[19:12] <vinpan> when installing it stuck on device/dev/sdc on 47% and i let it sit for 30min and it stayed on 47%
[19:12] <sebsebseb> module000: I was going to highlight you just hen
[19:12] <sebsebseb> then
[19:12] <sebsebseb> ah nevermind, my message has messed up,  but should make enough sense I guess
[19:13] <module000> pattabi: chmod +x <filename> && ./<filename>
[19:13] <maitraya>  I want to contribute to grapics in ubuntu. How do I participate? Somebody please tell me ;-)
[19:13] <manowar3> maitraya, check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork
[19:13] <xhan> Ben64: thanks that worked. do you know of any sites with extensive mms listings?
[19:13] <sebsebseb> Hans_Henrik: Have you got a proper reason for the 64bit version?
[19:13] <maitraya>  I want to contribute to grapics in ubuntu. How do I participate?
[19:13] <Ben64> xhan: nope
[19:13] <ctmjr> !contribute
[19:14] <maitraya> thanx
[19:14] <jozefk> my microphon is not working. 9.10 32bit. Creative Labs CA0106 Soundblaster
[19:14] <snailface> I am having a terrible time trying to get nVidia drivers to work. :( My card is on the supported list, i followed the directions, i am using the reccomended proprietary driver but X still fails. :(
[19:14] <sebsebseb> Hans_Henrik:  module000  the 32bit version may not be the magical solution
[19:14] <Hans_Henrik> sebsebseb: umm.. i got 4 GB, should be problem?
[19:14] <snailface> I am using ubuntu 9.10l, btw.
[19:14] <jozefk>  http://pastebin.com/m4272bec
[19:15] <jozefk> rest of the details
[19:15] <sebsebseb> Hans_Henrik: if I remember correctly 32bit versions of OS's can't detect all of 4GB RAM
[19:15] <Om3Ddragon> how can I create a dvd with format mp4
[19:15] <jozefk> have a screenshot of my alsamixer if somebody need it
[19:15] <module000> sebsebseb: right now he's using the wrong architecture for his hardware - everything else is moot
[19:15] <pattabi> how to install root in ubuntu
[19:16] <sebsebseb> module000: what makes you think that, AMD64?  no that's correct for 64bit it's  AMD64,  because  AMD made 64bit, however that version of Ubuntu also runs on Intel
[19:16] <vinpan> should i install ubuntu first then attach the keyboard
[19:16] <jrib> !root | pattabi
[19:17] <Hans_Henrik> sebsebseb: i've read somewhere that recent versions of the linux kernel got full native support for PAE (some workaround for 32-bit and memory)
[19:17] <LizardK|ng> would it be better to transfer my wubi install to a new partition using LVPM or to reinstall from the CD to that partition?
[19:17] <sebsebseb> Hans_Henrik: what's PAE?
[19:18] <Hans_Henrik> sebsebseb: some workaround to use more memory on 32-bit architecture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[19:18] <apanda> how can i get the original 9.10 driver back for my ati 9600 after i discovered that envyng and the binary drivers dont work and after uninstalling these i only seem to have some kind of standard compatible driver, i've installed xserver-xorg-video-ati since then and dont know if i have to activate it or something
[19:18] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: good question, not sure, but  yes that's a great idea to have a real partition for Ubuntu
[19:18] <vonnick> LAWL
[19:18] <oCean_> !info linux-generic-pae
[19:18] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: oh I guess if you don't already have Ext4 for 9.10, well which version are you on?  then probably easier to just set up a new partition with that file system
[19:19] <Mainstay> apanda: I wished for that answer for a long time. Never found it. It would be useful to know though.
[19:19] <Some_Person> Why do I get a message on boot to enter the password for the default keyring for the network thingy?
[19:19] <apanda> lol? :(
[19:19] <vonnick> Some_Person: Try disabling auto login and restart
[19:19] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, LV{M will install GRUB when it's done; will it be intelligent enough to let me still boot windows, the wubi install of ubuntu, the real install of ubuntu, and the dell diagnostic partition?
[19:19] <Some_Person> vonnick: I want auto login
[19:20] <vonnick> Some_Person: It'll ask you if you wnt the password rememberd
[19:20] <LizardK|ng> LVPM
[19:20] <vonnick> Some_Person: But it won't do it if you have auto login enabled
[19:20] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, i'm using 9.04
[19:20] <Some_Person> vonnick: Any way around it?
[19:20] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: I have read about that  convert a Wubi install into a real install program,  but I have never used it myself
[19:20] <vonnick> Some_Person: Not that I know of :|
[19:20] <Machtin> Is thunderbird 3 not in the repos?
[19:20] <apanda> lol there has to be a way to get working drivers back for ati.. but i dont even really know where to start
[19:20] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, well, i guess i'll see.... it's transferring now
[19:20] <vonnick> Machtin: Nope
[19:20] <Machtin> I see.
[19:21] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: probably better to just set up your own partitions, plus then whilst your at it, you can do a seperate /home :) which can be useful for later on, if you have a reason to re install Ubuntu, or even if you want to distro hop.  Easier to set them up whilst installing Ubuntu, rather than afterwoulds.
[19:21] <bashca> hi there  i have  problem on 9.10   >>>  when  plug  my headphone suppose sound will not heard by speaker   >  now  i have  sound from both  of  them how  can  stop the speaker
[19:21] <Machtin> Can i somehow minimize thunderbird 3 to tray?
[19:21] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, a wee too late, as LVPM is finished; i'll see what happens when i reboot
[19:22] <apanda> ok lets start differently.. how can i see which graphics card driver im using?
[19:23] <mikobuntu> wolter : try command gnome-alsamixer
[19:23] <wolter> mikobuntu, doens't work either
[19:23] <sebsebseb> Hans_Henrik: maybe Ubuntu works bad on your hardware, but other distros will work better, by the way
[19:23] <oCean_> apanda: "lspci | grep -i vga" on commandline
[19:23] <wolter> mikobuntu, i mean, doesn't launch applet
[19:23] <apanda> ty, i'll try
[19:24] <sebsebseb> Hans_Henrik: also people tend to say that the 32bit version is more compatbile with stuff, than the 64bit version
[19:24] <freeride> please help, when command #sudo shutdown -h 15, a message always reminds me how much time left. How to turn it off??? Please
[19:25] <module000> freeride: you just want to surpress the message? but still shutdown in 15?
[19:25] <mikobuntu> wolter: yes i have read on ubuntuforums,what i think you have done, and it seems that most mixer gui will not work except for gnome-alsamixer... see here  >>>   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1229804&page=2
[19:25] <ratatosk> Help Spread this link to every IRC-network | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq2TBOHWFRc&feature=player_embedded
[19:25] <freeride> module000: yeah
[19:25] <skyl> do I need to do anything special to allow people to ssh with a dss key (as opposed to an rsa key)
[19:25] <module000> freeride: then use "sudo shutdown -h 15 > /dev/null
[19:26] <module000> freeride: appending "> /dev/null" will just re-direct whatever output it would produce to nowhere
[19:26] <LinuxCommunity> skyl: des?
[19:26] <freeride> module000 thanks, i understood, but this message appeares to in the terminal, but on my screen!
[19:27] <sebsebseb> Hans_Henrik: Even 2GB  of detected by Ubuntu RAM, is quite a bit more than what is needed,  unless people want to run more than one virtual machine at the same time, and well, or something.  Seems you went away from your computer or something,  so probably/maybe you read this stuff later.
[19:27] <freeride> module000 not in the terminal
[19:27] <skyl> LinuxCommunity, ssh-dss AAA...
[19:27] <snailface> Does anyone here possess a sagely knowledge of using nVidia drivers?
[19:27] <jrib> snailface: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[19:28] <LinuxCommunity> skyl: ahh, sorry i got vpn stuck in my head. cause my firewall allows options for well like triple des encryption and of course aes ect.. and it has ssh and all built in i just never herd of dss so
[19:28] <snailface> Okay. I am running Ubuntu 9.10 with a nVidia 7350LE (its on the supported list). I am using the proprietary driver ubuntu reccomended, but X fails when I boot.
[19:29] <jrib> snailface: you used "Hardware Drivers" to install them?
[19:29] <snailface> jrib: That's right.
[19:29] <bashca> hi there  i have  problem on 9.10   >>>  when  plug  my headphone suppose sound will not heard by speaker   >  now  i have  sound from both  of  them how  can  stop the speaker
[19:29] <jrib> snailface: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:29] <freeride> module000, have you got any more idea about the messege?
[19:29] <BluesKaj> snailface, the nvidia-glx-185 ?
[19:29] <pattabi> i am using lenovo y550 and it has 4gb ram but it uses only 3gb ,showing 1gb ignored?
[19:29] <snailface> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m2b35c1a1
[19:29] <maco> pattabi: running 32bit?
[19:29] <pattabi> yes
[19:30] <snailface> jrib: The ubuntu guide mentions that sometimes DVI gets messed up and provides a fix (a line to add to xorg.conf). It didn't do it for me.
[19:30] <maco> pattabi: install linux-image-generic-pae
[19:30] <jrib> snailface: pastebin the output of « lspci » and /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:30] <freeride> module000 it's called kde service messega, or smth like this
[19:30] <pattabi> how to install it?
[19:30] <snailface> jrib: xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/m50d92319
[19:30] <maco> pattabi: system -> administration -> synaptic
[19:30] <snailface> (generated from nvidia-xconfig)
[19:31] <apanda> lspci gives 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600] ... how do i know which driver that is?
[19:31] <snailface> jrib: lspci: http://pastebin.com/m3139af43
[19:31] <wastrel> hrm
[19:31] <module000> freeride: i'm not sure how to supress that one
[19:32] <jrib> snailface: lsmod | grep nvidia  show the module?
[19:32] <snailface> jrib: indeed it does
[19:32] <snailface> actually two
[19:32] <snailface> http://pastebin.com/m3139af43
[19:32] <snailface> woops
[19:32] <snailface> sorry
[19:32] <FloodBot4> snailface: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:32] <snailface> nvidia               9586440  0
[19:32] <snailface> agpgart                34988  2 nvidia,intel_agp
[19:33] <snailface> jrib: is one of those my on board video module?
[19:33] <lhoersten> I've got some friends trying to use emacs org-mode and it seems to have incorrectly defined default keys on Ubuntu. anyone have any idea why this is?
[19:33] <jrib> snailface: don't know
[19:33] <BluesKaj> apanda, open your package manager , and type ati , check to see what ati or fglrx driver is installed
[19:33] <freeride> module000 ok thanks anyway :)
[19:33] <oCean_> ratatosk: do not send spam to this channel
[19:34] <usuario333> alguno habla español?
[19:34] <oCean_> !es | usuario333
[19:34] <sprockets> anyone know where to get the libnl package at ?
[19:34] <khelvan> Hi, I'm having problems with gftp - it is getting stuck, for some reason, and I can't clear it from thinking that as soon as I load it it is connected to a server. So then when I try to connect to a new server it tries to get the current directory listing, and freezes on this: Loading directory listing / from server (LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8)
[19:34] <khelvan> How can I get it to stop this behavior?
[19:34] <usuario333> #ubuntu-es
[19:35] <apanda> if i search for "ati" in "software-center" then envyng and jockey-gtk come up
[19:35] <pattabi> when i loaded nvidia 190 driver im getting 6 screens? whats the  problem with the driver?
[19:35] <oCean_> !search libnl
[19:35] <snailface> jrib: should i try using a different driver?
[19:35] <jrib> snailface: can you check if the same thing happens with: http://pastebin.com/f63e606a3 ?
[19:35] <trism> sprockets: libnl-dev perhaps
[19:36] <oCean_> sprockets: there's a package "libnl1" though
[19:36] <oCean_> !info libnl1
[19:36] <snailface> jrib: sure thing. thanks. :) i'll try it
[19:36] <LizardK|ng> well, grub was looking on hd (2,2) and couldn't find my new install.  i think  it should have been looking on (3,2) (/dev/sdc2)
[19:36] <nasrullah1> all
[19:36] <nasrullah1> hi
[19:36] <jrib> snailface: (I notice it doesn't have the glx module being loaded)
[19:37] <sprockets> tanks
[19:37] <nasrullah1> i want to know where i can get a nice xubuntu blog
[19:37] <laumonier> plz i need help someone knows how to play game in full screen with wine????i try to remove the virtual desktop but when i launch my games it doesnt work
[19:37] <LizardK|ng> if i plan to split my 150GB disk into 8GB swap and the remaining 142GB into / and /home, what would be good sizes to use and does the order of the partitions ,atter?
[19:38] <sprockets> worked like a charm witht he dev package thanks
[19:38] <oCean_> nasrullah1: non-technical issues/discussions in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[19:38] <M1TE5H> how 2 start x server from console virtual console I am use startx but it does not work can tell me how to configure it
[19:38] <antonis-froska> hello
[19:38] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, any advice for me?
[19:39] <nasrullah1> ok
[19:39] <jrib> M1TE5H: create a ~/.xinitrc ...
[19:39] <M1TE5H> ok then
[19:39] <nasrullah1> how to install google earth in xubuntu?
[19:39] <Pipi772> Hello!!
[19:40] <jrib> !mediubuntu | nasrullah1
[19:40] <bluespuke> how can i get the input sound from my microphone to the speakers??
[19:40] <Pipi772> im having problems executing /etc/rc.local
[19:40] <jrib> !medibuntu | nasrullah1
[19:40] <OttifantSir1> Can someone help me get my mic working? When I try to set the preferences for webcam, speakers and mic in aMSN, it always gets stuck at the mic. It freezes. I have no problems recording sound with Sound Recorder. Could it be because I installed aMSN 0.98 from an autopackage, and the configs don't match?
[19:40] <jrib> Pipi772: why are you trying to execute it?
[19:40] <nasrullah1> thank you
[19:40] <M1TE5H> how 2 start x server from console virtual console I am use startx but it does not work can tell me how to configure it
[19:41] <Pipi772> jrib i mean, i added some lines to rc.local, xinit tsclient
[19:41] <LinuxCommunity> ..
[19:41] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: How much RAM do you have?
[19:41] <jrib> M1TE5H: I just told you how... what exactly are you trying to do?  What exactly did you do?  What exactly happened as a result that you didn't expect?
[19:41] <Pipi772> jrib i removed gnome and i want to start automaitc tsclient
[19:41] <jrib> Pipi772: you added them before "exit 0"?
[19:41] <Pipi772> jrib yes before exit 0
[19:42] <M1TE5H> im give following commands touch ~/.xinitrc
[19:42] <ubuntu> hi, how can i recover my ubuntu install after installing windows to a secondary partition on the same drive
[19:42] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, i know 8 GB swap is overkill; i have 1.2 GB in this machine
[19:42] <jrib> M1TE5H: creating empty files doesn't usually do much
[19:42] <Pipi772> jrib, xinit loads fine, but tsclient doesnt
[19:42] <jrib> Pipi772: redirect stdout and stderr to a file somewhere and see what went worng
[19:42] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: ok 2GB SWAP then, that should do it
[19:43] <jrib> Pipi772: isn't tsclient some graphical app?
[19:43] <l337ingDisorder> Is there a way to tell SSH to bail out if it can't create a connection within x seconds? (ie, a timeout on creating new connection, not a timeout on pre-established connection)
[19:43] <M1TE5H> so how to add content n what contest
[19:43] <Pipi772> jrib, ok, i dont know stdout and stderr, i´ll google it
[19:43] <jrib> M1TE5H: I asked you 3 questions, you didn't answer any.  I can't help you if I don't know what you are doing
[19:43] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: 2.5GB SWAP if you realy want.  the double your RAM  and make that your SWAP space thing, applys to you
[19:43] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, i was more concerned about splitting the rest between / and /home and the layout of the partitions
[19:43] <countingteeth> anyone having issues with contacting za.archive.ubuntu.com on SAIX adsl ?
[19:43] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: 10GB or so for /
[19:43] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: the rest big seperate /home
[19:43] <rip> Hello, does latest Ubuntu installer (Karmic) offer "encrypt system" option similar to Fedora and OpenSUSE?
[19:44] <jrib> Pipi772: why aren't you just using gdm to log you in automatically and then running tsclient on login for the user?
[19:44] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: yep don't need much for / with seperate /home
[19:44] <M1TE5H> hi there I just want to start X from console 2 swith virtual 2 graphics mode
[19:44] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, won't any packages i install end up on /, being in /bin or /usr/bin
[19:44] <ubuntu> hi, how can i recover my ubuntu install after installing windows to a secondary partition on the same drive
[19:44] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: yes those will be in the partition that is your / partition
[19:44] <jrib> M1TE5H: and... what happens exactly when you run « startx » now?
[19:44] <jrib> !who | M1TE5H
[19:45] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: you don't need seperate /bin  or /usr/bin or not normalley anyway
[19:45] <jrib> !grub | ubottu
[19:45] <jrib> !grub | ubuntu
[19:45] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: some people do 8GB for / even and with  /usr and such as part of it
[19:45] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, i guess i could resize the partitions if needed?
[19:45] <apanda> i have xserver-xorg-video-ati				install ed according to dpkg... but it doesnt seem to work well with my 9600, it doesnt detect my monitor and has no hardware accelearation etc it seems... is that the default driver 9.10 had installed after i destroyed it?
[19:46] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: I would do 10 to 12GB for /  if I have a big seperate /home
[19:46] <Pipi772> jrib, because this configuration is for a few machines, and have poor hard
[19:46] <jrib> Pipi772: what?
[19:46] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: and never needed to resize such a set up before
[19:46] <M1TE5H> !jrib Fetal Server error
[19:46] <duncanidaho> I can only scan using Sudo, any ideas how to enable another user to access the scanner?
[19:46] <OttifantSir1> Can someone help me get my mic working? When I try to set the preferences for webcam, speakers and mic in aMSN, it always gets stuck at the mic. It freezes. I have no problems recording sound with Sound Recorder. Could it be because I installed aMSN 0.98 from an autopackage, and the configs don't match?
[19:47] <kermit> why does apt-get source give me an older version than apt-get install??
[19:47] <M1TE5H> !M1TE5H hi
[19:47] <jrib> M1TE5H: you don't use the "!", just "jrib:"
[19:47] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, and how about layout? swap at the beginning on sdc1, then / on sdc2 in the middle, then /home on sdc3 at the end?
[19:47] <M1TE5H> ok
[19:47] <Pipi772> jrib, i need to use tsclient with 5 pc, it doesnt have enough memory!
[19:47] <Pipi772> so i removed gnome
[19:47] <jrib> Pipi772: I don't see what that has to do with what I said?
[19:47] <jrib> Pipi772: I didn't say to use gnome
[19:48] <module000> duncanidaho: what type of scan
[19:48] <Pipi772> sry jrib, what did you mean?
[19:48] <Pipi772> what can i use instead rc.local?
[19:48] <M1TE5H> jrib so how to correct the Fetal server error
[19:48] <jrib> Pipi772: you can still use gdm and login to whatever session you want
[19:48] <l337ingDisorder> Is there a way to tell SSH to bail out if it can't create a connection within x seconds? (ie, a timeout on creating new connection, not a timeout on pre-established connection)
[19:48] <jrib> Pipi772: or xdm or kdm or whatever
[19:49] <duncanidaho> BROTHER MFC 440CN connected by USB
[19:49] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: other computer at the moment is  9.04 in a 15GB / partition with /home and all that as part of it. Quite a lot of games from the repo and such installed in to it,  no SWAP space,  not needed not going to hibernate or anything like that and it's 2GB RAM.  even with 1GB  that would be the case.  anyway and it's got like 6GB free space  in the / partition which also has /home in it and hardly anything in it.  Linux programs don't take up
[19:49] <sebsebseb> that much space.
[19:49] <snailface> jrib: x failed in the same way.  The keyboard entry is spotty and I am forced to reboot into recovery mode, delete xorg.conf, and startx.
[19:49] <Pipi772> jrib, i comment start ... on gdm.conf..
[19:49] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: ok so this is not a dual boot, Ubuntu only or?
[19:49] <jrib> Pipi772: ok?
[19:49] <freeride> !dbus
[19:49] <theCube> how would i be able to disable the IEEE 802.1x authentication for wireless in Ubuntu 9.10. i know how for windows but not sure how it is done for Ubuntu.
[19:50] <M1TE5H> M1TE5H: Hello
[19:50] <jrib> snailface: don't know then.  Checked for bugs at bugs.ubuntu.com?
[19:50] <snailface> no. i'll look.
[19:50] <Pipi772> well. how do i launch tsclient from the gnome login ??
[19:50] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, dual boot, but windows is on a separate HD
[19:50] <jrib> Pipi772: you don't have to use gnome, but if you do you can use System -> Administration -> Login Window
[19:51] <Pipi772> nono, i dont use gnome
[19:51] <Pipi772> from the console..
[19:51] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: ok well in that case really you want / to be the first partition on there I think, altough where partitions are doesn't matter that much if at all really, as far as I know
[19:51] <jrib> Pipi772: make up your mind?
[19:51] <duncanidaho>  module000: BROTHER MFC 440 CN through USB
[19:51] <bluespuke> damn, noone can tell me how to put the microphone on the speakers??
[19:51] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: then /home as partition 2  and  SWAP last
[19:51] <rip> Hello, does the latest Ubuntu installer (Karmic) offer "encrypt system" option similar to Fedora and OpenSUSE?
[19:51] <bluespuke> this shouldn't be that difficult!
[19:52] <OerHeks> rip yes
[19:52] <LizardK|ng> okie :)
[19:52] <jrib> Pipi772: whatever window manager you want, run it and read its documentation on how to start programs on login.  At gdm, if you click Options, you can select your window manager.  Alternatively, create your own xsession
[19:52] <module000> duncanidaho: that's common according to some threads i'm reading...the workaround is to change udev's rules to create a device node with user-accessible permissiosn instead of the default perms of 600 for your scanner
[19:52] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: what you might find though is that the manual installer or gparted,  doesn't want to set things up quite like that, for example wanting SWAP as the second partition or something.  or maybe for some reason you need to make an extended partition even
[19:52] <jrib> rip: run it and see :P  I can't remember if it allows the whole system or just home
[19:52] <Pipi772> jrib, i dont want a window a manager! im on xinit
[19:52] <freeride> !kde
[19:52] <jrib> Pipi772: then write your own xsession.
[19:52] <module000> duncanidaho: look at http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/udev-and-scanner-only-as-root-since-upgrade-to-current-594071/?highlight=usb+scanner
[19:53] <LizardK|ng> maybe i'll just boot with the CD and let it do its thing
[19:53] <Pipi772> jrib where do i write my own xsession?
[19:53] <M1TE5H> !ops
[19:53] <module000> duncanidaho: ubuntu's default udev rules seem to suffer the same ocnfiguration
[19:53] <rip> OerHeks: so, is it like a check box, during install, something like "encrypt disk"?
[19:53] <jrib> M1TE5H: why did you call !ops?
[19:53] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, i'll just boot with the CD and let it do its thing
[19:53] <jrib> Pipi772: one place is ~/.xsession
[19:53] <Amaranth> M1TE5H: ?
[19:53] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: that reminds me,  I like setting things up in gparted first and finnishing off in manual install, but you can do it all in manual install.  You need to tell manual install which partition is going to be your / and  which is going to be your /home,  you need to set the mount point.  I also do a tick for format, even though they are new partitions.
[19:53] <Pipi772> jrib thanks, ill try
[19:53] <duncanidaho> module000: how do I change the permissions
[19:54] <M1TE5H> I don't know what happen with ! ops
[19:54] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: oh uhmm  I just explained how to do a manual install :)
[19:54] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: useing the CD
[19:54] <module000> duncanidaho: read the link - you need to edit the 90-local.rules file
[19:54] <OerHeks> rip yes, you need to say no explicite, if you do not want to
[19:54] <jrib> M1TE5H: please don't use it again unless there is an emergency
[19:54] <student_> ;;;lk
[19:54] <M1TE5H> what means of ! ops commands
[19:54] <M1TE5H> please tell me
[19:54] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: if you do the guided install on the CD, you won't get a seperate /home
[19:54] <Hillshum> M1TE5H: It calls all the channels opers
[19:55] <M1TE5H> ok
[19:55] <M1TE5H> thanks
[19:55] <judgen> anyone know of a gtk frontend to dgen and fceu?
[19:55] <rip> OerHeks: ok.  do you know how encryption is implemented - is it via luks dm-crypt (like Fedora)?
[19:55] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, will grub be smart and find Windows and the Dell Utility partition?
[19:56] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: I am not sure if it matters, but I have a feeling that maybe Windows will want to be on your primary hard disk, the first one
[19:56] <OerHeks> rip https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto
[19:56] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, it is
[19:56] <judgen> preferable with game genie support
[19:56] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: ok
[19:56] <mlissner> This is silly, but does anybody know the name of the program that starts when you right click a file in nautilus and select "Open With"? Or how to figure it out?
[19:56] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: as for the Dell  Utility partition uhmm what's that, a hidden partition or what?
[19:56] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: hidden partition, since they didn't give you a CD/DVD so you could re install Windows?
[19:58] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: or some drivers and such for the Windows install?
[19:58] <OerHeks> rip yes, dm-crypt is supported
[19:58] <gui_> ello
[19:59] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: if that partition is meant to be booted from, well sure Grub should find it, and have it there as an option in the boot loader, well maybe not, depending on what it is, but then you could add yourself
[19:59] <gui_> anyoen have any suggestions for burning .avi's to a DVD? i've got a bunch of .avi's that id liek to burn to dvd, id just need to create a simpel menu etc - this is to play in a home dvd player
[19:59]  * Irakirashia is away: pijaymerca~
[19:59] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, no, its a tiny 32 MB FAT16 partition that has tools for running diagnostics.
[19:59] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, though its really only useful when you need warranty work and i'm pretty sure the computer is out of warranty
[19:59] <gui_> would devede be the best options?
[19:59] <jrib> !away > Irakirashia
[19:59] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, though its really only useful when you need warranty work and i'm pretty sure the computer is out of warranty
[19:59] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: ok well that will stay there
[19:59] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: unless you delete it
[20:00] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, its sda1, windows is sda2 and ubuntu will be sdc
[20:00] <resno> is there a way to go from desktop to server install?
[20:00] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: gparted is nice, when doing partition stuff, it does a simulation to show what it will do, before you decide to apply it or not
[20:00] <Crewsr3> I just installed PDFedit using method 2 from   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PDFedit     and it worked, but now I cannot get the program to lanuch.  I know itstalled because I check synaptic
[20:00] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: so it's not that easy to go wrong with it
[20:00] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, yup, using it now
[20:01] <freeride> how to turn off message window "message from root@desktop (dev/pts/1) at 21:59 The system is going down for halt in 50 min"  after command shutdown -h 50
[20:01] <erUSUL> resno: install the server software you want and the server kernel. remove whatever you do not need from the desktop install
[20:01] <darthanubis> Mark Shuttleworth has just announced this morning via a blog post that he will be stepping down as the CEO of Canonical, the formal company behind Ubuntu Linux
[20:01] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: ok don't put a label for the partitions, put in the size in MB.  10 x 1024 =  that's your answer for  /
[20:01] <Catalin_> hello I need some urgent help
[20:01] <Flannel> resno: Linux makes no differentiation between "Server" and "Desktop" installs, they're just programs that run.  So, you can install your server things, and (optionally) turn off/remove your GUI things, and you'll be set
[20:01] <darthanubis> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/295
[20:01] <Flannel> darthanubis: #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[20:01] <Irakirashia> Sorry for that.
[20:02] <OerHeks> resno, open terminal > sudo tasksel
[20:02] <sebsebseb> darthanubis: I found out a little while ago,  I got two articles to read on that,  but  helping LizardK|ng  and yes Flannel  is right it's off topic
[20:02] <freeride> how to turn off KDE message window "message from root@desktop (dev/pts/1) at 21:59 The system is going down for halt in 50 min"  after command shutdown -h 50
[20:02] <Catalin_> how can I find and replace a malicious code from all my .php files ?
[20:02] <darthanubis> Flannel, per the topic in this channel it is not really all that OT is it?
[20:02] <jrib> Catalin_: sed
[20:02] <sebsebseb> darthanubis: it's not Ubuntu support, so off topic
[20:02] <erUSUL> Catalin_: with sed or ed
[20:02] <nonexks> is there a command line i can type in to get xubuntu to force boot from live cd
[20:02] <Catalin_> I am a bigg noob
[20:02] <Flannel> darthanubis: Yes, it is.  That's not Ubuntu support.  Non-support Ubuntu discussions belong in #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks again for understanding.
[20:03] <Catalin_> could you give me the code in private ?
[20:03] <resno> OerHeks: never knew that existed!
[20:03] <jrib> Catalin_: you shouldn't run sed on large batches of file unless you know what you are doing
[20:03] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: ok made your / yet?
[20:03] <OerHeks> resno have fun
[20:03] <resno> OerHeks: learn something new everyday!
[20:04] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, i made all three, but you said / should be first and not swap?
[20:04] <OerHeks> resno me 2 UBUNTU !
[20:04] <sprockets> what is the best dock for ubuntu,
[20:04] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: you end up doing some stuff twice basically if you use gparted first, but  that's ok
[20:04] <Flannel> sprockets: A lot of people like AWN
[20:04] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: I said it probably doesn't really matter, but you probably want SWAP at the end ideally
[20:04] <darthanubis> !best > sprockets
[20:04] <jrib> Catalin_: you need to learn about sed and find.  Find some examples and understand them.
[20:04] <apanda> btw i have sorted my problem with the ati driver.. if anyone cares, something, probably envyng had put this into my xorg.conf : http://pastebin.com/d3147711c
[20:04] <Hillshum> sprockets: GNOME-Do's docky theme is another possibility
[20:05] <Catalin_> ok thx
[20:05] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: go with the Ext4 file system :)
[20:05] <nonexks> i cant get my xubuntu to load live cd so i can erase the system and install something else
[20:05] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, i think i want to stick with ext3 for now.  why shouldn't i put in a label?
[20:05] <Catalin_> jrib if I give you the code that I need to remove can you give me the exact command ?
[20:06] <raul_> how can I copy songs from a CD to my computer in MP3 format?
[20:06] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: ,because a label is not needed, and stick with Ext3 why?
[20:06] <kermit> raul_: sound juicer
[20:06] <raul_> kermit thanks
[20:06] <nonexks> raul_: Grip
[20:06] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: you can do a label if you really want sure, but I woudn't
[20:06] <jeansch> raul_, soundjuicer but i suggest you to considere the ogg formet
[20:06] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, i was reading ext4 still isn;t fully stable and sometimes data is lost when it crashes
[20:06] <jrib> Catalin_: create some test files so you can experiment.  Here is how to delete "FOO" in a file named FILE:  sed -i 's/FOO//g' FILE
[20:06] <raul_> which one is much better? Grip or sound juicer?
[20:07] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: oh right that ok
[20:07] <jeansch> raul_, sj is easyer and more integreated
[20:07] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: yes I read something like that myself hmm
[20:07] <Catalin_> ok thx
[20:07] <oCean_> Catalin_: quick hint: find /startdirectory -name "*.php" | xargs grep -i <string>
[20:07] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: 9.04 I had no issues with Ext4, even though that's a version where issues with Ext4 are more likely than with 9.10
[20:08] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: you should be backing up data else where anyway, hard disks can just fail
[20:08] <oCean_> Catalin_: that'll search every *.php file found for <string>
[20:08] <synx> During bootup of the liveCD, after loading the kernel the CD drive spins down and stops, and the booting process practically crawls to a halt. What was it that caused that again? I had this problem a few years back...
[20:08] <OttifantSir1> Can someone help me get my mic working? When I try to set the preferences for webcam, speakers and mic in aMSN, it always gets stuck at the mic. It freezes. I have no problems recording sound with Sound Recorder. Could it be because I installed aMSN 0.98 from an autopackage, and the configs don't match?
[20:08] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: if your a bit worried though about losing data from the computer,  well that's ok to do /home in Ext3,  but you should still do / in Ext4 really
[20:08] <raul_> jeansch thanks
[20:08] <doddo> Hello! the EDITOR and VISUAL variables seems to be ignored i keep getting nano as default editor, why is this?
[20:08] <synx> some sort of "make the CD drive more random access" mode that fails for cheap drives...
[20:08] <Catalin_> ocean_: and how do I automaticly remove the <string>
[20:09] <jrib> doddo: default editor where?
[20:09] <doddo> jrib: everywhere
[20:09] <plustax> Hey guys. I'm trying to use GTK RECORDMYDESKTOP and I get the following error. Can anyone help?  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2066611/Screenshot.png
[20:09] <jrib> doddo: that shouldn't be the case, but try: update-alternatives --config editor   (this is system wide)
[20:09] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, what advantage does ext4 have over 2?
[20:09] <oCean_> Catalin_: like jrib told. You have to read up on the various commands and compose the complete command so that'll fit your needs
[20:09] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: / in 9.04 really does speed bot up, shut down, and automatic disk checking up,  I did a test Ext3 and Ext4 in 9.10,  didn't seem to make a difference,  I have a feeling that it might make quite a difference though for 10.04 the next one.
[20:10] <apanda> why does xchat not have a nicklist by default? can i get one easily? :)
[20:10] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: well the automatic disk checking in 9.10 will be faster of course I expect, but I didn't test that.
[20:10] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb,  gparted just gave e an error that the kernel couldn;t reload the partition table
[20:10] <zmotok> hello, I know this isn't a particularly ubuntuish question but.. does anyone know of a printable image showing the most well known OSS software (name+logo or such) like ubuntu, openoffice, gimp, dia, staruml, etc?
[20:10] <doddo> jrib: hmm why do I need to do that one ? This one should work for example: EDITOR=vim sudo visudo
[20:10] <synx> doddo: have you checked /etc/alternatives/? update-alternatives --list editor should be of assistance.
[20:10] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: it's a blank hard disk yes?
[20:11] <jrib> doddo: erm, by "everywhere" did you mean "everywhere with sudo"?  sudo is picky about environment variables :)
[20:11] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, now it is, yes :)
[20:11] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: ok you need to make a new partition table then
[20:11] <nonexks> how do i take xubuntu off of a computer
[20:11] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: the partitions have to go some where
[20:11] <doddo> jrib: nah not only sudo but also programs liek the editor CVS chooses per default
[20:11] <popey> plustax: looks like your sound settings to me
[20:12] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, it made / but didn;t format it so it's formatting now and will then create /home and swap
[20:12] <popey> plustax: what do  you have on the sound tab in advanced settings?
[20:12] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: / in Ext4 ?   Ext3 for /home ?
[20:12] <nonexks> !uninstall
[20:12] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, yup
[20:12] <RichardG|CC> # Appears as LANCE
[20:12] <nonexks> !uninstall xubuntu
[20:12] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: ok
[20:12] <leoncismeck> Whats the recommended size of swap these days?
[20:12] <plustax> popey: these are my sound settings  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2066611/Screenshot.png
[20:13] <nonexks> !xubuntu
[20:13] <leoncismeck> !swap | leoncismeck
[20:13] <LizardK|ng> leoncismeck, less than 8 GB, i was laughed at when i said i was going to make mine that
[20:13] <leoncismeck> sorry LizardK|ng, I lol'd too
[20:13] <jrib> doddo: cvs should work, how are you calling it?
[20:13] <popey> plustax: switch off 'use jack' and change device to 'hw:0,0'
[20:13] <doddo> synx: =) Im not used o having to go through al these steps just to choose a default editor for my user...
[20:14] <neo_> hy.
[20:14] <cdocbo> ok guys, back again trying to get my digital tablet working.  (9.10 broke it, worked great in 9.04)  Tablet is seen (dmesg), and can move the cursor in X, but cannot click anything.  Followed a few guides without any success.
[20:14] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: another idea could be this,  make an extra data partition,  in Ext4, that you could then just use later on as a Ext4 /home   and then you can re size that one after deleting the Ext3 or something.  However it seems when it comes to data the file systems don't really matter that much,  as long as you don't get data loss from them of course, and as long as you don't have really massive files.
[20:14] <popey> plustax: assuming you have only one sound device, if you have more than one - like a headset, we may need to change it to something else
[20:14] <doddo> jrib: cvs commit (i get the nano although both EDITOR and VISUAL is set to vim)
[20:14] <LizardK|ng> well, hard drive is cheap and plentiful, why not pick an amount you'll never actually need, but at the same time, never miss having either?
[20:14] <leoncismeck> I just hope I'm never really swapping that much is all
[20:14] <popey> plustax: interesting theme you have there by the way :)
[20:14] <synx> doddo: sorry to disappoint... /etc/alternatives is for the default editor for the computer. Not sure why visudo wouldn't use EDITOR... oh wait
[20:15] <synx> doddo: don't do "sudo visudo". Just visudo by itself.
[20:15] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, how big is really massive?  i may end up with files of several GB
[20:15] <synx> sudo resets the environment, clearing EDITOR most likely.
[20:15] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: 100's of GB or more
[20:15] <plustax> popey looks good
[20:15] <plustax> now question
[20:15] <plustax> Will it record sound coming from my songbird?
[20:15] <plustax> I dont want it to record sound from my speakers.
[20:15] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, ok, not that big probably.  gparted is done, so now i boot with the ubuntu cd and select manual install?
[20:15] <popey> plustax: i dont know, never do that
[20:15] <jrib> doddo: EDITOR=vim cvs commit  does not use vim?
[20:15] <neo_> available NOD32 LINUX beta with real time protection
[20:16] <popey> plustax: probably not
[20:16] <plustax> Well I have a question then. What can I use to put a song to a desktop video I record?
[20:16] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, i have installed linux before, back in the days before graphical installers and whatnot, so i should be ok with setting it up
[20:16] <doddo> jrib: not as expected :)
[20:16] <plustax> Something nice and easy to use
[20:16] <plustax> popey  ^^
[20:16] <popey> plustax: pitivi
[20:16] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: Ext4 is suppoused to be able to deal with much bigger files than Ext3 and better, but then that stuff about how a big file might get currupted on it hmm.  Also people say that XFS has the proper advantages of Ext4, plus that's been around much longer.
[20:17] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, i never set up GRUB before, it was LILO back then :)
[20:17] <Hilikus> hey guys, for a FS with maximum data safety/robustness, forget about performance. is it better to use ext3 or ext4? or any other FS good for a backup partition?
[20:17] <jrib> doddo: don't know, I don't have any cvs repositories but at least with bzr it seems to work fine, EDITOR=nano bzr ci   uses nano
[20:17] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: well I guess your not setting up Grub now either then, since 9.10 uses Grub 2, which is a complete rewrite of Grub, and according to some people not as good.
[20:17] <doddo> jrib: OK but does EDITOR=vim bzr ci  use nano aswel ?
[20:18] <neo_> nod32 linux working ubuntu desktop and server
[20:18] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, i'm installing 9.04
[20:18] <OttifantSir1> Can someone help me get my mic working? When I try to set the preferences for webcam, speakers and mic in aMSN, it always gets stuck at the mic. It freezes. I have no problems recording sound with Sound Recorder. Could it be because I installed aMSN 0.98 from an autopackage, and the configs don't match?
[20:18] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: oh
[20:18] <cdocbo> yeah, grub2 is buggy atm.
[20:18] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: I thought it was 9.10 hmm
[20:18] <cdocbo> and doesn't work with raid (dmraid) either
[20:18] <Hilikus> cdocbo: what bugs specifically?
[20:18] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, i have 9.10 on a laptop and wish i could go back to 9.04
[20:18] <cdocbo> ^^
[20:18] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: ok good job Ext3 is done  for the /home then
[20:18] <jrib> doddo: well my default EDITOR is vim, so I figured I would test with nano.  To answer your question, yes: EDITOR=vim bzr ci  uses vim
[20:19] <starcannon> nano is nice because it's so easy to use, no CS degree needed :)
[20:19] <jrib> doddo: do you have CVSEDITOR set?
[20:19] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: you will get some proper advantages of using Ext4  in 9.04 for /,  oh and turning on the text boot up  is :)  however since the kernel and such in 9.04,  it's not properly stable, but I never had issues.
[20:19] <bwallen> Flash videos on my laptop slow down my entire computer in ubuntu. The same isn't true for Windows on the same laptop. Is there any way to speed up flash?
[20:20] <cdocbo> bwallen, are you using the binary drivers?
[20:20] <jrib> doddo: actually, does calling « vim » by itself work for you?
[20:20] <starcannon> bwallen yeah, join the throngs of us and right email to adobe
[20:20] <Viking667> I tend to use youtube-dl, then use mplayer to play the downloaded video. Doesn't work for non-youtube, of course
[20:20] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, thanks for your help; i'll be back when the install is done and xchat is installed, assuming all goes well!
[20:20] <starcannon> bwallen outside of that, not a whole lot can be done I dont thing :(
[20:20] <bwallen> cdocbo: no, the binary ati driver doesn't support my chipset anymore.
[20:20] <zilla1> 9.04, no sound. i dropped my HD from a different box into a new laptop. can one of you all point me to a guide for what to check
[20:20] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: turn the text boot on in Grub :)
[20:21] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: so you get nice boot up text, as well as their picture,  then it really does make Ext4 look really fast :)
[20:21] <doddo> jrib: oh :)
[20:21] <doddo> jrib: aye it does
[20:21] <starcannon> bwallen does one of the archived ATi drivers work for your chipset?
[20:21] <bwallen> starcannon: I was afraid of that
[20:21] <bwallen> starcannon: I dunno
[20:21] <dakarn> upgraded 9.04 to <IP_ADDRESS> where can i find broadcom modules?
[20:21] <doddo> jrib: likely something is wrong with my env ...
[20:21] <Some_Person> Why does installing the ubuntulooks theme engine uninstall human-theme and ubuntu-desktop?
[20:21] <cdocbo> bwallen, sorry, don't know how well the flgrx/etc driver runs for your card, but you might see if you can use it over the X11 default
[20:21] <starcannon> bwallen, could be worth looking into; getting solid direct rendering support helps a lot
[20:21] <jrib> doddo: strange
[20:22] <doddo> jrib: aye! =)
[20:22] <nuclearshare> hello
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[20:23] <Viking667> starcannon: hah. Wish I could say the same. Those proprietary modules don't work worth a &(@% on my setup.
[20:23] <starcannon> bwallen its one of the reasons I still enjoy Nvidia, they don't throw me under a bus when my hardware gets old
[20:23] <cdocbo> ok guys, back again trying to get my digital tablet (generic WALTOP) working.  9.10 broke it, as it worked great in 9.04 even without drivers.  Tablet is seen (dmesg), and I can move the cursor in X, but cannot click anything.  Followed a few guides without any success.  Anyone have other advice?
[20:23] <nuclearshare> I'm having some trouble with my copy of Ubuntu Server.. is this the right place? There is no response at #ubuntu-server
[20:23] <apanda> can i theoretically use an older X version that supports my ati 9600 with the ati binary driver in 9.10?
[20:24] <apanda> or would it be better to just install 8.x?
[20:24] <cdocbo> apanda, doubt it, X's abi changed many times.
[20:24] <bwallen> starcannon: I wish I could switch... I'm using a laptop
[20:24] <sameepreturns> I am a first timer on ubuntu....i cant get sounds on my system....i can play sounds on the windows but not on ubuntu...please help
[20:24]  * Viking667 wants a kernel that doesn't keep having drmRadeonCmdBuffer issues.
[20:24] <starcannon> bwallen; nod I have an ati laptop here in my office, it runs Ubuntu okay, but its an old 7 series radeon mobile in it; I feel your pain
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> sameepreturns: the fact it works in windows is moot
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> sameepreturns: run: lspci | grep -i audio
[20:25] <nuclearshare> does anyone know how I can install ubuntu-9.10-server-i386 without a CD? Like from a USB or directly from HD? UNetbootin doesn't work..
[20:25] <jrib> !install | nuclearshare
[20:25] <sebsebseb> !server |  nuclearshare
[20:26] <sameepreturns> @actionparsnip i got my this...00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[20:26] <sameepreturns> 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc R700 Audio Device [Radeon HD 4000 Series]
[20:26] <cdocbo> nuclearshare, google is you friend.  Look for "ubuntu usb flash install"
[20:26] <apanda> meh.. thx cdocbo :/ are there big drawbacks in using ubuntu 8.x?
[20:27] <[t0rc]> how would one clear scrollback in a SSH session? (not using clear but instead clear the history for the "up arrow" functionality) ?
[20:27] <Viking667> that's not specific to ssh.
[20:27] <harovali1> hi, since I installed ubuntu 9.10, I haven't been able to make the pcspkr work normally. It is important to me. Once, if I rmmod'd pcspkr and modprobe'd it again, it was alive again, but now I can't get it.
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> sameepreturns: ok now use that in websearches to find guides
[20:27] <Viking667> that's specific to the shell you ran under ssh, i.e. bash
[20:27] <cdocbo> apanda, sure.  Software versions are going to be older.  Are you sure that the open source drivers won't work?
[20:28] <sebsebseb> apanda: going back to 8.04 or 8.10 now hmm,  maybe you should try 9.04 instead, if  you want to try another version that isn't 9.10
[20:28] <zilla1> !pastebin
[20:28] <blackxored> hello, how can I make a custom shortcut such as the one in kde to "activate window demanding attention"
[20:28] <blackxored> ???
[20:28] <Some_Person> Why does installing the ubuntulooks theme engine remove human-theme?
[20:28] <nuclearshare> sebsebseb - thanks for that info, but it doesn't really help me, I've tried the methods there..
[20:28] <apanda> the open source driver gives me about half the framerate that i get with some old omega ati drivers in windows.. so no it doesnt really work :/ seb: no i need 8.04 afaik, to get an X version thats compatible with the ati 9600 binary driver
[20:28] <sameepreturns> actionparsnip i websearched and tried quite a many things...still not working
[20:29] <cdocbo> apanda, I don't use ATI, just because of those driver issues,  so I can't help you with it really.
[20:29] <apanda> yes, guess i made the wrong choice when i bought the card.. 5 years or so ago ;)
[20:29] <sebsebseb> !ati |  apanda
[20:30] <sebsebseb> apanda: you want a closed source driver for ATI it seems
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> sameepreturns: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/274424   some possible solutions there, #12 looks good to me
[20:30] <zilla1> hey, since when do you need to sign into launchpad to use the pastebin?
[20:31] <apanda> i probably do unless the open source one's give me more or the same fps ;)
[20:31] <sameepreturns> actionparsnip, thanks.....looking into it...
[20:31] <blackxored> anyone knows how to create a custom shorcut for my wm to activate window demanding attention?
[20:31] <sebsebseb> apanda: didn't really know there was open source driver for ATI or whatever, but yeah there's some sort of open source graphics card support, for Nivida and what not.  ,but those aren't as good as the driver from the actsaul companys
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> sameepreturns: is it a laptop?
[20:32] <sebsebseb> apanda: If you want proper ATI card support, well you won't get it from an open source driver at this time.
[20:32] <apanda> the problem is that the company (ati) removes support for older cards from the current drivers..
[20:33] <apanda> and the older drivers are incompatible with the current X
[20:33] <blackxored> please pv me I'm going out for a second
[20:33] <sebsebseb> apanda: I have read something like that before on IRC, and yes ATI suck basicalley
[20:33] <sebsebseb> apanda: Nivida are good
[20:33] <Toxic> Hi !
[20:33] <sebsebseb> apanda: well each version of Ubuntu gets a differnet version of xorg
[20:33] <sebsebseb> apanda: so maybe the one in 9.04 wil work,  or maybe the one in 8.10, but sadly that release will run out of support at the time 10.04 comes out, or around that time
[20:34] <`mOOse`> so just for future reference, what ARE good vid cards to look at when running ubuntu?
[20:34] <apanda> yeah i might get a new pc sometime soonish... its pretty old. but i actually had hoped that i can run stuff better than under my years old windows 2000 install ;)
[20:34] <sebsebseb> apanda: well 8.04 has a year or so of support left on the desktop, and yep it's a good release
[20:34] <apanda> ok i might try 8.04 then soonish if i cant get the fps i need in 9.10 :)
[20:35] <sebsebseb> apanda: longer than a year of support left,  three years of support on the desktop
[20:35] <zilla1> 00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) <-- is this how lspci is describing my soundcard
[20:35] <sebsebseb> apanda: what do you want to do with the card anyway?
[20:35] <apanda> run assaultcube primarily
[20:35] <sebsebseb> apanda: oh I don't know what that is, some game?
[20:35] <apanda> yes open source fps
[20:36] <apanda> based on the cube engine
[20:36] <berrybarry> http://lifehacker.com/317125/set-up-vnc-on-ubuntu-in-four-steps I followed all steps and works tho I want to put it on my dns/domain
[20:36] <doddo> jrib: hmm it seeseemd to ignore the EDITOR and the VISUAL variables vbut CVSEDITOR worked. Strange. Anyhow thanks!
[20:36] <berrybarry> anyone know where the configuration file is?
[20:36] <Some_Person> Is there any way to use themes that use ubuntulooks on ubuntu? human-theme conflicts with the ubuntulooks package, so it can't be installed
[20:36] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[20:36] <harovali1> most people seem to dislike the pc speaker, and there are many tips to disable it. But I want it to work , and in 9.10 it doesn't work eveen if the module pcspkr is enabled. Why ?
[20:36] <sebsebseb> apanda: By the way newer is not always better,  in certain ways 8.04 is actsualley better than 9.10.   Also with Ubuntu it's about what releases are still supported, not what is the latest.
[20:37] <berrybarry> h00k?
[20:37] <ActionParsnip1> sebsebseb: +1
[20:37] <apanda> ok i didnt know that :) 9.10 is my first one ;)
[20:38] <berrybarry> looking for the x11vnc vnc-java configuration file
[20:38] <torax> has anybody had that Adobe Reader -freeze- prob with Karmic?
[20:39] <sebsebseb> apanda: maybe your card will work better in 9.04, but that runs out of support in October or early November or something
[20:39] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip1: indeed :)
[20:40] <torax> hey yo
[20:40] <ActionParsnip1> torax: launch it from a terminal. when it freezes you will get intelligent output
[20:40] <VCoolio> hi; trying to compile a package from launchpad; there are a .tar.gz (the main source), but also .diff.gz (a patch for a newer version / update) but also a .dsc file; what's that last one good for?
[20:40] <ActionParsnip1> torax: you can then websearch the output for guides
[20:40] <berrybarry> x11vnc vnc-java configuration file is where? help
[20:41] <torax> ActionParsnip1: cool thnx
[20:41] <apanda> sebsebseb i'll probably try 8.04 because i have read that the 9600 driver works there and it's the current LTS version
[20:41] <sebsebseb> apanda: ok well here's a good tip when it comes to getting ISO's
[20:41] <mulkan> hi
[20:42] <`mOOse`> or uninstall it and install foxit ;-)
[20:42] <sebsebseb> apanda: use the torrent and it will probably be fine the download,  get it from HTTP/FTP great idea to md5sum/sha1sum your ISO before burning the contents to CD, to make sure you have a good download
[20:42] <sebsebseb> apanda: or do both checks if you really want even
[20:42] <sebsebseb> apanda: most of the time they download fine, but not always
[20:43] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | apanda
[20:43] <apanda> usually it works ok with ftp clients from my experience, but thanks for the tipp, md5sum cant be bad :)
[20:43] <jcook_> Anyone here use dansguardian?
[20:43] <Hillshum> sebsebseb: BitTorrent checks anyway right?
[20:43] <apanda> torrent autochecks everything it downloads
[20:43] <aboSamoor> I am using convert command to convert a jpeg to pdf, but the result quality is low even there is not decrease in the size ?!
[20:44] <apanda> torrent autochecks in small parts even :)
[20:44] <sebsebseb> Hillshum: As  far as I know yeah, or it depends on client,  well depending on client a download check can be run manualley.
[20:44] <apanda> seb thanks, i actually have an md5 (and sha1) shell extension installed in windows
[20:44] <sebsebseb> apanda: well they are much easier to check in a Linux distro
[20:45] <berrybarry> x11vnc vnc-java help anyone?
[20:45] <sebsebseb> apanda: open the terminal  make sure your in the folder of the ISO if not CD in to it,  then  md5sum  or  sha1sum    namegoeshere.iso  get the code and compare it, so with 8.04 to the codes found  in the list of files here  http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04
[20:46] <sebsebseb> apanda: the ISO is also in that list of files
[20:47] <apanda> yes ty.. my only problem with installing from an iso atm is that i'm running 9.10 from the wubi install because i couldnt repartition my harddrive because it's full ;)
[20:47] <sebsebseb> apanda: oh right, well  you can burn the CD using wubi as far as I know
[20:48] <shane_> anyone ever try to install ubuntu on a Palm Treo 650?  Or know if it can be done?
[20:48] <hikenboot> hello I have setup a host file with extensive sites to block. unfortunately karmic seems to be ignoring the hosts file...anyone know why
[20:48] <sebsebseb> apanda: assuming you also have a burner and a CD to burn on to of course
[20:48] <reign2> what is the lightest antivirus?
[20:48] <sebsebseb> apanda: you could burn the ISO to a DVD, but that would be a waste of one really.  In the long run it is better to use real partitions instead of Wubi.
[20:48] <ActionParsnip1> !antivirus | reign2
[20:48] <reign2> and by lightest I mean with the smallest memory/cpu footprint
[20:49] <ActionParsnip1> reign2: clamav is small
[20:49] <Crash1hd> losha: So I figured out my trouble lol
[20:49] <apanda> yes i do, but that doesnt give me harddrive to partition :) it's one 100% ntfs partition with data to keep.. and i dont have a dvd writer (or even reader) in this pc :)
[20:49] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip1: I was to slow, well messing the factoid up a bit or whatever
[20:49] <apanda> but thats for me to figure out how to backup xx gb without ;)
[20:49] <sebsebseb> reign2: you don't need anti virus in Desktop Linux at this time, unless for exaple you got an email server and so your scanning for Windows viruses
[20:49] <ActionParsnip1> reign2: or you have a tinfoil hat collection
[20:50] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip1: what?
[20:50] <reign2> sebsebseb: I do alot of filesharing with my windows boxes
[20:50] <trism> VCoolio: it is a summary of the contents of the source code, generated from debian/control in the source directory, and is used when unpacking the package with dpkg-source, from: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ch-build.en.html
[20:50] <mr_engineer> hi, i messed up my sound
[20:50] <Hilikus> is there a way to do a copy that validates the result with a checksum or something like that?
[20:50] <mr_engineer> it used to work with both pulseaudio and alsa, i removed pulseaudio to use alsa, now i want pulse back
[20:50] <ActionParsnip1> sebsebseb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_foil_hat
[20:52] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip1: ok sure, but I don't get the joke
[20:52] <berrybarry> x11vnc vnc-java .... its working for inside network tho I want the configuration file so I can give it my domain/dns/host?
[20:53] <apparle> I want to use sun jdk with netbeans how to do it
[20:53] <ActionParsnip1> sebsebseb: its a synonym for super paranoia, kinda like installing antivirus on a system with no web access which will never have any extra software added to it, "just incase"
[20:53] <tarzeau> apparle: just out of curiosity, why?
[20:53] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip1: ah ha now I understand, about you put that, and I started reading the link properly
[20:53] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip1: after you put that above
[20:54] <ActionParsnip1> sebsebseb: they're all gonna get you ;)
[20:54] <apparle> tarzeau: coz I don't understand the difference between openjdk and sun jdk.... and I have never used openjdk
[20:54] <LizardK|ng> ARGGGH!
[20:54] <White_Pelican> how do I change the program that I assign keyboard shortcuts to?
[20:55] <aeon-ltd> White_pelican: its in the preferences or administration menu if your using stock ubuntu
[20:56] <mr_engineer> pulseaudio is not reading my sound card
[20:56] <DaveS> Is there a way to create a symlink that acts as a union of two directories?
[20:57] <wolter> DaveS, union of two directories?
[20:57] <White_Pelican> aeon-ltd, which options under preferences or administration? I'm new to gnome
[20:57] <ActionParsnip1> DaveS: you can create a folder with 2 symlinks to both folders
[20:57] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, the disc i thought was my 9.04 install was blank, and so i burned the iso on it, but it got an error, but i booted it anyway and it didn't work, so  now i have to reburn it.  I have so few CD-R's thinking that i'd never need them and could always use DVD-Rs
[20:57] <synx> the liveCD stops booting with sense errors mentioning sr0 and "Timeout on logical unit"
[20:58] <DaveS> action: but that would act like a sub-folder, right?
[20:58] <synx> I tried it with noapic and acpi=off and all the F6 options checked.
[20:58] <khelvan> Hello, I had Jaunty running fine on my Compaq Presario laptop, but after upgrading to Karmic wireless sometimes dies (the light continually blinks blue/amber/blue/amber) and when I try to shut it down, I have to physically shut it off, because during the shutdown/reboot process it repeats this error over and over: b43-phy0 ERROR: Fatal DMA error: 0x00000400, 0x00000000, 0x00000000, 0x00000000, 0x00000000, 0x00000000
[20:58] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | LizardK|ng
[20:58] <synx> grub loads fine, but once the kernel is loaded it does something that causes the CD drive to spin down and stop responding.
[20:58] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: I just told someone else how to do that in Ubuntu
[20:58] <ActionParsnip1> synx: did you md5 test the iso you downloaded?
[20:58] <ActionParsnip1> synx: did you run the cd verifier?
[20:58] <LizardK|ng> well i reburned it and it didn;t get any errors
[20:59] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: check the ISO is a good download, before burning
[20:59] <synx> ActionParsnip1: uh, seeing as I got it from a trusted source no. I'll go check that really quick...
[20:59] <ActionParsnip1> synx: doesnt matter if its "from a trusted source"
[20:59] <LimCore> can I tell os do by default create files with 660 instead 600 but for one directory (and it's subdirs)?
[20:59] <ActionParsnip1> synx: the data can be garbaged in transit
[20:59] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, it is, i used it in 3 different computers; its the burn that was bad
[20:59] <ActionParsnip1> synx: the source has nothing to do with it
[21:00] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: ok do a new burn then, burn a bit slower if your getting problems
[21:00] <synx> ActionParsnip1: bittorrent uses an info hash to verify that the data hasn't been corrupted.
[21:00] <ActionParsnip1> synx: its still good practice to test it
[21:00] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, only options for speed were max and 48x so i did 48x this time
[21:00] <Dantonic> what's the apt-get command to completely wipe out an installed package?  is it apt-get remove --purge <package> ?
[21:00] <synx> ActionParsnip1: yeah yeah, just lemme track down where that md5 is.
[21:00] <ActionParsnip1> synx: you should also run the cd verifier so you know what you have is a good CD
[21:00] <LjL> Dantonic: yes, it's exactly that.
[21:01] <synx> cd verifier?
[21:01] <Dantonic> LjL, ok thanks
[21:01] <ActionParsnip1> synx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[21:01] <synx> ah thanx
[21:01] <dottedquad> hello all, i've searched on google for an opensource gps navigation software and all I came upon was a project called open tracker.  Anyone know of any opensource gps navigation app?
[21:01] <smacnay> Daniel_G, dpkg --purge
[21:01] <LizardK|ng> crap, some files were corrupted... i only have one 700 mb CD-R left
[21:02] <DaveS> isn't GPS navigation mostly about data rather than software?
[21:02] <saik0> Hi when trying to install grub on a mdraid1 i get an error see pastebin: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m430fa907
[21:02] <synx> does this "cd verifier" just basically go {dd if=/dev/sr0 | md5sum -}?
[21:02] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: check that the ISO is good!
[21:02] <ActionParsnip1> LizardK|ng: burn slow, all burning software has speed settings, the default is max
[21:02] <achandra> hello...having a few issues wit getting irw to work right in 9.10 any ideas...irw returns a no such file or directory
[21:02] <synx> The .iso file is good!
[21:03] <sebsebseb> synx: Good!
[21:03] <ActionParsnip1> synx: cool, now boot to the CD and on the very first screen run the cd verifier
[21:03] <synx> now I just need to figure out how to check the CD. I guess cmp .iso /dev/sr0 would do the trick.
[21:03] <saik0> Anybody use mdraid as a bootable root with Karmic that can assist?
[21:04] <chazroberts> i cant seem to run exe files?
[21:05] <synx> oh, that's where it is? Sure thing ActionParsnip1
[21:05] <Redache> chazroberts: What file are you tryng to run?
[21:05] <chazroberts> swgsetup
[21:05] <DaveS> chaz: do you mean exe files as in non-linux binaries?
[21:05] <chazroberts> im not sure
[21:05] <michLinuxGuy> dottedquad: JOSM works pretty good for maps.  Since it's opensource, I think you could add the logic to read GPS coordinates fairly easy.  (if you can code)
[21:05] <ActionParsnip1> synx: then you know the burner has not faultered or jittered and screwed the burn
[21:05] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, so i do md5sum ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso and compare it to what's on the website?
[21:05] <Redache> chazroberts: what is swg setup?
[21:05] <dottedquad> michLinuxGuy: Thank YOU
[21:05] <chazroberts> star wars galaxies
[21:05] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: yes as long as you have the ISO saved in home
[21:06] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: otherwise you can cd into the folder, or copy/cut it into home and do it
[21:06] <synx> ActionParsnip1: I can also just {cmp .iso /dev/sr0} and if it fails only on EOF on the .iso then it's good.
[21:06] <LinuxCommunity>  DaveS: you can run exes in ubuntu , i have they were exe's programmed in c with gtk+, so it was a linux made program
[21:06] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, does md5sum /dev/cdrom
[21:06] <Redache> chazroberts: You'd need Wine, but I'm not sure Galaxies works on Linux
[21:06] <LizardK|ng> work?
[21:06] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: then the code you want is in these lists of files  http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04
[21:06] <DaveS> Linux: .exe is just a file extension, that's why I asked if it was a linux binary
[21:06] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: don't think so
[21:06] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: it's for checking an ISO just like sha1sum is
[21:07] <chazroberts> how do i get wine?
[21:07] <sebsebseb> chazroberts: sudo apt-get install wine
[21:07] <ActionParsnip1> chazroberts: sudo apt-get install wine
[21:07] <erUSUL> !software | chazroberts
[21:07] <sebsebseb> !wine |  chazroberts
[21:07] <ActionParsnip1> chazroberts: theres also: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[21:07] <LinuxCommunity> DaveS: i think you know that i know it's a file extension. cause if i didn't i wouldn't bother to say anything. but yes if the source is for linux then it will run no problem
[21:08] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, md5sum /dev/cdrom is doing something
[21:08] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: ok
[21:08] <DaveS> if the 'source' is for linux?
[21:08] <LizardK|ng> dunno what though
[21:09] <adidas986> hey all
[21:09] <zabka> i try grep foo * . although i should get some results, i get nothing at all
[21:10] <guntbert> DaveS: a tip: you can use <tab> completion for nicks - makes it a lot easier :-)
[21:10] <Snello> ciao
[21:10] <Powersource> is was browsing, and suddenly the screen suddenly popped over to the boot screen and then the login-screen. i logged in and all programs were closed, i started them again and it didn't take much time at all to start them up. anyone know what the fuck happened?
[21:10] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, md5sum /dev/cdrom and md5sum /media/Media/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso both match the md5sum from the website, so it should work ok, yes?
[21:10] <epinky> !it | Snello
[21:10] <llua> my desktop just disappeared. my panels are still there and work, but right clicking the desktop does nothing
[21:11] <Funfood> is nautilus running llua?
[21:11] <Flare183> llua: kill nautilus if its running and re run it
[21:11] <Snello> !it
[21:12] <ActionParsnip1> llua: press alt+f2   type    nautilus    press enter
[21:12] <llua> Funfood, Flare183 , ActionParsnip1 . Thx
[21:14] <peleg> Hey. I've bought a new cheap mp4 player; when plugging it in, it charges, but ubuntu does not detect it. I've searched the forums, but found no good answer. any ideas?
[21:14] <chazroberts> assertion failedwhen surfing net..whats that mean?
[21:14] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: the codes need to be the same yes
[21:15] <LizardK|ng> gonna truy booting the disc in a vm
[21:15] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: there's also a disc check on the CD
[21:15] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: to check that the psyical disc is ok or not
[21:15] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, yeah, i saw that, it didn;t load with the previous copy
[21:15] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: not the ISO, just the disc for that
[21:16] <danopia> hi
[21:16] <LizardK|ng> yes
[21:16] <sebsebseb> LizardK|ng: sometimes get an error on CD, but clean a bit of dirt off the CD, and it works
[21:16] <prappl93> Is there a guide available for easy set up of networking between Ubuntu and Windows?
[21:16] <sebsebseb> prappl93: file sharing?
[21:17] <prappl93> sebsebseb, mainly that, yes.
[21:17] <sebsebseb> !samba |  prappl93
[21:17] <zinox> is possible do multi boot both windows 7 and ubuntu?
[21:17] <sebsebseb> zinox: dual boot yeah
[21:17] <prappl93> I've installed that before and it won't let me browse the Windows Network that shows up in my network folder 100% of the time
[21:17] <ActionParsnip1> zinox: sure is
[21:17] <chazroberts> how doi surf the net when it keeps bringing up 'assertion failed'?
[21:17] <sropt> Hello.
[21:18] <sebsebseb> prappl93: smb:// internal ip address in the location bar in file manager, and  shared files on Windows, and should  work
[21:18] <ActionParsnip1> chazroberts: what browser?
[21:18] <sebsebseb> prappl93: shared folders on Windows that is
[21:18] <sropt> after I set an individual X screen to my other monitor, I can not use the mouse.
[21:18] <chazroberts> firefox
[21:18] <sropt> Help, please.
[21:19] <ActionParsnip1> chazroberts: tried closing firefox and running: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla_old   then rerunning the browser?
[21:19] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, is that utility available without booting from the disc?
[21:19] <`mOOse`> can anyone tell me how to make a default program in ubuntu - like if I open a PDF for instance, instead of the packaged PDF viewer opening, Foxit or Adobe does?
[21:19] <schnux> Hi ppl I've got Karmic and the Fujitsu xa2528 and I need to load the module amd74xx, but how do I do that when the module does not exist?
[21:20] <sropt> Help, please.
[21:20] <sropt> after I set an individual X screen to my other monitor, I can not use the mouse.
[21:20] <guntbert> !help | sropt
[21:20] <ActionParsnip1> schnux: you need to find the package it is in, or compile the module
[21:20] <guntbert> sropt: sorry, wrong factoid
[21:21] <guntbert> sropt: avoid a chain of help! please! ... if someone can answer your question that person will do it
[21:21] <plustax> how to convert .xptv file to something like avi or something most people can view?
[21:22] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, is that disc check utility available without booting from the disc?
[21:22] <raul_> how can I help ubuntu translate docummentation to my first language?
[21:22] <ActionParsnip1> `mOOse`: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1287571
[21:23] <`mOOse`> thanks ActionParsnip1
[21:23] <ActionParsnip1> !contribute | raul_
[21:23] <guntbert> !translate | raul_
[21:24] <`mOOse`> hah - that was too simple! LOL
[21:24] <hacker> need help with using unbuntu 10.0
[21:25] <wawan> are u indonesian people
[21:25] <Redache> hacker: It's an Alpha, so I wouldn't recommend using it unless you know what you're doing. Also, it's Ubuntu
[21:25] <nonexks> do i use gparted to format a usb pen drive ?
[21:25] <hacker> my bad
[21:25] <peleg> dmesg gives a nice picture. I don't know why it is not mounted. How can I manually mount this mp4 player?
[21:26] <hacker> im a newbe in linux and loveing it
[21:26] <LizardK|ng> alright, rebootin again
[21:26] <Redache> hacker: i'd use 9.10
[21:27] <nonexks> ?
[21:27] <plustax> how to convert .xptv file to something like avi or something most people can view?
[21:27] <hacker> what is the best linux to use
[21:27] <Redache> hacker: As this is
[21:27] <Redache> hacker: #ubuntu then Ubuntu
[21:28] <LinuxCommunity> hacker: its all opinionated but the very best is usually community built but the best for running an enterprise is centos or redhat
[21:28] <guntbert> hacker: this is a support channel - for general question please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:28] <plustax> its a matter of opinion
[21:28] <plustax> guntbert
[21:28] <centHOGG> !linux
[21:28] <LinuxCommunity> i prefer to use ubuntu but if i had the money and all i would love to use redhat
[21:28] <plustax> can you tell me how to convert a pitivi xptv file into something usable?
[21:29] <ikus060> Hello, I'm looking for a dock that can be use like a task bar. Do you have any suggestion ?? Currently I'm using AWN. Any other suggestion ?
[21:29] <guntbert> plustax: no, sorry, never heard of that
[21:29] <GodFazha> they money LinuxCommunity ..?
[21:29] <GodFazha> -y
[21:29] <Redache> ikus060: Docky?
[21:29] <hacker> were can i get a list of old apps for linux ?
[21:30] <reign2> ikus060:  Ive tried many and I keep coming backto AWN
[21:30] <LinuxCommunity> GodFazha: enterprise edition you can get the source code for free, but i herd they charge for the compiled with license and all but again rumor there usually never true but for some reason i believe cause i tried to get it but always something with getting an account then i did but i couldn't download enterprise 5
[21:30] <reign2> most stable for me
[21:31] <Redache> Fedora is the "free" version of Red Hat
[21:31] <guntbert> !ot | LinuxCommunity reign2 GodFazha hacker
[21:32] <LinuxCommunity> use your head for a minute ubottu: i had to reply to a persons question, otherwise it's disrespectful understand
[21:32] <berrybarry> Is my server working? http://linuxfunlife.zapto.org/
[21:32] <guntbert> berrybarry: not here please
[21:32] <hacker> I also would like to test my wifi security how would i go about doing that ?
[21:32] <g5pw> hi all! i've got a problem: trying to install ubuntu on an old machine, installed essential system, xorg and fluxbox, but resolution is screwed and my xorg.conf doesen't exist! any clues?
[21:32] <berrybarry> guntbert ok
[21:32] <blakkheim> hacker: what kind of encryption?
[21:33] <hacker> wap
[21:33] <hacker> wap 2
[21:33] <blakkheim> hacker: do you mean WPA2?
[21:33] <ikus060> Redache: I will look into Docky, but the last time I use it there was missing one of the feature I really need : drag-drop over a task
[21:33] <LinuxCommunity> berrybarry: yes its working
[21:33] <hacker> yes im sorry too much coffee
[21:33] <mha2908> Hi! I've installed the ubuntu 9.10 using Wubi on my HP Mini-Note 2133, and all seems to work fine except for the wifi. As described here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HP2133 I have tried open Administration->Hardware Drivers with ethernet connected, but it does not show any drivers I can use.... plz help me! Rly appreciate it...
[21:34] <blakkheim> hacker: PSK TKIP or AES?
[21:34] <hacker> pks
[21:34] <mosted> hello world !
[21:34] <blakkheim> hacker: switch to AES and use a very very long string of nonsense for a passphrase (at least 15 characters)
[21:35] <hacker> will do
[21:35] <guntbert> LinuxCommunity: please stay polite - and not every question in this channel is an ubuntu support question - so answering that is still off topic
[21:35] <hacker> do i need soft ware ?
[21:36] <blakkheim> hacker: you should be able to change those settings in your router's gateway webconsole
[21:36] <g5pw> anyone willing to help me? (sorry to break in)
[21:36] <hacker> o ok now im getting it
[21:37] <guntbert> g5pw: you not breaking in - maybe try to give more details
[21:37] <mha2908> no1 to assist me with my missing WiFi driver? Oh, plz! I am sooo stuck here!
[21:37] <g5pw> hi all! i've got a problem: trying to install ubuntu on an old machine, installed essential system, xorg and fluxbox, but resolution is screwed and my xorg.conf doesen't exist! any clues?
[21:37] <synx> hm... input/output error on /dev/sr0... possibly the ISO got truncated. Gotta check that CD verifier now
[21:37] <LinuxCommunity>  guntbert:  fine
[21:37] <wawan> where we can get anti net cut
[21:37] <g5pw> here it is... anything else?
[21:38] <blakkheim> g5pw: # X -configure ; mv /root/xorg.conf* /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:38] <Some_Person> I implemented what seems to be a working fix for the ubuntulooks/human-theme issue. How/where can I publish it?
[21:38] <Some_Person> I'd like to publish a repo with my fixed .debs if possible
[21:38] <guntbert> LinuxCommunity: though I don't want to sound patronizing - thank you for your understanding :-)
[21:39] <alink1000> I need help. it's not letting me install a package.
[21:39] <LinuxCommunity> all i said was fine
[21:39] <blakkheim> alink1000: output? error?
[21:39] <LinuxCommunity> god man leave me alone now
[21:39] <g5pw> thanks blakkheim, will try now
[21:39] <newclimb> Im with ubuntu 9.10 64bits in my note toshiba satellite and the butons that we touch to open a player doesn't open anyone know how to fix it?
[21:39] <alink1000> it's telling me "could not apply changes! fix broken packages first."
[21:39] <blakkheim> g5pw: make sure you do it as root
[21:39] <mha2908> sry to dbl-post: Hi! I've installed the ubuntu 9.10 using Wubi on my HP Mini-Note 2133, and all seems to work fine except for the wifi. As described here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HP2133 I have tried open Administration->Hardware Drivers with ethernet connected, but it does not show any drivers I can use.... plz help me! Rly appreciate it...
[21:39] <blakkheim> alink1000: then do so
[21:39] <Hans_Henrik> mha2908: btw wouldn't hurt asking in #linux and even #aircrack-ng  but.. if i where you, id test to connect it with cable at first, run all updates etc, and check if the drivers still isn't there
[21:39] <alink1000> how?
[21:39] <g5pw> yeah, i didn't miss the # :) anyway, X -configure was the command i was looking for... :) thanks again!
[21:39] <IdleOne> alink1000: sudo apt-get install -f
[21:40] <blakkheim> alink1000: open synaptic and find the "fix broken packages" option in one of the menus
[21:40] <blakkheim> g5pw: np
[21:40] <mha2908> Hans_Henrik: vidste ikke, at jeg også kunne finde det der :D ok, tak!
[21:40] <synx> So I selected "Check CD for defects" and the liveCD still froze at the splash screen :(
[21:40] <epinky> !dk | mha2908
[21:40] <Hans_Henrik> mha2908: and you should try ask in #ubuntu-no ^^
[21:40] <Hans_Henrik> mha2908: wups.. or dk, didnt see
[21:41] <mha2908> already got that ;) thx
[21:41] <Pipi772> Hellooooooooo
[21:41] <Pipi772> how do i execute a script when xinit runs ??
[21:41] <blakkheim> Pipi772: ~/.xinitrc
[21:41] <alink1000> unable to lock the administration directy, is another process using it?
[21:41] <alink1000> it says
[21:42] <IdleOne> alink1000: close synaptic or the software center and run that command again in terminal
[21:42] <newclimb>  Im with ubuntu 9.10 64bits in my note toshiba satellite and the butons with lights that we touch and open a player doesn't open anyone know how to fix it?
[21:42] <g5pw> oh, another thing.... anyone knows how to get the SLiM package? it's not in therepo
[21:42] <alink1000> how do I close it? nothing is open, and yet it says there is. =[
[21:42] <alink1000> okay I got it open
[21:43] <alink1000> k I ran the command
[21:43] <alink1000> now what?
[21:43] <IdleOne> now try to install whatever it was you wanted to install
[21:44] <alink1000> okay
[21:44] <Obamacide> Friend got a dell mini10v for her 15 year old son...who likes to tinker with stuff...but a linux newbie.  It comes with Windows SP3 but I want to install Ubuntu alongside it for dualboot.  Which Ubuntu would you recommend and why? Wubi or dual boot?  9.04, 9.10 UNR, or regular 9.10 desktop???  Also how much minimum GB of hd space would you give?
[21:44] <alink1000> ...it gave me the same message...
[21:44] <tux_> instal ubuntu 910 for netbooks
[21:45] <blakkheim> Obamacide: format the whole hd and install linux
[21:45] <IdleOne> alink1000: exact errors are helpful
[21:45] <vinpan> ubuntu wont detect my keyboard......should i just format the pc and try to install ubuntu
[21:45] <epinky> !unr | Obamacide
[21:45] <newclimb> anyone?
[21:45] <tux_> REMIX IS GOOD BUT IT MAY GIVE YOU AUDIO PROBLEMS
[21:45] <ango> hi
[21:45] <LinuxCommunity> e
[21:46] <epinky> !caps | tux_
[21:46] <tux_> lol bad habbit my bad
[21:46] <alink1000> it just tells me "could not apply changes! fix broken packages first"
[21:46]  * synx turns tux_'s volume down
[21:46] <kristian_> hi
[21:47] <kristian_> (xchat-gnome:19596): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixmap_new: assertion `(width != 0) && (height != 0)' failed
[21:47] <kristian_> what does that mean?
[21:47] <blakkheim> kristian_: it means use irssi :p
[21:47] <furuno> alink1000: try open up terminal and type in "sudo dpkg -f"
[21:47] <synx> oh you gotta be kidding me
[21:47] <synx> I can't even mount the damned CD
[21:47] <synx> No wonder it was dying!
[21:47] <kristian_> does anybody know?
[21:47] <kristian_> what's wrong?
[21:47] <IdleOne> kristian_: #xchat probably knows
[21:47] <furuno> kristian_: some GTK+ error/warning?
[21:48] <goose> kristian_: use real xchat, not gnome xchat
[21:48] <kristian_> ok
[21:48] <kristian_> is real xchat better?
[21:48] <goose> much
[21:48] <blakkheim> kristian_: irssi is better
[21:48] <Flare183> kristian_: Yes
[21:48] <Flare183> !best
[21:48] <vinpan> ubuntu wont detect my keyboard......should i just format the pc and try to install ubuntu
[21:48] <LinuxCommunity> i programmed in gtk+ i tell you it's different then visual c++
[21:49] <newclimb>  Im with ubuntu 9.10 64bits in my note toshiba satellite and the butons that we touch to open a player doesn't open anyone know how to fix it?
[21:49] <texas319> this might be my 19th time going back to Ubuntu. only issue i am seriously having is an ABOBE CS3 alternative
[21:49] <furuno> newclimb: of course, I believe that button is only supported on Windows, altought that might be a way to tweak it...
[21:50] <texas319> i use the entire suite dayin and day out
[21:50] <DaZ_> texas319: adobe cs2
[21:50] <vinpan> i have photoshop CS2
[21:50] <furuno> texas319: CS2 run pretty well on wine
[21:50] <vinpan> yes
[21:50] <texas319> CS2 have Indesign
[21:50] <blakkheim> newclimb: try xev to see if it detects it
[21:50] <DaZ_> running it on wine is pointless
[21:50] <DaZ_> windows apps should be used on windows :f
[21:50] <vinpan> no i dont think
[21:51] <texas319> somewhat agree with DaZ
[21:51] <newclimb> in ubuntu 9.10 32 bits its worked
[21:51] <furuno> DaZ_: photoshop is not windows apps, it runs on mac :D
[21:51] <duck_tape> anybody know how to force a text mode install for ubuntu server?
[21:51] <texas319> what about VM session of XP
[21:51] <blakkheim> newclimb: then use that
[21:51] <newclimb> just at the 64 bits not
[21:51] <vinpan> ubuntu wont detect my keyboard......should i just format the pc and try to install ubuntu
[21:51] <DaZ> furuno: it was on windows first
[21:51] <newclimb> but i got another problems with 32 bits
[21:51] <DaZ> furuno: and you can't run mac build on linux
[21:51] <DaZ> therefore it's out of discussion :f
[21:52] <furuno> DaZ: j/k you know ;)
[21:52] <losha> vinpan: seems pointless to go ahead if the live cd won't see your keyboard. Try another distro e.g. mint
[21:52] <texas319> anyone have a Virtual Box with XP and CS# or CS2 running
[21:52] <peleg> Ok, I have successfully manually mounted the mp4 player; but now I can't copy files into it (even with sudo). What can cause this?
[21:52] <ango> hi, does anyone have a solution for a "flash on ubuntu 9.10 64-bit problem" ?
[21:53] <DaZ> texas319: i've had :f
[21:53] <Redache> ango: What's the problem
[21:53] <DaZ> ango: there's no problem
[21:53] <texas319> how was it? how much memory was alloted
[21:54] <ango> im not sure, im new with ubuntu, and i cant view flash objects in my web browser
[21:54] <furuno> ango: you need to install flash first
[21:54] <Redache> ango: you need to download ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:54] <vinpan> Losha: thats the thing same cd i have i used on my laptop 2 yr old and a 5 yr old pc it works.....but on the 3 yr old pc it dose not work
[21:54] <ango> ok, ty, i'll try that
[21:54] <furuno> ango: try installing "flashplugin-installer"
 not sure the kid is ready for the plunge
[21:55] <losha> vinpan: all that tells me is that there's something weird about the 3 yr old pc hardware....
[21:55] <ango> from the terminal?
[21:55] <vinpan> hummmm
[21:55] <furuno> ango: well, it faster from then...
[21:55] <vinpan> its a emachine
[21:55] <newclimb> ango: here it is http://if5.com.br/2009/12/04/tutorial-instalando-flash-64bits-no-ubuntu/
[21:56] <losha> vinpan: and the keyboard works with windows that was on there originally, I presume?
[21:56] <Obamacide> Friend got a dell mini10v for her 15 year old son...who likes to tinker with stuff...but a linux newbie.  It comes with Windows SP3 but I want to install Ubuntu alongside it for dualboot.  Which Ubuntu would you recommend and why? Wubi or dual boot?  9.04, 9.10 UNR, or regular 9.10 desktop???  Also how much minimum GB of hd space would you give?
[21:56] <leoncismeck1> lol mint is based on ubuntu
[21:56] <vinpan> yes
[21:56] <furuno> ango: the command is "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer"
[21:56] <streuner> streuner
[21:56] <vinpan> well its a logitech KB
[21:56] <newclimb> furuno: to 64 bits
[21:56] <ango> yay :D thanks
[21:57] <newclimb> furuno: i think that its better this one http://if5.com.br/2009/12/04/tutorial-instalando-flash-64bits-no-ubuntu/
[21:57] <vinpan> is mint the same as ubuntu?
[21:57] <ubuntic1> hello all in room
[21:57] <PointMan> how can I find the version number of a package that aptitude wants to install?
[21:57] <streuner> nu da blick ich nicht durch
[21:57] <babytom> hey all
[21:57] <furuno> newclimb: cant read ES :D
[21:57] <joaopinto> PointMan, apt-cache policy package
[21:58] <losha> vinpan: well you don't have much to lose. Do some experimenting. Mint is based on ubuntu, but tends to have fewer installation problems...
[21:58] <newclimb> furuno: there is the commands
[21:58] <PointMan> joaopinto: excellent, thanks :)
[21:58] <julio> hi there yall
[21:59] <ango> only 1 more problem, all web pages loads very slowly,(some pages just stops) first i thought it could be because of the missing flash plugin, but..
[21:59] <julio> is there a way of using 2 keyb layouts? my notebook's kb is latam but i use an english usb kb...
[21:59] <newclimb> ango: did following the link
[21:59] <ubuntic1> does anybody knows how to burn cd/dvd in a ubuntu-live-cd?
[21:59] <losha> Obamacide: well, I'd like to help you, but your nick is too ugly...
[22:00] <IdleOne> losha: lol @ nicksism
[22:00] <forceflow> ubuntic1: doesn't it have brasero?
[22:00] <Obamacide> Maybe Im far left and feel that Obama has betrayed us......but beyond that....how about some of that ubuntu spirit and you help me anyways....
 Maybe Im far left and feel that Obama has betrayed us......but beyond that....how about some of that ubuntu spirit and you help me anyways....
[22:00] <ango> the command i typed in the terminal worked fine, but the web page would not open in firefox
[22:01] <root__> rt73
[22:01] <root__> aircrack/ng
[22:01] <newclimb> ango: witch command
[22:01] <babytom> hey guys, any ideas why my clean install of UNR doesnt run any of the startup programs it should?
[22:01] <vonnick> LAWL
[22:01] <trijntje> Obamacide, normal 9.10, dual boot
[22:01] <losha> ubuntic1: if you only have one dvd device, I don't think it's possible. You need a distro that never refers to the dvd device after it boots, like knoppic with the 'toram' boot parameter....
[22:01] <PointMan> Anyone use monit? If so, have you installed from src or using aptitude?
[22:01] <ubuntic1> hi forceflow: jes but the cd is busy, brasero couldn't find any cd
[22:01] <ango> it only loading and loading... this command: "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer"
[22:02] <mike_______> hello
[22:02] <newclimb> ango: do the commands at this link http://if5.com.br/2009/12/04/tutorial-instalando-flash-64bits-no-ubuntu/
 how much minimum hd space would you give?  Also need I worry about grub2 if this is a fresh install of 9.10????
[22:02] <losha> ubuntic1: knoppic -> knoppix
[22:03] <mike_______> anyone got a solution for very slow usb write speed after some time? like, it's fast until 25% and then it starts getting horribly slow. mount -o async,remount doesn't work for that device. -o flush didn't help
[22:03] <trijntje> Obamacide, 30GB is more than enough, 10 GB should be fine too. Whats wrong with grub2?
[22:03] <joshuajtl> i need some assistance folks, my touchpad is always haywire on ubuntu... im running karmic, with an alps touchpad using (i think) synaptics module... it's often difficult to use my touchpad it sticks, and is otherwise just crazy to use... occasionally there is suddenly two vertical scroll areas, one right smack in the middle of the pad, and one on the right edge where its supposed to be...
[22:03] <ubuntic1> losha: right, but i have only ubuntu right now? I wont
[22:04] <alankila> mike_______: it's probably actually writing the data when it gets slow
[22:04] <Slart> mike_______: I' had those problems too.. haven't really seen it happen lately though
[22:04] <babytom> hey guys, does anyone know why none of my startup programs are running?
[22:04] <Obamacide> trijntje, tried installing a 9.04 derivative on a second partition with 9.10 on the first and I cant get it to boot...and menu.lst is gone...so unfamiliarity is my main problem.....
[22:04] <alankila> mike_______: the kernel buffers data for some time so you can copy, say, 200 MB in a few seconds and then wait a minute for it to actually go into the thing.
[22:04] <Slart> mike_______: I used to try moving say.. a 600 MB iso file and after 300MB or so it just kind of stalled and never finished
[22:04] <ubuntic1> losha: to know if burning is possible under a livesystem?
[22:04] <babytom> Its a clean install of netbook remix
[22:04] <kacm88> Hello everyone, I'm going to upgrade from Hardy to Intrepid, do I need to create a backup or will I have all my data after the upgrade?
[22:05] <losha> ubuntic1: then I think you have to install to hard drive from the live cd, *then* you can boot from disk and burn to cd/dvd
[22:05] <mike_______> alankila: it takes way less time to copy the same data to the same device on windows
[22:05] <Slart> kacm88: always create a backup.. things can go wrong
[22:05] <deever> is there a solution to this grub2 "error: biosdisk read error" error on karmic with a raid/lvm?
[22:05] <alankila> mike_______: ok. Maybe something is actually wrong with it, then.
 the short answer is ALWAYS BACKUP....regardless
[22:05] <kacm88> thought so, thank you so much!
[22:05] <ango> well i have installed the flash plugin, but i got some bored trouble with firefox, some webpages just open fast, some don't open at all, sry my bad grammar
[22:05] <trijntje> Obamacide, /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[22:06] <newclimb> ango: pvt please
 you mean edit the grub.cfg  (My problem is that I dont know what to put in there)....the 9.04 derivative starts to boot then I get this warning about something having been possibly renames etc.
[22:06] <losha> ubuntic1: If you have *two* cd-roms, you can burn from the live-cd on the unused one. But not with just one. But as long as you have a blank to spare, why not try it?
[22:06] <ango> ok
[22:07] <dmichael> howdy
[22:07] <dmichael> I have a quick question for you guys.  I have a large list of files that all need to be removed.  What is the best way to use the list to delete the files?
[22:07] <ubuntic1> losha: ohh, i know, but i hope this is my last choise
[22:08] <trijntje> Marsupial, could be ext3 ext4 related
[22:08] <Slart> dmichael: pipe it to rm
[22:08] <Marsupial> losha Friend got a dell mini10v for her 15 year old son...who likes to tinker with stuff...but a linux newbie.  It comes with Windows SP3 but I want to install Ubuntu alongside XP.  Which Ubuntu would you recommend and why? Wubi or dual boot?  Easypeasy or stock 9.04, 9.10 UNR, or regular 9.10 desktop???  Also how much minimum GB of hd space would you give?
[22:09] <CShadowRun> Marsupial: 9.10 UNR dual boot, Wubi is prone to corrupted drive images in my experience, a minimum of 5GB drive is recommended
[22:09] <Pipi772> Hello!, i made a test file, a bash file, is ther another way to execute it than sh test ??
[22:09] <babytom> hey guys, does anyone know why none of my startup programs are running?
[22:09] <Slart> dmichael: here's some info http://unix.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc/2006-03/msg00438.html
[22:09] <babytom> its a clean instal of UNR
 both partitions are ext4
[22:09] <Slart> Pipi772: set it to "executable" and run   ./yourfile.sh
[22:10] <trijntje> Marsupial, CShadowRun UNR could be to heavy on a mini notebook
[22:10] <CShadowRun> trijntje: ...what? It's designed for it
[22:10] <trijntje> Marsupial, in that case i dont know
[22:10] <forceflow> are there any optimized kernels for Atom processors?
[22:10] <CShadowRun> trijntje: also you saying UNR is heavier than WINXP? lol
[22:11] <dmichael> i added rm /pathtofiles/ in the file and made it executable i was just wondering if there is a better way.  do I need rm infront of every line?
[22:11] <trijntje> CShadowRun, yeah, I am
[22:11] <CShadowRun> >.<
[22:11] <EsatYuce> who konw about GPG key ?
[22:11] <Hilikus> CShadowRun: did youset the shebang?
[22:11] <blakkheim> forceflow: gentoo
[22:11] <trijntje> CShadowRun, the UNR interface is heavy on the graphics, makes the whole thing slow when your video card is not up to it
[22:12] <trijntje> UNR also needs more RAM then normal ubuntu
[22:12] <CShadowRun> trijntje: the dell netbooks are designed to run unr...
[22:12] <CShadowRun> and unr was designed to run on the dell netbooks
[22:12] <EsatYuce> Who knows about GPG key?
[22:12] <joaopinto> isn't UNR expected to use less ram since it has a simpler interface and the target are less capable netbooks ?
[22:12] <trijntje> CShadowRun, I dont know that, just sharing my UNR/netboox experience ;)
[22:14] <trijntje> joaopinto, UNR needs 512 RAM ;)
[22:14] <Slart> EsatYuce: what about it? is there a real question coming after this?
[22:14] <EsatYuce> Slart, : yes it is about Launchpad key
[22:15] <joaopinto> trijntje, so does Ubuntu, that doesn't invalidate my points, I don't see any tecnhical reason for UNR to use more RAM than a regular Ubuntu desktop
[22:15] <trijntje> joaopinto, minimum requirement for normal ubuntu is 256. But its the graphics thats heavy on UNR
[22:16] <Slart> EsatYuce: if you have a question just ask it.. no need to find a specific person before you ask
[22:16] <losha> Marsupial: Tricky. There's at least one report of trouble getting a similar machine running: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1356613. Expect wireless problems and maybe more. Looks like 9.10 might be your best bet. Someone mentioned 'moblin'. Do some googling around as I did for your specific hardware....
[22:16] <EsatYuce> Slart, : ok, i didnt ask personally
[22:17] <Guest91726> hi, i just get flashplayer by apt-get ( apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree )
[22:17] <Guest91726> but i still cannot see flash in mozilla plugins
[22:17] <Guest91726> what could gone wrong?
[22:17] <losha> Marsupial: since you said a 10v, looks like you're in luck: http://blog.ibeentoubuntu.com/2009/05/why-you-want-dell-mini-10v-and-not-dell.html
[22:17] <Slart> EsatYuce: asking questions like "who knows about gpg key" is about finding a person.. if you have a question about gpg keys just ask that question.. if someone knows they will perhaps answer
[22:17] <Pipi772> Slart how do i set it to executable ??
[22:17] <brian_> q
[22:17] <joaopinto> trijntje, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[22:18] <Slart> Pipi772: use chmod   "man chmod" for more info.. or just right click on it in nautilus, select properties and check the "executable" checkbox
[22:18] <losha> Marsupial: was it worth changing your nick for?
[22:18] <EsatYuce> Slart, : ok thanks you
[22:18] <Pipi772> thanks slart
[22:18] <Slart> Pipi772: you're welcome
[22:18] <newclimb> Guest91726: which version of ubuntu 64 bits?
[22:18] <Marsupial> losha yeah i read that too....but which ubuntu to use???
[22:18] <Oddbio> I have installed apache2 web server. But I want to start it manually when I turn on my computer. How can I prevent it from automatically starting?
[22:18] <fission6> how do i install apache module? getting File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/mod_python/apache.py", line 30, in <module> import _apache
[22:18] <fission6>  how do i install this _apache
[22:18] <Slart> EsatYuce: you're welcome
[22:18] <trijntje> joaopinto, conflict:P http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu/unr
[22:19] <epaphus> is Shrew VPN client available as a package in ubuntu?
[22:19] <joaopinto> trijntje, :)
[22:19] <Slart> !info ike | epaphus
[22:20] <Slart> epaphus: there's also a "ike-qtgui" that is described as "Connection manager"
[22:20] <epaphus> Slart, by connection manager i assume its because shrew doesnt have a gui frontend? why is it called ike?
[22:20] <Guest91726> sorry, already done
[22:21] <Slart> epaphus: I have absolutely no idea.. I've never heard of the program.. I just ran "apt-cache search shrew" and told you the results
[22:22] <fission6> where is .htaccess as
[22:22] <Marsupial> no losha it was not
[22:24] <the[V]oid> hi. I need to install scons version 1.0 or later on hardy but it's not in the rep. I found it on launchpad but I don't know how to add the repository?!
[22:25] <losha> Marsupial: well, according to the articles, most distros will work. 8.04 is particularly stable, that's a plus for a beginner, so you could start with 8.04, then try moblin (http://moblin.org/) or even 9.04 or 9.10 if you're not satisfied.
[22:26] <julio> is there a way of using 2 keyb layouts? my notebook's kb is latam but i use an english usb kb... tia
[22:26] <hacker_> hi all
[22:27] <hacker_> im needing help with a wif connect
[22:27] <ManBearPig> HI. I need some help.
[22:27] <ManBearPig> the problem is  here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8516711#post8516711
[22:27] <losha> Marsupial: no need to be bitter. By sheer luck, your friend got a particularly versatile machine so you have lots of options...
[22:28] <hacker_> how to ues vm ware
[22:28] <ManBearPig> I need some help with my problem I can't install anything in ubuntu.
[22:28] <Obamacide> losha im not bitter just disallusioned (with Obama) not you
[22:28] <bl33d> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom.fdi here it says i should have removed all Wacom stuff from xorg and / or the fdi file from HAL before upgrade.  What if i did not remember to do that and upgraded?
[22:28] <ManBearPig> Here is a problem with the screenshot: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8516711#post8516711
[22:29] <bllz> !patience|ManBearPig
[22:29] <bllz> ManBearPig:  in the meantime, try running "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get uprgrade --fix-missing"
[22:30] <ManBearPig> bllz I already tried... I just can't install anything. it's not a update manager problem it's more of a deb installer problem.
[22:30] <hacker_> where can i get old linux osx from ?
[22:31] <hacker_> where can i get old linux osx from ?
[22:31] <hacker_> where can i get old linux osx from ?
[22:31] <losha> ManBearPig: looks like a packaging error in the lsb-release package. If all else fails, do a from-scratch install of 9.10 from live-cd. Much more reliable than an upgrade anyway...
[22:31] <FloodBot4> hacker_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:31] <newclimb> ManBearPig: its every thing closed?
[22:31] <persia> Guest50176: smartmontools and smart-notifier claim to somewhat provide investigation of hard disk health.  That said, they aren't perfect.
[22:31] <hacker_> sorry
[22:31] <bllz> ManBearPig:  try running the update manager from the command line and pastebin the output
[22:32] <losha> hacker_: which old linux?
[22:33] <bllz> hacker_: you talkinga bout a kernel or a distro version?
[22:33] <losha> Obamacide: this is most definitely *not* the place to discuss politics....
[22:33] <Flannel> ManBearPig: Try sudo apt-get clean, then update again
[22:33] <bllz> Obamacide:  this isn't #foxnews either
[22:34] <synx> Obamacide: ##politics is live and well.
[22:34] <Obamacide> losha you were the one who did not want to help because of my nick......and i did not come here to discuss politics....but which ubuntu citizens recommend for netbook
[22:34] <Flannel> Obamacide: Look into 'startupmanager' which is a GUI for GRUB2 configuration
[22:35] <Obamacide> thanks Flannel
[22:35] <losha> Obamacide: I have given you my best technical advice.
[22:36] <hacker_> the kernel any one
[22:36] <dbist> Mark Shuttleworth resigned as CEO of Ubuntu - I am scared!!!!
[22:36] <Obamacide> thank you losha...that's all I wanted in the first place....
[22:37] <Obamacide> dbist when???
[22:37] <spacebison> what's a good irc client for Linux?
[22:37] <Flannel> dbist: #ubuntu-offtopic, not here, thanks.
[22:37] <ManBearPig> Flannel: nope it didn't work
[22:37] <hacker_> all of them
[22:37] <losha> dbist: why? Not enough other distros to choose from?
[22:37] <ManBearPig> I get the same error
[22:37] <dbist> okay okay sorry
[22:37] <dbist> Today!
[22:37] <ManBearPig> like I said no matter what I do I can't install anything on ubunut 9.04
[22:38] <Flannel> dbist: No, not today.  Again, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[22:38] <q_> dbist, from were you know?
[22:38] <ManBearPig> it's frustrating since I asked on ubuntu forums and tried their stuff nothing worked.
[22:38] <hacker_> maybe  its the cd type
[22:38] <ManBearPig> It has been like this for 4 months.
[22:38] <dbist> Flannel is so 90s, I'm going to ubuntu-offtopic
[22:39] <dbist> anyone want to discuss go there #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:39] <Flannel> ManBearPig: Can you please pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`
[22:39] <losha> ManBearPig: In your place, I would do a from-scratch install of 9.10 from live-cd, since your system seems to be a mess...
[22:40] <cr0bar> http://i45.tinypic.com/23i8qdg.png <-- for some reason, I cannot use disk utility to remove this 1KB partition and do anything with the rest of my HDD.. not sure what to do
[22:40] <hacker_> man bear pin try to down load a new live cd and try a freash start
[22:40] <badp> Hello, we're running Ubuntu 9.10 Server on a VM and the system clock is ticking roughly more than thrice as fast as it should
[22:40] <Guest50176> i am using ver 8.04, is there a utility to check the health of the hard drive?
[22:40] <badp> any ideas?
[22:40] <forceflow> badp: vm settings?
[22:40] <forceflow> IOAPIC-related?
[22:41] <Redache> Guest50176: fsck
[22:42] <bllz> badp:  try smartmontools
[22:42] <losha> Guest50176: as someone else said. gsmartmontools. gsmartctl is a good gui http://gsmartcontrol.berlios.de/home/index.php/en/Downloads but for 8.04 you'll have to compile it yourself
[22:43] <cr0bar> is there some application I can use to check if some of my partitions are bad?
[22:43] <bllz> cr0bar:  have you tried gparted?
[22:43] <hacker_> any one know how i can get back track installed in my linux
[22:43] <cr0bar> just says no partitions, lol
[22:43] <bllz> hacker_: back track is a distro...
[22:43] <cr0bar> but disk utility shows my swap, ubuntu and my NTFS volume with XP
[22:43] <bllz> cr0bar:  what says no partitions?
[22:43] <c1h23r456i78910> i have an external hdd that keeps unmounting after a certain period of time, how can i make it stay mounted?
[22:44] <badp> forceflow: VMware 1.0.8, 256 MiB memory, a mouse, one processor, x64
[22:44] <cr0bar> bllz: one second
[22:44] <hacker_> kool
[22:44] <cr0bar> gparted just says my whole drive is "unallocated"
[22:44] <hacker_> can we run it in vm mode
[22:44] <forceflow> badp: no idea ...
[22:45] <cr0bar> but I've loaded ubuntu fine
[22:45] <ctmjr> hacker_: ask in #remote-exploit but change your nick before going in there
[22:45] <bllz> cr0bar:  okay... so...? lol i'm not sure what the problem is.  Can you not create partitions on the drive?
[22:45] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910: add it to fstab
[22:45] <badp> I'll finish filling in a bug against the kernel then
[22:45] <cistle> where is xorg.conf file in Karmic Koala?
[22:45] <cr0bar> bllz: http://i45.tinypic.com/23i8qdg.png
[22:45] <hacker_> k
[22:45] <bllz> ctmjr:  that's some of the best advice i've seen in a while
[22:45] <c1h23r456i78910> DasEil : in terminal? how do i do that
[22:45] <losha> wawan: please do not pm me. smartmontools should be in the repositories. Search for it in synaptic
[22:45] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910: and maybe check hdparm for it's spin down behaviour
[22:45] <cr0bar> the 1KB partition I can't seem to remove, nor do anything with the space afterwards
[22:45] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910: sudo fdisk -l
[22:46] <bllz> cr0bar:  that's normal
[22:46] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910: devicename ?
[22:46] <bllz> that's your extended partition space
[22:46] <webbb82> hey i have a problem  , i just installed ubunutu on my computer r should i say a fresh install and it only happens when im running chrome but my computer will just log off
[22:46] <cr0bar> hmm, I can't create anything in the free space, though
[22:46] <bllz> cr0bar;  again, that's normal
[22:46] <c1h23r456i78910> DaSEil : it gave me a list of devices under /dev
[22:46] <bllz> cr0bar: has to do with how you create logical partitions
[22:47] <cistle> where is xorg.conf file in Karmic Koala?
[22:47] <lolo88> hi all
[22:47] <cr0bar> bllz: ah, I used the livecd I think at the time to create the partitions - originally where the extended partiton is, was a primary NTFS one
[22:47] <lolo88> is there a way to in stall back track in linux
[22:47] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910: which is the external ?
[22:48] <forceflow> lolo88: backtrack is a linux distro
[22:48] <cr0bar> I then used disk utility in ubuntu to delete that and try creating two extended ones, for messing with other distros
[22:48] <bllz> cr0bar:  it's possible, but any time you have extended partitioning you're going to end up with that
[22:48] <VCoolio> cistle: if any then in /etc/X11
[22:48] <bllz> so don't worry about it
[22:48] <cr0bar> er, one extended but more inside
[22:48] <c1h23r456i78910> DasEil : its mounted as /media/disk
[22:48] <losha> ubuntic1: still there?
[22:48] <smarties9> guyz
[22:48] <lolo88> so do i use get apt \
[22:48] <ubuntic1> losha: jes here i am
[22:48] <bllz> cr0bar:  right
[22:48] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910: thats the mountpoint, which device ?
[22:49] <smarties9> the 64bit flash player has a bug in it has it been fixed yet ?
[22:49] <wawan> i do no
[22:49] <losha> ubuntic1: I found this, but it's hella complicated: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM\
[22:49] <webbb82>  so can anyone help me figure out when when im running chrome browser ubuntu kicks me out and i have to log back in
[22:49] <cr0bar> bllz: what confused me a little, was when I tried the sabayon livecd and tried installing it, it just said the whole drive was unreadable
[22:49] <bllz> cr0bar: it's magic and pixie dust necessary for the partitioning of your drive
[22:49] <webbb82> its like a mini crash
[22:49] <ctmjr> !backtrack | lolo88
[22:49] <cr0bar> bllz: where may I procure some of this dust :3
[22:49] <OerHeks> smarties9  no there is no update 10.1 yet
[22:49] <bllz> cr0bar:  hmm... sounds like the sabayon livecd is to blame
[22:50] <xhan> totem keeps cutting out on streams then buffers back at a snails pace. can anyone know how to fix this?
[22:50] <lolo88> thanks you very much
[22:50] <bllz> cr0bar:  as for the pixie dust... you'll have to ask a programmer =)
[22:50] <cr0bar> bllz: maybe.. I don't have other distros lying around right now, and right now I'm using my phone tethered via BT to connect, so not sure if I can download another
[22:50] <harovali1> most people seem to dislike the pc speaker, and there are many tips to disable it. But I want it to work , and in 9.10 it doesn't work eveen if the module pcspkr is enabled. Why ?
[22:50] <_empty> Hello, how do I choose what soundcard to use? Seems like ubuntu 9.10 cant find my usb headset? Any suggestions? My usb-headset worked on older ubuntu version..
[22:50] <bllz> harovali1:  if you google that, you'll literally get 20 hits on the first page
[22:50] <bllz> harovali1:  just google "ubuntu disable system beep"
[22:50] <LizardK|ng> sebsebseb, i borked it!  when i boot i get error 21 from grub.  I tried doing grub-install /dev/sdc but got "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device."
[22:51] <c1h23r456i78910> DasEi1 : im not entirely sure how can i tell, i have an internal and an external ones a 500gb the other a 60gb
[22:51] <cr0bar> bllz: I guess I could use acronis disk director inside XP when I fix grub2 again, but would prefer to try and create two partitions inside my extended one if I can within ubunt
[22:51] <cr0bar> u
[22:51] <jrib> harovali1: that's not what he wants :)
[22:51] <lolo88> when is a the windows 7 going to die lol
[22:51] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910: fdisk -l shows you
[22:51] <bllz> cr0bar:  use gparted
[22:51] <c1h23r456i78910> it list /dev/sda1....sda2...and sda5
[22:51] <xhan> totem keeps cutting out on streams then buffers back at a snails pace. the only way to fix it is to press pause and play, then it will start playing again immediately. can anyone know how to fix this?
[22:51] <harovali1> jrib: bllz: I'm sick :-) of disabling ir, I want it enabled
[22:51] <cr0bar> bllz: that though says my whole drive is unallocated, lol
[22:52] <losha> lolo88: shortly after you boot it :-)
[22:52] <c1h23r456i78910> DasEi1 : i think it is /dev/sda1
[22:52] <bllz> harovali1:  then just follow the directions in reverse lol
[22:52] <lolo88> lolo-0)
[22:52] <epinky> xhan: try VLC
[22:52] <bllz> harovali1:  it's just a matter of deleting a line from a config file
[22:52] <harovali1> bllz: if it were that easy
[22:52] <ctmjr> losha: good one
[22:52] <harovali1> bllz: which one ?
[22:52] <xhan> epinky: i dont want to try VLC because it doesn't work with my laptop's media buttons
[22:52] <bllz> harovali1:  google it
[22:53] <bllz> i dont know
[22:53] <c1h23r456i78910> DasEi1 : the problem is it is only listing the internal and its swap
[22:53] <harovali1> bllz: so why did you assert that ?
[22:53] <lolo88> whats the best pc brand to use with linux
[22:53] <bllz> harovali1;  because i've done it before
[22:53] <cr0bar> bllz: cheers anyhoo, too busy in here really, will check some on forums =)
[22:53] <epinky> !best | lolo88
[22:53] <Obamacide> lolo88 dell
[22:53] <bllz> cr0bar:  good luck!
[22:53] <chrisuk> hi
[22:53] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910: /media/disk ?
[22:53] <cr0bar> lolty
[22:53] <ubuntic1> losha: thanks but this is a long process, i had this done in the past, but i forgot it, i used the way with eject the cd befor burning a cd
[22:54] <lolo88> ok im sorry
[22:55] <xhan> totem keeps cutting out on streams then buffers back at a snails pace. the only way to fix it is to press pause and play, then it will start playing again immediately. can anyone know how to fix this?
[22:55] <chrisuk> would anybody mind helping me with mythfrontend? im trying to get it to launch on a separate display. i created a script to do that which works fine however ive added the script in gnome-session-properties and it doesnt do anything on login.
[22:55] <markl_> how does the udev eth device naming work?  i removed the info from udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules but it keeps naming my devices eth3, eth4 instead of eth0, eth1
[22:55] <harovali1> bllz: please help me then
[22:55] <chrisuk> sorry i should rephrase - im trying to get it to launch on login is the actual issue.
[22:55] <c1h23r456i78910> DasEi1 : ok i had to re-mount it, its under /dev/sdc1
[22:55] <LizardK|ng> how do i fix grub when it gives me error 21?  i tried booting from my cd and doing grub-install but it told me "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device."  next i tried the commands at http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3049326&postcount=2 but it had no affect.  how do i fix grub?
[22:55] <harovali1> bllz: I've already tried everything
[22:55] <bllz> harovali1:  i just did.  google the how to for disabling it and remove the line from the config file involved
[22:55] <DasEi1> c1
[22:56] <bllz> harovali1:  if that doesn't work, i'm not sure how to do it
[22:56] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910: sudo blkid
[22:56] <harovali1> bllz: i'd be very grateful to you if you coulf tell me what file it is
[22:56] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910: copy its uuid to clipboard
[22:56] <c1h23r456i78910> DasEi1 : ok pastebin
[22:57] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910: nah, clipboard, the long nuber-string
[22:57] <bllz> harovali1:  i'm not going to, i'm doing other stuff right now.  welcome to linux where you have to do a bit of research on your own.  it doesn't get much simpler than this.
[22:57] <DasEi1> number*
[22:57] <c1h23r456i78910> /dev/sda1: UUID="3be0e937-5323-4f06-abcd-87a5a06b8f44" TYPE="ext4"
[22:57] <c1h23r456i78910> /dev/sda5: UUID="920a1ab4-b8cd-44a5-83e9-5a13e679f62e" TYPE="swap"
[22:57] <c1h23r456i78910> /dev/sdc1: UUID="c9bbb62d-5aa0-4706-b9b0-a5932986be6b" TYPE="ext3"
[22:57] <c1h23r456i78910> /dev/sdc5: UUID="b3d399e3-f2b6-4a9a-afb1-393c6fa71c63" TYPE="swap"
[22:57] <xhan> totem keeps cutting out on streams then buffers back at a snails pace. the only way to fix it is to press pause and play, then it will start playing again immediately. can anyone know how to fix this?
[22:57] <FloodBot4> c1h23r456i78910: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:57] <harovali1> bllz: thanks for your hhelp, I know how to deal with linux is
[22:57] <the[V]oid> Hey! I need to somehow install SCons 1.0 or newer on Hardy Heron. How do I do that?
[22:58] <epinky> !fixgrub | LizardK|ng
[22:58] <LizardK|ng> epinky, thanks
[22:58] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910: hrm, k : gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[22:58] <bllz> harovali1:  one google search later, just to prove a point.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1313825&page=3
[22:59] <bllz> harovali1:  i'm not trying to be a jerk but it's *extremely* annoying when people won't even google their question, and you have to expect people to not want to do your research for you
[22:59] <Wicked> whats the next release of ubuntu?
[22:59] <c1h23r456i78910> DasEi1 : gedit is open
[22:59] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910: hrm, k : scroll down  add a line :
[22:59] <epinky> !lucid | Wicked
[22:59] <c1h23r456i78910> DasEi1 : at the bottom?
[22:59] <Wicked> thanks :)
[23:00] <Trustisaweakness> ok i went in to mark some updates in synaptic and it removed pidgin and gimp and I have been playing heck trying to get then back and still no luck with transmission (i forgot transmission was one too)
[23:01] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910:UUID=c9bbb62d-5aa0-4706-b9b0-a5932986be6b /media/extern  ext3   auto,user,rw        0      0
[23:01] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910:as last line, yes
[23:01] <harovali1> bllz: I've been googling for 10 hours. You should't take poeple as low.
[23:01] <xxpor2> !help
[23:02] <c1h23r456i78910> DasEi1 : ok
[23:02] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910:save and close gedit
[23:02] <poisonborz> ...can anyone help me? I'm stuck installing 9.10 on a a7n8x mobo... Installer doesn't see the drive (the livecd os does)
[23:02] <bllz> harovali1:  had you googled the search term i first suggested, you'd ahve seen it in the top 3.
[23:02] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910:sudo mkdir /media/extern
[23:02] <c1h23r456i78910> DasEi1 : ok
[23:03] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910:sudo chown -R  UrUsernameHere /media/extern
[23:03] <LizardK|ng> does /boot need to be a separate partition?
[23:03] <johnny-break> hola
[23:03] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910:mention UrUserbame, o' course
[23:03] <iceroot_> LizardK|ng: no
[23:03] <johnny-break> q
[23:04] <ntemis> hi
[23:04] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910:sudo umount /dev/sdc1
[23:04] <johnny-break> hola
[23:04] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910:sudo mount -a
[23:04] <epinky> !es| johnny-break
[23:04] <ntemis> i have a problem with a game interfering with my system files
[23:05] <dante123> hi all,  im getting an error when trying to boot into 9.04 derivative (Jolicloud)  Grub2 detected Jolicloud robby (alpha) on /dev/sda2 but I get an error when loading.
[23:05] <c1h23r456i78910> [mntent]: line 1 in /etc/fstab is bad
[23:05] <ntemis> Processing triggers for menu ...
[23:05] <ntemis> In file "/usr/share/menu/opensonic", at (or in the definition that ends at) line 4:
[23:05] <ntemis> icon="/usr/share/opensonic/images/icon.png"                                         ^
[23:05] <ntemis> Unexpected end of line.
[23:05] <FloodBot4> ntemis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:05] <poisonborz> ...can anyone help me? I'm stuck installing 9.10 on a a7n8x mobo... Installer doesn't see the drive (the livecd os does)
[23:05] <iceroot_> poisonborz: what drive?
[23:06] <c1h23r456i78910> DasEi1 : [mntent]: line 1 in /etc/fstab is bad
[23:06] <poisonborz> iceroot_: sata hdd
[23:06] <iceroot_> poisonborz: enabled fakeraid in bios?
[23:06] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910:sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:06] <bllz> Is there any way to create an LVM from the livecd?  mythbuntu only comes as a livecd now (ffffuuuuu-) and i want to span a volume across 2 disks
[23:06] <ntemis> is there something to be done to fix this
[23:07] <poisonborz> iceroot_: this is an old mobo, separate silicon 2112a controller, so no such options
[23:07] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910: pastebinit /etc/fstab
[23:07] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910: give resulting url here
[23:07] <iceroot_> poisonborz: and what if you install from live-cd?
[23:07] <poisonborz> iceroot_: i mean 3112a controller
[23:07] <DasEi1> !paste | c1h23r456i78910
[23:07] <EsatYuce> I created one key, then pasted it to Launchpad's fingerprint, then clicked import key button, then one e-mail came to my box. it is randomly text, i need to describe it. How?
[23:07] <poisonborz> iceroot_: that's what I'm trying to do, but the installer does not see the hdd... but if I enter the livecd os, I can see it..
[23:08] <ntemis> ok here we go
[23:08] <ntemis> this is where my problem is
[23:08] <ntemis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/343696/
[23:08] <c1h23r456i78910> DasEi1 : http://pastebin.com/f3b73b83b
[23:08] <ntemis> can anyone help me out? please
[23:10] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910: the "D" in first line must be DDeleted
[23:10] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910:  gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[23:10] <lbkxbx> Hey, does anyone know how to use the nouveau driver from the repo in karmic? Can't get it to load.
[23:11] <c1h23r456i78910> DasEi1 : how did it get there
[23:11] <DasEi1> ^
[23:11] <LizardK|ng> ok time to reboot
[23:11] <DasEi1> ntemis: which distro ?
[23:11] <c1h23r456i78910> DasEi1 : ok its gone
[23:11] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910:sudo mount -a
[23:11] <sqrt7744> humpf, anyone know how to find all htm file in a tree and add a line to each of them? I tried with 'find' command, but no luck
[23:11] <ntemis> karmic
[23:12] <ntemis> 9.10
[23:12] <dante123> hi all, when I installed Jolicloud (9.04 derivative) in a different partition than 9.10 on primary partition....I told it not to install bootloader.  Now, when booting grub2 sees the OS but it won't boot.  Should I have installed the bootloader?  WOuld it have overwritten the one on the first partition with 9.10??
[23:12] <DasEi1> ntemis: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:12] <sqrt7744> I mean, I can find them all, but the exec option seems to limited, since only 1 {} is allowed
[23:12] <boscop> I've put the theme files in ~/.themes and selected the theme in xfwm4-settings (I'm using xfce) but only the title bar changes to the new look, not the rest. it should look like this: http://nale12.deviantart.com/art/Silent-Night-II-144768753  i.e. the blank areas in windows should be dark and the other icons should be used
[23:12] <c1h23r456i78910> DasEi1 : ok
[23:12] <DasEi1> ntemis: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:12] <jrib> sqrt7744: why wouldn't find work?
[23:13] <sqrt7744> jrib: it finds the files, but I can't get it to modify them.
[23:13] <jrib> sqrt7744: use -exec
[23:13] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910: if that happens again, read hdparm on how to lower the spindown of that drive
[23:13] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910: man hdparm
[23:13] <sqrt7744> jrib, yeah, i used exec, but... find ./ -name '*.htm' -type f -exec cat header {} > {} \;
[23:13] <c1h23r456i78910> DasEi1 : ok
[23:13] <vinpan> ubuntu wont install on my other computer.....dose that mean i have to install another version like linux mint?
[23:13] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910: have fun
[23:13] <LaConfusedGuy> it wont get fixed
[23:13] <c1h23r456i78910> DasEi1 : how do you know all of this?
[23:13] <LaConfusedGuy> i have all over this channel
[23:13] <LaConfusedGuy> ) : obviously didn't know
[23:13] <sqrt7744> jrib, can't have two {} per call
[23:14] <poisonborz> ...can anyone help me? I'm stuck installing 9.10 on a a7n8x mobo... Installer doesn't see my sata hdd (the livecd os does). the mobo is old, so sata is on separate sil 3112a controller (=no bios sata options)
[23:14] <LaConfusedGuy> del canale per entrare
[23:14] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910: these are basics
[23:14] <jrib> sqrt7744: there's probably a nicer way, but I can't recall right now.  Just write a shell script
[23:15] <DasEi1> !faq > c1h23r456i78910
[23:15] <DasEi1> !fstab > c1h23r456i78910
[23:15] <LizardK|ng> iceroot_, can you help me with grub?  i tried what was on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows but i still get error 21
[23:15] <DasEi1> ntemis: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list      , url from terminal ?
[23:15] <LaConfusedGuy> the url in
[23:15] <zilla1> No sound on an AC'97 Audio Controller
[23:15] <zilla1> help?
[23:15] <LaConfusedGuy> is needed for audio in top right panel
[23:15] <LaConfusedGuy> can somebody help me ?
[23:15] <geirha> sqrt7744: -exec sh -c 'cat header "$1" > "$1.tmp" && mv "$1.tmp" "$1"' _ {} \;
[23:15] <c1h23r456i78910> DasEi1 : its saying i am not privilidged to mount this volume
[23:16] <LaConfusedGuy> i mount virtualbox share with the imageviewer
[23:16] <sqrt7744> geirha: thanks, will try
[23:16] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910:sudo mount -a
[23:16] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910:check /media/extern
[23:16] <vinpan> ubuntu wont install on my other computer.....dose that mean i have to install another version like linux mint?
[23:16] <MajorPayne> Hi.  I mounted a sftp server using Places->Connect to server.
[23:16] <MajorPayne> I would like to browse to that server in the console.
[23:16] <MajorPayne> Is that possible, if so how?
[23:17] <LaConfusedGuy> busybox console ubunMajorPayneu 9
[23:17] <uberblitz> ok, I just installed ubuntu netbook remix 9.10 on my lappy, and no matter how hard I try I can't get ubuntu to stop over writting my motd when I ssh into it. I already have the PrintLastLog set to "no" in my sshd_config file. Any ideas?
[23:17] <MajorPayne> LaConfusedGuy, Huh?
[23:17] <geirha> sqrt7744: You should never do anything like cat file | something > file ... because file will usually be truncated before cat will get a chance to read it.
[23:18] <c1h23r456i78910> DasEi1 : command not found
[23:18] <LaConfusedGuy> found open port 6667 on localhost
[23:18] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910:check /media/extern  << no command, advice
[23:18] <LizardK|ng> can someone help me with grub?  i tried what was on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows but i still get error 21
[23:18] <sqrt7744> geirha, thanks, it totally worked
[23:19] <MajorPayne> When I mount a remote directory with Connect To Server dialog is there any way I can access the directory in the console?
[23:19] <DasEi1> LizardK|ng: fresh karmic install ?
[23:19] <DasEi1> ntemis: ?
[23:19] <LizardK|ng> DasEi1, jaunty
[23:19] <c1h23r456i78910> DasEi1 : it says that its a directory
[23:19] <ntemis> yes
[23:19] <ntemis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/343698/
[23:19] <geirha> sqrt7744: great :)
[23:19] <LaConfusedGuy> : //paste
[23:20] <epinky> MajorPayne: http://www.cae.wisc.edu/linux-sftp
[23:20] <DasEi1> !who | ntemis:
[23:20] <c1h23r456i78910> DasEi1 : got it, just had to change ownership :)
[23:20] <DasEi1> c1h23r456i78910:fine
[23:20] <LaConfusedGuy> is fine it's important to check if its got a what
[23:20] <DasEi1> ntemis: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:21] <DasEi1> url ??
[23:21] <graelb> Hi folks...
[23:21] <ntemis> ok
[23:21] <DasEi1> LizardK|ng: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:21] <LaConfusedGuy> ok, i will try
[23:22] <vinpan> i think i found something im going to try to install ubuntu......thx for the help
[23:22] <zilla1> how can i figure out the name of the module for my modem. i have the name from lspci
[23:22] <joejc> anyone think its weird that this chan get silent for around 30 seconds almost exactly every 5min?
[23:22] <LaConfusedGuy> zilla1, lspci | grep zilla1 vga
[23:22] <MajorPayne> epinky, I don't want to download the files to my computer.
[23:22] <MajorPayne> epinky, I know how to use sftp.
[23:22] <DasEi1> LizardK|ng: pastebinit /etc/fstab
[23:22] <graelb> I'm having an issue with the mouse leaving a virtual desktop in wine while playing a game...
[23:22] <LaConfusedGuy> no tho : p
[23:23] <MajorPayne> I want to open the file while it is still on the other computer.
[23:23] <ntemis> DasEi1: http://pastebin.com/f494ceee2
[23:23] <LaConfusedGuy> http : //pastebin
[23:23] <linxeh> MajorPayne: it should mount it somewhere, in /media maybe?
[23:23] <linxeh> MajorPayne: try typing mount at the terminal - it should list all the mounted filesystems / servers
[23:23] <zilla1> LaConfusedGuy: so i have this 00:14.6 Modem: ATI Technologies Inc SB400 AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 02), but i want something to put in the blacklist (something like snd-atiixp-modem)
[23:23] <MajorPayne> Lingerance, I already checked under both /media and /mnt.  No luck :-|
[23:24] <linxeh> MajorPayne: try typing mount then
[23:24] <MajorPayne> I could download it, I was just hoping to keep all the files on the other computer.
[23:24] <DasEi1> ntemis: is there a reason for the backports repo ?
[23:24] <MajorPayne> Lingerance, I already connected to the server via the Connect to server dialog.
[23:24] <ntemis> ATH5K
[23:24] <linxeh> MajorPayne: just do it already
[23:24] <DasEi1> ntemis: ic
[23:25] <LaConfusedGuy> you came in use http : //www
[23:25] <MajorPayne> linxeh, Whops ^^
[23:25] <linxeh> :)
[23:25] <LaConfusedGuy> ok : )
[23:25] <MajorPayne> Lingerance, Sorry, that was for linxeh.
[23:25] <ntemis> didnt work
[23:25] <LaConfusedGuy> and sorry for the proprietary drivers ?
[23:25] <linxeh> MajorPayne: type mount....
[23:25] <ntemis> untill i put it in modules
[23:25] <DasEi1> ntemis: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade                    ,paste eventually errors
[23:25] <LaConfusedGuy> no errors
[23:25] <ntemis> now works ok
[23:25] <MajorPayne> I might just set up NFS.  It's on my home network, I'm not too worried about security.  I was just hoping I could get it to work via ssh.  Would be a lot easier to set up.
[23:25] <ntemis> ok
[23:25] <poisonborz> ...can anyone help me? I'm stuck with installing Ubuntu 9.10 on a A7N8X mobo..   You are right.  It's under ~/.gvfs
[23:27] <LaConfusedGuy> : /
[23:27] <linxeh> ntemis: and now you are the one bringing the bad language in here
[23:27] <vs93taras> Monitor recognition issue: ubuntu used to recognized my monitor, and through the nvidia utility it showed all the info down to the model number, but one day i turned it on and it was in the wrong resolution and now recognizes it as a generic CRT..what can I do without messing with xorg.conf?
[23:27] <MajorPayne> Sorry, my connection is lagging.
[23:27] <linxeh> MajorPayne: cool :-)
[23:27] <poisonborz> ...can anyone help me? I'm stuck with installing Ubuntu 9.10 on a A7N8X mobo.. Installer doesn't see my sata hdd (livecd os does). old mobo, separate sil 3112a controller, so no bios sata options
[23:27] <LjL> ntemis: ehm... if that happened in private, please don't bring it here
[23:27] <MajorPayne> I didn't get your response until later.
[23:27] <ntemis> ok sorry
[23:27] <LaConfusedGuy> your native language ? there may be any particular point, it just tried to force with ro but didn't have a user account yet
[23:27] <linxeh> MajorPayne: no worries :)
[23:28] <MajorPayne> linxeh, It goes and comes back.
[23:28] <LaConfusedGuy> the sun goes nova
[23:28] <erqzor___> linxeh: first use last hour, i was long time afraid by complexity, but having something very easy to use to do a backup of a directory to a opensolaris based nas