[10:10] <flaccid> you could run "file filename" against every file from the package to find the binary
[10:11] <flaccid> cool
[10:11] <fdoving> partack_: glad you got it working :)
[10:12] <partack_> ^-^ cheers so much =)  .  heh. i guess i'll idle in here , eh?  i'll probably need more help some time or other =P and searching google for 3 days didn't help =P
[10:12] <fdoving> Arlington: or you could run 'dpkg -L pacakgename' (without version or .deb) to list the files in the package.
[10:12] <fdoving> Arlington: whatever is in /usr/bin or /usr/sbin is the binary.
[10:12] <partack_> thanks again ^-^  seeyah
[10:12] <fdoving> usually..
[10:13] <flaccid> or /usr/local/bin or hopefully any dir with /bin
[10:14] <fdoving> packages should not put stuff in /usr/local/bin and /bin is for essential stuff, but yes. :)
[10:14] <flaccid> this is from an rpm..
[10:14] <flaccid> :p
[10:14] <flaccid> who knows where the location could be
[10:15] <Arlington> nothing there
[10:15] <flaccid> nothing at all in the package?
[10:16] <Arlington> nothing in the bin directory.
[10:16] <fabian_> hey guys! I've got a problem with kubuntu 6.06 dapper... when I plug-in an usb-device, nothing happens... in the past, an icon appeared on the desktop an allowed me to mount/eject the device but now there's nothing... I didn't anything, I think...
[10:16] <flaccid> Arlington: run file on each command to find the binary
[10:17] <Arlington> i've found out that they distribute a .deb install thorugh a repository that they manage. thanks for the help.
[10:17] <flaccid> np
[10:17] <flaccid> fyi apt-rpm can be used for rpms too :)
[10:17] <Arlington> there should be a but in front of the thanks for the help
[10:17] <flaccid> coolio
[10:18] <ironfroggy> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/40255643/
[10:18] <ironfroggy> can anyone tell me if that URL works for them? i cant get the flash game to work but it doesnt complain about flash versions.
[10:19] <Schalken> does anyone have the valid md5sum for the kubuntu 6.06 iso?
[10:19] <flaccid> ironfroggy: don't think it works for me
[10:19] <Schalken> (6.06, not 6.06.1)
[10:19] <flaccid> ironfroggy: google flash satay @ ALA and thats the best way to embed flash
[10:19] <flaccid> i might
[10:20] <zorglu_> fb3af44c21f1f68cc25fda7edb8c1bd3  ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[10:20] <zorglu_> oh ok
[10:20] <Schalken> but kubuntu not ubuntu
[10:20] <Schalken> :P
[10:20] <ironfroggy> flaccid: what? sorry, dont get what you mean.
[10:21] <zorglu_> Schalken: 6.06 is not more distributed by canonical, so i dunno :)
[10:21] <fdoving> Schalken: kubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso ?
[10:21] <Schalken> fdoving: thats the one
[10:21] <flaccid> i got: 415692829ebc4d5a54e5ce6a4f15f1a6  kubuntu-6.06-dvd-i386.iso
[10:21] <zorglu_> i guess he want the cd :)
[10:21] <Schalken> flaccid: lol do you have the cd?
[10:22] <flaccid> fdoving: there is an article called flash satay that shows how to embed flash across browsers
[10:22] <flaccid> Schalken: i have the cd image still
[10:22] <fdoving> Schalken: i don't have the official md5sum, but i can make one for you, of my iso.
[10:22] <fdoving> Schalken: ad390f978451c0cc99ec866702de6ad2  kubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[10:23] <Schalken> fdoving: yes, good, thats what i got, thanks
[10:23] <Schalken> even though some sites host 6.06 they dont have the md5s :P
[10:23] <fdoving> i recommend 6.06.1 though.
[10:23] <fdoving> the livecd installer is better.
[10:24] <Schalken> fdoving: yes however i tried that and it didnt work so i am trying 6.06
[10:24] <Schalken> see here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=273497
[10:24] <fdoving> ok, if it didn't work you might be better off with the alternate cd. if you haven't tried it yet.
[10:25] <Schalken> fdoving: the puzzling thing is it used to work, even on this very CD-RW
[10:25] <Schalken> so i will try another
[10:25] <fdoving> does the cd-drive work with other disks?
[10:25] <Schalken> fdoving: yes. the ubuntu 6.06 cds i had shipped still work.
[10:26] <fdoving> hum.
[10:26] <fdoving> ok.-
[10:26] <Schalken> fdoving: i am just going to try this other CD-RW at the slowest burn and see if it works ;)
[10:26] <fdoving> do that :)
[10:28] <Arlington> my adept won't start :-(
[10:28] <fdoving> try to start it from konsole, do you get error messages?
[10:29] <Schalken> hey whats the default way to bring down yakuake?
[10:29] <fdoving> that's kmenu -> system -> konsole -> 'sudo adept_manager'
[10:29] <Arlington> it works in console. but whne i try to start through starmenu i get to input my password and then nothing.
[10:29] <fdoving> Arlington: what about 'kdesu adept_manager' from konsole?
[10:30] <Schalken> is adept's command 'adept_manager'? why not just 'adept'? i never seen a command with a '_'
[10:30] <Arlington> command adept_manager wasn't found
[10:31] <fdoving> ah, sorry, that's in edgy.
[10:31] <fdoving> 'adept'
[10:31] <Arlington> well that dosn't work either.
[10:31] <fdoving> Schalken: close yakuake with the X in in the lower right corner (of yakuake)
[10:31] <Arlington> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[10:31] <Arlington>   Major opcode:  148
[10:31] <fdoving> then it's kdesus fault.
[10:31] <Arlington>   Minor opcode:  3
[10:31] <Arlington>   Resource id:  0x0
[10:31] <Arlington> Failed to open device
[10:32] <Arlington> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[10:32] <fdoving> that's normal, has nothing to do with this.
[10:32] <Arlington>   Major opcode:  148
[10:32] <Arlington>   Minor opcode:  3
[10:32] <fdoving> please stop pasting.
[10:32] <Schalken> fdoving: okay how about to bring it back up again?
[10:32] <Arlington>   Resource id:  0x0
[10:32] <Arlington> Failed to open device
[10:32] <fdoving> Schalken: alt+f2 'yakuake' <enter>
[10:33] <Arlington> i'am sorry for that
[10:33] <fdoving> Arlington: sorry i had to remove you, please don't paste into the channel like that.
[10:33] <fdoving> no problem :)
[10:34] <fdoving> that error has nothing to do with adept. it's basically just X saying it can't contact some devices configured in xorg.conf, wacom tablet etc. just ignore it.
[10:34] <Schalken> fdoving: i was under the impression that yakuake is always running and shows itself when a certain shortcut key is pressed. isn't it?
[10:34] <Arlington> the problem is that when trying to install the slimserver through adept. adept hanged and i had to kill it and now it dosn't start.
[10:35] <Arlington> could it be related?
[10:35] <fdoving> Schalken: you can toggle view/hide with F12 (i think, is the default)..
[10:35] <fdoving> Schalken: if you close it with the X, it dies.
[10:35] <Schalken> fdoving: ahhhhhhhh thats what i wanted thanks
[10:35] <Schalken> :D
[10:35] <fdoving> !adept crash fix
[10:35] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:35] <fdoving> Arlington: try that ^^
[10:36] <fdoving> I have to go now, food -> work.'
[10:36] <fdoving> bye.
[10:46] <Arlington> any one here?
[10:46] <zorglu_> !baddevices
[10:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about baddevices - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <zorglu_> !baddevice
[10:47] <ubotu> baddevice is If you are getting errors similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168  Then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[10:47] <zorglu_> Arlington: this will help you removing the X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 you see
[10:55] <Arlington> i have this tar.gz file i wan't to install. how would i go about?
[10:58] <Arlington> i have this tar.gz file i wan't to install. how would i go about?
[11:01] <pacman> is the current java not good enough for the rest of the internet?
[11:03] <pacman> nobody home??
[11:04] <flaccid> pacman: the current java is fine
[11:05] <pacman> most of the stuff I try and access tells me its no good
[11:06] <flaccid> the error message is 'its no good' ?
[11:06] <pacman> no, says I don't have the latest version...but I do
[11:07] <flaccid> Arlington: its an archive. extract with a program like ark
[11:07] <flaccid> pacman: what version u using?
[11:07] <pacman> flash 7 for linux
[11:08] <flaccid> i thought you said java?
[11:08] <pacman> doh
[11:08] <flaccid> if you mean flash
[11:08] <pacman> shoot, I don't remember....
[11:08] <pacman> no, I meant java
[11:08] <flaccid> you can blame macromedia
[11:08] <pacman> and flash sucks too
[11:08] <flaccid> well java is fine
[11:09] <flaccid> what version you got and provide me a sample url that says you aint got the latest?
[11:10] <pacman> http://games.yahoo.com/games/login2?page=do&ss=1
[11:10] <pacman> all of the yahoo games
[11:11] <pacman> dunno which version I have...how do I find out
[11:11] <flaccid> try dpkg -l | grep -i sun-java
[11:12] <flaccid> or just java -version
[11:12] <flaccid> you prolly have the sun-java-jre ?
[11:12] <pacman> yeah, that's right
[11:13] <pacman> jre5 or something like that
[11:14] <pacman> sun-java5-bin, sun-java5-jre
[11:14] <flaccid> 1.5.06?
[11:14] <pacman> 1.5.0-06-1
[11:14] <flaccid> that is the latest
[11:14] <flaccid> let me try it out
[11:14] <pacman> k
[11:15] <flaccid> i'm not a member of yahoo unfortunately
[11:15] <pacman> ah
[11:15] <flaccid> but yeah 1.5 is latest
[11:15] <pacman> I'm just trying to find some cool games for my computer
[11:16] <pacman> everything I've tried is lame at best
[11:16] <flaccid> 1.4.8/1.4.2 is what people still develop on coz 1.5 is a lot different in arch
[11:16] <flaccid> sudo apt-get install nexuiz ppracer torcs knights
[11:16] <flaccid> there are a few
[11:16] <flaccid> that i like
[11:16] <flaccid> knights its online chess
[11:17] <flaccid> nexuiz is shoot em up. v nice
[11:17] <flaccid> ppracer is planet penguin racer. clone of tuxracer
[11:17] <flaccid> torcs is a car game
[11:18] <pacman> I've played ppracer
[11:18] <pacman> think I might have played torcs too
[11:18] <pacman> wish I could get simcity 3000 back, man I could kill hours with that
[11:19] <Tm_T> flaccid: ppracer is former tuxracer, not clone
[11:19] <flaccid> ah ok
[11:19] <flaccid> why the change in name then?
[11:20] <Tm_T> no idea
[11:20] <flaccid> ok
[11:21] <zorglu_> http://tremulous.net is nice too :)
[11:22] <pacman> man, it's late here
[11:24] <morghanphoenix> !ati
[11:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:24] <flaccid> zorglu_: tremulous looks mad
[11:25] <flaccid> how big is it
[11:25] <zorglu_> flaccid: what do you mean ?
[11:25] <zorglu_> big ? several people play it :)
[11:25] <flaccid> sorry mad = sick = very good
[11:25] <zorglu_> ah ok :)
[11:25] <zorglu_> it is very fun to play
[11:25] <zorglu_> i like it a lot. a 'modern' game in opensource and running on linux, window, macosx
[11:26] <zorglu_> very good to destress
[11:27] <flaccid> better than nexuiz?
[11:27] <zorglu_> i never played nexuiz
[11:27] <zorglu_> but try it, it is simple to install
[11:28] <flaccid> i have it installed
[11:28] <flaccid> i play it
[11:28] <flaccid> its good
[11:28] <zorglu_> cool :)
[11:33] <zorglu_> flaccid: tips,  get a good fps, it helps a lot to play well. you can tune the details to reach it :)
[11:33] <flaccid> yeah thats a gaming fundamental
[11:33] <flaccid> i'm on a notebook but its not too bad
[11:34] <janushead> hi
[11:34] <zorglu_> well i player for 2 months before finding out this fundamental :)
[11:35] <flaccid> hehe
[11:35] <janushead> question about printer installation with kaddprinterwizzard: after chosing the printer, it says drivers not found or insufficient access rights. is this a know issue?
[11:35] <janushead> using vanilla 6.06-64
[11:36] <zorglu_> tried "kdesu kaddprinterwizzard" ?
[11:44] <Arlington> anyone using slimserver?
[11:46] <janushead> zorglu_, i switched to sysadmin mode before.
[11:46] <janushead> zorglu_, after the problem i had to download the ppd-file myself and point to it. then everything was fine
[11:58] <twosouls82> hello there :)
[12:20] <cox377> Helllo all
[12:21] <cox377> this is not directly a kubuntu question, but i'm looking for a linux alternative to windows media center / xbox media center.!! does such a thing exist?
[12:23] <t0taln00b> of cos it's kubuntu
[12:23] <twosouls82> cox377: if you have a 'ivtv enabled' (ivtv is a driver) you can use mythtv :) much nicer than mc to be honest
[12:24] <twosouls82> s/ivtv enabled/ivtv enabled video card
[12:24] <twosouls82> http://www.mythtv.org/
[12:25] <twosouls82> and to get it all to work with dapper; http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html
[12:26] <cox377> cheers guys
[12:27] <twosouls82> :s video? tv card :)
[12:38] <MistaED> hey could someone tell me where kde stores its bootup stuff? i wanted to reduce kde's ram usage
[12:40] <Raul12> is SELinux is included in kubuntu ??
[12:40] <n3storm> anybody here is aware about the Kubuntu bug with Scribus?
[12:40] <cox377> twosouls82: just been looking @ mythtv and it looks great, so i just gotta get a ivtv enabled tv card?
[12:41] <Raul12> ???
[12:41] <Raul12> ......
[12:42] <Raul12> is SELinux is included in kubuntu
[12:43] <Raul12> can any 1 tell
[12:46] <n3storm> Raul12: apt-cache search selinux
[12:46] <bpm> may anyboda help me to get a ad-hoc connection between 6.06 and my pda
[12:46] <Raul12> k
[12:47] <bpm> i dont know how to start
[12:47] <bpm> iwconfig dont like me
[12:51] <t0taln00b> why doesnt it like u?
[12:53] <bpm> i tried: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid test mode Ad-Hoc key off
[12:54] <bpm> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26056/
[12:56] <t0taln00b> but what's ur problem?
[12:56] <bpm> i cant get a connection
[12:56] <bpm> i dont know where the problem is
[12:56] <bpm> i dont know where i have to search the problem
[12:58] <t0taln00b> hmm.. as far as i can see from ur pasted fragment on the aforementioned link u have a connection. it's odd
[12:59] <t0taln00b> it's odd that u cant connect :?
[01:04] <bpm> yeaaah i got it
[01:05] <bpm> my internal wlanchip was was not pluged well in its slot
[01:05] <bpm> so the card worked - dont worked - worked.....
[01:26] <niels_> Hi Folks!
[01:26] <niels_> Has anyone mad funny experiences doing an upgrade from Dapper to Etchy? I did an upograde just today and since the box wont start anymore
[01:27] <LeeJunFan_away> niels_: that's not really funny.
[01:27] <niels_> which means that it boots the kernel and once it gets through the module loading rpocess it freezes
[01:27] <niels_> LeeJunFan_away: No, its not - it was mor leikely menat sarcastic
[01:27] <LeeJunFan_away> niels_: are you sure you're booting edgy's new kernel?
[01:28] <twosouls82> cox377: sorry, I was showering :P but yep for mythtv you will need a tvcard supported by the ivtv driver, such as the Hauppauge PVR-150/250/350 and the MCE's too, if I am right
[01:28] <zombux-skola> kubuntu sucks
[01:28] <niels_> LeeJunFan_away: Yes, I am absolutely sure
[01:28] <LeeJunFan_away> niels_: does it freeze or does it say kernel panic can't mount rootfs?
[01:28] <niels_> LeeJunFan_away: it just freezes - I could sent you a snapshot
[01:28] <zombux-skola> how the hell do I control this
[01:29] <LeeJunFan_away> niels_: on my wifes computer after upgrading I had to specify the kernel option of noapic or hers would freeze as well. I didn't need that with dappers kernel.
[01:29] <LeeJunFan> niels_: sent to me how?
[01:29] <niels_> LeeJunFan: where do i have to do that? Basically I guess I will start the Box in recovery moide and then...?
[01:30] <niels_> LeeJunFan: by mail I would sent it
[01:30] <LeeJunFan> niels_: when you get the grub boot menu listing hit e, then highlight the kernel line and e again and add noapic to the end of options. To make it permanent you have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:31] <zombux-skola> hell-o
[01:31] <Nordir> zdar :D
[01:31] <zombux-skola> cus
[01:31] <zombux-skola> woknum zdar
[01:31] <LeeJunFan> niels_: oh, sry - you said sent and my brain must not have processed "could" when I read it :)
[01:31] <thool> zombux-skola: no lol :)
[01:31] <Nordir> thool: lol
[01:32] <zombux-skola> so, what's up with this?
[01:32] <zombux-skola> how do I install vncviewer?
[01:33] <LeeJunFan> zombux-skola: what's up with what? if you want any kind of intelligent response you'll need to provide more info explaining your issue with kubuntu.
[01:33] <zombux-skola> I downloaded it to my personal folder but I can not see it there
[01:33] <zombux-skola> seems pretty weird to me
[01:33] <niels_> LeeJunFan: its still freezing...*grrrr*
[01:33] <zombux-skola> even if I enable viewing hidden folders
[01:33] <LeeJunFan> zombux-skola: there's a program called krfb for kde you can install by using adept.
[01:33] <zombux-skola> hmm ok I will try it
[01:34] <LeeJunFan> zombux-skola: open adept and search for vnc you'll find a few different choices, also you probably want to enable universe and multiverse repositories.
[01:34] <LeeJunFan> !repos
[01:34] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:34] <zombux-skola> well I have VNC server at my remote PC but I need to connect to it
[01:34] <niels_> LeeJunFan: what will happen if I would reinstall Dapper? Will it format my hdd?
[01:35] <LeeJunFan> niels_: might want to try asking in #kubuntu-testers or #ubuntu+q
[01:35] <LeeJunFan> #ubuntu+1 that is
[01:35] <gnomefreak> niels_: thats up to you
[01:35] <LeeJunFan> niels_: yeah, well - you'd have the option to format, depending on how your hd is partitioned, it might not be so bad.
[01:36] <gnomefreak> niels_: the installer as any other installer did for ubuntu asks wher eyou wan tto install it
[01:37] <niels_> gnomefreak: basically I haven't made partitions for home or so
[01:39] <gnomefreak> niels_: save anything you _need_ to disk or something before doing anything
[01:39] <niels_> gnomefreak: how, if I am not getting anywhwhere, the system freezes right after the startup of Kubuntu?
[01:40] <gnomefreak> niels_: than i guess you dont
[01:40] <gnomefreak> niels_: maybe livecd
[01:40] <cox377> twosouls82: N1:)
[01:40] <gnomefreak> livecd should work or boot in safe mode
[01:40] <Ash-Fox> How does one start java webstart under Ubuntu? I tried 'javaws', but I get a 'Splash: sysCreateListenerSocket failed: No such file or directory'
[01:41] <KrAmMeR> whats a good history cleaning program?
[01:41] <gnomefreak> Ash-Fox: its in the menu atleast in gnome it is
[01:41] <niels_> gnomefreak: damn...I knew it sort of, but I thought, I was hoping that there could be another way to solve that prob
[01:42] <KrAmMeR> hmm
[01:42] <KrAmMeR> i will search
[01:42] <gnomefreak> niels_: there are lots of ways to solve it you can mount it from windows partition with help from outside apps
[01:43] <Ash-Fox> gnomefreak, hm, not starting from there either
[01:43] <gnomefreak> Ash-Fox: than i dont know i never use it (me and java dont like eachother
[01:44] <niels_> gnomefreak: If I would burn me an image of hda1 - would it have all files, you think? even the hidden ones of Thunderbird in which TB stores all the mail which I received?
[01:44] <Ash-Fox> What a pain
[01:44] <gnomefreak> niels_: should
[01:44] <gnomefreak> brb
[01:45] <niels_> gnomefreak: I'll give it a go
[01:46] <niels_> gno
[01:46] <niels_> gnomefreak: I'll let you folks know if worked out
[01:47] <Ash-Fox> Theres something really weird about the way java is packed on buntu distros, I'm considering getting it from sun because of weird JDK problems
[01:47] <Ash-Fox> (And now javaws)
[01:50] <cox377> twosouls82: , if you still about, what i was really after was a whole operating system, is there a way to have it as a OS kinda like smoothwall is as a router
[01:54] <hyper> hello abattoir :)
[01:58] <SeicherlBoB> i can't start a bash script from my desktop (just linking to the "programm"). is there a good way to execute shell-scripts from KDE-desktop?
[02:01] <tmdx120> Hello all. Why doesnt file sharing work in Dapper?
[02:04] <pielgrzym> !pastebin
[02:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:06] <hyper> got a small package problem... any suggestiosn?  http://www.phpfi.com/161775
[02:19] <yeti> hi
[02:19] <yeti> got a problem with kdesu, every app that involves kdesu takes ages to start, adept for example doesn't start at all
[02:20] <yeti> i just get a kdesu process hangig around in ps -aux doing nothing
[02:21] <shadowhywind> morning all, does anyone know how to fix a problem where files i put on a fat32 in linux wont show in windows?
[02:22] <Dr_willis> this on a hard drive in a linux box?
[02:23] <shadowhywind> yes. i have a fat32 partition to share files between windows and linux. I throw a few files and a folders onto it into linux, reboot back to windows and i can't see the files nor the folders
[02:24] <Dr_willis> were you seeing pre-existing files on the fat32 drive from linux - ?
[02:24] <Dr_willis> It almost sounds like you dident have it mounted. and you just copied things to the /media/wheveritwassupposedtobemounted dir.
[02:25] <partack__> Noob question for someone who will take pity on this poor Linux Iliterate..  is there some fancy command to quickly install 'QT' ? or do i have to download it untar it and all that stuff?  yknow.. something along the lines of sudo apt-get install QT or something?
[02:25] <tmdx120> hi, can one use heterogenous memory cards in a dual slot laptop?
[02:25] <Dr_willis> partack__,   by 'qt' what are you wanting?  KDE uses the QT libs..
[02:26] <yeti> partack__: what the...? QT is installed whenever you install kubuntu
[02:26] <tmdx120> for example 512 in one slot and 1024 in another?
[02:26] <Dr_willis> so they are allready there.. if you want the Developer stuff.. fire up the package manager and search for 'qt' look for stuff with -dev in the names
[02:26] <shadowhywind> no i believe it is mounted, becuase i can see the changes i make from windows *i believe*
[02:26] <partack__> oh really?  are they compiled with thread support?
[02:26] <Dr_willis> shadowhywind,  i would double check..ive  never heard of you rproblem befor.
[02:26] <shadowhywind> i am going to go check.. hehe
[02:27] <Dr_willis> ive used that mount 'feature' to hide things befor. :P
[02:27] <yeti> partack__, nfi, but why would you so desperately need thread support for qt?
[02:27] <shadowhywind> the reason why i say it is mounted is becuase couple of files that i pasted into a different directory is there
[02:27] <Dr_willis> copy things to /mnr/cantfindme  , then mount somthing over /mnt/cantfindme :)
[02:27] <partack__> lol.. Qtella.
[02:27] <Dr_willis> shadowhywind,  Hmm.. I would guess that you some how miss-copied the files then.
[02:28] <yeti> partack__, well, just try it, if it doesn't work, it's probably not ;)
[02:28] <partack__> well i did but i got
[02:28] <partack__> Qt's moc not found! If you have installed Qt in an
[02:28] <partack__> unusual place, please use the "--with-qt-moc=" option
[02:29] <chab> how does linux react to a change in hardware, specifically, dvd/cd-drives?
[02:29] <yeti> chab: should not be any problem at all
[02:29] <yeti> partack__, oh, sorry, can't help you then, check google and ubuntuforums for qt moc
[02:29] <Dr_willis> unless ya put it on a different ide cable/slot/thang.
[02:29] <Dr_willis> then the letter may change.
[02:30] <Dr_willis> hdb may become hdd i mean. :)
[02:30] <partack__> *nod* okay =) i thought i'd ask first jsut in-case this was generic.
[02:30] <chab> Dr_willis: the plan is, throwing out hdd, hdc->hdd, new hdc :)
[02:30] <partack__> thank you ^-^
[02:32] <chab> yeti: think k3b will notice the difference on its own?
[02:32] <Dr_willis> chab,  k3b has a 'setup' program. soit should be fine
[02:32] <tmdx120> Hi Doc.
[02:32] <chab> ok. good. thanks.
[02:33] <Dr_willis> so you will move 1 cdrom, and then put in a NEWER cdrom in its place? so ya still have 2 drives?
[02:33] <chab> Dr_willis: yes
[02:33] <yeti> by the way, why is konqueror so slow compared to firefox? do i miss some important option?
[02:33] <Dr_willis> should be fine
[02:33] <Dr_willis> go ask in #kde :P and get yelled at.. Lol..
[02:33] <Dr_willis> Ive never noticed it being slower.
[02:34] <chab> Dr_willis: I'll remove my cd-burner(hdd), put my dvd-burner in its new place (hdc->hdd), and put a new dvd-burner in as hdc
[02:34] <yeti> Dr_willis: it's really much slower... i'm waiting like 30 seconds for (11 of 15 images loaded) on ubuntuforums - and it starts rendering text only when it has preloaded all the images, which is really really annoying
[02:35] <yeti> Dr_willis: i'd love to give konqueror a try cause i heard it was really well integrated with lots of media plugins in kubuntu, but the way it is, it's just unusable
[02:35] <Dr_willis> ubuntuforims can be a real real real pain at times.
[02:35] <Dr_willis> I just use firefox for my browser most of the time. :P i got too many extensiions for it i like
[02:36] <yeti> Dr_willis, what plugins for firefox do you use to play videos and video streams?
[02:37] <Dr_willis> yeti,  very few. :P
[02:37] <Evil003> hi im trying to install kubuntu on a powerbook g4 i got the cd to boot but it stopped at ubuntu@ubuntu:`$  what do i type from here to make the os boot?
[02:37] <Dr_willis> I do have one that can download videos from some sites.. so i can watch them offline.
[02:37] <yeti> Dr_willis: oh. lol. okay ;)
[02:38] <Dr_willis> yeti,  i like the adblocking, and greasemonkey addons
[02:39] <yeti> by the way, does anyone know an option how to 'mount' tar-files or at least how to get some files from a .tar (uncompressed) without having to unpack the whole archive?
[02:39] <m4x1mum> !avi
[02:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:42] <yeti> m4x1mum: thanks, but all the solutions concerning firefox require totem, which requires all of the gnome libs :) might give it a try anyways though, i know mplayerplug-in, but don't like it too much
[02:47] <Evil003> could someone please tell me what i should type when it says unbuntu@ubuntu:~$ so i can boot the system?
[02:48] <yeti> Evil003: where and when does it say so?
[02:50] <Evil003> right now on my screen it says ( to run a command as administrator (user "root"), use sudo <command> see "man sudo_root" for details then it says ubuntu!ubuntu:~$
[02:50] <Evil003> i mean ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ^^^
[02:51] <Dr_willis> Evil003,  if you can type.. then some how - it is booted.
[02:51] <Dr_willis> just seems the installer dident start. which is odd.
[02:51] <Evil003> it doesnt have a gui?
[02:51] <Dr_willis> yes it does.
[02:51] <Dr_willis> what OS was on that machine befor?
[02:51] <Evil003> osx
[02:51] <Evil003> its an apple powerbook g4
[02:52] <yeti> is there a metapackage i can install to get all of the fancy toolchain stuff like gcc, ld, as etc?
[02:52] <Dr_willis> so you have some Unallocated space to install ubuntu to?
[02:52] <Dr_willis> yeti,  build-essential
[02:52] <yeti> Dr_willis: thanks
[02:52] <Evil003> i should cant i just run it off the cd? instead of installing
[02:52] <Evil003> it^^
[02:53] <yeti> no you can't, you'd need a liveCD, not an installCD
[02:53] <Dr_willis> Evil003,  Not sure about how the livdcd works on Macs.. or even if it works at all.
[02:53] <Evil003> im using the desktop cd
[02:53] <Dr_willis> I wonder if theres a #ubuntuPPC channel  or check the Ubuntu FOrums/wikis
[02:54] <tmdx120> Why can I to a share files on Dapper?
[02:54] <Evil003> am i using the wrong cd? or witch one is the install cd i need to download
[02:56] <Dr_willis> tmdx120,  samba for ubuntu->winows shareing, or ssh/scp/winscp is easier to setup
[02:56] <gpeek> tmdx120: whay do you mean?
[02:56] <Dr_willis> Evil003,  no idea.. my onmy mac is in the closet.  I suggest asking in #ubuntu, or #ubuntuppc
[02:56] <Evil003> ok thanks
[02:57] <tmdx120> Im not sharing window. My SOHO is stricty linux
[02:57] <Dr_willis> tmdx120,  then use scp
[02:57] <Dr_willis> or nfs if you want perment shared directories.
[02:57] <Dr_willis> or ya could use samba if you want. :)
[02:57] <tmdx120> Dr_willis: scp?
[02:58] <Dr_willis> scp - ssh's copy command.
[02:58] <tmdx120> LOL! Ok, now I have to go RTFM. LOL
[02:58] <Dr_willis> or use the  fish:\ kioslave feature of KDE's file manager to access the remote machines via ssh
[02:59] <m4x1mum> can kaffein play dvd?
[02:59] <wrabbit^> yes
[02:59] <Dr_willis> You can use the fish kioslave like this: fish://hostname or fish://username@hostname.
[02:59] <shadowhywind> ok so i just unmounted my fat32 and remounted it (in linux) and now i have like 70 .rec files
[03:00] <Dr_willis> shadowhywind,  you are using windows xp on that box?
[03:00] <shadowhywind> yah, duel booting
[03:00] <Dr_willis> You realize theres a tool for XP that lets it read/write to ext2/3 filesystems? :P
[03:01] <Dr_willis> fs-driver.org
[03:01] <shadowhywind> no i didn't hehe
[03:01] <Dr_willis> the use of a fat32 'data-swap' has been tossed out the window for me. :)
[03:01] <tmdx120> Dr_willis: silly newbie question, how do I determine my hostname?
[03:01] <Dr_willis> i stillgot NO idea how you were scresing that up.
[03:01] <Dr_willis> tmdx120,  hostname command. :)
[03:02] <Dr_willis> willis@Audigy:~$ hostname
[03:02] <Dr_willis> Audigy
[03:02] <Dr_willis> or its in my BASH prompt. :)
[03:02] <tmdx120> Dr_willis: Thanks!
[03:02] <shadowhywind> so minus my fat32 issue, does anyone know about random fsckxxxx.rec files?
[03:03] <tmdx120> Dr_willis: so I can type that on my other comuter to acces the one I want?
[03:03] <Dr_willis> sounds like the drive was not  cleanly unmounted/written to -  or fsck checked it and found it lacking. :P
[03:03] <Dr_willis> tmdx120,  type what where?
[03:04] <tmdx120> Ok, I want my laptop to access my desktop files.
[03:04] <Dr_willis> fish://username@hostname          - is for the KDE file manager - its a Konqueroer feature
[03:04] <shadowhywind> it seams to do this everytime i boot linux, any ideas on how to stop them from creating
[03:04] <Dr_willis> shadowhywind,  you may want to check the fstab entry for your fat32 drive.
[03:05] <shadowhywind> vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[03:05] <shadowhywind> it looks right
[03:06] <Dr_willis> uft8 ? Hmm
[03:06] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[03:06] <Dr_willis> may want to look at their examples there.. i dont have any vfat partitiosn to check with
[03:06] <Dr_willis> i dont think you want 0 1
[03:06] <Dr_willis> but i forget what those #'s do :)
[03:06] <shadowhywind> funny thing is this is the default setup from install
[03:07] <Dr_willis> o got 0 1 also..hmm
[03:07] <Dr_willis> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[03:07] <Dr_willis> for my ntfs drive
[03:07] <shadowhywind> my mtab says 0 0
[03:09] <mindspin> I'd like to lay around a bit with kino, but the program doesn't load ani media files, (avi, mpg) do I have to change the format in advance?
[03:09] <shadowhywind> brb
[03:09] <mindspin> play even
[03:11] <m4x1mum> whats a better player than kaffeine?
[03:11] <yeti> m4x1mum: kaffeine is pretty good imho. for DVDs, i also like vlc (videolan.org)
[03:13] <m4x1mum> do you know how to make it able to play avi, mkv and those stuff? i dont really understand the  website given by that ubotu bot
[03:13] <mindspin> !codecs
[03:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:13] <mindspin> there you'll find information
[03:13] <mindspin> you have to install the specific codecs
[03:15] <shadowhywind> ok so i added a file, unmounted and remounted, shutdown linux booted in windows and still nodda, any ideas?
[03:16] <m4x1mum> anyone know a software that can limit the bandwidth of application?
[03:16] <shadowhywind> trickle
[03:17] <m4x1mum> aaaah thanks
[03:19] <shadowhywind> anychance could it be file permissions screwing up on me?
[03:19] <Dr_willis> shadowhywind,  i doubt it..
[03:19] <mindspin> shadowhywind: can you explain what you are doing, I did not read your first questions
[03:20] <shadowhywind> i have a duelboot system. I have a fat32 partition that i create a folder or files in linux, wheni boot into windows and go to the partition, i can not see the files nor the folder
[03:20] <mindspin> in windows
[03:21] <shadowhywind> nod
[03:21] <shadowhywind> but in a werid twist, some files that i put into a different directory is there
[03:21] <mindspin> you have "show all folders" enabled?
[03:22] <shadowhywind> yes
[03:23] <mindspin> have you tried copying the files into "existing" i.e. "windows"directories?
[03:23] <m4x1mum> show hidden file
[03:23] <shadowhywind> that does work
[03:24] <shadowhywind> but creating a folder in linux, or just creating files in the partition doesn't show in windows, Only shows in windows "made" directories
[03:24] <mindspin> could be a permission thing , did you chmod the directories and its contetn to 777 ?
[03:25] <shadowhywind> no not yet, i was going to try that but you started talking *snickers*
[03:25] <mindspin> is it a partition used by both os or say a "special" partitiuon where you want to have your linux files ?
[03:25] <shadowhywind> its used by both
[03:26] <mindspin> so the partition itself is recognized by windows
[03:26] <shadowhywind> i have windows programs, firefox profiles, and stuff like that
[03:26] <shadowhywind> yup
[03:26] <flaccid> isn't it a fat32 partition
[03:26] <flaccid> you can't chmod 777 on fat
[03:26] <shadowhywind> it is a fat32
[03:26] <mindspin> what can you do permission-related ?
[03:27] <flaccid> there is none on fat
[03:27] <mindspin> so permission is not the point ?
[03:27] <flaccid> shadowhywind: you need windows help.
[03:27] <mindspin> yeh ;-)
[03:27] <flaccid> you can set umask etc. when mounting the part. with linux
[03:28] <reisi> how do i know which methods are actually implemented by the SimpleXMLElement?
[03:28] <mindspin> as workaround, create a folder Linux (in win) and move all your stugff there
[03:28] <shadowhywind> ok, thanks

[03:29] <reisi> fuck, wrong window
[03:29] <flaccid> hehe thought so
[03:29] <flaccid> what language?
[03:31] <flaccid> java prolly
[03:32] <m4x1mum> is there a software that monitor network activity?
[03:32] <m4x1mum> a gui ones?
[03:32] <flaccid> in what way
[03:32] <flaccid> bandwidth meter
[03:32] <flaccid> or snmp?
[03:32] <m4x1mum> bandwidth meter
[03:32] <flaccid> i recommend knetstats
[03:33] <flaccid> kde-apps.org
[03:33] <flaccid> have to compile but
[03:33] <m4x1mum> what!!
[03:34] <flaccid> there is others
[03:34] <flaccid> i can't think of the one that comes with ubuntu
[03:34] <flaccid> sorry
[03:34] <mindspin> etherreal?
[03:36] <flaccid> yeah m4x1mum if you want something more than an icon and a graph get ethereal like mindspin said
[03:37] <m4x1mum> ok
[03:39] <vlt> Hello, I have a strange problem with kubuntu dapper 6.06: One user just told me his keyboard was broken. He already tried to solve it by rebooting but he still couldn't write any chars in his office app. I asked him how he managed to login with broken kbd ... which led us to the interesting fact that not the kbd itself was broken but KDE didn't accept any keys. Only [space]  and [backspace]  are working, and if I press CTRL+ALT+F1 the help function
[03:39] <vlt>  is activated. While logged in as another user the keyboard works w/o problems. I couldn't find any changes In system settings -> keyboard layout: 105intl,de. When I log in as this one user via vnc all keys work. The output of `xev` shows that the pressed keys are properly recognized by X server but not interpreted by KDE. What's wrong here?
[03:40] <flaccid> create a new user
[03:40] <flaccid> login as that user
[03:40] <flaccid> see if you have the same problem
[03:41] <flaccid> if that works, then there is a file to delete in kde profile. if it doesn't work then its a more major issue.
[03:41] <vlt> flaccid: I tested the behavior with another (already existing) user. It works fins.
[03:41] <vlt> s/fins/fine
[03:41] <shadowhywind1> your all going to hurt me.. i "fixed" my problem
[03:41] <flaccid> try a new one
[03:41] <flaccid> you can't hurt on irc
[03:42] <shadowhywind1> and you were right it was a windows problem
[03:42] <shuan> i used to use ubuntu now i have intalled kubuntu anyone know how i can access the add applications? i need to use the dictionary aswell
[03:42] <flaccid> coool
[03:42] <shadowhywind1> my problem was i was bringing windows back from hibernation, as soon as i restarted windows everything was there
[03:43] <msm_> hi all!
[03:43] <flaccid> ok
[03:43] <msm_> there is someone who can help me, Please?
[03:44] <flaccid> sure msm
[03:44] <flaccid> shuan: you want to add applications?
[03:44] <shuan> yes
[03:44] <flaccid> !adept
[03:44] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[03:44] <flaccid> try that
[03:44] <msm_> I'm finding a way to launch every application in Kubuntu using kdesu without promt it anytime
[03:44] <msm_> ther is a way?
[03:45] <flaccid> msm: not on ubuntu
[03:45] <msm_> then i have to launch every app fro run command prompt or modify evry command adding kdesu???
[03:46] <flaccid> why don't you run them normally?
[03:46] <msm_> sorry for my english ;)
[03:46] <flaccid> why do you require root access to every application?
[03:46] <yeti> what identd do you guys use? i used to use fakeidentd, but i see it's not in the ubuntu repositories
[03:47] <shuan> anyone know how i can acccess the dictionary
[03:47] <msm_> in example I use eclipse to develop some mine applications. When I compile my Tomcat project I have no permission to access tomcat folders
[03:48] <msm_> the same happens when I use konqueror.. and more
[03:48] <shuan> anyone used ubuntu before kubuntu
[03:48] <flaccid> msm_: you need to add your user to the group those files/dirs use
[03:49] <flaccid> shuan: which dictionary?
[03:49] <shuan> well
[03:49] <shuan> ubuntu has a dictionary
[03:49] <shuan> kubuntu has a few less things than ubuntu
[03:49] <shuan> im goin back
[03:49] <shuan> kubuntu looks nice an all
[03:49] <shuan> but its not for me
[03:50] <flaccid> if you find the name you can probably install it
[03:50] <flaccid> im sorry i havnt used the dictionary
[03:50] <shuan> its jus called dictionary
[03:50] <shuan> i tried to install it through package manager
[03:50] <flaccid> yeah its from a dif source
[03:50] <flaccid> let me have a look
[03:51] <msm_> flaccid: now i'm viewing a group "sudo". Associating my userID to this group can help me?
[03:51] <flaccid> msm_: what is the own and group of the files and folders you need access to?
[03:52] <hyper> how can I setup remote desktopping so that I can connect at work (with a window box) to my kubuntu machine?
[03:52] <msm_> flaccid: owner is root
[03:52] <flaccid> shuan: there is kdict
[03:52] <hyper> msm: why do you want to joing teh sudo group?
[03:52] <flaccid> msm_: group?
[03:52] <shuan> that will do
[03:52] <n8k99> hyper: i believe that you need to run krfb
[03:53] <m4x1mum> aaah i found a nice lightweight software, knetdock hehehe
[03:53] <flaccid> yep thats the one
[03:53] <flaccid> but i prefer knetstats myself
[03:53] <dennister> g'mornng
[03:53] <flaccid> evening
[03:53] <msm_> flaccid: I don't know. I've believed that this group allow me to work with permission on root files/directories..
[03:54] <dennister> flaccid: sorry about last night
[03:54] <flaccid> msm_: is this on a local partition or mounted network share?
[03:54] <msm_> flaccid: local partition
[03:54] <hyper> n8k99: thx :) looking at it
[03:54] <flaccid> and the owner of the files you need is sudo?
[03:54] <n8k99> hyper: you may need to send yourself an email invitation
[03:55] <hyper> n8k99: Remote Desktopping is way nice for doing certain things than just SSH :)
[03:55] <msm_> flaccid: the owner is root. I've install as root using sudo
[03:55] <flaccid> msm_: ok
[03:55] <sredna> Hm, no kde 3.5.5 packages yet?
[03:55] <hyper> msm_: it's better to give yourself temporary sudo rigths and joining the sudo group
[03:55] <flaccid> msm_: change the group of the files to your user
[03:55] <vlt> flaccid: I added a new user and logged in to KDE. The keyboard works without problems.
[03:55] <yeti> can i remove MDADM from all runlevels if i do not have lvm/softraid?
[03:56] <n8k99> hyper: yeah i know, i control my Mac Mini through Krdc even as it is only ten feet away!!
[03:56] <m4x1mum> !avi
[03:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:56] <msm_> flaccid: I think that I have sudo rights cause I can use sudo command!
[03:56] <dennister> !java
[03:56] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:56] <flaccid> vlt: ok. have you had any other loss of config for any applications or any other problems?
[03:56] <dennister> !adept
[03:56] <flaccid> msm_: thats right. because you are in the admin group. so change the group of the files to either your user or admin
[03:56] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[03:57] <msm_> flaccid: Sorry, I'm new by linux and kubuntu
[03:57] <vlt> flaccid: No. Didn't notice any.
[03:57] <flaccid> ok let me find that filename
[03:57] <m4x1mum> i just need to install these on kubuntu right?  libxine-extracodecs, w32codecs, libarts1-mpeglib, libarts1-xine, libakode2-mpeg
[03:57] <m4x1mum> no need to worry about the media player?
[03:57] <hyper> n8k99: you're too lazy ^^
[03:58] <dennister> adept is locked up again by incomplete java installs
[03:58] <dennister> :-(
[03:58] <n8k99> hyper: you could say that! :)
[03:58] <msm_> flaccid: Can I give permission on usr folder? Every subfolder inherit from usr?
[03:58] <dennister> <------forgot how to remove them from cache
[03:58] <m4x1mum> my adept also lock up frequently dont know why :(
[03:59] <dennister> i know why: bad installs; u have to clear em from cache
[03:59] <flaccid> msm_: do not do that to /usr
[03:59] <dennister> but i forgot how
[04:00] <flaccid> vlt: hmm not sure which file it is
[04:00] <msm_> flaccid: I try to add "sudo" to Group field in tab "Permission" in folder property. You suggest me to do that only on needed folders?
[04:01] <flaccid> msm_: no change the group of the files to admin
[04:01] <flaccid> then you do not have to sudo
[04:01] <khirr> ello
[04:01] <khirr> how coul i change my desktop theme?
[04:01] <m4x1mum> libxine-extracodecs, w32codecs, libarts1-mpeglib, libarts1-xine, libakode2-mpeg <-- this will enable kaffeine to play avi?
[04:02] <flaccid> khirr: goto kmenu > system settings > appearance
[04:02] <khirr> where can i see?
[04:02] <n8k99> khirr: system settings>appearance
[04:02] <msm_> flaccid: well! Thank you. You think that may be dangerous to grant permission (change group) on folder usr/lib?
[04:02] <hyper> n8k99: Is just one port being used? I remember VNC on Windoze required two ports being forwarded
[04:02] <msm_> flaccid: It may cause an instable system?
[04:02] <khirr> i'm doing that
[04:03] <flaccid> msm_: yes do not do that. leave that in tact. you can change group on /usr/lib/subfolder/* but not /usr/lib/*
[04:03] <n8k99> hyper: when you are coming into your linux box, I believe it is just one port
[04:03] <flaccid> n8k99: vnc is usually 1 port being 5900 by default
[04:03] <dennister> k; found the place to remove em from cache
[04:03] <hyper> n8k99: thx :)
[04:03] <dennister> bb soon
[04:04] <flaccid> oops i meant hyper..
[04:04] <hyper> ^^
[04:04] <n8k99> hyper: your protocol will be VNC into the linux box like flaccid said
[04:04] <khirr> i've seen screenshots where there are some information in the desktop about your pc (for example ram, disk space) and looked like nice
[04:04] <khirr> how could i do that with my desktop?
[04:04] <m4x1mum> libxine-extracodecs, libarts1-mpeglib, libarts1-xine, libakode2-mpeg <-- is this for kaffeine?
[04:04] <flaccid> !vnc
[04:04] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[04:04] <flaccid> ^
[04:05] <n8k99> khirr: i think that is called konqi
[04:05] <khirr> ?
[04:05] <khirr> what's that?
[04:05] <msm_> flaccid: All right! Thanks for your help. I try to do this. At next time. Sorry another time for my english. I'm italian, where are you from?
[04:05] <flaccid> australia mate
[04:05] <n8k99> khirr: a program that puts all the sysinfo on your desktop - but i could be wrong
[04:06] <khirr> why?
[04:06] <n8k99> khirr: " i've seen screenshots where there are some information in the desktop about your pc (for example ram, disk space) and looked like nice"
[04:07] <n8k99> khirr: or do you mean "why could you be wrong?"
[04:07] <khirr> yep
[04:07] <hyper> n8k99/flaccid: is it 5900 tcp or udp?
[04:09] <khirr> ?
[04:09] <dragonfire1> test
[04:09] <flaccid> tcp
[04:09] <n8k99> hyper: i amnot certain
[04:10] <hyper_> back again
[04:10] <n8k99> khirr: i could be wrong- because, well, a whole slew of reasons, but in this case because I only remember such a package from the customization forum
[04:11] <flaccid> my x11vnc. issued command fuser -v 5900/tcp. result: 5900/tcp:            flaccid   20304 F.... x11vnc
[04:11] <flaccid> if you are doing remote vnc with no encryption. consider over ssh or vpn.
[04:12] <khirr> i'd like can have my desktop as screenshots, them looked like nice
[04:12] <khirr> ;=
[04:12] <flaccid> i'm sleeping
[04:12] <flaccid> cia0
[04:13] <flaccid> n8k99: actually its both udp and tcp for most vnc servers i believe
[04:13] <flaccid> 5900/udp:            flaccid   20304 F.... x11vnc
[04:13] <khirr> how could i download software for my kubuntu distribution, i dunno, i use to download sft for mi OS, but never can install
[04:13] <khirr> are no the correct to  my OS
[04:13] <khirr> how can i know that this "version" of software is for me?
[04:14] <mindspin> adept is your friend
[04:14] <n8k99> khirr: you can use a program called adept to download and install new packages from teh kubuntu repositories
[04:14] <n8k99> flaccid: thanx mate!
[04:14] <khirr> where can get that program?
[04:14] <mindspin> its already installed
[04:14] <hyper_> khirr: adept should already be installed :)
[04:14] <khirr> i'll chek
[04:14] <n8k99> khirr:look in your kmenu under system, should be first on the list
[04:15] <khirr> is Spanish version my kubuntu
[04:15] <mindspin> menu->system->adept
[04:15] <hyper_> !spanish
[04:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spanish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:15] <mindspin> !es
[04:15] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:15] <hyper_> ^^
[04:15] <hyper_> close to it :)
[04:16] <n8k99> hyper:brilliant!! ;-)
[04:16] <khirr> but, if i wanna install emule, opera or other soft, what can i do?
[04:16] <m4x1mum> alright videos work!!
[04:17] <mindspin> n8k99: when you open it, there's a search field, type in name or keyword for the program and adept shows the software
[04:17] <mindspin> hehe
[04:17] <m4x1mum> you can install opera by downloading from opera website, make sure you download the one for ubuntu
[04:17] <mindspin> khirr:  already
[04:17] <khirr> what?
[04:18] <khirr> i cant found opera with that program
[04:18] <mindspin> no worrys, I m a bit lost ;-)
[04:18] <m4x1mum> just get it from opera's website, they have the distribution for ubuntu/kubuntu
[04:18] <mindspin> isn't opera in the "commercial repository" I'm not sure
[04:19] <khirr> but, i cant install
[04:19] <n8k99> khirr: you may need to edit your sources.list in order to allow the non-free packages
[04:19] <khirr> for example for opera
[04:19] <khirr> what should i add in my line?
[04:19] <khirr> what line shoul i agree?
[04:20] <m4x1mum> right click the .deb > kubuntu package menu > install package
[04:20] <n8k99> khirr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?highlight=%28repositories%29
[04:21] <khirr> thanks
[04:21] <sdculver> Anybody know where mark shuttleworth is chatting?
[04:21] <mindspin> add this to your /apt/sources.list  "http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main" (when you on dapper ;-)
[04:22] <m4x1mum> what software i nedd to display subtitle files? .sub or .idx files?
[04:22] <n8k99> sdculver: sabdfl is not online alot- world domination and all that
[04:23] <mindspin> !seen sabdfl
[04:23] <ubotu> sabdfl is on IRC right now!
[04:23] <sdculver> where?
[04:24] <khirr> deb http://mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl/ dapper-seveas freenx
[04:24] <khirr> ?
[04:24] <khirr> what direction should i put?
[04:24] <khirr> for example to opera
[04:25] <zorglu_> [16:23]  <mindspin> add this to your /apt/sources.list  "http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main" (when you on dapper ;-)
[04:25] <mindspin> after you had added the pasted line above to your file
[04:25] <mindspin> update in adept and opera is shown when you type opera in the search field
[04:26] <mindspin> then you klick on install and you should be fine
[04:26] <zblach> hey all. ndiswrapper and eft beta. how's that working out?
[04:26] <khirr> a litle confuse (:(
[04:26] <mindspin> khirr: you have adept open ?
[04:26] <khirr> yes
[04:27] <mindspin> ok I'll guide you
[04:27] <khirr> thank you so much
[04:28] <mindspin> if you klick on adept (the first entry in the menu at top) you see something like "edit sources" klick on it
[04:28] <khirr> edit sources?
[04:29] <mindspin> right
[04:29] <mindspin> or manage packet sources
[04:29] <mindspin> I#m on a german system ;-)
[04:29] <khirr> my is in spanish :D
[04:30] <mindspin> so what is the second entry called?
[04:30] <khirr> i'm in one menu that say New Repository
[04:30] <mindspin> ok
[04:30] <khirr> what should i do here?
[04:30] <mindspin> klick on it , you'll see a list of lines, similiar to the one I posted
[04:30] <mindspin> http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[04:30] <zorglu_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu <- for a step by step guide on how to add new repository
[04:31] <mindspin> hehe we could do it privately, but its not much traffic in here..
[04:31] <khirr> ok
[04:32] <khirr> i cant ...
[04:32] <mindspin> khirr: paste the line into the field beneath th list
[04:32] <khirr> say a mess
[04:32] <zorglu_> my intention was not to push you away, more to let you know
[04:32] <scott_> I have been trying to install java through the multiuniverse...and still having troubles...can anyone help me out here?
[04:32] <khirr> say
[04:32] <khirr> comment
[04:33] <khirr> ?
[04:34] <Vulc4n> hey
[04:34] <scott_> can anyone give me a few moments on java installation?
[04:34] <khirr> mindspin?
[04:34] <Vulc4n> I'm having an issue wih KDE not starting on my installation
[04:34] <Vulc4n> I get a mouse cursor and hen nothing else
[04:35] <m4x1mum> is there any gui bandwidth limitter?
[04:35] <Vulc4n> hmmm?
[04:35] <scott_> how good are you at java installation vulc?
[04:36] <Vulc4n> I probably can'thelp you
[04:36] <Vulc4n> I don't have much experience in linux
[04:36] <scott_> anyone else good with java installation?
[04:36] <zorglu_> m4x1mum: not that i know of, why do you want that ?
[04:36] <zorglu_> scott_: describe your problem
[04:37] <m4x1mum> well because my internet connection is shared by 3 pc, thats why
[04:37] <scott_> I can get into adept manager...but can not get it to take a multi universe setting
[04:37] <m4x1mum> i want something similar to netlimiter in windows if you know what it is
[04:37] <scott_> at least...that is what I think I am supposed to do?
[04:38] <m4x1mum> scott_ you need to edit the repository manager, add universe and multiverse then click apply
[04:38] <zorglu_> m4x1mum: it is possible to have bw limiter, but not easy to setup. it is called queue discipline on linux
[04:38] <zorglu_> !info tc
[04:38] <ubotu> Package tc does not exist in any distro I know
[04:39] <scott_> I understand...but when I do that the main restricted under components keeps coming back
[04:39] <m4x1mum> scott_ did you add a new line or append to the current line?
[04:39] <zorglu_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu <- scott_ have you tried tih
[04:39] <zorglu_> this
[04:39] <scott_> I tried to append the current line
[04:40] <m4x1mum> hmm it should work though, cause i did that as well
[04:40] <m4x1mum> you need to click the apply button before doing any fetch updates
[04:40] <Vulc4n> so anyone have any ideas for me to try to get KDE to load?
[04:41] <zorglu_> m4x1mum: http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.qdisc.html <- is a link on how to do it. it is far from easy tho
[04:41] <zorglu_> m
[04:42] <zorglu_> apparently nobody is able to write a 'good' tool on top of iptable and tc
[04:42] <zorglu_> not that i know of at least
[04:43] <m4x1mum> lol ooh well, thats means im stuck with the console software that limits bandwidth as a whole, instead of individual software :(
[04:45] <cpk2> firestarter supposedly is pretty good for managing iptables
[04:47] <kumsy> which is the fastest torrent client in kubuntu
[04:49] <visik7> !apport
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apport - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <scott_> ok...I got the universe multiverse activated...now how to I enable java?
[04:49] <rambo3> ask ubotu
[04:49] <rambo3> send priv
[04:50] <visik7> scott_: aptitude install sun-java5-bin sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[04:50] <ccc> kumsy: ktorrent is the best kde bittorrent client IMO. but use the latest kubuntu deb from ktorrent.org
[04:50] <m4x1mum> im interested in torrent client too!, azureus is too bloated and ktorrent is not that configurable
[04:50] <m4x1mum> the best i've seen is utorrent but only for windows
[04:50] <ccc> kumsy: instead of the one in repos, that is
[04:50] <scott_> type that in a terminal?
[04:50] <prague> hi all. i recently updated kubuntu 5.10 and lost the kde menu for my network settings. System Settings -> Network -  how can I restore this?
[04:51] <zorglu_> !java > scott_
[04:51] <Vulc4n> I'm still stuck at that blank creen with just a mouse cursor
[04:51] <ccc> m4x1mum: what settings do you miss in ktorrent?
[04:51] <Vulc4n> is there a way to switch to a console?
[04:51] <zorglu_> ccc: how do you make it download automatically in a given directory instread of asking to the destination directory for each torrent ?
[04:51] <scott_> explain that for me zorglu?
[04:52] <zorglu_> !java
[04:52] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:52] <rambo3> what was it ctrl+alt+f7
[04:52] <ccc> Vulc4n: yes, ctrl+alt+f1... and ctrl+alt+f7 to get back
[04:52] <zorglu_> scott_: this link explein how to install java
[04:53] <ccc> zorglu_: it's in the settings, "Automatically save downloads to:"
[04:54] <zorglu_> ccc: i already got this one configured, but it still ask me...
[04:54] <ccc> zorglu_: at least in version 2.0.2
[04:54] <shuan> hello
[04:54] <zorglu_> ccc: i run the 1.2 version... this may explain the bug
[04:55] <ccc> zorglu_: indeed :)
[04:55] <ccc> that's very old
[04:55] <shuan> anyone know why kubuntu will not recognize my cellphone memory card
[04:55] <zorglu_> !info ktorrent
[04:55] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 738 kB, installed size 2964 kB
[04:55] <zorglu_> cc
[04:55] <ccc> zorglu_: get the kubuntu deb from ktorrent.org
[04:55] <zorglu_> ccc: still the last available on dapper :)
[04:56] <zorglu_> yep i willhtanks
[04:56] <m4x1mum> aaah no wonder, my ktorrent is outdated thats why its missing out functionality compared with other clients
[04:57] <nuku> the latest ktorrent is in dapper-backports...
[04:57] <ccc> oh, it's in backports now
[04:57] <Vulc4n> ccc: what id ctrl + alt + F1 does nothing?
[04:58] <m4x1mum> say, if my cpu is amd64, i should download the amd64?
[04:58] <zblach> anyone get ndiswrapper to work?
[04:58] <m4x1mum> or does that amd64 simply refer to 64bit OS?
[04:58] <MetaMorfoziS> why my kubuntu dapper restarts instead shutdown if i go to the kmenu, and select logout and SHUTDOWN , not restart...?!
[05:00] <cpk2> MetaMorfoziS: does poweroff shut down the computer?
[05:00] <MetaMorfoziS> not alltimes
[05:01] <MetaMorfoziS> sometimes it's stops before shutdown, and black or memorybug feel screen that it shows
[05:01] <ccc> Vulc4n: then i dunno. that should work, it has always worked for me. all i can think of is some keyboards need the "F-lock" enabled to activate the F-keys.
[05:01] <Arlington> anyone using slimserver from slimdevices under kubuntu.
[05:03] <MetaMorfoziS> any idea?
[05:05] <rambo3> MetaMorfoziS, check dmesg . and such see whats in:  cat /etc/rc0.d/S90halt
[05:06] <MetaMorfoziS> i dunno what i need to do with thats
[05:09] <rambo3> you can check to see if there is some device that messing it . see va/log/syslog too , /etc/rc0.d/ are links to what is done on shutdown . programs and such
[05:12] <MetaMorfoziS> [17179635.180000]  ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A]  -> Link [LNKA]  -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
[05:12] <MetaMorfoziS> this is problem?
[05:13] <MetaMorfoziS> i paste my dmesg
[05:13] <alain_> hello
[05:13] <alain_> i have a problem with the sound system in kde
[05:14] <alain_> if I use autodetect, i get a cpu overload warning
[05:14] <rambo3> MetaMorfoziS, use pastebin
[05:14] <alain_> if i manually select open sound system everything is fine
[05:14] <MetaMorfoziS> yesyes..
[05:14] <alain_> its in 6.10
[05:14] <alain_> in 6.06 it worked fine
[05:16] <MetaMorfoziS> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26080/
[05:17] <MetaMorfoziS> thisis my dmesg
[05:17] <alain_> anyone an idea?
[05:17] <alain_> why?
[05:17] <rambo3> MetaMorfoziS, is it a laptop or dekstop , and how old is it
[05:17] <n8k99> alain: i have teh same problem in 6.10
[05:18] <n8k99> alain: or at least similar
[05:18] <MetaMorfoziS> it is a laptop, about 2years old, noname machine.
[05:18] <MetaMorfoziS> Sysinfo for 'macisajt': Linux 2.6.15-27-k7 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: mobile AMD Athlon XP-M 2000+ at 1658 MHz (1328 bogomips), HD: 23/36GB, RAM: 184/186MB, 88 proc's, 10.51h up
[05:18] <MetaMorfoziS> ^^
[05:19] <jon_> there a ubuntu dapper repository for gnome 2.16
[05:19] <jon_> ?
[05:19] <Hobbsee> !info gnome-panel
[05:19] <ubotu> gnome-panel: launcher and docking facility for GNOME 2. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 379 kB, installed size 928 kB
[05:19] <Hobbsee> jon_: no
[05:20] <jon_> Hobbsee: not even non-official?
[05:20] <damjan> !info xgl
[05:20] <ubotu> Package xgl does not exist in any distro I know
[05:20] <damjan> !info compiz
[05:20] <ubotu> compiz: OpenGL composition manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.2-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 125 kB, installed size 424 kB
[05:21] <Hobbsee> jon_: i dont know of any.  if you're going to backport all of the stuff in edgy, you may as well upgrade to it
[05:21] <jon_> is edgy released now?
[05:22] <MetaMorfoziS> BETA
[05:22] <n8k99> jon: edgy is beta1
[05:22] <n8k99> it is nice, still some more work in some areas
[05:22] <jon_> is it safe to upgrade?
[05:22] <jon_> from dapper?
[05:22] <rambo3> MetaMorfoziS, i think its your acpi search forums for:  asus-acpi off
[05:22] <n8k99> it's probably better to clean install
[05:23] <hyper_> jon_ I installed edgy directly... have no problems so far
[05:23] <jon_> i'll leave it for now. might do it later.
[05:23] <MetaMorfoziS> asus?
[05:23] <MetaMorfoziS> why asus?
[05:23] <dennister> I am finding this java business in kubuntu sooooooo frustrating!
[05:23] <hyper_> isn't the edgy stable release planned by the end of the month?
[05:23] <MetaMorfoziS> i have mitac motherboard
[05:24] <n8k99> dennister:java or javascript?
[05:24] <dennister> java...have made some progress, but not enough
[05:24] <RichEd> Final edgy release date: Thu 26th Occt
[05:24] <TheGateKeeper> dennister: so you got kubuntu installed then :-)
[05:25] <dennister> oh i've had kubuntu installed for some time now
[05:25] <RichEd> Quick Poll: how many of the people lurking & active here are involved in the Education sector using Kubuntu ?
[05:25] <dennister> i'm trying to troubleshoot azureus, which i know well from windows, but that means improving the java support
[05:25] <TheGateKeeper> dennister: oh I remember you where trying to tidy up yesterday
[05:26] <dennister> yes TheGateKeeper, and it's quite clean now, ty
[05:26] <TheGateKeeper> dennister: good stuff :-)
[05:26] <rambo3> MetaMorfoziS, try this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24388
[05:27] <dennister> but 'm thinking of getting rid of the whole tuner busienss and just downloading
[05:27] <dennister> so i need a drag'ndrop filesharing
[05:28] <n8k99> dennister: dnd filesharing on your network, cant you do that in konqueror?
[05:28] <MetaMorfoziS> rambo3: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26083/
[05:28] <MetaMorfoziS> i have this acpis
[05:28] <MetaMorfoziS> i read forward
[05:28] <dennister> i've been following the java howto on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-6524a0c56845e40dccd32676dad42830325e5707
[05:29] <MetaMorfoziS> rambo3: and i turn off acpi, it's not causes problems? for example fans never started again if it overheats etc?
[05:29] <dennister> and while i now have a box for java plugins in firefox (b4 i had only the puzzle piece) that's as far as i can get
[05:29] <rambo3> MetaMorfoziS, acpi turnes off fans, if you have no acpi then they will spin forever
[05:30] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm don't want that...
[05:30] <dennister> i can't even find the 'configure firefox" option in Firefox's tools
[05:30] <dennister> it used to be there...
[05:31] <TheGateKeeper> dennister: Edit --> preferences
[05:31] <LeeJunFan_away> rovclock can underclock your radeon card too to keep your gpu fan from needing to spin all the time.
[05:31] <LeeJunFan_away> I cut my gpu clockrate in 1/2 and still xgl/beryl works as fast as ever.
[05:32] <dennister> TheGateKeeper: i've got java and javascript enabled there
[05:33] <TheGateKeeper> dennister: installed the plugin?
[05:33] <dennister> yes
[05:36] <dennister> oh, the tools "configure" for plugins that I was remembering came from konq
[05:37] <dennister> but certainly in firefox i've even made the links....that enabled the java box at least (as opposed to the puzzle pieces)
[05:38] <dennister> and i have a GCJ web plugin now, too
[05:38] <dennister> but it's showing exception errors :-(
[05:39] <dennister> like at the top of that applet: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: while resolving class: jreVerify
[05:40] <mindspin> !tell me about easysource
[05:41] <mindspin> !easysource
[05:41] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:42] <dennister> TheGateKeeper: any ideas?
[05:43] <ubuntu__> huhu, it works
[05:43] <TheGateKeeper> dennister: what is the url you are going to?
[05:44] <dennister> TheGateKeeper: it's a speedtest site from AzureusWiki: http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest?loc=4&premium=
[05:45] <intelikey> hmmm my script that oppens tty's for me works every place except tty1  for some reason init closes that console on me.   i could move the script that opens it to the last thing init does but that almost defeats the purpose...   any thoughts ?
[05:46] <Kr4t05> Man, this is the one thing I don't like about doing a fresh install.
[05:46] <TheGateKeeper> dennister: don't know why you are having a problem, however there are loads of bandwidth speed test web sites, just google
[05:47] <Kr4t05> I need to make a script that will get/install easyubuntu, run it, and update all of my other packages.
[05:48] <dennister> i know there are lots of sites, but they all have the faulty java applet, so its the java on my pc that's not right
[05:50] <cpk2> dennister: i dont see anything on that page either =(
[05:51] <dennister> hm...should i be masquerading as another browser? or simply reboot my machine?
[05:51] <dennister> i know konq has to have kde reloaded b4 changes take affect
[05:51] <kappellaio> hi
[05:52] <kappellaio> there are somebody from italy?
[05:52] <intelikey> !it
[05:52] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:52] <dennister> a lot of these speed test sites also give other apps to download, but i'm nervous about these other apps cause they're generally for windows
[05:53] <cpk2> i dont know why i cant load that page either, I am using sun java
[05:54] <dennister> i can load the page, but not the applet...it's got to be something to do with these GCG web plugin error messages
[05:54] <cpk2> err well i meant the applet =x
[05:54] <cpk2> I dont get any errors on konq
[05:55] <cpk2> at least firefox tells me I am missing the java plugin
[05:55] <alain_> anyone knows where i report a bug about artsd
[05:55] <Sharketor> hi
[05:55] <dennister> ok :) i'm glad i got the previous page working well though...it had icons where it now has text
[05:55] <n8k99> Sharketor:hi
[05:55] <intelikey> malone
[05:55] <dennister> firefox isn't telling me i'm missing anythng
[05:55] <Sharketor> I would know how I can enable cd rom il adept
[05:55] <intelikey> alain_ malone
[05:56] <Sharketor> *in adept
[05:56] <dennister> TheGateKeeper: have u given up? moved on to other matters?
[05:57] <Sharketor> Who can help me????
[05:57] <dennister> Sharketor: hold on a sec
[05:57] <n8k99> Sharketor: what seems to be the trouble?
[05:57] <dennister> k...better techies than this noob have time ;D
[05:58] <Sharketor> I have to install the linux headers, which are on cd rom
[05:58] <dennister> I'm going to reboot to restart kde and hopefully get the plugin in konq
[05:58] <dennister> bbsoon
[05:59] <n8k99> Sharketor: do you have the cd?
[05:59] <Sharketor> yes
[05:59] <Sharketor> well
[06:00] <intelikey> Sharketor apt-cache search linux-headers    && sudo apt-get install linux-headers-<your version>
[06:00] <n8k99> alain: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/arts/+bugs
[06:01] <Sharketor> well, I have no internet connection
[06:01] <Sharketor> Now I'm on xp
[06:02] <intelikey> you installed from the cd correct ?
[06:02] <Sharketor> linux headers need me to install modem drivers on kubuntu
[06:02] <Sharketor> yes, i installed from live cd
[06:02] <intelikey> Sharketor so then; apt-cache search linux-headers    && sudo apt-get install linux-headers-<your version>
[06:03] <Sharketor> ok, thanks
[06:03] <LjL> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` shoudl also do the trick, without looking up the version manually
[06:04] <Sharketor> another question: where is in kubuntu the file with the list of operative system???
[06:04] <LjL> you mean /boot/grub/menu.lst i think
[06:04] <Sharketor> ljl: this doesn't work, already tried
[06:04] <LjL> take care when editing that file, though, you might render the system unusable
[06:04] <LjL> i see
[06:04] <LjL> well, what does "uname -r" say anyway?
[06:04] <Sharketor> ok
[06:04] <trappist> well, nice thing about grub is you can still boot even if you screw up the config
[06:04] <intelikey> Sharketor if for some strange reason that doesn't work.   use   sudo apt-cdrom add
[06:05] <LjL> trappist: yeah, you have to know how though
[06:05] <intelikey> and yes the file you ask about is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:05] <trappist> LjL: yeah, and good luck getting on irc from the grub prompt
[06:05] <Sharketor> ok, I try
[06:05] <Sharketor> thank all
[06:05] <LjL> trappist: that would be a useful feature, though
[06:05] <Sharketor> bye
[06:06] <intelikey> :)
[06:08] <intelikey> well time to make hey while the sun is shining...
[06:08] <cpk2> how about irc from bios? =)
[06:08] <LjL> cpk2: well, the BIOS is something i'd scrap completely, so no
[06:08] <Admiral_Chicago> hold on
[06:08] <Admiral_Chicago> nevermindh
[06:08] <intelikey> LjL irc from grub   hehhe   didn't think that one through did you...  :)
[06:08] <raul12>  PLZ HELP READ THESE  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26088/
[06:09] <yeti> is there any command that lists all files that belong to an installed package
[06:09] <apokryphos> raul12: no caps please
[06:09] <LjL> intelikey: well, i do really believe it wouldn't be hard if you just focused on just irc with a specific device (say, a hardware dial-up modem). of course, though, it makes no sense
[06:09] <raul12>  ok sry
[06:09] <LjL> yeti: dpkg -L packagename
[06:10] <TheGateKeeper> raul12: may be of assisstance idk ---> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:10] <milan> hi when executing google earth it says it can't find libXcursor.so.1
[06:10] <milan> but i do have that libary
[06:10] <yeti> LjL, thanks
[06:10] <milan> im on 64-bit
[06:10] <LjL> intelikey: heh yeah, you have a point about exploitable bootloaders not being necessarily a good thing ;)
[06:11] <apokryphos> raul12: it won't work
[06:11] <LjL> !info libxcursor1
[06:11] <apokryphos> raul12: debian-based systems aren't biarch-compatible unfortunately
[06:11] <ubotu> libxcursor1: X cursor management library. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 21 kB, installed size 72 kB
[06:11] <intelikey> i gota go.   see yous guys laters   :)
[06:12] <trappist> milan: I have to run google earth from a 32bit chroot
[06:12] <milan> ok.. do you know how trappist?
[06:12] <apokryphos> milan: same issue as raul12
[06:12] <apokryphos> !chroot
[06:12] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[06:12] <raul12>  then
[06:12] <milan> ok thanks
[06:13] <trappist> milan: it might be possible not to - where is your libXcursor.so.1 and what does it point to?
[06:13] <raul12> ok
[06:13] <apokryphos> raul12: you do know you don't HAVE to have a 32-bit version of opera, right?
[06:13] <milan> is this possible: /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1
[06:13] <trappist> milan: if it's not in /usr/lib32, try installing ia32-libs-gtk
[06:13] <raul12> yup
[06:13] <milan> cause there is that file
[06:13] <milan> ok ill try
[06:14] <raul12> i have opera 32 virsion
[06:14] <trappist> milan: a 32bit app like this will need 32bit libs, which (if they exist) will be in /usr/lib32
[06:14] <apokryphos> or, rather, that you can run their 32-bit version
[06:14] <milan> ah ok
[06:14] <apokryphos> it's self-contained, I believe; get the static qt one
[06:14] <raul12> but i installed all lib32 files
[06:14] <milan> so i can run every 32-bit program on 64-bit kubuntu
[06:14] <milan> or just a few?
[06:15] <milan> with the right libaries of course
[06:15] <milan> ok thanks it works :D
[06:15] <apokryphos> are you guys talking about edgy?
[06:15] <trappist> milan: if you're lucky, all the ones that require libs available in the repos, but biarch stuff is tricky and may not always work.  so, I keep a 32bit chroot around to avoid the drama.
[06:15] <trappist> milan: cool
[06:15] <raul12>  i also have 32 bit wine to install
[06:15] <apokryphos> do they have seperate 32-bit packs for amd64s?
[06:16] <raul12>  no drapper
[06:16] <trappist> apokryphos: apt-cache search ia32
[06:16] <apokryphos> hm, interesting
[06:17] <raul12>  any ideas
[06:17] <TheGateKeeper> apokryphos: if you install 64 bit & want to run flash or multimedia with codecs you have to install the 32bit stuff
[06:17] <trappist> raul12: 32bit chroot, is how I do it
[06:17] <apokryphos> TheGateKeeper: I didn't realise that was available for dapper, at all
[06:17] <raul12>  and how do i do that ??
[06:17] <apokryphos> are these 32bit libs meant to be complete?
[06:17] <milan> OpenHL really s*cks here :P
[06:17] <milan> *openGL
[06:18] <trappist> raul12: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[06:18] <TheGateKeeper> apokryphos: yep dapper has 64bit along with a lot of other distros
[06:18] <hyper_> hiho trappist
[06:18] <raul12>  ok on it
[06:18] <trappist> hyper_
[06:18] <apokryphos> TheGateKeeper: I don't mean 64bit, I mean 32bit libs for 64bit
[06:18] <apokryphos> looks like there's only a very small selection of such packages
[06:19] <hyper> trappist: already found a fix for the wallpaper thingy?
[06:19] <apokryphos> (which is as I thought)
[06:19] <milan> trappist: does this also work with Skype for linux?
[06:19] <trappist> milan: presumably
[06:19] <TheGateKeeper> apokryphos: 64bit can run 32bit, just like 32bit can run 16bit
[06:19] <trappist> hyper: no, I started messing with other stuff
[06:19] <apokryphos> TheGateKeeper: but it's all not very useful if your distro doesn't provide those backward-compatible packages
[06:19] <LjL> TheGateKeeper: can 64bit run 16bit?
[06:20] <LjL> apokryphos: well, it's still quite useful in that you can intall a 32bit distro on a 64bit system
[06:20] <hyper> trappist: don't worry :)it's not that bad...  I still have plenty of diskspace so I just copied them all into one folder... 18k wallpapers
[06:20] <apokryphos> and it's not all 64-bit, it's mainly amd64 which is backward compatible, right?
[06:20] <TheGateKeeper> LjL: it should be able to
[06:20] <apokryphos> LjL: I know, but for a distro to resort to that (considering amd64 has been around for so long) is really quite bad
[06:20] <trappist> hyper: you could save the disk space by making symlinks instead of copies
[06:21] <LjL> apokryphos: well, have you ever used windows 95? if so, when did you ditch the last win16 program you had running on it?
[06:22] <hyper> trappist: hmm, you don't happen to have a scripts that makes recursive symlinks? I don't how many folders there were... probably 200-300
[06:22] <apokryphos> I probably haven't ever used win 95 for more than a couple of days, so nope
[06:22] <trappist> hyper: find -type f /path/to/wallpaper/dir -exec ln -s {} /new/wallpaperdir/ \;
[06:22] <LjL> apokryphos: well, then just believe my word that such transitions can take some good time
[06:22] <hyper> trappis: I'll write that down :) thx
[06:22] <hyper> trappist: only 3.5 GB
[06:23] <apokryphos> LjL: in comparison to some other Linux distros, it is quite a poor show
[06:23] <apokryphos> SUSE has been biarch-compatible since like 9.1 or something
[06:23] <milan> well, now im following a tutorial to install skype for linux on 64-bit and it says to install libqt3-mt if you are missing some libaries but that one is already istalled.
[06:24] <milan> and i do miss some libaries :P
[06:24] <apokryphos> milan: get the static qt version of skype from their site
[06:24] <alexicon> heya
[06:24] <alexicon> my dhcp is setting the resolve wrong
[06:25] <alexicon> how can i get the networking init script to stop changing the resolve.conf
[06:25] <beligum> apokryphos: is that right?
[06:25] <apokryphos> and yet it's a nice big advertisement on their main download page
[06:25] <trappist> alexicon: use static ip and routing, and not dhcp
[06:25] <apokryphos> beligum: Windows version: 2.5; Linux: 1.3, and has been......for ages
[06:25] <alexicon> ok thanks
[06:25] <apokryphos> Linux version has seen none of the great new things that ebay brought in
[06:25] <milan> 1.3 :|
[06:25] <hyper> trappist: taht will not work
[06:26] <beligum> didn't know that
[06:26] <apokryphos> beligum: and really, it's ridiculous, since Skype is coded in Qt
[06:27] <apokryphos> LjL: thing is, the windows Skype version has really really good webcam support
[06:27] <beligum> didn't know that either :)
[06:27] <apokryphos> something that's just still not perfected on Linux at all. Kind of sucks.
[06:28] <LjL> apokryphos: well, if i had to use a webcam, i'd rather use SIP compliant software anyway -- or some other decent, open protocol for that matter, just not skyoe
[06:28] <milan> i cant extract the binary :|
[06:28] <apokryphos> milan: what's the error?
[06:28] <milan> uuh
[06:28] <milan> dutch error :P
[06:29] <beligum> I'm looking for some people who want to make cool software videos using ScreenKast
[06:29] <milan> cant translate it
[06:29] <LjL> just paste it
[06:29] <apokryphos> LjL: I'd prefer it, but I'd much rather see my girlfriend on a cam and not use OSS than the contrary
[06:29] <trappist> hyper: why
[06:29] <beligum> apokryphos: lol
[06:29] <milan> ow w8
[06:29] <milan> :P
[06:29] <LjL> apokryphos: and i suppose you can't convince your girlfriend to use SIP software?
[06:29] <milan> lol
[06:29] <milan> i dint have an extension :P
[06:29] <hyper> trappsit:
[06:29] <hyper> hyper@hyper-linux:/media/hdb3/samba$ find -type f /media/hdb3/samba/wallpapers -exec ln -s {} /new/wallpaperdir/ \;
[06:29] <hyper> find: paths must precede expression
[06:29] <hyper> Usage: find [-H]  [-L]  [-P]  [path...]  [expression]
[06:30] <apokryphos> LjL: SIP?
[06:30] <milan> gtg thanks and bye all
[06:30] <trappist> hyper: oh, sorry: find /media/hdb3/samba/wallpapers -type f -exec ln -s {} /new/wallpaperdir/ \;
[06:30] <TheGateKeeper> LjL: can you get SIP software to work on your pc?
[06:30] <hyper> trappist that seems to work
[06:31] <LjL> apokryphos: yeah, the protocol that's used in Ekiga, WengoPhone, KCall, Twinkle, KPhone, linphone, and by just about every voip provider in the world -- except skype
[06:31] <hyper> at least the computer is doing something
[06:31] <LjL> TheGateKeeper: well, the KDE SIP software that there's around is not quite optimal. but i think we have kphone (bleah), twinkle and wengophone in the repos
[06:31] <apokryphos> LjL: I haven't tried it; maybe I'll try out kcall now.
[06:31] <apokryphos> or maybe just ekiga
[06:32] <LjL> apokryphos: kcall's not packaged
[06:32] <n8k99> kopete has camera support
[06:32] <LjL> apokryphos: try wengophone, for something user-friendly that also has a windows version (so you have the same software as your girlfriend)
[06:32] <apokryphos> n8k99: yeah, but it isn't great
[06:32] <LjL> wengophone runs on QT
[06:32] <apokryphos> LjL: I have her on Linux, actually ;-), I just need to get round to doing her wireless one ofthese days
[06:32] <n8k99> apokryphos:thanx
[06:32] <TheGateKeeper> LjL: I have tried both Ekiga & twinkle & can't get either of them to work properly
[06:32] <LjL> and i don't even know what protocol it uses anyway
[06:33] <apokryphos> LjL: on suse -- kcall's in repository here
[06:33] <LjL> ah i see
[06:33] <LjL> TheGateKeeper: well, i admit that all the SIP parameters can be sort of confusing at times.
[06:33] <apokryphos> n8k99: well, at least with my webcam. They weren't very helpful at all either, really, in #kopete
[06:34] <alexicon> whats the default group kubuntu chosses for user home dir files
[06:34] <LjL> apokryphos: anyway if you have it packaged, yeah, imho kcall is the best of the bunch
[06:34] <alexicon> users?
[06:34] <apokryphos> cool
[06:34] <LjL> alexicon: the group with the same name as the username
[06:34] <apokryphos> alexicon: I think it's just username:username on anything
[06:34] <apokryphos> s/anything/everything/
[06:35] <alexicon> ooh yeah..
[06:35] <alexicon> hrmm
[06:35] <hyper> trappist: thx
[06:35] <trappist> hyper: np
[06:35] <LjL> alexicon: when you create a user, a group is always (well if you use adduser) automaticlly added with the same name
[06:35] <alexicon> if i want to install kubuntu and share a home dir with gentoo which uses username:users
[06:35] <TheGateKeeper> LjL: I Ekiga to register my account but when I call<EMAIL_ADDRESS>I get nothing, I think I have teamspeak working, & skype works really well on windows
[06:36] <n8k99> apokryphos: i believe that therre is a new version of kopete that will roll out with kde 3.5.5
[06:36] <alexicon> i had a conflict with kubuntu and suse before, dotfile properties get overwritten and kde doesnt like it much
[06:36] <TheGateKeeper> the SIP clients just seem to be a bad nightmare!!
[06:36] <apokryphos> n8k99: the newest version won't, it'll just be a bugfix release
[06:36] <n8k99> right
[06:36] <n8k99> oh well
[06:37] <apokryphos> they do have a feature-release version
[06:37] <LjL> TheGateKeeper: well, i don't have an ekiga account (and i don't have ekiga for that matter). though, i agree, SIP can be a bad beast to configure correctly... it should be made easier. still, at least, it's an open protocol that you can support easily
[06:37] <apokryphos> 0.12 IIRC
[06:38] <n8k99> it seems as if the biggest developmemts will be in the releae of kde4
[06:38] <apokryphos> n8k99: indeed
[06:38] <TheGateKeeper> LjL: fat lot of use if you can't get it to work, & I have had gentoo people trying to help, & if they can't figure it you are stuffed
[06:38] <LjL> TheGateKeeper: that's not very surprising on the other hand imho, anyway... with skype, you get something that works out of the box, but *only* with a skype account -- and you need the original skype software since the protocol is closed. SIP clients, on the other hand, can be harder to configure... but that's partly because they can work with just about any provider
[06:39] <Vulc4n> hey
[06:39] <apokryphos> kcall looks very simplistic so far
[06:39] <n8k99> Vulc4n:hello
[06:40] <LjL> apokryphos: yeah, oh wait a moment though... i forgot that you wanted webcam for a minute. i don't know which KDE SIP clients have video support, i only know that wengophone does
[06:40] <apokryphos> yeah, realised it doesn't have iw
[06:40] <LjL> (and ekiga, but that's not KDE)
[06:40] <apokryphos> *doens' thave it now
[06:40] <apokryphos> I'll try wengophone
[06:40] <dughy> it's possible to have same information to config wifi?
[06:41] <n8k99> Vulc4n: what is the problem?
[06:41] <Vulc4n> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=9709.0
[06:41] <LjL> apokryphos: wengophone will try to get you to register a wengo account (well, same does ekiga for that matter, IIRC), but don't be fooled -- it *is* an actual SIP client that can be configured for any SIP provider
[06:41] <Vulc4n> might just be easier for you to read that
[06:41] <n8k99> Vulc4n: one sec
[06:41] <LjL> (and to find SIP providers, http://www.voipuser.co.uk)
[06:42] <LjL> oh, it's voipuser.org actually
[06:42] <hyper> Vulc4n: at least you got further with the install than my buddy :)
[06:42] <Vulc4n> hyper, heh, still just as useless though :P
[06:43] <Vulc4n> I can get to a bash prompt by choosing the second option in the bootloader
[06:43] <Vulc4n> someone mentionedl ooking at a log file or something
[06:43] <hyper> Vulc4n: He tried all dapper and edgy versions and got always stuck at extracting vmlinux at boot... however breezy installed fine.. but when he wanted to upgrade to dapper, after reboot the same...
[06:43] <n8k99> that's a very interesting prob you have there Vulc4n
[06:44] <Vulc4n> I think it must have to be graphics driver problem
[06:44] <Vulc4n> the other interestign thing is that the live cd for ubuntu worked in 'safe grpahics mode'
[06:44] <Vulc4n> but the kubuntu live cd did not work in safe graphics mode
[06:45] <Vulc4n> I had to use the alternate install cd
[06:45] <dughy> please help me......
[06:45] <hyper> vulcan: howabou installing ubuntu and adding kde afterwards?
[06:45] <n8k99> and you can't get a getty up?
[06:45] <LjL> !wifi
[06:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:45] <dughy> grazie
[06:45] <B-Minus> hey all
[06:45] <LjL> prego
[06:46] <dughy> italiano?
[06:46] <Vulc4n> hyper, I suppose I could try that, even when I did get ubuntu installed it did not seem to have a propper graphics driver
[06:46] <hyper> !it
[06:46] <LjL> yep
[06:46] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:46] <n8k99> !it
[06:46] <Vulc4n> as in I couldn't se the resolution/refresh rate
[06:46] <hyper> vulc4n: are there any proper graphics driver that you can isntall afterwards?
[06:46] <dughy> nono it's no problem
[06:46] <Vulc4n> I have no idea
[06:46] <Vulc4n> and I'm not sureh ow
[06:46] <hyper> is this nvidia or ati?
[06:46] <LjL> he was just asking whether *i* was italian
[06:47] <Vulc4n> this is my first venture outside windows in years
[06:47] <Vulc4n> nvidia 7800 gt
[06:47] <hyper> there is a howto about nvidia driver install
[06:47] <hyper> lemme find it on the forum
[06:47] <n8k99> !nvidia
[06:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:47] <apokryphos> LjL: any idea what ports SIP wants to be forwarded?
[06:48] <LjL> apokryphos: no, i don't know, but that's because SIP always worked for me without forwarding any port (and i *can't* forward ports anyway)... i think you need to specify a STUN server though, for that sort of thing to work
[06:49] <apokryphos> it says Symmetric NAT is supported, but not ideal
[06:49] <LjL> apokryphos: oh, well, i don't know if it's not ideal. anyway, one standard port is 6081 i think, not even sure though
[06:49] <hyper> vulc4n:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255929
[06:50] <LjL> apokryphos: that's really just the port *you* connect to, anyway
[06:50] <Vulc4n> okay... thanks for that.  I'm goign to give it a try and see what happens
[06:51] <Vulc4n> someone mentioned al og file I coudl loo kat that might reveal what is happening
[06:51] <hyper> good luck :)
[06:51] <Vulc4n> know what it is / how to access it?
[06:51] <hyper> vulcan: probably syslog
[06:51] <[Deathmaster] > hi all, anyone of you using netscape ??
[06:51] <LjL> apokryphos: if it were for me, i'd just go with the NAT and see if it works well nuff
[06:51] <LjL> hopefully, not
[06:52] <hyper> vulcan: n8k99 also posted this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:53] <LjL> if only wengophone actually was a KDE app, i'd probably use it :\
[06:53] <[Deathmaster] > ok another question i installed java 5 with ap-get and i aslo installed the plugin for mozilla but i have problems with web chats applets
[06:53] <raul12>  is wine aviable in 64bit  version
[06:53] <n8k99> vulc4n: / is you root filesystem -
[06:54] <Vulc4n> yes
[06:54] <hyper> vulcan: actually there's another guide... I'm looking for it now
[06:54] <Vulc4n> k
[06:54] <LjL> well actually i think i wouldn't use wengophone anyway, since it doesn't support multiple concurrently connected accounts
[06:54] <n8k99> vulc4n: i was going to say you can get to it from the command line with this command "cd /"
[06:55] <n8k99> vulc4n: when you log ino the getty, ctrl+alt+f1 or in the gui you use terminal
[06:56] <raul12>   is wine aviable in 64bit  version
[06:57] <Vulc4n> getty?
[07:03] <GwenDragon> Hi
[07:05] <felixjet> hi
[07:06] <raul12>   is wine aviable in 64bit  version ????????????/
[07:06] <fdoving> ?????
[07:06] <fdoving> !!!
[07:06] <fdoving> :)
[07:06] <raul12> ^_^!!!!
[07:06] <nebi> nadie habla espaol?
[07:06] <fdoving> raul12: check http://packages.ubuntu.com
[07:06] <fdoving> !es > nebi
[07:06] <hyper> vulcan, I can't find it anymore but I copied and pasted it into my "linux wiki" :)
[07:07] <Lintsi> !info kaffeine
[07:07] <ubotu> kaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1.3ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 1528 kB, installed size 3748 kB
[07:08] <hyper> vulc4n: I used that here: http://www.phpfi.com/161927
[07:08] <felixjet> i have a problem >.<
[07:08] <felixjet> the sound dont works!
[07:08] <felixjet> it does yesterday but today it dont works and i dunno why
[07:09] <felixjet> any idea?
[07:11] <vulcanium> hyper: thanks
[07:13] <hyper> vulcan: good luck :)
[07:13] <Arlington> anyone using slimserver
[07:14] <dennister> hi again
[07:14] <hyper> trappist?
[07:15] <vulcanium> thanks hyper... I'm on the latptop here so I can get some more guidane while Im trying it o nthe desktop
[07:15] <dennister> anyone know azueus here? what to do about new .jar files?
[07:16] <hyper> vulcan: are you now in the command shell?
[07:16] <n8k99> felixjet: are you using edgy?
[07:17] <GwenDragon> I need some help with serois prob with SMP kernel
[07:17] <vulcanium> hyper: yep, I followed that guide you posted first.. it was the shortest
[07:17] <TheGateKeeper> LjL: this looks a little more promising: http://www.brunolinux.com/10-General_Info/VoIP_with_Kphone.html
[07:17] <hyper> well, the one I posted on phpfi is the one I followed :)
[07:18] <hyper> <-- has a legacy driver card
[07:18] <vulcanium> well, its booting now, lets see if it did it
[07:18] <VanessaE> got a question regarding edgy.... has anyone had a problem with Ctrl-Alt-Plus/Minus not working?
[07:18] <hyper> ^^
[07:18] <dennister> k...i'm going away for a bit to remember how to do tar files..cya soon i'm sure
[07:18] <vulcanium> seems it may have worked
[07:18] <vulcanium> yep
[07:18] <VanessaE> (trying to fix swanfl's machine still)
[07:18] <hyper> dennister: what is that suppost to do?
[07:18] <vulcanium> w00t!
[07:18] <vulcanium> thank yo usooo much hyper
[07:18] <dennister> what is what supposed to do?
[07:18] <LjL> TheGateKeeper: ah, kphone supports video. thought not. (still, kphone is in a sad state right now... though i see development has been resumed by a new team)
[07:19] <hyper> dennister:  ctrl + alt + Plus/Minus
[07:19] <hyper> vulcan: is it working?
[07:19] <Dr_willis> Hmm..  Ktorrent is showing me -2.24% done on this stalled torrent. :()  NO Peers no seeds,  LOL.
[07:19] <dennister> hold on: serious probs now
[07:19] <dennister> gonna have to close down konversation
[07:20] <VanessaE> (works fine on my dapper box, his edgy setup is as correct as it can be...I'm figuring X is at fault but I can't find a single meaningful reference on google)
[07:20] <hyper> anyone knows how I can check whether someone is connected to my desktop through desktop sharing (I accept uninvited but have set a password)?
[07:20] <vulcanium> hyper: yes, perfectly
[07:20] <hyper> vulcanium: then I suggest you do what I did: I installed a wiki and everything something helps me I post it there... so that if I hve the problems later again, I just go there and get the solution again
[07:21] <TheGateKeeper> LjL: well I was more along the lines of actually being able to get something working, it's inabilty to support video for me at least isn't really an issue
[07:21] <TheGateKeeper> thinking* more along the line
[07:22] <LjL> TheGateKeeper: yeah, i was just thinking loudly. but still, that article talks about strange things... like H323 (which is a *different* and alternative protocol to SIP) and firewalls...
[07:22] <tdn> I am using KDE but I do run some programs which uses GTK or something... These programs have a default font-size that is much larger than the one I like to have in KDE. (Screenshot of an example here: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/tmp/gtk_large_fonts.png) How do I set the font-size for these programs so that they look more like my KDE programs? Actually in the screenshot I am using Eclipse and the fonts are so big that I can not use it. I can not fit it all on my scr
[07:23] <n8k99> tdn: System Settings> Appearance > GTK fonts
[07:23] <VanessaE> tdn: there's a setting in KDE control Center for that: Appearance and Themes -> GTK...
[07:23] <VanessaE> um, thanks n8k :)
[07:23] <trappist> hyper: ?
[07:23] <VanessaE> or you can turn that ^^^^ feature off and use Gnome control center to configure the GTK fonts
[07:24] <tdn> n8k99, ok.
[07:24] <hyper> trappist:  how I can check whether someone is connected to my desktop through desktop sharing (I accept uninvited but have set a password)?
[07:24] <tdn> VanessaE, why would I want to turn that feature off?
[07:24] <VanessaE> tdn: under certain circumstances, it doesn't work properly.
[07:25] <VanessaE> I don't remember what now, but I've seen it fail at least once.
[07:25] <n8k99> tdn: you can also download additional gtk-themes through adept
[07:25] <tdn> VanessaE, ok. Right now I really just need to get my Eclipse usable.
[07:25] <TheGateKeeper> Ekiga has got h323 settings, but goodness knows what you are supposed to do, kphone looks like you could SIP working
[07:25] <tdn> n8k99, ok. Do you recommend any?
[07:25] <zorglu_> tdn: i have one working, the only change i made was using sun java
[07:26] <n8k99> tdn: i am using Sphere Crystal - it closely matchs my kwin style
[07:26] <tdn> zorglu_, this is really not the problem here... Although I would like to know how to install Sun Java JDK/JRE the "right way".
[07:26] <tdn> n8k99, ok. Thanks.
[07:26] <zorglu_> !java
[07:26] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:26] <felixjet> n8k99 im using 6.06 dapper
[07:27] <felixjet> sorry i was afk
[07:27] <zorglu_> tdn: it is the steps i followed
[07:27] <n8k99> felixjet:ok
[07:27] <trappist> hyper: dunno, I don't even know what protocol kde uses for desktop sharing
[07:27] <n8k99> felixjet:https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/arts/+bugshttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/arts/+bugs
[07:27] <tdn> zorglu_, ok.
[07:27] <hyper> trappist: I use krdf or krfd or whatever it's called... it's included in kcontrol :)
[07:27] <n8k99> felixjet: check those out and see if any of them match your condition
[07:29] <n8k99> tdn: this is my desktop now, with both kde and gtk apps open http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=3695&cat=3
[07:29] <felixjet> n8k99 nope :( is not there
[07:30] <felixjet> that bugs are from a distro update, i did a clean install from CD
[07:30] <n8k99> felixjet: have you restarted your sound system?
[07:30] <felixjet> can you tell me how plz?
[07:30] <zorglu_> n8k99: xgl needs a 3d background for the cube :) the 2d one appears 'weird'
[07:30] <felixjet> i just restarted the whole machine XD
[07:30] <n8k99> System Settings > Sound>
[07:31] <n8k99> zorglu_: no mine is the big one with out the cube
[07:31] <felixjet> done
[07:31] <felixjet> i deactivated / activated it
[07:31] <felixjet> still no stound
[07:31] <vulcanium> okay... now just to get my onboard audio working
[07:31] <felixjet> sound*
[07:31] <vulcanium> any guides for that?
[07:31] <n8k99> !arts
[07:31] <ubotu> arts: sound system from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 5 kB, installed size 36 kB
[07:32] <tdn> n8k99, ok. This is mine: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/tmp/kde-setup/
[07:32] <felixjet> btw, in system->sound->hardware->force dev location* can i force my system to play sounds with the secondary sound card?
[07:33] <n8k99> tdn: very nice
[07:34] <n8k99> felixjet: there is a howto in the forums for troubleshooting your sound
[07:34] <vulcanium> awesome tdn.
[07:34] <vulcanium> felixjet: send me the link if you find it first
[07:34] <felixjet> which forums?
[07:35] <felixjet> k vulcanium XD
[07:35] <n8k99> felixjet:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[07:35] <fdoving> there is also
[07:35] <fdoving> !sound
[07:35] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[07:35] <tdn> n8k99, thanks :)
[07:35] <tdn> vulcanium, thanks :)
[07:37] <Chet> I'm trying to install WoW using wine and crossover, but the install craps out at cd change, and advice
[07:37] <Chet> any advice*
[07:42] <vulcanium> hmmm
[07:43] <vulcanium> seems my onboard sound isn't being picked up at all
[07:46] <felixjet> no sound :(
[07:46] <felixjet> i reinstalled alsa drivers
[07:47] <felixjet> but when i type aplay -l i get a list of the devices, but the sound dont works, and its at 100% volume, master,pcm, etc
[07:47] <n8k99> felixjet:i'm in the same place with edgy
[07:48] <felixjet> how can i delete devices?
[07:49] <felixjet> i would like to uninstall the motherboard sound card and ethernet
[07:49] <felixjet> since im using another cards (SB and realetk)
[07:50] <n8k99> under sound in the system settings can you chose the hardware that you are using
[07:50] <felixjet> in the force location dev ?
[07:51] <n8k99> felixjet: yeah it seems like that would be the place where you can make that selection
[07:52] <felixjet> and what about ethernet?
[07:53] <n8k99> felixjet: that would be under networking in the system settings
[07:53] <zorglu_> !info kernel-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[07:53] <ubotu> Package kernel-headers-2.6.15-26-386 does not exist in any distro I know
[07:53] <felixjet> the motherboard eth appears in all the modules, for example, with superkaramba i use a module to display eth traffic but it shows eth0 and im using eth1 to connect
[07:53] <n8k99> felixjet: hmmm....
[07:53] <felixjet> yes, in that menu appear the 2 eth devices but i cant uninstall from there
[07:53] <felixjet> just configure/enable/disable
[07:53] <n8k99> felixjet: but you can disable one
[07:54] <felixjet> but i need my realtek on eth0
[07:54] <felixjet> yep
[07:54] <felixjet> but disable eth0 (motherboard) will not move the device to eth1
[07:54] <felixjet> i need the realtek on eth0
[07:54] <felixjet> do you understand me?
[07:54] <felixjet> my english sucks heh
[07:55] <n8k99> felixjet: no i understand you just fine , am thinking
[07:55] <dennister> how is everyone this fine Happy Plugin Day?!
[07:55] <dennister> 'tis Thanksgiving in Toronto, btw :)
[07:55] <ryanr> I am looking at the output from a fdisk -l on 2 computers the one that is working properly has a * in the column for boot the one that is not booting properly does not have an * How significant is that?
[07:56] <n8k99> felixjet: what is the realtek?
[07:58] <felixjet> the realtek is the ethernet card i use
[07:58] <felixjet> located on eth1
[07:58] <felixjet> and the motherboard ethernet card is on eth0. and i dont use it, its disabled
[07:58] <felixjet> but i need the realtek card on eth0
[07:58] <dennister> isn't realtek the sound on the mobo?
[07:59] <dennister> felixjet: it sounds like u have the same mobo as i do
[07:59] <felixjet> because some traffic analyzers only read eth0 and i cant setup them
[07:59] <n8k99> felixjet: right. there should be no real need to reassign the realtek to eth0 for it to operate , in fact i'm pretty certain that you can not do that as the motherboard ethernet comes first in the hardware stack
[07:59] <dennister> i've disabled my eth1 2
[07:59] <B-Minus_> does anyone know a good traffic analyzer ??
[08:00] <willian> oi
[08:00] <zorglu_> B-Minus_: etherreal ?
[08:00] <willian> alguem do Brazil?
[08:00] <zorglu_> !pt
[08:00] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[08:00] <felixjet> then what can i do :(
[08:00] <willian> join #ubuntu-br
[08:01] <willian> join ubuntu-br
[08:01] <willian> #ubuntu-br
[08:01] <zorglu_> willian: "/join #ubuntu-br"
[08:01] <felixjet> the superkaramba modules that analyzer traffic cant be setup, and they show info about eth0
[08:01] <felixjet> and im using eth1
[08:02] <n8k99> felixjet: that i am not sure of at the moment - i dont use superkaramba so i haven't a clue
[08:02] <dennister> bipolar? what a nic
[08:02] <bipolar> heh
[08:02] <dennister> r u seriously bipolar?
[08:02] <bipolar> yeah
[08:03] <dennister> welcome bipolar! i am 2
[08:03] <bipolar> :)
[08:03] <dennister> 1 in a hundred
[08:03] <ryanr> I am looking at the output from a fdisk -l on 2 computers the one that is working properly has a * in the column for boot the one that is not booting properly does not have an * How significant is that?
[08:04] <dennister> ryanr:  very serious
[08:04] <dennister> the * symbol tells you that it is bootable
[08:05] <dennister> no * = no booting
[08:05] <n8k99> felixjet can you change the default network traffic to "eth1"
[08:05] <ryanr> dennister. heres the fun part it is a dual boot XP and ubuntu it boots to ubuntu but not XP
[08:06] <dennister> yeah, real fun
[08:06] <ryanr> any thoughts about that?
[08:06] <dennister> does it have a grub entry for xp?
[08:06] <ryanr> dennister it does
[08:07] <dennister> hmmm...mine just did it, without fooling windows or anything...but then again, xp is on 2nd separate drive
[08:07] <dennister> have u checked how some of the howtos for dualbooting?
[08:08] <ryanr> dennister would it matter that is it is on a sata drive
[08:08] <thygrrr> Can I somehow tell KDE not to resume each and every application upon startup that was running before shutdown?
[08:08] <mariam> can anybody help me?
[08:08] <dennister> ryanr: no it shouldn't matter what kind of drive
[08:08] <ryanr> dennister I have but nothing seems to relate
[08:08] <mariam> age1172
[08:09] <dennister> <-----too much of a noob to help, methinks
[08:09] <ryanr> dennister thanks
[08:09] <purpleposeidon> ....has anyone been having problems with ff randomly freezing up?
[08:09] <estel> hi, where what is the name of the package of a pcl6 driver for cups?
[08:10] <age1172> i have  a toshiba laptop with ati radeon mobility x1600 card ?
[08:10] <scenestar> join #emacs
[08:11] <n8k99> felixjet: which widget is the network traffic?
[08:11] <age1172> and i can't install the driver properly
[08:11] <age1172> i tried to install the driver from ati site
[08:12] <felixjet> n8k99 SkSystemMonitor
[08:12] <felixjet> on SuperKaramba
[08:12] <age1172> but it gave me error message at the end of the setup
[08:12] <n8k99> felixjet: yes on superkarmaba what's the widget's name?
[08:13] <felixjet> SkSystemMonitor
[08:13] <wildchild> does apt have package for nvidia driveres?
[08:13] <wildchild> drivers*
[08:13] <age1172> and tried fglrx
[08:15] <age1172> my problem is that my opengl version is 1.2
[08:15] <age1172> and the graphics are slow
[08:16] <dennister> wildchild: yes, it does for nvidia
[08:16] <age1172> any help?
[08:16] <wildchild> dennister: maybe u know the name of the package
[08:16] <rampage>  i have installed dchroot for 32bit packge installation but still unable to use opera 32bit installatioon
[08:16] <rampage>  plz help
[08:18] <rampage>  how to install 32bit opera .deb file ????
[08:19] <dennister> sorry wildchild: i don't know it off the top of my head
[08:19] <rampage>  ok i have done it
[08:19] <dennister> but just do a search for nvidia...
[08:19] <rampage>  i have installed it
[08:19] <rampage>  walla YADooo
[08:19] <rampage>  Yahooo
[08:20] <dennister> read it carefully to see if it's right for ur card
[08:20] <rampage> :D
[08:20] <yonkeltron> will there be shipit cds of edgy eft?
[08:20] <dennister> there's also a howto for nvida cards available on the main community support wiki
[08:20] <dennister> !nvida
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvida - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <dennister> !nvidia
[08:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:21] <dennister> see that...it will help
[08:21] <wildchild>  dennister: there is nvidia-glx package  binary driver..
[08:21] <TheGateKeeper> yonkeltron: would imagine so once it's released
[08:21] <yonkeltron> TheGateKeeper: excellent
[08:21] <dennister> wildchild: it depends on ur card; i have a 7800 series card, so i used the nvidia-glx
[08:22] <dennister> plus a linux-headers, but that was a dependency, so it came automatically
[08:22] <wildchild> so I need to see nvida list first...
[08:22] <wildchild> I have fx 5500
[08:22] <dennister> perhaps...what is ur card exactly wildchild?
[08:22] <wildchild> ge force fx 5500
[08:22] <wildchild> 256MB of ram
[08:23] <dennister> k, that one might already be part of ubuntu
[08:23] <winst0n> hi
[08:24] <dennister> find out by going to system settings-> display (as root) and scrolling to see if ur card is there
[08:24] <dennister> u may not have to download and install anything
[08:24] <vulcanium> hmmmm
[08:24] <vulcanium> ssomething happened :/
[08:24] <dennister> <-------has a newer card
[08:25] <dennister> !hardware
[08:25] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:25] <winst0n> is there any possible way to  crunch an partiton which is twofish encrypted when i know 98% of the password??
[08:25] <vulcanium> for some reason I'm getting an error which says "usplash: no usable theme found for 640x480"
[08:25] <vulcanium> "screen init failed"
[08:25] <dennister> wildchild: ? u still there?
[08:25] <B-Minus_> whats a command in shell to see all upload/download ?
[08:26] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: lspci will give you hardware info
[08:27] <TheGateKeeper> B-Minus_: you talking about wget ??
[08:27] <wildchild> denniste: yes
[08:27] <fdoving> B-Minus_: iptraf, nload, bwm
[08:27] <B-Minus_> TheGateKeeper: no
[08:27] <B-Minus_> fdoving: tnx
[08:28] <fdoving> B-Minus_: those are to view 'now', vnstat is for statistics over time. like 'how many mb last week/month/year' etc.
[08:28] <dennister> wildchild: TheGateKeeper gave u a command: lspci, for more info on ur card
[08:28] <dennister> just type that command into shell
[08:28] <B-Minus_> fdoving: ok tnx that was what i needed
[08:30] <wildchild> I'll pate bin
[08:31] <dennister> i keep forgetting how to use pastebin...but TheGateKeeper is better at giving tech support than i
[08:31] <dennister> <------tries, but isn't that great yet
[08:31] <wildchild> How can I stop installing package
[08:31] <age1172> i have  a toshiba laptop with ati radeon mobility x1600 card
[08:31] <TheGateKeeper> dennister: practise make perfect :-)
[08:31] <wildchild> I noticed that the wrong package is installing
[08:31] <wildchild> well now is downloading it..
[08:32] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: Ctrl + c
[08:32] <age1172> and i can't install the driver properly
[08:32] <age1172>  i tried to install the driver from ati site
[08:32] <dennister> yes, Ctrl-C stops a lot
[08:32] <wildchild> http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/195570
[08:32] <wildchild> my NVIDIA
[08:32] <age1172> but it gave me error message at the end of the setup
[08:32] <age1172> and tried fglrx
[08:32] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: but if it's started installing let it install then uninstall
[08:32] <age1172> my problem is that my opengl version is 1.2
[08:33] <age1172> and the graphics are slow
[08:33] <wildchild> TheGateKeeper: It was downloadin the package..
[08:33] <wildchild> and I stopped it
[08:34] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: GeForce FX 5500  <--- that is your video card
[08:35] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: just be carefull using Ctrl + c don't bork your install
[08:35] <wildchild> TheGateKeeper: so I have to install nvidia-glx  list of cards http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/appendix-a.html
[08:36] <wildchild> I am intending to install xgl
[08:36] <wildchild> is there any guide for installin this on KUBUNTU
[08:36] <wildchild> or any how to
[08:36] <Hawkwind> !xgl
[08:36] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:37] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: yep ^^^
[08:38] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: GeForce FX 5500 	0x0326   <--- entry in the list
[08:39] <vulcanium> is there any particular reason that uname-r would return 'generic'
[08:39] <vulcanium> with the version number obviously
[08:42] <TheGateKeeper> vulcanium: I just get a version number, have a look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:45] <vulcanium> okay... everything was fine until that last reboot
[08:45] <vulcanium> x server is no longer starting
[08:46] <mini_gamer1896> a quick question, how do i manually edit the repo's?
[08:46] <MotorCityMadMan> hello: what prog. is recommended for web development environment for KDE for a beginner ?
[08:46] <mini_gamer1896> done it before, but can't remember
[08:46] <TheGateKeeper> vulcanium: have a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:46] <n8k99> mini_gamer1896: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:46] <mini_gamer1896> k, thanks
[08:47] <TheGateKeeper> vulcanium: if that seems ok then when you do startx it should give you some indication of what it doesn't like
[08:47] <Anders0> has anyone installed Edgy Eft Beta with an ATI card?
[08:48] <Anders0> I just get a black screen.. tried VGA, 1024 in 16 bit and 32 bit.. 1280 didnt help either
[08:48] <slow-motion> hallo
[08:49] <TheGateKeeper> Anders0: try #ubuntu+1
[08:49] <Anders0> ok
[08:49] <TheGateKeeper> might have more luck there
[08:50] <Anders0> thanks
[08:52] <vulcanium> Anders0 do you have a cursor?
[08:52] <Anders0> nope, nothing
[08:52] <Anders0> ctrl+alt+F2 dosnt help either, still a black screen
[08:52] <vulcanium> well, I don't really know what I'm doing myself
[08:52] <vulcanium> but I fixed a similar problem today with some help here
[08:52] <vulcanium> try choosing the second option in grub
[08:53] <vulcanium> and then follow this guide... http://www.phpfi.com/161927
[08:53] <vulcanium> it worked for me
[08:53] <Anders0> the one with "safe craphics" or whatever? dosnt work :)
[08:53] <Anders0> ill have no problem installing the drivers.. if i could just get a commandline
[08:54] <TheGateKeeper> vulcanium: Anders0 looks like the edge drivers are shit
[08:55] <TheGateKeeper> Anders0: use a livecd and chroot in
[08:55] <Anders0> I am using the livecd
[08:55] <Anders0> Im pretty sure i had the same problem with Dapper, had to use the Alternative cd
[08:55] <TheGateKeeper> Anders0: mount your / filesystem then & chroot
[08:56] <Anders0> Edgy isnt installed yet, its the Desktop cd that dosnt work
[08:57] <vulcanium> ohh this is on the live cd?
[08:57] <Anders0> yeah
[08:57] <vulcanium> I had the same issue
[08:57] <TheGateKeeper> ohhh
[08:57] <vulcanium> get the alternate install cd
[08:57] <vulcanium> then you will have to follow the guide I linked you to mostl ikely
[08:57] <TheGateKeeper> yep that has a text installer
[08:57] <vulcanium> my sound still isn't working
[08:57] <TheGateKeeper> now you tell us :-)
[08:57] <vulcanium> kmixer picks it up
[08:58] <TheGateKeeper> !sound
[08:58] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[08:58] <vulcanium> but, I can't get anything out of the spdif out or the analog out
[08:58] <Anders0> okay, i ended up doing the same thing last time.. never got KDevelop working, and screwed the system pretty much trying to install Xgl/Compiz :P
[09:00] <vulcanium> why are some applications dependant on the shell you use?
[09:01] <nikola> hello guys i need help blanking a cdrw
[09:01] <nikola>  i am getting the following error: Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied
[09:02] <DaSkreech> What are you doing?
[09:02] <DaSkreech>  blanking it on the command line?
[09:02] <nikola> nope using k3b and gnomebaker same message
[09:05] <Arlington> how to change permissions for a file?
[09:06] <LjL> man chmod
[09:06] <nabil> hi everyone
[09:06] <insanekane> hi all
[09:06] <LjL> or rather, google chmod, since the man page is not incredibly helpful
[09:06] <insanekane> Arlington: in GUI, right click and select Properties
[09:06] <nabil> count me in..have installed kubuntu first time
[09:06] <insanekane> Arlington: in CLI, use chmod ... e.g., chmod +x filebnaame to make it executable for you
[09:07] <DaSkreech> tried starting it with kdesu ?
[09:07] <nabil> anyone know how do i get 1280 X 800 resolution on my laptop
[09:07] <insanekane> nabil: the display resolution doesnt have that as an option ?
[09:07] <LjL> nabil: if you don't see it in System Settings, then a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" may be due
[09:07] <LjL> !fixres
[09:07] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:08] <Arlington> it said operation not alloved (translated from swedish.
[09:08] <fdoving> then use sudo.
[09:09] <Arlington> no change :-(
[09:10] <DaSkreech> Arlington: Who owns the file?
[09:10] <wildchild> during downloading some package I press ctrl + t. Will this effect or harm my previous downloading
[09:11] <Arlington> i have this program called slimserver taht created a "subuser" called slimserver.
[09:11] <Arlington> and when the program runs it needs acces to that file but can't acces it. i don't know how to get it to work
[09:11] <Arlington> writeacces.
[09:12] <DaSkreech> Arlington: Who owns the file?
[09:13] <Arlington> that user called slimserver
[09:13] <zorglu_> ls -l yourfilename
[09:13] <Arlington> but that is no user that is possible to logon with. i'am kind of lost because i don't know the difference with my account user (jonas) and that user called slimserver
[09:15] <zorglu_> the only case i see where root is unable to write a file is when write access is denied, can you paste here a ls -l thefilenameyouaretalkingabout
[09:15] <DaSkreech> Arlington: when you ls -l the file there should be something like -r-x-rwx---
[09:15] <DaSkreech> can you paste that here?
[09:17] <Arlington> -rwxr-xr-x 1 slimserver nogroup 5412 2006-10-09 11:07 slimserver.pref
[09:17] <wildchild> how do I set katapult
[09:17] <LjL> "set" to what?
[09:18] <DaSkreech> Arlington: ok good and what error are you getting?
[09:18] <Arlington> in my log file for the program it says 2006-10-09 21:12:48.5279 ERROR: Cannot write to preferences file /etc/slimserver.conf, any changes made will not be preserved for the next startup of the server
[09:18] <zorglu_> Arlington: "kdesu kate slimserver.pref" should be able to edit and modify this file
[09:18] <Arlington> sorry wron entry.
[09:19] <zorglu_> ok forget my sentence :)
[09:19] <zorglu_> ls -ln slimserver.pref <- to get the groupe id
[09:19] <DaSkreech> May I just note that simserver.conf != slimserver.pref ?
[09:19] <LjL> wildchild, what do you mean "how do i set katapult"?
[09:19] <zorglu_> maouaouaoua :)
[09:20] <zorglu_> indeed :) ok off im way to lame to help :)
[09:20] <Arlington> aaah the problem is that slimserver.pref i  root- root how can  i delete a file through console?
[09:22] <Arlington> DaSkreech:  how can i delete a file through console?
[09:22] <DaSkreech> Arlington: why are you deleting it?
[09:22] <DaSkreech> just change the owner
[09:23] <Arlington> how can i change the owner then?
[09:23] <DaSkreech> sudo chown <newowner> filename
[09:24] <Arlington> DaSkreech: Access denied
[09:24] <yeti> i'd like to set hotkeys for changing workspaces (Alt+F2 for second ws e.g.) but can't find the menu option where i can do so, can somebody help?
[09:28] <DaSkreech> Arlington: who are you logged in as now?
[09:28] <DaSkreech> type whoami
[09:29] <Arlington> returns jonas
[09:31] <tictric_> yeti: I don't know where that's coded into but I wouldn't change that one. That one works across all *nixes and is somewhat of a standard.
[09:31] <yeti> tictric_, so what is standard? i though alt+f(number) was, but it doesn't work here
[09:31] <tictric_> Even if you haven't got X it works on the console (but that's where it was introduced first of course)
[09:32] <yeti> i'm NOT talking about non-X ttys/vcs here, i'm talking about X, and alt-f2/f3 etc does NOT work
[09:32] <zorglu_> yeti: kmenu -> system setting -> regional + accessibility -> keyboard shortcut
[09:32] <tictric_> yeti: ah, sorry. CTRL-F! bla bla
[09:32] <tictric_> yeti: ah, sorry. CTRL-F1 bla bla
[09:32] <yeti> zorglu_, tictric_, thanks
[09:33] <zorglu_> yeti: not that they are already bound to other actions. personnally i use 'window key' -> f1 f2 etc.. to switch desktop
[09:33] <zorglu_> not=note
[09:33] <yeti> okay
[09:33] <heidi> In file does kde store its info for restore session? I tried starting beryl-manager from cmdline and it crashes and now running startx x crsahes because kde want to recover my beryl-manger process how do I stop it from that?
[09:34] <heidi> In which file ...
[09:34] <zorglu_> heidi: tried to look at /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[09:35] <zorglu_> ?
[09:35] <Arlington> DaSkreech
[09:35] <Arlington> DaSkreech: ?
[09:35] <intelikey> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)
[09:35] <intelikey> why am i getting this error ?
[09:35] <DaSkreech> Arlington: sorry
[09:35] <heidi> zorglu_: I just want to stop kde from restooriing last sessionan all will be fine
[09:36] <DaSkreech> That is your main user?
[09:36] <zorglu_> heidi: another possibility i see is using the kdm menu, you can choose the session. i dunno where kde store this particular info... maybe in ~/.kde somewhere
[09:37] <heidi> I cant start x
[09:37] <heidi> I am in comd line
[09:37] <Arlington> DaSkreech: means you don't know or?
[09:37] <heidi> X crashes because it want to restore old session in which i called veryl-manger
[09:37] <zorglu_> heidi: not even kdm ? the "graphical login" stuff ?
[09:37] <heidi> I start X using startx
[09:38] <heidi> But this doent help now because it want to restore old session
[09:38] <DaSkreech> Arlington: Who was your first user?
[09:38] <DaSkreech> heidi: XGL?
[09:38] <heidi> I mean I had normal X running using startx the i ran beryl-manager from konsole
[09:38] <dennister> I am getting so sick of this...fix one prob, fix creates anotehr problem, fix to that causes another...
[09:39] <dennister> re-starting kde pps. bbs
[09:39] <heidi> And now it X crashes when kde starts loafding previous session
[09:39] <Arlington> how do u mean. my only user is this one called jonas
[09:39] <heidi> So all I need to know is how to stop restorring old kde session
[09:40] <DaSkreech> Arlington: Ok good That's what I wanted to know :)
[09:40] <Arlington> DaSkreech: soo...
[09:40] <DaSkreech> and sudo chown slimserver /path/to/file gives access denied?
[09:41] <Arlington> DaSkreech: yes
[09:42] <DaSkreech> Is the slimserver running?
[09:42] <Arlington> yes
[09:42] <DaSkreech> Stop it
[09:42] <Arlington> how do i do that :-S
[09:43] <DaSkreech> I don't know you started it :)
[09:43] <Arlington> bah.
[09:43] <Arlington> it's a .sh file...
[09:43] <DaSkreech> Where is it?
[09:44] <Arlington> "/usr/local/slimserver"
[09:44] <Arlington> .pl file it is...
[09:44] <DaSkreech> Ah perl :)
[09:45] <Arlington> yes.
[09:45] <tony_> hello everyone.. can i intall LILO bootloader
[09:46] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get install lilo
[09:46] <tony_> would that override my grub withouth problme with windows partition ?
[09:47] <Dragonball26> hallo an alle kann mir jemand sagen wie ich unter kubuntu eine partition einrichten kann um windows zu installieren?
[09:47] <wildchild> !lilo
[09:47] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[09:47] <tony_> i guess i stay with grub :(
[09:47] <DaSkreech> Arlington: It runs with no parameters?
[09:48] <n8k99> Dragonball: !de
[09:48] <Arlington> DaSkreech:  i have this start script.,..
[09:48] <n8k99> yikes didnt work
[09:48] <notech> why is it recommended to use grub? just personal preference of whoever put the definition in the bot?
[09:48] <DaSkreech> Arlington: Is there a stop script?
[09:49] <DaSkreech> n8k99: Like this
[09:49] <DaSkreech>  !de > Dragonball26
[09:49] <Arlington> probably. some where.
[09:49] <DaSkreech> See if you can find one. After the server is stopped you will likely be given access to the file
[09:50] <Arlington> okay :-)
[09:50] <zorglu_> notech: i would say that grub is the defacto standard. so it is likely better to use grub to get support
[09:50] <notech> zorglu_: standard?
[09:50] <zorglu_> ?
[09:50] <LjL>
[09:50] <notech> you mean kubuntu chose grub so that's considered standard?
[09:51] <zorglu_> LjL: :)
[09:51] <LjL> notech: i think most distributions are using grub these days
[09:51] <zorglu_> notech: no i mean because grub is a lot more used than lilo
[09:51] <notech> i only run one other distro and it uses lilo, dunno about others
[09:52] <Arlington> i know have access but using "sudo chown <newowner> filename" dosn't make any difference.
[09:52] <t0taln00b> slackware based distros still use lilo
[09:52] <zorglu_> notech: i know suse and fedora uses grub
[09:52] <zorglu_> notech: which distro do you use which is based on lilo
[09:52] <notech> sounds like slackware and mandriva use lilo
[09:52] <t0taln00b> mandriva uses grub
[09:53] <notech> default in mandriva is lilo
[09:53] <t0taln00b> yeah u can pick :)
[09:53] <notech> grub is an option though
[09:53] <t0taln00b> but
[09:53] <t0taln00b> zenwalk uses lilo
[09:54] <age1172> how to enable direct rendering?
[09:54] <notech> thanks, was just curious why grub was recommended on kubuntu
[09:54] <zorglu_> age1172: install a video driver supporting it
[09:54] <age1172> i've installed a game
[09:54] <t0taln00b> and as i mentioned earlier slack based distros use lilo
[09:54] <vulcanium> damn this audio problem is pissing me off
[09:54] <xxx> ahoj je tu nejakej cech ?
[09:54] <LjL> notech: i think it's mostly just because it's the default, and hence tested by more people, and more people know how it works. not to mention that it's got more features, even though it *may* also be more confusing
[09:54] <age1172> and it says enable direct rendering
[09:55] <LjL> cz
[09:55] <LjL> !cz
[09:55] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[09:55] <age1172> my graphics are very slow
[09:55] <zorglu_> glxinfo | grep rendering <- to know if you have it or not age1172
[09:55] <vulcanium> I cannot seem to get any sort of auio output at all
[09:56] <age1172> it says no
[09:56] <age1172> my card is ati radeon mobility x1600
[09:56] <zorglu_> !ati
[09:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:56] <zorglu_> age1172: install those drivers and it should be ok
[09:57] <age1172> thanks i will try
[09:57] <dennister> i can't believe i've actually got this working
[09:58] <dennister> oops...forgot to configure it properly...brb
[10:00] <dennister> hmmm; it seems to have kept old settings :-)
[10:01] <vulcanium> w0000t
[10:01] <vulcanium> sound now too
[10:01] <vulcanium> but its still funky
[10:01] <dennister> it's such a pain to set azureus's settings
[10:01] <vulcanium> no spdif out
[10:01] <vulcanium> and the only analog output is coming out of the wrong port
[10:02] <pplu> kubuntu para espaoles?
[10:02] <LjL> !es
[10:02] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:02] <dennister> if anyone wants a dragndrop filesharing prog, azureus does work, but it;s a pain
[10:02] <dennister> hi LeeJunFan
[10:03] <pplu> gracias
[10:03] <LeeJunFan> dennister: hello
[10:03] <dennister> pps will be in good hands now
[10:04] <dennister> <-----is doing ok for a change
[10:04] <Lozmir> nabedn! mein kubuntu erkennt noch meine digikam die ber usb als mass storage erkannt wird mountet diese aber nicht mehr automatisch wie gestern noch. was kann ich tun?
[10:04] <LjL> !de
[10:04] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:04] <hyper> !lspci
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lspci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <Lozmir> sry wrong channel
[10:05] <dennister> it's just that no one seems to want the mp3's i have available :(
[10:05] <dennister> <--kicks herself
[10:06] <dennister> i forget to make them torrent files! lol
[10:06] <n8k99> !jingle
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jingle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <dennister> hi n8k99
[10:06] <n8k99> hi dennister
[10:07] <n8k99> how's it going dennister
[10:08] <dennister> i finally got my azureus upgraded :)
[10:08] <dennister> the one on the packer lists is way too old
[10:08] <age1172> zorglu_: how can i identify video card's bus identifier correctly
[10:08] <age1172> my card is pci express 16 x
[10:09] <zorglu_> age1172: lspci will give you the content of the pci bus, find your video card in it
[10:09] <zorglu_> 0000:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M <- 01:05 for me
[10:09] <vulcanium> ugghhh
[10:10] <vulcanium> with nvmixer
[10:12] <age1172> zorglu_:it says 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 71c
[10:12] <dennister> but dang it if that popup applet won't go away again!
[10:12] <dennister> at one point it was finally going away nicely
[10:12] <bLaZeD> has anyone had problems with a few repos....i had to take out the opera plf and umm..there was one more.....i hope its not just me.....
[10:12] <zorglu_> age1172: so it is 1.0 :)
[10:14] <dennister> bLaZeD: some of the repos r out of date
[10:14] <Arlington> how to change the group preferences of a file? like chown
[10:14] <zorglu_> if you want the bleeding edge, you can use edgy
[10:15] <zorglu_> Arlington: use 'chgrp'
[10:15] <bLaZeD> dennister, whats the best thing to do?...just comment out the ones that arnt working atm and use the ones that are?
[10:15] <age1172> but why it is unknown
[10:15] <dennister> I'm going to try and wean myself off the packagers...download newest apps in tar format
[10:15] <age1172> willthis affect anything
[10:15] <zorglu_> age1172: dunno
[10:15] <zorglu_> age1172: what is important is the driver, not the lspci display
[10:16] <Arlington> thnx
[10:16] <dennister> i don't know...the packagers usually take care of dependencies...but apparently aptitude does that better
[10:16] <zorglu_> dennister: if you do that, dont forget to mention it while getting help, as it may affects greatly the system
[10:16] <dennister> anyone? does aptitude also use the same repositories as the packagers?
[10:17] <zorglu_> what is the 'packagers'
[10:17] <dennister> zorglu_: ok, i will
[10:17] <Hawkwind> dennister: Probably not a good idea.  If you want to compile everything then you probably shouldn't run a .deb or .rpm based distro
[10:17] <zorglu_> all the programmes downloading package automatically use the list in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:17] <dennister> the packagers are adept, apt, synamptic...
[10:17] <age1172> then what i should write as a card bus identifier?
[10:17] <Hawkwind> dennister: That will certainly cause great issues, especially when trying to update your system and many other things
[10:18] <Hawkwind> dennister: Why not just learn to use apt-get from the CLI.  It's not that hard and it works better than most of the GUI package managers
[10:18] <age1172> AGP:01:00.0
[10:18] <dennister> so what's the alternative? download an app, after much headache find out its old, then remove and download newer one?
[10:18] <age1172> or something else
[10:18] <dennister> like i just did with azureus?