[11:16] <nutshell42> Whiz2: yes; best remove the symbolic links to it from /etc/rc*.d, too
[11:16] <Whiz2> nutshell42: ok
[11:16] <david_> Whiz2: A friend and I need to install VNC but when we Adepted tightvnc it did not automaticly start and we do not know how to fix it.
[11:17] <Whiz2> david_: are you trying to get it to start when you load the computer, or the desktop?
[11:17] <Whiz2> guess i wont' find out til he returns
[11:17] <nutshell42> david_: that's probably not what you wanna hear; but have you thought about using NX (www.nomachine.com)?
[11:18] <Whiz2> nutshell42: i use vncserver package
[11:18] <david_> Whiz32: I JUST installed tightvnc but I would like it to start when kubuntu starts
[11:18] <nutshell42> Whiz2: I use NX because it feels snappier than vnc
[11:19] <Whiz2> mine doesn't autostart either, but i don't start my desktop... if I could, i'd get it to run as my user when the system itself starts. (because I never load my desktop)
[11:19] <nutshell42> or ssh's X tunneling
[11:19] <Whiz2> nutshell42: i use vncserver because i use vnc on all my computers
[11:19] <Whiz2> david_: try aptitude install vncserver
[11:19] <nutshell42> Whiz2: that's not much of an argument, unless we're taking about dozens of them =)
[11:19] <Whiz2> you can have that start each time you start your desktop
[11:20] <Whiz2> nutshell42: i access them all from one computer, and i don't want to install a bunch of diff things in order to access diff computers
[11:20] <NetersLandreau> i have a problem.. did the upgrade to 7 and now my computer won't boot even in single user mode.. hangs setting up console font and keymap.. any clues?
[11:20] <Whiz2> specially since i use a vista PC to access them
[11:20] <nutshell42> didn't kde's desktop sharing start vnc automatically when you shared your desktop?
[11:21] <pattieja> When I did the automatic updates on Friday, Kubuntu said there was a new version available (Feisty Fawn).  So, I said 'yes' to automatically upgrade to that version.  I came back after the weekend, and had to babysit some of the upgrade details, since I made local changes to certain files, but then, when the installer got to the point that it wanted to remove outdated packages, it crashed when I selected 'remove'.  At that point, it ga
[11:21] <pattieja> ve me instructions to file a bug report, but when I clicked on the button to file the report, that crashed too, and I was left with my desktop.  So, I rebooted, since that was the next step the installer wanted to do.  Now, everything is extremely slow, and I am barely able to get the TWM window manager running (from which I have (barely) launched xchat).  KDE does not function correctly.  I am not able to login through the login windo
[11:21] <nutshell42> Whiz2: what I meant is that you could just as easily install NX on all of them
[11:21] <pattieja> w (may not be being patient enough).  I do not get a KDE splash screen.  So, I moved my .kde/ and .kderc files out of the way and ran 'xinit /usr/bin/startkde -- :1', which proceeded to (excrutiatingly slowly) take me through the KDE customization wizard.  However, when I finally got to a desktop, dialogs kept popping up stating that the trash protocol had unexpectedly died, and the something else had unexpectedly died, and did a few d
[11:21] <pattieja> ifferent protocols before it quit.  I was not able to logout.
[11:21] <wilman> what is the config file of xine?
[11:21] <pattieja> and I cannot bring up a browser to search for solutions
[11:21] <bobleny> !kubuntu | bobleny
[11:21] <wilman> !xine
[11:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <david_> how do i start vncserver?
[11:21] <wilman> !Xine
[11:22] <david_> I try to connect and i get nothing
[11:22] <Whiz2> pattieja: next time it might be a better idea to paste that to http://pastebin.ubuntu.org/ instead of here
[11:22] <nutshell42> pattieja: are other DE's just as slow as kde?
[11:22] <pattieja> Whiz2, k
[11:22] <Whiz2> david_: at the command line, type vncserver
[11:22] <david_> I did
[11:22] <nutshell42> pattieja: what does top say?
[11:22] <pattieja> nutshell42, twm seems to be ok
[11:22] <nutshell42> pattieja: firefox?
[11:22] <Whiz2> dave_: should say something like "X-Desktop is network:X
[11:22] <pattieja> nutshell42, firefox doesn't even come up
[11:22] <david_> But it asked me for a password... i entered it... said it was started than i try to vnc to it with nothing
[11:23] <pattieja> nutshell42, top: load average: 0.15, 0.18, 0.18
[11:23] <nutshell42> if it does run, try to kill gam_server or fam_server, or something that sounds like that
[11:23] <nutshell42> paste a list of processes that contain gam or fam
[11:23] <nutshell42> *before* killing them
[11:23] <nutshell42> at least in debian that usually explains extremely slow kde
[11:23] <pattieja> nutshell42, currently the only process with 'server' in the name is dcopserver
[11:23] <Whiz2> david_: try removing tightvnc and vncserver then apt-get install vncserver again
[11:24] <nutshell42> pattieja: look for gam or fam
[11:24] <pattieja> nutshell42, there are no 'fam' or 'gam' processes
[11:24] <david_> k
[11:24] <pattieja> nutshell42, ps auxww | grep {fam|gam} shows nothing
[11:24] <nutshell42> could you paste the output of ps to pastebin?
[11:24] <pattieja> (separate commands, of course)
[11:24] <Whiz2> dave_: also make sure that if you're accessing through a router using the internet that you have TCP port 5900 routed to the IP address of that computer on the network
[11:25] <Whiz2> david_: if you don't, then your vnc viewer application will not be able to access the vncserver at all
[11:26] <nutshell42> pattieja: back to my original point; is everything slow or just kde? does firefox (or opera) run ok?
[11:26] <pattieja> nutshell42, firefox does not come up
[11:26] <uros> hi all. how do i test if my microphone is working? i have a program that looks for it in /dev/dsp by default - is this OK?
[11:27] <pattieja> nutshell42, hmm.  firefox-bin is in the Tl state as shown by 'ps'
[11:28] <pattieja> nutshell42, how do I paste to pastebin without a browser?
[11:28] <nutshell42> good point, send me a privmsg
[11:29] <jarle> isn't it possible to use symlinks in /etc/cron.weekly/ ? I have made a symlink to a script there, but it doesn't seem like the script is started...
[11:30] <Whiz2> nutshell42: there were no symbolic links in /etc/rc*.d for lighttpd so i'm not worried bout that :-)
[11:30] <TJensen> How do I control the settings of /media/.hal-mtab? It is automatically written when e.g. a USB device is added
[11:31] <david_> Whiz2: still not working
[11:31] <Whiz2> david_: is the computer you're trying to connect on your local network?
[11:31] <nutshell42> david_: does ssh tunneling work?
[11:32] <david_> Yes... and I dk
[11:32] <pattieja> nutshell42, did you get it?
[11:32] <Whiz2> dave_: does vncserver work on your other PCs on the same net?
[11:32] <nutshell42> pattieja: no
[11:32] <david_> yes
[11:33] <pattieja> nutshell42, hmm.
[11:33] <pattieja> I'm using xchat
[11:33] <nutshell42> open a dialog window and paste
[11:33] <nutshell42> if you did that
[11:33] <pattieja> I right-clicked on your name, opened a dialog window, pasted the ps output there, and then hit enter
[11:33] <nutshell42> then perhaps the servers doing some filtering stuff
[11:33] <nutshell42> strange
[11:33] <nutshell42> just write me something
[11:33] <pattieja> just did
[11:33] <nutshell42> in the dialog window I mean
[11:33] <Whiz2> david_: when you started the server did it tell you that X-dexktop was network:1?
[11:33] <pattieja> exactly
[11:34] <nutshell42> nothing
[11:34] <david_> Whiz: What all this about a XDMCP? Do i have to enable it or something
[11:34] <nutshell42> are there any server msgs?
[11:34] <david_> Yes
[11:34] <pattieja> heh
[11:34] <pattieja> guess I need to register
[11:34] <nutshell42> god, that's stupid
[11:35] <Whiz2> dave_: paste the entire message you got from the server to http://pastebin.ubuntu.org then paste the URL to the paste here, so i can have a look
[11:35] <Whiz2> david_: everything after you typed vncserver
[11:35] <pattieja> nutshell42, trying again...
[11:35] <nutshell42> woohoo
[11:35] <uros> hi all. i have a program that records microphone on /dev/dsp by default. since it does not work, is the adress ok? anything else i should check?
[11:36] <Whiz2> uros: might try changing the default address
[11:36] <pattieja> how about now?
[11:36] <pattieja> :)
[11:36] <pattieja> uros, make sure your mixer settings are correct
[11:36] <pattieja> uros, you might have to send /dev/dsp certain ioctl's also.
[11:36] <nutshell42> pattieja: the flood protection works very slowly, so it'll take some time
[11:36] <pattieja> nutshell42, k
[11:37] <david_> http://pastebin.ca/456526
 root      2222  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   14:35
[11:37] <pattieja> nutshell42, I hope the server didn't queue up my previous messages before I was registered and send those, too.
[11:37] <nutshell42> it stopped after that one
[11:37] <nutshell42> no it didn't
[11:37] <uros> pattieja: tnx. what are ioctl's?
[11:37] <uros> whiz2: what could be alternatives?
[11:38] <sylpheed> vncserver
[11:38] <sylpheed> oops
[11:38] <Whiz2> uros: any device which is an actual device on your system (example: /dev/hdc1 if that is a disk device)
[11:39] <MajorApus> so it turns out that "Albatron PX865PE" drivers work well for my card, even tho its totally different, how would I tell it to use them??
[11:39] <Whiz2> dave_: vncserver -kill 1 (repeat that for 234 and 5, then wait a moment, try again, then paste again)
[11:39] <soulrider__> are there any programs i can use to easily write formulae with Latex ?
[11:39] <Whiz2> david_: sorry... vncserver -kill :1
[11:39] <nutshell42> pattieja: while it slowly pastes: does lynx work? what does a strace of konqueror say?
[11:40] <pattieja> uros, an ioctl is a communication channel between userspace and kernelspace
[11:40] <pattieja> basically
[11:40] <jhutchins> MajorApus: Somewhere in the modules config, alias <baddriver> <driverthatworks>.
[11:40] <MajorApus> jhutchins: where is the modules config?
[11:41] <MajorApus> jhutchins: whould I need to download the driver or is it already includeD?
[11:41] <pattieja> nutshell42, I do have links installed and running
[11:41] <jhutchins> MajorApus: Unfortunately, it's all over the place, modprobe.conf, modules.d/, etc.
[11:41] <david_> Whiz2: http://pastebin.ca/456536
[11:41] <pattieja> nutshell42, my home directory is on NFS
[11:41] <jhutchins> MajorApus: If you find a file that's got aliases in it, go ahead and define it there.
[11:41] <jhutchins> MajorApus: No idea about the specifics of that driver.
[11:42] <pattieja> nutshell42, an strace of konqueror just paused at
[11:42] <MajorApus> jhutchins: its possible I dont need to do that tho, basically I just want my spdif optical digital output to work
[11:42] <pattieja> open("/exports/people/pattieja/.qt/.qt_plugins_3.3rc.lock", O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_LARGEFILE, 0600) = 9
[11:42] <pattieja> fcntl64(9, F_SETLKW64, {type=F_RDLCK, whence=SEEK_SET, start=0, len=0}
[11:42] <MajorApus> jhutchins: i heard somehwere that there is a way to activate it
[11:42] <Whiz2> dave_: now paste the contents of /home/david/.vnc/David-Laptop:2.log
[11:42] <jhutchins> MajorApus: Hah.  Good luck with that.
[11:42] <nutshell42> pattieja: try creating a new user with a local ~
[11:42] <pattieja> and ~/.qt/.qtrc.lock
[11:42] <pattieja> I don't think the version of NFS on the server handles locks properly
[11:42] <MajorApus> jhutchins: linux doesn't support digital out? because if it cant its a joek
[11:42] <MajorApus> joke*
[11:42] <jhutchins> MajorApus: That's one of the major headaches with some newer cards.  The other one is that it defaults to spdif and you get nothing from the speaker jack.
[11:42] <MajorApus> jhutchins: my card is 4 years old
[11:43] <david_> Whiz2: the file is empty
[11:43] <Daisuke_Ido> and in other news, i continue to hate my clone xbox 360 gamepad
[11:43] <jhutchins> Sound cards and ubuntu right now are a roll of the dice.
[11:43] <Daisuke_Ido> since, of course, it's not usable in linux :\
[11:43] <pattieja> nutshell42, I will attempt to login using a local user account
[11:44] <pattieja> thanks for the assist
[11:44] <Whiz2> david_: longshot... try rebooting the computer, then run it again & try to access it.
[11:44] <nutshell42> pattieja: hey, the ps is finished
[11:44] <pattieja> yeah?
[11:44] <nutshell42> god, flood protection can be too zealous
[11:44] <nutshell42> I never thought I'd say that sometime
[11:45] <nutshell42> pattieja: but you're right, NFS sounds like a likely culprit
[11:45] <pattieja> I'm thinking that something is probably missing in my installation that didn't get completed during the upgrade
[11:45] <pattieja> Edgy Eft never had these kinds of problems
[11:45] <nutshell42> unfortunatly, in my experience, nfs is extremely hard to debug
[11:45] <nutshell42> one reason I use sfs
[11:46] <pattieja> what's sfs?
[11:46] <nutshell42> a wrapper around nfs
[11:46] <Whiz2> i can safely copy/resize entire partitions using gparted without losing data right?
[11:46] <nutshell42> that tunnels nfs through ssh basically
[11:46] <nutshell42> it also has a global namespace, but the real point is that you can debug nfs and the network connection seperatly
[11:46] <pattieja> nutshell42, sounds like it could be slow too, plus introduce other issues
[11:46] <Daisuke_Ido> at least i have my trusty logitech gamepad...
[11:46] <nutshell42> although it probably won't help much in this case
[11:47] <pattieja> although it does present a neat ability to tunnel NFS over the Internet in a secure fashion
[11:47] <nutshell42> it *is* a lot easier to debug and more reliable than nfs ime
[11:47] <david_> Whiz2: nothing
[11:47] <nutshell42> but I'm not sure I'd wanna try it as ~
[11:47] <Whiz2> dave_: hang on a sec. lemme check something
[11:48] <nutshell42> that said, for normal operations it's snappy enough
[11:48] <david_> want ssh?
[11:48] <david_> I MIGHT be able too figure that out
[11:48] <pattieja> well, need to logout to login as another user, bbl
[11:48] <nutshell42> david_: I know I've already asked, but I'm not sure your reply was for me; does X tunneling with ssh work?
[11:48] <david_> I never tryed
[11:49] <imagine> how can I change the mount point on kubuntu?
[11:49] <nutshell42> david_: it would at least tell you that a connection is possible and that both X installations are sane
[11:49] <david_> nevermind ssh don't work ether lol
[11:50] <Whiz2> dave_: do youhave Xvnc installed, and/or running?
[11:50] <nutshell42> imagine: edit /etc/fstab
[11:50] <nutshell42> imagine: there could be a graphical way of doing it
[11:50] <nutshell42> but I don't know it =)
[11:50] <malik_> Does anyone know how to delete songs from the ipod?
[11:50] <malik_> or data?
[11:50] <Whiz2> david_: and does the viewer even give you a password prompt?
[11:50] <david_> No
[11:51] <david_> and Xvnc is a no also
[11:51] <david_> you only said vncserver
[11:51] <Whiz2> dave_: aptitude install xvnc
[11:51] <Whiz2> david_: you need that
[11:51] <nutshell42> david_: didn't krfb set up its own server?
[11:51] <jpattie_> hmm.  local user is lickety split
[11:51] <nutshell42> imagine: system settings -> advanced tab -> disk& filesystems
[11:52] <malik_> does anyone know how to delete  data from the ipod?
[11:52] <david_> Couldn't find package "xvnc".  However, the following
[11:52] <david_> packages contain "xvnc" in their name:
[11:52] <david_>   linuxvnc xvnc4viewer xvncviewer
[11:52] <nutshell42> malik_: didn't amarok have an ipod plugin? can't you delete stuff in their browser?
[11:53] <malik_> i cant see anything
[11:53] <Whiz2> dave_: try linuxxvnc
[11:53] <malik_> its a 2gig ipod
[11:53] <Whiz2> dave_: linuxvnc
[11:53] <malik_> and it says theres only 60mb left of free space
[11:53] <nutshell42> malik_: you can't see the ipod in amarok, or no way to delete stuff?
[11:53] <nutshell42> nothing in the right-click menu?
[11:54] <malik_> yea its there
[11:54] <malik_> but theres no music
[11:54] <malik_> and it says theres only 60mb left
[11:54] <david_> Whiz2: I did but still nothing
[11:55] <nutshell42> double-clicking? right-clicking?
[11:55] <nutshell42> malik_: open the amarok settings, media devices and try different plugins
[11:55] <anarko> hola
[11:55] <Whiz2> david_: do you have an x-server?
[11:55] <nutshell42> it should be set to apple ipod or something like that
[11:56] <david_> KDE
[11:56] <Whiz2> dave_: then i don't understand why it's not working
[11:56] <Whiz2> dave_: lemme check something else...
[11:56] <anarko> estoy buscando un antivirus para mi kubuntu para no pasar virus a los colegas con otros SO
[11:56] <malik_> no
[11:56] <malik_> I KNOW theres no songs in there
[11:56] <nutshell42> david_: didn't krfb set up its own server?
[11:56] <malik_> but its full
[11:56] <david_> WHAT is krfb?????????
[11:56] <fsdfsdffgd> huu! anyone knows how i can see the running processes? like alt&strg&del in windows? :O
[11:57] <malik_> and i dont know how to delete everything from it
[11:57] <pestilence> anarko: english here, spanish in #ubuntu-es
[11:57] <nutshell42> david_: kde's desktop sharing app; look in the kmenu
[11:57] <anarko> i'am sorry
[11:57] <nutshell42> I thought it it set up its own server, iirc from the one time I tried it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
[11:57] <Whiz2> david_: are you typing sudo before the vncserver command?
[11:57] <malik_> do you know how to restore ipod on linux?
[11:57] <SJrX> Anyone know with VMWare if its possible to get the autoresize guest feature working, easily?
[11:58] <pestilence> fsdfsdffgd: menu->system->KSysGuard
[11:58] <david_> Whiz2: no actually.... now i feel stupdi
[11:58] <fsdfsdffgd> thanks !
[11:58] <Whiz2> dave_: no don't do that
[11:58] <pestilence> malik_: you can format it using gtkpod
[11:58] <nutshell42> malik_: sorry, I'm just pointing you to the obvious settings, I've got no ipod =)
[11:59] <malik_> thanks
[11:59] <konrad> Hi, is it known that binary nvidia drivers doesnt work?
[11:59] <Whiz2> david_: no don't do that. you won't even be able to get to a desktop at all even if you can login if you type sudo before it
[11:59] <JohnFlux> fsdfsdffgd: or press ctrl+esc
[11:59] <david_> Whiz2: it don't work anyway lol
[12:00] <jpattie_> nutshell42, thanks for the help
[12:00] <pidgee> Hello all
[12:00] <malik_> you guys know when the kubuntu bugs are gonna be fixed?
[12:00] <nutshell42> jpattie_: nfs problem?
[12:00] <jpattie_> at least I have the right direction to go in, now.
[12:00] <pestilence> malik_: as soon as you report them
[12:00] <JohnFlux> malik_: what, all of them? :)
[12:00] <jpattie_> nutshell42, most likely.
[12:00] <nutshell42> jpattie_: I feared as much
[12:01] <pidgee> I try to upgrate edgy to festy... but it complains about space in /usr...
[12:01] <nutshell42> try removing the nfs config files, let apt reinstall them and then try to change as few lines as possible
[12:01] <nutshell42> I once traced a smb problem for half a day, no error msgs, no nothing
[12:01] <pestilence> pidgee: upgrading requires about a gig of free disk space
[12:02] <pidgee> it should be ok so... df -h returns "/dev/hda3             4,6G  3,2G  1,2G  73%"
[12:02] <nutshell42> until I found out that it was a documented option that was set but apparently removed in an ultraminor upgrade (xx.x.x to xx.x.xa in debian) and hung the whole server
[12:02] <pestilence> pidgee: you can try running "sudo apt-get clean", that will remove stuff you don't need anymore
[12:02] <Whiz2> david_: how exactly are you trying to access the server? by typing it's local network IP address followed by the port number? (aka <IP_ADDRESS>:5900)
[12:02] <Whiz2> david_: in the viewer options that is
[12:02] <pestilence> pidgee: 1.2G is cutting it close.
[12:02] <david_> yes
[12:02] <david_> yes
[12:02] <jpattie_> nutshell42, I'm running kubuntu on my desktop, not the server
[12:02] <pestilence> pidgee: anyways, the installer won't lie to you
[12:02] <pidgee> it complains for 16.9 M...
[12:03] <Whiz2> david_: are you  using a static IP address for the server?
[12:03] <pestilence> pidgee: so it should be easy to free up that much space
[12:03] <pestilence> pidgee: run apt-get clean...that will most likely do it
[12:03] <Legolas> Ciao a tutti
[12:03] <david_> dhcp but its the right ip according to ifconfig
[12:03] <malik_> omg
[12:03] <malik_> there was actually files in the ipod
[12:03] <jpattie_> nutshell42, so, I'm thinking that it might have something to do with the changes in either the way NFS works for Feisty or KDE
[12:03] <nutshell42> jpattie_: good point; sure that the nfs server wasn't updated at more or less the same time? those kind of problems are the hardest to find =)
[12:03] <pidgee> I did it already
[12:03] <nutshell42> but otherwise, you're probably right
[12:03] <jpattie_> nutshell42, the NFS server has not been updated
[12:04] <pestilence> pidgee: du -s -h /tmp ?
[12:04] <pidgee> 12M
[12:04] <nutshell42> if firefox hangs too, it's probably feisty
[12:04] <pestilence> pidgee: :-/
[12:04] <Whiz2> david_: go to http://realvnc.com to see if they have documentation for vncserver, and possibly a support area
[12:04] <david_> ok
[12:04] <david_> thank you
[12:04] <Whiz2> david_: you have everything setup correctly, so I don't see the problem
[12:04] <david_> bye
[12:05] <pestilence> pidgee: uninstall some program that is > 19 M :)
[12:05] <jpattie_> nutshell42, firefox works for the local user, but not the NFS mounted home user
[12:05] <nutshell42> jpattie_: yes, that's what I mean
[12:05] <nutshell42> jpattie_: you could try to downgrade some packages; but that's a pita with apt-get
[12:06] <jpattie_> I have an installation of firefox on the NFS server that is shared that I can try with the NFS user
[12:06] <Whiz2> anyone know anything about gparted?
[12:06] <nutshell42> jpattie_: do you need your user-settings synchronized on more than one pc?
[12:06] <nutshell42> Whiz2: it's a pos =P
[12:06] <anarko> hello
[12:06] <jpattie_> Whiz2, I always use qtparted
[12:06] <imagine> How do I change the Kmenu icon?
[12:07] <Whiz2> nutshell42: i'm trying to copy my linux system & linux swap partitions to another drive, then resize the system partition, then make the new system partition active, then physically swap them
[12:07] <jpattie_> nutshell42, I work in a lab that has many Linux/UNIX workstations
[12:07] <nutshell42> jpattie_: if not, you could just use local home-dir and mount the nfs share somewhere below that
[12:07] <jpattie_> everyone's home directory is exported via NFS
[12:07] <Whiz2> nutshell42: qtparted also GUI based?
[12:07] <nutshell42> jpattie_:  well, I guess your answer is: don't install feisty =)
[12:08] <nutshell42> Whiz2: yes
[12:08] <jpattie_> Whiz2, qtparted is GUI
[12:08] <Whiz2> tyty
[12:08] <anarko> i'am looking for an antivirus for kububtu+thunderbird
[12:09] <imagine> anarko: no virus on linux
[12:09] <nutshell42> anarko: clamav?
[12:09] <konrad> I found a bug in NVIDIA driver!
[12:09] <konrad> after rmod nvidia && insmod nvidia.ko from volataile directory drivers works!
[12:09] <imagine> How do I change the Kmenu icon?
[12:09] <Whiz2> odd... apt-get install didn't ask for permission to conrtinue before installing... it usually does ask
[12:09] <jpattie_> anarko, the long way round would be to setup something like procmail or fetchmail that would run your mail through clamav/clamscan as it downloads it from the server, then you connect to a mail proxy running on localhost that feeds thunderbird your mail
[12:10] <jpattie_> I have not personally done this.
[12:10] <jpattie_> I always implement virus scanning on the mail server
[12:10] <kristjan_> any way to check what blocks sound device?
[12:10] <jpattie_> kristjan_, lsof | grep /dev/dsp
[12:10] <jpattie_> most likely artsd
[12:10] <nutshell42> imagine: replace the icon file
[12:11] <nutshell42> kmenu.png and kmenu.svg
[12:11] <imagine> nutshell42: where is it located?
[12:11] <kristjan_> jpattie_: it doesn't show nothing, but there is about 10second hang
[12:11] <Whiz2> since i have a web/mail server on my system, (for outgoing mail only) should I install a virus scanner on linux?
[12:11] <jpattie_> kristjan_, if you run 'lsof' by itself, you'll know why.  :)
[12:12] <nutshell42> imagine: /usr/share/icons/ or your home-folder (~/.kde/share...) in a subdir with the name of your icon theme
[12:12] <nutshell42> there are a number of subdirs with the different icon sizes
[12:12] <Whiz2> nutshell42: how do i copy partitions across different drives?
[12:12] <Whiz2> nutshell42: using qtparted that is
[12:13] <kristjan_> so weird my sound is suddenly gone (I was following a few documentaries with flashplayer)
[12:13] <nutshell42> Whiz2: create a new partition on the new drive, format it, mount it, then copy everything
[12:13] <imagine> ty
[12:13] <nutshell42> I don't know if there's an easier way
[12:13] <Whiz2> nutshell42: will that work correctly for copying the linux system/swap partitions too?
[12:13] <nutshell42> evms could have some advanced features for that kind of stuff, but qtparted?