[00:00] <dfaure> still no go, grub2 doesn't work. I just get a blinking cursor on a black screen.
[00:00] <dfaure> tried pressing shift to get a menu (according to some wiki), nothing
[00:07] <dfaure> nowhere in the grub2 page does it mention the case where nothing happens at all :(
[00:08] <James147> dfaure: that shounds like the bios is trying a boot a disk without a boot loader
[00:09] <James147> dfaure: do you ahve more then  one hdd?
[00:09] <dfaure> indeed there are two
[00:09] <James147> dfaure: then either install grub to the other disk, or change the boot order in the bios
[00:09]  * James147 prefures to change the boot order and insall grub the the disk with the os on...
[00:10] <dfaure> yeah, especially since the small secondary disk (sdb) is planned to go away once this works ;)
[00:12] <dfaure> alas, the boot order seems fine (CD, floppy, big disk)
[00:13] <James147> dfaure: then are you sure you installed grub to the right disk?  (to the actual disk not a parition ie /dev/sda not /dev/sda1)
[00:14]  * James147 wonders why floppy is before the hdd.... dose anyone use them any more?
[00:14] <dfaure> yeah, I used grub-install /dev/sda -- and anyway the kubuntu 10.04 installation has probably done that too...
[00:15] <James147> dfaure: /dev/sda is the larger hdd?
[00:15] <dfaure> yep
[00:15] <dfaure> I don't need to mark partitions as bootable, right?
[00:16] <James147> dfaure: is it not?
[00:17] <dfaure> no, the installer created the partitions (into the unallocated space, as requested), but didn't mark the "/" partition as bootable. I assume this doesn't matter though, with grub on /dev/sda.
[00:25] <dfaure> hmm there was no /boot/grub/device.map, I had to run grub-mkdevicemap to generate it...
[00:25] <dfaure> and still update-grub says "cannot find list of partitions"
[00:43] <wiceu> nabo dule entra con alegria
[01:11] <muesli> whenever i try to start qtcreator via the launcher (alt+f2) it tries to start an old version from my home dir which i deleted long ago
[01:11] <muesli> where does it store / get that information from and why doesn't it update itself?
[01:15] <dfaure> muesli: there might be a .desktop file left in ~/.local/share/applications
[01:16] <muesli> dfaure: indeed, thanks :)
[01:17] <muesli> dfaure: you know, the launcher (applications plugin) could stat() the binary to see if it's even worth displaying the entry
[01:17] <dfaure> usually desktop files have Exec=foo, not Exec=/full/path/to/foo
[01:17] <muesli> dfaure: but i guess i should point that in aaron's directions
[01:18] <muesli> even without an absolute path we could check for a valid binary in the path
[01:18] <dfaure> and then if you have a /usr/bin/qtcreator your local qtcreator.desktop file would hide the global one and nothing would have been shown == worse
[01:18] <muesli> even tho it's unlikely that it'd fail in this case
[01:18] <muesli> it's clearly because i manually installed qtcreator at some point
[01:18] <dfaure> and extracting the binary name from the Exec line isn't even 100% safe, there could be a whole shell command in there.
[01:19] <muesli> dfaure: no, because then the local one would either be path-less (exec=qtcreator, works)
[01:19] <muesli> or it would be with the /home path and therefore invalid, never hiding the global one
[01:19] <dfaure> wrong. The way desktop files work, is that local hides global, no matter what.
[01:20] <muesli> dfaure: ah, i guess that's only for desktop files with the same name then
[01:20] <dfaure> sure
[01:20] <muesli> ok, didn't hide my global qtcreator then since it was a different .desktop filename
[01:21] <dfaure> ok
[01:22] <muesli> still argueable, if it makes sense that a invalid local desktop file would overrule a global one
[01:22] <muesli> but i guess it's not worth the effort arguing ;-)
[01:23] <dfaure> definitely not. It's standard, and has been the case since kde1, and it's really a feature, in the big picture.
[01:24] <dfaure> (and the file is not invalid)
[01:25] <muesli> dfaure: just curious now. why would you show a "dead" .desktop link to the user?
[01:25] <dfaure> we don't know it's dead. It looks perfectly valid.
[01:26] <muesli> dfaure: well, that's what i'm saying: we should check if it's dead to see if it's really valid. not just guess it
[01:26] <dfaure> if we take the time in kbuildsycoca to look around for executables (!), and store in ksycoca "this desktop file is invalid" then when you (re) install the binary, it will still be marked as invalid....
[01:26] <dfaure> this is just not practical
[01:27] <muesli> hm, i wasn't even planning to store that info
[01:27] <muesli> the launcher should just check for it
[01:27] <dfaure> won't make it any faster ;)
[01:27] <muesli> i haven't complained about speed so far ;-)
[01:28]  * dfaure has ;)
[01:28] <muesli> well, anyways. just curious and wanted to pick your brain... it's too little of a problem in reality
[01:29] <muesli> i'd assume, at least
[01:29]  * dfaure goes to bed - cu
[01:29] <muesli> nn
[02:41] <jimmy51_> according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPod, i should be able to plug in and use my ipod touch
[02:41] <jimmy51_> but it just mocks me by doing nothing in amarok and gtkpod
[02:42] <davidearney> new to linux. anyone around that has some time to assist?
[02:43] <pibarnas> davidearney: 1st lesson: just ask.
[02:43] <davidearney> I'm trying to get my laptop working on wireless.
[02:44] <davidearney> I can't seem to connect to the router here.
[02:44] <davidearney> not my router, and I can connect on my Mac, and on a Windows boot....
[02:44] <davidearney> but not Ubuntu
[02:44] <davidearney> well, kubuntu 10.10 64-bit to be exact.
[02:45] <davidearney> and I'm not sure why.
[02:46] <davidearney> When I do a sudo lshw -C network, I'm not seeing any obvious problems based on descriptions from the documentation.
[02:48] <v3xproof> im a newb but i got it working the other day
[02:49] <v3xproof> using broadcom hardware?
[02:49] <davidearney> yes
[02:49] <v3xproof> 1 sec, ill give you a link
[02:50] <davidearney> BCM4312 on a Dell e6550
[02:50] <davidearney> driver problem? even though kubuntu seems to recognize the hardware?
[02:51] <davidearney> I mean, I'm even seeing a driverversion=<IP_ADDRESS>
[02:52] <v3xproof> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/572777
[02:52] <v3xproof> comment 27 and 28
[02:53] <v3xproof> seemed to do it for me
[02:55] <davidearney> thanks. Looking now.
[02:55] <v3xproof> welcome
[02:55] <v3xproof> hope it works for you
[02:56] <davidearney> I'm trying hard to give Linux a try. I've walked away from it in the past, and I just hate Windows enough that I'm willing to tough it out a bit longer this time.
[02:56] <davidearney> LOL
[02:56] <v3xproof> lol, same here
[02:56] <v3xproof> once you do get it connected
[02:57] <v3xproof> you will probably want to disable ipv6 also
[02:57] <v3xproof> if you have slow browsing issues
[02:57] <v3xproof> thats the other issue i ran into
[02:57] <davidearney> hmmmm.
[02:58] <v3xproof> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu-1004.html -- incase you need it
[02:58] <v3xproof> gonna log
[02:58] <v3xproof> night
[02:59] <davidearney> I guess I can do that get from a USB stick
[03:44] <davidearney> how do you use kpackagekit to install a package from a USB stick?
[03:52] <jmichaelx> davidearney: i would not know, but installing such a package would be easy from the command line
[03:53] <jmichaelx> davidearney: i can tell you how, if you'd like to give it a try
[03:53] <davidearney> sure
[03:54] <davidearney> I have the file on a USB stick
[03:54] <jmichaelx> davidearney: is this package from an official ubuntu repository? (just curious)
[03:54] <davidearney> the package is wpasupplicant_0.6.10.orig.tar.gz and I got it from http://packages.debian.org/sid/wpasupplicant
[03:55] <jmichaelx> davidearney: is there a reason why you would need this package as opposed to the wpasupplicant that comes with kubuntu by default?
[03:56] <davidearney> wifi isn't working
[03:56] <claydoh> davidearney: you should just be able to double-click it to install,  but iirc wpasupplicant is already installed by default
[03:56] <davidearney> I'm trying to get my broadcom 4322 on a dell e6550 to work.
[03:56] <davidearney> I'm having some wireless problems.
[03:57] <jmichaelx> davidearney: i don't think that installing this package is what you want to do
[03:57] <davidearney> I'm running kubuntu 10.10
[03:57] <davidearney> okay....
[03:57] <davidearney> let me describe my problem
[03:57] <davidearney> I'm not on my own network, for one.
[03:57] <davidearney> LOL
[03:57] <jmichaelx> davidearney: have you tried running 'additional drivers' (kde-jockey)
[03:58] <davidearney> I have not....I'm brand spanking new to linux. I installed earlier this evening.
[03:58] <davidearney> I'm in IRC on my MacBook Pro trying to figure this out.
[03:59] <jmichaelx> ok, go to your main kde menu, go to 'system', then select 'additional drivers'
[03:59] <davidearney> the most I've figured out how to do so far was get my machine dual booting with Windows and kubuntu.
[03:59] <jmichaelx> davidearney: you do have a network connection , do you not?
[03:59] <davidearney> I do not. wireless only.
[03:59] <jmichaelx> internet connection*
[03:59] <jmichaelx> but you are connected to the internet?
[03:59] <davidearney> I'm not at home. I'm travelling....and will be doing so for months.
[03:59] <davidearney> yes, on my Mac.
[03:59] <jmichaelx> ahh
[03:59] <davidearney> not on my linux box.
[04:00] <claydoh> davidearney: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx?highlight=%28BCM4322%29
[04:00] <claydoh> more info there, tho some of the gui instructions are Gnome-centric
[04:00] <jmichaelx> davidearney: i think there is a good chance that if you could connect the PC to the internet via Ethernet, and the run 'additional drivers', that may get you off the ground
[04:01] <claydoh> I agree with jmichaelx
[04:01] <davidearney> Okay....let me move to another room with both laptops.
[04:02] <jmichaelx> davidearney: also, let us know which version of kubunt you are using
[04:02] <jmichaelx> kubuntu*
[04:03] <davidearney> 10.10 64 bit
[04:03] <davidearney> let me see if I can find my grandfather's switch in all of this mess in his computer room.....
[04:04] <jmichaelx> davidearney: ok, give 'additional drivers' a try... i may take a few minutes
[04:06] <davidearney> Okay, found the switch, and I'm running additional drivers now.
[04:07] <jmichaelx> davidearney: keep us posted
[04:08] <davidearney> looks like it's run
[04:08] <davidearney> restarting now, for good measure.
[04:09] <jmichaelx> good deal
[04:09] <claydoh> davidearney: not really necessary, but won't hurt
[04:09] <davidearney> so used to Windows....change a desktop background.....reboot
[04:09] <davidearney> just a habit really.
[04:10] <jmichaelx> broadcom has actually released some open source drivers for their wireless chipsets recently, so hopefully in the future, some of these bcm adapters will work out of the box
[04:11] <davidearney> this is my first taste of linux on a personal box. At least for full deployment use.
[04:11] <davidearney> If I like it, I'll just burn my W7 partitiion.
[04:12] <davidearney> hmmmmm....
[04:13] <davidearney> interesting...now the box won't reboot at all. no dual boot prompt window or anything.
[04:13] <davidearney> okay, good to go, had to reboot a second time.
[04:16] <davidearney> Okay.....I'm at least seeing the card now.
[04:19] <davidearney> Okay....step two jmichaelx
[04:19] <davidearney> I'm able to see the network adapter, and the available network....but I can't connect.
[04:20] <davidearney> it's a shitty old AT&T DSL modem here, and the encryption type is WEP.....do people even use that anymore?
[04:20] <davidearney> '
[04:23] <jmichaelx> davidearney: people do still use WEP, but they shouldn't
[04:23] <davidearney> it was sarcasm on my part.
[04:23] <davidearney> LOL
[04:23] <davidearney> looks like the linux box is attempting to negotiate an IP on wireless right now.
[04:24] <jmichaelx> davidearney: i feel that with the correct info entered, you should be able to connect... double-check obvious things like the WEP key, etc
[04:25] <davidearney> Now....whoever set up this network used a number as the passphrase....I'm going to set my key type to passphrase, right?
[04:26] <davidearney> as opposed to Hex or ASCII Key
[04:27] <jmichaelx> davidearney: likely... if that does not work, try hex (if the number could possibly be hex)
[04:29] <davidearney> doesn't seem like it would be since it's only 10 digits, but I'll try both ways if necessary.
[04:30] <davidearney> Okay, I'm connected.
[04:30] <davidearney> For the moment.
[04:31] <davidearney> thanks so much for your help everyone, especially jmichaelx
[04:31] <davidearney> I'll get my updates and such installed and then come back when I know I've broken something else.
[04:32] <jmichaelx> davidearney: hopefully your updates won't break anything!
[04:32] <jmichaelx> davidearney: on another note, i do hope your laptop does not have mobile intel graphics, or you may be in for a rough ride
[04:33] <davidearney> can you help me with looking that up?
[04:33] <davidearney> what's the terminal query?
[04:33] <jmichaelx> davidearney: open a terminal (i.e. Konsole), and enter 'lspci | grepVGA', and give us the output
[04:34] <jmichaelx> oops..
[04:34] <jmichaelx> lspci | grep VGA
[04:34] <jmichaelx> (there should be a space between 'grep' and 'VGA'
[04:34] <jmichaelx> )
[04:34] <davidearney> ugh
[04:35] <davidearney> not good
[04:35] <jmichaelx> what does it say?
[04:35] <davidearney> Intel Mobile 4 Series Chipset
[04:35] <davidearney> rev 07
[04:35] <jmichaelx> you may be all right
[04:35] <jmichaelx> give it a whirl
[04:35] <jmichaelx> i have a laptop with the 945gm chipset... it's horrible in 10.10
[04:36] <davidearney> still planning to give it a whirl, and no problems with the little I've been using it.
[04:36] <davidearney> I'll be interested to see how this works out for me.
[04:36] <jmichaelx> davidearney: if you do have a lot of graphics problems, i would suggest installing 10.04.1 instead
[04:37] <davidearney> I mostly compute for productivity these days, and I'm not trying to do anything like gaming on the platform.
[04:37] <davidearney> browser recommendations?
[04:38] <jmichaelx> davidearney: i recommend both firefox and chromium-browser.... the default browser 'rekonq' is not too bad either
[04:38] <davidearney> Okay, I was planning on getting firefox and chromium
[04:38] <davidearney> so no surprises there.
[04:39] <davidearney> I'll be installing Open Office as well.
[04:39] <jmichaelx> davidearney: open office should already be there
[04:40] <davidearney> oh, didn't know it was bundled.
[04:41] <davidearney> jmichaelx, I'll have a look.
[04:41] <davidearney> I'll be damned.
[04:42] <davidearney> recommended IRC utility?
[04:42] <davidearney> or is quassel good enough?
[04:44] <jmichaelx> i've never used quassel, so i cannot say. i really like konversation, personally
[04:44] <dearney> well, now I'm here on two machines
[04:45] <davidearney> or I was anyway.
[04:45] <jmichaelx> lol
[04:45] <davidearney> had to reboot the Dell
[04:45] <davidearney> all of the updates completed.
[04:46] <davidearney> thanks for the help
[04:46] <davidearney> I'll be back tomorrow more than likely, with more grilling for ya'll.
[04:46] <jmichaelx> no problem at all, just glad that we were able to help
[04:46] <davidearney> thanks very much.
[05:15] <muesli> i noticed i got one system running irqbalance, another one isn't
[05:15] <muesli> how / when does kubuntu decide to run it?
[06:05] <RadSurfer> I've installed 'kdenetwork-filesharing' and tried dozens of things, I still cannot get one K-box to connect to another kubuntu box! HELP! can someone /msg and walk me thru this PLEASE
[06:06] <RadSurfer> connects fine to a winblows shares. stupidly enuff
[07:51] <bluekb> I set kwin's global shortcuts so that Meta + (numpad home, etc) would switch to desktops.  While it seems to have accepted the shortcuts, they don't actually work.  Any ideas why?
[07:52] <bluekb> Eg, Meta + Home should switch to desktop 1.  But it seems not to be working.
[07:58] <naftilos76> hi everyone, everytime i open up my PC i get a message from KDESudo: 'No command arguments supplied! Usage: kdesudo......' It's like there is a preconfigured action on every start up. The thing is that i have not put anything in ~/.kde/Autostart or anywhere else! Can anyone help? How can i disable this message dialog?
[08:01] <naftilos76> Well, it seems that it is a bug... I just googled it and came up with some info referring to it as a bug in prev versions as well.
[09:21] <noaXess> hey all
[09:21] <noaXess> i get this if i do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:21] <noaXess> warning, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 41518 package 'virtualbox-3.0':
[09:21] <noaXess>  error in Version string '3.0.12-54655_Ubuntu_karmic': invalid character in revision number
[09:22] <ericlks> anyone here using a mac to run ubuntu
[09:22] <noaXess> i have installed vbox version for 10.10.. vbox works.. think that entry is just a error from the 10.04 to 10.10 upgrade. how to remove that lines?
[09:54] <asdkjfaskdjfaksd> hi guys, can i aks a question about Kubuntu 10.4 (LTS) here too?
[09:58] <Yabbapappa> Hello, how I can build up an ad-hoc network in Kubuntu 10.10?
[09:58] <nebula> macro recorder (replay ) best pogram ????
[09:59] <nebula> !macro
[09:59] <nebula> !replay
[10:01] <Sarper> nebula, what is your question?
[10:04] <nebula> Sarper, I suggest a program for auto mouse click on the desktop ...???
[10:04] <Sarper> kinda like autohotkey for windows?
[10:05] <Sarper> nebula, look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4789903
[10:05] <nebula> for k/ubuntu
[10:07] <Sarper> nebula, http://xmacro.sourceforge.net/  will compile on any linux dist
[10:09] <smooph1> hi guys I have 2 problems ... on my lenovo t60 the touchpad is not working ... drivers? the other is how does autofs work ... i can't get it running
[10:09] <smooph1> autofs is not that important
[10:10] <Sarper> smooph, get the synaptic drivers from the debian lenny dist and compile
[10:10] <Sarper> kubuntu's version is slimmed to generice
[10:10] <Sarper> generic*
[10:12] <smooph1> Sarper: thanks
[10:12] <Sarper> np
[10:45] <smooph1> Sarper: Hey I have tried to find the package ... can you be of assistance
[10:45] <Sarper> sure
[10:46] <chiiiiiz> hello!!
[10:46] <chiiiiiz> can anyone tell me how I can install kontact/kmail helpfiles?
[10:47] <Sarper> smooph1, http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[10:47] <chiiiiiz> I have a message "the folder or file 'help:/kontact/index.html' does not exist
[10:48] <chiiiiiz> I want to change the theme of the "message preview panel" that is located below my messages list in Kmail
[10:49] <Sarper> chiiiiiz, it is usually located in ~/.kde3/
[10:49] <chiiiiiz> you mean .kde4? Thanks
[10:49] <Sarper> yeah
[10:49] <Sarper> srry
[10:50] <Sarper> I use Debian w/kde3 just here for tech supprot
[10:50] <Sarper> support*
[10:52] <chiiiiiz> sorry, but a search for a htm* file in ~/.kde/ did not show anything dealing with kmail... only with kopete
[10:56] <Sarper> chiiiiiz, that is because it is xml isnt it
[10:58] <smooph1> the package manager tells me a more current version is already installed o.O
[10:59] <Sarper> o, rly
[10:59] <Sarper> well then Im not sure why it isnt loading
[11:00] <Sarper> check your xorg.conf file
[11:06] <VeliMies> Ok. Maverick 10.10 is great but I need to get rid of pulseaudio and replace it with alsa. Does anybody know how to do this?
[11:09] <smooph1> "sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio" ?
[11:11] <VeliMies> Yes... and there after "apt-get install alsa" perhaps.....
[11:59] <n8w> hey
[12:00] <n8w> im tryin to solve problems related to "hibernation" on 10.10....the first error i get is this: hibernate-disk:Warning: Tuxonice binary signature file not found.
[12:02] <n8w> im testin it by usin --dry-run.... sudo hibernate-disk -v2 --dry-run
[12:02] <n8w> anyone havin the same problem?
[12:03] <collabra> http://www.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-9300639326172081%3Ad9bbzbtli15&ie=UTF-8&sa=Search&q=hibernate-disk%3AWarning%3A+Tuxonice+binary+signature+file+not+found.&hl=en
[12:18] <sameer> hello
[12:32] <ToxinPowe> anyone uses KDE activities here?
[12:33] <Tm_T> I do
[12:34] <ToxinPowe> I have a problem, when I reboot/restart KDE my apps don't remember activities settings
[12:35] <ToxinPowe> for example firefox for "work" any help?
[12:35] <Wolfcastle> hello
[12:35] <Wolfcastle> I have a problem with my cpu frequency
[12:36] <ct529> I am on 10.04 LTS on my production machine .... whilst I really like the kde envrionment, the colour combination is doing my head in .... is there a way to definitively get rid of the windows colour and adopt either a green, or a brown (kind of human theme in ubuntu) or a soft purple .... I have tried in many ways, but I do not seem to be able to change all the colours so I awlays have some part of the windows or the panel or the plasmoid that
[12:36] <ct529>  retain the old colour
[12:36] <ct529> Wolfcastle: what problem?
[12:36] <Wolfcastle> it seems to be set at 1.2 GHz when my max speed is 2Ghz
[12:36] <Wolfcastle> It may have ocurred after installing cpudyn i'm not sure
[12:36] <Wolfcastle> however I now installed cpufreqd instead
[12:37] <ToxinPowe> Tm_T: Do you have this problem too?
[12:37] <Wolfcastle> and I'm using cpufreq-set -r -f 2Ghz to change the frequency but nothing happens
[12:37] <Tm_T> ToxinPowe: hmmm, I don't know about that, sorry
[12:37] <Wolfcastle> cpufreq-info still shows I'm running at 1.2 GHz
[12:37] <ToxinPowe> Tm_T: ok, np
[12:38] <Tm_T> ct529: in systemsettings, you can change color scheme to your liking
[12:38] <Wolfcastle> any ideas?
[12:39] <ct529> Tm_T: nope, you can change a lot of things, but I want to remove the old colour scheme *completely *, without any track of the standard colour eithe rin the windows, the panel the plasmoid the bootstrap screen
[12:39] <ct529> Wolfcastle: just one sec
[12:40] <Wolfcastle> ct529: thanx
[12:40] <Tm_T> ct529: plasma has its own theme, but all the rest is handled thru the color scheme
[12:40] <Tm_T> ct529: I don't have any blue other than icons in my desktop (:
[12:40] <ct529> Wolfcastle: are you sure the frequency you have ste is among the allowed frequencies?
[12:41] <ct529> Wolfcastle: try first by setting the frequency for one sincgle CPU or core
[12:41] <Wolfcastle> yes I'm sure
[12:41] <Wolfcastle> http://pastebin.com/VxqpRWZb
[12:42] <Wolfcastle> ok i will try just one
[12:43] <Wolfcastle> ct529: nope nothing happens
[12:43] <TopGear> hi
[12:43] <ct529> Wolfcastle: try cpufreq-set -c 0 -f 2.00 Ghz as root
[12:44] <ct529> Tm_T: what do you mean by plasma has its own colour theme?
[12:44] <TopGear>  gtkpod won't recognize my ipod touch second gen... it doesn't see it, and it isn't mounted anywhere where I can find it.. lsusb:  gtkpod won't recognize my ipod touch second gen...
 it doesn't see it, and it isn't mounted anywhere....
[12:44] <TopGear> eh?
[12:44] <ct529> Tm_T: If I change all the colours in the colours theme, I still have some areas in the windows that maintain the old colours
[12:44] <TopGear> that's certainly no lsusb :p
[12:45] <TopGear> lsusb: Bus 002 Device 006: ID 05ac:1293 Apple, Inc. iPod Touch 2.Gen
[12:45] <Wolfcastle> ct529: nope nothing, is it relevant that /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq is empty?
[12:46] <ct529> Wolfcastle: what do you mean empty?
[12:46] <Wolfcastle> ct529: there's no files in it
[12:46] <ct529> Wolfcastle: there should actually be directories in it
[12:47] <Tm_T> ct529: tried any other color scheme entirely?
[12:47] <ct529> Wolfcastle: which governor are you in?
[12:47] <TopGear> is there someone who knows what i should do now?
[12:47] <Wolfcastle> ct529: however in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/bios_limit the value is 1200000
[12:47] <Tm_T> ct529: and about plasma, it uses its own themes, the color scheme doesn't affect to it much
[12:47] <ct529> Wolfcastle: what governor are you?
[12:48] <Wolfcastle> ct529: userspace it seems
[12:48] <ct529> Tm_T: what is covered by the plasma theme?
[12:48] <ct529> Wolfcastle: oh that is the problem ....
[12:48] <ct529> Wolfcastle: your userspace governor only allows 1.20 Ghz
[12:48] <ct529> Wolfcastle: your have to change governor
[12:48] <ct529> Wolfcastle: go to governor ondemand if you have it
[12:48] <Tm_T> ct529: the panel, desktop and widgets in it, some system dialogs
[12:48] <Wolfcastle> I did change it to performance and not much happened
[12:49] <ct529> Wolfcastle: no, change it to ondemand
[12:49] <Wolfcastle> ct529: i will try that thanx
[12:49] <ct529> Tm_T: yes, you see that is one of the problems .... I want to change the colours also there
[12:50] <Tm_T> ct529: then you have to change to some other plasma theme
[12:50] <Wolfcastle> ct529: ok now there is a ondemand directory there
[12:50] <ct529> Tm_T: oh I see .... I do not like any of ones I have seen. How do I develop a new one?
[12:51] <Wolfcastle> ct529: doesn't seem to be going any faster though
[12:51] <ct529> Wolfcastle: exactly .... and also a stats directory I imagine
[12:51] <Wolfcastle> nop no stats
[12:51] <ct529> Wolfcastle: no wait, now run cpufreq-info and pastebin please
[12:52] <Wolfcastle> ct529: ok http://pastebin.com/u0QkuPBZ
[12:52] <JuJuBee> Anybody able to tell me why when I (knichel) ls -al Default/ I get http://pastie.org/1252509  but if I sudo ls -al Default/ I get http://pastie.org/1252496
[12:54] <ct529> Wolfcastle: there is aproblem with the definition of your governors, look at line 12
[12:54] <ct529> Wolfcastle: your governors do not allow you to change the frequency to anything but 1.20 Ghz
[12:55] <Wolfcastle> indeed
[12:55] <ct529> Wolfcastle: your have to modify the governor definition
[12:55] <Wolfcastle> any idea how to fix that, cause I don't
[12:57] <ct529> Wolfcastle: "cpufreq-set --min 1.20 GHz --max 2.00 GHz" as root in governor ondemand
[12:57] <Tm_T> ct529: plasma themes are mostly svg graphics, you can see tutorial in http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma/Theme
[12:57] <ct529> Tm_T: thanks a lot for your help
[12:57] <ct529> Tm_T: is it also possible to change things like the radius of the corners of the windows?
[12:58] <Tm_T> ct529: depends on the windeco you're using, some window themes has settings for that
[12:59] <ct529> Tm_T: I meant if I wanted to do my own, I do not want to waste time anymore in trying to create satisfactory set ups, because I am unhappy with the results
[13:00] <Wolfcastle> ct529:  ok i did that but that line still says the same
[13:00] <Wolfcastle> what an annoying bug
[13:04] <ct529> Wolfcastle: try that
[13:04] <ct529> Wolfcastle: cpufreq-set -c 0 -g ondemand --min 1.20Mhz --max 2.00Ghz
[13:04] <ct529> Wolfcastle: then pastebin the result of cpufreq-info
[13:04] <Wolfcastle> ok thanx
[13:04] <ct529> Wolfcastle: everything as root!!!!
[13:04] <Wolfcastle> yes of course
[13:07] <ct529> Tm_T: I would also like to modify the bootstrap sequence because that bubbly theme makes me sick :-D
[13:07] <Wolfcastle> ct529: still nothing dude: http://pastebin.com/gYGrTFCa
[13:08] <ct529> Wolfcastle: then there must be a bug in your cpufreq utils .... what version / what kubuntu release?
[13:09] <Wolfcastle> kubuntu 10.10 and cpufreqd 2.4.2
[13:09] <Wolfcastle> that's nice
[13:10] <Wolfcastle> think i'll try out fedora 14 see how that works
[13:10] <ct529> Wolfcastle: try one last thing .... cpufreq-set -c 0 -g userspace, then  cpufreq-set -c 0 -g userspace --min 1.20Mhz --max 2.00Ghz
[13:10] <Wolfcastle> ok
[13:11] <ct529> Wolfcastle: on the first cpu please (-c 0)
[13:12] <Wolfcastle> ct529: ok done, but I still get the between 1.20 and 1.20
[13:12] <ct529> Wolfcastle: I am using 10.04 LTS with cpufrequtils 006.
[13:12] <ct529> Wolfcastle: are the cpufrequtils properly installed, could you please check with dpkg, synaptic or whatever your use?
[13:13] <ct529> Wolfcastle: could you please pastebin again?
[13:14] <Wolfcastle> http://pastebin.com/acjEQzVb
[13:14] <djbeenie> can anyone help me? every time I restart my ubuntu system (dell d630 laptop) with dockingstation with two external monitors.  I setup my displays in "display and monitor"...everytime I reboot, I have to RE-Configure my monitors which is quite annoying, can anyone help me?
[13:16] <ct529> Wolfcastle: that is weird, it must be a bug with version 007-1.
[13:16] <ct529> Wolfcastle: sorry, I will not move to Maverick for another couple of months at least
[13:16] <Wolfcastle> yes very weird
[13:16] <Wolfcastle> np thanx for the help
[13:17] <Tm_T> ct529: you might be interested to know about aurorae, see http://kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=81
[13:17] <Wolfcastle> it was working fine in 10.04 AFAIK
[13:17] <Wolfcastle> i just noticed it was a bit slow recently
[13:17] <ct529> Wolfcastle: it is definitively working fine on mine
[13:18] <ct529> Wolfcastle: the interesting thing is that the ondemand governor works fine on yours .... but still ....
[13:19] <Wolfcastle> I'll try it in some other distro to see if it works
[13:26] <ct529> Tm_T: thanks! what is Aurorae though?
[13:27] <Tm_T> ct529: windeco engine that uses similar themes than plasma
[13:27] <Tm_T> as in, you don't have to code your own windeco entirely
[13:28] <ct529> Tm_T: so by modifying the plasma theme, you also modify the windows decoration?
[13:28] <Peace-> mm
[13:28] <Peace-> lucid have not kde 4.5.2?^
[13:28] <Peace-> that is bad
[13:28] <Tm_T> ct529: no, but you can easily port the changes
[13:28] <ct529> Tm_T: I was hoping that creating new windows decoration and new plasma theme was much easier ....
[13:28] <ct529> Tm_T: thanks
[13:28] <Tm_T> ct529: you change image in one, you copy the changes over tro the other (:
[13:29] <ct529> Tm_T: I thought kde3 to kde4 was all about making it easier to build new desktop functionalities including themes
[13:31] <Tm_T> ct529: it is easier now, way easier
[13:31] <ct529> Tm_T: do you have any good link for changing the bootstrap / login theme as well?
[13:32] <Tm_T> unfortunately no
[13:37] <ct529> Tm_T: thanks for all your help ....
[13:38] <Tm_T> np, glad to be of any help
[13:51] <prower> hello :> i'm using maverick, i was wondering if anyone else has had the following problem: occasionally when i log out i get an error stating that nepomuk-services has crashed, it gives the option to restart or file a bug report. it happens inconsistently so i'm not sure how to track down what's causing it :<
[14:01] <renato> ho, I have installed kvm on kubuntu 10.10 but when I launch virt-manager I am told: Error, no active connection to run on.... do you guys know what this is about?
[14:02] <renato> I hav used this help page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation
[14:06] <zoggy> anyone know why klipper lost it's ctrl-alt-v (invokde clipboard) and clipboard search functionality? what a ball ache.
[14:06] <zoggy> *invoke
[14:07] <zoggy> it was called "Show Kilpper  Popup-Menu and could be found in the global keyboard shortucts. it's still listed there in maverick, but doesn't work anymore
[14:16]  * node808_ just installed kubuntu for the first time yesterday....yay me!
[14:23] <naftilos76> hi, can anybody tell me how to play MMS content from firefox?
[14:29] <alex_> hello,I downloaded leo-like-bespin-pack (icons,toolbas.),can anybody tell me how to install it?
[14:35] <alex_> actully,it is a rar format,
[14:44] <alex_> no body can teach me,I googling for one hours,no any instructions?
[14:45] <collabra> where did you download it from?
[14:46] <zoggy> hi sorry to bother, i'm looking for a more up-to-date version of kdevelop than is in maverick. is there a nightly .deb by any chance? thanks a lot
[14:46] <alex_> http://seanbarman.deviantart.com/art/leo-like-pack-v1-150542447
[14:46] <collabra> !kdelook
[14:47] <collabra> !kde-look
[14:47] <collabra> uggh,...
[14:47] <alex_> I found it in kde-look,but was redirected to this url
[14:50] <alex_> and there is a french installation instruction,but  O O
[14:53] <collabra> alex_:
[14:54] <alex_> yes
[14:56] <collabra> nevermind....
[15:01] <alex_> any body know how to install rar format theme?
[15:02] <collabra> sudo apt-get install unrar
[15:02] <collabra> after this is loaded,.. you'll be able to 'unrar' it.
[15:03] <collabra> by right clicking the package and choosing extract here
[15:04] <alex_> yes
[15:05] <alex_> I got some png files
[15:07] <collabra> nice,... but my expertise has run out, and i apologize for that... but also under system settings > apperance > what is it and icon set,... there's a way to install these somewhere in there.
[15:08] <collabra> then again,.. it just may take 'rar' files...not too sure.
[15:09] <alex_> OO
[15:09] <collabra> i'm listening to 'enigma' best of,.. so don't fault my mood.
[15:10] <noaXess> hey all
[15:10] <noaXess> have upgraded a 10.04.1 to 10.10.. while the upgrade process wa finisched and the message: remove obsolete packages, my sun ;).. has pressed the power button from the pc .. grrrr..
[15:11] <noaXess> how can i remove obsolete packages now? system runs ok, sudo apt-get auroremove doesn't have packages to remove
[15:16] <dasKreech> noaXess: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get autoremove ?
[15:16] <smooph> Hi guys ... I have a problem with akregator ...it doesn't save the feeds next time i log in they are gone
[15:17] <noaXess> dasKreech: does nothing, means also, alls ok.. no error messages
[15:18] <smooph> maybe everything is ok
[15:18] <smooph> :)
[15:19] <dasKreech> noaXess: Hmm maybe the computer is faster than your sun (sic)
[15:20] <noaXess> dasKreech: i hope
[15:20] <noaXess> i have another problem with mic.. in 10.04.1 all works fine, sound and mic.. but now.. mic won't work, i see it in pavucontrol, but can't get it working, also if i mute/unmute it..
[15:20] <dasKreech> 2 smooph!
[15:22] <smooph> Hi guys ... I have a problem with akregator ...it doesn't save the feeds next time i log in they are gone
[15:22] <Peace-> wow
[15:22] <Peace-> maybe you should open a bug
[15:23] <Peace-> smooph: i woudl like know ... but if you create another user ...
[15:23] <Peace-> smooph: akregator does the same?
[15:27] <smooph> Peace-: what are you thinking ?
[15:28] <dasKreech> smooph: what happens if you manually close akregrator?
[15:29] <smooph> manually closing the akregator, kontact asks to be closed and now without restarting the system they are still there
[15:30] <smooph> you think loging out doesn't give kontact enough time to close akregator down correctly
[15:30] <smooph> ?
[15:35] <lelamal> hi all, does anyone know where kubuntu stores contacts?
[15:35] <lelamal> Akonadi Configuration shows Personal Contacts, and it correctly points to ~/.local/share/contacts/, but the target folder doesn't exist
[15:37] <noaXess> what about java and sound? does this test works on any of your machines? http://java.sun.com/products/java-media/sound/samples/JavaSoundDemo/
[15:38] <smooph> it looks like a shutdown doesn't give kontact enough time to close akregator directly
[15:38] <dasKreech> lelamal: In mysql?
[15:38] <noaXess> or need i install an extra packages to get java sound working?
[15:38] <dasKreech> smooph: probably
[15:39] <dasKreech> smooph && lelamal: #akonadi can probably give you appropriate answers
[15:39] <lelamal> dasKreech: ok thanks!
[15:40] <Peace-> smooph: have you tried with a new user?
[15:40] <dasKreech> lelamal: The default store for akonadi is a database so it's probably there
[15:40] <smooph> dasKreech: akregator as far as i know doesn't use akonadi
[15:40] <Peace-> lelamal: $HOME/.kde
[15:40] <dasKreech> Peace-: It works when he closes akregator manually so it's something with doing a shutdown that makes it not save
[15:41] <smooph> Peace-: no i didn't I don't think trying a different user would help
[15:41] <Peace-> smooph: try expeccially if you have upgraded kde
[15:41] <Peace-> trying is without pain
[15:41] <lelamal> Peace-: /.kde contains a lot of folders, can you be more specific, please?
[15:42] <dasKreech> smooph: far as I know it doesn't either but you said kontacts asks to be closed so might be related
[15:42] <dasKreech> actually #kontact might be better for you
[15:42] <Peace-> lelamal: lelamal googing  $HOME/.config/akonadi/mysql-local.conf .
[15:42] <Peace-> i guess
[15:43] <smooph> dasKreech: I just found that from a while ago I still had kontact in the session manager: exclude programs ... maybe that was it
[15:43] <dasKreech> >_>
[15:44] <smooph> dasKreech: kontact doesn't ask to be closed ... only if I close akregator via system-icon than (expected behavior) it want's to close all of kontact
[15:44] <dasKreech> smooph: Ah right what happens if you just ^Q ?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[15:46] <smooph> dasKreech: ... I will stop for now ... I have to go home anyways but ... the session thing looks like it could have been the error ... I will keep an eye on it and ask again if that wasn't the reason
[15:46] <smooph> bye
[15:49] <dasKreech> smooph: Cool :)
[15:49] <dasKreech> hi BluesKaj
[15:56] <SubCool> Hey, i am on webchat,freenode.net Can anyhelp help me with a crash? My KDE crashed. I uninstalled KDEbase to fix it, but now i cant reach grub to reinstall it. IS there a path or something i can follow?
[15:57] <KukuNut> SubCool:  logon to recovery mode
[15:57] <SubCool> KukuNut: how?
[15:58] <SubCool> < oh you know what, someone was telling me to do that. but i cant get there- i cant seem to get to grub or anything so that i can use CLI
[15:58] <KukuNut> SubCool: soory I didn't see you can't see grub
[15:59] <KukuNut> SubCool: what else did you do to mess grub when you are just un-installing kdebase?
[16:01] <SubCool_> ok, what?
[16:03] <SubCool_> how do you get to grub, im always use to it just popping up?
[16:03] <SubCool_> i loaded up a live CD, what file do i edit so that i can get this done- this is taking me way too much time.
[16:04] <SubCool_> whats going on for Halloween
[16:04] <SubCool_> ugh- c.p
[16:07] <nerdy_kid> SubCool <shift> will give you grup
[16:20] <SubCool_> wow- talk about a idle room
[16:20] <SubCool_> anyone?
[16:24] <SubCool_> HOw do you get to recovery mode?
[16:27] <Peace-> SubCool_: reboot
[16:27] <Peace-> SubCool_: press shift
[16:27] <SubCool_> k
[16:27] <Peace-> select kernel recovery
[16:27] <SubCool_> just hold down shift?
[16:27] <Peace-> or something like that
[16:28] <SubCool_> after bios slapsh?
[16:28] <Peace-> SubCool_: press shift a lot  after rebooting
[16:28] <Peace-> until
[16:28] <Peace-> you see the grub windows
[16:29] <Peace-> SubCool_: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8qdyclOnG0A/THLXuZK2iLI/AAAAAAAAAWA/KPdv20Ya_NU/s1600/grub2.jpg
[16:29] <Peace-> that is the menu
[16:29] <Peace-> like you can see there is recovery
[16:29] <Peace-> select the first voice you can see
[16:30] <SubCool_> my problem has been getting to it
[16:30] <SubCool_> after the bios slapsh, it goes STRIAGHT to the kubuntu slpash. i never have a chance
[16:30] <SubCool_> let me try..
[16:30] <SubCool_> is there a file i can edit so that it will come up?
[16:31] <Peace-> SubCool_: yes there is
[16:31] <Peace-> SubCool_: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2009/09/18/kubuntu-karmic-grub2-and-kernels-menu-set-timeout/#comments
[16:33] <Peace-> good luck
[16:33] <Peace-> pkill konversation
[16:34] <SubCool_> thanks a lot!!!
[17:08] <SJr> How do I stop X from starting when I boot up?
[17:09] <Pici> !nox | SJr
[17:13] <SJr> Hmmmmm I don't seem to have a /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[17:31] <bluekb> I have a Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000.   When I go into the kde control center to set global shortcuts, I have tried to map Meta + KP_7 or Meta + KP_Home to go to desktop 1.   When it defines the mapping, though, it seems to miss that it's the /keypad/ keys, and instead either defines the mapping for the 7 above they qwerty keys or the regular home button.  When I try to actually test it by typing Meta+KP-Home, nothing happens.
[17:31] <bluekb> Any ideas?
[17:53] <SubCool_> i just edited my systesm grub file, and grub still didnt show during boot
[17:56] <bluekb> SubCool_, which file did you edit
[17:57] <SubCool_> my keyboard is acting up, srry
[17:57] <bluekb> Also, there is a grub option for hiding the grub loader - you might look into whether it needs to be set to false.
[17:57] <SubCool_> ugh. /etc/default/grub
[17:57] <bluekb> So you've probably got the new grub.
[17:57] <bluekb> Did you run the command to install grub after editing?
[17:57] <SubCool_> .. i do?
[17:57] <SubCool_> no, im on a live cd
[17:58] <SubCool_> trying to recover
[17:58] <bluekb> Um...  then /etc/default/grub is not the right file to edit.
[17:58] <bluekb> I think you will want to edit ... (checking)
[17:59] <bluekb> /boot/grub/menu.lst if it's the older version of grub.
[17:59] <bluekb> I'm not an expert.  I recently did some recovering myself.
[18:00] <bluekb> The way I solved my problem was to install a new ubuntu live cd onto a blank partition, edit the grub configuration file (/etc/default/grub) and add an option for grub to scan other partitions for operating systems.
[18:00] <bluekb> Something along those lines might help too.
[18:02] <SubCool_> well, what i need is to reinstall KDE. i uninstalled the base to fix a problem, now i have no recovery mode
[18:03] <SubCool_> i have 10.04 kubuntu installed, i think i would have the new one, uless the new one is on 10.10
[18:30] <subcool> laptop died, who was i talkming to?
[18:31] <subcool> i need to updae my grub from a liveusb.. and i cant do the update-grub
[18:41] <ch3mtail> Has there been a couple of complaints going around about elevated fan speeds since upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10 ?
[18:43] <xeni> uyfuyfudtyf
[18:45] <lontra> pretty impressed w/ rekonq so far. but boy is that a silly icon
[18:51] <lontra> argh.. i can't uninstall emacs23 w/o install emacs23-lucid ? what?
[18:52] <lontra> hmm .. now it's install emacs22 when i uninstall emacs23 ... something is screwed up
[18:58] <flats> I'm a fairly new  buntu user.  I've been noticing that I as I try various flavors of Linux some distros automatically find all my windows shares on all the PC's in my house and some don't and say I need to go thru a whole Samba config.  What is different that some distros automatically find everything?
[18:58] <flats> What is used to automatically find all my Windows shares?
[19:03] <RadSurfer> Regarding Skype: Would I download Ubuntu 32-bit version of Skype, or Debian Lenny? just to be certain.
[19:05] <lontra> RadSurfer: are you running ubuntu or debian?
[19:05] <RadSurfer> Lenny is for Sidux/Aptosid?
[19:05] <lontra> RadSurfer: lenny is for debian lenny
[19:05] <RadSurfer> kubuntu
[19:05] <RadSurfer> not actually debian...
[19:05] <lontra> RadSurfer: then you want the one for ubuntu
[19:05] <RadSurfer> just debian-compatible :)
[19:06] <lontra> ubuntu isn't debian compatible
[19:06] <lontra> at least not with binaries
[19:06] <RadSurfer> Ok.
[19:06] <lontra> they can sometimes install ok but it's bad practice to install a .deb from debian on a ubuntu machine and vice versa
[19:07] <RadSurfer> Gotcha.
[19:07] <RadSurfer> once kubuntu settled down on this machine, after running a few days, its been fine.
[19:11] <dfaure> how do I ensure that the eth0 uses a fixed IP, without disabling networkmanager completely?
[19:12] <dfaure> I configured an entry in knetworkmanager, but I still have to manually select it after boot, by default it uses DHCP
[19:15] <geekosopher> recently switched from jaunty to maverick (fresh install)... now whenever, I start my computer and login, the desktop effects are disabled by default, I have to manually start them everytime I boot
[19:16] <geekosopher> also a notification pops up that 'another program suspended by desktop effects'
[19:16] <gNewPower> Hi.  Though I mostly used GNOME, I am using a lot of KDE applications.  How can I increase the size of the fonts in the KDE applications I am running?  How can I mute all sounds from the KDE apps I am running. Thanks!
[19:17] <dfaure> gNewPower: systemsettings, Fonts  (or Alt+f2, fonts,  or kcmshell4 fonts)
[19:17] <gNewPower> dfaure, alt-F2 gets me to the GNOME sys settings
[19:17] <dfaure> you're not using kubuntu?
[19:17] <gNewPower> nope
[19:18] <dfaure> couldn't know, given the channel name ;)
[19:18] <gNewPower> Ubuntu
[19:18] <dfaure> run systemsettings, then
[19:18] <dfaure> or type "kcmshell4 fonts" in a terminal
[19:18] <gNewPower> thanks
[19:38] <LOGAN> hi im installing through WUBI and after done it ejects the CD and asks for reboot. Reboot into windows? into Kubuntu? and do I need to reinsert the CD to finish up installing under Kubuntu?
[19:39] <jschall_> is the 2.6.36 kernel going to be made available in meerkat?
[19:41] <dfaure> LOGAN: install is done, so reboot whereever you want ;) typically into kubuntu, though.
[19:41] <dfaure> you don't need the cd again
[19:41]  * dfaure is helping people but nobody is helping him with networkmakager and fixed IP :(
[19:43] <LOGAN> thanks dfaure as last time I tried it seemed that it needed cd for finishing install. hmm ok I try rebooting into kubuntu
[19:45] <LOGAN> heh now new Ubuntu will get Unity, will there be a Gubuntu that will keep traditional Gnome?
[19:50] <LOGAN> hmm upon reboot into kubuntu I get finishing install and press esc for more options. will it continue by itself?
[19:50] <LOGAN> Yeah I'm a noob :)
[19:52] <dfaure> LOGAN: that's without the cdrom in the drive?
[20:02] <LOGAN> dfaure: yes now I try with CDROM
[20:02] <LOGAN> on first try I ended also in command prompt apparently
[20:05] <dfaure> can't follow at all. When I install kubuntu, I need to boot on the CDROM only once.
[20:07] <LOGAN> well
[20:07] <LOGAN> it stated it could not find installation files
[20:07] <LOGAN> so I thought, it needed the cd rom after all
[20:08] <LOGAN> don't forget I used the fancy WUBI install
[20:08] <LOGAN> hmm now its just a black screen atm
[20:08] <LOGAN> ok I see kubuntu screen
[20:09] <LOGAN> so ill have to wait hehe
[20:15] <JuJuBee> What is a decent 2D drawing program for architecture? Don't need full architect stuff, just to sketch a house layout.
[20:17] <florian_> windows is kacke
[20:17] <LOGAN> florian_: but what is kacke?
[20:17] <DJWK> freeCAD might work for that
[20:18] <florian_> kacke = shit
[20:18] <florian_> ^
[20:18] <slush1000> Try Sweethome3d
[20:19] <LOGAN> oh florian_
[20:20] <LOGAN> hmm I hope the booting will improve lol
[20:20] <LOGAN> still kubuntu boot screen
[20:21] <LOGAN> but at least I see a cursor that I can move
[20:21]  * LOGAN rolls his eyes
[20:22] <JuJuBee> DJWK: I will check that out, thanks
[20:22] <dfaure> LOGAN: still booting on the CDROM? that's of course much slower than from the harddisk
[20:23] <LOGAN> dfaure: no it boots from HDD
[20:23] <JuJuBee> Does Ekiga work with skype?
[20:23] <LOGAN> but apparently it needed some files from CD rom to install
[20:24] <LOGAN> gosh the HDD still active. well it's a faster install than windows, hehe
[20:24] <LOGAN> but in live I would have been booted up
[20:24] <LOGAN> next time Ill better install from USB
[20:25] <LOGAN> hmm I heare a sound..... a windows sound
[20:26] <LOGAN> lol
[20:26] <LOGAN> hmm, ok re-booting into Kubuntu
[20:30] <matteo_> c'è qualcuno??
[20:31] <dfaure> !it | matteo_
[20:31] <matteo_> there is anybody alive outthere ??
[20:31] <dfaure> obviously
[20:32] <LOGAN> yay kubuntu booted
[20:35] <matteo_> # Spikeblood
[20:36] <chris_> help... I can't see the videoes with vlc anymore...
[20:39] <node808> Hey everyone, I just installed kubuntu on my laptop...looks great, runs great of course.  I have one issue and that is with the atheros wifi adapter.  The device is setup properly and working...I was able to scan and it showed several ap's in the area, but I cannot connect to any of them.  Can someone point me in the right direction?
[21:24] <pawleeq> hallo
[21:24] <node808> yep
[21:25] <pawleeq> my up arrow is not working (kubuntu 10.10, kde 4.5.1).. it works while used with shortcuts, but itself e.g. for scrolling within the document it does not
[21:25] <pawleeq> any clue pls?
[21:33] <Guest76168> Desu-recruit
[21:41] <dfaure> pawleeq: and down works??
[21:43] <Guest30794> IRC #Desu-recruit @ irc.rizon.net
[21:49] <pawleeq> dfaure, yeah down works
[21:50] <dfaure> type xev in a terminal, does it react similarly when you press "down" and "up" ?
[21:51] <lontra> hi is there a way to get the new kubuntu icon to replace my kmenu one?
[21:56] <pawleeq> dfaure, well it names key up and down when these are pressed
[21:56] <dfaure> pawleeq: ok so keyboard and X11 are fine; then I suspect a global shortcut in kde
[21:57] <pawleeq> lontra, right click the icon and choose Setings, click on the icon in following dialogue
[21:57] <pawleeq> dfaure, good, is there any app which could have eaten my up key? :)
[21:59] <dfaure> any ;) check kcmshell4 keys
[22:00] <fgnfgnry> Why do you prefer Kubuntu?
[22:00] <fgnfgnry> What's so good about KDE?
[22:00] <dfaure> kde is great, customizable, efficient, all-purpose
[22:01] <dfaure> consistent, extensive, powerful
[22:01] <dfaure> modern, slick, flexible
[22:01]  * dfaure is going to run out of adjectives somewhen....
[22:06] <fgnfgnry> so KDE is better than GNOME?
[22:06] <dfaure> by far
[22:16] <pawleeq> dfaure, lame question, how to check those keys?
[22:16] <dfaure> just go through the items in the combo and see if Up appears in the list below
[22:16] <dfaure> sorry, no better idea
[22:16] <noaXess> someone also have microphone problem after upgrading to 10.10?
[22:18] <LOGAN> I think my laptop is to slow for kubuntu. I can move mouse but it seems other menus are unresponsive
[22:19] <dfaure> LOGAN: try disabling nepomuk ("Desktop Search") in systemsettings
[22:20] <LOGAN> dfaure will that help against being unresponsive after a few minutes of using?
[22:20] <dfaure> it might
[22:26] <LOGAN> hmm does kubuntu have a software store like ubuntu?
[22:26] <LOGAN> was thinking about trying Blender
[22:27] <LOGAN> and maybe replacing some preinstalled applications by some more familiar ones
[22:29] <lontra> if i have an ati card should i just use radeon or should i use fglrx?
[22:34] <lontra> why does quassel try to open links in winebrowser ... what is winebrowser?
[22:43] <Space_Man> lontra: it depends on the type of card
[22:43] <lontra> here it's a little faster
[22:43] <Space_Man> fglrx doesn't support older cards
[22:43] <lontra> anyone know why rekonq doesn't have plasma notify integration? or does it?
[22:44] <dfaure> use konqueror (possibly with kwebkitpart)
[22:44] <lontra> but rekonq is quite usuable here and nice
[22:44]  * dfaure wonders if kubuntu 10.10 ships kwebkitpart
[22:46] <lontra> oh i don't even think 10.10 ships w/ konqueror
[22:46] <dfaure> sigh
[22:47] <dfaure> why do I even bother.
[22:47] <lontra> well rekonq is ok
[22:47] <dfaure> yeah, rub it in - I just spent 10 years working on konqueror....
[22:48] <lontra> oh really?
[22:48] <lontra> i said rekonq is OK not brilliant
[22:48] <dfaure> yep (well, and on other parts of kde which are fortunately used by everything else, so it's not all wasted...)
[22:49] <lontra> do you know why quassel is trying to open winebrowser when i click on a link?
[22:49] <dfaure> because you don't have konqueror installed?  hahaha
[22:49] <dfaure> no seriously, check `kcmshell4 componentchooser` and `keditfiletype text/html`
[22:50] <lontra> dfaure: ok it was the second reason
[22:52] <lontra> stupid wine
[22:52] <LOGAN> is it normal that updates are not digitally signed?
[22:53] <James147> LOGAN: no..
[22:54] <LOGAN> kununtu showed there were updates, and then came with "you are about to install unsigned.."
[22:54] <James147> LOGAN: can you pastebin the error from "sudo apt-get update"
[22:56] <LOGAN> im on Windows here
[22:56] <LOGAN> and a Linux noob
[23:12] <lucian_> hey whats the command to get all the upgrades for kubuntu
[23:12] <lucian_>  all the little packs
[23:12] <lucian_>  for effects
[23:12] <lucian_> and all that?
[23:12] <James147> lucian_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:13] <James147> lucian_: but what do you mean by 'little packs'?
[23:14] <lucian_> i have installed ubuntu first and after from symanteck iǘe installed kubuntu desktop
[23:14] <lucian_> and i can use dextop effects
[23:34] <johnny77> I have a folder view widget on one of my desktops. I thought one time I saw it showing the contents of the folder it points to, but I can only see a large folder icon until I click on it.
[23:34] <James147> johnny77: remove the widget and re add it
[23:36] <johnny77> James147: I still see just a big folder icon.
[23:37] <James147> hmm, ... try adding it on a new user, that will tell you if its a problem with the config files (most likly ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc)
[23:37] <nerdy_kid> johnny77 a big folder icon?  folder view doesnt show up as an icon unless it is in a panel (or its bugged)
[23:38] <nerdy_kid> are you sure it is not quick access?
[23:40] <johnny77> nerdy_kid: Yes, because when I right click on it one of the options is Folder View Settings.
[23:40] <nerdy_kid> johnny77: hmm ok.  mind posting a screenie?  gotta be quick though, I have to go soon.
[23:41] <johnny77> nerdy_kid: how?
[23:42] <johnny77> nerdy_kid: and what should i use so you can see the screen shot.
[23:42] <nerdy_kid> johnny77: hit the "prnt scrn" button on your keyboard, ksnapshot will pop up.  then upload it to http://imageshack.us/ and post the url here
[23:43] <nerdy_kid> johnny77: and resizing the folder view applet doesnt work?
[23:44] <johnny77> nerdy_kid: I think there is something wrong. One of my desktop just lost the icons i had on it...
[23:45] <nerdy_kid> johnny77: well if it is really messed up, then do what James147 suggested.  Create a new user and see if the problems happen from there.
[23:46] <nerdy_kid> johnny77: I have to go now, good luck.  If you still cant get it to work you can always post a thread on ubuntuforums.org
[23:46] <johnny77> nerdy_kid: thanks for your help, but after my desktops rest, the folder view works...
[23:47] <johnny77> *reset
[23:47] <nerdy_kid> johnny77: yeah you should start a thread or stick around for someone else to help you.  I gtg, good luck :)
[23:47] <johnny77> nerdy_kid: thanks


[20:18] <sabhain> does the  X-monitor.conf file in xorg.conf.d have to be "10-monitor" or can it be something else.  evdev is already at 10.
[23:53] <superm1> sabhain: it's resolved alphabetically
[23:53] <superm1> so 10-evdev comes before 10-monitor


[20:58] <drdozer> hi - I'm on eoan and have been for a few weeks without problems.
[20:58] <drdozer> But I dist-upgraded today and now the displays and monitor placement is bugged
[21:00] <drdozer> On logging in it places my monitors fairly randomly about the place, and if I go into the displays system settings module, that is really glitchy moving the monitors about, and when I log out and log in again it re-randomises them
[21:02] <drdozer> https://termbin.com/l1wui
[21:04] <drdozer> https://termbin.com/achp
[21:07] <tomreyn> an ubuntu pre-alpha release with proprietary nvidia drivers and an expectation that multi monitor output will work (and continue to work) properly is not a combination i would recommend.
[21:08] <tomreyn> is there a reason you don't just run LTS?
[21:37] <drdozer> tomreyn: I was on bionic so I upgraded to the newest thing I could find :) It was a big improvement in just about everything, especially the graphics drivers
[21:38] <drdozer> and I feel a warm fuzzy feeling knowing I will hit and contribute to getting fixed things so other people won't have to
[21:38] <drdozer> do you suggest I roll back one release?
[21:49] <tomreyn> drdozer: no, if you don't mind things breaking then contriubting towards stabilizing future releases is a great thing to do.
[21:54] <drdozer> cool - so how can I help narrowing this one down?
[22:00] <tomreyn> you could check which updates were installed during this last batch which broke it for you, review changelogs and source code changes for package updates which may have caused it.
[22:03] <tomreyn> you could downgrade those suspects to the earlier version and see if it fixes the issue for you. and report it if so.
[22:05] <drdozer> ok https://termbin.com/l2rf
[22:06] <drdozer> so it was probably the update I did on  2019-06-18 that broke things I'm guessing
[22:07] <drdozer> the nvidia driver bumped from 418 to 430
[22:11] <tomreyn> thats a good suspect ;)
[22:12] <tomreyn> reviewing source code changes might get difficult there, though
[22:12] <drdozer> indeed
[22:17] <drdozer> OK, I'm able to set screen locations through the nvidia-settings utility
[22:17] <drdozer> so it's something buggy in the glue into the kde settings widget
[22:25] <drdozer> OK, so by adding an xorg.conf, the screens are now at least correctly placed after starting a new x session
[22:26] <drdozer> going into the screens/displays tool is still mangling their positions, but they are corect in the nvidia x server settings tool
[22:27] <drdozer> I need to sleep - will see if this also happens on my laptop tomorrow


[03:24] <maxagaz> hi
[03:24] <iftachil_> hi
[03:25] <maxagaz> dhclient crashes in 17.04
[03:26] <maxagaz> package: isc-dhcp-client4.3.5-3ubuntu1
[03:26] <iftachil_> oh, im sorry. new to lubuntu too, maybe someone else can help
[03:49] <maxagaz> I'll try to install an older version
[05:41] <Ani_> hi anyone here
[13:07] <PhilD> Hi All. I am having trouble getting Lubuntu 17.04 to connect to wifi. Has anyone got any ideas? I'm very new to Linux so not sure what information you will need
[13:23]  * musician_pro si chiede se gmail non stia funzionando solo a lui
[16:50] <eterico> kewl
[16:50] <eterico> im just downloading Lubuntu, dunno how to boot an usb drive, working on it
[16:51] <eterico> i hope i can play runescape on it
[16:54] <teward> eterico: if 16.04 or later you'll need to download and obtain a library from an older release if you use the runescape client software
[16:54] <teward> (personal experience is being cited)
[16:55] <eterico> oh thats a nice tip ty
[16:58] <eterico> Im downloading 14.04.5 teward, thank u very much for your advice
[16:59] <teward> eterico: you should be OK then
[16:59] <teward> I prefer 16.04 though, and as a mega power user getting older packages into newer systems is not hard :P
[16:59] <teward> and it doesn't conflict with anything else (thank god)
[17:01] <eterico> jum... sounds good but im a virgin on Linux, so Ill better begin with this version and when i get used to it ill upgrade and addapt it to newer systems
[17:01] <eterico> id rather not risk my old laptop
[17:05] <eterico> hi durrty, im learning about linux instalattion as im a noob on this os
[17:06] <maxagaz> hi
[17:06] <eterico> I also dowsnloaded Point Linux but this version has more users and in consequence more assesment
[17:07] <eterico> hi maxagaz
[17:09] <maxagaz> I have no internet after first reboot in the last lubuntu
[17:09] <maxagaz> I reported the problem here https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2361388 but still no answer
[17:09] <maxagaz> do you guys have this problem ?
[17:12] <eterico> im a noob so i decided to download an older version as recommended by teward
[17:12] <teward> now now
[17:12] <teward> i didn't say i recommended it
[17:12] <eterico> ok, ok
[17:12] <teward> I always suggest 16.04 or latest LTS
[17:13] <teward> for *runescape* if you're a newbie to Linux and not a megapoweruser administrator like I am, 14.04 probably works better
[17:13] <eterico> less bugs n stuff
[17:13] <teward> and I already yelled at Runescape for using old libraries :P
[17:13] <eterico> lol yah ure rught and ty again
[17:17] <eterico> is there any recommended tutorial on how to boot lubuntu? Would win32diskimager-1.0.0 be ok?
[17:21] <eterico> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[17:31] <kringel> hello, hello
[17:32] <kringel> can someone help me with an lte surfstick from o² on a fresh installation of 17.04?
[17:33] <kringel> guess not, hm? bye, bye then
[17:33] <eterico> teward knows stuff, maybe hell be here in a minute
[17:34] <eterico> well
[17:37] <eterico> my ubuntu will be downloadad in 5 minutes
[21:09] <lubutnu-newbie21> Hello
[21:10] <lubutnu-newbie21> Could anyone help me with this, i cant upgrade anything on my machine. I havent used it in some time
[21:10] <lubutnu-newbie21> Here is the paste
[21:10] <lubutnu-newbie21> https://pastebin.com/REdyn68P
[21:11] <teward> lubutnu-newbie21: the actual problem is DNS on your system is messed up, make sure you have valid DNS servers set
[21:11] <lubutnu-newbie21> How could i do that?
[21:11] <wxl> yep that's what i would say too
[21:14] <wxl> lubutnu-newbie21: you can do it by editing your connection with nm-applet
[21:16] <lubutnu-newbie21> In Network Settings under DNS i have only <IP_ADDRESS>wxl
[21:16] <lubutnu-newbie21> wxl *
[21:16] <wxl> you could try <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:17] <lubutnu-newbie21> If my dns is messed up, shouldnt i be unable to access internet? Because im writing from this machine
[21:18] <wxl> dns is what resolves hostnames to ip addresses
[21:20] <lubutnu-newbie21> It would seem that its upgrading now. Lets see..
[21:33] <lubutnu-newbie21> Its fixed THANK YOU :)
[21:33] <wxl> np
[22:41] <pjconnect> hey!


[08:50] <davidcalle> dholbach: https://developer.staging.ubuntu.com/en/ click on Iot->Get started, then do it again
[08:51] <dholbach> https://developer.staging.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/snappy/get-started/as-dev/
[08:51] <dholbach> looks like there's a snappy too much in the URL
[08:51] <davidcalle> dholbach: for some reason the menu path is relative (both in the dropdown and breadcrumbs)
[08:52] <dholbach> I was thinking if this was one of the redirects
[08:54] <dholbach> hum... I don't quite get it
[08:55] <dholbach> I removed the [x] advertise from two of the imports
[08:55] <dholbach> not sure if that's it though
[09:04] <dholbach> davidcalle, I'm working on https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/developer-ubuntu-com/importer-versioning/+merge/294202 now - it's working out quite nicely so far, only thing left to add is the alias logic (to add redirects)
[09:16] <davidcalle> dholbach: so, in the admin, we will be able to set an "alias" <-> "version" map?
[09:16] <dholbach> yes
[09:16] <dholbach> for any branch it can be configured
[09:17] <davidcalle> Nice
[09:37] <dholbach> davidcalle, my thinking right now is that we configure something like: <branch>, version=16.04, alias=current
[09:38] <dholbach> so that we get snappy/guides/16.04 and redirects from snappy/guides/current/
[09:38] <dholbach> on the other hand would this create a big link/redirect/page farm
[09:39] <dholbach> maybe it'd make more sense to do this in the yet-to-come url-rewrite app(?)
[09:39] <dholbach> also making snappy/guides/X redirect to snappy/guides/current/X or something
[09:45] <davidcalle> dholbach: since there is no urgency for versioning (afaik at least), maybe it could be done through the url rewriting app
[09:47] <dholbach> so maybe I drop the 'alias' logic for now
[09:48] <dholbach> and we just add (if at all necessary) something to http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~developer-ubuntu-com-dev/developer-ubuntu-com/stable/view/head:/templates/404.html#L18
[09:54] <dholbach> davidcalle, ^ what do you think?
[09:59] <davidcalle> dholbach: well, on the bright side, it's easy and painless to do. But on the other hand, we shouldn't start relying to much on it. Or if we do, at least make it faster. (eg. by dropping the check if the page we want to redirect exists or not).
[10:00] <dholbach> is the plan still that we replace it with an app(?)
[10:00] <dholbach> a django app I mean
[10:01] <davidcalle> dholbach: well, it would be better, stuart is already complaining we rely on javascript for this :p and it can be a bit slow (between 0 and 2 sec), making people think there is no page at all.
[10:01] <dholbach> right
[10:02] <dholbach> but with the options of having a redirect app or a javascript redirect in place, I'm wondering if adding 'alias' to the branch configuration makes sense at all :)
[10:02] <davidcalle> right
[10:03] <dholbach> davidcalle, I think I'll drop it for now
[10:04] <dholbach> once we have the redirect app, we could add a redirect.add() call :)
[10:04] <davidcalle> dholbach: I was trying to figure out how it would work in practice, yes
[10:06] <dholbach> we're not in a real hurry with that one I guess :)
[10:06] <dholbach> my mom and my niece are here for lunch now - I'll remove the alias logic afterwards again :)
[10:07] <davidcalle> dholbach: enjoy :) I'll have a few things to ask you as well !
[10:09] <dholbach> cool
[12:28] <dholbach> davidcalle, https://developer.staging.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/get-started/as-dev/ - nice work! :-)
[12:35] <davidcalle> dholbach: hah, thanks. I've found a workaround for the eight-col auto resize the importer applies. There is a pr waiting for didier.
[12:36] <dholbach> <3 <3 <3
[12:39] <davidcalle> dholbach: my question from earlier was actually your feedback on ^ ;)
[12:39] <dholbach> it's brilliant work :)
[12:39] <davidcalle> dholbach: I'm looking for your redirect-app branch and can't find it
[12:41] <dholbach> it was WIP and I think I remember mhall119 saying that it wasn't the direction we agreed on
[12:41] <dholbach> I think I deleted it as your 404 branch came up at the same time
[12:42] <davidcalle> Ah right
[12:43] <davidcalle> dholbach: alright. So, until we make an app for this: what do you think about speeding up the current redirecter? I'd like your thoughts on the following:
[12:45] <davidcalle> Currently, it updates the url, looks if the new one exists, redirects. The 2nd step makes things slow. Maybe we can get rid of it? If the redirect target page doesn't exist, you would still end up on a 404, but with an updated url. (as opposed to currently: if the redirect target is missing, you stay on the original 404).
[12:46] <davidcalle> Now that I think again about it: the "report a bug" button would make you report a bug on the updated url, which is where we would want the fix.
[12:46] <davidcalle> So, it wouldn't be too bad
[12:47] <dholbach> I think that makes sense
[12:48] <davidcalle> alright, thanks
[13:10] <davidcalle> dholbach: if you can have a quick look https://code.launchpad.net/~davidc3/developer-ubuntu-com/faster-404-redirects/+merge/294240
[13:11] <dholbach> LGTM
[13:12] <davidcalle> ty
[13:58] <dholbach> davidcalle, http://docs.django-cms.org/en/latest/how_to/extending_page_title.html looks very nice to me - I'll play around with it :)
[14:01] <davidcalle> dholbach: here is our solution for tagging pages!
[14:01] <dholbach> yep
[16:35] <dholbach> davidcalle, when you talk to didrocks to merge the PR from you, can you get him to do the other one as well? :-)
[16:48] <dholbach> https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/developer-ubuntu-com/enable_admin_style/+merge/294275
[16:48] <dholbach> ^ most important MP of the day
[16:48] <dholbach> all right... and with that I call it a day - see you tomorrow! :-)
[19:28] <minot> hi, I'd like to update the page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDirectoryPHP to say that from 16.04, the default to use is /etc/apache2/mods-available/php7.0.conf
[19:28] <minot>  as opposed to php5.conf
[19:30] <minot> It says immutable page and so I can't edit it. Apparently I can edit the Home page but I don't want to try it
[19:49] <pleia2> minot: unfortunately that wiki had to be locked down due to spam, can you send your comment to the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>mailing list?
[19:49] <minot> OK will do
[19:49] <pleia2> (though that's a very old page and documentation is supposed to be on help.ubuntu.com/communty wiki, not sure how it ended up there...)