[01:05] <sebastien> oh hi.
[01:06] <Sebastien> i would like to know if its possible for me to get a ubuntu/member cloak please. ( https://launchpad.net/~seblemery )
[01:10] <Sebastien> i will idle a bit in here, im cooking supper for my friends, ill brb :)
[01:21] <Pici> Sebastien: I'm sorry, only people who are members of the Ubuntu Members team on launchpad are eligable for an Ubuntu cloak.
[01:21] <Pici> !membership
[01:22] <Pici> !member
[01:22] <Pici> !lag
[01:22] <Sebastien> oh.
[01:22] <Sebastien> i see.
[01:23] <Sebastien> so helping out in #ubuntu-qc in french is not enouh? :"(
[01:31] <Pici> Perhaps it is, but you'd need to apply for membership.
[01:31] <Sebastien> oh, awesome :)
[01:42] <IdleOne> Pici: the first link is the correct/new one
[01:43] <IdleOne> the wiki recently got a face lift
[01:44] <IdleOne> what I mean by correct is more direct
[02:12] <Sebastien> Thank you Pici, i filled up all the requirements, and edited the pae to add mself to the next meeting.
[02:12] <Sebastien> can i idle in here?
[02:12] <Sebastien> pae/page *
[02:13] <Sebastien> mself/myself  -.- (i don't know what is wrong with my fingers tonight)
[11:18] <bcc> any staff about? I need to be a hassle and push forward ticket #23572
[11:18] <AlanBell> did you want #freenode instead?
[11:18] <bcc> nope
[11:18] <AlanBell> so, which ticketing system is that then?
[11:19] <bcc><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:20] <AlanBell> well I can't view that ticket, perhaps you want #canonical-sysadmin
[11:21] <bcc>  okay thanks
[11:21] <Myrtti> which staff are we talking about?
[11:22] <k1l> canonical server staff
[11:22] <bcc> ticket has been sorted :D
[11:22] <Myrtti> right
[11:22] <Myrtti> because freenode uses RT too...
[11:22] <Myrtti> got a bit confusing there for a moment, and I've not had my tea yet
[11:23]  * AlanBell puts the kettle on
[11:23]  * bcc one second cup of coffee already :|
[11:24] <Myrtti> my on-vacation-from-his-real-job tea-elf left to have the Volvo looked at and to have a haircut :-/
[11:27] <MooDoo> Myrtti: you need to stamp out that problem straight away ;)
[12:22] <Tm_T> Myrtti: I can do hair cuts, real cheap too!
[12:23] <Myrtti> you're a bit far away, dear
[12:23] <Tm_T> that is true, for now
[12:24] <MooDoo> just make him put a bowl on his head, use that as a guide, works well enough.
[12:25] <Myrtti> nnngggghh
[12:26] <Myrtti> MooDoo: it works beatifully for kids, but not for adults...
[12:28] <Tm_T> MooDoo: that's pretty far from how I would do it
[12:28] <DJones> Haircuts..Isn't that were you get a set of clippers and just shave your head on 0 setting to hide grey/bald spots
[12:28] <Tm_T> after me there wouldn't be any hair to protect with bowl
[12:28] <Tm_T> DJones: I thought I was supposed to hilight greys and balds
[12:28] <Myrtti> DJones: ... it's the thing I've avoided for 4 years
[12:30] <DJones> Over the years, I've gone from having a ponytail that reached my waist, to having a clipped on a 0 I just didn't want to look like Francis Rossi
[12:39] <MooDoo> DJones: or terry nutkins ;)
[12:39] <DJones> MooDoo: :)
[12:39] <MooDoo> number 1 for me all over
[12:40] <DJones> NUmber 1.... Hippy, go with a 0
[12:41] <MooDoo> DJones: did that once, looked like a peanut with glasses ;)


[06:12] <ashickur-noor> hi
[06:12] <ashickur-noor> need some help about Ubuntu marketing
[06:16] <ashickur-noor> ??
[06:36] <ashickur-noor> any body here?


[02:29] <bddebian> Heya gang
[02:43] <juantao> Hello. Do you know of any application that would help a spanish speaker learn english ?
[02:44] <juantao> ESL /GPL
[06:45] <highvoltage> edubuntugirl: tell ogra glad to see that the 2nd cd as repo is kind of panning out :)
[06:45] <edubuntugirl> Righto, highvoltage!
[07:48] <ulinskie> j #iosn
[07:48] <ulinskie> shit heheh
[07:48] <ulinskie> sowwy
[10:02] <kihai> Hi guys. I need some help here: After upgrading to edgy with update-manager I got a faulty ltsp installation. sudo ltsp-build-client gave me: perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[10:02] <kihai> Leaving `diversion of /etc/mtab to /etc/mtab.real by ltsp-client'
[10:02] <kihai> `/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list' -> `/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list.old'
[10:02] <kihai> ln: creating symbolic link `/dev/fd' to `/proc/self/fd': File exists
[10:02] <kihai> error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
[10:02] <kihai> Any help on this?
[10:04] <Burgundavia> kihai: I would try back later
[10:04] <Burgundavia> all of our LTSP experts are currently at the developer summit, and it is 1am there
[10:05] <kihai> I'm having a lot of people waiting for the clients to work again....
[10:05] <Burgundavia> right
[10:06] <kihai> hmm, looks like bad luck then... :)
[10:06] <Burgundavia> try the mailing list
[10:07] <Burgundavia> sorry I cannot be more help
[10:26] <kihai> OK, I'll try to update the ltsp chroot again and if that doesn't work I will delete it and try to build it again. Does anyone know if the packages downloaded by ltsp-build-client will be saved so that I don't have to down them again?
[10:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> afaik not
[10:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> but maybe they are saved in the chroot
[10:38] <kihai> Just tried it. They don't get saved. I'll have to download them again...
[10:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> :(
[10:39] <cbx33> anyone had any experience opening power supplies
[10:39] <cbx33> I have one with no screws
[10:39] <cbx33> and can't get it to open
[10:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> never seen one with no screws
[10:41] <cbx33> heheh
[10:41] <cbx33> well this one has no screws not even under stickey labels
[10:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool. wish i could break it
[10:45] <kihai> Can anyone help me with this error message from update-notifier: Error: Opening the cache (E:Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/de.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy-updates_Release -open (13 Permission denied), E: the package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.)
[10:46] <kihai> When I open Synaptic, I don't see any errors or broken packages, though
[10:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm.
[10:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> i'm not sure.
[10:51] <kihai> ...and the ltsp-build-client failed, too, somehow. There'S an error about locale settings and it says that pxe is not configured. First the clients could find an operating system, then I changed the path of the linux image in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf. Now the clients boot up until the graphic bootscreen but then I get a lot of "syslogd: /var/log/... read only filesystem" errors...
[10:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> kihai, do you have 'ltsp-server' isntalled?
[10:55] <kihai> yes
[10:56] <kihai> I had edubuntu dapper with a working ltsp and did the upgrade to edgy. Then I deleted the chroot tree and rebuilt it again, but that failed because of the wrong locale settings
[11:19] <cbx33> but i did a fresh install
[11:37] <kihai> I guess when this attempt fails as well, I'll do a clean install, too. It should be OK to just copy the home dirs and the passwd, group and shadow, shouldn't it?
[11:54] <cbx33> hey LaserJock
[12:39] <kihai> Hi again! I hope someone can help me on this: After upgrading to edgy update-notifier tells me: Error: Opening the cache (Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/de.archive...edgy_Release - open(13: Permission denied) The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[12:39] <kihai> Is there a way to reinstall those apparently broken packages?
[12:40] <kihai> I tried to rename the file, but after  a while update-notifier gave me the same error
[12:44] <LaserJock> hmm
[12:44] <LaserJock> I really don't have much of a clue there
[12:44] <LaserJock> have you tried using a different mirror?
[12:46] <kihai> Yes, but to no avail...
[01:41] <aze> hi all
[01:52] <theresa> the "gettingstarted" link on the edubuntu wiki doesn't work.... http://proto.edubuntu.org/gettingstarted
[02:26] <willvdl> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/GettingStarted
[02:26] <willvdl> woops wait a sec
[02:30] <highvoltage> proto.edubuntu.org is where the current website lived for a while
[02:30] <highvoltage> the wiki pages is in seious need of update :)
[02:32] <jsgotangco> hey
[02:34] <highvoltage> hey mr gotangco
[02:35] <willvdl> where is the gettingstarted node?
[02:36] <jsgotangco> wehehehe
[02:36] <highvoltage> willvdl: http://www.edubuntu.org/GettingStarted
[02:36] <highvoltage> jsgotangco: wow
[02:37] <jsgotangco> ive been saying that for 2 days already
[02:37] <highvoltage> jsgotangco: sorry, haven't been listening
[02:37] <jsgotangco> highvoltage: i meant "wow"
[02:37] <jsgotangco> hehe
[02:37] <willvdl> ah www, not wiki
[02:38] <highvoltage> jsgotangco: aaah :)
[02:38] <willvdl> highvoltage, familiar with autopackage?
[02:38] <jsgotangco> willvdl: yuck?
[02:39] <highvoltage> willvdl: nope
[02:39] <willvdl> yuck? why?
[02:39] <highvoltage> edubuntugirl: google autopackage
[02:39] <jsgotangco> highvoltage: wow its 0.07/minute on landline
[02:39] <edubuntugirl> highvoltage: Google found 'Autopackage : Easy Linux Software Installation', at http://autopackage.org/
[02:40] <jsgotangco> highvoltage: but 0.23 for mobile jeezz
[02:40] <willvdl> jsgotangco, what service is this?
[02:40] <willvdl> sounds neat
[02:40] <jsgotangco> sipphone
[02:40] <highvoltage> autopackage doesn't seem to use dpkg as a backend :-/
[02:40] <jsgotangco> nahh
[02:40] <jsgotangco> its a bunch of bash scripts
[02:41] <jsgotangco> but autopackage seems to get the favour of some upstream projects
[02:41] <highvoltage> willvdl: I would suggest taking a look at the ubuntu packaging guide, and then using a debian package with gdebi or something similar
[02:42] <willvdl> this is why I am curious
[02:42] <highvoltage> willvdl: I'm currently working on a tool called 2-Pack, which will be a gdebi-like tool for .deb files
[02:42] <willvdl> highvoltage, looking into this after our last discussion
[02:42] <jsgotangco> willvdl: well for content providers who do not want to be package specific, autopackage seems to be a nice sell
[02:42] <jsgotangco> since it will basically work on any distro
[02:42] <highvoltage> willvdl: I'll send you a tuxlab cd next week, you could get it off the disc and investigate if you want
[02:42] <willvdl> awesome
[02:43] <highvoltage> you can then get the latest xola, j-zee and 2pack from there
[02:43] <willvdl> excellent
[02:43] <willvdl> j-zee?
[02:43] <jsgotangco> willvdl: but its been criticised to be a bit of a mess and installing stuff where its not supposed to
[02:43] <highvoltage> j-zee tracks software usage, and makes sure that kids can only run one instance of gcompris, ktuberling, etc at a time
[02:43] <willvdl> jsgotangco, hmmm, I'm tempted to tell people to produce rpm and dev and leave it there
[02:44] <highvoltage> j-zee is just a wrapper
[02:44] <highvoltage> but it works well.
[02:44] <willvdl> highvoltage, nice
[02:44] <jsgotangco> highvoltage: that's pretty neat
[02:44] <willvdl> can see where that's going
[02:44] <willvdl> all yours? or are you working on it with someone
[02:44] <jsgotangco> willvdl: ive used it, it looks nice, but i dunno if its clean
[02:45] <willvdl> jsgotangco, you mean autopackage no doubt
[02:45] <jsgotangco> willvdl: yes
[02:45] <highvoltage> willvdl: at the moment just me, there's some other stuff I'm working on too, but I'll open it up to wider people soon to get wider testing/feedback/contributions
[02:46] <jsgotangco> like i said, some upstream projects who do not want to do specific pckages seem to like it
[02:46] <willvdl> the "Smart" board people are working on linux support
[02:46] <willvdl> http://www.smarttech.com/support/software/linux.asp
[02:46] <willvdl> which is where I saw it
[02:46] <jsgotangco> yeah
[02:46] <jsgotangco> even Xara has an autopackage listed
[02:47] <willvdl> highvoltage, that's something I'd like to play with too (if there's ever time)
[02:47] <willvdl> hmm, food for thought
[02:47] <highvoltage> cool. does the schools you work with have smartboards?
[02:47] <highvoltage> btw, anyone know if a quad-opteron machine will work with a 686-smp kernel?
[02:49] <willvdl> highvoltage, smart are on of the consortium members
[02:50] <willvdl> they're on HP, Cisco and M$ consortiums
[02:50] <highvoltage> aaah
[02:50] <willvdl> but have really done only a bit on NEPAD
[02:50] <willvdl> they supplied Khanya
[02:51] <willvdl> highvoltage, I thought the 686 kernel had smp built in?
[02:51] <highvoltage> willvdl: it does
[02:51] <highvoltage> willvdl: but will it support all the cores in an AMD?
[02:52] <willvdl> why would there be a 686-smp kernel as well then?
[02:52] <highvoltage> oh, there isn't :)
[02:52] <highvoltage> the -generic kernel /is/ the 686-smp kernel :)
[02:52] <willvdl> ah...sigh, only ever had a K6 to play with
[02:52] <highvoltage> I could've just said the -generic kernel, but I'm being explicit
[02:52] <willvdl> that noisy thing that used to sit on my tsf desk
[02:53] <highvoltage> because 686 will work on it, but I'd like to know if I can use all cores without installing a special kernel for it
[02:53] <highvoltage> willvdl: aaah
[02:53] <willvdl> ask Jason
[02:53] <willvdl> I think he has one
[02:53] <highvoltage> willvdl: I'm interested in quad opteron servers for the schools, they should perform quite well as ltsp servers
[02:54] <highvoltage> I had a K6 *ages* ago. It felt so fast the day I bought it... that was probably the one chip I owned that got obsolete the fastest.
[02:54] <highvoltage> (not like my 386 that I used for 5 years)
[02:55] <willvdl> the Sun machines he was given for freedom toaster I think have quad opterons
[02:55] <willvdl> what's the cost benefit like?
[02:55] <willvdl> sorry K7
[03:00] <highvoltage> I think those that jason has are dual opterons
[03:00] <willvdl> hmm, probably
[03:00] <highvoltage> willvdl: I haven't looked at the prices yet, but apparently they are coming down fast, I think they're still slightly more expensive than the Intel servers we use
[03:00] <highvoltage> but the performance should be remarkably better.
[03:01] <highvoltage> (if you can use all the cpus/cores properly)
[03:01] <willvdl> as long as they can handle the environment... heat etc.
[03:01] <willvdl> how many seats you want to drive off of it?
[03:02] <highvoltage> this isn't for a specific project, I'm just wondering, I actually need to buy myself a new machine and I thought of getting a quad-opteron to play with, and then investigate it as our new standard server
[03:44] <kihai> Could anybody help me? I just made a fresh edgy edubuntu install and after I booted the first client, the next one doesn't receive a dhcp offer, although the dhcp server is running
[04:18] <bddebian> Heya
[04:18] <aze> hey you
[04:44] <stgraber> nixternal: ping
[04:44] <nixternal> pongers
[04:45] <stgraber> can you come on 5000 ? I just bought an USB headset and I absolutely don't know if my mic volume is correct
[04:45] <nixternal> lemme boot up my voip box
[04:49] <nixternal> ok, it says im connected to 5000
[04:49] <migi> hello
[04:50] <stgraber> ok
[04:50] <nixternal> talk
[04:50] <nixternal> i can hear you, you need to tweak some settings..it sounds like a lot of bass, or echo yes
[04:52] <nixternal> still some echo
[04:52] <stgraber> ok, I hope that's cause of the room I'm currently in, it's a quite small room
[04:52] <nixternal> i wish there was a way that you could mute and umute when you use the mic
[04:53] <nixternal> stgraber: thats exactly what it sounded like..like you were in a small room
[04:53] <nixternal> maybe move the mic closer to you?
[04:53] <nixternal> big difference
[04:53] <stgraber> I'm in my room, with a lot more space :)
[04:53] <nixternal> hehe
[04:53] <nixternal> does that mic have a mute button on it?
[04:54] <stgraber> no, only a volume changer thing that doesn't work :)
[04:54] <nixternal> hehe
[04:54] <stgraber> and a led that's flickering all the time (ugly blue led)
[04:54] <nixternal> it seems whenever there is an open mic on the network, there is a crackling sound
[04:54] <nixternal> blue is not ugly ;)
[04:54] <stgraber> mine is muted
[04:55] <nixternal> you disconnected
[04:55] <nixternal> you are back
[04:55] <stgraber> yes
[04:55] <stgraber> still these crackling sounds ?
[04:55] <nixternal> nope
[04:55] <stgraber> and now ?
[04:56] <nixternal> nope
[04:56] <nixternal> i don't hear anything
[04:56] <nixternal> a very slight high pitched sound, but nothing that would distrub a conference
[04:56] <nixternal> and i only hear that because of the network silence
[04:56] <stgraber> good, but I didn't change anything :)
[04:57] <nixternal> are you still muted?
[04:57] <stgraber> yes
[04:57] <nixternal> i hear no talking at all
[04:57] <nixternal> oh ok
[04:57] <nixternal> now i hear you
[04:57] <nixternal> that mic picks up everything..i hear you breathing
[04:58] <stgraber> yes, good thing that means I'm still alive :)
[04:58] <nixternal> you sounded good there, however i couldn't pick up what you were saying...very strong accent, or you were speaking a language other than english ;)
[04:58] <nixternal> hahahahahhahaha
[04:58] <stgraber> hehe :)
[04:58] <nixternal> i can barely understand english as it is
[04:59] <stgraber> My english prononciation isn't good at all, I got some frenglish speakers and then that's hard to learn a good one :)
[05:00] <nixternal> lol
[05:00] <nixternal> ok, i knew it was french...
[05:00] <nixternal> i disconnected...i need to go and vote for some more idiots to run this oh so great country ;)
[05:02] <stgraber> :)
[05:02] <stgraber> btw, I also disconnected : "Your laptop is out of power and will shutdown now"
[05:56] <kihai> Hi guys! Any LTSP experts around???
[05:58] <cbx33> there is at least one
[06:04] <kihai> OK, does anyone know what could cause my prob with the dhcpd of ltsp? The server is running and I can boot up one client. When I try to boot the next client, it doesn't receive an IP address from the dhcp server. Everything is freshly installed
[06:04] <kihai> ...I'm using edgy
[06:07] <azenux> there's something in the log ?
[06:09] <kihai> Ahem, in which log should I look? in /var/log/messages I don't find anything. Or do I have to look in the chroot logs?
[06:11] <highvoltage> running out of memory--
[06:12] <azenux> kihai both
[06:13] <cbx33-gilbert> hey highvoltage
[06:17] <highvoltage> hey cbx33-gilbert
[06:18] <highvoltage> gilbert?
[06:19] <cbx33-gilbert> heh
[06:19] <cbx33-gilbert> It looks like i may have found out what causes my sleepiness
[06:26] <cbx33-gilbert> it's called Gilberts Syndrome
[06:46] <highvoltage> cbx33-gilbert: oh? what's that?
[06:46] <highvoltage> edubuntugirl: google for gilberts syndrome
[06:46] <edubuntugirl> highvoltage: Google found 'GILBERT'S SYNDROME - a patient's guide', at http://www.medic8.com/healthguide/articles/gilbertsyn.html
[06:54] <highvoltage> I wonder why they make medical terms so complicated.
[07:12] <bronze> "guild rules"
[07:13] <bronze> "whoever has the guilders, makes the rules"
[08:06] <highvoltage> 1
[08:10] <stgraber> RichEd: still no stable wireless connection ? :)
[08:11] <RichEd> If you mean my wireless. it's fine. I keep on hibernating my notenook when moving from room to room and that's why you see me dropping in and out.
[08:13] <stgraber> a ok :)
[08:15] <RichEd> stgraber: walking around with an open notebook, and the potential for dropping and damage is more of a hassle than restarting from hiernate
[08:15] <stgraber> Did you have a BOF about Student Control Panel update today ?
[08:16] <stgraber> RichEd: You are lucky to have a working hibernate :)
[08:16] <RichEd> stgraber: hibernate is a.ok for me. suspend is dodgy and hangs around 1 in 5 times
[08:18] <aldwin> can anyone help with my problem with linux ubuntu. here's how it go: i hav an amd x2 (dual core) 64bit 3.8ghz pc and i did download and tried both the desktop 6.10 for amd64 and the 6.10 alternate for amd64bit but both didn't work. i just endup with starting the cd and it did boot me up to the main menu of the disk. when i tried the install option. nothing happens... (just the splash screen of a black and white ubuntu logo, nothing more).
[08:18] <stgraber> I saw a BOF for SCPU scheduled but not on VOIP, did it happen or is it rescheduled ?
[08:19] <RichEd> stgraber: i was just looking that up for you. it is a drafting session only. ogra will be doing that on his own. laserjock had to leave last night.
[08:19] <stgraber> ok
[08:19] <RichEd> aldwin: ubuntu or edubuntu ?
[08:20] <stgraber> Nothing really interessting from my POV today (or at least for the less I can see on the VOIP schedule)
[08:20] <aldwin> Riched: ubuntu
[08:20] <stgraber> aldwin: When you have the splash screen, try to see the text output by pressing ESC or F2 (I can't remember)
[08:21] <stgraber> aldwin: anyway, here that's the edubuntu channel, not the Ubuntu one
[08:21] <RichEd> aldwin: i suggest you also ask in #ubuntu then ... both channels may a bit quiet as the main players are all at a developer summit
[08:21] <stgraber> aldwin: and if that's for a personnal use, I would recommend you to switch to a 32bit OS (to have flash and other binary softwares working)
[08:21] <stgraber> good bye
[08:21] <stgraber> :)
[08:21] <RichEd> nice polite exit
[08:21] <RichEd> not
[08:39] <floydwilde> How to set lcd xorg settings on thin client w/ edubutu?
[08:46] <stgraber> Hi
[08:47] <stgraber> I don't really understand your question, can you reformulate it ?
[08:49] <stgraber> What kind of settings do you want to set (resolution ?), what's the current problem (for instance unusable resolution on a thin client), ... ?
[08:51] <floydwilde> Yes the resolution came up 640x480 and 60 hz
[08:51] <floydwilde> No option to change in preferences
[08:51] <floydwilde> it's a ViewSonic VG700
[08:51] <stgraber> ok, there is an option in the lts.conf you can set to change the resolution on a specific thin client (by MAC address) or on all of them
[08:52] <stgraber> (just let me boot my edubuntu computer :) )
[08:52] <stgraber> is that only for one thin client or for all of them ?
[08:53] <floydwilde> we are switching to lcd, I have a fiew viewsonic and another model
[08:53] <stgraber> ok, the system is done this way, there is a default value and then some exceptions
[08:53] <stgraber> so choose the resolution you have the most as default
[08:53] <stgraber> and get a list of all the other computers MAC addresses
[08:54] <floydwilde> whats the path to lts
[08:55] <stgraber> /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
[08:55] <floydwilde> yep there it is
[08:55] <floydwilde> wait, I don't have one there
[08:56] <floydwilde> using defaults never made an lts.conf, this is muekow right?
[08:56] <floydwilde> /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client/examples/lts.conf
[08:57] <floydwilde> should I create one from this file?
[08:57] <stgraber> hmm, just a small question What version of Edubuntu are you using ?
[08:57] <floydwilde> dapper
[08:58] <stgraber> no, you can simply create an empty one, I will give you the few lines I have here in mine
[08:58] <floydwilde> awesome!
[08:58] <stgraber> ok, that's why you don't have one by default
[08:59] <stgraber> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30542/
[08:59] <stgraber> that's the default edgy one
[08:59] <stgraber> it should also work on Dapper
[09:00] <stgraber> then you can add (in the [default] ) section : X_MODE_0=800x600 (or any other resolution)
[09:00] <stgraber> it will be the default resolution on your LTSP network (just try with a client if you can to check that the lts.conf file works correctly)
[09:01] <floydwilde> do you have localdev working on edgy?
[09:02] <stgraber> yes
[09:02] <floydwilde> it doesn't work in dapper from what I understand
[09:02] <stgraber> sound and localdev works from the begining, nothing to set (at least for me)
[09:02] <stgraber> yes, there was a lot of work for that in Edgy
[09:03] <floydwilde> do you have to restart anything or just reboot client?
[09:03] <stgraber> now, you plug your USB key, a cdrom, or any mass storage thing and it appears in Nautilus and on the Desktop as it was local
[09:03] <stgraber> just reboot the client
[09:07] <floydwilde> hmm still to big, there is a ViewSonic VGA700b that works okay though
[09:07] <floydwilde> Unfortunately mostly we just have VGA700
[09:07] <floydwilde> I mean VG700
[09:08] <nixternal> floydwilde: !!!!
[09:08] <nixternal> wasabi homer
[09:08] <floydwilde> Helloooo
[09:08] <nixternal> creating tension in the LUG i see ;)
[09:09] <floydwilde> Hey I gots to be me
[09:09] <nixternal> hahahaha
[09:09] <nixternal> how much are you looking at spending ona  lappy btw?  tiger direct in naperville has some sub 500 deals, refurbs that might work out well
[09:09] <floydwilde> I just scored some LCD screens tryingto make them play nice w/ ltsp
[09:09] <nixternal> nm, this is the edubuntu chan btw ;)
[09:09] <stgraber> Another ubuntu-chicago member ? :)
[09:10] <nixternal> i thought this was codlug for a sec, then i noticed all the wonderful people
[09:10] <floydwilde> yeah talk in cod(g)lug
[09:10] <nixternal> stgraber: we goto school and CoDLUG together ;)
[09:10] <stgraber> ok :)
[09:10] <stgraber> nixternal: You are lucky to have some other Ubuntu users @ school :)
[09:10] <nixternal> i forgot he was in #edubuntu as well, and i thought it was members of the LUG talking ;)
[09:10] <stgraber> here, as soon as you don't use Windows you are an alien :)
[09:11] <nixternal> floydwilde uses it more than I do, and he found out about it at the courthouse as well
[09:11] <floydwilde> Yeah didja ever hear anything about that
[09:11] <floydwilde> They weren't using ltsp, but some vnc type setup
[09:11] <nixternal> no, i talked to the admin there and he has no idea about Linux
[09:12] <lucasvo> omg another edu-distro
[09:12] <lucasvo> >http://www.lerntux.de/
[09:12] <stgraber> floydwilde: ok, so set the X_MODE_0 to the value that's used the most on your network, then set some other sections (like the default one)
[09:13] <stgraber> [IP-OF-THE-CLIENT]  or [MAC-OF-THE-CLIENT]
[09:13] <stgraber> and then set a custom X_MODE_0 for it
[09:13] <floydwilde> X_MODE_0 got it
[09:15] <nixternal> ya same here
[09:24] <floydwilde> I added X_MODE_0 and X_Color_Depth settings to lts.conf but no luck
[09:25] <stgraber> floydwilde: where did you put them ? in the [default]  section ?
[09:26] <floydwilde> yes
[09:29] <floydwilde> oh do i have lts.conf in the wrong place, /opt/ltsp/i386
[09:29] <floydwilde> should it be: /opt/ltsp/i386/etc
[09:30] <stgraber> at least in edgy it's in the etc directory yes
[09:30] <stgraber> I can't remember for Dapper
[09:30] <stgraber> just try :)
[09:32] <floydwilde> hmm still no dice
[09:33] <floydwilde> I think it read the config file though
[09:34] <floydwilde> what about editing the x config in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/X11?
[09:36] <stgraber> you can but I'm not sure LTSP really read this part (because of the X_MODE_0 option)
[09:37] <floydwilde> Ok a googling I shall go
[09:38] <stgraber> the LTSP lts.conf do is here http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtsConf
[09:38] <stgraber> but I don't know (and can't find) the list of the implemented lts.conf options in Dapper
[10:06] <floydwilde> had to set the horzsync and vert settings, but now resolution is at 1024x768
[10:08] <leManu> hi all, does anybody know who's maintaining edubuntu wiki ?
[10:08] <LaserJock> well, the edubuntu wiki is just a theme on the Ubuntu wiki
[10:08] <leManu> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/ ?
[10:09] <LaserJock> yeah, it's the same as wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:09] <leManu> ok
[10:09] <LaserJock> it's just got some redirect and theming magic
[10:10] <leManu> the page behind Download on top needs updating, right ? talks about 5.10
[10:11] <LaserJock> leManu: yep, good catch
[10:14] <LaserJock> leManu: do you want to fix it?
[10:15] <leManu> LaserJock: the page is locked
[10:15] <LaserJock> oh sorry, I didn't see that
[10:16] <LaserJock> leManu: ah, I think you just need to login
[10:16] <LaserJock> from the Edubuntu side
[10:18] <leManu> think so, but don't know where and how...
[10:20] <LaserJock> leManu: there's a little login link
[10:20] <LaserJock> leManu: at the top of the search box
[10:20] <leManu> LaserJock: thx
[10:26] <jelkner> could anyone here help with a dhcp server problem?
[10:27] <jelkner> i keep getting "No subnet declaration for eth0 (<IP_ADDRESS>)"
[10:27] <jelkner> but i think i have /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf configured correctly.
[10:28] <jelkner> s dhcp.conf dhcpd.conf
[10:29] <stgraber> jelkner: can you paste.ubuntu-nl.org your dhcpd.conf and a result of the ifconfig command ?
[10:38] <jelkner> stgraber: done
[10:38] <jelkner> i got the server started
[10:38] <jelkner> turns out i need a subnet declaration for each interface
[10:38] <jelkner> not just the one i want to listen on
[10:38] <jelkner> so i added:subnet <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> {
[10:38] <jelkner> }
[10:39] <jelkner> and it worked
[10:39] <jelkner> but the clients are still not getting an address
[10:39] <jelkner> No DHCP or proxyDHCP offers were received
[10:51] <stgraber> It should work with your file (the one on pastebin) if you have one of the server interfaces inside this subnet
[10:51] <stgraber> then /etc/init.d/dhcpd restart should work
[10:51] <stgraber> there is no need to create an empty subnet
[10:56] <diplomat> I am about to install edubuntu on a computer for my daughter (almost 3), when she is 3 I plan to start teaching her to use the computer, have many of you had experience doing this at this age?
[10:59] <jelkner> stgraber: thanks, i had the wrong address on the interface 162 instead of 192 in the second octet
[10:59] <jelkner> thanks again
[11:25] <LaserJock> hi RichEd and ogra_
[11:26] <RichEd> hi LaserJock ... safe trip back ? no major fires on the work or domestic front ?
[11:26] <LaserJock> oh, it was pretty interesting
[11:26] <LaserJock> I haven't been that stressed in a long time
[11:26] <RichEd> the trip or the welcom ?
[11:26] <RichEd> *welcome
[11:27] <LaserJock> we got home at 1:00am
[11:27] <LaserJock> and then I worked on data analysis, etc. until 5:00am
[11:27] <RichEd> we ? who did you have with you ?
[11:27] <LaserJock> my wife
[11:27] <LaserJock> she was visiting her family (who we were staying with)
[11:27] <LaserJock> then I got to work at 9:30 and my boss wasn't so happy
[11:28] <RichEd> stgraber & nixternal : it's less interesting today because we have got the major requirements under control & on track yesterday. ogra and I are very pleased
[11:28] <LaserJock> but we did some last minute work and the presentation went off pretty well
[11:28] <RichEd> LaserJock: did you not have permission to be here AWOL or did your boss change his mind ?
[11:29] <LaserJock> heh, well since I was only taking 1 day off I didn't even ask him
[11:29] <LaserJock> we're usually pretty flexible here
[11:29] <LaserJock> in hindsight I probably should have just to let him know
[11:30] <LaserJock> anyway, it's all better now
[11:30] <LaserJock> the presentation is done
[11:30] <LaserJock> and we can get back to work


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[00:58] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: ping
[01:25] <geneiros> updating now...
[01:25] <geneiros> thank you for all...
[02:00] <stalcup> thanks Riddell for doing utils
[02:00] <stalcup> i'll start on lucid tonight
[02:01] <yofel> ok, now finally everything is built and updates fine - tested (I hope it works fine too...)
[02:17] <stalcup> mine tested fine too yofel and Riddell
[02:17] <stalcup> and ScottK ^
[02:17] <stalcup> 4.5.5
[02:27] <EagleScreen> hello
[02:27] <EagleScreen> I have been working in packaging KDE4 version of Kdbg
[02:28] <EagleScreen> my package works pretty well, but the Kdbg.desktop in KDE menu hasn't icon
[02:29] <EagleScreen> as like as in the old kde3 version package, I must to copy an xpm icon to debian/ folder, and install it in /usr/share/pixmaps
[02:29] <stalcup> EagleScreen: checkout opendesktop.org
[02:30] <EagleScreen> how do I type that order in the debian/rules ?
[02:30] <stalcup> EagleScreen: or ask persia
[02:30] <stalcup> packagename.desktop
[02:32] <EagleScreen> I already have the .desktop file, and also de icon file, I donn't know how to made the installation of the icon in debian/rules
[02:32] <stalcup> take the icon, and kate icon and add your desktop filrs
[02:35] <EagleScreen> I think I must add to debian/rules something like this: binary-indep: install -m 644 debian/kdbg.xpm debian/tmp/usr/share/pixmaps
[02:36] <EagleScreen> or: binary-arch: dh_install debian/kdbg.xpm /usr/share/pixmaps
[03:33] <stalcup> no party people tonight?
[03:40] <ScottK> EagleScreen: Or if you have an install file, binarypackage.install with the contents something like debian/kdbg.xpm /usr/share/pixmaps that would also work.
[03:41] <EagleScreen> I already am on it ScottK, thank you very much
[03:41] <ScottK> OK.
[03:41] <EagleScreen> but I dont understand one thing ScottK
[03:41] <ScottK> What's that?
[03:42] <EagleScreen> the source packages seems to have a uncompressed man (packagemane.1), but the ones in /usr/share/man/man1 are gzipped
[03:42] <EagleScreen> so must I copy it in an special way?
[03:44] <ScottK> List the man pages in binarypackagename.manpages and dh_installman (I think that's it's name) will do the magic.
[03:44] <stalcup> ScottK: Just to make sure before I wastw 2 hours, we need to package 4.5.5 for lucid, right?
[03:45] <ScottK> stalcup: Typically we don't.  After release we figure if you want that KDE release you ought to just upgrade.
[03:45] <ScottK> But if you wanted to update the backports PPA, that wouldn't be wrong.
[03:46] <stalcup> for lucid?
[03:46] <ScottK> Yes.
[03:46] <stalcup> okay ScottK, will do
[03:46] <stalcup> and once i'm done, i'll do some backport stuff
[03:46] <ScottK> stalcup: When you did 4.5.5, did you check to see if there were any SRU or security fixes from -updates/security that weren't included in upstream 4.5.5?
[03:47] <ScottK> OK.
[03:47] <stalcup> unless you would rather me do backports instead
[03:47] <ScottK> I think 4.5.5 for lucid is a very low priority.
[03:47] <stalcup> ScottK: no, I has trying to figure out the whole ppa
[03:47] <ScottK> It's your volunteering though, so up to you.
[03:47] <stalcup> ok, any suggestions for backports?
[03:48] <ScottK> stalcup: It'd be good then to check updates/security for Maverick to see if there's anything that should be included in the 4.5.5 packages.
[03:48] <stalcup> okay, will do
[03:48] <ScottK> When I prepared 4.4.5 for lucid-proposed I found quite a number of fixes that weren't included.
[03:48] <ScottK> Gotta run.
[03:49] <stalcup> later
[03:52] <stalcup> good
[03:52] <stalcup> no known bugs or security issues
[03:52] <stalcup> so far
[05:08] <stalcup> yofel: I feel rude for not introducing and stuff
[05:08] <stalcup> please accept my appology
[05:12] <stalcup> Riddell, are we having a meeting anytime soon?
[05:13] <stalcup> Riddell: or can I apply for membership via mailing list?
[05:52] <markey> RC2 works fine here :)
[05:53] <markey> first reboot failed, it just hang
[05:53] <markey> but second one worked
[05:53] <valorie> yup, working here also
[06:54] <markey> wow, the new Oxygen style engine for GTK looks great with the RC2 update :)
[06:54] <markey> basically, almost native
[07:07] <fenPad> 4.6 rc2 release?
[08:52] <apachelogger> Riddell: l10n on 10.10 still overwrites libkdepim4
[08:59] <markey> apachelogger: the new GTK-Oxygen theme engine is awesome
[08:59] <markey> finally, Chromium looks like a proper Qt app
[08:59] <markey> almost no difference :)
[09:00] <apachelogger> aye
[09:00]  * apachelogger uses ambiance though :P
[09:00] <markey> what is that?
[09:00] <apachelogger> me is now runnig gnome with kwin
[09:00] <apachelogger> very sickish it looks
[09:00] <markey> oh god
[09:00] <markey> you are teh crasies
[09:00] <apachelogger> markey: youbuntoos gtk theme
[09:01] <markey> I'm still trying to install Android 2.3 on my HTC Desire...
[09:01] <markey> been trying that for weeks
[09:01] <markey> but I am getting closer
[09:01] <markey> cracked the HTC security stuff today
[09:02] <apachelogger> pff
[09:02] <apachelogger> but I am crazy
[09:02]  * apachelogger now tries listening to Geräteüberhöhung.mp3
[09:02] <apachelogger> that is my encoding-fckd-up test file ^^
[09:02] <markey> you need professional help. ideally from a hobby shrink like me
[09:03] <markey> I can diagnose you
[09:03] <markey> "apachelogger is bat shit crazy."
[09:03] <markey> there!
[09:03] <apachelogger> I did not even get to lie down on a couch!!!!~!
[09:04] <valorie> you didn't sleep?
[09:04] <apachelogger> hahah
[09:04] <apachelogger> Qt Application(4725)/phonon (KDE plugin) Phonon::KioMediaStreamPrivate::_k_bytestreamResult: KIO Job error:  "The file or folder sftp://localhost/home/me/GerÃ¤teÃ¼berhÃ¶hung.mp3 does not exist."
[09:04] <apachelogger> valorie: I slept with 2 drugs
[09:04] <valorie> ah
[09:05] <valorie> that admission in black and white can get you arrested, you know
[09:05] <valorie> lol
[09:05] <apachelogger> it is the strangest thing
[09:06] <markey> apachelogger: you should come visit us sometime, Myri has some funny happy-happy pills
[09:06] <markey> that said, she does not give them out easily
[09:06] <markey> which is probably good :)
[09:09] <valorie> phonon doesn't like the ooooomlauts
[09:09] <markey> valorie: worksforme
[09:10] <apachelogger> valorie: sure it does
[09:10] <markey> make sure to set correct locale
[09:10] <apachelogger> it does not in urls
[09:10] <valorie> actually, I haven't had a problem in Amarok for a long time
[09:10] <apachelogger> which is mostly because I was not daring enough to change it to try encoding stuff on urls
[09:15] <apachelogger> oy vey
[09:15] <apachelogger> my new findPhonon is broken
[09:15] <apachelogger> -.-
[09:17] <valorie> :(
[09:17] <valorie> maybe because kpk is teh broke
[09:17] <valorie> ?
[09:18] <apachelogger> that has nothing todo with kpk
[09:18] <valorie> k
[09:19] <CIA-39> [runtime] sitter * 1212850 * branches/KDE/4.6/kdebase/runtime/phonon/CMakeLists.txt Phonon does not life on gitorious anymore, change url to anongit.kde.org
[09:20] <apachelogger> oh
[09:20] <apachelogger> I think what is bogus
[09:20]  * apachelogger does not like it though
[09:21] <apachelogger> yay
[09:21] <apachelogger> all fixed up
[09:35] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: since KDE is moving to git ... half our imports are going to break
[09:45] <apachelogger> well
[09:45] <apachelogger> cant be more than a days work to resolve
[09:45] <apachelogger> esp since it is subsequent anyway
[09:48] <shadeslayer> yeah ... but each project moves at a different time ....
[09:49] <apachelogger> exactly
[09:49] <apachelogger> so it is 5 minutes every day for 10 days orso
[09:50]  * apachelogger does not see the problem
[10:04] <valorie> I've noticed one annoying oddity with rc2 -- screen painting seems off
[10:05] <valorie> in konvi, sometimes the beginning of the line disappears before I hit return
[10:05] <valorie> sometimes the whole line
[10:06] <valorie> and in the browser (FF) the right and left halves of the screen seem to lose touch with one another
[10:06] <valorie> scrolling especially
[10:33] <jussi> what is the 4.6 standard plasma theme? air?
[10:48] <shadeslayer> jussi: yes
[10:53] <jussi> shadeslayer: ahh, ok, it doesnt look very good imho, so I changed it :)
[10:54] <yofel> 4.6 has a rather limited choice of plasma themes :S
[10:54] <shadeslayer> likewise
[10:54] <jussi> shadeslayer: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/01/08/plasma-desktopdh2166.jpg
[10:54] <yofel> oxygen has improved though
[10:54] <shadeslayer> oxygen is better now yes
[10:54] <shadeslayer> but ... plasma themes need a overhaul
[10:55] <yofel> trunk had a nice one that I found yesterday in neon, forgot the name
[10:55] <ulysses> http://people.ubuntu.com/~ulysses/kepek/oxygentransparent.png
[10:55] <ulysses> there is a theme called Androbit, it is developed by a Hungarian Debian user
[10:55] <jussi> ulysses: thats reasonably nice, but the icons on that theme feel fat to me
[10:55] <yofel> that does look cool, but window translucency without blur is crap :/
[10:56] <ulysses> Blur is buggy for me
[10:56] <jussi> oh, and the network icon on this theme is _soo_ much better
[10:56] <yofel> blur works fine here, *except* for the translucency plugin
[10:56] <yofel> heh, reminds me of the kde3 one
[10:57] <shadeslayer> jussi: nice icons ...
[10:58] <jussi> yofel: the current network icon sucks. its incredibly non recognisable
[10:58] <yofel> the wireless icon is good, the wired one is crap
[10:58] <yofel> I already had to explain what it's supposed to represent to a few people...
[10:59] <jussi> yeah, still, its a little bettter than the one that when it was connected it looked like it was disconnected
[11:01] <shadeslayer> yep
[11:01] <yofel> sheytan: design some new network icons :P
[11:01] <shadeslayer> some icons need a rehaul ... others got a rehaul
[11:01] <shadeslayer> dammit ... still no data recovery
[11:02] <shadeslayer> yofel: any ideas on how to repair my filesystem?
[11:02] <yofel> fat? nope, if a windows recovery app can't do anything I can't either
[11:02] <shadeslayer> well ... testdisk doesnt find my single FAT32 partition
[11:03] <yofel> and what happens if you mount it in linux?
[11:03] <yofel> fdisk did list it iirc
[11:05] <shadeslayer> thats just the WD Software partition
[11:06] <shadeslayer> if there is a way to force the partition to mount
[11:06] <yofel> can you show me the output again? I think that partition spanned the whole drive
[11:06] <shadeslayer> i bet the partition table is fscked up
[11:07] <shadeslayer> lol
[11:07] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/2010/
[11:07] <shadeslayer> nice paste url :>
[11:07] <yofel> heh
[11:07] <yofel> hm
[11:07] <yofel> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121515 cylinders
[11:08] <yofel> start: 1 end: 121515
[11:08] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/2011/ << :P
[11:08] <yofel> :D
[11:08] <yofel> shadeslayer: from the partition table sdb1 takes the whole disk
[11:10] <shadeslayer> hmm
[11:11] <shadeslayer> lets try mount then
[11:12] <shadeslayer> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,       missing codepage or helper program, or other error       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try       dmesg | tail  or so
[11:12] <shadeslayer> im pretty sure there was a command to fix that
[11:12] <shadeslayer> msft or something
[11:15] <shadeslayer> yofel: bad superblock
[11:15] <yofel> note: I don't know anything about trying to fix fat, if chkdsk fails I'm out of ideas
[11:17] <shadeslayer> just tried fsck.vfat no luck
[11:18] <shadeslayer> yofel: i cant find a option to force a mount
[11:20] <shadeslayer> [ 2294.534323] VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sdb1.
[11:21] <yofel> are you sure that's fat?
[11:21] <shadeslayer> yep
[11:21] <yofel> I assumed it's fat from the partition type, but is that actually the case?
[11:21] <yofel> hm...
[11:22] <shadeslayer> i didnt format it when it arrived and at that time it used fat32
[11:22] <shadeslayer> if only there was a way to re write the partition table
[11:27] <shadeslayer> ok starting a deeper search with testdisk
[11:32] <Quintasan> ScottK: ping
[11:43] <Quintasan> Riddell: Actually, this is maddness, the dh_python magic somehow makes sip.so into sip.cpython-31mu.so
[12:05] <sheytan> yofel i'm not doing icons :)
[12:06] <yofel> you could try, your other work is already great :P
[13:11] <shadeslayer> oh
[13:12] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: so phonon does not work with QML/QGraphics stuff, what does this mean for HTML5 videos rendered with QGWV ?
[13:12] <shadeslayer> no sound?
[13:12] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[13:12] <apachelogger> that someone should fix phonon?
[13:12] <shadeslayer> s/someone/apachelogger
[13:13]  * shadeslayer tries
[13:13] <shadeslayer> well
[13:13] <shadeslayer> cant.... no kdelibs5-dev :/
[13:13]  * shadeslayer starts writing blog
[13:13] <apachelogger> phonon does not depend on kdelibs
[13:14] <shadeslayer> s/kdelibs5-dev/libqt4-dev for my QGWV demo browser
[13:40] <seaLne> enabled the link on kde.org to kubuntu rc2 details
[13:43] <shadeslayer> kewl
[14:05] <BajK> hey, I modified the kubuntu-logo.script for plymouth to support the ask-question method (it is similar to the ask-for-password but it shows the thing you entered rather than just bullets). How can I propose this patch or something? Because I definitly need this method on my machines
[14:08] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: poke .. around?
[14:08] <apachelogger> and drunk
[14:08]  * apachelogger just had 3 glasses of beileys for breakfast
[14:08] <shadeslayer> 0_o
[14:09] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: need a topic for kubuntu-mobile Cfp @ conf.kde.in
[14:10] <rbelem> :-D
[14:10] <shadeslayer> oh rbelem you too
[14:10] <shadeslayer> altho
[14:10] <shadeslayer> i need a bigger SD card first :|
[14:11]  * apachelogger is probably moving in march
[14:11] <apachelogger> to the inner city
[14:12] <rbelem> shadeslayer, you could talk about installing it on mobile devices, like n900 and android devices, and how they can contribute
[14:13] <shadeslayer> well sure
[14:13] <shadeslayer> need a topic first tho :P
[14:13] <shadeslayer> and a bigger SD card to test on my desire :P
[14:14] <rbelem> shadeslayer, did you find a class 10?
[14:14] <rbelem> shadeslayer, Installing kubuntu-mobile on your smartphone :-D
[14:15] <shadeslayer> nah
[14:15] <shadeslayer> and nah
[14:15] <shadeslayer> need something snappier
[14:15] <apachelogger> ah
[14:15] <rbelem> hahaha :-D
[14:15] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you are talking?
[14:15] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yes! :P
[14:15] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: kubuntu mobile - bringing a desktop OS to the mobile market
[14:16] <apachelogger> you could talk a lot about challanges and stuff
[14:16] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: 45 mins should do it imp
[14:16] <shadeslayer> *imo
[14:16] <apachelogger> then show plasma-mobile without gles acceleartoin
[14:16] <apachelogger> and with
[14:16] <apachelogger> considering I get it to work at some point
[14:17] <apachelogger> and make it look like we did all sorts of work to make plasma-mobile the fastest ;)
[14:17] <shadeslayer> lol
[14:17] <apachelogger> which should be obvious from showing without gles and with gles
[14:17] <rbelem> apachelogger, nice topic name :-D
[14:17] <apachelogger> and quite honestly I for one think that actually forming the gles stuff into deployable form is the greater effort there anyway
[14:17] <apachelogger> with closed source drivers and whatnot
[14:17] <rbelem> apachelogger, the latest plasma-mobile version in natty is faster
[14:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: oh, you can also rant a bit about that
[14:18] <apachelogger> rbelem: did you get it to work with our kernel?
[14:18] <apachelogger> or with meego?
[14:18] <rbelem> apachelogger, meego
[14:18]  * apachelogger is all busy with phonon shit right now
[14:18] <apachelogger> rbelem: our kernel starts but then X fails, so I suppose we need some natty foobar for the kernel
[14:19] <apachelogger> didnt investigate why X fails though
[14:19]  * rbelem is busy with fileshare stuff
[14:19] <shadeslayer> oh i have a idea
[14:19] <shadeslayer> maybe i can upgrade that lucid chroot to natty
[14:19] <shadeslayer> and get it to work on my phone
[14:20] <rbelem> apachelogger, hum... is the sgx driver being build?
[14:22] <rbelem> apachelogger, i dont know how sgx drivers are used by X
[14:24] <apachelogger> not at all :P
[14:24] <apachelogger> well
[14:25] <apachelogger> not on omap3 AFAIK
[14:25] <apachelogger> omap4 has x drivers
[14:27] <rbelem> apachelogger, was shadeslayer that made that fileshare mockup?
[14:27] <rbelem> ops
[14:27] <rbelem> sheytan,
[14:28] <apachelogger> sheytan yes
[14:28] <apachelogger> sheytan: btw, any progress on phonon page? ;)
[14:31] <rbelem> sheytan, i would like to make some changes to the mockup and add afiestas to the discussion
[14:31] <sheytan> apachelogger nope :) Need to finde more time.
[14:31] <sheytan> rbelem which mock?
[14:32] <rbelem> shadeslayer, we are planning to make one fileshare kcm, that will have samba, webdav and bluetooth
[14:32] <rbelem> ops sheytan ^
[14:32] <rbelem> shadeslayer, sorry :-(
[14:32] <shadeslayer> :P
[14:32] <apachelogger> rbelem: I hope that is not going to be too crowded
[14:32] <rbelem> hahah :-D
[14:32] <kshadeslayer> happy now? :P
[14:32] <rbelem> hahahaah :-D
[14:33] <sheytan> rbelem yeah, this is a good idea.  A simple sharing kcm is a MUST! :D
[14:33] <apachelogger> kshadeslayer: much better
[14:33] <rbelem> much better now
[14:33] <apachelogger> kshadeslayer: you could also come up with something original
[14:33] <apachelogger> like sdfoi1
[14:33] <apachelogger> like our dictator
[14:33] <kshadeslayer> apachelogger: original?
[14:33] <kshadeslayer> who?
[14:33] <kshadeslayer> what
[14:33]  * apachelogger does to the day not remember his nick
[14:33] <kshadeslayer> also
[14:33] <kshadeslayer> plasma mobile on android is original
[14:33] <kshadeslayer> :>
[14:35] <rbelem> sheytan, we need to remove some items from that mockup, like cdrom share, and add bluetooth and webdav
[14:35] <sheytan> rbelem sure, what's webdav?
[14:36] <rbelem> sheytan, a fileshare via http
[14:36] <rbelem> sheytan, using apache or lighttp
[14:36] <afiestas> rbelem: sorry for the discordination :/
[14:36] <rbelem> afiestas, np :-D
[14:36] <sheytan> rbelem but please, please add "internet sharing"
[14:36] <sheytan> i will use this very often
[14:36] <rbelem> sheytan, internet sharing is possible only with connman
[14:37] <rbelem> afaik
[14:37] <sheytan> rbelem can't you write a daemon or something like this?
[14:37] <rbelem> sheytan, but maybe that could another kcm
[14:37] <sheytan> or jsut a GUI
[14:37] <sheytan> there must be a way to write a gui for internet sharing :P
[14:38] <rbelem> sheytan, we can work to add connman support
[14:38] <rbelem> sheytan, but that will time a little time :-)
[14:38] <rbelem> take
[14:38] <sheytan> rbelem please do :)
[14:38] <sheytan> without  a gui for that, it's useless for most users :P
[14:39] <rbelem> sheytan, that's true
[14:39] <rbelem> afiestas, bluedevil has support for bluetooth networking?
[14:41] <stalcup> pingaroo apachelogger
[14:41] <apachelogger> stalcup: ooragnip
[14:41] <stalcup> apachelogger: see pm please :)
[14:42] <kshadeslayer> what would be the extension of a .ssh file?
[14:43] <rbelem> afiestas, another question in advance :-) what bluetooth fileshare need in kcm fileshare?
[14:44] <rbelem> afiestas, one more, can we make kcm fileshare accept plugins?
[14:47] <apachelogger> Tm_T: ping
[14:48] <apachelogger> sheytan: ping
[14:48] <sheytan> apachelogger pong
[14:50] <afiestas> rbelem: BlueDevil should not been the responsable of stablish the connection, but NetworkManagement (or conman) is
[14:50] <afiestas> will is already working on that, so in theory we should be able to have something working for the next release of "kde networkmanagement"
[14:53] <rbelem> afiestas, are connman or networkmanager responsible for running org.bluez.NetworkServer?
[14:53] <afiestas> yes, all of these interfaces need a persistend process
[14:53] <rbelem> cool
[14:54] <afiestas> after discuss about that in the solid sprint, we decided that NetworkManagement was the responsable (and after seeing how nm-applet does it)
[14:54] <rbelem> afiestas, do you know if currently this feature already works?
[14:54] <afiestas> gare go (Kamoso hacking session with apol) brb
[14:55] <rbelem> :'(
[14:59] <rbelem> brb
[14:59] <Xand3r> here i am apachelogger
[14:59] <apachelogger> Xand3r: sheytan, sheytan: Xand3r
[15:00] <apachelogger> Xand3r: sheytan is my most favorite designer, who can help you make a thrilling UI
[15:00] <sheytan> Xand3r yo :D
[15:00] <apachelogger> sheytan: Xand3r wants to make kopete more lovely
[15:00] <apachelogger> Xand3r: I showed sheytan your mocks
[15:00] <Xand3r> what?
[15:00] <kshadeslayer> yayy
[15:00] <apachelogger> Xand3r: what what?
[15:00] <kshadeslayer> Xand3r: kopete is fugly :P
[15:00] <apachelogger> ack
[15:01] <sheytan> kshadeslayer http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4494/mmm3.png  http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/8695/mmm2.png what's so bad? :D (kool name btw) :D
[15:02] <apachelogger> sheytan: the bad thing there is that your chat window does not look like it belongs to the contact list at all :P
[15:02] <apachelogger> sheytan: whats the chat theme though
[15:02] <apachelogger> looks like I could like it too
[15:03] <apachelogger> in orange of course
[15:03] <kshadeslayer> haha
[15:03] <apachelogger> otherwise it looks odd in my youbunttoo :D :D
[15:03] <Xand3r> kk
[15:03] <kshadeslayer> apachelogger: what happened to your KDE? :O
[15:03] <kshadeslayer> why is all orange
[15:03] <kshadeslayer> +it
[15:03] <apachelogger> thrown away
[15:03] <sheytan> apachelogger it's one from Adium (os x messanger), it has lots of colors :D
[15:03] <apachelogger> lennart made me switch to gnome
[15:03] <apachelogger> sheytan: plz send
[15:03] <apachelogger> if it got organe I am all in love
[15:03] <Xand3r> so sheytan what i have to do?
[15:04] <sheytan> Xand3r: apachelogger said you want to bring kopete concact list and chat window into one window, right?
[15:04] <Xand3r> yes
[15:04] <sheytan> apachelogger http://www.adiumxtras.com/index.php?a=xtras&xtra_id=1385
[15:05]  * apachelogger notes that this should ultimately be optional as users are bound to go whining btw
[15:05] <apachelogger> sheytan: thx
[15:05] <sheytan> Xand3r for me it's a bad idea, cause this will take too much screen space. I like small stuff, but if you wish to make that, i can make some mockups for ya
[15:05] <apachelogger> Xand3r, sheytan: I want a workign prototype by may ;)
[15:05] <apachelogger> rock on
[15:05] <sheytan> apachelogger, Xand3r well, lets turn kopete into something liek adium :D
[15:06] <sheytan> with all themes support
[15:06] <Xand3r> sheytan: yea you can do that but what will i lern if you do the work
[15:06] <sheytan> Xand3r i cann only GIMP some images for you, am not a dev :)
[15:07] <Xand3r> you do that in gimp?
[15:07] <sheytan> or qtcreator :D
[15:07] <sheytan> http://adium.im/screenshots/
[15:08] <apachelogger> DO NOT TURN KOPETE INTO AN IDE!!!
[15:08] <apachelogger> I am serious
[15:08] <apachelogger> I will have to kill markey :P
[15:08] <Xand3r> IDE?
[15:08] <rbelem> hahaha
[15:09] <apachelogger> Xand3r: development ui thing
[15:09] <kshadeslayer> lol
[15:09] <apachelogger> like kdevelop
[15:09] <sheytan> apachelogger why markey? :D
[15:09] <ScottK> Quintasan: encoding the Python3 version in the .so name is by design.  It avoids needing separate installation directories for each version like we need with Pyhon(2).
[15:09] <apachelogger> sheytan: cause markey wants to murder me
[15:09] <sheytan> don't kill him, who will wirte amarok? :D
[15:09] <sheytan> ooh
[15:09] <ScottK> Quintasan: Pong, btw.
[15:09] <apachelogger> sheytan: Nightrose
[15:09] <kshadeslayer> is it possible that i regenrate my private publick key pair using my passphrase?
[15:09] <kshadeslayer> also
[15:09] <apachelogger> kshadeslayer: sure
[15:10] <sheytan> well, Xand3r and apachelogger: what i will do, are some mockups of how i would like to kopete looks like
[15:10] <kshadeslayer> how do i specify a custom host ... like shadeslayer@kubuntu instead of shadeslayer@saphira?
[15:10] <Xand3r> so sheytan make a mockup, i want to see something amazing
[15:10] <sheytan> Xand3r hopefully i'll start tomorrow :)
[15:10] <apachelogger> Xand3r: you make some code for the mockup and that too must be amazing :P
[15:10] <sheytan> a party in 3h today :D
[15:10] <apachelogger> awww
[15:11] <apachelogger> he has time to party
[15:11] <apachelogger> and I am stuck with stinky old gstreamer
[15:11] <apachelogger> meh
[15:11] <kshadeslayer> apachelogger: how :P
[15:11] <sheytan> apachelogger btw, why gstreamer?
[15:11] <sheytan> and not vlc
[15:11] <apachelogger> kshadeslayer: ask lord google
[15:11] <sheytan> or something
[15:11] <kshadeslayer> apachelogger: been at it for over an hour
[15:11] <apachelogger> sheytan: cause gstreamer is currently more broken
[15:11] <sheytan> google <3!
[15:11] <apachelogger> also the part that is broken in phonon's vlc I do not know stuff about
[15:11] <rbelem> sheytan, could you help me with samba fileshare property gui? :-)
[15:11] <sheytan> apachelogger so it's better to bring broken stuff into kubuntu? :D
[15:11] <apachelogger> so I would have ot read up first
[15:12] <apachelogger> sheytan: they are both broken right now
[15:12] <sheytan> rbelem already did one
[15:12] <rbelem> sheytan, i will send the .ui file to you
[15:12] <rbelem> sheytan, oh!
[15:12] <rbelem> sheytan, cool :-)
[15:12] <sheytan> rbelem, sure, but i will start tomorrow too :)
[15:12] <apachelogger> and I am not responsible for the breakage in either
[15:12] <apachelogger> which makes the whole thing more horrible
[15:12] <rbelem> sheytan, oki :-)
[15:12] <sheytan> apachelogger well, please don't make my kubuntu stop playing music, after i upgrade to 11.04 :D
[15:12]  * apachelogger is fixing the inability of others to a) read documentation and b) QA their shit
[15:13] <apachelogger> nah
[15:13] <apachelogger> it will just stop playing videos :P
[15:13] <sheytan> if you do, i come to Germany :D
[15:13] <apachelogger> good luck finding me in germany
[15:13] <sheytan> aren'tt you there? :D
[15:13] <Xand3r> nope
[15:13] <Xand3r> austria
[15:14] <Xand3r> i think
[15:14] <sheytan> not so far away :D
[15:14]  * apachelogger is hiding in markey's bed right now
[15:14] <apachelogger> so good luck finding me in austria :P
[15:14] <sheytan> apachelogger hopefully without markey? :D
[15:14] <Xand3r> than its swizerland
[15:15] <sheytan> my unkle is going to  swizerland next week :D
[15:15] <sheytan> I come with him :D
[15:15] <Xand3r> apachelogger: there is no escape
[15:16] <apachelogger> well
[15:16] <apachelogger> good luck with finding me in one of the cheese hole thingies
[15:16]  * sheytan evil laugh :D
[15:16] <apachelogger> there are a billion billion here in switzerland
[15:16] <apachelogger> muahahahah
[15:16] <ScottK> apachelogger: If it becomes clear your doom is inescapable, please make sure someone with a YouTube account is taking a video.
[15:16] <sheytan> apachelogger give me your IP and i'll tell you where and who you are :D
[15:16] <Xand3r> we can simply call markey and ask
[15:17] <markey> sheytan: is it OK that we resize your Splash a bit? it's HUGE
[15:17] <markey> on a netbook, it would take up the whole screen
[15:17] <rbelem> sheytan, if you need help i come from brazil
[15:17] <rbelem> :-D
[15:17] <sheytan> markey you mean the size or the file weight?
[15:17] <sheytan> rbelem sure :D
[15:17] <markey> size
[15:17] <markey> we have already reduced file size
[15:18] <ScottK> sheytan: He's somewhere cold and mountainous.  Unfortunately in Austria that doesn't narrow it down much.
[15:18] <markey> I want to make it 20% smaller, or so
[15:18] <sheytan> markey if you do, it will look bad :P
[15:18] <markey> with GIMP
[15:18] <markey> hm
[15:18] <markey> sheytan: can you do it?
[15:18] <markey> that would be nice
[15:18] <apachelogger> ScottK: I still have my spaceship
[15:18] <markey> not too small...
[15:18] <markey> just a bit
[15:18] <markey> 20% or so
[15:18] <rbelem> sheytan, it would be really nice stay poking apachelogger for all day long
[15:18] <sheytan> markey i would have to redo the whole image :P Btw, it's the same size as  all others splashes :P
[15:18] <markey> sheytan: send to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>please
[15:18] <markey> hmmm
[15:18] <markey> it looks larger...
[15:18] <markey> somehow
[15:19] <sheytan> it isn't :P
[15:19] <ScottK> apachelogger: Unless you start living in it, you still havet to get to it.
[15:19] <markey> I dunno, also the aspect ratio looks weird
[15:19] <markey> I'm not 100% happy with it
[15:19] <markey> <- perfectionist and annoying
[15:19] <markey> brb shower
[15:19] <apachelogger> no one shall fid me on omicron persi 8
[15:19] <apachelogger> that much is for sure
[15:19] <sheytan> markey i'll take care about that tomorrow :
[15:19] <sheytan> :)
[15:19] <markey> sheytan: ok cool :)
[15:19] <markey> sheytan: we plan to tag on Tuesday
[15:19] <markey> so, that should fit
[15:19] <apachelogger> ScottK: it is parked right next to the bad
[15:20] <apachelogger> *bed
[15:20] <sheytan> apachelogger if i wnat to find you, i'll do it ;D
[15:20] <apachelogger> I just need to hop in
[15:20] <sheytan> markey sure :)
[15:20] <Xand3r> sheytan: i see you dont work today if you do everything tomorrow
[15:20] <sheytan> Xand3r nope, today is my free time day :D
[15:20] <sheytan> and party time :D
[15:20] <apachelogger> I demand such a day too
[15:20]  * apachelogger writes a letter to the BBC
[15:21] <sheytan> i get tired on the party, so now i'm kinda collecting power :D
[15:21] <sheytan> loading my batteries :D
[15:22] <Xand3r> sheytan so you do the mockup. in this time apachelogger can give me a qt lesson, time has to be used
[15:22] <sheytan> Xand3r i need to be in a mood to GIMP :D
[15:22] <sheytan> it's not so easy
[15:22] <apachelogger> QObject *obj = new QObject;
[15:22] <apachelogger> done
[15:22] <sheytan> first i need to draw stuff on paper :)
[15:22] <apachelogger> all you need to know right there :P
[15:23] <ScottK> apachelogger: The next gcc update (in early Feb) will have support for Android as a platform, so shadeslayer will have another distraction.
[15:23] <apachelogger> oh
[15:23]  * apachelogger writes a letter to doko preventing that gcc from ever entering youbuntoo
[15:23] <sheytan> ScottK it's kshadeslayer now :D
[15:23] <ScottK> Is it?
[15:23] <rbelem> :-D
[15:23] <sheytan> yeah :D
[15:24] <ScottK> kshadeslayer: Don't you know the k* metaphor is worn and overused?
[15:24] <kshadeslayer> ScottK: yeah .. but people are having nick completion issues
[15:24] <apachelogger> not for function names it isnt
[15:24] <sheytan> ScottK he propably did it for apachelogger :D
[15:25] <apachelogger> no
[15:25] <apachelogger> for rbelem
[15:25] <kshadeslayer> apachelogger: Y U NOT TELL ME
[15:25] <ScottK> apachelogger: True, but that would imply kshadeslayer does something useful and I haven't noticed much of that lately, so I think it's not a relevant point.
[15:25] <rbelem> ahahahaha! :-D
[15:25] <kshadeslayer> how to recover the private key :P
[15:25] <apachelogger> ScottK: agreed
[15:26] <ScottK> kshadeslayer: Not possible.  You've got to have it.  That's the whole point.
[15:26] <kshadeslayer> :'(
[15:26]  * kshadeslayer goes back to fiddling with testdisk
[15:26] <kshadeslayer> also neon
[15:26] <Xand3r> sheytan: i know, but i am so excited, first time i will do some thing useful here in kde-land
[15:26] <apachelogger> one does not loose ones key!!!!
[15:26] <kshadeslayer> apachelogger: blame usb-creator-kde
[15:26] <apachelogger> one puts a copy on a 3 layered luks pendrive
[15:26] <ScottK> kshadeslayer: If public/private key cryptography worked backwords it wouldn't be of much use.
[15:26] <apachelogger> then puts that in a very secure box
[15:26] <kshadeslayer> aye
[15:27] <apachelogger> then deposits that at some bank in switzerland
[15:27] <sheytan> Xand3r i remember the time too :)
[15:27] <kshadeslayer> was just wondering if it was remotely possiblity
[15:27] <apachelogger> ultimtely in one of their underground bunker type thingies
[15:27] <ScottK> apachelogger: Not Switzerland.  It might get lost in all the holes.
[15:27] <kshadeslayer> ScottK: so ... do you need help with backports?
[15:27] <apachelogger> ScottK: but the number of holes is not infinit
[15:28] <ScottK> kshadeslayer: I need a MOTU or two who are interested enough to regularly review and approve/reject backports requests.
[15:28] <apachelogger> so one can recover it in O(n)
[15:28] <apachelogger> which is not that bad
[15:28] <ScottK> I suppose.
[15:28] <kshadeslayer> hmm
[15:28] <kshadeslayer> im not a MOTU yet
[15:28] <kshadeslayer> need to apply
[15:28] <rbelem> apachelogger, but it is almost like sand on the beaches
[15:28] <apachelogger> an intruder however would require O(n) + a cuple of other thingies
[15:28] <sheytan> ok, i'm going to take a shower too. And shave. It's time! :D
[15:29] <sheytan> brb
[15:29] <apachelogger> actually more like n by the powers of n or somesuch
[15:29] <rbelem> sheytan, have a good party
[15:29] <rbelem> sheytan, tomoroow i will ping you
[15:29] <apachelogger> as each hole contains a whole bunch of options where one could find the bunker type of thing
[15:29] <sheytan> rbelem thanks :) and ok :)
[15:29] <apachelogger> and if one found the bunker one still would need to find the deposit box thingy
[15:30] <apachelogger> all in all they probably were faster breaking the key than finding it ^^
[15:34] <kshadeslayer> 700 more cylinders to go :(
[15:34] <kshadeslayer> also
[15:34] <kshadeslayer> has anyone taken up PIM?
[15:34] <kshadeslayer> _Groo_ was doing it iirc
[15:35] <apachelogger> so we will never see it
[15:35] <apachelogger> kshadeslayer: please do the pimy
[15:35] <kshadeslayer> lol
[15:35] <kshadeslayer> apachelogger:sure ... just lemme create a pbuilder ... which is going to take ... 2 hours :S
[15:35] <apachelogger> you pour shade
[15:36]  * apachelogger throws stones after kio
[15:37] <kshadeslayer> apachelogger: can you have a look at customSendRequest in KIO_HTTP?
[15:37] <kshadeslayer> and advise how to tackle it
[15:38] <kshadeslayer> and aakshay hasnt been around too
[15:38] <kshadeslayer> :|
[15:38]  * kshadeslayer thinks generating a new ssh key and uploading it would be simpler
[15:38] <rbelem_> apachelogger, i need help with ksambashare dolphin plugin
[15:39]  * apachelogger needs help with kio :(
[15:39] <rbelem> apachelogger, me too :-(
[15:39] <kshadeslayer> maybe photorec can help
[15:39] <kshadeslayer> hmm
[15:43] <kshadeslayer> rbelem: oi ... no kubuntu-mobile package?
[15:43] <kshadeslayer> what would i need to start a plasma-mobile session>
[15:44] <apachelogger> plasma-mobile
[15:44] <rbelem> kshadeslayer, there is a kubuntu-mobile pkg, it pull plasma-mobile, kdebase-workspace-bin, kde-window-manage
[15:44] <rbelem> r
[15:44] <kshadeslayer> no there is no kubuntu-mobile
[15:45] <kshadeslayer> !find kubuntu-mobile
[15:45] <kshadeslayer> 0_O
[15:45] <rbelem> :-D
[15:45] <kshadeslayer> rbelem: natty?
[15:45] <kshadeslayer> !find kubuntu-mobile maverick
[15:45] <rbelem> kshadeslayer, both
[15:46] <Tm_T> apachelogger: pong
[15:46] <kshadeslayer> rbelem: apt-cache doesnt show it
[15:46] <rbelem> it is in main
[15:46] <kshadeslayer> E: Unable to locate package kubuntu-mobile
[15:46] <apachelogger> Tm_T: Xand3r wants to do love to kopete with help from sheytan, see backlog
[15:46] <rbelem> o.O
[15:46] <kshadeslayer> rbelem: ??
[15:47] <rbelem> kshadeslayer, which architecture?
[15:47] <kshadeslayer> rbelem: well ... id guess ARM
[15:47] <kshadeslayer> oh
[15:47] <kshadeslayer> OH
[15:47] <kshadeslayer> right ... im on amd64
[15:47] <kshadeslayer> so maybe thats why it doesnt have it
[15:47] <rbelem> kshadeslayer, are you using ports.ubuntu.com?
[15:47] <rbelem> kshadeslayer, :-D
[15:49] <Xand3r> apachelogger: why are you telling it everyone?
[15:49] <Tm_T> Xand3r: sounds interesting, you can poke devels in #kopete too if you need help, or kopete-devel ml
[15:49] <Tm_T> Xand3r: he's prolly telling me because I've been involved to Kopete development
[15:49] <apachelogger> Xand3r: so you get help
[15:50] <kshadeslayer> so ill be able to confirm whether or not plasma-mobile runs on a HTC desire in just a wee bit
[15:50] <Xand3r> apachelogger: thx now the kopete dev know a bout it before i realy know to program, thats nice -.-
[15:51] <rbelem> kshadeslayer, \o/
[15:51] <apachelogger> Xand3r: well, they know how to program, you want to help make kopete rock, I feel that there would be interesting in teaching you how to program ;)
[15:51] <kshadeslayer> rbelem: its just a chroot booted off android ^_^
[15:51] <kshadeslayer> but yeah ... we can run it :P
[15:52] <kshadeslayer> lets see
[15:52] <Xand3r> apachelogger: realy? i think they would be pissed of
[15:52] <rbelem> kshadeslayer, running natty?
[15:52] <kshadeslayer> rbelem: lucid chroot
[15:52] <rbelem> :-O
[15:52] <kshadeslayer> rbelem: http://code.google.com/p/android-cruft/wiki/LucidWithAndroid
[15:52] <apachelogger> Xand3r: I only know one developer who would be pissed off over help
[15:53] <apachelogger> and he is not working on kopete ;)
[15:53] <rbelem> kshadeslayer, will you upgrade to maverick?
[15:53] <kshadeslayer> rbelem: natty on my desktop or on the phone?
[15:53] <rbelem> kshadeslayer, phone
[15:53] <Xand3r> apachelogger: but i am no help, i am work
[15:53] <kshadeslayer> rbelem: yeah ... lucid ... will try and upgrade chroot to maverick/natty
[15:53] <rbelem> kshadeslayer, cool :-)
[15:54] <apachelogger> Xand3r: so is kshadeslayer, yet I put up with him
[15:54] <kshadeslayer> what
[15:54] <apachelogger> though is is rather unproductive for quite some time
[15:54] <apachelogger> ...
[15:54] <apachelogger> +he
[15:54] <kshadeslayer> apachelogger: ive started working!
[15:54] <rbelem> :-D
[15:54] <kshadeslayer> apachelogger: plasma-mobile on HTC Desire
[15:55] <kshadeslayer> searching where to insert http customSendRequest in kio
[15:55] <kshadeslayer> building a natty pbuilder
[15:55] <Tm_T> Xand3r: honestly I don't think there's any issue
[15:55] <apachelogger> inserting stuff into http does not sound like plasma-mobile
[15:55] <kshadeslayer> apachelogger: no .. thats different
[15:55] <kshadeslayer> thats kdewebkit
[15:55] <apachelogger> yah
[15:55] <apachelogger> sure "{
[15:55] <apachelogger> :P
[15:56] <rbelem> hahah :-D
[15:56] <kshadeslayer> 0_o
[15:56] <Xand3r> Tm_T: hmmm, i have to lern nearly everything
[15:56] <kshadeslayer> or kde4libs .. need to see which
[15:56]  * rbelem pokes apachelogger
[15:56] <apachelogger> stop poking me!~!!!GTehg
[15:56] <apachelogger> rbelem: whatsup?
[15:56]  * rbelem pokes apachelogger again
[15:57] <rbelem> apachelogger, it is nice poking you
[15:57] <apachelogger> stop poking me!!~
[15:57] <rbelem> :-D
[15:57] <Tm_T> Xand3r: that is no problem
[15:58] <Xand3r> Tm_T: ok :) so lets get started
[15:58] <Tm_T> Xand3r: seriously, Kopete development is halted so any help or interest is welcome
[15:58] <Xand3r> Tm_T: wich how to i have to read first?
[16:00] <sheytan> it's party time! :D Party angesagt! Dzisiaj impreeeza!  :D
[16:08] <Xand3r> shure he is:)
[16:08] <apachelogger> or maybe you just think that
[16:08] <apachelogger> because really I am austrian
[16:09] <Xand3r> and? they speak german
[16:09] <apachelogger> well, I dont
[16:09] <sheytan> autrian dialekt is bad, i don't like it :D
[16:09] <sheytan> prefer german :D
[16:09] <sheytan> once i had an austrian dude in my school on german lesson
[16:10] <sheytan> it's kinda different from german
[16:10] <Xand3r> its only ugly german
[16:20] <kshadeslayer> apachelogger: any upstream work available?
[16:21]  * kshadeslayer just mailed adawit with questions
[16:21] <kshadeslayer> omg omg omg natty chroot finished
[16:22] <Xand3r> Tm_T: look query, there i can ask embarissing questions
[16:32]  * apachelogger finds up a very sad movie
[16:33] <droidslayer> Lol
[16:33] <droidslayer> My laptop is dead
[16:33] <droidslayer> I can just move the mouse
[16:34] <droidslayer> S/dead/not responding
[16:36] <yofel> I had something else weird today - I could use the keyboard fine, I could move the mouse fine, but I couldn't click with the mouse anymore
[16:36]  * droidslayer reboots
[16:37] <droidslayer> yofel: I can move the mouse but no keyboard input
[16:37] <yofel> you could've killed X
[16:37] <droidslayer> Also.... happened when i was sending a mail with kmail
[16:38] <droidslayer> yofel: no keyboard input.... can't switch to tty
[16:38] <yofel> sysrq+k ?
[16:38] <droidslayer> yofel: didn't work... couldn't type anything
[16:39] <droidslayer> Just movement of mouse :-P
[16:39] <yofel> odd
[16:40] <kshadeslayer> yep
[16:41] <stalcup> dont forget to sign up for the meeting http://www.doodle.com/s6smg85bsvicnsn4
[16:41] <kshadeslayer> aye
[16:41] <kshadeslayer> stalcup: please mail to kubuntu-devel as well
[16:41] <stalcup> apachelogger: Riddell nixternal JontheEchidna  ^^
[16:42] <stalcup> will do kshadeslayer
[16:43] <ari-tczew> I'm affected by bug that NumLock doesn't start on boot up. do you know this issue?
[16:43] <ari-tczew> (is it enabled)
[16:45] <stalcup> ari-tczew: It's been tjat wau since Warty Worthog
[16:46] <kshadeslayer> ari-tczew: that can be changed iitc
[16:46] <kshadeslayer> *iirc
[16:46] <ari-tczew> stalcup: and not yet fixed? joke
[16:47] <kshadeslayer> ari-tczew: http://i.imgur.com/65eET.png
[16:47] <kshadeslayer> its in systemsettings > input devices
[16:47] <ari-tczew> Leave unchanged
[16:48] <ari-tczew> hmm
[16:48] <stalcup> ari-tczew: it is annoying as hell, maybe you could pay nixternal to fix it
[16:48] <kshadeslayer> omg
[16:48] <kshadeslayer> yayy
[16:48] <stalcup> j/k
[16:48] <kshadeslayer> bandwidth is back up again
[16:48] <kshadeslayer> now to start work
[16:48]  * kshadeslayer starts installing libqt4-dev and kdelibs5-dev
[16:49] <stalcup> kshadeslayer: is everyone supposed to prefix their name with a k, or is that just you?
[16:49] <kshadeslayer> :>
[16:49] <kshadeslayer> shows your KDE'ness :P
[16:50] <kshadeslayer> interesting .. engadget is broke on chromium
[16:50] <stalcup> ok then
[16:51] <kshadeslayer> lol ^^
[16:51] <kglibslayer> beat that :P
[16:56]  * sheytan goes out for a party :D
[16:56] <sheytan> bye all :)
[17:04] <kglibslayer> cya
[17:06] <Xand3r> how can i say cmake to ignor optional packages?
[17:08] <kglibslayer> Xand3r: it ignores them by default?
[17:08] <Xand3r> hmmm
[17:08] <kglibslayer> Xand3r: post your cmake output
[17:09] <Xand3r> doesnt matter now, i have another problem now, but thx
[17:09] <kglibslayer> ok :)
[17:10] <Xand3r> arg if you just want do do something quick it will take hours
[17:12] <Xand3r> i quit
[17:12] <Xand3r> c ya tomorrow
[17:13] <kglibslayer> cya
[17:49] <kshadeslayer> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+sshkeys << new ssh keys, please add to ktown .... lost my old keys :(
[17:57] <Riddell> hi all
[17:57] <Riddell> I'm stuck in London :(
[17:58] <Riddell> kshadeslayer: did you check behind the sofa?  if you lose something, it's nearly always there
[17:59] <Riddell> kshadeslayer: added
[18:01] <kshadeslayer> nope .. not there :(
[18:01] <kshadeslayer> Riddell: what happened? Snow? :P
[18:02] <neversfelde> vulcano?
[18:02] <kshadeslayer> yeah ... london is notorious for vulcano's :D
[18:03] <kshadeslayer> Riddell: where in london exactly?
[18:03] <neversfelde> Eyjafjallajökull was everywhere in europe ;)
[18:04]  * kshadeslayer cant even pronounce that
[18:04] <neversfelde> me too
[18:04] <kshadeslayer> who named it that!!!
[18:04] <neversfelde> the people from iceland I suppose
[18:04] <Riddell> kshadeslayer: yes, we had a centimetre of snow in Edinburgh and they shut down the airport
[18:05] <kshadeslayer> neversfelde: they ran out of names i suppose
[18:05] <kshadeslayer> Riddell: ah .. well ... the temps here are not good as well ... 2oC ...
[18:06]  * neversfelde flew to his family during holidays, every flight was 10 min early
[18:07] <kshadeslayer> i have too much lag for some reason
[18:07] <kshadeslayer> even tho ... my connection is far better now
[18:07] <Riddell> kshadeslayer: I seem to be in somewhere called Hackney
[18:08] <Riddell> it looks like much the rest of London, ugly and grey
[18:09] <JontheEchidna> ari-tczew: pong
[18:10] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: did you try to fix pbuilder?
[18:10] <kshadeslayer> heh
[18:10] <kshadeslayer> Riddell: some of my relatives live in MiddleSex
[18:10] <yofel> ari-tczew: what's up with pbuilder?
[18:10] <kshadeslayer> near Queensbury i think
[18:10] <kshadeslayer> its either Queensbury or Kingsbury ... cant remember
[18:10] <ari-tczew> yofel: JontheEchidna's pbuilder can't build my exim4 merge.
[18:11] <JontheEchidna> ari-tczew: still doesn't build after a pbuilder update
[18:11] <JontheEchidna> did you say you had natty ppa logs?
[18:11] <Riddell> kshadeslayer: there's no upper case S in Middlesex :)
[18:11] <kshadeslayer> ah
[18:11] <kshadeslayer> ok
[18:11] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: yes, on PPA builds fine
[18:11] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: also my pbuilder builds exim4 fine.
[18:11] <kshadeslayer> Riddell: ive been there like twice ... i remember the name, thats a big thing for me :P
[18:12] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: try recreate pbuilder natty again
[18:15] <kshadeslayer> ok so PIM
[18:15] <Riddell> did 4.5.5 get tested?
[18:16] <yofel> it got tested as in: no dpendency breaks and nothing obviously broken after update
[18:16] <kshadeslayer> Riddell: in updates?
[18:16] <kshadeslayer> i can ask
[18:16] <kshadeslayer> seems yes
[18:16] <kshadeslayer> all went fine :)
[18:17] <Riddell> needs an announcement then
[18:17] <Riddell> not by me I'm afraid, I'm not on my normal computer
[18:17] <kshadeslayer> define normal :P
[18:18] <Riddell> this one runs something called "Windows"
[18:19] <kshadeslayer> oh .... havent heard about that
[18:19] <kshadeslayer> is it as good as Kubuntu?
[18:20] <Riddell> not very user friendly, I press alt-F2 and nothing happens
[18:20] <kshadeslayer> Riddell: i know the feeling
[18:21] <yofel> indeed, doesn't support middle click paste either :(
[18:21]  * kshadeslayer tries to work with KMail
[18:23] <yofel> last time I tried kmail beta the akonadi background stuff almost killed my battery, ok well, maybe I shouldn't assume that closing something actually closes it
[18:23] <kshadeslayer> yofel: not using the beta
[18:23] <kshadeslayer> the stable release
[18:23] <yofel> that should work last time I tried it ^^
[18:24] <kshadeslayer> it does
[18:24] <kshadeslayer> but ... i cant seem to load my google contacts
[18:30] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: for future: you should use debuild -S -sa -vLASTVERSION so in exim4 case should be -v4.72-2ubuntu1
[18:30] <kshadeslayer> Riddell: by any chance, do you also have the power to sync ssh keys between i.k.o and git.kde.org?
[18:30] <Riddell> nope
[18:31] <kshadeslayer> :(
[18:40] <kshadeslayer> yofel: look what i found http://paste.kde.org/2014/
[18:40]  * kshadeslayer was crawling paste.kde.org
[18:42] <yofel> nice, I'll check later if I need something from there
[18:44] <kshadeslayer> yeah
[18:54] <kshadeslayer> weird ... i have freezes
[19:07] <Daskreech> yofel: What? how broken does it have to be to not support middle click paste?
[19:07] <Daskreech> the only reason that Macs don't support it cause the only button is the middle button
[19:08] <kshadeslayer> what the ....
[19:09] <kshadeslayer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/551878
[19:09] <kshadeslayer> yofel: ^^ ideas
[19:10] <kshadeslayer> like ... chmod +x debian/rules?
[19:10] <kshadeslayer> why are the rules not executable in the first place? 0_o
[19:12] <yofel> that's the only reason I can think of too... (rules isn't executable in any case, you need to make sure it is)
[19:14] <kshadeslayer> yofel: that doesnt work too o_o
[19:14] <yofel> O.O
[19:15] <kshadeslayer> more weirdness ... it builds in my home dir ... so possibly a issue with how my partition is mounted
[19:30] <stalcup> two releases and many hugs
[19:34] <kshadeslayer> :D
[19:34] <stalcup> boy, some people just hate skype
[19:34] <yofel> s/hugs/bugs/ :P
[19:34] <kubotu> yofel: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[19:35] <yofel> lol
[19:35] <stalcup> bwahahaha
[19:35] <kshadeslayer> omg kubotu
[19:35] <kshadeslayer> kubotu: cookies for everyone!
[19:36] <Daskreech> !cookies
[19:36] <yofel> ~order cookies
[19:36]  * kubotu slides a whole bunch of world's finest cookies down the bar to yofel.
[19:36] <yofel> :D
[19:36] <stalcup> ~vorian
[19:36] <kshadeslayer> ~order cookies for everyone
[19:36]  * kubotu is going to his secret storehouse to get cookies for everyone - might take some time.
[19:36]  * kubotu is back and slides cookies down the bar to everyone
[19:36] <yofel> ~karma launchpad
[19:36] <kubotu> karma for launchpad: -5
[19:37] <kshadeslayer> lol
[19:37] <yofel> only o.O
[19:37] <stalcup> ~stalcup
[19:37] <kshadeslayer> well
[19:37] <yofel> launchpad--
[19:37] <stalcup> :(
[19:37] <yofel> ~karma stalcup
[19:37] <kubotu> stalcup has neutral karma
[19:37] <kshadeslayer> rekonq is all sorts of broken in git :(
[19:37] <stalcup> yofel: try vorian
[19:37] <yofel> ~karma vorian
[19:37] <kubotu> karma for vorian: 5
[19:37] <stalcup> ~woot woot
[19:38] <yofel> heh
[19:38] <stalcup> ~karma yofel
[19:38] <kubotu> yofel has neutral karma
[19:38] <kshadeslayer> ~karma shadeslayer
[19:38] <kubotu> shadeslayer has neutral karma
[19:38] <stalcup> bwahahaha
[19:38] <stalcup> not ninjas long enough i see
[19:39] <stalcup> ~add karma yofel
[19:39] <yofel> I know I had +1 at some point, kubotu had db issues a while ago I think
[19:39] <kshadeslayer> i thought it went yofel++
[19:39] <stalcup> ~karma yofel 1
[19:39] <kubotu> incorrect usage, ask for help using 'kubotu: help karma'
[19:39] <kshadeslayer> yofel++
[19:39] <kshadeslayer> ~karma yofel
[19:39] <kubotu> karma for yofel: 2
[19:39] <kshadeslayer> see
[19:39] <yofel> :D
[19:40] <kshadeslayer> hey .. no free karma
[19:40] <stalcup> showoff
[19:40] <yofel> shadeslayer++
[19:40] <kshadeslayer> yofel--
[19:40] <kshadeslayer> oh
[19:40] <kshadeslayer> ok
[19:40] <kshadeslayer> yofel++ :P
[19:41] <stalcup> on this to-do task, what packaes besides the one listed need done Ensure we have latest KOffice, KDevelop, Amarok etc
[19:41] <stalcup> plus, I need to make a meta-plasmoids package
[19:41] <kshadeslayer> yofel: http://pastebin.com/42kbXhMn
[19:41] <yofel> someone should do new kpackagekit for 4.6
[19:41] <kshadeslayer> so much pbuilder weirdness
[19:41] <kshadeslayer> yeah
[19:41] <stalcup> yofel: good idear
[19:42] <kshadeslayer> Aptitude couldn't satisfy the build dependencies 0.o
[19:42] <stalcup> sudo pbuilder update
[19:42] <yofel> weirdness? you don't have kdepim-runtime >= 4.5.80
[19:43] <kshadeslayer> wheee ... i made kwin crash
[19:43] <kshadeslayer> just by alt+tabbing
[19:43] <yofel> ouch ^^
[19:43] <Daskreech> ~karma apachelogger
[19:43] <kubotu> karma for apachelogger: 11
[19:44] <kshadeslayer> our overlord
[19:44] <nigelb> shadeslayer--
[19:44] <nigelb> thou shalt not worry about karma.
[19:45] <Quintasan|Droid> ScottK: piiing
[19:45] <kshadeslayer> 0.o
[19:45] <kshadeslayer> nigelb: stop stealing my karma everywhere
[19:45] <Daskreech> thou shalt not buy Nestle products
[19:45] <kshadeslayer> first #h-i and now here :S
[19:45] <nigelb> kshadeslayer: I never stole karma
[19:45] <Quintasan|Droid> kshadeslayer: >implying you will ever reach cjwatsons karma
[19:45] <nigelb> false acusations
[19:45] <kshadeslayer> Quintasan|Droid: omg .... that guy is like ...
[19:46] <kshadeslayer> :O
[19:46] <nigelb> shadeslayer--
[19:46] <nigelb> :p
[19:46] <kshadeslayer> nigelb: well ... stop negating my karma then!
[19:46] <Quintasan|Droid> OVER 9000
[19:46] <kshadeslayer> nigelb--
[19:46] <kshadeslayer> Quintasan|Droid: err missed a few 0's
[19:46] <yofel> note: if you need karma do kde packaging, you'll get rosetta karma without doing anything...
[19:46] <kshadeslayer> i have over 9000 karma
[19:46] <kshadeslayer> yofel: i know right :D
[19:46] <nigelb> karma shadeslayer?
[19:46] <nigelb> erm
[19:47] <nigelb> ~karma shadeslayer
[19:47] <kubotu> karma for shadeslayer: -1
[19:47] <nigelb> hah
[19:47] <Quintasan|Droid> Over 9000 in internet slang means a whole lot more than you can imagine kshadeslayer
[19:47] <kshadeslayer> ~karma nigelb
[19:47] <kubotu> karma for nigelb: -1
[19:47] <yofel> shadeslayer++
[19:47] <kshadeslayer> same to you too :P
[19:47] <yofel> let the battle begin :P
[19:47] <kshadeslayer> yayy
[19:47]  * kshadeslayer hugs yofel
[19:47] <Quintasan|Droid> kshadeslayer: never watched Dragon Ball?
[19:47] <yofel> hm...
[19:48] <kshadeslayer> Quintasan|Droid: ohhh .. DBZ ref
[19:48] <yofel> ~karma bzr
[19:48] <kubotu> bzr has neutral karma
[19:48] <kshadeslayer> lol
[19:48] <yofel> ~karma bazaar
[19:48] <kubotu> bazaar has neutral karma
[19:48] <Quintasan|Droid> Bzr--
[19:48] <yofel> bzr--
[19:48] <kshadeslayer> bzr--------
[19:48] <Quintasan|Droid> Vazaar--
[19:48] <kshadeslayer> git++
[19:48] <Quintasan|Droid> Bazaar--
[19:48] <kshadeslayer> bzr--
[19:48] <yofel> bazaar--
[19:48] <Quintasan|Droid> Lol
[19:48] <yofel> ~karma bzr
[19:48] <kubotu> karma for bzr: -3
[19:48] <Quintasan|Droid> Let the bzr hate begin
[19:49] <kshadeslayer> mgraesslin: kwin is so sluggish i cant even alt+tab
[19:49] <Daskreech> ~karma Riddell
[19:49] <kubotu> karma for Riddell: 7
[19:49] <yofel> Riddell++
[19:49] <yofel> I've bugged him enough..
[19:50] <Daskreech> ~karma ubottu
[19:50] <kubotu> ubottu has neutral karma
[19:50] <kshadeslayer> Riddell++
[19:50] <Daskreech> ~karma kubotu
[19:50] <kubotu> kubotu has neutral karma
[19:50] <ulysses> ~karma ulysses
[19:50] <kubotu> ulysses has neutral karma
[19:50] <kshadeslayer> so
[19:51] <kshadeslayer> apparently my Dolphin + rekonq + qtcreator + konsole windows merged together
[19:51] <kshadeslayer> they look insanely kewl
[19:51] <kshadeslayer> http://i.imgur.com/9DSL3.png
[19:52] <kshadeslayer> yofel: ah and i thought we had kdepim-runtime in official natty archives :P
[19:53] <yofel> ah, nope, experimental only
[19:53] <kshadeslayer> right
[19:55] <Quintasan> oh God
[19:57]  * kshadeslayer starts debugging crash info first
[19:57] <Quintasan> ScottK's assistance would be great now, I need some serious help with this sip madness
[19:57] <Quintasan> yofel: I don't know how it is possible, but python-sip puts two identical files in two packages :D
[19:57] <kshadeslayer> 0_o
[19:58] <kshadeslayer> pyth0rn madness
[19:58] <kshadeslayer> no one can save you nao
[19:58] <Quintasan> where the hell is apachelogger?
[19:58] <yofel> I wonder if that's an improvement than putting same files for 2 different python versions into the same package..
[19:58] <Quintasan> yofel: it does that too
[19:59] <yofel> fooey
[19:59] <Quintasan> Magic
[20:13] <Quintasan> >Motorola XOOM
[20:13] <Quintasan> >implying I'm going to get a bootlocked tablet
[20:20] <kshadeslayer> lol
[20:20] <kshadeslayer> Quintasan: HTC++
[20:23] <kshadeslayer> kgnomelogger: would be nice to have a room like this http://www.flickr.com/photos/sabrinaeras/2287966461/
[20:40] <kshadeslayer> kronos: back? :>
[20:51] <kshadeslayer> yofel: Quintasan fun : http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/kdebindings-deps-colors.png
[20:51] <yofel> XD
[20:51] <yofel> that'll be fun..
[20:53] <Quintasan> u shitin me
[20:53]  * Quintasan is making kshadeslayer responsible for this
[20:53] <kshadeslayer> also
[20:53] <kshadeslayer> they moved stuff in svn
[20:54] <kshadeslayer> so quite possible its broken :P
[20:54] <Quintasan> ...
[20:54] <Quintasan> I already lost the motivation to do sip
[20:54] <Quintasan> and I have 5 tests this week and I'll be studying like madman tomorrow
[20:54] <Quintasan> well actually I was studying today too
[20:56] <yofel> I'll do bindings when they move to git, well, sometime in the future at least
[20:56] <Quintasan> kshadeslayer: <trollface>
[20:56] <kshadeslayer> damn you!!!! :O
[20:57] <kshadeslayer> yofel: you have no idea what Quintasan just did in #kde-devel
[20:57] <kshadeslayer> Quintasan: GRRRRRR
[20:57] <yofel> ROFL
[20:57] <Quintasan> Troll much
[20:59] <JontheEchidna> problem, packager?
[21:02] <kronos> kshadeslayer: was having a losing streak .. :(
[21:02] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: http://tinyurl.com/2bu9g5e <- kshadeslayer right now
[21:02] <kshadeslayer> hehe :P
[21:02] <yofel> lol
[21:02] <Quintasan> :DDD
[21:02] <kshadeslayer> it'll be fun :P
[21:02] <kshadeslayer> as long as i dont have to do it during exams
[21:14] <kshadeslayer> mgraesslin: http://paste.kde.org/2042/ <<
[21:14] <kshadeslayer> seems like its reported
[21:14] <kshadeslayer> ill add the debug info
[21:14] <mgraesslin> more important: what have you done to make it crash?
[21:14] <kshadeslayer> just alt+tab
[21:15] <kshadeslayer> like ... just alt+tab really fast ... it crashes randomnly
[21:15] <mgraesslin> well my kwin does not crash if I just alt+tab really fast
[21:15] <kshadeslayer> dunno ... its a pretty randomn crash if you ask me
[21:16] <mgraesslin> yes that's the problem with the crash
[21:16] <mgraesslin> we are missing a way to reproduce
[21:16] <mgraesslin> especially crah in operator== of QRect sounds strange
[21:17] <kshadeslayer> well i just added the backtrace to the original report
[21:17] <kshadeslayer> kde bug 253079
[21:18] <kshadeslayer> mgraesslin: whats the snapshot plugin for?
[21:18] <mgraesslin> it's a helper for ksnaphot to get better screenshots
[21:18] <kshadeslayer> ah ok
[21:18] <mgraesslin> it includes the shadow
[21:19] <yofel> mgraesslin: about Blur, is Blur supposed to blur the background behind transparent window borders?
[21:19] <kshadeslayer> ohk ....
[21:19] <mgraesslin> yofel: no
[21:19] <yofel> ah ok, any intent on ever supporting that?
[21:19] <mgraesslin> no
[21:19] <yofel> ok, thanks
[21:20] <yofel> kwin is still great ;)
[21:20] <mgraesslin> but if you use e.g. Oxygen translucency you get blur behind translucent windows
[21:20] <mgraesslin> but I do not recommend to use it
[21:22] <kshadeslayer> lol : Application: Run Command Interface (krunner), signal: Segmentation fault
[21:22] <kshadeslayer> thats it
[21:22] <kshadeslayer> the whole backtrace ^_^
[21:23] <kshadeslayer> heh ... looks like kdebindings failed :P
[21:24] <kshadeslayer> no ... it built!!! :O
[21:24] <yofel> yeah, but pretty contentless it seems..
[21:26] <kshadeslayer> aye ... just 2 so files
[21:27] <yofel> do an svn up, the layout changed completely
[21:27] <kshadeslayer> hehe
[21:27] <yofel> and they probably won't update cmake for bindings before git move
[21:27] <kshadeslayer> yep
[21:33] <Daskreech> kshadeslayer: I find that dropdown's crash KDE as well
[21:36] <kshadeslayer> Daskreech: dropdown's ?
[21:36] <Daskreech> yeah like umm typing in a dialog box and it does an autocomplete. Boooom
[21:37] <kshadeslayer> ah
[21:38] <kshadeslayer> dunno
[21:38] <kshadeslayer> havent seen that in any other app
[21:38] <kshadeslayer> Riddell: LP bug commenting via rekonq should be fixed with next KDE/kdewebkit release ... :)
[21:45] <Daskreech> kshadeslayer: Oh sorry missed it which app are we talking about? For me Rekonq causes a Full X crash most often
[21:46] <kshadeslayer> Daskreech: I was talking about krunner
[21:47] <Daskreech> Oh no that just freezes up on me.   Running KDE 4.6rc2 here.  Can anyone help me figure out why the configuration settings I've specified in my Keyboard Settings do not seem to get respected?  For example, I've turned Capslock into an additional control, but I don't see that behavior manifest after I click 'OK'...  btw, this problem has been in place for me since 4.6b1, and it is specific to this machine but affects all user accounts.