[03:11] <Ph1LZ> hey! quick question regarding 16.04: I'm changing my /etc/network/interfaces.d/50-cloud-init.cfg from dhcp to static IP but I'm losing my changes at each reboot. Can someone help me please? ( 16.04 server on EC2 )
[03:27] <sarnold> Ph1LZ: are other changes persistent?
[03:29] <Ph1LZ> if I'm configuring it in /etc/network/interfaces everything works fine.
[03:29] <Ph1LZ> I guess there's something rewriting that 50-cloud-init.cfg on EC2 at startup
[03:31] <sarnold> Ph1LZ: looks a bit like https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1571004
[03:33] <Ph1LZ> hehe ... yup looks like it. Thanks!
[05:44] <de-facto> !usn
[05:46] <de-facto> quite a lot of security fixes in the latest kernel update, just a heads up, spread the word :P
[07:57] <lordievader> Good morning.
[18:21] <guamaboy> So... does anyone know where i an find some free Netflix accounts
[18:27] <andol> guamaboy: Or, you could just pay for a regular account??
[18:29] <andol> guamaboy: Also, what made you think that #ubuntu-server was the right channel to ask in?
[18:33] <guamaboy> im knew to th whole irc thing... i barely understand the concept of the topics


[19:16] <waldo323> my google fu is lacking today, any pointers for searching how to delete an email which was accidentally sent to the entire company distribution list rather than only a single recipient on exchange 2016?
[19:17] <waldo323> while i didn't do the sending i'm supposed to help with the deleting
[19:21] <waldo323> i think my coworker is on the right track so i think we might be alright, though tips are still welcome
[20:20] <waldo323> YAY co-worker had success as far as we can tell
[22:02] <cmaloney> Woo woo!


[12:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- paelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4668 Diff missing
[13:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- rikmills, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4669 No packages are being considered! If you are preparing sources manually, please upload them to the PPA now


[01:09] <mpt> http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2007/09/the_state_of_th.html
[01:09] <mpt> "A few years ago, my biggest complaint about Linux applied to many things in the computer world: The documentation was uniformly lousy and scattershot. Since then, at least one distribution -- Ubuntu -- has set a fairly high standard of documentation."
[05:29] <CIA-18> Ubuntu Documentation: bhuvan * r4362 generic/ (server/C/file-server.xml serverguide/C/file-server.xml):
[05:29] <CIA-18> Ubuntu Documentation: * server/C/file-server.xml
[05:29] <CIA-18> Ubuntu Documentation: * serverguide/C/file-server.xml
[05:29] <CIA-18> Ubuntu Documentation:  Updates for file server section.
[05:29] <CIA-18> Ubuntu Documentation: Patch by: Adam Sommer
[05:29] <CIA-18> Ubuntu Documentation: Reviewed by: Mathias Gug
[06:59] <sommer> bhuvan: you about?
[06:59] <bhuvan> yes sommer
[07:00] <sommer> cool I had a quick question about the string freeze
[07:00] <sommer> the plan was to go through the Server Guide and update for Gutsy, but I don't think we made it.
[07:00] <sommer> does it make sense to still submit patches?
[07:01] <sommer> or will they just be applied for Hardy?
[07:07] <bhuvan> sommer, mdke can confirm it'll be made through gutsy. but my point is, it's still very good to keep submitting patches and nothing will be lost. if not for gutsy, sure it will be made available for next release
[07:36] <sommer> bhuvan: sounds good thanks for all your help
[07:36] <bhuvan> np sommer
[08:52] <mdke> sommer: if there are severe errors, please go ahead and submit patches, otherwise they will certainly be used in the next release
[08:55] <mdke> I wish philbull would hang around here :(
[09:29] <CIA-18> Ubuntu Documentation: mdke * r4363 /trunk/ (21 files in 21 dirs): updating changelog, refreshing pot files
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #139548 in ubuntu-docs (main) "Please update the package from svn" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139548
[05:06] <ubotu> New bug: #139613 in ubuntu-doc "Faulty string in kubuntu-docs/files-and-doc" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139613
[05:20] <CIA-18> Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r4364 kubuntu/ (19 files in 19 dirs): close #139613 - package hasn't been uploaded yet
[05:24] <CIA-18> Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r4365 kubuntu/debian/changelog: update debian changelog
[11:17] <Gwaihir> mdke: when will pot files for the docs be ready in launchpad?


[00:31] <Saviq> kdub, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5627701/
[00:31] <Saviq> kdub_, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5627701/
[00:34] <Saviq> kdub_, or http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5627712/ for TouchArea instead of MouseArea
[00:36] <kdub_> will try that one too
[00:39] <kdub_> Saviq, the qpa plugin isn't working right just yet
[00:40] <Saviq> kdub_, ok thanks
[16:17] <robert_ancell> alf__, bug 1176083
[16:21] <alf__> robert_ancell: thanks
[19:17] <kdub_> ping thomi
[19:17] <thomi> kdub_: hey
[19:17] <thomi> what can I do for you


[00:00] <MTecknology> what's dogfood for?
[00:00] <wgrant> MTecknology: Soyuz testing, mainly.
[00:01] <wgrant> beuno: I suspect a whole lot of missing icons aren't going to be noticed in the next couple of days, and after that they'll never be noticed...
[00:02] <MTecknology> wgrant: I just filed a missing icon bug yesterday :P
[00:02] <MTecknology> for deleting a series
[00:03] <wgrant> https://dogfood.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>~prepatch080614l-0ubuntu1 is missing the download icons from the files at the top, but there have been other changes to that page so it might be deliberate.
[00:15] <beuno> wgrant, hopefully grep will help me with that in my second pass at this work
[00:15] <beuno> and
[00:15] <beuno> we're going to go page by page top update their design to the 3.0 look
[00:15] <beuno> so whatever is missing should be cought in that process
[00:16] <wgrant> beuno: What's the difference between the 2.0 and 3.0 looks? I haven't seen anything new for 3.0...
[00:17]  * joey runs away as beuno grabs the bazooka.
[00:17] <joey> (it
[00:18] <joey> ti)
[00:19] <beuno> wgrant, it's cooking. We're moving to CSS grids and all kinds of 21st century technology
[00:19] <wgrant> beuno: ... in one release?
[00:19] <beuno> so the UI for it is being delayed until the proper templates are done
[00:19] <beuno> wgrant, no, in 3!
[00:19] <MTecknology> beuno: sounds scary
[00:20] <wgrant> beuno: But 3.0 is less than a month away!
[00:20] <wgrant> Or is the 3.0 UI not actually part of 3.0?
[00:21] <beuno> wgrant, it's fuzzy
[00:21] <beuno> MTecknology, it's actually beautiful
[00:21] <MTecknology> beuno: any samples?
[00:21] <beuno> MTecknology, not at the moment, no
[00:22] <beuno> but I will blog about it as soon as it's a bit more advanced
[00:22] <MTecknology> either way I'll see soon enough?
[00:22] <beuno> MTecknology, absolutely
[00:23] <beuno> wgrant, open sourcing is unaffected though
[00:23] <beuno> no matter what happens with the UI
[00:24] <wgrant> beuno: Well, that date is fuzzy too now.
[00:24] <wgrant> Which presumably means it will slip...
[00:24] <thumper> wgrant: we decoupled open sourcing and 3.0
[00:24] <thumper> wgrant: well...
[00:24] <wgrant> thumper: I see.
[00:24] <thumper> wgrant: one of the major things we had to do was done on Friday
[00:24] <thumper> wgrant: which is to move LP to the new bzr 2.0 format
[00:24] <thumper> which is still in alpha
[00:25] <thumper> it is causing some teething problems
[00:25] <thumper> as you'd expect
[00:25] <thumper> but we are shaking out the 2.0 bugs
[00:25] <wgrant> Right.
[00:25] <wgrant> Weekend-long reconciles are one complaint I've seen... ouch.
[00:25] <thumper> the repo size for the LP tree went from 1.3 gig to 180 meg fully packed or 250ish normal uses
[00:25] <MTecknology> you guys gonna hammer out every single lp bug w/ the 3.0 release? :P
[00:25] <thumper> wgrant: reconcile isn't yet optimised for 2.0 formats
[00:26] <thumper> which is one reason that is slow
[00:26] <ajmitch> thumper: that's a decent improvement on space though
[00:26] <thumper> MTecknology: no!
[00:26] <thumper> ajmitch: that it is
[00:26] <wgrant> thumper: Very nice.
[00:26] <wgrant> No branches eaten yet?
[00:26] <thumper> none eaten
[00:26] <ajmitch> are all branches getting migrated to that format?
[00:26] <thumper> a couple broken
[00:26] <thumper> ajmitch: eventually
[00:27] <thumper> but at least only broken in one place
[00:27] <thumper> yay DVCS
[00:27] <thumper> the new format makes many things much faster
[00:27] <wgrant> I can imagine. You've got a bit of history.
[00:27] <thumper> this large format move for LP branches caused some disruption at the end of last week and over the weekend
[00:28] <thumper> but really, much less than I feared
[00:28] <wgrant> I found it a bit strange that you did it at the end of week 3.
[00:28] <ajmitch> good, because I'm pulling the mariadb code at the moment & I hate to think how big it'll be on disk :)
[00:28] <thumper> well, the LOSAs are in London this week
[00:28] <thumper> and we've got a limited amount of time to iron out kinks
[00:29] <MTecknology> thumper: you should ue their proper name..
[00:29] <thumper> every day that we delayed potentially delayed open sourcing
[00:29] <thumper> and we care about that
[00:29] <thumper> ajmitch: open office is 4 gig :)
[00:30] <ajmitch> with the old or new format?
[00:30] <thumper> 1.9 rich root I think
[00:30] <thumper> not entirely sure
[00:30]  * thumper checks
[00:31]  * ajmitch isn't entirely convinced that this branch operation is actually doing anything useful at the moment
[00:31] <thumper> ajmitch: hah, new format
[00:32] <thumper> 262672 mainline revisions
[00:32] <ajmitch> that's a lot
[00:32] <kokachev> hi, guys.. Trying to upload over ftp I'm getting "[Errno 111] Connection refused".. also nmap -p21 ppa.launchpad.net reports
[00:32] <kokachev> "closed".. what's going on? could someone help me? thanks.
[00:33] <thumper> we've added a new column to record the branch size in bytes
[00:33] <thumper> kokachev: a would point you at an admin, but they are all on London time right now
[00:34] <kokachev> thumper: thanks.. I'll ask a little later..
[00:34] <wgrant> And cprov's in the same timezone now too :(
[00:35] <ajmitch> unfortunate timing
[00:37] <MTecknology> what does bzr pack do to the branch?
[00:43] <lifeless> it reorganises the database
[00:43] <lifeless> this reduces the number of separate files that need to be read to do operations
[00:43] <MTecknology> ok, thanks
[00:44] <lifeless> and in the bzr 2.0 format it can also increase compression. generally  though you should never needto run 'bzr pack' yourself.
[00:44] <lifeless> because bzr packs automatically to maintain things
[00:44] <wgrant> Does it reorganise the packs and re-groupcompress?
[00:45] <lifeless> which it?
[00:46] <wgrant> bzr pack
[00:46] <lifeless> it writes a single new pack with all the content from the repository, and in 2a formats recompresses all the texts in optimal-compression order
[00:46] <lifeless> the old packs then get obsoleted
[00:47] <wgrant> Right.
[00:55] <kokachev> is there any method (except ftp) to upload to launchpad? dput seems to support scp and sftp.. which one is supported by launchpad?
[00:59] <wgrant> kokachev: Just FTP for now.
[01:01] <kokachev> wgrant: got it.. Could 111 connection refused be caused by some security policy? because nmap -p21 ppa.launchpad.net turned from "open" to "closed" right after uploading attempt...
[01:01] <mwhudson> kokachev: ftp should be fixed now
[01:02] <kokachev> yepp.. fixed.. Thanks!
[02:42] <kokachev> Dear all.. Could someone point out, how to prepare same software version for two different ubuntu releases ( ex. Intrepid and Jaunty) to upload them to PPA..
[02:47] <persia> kokachev, Just upload to intrepid, and then copy to jaunty.
[02:49] <wjblack> Hi all!  I think I have my nifty new PPA set up correctly, but keep getting "Could not find PPA named 'r8169-2.6.30-backport' for 'bblack'".  I've tried various other iterations of the PPA name and userid with no luck.  Every invocation of dput seems to succeed.  And I'm stuck.  Anyone have an idea of where I might've gone wrong?
[02:51] <kokachev> persia: I tried that, but received rejection email.. I changed debian/changelog from "libid3tag (0.15.1b-11) intrepid; urgency=low" to libid3tag (0.15.1b-11) jaunty; urgency=low.. but email states, that ""Rejected:
[02:51] <kokachev> File libid3tag_0.15.1b-11.diff.gz already exists in ppa, but uploaded version has different contents
[02:51] <kokachev> Should I create ne version 0.15.1b-12 only for jaunty without any changes to source, but change only changelog?
[02:52] <persia> kokachev, not upload again.  copy.
[02:53] <MTecknology> Will 3.0 be able to do merges between branches?
[03:01] <kokachev> persia: thanks.. there is one more issue.. I'm uploading debian version for "unstable" distribution.. But this source is rejected. If I change unstable to jaunty , then everything is fine. Why I cannot upload debian sources?
[03:01] <persia> kokachev, Because there's no "unstable" series for Ubuntu.
[03:03] <MTecknology> kokachev: nope, we run stable stuff only :D
[03:04] <kokachev> persia: got it..
[03:04]  * MTecknology think about running jaunty on server 2mo prior to release :P
[03:04] <kokachev> MTecknology:  hehe..
[03:13] <kokachev> persia: trying to copy from jaunty to intrepid, but can copy only binaries. When i try to perform rebuild I'm getting error: The following source cannot be copied: libid3tag 0.15.1b-11 in jaunty (same version already has published binaries in the destination archive). Why?
[03:14] <RenatoSilva> How to create private branches?
[03:16] <persia> kokachev, Right.  Copy the binaries as well.
[03:18] <kokachev> persia: when i copy binaries and then install it on intrepid i'm getting dependency issue, because uploaded source was build for jaunty. maybe something is wrong with version name?
[03:18] <RenatoSilva> what's the purpose of ~launchpad-users?
[03:22] <MTecknology> RenatoSilva: private branches are commercial only, I forgot the link
[03:22] <RenatoSilva> :(
[03:23] <nhandler> MTecknology: s/commercial only/for the most part commercial only/
[03:23] <MTecknology> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/208
[07:49] <robin> Is jml here? urgent.
[07:50] <jml> robin, hi.
[07:50] <robin> jml: I saw your email. I am pushing my new branch now.
[07:50] <robin> jml:  But it takes a long time, and it is going on.
[07:51] <jml> robin, how long has it taken so far?
[07:51] <robin> jml: about 15 minutes. >150M now
[07:51] <jml> robin, what bzr version are you using ('bzr version')
[07:52] <jml> robin, and can you please pastebin the output of 'bzr info -v' on your local branch
[07:52] <robin> jml: 1.16
[07:52] <robin> jml:  branch: Branch format 7
[07:52] <robin> jml: I follow what you said.
[07:52] <jml> robin, also, I suggest killing the current push, deleting the branch on Launchpad, and pushing again with 'bzr -Dhpss lp:....'
[07:53] <jml> that will cause bzr to log more debug information in your ~/.bzr.log
[07:54] <robin> jml: -Dhpss? no push command?
[07:54] <jml> robin, oops :)
[07:54] <jml> bzr -Dhpss push lp:~foo/bar/baz
[07:55] <robin> jml: Do you think it is abnormal? I should to stop it?
[07:56] <jml> robin, Yes, I think it is abnormal. Please stop it and try again with the -Dhpss version of the command.
[07:56] <jml> (after deleting the partially pushed branch)
[08:11] <jml> robin, what's happening?
[08:22] <robin> jml: I repush it now.
[08:23] <jml> robin, ok cool.
[08:23] <robin> jml: >60M
[08:23] <robin> jml: Is it normal?
[08:23] <jml> robin, if it's still pushing after, say, 10mins then kill it and pastebin the .bzr.log somewhere
[08:30] <robin> jml: where should .bzr.log be?
[08:31] <jml> robin, in your home directory
[08:31] <jml> robin, are you using linux?
[08:31] <robin> jml: yes. Fedora
[08:31] <jml> robin, ~/.bzr.log
[08:32] <jml> robin, near the bottom of the file, there'll be a line similar to: 0.332  bzr arguments: [u'push', u'-Dhpss', u'lp:~jml/mysql-server/test-branch']
[08:32] <jml> there'll be a timestamp and a blank line preceding it.
[08:33] <jml> pastebin (e.g. paste.ubuntu.com) the contents of the log from there to the end of the file)
[08:33] <robin> jml: yes. Where do I post it?
[08:33] <jml> robin, paste.ubuntu.com.
[08:43] <jml> robin, you'll need to tell me the URL of the paste
[08:44] <robin> jml: ok, I want to wait for more 10 minutes.
[08:44] <jml> robin, no worries.
[08:51] <alkisg> If I have the .dsc, .tar.gz, .deb, and .changes files for an unreleased debian package (http://llama.freegeek.org/~vagrant/debian/UNRELEASED/),
[08:51] <alkisg> can I somehow upload them to my PPA without doing dpkg-source -x and without modifying debian/changelog ?
[08:52] <alkisg> (looking for the easiest way to update the PPA when new versions of the unreleased package come out)
[08:55] <noodles775> alkisg: good question. I'm not certain, but I *think* you are meant to at least update the changelog so that your email will be the one used if/when there are issues with the package... but it does seem a little strange to need to do so when you're not actually changing anything...
[08:55] <noodles775> al-maisan: ^^^^ any thoughts?
[08:55] <noodles775> or wgrant ^^^ (are you still around?)
[08:56] <wgrant> noodles775: I just got home.
[08:56] <wgrant> Let's see.
[08:56] <wgrant> alkisg: You can, but it's evil.
[08:56] <alkisg> Heh. How so?
[08:56] <wgrant> alkisg: If you give me a good reason not to add a changelog entry, I'll tell you.
[08:56] <noodles775> thanks wgrant :)
[08:57] <alkisg> wgrant: I'm able to copy .debs from other peoples PPAs. Why not from other people's sites?
[08:57] <alkisg> Why should I have to change the version, or put my name in a package I didn't make?
[08:57] <wgrant> alkisg: OK, that'll do. Add /seriesname to the end of the upload path. eg. ~wgrant/ppa/ubuntu/jaunty
[08:57] <alkisg> Heh! Thanks a lot, wgrant! :)
[08:58] <alkisg> (and thanks, noodles775)
[08:59] <noodles775> alkisg: np... it's an opportunity for me to learn too :)
[09:05] <wgrant> noodles775: You haven't had to dig into the dark evil of the backend much yet, I take it?
[09:05] <noodles775> wgrant: nope, I've been doing mainly front-end work... the little backend work that I've done hasn't required broad packaging knowledge either.
[09:06] <noodles775> wgrant: but I'm keen to get learn more packaging and understand soyuz from a packagers pov.
[09:19] <robin> jml: URL:http://paste.ubuntu.com/201933/
[09:19] <robin> jml: what is your bzr version?
[09:20] <jml> 1.17dev
[09:21] <jml> robin, looking at your paste now.
[09:24] <wgrant> Is it the shared repo being in an old format?
[09:29] <jml> robin, can you please paste the full output of 'bzr info -v' in your branch to paste.ubuntu.com
[09:30] <robin> jml: http://paste.ubuntu.com/201937/
[09:33] <jml> robin, ahhhh ok.
[09:34] <jml> robin, so, you've got an old format repository
[09:34] <robin> jml: Is it Branch format 7?
[09:34] <robin> jml: Do you know how to solve it?
[09:35] <jml> robin, yes, I do!
[09:35] <robin> jml: looking forward for your help.
[09:36] <jml> robin, gimme a second, I'm talking to three people at once and it's making me a little slow with all of them.
[09:36] <jml> sorry.
[09:36] <lifeless> jml: let me add a channel
[09:36] <lifeless> :P
[09:36] <robin> jml: never mind. I am waiting for you.
[09:36] <lifeless> jml: or perhaps I can help with one
[09:38] <jml> robin, in that directory, run 'bzr upgrade --1.9'
[09:38] <jml> robin, that'll take a while, but when it's done, you should be able to push your branch up quickly.
[09:38] <wgrant> How do I push a 2a branch to an existing project on Launchpad? It looks like it attempts to stack, then fails because they're incompatible formats.
[09:38] <robin> jml: bzr: ERROR: The branch format Meta directory format 1 is already at the most recent format.?
[09:38] <lifeless> wgrant: you can init, over sftp, the target branch.
[09:38] <wgrant> jml: Should robin do that in the branch, or repo?>
[09:38] <jml> in the repo
[09:39] <wgrant> lifeless: Ah, forgot that.
[09:39] <wgrant> lifeless: In fact, I think just pushing again should do it. Let's try.
[09:39] <wgrant> Yes, that worked.
[09:39] <lifeless> wgrant: also please file a bug that it doesn't 'just work but not stack'
[09:39] <wgrant> lifeless: Will do.
[09:41] <wgrant> lifeless: Somewhat similar to bug #328146
[09:41] <lifeless> yah same
[09:41] <wgrant> robin: Are you trying the upgrade in the repo, rather than the branch? /home/robin/gsoc/code is where you should be running it.
[09:41] <wgrant> lifeless: Thanks.
[09:42] <robin> wgrant: got it. It is upgrading now~
[09:43] <jml> :)
[09:51] <robin> jml: Conversion is done. And then?
[09:51] <jml> robin, on Launchpad, delete the failed attempt at pushing
[09:51] <jml> robin, then try again.
[09:52] <jml> (still use -Dhpss, just in case)
[09:55] <jml> robin, I have friends dragging me away from the computer.
[09:55] <robin> jml: ok.
[09:56] <jml> robin, if things still don't work out, either someone here might help...
[09:56] <jml> or you can use answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-code and mention my nick in the question.
[09:56] <robin> jml: OK. thx
[09:56] <jml> nyp
[09:56] <jml> np
[09:56] <jml> bye
[10:08] <Hamaryns> ping gmb
[10:09] <gmb> Hamaryns: Hi.
[10:09] <Hamaryns> Hi, I am trying to use your Trac migrate script, but it barfs, see https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+question/69864
[10:10] <Hamaryns> In the related answer, you said, one was allowed to ping you, so…
[10:11]  * gmb looks
[10:11] <Hamaryns> Do you also know about code imports from svn, or who should I ask about that?
[10:12] <gmb> Hamaryns: Unfortunately there aren't any codehosting guys online at the moment; I don't know all that much about it but maybe I can help. What do you want to know?
[10:13] <Hamaryns> There was a canceled import, I gave the incorrect uri initially, but now I am unable to request another import into the same branch, see https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/monasearch/trunk
[10:13] <Hamaryns> Seems like a bug in LP to me that there is no possibility to revive this.
[10:16] <gmb> Hamaryns: Well, you could have deleted the existing import, I think.
[10:16] <gmb> Hamaryns: I've updated it; it should run shortly.
[10:16] <wgrant> gmb: Only ~vcs-imports members can delete imports.
[10:17] <Hamaryns> actually, the instructions on the webpage mentioned above and the README of the trac importer differ: the first says to give the path to the db file, the latter to give the path to the directory
[10:17] <gmb> Once again, wgrant knows more than me. This is a base-state for the universe, I think.
[10:17] <gmb> wgrant: Thanks.
[10:17] <Hamaryns> yes, I did not see the option to delete it
[10:17] <gmb> Hamaryns: Right, I'll make sure that's corrected. It should be the path to the file.
[10:17] <gmb> Hamaryns: It looks as if you've got a missing attachment (the migrator was written with the assumption that nothing ever gets moved, changed or deleted and it gets easily upset
[10:18] <gmb> if something disappears)
[10:18] <Hamaryns> so can I request vcs-imports to delete it and restart the import request
[10:18] <gmb> Hamaryns: I've updated the import request for you, it should run shortly.
[10:18] <Hamaryns> Does that mean that in the Trac, there is an attachment defined but nothing there?  How can I fix that?
[10:18] <Hamaryns> great, many thanks
[10:18] <gmb> Hamaryns: In fact it's running now...
[10:19] <gmb> Hamaryns: I'm not sure. Can you paste an ls of the attachments directory for me on pastebin.ubuntu.com?
[10:20] <wgrant> gmb: I think I'll see just how little I know once I start poking at the code... I'd say you have the advantage there.
[10:21] <wgrant> Huh. That import failed with a very strange error.
[10:21] <gmb> wgrant: Don't be so sure. I spend a lot of time going "WTF?" before realising that I wrote the thing I'm looking at. I think there may have been mushrooms involved at some point, especially with checkwatches.
[10:21]  * gmb looks.
[10:22] <gmb> That's... bizarre.
[10:22] <wgrant> gmb: Yeah, I do that all the time too...  [...] Oh."
[10:22] <wgrant> Hamaryns: Are you attempting to move to bzr permanently?
[10:23] <Hamaryns> wgrant: yes, our current server is to be shut down
[10:23] <Hamaryns> I want to migrate the entire project to LP
[10:24] <wgrant> Hamaryns: You might be better off using bzr-svn as a one-time importer, then.
[10:24] <wgrant> Hamaryns: As a Launchpad VCS import loses some metadata, and is intended to run continuously and be read-only.
[10:25] <wgrant> Particularly since cscvs doesn't like it, bzr-svn looks like a good option here.
[10:25] <Hamaryns> gmb: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/201969/
[10:25] <gmb> Hamaryns: I second that.
[10:25] <Hamaryns> aha, I didn’t know that
[10:25] <Hamaryns> can you give me a link to start that?
[10:25] <wgrant> Hamaryns: So, just install bzr-svn, and 'bzr co svn://blah'
[10:27] <wgrant> Hamaryns: If you have svn branches, you can import all of them using 'bzr svn-import'
[10:27] <gmb> Hamaryns: I've just tried using bzr-svn locally for your svn trunk and it works fine, FTR.
[10:27] <Hamaryns> Ok, I’ll do that
[10:27] <Hamaryns> and then how do I push it into LP?
[10:28] <Hamaryns> and can you then also cancel those imports (both monasearch/trunk and /visualization)?
[10:28] <wgrant> Hamaryns: Just like a normal branch. bzr push lp:~userorteam/projectname/branchname
[10:28] <Hamaryns> cool, I’m new you now, thanks
[10:28] <gmb> Hamaryns: I'll delete both of them for you.
[10:28] <gmb> bear with me...
[10:29] <gmb> Hamaryns: Can you unlink the trunk series from the /trunk import please? I don't have permission to break that link.
[10:29] <robin> It still does not work.......
[10:29] <Hamaryns> hm, I see there is svn2bzr as well, any difference?
[10:30] <wgrant> robin: What does it do? Still takes ages?
[10:30] <robin> wgrant: Yes...It drives me crazy.
[10:31] <gmb> Hamaryns: I think svn2bzr is deprecated in favour of bzr svn-import, but I could be wrong.
[10:31] <Hamaryns> gmb: what do you mean unlink, how?
[10:31] <wgrant> robin: Can you pastebin the latest stuff from .bzr.log again?
[10:32] <Hamaryns> ok, trying bzr-svn
[10:32] <wgrant> gmb: I thought svn2bzr was long-dead, but its trunk was committed to just a couple of weeks ago. Strange.
[10:32] <wgrant> Most people do seem to use bzr-svn now, though.
[10:33] <gmb> Hamaryns: If you go to https://edge.launchpad.net/monasearch/trunk/ you should see a "Change branch" link under the "Code for this series" heading. CLick that, then clear the field on the form that follows it and hit "Update"
[10:33] <robin> wgrant: Must add -Dpss args?
[10:33] <wgrant> robin: Ah, yes.
[10:33] <wgrant> robin: And make sure you're not pushing to an existing branch.
[10:33] <wgrant> robin: You *must* delete the branch on Launchpad before repushing, if the first push failed.
[10:34] <robin> wgrant: yes, I know
[10:34] <Hamaryns> gmb: done
[10:35] <gmb> Hamaryns: Okay, I've deleted both branches for you.
[10:35] <gmb> Hamaryns: WRT your trac migrator issue, try appending 'tickets/' to the attachment path. It looks like it's looking one directory too high.
[10:37] <Hamaryns> gmb: that seems to have worked, apart from the warning which was already there in the other tries
[10:37] <Hamaryns> ok, wo where do I post the xml
[10:38] <Hamaryns> ah, and can I import the Trac wiki into LP as well?  Or at least some pages of it?
[10:38] <Hamaryns> or will that be done automatically?
[10:38] <Hamaryns> I guess not
[10:38] <wgrant> Launchpad doesn't do wikis yet.
[10:38] <Hamaryns> right, that’s a shame\
[10:38] <gmb> Hamaryns: Email your xml to me. I'll pm you my address.
[10:38] <Hamaryns> so I need to maintain my own homepage for the project
[10:40] <robin> wgrant: Source branch format does not support stacking, using format:
[10:40] <robin>   Branch format 7
[10:40] <wgrant> robin: That's a good sign.
[10:40] <robin> wgrant:  is it fine?
[10:40] <wgrant> robin: That's fine.
[10:40] <wgrant> It means it's trying to stack...
[10:40] <robin> wgrant: It is finding revisions
[10:40] <wgrant> robin: OK. How long has it been going?
[10:41] <wgrant> Hopefully it will find that most of the revisions are already there, and just push the new ones.
[10:41] <robin> wgrant: I rerun it
[10:41] <wgrant> That warning is a very good sign, as it means it's at least trying to do the right thing.
[10:41] <robin> wgrant: Last time, I is going at least 10 minutes.
[10:42] <gmb> Hamaryns: Yes, at least for now.
[10:42] <Hamaryns> gmb: the file is on its way
[10:43] <gmb> Hamaryns: Thanks. I'll try to attend to it today, but we're releasing the new version of LP tomorrow so I doubt I'll be able to do much until after that. I'll check that the data's importable, though, and let you know if there are any problems.
[10:43] <Hamaryns> cheers, much thanks, really
[10:43] <Hamaryns> on to the next problem:
[10:43] <Hamaryns> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/201989/
[10:44] <wgrant> Intriguing. That could be the same issue as cscvs had.
[10:44]  * wgrant tries it.
[10:48] <wgrant> cprov: Is it deliberate that sources are hidden from IArchive:+index when they have published binaries?
[10:49] <cprov> wgrant: the +index page only cares about the source publishing status, atm
[10:49] <cprov> wgrant: was the source superseded ?
[10:49] <wgrant> cprov: OK.
[10:49] <wgrant> cprov: It was, yes.
[10:51] <wgrant> Hamaryns: Any idea around which rev it failed?
[10:51] <wgrant> I'm almost up to 100 here, and it's going fine.
[10:51] <Hamaryns> no idea
[10:52] <wgrant> Hamaryns: OK, I guess I'll see how this goes.
[10:52] <gmb> Hamaryns, wgrant I've seen a couple of unicode warnings but I'm up to r480 with no ill efects...
[10:52] <wgrant> bzr-svn 0.6.2, subvertpy 0.6.1, bzr 1.16
[10:52] <LarstiQ> nice and current :)
[10:52] <wgrant> Hamaryns: I guess if it works for gmb, you can probably convince him to push the branch and then just copy off that.
[10:53] <gmb> Hamaryns, wgrant: Yes, I can do that, no problem.
[10:53] <gmb> Assuming this finishes, of course...
[10:53] <Hamaryns> are you guys actually doing svn-import on my svn repo?
[10:53] <Hamaryns> It’s about 600 revs, so you’re almost there
[10:53] <Hamaryns> feel free to push it to lp
[10:54] <Hamaryns> I guess I’ll have to grant you some rights on the MS project?
[10:54] <wgrant> LarstiQ: Not any more! You just uploaded a new subvertpy to the subvertpy PPA. I only bring this up because it's the first time I've browsed that PPA, but I managed to hit it 30 seconds after the first upload in 6 months. Nice timing.
[10:54] <wgrant> Hamaryns: No, anybody can push a branch to a project.
[10:54] <Hamaryns> How can I make someone else maintainer?
[10:54] <Hamaryns> aha, good
[10:54] <Hamaryns> in what sense is it then controlled?
[10:54] <wgrant> Hamaryns: That's part of the beauty of Bazaar and Launchpad: I as a random user can make my own branch of a project.
[10:54] <LarstiQ> wgrant: ah well, I'm not done with subvertpy yet. But bzr-svn I did yesterday.
[10:54] <wgrant> Hamaryns: You can set the development focus (aka. trunk) branch for a project.
[10:55] <Hamaryns> right
[10:55] <Hamaryns> and then?
[10:55] <wgrant> Hamaryns: What do you mean?
[10:55] <LarstiQ> Hamaryns: and people can't push to branches of teams they are not a member of
[10:55] <Hamaryns> do I have to do some reviews or something?
[10:56] <wgrant> What LarstiQ said. Branches can only be written to by their owner (or members of the owning team). Users can then request a merge from their branch into yours, and you can review it and do the merge if you wish.
[10:56] <LarstiQ> Hamaryns: so I can push to ~larstiq/monasearch/foo, but not to ~monasearch/monasearch/foo (if there is a monasearch team)
[10:56] <Hamaryns> it’s starting to dawn on me
[10:57] <Hamaryns> how do I create a team?
[10:57] <wgrant> Hamaryns: https://launchpad.net/people/+newteam
[10:57] <wgrant> https://help.launchpad.net/ is useful if you're ever unsure about anything.
[11:02] <gmb> Hamaryns: You can branch your trunk branch by doing `bzr branch lp:~gmb/monasearch/trunk` and the visualization branch by doing `bzr branch lp:~gmb/monasearch/visualization`.
[11:03] <gmb> Hamaryns: And then push them to wherever you need them to be.
[11:03] <Hamaryns> right, great, many thanks
[11:07] <Hamaryns> Is this the correct command? bzr push<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and how do I know it pushes the trunk branch only?
[11:13] <wgrant> Hamaryns: You need a team or person name in there, and you can make it much shorter using lp:. For example, I'd do 'bzr push lp:~wgrant/monasearch/trunk'
[11:13] <wgrant> That would yield a branch writable only by me.
[11:13] <Hamaryns> Right, so ‘bzr push lp:~monasearch/monasearch/trunk’ ?
[11:14]  * LarstiQ nods at Hamaryns
[11:14] <wgrant> Hamaryns: If there is a team named monasearch, yes.
[11:14] <Hamaryns> and I do this in the root directory of the particular branch I want to push
[11:14] <wgrant> Yep.
[11:20] <Hamaryns> It seems like you can do this via the web interface as well.  I requested and approved a merge, but how is it now being merged?
[11:21] <wgrant> Hamaryns: That's just for reviewing merges. At the moment, you have to either do the merge manually, or configure a robot to do it automatically when a proposal is approved.
[11:22] <Hamaryns> this is getting complex.  Okay, how do I do that robot thing?  And with manually, you mean, with bzr from the command line?
[11:22] <wgrant> Also, if you look at https://code.launchpad.net/monasearch, you should see a message telling you to set the development focus branch, I think.
[11:22] <wgrant> Hamaryns: I'd go with merging manually for now, until you get the feel of things.
[11:22] <wgrant> Hamaryns: And yes, merging manually is done with bzr on the command line.
[11:23] <Hamaryns> okay, thanks again
[11:23] <Hamaryns> that worked now
[11:24] <Hamaryns> great, LP even registers that I did the merge, this is so cool
[11:25] <Hamaryns> gmb: did you import each revision of those two branches?
[11:25] <Hamaryns> I suppose so
[11:25] <gmb> Hamaryns: Yes.
[11:26] <gmb> Well, unless bzr-svn was lying to me.
[11:27] <Hamaryns> Ok, I have to get bzr-svn working as well, to import some older tags, I don’t want to bother you with that
[11:27] <Hamaryns> You’ve been a great help
[11:28] <wgrant> Hamaryns: Tags are done differently in the bzr world.
[11:28] <wgrant> A tag is just an extra label attached to a revision.
[11:29] <Hamaryns> Ok.  In svn, it is a copy, so basically also just a revision, but you imported only two branches, not the whole tags directory, so I guess I still have to import the tags directory and pick the relevant stuff from there
[11:30] <wgrant> Hamaryns: Is there anything there apart from the name<->revision information?
[11:31] <wgrant> Importing a tag as another branch probably doesn't make sense.
[11:31] <Hamaryns> I did some small bugfixes on some tags, yes
[11:31] <wgrant> But it depends how you've used tags.
[11:31] <wgrant> Ah.
[11:31] <Hamaryns> so they are no longer identical to a trunk revision
[11:31] <wgrant> So, try getting a new bzr/bzr-svn.
[11:31] <wgrant> Are you using Ubuntu?
[11:31] <Hamaryns> openSUSE 11.1
[11:31] <Hamaryns> I am trying svn2bzr now and it is running fine\
[11:31] <wgrant> Ah. I can't help you with packages for that, sorry.
[11:32] <wgrant> Using svn2bzr won't get you a branch that can merge with the bzr-svn branches.
[11:32] <Hamaryns> I just did zypper in bzr-svn and it worked fine
[11:32] <Hamaryns> no, but it will give me a usable repo, won’t it?
[11:32] <wgrant> It probably will. But what will you do with it then?
[11:33] <Hamaryns> I have a lot of stuff besides MonaSearch in that repo, mostly private, and I can use the bazaar repo locally then
[11:33] <Hamaryns> and I guess I can then checkout branches from that local repo and merge them into LP?
[11:34] <wgrant> It doesn't quite work like that.
[11:34] <wgrant> bzr-svn will generate bzr revision IDs different to those generated by svn2bzr.
[11:35] <wgrant> So you won't easily be able to do a merge with history from the svn2bzr branches.
[11:35] <Hamaryns> dammit, it crashed
[11:35] <wgrant> Because they will look like totally separate branches.
[11:35] <Hamaryns> right
[11:35] <wgrant> I suggest you just upgrade your bzr-svn.
[11:36] <Hamaryns> ok, I guess that would be bzr branch lp:bzr-svn?
[11:36] <wgrant> I suppose you could do that. I'd first try to find a package, though, as you probably installed using a package before.
[11:37] <Hamaryns> I did.  I found 3 possibilities: 0.5.4-3.1, 0.4.17-12.1 and 0.4.17-1.1, which should I take?
[11:38] <wgrant> Those are all pretty old.
[11:38] <wgrant> Which do you have now?
[11:39] <LarstiQ> Hamaryns: there are no 0.6.x packages? :/
[11:40] <Hamaryns> http://software.opensuse.org/search?p=1&baseproject=ALL&q=bzr-svn
[11:44] <Hamaryns> I have 0.4.17
[11:45] <wgrant> Try 0.5.4
[11:45] <wgrant> We can hope that will work better.
[11:45] <wgrant> And you only have to use it once.
[11:46] <Hamaryns> can I find out from the command line which version I have?
[11:46] <wgrant> bzr plugins
[11:46] <Hamaryns> svn2bzr crashed with the message that it had an invalid commit message, I suppose that is because it contained Windows line-endings
[11:47] <wgrant> cscvs, svn2bzr and old bzr-svn all seem to choke on that.
[11:47] <wgrant> I'm not sure it's the line-endings, though.
[11:47] <Hamaryns> damimit
[11:47] <Hamaryns> does it make sense to file a bug, or is it known?
[11:47] <wgrant> It's fixed in bzr-svn.
[11:47] <wgrant> svn2bzr is a bit dead.
[11:47] <Hamaryns> right
[11:47] <wgrant> And cscvs is... well... cscvs.
[11:48] <Hamaryns> I would like to use it though.  Although I can of course just use the svn dump to populate a local svn repo and stick with that
[11:48] <wgrant> You'd like to use what, exactly?
[11:48] <wgrant> svn2bzr?
[11:49] <Hamaryns> yes
[11:49] <wgrant> I'm fairly sure you want to use bzr-svn instead. Why do you want to use svn2bzr?
[11:49] <Hamaryns> as I described above, to create my own local Bazaar repo for my private stuff
[11:49] <wgrant> Can't you use bzr-svn for that?
[11:50] <wgrant> (assuming that we can get it to not crash)
[11:51] <Hamaryns> can I?
[11:52] <LarstiQ> sure
[11:52] <Hamaryns> anyway, I tried to install the 0.5 version and now bzr plugins says it cannot read the svn plugin
[11:52] <Hamaryns> good, I’ll forget about svn2bzr then
[11:56] <wgrant> Hamaryns: Does it give any error?
[11:56] <wgrant> I mean, a more meaningful one.
[11:56] <Hamaryns> Unable to load plugin 'svn' from '/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/plugins'
[11:57] <wgrant> Hamaryns: Open up python, and run 'import bzrlib.plugins.svn'
[11:57] <wgrant> I wonder if your subvertpy is too old.
[11:57] <Hamaryns> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/202041/
[11:58] <LarstiQ> ehm, what version of bzr are you using?
[11:59] <Hamaryns> 1.11
[11:59] <Hamaryns> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/202043/
[12:00] <wgrant> Filters are new in 1.14, aren't they?
[12:00] <LarstiQ> http://bazaar-vcs.org/BzrForeignBranches/Subversion#releases has the compatibility list
[12:01] <wgrant> One would expect that to be represented in the RPM dependencies.
[12:03] <Hamaryns> I am installing bzr 1.16 now
[12:11] <Hamaryns> oh man
[12:13] <Hamaryns> ok, so now bzr plugins mentions svn again, but bzr svn-import says I need subvertpy and easy_install subvertpy gives an error that apr-config is not found
[12:13] <wgrant> It's probably libapr-dev or something similar. But I'm not sure about OpenSUSE naming conventions.
[12:14] <Hamaryns> ah, right, I need the devel versiobn
[12:14] <Hamaryns> libapr1-devel
[12:14] <Hamaryns> does it need svn-devel as well??
[12:16] <Hamaryns> seems so
[12:16] <Hamaryns> bzr: ERROR: The API for "<module 'bzrlib' from '/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/__init__.pyc'>" is not compatible with "(1, 14, 0)". It supports versions "(1, 15, 0)" to "(1, 16, 0)".
[12:18] <wgrant> Argh. Looks like bzr-svn is fairly tightly version-locked.
[12:18]  * wgrant just uses the Ubuntu packages, trusting people like LarstiQ to work out this mess.
[12:19] <wgrant> Hamaryns: So, cd into ~/.bazaar/plugins, and try 'bzr co lp:bzr-svn svn'
[12:24] <Hamaryns> um, yes but then I need newest bzr as well, won’t I?
[12:24] <wgrant> 1.16 is the latest release.
[12:24] <wgrant> So hopefully bzr-svn hasn't gone past that yet.
[12:26] <Hamaryns> cool, it’s running now
[12:26] <wgrant> Otherwise just grab the latest bzr-svn tarball. And preferably convince somebody to maintain a repo of bzr stuff for openSUSE
[12:30] <Hamaryns> There is https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=home:maw:bzr, and there are several others that have a private branch
[12:30] <Hamaryns> it has bzr 1.16, but bzr-svn 0.4.17
[12:31] <wgrant> How strange.
[12:34] <Hamaryns> for example https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=home:LenzGr:branches:home:maw:bzr has branched maw’s bzr-svn and provides 0.5.4, but as I said, I tried installnig that and it didn’t quite work
[12:35]  * LenzGr heard his name
[12:35] <wgrant> That was because of the different bzr version, wasn't it?
[12:36] <LenzGr> Funny, I was just about to check if there is a newer version of bzr-svn...
[12:37] <wgrant> LenzGr: When you do package them, perhaps add versioned dependencies on the right version of bzr.
[12:37] <wgrant> (as shown on http://bazaar-vcs.org/BzrForeignBranches/Subversion#releases)
[12:37] <LenzGr>  wgrant: good point
[12:40]  * LenzGr updates his package repository to 0.6.2
[12:48] <LarstiQ> LenzGr: yay :)
[12:49] <Hamaryns|weg> so fast?
[12:49] <LarstiQ> LenzGr: I'm packaging bzr-svn for the Launchpad ppa, do you want me to ping you on new releases?
[12:49] <LenzGr> LarstiQ: That'd be appreciated! Can I subscribe to an announce list?
[12:50] <LarstiQ> LenzGr: bazaar-announce would be the appropriate list, but bzr-svn releases don't always get announced :/
[12:50] <LarstiQ> LenzGr: I'll ask jelmer if I should/could do bzr-svn release announcements too
[12:51] <LenzGr> I should probably get on bazaar-announce anyway, as I also maintain bzr on the openSUSE Build Service :)
[12:51] <LenzGr> LarstiQ: I think it would make sense
[12:51] <LarstiQ> cool
[12:52] <LenzGr> LarstiQ: By the way, https://launchpad.net/bzr-svn does not show the 0.6.2 release, either...
[12:52] <Hamaryns> LenzGr: you need a dependency from subvert also
[12:54] <LenzGr> Hamaryns: What is "subvert"?
[12:55] <LarstiQ> LenzGr: subvertpy are the subversion bindings bzr-svn uses
[12:56] <Hamaryns> right, that’s what I meant
[12:56] <LenzGr> Ah, I see
[12:56] <Hamaryns> I don’t recall precisely, but there were some missing dependencies, and I was not able to use your currently packaged 0.5.4 release
[12:58] <LenzGr> Hamaryns: It now requires:
[12:58] <LenzGr> bzr >= 1.15
[12:58] <LenzGr> bzr-rebase
[12:58] <LenzGr> subversion-python >= 1.4.4
[12:58] <wgrant> LenzGr: subversion-python == subvertpy?
[12:59] <lifeless> wgrant: no, they are different
[12:59] <lifeless> at least on ubuntu
[12:59] <LenzGr> wgrant: No, that's libsvn_swig_py
[12:59] <Hamaryns> LenzGr: I just tried with Yast, but it doesn’t find the 0.6 version yet?
[12:59] <LenzGr> Hamaryns: Give it a moment, the build farm needs to compile and distribute the packages first :)
[13:00] <wgrant> lifeless: Right, that's what I thought...
[13:08] <Hamaryns> aha
[14:01] <ersi> When does projects disappear from translations.launchpad.net/~user? Do they ever?
[14:23] <philn> heya, nice to see you reused my trac->lp migrator ;)
[14:24] <philn> was quite hackish around the edges tho
[14:54] <robin> jml: I am failed again.....
[15:26] <kiko> ersi, disappear?
[15:28] <ersi> kiko: I'm wondering 'if'/'when' they disappear from the user translation listing. I mean, if one has been inactive in a project etc. Sort of like the Launchpad Karma
[15:28] <kiko> not really
[15:45] <rick_h__1> anyone know what the lead time is usually on an email to verify the gpg key?
[15:46] <rick_h__1> I'm hitting an hour, checked spam folders, checked email spelling (long time account and I get other emails to it fine)
[15:50]  * maxb does not recall any email being involved when adding his gpg key
[15:51] <SamB> maxb: they send you one, I think?
[15:51] <SamB> to make sure you can decrypt it, possibly
[15:52] <SamB> rick_h__1: have you tried having it re-sent ?
[15:52] <rick_h__1> SamB: no, haven't tried having it resent
[15:52] <rick_h__1> yea, you get an encrypted email to verify you own the key
[15:53] <SamB> I remember something like that
[15:53] <maxb> hmm
[15:53] <maxb> Ah.
[15:53] <rick_h__1> canceled and retry
[15:53] <maxb> Last key I added was a sign-only one, that's probably why I didn't get a mail
[15:53] <rick_h__1> see if it works this time
[15:53] <SamB> maxb: ah, yeah, that would make it difficult for them to send you an encrypted email
[15:54] <SamB> but they could send you one with text for you to sign
[15:54] <SamB> well, I expect the entire email they send isn't encrypted -- there were probably some instructions above the encrypted portion
[16:09] <rick_h__1> hmmm, I think it hates me. Still no luck on the email
[16:22] <rick_h__1> anyone know how to turn off redirection when you're on edge.?
[16:22] <rick_h__1> not seeing the "cancel redirection for 2hrs" link
[16:56] <flacoste> rick_h__1: go to the front page
[16:56] <flacoste> rick_h__1: launchpad.net
[16:57] <rick_h__1> flacoste: ah, ok. I didn't get it when I clicked the link home there
[16:57] <flacoste> rick_h__1: i think it's one https://launchpad.net/
[16:58] <flacoste> not on https://edge.lauchpad.net/
[16:58] <flacoste> since edge doesn't do redirect
[16:58] <flacoste> only launchpad.net does
[16:58] <flacoste> but i agree it's confusing
[16:58] <flacoste> please file a bug about showing the disable button on the edge home page also
[17:01] <rick_h__1> thanks, ok. 3rd try to get the email. This time not on the beta site
[17:08] <rick_h__1> yay, got my launchpad email now. Must be something broken on the beta site
[17:41] <rick_h__1> flacoste: thanks, all good. Bug report filed on the redirection.
[18:19] <flacoste> rick_h__1: thanks
[18:55] <kirkland> is there anyone around to help me with some vcs-auto-imports questions?
[19:13] <kiko> kirkland, always. what's up?
[19:13] <kirkland> kiko: hiya, so the qemu upstream project just announced that they're going to start using launchpad for bug tracking
[19:13] <kirkland> kiko: i helped get them setup
[19:14] <kirkland> kiko: they're a very git-centric community, so I've been trying to setup an auto vcs import of their git tree into bzr for a couple of weeks now
[19:15] <kirkland> kiko: the initial import worked, but the auto updates are broken;  i think jelmer said that he's uploaded a fix, so I'm in a holding pattern waiting for LP to pick up this outside fix
[19:15] <kirkland> kiko: ...
[19:15] <kirkland> kiko: in the mean time, i'd like to try and automate it myself, perhaps
[19:16] <kirkland> kiko: i'm curious if anyone else has run into similar problems and how they have solved them
[19:16] <kirkland> kiko: i have the git fast-export | bzr fast-import working
[19:17] <kiko> kirkland, that's awesome
[19:17] <kiko> kirkland, do you have the bug number for the import?
[19:17] <kirkland> kiko: let me grab it
[19:18] <kiko> for the import issue, sorry
[19:21] <kirkland> kiko: okay, the broken import is https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/qemu/git
[19:22] <kirkland> kiko: checked my email archive, and irc, turns out this has been an irc discussion only;  i can go file a question/bug now, if you like
[19:23] <kiko> kirkland, do you know the revision in which this fix was landed?
[19:23] <kirkland> kiko: Jun 16 22:03:50 <jelmer>        kirkland: confirmed that qemu also imports fine now
[19:23] <kiko> kirkland, "now"?
[19:23] <kirkland> kiko: a timestamp is the closest i have, at the moment
[19:24] <kiko> okay
[19:24] <kirkland> kiko: i pinged jelmer in #bzr, i can open a question in the meantime and try to track it down there
[19:24] <kirkland> kiko: i found it!
[19:24] <kiko> kirkland, can you or jelmer tell me a revision on https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bzr/bzr-git/trunk ?
[19:24] <kiko> where it's fixed?
[19:24] <kirkland> kiko: question #73651
[19:25] <kirkland> kiko: sorry, where i filed this;  thumper indicates that he has a branch with the fix
[19:25] <kiko> kirkland, should be fixed tomorrow morning then
[19:25] <kiko> when the rollout happens
[19:25] <kirkland> kiko: perfect
[19:25] <kirkland> kiko: excellent, thanks for your help, man
[19:25] <kiko> kirkland, if it isn't can you update that question again and ping thumper/jelmer?
[19:25] <kiko> kirkland, no problem
[19:25] <kirkland> sure thing
[19:25] <kiko> kirkland, awesome that qemu is interested!
[19:26] <kirkland> kiko: yessir, it's going to really be a good thing for qemu, and ubuntu
[19:26] <kiko> kirkland, congratulations and good work in getting them onboard
[19:26] <kirkland> kiko: cheers
[19:27] <kiko> kirkland, bzr-git itself is rolled out onto our import boxes, which is why it is usually only updated on rollouts
[19:28] <kirkland> kiko: i updated that question, https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+question/73651
[19:29] <kirkland> kiko: just to make sure that that fix is in tomorrow's batch
[19:29] <kiko> sure
[19:57] <xpd259> hiya how do i setup a personal ppa in dput.cf
[19:58] <kiko> xpd259, help.launchpad.net/PPA
[19:58] <xpd259> kiko: i've followed that and i thought id set it up right but just got an error email saying ppa doesn't exist
[19:59] <kiko> xpd259, does your PPA exist? :)
[19:59] <kiko> what URL
[19:59] <xpd259> https://launchpad.net/~xpd259/+archive/ppa
[20:00] <nhandler> kiko: Do you think it would be beneficial to add the content from http://blog.launchpad.net/ppa/simplifying-dputcf-for-multiple-ppas (or link to it) on the help.launchpad.net/PPA page?
[20:01] <kiko> nhandler, link to it is a good idea
[22:53] <rodrigo_> rockstar: around?
[22:53] <rockstar> rodrigo_, hi.
[22:54] <rodrigo_> rockstar: I've been talking with statik about doing code review for some code we have in gnome's git repo, just like we do for ubuntuone
[22:55] <rodrigo_> rockstar: and tried to join the launchpad-users list but I need to be a team member
[22:55] <rodrigo_> (I was going to ask in the list how we could do that)
[22:55] <rockstar> rodrigo_, well, I'd first suggest joining the team and being on the list.  I think there's real value in having this be on list.
[22:56] <rodrigo_> yeah, so how do I join the team?
[22:57] <rodrigo_> ah, 'join the team' link I guess :)


[09:34] <Joshooa> Hey, anyone?
[09:34] <nalioth> anyone what?
[09:36] <Joshooa> I don't know, seeing who was around
[10:45] <luzhin> help installing metacity theme?
[10:45] <luzhin> i can see theme when browsing but can't install themes


[06:19] <pkmajumder2011> Heya
[06:21] <pkmajumder2011> anybody here?
[06:24] <pkmajumder2011> heya
[14:01] <aztek> how to play video in backtrack?
[21:17] <Qui___> Good evening
[21:19] <Qui___> "enable the component called 'universe'"
[21:20] <Qui___> I cant find the component called universe in Synaptic Package Manager
[21:20] <Pici> Its not a package. It should be an option in your software sources.
[21:21] <Qui___> im not a advanced User, can you help me fix it?
[21:22] <Pici> Qui___: I'm not sure I remember where the software sources menu lives nowadays, it used to be in System>Administration>Software Sources
[21:23] <Pici> Qui___: If you don't see it, I suggest asking in #ubuntu, where there are more active people.
[21:23] <Pici> I'm mostly a terminal user, sorry.
[21:25] <Qui___> ok. Thanks for your time


[15:30] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[15:33] <bregma> had to light the second stove today, it's -20 outside and 5 inside
[15:34] <bregma> needed the cookstove going anyway to make the traditional new-years tourtiere
[15:34] <bregma> don't understand why the dog is so enthusiastic about going out for a walk, though
[17:09] <DarwinSurvivor> bregma: was the dog still as enthusiastic after finding out it was even colder *outside*?
[17:15] <pangolin> 5C in the house?
[17:15] <pangolin> that is COLD
[18:06] <dscassel> No indoor plumbing, I'm guessing?


[07:29] <lordievader> Good morning.
 hi, how can I see which packages changed on ubuntu wily 15.10?
 I want to find out why the launchpad daily builds i maintain fail
 est31: it's not released yet so chat in #ubuntu+1 please
[10:51] <BluesKaj> Hey all


[05:15] <cpaelzer> good morning
[05:46] <utkarsh2102> cpaelzer: hellu! o/
[06:10] <yurtesen> good morning
[06:31] <cpaelzer> double hi yurtesen and utkarsh2102
[06:48] <Andreios9> ip6tables --flush && ndisc6 ipv6.l.google.com enp35s0 "Sending ICMPv6 packet: Operation not permitted"
[06:49] <Andreios9> what could be the problem?
[06:56] <cpaelzer> Andreios9:  haven't seen this before so I might be not of much help, but to start to clarify - is it the former or latter command triggering this?
[06:56] <cpaelzer> also do you run as root/sudo or as normal user
[06:57] <cpaelzer> Maybe pastebin the output of `ip addr show dev enp35s0` ?
[06:57] <cpaelzer> I tried the same command on a system with ipv4+ipv6 and this was fine
[06:58] <Andreios9> cpaelzer: as root, the latter
[08:23] <mirespace> good morning
[08:24] <Chunkyz> morning mirespace :-)
[08:24] <mirespace> :)
[11:42] <coreycb> shubjero: for releases where that bug is not fixed you can install heat with "apt install --install-suggests heat-engine" and it should install those additional clients
[12:11] <ahasenack> good morning
[12:19] <athos> good morning!
[12:22] <shubjero> coreycb: yeah sounds good corey I'm ok with that.
[19:35] <ahasenack> can I get an eye double check please
[19:35] <ahasenack> I'm failing to see where the error is
[19:35] <ahasenack> lemme paste something
[19:36] <ahasenack> here: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/JyzT97Ck47/
[19:36] <ahasenack> why this:
[19:36] <ahasenack> src/modules/rlm_python3/rlm_python3.c:50:76: error: expected ‘,’ or ‘;’ before ‘LT_SHREXT’
[19:36] <ahasenack>    50 |    "libpython" STRINGIFY(PY_MAJOR_VERSION) "." STRINGIFY(PY_MINOR_VERSION) LT_SHREXT
[19:36] <ahasenack> I patched that, ok, it used to be:
[19:37] <ahasenack> #define LIBPYTHON_LINKER_NAME \
[19:37] <ahasenack>     "libpython" STRINGIFY(PY_MAJOR_VERSION) "." STRINGIFY(PY_MINOR_VERSION) "m.so"
[19:37] <ahasenack> bit LT_SHREXT is ".so"
[19:38] <ahasenack> but*
[19:39] <sarnold> baffling
[19:40] <ahasenack> hm, maybe I'm not including the file that defines LT_SHREXT
[19:40] <ahasenack> let me check
[19:40] <bryceh> yeah that was gonna be my guess
[19:40] <bryceh> everything else looks ok
[19:41] <ahasenack> yeah, that's it
[19:41] <ahasenack> it's defined in a .c
[19:41] <sergiodj> ahasenack: LT_SHREXT doesn't seem to be defined
[19:41] <ahasenack> yep
[19:41] <ahasenack> thx :)
[19:42] <sergiodj> gotta love preprocessor errors
[19:42] <bryceh> @sergiodj, indeed, it's #included in the job description
[19:42] <sergiodj> haha :)
[19:43] <sarnold> booooo boooo I say boooo
[19:43] <sarnold> :D
[19:43] <ahasenack> error, expected "," or ";" before 'boooo'
[19:45] <ahasenack> ok, fix confirmed (not the LT_SHREXT thing, well, that too), but the actual thing I was working on
[19:47] <sergiodj> meanwhile, I'm debugging one of those problems that only manifest on autopkgtest.u.c.  sigh
[19:48] <ahasenack> that's annoying


 hi
 good evening, would it be possible to add a function to choose a ringtone or a notification in the contact options
 ??
[00:24] <ubports_bot> Project daily-hammerhead build #329: FAILURE in 10 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-hammerhead/329/
[01:47] <tgBot10> StevenRichard_Last was added by: StevenRichard_Last
 hello
 im new member
 Hello new member
 i have question, thats ubuntu touch chroot or native linux?
 @Sconio, Place a request in the github.
[02:18] <navarrorinaldi> Hey guys
[02:20] <navarrorinaldi> I'm flushing my nexus 4 phone and it's been stuck here:
[02:20] <navarrorinaldi> Flashing version 144 from 15.04/devel channel and server http://system-image.ubports.com to device mako
[02:20] <navarrorinaldi> for about an hour
[02:20] <navarrorinaldi> is that normal?
 Nop it's not
 should take 5-10 min max
[02:54] <navarrorinaldi> I stopped it and started it again and still the same thing?
[02:54] <navarrorinaldi> Any idea of what could be happening?
 Without log or more information, no. What tool do you use to flash it?
[03:00] <navarrorinaldi> sudo ubuntu-device-flash -v --server=http://system-image.ubports.com touch --device=mako --channel=15.04/devel --bootstrap
[03:01] <navarrorinaldi> I tried -v
[03:01] <navarrorinaldi> but nothing gets logged
[03:01] <navarrorinaldi> is there any kind of diagnostic tool I can use?
 Is the device in fastboot when you run that, and is it unlocked?
[03:08] <navarrorinaldi> let me check that
 I *think* that device is supported by the UBports installer. https://github.com/ubports/ubports-installer/releases
 Otherwise you might try : https://github.com/MariusQuabeck/magic-device-tool it's support the nexus 4, but the channel needs to be verify.
 you see plenty of choice :)
[03:21] <navarrorinaldi> let me check that
[03:30] <navarrorinaldi> hey, the magic-device-tool is working fine
 is shoud use the same command as you set earlier :)
 Anyway, welcome onboard !!!
[03:31] <navarrorinaldi> evidently I was doing something wrong
[03:31] <navarrorinaldi> it's pushing things into the phone now
 missing an argument or worng writing like - instead of - -
[03:32] <navarrorinaldi> I have an orange dot jumping through the screen now
[03:32] <navarrorinaldi> should I wait?
[03:33] <navarrorinaldi> sorry to bother you man
 Ho yes !
[03:34] <navarrorinaldi> cool
 wait until you got the welcome screen
[03:34] <navarrorinaldi> thanks for hanging on there
[03:34] <navarrorinaldi> perfect
[03:34] <navarrorinaldi> thanks
[03:34] <navarrorinaldi> :)
[03:34] <navarrorinaldi> I'm excited
 better to be excited ^^
 you'll see a second life for this nice N4
[03:36] <navarrorinaldi> I'm an old ubuntu user
[03:36] <navarrorinaldi> having ubuntu in my phone is god's gift
[03:36] <navarrorinaldi> hehe
[03:36] <navarrorinaldi> and there it is
[03:36] <navarrorinaldi> yes!!!
 it's a community gift ;) thanks to all
[03:39] <navarrorinaldi> yes!!
[03:39] <navarrorinaldi> it's a way of saying it
[03:39] <navarrorinaldi> it's there
[03:39] <navarrorinaldi> thanks a lot for your help
[03:39] <navarrorinaldi> I'll start playing with it
[03:39] <navarrorinaldi> suggestion on how to help the community?
 depends of your skill ... look on the website and forum and don't forget donation that helps to run the server and pay the coffee to the team : https://www.patreon.com/ubports
[03:44] <navarrorinaldi> I'll certainly do that
[03:44] <navarrorinaldi> I'm a developer also
[03:44] <navarrorinaldi> I would enjoy helping that way also
 did someone say coffee
[03:45] <navarrorinaldi> hehe
 @navarrorinaldi, According to your skills, there is some app which needs a maintainer, if you want
[04:07] <navarrorinaldi> @tgBot10 Sure. Whatever I can do to help
[04:27] <ubports_bot> Project vivid-rootfs-armhf build #136: SUCCESS in 1.3 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/vivid-rootfs-armhf/136/
[04:27] <ubports_bot> Project ota-push build #1055: SUCCESS in 0.46 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/1055/
[04:37] <navarrorinaldi> cool
[04:37] <navarrorinaldi> I'll give a look tomorrow
[04:37] <navarrorinaldi> it
[04:38] <navarrorinaldi> is 1 am and need to go sleep now
[04:38] <navarrorinaldi> thanks a lot for your help!!
[04:43] <navarrorinaldi> @tgBot10 Not sure how to help with that. Maybe those post from ubports_bot wasn't for me???
[04:43] <tgBot10> Jorge was added by: Jorge
 Hello everyone
 Fist of all, thank you developers! I am new to UBports and was wondering where I can find documentation, besides google, on how to multiboot-install UBtouch on OnePlus One
 @ubports_bot, Does this mean ota rollout started?
 @navarrorinaldi, Welcome. Thank you for offering your help. You can have a look at the ubports github reposition at https://github.com/ubports to orientate for dev support.
 Unfortunately I man not a developer but if I where I would support the uMatriks development https://github.com/LarreaMikel/uMatriks
 navarrorinaldi: developers are always very welcome! You can find all our code on github.com/ubports. There are also some issues tagged as help wanted: https://github.com/search?utf8=✓&q=org%3Aubports+label%3A%22help+wanted%22+is%3Aopen&type= and some components that need maintainers
 @nikhilbhalwankar, No, not yet. We should probably remove those messages:D they're confusing
 @Jorge, Welcome:) sorry, since making efidroid or Multirom work is very complicated and creates many additional edge cases for each device, we don't support it. That doesn't mean it's not possible, but it might not be that easy to set up and there might be new bugs... If you just want to check out Ubuntu touch to see what it's about, I suggest you make a backup of your android system and install: github.com/ubports/ubports-installer. If you
[06:10] <tgBot10> don't like it, just go back to android ;)
 Thanks Jan, that's what I decided to do, unfortunately, I'm working on oem-unlocking my OPO as it is not unlocking. Will report back soon!
 OTA-2 coming tomorrow it will be like Christmas morning!
 (Photo, 540x960) https://irc.ubports.com/RP8aBodZ/file_697.jpg
 Hi guys. I am experiencing two issues. 1) Every time I either change the focus from the browser to anything else or close and reopen it, I get the ubuntu / google start tap and all the other pages I was reading are closed. 2) When I go to setup and try to check if there are any updates, the setup crashes and closes. I didn't install anything recently.
 (Photo, 540x960) https://irc.ubports.com/pUKPECa1/file_699.jpg
 plus, my weather indicator is gone
 (Photo, 540x960) https://irc.ubports.com/8d5lH8XW/file_701.jpg
[07:24] <tgBot10> nikhilubuntu was added by: nikhilubuntu
 @neothethird, I was able to resolve my OPO issue, in case anyone needs to know, I found the ONePlusOne-BootUnlocker.zip on xda-developers. Once issue was resolved, I was able to install UBports on my phone very seemlessly, and I have to say " I love it". Thank you developers!
 @giovanniiannotti, can anyone help?
 Interface is very clean, the way a phone has to be. On the OnePlus One, however, the hardware buttons are not working. I checked systems settings but there was nothing to enable for 'buttons'. Something else I noticed is that the edges are not as easy to swipe. I have to take several attempts for the edges to pop up
 Does the Ubuntu Touch gui even have any use for this buttons? SailfishOS for example can't use them by design
 Perhaps that is the case for UBPhones, I don't know, but I would like to know how to go back to the previous screen.
[08:23] <ubports_bot> Project daily-fp2 build #347: SUCCESS in 13 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-fp2/347/
[08:24] <ubports_bot> Project ota-push build #1056: SUCCESS in 1 min 6 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/1056/
 Camera is not working on OnePlus One. Check permissions but there is nothing to do. Rebooted the phone but the problem persisted
 WiFi not working either on OPO, only celular data
 update to the latest build, it was fixed recently
 what channel are you on?
 I'm afraid I am not understanding you, channel? as in the frequency of the wifi signal?
 the update channel of ubports
 stable, rc or devel
 stable 15.04
 camera and wifi fixes were not pushed to stable as of now iirc
 so switch to rc or devel in order if you want them working
 I tapped on Updates under System Settings but there is no update available
 you have to SWITCH the channel
 it's not an update 😒
 let me find out how to do that. I am getting acquainted with the UI
 run `sudo ubuntu-device-flash --server=http://system-image.ubports.com touch --device={DEVICE CODENAME} \--channel=15.04/rc`
 I forgot opo's codename, I'm sure you know it
 thanks bud, will try
 I will google it
 It is bacon on Android but I am double checking
 @LoorJ, yep, bacon, right
 Yes it is bacon also
 @vanyasem, From adb
 you can also try running  `system-image-cli --switch ubports-touch/15.04/rc` from the device itself, but at my experience it never works
 I was trying to run the line you gave me above from command line
 @vanyasem, you should run this from your desktop
 @vanyasem, or this from your phone
 I get "Exception occurred during update; see log file ofr details"
 which one ?
 does not say
 which command have you run?
 and where?
 @vanyasem, I used it with sudo and used the pin I set up for my phone
 yeah, I told you, it rarely works
 @vanyasem, so plug your phone into any Ubuntu PC, intaall deps `sudo apt-get install ubuntu-device-flash phablet-tools` and run this
 @vanyasem, if I run this one from my PC, should I used adb with the phone logged into UB or recovery?
 you just need to install the dependencies: `sudo apt-get install ubuntu-device-flash phablet-tools` … and run ubuntu-device-flash, it will trigger adb automatically
 @LoorJ, you need to enable developers mode on your phone
 and then just connect it to the PC
 unfortunately, I left my linux machine at home but I am using a borrowed mac, I guess I cannot do the commands you suggested above
 @LoorJ, Short swipe from right edge (to the left) for the previous app and long swipe from left edge (to the right) for the home screen
 Thanks
 @LoorJ, you need an Ubuntu machine with apt package manager. you can always run Ubuntu in a VM
 to resolve this quickly, I am going to install again picking 15.04 RC from UBports installer
 @vanyasem, I guess I would be able to run it from Linux Mint, which I believe is installed on this machine too
 @LoorJ, yep, Linux Mint will do
 There is a command to change channels from your phone
 and that is?
 Ah Ivan provided that
 But you need to add your device at the end
 system-image-cli --switch ubports-touch/15.04/rc/bacon
 will try that. Out of curiosity, is there a way to show the command history or the up arrow in cli so we don't have to retype the whole line again?
 Yes
 Swipe up down on terminal
 Exception occurred during update; see log file for details
 Maybe sudo is needed
 I used sudo
 @NikosChat, this command never worked for me on Nexus 5 :)
 Tried it on my phone and it doesn't work. I get the same message.
 Reinstalling
 @neothethird any ideas why system-image-cli --switch ubports-touch/15.04/rc/bacon doesn't work?
 @neothethird
[09:54] <tgBot10> ouyangjun1999 was added by: ouyangjun1999
 Getting a new load of errors when compiling the Camera subsystem … ```evice/zuk/ham/camera/QCamera2/HAL/QCamera2HWI.cpp: In member function 'int32_t qcamera::QCamera2HardwareInterface::processFaceDetectionResult(cam_face_detection_data_t*)': … device/zuk/ham/camera/QCamera2/HAL/QCamera2HWI.cpp:4994:22: error: 'camera_face_t' has no member named 'smile_degree' …              faces[i].smile_degree = fd_data->faces[i].smile_degree; …
[10:05] <tgBot10> device/zuk/ham/camera/QCamera2/HAL/QCamera2HWI.cpp:4995:22: error: 'camera_face_t' has no member named 'smile_score' …              faces[i].smile_score = fd_data->faces[i].smile_confidence; …                       ^ … device/zuk/ham/camera/QCamera2/HAL/QCamera2HWI.cpp:4996:22: error: 'camera_face_t' has no member named 'blink_detected' …              faces[i].blink_detected = fd_data->faces[i].blink_detected; …                       ^ …
[10:05] <tgBot10> device/zuk/ham/camera/QCamera2/HAL/QCamera2HWI.cpp:4997:22: error: 'camera_face_t' has no member named 'face_recognised' …              faces[i].face_recognised = fd_data->faces[i].face_recognised; …                       ^ … device/zuk/ham/camera/QCamera2/HAL/QCamera2HWI.cpp:4998:22: error: 'camera_face_t' has no member named 'gaze_angle' …              faces[i].gaze_angle = fd_data->faces[i].gaze_angle; …                       ^ …
[10:05] <tgBot10> device/zuk/ham/camera/QCamera2/HAL/QCamera2HWI.cpp:5001:22: error: 'camera_face_t' has no member named 'updown_dir' …              faces[i].updown_dir = fd_data->faces[i].updown_dir * 2; …                       ^ … device/zuk/ham/camera/QCamera2/HAL/QCamera2HWI.cpp:5002:22: error: 'camera_face_t' has no member named 'leftright_dir' …              faces[i].leftright_dir = fd_data->faces[i].leftright_dir * 2; …                       ^ …
[10:05] <tgBot10> device/zuk/ham/camera/QCamera2/HAL/QCamera2HWI.cpp:5003:22: error: 'camera_face_t' has no member named 'roll_dir' …              faces[i].roll_dir = fd_data->faces[i].roll_dir * 2; …                       ^ … device/zuk/ham/camera/QCamera2/HAL/QCamera2HWI.cpp:5005:22: error: 'camera_face_t' has no member named 'leye_blink' …              faces[i].leye_blink = fd_data->faces[i].left_blink; …                       ^ …
[10:05] <tgBot10> device/zuk/ham/camera/QCamera2/HAL/QCamera2HWI.cpp:5006:22: error: 'camera_face_t' has no member named 'reye_blink' …              faces[i].reye_blink = fd_data->faces[i].right_blink; …                       ^ … device/zuk/ham/camera/QCamera2/HAL/QCamera2HWI.cpp:5007:22: error: 'camera_face_t' has no member named 'left_right_gaze' …              faces[i].left_right_gaze = fd_data->faces[i].left_right_gaze; …                       ^ …
[10:05] <tgBot10> device/zuk/ham/camera/QCamera2/HAL/QCamera2HWI.cpp:5008:22: error: 'camera_face_t' has no member named 'top_bottom_gaze' …              faces[i].top_bottom_gaze = fd_data->faces[i].top_bottom_gaze;```
 Reinstalled with 15.04 RC channel, and confirmed that camera and wifi are working on OPO
 @Lorxu, I understand we need strategy and tactics
 any idea : … ```device/zuk/ham/camera/QCamera2/HAL/test/qcamera_test.cpp:1564:35: error: cannot allocate an object of abstract type 'android::MediaRecorder'```
[10:51] <tgBot10> edergilian was added by: edergilian
 @edergilian, welcome
 Welcome
 Moto x style 1572?
 @edergilian, Moto X Style 1572 what?
 Dekko update! \o/
 @DanChapman, woop wooop :D
 @aki237, is this using halium?
 @mariogrip, Sorry?
 I think it is from the cm-12.1 deice repos
 any news regarding Mir patch? anything new about 16.04 at all?
 @aki237, ok, you might give direct_camera_test a try
 @vanyasem, jep https://launchpad.net/~mariogrip/+archive/ubuntu/halium-7.1-caf
 i was not ready for this :P
 happily giggling
 @mariogrip, I haven't ported hallium yet for my device
 from the wiki, I have added all my local_manifests and built the source
 @aki237, that binary is avable on ubp-5.1 also
 @aki237, yeah, you should get that test from that source also, check in /system/bin/direct_camera_test
 @mariogrip, So you are saying by syncing ubp-5.1 repos I have built hallium?
 @vanyasem, :)
 @mariogrip, So I dont have to build the device camera test?
 @aki237, yeah, halium is a fork of ubp-5.1
 @aki237, you should alredy have that
 it's in ubuntu/hybris
 @mariogrip, in the system.img file?
 @aki237, yes
 Actually yeah I have that direct_camera_test
 @aki237, ok, then just disable this test ^
 How to?
 there should be an Android.mk in the device/zuk/ham/camera/QCamera2/HAL/test folder, just try to rename that so the build system do not pick it up
 Ok
 device/zuk/ham/camera/QCamera2/HAL/test/Android.mk No such file or directory
 remove include $(LOCAL_PATH)/test/Android.mk from  camera/QCamera2/HAL/Android.mk
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/SLpeNGpY/file_703.png
 hahahah :D
 (Photo, 1440x2560) https://irc.ubports.com/ZTLgNUT0/file_705.jpg
 mir on halium 7.1 :D
 on oneplus 3 :D
 how did you do that?
 @mariogrip, nice!
 are there any additional steps to run it?
 @vanyasem, add the ppa, apt update&upgrade then run `mir_demo_standalone_render_to_fb`
 im quite new to porting
 @mariogrip, at what point?
 @vanyasem, no problem :)
 @vanyasem, this is after you got the device up and running and can access ssh
 and wifi
 @mariogrip, and do I run this from the desktop ?
 or from the ssh?
 Is there any specific reason why you don't use the quilt way of packaging?
 @vanyasem, yes, from ssh
 alright, thank you, will be playing with that later on PME (HTC 10)
 will message you in halium chat if i get stuch mid-way
 @JBBgameich, easier :) this was just a test repo so. will fix it later
 Ah :)
 @vanyasem, no problem :) just ping me away
 I've done something similar earlier, I'm not sure if you have seen it. It's untested btw 😆
 https://github.com/debian-pm/libhybris-packaging/tree/ubports
 @JBBgameich, yeah saw it, haven't tried it yet, this was just using the xenial things and make them work with caf
 will try those later
 @mariogrip, So this is still the older libhybris (non-upstream)?
 @JBBgameich, yes
 @mariogrip btw about CAF, have you seen amdroid-headers packaging trick I've?
 @mariogrip, One plus is very popular ?
 it's cheap and open, so yep, pretty much
 @vanyasem, insert yo mama joke here
 wud
 oh I got it
 😂
 but yeah, they make pretty nifty devices
 I've seen a video on why they won't for long
 we can see with their latest devices that they started to aim more to regular users and not us, crazy devs
[12:40] <tgBot10> <Stefan Kalb> @giovanniiannotti, I am Not sure, but isn't there already r4 for krillin.
 (Photo, 1440x2560) https://irc.ubports.com/FkSUZZxP/file_707.jpg
 somethings happeening
[12:55] <ubports_bot> Project daily-mako build #122: SUCCESS in 12 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-mako/122/
[12:55] <ubports_bot> Project ota-push build #1057: SUCCESS in 0.55 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/1057/
 @mariogrip, is that 16.04 UBports on 1+3??
 @vanyasem, jep!
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/F0duas1z/file_708.webp
 can we share the image? :))
 that's so impressive!
 I even got hard
 too bad unity crashes, but things will work out eventually
 @popescu_sorin, sure :D
 yay :D
 @vanyasem, @neothethird this is your area
 @vanyasem, soon tm :P
 (Photo, 454x626) https://irc.ubports.com/qpS417tJ/file_710.jpg
 (Sticker, 512x400) https://irc.ubports.com/GQqwJdgU/file_711.webp
 Mmm furry at ubuntu channel? :)
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/eXXSyM7j/file_712.webp
 :)
 Furries are everywhere :)
 Yeah, especially in tech and art
 Yeah
 @vanyasem, I want to buy it😂😂😂
 But one plus five is less open and cheaper
 https://github.com/mymike00/school-timetable.git … A new version will be out soon, if someone would like to translate it, please send me the .po or make a pull request🤝. Thank you all😍
 @mymike00, May I suggest Weblate? ;)
 @ouyangjun1999, Like xiaomi
 just waiting porting on xiaomi redmi 3 ido
 @ouyangjun1999, exactly
 Fwd from vanyasem: we can see with their latest devices that they started to aim more on regular users and not us, crazy devs
 @Lorxu, yep, it would be perfect, but I don't have my own website and it's not so useful/downloaded to put it on translate.ubports.com ...
 @mymike00, You could ask on hosted.weblate.org, only issue with that is that they take up to a month to approve you
 thanks, maybe I'll try
 (Photo, 410x206) https://irc.ubports.com/uejl9eQg/file_714.jpg I get this always///
 some people can't join this group ^^ this message
 can somoane invite? @Javacookies
 not sure how telegram works X-)
[13:26] <tgBot10> Javacookies was added by: UniversalSuperBox
 Left right away.
 Mods could also put an invite link in the description to share for when that link doesn't work
 We had another user who this happened for.
 thanks! @UniversalSuperBox
 I don't know how he fixed it, other than waiting.  Left immediately.
 @Lorxu, Actually nvm I forgot the invite link is the same in this case
 (Photo, 448x121) https://irc.ubports.com/wnpuTzHS/file_716.jpg
 Fwd from Javacookies: did you add me to the group? … i have it in my list but I can't enter
 maybe he's banned? :))
 He's not banned
 (Photo, 609x499) https://irc.ubports.com/Ip1PIbze/file_718.jpg ???
 Let him know to wait a bit and it'll probably start working again
 Who told me again Telegram was well-coded? This is what I mean :P
 generic complaining about Telegram
 ok
 @Javacookies hello?
 Its possible that javacookies is from some countries for which supergroups are banned
 indonesia i think
 or http://philippines/
 For instance one person from Philippines iirc couldn't join halium telegram group
 @bhushanshah, Whaa?
 @Lorxu, Yes.. don't ask me why
 Spam problems as they say about it
 @mimecar I see new resources for the programming course! Awesome!
 @UniversalSuperBox can you try to invite javacookies in non supergroup?
 Wtf... Surely there are at least 7 million better ways to fix that...
 @bhushanshah, I'm not a blue star over there. I guess @mariogrip is gonna have to do it.
 Yes, it's the first version of the virtual machine. Later on I hope to reduce the size and add some things.
 I have also uploaded the presentation I made at the Ubucon for those who could not attend.
 @UniversalSuperBox, you are a star now
 Lol.. new superstar in town.. watch out for @UniversalSuperBox
 He is now a member of the other group!
 @Lorxu, They said that they are gonna fix that.. guess they never fixed it yey
 yay! thank @UniversalSuperBox
 Who's doing polish translations please? There is mistake on location setup when choosing way of receiving informations
 Probably several people on Weblate, you can fix it yourself too
 Yeah I know, but maybe there is somebody to reach out too, polish is not my native language u know and it would be way faster for natives. and Iam on tablet now ...
 im sorry developer, are usbtouch os support for xiaomi redmi 3? im from indonesian 😁
 there's no port for that device right now.
 "usbtouch"
 I lost it there
 ups sorry typo
 @vanyasem, Yep I saw ubsports lately from somebody :) that just happends
 that's funny though ;)
 @DanChapman, oh thanks for information
 @StevenRichard_Last, no problem, don't worry
 just one question if i installed ubuntutouch , can i run docker ?
 @StevenRichard_Last, haven't tried, but if docker can run on vivid, then it might do
 the only proboblm might be to get lxc to behave
 why would you want to?
 @StevenRichard_Last, In this blog post, there is a xiami device  running Plasma Mobile, which uses the same porting infrastructure that UBports will use in the future. Do you know if that's your device?
 http://blog.bshah.in/2017/09/19/plasma-mobile-in-randaaa/
 @JBBgameich, ok i'll check it
 @rogieroudshoorn, it's linux, the question is, why not
 i'm merely curious
 @StevenRichard_Last, If it's your device, it may be supported in the future
 @JBBgameich, oh no thats xiaomi mi not redmi 3 😭,
 @StevenRichard_Last, it's a qcom device, so might be a "easy" tartget to port
 Ah sorry. You could port Halium to it if you have enough time
 t.me/halium
 ok thanks for answering my question 😁
 @JBBgameich, Note, this is not a place to ask for porting progress. This is a group for Halium developers and those interested in listening in to their conversations.
 @UniversalSuperBox, this supergroup is also not a place to ask for porting progress but nobody really cares
 @vanyasem, 😅 i'm so sorry.
[15:56] <tgBot10> Hasan317 was added by: Hasan317
 Then, where can we ask about the devices? I would like to know if the Meizu Pro 5 will recieve some ota update? And not only security updates.
 current devices - here. new devices - nowhere (the answer is always "no" or "at some point")
 Hey guys. Have a oneplus one and instaled Ubuntu Touch via multirom app. Anyone know how to update to last version? Mine is 15.04 stable
 with `sudo` in your phone
 Fwd from NikosChat: system-image-cli --switch ubports-touch/15.04/rc/bacon
 If it's installed with multirom app, that might not be possible.
 We don't support multirom any more.
 @UniversalSuperBox, oh, I missed that part
 sry
 👍
 @vanyasem, But that's kind of like saying "go away as you don't have one of our current devices". Should it not be where any question related to ubports on *any* device is welcome? Even if it means the same questions get asked over and over. It's usually the first time for the person asking.
 what should we do instead of saying the truth tho?
 I think he means, say no but nicely
 i have an idea
 let's make a template then
 with a polite way of saying no
 It's not hard.
 We'd love to support as many devices as possible. Unfortunately porting a new device takes a long time and there are only a few of us doing the work. More developers working on porting devices would mean more devices ported. This will particularly be true when the Halium Project is successful.
[16:11] <ubports_bot> Project click-import build #1: SUCCESS in 19 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/click-import/1/
 @BrisPete, ty, copied
 @BrisPete, Especially when there would finally be a UBports rootfs for Halium :)
 @Jaume81, there is a big change that that will get xenial anyway, since canonical has done the work in for it to run on xenial
 chance*
 @UniversalSuperBox, thanks autocorrect :)
 beep
[16:29] <tgBot10> KOKI22 was added by: KOKI22
 @mariogrip, Sorry, I try the traduction but I don't understand. … You say that since Canonical left the project, there are changes? I bought the Meizu a few weeks ago, and it's the Ubuntu Edition.
 There have been changes?
 And I don't undrestand too when you say, that will get xenial anyway.  … I install Ubports OS by the tool Mac.0.16v with a Mac.
 I think he means Pro 5 is probably going to receive 16.04 since Canoniacal already made an effort for this
 @Jaume81, I said, that canonical has alredy done the work for us to bring that device to xenial (next ubuntu version)
 @NikosChat, yes
 that means the device might not "only get security updates"
 @mariogrip, You are being diplomatic here!! @UniversalSuperBox might appreciate this
 Ok. I understand, thanks and sorry. I will be patience.
 But if I have installed the ubports version, and Canonical send the update, will I recieved?
 canonical won't be sending any more updates
 Then I will recieve by ubports.good. …  Hey!! Thanks for Dekko 2. Searching mails is very easy and nice. Some bugs but see good
[16:47] <ubports_bot> Project click-import build #2: SUCCESS in 4.6 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/click-import/2/
[16:48] <ubports_bot> Project vivid-rootfs-armhf build #137: SUCCESS in 1.6 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/vivid-rootfs-armhf/137/
[16:48] <ubports_bot> Project ota-push build #1058: SUCCESS in 0.45 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/1058/
 Hey... Guyz.. I am eager to move my main sim to Nexus 5.. but only issue that holds me back WhatsApp as my family and friends are on that platform. Anyway to make WhatsApp works on latest stable?
 There's loqui, but I'm not sure how that's working
 @UniversalSuperBox, Is that similar to webapp?
 I am definitely not the developer of LoquiIM, nor have I ever used it
 @Vijay, no, it's a native client. It works, but it's not very stable.
 do you have another phone? i just have another android phone laying around which is running whatsapp, so i can look at it occasionally. If someone has something important, they'll call or use sms or telegram.
 or email
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/0tOp0Nii/file_720.jpg It's as if we're having an in-person sprint. Except we aren't.
 @neothethird, I do have other phone... But I don't want to switch the mobiles only for single app... UT is completely ready for my kind of usage except whatspp
 You can use the hotspot on one when you need to listen on the other
 Is this a solution to WhatsApp not working? Probably not. Contributing to LoquiIM would be a solution though. :)
 How to install ubuntu for android?
 Ubuntu for Android does not exist
 Maybe Ubuntu on Android devices?
 However, if you have a supported device as noted on https://ubports.com/page/get-ubuntu-touch, you can use the instructions there to install Ubuntu Touch on your Android phone.
 LoquilM is not usable. Don't decryp message.  … It's amazing when connect the Meizu to TV. Nice future.
 Similar the Microsoft's convergence but look more nice.
 ota2 already out?
 Not yet
 But the hype train does not stop
 That is to say, the release notes are written and the announcement post is in progress. :)
 (Photo, 1172x900) https://irc.ubports.com/ptls6hfY/file_722.jpg it never does
 Brilliant! Thanks to all the developer, translator and others
 Question: File Manager gets listed in OpenStore and System Settings;
 Yeah, there's numbering issue.
 as upgradable:
 @UniversalSuperBox, there's an older version of file manager in opensrore
 we bundle a newer one
 @koni_raid, and it doesn't get listed as "upgradeble", there's a note that it will actually downgrade it to the latest version uploaded to OpenStore
 ok
 http://cdimage.ubports.com/clicks/  … I saw it features a newer version of file manager, which is likely the one that comes preinstalled in ubports images. Would you mind to make it available on OpenStore too? It would fix the issue :)
 You don't own that app @sverzegnassi ?
 No, it's owned by UBports
 riiiiiight
 I'm quite stressed. :P
 @sverzegnassi, they are not all up-to-date
 @mariogrip, Just the file manager.
 the click-importer has done it's job
 @UniversalSuperBox, le me edit that -> "they are all up-to-date"
 here you can see what rev they are http://cdimage.ubports.com/clicks/apps_ctrl.ini
 com.ubuntu.filemanager = 5
 @UniversalSuperBox, Don't ask me the amount of mails or messages I had to reply for this file manager issue 😆
 @mariogrip, So... that guy is in the store now?
 the importer has imported the versions that's on the openstore
 It has been in the store since always, it's the older version of file manager
 Apparently, Ubuntu Store has a newer one for some reason, and that's the origin of the issue
 Marius, the problem is that the Ubuntu Store has a newer version than the OpenStore. The OpenStore wants to downgrade it, then the ubuntu store wants to upgrade
 If you upload the newer version to the OpenStore the issue will be resolved
 done
 @sverzegnassi our lives are saved!
 @UniversalSuperBox our inboxes are saved!
 Aren't they the same thing?
 lol
 So... is this the overhauled version of the File Manager, or has that not been pulled yet?
 The new version of file manager is not complete yet, and we (Bjarne and I) are currently pushing code here: https://github.com/sverzegnassi/filemanager-app
 Neat!
 ETA for a first beta is next week, so we're almost there
[18:04] <ubports_bot> Project click-import build #3: SUCCESS in 9.6 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/click-import/3/
[18:05] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> Hi, There is one more non ! ubports app with tah same version problem
[18:05] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> wifitransfer
[18:05] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/S5QKf3jd/file_724.jpg
 That, unfortunately, would be the responsibility of its author
 I'll PM Stuart
[18:07] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> Great Dalton, thanks
 Done
 Out of curiosity, how many of you currently use WifiTransfer?
 @sverzegnassi, you should use a bot to count them
[18:35] <tgBot10> riccardovidotto was added by: riccardovidotto
 Do you use WifiTransfer? … Yes … ▫ 0% … No … ▫ 0% … Never heard of it … ▫ 0% … 👥 Nobody voted so far.
 @riccardovidotto, welcome
 @vanyasem, Thank you, hi everybody!
 i have it but i don't use it.
 usually I use sshfs mount comand
 @j2g2rp, same
 @garrogarri, It was just an informal question, I was wondering if it is worth to include something similar to WifiTransfer into File Manager :)
 I use scp
 @sverzegnassi, I would suggest to include support for sftp and ftps 😊
[19:27] <tgBot10> <demokrit atomos> @sverzegnassi, If you mean the App Wifi-transfer: never if you mean something similar (KDEconnect on Android): all the time
[19:28] <tgBot10> <demokrit atomos> (in short +1)
[19:29] <tgBot10> <demokrit atomos> on a completely different subject, does anyone know where in the code the shell rotation/gyroscope response is handled or how i find out about this (where to look and how 😜)?
[19:36] <ubports_bot> Project vivid-rootfs-armhf build #138: SUCCESS in 1 hr 31 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/vivid-rootfs-armhf/138/
[19:44] <ubports_bot> Project ota-push build #1059: SUCCESS in 7 min 39 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/1059/
 @UniversalSuperBox, There is 'WhatsApp Desktop'  … https://github.com/Enrico204/Whatsapp-Desktop/releases
 Great
 @patrix0, With its source code, then, it could be a WhatsApp Desktop for UBports.
 @patrix0, Make a webapp out of it, than you have confinement...
[19:49] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/0AF6N6mR/file_726.jpg
[19:50] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> Does anybody use this app? It is missing in OpenStore.
[19:55] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> @sverzegnassi, great
 @patrix0, Whats the point you still need an android or iphone whatsapp active for it to work. Since whatsapp is not opensource there will be no native touch app in the near future
 Hi Flo, or are you with the Telegram application? :)
 🙂
 I am what? Xd
 On my E5 now
 But going to bed soon
 I want to know the advancement of telegram app, you talked about it a few days ago.
 ok
 We always advance, but with different speed xd
 (Photo, 580x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/Xbbh9TH7/file_727.jpg
 I like this application
 (Photo, 580x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/Gk7NCQG2/file_727.jpg
[20:24] <tgBot10> Ginés was added by: Ginés
 @Milan Korecky, We definitely should do something for missing apps (at least for open source ones). As we already did for some apps, we could fork the code on GitHub, build and upload a package as "OpenStore team", and eventually wait for someone who wants to maintain the app. Let's see, I'm sure this will be discussed very soon :)
 I am wondering if it is possible to build apps using `electron`. It runs on all OS so maybe also on UT?
 @HenryOne, please no.
 Electron is famously resource-heavy. I'm typing in Franz, a chat client that uses it, right now. I have 6 tabs with 6 different chat systems. Each tab takes 100-200MB of RAM and the app is using a gig of RAM.
 Yes really.
 So, no, Electron on mobile, NOT good.
 @Sconio, supergroup convertion is missing in Telegram for UBports.
 @lproven, Why?
 electron is a bad idea by itself
 Which part of "a chat app taking a gig of RAM" was not clear?!
 I'm on a quad-core desktop with 8G of RAM. It's tolerable. On a phone? NO.
 Can we please not get into an Electron holy war? thanks.
 you disagree with that it sucks?
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/4vXDMyU6/file_728.mp4
 Some of the tools are very very useful. It has a place. But resource-efficient it's not.
 @demokrit atomos, If you mean lock screen rotation  then there is an indicator for that. Pull down from top and scroll through indicators to find it
 @patrix0, We are working on this, but still ETA is a few more weeks
 a wild stable release appears https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/ubports-ota-2-release-78
 The UBports project is excited to announce the immediate availability of Ubuntu Touch 15.04 OTA-2. … https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/ubuntu-touch-ota-2-release-78
 Oh... whoops
 The ninja was ninja'd
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/XhReK00n/file_729.mp4
 @UniversalSuperBox, Yay! 🎉🎉
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/W6V7sINB/file_730.mp4
 @UniversalSuperBox, Crossposted :P
 @sverzegnassi, We can get to backup of all ckickables from canonical store, Alan has it, at least we woukd have the apps instalable and runable, even if we wouln'd be able to continue developing them
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/nrC9Qqzj/file_731.mp4
[21:02] <ubports_bot> Project daily-bacon build #279: SUCCESS in 11 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-bacon/279/
[21:03] <ubports_bot> Project ota-push build #1060: SUCCESS in 54 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/1060/
 @thepeter, +1
 @thepeter, Yes, I'm aware of its backup (used to be available online for some time). However, I'm not sure we can just upload everything that used to be available on the old store (unless Canonical have the right to distrubute such software outside their store, and support OpenStore), so building a list of uploadable apps still makes sense for us
 @sverzegnassi, true, it would be great if all that is communicated with canonical side, so we would know where are we standing ... maybe @neothethird may have contacts with them to find out? (but I am not sure in this)
 Kudos and thank you to all the people that made OTA-2 possible 🥇
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/eHdDU1pF/file_732.webp
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 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/6C0jy02x/file_734.jpg Very nice update :) Thx
 @Ben, is that a N5?
 I'd say it is
 just asking because I'm using RC and I don't have the percentage of the battery
 @josueqb, Yes :)
 @josueqb, With the tweak tool ;)
 aah
 nice
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/34S0m5x7/file_736.jpg
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/0aBwORxx/file_738.waveboxdownload
 Very nice.
 Yes :)
 @BrisPete, if you dont mind I like that wallpaper a lot
 @PseudoHuman, I don't mind at all. It came with the OS.😀
 Great :D
 I have a problem with a BQ E4.5 I wrote about this a while ago, but I didn't fix it. The manual carrier searcher is not working ( So I can't use it with some of them)
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/JAkRisqC/file_740.jpg
 Am I the only one with this problem?
 Is that your phone number
 @UniversalSuperBox, sim number i guess
 How would I get to those settings/
 @Galaipa, I haven't seen this before, but will do some digging
 @UniversalSuperBox, mobile -> apn and carrier -> Carrier
 @UniversalSuperBox, No, it isn't
 Ah, okay. My SIM only allows one carrier.
 Have you filed a bug, @Galaipa ?
 @Galaipa, it looks like it's no signal on sim 1, but sim 2 seems to have signal
 have you tired swapping the sim slots?
 @UniversalSuperBox, No, where can I do it?
 uneventful update on fp2 :D yay gg
 Well, first see if what Marius suggested will fix it
 @mariogrip, Sim 2 works correctly, but because the automatic search works. The manual isn't either working in sim 2
 @mariogrip, Yes
 Has it worked in the past?
 Will try to recreate it, seems to work fine on oneplus one so far, will try on my e4.5
 Hi guys, all of a sudden my screen lock menu doesnt show anymore and is called instead "indicator-rotation-lock". What can I do?
 @savetier, what device?
 BQ 4.5
 @UniversalSuperBox, The sim was working, but with the automatic feature. I will try to explain myself a little bit better
 @savetier, when did this happen? on update or just randomly?
 @mariogrip, Just today
 @savetier, without update
 did it happen after a reboot?
 @mariogrip, I didnt realise it rightaway but yes, could be after a reboot
 If I insert this SIM in Android it doesn't work if the "choose the carrier automatically carrier" feature is enabled. But I have a list of avaliable networks, and after choosing the right one, it works. The problem is that I don't see that list in Ubuntu.
 I can't see the list with any of my SIMs. So it only works if the automatic feature chooses the right one.
 @savetier, I'll note it down as a bug report, thank you
 @mariogrip, I rebooted already twice but it didnt change. I gave it another try, and now it is suddenly back?!
 @savetier, I remember similar things happened when I still had Ubuntu Touch, but not the rotation was mixed up, but the network manager
 https://github.com/ubports/ubports-touch/issues/261
 I have seen this isse before also on my oneplus one
 @Galaipa, could you create a bug report on that?
 He asked where before, I'll get the link
 @Galaipa, we track issues at this repository: https://github.com/ubports/ubports-touch
 Ok, thank you
 Wow. After setting the right carrier in Android, the signal works in UBports 😳
 But still can't select manually. I will write the report
 Sorry, I am trying to get the logs but I have this error in adb
 error: device unauthorized. Please check the confirmation dialog on your device.
 but I have no dialogs in the phone
 Do you have developer mode turned on?
 Yes
 I see the phone with "adb devices"
 but it says unauthorized
 there should be a dialog on your phone asking if you "trust this device"
 but ther isn't 😢 I will try with an other PC
 How can I see Netflix in browser?
 before I open a bug report, can someone verify the problems I have with the open store
 if I chose the different "Kategorien" in German, sorry I dont know the English counterpart it stays empty even though it tells me that there should something in it.
 I use bq 4.5
 Are you able to access the internet?
 yes
 Could you try closing and reopening the app? I think the servers are under a bit of stress. :)
 if I use discover, it works fine, also my apps is working properly, but also if I search for Dekko f.e. it tells me nothing found
 @UniversalSuperBox, So this doesn't help?
 Rebooting would be my next idea. Again, I assume their servers are as stressed as ours. :)
 on the nexus 5 it works fine and now under the bq 4.5 too, thanks
 Yay!
 Everything okay in HQ @bhdouglass ? :)
 @Jaume81, Netflix does currently not work in the Ubuntu touch browser, the support for nexflix will come with newer releases of oxide (browser backend)
 But widevine. :/
 no need anymore, they made it work on native html 5
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 hi
 Hello
 i try to flash my MX4 but with no lack so far
 Is it running android
 (Photo, 1175x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/7mWs4moo/file_742.jpg
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/AYr40qcc/file_743.mp4
 Was running Canonical's UT
 with MDT i flash CM
 and now i want to flash Ubports
 @mariogrip, Question … It's working on the OP3 but would it also work on the 3T? … I know the roms are usually compatible with both phones
 MDT gives me error pushing
 @NikosChat, Try the UBports installer `sudo snap install ubports-installer --devmode`
 OK i'll try
 @ZephyrArcturus, Yeah, they should work across eachother
 @mariogrip, Neat! … Can't wait to have both my OPO and my OP3T running ubtouch !
 @ZephyrArcturus, :=)
 @mariogrip, The installer asks for password?
 yes, it's your sudo password
 I have CM right now
 aaaa
 I need to make that more clear that it's the sudo password
 now it just says passoword
 the installer is nice!
 @NikosChat, :)
 @NikosChat, it's still in beta, it still needs some "pretty up" work to make it fully stable. but it's pretty close to been stable :) it even works on mac and windows
 Anyone tried to install Ubuntu on Moto G 2014 Titan? Because I can't complete the procedure and I can't neither boot on Android. Any suggests?
 Moto G 2014 Titan is not a supported device
 Not officially
 Is there a recovery image and an ubuntu image?
 @NikosChat, jep, then it's doing the update
 the installer should say "Success!"
 still pushing files to device (without the orange bar)
 ah ok
 is it normal?
 yes, it will push the files to the device
 it might take a little bit
 OK
 what device is it btw?
 MX4
 Nice
 @NikosChat, still no orange bar?
 there is no orange bar
 hummm, could you send me `cat .cache/ubports/ubports-installer.log`
 seems like we fails to push also for some odd reason
 in .cache i don't have ubports
 maybe /home/[user]/snap/ubports-installer?
 are you sure it's not in ~/.cache/ubports/ubports-installer.log
 ah right! this is a snap
 yes
 right, it's in snap/ubports-installer/current/.cache/ubports/
 no log either
 you might need to run the installer again, since the log file wont get created before the folder ubports is created
 it's a bug i need to fix :)
 running installer again
 and we have a log file
 Nice
 how to send?
 use paste.ubuntu.com
 success!!!!
 oh! did it work now :)
 https://paste.ubuntu.com/25603336/
 Yes it worked
 humm thats nice! but wonder why it didn't work the first time