[05:22] <ActionParsnip> monty_hall: if you run gnome-schedule with gksudo  the thing will run as root
[05:22] <stenoknight> mschulze: no worries. Just thought someone might have used it before. A screencasting program without the ability to record audio is kind of, um... Not terribly useful? I know it's possible to make it work. I just don't know what I need to fiddle with.
[05:22] <Agu10> feanor2, what for?
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: yes but if they use this WPF stuff, you can search for that cant you. think about it
[05:22] <Agu10> i just dont want to use commands ever. is that possible?
[05:22] <Agu10> while still being able to set up stuff right
[05:22] <feanor2> Agu10, no
[05:22] <noonian> Agu10, yes
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: how do you mean 'commands'?
[05:23] <Agu10> ActionParsnip, there are few programs using wpf actually...
[05:23] <monty_hall> ActionParsnip: thanks
[05:23] <Agu10> ActionParsnip, command line commands
[05:23] <sam-_-> Agu10, that's because it was doomed from the beginning
[05:23] <Agu10> sam-_-, im not talking about mono. about wine
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: a lot of linux's power is in command line. it pays to learn it
[05:23] <noonian> Agu10, most command line programs have an optional gui frontend
[05:24] <Agu10> noonian, really most of them??
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: a lot has been put in pretty guis so users can keep their hands glued to the mouse but as you use the OS you will see how slow the guis are and you can do most with a very simple command or 2
[05:24] <Agu10> what I dislike is those commands are old, and they don't have consistent conventions
[05:24] <PeterFabinskiMbl>
[05:24] <rs0832> Agu10: ActionParsnip is right. That is true for all operating systems. But linux is made to be powerful so you have to know then
[05:24] <Agu10> ActionParsnip, commands require you to learn them
[05:25] <sam-_-> Agu10, lol what do you mean by old?
[05:25] <noonian> Agu10, also there is a tendency to tell people how to do something using commands because it is much faster than describing which menus to navigate through and buttons to click
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: not really, surely using a development tool like you have learned needs you to learn them too..
[05:25] <Agu10> sam-_-, they are VERY old... they are no real rules so that you know which parameter to use on all of them
[05:25] <Agu10> they change from command to command
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: you will learn them just as you learned windows and the other stuff I'm sure you use
[05:26] <Agu10> ActionParsnip, actually, I just guess for most GUIs... i dont need to learn them
[05:26] <Agu10> I end up learning them if I use them a lot
[05:26] <noonian> Agu10, commands are just the names of installed pieces of software. some are scripts and some are actual binary files. So the commands available is dependent on the software installed
[05:26] <rs0832> Agu10: typing <command> -h should tell you how to use a command
[05:26] <Agu10> I guess keyboard shortcuts for GUIs are faster than command line commands, right?
[05:26] <noonian> Agu10, and man <comand> will give you info also
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: exactly, guis exist in linux / ubuntu but they are terribly slow compared to their command line counterparts
[05:27] <Agu10> right but commands are so old that you have to read separate docs
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: depends on what they do etc, you can form complex scripts in shell script then have a shortcut launch it
[05:27] <Agu10> like -h or man
[05:27] <Agu10> whereas on GUIs you automatically have the info in the tooltip
[05:27] <noonian> Agu10, for instance it is easy to move all files from a directory with a specific word in the name to a difference one with one command, with a gui you need to click on each file.
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: as you use them you dont use them, there are also helps online which give example commands
[05:28] <rs0832> Agu10: you don't have to learn everything.. just important, frequently used ones
[05:28] <eroick> I'm trying to get a script to run at startup, but it won't. I've put it into /etc/init.d and made it +x, then ran update-rc.d scriptname defaults, but it does not run...
[05:28] <feanor2> how to sort the text file?
[05:28] <Agu10> noonian, actually, with a gui you can just type them and use keyboard shortcuts
[05:28] <feanor2> tried to use kate but it seemingly cannot
[05:28] <Cha0s> ikonia
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: until you have used linux as long as you have used windows so it is a fair comparison, you cant really speculate
[05:29] <Agu10> they are old since documentation is separated from the program and it's hard to access
[05:29] <chris|linux> ok I can't find anything on reinstall grub and pointers on were to look
[05:29] <sam-_-> eroick, is the link to the script in /etc/rc2.d/ ?
[05:29] <noonian> Agu10, how would you select all files with the word "old" in the title inside a directory using a gui without clicking the files?
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: the man pages are part of the installation of the package and are accessed by the common command:: man
[05:29] <rs0832> Agu10: most linux programs come with regularly updated documentation
[05:30] <Agu10> ActionParsnip, still mac OSX is easier than linux, and I have used osx really short time...
[05:30] <eroick> sam-_-: yes, as S80scriptname
[05:30] <feanor2> File/Select files/*old* lol
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: i have used both windows and linux for a very long time and  administered both on LANs, I find Linux waaay easier and more automatable
[05:30] <noonian> Agu10, mac osx has the same default command line interface; bash.
[05:30] <Agu10> noonian, you search for old, and then with arrow keys I guess
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: the only way to get windows even close is to use powershell
[05:31] <feanor2> how to sort a file in Kate or some other way?
[05:31] <eroick> sam-_-: and the script works fine if I execute the symlink
[05:31] <Agu10> noonian, but you dont really need it
[05:31] <bucky> eroick, where is the script located?
[05:31] <eroick> bucky: /etc/init.d/
[05:31] <Agu10> yes, im not saying commands are bad
[05:31] <PeterFabinskiMbl> Agu10, ActionParsnip , go argue somewhere
[05:31] <Agu10> commands are bad as they are now
[05:32] <Agu10> they're old and haven't been updated to latest tech
[05:32] <PeterFabinskiMbl> else
[05:32] <DarkStar> hey guys
[05:32] <Agu10> so that when you type a command a dropdown menu appears with all options
[05:32] <Agu10> and info on what each one does...
[05:32] <rs0832> Agu10: Also, debugging and fixing of errors is much easier if you use CLI because it gives you recognizable errors. A GUI just doesnt open
[05:32] <sam-_-> eroick, it should run. did you use /etc/init.d/skeleton?
[05:32] <PeterFabinskiMbl> DarkStar, hi
[05:32] <DarkStar> i got a problem can anyone help
[05:32] <rs0832> DarkStar: Sure
[05:32] <skraito> what problem dark ?
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar: wassup?
[05:32] <Agu10> rs0832, it could as well send a message box saying what the error is...
[05:32] <eroick> sam-_-: nope... i just had a simple script.
[05:33] <rs0832> DarkStar: Ask and if someone knows a solution, they will :)
[05:33] <izinucs> skraito: a shortened nick doesn't get highlighted
[05:33] <rs0832> Agu10: not always
[05:33] <noonian> Agu10, what if the entire window manager is down?
[05:33] <PeterFabinskiMbl> DarkStar, what problem
[05:33] <DarkStar> when i am playing any vid on youtube i don't get the sound
[05:33] <Agu10> rs0832, also, you could make every program open a command line if they have an error
[05:33] <feanor2> how to sort a file in Kate or some other way?
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar: do you get sound elsewhere?
[05:33] <rs0832> Agu10: brasero, nautilus, ubuntu software center, etc.. dont
[05:33] <sam-_-> eroick, and if you type runlevel it is 2?
[05:33] <Agu10> rs0832, they were badly engineered?
[05:33] <rs0832> Agu10: not exactly
[05:34] <DarkStar> when i play music files yes but not with internet vids
[05:34] <Agu10> noonian, what if the command line is down?
[05:34] <noonian> Agu10, then so is the gui :P
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar: can you use: http://pastie.org  to give the output of:  dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep swf; dpkg -l | grep gnash; lsb_release -a
[05:34] <DarkStar> ok
[05:34] <Agu10> noonian, no
[05:34] <rs0832> Agu10: the command line doesnt work means nothing else works:)
[05:34] <Agu10> xD
[05:34] <Agu10> maybe
[05:34] <monty_hall> in the ubuntu crontab what is the "#" (first field) used for.  BSD doesn't have one.
[05:34] <eroick> sam-_-: N 2
[05:34] <PeterFabinskiMbl> DarkStar, is it just youtube or other sites
[05:34] <Agu10> but still you will use commands just in case the window manager is down?
[05:35] <DarkStar> didn't tried
[05:35] <rs0832> Agu10: yes
[05:35] <Agu10> that's mad
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: tel you what, you use what you use, we'll use what we use and we'll all be happy :)
[05:35] <noonian> Agu10, all the software to keep the os running has to reason to have a graphics, all that does is slow down the computer and introduce added complexity that causes more bugs, errors, and crashes
[05:35] <PeterFabinskiMbl> maybe its youtube. try a different music site
[05:35] <noonian> Agu10, which is why mac, linux, and windows (for the most part) keep the gui seperate from the os
[05:35] <monty_hall> nm :P
[05:36] <noonian> Agu10, the mac operating system is open source btw, its called darwin. Its the GUI that you are paying for.
[05:36] <Agu10> ok but then why doesn't command lines have dropdowns to know what each command does?
[05:36] <Agu10> and all its options
[05:36] <sam-_-> eroick,  it should run. but maybe i'm wrong. try using the skeleton and paste your script in there
[05:36] <rs0832> Agu10: it does
[05:36] <izinucs> Agu10: that's what man pages are for
[05:36] <noonian> Agu10, they have files describing what they do
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: because the dropdown would be massive
[05:36] <fms6468> Question: How can I restart directly into terminal. I have 10.10 installed.
[05:36] <rs0832> Agu10: just type <command> -h
[05:36] <dhanijeremy> need help. all my media files audio & video plays too fast like it is being fast forward, it was working perfectly before & i get no sound.
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: its not practical at all
[05:37] <rs0832> Agu10: or man <command>
[05:37] <izinucs> Agu10: or man cp
[05:37] <Agu10> lol typing -h or man is too slow
[05:37] <feanor2> how to sort a file in Kate or some other way?
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: read: man mencoder   it's online if you dont have linux, it's massive
[05:37] <Agu10> it meants you have to first open another terminal and read all the docs
[05:37] <DarkStar> here is the output http://pastie.org/1389071
[05:37] <noonian> Agu10, a dropdown is not enough space to tell you how to use a non trivial piece of software
[05:37] <sam-_-> eroick, /etc/init.d/README the readme seems to emphasize my suspicion
[05:37] <Agu10> whereas you could just have a dropdown and choose with arrow keys which command to choose
[05:38] <Agu10> noonian, most options are trivially explained...
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: its not practical
[05:38] <Agu10> right?
[05:38] <izinucs> Agu10: you obviously don't remember the pure MS Dos days.. no gui.. just dos.. and a reference manual you *might* have gotten when you bought that $2500 computer with 16 megs of ram...
[05:38] <Agu10> or at least they should be trivial to use
[05:38] <cyphase> what the best way to encrypt on-the-fly and backup files via ssh?
[05:38] <Agu10> izinucs, i wasnt born then...
[05:38] <noonian> Agu10, also, how do you choose a drop down option from within a script?
[05:39] <phanindraramesh> what is the software for mp3 cutter in ubuntu
[05:39] <izinucs> Agu10: my point exactly
[05:39] <rs0832> Agu10: yes but you would have to pres the up/down key hundreds of times to reach a script
[05:39] <PeterFabinskiMbl> how do i password protect a folder, if possible?
[05:39] <DarkStar> the output of dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep swf; dpkg -l | grep gnash; lsb_release -a is this http://pastie.org/1389071
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: my terminal has a possible 2265 commands, then there are all the options. Do you SERIOUSLY think a drop down is practical
[05:39] <Agu10> noonian, you get that drop down in the IDE / script editor
[05:39] <feanor2> how to SORT a file in Kate or some other way?
[05:39] <Agu10> rs0832, no. you just start typing it...
[05:39] <monty_hall> any recommendation to periodically backup user directories?  I current have a cron task that just tar's directories.  Does ubuntu have anything like this?
[05:40] <Agu10> also, they should be object oriented then...
[05:40] <Agu10> and with proper naming
[05:40] <monty_hall> .. that's canned or some bin for this specific purpose.
[05:40] <rs0832> Agu10: autocomplete?
[05:40] <Agu10> files.open myfile.txt
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar: sudo apt-get --purge remove adobe-flashplugin; sudo dpkg -P flashplugin-installer; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:40] <feanor2> monty_hall, technically, but it's very primitive
[05:40] <Agu10> :P
[05:40] <noonian> Agu10, object oriented has no meaning in this context.
[05:40] <Agu10> rs0832, autocomplete with a dropdown
[05:40] <sam-_-> Agu10, object orientation doesn't solve everything.
[05:40] <Agu10> noonian, why not?
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: whynot just use cat or less to open a text file
[05:40] <feanor2> !OT
[05:40] <sam-_-> noonian, actually it does
[05:40] <Agu10> object oriented I mean organized in categories, etc
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: this is all offtopic for this channel
[05:41] <Agu10> am i not talking about ubuntu?
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: it will be chatted about ni #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:41] <izinucs> ActionParsnip: pastie.org has a *horrible* color scheme.. very hard to read.. pastebin.com works better for me.
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: this is support ONLY
[05:41] <sam-_-> noonian, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_PowerShell
[05:41] <Agu10> ok
[05:41] <rs0832> Agu10: actually more about cli and GUI:)
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> izinucs: you can change the scheme with the drop down
[05:42] <rs0832> Agu10: i agree.. may be this is better for #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:42] <dhanijeremy> HELP!: all my media files audio & video plays too fast like it is being fast forward, it was working perfectly before & i get no sound. can someone email me the solution?
[05:42] <izinucs> ActionParsnip: ah.. ok.. much better.. the default is hard on my old eyes
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> izinucs: put it on brilliance black and you have no issue :)
[05:43] <sam-_-> dhanijeremy, why email?
[05:43] <sam-_-> dhanijeremy, what media player are you using?
[05:43] <EnigmaticCoder> good night all
[05:43] <izinucs> ActionParsnip: no that is not as easy as "Clean"..
[05:43] <dhanijeremy> i'm going out now... working...
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> izinucs: i use it because every other user uses pastebin.com plus pastie doesnt have all the stuff on the left showing other users pastes. Who cares
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> izinucs: do you really need to see the last few posts by some random punters?
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> izinucs: not clean at all
[05:44] <noonian> sam-_-, maybe I am mistaking his argument?
[05:44] <rs0832> Is there any reason why ubuntu (brasero) does not let me burn the ubuntu 10.10 desktop iso  to a 700 mb cd? (Error- Please replace the disc with a supported one)
[05:44] <sam-_-> noonian, maybe. he was on a rant anyway.
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> rs0832: did you MD5 test the ISO?
[05:44] <dhanijeremy> sam my email is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:44] <rs0832> ActionParsnip: yep
[05:44] <sam-_-> noonian, what i wanted to say is that objectorientation in  a shell can make sense
[05:44] <DarkStar> ActionParsnip,  still the sound isn't working
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> rs0832: i recommend gnomebaker. I have nothing but grief with brasero
[05:45] <sam-_-> noonian, like in the PowerShell
[05:45] <feanor2> how to SORT a file in Kate or some other way?
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar: well now you have the right plugin at least
[05:45] <izinucs> ActionParsnip: not sure what you mean by "last few .. random punters" but for just readability sake.. clean works  better for me.. now if it was a black background with green lettering that would sufice.
[05:45] <rs0832> ActionParsnip: k .. will try, thanks:)
[05:45] <izinucs> rs0832: the other option is k3b.. it's a kde app but will run fine on gnome.
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> izinucs: make a paste on pastebin.com then read the left colomn, look at all that pointless stuff
[05:46] <sam-_-> dhanijeremy, come back into irc when your done working. then we will help
[05:46] <rs0832> izinucs: ok thanks :)
[05:46] <dhanijeremy> ok then
[05:46] <noonian> sam-_-, I see your point, but PowerShell seems like a domain specific programming language in its own right. I thought he was talking about a menu feature at an application level
[05:46] <dhanijeremy> thanks
[05:46] <izinucs> ActionParsnip: yea but I only pay attention to what's relevant.. conditioning to ignoring google adds on searches etc.
[05:46] <sam-_-> noonian, ok. i'm tired. forgive me :-)
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> izinucs: sure but the page isnt clean, pastie's is
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204022    or     http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1493233
[05:47] <noonian> sam-_-, me too thanks for the insight :)
[05:47] <guiness> are there any cutting edge devs in the linux world right now ??
[05:47] <izinucs> ActionParsnip: you are right.. but the default color scheme isn't for me anyway.. glad to see that I can change it.
[05:47] <sam-_-> guiness, depends on how you define cutting edge
[05:47] <holoseen> Is it normal that a boot from a usb flash startup drive (2GB) netbook remix is going to be much slower than a spinning platter hd?
[05:47] <noonian> guiness, yes but maybe not in the chat :P
[05:48] <izinucs> guiness: the answer is "of course".......
[05:48] <guiness> i was hoping for company names
[05:48] <sam-_-> guiness, hint !Microsoft
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> izinucs: thats for the user to decide and you can change :)
[05:49] <guiness> sam- in the linux world??
[05:49] <guiness> if that is true then why does linux video perf. fall soo short of windows
[05:49] <izinucs> ActionParsnip: of course. and you pointed me in the right direction.. I didn't realize you could change the color scheme.. :)
[05:49] <sam-_-> guiness, that actually depends on the graphics card you have
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> izinucs: no worries, every day is a school day :)
[05:50] <guiness> i have a gateway nv79 book
[05:50] <sam-_-> guiness, nvidia
[05:50] <sam-_-> guiness, ?
[05:51] <guiness> umm i think intel graphics
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> guiness: lspci | grep -i vga   will tell you
[05:51] <noonian> in a terminal
[05:51] <sam-_-> guiness, so it should perform pretty well in linux
[05:52] <guiness> yeah intel
[05:52] <guiness> web video totally sucks
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> guiness: which model!?
[05:52] <sam-_-> ActionParsnip, intel hd
[05:52] <noonian> guiness, that might be the version of flash you have installed if it is flash video
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> guiness: poor config dude, a biot of config and it'll fly
[05:53] <guiness> i have the latest beta
[05:53] <noonian> guiness, if you are using the free version you might try the non-free version
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> guiness: what is the output of:  lsb_release -c
[05:53] <sam-_-> guiness, yeah. that's adobes fault
[05:54] <guiness> non free version
[05:54] <guiness> ??
[05:54] <eroick> sam-_-: changed it to use skeleton, still no dice.
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> guiness: what is the output of:  lsb_release -c   please
[05:55] <sam-_-> guiness, but still you should be able to play 1080p reasonably well. it works for me. i got intel hd too
[05:55] <guiness> im on 10.04
[05:55] <guiness> it is lucid
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> guiness: some xorg.conf files which should help: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+question/133717
[05:55] <sam-_-> eroick, then i'm afraid i can't help
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> guiness: Lucid is released so isn't the "latest beta", maverick has been released since
[05:56] <guiness> actionparsnip  res is not my issue
[05:56] <guiness> web video
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> guiness: and natty is coming soon in april
[05:57] <eroick> sam-_-: yeah, its pretty odd. i can even use 'service scriptname start' and start it
[05:57] <guiness> i cant install 10.10
[05:57] <sam-_-> ActionParsnip, i think he meant flash beta
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> guiness: the option may make the flash run a little nicer
[05:57] <izinucs> sam-_-: ActionParsnip perhaps flash squared for 64 bit
[05:57] <guiness> ok thanx
[05:58] <noonian> how can you tell what version of flash is installed?
[05:58] <sam-_-> izinucs, i'm running 32-bit because of flash :-)
[05:58] <newbie> I tried installing ubuntu restricted extras but the download failed
[05:58] <sam-_-> noonian. about:plugins in your browser
[05:58] <izinucs> sam-_-: flash squared works pretty well.. for most everything on 64 bit..
[05:58] <newbie> subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 128
[05:58] <SC-C> how to change desktop login manager from GDM to KDM
[05:58] <newbie> I'm not sure what to do
[05:59] <sam-_-> izinucs, ok. good to know
[05:59] <izinucs> SC-C: on the screen where you login there should be a menu option to do that..
[05:59] <noonian> sam-_-, thanks
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> izinucs: are you using the 64bit adobe plugin?
[05:59] <izinucs> ActionParsnip: I am on my desktop
[05:59] <SC-M> that's changing the DE
[05:59] <SC-M> i mean, the Login Screen
[05:59] <newbie>  I tried installing ubuntu restricted extras but the download failed, subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 128
[06:01] <Shawn146> hello
[06:01] <sam-_-> SC-M sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm should do the trick
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> SC-M: you can change the wallpaper and colour of the login screen currently
[06:02] <sam-_-> newbie, sudo apt-get clear then try again
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> SC-M: http://maketecheasier.com/change-login-and-boot-screen-in-ubuntu-lucid/2010/05/13
[06:03] <newbie> sam-_-:  i should type "sudo apt-get clear" into the terminal?
[06:04] <CensoredBiscuit> newbie yes
[06:04] <Shawn146> hey why are there programs being removed from ubuntu 9.10 karmic koala?
[06:04] <Shawn146> like compiz fusion extras
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> newbie: try: http://pastie.org/1389101
[06:04] <CensoredBiscuit> shawn146 what are you talking about
[06:05] <newbie> ActionParsnip: Type all those in?
[06:05] <Shawn146> the LTS
[06:05] <feanor2> how to SORT a file in Kate or some other way??
[06:05] <Shawn146> upgrade for ubuntu
[06:05] <Shawn146> 10.4
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> !info compiz-fusion-plugins-extra | Shawn146
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> newbie: one after the other, yes
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> Shawn146: is that what you meant?
[06:05] <sam-_-> feanor2, cat <filename> |sort
[06:05] <Shawn146> i know what it is -_-
[06:06] <Shawn146> yes it is
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> Shawn146: it's in the universe repo.
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> Shawn146: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[06:06] <Shawn146> ...
[06:06] <Shawn146> thats not what i am talking about
[06:07] <Shawn146> when i upgraded from my 9.10, it said some packages were obselete
[06:07] <Shawn146> why?
[06:07] <Shawn146> a lot fo them i use
[06:07] <Shawn146> like grub
[06:07] <Shawn146> *of
[06:07] <FloodBot1> Shawn146: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:07] <Shawn146> oh ok..
[06:07] <sam-_-> Shawn146 maybe the name changed. imho i'm not sad for compiz
[06:08] <Shawn146> is compiz done with?
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> Shawn146: karmic and such use grub2
[06:08] <Shawn146> yea
[06:08] <izinucs> Shawn146: it will be with 11.04
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> Shawn146: no, compiz is still in lucid and onwards
[06:08] <sam-_-> unfortunately not i guess.
[06:09] <Shawn146> oh
[06:09] <Shawn146> when does thay come out?
[06:09] <Shawn146> *that
[06:09] <sam-_-> but they are trying to replace it with unity
[06:09] <sam-_-> !natty
[06:09] <gigaclon> !sliverlight
[06:09] <izinucs> Shawn146: I don't think unity uses compiz.. 11.04 comes out in 2011 april.. like the version number says :)
[06:09] <Shawn146> production?
[06:09] <gigaclon> any way to run sliverlight in ubuntu?
[06:09] <Shawn146> oh just notice date
[06:10] <izinucs> gigaclon: it's called moonlight
[06:10] <noonian> gigaclon, not to my knowledge :(
[06:10] <Shawn146> what does palm one do?
[06:10] <Shawn146> I ahve a palm os 4 device
[06:10] <sam-_-> gigaclon, there in moonlight.
[06:10] <sam-_-> gigaclon, but it's not as mature as silverligth
[06:11] <rs0832> giglaclon: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Firefox-Extensions/Novel-Moonlight-37840.shtml
[06:11] <noonian> izinucs, wow, does that work with netflicks?
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> Shawn146: unity uses mutter right now but it's planned to use compiz in natty
[06:11] <sam-_-> noonian, it doesn't to my knowledge
[06:11] <Shawn146> oh
[06:11] <izinucs> noonian: netflicks doesn't support linux even though they use linux on the backend to do business.
[06:11] <newbie> ActionParsnip: hey after entering line 8 I get an error message:sudo: aptitude: command not found
[06:11] <gigaclon> netflixs is the only reason to do it
[06:11] <Shawn146> \are there still cool things in ubuntu?
[06:11] <gigaclon> yeah
[06:12] <noonian> izinucs, yeah its lame, one of the only things missing from my desktop
[06:12] <izinucs> _______________: quit
[06:12] <_______________> ?
[06:12] <_______________> I am not doing that
[06:12] <_______________> That is another line.
[06:12] <izinucs> :/
[06:13] <feanor2> !nick
[06:13] <_l30_> hahaha :P
[06:13] <_l30_> sorry guys
[06:13] <noonian> newbie, can you type "echo $PATH" into a terminal real quick please?
[06:13] <feanor2> how to SORT a file in Kate editor or some other way?? ffs
[06:14] <Diamondcite> Sort a text file?
[06:14] <feanor2> yes
[06:14] <sam-_-> feanor2 what is wrong with cat <file> |sort
[06:14] <newbie> noonian: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[06:14] <izinucs> feanor2: you might also ask in #kubuntu or #linux or #kde
[06:14] <Diamondcite> I don't think kate has such an ability..
[06:14] <feanor2> lol it's damned filterm i need inplace sort
[06:15] <Diamondcite> feanor2: Please consider the sort command or open it with openoffice/libreoffice.
[06:15] <Diamondcite> calc takes just about anything as spreadsheet :)
[06:15] <noonian> newbie, oh maybe aptitude just isnt installed, I thought it was by default but I dont even have it installed
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> newbie: just change it for apt-get   then, it'll still work
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> noonian:  aptitude is not installed by default any more i think.
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: was just using marco's command lump he likes to throw around ;)
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> actually is synaptic even installed by default any more? I was thinking it was getting removed also.
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: dont think so, i think its all software centre now
[06:18] <newbie> ActionParsnip: What should it so just type that in(" apt-get")
[06:18] <newbie> ?
[06:18] <sam-_-> that's said because software centre sucks
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> newbie: just replace any occurrences of aptitude with apt-get
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> software center needs some sort of 'tag' feature. its way too hard to find stuff i know thats in there. :)
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: it needs to run faster too, waaay to slow for my liking
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> its nice how it can be installing stuff then i can be selecting/searching for other things to install..
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> but i fguess if they add too many features. it will get to 'complex' :)
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: yeah i like that, add stuff to install whicle other stuff is installing :0
[06:23] <sam-_-> either way it sucks currently
[06:23] <challapradyumna> hii
[06:23]  * sam-_- needs to sleep
[06:24] <sam-_-> gb. cu
[06:24] <diz_Child> vmpk
[06:24] <diz_Child> vmpk no sound..
[06:25] <newbie> ActionParsnip: ok it asked me to use 202 mb of space so I think its working ( i said y)
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> newbie: sounds like you needed sme updates :)
[06:27] <newbie> ActionParsnip: yeah i didn;t have the internet connect when I installed ubuntu on the computer
[06:27] <izinucs> newbie: have you done a full update after installing?  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ... ?
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> newbie: hehe well, hope its nicer now
[06:28] <newbie> izinucs: no this is my first time ever using ubuntu 8-)
[06:28] <sunshinepants> newbie: welcome!
[06:29] <izinucs> newbie: do that command in terminal and let it update
[06:30] <newbie> sunshinepants: Thanks, I love how fast ubuntu boots up and stuff I just wish I had connected to the internet in the beginning so I wouldn';thave to go  through this hassle lol
[06:30] <savid> Hi, my CPU is stuck at 800Mhz.  I can't get it back up to 2200, and video playback is choppy at best.  Here's my cpufreq info:  http://pastie.org/1389130    Any ideas?
[06:30] <Shawn146> what is DTSN screen technology?
[06:31] <newbie> izinucs: ok, once its done with this I will enter those three commands into terminal
[06:31] <izinucs> newbie: yes.. all on one line
[06:32] <sunshinepants> newbie: yea, it works pretty good.  if you have any problems you can come here and they'll help you
[06:32] <newbie> izinucs: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <--- Like this?
[06:33] <izinucs> newbie: include the && between commands
[06:34] <r00t4rd3d> does anyone play assault cube ?
[06:34] <izinucs> newbie: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get ...etc.etc.etc
[06:36] <PeterFabinskiMbl> how do i start network service at startup
[06:37] <r00t4rd3d> system , pref , start up preff
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> PeterFabinskiMbl:  what service?
[06:37] <r00t4rd3d> err ...
[06:39] <PeterFabinskiMbl> network
[06:40] <r00t4rd3d> the service should start by default
[06:40] <PeterFabinskiMbl> i have to manually start it when the computer starts
[06:41] <RayGalinato> Hi, can anyone help me? I was wondering if the changes I made to my sysctl.conf is persistent and how I can get default values restored.
[06:41] <rs0832> PeterFabinskiMbl: nm-applet?
[06:41] <PeterFabinskiMbl> ?
[06:41] <lordguck> good morning: I am faced with an odd ssd problem. Until yesterday I was using ubuntu netbook 10.04 on a a-data 64gb ssd card. all of a sudden after an update reboot it is reported (even in bios) as 128gb! dd even produces a 128gb dump. testdisk/fdisk can not find a partition anymore :-( Any idea how to recover the data intact?
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> RayGalinato:  you edited /etc/sysctl.conf ? if so then yes the changes get reapplied on every reboot
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> RayGalinato:  looking at that file. Its all 'comments' so if you remove any changes. it would be back to the defaults.
[06:42] <RayGalinato> Dr_Willis: Thank you! That helps a lot :)
[06:42] <PeterFabinskiMbl> @now EST
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> RayGalinato:  Logical way to do things. :) I had to mess with the -> #kernel.printk = 3 4 1 3
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> RayGalinato:  line just the other day for a laptop with some odd hardware
[06:43] <r00t4rd3d> PeterFabinskiMbl, what command do you use to start it ?
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> wow - some how the zeitguiest activity journal can log that i used vi to check out sysctrl.conf :) wonder how it does that.
[06:45] <PeterFabinskiMbl> maybe i'm on the wrong channel. is there one for BackTrack?
[06:45] <ohir> Dr_Willis: .viminfo
[06:46] <ohir> PeterFabinskiMbl: check a) if you autostart nm-applet b) whether you touched /etc/network/interfaces
[06:47] <ohir> PeterFabinskiMbl: nm-applet no longer competite with someone who know that file exists
[06:48] <ohir> compete*
[06:48] <rs0832> PeterFabinskiMbl: #backtrack-linux
[06:48] <PeterFabinskiMbl> rs0832, thanks
[06:49] <newbie> izinucs: hey can you paste that upgrade line again? when i closed firefox my clipboard was erased
[06:49] <rs0832> PeterFabinskiMbl: sure, no problem:)
[06:49] <izinucs> newbie: you doing irc in FF?  install xchat.. but yes.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  ...
[06:51] <newbie> izinucs: its spit this back: E: The update command takes no arguments
[06:51] <Syria> Guys please tell me how can i install apache2 on an ubuntu vps remotly?
[06:51] <izinucs> newbie: you can cut and paste it or do the command individually..
[06:52] <eric> cl
[06:52] <izinucs> Syria: can you ssh in? sudo apt-get install apache2
[06:54] <intick> .
[06:55] <Syria> izinucs I am sorry but I don't know to ssh to it.!
[06:55] <sresu> I use Kubuntu/KDE alone but today while checking for updates I found language pack updates for gnome as well like language-pack-fr, language-pack-gnome-fr and language-pack-kde-fr... Why I'm getting updates for gnome as well?
[06:55] <ShaRose> There. as soon as it finishes downloading I will see if we can run ubuntu on the freebie netbook my sister got.
[06:55] <ShaRose> Hopefully can, windows ce is crap :P
[06:56] <izinucs> sresu: have you installed *any* gnome programs that you like?
[06:56] <newbie> izinucs: K all done including xchat
[06:56] <sresu> izinucs: I guess not
[06:56] <izinucs> sresu: not to worry
[06:56] <izinucs> newbie: did it do some updates?
[06:57] <Us3r_Unfriendly> newbie: have you tried irssi or weechat?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rShwAB62qM&hd=1
[06:57] <sresu> izinucs: Then well if tha's case I should've got updates for gnome only if GNOME apps were installe right?
[06:57] <newbie> izinucs: ahh I closed the terminal already but I don't think it did
[06:57] <izinucs> sresu: no idea.. my systems have a mix of kde and gnome apps.. desktop is kubuntu .. laptop is ubuntu.. both have a mix
[06:58] <newbie> Us3r_Unfriendly: no, I'll give those a try in a bit
[06:58] <izinucs> gotta run.. sorry guys.
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> Syria:  if you cant even ssh into a remote box. doing stuff likle that that on it will be a bit hard
[06:59] <Syria> Dr_Willis I have just hired a server with ubuntu 10.4 lucid installed on it but I don't know how to ssh to it so i can install apache and mysql.
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> Syria:  ssh ip#
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> Syria:  or hostname or whatever its called.
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> !ssh | Syria
[06:59] <nirazio> How to install opsview in lucid??
[07:00] <maxinux61> Anyone know if it is possible to get 3D working on an Intel 855 chip set?
[07:00] <Syria> Dr_Willis Thank you I will read it.
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> maxinux61:  you may want to check the forums for that exact chipset.
[07:00] <Us3r_Unfriendly> nirazio: are you talking about nagios?  server monitoring package?
[07:01] <maxinux61> DR_Willis: I did most of the posts say it is not possible because the devs disabled in in 10.10.
[07:01] <Syria> Dr_Willis Do you think that the ssh server is installed on the vps?
[07:01] <maxinux61> I was hoping to get a work around.
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> maxinux61:  perhaps it will get reneabled in 11.04 - or the ppa's for the lateext X will have it.
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> Syria:  how can i tell.. its your server.  if they dont have ssh setup.. then how are they expecting you do actually 'do' anything on it?
[07:02] <newbie> thanks everyone so much
[07:02] <nirazio> Us3r_Unfriendly: Yes
[07:02] <Syria> Dr_Willis Thanks again.
[07:02] <maxinux61> Dr_Willis: Thanks, I will check the PPA's.
[07:02] <Us3r_Unfriendly> nirazio:      sudo apt-get install nagstamon
[07:04] <vinus> Which is the fastest downloader for ubuntu?
[07:05] <industrialphreak> feeds them some kimchi
[07:06] <Us3r_Unfriendly> nirazio: I think i'm going to do something different today and tell you how to find it in Ubuntu.  Open a terminal and type in:       sudo apt-get update         then:         sudo apt-cache search opsview                 then it will come up with the name of the package in the repositories.  I guess this is for everyone that doesn't know package names.  Also synaptic is a great gui front-end for
[07:06] <Us3r_Unfriendly>  apt-get.  It'll be easier to you synaptic
[07:06] <Us3r_Unfriendly> *use synaptic
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> Us3r_Unfriendly: apt-cache doesn't need sudo ;)
[07:07] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ActionParsnip: take that back...no sudo....but installing you'll need sudo from the command line
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> Us3r_Unfriendly: just the cache, users can search :D
[07:08] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ActionParsnip: i usually don't use sudo at all
[07:08] <nirazio> Us3r_Unfriendly: Nothing cane up in the result
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> Us3r_Unfriendly: for apt-get you will, users can't install packages
[07:08] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ActionParsnip: but also for apt-get update you'll need sudo
[07:08] <Us3r_Unfriendly> nirazio: what version of ubuntu you say?
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> Us3r_Unfriendly: true but for apt-cache it's not needed
[07:08] <nirazio> Us3r_Unfriendly: ubuntu 10.04
[07:08] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Thnx for your imput ActionParsnip
[07:09] <jorgeluis> hey guys i need some help
[07:09] <Us3r_Unfriendly> nirazio: are you using the ubuntu repos
[07:09] <Us3r_Unfriendly> nirazio: you should have the package in 10.04
[07:10] <nirazio> Us3r_Unfriendly: I think i should add the repo for installing opsview..
[07:10] <nirazio> What should i add???
[07:10] <vinus> how can i run a tar.gz file?
[07:10] <Us3r_Unfriendly> nirazio: that would be good
[07:11] <pickett_> what do i type to uncompress a *.tar.gz file?
[07:11] <Us3r_Unfriendly> vinus: we use that package for pacman in Arch, you'll want the .deb of the package your trying to install
[07:12] <Us3r_Unfriendly> pickett_: to uncompress you need to use gzip.   I would say look at this:       man gzip
[07:13] <neiln> how to run .tar.gz files in my 10.10
[07:13] <vinus> Us3r_Unfriendly:i download it from a site,it only provide tar.gz file...
[07:13] <Us3r_Unfriendly> pickett_: then also man tar
[07:13] <feanor2> !rtfm
[07:13] <Us3r_Unfriendly> vinus: what program is it?
[07:13] <vinus> gmobile....
[07:13] <neiln> !.tar.gz
[07:15] <Us3r_Unfriendly> vinus: have you tried:            sudo apt-get install gmobilemedia
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> !info unp
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> just use unp, it's badass
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: unp-five!
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> unp - has the official ActionParsnip  seal of Approval (AP)
[07:16] <vinus> yes bro y im doing this is bcoz my net is slow....so like to download it externally and install...
[07:17] <Us3r_Unfriendly> vinus: ?
[07:17] <Us3r_Unfriendly> vinus: so you like to download from another machine and install that way....are you downloading from a windows machine?
[07:18] <Us3r_Unfriendly> never mind
[07:18] <gops> Hello world
[07:18] <Us3r_Unfriendly> hi gops
[07:18] <silent> 有人马
[07:18] <silent> 有人吗？？
[07:18] <gops> hi us3r
[07:18] <r00t4rd3d> how come the word com is starred out on the ubuntu forums ?
[07:18] <Us3r_Unfriendly> !cn
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> r00t4rd3d:  im not sure we know what you are talking about.
[07:18] <silent> chinese
[07:18] <Us3r_Unfriendly> hi again r00t4rd3d
[07:19] <gops> i just need to know the chat client used by Mathew Frrel in the movie  Diehard 4
[07:19] <maxjezy> hello, anyone who can tell me how to make icons on desktop go away
[07:19] <maxjezy> invincible
[07:19] <silent> TWEAK
[07:19] <Us3r_Unfriendly> gops: i don't know if he even was using linux in diehard 4
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> maxjezy:  its a gconf setting. the 'ubuntu-tweak' program has some check box's to hide/show them.
[07:20] <maxjezy> Dr_Willis, i know, but in ubuntu 10.10 i cant find that feature in gconf-editor
[07:20] <feanor2> "com" was filtered by profanity filter on ubuntuforums recently
[07:20] <maxjezy> i have been searching for it days and nights
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> maxjezy:  i use ubuntu-tweak so cant tell you where.
[07:20] <gops> k
[07:20] <silent> how can i show my pictures to you on this
[07:20] <Us3r_Unfriendly> gops: does this look good enough?   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rShwAB62qM&hd=1
[07:20] <maxjezy> Dr_Willis, is it in the repo?
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> maxjezy:  it has its own ppa
[07:20] <r00t4rd3d> Dr_Willis, check this out http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8733/screenshotpc.png
[07:20] <maxjezy> i see.
[07:20] <maxjezy> i'll google it
[07:20] <r00t4rd3d> everything that has com in it is *** out
[07:20] <gops> ok i am checking that link
[07:22] <ubuntu> please help me urgent!
[07:22] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ubuntu: what's up?
[07:22] <gops> @ us3r ,oh cool , which is that chat client
[07:22] <ubuntu> i used a s/w kleensweep
[07:22] <gops> wee chat?
[07:22] <Us3r_Unfriendly> yes
[07:22] <rigved> hi everyone. if i wanted to mount my windows partition automatically, then i would add this line to fstab, right? - UUID=<UUID>       /media             ntfs    errors=remount-ro      0       1
[07:22] <Us3r_Unfriendly> gops: irssi is great too
[07:22] <ubuntu> and deleted all orphand files and its backup
[07:22] <gops> ok
[07:23] <Us3r_Unfriendly> gops: or were you looking more for the gui based client?
[07:23] <silent> who can help me about wine
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> I perfer weechat to irssi these days
[07:23] <maxjezy> is http://ubuntu-tweak.com/ a good source for ubuntu-tweak?
[07:23] <ubuntu> when i restarted system it says init: hwclock main process(321) terminated with status 127
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> silent:  state the actual propblem and lets see.. theres always #winehq also
[07:23] <gops> no i am intersted in terminal chat clients
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> rigved:  you dont want to mount to /media/  but somthing like /media/MAKEADIRECTORY
[07:24] <ubuntu> dr_williams: i deleted orphand files and its backup
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> gops:  weechat is one of the best terminal chat clients out.
[07:24] <Flannel> r00t4rd3d: That's just that page, for whatever reason.  It's nothing on your end.
[07:24] <gops> ok im  installing that
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  using what tool ? its possible the cleanup is not related to your problem
[07:25] <ubuntu> dr_williams:kleensweep
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> gops:  be sure to read the weechat docs/guides at their homepage
[07:25] <r00t4rd3d> i see that on multiple pages :/
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> !tab | ubuntu
[07:25] <silent> oh no !!can you see me?? is this sth wrong with xchat??if somebody see me say yes!!ok??
[07:25] <rigved> Dr_Willis: ok. it always gets mounted there. i'll change it the name of the drive. otherwise the other parts of the line are fine, right?
[07:25] <misteranderson> Hey what should a person who just installed ubuntu get?
[07:25] <Flannel> r00t4rd3d: It's just something with the forums, whatever it happens to be.  you might ask in #ubuntuforums if you're curious
[07:25] <gops> k
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> silent:  we see  your messages....
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> misteranderson:  get to the manual page and read the guide? :) what sort of answer are you expecting?
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> !manual | misteranderson
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> misteranderson:  while reading  - install the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package for starters. :)
[07:27] <ubuntu> when i restarted my system it says  init:hwlock main process(321) terminated with status 127  cann't open /etc/default/rcs  int:mountall main process(326) terminated with 127
[07:27] <Us3r_Unfriendly> gops: xchat;  empathy;  pidgin   those are 3 gui based im/irc clients
[07:27] <silent> ok thaks a lot !!it`s my first time use this,but so sorry that my english is poor ,but i want join this very much !!i like ubuntu ,i like linux
[07:27] <ubuntu> dr_williams:this happens after deleting orphand backup
[07:28] <misteranderson> Dr_Willis, I think I already installed that, I will check out the manual
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> misteranderson:  other then that pacakge and insstalling flash/java - and perhaps the chrome browser.. it all depends on what his needs are.
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> !info kleensweep
[07:28] <ubuntu> dr_williams:i started system in recover mode also but  the same thing comes written
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  never seen or heard of kleensweep - not seen anyone else with a similer error message.  so not sure what to suggest.
[07:29] <ubuntu> dr_williams:plz help me as i don't want to lost my dtas
[07:29] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: what is kleensweep?
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  i have a /etc/default/rcS  but not a 'rcs'
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> Us3r_Unfriendly:  seems to be some tool ubuntu  used...
[07:30] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: for?
[07:30] <dnivra> !info kleansweep
[07:30] <ubuntu> dr_williams:u can see the tool in software package
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> Us3r_Unfriendly: ---> :  never seen or heard of kleenswee
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  # This file belongs to the "initscripts" package.
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  perhaps reinstall the initscripts package.
[07:31] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: i think you might be talking about bleachbit
[07:31] <Us3r_Unfriendly> !bleachbit
[07:31] <ubuntu> dr_williams: m using live cd this time
[07:31] <Us3r_Unfriendly> !info bleachbit
[07:31] <francisco> hi
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> Us3r_Unfriendly:  no we are not.. :) uit seems
[07:31] <francisco> i need help
[07:31] <francisco> but i don't speak english very well
[07:31] <dnivra> Us3r_Unfriendly, Dr_Willis check what ubottu just said earlier ^^ :)
[07:31] <francisco> could someone help me?
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  you can mount the broken system,  chroot in, and intall things.. or backup stuff..
[07:31] <dnivra> francisco, what language do you speak well?
[07:31] <francisco> español
[07:32] <francisco> spanish
[07:32] <francisco> xD
[07:32] <ubuntu> dr_williams: how shoulsd i mount
[07:32] <dnivra> !spanish | francisco
[07:32] <francisco> in ubuntu-es
[07:32] <francisco> nobody is online
[07:32] <francisco> i need help
[07:32] <dnivra> !ask | francisco
[07:32] <francisco> so this is why I join here
[07:32]  * Dr_Willis notices that 'kleansweep' has a BIG BOLD warning when it starts up. 'for advanced users, its assumed you know what can be safely deleted'
[07:32] <francisco> ok
[07:33] <dnivra> Dr_Willis, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=893281 says the same.
[07:33] <francisco> I have ubuntu 10.04 lts
[07:33] <francisco> 32 bits version
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> !enter
[07:33] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ubottu: you'll use "sudo fdisk -l" "sudo mount /dev/-thedrivepartitionhere- /media/
[07:33] <francisco> then i downloaded xubuntu 10.04 lts 64 bits
[07:33] <francisco> and intall it in /
[07:33] <dnivra> !enter | francisco
[07:34] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ubuntu: you'll use "sudo fdisk -l" "sudo mount /dev/-thedrivepartitionhere- /media/
[07:34] <francisco> but can't see  my home folder
[07:34] <ubuntu> dr_willis: but can i use this command in my live desktop
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  you 'chroot' into the installed system. and use whatever commands you want
[07:34] <ubuntu> us3r_unfriendly; can i use this command in live desktop
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  i suggest getting to your data abd backing stuff up to some save place also...
[07:35] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ubuntu sudo mount /dev/dm-2 /media/ <---for mounting from a livecd works for me
[07:35] <dnivra> !details | francisco
[07:36] <francisco> kk
[07:36] <francisco> but i dont speak english very well
[07:36] <francisco> sry
[07:36] <ubuntu> dr_williams:but my files were missing now.and i want to tell u that when i cleaned orphaned file and after this when i goes to open any thing it was just flashing and was dissapered
[07:36] <Mr18> How do I make ubuntu set my mounts as read - write?
[07:36] <Mr18> because it is setting this to read only
[07:37] <dnivra> francisco, please try to say everything in a single line. makes it easier to read. don't worry about your english-you made sense so far. take your time.
[07:37] <bullgard> Mr18: see 'man mount'
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> Mr18:  if you are refering to NTFS filesystems? or what?
[07:37] <Mr18> Well, it's my psp.
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> Mr18:  for ntfs/vfat - install  and run the ntfs-config tool  perhaps.
[07:37] <Mr18> I can't drag files into it.
[07:37] <francisco> I install it Xubuntu 10.04 64 bits on / were ubuntu 10.4 32 BITS WAS, then i can't see The /home folder that I was on ubuntu
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> francisco:  if you installed xubuntu over  the old / - it proberly reformated it.. you had /home/ on its own partition?
[07:38] <dangerFlakes> Hey everybody
[07:39] <francisco> i only click to formating / & swap and keep /home, but i only can see the partition where i install xubuntu
[07:39] <francisco> just 30 gb out of 125
[07:39] <ubuntu> dr_willis;when i type chroot in terminal it said missing operand
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> francisco:  if /home is on its own partition. then you proberly dident TELL the installer what to use for /home/  check the other filesystems/partitions and see what one is home. and mount it to access it.
[07:39] <bullgard> francisco: In a terminal, type 'df -h' and see if /home appears.
[07:40] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ubuntu: begin with
[07:40] <dangerFlakes> (super noob) ok, nvidia troubles here... trying to active the drivers but i keep getting an error about held broken packages. any ideas?
[07:40] <Mr18> Dr_Willis, thanks.
[07:40] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ubuntu: begin with:     su -
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> !movehome
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> !move-home
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. theres some factoid on moving the home dir.
[07:40] <Flannel> !separatehome
[07:40] <Mr18> Dr_Willis, actually that didn't work >.>
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> Mr18:  youmayneed to remount the device.
[07:41] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ubuntu: then:            chroot /whereeveryoumountto
[07:41] <Mr18> Dr_Willis, Let me check
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> Mr18:  or just access it as root.
[07:41] <francisco> welll... i think Will re-install xubuntu and put /home on the opld ubuntu partition
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> francisco:  if your home data is on /dev/sdb1 you just need to add ONE line to /etc/fstab to make it used.
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> !mount | francisco
[07:42] <francisco> damn... how much i hate to do'nt speak english very well
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> francisco:  find where yiour old-home is at via 'sudo fdisk -l' and mounting the filesystmes. to verify its there.
[07:42] <francisco> can't understand 100%
[07:42] <ubuntu> us3r_unfriendly: su  said authentication filure
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> su is not used in ubuntu :) by default. use sudo -s, or similer.
[07:42] <mouse> I want to make a release build of something for windows.  Can anyone recommend a good compiler?
[07:43] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ubuntu: sorry you'll need to type in first:        sudo passwd     to create a password for root
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> Us3r_Unfriendly:  thats not really needed  'sudo -s' will work.
[07:43] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sudo should work though
[07:43] <dnivra> francisco, i think you didn't specify during installation that /home was a separate partition. to do so, you just need to add a line to the file /etc/fstab. more details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount.
[07:43] <ubuntu> dr_willaims: ya sudo -s works to get into root
[07:43] <dnivra> mouse, i think gcc should be enough.
[07:44] <Us3r_Unfriendly> dr_williams is right.  I just dive in with su -   ...that's just me though
[07:44] <dangerFlakes_> anyone know how I can remedy this? Nvidia restricted drivers wont activate, keep getting a System error about broken pkgs
[07:44] <dnivra> mouse, but best would be compiling it in a windows machine :).
[07:44] <Us3r_Unfriendly> just kidding with you Dr_Willis
[07:44] <ubuntu> us3r_uninfriendly:now what should i do
[07:44] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: / Dr_Williams
[07:45] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ubuntu: your trying to mount your drive from a live cd right?
[07:45] <ubuntu> ya
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  mount your installed systemn. determnine where its mounted to. You can do that with the file manager on the live cd.
[07:45] <mouse> dnivra, Yeah I was afraid of that.  I didn't want to reboot.
[07:45] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ubuntu: you should forget the terminal for this one and open a nautilus window and select on the left your drive
[07:46] <dnivra> mouse, at the risk of something going wrong in the building? i suggest you do compile it in windows. but, choice is yours :).
[07:46] <francisco> !mount
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> sudo chroot /mnt/WhereYourSystemISMountedTo/ /bin/bash
[07:46] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ubuntu: go to places and computer or where ever, and you'll see the unmounted partition in the left panel
[07:47] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ubuntu: then a icon should pop up on your desktop
[07:48] <ubuntu> says sorry ur nautilius program closed unexceptionally
[07:48] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ubuntu: it most likely mounted that partition at:    /media/the-partition-name-here
[07:48] <dangerFlakes> pls, anyone. Nvidia restricted drivers wont activate, keep getting a System error about broken pkgs
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> dangerFlakes:  sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade,  try again.
[07:49] <Mr18> Dr_Willis, Nope. I am still getting problem with Destiantion is read only :/
[07:49] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ubuntu: then your stuck with the terminal then
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> Mr18:  mount it by hand then. or use root to access it.
[07:49] <Mr18> I already did.
[07:49] <dangerFlakes> hey dr, yeah, did that, nothing updated
[07:50] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: your going to have to get into remote-connection/ssh and get paid for this
[07:51] <cryptic1> hi i know very little about firewalls networking etc and even less about command line or linux
[07:51] <cryptic1> i am wondering if i am being attacked or something from firestarter
[07:51] <cryptic1> it keeps showing blocked onnections
[07:52] <Us3r_Unfriendly> cryptic1: a good place to start is install gufw.  I never liked firestarter with iptables ever
[07:52] <cryptic1> ok ty
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> Us3r_Unfriendly:  i dont think I can be paid enough to do that.
[07:52] <nick> Hi, could anyone recommend some open source ecommerce software please
[07:52] <Us3r_Unfriendly> cryptic1: unless you like firestarter.  I just saying that of my experience with it
[07:53] <cryptic1> its all new to me so i will take ur recommendation
[07:53] <dnivra> Guest13613, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_free_and_open_source_eCommerce_software
[07:53] <dangerFlakes> Dr_Willis, no luck, rebooted, updated and upgraded, same situation
[07:53] <cryptic1> i also have klam av but i think the only thing u really neeed to worry about is key loggers on ubuntu
[07:53] <Guest13613> dnivra: I saw that, was looking for a recommendation :)
[07:53] <Us3r_Unfriendly> cryptic1: make sure to uninstall or turn of firestarter in /etc/rc.d so it doesn't boot.  You never want 2 firewalls running at the same time.  They're both are front-ends for "iptables"
[07:54] <dnivra> Guest13613, oh! okay :).
[07:54] <industry__> or just apt-get remove firestarter
[07:54] <dan_> irc.ntorrents.net
[07:54] <dan_> #NT-help
[07:54] <Us3r_Unfriendly> industry__: true
[07:54] <Mr18> Dr_Willis, Where is the directory of the filesystem, cuz I can't figure out how to mount it
[07:55] <eagles0513875> !karmic
[07:55] <eagles0513875> is karmic still supported?
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> Mr18:  in /media/ somewhere by default - you can mount it by hand whever you want
[07:55] <KB1JWQ> eagles0513875: Yes
[07:55] <eagles0513875> ok
[07:55] <krishna_37> Hi every one
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> Mr18:  sudo mkdir /media/PSP   . sudo mount /dev/XXXX /media/PSP   -t vfat -o OPTIONSYOUMAYNEED
[07:56] <krishna_37> I have a new assembled PC on which i want to install ubuntu 9.10
[07:56] <industry__> Mr18: if you haven't mounted the filesystem yet, then it is one of the device entries under /dev/, if it is an attached disk using the scsi command set, it will be an sd[x]
[07:56] <Guest13613> sure
[07:56] <krishna_37> getting error disk boot failure
[07:56] <cryptic1> ok have gufw with listening report up
[07:56] <krishna_37> can anyone help me on this
[07:56] <industry__> krishna_37 -- why an older version?
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> krishna_37:  booting the cd? or what ecactly
[07:57] <Mr18> Dr_Willis, I get mount: /media is not a block device
[07:57] <cryptic1> 3 udp 2 are avahi daemon and 1 is dhcclient3
[07:57] <krishna_37> first want to install the OS
[07:57] <Us3r_Unfriendly> krishna_37: why 9.10 may i ask?
[07:57] <krishna_37> will upgrade
[07:57] <krishna_37> its booting CD
[07:57] <OneTonTurd> what not 10.10?
[07:57] <OneTonTurd> why.
[07:57] <dnivra> krishna_37, wouldn't it be easier to install a newer version?
[07:58] <industry__> krisha, your life will be easier if you use a newer version
[07:58] <krishna_37> its a new assembled PC
[07:58] <krishna_37> Let me try this
[07:58] <dangerFlakes> pls, anyone. Nvidia restricted drivers wont activate, keep getting a System error about broken pkgs
[07:58] <Us3r_Unfriendly> krishna_37: so you only have the 9.10 cd.  I have that too somewhere
[07:58] <krishna_37> the new version i need to download
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> !mount | Mr18
[07:58] <krishna_37> which i will start latter
[07:58] <dnivra> krishna_37, it's possible that the cd is corrupted. try checking the disk for errors.
[07:59] <industry__> Mr18: you need to mount a device under /dev/. /media is where the filesystem of that device will be attached to your filesystem tree
[07:59] <krishna_37> nope
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> Mr18: -->  sudo mount /dev/YOUNEEDTOFINDWHAT_sdX_it_is  /media/PSP   -t vfat -o OPTIONSYOUMAYNEED
[07:59] <krishna_37> I had aready used in my lapi
[07:59] <krishna_37> it worked
[07:59] <cryptic1> is there any gui app that can detect keyloggers for ubuntu. I have klam av but it cant update not sure if klam finds loggers though
[07:59] <krishna_37> will a new assembled PC cause any issues
[07:59] <Us3r_Unfriendly> krishna_37: you could download the 10.10 version or you could after you install 9.10, type in a terminal:    sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:59] <OneTonTurd> Couldn't you technically mount it where you wanted though. like /mnt  ?
[07:59] <Us3r_Unfriendly> krishna_37: takes longer to do it that way though
[07:59] <iszak> How do I inspect a package (not installed) to see the version?
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> dangerFlakes:  youmay want to pastebin the output of 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' for the channel to look at.
[08:00] <Us3r_Unfriendly> OneTonTurd: yes
[08:00] <industry__> cryptic1: i don't know about gui apps, but there are rootkit scanners
[08:00] <bogdan_> vb cineva limba romana?
[08:00] <Us3r_Unfriendly> OneTonTurd: i usually mount in /media/ or /mnt/ or even my desktop...some ppl might have issues but i have never
[08:01] <cryptic1> industry_ u recommend any for a noob?
[08:01] <feanor2> !кщ
[08:01] <krishna_37> can any one help me with this version installation
[08:01] <krishna_37> now
[08:01] <krishna_37> ?
[08:01] <feanor2> !ro
[08:01] <industry__> cryptic1: try chkrootkit: http://www.chkrootkit.org/
[08:01] <dangerFlakes> Hey everybodysi cant, not on this computer, ha. but there are no erroros with either
[08:01] <Us3r_Unfriendly> krishna_37: what do you need help with installing?
[08:01] <cryptic1> thanks
[08:01] <dnivra> iszak, try "apt-get show <packagename>"
[08:01] <dangerFlakes> man, sorry, been drinking
[08:01] <krishna_37> cant even boot into the bootable cd
[08:01] <OneTonTurd> Us3r_Unfriendly> I just recently installed World of Warcraft this way.
[08:01] <dangerFlakes> haha
[08:02] <iszak> Thanks dnivra, always forget that.
[08:02] <Us3r_Unfriendly> OneTonTurd: ugh world of worcraft
[08:02] <dangerFlakes> upgrade and update go just fine, no errors
[08:02] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sorry i'm not a gamer
[08:02] <dnivra> iszak, no problem :)
[08:02] <dangerFlakes> its the instal of the driver that gets an error
[08:02] <OneTonTurd> Us3r_Unfriendly> mounted it to /mnt  then I just grabbed the info off the disk.
[08:02] <OneTonTurd> Us3r_Unfriendly> haha I know right.
[08:02] <krishna_37> stuck here
[08:03] <iszak> dnivra, it says invalid operation "show".
[08:03] <krishna_37> cant understand why its not booting
[08:03] <iszak> I guess you meant apt-cache?
[08:03] <dnivra> iszak, sorry "apt-cache show" :P
[08:03] <Us3r_Unfriendly> OneTonTurd: you could used the dd command to create a iso of the disk and mounted the iso too
[08:03] <Us3r_Unfriendly> but that works...i usually deal with iso's
[08:04] <iszak> dnivra, thanks once more.
[08:04] <dnivra> krishna_37, what happens when you try to boot?
[08:04] <Us3r_Unfriendly> OneTonTurd: sorry misread...if you have the disk no reason to create a iso.  need coffee
[08:04] <sacarlson> cryptic1: your working on the premiss that ubuntu/linux is as unsecure as windows.  all apps you install with ubuntu if you use packages has been verified and key verified as being the real thing
[08:04] <dnivra> iszak, no problem. sorry about the mix up :).
[08:04] <krishna_37> when i put the cd in the new PC and change the boot order to CD i am getting the error
[08:04] <krishna_37> disk boot failure
[08:04] <iszak> dnivra, some help is better than no help.
[08:05] <OneTonTurd> Us3r_Unfriendly> I actually followed a guide lol.
[08:05] <dnivra> iszak, not always :). sometimes it's best to keep quiet :).
[08:05] <cryptic1> i understand but i am a paranoid lifetime windows user pretty much
[08:05] <Us3r_Unfriendly> OneTonTurd: did it work for you?
[08:05] <karthick87> !pppoe
[08:05] <OneTonTurd> Us3r_Unfriendly> mount /dev/drivename where drive name was my cdrom1
[08:05] <industry__> cryptic1 unless you have a reason to suspect your system has been compromised, chances are you are okay.
[08:06] <cryptic1> i was downloading a bunch of music apps for wine and then that firestarter was goingg crazy with a bunch of blocked connections
[08:06] <karthick87> !internet
[08:06] <OneTonTurd> Us3r_Unfriendly> then mount -t udf -o ro,unhide,uid=1000 /dev/drivename /mountpoint  and i mounted it to /mnt
[08:06] <Us3r_Unfriendly> OneTonTurd: i converted someone from work to linux but he wanted me to install wow on his machine, but after i saw the 7 gig file to install, i said forget it.  takes like 2 days to install...time i don't have
[08:06] <cryptic1> found 2 rootkits in ubuntu software center too
[08:06] <OneTonTurd> lol
[08:06] <cryptic1> one is chrootkit
[08:06] <dnivra> !msgthebot | karthick87
[08:06] <IdleOne> those are rootkit checkers
[08:06] <sacarlson> cryptic1: virus protection is completely useless on any platform in my opinion,  if you want more security there are better ones that exist in ubuntu/linux
[08:07] <Us3r_Unfriendly> cryptic1: you found rootkits...i seriously doubt it
[08:07] <iszak> So why does Ubuntu package with Ruby 1.8 as opposed to 1.9.x?
[08:07] <OneTonTurd> Us3r_Unfriendly>  It wasn't so bad.  This is my first real time going full linux with no dual boot. so
[08:07] <cryptic1> sorry i am not very good with the terminology
[08:07] <IdleOne> cryptic1: the rootkits you found are tools used to check for rootkits
[08:07] <cryptic1> yes
[08:07] <r00t4rd3d> Us3r_Unfriendly, im gonna kill you for showing me that video
[08:07] <dnivra> krishna_37, it seems that disk boot error is a problem with 9.10.  check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1287583.
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> iszak:  the version may of not been out when the reelase  was 'frozen'
[08:08] <olx69> I try to step through virt-manager. vista32 is installed on host x64. Now I try to connect using rdp which wont work. vista has allowed remote and desktop. But on linux host I can't connect
[08:08] <olx69> any ideas
[08:08] <iszak> Dr_Willis, that's what I thought, but I believe it was.
[08:08] <iszak> Oh well, I will just make it, thanks anyway Dr_Willis.
[08:08] <IdleOne> cryptic1: if you stick to the software center you are 99.999% guaranteed safe (nothing is 100%)
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> iszak:  i doubt it.. then again. if it came out a few days/weeks bnefor.. they dont snapshot everything on the exact day
[08:08] <ohir> did it say hostip?
[08:08] <ohir> oops
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> iszak:  look for ppa's
[08:09] <sacarlson> cryptic1: one I beleave in is something like tripwire http://remoteadmin.org.uk/tutorials/42-linux/56-tripwire-ubuntu  I also note changes in my system with git  that monitors changes and my commits that I comment.
[08:10] <Us3r_Unfriendly> r00t4rd3d: why you say that?
[08:11] <zcat[1]> gdebi is a really backward step IMHO ... only a matter of time before the same "you need X codec to see this video" scam sites start including a .deb along with the usual .exe and .dmg malware installer ....
[08:11] <r00t4rd3d> didnt really know to much about compiz
[08:11] <zcat[1]> but for now you're safe ;)
[08:11] <cryptic1> thanks
[08:11] <Us3r_Unfriendly> r00t4rd3d: so your going to kill me over compiz?  that's new
[08:12] <industry__> zcat[1]: malware is always a given. no operating system can protect a user from themselves.
[08:12] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: you also try to help ppl that quit on you half way through?
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> Us3r_Unfriendly:  i do have a life/./ and a sick wife..
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> Us3r_Unfriendly:  i try to help when i can.
[08:13] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: I do as well
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> even if they get my name wrong 100 times
[08:13] <zcat[1]> industry__:  the whole concept of package management and trustworthy software repositories though it probably as close as you can get.. gdebi really breaks that.
[08:14] <r00t4rd3d> now i have new addiction
[08:14] <r00t4rd3d> :/
[08:14] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: that's why i was calling you Dr_Williams...i started laughing after he was calling you the wrong name
[08:14] <Us3r_Unfriendly> r00t4rd3d: what's that?
[08:14] <Scutum> hello I have a question, I found this site http://www.andlinux.org/downloads.php what do you guys suggest
[08:14] <industry__> zcat[1]: there was always dpkg. gdebi makes it graphical. that's the only difference.
[08:14] <zcat[1]> It's like we threw away Linux's biggest advantage because Windows users want to be able to click an installer on a website like they do in Windows.. but they left windows because of the malware problems. Hello?!!
[08:14] <Us3r_Unfriendly> r00t4rd3d: hopefully not killing me
[08:15] <Scutum> to run linux virtually on vista
[08:15] <r00t4rd3d> nah messing with compiz
[08:15] <Scutum> :)
[08:15] <Scutum> r00t4rd3d, is that fir me?
[08:15] <industry__> so really the problem is that it's too easy. which sure, it is. which is why you need the big warnings that say only install packages from trustworthy sources.
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> Scutum:  that worked decently well when i tried it. However. Youmay need to know some linux allready to make it work right. and it was 32bit os only
[08:15] <Us3r_Unfriendly> r00t4rd3d: in that video I was using "the experimental plugins" from compiz's site.  you'll need "git"
[08:15] <r00t4rd3d> Scutum, no
[08:15] <r00t4rd3d> i got them
[08:15] <varun_> Hello world!!I have a problem with mounting.When I connect an external hard drive via usb  then automount does not work and the error exit code 1 shows up saying I need to be superuser to mount.The /etc/fstab shows "user" as one of the options.Also I changed the ownership of the mount folders to my name using--- chown +R myname foldername
[08:16] <r00t4rd3d> Scutum, just install wubi :D
[08:16] <Us3r_Unfriendly> varun_: mount the drive manually
[08:16] <zcat[1]> industry__:  I guess we'll see. I still think gdebi is a mistake
[08:16] <Us3r_Unfriendly> varun_: or change the /etc/fstab
[08:16] <Scutum> wubi
[08:16] <Scutum> ok Il give it a try
[08:16] <Scutum> thank
[08:16] <dnivra> Scutum, you could just run it in virtualbox right?
[08:16] <zephy> scutum: also virtualbox by oracle
[08:16] <zcat[1]> makes it far too easy for noobs to end up running some untrusted script as root..
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> zcat[1]:  gdebi is not installed by default any more. ubuntu software center is the default app to open .deb packages now
[08:16] <dnivra> !virtualbox | Scutum
[08:17] <zcat[1]> Dr_Willis:  Oh.. that's good!
[08:17] <zcat[1]> although does it just do the same thing gdebi did though?
[08:17] <varun_> @Us3r_Unfriendly what should I change the fstab to?
[08:17] <industry__> hardly, if the package center does the same thing. in ubuntu, though, it's not always about the apps
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> zcat[1]:  And ive never noticed gdebi being able to 'add' repos/ppa's  - it just pulls in stuff from the allready setup repos as needed
[08:17] <sacarlson> varun_: what format is this usb drive in?  ext4?
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> zcat[1]:  so i dont see gdebi being an issue
[08:17] <Us3r_Unfriendly> r00t4rd3d: wubi is not the greatest...it's Ubuntu running inside a running windows os.  If you get a bad malware that effects you so you can't boot, you'll not be able to use linux either
[08:18] <industry__> Dr_Willis: it was a graphical .deb package installer.
[08:18] <varun_> It has 3 partitions
[08:18] <industry__> from my experience with it. didn't use the repositories.
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> zcat[1]:  i have se3en .deb's that auto-add their own ppa. that could be a risk.. but so is downloading a .deb from any source in the frst place.
[08:18] <varun_> one is ntfs and the others ext3
[08:18] <zcat[1]> Dr_Willis:  no.. you go to http://scumware.org/ and you click on 'rootme.deb' and it offers to open that in gdebi (or now software centre I guess) and then prompts for the user's password so it can run it as root under gksu
[08:18] <Scutum> r00t4rd3d, is wubi the way to go you think?
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> industry__:  it pulls in ne3eded packages from the repos for a given deb.
[08:18] <Us3r_Unfriendly> varun_: i would suggest mounting it manually from the command line but you'll need "fdisk;mount;and maybe mkdir
[08:18] <r00t4rd3d> malware cant touch me
[08:19] <dangerFlakes> cant get the nvidia drivers to activate. any one know why?
[08:19] <Us3r_Unfriendly> r00t4rd3d: yeah
[08:19] <zcat[1]> just like installing some random exe or msi under windows
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> zcat[1]: so what do you expect it to do exactly?
[08:19] <Us3r_Unfriendly> r00t4rd3d: well stick to the repos for life to be more safer than
[08:19] <industry__> not exactly. at least you have to type a root password under ubuntu/linux. in windows, all you had to do was look at the file funny.
[08:19] <dnivra> Scutum, i wouldn't recommend it- partitioning is always what i'd recommend. try running it in virtualbox if you want.
[08:20] <varun_> @Us3r_Unfriendly I connect the hard drive when I need to save something but everytime I do do I need to mount it manually?Shouldnot this behaviour be automated?
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> gdebi's main feature is it can pull in needed deps for foo.deb  vs. just doing a 'sudo dpkg -i foo.deb'
[08:20] <Us3r_Unfriendly> r00t4rd3d: why did you say kill back there?  some might take that serious
[08:20] <r00t4rd3d> Scutum, wubi basically installs ubuntu like a program. When you boot you can choose windows or ubuntu
[08:20] <zcat[1]> Dr_Willis:  I'd prefer it opens some dialog that advises the user to install 'rootme' via the ubuntu repos (if the package exists)
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> Scutum:  I reccomend trying ubuntu in virtualbox if you wan tit.
[08:20] <Us3r_Unfriendly> varun_: yes it should but it isn't hard to do.
[08:20] <varun_> It is not required when I connect a Usb.Also the same external drive has a virtual CD which mounts automatically
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> zcat[1]:  i do belive ive seen such messages/dialogs in either gdebi, or the software center.
[08:20] <Scutum> Dr_Willis, a virtual box
[08:20] <Mr18> Dr_Willis, wow, all I had to do was reformat :(
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> zcat[1]:
[08:21] <sacarlson> varun_: I assume you use uuid in your fstab file?   Nvidia restricted drivers wont activate, keep getting a System error about broken pkgs
[08:23] <zcat[1]> hmmm.. does this mean they'll make a sequel to MASH?
[08:23] <r00t4rd3d> op caller
[08:23] <r00t4rd3d> :)
[08:23] <Scutum> I want to be running linux on top of windows
[08:23] <varun_> @sacarlson here is my /etc/fstab
[08:23] <varun_> http://pastebin.com/JaKpUUgL
[08:23] <Scutum> no partititon
[08:23] <Us3r_Unfriendly> that's nice dikdik
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> Scutum:  then use that anlinux. IF you got 32bit windows.
[08:23] <dangerFlakes> i was ablr to update and upgrade fine, btw, no errors there
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> Scutum:  theres other ways to do it also. but i use vbox normally
[08:23] <Scutum> ok
[08:24] <dnivra> Scutum, virtual box is best. no hassles, no worries. just you need to boot windows to use ubuntu-perfect to try out :)
[08:24] <Administrator_> hello everyone
[08:24] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Scutum: alright, Dr_Willis offered virtualbox which is a great choice, or just use wubi
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> dangerFlakes:  check the forums for tips on fixing 'broken packages'  pastebin the exact error messages for the channel to read
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> Scutum:  wubi does not run alongside windows. it installs 'under' windows.
[08:24] <Scutum> Dr_Willis, you mean adlinux right?
[08:25] <Scutum> I want something simple hussle free
[08:25] <r00t4rd3d> wubi
[08:25] <Scutum> wubi wont do it then
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> andLinux is a complete Ubuntu Linux system running seamlessly in Windows 2000 based systems (2000, XP, 2003, Vista, 7; 32-bit versions only).
[08:25] <sacarlson> varun_: I see two that must be your problem /dev/sda3  and /dev/sda4  but I thought you said they were usb drives
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> http://www.andlinux.org/
[08:25] <Scutum> Dr_Willis, thank you
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> as i said.. its 32bit ONLY..
[08:25] <r00t4rd3d> your always limited with VM's i think
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> so i cant even use it any more
[08:26] <Us3r_Unfriendly> but with wubi ubuntu will start in windows.  i believe it uses the windows mbr too
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> andlinux is a specialized qemu (i think) setup.
[08:26] <dangerFlakes> SystemError E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> with wubi You boot to linux, or windows.  andlinus spawns a virtual machine, that then uses xming/vnc to make linux apps appear on the windows desktop
[08:26] <r00t4rd3d> not in windows , dual boot
[08:26] <sacarlson> varun_: I'm not sure if it's possible for ntfs but you should use the uuid instead of /dev/sda4  as the drive definition
[08:26] <Scutum> Us3r_Unfriendly, I would like to use linux a a windows application
[08:27] <vipul> what is diffrence between sudo -s and sudo -i  ?
[08:27] <Scutum> not as a partititon
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> dangerFlakes:  so unhold/remvoe the held packages perhaps.
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> vipul:  the enviroment variables from what i recall
[08:27] <Administrator_>  i want use ubuntu ce
[08:27] <varun_> @sacarlson the sda 3 and 4 are fine coz they are partitions of the internal hard drive and get mounted  at boottime.All the drives named sda are the problem coz they
[08:27] <deddly> How do I update the catalogue in Ubuntu Software Center?
[08:27] <dangerFlakes> how do you do that, im super new at this
[08:27] <varun_> are the ones parts of ext hard drive and they are
[08:27] <Scutum> andlinux would be best
[08:28] <Scutum> is what I get from all this answers
[08:28] <sacarlson> varun_: then witch of these disks entries is not automounting?
[08:28] <varun_> connected via ext USB.
[08:28] <varun_> sorry
[08:28] <varun_> all drives named sdb are problems
[08:28] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: but you have the option of booting from which ever want from the windows "host", it's hard to explain but it's like it's installing it inside of windows, not creating a seperate partition
[08:28] <Weazel> is there an 'easy' way to change file type icons ? (ex: change a folder icon inside a specific theme)
[08:28] <vipul> Dr_Willis,  sory i dont understand
[08:29] <Syria> How to allow ping requests from <IP_ADDRESS> for example?
[08:29] <dnivra> dangerFlakes, open synaptic. click on status(at the bottom left corner) and select "broken". that should get you the broken package.
[08:29] <sacarlson> varun_: they may be mounting now but if the disk is physicaly moved to another controler or port then it can cause a problem,  but as long as they stay where they are I guess it's fine
[08:29] <cryptic1> ok i did rkhunter installation from ubuntu software center viewing the readme file but its like trying to read another language
[08:29] <deddly> Please could someone tell me how to update the catalogue in Ubuntu Software Center?
[08:29] <cryptic1> http://rkhunter.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/rkhunter/rkhunter/files/README
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> vipul:  google for the terms 'root shell ubuntu right way' and theres a site/guide that explains it
[08:29] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Weazel: right click the folder and go to properties.  you can click the icon in the window that pops up and change it from there
[08:30] <cryptic1> how do i scan? opened a terminal and copied the first few commands
[08:30] <Weazel> Us3r_Unfriendly:  but it will only work for that specific Icon,  not for all folders or file types
[08:30] <nightcrow> hiya
[08:30] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Weazel: then gksudo nautilus /usr/share/icons/
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[08:30] <sacarlson> varun_: again same error failure to use uuid since they may mount as different point when you use plug and play
[08:31] <nightcrow> i have recently deployed an image of ubuntu 10.04 onto a new server with clonezilla - but for some reason there is no timeout with the grub
[08:31] <cryptic1> closed terminal temporarily gave up and came back here
[08:31] <dnivra> deddly, you mean package lists? you can do that from update manager. i am not sure if you can from software center.
[08:31] <nightcrow> it waits for me to press enter key to load the OS - i have tried to edit grub.lst but to no avail
[08:31] <nightcrow> can someone help me please
[08:31] <varun_> sacarlson: sorry did not make myself clear.All sda s are fine and I have no worries about them coz they are parts of the internal harddrive but the sdb are partitions in ext and I am concerned about their automount.I am going to change the sda and sdb to uuids for all and then try again
[08:31] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Weazel: your most likely going to have to go to the humanity directory
[08:31] <r00t4rd3d> cryptic1, just type sudo rkhunter --check in a terminal
[08:31] <dangerFlakes> xbmc
[08:31] <Scutum> sacarlson, are you pattrick?
[08:31] <dnivra> nightcrow, 10.04 uses grub2, which no longer has menu.lst file.
[08:32] <nightcrow> i mean - grub.cfg
[08:32] <r00t4rd3d> sudo rkhunter --check
[08:32] <nightcrow> typo :)
[08:32] <sacarlson> Scutum: no I'm scotty
[08:32] <Scutum> oh sorry
[08:32] <Weazel> Us3r_Unfriendly: thanks, but thats exactly what i'm trying to avoid, changing each one manually
[08:32] <intick> hi all, i hvae a problem with my FTP server ... i can access it and list folders content from local without problem but when i try using my public IP, it connects very well but does not allow me to list files/folders ..
[08:32] <dnivra> nightcrow, saw https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 on how to set a timeout?
[08:32] <intick> i've checked rights i think it has a relation with passive/active mode
[08:32] <nightcrow> yes
[08:32] <nightcrow> failed
[08:33] <cryptic1> awesome thanks
[08:33] <deddly> dnivra: What I mean is that I'm in Ubuntu Software Centre and want to read about something I'm interested in installing. When I click on "more info" it says "To show information about  this item, the software catalog needs updating
[08:33] <Us3r_Unfriendly> nightcrow: try sudo apt-get install startupmanager.  the gui for changing grub options
[08:33] <reactor> how do I run notify-osd from sh script?
[08:33] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Weazel: sorry don't know what to tell you then
[08:33] <nightcrow> i dont use a gui
[08:33] <r00t4rd3d> cryptic1, another command you should run is sudo rkhunter --update
[08:33] <sacarlson> Scutum: that's ok  my real name is Scott Anton Carlson  as why my nick sacarlson
[08:33] <nightcrow> i log onto the server via ssh
[08:33] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Weazel: that's how you do it
[08:34] <cryptic1> ok thank u r00t
[08:34] <Us3r_Unfriendly> nightcrow: what's the issue?
[08:34] <sivakumar> how can i change my booting option i.e with out pressing the enter button to linux it should go to the linux like windows does
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> You dont edit grub.cfg by hand. Youedit the proper grub /etc/default/grub file and rerun update-grub,
[08:34] <nightcrow> Us3r_Unfriendly: no timeout in grub
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> sivakumar:  whats  it going to now?
[08:34] <Weazel> Us3r_Unfriendly: i understand, but thats too complicated for  something that should be simple like how windows implemented it, but oh well, u win some....
[08:34] <nightcrow> it waits for user input before loading the OS - i have to press enter
[08:34] <dnivra> deddly, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1566708
[08:34] <Scutum> sacarlson, can I PM?
[08:34] <sacarlson> Scutum: sure
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[08:35] <nit-wit> sivakumar, do you want a default boot
[08:35] <sivakumar> Dr_Willis, it showing  two os one is linux and the other is windows
[08:35] <sivakumar> nit-wit, yes
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> sivakumar:  so its not timing out and defaulting to #1 ?
[08:35] <deddly> Thanks, dnivra. I'll take a look
[08:35] <dnivra> deddly, it's a known bug.
[08:35] <nit-wit> sivakumar, install startup manager in Ubuntu
[08:35] <varun_> @dinvra howdy
[08:36] <nightcrow> Dr_Willis: i have the same problem
[08:36] <nightcrow> but im only running one OS
[08:36] <nit-wit> sivakumar, I'm assuming this is apartitoned install not wubi
[08:36] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Weazel: well windows might be the os for you...i don't mean that in a mean way either
[08:37] <sivakumar> Dr_Willis, where
[08:37] <r00t4rd3d> cryptic1, do you think someone is trying to hack your box ?
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> sivakumar:  by default gruvb waits like 10 sec. then goes to the first entry here.
[08:37] <r00t4rd3d> lol
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> sivakumar:  its set in /etc/default/grub
[08:37] <Us3r_Unfriendly> r00t4rd3d: it can be done from here
[08:37] <cryptic1> just paranoid and delusional i guess
[08:37] <cryptic1> so i want to know how to check these things
[08:38] <r00t4rd3d> but your root pass is 123
[08:38] <r00t4rd3d> :P
[08:38] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello! Someone can help me? I cannot input sound from the pink jack of my headset.
[08:38] <Weazel> Us3r_Unfriendly: if i weigh Microsoft's evil/probs/bugs/impotantancy  vs the freedom of linux,  then i'll stick to manual... (just wanted to know if there is a gui like filetypes thingie thats all)
[08:38] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Emmanuel_Chanel: that's for recording
[08:38] <joakimk> How can I "merge" two txt files into one file, as happens with SVN when there is no conflict (status G)?
[08:38] <r00t4rd3d> Emmanuel_Chanel, sudo apt-get install alsamixer
[08:38] <Emmanuel_Chanel> ok. I try.
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> joakimk:  you mean put file2 at the end of file1? or some more complex mergeing?
[08:39] <joakimk> something like "merge file1.txt file2.txt > file.txt"
[08:39] <thehurley> i'm able to manually tether my iphones internet connection, does anyone know how to to configure ubuntu 10.10 so that once the usb cable is plugged in, the tethering connection is automatically brought up?
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> joakimk:  use 'cat'
[08:39] <Weazel> Us3r_Unfriendly: if u would see how my desktop looks like right now, u'll know why i wanted somthing like that :D its so beautiful its killing any Mac or windows or whatnot
[08:39] <rkvirani> How do I change the default runlevel?
[08:39] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Weazel: i haven't seen a app for that.  I manually innertwine my icons themes together and that's how i do it
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> rkvirani:  ubuntu dosent use runlevles like other disrtos do
[08:39] <joakimk> Dr_Willis: no, I want changes in file1 and file2 to be used, both, as long as they don't conflict...
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> !runlevel
[08:39] <intick> !ftp
[08:39] <dangerFlakes> xbmc
[08:39] <sivakumar> Dr_Willis, how to set them
[08:40] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Weazel: take a screenshot and post it on www.imageshack.us
[08:40] <Weazel> aight sec
[08:40] <deddly> dnivra: Fixed that problem, thanks!
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> sivakumar:  check the grub2 docs/guides -  It should be listed near the top opf /etc/default/grub
[08:40] <deddly> Does anyone know if there is a simple command to test sound?
[08:40] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: that's why i frown apon ubuntu.  the rc levels and the xorg.conf upset me a ton when they first changed it
[08:41] <rkvirani> deddly: sound is very complicated in linux.
[08:41] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: but i still love it at the same time
[08:41] <nit-wit> sivakumar, here is a great tutorial on tweaking grub2 look in the signature for more grub fun. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1287602
[08:41] <rkvirani> there are a few different sound servers.
[08:41] <deddly> rkvirani: Yes I
[08:41] <Us3r_Unfriendly> pulse and alsa
[08:41] <deddly> rkvirani: Yes I am just getting to realise that lol
[08:41] <joakimk> Dr_Willis: Did that make sense? Like, if line 1 is changed in file1, and line 3 is changed in file2, I want the output file to contain *both* of these modifications
[08:41] <Us3r_Unfriendly> to start
[08:42] <deddly> rkvirani: I just though there might be a simple sound sample I could play to see if it's working
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> joakimk:  what if theres a blank line ahead of one line thats ot changed.. it can get complex.
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> Us3r_Unfriendly:  upstart is much cleaner then sysv stuff.  it was a needed change.
[08:42] <joakimk> Dr_Willis: well, then I'd want to have that line... I see your point. But SVN does this, right?
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> joakimk:  no idea. I dont code much
[08:42] <Us3r_Unfriendly> joakimk: your going to deffinitly wanna look more into that via the web.  Rc manages the daemons and other auto starting services you'll need
[08:42] <rkvirani> Anyone know how to change the default runlevel in ubuntu, I cant find /etc/inittab!!!
[08:43] <dangerFlakes> ok, I think i figured it out, conflicting nvidia drivers
[08:43] <dangerFlakes> the one i have installed is not metting me remove it and install the correct one
[08:43] <joakimk> Us3r_Unfriendly: what's Rc?
[08:43] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: i agree with upstart
[08:43] <rkvirani> deddly: I think there might be one in your home directory
[08:44] <Us3r_Unfriendly> joakimk: /etc/rc.local
[08:44] <Us3r_Unfriendly> joakimk: your runlevels
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> rkvirani:  ubuntu dosent use runlevels any more. what  are you trying to acomplish by altering runlevels?
[08:44] <joakimk> Us3r_Unfriendly: ah. Thanks.
[08:45] <deddly> rkvirani: ok...well I can't see one. Never mind
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> !inittab
[08:45] <neverwhere> any one trying out lubuntu?
[08:45] <Us3r_Unfriendly> neverwhere: never tried it
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> neverwhere:  it works decently well. lacking in a few ways, but over all - very useable
[08:45] <deddly> I have a clean install after I wrecked my sound. Can anyone please help be install the right componants to avoid buzzing/clicking audio? I want to play mp3 and I want low system demands
[08:46] <neverwhere> i agree, i am currently using it on a sandisk flash drive and running quite well :)
[08:46] <Us3r_Unfriendly> neverwhere: not saying it is bad or anything...i just never got to using it
[08:47] <Us3r_Unfriendly> neverwhere: i want to though and gentoo
[08:48] <neverwhere> to me it's rather a lesser gnome, and i'm curious with gentoo just as well.
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> You dont hear a lot about gentoo these days. :)
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> when lubuntu gets officially supported  - i bet it will take off big time
[08:48] <neverwhere> gentoo seems that it is sort of like BSD
[08:48] <r00t4rd3d> i think ive tried every linux distro made
[08:48] <neverwhere> which im also a lil curious about
[08:48] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: I use a live gentoo disk to remove malware from windows machines when I have customers
[08:49] <neverwhere> what do you use on gentoo to remove crapware from windows???
[08:49] <Us3r_Unfriendly> *as a side job
[08:49] <sivakumar> deddly, whats the problem
[08:50] <meg_> how to install ymessenger
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> Us3r_Unfriendly:  i got a 10 iso's on one flash drive tool :) to do that. heh.
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> !im | meg_
[08:50] <meg_> how to install ymessenger in linux
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> meg_:  use some IM client that supports yahoo, or try meebo.com
[08:50] <r00t4rd3d> meg kmess ftw !
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> meg_:  last i checked the official yahoo program for linux - was like outdated..
[08:50] <neverwhere> meg try pidin, empathy kopete, they all support yahoo messager
[08:51] <deddly> sivakumar: I was experiencing clicking and crackling when playing sound, so I tried installing Open Sound System and nothing worked at all. Nobody could help me get ALSA back so I reinstalled the entire OS. I now have a clean install and would like to avoid the same problems.
[08:52] <meg_> were can i download ymessenger for linux and how to install it
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> deddly:  what OSS did you install exactly?
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> meg_:  are you even reading what people are saying to you?
[08:52] <meg_> kinux
[08:52] <Us3r_Unfriendly> r00t4rd3d: i made it with openshot...I got to say i like it better than pitivi
[08:52] <Weazel> Us3r_Unfriendly: sry totally missed ur request--- >  http://img17.imageshack.us/g/desktop1u.png/
[08:52] <meg_> linux
[08:53] <deddly> Dr_Willis: I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound
[08:53] <rkpisanu> is it possible to mount file without root permission ? mount -o loop new.root.bin /tmp/smaller
[08:53] <meg_> how to install yahoo messenger for linux
[08:54] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Weazel: i gots to say i like the setup
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> rkpisanu:   theres the 'fuse' tools that can let ysers do it. there may be other ways
[08:54] <neverwhere> yeah, meg, i encourage you to install pidgin as i consider that to be the defacto IM app for any linux distro IMHO. what disrto r u using meg???
[08:54] <deddly> Dr_Willis: I only installed OSS because I thought it might help me get rid of the crackling noise
[08:54] <rkpisanu> Dr_Willis, thanks, but what is other way ?
[08:55] <Weazel> Us3r_Unfriendly: thanks :D, many things intertwined to create all of that, got a bit lazy with the icons, since i need to change the icons manually every single place from small to big ^_^ thats why i asked
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> deddly:   youmay want to try updaeting the alsa drivers/system.
[08:55] <Weazel> Us3r_Unfriendly: oh well i guess its time to get back to work now
[08:55] <r00t4rd3d> wow pidgin and kmess look the same :/
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> rkpisanu:  you can set up sudo to allow specific commands perhaps.
[08:55] <meg_> but how to do it
[08:55] <rkpisanu> Dr_Willis, i want to avoid sudo
[08:55] <linux_probe> lol
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> rkpisanu:  then use fuse. that would be the safest way i imagine
[08:55] <neverwhere> meg what distro r u using???
[08:55] <deddly> Dr_Willis: First, though, Gstreamer codecs are the ones I want, right?
[08:56] <rkpisanu> ok
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> deddly:  Huh? I always install ubuntu-restrict3ed-extras
[08:56] <meg_> iam using linux os but i cant install ym
[08:56] <deddly> Dr_Willis: Oh ok I'll try that
[08:56] <ShaRose> anyone know of a a windows CE version of wubi?
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> ShaRose:  i would be suprised if such a thing existed
[08:57] <ShaRose> yeah I figured I'd ask
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> meg_:  you mean the YM client from the yahoo web site?
[08:58] <meg_> you did asnwer my question
[08:58] <ShaRose> trying to get netbook ection on an easy pc
[08:58] <jepong> hi... can i install unity shell on my maverick desktop? thanks
[08:58] <ShaRose> sister get a free one at her Christmas party, so
[08:58] <ShaRose> got
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> ShaRose:  i saw some mini-netbooks that came witn windowsce over the weekend.. wife wanted one.. i wouldent let her get one. Im not even sure tha twindows ce can run normal windows apps.
[08:58] <zeppelin101> can i use gparted to re-size a partition on a hard drive on which ubuntu is installed and from which it is running from?
[08:58] <ShaRose> can't
[08:58] <ShaRose> this one uses ARM as well
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> ShaRose:  they are basically going to use what they came with then.   reason i wouldent let her get one.
[08:59] <Us3r_Unfriendly> zeppelin101: yes but it's safe to do it from a live cd though
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> ShaRose:  ther are ARM based ubuntu/linux ouyt. if it can boot from flash
[08:59] <meg_> plzzz tell me how to install yahoo messenger for linux and download it
[08:59] <ShaRose> Yeah
[08:59] <ShaRose> trying to get it to do that
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> meg_:  use one of the many IM clients in the package manager software center.  most all of them can do Yahoo and many other Im chat protiocals at the same time.
[09:00] <zeppelin101> Us3r_Unfriendly: i run into a strange problem when I try to re-size an ext4 & an ntfs partition whether gparted is running off ubuntu or off a live cd..
[09:00] <r00t4rd3d> meg , we need to know what distro of linux are you running , ubuntu ?
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> meg_:  install and use pidgin perhaps. 'sudo apt-get install pidgin'
[09:00] <meg_> ubuntu
[09:00] <zeppelin101> Us3r_Unfriendly: also, do i need to unmount a FS before i can re-size it? ( i think yes..)
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> zeppelin101:  definatly YES
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> zeppelin101:  i tend to use live cd's to do that task. so everything is unmounted
[09:01] <r00t4rd3d> meg open a terminal and type this sudo apt-get install pidgin
[09:01] <zeppelin101> Dr_ thanks
[09:01] <Us3r_Unfriendly> meg_: i agree with r00t4rd3d
[09:02] <r00t4rd3d> meg or you can get it in the synaptic package manager
[09:02] <neverwhere> meg if you are using ubuntu, than just use empathy to IM people using the yahoo protocal. is there some thing special you are trying to do that empathy does not support??
[09:03] <rigved> meg_: yes. use empathy is very good ^^
[09:03] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Zed`: yes
[09:04] <meg_> yes i do it sudu in termenal
[09:04] <r00t4rd3d> lol
[09:04] <r00t4rd3d> Applications , Internet , pidgin
[09:06] <neverwhere> lol, i was saying that from the begining, just sudo apt-get install pidgin
[09:06] <neverwhere> press "y"
[09:07] <neverwhere> lol
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> hit the big key that says 'e n t e r' .....
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> or just go to meebo.com to do your IM work.
[09:08] <narcislinux> see this http://narcistux.wordpress.com/
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> I think theres some alterantive to meebo these days also.
[09:08] <neverwhere> dr willis, since that mostall distors have some IM client that works with almost all IM's it is almost pointless to use anything else
[09:10] <neverwhere> though IMHO i think empathy is garbage, and kopete is fairly decent, pidgin still takes the fame
[09:10] <Xyeklops79> hey
[09:10] <Xyeklops79> I need help installing Qwest wireless internet that has Vista crap on it
[09:10] <Xyeklops79> I got the self installation
[09:11]  * skraito hi guys need tester for http://yohanespatra.wordpress.com/2010/12/19/0x71-perl-logger-to-syslog-simple-key-logger/ sory to advertise is a simple keylogger using syslog
[09:11] <neverwhere> >>> uh be more specific
[09:11] <Xyeklops79> Please use my name to let me know your talkin to me
[09:11] <meg_> the pidgin is complete what do next
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> meg_:  run pidgin
[09:12] <Xyeklops79> Can anybody help me to install Qwest wireless
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> it should be in themenus. somewhere
[09:12] <meg_> how run pidgin
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> meg_:  Look in the menus?
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> or run 'pidgin' from a terminal
[09:12] <Xyeklops79> I got my terminal up but dont know how to install it?
[09:13] <neverwhere> as said befpre meg, pidgin is going to be under applications/ internet
[09:13] <neverwhere> for the buntus anyway
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> Xyeklops79:  you may want to check the forums for that . If its xp/wndows binary/exeucatles. those proberly wont do what you need
[09:13] <neverwhere> *gnome
[09:13] <skraito> any one can test this script ? sorry to advertise again
[09:13] <skraito> http://yohanespatra.wordpress.com/2010/12/19/0x71-perl-logger-to-syslog-simple-key-logger/
[09:13] <skraito> see whether its working
[09:13] <Xyeklops79> Vista
[09:13] <skraito> on your ubuntu ?
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> skraito:  take it elsewhere to advertise.
[09:13] <IdleOne> skraito: please stop advertising
[09:13] <elricsfate> Guys anyway to get a .net app running in wine? It told me to install the windows version of mono which I have done.
[09:13] <Xyeklops79> Call Klops for short
[09:13] <skraito> nah i need help
[09:14] <skraito> not advertising here
[09:14] <skraito> : (
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> skraito:  and how is it ubuntu support related exactly
[09:14] <elricsfate> Anyone?
[09:14] <elricsfate> Please?
[09:14] <Xyeklops79> It has alot of Windows Vista crap on it
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> elricsfate:  perhaps ask in #winehq or check the wine forums
[09:14] <neverwhere> blah, no wine... jut another excuse to run windows garbage
[09:14] <Xyeklops79> But its the best I can get for now
[09:14] <elricsfate> I have done all of that Dr_Willis
[09:14] <elricsfate> Wine HQ was useless
[09:15] <elricsfate> they told me to use google which I had already done
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> elricsfate:  they are the wine experts.   theres the forums also i guess.
[09:15] <elricsfate> and they told me what I already knew by linking me to some pages I had already read
[09:15] <elricsfate> well it seems the wine experts were not that expert :/
[09:15] <Xyeklops79> Dr Willis How do I find the forums for that then?
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> !forums
[09:16] <Xyeklops79> Ok thank you much :)
[09:16] <meg_> how run pidgin dont familiar in linux
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> meg_:  it has an icon in themenus.. or in a terminal type 'pidgin'
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> !manual | meg_
[09:17] <neverwhere> WTF is qwest wireless anyway?!
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> neverwhere:  i think its some cellphpne thing
[09:17] <Xyeklops79> Its an internet company in MN
[09:17] <Xyeklops79> and cable
[09:17]  * skraito say hi all
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> If its a normal ISp. i cant imagine what they want you to install in the first place.
[09:17] <Xyeklops79> hi
[09:17] <neverwhere> why would you need to install anything for that?
[09:18] <chainlock>  hi
[09:18] <Xyeklops79> Its a self Install CD
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> some isps have helper tools you can isntall. but not needed for the most part.
[09:18] <skraito> hi chainlock and xyeklops
[09:18] <skraito> mind to help testing a script ?
[09:18] <skraito> perl script ?
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> Xyeklops79:  and how are you connected to the internet? router/modem/cable/dsl? sme fancy wireless modem?
[09:18] <systemg33k> how do i get evolution to check "all" my folders?
[09:18] <Administrator_> auto
[09:18] <chainlock> im on an android phone
[09:18] <neverwhere> in my experience there is absolutly no need to install software like that to get connected
[09:18] <Xyeklops79> Its a DSL
[09:19] <chainlock> i cant sorry
[09:19] <IdleOne> skraito: stop asking for testers for your script. it has nothing to do with ubuntu.
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> !dsl | Xyeklops79
[09:19] <Xyeklops79> But right now Im going off unsecure link lol
[09:19] <meg_> pidgin run what do next
[09:19] <Administrator_> you  can iinstall ubuntu on android phone?
[09:19] <chainlock> yes
[09:19] <skraito> i wonder why so many people just get offended so quickly
[09:19] <skraito> i just need to test it on ubuntu
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> Administrator_:  i think ive seen videos of that done.
[09:19] <chainlock> with andchat
[09:20] <IdleOne> skraito: install ubuntu and test it yourself
[09:20] <neverwhere> meg it should have promt you to type the handle of your yahoo account and password, after that your yahoo freinds should have come up
[09:20] <neverwhere> just like AIM
[09:20] <elricsfate> Anyone that can help with my wine problem? Winehq was ZERO help
[09:20] <neverwhere> sorry, i cannot help i think wine is another way to stay dependant on windoes
[09:21] <Xyeklops79> DR you said something about Freenode? What was that again and how do I get to that?
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> Xyeklops79:  you are on freenode...
[09:21] <neverwhere> lol
[09:21] <Xyeklops79> lol sorry
[09:21] <Xyeklops79> You said that there was something I do in here to help me along also
[09:21] <neverwhere> klops what are you using to chat with us???
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> I donrt recall mentionign Freenode at all.
[09:21]  * Dr_Willis has a short attention span.
[09:21] <Administrator_> andchat is not opensouce
[09:22] <Xyeklops79> Im not familiar with this chat at all... I onlt know to come here for help
[09:22] <Xyeklops79> Ummm Xchat IRC
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> !irc
[09:22] <Xyeklops79> ok it was someone else
[09:22] <elricsfate> neverwhere: Thanks for you opinion despite me not asking for it. I came here to ask for help not your opinion on what you use.
[09:22] <tristan3199us1> my ubuntu has changed.. what did i do.. i lost my audio button on the toolbar at the top of the screen.
[09:22] <neverwhere> i still dont particularly understand what it is your trying to do klops otherwise i could help
[09:23] <Xyeklops79> yeah it what my cousin put on here for me to use
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199us1:  either it crashes, or you accidently removed it while removing other stuff from the panel.
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> !reset-panel | tristan3199us1
[09:23] <intick> tristan3199us1: re-add notification zone
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel | tristan3199us1
[09:23] <neverwhere> elricsfate, i know, im sorry just had to state it. dont want to offend
[09:23] <elricsfate> neverwhere: well this is a support channel. Not a channel to state things.
[09:23] <Xyeklops79> I got this self install CD for DSL and cant get the sh!t to open
[09:24] <systemg33k> how do i get evolution to check "all" (like spam) my folders?
[09:24] <Xyeklops79> or install
[09:24] <systemg33k> there is no option under Receiving Options
[09:24] <meg_> what cant add inpidgin
[09:25] <neverwhere> my bad. i will keep the comments to my self as far as that goes elricsfate
[09:25] <tristan3199us1> thanks dr willis.. also some icons have changed.. like my folders look different and a few other icons have changed.. can i do something in terminal to reset to looks of things..
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199us1:  ubuntu-tweak has a tool to totally reset all settings
[09:26] <tristan3199us1> from the repos?
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199us1:  or play with teh appearance settings to get what you like
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[09:26] <Xyeklops79> So is there inside the Browser folder to run to get it to install
[09:26] <tristan3199us1> thanks again..
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu-tweak - not in the repos. google for it
[09:29] <DSteele> join #fluxbox
[09:29] <DSteele> oops
[09:35] <meg_> what can add pidgin i need use yahoo messenger
[09:35] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all. Does anyone know where to get themes for gnome?
[09:36] <ashido> hello?
[09:36] <rigved> meg_: use empathy. it supports yahoo messager
[09:38] <rigved> !info community-themes | SeanInSeattle
[09:41] <meg_> how to install yahoo messenger in linux ubuntu
[09:41] <neverwhere> meg_ if you are reading this< you should have been able to select a protocol, like AIM, or Yahoo, or what ever when prompted for a messenger service. Select one of them, and enter username and password. your friends should come up when the program connects to the yahoo server.
[09:41] <Syria> Guys please tell me how to unzip a file using terminal? is it sudo unzip file.zip ?
[09:42] <zcat[1]> you don't have to sudo EVERYTHING
[09:42] <databits> what is the best virtualization software to run on ubuntu desktop 10.10 ?
[09:42] <pupuserc1803c> hi
[09:42] <neverwhere> databits, virtualbox
[09:43] <x_> o
[09:43] <Xyeklops79> what do you mean you dont have to sudo everything??? lol I sudo everything lol
[09:43] <x_> !
[09:43] <databits> neverwhere: thank you
[09:43] <yop129> can someone provide support with setting up ear candy, can't get it working
[09:43] <Xyeklops79> I sudo alot to everything i do
[09:43] <Xyeklops79> lol
[09:44] <Xyeklops79> How do you not sudo everything?
[09:44] <skraito> guys any gamer here for ubuntu
[09:44] <skraito> ?
[09:44] <skraito> anyone can run allods succesfully on wine ?
[09:45] <zcat[1]> drives me NUTS.. people sudo to unzip or wget then complain that "linux ALWAYS has permission things getting in the way" ..
[09:45] <zcat[1]> well if you SUDO everything all your files end up owned by root!
[09:45] <zcat[1]> unnecessarily...
[09:46] <Syria> Guys how can unzip a file using therminal please?
[09:46] <deddly> My sound is really wierd. When I play a song, sometimes there is no sound at all, sometimes the song plays but with odd clicking, sometimes I just get a loud buzz like it's repeating part of the song over and over very fast and occasionally, though not often, the song plays with no problems. What is causing this and can it be fixed?
[09:46] <yop129> so anyone here have any experience with ear candy?
[09:46] <zcat[1]>  /rant
[09:46] <zcat[1]> Syria:  just unzip x finename.zip  NO SUDO!!!!
[09:46] <Syria> zcat[1] ahaaa no sudo thats it
[09:47] <Xyeklops79> REALLY zcat??? Damn, then all my shit is owned by Root!?
[09:47] <meg_> how to download yahoo messenger for linux ubuntu
[09:47] <meg_> how to download yahoo messenger for linux ubuntu using termenal
[09:47] <yop129> meg_: u want yahoo or an alternate?
[09:47] <databits> what is the best mp3... general audio player? Hoping to find something along the lines of winamp....
[09:47] <yop129> meg_: there's empathy that comes with it that u can use
[09:47] <Syria> zcat[1] can you please tell me how to remove a folder? a whole folder?
[09:48] <deddly> databits: audacious is nice
[09:48] <zcat[1]> meg_:  try just using pidgin, it's already installed
[09:48] <zcat[1]> Syria:  rm -rf foldername
[09:48] <databits> deddly ... thanks
[09:48] <deddly> databits: and it can use winamp skins
actually i think empathy is installed not pidgin
[09:48] <Syria> zcat[1] Thank you very much, I am still trying to learn using the terminal it is awesome.
[09:49] <zcat[1]> Err sorry.. used to be called pidgin?! I can't remember
[09:49] <Ablaqui> Hola
[09:49] <yop129> zcat[1]: it's empathy in 10.10
no is called pidgin.
[09:49] <systemg33k> ya
[09:49] <Ablaqui> Algun español?
[09:49] <alesan> hi, how can I download the sources for a package that I have installed?
[09:49] <alesan> the package is "xawtv"
[09:49] <zcat[1]> anyhow... ubuntu has an IM client that handles just about every common IM network. You don't need to install another
[09:50] <deddly> !es
[09:50] <meg_> how to download yahoo messenger for linux ubuntu
[09:50] <zcat[1]> .. and if you really did need to install another you'd be better advised to find one in the software center rather than downloading something from terminal
[09:51] <yop129> meg_: alright keep repeating urself when people are responding to u and u're ignoring them
[09:51] <systemg33k> meg_: http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Yahoo-Messenger-Download-2.html
[09:51] <dw-> meg_: google it
[09:51] <systemg33k> meg_: download the ubuntu one and install it
[09:51] <alesan> yes but how to download the "sources" of a package
[09:51] <On|Off> Hello
[09:51] <dw-> meg_: sorry not meant to be rude http://google.com/search?q=yahoo+messenger+ubuntu
[09:52] <zcat[1]> alesan:  pt-get source IIRC...
[09:52] <zcat[1]> alesan:  apt-get source IIRC...
[09:52] <alesan> zcat[1], and where will I find the sources?
[09:52] <zcat[1]> /usr/src
[09:52] <zcat[1]> alesan:  it'll arrive as a tarball in /usr/src
[09:53] <tristan3199us1> meg just use wine....
[09:53] <tristan3199us1> or pidgin..
[09:53] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[09:53] <noonian> alesan, you need to make sure the appropriate lines are uncommented out in /etc/apt/sources.list also
[09:53] <deddly> Can anyone help me with my sound probem? It's really wierd. When I play a song, sometimes there is no sound at all, sometimes the song plays but with odd clicking, sometimes I just get a loud buzz like it's repeating part of the song over and over very fast and occasionally, though not often, the song plays with no problems. What is causing this and can it be fixed?
[09:53] <alesan> noonian, which line do I need for xawtv?
[09:54] <zcat[1]> alesan:  also yeah, you need to enable all the src repos .. you can do that through software sources or synaptic or just edit the /etc/apt/sources.list directly..
[09:54] <meg_> how to download ymessenger for linux ubuntu
[09:54] <alesan> meg_, you can use firefow or wget
[09:54] <alesan> firefox
[09:54] <noonian> alesan, just uncomment all the deb-src ones for the ones you have enabled already
[09:55] <yop129> does pulseaudio come as standard in 10.10?
[09:55] <On|Off> Using gnome-system-log, is there a way the log displays the bottom of the selected log file instead of the beginning ? It' s rather anoying.
[09:55] <tristan3199us1> i have an issue.. i want to put an 8gig file on usb.. it gets 80 percent done or so and has an error saying the file is too large.. not that im out of room but the file is too large... what does this mean...
[09:55] <meg_> i dont have firefow
[09:56] <darth_grantius> tristan3199us1: what file system?
[09:56] <deddly> No sound experts here?
[09:56] <darth_grantius> fat can only have file sizes of 4gb iirc
[09:56] <darth_grantius> same with fat32
[09:56] <tristan3199us1> my ntsf usb or my ext3 HD..
[09:56] <deploy> For months my Ubuntu has been freezing a couple of times a day. Total lock up. Cant even get to a TTY to run top. Which log might give me a clue or what can I do to track down the problem?
[09:56] <alesan> meg_, firefox
[09:57] <zcat[1]> tristan3199us1:  sounds like your USB is FAT32 not NTFS...
[09:57] <yop129> tristan3199us1: ur USB drive, what file system?
[09:57] <yop129> tristan3199us1: try formatting the USB to NTFS
[09:57] <systemg33k> In thunderbird I have second mail account but no Spam folder shows up. Why?
[09:57] <tristan3199us1> i tried them all.. i reformatted the usb like 10 times to every possible file system
[09:57] <yop129> tristan3199us1: but backup everything first obviouslly
[09:58] <yop129> hmm
[09:58] <tristan3199us1> i dont need anything on the usb drive... i just want a huge iso to fit on my 16 gb drive..
[09:59] <yop129> what's the exact error it gives?
[09:59] <tristan3199us1> it says the file is too large to be split??
[09:59] <tristan3199us1> i didnt ask anything to be split tho
[09:59] <lulzcat> PIT PIT CHEST
[10:00] <tristan3199us1> lulzcat is an advertisement.. ban it..
[10:00] <rigved> deploy: see somewhere in /var/log. not sure which log has the required info.
[10:00] <databits> what is a good program to handle RAR archives ?
[10:00] <deploy> Neither am I!
[10:00] <tristan3199us1> should i do a rar archive and move that to the drive..
[10:01] <zcat[1]> databits:  install rar/unrar, I think fileroller (built into gnome) will then use that as a back end so you just double-click and it opens like any other archive..
[10:02] <zcat[1]> databits:  otherwise you can use rar and unrar from the terminal ...
[10:02] <skraito> hi guys in ubuntu when we do full partition does it install grub
[10:02] <skraito> i dont see grub on my screen when boot up
[10:02] <Jragon> Is there a way to chmod one folder(htdocs) and it chmods everthing else insideof it?
[10:03] <Jragon> Sorry, I didn't mean to leave.
[10:03] <tristan3199us1> so basically nobody knows why i cant put it on my ntsf usb..
[10:03] <yop129> tristan3199us1: try copying the file through command line
[10:03] <zcat[1]> skraito:  if there's only one OS installed, GRUB2 gets configured to just boot straight into it so you won't see the GRUB menu
[10:03] <yop129> tristan3199us1: do it in the terminal
[10:03] <skraito> oh crap
[10:03] <zcat[1]> skraito:  if you want to see it hold the shift key
[10:03] <rigved> skraito: press "Shift" just before the boot process starts. you'll see the boot menu
[10:03] <tristan3199us1> will do yop129
[10:03] <skraito> i dont have vista cd
[10:03] <skraito> now i am stuck
[10:03] <skraito> any suggestion i want to get rid of my ubuntu
[10:03] <rigved> skraito: ^^
[10:03] <skraito> but stuck with grub
[10:04] <yop129> does anyone use ear candy?
[10:04] <skraito> and my damn asus laptop dont come with window vista cd
[10:04] <Jragon> Sorry, I didn't mean to leave.
[10:04] <skraito> oh man life sux
[10:04] <Jragon> Is there a way to chmod one folder(htdocs) and it chmods everthing else insideof it?
[10:04] <rigved> skraito: ^^ check what zcat[1] and I have said earlier
[10:04] <skraito> chmod -R
[10:04] <tristan3199us1> sounds self inflicted skraito
[10:04] <agus> how to download file from internet via ssh and leave the process
[10:04] <zcat[1]> skraito:  in the past I've used Ubuntu's 'mbr' package to install a generic MBR that's sufficient to get WinXP booted. I think Vista and Seven have a much more complicated boot sequence though
[10:05] <yop129> agus: why ssh u can use wget usually
[10:05] <tristan3199us1> download the iso and burn it...
[10:05] <Jragon> Skraito, od you just type chmod 777 -r /odt/lampp/htdocs?
[10:05] <skraito> if i am not wrong chmod -R 777 directory
[10:05] <Jragon> In root...
[10:05] <skraito> man chmod
[10:05] <rigved> skraito: are you unable to get the grub boot menu after pressing "Shift"?
[10:05] <Jragon> I'll try that.
[10:05] <agus> I already use wget using ssh, can I close terminal without stop the process
[10:06] <zcat[1]> skraito:  so you had a dusl-boot system and you removed the ubuntu partition?
[10:06] <skraito> nope i wanted to get rid of ubuntu
[10:06] <tristan3199us1> is there anything i can use to get more familiar with the terminal...
[10:06] <yop129> tristan3199us1: there are commands online
[10:06] <zcat[1]> skraito:  so this is really a windows problem... you're on the wrong channel ;)
[10:06] <Peddy> is 7zip included in ubuntu by default?
[10:06] <yop129> tristan3199us1: the copy command would be cp, so try searching terminal cp on google
[10:06] <Jragon> Is there a way to see the what folders are chmodded?
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> Peddy:  i dont think so
[10:07] <rigved> !terminal | tristan3199us1
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> !info p7zip
[10:07] <Peddy> ah, ty
[10:07] <agus>  I already use wget using ssh to download file, can I close terminal without stop the process?
[10:07] <Peddy> Dr_Willis, do you know of any included archival software that supports passwords?
[10:07] <JimboLimbo> Morning, I've been having problems with vnc (x11vnc/remote desktop/vncserver) running and when I remote to the machine it randomly restarts my gdm, any help on what is going on?
[10:07] <rigved> agus: no
[10:07] <yop129> !info earcandy
[10:08] <agus> is there anyway?
[10:08] <zcat[1]> agus:  in future, run 'screen' first .. then ctrl-A D will detatch the session, screen -X will reattach it.
[10:08] <yop129> cool, didn't know there was feature like that
[10:08] <Jragon> Is there a way to see the what folders are chmodded?
[10:08] <tristan3199us1> i visited something called 4chan.. somebody at work was talking about it and i thought i would see for myself..
[10:08] <tristan3199us1> now it has its own menu with file edit ect..
[10:08] <tristan3199us1> why..
[10:08] <Jragon> Is there a way to see the what folders are chmodded?
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199us1:  what are you talking about?
[10:09] <yop129> tristan3199us1: see what? lol, it's not that kind of cp
[10:09] <tristan3199us1> sorry.. off subject..
[10:09] <agus> I dont understand the step
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> Jragon:  ls -al , shows the modes on files/dirs
[10:09] <tristan3199us1> firefox says at the top .. "file, edit, view, history, 4chan, help...
[10:09] <Jragon> So if i cd to /opt/lampp/htdocs then do ls-al it will show me?
[10:09] <yop129> tristan3199us1: and he broke the rules by telling u and u broke the rules by saying it here
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> Jragon:  try it and see.. and its ls -al (with a space)
[10:10] <zcat[1]> !info screen | agus
[10:10] <tristan3199us1> rules of the site???
[10:10] <yop129> tristan3199us1: post a screenshot
[10:10] <yop129> tristan3199us1: yeah
[10:10] <tristan3199us1> am i banned.. lol
[10:10] <JimboLimbo> Morning, I've been having problems with vnc (x11vnc/remote desktop/vncserver) running and when I remote to the machine it randomly restarts my gdm, any help on what is going on
[10:10] <databits> zcat: what is the program called that is used for rar/unrar ?
[10:10] <Jragon> Hmm... It shows a whole load of info and then down the side it has my folders highlighted in green
[10:11] <Jragon> There is also . and ..
[10:11] <yop129> tristan3199us1: lol it's off topic let's not talk about it here, post a screenshot of the problem u're having with the menus
[10:11] <zcat[1]> databits:  the one for rar is called "rar" and the one to unrar is called "unrar" -- ;-)
[10:11] <Jragon> What is the floodbot thing?
[10:11] <alesan> is this a takeover attempt?
[10:11] <Gnea> Jragon: normal stuff
[10:11] <Gnea> alesan: impossible to do here
[10:11] <JimboLimbo> silly you cant take over a services channel
[10:11] <skraito> what is the torrent downloader prefered on ubuntu ?
[10:12] <databits> I'm going to guess that is cli based program correct ? Is there a rar/unrar program that is gui based ?
[10:12] <chyyk> hu
[10:12] <chyyk> hi
[10:12] <JimboLimbo> skraito, qbittorent or deluge
[10:12] <Peddy> !zip
[10:12] <Jragon> Dr_Willis so what does it mean?
[10:12] <skraito> thx
[10:12] <Gnea> databits: file roller
[10:12] <tristan3199us1> yop129: want to pm me and inform me how "it" works
[10:12] <rigved> !floodbot | Jragon
[10:12] <zcat[1]> Jragon:  there's a dozen floodbots, so when one person accidentally posts three lines in a row it gets followed by a dozen bots opping up and changing modes....
[10:12] <tristan3199us1> and will do..
[10:12] <rigved> !flood | Jragon
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> !permissions | Jragon
[10:12] <yop129> so no one here knows about earcandy?
[10:12] <Gnea> Jragon: they prevent flooding, plain and simple.
[10:13] <tristan3199us1> i know of skullcandy
[10:13] <sagaci> Earcandy?
[10:13] <JimboLimbo> has anyone had problems with vncserver/x11vnc randomly restarting gdm? need assistance
[10:13] <zcat[1]> !earcandy
[10:13] <Dr_Willis> yop129:  i heard about it once ages ago.. and thats about it.
[10:13] <databits> Gnea what is the best way to install file roller ... using the synaptic package installer ?
[10:13] <Peddy> !gzip
[10:13] <sacarlson> databits: seems nautilus does almost all the un compresion I normaly need,  I think you can add more to it if needed
[10:13] <Dr_Willis> yop129:  could be a dead project. ive not seen it mentioned in quite some time
[10:13] <Gnea> databits: yeah, it should already be there
[10:14] <yop129> Dr_Willis: trying to get it working, seems like good app, but can't get it to function
[10:14] <Dr_Willis> yop129:  never really tried it. check its homepage if it has issues
[10:14] <Jragon> Gnea: lol, first time i saw them i thought they were for flooding.
[10:14] <Jragon> Thanks Dr_Willis
[10:15] <JimboLimbo> has anyone had problems with vncserver/x11vnc randomly restarting gdm? which requires me to ssh and restart x11vnc/vncserver again, need assistance
[10:15] <databits> sacarlson: does nautilus have a feature where you can right click on the file and select uncompress here ? that way you don't have to go threw and open the program to uncompress the files ?
[10:15] <sagaci> No jimbo
[10:15] <Syria> #join #ubuntu-server
[10:15] <`marianne`> i have a randomish question... does *any* OS currently support the use of 3D displays to do things like make windows float at different depths, or above the wallpaper, etc?
[10:15] <yop129> Dr_Willis: i did, nothing on the homepage except features, changelog, and how to dl it, does pulseaudio come standard with ubuntu 10.10?
[10:15] <Syria> :S
[10:15] <nawri> hi
[10:16] <sagaci> Ubuntu doesn't
[10:16] <Dr_Willis> yop129:  pulse audio is standard.. has been for years
[10:16] <JimboLimbo> `marianne`: yea compiz does that
[10:16] <NoobTester> hi all
[10:16] <Dr_Willis> databits:  i have such a menu item here.. not sure where it came from.
[10:16] <`marianne`> JimboLimbo, neat, thanks :) was just looking at what display i'd want to get if i became stupidly rich hehe
[10:17] <rigved> `marianne`: JimboLimbo means that ubuntu does , when used with compiz
[10:17] <JimboLimbo> correct
[10:17] <`marianne`> even better then!
[10:17] <sacarlson> databits: normaly I just double click it in nautilus and it opens compressed files in an arkive manager
[10:17] <Jragon> How do I record audio? I have downloaded audacity, using my inbuilt microphone it does not pick up anything. Please help thanks.
[10:17] <NoobTester> channel for ubuntu ita?
[10:17] <`marianne`> or, you know, if 3D TVs become less expensive
[10:17] <deddly> My sound is really weird. When I play a song, sometimes there is no sound at all, sometimes the song plays but with odd clicking, sometimes I just get a loud buzz like it's repeating part of the song over and over very fast and occasionally, though not often, the song plays with no problems. However the song starts off, that's how it plays all the way through. What is causing this and can it be fixed?
[10:17] <JimboLimbo> Jragon: make sure the right mic is selected
[10:17] <sacarlson> databits: there is a right click to compress things
[10:17] <rigved> !it | NoobTester
[10:17] <Jragon> How?
[10:18] <yop129> Dr_Willis: alright, hmm
[10:18] <Jragon> Also when i plug in my amp to the audio soccet it doesnt pick up anything.
[10:18] <JimboLimbo> Jragon: check audio settings also install pulse audio volume control
[10:18] <Jragon> Whats the sorce for that so i can do the apt-get install thing.
[10:18] <databits> I just tried opening up the file with the default program that was allready installed which is "file-roller" rar files are not supported :(
[10:19] <JimboLimbo> Jragon: just search synaptic for exactly what i wrote
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> !rar | databits
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> databits:  you have to install the proper 'rar' bianries to add support to fileroler for them
[10:19] <Jragon> Okey.
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> databits:  7zip also has rar extensions you can install.
[10:20] <databits> ubottu: thanks alot bro
[10:20] <JimboLimbo> lol
[10:20] <sagaci> They're proprietary, right?
[10:20] <Jragon> An error occured when opening Synamptic:
[10:20] <Jragon> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ maverick/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_partner_binary-i386_Packages)
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> jabalsad:  you got a redundant entry in your sources listing.. its not a critical error. (or sholdent be)
[10:22] <Jragon> JimboLimbo, there is nothing on the list when i search.
[10:22] <JimboLimbo> Jragon: check your repos that they are all enabled..then update it, then search
[10:22] <databits> dr willis: which program would you recomend installing to handle all my archiving ?
[10:23] <JimboLimbo> it's called PulseAudio Volume Control
[10:24] <sagaci> PAVC
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> databits:  i just use the command line. and perhaps 'mc'
[10:24] <databits> I think I might have found a good package :)
[10:25] <sagaci> Which one?
[10:25] <trijntje> Hi all, is there a way to let cairo-dock display the icons from the applications menu?
[10:25] <sacarlson> databits: it seems in this post they seem to think that file roller can support rar but I'm not sure myself http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21375.html
[10:26] <Jragon> JimboLimbo, how do i do that?
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> sacarlson:  it can IF you have the rar binaries installed.
[10:27] <sacarlson> databits: Dr_Willis: there ya go install the rar libs then
[10:27] <sagaci> Binary blobs
[10:27] <databits> well I downloaded the 7zip
[10:28] <databits> it said that it installed correctly... but now I'm unsure how to get to the program
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> databits:  i install the 7zip stuff and the rar binaries.. and bascialy can extract anything i find.
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> !info unp
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> !info unrar
[10:28] <forteller> Hi, does anyone know if I have to do anything special to get Wine to recognize USBs?
[10:29] <databits> it has been a long time sense I have ran ubuntu desktop... I know there is a way to add programs to the applications menu
[10:29] <sacarlson> databits: well 7zip isn't unrar,  you would also need to install that with apt-get install unrar
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> !info p7zip-rar
[10:29] <databits> it said right on the package description, that it was capable of decompressing rar files
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> 7zip has a module for ar :)
[10:29] <root_> what   up
[10:29] <databits> ubottu: where did you find that ?
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> databits:  i searched the package manager. :)  synaptic
[10:30] <root_> where are the woman
[10:31] <Dr_Willis>  sudo apt-get install p7zip p7zip-rar  unrar rar  unp
[10:31] <sagaci> #ubuntu-women? :)
[10:31] <bazhang> root_, wrong network
[10:31] <yop129> does anyone know where i can get documentation for earcandy?
[10:31] <bazhang> sagaci, dont suggest that
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> yop129:  if theres none at the homepage.. check its source.
[10:31] <dalbelo> How do I refresh the /etc/network/interfaces file to make changes take effect without reboot computer?
[10:32] <databits> installing now
[10:32] <databits> ok it is installed... how do I go about running the program now ?
[10:32] <sacarlson> databits: double click on the file I guess
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> databits:  what program?
[10:33] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello! My mic. mute problem is solved, with r00t4rd3d 's help. Thanks r00t4rd3d .
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> databits:  i just 'unp archivename' and it extracts it for me 99.999% of the time. :)
[10:33] <Emmanuel_Chanel> But the mic input works slowly. But I don't know what keywords to search by. Someone can help me?
[10:33] <yop129> Dr_Willis: whatchu talking about willis (sorry, couldn't resist), but seriously the source code might have documentation inside it?
[10:34] <Jragon> Bye.
[10:34] <JimboLimbo> has anyone had problems with vncserver/x11vnc randomly restarting gdm? which requires me to ssh and restart x11vnc/vncserver again, need assistance.  only randonly restarts gdm when vnc is loaded btw.
[10:34] <sagaci> Might
[10:34] <deanc> I see there's a community project to put ubuntu on intel macs, but is it pretty unstable?
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> yop129:  if it dosent.. well.. we cant learn about stuff thats not documented/exists...
[10:34] <dalbelo> How do I refresh network setting in /etc/network/interfaces without rebooting the computer?
[10:35] <bazhang> deanc, you mean ppc? it works fine on intel macs
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> deanc:  ive never heard it called unstable..  its intel hardware basically. with just a few changes. Check the forums perjhaps? it seems used quite a lot.
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> deanc:  ppc - is a WHOLE nother disaster. :)
[10:35] <ohir> dalbelo: ifup / ifdown will do the trick
[10:35] <ohir> dalbelo: ifdown eth0 then ifup eth0
[10:35] <dalbelo> thx
[10:35] <sagaci> He's probably referring to EFI
[10:35] <deanc> bazhang, Dr_Willis: well im thinking of buying a macbook air but I *really* dont wanna use OSX
[10:36] <ohir> dalbelo: its better to do ifdown before you fiddle with interfaces file
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> deanc:  then why spend the extra $$$?  i dont see the point.
[10:36] <JimboLimbo> why spend so much on a macbook air?
[10:36] <JimboLimbo> lol
[10:36] <JimboLimbo> no point then
[10:36] <bazhang> deanc, works perfectly well on my intel iMac
[10:36] <deanc> because it's so pretty and light!
[10:36] <dpy> deanc, yeah, why spend so much money on looks