello.... anyone know of the best way to encrypt a file and either email it or post it to a website in which the user will be using windows?
[05:01] <stanley> Hey all. Sometimes my audio works and sometimes it doesn't. I'll literally reboot 4 or 5 times before it starts to work. I'll go to bed, come back, and it won't be working. Any body have any ideas? It's driving me crazy!
[05:01] <Geekneeus> yoophglup: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174&highlight=1+desktop+2+screen
[05:01] <stanley> brandonban6: truecrypt works well
[05:01] <Geekneeus> yoophglup: maybe that will help
[05:01] <xiambax> brandonban6, truecrypt
[05:01] <SeanInSeattle> xiambax =>  Hey.  I've tried running this cmd "./libflashplayer.so", but I get a "Segmentation fault".  Running "sh libflashplayer.so" returns some gobbly gook of unicode characters.
[05:01] <zetheroo> does efax allow you to send faxes through the Internet or is it only by using a fax modem?
[05:01] <stanley> !brandonban6 | truecrypt
[05:02] <stanley> !truecrype | brandonban6
[05:02] <xiambax> you dont run libflashplayer lol
[05:02] <stanley> !truecrypt | brandonban6
[05:02] <stanley> there we go... finally
[05:02] <brandonban6> stanley, thanks... does the end user need truecrypt installed in order to read the file?
[05:02] <SeanInSeattle> xiambax =>  I'm sorry, dude.  I'm pretty new at this.  What should I do with it?
[05:02] <xiambax> you dont run that one
[05:02] <Geekneeus> yoophglup: I think MPX is your best bet though, doesn't seem to be anything else
[05:02] <stanley> brandonban6: yup
[05:03] <brandonban6> stanley, cool beans, thank you sir.
[05:03] <vigo> Looks like simple-ccsm is the way, will try this out, Thank you all.
[05:03] <SeanInSeattle> xiambax => is it supposed to go into a directory for firefox plugins?
[05:03] <yoophglup> yeah i've read that thread when I was choosing what type of multimonitor setup to use. I like twin view but until I figure out how to setup MPX then I'm stuck with one pointer
[05:03] <stanley> brandonban6: NP, it works great. I use it to store files that i need protected on my hard drive. it's always worked like a charm
[05:03] <centaur5> With the terrible problems between the new xorg versions on Jaunty and Karmic and the radeon drivers does Ubuntu update new drivers every month or only every .04 and .10 release?
[05:04] <SeanInSeattle> Ah, I think I found it, /usr/lib/firefox-#-#-##/plugins/
[05:04] <Geekneeus> yoophglup: indeed, it may be installed in 9.10 though
[05:05] <xiambax> SeanInSeatlle, whats your email ill just email you the right sh
[05:05] <yoophglup> okay I'll update then and let you know. sounds like the best place to start anyways
[05:05] <xiambax> no wait
[05:05] <xiambax> Sean, There should be a flash10_en.sh file
[05:05] <Geekneeus> yoophglup: 9.10 is still beta, and I'm only guessing
[05:06] <yoophglup> i thought it was already existing in the X system but maybe not...
[05:06] <ghj> m
[05:06] <totiq> !ubuntu
[05:06] <totiq> !karmic
[05:06] <Geekneeus> yoophglup: it will be eventually
[05:07] <yoophglup> its the same technology they are going to use for the multi touch i think
[05:07] <xiambax> viro, did you get it?
[05:07] <Geekneeus> yoophglup: I wonder if humanity, when they're half robot will have windows or linux installed
[05:08] <joustin> we will be safe if they are using Vista
[05:08] <vigo> Ahh,,I need the Assisted Technologies or assistive , let me look.
[05:08] <d9500> SeaninSeattle: not meaning to intrrupt xianbx here, but what is it you're trying to do? install 64 bit flash plugin?
[05:08] <Ahadiel> Geekneeus, I think when that happens, we would've moved on from Linux/Windows
[05:08] <yoophglup> i just updated my generic kernel and I need to reboot, can I update to 9.1 then reboot or should I reboot then update to 9.1
[05:08] <d9500> xiambax*
[05:08] <xiambax> WHat
[05:09] <xiambax> oh yeah.
[05:09] <d9500> xiambax: sorry, i wasn't actually asking you a question, just fixing my typo
[05:09] <xiambax> I gave him the link to the flash labs flash 10 website
[05:09] <yoophglup> when humanity is half robot the will definatley NOT use windows, freaking blue screen of death would be a hospital visit
[05:09] <xiambax> he download the tar.gz
[05:09] <d9500> xiambax: but i tried the same link and there is no script
[05:09] <xiambax> whoops
[05:09] <DigitalKiwi> yoophglup: http://xkcd.com/644/
[05:10] <Guest19372> I have an issue... I just uninstalled chrome and installed chromium (being the open source lover i am.) anyway, i cant log into my gmail account. I get this message: You have been signed out of this account.
[05:10] <Geekneeus> yoophglup: I love the blue screen of death
[05:10] <Guest19372> This may have happened automatically because another user signed in from the same browser. To continue using this account, you will need to sign in again. This is done to protect your account and to ensure the privacy of your information.
[05:10] <d9500> xiambax: there's a tarball, and if he extracts in, and then copies the libflashplayer.so file to the mozilla plugins folder, it should work
[05:10] <Geekneeus> yoophglup: love it that much, I haven't used windows for years
[05:10] <yoophglup> hehehe digitalkiwi thats a good one
[05:10] <stanley> yoophglup: Have you seen the latest windows advertisement? "I told microsoft that I didn't want an operating system full of bugs, and one that crashed all the time. I told them I was tired of it. They agreed, and they listened. Now we have Windows 7, the best OS yet"
[05:10] <SeanInSeattle> d9500 => that's what I'm trying now...
[05:11] <d9500> SeaninSeattle: alternately, you could, if you want to just install it for your user and not all users, you could create a directory called plugins in /home/yourusername/.mozilla, and drop the libflashplayer.so file into the newly made plugins directory.
[05:11] <Geekneeus> stanley: From the company that has had a ton of bugs with every release so far, that's funny
[05:12] <yoophglup> I have not, have you seen the mac vs pc with the "promise it will be different this time" they go all they way back to windows 2
[05:12] <SeanInSeattle> d9500 =>  cool, dude.  thx for the pointer.
[05:12] <andrew_> I have an issue... I just uninstalled chrome and installed chromium (being the open source lover i am.) anyway, i cant log into my gmail account. I get this message: You have been signed out of this account.
 This may have happened automatically because another user signed in from the same browser. To continue using this account, you will need to sign in again. This is done to protect your account and to ensure the privacy of your information.
[05:12] <stanley> Geekneeus: What I found most funny was that it more or less was microsoft ADMITTING it was full of bugs and crashed
[05:13] <Thorsten11> hello all
[05:13] <Geekneeus> heh, well they can't deny the truth
[05:14] <Geekneeus> The latest version of windows scares me, well every version does.. but with all the latest big brother tools for msn and skype.. ew.
[05:14] <Geekneeus> cam, audio, messaging, email, spy tools
[05:14] <Geekneeus> anyway, wrong topic for the channel ;)
[05:15] <aleron> #koffice
[05:15] <xiambax> Geekneeus. Nothing is as bad as the NSA key
[05:17] <Geekneeus> heh, nothing suprises me with Microsoft.
[05:17] <Geekneeus> actually, with any operating system I'm always cautious
[05:17] <Thorsten11> Geekneeus: what big brother tools are you refering to?  I use skype regularily and you have made my eye brow raise
[05:18] <yoophglup> i like this advertisement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpOvzGiheOM
[05:18] <Geekneeus> Thorsten11: http://www.megapanzer.com/
[05:19] <stanley> Windows 7 is the best so far. I've moved to it from XP and can't be happier.
[05:19] <stanley> We can all hate on Windows as much as we want but it's a necessary evil for most of us to have a copy of it running somewhere.
[05:20] <Geekneeus> Thorsten11: look at tools and sources and the images at the bottom
[05:20] <Guest38316> Tinyirc has no tab completion, neeeexxxt
[05:20] <xiambax> Geekneeus, its call openBSD
[05:20] <xiambax> True Security
[05:21] <Geekneeus> xiambax: no such thing:P
[05:21] <xiambax> Install a default install of openbsd
[05:21] <TBird> i saw an irc app in the repo the other day that sounded interesting... had two halves so you could do bnc style stuff
[05:21] <xiambax> and try to hack it
[05:21] <maco> xiambax: there is no such thing as perfect security. period. there is only risk assessment
[05:22] <Geekneeus> xiambax: I've used BSD before, but I also know nothing is 100% secure. The minute you believe you're 100% secure, you're insecure
[05:22] <maco> xiambax: well one of the tenants of security is "availability." i dont think installing OpenBSD prevents me from stealing the power cord
[05:22] <xiambax> This is true I suppose
[05:22] <Geekneeus> xiambax: where there's a will, there's a way
[05:22] <xiambax> True
[05:23] <xiambax> Are you guys conical employees?
[05:23] <maco> no
[05:23] <Geekneeus> xiambax: no
[05:23] <TBird> Quassel, was it
[05:23] <maco> just random folks
[05:23] <xiambax> Fair
[05:23] <maco> TBird: im using it
[05:23] <TBird> maco: work well?
[05:23] <stanley> xiambax: Besides. The biggest flaw in security for _any_ system is the human element
[05:24] <TBird> i run mirc in a vm :(
[05:24] <maco> TBird: you can either use "quassel" as standalone or you can have a quassel core on a server and then connect to it with quassel client. thats similar to having irssi in screen and ssh'ing to it...except that you get a gui. but you get the irssi/screen/ssh benefit of being always online and always having scrollback
[05:24] <stanley> Doesn't matter how secure your servers are, your people are generally the weakest link!
[05:24] <xiambax> TBird, Whats wrong with x-chat?
[05:24] <TBird> more a matter of being what im used to
[05:24] <maco> TBird: im using quassel client and connecting to a quassel core on a friend's server. i like being able to see what i missed while i was asleep / eating / studying
[05:24] <Geekneeus> xiambax: What's wrong with irssi
[05:24] <xiambax> True
[05:24] <xiambax> or BitchX
[05:25] <TBird> maco: yeah, i run mirc in a vm at home and rdp to it for much the same effect
[05:25] <Geekneeus> indeed, I prefer irssi though
[05:25] <coastertal> anybody up for helping an uber-newbie?
[05:26] <infid> how come i dont see 'gconf-editor' from the menu in jaunty?
[05:26] <Geekneeus> coastertal: no sorry
[05:26] <maco> infid: its not installed by default...
[05:26] <maco> coastertal: just ask your question
[05:26] <maco> coastertal: if anyone knows the answer, theyll speak up
[05:26] <maco> coastertal: and Geekneeus is joking (i hope)
[05:26] <xiambax> I started with redhat 6, xchat was the first irc client i used
[05:26] <aneesh> infid: You need to install it from synaptic or add or remove program
[05:27] <yoophglup> i use Xchat its cool
[05:27] <coastertal> well i have no sound.  speakers work fine but they don't work in ubuntu
[05:27] <infid> aneesh: i have it installed, i can run it from the commandline
[05:27] <maco> coastertal: first check everything's unmuted. if it is, file a bug
[05:27] <infid> i manually added it to my menu now
[05:28] <engineer> hi to all
[05:28] <maco> coastertal: master, front, pcm, iec958 (or whatever thats called, i always get it wrong)....all volume up and unmuted
[05:28] <aneesh> infid: Did you check the system tool in the start menu?...
[05:28] <sarthor> HiHI, i am dialing my pppoe-server on 9.06 ubuntu (LAN), from the xp client, so not connecting, only one user name and password can connect, not other,  Error is here, http://pastebin.org/48298
[05:28] <Geekneeus> I don't like too many GUI apps
[05:28] <engineer> my nokia 2630 some animated themes doesnt works? any idea whats problem?
[05:28] <yoophglup> coastertal did you check your default sound under system->preferences->sound
[05:28] <xiambax> Its weird to think iv been using linux for 10 years
[05:29] <Geekneeus> xiambax: longer than me :P
[05:29] <xiambax> Yeah. I lost touch though. I lost half my braincells doing drugs in my younger years lol
[05:29] <Geekneeus> xiambax: I've only been using computers for 8 years
[05:29] <xiambax> So im trying to catch up now
[05:30] <neosimago> having two boxes plugged into the same switch with a a local router at <IP_ADDRESS> statically assigning each IP addresses. One box at <IP_ADDRESS> the other at <IP_ADDRESS>. the 102 box pings 100 fine, but not the other way around. where should I start looking for why?
[05:30] <yoophglup> sound issues drive me nuts. I have a usb sound card and an internal one took me all day to get the sound to come out the speaker and skype to come out the usb phone
[05:31] <Billiard> neosimago: firewall on the 102 box?
[05:31] <Geekneeus> yoophglup: I had sound issues yesterday, after I uninstalled GDM, then I reinstalled it and sound came back.. no idea why
[05:31] <maco> yoophglup: so you eventually found pavucontrol, im guessing?
[05:31] <xiambax> Blocking pings?
[05:31]  * maco hides from the audio dicussions
[05:31] <xiambax> Running stealth ?
[05:31]  * maco lives with the guy that handled ubuntu audio for years. hears the rants in person too often.
[05:32] <neosimago> Billiard: 102 is running a default ubuntu with KDE4.
[05:32] <xiambax> yoophglup, pulseaudio my friend
[05:32] <Geekneeus> neosimago: Why type of ping is blocked? what firewall do you use?
[05:32] <yoophglup> no i setup up one with pulse audio and one with alsa, works good except I can't record with sound recorder unless i use the sound card, i wanted to use the phone but oh well.
[05:32] <Geekneeus> what*
[05:33] <Geekneeus> argh 5:30 am tired ;P
[05:33] <neosimago> Geekneeus: there are different types of pings? it's just in a local switch.
[05:33] <Geekneeus> neosimago: there are, pings/probes I wont go into them
[05:33] <xiambax> I dont wanna go to work tomorrow :(
[05:33] <xiambax> so i feel your pain
[05:34] <neosimago> Billiard: portmap is running on the 102 box... would that block pings?
[05:34] <krummlauf> how do i change this ugly screen
[05:35] <krummlauf> color scheme is terrible
[05:35] <xiambax> yeah portmap may be
[05:35] <xiambax> if its the only differing variable it could very well be
[05:35] <vigo> !screen
[05:35] <bastid_raZor> !themes | krummlauf 9.04 and below
[05:35] <vigo> whoops
[05:36] <saracen1> hi
[05:36] <neosimago> The reason i ask because it worked fiine before, and I use it to resolve hostnames through my router, which mounts local NFS4 directories.
[05:36] <xiambax> krummlauf, you can customize a lot. here is one of my screenshots http://i33.tinypic.com/20jrec7.png
[05:37] <Geekneeus> neosimago: if 102 pings 100, then either 100 may be blocking pings from 102, or 100 may be blocking pings. It's hard to say what the cause is though without knowing anything
[05:38] <saracen1> i got a homework sort of question if anyone wanted to help out, the task is basically to create a cron at 1am everyday to backup one folder to a tape drive using TAR, but i want to do it so that there is a script that will check if the drive exists etc, can someone help ?
[05:39] <neosimago> Geekneeus: what's even more strange is that 100 is not resolving local hostnames.
[05:39] <DigitalKiwi> !homework
[05:39] <neosimago> like it wont ping localrouter, or activebox2, box number 102.
[05:39] <xiambax> !Zombies
[05:39] <vigo> !backup
[05:39] <xiambax> You don't know anything about zombies?!
[05:39] <neosimago> however 102 resolves activebox, box 100 fine.
[05:40] <neosimago> all connected on the same switch, with a DDWRT localrouter on <IP_ADDRESS>.
[05:40] <Geekneeus> neosimago: I wouldn't think portmap is the problem. What is 100?
[05:40] <Geekneeus> neosimago: What kind of device?
[05:41] <neosimago> <IP_ADDRESS> is a local file server.
[05:41] <xiambax> this youtube concert is amazing!
[05:41] <saracen1> vigo: thanks for the links, the main problem i am having trouble with is checking if the tape drive exists, and maybe write to a log file about the status
[05:41] <Geekneeus> neosimago: and you have no firewalls running?
[05:42] <Geekneeus> neosimago: just portmap on one?
[05:42] <krummlauf> ok
[05:42] <krummlauf> i just redid the appearance
[05:42] <krummlauf> it looks slightly better
[05:42] <xiambax> gripe gripe gripe :D
[05:42] <saracen1> for instance how do i check is /dev/sda is available for writing and then perform the backup ?
[05:43] <neosimago> sigh... resolv.conf
[05:43] <vigo> saracen1: Might be a cron job or startup type script to /ping the other box,
[05:43] <ubuntuGr> how i can add a script to run auth by chkconfig ?
[05:43] <neosimago> box 100 had it pointing to itself as the nameserver.
[05:43] <saracen1> its on the same box i think
[05:43] <neosimago> how did that happen?
[05:43] <saracen1> actually let me paste it so you know what is asked, as you can see i am trying to do a better job
[05:44] <Geekneeus> neosimago: probably your network manager tool
[05:44] <prince_jammys> saracen1: so what happens if it's not writable?
[05:44] <xiambax> pibkec
[05:44] <xiambax> pibka
[05:44] <saracen1> give me a sec guys
[05:44] <xiambax> fml
[05:44] <vigo>  !pastebin
[05:44] <ubuntuGr> guys
[05:44] <xiambax> !fml
[05:44] <Hetor`> FML: Sorry - pattern match failed.
[05:44] <DigitalKiwi> saracen1: sudo fdisk -l|grep "/dev/sda4"
[05:44] <xiambax> I need to educate our bot
[05:44] <ubuntuGr> i wanna add in chkconfig a script with name flex
[05:44] <ubuntuGr> how i can do that?
[05:45] <maco> Hetor`: are you a bot?
[05:45] <Geekneeus> neosimago: WICD, network-manager both annoy me when they overwrite my resolv.conf
[05:45] <ubuntuGr> no i am not
[05:45] <Hetor`> maco: lulz
[05:45] <maco> ubuntuGr: i didnt ask you....
[05:45] <Hetor`> no
[05:45] <neosimago> resolvconf is the tool that configures resolv.conf. yea, where is the settings for setting resolvconf?
[05:45] <xiambax> Hetor', what is the time?
[05:45] <xiambax> oh
[05:45] <prince_jammys> !fml
[05:45] <xiambax> no botzenz
[05:45] <xiambax> !fml
[05:45] <Geekneeus> !sex
[05:45] <Hetor`> FML: Sorry - pattern match failed.
[05:45] <xiambax> See, bot!
[05:45] <Hetor`> FML: Sorry - pattern match failed.
[05:45] <Hetor`> eh
[05:46] <Hetor`> why you asking?
[05:46] <maco> neosimago: if you have resolvconf installed (which youdont by default), its in /etc/resolvconf/
[05:46] <prince_jammys> Hetor`: turn it off.
[05:46] <saracen1> here you go guys http://pastebin.org/48302
[05:46] <prince_jammys> hehe.
[05:46] <Hetor`> wtf are you talking about?
[05:46] <maco> Hetor`: your pattern matching. stop it
[05:46] <saracen1> i just need to create a solid script that will create the backup and store some information about the status in say a log of some kind
[05:46] <Hetor`> O_________o what?
[05:46] <Hetor`> I really have no idea what are you talking about
[05:47] <prince_jammys> cute.
[05:47] <saracen1> DigitalKiwi: testing the command
[05:47] <xiambax> Bootzen the botzen see.
[05:47] <maco> Flannel: you around, mate?
[05:48] <Geekneeus> saracen1: you want us to make you a script?
[05:48] <saracen1> no
[05:48] <saracen1> just some pointers like what DigitalKiwi said
[05:48] <prince_jammys> (yes)
[05:48] <saracen1> like the commands i need to use etc
[05:48] <saracen1> such as fdisk as he mentioned
[05:48] <xiambax> is Digital Kiwi also go by Kiwi?
[05:48] <math1979> and the order
[05:48] <prince_jammys> "i want you to write it, and me to type it. That way I wrote it"
[05:49] <saracen1> or if you are up for it you can ofcourse help out and give me a quick script , hehe
[05:49] <saracen1> i wouldnt say no to that
[05:49] <prince_jammys> hehe
[05:49] <prince_jammys> !ubuntu | saracen1
[05:49] <prince_jammys> !#ubuntu
[05:49] <prince_jammys> meh. "wrong channel"
[05:49] <Flannel> !fml
[05:49] <DigitalKiwi> xiambax: I do but not on freenode
[05:50] <Geekneeus> saracen1: man cpio, man tar, man cron
[05:50] <Hetor`> FML: Sorry - pattern match failed.
[05:50] <xiambax> I know you from somewhere
[05:50] <DigitalKiwi> xiambax: where's that?
[05:50] <saracen1> Geekneeus: i got the cron part and tar, its only either tar or cpio that has to be used so i am going with tar
[05:50] <xiambax> I have no idea, efnet, waffles, oswd?
[05:50] <saracen1> just the checking of the drives etc
[05:50] <neosimago> darn. i think squid bind is affecting resolvconfig to resolving box 100 as a dns server.
[05:51] <xiambax> or whatever was big before freenode
[05:51] <xiambax> it was O something or other
[05:51] <xiambax> openprojects?
[05:51] <DigitalKiwi> for irc I'm only on oftc in #awesome, freenode, and irc.nexuswar. the last is the only one I'm kiwi in
[05:52] <xiambax> must be another kiwi
[05:52] <xiambax> probably was oftc
[05:52] <xiambax> mind you im old and change my handle every year
[05:52] <xiambax> Usta go by SystemX
[05:53] <xiambax> bleedapathy, i am ba, ba,
[05:53] <jore> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[05:53] <Geekneeus> saracen1: It seems you need to tar a folder, every day at 1 a.m and put it onto another device? except saturday and sundays
[05:53] <saracen1> Geekneeus:  yeah i got the cron part
[05:53] <roger2> how do i make VLC default player for DVDs
[05:54] <Geekneeus> saracen1: So what do you need to check drives for? Disk space?
[05:54] <prince_jammys> don't check anything. attempt to perform the backup, and the tool will error out.
[05:54] <saracen1> Geekneeus: and it would probably be done using a one liner on the cron its self, like tar /dev/whatever /dev/sda  sort of thing
[05:54] <saracen1> but instead i thought ill use a script as a command
[05:55] <Geekneeus> saracen1: if you can make a script it should only take you 2 minutes
[05:55] <krsna> Where can i deactivate the  automatic updates? everybody says its in synaptic but i cant find it
[05:55] <saracen1> and in the script, it checks if the drive is mounted astleast, then if it is do the tar then write to the end of a log file success on date, if not write to the log failed
[05:55] <prince_jammys> attempt to perform the backup, and report error if tar exits with error.
[05:55] <vigo> roger2: System:Preferences:Prefered Applications
[05:55] <prince_jammys> saracen1: don't check if it's mounted, there's no point.
[05:55] <saracen1> then what should i do
[05:56] <saracen1> its a tape drive
[05:56] <neosimago> thanks all who replied. .. . i forgot this box was used for dns some time ago, and resolvconfig would point to itself.
[05:56] <prince_jammys> saracen1: tar it and report an error if tar exits with error
[05:56] <Geekneeus> saracen1: make it do the basic functions, then worry about what else you should do :P
[05:56] <prince_jammys> don't waste time with pointless checks
[05:56] <lstarnes> krsna: system > administration > software sources > updates
[05:56] <prince_jammys> saracen1: are you going to mount it if it's not mounted?
[05:56] <saracen1> ah ok, that seems more sensible then
[05:56] <saracen1> no
[05:56] <prince_jammys> saracen1: then there's no point.
[05:57] <Shtl> Hello all
[05:57] <saracen1> ok prince_jammys ill do it the way you suggested then
[05:57] <saracen1> it does make more sense
[05:57] <Shtl> i want to download the ubuntu Karmic repositories only with deb mirror, how can i do this please????
[05:58] <lstarnes> Shtl: #ubuntu+1 is for karmic
[05:58] <saracen1> thanks for the help guys i think i got it now
[05:58] <krsna> lstarnes thx. i was in this menu, but i cant find it even here. if i deactive "automati updates" in the window you indicated, still i am asked for updates... if i check "daily" i am still asked more than daily ...
[05:58] <DigitalKiwi> saracen1: can I see what you have?
[05:59] <lstarnes> krsna: so you never want to update or be asked for updates?
[05:59] <krsna> "+
[05:59] <Geekneeus> I have trouble sleeping.
[05:59] <krsna> lstarnes (typo). yes. no asking for updates
[05:59] <saracen1> DigitalKiwi: i didnt write the 1 minute script yet, but i think i know what to do
[05:59] <Rabbitbunny> Geekneeus: #defocus
[05:59] <hadean> Can someone tell if i can make a script that takes the focus to the Terminal and runs a command? Need it for saving time @ coding...
[05:59] <lstarnes> krsna: then uncheck the "check for updates" bnx
[05:59] <lstarnes> *box
[06:00] <Geekneeus> Rabbitbunny: heh, was waiting for a channel suggestion :)
[06:00] <Rabbitbunny> hadean: You don't need a script, man gnome-terminal, specifically the -e flag.
[06:00] <lstarnes> krsna: but remember that disabling all updates may lead to huge security risks associated with outdated packages
[06:00] <prince_jammys> saracen1: i wouldn't suppress tar's error message either, if you are using your own custom one. redirect both tar's stderr and your message to the log.
[06:00] <hadean> Rabbitbunny: thanks a lot
[06:00] <saracen1> prince_jammys: ok that seems like a good idea
[06:01] <krsna> lstarnes i have unchecked the "check for updates" box, thats what i am saying... this menu seems not to work
[06:01] <hadean> Rabbitbunny: Not a thing of my Window-manager (metacity) ?
[06:01] <lstarnes> krsna: what about it doesn't work?
[06:01] <krsna> lstarnes it still asks me
[06:02] <lstarnes> krsna: how often?
[06:02] <hadean> like ... changing the focus to another window?
[06:02] <Rabbitbunny> hadean: Hmm, got me there, you're going to have to find what it uses instead of gnome-terminal, and finds its' -e flag.
[06:02] <krsna> lstarnes on boot-up, after editing sources.list and so on. and more often than daily
[06:03] <lstarnes> krsna: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[06:03] <SunilThaha> Hi all, is it safe to run fsck on '/' ?
[06:03] <vigo> krana: Not really relevant, but it makes sense as the question is posed: http://artlung.com/smorgasborg/C_R_Y_P_T_O_N_O_M_I_C_O_N.shtml  ,,, is a good read also.
[06:03] <krsna> lstarnes jauntyx
[06:03] <krsna> *jaunty*
[06:04] <lstarnes> krsna: have you installed any of the updates?
[06:04] <Flannel> SunilThaha: You need to do it while / isn't mounted.  While booting is an easy way to do it.
[06:04] <Flannel> !fsck | SunilThaha
[06:04] <krsna> lstarnes yes
[06:04] <hadean> Rabbitbunny: The problem is that i cant find any documentation of metacity that goes further than documentation...
[06:04] <lstarnes> krsna: it could be an issue with the cron scripts used with it or with the update notifier appler
[06:04] <hadean> is compiz an idea?
[06:04] <lstarnes> *applet
[06:04] <SunilThaha> ubottu: thank you, that was short and sweet :)
[06:04] <krsna> lstarnes i can see that avoiding this popup can only be done by deleting the updates lines in souces.list
[06:05] <meimei> meimei
[06:05] <lstarnes> krsna: there may be another way
[06:05] <meimei> hello
[06:05] <krsna> lstarnes how can i repair the update nofifier appler
[06:05] <lstarnes> krsna: applet
[06:05] <SunilThaha> Flannel: is ubottu  a bot ?
[06:05] <lstarnes> SunilThaha: yes
[06:05] <vigo> !best bot
[06:06] <Flannel> SunilThaha: yes
[06:06] <SunilThaha> :)
[06:06] <oobe> !fart
[06:06] <SunilThaha> :D
[06:06] <vigo> !bot abuse
[06:06] <oobe> !msgthebot
[06:06] <krsna> lstarnes the cron jobs are crazy here anyway.
[06:07] <vigo> There is also an online Ubottu.
[06:07] <lstarnes> krsna: right-click on the applet and see if the "show notifications" box is checked
[06:08] <krsna> lstarnes what applet?
[06:08] <lstarnes> krsna: the update notifier applet
[06:08] <krsna> lstarnes ? is this the window we were talking about?
[06:09] <lstarnes> krsna: no
[06:09] <lstarnes> krsna: the applet that displays the update popups
[06:10] <knoppies> !msgthebot
[06:10] <knoppies> that makes very little sense.
[06:11] <krsna> lstarnes. ok. ic. if i remember correctly it is the same window as the one we were talking about. i will go for the cronjobs rather
[06:11] <lstarnes> krsna: no
[06:11] <SunilThaha> Flannel: sudo shutdown -F -r now didn't force a fsck
[06:11] <lstarnes> krsna: it is not the software sources window
[06:11] <SunilThaha> any idea why?
[06:11] <Flannel> SunilThaha: What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[06:11] <lstarnes> krsna: check there before messing with the cronjobs
[06:11] <SunilThaha> Jaunty
[06:11] <krsna> lstarnes so how can i see the update notifier applet?
[06:11] <ubuntuGr> guys when i am trying to do apt-get install fuser i get nothing
[06:12] <Flannel> SunilThaha: Interesting.  Try this: "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now"
[06:12] <lstarnes> krsna: update the package list.  if there are updates and the applet is working, it should appear in one of the panels
[06:12] <Flannel> SunilThaha: (that'll reboot)
[06:12] <SunilThaha> let me check
[06:12] <SunilThaha> Flannel: is it safe to use ext4 ?
[06:13] <krsna> lstarnes  i am a linuxer. i do apt-get update and no popup :)
[06:13] <knoppies> is there a way to search for a PID by process name?
[06:13] <lstarnes> knoppies: ps aux | grep name or pgrep name
[06:13] <SunilThaha> Flannel:  I read its faster, so chose that for my external HDD
[06:13] <krsna> lstarnes so how i see the update notifier applet?
[06:13] <knoppies> thanks lstarnes
[06:13] <lstarnes> krsna: when updates are available it should appear automatically
[06:14] <lstarnes> krsna: it appears only when updates are available or when it detects another package manager working or when it finds update errors
[06:14] <krsna> lstarnes ic . well, thanks a lot for your help. it is really kind of you
[06:14] <Flannel> SunilThaha: ext4 isn't safe until Karmic really.  Jaunty users suffered dataloss occasionally
[06:15] <SunilThaha> Flannel: Ooops thats scary
[06:15] <ubuntuGr> Flannel whats the difference between Karmic and Jaunty ?
[06:15] <SunilThaha> kernel ?
[06:15] <lstarnes> ubuntuGr: karmic = 9.10, jaunty = 9.04
[06:15] <ubuntuGr> aaa its name of version?
[06:16] <lstarnes> ubuntuGr: they're different versions
[06:16] <SunilThaha> ubuntuGr: the next version starts with the letter - L
[06:16] <SunilThaha> its incremental - j, k, ...
[06:17] <SunilThaha> Flannel: worked :), thank you
[06:24] <Andorin> When I run ls -l, I get columns... permissions, a username, a username, a multi-digit number, date of last edit of the file, and the file name. Can someone tell me what significance the usernames have and the multi-digit number? I don't see it in the man page.
[06:25] <vox> Andorin: the first username is the owner, the second username is the group
[06:25] <Andorin> vox: Alright, thanks... what about the number?
[06:26] <vox> Andorin: size in bytes
[06:26] <trilok> hello friends
[06:26] <Andorin> Thank you.
[06:27] <krummaluf> hi
[06:27] <trilok> can any tel me how to install adobeflashplayer in ubuntu9.04
[06:27] <speedxxxcore> What to type, to sync against ntp?
[06:27] <krummaluf> whats beryls official website?
[06:28] <maco> krummaluf: beryl doesnt exist anymore
[06:28] <krummaluf> o
[06:28] <krummaluf> y?
[06:28] <maco> krummaluf: it merged with compiz maybe 1.5 yr ago?
[06:28] <krummaluf> o
[06:28] <krummaluf> do they still offer free themes and stuff?
[06:28] <maco> no longer...2y at least
[06:28] <hanzomon4> krummaluf: it's compiz-fusion now
[06:28] <krummaluf> well well
[06:28] <trilok> can any tel me how to install adobeflashplayer in ubuntu9.04
[06:29] <maco> you can get themes for emerald, the beryl/compiz window decorator on gnome-look, yes...but emerald is unsupported upstream and tends to just crash a lot (like it always has)
[06:29] <SandGorgon> hi guys.. some urgent help required.. we have a rackspace windows machine that we connect to using linux tsclient. They recently switched to using RDP over ssl - can i use tsclient to connect to RDP+ssl ?
[06:29] <crohakon> Is there a program I can use to show me my computers specs?
[06:29] <krummaluf> hm
[06:29] <maco> crohakon: umm "sudo lshw" will tell you everything about you hardware
[06:29] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone tell me how i can do servlets and jsp programming on eclipse editor...i just want to know what plugins are required
[06:29] <crohakon> something more gui
[06:29] <krummaluf> gnome look eh
[06:30] <krummaluf> yes i downloaded emerald
[06:30] <krummaluf> its gonna chimp out on me?
[06:30] <maco> krummaluf: gtk-window-decorator and kde-window-decorator are the normal decorators now. they use standard metacity & kwin themes
[06:30] <krummaluf> oh
[06:30] <maco> krummaluf: which, again... gnome-look.org, kde-look.org
[06:31] <krummaluf> which one is better
[06:31] <krummaluf> i dont got time to jibba jabba
[06:31] <maco> krummaluf: are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[06:31] <krummaluf> ubuntu
[06:31] <krummaluf> jaunty jackalope
[06:31] <maco> krummaluf: then go to gnome-look
[06:31] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone tell me how i can do servlets and jsp programming on eclipse editor...i just want to know what plugins are required
[06:32] <maco> PerryArmstrong: i think there's an eclipse channel...
[06:32] <krummaluf> i want this computer to look sexy
[06:32] <krummaluf> u know what im sayin
[06:32] <krummaluf> DEAD SEXY
[06:32] <maco> PerryArmstrong: there's definitely a java channel
[06:32] <FloodBot3> krummaluf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:32] <maco> krummaluf: id switch to kde then ;)
[06:32] <PerryArmstrong> maco; and there's definitely an ubuntu channel.. and I am on ubuntu
[06:33] <maco> PerryArmstrong: but youre asking a java programming question
[06:33] <PerryArmstrong> maco; okk ya....
[06:33] <krummaluf> o
[06:33] <krummaluf> kde is way sexier huh?
[06:33] <maco> PerryArmstrong: so it might make more sense to ask java programmers, not a bunch of people who just wanna get their printers working
[06:33] <krummaluf> is it compatible with this software?
[06:33] <vox> krummaluf: yes
[06:33] <maco> krummaluf: sure. apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:33] <maco> krummaluf: you can use kde apps in gnome and gnome apps in kde
[06:33] <PerryArmstrong> maco; hehe the channel has many people but there seems noone to reply since long time
[06:34] <vox> PerryArmstrong: you'll need to wait for an answer or use some google-foo
[06:34] <vigo> PerryArmstrong: Is that a QT4 thing or JR6?
[06:35] <PerryArmstrong> vigo; i dont know whats QT4 and JR6...do you mean JRE6??
[06:35] <julien> anyway to enable xdmc easyly?
[06:36] <vigo> PerryArmstrong: Yes, my apologies, I was snickering at the xox google-foo comment.
[06:36] <vigo> Is still funny...
[06:36] <maco> krummaluf: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_D1EpnOVJuA8/So7qCpHFM1I/AAAAAAAACyk/D7aPAwq1DIY/s400/kubuntu_karmic_01.png heres a screenshot of the version of kubuntu thats coming out on thursday
[06:37] <krummaluf> ok
[06:37] <krummaluf> good call then
[06:37] <PerryArmstrong> vigo; well i am learning servlets and jsp as part of my academics...in college we use eclipse, tomcat and jre6 on windows environment. I want to try it on my ubuntu...but then i have no idea
[06:38] <maco> haha at my school we werent supposed to use eclipse because its too hand-holding. we were told "go use emacs" but i used vi instead
[06:39] <krummaluf> why is this thing asking me if im root
[06:39] <krummaluf> of course im f***ing root
[06:39] <fool__> PerryArmstrong: sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre eclipse tomcat6
[06:40] <knoppies> krummaluf, use prepend 'sudo' in front of your command. (without the quotes)
[06:40] <PerryArmstrong> fool__; whats next??
[06:40] <exodus_ms> lol, I log into here and the 1st thing I see is "of course im f***ing root" ah, ubuntu irc help never changes :P
[06:40] <fool__> PerryArmstrong: open your browser, point to localhost:8080
[06:40] <aziest> hi
[06:40] <vigo> PerryArmstrong: Yes, is JR, http://www.javalobby.org/java/forums/t17843 that is a kind of Windows link/blog,
[06:41] <PerryArmstrong> fool__; since tomcat is installed i can see the page
[06:41] <fool__> PerryArmstrong: ok then everything's setup
[06:42] <PerryArmstrong> fool__; tomcat was already installed...jre and eclipse are still downloading
[06:43] <joebodo_> PerryArmstrong, im not sure if the repo has been updated - but the eclipse was really old when i tried it
[06:44] <joebodo_> PerryArmstrong, i went and downloaded from the eclipse site instead (after attempting to upgrade it without success - and many hours lost)
[06:44] <xaxxon> is there a "bloated"/ultimate version of ubuntu?
[06:44] <xaxxon> I"m kinda sick of having to load up each individual thing I want to use
[06:44] <maco> xaxxon: officially, no. on the internet, yes
[06:44] <PerryArmstrong> joebodo_; oh somehow i want to run servlets and jsp successfully
[06:44] <xaxxon> sorry, common-program-x is not installed.  run apt-get
[06:44] <xaxxon> sorry, common-program-y is not installed.  run apt-get
[06:44] <xaxxon> sorry, common-program-z is not installed.  run apt-get
[06:44] <xaxxon> ...and on and on
[06:44] <FloodBot3> xaxxon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:45] <xaxxon> that's EXACTLY how I feel, floodbiot
[06:45] <joebodo_> PerryArmstrong, you want the web developer version of eclipse - i recommend downloading the prepackaged version from the website
[06:45] <maco> !ultimate
[06:45] <maco> xaxxon: ^
[06:45] <xaxxon> nod
[06:45] <vigo> xaxxon: UbuntuStudio is a heavyweight. sorta.
[06:45] <krummaluf> I AM ROOT
[06:45] <maco> xaxxon: so yes it exists, but...
[06:46] <maco> krummaluf: good for you?
[06:46] <joebodo_> krummaluf, you did "sudo -i" to become root ?
[06:46] <PerryArmstrong> joebodo_; whats that...
[06:46] <maco> krummaluf: the first user in ubuntu isnt root...and there is no root password...so usually youd have to sudo unless you set a password for root and then logged in as it
[06:46] <icarus-c> sudo su -
[06:46] <joebodo_> PerryArmstrong, one sec - ill find the url
[06:46] <krummaluf> i did sudo
[06:46] <icarus-c> maco: there is root
[06:47] <krummaluf> just by itself
[06:47] <krummaluf> is that bad?
[06:47] <maco> icarus-c: root is locked by default
[06:47] <maco> krummaluf: then you didnt run anything as root
[06:47] <vigo> !sudo
[06:47] <krummaluf> is that bad?
[06:47] <maco> krummaluf: youhave to tell sudo what you want to run
[06:47] <maco> krummaluf: otherwise it just doesnt do anything
[06:47] <krummaluf> well its installing kde desktop right now
[06:48] <vox> xaxxon: there's dvd releases. download that instead?
[06:48] <PerryArmstrong> joebodo_; okk
[06:48] <xaxxon> hrmm.. quite possibly
[06:48] <vox> either way, you're downloading it at some point.
[06:49] <icarus-c> what is different between ubuntu and debian sid?
[06:49] <xaxxon> vox: web page says dvd is mostly just other language
[06:49] <joebodo_> PerryArmstrong, http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/
[06:49] <chilli0> Hello , I updated yesterday and my graphics card now doesnt load or something. It a nvidia . Anyone know how to fix?
[06:49] <vox> xaxxon: fair enough
[06:49] <oobe> icarus-c, hmm why debian sid why not just debian?
[06:49] <fool__> icarus-c: more spit n polish
[06:49] <chilli0> Also , how can i see what type of video card it is?
[06:49] <xaxxon> I want something that comes with editors and compilers and such
[06:49] <icarus-c> oobe: coz ubuntu is based on sid
[06:49] <joebodo_> PerryArmstrong, you want to pick jave EE Developers version - that one contains the web tools
[06:50] <xaxxon> get the top 100 things people apt-get and put them with it
[06:50] <xaxxon> or something.  anyhoo, I'm fine.  just annoying a bit
[06:50] <fool__> icarus-c: and a few ubuntu specifics like one backup system, etc..
[06:50] <vox> xaxxon: that's not going to be installed by default - majority of people arent going to use them.
[06:50] <xaxxon> me and not having the software already
[06:50] <babbio> i  downloaded a film and a have some files like "name.z01, name.z02......,name.zip" how to uncompress them???
[06:50] <oobe> icarus-c, sid is really old
[06:50] <maco> xaxxon: install build-essential and youll have compilers
[06:50] <xaxxon> ok
[06:50] <vigo> chilli0: lspci , i think
[06:50] <jhotta> #ploneconf2009
[06:50] <icarus-c> chilli0: lspci -v
[06:51] <chilli0> thanks.
[06:51] <vigo> Thank you
[06:51] <fool__> oobe: sid is bleeding edge
[06:51] <krummaluf> so whats ur favorite sexy desktop theme?
[06:51] <PerryArmstrong> joebodo_; okk so because of my ignorance can i ask you: does jsp and servlets come under this J2EE or JEE
[06:51] <icarus-c> oobe: um... afaik, ubuntu grab debian SID regularly and work there
[06:51] <PerryArmstrong> joebodo_; and suppose if i install this version and if i in future want to program php also...do i need to download another version??
[06:51] <maco> krummaluf: could you use a word other than sexy? because if you keep using that word, i expect playboy/playgirl models will be suggested
[06:52] <oobe> icarus-c, oh ok
[06:52] <joebodo_> PerryArmstrong, you should just be able to add the php related tools to your eclipse
[06:52] <maco> krummaluf: pretty? shiny? dark? bright? colourful?
[06:53] <krummaluf> maco: dark
[06:53] <krummaluf> u kno real sharp look
[06:53] <PerryArmstrong> joebodo_; okk so you mean the one which i am downloading now is the normal eclipse with the j2EE plugin??
[06:53] <maco> krummaluf: oh! right so in kde there's a thing called Get Hot New Stuff. itll let you browse themes and download them 1-click install
[06:53] <vigo> !offtopic | ktummaluf
[06:54] <joebodo_> PerryArmstrong, the one from the repo was so outdated i did not try and develop with it -
[06:54] <krummaluf> o ok
[06:54] <krummaluf> sexy
[06:54] <PerryArmstrong> joebodo_; okk so you are sure if i want to develop php.. i can just add this php plugin
[06:54] <vox> krummaluf: seriously, stop that
[06:54] <quaredscube> When 9.10 comes out, can I upgrade my previous version to it (I run 8.04)?
[06:55] <chemjeff> Hello - anybody have time for an installation question?
[06:55] <quaredscube> Or do I have to reinstall?
[06:55] <trilok> ubutto can u please tel me how to connect gprs in ubuntu 9.04
[06:55] <vox> chemjeff: sure
[06:55] <joebodo_> PerryArmstrong, yes - you can add support for just about anything to your install
[06:55] <XelticSore> ehum hi guys.
[06:55] <maco> quaredscube: youll have to upgrade through the other versions
[06:55] <XelticSore> can any1 tell me how to change an irc channel
[06:55] <XelticSore> sry, go easy on me - new to this stuff
[06:55] <chemjeff> Okay, well I am trying to install Ubuntu 8.04 Desktop on a system and it won't even get to the beginning, it bails out and gives me the Busybox shell.  What can I do?
[06:55] <PerryArmstrong> joebodo_; thanks...after downloading where do i need to put it??
[06:55] <maco> quaredscube: or reinstall. either one. skipping releases on upgrade is not supported except to go from one LTS to another. the next being 10.04
[06:56] <XelticSore> hello?
[06:56] <vox> chemjeff: use the -alternate cd
[06:56] <chemjeff> vox: I did, the same thing happens
[06:56] <maco> XelticSore: type "/join #newchannel"
[06:56] <XelticSore> no i mean
[06:56] <chemjeff> vox: It says that it can't mount the CD-ROM
[06:56] <XelticSore> How to change the channel like blabla.blabla.com
[06:56] <vox> chemjeff: uh..
[06:56] <maco> XelticSore: oh the server?
[06:56] <icarus-c> XelticSore: /server
[06:56] <XelticSore> oh ok
[06:56] <XelticSore> thanks! :)
[06:56] <maco> XelticSore: what client are you using?
[06:56] <XelticSore> im using XChat
[06:56] <vox> chemjeff: what hardware?
[06:56] <quaredscube> maco, so every 6 months I must reinstall?
[06:56] <joebodo_> PerryArmstrong, you can put it in either your home directory (like /home/xxxx/eclipse) or in /opt/eclipse
[06:56] <maco> quaredscube: you can upgrade
[06:57] <icarus-c> XelticSore: hit Ctrl+T
[06:57] <icarus-c> meh
[06:57] <maco> quaredscube: but you cannot upgrade from 8.04 to 9.10 because 8.10 and 9.04 happened in between
[06:57] <joebodo_> PerryArmstrong, it'll run in just about any location you unzip it to
[06:57] <maco> quaredscube: you can upgrade through 8.10 and 9.04
[06:57] <chemjeff> vox: Intel Core i7 920, Asus P6T Deluxe MB, 6 GB Corsair DDR3@1600 RAM, what else do you want to know?
[06:57] <PerryArmstrong> joebodo_; okk thats it right...thanks...i am leaving then as the xchat is taking much of my bandwidth
[06:57] <joebodo_> ok
[06:57] <maco> quaredscube: or every 6 months upgrade as new versions are released
[06:57] <maco> quaredscube: or every 2 years upgrade as new LTS versions are released
[06:57] <icarus-c> chemjeff: why not xeon
[06:58] <maco> quaredscube: but distances > 6 months and < 2 years require more work
[06:58] <chemjeff> icarus-c: Because I wanted the LGA 1366 socket
[06:58] <PerryArmstrong> joebodo_; cya then and thanks for the help...
[06:58] <maco> quaredscube: by upgrade through, i men tell 8.04 to go to 8.10, then tell 8.10 to go to 9.04, then tell 9.04 to go to 9.10
[06:58] <vox> chemjeff: thats.. very weird. i dont have an answer for that
[06:59] <PerryArmstrong> joebodo_; i was hit by this problem for more than a week and i couldn't get a solution...thanks once again
[06:59] <quaredscube> maco, does upgrading to the new 6 month version require manual effort on my part, or does Ubuntu include the necessaries when I use the update tools?
[06:59] <chemjeff> vox: I was able to install Gentoo on the same system but I can't install Ubuntu for some reason
[06:59] <PerryArmstrong> and thanks to others ....maco ans others who tried helping me
[06:59] <maco> quaredscube: its in the update tools
[06:59] <chemjeff> vox: I did an lspci and it is misassigning my PCI devices, it thinks my hard drive is a network card, etc. Could this be the problem?
[06:59] <maco> quaredscube: in system -> administration -> software sources, there is an option to either notify you about all new versions, only new LTS verisons, or not at all
[07:00] <quaredscube> maco, thanks
[07:00] <maco> quaredscube: set it to the all new versions setting, and it should offer to go to 8.10
[07:00] <maco> quaredscube: er the second it = the update manager
[07:00] <quaredscube> maco, why does it require more effort to upgrade to the next LTS?
[07:00] <vox> chemjeff: i'd wager that's a yes
[07:01] <maco> quaredscube: one LTS to the next LTS is a single upgrade. its easy
[07:01] <chemjeff> vox: Is there a way to correctly scan the PCI devices?
[07:01] <vox> chemjeff: might be something about the chipset that kernel doesnt like - check launchpad
[07:01] <maco> quaredscube: its when you want to go from 1 version to another where they are *not* both LTS and also not sequential that its more annoying
[07:02] <maco> quaredscube: the effort required to make skipping releases easy is somethng that is only expended for LTS
[07:03]  * icarus-c loves rolling release distro somehow
[07:04] <quaredscube> maco, what do you think of Mint?
[07:04] <maco> quaredscube: never tried it
[07:05] <icarus-c> quaredscube: it is ubuntu with more addons to enhance user experience
[07:05] <_JacK_> polling socket has returned, but read no one byte, what is the problem?
[07:05] <quaredscube> I know
[07:05] <quaredscube> But do you disagree with its principles?
[07:06] <icarus-c> quaredscube: what principle
[07:06] <icarus-c> quaredscube: it is just ubuntu with a different skin
[07:06] <quaredscube> It includes closed-source stuff too
[07:06] <U-b-u-n-t-u> whats the best way to find out the date a picture was taken with ubuntu?
[07:07] <icarus-c> U-b-u-n-t-u: date -r
[07:07] <maco> icarus-c: how does that make sense?
[07:07] <U-b-u-n-t-u> icarus-c, will that show when it was taken or when it was uploaded
[07:08] <icarus-c> modification time *may* tell
[07:08] <U-b-u-n-t-u> downloaded*
[07:08] <icarus-c> U-b-u-n-t-u: does the picture got tags
[07:08] <U-b-u-n-t-u> icarus-c, I have no idea
[07:08] <chemjeff> Well I will try it with Ubuntu 9.04 and I'll see what happens
[07:09] <icarus-c> U-b-u-n-t-u: i mean metadata
[07:09] <maco> U-b-u-n-t-u: what icarus-c said just shows today's date
[07:09] <icarus-c> maco: man date
[07:09] <U-b-u-n-t-u> aha
[07:09] <vigo> !man
[07:09] <icarus-c> -r, --reference=FILE
[07:09] <icarus-c>               display the last modification time of FILE
[07:09] <maco> icarus-c: ah ok. was thinking of date -R
[07:09] <icarus-c> lol
[07:09] <maco> U-b-u-n-t-u: the python exif tools may help
[07:10] <maco> U-b-u-n-t-u: lemme see how they work
[07:10] <U-b-u-n-t-u> icarus-c, if it was downloaded today then it will show the file as being todays date
[07:10] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I want to know if there is one that shows the actual date taken
[07:10] <icarus-c> U-b-u-n-t-u: try right click on the picture then see properties
[07:10] <U-b-u-n-t-u> icarus-c, I did that
[07:10] <U-b-u-n-t-u> shows todays date
[07:10] <icarus-c> U-b-u-n-t-u: gnome?
[07:10] <U-b-u-n-t-u> yes
[07:11] <icarus-c> U-b-u-n-t-u: look at the image tab
[07:11] <icarus-c> from nautilus
[07:11] <icarus-c> i mean when you look at properties
[07:11] <maco> U-b-u-n-t-u: ok got it
[07:11] <U-b-u-n-t-u> nice how?
[07:12] <maco> U-b-u-n-t-u: so if you want a way to script this, the exif package gets you the command exif. "exif -l file.jpg | grep date" will show you teh tags relating to the date
[07:12] <icarus-c> exif data is shown in Properties under image tab
[07:12] <maco> U-b-u-n-t-u: the 0x1234 thing on the left are what you need. "exif -t 0x1234 file.jpg"
[07:13] <maco> U-b-u-n-t-u: in the case of one of my files i had "0x9003 Date and Time (original)" so i did "exif -t 0x9003 file.jpg"
[07:13] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ok trying it now one sec
[07:13] <icarus-c> would exiv be a better tool?.....
[07:14] <icarus-c> hex number is scary
[07:14] <maco> icarus-c: if you wanna script it to death....
[07:15] <icarus-c> run exiv2 without any option would just print all meta data
[07:16] <U-b-u-n-t-u> um it came back with does not contain EXIF data!
[07:16] <icarus-c> U-b-u-n-t-u: hopeless then
[07:16] <maco> U-b-u-n-t-u: so its not the original file from the camera? gimp'd or something...
[07:17] <U-b-u-n-t-u> its from my cell phone
[07:17] <thecrush> hi
[07:17] <cycrosism> Is there a terminal command to see how much ram/cpu I am using
[07:17] <crohakon> top?
[07:17] <maco> cycrosism: "free -m" shows ram info
[07:17] <maco> cycrosism: in megabytes
[07:17] <thecrush> hi
[07:17] <h4ck3rz> hi all
[07:18] <cycrosism> Thanks crohakon and maco they both worked
[07:18] <thecrush> i'm a new ubuntu player
[07:18] <velko_> cycrosism, and "htop" is nicer than "top"
[07:18] <Rabbitbunny> when i run top I see compiz.real running. What is this and how do I turn it off?
[07:18] <U-b-u-n-t-u> this was the error
[07:18] <thecrush> can i ask somebody how to install ym here
[07:18] <maco> Rabbitbunny: thats your compositing window manager
[07:18] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Corrupt data (ExifLoader):
[07:18] <U-b-u-n-t-u> The data supplied does not seem to contain EXIF data.
[07:18] <maco> U-b-u-n-t-u: your phone must not set it then
[07:19] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ah
[07:19] <cycrosism> nice htop lookes cool velko_
[07:19] <U-b-u-n-t-u> thanks for the help
[07:19] <Rabbitbunny> maco: I don't want it. can I turn it off?
[07:19] <maco> Rabbitbunny: system ->preferences -> appearance -> desktop effects
[07:19] <crohakon> never knew about htop, just installed it. Nice, thanks velko_
[07:20] <icarus-c> Rabbitbunny: compiz is a window manager, it is the thing that is doing all the 3D desktop effects
[07:20] <Rabbitbunny> maco: Thanks.
[07:20] <Rabbitbunny> icarus-c: I need my proc for other things, not making pretties.
[07:20] <icarus-c> Rabbitbunny: turn it off if you like
[07:21] <h4ck3rz> thecrush as in yahoo messanger
[07:21]  * Rabbitbunny gains + 1.3% proc!
[07:21] <icarus-c> Rabbitbunny: have you ever consider going with a tiling WM ?
[07:21] <icarus-c> Rabbitbunny: you know, a DE is heavy
[07:21] <icarus-c> and bloat
[07:21] <crohakon> lol
[07:22] <Rabbitbunny> icarus-c: like xfce or lxde?
[07:22] <icarus-c> Rabbitbunny: i mean like xmonad
[07:22] <Rabbitbunny> oh. no, but i will now.
[07:22] <icarus-c> xfce is still heavy comparing with tiling
[07:23] <icarus-c> Rabbitbunny: if you want to squeeze performance further, consider compiling applications and kernel using optimized cflags for your machine.
[07:24] <crohakon> or just go command line...
[07:24] <crohakon> who needs pretty graphics =)
[07:24] <Rabbitbunny> icarus-c: is there a built-in thing to do that?
[07:24] <krummaluf> nice i got my speakers to work :)
[07:24] <icarus-c> crohakon: yea... especially when you can even watch video in tty
[07:24] <Rabbitbunny> crohakon: I'm modelling an ant colony, it's graphical.
[07:25] <krummaluf> cool
[07:25] <crohakon> oh? can I see?
[07:25] <crohakon> And you can watch video in tty?!
[07:25] <icarus-c> ah!! rabbit bunny
[07:25] <icarus-c> Big Bug Bunny huh?
[07:25] <icarus-c> teach me blender someday :P
[07:25] <krummaluf> i feel very advanced
[07:26] <icarus-c> krummaluf: you have finally plugged your speakers?
[07:26] <crohakon> krummaluf; finally found the 3.5 jack, eh?
[07:26] <Harrison_Bergero> i have a question about networking.  I want to move large files 700mb or greater to my PC in the cellar which is running winXP from this PC which is Ubuntu 9.04.
[07:27] <Harrison_Bergero> what is causing the transfer to "time out"
[07:27] <icarus-c> Harrison_Bergero: bad connection
[07:27] <crohakon> WinXP
[07:27] <Harrison_Bergero> 3/4 of the way through the transfer
[07:27] <crohakon> hehe
[07:27] <h4ck3rz> Harrison_Bergero ftp best off i think
[07:27] <vox> crohakon: thats not helpful
[07:27] <Harrison_Bergero> Icarus-c....i can understand that if it happened all the time
[07:27] <crohakon> vox; was not meant to be
[07:27] <Harrison_Bergero> but it only happens sometimes
[07:28] <icarus-c> h4x0rz shouldn't recommend people to ftp..
[07:28] <noshelter> Harrison_Bergero if ur ursing wireless I got that too often
[07:28] <Harrison_Bergero> h4ck3rz....ftp across the LAN?
[07:28] <crohakon> Harrison_Bergero; what protocol are you using, SMB?
[07:28] <Rabbitbunny> crohakon: http://imagebin.org/69168
[07:28] <Harrison_Bergero> moshelter....its cabled
[07:28] <Harrison_Bergero> crohakon...good question...i dont know
[07:28] <h4ck3rz> yeah ftp across the lan stop netdrops as easy coz u can resume them after netdrop
[07:28] <icarus-c> Rabbitbunny: what the hell... you don't make use of multi workspaces?!
[07:28] <_nits> when my machines load average goes higher than 2.0, then the system will shutdown atm, any clues?
[07:29] <vox> _nits: possibly overheating
[07:29] <Harrison_Bergero> crohakon...just went into the networking tab and found the windows network and clicked my way through
[07:29] <crohakon> Harrison_Bergero; wireless connection?
[07:29] <Harrison_Bergero> no
[07:29] <Rabbitbunny> icarus-c: no, all the stuff fits at the bottom.
[07:30] <crohakon> Harrison_Bergero; tried setting up an ftp server on the computer in the cellar?
[07:30] <noshelter> Harrison_Bergero does only the file transfer stop, or do u loose all network connectivity?
[07:30] <crohakon> Rabbitbunny; Nice, SimAnt? Is that some kind of game?
[07:30] <Harrison_Bergero> moshelter...only file transfer
[07:30] <_nits> vox: how can i improve performance, i mean wat i could do to avoid shut down?
[07:30] <Rabbitbunny> crohakon: it's simulated ants.
[07:30] <icarus-c> Rabbitbunny: http://imagebin.org/69169
[07:31] <crohakon> Rabbitbunny; I once had a game called SimAnts for the SNES... man I miss that game.
[07:31] <Harrison_Bergero> could it be that i cant connect simulaneously.....i have VNC running as well
[07:31] <vox> _nits: install sensors-applet and see if your cpu is overheating
[07:31] <h4ck3rz> could just be a timeout feature in the server sounds weird
[07:31] <Harrison_Bergero> one connected via VNC, second connection by network tab in ubuntu
[07:31] <Rabbitbunny> crohakon: Well, I guess you could watch these... that could be exciting.
[07:32] <crohakon> Rabbitbunny; Where does one get that program?
[07:32] <Rabbitbunny> crohakon: I guess I could zip you a copy and put it on omploader... but you're talking to the developer.
[07:32] <Harrison_Bergero> does this mean i have a faulty CAT5 cable_
[07:33] <noshelter> Harrison_Bergero try to mount the share -- I'm not sure if u can do a windows share as CIFS, but try it out, Nautilus mounts with something but I have no clue with what
[07:33] <icarus-c> noshelter: yes you can
[07:33] <Harrison_Bergero> noshelter.....the share is on the desktop...i suppose its already mounted?
[07:33] <crohakon> Rabbitbunny; oh? I have always had a bit of a love for ants. I spent three summers of my childhood watching a red ant nation grow and die in the woods behind our house. lol
[07:33] <icarus-c> crohakon: hahahahaha
[07:34] <crohakon> icarus-c; don't judge me =)
[07:34]  * icarus-c invites people to play sauerbraten
[07:34] <noshelter> Harrison_Bergero yes it is mounted, but there is a diff between smbfs and cifs, i think the latter is more relaible
[07:34] <icarus-c> smbfs is obsolete afaik
[07:35] <icarus-c> nautilus uses gvfs
[07:35] <grawity> icarus-c: smbfs has been obsoleted by cifs.
[07:35] <noshelter> there u go
[07:36] <Harrison_Bergero> noshelter...let me do a bit of reading on CIFS....bbl
[07:36] <grawity> icarus-c: and GnomeVFS/GVFS/GIO is a quite different thing.
[07:36] <velko_> icarus-c, it's better to say nothing than to say such nonsence
[07:36] <grawity> (GVFS is what GNOME uses now; GnomeVFS was the older thing)
[07:37] <grawity> noshelter: Basically, CIFS is updated SMB. You can mount.cifs a Windows share and it will work fine.
[07:37] <noshelter> grawity yup, i thought so, just haven't used a windows partition in over 5 years, so i kidna forgot
[07:38] <Harrison_Bergero> noshelter....CIFS involves setting up a domain in windows.  Does this work better than workgroup networking?
[07:38] <grawity> Harrison_Bergero: No it doesn't.
[07:38] <grawity> Harrison_Bergero: CIFS can use workgroups just fine
[07:38] <grawity> (AFAIK.
[07:39] <Harrison_Bergero> gravity...here is what im referring to:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12306
[07:39] <icarus-c> Harrison_Bergero: why not man mount.cifs
[07:40] <icarus-c> Harrison_Bergero: you mean  that //server[or domain]/ * ?
[07:40] <grawity> Harrison_Bergero: I have used mount.cifs on my desktop PC, with Windows XP, workgroup.
[07:40] <grawity> Harrison_Bergero: I have used mount.cifs on my damn _phone_.
[07:40] <grawity> Harrison_Bergero: A domain is not required
[07:40] <Harrison_Bergero> gravity...k
[07:41] <chemjeff> Hey, it appears to be working with Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop.  So I guess Ubuntu 8.04 just doesn't support the modern system.
[07:42] <indus> connect irc.quakenet.com
[07:42] <indus> yikes
[07:42] <icarus-c> /
[07:43] <noshelter> can somebody tell me if xlsfonts | less gives them any font that contains monospace in the name?
[07:43] <roger2> hello, i ran "sudo nano /etc/modules"..i am trying to setup my sound card...following a howto from ubuntuhelp, it says >>add "snd-es1938" to /etc/modules so that it would be loaded at boot time.
[07:43] <noshelter> i can't seem to set xft:monospace as the font for my xterms
[07:43] <roger2> i dont know exactly what to do, what line to add it to and how
[07:43] <Harrison_Bergero> i need some help with this command line:
[07:43] <Harrison_Bergero> sudo mount -t cifs //<windows_machine>/<share> /<mount>/<point> -o
[07:43] <Harrison_Bergero> username=*****,password=*****
[07:44] <noshelter> looks fine
[07:44] <Harrison_Bergero> is mount-point designation on ubuntu?
[07:44] <noshelter> whats the problem?
[07:44] <noshelter> yeah
[07:44] <knoppies> yes
[07:44] <noshelter> a folder
[07:44] <Harrison_Bergero> k
[07:44] <FloodBot3> noshelter: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:44] <knoppies> noshelter, seems as though you type too fast.
[07:44] <noshelter> knoppies ha , yeah, my mistake, got used to msn type of typing
[07:45] <knoppies> I was just teasing.
[07:46] <zetheroo2> ubuntu 9.04 is giving me such grief ....
[07:46] <roger2> what does "lp" mean?
[07:46] <roger2> its at the end of GNU nano etc/modules file
[07:46] <knoppies> zetheroo2, pls explain.
[07:46] <roger2> "lp"
[07:46] <zetheroo2> kernel panics several times a day
[07:46] <noshelter> so can anybody run this at terminal: xlsfonts | less , then do a search on monospace and tell me if they get anything?
[07:46] <zetheroo2> knoppies: kernel panics
[07:47] <knoppies> zetheroo2, i know very little about the kernel, sorry.
[07:47] <icarus-c> roger2: "print files" from man page
[07:47] <zetheroo2> knoppies: yeah ... that is the biggest issue around ... and nobody knows much of anything about it
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> noshelter: why not pipe it into grep instead, the search is then done for you
[07:48] <jitender> hello
[07:48] <jitender> dear all
[07:48] <jitender> please tell me, how can i backup my ubuntu sytem
[07:48] <noshelter> actionparsnip or that, but I have already done it, and I can't find anything on my new system , but I had monospace as the font for gnome-terminal, so I am not sure what the problem is here ...
[07:48] <icarus-c> noshelter: pattern not found
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> noshelter: http://pastebin.com/f79d357b7
[07:49] <grawity> noshelter: 'Monospace' is not a font - it's just a ... symlink to whatever you chose in Appearance.
[07:49] <grawity> noshelter: Usually, DejaVu Sans Mono.
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> noshelter: thats the entire output
[07:50] <icarus-c> zetheroo: any special drivers you are using?
[07:50] <noshelter> actionparsnip lol? for real, 6 lines...
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> noshelter: of xlsfonts
[07:50] <jitender> please tell me, how can i backup my ubuntu sytem
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> noshelter: s'all i got, what were you expecting
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> !backup | jitender
[07:50] <grawity> noshelter: http://sprunge.us/jUhL - xlsfonts|pastebin
[07:51] <Harrison_Bergero> ok....that command line seemed to work....now its time to test it
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> noshelter: ahhh, i use ms office 2k3 via wine ;)
[07:52] <noshelter> grawity: that looks more like wgat I have, I just don;t remember what was set in gnome in aperance to get the terminal font
[07:52] <eighty4> Ok, Im really not sure if this is a ubuntu problem or a os x or a afp problem (everything was working last friday). When mounting a folder with afp using netatalk its .svn folders won't show up in os x. Checking the folder in Ubuntu they're there. Ideas on why this would happen?
[07:52] <jitender> any applicayion available for backup
[07:52] <noshelter> grawity: and now im on fluxbox, so I kinda have to find the right one and edit my stuff to work with it
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> jitender: ubottu just gave you 6 links on possible backup solutions
[07:53] <grawity> noshelter: Run gconf-editor, find /desktop/gnome/interface/monospace_font_name
[07:53] <jitender> but i unable to open links
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> jitender: rsync is one possiblility, depends what you are backing up
[07:54] <noshelter> grawity: don't have gnome anymore, using fluxbox, that's why i was hopping someone with gnome could share that with me
[07:54] <jitender> i want to backup my full system
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> jitender: i you are backing up the OS i'd use partimage personally, if its just user data then rsync will be good
[07:54] <grawity> noshelter: Share what exactly?
[07:54] <alabd> Good day everyone , would you introduce 1 or more biggest mailing list or forums for linux ?
[07:54] <noshelter> grawity: what is stored in /desktop/gnome/interface/monospace_font_name
[07:55] <noshelter> grawity: if that is the exact path to it, im lacking gconf-editor, so i have no clue how to check that
[07:55] <jitender> how i can find the rsync
[07:55] <grawity> noshelter: "DejaVu Sans Mono 10"
[07:55] <grawity> noshelter: Maybe you have gconftool-2?
[07:55] <grawity> noshelter: And if not... wait a minute, I'm googling for something.
[07:56] <psychuil> Hi guys.
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> !info rsync
[07:56] <noshelter> grawity: yes i have gconftool-2, let me check it out
[07:56] <psychuil> i'm unable to install flash on my liveusb for some reason.
[07:56] <jitender> yes
[07:56] <grawity> noshelter: Ah, edit ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and add: gtk-font-name = "DejaVu Sans Mono 10"
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> jitender: its part of a standard install
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> jitender: you have it
[07:56] <jitender> no
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> jitender: then run: sudo apt-get install rsync
[07:57] <noshelter> grawity: don't have that file, and xterm doesn't use by default i think (since it;s not a gtk app as far as I know)
[07:57] <grawity> noshelter: You can use .gtkrc-2.0 to set GTK themes too - gtk-icon-theme-name = "Mist" // gtk-theme-name = "Clearlooks" // gtk-toolbar-style = GTK_TOOLBAR_BOTH_HORIZ //
[07:57] <Harrison_Bergero> ok...novice question regarding file transfers....if there is no error message, can i assume the entire file was copied verbatim?
[07:57] <grawity> noshelter: Yeah, xterm isn't GTK...
[07:58] <Harrison_Bergero> across the LAN
[07:58] <grawity> noshelter: And Xterm won't support DejaVu either, I think.
[07:58] <grawity> noshelter: At least not the pretty antialisified version.
[07:58] <icarus-c> Harrison_Bergero: md5sum ,etc
[07:58] <noshelter> grawity: yeah, that's the thing, tho I am not sure how fluxbox can make use of xft-fonts, and xterm can't
[07:59] <jitender> is this Gadmin Rsync
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> jitender: not sure, its just rsync afaik
[07:59] <noshelter> grawity: and i tried eterm and aterm as alt to xterm, but i couldn't get those to work with anything other than what xfontsel gives
[07:59] <grawity> noshelter: Because fluxbox is written with xft support in mind, and Xterm is a pure X app, written way before Xft.
[07:59] <Harrison_Bergero> icarus-c...where do i find the md5sumẞ
[07:59] <grawity> noshelter: How about just using gnome-terminal? I use that on wmii.
[08:00] <icarus-c> Harrison_Bergero: maybe you stick with the classics : compare the size and total number of files
[08:00] <jitender> this application i have already installed, but unable to backup
[08:00] <noshelter> grawity: neah, im gona be stuborn on this one, and figure it out :P
[08:00] <Harrison_Bergero> icarus-c....yeah, size and file number are same
[08:00] <jitender> how this app work
[08:00] <grawity> noshelter: In short, Xterm has no Xft.
[08:00] <velko_> Harrison_Bergero, you have to build them for yourself. for bot files. linux side:  md5sum myfile.avi
[08:01] <velko_> Harrison_Bergero, both*
[08:01] <noshelter> grawity: but what about eterm/aterm?
[08:01] <jitender> hello action , r u there
[08:01] <grawity> noshelter: Those ones - I have no idea...
[08:01] <jitender> guide me pls
[08:03] <noshelter> grawity: and lol, xterm -fa monospace makes use of the xft monospace family of fonts
[08:03] <velko_> Harrison_Bergero, there are free tools for doing the same on windows. if you cannot install them on your win-machine, simply get the file back to the linux machine and build the checksum for it ;)
[08:03] <grawity> noshelter: O_o
[08:03] <noshelter> grawity: http://www.xfree86.org/current/fonts2.html
[08:03]  * grawity notes
[08:05] <zetheroo> icarus-c: special drivers?
[08:05] <Harrison_Bergero> i noticed that without torrent running, the "connection time out" does not occur.  Perhaps my router was overloaded.
[08:05] <Harrison_Bergero> damn...and as soon as i typed that, what do you know....a time out!
[08:05] <noshelter> grawity: now i just need to find out how to set it to work by default for aterm/eterm ... which is surprisngly hard.. tho it's that easy for xterm lol
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> jitender: try tab completing names
[08:05] <dansushi> i'm thinking of changing to kubuntu from debian, and i was wondering, is troubleshooting on kubuntu and more difficult that on ubuntu?
[08:06] <dansushi> also, is 64-bit (k)ubuntu supported very well?
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> jitender: see how my text highlights for you, thats not an accident
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> jitender: try typing actio then pressing tab, it will complete my nick
[08:06] <velko_> dansushi, it's the same. kubuntu is ubuntu with kde
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> dansushi: 64bit is supported very well
[08:07] <dansushi> i've noticed that when people use gnome, many programs are integrated into it that are control main settings of ubuntu
[08:07] <dansushi> are they easy to get to in kde in kubuntu?
[08:08] <velko_> dansushi, the last time i checked kubuntu was one of the worst kde distros available
[08:08] <dansushi> *that control
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> dansushi: kde has kontrolcentre
[08:08] <dansushi> velko_: really, why do you say that?
[08:08] <icarus-c> velko_: +1
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> dansushi: fyi, you can install gnome desktop on kubuntu, its not a seperate OS in any way
[08:08] <velko_> dansushi, because this is my experience
[08:09] <dansushi> oh, i know
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> dansushi: good
[08:09] <babbio>  i  downloaded a film and a have some files like "name.z01, name.z02......,name.zip" how to uncompress them???
[08:09] <velko_> icarus-c, nope - #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[08:09] <dansushi> ActionParsnip: is it a good idea to install ubuntu, and then kde on that?
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> dansushi: makes no difference
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> babbio: its also probably illegal
[08:09] <dansushi> velko_: well, i mean, what did you not like about it?
[08:10] <velko_> dansushi, the bugs
[08:10] <babbio> it is not because the film is a dvd backup
[08:10] <babbio> of my friend film
[08:10] <dansushi> ActionParsnip: would you recommend kubuntu for someone that is not a big fan of gnome?
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> babbio: you tell the fcc that, anyway its offtopic here
[08:11] <grawity> babbio: You'll have to do this: cat name.zip name.z[0-9][0-9] >> name.new.zip; unzip name.new.zip
[08:11] <Harrison_Bergero> note to self....turn off virus scanner before making large file transfers!
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> dansushi: sure, or fluxbox or lxde can be added if you are a middle level user
[08:11] <velko_> dansushi, do as you please. if you don't like it - throw it away and move on. not a big deal. there are a lot of options for a gui in linux
[08:11] <babbio> thank you grawity....probably also you are offtopic ;)
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> dansushi: they dont have the same configs as some guides will mention but are good dEs
[08:12] <iceroot> how to replace foo with bar in vi to the complete document?
[08:13] <grawity> iceroot: :%s/foo/bar/g
[08:13] <grawity> iceroot: And use vim.
[08:13] <fahadsadah> grawity: vi is symlinked to vim.
[08:13] <dansushi> ActionParsnip: dEs?
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> dansushi: desktop environment
[08:14] <grawity> fahadsadah: Still, when it sees "vi" as argv[0], it turns on compat mode.
[08:14] <fahadsadah> fahad@infinity:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/vi
[08:14] <fahadsadah> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2009-08-20 13:03 /usr/bin/vi -> /etc/alternatives/vi
[08:14] <fahadsadah> fahad@infinity:~$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/vi
[08:14] <fahadsadah> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2009-08-20 13:03 /etc/alternatives/vi -> /usr/bin/vim.tiny
[08:14] <FloodBot3> fahadsadah: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:14] <fahadsadah> Oh.
[08:14] <iceroot> grawity: thx
[08:14] <dansushi> ActionParsnip: ah, ok
[08:16] <dansushi> ActionParsnip: also, do you think i should wait for Karmic Koala to come out before i download an iso to install from?
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> dansushi: your call, theres an rc-like karmi iso out afaik
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> dansushi: but its out in like 3 days tops
[08:17] <Psibottu> i installed tor on ubuntu 9.04 and it's not working. I have Vidalia, but when i try to start tor either with Vidalia or via command prompt (psinetic@psinetic-desktop$ tor). it keeps giving me some error saying it can't bind it and that it might already be in use....but it's not working so how is it in use?
[08:18] <fahadsadah> Psibottu: Please !pastebin the output of ps aux?
[08:18] <dansushi> ok, thanks for the info
[08:18] <fahadsadah> !pastebin
[08:18] <Psibottu> ps aux?
[08:18] <fahadsadah> Yes.
[08:18]  * grawity thinks Ubuntu should come with sprunge built in
[08:19] <Psibottu> is that a command?
[08:19] <fahadsadah> Yes.
[08:19] <fahadsadah> grawity: pastebinit
[08:19] <grawity> fahadsadah: Not installed by default either, AFAIK
[08:19] <fahadsadah> gzip | xxd | mail
[08:19] <fahadsadah> That's installed by default
[08:20] <fahadsadah> (yes, I recognise the pointlessness of gzip|xxd)
[08:20] <grawity> fahadsadah: mail requires a MTA.
[08:20] <Psibottu> fahadsadah, http://pastebin.com/m3d310306
[08:22] <fahadsadah> Psibottu: kill -2 3041
[08:23] <gogeta> fahadsadah: killall appname is a easer rough
[08:23] <kj4> hello all
[08:23] <Psibottu> fahadsadah, thank you very much. dunno what i woulda done, still don't know unix command line XD. but as an added touch, putting "sudo" before that would help ;)
[08:24] <gogeta> Psibottu: killall appname saves looking fro the prosses id
[08:24] <malombo> Hi there!!!!!!!!
[08:24] <Psibottu> gogeta, what's that do?
[08:24] <gogeta> Psibottu: same as kill
[08:25] <malombo> testing X-chat
[08:25] <gogeta> Psibottu: but like killall firefox
[08:25] <gogeta> Psibottu: woud kill firefox
[08:26] <alabd> is there any way to find domain from ip in command line
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> alabd: domain's dont have IPs
[08:26] <tapas> hi. i'm looking for a config file that could bring a hci interface up automatically when it's connected to the machine
[08:26] <gogeta> alabd: tractrt maybe
[08:26] <tapas> i see that it works out of the box on the new ubuntu release
[08:26] <gogeta> tracert
[08:26] <Psibottu> hmmmm ok. Thanks a ton fahadsadah and gogeta
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> alabd: domain controllers do, and the network address that the domain resides on has an addrss
[08:27] <tapas> but here at uni we also have some older machines where this doesn't happen automagically
[08:27] <tapas> so i wonder what's the difference
[08:27] <asfjio> hello, in my xorg i have such a row Identifier "nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]". what should be my Driver "" row look like? should i use driver nvidia or nv?
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> alabd: the domain is a software construct
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: in linux its traceroute
[08:28] <grawity> alabd: 'host <IP_ADDRESS>', but it isn't very reliable.
[08:28] <gogeta> lol
[08:28] <alabd> thanks
[08:28] <grawity> ActionParsnip: There are DNS domains, NIS domains, and Active Directory domains.
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> asfjio: if you have the proprietary driver installed and want to use it, set it to nvidia
[08:28] <grawity> ActionParsnip: I have a feeling alabd is asking about DNS. (If he isn't, who cares)
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> asfjio: if you want to use the open driver (installed by default, unlike the proprietary) then set it to nv
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> grawity: i'm assuming nothing
[08:29] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: but if its not broken they just gotta fix it lol
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: they just gotta be more specific ;)
[08:30] <kingtiger01-IRCI> hey everyone, just testing out IRC-II cli\
[08:30] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: a nivida that old oss drivers probly have 3d acell
[08:30] <grawity> kingtiger01-IRCI: You mean ircII?
[08:30] <alabd> grawity: does it give dns domain only ?
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: depends if you need 3d accel or not
[08:30] <awayguy> mhm pidgin messenger works really fine, also for irc
[08:30] <grawity> awayguy: Just make sure you get the latest Pidgin, 2.6.2
[08:31] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: as in the bot broken fix and normaly end broken
[08:31] <gogeta> nog
[08:31] <gogeta> lol
[08:31] <eighty4> Ideas on why my .svn folder wont show up when mounting folders with afp using netatalk? Could afp/netatalk be hiding them? (It was all working nice last week but I have no idea what I've done to break it)
[08:31] <kingtiger01-IRCI> yes, but pidgin has had issues in the past sending debug messages to the channel.
[08:31] <knoppies> awayguy, pidgin is not the best for irc, I use xchat instead, but pidgin does mxit, fb, AIM, google, yahoo, msn etc.
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> awayguy: i use it and have for a long while now (even back when it was gaim), works fine
[08:32] <gogeta> knoppies: pidgin ownz irc
[08:32] <awayguy> on windows i use mIRC
[08:32] <asfjio> ActionParsnip: i heared that using nv i could experience low graphic rendering. the problem is that probably i was using nvidia driver before, but today i've got an error "failed to load NVIDIA kernel module" and i've tried to change it to nv.
[08:32] <ahsanul> hi, can somebody please tell me how i can force a higher resolution than the max in my system > preferences > display?
[08:32] <awayguy> well time to change to xchat XD
[08:32] <gogeta> knoppies: empithy fails hard with irc
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> asfjio: sounds like you need to reinstall the driver then as you sound like you got a new kernel
[08:32] <knoppies> gogeta, I dont use empithy, never heared of it. I use xchat.
[08:33] <grawity> empathy*
[08:33] <grawity> Pidgin and Empathy are IM clients. They weren't designed for IRC.
[08:33] <gogeta> knoppies: 9.10 replaced pidgin with it due to having voice chat modes
[08:33] <ahsanul> anybody?
[08:33] <al_> what do you need to do to make the command line (is it called shell?) available from other PC's? like via telnet?
[08:33] <cesare> buon giorno
[08:33] <almoxarife> I use pidgin on irc, works just fine here
[08:33] <gogeta> knoppies: it whont even pass irc commands or tab names
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> ahsanul: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[08:33] <knoppies> gogeta, I still use pidgin. I agree with grawity.
[08:34] <asfjio> ActionParsnip: new kernel? linux kernel or graphic if there is such thing?
[08:34] <kingtiger01-IRCI> has anyone had any sucess getting martian driver for winmodems to work with hylafax?
[08:34] <knoppies> gogeta, that sounds pretty pathetic for IRC support.
[08:34] <gogeta> it is
[08:34] <ahsanul> ActionParsnip: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[08:34] <kingtiger01-IRCI> brv
[08:34] <gogeta> knoppies: removed it for pidgin pretty quick
[08:35] <kingtiger01-IRCI> brb*
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> asfjio: there is a kernel module for nvidia, it needs creating using dkms each time you get a new kernel. If you use the packages this is done for you, if you use the .run file i'm not sure it completes it. You may want to reinstall it so the new module gets made
[08:35] <sebulba> Hi all, I have an external monitor on my laptop with 1600x1200 resolution. It worked just fine before, but now with U 9.10 I can't get resolutions higher 1280x1024. I had this before but I don't remember what was the cause anymore. Ideas?
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> ahsanul: ok and what is the output of: lsb_release -c
[08:35] <ahsanul> ActionParsnip: Codename:	jaunty
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> ahsanul: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4
[08:36] <coz_> asfjio,  definitly if you manually installed nvidia driver you need to reinstall it after kernel updates  no alternative :)
[08:36] <ahsanul> ActionParsnip, thanks
[08:36] <kingtiger01> anyways
[08:36] <al_> whats the diff between SSH and shell? are they the same thing?
[08:36] <knoppies> Im trying to connect to my ubuntu desktop using tightvnc, Ubuntu 9.04 with tightvnc server, and xp with the client. I can connect from ubuntu to xp, but not the other way round, anybody got any ideas?
[08:36] <kingtiger01> has anyone got MARTIAN to work with hylafax?
[08:36] <__kayess> What's the difference between the linux-virtual kernel and the -server and -generic ones?
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> al_: ssh will give you a shell, but the ssh service is so much more
[08:37] <dayo> i've got an hp switch with a serial port. but i got no serial port on any of my systems. i do have a serial-to-ethernet cable. does anyone know how i can access my hp switch with this, to assign it an IP? is there a package i can install for this?
[08:37] <gogeta> knoppies: everything else in 9.10 is awsom they just decided to use a inferer im client in place of pidgin by defult at least i think so
[08:37] <grawity> al_: A "shell" is a program that reads your typed commands and executes them.
[08:37] <grawity> al_: Such as 'bash'  (the default).
[08:38] <al_> hey ActionParsnip. ok
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> al_: ssh can provide secure connection to services that dont have them, and allow remote x apps, file transfer using scp
[08:38] <pinoyskull> it's slow playing flash based games on firefox/jaunty
[08:38] <grawity> al_: SSH is both a program and a protocol for secure connection over the internet.
[08:38] <pinoyskull> any ideas?
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> al_: on face value, its a terminal
[08:38] <al_> ok
[08:38] <al_> open ssh best one for me to get?
[08:38] <knoppies> pinoyskull, do you use the gnash flash plugin for ff?
[08:39] <knoppies> pinoyskull, its pretty bad, hogs your CPU even when idling. I recommend you uninstall it, and replace it with the adobe one (or an alternative)
[08:39] <gogeta> knoppies: all oss flash plugins ae well not as good as the real ting
[08:39] <pinoyskull> knoppies,  im using adobe
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> al_: its an option. I use it
[08:39] <knoppies> pinoyskull, then I have no idea, sorry
[08:39] <pinoyskull> knoppies,  thanks
[08:39] <kingtiger01> gnash.... its ok if youre not planning on using it for anything heavy. use Adobe's Proprietary Flash-plugin
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> pinoyskull: have you installed video drivers?
[08:40] <gogeta> or f your not x86
[08:40] <gogeta> thats abought all you can get
[08:40] <knoppies> kingtiger01, gnash had my PC idling at 40-70%
[08:40] <grawity> gogeta: What, you mean no Flash for x64?
[08:40] <pinoyskull> ActionParsnip,  no
[08:40] <gogeta> grawity: x86 intel amd
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> pinoyskull: thats why then, get those installed and it will smooth out your flash a lot
[08:41] <asfjio> ActionParsnip , coz_ : if we assume that this is right "nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]" what should i do to reinstall the driver?
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> asfjio: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180
[08:41] <gogeta> grawity: your still a x86 your just a x86-64bit im talking like powerpc or arm
[08:42] <al_> ActionParsnip: so I dont telnet in, I SSH in? hmm, ok
[08:42] <zetheroo> ok, that's why I keep missing it when people talk to me .. my sound notification was off ...
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> al_: telnet is unsecured so all text and inputs are sent in clear text
[08:42] <asfjio> ActionParsnip, coz_ : thank you for the help. hope i will handle it :)
[08:43] <zetheroo> sorry guys ... did I miss anything again?
[08:43] <knoppies> zetheroo, read up and find out.
[08:43] <al_> ActionParsnip: yep
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> asfjio: try: gksudo jockey-gtk   first
[08:44] <al_> ok, so I know what SSH is, what shell is, whats bash then??
[08:44] <gogeta> !bash
[08:44] <asfjio> ActionParsnip: i'm afraind i run the first command :)
[08:45] <gogeta> lol
[08:45] <knoppies> al_ do you know what a batch file is in windows?
[08:45] <JDahl> where can mounted folders on the Desktop (e.g., network drives) be accessed from the filesystem (e.g., from a terminal) instead of nautilus?
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> asfjio: thats fine, you'll find jockey just installs the 180 driver for you
[08:45] <iceroot> knoppies: the same as a shell-script in linux
[08:45] <MonkeySilent> how to check kernel errors? printk(KERN_ERROR etc
[08:45] <knoppies> al_ I may be wrong, but from what I understand a bash script is the Linux equivalent of the batch file.
[08:45] <asfjio> ActionParsnip: You must run a dkms build for kernel 2.6.27-15-generic (i686) first. may be i need to run what you told me first?
[08:45] <knoppies> iceroot, correct me if Im wrong.
[08:46] <gogeta> knoppies: thats a sh script
[08:46] <al_> knoppies: yes
[08:46] <knoppies> gogeta, so then whats a bash file?
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> asfjio: its part of the postinst. If you dont see it you may need to add an extra bit to the command
[08:46] <iceroot> knoppies: a file with commands
[08:47] <gogeta> knoppies: sh stands for shell script you can call it a bash file if you like i guess
[08:47] <knoppies> thanks for the clarification. al_ you get that?
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> asfjio: if dkms doesnt complete run: sudo apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-180-modaliases nvidia-glx-180
[08:48] <JDahl> In other words, can GVFS be accessed from a terminal?
[08:48] <gogeta> anything can
[08:48] <grawity> JDahl: ~/.gvfs/
[08:49] <sebulba> Hi all, I have an external monitor on my laptop with 1600x1200 resolution. It worked just fine before, but now with U 9.10 I can't get resolutions higher 1280x1024. I had this before but I don't remember what was the cause anymore. Ideas?
[08:49] <gogeta> some more advanced user prefer the term vs anything gui
[08:49] <sebulba> The higher resolutions are simply not visible in the drop down menu
[08:49] <JDahl> grawity, thanks!  I have been scrutinizing the entire filesystem for mount points,  but it didn't occur to me to look in ~/
[08:49] <knoppies> sebulba, sounds like a driver issue
[08:49] <gogeta> and the system is just as powerfull
[08:49] <knoppies> sebulba, try get some good drivers for your card.
[08:50] <sebulba> knoppies: Well I remember having this before, and I remember it was a configuration issue back then
[08:50] <sebulba> I have the notorious intel laptop graphics adapter...
[08:50] <grawity> JDahl: Next time, cat /proc/mounts
[08:50] <gogeta> my gma 945 runs great abit 9.10 ut worked well in 9.04 to
[08:50] <JDahl> grawity, good idea!
[08:51] <sebulba> knoppies: any idea where to look for the drivers?
[08:51] <gogeta> sebulba: you aruldy have intel drivers they suck in 9.04
[08:51] <knoppies> I would have a look in the ubuntu forums, because I have no idea where.
[08:51] <sebulba> gogeta: ?
[08:52] <knoppies> sebulba, but you can look in system -> admin -> hardware drivers
[08:52] <knoppies> sebulba, see if they come up there.
[08:52] <gogeta> 9.04 has crappy intel driver slow as hell
[08:52] <sebulba> knoppies: alright, thanks
[08:52] <gogeta> if thats yor issue
[08:53] <gogeta> fixed in 9.10 out soon
[08:53] <osubuck> me needs 9.10 now :(
[08:53] <sebulba> gogeta: well I don't mind the speed, the problem is that my external display could use resolution 1600x1200 back in 9.04, but now in 9.10 1280x1024 is the highest available option
[08:53] <gogeta> can get beta if you like
[08:54] <osubuck> bahhh i want final :P
[08:54] <gogeta> i thnk this week
[08:54] <gogeta> for final
[08:54] <knoppies> if I have a fx5500gt where should I be looking for the best drivers?
[08:54] <osubuck> 29th
[08:54] <gogeta> yep
[08:55] <geirha> Support for 9.10 is still in #ubuntu+1 though, until the final is out
[08:55] <knoppies> in grub, can I set it to default to a windows install?
[08:55] <knoppies> or set it to wait indefinitly for user selection
[08:55] <grawity> knoppies: Just edit menu.lst as you wish.
[08:56] <knoppies> thanks grawity.
[08:57] <grawity> knoppies: /boot/grub/menu.lst, that is.
[08:57] <knoppies> Im sure I would have found it, but thanks.
[08:57] <sebulba> how do I check which graphics adapter I have in my laptop?
[08:58] <andysfile> :)
[08:58] <shao> Hi all
[08:58] <andysfile> hi
[08:58] <andysfile> i have a question
[08:58] <shao> just upgraded yay!
[08:58] <andysfile> :D
[08:58] <knoppies> sebulba, I can do it in windows, but not in linux
[08:58] <indus> andysfile: hi shao hi
[08:59] <knoppies> andysfile, we cannot answer your question till you ask it.
[08:59] <andysfile> lol
[08:59] <shao> has any body had any touble instaling flash
[08:59] <jitender> hi dear all
[08:59] <andysfile> If I make an Ubuntu start up disk, can I still use the USB for normal file storage
[08:59] <geirha> sebulba: sudo lshw -class display   # in a terminal
[08:59] <shao> cant seem to install
[08:59] <Billiard> andysfile: yes
[08:59] <andysfile> :O
[09:00] <jitender> please tell me about Rsync
[09:00] <andysfile> so I can have a portable ubuntu and a normal usb :D
[09:00] <andysfile> thanks
[09:00] <knoppies> shao, which flash plugin are you trying to install?
[09:00] <indus> andysfile: in my experience, i have run into problems
[09:00] <jitender> how i can backup
[09:00] <indus> !backup
[09:00] <andysfile> what kind of problems
[09:00] <shao> knoppies, well flash 10 player in general...
[09:01] <indus> shao: do you have a 64 bit system
[09:01] <shao> yes i do.
[09:01] <indus> shao: excellent
[09:01] <indus> shao: i mean a 64 bit IS
[09:01] <knoppies> shao, quick google gives http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-install-flash-player-10.html see if that helps
[09:01] <indus> OS
[09:01] <knoppies> shao, nvm.
[09:01] <shao> me too
[09:01] <jitender> please tell me through Rsync app
[09:01] <jitender> backup and restore
[09:01] <jitender> and about schedule backup
[09:02] <indus> !RSYNC > jitender
[09:02] <kraut> moin
[09:03] <knoppies> I like this bot minipulation. now I want to start my own IRC server just to play with them.
[09:04] <knoppies> shao, see if this helps http://johnbokma.com/mexit/2008/11/25/64-bit-adobe-flash-ubuntu.html
[09:04]  * andysfile test
[09:05] <ahsanulhaque> hi, i need some help forcing a higher resolution on my jaunty setup, any ideas?
[09:05] <ahsanulhaque> the max is 1280x800
[09:05] <ahsanulhaque> any way to force a higher resolution?
[09:05] <andysfile> how do I get Xfire to work with latest pidgeon
[09:05] <indus> shao: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-<IP_ADDRESS>.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
[09:06] <jitender> ubottu,
[09:06] <billsantosa> Hi, Im having problems with my client server app, i'm using beejs guide but trying to convert it from using forks to pthreads here is my attempt  http://pastebin.com/d1df85acd, here is the forked - http://pastebin.com/d746f33b0 I think im miles off with the change it seems to send the info fine but segfaults at the end
[09:06] <ahsanulhaque> anybody?
[09:06] <jitender> hi ahsanulhaque
[09:07] <shao> well ill be damed
[09:07] <ahsanulhaque> jitender, hullo
[09:07] <shao> iy works
[09:07] <andysfile> kek
[09:07] <shao> it*
[09:07] <jitender> tell me about Rsync backup app
[09:07] <jitender> how this work
[09:07] <engineer> hey do any one has nokia 2630 i am suffering a small problem in it
[09:07] <engineer> ?
[09:07] <shao> indoo, thanks, but now i find my sound to be gone
[09:07] <grawity> jitender: magic
[09:07] <Billiard> lol
[09:07] <jitender> and schedule backup
[09:07] <andysfile> does anyone have an Xfire plugin for 2.5.2 Pidgin?
[09:08] <shao> indus, thanks, but now i find my sound to be gone
[09:08] <knoppies> andysfile, shouldnt a quick google search find one?
[09:08] <andysfile> couldn't do
[09:08] <jitender> hello
[09:08] <jitender> any body will help me
[09:08] <Billiard> jitender: you havent asked a question specific enough
[09:09] <jitender> ok
[09:09] <indus> shao: hmm probably just went out of the house
[09:09] <knoppies> billiard, he asked you to tell him how to use rsync, and how it works
[09:09] <jitender> how Rsync application backup system
[09:09] <shao> lolz
[09:10] <Billiard> lmgtfy
[09:10] <shao> indus, no but really this kinda bad haha.
[09:10] <indus> heh
[09:10] <Billiard> jitender: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync
[09:10] <indus> Billiard: i gave him that link already
[09:11] <indus> jitender: go through the community docs and try
[09:11] <jitender> dear Billiard, i am unable to open this link
[09:11] <Billiard> jitender: and why is that?
[09:11] <indus> shao: log out and log in again
[09:11] <jitender> don't know
[09:11] <indus> link works fine
[09:12] <Elirips> Hi there. Has anyone else problem with the current upgrade?I did an aptitude update; aptitude safe-upgrade and it fails to download tzdata_2009n-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_all.deb with a 404 not found.
[09:12] <Elirips> is this because i'm using a mirror, and the mirror might not be up to date?
[09:12] <infid> in nautilus when i drag a color to a folder from the  'backgrounds and emblems' dialog, the color doesn't apply and  it just bounces back to the dialog. any idea why?
[09:12] <indus> Elirips: possible
[09:13] <indus> Elirips: many mirrors i find are just pathetic
[09:13] <indus> Elirips: use some university mirrors, main canonical mirrors
[09:13] <Elirips> indus: i'm using ch.archive.ubuntu.com till now i didnt have any problems
[09:13] <Elirips> indus: i'll check again in a few hours
[09:14] <indus> Elirips: ya mirrors take upto 2 days to sync sometimes
[09:14] <shao> indus, sad to say no sound
[09:14] <indus> shao: open volume properties and try
[09:14] <shao> also metacity dose not load
[09:15] <indus> shao: no sound in firefox or no sound in nothing
[09:15] <shao> in nada
[09:15] <shao> "nothing"
[09:15] <indus> shao: dont expect spoon feeding here :) , open volume properties and see
[09:16] <indus> anything muted , low slider levels etc
[09:16] <asfjio> hello, i spoke with womeone from the channel, but he is not here now. can someone help me, because my problem still exists. the problem is that i can't use nvidia driver in my xorg.conf, because if i write nvidia my resolution is getting very bad. i was adviced to do "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180", but i've got an error "You must run a dkms build for kernel 2.6.27-15-generic (i686) first.". what can i do?
[09:16] <shao> thats what im doing
[09:16] <asfjio> i also do "sudo apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-180-modaliases nvidia-glx-180", but still no effect.
[09:17] <indus> asfjio: hmm
[09:17] <indus> asfjio: what iss the exact problem
[09:17] <sun`> why input/output error is coming.. it didnt use to come earlier.. i have installed from the same cd.
[09:17] <andysfile> i love linux
[09:18] <indus> asfjio: i think you are missing the restricted kernel headers
[09:18] <asfjio> indus: using nv as video driver in xorg.conf is okay, but my video render a bit slow. using nvidia it says "failed to load the nvidia kernel module" when starting.
[09:18] <indus> asfjio: what card is this model
[09:18] <asfjio> indus: wait
[09:18] <sun`> why input/output error is coming.. it didnt use to come earlier.. i have installed from the same cd.
[09:19] <indus> sun` cd scratched maybe, or check cables inside system
[09:19] <knoppies> sun`, try re-seating your drive plugs.
[09:19] <asfjio> indus: i have this in my xorg and i think it should be right Identifier "nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]".
[09:19] <indus> asfjio: can i see output of uname -a
[09:19] <Obituary> hi
[09:20] <asfjio> indus: sure "Linux krb2 2.6.27-15-generic #1 SMP Tue Oct 20 06:52:09 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux"
[09:20] <andysfile> i can't find if gfire 0.8.3 works with pidgin 2.5.2
[09:20] <indus> asfjio: hmm krb2 what kernel is this
[09:20] <asfjio> indus: this is the name of my computer :)
[09:20] <indus> asfjio: hehe ya ok gotcha
[09:20] <sun`> knoppies will it work?
[09:21] <asfjio> indus: hah and i answer doh.
[09:21] <indus> asfjio: ok can you open synaptic and search for.... mmmm wait
[09:21] <shao> indus, cant find the issue regarding sound
[09:21] <indus> shao: which version of ubuntu
[09:22] <indus> asfjio: linux-restricted-modules 26 27 -15 is installed?
[09:22] <shao> indus, 9.10
[09:23] <indus> shao: hmm #ubuntu+1 sweetheart
[09:23] <indus> :)
[09:24] <indus> !karmic | shao
[09:25] <asfjio> indus: linux-restricted-modules-common v2.6.27-14.20 installed as i can see
[09:26] <asfjio> indus: do i try to upgrade?
[09:26] <asfjio> indus: there is available 2.6.27-15.21.
[09:26] <indus> asfjio: you need the version corresponding to your kernel version
[09:26] <indus> asfjio: yeah that one i guess
[09:27] <Bruc> how do install ubuntu on windows os 7
[09:27] <asfjio> indus: is it possible when i do this update my pc not start normally? i'm afraid of those kernel updates.
[09:27] <Bruc> everytime i do it ...it stuffs up
[09:27] <Billiard> Bruc stuffs up?
[09:28] <indus> asfjio: well, you always have the older kernel versions to boot into
[09:28] <indus> asfjio: ok i have a question, did u install nvidia drivers before ? from the site?
[09:28] <Bruc> it borked my drive
[09:28] <asfjio> indus: question: is that updating my kernel or it is just some helper script as it says?
[09:28] <Billiard> Bruc: borked?
[09:29] <indus> asfjio: it installs restricted modules which handle nvidia or similar drivers
[09:29] <Bruc> yeah it only allocates only 200 meg of files
[09:29] <Bruc> of space i mean
[09:29] <Bruc> ive got one terabytes ..
[09:29] <Billiard> Bruc, try the manual partitioning option?
[09:30] <asfjio> indus: so this is only assosiated with graphic update? and if something goes wrong i can boot, but just with no GUI?
[09:30] <Bruc> hmm iam to worried it might happend again.
[09:30] <indus> asfjio: just install it
[09:30] <indus> bruc during automatic partition, move the slider to specify how much space you want
[09:31] <Bruc> slider what slider???
[09:32] <Bruc> ok iam going to do it..only if u advise me Indus
[09:32] <asfjio> indus: understood. upgrading... :) its annoying when i start asking questions. sorry about it.
[09:32] <Bruc> iam going on live cd.
[09:32] <indus> asfjio: i like people who annoy me
[09:32] <indus> bruc ill help, and so will others
[09:32] <asfjio> indus: okay it is not installed. should i try now "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180" ?
[09:32] <indus> asfjio: yeah
[09:33] <indus> asfjio: no first reboot
[09:33] <bigmack83_> i have a bunch of .avi files i want to convert to mpeg so i can burn them to a dvd and watch them on a dvd player. what would the workflow be in ubuntu to do so? I have tried using devede but it seems to only be able to put four ~175Mb files onto one dvd.is there a better option?
[09:33] <Bruc> ok cool let me boot of the live cd...
[09:34] <asfjio> indus: rebooting..
[09:34] <Billiard> bigmack83_:  devede should allow more than 4 video files
[09:35] <bigmack83_> Billiard, yea thats what i thought. the only thing i can think of is that its trying to put all the extra files on to the dvd/iso as well.
[09:36] <bigmack83_> would it be easier or better to use ffmpeg to convert them all to mpeg first then just use dvdauthor or similar to burn them to dvd with menu to select the episode?
[09:36] <offsense> hello, is there any way to install gwibber on hardy heron?????
[09:37] <indus> !info >  gwibber
 wants you to know: Retrieve information on a package: !info <package>
[09:37] <indus> !info gwibber
[09:37] <indus> offsense: just install from synaptic
[09:38] <offsense> aight, thnx anywy
[09:38] <Billiard> bigmack83_: i have used ffmpeg to convert, and devede to make the dvd (choosing the valid dvd format) option or something similar, so devede didnt do any converting
[09:39] <bigmack83_> Billiard, ok, ill check that out. thanks
[09:40] <felipeweb> Bom dia!
[09:41] <Arabus> Hey, anyone know where to set the option where new windows on the gnome desktop are opened / positioned?
[09:41] <cybic> hey everybody... looking for a hint (like everytime)  :) i altered my hal policy for x with the lines for maxSpeed and minSpeed like  <merge key="input.x11_options.MaxSpeed" type="string">4.0</merge> :) works perfect after restart/reboot but do nothing after resume... what could be the prob?
[09:41] <asfjio> indus: u here?
[09:41] <indus> asfjio: yes
[09:42] <indus> asfjio: i thought your PC exploded
[09:43] <asfjio> indus: i did "sudo apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-glx-180" and then "/etc/init.d/gdm restart" it says you need to update your configuration. new line. no device detected. running on low-graphic mode.
[09:44] <indus> asfjio: always restart after installing display drivers
[09:44] <asfjio> indus: may be i'm cursed :(
[09:44] <indus> asfjio: i think you are installing wrong drivers
[09:44] <indus> asfjio: wait 1 min
[09:44] <indus> asfjio: gx 5200?
[09:45] <asfjio> indus: GeForce FX 5200.
[09:45] <jitender> dear indus , tell me about cron
[09:46] <bigmack83_> Billiard, ok each avi i have is 170mb and selecting one in devede takes nearly 25% of the disk space on a dvd. so how am i supposed to fit more than 4 avi's onto the iso to burn it
[09:46] <indus> asfjio: did you install nvidia glx 180?
[09:46] <jitender> any body know cron
[09:46] <bigmack83_> maybe its an option im not seeing then that needs to be changed?
[09:46] <asfjio> indus: yes, then restart gdm, but no reboot the pc itself.
[09:46] <indus> asfjio: you need to install nvidia-glx-legacy
[09:47] <indus> asfjio: your card is not supported by the 180 drivers
[09:47] <indus> asfjio: install the older ones
[09:47] <Billiard> bigmack83_: the bitrate settings maybe
[09:47] <indus> asfjio: sorry wait
[09:47] <indus> asfjio: install nvidia-glx-173 somethinh
[09:48] <indus> asfjio: then reboot
[09:48] <asfjio> indus: now i need to remove nvidia-glx-180? apt-get remove nvidia-glx-180 is that?
[09:48] <Arabus> Hey, anyone know where to set the option where new windows on the gnome desktop are opened / positioned?
[09:48] <indus> asfjio: it will be automatically removed
[09:48] <indus> asfjio: no wonder the card was not found
[09:48] <indus> asfjio: the 173 driver is what u need
[09:48] <bigmack83_> Billiard, well even then it shouldnt go from 170 mb to nearly over 1gb for one avi file.
[09:49] <jitender> cron cron cron
[09:49] <asfjio> indus: done, now going to reboot. hope it wont explode :)
[09:49] <bigmack83_> Billiard, heh, well it seems that the default bit rate is 5001 kbps
[09:49] <indus> !cron | jitender
[09:49] <jitender> any body know about cron
[09:53] <indus> asfjio: hello
[09:53] <oogies_> hello
[09:53] <Arabus> Ah found it, there is a "place windows" plugin in the compizconfig settings manager
[09:54] <asfjio> indus: hello, i'm definately cursed. now i've got the same error as the beginning "failed to load Nvidia kernel module" " screens found, but none have a usable configuration"
[09:54] <indus> asfjio: ya thats ok
[09:54] <indus> asfjio: go to system>administration > hardware drivers
[09:54] <asfjio> indus: i'm there
[09:54] <indus> asfjio: what do u see
[09:56] <asfjio> indus: "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system" "NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version 173) [Recommended]" and button activate and close. another notice "this driver is not activated".
[09:56] <indus> asfjio: excellent, click on activate
[09:57] <indus> asfjio: it it says restart system , you are in luck
[09:58] <asfjio> indus: it done some things and now i'm again on that window. nothing changed and not asking for reboot.
[09:58] <indus> asfjio: what did it do
[09:58] <indus> asfjio: just press ATL-SYsrq- K
[09:58] <asfjio> indus: activate and then asked to autheniticate as user that have root access.
[09:59] <indus> asfjio: ok
[09:59] <indus> asfjio: did it start downloading?
[09:59] <asfjio> indus: in the dialog it was "downloading and installing driver" if i'm not mistaken
[09:59] <indus> asfjio: yes
[10:00] <indus> asfjio: then what happened
[10:00] <asfjio> indus: and bring me back to the same window. and still says this driver is not activated.
[10:00] <indus> asfjio: ok do one thing, remove that kernel we installed
[10:00] <indus> asfjio: remember >? restricted something
[10:01] <indus> asfjio: we start from beginning, but you must have realised,you were installing wrong driver
[10:01] <indus> asfjio: now atleast we have the correct driver version
[10:01] <indus> asfjio: so go to synaptic, and install the 173 driver
[10:01] <indus> then reastart
[10:02] <indus> also dont forget to remove that kernel we installed, i dont think its needed anyway
[10:02] <hipitihop_> in aan ssh session I get following error "(users-admin:18738): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: localhost:10.0" suggestions ?
[10:03] <elli222> use X11 Forwarding
[10:03] <hateball> hipitihop: ssh -X to enable X forward
[10:03] <asfjio> indus: when i search for nvidia-glx-173 i've got "nvidia-173-kernel-source which says installed" and "nvidia-173-modaliases which is upgradable"
[10:04] <hateball> hipitihop: eg, ssh -X user@host
[10:04] <indus> asfjio: yes do it
[10:04] <elli222> Hmm, why is there only a i386 package of assaultcube in debian?
[10:04] <asfjio> indus: upgrade the modaliases package?
[10:04] <indus> asfjio: yes
[10:05] <cybic> hey everybody... looking for a hint (like everytime)  :) i altered my hal policy for x with the lines for maxSpeed and minSpeed like  <merge key="input.x11_options.MaxSpeed" type="string">4.0</merge> :) works perfect after restart/reboot but do nothing after resume... what could be the prob?
[10:05] <markyxyz> hi all! can anyone confirm that Networkmanager (or its KDE counterpart) can't setup an ADSL connection properly?  my searches seem to point to WIDC.  :)
[10:05] <asfjio> indus: upgrading..
[10:05] <Nearsight> Hi #ubuntu, can someone help me with a package issue? I accidently manulay deleted some files in my ruby installation... I apt-get purged ruby and reinstalled it, which doesn't seem to lead to a clean new installation though
[10:05] <indus> asfjio: scroll down there is also a driver nvidia-glx-173
[10:05] <indus> asfjio: just open a terminal and do sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-173
[10:05] <elli222> whoops, wrong channel :P
[10:05] <asfjio> indus: it was installed too. i forgot to tell about it
[10:05] <markyxyz> anyone?
[10:05] <indus> asfjio: installed hmm ,
[10:06] <markyxyz> i don't wanna do pon dsl-provider all the time
[10:06] <indus> asfjio: have you upgraded your system?
[10:06] <asfjio> indus: no, but you told me to install 173 instead of 180.
[10:06] <indus> asfjio: ya thats true
[10:07] <asfjio> indus: i think its normal that now it is installed. ?
[10:07] <indus> asfjio: yeah
[10:07] <indus> asfjio: please upgrade the sytem first
[10:07] <asfjio> indus: okay the modaliases is upgraded.
[10:07] <indus> asfjio: it happens that some kernel modules have not arrived , so driver wont activate
[10:08] <asfjio> indus: what do you mean? what should i do?
[10:08] <indus> asfjio: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:09] <indus> asfjio: ill brbrafter a deadly cigarette
[10:09] <indus> asfjio: dont forget to reboot
[10:10] <asfjio> indus: then try to install again 173? sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-173? and then reboot?
[10:10] <indus> asfjio: no its already installed
[10:10] <asfjio> indus: okay.
[10:10] <indus> asfjio: upgrade whole system first before proceeding further
[10:11] <theadmin> I got me the upgrade manager notification icon back, and now my question is: WTF!? Why was it disabled by default?
[10:12] <arj> hello. I have upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10 to help test, but software from official sources (skype 2.1 beta and virtualbox) have strange fonts. How do I fix this?
[10:12] <Madpilot> arj, #ubuntu+1 for 9.10 questions
[10:12] <Madpilot> thanks
[10:12] <arj> ok :)
[10:13] <theadmin> there is a kernel upgrade available. Should i install it or should i wait for Karmic? I mean, just 3 days left.
[10:14] <aXaXin> hello all
[10:14] <theadmin> Hi, AxaXin.
[10:14] <aXaXin> i have a question concerning ATI drivers
[10:14] <Madpilot> theadmin, install it, your system will update itself before you upgrade anyway
[10:14] <aXaXin> should i shout it here or is there other way of doing things
[10:15] <theadmin> Madpilot: I'll better wait then, i heard it causes bugs on jaunty.
[10:15] <theadmin> Well, aXaXin, say here, if noone helps ask the forums
[10:15] <aXaXin> already been there lol :P
[10:15] <aXaXin> but here it goes
[10:15] <theadmin> :D
[10:16] <aXaXin> it's about the fglrx drivers in 9.04 and above
[10:16] <aXaXin> i'm stuck in 8.10 just beacause of that...
[10:16] <aXaXin> my ATI is a X700
[10:17] <aXaXin> In a Toshiba
[10:17] <aXaXin> (what is the command to show the details of the chipset?)
[10:18] <theadmin> hmnh. I'll look trough yesterdays logs
[10:18] <Adamanta> Hi. Could someone please tell me which Ubunutu download I need to run it on the PS3?
[10:19] <aXaXin> theadmin: .. any ideas?
[10:19] <aXaXin> or anyone else?
[10:19] <aXaXin> lol
[10:19] <theadmin> Wait, i'll... find it now. Wait a bit
[10:19] <Adamanta> Can I just use the desktop edition?
[10:20] <theadmin> Adamanta: Probably not. Dunno.
[10:20] <Adamanta> Info it pretty thin on the ground considering it's a popular thing to do.
[10:20] <aXaXin> http://psubuntu.com/wiki/InstallUbuntu
[10:21] <aXaXin> Adamanta: that site shows everything about ps3 and ubuntu :)
[10:23] <Adamanta> I can't seem to get v9 for ps3 though
[10:23] <Adamanta> Nothing in these folders: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/
[10:24] <bugfixbug> #join #c++
[10:24] <aXaXin> Adamanta: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/daily/current/
[10:25] <aXaXin> you have karmic for ps3
[10:25] <Adamanta> ax-ax: Thanks
[10:25] <aXaXin> ppl... c'mon... fglrx in 9,10
[10:26] <aXaXin> or 9.04....
[10:27] <aXaXin> i've searched but it seams like ATI or ubuntu just fogot the older chipsets....
[10:28] <Teastro> i have a general problem, i don't understand why but my audio doesn't work anymore, i tryed to fix the problem installing a new version of alsa and pulseaudio, but it doesn't want work...any advice?
[10:28] <theadmin> xorg-driver-fglrx - looks like one you need, aXaXin
[10:28] <anix> #claroline
[10:28] <aXaXin> theadmin: what's the command to see what driver i have installed?
[10:29] <theadmin> aXaXin: Not sure, actually, but just see if that package is installed.
[10:29] <Creap_> how can I install a deb package (of a testing version) with the same name as a package I already have installed, without replacing the old one?
[10:30] <itguru> If I'm building a gateway with multiple ISP connections, can I use iptables to prefer one route over another, only using the second route if the first one has failed?
[10:30] <theadmin> Creap_: Not possible, i'd assume.
[10:30] <joaopinto> Creap_, you can't
[10:30] <Creap_> ok
[10:30] <Creap_> :\
[10:31] <joaopinto> Ubuntu does not allow to install multiple versions of the same package
[10:31] <zvacet> Creap_:  testing version probably have higher number
[10:31] <aXaXin> theadmin: yes it's installed the problem is, is that driver available in 9.04 or 9.10?
[10:31] <theadmin> Creap_: Just stick to the stable version.
[10:31] <theadmin> aXaXin: I see it in Synaptic, so yes it is. I have 9.04
[10:32] <Creap_> ok
[10:32] <Creap_> I need both though.
[10:32] <aXaXin> i'm concerned beacause when i start the update to 9.04 it's says that it no longer supports the fglrx driver that i currently have installed
[10:33] <theadmin> aXaXin: Huh. Maybe it's not the one then.
[10:34] <Madpilot> aXaXin, 9.04 and onward have much improved Free drivers for a lot of ATI vidcards. You could well not NEED fglrx anymore
[10:34] <Teastro> I have xubuntu 9.04 and i don't listen audio anymore...and i don't understand why. Any advice to find the problem?
[10:34] <aXaXin> mine is the x700
[10:35] <aXaXin> is a x700 in a toshiba laptop...
[10:35] <aXaXin> M70 to be precise
[10:36] <theadmin> aXaXin: Quick googling seems to give positive results. You will probably need to enable some commercial drivers though (System -> Admininstration -> Hardware Drivers_
[10:37] <candykorn> Is there something like rainmeter or rainleder for ubuntu/ i would like time/weather displayed
[10:37] <psypher12> Hello all.
[10:37] <rblst> hi everyone
[10:38] <candykorn> hi
[10:38] <psypher12> I am just installing ubuntu server for the first time
[10:38] <theadmin> !hi | candykorn rblst psypher12
[10:38] <aafuentes> hi, when i do svn commit, it opens nano to write the log... then i press ctrl + x to leave but it promt me to save to a file the changes... i just want to change the log... what am i doing wrong?
[10:38] <psypher12> I decided to resize one of my partitions. Am I gonna lose all the data on that disk?
[10:38] <iceroot> aafuentes: the logfile is the file which changed, so its normal
[10:39] <psypher12> You should use tortoise svn lol
[10:39] <candykorn> Is there something like rainmeter or rainleder for ubuntu/ i would like time/weather displayed
[10:39] <iceroot> psypher12: normally now but make a backup!!!
[10:39] <candykorn> ?