[00:00] <Dr_Willis> if you just want to give up.. have fun..
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> Theres dozens of people that  use Optimus/Bumblebee these days.. now a year+ ago... well.. it was a huge problem
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki/Troubleshooting
[00:01] <hector> Dr_Willis, i`m a bit confused not sure if you can answer to this but.. i have a fresh ubuntu install, havent installed anything from nvidia. the only thing i need to install now is bumblebee then?
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> Are you really using an nVidia Optimus card?    and they give a command,,,
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> hector:  the install guides give like 4 commands to run to install the needed stuff.
[00:02] <hector> morely like 2, other 2 are for old ubuntu versions
[00:02] <hector> unless im mistaken
[00:03] <hector> yo Dr_Willis it`s a optimus card
[00:03] <hector> thanks for the site, now at least we are 100% sure it uses optimus
[00:03] <hector> lol
[00:03] <hector> ic a lil progress
[00:04] <abimael> PLEASE forgive me if this is the wrong place and forum to ask, but I recently started learning how to use ubuntu and metasploit, Do i have to be certified to be a penetration tester?
[00:07] <infinitux> can anybody help me?
[00:07] <LiDaR> abimael, you should learn how to use a computer as first step
[00:09] <LiDaR> !ask > infinitux
[00:09] <infinitux> uh yeah, I posted my question already
[00:10] <abimael> LiDaR: well I believe I Do know how, but for the sake of understanding, what do you specifically mean?
[00:10] <infinitux> should I post it again?
[00:10] <meganerd> infinitux: I just switched back to this chan, so I did not see it, it helps to repost the question
[00:10] <py_can> abimael: =D
[00:11] <infinitux> here's my output from k3b - http://www.pasteall.org/34728
[00:11] <mindcat> help, Xubuntu 10.04.2 LiveCD can't detect my sata hard disk!
[00:11] <abimael> py_can: ??
[00:11] <LiDaR> !k3b
[00:11] <infinitux> Okay, so I go to create an audio cd in k3b and it says I don't have permission, so I run k3bsetup and set the permissions, and now I get a message about how it's unable to create cue sheet or something like that. why isn't k3b working?
[00:11] <py_can> abimael, no you do not need to be certified, just know what you're doing
[00:11] <abimael> py_can: oh ok, thanks
[00:11] <py_can> o_0
[00:13] <infinitux> any ideas?
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> infinitux:  make a new user and see... could be you ran somthing as root.. and now the user has no permissions to some dirs.. so id check all the users dirs in theior home also
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> infinitux:  how did you run k3bsetup?
[00:14] <infinitux> as my current user
[00:14] <infinitux> then when that didn't work, as root
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> and HOW exactly did you run it as root?
[00:15] <infinitux> sudo k3bsetup
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> that may be the whole issue then..
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> gksudo or the kde equilient for GUI apps
[00:15] <infinitux> okay. so how do I fix it?
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> Id bet theres some dirs/files owned by root in your home.. find them  fix them
[00:16] <spagewmf> Ubuntu 12.04 on a MacBook Air. The touchpad is absurdly sensitive. I want to disable three-finger window moves.  It's really the #1 for the platform you're on. Great.
[00:21] <natsirt> W4sp: Go kill yourself
[00:23] <W4sp> AndAy: ... and it's still maintained. :-)
[00:23] <LiDaR> too bad my aircard doesnt work with linux i sure miss using it
[00:23] <natsirt> Arp spoffong at the coffee shop?
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> natsirt:  do you have an actual support question?
[00:24] <spagewmf> I see other people asking for 'A way to disable the three-finger "move window"'
[00:24] <hector> Dr_Willis, ok, i`m getting started right now. added the x-swat ppa and the bumblebee one, but there`s nothing on the steps about installing the nvidia drivers before bumblebee, it just tells me to add the ppa.. should i install it or not?
[00:24] <hector> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[00:25] <spagewmf> Is there a channel for the Unity UI ?
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> hector:  I tInstall Bumblebee using the proprietary nvidia driver:
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> looks like the bumblebee-nvidia package is the driver
[00:25] <hector> hm
[00:25] <hector> weird, but let`s see
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> makes sence to me
[00:27] <gseulorkucyffo> hi there. I'm trying to get unlimited bash history. I tried setting HISTFILESIZE and HISTSIZE to very high values, I tried unsetting them. both doesn't work, after each reboot history gets truncated to 500 lines.
[00:27] <hector> Dr_Willis, i think you`re right according to arch wiki.
[00:28] <meganerd> gseulorkucyffo: check your .bashrc file
[00:28] <LiDaR> greatest part about linux is the feeling of accomplishment after spending 4 days to figure out how to make something work!
[00:28] <hector> Dr_Willis, In order to avoid installing nvidia-utils as a dependency when installing the nvidia driver, you have to install the nvidia-bumblebee package from the AUR instead (which is the same driver packaged for bumblebee usage).
[00:28] <gseulorkucyffo> meganerd: check it for what?
[00:28] <meganerd> HISTSIZE
[00:29] <gseulorkucyffo> well, I set that there
[00:29] <jrib> gseulorkucyffo: how did you set those values exactly?
[00:30] <easykill> hello. I reinstalled ubuntu on my computer to fix a problem with crashes coming out of standby, which i think was due to something i did. it seems to have worked, but my computer is crashing seemingly randomly now frequently and most bizzarely, refuses t boot from disk. i need to select my ubuntu flashdrive i installed from. it stores stuff on the main computer though, i restored a backup...
[00:30] <easykill> ...with my files and it takes a hell of a lot more than one gig. Any idea what is up?
[00:30] <lacrymology> hello, I write english, spanish and japanese, I was using just enlgish and spanish until this week I followed some guide and installed anty-IBus. Now spanish broke. Ctr+space switches anthy to japanese, Shft+Tab changes the keyboard layout to spanish, but the spanish "behavior" doesn't work (e.g.: ´a writes.. well, ´a instead of a an a with a ´ on top). Can someone give me a hand with this?
[00:30] <gseulorkucyffo> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169021/
[00:31] <hector> LiDaR, the greatest part is when you spend a weekend and still don`t get it to work haha
[00:31] <hector> xD
[00:31] <jrib> gseulorkucyffo: where is that from?  Your console?  Some file?
[00:31] <gseulorkucyffo> jrib: .bashrc
[00:31] <LiDaR> time for food bbl
[00:32] <jrib> gseulorkucyffo: and if you kill your terminal and do "echo $HISTSIZE", what happens?
[00:32] <jrib> gseulorkucyffo: erm, start a new terminal after killing your current one
[00:33] <gseulorkucyffo> jrib: 30000000
[00:34] <mindcat> help, Xubuntu 12.04 LiveCD can't detect my SATA hard drive!(that mean i can't install the xubuntu 12.04 to sata hard drive)
[00:34] <jrib> gseulorkucyffo: and you say after a reboot, that value does not persist?
[00:35] <meganerd> gseulorkucyffo: is this a live environment (like a bootable USB or CD)?
[00:35] <spagewmf> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/TouchpadSupport is out-of-date, it mentions Synaptic settings that don't exist in 12.04
[00:35] <gseulorkucyffo> jrib: persist? it is set correctly after boot. but the history is truncated to 500 lines.
[00:35] <gseulorkucyffo> meganerd: no
[00:36] <jrib> gseulorkucyffo: is HISTFILESIZE correct?
[00:36] <gseulorkucyffo> jrib: yes
[00:36] <W4sp> gseulorkucyffo: did you try 501 or iterate the value to see when it breaks?
[00:37] <jrib> gseulorkucyffo: can you generate a history now that is greater than 500 lines and verify it's saved correctly when you exit bash?
[00:37] <ji--> http://pastebin.com/J2SJRXtt Any idea where to remove wifi drivers from my blacklist? When I click activate it dumps this to jockey.log
[00:37] <ji--> 2012-08-26 20:30:08,382 WARNING: /sys/module/wl/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind wl driver
[00:37] <ji--> oops
[00:38] <ji--> 2012-08-26 20:30:54,750 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: blacklisted, b43legacy: blacklisted
[00:38] <ji--> yeah that's what I get
[00:39] <W4sp> gseulorkucyffo: I would also unset HISTFILESIZE and only have HISTSIZE set.
[00:39] <RyuGuns> Hello, I just xkill'd gedit, later trying to start it up, it says "** (gedit:3956): WARNING **: Failed to call gedit service: Timeout was reached"
[00:39] <gseulorkucyffo> W4sp: no I didn't, but I will try. jrib: the file is currently 832 lines long, no bash instance is running
[00:39] <gseulorkucyffo> W4sp: tried that, also tried it the other way around. same result.
[00:40] <jrib> gseulorkucyffo: so now the file will be truncated when you reboot?
[00:40] <hector> Dr_Willis, just an info.. nvidia-current is a dependency as it is downloading it now hehe
[00:41] <gseulorkucyffo> jrib: I guess so, I did not check the file after boot, only the history command in bash. I'll check.
[00:43] <W4sp> gseulorkucyffo: I would only have either HISTSIZE or HISTFILESIZE. Try four digits? Maybe bash goofs up at 1023? Don't know really.
[00:44] <craigbass1976> I've got a ppc version of ubuntu on an iBook g4.  The broadcom 4318 isn't working yet.  I get a message during boot about it with some instructions, but they go by too fast.  Where can I see the message now?
[00:45] <earthsmurf> hello?
[00:45] <earthsmurf> can anyone read me?
[00:46] <W4sp> earthsmurf: Hi, I can read you.
[00:46] <earthsmurf> ok cool first time using irq chat
[00:47] <earthsmurf> there is a bug with ubuntu that i'm trying to find a workaround for
[00:48] <Troy^> when i run a .run installer and there is a liscense agreement and it comes to the (END) how do i accept it?
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> Troy^:  tab and enter key.
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> and the q key to quit any text it may be showing.,
[00:48] <Troy^> hmm tab and enter didnt do anything
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> its useing 'more' or 'less' to show a large text file...
[00:49] <Troy^> ahh there we go
[00:49] <Troy^> thanks
[00:49] <earthsmurf> is there a way to hide disconnected messages in IRQ
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> earthsmurf:  its 'IRC'
[00:49] <craigbass1976> Dr_Willis, Oh, cool.  You're here.  Where are messages that go flying by at boot?  There are a few less things in /var/log/ than I'm used to seeing in 10.04 and earlier.
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> earthsmurf:  and it depends on your IRC client.
[00:49] <wjtaylor> Anyone successfully hook up an easycap to your ubuntu?
[00:49] <earthsmurf> using empathy
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> craigbass1976:   cant say ive really looked.. dmesg Might hold them. but i DO belive you can hit ctrl-s and ctrl-q to stop/restart messages as they scroll buy during boot.
[00:50] <samthewildone> How do I disable sleep mode in ubuntu ?
[00:50] <samthewildone> I need to turn it off
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> system settings -> brightness and lock perhaps samthewildone
[00:50] <samthewildone> wonderful Dr
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> Not sure what you mean by sleep mode.
[00:52] <earthsmurf> craigbass1976:  You need to enable boot logging, run sudo gedit /etc/default/bootlogd
[00:53] <earthsmurf> craigbass1976: Change BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes
[00:53] <Dr_Willis> night all.
[00:53] <earthsmurf> craigbass1976: then you can go to /var/log/boot.log
[00:54] <daninoz> is anyone here who use deadbeef ?
[00:54] <spagewmf> there's a #ubuntu-touch channel! Goodbye, thanks for the help :-/
[00:55] <W4sp> w
[00:56] <hermanlf> Anyone know why extras.ubuntu.com is down?
[00:57] <Troy^> what is extras.ubuntu.com have?
[00:58] <somsip> daninoz: yes
[00:58] <hermanlf> restricted stuff I do believe
[00:58] <redactd> it seems like the whole *.ubuntu.com domain is down
[00:59] <daninoz> somsip, do you know where can i get the mpris plugin? So i can integrate it with the sound indicator menu ?
[00:59] <somsip> daninoz: no idea
[01:00] <dwees> I have an Airlink 101 wifi card, which worked fine before I upgraded to 12.04
[01:00] <ilovenette> how do i share wlan0 internet to other pc over eth0
[01:01] <dwees> now it is claiming I am connected, but does not resolve DNS for anything, ping fails as well
[01:01] <dwees> suggestions?
[01:02] <daninoz> somsip, thx anyway
[01:04] <RyuGuns> Hello, I just xkill'd gedit, later trying to start it up, it says "** (gedit:3956): WARNING **: Failed to call gedit service: Timeout was reached"
[01:06] <IgorFreire> anyone here from Brazil?
[01:07] <W4sp> RyuGuns: That's probably due to your X server. If you logout and login it should work again. Next time use 'kill PID'.
[01:12] <imnichol> Anyone else having issues accessing ubuntu.com or canonical.com?
[01:13] <vamp774> @iminchol: nope
[01:13] <vamp774> on it right now in 12.04
[01:14] <somsip> imnichol: ubuntu.com okay here, canonical.com ok on 2nd attempt
[01:14] <imnichol> somsip, where are you located?
[01:14] <imnichol> I'm in Minnesota, USA
[01:14] <somsip> imnichol: Thailand
[01:14] <imnichol> Yeah downforeveryone.com says that the sites are both up, but I can't access them
[01:16] <gerrygprs> does enyone use cinnamon instead of unity?
[01:16] <vamp774> still usin gnome :D
[01:19] <hermanlf> imnichol, I am experiencing problems with them as well?
[01:19] <imnichol> hermanlf, what's your location?
[01:20] <hermanlf> Cali, US
[01:20] <imnichol> hermanlf, what's your ISP?
[01:20] <hermanlf> I ran a traceroute and the packets are dropping off in the UK, very weird.
[01:20] <hermanlf> Charter
[01:21] <imnichol> hermanlf, mine too
[01:21] <hermanlf> hmm
[01:21] <hermanlf> When did you notice the issue?
[01:21] <imnichol> Earlier today
[01:21] <hermanlf> oh ok, hopefully they'll get it sorted soon.  It's driving me insane.
[01:21] <imnichol> You're right, I see the traffic hitting ae-2-52.edge4.London1.Level3.net and then nothing else
[01:22] <hermanlf> yup
[01:22] <imnichol> That's obnoxious
[01:22] <hermanlf> very
[01:22] <imnichol> I'd call them and complain but I have no faith in their tech support
[01:22] <hermanlf> haha exactly, don't waste your breath
[01:22] <imnichol> hahah yep
[01:23] <Joe1> yo
[01:33] <Guest52284> hi
[01:33] <Guest52284> any girl here
[01:33] <fep> .
[01:35] <sin_tax> Is it possible to create a windows VM on a headless Ubuntu server that I can just RDP into?
[01:39] <SIFTU> sin_tax: yes
[01:40] <sin_tax> Thanks SIFTU
[01:40] <malcolm91> Hello. I am trying to figure out how to right click on my laptop.
[01:41] <SIFTU> sin_tax: KVM uses VNC to get console by default
[01:47] <WeThePeople> malcolm91, whats the prob
[01:47] <WeThePeople> watever
[01:51] <SH3WY> :)
[01:51] <SH3WY> Je tu někdo z CZ ?
[01:52] <trevorjay> Hello all
[01:52] <trolol> hello
[01:52] <Adie> GUYS, I NEED HELP D:
[01:52] <trevorjay> Can someone please tell me how to make dm-multipath stop marking the whole devices (of partitioned devices) as blocked for IO?
[01:53] <trolol> what you need help with?
[01:53] <trevorjay> I'm about to just rip the code out that does so, but I'd rather do this the right way
[01:53] <Adie> multi screen is not doing it right.
[01:53] <trevorjay> Adie: what exactly does that mean?
[01:54] <Adie> I am trying to get three displays to work, but they either overlay, or one gets disabled for some reason
[01:54] <Adie> it's weird
[01:54] <Adie> ANVE YOU EVER SEEN SCREENS INTERSECTING? D:
[01:54] <trevorjay> Adie: what gfx card, driver?
[01:55] <Adie> It's a 6970
[01:55] <Adie> I enabled all three displays via CCC
[01:55] <Adie> http://i.imgur.com/y2jrV.png
[01:55] <Adie> that's what I end up with
[01:55] <Adie> it's *funny*, but not what I want
[01:55] <Adie> lol
[01:55] <trevorj> Adie: sae card as me, nie
[01:56] <trevorj> Adie: whats this picture of
[01:56] <trevorj> Adie: two monitors?
[01:56] <Adie> 3
[01:56] <trevorj> Adie: wheres the third?
[01:56] <Adie> :|
[01:56] <Adie> it's there.
[01:56] <trevorj> Adie: how did you connect the three screens? Does X see all three screens? (ie run 'xrandr' and see what outputs it sees)
[01:57] <Adie> it sees all three screens.
[01:57] <trevorj> Adie: oh shit
[01:57] <trevorj> Adie: they do intersect don't they
[01:57] <trevorj> Adie: that's a fun one ;)
[01:57] <Adie> It's display port native + DVI + VGA
[01:57] <Adie> http://i.imgur.com/L6qvn.png
[01:57] <trevorj> Adie: which one is on the right
[01:58] <Adie> I try to correct it, and it errors
[01:58] <Adie> the one on the right is my VGA
[01:58] <trevorj> Adie: I figured so much!
[01:58] <trevorj> Adie: can you pastebin the output of xrandr
[01:59] <Adie> yes
[02:00] <Adie> http://pastebin.com/zUHaCvQQ
[02:00] <Adie> if my understanding of the error is correct, there is a set maximum X
[02:00] <trevorj> Adie: what error?
[02:00] <trevorj> Adie: and from what?
[02:00] <Adie> and I might be trying to go beyond that, so it ends up squishing em together
[02:01] <Adie> the error from the displays settings panel
[02:02] <trevorj> Adie: ah, from gnome-control-center's display applet?
[02:02] <trevorj> Adie: what error?
[02:03] <Adie> trevorj, http://i.imgur.com/GOplS.png
[02:05] <trevorj> Adie: ah
[02:05] <trevorj> Adie: do you have an xorg.conf
[02:06] <Adie> yes
[02:06] <rodan> hi rodan
[02:06] <trevorj> Adie: have you tried removing it?
[02:06] <trevorj> Adie: by removing I mean renaming it of course
[02:07] <Adie> >:U
[02:07] <trevorj> Adie: by removing I mean renaming it of course
[02:07] <Adie> okay
[02:07] <trevorj> Adie: have you tried removing it? ** is what I said before you quit
[02:07] <Adie> I will
[02:07] <trevorj> Adie: also are you using fglrx or radeon
[02:08] <trevorj> Adie: I've been loving the open source radeon drivers as of late with KMS and such
[02:08] <Adie> FGLRX
[02:08] <Adie> that's what ubuntu listed for me to install.
[02:08] <trevorj> Adie: fglrx is proprietary crap
[02:09] <zykotick9> trevorj: fyi "open source" ATI is still non-free, it relies on "propritary crap" firmware...
[02:09] <Adie> there are official drivers I should be looking for?
[02:09] <trevorj> zykotick9: I completely agree
[02:09] <trevorj> Adie: try using the radeon driver, it's free and already installed
[02:09] <Adie> how
[02:09] <trevorj> Adie: if you deactivate fglrx it will automatically be used
[02:09] <trevorj> Adie: also, rename xorg.conf
[02:10] <trevorj> zykotick9: does intel also rely on proprietary firmware blobs?
[02:10] <rodan> hi rodan
[02:10] <Adie> so you mean to say ubuntu will use proper drivers by default, and I should ignore the restricted/additional drivers listed?
[02:11] <zykotick9> trevorj: nope, intel is "free"
[02:11] <trevorj> zykotick9: good =D
[02:11] <trevorj> Adie: yes, 9/10
[02:11] <trevorj> Adie: and people say Linux requires so much configuring )
[02:11] <trevorj> Adie: ;)*
[02:12] <Adie> a sidetrack question: Can I both automatically mount my harddrives, and hide them from the unity launcher?
[02:13] <Adie> manual mounting is a pain for my music and torrent programs :|
[02:13] <trevorj> Adie: just add them to fstab
[02:13] <trevorj> Adie: that will do both
[02:13] <trevorj> Adie: the reason I said to rename xorg.conf just so you're aware is because X usually chooses some damn good defaults
[02:13] <Adie> I don't know what fstab is
[02:13] <Adie> :|
[02:13] <trevorj> Adie: /etc/fstab
[02:14] <trevorj> Adie: And many times people put a "Virtual $x $y" entry in there
[02:14] <Adie> also: this is kinda a jabby pokey mean question!
[02:14] <Adie> Is unity going to get better any time soon?
[02:14] <Adie> >_<
[02:15] <trevorj> Adie: it's already getting better
[02:15] <trevorj> Adie: did you see it in 10.04?
[02:15] <Adie> :/
[02:15] <Adie> It's like....
[02:15] <trevorj> Adie: it's new, give it some time to mature
[02:15] <Adie> apple-fied
[02:15] <Adie> except...
[02:15] <Adie> apple gives you more options
[02:15] <trevorj> Adie: plus there's a zillion other wms out there
[02:15] <trevorj> Adie: you are free to use any of them
[02:15] <Adie> on my mac I can actually drig my dock to another side
[02:15] <Adie> lol
[02:16] <Adie> *drag
[02:16] <trevorj> Adie: I'm sure unity will get dragging of it's dock
[02:16] <trevorj> Adie: just give it time to mature
[02:16] <Adie> tell me about WMS
[02:16] <trevorj> Adie: window managers
[02:16] <trevorj> Adie: I personally use xmonad
[02:16] <Adie> I am going to be stuck with ubuntu for a while, but I am really really new here kinda
[02:17] <trevorj> Adie: stuck? lol
[02:17] <Adie> for years I have tried ubuntu and always was reminded of the things I don't like
[02:17] <Adie> well, now I am learning to program, so we gotta make up and <3
[02:17] <trevorj> Adie: ah, good
[02:17] <trevorj> Adie: the annoyances I had when I first started using it
[02:17] <trevorj> Adie: eventually all left
[02:17] <trevorj> Adie: but they were really just differences I found
[02:18] <trevorj> Adie: not necessarily flaws (usually)
[02:18] <Adie> are there tricks to getting programs to work in WINE?
[02:18] <roobarb1> hello. I have two emacs frames open and alt-tab does not switch between them. I have to press Alt-tab, move to the emacs icon and wait for a while. (quite annoying!) Using "Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS". Can this be configured?
[02:18] <Adie> I can't seem to get trillian to work
[02:18] <trevorj> Adie: apt-get install winetricks
[02:18] <Adie> ><
[02:19] <trevorj> Adie: tbh, you're better off using a native client
[02:19] <trevorj> Adie: there are tons of them
[02:19] <trevorj> Adie: have you tried pidgin?
[02:19] <Adie> not gunna happen
[02:19] <Adie> it's not just about me liking trillian
[02:19] <Adie> it has a protocol called "astrA"
[02:19] <Adie> it gives you cross protocol syncing between all connected clients
[02:19] <Gaming4JC> hey all, just did a system upgrade and I'm getting a toaster popup about /root disk space is full
[02:20] <Adie> I use trillian on a lot of devices, and anything else will break the syncing :<
[02:20] <Gaming4JC> any ideas what could be causing that? :)
[02:20] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: clean up disk space ;)
[02:20] <Gaming4JC> I got 1TB HDD, so I doubt that.
[02:20] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: df -h
[02:20] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: sounds like your hd is partitioned
[02:20] <Gaming4JC> it says... /dev/sda1             9.2G  8.3G  412M  96% /
[02:20] <Gaming4JC> :O
[02:21] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: yeah, you're almost full cause you only gave 9.2G to your root partition
[02:21] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: why did you only give it under 10g?
[02:21] <Gaming4JC> I used default ubuntu install
[02:21] <Gaming4JC> dunno :P
[02:21] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: did you not overwrite or resize any existing partitions?
[02:21] <Gaming4JC> not afaik.
[02:21] <Nogal> Hey, how do I add a line to the login script to load thunar --daemon?
[02:21] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: default is to use any free non-partitioned space
[02:21] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: you can resize it
[02:21] <Gaming4JC> ok.
[02:21] <Gaming4JC> well my main drive
[02:22] <Gaming4JC> xfs
[02:22] <Gaming4JC> is...
[02:22] <d34d1ys1nz> I can't uninstall a program on wine - even tried uninstalling wine itself, it was still there - any suggestions?
[02:22] <Gaming4JC> 903.8 MB :)
[02:22] <Gaming4JC> GB*
[02:22] <Gaming4JC> heh/
[02:22] <Gaming4JC> trevorj: also can I view what's in my root directory that's taking up all that space (kinda like windir stat)?
[02:23] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: use that app, crap what's it called.. one sec
[02:23] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: baobab
[02:23] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: but straight up, you need to give more space to /
[02:23] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: and you didn't use default ubuntu install
[02:23] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: otherwise you'd be using LVM
[02:24] <LiDaR> d34d1ys1nz, rm -rf ~/.wine
[02:24] <Resinator> hey does anyone know anything about zorinos 6?
[02:24] <Gaming4JC> trevorj: boabab works great thanks!
[02:24] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: np, make sure you give more space to it
[02:24] <Nogal> testing something on my own..
[02:24] <Gaming4JC> ok, will look into it. Might upgrade soon anyways
[02:25] <trevorj> Adie: for wine, to get more apps to run create wine32 setup
[02:25] <Gaming4JC> still on oneiric.
[02:25] <Gaming4JC> :P
[02:25] <trevorj> Adie: I've even got ie9 running
[02:25] <Adie> hmm?
[02:25] <Adie> I dunno what you mean :I
[02:25] <trevorj> Adie: wine defaults to 64 bit mode
[02:25] <trevorj> Adie: nowadays
[02:25] <d34d1ys1nz> LiDaR: Didn't work
[02:26] <trevorj> Adie: problem is winetricks for instance only has URLs in it for numerous packages for 32 bit
[02:26] <Nogal> is there an equivilant of .xinitrc to use in xubuntu?
[02:26] <trevorj> Adie: make a script, throw it in /usr/local/bin/wine32
[02:26] <trevorj> Nogal: it's just that
[02:26] <trevorj> Adie: put this in it
[02:26] <LiDaR> d34d1ys1nz, the program is still listed in some menu ?
[02:27] <Nogal> trevorj: what do you mean? I had to copy a version from my arch box's /etc/skel to get it on here initially?
[02:27] <d34d1ys1nz> Yes, I've uninstalled wine via the software center, then ran the rm command, and the program is still in the menu
[02:27] <d34d1ys1nz> but only the program that is messing up is in the wine folder, nothing else.
[02:27] <LiDaR> d34d1ys1nz, might just be a dead link does it open wine when you click it ?
[02:27] <Nogal> The scripts included do not seem to run.
[02:28] <d34d1ys1nz> It says no such file/directory
[02:28] <d34d1ys1nz> But I needed to uninstall it so i can reinstall in hopes of getting it to work
[02:28] <LiDaR> d34d1ys1nz, its deleted you just need to delete the link to it
[02:28] <Adie> this is a lot of information
[02:28] <cfhowlett> d34d1ys1nz: you gotta go into the wine configurations to remove the entry
[02:28] <LiDaR> d34d1ys1nz, just reinstall
[02:28] <natsirt> sfw http://imgur.com/5NZv9
[02:28] <d34d1ys1nz> Okay I'll give it a try, thanks for the help
[02:29] <danny> any way to get better battery life with ubuntu on my old os same computer i got 3-4 hours battery now i barely make 2-3
[02:30] <LiDaR> danny, try powertop see whats using the power
[02:30] <danny> LiDaR: i have it installed how i do i use it ?
[02:31] <kkm> hi
[02:31] <kkm> hello
[02:31] <kkm> who all are there
[02:31] <Nogal> testing another idea...
[02:31] <LiDaR> danny, open a xterm .. type powertop
[02:31] <Gaming4JC> d34d1ys1nz: Might help ya out, back in the day when I was wine'ing a lot. ;) http://g4jc.christiangamemaker.com/wordpress/2010/09/how-to-completely-remove-wine-and-reinstall-it-with-working-menu-in-ubuntu-9-10/
[02:31] <Gaming4JC> kkm: hey there :D
[02:32] <yoof> hello
[02:32] <Gaming4JC> hi
[02:32] <kkm> can anyone help me in connecting to internet in ubuntu 12
[02:32] <yoof> i just installed ubuntu
[02:32]  * Gaming4JC installs evil adobe flash in a virtualbox...
[02:32] <cfhowlett> kkm: greetings
[02:32] <yoof> boy you guys have come a long way since the first time i used the OS in 2004
[02:32] <cfhowlett> kkm: you mean wireless connection
[02:32] <kkm> no , its wired
[02:33] <cfhowlett> kkm: but won't connect?
[02:33] <kkm> dynammic ip
[02:33] <danny> LiDaR: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169158/
[02:33] <trevorj> Adie: http://pastebin.com/ZqVDY6mU
[02:33] <kkm> hey cfhowlett
[02:33] <cfhowlett> kkm: sorry, can't help with that one...
[02:33] <trevorj> Adie: there's instructions fo r 32 bit wine setup
[02:33] <kkm> what happend
[02:33] <LiDaR> danny, your usb ports are using all the power
[02:33] <kkm> cfhowlett
[02:34] <trevorj> yoof: yeah, it's become really, really nice over the last 15 years
[02:34] <Adie> :O
[02:34] <d34d1ys1nz> LiDaR,cfhowlett,Gaming4JC - it worked, thank you.
[02:34] <cfhowlett> kkm: yeah, I see you but know nothing of dynamic IP connections
[02:34] <cfhowlett> d34d1ys1nz: great!  have fun, be safe
[02:34] <kkm> its a dial up
[02:34] <Nogal> Alright, I've tried loading/editing a .xinitrc and a .bash_profile (each located at ~/) as well as creating a custom .sh, chmod + x'ing it, and adding it to my sessions/startup... anyone got another idea?
[02:34] <Adie> do I put that in terminal, or save somewhere, or open as a file? :x
[02:34] <danny> LiDaR: how do i not use the usbs
[02:34] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[02:35] <kkm> cfhowlett : u know anything abt PPPoe connections
[02:35] <yoof> i remember the first time i installed ubuntu, i was bitching so much in the forums about how inferior ubuntu is compared to windows and how nothing worked properly. now the UI seems much better
[02:35] <Gaming4JC> netsplitted o.o
[02:35] <trevorj> yoof: inferiority is a relative concept
[02:35] <trevorj> yoof: but I get what you're saying ;)
[02:35] <cfhowlett> kkm: sorry, man.  getting the broadcom chipset on wifi is the limit of my experience.
[02:35] <ciscbro> Hello folks
[02:36] <kkm> ok cfhowlett
[02:36] <cfhowlett> yoof: have you a support request?  If not, this convo is best continued in ubuntu-offtopic please.
[02:36] <kkm> thakns anyways
[02:36] <Gaming4JC> yoof: you can always go back to 10.04LTS and install XP Gnome, even your friends will think your running a rock-solid non-bluescreen of death version of Windows XP :D
[02:36] <cfhowlett> ciscbro: greetings
[02:36] <homecable> any one have a asus 1025c
[02:36] <Adie> brb
[02:36] <yoof> no need for windows xp, windows 7 has been rock solid for me
[02:37] <Nogal> anyone got a minute to help figure out how to run a bash script at login on xubuntu?
[02:37] <Gaming4JC> yoof: I think there was a Windows7 theme for ubuntu too, lol.
[02:37] <trevorj> yoof: windows period tends to make me feel like I'm lacking something
[02:38] <kkm> is there anyone who can guide me connecting to my broadband connection
[02:38] <trevorj> yoof: I'm so sick of analyzing bsod crashdumps
[02:38] <ciscbro> Hello, I am in the /dev folder trying to figure out how ubuntu sees the 4 usb ports on my dell laptop. I am trying to mount a usb to serial cable to a usb port so I can connect the console port of a cisco router - any guidance?
[02:38] <yoof> which version of windows are you using?
[02:38] <trevorj> yoof: name any, I manage it
[02:38] <yoof> i hvent got a bsod in years
[02:39] <trevorj> yoof: I haven't used it myself in years
[02:39] <Gaming4JC> trevorj: I usually end up installing bash on Windows to survive.
[02:39] <kkm> is there anyone who can guide me connecting to my broadband connection on ubuntu 12.04
[02:40] <kkm> is there anyone who can guide me connecting to my broadband connection 12.04
[02:40] <whereami> I just did a dist-upgrade from oneiric to precise. While it was installing, gnome-shell quit working. After it rebooted, lightdm starts in a bad mode, and keyboard and mouse don't work. What should I do?
[02:40] <LiDaR> kkm, is it pppoe ?
[02:40] <whereami> by "gnome-shell quit working" i mean it exited, but the upgrade continued without a WM.
[02:40] <cfhowlett> whereami: clean install precise
[02:40] <yoof> have you tried buying a wireless card that works with ubuntu and then it works and be done with it?
[02:40] <kkm> yes
[02:40] <kkm> Lidar
[02:40] <cfhowlett> !who
[02:40] <kkm> it is
[02:41] <kkm> Lidar : it is a pppoe and dynamic ip
[02:41] <Gaming4JC> whereami: I think I had a similar problem, ended up apt-get installing lxde until I could reconfigure gnome-shell
[02:41] <trevorj> Gaming4JC: lol, me too, cygwin is the shit
[02:41] <trevorj> kkm: network manager supports those
[02:41] <LiDaR> kkm, click the connection icon top right then down at bottom click edit connections
[02:41] <cfhowlett> !language|revorj
[02:41] <Nogal> testing another idea...
[02:41] <ciscbro> my last message was to anyone with the patience to help me out.
[02:42] <kkm> Lidar : ya , done that
[02:42] <Adie> I broke it.
[02:42] <whereami> Gaming4JC, well, I can't even get to console, since the keyboard isn't working.
[02:42] <trevorj> Adie: ?
[02:42] <yoof> i recall back in the day it was so troublesome getting my laptop wireless card to work with ubuntu it would have been cheaper for me to just buy a copy of windows, now i see hardware support has improved vastly
[02:43] <whereami> cfhowlett, will the livecd preserve /home? I don't think I made it a separate partition.
[02:43] <Adie> idk
[02:43] <kkm> Lidar tell me what to do next
[02:43] <trevorj> Adie: like, what is broken, lol
[02:43] <Adie> it wouldn't boot
[02:43] <Adie> now I am in recovery mode
[02:43] <trevorj> Adie: you mean X recovery mode?
[02:43] <Adie> maybe I can blame my fstab. I not too good at this :(
[02:43] <trevorj> Adie: X failsafe mode?
[02:44] <trevorj> Adie: or are you in recovery mode selected at th grub menu
[02:44] <Adie> ya!
[02:44] <trevorj> Adie: which
[02:44] <Adie> the last one
[02:44] <LiDaR> kkm, check and make sure the settings are correct
[02:44] <trevorj> Adie: then how did you start xchat?
[02:44] <Adie> I recovery mode from grub, and told it to do something with fstab
[02:44] <trevorj> Adie: lol, im just personally interested
[02:44] <Adie> then booted up from the recovery menu
[02:45] <trevorj> Adie: ah
[02:45] <trevorj> Adie: pastebin your fstab for me
[02:45] <Adie> okay
[02:45] <cfhowlett> whereami: if you've a separate partition, /home can be preserved.  Just don't format it.  Otherwise ...
[02:45] <Adie> http://pastebin.com/XRh54tQ6
[02:45] <kkm> settings are correct and which connections and methods i should use
[02:45] <trevorj> whereami: the livecd will preserve everything unless you tell it otherwise
[02:45] <Adie> I used some mount configurations tool :|
[02:45] <trevorj> Adie: lol, use a text editor
[02:46] <Adie> NOOOO
[02:46] <whereami> trevorj, well, by "livecd" I really meant installer.
[02:46] <trevorj> whereami: same thing ;)
[02:46] <Adie> how can you tell me to use a text editor when I don't even know what I am suposed to type on
[02:46] <Adie> "plz mount my other drives on boot plz"
[02:46] <trevorj> Adie: man fstab
[02:46] <Adie> that doesn't work :(
[02:46] <trevorj> Adie: =P
[02:47] <bustacap> Any way of getting the side bar to lock in place instead of hiding?
[02:47] <trevorj> bustacap: thats the default
[02:47] <Adie> :|
[02:47] <trevorj> Adie: they are ntfs ?
[02:48] <Adie> settings > appearance >behavior tab
[02:48] <Adie> there is an auto hide the launcher setting ^_^
[02:48] <trevorj> Adie: change the fourth column to 'defaults'
[02:48] <Adie> trevorj, yup yup
[02:48] <Adie> okay
[02:48] <trevorj> Adie: also
[02:48] <trevorj> Adie: don't use /media/blah
[02:48] <trevorj> Adie: use /mnt/blah
[02:48] <kkm> is there any way to add widgets or gadgets in ubuntu like we do in windows
[02:48] <trevorj> Adie: mkdir the targets as well
[02:49] <Adie> the reason I didn't stick with the defaults is because the defaults of the program mout it in read only
[02:49] <trevorj> kkm: there's multiple softwares to do so in apt
[02:49] <Nogal> anyone know how to add a bash command to run at login?
[02:49] <trevorj> Nogal: ~/.bashrc
[02:49] <trevorj> kkm: I reemember one being called superkaramba
[02:49] <LiDaR> Nogal, rc.local
[02:49] <trevorj> kkm: but idk if that one's good anymore
[02:49] <trevorj> kkm: I haven't used it in ~5-6 years
[02:49] <Adie> brb ^_^
[02:50] <ciscbro> Hello, I am in the /dev folder trying to figure out how ubuntu sees the 4 usb ports on my dell laptop. I am trying to mount a usb to serial cable to a usb port so I can connect the console port of a cisco router - any guidance?
[02:50] <bustacap> Adie, ty, I guess I didn't see that when I looked.
[02:50] <trevorj> adie: wait
[02:50] <trevorj> bleh
[02:50] <kkm> trevorj : ok fine ..
[02:50] <cfhowlett> ciscbro: also check in with #ubuntu-server they might be able to help
[02:50] <trevorj> ciscbro: usb to serial?
[02:50] <trevorj> ciscbro: just use screen
[02:50] <trevorj> ciscbro: you don't mount anything
[02:50] <trevorj> ciscbro: I'm assuming it's a PL2303 chipset
[02:50] <Nogal> trevorj: trything that now, brb
[02:50] <trevorj> ciscbro: so just do screen /dev/ttyUSB0
[02:51] <trevorj> ciscbro: this works because it sees the serial connection and uses it like a PTY
[02:51] <kkm> Lidar : are you there
[02:52] <Nogal> still doesn't work, what's the path of rc.local?
[02:52] <LiDaR> Nogal, its in /etc/
[02:52] <trevorj> Nogal: it works
[02:52] <trevorj> Nogal: ~/.bashrc runs on interactive logins
[02:53] <trevorj> Adie: hi
[02:53] <Adie> trevorj, still broken ^_^
[02:53] <trevorj> Adie: sorry I told you it wrong
[02:53] <trevorj> Adie: lol, change ntfs to ntfs-3g
[02:53] <ciscbro> trevorj: thank you for the pointers, I received a message "sorry could not find a pty"
[02:53] <Adie> well, you can tell me what the problem is when I show you %_%
[02:53] <trevorj> ciscbro: sudo
[02:53] <Adie> deal?
[02:53] <unkzuck3r> someone uses cakephp with nginx?
[02:53] <trevorj> ciscbro: or add yourself to the proper group
[02:53] <unkzuck3r> I'm having problems
[02:53] <trevorj> unkzuck3r: I have before
[02:53] <Adie> http://i.imgur.com/LKmkD.jpg
[02:53] <Nogal> trevorj:  but when trying to add the "thunar --daemon &"  line, it does not load.
[02:53] <Adie> ubuntu stops loading there :x
[02:54] <trevorj> Nogal: whats thunar
[02:54] <kkm> what shortcut key to use to shut ubuntu down
[02:54] <trevorj> Nogal: is it an X app?
[02:54] <Nogal> It's the default file manager for xubuntu.
[02:54] <trevorj> Nogal: what DE
[02:54] <trevorj> Nogal: /wm?
[02:54] <trevorj> kkm: power button
[02:54] <Nogal> xfce/xfwm
[02:54] <trevorj> kkm: acpi power button *
[02:54] <trevorj> Nogal: do they use the standard autostart desktop location?
[02:55] <ciscbro> trevorj: awesome! thank you. I am going through the linux command line publication and just got to the permissions portion. This was sort of an emergency thing, you are the best
[02:55] <unkzuck3r> trevorj: how you set the file /nginx/sites-available/default?
[02:55] <trevorj> ciscbro: np!
[02:55] <trevorj> Nogal: ie, .desktop files in ~/.config/autostart
[02:55] <unkzuck3r> trevorj: can you help me?
[02:55] <trevorj> unkzuck3r: I juse do something like this
[02:55] <trevorj> unkzuck3r: standard setup really
[02:56] <trevorj> unkzuck3r: I'll pastebin it
[02:56] <Nogal> don't see one, I'm trying the rc.local trick
[02:56] <unkzuck3r> trevorj: but works? I appreciate it!
[02:56] <trevorj> Nogal: that wont work
[02:56] <trevorj> Nogal: thunar is an X app
[02:56] <LiDaR> rc.local is for scripts and backrounded tasks
[02:56] <Nogal> I'm running it in daemon mode
[02:57] <trevorj> Nogal: still needs X I guarantee you
[02:57] <aslan> Hi, I downloaded a RAR file which contain few .txt formate files, but I was unable to open the file in gedit or any of the txt editor... It's shows like encoded file..
[02:57] <Nogal> lame, is there any way to get this working correctly or should I just switch to another FM altogether?
[02:57] <trevorj> Nogal: find out where xfce stores it's startup
[02:57] <LiDaR> Nogal, what are you trying to do ?
[02:58] <chroot_> hi, how to create a qt develop environment in ubuntu?
[02:58] <trevorj> Nogal: if it uses autostart .desktop files in ~/.config/autostart/, then make one
[02:58] <Nogal> trevorj  it does not store it there, i'll have to do more research
[02:58] <trevorj> Nogal: xfce4-autostart-editor
[02:58] <Nogal> LiDaR, I'm trying to run thunar in deamon mode at login
[02:58] <trevorj> Nogal: Google told me that ^
[02:59] <aslan> Hi, I downloaded a RAR file which contain few .txt formate files, but I was unable to open the file in gedit or any of the txt editor... It's shows like encoded file..
[02:59] <LiDaR> Nogal, what is the purpose of that ?
[02:59] <somsip> aslan: you need unrar
[02:59] <Nogal> To not wait an exuberant amount of time for thunar to do its first load
[02:59] <Nogal> works in arch through a simple .xinitrc modification...
[02:59] <aslan> somsip, I installed Unrar too, but still it's sowing like that..
[03:00] <somsip> aslan: so you have unrar'ed the archive?
[03:00] <trevorj> Nogal: .xinitrc works on ubuntu too
[03:00] <trevorj> Nogal: but you need to use the xinitrc session
[03:00] <aslan> somsip, Yes
[03:00] <trevorj> Nogal: selected in lightdm
[03:01] <somsip> aslan: hmmm
[03:02] <trevorj> Nogal: try xfce4-autostart-editor
[03:02] <Nogal> Trevorj: command not found
[03:02] <trevorj> unkzuck3r: pasting now
[03:02] <Adie> >:U
[03:03] <aslan> somsip, Please help me out..
[03:03] <alkisg> aslan: extract the file, open gedit, and then go to file -> open and select the correct (non utf8) encoding for your language
[03:03] <somsip> aslan: what do you need to do?
[03:04] <unkzuck3r> trevorj: Oh man! Thanks. I did it!
[03:05] <aslan> alkisg, Somsip : I did it still it's showing the same...
[03:05] <avocado> what do i need to do to get my browser to show up in ubuntu's "default web browser" selection menu in system settings? (using 12.04 unity)
[03:05] <alkisg> aslan: can you upload the txt file somewhere without ever opening it with gedit, so that its contents are not altered? (i.e. don't use copy/paste for that...)
[03:06] <somsip> aslan: what should the contents of the file be - are they definitely text files? Just because they are name .txt means nothing
[03:07] <trevorj> unkzuck3r: http://pastebin.com/E2X0w2xQ
[03:07] <Nogal> Yeah, I'm just going to have to find a new file manager to replace thunar, and there's no way I'll use nautilus, anyone have a suggestion? I
[03:07] <trevorj> unkzuck3r: thats what I use, php-fpm with nginx
[03:07] <somsip> Nogal: pcmanfm
[03:07] <unkzuck3r> trevorj: me to
[03:08] <unkzuck3r> trevorj: me &too
[03:08] <aslan> alkisg, Sure I will copy that some where and give you the link now. Thank you for helping me a lot..
[03:08] <unkzuck3r> trevorj: thanks man! Very useful!
[03:08] <trevorj> unkzuck3r: np
[03:08] <avocado> nevermind, i figured it out http://askubuntu.com/questions/166455/how-do-i-make-luakit-my-default-browser
[03:09] <trevorj> ciscbro: you can also use minicom or gtkterm
[03:09] <trevorj> ciscbro: but screen is just so nice and easy ;)
[03:09] <ciscbro> trevorj: on a sidenote, I'm just learning linux and how the kernal works. I'm running bohdi which is ubuntu based and I have a generic VBox with an XP client.
[03:09] <ciscbro> trevorj: but the Vbox doesn't recognize any of my usb ports
[03:10] <trevorj> ciscbro: install the extras package
[03:10] <ciscbro> trevorj: yeah, I am astonished at how awesome screen is
[03:10] <trevorj> ciscbro: it's proprietary crap in my opinion
[03:10] <trevorj> ciscbro: kvm is nice too ;)
[03:10] <ciscbro> trevorj: well I don't even need it now that you've shared screen
[03:11] <Nogal> somsip: just installed it, I like it so far, brb for a test run of first boot
[03:11] <somsip> Nogal: cool. It's not fancy, but it's small and quick
[03:12] <Nogal> somsip you are awesome, thank you.
[03:12] <somsip> Nogal: easy enough :)
[03:12] <riz0n> Hello guys, I am setting up an Ubuntu Server 12.04, and am going by the Server Guide. I am trying to set up SASL Authentication in Dovecot, on page 237, it refers to editing a file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf. It wants to uncomment lines auth default section, in socket listen{ }. The problem is, the dovecot.conf file does not contain the lines as the documentation includes. Can someone tell me
[03:12] <riz0n> the file that I need to edit that contains this portion of the configuration? Thanks.
[03:13] <Nogal> somsip: does this have 'open terminal here' and '2pane mode' options?
[03:13] <cfhowlett> riz0n: #ubuntu-server might be better ...
[03:13] <Nogal> somsip: found terminal option, just looking for 2pane
[03:14] <riz0n> I will ask them. I figured I would ask here since there is a much broader audience.
[03:14] <somsip> Nogal: F4 for open terminal, I use CTRL-T for tabs rather than split screen, or more often I open two instances of pcmanfm if I really want that
[03:15] <Nogal> somsip: alright, I've also got emelfm2 for backup for my two-pane needs :P I do like pcmanfm as a default though, much more zippy than thunar ever was, and it's not useless like nautilus
[03:16] <LostMonk> so this may be a stupid question, but where do I set my screensaver and screen timeout?
[03:16] <ciscbro> trevorj: you meant VBox is proprietary junk right?
[03:17] <cfhowlett> LostMonk: not stupid.  what version of ubuntu are your running
[03:17] <hakarune> So on mint i symlinked the home folders (i.e. Documents, Downloads, Pictures, et al) to my shared NTFS partition (between win7 and linux), but forgot how i did it. How do i do on Ubuntu 12.04
[03:17] <LostMonk> uh, whatever is current on the site
[03:17] <LostMonk> 12 something
[03:18] <Nogal> hakarune: ln -s <target> <link>
[03:18] <cfhowlett> LostMonk: Ubuntu 12.04 then.  look in system settings
[03:18] <hakarune> LostMonk it's under system settings appearance
[03:18] <LostMonk> thanks
[03:19] <hakarune> Thanks Nogal, i could have sworn i dud more so thet appeared in the nav pane and didn'tconflict with current folders
[03:19] <LostMonk> hrm, all I have is background, theme and launcher icon size
[03:20] <cfhowlett> LostMonk: screensaver behavior is definitely in system settings ... somewhere.  :)  I can't be more precise as I'm on UbuntuStudio which is xfce based and has a slightly different layout
[03:21] <LostMonk> kk
[03:21] <LostMonk> will search some more then
[03:21] <Nogal> hakarune: not sure what you mean by conflicting, unless you've already got symlinks, then ln -sn <target> <link>
[03:21] <Nogal> as per nav-pane that should be fm-spceific
[03:22] <hakarune> No, did a fresh install on wed, just could have sworn there was an extra step, but idk lol.
[03:22] <Roasted> dumb question - but if I drop a script in cron.weekly, it'll run.... weekly? No? Do I have to do anything else in specific to get it moving or is simply dropping it in place enough?
[03:29] <david> hi guys , is there any way to access a solaris desktop from ubuntu?
[03:30] <jagginess> david, solaris sux
[03:30] <cfhowlett> david: can't see why there wouldn't be, but don't ask me how...
[03:30] <hakarune> Ok have a big problem...
[03:30] <david> hi guys , is there any way to access a solaris desktop from ubuntu? just like we access windows through rdp without using vnc as vnc settings have to be done on the server also
[03:30] <mn2010> Do you mean in the sense of VNC
[03:30] <david> i mean , other than vnc
[03:30] <david> since in vnc i have to do settings on the solaris server as well ,
[03:30] <mn2010> VNC is more unix specific, RDP is WINX specific
[03:30] <jagginess> david, maybe X11 tunnelling with ssh, but it'll be slower than vnc or nx
[03:31] <datruth> How can I chroot a user to their home directory when their connected via ssh?
[03:31] <mn2010> Well if you have SSH installed, X11 tunneling in possible
[03:31] <david> i want to straight away access solaris remote desktop through ubuntu , what would be the best way
[03:31] <mn2010> nevermind..
[03:31] <jagginess> datruth, just sftp? (if not then see how to make a jailroot -- you'll have to google jailroot ssh ubuntu)
[03:31] <kyle__> mn2010: Um, vnc is NOT unix specific.  It's fairly generic actually.
[03:31] <david> i want to be able to login to solaris desktop using my credentials , from my ubuntu client
[03:32] <datruth> jagginess: thanks
[03:32] <kyle__> david: Local network?
[03:32] <david> yes , local , and as well as remote
[03:32] <hakarune> So i moved home to old_home and couldn't login after reboot. Followed advice online to boit with live cd and copy all contents (sudo cp -R ) of old_home to home. I still can't login though
[03:32] <datruth> jagginess: is it easier to just set perms on like /home etc ?
[03:33] <jagginess> datruth, you can easily do a jailroot for sftp only
[03:33] <kyle__> david: And you want to use the solaris machine as a terminal to the ubuntu system, the ubuntu system as a terminal to the solaris system, or the solaris system AUTHENTICATING off of the ubuntu system?
[03:33] <datruth> jagginess: no I dont want it for sftp only I want it for the actrual ssh connection
[03:33] <jagginess> datruth, (with an sshd option), but jailrooting a shell access you have to do manual work
[03:33] <Nogal> hakarune: mv /old_home /home
[03:35] <hakarune> Ok will try that, thanks again Nogal (was following a post about how to use a storage partition as home folder before i got on here)... it didn't work -__-
[03:35] <david> @kyle : thanks for asking , actually i have installed ubuntu 12.04 on my desktop , and want to access a solaris gui ,( solaris system AUTHENTICATING off of the ubuntu system?)
[03:36] <jagginess> david, read your history.. i gave an alternative
[03:36] <Nogal> hakarune: Yeah, I normally only bother with that when setting up my partitions and mounting the storage partition as /home. You should be able to mount to another location without any issues, like /home/username/storage
[03:36] <LiDaR> kyle__, quit being lazy walk across the room if you want to use solaris !!
[03:37] <kyle__> david: that's saying two differeing things I think :)  Solaris authentication off of ubuntu is, login to solaris with your ubuntu username and password.  NIS is a nice way of doing this, reasonably secure (not hugely, but reasonably).
[03:37] <kyle__> LiDaR: The only solaris boxes I have access to are E420Rs.  They make more noise than a business jet.  Walk to the basement.
[03:37] <gry> i think they just want to remote desktop into the solaris with possibly a different password
[03:38] <david> i have some application dependencies , and to pull of some reports from solaris machine , so i want to login to solaris from my ubuntu client the way i login to windows
[03:38] <david> windows using rdesktop
[03:38] <kyle__> david: If you want to use solaris software, but display it on ubuntu, you can use X forwarding, via XDMCP, or ssh/telnet into solaris, set your DISPLAY variable to your ubuntu system, and run the software.
[03:38] <hakarune> Nogal:  it does auto mount at boot as /home the tutorial had me edit the fstab so it mounts at boot as /home and move home to old_home ... could it still be mounting at boot and making it so i can't login?
[03:38] <gry> david, probably just run xrdp server on solaris and rdesktop could be able to remote connect to that too
[03:39] <kyle__> david: You want a remote solaris desktop? That would be either XDMCP or VNC,
[03:39] <kyle__> david: XDMCP is very very fast, but your data can be sniffed on the wire, so it's only for internal use.
[03:39] <Nogal> hakarune: very possible, but unfortunately I have to go.
[03:40] <Nogal> you probably want to work through the tutorial you followed backwards to undo changes you made to fstab
[03:40] <david> @kyle : thanks , can i configure XDMCP on ubuntu?
[03:41] <david> without doing any configuration on solaris server?
[03:41] <hakarune> Ok, thanks
[03:41] <kyle__> david: Yes.  If you google for XDMCP, you can find articles on the LTSP site.  They should get you pretty far.
[03:42] <kyle__> david: You may have to enable some stuff on the solaris server, but I doubt it.  This stuff has been enabled by default from back when it was SunOS (BSD based), through every version of solaris I played with.
[03:42] <kyle__> david: Of course the last one I played with was quite awhile ago.
[03:43] <david> @kyle : ok
[03:44] <ocmsRzr> hi, I'm trying to connect a desktop to my wireless network.  I want
[03:44] <ocmsRzr> 	  to have Internet->Wireless Laptop->Router->Desktop
[03:47] <Adie> trevorj, I foxed it :x
[03:47] <Adie> fixed
[03:47] <LiDaR> ocmsRzr, wouldnt having net->router-> computers make more sense ?
[03:47] <Adie> ima continue to use these ati drivers, but the issue with my three screens is it was larger than the virtual screen maximum as defined by xorg
[03:48] <ocmsRzr> sorry, let me explain my situation a little more
[03:48] <Adie> it was limited to around 4200 px wide, and I exceeded that
[03:49] <ocmsRzr> I have a wireless router/modem combo from my ISP.  I have one desktop that doesn't have builtin wireless.  Its in a physically separate room and running cable to it isn't feasible.  I want to connect an old laptop to the wireless network and share its internet connection with the desktop
[03:50] <riz0n> ocmsRzr: why dont you get another router that supports DD-WRT and save yourself the headache?
[03:51] <d34d1ys1nz> When trying to connect to a vpn on ubuntu, is it required to close my browser for it to work?
[03:52] <ocmsRzr> I understand the accepted way of doing it.  I've had it set up with a crossover cable in the past.  I was just wondering if its possible.  I'll either find the crossover cable or buy a wireless router that I can bridge later
[03:52] <ocmsRzr> I just wanted the machine online tonight
[03:52] <LiDaR> ocmsRzr, its possible
[03:55] <Nico1> Hey all
[03:55] <thufir_> configuring mailman fails because the FQDN is wrong:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mailman  it doesn't work when I try "newlist mailman" as suggested.  Instead, mailman replies with "Illegal list name: mailman@dur".  where is it getting "dur"?  the FQDN, hosts and so forth are all set to "dur.bounceme.net".
[03:58] <Nico1> I'm currently installing Ubuntu through WUBI. I've always been a Windows user and I'm looking to branch out. I guess I would like to know what to start with / where to start.
[03:58] <cfhowlett> Nico1: don't wubi is my advice.
[03:59] <cfhowlett> Nico1: wubi is a TESTING platform for windows users to sample ubuntu.  It is NOT a permanent installation solution.  So sayeth the wubi developers.
[03:59] <kyle__> Nico1: Desktop or laptop?  Actually, either way, I think you should get a cheap usb drive, and run linux off of it.  Much better performance than wubi, and will let you keep your comfort zone of windows on your hardware, without risking it.
[03:59] <Nico1> Ah ok. I guess that is the purpose I am using it for currently. I'd love to have a dedicated machine for Ubuntu in the future.
[04:00] <alien64> to be frank wubi sucks
[04:00] <cfhowlett> Nico1: If you're inclined to merely test ubuntu, I'd suggest virtualbox over wubi, but that's just my bias.  If you want a permanent installation, look into dual booting
[04:00] <cfhowlett> Nico1: or use kyle_ method - USB is very effective
[04:00] <kyle__> Nico1: If your system has an SD card slot (and can boot from SD), you could get a 8/16/32GB sd card and run off of it...
[04:01] <kyle__> I used to carry an ubuntu install on SD to test laptops with.
[04:02] <Nico1> Once I'm inside of Ubuntu, where is a good place to start poking around?
[04:02] <cfhowlett> Nico1: depends what you want to do.  make music: audacity, make videos: openshot, make documents: libreoffice, edit photos: gimp
[04:03] <Super_Dog> Nico1:  What'cha want to do?
[04:04] <gry> they disconnected
[04:04] <barnex> Is there a way to make unity's switcher not reorder windows when switching? Or some workaround that will switch focus to the next window and can be made into keyboard shortcut?
[04:07] <Super_Dog> barnex:  still on 10.04 on a lot of my machines...  I thought you could turn Unity off in CCSM...???
[04:07] <barnex> yes, but other available switchers seem to behave the same way.
[04:08] <barnex> Also I want to use unity, just get rid of this one stupid behaviour
[04:08] <Super_Dog> I'm pretty sure there's a Unity icon in CCSM - Have you monkeyed with the settings?
[04:08] <Super_Dog> Buried deep in the bowels... :-)
[04:08] <barnex> There's a Unity Icon and I've monkeyed
[04:10] <barnex> only bools related to switcher are "automatically grid", "show minimized", and "bias alt-tab to prefer windows on the current viewport"
[04:10] <Super_Dog> Can you turn Switcher feature off and go with one of the other facilities in CCSM?  I know there's a batch of options.  One is the ring switcher and the other is the one that's like iTunes' cover flow...
[04:10] <Super_Dog> Don't have my Unity system booted right now...
[04:10] <barnex> I've checked those switchers and there doesn't seem to be option for it. And they all behave the same way
[04:10] <kyle__> Is there a way to disable the dash "windows key to search" when vinagre is fullscreen?
[04:12] <Super_Dog> barnex: Can you explain "exactly" what you mean by "re-order" windows?  I'm using 10.04 and I have standard "Shift Switcher" on...
[04:13] <barnex> Sure. When I have three windows open: A, B, C, and window A is active. I hit alt-tab once to get to the next window (B). I release alt-tab.
[04:13] <barnex> Now I'd expect to hit alt-tab again and get to window C, because it was after B on the list last time I checked
[04:13] <barnex> but now the order is B, A, C and I need to hit alt-tab twice to get to C
[04:14] <Blue1> sanity check - wine does NOT support usb, right?
[04:15] <lickalott> gents, running into an odd issue.   I installed ubuntu to /dev/sda but added 3x 500GB drives after installation.  they showed up as sdb, sdc and sdd.  I rebooted and not /boot shows up against sdb and my mounts in fstab won't mount (likely because /dev/sdb1 is supposed to be mounted to /media/<FOLDERNAME>)  anyone know whats going on here?
[04:15] <Super_Dog> barnex:  I think you're maybe just doing it wrong....  I just hold alt key down and I cycle through the open windows while hitting tab with the alt key remaining depressed...
[04:17] <Super_Dog> barnex: Holding down shift will reverse the order of the cycling if you want to go backwards to an open window....
[04:17] <Super_Dog> same way as it does in windows and in mac...
[04:18] <barnex> Super_Dog: Thanks, I'm aware of those techniques, I just don't like them
[04:18] <Nico1> I should not have installed WUBI.
[04:18] <lickalott> ^^ true
[04:18] <lickalott> tried that for all of 15 mins, then deleted
[04:18] <barnex> Because I hate to look and think when doing something simple like changing active window
[04:18] <Nico1> I restarted my machine and it would not let me boot.
[04:18] <lickalott> VM is the best way to go to have both
[04:19] <barnex> And this way 'distances' between windows change all the time and require thinking.
[04:19] <L4ur> Hello
[04:19] <UbuntuHelp_> Is the Ubuntu Repository currently offline?
[04:20] <Super_Dog> barnex:  been doing this for so many years this way I honestly don't even think about it....  trust me, you get used to it quick if you do it enough...
[04:20] <L4ur> I love apt-get :))
[04:20] <Nico1> lickalott: Any specific amount of system resources that I should assign it?
[04:20] <Super_Dog> barnex:  which switcher are you using in Unity?
[04:20] <lickalott> VM?
[04:21] <Raji> Hello Everone. Can any please tell me a open source mail server for lan , i want to install it on my ubuntu 12.04 desktop.
[04:21] <Nico1> lickalott: Yes
[04:21] <kevin_> hey guys. sometimes my usb devices just randomly stop working. does anybody have any idea? here is a dmesg trace. https://gist.github.com/cbec335ee57374c2dd6f
[04:21] <barnex> Super_Dog: Static switcher, I've some other issues with unity one.
[04:22] <lickalott> I only gave mine 25gb for storage and 2GB ram.  Shouldn't need more than that unless you plan on using it for stuff like WINE or a lot of process intensive stuff.
[04:22] <barnex> And those issues were window/app idea.
[04:22] <stiv2k> hi
[04:22] <D-coy> o/
[04:22] <stiv2k> how to stress test my graphics card from ubuntu live CD?
[04:23] <lickalott> HD 1080p porn?
[04:23] <D-coy> :D~
[04:23] <hector> SolarisBoy, it`s working now
[04:23] <Raji> Hello Everone. Can any please tell me a open source mail server for lan , i want to install it on my ubuntu 12.04 desktop.
[04:24] <lickalott> Raji http://bit.ly/OEa23X
[04:24] <stiv2k> lickalott lol
[04:24] <Super_Dog> barnex:  Not sure there is a real answer unless you figured out a way to re-code the behavior of the order of the windows.  Probably someone on here at a higher pay grade than me would have to answer that one.
[04:24] <lickalott> ;+\p
[04:24] <stiv2k> the machine doesnt have internet so i'd prefer not ot have to run cat5 to install anything
[04:24] <stiv2k> :/
[04:25] <lickalott> i got nothing for ya man.  do you have 2 disc drives?
[04:25] <kevin_> and when i say random, it's pretty random. i'll be typing or moving my mouse, then it just stops... doesn't work when i replug in either
[04:25] <UbuntuHelp_> What is wrong with the Linux Repos I'm trying to install things but 0/xMB downloaded..
[04:26] <lickalott> UbuntuHelp_ can you get to other parts of the interwebs?
[04:27] <newbchessplayer> does anyone know a fix yet for the random flash s-t-a-r-t- -a-n-d- -s-t-o-p-s that can only be temporarily fixed with a full reboot?
[04:27] <lickalott> had an issue with my interfaces once and had a similar message
[04:33] <Nico3> Would someone like to be my Ubuntu mentor?
[04:33] <WeThePeople> nico3, wazup
[04:33] <lickalott> rm -rf *
[04:33] <lickalott> JOKING!
[04:34] <cfhowlett> Nico3: nope.  but answering ONE ubuntu question is a reasonable request.  for more extensive support and mentoring, see your local linux user group or ubuntu loco
[04:34] <cfhowlett> lickalott: stop now.
[04:35] <lickalott> ?
[04:35] <Nico3> I guess I need to figure out what I would like to do in Ubuntu.
[04:36] <cfhowlett> Nico3: office documents?  edit music?  make graphics?  edit photos?  ...
[04:36] <cfhowlett> Nico3: and, of course, games.  look in the ubuntu software center for ideas.
[04:36] <Nico3> I've got libreoffice installed.
[04:37] <WeThePeople> nico3, go for the goods.. open office
[04:38] <WeThePeople> idk
[04:39] <lickalott> do you just want to get more familar with command line Nico3?
[04:41] <david__> how can I make unity hide when I open up windows in max size
[04:41] <Adie> You can set unity to autohode
[04:41] <david__> how?
[04:41] <Adie> but it will always autohide
[04:41] <wan26> compiz?
[04:41] <Adie> settings > appearance > behavior
[04:42] <david__> what about douging windows?
[04:46] <Nico3> lickalott: Sorry I didn't see your message. I guess I'm just going to play around a little bit.
[04:46] <david__> does everyone here use unity?
[04:47] <david__> or do other people use other DE ?
[04:47] <wan26> i use it :]
[04:47] <brandon> I just use unity
[04:47] <lickalott> are you looking to learn more about command line entry and stuff or are you wanting to use the GUI side more?
[04:48] <brandon> I've been playing around with like 5-6 different linux distributions and I keep coming back to Ubuntu and Unity lol
[04:48] <david__> I dont mind command line
[04:48] <david__> brandon me too. Just came back to Ubuntu
[04:49] <Treaver> Sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install will not work due to Ubuntu Repositories. ca.archive.ubuntu.com can someone tell me why?
[04:49] <david__> hard to get use to though. While unity is pretty that bar does get in the way
[04:49] <brandon> Yeah, I hate it on my laptop.  Seems to take up a lot of space, but its not bad on the desktop
[04:49] <hector> i`m on a 64 bit system (12.04) and i can`t install ia32-libs it says `package have unmet dependencies` any clue?
[04:50] <cfhowlett> Treaver: maybe those mirrors are temporarily out of service?  try setting a different software source
[04:50] <wan26> hector have you got multiarch support
[04:50] <hector> wan26, idk?
[04:51] <kevin_> david__: i don't use unity. i use gnome classic with no effects
[04:51] <hector> wan26, u mean ia32-libs-multiarch?
[04:52] <david__> I am thinking about cinnamon
[04:52] <brandon> I liked cinnamon, Mint is a solid distro
[04:52] <david__> Kevin how did you get gnome classic
[04:53] <david__> brandon what browser do you use btw
[04:53] <brandon> Firefox/Chrome
[04:53] <brandon> Chromium**
[04:54] <Adie> chromium vs chrome
[04:54] <Adie> gogogo
[04:54] <david__> I feel that chromium has bad integration in unbuntu with the max  and minimize and close button
[04:54] <brandon> Yeah
[04:54] <brandon> that bothers me a lot
[04:54] <brandon> lol
[04:54] <david__> know what I mean?
[04:54] <david__> do you know how to fix it?
[04:54] <kevin_> david__: uhm... you can try instructions at http://www.itworld.com/software/272614/use-gnome-classic-ubuntu-1204 for getting gnome classic
[04:55] <brandon> I think there's a way to make it look better.  One sec..gotta reinstall chromium
[04:55] <wan26> no, hector i thought you were installing that to run 32 bit binaries on a 64 bit machine, multiarch is the alternative to doing that
[04:56] <king_cobra> why not just install Mate desktop environment ..
[04:56] <hector> wan26, exactly, i need to run a 32bit app on my 64bit system
[04:56] <daneve05> hello guys, is this the support channel of ubuntu
[04:56] <cfhowlett> daneve05: it is.
[04:56] <WeThePeople> yes
[04:56] <kevin_> well i am going to sleep. goodnight
[04:57] <glassresistor> anyone know how to install the ubuntu software on andriod, i saw the advertisement on ubuntu.org but no install instructions or vendors selling it installed
[04:57] <brandon> david_, ok you can make it look better.  At least get rid of the double window buttons.  Wrench -> settings -> personal stuff -> and then select the option to use 'system title bar and borders'
[04:57] <cfhowlett> !arm|glassresistor:
[04:57] <daneve05> i got a problem in my bluetooth connection
[04:57] <Treaver> Ok someone please give me step by step instructions for getting new repos cause the ubuntu's aren't working or connecting
[04:58] <daneve05> anyone can help me
[04:58] <daneve05> i'm using ubuntu 12.04
[04:58] <cfhowlett> Treaver: in ubuntu 12.04?
[04:58] <WeThePeople> treaver, packages.ubuntu.com
[04:58] <Treaver> ttreYes in ubuntu 12.04
[04:58] <cfhowlett> Treaver: ubuntu update center, settings, software sources
[04:58] <david__> what do you mean by wrench?
[04:59] <theschwartz> the wrench icon, top right
[04:59] <theschwartz> of chromium
[04:59] <david__> o ok
[05:00] <theschwartz> I think that makes it look better integrated than the default setting
[05:00] <glassresistor> ubottu: im specifically talking about this http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[05:00] <glassresistor> oh haha
[05:00] <glassresistor> cfhowlett: i was specifically talking about http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android, is that the same thing?
[05:00] <Super_Dog> any of you guys slapped a full upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 12.04.1 LTS... just noticed this became available on a couple of my 10.04 LTS desktops today...
[05:01] <theschwartz> Super, I would probably just do a clean install
[05:01] <theschwartz> if you want to upgrade
[05:01] <cfhowlett> glassresistor: iirc android ubuntu is under development.  ARM is available now.
[05:01] <david__> Nice
[05:01] <david__> perfect
[05:01] <theschwartz> ok awesome
[05:01] <Super_Dog> I know.  I have some LAMP stuff - basically an AjaxPlorer install on this unit and didn't want to start from scratch...
[05:01] <theschwartz> Ahhh
[05:01] <daneve05_> hello, my wi-fi has no problem but my bluetooth cannot detect any device
[05:01] <daneve05_>  nor i cant even enable it or enable the visible button
[05:01] <j3f> hi guys.. how i can install graphi driver on my notebook mg101a3 ?
[05:01] <david__> would have never guessed
[05:02] <daneve05_> please hellp
[05:02] <glassresistor> cfhowlett: thanks, the advertising made it sound already here, what does ARM look like? is it vanilla ubuntu on andriod? is there desktop level hacks?
[05:02] <theschwartz> daneve, have you tried posting to the forums?
[05:02] <cfhowlett> glassresistor: never used it, but I think  you can run it in virtualbox?
[05:02] <theschwartz> david, yeah it took me a while to find that too
[05:02] <theschwartz> not sure why its not by default
[05:03] <j3f> hi guys.. how i can install graphi driver on my notebook mg101a3 ?
[05:03] <cfhowlett> glassresistor: sorry, VBOX won't work.  try qemu
[05:03] <daneve05_> theschwartz: nope, but i found same question there and yet still no answer
[05:03] <glassresistor> cfhowlett: thanks i mean its cool, im just a little confused as to how well this could work
[05:04] <theschwartz> Is the thread old?  If so, then I would go ahead and post your problem again
[05:04] <cfhowlett> glassresistor: we're all waiting to learn more.  :)
[05:04] <theschwartz> quick question, what IRC client is everyone using?
[05:04] <Super_Dog> Xchat...
[05:05] <j3f> hi guys.. how i can install graphi driver on my notebook mg101a3 ?
[05:05] <glassresistor> theschwartz: i presume different ones
[05:05] <glassresistor> irssi though
[05:05] <theschwartz> lol
[05:05] <cfhowlett> j3f: what driver do you want?
[05:05] <theschwartz> yeah I know, just getting a feel for whats out there.  i havent used IRC on Ubuntu, let alone use IRC in years....
[05:05] <cfhowlett> j3f: better yet, what graphics card do you have?
[05:05] <j3f> n10 family
[05:06] <j3f> is notebook mg101a3
[05:07] <wan26> theshcwartz you may want to have a cloak
[05:07] <theschwartz> huh?
[05:07] <j3f> someone have idea ?:C
[05:07] <david__> whats the difference between remove and complete remove in synaptic?
[05:07] <halias> Hello, I'm trying to install a dual boot Windows 8/Ubuntu 12.04.1. My disk has Windows 8 preview already installed but I left an 80GB empty partition. When I boot off the Ubuntu CD installer, it doesn't recognize my existing Windows partition and only sees a full empty disk. Is this a known issue?
[05:08] <wan26> winfs
[05:08] <theschwartz> wan26, what do you mean I should have a cloak?
[05:09] <cfhowlett> david__: remove removes the app, purge also removes the config files in /home - or thus has been my experience
[05:09] <cfhowlett> halias: something to do with uefi.  my uefi hackintosh has the same blind spot when I upgraded ubuntu
[05:10] <hector> anyone know how to get the ia32-libs installed?
[05:10] <Super_Dog> What do you guys think of this technique to virtualize my existing Ubuntu desktop install into VirtualBox:  http://goo.gl/7Mqet
[05:10] <LiDaR> apt-get install them
[05:11] <hector> LiDaR, i got the card to work properly
[05:11] <cfhowlett> Super_Dog: sounds good in theory.  However, plan for failure, back up /home and place the iso on standby
[05:11] <hector> the problem is now the game D:
[05:11] <halias> cfhowlett: Is there something I can do about the UEFI?
[05:11] <LiDaR> hector, sweet
[05:11] <Super_Dog> Kind of what I was thinking.
[05:13] <barnex> Ok, I wrote a script that sort-of works as a switcher... Time to bed
[05:13] <cfhowlett> halias: I don't think there's a solution.  windows 8 isn't even released yet, so the back hack hasn't been done.  Consider virtualbox on windows 8 to get ubuntu
[05:13] <Super_Dog> does dd write to ntfs drives?  sounds like I should probably grab an old drive out of my stash and hook it up with a USB header to do this...
[05:13] <daneve05_> i got a problem on my bluetooth, i cannot enable it in ubuntu 12.04, please help
[05:14] <cfhowlett> halias: or boot ubuntu via USB or cdrom for now.
[05:15] <halias> ok. So about VirtualBox, I've been trying that too :) Is there a known problem with Fullscreen mode? Whenever I turn on Fullscreen mode, my windows don't seem to have proper focus and my keyboard doesn't seem to send characters to the terminals/apps.
[05:15] <Super_Dog> halias:  You can also play "musical hard drives" if your bios supports it.  Just change the boot order in the bios every time you want to swtich OS's...
[05:16] <Super_Dog> That gets you around any problems with Grub2 not recognizing the Windows 8 or what not...
[05:16] <gogeta> Super_Dog: most bios do
[05:16] <cfhowlett> halias: 2 versions of vbox are available.
[05:16] <gogeta> Super_Dog: i thought windows 8 uses that awful efi
[05:16] <cfhowlett> halias: the one in the repos is basic.  For full support, dl directly from oracle.
[05:17] <halias> Super_Dog: Thanks for the thought, but I only have one disk.
[05:17] <cfhowlett> halias: AND download the extension pack
[05:17] <halias> chhowlett: I downloaded VirtualBox from Oracle.
[05:17] <Super_Dog> Last I checked it was same as Windows 7...  if you install 8 to one disk and Ubuntu to another - and then switch bios boot priority - don't see why that wouldn't work...
[05:17] <gogeta> halias: why would you whant windows 8 anyways
[05:17] <cfhowlett> halias: extension pack?
[05:18] <halias> I installed the "Install Guest Additions" from the menu if those are extensions.
[05:18] <gogeta> Super_Dog: he said he has one disk
[05:18] <Treaver> Ok I still haven't gotten an answer. I tried sudo apt-get install PlayOnLinux and it stopped at the ubuntu.com thing. Then I tried from the Software Center and it's downloaded 0mb/xxxmb
[05:18] <Treaver> Can someone tell me how I can fix this?!
[05:18] <Super_Dog> Can you find another? :-)
[05:18] <gogeta> Treaver: try running apt-get update first
[05:19] <Treaver> gogeta, I have. It stopped at the ubuntu.com thing too
[05:19] <halias> Basically, I don't want to pay for a Windows 7 license. I think it's too expensive. Windows 8 looks like it will be a better deal when it finally comes out. My system died so I needed to get a machine up and running and I couldn't wait until October.
[05:19] <gogeta> Treaver: then the repo is down
[05:19] <Treaver> When will it be up
[05:19] <gogeta> halias: it is out
[05:20] <gogeta> Treaver: dunno
[05:20] <zIz> gogeta: only RTM i believe, public release is still to come
[05:21] <daneve05__> ubuntu 12.04 doesnt detect my built-in bluetooth device
[05:21] <gogeta> halias: your machine if it came with 7 should have a key printed on it
[05:21] <zIz>  you find another? :-)
[05:21] <Treaver> Halias, if you need to temporarily download a torrent for Windows 7 and use your Genuine key it is legal.
[05:22] <gogeta> halias: yep you wont even need a cracked copy
[05:22] <gogeta> halias: just the retail iso
[05:23] <cfhowlett> halias: digital river .com is the official win7 download site.  download the iso, activate with your legal key and you're done
[05:23] <halias> I built my own machine. (It is a frankenstein of old and new parts.) So it didn't come with Windows 7. My last machine was 2000.
[05:23] <Treaver> Is ubuntu offline completely?
[05:23] <gogeta> halias: they sell you you the liance where you get the cd from does not matter
[05:23] <Treaver> http://ubuntu.com/
[05:23] <gogeta> halias: i see
[05:23] <cfhowlett> Treaver: works for me..
[05:24] <Super_Dog> I've got a Technet subscription.  Easy to download any ISO you want there...
[05:24] <Treaver> Could it be my ISP is blocked or something?
[05:24] <gogeta> halias: you can even install without a key and use it for 30 days also legal
[05:25] <lickalott> Super_Dog, let you a message in -server
[05:26] <lickalott> who here is on mIRC right now?
[05:26] <WeThePeople> treaver, no you are prob not connected to the net
[05:26] <gogeta> lol mirc
[05:26] <Treaver> I'm on the net using the IRC
[05:26] <cfhowlett> lickalott: have you an actual ubuntu support question?
[05:27] <halias> I didn't realize I could install windows for 30 days without a key.
[05:27] <lickalott> whats your issue man?   I did have one and it was answered.  I'm just asking a general question right now.
[05:27] <WeThePeople> treaver, its not your isp
[05:27] <histo> Treaver: works for me
[05:27] <gogeta> halias: yea microsoft did that with 7
[05:27] <Treaver> Could it be my IP?
[05:27] <WeThePeople> no
[05:27] <histo> !ot | lickalott
[05:28] <halias> Though I think I need to hold out until Oct 26 which is about 60 days :(
[05:28] <Adie> halias, windows 7 allows you to not activate for 3 months, I think
[05:28] <gogeta> halias: well relly if you on linux what do you need windows for
[05:28] <Adie> after 1 month it just starts bugging you
[05:29] <WeThePeople> treaver, what does the page say when you type in the address
[05:29] <Zeptis> hello there
[05:29] <PhyBoy> hello
[05:29] <lickalott> well...nazis.... where are you now?  windows talk isn't ubuntu support
[05:29] <cfhowlett> Zeptis: greetings
[05:29] <Zeptis> thanks, cfhowlett
[05:29] <gogeta> lickalott: his windows 8 install isnt being seen by grub
[05:29]  * cfhowlett "nazi's"?
[05:29] <Treaver> Absolutely nothing, just loads infinity
 I didn't realize I could install windows for 30 days without a key.
[05:30] <Zeptis> quick question so I don't brick X: can I replace unity-greeter with openbox-session in lightdm.conf?
[05:30] <histo> Treaver: could be your dns server
[05:30] <gogeta> lickalott: becouse 7 would work
[05:30] <Treaver> dns server?
[05:30] <halias>  I have some old music hardware that only works in Windows.
[05:30] <gogeta> Treaver: well do websites work
[05:30] <phy1729> Treaver: do you know how to ping?
[05:30] <histo> Zeptis: the login screen or you just want to replace the entire session?
[05:31] <Treaver> Yes other websites work, I'm on freenode now
[05:31] <halias> stupid proprietary drivers.
[05:31] <gogeta> Treaver: if websites work then the dns is working
[05:31] <Zeptis> login screen
[05:31] <histo> halias: good luck with it working in windows 8
[05:31] <histo> Zeptis: openbox isn't a login screen
[05:31] <monkeypaws> hello, anyone have a recomendation for a command line app that will backup specific files on a regular basis?  I was just going to use cron + tar?
[05:31] <WeThePeople> treaver, might be your location at the moment
[05:32] <WeThePeople> treaver, wait a bit
[05:32] <Adie> rsync?
[05:32] <monkeypaws> rsync eh?
[05:32] <Treaver> http://fpaste.org/bhOW/
[05:32] <Zeptis> it has a session manager; I'm trying to get X to use that, but I've added it to the ~/xinitrc that ubu doesn't have, and it doesn't work. Now I'm a little lost.
[05:32] <histo> monkeypaws: cron + rsync
[05:32] <Adie> rsync is built into ubuntu
[05:32] <gogeta> Treaver: yea might be the rought to ubuntu is just down for you atm on te isp side
[05:32] <phy1729> Treaver: run a traceroute
[05:33] <Treaver> Phy how do I do that
[05:33] <gogeta> Treaver: if google etc are still working fine
[05:33] <phy1729> Treaver: traceroute ubuntu.com
[05:33] <histo> Zeptis: I did not know openbox had a session manager that's cool. You'd have to replace lightdm with it
[05:34] <Treaver> Can't be found
[05:34] <Treaver> Unknown command
[05:34] <phy1729> oh ubuntu doesn't come with it
[05:34] <Zeptis> histo: that's helpful to know, thank you. Do you know what script calls lightdm on startup?
[05:34] <crimsonmane> it's trace, not traceroute
[05:34] <gogeta> phy1729: i think it does just abbreavted
[05:35] <crimsonmane> or ifconfig trace
[05:35] <phy1729> who did that?
[05:35] <histo> Treaver: it resolves and pings fine here not sure what the issue is for you. Somehting per your location
[05:35] <hector> anyone knows how to install ia32-libs on 12.04?
[05:35] <histo> Zeptis: let me do some hunting around
[05:35] <Zeptis> thank you.
[05:35] <gogeta> Treaver:  tracert ubuntucom
[05:35] <Treaver> It won't work either trace ubuntu.com not found
[05:35] <gogeta> Treaver: ubuntu.com
[05:35] <barnex> Hmmm, now I have weird issue with binding keyboard shortcuts. Some shortcuts seem to fail for no reason.
[05:36] <barnex> super+j, super+k, super + shift + number
[05:36] <barnex> but super + number works ok..
[05:36] <Treaver> Still won't work :p
[05:36] <phy1729> no he needs the traceroute package for all those
[05:36] <gogeta> Treaver: yep its ot installed
[05:36] <WeThePeople> treaver, try tomorrow
[05:37] <Treaver> I need it tonight before school tomorrow!
[05:37] <gogeta> Treaver: how bought ping google.com
[05:37] <Zeptis> Treaver: what's your problem? I've come in late.
[05:37] <histo> Zeptis: you can sudo echo "manual" >> /etc/init/lightdm.override   to disable it from autostarting on boot.  Then to renable just sudo rm /etc/init.lightdm.override
[05:37] <gogeta> Treaver: it could just be on the isp side atm
[05:37] <Zeptis> histo: thank you very much
[05:37] <phy1729> we could ping setting the TTL manually
[05:37] <phy1729> ping -t <TTL> ubuntu.com
[05:38] <phy1729> incrementing the TTL until it doesn't work
[05:38] <Treaver> no such ttl
[05:38] <phy1729> ping -t 3 ubuntu.com
[05:38] <gogeta> histo: thats kinda a extra step
[05:38] <gogeta> histo: you can just do service ldm rmov
[05:38] <gogeta> histo: remove
[05:38] <phy1729> by <TTL> I meant put the TTL number there
[05:38] <WeThePeople> treaver, have access to another comp at the moment
[05:39] <Treaver> no I do not sadly..
[05:39] <histo> gogeta: yeah but then harder for him to re add it later
[05:39] <Treaver> http://fpaste.org/nw06/
[05:39] <phy1729> Treaver: ping -t 3 ubuntu.com
[05:39] <gogeta> histo: same command but add
[05:39] <Treaver> I did that phy
[05:39] <crimsonmane> i was late to the party... Treaver what is the problem from the beginning?
[05:39] <halias> I have an Intel HD 4000. in VirtualBox, Is there something I can do to get OpenGL acceleration to work (or work better)? I installed the "Guest Additions" and toggled the 3D check box. But glxgears seems kind of slow and I can't get Braid to launch.
[05:39] <phy1729> oh look at that
[05:39] <phy1729> Treaver: keep increasing the number until it just fails
[05:40] <crimsonmane> halias: not with VB ... other VM's are smoother.
[05:40] <Zeptis> @gogeta: do you happen to know which script calls lightdm on startup? Ubuntu's X is a tad strange.
[05:40] <gogeta> Zeptis: it shold be in rc.d
[05:41] <Zeptis> thank you
[05:41] <gogeta> Zeptis: most start up programs are there
[05:41] <WeThePeople> treaver, what browser you using
[05:41] <Treaver> It's not working in any browser but Chrome
[05:41] <Zeptis> treaver: what problem are you having? I'm late to the party.
[05:41] <GatorAlli> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS 64bit on my Dell XPS 15 from the Live CD. But, when I get to Installation Type, I get this screen http://i.stack.imgur.com/dsKXS.png .  The bootloader installation location list does not show /dev/sda. My fdisk is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169284/
[05:42] <phy1729> Zeptis: can't ping ubuntu.com
[05:42] <phy1729> apt-get problems
[05:42] <Treaver> GatorAlli, make a new disk.
[05:42] <GatorAlli> Treaver: reformat?
[05:42] <gogeta> GatorAlli: llol
[05:42] <Treaver> Gator make a completely new installation disk
[05:42] <gogeta> Treaver: you can always set another repo
[05:42] <GatorAlli> Treaver: k
[05:42] <Treaver> I had that problem before, it's a corrupt image
[05:43] <Treaver> gogeta, how do I do that
[05:43] <cfhowlett> GatorAlli: was this ever a hackintosh?
[05:43] <Zeptis> Treaver: can you 'ping <IP_ADDRESS>' ?
[05:43] <GatorAlli> cfhowlett: no
[05:43] <phy1729> GatorAlli: check the checksum of the iso you downloaded
[05:43] <gogeta> Treaver: go to the update manaer and settings
[05:43] <cfhowlett> !checksum|GatorAlli
[05:43] <Treaver> No I can't that ip
[05:44] <gogeta> Treaver: you should see mirror settings etc slect other then just hit the slect best buttion
[05:44] <Zeptis> but you can ping everything else, correct?
[05:44] <mercue19100> hi all
[05:44] <Zeptis> hello mercue.
[05:45] <gogeta> Treaver: iits a drop down menu it should say ubntu main atm
[05:45] <cfhowlett> mercue19100: greetings
[05:45] <mercue19100> i use slatiz
[05:45] <Treaver> I checked the main server is that right?
[05:45] <Treaver> It was on canada
[05:46] <gogeta> Treaver: well you can try that
[05:46] <Treaver> :/ I just want to get PlayOnLinux and Eclipse IDE.. So hard
[05:46] <phy1729> I'd still just ping while increasing the TTL to find where the problem is
[05:46] <gogeta> Treaver: but you can also slect other and thers a option there to do a repo scan
[05:47] <mercue19100> vertuel machine with vmware
[05:47] <mercue19100> i setup it correctly
[05:47] <mercue19100> i can't use internet
[05:47] <Zeptis> Treaver: you could use the Arch repositories with git, but that's a little bit more fiddly than apt-get
[05:47] <Treaver> I'm running best mirror scan
[05:47] <Treaver> arch reposs?
[05:47] <cfhowlett> Treaver: I was into ubuntu for years before I learned the magic of localizing my repo mirror.  Best thing evar!
[05:47] <gogeta> Treaver: that will get you a working repo
[05:47] <Zeptis> to get your Eclipse and PlayOnLinux
[05:48] <Treaver> Ok thanks one sec I am workign on finding best server then i will try zeptis way
[05:48] <Zeptis> best of luck, Treaver
[05:48] <gogeta> Treaver: best to sitck to debs lol
[05:49] <Treaver> I was installing a deb and it had to download stuff and it wouldn't cuz of the ubuntu stuff
[05:49] <gogeta> Treaver: its funny how many people dont knoe tha option is there
[05:49] <Zeptis> could you please be more specific, Treaver?
[05:50] <gogeta> Treaver: relly the case when a bug update comes out and the main server gets overloaded
[05:50] <Zeptis> were you using apt-get?
[05:50] <gogeta> big
[05:50] <Treaver> I downloaded the PlayOnLinux.deb and tried to installusing both terminal and software center
[05:50] <Treaver> Both had to download stuff from the ubuntu.com orsomething
[05:50] <gogeta> Zeptis: his apt is just on a down server am
[05:51] <felipe_Brz> i'm having trouble echoing a string to a file even though i'm using sudo. The file is inside /etc/apache2/conf.d ... I'm getting "-bash: Permission denied" error message...
[05:51] <Treaver> Well it might have worked second I will tell ya
[05:51] <felipe_Brz> any tips?
[05:51] <Guest85087> does anybody know a good place to download ebooks?
[05:51] <gogeta> Treaver: run update first being you changed repos
[05:51] <gogeta> Treaver: if that wrking your good
[05:51] <Zeptis> other than scribd, 85087?
[05:52] <Guest85087> what is scribd?
[05:52] <Guest85087> a website?
[05:52] <Zeptis> yes it is
[05:52] <Zeptis> think of it as mediafire for pdfs
[05:52] <Guest85087> let me take a look... is it .com?
[05:52] <wan26> project gutenberg for free ebooks
[05:53] <Phiscribe> http://www.gutenberg.org/
[05:53] <Zeptis> http://scribd.com
[05:53] <WeThePeople> p2p
[05:53] <Zeptis> looking for textbooks, 85087?
[05:54] <Treaver> I think that worked :)
[05:54] <Treaver> I will be back next problem I get (Because we all know there will be one) :P
[05:54] <WeThePeople> felipe_brz, use gksudo nautilus
[05:54] <gogeta> Treaver: lol
[05:54] <Phiscribe> https://play.google.com/store/books has a free books section also
[05:54] <Treaver> (: Ubuntu.com is still offline..
[05:55] <Treaver> on my computer
[05:55] <Guest85087> I want a good place to download all kind of ebooks, but mostly fiction
[05:55] <wan26> try windows manuals
[05:55] <Zeptis> I'd go to gutenburg, then, 85087.
[05:55] <gogeta> Treaver: did you  run apt-get update
[05:55] <Zeptis> scribd is mostly 'liberated' textbooks and the life
[05:55] <fishscene> Treaver: If you ping ubuntu.com, what IP address does it return?
[05:55] <Zeptis> *like
[05:55] <felipe_Brz> WeThePeople:  what?
[05:55] <gogeta> Treaver: then your package should install
[05:56] <gogeta> Treaver: your not using ubuntus servers atm
[05:56] <WeThePeople> felipe_brz, are you trying to edit a file?
[05:56] <Treaver> http://launchpad.net/ -- Repos are offline for me also..
[05:57] <wan26> treaver can you access ubuntu.com via proxy
[05:57] <felipe_Brz> WeThePeople:  no, I was wondering why output redirecting wasn't working but I already fgured it out, thanks
[05:57] <WeThePeople> felipe_brz, nvr mind i got questions mixed
[05:57] <gogeta> Treaver: so we are not talking abought payonlinux now?
[05:58] <Treaver> Yes.. I can get on ubuntu with proxy. I'm scared. Am I blocked?!! Why?!
[05:58] <wan26> that's weird
[05:58] <gogeta> Treaver: have you tryed ubuntu.ca
[05:58] <gogeta> Treaver: it just sounds like the isp is having a issue
[05:58] <ferni> is routing problem propably
[05:59] <ferni> try mtr ubuntu.com
[05:59] <Treaver> :/ I am sad because I don't want to be blocked and I want to download 12.04.1
[05:59] <Treaver> Can I just update using ubuntu to 12.04.1?
[05:59] <wan26> you might be able to download what you need via proxy...
[05:59] <gogeta> Treaver: with your apt fixed you can pdate just fine
[06:00] <gogeta> Treaver: update
[06:00] <Treaver> how do I update to 12.04.1 with command
[06:00] <gogeta> Treaver: in your update manager it should say upgrade avable
[06:00] <Treaver> Nope none available :p
[06:00] <drag0nius> how to list all entries on iptables?
[06:00] <gogeta> Treaver: are you runnning 12.04?
[06:00] <Treaver> Yes
[06:01] <gogeta> Treaver: then you are running that latest version
[06:01] <Treaver> Oh lol why did they change it to 12.04.1
[06:01] <Treaver> :P
[06:01] <Zeptis> Treaver; can you 'sudo apt-get update'?
[06:01] <gogeta> Treaver: thats just a newer iso with all the updates
[06:01] <Treaver> :O Oh
[06:01] <gogeta> Zeptis: yea after he got a new mirror apt is fine
[06:02] <drag0nius> guys, how to list/delete rule from iptables?
[06:02] <drag0nius> i just redirected glassfish to port 80 with some command on net and cannot access http internet anymore xd
[06:02] <wan26> i do it through gufw
[06:02] <mobhero> hi, what will be the name of 27th hard disk drive , like /dev/sda  /dev/sdb ..... /dev/sdz  -- pls help me..42
[06:03] <nonix4> Hmm... www.ubuntu.com, security.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org do not seem to be responding. Is this known issue?
[06:03] <wan26> or sudo ufw status, man ufw
[06:03] <Treaver> Nonix4 I had that same problem 4 minutes ago!@@!
[06:03] <gogeta> nonix4: yes
[06:03] <Treaver> You gotta go to change the server :P
[06:04] <Zeptis> nonix4: I believe that one local server is down
[06:04] <Treaver> If you goto ubuntu.com it doesn't work either!
[06:04] <gogeta> nonix4: seems its down for some people
[06:04] <Treaver> nonix are you on Charter?
[06:05] <nonix4> Treaver: teliasonera
[06:05] <gogeta> Treaver: seems its not responding for me eyther
[06:05] <gogeta> Treaver: nv there it goes
[06:05] <Treaver> :O you too gogeta!
[06:06] <Treaver> What's the best IRC client for Ubuntu?
[06:06] <nonix4> traceroute doesn't seem to get past 3 hops @ London1.Level3.net
[06:06] <Zeptis> depends on how you define best
[06:06] <gogeta> Treaver: no big deal im shure it will be back up once the isp sees they have a node down
[06:06] <wan26> pidgin, xchat, irssi, many work well
[06:07] <baizon> im using xchat
[06:07] <crimsonmane> pidgin is not a good irc client because the window resizes as you type beyond the input box's visibility
[06:07] <wan26> i am using a few, xchat mainly
[06:07] <gogeta> crimsonmane: i run is fs so i never notced that
[06:08] <gogeta> it
[06:08] <Treaver> What is 7z, it says I need it for PlayOnLinux
[06:08] <Zeptis> 7z is a file compression manager
[06:08] <gogeta> Treaver: 7zip \
[06:08] <wan26> for 7 zip
[06:08] <Treaver> --7zip?
[06:08] <Zeptis> there's a plugin for the default roller
[06:08] <Treaver> How do I isntall that on linux? I thought we already had archive manager
[06:08] <gogeta> Treaver: its a bit better then rar etc
[06:08] <drag0nius> how would i make glassfish work on port 80 on ubuntu server?
[06:09] <gogeta> Treaver: if it needs it it should grab it
[06:09] <drag0nius> when i simply changed it to 80 in glassfish config i could not restart server
[06:09] <Zeptis> some dude on 7chan made it for delicious cake, originally. lol.
[06:12] <babolatpdtp1> hey all. on shutting down my computer i get "Could not get the system bus…Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory". Any idea how to solve this?
[06:12] <Zeptis> gogeta: earlier, you meant /etc/rc.d, correct?
[06:12] <daolin> sudo apt-get install p7zip
[06:13] <babolatpdtp1> is that to me?
[06:13] <Zeptis> no, babolatpdtp1, I think that was to Treaver.
[06:13] <babolatpdtp1> ah ok
[06:14] <Treaver> Thanks
[06:15] <Treaver> Installing Office 2010 in Ubuntu(: Yay
[06:15] <nonix4> Hmm, sites like http://www.internethealthreport.com/ agree with issue being somewhere in Level3.
[06:16] <babolatpdtp1> anyone have an idea? the directory /var/run/dbus does exist
[06:16] <babolatpdtp1> as does the file it was mentioning
[06:16] <Zeptis> Treaver: not Libreoffice?
[06:17] <Zeptis> I mean, Java is silly, but they're phasing it out
[06:17] <Treaver> I don't like LibreOffice. I'm installing Microsoft Office 2012 for OneNote -- School
[06:18] <Zeptis> :P but that doesn't respect your freedoms
[06:18] <Treaver> What do you mean?
[06:18] <Zeptis> Treaver please search for >>Stallmanquest.ogg
[06:19] <Treaver> What am I looking for
[06:19] <Zeptis> a video on youtube or some other server
[06:19] <wan26> material on the fsf as well
[06:19] <Treaver> which video
[06:19] <Zeptis> for lols, mostly: stallmanquest
[06:20] <Zeptis> excuse me, GNU/stallmanquest
[06:20] <histo> !ot
[06:20] <babolatpdtp1> while you're at it, be sure to join the church of emacs
[06:20] <Treaver> I have those freedoms(:
[06:21] <Zeptis> my pinkies are not ready
[06:21] <babolatpdtp1> hehe
[06:21] <Zeptis> I'm sorry that I don't know why it's giving you a dbus error on shutdown
[06:22] <babolatpdtp1> yeah i don't really get it..the file is clearly there so...
[06:22] <Zeptis> that's interesting; is there a script that you're running on shutdown?
[06:22] <daolin> init 0
[06:23] <Treaver> YES! IT works! Office 2010 in Linux
[06:23] <cfhowlett> Treaver: via wine??
[06:23] <Zeptis> 2C#4me
[06:23] <Treaver> Yes basically cfhowlett
[06:23] <floatingfeijoa> hi, does anyone know how to disable timeout on grub customizer?
[06:23] <histo> !ot | Treaver Zeptis
[06:23] <Walther> Treaver: Now that is something that you should definitely write about in a blog / Forums
[06:23] <babolatpdtp1> Zeptis: nope not that im aware of
[06:24] <Zeptis> sorry histo
[06:26] <Wizard> Good morning.
[06:26] <Zeptis> Trying to replace lightdm, but both /etc/rc.d is empty, and ubu doesn't use a ~/.xinitrc
[06:26] <Wizard> o_O
[06:26] <Zeptis> good very early morning, Wizard.
[06:26] <Zeptis> also, lol
[06:27] <Zeptis> what's calling lightdm so I can replace that line with whatever session manager I prefer?
[06:27] <Wizard> Zeptis: try dpkg-reconfigure your-dm
[06:27] <Wizard> /etc/init.d/lightdm
[06:28] <Wizard> But it depends on some configuration.
[06:28] <Zeptis> thanks for the second one
[06:28] <Zeptis> I'm not trying to go back to Level3 user, just a shell
[06:29] <rax-> if I used dist-upgrade && echo 'complete' it should wait until the upgrade has finished before doing the echo right?
[06:30] <Wizard> http://www.debianadmin.com/howto-boot-debian-in-text-mode-instead-of-graphical-mode-gui.html
[06:30] <Wizard> rax-: Right.
[06:30] <Wizard> But only if dist-upgrade returns 0.
[06:30] <rax-> hm ok
[06:31] <rax-> is it likely to not return 0 ?
[06:32] <Wizard> rax-: Probably if upgrade will go wrong.
[06:40] <histo> Zeptis: I told you how to bypass it earlier or you can service lightdm remove
[06:41] <Zeptis> sorry histo, lightdm actually decided to butt in and stopped my openbox
[06:42] <Zeptis> I'm editing /etc/X11/default-display-manager now
[06:42] <histo> Zeptis: Zeptis: you can sudo echo "manual" >> /etc/init/lightdm.override   to disable it from autostarting on boot.  Then to renable just sudo rm /etc/init.lightdm.override
[06:42] <histo> is the other way
[06:42] <hermanlf> how can I easily set ubuntu 12.04.1 to use a proxy?
[06:42] <Zeptis> it denied me access using sudo
[06:42] <Zeptis> but it's cool, I got it from here, thank you
[06:43] <wan26> settings>network
[06:44] <histo> hermanlf: desktop or server?
[06:44] <hermanlf> desktop
[06:44] <hermanlf> wan26's suggestion works.  Thanks a bunch.
[06:44] <histo> hermanlf: click on the network icon by the clock and edit connections
[06:44] <hermanlf> got it thanks
[06:45] <histo> Zeptis: what denied you access?
[06:45] <wan26> what was all that? just now?
[06:46] <brontosaurusrex> wan26, that was floodbots flooding the channel.
[06:46] <histo> wan26: what floodbot?
[06:47] <timfrost> histo: redirection operators  such as ">>" won't work with sudo  as the redirection is done by *your shell* before sudo is invoked.
[06:47] <wan26> yeah i wondered what was going on,
[06:48] <histo> wow two remote do-release-upgrades from 10.04 to 12.04 went okay over ssh without a hitch
[06:48] <histo> timfrost: oh yeah the modifying of lightdm.override
[06:48] <histo> timfrost: didn't understand what he was talking about
[06:48] <Guest66064> help required on Ubuntu 12.04 Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:432b] not working
[06:49] <cfhowlett> Guest66064: talk to me
[06:49] <brontosaurusrex> histo, ubuntu server?
[06:49] <histo> !broadcom | Guest66064
[06:49] <histo> brontosaurusrex: yeah two servers
[06:49] <Zeptis> as I said earlier, I found /etc/init.d/lightdm, so I'm just having that 'exec openbox-session'
[06:49] <Guest66064> cfhowlett  thanks.. can u tell me how to get this thing working.. i am new to ubuntu
[06:49] <brontosaurusrex> histo, cool, i have one lucid waiting, so no problems to 12.04 ?
[06:49] <cfhowlett> Guest66064: what installation method did you use?
[06:50] <calcfreak83>  /part
[06:50] <histo> brontosaurusrex: nope none seen just a few prompts along the way about obsolete packages
[06:50] <brontosaurusrex> right
[06:50] <Guest66064> lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4 works fine
[06:50] <riz0n> Hey guys, I have configured postfix and dovecot on ubuntu 12.04, but when I send a test message to the server, the mail goes to /var/mail/user ... what do I need to change to have it go to ~/Maildir ?
[06:50] <cfhowlett> Guest66064: what method did you use to install the broadcom driver?
[06:51] <histo> brontosaurusrex: the do-release-upgrade script also starts a secondary sshd listening on 1022 just incase.  I used screen also just so I didn't lose the tty along the way for a connection issue
[06:51] <garmet> hello! Do anyone know of a 'remote desktop' software that has decent performance? I've tried vnc and X11forwarding over ssh. Both had quite poor performance.
[06:52] <wan26> google has a cross platform plugin for their browser that accomplishes that garmet
[06:52] <brontosaurusrex> histo, any special url where those instructions are writen?
[06:52] <Guest66064> sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source this says it is alredy installed
[06:52] <histo> garmet: teamviewer works rather well
[06:52] <brontosaurusrex> gardar, nomachine perhaps
[06:52] <brontosaurusrex> i mean garmet
[06:52] <Guest66064> chflowlett   sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source but says that it is already installed
[06:52] <histo> brontosaurusrex: next time you ssh into your lucid box you will see them at the message prompt since 12.04.1 is out
[06:52] <Guest66064> i upgraded 12.04 thru cable net
[06:53] <brontosaurusrex> histo, i see
[06:53] <cfhowlett> Guest66064: personally, I went straight to the STA - No Internet Access method and had my wifi up and running in minutes.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[06:53] <histo> brontosaurusrex: it will notify that a new version is availible and sudo do-release-upgrade to install
[06:53] <histo> !upgrade | brontosaurusrex
[06:53] <histo> brontosaurusrex: the upgradnotes page has more info
[06:53] <Guest66064> cfhowlett  i am following the steps in it
[06:54] <Guest66064> cfhowlett    ~$ sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl says "wl" not found
[06:54] <cfhowlett> Guest66064: no you're not.  STA No Internet Access option means you're NOT using apt-get install.  Read the tutorial
[06:54] <brontosaurusrex> histo, running
[06:54] <garmet> wan26 , histo , brontosaurusrex I will look into these thx.
[06:55] <Guest66064> cfhowlett can i post the result somewhere for you to see
[06:55] <thufir_> I'm not sure which mailman I'm using, but it's ubuntu 12.04.  I'm not able to initialize a new list:  https://gist.github.com/3485273  newmail returns:  Illegal list name: mailman@dur    however, the hostname is the FQDN dur.bounceme.net so I'm not sure where mailman is getting that domain name.
[06:55] <cfhowlett> !paste|Guest66064
[07:00] <Binbo> hi guys, by default, is the NIC has been set with a limit below its full capacity?
[07:00] <brontosaurusrex> thufir_, perhaps : service --status-all
[07:00] <brontosaurusrex> thufir_, and go from there
[07:02] <thufir_> brontosaurusrex:  [ ? ]  mailman is the status.  but the problem is that it used "mailman@dur" and not<EMAIL_ADDRESS>.  It seems a somewhat common problem without apparent solution:  http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-August/052587.html
[07:03] <brontosaurusrex> thufir_, sorry, too dumb in mail stuff here, once or twice i set the postfix, but i forgot everything (on purpose) ...
[07:04] <thufir_> brontosaurusrex: I hear you.  It's finicky stuff, very old school.
[07:04] <ansi_> chhowlett i installed it through synaptics package manager
[07:05] <cfhowlett> ansi_: right.  Never worked for me which is why I adopted the STA no internet access method - which, fwiw, never failed me.
[07:05] <floatingfeijoa> Hi, how do I configure Burg?
[07:05] <brontosaurusrex> thufir_, i could't put that better :)
[07:05] <cfhowlett> ansi_: of course, ymmv
[07:05] <ansi_> cfhowlett can u send me the link
[07:05] <ansi_> again please
[07:06] <cfhowlett> !broadcom|ansi_
[07:06] <cfhowlett> ansi_  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[07:07] <robl> On the 12.04 installer, why can't I resize the windows 7 main partition?
[07:08] <ansi_> lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4 as step one gives this 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:432b] (rev 01)
[07:08] <ansi_> what next
[07:08] <Zeptis> try gedit, robl
[07:08] <robl> You mean the editor?
[07:09] <Zeptis> oh man, it's late; gparted.
[07:09] <Zeptis> sorry
[07:09] <robl> No prob.
[07:09] <robl> Is there some reason the graphical installer can't do that?
[07:09] <robl> Just not mature enough?
[07:09] <cfhowlett> ansi_: go to the STA no internet access section of the tutorial
[07:10] <ansi_>  it says      bcmwl-kernel-source is already the newest version
[07:10] <Zeptis> seriously, I'm an ubuntu noob. I sort of switched over from Mandrake.
[07:10] <Zeptis> I have no idea
[07:10] <daolin> robl：I resize that in windows by easeus
[07:10] <robl> easeus?
[07:10] <daolin> yes
[07:11] <Zeptis> better to use daolin's method unless you remember how much disk windows is actively using
[07:11] <robl> It's fresh windows 7 install.
[07:12] <robl> I need maybe 100 gigs on top of the default.
[07:12] <Zeptis> then the size is ~40GB then
[07:12] <ansi_> cfhowlett but i have internet access through wire
[07:12] <robl> Cool.  So 150GB should be plenty.
[07:12] <Zeptis> right on, robl
[07:12] <ansi_> so do i still need to do the steps for no internet access
[07:12] <robl> Cool.  Thanks guys.
[07:12] <Zeptis> best of luck with the dual boot
[07:12] <Cork> anyone know whats up with launchpad?
[07:13] <cfhowlett> ansi_: OK, well, best to ask someone else.  I use the no internet method because it ALWAYS worked for me.
[07:13] <Pitel_laptop> any idea why ubuntu.com is not reachable from here? tracepath shows it ends in ae-2-52.edge4.London1.Level3.net
[07:13] <robl> Is gparted on the graphical installer?
[07:13] <ansi_> cfhowlette   ansi@ubuntu:~$ sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl
[07:13] <ansi_> FATAL: Module wl not found.
[07:13] <Zeptis> I don't believe so
[07:13] <ansi_> cfhowlett  ansi@ubuntu:~$ sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl
[07:13] <ansi_> FATAL: Module wl not found.
[07:13] <robl> Ah.  Fastest way to boot gparted?
[07:14] <Zeptis> you can 'sudo apt-get gparted'
[07:14] <Cork> Pitel_laptop: its prob a datacenter thats down or something, ubuntu.com and launchpad.net is both down
[07:14] <ansi_> can anyone help me with STA broadcom driver installation on ubuntu 12.04
[07:15] <cfhowlett> ansi_: just for grins and giggles, did you try sudo modprobe wl ??
[07:16] <ansi_> yes i did..
[07:16] <Zeptis> ansi_"
[07:16] <Zeptis> do you have a way of getting a tar.gz onto the other computer?
[07:16] <ansi_> and it says
[07:16] <ansi_> sudo modprobe wl
[07:16] <ansi_> FATAL: Module wl not found.
[07:16] <ansi_> FATAL: Error running install command for wl
[07:16] <robl> gparted is on the graphical install
[07:16] <robl> (yay!)
[07:17] <Zeptis> because there's: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[07:17] <ansi_> Zeptis what should i do?
[07:17] <daolin> ansi_ :maybe you can install backtrack first,then update ubuntu12.04.1:  )
[07:17] <Zeptis> are you currently on the computer in question?
[07:17] <ansi_> command for it?
[07:18] <cfhowlett> Zeptis: yep. I used to do that one but then discovered that the STA No Internet tutorial was MUCH easier
[07:18] <cfhowlett> !backtrack|daolin
[07:18] <Cork> Pitel_laptop: looks like canonical has been moving its servers to a new datacenter https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus
[07:18] <daolin> sorry
[07:19] <Pitel_laptop> Cork: thanks
[07:19] <Zeptis> ansi_: x86 or amd64?
[07:19] <ansi_> x86
[07:20] <Zeptis> this should work: "wget http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/hybrid-portsrc_x86_32-v5_100_82_112.tar.gz"
[07:21] <ansi_> how do i run this
[07:21] <Zeptis> you untar it with file roller, then follow the readme to make it
[07:22] <cfhowlett> ansi_: instructions are here: http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt
[07:24] <Zeptis> whelp, just edited init.d to autostart openbox and got that .sh set up. Here's hoping X doesn't throw a fit and start foaming at the mouth or anything. Thanks for the help #ubuntu
[07:25] <hermanlf> there does not seem to be a place to enter username/pass for a proxy in "Network Proxy" settings.  How can I utilize my username/pass?
[07:28] <Zeptis> well, x complained about a broken pipe, but openbox started anyway.
[07:29] <brontosaurusrex> is there a command line option to convert xlsx (excel) doc to html ?
[07:30] <Zeptis> I'll help you look for one, bronto
[07:31] <Zeptis> xhtml or html with tables?
[07:31] <ssta_> brontosaurusrex: maybe something like: libreoffice --convert-to html foo.xlsx
[07:31] <brontosaurusrex> Zeptis, dont care, but its a huge file, both gnumeric and libre calc are tottaly scared
[07:32] <brontosaurusrex> ssta_, let me try ...
[07:32] <Kartagis> I'm in the process of purchasing a dedicated server, but I need some advice. can I ask here or does such a channel exist?
[07:33] <drag0nius> what is some nice web shell soft?
[07:33] <Super_Dog> Kartagis:  Why don't you try #ubuntu-server channle?
[07:33] <Kartagis> Super_Dog: thanks
[07:34] <Super_Dog> Ask over there and I'll tell you what I know...
[07:34] <Zeptis> how big are we talking?
[07:34] <antoine__> hellow
[07:34] <antoine__> I have a little probleme I don't know how can I creat a ftp server on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ?
[07:36] <timfrost> !ftpd | antoine__
[07:36] <Zeptis> I use Filezilla, Antoine__, but I'm largely ignorant, so I'm sure there's something better.
[07:36] <brontosaurusrex> antoine__, sudo apt-get install pure-ftpd or similar
[07:38] <Wizard> /o\
[07:38] <Amy4ka> íÿ^^
[07:38] <Zeptis> bronto: how large is that xmlx file?
[07:38] <Wizard> *Such* problems require IRC question?
[07:38] <Wizard> My God.
[07:38] <Wizard> World will end in December, definitely ;P
[07:38] <brontosaurusrex> Zeptis, hmm, not that huge, says 3.2 Megs
[07:39] <Zeptis> there are web apps for that, but I haven't found anything for linux that isn't attached to another *Office yet
[07:39] <brontosaurusrex> Zeptis, google docs refuses conversion
[07:40] <Zeptis> zamzar?
[07:40] <ssta_> must be *enormous*
[07:43] <floatingfeijoa> hi does anyone know how I can add new OS's to burg?
[07:43] <floatingfeijoa> (burg/grub2)
[07:44] <Zeptis> do you know the partition the OSes are on?
[07:44] <DaDaDOSPrompt> Is there a menu in pidgin for selecting a webcam and mic device?
[07:45] <floatingfeijoa> yes Zeptis
[07:47] <floatingfeijoa> does anyone know how I can add new OS's to burg/grub2?
[07:48] <ssta_> bbro
[07:49] <ssta_> brontosaurusrex: with a simple test xlsx I made, conversion to html by libreoffice seems to be not working properly.  Conversion to pdf works well though
[07:49] <W4sp> floatingfeijoa: burg doesn't come with Ubuntu and therefore burgh not supported here.
[07:49] <Zeptis> floatingfeijoa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[07:51] <floatingfeijoa> W4sp -_-
[07:52] <Zeptis> okay. So I swapped out lightdm with openbox, but now ALSA isn't working, even with force-reload. How am I being dumb?
[07:54] <Zeptis> alternative question: what's the searchable name of the ubuntu sound plugin?
[07:54] <knobo> is ubuntu.com down?
[07:54] <floatingfeijoa> knobo: nope
[07:55] <Zeptis> knobo: it's not for me, but users in Europe and other places seem to be having problems with it
[07:55] <Zeptis> Canonical is doing something and the traceroutes don't get past London, from what I've heard.
[07:55] <knobo> I'm probably in Europe or other place then...
[07:55] <knobo> Any us proxy I can use?
[07:56] <Zeptis> socks?
[07:56] <ferni> here in finland only one isp (sonera) has problems, with other ubuntu.com etc works fine
[07:56] <Jordan_U> floatingfeijoa: BURG only ever had one developer, and he stopped developing it two years ago (according to the commit history at https://code.launchpad.net/~bean123ch/burg/trunk ). GRUB2 has theming support as well.
[07:57] <knobo> hidemya...com worked :)
[07:58] <Daghdha> Hi, several times an hour (7 to 10 times) my bouncer loses connection with the internet. I think it may be related to a network problem on ubuntu, is there anyway to see if my network driver is crashing?
[07:58] <Wizard> Daghdha: dmesg.
[07:58] <Wizard> I would blame poor connection :>
[07:59] <Zeptis> Wizard: do you happen to know the name of the default ubuntu sound server?
[07:59] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: your network driver is *not* crashing
[08:00] <Wizard> Zeptis: PulseAudio.
[08:00] <Zeptis> thanks mate.
[08:00] <Wizard> And ubuntu.com works for me, in Europe.
[08:00] <Zeptis> >>pa_pid_file_create() failed
[08:00] <Zeptis> lol
[08:00] <Daghdha> gordonjcp: Then what is causing it?
[08:00] <Wizard> pa like PulseAudio? :P
[08:01] <Zeptis> that's the output if 'pulseaudio' in bash
[08:01] <Zeptis> time to config Jack or something, I guess XD
[08:01] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: flaky internet connection, most likely
[08:01] <Zeptis> might be your DNS, Daghdha
[08:01] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: where is it running?
[08:02] <Daghdha> I like to rule out things.
[08:02] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: you can safely rule out "crashing network drivers"
[08:02] <Daghdha> It's not DNS
[08:02] <Zeptis> what error does your browser return, Daghdha?
[08:03] <Daghdha> a bouncer is a program that relays IRC
[08:03] <rauf> ls
[08:03] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: where is it running?
[08:03] <Daghdha> The bouncer has timeouts, wich is very annoying for the channels i am in.
[08:03] <wan26> is it a free one
[08:03] <Zeptis> thanks for schooling me, Daghdha.
[08:04] <Daghdha> yw
[08:04] <marian2> hei guys. i need a good tutorial on how to admin your own VPS with UbuntuOS on it. any recommandation?
[08:05] <gordonjcp> marian2: it's the same as any other server
[08:05] <gordonjcp> the fact that it's on a VPS makes no practical difference
[08:06] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: what are you running your bouncer on?
[08:06] <Daghdha> ubuntu
[08:07] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: can you be more specific?
[08:07] <Daghdha> 12.04
[08:07] <gordonjcp> no, I mean is it on a remote server, on a box at home, how are you doing it?
[08:07] <Daghdha> Oh, ok. It is on my NAS in my LAN.
[08:08] <newbie|2> Hello all, used UBuntu a few years ago & I'm rusty, I was trying to install an new  program & messed up the code.  Now it wont install & giving me this error: E: Type 'ddeb' is not known on line 60 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:08] <newbie|2> E: The list of sources could not be read
[08:08] <newbie|2> I think ths ddeb is the issue, how do i clear that out?
[08:08] <Wizard> Change ddeb to deb ;)
[08:09] <newbie|2> how?
[08:09] <newbie|2> sorry a rusty newb
[08:09] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: okay, and you're connecting from outside your house?
[08:10] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: most likely a) your internet connection at home is flaky and dropping out, or b) your internet connection at home is picking up new DHCP leases more frequently than you'd like and dropping connections
[08:10] <Daghdha> No
[08:10] <gordonjcp> newbie|2: with an editor, similar to the one you changed it with in the first place?
[08:11] <newbie|2> I used the terminal (how do i send you private message like that?
[08:11] <Daghdha> I need to know, no offense, i can make these assumptions myself. But i need to make sure it's not the NAS
[08:11] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: there is no way your network driver is crashing
[08:11] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: it's unlikely the bouncer is crashing
[08:11] <gordonjcp> it's infinitely more likely that it's your internet connection
[08:12] <Daghdha> yes, it's not ubuntu. I get it.
[08:12]  * Daghdha keeps looking.
[08:13] <yinhai_> stty size
[08:14] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: have a look at the stats from your modem
[08:14] <yinhai_> I can't use the nicklist with tmux, spend 30 minuts!!!
[08:15] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: a home internet connection isn't going to be 100% solid for what you want
[08:16] <Zeptis> oh boy, now ALSA won't reload
[08:16] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: you really need something with a static IP address, at least
[08:18] <Daghdha> I have static IP. Bouncer been up without issue for months
[08:18] <gordonjcp> hm
[08:19] <gordonjcp> okay, so check the stats on your modem
[08:21] <Zeptis> okay, figured out what it's doing, at least. Pulseaudio isn't outputting to my headphones, but will output via built-in speakers.
[08:22] <Daghdha> It doesn't do much logging gordonjcp. I'd have to make it log to an snmp server
[08:23] <abdelghani> good morning
[08:24] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: does it have anything that shows how long it's been connected?
[08:24] <Daghdha> yes, that corresponds with the last reset of the modem 12 hours ago.
[08:25] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: and has your bouncer dropped since then?
[08:25] <Daghdha> about 60 times
[08:26] <Hemebond> Hi all. I need to install libsdl-dev, but libext-dev conflicts with libext-dev:i386 and so apt appears to want to remove all the related i386 packages. Any way to not do that? Pretty sure I need some of them for x86 games. I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 x86-64.
[08:26] <Daghdha> during those drops DNS lookups also fail, i see that in the logs of NAS. So it's either NAS not able to network or ISP down. So it's all assumptions from there.
[08:26] <newbie|2> guys I am trying to save a file but having permissions errors, how do I give myself full permission to edit & save files?  trying to edit sources.list
[08:26] <Daghdha> What i will do is connect with IRC client to same server. From this PC. And see if NAS and PC both time out.
[08:27] <gordonjcp> Daghdha: it really, really sounds like your internet connection is dropping
[08:27] <Daghdha> at the same time.
[08:27] <k1l_> newbie|2: run "sudo nano path/to/file" in terminal
[08:27] <gordonjcp> I like your idea of setting up a logging server
[08:27] <Daghdha> Yes, i know this sounds like it. But i need 100%
[08:27] <newbie|2> ok running that code will give me permissions?
[08:28] <k1l_> newbie|2: it opens an editor in the terminal, in which you can edit the file
[08:28] <k1l_> newbie|2: but are you sure, you want to edit the sources.list?
[08:29] <newbie|2> yes I mispelled ddeb instead of deb & i'm stuck
[08:29] <Zeptis> >>How are you gentlemen? All your base are belong to us.
[08:29] <Zeptis> >>(openbox recieved signal 11)
[08:29] <Zeptis> >>xinit connection to X server lost
[08:29] <Zeptis> funniest log file in a long time
[08:29] <gordonjcp> Zeptis: heh, what
[08:29] <k1l_> newbie|2: then run the command i mentioned. sort out the typo and safe
[08:30] <Zeptis> I got rid of lightdm and unity, and was playing with the sound
[08:30] <k1l_> newbie|2: but yoou shouldnt be fiddleing with these files imho
[08:30] <Zeptis> then X got angry at me because gnome-system-monitor tried to do something with a window manager when I'm not using one
[08:30] <Zeptis> I've never seen this
[08:31] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:31] <Zeptis> yo cristian
[08:31] <cristian_c> I've installed easy-deb with virtualenv
[08:31] <cristian_c> Zeptis, hi
[08:32] <k1l_> newbie|2: support only here in the channel
[08:32] <Zeptis> specifically: >>'_OB_WM_ACTION_UNDECORATE Unhandled action type' /n >>xinit connection lost
[08:32] <newbie|2> I just edited a file in terminal via sudo nano, how do i save & exit the file in termial now?
[08:32] <k1l_> newbie|2: crtl+o for saving, crtl+x for exit
[08:33] <cristian_c> I've seen what software are installed in the virtual environment (with yolk -l command) and I've not found easydeb in the output list. instead, I've found some applications that I've not installed inside the virtual environment, but outside. How is it possible this?
[08:34] <newbie|2> awesome checking it to see if it works now
[08:34] <cristian_c> What can be happened? Do you have any ideas?
[08:35] <Zeptis> I'm sorry, cristian, I've yet to use a VM.
[08:36] <cristian_c> Zeptis, thanks :) But I'm not using a virtualmachine, but a software called virtualenv
[08:36] <cristian_c> I'm using a software called virtualenv: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/python-virtualenv
[08:39] <Zeptis> Cristian: this person experienced something similar, maybe it could help? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2742980/virtualenv-yolk-problem
[08:40] <cristian_c> Zeptis, thanks for the link, I see immedately :)
[08:40] <cristian_c> Zeptis, thanks very very much ^_^
[08:40] <Zeptis> you're welcome
[08:42] <Zeptis> Does anyone know how to get PulseAudio to switch between built-in speakers and headphone jack in CLI? It's only working for my built-in speakers, at the moment.
[08:43] <cristian_c> Zeptis, I have a look about it :)
[08:43] <cristian_c> pulse-audio switching
[08:45] <user_> hi all. Having problems with T400 & ubuntu 12 64bits. Just installed, and everything seems to be working fine, until I have noticed "lags" occuring
[08:45] <Zeptis> thanks cristian, I'll try that
[08:45] <user_> every several seconds + if I ty to change display resolution the machine hangs. I have scanned the forums on the internet, and nothing seems
[08:46] <user_> to resolve the issue.
[08:46] <user_> Anyone?
[08:46] <Zeptis> user_, only when you change resolutions, or when you try to use anything larger than default?
[08:47] <user_> Zeptis: anything..
[08:47] <Zeptis> what GPU are you using?
[08:47] <cristian_c> Zeptis, I'm searching yet :D
[08:48] <user_> Zeptis: welp, how do I know that?
[08:48] <user_> :)
[08:49] <cristian_c> Zeptis, maybe you could use hda-verb
[08:50] <user_> Zep: oh, got ur question:  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[08:50] <user_> (lspci provided that line)
[08:50] <cristian_c> Zeptis, you should study this subject :)
[08:51] <Crataegus> Hello guys, Just wondering can I add another keyboard layout when on Ubuntu 12.04 live CD
[08:51] <Zeptis> okay, that's helpful; try 'grep video /etc/group', user_
[08:51] <Zeptis> I will read that documentation, thanks cristian
[08:52] <cristian_c> Tool to send commands (verbs) to HD-Audio codecs
[08:52] <cristian_c> hda-verb is a tiny program that allows you to access the HD-audio
[08:52] <cristian_c> codecs directly, allowing you to send commands (verbs) to them. For
[08:52] <cristian_c> hda-verb to work you must be running a linux kernel with CONFIG_SND_HDA_HWDEP option enabled.
[08:52] <user_> Zep: video:x:44:
[08:52] <Zeptis> user_: does that return anything?
[08:53] <Zeptis> derp
[08:53] <Zeptis> nvm
[08:53] <user_> Zep: yes, video:x:44:
[08:53] <Zeptis> groupadd -G video %youruser%
[08:54] <cristian_c> Zeptis, maybe with hda-verb you can write a script to switch them
[08:54] <cristian_c> :)
[08:55] <Zeptis> user_: as grep and /etc/proc pointed out, you're not part of the video usergroup, so adding yourself will allow your binaries access to hardware acceleration.
[08:56] <Zeptis> I don't know why Ubuntu doesn't do this by default
[08:56] <Zeptis> then again, Ubu does a lot of weird stuff
[08:57] <Kartagis> Zeptis: there are many, many programs that require adding yourself to some group. devs can't know all of these
[08:57] <Kartagis> my $ 0.02
[08:58] <user_> Zep: /proc/: thanks! going to try that one. how I do not have to reboot :)
[08:58] <Zeptis> but being part of the video group when there's so much graphics on the web seems silly
[08:58] <Zeptis> *not being
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> howto get rid of a square corrupted mouse pointer every cold boot on precise and ati grafix card?
[09:02] <knobo> when will www.ubuntu.com access from europe be fixed?
[09:03] <Zeptis> knobo: when Canonical gets their servers moved around, I would suppose.
[09:03] <gordonjcp> knobo: what's wrong with it?
[09:03] <gordonjcp> knobo: unhelpful, but wfm...
[09:03] <Zeptis> Do you want a SOCKS proxy?
[09:04] <Zeptis> Gordon: I don't know because I'm an Ameriburger, but traceroute for a number of Euro ISPs stops at London Tier3
[09:05] <gordonjcp> Zeptis: strange
[09:05] <user_> hehehe, welp had to reboot. machine hanged. and more severe problem: after running groupadd etc, i can not sudo anymore!
[09:05] <user_> it says I'm not in sudo group!
[09:05] <user_> what can be wrong?
[09:06] <user_> or how can I get root now  besides reinstallnig?
[09:06] <gordonjcp> user_: you may have borked your groups
[09:06] <somsip> user_: did you override groups instead of appending to them?
[09:06] <weer> hi,problem: i tried to recover my password of my (only one) account (as instructed here: http://naveenubuntu.blogspot.gr/2012/05/recover-login-password-of-ubuntu-1204.html )
[09:06] <gordonjcp> user_: boot in single-user and tread carefully ;-)
[09:06] <user_> gord: how do i boot single user?
[09:07] <weer> it was successful but whenever i try to log in the screen blanks for a sec and redirects me back to login screen
[09:07] <weer> what should i do?
[09:07] <user_> ok, going to try single user
[09:08] <vm> hi how to know which version the ubuntu is installed?
[09:08] <wan26> uname
[09:08] <gordonjcp> user_: if you look on the wiki there are pretty comprehensive instructions
[09:08] <hateball> vm: run "lsb_release -a"
[09:08] <gordonjcp> vm: cat /etc/issue
[09:09] <wan26> i wonder, how many ways there is to check lol
[09:09] <knobo> Zeptis: it's not so important, but thanx.
[09:09] <Stealth2k12> hi I am new to Linux, What is the best version of Linux to Install?
[09:09] <wan26> ubuntu
[09:09] <Zeptis> what is best in life, Stealth?
[09:09] <knobo> gordonjcp: it's unaccessable from some places.
[09:09] <Zeptis> this is what you must answer for yourself
[09:09] <somsip> Stealth2k12: here, Ubuntu would be the usuall recommendation
[09:09] <gordonjcp> Zeptis: traceroute shows "odd" results, actually browsing to it works just fine
[09:09] <vm> gordonjcp: yes
[09:09] <weer> ?
[09:10] <vm> hateball: doesnot work
[09:10] <gordonjcp> !best | Stealth2k12
[09:10] <vm> wan26: uname gives os version not ubuntu version
[09:10] <wan26> vm try settings>details
[09:10] <Zeptis> Ubuntu's answer is "ease of use", Stealth2k12. If you want something very customizable, it's really the wrong distro.
[09:11] <gordonjcp> most people don't really want "very customisable"
[09:11] <hateball> vm: you'd need to run it in a terminal
[09:11] <Zeptis> archlinux users
[09:11] <An_Ony_Moose> I removed a bunch of photos from my shotwell library but didn't move them into the file manager trash. Is it possible to do this now?
[09:11] <gordonjcp> Zeptis: I used to use Arch but I switched back to Ubuntu
[09:11] <gordonjcp> Zeptis: I prefer Arch's package management but I can't be bothered with all the hassle of installing
[09:11] <hateball> !ot
[09:12] <gordonjcp> Stealth2k12: you're asking in #ubuntu, so most people are likely to tell you Ubuntu
[09:13] <Zeptis> Stealth2k12: what sort of relationship do you want you and your Linux?
[09:14] <Zeptis> Ubuntu has really cool package management, a great driver base, development schedules that don't work on Africa-time, and a huge community to ask questions about
[09:14] <Stealth2k12> ok
[09:14] <Stealth2k12> I have learned some basics from using Backtrack
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> howto get rid of a square corrupted mouse pointer every cold boot on precise and ati grafix card?
[09:14] <Stealth2k12> isthat good or bad
[09:15] <t4nk951> IS there still an wifi issue in ubuntu 12.04 ??
[09:15] <wan26> Stealth2k12 was backtrack your first experience using linux?
[09:15] <t4nk951> Bcoz  i m using 10.04 and there is wifi issue in 10.04 so I m thinking of upgrading it .
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> !ot | wan26
[09:16] <weer> sorry to interfere but im facing a big problem,is there something i can do for my situation?
[09:16] <wan26> i was going to then compare it to ubuntu lotus... then end it there. sorry.
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> t4nk951: its highly recommended you upgrade to precise 12.04.1
[09:16] <Zeptis> Stealth: backtrack has a very minimal UI compared to the rather heavy Unity/Lightdm/Nautilus used by Ubu. Ubu is for a desktop computer experience, generally.
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> weer: reask your question once in a while in channel mate
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> t4nk951: even better, clean install precise ; )
[09:18] <t4nk951> ok
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> !unity | t4nk951
[09:19] <An_Ony_Moose> !notunity > An_Ony_Moose
[09:21] <t4nk951> ok
[09:21] <hsn> !radeon
[09:21] <t4nk951> lotuspsychje : But what about wifi issue on it ??
[09:21] <rusty149> hi, I can't login to Ubuntu using my main account. It accepts password then asks again in a loop. I can login to guest account though. Any Ideas?
[09:22] <wan26> t4nk951, simply upgrading sometimes solves wifi issues, but its best to search your wifi model in the ubuntu forums etc
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> t4nk951: what about you provide us more info about your problem you have on 10.04? card brand? wpa security?
[09:22] <notwo> the applicatiuons I install with wine, how can I ran them later?
[09:23] <An_Ony_Moose> notwo: usually they appear in the Applications menu and/or on the desktop.
[09:23] <An_Ony_Moose> notwo: if they don't you'll have to run them from a terminal as far as I know
[09:23] <Zeptis> !notunity > Zeptis
[09:24] <notwo> aha
[09:25] <wan26> notwo the files may be in your home folder under .wine
[09:25] <notwo> ok I will check
[09:27] <rusty149> hi, I can't login to Ubuntu using my main account. It accepts password then asks again in a loop. I can login to guest account though. Any Ideas?
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> rusty149:did you forget the old password?
[09:28] <An_Ony_Moose> rusty149: are you typing it right? Capslock?
[09:28] <rusty149> no, it accepts it then reloads the lightdm login screen. I tried incorrect pass and that displays red text as normal. I can login to tty1
[09:29] <An_Ony_Moose> rusty149: aaah... my dad had that issue too. it had something to do with gconf. Try renaming ~/.gconf to ~/.gconf-backup then try logging in again
[09:30] <carsten_db> I have a set of 3D video files in mkv format (SBS). I'm using xbmcbuntu on a mini-computer that is a dedicated mediacenter box. Most of the files play fine under xbmc. however, one of them seems to be broken: when playing, it only shows a flashing green screen. The audio however works flawlessly, plus the file plays fine under with vlc under archlinux on my notebook. what can I do to fix this?
[09:31] <carsten_db> side remark: playing the video causes xbmc to crash - I cannot stop the video, and even killing xbmc leaves the machine in a non-responsive state. I therefore think it might be a graphics-driver issue.
[09:31] <gordonjcp> carsten_db: only *one* file out of a set?
[09:31] <rusty149> An_Ony_Moose: Thanks. I have solved it now. ~/.Xauthority was owned by root instead of me. Weird
[09:32] <Zeptis> have you tried using it in VLC on Ubu, carsten?
[09:32] <gordonjcp> it's probably a corrupt file then
[09:32] <carsten_db> they are not a set in a sense that they belong together, but of the files I own, only one produce this behaviour.
[09:32] <_037> whois _037
[09:32] <carsten_db> gordonjcp: but why does it play fine with vlc on my notebook?
[09:33] <carsten_db> gordonjcp: I even tried vlc under ubuntu on the mediacenter box - crash. but mplayer works... *confused*
[09:33] <carsten_db> gordonjcp: thinking that copying the file over might have corrupted it, i compared md5sums - identical
[09:34] <rusty149> carsten_db: you can try playing the file with vlc from terminal. It may output a message that it is able to overcome issue.
[09:34] <An_Ony_Moose> rusty149: odd. well good thing you solved it
[09:35] <carsten_db> rusty149: thanks, I'll try that