[02:54] <cprofitt> hggdh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1066437
[02:54] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1066437 in alsa-driver "On Lenovo ThinkPad T530 speakers not working after suspend" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[02:54] <cprofitt> same issue in Ubuntu as Kubuntu... and disabling wireless before suspend results in speakers working
[13:01] <dArKd3ViL> this is with reference to bug#886680
[13:03] <dArKd3ViL> a software appears in the earch result of software-center but when one click's on 'more info', it throws an error: ""There isn’t a software package called <software-name> in your current software sources.""
[13:03] <dArKd3ViL> *in the search
[13:29] <cprofitt> hey jbicha
[13:29] <cprofitt> hggdh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1066437
[13:29] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1066437 in alsa-driver "On Lenovo ThinkPad T530 speakers not working after suspend" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[13:29] <cprofitt> odd little bug there, heh? I have no idea what needs to be done to finish the triage
[13:30] <cprofitt> or if I should say that the bug affects the wireless driver or not
[15:28] <mikedep333> hi, after I upgraded my Dell PowerEdge T110 server precise 64-bit to quantal 64-bit last night, the BIOS boot fails with the message "Read Error"
[15:28] <mikedep333> I'm comfortable with fixing the error myself
[15:29] <mikedep333> but I want to know how I would report this as a bug?
[15:29] <mikedep333> e.g., do a I dd the MBR & attach it?
[15:29] <mikedep333> *do I
[16:31] <black_puppydog> hey all, got a question: why is it better to report this bug ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/linux/+bug/992087 ) for every model that it occurs on? Would it not help to actualy see what those models have in common?
[16:31] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 992087 in linux (Ubuntu Quantal) "[Vostro 3450] No sound from internal speakers" [Medium,Confirmed]


[01:52] <user|74410> hi i can run wifi ?
[01:52] <user|74410> ask me for some pw?
[02:50] <archetech> how to get plasma 5.20.3 and qt 5.15 on groovy ?
[03:37] <Frogger-> How does one change the desktop wallpaper in 20.10?  Right-clicking on the desktop doesn't do anything any more and there's nothing in system settings.
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[09:04] <WHEN> The Kubuntu 21.04 daily build ISO has some problems during installing in VMware.After creating VMware machine, I run this VM. I want to start Kubuntu 21.04 install process，but it always appears black screen.Black all the time. The installation interface always doesn‘t appear.The screen is always black.So what's this problem. How to solve it.thanks.
[09:13] <WHEN> The Kubuntu 21.04 daily build ISO has some problems during installing in VMware.After creating VMware machine, I run this VM. I want to start Kubuntu 21.04 install process，but it always appears black screen.Black all the time. The installation interface always doesn‘t appear.The screen is always black.So what's this problem
[09:17] <RikMills> WHEN: because something in the early changes to 21.04 broke the installer
[09:17] <RikMills> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1895905
[09:18] <RikMills> umm. not that one
[09:18] <WHEN> oh.....
[09:18] <WHEN> it is because this reason.I see.So this bug,when can solve this bug?
[09:18] <RikMills> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1903378
[09:19] <WHEN> I really love 21.04 kubuntu......
[09:19] <WHEN> but can;t install it. I very sad...
[09:19] <RikMills> WHEN: not an easy one, as the installer doesn't give much output on why it won't start
[09:19] <RikMills> hopefully the ubuntu installer team can work out why
[09:20] <WHEN> every time I must install kubuntu 20.10  then change sources.list file to hirsuate then upgrade.
[12:36] <murali_> Plz help. unable to paste anythin in windows drive
[12:38] <murali_> Plz help. unable to paste anythin in windows drive
[12:44] <murali_> Plz help. unable to paste anythin in windows drive
[12:45] <diogenes_> murali_, details.
[13:33] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:46] <user|88861> the updates sucks
[18:01] <stevesquire> I've got a computer with intel hd graphics hd530. how do I get 4k resolution
[18:43] <IrcsomeBot1> Fragender was added by: Fragender
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/X2PwJs2l/file_39194.jpg how we can install  these type of software?
[19:23] <fahad-M> Hey guys, I have kUbuntu installed, but I want to clean install kUbuntu again. I have home partition, is there a way I keep my home partition as it is?
[19:23] <fahad-M> In short, I just install kUbuntu into root partition while the swap and the home partition stays the way it is now
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[19:33] <Dragnslcr> fahad-M- I'm pretty sure the installer will let you set the home partition and have it not be formatted
[19:34] <boby> hello
[19:34] <boby> i need help
[19:34] <boby> just installed kubuntu and neither keyboard nor mouse are working
[19:34] <boby> on my laptop
[19:34] <boby> external mouse and keyboard are working fine
[19:36] <Kernellinux[m]> What model?
[19:36] <boby> asus
[19:36] <boby> one thing to note is that. i had both my external keyboard and mouse connected during installation
[19:37] <boby> and during installation too they dint work
[19:38] <fahad-M> <Dragnslcr "fahad-M- I'm pretty sure the ins"> Ok I'll try it
[19:41] <boby> ill try restarting without these external peripherals and come back
[19:43] <valorie> 19.10!
[19:46] <boby> ok im back
[19:46] <boby> the laptop's keyboard and touchpad work fine even in bootmenu.. and only disables when kde bootsup
[19:58] <valorie> thanks for the BR link for pipewire; I've added my input
[20:00] <valorie> TomTom: I had a similar problem and just solved it by `sudo apt remove pipewire`
[20:10] <TomTom> valorie: thanks, but I already did that after his first hint. And it worked 😎
[20:26] <fattywompus> I'm having an issue on a dual boot machine with a storage partition I access from Kubuntu and Win7 where Kubuntu keeps adding a number to its name and locking the previous one, eg. Vault gets locked but I can still access it through Vault1, then next reboot Vault and Vault1 both locked but can still access the drive as Vault2
[20:28] <fattywompus> Kubuntu 20.04 LTS... don't recall having this issue with a similar dula boot setup on other machines with 18.04 and other *bunutus in the past
[20:45] <fattywompus> Anything I google relating to partitions, locked, and numbering sends me down the completely wrong path so kind of at a loss
[22:33] <fattywompus> Oh well, logging off to reboot and see if it persist after resetting mount point with KDE partition manager which I believe should have updated fstab
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[04:19] <twb> Lucid's console-setup is calling "setupcon --force" in its postinst, which is screwing me over.  I'd like to find out why this change was introduced before filing a bug report; the Maintainer is listed as the install team.
[04:30] <persia> twb: I can't say for sure *why* that was introduced, but it appears to have been introduced as part of handling bug #524439
[04:31] <persia> There's some lengthy expositions in that bug that talk about how console-setup is to work with upstart and plymouth, which may help explain
[04:34] <persia> twb: From a quick look at postinst, it appears that it only calls `setupcon --force -k`under some conditions : I'm not sure precisely what you are doing that causes you to experience an issue, but perhaps you can cause an alternate activity to happen based on the right preconditions.
[04:35] <persia> (note that this may be all completely incorrect : I'm basing the pointers off the results of `bzr annotate` which may miss cases where code is moved en-masse from one place to another)
[04:46] <twb> persia: I tried forcing plymouth to be installed, but deboostrap installs console-setup as part of the base BEFORE any of my extra packages are installed
[04:47] <twb> Basically I'm building Lucid netboot images for a customer, from my Debian Sid host.
[04:48] <twb> If I run live-helper on the tty, setupcon runs inside the chroot and just breaks my font.  But if I do it over ssh, it turns off the local head, ignores ctrl-alt-del, breaks acpid's power button support, and kills all my ssh sessions -- basically meaning I have to do a hard reboot.
[04:48] <twb> If I boot the host OS with video=normal (disabling fbcon), the problem doesn't manifest.
[04:49] <persia> Someone else with deeper knowledge may be able to help.  Last traffic I saw was that live-helper was specifically unsupported, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to make it work with a bit of fiddling.
[04:50] <twb> I could probably reproduce this with pure debootstrap
[04:51] <twb> I figured that "we don't support lh" just meant that Ubuntu wasn't supported as a "host"; not a "guest".
[04:52] <persia> I don't know enough about lh to know.
[04:52] <twb> persia: I did investigate how Ubuntu built its live CDs, but it turned out it was using lots of internal code that "won't work for anyone else without a lot of work"
[04:52] <persia> And I don't mean to imply that just because lh is involved that the issue doesn't matter, only to provide warning of the edges.
[04:53] <twb> Nod.
[04:53] <twb> persia: there's a reason you and cjwatson are in my IRC client's "bright" list :-)
[04:54] <persia> I've gotten livecd-rootfs to work locally without much extra work, but I've always just used that output to modify existing images (perhaps also modifying the kernel and initramfs).
[04:55] <persia> So *modifying* an Ubuntu CD isn't that hard: it's the creation of one that seems to be complicated.
[04:55] <persia> (I know folk who have gotten debian-cd running locally, but apparently it's very tricky)
[08:03] <cjwatson> twb: *blink* if it's breaking something, that's unambiguously a bug, but it's mostly been like that for years; the only recent change to that part of the code was meant to be to cope with plymouth.
[08:04] <cjwatson> twb: which branch in the postinst is it taking?
[08:04] <twb> I'm not 100% sure
[08:05] <twb> It only happens if I boot the host sid system with video=i915:modeset=1
[08:05] <twb> I'm avoiding it right now by booting with modeset=0, so I guess I'm still using the fbcon, even
[08:06] <twb> I suppose I could strace -f the whole build to find out how it's invoking setupcon
[08:12] <ev> I started playing around with adding unit tests to ubiquity yesterday but ran into the wall of not being able to pass PATH through sudo.
[08:13] <twb> ev: can't you instruct sudoers to allow it through?
[08:13] <twb> Or even just sudo foo --> sudo env "PATH=$PATH" foo
[08:15] <ev> I'd like to avoid having to do that, if possible
[08:15] <ev> and the env trick doesn't seem to work either
[08:15] <twb> Fair enough
[08:21] <ev> ah, -i
[08:21] <ev> thanks twb
[08:22] <twb> Oh, sorry, I misunderstood.  I thought you were using -i, but *wanted* to preserve the PATH.
[08:25] <ev> yeah, ignore me.  It works fine without -i
[08:25] <ev> but it looks like I'm going to need to run the tests in a chroot anyway
[08:27] <twb> Usually, -i is more Right than -H -s or "sudo su -".
[10:00] <CIA-3> grub-installer: cjwatson * r843 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog grub-installer): Fix GPT detection to account for changed fdisk output (LP: #538100).
[10:02] <CIA-3> grub-installer: cjwatson * r844 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.49ubuntu7
[10:46] <CIA-3> partman-base: cjwatson * r191 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog init.d/parted):
[10:46] <CIA-3> partman-base: Don't source /usr/share/debconf/confmodule in init.d/parted;
[10:46] <CIA-3> partman-base: /lib/partman/lib/base.sh will always source it for us.
[11:21] <CIA-3> usb-creator: evand * r275 usb-creator/ (debian/changelog usbcreator/backends/udisks/backend.py):
[11:21] <CIA-3> usb-creator: Rework partition mounting so that it doesn't fail if the partition
[11:21] <CIA-3> usb-creator: was mounted between dbus calls.
[11:46] <CIA-3> console-setup: cjwatson * r138 ubuntu/ (console-setup-tty debian/changelog): console-setup-tty: Only call setfont once, for both font and ACM.
[13:22] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3921 ubiquity/ (bin/ubiquity-wrapper debian/changelog): Explicitly pass $HOME through kdesudo (LP: #538142).
[14:25] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3923 ubiquity/debian/changelog: categorisation
[14:30] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3924 ubiquity/ (bin/ubiquity-wrapper debian/changelog debian/control):
[14:30] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Use manual xauth code and sudo rather than kdesudo; the latter does
[14:30] <CIA-3> ubiquity: not permit passing through environment variables other than
[14:30] <CIA-3> ubiquity: one-by-one, which broke various things (LP: #526456, #538142).
[14:37] <CIA-3> partman-target: cjwatson * r789 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog finish.d/create_fstab_header): Mount /proc with nodev,noexec,nosuid.
[14:39] <CIA-3> partman-target: cjwatson * r790 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 64ubuntu7
[14:39] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3925 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog gui/gtk/stepLanguage.ui): Align labels to the top on the language page (LP: #532876).
[14:45] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3926 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/ubi-usersetup.py):
[14:45] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Construct the default hostname from the text in the username box, not
[14:45] <CIA-3> ubiquity: from the previous text in the hostname box (LP: #527704).
[15:04] <twb> In Lucid, I need casper to be in rcS, but *not* be in rc0.
[15:04] <twb> "update-rc.d casper disable 0" doesn't DTRT
[15:04] <twb> Oops, wrong channel.
[15:12] <cjwatson> ev: have you heard anything about the Kashmir bug yet?
[15:14] <ev> cjwatson: I have an exchange going with Ken and company about it
[15:14] <ev> I can CC you in if you'd like
[15:15] <cjwatson> no that's ok, I just wanted to know it was moving
[15:15] <cjwatson> there wasn't anything on the bug so I wasn't sure
[15:15] <ev> okay
[15:15] <ev> there seems to be some confusion as to who on the design team is tackling it, but I'm working on that.
[15:19] <cody-somerville> When you boot with casper, should the live user it creates show up in /etc/passwd in the live system?
[15:20] <cjwatson> I'd expect so
[15:20] <cjwatson> it creates it with adduser
[15:31] <cody-somerville> cjwatson, What would cause casper to fail to create the user?
[15:36]  * ev HATES PYTHON DEBUGGERS
[15:36] <ev> *ahem*
[15:37] <cjwatson> cody-somerville: don't know, check /var/log/casper.log
[15:38] <twb> ev: gimme slime any day, eh?
[15:38] <twb> cody-somerville: maybe combined with break=casper-bottom
[15:39] <ev> twb: I'd be happy with gdb.  At least it has features.
[15:41] <cody-somerville> There are several 'invalid user ubuntu' messages after "Begin: Adding live session user...\nsed: bad option in substitution expression"
[15:44] <twb> cody-somerville: what version of casper?
[15:45] <cody-somerville> 1.228
[16:15] <cjwatson> cody-somerville: I'm not seeing anything obvious - but if you add the 'debug' boot option then you'll get a full 'set -x' shell trace in /dev/.initramfs/initramfs.debug, which you can correlate against the code to work out what's going wrong
[16:15] <cody-somerville> cjwatson, k, thanks.
[16:16] <cjwatson> cody-somerville: DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer mightn't hurt either
[16:25] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3927 ubiquity/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
[16:25] <CIA-3> ubiquity: The run method of GTK+ dialogs enters a nested main loop. However,
[16:25] <CIA-3> ubiquity: the user can click the quit button (which calls the quit dialog's
[16:25] <CIA-3> ubiquity: run method) before the page is ready. Once the page is actually ready,
[16:25] <CIA-3> ubiquity: another main loop is entered, and thus if the user hits the quit button
[16:25] <CIA-3> ubiquity: on the quit dialog at this point, nothing will happen. Work around this
[16:25] <CIA-3> ubiquity: by managing the state of the quit dialog in the frontend.
[16:36] <kirkland> is "installing the base system" really crawling for anyone else today?
[16:38] <davmor2> kirkland: is this in vm
[16:38] <kirkland> davmor2: no, real hardware, install the server
[16:39] <davmor2> 32 or 64 bit?
[16:39] <cjwatson> recent change to dpkg to improve reliability had a performance hit
[16:39] <cjwatson> it's being discussed on debian-dpkg
[16:39] <kirkland> 64bit
[16:40] <cjwatson> shouldn't matter
[16:41] <kirkland> cjwatson: what was under a 10 minute install is ~30 minutes and counting now
[16:42] <cjwatson> yes I know
[16:43] <cjwatson> I'm sorry but we're looking into it.
[16:43] <cjwatson> the bug that was closed as part of this had 200 duplicates, so it isn't as simple as just reverting
[16:43] <cjwatson> as a workaround, install using ext3
[16:44] <kirkland> cjwatson: okay, thanks
[16:46] <kirkland> cjwatson: what's the d-i partman/foo string ext4 option I'm looking for to add to my preseed to go ext3 rather than ext4?
[16:47] <cjwatson> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html#preseed-partman  search for "default filesystem"
[16:48] <twb> Is Ubuntu waiting for Debian for btrfs/aufs/squashfs udebs for d-i?
[16:49] <davmor2> cjwatson: I just got a the kernel failed to re-read the partitions
[16:54] <davmor2> kirkland: yes does seem slower, but I don't think it's going as slow as yours was
[16:55] <kirkland> cjwatson: perfect, thanks
[16:55] <kirkland> davmor2: vm, or hw?
[16:55] <davmor2> hw
[17:00] <davmor2> kirkland: nearly done, but you're right it is slower
[17:02] <kirkland> cjwatson: ext3 *much* faster, install finished in ~6 minutes
[17:03] <twb> kirkland: compared to ext4?
[17:03] <kirkland> twb: working around a dpkg bug on ext4
[17:03] <twb> Righto.
[17:04] <twb> Otherwise I was gonna wave -ocommit and SSD erase block alignment and such at you
[17:09] <davmor2> kirkland: I see what you mean now linux-headers-2.6.32-16-server is mega slow been on this now for serveral minutes
[17:10] <kirkland> davmor2: yup
[17:10] <kirkland> davmor2: i killed the install after ~35 minutes on a dual core laptop, 2.4GHz, 4GB, 7200rpm disk
[17:11] <davmor2> it's carried on now
[17:11] <davmor2> kirkland: so still no as slow as yours sorry ;)
[17:18] <cjwatson> davmor2: on what configuration?
[17:18] <cjwatson> davmor2: (please be verbose up-front!)
[17:20] <davmor2> cjwatson: iso is 0fb898975b9ab8acd21bc25ca19fca9733d007a17144ae5f75893aaa1a878768 *lucid-server-amd64.iso  .  I did the standard whole drive lvm install that is auto selected
[17:21] <cjwatson> lvm.  thank you.  that was the magic word
[17:21] <cjwatson> 32/64-bitness is not usually relevant to this kind of thing
[17:21] <cjwatson> davmor2: did you have any partitions mounted by any manual means?
[17:21] <davmor2> after base the other packages installed at normal speed it was only the base that was slow.  So I installed additional ssh and that was quite quick
[17:22] <davmor2> cjwatson: nope
[17:22] <davmor2> there were partitions on there priory that were over written
[17:22] <cjwatson> normal speed> just different kinds of packages.  packages with lots of small files, notably linux-headers, suffer particularly badly
[17:23] <davmor2> cjwatson: hope that makes sense
[17:23] <cjwatson> davmor2: please don't drip-feed me this information, is there a bug with all of the information there at once?
[17:23] <cjwatson> (perhaps an older one I haven't got to yet ...)
[17:24] <davmor2> cjwatson: I'll have a look this is the first time I've seen this a) slowness and b) error message
[17:24] <cjwatson> hm, haven't you mentioned it before?
[17:24] <cjwatson> maybe not
[17:24] <cjwatson> don't worry about the slowness, it's already very well-understood
[17:25] <cjwatson> and I don't think it can be related
[17:25] <davmor2> I don't think I have reported it let me check though
[17:29] <davmor2> cjwatson: I can't find a d-i bug in my bug mails so I haven't reported one
[17:29] <cjwatson> ok
[17:30] <davmor2> cjwatson: Would you like me to report a new bug or see if I can find one?
[17:31] <cjwatson> report a new one please
[17:31] <davmor2> np's
[17:31] <cjwatson> you know what I think about piggybacking on existing bugs :)
[17:34] <davmor2> that the piggy's should be shot and turned into bacon?
[17:40] <davmor2> meh what's the crash database bug number please persia
[17:51] <CIA-3> usb-creator: evand * r276 usb-creator/ (debian/changelog usbcreator/frontends/gtk/frontend.py): Somewhat fix progress reporting.
[17:53] <ev> michaelforrest1: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/539189
[18:01] <davmor2> cjwatson: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/539194  hope that makes sense fsckin' apport's still broken
[18:02] <cjwatson> thanks
[18:03] <davmor2> tried to make the old and new as obvious as possible let me know if there is anything else
[18:03] <cjwatson> I can't find a matching trace in the log - did you quote the error message exactly?  I want to grep for it
[18:04] <cjwatson> ah, there we go, found it, you didn't quite :)
[18:04] <cjwatson> ok, will queue up ...
[18:33] <davmor2> I was close though right ;)
[18:35] <davmor2> cjwatson: so that's okay you don't need anything else?
[21:57] <ev> is there some trick to creating a debconf database from scratch?  DEBCONF_DEBUG=db is being incredibly unhelpful.
[21:58]  * ev digs through the source
[22:06] <cjwatson> ev: debconf-loadtemplate
[22:07] <ev> indeed, that blows up.  I'm trying roughly this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/395848/
[22:10] <ev> which fails with: "Configuration database "configdb" was not initialized."
[22:10] <ev> slowly trying to trace through that, but my perl is a bit rusty
[22:17] <cjwatson> looks like about the right place to start ...
[22:27]  * ev bangs head repeatedly on table
[22:28] <ev> s/Name: config/Name: configdb/
[22:28] <cjwatson> hah, I have never done that before, oh no
[22:28] <cjwatson> except for all those times
[22:29] <ev> lol
[22:30] <sbeattie> cjwatson: is there a known issue with the alt installer failing on setting up swap with full-disk encryption?
[22:31] <cjwatson> not one I know in those terms
[22:59] <sbeattie> (sorry, meant guided partitioning w/ lvm+encryption)
[23:02] <cjwatson> can you be a bit more verbose about "failing" please?
[23:04] <sbeattie> cjwatson: sure, bug 539324
[23:38] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3929 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[23:38] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: console-setup
[23:38] <CIA-3> ubiquity: 1.34ubuntu11, grub-installer 1.49ubuntu7, partman-base 138ubuntu3,
[23:38] <CIA-3> ubiquity: partman-target 64ubuntu7.
[23:47] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3930 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.2.0


[00:56] <diddledan> maybe the next G version of ubuntu should be "Gnarly Gnus"?
[01:03] <diddledan> http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2015-11/5/11/enhanced/webdr13/enhanced-14699-1446740827-7.jpg
[06:48] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:08] <MooDoo> morning
[08:51] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:54] <TwistedLucidity> 8 hours, 6 minutes of drudgery to go....
[08:56] <MooDoo> tell me about it
[09:02] <TwistedLucidity> I found a new hero yesterday: https://www.jitbit.com/alexblog/249-now-thats-what-i-call-a-hacker/
[10:08] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Tuesday and happy Celebrate Your Unique Talent Day! 😃
[10:09] <MooDoo> morning
[12:35] <foobarry> !ping
[12:35] <lubotu3`> pong!
[12:39] <foobarry> received duplicate order of tshirts from USA :S
[13:01] <diddledan> morning
[13:01] <diddledan> foobarry, maybe they decided you needed two
[13:01] <foobarry> i ordered 2 types, received 2 of each
[13:01] <foobarry> gonna have to get in touch with them
[13:02] <foobarry> postage to USA pricey though
[13:54] <popey> foobarry, surely they'll pay that, or more likely just let you keep it
[13:54] <foobarry> yeah, you'd think so
[13:54] <popey> I know someone who got sent double quantity of sofas
[13:54] <popey> they didnt want them back
[13:54] <Myrtti> I got a double quantity of digital cameras once
[13:54] <dogmatic69__> foobarry:  by law you can keep it with no cost
[13:55] <Myrtti> and I couldn't even return the other, because the system saw me getting only one
[13:55] <foobarry> i'd like to ask them first
[13:55] <diddledan> http://www.sciencealert.com/li-fi-tested-in-the-real-world-for-the-first-time-is-100-times-faster-than-wi-fi
[13:55] <diddledan> interesting concept
[13:55] <diddledan> I'm wondering how you communicate back to the light-fitting tho
[13:56] <dogmatic69__> foobarry: its to stop companies 'accidentally' sending extra and then asking people to pay up.
[13:59] <bashrc_> I remember discussing that li-fi idea in a job interview long ago
[13:59] <bashrc_> at a company which made lights
[14:12] <foobarry> i get 2 notifications from thunderbird. one is the desktop notifications, one is an ugly one at bottom of screen - how do i turn that off?
[14:19] <MooDoo> ubuntu spotted - http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/11/how-a-group-of-neighbors-created-their-own-internet-service/ 1m 27 mark :)
[14:22] <SuperMatt> It's so much easier to spot ubuntu in the wild than any other distro
[14:22] <SuperMatt> I wonder why that could be
[14:24] <zmoylan-pi> less windows 8 around these days? :-)
[14:24] <diddledan> SuperMatt, brown
[14:24] <diddledan> oh wait, we lost that these days. orange then
[14:24] <diddledan> or purple
[14:29] <MooDoo> it's aubergine not purple :p ;)
[14:37] <awilkins> Lifi : just communicate back with wifi
[14:37] <awilkins> No doubt designed for the common notion that people download more data than they upload
[14:37] <Seeker`> Myrtti: a real shame that you got a 2nd camera :P
[14:38] <Myrtti> well neither of them were for me
[14:38] <Myrtti> so one family got a camera in Finland and other in UK as a Christmas present
[14:39] <awilkins> The only time I want gigabit speeds upstream is when I sync my Windows 7 VM from my laptop to my desktop
[15:04] <diddledan> oh dear, a turkey has killed a rusky
[15:04] <diddledan> http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/turkish-warplane-shoots-down-russian-6888744
[15:04] <zmoylan-pi> techincally one of the ruskies was captured alive... won't end well
[15:07] <diddledan> https://www.google.com/intl/en-GB/starwars/
[15:09] <MooDoo> diddledan: dark side here :D
[15:30] <TwistedLucidity> zmoylan-pi: Both dead
[19:54] <mapps> urgh
[19:54] <mapps> another rubbish night at the casino, so boring here
[19:56] <mapps> won money, but its still soul destroying
[20:54] <diddledan> yawn
[20:54] <diddledan> ello mapps
[20:57] <mapps> hey
[20:57] <mapps> i like how every idiot at the casinos is smarter than everyone else/better off/good job , then it turns out ..no they work in a bar
[20:57] <mapps> lol
[20:58] <mapps> why do people have to lie so much
[20:59] <diddledan> donno, but my 200ft yacht had a great party at the weekend ;-)
[20:59] <diddledan> (that was a lie)
[21:00] <zmoylan-pi> you were there by yourself...
[21:00] <diddledan> yeah, the party suckecd
[21:00] <diddledan> sucked*
[21:00] <mapps> :D
[21:01] <diddledan> still at least the staff were friendly
[21:01] <diddledan> (lie)
[21:21] <popey> "every idiot at the casinos"
[21:23] <mapps> well
[21:23] <mapps> people that tell me i should play perect pairs at like 4/1 or whatever
[21:23] <mapps> ridiculous odds
[21:24] <mapps> im a gambler, but i know what odds stuff should be
[21:24] <mapps> im terrible at my own gambling ;) for the company already made 1.5mil since june lol
[21:27] <mapps> it pays for my "luxury living" apartment, 1500 quid a month for this pokey dump ..but i dont want to move to spain
[21:48] <diddledan> why are randoms following me on teh twits?
[21:48] <diddledan> @crimealertsusa is the latest random
[21:49] <zmoylan-pi> bots follow random people, people follow random people in hope they follow back to increase the # of their followers
[21:49] <diddledan> some guy called @AndrewMayne is following me
[21:49] <diddledan> he's supposedly an award winning author
[21:50] <zmoylan-pi> a lot of authors follow people to push their books....
[21:50] <zmoylan-pi> they usually have longest densest bios
[21:50] <diddledan> he's apparently the star of "Don't trust andrew mayne" on the A&E network
[21:53] <diddledan> https://www.dropbox.com/s/1ddsknofqlgyofm/Screenshot%202015-11-24%2021.53.54.png?dl=0
[21:54] <diddledan> not many
[21:57] <zmoylan-pi> kinda how snowden felt when he joined twitter :-)
[22:01] <diddledan> lol, yeah, if you're famous you really should turn off twitter emails
[22:11] <mapps> diddledan
[22:11] <mapps> i always get that
[22:11] <mapps> loadsa random follower reqs
[22:11] <diddledan> I want to know how they decide who to follow
[22:13] <zmoylan-pi> peobably scanning peoples bios or locations
[22:13] <diddledan> if it's locations then why would @CrimeAlertsUSA follow me?
[22:14] <diddledan> hint. I'm not in murrica
[22:14] <zmoylan-pi> maybe they assumed your an american if you follow mostly american accounts or are just eejits
[22:18] <diddledan> methinks they're somewhat more strongly worded than eejit
[22:18] <diddledan> f**king ***hole morons
[22:18] <zmoylan-pi> well it's a good enough description for a family friendly channel
[22:28] <diddledan> hmm, freenas mini discount
[22:29]  * diddledan waits for the email to load
[22:30] <diddledan> meh, that's expensive
[22:30] <diddledan> 4TB for 1.2k$
[22:30] <diddledan> 8TB for 1.3k$
[22:30] <diddledan> 1.4**
[22:30] <diddledan> 12TB for 1.5k$
[22:31] <diddledan> 16TB for 1.7k$
[22:31] <diddledan> or the top end 24TB for 2.25k$
[22:36] <daftykins> hmm i've definitely put together those for cheaper
[23:12] <daftykins> http://anandtech.com/show/9815/amd-moves-pre-gcn-gpus-to-legacy
[23:12] <daftykins> many many abandoned cards
[23:20] <diddledan> ouch
[23:20] <diddledan> I'm almost glad I bricked my 6850 :-p
[23:20] <diddledan> sorry, 6870
[23:20]  * diddledan just double checked the number
[23:22] <daftykins> you did? not via BIOS malarkey?
[23:24] <diddledan> yeah
[23:26] <zmoylan-pi> i don't think i've ever blown a video card... not from want of trying mind you... :-)
[23:26] <daftykins> ah could your recent purchase not help with that?
[23:26] <diddledan> donno
[23:27] <diddledan> it'ld require pulling the shield off to find any headers but that's too much hassle :-p
[23:27] <daftykins> diddledan: or you know, if you have a mobo with two PEG slots you could reflash it
[23:27] <zmoylan-pi> serial, parralel, usb, modems, isdn, scsi, scanners, sounds cards blown to kingdom come but never a video card for some reason...
[23:27] <diddledan> that's a point
[23:27] <daftykins> make it sew!
[23:27] <diddledan> I didn't think of plugging two cards into the machine
[23:28] <diddledan> I'm not sure I've still got the bios tho
[23:28] <daftykins> easily obtained online
[23:29] <daftykins> diddledan: example - https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/index.php?manufacturer=Sapphire&model=HD+6850


[11:19] <elky> k1l: i win.
[11:19] <k1l> :(
[11:19] <elky> :P
[17:54] <genii> Hm, 1996. The first I recall is 4.10
[17:55] <Pici> aww. I was writing my kick message.
[17:55] <ikonia> "bye" is qiucker
[17:55] <ikonia> quicker
[17:56] <Pici> hah
[17:57] <LjL> I USED TO MOD THIS FORUM
[17:57] <ikonia> THATS OK THEN !
[17:57] <Pici> DON'T YOU KNOW WHO I AM?
[17:57] <ikonia> I was waiting for the lilo reference
[17:58] <Pici> Or Mark Shuttleworth
[17:58] <LjL> how can you not know who i am?! i am connecting from a 6-weeks-ago-registered Tor account!
[17:58] <Pici> The nick looks familiar actually.
[17:58] <LjL> it just seemed like a mangling of "old school irc" to me
[17:58] <IdleOne> it does
[17:59] <Pici> LjL: ditto
[17:59] <IdleOne> I'm almost 100% sure there is history in the bantracker on that nick
[17:59] <ikonia> then he sucks as clearly we don't know who he is
[18:00] <IdleOne> I have it memorized up to september 2012
[18:00] <IdleOne> :)
[18:01] <ikonia> people are idiots
[18:02] <ikonia> this guy is parroting snippets of information from #ubuntu-server to make it sounds like he understands what he's asking for
[18:02] <ikonia> yet he can't see that I'm in the channel and can read the discussion
[18:06] <genii> Now I remember why that name sounded familiar. http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/10/15/%23ubuntu-ops.txt
[18:07] <ikonia> genii: clearly you do know who he is
[18:07] <genii> ikonia: She
[18:07] <ikonia> ah
[18:21] <Pici> ikonia: I'd just let it go, you can't educate everyone
[18:21] <ikonia> it's just stupid
[18:23] <LjL> Pici: how about, ask for the name of the VPS, get in contact with someone who's an admin there, and "educate" ;(
[18:24] <ikonia> hey - check this IP out, he'll be getting dodgy emails and naked pictures :)
[18:25] <ikonia> ahh he's at uni
[18:25] <ikonia> ah, maybe not
[18:25] <ikonia> dead Uniserver please check this guys IP for MTA transfer, it will be "gold"
[18:25] <ikonia> "dear"
 can someone recommend me a goof free irc for osx         his cat misspelled ubuntu in that sentence :)
[20:23] <genii> I like that turn of phrase, "goof free irc"
[20:28] <genii> odd1 I think is the zorinos person of another day
[23:00] <bazhang> * ikonia sets ban on<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:00] <bazhang> wrong host
[23:00] <ikonia> got it
[23:00] <bazhang> ok
[23:00] <ikonia> thanks
[23:01] <ikonia> was a second behind you
 ferie, try safari browser on ubuntu


[13:50] <nicolas_> bom dia
[13:51] <nicolas_> instalei o xubuntu 22.04, mas o video fica com a tela ligado mas tudo preto, até eu mexer o mouse, já desativei desligar a tela e screensave, o que mais pode ser?
[13:51] <nicolas_> após 15 minutos sem mexer o mouse ou teclado
[14:18] <cake> e
[16:19] <xu-help39w> Hi guys! Newb here. Trying to make work touchscreen in my fresh install of xubuntu. The device is SYNA7300:00 06CB:177C which has double click and long press menu not working on desktop navigation. Any ideas? Thanks
[22:31] <arezg> well hello
[22:31] <arezg> anyone here?
[22:31] <arezg> alive?
[22:42]  * genii shambles zombielike towards the coffeepot
[22:43] <Bashing-om> *DO Not* Disturb untill after the 2nd cuppa !!


[08:13] <Hobbsee> morning mobile team!
[08:13] <persia> Morning
[08:20] <Hobbsee> how much of this is a red herring argument, with the main & universe combination?
[08:21] <persia> Unknown, really
[16:27] <ian_brasil> hey, android on unr looks great!
[21:02] <astropunkin1> hi is anyone there?