[00:01] <kernix> hi all
[00:01] <eeee> hello
[00:01] <kernix> hey eeee
[00:01] <Melar> I removed most of my old kernels but removed the last one... so I quick installed generic image 3.13.0-35 but still have no drivers or networking or usb on a aoa-150 netbook
[00:02] <blackangelpr> guys any one know  a bit about grub i could not boot after using my ssd on another computer :p  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8192171/
[00:02] <Melar> just need a direction to go in I got too trigger happy because my /boot had only 100mb
[00:03] <eeee> _josh: did you add the readline headers?
[00:04] <Beldar> MelarHave you run a apt-get update and dist-upgrade yet?
[00:05] <Melar> networking is defunct
[00:05] <Melar> ifconfig gies me lo only
[00:05] <Beldar> Melar, had you modified the kernel from /etc/default/grub ?
[00:05] <blackangelpr> Melar, did you disable it by mistake on bios? :(
[00:06] <_josh> eeee, yes. turns out i needed to put -lreadline at the end of the gcc command instead
[00:06] <evil_dan2wik> I need the package for LibSDL 1.2, what is it called?
[00:07] <LucasTT> google chrome is showing no icons
[00:07] <LucasTT> how do i fix that?
[00:07] <blackangelpr> evil_dan2wik, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libsdl-image1.2-dev
[00:08] <blackangelpr> anyone knows how to remake grub from live cd? :(   http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libsdl-image1.2-dev
[00:09] <skylake> when is skylake going to drop?
[00:09] <prohobo> i dunno, i guess when he decides to
[00:13] <Melar> okay dying here... any ides?
[00:13] <Melar> *ideas?
[00:13] <expunge> Melar: keep living instead?
[00:14] <Melar> lol
[00:14] <expunge> Melar: what's up?
[00:15] <expunge> so get a new kernel
[00:17] <expunge> Melar: you can get a list of drivers to work from by booting up the Ubuntu live OS (install media) and running 'lsmod'
[00:21] <sveinse> Is it possible to list which so's a running program is using? In particular I'm speculating that something in the unity world is picking an incorrect .so file
[00:24] <cn28h> sveinse: /proc/[pid]/maps maybe
[00:27] <cyberjunkie> Does anyone know of any good video tutorials for recompiling a kernel for ubuntu?
[00:28] <cyberjunkie> That or a good set of instructions from a site.
[00:29] <z9999> hello Beldar
[00:29] <z9999> Beldar, are you around?
[00:29] <cyberjunkie> Not recompiling but compiling a kernel i mean.
[00:30] <Beldar> z9999, yes
[00:30] <z9999> hi Beldar i couldnt get anything done last night
[00:31] <z9999> Beldar, i tried unetbootin and it didnt load the iso into the usb
[00:31] <z9999> Beldar, i can't get winusb because of the new version of ubuntu i have
[00:31] <z9999> Beldar, yumi doesnt work because it is for ubuntu not windows
[00:31] <z9999> Beldar, what else?
[00:31] <cyberjunkie> why don't you use the dd command?
[00:31] <cyberjunkie> Sorry to interupt.
[00:32] <Beldar> z9999, yes I saw that, my suggestion is finding someone to help you with this there. Basically you were given several tools that work, but could not figure them out, we can only do so much here. ;)
[00:32] <z9999> Beldar, no multiboot this time. right now i will be happy to get windows and later i can install ubuntu into a usb
[00:32] <z9999> Beldar, oh i see
[00:33] <cyberjunkie> Are u creating windows or ubuntu?
[00:34] <z9999> cyberjunkie, i am in ubuntu but i am trying to reinstall windows. ideally i want to do dual os but i am i can't figure it out
[00:34] <cyberjunkie> Use rufus for windows.
[00:34] <z9999> cyberjunkie, i can't even figure out how to reinstall windows right now
[00:34] <Beldar> z9999, You are welcome to keep asking, myself I can only show you so much is all.
[00:34] <cyberjunkie> Write iso to usb using rufus
[00:34] <z9999> ok Beldar i understand. i don't mean to frustrate people tryin to help
[00:35] <cyberjunkie> then when u get windows download wubi to install ubuntu along side windows.
[00:35] <cyberjunkie> Search for rufus.
[00:35] <z9999> Beldar, for some reason installing ubuntu was so easy i didn't know it would be so much trouble trying to reinstall windows
[00:35] <cyberjunkie> I just used it the other day.
[00:36] <z9999> cyberjunkie rufus can take a windows.iso?
[00:36] <cyberjunkie> Search "download rufus" in google.
[00:36] <cyberjunkie> Yes, I  just installed windows three days ago with rufus.
[00:36] <z9999> thanks cyberjunkie
[00:36] <z9999> :)
[00:36] <z9999> some hope
[00:36] <cyberjunkie> Now, I a bk in linux. lol
[00:36] <cyberjunkie> I am back*
[00:38] <cyberjunkie> But rufus is a reliable program to install windows. I used another windows laptop though to use rufus.
[00:38] <cyberjunkie> There is many usb writers though.
[00:38] <cyberjunkie> If you can't use a usb writer though use the dd command.
[00:39] <cyberjunkie> Do u know how to use the dd command?
[00:39] <cyberjunkie> What is the name of your iso file?
[00:40] <cyberjunkie> I will give you the command to put the iso on your usb from terminal.
[00:40] <z9999> hmmm ok
[00:40] <z9999> brb
[00:40] <z9999> gonna cme back
[00:40] <faryshta> hi, where is the apache error log on ubuntu?
[00:42] <reevot> help
[00:42] <zzzz9999> hello
[00:42] <zzzz9999> i am back
[00:43] <zzzz9999> who was i speaking to?
[00:43] <zzzz9999> hello Beldar
[00:43] <cyberjunkie> Me
[00:43] <zzzz9999> i don't mean to be annoying Beldar
[00:43] <cyberjunkie> zzzz9999
[00:43] <cyberjunkie> Give me the name of the iso.
[00:43] <zzzz9999> cyberjunkie, is it ok i pm you? i don't want to annoy others. i have been trying to get help since last night. some are really annoyed with me
[00:44] <cyberjunkie> Idc.
[00:44] <cyberjunkie> Pm away but give me the name of the iso
[00:46] <Jeffrey_f> can someone explain how to, once you fix code, that you can upload it?
[00:46] <Jeffrey_f> meaning Launchpad
[00:47] <trism> Jeffrey_f: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/fixing-a-bug.html
[00:48] <expunge> !contribute
[00:51] <judh1234> hello?
[00:55] <faryshta> hi
[00:55] <faryshta> how can i check apache error log on ubuntu?
[00:56] <OerHeks> tail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log
[00:56] <Jeffrey_f> Thanks trism
[01:05] <faryshta> OerHeks, file not found.
[01:08] <derek-g> can anyone help me with this issue:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/464600/cant-get-monitor-image-back-on-after-toggling-monitor-power-button  ?
[01:12] <expunge> derek-g: does the monitor have a light for indicating it's on?
[01:12] <faryshta> how can i check apache error log on ubuntu?
[01:12] <expunge> faryshta: /var/log/
[01:12] <K1rk> faryshta: Probably in /var/log/apache2/error.log
[01:14] <K1rk> derek-g: If lightdm is crashing you might find some insights in /var/log/syslog, but as it sounds like you are toggling the monitor power that should not communicate anything back to lightdm and cause a crash.  Sounds more like a monitor issue.
[01:14] <K1rk> derek-g: If you just do CTRL+ALT+F1 and then do CTRL+ALT+F7 or F8 (don't restart ligthdm, just switch off the GUI to TTY and back to GUI) does that also resolve the issue?  Maybe restarting lightdm isn't what's actually fixing it, maybe going to TTY is fixing it.
[01:14] <faryshta> expunge, K1rk got it, it wasthere but i needed root permissions to see it
[01:15] <derek-g> K1rk, no. I think I dfound a bug: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1313539
[01:15] <K1rk> faryshta: Ah, yeah, you will.
[01:16] <finrod> I just asked the hardware room which is the best program for monitoring my desktop PC's health, temperature and processes.  So far, my sources say Htop, Im_sensors and desert_eagle, but which is the best for an old desktop PC running ubuntu?
[01:16] <K1rk> derek-g: weird.
[01:16] <K1rk> finrod: htop doesn't monitor temp I don't think?
[01:17] <K1rk> finrod: What do you mean exactly by "monitor" also?
[01:17] <K1rk> If you want to receive alerts you'll want to look at something like Nagios or Opsview
[01:17] <expunge> faryshta: it was in /var/log/, I know =)
[01:17] <finrod> Yeah, it's just a task manager, so may be I don't need Htop.  May be ubuntu already has a task manager.  I have no idea.
[01:18] <faryshta> someone know howto configure dnsmasq? i am trying that *.faryshta.local answers on <IP_ADDRESS> but i haven't been able to do it
[01:18] <K1rk> finrod: What exactly are you trying to look at?
[01:19] <K1rk> finrod: Munin is a nice tool for trending CPU usage, memory usage, number of processes, bandwidth usage, etc -- over time.  Maybe this is what you are looking for?
[01:20] <sveinse> faryshta: .local domain is very commonly assigned to DNS-SD (dns service discovery) in the avahi service (aka zeroconf or bonjour)
[01:20] <K1rk> Munin can probably do processor temps and stuff too if you install lm_sensors and do a plugin, but I haven't done it.
[01:20] <rww> I'd go with munin + its lm-sensors plugin. It's what I use.
[01:20] <K1rk> rww: Ah nice I figured it had a plugin.
[01:20] <faryshta> sveinse, ok how do i do it?
[01:20] <finrod> I noticed when I opened up my PC, it's got all kinds of hardware jammed in together really close and it felt pretty hot, so I suspect I may be running it too long for the fan to handle that heat
[01:21] <K1rk> Fans are cheap
[01:21] <K1rk> And just because it feels hot doesn't mean the temp isn't safe
[01:21] <sveinse> faryshta: Well, you don't. Avahi look up the .local name on you local network and replies any found matches. AFAIK you can't make it reply looback addresses
[01:22] <K1rk> finrod: Probably a good idea to just check some of your readings and see what the temps are and check what's safe for your hardware.
[01:22] <faryshta> sveinse, then why ping app.faryshta.local send error?
[01:22] <K1rk> finrod: Trending over time with Munin certainly wouldn't be bad, you could see if it is getting hotter over time
[01:23] <finrod> The fan is really loud but probably doing a good job
[01:23] <sveinse> faryshta: ...if avahi is in use in the first place. How to configure dnsmasq is out of my knowledge, unfortunately
[01:23] <faryshta> sveinse, ok how do i put avahi on use in 14.04?
[01:23] <K1rk> finrod: What components are you most concerned about in this rig?  Generally hard drives and processors are what will have thermal sensors.
[01:24] <K1rk> finrod: smartmontools can tell you the current temp of your hard drive if it supports SMART, it can also tell you how hot it has ever been.
[01:24] <sveinse> faryshta: How would that help you? What are you trying to do with avahi?
[01:24] <faryshta> sveinse, what i am trying to do is that *.faryshta.local answers on <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:24] <faryshta> sveinse, if you say i can do it with avahi the question is how
[01:25] <K1rk> finrod: You may find this link useful.  http://technicalworldforyou.blogspot.com/2013/05/monitor-you-cpu-and-harddisk.html
[01:25] <finrod> thanks a lot Kirk
[01:26] <sveinse> faryshta: No, avahi can look your machin up on your lan and give you your LAN addr, but it would never give you your loopback addr
[01:26] <K1rk> np finlstrm
[01:26] <K1rk> *np finrod
[01:27] <faryshta> sveinse, ok then do you know how to do what i need?
[01:27] <sveinse> faryshta: Nope. And frankly I dont see why
[01:29] <ampy> goddamn there's a lot of people here
[01:29] <K1rk> lol
[01:31] <ampy> So let's say I deleted unity_support_test from my system. Anywhere I can download that?
[01:31]  * K1rk realizes how much of a Debian person he has become
[01:33] <puff> Hi, I'm trying to get sketchup working on ubuntu 14.
[01:33] <OerHeks> !find unity_support_test
[01:34] <puff> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8192773/
[01:34] <OerHeks> reinstall nux tools
[01:34] <puff> But apt is telling me if I install wine1.7, I'll uninstalls smbclient, which cups-client recommends... how important is smbclient?
[01:34] <ampy> yeah I got nux tools thanks
[01:35] <K1rk> puff: Are you connecting to any Windows machines?
[01:35] <OerHeks> ampy, so how did you remove unity_support_test anyway?
[01:35] <ampy> rm unity_support_test
[01:35] <K1rk> ampy: .... why?
[01:35] <ampy> it kept saying "unexpected ")"" when I ran it
[01:36] <ampy> and I couldn't actually look at it because it was encoded in zimbabwean or something
[01:38] <ampy> So just a general poll - did everyone else have to do a bit of tweaking after upgrading to 14?
[01:38] <ampy> There were several system errors I had to personally resolve.
[01:38] <sakamop> Hi. With multiple machines, is there some kind of way of setting up a centralised repo mirror so that everyone doesn't have to download updates separately?
[01:39] <expunge> sakamop: no doubt
[01:39] <ampy> Do you already have a repo?
[01:40] <ampy> I think it's the same as setting up any other repository, but don't quote me on that.
[01:40] <sakamop> ampy: expunge I meant the main Ubuntu mirror.
[01:40] <ampy> oh
[01:40] <expunge> sakamop: http://www.unixmen.com/setup-local-repository-ubuntu-14-0413-1013-04-server/
[01:41] <sakamop> expunge: Thanks.
[01:42] <OerHeks> i'd love to run my own mirror, how much space would that take?
[01:43] <expunge> OerHeks: for everything, or just the packages you use?
[01:44] <K1rk> sakamop: You're trying to save bandwidth I assume?
[01:44] <OerHeks> expunge, complete 32/64 bit repos, 50 gb?
[01:45] <vadi> I've got a dualmonitor setup, and games keep seeing the wrong monitor as the primary monitor. I'm on nvidia proprietary drivers. Is there any fix for this?
[01:45] <Beldar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Rsyncmirror
[01:45] <K1rk> Ah it looks like sakamop left.
[01:45] <K1rk> One thing my old work did, with a great success, was we set up a reverse proxy with caching enabled of us.archive.ubuntu.com with Squid on an internal server, and redirected traffic using internal DNS
[01:46] <K1rk> Saved a lot of bandwidth and didn't require a full mirror or any administrative attention ever
[01:46] <K1rk> I think we allocated like 20GB of space and configured Squid to cache anything up to 500MB or something
[01:46] <K1rk> And it took care of itself
[01:47] <ampy> goddammit
[01:47] <expunge> OerHeks: is it? That sounds low
[01:47] <ampy> someone explain this : http://postimg.org/image/ym1lqvlpz/
[01:47] <ampy> there's a bunch of files that have this "unexpected ")"" thing going on
[01:48] <expunge> OerHeks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors 642? =)
[01:48] <expunge> ampy: 'sh' is not bash on ubuntu
[01:48] <OerHeks> Beldar, expunge thanks, 600 gb+
[01:48] <expunge> ampy: try using 'bash'
[01:49] <expunge> or re-alias 'sh'
[01:49] <OerHeks> but that would do all versions, not only 14.04 i guess
[01:49] <expunge> although that would probably give you problems with people assuming sh on Ubuntu is what it ordinarily is =P
[01:50] <OerHeks> !language | ampy
[01:50] <expunge> ampy: what's that wallpaper?
[01:50] <ampy> errr I've used sh before with no problems but bash gives me "cannot execute binary file" - mayhaps it's missing an extension? should just be your ordinary executable
[01:50] <ampy> ah the wallpaper is just some cool art I found online
[01:50] <ampy> don't know the artist, sorry
[01:50] <ampy> but I have more
[01:50] <ampy> could upload it later
[01:51] <PP5JEB> wine
[01:55] <expunge> ampy: I can find it, if you show it to me =P
[01:57] <ampy> find what?
[01:57] <ampy> btw those walls http://www.4shared.com/archive/z48EWthXce/wallztar.html
[01:59] <Apteryx> Hello! I'm trying to configure custom options for my mouse under /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/90-logitech.conf
[01:59] <Apteryx> The configuration works when I'm on the login screen (lightdm) of Ubuntu.
[01:59] <Apteryx> But as soon as I login, the configuration is reset...
[02:00] <ampy> did you just edit the conf file? you didn't try the mouse gui?
[02:00] <expunge> eh, too lazy to create a fake account just to download something =P
[02:00] <ampy> oh where's a good place to upload stuff
[02:00] <Apteryx> ampy: What I want to achieve is not available via the GUI
[02:01] <raydecampo> I'm having an issue with the password collection screen after the system has been locked and I am trying to figure out which package to write the bug against
[02:01] <Apteryx> ampy: I have 2 mouses connected, and I want to change the buttons mapping of just one of them.
[02:01] <expunge> mice =)
[02:01] <Apteryx> It seems udev detects the mouse two times
[02:02] <Apteryx> One time at the login screen, and another time after the login is processed.
[02:02] <expunge> raydecampo: what issue
[02:02] <Apteryx> And the configuration is lost at the second detection.
[02:02] <Apteryx> Could well be a bug.
[02:02] <ampy> I've had that problem before Apteryx
[02:02] <michael_> Hello All I have just had a motherboard failure and have move my hard drive from amd64 system to intel core 2 system everything appears to be working but just wondering about change my software sources or current packages that are installed for my old system
[02:02] <ampy> I don't know how to solve it, unfortunately
[02:02] <raydecampo> expunge: the textfield for the password is sometimes missing making difficult to log in
[02:03] <expunge> michael_: your higher level software won't care
[02:03] <expunge> michael_: you might want to tweak your lower level hardware driver type stuff
[02:03] <expunge> or potentially not =)
[02:03] <expunge> raydecampo: missing?
[02:04] <raydecampo> expunge: right, there's nothing to type in.  I can sometimes get around it via ctrl-alt-f7 or -f8 or in a pinch -f1 and either log out other users or restart lightdm
[02:04] <OerHeks> michael_, i would run updates to see what happens
[02:04] <michael_> expunge, ok cheers how do i check what might be need is there a guide online I can look at
[02:05] <ampy> apt-get update?
[02:05] <michael_> OerHeks, it wants to install amd64 packages
[02:06] <sydney> for some reason ubuntu randomly started treating my front audio port like my back one. how to fix?
[02:06] <raydecampo> expunge: I'd use ubuntu-bug to generate a bug report but I don't have a GUI when the issue arises
[02:06] <Basketball> how can i recover a perminate deleted file it was either a .docx or .doc it was in my downloaded folder and idk the name of it
[02:06] <roasted> hello friends
[02:06] <OerHeks> michael_, that is fine amd64 invented the hybrid 32+64 bit processor
[02:06] <Apteryx> ampy: ok! The Xorg.0.log has seems to have something to say about it, but I couldn't decryt the meaning of it. I've copied the part of it related to the Logitech mouse here: http://pastebin.com/Abnu5iyY
[02:06] <puff> K1rk: Not connecting to any windows machines, but to a printer.
[02:06] <ampy> sydney do you use pulse?
[02:06] <Basketball> OerHeks, how can i recover a perminate deleted file it was either a .docx or .doc it was in my downloaded folder and idk the name of it
[02:06] <ampy> or what?
[02:06] <roasted> Is anybody having issues with appindicator1 lately? It keeps asking me when I log in if I want to install it. I see that dropbox, owncloud, etc is missing as there is no appindicator installed. Trick is, if I install it, it removes chrome....??
[02:07] <puff> K1rk: I'm using an hp photosmart 6520 wireless printer.
[02:07] <eeee> Basketball: try testdisk
[02:07] <Basketball> eeee,  how
[02:07] <OerHeks> Basketball, not i guess, you could try a forensic tool like testdisk
[02:07] <expunge> michael_: that is, intel core is 'amd64' arch
[02:07] <eeee> Basketball: sudo apt-get install testdisk
[02:08] <Basketball> eeee,  ok how do i use it
[02:08] <eeee> Basketball: was the filesystem ntfs or fat ?
[02:08] <OerHeks> i would not install something on the drive that lost a doc
[02:08] <sydney> ampy: yes,but it only shows 1 output.
[02:08] <Basketball> eeee,  idk
[02:08] <Apteryx> ampy: I'll remove my custom .conf in xorg.conf.d and see if the errors in Xorg.0.log go away. If so... I'll report a bug.
[02:08] <eeee> Basketball: was it a drive you use on windows or linux ?
[02:08] <Basketball> linux
[02:08] <raydecampo> Basketball: install it from a live disk - stop using the disk with the data asap
[02:09] <Basketball> i only have one dive
[02:09] <Basketball> raydecampo,  i deleted it 3 hours ago
[02:10] <eeee> Basketball: sudo testdisk, then select don't log, then select the drive, press enter when it says the partition type,
[02:10] <ampy> yeah apteryx I looked at the error message and it's a perl thing, has to do with erroneous code
[02:10] <eeee> then quick search, when you see your partition press p to view the files, then c to copy them
[02:10] <michael_> expunge, ok cool thanks for your help have a great day
[02:10] <michael_> :)
[02:10] <ampy> maybe you messed up your syntax while editing the conf file
[02:11] <eeee> Basketball: or C , i forgot
[02:11] <michael_> OerHeks, cheers :)
[02:11] <raydecampo> expunge: do you think the missing password textfield fall under lightdm, unity or unity-greeter?
[02:11] <michael_> Bye for now all
[02:11] <Basketball> eeee,  do i do analysis geometry or etc
[02:11] <eeee> no
[02:11] <Basketball> eeee,  which do i select
[02:11] <eeee> Basketball: select analyse
[02:12] <Apteryx> ampy: Possible. Are you good at this? Would you mind taking a quick look?
[02:12] <ampy> sydney this sounds dumb but did you restart? also mess around with recording applications like audacity, look at all the monitors, see where all inputs and outputs go, reinstall pulse, i dunno man there's a lot of guesswork involved
[02:12] <expunge> raydecampo: I think there are people on bug trackers who fix miscategorized things
[02:12] <Basketball> eeee,  quick serch or backup
[02:12] <ampy> apteryx: oh perl is all greek to me, that's just what google-fu came up with
[02:12] <eeee> Basketball: quick search
[02:13] <raydecampo> expunge: Yeah if I couldn't find someone who knew tonight I was just going to write it against something and hope for the best
[02:13] <Basketball> deeper search or write
[02:13] <Basketball> and should i have selected swamp
[02:13] <eeee> deeper search
[02:13] <eeee> no
[02:13] <Basketball> ok good i didnt
[02:13] <OerHeks> Basketball, my experience is: testdisk finds direct the files that are recoverable, or not.
[02:13] <ampy> apteryx: btw the information came from here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1605195/inappropriate-ioctl-for-device
[02:14] <OerHeks> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[02:14] <Apteryx> ampy: for reference, here's my /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/90-logitech-mouse.conf: http://pastebin.com/rS5FmWwQ
[02:14] <eeee> Basketball: my experience with testdisk is that if it's fat it's recoverable, ext4 ... not always
[02:15] <expunge> my experience is... oh wait I keep backups =)
[02:15] <eeee> expunge: lol
[02:15] <ampy> apteryx: formatting error?  What led you to perl?
[02:16] <Basketball> eeee,  it is doinf analysis cylinder
[02:16] <eeee> Basketball: what
[02:16] <eeee> Basketball: testdisk isn't to mess around with
[02:17] <volt> Sup pl0x
[02:17] <eeee> Basketball: did you press stop ?
[02:17] <Basketball> eeee, i just closed it
[02:17] <eeee> ok,
[02:17] <Basketball> eeee,  whatever i will start over
[02:18] <eeee> ok,
[02:18] <ampy> Inappropriate ioctl is a peperl error messagerpl
[02:18] <eeee> if it doesn't find it in the quick search
[02:18] <eeee> then deep search, it'll show up, then press stop
[02:18] <eeee> ( should show up )
[02:19] <eeee> then press p to view the files
[02:20] <volt_> join #help
[02:20] <Basketball> eeee,  on quick search i see my patiton no files though
[02:20] <eeee> are you sure it's your partition ?
[02:20] <eeee> you mentioned swap earlier ?
[02:21] <Basketball>  Linux                    0  32 33 14333 114 53  230264832
[02:21] <Basketball> 1 * Linux                    0  32 33 14333 114 53  230264832
[02:21] <Basketball>  2 P Linux Swap           14333 147 23 14593  65 48    4171760
[02:21] <eeee> ok and when you press p over Linux what happens
[02:22] <Basketball> eeee,  how do i get to linux my tab keys only move to quit and deep search andwrite
[02:23] <eeee> up and down
[02:23] <Basketball> eeee,  does noting
[02:23] <eeee> Basketball: i see, press deeper search
[02:23] <eeee> if it comes up press p
[02:23] <eeee> if you want i think you should try something else
[02:23] <Basketball> eeee,  if what comes up
[02:23] <eeee> if the partition comes up
[02:24] <eeee> press q, until you reach the drive selection
[02:24] <Jpmh> what is the simplest way to cause a script to be executed at the end of startup?
[02:24] <eeee> select the drive, this time select intel if you didn't before
[02:25] <netlar> Is there some utility that will change the close button behavior in Unity?
[02:25] <volt> /etc/init.d?
[02:25] <eeee> Jpmh: /etc/rc.local if you need root privileges, /etc/profile otherwise
[02:26] <eeee> netlar: look into ubuntu-tweak and compiz
[02:26] <eeee> Basketball: after selecting the drive, select intel if you hadn't before
[02:27] <Jpmh> eeee: isn't /etc/profile done when users sign on rather than when the system comes up?
[02:27] <Jpmh> volt: suspect that is what I want, I will check out the documentation
[02:28] <netlar> eeee: I heard Ubuntu-tweak is not good
[02:28] <volt> What IDLE is preferred?
[02:28] <eeee> try compiz
[02:29] <Basketball> eeee,  i see the file i pressed c to copy how do i paste it
[02:29] <volt> IDE*
[02:29] <eeee> it should ask you where to copy to
[02:29] <Basketball> Directory /home/harris/Downloads
[02:29] <Basketball> Copy done!
[02:29] <Basketball> i dont see it in downloads
[02:30] <eeee> Basketball: that's where it was copied from, not to
[02:31] <eeee> after you press c, it asks you to select the destination
[02:31] <Basketball> eeee,  i will jsust start over
[02:31] <cfhowlett> netlar, depends what you consider "good".  It does make it quite easy to do some micro-level tweaking that is normally well hidden.  Also makes it easy to break micro-level stuff because it's normally well-hidden.
[02:31] <eeee> it's ok
[02:31] <eeee> no
[02:31] <eeee> Basketball: just press q
[02:31] <Basketball> eeee,  i quit it already
[02:31] <netlar> cfhowlett: Just do not want to make the system unstable
[02:33]  * jelmd wonders, wether hands-off installation of ubuntu is possible at all …
[02:33] <rww> you do the same thing you do with any other OS: install it on one machine, then multicast image it out to the other machines
[02:34] <cfhowlett> netlar, somehow, I've managed to live without it but - YMMV
[02:34] <netlar> cfhowlett: Think I am trying to make it like OSX
[02:35] <jelmd> rww: I meant installation, not doing stupid things
[02:36] <netlar> cfhowlett: The launcher minimizes too, not that bad, the Launcher does lots of cool things anyway
[02:36] <sydney> fixed :)
[02:36] <cfhowlett> netlar, I've got the wallpapers from OSX snow leopard and lion.  easy to set them up.  Also discovered that the theme.packs from win7 can be extracted for use. BUT I still use mostly stock ubuntu studio
[02:37] <netlar> cfhowlett: I do like the look of Unity
[02:37] <netlar> cfhowlett: Just changed Icons to Elementary ones
[02:38] <rolleiflex> another hour, another packaging question
[02:38] <rolleiflex> I'm releasing my own app as deb
[02:38] <cfhowlett> netlar, I do have one tasty background wallpaper that you might like = Ray Traced ubuntulogo on dark background.  Would you acccept a DCC?
[02:38] <rolleiflex> is there a recommended location to put the application binaries on ubuntu / debian?
[02:39] <rolleiflex> I couldn't find anything, I think everybody thinks it to be obvious, but I have no idea, so...
[02:39] <netlar> cfhowlett: DCC?
[02:39] <eeee> rolleiflex: you mean you're own applications?
[02:39] <cfhowlett> netlar, file transfer via IRC.  I just sent the offer, but it won't transfer without your approval.
[02:39] <rolleiflex> eeee: no, I mean the application I develop
[02:40] <rolleiflex> (www.getaether.net)
[02:40] <eeee> rolleiflex: you can have a ~/bin and put stuff there, and it'll be added to your path on startup
[02:40] <netlar> cfhowlett: I am in irssi
[02:40] <rolleiflex> I am releasing a linux version
[02:40] <cfhowlett> netlar, or get it from my spreadubuntu    http://spreadubuntu.org/en/users/cfhowlett
[02:40] <volt> rolleiflex: add in into bin
[02:40] <rolleiflex> ~/bin or /bin?
[02:40] <eeee> rolleiflex: well, apps go to /usr/bin usually
[02:41] <rolleiflex> ok, this is a locally installed app, so wouldn't usr/bin make it available to all users
[02:41] <eeee> rolleiflex: yes it would
[02:42] <rolleiflex> eeee: I see. thanks. I'd rather use ~/bin then
[02:42] <netlar> cfhowlett: I have been having trouble with some wallpapers
[02:42] <rolleiflex> another question I have is, is there a way to add this application to startup, if the user selects it from the user settings?
[02:42] <netlar> cfhowlett: Most work ok, but some will not show up on the lock screen, just the orange background
[02:43] <rolleiflex> I know how to add it from the command line, but I was wondering if there was a 'startup' folder to which I can drop my startup file, and remove as prompted
[02:43] <rolleiflex> like windows or os x launchd
[02:43] <sydney> What of the 3 versions of mp4 is the 'normal' one?
[02:44] <eeee> rolleiflex: well, for the user, you could write to ~/.profile i guess
[02:44] <pfsense_rookie> rolleiflex, shouldn't there be an application called startup?
[02:44] <cfhowlett> netlar, I'm on xubuntu.  tried to set up a customized wallpaper folder, but the system kept reverting to the system folder.  Finally, I sudo cp'd my custom wallpapers to the system wallpaper folder.  problem solved.
[02:44] <eeee> rolleiflex: not sure if there's a better way
[02:44] <pfsense_rookie> rolleiflex, on your system I mean.
[02:44] <rolleiflex> pfsense_rookie: I don't use linux GUI very much, care to explain more?
[02:45] <rolleiflex> eeee: I'll try that, thanks
[02:45] <eeee> np
[02:45] <rolleiflex> btw, there is no ~/bin on my machine
[02:45] <volt> rolleiflex: it's called startup applications
[02:45] <eeee> rolleiflex: yeah, you have to mkdir it
[02:45] <pfsense_rookie> rolleiflex, nevermind then.
[02:45] <rolleiflex> ah I see, thanks
[02:46] <rolleiflex> volt yes, how do I add my entry there, programmatically?
[02:46] <eeee> rolleiflex: is this app for ubuntu?
[02:46] <rolleiflex> eeee: yes, I am releasing on ubuntu first
[02:46] <rolleiflex> for the rest of the distros I'll provide the binaries only
[02:47] <volt> rolleiflex: haven't used it before though. I suppose you add in the path to script etc
[02:47] <eeee> ok cool, was going to tell you i'm not sure all distros check if theres a ~/bin and add to the path, ( btw ~/.profile checks if the bin is there and adds it )
[02:48] <rolleiflex> yeah, I guess that's the way it goes
[02:48] <rolleiflex> I'm pretty sure there is a way to access it programmatically but I don't know how to do that
[02:50] <eeee> rolleiflex: ~/.config/autostart
[02:50] <eeee> just googled it
[02:50] <rolleiflex> eeee: thanks! I ended up with that too it seems
[02:50] <eeee> you have to add a .desktop file
[02:50] <rolleiflex> I have that desktop file, yeah
[02:51] <rolleiflex> I think it goes to ~/.local/share/applications as per debian
[02:51] <rolleiflex> but what I discovered is wherever you put this file works
[02:51] <rolleiflex> so that's good, thanks
[02:51] <ampy> whoa
[02:52] <eeee> np
[02:52] <volt> What is everyone up to?
[02:54] <SchrodingersScat> !ot | volt
[02:54] <volt> oops
[02:58] <Guest42281> hubba hubba
[02:58] <luks1> hello
[03:05] <royalaxe> hello all, does anyone know of a url where there are heaps of useful scripts for ubuntu?
[03:07] <OerHeks> royalaxe, https://launchpad.net/projects/+index?text=script
[03:08] <royalaxe> thankyou OerHeks
[03:09] <Wonderfulheart> Buon giorno a tutti!
[03:09] <cfhowlett> !it | Wonderfulheart
[03:09] <royalaxe> mate, fantastic, that link is the ducks nuts
[03:09] <Wonderfulheart> Good morning at all!
[03:10] <royalaxe> hello Wonderfulheart
[03:10] <Wonderfulheart> Hi!
[03:14] <favonian_> I used to date a guy named Ubuntu.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass!
[03:14] <favonian_> I used to date a guy named Ubuntu.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass!!
[03:14] <favonian_> I used to date a guy named Ubuntu.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass!!!
[03:14] <favonian_> I used to date a guy named Ubuntu.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass!!!!
[03:14] <favonian_> I used to date a guy named Ubuntu.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass!!!!!
[03:14] <favonian_> I used to date a guy named Ubuntu.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass!!!!!!
[03:14] <unopaste> favonian_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[03:15] <hephaestus|rgweb> hello, could someone help me fix my packet loss? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8184798/
[03:15] <favonian_> I used to date a guy named Ubuntu.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass!!!!!!!
[03:15] <favonian_> I used to date a guy named Ubuntu.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass!!!!!!!!
[03:16] <hephaestus|rgweb> for the driver, it says b43-pci-bridge
[03:17] <hephaestus|rgweb> it's a bcm4311 rev 01 (b/g only)
[03:17] <zerothis> how would one install android x86 using chroot under ubuntu?
[03:18] <rww> the same way you'd install it using chroot on any other OS, I expect
[03:18] <rww> s/OS/distro/
[03:19] <zerothis> rww: so how's that? I've never installed another distro using chroot
[03:19] <cicero_> Boa noite povâo
[03:19] <rww> zerothis: no idea, go ask the android x86 folks
[03:19] <cicero_> estou precisando esclarecer uma duvida
[03:20] <rww> ubottu: pt | cicero_
[03:21] <hephaestus|rgweb> any wifi experts around?
[03:22] <rww> zerothis: (who appear to live at #android-x86)
[03:25] <cicero_> ubottu : tem ninguém la cara
[03:26] <rww> cicero_: nevertheless, we speak English here.
[03:26] <cicero_> kkkk
[03:26] <cicero_> de boa
[03:26] <zerothis> rww: thanks
[03:28] <OerHeks> hephaestus|rgweb, this used to be the trick on 12.04, maybe it applies for you too > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1997880&page=10&p=13016117#post13016117
[03:50] <hephaestus|rgweb> OerHeks: didn't work
[03:50] <john_doe_jr> I'm using the dd command to transfer some data and and I wanted to know what the error message is "Device not configured" …do u know what that means?
[04:01] <z9999999> hello cyber?
[04:05] <CreeLux> has anyone here run into odd issues while trying to install the latest from cd onto a solid state drive?
[04:06] <cfhowlett> !anyone
[04:18] <aceanimations> d
[04:19] <z9999999> cyberjunkie i am here
[04:21] <rawfodog> im trying to install something on ubuntu server but im getting this error http://pastebin.com/MSGMTnYu
[04:23] <hunesco> hello
[04:24] <K1rk> Hello hunesco, can we help you with something?
[04:24] <hunesco> i hope yes K1rk
[04:24] <hunesco> i am runing one ubuntu server
[04:24] <K1rk> Go ahead and just ask your question hunesco
[04:24] <hunesco> and i like know how download rtmp files
[04:24] <hunesco> streaming files
[04:24] <hunesco> maybe command line or program
[04:25] <SchrodingersScat> !info rtmpdump | hunesco
[04:25] <hunesco> Internet Download Manager get this files in windows, but i have no win in ubuntu by wine
[04:25] <SchrodingersScat> hunesco: but mileage may vary
[04:25] <K1rk> hunesco: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1024632/rtmp-is-there-such-a-linux-command-line-tool
[04:26] <hunesco> i try rtmpdump, but i dont know make the magic begins
[04:26] <hunesco> :(
[04:26] <SchrodingersScat> that mplayer way is new to me, might be worth a try
[04:27] <deddokatana> https://wiki.videolan.org/VLC_command-line_help
[04:27] <deddokatana> worth a look..
[04:28] <hunesco> hm
[04:28] <hunesco> rtmpdump -r rtmplink -o /home
[04:28] <hunesco> returns >
[04:28] <hunesco> INFO: Connected...
[04:28] <hunesco> -o: command not found
[04:28] <hunesco> root@ns308459:~# ERROR: Closing connection: NetStream.Failed
[04:37] <russ5811> can anyone help me setup my 2nd HDD to auto mount at start? Having trouble with fstab
[04:38] <K1rk> russ5811: Sure fstab is not too bad
[04:38] <K1rk> russ5811: What is the dev path to the new drive?
[04:38] <K1rk> (eg. /dev/sdX#)
[04:38] <russ5811> one sec kirk
[04:39] <russ5811> dev/sdb
[04:39] <K1rk> What partition number on sdb?
[04:39] <russ5811> sorry dev/sdb1
[04:39] <K1rk> ok
[04:39] <K1rk> So you should be able to mount like
[04:39] <K1rk> /dev/sdb1    /path/to/mountpoint    auto     errors=remount-ro     1     1
[04:39] <K1rk> Then once you add that to fstab you can just run "mount /path/to/mountpoint" to test it.
[04:40] <K1rk> Mount will attempt to read the fstab
[04:40] <K1rk> If mount throws an error you can go from there.
[04:40] <russ5811> yes. i found something similar. can i show you what i did. b/c i get an error at boot
[04:40] <K1rk> sure
[04:40] <Ghost1227> Yay! Just published my first indicator applet
[04:41] <K1rk> :)
[04:42] <russ5811> K1rk, did i do the pm correctly?
[04:42] <Ghost1227> Ironically, writing the applet was the easy part... packaging it was the hard part >_<
[04:43] <K1rk> russ5811: yeah
[04:45] <raghumdani> internet works fine in ubuntu but not in windows... any suggestions?
[04:48] <meganerd> don't use Windows
[04:49] <meganerd> raghumdani: there are any number of things that could be wrong, might want to ask around in a Windows channel
[04:51] <meganerd> anyone here tried standing up a MAAS network fromthe 14.4 install?
[04:55] <SecretFire> I installed a new internal sata drive, and now grub won't load anymore i have to press f12 to boot from my other hard drive, how do I fix this?
[04:58] <russ5811> anyone available for some fstab auto mount help
[05:00] <meganerd> sure
[05:01] <Basketball> is anyone here good with rtcwake and crontab
[05:03] <russ5811> can anyone help with an fstab problem
[05:04] <clumsy_bot> SecretFire, You installed a new drive and it just refused to boot after that?
[05:04] <SecretFire> clumsy_bot, no it boots when i go to the bios boot menu but grub should come up without me having to do that, i don't think it is listed in fstab
[05:05] <clumsy_bot> SecretFire, Hmm, that's a little beyond my expertise.
[05:05] <denn> hi
[05:05] <meganerd> SecretFire: I would look at the disk boot order in your bios
[05:06] <meganerd> SecretFire: also, sudo update-grub might help.
[05:06] <SecretFire> meganerd : thats a good idea
[05:06] <denn> just intalled kubuntu 14.05
[05:06] <clumsy_bot> SecretFire, If I had problems with GRUB, I'd always assume that something happened to the partition or where GRUB was loaded. If it's just a matter of it not seeing your drive, update-grub should help.
[05:06] <clumsy_bot> I had my fair share of GRUB problems, but it was mostly my own carelessness and removing GRUB hastily.
[05:06] <denn> I am new to linux
[05:07] <clumsy_bot> denn, Do you need help with something in particular?
[05:07] <denn> just looking for tips on using it?
[05:08] <clumsy_bot> denn, Well I'm not exactly very experienced myself. I just jumped ship 2 ~ 3 months ago.
[05:08] <denn> tired of windows virus's
[05:08] <clumsy_bot> denn, I hope you've got lots of spare time and a keen sense of interest in reading documentation. That's where you'll find what you need the most.
[05:08] <clumsy_bot> denn, If you are interested in learning the ins-and-outs of Linux, there's a course of EdX by the Linux Foundation.
[05:09] <russ5811> meganerd, i've added the following to my fstab /dev/sdb1 /plex/russ5811/HDD auto errors=remount-ro 1 1 then i unmounted, mounted, then i get a message saying ./plex/russ5811/HDD does not exist
[05:09] <denn> well I am somewhat familiar with linux command line and terminal
[05:09] <clumsy_bot> denn, LFS101x Introduction to Linux is the name of the course.
[05:09] <denn> as I run 2 vps servers on linux
[05:10] <clumsy_bot> denn, Well then perhaps you could read up on just the package manager syntax and how to upkeep the system. It shouldn't be hard for Ubuntu.
[05:11] <denn> jut not sure on the desktop side of linux
[05:11] <clumsy_bot> denn, I spent the last months distro-hopping. I went from Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, Manjaro, and back to Ubuntu.
[05:11] <clumsy_bot> denn, There's not much difference I believe. Since you're using Ubuntu and not some rolling-release like Arch or Debian Unstable, the risks of the system breaking a minimal.
[05:12] <clumsy_bot> denn, Perhaps if you're interested in installing proprietary drivers, you'd have to type a few commands to replace xorg.conf. Other than that, I think what you got from the VPS servers should be enough.
[05:12] <denn> ok i will play around and get my drivers installed
[05:14] <clumsy_bot> denn, You've always got the forums and Google by your side.
[05:14] <samthewildone> I have a problem with playing dvds on my laptop. When I play the same movie on my desktop it works
[05:14] <clumsy_bot> denn, Have fun, and good luck.
[05:14] <denn> i was hoping kubuntu had a similar start menu system to windows
[05:14] <meganerd> russ5811: I would base it on the UUID instead
[05:14] <denn> ok thank
[05:14] <meganerd> russ5811: ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid
[05:14] <clumsy_bot> denn, I believe you should look into System settings. But if you really wanted an experience similar to Windows, perhaps take a look at Zorin OS.
[05:14] <meganerd> russ5811:  then in the fstab start with UUID=<UUID>
[05:15] <lrcaballero> denn: try Lubuntu
[05:15] <clumsy_bot> denn, http://zorin-os.com/
[05:15] <meganerd> russ5811: that way it will work even if the drives are re-ordered or plugged in later
[05:15] <denn> i jut put zorin on my desktop a a dual boot to win 7
[05:15] <clumsy_bot> denn, Oh, how was it? You didn't like it?
[05:15] <lrcaballero> denn: or install cinnamon DE
[05:15] <meganerd> russ5811: though that error is stating that the mount point does not exist
[05:16] <clumsy_bot> denn, Linux Mint would be up your alley if you wanted Cinnamon DE.
[05:16] <denn> i love it, im testing other linux version out on my laptop
[05:16] <russ5811> meganerd, i've been on ubuntu for a few years, but am new to this level of editing. would you mind telling me the lines i need to put in fstab? i think you've given me the code to find the uuid, but am not sure how to make it unique once that is found. am i making sense?
[05:16] <Andrea> hola
[05:17] <lrcaballero> Hola Andrea
[05:17] <meganerd> russ5811: when you look in the /dev/disk/by-uuid directory, you will see a sym-link to the physical device, copy the name of that symlink (looks like hex with dashes), then in the fstab instead of specifying the device name, use the uuid, starting with UUID=
[05:17] <denn> ubuntu 12.04 i what i run my VP' on and I added desktop and love that
[05:18] <meganerd> russ5811: your root is probably setup this way already
[05:18] <clumsy_bot> denn, Glad to hear you're enjoying your experience.
[05:18] <denn> sorry vps*
[05:18] <denn> thanks
[05:18] <russ5811> meganerd, so i should just copy the lines used for root but change the uuid...correct?
[05:19] <denn> I want to get to the point where I can dump windows
[05:19] <meganerd> russ5811: yup, and the mount point as well
[05:20] <denn> but I will go through the settings on kubuntu and ee what I can do
[05:20] <clumsy_bot> denn, Depends on what you require from Windows.
[05:20] <clumsy_bot> denn, Anything in particular? Work applications and so on?
[05:21] <denn> not alot but there are a few programs I still need, I ue wine and run some stuff from windows.
[05:22] <clumsy_bot> denn, Well if speed isn't much of a concern, I've heard that some people use a VirtualBox on their *nix machines.
[05:22] <denn> mostly Games now, I almost have halo working, I need video driver lol
[05:22] <clumsy_bot> denn, I'm just a student, so I can get by with a lot of the 'free/libre' applications.
[05:22] <samthewildone> um can someone help me ?
[05:22] <clumsy_bot> denn, Are you running an AMD or nVidia card on your system?
[05:22] <clumsy_bot> samthewildone, What's up?
[05:23] <samthewildone> clumsy_bot, dvd on laptop not playing dvds
[05:23] <denn> tyes AMD CPU and nvida video
[05:23] <samthewildone> put in the same dvd into my desktop and works
[05:23] <clumsy_bot> samthewildone, Have you tried installing the ubuntu-restricted-extras package?
[05:23] <samthewildone> I tried everything
[05:23] <samthewildone> went to google and still nothing
[05:23] <samthewildone> install ibdvdcss 4... this and that
[05:23] <clumsy_bot> samthewildone, ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[05:24] <samthewildone> yes'\
[05:24] <clumsy_bot> denn, nVidia's proprietary drivers are nice, much nicer than the AMD ones I get...
[05:24] <clumsy_bot> samthewildone, Well, you could always install VLC Player?
[05:24] <samthewildone> did that
[05:24] <clumsy_bot> samthewildone, Still doesn't work?
[05:24] <samthewildone> the video seems like it loads then dosn't
[05:24] <samthewildone> nope
[05:25] <clumsy_bot> samthewildone, The desktop is running Windows or Ubuntu?
[05:25] <denn> I will try to find the video drivers and install them
[05:25] <samthewildone> ubuntu
[05:26] <clumsy_bot> samthewildone, And this machine you're trying to setup with is a laptop?
[05:26] <samthewildone> yes
[05:26] <samthewildone> Both using the same ubuntu
[05:26] <samthewildone> both updated
[05:26] <samthewildone> both using the same dvd
[05:26] <denn> then I will keep windows on dualboot for a bit to make sure it all works
[05:26] <samthewildone> ...
[05:27] <samthewildone> my desktop works with the dvd
[05:27] <clumsy_bot> denn, Yea that would be best if you've got critical applications you need access to.
[05:27] <Karmahacker> Hi all !  Anyone can suggest something like "Firemin" but  for linux?  Thank you
[05:27] <clumsy_bot> samthewildone, Well it's most likely a codec problem. My Google search turns up for a package called 'libdvdread4'
[05:27] <denn> biggest thing is getting all my photos and such all backed up.
[05:28] <denn> hate to lose thoe
[05:28] <clumsy_bot> denn, Backup utilities for Windows are quite sketchy at best. The good ones are all commercial software.
[05:29] <interweb> Hi , I want to format my external hard drive from exFAT to FAT32 and I've looked at Ubuntu 14.04 Disks software and there is an option named "Compatable with all devices (FAT)" Does it format to FAT32 or other FAT versions ?
[05:29] <clumsy_bot> interweb, FAT32 most likely.
[05:29] <denn> yep luckily I keep organized folders of important items
[05:29] <finrod> I have an old desktop PC with an AMD Athlon 64 processor and a 466 GiB Maxtor hard drive, running Xubuntu.  I've been doing some research to figure out the best software to monitor the health of my PC
[05:29] <interweb> clumsy_bot, Are you sure ? because a full slow format takes me 14 hours :)
[05:29] <denn> tthanks for the chat good to meet you gtg cya
[05:30] <Beldar> interweb, man parted
[05:30] <clumsy_bot> denn, No probs.
[05:30] <clumsy_bot> interweb, Isn't there an option for quick-format?
[05:30] <clumsy_bot> interweb, I use Gparted for all my partitioning needs.
[05:30] <clumsy_bot> samthewildone, Well, I'm sorry I can't be of much help. Theoretically with the codecs installed, it should work.
[05:30] <finrod> I cam to the conclusion that PSensor looks the best, but I have not figured out how to install APM and ACPI using the Ubuntu Software Centre and the Synaptic Package Manager
[05:30] <Beldar> interweb, If you like a gui install gparted.
[05:30] <interweb> clumsy_bot, Yes , but I've got some bad sectors ...
[05:31] <clumsy_bot> interweb, You're wiping out the whole drive right?
[05:31] <russ5811> meganerd, as soon as i boot, i can see the hdd in my file explorer, it shows as automount in "Disks" however, plex can't see it until i click on it on the left menu of file explorer and the eject icon shows up next to it. i must be missing something.
[05:31] <interweb> clumsy_bot, yes
[05:31] <clumsy_bot> interweb, I suppose you could create a whole new partition table. MSDOS or something.
[05:32] <interweb> clumsy_bot, how  ?
[05:32] <clumsy_bot> interweb, Get Gparted first if you're new to partitioning. Even I'm afraid of using the command-line tools.
[05:33] <finrod> APM and ACPI look useful for monitoring temperatures and my PC and keyboard batteries, but I can't install them from Ubuntu Software Centre, and Synaptic Package Manager says one of them is only good for laptop PCs
[05:33] <interweb> clumsy_bot, I have it , But can'
[05:33] <interweb> can
[05:33] <interweb> can't find any extended formatting in it
[05:33] <clumsy_bot> interweb, There isn't any?
[05:33] <meganerd> russ5811: so it not mounted when you boot?
[05:34] <clumsy_bot> interweb, Odd. Let me pull up Gparted on my side.
[05:34] <russ5811> no
[05:34] <meganerd> russ5811: It should be listed when you do a "df -Th " from the command line
[05:34] <Beldar> interweb, http://gparted.org/display-doc.php?name=help-manual
[05:34] <russ5811> meganerd: it's there
[05:35] <meganerd> russ5811: after a clean boot?
[05:35] <phuh> I've only used Ubuntu as my server OS but people tell me debian is more solid than ubuntu for production server... Do you guys agree? What makes you use ubuntu over debian?
[05:35] <russ5811> i'll reboot, and let you know.
[05:35] <clumsy_bot> interweb, It's under Device
[05:35] <clumsy_bot> interweb, Device > Create Partition Table...
[05:35] <clumsy_bot> interweb, Make sure you select the right disk.
[05:36] <russ5811> meganerd: i'll reboot and let you know.
[05:36] <clumsy_bot> phuh, It's mostly because Debian allows you to have a more minimal install.
[05:37] <clumsy_bot> phuh, And mostly because Debian has got a reputation for being really stable. Ubuntu is derived from Debian's Unstable branch.
[05:37] <cfhowlett> phuh, maybe you'd like to speak to #ubuntu-server about this
[05:38] <phuh> clumsy_bot: doesn't that worry you that it's based on unstable one?
[05:38] <russ5811> meganerd: did a clean boot. it'
[05:38] <russ5811> s not there
[05:38] <clumsy_bot> phuh, It does actually. But I don't run servers for a job, I just like to tinker around. However, my experiences with Debian are mostly that it leaves the choice up to you, the user.
[05:39] <Basketball> is anyone here good with rtcwake and crontab
[05:39] <meganerd> russ5811: what does the fstab line look like?
[05:40] <russ5811> meganerd: it's not there anymore??? i did gedit in sudo, i'll try again
[05:43] <interweb> clumsy_bot, Is there any command line way to format a hard drive with slow speed (full format) ?
[05:43] <russ5811> meganerd: UUID=0113ad2f-2f89-43c4-bf94-65a42d096b8c /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[05:43] <clumsy_bot> interweb, IIRC, yes. I'm not too fond of command-line, I'm still relatively new to Linux.
[05:44] <meganerd> russ5811: that is the root line
[05:44] <meganerd> russ5811: the "/" is where the mount point goes
[05:44] <russ5811> meganerd: it's a copy of the root line with the uuid switched out
[05:44] <clumsy_bot> interweb, Perhaps this would help. It's the Arch wiki, but it's general enough that it applies to most other Linux distros. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/partitioning
[05:45] <interweb> I've heard that fat32 has 32GB limit , but my drive came with msdos(Fat32) format . How is that possible ?
[05:45] <clumsy_bot> interweb, I don't know about that. How big is this hard drive?
[05:46] <interweb> clumsy_bot, 1TB
[05:46] <clumsy_bot> interweb, Whoa, that's not usually possible. The drive actually worked?
[05:46] <interweb> clumsy_bot, Yes ,it has came with fat32 (msdos) format
[05:47] <clumsy_bot> interweb, The only limits I know that FAT32 has is on file sizes of up to 4GB
[05:47] <clumsy_bot> interweb, Looks like your info is correct. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc938432.aspx
[05:47] <russ5811> meganerd: it's a copy of the root line with the uuid switched out. should i add the mount point i want?
[05:48] <clumsy_bot> interweb, It seems that the limit only applies to Windows 2000 and beyond.
[05:48] <meganerd> russ5811: yes
[05:48] <clumsy_bot> interweb, If you're looking for a partitioning format that can be used in both Linux and Windows, NTFS should be fine. I regularly transfer files via NTFS partitions and they all seem to work fine.
[05:49] <meganerd> clumsy_bot: just slow
[05:50] <clumsy_bot> meganerd, Yes, that is true. It's not the actual copying that's slow, just the part where they try to finish off the last few bytes of the files.
[05:50] <interweb> clumsy_bot, Does Mac support NTFS ? I don't like to format it again :/
[05:50] <meganerd> clumsy_bot: no, the actual write is slower (fuse is not a high performance solution)
[05:51] <clumsy_bot> meganerd, I should go read up more of the topic then. Haha.
[05:51] <clumsy_bot> interweb, If the OSX system has fuse installed, it should read...
[05:51] <meganerd> clumsy_bot: for most people it doesn't matter :)
[05:52] <clumsy_bot> meganerd, Haha, well all that time spent waiting for copying could be used for something else. Like actually doing something for example. HAHAHA :)
[05:52] <russ5811> meganerd, that did it. Thank you. been working on this for hours. i appreciate the help
[05:52] <meganerd> clumsy_bot: I completely agree
[05:52] <meganerd> clumsy_bot: plus it bugs me on principle :)
[05:53] <finrod> should I install APM before I install ACPI for my desktop PC?
[05:54] <Dragin> How can I get a listing of channels that5 might include Ham Radio Deluxe help?
[05:55] <rww> ubottu: alis
[05:55] <Dragin> thank you
[05:56] <interweb> clumsy_bot, There is a default software comes with Ubuntu 14.04 named Disks , Which version of FAT does it format to ? It is just said FAT
[05:56] <GnomeD_> Guys ubuntu forums website on my computer is not opening rest all others websites open. Trying from 3 days. Can anyone help
[05:57] <tiresias> hello all
[05:57] <malkauns> anyone know how to get audacity to stop crashing on playback
[05:57] <malkauns> ?
[05:57]  * Dragin wavews
[05:57]  * Dragin wave also ;)
[05:57] <tiresias> the sound doesn't work under firefox on my laptop
[05:58] <tiresias> any idea for a diagnosis?
[05:58]  * Dragin waves even :P lol
[05:58] <Dragin> bigger hammer?
[06:00] <clumsy_bot> Internet crapped out on me.
[06:02] <cityturbo> can anyone walk me through the nvidia process? i have a gtx750ti
[06:02] <cityturbo> ive read about it and its over my head...
[06:04] <finrod> Is there a command to see if my desktop PC supports APM?
[06:07] <finrod> Or a terminal command used to see if I have ACPI devices in my computer?
[06:08] <clumsy_bot> cityturbo, You should just try installing it via Additional Drivers.
[06:10] <cityturbo> can you point me in that direction?
[06:10] <cityturbo> i believe it comes up blank
[06:10] <cityturbo> i need the command to add them
[06:12] <clumsy_bot> cityturbo, Huh?
[06:13] <cityturbo> sorry im very noob. i'll come back when i have more info on my sifde
[06:13] <cityturbo> side*
[06:13] <clumsy_bot> cityturbo, Under Software & Updates is a tab called Additional Drivers.
[06:13] <clumsy_bot> cityturbo, It should fetch the drivers you need and install it for you while making the necessary configurations to xorg.conf
[06:13] <clumsy_bot> cityturbo, No command-line needed IIRC
[06:14] <cityturbo> sweet thats music to my ears
[06:14] <cfhowlett> malkauns, audacity does that way too often.  run it from terminal for the error messages and ask in the #audacity or #opensourcemusicians channel for support.
[06:15] <samthewildone> !offtopic
[06:16] <FredTom> hey all.. can anyone recommend a video editing tool for ubuntu.. i basically want to be able to open up videos, and cut sections out and export them as new videos
[06:16] <cfhowlett> FredTom, openshotg
[06:16] <cfhowlett> *openshot*
[06:16] <cityturbo> it says no additional drivers available, i think i need to give it more info
[06:17] <clumsy_bot> cityturbo, Hmm, in that case.
[06:17] <clumsy_bot> cityturbo, Have you checked the Ubuntu documentation?
[06:18] <clumsy_bot> cityturbo,https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:18] <cityturbo> im sorry its really hard for me to not just understand the documentation and the process i can google, its like... i don't know it enough to trust what im typing
[06:18] <cfhowlett> cityturbo, don't type.  copy and paste.
[06:18] <clumsy_bot> cityturbo, Take a deep breath, relax. It's normal to eventually screw something up, I know I have a lot of times. It's a learning process.
[06:18] <cityturbo> ok i'll read, cheers
[06:19] <cityturbo> oh ive screwed it up 100x
[06:19] <cityturbo> it nearly have to re-load every time i reboot
[06:19] <clumsy_bot> cityturbo, Well make those times count and learn from them. Good luck.
[06:19] <cityturbo> thanks mate :)
[06:21] <Player_> Hi, just had a quick question: does ~/.bashrc need to be marked as an executable? (chmod +x)
[06:21] <FredTom> cfhowlett, awesomet thankyou
[06:21] <rww> Player_: no
[06:22] <cfhowlett> FredTom, happy2help.
[06:23] <Player_> rww, Thanks, same deal for ~/.profile?
[06:23] <rww> indeed
[06:26] <geirha> Player_: they never get executed, only sourced, and that only requires read access
[06:29] <Player_> geirha, Thanks for explaining and clearing that up, everything makes sense now.
[06:29] <GnomeD> Some websites are not opening in my computer while others open. Everything works fine in windows. Can anyone help me please?
[06:38] <Guest5843> hi!
[06:39] <Basketball> is anyone here good with rtcwake and crontab
[06:54] <schultza> im looking for /etc/ssl/CA.pl .. apprently it's not in the openssl package anymore in 14.04 server. is it somewhere else?
[06:56] <jatt> schultza: $ dpkg -S /usr/lib/ssl/misc/CA.pl
[06:56] <jatt> openssl: /usr/lib/ssl/misc/CA.pl
[06:56] <schultza> ah, ok. thank you
[06:58] <kafee651> exit
[06:58] <kafee651> exit
[06:58] <kafee651> exit
[06:58] <kafee651> eixt
[06:58] <kafee651> exit
[06:58] <kafee651> eixt
[06:58] <unopaste> kafee651 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[07:01] <helmut_> hi
[07:01] <interweb> Is formatting a hard drive (HDD) for a several times bad for it (Maybe break it or may cause bad sectors ?)
[07:01] <geirha> You can also install apt-file and search for files installed by packages not currently installed.  apt-file search CA.pl
[07:02] <trijntje> interweb: no, it should be fine. But why would you do that?
[07:02] <interweb> trijntje, I were trying different file systems :/ Still don't know which is the best for an external hard drive .
[07:04] <interweb> When I want to a new partition on an external hard drive should I choose extended ?
[07:05] <geirha> interweb: normally formatting only requires writing a few kilobytes, that is unless you want to also wipe the data between each formatting, which takes much longer.
[07:06] <trijntje> interweb: no, extended only makes sense if you want more then 4 partitions on the external drive
[07:06] <trijntje> I think the guidelines are : fat32 if you want to use it on windwos, linux and mac, NTFS if you want linux and windows, ext4 if you only want linux
[07:07] <trijntje> fat should be read by anything, even things like smart tv etc
[07:09] <interweb> trijntje, I want to use use FAT32 but I can not stand with its 4 GB file size limitation . Is there any fix or something for it ?
[07:10] <trijntje> I dont think so, thats one of the limitations of fat
[07:10] <trijntje> what do you want to use the external harddisk for?
[07:11] <geirha> exFAT (aka FAT64) will allow bigger files, but it's not ready yet as far as I know.
[07:11] <interweb> trijntje, I want to keep some Videos and Audios on it and want to use it on Linux and Mac .
[07:12] <trijntje> interweb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1824037
[07:12] <interweb> geirha, I've tried exFAT but its driver on Ubuntu (fuse-exfat) had some problems :/
[07:13] <trijntje> ow that forum post is really old, sorry
[07:13] <cynicallemon> interweb: then ext4 will do for linux/mac
[07:14] <cynicallemon> interweb: but you will need OSXFuse
[07:16] <interweb> cynicallemon, I like it more if it was supported out of box
[07:16] <cynicallemon> interweb: then put linux on your mac :)
[07:17] <interweb> cynicallemon, LOL
[07:17] <interweb> cynicallemon, I'm not linus :))
[07:17] <geirha> there's HFS plus, but that's not installed by default in Ubuntu (though available through apt)
[07:18] <interweb> geirha, Does FAT64 works on TVs too ?
[07:18] <cynicallemon> interweb: http://osxdaily.com/2014/03/20/mount-ext-linux-file-system-mac/ - if youre interested
[07:19] <interweb> geirha, My TV supports FAT32 What about FAT64(exfat)
[07:19] <finrod> I am having some trouble uninstalling Psensor
[07:19] <cynicallemon> interweb: most will support fat32
[07:20] <FredTom> https://answers.launchpad.net/openshot/+faq/1040  << i'm trying to get x264 to work
[07:20] <FredTom> what's synaptic package manager?
[07:20] <geirha> interweb: Unlikely, FAT64 isn't even finished yet, afaik. Probably another 10 years before it's become common
[07:20] <finrod> I just installed PSensor, and discovered after installing it that I should have installed lm-sensors first
[07:21] <finrod> When I installed PSensor, there were no Optional Add-ons listed
[07:21] <interweb> geirha, What do you mean by it is not finished ?
[07:21] <cynicallemon> interweb most modern LCD TV's have a network port too so a samba server on the network is very useful or a dlna server
[07:22] <finrod> but after installation, I checked the ubuntu software Centre, and there is an optional add-on for Hard drive temp
[07:22] <finrod> which I want
[07:23] <finrod> so my problem is, if I uninstall Psensor, should I keep that optional add-on checkmarked or not?
[07:24] <finrod> If it is checkmarked, I assume it should be installed, but lm-sensors was never installed, so I am guessing that's why that optional add-on is not working, even though it may be installed
[07:27] <interweb> is there any difference between these file system's speed of writing and reading ?
[07:28] <GnomeD> Some websites are not opening in ubuntu while they open i Windows. Can anyone help?
[07:28] <interweb> GnomeD, Check your DNS settings
[07:29] <GnomeD> interweb,  how? can u guide plz?
[07:29] <interweb> cynicallemon, trijntje , is there any difference between these file system's speed of writing and reading ?
[07:29] <interweb> GnomeD, Do you use unity ?
[07:30] <GnomeD> interweb,  Gnome shell in 14.04
[07:30] <interweb> GnomeD, Sorry I'm not familiar with Gnome Shell .
[07:30] <GnomeD> interweb,  thanks for help
[07:32] <shailesh> Hello there
[07:32] <shailesh> I  need help in dignosing my laptop's wireless card issues
[07:33] <shailesh> wirelss card is detected sometimes and sometimes not
[07:33] <shailesh> and i am not sure why
[07:37] <loa> Hello, autoupdater in my system sometimes show error "The cache has no package wine1.7-i386"
[07:38] <loa> but if i do upgrade by hands, simple apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[07:38] <loa> all working good and that problem dissapear.
[07:43] <pavillon> qbittorrent scarica ma non fa la ricerca
[07:44] <geirha> interweb: Ah nevermind, I was wrong about that. Seems it has been around for a long while now, but microsoft will not disclose the full specs, so adopting it requires getting a licence from microsoft. Not everyone will bother with that.
[07:44] <interweb> geirha, Are you talking about NTFS or Fat ?
[07:45] <geirha> exFAT aka FAT64
[07:47] <interweb> geirha, Yes , I've found some packages for linux exfat-fuse and exfat-utils but they had some bugs and when copying some files they were using more processor than FAT32 I've used .
[07:47] <geirha> If it had been open like FAT32, I bet it would be supported by everything but toasters
[07:48] <interweb> geirha, :)
[07:51] <interweb> geirha, Is btrfs stable enough ?
[07:52] <GnomeD> interweb,  I tried changing DNS settings and it worked for me. I really appreciate your help
[07:52] <geirha> interweb: No idea
[07:53] <interweb> GnomeD, Your welcome.
[07:54] <GnomeD> My display resolution changes automaticall after system restart. I am using full HD monitor but due to some reason, I want to change lower resolution. When changed from system settings, lower resolution remains only for a session. After restart, it again changes to full HD. Can anyone help
[07:55] <cmishra> how to check if usb flash frive is detected?
[07:55] <cmishra> lsusb shows the device
[07:56] <cmishra> but fdisk doesnt
[07:56] <finrod> I am having trouble installing lm-sensors, anyone familiar with it?
[07:57] <geirha> cmishra: does dmesg mention anything about it?
[07:57] <finrod> I am instaling it onto an HP dx5150 SFF desktop PC
[07:58] <GnomeD> finrod,  I have used lm-sensors in past. May I help? (Although I m not a geek)
[07:58] <cmishra> yes it is detecting.. but not mounting
[07:58] <cmishra> using xfce
[07:58] <finrod>  it's warning me that probing the I2C/SMBus adapters for connected hardware is risky
[07:59] <finrod> monitoring devices is risky, though works reasonably well on most systems. What about my HP desktop PC mentioned above? Is it safe for that system?
[07:59] <finrod> for connected hardware monitoring devices is risky
[08:00] <geirha> cmishra: What letter does it get? /dev/sdb ?  sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb  outputs nothing?
[08:01] <finrod> When lm-sensors says "connected hardware", do they mean anything outside of the fans, hard drives and CPU inside the case?
[08:01] <cmishra> it outputs no suck file or directory
[08:01] <finrod> Or does lm-sensors mean the hardware connected to the motherboard inside the computer case?
[08:02] <geirha> cmishra: That is odd
[08:02] <dreamon> Is it possible to stream desktop view to a samsung TV without using VGA/HDMI, LAN would be fine?
[08:03] <cmishra> let me post the output
[08:04] <finrod> GnomeD, did you probe your I2C/SMBus adapters for connected hardware, when you installed lm-sensors?
[08:04] <cmishra> pastebin.com/4xPiQZTe
[08:05] <malkauns> anyone know how to get audacity to stop crashing on playback?
[08:06] <geirha> cmishra: So dmesg looks promising, but for some reason udev appears to fail at creating a device node (/dev/sdb) for it
[08:06] <geirha> or maybe double check that you didn't make a typo earlier
[08:07] <finrod> Is it worth the risk to probe my I2C/SMBus adapters for connected hardware?
[08:07] <cmishra> so what to do now?
[08:09] <geirha> cmishra: I guess figure out why udevd failed to create a device node for it, but don't know where to start
[08:11] <cmishra> okay ..
[08:25] <leyla> y
[08:26] <Guest26961> ok
[08:31] <Name141> Does Xubuntu and Lubuntu now have LTS releases, or are they only supported with common releases ?
[08:31] <Name141> Like a few years ago.
[08:31] <kristenbb> i have two ubuntus 14.04 on the same computer, one with swap, the other without. is it possible to set the swap of the second one to the same partition as the first, and if so, how ?
[08:31] <Name141> (Well when Lubuntu wasn't official)
[08:32] <clumsy_bot> Name141, They should have LTS releases IIRC.
[08:32] <Name141> clumsy_bot: I suppose Lubuntu would probably be the most lightweight for older machines replacing XP?
[08:33] <clumsy_bot> Name141, Yes, it would be the most lightweight desktop environment.
[08:33] <clumsy_bot> Name141, I think pure window managers may be even lighter than LXDE.
[08:33] <Name141> clumsy_bot: well we don't want to get "too low".
[08:33] <Name141> as in not looking worth anything
[08:34] <clumsy_bot> Name141, Between Xfce and LXDE, I feel they're about the same. Although Xfce is slightly heavier (only by 20MB diff.), it's older and by that virtue is more mature.
[08:34] <clumsy_bot> Name141, Xfce therefore has more themes and support for GTK and other things.
[08:35] <clumsy_bot> Name141, LXDE has been merged with the Razor-Qt project to form LXQt if I'm not mistaken.
[08:35] <Name141> clumsy_bot: Any idea if 4670 support came back with ATi/AMD drivers after the latest few releases ?
[08:35] <Name141> as in not the free driver
[08:35] <clumsy_bot> Name141, You're talking about the fglrx drivers>
[08:35] <clumsy_bot> ?
[08:35] <Name141> clumsy_bot: I suppose so
[08:35] <clumsy_bot> Name141, Last I heard, they dropped support for that and it's now under legacy.
[08:36] <Name141> I figure it wont be any good for low level games then to run the linux versions of games ?
[08:36] <Name141> (From steam)
[08:36] <clumsy_bot> Name141, If you really have to get it, I think Debian has some packages around. Not too sure whether they're usable with the newer kernel versions.
[08:36] <kristenbb> i have two ubuntus 14.04 on the same computer, one with swap, the other without. is it possible to set the swap of the second one to the same partition as the first, and if so, how ?
[08:36] <clumsy_bot> Name141, I'm running a HD5850 on free drivers, it seems to work well enough.
[08:36] <Name141> E2160  + 4670 got me up to GTA5
[08:36] <Name141> err GTA4
[08:37] <clumsy_bot> Name141, GTA4 is apparently running faster on Linux than on Windows.
[08:37] <Name141> clumsy_bot: That isn't hard to believe.
[08:37] <Name141> Max Payne 3 was the only decent game, if you don't count STILL LOADING
[08:38] <clumsy_bot> Name141, Yea, well it's surprising to me. Considering it was running through wine. Not exactly native.
[08:38] <Name141> but back on topic
[08:38] <clumsy_bot> Name141, The current fglrx release (14.1) isn't exactly stable with the newer kernels thanks to experimental Wayland being introduced.
[08:38] <clumsy_bot> Name141, This was true for Fedora, but I'm not sure about Ubuntu.
[08:38] <Name141> clumsy_bot: I might swap ubuntu for mint.. but they probably end up being close to the same.
[08:39] <clumsy_bot> Name141, I only use the fglrx drivers on Debian stable for my laptop because it's got an AMD Trinity platform.
[08:39] <clumsy_bot> Name141, Yea. I tend to like to stay close to mainstream releases like
[08:39] <clumsy_bot> Name141, Debian, Ubuntu, Arch, Fedora etc.
[08:40] <clumsy_bot> Name141, Distros like Mint tend to branch out too much and too far from the original vein of development.
[08:40] <Name141> after Fedora 16, I started having major issues and swapped to CentOS before I swapped back to be able to run Spotify without hassle.
[08:40] <clumsy_bot> Name141, If you're wondering whether the DE would improve performance, Phoronix doesn't seem to suggest that be the case.
[08:41] <cmishra> clumsy_bot: which de?
[08:41] <Name141> DE?
[08:41] <clumsy_bot> Name141, Even this local guy PenguinRecording (I'm Malaysian) ran a test for L4D2 and found not much differences between DEs
[08:41] <cmishra> desktop environment
[08:41] <Name141> clumsy_bot: I was more talking about AMD/ATi drivers vs free ones
[08:42] <clumsy_bot> Name141, General consensus is that if performance is satisfactory, stick with the free ones.
[08:42] <clumsy_bot> Name141, Fglrx drivers come up with more problems than benefits.
[08:42] <clumsy_bot> cmishra, He did a comparison between GNOME and Xfce IIRC
[08:42] <Name141> clumsy_bot: OK. I might try a few just to keep it around as a backup gaming device.
[08:42] <Name141> Probably wont be worth more than Source agmes
[08:42] <Name141> games
[08:43] <clumsy_bot> cmishra, If you're interested, here's the comparison in performance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WqMr_JQono
[08:44] <kristenbb> can someone please help me regarding my swap question?
[08:44] <clumsy_bot> Name141, Source games should be fine. I'm really hoping AMD just drops fglrx and focus on helping the free drivers. It would alleviate the problems with support and coding costs since they only need focus on one instead of two.
[08:44] <Name141> clumsy_bot: Maybe SteamOS will take off......like half life 3...
[08:44] <Name141> And help get gaming on linux
[08:44] <clumsy_bot> Name141, I've heard that SteamOS may not be as big of a benefit to Linux gaming as we once thought.
[08:45] <clumsy_bot> Name141, Seems like most manufacturers will end up just making drivers specifically for SteamOS and ignoring the rest.
[08:45] <clumsy_bot> Name141, I'm not too familiar with the discussion about that. r/linux_gaming seems to be having quite some discussion about it though.
[08:46] <clumsy_bot> kristenbb, Two installation on diff hard drives and one swap partition on one drive? Is that it?
[08:46] <kristenbb> clumsy_bot: no it's all on the same disk
[08:46] <clumsy_bot> kristenbb, I suppose you'd have to specify on both installations to use that particular swap partition.
[08:47] <kristenbb> clumsy_bot: on one it's set up correctly, on the other it's not. so how to do that ?
[08:47] <clumsy_bot> kristenbb, I'm not too sure about that. Let me Google it up and see if I can find anything for you.
[08:48] <codehacker> m
[08:48] <cmishra> i guess if you try setting up for the other it will overwrite the first installations setup for swap
[08:49] <kristenbb> cmishra: do you mean that it's not possible to have two ubuntus using the same swap partition ? or that it's possible, but not advised?
[08:49] <clumsy_bot> kristenbb, A few of my searches turned up
[08:50] <cmishra> i guess its not possible.. i dont know.. i used to quadboot.. but ubuntu couldnt use the swap once it was used for bio-linux
[08:50] <clumsy_bot> kristenbb, It seems that it's alright to have shared swap partitions because they'd flush it out after each shutdown, but problems may come in if there's hibernation involved.
[08:51] <kristenbb> clumsy_bot: why would hibernation cause problems?
[08:51] <clumsy_bot> kristenbb, Hibernation involves placing what was in RAM into the swap file, basically storing to disk.
[08:51] <clumsy_bot> kristenbb, If you boot up and GRUB pops up and you select the wrong installation, the boot-up will crash.
[08:53] <kristenbb> clumsy_bot: so you mean hibernate and then halt and boot, as opposed to hibernate and just resume from hibernate ?
[08:53] <kristenbb> clumsy_bot: i'm a bit confused as to how you can boot up after an hibernation
[08:53] <clumsy_bot> kristenbb, I'm not too sure how it works, I'm merely giving you the info I've sort of picked up from some preliminary searching on Google.
[08:54] <kristenbb> clumsy_bot: but as a general rule, is it common to boot up after an hibernation ?
[08:54] <clumsy_bot> kristenbb, Yes that's how most distros would be configured.
[08:55] <clumsy_bot> kristenbb, The main side effect is that data could be lost if somehow you forget and bootup the other installation instead of the one that was hibernated.
[08:55] <bekks> kristenbb: thats how hibernation works.
[08:56] <kristenbb> bekks: then i think i'm confusing hibernation with something else. how is it called when you close the laptop screen and the computer goes in a deep sleep ?
[08:56] <bekks> kristenbb: standby?
[08:57] <clumsy_bot> kristenbb, http://askubuntu.com/questions/3369/what-is-the-difference-between-hibernate-and-suspend
[08:57] <kristenbb> bekks: no idea, i'm just asking.  but when i close the laptop screen, the computer almost shuts down, using almost no energy at all, and then i can wake him up by pressing the power button, which makes it go back to the state it was
[08:57] <clumsy_bot> kristenbb, They list out the differences between all the different power states.
[08:58] <bekks> kristenbb: Thats called "standby".
[08:58] <clumsy_bot> I suggest perhaps checking out the link I sent.
[08:58] <clumsy_bot> Could help clarify a few confusions.
[08:59] <Name141> I wonder if I should install the 64 bit version on the 2GB DDR2 system?
[08:59] <Name141> I guess it wont hurt
[08:59] <kristenbb> i see, thanks. so as it turns out, i'm not using hibernate really often, so that won't be a problem for me. so going back to the main question, how can I set my two ubuntus to be using the same swap partition
[08:59] <clumsy_bot> Name141, If your processor supports it, why not?
[08:59] <Name141> clumsy_bot: 64bit linux isn't like 64 bit Windows ?
[09:00] <Name141> Using all it can ?
[09:00] <clumsy_bot> kristenbb, That, my friend, is something that I cannot help you with. Sorry :/
[09:00] <Name141> The machine ran Windows 7 64 bit like junk, 32 bit ran fine
[09:00] <clumsy_bot> Name141, I think even for x64 Windows, you can install it even with less than 4GB of RAM
[09:00] <kristenbb> clumsy_bot: ok no problem, maybe someone else can ? (bekks ?)
[09:00] <clumsy_bot> Name141, It's just that x64 is more efficient with 4GB or more.
[09:00] <Name141> Oh well, Installing 64 bit
[09:01] <clumsy_bot> Name141, You are using something lightweight yes? Shouldn't make much difference.
[09:01] <Blenda> hi all, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, should i do something particular with my sound drivers or other as i'm doing music? I have sound glitches in Bitwig, asked on their chan, but no answers. I use the internal soundcard, not the best but works fluently in Win. I hate rebooting in Win lol
[09:01] <clumsy_bot> Blenda, http://ubuntustudio.org/
[09:02] <clumsy_bot> Blenda, There's a version of Ubuntu specifically tailored for audio production etc.
[09:02] <clumsy_bot> Blenda, Any art type production basically.
[09:02] <ChaosBringer> hi all, i'm having this issue: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1121588 but on ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[09:03] <Blenda> hmmm, the pb is i can't go into a new install for now, i've splitted my only actual Hd, and no more space
[09:03] <Blenda> clumsy_bot
[09:04] <clumsy_bot> Blenda, Okay, I see. Have you tried perhaps asking on the Ubuntu forums?
[09:04] <tortib> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8195268/
[09:04] <clumsy_bot> Blenda, Sound glitches would have to be under the domain of PulseAudio and ALSA since those two are the main things handling audio.
[09:04] <Blenda> no... hmm i like to ask here
[09:04] <Blenda> Yes it's Alsa
[09:05] <Blenda> clumsy_bot: let say i want to check if my drivers are the newest, how to do ?
[09:05] <clumsy_bot> Blenda, Really? I thought Ubuntu ran it's sound through ALSA and then PulseAudio.
[09:06] <Blenda> i mean in Bitwig
[09:06] <clumsy_bot> Blenda, Check for the latest version of your sound drivers or Bitwig?
[09:06] <Blenda> yep plz
[09:06] <Henk_> Does anybody have a good tutorial on installing ubuntu next to windows 8 in a dual boot setup? Last time I tried windows 8 and ubuntu both didn't boot
[09:06] <clumsy_bot> Blenda, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:06] <Blenda> trying
[09:07] <clumsy_bot> Blenda, That should refresh the cache list and check for any updates for all your software.
[09:08] <Blenda> clumsy_bot, i've typed that in one line, is it the way? with the &&?
[09:08] <clumsy_bot> Blenda, Yep.
[09:08] <Blenda> ok thx
[09:09] <bekks> kristenbb: Can you please repeat your problem?
[09:09] <Blenda> i already updated it daily, but it's been one month i didn't, so i doubt this is the pb, but you're right, this is the firs tthing to check
[09:09] <Blenda> lumsy_bot
[09:09] <Blenda> arf
[09:11] <clumsy_bot> Blenda, Yep.
[09:11] <clumsy_bot> Blenda, I'm checking out the forums for Bitwig. The client seems to be quite recent for Linux. Is that correct?
[09:12] <Blenda> clumsy_bot client?
[09:12] <clumsy_bot> Blenda, Bitwig is quite a recent development in Linux right?
[09:12] <Blenda> yep
[09:12] <clumsy_bot> Blenda, A lot of forum posts saying it's buggy as hell.
[09:13] <Blenda> haaaa, i should go check myself
[09:14] <Blenda> clumsy_bot in fact, as i knew the difference between Ubuntu and Studio, i thought i just had to enhance some sound driver first before all
[09:14] <clumsy_bot> Blenda, "i thought i just had to enhance some sound driver first before all" What do you mean by that?
[09:14] <Blenda> tweak a little to have better sound perf
[09:15] <Blenda> like i did with nvdia drivers
[09:15] <clumsy_bot> Blenda, Well I suppose you'd have to read the documentation to figure that out...
[09:16] <popey> Blenda: you using jack?
[09:16] <clumsy_bot> Blenda, On second thought, maybe you should try using PulseAudio in Bitwig
[09:17] <Blenda> no Jack, no Pulse audio (or i don't know)
[09:17] <Blenda> i will google about them
[09:17] <popey> bitwig recommends using jack
[09:17] <popey> I have a friend who does a bit of audio work, and always uses jack
[09:17] <Blenda> thx for the directions, i'm going to dig that
[09:17] <clumsy_bot> popey, Blenda I'll let you two sort it out. I'm not much of an audio guy. Hope I was of some help Blenda.
[09:18] <Blenda> answered!
[09:18] <Blenda> Thanks :)
[09:18] <clumsy_bot> Blenda, Glad to help :D
[09:18] <hanshenrik> "grub failed to install on root device, and that is all i will tell you. i will not even give you a hint as to why.", than you very much ubuntu installer piece of shit
[09:18] <Blenda> clumsy_bot see ya
[09:18] <popey> hanshenrik: here for help or just to rant?
[09:18] <hanshenrik> popey, if my computer fail this reboot, ill need help
[09:18] <clumsy_bot> Blenda, See ya.
[09:18] <hanshenrik> probably
[09:19] <hanshenrik> was running a normal apt-get upgrade
[09:19] <hanshenrik> and i guess there was a update to grub
[09:19] <popey> hanshenrik: what version of ubuntu?
[09:19] <hanshenrik> 1404
[09:19] <clumsy_bot> hanshenrik, You could try Grub-rescue
[09:20] <popey> hanshenrik: do you have a separate boot partition?
[09:20] <popey> hanshenrik: if so, is it full?
[09:20] <clumsy_bot> hanshenrik, Sorry, it's Boot-repair.
[09:20] <hanshenrik> no, just 1 partition, and no, its not full
[09:20] <popey> (this can happen if you use full disk encryption and/or lvm)
[09:20] <hanshenrik> huh, booted without problems
[09:20] <popey> hanshenrik: i would recommend "apt-get dist-upgrade" over "apt-get upgrade"
[09:20] <clumsy_bot> popey, Isn't dist-upgrade for moving between releases?
[09:21] <hanshenrik> popey, i don't want dist-upgrade, i want to stay on 1404
[09:21] <popey> no
[09:21] <hanshenrik> yes it is
[09:21] <popey> no, it is not
[09:21] <hanshenrik> last i checked, clumsy_bot is right, though i havent checked since like 12.04
[09:21] <bekks> hanshenrik: dist-upgrade does not change anything about being on 1404. It doesnt update your release.
[09:21] <popey> I am staggered that in 2014 people still don't know the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade ☹
[09:21] <popey> (this was not a dig at you) :D
[09:22] <popey> hanshenrik: dist-upgrade will only upgrade to the next release if you edited your sources.list first
[09:22] <hanshenrik> what does dist-upgrade do?
[09:22] <popey> upgrade will upgrade packages you already have installed
[09:22] <popey> dist-upgrade will upgrade them, and also, if necessary, pull in new packages required by those updates
[09:22] <bekks> hanshenrik: it updates all distribution packages - all packages you've installed to the latest version of the release you have installed.
[09:22] <popey> upgrade will not do that
[09:22] <hanshenrik> so, if i have say, 1204, apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade", will NOT take it to next release? :o
[09:23] <hanshenrik> or, a newer release?
[09:23] <bekks> hanshenrik: No, it will not.
[09:23] <popey> correct
[09:23] <cfhowlett> hanshenrik, correctomundo!
[09:23] <ChaosBringer> hi all, i'm having this issue: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1121588 but on ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[09:23] <clumsy_bot> Here's a post on the differences between the two. http://askubuntu.com/questions/194651/why-use-apt-get-upgrade-instead-of-apt-get-dist-upgrade
[09:23] <popey> I wrote a rant about this 4 years ago! http://popey.com/blog/2010/01/11/feedback-for-going-linux-podcast/
[09:23] <ChaosBringer> anyone has idea on how to fix? I'm using gnome-shell instead of KDE
[09:24] <cfhowlett> popey, don't be.  I happily ran "update" for years thinking that I was keeping on top of good system management practices.  Imagine my face when I actually read the man page last year ...
[09:24] <popey> heh
[09:25] <clumsy_bot> What about aptitude then?
[09:25] <clumsy_bot> I'd have to perform a full-upgrade under aptitude yes?
[09:25] <cfhowlett> clumsy_bot, no.  apt will do it
[09:25] <cfhowlett> clumsy_bot, sudo do-release-upgrade
[09:26] <clumsy_bot> cfhowlett, Okay... Off to the documentation for me.
[09:27] <alsheft516> hi everyboooooody
[09:29] <ahad> Can a battery problem be associated with installing Ubuntu?
[09:29] <ahad> anyone?
[09:29] <popey> what kind of battery problem?
[09:29] <ikonia> sorry what ?
[09:29] <ikonia> do you mean a problem installing ubuntu ?
[09:29] <ahad> yes. can it be?
[09:29] <ikonia> ubuntu will not "change" your battery, it can use the power system differently
[09:30] <cfhowlett> ahad, don't see how, although ubuntu does recommend AC power during install.   but so long as power continues through the install, not really an issue.
[09:30] <ahad> as in the battery bar is stuck on 46% and its only operatable using the power cable
[09:30] <ikonia> ubuntu won't stop your machine charging
[09:30] <clumsy_bot> ahad, Most probably a power management bug.
[09:31] <ikonia> thats not true
[09:31] <ahad> so any possible suggestions?
[09:31] <ikonia> it could be a dead battery, no longer accepting charge
[09:31] <popey> my battery won't charge beyond about 30%
[09:31] <popey> thats because the battery is broken
[09:31] <ikonia> popey: yes, this sounds more realistic
[09:31] <Nero_> I have a D845GVSR Intel Motherboard. 1 GB RAm, P4 processor 2.2 GHz. Can I install ubuntu 14.04 on such configuration?
[09:32] <Nero_> Hey ikonia !
[09:32] <ikonia> Nero_: it's the bottom end of the spec, but sure
[09:32] <popey> Nero_: yes, but it might prefer more ram. or you might want a leaner desktop
[09:32] <clumsy_bot> Nero_, I don't see why not. It might be a little too heavy though. Try Xubuntu or Lubuntu.
[09:32] <ahad> guys it was working just fine yesterday. and yesterday only i installed Ubuntu
[09:32] <popey> ahad: what make/model of laptop?
[09:33] <ahad> Hp pavilion G6
[09:33] <Nero_> and one more thing. I'm currently on WinXP. the 720p movies stutter on VLC player. Would Ubuntu be able to fix this glitch?
[09:33] <ikonia> ahad: batterys can die, a reboot/power surge (such as the end of an install) can be enough to finish a dying battery
[09:33] <cfhowlett> Nero_, it would probably use less memory so ... possible
[09:33] <popey> Nero_: it might be able to frameskip to compensate
[09:33] <ikonia> Nero_: if it's a resource issue, no
[09:33] <ikonia> Nero_: if it's a bug with the software, possibly
[09:33] <popey> Nero_: but sounds like a low end machine, so you may need to set your expectationa accordingly ☻
[09:34] <Nero_> I can alternatively install an older version of Ubuntu. say 12.04.
[09:34] <ahad> ikonia: thanks for your help :)
[09:34] <ikonia> Nero_: still the bottom end of the spec
[09:34] <popey> Nero_: maybe re-encode your videos to a lower resolution ☻
[09:35] <Nero_> So, I have no other go but to pick Lubuntu or Xubuntu? :(
[09:35] <popey> no, there are many desktops
[09:35] <cfhowlett> Nero_, those are not BAD choices ...
[09:35] <popey> those are just two well supported lightweight ones
[09:35] <clumsy_bot> ahad, PuppyLinux?
[09:35] <cfhowlett> Nero_, transcoding is quite easy with avconv
[09:35] <ikonia> puppylinux wil not fix anything
[09:35] <popey> Nero_: seems like you want software to fix a hardware problem (lack of power)
[09:36] <Nero_> If it isn't that pain, would you please recommend some?
[09:36] <alsheft516> how can i install flash player in xubuntu
[09:36] <clumsy_bot> ikonia, It's certainly the lightest option if he wanted a really light desktop.
[09:36] <ikonia> clumsy_bot: no, sorry
[09:36] <ikonia> that won't fix anything
[09:36] <cfhowlett> !flash | alsheft516
[09:36] <popey> clumsy_bot: the issue he's mentioned is about video playback, not desktop weight
[09:36] <popey> Nero_: video playback will be the same on any linux distro really
[09:36] <clumsy_bot> My mistake then.
[09:36] <alsheft516> sorry i mean flash player
[09:37] <clumsy_bot> alsheft516, A dedicated player for Flash files?
[09:38] <Nero_> Ok. here's the thing. I see my computer frequently getting affected by some f**** viruses off late. And with such an old motherboard I have, I thought why not switch to ubuntu which is sleek and secure.
[09:38] <ikonia> Nero_: tone down the language - there is no need for it
[09:38] <ikonia> Nero_: it's only as secure as you make it
[09:38] <ikonia> Nero_: swapping to linux is not a magic fix - you need to change your approach to using a computer
[09:38] <clumsy_bot> Nero_, wattOS could be a good alternative to Lubuntu and Xubuntu
[09:38] <ikonia> wattsOS would be a bad choice
[09:39] <cfhowlett> Nero_, you have old hardware.  lubuntu is optimized for old hardware.  xubuntu is also quite good.  download.  test.  choose.
[09:39] <ikonia> again changing distros is not an issue
[09:39] <Nero_> the second thing is the video issue on Win XP. The moment i play a 720p or a 1080p, the screen goes blank and I will have to manually restart to again work on my system.
[09:39] <clumsy_bot> It seems like I can't really ascertain what he really wants...
[09:39] <cfhowlett> Nero_, something else you can EASILY test ...
[09:39] <popey> Nero_: you could boot off a live cd/usb and install vlc then try and play a 720p video off your hard disk to test it.
[09:40] <popey> Nero_: that would let you know whether ubuntu would work at that or not
[09:40] <Nero_> popey. that's a good idea ! thanks !
[09:40] <popey> Nero_: you could also try a few desktops that way, grab an ubuntu, xubuntu and lubuntu iso and compare them
[09:41] <popey> Nero_: just note that on the live cd the "universe" pocket is disabled by default, so you'd need to 1) boot from live cd/usb, 2) edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add in universe, 3) sudo apt-get update, 4) sudo apt-get install vlc, then 5) navigate to your local hard disk in file manager and play video in vlc
[09:41] <popey> Nero_: might be a bit slow going with 1GB RAM and everything on a CD/USB though!
[09:42] <Nero_> ikonia Basically, I want my curent system config to perform upto its mark using a lightweight OS. Win XP or Win7 is pretty heavy on such config. Moreover Ubuntu is awesome.
[09:43] <ikonia> Nero_: you'll not really get anything better against your hardware
[09:43] <ikonia> eg: a windows 7 install is a reaonable mirror in resources of a modern linux distro
[09:44] <ikonia> Nero_: there are other lighterweight ones as popey has suggested but if you don't have the resource ot play a 720p video on windows - you won't on ubuntu
[09:44] <ikonia> (or any linux distro)
[09:44] <ikonia> (bottom line)
[09:44] <Nero_> ikonia. true.
[09:45] <Nero_> popey Thanks  a lot for the timely help!
[09:45] <popey> np
[09:45] <Nero_> ikonia Thank you ! :)
[09:50] <Nero_> ah! one more query. How do I get a secure connection on freenode IRC?
[09:50] <ikonia> the guys in #freenode can help/explain that to you
[09:50] <HaPut> I upgraded to 14.04  when i restarted the system get stuck at the ubuntu screen with dots lighting forever
[09:52] <ahad> can you guys tell me a channel for ubuntu beginners?
[09:52] <ikonia> ahad: here is just fine
[09:52] <cfhowlett> !manual | ahad,
[09:52] <ikonia> ahad: all levels welcome
[09:52] <cfhowlett> ahad, you might also read some ubuntu magazine:  www.fullcirclemagazine.org
[09:52] <ahad> haha, thanks alot guys :)
[09:53] <jordanstjacques> are there any channels that discuss Ubuntu Server specifically?
[09:53] <ikonia> jordanstjacques: #ubuntu-server
[09:53] <ahad> thanks for the resources, i really could use them
[09:53] <ikonia> ahad: https://help.ubuntu.com
[09:53] <ikonia> ahad: pretty much walks you through any of the steps a new user would need
[09:53] <ahad> ikonia: thanks alot
[09:53] <HaPut> I upgraded to 14.04  when i restarted the system get stuck at the ubuntu screen with dots lighting forever
[09:55] <jordanstjacques> thanks ikonia
[09:56] <littlebit> hello people, I have been trying to install xubuntu amd64 onto my lenovo x201i. Booting from the usb stick was no problem at all. Neither did I run into any problem during the installation process. But when I reboot my newly installed OS, I land directly into a kernel panic.
[09:56] <littlebit> can someone help
[09:57] <cfhowlett> littlebit, this is the lenovo carbo?
[09:58] <cfhowlett> *carbon*
[09:58] <ikonia> littlebit: try to get some key words from the kernel panic, there is normally a summary line before all the bumf eg: "unable to find disk UUSD-o44985739853-9483094-40985345
[09:58] <littlebit> cfhowlett: no it isn't
[09:58] <menace> Hi, i ssh (with -X) from Machine A into Machine B. On Machine B there's a video with sound. on A i type into my ssh session vlc file.mpeg. now i get the video on machine A, but the sound on machine B. how do i reroute the sound so that the sound is outputted on Machine A?
[09:58] <littlebit> ikonia: the funny thing is that everything works find when I install xubuntu i386
[09:59] <ikonia> menace: sounds is not a network protocol
[09:59] <cfhowlett> littlebit, umm... problem solved then?  right?
[09:59] <ikonia> menace: you're forwarding X11 - not sound
[09:59] <vol4ko_y_z> i am wondering if i go with ubuntu, it can be slow? Unitly looks too full with features so...
[09:59] <ikonia> littlebit: that's interesting,
[09:59] <ikonia> vol4ko_y_z: really depends on your hardware
[09:59] <littlebit> cfhowlett: well I have an i5 cpu and using a 32 bit os
[09:59] <cfhowlett> vol4ko_y_z, try lubuntu or xubuntu
[09:59] <menace> ikonia: i know that. but how could i solve that problem? any idea?
[09:59] <littlebit> I cant go above 4GB ram
[10:00] <kristenbb> bekks: you still there ?
[10:00] <ikonia> menace: menace to be honest, I wouldn't approach it as you're doing
[10:00] <ikonia> menace: I'd run the video player locally, with the file remote
[10:00] <menace> why?
[10:00] <kristenbb> i have two ubuntus 14.04 on the same computer, one with swap, the other without. is it possible to set the swap of the second one to the same partition as the first, and if so, how ?
[10:00] <ikonia> kristenbb: installs can share swap
[10:01] <littlebit> cfhowlett: well I have an i5 cpu and using a 32 bit os
[10:01] <ikonia> kristenbb: just add the swap partition to the fstab
[10:01] <kristenbb> ikonia: how?
[10:01] <HaPut> Graphical display stopped working after upgrade to 14.04.
[10:01] <ikonia> kristenbb: on the ubuntu with swap look at /etc/fstab - use that as a template for the swap line in /etc/fstab on the ubuntu machine without swap
[10:02] <littlebit> cfhowlett: and I cant go above 4GB ram
[10:02] <ikonia> littlebit: how much ram do you actually have ?
[10:02] <littlebit> ikonia: 1x 4GB
[10:02] <littlebit> ikonia: and 1 slot is unused
[10:02] <ikonia> littlebit: ok, so you're not actually held back at this time while the problem is worked through
[10:03] <littlebit> ikonia: well... kinda
[10:03] <ikonia> littlebit: in what way ?
[10:04] <littlebit> ikonia: I'm held back on ram that is all
[10:04] <ikonia> you've only got 4gb of ram, so you're not held back
[10:04] <ikonia> this gives time to work through the problem
[10:05] <kristenbb> ikonia: it's the same line, but it works on one, not the other
[10:05] <ikonia> kristenbb: what's the error ?
[10:05] <kristenbb> ikonia: /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0
[10:06] <ikonia> aaah crypt
[10:06] <ikonia> in that case "no"
[10:06] <ikonia> you've encypted it
[10:06] <kristenbb> ikonia: there is no 'error', it's just that "free" shows no swap
[10:06] <kristenbb> ikonia: how do you mean ?
[10:06] <littlebit> ikonia: true, since this is the first time i ran into a kernel panic, what information is important to look at?
[10:07] <ikonia> kristenbb: you've encypted your swap partition so the other OS can't see it
[10:07] <ikonia> littlebit: first thing is to get any of the human reable information, there is normally a very basic error summary before all the memory dump information
[10:07] <kristenbb> ikonia: why ? is swap not flushed in between boots ?
[10:08] <ikonia> kristenbb: it's ENRCYPTED
[10:08] <ikonia> ENCRYPTED
[10:08] <m3n3chm0> hello, i'm getting this error since 2 days ago on xubuntu 14.04 >> lightdm-gtk-greeter crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_window_focus
[10:08] <kristenbb> ikonia: but why couldn't this partition be used with another encryption key for the swap of the other os ?
[10:09] <ikonia> kristenbb: becayse it's encypted, so the other OS doesn't know about it - the point of encyption is to not allow it to be accessed
[10:10] <kristenbb> ikonia: i don't want to access the info on it, i just want to use the space.
[10:10] <Nero_> m3n3chm0 do you get a blank screen after the error?
[10:10] <ikonia> right - using the space is "accessing it"
[10:10] <ikonia> kristenbb: you've encypted the disk to stop other systems accessing it
[10:10] <kristenbb> ikonia: i've not encrypted the disk, just the home partition - but apparently the installer did the rest
[10:10] <m3n3chm0> Nero_ no, just after login i receive that error and appears the bug window "aport.." to send a notification crash.
[10:11] <m3n3chm0> but i continue without problems just on login
[10:12] <Nero_> m3n3chm0 have you updated any kernel recently?
[10:12] <kristenbb> ikonia: can a partition not be used as a blank bunch of blocks, and use it as an empty partition, whether the data on it is encrypted or not ?
[10:12] <ikonia> kristenbb: it's encrypted - you've locked it
[10:12] <ikonia> kristenbb: nothing else matters
[10:12] <m3n3chm0> Nero_  mmm i fon't know, now i'm runnging 3n3chm0@m3n3chm0-laptop:~$ uname -r
[10:12] <m3n3chm0> 3.13.0-35-generic
[10:14] <Name141> Hm I can't seem to get the new machine online
[10:14] <kristenbb> ikonia: i'm sorry but i don't understand what you mean by that. from what i understand, data encryption is at a higher degree than just block read/write. I can always access the blocks, I just won't be able to understand them because the data on it is encrypted. Am I wrong ?
[10:14] <Name141> after install
[10:15] <ikonia> kristenbb: you can't read/write to the disk as it's encyrypted, there is no other way to explain it
[10:15] <gorgath> !chrome
[10:15] <gorgath> how do I install chrome
[10:16] <Name141> !chromium
[10:16]  * Name141 shrugs
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> Name141  it's called chromium-browser
[10:18] <okko> I need to install an unicorn-update for my trusty-tahr. How should I do it?
[10:19] <gorgath> okko, install it through the ubuntu software centre
[10:19] <gorgath> !update > okko
[10:19] <Name141> Maybe 2 NICs is creating an issue for me ? In ifconfig, it has the right information like I'm actually connected to the internet.
[10:20] <ikonia> Name141: what's the actual problem
[10:20] <Name141> ikonia: I can't seem to get back on the internet after restarting.
[10:21] <Name141> Or to the modem page even
[10:21] <Nero_> m3n3chm0 try logging using "other" and input your credentials.
[10:21] <ikonia> Name141: what is the error you get ?
[10:21] <m3n3chm0> Nero_ ok, i'll try
[10:22] <m3n3chm0> using other ? user ?
[10:22] <Name141> ikonia: None from anything other than browsers
[10:22] <Nero_> m3n3chm0 see if this helps. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/809890
[10:22] <ikonia> Name141: you obviously know how to use ifconfig, what is the IP address your network card is given
[10:23] <Name141> ikonia: eth0 has the correct information, eth1 is nothing.
[10:23] <ikonia> Name141: that's not what I asked
[10:23] <ikonia> Name141: what is the IP address your network card has been given
[10:23] <Name141> ikonia: inet addr (something that my ISP gives me) , Bcast (a number slightly different from ISP) , mask <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:24] <Name141> (slightly different from inet addr)
[10:24] <ikonia> Name141: ok, I'm not going to be able to help if you're not giving me information
[10:24] <Name141> ikonia: inet addr: <IP_ADDRESS> bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:25] <Nero_> Name141 you will have to seperately configure the ethernet cards.
[10:25] <Name141> Nero_: can I just disable one?
[10:25] <ikonia> Name141: so it's giving you a public IP - not a private one
[10:25] <ikonia> Name141: ignore what Name141 is saying
[10:25] <Name141> ikonia: pretty much, there is only a switch
[10:25] <Name141> ikonia: modem is supposed to do DHCP
[10:25] <ikonia> Name141: ok, perfect
[10:25] <ikonia> Name141: so if you do "netstat -rn" what is the default gateway
[10:26] <Nero_> Name141 there sure is an IP address conflict. ikonia asks for the Ip addresses to see if there is any conflict.
[10:26] <ikonia> no I did not ask to see if there is a conflict
[10:26] <ikonia> there is NOT an ip conflict
[10:26] <Name141> <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:26] <ikonia> there is nothing to suggest anything to do with an IP conflict
[10:26] <Name141> <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:27] <ikonia> Name141: thats plausable, as a basic test can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:27] <Name141> Yes
[10:27] <ikonia> Name141: cool
[10:27] <ikonia> so can you "ping <IP_ADDRESS>"
[10:28] <Name141> Hm.  It seems stuff just started connecting like nothing was wrong
[10:28] <Name141> Maybe I should get a real router.
[10:28] <ikonia> Name141: looks like you're on the internet
[10:28] <Name141> One ViaSat friendly
[10:28] <Name141> ikonia: Yeah pages are coming up fine now....
[10:29] <Name141> ikonia: I been told on the wildblue forums I should really get a router so that the modem will give us all one IP# instead of different ones.
[10:29] <ikonia> Name141: give "us" ?
[10:30] <ikonia> multiple people cannot share 1 ip
[10:30] <Name141> ikonia: Each computer (which is each user)
[10:30] <ikonia> Name141: that's nothing to do with your modem - that's your ISP's dhcp allocation
[10:30] <Name141> ikonia: Also not being able to share files/printer is annoying
[10:30] <Nero_> ikonia what are you into? as in computer sciences.
[10:30] <ikonia> Name141: you can setup a router to give multiple non-public IP addresses and then masqurade out of your one public IP
[10:31] <Name141> ikonia: That's what I meant.  192.168.0.whatevers
[10:31] <ikonia> Name141: your ISP should be able to explain what it will allow/not allow
[10:31] <ikonia> Name141: perfect,
[10:31] <Name141> ikonia: I just been putting it off since the BEFSR41 wont work as a true router on Hughesnet, Wildblue, or Exede. (Sat)
[10:32] <Name141> It'll work for a few mins, then disconnect.  Have to set it back up as a switch with computers in the switch ports and internet too.
[10:32] <Name141> That and the ones listed are like $60+
[10:33] <Name141> People got working on the forums
[10:33] <ikonia> well, that's a bit outside the scope of this channel
[10:33] <Name141> Yeah
[10:33] <Nero_> ikonia how can I Pm you?
[10:33] <ikonia> Nero_: why do you need to pm me ?
[10:34] <Nero_> you seem approachable!
[10:34] <Name141> ikonia: upon restarting I get "requesting an ethernet network address for Wired Connection 2"
[10:34] <ikonia> Nero_: if you need ubuntu help, just ask the channel
[10:34] <Name141> Then saying it's disconnected.  I been having to reset the router (Power off/up)
[10:34] <ikonia> Name141: thats fine, dhcp will broadcast requests on all network cards
[10:34] <ikonia> Name141: it just won't get a response
[10:35] <Name141> ikonia: It's all disconnected on restart now.
[10:35] <Name141> I'm starting to think something is wrong with the switch even.
[10:35] <ikonia> Name141: it sounds like your modem is only activating on traffic
[10:35] <ikonia> Name141: ping <IP_ADDRESS> and see if it comes to life
[10:36] <Name141> ikonia: Network is unreachable
[10:36] <ikonia> Name141: ping the gateway again
[10:36] <ahad> ikonia: what does ping <IP_ADDRESS> do?
[10:36] <Nero_> ikonia You shall be remembered for generations to come for the support you give to users all day ! I salute you Matthew!
[10:36] <ikonia> Nero_: err ok
[10:36] <ikonia> ahad: just hits a google server that has icmp on, so it's just a random "ok" box on the internet to do a test with
[10:36] <Name141> <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[10:36] <ikonia> Name141: yes
[10:37] <ikonia> ahad: any known working box will do
[10:37] <Nero_> ikonia I wonder how it would be to be something good at something like you !
[10:37] <Name141> ikonia: Network is unreachable
[10:37] <ikonia> Name141: interesting
[10:37] <ikonia> Name141: do you have an IP address on eth0 again ?
[10:37] <Name141> ikonia: no.  It's been doing the same thing on windows machines (as seen above).
[10:37] <Name141> Have to power down/up just on restart of a machine.
[10:37] <Name141> (The switch)
[10:38] <Name141> I'm not sure of software update on modem conflicting, or switch gone nuts ?
[10:38] <ikonia> Name141: sonds like you need to talk to your ISP
[10:38] <AlexPortable> So
[10:38] <AlexPortable> How do I disable the 'switch user' on the lockscreen?
[10:38] <Name141> ikonia: They'll just tell me to call Linksys or Trednet
[10:39] <Name141> depending on which I'm using as the switch
[10:39] <ikonia> Name141: they can see what/when your modem sends auth requests/dhcpd requests, that will be useful to know whats failing and why
[10:39] <Nero_> AlexPortable what OS are you on?
[10:39] <ikonia> Name141: but this doesn't sound like ubuntu is an issue - more your network hardware
[10:40] <Name141> ikonia: Now when I clicked network to retry it, it came back.... interesting.  Everything's connecting again.  Seems something has gone wrong somewhere with hardware.
[10:40] <AlexPortable> Nero_: i think this is ubuntu channel
[10:40] <Name141> Yes indeed.
[10:40] <AlexPortable> 14.04
[10:40] <kristenbb> ikonia: so if i cant use one partition, then how can i set up swap on the ubuntu without it?
[10:41] <ikonia> kristenbb: you need to setup another non-encypted swap partition for your other install
[10:41] <kristenbb> i would like it encrypted, just like the other, is that not possible ?
[10:42] <kristenbb> ikonia: ^
[10:42] <ikonia> kristenbb: sure, setup a different encypted partition for your other install
[10:42] <kristenbb> ikonia: ok. how can I do that ?
[10:42] <ikonia> kristenbb: first make the partition, then use the encyption method that you like to use
[10:42] <ikonia> eg: luks
[10:43] <netmole> Good day , i had strange issues with new install of ubuntu 14.04 used mini iso cd my network card AR8161 is offline and as well all usb devices keyboard  they worked with install cd
[10:43] <Nero_> AlexPortable open gconf-editor. Navigate through the desktop, gnome and then lockdown.
[10:43] <kristenbb> ikonia: but it's not a full disk encryption, it's just home encryption.
[10:43] <ikonia> kristenbb: thats fine
[10:43] <Nero_> AlexPortable and you have an option to disable the user switching.
[10:43] <ikonia> netmole: the mini-iso doesn't have all the packages
[10:43] <ikonia> netmole: I suggest using a standard install
[10:44] <AlexPortable> well won't this disable user switching at all?
[10:44] <netmole> well it is posible to install them in rescue console or you consider to burn full image and reinstall ?
[10:45] <Benyamin> hello everyone. i need help, i just wana figured why why ubuntu and xubuntu install ext3 file system by default not ext4. can anyone explain it? and why when using e4defrag using sudo, there's still some part on the HDD cant be defrag? thanks for answering, anyone...
[10:45] <kristenbb> ikonia: so I have created an empty space by shrinking an existing partition with gparted, then what ?
[10:46] <ikonia> kristenbb: make a new partition and encypt it using whatever tool you like
[10:46] <kristenbb> ikonia: how ?
[10:46] <ikonia> netmole: I'd suggest a clean full install
[10:46] <ikonia> netmole: unless you have a reason to use the mini.iso
[10:46] <elhadj> slt
[10:47] <netmole> ikonia only one reason was i did not had  dvd medium and i am replaced disk so that is reason why i am used  mini iso
[10:47] <mouhamadou-moust> momo
[10:47] <elhadj> iguitikgkgjjjjjjjkj
[10:47] <ikonia> netmole: do a full install then
[10:48] <kristenbb> ikonia: how can I make the unallocated space be used as an encrypted swap for the current system ?
[10:49] <ikonia> kristenbb: you need to format it for swap/encypt it using the methond you like to use
[10:49] <ikonia> kristenbb: I've said this 4 - 5 times now
[10:49] <kristenbb> ikonia: yes but i'm sorry i don't know how to do that, can you be more precise please ?
[10:49] <ikonia> kristenbb: it sounds from what you've said so far like you have no need for encypted swap
[10:49] <ikonia> kristenbb: I'd suggest not using it as you're making your system more complex
[10:50] <kristenbb> ikonia: i just want to end up with the same configuration as the other system that I have. How can I make it use the /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 ?
[10:51] <Nero_> AlexPortable that would help.
[10:51] <ikonia> kristenbb: I don't think you have need for it so I'm going to back away from it
[10:51] <Benyamin> hello everyone. i need help, i just wana figured why why ubuntu and xubuntu install ext3 file system by default not ext4. can anyone explain it? and why when using e4defrag using sudo, there's still some part on the HDD cant be defrag?
[10:51] <AlexPortable> Nero_: no i mean, i want to keep user switching
[10:51] <AlexPortable> but just not on the lockscreen
[10:51] <ikonia> Benyamin: what version of xubuntu ?
[10:51] <ikonia> Benyamin: and what version of ubuntu
[10:52] <Benyamin> ikonia: Both of them 14.04
[10:52] <netmole> ikonia: one reason  why i am trying to fix it is reason  because my supliers can deliver me dvd medias in monday so i am try to find out how to make it working without full reinstall
[10:52] <ikonia> Benyamin: then it defaults to ext4
[10:52] <Benyamin> ikonia: now i on win7 for while
[10:52] <ikonia> netmole: just wait until monday
[10:52] <ikonia> netmole: do a proper install
[10:53] <Benyamin> ikonia: but why on ext2fs it read as ext3?
[10:53] <ikonia> Benyamin: what ?
[10:53] <AlexPortable> What do I have to change in gparted to make it boot ubuntu by defualt?
[10:53] <AlexPortable> uefi mode
[10:54] <eeee> AlexPortable: do you get a grub menu?
[10:55] <kristenbb> ikonia: it is said on the ubuntu.com help page that it is strongly recommended to encrypt the swap, so I would like that please, can you help me to achieve that ?
[10:55] <ikonia> kristenbb: no
[10:55] <kristenbb> ikonia: :
[10:56] <kristenbb> !(
[10:56] <ikonia> kristenbb: it's recommened if you have a genuine need for it
[10:56] <kristenbb> :(
[10:56] <kristenbb> i do have the need for it
[10:56] <ikonia> I don't believe you do, I believe you are going to make a problem with your system, so I'm not going to progress this
[10:56] <Benyamin> ikonia: http://s12.postimg.org/lb0do5awt/Untitled.jpg check this
[10:56] <kristenbb> am I not able to say what I need or not ? :(
[10:56] <ikonia> Benyamin: that's windows
[10:57] <Nero_> AlexPortable You are looking for this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/153930/how-to-permanently-disable-user-switching-in-gnome-3
[10:57] <ikonia> Benyamin: that's nothing to do with linux
[10:57] <ikonia> Benyamin: the ext file system driver for windows is poor, do not use it as a judgement for whats going on within your linux system/filesystems
[10:57] <Benyamin> ikonia: yeah. but why as ext3?
[10:57] <ikonia> Benyamin: it's not
[10:57] <ikonia> Benyamin: ignore it
[10:57] <Benyamin> ikonia: okay, i just asking bro, don't be angry lol
[10:57] <ikonia> Benyamin: I'm not angry
[10:57] <Benyamin> ikonia: i confused sometimes so i ask here
[10:58] <ikonia> Benyamin: fine, and I'm explaining to you,
[10:58] <Benyamin> ikonia: but thanks for answering,
[10:58] <AlexPortable> Nero_: well that's permanently. i want to allow user switching, just not from the lockscreen
[10:58] <kristenbb> ikonia: you do look angry, i'm just asking something and you're saying i don't need it, so you won't answer even though you know :(
[10:59] <ikonia> kristenbb: ok.
[10:59] <Nero_> AlexPortable So, you basically want to change the GRUB boot order?
[11:00] <AlexPortable> not grub
[11:00] <AlexPortable> it boots on efi file windows by defualt
[11:01] <AlterIW> AlexPortable, download EasyBCD and use it to add Linux to the MBR for Windows
[11:01] <AlexPortable> mbr is for bios right?
[11:01] <AlterIW> AlexPortable, no it's basically the Windows grub
[11:01] <ikonia> yes
[11:01] <ikonia> you need efi
[11:02] <ikonia> no it's not the windows grub
[11:02] <ikonia> mbr is nothing to do with windows
[11:02] <Nero_> it is not the windows grub at all.
[11:02] <Blenda> I want to install JackAudio, search in SC gives many answers, is it "jackd" (version5) ?
[11:02] <eeee> AlexPortable: he means add it to the bootmgr of windows, AlterIW you don't need easyBCD for that,
[11:03] <Nero_> AlexPortable you can use a software called easyBCD on windows. or alternatively you can also have ubuntu as the defalut boot OS from the command line interface of ubuntu.
[11:03] <jpickett> Hi, I've accidently downloaded the amd64+mac iso image, can I install that on a non-mac PC?
[11:04] <AlterIW> jpickett, no it only holds mac drivers not windows.
[11:04] <AlterIW> Hardware related not windows sorry
[11:06] <Nero_> kristenbb ikonia is patiently looking into your queries since long. None is angry here about anything. Please do not jump to conclusions.
[11:06] <AlexPortable> how to do it as default os?
[11:06] <backSlasher> current pip breaks with latest "requests" package. Should I file a bug on it?
[11:06] <Nero_> AlexPortable. have you downloaded the easyBCD on windows?
[11:08] <AlexPortable> no
[11:08] <AlexPortable> i meant "alternatively you can also have ubuntu as the defalut boot OS from the command line interface of ubuntu."
[11:08] <Nero_> AlexPortable do that. It will help.
[11:08] <AlexPortable> how?
[11:09] <bazhang> backSlasher, on debian?
[11:09] <AlexPortable> i prefer not to use windows
[11:09] <backSlasher> bazhang, actually on ubuntu 14.04
[11:10] <backSlasher> bazhang, http://paste.debian.net/118541/
[11:10] <AlexPortable> some parts of ubuntu interface in system settings are not in my native language. how can i solve this?
[11:11] <Nero_> AlexPortable here you go. https://neosmart.net/Download/Register/1
[11:12] <eeee> AlexPortable: you don't need easyBCD to modify anything
[11:12] <Nero_> AlexPortable. This software must be installed on windows and you can configure what OS you want to primarily boot into.
[11:12] <cfhowlett> eeee, ^^^ this
[11:13] <cfhowlett> eeee, agree with eeee that easyBCD should NOT be required and ... by any chance are you using the windows installer / wubi?
[11:13] <Blenda> I want to install JackAudio, search in SC gives many answers, is it "jackd" (version5) ?
[11:13] <Nero_> AlexPortable. Like I said you can run these commands on the ubuntu terminal if you don't prefer windows to alter your boot priority.
[11:14] <eeee> AlexPortable: http://superuser.com/questions/696838/installed-updated-windows-8-uefi-after-ubuntu-restore-grub
[11:15] <eeee> have a look at solution2 ( use bcdedit in windows )
[11:16] <AlexPortable> how can I put ' on e to make é ?
[11:17] <eeee> unicode 0039
[11:17] <geirha> depends on your keyboard layout (language)
[11:17] <eeee> sorry 00E9
[11:17] <AlexPortable> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/Keyboard_heatmap_for_German_%28QWERTY%29.png
[11:17] <backSlasher> So pip breaks on Ubuntu but not on Debian when python package "requests" is updated to latest. Should I file a bug on it?
[11:18] <AlexPortable> geirha: ^
[11:18] <AlexPortable> i set it to us internation with dead keys
[11:19] <eeee> AlexPortable: press ctrl+shift+u, then type 00e9, then press space
[11:19] <geirha> Then someone from the US can probably tell you
[11:19] <AlexPortable> eeee: well that's not usable
[11:19] <eeee> actually just e9 works, without 00e9
[11:19] <AlexPortable> i want to do it like windows
[11:19] <AlexPortable> press ' and press e and then é appears
[11:20] <geirha> With norwegian keyboard layout, it's RightAlt + key just left of backspace  then hit e
[11:20] <eeee> ctrl+shift+u, then e9
[11:20] <AlexPortable> ...
[11:20] <AlexPortable> do you really think I can learn my grandma how to do this?
[11:20] <AlexPortable> while on windows i press ' and then e ?
[11:20] <AlexPortable> instead of ctrlshiftu + e9
[11:20] <geirha> AlexPortable: Same in Ubuntu if you use a layout with dead keys
[11:21] <rtur> Hey guys. The package libopenni-sensor-primesense0 from universe is also provided by a third party mirror I use. I want to install the version from universe and thought to use the packagename/archive syntax for it but it's the same for both mirrors. Is there an other way to tell apt to use a package from one mirror and not the other ? In what order does apt source the files from sources.list.d ? Maybe I could
[11:21] <AlexPortable> nope
[11:21] <rtur> just rename the files so the universe mirror would be sourced first.
[11:21] <AlexPortable> geirha: it shows ' right when i press it
[11:21] <AlexPortable> not waiting for space or something
[11:21] <geirha> AlexPortable: your Mac keyboard didn't have the ' character anywhere though
[11:21] <AlexPortable> im not on a mac
[11:21] <AlexPortable> it's similar layout as that
[11:21] <AlexPortable> can't find good layout
[11:22] <YamakasY> where are dependencies of a packages checked before it installs ?
[11:23] <geirha> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_keyboard_layout  this is similar to norwegian layouut. I hit Alt gr + ' (the one next to backspace), then e
[11:23] <geirha> AlexPortable: Alternatively, try #ubuntu-de
[11:23] <backSlasher> bazhang, do you knwo if a bug report will be helpful?
[11:23] <AlexPortable> http://dry.sailingissues.com/keyboard-US-International.png
[11:23] <AlexPortable> this is the right layout
[11:25] <geirha> AlexPortable: So not german ...
[11:26] <AlexPortable> no
[11:26] <Nero_> ikonia
[11:27] <geirha> AlexPortable: Alt Gr+E ?
[11:27] <AlexPortable> well somehow it changed back to normal now
[11:28] <AlexPortable> but it still allows me to put ' s on the s
[11:28] <Ririshi> Hey there
[11:28] <AlexPortable> hi
[11:29] <Ririshi> I have a dual monitor setup and I'd like my right monitor to be the primary monitor, while he launcher is on the left one. Is that possible?
[11:30] <AlexPortable> settings > monitors
[11:30] <AlexPortable> 'show starter on..'
[11:31] <Ririshi> Using that option automatically makes the monitor with starter/launcher the primary one...
[11:31] <Ririshi> At least in Trusty with Unity
[11:31] <Eliop> hello, i'm trying to install a plugin for keepass, but it doesnt work
[11:31] <Eliop> it says this: To install simply drop the KeeOtp.dll and the OtpSharp.dll in the root of your KeePass directory. The dlls can be obtained either by building the source yourself using msbuild or by downloading the latest zip file on the downloads section of this site.
[11:32] <Eliop> the root of my keepass directory
[11:32] <Eliop> is usr/share/keepass?
[11:33] <hualet_deepin> Eliop: dynamic libs are not called *.dll, perhaps the wrong instruction?
[11:34] <hualet_deepin> Eliop: sorry, i mean under linux
[11:34] <Eliop> https://bitbucket.org/devinmartin/keeotp/wiki/Home
[11:34] <Eliop> ive found it here
[11:34] <Eliop> oh
[11:35] <Eliop> what shall i do then? im ost
[11:35] <Eliop> lost
[11:37] <namenick> Does anybody know is it possible to add a global menu item in Unity Launcher? By 'global menu item' I mean something like 'Unlock from Launcher' and I would like to add something like 'Uninstall this application'.
[11:38] <Nero_> Eliop Shoot !
[11:41] <ikonia> Nero_: what ?
[11:43] <Nero_> ikonia I thought you went offline!
[11:44] <ikonia> what do you want ?
[11:44] <Nero_> So, should i go ahead with xubuntu or lubuntu?
[11:44] <ikonia> you can install what you want, why are you asking me ?
[11:45] <Nero_> ikonia or the system config I've mentioned will i be missing a lot on Ubuntu if I go ahead with Lubuntu ?
[11:46] <Nero_> *for
[11:48] <hualet_deepin_> Nero_: if Unity can't make you happy, just do the switch, it's not that hard
[11:49] <ikonia> Nero_: it's a totally different desktop experience
[11:50] <Vesinik> tere
[11:50] <SirLagz> has anyone had a multiseat setup where whenever the second set logs in, the main seat drops to a flashing cursor and needs a ctrl-alt-f7 to get back into X ?
[11:50] <Nero_> ikonia all right. :/
[11:52] <Vesinik> tk
[11:52] <Vesinik> ls
[11:52] <Vesinik> ls
[11:52] <Vesinik> l
[11:52] <Vesinik> sl
[11:52] <Vesinik> sl
[11:52] <Vesinik> lss
[11:52] <unopaste> Vesinik you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[11:56] <Netham45> Is there an ARM bootstrap image?
[11:56] <Netham45> Er, a core system image, I should say.
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> !arm
[11:59] <Unmatthew> ping
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> pong
[12:01] <Nero_> Ask !
[12:03] <Nero_> Please ask !
[12:04] <Nero_> dammit !
[12:04] <Nero_> who the fuck did that?
[12:05] <ikonia> tone the language down
[12:05] <ikonia> I've already warned you - please stop
[12:05] <Nero_> ikonia I'm extremely sorry about it. It was my brother !
[12:05] <ikonia> no it wasn't
[12:05] <ikonia> just stop it
[12:05] <compdoc> heh
[12:05] <Nero_> it was !
[12:06] <ikonia> Nero_: you've done it twice now, I don't care who it is, stop it
[12:06] <Nero_> My sincere apologies !
[12:06] <Cuppa_coffee> it doesnt matter, all those offended type /clear and we should be good to go
[12:06] <bialykot> hi
[12:08] <Nero_> ikonia My vendor (Lenovo) hasn't wriiten software for accessing some features on my laptop using the function keys. How do I get over this impediment?
[12:09] <ikonia> Nero_: there are packages for thinkpad and toshiba laptops for hot key configuration
[12:09] <ikonia> Nero_: failing that you'd have to manually map them
[12:09] <deepubuntu> how can I turn on automatic updates for any software or browser in ubuntu
[12:09] <Nero_> ikonia is there a way i can compile the software myself for ubuntu? if so, how?
[12:09] <ikonia> Nero_: you don't need to
[12:10] <ikonia> there are pacakges in the ubuntu repos (universe I think) for hotkeys on thinkpads
[12:14] <Nero_> Hello?
[12:14] <anonymous8171225> Hi
[12:16] <kantex-wolf> Hello
[12:20] <jiaanq> why can't I see people talking
[12:20] <cfhowlett> jiaanq, ask your ubuntu question
[12:21] <cvetan> because no one is talkind :D
[12:21] <cvetan> *talking
[12:22] <mx_> cvetan, if nobody has a question - its normal ^^
[12:22] <cvetan> just kiddin
[12:23] <mx_> anyone facing issues with qjack and changin settings?
[12:23] <mx_> UST 14.04 that is! i had same problem on 13.04
[12:23] <Wojo> Hi, anyone on 12.04 with stable google-chrome misbehaving - constantly freezing upon start, coorupting profile - after latest upgrade from google repo?
[12:24] <cfhowlett> !ubuntustudio | mx_, or ask #opensourcemusicians
[12:24] <mx_> Wojo, had issues on 12.10 with it - still some on 14.04 - use firefox
[12:24] <Wojo> mx_: not for me, but user wants google-chrome specifically
[12:25] <cvetan> why don't you use chromium?
[12:25] <mx_> Wojo, its coming from the silverlight - flash package - chromium should work but a bit unstable
[12:25] <cvetan> haven't noticed.
[12:26] <mx_> cfhowlett, ask?
[12:26] <Wojo> chromium might do the trick, but additional lib for flash would be necessary
[12:26] <nick9933><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:26] <nick9933> ?
[12:26] <cfhowlett> mx_, ask #ubuntustudio or #opensourcemusicians for jack help
[12:26] <nick9933> join ?
[12:26] <cvetan> chromium is in ubuntu repositories.
[12:26] <qjqqyy> nick9933: you're on freenode
[12:26] <cvetan> it is and open source project, therefore i always use chromium.
[12:27] <nick9933> join<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:27] <cfhowlett> !join
[12:27] <cvetan> in ubuntu.
[12:27] <mx_> Wojo, it will be inside already
[12:27] <qjqqyy> nick9933: https://lolicon.eu/stuff/boku%20no%20piko/
[12:27] <qjqqyy> oops wrong paste
[12:27] <qjqqyy> nick9933: https://qchat.rizon.net/
[12:28] <Wojo> mx_: you mean pepper flash plugin already in the bundle for chromium packet in the repo?
[12:28] <mx_> cfhowlett, oh right yeah sorry wrong box
[12:28] <Wojo> or is there an additional packet I need to obtain to get it working while getting rid of google-chrome and its repos
[12:28] <cvetan> i think it is already there.
[12:29] <Wojo> cool, thanks for the info. I will let the user know.
[12:29] <mx_> Wojo, no idea if is salt or pepper dude - it works out of the box i know that much - i dont remember even adding anything for flash to work -
[12:29] <cvetan> i now there is a ppa for the pepper flash.
[12:30] <cvetan> but i also thing that is for the latest versions.
[12:30] <cvetan> just if you want to update it.
[12:30] <andyland> Någon som är bra zfs här?
[12:30] <mx_> Wojo, but flash never really worked and never will on linux - im affraid....
[12:31] <Wojo> mx_: that's another thing :)
[12:31] <mx_> Wojo, will still be a bit unstable and laggy and fewer option (eg setting HD or turn it off and so on~)
[12:31] <Wojo> mx_, cvetan: looks like there is a pepperflashplugin-nonfree on 14.04 and ppa for other releases https://launchpad.net/~skunk/+archive/ubuntu/pepper-flash
[12:31] <Wojo> thanks for your support
[12:33] <mx_> Wojo, no worries - thats why we are here -  we are not all caustic d*** :P
[12:35] <nick9933> irc.rizen.net
[12:35] <simonas> hello
[12:36] <cfhowlett> simonas, greetings.  your ubuntu issue???
[12:36] <simonas> nothin, just chilling
[12:37] <simonas> i use xubuntu
[12:54] <melanie> bonjour
[12:56] <mx_> Mellett68, bonjour -
[12:57] <_unreal_> hum net split party
[12:58] <patates> hi,can't display ISO-8859-2 encoded files, ".srt" files, in text editors, any idea how to display them?
[12:58] <loa> how i can make something like sticky notes under ubuntu?
[12:59] <loa> sometimes i need to record little things.
[12:59] <mx_> patates, tried a notepad?
[12:59] <hualet_deepin_> loa: tomboy?
[12:59] <loa> and don't want to loose them.
[12:59] <mx_> loa, in accesories there is a note app
[12:59] <patates> yeah tried geany, scite and some others, mx_
[13:00] <mx_> patates, and liboffice? via their word app?
[13:00] <mx_> patates, ultimately what are you trying to achieve?
[13:01] <patates> yep, it looks bad with writer too, I want to display them. they look corrupted, but they look fine on windows, mx_
[13:01] <mx_> omg my football socks are stinky as fuck
[13:01] <loa> hualet_deepin_, wow https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.08.31-17%3A01%3A24.png
[13:01] <loa> i am not ready for this.
[13:01] <mx_> patates, try paint - or gimp like apps and impliment it then -
[13:01] <loa> mx_, where i need to search?
[13:02] <loa> accesories?
[13:02] <loa> what is it?
[13:02] <mx_> loa, ubuntu logo -> accesories -> notes
[13:02] <loa> mx_, you using gnome or what?
[13:03] <mx_> loa, no...? ubuntu?? as per channel's name???
[13:03] <loa> i have search when i click on ubuntu logo
[13:04] <mx_> loa, the one top left corner? (or wherever you put it?) - what version of ubuntu you have?
[13:04] <loa> mx_, 14.04
[13:04] <mx_> ohhh i get it - type note in that then loa
[13:04] <loa> i have russian locale
[13:04] <trijntje> mx_: you are not running ubuntu, ubuntu has a search menu when you open the menu
[13:05] <loa> mx_, i have there only note from wine
[13:05] <loa> mx_, i typed that already.
[13:05] <trijntje> and there is note app installed by default, only gedit
[13:05] <trijntje> !info tomboy
[13:05] <loa> trijntje, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.08.31-17%3A01%3A24.png
[13:05] <mx_> trijntje, I HAVE 14.04 AND ust - AND BOTH HAVE THAT GRAPHIC CONF - YOU KNOW YOU CAN SET ALL OF THAT UP RIGHT??
[13:06] <hualet_deepin> loa: too much dependencies?
[13:06] <loa> hualet_deepin, mono
[13:06] <mattxtn> mx_ you're trying to read subrip .srt files?
[13:06] <hualet_deepin> loa: alright, i hate it, either ;)
[13:07] <mx_> mattxtn, nope - patates is the man
[13:07] <mattxtn> oh, oops
[13:07] <patates> I am trying to read ISO8859-2 srt files
[13:08] <loa> hualet_deepin, it is not about hate. I think just too heavy for such solution.
[13:08] <mattxtn> patates: those are subtitles right?
[13:08] <patates> yeah, mattxtn