 @KMyers any reason why this N4 would see a cricket sim but not a t mobile one?
 my cousin has had it on tmobile since it came out
 sweet someone forked my script!
[02:55] <floridagram9> * SivaMachina installs Plank. Then he pushes the typo demons off of it.
[02:55] <floridagram9> * SivaMachina
 Google’s October 4 “Pixel phones” Nexus event is official - SlashGear … http://www.slashgear.com/googles-october-4-pixel-phones-nexus-event-is-official-19456687/
 Want but dont want
 I need to decaffeinate.
 Again?
 Yeah it got bad~
 Also I miss you guys.
 We need to plan something small
 Also, I still have your hat in my car
 haha, I worked out that it was cheaper to buy a new hat than it was to go down to miami to get it. Feel free to use it ♥
 use it / keep it I mean
 We can be hat buddies.
 Not my style
 Aw alright~
 We need to plan something in early October. I am going to be busy this week. Going to do some major remodeling of my room
 Sure thing
 Anki just hit my credit card, looks like they're gearing up to ship those robots
 I cannot wait to see it
 Yes~!!
 It looks like it has a lot of potential
 I'm so excited.
 Supposedly the api is generic, so although they start out with python you can use anything
 I am going to be setting up a real workspace to give me space to make/build and fix things
 I setup a mini one a few weeks ago but am going to expand it by knocking down a wall
 !!
 That sounds fantastic
 You're gonna have your own makerspace?
 Mini Makerspace
 I just need room to work on projects
 Can more than one person work in it at a time?
 Sounds like a fun gathering point
 Yes, while it wont be massive, there is room for more than one
 sweet~
 So I am going to be tearing down the wall late this week and do painting over the weekend
 Awesome :)
 I am going to tile early next year
 I also got TONS of filament - at least 20 rolls on hand
 holy cow
 I have 13 rolls of white, 6 rolls of black, 1 roll of clear, 2 rolls of red, 1 roll of brown and 1 roll of wood
 I have a few partial rolls of red, steel, carbon fiber , white and black
 Wait, robots?
 @Ivoriesablaze, Yes, Judd posted the link to the pre-order a few months back
 Ah
 http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2016/9/20/12986234/biggest-sd-card-1-terabyte-sandisk


[00:57] <imac_> valorie: Sorry, what was that General chat channel again for here
[01:28] <valorie> imac_: do you mean #kubuntu-offtopic ?
[01:41] <imac_> valorie: yes< thanks :)
[01:42] <imac_> Had it set up on my Laptop but not my Deaktop
[01:42] <valorie> yw
[03:01] <Anti-Pizza> Hello! I'm trying to figure out why system path to my additional HDDs changed from /username/media/ to /media/username.
[03:02] <Anti-Pizza> Was there an update on that or something?
[03:03] <valorie> hmmm, it's been media/username as long as I remember
[03:05] <Anti-Pizza> Disregard. It was.
[03:05] <Anti-Pizza> Thanks for the answer, @valorie
[03:06] <valorie> any time
[05:16] <pepee> a while ago, an update of either kubuntu or chromium added a "feature" where KDE shows some media controls for chromium. anyone knows how to disable this?
[05:54] <Rupigwara> hello guys. i'm stuck in the Kubuntu's live version. i had just discoveried that my pen drive is at some point corrupt, preventing me from finishing the OS instalation. i wish there would be a way to install linux once for all ;_;
[05:56] <valorie> I've just upgraded for years
[05:59] <valorie> although of course as a tester I do lots of installs as well
[05:59] <valorie> usually in VMs though
[05:59] <valorie> which doesn't help, of course
[05:59] <valorie> can you get to a VT?
[06:00] <valorie> control+alt+f2, 3, 4, etc.
[06:00] <Rupigwara> yes i can
[06:00] <Rupigwara> just tested
[06:00] <valorie> if so you may be able to continue there in the terminal
[06:01] <valorie> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade to start
[06:01] <Rupigwara> thanks for the helping i will do that and back here to tell
[06:02] <valorie> and when that's done sudo do-release-upgrade
[06:03] <Rupigwara> when i try to login there asks a login and a password, but since i didnt created one i dont know what to do
[06:04] <Rupigwara> im logged as kubuntu@kubuntu
[06:04] <valorie> does just hitting return work?
[06:04] <Rupigwara> let me check
[06:04] <Rupigwara> nope. it just asks me the login again
[06:05] <valorie> if you haven't even created a password yet, I would just remove the thumbdrive and reboot
[06:05] <valorie> it means nothing has really been started
[06:06] <Rupigwara> i did!
[06:06] <Rupigwara> i just entered login: kubuntu and pass: (nothing)
[06:08] <valorie> ah
[06:08] <valorie> but if that doesn't work in your terminal, your computer doesn't "know" it
[06:08] <valorie> because it hasn't been made to happen
[06:09] <Rupigwara> oh
[06:11] <valorie> I'm not the world's biggest expert
[06:12] <Rupigwara> its true, i can't create new packages
[06:12] <Rupigwara> x.x
[06:13] <valorie> what I would do is find a new thumbdrive and start over
[06:15] <Rupigwara> i will try that. thanks
[08:58] <gyl> hello
[08:59] <gyl> is it work?
[11:13] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:18] <Blake337> Hello
[14:21] <user|70382> how i can remaster kubuntu 19.04 to my live iso ?
[17:14] <sravan> Hiiii
[19:42] <pragomer> hi. I am running kubuntu 19.04. I played arround with the panels, deleted the default panel, etc... then wanted to return to default and added the "plasma default panel". but now opening the menu with super key does not work anymore.
[19:42] <pragomer> any tips for me?
[19:46] <diogenes_> pragomer, start with a new user.
[19:47] <pragomer> diogenes_: really.. is this SO serious??
[19:48] <diogenes_> pragomer, if everything works with a new user then the problem most ikely is in your .config folder so that's how you narrow down the promlem.
[19:48] <pragomer> ok, I see... will rename my config completly and see what works.
[19:48] <pragomer> thank you
[19:49] <diogenes_> better do it in VT
[19:49] <diogenes_> out of X
[19:49] <pragomer> ok, you are right. will do it in tty
[20:07] <biowep> Can someone please help me set up the environment so that it is CLI friendly. I can build everithing with kdesrc-build, but I can't open projects with Qt Creator. I misses ECM, After setting -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=~/kde, make, make install, I have ~/kde/share/ECM. I exporting that to CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH and made a step forward. Now It misses libkgapi
[20:08] <biowep> It ma go like this a lot, How can I not only build but also install and set the appropriate environment variables in an automatic fashion?
[20:14] <valorie> biowep: in deb/ubuntu you can sudo apt build-dep packagename
[20:14] <valorie> or close to that
[20:15] <valorie> there might be close in other distros


[00:00] <bluesabre> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[00:00] <bluesabre> :)
[00:00] <Unit193> distro-info -c --supported --days=eol  is easier. :P
[00:01] <bluesabre> neat
[00:01] <bluesabre> didn't know that command
[00:01] <bluesabre> you should file a bug report
[00:01] <bluesabre> ;)
[00:02] <Unit193> Mhmm, I'll get right on that.
[00:03] <Unit193> 12.10,Quantal Quetzal,quantal,2012-04-26,2012-10-18,2014-04-18  well that's weird.
[00:15] <bluesabre> wowz
[00:15] <bluesabre> a
[00:15] <bluesabre> unity runs okay in virtualbox
[00:15] <bluesabre> when it switches to unity-locker
[00:16] <bluesabre> then it comes to a horrible crawl
[00:16] <bluesabre> I thought my vm was dead
[00:18] <Unit193> bluesabre: How is it atop mir?
[00:18] <bluesabre> haven't tried it with mir yet
[00:19] <bluesabre> probably not good, since I don't think vbox gfx drivers support mir yet
[00:19] <Unit193> I'd try it, tried wayland, but no intention to try unity. :P
[00:19] <Unit193> Right, they don't.
[00:20] <bluesabre> personally I think mir might end up being a better solution
[00:21] <bluesabre> primarily because wayland is being developed alongside gnome
[00:21] <bluesabre> but, nobody can really say at this point
[01:44] <bluesabre> my favorite commit this month. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~menulibre-dev/menulibre/master/revision/207
[06:12] <ochosi> bluesabre: that works!
[06:12] <ochosi> hey elfy
[06:12] <elfy> hi ochosi
[06:12] <ochosi> have time for a quick test?
[06:12] <ochosi> lid-close bug
[06:13] <elfy> not atm - sorry - too early lol
[06:14] <ochosi> hehe, ok
[06:14] <elfy> laptop's in little one's room - she's not awake yet
[06:15] <ochosi> i'm writing down the testcase now anyway
[06:15] <elfy> and I'm waking up still :)
[06:15] <ochosi> me too :)
[06:15] <ochosi> but as i gotta work the rest of the day, i wanted to get something done here too
[06:15] <elfy> ok cool - link it here - then as soon as I can I'll do it
[06:15] <elfy> yep understood
[06:17] <ochosi> elfy: http://dpaste.com/2X51WV1/
[06:17] <ochosi> as i'm the only one who tested this successfully so far, i wanted to wait at least until you tested it before we post that in the bugreport
[06:17] <ochosi> however, if it works for you, you could just copy-paste it there
[06:18] <elfy> yep - bookmarked
[06:18] <ochosi> (with a nice "hello everyone, we finally have a patch" intro)
[06:18] <elfy> :p
[06:54] <ochosi> hf everyone, bbl
[12:11] <elfy> bluesabre: nice to be kept in the loop over what needs testing and when
[12:11] <elfy> communication here is awesome
[12:24] <ochosi> elfy: just a quick question, have you been able to test the lid-fix?
[12:30] <ochosi> i asked a friend and it worked fine, so i at least have 3 positive test-results for it now (including the two ppl who worked on the patch)
[15:02] <elfy> ochosi: I've got in properly from work now - will check
[15:04] <slickymasterWork> elfy, do you have a few minutes to discuss MenuLibre testcase?
[15:04] <elfy> in a bit
[15:05] <slickymasterWork> I'll wait
[15:05] <elfy> though tbh I'm grrrrr about menulibre testing atm
[15:06] <slickymasterWork> there's something that IMO is wrong in that test
[15:06] <elfy> well - I ran through it yesterday - it all works
[15:07] <slickymasterWork> did you manage to be sucessfully with steps 19-20?
[15:08] <elfy> whatever steps 19-20 are I must have as it all worked
[15:09] <slickymasterWork> elfy,  19 - In Menu Editor - hover over launcher title and click and 20 - Enter new name for launcher and press enter
[15:09] <elfy> yep
[15:09] <elfy> worked
[15:10] <slickymasterWork> well, that's strange because I'm unable to achieve it in two distinct boxes
[15:11] <slickymasterWork> one with today's daily and another fully updated that been being upgraded since 12.04
[15:11] <elfy> I've just done it twice here
[15:12] <slickymasterWork> what is the menulibre installed version you have?
[15:12] <elfy> 2.0.3
[15:14] <qwebirc591238> elfy I have 2.0.3-1 installed
[15:17] <elfy> ochosi: confirm that ppa works here - also it stops it rebooting with a really dim screen.
[15:17] <elfy> so that's \o/ from me
[15:29] <elfy> ochosi: posted in bug with the details - added ppa-purge command too
[15:30] <slickymasterWork> sorry elfy
[15:30] <elfy> :)
[15:30] <slickymasterWork> lost connectivity (once again)
[15:30] <elfy> yep
[15:30] <slickymasterWork> can you tell me once once again what's installed version?
[15:31] <elfy> 2.0.3
[15:31] <slickymasterWork> strange, that's mine's also
[15:31] <slickymasterWork> on both boxes
[15:31] <elfy> at least that what it reports
[15:31] <slickymasterWork> mine are both 2.0.3-1
[15:32] <slickymasterWork> going to have to poke around to figure it out
[15:32] <elfy> you can do it 2 ways - hover over title, click - write - enter or click the button to the right of the title box
[15:32] <slickymasterWork> tried both ways, no dice
[15:32] <elfy> uh oh
[15:32] <elfy> now what's up
[15:33]  * elfy waits for upgrade to finish
[15:34] <elfy> ii  menulibre      2.0.3-1
[15:34] <slickymasterWork> those are also mine's
[15:39] <elfy> I recorded me doing it - any idea where I could post that for you to get?
[15:45] <slickymasterWork> nah, nevermind
[15:45] <slickymasterWork> I'll reinstall it
[15:47] <elfy> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j31ys0zrmefxu57/out.ogv
[16:24] <elfy> !team
[16:25] <elfy> assistive tech is currently part of a testcase for the settings manager for some reason - propose to remove that - question is do we need to test that anyway - we'd not be able to do anything anyway if there is a problem I guess
[16:26] <lderan> aye
[16:26] <slickymasterWork> elfy, thanks for that link, but I ended up reinstalling it and now it's working
[16:26] <slickymasterWork> no clue what could have been the culprit
[16:27] <GridCube> i have no idea elfy, but i guess that if we can not do anything about something we better don't make ourselfs responsible of that
[16:30] <elfy> slickymasterWork: ok - cheers
[16:30] <elfy> anyone with access to utopic atm - alt+f2 - xfce4-term - does terminal show in the list
[16:31] <elfy> GridCube: that's my thinking - we can always create a test and make it optional
[16:31] <elfy> but I think (need to check) that ubuntu tests this stuff with autopilot
[16:31] <pleia2> GridCube: +1
[16:32] <elfy> o/ pleia2
[16:32] <pleia2> g'day elfy
[16:33] <slickymasterWork> elfy: alt+f2 and xfce4-term does show up in the list
[16:33] <slickymasterWork> hi pleia2
[16:35] <elfy> slickymasterWork: mmm - not seeing that on this machine nor a vm
[16:35] <pleia2> hey slickymaster :)
[16:57] <elfy> ochosi: got another +1 to that fix now via the bug report
[19:19] <elfy> ochosi: what you going to do about a meeting - we need to get one soon I guess - things like the m/l and PPA at least need to be sorted
[22:31] <bluesabre> sorry about that elfy/forestpiskie, was looking for some ad hoc testing and wanted to get a request out before I ran out the door this morning
[23:03] <brainwash> bluesabre: can we make lightdm's dependency on the indicator libs optional?
[23:04] <bluesabre> ... I thought it was optional
[23:04] <bluesabre> since it works in not-ubuntu
[23:04] <bluesabre> you have to compile specifically with --enable-indicator-services
[23:05] <brainwash> mmmmh, I missed some things
[23:05] <brainwash> not lightdm, but lightdm-gtk-greeter
[23:05] <brainwash> in ubuntu
[23:05] <bluesabre> right
[23:06] <brainwash> the ubuntu package :)
[23:06] <bluesabre> that's how its compiled, you don't have to include indicators in your config
[23:06] <brainwash> I know that
[23:06] <bluesabre> /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf
[23:07] <bluesabre> so, it is optional, xubuntu ships with indicators enabled
[23:07] <bluesabre> anyway, gotta run, family here
[23:07] <bluesabre> bbl
[23:08] <brainwash> I'll rebuild the package locally then, guess no one else is bothered by the indicator libs
[23:11] <brainwash> (if one does not use the unity indicators)
[23:13] <ali1234> what's the problem here?
[23:13] <brainwash> there is none
[23:15] <brainwash> greeter depends on libido3-0.1-0 and libindicator3-7, I would like to move the to recommends
[23:16] <ali1234> well, they have to be compiled in afaik
[23:17] <ali1234> so we can't make them recommends... the greeter will just fail to run if they're not installed
[23:17] <brainwash> right
[23:18] <brainwash> can we add a runtime detection?
[23:18] <ali1234> not easily
[23:19] <brainwash> it's not a problem, I'm just curious


[00:37] <kc2bez> @tsimonq2 let me know when you are back, I have some thoughts re: your message earlier.
[00:52] <krytarik> !depends compton-conf
[00:55] <krytarik> !depends lxqt-qtplugin
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> @tsimonq2 let me know when you are back, I have some thoughts re: your …], Hey
[02:31] <kc2bez> Heyo.
[02:31] <kc2bez> I think it is 2 different issues.
 What's your theory? :)
[02:32] <kc2bez> libfm-qt6 doesn't get installed to replace libfm-qt5
[02:33] <kc2bez> That is part 1 ^
[02:34] <kc2bez> For me lximage-qt and pcmanfm-qt are held because of it.
 ok I am installing libfm-qt6 manually and seeing what this fixes /breaks?
[02:36] <kc2bez> the compton-conf thing is a bit of a spiral for me.
 ok
[02:36] <kc2bez> I tried it in a VM and it worked the best I can tell lynorian
[02:37] <lynorian> trying this and looks like compton-conf will be held back
[02:38] <kc2bez> right. It solved the pcmanfm and lximage issue.
[02:54] <lynorian> right this eems to solve it
[03:01] <kc2bez> If I remove  compton-conf-l10n   compton-conf will update
[03:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLXQTQTPLUGINPACKAGINGbf0ac0ec7bbb: Recommend libfm-qt6 instead.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTQTPLUGINPACKAGINGbf0ac0ec7bbb
[03:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLXQTQTPLUGINPACKAGING3c02201b2ce3: Upload to Disco.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTQTPLUGINPACKAGING3c02201b2ce3
[03:04] <kc2bez> Here is where the spiral begins for me. Can you recommend and replace the same package?
[03:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCOMPTONCONFPACKAGING9f7e17c1a14e: Don't recommend compton-conf-l10n.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCOMPTONCONFPACKAGING9f7e17c1a14e
[03:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCOMPTONCONFPACKAGING38ec94dfebbb: Upload to Disco.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCOMPTONCONFPACKAGING38ec94dfebbb
[03:06] <tsimonq2> You can normally, but since the ISO builder treats recommends as depends, no.
[03:07] <kc2bez> It makes my mind go in a bit of a circle.
[03:07] <tsimonq2> Understandably. :)
[03:07] <tsimonq2> I'll trigger an ISO build in an hour or two.
[03:08] <kc2bez> sounds good, I will test it in the morning.
[03:08] <tsimonq2> Thanks!
[03:09] <kc2bez> No problem, you did all the work. :)
[03:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf0edc380f48b: Add spacer non-default app to lxqt-panel] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf0edc380f48b
[03:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2bc595c8231e: Add configuration for spacer on panel] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2bc595c8231e
[03:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6f97b84099bc: Style Checkbox and fix capitalization] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6f97b84099bc
[04:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL3d30e2abc159: style update the window contents while resizing] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL3d30e2abc159
[04:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf21e19436300: Add openbox_settings markup for guilabels] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf21e19436300
[04:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL45b09ec77f32: Add switch desktop time styling and improvements] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL45b09ec77f32
[04:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL32b61fcd040d: Add information dialog position field] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL32b61fcd040d
[12:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T141: Native nm-tray connection editor] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T141#3571
 wxl: you pointed an issue with lxqt-sudo, maybe ir's already solved with v0.14. At least my conf file of featherpad doesn't get own by root now when using lxqt-sudo.
 @HMollerCl I think there are a few tasks that will be solved by the new version. It still didn't update right for me this morning though @tsimonq2
 there are some packages that upgrade and some not. pcmanfm-qt and featherpad no, lxqt-sudo yes.
 hmoller@hmoller-pc:~$ apt list pcmanfm-qt ... Listing... Done ... pcmanfm-qt/disco 0.14.0-0ubuntu2 amd64 [upgradable from: 0.13.0-2ubuntu2] ... pcmanfm-qt/disco 0.14.0-0ubuntu2 i386 ... hmoller@hmoller-pc:~$ apt list lxqt-sudo ... Listing... Done ... lxqt-sudo/disco,now 0.14.0-0ubuntu1 amd64 [installed] ... lxqt-sudo/disco 0.14.0-0u
 Yeah, we went through some of that yesterday, you would have to scroll up here.^^
 ok, good
 I'm not sure it is resolved yet, unless it hasn't landed, I haven't had time to check on that.
[18:32] <lynorian> compton-conf-l10n for some reason did not want to install leaving compton-conf to keep old libfm-qt5 version which was needed for pcmanfm-qt and lximage-qt
[20:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL78f5fbfa2ff9: Add open in terminal to directory tree] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL78f5fbfa2ff9
[20:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL8aa39dc7fced: Improve execute file desktop dialog] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL8aa39dc7fced
[20:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALdfce6c3ffe29: Add go back/forward via menu] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALdfce6c3ffe29
[20:32] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL77106e3486f2: Improve select multiple files sentence] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL77106e3486f2
[20:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL358e2672ba76: Add pcmanfm-qt return to home folder] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL358e2672ba76
 Help ... How to instal wine in lubuntu
[23:39] <wxl> this is more of a support question, so i'd point you to the support channnel. that said:
[23:39] <wxl> !wine
 Thanks men
[23:42] <wxl> not all of us are but you're welcome
 (Photo, 648x309) https://i.imgur.com/1fKrkhQ.jpg Hmm. Got this back on the daily.
 Uffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
 ok
 Thanks
[23:57] <wxl> @tsimonq2 i thought SOMEONE tested this but i guess not. or they did and didn't mark it. now what? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1786602


[09:39] <Zubin-kubuntu> How to install 32bit firefox in a 64 bit system: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435
[09:40] <Zubin-kubuntu> 32bit anything in a 64 bit environment: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[09:40] <jason10> 64 bit environment..  is that for the 64 processor?  i believe im a x86      does that matter?
[09:42] <Zubin-kubuntu> x86_64 is a 64bit system
[09:42] <Zubin-kubuntu> 2.6.15-28-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu May 10 09:45:43 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux - looks like a 32-bit system is running
[09:43] <jason10> ok.  i dont know what that means really  ...   :)
[09:44] <navets> how do i add packages?
[09:44] <Zubin-kubuntu> well you're running a 32-bit operating system...really its fine.  Theres no real benefit running a 64-bit system on your desktop.  The only place you'd find a performance benefit would be Video Conversion...
[09:44] <navets> or dependicies
[09:44] <jason10> right on
[09:45] <jason10> ok, ill play with those links and see what i can make happen..
[09:45] <Zubin-kubuntu> for servers its a slightly different story...but desktop...i stopped using a 64 bit desktop and went back to 32-bit...
[09:45] <jason10> but now i guess ill want to remove the firefox that i managed to install to /home/jason10/.mozilla/firefox
[09:46] <jason10> is there a 'proper' way to do that?  or do i just delete the directory
[09:46] <Zubin-kubuntu> actually you don't need to follow those links...it looks like you are already running a 32-bit OS
[09:46] <jason10> oh
[09:50] <ubuntu_> hallo
[09:50] <jason10> hi
[09:50] <Zubin-kubuntu> when you typed in 'uname -a' you got: 2.6.15-28-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu May 10 09:45:43 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:50] <Zubin-kubuntu> correct?
[09:50] <jason10> correct.
[09:50] <Zubin-kubuntu> if so, then you are already running a 32-bit operating system
[09:50] <logixoul> hey. my amarok's default toolbar visualisation doesn't follow the colorscheme, it always stays blue. any fix?
[09:50] <jason10> and those links were for forcing a 32bit package into a 64 bit computer
[09:50] <jason10> that means i want packages for a 32bit system?
[09:52] <KungPowah> Hi guys.. anyone who knows how to install nvidia driver (7900GT) on kubuntu ?
[09:52] <logixoul> KungPowah: use adept-manager
[09:53] <KungPowah> do i type that in console ?
[09:53] <KungPowah> got it
[09:57] <swhalen> Hello
[09:58] <swhalen> can someone help me with compiz?
[09:59] <OutoLumo> swhalen, sorry... My driver isn't supported :-(
[09:59] <jason10> hm
[09:59] <jason10> ok.
[09:59] <jason10> thanks for the help
[09:59] <jason10> ill keep working on it
[09:59] <jason10> :)
[09:59] <jason10> gg
[10:02] <soulrider> !effects
[10:02] <ubotu> For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[10:04] <setttest> I could use some help configuring my bootloader to automatically have the setting "set vga to 1280x1024 32 bit" (the one you set by using f4 on the install disk) - because my monitor get messed up if I don't do it. anyone able to help me?
[10:04] <PhinnFort> how can i turn of automatic mounting of my encrypted volumes at boot up
[10:04] <mattsqz> wow
[10:04] <PhinnFort> ?
[10:04] <mattsqz> what monitor are you using
[10:05] <setttest> ViewSonic 19"
[10:05] <setttest> Burned the cd twice to make sure it wasn't a defective cd. It just says "no signal" at all other resolutions right after the kernel is loaded
[10:06] <setttest> came in with "recovery mode" or what it was named in the bootloader. But I would like to boot the regular one and not be root all the time ... =)
[10:06] <chx> if I press numpad 5 i get the same menu as if i would have pressed the right mouse button. how can i get out of this<
[10:06] <chx> ?
[10:07] <setttest> using the 64-bit version. not sure if that has anything to do with it. anyways. I just need help adding that syntax into the bootloader and all is good =)
[10:08] <mattsqz> grub?
[10:08] <setttest> yes
[10:08] <PhinnFort> setttest: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:08] <PhinnFort> setttest: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:09] <setttest> PhinnFort: thanks a million. Now do you know what to add in here? I'm very sorry for not knowing it myself
[10:10] <PhinnFort> setttest: hang on a sec, need to refresh my knowledge of debianish(ubuntuish) menu.lst's
[10:10] <PhinnFort> ;)
[10:10] <setttest> thanks :)
[10:10] <swhalen> can someone help me with ati and cmompiz
[10:11] <swhalen> compiz*
[10:11] <Karti> jhutchins_lt: Many thanks for earlier, I went for GanttProject so jus about to check it with a download..
[10:11] <emonkey-f> !compiz
[10:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:12] <PhinnFort> !compiz | swhalen
[10:12] <ubotu> swhalen: please see above
[10:12] <PhinnFort> :P
[10:12] <Silent_G> will it make a difference if i use grub.conf instead of menu,1st  ?
[10:13] <PhinnFort> Silent_G: grub.conf is supposed to just be a symlink to menu.lst
[10:13] <PhinnFort> afaik
[10:13] <Silent_G> uh
[10:13] <Silent_G> ok
[10:13] <Silent_G> so
[10:13] <Silent_G> will grub read title=Kubuntu Linux
[10:13] <Silent_G> for example
[10:13] <PhinnFort> Silent_G: try
[10:13] <Silent_G> cause menu.1st its written different from others
[10:13] <Silent_G> :/
[10:13] <Silent_G> ok
[10:13] <Silent_G> i'll give it a try
[10:13] <glyph_> hello
[10:13] <PhinnFort> setttest: I can't for 1280x1024x32, only x24
[10:14] <setttest> will it make any difference? I only saw 16 and 32 bit in the "F4 menu". but I guess maybe 32 is x24 ?
[10:14] <glyph_> got a small problem my kde pannel dissapered and i will not load back up is there anyway to get it back?
[10:14] <setttest> More than happy for the command though :)
[10:15] <PhinnFort> setttest: do you have the file open?
[10:15] <setttest> yes
[10:15] <Boje> geht in die heia, gn8 (amsg)
[10:15] <PhinnFort> setttest: look for a line that starts with #defoptions
[10:15] <PhinnFort> *# defoptions=blahblah
[10:15] <PhinnFort> setttest: at the end of that line, add "vga=0x318"
[10:17] <emonkey> #amarok.de
[10:17] <emonkey> ups
[10:17] <emonkey> sorry
[10:18] <setttest> right above #End default options ?
[10:18] <PhinnFort> setttest: I don't think so... I have a line that says "# defoptions=quiet splash rootflags=data=writeback"
[10:19] <setttest> mine says "# defoptions=quiet splash vga=0x318" (I added the vga= thing). Should I uncomment it?
[10:19] <PhinnFort> no
[10:20] <PhinnFort> setttest: save the file and run "sudo update-grub" in a konsole
[10:20] <setttest> done
[10:20] <setttest> will try rebooting
[10:20] <setttest> thanks :)
[10:20] <PhinnFort> setttest: when that is finished, open up the file again with "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[10:20] <PhinnFort> just doublecheck first;)
[10:21] <PhinnFort> look after the line that begins with "kernel" after "## ## End Default Options ##"
[10:21] <setttest> it added the vga line to the "load kernel blabla" line :)
[10:21] <PhinnFort> the line should contain the vga=blah stuff
[10:21] <PhinnFort> :D
[10:21] <PhinnFort> all happy then
[10:21] <PhinnFort> now try a reboot
[10:21] <PhinnFort> :D
[10:21] <setttest> Everything is well. See you soon :)
[10:21] <PhinnFort> if all goes well
[10:21] <PhinnFort> :P
[10:26] <OutoLumo> Now that qt4.3 is released, will there be a backport to feisty?
[10:42] <trakinas> why ubuntu's grub menu.lst is so complicated? hehehehe
[10:43] <kadaz> can you get gl desktop to work in kde?
[10:43] <trakinas> gl?
[10:43] <trakinas> translate
[10:44] <trakinas> xgl you meant?
[10:44] <trakinas> beryl. :]
[10:44] <kadaz> in adept installer it says its gnome
[10:44] <kadaz> I downloaded some gl screensavers
[10:44] <trakinas> hmmm. you can. im pretty sure.
[10:45] <kadaz> I tried using them, but nothing displays
[10:45] <trakinas> AIGLX -- try this
[10:47] <kadaz> I did a few searches for xgl   a gl-based x server
[10:47] <kadaz> whats aiglx?
[10:47] <marco__> what is the library package to run mp3 with amarok?
[10:48] <kadaz> marco_ type mp3 in adept installer
[10:48] <set> Hey again. it worked perfectly. Thanks a lot PhinnFort :)
[10:48] <PhinnFort> good to hear
[10:48] <PhinnFort> :)
[10:48] <marco__> kadaz: yes there's 200000 library... I ain't going to install them all
[10:48] <kadaz> I got two of them  gstrreamer extra plugins
[10:48] <kadaz> that worked.
[10:48] <marco__> cool ty
[10:48] <PhinnFort> !info libxine-extracodecs | marco__
[10:48] <ubotu> marco__: libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, transitional package. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 38 kB, installed size 68 kB
[10:49] <PhinnFort> marco__: don't get the gstreamer plugins
[10:49] <kadaz> also I got xine too
[10:49] <PhinnFort> (silly)
[10:49] <set> what is the command to ask the bot for automatix?
[10:49] <kadaz> really, so you dont need both, ok
[10:49] <set> !info automatix
[10:49] <ubotu> Package automatix does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:49] <PhinnFort> afaik, there's nothing in kubuntu that uses gstreamer by default
[10:49] <trakinas> kadaz: is the graphic engine
[10:49] <marco__> PhinnFort: yeah I know it's running out of support
[10:49] <trakinas> this is for gentoo: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Beryl
[10:49] <PhinnFort> set: try just !
[10:49] <set> !automatix
[10:49] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:49] <trakinas> just for you to see you can have kde with beryl
[10:49] <set> hahaha that's a good one
[10:50] <kadaz> ok trackinas, do I then do I download this gl system for xserver?
[10:50] <set> !flash
[10:50] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:50] <trakinas> PhinnFort: i got the gstreamer plugins. in fact, i don use amarok anymore. =P
[10:50] <PhinnFort> trakinas: what do you use then?
[10:50] <trakinas> !aiglx
[10:50] <ubotu> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[10:50] <PhinnFort> trakinas: and how is it relevant, then;)
[10:50] <trakinas> PhinnFort: quodlibet
[10:51] <kadaz> is geforce fx better then geforce 3?
[10:51] <PhinnFort> "QUODLIBET Online Journal of Christian Theology and Philosophy"
[10:51] <PhinnFort> trakinas: wtf, GTK+ based?
[10:51] <PhinnFort> (must be crappy, then;))
[10:52] <set> You can't get flash in kubuntu 64-bit?
[10:52] <PhinnFort> sounds like a Juk ripoff, by the Wikipedia article
[10:52] <PhinnFort> set: it's a hassle
[10:52] <PhinnFort> set: rather just get Opera or Firefox 32-bit
[10:52] <PhinnFort> !nspluginwrapper
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nspluginwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <kadaz> phinnfort is there support for other media players with xine plugins??
[10:52] <kadaz> it was the only reason I didnt uninstall gstreamer
[10:52] <PhinnFort> kadaz: everything that uses xine to play media, will use the xine codecs
[10:53] <PhinnFort> libxine
[10:53] <trakinas> PhinnFort: yep. Im almost going back to xfce. kde eats a lot of resource.
[10:53] <PhinnFort> Amarok uses different engines to play music
[10:53] <carlos__> hi
[10:53] <trakinas> PhinnFort: i know. but it was getting on my nervers with some little things.
[10:53] <PhinnFort> trakinas: a full xfce desktop uses more than a full kde desktop, according to those who've tried it;)
[10:53] <kadaz> why is there a 104 processes ~!
[10:54] <trakinas> PhinnFort: i doubt.
[10:54] <PhinnFort> I used to use Juk, until I tried amarok on a Knoppix cd, and I was sold
[10:54] <PhinnFort> trakinas: I will dig up the article for oyu
[10:54] <trakinas> PhinnFort: hehe
[10:54] <PhinnFort> :P
[10:54] <kadaz> typically in win its 27 max.
[10:54] <trakinas> PhinnFort: kde only eats 400mb here
[10:54] <trakinas> NOTHING else running.
[10:54] <PhinnFort> trakinas: from 2006, but still: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/
[10:54] <PhinnFort> trakinas: that's because KDE uses shared libs extensively
[10:55] <PhinnFort> trakinas: if you open up a tenfold more apps, it still won't use much more
[10:55] <PhinnFort> kadaz: one word: factorization
[10:55] <set> can someone point me to documentation on how to install 32-bit software?
[10:55] <kadaz> !factorization
[10:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about factorization - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <kadaz> LOL
[10:55] <PhinnFort> kadaz: you know the unix mantra?
[10:55] <kadaz> how about fastidious !
[10:55] <PhinnFort> do one thing, and do it well
[10:55] <CM_Jamie> Hail, FSHero. :)
[10:55] <trakinas> PhinnFort: but there's also this font-icon thing that kde keeps separating them... like "this-an-ico" /n "n" --. the n is in another line
[10:55] <kadaz> nope
[10:56] <kadaz> but I can read
[10:56] <PhinnFort> trakinas: I think you can customize it
[10:56] <PhinnFort> trakinas: ask in #kde
[10:56] <trakinas> PhinnFort: i tried.
[10:56] <PhinnFort> kadaz: [22:58]  <PhinnFort> do one thing, and do it well
[10:56] <trakinas> i will go there in a near future
[10:56] <PhinnFort> ;)
[10:56] <trakinas> but i still prefer quodlibet. =P
[10:57] <PhinnFort> trakinas: well, freedom of choice;)
[10:57] <kadaz> like it !
[10:57] <trakinas> yep! :]
[10:57] <PhinnFort> can't force you to use the superior solution
[10:57] <PhinnFort> :P
[10:57] <PhinnFort> kadaz: rather than having one huge crap running, you have several small ones cooperating
[10:57] <PhinnFort> and with a highly optimized kernel, like the linux kernel, the overhead is minimal
[10:57] <kadaz> half of mem is gone though.  500 out 1 gig, this norm?
[10:57] <trakinas> haha! i was going to install listen, but you need half gnome to do so. lol
[10:58] <PhinnFort> kadaz: yes;)
[10:58] <PhinnFort> trakinas: the dark side of pre-compiled packages;)
[10:58] <trakinas> =P
[10:58] <trakinas> kadaz: if you going to install beryl, use THEIR packager
[10:59] <PhinnFort> kadaz: the Linux kernel always try to use as much ram as possible, to cache disk readings, the swap file, etc.
[10:59] <kadaz> I  tried  beryl, but even with all features off...  its needs a superior card to handle it.
[10:59] <PhinnFort> kadaz: tried compiz?
[11:00] <user_> hello
[11:00] <kadaz> !compiz
[11:00] <trakinas> PhinnFort: beryl is a compiz forl
[11:00] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:00] <user_> how is
[11:00] <trakinas> *fork
[11:00] <trakinas> user_: hi
[11:00] <trakinas> i can even run n64 emulator here. =(
[11:01] <trakinas> *cat
[11:01] <trakinas> **cant
[11:01] <set> !mp3
[11:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:04] <CM_Jamie> Is there a way of telling when someone last typed something?
[11:05] <trakinas> PhinnFort: intersting article!
[11:05] <trakinas> CM_Jamie: if the bot has a script for it.
[11:06] <kadaz> how do I diable acpi on k permently
[11:06] <kadaz> I need two moniters to boot into K
[11:06] <kadaz> I meant, I use
[11:06] <trakinas> PhinnFort: but my personal taste is most for gnome/gtk+  so far.
[11:07] <CM_Jamie> Ah ok. Thanks.
[11:07] <CM_Jamie> Shame not here then. :P
[11:08] <trakinas> google is your friend: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[11:09] <KungPowah> Hi guys... I have installed emerald and beryl.. The problem is, when i run beryl i have no panels over my windows :S Any idea what to do ?
[11:10] <trakinas> KungPowah: have you installed beryl through adept/apt or beryl own deb?
[11:11] <trakinas> PhinnFort: 477MB this is too much for someone with only 512mb...
[11:11] <KungPowah> Thrue adept
[11:12] <trakinas> KungPowah: this is possible what is causing the troubles.
[11:12] <trakinas> my friend had problems over adept, but worked fine with the beryl deb
[11:12] <nzk> Is there a GTK app that lets you track the amount of time you have been doing a task by clicking start and stop?
[11:13] <KungPowah> hmm okay
[11:14] <KungPowah> So i need to uninstall it in adept an then install it with beryl deb ?
[11:14] <trakinas> KungPowah: sure! :]
[11:14] <trakinas> nzk: i dont have any clue.
[11:14] <nzk> I know there was one
[11:14] <nzk> I just forgot the name
[11:15] <trakinas> gnomefiles.org
[11:16] <BluesKaj> nzk, Ksystemlog ?
[11:16] <thomas_> hi
[11:16] <nzk> BluesKaj, I meant like if I want to know how much time I've been doing yard work
[11:16] <Ejdesgaard> i have a problem with beryl/emerald
[11:16] <erichj> how do you change the KDM theme if there is no admin button to click?
[11:17] <BluesKaj> oh like i was today :) ...dunno, I just use my watch
[11:17] <nzk> But if I want to do it on my computer...
[11:17] <nzk> I need to track the amount of time I study for my exams
[11:18] <nzk> Karm
[11:18] <Ejdesgaard> if i start beryl-manager in console, and load beryl, then the decorator doesn't load, and when i force it to reload i get the folowing error: beryl: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32
[11:18] <nzk> I knew there was one
[11:18] <kadaz> !xgl
[11:18] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:18] <BluesKaj> try searching on google-linux, nzk
[11:18] <nzk> The name is Karm
[11:18] <nzk> I found it :|
[11:18] <BluesKaj> no matter i won't use it anyway :)
[11:19] <BluesKaj> <<--- retired
[11:19] <kadaz> how do I know if xgl is installed?
[11:19] <nzk> You really misunderstand context
[11:19] <nzk> kadaz, is your computer running as if it has a 4086?
[11:20] <kadaz> ?
[11:20] <trakinas> erichj: in kdm folder, i guess
[11:20] <kadaz> is that MPH?
[11:20] <BluesKaj> kadaz in the terminal 'xglinfo'
[11:20] <nzk> kadaz, ...
[11:20] <set> I fixed flash :)
[11:21] <kadaz> -su: xglinfo: command not found
[11:21] <BluesKaj> sorry kadaz , glxinfo
[11:21] <kadaz> Error: unable to open display (null)
[11:22] <nzk> kadaz, Now we've got it licked
[11:22] <nzk> You don't have a monitor
[11:22] <kadaz> I got two moniters :d
[11:22] <nzk> Not according to your shell.
[11:23] <kadaz> well the shell needs to be cracked and find a lookie
[11:23] <rodrigo_> ok guys this software can be installed in kubuntu http://ktoon.toonka.com/?
[11:25] <kadaz> xgl is xserver with opengl?
[11:26] <trakinas> kadaz: yes. if im not wrong
[11:26] <trakinas> rodrigo_: if you fulfill it requireaments, yes.
[11:26] <rodrigo_> requirements?
[11:26] <steveire> I've used usermod -a -G admin mike to add mike to admin. How do I remove mike from the admin group?
[11:26] <trakinas> rodrigo_: yes
[11:27] <trakinas> rodrigo_: qt 4.1.4 or qt 4.2
[11:27] <rodrigo_> qt?
[11:27] <trakinas> rodrigo_: and compile from source or use the binary. dont use the deb if you arent using ubutu 6
[11:28] <trakinas> rodrigo_: yes. qt. the graphic library for jde
[11:28] <trakinas> *kde
[11:28] <rodrigo_> ooooh
[11:28] <rodrigo_> Im using the latest version of kubuntu
[11:28] <trakinas> rodrigo_: are you using feisty faw?
[11:28] <trakinas> if yes, then everything is okay
[11:28] <rodrigo_> feisty faw?
[11:29] <rodrigo_> the apt installer?
[11:29] <trakinas> yes. *ubuntu 7.o
[11:29] <rodrigo_> yes
[11:29] <trakinas> nops, the ubuntu version
[11:29] <trakinas> so, go for it
[11:29] <rodrigo_> How do I install it?
[11:29] <rodrigo_> just copy paste the commands in the console?
[11:30] <kadaz> do I restart xserver once compiz is started?
[11:30] <kadaz> I meant installed
[11:30] <trakinas> kadaz: you have to start compiz if it isnt started automaticaly
[11:30] <trakinas> ah
[11:30] <trakinas> yes
[11:30] <trakinas> rodrigo_: you can use the binary or the source code
[11:30] <trakinas> https://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2960
[11:30] <kadaz> can I do that without losing my session
[11:31] <trakinas> im not sure if it is safe to use 6.0 Ubuntu packages on feisty faw
[11:31] <rodrigo_> Im neawby how do I do that?
[11:31] <trakinas> kadaz: no.
[11:31] <kadaz> k
[11:31] <trakinas> rodrigo_: it probably has instructions inside the package.
[11:31] <trakinas> rodrigo_: one sec
[11:31] <rodrigo_> yep thanks trakinas
[11:31] <trakinas> rodrigo_: #kubuntu-br
[11:32] <kadaz> trackinas how do I disable acpi perm on K
[11:32] <trakinas> kadaz: disable it on the bios
[11:32] <trakinas> !portuguese
[11:32] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[11:33] <kadaz> any linux distro's free up on bootup with nv card as 1select
[11:33] <kadaz> all power options are turned off in bios
[11:33] <trakinas> rodrigo_: access #ubuntu-br (/j ubuntu-br)
[11:33] <kadaz> I meant freeze up
[11:34] <trakinas> kadaz: well, you can on ubuntu go to system admin and disable acpi start-up
[11:35] <kadaz> wheres that,   system settings/advanced?
[11:36] <kadaz> found it
[11:36] <trakinas> kadaz: :] ]
[11:36] <ubuntuNoobus> does anyone know about running or installing ipodlinux?
[11:37] <trakinas> ubuntuNoobus: look on ipodlinux wiki
[11:37] <kadaz> brb
[11:37] <trakinas> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Main_Page
[11:38] <ubuntuNoobus> iu've been on, have it running on my 30gb photo without any problems but having problems installaing to my 80gb vid needed to talk to someone about it but everyone on the ipodlinux channel is dead i think
[11:40] <drew> can anyone help me with Thunderbird 2.0 and kubuntu?
[11:41] <trakinas> i dont even have a ipod.
[11:41] <trakinas> =(
[11:41] <ubuntuNoobus> anyway i have a problem with my kubuntu installation, i installed a dual booting system between kubuntu/ windows xp and it worked great one daym but the next day it kept coming up that the network manager had failed and that was the end of that?
[11:41] <crimsun> you're not missing anything, trakinas.
[11:41] <ubuntuNoobus> i dunno i couldn't live without mine
[11:42] <trakinas> crimsun: im thinking about buying an iAudio though
[11:42] <crimsun> this iPod is utter jun
[11:42] <crimsun> k
[11:45] <t1n0m3n> Hi, I need help using Microsoft Certificates on kubuntu for wireless connectivity using WPA/TLS.  I am using knetworkmanager
[11:46] <t1n0m3n> Cisco ACS says that I am not using TLS even though I have TLS checked in KNetworkmanager
[11:49] <t1n0m3n> anyone alive?
[11:49] <trakinas> yep
[11:49] <trakinas> but i cant help
[11:49] <t1n0m3n> kk, thanks
[11:49] <akshay> hey room
[11:50] <t1n0m3n> hi
[11:50] <FSHero> HaSH
[11:50] <CM_Jamie> Eh??
[11:50] <FSHero> Woah... sorry for typing garbage.
[11:51] <t1n0m3n> ok, well, I guess I will continue to hammer on this TLS issue with google then.  Thanks
[11:52] <FSHero> CM_Jamie: PM me pls
[11:52] <CM_Jamie> Google is indeed one's friend. :D
[11:54] <FSHero> CM_Jamie: I'm off. See you tommorow/another day
[11:58] <t1n0m3n> anyone here have kubuntu+wpa enterprise experience?
[11:58] <CM_Jamie> Ok
[12:01] <Darkkish> Sound... sounds b etter in linux
[12:01] <Darkkish> Idk why
[12:01] <Darkkish> like better drivers or something
[12:03] <Darkkish> !ntfs
[12:03] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:05] <elvin> could someone tell me how to check my default gateway with the command line?
[12:05] <Darkkish> !ntfs-3g
[12:05] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:05] <Darkkish> hmm
[12:05] <crimsun> elvin: `route -n|grep UG`
[12:05] <elvin> Thanks crimsun
[12:07] <jordo23> I seem to have a file in my trash that will not delete when emptying it. How do I delete this file manually?
[12:07] <jordo23> Where does the trash map to?
[12:08] <Roey> heh
[12:14] <Dragnslcr> jordo23- ~/.local/share/Trash


[10:57] <alkisg> Hi, is `-nolisten tcp` now somehow "embedded" as a Xorg default? It is not listening in 15.10, and in `man Xserver` I can't see the opposite `-listen tcp` option to enable it...
[10:59] <alkisg> `ps` says: X :7 vt7 -auth /path/toxauthority -depth 16 -br
[10:59] <alkisg> ...I didn't define -nolisten tcp
[11:00] <alkisg> yet netstat says that Xorg has no open ports in 6000 etc
[11:00] <alkisg> (this is part of the LTSP code, which was running fine until my latest 15.10 tests)
[11:12] <alkisg> OK I tried `-listen tcp` and it works, but I don't see it documented anywhere, I don't know when it was introduced so that I check properly in the ltsp code when we should pass it and when not...
[11:15] <alkisg> Got it, http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?id=cc59be38b7eff52a1d003b390f2994c73ee0b3e9


[08:19] <Kilos> morning all
[08:19] <Kilos> so wonderful only have power after 10am
[08:51] <paddatrapper> Morning Kilos
[08:51] <paddatrapper> Eish...
[08:53] <Kilos> hi paddatrapper
[08:54] <paddatrapper> Pretty quiet here today
[08:54] <Kilos> would be even more wonderful to have the power before 10 as well
[08:54] <Kilos> yeah peeps go shopping on saterdays
[10:11] <paddatrapper> superfly: QT5 and pyinstaller are finally working nicely!
[10:14] <superfly> paddatrapper: excellent
[10:14] <paddatrapper> Now to get wine working to cross "compile"
[10:14] <superfly> paddatrapper: that's actually not too difficult
[10:15] <paddatrapper> superfly: Yeah, just requires me installing wine right?
[10:21] <paddatrapper> superfly: With wine installed how do I run pyinstaller? wine pyinstaller <spec_file> doesn't work - throws an error
[10:24] <superfly> You need to install the Windows versions of everything
[10:25] <paddatrapper> Ah ok
[10:26] <superfly> So, get Python from python.org
[10:27] <superfly> You might need to use winetricks to install some Windows dependencies
[10:29] <superfly> Install PyWin32 from http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/
[10:31] <superfly> And of course get PyQt5 from https://www.riverbankcomputing.com/software/pyqt/download5
[10:34] <nlsthzn> Good afternoon South Africa
[10:35] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn
[10:37] <nlsthzn> uncle Kilos , all well I hope?
[10:37] <Kilos> yes ty and there?
[10:37] <nlsthzn> all good and toasty thanks
[10:41] <superfly> Hi nlsthzn!
[10:41] <nlsthzn> hey superfly , long time no talk :)
[10:41] <paddatrapper> Hey nlsthzn
[10:41] <superfly> nlsthzn: do you play WoW?
[10:41] <nlsthzn> a wild paddatrapper appears :p - o/
[10:42] <nlsthzn> superfly, World of Warcraft?
[10:42] <superfly> Yes
[10:42] <nlsthzn> nope, don't like the business model, paying every month regardless if you play
[10:43] <superfly> I signed up for Hearthstone, and got a free "starter edition" WoW at the same time
[10:43] <nlsthzn> you playing or looking to start?
[10:43] <nlsthzn> ah ok...
[10:44] <nlsthzn> I have the same thing... never used.  No point getting hooked :p
[10:44] <nlsthzn> are you enjoying hearthstone?
[10:44] <nlsthzn> I haven't played in months
[10:46] <superfly> Sortof
[10:47] <superfly> There are very few games that really stick with me
[10:47] <superfly> Ingress is one of those
[10:48] <superfly> Hearthstone currently doesn't look it
[10:48] <nlsthzn> if you enjoy card type games you should give duelyst a try... the browser version works well in linux
[10:48] <superfly> *to be
[10:48] <nlsthzn> the grind gets tedious in hearthstone
[10:48] <superfly> Ok, I'll do that
[10:48] <nlsthzn> it is also free to play
[10:48] <superfly> I played a game years ago called Etherlords
[10:49] <nlsthzn> I played etherlords II way back when :)
[10:49] <nlsthzn> in the days I still played MTG
[10:49] <superfly> Ah, so you know it :)
[10:49] <superfly> Never really played MTG
[10:50] <superfly> A little, but it didn't really stick with me either
[10:50] <nlsthzn> <3 mtg
[10:50] <nlsthzn> sadly haven't played in almost ten years
[10:50] <nlsthzn> had one game at the recent comicon here... then the kid got sick and I had to leave the tourney :/
[10:54] <superfly> Real life kicked in, eh? :P
[10:55] <hibana> good day Kilos
[10:55] <nlsthzn> yup, life :p
[10:55] <Kilos> ohi hibana
[10:55] <Kilos> what broke
[10:55] <hibana> oh and hi inetpro and others also
[10:55] <superfly> Oh dear, run for your lives! hibana is here!
[10:55] <inetpro> wb hibana
[10:55] <nlsthzn> o/ hibana
[10:55] <Kilos> lol
[10:55] <nlsthzn> oh hai inetpro
[10:56] <hibana> superfly: am just making sure inetpro knows I'm still alive every so often
[10:56]  * nlsthzn joined the ubuntuforum again just in time for the hack >.<
[10:56] <hibana> thanks inetpro
[10:56] <Kilos> hahaha
[10:57] <inetpro> good evening everyone
[10:57] <Kilos> hibana when you giving my sjambok back to me?
[10:58]  * hibana just getting ready to kick inetpro out of here first
[10:58] <Kilos> ok
[10:58] <hibana> but only later...
[10:58]  * hibana wbb
[10:59] <inetpro> eh
[10:59] <inetpro> stoutgat
[11:00] <inetpro> nlsthzn: you hacked the forums?
[11:00] <nlsthzn> no, but my information got hacked with the forum >.<
[11:00] <inetpro> ouch!
[11:01] <nlsthzn> good thing I used my company e-mail and not my personal one
[11:01] <nlsthzn> grrr
[11:01] <nlsthzn> I should really ask them to unban my personal e-mail :p
[11:03] <inetpro> nlsthzn: it's just a clever way to get us all back to using the forums again
[11:04] <nlsthzn> oh, to change our info and ask to be removed? :p
[11:05] <inetpro> hmm...
[11:05] <inetpro> nlsthzn: is your account blocked?
[11:06] <nlsthzn> the one associated with my personal e-mail yes... happened when I left the forum some months ago
[11:07] <nlsthzn> silly SSO makes life difficult
[11:08] <inetpro> total # of posts by inetpro: 2
[11:09] <inetpro> didn't know I was that inactive in all these years
[11:09] <Kilos> check  if i have ever been there
[11:13] <inetpro> Kilos: am not sure whether this is you https://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=1417403
[11:13] <inetpro> or somebody else using your name
[11:13] <inetpro> Join Date: August 25th, 2011
[11:13] <inetpro> Last Activity: May 28th, 2012
[11:14] <inetpro> nlsthzn: you trying to login from a mobile?
[11:15] <nlsthzn> no... I know what the issue is, just need to ask the admins to unban the e-mail
[11:15] <inetpro> ok
[11:15] <nlsthzn> but in general SSO is stupid and just a pain... almost all issues with the forum is SSO related
[11:15] <nlsthzn> that and request to be removed from the forum
[11:15] <nlsthzn> see a couple again today
[11:23] <Kilos> lemme see
[11:26] <Kilos> whats the sso thing to login with
[11:28] <Kilos> ah thats me , ty inetpro
[11:29] <Kilos> oh i think i joined then couldnt find what to do there
[11:29] <Kilos> hehe
[11:33] <nlsthzn> :)
[11:39] <inetpro> nlsthzn: I remember seeing lots from you, why would you want to get outta there now?
[11:40] <nlsthzn> well, I am back actually...
[11:41] <nlsthzn> there was an incident some months ago ending up in me leaving and hard feelings with the staff etc... a sad time (which is why I haven't really been around in anything ubuntu related for sometime now)
[11:53] <nlsthzn> wb inetpro hibana
[11:53] <hibana> thanks nlsthzn
[11:53] <hibana> inetpro: what are you doing?
[11:53] <inetpro> uh oh!
[11:54] <inetpro> hmm...
[11:55] <Kilos> ai! wat nou
[11:55] <inetpro> give me a break hibana
[11:55]  * inetpro just playing around a bit
[11:55] <Kilos> then dont go uh oh
[11:55] <inetpro> ok oom
[11:55] <Kilos> lol
[11:55] <Kilos> so cheeky
[11:57]  * inetpro wbb
[11:57]  * nlsthzn hears a baby bear awake... babysitting time :p - catch later :)
[11:57] <Kilos> enjoy
[12:11] <hibana> ai!
[12:18] <Kilos> wat nou
[12:18] <Kilos> ai!
[12:19] <Kilos> uh oh and ai! both mean something isnt right
[12:19] <Kilos> hibana you killed goosie
[12:20] <hibana> sorry oom
[12:28] <hibana> Kilos: I'll see if I can fix him up again tomorrow
[12:31] <Kilos> oh my
[12:56] <Kilos> whew another 71meg upgrade
[12:58] <Kilos> wbb system restart needed to complete the process
[13:02] <Kilos> hmm...
[13:13] <Kilos> now my kde is lekker, exactly as it was before
[13:13] <Kilos> hehe
[14:21] <hibana> what did you break Kilos?
[14:25] <Kilos> upgraded
[14:26] <Kilos> 14.04 doesnt break
[14:26] <Kilos> been my best OS so far
[14:26] <Kilos> takes a poor typed dd command to kill it
[14:28] <hibana> so you upgraded to what?
[14:29] <Kilos> normal upgrade of kernel stuffs and security stuffs
[14:29] <Kilos> generic image etc
[14:29] <Kilos> jy weet daai goed man
[14:30] <Kilos> in other words im still on 14.04
[14:30] <hibana> hmm... but somewhere in between you must have had something wrong if you are back to "exactly as it was before"
[14:30] <Kilos> no
[14:30] <Kilos> before was perfect for me and still is
[14:31] <hibana> hmm...
[14:31] <Kilos> just a stupid knotify thing crashes once a day and needs a restart
[14:31] <Kilos> been like that from the beginning
[14:32]  * pavlushka curious to know which one?
[14:32] <Kilos> ill take more notice next time it pops up
[14:42] <Kilos> pavlushka http://pasteboard.co/ccjiYo5Tb.png
[14:44] <Kilos> but it restarts fine so no a hassle, just one more click of the mouse
[14:44] <Kilos> i have sent some bug reports but havent followed up on it
[15:03] <hibana> some interesting emails in the background of that image
[15:03] <hibana> was that on purpose?
[15:03] <Kilos> haha
[15:03] <Kilos> nope that is where it crashed
[15:04]  * hibana now knows all his secret addresses
[15:04] <Kilos> haha
[15:04] <Kilos> i have no need to hide anything
[15:14] <nlsthzn> famous last words
[15:40] <hibana> Kilos: big improvements coming in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS in the coming days
[15:40] <Kilos> i read so yes
[15:41] <Kilos> makes me wish i had it
[15:42] <hibana> believe it only when you see it
[15:43] <hibana> will only be good for the rest of the ecosystem if it happens
[15:49] <hibana> Kilos: what's on the menu for the evening sir?
[15:49] <Kilos> shivering
[15:49] <Kilos> cold already
[15:55] <Kilos> hibana what did you break
[15:55] <Kilos> poor inetpro out in the cold
[15:57] <Kilos> but hibana will that unity improvement work for us as well
[15:57] <Kilos> that is the improvement you are talking about right?
[16:00] <Kilos> hmm...
[16:00] <Kilos> knotify4
[16:00] <Kilos> QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
[16:00] <Kilos> QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
[16:06] <nlsthzn> naughty applications :p
[16:06] <Kilos> lol
[16:42] <nlsthzn> the unity improvement will make unity less of a resource hog, has no real impact on anything else
[16:42] <nlsthzn> but hey, unity 8 will ship in 2015 so there is that too
[16:42] <nlsthzn> >.>
[16:56] <Kilos> hibana what is going to improve for kde 16.04
[16:57] <Kilos> seems like he has fallen asleep
[17:00] <nlsthzn> well KDE has been updated to almost the latest plasma 5.6.9 (latest being 5.7.0)
[17:00] <nlsthzn> and it is pretty stable
[17:00] <Kilos> is that whats coming soon
[17:01] <Langjan> It's here!
[17:01] <Kilos> hi Langjan what broke
[17:01] <Kilos> what
[17:01] <Langjan> hi Kilos - whatever was coming soon
[17:01] <Kilos> hahaha
[17:01] <Langjan> you ok?
[17:01] <Kilos> no man new kde stuff
[17:02] <Kilos> yes im ok ty
[17:02] <Langjan> eish, more things to break! Lmga
[17:02] <Kilos> how are you in this cold
[17:02] <Langjan> Good
[17:02] <Kilos> lol
[17:02] <Langjan> Fine thks, not too cold here innie bosveld
[17:02] <Kilos> whew very cold here
[17:03] <Langjan> Sjoe! Skeer 'n skaap en brei 'n trui. Did you see my message re Zorin?
[17:03] <Kilos> yes ty
[17:04] <Langjan> But my pal does not want to know.
[17:04] <Kilos> someone actually asked about zorin here
[17:04] <Kilos> you can take a horse to water, but you cant make it drink
[17:04] <Langjan> When you go over 80 you dont want to try new things - sadly!
[17:05] <Kilos> then he must mar just accept glazed drives etc
[17:05] <Langjan> lmga! yes
[17:05] <Kilos> and forking out money every now and again
[17:05] <Langjan> hes happy to do that - his decision
[17:06] <Kilos> tell him when it happens again and they say he must get a new pc you will take over the scrap from him
[17:06] <Langjan> so looking at getting him a good 160 GB drive - looks like I can pick one up for R100  plus postage from Durbs
[17:07] <Langjan> then install Windoze 7 if its not already there
[17:08] <Kilos> thats cheap
[17:08] <Kilos> new drive?
[17:09] <Langjan> No, secoond hand. There seems to be quite a few around at that price.
[17:09] <Kilos> whew
[17:09] <Langjan> Gumtree
[17:09] <Kilos> everyone going either TB drives or ssd
[17:09] <Langjan> yes I think that's it
[17:10] <Kilos> just remember when you fit it with 7 dont allow any upgrades
[17:11] <Langjan> Oh, Amazon sent me a link to communicate with Intel re the SSD and to get back to them if I dont come right
[17:11] <Kilos> one of the upgrades auto upgrades to 10
[17:11] <Kilos> good
[17:11] <Langjan> will keep that in mind thanks
[17:11] <Kilos> as long as you have notified them then its on record
[17:12] <Langjan> Yes good idea, thanks for that - I had forgotten about the 5-year warranty
[17:12] <Kilos> then will be easier if more sectors go
[17:13] <Langjan> Yes, I will check it now and then - for all I know it was like that from the beginning...
[17:13] <Kilos> could be yes
[17:14] <Langjan> Really did not even think about checking it
[17:14] <Langjan> Any updates from Debs?
[17:15] <Kilos> just watched the stormers game with her commenting on the side
[17:15] <Kilos> its only this coming friday she goves for results
[17:15] <Kilos> but im sure if it was cancer they would have phoned
[17:16] <Langjan> OK, hoping for the best. Sharks irritated me last night
[17:16] <Kilos> so we hope and pray and stress
[17:16] <Kilos> i didnt watch
[17:16] <Kilos> did they at least win
[17:17] <Langjan> Stress only aggravates whatever is bugging - peeps not made to handle stress
[17:17] <Kilos> yeah
[17:17] <Kilos> not easy to turn off though
[17:18] <Langjan> Impossible for us to turn off but the Lord is ready and waiting to do it for us
[17:18] <Langjan> Sorry, gotta go for dinner, chat later
[17:19] <Kilos> enjoy
[17:58] <Langjan> Hi Kilos
[17:58] <Langjan> watching the bulls?
[17:59] <Kilos> yessir
[17:59] <Langjan> score?
[17:59] <Kilos> was hoping the cheetahs could win but i dont think they can
[17:59] <Kilos> 11/3 i think
[17:59] <Kilos> forgot now its half time
[18:00] <Langjan> well I dont think it will make much difference
[18:00] <Langjan> they cant catch the sharks for playoffs
[18:00] <Kilos> i think if the bulls lose sharks make 1/4 finls
[18:01] <Kilos> oh
[18:01] <Langjan> they make it anyway
[18:01] <Kilos> yay
[18:02] <Langjan> Sharks six points ahead
[18:02] <Langjan> 37-43
[18:02] <Kilos> yay
[18:02] <Kilos> but they are playing poor rugger
[18:03] <Langjan> Agreed, they were up for bonus point 2 mins before time then kicked the ball away and let Sunwolves in for a try
[18:04] <Kilos> often they kick good possesion away for nothing
[18:05] <Langjan> then flyhalf did not know the rules, kicked penalty over touchline after the whistle and had to do the lineout on 25 where it should have been on 5 metre line
[18:05] <Kilos> at times you need to keep control of the ball
[18:05] <Kilos> eeish
[18:05] <Langjan> they will lose quartes for sure if they dont adapt and I dont think they can, too used to kick and charge rubbish
[18:06] <Langjan> Enjouy the game, chat later
[18:06] <Kilos> im gonna sleep soon
[18:06] <Langjan> Slaap lekker
[18:06] <Kilos> if im gone when your later arrives sleep well
[18:06] <Langjan> mooi loop
[18:06] <Kilos> dankie oom jy ook
[18:06] <Langjan> thks Kilos
[18:07] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:10] <theblazehen> Wow.  Do an API call that should fail. Doesn't fail the *right* way. Returns a HTTP 200 for a failiure. Now instead of doing if(request,status !=200){raiseException;} I now need to see if a json key exists...
[21:23] <Guest21954> there life in here?


[19:34] <miffed> I got 3 desktops scattered throughout my home, if I copy over .mozilla folder to each desktop after a clean install would that give me all my favourites and extensions on all desktops, is there any problems with this method?
[19:35] <Taggnostr> miffed, on the mozilla site there are tutorials for that
[19:36] <miffed> beyonfd what I have just described?
[19:36] <Taggnostr> backup the profile should be enough, the extensions are saved there, the favorites and passwords as well
[19:36] <miffed> is it not that simple?
[19:37] <Taggnostr> copying the whole .mozilla dir could include other settings that you don't want or that are related to your machine only
[19:37] <Taggnostr> is better to install a new ff and import the old profile
[19:38] <pteague_work> i can get 1280x1024 using the radeon driver, but i can't get it to do dual monitor...  or i can get dual monitor to work using the fglrx driver, but then i'm stuck with 1024x768 as max resolution - yuck
[19:39] <miffed> Taggnostr: I need this to occur automatically and be synced every minute if possible to keep consitency, all desktops are kubuntu and have the same layoout and user name password
[19:40] <Taggnostr> i know there's a way to have the linux and window profile synced, doing it with only linuxs should be even easier
[19:41] <Taggnostr> try to ask on<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:41] <miffed> k thnx will do , everything seems to be working ok just need to be sure i am not setting meself up for a fall in the future
[19:48] <ubuntu__> bonsoir a tous
[19:51] <NumberI> hello
[19:55] <NumberI> torrent don't work
[19:56] <NumberI> azures says: NAT - Connection to <IP_ADDRESS>:62000 (your computer) refused.
[19:56] <NumberI> and that about all ports
[19:57] <NumberI> where can i find firewall and repair it?
[19:58] <justs0me> where do i find shutdown log messages?
[19:58] <Serega> NumberI: by default no firewalled ports in ubuntu, afaik
[19:59] <Serega> NumberI: maybe it is your ISP-related issue
[20:01] <NumberI> here was mandriva linux before
[20:01] <Serega> justs0me: should be in /var/log/syslog
[20:02] <NumberI> and there are no problems with torrent
[20:02] <NumberI> *were
[20:03] <jussi01> !firewall
[20:03] <Serega> NumberI: try "sudo iptables -L"
[20:04] <Serega> this will show you all firewall rules
[20:04] <Serega> and default policies
[20:04] <Serega> (should be all ACCEPT)
[20:04] <NumberI> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[20:04] <NumberI> target     prot opt source               destination
[20:04] <Serega> yep
[20:05] <NumberI> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
[20:05] <NumberI> target     prot opt source               destination
[20:05] <Serega> what torrent client?
[20:05] <NumberI> azures,ktorrent
[20:05] <NumberI> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[20:05] <NumberI> target     prot opt source               destination
[20:05] <jussi01> !paste
[20:06] <Serega> yup, thanks jussi01
[20:06] <jussi01> :)
[20:06] <NumberI> any ideas?
[20:07] <monk3y> Hello, Anyone know how do i mount an .IMG file ? Thanks
[20:07] <Serega> NumberI: try UPnp
[20:07] <Serega> *UPnP
[20:07] <Serega> monk3y: img from MacOSX ?
[20:08] <NumberI> yes, i tryed this, as plugin for ktorrent or azures
[20:08] <Serega> NumberI: does it work?
[20:08] <monk3y> mm?
[20:08] <monk3y> It's Fallout 2.img if that makes it any clearier
[20:08] <Serega> monkey: what actually is your .IMG file?
[20:09] <Serega> ah, ok
[20:09] <Serega> let's consider it usual ISO image...
[20:09] <NumberI> no, that problem again "NAT Îøèáêà - Connection to <IP_ADDRESS>:59210 (your computer) refused."
[20:10] <Serega> monk3y: sudo mount -oloop fallout_best_rpg.img /path/to/mountpoint
[20:11] <monk3y> Thanks mate! ill give it a shot
[20:11] <Serega> monk3y: :)
[20:11] <Serega> NumberI: where do you get this message?
[20:13] <monk3y> umm, it said this:
[20:13] <monk3y> http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot14fb8.png
[20:14] <NumberI> nat/firewall test in azures
[20:15] <Serega> monk3y: slash the space in the mountpoint ("Fallout\ 2")
[20:15] <Serega> or it is considered as an extra argument
[20:15] <monk3y> oh ok
[20:15] <monk3y> thanks again :)
[20:15] <Serega> np :)
[20:17] <monk3y> I think i failed again lol
[20:17] <monk3y> monk3y@Masiina:~$ sudo mount -o loop Fallout_2.img /Home/Monk3y/Fallout\ 2
[20:18] <monk3y> Fallout_2.img: No such file or directory
[20:18] <Serega> NumberI: never used azureus :( try to play with ktorrent and UPnP. Or you can test an incoming connection in some other way
[20:19] <Serega> NumberI: e.g. by running FTP, or etc
[20:19] <NumberI> i used ktorrent and there were  this problem
[20:20] <Serega> monk3y: hmmm... looks like there is no Fallout_2.img =)
[20:20] <Serega> did you use TAB key for fiel name completion?
[20:20] <NumberI> and as i say, in mandriva all was ok
[20:21] <lascar> how do I enable bluetooth support?
[20:22] <monk3y> Serega: http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot15jb7.png
[20:22] <Serega> lascar: sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth start
[20:24] <Serega> NumberI: look at the "netstat -ln"
[20:24] <Serega> is your torrent client present here?
[20:24] <lascar> Serega: do I have to run that each boot?
[20:24] <lascar> serega: what's the point of kbluetoothd?
[20:24] <Serega> lascar: actually this service should be run by default
[20:25] <Serega> lascar: I guess it should serve incoming bluetooth events on the high level
[20:26] <lascar> serega: so there's no need to install obex?
[20:27] <Serega> lascar: nope, it should be all set afaik
[20:27] <jd> help
[20:27] <jd> help
[20:27] <jd> need driver sis 671
[20:27] <Serega> monk3y: hey, learn the commandline!)
[20:27] <lascar> serega: ok, thanx.
[20:27] <Serega> you are performing that command in the your home folder
[20:28] <monk3y> Serega: ok =P im pretty new with linux, always used the eezmod windows
[20:28] <Serega> monk3y: type "cd Fall"
[20:29] <Serega> and press TAB key
[20:29]  * Serega waits or "wow, what a magic!"
[20:29] <Serega> :)
[20:29] <jd> help help
[20:30]  * lascar chuckles
[20:30] <Serega> jd: do not flood, just ask
[20:30] <jd> ок
[20:31] <Serega> good :)
[20:31] <Serega> what's up?
[20:32] <NumberI> no
[20:33] <R0b0t1> Would anyone here happen to know the bash command/script that outputs the users hardware and all of that information?
[20:33] <R0b0t1> Goes something like /exec -o uname ....?
[20:34] <Serega> R0b0t1: lspci
[20:35] <R0b0t1> Hmm, that works, except the one I remember printed out more compact information :-D
[20:35] <Serega> uname -a
[20:35] <Serega> ?
[20:36] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[20:36] <NumberI> there aren't
[20:36] <NumberI> *there isn't
[20:40] <Serega> NumberI: what did you search there?
[20:40] <Serega> there should  be the port, not the program name
[20:41] <Serega> and a torrent client must run at the moment
[20:42] <sredna> hi
[20:42] <sredna> how can i make aptitude ignore the build in brokenness?
[20:42] <sredna> it fails upgrading because a packate have unmet dependencies (konqueror-plugins)
[20:44] <Heinz-L-Mann> the build in brokenness?
[20:45] <Serega> strange for hardy
[20:45] <Serega> sredna: you should fix this situation via dpkg --remove
[20:47] <NumberI> yes, i see port number
[20:47] <NumberI> tcp6       0      0 :::59210                :::*                    LISTEN
[20:48] <Serega> NumberI: I could try to connect to you via telnet
[20:48] <NumberI> why?
[20:49] <Serega> to test can I reach this port on your IP from the outside, and the we'll look at syslog
[20:50] <NumberI> ok, what should i do?
[20:50] <Serega> NumberI: connection refused :)
[20:50] <Serega> NumberI: dmesg | tail
[20:51] <Serega> NumberI: and use pastebin, do not flood here :)
[20:52] <bry3n> #ubuntu-fr
[20:53] <NumberI> http://paste.ubuntu.com/35192/
[20:58] <Serega> NumberI: looks like I can't help you with this, sorry
[20:59] <Serega> the log contains no info about any network operations
[20:59] <NumberI> mb something with iptables?
[21:00] <njt88> sorry if i'm in the wrong place:please direct me where i should be if so. I'm a newbie, trying to connect my feisty pc to my tv via s-video, but there is nothing showing on my tv. i haven't messed with any drivers or nvidia settings yet. can anyone help?
[21:01] <Serega> njt88: why do you use so ancient release?
[21:01] <njt88> if it ain't broke, don't fix it!
[21:02] <ere4si> !nvidia
[21:02] <miffed> njt88: I have used fx5200 nvidiia s-video to tv-out with no problems worked out the box
[21:02] <Serega> wrong for linux, imho
[21:02] <miffed> I only use TV dont have a monitor :/
[21:03] <gokturk> #
[21:03] <gokturk> #ubuntu-tr
[21:04] <Guest73432> #pardus
[21:04] <Guest73432> #pardusgeyik
[21:04] <njt88> which channel on my tv should the picture be on? SVHS?
[21:05] <miffed> yep on mine svhs gives colour picture
[21:05] <miffed> I use a s-video to scart adaptor
[21:06] <miffed> AV gives me a black n white picture
[21:06] <njt88> that's what I have too...but there is nothing. do I need to change my drivers do you think?
[21:07] <miffed> mine works out the box since breezy without any changes at all,
[21:07] <miffed> I dont have a vga connected at all and installed through TV
[21:09] <NumberI> Ñåðåãà? à íà ðóññêîì?
[21:09] <eagles0513875> NumberI: what language u after
[21:09] <njt88> well, i have my monitor connected by VGA, and an S-video to tv. do you think then that it might be some nvidia settings that I need to change so that it recognises the tv?
[21:10] <miffed> if you have VGA attached I would disconnect cable and try with s-video only after a restart
[21:10] <miffed> d u want twin monitrs or nly TV?
[21:10] <NumberI> what u can say about iptables? can it refuse ports?
[21:11] <miffed> do you want to run on VGA and TV or just TV?
[21:11] <njt88> i just want to be able to watch movies on my tv - it's ok with me if they show on both monitor and tv at the same time
[21:12] <njt88> I want to be able to have both VGA and TV connected at the same time. don't care if I have to switch, or if they both show images at the same time
[21:13] <miffed> if I attach a VGA to my PC it then mirrors what I have on TV
[21:13] <njt88> that is what I would like, if possible
[21:13] <miffed> This worked for me without making any changes at all, it does not even require the nvidia drivers
[21:14] <nessuno> hi
[21:14] <njt88> ok, well I'll try taking out the VGA and seeing if I can get the image on my TV, then plug the VGA back in
[21:15] <miffed> yup make sure reboot thugh it should show up on yur TV
[21:15] <miffed> what card u got ?
[21:15] <njt88> ok, well I'll try it
[21:17] <njt88> nvidia g forse 6600 i think
[21:21] <barbaro> #cultura
[21:22] <barbaro> sorry
[21:23] <miffed> njt88: when you restart PC with s-video you should at least see your BIOS screen
[21:24] <miffed> so the OS does not really come into to it to start with
[21:24] <njt88> ok, thanks. do you mean on my tv?
[21:24] <miffed> yup
[21:24] <miffed> then at the least you know your cable and Tv are workin fine
[21:25] <njt88> ok, thanks that's great advice. I'll try that as the first step
[21:26] <miffed> np only just realised it meself :P
[21:27] <njt88> ok, well thanks for all you help miffed. appreciate it
[21:27] <miffed> no worries hope it helps
[21:27] <njt88> me too!!
[21:29] <matisse> hi, there is a package called kompare-kde4. Is there an alternative for kde3 ?
[21:30] <matisse> actually I'm searching a good diff tool
[21:30] <matisse> (graphical)
[21:30] <matisse> !diff
[21:30] <Daisuke-Laptop> !kompare
[21:31] <traqn> hi to all
[21:31] <traqn> i need some help
[21:31] <traqn> first sorry about my english
[21:31] <matisse> start explaining...
[21:31] <traqn> i just installed ubuntu
[21:32] <traqn> with beryl
[21:32] <matisse> IN ONE LINE
[21:32] <lenea> hey everyone. could you please tell me what to use in order to play .rmvb files in kubuntu?
[21:32] <traqn> but have some errors
[21:32] <engineer> !enter
[21:32] <traqn> something with aqurine
[21:32] <matisse> traqn: stop
[21:32] <traqn> ok
[21:32] <matisse> traqn: read !enter
[21:32] <matisse> !enter
[21:32] <engineer> damn bulgarians
[21:33] <traqn> sorry
[21:33] <Freddy2> lenea: maybe.. real player?
[21:34] <miffed> I install kubuntu restricted all the ugly plugins and somewhere along the way it install support for realplayer
[21:34] <Freddy2> maybe mplayer too
[21:34] <barbaro> hi,,,,,somebody talk italian
[21:34] <lenea> Freddy2 : well real player doesn't show up in adept list. with mplayer i couldn't get them to play, i don't know why
[21:35] <moviz> bonsoir
[21:35] <engineer> !it
[21:35] <matisse> traqn: still typing ? :-)
[21:36] <traqn> no
[21:36] <traqn> i stopped
[21:36] <barbaro> grazie te
[21:36] <moviz> why dont you spek french
[21:36] <kekko> what's the easiest to install email server (just to send test mail from php..)?
[21:36] <matisse> traqn: explain your problem in 1-2 lines
[21:36] <jslinformatica> oi
[21:36] <moviz> fuck it
[21:36] <moviz> porn-w.org
[21:36] <Freddy2> lenea: only avaible in 32-bit systems
[21:36] <engineer> kekko apt-cache search php mail
[21:37] <moviz> lol
[21:37] <Daisuke-Laptop> because this isn't the french channel
[21:37] <lenea> Freddy2 : well i am 32-bit
[21:37] <jslinformatica> oi
[21:37] <moviz> ah ok
[21:37] <Daisuke-Laptop> !fr | moviz
[21:38] <traqn> 1 my beryl don't start with the OS and somethimes (after 10 min.) gives me an error something with aquarineo , this is my first linux
[21:38] <miffed> !sendmail
[21:38] <moviz> porn-w.rg
[21:38] <moviz> prg
[21:38] <moviz> org
 thanks very much - it worked straight out of the box, as you said it would. really appreciate your help - i was overthinking things!
[21:39] <Freddy2> lenea: you can also check the binary file at real player's website http://www.real.com/realcom/R?href=http://forms.real.com/real/player/download.html?f=unix/RealPlayer11GOLD.bin
[21:39] <lenea> Freddy2 : thanks, i'll check it out now
[21:39] <matisse> traqn: you should give the exact error message
[21:40] <traqn> ok
[21:40] <matisse> could be helpful
[21:40] <traqn> private matisse?
[21:40] <traqn> chat
[21:40] <miffed> njt88: np thnx for letting me know it worked
[21:40] <njt88> now worries mate. all the best
[21:41] <miffed> you can tweak ure xorg.conf to make it look better now :)
[21:45] <awry> can anyone help me confirm a bug in kfontview-1.1 (kde4.1)?
[21:46] <awry> the otf files downloaded from here http://www.cthulhulives.org/toybox/PROPDOCS/FreeFonts.html
[21:46] <awry> are not rendered by kfontview in kde-4.1 (just shows a blank window)
[21:46] <Serega> awry: I am
[21:47] <awry> though they open normally in kfontview in 3.5.9
[21:47] <Serega> but I'm not sure it is for #kubuntu channel
[21:47] <awry> Serega: why not?  it could be a bug in the kde-4.1 packages
[21:48] <awry> Serega: where else should i ask?
[21:49] <Serega> at #kubuntu-devel I guess, but let's stay here
[21:49] <awry> ok
[21:50]  * Serega is reproducing
[21:50]  * awry wonders if it's all opentype fonts, or just these?
[21:53]  * awry is beginning to suspect it is *all* fonts
[21:53]  * jhutchins_wk has wasted many hours on fonts, going right back to hand set lead type.
[21:53] <Serega> awry: it works for me: KDE4.1, kfontview 1.1, kubuntu intrepid
[21:53] <Daisuke-Laptop> jhutchins_wk: that's the only way to go.  two cases of lead slugs.
[21:54] <Serega> I have tried several fonts from the archive
[21:54] <awry> Serega: that's interesting... i've now tried some ttfs and i get the same result
[21:54] <awry> i'm running hardy, but the kde4 pkgs are the same, no?
[21:54] <Serega> no
[21:55] <Serega> all intrepid packages do not have -kde4 suffix
[21:55] <Serega> and maybe something else
[21:55] <Serega> most likely something else
[21:55] <awry> hmm
[21:55] <awry> i wonder if i'm missing some key library/package?
[21:56] <awry> kdebase-workspace-bin has all deps and suggests satisfied...
[21:57] <lenea> hey everyone. can anyone please help in playing .rmvb files? i have tried vlc, mplayer. real player doesn't show up in adept and the binary isn't good either. i'm using kubuntu 8.04 with KDE4. please help. thanks
[21:57] <awry> anyone running kde-4.1 on hardy care to test my kfontview issue?
[21:58] <awry> lenea: rmvb is a realnetworks codec
[21:59] <lenea> awry : so what should i do?
[21:59] <awry> you could try the free helix-player
[21:59] <awry> but you might need realplayer
[21:59] <awry> (e.g. there may not be a free version of the codec)
[21:59] <lenea> awry : i will try helix(although i heard that doesn't work either), as for real player..i cannot install it
[21:59] <awry> http://www.real.com/linux
[21:59] <Serega> awry: try at #kubuntu-devel
[22:01] <BluesKaj> !realplayer | lenea
[22:13] <RG-NewGuy> trying to install mplayer on kubuntu
[22:13] <RG-NewGuy> the machine with kubuntu has no internet access
[22:14] <Daisuke-Laptop> that could prove to be tricky
[22:14] <RG-NewGuy> is there a .zip somewhere with all the .debs required?
[22:14] <RG-NewGuy> and i mean (ALL) the debs
[22:14] <RG-NewGuy> yeah its been a real pain
[22:15] <RG-NewGuy> so far i've been dl one dependacy
[22:15] <RG-NewGuy> try again
[22:15] <RG-NewGuy> then get the other
[22:15] <HighHo> RG-NewGuy: are they not on the cd?
[22:15] <RG-NewGuy> i downloaded kubuntu from online
[22:15] <RG-NewGuy> then burned it to dvd
[22:15] <RG-NewGuy> not much came with it
[22:16] <RG-NewGuy> i'm about to delete and try again
[22:16] <RG-NewGuy> b/c somehow i lost amarok
[22:16] <RG-NewGuy> however when i got it i couldn't play mp3's
[22:16] <RG-NewGuy> can't watch vids
[22:17] <RG-NewGuy> so yeah, its been a lot of d/l.ing
[22:17] <HighHo> RG-NewGuy: Use the CD as your repo source and try and apt-get install mplayer - for playback of mp3's you need codecs installed
[22:17] <HighHo> !mp3
[22:18] <RG-NewGuy> highho, are you telling me that the 700mb cd, didn't install all its packages?
[22:18] <nusakan> Hi, if anyone remembers, I was on here a little over a week ago trying to format a new external hard drive. Well, I just got the replacement and was wondering if someone could hold my hand and give me some step-by-step instructions so I don't frak it up again?
[22:19] <BluesKaj> RG-NewGuy, not all packages or required codecs are included for leagal reasons
[22:19] <BluesKaj> err legal
[22:21] <RG-NewGuy> BluesKaj, with that being said that would imply they packages would not be on the cd correct?
[22:22] <BluesKaj> well, parts of packages and yes a lot of the media packages aren't total (like libdvdcss2 for playing commercial dvds etc)
[22:22] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | RG-NewGuy
[22:25] <rabiddachshund> How can I get ~/.kde/Autostart to execute a bash script instead of opening it in kate?
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> rabiddachshund:  chmod u+x <script>
[22:25] <RG-NewGuy> BluesKaj back to my orginal problem (machine with kubuntu = no internet access)
[22:26] <BluesKaj> wireless or wired ?
[22:26] <RG-NewGuy> none
[22:26] <RG-NewGuy> zero
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> RG-NewGuy: you need it to get setup ironically enough
[22:27] <rabiddachshund> actionparsnip: ty
[22:27] <ky> hi! I have a Hardy Heron (2.6.24-16) in my Laptop ASUS S200n and dont know how To adjust WIFI
[22:27] <RG-NewGuy> ?
[22:27] <BluesKaj> rabiddachshund, don't use autostart for a bash script , use /etc/nit.d
[22:27] <RG-NewGuy> i'm not following
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> rabiddachshund: you had a text file, not a script
[22:28] <RG-NewGuy> ActionParsnip, what do you mean need it to setup?
[22:28] <rabiddachshund> blueskaj: it's just to open firefox to reddit and amarok to play
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> RG-NewGuy: if you are setting up a pc and ned drivers you need internet access
[22:28] <rabiddachshund> is there a better way to do this?
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> RG-NewGuy: or is that not what you are trying to do?
[22:29] <RG-NewGuy> well there is one thing, how do i make my kubuntu detect wireless networks?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> RG-NewGuy: is your wireless adapter installed ok?
[22:30] <RG-NewGuy> ActionParsnip its a laptop
[22:30] <RG-NewGuy> came built in
[22:30] <guaqua> anyone else having trouble with dns resolving?
[22:30] <HighHo> !wifi : RG-NewGuy
[22:30] <guaqua> mine dies after i've been using the computer for some time
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> RG-NewGuy: ok but does your KUbuntu operating system talk to it?
[22:31] <RG-NewGuy> ActionParsnip, umm
[22:31] <HighHo> !wifi
[22:31] <RG-NewGuy> ActionParsnip: when i turn it on the bluetooth logo pops up
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> RG-NewGuy: ok we'll do it the easy way. What laptop do yuo have
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> RG-NewGuy: full make and model
[22:32] <BluesKaj> rabiddachshund, just drag the icon into konqueror /usr/share/autostart, be sure tpo open autostart with : kdesudo konqueror /usr/share/autostart in the Run Command (alt+F2)
[22:33] <RG-NewGuy> Sony Viao/ model unknown :(
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> RG-NewGuy: ok run lspci
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> in terminal
[22:33] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper | RG-NewGuy
[22:33] <lenea> hey all. did anyone actually manage to play .rmvb under kubuntu 8.04 KDE4?
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> RG-NewGuy: you'll see a tonne of text, read it, one line will be your wireless
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> RG-NewGuy: paste that line and only that line in here
[22:35] <RG-NewGuy> i'll have to try at another time (if i leave this computer another person will get on)
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> RG-NewGuy: ok well I doubt they will use it as its got no www access, and it seems thats all people use them for these days
[22:35] <RG-NewGuy> this computer has www access
[22:35] <RG-NewGuy> this comp = public
[22:36] <RG-NewGuy> my laptop = in other room
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> RG-NewGuy: oic :D
[22:36] <RG-NewGuy> gotta love externals
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> RG-NewGuy: well run lspci and write what you see and head in here and someone will help
[22:37] <nusakan> If I'm partitioning an external hard drive for use as storage, do I just make it one big ext3 partition?
[22:37] <Daisuke-Laptop> nusakan: that's fine, assuming you don't have a windows boot that needs to access it as well
[22:39] <RG-NewGuy> ActionParsnip, here is a question
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: partition it as you want
[22:39] <RG-NewGuy> someone earlier suggested i use my install cd as a source for packages, what kind of packages would be on the cd that didn't get installed?
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> RG-NewGuy: not all the stuff on the cd gets install, theers tonnes on there. If you want to add stuff then you can
[22:41] <RG-NewGuy> any multimedia stuff?
[22:41] <RG-NewGuy> like timidity?
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> RG-NewGuy: should be yes
[22:41] <RG-NewGuy> cd = internet iso, burn
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> RG-NewGuy: but not everyone wants timidity so its not installed
[22:42] <RG-NewGuy> intresting once last question
[22:42] <RG-NewGuy> how do i make cd a source?
[22:42] <nusakan> I'm using QTparted and whenever I finish partitioning it. It... like... forgets what the partition is. Whenever I come back to it it has Type unknown and doesn't remember the label for the partition.
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> RG-NewGuy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[22:43] <RG-NewGuy> i find it funny, right now nobody can use this comp except me however i'm not allowed to take out the net connection and plug it in my personal :(
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: did you run kdesu qtparted?
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> RG-NewGuy: do it when they are all asleep
[22:44] <nusakan> I don't know what that means... so no.
[22:44] <nusakan> that doesn't mean it's not gonna work at all now does it?
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: you will have ran it as a user, which wont give you the access yuo need
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: you need to run it with root privs (kdesu) or it wont write to the disk
[22:45] <nusakan> do need to run it in Konsole?
[22:45] <BluesKaj> nusakan, I haven't had much experience with qtparted, but i 've used GParted successfully many times. It's a useful tool that can be booted into as a partition editor for any OS and ghosting partitons to other drives as well, amongst other things
[22:45] <RG-NewGuy> ActionParsnip, sadly no such time exist (constant travel in and out of here) [that was the first thought to cross my mind :) ]
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> RG-NewGuy: helps if you get ubuntu friendly wifi ;)
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> RG-NewGuy: look round the laptop, is there no model, look to the bottom rigt of the screen is there a sticker
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> sony are good like that
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> plus sony == $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$4
[22:47] <BluesKaj> !GParted | nusakan
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: hes got qtparted as hes running kde
[22:49] <RG-NewGuy> sony = trash
[22:49] <RG-NewGuy> i wanted a dual boot
[22:49] <RG-NewGuy> i ended up with an empty hdd
[22:49] <nusakan> got gparted
[22:49] <ky> hi! how can i to adjust wifi on laptop asus s200n (kubuntu 8/04)
[22:49] <nusakan> now where would it be?
[22:51] <nusakan> "sudo apt-get install gparted" finished. Now what?
[22:51] <miraclemaxim_> type gparted
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> youll need kdesu gparted
[22:52] <nusakan> Failed to open device
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: try man gparted
[22:54] <BluesKaj> gparted should be run as a live cd
[22:56] <RG-NewGuy> if i add my cd as a repositary is there a way to choose which packages to install?
[22:56] <RG-NewGuy> or will it be like guessing if its there
[22:56] <nusakan> can i do kdesu qtparted?
[22:57] <RG-NewGuy> something like browse repos?
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> RG-NewGuy: you run sudo apt-get update and it will see what .debs are on the cd
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> RG-NewGuy: its transparent to you
[23:00] <Juhapuha> Hello. I need help with JuK player and Konversation IRC client. The /media command returns "no supported players are running" when i try to use  it when listening music with JuK. I'm wondering if someone could help me out :)
[23:00] <Juhapuha> Kubuntu 8.04 and kd4.1
[23:01] <nusakan> I think i got it! GParted is formatting it now!
[23:01] <RG-NewGuy> well i am off thanks for all the help
[23:01] <RG-NewGuy> i WILL be back
[23:02] <nusakan> Thanks for your help everyone. I'll be back if i have more questions.
[23:07] <metaldark> .
[23:08] <nusakan> ok i'm enabling it in system settings. what do I make the mount point?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: is it just for data storage?
[23:09] <nusakan> yes
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: then anywhere you want
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> just not anywhere in /opt or you'll get issues
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> and we'll all laugh
[23:10] <nusakan> Could I make it a folder on the Desktop?
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: sure
[23:11] <nusakan> And does that mean anything that gets put in that folder gets saved to the drive?
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: if you add it suitably in /etc/fstab it wil mount at boot
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: yes as its mounted there
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: you can mount it to any empty folder
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: its common to use /mnt/<some folder name>
[23:14] <nusakan> ok im in the window and its asking me the mount point. if i want it to be a folder on my desktop named Justin Case, do I just put that, or /mnt/Justin Case or what?
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: no, open a konsole and type mkdir ~/Desktop/Justin\ Case
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> then use the tool to specify that folder as the mount point
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: sounds like its going to update your /etc/fstab for you
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: is it going ok?
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: you needed the \ in the name Justin\ Case to handle the space
[23:19] <nusakan> Yeah, one more option do I want device by name, by uuid, or by label?
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> well current fstab uses uuids so id stick with that
[23:20] <nusakan> what do i put for uuid?
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: oh god no idea
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: is this part of gparted still?
[23:21] <nusakan> no, system settings
[23:21] <nusakan> the default is by name
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> use that then, the defaults are usually fine
[23:22] <nusakan> what do I name it?
[23:22] <nusakan> anything i want?
[23:22] <BluesKaj> eeuww , system settings edits are finicky
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> something with a single word, no spaces
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> something like storage or files
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> or stuff
[23:23] <nusakan> Something that when I see it Ill know it's talking about my external, but it could be anyhting?
[23:23] <nusakan> that's one word
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> as far as i know
[23:23] <nusakan> ok
[23:23] <nusakan> Atlas
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> i usually do all this manually so im not familiar
[23:24] <nusakan> was there a better way i should have done it?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> using mke2fs /etc/fstab etc but noobs need apps which means they wont break stuuf (a good thing)
[23:24] <bobyada_> How do I play rmvb files?
[23:25] <nusakan> do i check enable at startup?
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> bobyada_: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/745342.html
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: run sudo mount -a
[23:26] <nusakan> shouldn't i finish this?
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: oooh, i thought yuo had
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: id check it
[23:26] <nusakan> should i click the checkbox for enable at startup?
[23:26] <nusakan> ok
[23:29] <nusakan> 'Atlas' does not seem to be a device and the option 'bind' has not been specified in the "Advanced" page?
[23:29] <nusakan> Should I add the 'loop' option?
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> !gparted
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> id read that
[23:30] <nusakan> I got an error message that said that, should i click ok?
[23:30] <nusakan> or rather yes?
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Gparted
[23:32] <nusakan> wait, i think it wanted the name to be /dev/sdb1. Does that sound right?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> sounds ok, if you run sudo fdisk -l yuo'll see
[23:33] <nusakan> thats the name of the partition in gparted
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> bring up another konsole and run it
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> oh ok
[23:34] <nusakan> so i guess just /dev/sdb
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> makes sense
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> if you run the fdisk command you can check
[23:37] <nusakan> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/35248/
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: ok run sudo fdisk -l and give me a pastebin of the output
[23:39] <nusakan> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/35249/
[23:39] <Daisuke-Laptop> nusakan: i would imagine you would have to mount with a device and partition number.  rather than /dev/sdb, it would be /dev/sdb0 or 1 or something
[23:39] <Daisuke-Laptop> and it looks like /dev/sdb1
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> sdb1 is the partition
[23:40] <Daisuke-Laptop> yep, just mounting /dev/sdb won't work unless you're intelikey (weirdo doesn't use partitions :D)
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: try sudo mount /dev/sdb1 ~/Desktop/Justin\ Case
[23:41] <nusakan> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/35250/
[23:41] <nusakan> in konsole?
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: all commands written in here are ALL in konsole
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: better?
[23:44] <nusakan> i think so, but I still cant save files to Justin Case
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> well if you run mount on its own it will tell you whats mounted and where
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> pastebin it :D
[23:46] <nusakan> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/35252/
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: check line 13 bro ;)
[23:47] <nusakan> then why doesn't it work?
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: you may need to grant users access to it, gimme a sec
[23:50] <di48lo> can someone help me mount my removable harddrive permanently??
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> !fstab | di48lo
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: im gonna give you a line to add to your /etc/fstab this wil allow users access
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: /dev/sdb1              /home/nathan/Desktop/Justin\ Case          ext3    defaults 0 0
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: add that to the bottom of the file
[23:58] <nusakan> ok done
[23:58] <steve555>
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> nusakan: ok save it and close kate
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> then sudo mount -a
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> then try again


[02:20] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[06:31] <wez> Good afternoon lotuspsychj3! How is your day so far
[07:28] <gonix> hey.
[13:10] <gonix> hi
[13:11] <gonix> i wonder if there is still dvd/bluray readers on current gen laptops.
[13:12] <gonix> i think they are all gone? maybe still on gamers laptop?
[13:12] <daftykins> nah no optical drives typically these days
[13:12] <gonix> i thought it was #hardware nm.
[13:18] <gonix> ok, yeah the 2 ones i checked did not.
[13:19] <gonix> so all games are dematerialized nowdays, they will stop manufacturing and selling PC games blurays and DVDs.
[13:45] <gonix> let's say we've seen the birth of 1.4M floppy disks and we might as well see the death of the 80 GB blurays, lol.
[13:48] <daftykins> where once games on disc for games consoles helped avoid the problem of slow connections, in many cases they serve as only a license now... and what might be on disc is already replaced by a patched game that must be downloaded online
[13:55] <gonix> yeah, it's often the case, and the added DLC
[13:57] <daftykins> i still have a bluray drive myself in my desktop but i like ripping my films onto network storage for discless playback
[15:25] <matt3> arraybolt3 : is ubuntu license = gnu gpl ?
[15:27] <ravage> matt3: https://ubuntu.com/legal/intellectual-property-policy
[15:28] <lotuspsychj3> im sure matt3 already discussed that 50 times, should probably know the answer by now
[15:29] <ravage> i feel like feeding the troll a little today sorry :P
[15:30] <lotuspsychj3> haha
[17:28] <ravage> https://pod.haxxors.com/posts/1131210 in case anyone else finds this useful :)
[17:29] <ravage> (adjusting your monitor settings from Ubuntu instead of the OSD)
[17:52]  * arraybolt3 only just now learned that was even possible
[17:53] <ravage> same here :D
[20:01] <leftyfb> hell yeah, I've been looking for something like this
[20:01] <leftyfb> ravage: thanks
[21:52] <ducasse> awesome ravage - that is pretty cool


[05:22] <erappleman> sorry about the bugmail spam
[05:22] <erappleman> updating the hybrid spec to reflect the uds minutes
[05:33] <erappleman> btw mlankhorst, i'd like to volunteer my machine's gpu time to testing the user experience spec
[05:50]  * erappleman just realized that he missed both meetings (they weren't scheduled when i checked a few days ago)
[06:13] <mlankhorst> erappleman: well all the x ones were on friday all of a sudden
[06:14] <mlankhorst> ergh!
[06:14] <mlankhorst> thursday
[06:15] <Sarvatt> mlankhorst: better than x planning sessions being on monday like in the past to have things change a few days later :)
[06:15]  * mlankhorst blames Sarvatt
[06:16]  * Sarvatt blames Sarvatt too
[06:17] <mlankhorst> Sarvatt: what makes you think that's nto going to happen anyway?
[06:17] <erappleman> darn timezones
[06:17] <erappleman> i would've been up at 4am and on irc or skype if i had known
[06:19] <mlankhorst> i think if you looked on wednesday you would have seen all
[06:20] <erappleman> i blame my freeloading friend for screwing up my week
[06:20] <erappleman> hurricane leechers are bad news
[06:20]  * mlankhorst blames lack of bikers!