[00:00] <FluxD> neverblue, I am sitting at home on an xp computer server is at a datacenter
[00:00] <pike_> misslecommander_: nope
[00:00] <misslecommander_> oh no
[00:00] <misslecommander_> it was doing that in pigdin too
[00:00] <neverblue> FluxD, then you need to edit 'sudo nano /etc/ssh/ssh_config' and uncomment out 'X11Forwarding yes'
[00:00] <JustChill> is there an active antivirus scanner anyone know of one
[00:00] <RootyRootRootWoo> Hi, when I download any file and the "save to" explorer [?] window opens, Gnome blanks out the file name in the "Save as" dialog box. Anyone know of a solution?
[00:00] <MystaMax> !virus
[00:00] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[00:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !virus
[00:00] <willscarlet^^> filthpig  .... amsn is better, cheers!!
[00:00] <misslecommander_> pike : can u message me, so i can see if i even get them?
[00:00] <FluxD> neverblue, ok let me do that
[00:01] <Peppermint_Roo> I was just wondering... is there a way to change the background in the console (alt+ctrl+1)?  In SUSE it's very clean and beautiful with just a slight graphic, but in Ubuntu it's flat black.
[00:01] <misslecommander_> ok i see message :  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems
[00:01] <Destino> buenas
[00:01] <misslecommander_> so prob not me/you
[00:01] <neverblue> FluxD, that will all X apps to run, you can use 'xeyes' to test that its working
[00:02] <neverblue> FluxD, not 100% sure no how Windows will handle everything on its end
[00:03] <John_R> hi folks. i have a problem, maybe you can help. i have an old dell desktop box with an intel graphics card that uses i810 drivers. the only resolution i can get is 1024X768@85hz. but the mointor doesn't like 85hz, and it jumps slightly all the time. any idea how i can change the refresh rate?
[00:04] <FluxD> neverblue, http://pastebin.ca/859217 I dont see that one
[00:04] <misslecommander_> John_r : i cant even change my monitor refresh rate, i wish i could
[00:04] <Ubunoob> Question: my ubuntu pc will not start up. Message error on screen reads "*Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) [OK]" Any help would be appreciated.
[00:04] <misslecommander_> 60hz all i get, it is very bad for my eyes
[00:05] <Peppermint_Roo> John_R:  I think that would be specified in the xorg.conf.  Have you tried looking there?
[00:05] <John_R> what card you got, missilecommander?
[00:05] <SourceCode> hi
[00:05] <John_R> yep, i set the xorg.con with dpkg-reconfigure and also by hand, no go
[00:05] <misslecommander_> nVidia PCI-Express
[00:05] <neverblue> FluxD, i have done tunneling from a Ubuntu to a Ubuntu,
[00:05] <Tigerplug> Im installing a theme (MAC4LIN) when I install it says theme installed successfully in Appearance preferences but it doesn't show up in there or ask me would I like to apply it now
[00:05] <John_R> the only refresh rate option available in Preferences>Screen Resolution is 85hz
[00:05] <un_op> John_R, what frequencies are reported when you reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[00:05] <wers> when alt+tabbing, the icons of the apps come out. I want to make those icons larger on gnome 2.20. any ideas on how I can do it (if I can? :D)? :D
[00:05] <Tigerplug> any suggestions guys.... im stuck on this one
[00:06] <FluxD> neverblue, which one should I uncheck in that list ?
[00:06] <misslecommander_> un_op : how do i check that ?
[00:06] <un_op> misslecommander_, check what?
[00:06] <evil_tech> holy users
[00:06] <un_op> misslecommander_, refresh rates?
[00:06] <misslecommander_> un_op : maybe it was for something else
[00:06] <neverblue> FluxD, then you need to edit 'sudo nano /etc/ssh/ssh_config' and uncomment out 'X11Forwarding yes'
[00:07] <ernesto> hola
[00:07] <neverblue> FluxD, please read this post again
[00:07] <FluxD> neverblue, I dont see an option like that
[00:07] <desertc> !hi |ernesto
[00:07] <ubotu> ernesto: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[00:07] <misslecommander_> un_op : i want to change my monitor refresh rate to 85hz, but all thats there is 60hz, i am not running restricted nvidia driver, it freezes my system
[00:08] <ernesto> I dont speak english
[00:08] <desertc> !es |ernesto
[00:08] <ubotu> ernesto: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:08] <ernesto> i speak spanish
[00:08] <Scunizi> astro76, once the move has been crunched to a mpg, will k3b then take care of the burning to dvd?  also if I burn it as a straight mpg file will a dvd pick it up and play it.. I'm really dvd spec dumb.
[00:08] <x86_> How would I go about traceing a non spoof src header packet, I keep getting d0sed by these bots I want to find out who is doing it
[00:09] <FluxD> neverblue, ok I added it anything else ?
[00:09] <astro76> Scunizi: the output will be an .iso file you can burn with any program
[00:09] <evil_tech> wireshark
[00:09] <misslecommander_> x86 packet-sniffer ?
[00:09] <misslecommander_> wireshark nice
[00:09] <happy1> anyone know how to determine the /dev/____ device name for a Xen guest CDROM drive?
[00:10] <misslecommander_> is WireShark in repository ?
[00:10] <evil_tech> ye
[00:10] <evil_tech> yes
[00:10] <Scunizi> astro76, thanks.. looks like the file being created is an mpg.. maybe I chose the wrong option.
[00:10] <misslecommander_> oh thats great
[00:10] <astro76> Scunizi: maybe it's just showing intermediate progress?
[00:10] <astro76> Scunizi: I only tried it once
[00:10] <neverblue> FluxD, reconnect, and give it a try
[00:10] <Scunizi> astro76, I hope so.. it takes a while
[00:10] <n_i_c_k> (how) can I rescue a PC which cannot mount its boot partition, after booting?
[00:10] <astro76> Scunizi: it does, a couple of hours
[00:11] <Ubunoob> Question: my ubuntu pc will not start up. Message error on screen reads "*Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) [OK]" Any help would be appreciated.
[00:11] <evil_tech> stupid raid array is taking forever to initialize any reason why that may be?
[00:11] <un_op> misslecommander_, well, you might not be running with the right drivers then -- have you tried this command? sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ? what refresh rates does the script say X can support?
[00:11] <evil_tech> Ubunoob: have you pushed enter?
[00:11] <RootyRootRootWoo> Hi, when I download any file and the "save to" explorer [?] window opens, Gnome blanks out the file name in the "Save as" dialog box. Anyone know of a solution?
[00:11] <Ubunoob> yes, enter and crtl + c do nothing
[00:11] <un_op> happy1, usually /dev/cdrom* ?
[00:11] <Scunizi> astro76, 20% done right now if I can believe the progress bar.. p4 2.4ghs socket 478 (old) w 2gig ram.. not cooking but adequate
[00:12] <jvai> Scunizi, i was "kinda" succesfull with DeVeDe, when i wanted to convert the movie children of men in .avi format,  i converted it into an iso, then burnt... if you burn the movie in it's current .avi, .mpg format, it'll just be a data cd, not readable by a dvd player
[00:12] <Ubunoob> evil_tech, i switched from an nvidia gfx card back to my on-board graphics cuz my invida got damged, and since then i can't start unbutu
[00:12] <un_op> RootyRootRootWoo, download file from where in what application?
[00:12] <Scunizi> jvai, thanks.. when it's converting the avi, is the temp file an mpg?
[00:12] <misslecommander_> un_op : you want me to run : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xor in terminal ?
[00:13] <misslecommander_> what does it do ?
[00:13] <jvai> Scunizi, yes
[00:13] <Noemi_> let's go
[00:13] <Noemi_> http://lordserer.blogspot.com/
[00:13] <unagi_> !iso
[00:13] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[00:13] <Scunizi> jvai, thanks that's good news.
[00:13] <jvai> or u can copy the former as backup then convert the copy
[00:13] <evil_tech> Ubunoob: i'd try booting into recovery mode and removing completely the nvidia driver stuff and then reconfigure x
[00:14] <Billiard> hey, about 5 seconds after i plug in my usb mouse, it stops working and dmesg gives me "hiddev96: USB HID v1.11 Device [Logitech USB ..."
[00:14] <Ubunoob> evil_tech, is ubuntu 7.10 compatible to run with on-board graphics?
[00:14] <un_op> misslecommander_, well, dpkg-reconfigure is going to reonfigure X for you and generate a new Xorg.conf .. in the meantime, it's going to query your hardware and find out information like adapter name, monitor, refresh rates, etc -- make a backup of your Xorg,conf first tho just incase
[00:14] <PriceChild> Ubunoob, yeah
[00:14]  * ilikebuntu000 is up and running newest ubuntu with a gForce 2 MX 64MB graphics, and only ~200MB RAM, on a 500MHrz box!!!!!!!!!! and it WORKS! at a usable level. anyone that says they need faster than that is using their computer for mor than a tool (for Games, probably).
[00:14] <Dextorion> hey.. Eterm doesnt handle utf?
[00:15] <Ubunoob> evil_tech, pricechild, how do i boot into recovery mode in 7.10?
[00:15] <un_op> Ubunoob, if you changed graphics cards, you'll need to reconfigure X again to reflect the change
[00:15] <misslecommander_> un_op : so that will just do the monitor stuff, nothing else ?
[00:15] <FluxD> neverblue, I got a blank screen with lines ?
[00:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Ubunoob: Escape during power up to get grub menu
[00:16] <neverblue> FluxD, sorry, give me a min or two, working on my own issues here :)
[00:16] <Ubunoob> un_op, will it be easy to reconfigure x?
[00:16] <un_op> misslecommander_, well, it'll also do keyboard and mice -- it's usually safe to follow the defaults, but sometimes common sense is needed .. nothing too hard
[00:16] <FluxD> neverblue, sorry just ping me when u are free
[00:16] <neverblue> FluxD, sounds good, otr just keep trying the channel
[00:16] <un_op> Ubunoob, it's a two minute process
[00:16] <RootyRootRootWoo> un_op: any file from anywhere. It also happens when I extract .zip / other types archives. It initially highlights the filename text blue and then deletes it when navigating to the default directory
[00:17] <un_op> RootyRootRootWoo, and you can't type in anything, can you?
[00:17] <un_op> !xorg
[00:17] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[00:17] <Help> help!!!!!
[00:17] <tweak^_> hello...
[00:17] <TheLynx> anyone here experiencing graphical glitches with ATI-cards when using compiz?
[00:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !helpme
[00:17] <ubotu> Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[00:17] <tweak^_> TheLynx-> nope...
[00:17] <Ubunoob> thanks ubotu
[00:17] <misslecommander_> un_op : thank you, that will come in handy
[00:18] <tweak^_> worked oiut of the box for me
[00:18] <Jack_Sparrow> TheLynx: Better answers in #Compiz
[00:18] <TheLynx> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[00:18] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[00:18] <RootyRootRootWoo> un_op: I can type in the filename but then it's often quite long, or I don't remember it. BTW, this happened when I upgraged to Feisty
[00:19] <pike_> TheLynx: thats like asking if anyone likes pizza
[00:19] <tweak^_> i've got a kind of trivial question: i run ubuntu server with no gui... i'd like to display logs instead of login prompts for TTY1-4
[00:19] <DjViper> lol pike
[00:19] <tweak^_> how would i go about this?
[00:19] <Help_> i deleted logical drive using windows xp home edition partition, then i rebooted my PC, i got grub error 22.  i searched online: recommendation was to use windows xp cd, but i only have system recovery cds from vaio, if i use it i lose everything on windows, and it doesn't start the command window when i press R.
[00:19] <Ubunoob> alright, i'll go try this now, thanks for all the help!!
[00:20] <Johnson> are u supposed to be able to drag and drop icons from one desktop to another one using the desktop switcher
[00:20] <Johnson> because for some reason mine doesn't do that
[00:20] <dude_> <- need help, somewhat urgend ^^
[00:20] <Help_> i'm booting with ubuntu live cd, and i would like to fix mbr, anyone can help me?
[00:20] <pike_> Help_: so all the other partitions are the same you just have some freespace that used to be the xp partition?
[00:20] <un_op> RootyRootRootWoo, I suspect ubuntu has made adaptations to the save as dialogs .. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=413457
[00:20] <Help_> no, it use to be ubuntu.  pike_
[00:21] <dude_> im trying to use my linux box as a router. it has an active internet connection and i wanna share this connection to a windows box.
[00:21] <pike_> Help_: oh so do you want to use windows mbr or grub?
[00:21] <Help_> mbr
[00:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Help_: There are windows boot discs that can help with that..  or boot livecd and restore grub
[00:22] <pike_> Help_: from a windows boot disk or cd run fdisk /mbr i think. an alternative is to make a small like 5-10MB partition and install grub to it
[00:22] <evil_tech> you could just borrow someones windows disk too
[00:22] <Help_> i can't get any, because i have to write it to a cd, and i'm using cd room, to boot this live CD of ubuntu
[00:22] <ilikebuntu000> to fix mbr just boot from your Win disk, goto recovery console . input admin pass to accesss it. then run fixboot, then run fixmbr
[00:22] <misslecommander_> un_op : found in xorg.conf -> 	Identifier	"Generic Monitor"
[00:22] <RootyRootRootWoo> un_op: Thanks for the link: am reading it now!
[00:22] <misslecommander_> i will see what i can dp
[00:23] <gmoore> hello. i just installed the latest ubuntu onto my htpc (Shuttle SG33G5 - Intel G33 chipset, onboard audio/video). everything seems to be working good so far, but i'd like to get SPDIF audio out (via Toslink) set up. i can't test it right now (receiver is in a different room) so for all i know it's working already, but i doubt it.
[00:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Help_: #Windows can help or super grub repair cd.. lots of options
[00:23] <Help_> my wii can't get to recovery console, i have system recovery files only, they recover files installed in harddrive by manufactor
[00:23] <clarezoe> can anyone help me? I've post my question here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4156728#post4156728
[00:23] <gmoore> any suggestions on what i should be looking at to get SPDIF out set up and testing it etc? even if i dont have the receiver plugged in, if i can at least click a play button and have it think it's playing the sound w/o giving me errors then thats a good sign
[00:24] <Help_> but i can't boot windows, because of the error, how can i write cds if i can't boot windows
[00:24] <un_op> misslecommander_, that's probably why you can't use the optimal resolution -- if i were you i'd google up and see what other linux user's with the same monitor have done to their Xorg.confs
[00:24] <Black_Cat> www.meine-nackte-ex.net/?uid=102371
[00:24] <Black_Cat> www.meine-nackte-ex.net/?uid=102371
[00:24] <Black_Cat> cosa è????
[00:24] <evil_tech> external burner?
[00:24] <Tigerplug> anyone know of a PIDGIN plugin to show song being played in amarok?
[00:24] <Tigerplug> could do with it!
[00:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Help_: You can find a friend with a pc and use theirs to make disks...
[00:25] <misslecommander_> un_op : looking at the Uboto link, i should prob be able to manage it. i do have a question though
[00:25] <evil_tech> yay 39% to go until these stupid messages stop popping up
[00:25] <misslecommander_> un_op : if i mess it up, can i repair the xorg.conf file ?
[00:25] <|Quest|>  can i install a distro on a flash drive and use it to run it on different PCs?
[00:26] <FluxD> What is the command to start KDE or gnome thru commandline ?
[00:26] <Jack_Sparrow> clarezoe: Please post at least a brief description of the problem in the channel.. That way someone with experience in that area can go look...
[00:26] <evil_tech> |Quest|: yes you can. pendrivelinux.com has some good how tos
[00:26] <Dextorion> Is it possible to get Eterm to use UTF-8 =
[00:26] <phoul> anyone know a good / easy to use svf file checker
[00:26] <Dextorion> ?
[00:26] <un_op> misslecommander_, make a backup of the original xorg.conf so you can always put it back if you do screw up -- sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[00:26] <FluxD> What is the command to start KDE or gnome thru commandline ?
[00:27] <un_op> FluxD, startx ?
[00:27] <Jack_Sparrow> |Quest|: Yes... pendrivelinux.com
[00:27] <FluxD> un_op, ok let me check
[00:27] <MrWGW-> on the LiveCD, how would someone enable sshd?
[00:27] <un_op> misslecommander_, if ever you need to revert -- do the opposite -- sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:27] <clarezoe> Thanks Jack_Sparrow, I use ssh but says "no route to host", and can't open all the webpages with the domain of "gu.se"
[00:28] <FluxD> un_op, I got X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting.
[00:28] <un_op> MrWGW-, /etc/init.d/sshd start  if the openssh-server is installed
[00:28] <|Quest|> Jack_Sparrow evil_tech - i was talking about regular distros like ubuntu
[00:28] <|Quest|> Jack_Sparrow evil_tech - is that possible with any distro?
[00:28] <un_op> FluxD, have you got the xserver packages installed?
[00:28] <ballongen> route -p add simpson
[00:28] <julio> hey, where can i find these dependencies? libsnmp9-dev libsane
[00:28] <MrWGW-> would it be installed on the LiveCD by default?
[00:28] <neverblue> FluxD, still having problems ?
[00:28] <willscarlet^^> i get a TkCimage error when loading the new aMSN
[00:28] <MrWGW-> and can it be installed during a LiveCD session?
[00:28] <Jack_Sparrow> |Quest|: Not all.. no...
[00:28] <FluxD> neverblue, yes lol
[00:29] <ballongen> MrWGW-: apt-get install ssh
[00:29] <Jack_Sparrow> clarezoe: Just address it to the channel...  I personally know nothing about ssh
[00:29] <MrWGW-> ok
[00:29] <FluxD> neverblue, I connected fine but I am getting a blank/grey screen ?
[00:29] <pike_> FluxD: for a basic xsession i normally install xserver-xorg xfonts-base and a wm like fluxbox then echo exec fluxbox > ~/.xinitrc then run xinit   or somesuch
[00:29] <neverblue> FluxD, ok, so can I ask, why are u tunnelling, do you not have admin access, to open ports ?
[00:29] <happy1> happy
[00:29] <clarezoe> Jack_Sparrow, the address is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4156728#post4156728
[00:29] <|Quest|> Jack_Sparrow evil_tech - and will it be slower than regular install?
[00:29] <FluxD> neverblue, I am using putty to connect
[00:29] <neverblue> FluxD, I think its because X needs to run on your client, as I said before, not sure how windows will handle it
[00:29] <julio> hey neverblue, do you know where can i find these dependencies? libsnmp9-dev libsane, because when i tried to install HPLIP, it couldn't find these dependencies
[00:29] <neverblue> FluxD, oh, wait a sec
[00:30] <tweak^_> Can I display logs instead of logins at my tty terms?
[00:30] <jordan__> one of my usb mice works for a few seconds then stops and the other doesnt at all
[00:30] <tweak^_> anyone anyone?
[00:30] <neverblue> julio, im busy as it is, please ask the channel
[00:30] <|Quest|> Jack_Sparrow i can use *buntu?
[00:30] <happy1> un_op, literally '/dev/cdrom*' ?
[00:30] <julio> neverblue: ok, sorry
[00:30] <FluxD> pike_, I saw that few of the running processer were kde based does that matter ?
[00:30] <clarezoe> Jack_Sparrow, thanks, not only the problem of ssh, I mean I can't ping any address with the domain "gu.se"
[00:30] <julio>  do you know where can i find these dependencies? lib
[00:30] <Jack_Sparrow> |Quest|: Yes, you can install ubuntu on pen drvie.. please see the site we referenced
[00:30] <neverblue> FluxD, so you are using putty, to ssh into a remote computer, and attempting to VNC over that ?
[00:31] <FluxD> neverblue, yes
[00:31] <neverblue> FluxD, not sure if that will work, can you not just VNC in ?
[00:31] <FluxD> neverblue, that part is working now but I am getting a blacnk/grey screen
[00:31] <un_op> happy1, * there could mean nothing or a number starting at 0 .. the first CDROM drive is usually /dev/cdrom .. the second /dev/cdrom0 etc..
[00:31] <neverblue> FluxD, bypassing the ssh tunnel ?
[00:31] <pike_> FluxD: oh vnc over ssh is different. once you set it up you need to set vncpasswd and add the wm to .vnc/startup i think
[00:31] <FluxD> neverblue, yea I am connecting to ip now
[00:32] <neverblue> FluxD, so you can VNC directly to it ?
[00:32] <happy1> un_op: the CD ROM automounts on the host Linux OS as /dev/sr0
[00:32] <FluxD> neverblue, yes over SSH I am getting connection refuse
[00:32] <happy1> un_op:  it mounts it to /media/<CD Volume Name>
[00:32] <|Quest|> Jack_Sparrow ok
[00:32] <neverblue> FluxD, did you run vncclient (after sshing in) on the server (remote) and gave localhost as the address, or how are you VNCing over ssh ?
[00:33] <Goupil418> yesterday I've downloaded every programs I could find in my terminal using 2 letters... it took me 3 hours
[00:33] <happy1> un_op:  in the Linux Xen guest VM it mounts it to /dev/xvdb
[00:33] <evil_tech> |Quest|: you are going to want a fairly fast flash drive if you want good performance
[00:33] <neverblue> Goupil418, u have to much time on your hands
[00:33] <mular> out of curiosity who come when I do uptime it shows 4 users ? Does that mean 4 users connected to me?
[00:33] <Goupil418> I've found some programs dating from 1992
[00:33] <Goupil418> neverblue, I know
[00:33] <jimmygoon> Is the only way to get my virtual client on the network to create a bridge
[00:33] <CrashOblong> Hi, I'm looking for someone to lend give me some info on some real simple problems I'm having with a new install of ubuntu 7.10
[00:33] <FluxD> neverblue, I dont think VNC over ssh is working. It gave me a connection refused error. But if I connect to server ip it works fine and asks for  a pass
[00:33] <happy1> un_op: it works there too, but not in the Windows VM
[00:33] <Goupil418> neverblue, I'm a geek
[00:33] <|Quest|> !rad
[00:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:34] <neverblue> FluxD, prompts for a pass in a VNC client, running locally, thats what you mean, right ?
[00:34] <un_op> happy1, hmm -- i'm not so sure then
[00:34] <FluxD> neverblue, VNC over ssh means I connect to <IP_ADDRESS>:5901 right?
[00:34] <Goupil418> I'm trying to decrypt matrix language rofl
[00:34] <|Quest|> evil_tech how could i know the pen drive is fast enough?
[00:35] <t35t0r> anyone using wpa_supplicant / wpa_gui see it endlessly stuck at group_handshake?
[00:35] <un_op> happy1, so you're trying to get the CDROM mounted in a guest OS (windows in this case)# withing Xen ?
[00:35] <neverblue> FluxD, when your connected to the server, yes, use the localhost address, which is what you posted
[00:35] <neverblue> FluxD, just to confirm again, you can use VNC, into that box, correct ?
[00:35] <EADG_> mular: type w to see who's logged in, most likly it's just you on a couple tty's or terminals.
[00:35] <FluxD> neverblue, what I did was connecto to server using putty then I typed in <IP_ADDRESS>:5901 and I got connection refused
[00:35] <evil_tech> |Quest|: I believe pendrivelinux keeps a list of usb drives. i have ubuntu installed on a couple of OCZ Rally2's and it runs well. I have also installed it on a Crucial Overdrive
[00:36] <mular> ya shows me on tty2 tty7 pts/0 pts/1 (what is pts?
[00:36] <bhsx> ok i have compiz installed on 7.10, how do i set it to start automatically when GNOME or KDE start?
[00:36] <EADG_> mular: psyodo (spelling??) terminal I think.
[00:36] <neverblue> FluxD, answer my last post please :)
[00:36] <mular> TTY2 / 7 - that is when I would hit ctrl -alt 1 7 right?
[00:36] <Starnestommy> mular: same thing as a tty, except you can't switch to it using ctrl+alt+Fsomething
[00:36] <pike_> !defaultwm | bhsx
[00:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about defaultwm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:37] <bhsx> and also, does anyone else lose there title bars when using compiz in kde4?
[00:37] <mular> ah ok, cool thanks guys.. just trying to learn all I can.. having so much fun with this <most of the time > :)
[00:37] <EADG_> mular: tty7 should be where X is running.
[00:37] <bhsx> ty
[00:37] <FluxD> neverblue, I think so but I am getting a blank screen if that helps
[00:37] <mular> ah ok, so ya I logged into tty2 because I was using VNC full screen an dI couldn't figure out how to shut it off :) so I did killall
[00:38] <solexious> Hello all, how can I find out what can be installed with apt-get install, is there an online list i ca look at? looking for vnc server spesificaly
[00:38] <neverblue> FluxD, ok, so I have to run, but I think your almost there
[00:38] <FluxD> neverblue, oh ok
[00:38] <neverblue> FluxD, check your VNC client manual, I think something like this should be covered
[00:38] <jvai> i have an issue, i copied a dvd to an iso image & it wieghs in @ 7.6gb, ok, i try to transfer it to a 60gb "store it" drive, but it copies only 4gb of the movie.. what could be creating this limit? & there's room euff on the external drive
[00:38] <evil_tech> solexious: just use synaptics search function
[00:38] <EADG_> mular: hehe, that works. Use "exit" next time, that will log you out of the tty.
[00:38] <evil_tech> jvai:is the drive FAT32?
[00:38] <FluxD> neverblue, I dont think this is a client error but how do I start a KDE session ?
[00:38] <Steve2922> is there a data structure similar to java's arraylist in python?
[00:39] <mular> solexious, just go to system > admin > synaptic package manager .. also you could do applications > add/remove and just search for what you want
[00:39] <solexious> evil_tech: how do i do that?
[00:39] <jvai> i dont know @ solexious
[00:39] <willscarlet^^> what is the command for terminal please ??
[00:39] <soldats> Steve2922, python has arrays
[00:39] <Goupil418> t35t0: what is wpa_gui for
[00:39] <pike_> jvai: classic fat32 problem
[00:39] <evil_tech> solexious: open synaptic and there is a search button at thetop
[00:39] <solexious> Sorry, forgot to add im using server version
[00:39] <soldats> willscarlet^^, gnome-terminal
[00:39] <neto> steve2922: you should go to a python channel for that, but u can use lists
  thankyou
[00:39] <mular> EADG, ah ok, ya when I did vnc in full screen it wouldn't let me alt tab it away or do anything.. it kept bringing back the full window.. is there a way to force something to mimize like alt-enter or something?
[00:39] <evil_tech> solexious: oh
[00:40] <astro76> solexious: 'aptitude search', 'apt-cache search'
[00:40] <jvai> solexious, u kno what.. it acted funky when i connected this drive to an xp box... :(
[00:40] <tweak^_> \
[00:40] <soldats> willscarlet^^, err neato was right array in python is a list but works the same
[00:40] <jvai> now alot of permissions arent mine @ solexious
[00:40] <CrashOblong> I'm having a problem getting connected with ubuntu, I'm looking for some help.
[00:40] <rhs> solexious: do "apt cache search <name>"
[00:40] <FluxD> So can anyone else help me with a VNC problem?
[00:40] <|Quest|> evil_tech ic
[00:40] <pike_> jvai: you can use split like split -b 200k file.iso then move the split files over
[00:40] <solexious> what you on about jvai?
[00:40] <Gekkomon_Shogun> What up
  im trying to right click desktop to open in terminal
[00:40] <patogen> What browser besides firefox is?
[00:40] <pike_> jvai: dont use 200k of course
[00:40] <edp2008> hi, does anyone know how to get an echo mia soundcard working with alsa? I've installed the drivers but alsa doesn't see it. details for my system are on http://pastebin.ca/859188
[00:40] <jvai> oooo
[00:41] <Goupil418> what is wap_gui program used for
[00:41] <LjL> !browsers > patogen    (patogen, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:41] <evil_tech> i'm going to be pissed if this array doesnt work after watching these stupid initialization progress things popping up
[00:41] <EADG_> mular: not that I'm aware of, but I'm not very familiar with Gnome. You could probly make a key short-cut for that though.
[00:41] <solexious> astro, thank you
[00:41] <mular> EADG,  you use KDE?
[00:41] <bod_> does anyone no where i can find some good noob programming tutorials?
[00:41] <julio> what command do i have to use to Scan something with my mutifunction?
[00:41] <jvai> solexious,  i'm on dapper, with coffemate.. lol
[00:41] <soldats> willscarlet^^, as in a file
[00:41] <ari_stress> morning all :D
[00:41] <FluxD> So can anyone else help me with a VNC problem?
[00:41] <Goupil418> bod: C++?
[00:41] <patogen> LjL: Thank you
[00:41] <EADG_> mular: System --> Prefrances --> Key Board Short cuts.
[00:42] <jvai> solexious, "split is a command line utility?
[00:42] <bod_> Goupil418: yer
[00:42] <soldats> bod_, try out python for begginers
[00:42] <EADG_> mular: I just reloaded all my computers with Gutsy from Kubuntu Dapper.
[00:42] <Goupil418> bod: you can learn basic programming on http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/alan.gauld/
[00:42] <bod_> soldats: google search yer?
[00:42] <mular> EADG, thanks :) I been thinking about trying KDE soon on my laptop - is that a huge difference over using gnome?
[00:42] <ari_stress> FluxD: what's the problem?
[00:42] <willscarlet^^> soldats , i meant .... opening from the filesystem browser, and telling it to open a certain folder in terminal
[00:42] <solexious> Javi, not sure why your talking to me mate :)
[00:43] <Gekkomon_Shogun> i was thinking about adding more space for linux and was what i could use to back up my information
[00:43] <FluxD> ari_stress, I connected to the remote machine running the server fine but I am getting a blank/grey/striped screen
[00:43] <Goupil418> bod: here is a C++ website for anyone http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/introduction.html
[00:43] <EADG_> mular: not much diffrent, Gnome has a diffrent "feel" though.
[00:43] <bod_> soldats: cheers
[00:43] <jvai> ?? @ solexious scroll up... u just gave me info in splittin an iso image.. ??
[00:43] <mular> EADG, ah ok thanks for all your help :)
[00:43] <ari_stress> FluxD: how do you connect to it?
[00:43] <EADG_> n/p
[00:43] <FluxD> ari_stress, thru tightvnc viewer
[00:44] <solexious> nope
[00:44] <soldats> willscarlet^^, is there an option in preference of the file to open in terminal. if so the command is gnome-terminal
[00:44] <solexious> i asked the channel a question
[00:44] <mular> bod_,  check out http://hetland.org/writing/instant-hacking.html  to it covers some basic info with python - thats the language I am starting with
[00:44] <Darkmystere> Well can some 1 help me i cant get my Basic IRC bot to connect to my channel .... It gives me NOTICE AUTH :**** No identd (auth) Response
[00:44] <soldats> bod_, what is yer
[00:44] <jvai> oooops.. that was pike
[00:44] <Darkmystere> Btw its writtin in Perl
[00:44] <jvai> my bad @ solexious
[00:44] <Darkmystere> i mean python
[00:44] <bod_> soldats: yer = yes/yeah
[00:44] <solexious> hehe, np mate
[00:44] <jvai> thanks pike
[00:44] <soldats> bod_, figured just checking
[00:44] <edp2008> anyone know about alsa? is this the right place?
[00:44] <willscarlet^^> soldats ,many thanks
[00:45] <bod_> soldats: lol,.,.kk cheers
[00:45] <bod_> mular: cheers dude
[00:45] <ballongen> TheLynx: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8476
[00:45] <jvai> pike_, is "split" a command line utility?
[00:45] <soldats> willscarlet^^, np i havent used gnome in a while but i believe its possible the way i stated :P good luck
[00:45] <evil_tech> jvai: yes
[00:45] <maverik> quit
[00:45] <jvai> ooo ok. man split.. lol
[00:45] <pike_> jvai: yeah
[00:46] <Darkmystere> Ive even tried it on diffrent channels no luck
[00:46] <pike_> jvai: its not too bad though
[00:46] <iuri> join #git
[00:46] <TheLynx> ballongen: guess you found your solution?
[00:46] <soldats> bod_, if your interested in programming for begginers look into "how to think like a computer scientist" or travel on to #python and ask :)
[00:46] <ToMaK> can ubuntu run an EXE prog???????
[00:46] <Kuwanger> How do I tell what program is blanking the screen in X?
[00:46] <Starnestommy> ToMaK: using wine
[00:46] <pike_> !wine | ToMaK
[00:46] <ubotu> ToMaK: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[00:46] <evil_tech> ToMaK:with wine
[00:46] <kitche> ToMaK: well with wine it can but some exe might not work
[00:46] <FluxD> ari_stress, u there?
[00:47] <ballongen> TheLynx: yeah, ATI as usual
[00:47] <bod_> soldats: cheers for the info dude,.,. i appreciate it
[00:47] <ndee> what's a good dock to use for gnome?
[00:47] <pike_> ToMaK: viruses are notoriously hard to get to run
[00:47] <jvai> got it @ pike_ thank alot man
[00:47] <ToMaK> all my rispond:thx......
[00:47] <soldats> np
[00:47] <ari_stress> FluxD: yes. sorry i was staring at another window
[00:47] <ToMaK> oo
[00:47] <FluxD> ari_stress, thru tightvnc viewer :)
[00:47] <ToMaK> thin i'm going to use ubuntu
[00:47] <ari_stress> FluxD: how do you set the vncserver pc?
[00:47] <Goupil418> I love Ubuntu
[00:47] <evil_tech> ToMaK: congrats on an excellent choice of OS
[00:48] <pike_> ToMaK: for most common windows apps there is a linux equivanent so usually the transition isnt too bad
[00:48] <TheLynx> ballongen: not my fault this time regarding the hardware choice. free laptop from work. trying to do the best of it. discarded vista even before I tried it ;-)
[00:48] <ToMaK> thx
[00:48] <ballongen> TheLynx: something with drawing the pixmaps
[00:48] <FluxD> ari_stress, thru the wiki toutorial while connected thru putty
[00:48] <Kuwanger> Also, how do I tell what program is capturing shortcuts and responding to them?
[00:48] <Goupil418> my computer actually looks like it's a matrix's computer
[00:48] <ToMaK> yeah it's true
[00:48] <Darkmystere> !info identd | Darkmystere
[00:48] <TheLynx> ballongen: ah. interesten
[00:48] <rhs> jvai: there's also lxsplit : http://www.freebyte.com/hjsplit/#linux
[00:48] <solexious> Any one know a vnc server I can use for ubuntu 7.10 server
[00:48] <ari_stress> FluxD: basically there are 2 ways to set vncserver:
[00:48] <TheLynx> ballongen: at least we're getting closer
[00:48] <ToMaK> i already tried to use the compiz once bt i'm still a noob
[00:48] <ballongen> TheLynx: yup, "they" are working on it
[00:48] <ToMaK> i mess p the CUBE
[00:49] <TheLynx> ballongen: might take a while then
[00:49] <ari_stress> FluxD: 1. by using vino-preferences (gnome), and 2. by through X itself
[00:49] <jvai> aaaw, it's bookmark'd! thnx rhs
[00:49] <ballongen> i would like that amds orders to ati to release opensource drivers have some effects soon
[00:49] <Darkmystere> Can anyone help?
[00:49] <ballongen> TheLynx: yeah, too bad im getting my ati gfx cards for free :8
[00:49] <ballongen> i would prefere nvidia in this choise
[00:50] <ari_stress> FluxD: can you nmap to the vncserver server to see if port tcp 5900 is open?
[00:50] <linux__> anybody know anything about post fix?
[00:50] <ari_stress> linux__: what about postfix?
[00:50] <ballongen> linux__: how imaginating nickname
[00:50] <linux__> how do you add mail boxes or users?
[00:50] <ballongen> users by adduser
[00:50] <FluxD> ari_stress, I am sitting on windows now and I connect to the server using putty. Can I still use nmap ?
[00:50] <Darkmystere> !info  bidentd, gidentd, midentd, nullidentd, oidentd | Darkmystere
[00:51] <linux__> do that in CLI or terminal?
[00:51] <ballongen> linux__: try a postfix channel
[00:51] <linux__> ok
[00:51] <linux__> thanks
[00:51] <ari_stress> FluxD: i'm afraid not
[00:51] <ari_stress> FluxD: what is the url of the wiki?
[00:51] <kitche> Darkmystere: msg the bot if your lookign for something for yourself makes the channel much more cleaner
[00:51] <solexious> Any one know a vnc server I can use for ubuntu 7.10 server *ie is command line and does not require gui capture*
[00:51] <uniqueminds> does anyone know how to put my tv as secondary screen ?
[00:51] <FluxD> ari_stress, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH
[00:52] <Darkmystere> kitche:............Thanks for the tip...
[00:52] <ToMaK> any one want to see my art???
[00:52] <misslecommander> who was the one that had suggested the url to change refresh rate for my monitor ?
[00:53] <ari_stress> FluxD: watch the vncserver pc, there might be a windows asking for permission when you connect to it :D
[00:53] <Owleto> Do you know if someone in ubuntu intend to release a fglrx package for cards pre-radeon 9500?
[00:53] <FluxD> ari_stress, well it asks me for a pass and and I enter pass but after that the screen is blank/grey etc
[00:54] <kitche> Owleto: well fglrx doesn't support anything below 9500 now so how can ubuntu do it?
[00:54] <DerangedDelusion> I'm trying to install wine - I've already APT-GET'd the package, but it did not create a ~/.wine directory - does it function differently now?
[00:54] <misslecommander> up_op ? it worked the modification for the refresh is now set to 85hz
[00:54] <Cromag> draconius: you need to winecfg
[00:54] <astro76> DerangedDelusion: run winecfg
[00:54] <rhs> DerangedDelusion: it should create a .wine directory on first use of wine
[00:54] <kitche> Owleto: that driver would not even be able to work with the 2.6 kernel anyways
[00:54] <Cromag> try look in the menus, there will be a winecfg
[00:54] <ToMaK> !wine
[00:55] <marshall> is there a way to use openbox window decoration themes in gnome?
[00:55] <evil_tech> you can also run winecfg from the command line
[00:55] <ari_stress> FluxD: i mean, is there any window pop up in the vncserver pc, that says someone is trying to connect, and that whether you would allow it
[00:55] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[00:56] <mneptok> marshall: use OpenBox as your WM
[00:56] <FluxD> ari_stress, I have no gui on the server
[00:56] <DerangedDelusion> Do I need to sudo winecfg? Cause it's spitting ALOT of errors
[00:56] <Owleto> kitche: huh, a bit confused because Ati have fglrx for 9200 pro on their web pages... maybe I'm wrong
[00:56] <ari_stress> oh
[00:56] <marshall> mneptok: how would that change my life though?
[00:56] <kitche> Owleto: yeah did you notice the date on that driver though
[00:56] <astro76> DerangedDelusion: no no sudo
[00:56] <ari_stress> FluxD: i think i cannot help more
[00:56] <mneptok> marshall: a change from Metacity to OB? dunno. you tell me.
[00:57] <FluxD> ari_stress, thx
[00:57] <marshall> mneptok: but i dont know either
[00:57] <ari_stress> FluxD: if there is no GUI, then there will be no vnc view :D
[00:57] <marshall> mneptok: im scared man.
[00:57] <Owleto> kitche: didn't downloaded... I suppose it must be an old version
[00:57] <ari_stress> FluxD: vnc is for GUI desktop
[00:57] <FluxD> ari_stress, how do I install a GUI then :)
[00:57] <astro76> DerangedDelusion: gui programs are often very verbose when launched from the terminal but it's often ok ;)
[00:57] <mneptok> marshall: Metacity is the GNOME WM. use OB in its place. then you can use OB themes with GNOME.
[00:57] <ari_stress> FluxD: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[00:58] <FluxD> ari_stress, let me try that and see how that works out
[00:58] <ari_stress> FluxD: ok
[00:58]  * mneptok wonders why people bother with VNC when X forwarding works so well
[00:58] <marshall> mneptok: ok, wish me luck bro
[00:58] <FluxD> mneptok, link?
[00:59] <kitche> mneptok: prbably because most people either want a full desktop or they don't feel like setting up X forwarding myself I m the full desktop person but I use freenx for that when it works that is
[00:59] <linux__> ok, im back
[00:59] <linux__> is there a GUI for post fix?
[00:59] <ridge-meister> what channel can i join to discuss circuits?
[00:59] <astro76> ridge-meister: #electronics
[01:00] <mneptok> FluxD: http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/XoverSSH/X-over-SSH2.html
[01:00] <ridge-meister> thank you astro76 :)
[01:00] <davidwong> anyone know how to make /tmp exec,? without rebooting??
[01:00] <Owleto> kitche: The drivers that ati offers for Radeon 9200pro are old, and probably even slower that the open version, so installing them will not help my poor PIII. That is the point?
[01:00] <mneptok> davidwong: sudo chmod -R -x+X /tmp
[01:00] <kitche> Owleto: well they might not even install on a 2.6 kernel is my point
[01:01] <linux__> how do you stop a program thats inetrfering with Apache?
[01:01] <Owleto> kitche: thanks
[01:01] <uniqueminds> how to install .run files ?
[01:01] <gmoore> i just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu. updates ran and installed compiz fusion etc. rebooted. how do i now turn it on and check out the prettiness?
[01:01] <kitche> uniqueminds: chmod +x <file>.run ./ <file.run or sh <file>.run
[01:02] <evil_tech> gmoore:system->preferences->appearance
[01:02] <evil_tech> i think
[01:02] <filthpig> gmoore, I bet it's already running
[01:02] <davidwong> mneptok: how do i make it noexec after i finish?
[01:02] <evil_tech> im on my server so no gui
[01:02] <FluxD> mneptok,ty
[01:02] <filthpig> but not with fancy-pants animations and stuff
[01:02] <gmoore> in appearances i went to visual effects and set it to 'extra'
[01:02] <marshall> mneptok: is there a way i can continue using compiz with openbox window decorations?
[01:03] <mneptok> marshall: no idea. i don;t use compositing.
[01:03] <linux__> Is there a GUI used in Ubuntu for postfix?
[01:03] <marshall> mneptok: why not?
[01:03] <mneptok> davidwong: /tmp is a directory. it should always have the execute bit
[01:03] <Zermelo> what would be the simplest way to copy over everything in a previous installation of Ubuntu to a new install?  I don't suppose I could just do a new install, then copy over all the old folders?
[01:03] <stbcomp> Is anybody able to see my messages?
[01:03] <mneptok> marshall: i prefer reliability over pretty
[01:03] <filthpig> gmoore, then you should have something fancy to look at ;) You can also customize the effects, but you need to install a package for it. I don't remember what it was, though
[01:04] <filthpig> Zermelo, that should work out nicely
[01:04] <Humanzy> Hey guys, Feisty has seriously destroyed my whole system, I had flash worked, it now crashs all the time, and doesn't play audio at all.  Azereus doesn't work anymore, and whenever I try moving files around in the graphical display for too long the whole thing fails and I can't view the contents of any folders or open any file because linux can no longer recognize the file type
[01:04] <marshall> mneptok: im sorry
[01:04] <gmoore> filthpig: where though? running firefox etc i dont see any magic happening. i want to see spinning cubes and shit on fire and chrome spheres on checkerboards
[01:04] <Zermelo> filthpig: really, so there is no registry settings or anything i have to worry about ??
[01:05] <gmoore> oh shi i moved the window and it's all wavy
[01:05] <gmoore> cool
[01:05] <Humanzy> i'm seriously considering just installing xp again
[01:05] <linux__> Is there a GUI used in Ubuntu for postfix?
[01:05] <kitche> !language | gmoore
[01:05] <ubotu> gmoore: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[01:05] <linux__> anybody use webmin?
[01:05] <kitche> gmore: you probably want to install ccsm
[01:05] <LjL> !webmin > linux__    (linux__, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:05] <FluxD> mneptok,so it gives u a gui if u install kubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-desktop ?
[01:05] <rhs> Zermelo-Fraenkel: the basis of mathematics
[01:05] <mneptok> Zermelo: you'll need to copy everything from your home. includionh hidden files. rsync is your friend.
[01:05] <misslecommander> omg, this is insane. i spend more time fixing linux than using it
[01:05] <neto> Humanzy:  try making a fresh install of 7.10
[01:05] <misslecommander> now new problem per usual
[01:06] <linux__> cool in that, ebox then?
[01:06] <neto> Humanzy:  dont use azureus
[01:06] <misslecommander> i double click on Network icon on desktop, now it doesnt bring anythign up
[01:06] <LjL> linux__: i think so
[01:06] <Zermelo> rhs: indeed, set theory is one of the proposed foundations of mathematics
[01:06] <misslecommander> this is for the birds
[01:06] <mneptok> FluxD: any X-based GUI on any Unix-like machine can, in theory, be displayed on any other Unix machine. or X-capable Windows or Mac.
[01:06] <iCEifer> can anyone view this under ubuntu: http://apex.eng.usf.edu/sample/sample.asx  ?
[01:06] <|ns|nR8> im the opposite misslecommander. im bored cause everything always works
[01:07] <stbcomp> Does anybody else have problems with samba shares when using "Save As" in applications?
[01:07] <linux__> how do you uninstall webmin?
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !webmin
[01:07] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.
[01:08] <uniqueminds> how can i be superuser ?
[01:08] <astro76> !sudo | uniqueminds
[01:08] <ubotu> uniqueminds: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[01:08] <Kuwanger> How do I configure power management?
[01:08] <Humanzy> ok i've got a question, does anyone know which mirror for downloading a ubuntu product is closest to washington
[01:08] <uniqueminds> thnx
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo
[01:08] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[01:09] <astro76> uniqueminds: yes remember gksudo too
[01:09] <uniqueminds> thnx allot guys
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:09] <uniqueminds> im allready 2 days busy to get ubuntu working
[01:09] <stbcomp> Can somebody confirm my messages are getting through please
[01:09] <uniqueminds> i only can boot with recovery mode
[01:09] <astro76> yes stbcomp
[01:09] <stbcomp> thanks
[01:10] <ogre> stbcomp:  you mean on irc?
[01:10] <stbcomp> yep
[01:10] <astro76> stbcomp: you'll do better asking your question rather than asking if anyone had the problem
[01:10] <ogre> oh, well i c them
[01:10] <stbcomp> okay thanks
[01:10] <FluxD> so does server install have TWM as its window manager ?
[01:10] <astro76> FluxD: no X anything
[01:10] <stbcomp> I try to Save As in some applications, but my samba shares don't show as an option
[01:11] <astro76> stbcomp: mounted through gnome? (places menu)
[01:11] <stbcomp> yep
[01:11] <evil_tech> server install has no GUI
[01:11] <FluxD> astro76, so what in ubuntu has twm as default wm ?
[01:11] <stbcomp> some apps work some, like firefox don't
[01:11] <astro76> stbcomp: yeah not all programs work with GnomeVFS, you'll want to mount it for real
[01:11] <Jack_Sparrow> uniqueminds: Can we assume you have used sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:11] <Starnestommy> FluxD: if you're using gnome, metacity's the default
[01:11] <erat123> when i went to a java page on firefox, a window popped up letting me install a plugin for java.  i picked the first one.  now i cant view java applets.  any idea how to get back to that install window?
[01:11] <uniqueminds> nope you cant
[01:12] <evil_tech> ;( i should have known this array wouldnt work
[01:12] <ballongen> damn, metacity is FAST in comparision to compiz :)
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !java
[01:12] <stbcomp> okay, I"m a noob here, any how=to's on that?
[01:12] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[01:12] <soldats> erat123, reload the page
[01:12] <astro76> FluxD: no desktops I'm aware of use it as a window manager
[01:12] <misslecommander> anything work roght on this OS, its so unstable. i do nothing, and my NetworkManager just stops working although i have internet connection, its really getting stupid by now
[01:12]  * mary-kate is just here, observing
[01:12] <erat123> soldats: i did, it keeps using the installed program now
[01:12] <mary-kate> this way i can learn more on ubuntu
[01:12] <marshall> dies anybody know how i can use openbox as the window manager and compiz at the same time?
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> uniqueminds: Boot recovery mode...  run that command.. select vesa mode and 1024 max res.. to get basic gui access.. then we can work on your video card monitor setup
[01:13] <topbloke> what are the system requirements for server edition 7.10?
[01:13] <soldats> erat123, scroll up and look what Jack_Sparrow posted with ubotu
[01:13] <astro76> FluxD: why do you ask?
[01:13] <gmoore> in compizconfig what key is "Super"?
[01:13] <mary-kate> ubotu? lol
[01:13] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[01:13] <astro76> gmoore: windows key
[01:13] <gmoore> astro76: ah.
[01:13] <misslecommander> how do i Fix or Reinstall Network Manager so the dumb things works right again ? do nothing and it just fails
[01:13] <FluxD> astro76, apparently my server company installed that on my server =/
[01:13] <astro76> FluxD: ah, yeah it would be a good light wm to use for vnc I guess
[01:14] <marshall> :o?
[01:14] <misslecommander> it works right for hours on end, now just decides it dont want to work anymore
[01:14] <astro76> FluxD: it is often used for that
[01:14] <misslecommander> this OS sucks
[01:14] <mary-kate> ubuntu sucks you mean?
[01:14] <mary-kate> no it doesn't
[01:14] <mary-kate> i likey
[01:14] <FluxD> astro76, I couldnt get it working under vnc and so I had to download ubuntu-desktop worth 2 gbs :/
[01:14] <misslecommander> its retarded, nothign works for more than so long, then it dcides it will never work again, ia ma fed up with this
[01:15] <stbcomp> Hey I've only used it for about 5 months and it works brilliantly in most ways
[01:15] <uniqueminds> thnx jack_sparrow
[01:15] <luchador> any ideas why i cant get my usb adapter to work on 7.10
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> misslecommander: Please behave..
[01:15] <luchador> but it worked on 6.06
[01:15] <mary-kate> i likey ubuntu
[01:15] <FluxD> misslecommander, its always iser error usually
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> uniqueminds: cool..
[01:15] <luchador> my linksys wusgb54g usb adapter
[01:15] <mary-kate> i keep it working
[01:15] <misslecommander> Network Manager, the one by default starts in Ubuntu, decides it will no longer work
[01:15] <cishpix> What should I do if I want to download a website to my HD? what's command should I use??
[01:15] <stbcomp> That's the first thing I realized missilecommander
[01:15] <mary-kate> i did a user error the other day
[01:15] <topbloke> what are the system requirements of Ubuntu Server Edition
[01:15] <uniqueminds> im gonna try it right now brb
[01:15] <topbloke> ?
[01:15] <misslecommander> my connection works as you can see, but it says i dont have a connection, and the Netwrok Settings take 10 minutes before i can view them
[01:16] <mary-kate> i deleted ALL packages needed
[01:16] <mary-kate> LOL
[01:16] <mary-kate> now, that there, is a BIG booboo lol
[01:16] <misslecommander> you people must be crazy to think this is stable at the least
[01:16] <mneptok> misslecommander: what NIC chipset? did you ever edit you interfaces file by hand?
[01:16] <kitche> misslecommander: well network manager isn't the most stable program
[01:16] <mary-kate> it is if you know how to outsmart it
[01:16] <misslecommander> if i remove and re-install Network Manager will the internet still work ?
[01:16] <mneptok> misslecommander: and please stop the random insulting comments
[01:16] <rhs> cishpix: there must be some web crawler
[01:16] <misslecommander> i know how to use ifup/down
[01:16] <stbcomp> Call me crazy, but this is WAY more stable than windoze
[01:17] <rhs> cishpix: harvestman
[01:17] <un_op> misslecommander, sure -- it's an entirely optional package
[01:17] <goodhabit> Hello. Where I can find how to make my own *.deb files?
[01:17] <misslecommander> will ifup/down still work even without Network Manager ?
[01:17] <albatross> alllo
[01:17] <cishpix> rhs: u meant that the program name is harvestman or web crawler?
[01:17] <un_op> misslecommander, yes
[01:17] <FluxD> whats the command to restart x thru command line ?
[01:17] <misslecommander> un_op : thank you
[01:17] <rhs> cishpix: it's harversman
[01:17] <astro76> !packaging | goodhabit
[01:17] <ubotu> goodhabit: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[01:17] <un_op> FluxD, /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[01:17] <un_op> FluxD, sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[01:17] <cishpix> rhs: OK, thanks very much. I'll google it
[01:18] <FluxD> ok
[01:18] <misslecommander> i would rather have it so it works, but i am sick of repairing things that seem to die for no reason ohter than bad probgramming
[01:18] <FluxD> thx un_op
[01:18]  * filthpig yawns
[01:18] <astro76> misslecommander: I am sick of you complaining in here for days instead of asking questions
[01:18] <ogre> FluxD:  why not just ctrl-alt-backspace?
[01:18] <billenium> did someone highlight me by any chance??
[01:18] <FluxD> ogre, no gui
[01:18] <mneptok> misslecommander: they work perfectly well for thousands of people. now please stop with the random "this sucks!" comments.
[01:18] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander: You may want to log off and take a break.
[01:18] <misslecommander> astro : i did ask question if you didnt see
[01:18] <billenium> i mean say my name or need me*
[01:18] <mary-kate> aw, complaining isn't allowed
[01:18] <albatross> what was the question?
[01:18] <un_op> goodhabit, google debian.org for "debian packages"
[01:18] <mary-kate> i was going to complain too
[01:18] <mary-kate> lol
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> misslecommander: What you are experiencing is not normal and we would like to help. What all has been added from outside our official repos,  What scripts if any have been used to install things.
[01:19] <goodhabit> !backports
[01:19] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[01:19] <misslecommander> why do i have internet connectivity, yet, Network Manager reports i dont ? and how do i reinstall it so it works again ? apt-get ? add/remove ?
[01:19] <robthenoob> hello everyone!
[01:19] <misslecommander> i did nothing to the network for it to just die out of nowhere
[01:19] <mneptok> misslecommander: what NIC chipset? did you ever edit you interfaces file by hand?
[01:20] <filthpig> !hi | robthenoob
[01:20] <ubotu> robthenoob: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:20] <slliness> hey where should I install picasa on an amd64 machine and the installer is trying to install it to ~/picasa
[01:20] <mary-kate> when a person updates ubuntu, does that make the os even more stable?
[01:20]  * mneptok asked that about 15m ago
[01:20] <gcleric> /usr/shared/bin
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> misslecommander: Not just the network...  What you are experiencing is not normal and we would like to help. What ALL has been added from outside our official repos,  What scripts if any have been used to install things.
[01:20] <willscarlet^^> aMSN was a pain to get to the new version ... but i manages ... flithpig - cheers
[01:20] <ogre> mary-kate:  mostly yes
[01:20] <slliness> which I do not want, and synaptic has no entry for it
[01:20] <anderswc> hello, I have a dual boot pc, where can I change what OS boots by default?
[01:20] <willscarlet^^> flithpig , amsn cheers
[01:20] <mary-kate> so if i don't update, i'm asking for trouble?
[01:21] <anderswc> I looked in boot but couldn't find an appropriate file
[01:21] <robthenoob> is this channel moderated by ubuntu corp? like, it is an official channel or just community of knowledgable linux users?
[01:21] <astro76> mary-kate: are you talking about the security updates?
[01:21] <willscarlet^^> filthpig .... ill spell it right eventually :)  thanks for the hlp
[01:21] <mary-kate> yes
[01:21] <mary-kate> any of it
[01:21] <mneptok> anderswc: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:21] <Jack_Sparrow> anderswc: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:21] <rhs> anderswc: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:21] <misslecommander> mneptok : yes i did edit interfaces file, i backed it up, and restored the backup.
[01:21] <misslecommander> but i had restarted since then, all was working beautiful, till last restart, then it decise it will no longer work
[01:21] <mneptok> misslecommander: that's why you have problems
[01:21] <ogre> mary-kate:  yes, you are leaving your system vulnerable to potential attacks and buggy apps
[01:21] <astro76> mary-kate: the updates you get notified of now and then are security or critical bug fixes, definitely important to do
[01:21] <FluxD> What was the command to change window manager thru terminal.  I have no GUI.
[01:22] <mary-kate> ok
[01:22] <mary-kate> i do those when i'm notified
[01:22] <mneptok> misslecommander: NM will immmediately stop doing anything once it detects a user has made manual modifications to the ir interfaces file. so Don't Do That.
[01:22] <ogre> mary-kate:  ALWAYS update yr machine
[01:22] <misslecommander> jack_sparrow : i did no scripts, i merely changed my monitor refresh rate, and restarted, then i come back an Knetw Man and Network Man both died
[01:22] <filthpig> willscarlet^^, you can use your tab-key for nick autocompletion on most irc clients ;) Anyway, glad you liked amsn, it' s been my client of choice for a good while, although I'm currently using Pidgin
[01:22] <creeed> hello, I should export Proxy-configurations to connect from a proxy at work, I wrote some lines too in /etc/profile to do this. Now I removed the lines from /etc/profile but apt-get still use the proxy-configuration!! I want now just to desactive the proxy-configuration and go back to direct internet connection. can someone help please?
[01:22] <rhs> FluxD: create a .xsession file in your directory and put whatever windowmanager you want in it
[01:23] <jackdaw> yo yo
[01:23] <mneptok> robthenoob: some people here are Canonical employees, yes.
[01:23] <willscarlet^^> filthpig, gaim was ok while i didnt need a cam .... amsn is more configurable too
[01:23] <Geeky123> can some one help me?
[01:23] <willscarlet^^> whats pidgin .... any good ?
[01:23] <misslecommander> menptok : ok, i can understand that, but why it didnt it stop failing after the first mod, and 2 restarts later it decides to die ?
[01:23] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander: I'm confused, you tried changing your refresh rate in your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[01:23] <jackdaw> pidgin is gaim renamed
[01:23] <misslecommander> menptok : i will remove both Knet and Net Man, then i take it resinstall
[01:24] <misslecommander> will ifup/down still work though ?
[01:24] <MCSbreaker> I'm probably all backwards on it now.
[01:24] <slliness> hey where should I install picasa on an amd64 machine and the installer is trying to install it to ~/picasa
[01:24] <adub> can someone help me with my perl
[01:24] <filthpig> willscarlet^^, indeed. I'd like to see the goodness from amsn (easy adding smilies, webcam support etc) added to the stability and smoothness of pidgin, though
[01:25] <misslecommander> MSCbreak : no, i did that hours ago, mod the interfaces file, i restarted since then, then i just changed my monitor refresh, and restarted once again, i come back and both died
[01:25] <adub> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51957/    <--- perl problem been working on it for days please help
[01:25] <knighta> hello, I just installed ubuntu and I've got this atheros card that wont even show up in network manager: 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5418 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[01:25] <cosmodad> adub: #perl?
[01:25] <astro76> slliness: that might be a good choice then... if you wanted everyone to access it perhaps /opt
[01:25] <knighta> can anybody suggest a soliutin please?
[01:25] <misslecommander> i did nothing to netowrk for it to die like that, i restarted plenty of times since then with no problems, i change my refresh rate for monitor, and all goes loose
[01:26] <astro76> knighta: did you enable it in Restricted Drivers Manager?
[01:26] <jay-oh-en-2-3-4> can somebody help me get my flash working i installed gnash but that doesnt work
[01:26] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander: Ahh, gotcha.  Yes, ifup/down work independent of the network manager.  By that I mean you can configure a network in linux without any gui tools.
[01:26] <misslecommander> anyhow what spt_get i need to re-install Network Manager? thats prob all i need to know
[01:26] <kitche> !flash > jay-oh-en-2-3-4
[01:26] <adub> cosmodad i get the same error as above the first section of my past
[01:26] <adub> paste
[01:26] <slliness> astro76, there will be only one user on the machine but I did that b4 and they deleted the executable for gearth
[01:27] <knighta> astro76: I believe so: ii  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-3-generic <IP_ADDRESS>-3.10
[01:27] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker, yes, i know how to use it, but i like to use the gui if possible
[01:27] <astro76> slliness: what do you mean "they deleted the exectuable"?
[01:27] <adub> /usr/bin/perl: line 15: use: command not found    <--- cosmodad the error portion of that pastebin begins with that when i type #perl
[01:27] <adub> i think somewhat i wrote over my perl install or something like i wrote over my /usr/bin/perl file
[01:27] <adub> i dont know how
[01:27] <cosmodad> adub: you have to start your perl script by something like #!/usr/bin/perl, or use perl <scriptname> to call it.
[01:28] <neto> adub: search for a perl programming channel
[01:28] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander: Agreed, but just know that they are separate and to to answer your question, ifconfig will work without it.
[01:28] <adub> neto been in there
[01:28] <slliness> astro76, automatix installed the binary executable for google earth and the install folder in ~/ and they deleted it while house cleaning
[01:28] <slliness> ~
[01:28] <cosmodad> adub: and I was pointing out that #perl is the place to ask these questions.
[01:28] <adub> one guy just said i had something screwy going on
[01:28] <astro76> !automatix | slliness
[01:28] <ubotu> slliness: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[01:28] <coskun_diko> heya  how is command for updates ssh?
[01:28] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker ok, i will post pastbin, i keep logs of what i change and do
[01:28] <astro76> slliness: I am not at all surprised that automatix does rediculous things, but gearth and picassa are easy enough to install themselves
[01:28] <erawfish> apt-get install openssh-server
[01:29] <creeed> hello, I should export Proxy-configurations to connect from a proxy at work, I wrote some lines too in /etc/profile to do this. Now I removed the lines from /etc/profile but apt-get still use the proxy-configuration!! I want now just to desactive the proxy-configuration and go back to direct internet connection. can someone help please?
[01:29] <slliness> astro76, just is easier when not around machine
[01:29] <coskun_diko> tenks
[01:29] <erawfish> slliness: automatix is baaad news
[01:29] <astro76> slliness: well I recommend reading that link and keep in mind we don't support systems which have used it
[01:29] <erawfish> and totally unsupported here
[01:29] <slliness> astro76, is there a reason picasa is not in synaptic for amd64?
[01:29] <slliness> aside from being 32bit
[01:30] <erawfish> slliness: not Free software
[01:30] <astro76> slliness: it's not in any repo, only google distributes it afaik
[01:30] <Zermelo> if I just tared my home directory, would that include all the hidden files too?
[01:30] <erawfish> 32bit software is not in 64bit repos
[01:30] <slliness> oh right
[01:30] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander: When it goes crazy, what does ifconfig show?  does it confirm what network manager is telling you?
[01:30] <erawfish> Zermelo: tar -tvf <file>  |grep /. or  |grep .dotfile  to check
[01:30] <sarixe> hi, i'm having a pretty severe problem with OpenOffice.  when i create a new file and try to save it, it crashes and goes to a document recovery dialog.
[01:30] <astro76> slliness: I even wrote this handy page on installing it ;) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth
[01:30] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker : can you look at my pastebin ? i make logs of nearly everything i do
[01:31] <misslecommander> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52359/
[01:31] <sarixe> but if i already have an existing document, i can save it just fine.
[01:31] <misslecommander> that will show what i did, but that was hours agao and 2 restarts, then it decides it wants to die on me
[01:31] <slliness> so you think setting the installer to /opt would be good a good choice will it ask where to install the executable?
[01:31] <m2rt> "Set an environment variable named JRE_HOME to the pathname of
[01:31] <m2rt>  the directory into which you installed the JRE"  Hey anybody knows where I can set the variables...
[01:32] <erawfish> misslecommander: sudo /etc/network/interfaces
[01:32] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker : ifconfig shows proper
[01:32] <erawfish> m2rt: how did you install java?
[01:32] <erawfish> !java
[01:32] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[01:32] <m2rt> aww nice bot. thanks
[01:32] <FluxD> astro76, I need some help with this VNC :/
[01:33] <erawfish> ubotu: uninstall the sun.com binary FIRST
[01:33] <Starnestommy> erawfish: ubotu is a bot
[01:33] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker i think i keep pretty good logs, and i backup all files, just in case.
[01:34] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander:  Alright, so are you able to run 'sudo cp /home/default/Desktop/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces' ?
[01:34] <astro76> slliness: I really don't know about picasa, I do know it uses wine somehow (wheras google earth is native) so I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it
[01:34] <luchador> anyone know how to get a linksys wireless usb adapter working on ubuntu 7.10? i had it working on 6.06 then when i upgraded to 7.10 it wouldnt work
[01:34] <astro76> slliness: I'm thinking maybe it needs to write to it's directory
[01:34] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander: Good habit to be in, I do the same as I inevitably bork something on a regular basis.
[01:34] <misslecommander> MCSbreak : yes, i did backup from desktop too
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> luchador: How did you upgrade?
[01:35] <astro76> FluxD: I haven't done vnc for awhile but ask the channel and see if anyone can help ;)
[01:35] <misslecommander> MCSbrekaer, can i just uninstall both, then reinstall both ? or is it forever messed up ?
[01:35] <FluxD> astro76, I asked many times no one seems to know
[01:35] <ryanakca> what's the command for four in a row?
[01:35] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander:  And you did not get the permission denied?  Were you able to edit the interfaces file and just stick in the defaults?
[01:36] <luchador> i completely installed it
[01:36] <luchador> whiped the partition
[01:36] <willscarlet^^> filthpig, would you reccomend pidgin over gaim ?
[01:36] <luchador> pidgin > gaim ANY DAY
[01:36] <willscarlet^^> :)
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> ryanakca: /usr/games/gnect  is the path and name
[01:36] <willscarlet^^> done
[01:36] <erawfish> Starnestommy: I know but you never met my fat finger before apparently ;)
[01:36] <astro76> FluxD: what are you trying to accomplish ultimately? why do you need to vnc to your server?
[01:36] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker : the interfaces file is retruned to its original , i restarted once again to see if it fixed itm,, but it didnt
[01:36] <ryanakca> Jack_Sparrow: thanks :D
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:36] <luchador> anyone know? ive been asking all day lol
[01:36] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander: No, you can reinstall it.  try this:  'apt-get --reinstall install network-manager-gnome'
[01:37] <filthpig> willscarlet^^, it's the same thing, just a new name
[01:37] <misslecommander> perfect
[01:37] <jvai> ok good ppls... i'm ghost
[01:37] <erawfish> luchador: what chip is in it?
[01:37] <filthpig> luchador, which model is your usb adapter?
[01:37] <corinth> I'm wiping Windows off of my system! Woo!
[01:37] <luchador> its linksys wusbg54g version 4
[01:37] <mary-kate> i wiped windows vista off a new machine i bought
[01:37] <mary-kate> and put UBUNTU on
[01:37] <FluxD> astro76, ok basically it has no gui (or it had twm) so I installed ubuntu-desktop pakage then I setup VNC. I just want a server that looks like default desktop install
[01:38] <astro76> that's the only sane thing to do mary-kate
[01:38] <gmoore> is there a generic package for developer tools? eg compiler, gawk, linker, etc
[01:38] <luchador> it worked on 6.06
[01:38] <filthpig> wusb54gC, or wusb54g ? I have the C-edition and it works...sorta
[01:38] <m2rt> me too mary-kate :D
[01:38] <luchador> g
[01:38] <MCSbreaker> gmoore: 'build-essential'
[01:38] <luchador> i just did it all from terminal
[01:38] <luchador> using ifconfig and stuff
[01:38] <mary-kate> i was going to try vista
[01:38] <Gekkomon_Shogun> who knows about gameguard
[01:38] <rjune_> can anybody suggest a web-based accounting program in Ubuntu
[01:38] <mary-kate> but heard bad bad crap about it
[01:38] <luchador> but it wont work in 7.10
[01:38] <filthpig> hm
[01:38] <filthpig> weird
[01:38] <luchador> never seems to accept the dhcpoffer
[01:38] <corinth> I have a 250 gb hard drive. I'm creating a 2 gb swap partition. I want a partition for /, and the rest to go to /home. About how big should I make my root partition?
[01:39] <filthpig> mine wouldn't work until 7.10 :D
[01:39] <gmoore> MCSbreaker: thanks
[01:39] <IndyGunFreak> mary-kate: not really sure how bad iti s, but its a resource hog..., you need at least 2gigs of ram.
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> luchador: How did you upgrade  did you go through all versions or one big jump
[01:39] <MCSbreaker> mary-kate: I've run it at work for a good eight months, I'm not a big fan.
[01:39] <luchador> one big jump
[01:39] <MCSbreaker> gmoore: np
[01:39] <luchador> a 7.10 iso
[01:39] <mary-kate> lol
[01:39] <luchador> complete new install
[01:39] <mary-kate> i prefer XP over vista
[01:39] <luchador> it will scan for neighboring networks so i know its working
[01:39] <luchador> but i cant connect
[01:39] <filthpig> mary-kate, who doesn't ;)
[01:39] <mary-kate> but, ubuntu over XP
[01:40] <DG19075> I use Ubuntu for almost all that I do. Just trying to get Napster to work on this, and goom-bye Windows...
[01:40] <luchador> i switched to ubuntu like a week ago
[01:40] <luchador> love it so much
[01:40] <misslecommander> MSCbreaker : ok i did that, all looked to go, reinstalled, going to try restart now
[01:40] <luchador> never going back
[01:40] <m2rt> lol napster is still working?
[01:40] <DG19075> is a Napster subscriber
[01:40] <filthpig> luchador, sounds like the problem I had before. I could find the networks but not connect, it kept spinning on the WEP-key
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !wep
[01:41] <ubotu> WEP is totally insecure, don't use it, the full Wireless Documentation for Ubuntu can be found at:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:41] <kenan> When I am trying to ./configure tomboy-reminder-0.9 i get an error that says: configure: error: Can't find "mcs", the mono compiler in your PATH. How do I fix this?
[01:41] <mary-kate> o.O
[01:41] <corinth> I want to minimize the size of my root partition to maxamize space for a /home partition. I haev a 250 gb hard drive, about how big should I make the / partition?
[01:41] <mary-kate> we put WEP on our router, since then, it's going FASTER for connection
[01:41] <filthpig> huh
[01:41] <desertc> luchador: tell your friends and coworkers about ubuntu, and share a livecd with them so they can try it out
[01:41] <luchador> so i need to use a diff encryption?
[01:41] <corinth> I'm on the live cd right now.
[01:41] <nickrud> !find mcs | kenan
[01:41] <ubotu> kenan: Found: libxfce4mcs-client3, libxfce4mcs-dev, libxfce4mcs-manager3, xfce4-mcs-manager, xfce4-mcs-manager-dev (and 8 others)
[01:41] <luchador> i am
[01:41] <luchador> im burning copies and giving em out
[01:41] <nickrud> kenan: nope, not that one
[01:42] <mary-kate> hmmm
[01:42] <mary-kate> i should get into that
[01:42] <astro76> corinth: I'd probably make it 20 GB, which will give you plenty of room
[01:42] <mary-kate> i have TONS of copies of ubuntu, lol
[01:42] <luchador> heh
[01:42] <luchador> soooo
[01:42] <corinth> astro76: Thanks dude.
[01:42] <luchador> any workarounds for my adapter?
[01:42] <filthpig> luchador, do you get asked for the WEP/WPA-key when you're trying to connect?
[01:42] <corinth> !enter @ luchador
[01:42] <nickrud> kenan: you need mono-mcs
[01:42] <DG19075> This is one anvil-solid OS...
[01:42] <corinth> Bah, used to the suse channel. Heh.
[01:42] <luchador> yes
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> luchador: What adapter are you using.. model too if you have it
[01:42] <luchador> but im doing it from terminal
[01:43] <kenan> ahh found it in synaptic, thanks
[01:43] <luchador> linksys wireless usb adapter wusb54g
[01:43] <luchador> version 4
[01:43] <corinth> !return @ luchador
[01:43] <luchador> ?
[01:43] <luchador> use @?
[01:43] <filthpig> luchador, have you tried changing the key type? The default is "passphrase", but you also have "hex" and "ascii"
[01:43] <luchador> on 6.06 i used ifconfig and sudo iwlist wlan1 scanning etc
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> filthpig: Thanks for looking after him
[01:43] <luchador> yeah its a hex
[01:44] <rhs> luchador: isn't it iwconfig ?
[01:44] <luchador> diff commands for diff stuff
[01:44] <TigranG> Hi
[01:44] <luchador> i used this guide http://www.stoltenow.com/archives/2006/12/ubuntu_configur.html
[01:44] <dogson> tracker 0.6.3 in gutsy is so full of bugs, its currently using over 2gb ram on my system it cant be normal
[01:44] <DG19075> used a hex on my wireless setup b4 I went wired
[01:44] <filthpig> luchador, so you've selected hex in the dropdown menu too?
[01:44] <luchador> yes
[01:45] <filthpig> hmm
[01:45] <TigranG> I'm trying to get net send (message command in samba) set up correctly. I don't really know what to do. I've tried something I found off the web but its not working.
[01:45] <filthpig> try all options anyway
[01:46] <willscarlet^^> i am getting an error saying i need Glib 2.0 ..... when i run ./configure for pidgin .... my system looks to have libglib, but it wont get past it ... help?   :)
[01:46] <asdasdsa> how can i have a gif picture as my wallpaper?
[01:47] <m2rt> oh gosh I installed java on command line and now I still dont know how to: "Set an environment variable named JRE_HOME to the pathname of
[01:47] <m2rt>       the directory into which you installed the JRE"
[01:47] <filthpig> willscarlet^^, pidgin is installed by default on ubuntu
[01:47] <ilikebuntu000> right click the desktop and goto set background
[01:47] <nickrud> willscarlet^^: you're going to need a bunch of headers to compile that. Is it on fiesty?
[01:47] <ilikebuntu000> ug. theres a lot of problems
[01:47] <jumpkic1> is there a way to run a program so that it starts at a certain *nice* level
[01:47] <willscarlet^^> 7.04 ... the one before gutsy
[01:47] <ilikebuntu000> you all type fast
[01:48] <cafuego> type?
[01:48] <cafuego> we upload!
[01:48] <MCSbreaker> m2rt: try this command:  'export JRE_HOME=/PATHTOJAVA'
[01:48] <nickrud> willscarlet^^: sudo apt-get build-dep gaim will get you most if not all the deps you will need
[01:48] <ilikebuntu000> SOMEthing
[01:48] <jumpkic1> i.e. so you don't have to *renice* it afterwards
[01:48] <luchador> so anyone know?
[01:48] <Onyx> ally_xoxo: Were you able to set up the themes?
[01:48] <filthpig> well, I'm off
[01:48] <MCSbreaker> m2rt: That's only temporary, but it sets it.  If it works, we can set it up to be permanent.
[01:48] <filthpig> gonna try a few things
[01:48] <misslecommander> MCSbreak : that worked ! the Network Manager is now functional once again
[01:49] <jumpkic1> nevermind
[01:49] <jumpkic1> nice does that
[01:49] <willscarlet^^> nickrud, thanks ;)
[01:49] <jumpkic1> duh
[01:49] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker : thank you
[01:49] <TigranG> I'm trying to get net send (message command in samba) set up correctly. I don't really know what to do. I've tried something I found off the web but its not working.
[01:49] <tinin> wich flash player version do you advice me? latest one is buggy and slow as hell
[01:50] <ilikebuntu000> o is Flash player stable yet, Aagain?
[01:50] <ilikebuntu000> the flash is OK in repos?
[01:50] <Humanzy> flash player has been stable
[01:50] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander: Nice!  Glad I could be of help.  =)
[01:50] <Humanzy> ubuntu isn't stable
[01:50] <ilikebuntu000> sic
[01:50] <Humanzy> flashplayer works with most linux distros
[01:50] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker : there was one thing i noticed when that happened -> the icon for XChat had been missing, now its back
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Humanzy: Please avoid saying things like that in here
[01:51] <ilikebuntu000> s'OK thats not what i use my linux box for Anyway
[01:51] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker could XChat be responsible for breaking NetMan ?
[01:51] <HellMind> Why my gutsy tries to modprobe /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-rt/ubuntu/media/snd-hda-intel/snd-hda~ntel.ko, instead /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-rt/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda~ntel.ko, How can I correct that isue?
[01:51] <tinin> I always install flash from Adobe, but the latest version for linux just SUCKS, is slow and crashes firefox all the time
[01:51] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker : its been the only thing other than FirFox that i been running when it happened
[01:51] <HellMind> I got a new module version to be installed
[01:51] <ilikebuntu000> but did Adobe fix that thihgn?
[01:51] <tinin> Could someone link or send me a 9.48 version
[01:52] <ilikebuntu000> maybe they still didnt fix that LOL.
[01:52] <tinin> ?
[01:52] <dogson> it crashes in windows to, adobe/macromedia isnt stable :P
[01:52] <ilikebuntu000> it used a b top8ic of This channel
[01:52] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander:  Heh, weirdness.  I would guess not, but I definitely can't say for sure.   Something  was fubar that the reinstall got though.
[01:52] <ChuckFu> what is the command to unlock apt-get
[01:52] <horizxon> should a computer POST without a processor?
[01:52] <erawfish> HellMind: depelte the extaneous module and run sudo depmod -a
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !flashissues
[01:52] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker : i had Knet Installed and running as well, so i suppose it  may have been that as well
[01:52] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[01:52] <ilikebuntu000> "dont install flash" said This channel
[01:52] <TigranG> Well now it sent the message from my linux system to win xp one, but I dont receive any messages, this is my message command line in smb.conf message command = /bin/sh -c 'gedit %s;rm %s' & and I also get this message when doign smbclient -M host params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration file
[01:52] <TigranG> Is my message command wrong? :S
[01:52] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker can i use that "reinsta;;" for most any package ?
[01:52] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander: Yeah, I saw that interfaces had been touched by knet.  It's possible.
[01:52] <ilikebuntu000> ty Jack
[01:52] <HellMind> erawfish: I did but when i reboot it tries to mod probe that old module
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> ilikebuntu000: See what the bot said..  We suggest you dont.... but still tell you how to do it
[01:53] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander: Yep, that command will work to reinstall most any package.
[01:53] <erawfish> HellMind: even with depmod? I don't think so
[01:53] <HellMind> I think I will copy and overwrite the old module with the one on the kernel directory
[01:53] <misslecommander> MCSbreaker : thank you so much, i know i may complain, but its SO SO frustrating when i do nothing and things just fail. sorry
[01:53] <HellMind> I did depmod -a!
[01:53] <ilikebuntu000> yeah im fine until adobe figures out how to get flash to run like everything else runs then
[01:54] <ilikebuntu000> Then ill install 4 tux
[01:54] <erawfish> HellMind: with sudo?
[01:54] <FluxD> How do u change the default window manager ?
[01:54] <HellMind> Yes!
[01:54] <HellMind> I loaded the new module, it worked fine
[01:54] <FluxD> thru terminal
[01:54] <HellMind> I did depmod -a
[01:54] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander: No worries, I still get to that point sometimes. ;)  Glad we could get you back up.
[01:54] <IndyGunFreak> ilikebuntu000: all you have tod o is download the source from adobe.com, and it will work fine
[01:54] <ilikebuntu000> rofl das it? chiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
[01:54] <ilikebuntu000> maaaaaAn das all U had to SAY
[01:54] <HellMind> But when i reboot i got symbols errors, cuz its trying to load the old one in the ubuntu folder
[01:54] <misslecommander> i dont think i will run Knet no more, i stopped it from starting on login
[01:54] <tumbleweed__> i lost the game.
[01:54] <erawfish> HellMind: but did you sudo depmod -a ?
[01:55] <slliness> astro76, ok now my system is really screwed up
[01:55] <erawfish> lastlog slliness
[01:55] <HellMind> erawfish: yes why?
[01:55] <MCSbreaker> Good, sometimes too many cooks in the kitchen.... you know how that goes.
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> ilikebuntu000: i can't really tell if youre being a smartass, but yes, just download the source from adobe.com and folllow the instructions, and it will work fine
[01:55] <HellMind> that should overwrite the paths?
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> ilikebuntu000: That is what the link shows....
[01:55] <m2rt> MCSbreaker: the export command worked. how to make it permament?
[01:55] <erawfish> HellMind: cause you didn't say
[01:55] <slliness> astro76, is there a 64bit google earth I should have dled
[01:55] <HellMind> erawfish: I DID
[01:55] <HellMind> many times
[01:55] <FluxD> How do u change the default window manager thru terminal?
[01:55] <renliege> what is it that allows wlassistant to work independantly in Kubuntu but not in Ubuntu?
[01:55] <erawfish> you said you did depmod -a not sudo depmod -a
[01:56] <slliness> astro76, cause it freezes at the splash screen
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> ilikebuntu000: The fix seems fine for Firefox but others have isses still being worked on..
[01:56] <Ash_H> hi could someone help, im trying to update gutsy but it says "Could not download all repository indexes" and I get these errors. http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release: Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[01:56] <Ash_H> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-updates/Release: Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[01:56] <Ash_H> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-security/Release: Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[01:56] <HellMind> erawfish:  Im root
[01:56] <MCSbreaker> m2rt:  type this in a terminal:  'vi ~/.profile'   At the bottom of the text file, put in that export line you entered and save.
[01:56] <erawfish> FluxD: why not change it when you log in via gdm
[01:56] <slliness> and I told the binary to be installed to /usr/bin and now it on the desktop
[01:56] <erawfish> !root > HellMind
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Ash_H: Please do not repeat
[01:56] <FluxD> erawfish, no gui
[01:56] <HellMind> root@Thunder:/etc# depmod -a
[01:56] <HellMind> root
[01:56] <HellMind> I HACKED MY Own box
[01:56] <misslecommander> MCSbrekaer : well i come here, to soak up knowledge, as i am noob. if this breaks, i am lost. without you guys all talkin about the many things, i dont know what i would do
[01:56] <erawfish> FluxD: when you have no gui there is no point in a W;
[01:57] <asdasdsa> how can i have a gif picture as my wallpaper?
[01:57] <erawfish> start a dispaymanager and seitch it theere
[01:57] <FluxD> erawfish, well I have vnc working after I login
[01:57] <rhs> FluxD: have you tried to create a .xsession file in your home directory and put the name of the window manager in it ?
[01:57] <HellMind> Why my gutsy tries to modprobe /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-rt/ubuntu/media/snd-hda-intel/snd-hda~ntel.ko, instead /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-rt/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda~ntel.ko, How can I correct that isue?
[01:57] <misslecommander> Jack_Sparrow : thanks Jack, i know you helped me before.
[01:57] <erawfish> FluxD: what WM does vnc give you?
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> np  I know it is frustrating
[01:57] <HellMind> There must be a way to change that path
[01:57] <FluxD> erawfish, kde
[01:58] <nickrud> HellMind: you did delete the old one, right?
[01:58] <HellMind> nickrud: no
[01:58] <davidwong> anyone know that daemon for mysql to make it run faster? is it dnj something? or djn? I forgot anyone know the mysql cache software liek that? thanks
[01:58] <slliness> erawfish, ??
[01:58] <HellMind> nickrud: why i should?
[01:58] <FluxD> rhs, let me ty that
[01:58] <erawfish> FluxD: check /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager
[01:58] <MCSbreaker> misslecommander:  All good, I learn a ton in here, just lurking and trying to help.  Good place to hang out to pick up things.
[01:58] <Abyssal> hi. want to get my webcam basically running.
[01:58] <nickrud> HellMind: because you don't want it.
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !hdaintel
[01:58] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[01:58] <narothepharoh> any cool games for ubuntu 7.10?
[01:58] <erawfish> slliness: just checking what your problem was. but you ran automatix
[01:58] <Abyssal> it is from logitech and i just plug it in my usb port.
[01:58] <HellMind> nickrud: I dont want to use it right noow
[01:58] <slliness> erawfish, no I didn't
[01:58] <HellMind> nickrud: that got something to do with this?
[01:58] <nickrud> HellMind: then move it out ouf the module tree.
[01:59] <TigranG> I can send messages from my linux system to win xp one, but I dont receive any messages from windows. I'm using samba and smbclient -M <host>. This is my message command line in smb.conf message command = /bin/sh -c 'gedit %s;rm %s' & and I also get this message when doing smbclient -M host: params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration file. Any suggestions?
[01:59] <Abyssal> no reaction from ubuntu 7.10. how can i get i running?
[01:59] <HellMind> nickrud: how can i remove it?
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> narothepharoh: Lots.. FPS.. I like sauerbraten... since this is a support room, you might try asking in #Ubuntu-offtopic
[01:59] <HellMind> nickrud: inst loaded right now
[01:59] <Gekkomon_Shogun> who knows how to get gameguard to run
[01:59] <erawfish> < slliness> astro76, automatix installed the binary executable for google earth and the install folder in ~/...
[01:59] <nickrud> HellMind: mv /path/to/.ko ~/Desktop for now
[01:59] <HellMind> nickrud: then to install the new one, i must overwrite the old?
[01:59] <Shadow147> Gekkomon_Shogun | !wine
[01:59] <latergua> how can i have a gif picture as my wallpaper?
[02:00] <HellMind> nickrud: that sounds too dirty
[02:00] <emman> how do i install apache 2..2?
[02:00] <Abyssal> hi. want to get my webcam basically running. it is from logitech and i just plug it in my usb port. no reaction from ubuntu 7.10. how can i get i running?
[02:00] <slliness> erawfish, I used the http:// dl for google earth and followed astro76 directions
[02:00] <erawfish> emman: apt-get install apache2.2
[02:00] <erawfish> electrofreak_: you said you ran automatix. that's enough for me. HAND
[02:00] <nickrud> HellMind: you must _remove_ the old one. It's not dirty, you simply have a conflict. If the build had been compatible, it would have overwritten it during the install
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> latergua: USe a tool to convert it.. gimp may do it
[02:00] <narothepharoh> jack_ sparrow: thanks
[02:00] <MCSbreaker> m2rt: After you've done that, open up another terminal and try 'echo $JRE_HOME'  and make sure it worked.
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> narothepharoh: np
[02:00] <emman> erroe
[02:00] <emman> error
[02:01] <slliness> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth astro76 erawfish
 i want the picture to move in wallpaper
[02:01] <HellMind> nickrud: why it doesnt look for that module in the right path?, where is the path predefined?
[02:01] <erawfish> emman: WHAT error. pastebin ALL of the output
[02:01] <emman> Reading state information... Done
[02:01] <emman> E: Couldn't find package apache2.2
[02:01] <erawfish> emman: oh: apt-get install apache2
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> latergua: /j #Compiz  and see what they can do with effects...  ccsm  emerald etc..
[02:01] <erawfish> sorry, mea culpa
[02:02] <emman> same error
[02:02] <erawfish> pastebin your sources.list
[02:02] <nickrud> HellMind: Look. You've been told the fix. You have used a source package that was not adapted to the ubuntu build, so manual intervention is required.
[02:02] <creeed> hello, I should export Proxy-configurations to connect from a proxy at work, I wrote some lines too in /etc/profile to do this. Now I removed the lines from /etc/profile but apt-get still use the proxy-configuration!! I want now just to desactive the proxy-configuration and go back to direct internet connection. can someone help please?
[02:02] <dre> Does anyone use Foxit to read PDF's? For the life of me I can't figure out how to make it print page numbers
[02:02] <kitche> creeed: source /etc/profile
[02:02] <astro76> slliness: it's 32bit only AFAIK
[02:03] <HellMind> nickrud: ok i will delete it
[02:03] <kitche> creeed: that's the command you need to use for what you want
[02:03] <erawfish> creeed: have you logged out and logged back in?
[02:03] <HellMind> nickrud: i wonder if im using old modules beside that one
[02:03] <erawfish> creeed: also what does "env" say?
[02:03] <icesword> hi,i want to ask ,is mysql free or business,and if not,what database should i use?
[02:03] <latergua> ok
 ok
[02:03] <misslecommander> dre : doesnt your printer config allow you to put page numbers ?
[02:03] <nickrud> HellMind: quite possible. the !hdaintel page points out the module(s) you have to delete
[02:04] <nickrud> !hdaintel | HellMind
[02:04] <ubotu> HellMind: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[02:04] <slliness> astro76, it is only the installer bin on my desktop, apologizes, but it still hangs on splash screen
[02:04] <erawfish> icesword: mysql is GPLed for non commercial use (very stupid license)
[02:04] <dre> i looked through all the settings, didnt see anything, its a brother printer
[02:04] <erawfish> but basically it is GPLed until you want support from them
[02:04] <BlubberBla> http://selbst-schuld.3-a.net/?go=76cc588619e
[02:04] <astro76> slliness: you should not put anything yourself in /usr (except in /usr/local) as shown on that page
[02:04] <nickrud> erawfish: isn't that a mis application of the licence? (and never mind, off topic)
[02:04] <luis> can someone tell me the command for running apps? please
[02:04] <icesword> erawfish, what do you mean ,by very stupid license,is my question stupid?
[02:04] <astro76> slliness: but it's 32bit
[02:04] <creeed> erawfish, :$ env | grep proxy
[02:04] <creeed> http_proxy=http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/
[02:04] <creeed> no_proxy=localhost,<IP_ADDRESS>/8,*.local
[02:05] <slliness> astro76, erawfish and it installed to applications menu as well
[02:05] <latergua> how can i have a moving g if picture as my wallpaper(Ubuntu)?
[02:05] <slliness> but still hangs
[02:05] <erawfish> nickrud: imho yes, it is what mysql ab claims/claimed. total BS
[02:05] <nickrud> luis: you would use the apps's name, like   firefox   in the terminal
[02:05] <luis> danke
[02:05] <rhs> latergua: moving gif won't make a background moving
[02:05] <creeed> erawfish, but in /etc/profile the proxy-configuration is deactived!
[02:05] <kitche> latergua: I know e17 can do that not sure ab about anything
[02:05] <luis> thanks nickrud
[02:05] <slliness> astro76, shouldn't matter unless multi user though and it let me select it from drop down box
[02:05] <ks3> Creed, 'unset http_proxy'
[02:05] <erawfish> creeed: have you done what I asked?
[02:05] <icesword> erawfish, you hear me?
[02:05] <TigranG> I can send messages from my linux system to win xp one, but I dont receive any messages from windows. I'm using samba and smbclient -M <host>. This is my message command line in smb.conf message command = /bin/sh -c 'gedit %s;rm %s' & and I also get this message when doing smbclient -M host: params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration file. Any suggestions?
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> latergua: Please... Join....   /j #Compiz  and see what they can do with effects...
[02:06] <erawfish> icesword: very stupid MYSQL AB company
[02:06] <astro76> slliness: it has nothing to do with multiuser, it has to do with what is managed by APT
[02:06] <creeed> erawfish, you mean logged out an in back, yes
[02:06] <astro76> linux is always multiuser anyway
[02:06] <erawfish> creeed: I asked you more than that
[02:06] <MCSbreaker> icesword: They let anyone use it, without restrictions if it's a home user.  If it's used in business, then they would like you to pay.
[02:06] <erawfish> astro76: unless you boot in singler user mode...
[02:06] <dre> thanks anyways! bye
[02:06] <slliness> astro76, why does xchat beep everytime I type now?
[02:07] <kitche> MCSbreaker: most GPL software can be like that if they want it to be
[02:07] <creeed> erawfish, I copied what env about proxy says because the output of env is long!
[02:07] <astro76> slliness: I have no idea
[02:07] <slliness> astro76, ok
[02:07] <MCSbreaker> kitche: Yep.
[02:07] <erawfish> kitche: no it can't
[02:07] <icesword> MCSbreaker, yes ,i see,then what other database software can you advice?
[02:07] <kitche> erawfish: umm sure you can
[02:08] <erawfish> creeed: I still want to see it all. and you haven't pasted an url
[02:08] <slliness> astro76, I thought local was for multiusers and usr/bin was for current user
[02:08] <MCSbreaker> icesword: Are you going to be using it for a business?  Or just playing with it at home?
[02:08] <jussive> I've got a really nasty problem on a fresh install of Gutsy that I'd love to bounce off you -- specifically, if some of y'all could try out the little test program and see if you get the same result. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-defaults/+bug/176038
[02:08] <bkar> icesword-> postgres
[02:08] <erawfish> kitche: if something is GPL I cannot demand license paymends from you for it when you use it for business reasons and none if you use it for home reasons. if I do that the software is not under GPL simply as that
[02:08] <creeed> erawfish, can I do this on a dialog window?
[02:09] <astro76> slliness: no /usr is managed by apt, and /usr/local is for your own compiled software and other local changed (sometimes /usr is networked)
[02:09] <MCSbreaker> erawfish: Dual licensing.
[02:09] <erawfish> !paste > Creed
[02:09] <kitche> erawfish: the commerical software as more code in it then the personal one if you actually look at it
[02:09] <icesword> MCSbreaker, i want to use it for business
[02:09] <erawfish> MCSbreaker: you still have to comply with the GPL. and if you discriminate _under the GPL_ between different uses, it's not GPL anymore. end of story
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> jussive: This isnt the place for something like that.. look for a programming channel...
[02:09] <kitche> erawfish: and yes you can actually make gpl software commerical it's even in the gpl license
[02:09] <astro76> !fhs | slliness
[02:09] <ubotu> slliness: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[02:10] <jussive> Fair enough.
[02:10] <erawfish> and it doesn't matter how many licenses your distribute it under
[02:10] <ks3> icesword:  mysql community edition is free for use by anyone
[02:10] <nickrud> !offtopic | erawfish MCSbreaker and nickrud (since I started this crap)
[02:10] <ubotu> erawfish MCSbreaker and nickrud (since I started this crap): #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:10] <erawfish> kitche: I said payment for a licnese. read more carefully
[02:10] <icesword> nickrud, sorry
[02:10] <slliness> astro76, so you think /usr/local will fix it?
[02:10] <MCSbreaker> icesword: you can do what ks3 said and run the mysql community edition, or try postgres.
[02:10] <creeed> erawfish,  hmm sorry it's my first channelvisit, I dont understand what you mean :(
[02:11] <astro76> slliness: as I said twice, it's 32bit, didn't you say you are running 64bit?
[02:11] <erawfish> !paste | creeed
[02:11] <ubotu> creeed: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:11] <icesword> MCSbreaker, ok ,thank you
[02:11] <MCSbreaker> np
[02:11] <kitche> erawfish: go to -offtopic sicne I'll explain it there since the commerical mysql has more features in it then the one you can download for free from their site so it's not payment for license
[02:11] <erawfish> paste it ther
[02:11] <Creed> erawfish, eh? i already know about pastbin lol
[02:11] <creeed> thx
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: Catch you tomorrow...  Goodnight
[02:11] <erawfish> kitche: the ubuntu mysql is GPL. even if I power my hosting company with it (clearly commercial) I can use it. end of story
[02:11] <slliness> astro76, when I try to launch it via command line it says its already running
[02:11] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow: see you
[02:11] <TigranG> I can send messages from my linux system to win xp one, but I dont receive any messages from windows. I'm using samba and smbclient -M <host>. This is my message command line in smb.conf message command = /bin/sh -c 'gedit %s;rm %s' & and I also get this message when doing smbclient -M host: params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration file. Any suggestions?
[02:12] <willscarlet^^> ive just installed all the gaim dependancies ..... for pidgin .... ive configured, and run 'make' but 'make install' wont complete without libpurple
[02:12] <astro76> slliness: you should probably kill it
[02:12] <kitche> erawfish: ok whatever you say I knowt he gpl license a lot better then you
[02:12] <slliness> astro76, why would it matter if it 32 in 64 bit environment
[02:12] <erawfish> lol
[02:12] <nickrud> willscarlet^^: the general rule of thumb is   apt-cache search libpurple | grep dev  to find the headers you need
[02:12] <Ubunoob> need help getting wireless working. ubuntu 7.10 shows a wireless signal and connects, but still no internet.
[02:12] <creeed> erawfish, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52360/
[02:12] <killick> Hi.  How can one tell which /dev/<file> belongs to a usb device?
[02:12] <willscarlet^^> nickrud, thanks man
[02:12] <sgrover> New motherboard, same *buntu install.  My NIC is now recognized as eth2 - I need this to be eth1 so that my VMware virtual nics work as expected.  Anyone know how to reset the eth0 designation?
[02:13] <erawfish> creeed: grep PROXY ~/.*
[02:13] <nickrud> willscarlet^^: many times they'll say they they want   purple , you tack lib on the front and do the search
[02:13] <willscarlet^^> nickrud, it finished without appearing to do anything
[02:13] <astro76> slliness: because it won't work
[02:13] <erawfish> creeed: any output?
[02:13] <TigranG> nickrud: Maybe you know something about this: I can send messages from my linux system to win xp one, but I dont receive any messages from windows. I'm using samba and smbclient -M <host>. This is my message command line in smb.conf message command = /bin/sh -c 'gedit %s;rm %s' & and I also get this message when doing smbclient -M host: params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in...
[02:13] <TigranG> ...configuration file. Any suggestions?
[02:13] <johnficca> Hi I'm trying to install the ati driver in ubuntu 7.10 and its asking me something I've not see before its this *** compiz-manager (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?
[02:13] <|Quest|_>  if i ssh or telnet any shell. can i be harmed or what harm can i make to the shell?
[02:13] <slliness> I have run other 32 binaries in a 64 bit b4
[02:14] <nickrud> willscarlet^^: libpurple may not be in feisty.  you may have to compile that lib
[02:14] <johnficca> what should I say?
[02:14] <slliness> I have run other 32 binaries in a 64 bit b4 astro76
[02:14] <leros> i'm having some troubles with a remote connection to an ubuntu machine
[02:14] <testuser> Is someone here available to offer a helping hand?
[02:14] <nickrud> TigranG: my eyes crossed as soon as I saw the word samba, I know nothing about samba
[02:14] <leros> can someone help me?, its kinda complicated
[02:14] <TigranG> nickrud: heh ok
[02:14] <erawfish> quaala: if you ssh to something you are a totally normal user there and can do any harm a norma user can do on the system
[02:14] <astro76> slliness: example?
[02:14] <creeed> erawfish, it takes a lot off time!!
[02:14] <testuser> I have  a sound card issue
[02:14] <willscarlet^^> nickrud, i downloaded libpurple-dev_2.3.1-2_all .... but requires many dependancies, some of which conflict
[02:14] <johnficca> should I  Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version
[02:14] <erawfish> yourself you can only be harmed if ssh has a buffer overflow
[02:15] <johnficca> or  N or O  : keep your currently-installed version
[02:15] <Tetracomm> Hi.
[02:15] <johnficca> ?
[02:15] <testuser> It seems my master volume control doesnt work
[02:15] <killick> Hi.  How can one tell which /dev/<file> belongs to a usb device?
[02:15] <erawfish> creeed: somewhere in a file there is a HTTP_PROXY on yout siystem set. either in ~ or in /etc. if not: then you didn't really log out
[02:15] <testuser> when I command line alsa I can change the volume via PCM and headset
[02:15] <testuser> but not master volume
[02:15] <nickrud> willscarlet^^: not suprising.  I did my stint there, that's why I stick to standard ubuntu sources now
[02:15] <testuser> any ideas?
[02:16] <erawfish> creeed: and that would mean you lied to me. I want to think good things about people so I'd say you didn't lie. for now
[02:16] <creeed> lie!!
[02:16] <roshan> i've tried the new restricted drivers for my 8600gt; however, they do not work. Every time after the ubuntu loading screen my monitor goes blank and a message about "No input signal go to power save" pops up.
[02:16] <erawfish> killick: dmesg, blkid
[02:16] <icesword> killick, it depends on what hard disk you use,if hda is your hd,then usb may be sda
[02:16] <willscarlet^^> yah ... ive killed ubuntu before ... i dont feel like getting t where i've got cleanly all over again :)
[02:16] <Tetracomm> Does anyone have any idea as to why Amarok doesn't work after using VirtualBox? It works again once I restart, and my other media players won't play FLAC files after using VirtualBox either, could someone please help me?
[02:16] <creeed> I aint!
[02:16] <slliness> astro76, skype, flash, picasa
[02:16] <nickrud> willscarlet^^: That's probably a gutsy dev header, and not compatible with feisty too
[02:16] <|Quest|_>  if i ssh or telnet any shell. can i be harmed or what harm can i make to the shell?
[02:16] <testuser> ummm
[02:17] <killick> icesword: my hds are sdb and sdb1.  USB drive is what I need to learn
[02:17] <willscarlet^^> im not upgrading to gutsy .... i couldnt get my wireless chipset working
[02:17] <sgrover> any way to force my NIC to be eth0?  (rather than eth2)?
[02:17] <Ubunoob> need help getting wireless working. ubuntu 7.10 shows a wireless signal and connects, but still no internet.
[02:17] <erawfish> |Quest|_: if you ask something, you should at least read the channel. and oh:
[02:17] <bkar> sgrover-> look into udev
[02:17] <erawfish> !repeat | |Quest|_
[02:17] <ubotu> |Quest|_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:17] <icesword> killick, maybe it is sdc
[02:17] <rhs> killick: pastebin your dmesg
[02:17] <slliness> astro76, are you trying to say that 64bit processors cannot run 32 bit code?
[02:17] <misslecommander> willscarlet : took me a while to get my wireless running on gutsy, but eventually managed
[02:17] <roshan> !patience
[02:17] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:17] <nickrud> willscarlet^^: your options are figure out your wireless, settle on gaim, or look for someone who has backported pidgen to feisty for you
[02:17] <testuser> ubotu...been there, done that
[02:17] <erawfish> sgrover: ls /etc/udev/rules.d/*net*   one of those files determins what MAC is what ethX
[02:17] <testuser> I will be patient
[02:17] <bkar> Ubunoob-> can you elaborate how your network is setup? who own the AP? how is AP connected to the internet?
[02:17] <killick> icesword: ok thanks.
[02:18] <mary-kate> i just tried to join ##ubuntu, and it says forwerding me to #ubuntu
[02:18] <mattgyver83> Is it possible to set different users to login to different networks at login??
[02:18] <mary-kate> when i'm already here
[02:18] <erawfish> !pidgin
[02:18] <mary-kate> lol
[02:18] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It is available in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), but not previous versions. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[02:18] <nickrud> willscarlet^^: or get the source for libpurple and compile it yourself
[02:18] <sgrover> erawfish: Thanks.  I'm checking it out.
[02:18] <mary-kate> what the heck is +J
[02:18] <testuser> lol
[02:18] <leros> I use PuTTY to remote connect to an ubuntu machine. I started a vncserver that starts a gnome-session. I've used vnc to connect and it works but the bars on top and bottom are gone. I can't use ctrl-alt-backspace to restart x for some reason. I've tried logginng off VNC and PuTTY, but the problem still remains when I log back in.
[02:18] <testuser> talking to a bot
[02:18] <willscarlet^^> ahh im in no hurry to kill ubuntu :)) nickrud   thanks for your help thus far anyway!
[02:18] <astro76> slliness: it's a matter of how the libraries are set up
[02:18] <astro76> slliness: there's a 64bit deb for picasa
[02:18] <adub> how can i go about updating my icons on my menu
[02:18] <adub> applications menu
[02:19] <testuser> can i get a little pm from someone with sound card experience?
[02:19] <creeed> erawfish, if you want to help me so do that if not or you cant so pls stop say everything!
[02:19] <astro76> slliness: and a workaround for flash, no idea about skype
[02:19] <mary-kate> what the heck is -J
[02:19] <MCSbreaker> leros: Even in fullscreen?
[02:19] <nickrud> willscarlet^^: if you use the standard ./configure, libpurple will be installed to /usr/local . You probably* won't break anything, and it's easily removed
[02:19] <adub> like a program that when normally installed it shows up in my applications menu this time its not showing up
[02:19] <Pirate-King> hello
[02:20] <slliness> astro76, so noone that has a 64bit cpu has google earth
[02:20] <Pirate-King> what would wine be used for?
[02:20] <testuser> sound cards anyone?
[02:20] <adub> i right click and go to edit update on applications menu and its not in the list either but i know its installed b/c i can run from command line
[02:20] <astro76> slliness: I have no idea
[02:20] <Pirate-King> !wine
[02:20] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[02:20] <leros> MCSbreaker, yes. i got an error saying panel conflict and it went away. I've tried logging into a different physical machine, but the problem seems to be following me (shared settings for each user I suppose)
[02:20] <mary-kate> what's -J do to a channel
[02:20] <nickrud> Pirate-King: to make your computer drunk on poison
[02:20] <testuser> I have sound
[02:20] <Pirate-King> lol
[02:20] <Werpower> excuse me can someboy help me with a problem with wine
[02:20] <testuser> its just the master control doesnt work
[02:20] <roshan> by chance, does anyone have an 8600 that is working with the restricted drivers?
[02:20] <icesword> Pirate-King, ask this in #wine, or go to winehq,com
[02:20] <testuser> all the sound controls work in applications and players
[02:20] <Pirate-King> ok
[02:20] <Pirate-King> ty
[02:20] <testuser> just not the master control in Ubuntu
[02:21] <mary-kate> there's a #wind here?
[02:21] <wenbo> esdfedf
[02:21] <mary-kate> er, #wine
[02:21] <nickrud> mary-kate: #winehq
[02:21] <testuser> anyone here familiar with alsa?
[02:21] <powergoal> What do I need to apt-get install in ubuntu to manually compile source codes?
[02:21] <testuser> do they have their own channel?
[02:21] <rhs> testuser: do you use gnome ?
[02:21] <TigranG> I can send messages from my linux system to win xp one, but I dont receive any messages from windows. I'm using samba and smbclient -M <host>. This is my message command line in smb.conf message command = /bin/sh -c 'gedit %s;rm %s' & and I also get this message when doing smbclient -M host: params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration file. Any suggestions?
[02:21] <ZionPsyfer> leros: Hmmm, k so it's a client side config thing most likely.  What happens if you move the top panel down to the bottom?
[02:21] <mary-kate> holy cow, i've been on freenode this long, and didn't know about the wine channels lol
[02:21] <soldats> !ask > testuser
[02:21] <nickrud> testuser:  build-essential
[02:21] <robdig> testuser: right click on the volume control, and select preferences. in the dialog box, choose pcm...usually works
[02:21] <HellMind> what is the next ubuntu codename i want to try the test one,
[02:21] <astro76> slliness: I'm sure there's a workaround
[02:21] <leros> ZionPsyfer, I don't have any panels at all. Thats the problem
[02:21] <nickrud> powergoal: build-essential , sorry testuser that wasn't for you
[02:21] <soldats> hell
[02:22] <soldats> dang
[02:22] <astro76> !hardy | HellMind
[02:22] <ubotu> HellMind: hardy is Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[02:22] <dogson> slliness, most 32bit binaries works fine as long as ia32 shared libs are installed
[02:22] <kitche> HellMind: hardy
[02:22] <soldats> HellMind, hardy
[02:22] <powergoal> nickrud: thankyou
[02:22] <testuser> AWWWW
[02:22] <HellMind> it uses the last alsa?
[02:22] <testuser> if you could just imagine how stupid I feel right now
[02:22] <ZionPsyfer> leros: Even the bottom?  does it look like a resolution thing, or are they just not being drawn?
[02:22] <nickrud> testuser: don't ever consider yourself stupid when it comes to alsa, hardly anyone really understands it
[02:22] <alison> LOAD listen
[02:23] <robdig> testuser: don't kick yourself...took me a while to find it :)
[02:23] <alison> LOAD -e Listen.py
[02:23] <alison> why doesnt it load?
[02:23] <testuser> I even tried reinstalling the lastest driver set from alsa
[02:23] <slliness> dogson, how do I list pids again?
[02:23] <alison> http://www.harshj.com/2007/11/25/listen-music-player-announcer-plugin-for-xchat/
[02:23] <leros> ZionPsyfer, yes, they are not being drawn. And I can't find out how to get them back
[02:23] <Ubunoob> need help getting wireless working. ubuntu 7.10 shows a wireless signal and connects, but still no internet. instructions to install ndiswrapper and blacklist drivers?
[02:23] <alison> im having problems installing "Listen" plugin for mirc, any ideas?
[02:23] <testuser> ok, well....now another question about sound
[02:23] <kitche> alison: hard to tell but it looks like a python script to me
[02:23] <testuser> now that I can control the volume
[02:24] <dogson> slliness, ps
[02:24] <testuser> how do I setup 6ch sound?
[02:24] <FluxD> How do u change the default window manager thru terminal? I remember something that gave a blue screen and u had to select either kde or gnome from list
[02:24] <rhs> Ubunoob: did you "dhclient device" ?
[02:24] <testuser> I dont see any options in alsa for assigning outputs
[02:24] <Ubunoob> rhs, no
[02:24] <ZionPsyfer> leros: Quality/compression settings? other than that, this will be beyond me.  Someone else have more vnc experience?
[02:24] <slliness> dogson, there is no pid for googleearth
[02:24] <rhs> Ubunoob: try it
[02:24] <nickrud> FluxD: that's the login manager choice, not the window manager.  sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[02:25] <mary-kate> jeez...i'm glad i'm not contact for #ubuntu...i'd be going CRAZY with all the questions...lol
[02:25] <FluxD> nickrud, ty
[02:25] <rhs> Ubunoob: where device is a name like wlan0
[02:25] <astro76> slliness: try: ps aux | grep -i google
[02:25] <akorn> hey how do i create a file in the terminal?
[02:25] <bkar> FluxD inside  /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[02:25] <akorn> i mean folder!
[02:25] <FluxD> bkar, I dont have gui
[02:25] <mary-kate> mkdir foldername
[02:25] <robdig> akorn: mkdir name
[02:25] <mary-kate> :P
[02:25] <akorn> thanks both :)
[02:26] <Apalo_III> How do I bypass operating system checking in Opera?
[02:26] <FluxD> nickrud, how do u restart x thru terminal ?
[02:26] <leros> I don't think its a VNC problem. I can login to Putty and set the resoltion to something way less than my current screen (so I can be sure I'm seeing all of it) and the panels aren't there. I guess I need to find a way to reset X. Like how you woud ctrl+alt+backspace witha  normal desktop
[02:26] <doctordevice> my wireless card identifies as wifi0. how do I make it identify as wlan0 so ndiswrapper will work?
[02:26] <Ubunoob> rhs, my brother was on here earlier today, taking to masterskrek i think, and he got his wireless working in 10 mins, using ndiswrapper and a few terminal cmds
[02:26] <nickrud> FluxD: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[02:26] <mary-kate> :)
[02:26] <bkar> doctordevice-> man udev
[02:26] <Apalo_III> How do I make Opera spoof my operating system?
[02:26] <slliness> astro76, ok its there
[02:26] <ZionPsyfer> leros: 'sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart'  gdm or xdm
[02:27] <leros> sadly, i dont have root access
[02:27] <ZionPsyfer> gah
[02:27] <Ubunoob> leros, do it in recovery mode
[02:27] <bkar> leros to restart gdm  you  /etc/init.d/gdm restart  if youcant cnt+al+backspace
[02:27] <slliness> astro76, should I remove google earth and install ia32 and then ge?
[02:27] <ZionPsyfer> bkar: He doesn't have sudo access
[02:27] <rhs> Ubunoob: what does iwconfig show ?
[02:27] <astro76> slliness: I'm not familiar with 64bit really
[02:28] <m2rt> MCSbreaker what output should echo $JRE_HOME give to me?
[02:28] <slliness> dogson, ??
[02:28] <sco50000> rhs: it shows wireless connections
[02:28] <testuser> anyone point me in the right direction to configure 6ch sound using ALSA?
[02:28] <dogson> slliness, just install googleearth in synaptic?, it should depend on ia32 libs
[02:28] <nickrud> doctordevice: udev is not simple, but this link should give you something to work with. The full page has a good explanation. http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html#example-netif
[02:28] <ZionPsyfer> m2rt: It should spew out the path to your java home directory.
[02:28] <slliness> dogson, not in synaptic
[02:29] <testuser> odd thing, when I use the driver for the sound card the PCM toggle doesnt work
[02:29] <testuser> I have to use ALSA
[02:29] <dogson> slliness, apt-get aptitude whatever :P
[02:29] <slliness> dogson, hang on will check again
[02:29] <m2rt> ZionPsyfer well it did not :(
[02:29] <ZionPsyfer> m2rt: try something, type in 'bash' in your terminal and try it again.
[02:30] <astro76> slliness: it might still be in medibuntu
[02:30] <bkar> ZionPsyfer-> it has to be set,
[02:30] <ZionPsyfer> bkar:  I had him add it to his .profile
[02:30] <astro76> !medibuntu | slliness
[02:30] <ubotu> slliness: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[02:30] <johnficca> ok so I installed the ati driver and when I rebooted I got a low graphics mod warning and now my resolution is like 800x600 is there a way to fix this...help?
[02:31] <leros> ZionPsyfer, when i connect to the machine I get a window saying "I've detected a panel already running and will now exit"
[02:31] <ZionPsyfer> leros: Hmmm, that might be the key
[02:31] <sco50000> how do i disable IPv6? i want IPv4
[02:31] <testuser> ok, got volume control working under the drive for the chipset
[02:32] <testuser> seems there's a PCM-2 for it
[02:32] <|Quest|_>  iam asking coz some one asked me to give shell to host his eggdrop. and i asked some one too. to host my eggdrop on his pc.  i just wanted to know how it works. how to setup and what type of acces is given to a person using shell on someones else pc. and does the user has any thing to worry?
[02:32] <ZionPsyfer> leros:  You could try killing gnome-panel before vnc'ing in and see what we see.
[02:32] <testuser> ok, so next step....speaker configuration
[02:32] <testuser> any ideas where that switch might be?
[02:32] <sco50000> how do i disable IPv6? i want IPv4
[02:32] <kitche> |Quest|_: yes I would acytually set the user into a chroot myself since they can do a lot of stuff with access to your pc
[02:32] <bkar> sco50000-> in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases you disable a module
[02:33] <sco50000> bkar, ok, thanks
[02:33] <alexplz> How do I do a disk check? ALl of a sudden my laptop is running really slow (its always really fast) and in dmesg there are a bunch of messags about sda, ata1.00, write cache, I/O error dev sda etc... i think there might be a disk problem! plz help
[02:33] <dogson> sco50000, alias ipv6 off in modules.conf
[02:33] <testuser> I hate to use the word "windows" but the original driver pack had a means of configuring the speakers
[02:33] <brophat> I instaled apache, made a little test page, I can view it locally but anyone external who try to load it they report that it just hangs and never loads for them.
[02:33] <ZionPsyfer> m2rt:  Just to make sure, the last line in your .profile  that you edited is the same thing you entered in the terminal to make it work?
[02:33] <leros> ZionPsyfer, my noobness is gonna show here. How do I get the process ID so that I can kill gnome-panel?
[02:33] <nickrud> brophat: have you forwarded port 80 through your router?
[02:34] <sco50000> dogson, where is modules.conf?
[02:34] <kitche> leros: either top or ps aux|grep gnome-panel
[02:34] <icesword> alexplz, you may have to restart your computer,enter safe mode,umount your disk ,then fsck
[02:34] <astro76> leros: killall gnome-panel
[02:34] <brophat> nickrud i have done nothing, just installed apache
[02:34] <DOOM_NX> kalhnuxta guys
[02:34] <DOOM_NX> goodnight guys
[02:34] <leros> astro76, thanks. that did something
[02:34] <HellMind> where can I get info about hardy, which kernel it uses , which version of alsa too :S
[02:34] <johnficca> ok I found out its a bug in the driver for my screen res and a fix should be out next week
[02:34] <nickrud> brophat: if you are behind a router, the router won't allow outside access to your machine unless you give explicit permission on the router
[02:34] <ZionPsyfer> leros: No worries.  heh.  There's a few ways to do it.  The first is to do something like 'ps -eaf | grep gnome-panel'  That will give the pid.  Else, the command 'killall gnome-panel' will kill all processes matching that name
[02:35] <sgrover> erawfish: Thanks for the tip.  I got it.  the file was /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules.  It needed a little tweak.
[02:35] <icesword> HellMind, try uname -a
[02:35] <nickrud> HellMind: ask on #ubuntu+1
[02:35] <brophat> nickrud how can I find out how to do that?
[02:35] <HellMind> icesword: I could try reboot too
[02:35] <sco50000> dogson, where is modules.conf?
[02:35] <m2rt> yes ZionPsyfer. but I think I made a mistake with editing. I edited in konsole. but maybe should have done it with gedit? welll will try
[02:35] <thingymabob> i asked this in the server channel, but nobody is responding there.  and it's long, so sorry.  installing Ubuntu Server edition.  it gets through most of the installation just fine, then when it's time to "select and install software" it fails on me...I don't have it in front of me, so I can't remember the error it gives me.  then it goes to the overall menu of installing the OS.  ignoring that, figuring I can install that stuff later, I choose to ins
[02:35] <nickrud> brophat: your router manual, or http://portforward.com/
[02:35] <dogson> sco50000, try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[02:35] <icesword> HellMind, what you mean
[02:35] <brophat> nickrud also why does my router let us talk?
[02:35] <testuser> robdig...thanks for the help
[02:36] <ZionPsyfer> m2rt: No worries, either way works.  I just used gedit for ease of use.  If you're comfortable in emacs/vi, etc. Then it's all good.
[02:36] <vrkhans> hey any one using E17
[02:36] <alexplz> icesword: so just, reboot enter safe mode, umount /dev/sda then fsck /dev/sda ?
[02:36] <HellMind> icesword: I mean you sucks
[02:36] <slliness> http://n01getsout.com/blog/2006/11/26/google-earth-for-linux-freezing-with-ati/ astro
[02:36] <slliness> http://n01getsout.com/blog/2006/11/26/google-earth-for-linux-freezing-with-ati/ astro76
[02:36] <nickrud> brophat: because you started the connection to irc.freenode.net from your end.
[02:36] <leros> ZionPsyfer, that worked. Excellent
[02:36] <m2rt> ZionPsyfer no you told to use vi :D
[02:36] <leros> thanks all
[02:36] <sco50000> bkar, how do i disable the module? do i just delete the line that says: "alias net-pf-10 ipv6"
[02:36] <astro76> slliness: yeah I've heard of that too, never happend to me
[02:36] <brophat> nickrud uhm ok, so you mean if you wanted to direct chat to me it would not work?
[02:36] <ZionPsyfer> m2rt: Gah!  did I?  ok.  'gedit ~/.profile' then
[02:37] <vrkhans> is any one using  enlightenment
[02:37] <bkar> sco50000-> alias ipv6 off
[02:37] <ZionPsyfer> leros:  Sweetness.
[02:37] <sco50000> bkar, ok
[02:37] <ZionPsyfer> Panel came up?
[02:37] <bkar> sco50000-> and yes comment that alias net-pf-10 ipv6
[02:37] <kitche> vrkhans: which enlightenment?
[02:37] <vrkhans> kitche E17
[02:37] <ZionPsyfer> vrkhans: Not since 16, are you using it?
[02:38] <kitche> vrkhans: I used to use it
[02:38] <nickrud> brophat: If you initiate a connection from your computer, your router permits two way communication, it's in a category called ESTABLISHED. You should do some reading on firewalls, that will give you some insight
[02:38] <vrkhans> I am using E17
[02:38] <powergoal> How can I get the knetwork manager to use the LEAP protocol instead of PEAP; TTLS; etc?
[02:38] <ZionPsyfer> vrkhans: How do you like it?
[02:38] <vrkhans> ZionPsyfer, its really cool
[02:38] <roshan> Have tried restricted drivers and envy for my 8600gt and still i get an error from my monitor saying "No input signal go to power save"
[02:38] <Creed> Where does the inode store permissions?
[02:39] <osxdude> Hello
[02:39] <slliness> astro76, where was the picasa 64bit?
[02:39] <brophat> nickrud ok thanks
[02:39] <vrkhans> kitche: how you set your internet setting there
[02:39] <osxdude> My gnome is failing to start.
[02:39] <vrkhans> sometime my internet is not working there.
[02:39] <vrkhans> what should I do
[02:39] <Joelito> anyone know a good alternative to xmms and audacious? More likely gnome-ish
[02:40] <kitche> vrkhans: umm with another program enlightenment e17 doesn't have one that coems along with it
[02:40] <ezpinha> WOW english people
[02:40] <brophat> nickrud that port forward is a program that costs money; isn't there a way I can do it for free?
[02:40] <Jay-Oh-En> whats the best looking terminal? like more for looks
[02:40]  * mneptok stares blankly
[02:40] <Tetracomm> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52362/plain/
[02:40] <mneptok> it's ... a terminal
[02:40] <astro76> slliness: hmm not sure, I've seen mention of one, perhaps search for "ubuntu 64bit picasa"
[02:40] <vrkhans> kitche: so wht you do to configure your net over there
[02:40] <ZionPsyfer> osxdude: What video card is in your system?   What do you see when it doesn't start?
[02:41] <Jay-Oh-En> mnemo, lol make it transparent
[02:41] <ezpinha> somebody can help me for a small problem? please
[02:41] <osxdude> Someone help me! My Gnome won't start!
[02:41] <Jay-Oh-En> ezpinha, what is it
[02:41] <jussive> OK, here's a meta-question. What do you do if you have a crippling, rendering-your-installation-completely-useless bug, and you've filed a bug report over a month ago that nobody's even looked at? It's really looking like the answer is "SuSE" here.
[02:41] <osxdude> wait a sec...
[02:41] <sco50000> bkar, thanks
[02:41] <kitche> vrkhans: ifconfig and pppoe-config but myself I just use ifconfig sicne my router configs the net for me
[02:41] <osxdude> ok i'm back
[02:42] <testuser> still no avail
[02:42] <ZionPsyfer> k
[02:42] <osxdude> someone help me
[02:42] <doctordevice> ok, so how do I actually get access to write to someplace outside my home directory?
[02:42] <testuser> where is the speaker configuration switch?
[02:42] <vrkhans> its a file or
[02:42] <th0r> doctordevice use sudo
[02:42] <vrkhans> a utility
[02:42] <kitche> vrkhans: programs
[02:42] <testuser> how do I get ALSA to change to 6 channel output?
[02:42] <ZionPsyfer> osxdude: What type of video card is in your system?  Model number would be golden.  What are you seeing when it won't start.
[02:42] <bkar> doctordevice-> the admin or root has to give your user account  the permission