[09:26] <evol-gsc> I don't know what's wrong with my gwibber,I have reinstalled it many times but still without desktop notifications.However,these was a thread rather than a frame...
[09:27] <evol-gsc> In ubuntu12.04
[09:27] <auronandace> _paul: you haven't tried ubuntu yet so you don't know if the same bug exists
[09:27] <TakeItEZ> Myx0x3: you add just a plain username or<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:28] <Myx0x3> TakeItEZ: plain username
[09:28] <Myx0x3> what if the user is "admin" could it bypass the "deny"?
[09:29] <Myx0x3> cause the user from an tamplate i got from my VPS host, but i want to disable that user, cause ive made new users
[09:29] <TakeItEZ> Myx0x3: shouldn't because DenyUsers is the first rule being used
[09:30] <Myx0x3> TakeItEZ: aha okay, do need to place DenyUsers on bottom of the config file?
[09:30] <TakeItEZ> Myx0x3: nope, doesn't matter
[09:32] <Myx0x3> TakeItEZ: maybe it works better if i write the correct username, haha..
[09:32] <TakeItEZ> Myx0x3: that _might_ help, yes
[09:32] <Myx0x3> TakeItEZ: haha, i feel so stupid right now :D
[09:32] <Myx0x3> well thanks anyway :)
[09:33] <Myx0x3> "Permission denied, please try again."  yaay
[09:33] <OerHeks> !grub
[09:35] <gmg85> does anyone know of a free tablet and smartphone simulator i can install on ubuntu?
[09:35] <jalcine> Hey, I want to switch from 32-bit Ubuntu to 64-bit without re-downloading a new ISO
[09:36] <jalcine> can I just install a different arch and go off from there?
[09:36] <stroodlepup> hi, i'm in need of help
[09:36] <lhavelund> stroodlepup: State your issue, hopefully someone will be able to help you.
[09:37] <stroodlepup> I use an hp 550 laptop, and my card reader does not work
[09:37] <grumpyrj> stroodlepup: see if your reader shows up in lspci or lsusb or dmesg
[09:37] <stroodlepup> it has worked before, but it seems the current version of ubuntu does not support it :(
[09:37] <grumpyrj> ah
[09:38] <lhavelund> stroodlepup: no question it can work just fine with the right drivers in that case. i'm looking around.
[09:40] <lhavelund> stroodlepup: Do you know the name of the card reader?
[09:40] <stroodlepup> it's an internal card reader
[09:40] <stroodlepup> no
[09:40] <stroodlepup> wait, i'll check
[09:40] <lhavelund> stroodlepup: Could you run "lspci" and post the output to a pastebin for me?
[09:40] <rrajbe> Hi, I want to write a c program to check owner of a process is root or not. Is it possible?
[09:40] <lhavelund> rrajbe: Possibly; you may want to try another channel, though -- like ##programming or ##c
[09:40] <ikonia> sure
[09:41] <rrajbe> lhavelund: Thanks. :)
[09:41] <lhavelund> rrajbe: Welcome! Good luck.
[09:41] <lhavelund> rrajbe: Alternatively, hit up ikonia in #ubuntu-offtopic. ;)
[09:41] <stroodlepup> it only had 'express card' on the specs
[09:42] <ikonia> or not ;)
[09:42] <lhavelund> stroodlepup: Just open a terminal and run lspci - then put the output in a !pastebin. I'll find out for you :)
[09:42] <grumpyrj> hp.. ricoh?
[09:43] <stroodlepup> http://pastebin.com/Vtu0jaJ8
[09:44] <stroodlepup> Ihavelund
[09:44] <stroodlepup> ok
[09:44] <lhavelund> stroodlepup: Looking at it.
[09:45] <grumpyrj> judging from that output it seems a safe bet it's an intel :-)
[09:45] <grumpyrj> you sure it's enabled in the bios?
[09:45] <lhavelund> stroodlepup: I'm thinking what grumpyrj is, too. I can't seem to spot it in that list.
[09:45] <lhavelund> grumpyrj: Thoughts welcome. :)
[09:46] <grumpyrj> I don't even see any card reader drivers for a 550 laptop on HP's site.
[09:47] <lhavelund> grumpyrj: I saw some thread on it not working on the Ubuntuforums a while ago, but since they're old versions of the buntus...
[09:48] <grumpyrj> unless it's just part of the intel storage matrix, but most of our HPs have a different driver for the card readers.
[09:49] <grumpyrj> could you give us a pastebin of dmesg?
[09:49] <MsUser> checking am i in ubuntu channel this time?
[09:50] <grumpyrj> MsUser: this is the XP support channel
[09:50] <MsUser> gah.. this is getting annoying
[09:50] <grumpyrj> I kid. you're in ubuntu
[09:50] <snapshots_> lol
[09:50] <MsUser> oh just stoped me from closing window
[09:51] <MsUser> so like alot of people are suggesting i go to ubuntu but i am having such horrible issues and time trying to get it right
[09:51] <snapshots_> grumpyr: can i pm you?
[09:51] <evol-gsc> pci=assign-busses?
[09:51] <RomeoAva> Ubuntu 12.10 is not opening. I need to tray 3-4 times until is opening in bed resolution. That is after an regular update.
[09:51] <snapshots_> grumpyrj: can i pm you?
[09:51] <lhavelund> snapshots_: Keep the support in-channel. :)
[09:51] <grumpyrj> MsUser: at the risk of starting a war, I would be a little wary of choosing ubuntu right now.
[09:52] <snapshots_> ok ok
[09:52] <BlueEagle> RomeoAva: In what manner is it "Not opening"? Does it appear to be stuck on the splash screen?
[09:52] <MsUser> any suggestion on a decent *nix type os?
[09:53] <MsUser> but i have a few thing i need it to support
[09:53] <rumpe1> MsUser, Ubuntu
[09:53] <somsip> MsUser: the official reply in the ubuntu support channel would be to use Ubuntu.
[09:53] <BlueEagle> !enter | MsUser
[09:53] <MsUser> then how can i get it to work properly
[09:53] <grumpyrj> agreed. you would expect a biased answer to that question here.
[09:53] <somsip> MsUser: which version are you using?
[09:55] <grumpyrj> MsUser: ideally you'd ask that question in a distro-agnostic channel such as ##linux.
[09:55] <grumpyrj> Mind you, they really hate that, but it'll be fun.
[09:55] <MsUser> i tried 10.04, and 11.10 however cannot get multiple montiors working i have 3, interface would be nice to change away from unity and once installed plymouth reverts to text only
[09:55] <grumpyrj> MsUser: multi-monitor support is somewhat driver specific unfortunately. what video card?
[09:57] <MsUser> saphire 100290sr radeon hd 5870
[09:57] <grumpyrj> ok, do you know which driver you're using? ati? radeon?
[09:58] <MsUser> unfortunatly as i am a "noob" not even sure where to look as i assume whatever is default drivers
[09:58] <grumpyrj> oh, fglrx maybe?
[09:58] <grumpyrj> If you install the ati binary blob it may work quite well.
[09:59] <MsUser> is there a site i can refrence on how to do this? seems not many places are teach yourself how to use
[10:00] <administrator__> exit
[10:01] <grumpyrj> so, in your package manager try fglrx and fglrx-amdcccle (I think). That will replace the current driver with ATI's one. Please someone correct me if I got that wrong.
[10:01] <michaelf1997> ciao
[10:01] <michaelf1997> !list
[10:01] <grumpyrj> amdcccle is the "control center" config tool.
[10:02] <DJones> .
[10:04] <agentsoul> I would like to shutdown a processe (xsane).  Suggestions? A restart is no option.
[10:05] <MsUser> i will definatly try. thank you
[10:05] <grumpyrj> braaaaiinnss
[10:06] <grumpyrj> agentsoul: http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_display_and_kill_zombie_processes
[10:07] <grumpyrj> probably ignore the bit about garlic
[10:07] <lancecoder> hello people. Here fast-cgi contains logs, where lighttpd turn off => nginx+fast-cgi
[10:08] <leo2007> will services started by /etc/init.d/ scripts automatically restart when crash?
[10:09] <lancecoder> no, i'm run this = service php-cgi restart (bash script get in internet)
[10:10] <leo2007> so you have to manually restart the daemon?
[10:10] <leo2007> sounds like a lot of trouble.
[10:10] <lancecoder> yes manually
[10:10] <lancecoder> leo2007: sorry for my broken english )
[10:11] <leo2007> no worreis.
[10:11] <grumpyrj> leo2007: what service is crashing?
[10:11] <leo2007> nothing in particular.
[10:11] <agentsoul> still can't kill xsane with kill -9  and "ps ef" sends no "parents"
[10:12] <leo2007> are all services in /etc/init.d started when the system booted?
[10:12] <lancecoder> leo2007: lighttpd are logged off when falling fast-cgi (t)google
[10:13] <lancecoder>  leo2007: yes, comp not switched
[10:13] <leo2007> ??
[10:13] <grumpyrj> leo2007: I think that means yes
[10:13] <lancecoder> leo2007: computer worked fulltime
[10:15] <lancecoder> fast-cgi write to log, where lighttpd stoped
[10:15] <grumpyrj> lancecoder: could you please re-word your question/statement?
[10:16] <leo2007> ok
[10:16] <lancecoder> fast-cgi have log, if lighttpd is stopped?
[10:17] <lancecoder> sorry :(
[10:18] <grumpyrj> lancecoder: If I understand correctly, no.
[10:19] <grumpyrj> lighthhtpd uses a fastcgi module. if lighthttpd is not running, then there will be no logging, except from previous times it was running.
[10:19] <lancecoder> grumpyrj: спасибо
[10:19] <lancecoder> grumpyrj: tnhx
[10:19] <grumpyrj> umm...ok.
[10:19] <grumpyrj> np
[10:23] <Eagleman> Any suggestion on what to do if i want to use spice with virt-manager, the current qemu version does not support spice :(
[10:23] <leo2007> I have postgre db installed. I do not want init.d to control its start/stop. how to disable it?
[10:24] <grumpyrj> man service
[10:24] <grumpyrj> well, if a file in init.d was not set executable it wouldn't run either, but you probably shouldn't do it that way.
[10:25] <leo2007> so what is the proper way?
[10:25] <leo2007> man service tells nothing
[10:26] <leo2007> On redhat systems there is some way to do it.
[10:27] <pbt> aaa/quit
[10:27] <pbt> oopps!
[10:27] <pbt> !code
[10:28] <grumpyrj> there is a gui to do it somewhere, or update-rc.d
[10:32] <somsip> leo2007: maybe this wil help http://superuser.com/questions/266040/how-do-you-disable-an-upstart-service-in-ubuntu-10-10
[10:34] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[10:36] <bmw> irc://irc.openjoke.org/0dayz
[10:36] <aahmedak> 	Hi guys, do you know if there is an rpm command to know which other packages are using the package XXXX. For example, when you remove a package with rpm, it tells you this information, but is there a way to know this information without removing the package?
[10:37] <bmw> irc://irc.darksin.net/cinemando
[10:38] <bmw> irc://irc.darksin.net/las_vegas
[10:38] <a_ok> In this day and age we like to send HTML mails. Thunderbird converts my bold and italic to *text* an */text/ respectively. What is wrong with it?
[10:39] <somsip> aahmedak: rpm is not native to ubuntu. Are you neeing help with another distro?
[10:41] <aahmedak> ups sorry somsip, i'll try to ask this question on another channel related with rpm based distros. Thanks
[10:41] <somsip> aahmedak: np
[10:42] <hipstar> im trying to get dual screen working on my macbook 8,2 but when i go to select rotation it only displays anticlockwise or clockwise
[10:42] <hipstar> 'normal' is missing
[10:42] <Eagleman> Any suggestion on what to do if i want to use spice with virt-manager, the current qemu version does not support spice :(
[10:43] <aeon-ltd> Eagleman: if any versions do support it then you can compile it and use it
[10:44] <grumpyrj> a_ok: maybe you're sending in plain text? that can be set on a per-contact basis or per message. The editor still shows it in bold, but presumably marks it as you describe when you send it.
[10:45] <a_ok> grumpyrj: yeah I just checked in my main addressbook all the addresses are set to plain and I cant change them
[10:45] <grumpyrj> oh, stink
[10:45] <zombiedeadshot> hello  i am wondering how to install themes on gdm i just installed gdm and when i open the gdmsetup i just get a small window that says play login sound show the screen for choosing who will log in login as _ automatically select gnome as default session unlock and close
[10:45] <grumpyrj> what abot overriding it while you're editing?
[10:45] <grumpyrj> *about
[10:45] <a_ok> It works fine in the editor
[10:46] <a_ok> just goes wrong on send
[10:46] <grumpyrj> I mean, going "options | format | html" while writing the message.
[10:46] <zombiedeadshot> i have 2.30.2 installed
[10:47] <zZommm> anyone using kvm here? I'm having trouble with throttling disk access by a VM... whatever I set with virsh blkdeviotune it blocks the guest totally.
[10:47] <zZommm> anyone using kvm here? I'm having trouble with throttling disk access by a VM... whatever I set with virsh blkdeviotune it blocks the guest totally.
[10:47] <zZommm> whoops
[10:47] <zZommm> sorry
[10:47] <FloodBot1> zZommm: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:47] <a_ok> grumpyrj: My best guess is that EDS screws things up
[10:48] <thejollygrimreap> Hello, all. How do you turn off the dash things on the left with Ubuntu 12.10?
[10:49] <DrGrov> Hi everyone
[10:49] <aeon-ltd> thejollygrimreap: the dock?
[10:49] <thejollygrimreap> Yes
[10:50] <DrGrov> How is it with modprobe and nVidia? Can I somehow probe out the correct values for my monitor and that way get the correct modline for xorg.conf?
[10:50] <grumpyrj> DrGrov: yes. cvt
[10:51] <andip> hey guys. you know of a guide for linux-users when they convert to ubuntu? where to find what's installed. a way to start what's installed and such? will any program i install end up on the launcher-thing on the right side of my screen?
[10:51] <aeon-ltd> thejollygrimreap: here http://askubuntu.com/questions/38009/how-do-i-remove-the-unity-launcher go down to warrioring64's solution
[10:51] <DrGrov> grumpyrj: It looks like I have direct rendering. The GPU is recognized and also my LG TV is recognized as a monitor. The only thing missing is the right resolution.
[10:51] <thejollygrimreap> Ok thanks
[10:52] <andip> DrGrov: make the drivers with gtk-support, and you'll get a nice gui-interface for setting all those things
[10:53] <DrGrov> andip: The problem is that it keeps hanging up a bit on my 12.04 install. I got the correct resolution in 12.04 and it displayed it right until I restarted. It could not write to /etc/X11/xorg.conf then. Should I just have made a empty xorg.conf there so it could write it there?
[10:54] <andip> DrGrov: i've no idea tbh. this is my very first hour on ubuntu, so i'm totally new to the ubuntu-way of doing things. i can't even find what's installed on my system ;)
[10:54] <a_ok> grumpyrj: It is already formatting as html all the settings are correct but the problem lies with EDS just confirmed in Evolution all the contacts have the checkbox wants to receive html mail grayed out. Evolution probably does not need it
[10:54] <andip> ...much less figure out what gfx-driver i'm using
[10:55] <phr3d13> having an issue: tried to install nvidia drivers from edgers ppa... added ppa, apt-get update, then app-get upgrade, it built a new kernel, but the new kernel fails to boot, how do i get rid of the failed one so i can try again or fix the failed one
[10:55] <DrGrov> andip: Ok :) I have been struggling with this direct rendring + correct display resolution for the past 15 hours almost non-stop without sleep.
[10:55] <andip> DrGrov: i'm used to a totally empty xorg.conf file though. everything is autodetected
[10:55] <almoxarife> andip: there is a simple method, you need to install 'synaptic' and get very used to it, it will answer all your questions
[10:56] <almoxarife> DrGrov: nvidia correct?
[10:56] <zombiedeadshot> can someone help me find a deb for the old gdm before the version 2.30 for ubuntu  Lucid Lynx
[10:57] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Yes, it is correctly showing up as GTS250.
[10:57] <aeon-ltd> zombiedeadshot: isn't that what google is for?
[10:57] <almoxarife> DrGrov: via the config gui, you cant change resolution?
[10:57] <zombiedeadshot> im googling
[10:58] <zombiedeadshot> i just asked if anyone could help me
[10:59] <almoxarife> zombiedeadshot:  you tried the archive repos i suppose?
[10:59] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Yes, it is stuck at 1360x769 when it should go to 1920x1080. I have tried also with the graphical nVidia X Settings tool but no luck. It looks like the mode is missing completely.
[10:59] <zombiedeadshot> how would i access them
[11:00] <DrGrov> So I wonder, I got it right in 12.04 but after a restart it disappeared and reverted back. Should I just fiddle about and get modlines for 1920x1080? Or could it be perhaps the HorizSync and VertRefresh that are off in xorg.conf?
[11:00] <zombiedeadshot> i found this page but i would rather have a deb https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/gdm-2.20/2.20.10-0ubuntu3
[11:00] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Or I should just build me a older version of the nVidia drivers?
[11:00] <almoxarife> DrGrov: how about via randr? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RandR
[11:01] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Okay, looking into it. I will download it.
[11:02] <almoxarife> DrGrov: i dont see why you need the old driver, unless exaustive googling kept pointing to 'it' as the solver
[11:03] <wdnz> Hi.
[11:03] <DrGrov> almoxarife: aRandR gives the same output as a maximum, 1360x768.
[11:03] <wdnz> What is the easiest way to configure a mailserver on ubuntu?
[11:03] <almoxarife> DrGrov: this is what i have used in the past, for doc https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[11:04] <andip> anyone know of a guide for linux-users when they convert to ubuntu? will any program i install end up on the launcher-thing on the right side of my screen? is there any way i can get access to a shell/term? what's my root-password, if i need one (i never set one, nor was asked to do so)? what's standard filemanager for ubuntu, and where do i find it?
[11:04] <almoxarife> andip: there is a simple method, you need to install 'synaptic' and get very used to it, it will answer all your questions
[11:04] <andip> almoxarife: i changed my questions, you should change your answer ;)
[11:05] <isr45> how can i install tata photon in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[11:05] <almoxarife> andip: same answer applies, no root, use sudo/gksu
[11:05] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Thanks. I think I will just give it a go by building it myself. I will install the latest linux-source and linux-generic and then buld it by myself.
[11:05] <isr45> do i have to install any packages for that ?
[11:06] <almoxarife> isr45: is there a installable 'deb' avail?
[11:06] <andip> almoxarife: afaik, to use sudo, i need a shell. i've not figured out how to get to one yet
[11:06] <isr45> i don't know
[11:06] <isr45> how can i chk that ?
[11:07] <andip> isr45: use synaptic ;p
[11:07] <DrGrov> almoxarife: But I will go with that X config link you pasted first ;-)
[11:07] <DrGrov> almoxarife: I think it is just hanging about that. Nothing serious otherwise I hope. I can always build from scratch.
[11:08] <almoxarife> DrGrov: the second value seems low
[11:08] <DrGrov> almoxarife: But I wonder, there is again another update for linux-source and linux-generic. That is worrying. That means I gotta every time rebuild it over and over again.
[11:08] <almoxarife> DrGrov: the modules you mean?
[11:08] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Perhaps yes, it might just be that I gotta set the HorizSync and VertRefresh values higher but the problem is that I can not find them for my LG TV.
[11:08] <nickchr> Any suggestions on which distro to use for a system that only requires to run a Perl app on boot? Has to be as minimal as possible as it uses IDE Flash memory (DOM) and the board is the VIA EPIA ME6000G??
[11:09] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Yes, installing linux-source and linux-generic kernels means I gotta install the actual nvidia-current, either from nVidia themselves or from the repositories, again and again which strikes my nerve.
[11:10] <almoxarife> DrGrov: try the link i put up first
[11:10] <almoxarife> andip: what happens if you hit, alt-f1?
[11:11] <RomeoAva> an update at Unity or at Gnome will solve the problem?
[11:11] <andip> almoxarife: something called "dash home" is activated on my uppermost left corner
[11:11] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Yes, will do. The only problem I feel is that I will still update all those important security updates like kernel etc. and it will brake it again and again.
[11:12] <andip> almoxarife: if i press it some folder is opened. which i'm guessing is the default file-manager?
[11:12] <andip> no, a menu of kinds
[11:12] <almoxarife> andip: no idea,
[11:12] <andip> almoxarife: what did you expect to happen when i pressed alt+f1?
[11:13] <almoxarife> i expected runner to pop up, try alt-f2 andip...
[11:13] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Perhaps a PM is in order if you do not mind?
[11:13] <DrGrov> almoxarife: I can copy paste my current xorg.conf for you as a pastebin so you can see what is up.
[11:13] <almoxarife> DrGrov: i dont do pm, sorry
[11:13] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Ok, good.
[11:14] <almoxarife> DrGrov: pastebin it
[11:15] <DrGrov> almoxarife: here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1422989/
[11:15] <andip> almoxarife: yeah. seems i can type in commands to run in that alt+f2 window
[11:15] <arun_> hi there
[11:15] <arun_> my laptop is not showing wireless connections
[11:15] <arun_> can anyone help me out
[11:15] <arun_> ?
[11:15] <antonius> ??
[11:15] <arun_> using ubuntu 12.04
[11:16] <arun_> I can connect through ethernet cable
[11:16] <almoxarife> DrGrov: yeap, looks pretty much like mine, did you try increasing resolution via the link/?
[11:16] <arun_> but wireless is not being detected
[11:16] <almoxarife> andip: good, now type 'terminal' in the box
[11:16] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Not yet. I am reading into it now.
[11:16] <arun_> please help me out troubleshooting wireless
[11:17] <almoxarife> arun_: expand on the issue
[11:18] <ptrv> hi, I am running Ubuntu 12.10 and sometimes the nm-applet doesnt show the signal strength. Connection still up but the nm-applet icon shows no signal. Anyone with the same issue?
[11:18] <arun_> Can anyone tell me how can i configure wireless on ubuntu 12.04
[11:18] <DrGrov> almoxarife: So I start with gtf first and then xrandr?
[11:18] <almoxarife> DrGrov: i think i used 'cvn'
[11:19] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Ok
[11:19] <andip> almoxarife: the window vanishes, and nothing new pops up. never mind though.. all i really need is to see how steam works. anyone know if steam is easily installable?
[11:19] <almoxarife> andip: steam has its own channel, #ubuntu-steam
[11:20] <koleoptero> need some help with ndiswrapper here if there's anyone available
[11:20] <morfeo_81> hi
[11:20] <andip> almoxarife: thanks for your assistance :)
[11:20] <arun_> almoxarife : my laptop is not detecting wireless networks
[11:20] <arun_> any
[11:20] <almoxarife> arun_: using it right now?
[11:20] <arun_> yes
[11:21] <morfeo_81> How recover data from hard drive? I try foremost recover many files but not mine...why?
[11:21] <almoxarife> arun_: pastebin /var/log/syslog after trying to cycle thru wifi, yes, you may/will disconnect, return with the pastebin
[11:22] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Here I got it with cvt
[11:23] <morfeo_81> Please, How recover data from hard drive? I try foremost recover many files but not mine...why?
[11:24] <almoxarife> morfeo_81: I try foremost recover many files but not mine...why? <-- that is confusing
[11:24] <oodles_arun> hi almoxarife
[11:24] <oodles_arun> arun here
[11:24] <almoxarife> :)
[11:24] <oodles_arun> yes please tell
[11:25] <almoxarife> tell?
[11:25] <oodles_arun> wireless issue
[11:25] <almoxarife> arun_: pastebin /var/log/syslog after trying to cycle thru wifi, yes, you may/will disconnect, return with the pastebin
[11:25] <oodles_arun> laptop not detecting wireless networks
[11:25] <oodles_arun> ok
 I use foremost software and  from 1 tera recover 15 giga but the files are copy of the same images of drivers of the hard drive. I don't found any image I put in that hard drive and any document
[11:26] <almoxarife> !pastebin
[11:26] <DrGrov> almoxarife: I tried adding it with xrandr but nothing happened. I probably forgot to add the --addmode line and path to where.
[11:26] <almoxarife> morfeo_81: cant help you, try ##linux
[11:27] <almoxarife> DrGrov: there is a sequence that must be followed
[11:27] <oodles_arun> i did not understand cycle thru wifi
[11:27] <morfeo_81> thanks however !
[11:27] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Okay so just doing like this is nothing: xrandr --newmode "1920x1080_60.00"  173.00  1920 2048 2248 2576  1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync
[11:28] <koleoptero> need some help with ndiswrapper here if there's anyone available :(
[11:28] <almoxarife> oodles_arun: try using wifi first, that will collect data to /var/log/syslog, then pastebin as per above
[11:28] <morfeo_81> HI!
[11:29] <almoxarife> DrGrov: addmode? , i am not looking at the doc
[11:29] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Ok, it said on the wiki link that it should work like that.
[11:29] <oodles_arun> almoxarife: pastebin.com/ajbCX8Kd
[11:29] <aeon-ltd> koleoptero: describe it the best you can, the channel will do their best
[11:30] <koleoptero> aeon-ltd, one minute, I found something with google after all, if it doesn't work I'll come again
[11:30] <koleoptero> stupid thing been torturing me for a whole day now
[11:30] <koleoptero> lol
[11:31] <almoxarife> oodles_arun: nothing there, wifi related
[11:31] <DrGrov> almoxarife: I will just put in xorg.conf as it is said. Hopefully works. If not, I try again.
[11:31] <myhero> almoxarife: what is the irc logs link ?
[11:32] <shahid_> how good is usb3 support in 64bit desktop?
[11:32] <almoxarife> myhero: no idea
[11:33] <myhero> almoxarife: how to get list for all the channels ?
[11:34] <almoxarife> myhero: no idea
[11:34] <myhero> on the current server ?
[11:34] <almoxarife> myhero: no idea
[11:34] <myhero> any android and firefox channels ?
[11:35] <myhero> almoxarife: ?? ^^
[11:36] <Steph_De_Chine> myhero: Firefox channel is #firefox. Get Firefox from http://www.firefox.com/ | Go to irc.mozilla.org for #thunderbird and #seamonkey | http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-and-diagnose-firefox-problems
[11:36] <almoxarife> oodles_arun: Dec 10 16:56:22 arun-Vostro-1550 dnsmasq[32659]: warning: no upstream servers configured <-- issue?
[11:36] <Steph_De_Chine> myhero: And #android is for Android too.
[11:37] <myhero> Steph_De_Chine: thnx, any android channel ? and how to see irc logs ?
[11:37] <myhero> Steph_De_Chine: thnx and for logs ?
[11:37] <Steph_De_Chine> myhero: What logs?
[11:38] <myhero> Steph_De_Chine: like current chat logs in this channel ? i want some older logs!
[11:38] <almoxarife> myhero: pls stay on topic, logs are not
[11:39] <DrGrov> almoxarife: I added it like it said on the wiki. I am about to reboot to see what happens, I hope it will work.
[11:39] <almoxarife> DrGrov: good luck
[11:39] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Thanks :)
[11:39] <myhero> almoxarife: i want some older logs for this channel only....for some other troubleshooting suggestions
[11:39] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Hopefully I will be back soon... Real soon....
[11:39]  * DrGrov says his famous last words
[11:40] <DJones> !logs | myhero Is this what you're looking for,
[11:40] <micjan02> how do i do "git show" in svn?
[11:40] <myhero> DJones: thnx...maybe it will help thnx again
[11:41] <almoxarife> !git
[11:44] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Absolutely nothing happened. Still stuck at 1360x768.
[11:45] <almoxarife> DrGrov: look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and syslog
[11:45] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Okay, will do.
[11:45] <wave49> how can i connect tata photon in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[11:45] <ikonia> tata python ?
[11:46] <ikonia> how is that different from normal python ?
[11:46] <almoxarife> wave49: is that a fone?
[11:46] <wave49> no data card
[11:46] <ikonia> ooh photon
[11:46] <wave49> tata photon+
[11:47] <parapan> Hi there ..cannot login to ubuntu after installing artistx; error:Gnome power manager was not installed correctly; df -h shows /dev/sda6 as 100% used; I've booted with LiveDVD, root user and deleted approx 30 GB but df -h shows the same result ...can someone support pls ???
[11:47] <almoxarife> wave49: how does it connect to the machine?
[11:47] <ikonia> parapan: what's on /dev/sda6 ?
[11:47] <ilja> how do I run a .run file?
[11:47] <ikonia> parapan: is your home dir on /dev/sda6
[11:47] <ikonia> ilja: nvidia drivers by any chance ?
[11:47] <myhero> DJones: thnx for logs link....i got what i wanted but to bring to your notice, the second link - http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode is not opening
[11:47] <wave49> i just plug in and then it shows connected to CDMA network
[11:48] <ilja> ikonia: no, mplabx
[11:48] <parapan> ikonia: yes / ubuntu partition, with home folder
[11:48] <wave49> but it doesnt cnnect to internet
[11:48] <ikonia> parapan: so that's why you can't login
[11:48] <DrGrov> almoxarife: This is what I got, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1423036/
[11:48] <ikonia> parapan: the question is what's filling it up
[11:48] <ikonia> ilja: mplabx...no idea what that is, but normally just make it executable and run it
[11:48] <ilja> If a program works on Ubuntu under VMware, is it guaranteed to work under a real install?
[11:48] <ilja> ikonia: how do i make it exe?
[11:48] <ikonia> chmod it
[11:49] <ikonia> ilja: it "should work" if it works in vmware
[11:49] <wave49> do i have to install any package to use tata photon+ in ubuntu 12.04?
[11:49] <ikonia> wave49: you need to work out what chipset is in the dongle
[11:49] <ikonia> wave49: then find out if linux supports it
[11:49] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Pretty sure it is about the HorizSync and VertRefresh values. They are way too low.
[11:49] <IdleOne> wave49: do you have usb-modeswitch installed?
[11:50] <parapan> ikonia: I've installed artistX alongside with Ubuntu . . I guess I took all available space from ubuntu's / for the new OS . . .but again, I've already deleted a .vdi file of 30 GB and the df -h is giving me the same resuls sda6 100% used ...
[11:50] <Yeasi> hi guys , i have issu with ssh , when i'm tryin to connect somewhere i'm getting  "modulus too small: 512 < minimum 768 bits"
[11:50] <Yeasi> i have changed sshd_config ServerKeyBits to 512 but.....
[11:50] <ikonia> parapan: artistx ? is that an OS ?
[11:50] <ilja> what should i chmod with?
[11:50] <ikonia> ilja: man chmod
[11:51] <wave49> ikonia: how can i figure out that ? pls help. i am a novice
[11:51] <parapan> ikonia: yes ...a linux distro dedicated to multimedia ; based on ubuntu 12 I think ...
[11:51] <wave49> idleone: yes i have usb-modeswitch installed
[11:51] <myhero> wave49: assuming u have usb photon+ , most of these dont have linux drivers with them and dont support linux but if they do are linux compatible and have drivers then u dont have to do anything....just plug it in and it will automatically install relevant linux drivers and start working
[11:51] <ikonia> parapan: so you can't install that on the same partition as ubuntu
[11:51] <ikonia> parapan: so I don' know what you've done
[11:51] <Yeasi> anybody helps me? :-)
[11:52] <IdleOne> wave49: see http://opensource-sidh.blogspot.ca/2011/12/how-to-use-or-connect-tata-photon-plus-in-ubuntu.html
[11:52] <ikonia> Yeasi: what version of ubuntu ?
[11:52] <Yeasi> ikonia: i'm using debian squeeze
[11:52] <ikonia> Yeasi: then ask in #debian
[11:52] <Yeasi> ikonia: same issue on debian 10.04
[11:52] <ikonia> Yeasi: then ask in #debian
[11:52] <Yeasi> ikonia: sorry , not debian ubuntu 10.04 :-)
[11:52] <ikonia> Yeasi: you're using debian - ask in #debian
[11:53] <parapan> ikonia: let's start small .....I have booted with Live DVD and I've deleted a file of 30 Gb; why the system doesn't see this space ?
[11:53] <almoxarife> DrGrov: did you take any shortcuts?
[11:53] <ikonia> parapan: please showme the output of "df -h" from the livecd
[11:54] <ikonia> "show me"
[11:54] <DrGrov> almoxarife: No, I did not if I understand it right. I added the modeline fully, could it be case sensitive the hsync and vsync names? I put a big letter.
[11:55] <almoxarife> DrGrov: did you see the error in xorg.log?
[11:55] <wave49> IdleOne: i have already did that. and it showed that you are connected to a CDMA network but after a second it shows that you are offline or disconnected
[11:55] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Yes, it discarded it completely. That the TV was not "compatible".
[11:55] <myhero> wave49: also check photon+ box, it must be written on it if it supports linux or not.....btw whats your model of photon+ ?
[11:56] <wave49> myhero: it supoorts windows , mac os and linux
[11:56] <myhero> wave49: what your make and model no. of dongle ?
[11:56] <wave49> and the steps that they have mentioned to configure tata photon+ in ubuntu aren't useful for me
[11:57] <wave49> myhero: tata photon plus EC516
[11:57] <myhero> wave49: which co. ?
[11:57] <wave49> myhero: tata photon plus EC156
[11:58] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Here I found the first real clue in a thread. http://www.avforums.com/forums/9621206-post54.html
[11:58] <wave49> HUAWEI
[11:58] <wave49> myhero: ??
[11:59] <myhero> wave49: yes 1minute
[11:59] <IdleOne> wave49:  I'm am not finding anything useful from google, sorry.
[11:59] <wave49> IdleOne: it's okay...n  thanx
[12:00] <myhero> wave49: is this the same model U r asking for ? this is the manual i am getting for this model no.
[12:00] <wave49> myhero: i have the manual, but it isn't useful for me
[12:01] <almoxarife> what is a tata?
[12:02] <parapan> ikonia: you mean all lines ?
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> almoxarife  just looked it up, it's phone model
[12:02] <ikonia> parapan: I mean the output of that command
[12:02] <myhero> almoxarife: U r 'babu', u should this! btw its company in india which provides net services
[12:02] <almoxarife> DrGrov: i dont think you followed the directions, start from scratch
[12:02] <myhero> know*
[12:03] <IdleOne> myhero: Mind not insulting people with silly comments based on stereotypes
[12:03] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Ok, I did follow them. But sure. I do them again.
[12:03] <wave49> myhero: because it says, that "once after inserting the modem double click and open the folder /media/Photon Plus"  but after inserting the modem i didnt get any such folder
[12:03] <IdleOne> myhero: As a matter of fact your comment is racist and I have a good mind to ban you.
[12:03] <myhero> IdleOne: i know...better tell that to your collegues also :)
[12:03] <almoxarife> DrGrov: you dont have much choice, be carefull with the caps, dont use them unless specified
[12:04] <IdleOne> myhero: my colleague?
[12:04] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Ok, I jump in and take away the first capital letter of HorizSync and VertRefresh.
[12:04] <parapan> ikonia: output has several lines ....showing the partitions that are mounted .....the df -h from the broken distro shows /dev/sda6 100% full ......the df -h from the live DVD shows few percents on each line ....only if I mount the / partitions it shows sda6 as 100% used ....
[12:05] <wave49> IdleOne : can you tell me that why can't i get /media/Photon Plus folder after inserting my modem because the manual says that i should get it
[12:05] <myhero> IdleOne: if u'll search old logs..u'll find that the comment was once made to me by other user, i'll assume u were racist that time and ignored it and whatever plz go ahead
[12:05] <ikonia> parapan: can you please show me the output from the live CD as I requested
[12:06] <IdleOne> wave49: I don't know sorry.
[12:06] <wave49> myhero: can you help me now ?
[12:06] <wave49> IdleOne: it's okay
[12:06] <parapan> ikonia: I'll have to type everyting cause it's on the other PC .....should I do it on screen here or on pastebin ?
[12:06] <wave49> myhero: can u tell me why can't i get that folder ?
[12:07] <ikonia> parapan: does your other machine have access to the internet ?
[12:07] <ikonia> parapan: (the problem machine with the livecd)
[12:08] <parapan> ikonia: I can configure ...start with live DVD, set up the network connection and then access internet ....
[12:08] <ikonia> parapan: ok, then you can cut and paste into a pastebin and just give me the URL or use pastebinit and give me the URL
[12:10] <KETAN> hi
[12:10] <KETAN> i am new and need help
[12:11] <fidel_> KETAN: start with a problem describtion
[12:11] <DJones>  KETAN Welcome to the channel, just ask your question on one line and if somebody is able to help, I'm sure they'll start responding
[12:11] <KETAN> want to start using Ubuntu but have still not , can I install it on windows
[12:12] <KETAN> and have something like a dual OS ?
[12:12] <Brent> I have just installed windows 7. I meant to leave some space for ubuntu but forgot. Will ubuntu be able to resize my ntfs partition sot hat I can dual boot, or will I need to start from scratch?
[12:13] <ikonia> Brent: I suggest you resize it from a livecd before trying to install ubuntu
[12:13] <ikonia> Brent: then make sure you run chkdisk from windows after the re-size
[12:13] <fidel_> KETAN: you can either install it (ubuntu) on a free partition and then have a dual-boot machine - or install it inside a virtual machine inside windows - or just use a live-cd of ubuntu to take a first look
[12:13] <xbox> ubuntu on 360
[12:13] <almoxarife> KETAN: you can install ubuntu via wubi.exe , that would run using win/ntfs(the windows drive)
[12:14] <KETAN> what is Live cd ?
[12:14] <ikonia> !install | KETAN
[12:14] <ikonia> KETAN: please read the link for how to use/install ubuntu
[12:14] <ikonia> KETAN: please also read https://help.ubuntu.com to get an idea of how to actually use ubuntu
[12:14] <KETAN> ok
[12:15] <xbox> what application for make a screenshot on ubuntu 10.10 ?
[12:15] <DJones> xbox: As far as I'm aware, you can't install ubuntu on an xbox 360
[12:15] <xbox> unbuntu is on my 360 actualy
[12:15] <almoxarife> xbox: if all else fails, vlc!
[12:16] <ikonia> xbox: scrot
[12:16] <xbox> scrot ?
[12:16] <xbox> i dont speak english
[12:16] <ikonia> xbox: that is the application name
[12:17] <xbox> i understand very little
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> KETAN  xbox what is your language?
[12:17] <almoxarife> xbox: xbox is windows aint it?
[12:17] <xbox> scrot is a application for a screenshot ,?
[12:17] <Germanaz0> hello everybody, I found a bug on ubuntu appstore xD
[12:17] <Germanaz0> http://ubuntuone.com/009LnJDqPbiG50047Lylep
[12:17] <xbox> french
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> xbox what is your language?
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[12:17] <ikonia> xbox: correct
[12:17] <parapan2> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/kDYXsWkf - first output only the LiveDVD ...second output ....with 167GB partition(ubuntu) mounted and 24 Gb partition (artistx) mounted
[12:17] <xbox> thank you
[12:17] <KETAN> English
[12:18] <ikonia> parapan2: ok, how are you deleting the files ?
[12:19] <almoxarife> Germanaz0: gratuito does not work?
[12:19] <Germanaz0> gratuito = free
[12:19] <IdleOne> Germanaz0: if you click on Comprar what happens?
[12:19] <Germanaz0> buy now = paid
[12:19] <almoxarife> Germanaz0: yes i know
[12:19] <Germanaz0> Comprar is paid
[12:19] <almoxarife> Germanaz0: or 'buy'
[12:19] <Germanaz0> so, how a software is free and could be bought
[12:19] <IdleOne> Germanaz0: I know what the word means. What happens if you click on it?
[12:19] <Germanaz0> true
[12:20] <parapan2> ikonia: from terminal > sudo nautilus > browse /home folder > delete .....
[12:20] <Germanaz0> it send me to a page to pay
[12:20] <Germanaz0> have to fill credit card, etc
[12:20] <ikonia> parapan2: if you go into /media/e4530b7a-50c0-4459-bd66-620d4b26b679 are the files still there ?
[12:20] <parapan2> ikonia: but for sure it's not the proper way since the space is not freed ....
[12:20] <Germanaz0> with price 0
[12:20] <parapan2> ikonia: nope ..they are not showed anymore ...
[12:20] <almoxarife> Germanaz0: sounds like a deal, jump on it
[12:21] <IdleOne> Germanaz0: ok, that appears to be a bug. open a terminal and do ubuntu-bug software-center
[12:21] <ikonia> ahhh sudo nautilus
[12:21] <ikonia> parapan2: go into /media/e4530b7a-50c0-4459-bd66-620d4b26b679/root
[12:21] <Germanaz0> ok IdleOne now I'm not in that pc, tonight will do that command
[12:21] <ikonia> parapan2: look for a .trash or .recycle or something in that directory (use ls -la in that directory to see)
[12:22] <IdleOne> Germanaz0: that will gather some info and then open a browser where you can add the screenshot and details.
[12:22] <x_> Sup party people
[12:22] <jndcjdc> IdleOne: just wanna tell, U r Idiot and Ur act is cowardly rather height of stupidity
[12:23] <x_> IdleOne, lol :-)
[12:23] <Germanaz0> IdleOne, try to find, nitro, on appstore, do you have the same bug ?
[12:23] <IdleOne> Germanaz0: I don't have the software-center
[12:23] <Germanaz0> ah ok
[12:23] <DJones> Germanaz0: I've just tried, it does the same thing for me on 12.04
[12:24] <Germanaz0> DJones, really, a weird bug, I will write to nitro guys
[12:24] <Germanaz0> maybe is a problem of them, setting up the repo
[12:24] <parapan2> ikonia: let me understand ...go into root folder of original Ubuntu install ??
[12:24] <ikonia> parapan2: yes in /media/e4530b7a-50c0-4459-bd66-620d4b26b679/root on the livecd
[12:25] <DJones> Germanaz0: Its probably worthwhile reporting it as a bug though as IdleOne suggested
[12:25] <Germanaz0> ok
[12:25] <x_> Guys I have a debian/ubuntu question. Debian is still on kernel 2.6 with Squeeze, Ubuntu is on 3.5 where can i see a list of kernel changes between 2.6 and 3.5?
[12:26] <IdleOne> kernel.org
[12:26] <rushiagr> x_: what exactly you want to see in changes?
[12:26] <parapan2> ikonia: i need sudo to access /root ...what's the password of the live dvd root user ???
[12:28] <ikonia> parapan2: there isn't one
[12:28] <x_> rushiagr, I have been thinking about switching to debian because I don't like the way ubuntu is going w/ unity and the shopping stuff being embedded and basically some stuff that I just don't agree with /end rant. The only thing that concerns be about debian is it does not get kernel updates so it is still on 2.6 I don't want to take a step back if I'm gonna lose anything major.....
[12:28] <parapan2> ikonia: I gave enter but it doesn't work ...
[12:28] <ikonia> what command are you using exactly
[12:29] <parapan2> ikonia: cd /media/eBRBBRBRBRBBR (ubuntuinstallationHDD)/root .........cd: root: Permission denied
[12:29] <ikonia> parapan2: sudo -i
[12:30] <ikonia> parapan2: you should get a root shell
[12:30] <parapan2> good
[12:30] <parapan2> That's the point
[12:30] <ikonia> parapan2: then cd /media/$$$$$/root
[12:30] <parapan2> ikonia: OK, I have only one folder : Desktop
[12:31] <ikonia> parapan2: please type "du - h" in the root folder (not Desktop)
[12:32] <parapan2> ikonia: a lot of files .....
[12:32] <ikonia> look at the last number
[12:32] <ikonia> it should say $X GB
[12:32] <ikonia> or $X MB
[12:32] <parapan2> 872 K
[12:32] <ikonia> ok, lets try again
[12:32] <ikonia> parapan2: lets do "cd .." then do "du -h" again looking at the last number
[12:33] <x_> Ok that kernel.org website has changelogs but it is all very cryptic as I am not a programmer. Can any one tell me in human readable terms a big difference between 2.6 > 3.5 kernels? Like does anything work on 3.5 that won't work on 2.6 ?
[12:33] <ikonia> x_: it has some additional device drivers yes
[12:33] <x_> ikonia, such as?
[12:33] <ikonia> x_: however if you don't know what it does why do you want it
[12:34] <ikonia> just use what your distro provides
[12:34] <x_> ikonia,did you see my above post to rushiagr?
[12:34] <ikonia> x_: the change logs are written in English, you're capable of reading what's been added
[12:34] <x_> ikonia, reading yes, it does not mean I understand what it says
[12:34] <ikonia> x_: if you don't understand it, then you don't need it
[12:34] <ikonia> x_: just use what the distro provides
[12:35] <x_> ikonia, alright, last question then is it a big performance decrease from 3.5 to 2.6 ?
[12:35] <ikonia> no
[12:35] <x_> alright thanks for the info.
[12:35] <parapan2> ikonia: it's the same ...872 K ...but I guess is calculating the files of the LiveCD not of the broken install ....
[12:36] <ikonia> parapan2: what command exactly are you typing
[12:37] <parapan2> ikonia: open terminal / sudo -i / root bash on live DVD / cd /media/e2442xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/root   /   du -h
[12:37] <ikonia> parapan2: apologies, "du -h ."
[12:37] <ikonia> parapan2: then do "cd .." and redo "du -h ."
[12:38] <ikonia> actually, you don't need the .
[12:38] <ikonia> please do cd .. then re-do du -h
[12:38] <parapan2> ikonia: sorry exactly the same .....872 K
[12:38] <ikonia> please show me the output of "pwd"
[12:39] <parapan2> ikonia: /media/e4530b7a-50c0-4459-bd66-620d4b26b679/root
[12:39] <ikonia> parapan2: I told you to do cd ..
[12:39] <ikonia> did  you do that ?
[12:40] <parapan2> ikonia: to run dh command at bash ? outside root folder ?
[12:41] <ikonia> yes
[12:41] <IdleOne> parapan2: the full command is ( cd .. )
[12:41] <ikonia> so "cd .." then "du -h"
[12:41] <ilja> if i installed a program, where do i start it from?
[12:41] <ikonia> ilja: depends how/what you installed
[12:42] <Pici> ilja: "usually" things get added to specific directories that are in your $PATH so that you can run them from anywhere.
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> ilja  take a look in /usr/bin
[12:43] <gyre007> anyone knows how to delete a file whos name is: ???%5?w3?????c8???r?????Q??fYKqT????r????{??(d????Ӥ??D???????:`b????,M?+m???9?v??7?|ak????????唜p
[12:43] <ilja> mplabx with a .run file
[12:43] <gyre007> wth :)
[12:43] <gyre007> i've no clue...tried all sorts of things
[12:43] <ikonia> ilja: it normally self decompresses to the current working directory
[12:43] <parapan2> ikonia: I run the "du -h ." on root# - now it's counting like tousands files . . . .
[12:43] <ikonia> ilja: however you should see that when you run it
[12:43] <x_> gyre007, rm ???<tab key>
[12:43] <ikonia> parapan2: one level up from the root dir
[12:43] <ikonia> parapan2: no, not in the root dir
[12:44] <ikonia> parapan2: in /media/e4530b7a-50c0-4459-bd66-620d4b26b679
[12:44] <ikonia> parapan2: it will do thousands of files, but then give you a summary at the end
[12:44] <jrib> gyre007: you sure that's not a sign of some sort of filesystem corruption?
[12:44] <parapan2> ikonia: one level up ...means in media/xxxxxxxx Ok, got that now ....how do I stop the previous command ???
[12:44] <Pici> gyre007: if you can get 'find' to well, find it, you can use -delete
[12:44] <ikonia> just let it finish
[12:45] <ikonia> that's why I kept saying "cd .." which puts you into /media/e4530b7a-50c0-4459-bd66-620d4b26b679
[12:46] <parapan2> ikonia: didn't got-it right ......that's why I was counting files from the root folder only ....and after that I tought i have to cd .. until the filesystem ...
[12:46] <ikonia> parapan2: just cd /media/e4530b7a-50c0-4459-bd66-620d4b26b679 then "du -h"
[12:47] <kilon> anyone knows how to add a software to ubuntu software center, its open source , its a well known programming language and IDE , its MIT licensed and can be found here http://www.pharo-project.org/home
[12:47] <parapan2> ikonia: done that ...just waiting for the result
[12:47] <Pici> !newpackage | kilon
[12:48] <gyre007> I did rm *w3c* and that did the trick...
[12:48] <gyre007> x__: autocomplete didnt work as you were suggersting
[12:48] <kilon> ubottu: thank you very much
[12:48] <kilon> haha
[12:48] <Pici> kilon: you're welcome :)
[12:48] <kilon> thanks you Pici
[12:48] <parapan2> ikonia: 161G
[12:48] <ikonia> parapan2: ok, so the files are still there
[12:48] <ikonia> parapan2: do you know the name of one of the files ?
[12:49] <parapan2> artist or artistx.vdi
[12:49] <ikonia> ok, so cd /media/e4530b7a-50c0-4459-bd66-620d4b26b679
[12:49] <parapan2> search ?
[12:49] <ikonia> then "find . -name artistx.vdi -print"
[12:50] <parapan2> ikonia: ./.Trash-0/files/artist/artist.vdi
[12:50] <t432> How do it fix this?  message: "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages"
[12:50] <ikonia> ok, so it's in the .Trash-0 dir
[12:51] <ikonia> parapan2: rm -rf .Trash-0/*
[12:51] <kilon> oh boy thats tons of work :D
[12:51] <DJones> !fixdpkg | t432
[12:51] <parapan2> ikonia: let me check if I can find this with nautilus also .....
[12:51] <ikonia> parapan2: no
[12:51] <ikonia> parapan2: just type the command I have told you
[12:52] <parapan2> ikonia: Ok ...just wanted to learn some more ...:D
[12:52] <ikonia> parapan2: nautlius will not teach you anything
[12:52] <ikonia> its just browsing a directory
[12:52] <ikonia> so just run the command I've given you
[12:52] <t432> i'DJones: Thats not it. Got the message when trying to install tomcat6 package,
[12:53] <parapan2> ikonia: for sure but you gave me the remove command so I was wondering why I was not able to find the ./Trash-0 folder ????
[12:53] <ikonia> because it's a "." directory
[12:53] <yu> ll -a
[12:53] <ikonia> pay attention to what's been given
[12:53] <ikonia> .Trash-0
[12:53] <ikonia> not Trash-0
[12:55] <parapan2> ikonia: the cursor is blinking and the HDD is accessed .....
[12:55] <xsl> hello guys... i'm doing apt-get -s --no-install-recommends install lxc debootstrap libcap2-bin libpam-cap ( so i dont install cloud-utils - its like 10 more packages of "junk" )
[12:55] <xsl> will this limit any feature not related to cloud images for lxc?
[12:56] <parapan2> ikonia: gone ....now the df -h output says 22 Gb free ...should I try to reboot ???
[12:56] <ikonia> parapan2: that should be enough to let you boot and sort the rest of your issues out
[12:57] <parapan2> ikonia: try to boot and be right back from the other PC ......
[12:59] <thejollygrimreap> #reprap
[12:59] <aeon-ltd> thejollygrimreap: did the dock thing work?
[13:00] <thejollygrimreap> i followed the instructions on it and the software centre didn't work for installing gnome shell so i did it in the terminal and it worked perfectly
[13:04] <b7r3b3L> hey people can anyone help me.. i'm new here
[13:07] <armers> help leave
[13:07] <Pici> !ask
[13:07] <yu> can any body tell me the difference between terminal and console
[13:08] <aeon-ltd> yu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_console first line
[13:09] <yu> thx
[13:09] <parapan> ikonia: thak you so much bro'; it seems to work fine now; I was thinking in the same direction for solving my problem but I was few "commands" short ...thank you once again, I'll copy the commands for later use ..
[13:09] <ikonia> parapan: you're welcome
[13:14] <yu> someone told me that 'you`re welcome' is too official in English ,is that true?
[13:15] <ikonia> yu: no
[13:16] <yu> i see
[13:20] <Kartagis> 11.10 had a native typing break reminder. does anyone remember its name?
[13:20] <Kartagis> it also could locked the screen
[13:20] <JohnWHSmith> Hello
[13:21] <llutz> Kartagis: "wife" scnr
[13:21] <Kartagis> lol
[13:22] <Kartagis> llutz: er... that was a joke, right?
[13:23] <Pici> Kartagis: the only one that comes to mind is workrave, but I've never used it.
[13:24] <oskar-> Kartagis:  there still seem to exist some gconf settings in /desktop/gnome/typing_break (see e.g. in gconf-editor). i don't know, if they still have any effect...
[13:25] <Slart> Kartagis: there used to be some settings for this somewhere in the keyboard settings.. not sure if that was a separate application or something built-in though
[13:26] <Kartagis> Slart: do you know of a similar application?
[13:27] <oskar-> Kartagis:  http://ubuntuguide.net/get-back-typing-break-in-ubuntu-12-04-11-10
[13:27] <Slart> Kartagis: I've seen some threads recommending something called xwrit, haven't tried it myself though
[13:27] <Slart> Kartagis: sorry, xwrits
[13:30] <ilja> is the 694MB iso all i need to boot from usb and install?
[13:30] <Slart> Kartagis: this page, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/182597 , claims that typing_break has been deprecated in gnome 3.. perhaps that's why it's also missing in ubuntu
[13:31] <Kartagis> probably
[13:31] <Kartagis> thanks oskar- and Slart
[13:31] <Slart> Kartagis: this looks promising http://ubuntuguide.net/get-back-typing-break-in-ubuntu-12-04-11-10
[13:31] <DJones> !install | ilja
[13:33] <DJones> ilja: All you should need is the desktop .iso, then burn it to a cd or usb stick following the instructions in ubottu's links and then boot from the cd/usb stick
[13:34] <ilja> DJones: can i just copy the iso to the usb?
[13:34] <ilja> why is the 32bit version recommended? i have a 64bit platform
[13:35] <lucido> how do I get my samsung scx-4521f to scan?
[13:35] <eskimio> 2 Questions:
[13:35] <eskimio> 1. Why is it that Pidgin isn't showing up in my dock/application toolbar even though I have it open?
[13:35] <eskimio> 2. Does anyone have any recommendations on someplace to go/something to read/etc. in regards to being a new ubuntu/linux user? I just installed Ubuntu last night and I'd like to bring myself up to speed on all the capabilities of the system and also download/acquire useful applications and such.
[13:35] <FloodBot1> eskimio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:35] <DJones> ilja: The 32 bit is recommended because its more compatible with different hardware, but in most cases 64 bit is fine
[13:35] <Slart> ilja: there are some software, mostly proprietary older stuff, that is only available in 32bit.. but you'll be fine with 64-bit
[13:36] <DJones> ilja: You need to burn it to cd/usb using the instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[13:36] <Slart> ilja: in my case I'm having problems with some banking stuff that is only available for 32bit
[13:36] <DJones> ilja: Or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick if you're going to install from a usb stick
[13:38] <iceroot> Slart: but normally the 32bit versions are running on amd64
[13:39] <iceroot> Slart: amd64 is not running on 32bit, but the other way is fine
[13:39] <gyre007> im having a hard time decrypting some archive...ive no idea why :) https://gist.github.com/4250559
[13:39] <guang_> which tool can be used to analyze fat file system??
[13:39] <ikonia> analyze ?
[13:40] <gyre007> the data have been encrypted using this gem https://github.com/meskyanichi/backup/wiki/Encryptors
[13:40] <Slart> iceroot: yes, but in this case the bank wants me to download a 32bit firefox addon for 32bit firefox.. and then the addon needs other 32bit libraries.. and comes with its own inhouse-"as stupid as we are"-installer that doesn't just let me just put the files in the right place
[13:40] <iceroot> Slart: ah ok, that doesnt sound nice
[13:41] <ilja> I want to boot from USB
[13:41] <ilja> not DVD
[13:41] <ikonia> what's stopping you ?
[13:41] <Slart> iceroot: well.. no.. but it gives me my yearly dosage of tech-rage.. usually keeps me going for at least another year =)
[13:41] <ilja> still need to burn? i have installed backratck linux with jsut an ISO
[13:41] <mustafa_> hi
[13:42] <ikonia> ilja: you can use the same process as you used with backtrack on ubuntu
[13:42] <blami> ilja: no just dd iso image to usb drive
[13:42] <blami> ilja: it should boot then ...
[13:42] <mustafa_> could any onehelp me
[13:42] <iceroot> Slart: but if i am correct firefix is only available in 32bit?
[13:42] <mustafa_> new user for ubuntu
[13:42] <blami> mustafa_: if you tell us your issue :)
[13:42] <iceroot> Slart: there was something like "we are using the binaries from mozilla directly and there are only 32bit"
[13:43] <mustafa_> i want to install a lamp server and configure it
[13:43] <blami> iceroot: huh?
[13:43] <mustafa_> but dont know
[13:43] <blami> iceroot: i have 64bit firefox
[13:43] <blami> mustafa_: there are plenty howtos around internet ... you should read carefully. Why are you doing so? for development?
[13:43] <Slart> iceroot: that might be so.. but the addons and plugins are 64 bit, I think.. it has almost been a year since I messed with this the last time
[13:45] <iceroot> hm ok file /usr/lib/firefox/firefox is showing 64bit, i am sure on older releases firefox was 32bit only because mozilla was not providing 64bit binaries
[13:45] <mustafa_> sorry  have a problem with php config and link my php navigator with mysql
[13:45] <blami> iceroot: eh, ubuntu really doesn't relly on what mozilla provides
[13:45] <iceroot> blami: you are not allowed to change firefox because of that debian is not using firefox
[13:45] <ilja> blami: dd?
[13:45] <iceroot> blami: and because of "you are not allowed" you have to use the binaries
[13:46] <ilja> for USB i dont need to burn? just copy iso to USB?
[13:46] <Pici> ilja: no.
[13:46] <iceroot> blami: you are not allowed to change firefox when you still want to call it firefox
[13:46] <ilja> Pici: no as in dont need to burn?
[13:46] <Rexter> Hi, I'm using 12.04 in classic mode with docky. Sometimes docky crashes, or simply go away during system updates. I'm looking for a way to have docky auto restart if the system finds that it's not running. What I want is similar to how OSX restarts the dock whenever needed, and Windows does the same with Explorer.
[13:47] <Pici> ilja: you can't just "copy the iso" to the USB and expect it to work. see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[13:47] <blami> iceroot: i don't think so. Debian does not ship firefox because it has trademarked branding (that fox hugging planet)
[13:47] <iceroot> blami: as i said
[13:47] <iceroot> blami: you are not allowed to change firefox and call it still firefox because of the trademark
[13:48] <blami> iceroot: you are allowed to change firefox. It is opensource project
[13:48] <iceroot> blami: but not using the name firefox
[13:48] <ilja> so just ut the iso on the usb...
[13:48] <AndreeeCZ> hello. Would this netbook be okay with ubuntu? http://www.alza.cz/hp-pavilion-dm1-4210sc-d339930.htm#popis
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> AndreeeCZ  wrong channel
[13:49] <guang_> which command can be used to analyze fat file system??
[13:49] <blami> iceroot: yeah but you can recompile and package it and ship it
[13:49] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:49] <iceroot> blami: yes
[13:49] <blami> iceroot: ubuntu compiles firefox from mozilla repository without any patches dissaproved by mofo
[13:49] <AndreeeCZ> MonkeyDust, what do you mean? This is #ubuntu channel.. ? In what channel should i ask? :)
[13:49] <blami> iceroot: you can even pack it with handful of extensions or plugins
[13:50] <blami> iceroot: and it is still ok
[13:50] <mat619> Hey there! A coworker would like to have an own session on my Xeon workstation that I use here, in order to have access to a powerful machine for number crunching to access from a Windows terminal server. Any ideas how to accomplish this task? I've never done anything like that, so open for all ideas.
[13:50] <guang_> for example,i want to find the sec number of root directory by tool instead of manual.
[13:50] <iceroot> blami: and earlier versions did not recompile it, they used the binary
[13:50] <blami> iceroot: problems in debian were a little bit different
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> AndreeeCZ  start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[13:50] <mustafa_> blami :iam using 12.10
[13:50] <mat619> Running Kubuntu 12.04 btw.
[13:50] <iceroot> blami: and because of that there was not amd64 version
[13:50] <blami> iceroot: I would say they shipped recompilled 32bit only binary because flash and java wasn't compatible with 64bit one
[13:52] <iceroot> blami: i thought the reason was different but the result will be the same, 32bit version :)
[13:53] <mephistohk> dd
[13:53] <Dooma> hello
[13:53] <kakq> good
[13:53] <kakq> I'm be back
[13:53] <mephistohk> yes, you are back
[13:54] <Dooma> I have a problem with acpi buttons .. for example Brightness down button
[13:54] <hanai> hi
[13:54] <Dooma> hi
[13:54] <BluesKaj> iceroot, blama , the adobe site version libflashplayer.so placed in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins works fine here
[13:57] <ilja> should i format my usb to FAT if i should install from USB?
[13:57] <iceroot> ilja: no
[13:58] <iceroot> ilja: it will automaticly be formated to the ISO filesystem
[13:59] <mustafa_> hi
[14:02] <superbbb> ciao a tutti
[14:02] <superbbb> come si fa a formattare una penna usb
[14:02] <Pici> !it | superbbb
[14:09] <Domincii> Hey folks, I can't seem to access one of my hard drives in windows, however it's useable in Ubuntu, could someone help? or should i go to ##windows? im not sure which OS is the problem atm
[14:09] <kanliot> yes
[14:09] <kanliot> because its a windows problems
[14:10] <Domincii> kanliot: thanks
[14:10] <kanliot> is it ext4
[14:10] <b14d3> It could be an Ubuntu issue, if Samba isn't configured properly
[14:10] <b14d3> Or is it a dual-boot situation?
[14:10] <Pici> b14d3: samba doesn't have anything to do with drives on the same physical machine.
[14:10] <b14d3> I don't see anywhere where he said it was or was not on the same physical machine.
[14:11] <Pici> b14d3: er, nm, sorry :)
[14:11] <b14d3> No worries, just trying to explore possibilities :)
[14:11] <kanliot> yeah
[14:11] <kanliot> easy to jump to conclusions
[14:12] <mustafa_> hi
[14:12] <mustafa_> hi
[14:12] <mustafa_> hi
[14:12] <FloodBot1> mustafa_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:12] <kanliot> lol
[14:13] <webdagger> I got a question
[14:13] <kanliot> ask
[14:15] <mustafa_>  mustafa: problem with canon printer
[14:15] <mustafa_> dont work
[14:16] <ilja> when i install ubuntu nothing has to be formatted before right? the ubuntu installer will take care of all that?
[14:16] <mustafa_>  mustafa:even when i configure it
[14:16] <mustafa_> a re done it
[14:16] <mustafa_>  mustafa still don t work
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> mustafa_  what is your language?
[14:17] <mustafa_> english
[14:18] <kanliot> is that your real name?
[14:18] <b14d3> ilja: If I remember correctly, then yes. Just pay attention to the prompts and it should allow you to.
[14:18] <mustafa_>  mustafa:english
[14:19] <notwist> hey guys, just wondering, is it likely possible that I could connect a domain name I own to my home IP-adress? Not only link it but actually IRC for example and have my domain be foo.com and so on.
[14:19] <Eagleman> Any suggestion on what to do if i want to use spice with virt-manager, the current qemu version does not support spice :(  compiling wasnt advised becuase other things could break
[14:19] <notwist> or is it something ISP:s tend to block
[14:20] <jrib> notwist: ask your ISP
[14:20] <notwist> jrib: problem is I don
[14:20] <notwist> t really know what to ask :)
[14:20] <kanliot> notwist, i've done it.  not that hard with free-ip.org
[14:20] <notwist> if I can have an... A domain? to one of my IP adresses?
[14:20] <jrib> notwist: ask them if you can run an http server on your connection
[14:20] <notwist> kanliot: that's not what I mean though
[14:21] <jrib> notwist: or whatever service you're thinking of running
[14:21] <notwist> ok, guys, I think you misunderstand. I already have a setup with free.dns.com -> my home ip. No problem there. I want to be able to have reverse lookups working, so that I can claim, from my computer, to come from foo.com if I own that domain.
[14:21] <notwist> so my home pc could be alpha.foo.com on the internet and so on
[14:22] <neogarfield> hello
[14:22] <neogarfield> first time at irc...
[14:22] <notwist> neogarfield: welcome :)
[14:22] <kanliot> point your foo.com to your free dns name.
[14:23] <neogarfield> thank you @notwist
[14:23] <notwist> neogarfield: no need for @-signs, thats only for twitter ;)
[14:23] <notwist> kanliot: um, i dont think that will work
[14:23] <neogarfield> ha, thanks
[14:24] <kanliot> fine.  what the heck do i know.
[14:25] <mustafa_>  mustafa: any suggestion of what to do with canon 3010 printer on ubuntu 12.10 after i configure it and the system see the printer
[14:26] <notwist> mustafa_: what is your problem
[14:26] <oskar-> notwist:  as long as you are in control of the responsible name servers for the IP space, your IP is from, you can set reverse records...
[14:26] <notwist> oskar-: well that would be the problem then I guess if I'm using a private connection
[14:27] <oskar-> notwist:  yes, i don't know of any provider supporting this. it would then very likely have to be your domain hoster and isp as well
[14:27] <mustafa_> <notwist:printer canon that dont work on the syster
 system
[14:28] <akamikeym> Hi. Can anyone tell me the license status of Unity? It's open source but is it FLOSS?
[14:28] <notwist> mustafa_: please elaborate, it doesn't tell me/us anything that it "doesn't work"
[14:29] <notwist> akamikeym: it can't be open source and not FLOSS
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> akamikeym  FLOSS means Free (Libre) Open Source Software
[14:29] <notwist> akamikeym: FLOSS software can still cost money and not be free to use
[14:29] <jrib> akamikeym: it's gpl or lgpl, I forget
[14:29] <mustafa_> it is simply dont print i give her a comand and the system tell me its processing but dont print shut
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> akamikeym  in a way, your question makes no sense
[14:29] <kilon> hello, I am using ubuntu 12.10 amd64 and when i open libreoffice document in ms office doc format , it displays untitled 1 in the title and when i change the content and press save it ask me for a filename, it also is not able to show the saved file in the same dialog
[14:30] <jrib> akamikeym: some parts are gpl, some lgpl it seems
[14:30] <mustafa_> even though i tried it on windows
[14:30] <akamikeym> Yes and therefore is different from open source, which is only necessarily openly available but not necessarily open for modification.
[14:30] <mustafa_> iam using wibi
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> akamikeym  you can always download the source ... use apt-get source
[14:31] <akamikeym> https://computerfloss.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/whats-in-a-name-free-vs-libre-vs-open-source/
[14:31] <akamikeym> PS. Thanks for the answers
[14:32] <retnum> If I add a bash script to init.d then make it executable +x it should be ran on startup yes?
[14:32] <jrib> retnum: no
[14:32] <notwist> akamikeym: "open source" almost exlusively means GPL or similar. If you claim that you are "open source" because you permit code audits but NOT modifications, you are making up your own terms.
[14:33] <jrib> !startup | retnum
[14:33] <notwist> akamikeym: ofcourse technically (semantically) "open source" means only "the source is open to see", but what people _mean_ when they say it is almost always FLOSS
[14:33] <retnum> jrib: Thank you
[14:33] <notwist> I don't think a company would call their code "open source" if they dont allow modifications.
[14:33] <iCarly> scroll nicklist * -100%
[14:33] <iCarly> scroll nicklist * -100%
[14:33] <mustafa_> want to open a print server simply how
[14:33] <iCarly> scroll nicklist * -100%
[14:33] <FloodBot1> iCarly: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:34] <lucido> how can I enable the weather(temperature) widget in the status bar?
[14:34] <notwist> mustafa_: if you try to print a document from libreoffice for example, does that work? does it show up in the print queue?
[14:34] <iCarly> scroll nicklist * +100%
[14:34] <iCarly> scroll nicklist * +100%
[14:34] <iCarly> scroll nicklist * +100%
[14:34] <FloodBot1> iCarly: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:34] <mustafa_> yes it does appear on the print queue
[14:34] <Eagleman> Any suggestion on what to do if i want to use spice with virt-manager, the current qemu version does not support spice :(  compiling wasnt advised becuase other things could break
[14:34] <mustafa_> but simply dont execute
[14:35] <notwist> mustafa_: have you installed proprietary drivers from the printer manufacturer? have you tried googling for similar problems?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> lucido: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc
[14:37] <beaver004> exit
[14:37] <compdoc> Eagleman, Im pretty sure you need a newer version of qemu-kvm than comes from the ubuntu repositories
[14:37] <lucido> ActionParsnip, hehe, quantal
[14:37] <mustafa_> well it says that that driver dont work on the newest version old driver
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> beaver004: its:    /exit
[14:38] <mustafa_> iam currently using 12.10
[14:38] <compdoc> spice isnt really needed anymore in any case
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> !info indicator-weather
[14:38] <untaken> how do I get a sshf mount point to mount, after the network is up?
[14:38] <mustafa_> is the is any solution
[14:38] <blami> mustafa_: sorry I had to leave for meeting
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> lucido: sudo apt-get install indicator-weather
[14:38] <lucido> ActionParsnip, thank you
[14:39] <oskar-> untaken:  if you have the mount definition in /etc/fstab, try the option "_netdev" (first char is an underscore)
[14:40] <untaken> oskar-: thank you, will take a look at that :)
[14:41] <virtu> Hi guys... I am having some troubles with Windows 8 pre-installed and ubuntu installs... I already made my notebook boot from USB and can install Ubuntu by something else option and creating partition for everything... but cant boot into ubuntu =(
[14:41] <virtu> I put the loader at /dev/sda6 -> BIOS Boot Partition
[14:47] <notwist> Just discovered "/ignore -channels #ubuntu * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS" - phew!
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> notwist  you forget MODES ;)
[14:51] <notwist> I think I can live with that as long as I don't have to see all the joins and parts :)
[14:53] <roasted_> Question - If my HDD is named storage, and I plug it in, it'll mount to /media/storage. But let's say another computer is rsyncing data to this particular system. The trick is, this system is rsyncing data over as the root user, and the destination is /media/storage. Question of the day - if I unplug the "storage" drive, would the rsync script fail due to /media/storage not existing? Or would it create the storage directory within /
[14:53] <roasted_> data over anyway since it's running as root?
[14:53] <notwist> roasted_: I'm pretty sure it would fail.
[14:54] <notwist> roasted_: I'm pretty sure /media/storage doesn't disappear because you disconnect the drive, correct?
[14:54] <notwist> roasted_: however it's easy to experiment, just unplug the disk and try writing something to /media/storage
[14:54] <RiXtEr> hey guys does anyone know if vim can have a header bar that will tell me what file is currently open? (or even change the title of the terminal window to let me know?)
[14:54] <roasted_> notwist: if it's mounted by fstab, /media/storage will always exist there. If it's simply named storage and you plug it in, it'll appear, then unplugged disappear. Try it with a flash drive and you'll see.
[14:54] <roasted_> notwist: yeah, I actually just thought I could test this with a flash drive...
[14:55] <roasted_> notwist: for a second I was thinking I was out of luck without my external, but I don't need that for the real experiment
[14:55] <compdoc> if  /media/storage exists even when the drive is unplugged, you'll end up filling up your OS drive
[14:55] <roasted_> compdoc: exactly.
[14:56] <roasted_> compdoc: my concern is... what if the drive isn't in fstab, so if I unplug it, "storage" (within /media) disappears... would the rsync script still create storage and dump the data on the OS drive since I'm running it as root? Or would it fail with storage being gone?
[14:56] <notwist> compdoc roasted_ so if it's mounted in fstab and the folder is still there even though it is unplugged, will it still write?
[14:56] <roasted_> notwist: yes, because if the drive is unmounted, yet the directory is still there, it'll assume it's on the primary drive.
[14:57] <roasted_> notwist: for example, let's say I have two drives. an 80GB OS drive, and a 1TB data drive at /media/storage. Technically /media/storage is on the 80GB drive unless I have the 1TB specifically mounted as such via fstab.
[14:57] <roasted_> notwist: so if the 1TB drive gets fried and doesn't mount, the /media/storage directory would thereby be empty, and currently reside on the 80GB OS drive.
[14:58] <notwist> roasted_: I understand all of that, I'm just thinking if fstab ever gets involved and says "something else is supposed to be here"
[14:58] <roasted_> notwist: if your OS drive gets 100% and you reboot, you won't be able to boot properly (been there). Just need to boot to a live USB/CD instance, mount the drive, and delete the data.
[14:58] <compdoc> notwist, you can prevent issues like that by writing to a specific folder inside /media/storage, is that if it disappears, it wont write
[14:58] <mustafa_> how to have a root privelige on command lie
[14:58] <compdoc> sudo su
[14:58] <oskar-> mustafa_:  sudo -i
[14:58] <roasted_> compdoc: I'm not understanding how a folder one layer deeper would matter. Nothing would disappear if it's in fstab. Unless I'm missing osmething?
[14:58] <mustafa_> tahnks
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> mustafa_  or simply sudo [command]
[14:59] <notwist> roasted_: it disappears if the mounted disk is gone obviously
[14:59] <notwist> roasted_: if you mount /dev/hda as /lulz then you wont be able to access /lulz/videos if /dev/hda is gone
[15:00] <formation3> problem de script d'enregistrement sur serveur marsnet
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[15:00] <roasted_> notwist: oh, I see. the mount point would still exist (/media/storage) but it would be empty.
[15:01] <notwist> roasted_: yep
[15:01] <roasted_> notwist: good thought. I'll make some changes to my setup when I get home!
[15:03] <roasted_> I can't believe in all of the years I've used Linux I never gave that a thought... appreciate it notwist and compdoc for bringing it up.
[15:04] <phunyguy_work> roasted_, we are all students, ALL the time.  :)
[15:06] <budmaester> Can I use this cchannel for support on Xubuntu?
[15:06] <phunyguy_work> budmaester, sure, but #xubuntu is more appropriate.
[15:06] <budmaester> Thanks. Bye
[15:06] <roasted_> phunyguy_work: good philosophy. :D
[15:07] <phunyguy_work> I hope budmaester made it to #xubuntu... I don't see him there yet.
[15:08] <phunyguy_work> wonder if he got banned from the channel or something
[15:08] <slnls> hello there. quick question: any hint and answer is much appreciated: searching for a safe solution to get rid of ICQ. Are there safe and Open Source Alternatives between two Computers. Ubuntu in particular?
[15:08] <phunyguy_work> slnls,, yes, using salut.
[15:08] <ciphered> can XEN be installed/managed all in command line? or it needs a grpahical interface like virtualbox?
[15:08] <phunyguy_work> if you are just talking abotu two computers on the lan anyway
[15:10] <phunyguy_work> slnls, also if the computers are not on the same lan, you can install Pidgin with the OTR plugin, and use something like Google Talk.
[15:10] <ciphered> can xen be installed/managed all in command line? or it needs a grpahical interface like virtualbox?
[15:10] <phunyguy_work> !patience ciphered
[15:10] <phunyguy_work> !patience | ciphered
[15:11] <Raion> I have a question... It probably is a noob question, but please bear with me... What I want to ask is about Web services... Web services is all about calling a php or some other code file using the http proxy....right?
[15:12] <phunyguy_work> !info vmm
[15:12] <phunyguy_work> thats not it...
[15:13] <phunyguy_work> !info virt-manager
[15:14] <cntb> hi just FYI not trolling .can visit  new https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/107299007624972266094 ubuntu community .we all google right?  just discovered new community seeya
[15:14] <cntb> bbl
[15:14] <phunyguy_work> !spam
[15:14] <phunyguy_work> hmm
[15:14] <phunyguy_work> cntb, please don't do that again
[15:14] <cntb> no spam rleax
[15:15] <diego> hello
[15:15] <Jodorowsky> hi, when i try to install the adobe flash plugin from the website i get the error "unknown channel 'quantal-partner'"
[15:15] <diego> hello hello hello
[15:15] <phunyguy_work> cntb, that is offtopic.
[15:15] <slnls> phunyguy_work: Thanks. I only found SILC. Reading now. The computers are 200 kilometers away. Its me chatting with girlfriend but ICQ: donotwant.jpg. Thanks for the answers. *gives cookies to channel
[15:15] <cntb> ok  ok phunyguy_work
[15:15] <phunyguy_work> !ask | diego
[15:15] <cntb> definitely offtopic phunyguy_work apologize
[15:16] <phunyguy_work> !ot | cntb
[15:16] <diego> anyone using hybride evolution ?
[15:16] <cntb> ty phunyguy_work
[15:17] <phunyguy_work> !anyone | diego
[15:17] <roasted_> notwist, compdoc, it looks like that doesn't work... burying it a layer deeper.
[15:17] <slnls> btw using pidgin would definetly help. I see salut (bonjour) is in there. I want to avoid ICQ at any cost.
[15:17] <Guest63216> hi
[15:17] <Guest63216> any expert around?
[15:18] <Guest63216> i have certain querries to ask?
[15:18] <phunyguy_work> slnls, then there is yoru answer.  the OTR plugin should be available, if not it is in the repos
[15:18] <b14d3> !ask Guest63216
[15:18] <b14d3> Aw, forgot the pipe symbol
[15:18] <b14d3> Oh well, don't ask to ask a question, just ask :)
[15:18] <phunyguy_work> !ask | Guest63216
[15:18] <Eagleman> !package libvirt
[15:18] <Eagleman> !libvirt
[15:18] <Guest63216> lol right
[15:18] <phunyguy_work> Eagleman !info
[15:18] <phunyguy_work> !info libvirt
[15:18] <slnls> phunyguy_work: OTR uses ICQ. And i want to use something else. Is this not advised?
[15:19] <phunyguy_work> OTR = off the record.
[15:19] <phunyguy_work> it's a plugin that encrypts IIRC
[15:19] <phunyguy_work> has nothing to do with IRC.
[15:19] <Eagleman> !packages
[15:19] <phunyguy_work> ERRR, ICQ**
[15:19] <Guest63216> and prolly its outdated version
[15:19] <Guest63216> i have installed ubuntu 6
[15:19] <Guest63216> now i try to update softwares but im unable to
[15:19] <diego> why ubuntu 6 ?
[15:20] <phunyguy_work> Eagleman, you can /msg ubottu if you would like to query a bunch at once to test.
[15:20] <opalepatrick> using 12.10 unity - anyhone noticed a problem with Firefox not wanting to minimise or lose focus. If I move away from Firefox, it immediately returns to the top.
[15:20] <phunyguy_work> Guest63216 - that version is EOL
[15:20] <phunyguy_work> !eol | Guest63216
[15:21] <opalepatrick> this is without extensions on a new install but alos happened previously
[15:21] <phunyguy_work> opalepatrick, are you using anything like devilspie?
[15:22] <opalepatrick> not that I am aware phunyguy_work
[15:22] <phunyguy_work> ok.  That is strange behavior that I haven't seen yet, and I have 5 machines running Quantal.
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> Guest63216  better download ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10, create cd or usb stick and install that
[15:23] <almoxarife> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/how-to-get-netflix-streaming-on-ubuntu-1210/4019 <-- that should be a !netflix thing
[15:23] <almoxarife> !netflix
[15:23] <almoxarife> nevermind :)
[15:24] <opalepatrick> It is strange phunyguy_work - makes it unusable. Had it on an update to 12.10 and a new install (same /home mind)
[15:24] <BoozeWooz> from hi:P
[15:24] <opalepatrick> Wonder if it is worth creating a new profile... might do that
[15:24] <qasim_> i have aqn old laptop (processor=1.7ghz & RAM = 1 GB) please advise my best light weight version of linux...
[15:24] <BoozeWooz> take LXDE
[15:24] <BoozeWooz> or EDE
[15:25] <BoozeWooz> also, 1.7Ghz 1GB ram isnt old :P
[15:25] <qasim_> EDE?
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> qasim_  try xubuntu or lubuntu
[15:25] <qasim_> well it indeed is
[15:25] <phunyguy_work> !lubuntu | qasim_
[15:25] <almoxarife> qasim_: xubuntu or lubuntu, xfce / lxde
[15:25] <BoozeWooz> http://equinox-project.org/
[15:25] <phunyguy_work> !xubuntu | qasim_
[15:25] <BoozeWooz> TBH, xfce is too bloated now to be concidered lightweight really
[15:25] <qasim_> atleast old for using winows 7 OS
[15:26] <qasim_> ty phuny
[15:26] <qasim_> someone else also told me to use xubuntu
[15:26] <BoozeWooz> hmm lubuntu is more lightweight
[15:26] <diego>  use bodhi or xubuntu
[15:26] <phunyguy_work> xubuntu will be fine with thos specs.
[15:26] <BoozeWooz> just get usb stick and put unetbootin
[15:26] <almoxarife> qasim_: lxde is a bit nicer looking, my opinion
[15:26] <phunyguy_work> diego, bodhi is not supported here.
[15:26] <BoozeWooz> make some nice list of +- 5 distro and test it out
[15:27] <qasim_> lxde hmmm
[15:27] <phunyguy_work> please dont suggest other distros that are not ubuntu-supported.
[15:27] <qasim_>  right
[15:27] <BoozeWooz> Ubuntu (Lubuntu/xubuntu), mepis(antix) etc etc
[15:27] <almoxarife> qasim_: the mascot of xfce is a rat, need i say more?
[15:27] <BoozeWooz> i run here xubuntu hmm
[15:27] <qasim_> almox ty
[15:27] <qasim_> im reading
[15:27] <phunyguy_work> !helpful | BoozeWooz
[15:28] <qasim_> i will try to see all these versions
[15:28] <BoozeWooz> thankx
[15:28] <BoozeWooz> though, the ram usage is +- 120MB clean
[15:28] <phunyguy_work> what was that command...
[15:28] <BoozeWooz> i cant say about it.. being ligtweight :/
[15:28] <qasim_> but i personally feel xbuntu woul be good
[15:28] <almoxarife> qasim_: :(
[15:29] <phunyguy_work> !poll
[15:29] <qasim_> almoxa ..do you have any reservation about xubuntu?
[15:29] <diego> this is ubuntu channel
[15:29] <BoozeWooz> look at from examples, DSL oorr..puppy, tinycore
[15:29] <phunyguy_work> qasim_, that is for you
[15:29] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, please stop suggesting unsupported distros.
[15:29] <BoozeWooz> oki
[15:30] <BoozeWooz> still, wait
[15:30] <qasim_> im a new linux user and i happened o install ubuntu 6 which is quite old thats why i needed opinion
[15:30] <wdp> qasim_, so just update it?
[15:30] <phunyguy_work> !eol | qasim_
[15:30] <wdp> :D
[15:30] <BoozeWooz> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_desktop_vitals&num=1
[15:30] <BoozeWooz> look there, its comparison mem usage
[15:30] <qasim_> well if it was that easy
[15:30] <diego> thats old ubuntu 6
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> qasim_: why not just reinstall with a newer release, upgrading will take a LONG time
[15:30] <Pici> qasim_: that release is not supported.
[15:30] <BoozeWooz> and some cool pix too
[15:31] <qasim_> one more thing
[15:31] <BoozeWooz> hmm interestings, didnt think theres so few differanse
[15:31] <BoozeWooz> http://www.phoronix.com/data/img/results/linux_desktop_vitals/2.png
[15:31] <BoozeWooz> heres ^
[15:31] <qasim_> does xubuntu support flash player adobe reader and java jre?
[15:31] <BoozeWooz> all yes
[15:31] <phunyguy_work> qasim_, yeas
[15:31] <BoozeWooz> they are support
[15:31] <phunyguy_work> yes*
[15:31] <qasim_> kool
[15:32] <BoozeWooz> but i think java needs some hackeries
[15:32] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, the real differences would be between the different flavors of ubuntu.
[15:32] <qasim_> ty xperts
[15:32] <BoozeWooz> theres oracle java (bad), but openjre /jdk would work
[15:32] <BoozeWooz> without prolbmes
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> qasim_: yes, all the official releases will play flash and java
[15:32] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, there is nothing wrong with Oracle Java.
[15:32] <BoozeWooz> there is
[15:32] <qasim_> im gonna use java runtime environment so i guess that wont cause much trouble
[15:32] <phunyguy_work> however, it is not used in Ubuntu
[15:32] <paperplane> I have 2 NICs. NetworkManager always connects to the same network on each NIC when I boot. Can it be set to connect to the two different networks on every login?
[15:32] <BoozeWooz> if you see how bad java is supported by them
[15:33] <BoozeWooz> but yes, also license is sub-optimal
[15:33] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, that is !ot.
[15:33] <BoozeWooz> ?
[15:33] <phunyguy_work> !ot | BoozeWooz
[15:34] <BoozeWooz> uhh ok soz
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> qasim_: its fine, there is a PPA for easy install of Oracle Java
[15:34] <wdp> ActionParsnip, link?
[15:34] <BoozeWooz> why do that, openjdk better
[15:34] <wdp> ActionParsnip, actually i was looking for that
[15:34] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, please stop.
[15:34] <almoxarife> !oracle
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> wdp: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=java+ppa
[15:35] <almoxarife> duckduck :0
[15:35] <mustafa_> how to move a file from downloads directory to another directory using root privilege
[15:35] <BoozeWooz> su first then do it?
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: there are features that some people need, one isn't better than the other, they are just different
[15:35] <BoozeWooz> like sudo pcmanfm
[15:35] <wdp> ActionParsnip, if it was that easy :D
[15:35] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: you got me hooked on that search engine
[15:35] <BoozeWooz> and then you can do it like that
[15:35] <phunyguy_work> mustafa_, use the sudo command with the mv command in a terminal
[15:35] <BoozeWooz> or sudo nautilus
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> wdp: it is, I just showed you how easy it is
[15:35] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, NEVER run a GUI app with sudo.
[15:35] <qasim_> im downloading  xubuntu 12.10 ... its an ISO image..would i have to make a CD of it before installing
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: sudo is not to be used with gui apps like nautilus
[15:36] <BoozeWooz> hmm then
[15:36] <BoozeWooz> su -i and
[15:36] <wdp> ic, sorry. google gives me different results.
[15:36] <almoxarife> qasim_: or usb
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> qasim_  or an usb stick
[15:36] <BoozeWooz> then nautilus
[15:36] <phunyguy_work> !info gksudo
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: gksudo nautilus
[15:36] <phunyguy_work> errm...
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> wdp: google is garbage
[15:36] <almoxarife> gksu nautilus --no-desktop
[15:36] <qasim_> my lappy is old ...doesnt support usb
[15:36] <slnls> phunyguy_work:So OTR is the security. Salute is the protocol? I can not find how to set up salute for the protocol. thanks again. *gives more cookies to channel.
[15:36] <BoozeWooz> what could be happened wrong if i sudo nautlius?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> qasim_: you can boot DVD without issue
[15:37] <slnls> BoozeWooz: it is gksudo nautilus
[15:37] <phunyguy_work> slnls, it may be called bonjour in Pidgin, my apologies
[15:37] <opalepatrick> thanks for the help, phunyguy_work - your comments made me think change profile, and it worked :-)
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> !gksudo | BoozeWooz
[15:37] <BoozeWooz> hmm interestings, fenks
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> BoozeWooz  but gksudo nautilus is dangerous and not recommended
[15:38] <phunyguy_work> opalepatrick, no problem :)
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: sudo is ONLY for GUI apps, it does not set up a suitable environment for X apps. It will garbage the ownershipof files in $HOME and make sudo not work. This will make users need to boot to root recovery mode to chown it back
[15:38] <BoozeWooz> o
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: this is easily avoided if you just use OS correctly.
[15:38] <phunyguy_work> ActionParsnip, typo
[15:38] <phunyguy_work> you meant terminal.
[15:38] <llutz> ActionParsnip: <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: sudo is ONLY for GUI apps???
[15:38] <wdp> ActionParsnip, s/GUI/CLI  ? :)
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: you can technically use gksudo for both CLI and GUI commands
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> llutz: yeah, typo
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> wdp: d'o
[15:39] <Guest27090> Command to check hexadecimal value of string via termianl?
[15:39] <BoozeWooz> hmm nevermind all this hassle, i run always as root anyways, problem solved
[15:39] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, that is not AT ALL recommended.
[15:39] <phunyguy_work> please stop saying things like that.
[15:40] <bigbang> what do i need if ubuntu 12.10 pc has no access to internet untill after i install the wireless drivers.. for that I have a linksys wusb300n ?.. ndiswrapper ?..
[15:40] <llutz> Guest27090: echo yourstring|hexdump
[15:40] <Guest27090> Suppose i want to know hexa value of green.How to know it via a command
[15:40] <BoozeWooz> fine, i have some questions then: how to downgrade ubuntu from 12.04 to 10.04?
[15:40] <Guest5733> hi everyone. I just updated to kernel 3.5.0-18 and my broadcom BCM43225 does not work anymore. I tried to install the additional drivers (STA) but that does not work anymore. Using ubuntu 12.04. is there a solution for things like this?
[15:40] <Guest27090> llutz: Thanks !
[15:40] <BoozeWooz> i did some script but it didnt work so well
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Guest27090: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/6066/convert-ascii-string-to-hex
[15:40] <BoozeWooz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto <--- not so worky
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> BoozeWooz  switching off security turns your pc into a windows machine, nobody wants windows
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: you clean install if you want the earlier version
[15:40] <almoxarife> i tend to freeze ssh x11 forwarding sessions with gksu though, have not figured out why, sudo does not crash it though, with graphics apps
[15:40] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, install 10.04 fresh.
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: Lucid desktop only has less than 6 months support left. I wouldn't bother with it
[15:41] <Guest27090> ActionParsnip: Thanks@'
[15:41] <BoozeWooz> ok then, the problem is: i have server with 10.04. if i compile something at my pc with 12.04 it complains about glibc incompatabilities...
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: why do you want to use Lucid?
[15:41] <Dooma> hi.. i have a issue when i compile nux.. i recieve this error "'shared_ptr' in namespace 'std' does not name a type" .. can you help me ?
[15:42] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, upgrade the server?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: yes, the glibc versions are different
[15:42] <BoozeWooz> i did that but, i cant get oracle java or openjdk to work at all...
[15:42] <BoozeWooz> (its a minecraft server)
[15:42] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, if you did that, the server would no longer be 10.04
[15:43] <BoozeWooz> did what?
[15:43] <phunyguy_work> or did you mean you did and reverted back?
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: did you install oracle java via the handy ppa?
[15:43] <BoozeWooz> the server is 10.04. i upgraded it to 12.04 for a day, and i couldnt run anything
[15:43] <BoozeWooz> so i downgraded it back to 10.04
[15:43] <BoozeWooz> PPA?
[15:43] <phunyguy_work> !ppa
[15:43] <BoozeWooz> there's 2 ppa's i used.. some web8 i remember
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: Lucid server has another 2 years in it.
[15:43] <BoozeWooz> and hmmm some else i cant remember
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: why upgrade if it wasn't broken?
[15:44] <zalgor> Hello. In which file is the last user desktop manager selection stored?
[15:44] <BoozeWooz> i upgraded desktop, and couldnt run to GLIBC
[15:44] <BoozeWooz> so i upgraded server too, and nothing worked..
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> zalgor: the default is LightDM, that will probably be the last one if you changed it
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: is the only thing not working the Minecraft server?
[15:46] <BoozeWooz> svn
[15:46] <zalgor> ActionParsnip, I don't mean the session manager, but desktop manager like kde, gnome and so on. I
[15:46] <BoozeWooz> but its probably due to some miss configurations, that subversion thing
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> zalgor: thats the desktop environment, not the desktop manager
[15:47] <BoozeWooz> so ok, what happens after the 2 years? or 6 months for desktop (10.04?)
[15:47] <BoozeWooz> no more updates?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> zalgor: let me search
[15:47] <blami> zalgor: ~/.dmrc (its user specific thingie)
[15:48] <roasted_> notwist: hey not sure if you're still here, but yeah that won't fly. It seems to be writing the files/directory if it doesn't exist. I assum ethis is because I'm running as root.
[15:48] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, precisely.
[15:48] <phunyguy_work> !eol | BoozeWooz
[15:48] <BoozeWooz> hmm well thats quite bad
[15:49] <BoozeWooz> what if i installed server edition 10.04, and some desktop env. will i still get updates for 2 years?
[15:49] <ping__> hy ubuntu user
[15:49] <zalgor> blami, that looks good. thank you, blami and ActionParsnip
[15:49] <BoozeWooz> ei
[15:49] <ping__> how to run hackshield on linux
[15:50] <ping__> imposible, yeah
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> blami: thanks
[15:50] <BoozeWooz> hackshield, that anticheat creps?
[15:50] <ping__> no
[15:50] <joint2k> i found out how to dual boot ubuntu and windows 8
[15:50] <BoozeWooz> :D
[15:50] <slnls> ok I found xmpp / jabber for pidgin and otr. which is optimal and better then bonjour imho. thanks for the help. *gives cookies to channel
[15:50] <ping__> games indonesia poinblank.exe
[15:50] <ping__> imposible running on linux
[15:51] <BoozeWooz> yes, hackshield is anticheat
[15:51] <joint2k> it seems the ubuntu 12 series doesnt have the proper drivers. you can install ubuntu 11.10, it will detect windows 8.. and you can upgrade ubuntu from there
[15:51] <ping__> yeah
[15:51] <BoozeWooz> you cannot run it because it has KERNEL module
[15:51] <ping__> how to fix
[15:51] <BoozeWooz> and, wine doesnt handle ring0 so well iirc
[15:51] <BoozeWooz> you cant
[15:51] <phunyguy_work> !wine | ping__
[15:51] <BoozeWooz> its the same with some other anticheat such as Punkbusters and
[15:51] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, it is offtopic.
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> ping__: check the appdb for compatibility
[15:52] <BoozeWooz> ja k, some programs wont run under wine ubuntu
[15:52] <ping__> BoozeWooz, i hope can running, because, it is a barrier for Indonesian people, do not use linux
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> ping__: or contact the developers
[15:52] <ping__> ActionParsnip, imposible dude
[15:52] <operador> hi, I have a question.... how can I install ubuntu on laptops with windows 8... it has a protected BIOS
[15:52] <BoozeWooz> :DDD bring bak desktop
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> ping__: it may be a deal breaker then
[15:53] <operador> hi, I have a question.... how can I install ubuntu on laptops with windows 8... it has a protected BIOS
[15:53] <gen> hello there
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> operador: we saw the first time
[15:53] <BoozeWooz> hmm the server version has different repositories?
[15:53] <operador> ActionParsnip,  sorry
[15:53] <phunyguy_work> !patience | operador
[15:53] <ping__> just because hackshield problem can not walk on linux, many Indonesian people who use linux, can you solve this problem, people also like to use linux Indonesia
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> operador: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[15:54] <operador> ActionParsnip, thanls alot..
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> ping__: what does it do?
[15:54] <ping__> until now no one has been able to solve this problem,
[15:54] <gen> i have a "crackeling sound"
[15:54] <gen> i am running lubuntu 12.10 on an eeepc 1000he
[15:55] <ping__> no respon
[15:55] <BoozeWooz> ?
[15:55] <gen> i am experiencing a cracking sound coming from the speakers
[15:56] <gen> even when an external speaker is connected
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> ping__: 2nd time, what does the app do?
[15:56] <BoozeWooz> actionparsnip: hackshield?
[15:56] <b14d3> gen: I would venture to guess that this is not an Ubuntu issue. This sounds hardware related.
[15:56] <ping__> this game http://download.gemscool.com/pb/PBsetupNov132012.exe
[15:56] <ping__> from indonesia
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> ping__: so its just a casual game?
[15:57] <ping__> playing game dude
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> gen: what is the output of:  wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[15:57] <Monotoko> ping__ ... you're trying to run an exe on Linux?
[15:57] <BoozeWooz> tru wine
[15:57] <phunyguy_work> !wine | ping__
[15:57] <ping__> hackshield can run, I've tried it
[15:57] <ping__> can't run dude
[15:58] <Monotoko> ping__ ... it runs? Natively?!
[15:58] <mustafa_> how can i move any file to directory var /www
[15:58] <phunyguy_work> anything beyond that in wine, is a question for the #winehq channel.
[15:58] <gen> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=f2442886a03741dc4faf96d9aa5b96fcbe39483f
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> ping__: its not listed in the appdb
[15:58] <ping__> it's a problem for Indonesia, so they are still using windows, it is unfortunate not only because it
[15:58] <b14d3> mustafa_: Are you trying by command line or by gui?
[15:58] <mustafa_> command line
[15:58] <BoozeWooz> hmm .. if i install ubuntu server 10.04 WITH gui will i still get 2 year support?
[15:58] <Monotoko> ping__, then lobby the developers to make it work with Linux
[15:59] <mustafa_> or even with gui
[15:59] <b14d3> mustafa_: sudo mv <from directory> <to directory>
[15:59] <BedMan> mustafa_: mv startfile /var/www/finishfile
[15:59] <Monotoko> there isn't much we can do to make something run on Linux that isn't designed for Linux... there's various ways we can try (wine) but it'd be far easier if the developer releases a Linux version#
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> gen: try:    killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*     wait 10 seconds and reboot
[15:59] <ping__> ActionParsnip, ya, I mean, come together to solve this problem, hundreds or even thousands of people in Indonesia, do not use linux just because of this issue
[15:59] <BoozeWooz> so dualboot
[16:00] <gen> statet no process found
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> ping__: its a 'problem' for anyone wanting to play the game, not just Indonesia
[16:00] <jrib> BedMan: you get 3 years of support on 10.04 desktop  since release.  Desktop support will for 10.04 ends in April 2013
[16:00] <BoozeWooz> and use wintendo for gams =)
[16:00] <jrib> s/will//
[16:00] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, the command is ubuntu-support-status on the server
[16:00] <ping__> unfortunately not
[16:00] <Monotoko> ping__ - dualboot, use a virtual machine, or face the fact that most games are developed for Windows
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> ping__: you may need a virtual Windows OS runninig in Virtualbox if you really need the app
[16:00] <jrib> BoozeWooz: you get 3 years of support on 10.04 desktop  since release.  Desktop support for 10.04 ends in April 2013
[16:00] <mustafa_> can i move it with gui
[16:00] <ping__> is not there a developer who thought this issue
[16:00] <BedMan> jrib: I'd heard that
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> ping__: you'll need a bit of system power, a windows license and media
[16:01] <b14d3> mustafa_: You should be able to, but it may ask you for the root password, depending on what you're moving.
[16:01] <Monotoko> ping__ - the developers of the application, they're the only people with the source code
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> ping__: Contact the devs
[16:01] <Monotoko> they can release a Linux version if these thousands of people put pressure on them to do so
[16:01] <ping__> ActionParsnip, no, This game is very tough run in virtual
[16:01] <bugiam> is it possible to force an application to a specific resolution? maybe via another application or via a work around?
[16:01] <phunyguy_work> ping__, we are trying to help you.  you need to contact the devs of the game.
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> ping__: then you'll need to dual boot
[16:01] <ping__> and I've tried it, same not run
[16:02] <BoozeWooz> ubuntu-support-status
[16:02] <BoozeWooz> Traceback (most recent call last):
[16:02] <BoozeWooz>   File "/usr/bin/ubuntu-support-status", line 120, in <module>
[16:02] <BoozeWooz>     (still_supported, support_str) = get_maintenance_status(cache, pkg.name, support_tag)
[16:02] <BoozeWooz>   File "/usr/bin/ubuntu-support-status", line 41, in get_maintenance_status
[16:02] <BoozeWooz>     raise Exception("No date tag found")
[16:02] <FloodBot1> BoozeWooz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:02] <phunyguy_work> *sigh*
[16:02] <b14d3> ActionParsnip: For the crackling speakers issue, was that something you knew, or could you link an article for me to read up on what that did?
[16:02] <ping__> phunyguy_work, the devs use windows, not linux
[16:03] <BoozeWooz> ops, sorry. >< 12.04 is beug. im too install 10.04
[16:03] <BedMan> bugiam: most x11 apps take a geom argument
[16:03] <phunyguy_work> ping__, then you need to contact them.  running a windows game in wine is supported in the #winehq channel. Please join that channel and ask your question.
[16:03] <Monotoko> ping__ - Linux and Windows are very different... you won't make a Windows app run in Linux, or eve a Linux app run in Windows unless the source code is released
[16:03] <ping__> until this moment no one can
[16:03] <bugiam> BedMan: thanks, i'll look into that
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> b14d3: its my first thing to try with sound issues. Set default settings
[16:03] <Monotoko> it's not possible for us to help you
[16:03] <Monotoko> it's not that we won't... it's that we can;t
[16:03] <b14d3> ActionParsnip: Cool. I'll have to try and find/remember that for the future. Thanks.
[16:04] <BoozeWooz> hmm any differens between i386 and amd64?
[16:04] <ping__> hmm, very imposible, i think
[16:04] <phunyguy_work> agreed, ping__
[16:04] <BoozeWooz> i have tried amd64 but its not work even thou i have amd
[16:04] <qasim_> what is the best procedure to write iso image on a blank CD
[16:04] <Monotoko> yes, unless you get the developers to release the source code or a compiled Linux version... it's impossible
[16:05] <phunyguy_work> !info brasero | qasim_
[16:05] <ping__> phunyguy_work, :D
[16:05] <qasim_> thanks
[16:05] <xeocs> excuse me, i installed server edition on a flash driver, but it cannot identify other machine's ethernet board, help, please!!
[16:05] <BoozeWooz> helps xD mike phelps
[16:06] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, please stop with the offtopic outbursts.
[16:06] <BoozeWooz> try lshw-gtk
[16:06] <BoozeWooz> there you can see, all you're pci device, maybe its not even detected
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> qasim_: use a cd burning app, there is no best app, just use one and tell it to burn the ISO as an image
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: there are 32bit AMD CPUs
[16:07] <qasim_> olrite action
[16:07] <BoozeWooz> hmm how to see
[16:07] <qasim_> actually being a new user linux is overwhelming for me
[16:07] <BoozeWooz> just go to ubuntu software center and put there you're searches
[16:07] <phunyguy_work> qasim_, it is a learning curve, just be patient and stick with it.  :)
[16:07] <xeocs> em,anyone help?
[16:07] <qasim_> specially a user who is all spoon fed by friendly softwares
[16:08] <phunyguy_work> !patience xeocs
[16:08] <phunyguy_work> !patience | xeocs
[16:08] <phunyguy_work> grrrr...  keep forgetting the pipe
[16:08] <BoozeWooz> xeocs, get that gtk app i wrote, its good and shows all devices
[16:08] <xeocs> oh, thanks, i 'll try it!
[16:08] <BoozeWooz> :P
[16:09] <BoozeWooz> hmm it says K6
[16:09] <phunyguy_work> xeocs, go into /etc/network/interfaces and change eth0 to whatever the device is on the new machine
[16:09] <BoozeWooz> i686? works on i386 too?
[16:09] <BoozeWooz> where i get ubuntu i686?
[16:10] <phunyguy_work> xeocs then sudo service networking restart
[16:10] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: i ran that script you linked, mine came up blank on alsa.libs, i dont have sound issues though, script quirk?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: k6 is 32bit
[16:10] <BoozeWooz> they need to fix tis stuff its confusing..
[16:10] <BoozeWooz> just make 1 version for all..
[16:10] <xeocs> mmm, i will try, but it is a little bit hard for some newbies like me, anyway thx!!
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: should support i686 ok
[16:11] <phunyguy_work> xeocs, https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html is a good reference
[16:11] <BoozeWooz> i shall try this i386 then! fenks
[16:12] <souliaq> I have this script: http://pastebin.com/bfNSYcS2, when I run this from terminal intips works fine, but when it autostart (init.d), the field IP appears blank.
[16:12] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, you have been warned about the offtopic outbursts.  I understand this is tough stuff to understand.
[16:12] <xeocs> phunyguy_work: alot thx
[16:12] <souliaq> the problem is the behavior of the script is different whe it "autostarts" that when I run this manually.
[16:13] <Ashleyludlow> Gtg
[16:14] <BoozeWooz> hmmm.. i forgot this pc's cd-rom hsa been broken. is there another way to install ubuntu thanCD?
[16:14] <BoozeWooz> like floppydrive or something? i still have it working here
[16:14] <phunyguy_work> !liveusb | BoozeWooz
[16:14] <b14d3> You're quick with those phunyguy_work
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> souliaq: that's a lot of text
[16:15] <phunyguy_work> I am a bot.
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: there is a floppy image to then make the PC boot uSB
[16:15] <phunyguy_work> oh right, he said K6
[16:15] <BoozeWooz> no
[16:15] <phunyguy_work> isn't there a network install as well?
[16:15] <BoozeWooz> i have LAN, so maybe there a LAn minimal installer
[16:15] <BoozeWooz> and then put internets? from there ubuntu?
[16:16] <phunyguy_work> !netinstall | BoozeWooz
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> souliaq: if you put that in a script (make the top line #!/bin/bash     you can then add the script in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line, it will run before the login screen loads
[16:16] <BoozeWooz> because my pc has USB, but doesnt suppot boot over usb
[16:17] <phunyguy_work> and there you have it.
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: yes but it can boot floppy, then the system will be told to load the kernel from the USB and it will boot the USB
[16:17] <phunyguy_work> He's gone, ActionParsnip
[16:18] <BoozeWooz_> :p
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> souliaq: its a tonne of text for what is actually outputted
[16:18] <BoozeWooz_> mm yes
[16:18] <xeocs> i thought you could choose a startup dev by pressing f12, that doesn't help with your maching?
[16:18] <souliaq> ActionParsnip, I don't understand what do you mean.
[16:18] <souliaq> The output is not long
[16:19] <phunyguy_work> xeocs, his machine was too old to see USB device as a boot option.  Moot point now anyway.
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> souliaq: put the text you pastebinned in a text file and make the first line:   #!/bin/bash      you can then mark the file as executable and you will have a script
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> souliaq: you can then add it above the 'exit 0' line in /etc/rc.local and it will run at boot
[16:20] <xeocs> mmm, i am impressed..
[16:21] <Wassermelone> from hi
[16:22] <Wassermelone> so ye, perhaps i could hook this harddrive up to my other pc and install ubuntu there
[16:22] <Wassermelone> would that work?
[16:22] <souliaq> ActionParsnip, I know that, that's not the problem, the problem is, different behavior, look this:
[16:22] <Wassermelone> ;o
[16:22] <Wassermelone> ^^
[16:22] <souliaq> result when autorun: IP:  Fecha: Mon Dec 10 11:20:50 COT 2012
[16:22] <Wassermelone> :DD wrong person xDDDD
[16:22] <llutz> souliaq: try " .... intips { LANG=C /sbin/ifconfig |grep ....."
[16:23] <souliaq> result when I try manually: IP: eth0: <IP_ADDRESS> lo: <IP_ADDRESS> Fecha: Mon Dec 10 11:22:42 COT 2012
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> souliaq: even if you run it from /etc/rc.local ?
[16:23] <jrib> souliaq: I think you should say /why/ you are doing this.  There may be a better way to achieve whatever your real goal is
[16:23] <souliaq> Yes when I run it from /etc/rc.local, and even when I call this from .desktop file located in .config/autostart!!!
[16:25] <souliaq> jrib maybe but, anyway this is not normal, why the behavior is not the same, when a SH autostarts, that when I call it manually.
[16:25] <jrib> souliaq: probably because your script gets called before interfaces get set up...
[16:26] <qasim_> i have downloaded brasero.... when i try to open its opening in archive manager...i dont know how to install/run it ..help please..
[16:26] <souliaq> jrib, yes,  I going to try put a sleep
[16:26] <jrib> souliaq: you should state your actual goal
[16:26] <ihack> merry christmas everyone - http://iosdevs.org/christmas/
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> souliaq: in your script, add a line:   sleep 20      then add an amperand to the end of the line in /etc/rc.local
[16:26] <bazhang> qasim_, downloaded how
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> souliaq: remember to add the ampersand or the boot will simply hang, the backgrounding allows the boot to continue while the script runs
[16:28] <Wild> from hi
[16:28] <Wild> :PP
[16:28] <Wild> not so much feffect xDD
[16:28] <qasim_> how to install brasero? i can open it only in archive manager folder..and there is no install option
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> qasim_: brasero is in a default install of Ubuntu
[16:28] <qasim_> hmmm
[16:28] <souliaq> qasim_ apt-get install brasero
[16:28] <bazhang> qasim_, I asked you how you downloaded it
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> souliaq: with sudo, of course
[16:29] <qasim_> i downloaded it from its official site
[16:29] <qasim_> sorry i dint read your line earlier
[16:29] <wdnz> Anyone here worked with ehcp before?
[16:29] <bazhang> qasim_, thats not how to install it
[16:29] <Starlet> ehcp?
[16:29] <wdnz> easy hosting contorl panel
[16:29] <qasim_> well
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> qasim_: you don't need to manually download anything, its all in the software centre
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> qasim_: what OS are you using now?
[16:30]  * ActionParsnip bets its a ma
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> mac
[16:30] <qasim_> its ubuntu 6
[16:30] <Ristovski> Any idea why "sudo ping HOST -f -c 500" keeps making an audible ping when I have used -a for only once before
[16:30] <qasim_> ubuntu 6.o6
[16:30] <Ristovski> pretty annoying
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> qasim_: there are no packages for Ubuntu 6, you will have Brasero installed by default
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> qasim_: or some other burner
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> *whoever recommended EDE - i'm testing it in virtual box*
[16:30] <Starlet> doelbnen
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Ristovski: why does ping need sudo?
[16:31] <qasim_> okay
[16:31] <Ristovski> ActionParsnip: It needs sudo for "-f"
[16:31] <BoozeWooz_> bak
[16:31] <Ristovski> ActionParsnip: I have added "-a" (audible ping) ONCE, now it does a audible ping when ever I use "sudo ping"
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> Ristovski: did you previously have bell volume at 0 ?
[16:34] <Ristovski> ActionParsnip: no, it was enabled
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> Ristovski: hmm, strange
[16:34] <Ristovski> I just wanted to try it for once, now it does it every time when I ping as root
[16:34] <Ristovski> ActionParsnip: could it be some config cache file I can safely clear?
[16:35] <io___> hi iafter upgrading to 12.10 the pc gets stuck at the loading OS animation, the only way i have to login is failsafe then startx as root
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> io___: what video chip do you use?
[16:37] <io___> some old Radeon stuff
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Ristovski: no idea tbh, seems a bit weird. Are there any bugs reported?
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> io___: try the boot option:    radeon.nomodeset=1
[16:37] <io___> but if i plug directly to the onboard i get the same issue
[16:38] <io___> ActionParsnip: do i set that up in Grub2?
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | io___
[16:39] <io___> ActionParsnip: i aven t got a cd install, can i do that with grub or after i drop to the command line ?
[16:39] <io___> oh well i can just download it anyway, just to know if it s necessary
[16:41] <Ristovski> ActionParsnip: couldnt find anything, reinstalling ping doesnt fix the issue
[16:44] <sunjan> test!
[16:44] <mustafa_> how to make a chmod
[16:44] <mustafa_> its doesnt work
[16:44] <jrib> !permissions | mustafa_
[16:47] <qasim_> how to use live messenger through xubuntu?
[16:47] <qasim_> there are few softwares but they dont support voice calls
[16:48] <xeocs> ...can it be installed via wine?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> io___: its the same as the CD as in the installed OS
[16:48] <bazhang> qasim_, what version of xubuntu
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> qasim_: there is emesene and amsn
[16:48] <qasim_> xubuntu
[16:48] <bazhang> qasim_, yes, what version
[16:48] <mustafa_> moving any file to directory var/www   doesnt seem to be working any suggestion
[16:49] <qasim_> xubuntu 12.10
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> qasim_: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=127   live messenger simply doesn't work
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> mustafa_: is it a desktop OS?
[16:49] <mustafa_> yes 12.04
[16:49] <mustafa_> 12.10
[16:49] <qasim_> ty action
[16:50] <mustafa_> sorry
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> mustafa_: then run:  gksudo nuatilus $HOME    and you can do as you wish
[16:50] <mustafa_> will try
[16:53] <mustafa_> iwas currently using root
[16:53] <mustafa_> and it doesnt seem to be work too
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> mustafa_: what errors do you get when you try to copy data over/
[16:54] <wdnz> how can I force the rmdir ? It won't let me because it isn't empty
[16:54] <mustafa_> mv cant stat no such file or directory
[16:55] <ikonia> it's not there
[16:55] <b14d3> wdnz: rm -rf (recursive and force iirc) <directory>
[16:55] <b14d3> But be very careful with it
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> wdnz: rm -r  folder
[16:55] <MERLO> hello
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> b14d3: no need for force
[16:55] <wdnz> ty
[16:55] <MERLO> !list
[16:55] <osse> Hi guys. I have a mail problem. Some time ago I tinkered with sendmail and some other package I can't remember the name of. Now /var/log claims all available space becase mail.err and mail.log just keep growing. I don't know what to do.
[16:55] <b14d3> ActionParsnip: Makes sense, I always forget that it isn't necessary, I usually include it, and didn't think about it because he asked to force it. Good call though.
[16:57] <locojay> i have a intel hd graphics 3000. under displays i only get 800x600(vnc) . under sys info i see Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (llvm 3.1, 256bits). unitiy_support_test -p fails on 3d support and not software rendered
[16:58] <locojay> any idea's how i can get a better resolution and support for unity so i can upgrade to 12.10
[16:58] <locojay> currenty on 12.04
[16:58] <cnz> what type of bot is ubottu
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> locojay: may help with the newer kernel and newer drivers
[16:58] <mustafa_> installing a php navigator for lamp server any idea
[16:59] <musiek> hi guys  i`v problem  with  install 5.16.0-0ubuntu1+ikarosdev
[16:59] <locojay> i m on kernel 3.2.0-34
[16:59] <locojay> should i upgade the kernel
[16:59] <ikonia> locojay: why ?
[16:59] <locojay> linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>?
[17:00] <ikonia> locojay: why ?
[17:00] <locojay> ActionParsnip suggested
[17:00] <mustafa_> installing a php navigator for lamp server any idea
[17:00] <ikonia> locojay: why ?
[17:00] <ikonia> mustafa_: what's the actual question
[17:00] <dcherniv> locojay, pastebin the output of glxinfo
[17:00] <ikonia> mustafa_: if you actually want a response, ask a question
[17:00] <musiek> i  try  instal it with  compizconfig  but was install only 5.16.0-0ubuntu1 with out 5 ikarosdev
[17:01] <musiek> can somone  help me? how  i  can install it?
[17:01] <ikonia> musiek: that makes no sense
[17:01] <ikonia> musiek: 1.) what ubuntu version do you have 2.) where are you getting this package 3.) how are you trying to install it 4.) what is the error
[17:02] <locojay> dcherniv: https://gist.github.com/4251844
[17:03] <mustafa_> i want to install a php navigator on ubuntu 12.10 iwant to move the files to var/www from download directory all i get in command line on the root acces is that the php navigator files (cant stat no such file or directory ) want to run lamp server?
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[17:05] <dcherniv> locojay, that doesnt seem right. pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:06] <mustafa_> i want to install a php navigator on ubuntu 12.10 iwant to move the files to var/www from download directory all i get in command line on the root acces is that the php navigator files (cant stat no such file or directory ) want to run lamp server?and i have have installed all the services mysql apache2 php5 but i cant link them together to make a web server
[17:06] <ikonia> mustafa_: that error means the file is not there
[17:06] <ikonia> mustafa_: to fix that you have to put the file there
[17:07] <samuel> Hi everybody!  I'm a new Ubuntu user with some questions and I'd be grateful if you'd please help me out with them.  I setup Ubuntu 12.10 on Saturday night after Vista caused me to almost rage smash my laptop.  How do packages work?  Do I have to install them from the package manager or can I install them manually from some sort of installer file?  What's the best way to setup a python interpreter?
[17:07] <mustafa_> checked it multiple time its there
[17:07] <ikonia> mustafa_: it's not, or the error isn't there
[17:07] <ikonia> mustafa_: show me the exact command you are using
[17:08] <musiek> ok ,  someone  know  how i  kan  changin in  global  menu  - menu alweys visible??
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> locojay: if your screen isn't reporting its abilities you may need an xorg.conf file
[17:08] <mustafa_> sudo mv phpfilemanager /var/www/
[17:09] <locojay> dcherniv: https://gist.github.com/4251884
[17:09] <oskar-> mustafa_:  what is the result of that command, and what is the result of "ls -ld phpfilemanager /var/www/"?
[17:10] <aidan_> Hello, I have an issue. After doing a complete clean reinstall of Ubuntu, I wanted to use the proper nvidia drivers. Unfortunately, when I try to install the driver (latest one, 310.19) through the .run file, the installer moans that it can't find the kernel source files. Can anyone help?
[17:11] <mustafa_> drwxr-xr-x 4 mustafa mustafa 4096 Dec 10 19:03
[17:11] <mustafa_> mv: cannot stat `phpfilemanager': No such file or directory
[17:12] <dcherniv> locojay, intel driver is not loading as far as i can tell.
[17:12] <dcherniv> locojay, what VGA card is reported in lspci?
[17:12] <musiek> how  i  can  make  global menu in ubuntu 12.04  visible?
[17:13] <ikonia> mustafa_: use the full path
[17:13] <ikonia> mustafa_: you are using sudo so the current working directory is not valid
[17:13] <ikonia> hence why the file is not found
[17:13] <locojay> ActionParsnip: i m on vnc so no screen
[17:13] <locojay> sec
[17:13] <mustafa_> even without sudo
[17:13] <locojay> 00:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[17:13] <mustafa_> on the root usr
[17:13] <ikonia> mustafa_: use the full path
[17:14] <locojay> which is the intel graphics 3000
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> locojay: what is the output of:  ls -la /var/www
[17:14] <mustafa_> for both destination and source
[17:15] <aidan_> Hello, I have an issue. After doing a complete clean reinstall of Ubuntu, I wanted to use the proper nvidia drivers. Unfortunately, when I try to install the driver (latest one, 310.19) through the .run file, the installer moans that it can't find the kernel source files. Can anyone help?
[17:15] <locojay> i installed ubuntu via xen pv without passtrhough., just added passtrhougt and now i have the card in ubunutu. but under graphics info i only see Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe
[17:15] <dcherniv> locojay, is this installed: ii  xserver-xorg-video-intel
[17:15] <locojay> yes
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> mustafa_: what is the output of:  ls -la /var/www
[17:16] <dcherniv> aidan_, search for linux-headers in the package manager and install
[17:17] <locojay> also installed mesa-utils
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> locojay: does the system have a make and model?
[17:17] <mustafa_> actionparsnip:total 152
[17:17] <mustafa_> drwxr-xr-x  4 mustafa mustafa  4096 Dec 10 19:03 .
[17:17] <mustafa_> drwxr-xr-x 27 mustafa mustafa  4096 Dec 10 17:08 ..
[17:17] <mustafa_> drwxrwxr-x  6 mustafa mustafa  4096 Dec  8 16:12 Linux_CAPT_PrinterDriver_V240_uk_EN
[17:17] <mustafa_> drwxrwxr-x  2 mustafa mustafa  4096 Dec 10 19:01 phpFileManager
[17:17] <mustafa_> -rw-rw-r--  1 mustafa mustafa 66152 Dec 10 18:24 phpFileManager-0.9.7(2).zip
[17:17] <FloodBot1> mustafa_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:17] <locojay> sry don't understand ActionParsnip
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> mustafa_: the file is there....
[17:17] <locojay> its a mac mini 2011
[17:18] <mustafa_> i told you
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> locojay: then that is the make and model :)
[17:18] <Ingenix> anybody here that can tell me why I can't get a working wifi hotspot with gnome network manager and a intel wifi link 5100?
[17:18] <mustafa_> simply not moving
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> locojay: let me search
[17:18] <oskar-> mustafa_:  it is already moved
[17:18] <locojay> running xen server dom0 . domU is ubuntu with passthrough of video card
[17:18] <locojay> ActionParsnip: thanks
[17:18] <bekks> mustafa_: "phpfilemanager" is different from "phpFileManage" - linux is case sensitive.
[17:19] <ikonia> mustafa_: how many times, use the FULL path
[17:19] <BluesKaj> locojay, what does the versiuon string from , glxinfo |grep OpenGL, output ?
[17:19] <mustafa_> okay let me try
[17:19] <mustafa_> soory that was the input dir
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> locojay: can you run:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit; sudo dmidecode -t 1 | pastebinit
[17:20] <locojay> http://cl.ly/image/1J1N22160d3n
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> locojay: you can use pastebin for text, no need for an image
[17:20] <mustafa_> many thanks it moved
[17:21] <locojay> sry was under vnc a payne
[17:21] <aidan_> dcherniv: OK, installed. I have reason to believe that I need to restart for these packages to work, so I'll be back in a minute
[17:21] <locojay> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1423576/
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> locojay: run the command I gave, what is the URL generated please
[17:21] <locojay> pastebinit solution
[17:21] <locojay> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1423576/
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> locojay: good ol mac.....NOT
[17:22] <locojay> mac mini mid 2011 with intel graphics 3000
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> locojay: try:  sudo wget -O /etc/X11/xorg.conf https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/xorg.conf
[17:26] <locojay> reboot?
[17:26] <locojay> thanks
[17:26] <locojay> first
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> locojay: sure
[17:26] <locojay> rebooting....
[17:27] <BluesKaj> ...snow to push , BBL.
[17:28] <locojay> ActionParsnip: same 800x600 under display. shows gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> locojay: you will need to fight that file til you get a good display. I would try the Quantal release, it may help. Remove the xorg.conf file in case it causes issues
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> locojay: if you monitor was decent, it would report its abilities and the driver would load properly
[17:32] <locojay> don't have a display all via vnc
[17:33] <locojay> installing inxi to get better output
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> locojay: could try:   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:35] <locojay> think i laready did . let me rerty
[17:37] <locojay> still galium
[17:38] <djxvillain> Hey, I don't know if I'm in the right spot, but I could use some help
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> djxvillain: if its ubuntu then yes :)
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> djxvillain  start with a question!
[17:39] <djxvillain> haha, okay great.
[17:40] <djxvillain> I'm pretty new to Ubuntu.  But just a few minutes I followed some commands I read in a forum and broke WINE.
[17:40] <djxvillain> I don't know how to undo the actions, or better yet, do them correctly.
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> djxvillain  try #winehq
[17:44] <djxvillain> This is the command I typed under /.wine/drive_c/Program Files (86)/ World of Warcraft
[17:44] <djxvillain> # __GL_THREADED_OPTIMIZATIONS=1 WINEDEBUG=-all wine wow-64
[17:44] <bitethecoin> I got a problem: This device is not working on ubuntu 12.10 http://pastebin.com/H5tR8jMG
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> djxvillain  better: look for a linux equivalent for whatever you want to do
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> ok, WoW
[17:45] <djxvillain> I tried it, it didn't seem to work.  WoW still doesn't start.
[17:45] <jungle> log! jungle
[17:45] <jungle> logs ! jungle
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> djxvillain: ask in #winehq too
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> !logs > jungle
[17:46] <djxvillain> Okay.  Thanks
[17:47] <jungle> MonkeyDust: thnx
[17:53] <amigamia> lala ladaia
[17:54] <amigamia> test
[17:55] <locojay> ActionParsnip: do you think a clean install of 12.04 will help since added the card passthrought after the install?
[17:58] <benth> what are good DE alternatives for ubuntu that aren't preinstalled?
[17:59] <thebishop> hey folks
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> benth  i'm testing equinox DE, it's very swift and fast
[18:01] <ewhrl> Under system settings->keyboard->shortcuts-navigation my redefined keyboard shortcut for minimizing normal windows is never saved after relogging, is there a fix for this?
[18:01] <thebishop> Under 12.10, the nautilus file chooser seems broken.  In several apps, my selected path is ignored and the app uses what it already decided as the default (typically home).  I've seen this in Deluge, Soundconverter, and Audacity
[18:01] <t0ken> hi, I've installed bind9 and setup some zones, the system seems to be ignoring my local dns server tho.  it goes to the public root servers first instead of looking locally.  Any idea how to make dns requests check locally first?
[18:02] <Nightwatch> I installed vnstat to see why box was moving slow. Found that my rx: is 50 Mbits/s - is there a way to track down what program/connection is using that much bandwidth
[18:02] <t0ken> Nightwatch: iptraf, I think will do that
[18:03] <Nightwatch> thanks
[18:04] <mojtabam> Hi, I have installed ubuntu serve recently and for browsing web installed chromium, but I get the error: cannot open display
[18:04] <mojtabam> Does anybody know what should I do?
[18:04] <mojtabam> Hello
[18:04] <jrib> mojtabam: you need to be in X
[18:04] <mojtabam> How can I do that, because I am newbie
[18:05] <mojtabam> This is the first time I am running linux server and I am going to shift from windows to linux
[18:05] <jrib> mojtabam: install a desktop environment.  ubuntu-desktop is the default one.  Why did you install the server edition if you wanted a gui?
[18:05] <mojtabam> jrib: I do not want a gui, I want to run web server
[18:06] <locojay> what's the dist name of 12.10. 12.04 is precise
[18:07] <locojay> will give installing 12.10 a try via xen-create-image
[18:07] <mojtabam> jrib: Are you there?
[18:07] <tib> I tried to reinstall grub on my dual-boot windows7 computer after formatting c drive
[18:08] <tib> Now all I see is a 'grub > ' terminal
[18:08] <tib> And cant boot into windows
[18:08] <tib> :(
[18:08] <tib> Can I reset it to use the window's bootloader?
[18:08] <mojtabam> Hi, I have installed ubuntu serve recently and for browsing web installed chromium, but I get the error: cannot open display
[18:08] <DrGrov> Hi everyone
[18:08] <tib> Please help
[18:08] <mojtabam> Hi, I have installed ubuntu serve recently and for browsing web installed chromium, but I get the error: cannot open display
[18:08] <jrib> mojtabam: you need a gui to use chromium.
[18:09] <jrib> mojtabam: chromium is a graphical application
[18:09] <mojtabam> jrib: how can I surf the web without using gui?
[18:09] <locojay> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1423681/
[18:09] <jrib> !quantal | locojay
[18:09] <mojtabam> and how can I uninstall the chromium?
[18:09] <jrib> mojtabam: you can use something like w3m, links2, lynx, etc.
[18:09] <jrib> !apt | mojtabam
[18:09] <tib> jrib: Can I reconfigure my system to use the Windows bootloader, and not grub?
[18:09] <Guest83098> yeh lynx ftw
[18:09] <locojay> thanks
[18:10] <jrib> tib: I doubt it
[18:10] <io___> hi i am stuck at the os login animartion after upgrading to 12.10, i can access a fnctional os only with safe mode / root access startx
[18:10] <jrib> tib: I don't know for sure though
[18:10] <DrGrov> I wonder if this is right or not. I got linux-headers-generic and linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>.30-generic installed. Should I just have one of the linux-source and linux-headers-generic in order to get nVidia working?=
[18:10] <DrGrov> I am quite sure I have one too many :D
[18:10] <dcherniv> edbrowse ftw
[18:10] <tib> jrib: Can I make grub detect my windows installation?