[12:13] <sercik> someone knows a substitute of synaptic under kde??
[12:14] <eams> sercik, http://pastebin.ca/485173
[12:14] <eams> sercik, adept is a substitute, I think
[12:15] <sercik> yes but probably is not good like synaptic
[12:16] <sercik> ok do------ sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-settings nvidia-xconfig
[12:16] <eams> And now?
[12:17] <sercik> eams i think that many people here help me but trust me you need to study
[12:17] <sercik> and read web pages
[12:17] <AFaith> have a question
[12:17] <eams> Ok, thank you
[12:17] <AFaith> whats the name of
[12:17] <AFaith> the package that includes all the utilities
[12:17] <sercik> this is a very very good start http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[12:17] <AFaith> for compiling programs in linux ?
[12:18] <AFaith> my bad, in ubuntu
[12:18] <sercik> AFaith you need to install build-essential
[12:18] <felipe_> hey guys  ... how I put a alias in bashrc ?
[12:18] <jeroen__> Hello, I'm back ^^
[12:18] <AFaith> sercik: hello again. thanks ;))
[12:18] <eams> sercik, thank you
[12:18] <eams> !
[12:19] <sercik> felipe_
[12:19] <AFaith> btw, i've kept my promise :))
[12:19] <sercik> for example alias ls ='ls -sa --color=auto'
[12:19] <AFaith> i've installed feisty on one of my neighbours pc
[12:19] <AFaith> :P
[12:19] <sercik> alias ll = 'ls -l'
[12:19] <sercik> if you write alias on konsole you will see all alias definde
[12:19] <sercik> defined
[12:20] <AFaith> i'm curios about one thing
[12:20] <sercik> jeroen__ what do you do
[12:20] <AFaith> on a AMD64 based-pc
[12:20] <AFaith> what would you install ?
[12:21] <AFaith> ubuntu 32bit edition or 64bit edition ?
[12:21] <jeroen__> what do you mean?
[12:21] <AFaith> whats the main difference ?
[12:21] <sercik> AFaith the only problem is with browser plugin
[12:21] <luca> hi again
[12:21] <felipe_> sercik .. yes ...but i want keep this forever ... when I close the shell  the alias go away you know ?
[12:21] <AFaith> i mean in perfomation
[12:21] <sercik> flash for example doesn't have a 64 bit plugin
[12:21] <sercik> no it is impossible
[12:21] <luca> does anyone know how to embed a pdf reader other than acrobat into firefox?
[12:22] <sercik> the file .bashrc is executed every time you open a shell
[12:22] <jeroen__> do you guy's know some very good applications that I can use?
[12:22] <AFaith> sercik: are you telling me that i can't use the flash plugin in the 64 ubuntu edition :| ?
[12:22] <sercik> AFaith you canread on internet
[12:22] <crimsun> AFaith: unless you create a 32-bit chroot or use the plugin wrapper, yes.
[12:22] <sercik> ok crimsun
[12:22] <sercik> you are better than me
[12:22] <sercik> in not difficult but is a problem
[12:22] <sercik> you need to install 32bit firefox
[12:23] <sercik> athlon64 doesn't have problems to do that
[12:23] <sercik> hi crimsun
[12:23] <sercik> do you remember me??
[12:23] <AFaith> ok ... i'll  google about this later
[12:24] <AFaith> now, i'm trying to make the fuse kernel module to install ntfs-3g
[12:24] <pitecantropus> how to burn UIF image?
[12:24] <AFaith> damn, it's fast :|
[12:24] <felipe_> yes ... but with the comand (ex: alias ls='ls -a' ) don't go to bashrc ...
[12:24] <sercik> felipe_ do this
[12:24] <sercik> cd enter
[12:24] <sercik> then vi .bashrc
[12:25] <i810> I've got a weird issue with i810 + VGA out on a laptop with kubuntu feisty: FN+F5 correctly sends the signal to my external monitor, and pressing FN+F5 again lets me see it on both the external monitor and my LCD. But after some time, the LCD shuts off and I can't re-enable it. It stays off no matter what I do (even after i810switch lcd on).
[12:25] <sercik> then add the line alias ls = 'ls -l' for example
[12:25] <sercik> felipe_ could be that another file also execute alias.... try to search under /etc/profile
[12:26] <felipe_> sercik ...ok I'll see
[12:26] <jeroen__> Is it possible to run .iso?
[12:27] <sercik> jeroen__ you can mount the iso
[12:27] <sercik> do you know daemon tools for linux??
[12:27] <sercik> sorry daemon tools for windows
[12:28] <sercik> crimsun hi!!
[12:30] <jeroen__> wow kubuntu just hung :s
[12:30] <sercik> godnight to all people here!!!!
[12:31] <AFaith> i've noticed something strange in feisty
[12:32] <AFaith> in fstab
[12:32] <octoberdan> I closed the meter that shows how much power is left in my laptop's battery, how would I reopen it?
[12:32] <octoberdan> AFaith: What have you noticed?
[12:32] <AFaith> the adress of the partition it's not /dev/sda1 for example
[12:32] <Agron33> why is WINE disabled in my 64 bit kubuntu installer?
[12:32] <AFaith> it's UUID=e6027da5-8919-44a3-9775-f0dff83328f8 or something like that
[12:32] <octoberdan> AFaith: UID?
[12:32] <octoberdan> yeah
[12:32] <AFaith> yep
[12:32] <AFaith> why ?
[12:32] <octoberdan> AFaith: That's not just Feisty, I had the same scheme with Edgy
[12:32] <jeroen__> are there any good games for linux?
[12:33] <sercik> do you have a raid?
[12:33] <AFaith> jeroen__: try the best game ever in linux :)) tuxracer
[12:33] <AFaith> the best
[12:33] <sercik> jeroen__ before try to learn linux :)
[12:33] <octoberdan> Agron33: You have to go through some hoops I think to get wine working with 64bit linux
[12:33] <jeroen__> tuxracer
[12:33] <sercik> i think the best games are planet-penguin-racer and chromium
[12:33] <felipe_> sercik ...hoe can I save a modification in vi ?
[12:33] <AFaith> octoberdan: since dapper i've never install any other ubuntu`s version
[12:34] <octoberdan> jeroen__: The quake series
[12:34] <pitecantropus> i810, FN+F5 works and for TV output?
[12:34] <octoberdan> jeroen__: The doom series
[12:34] <sercik> vi have two possibilty edit mode and command mode
[12:34] <AFaith> sercik: yes, the SATA2 hdd is mounted in a RAID-capable system
[12:34] <sercik> you press ins to go to edit mode and you can write
[12:34] <omega> Hi. I've got trouble making kubuntu recognize my mic and line jacks I think. Sound works fine, but my mic doesn't work and Creox displays an error message when I try to use it
[12:34] <jeroen__> any online games?
[12:34] <AFaith> but it doesn't use it
[12:35] <premier_> how does ext3 compare to reiserFS?  Would I want reiser on my new desktop, or should I just stick with ext3?  I'll be using raid
[12:35] <sercik> then you need to press esc to enter in command mode
[12:35] <sercik> and to save for example you need to do :w
[12:35] <octoberdan> jeroen__: You can get World of Warcraft working with wine
[12:35] <pitecantropus> jeroen, try TREMULOUS
[12:35] <octoberdan> jeroen__: You can also play the quake games online
[12:36] <jeroen__> I have world of warcfraft but I don't play it anymore
[12:36] <sercik> felipe_ probably you can use a graphic editor
[12:36] <sercik> like krite for example
[12:36] <sercik> or kate
[12:36] <sercik> but vi is the best
[12:36] <sercik> it have syntax highlightning
[12:36] <sercik> sorry kwrite not krite
[12:36] <jeroen__> Now I downloading Tremulous
[12:36] <pitecantropus> jeroen_, and PLANESHIFT worth to try
[12:37] <sercik> AFaith that string is bacuse you have a raid
[12:37] <sercik> the command to configure is dmraid if i remember
[12:37] <AFaith> let me check it
[12:37] <AFaith> command not found :(
[12:37] <sercik> i'm not very good but....
[12:37] <sercik> a raid is not like a phisical volume
[12:38] <sercik> like /dev/hda
[12:38] <AFaith> :)) you good enogh ;) belive me, i've seen all kind of peoples :))
[12:38] <sercik> but don't worry to understand taht string
[12:38] <felipe_> yes i have the kate ...but I am trying in the terminal
[12:38] <AFaith> felipe_: try this marbles console-based editor : joe
[12:39] <AFaith> it's the best in my opinion
[12:39] <AFaith> it won't cost you much if you just try it => apt-get install joe
[12:39] <felipe_> ok  AFaith ...I'll see
[12:40] <i810> pitecantropus: yes, I can enable TV out with FN+F5; but not re-enable the LCD once it's gotten off
[12:40] <jeroen__> omg vlc media player is so good :D
[12:40] <sercik> i think that for kde kaffeine is the best
[12:40] <pitecantropus> it`s i810 chipset?
[12:40] <AFaith> jeroen__: ask sercik if he remembers the trick i've played with him a few hours ago :))
[12:40] <i810> pitecantropus: yes
[12:41] <AFaith> sercik: kaffeine really rocks for kde users
[12:41] <sercik> AFaith what do you mean?
[12:41] <AFaith> the little trick
[12:41] <AFaith> i've done a couple of hours ago
[12:41] <AFaith> entering the channel
[12:41] <AFaith> and asking like a totally n00b
[12:41] <pitecantropus> i810, what drivers are you using
[12:41] <AFaith> what do i need to play a divx file
[12:42] <AFaith> and after you've said VLC
[12:42] <jeroen__> are my earphones broken or is it just the quality of themp3 :s
[12:42] <scanman> selam trk var m
[12:42] <sercik> ah yes i remember
[12:42] <AFaith> i've provided you a nice link with a review...
[12:42] <i810> pitecantropus: the i810 driver
[12:42] <sercik> i like very much this channel
[12:42] <omega> I have problems with kubuntu and sound input. I can get my mic or my line jacks to do anything
[12:42] <sercik> i use kubuntu only for this channel
[12:42] <i810> omega: I have the same problem
[12:43] <AFaith> have another question in my mind ... now, that i've installed ntfs-3g i want to do something good and convert it into a .deb pack ... any good tutorials ?
[12:43] <pitecantropus> i810, you know drivers for i950?
[12:43] <AFaith> or can you share me your experience ?
[12:43] <pitecantropus> i need one :)
[12:43] <sercik> AFaith sorry but ntfs-3g is already on the repositiry i don't understand
[12:43] <i810`> pitecantropus: no, alas I don't
[12:44] <AFaith> sercik: i don't belive thats the latest version ;)
[12:44] <sercik> ah ok
[12:44] <scanman> mplayer turkish font problem of of :(
[12:44] <sercik> for rpm i know a program called checkinstall
[12:44] <i810`> anyhow, I hope this works eventually; for now I just shit down and restart
[12:44] <i810`> *shut* down
[12:44] <sercik> i don't know if is usable also under debian
[12:44] <jeroen__> what formats does kubuntu normaly plays?
[12:45] <sercik> i think that feisty play all
[12:45] <pitecantropus> i810, what laptop?
[12:45] <sercik> because they have abandoned tha politic to don't use proprietary software
[12:45] <sercik> |multimedia | jeroen__
[12:45] <sercik> !multimedia | jeroen__
[12:45] <ubotu> jeroen__: Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[12:46] <AFaith> can you give me the adress of that page where you can see the contents of a repo ?
[12:46] <felipe_> Hey sercik ... thank's for the help man ...
[12:46] <sercik> don't worry i need also much help
[12:47] <AFaith> we all need help ...
[12:47] <sercik> and i want to help for what i can
[12:47] <felipe_> AFaith .. thank ... joe was very useful
[12:47] <AFaith> maybe we need today
[12:47] <AFaith> maybe tomorrow ;)
[12:47] <sercik> maybe forever....
[12:47] <AFaith> felipe_: your welcome :) proud to be useful!
[12:47] <AFaith> :)) lol
[12:47] <Dekkard> heh
[12:47] <AFaith> anyway, can you answer my last question ? please :D
[12:47] <Dekkard> youguys .. need to hug?
[12:48] <Dekkard> lol
[12:48] <alexalux>
[12:48] <AFaith> pretty please :D
[12:48] <oliver> when I plug in a bluetooth device kbluetoothd crashed
[12:48] <AFaith> Dekkard: group hug ? :))
[12:48] <oliver> crashed
[12:48] <Dekkard> ack!!
[12:48] <oliver> what should I do
[12:48] <sercik> felipe_ remember the guide http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[12:49] <AFaith> oliver: forgive me for saying such a non-sense, but try not to plugit :))
[12:49] <AFaith> just a joke
[12:49] <oliver> lol
[12:49] <oliver> any ideas?
[12:49] <sercik> AFaith do you use cannabis?
[12:49] <drarem> oliver, you mean you're rebooting and it crashes?
[12:49] <AFaith> sercik: =))))) lol
[12:49] <jeroen__> another question here :p
[12:49] <AFaith> no
[12:49] <Dekkard> *perk*
[12:49] <felipe_> tks .. I'll read more ;D
[12:49] <AFaith> oliver try looking into the logs
[12:50] <sercik> i like cannabis and alcohol :)
[12:50] <AFaith> maybe /var/log/syslog
[12:50] <sercik> and i like good friends that smoke and drink with me
[12:50] <AFaith> sercik: i'm not :))
[12:50] <Dekkard> what is it.. a bluetooth keyboard?
[12:50] <scanman> bir tane trk ksa aardm neyse
[12:50] <sercik> is a joke!!
[12:50] <jeroen__> I installed The Gimp while it was on my desktop, it's in a folder. May I move that folder?
[12:50] <Dekkard> is that turkish?
[12:50] <AFaith> :)) nice one
[12:50] <omega_point> no one has any clue where to start to fix my mic/line problem?
[12:50] <sercik> only i use a littele quantity of alcohol sometimes
[12:51] <sercik> omega_point do you see mic line into mixer?
[12:51] <AFaith> sercik: i'm drinking alcohol only at parties
[12:51] <oliver> where are the logs?
[12:51] <AFaith> and there are only 4 times a year i party
[12:51] <AFaith> 1. christmas
[12:51] <sercik> i like barbecue and wine
[12:51] <AFaith> 2. easter
[12:51] <AFaith> 3. birthday
[12:51] <omega_point> sercik: yes, but as output
[12:51] <AFaith> 4. every day :))
[12:51] <Dekkard> omega_point:  are you having difficulty sound capture off your Mic?
[12:51] <sercik> oliver are under/var/log/program_name
[12:51] <AFaith> oliver: the logs are in /var/log
[12:51] <drarem> the smoke blowing into FL is God's punishment for us messing with smoker's rights
[12:52] <felipe_> AFaith ...hahah ... every day !!
[12:52] <AFaith> try this : cat /var/log/syslog|grep bluetooth
[12:52] <omega_point> sercik: in input I have 3 "capture", an IEC958 and front mic and front mic boost
[12:52] <omega_point> Dekkard: Yes I do
[12:52] <omega_point> Mic and Line
[12:52] <sercik> drarem i hate people that smoke also if i smoke a little
[12:52] <drarem> lol
[12:52] <AFaith> felipe_: you've earned the big prize :)) your the only one that managed to understand the joke :))
[12:52] <oliver> what's the log name
[12:53] <AFaith> syslog
[12:53] <Dekkard> omega_point:  i think that may be a bug.. I am having the same problem.. i can hear my mic.. but using audacity.,. i cannto record..
[12:53] <sercik> have you enbled mic in registration?
[12:53] <omega_point> I realized I have that problem when using creox, to mess around with my guitar
[12:53] <oliver> there isn't a log
[12:53] <Dekkard> my mic is enabled in the mixer..
[12:53] <omega_point> sercik: how do I do that?
[12:53] <jeroen__>  installed The Gimp while it was on my desktop, it's in a folder. May I move that folder?
[12:54] <Dekkard> joren?
[12:54] <sercik> i don't know? :)
[12:54] <felipe_> were you talk from ?
[12:54] <Dekkard>  you compiled the gimp from source?
[12:54] <sercik> i have never used mic in linux
[12:54] <oliver> jeroen_, if allelse fails move it see if it works, if it doesn't move it back
[12:54] <oliver> there isn't a log
[12:54] <felipe_> ops where ?
[12:54] <jeroen__> I'll try it :p
[12:54] <sercik> oliver which log do you search?
[12:54] <wolferine> anyone use LDAP on there system?
[12:54] <oliver> kbluetoothd
[12:55] <oliver> bluetooth
[12:55] <oliver> everything with blue lol
[12:55] <oliver> and there is nothing
[12:55] <sercik> i don't konw if anyone use ldap but i don't know what is ldap.... lol
[12:55] <jeroen__> Yeah, I still works ^^
[12:55] <Dekkard> istn that a business mail system?
[12:55] <sercik> Dekkard don't do the teacher :)
[12:55] <AFaith> hey ... mates, i've asked you a question... does anyone of you know whats the adress of the page were i can see details about ubuntu repos ?
[12:56] <AFaith> Dekkard: i know that LDAP it's a system that enables centralized login
[12:56] <sercik> what do you mean with details??
[12:56] <AFaith> wikipedia surely knows the answer :))
[12:56] <AFaith> but i'm too damn lazy to ask
[12:57] <AFaith> sercik: i want to see what ntfs-3g is in ubuntu's repo
[12:57] <Dekkard> The Lightweight Directory Access Protocol, or LDAP (IPA: [l dp] ), is an application protocol for querying and modifying directory services running over TCP/IP.
[12:57] <oliver> what should i do AFaitg?
[12:57] <sercik> sudo apt-cache policy ntfs-3g
[12:57] <wolferine> anyone use LDAP on there system? if so, what do they use it for?
[12:58] <AFaith> duuuude :|
[12:58] <sercik> AFaith this help you?
[12:58] <AFaith> i didn't know anything about that command
[12:58] <AFaith> thanks sercik!
[12:58] <sercik> eh eh
[12:58] <sercik> i'm not bad
[12:58] <AFaith> :)) lol be proud :))
[12:58] <sercik> but that command i have learned in this channel
[12:59] <oliver> it says Internal error when I press on bluetooth browser
[12:59] <sercik> that command is very useful when you can't resolve dependencies
[12:59] <AFaith> oliver: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LDAP check this out
[12:59] <sercik> for example in the repo there is xorg-7.8 and xorg-devel-7.6
[12:59] <sercik> you can't install xorg-devel-7.6
[01:00] <oliver> what's that for?
[01:00] <sercik> with that command you can see the different version and you undertand the problem
[01:01] <AFaith> sercik: as i was suspecting, the ntfs-3g version in ubuntu repos is 1.328 and the latest is 1.417
[01:01] <sercik> i don't know...
[01:01] <AFaith> so ... it would really be useful for ubuntu users to have this last version
[01:01] <AFaith> so, how do i make a .deb pack ?
[01:01] <sercik> i think that is not good use windows drive under linux with write access... this in general
[01:01] <AFaith> any tutorials ?
[01:02] <sercik> search on google and don't break my .... here lol
[01:02] <AFaith> sercik: if you use linux and windows on the same pc you have to
[01:02] <sercik> to..?
[01:02] <AFaith> i thought that you all might have some experience with that
[01:03] <AFaith> i ment you don't have any choises
[01:03] <oliver>  AFaith what am I suposed to do LDAS
[01:03] <sercik> yes you are right but i want only tell that is not good to write on a ntfs partition with linux
[01:03] <AFaith> sorry oliver, my bad
[01:03] <sercik> a little time ago was not possible now i'm not sure....
[01:03] <oliver> lol
[01:03] <AFaith> it wasn't for you
[01:03] <AFaith> wolferine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LDAP check this out
[01:03] <oliver> what can i do to get bluetooth working?
[01:04] <wolferine> AFaith, already read it
[01:04] <wolferine> i was asking if anyone uses it
[01:04] <wolferine> and if so, why
[01:04] <AFaith> unless you provide some logs or more data, we can't really help you oliver
[01:04] <Tarsus> Hello, anyone feel like debugging a newb with Samba?
[01:04] <sercik> sorry oliver i can't help
[01:04] <oliver> I haven't got any logs
[01:04] <sercik> i'm not so good
[01:04] <AFaith> if you've haven't got any logs maybe kbluetoothd it's not running
[01:05] <sercik> and now there aren't the best people writing
[01:05] <jeroen__> you guy's like amarok?
[01:05] <AFaith> try those command i've gave you earlier with su
[01:05] <sercik> amarok is very good
[01:05] <AFaith> jeroen__: i love amaroK
[01:05] <sercik> jeroen__ you can also try xmms if you like winamp
[01:05] <oliver> me too
[01:06] <AFaith> i've even install cywig on someones windows based computer to show him this marbles player :))
[01:06] <sercik> uau
[01:06] <sercik> AFaith you love amarok
[01:06] <eams> sercik, now I have a problem, now my screen's resolution is 800x600 and I can't put it in 1024x768
[01:06] <sercik> i like very much winamp on windows
[01:06] <sercik> hi eams
[01:06] <jeroen__> amarok always crashes with me :s
[01:07] <sercik> what have you donw??
[01:07] <sercik> done??
[01:07] <eams> I did what you said, and reboot
[01:07] <sercik> jeroen__ strange linux and linux programs don't crash
[01:07] <wolferine> lol
[01:07] <sercik> good
[01:08] <jeroen__> I get stuck
[01:08] <oliver> it's doesn't crash exactly it just doesn't let me do anything until I disconnect my bluetooth dongle then after I plug it in again it just freezes again
[01:08] <jeroen__> I have to terminate the program
[01:09] <sercik> now do ctrl-alt-F1 then do /etc/init.d/kdm stop then do nvidia-xconfig and then /etc/init.d/kdm start
[01:09] <jeroen__> I want to play an mp3 file, then It said, you want to enable mp3 playback.and then I get stuck
[01:09] <Daisuke_Ido> jeroen__: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[01:09] <sercik> attention tha you lost screen when do ctrl-alt-F1
[01:09] <jeroen__> thanks
[01:09] <eams> sercik, Slow please
[01:09] <jeroen__> I'll try that, when Adept has finished
[01:10] <sercik> eams you can read a guide on how to install nvidia drivers
[01:10] <oliver> it's doesn't crash exactly it just doesn't let me do anything until I disconnect my bluetooth dongle then after I plug it in again it just freezes again
[01:10] <sercik> i think that on chat is not simple
[01:11] <eams> Can I uninstall it, I think is better, If i can't to have beryl anyway...
[01:11] <jeroen__> I'm really startin to like this chat and Linux ^^
[01:11] <sercik> jeroen__ yu speak english well where are you from?
[01:12] <eams> can I? sercik
[01:13] <sercik> eams the problem is that you need to shut down X and we can't chat
[01:13] <jeroen__> I'm from Belgium
[01:13] <sercik> i'm from italy and the italian are not good in other languages
[01:14] <jeroen__> You speak english very well ^^ Better then me :p
[01:14] <adaptr> including the language of lurrrv?
[01:14] <eams> I'm from Costa Rica and don't speak english, thats funny!
[01:14] <Bi||aBong> i have a problem with wine when i try execute GTA San Andreas this close when start
[01:14] <sercik> jeroen__ don't take me in turn!!
[01:15] <wolferine> anyone use LDAP on there system? if so, what do they use it for?
[01:15] <sercik> the problem is that GTA run under windows you are in the wrong operatin system :)
[01:15] <Bi||aBong> umm
[01:16] <Bi||aBong> GTA don't run under Linux?
[01:16] <sercik> but GTA vice city was better than GTA San Anreas
[01:16] <Bi||aBong> with wine?
[01:16] <sercik> Bi||aBong i was joking I'm not goos with wine
[01:17] <sercik> many people are able play with linux but i think that linux is not for playing
[01:17] <Jeroenw__> I'm registerd ^^
[01:17] <drkns> hello fella
[01:17] <drkns> s
[01:18] <sercik> fella in italian means ass
[01:18] <Tarsus> sercik: Linux has better games off the bat than windows
[01:18] <sercik> not the ass but half ass
[01:18] <Tarsus> sercik:  dunno if that's worth anything though
[01:18] <drkns> i tried to install latest ati driver but it asked for xorg.conf file template even though it created one with a different name
[01:18] <drkns> i ment fellas and in english
[01:18] <sercik> Tarsus i don't understand
[01:19] <sercik> drkns i know :)
[01:19] <sercik> GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD night to all people i love you and linux!!!!!!
[01:19] <Tarsus> sercik: Linux computers come with an average of 30+ games with a fresh install, XP has minesweeper and solitaire. PS, thanks for the Fella crack, I'll be sure not to use it on the ppl at work :)
[01:20] <Tarsus> Linux is making progress on the game front, the only problem is 3d support IMO
[01:21] <AFaith> sercik: creating a deb pack it's not so easy
[01:21] <AFaith> if you wanna try to do this, check this tutorial out : http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/336
[01:21] <Skrot-> Tarsus:  Plus the effort needed to develop games with SDL/OpenGL compared to Microsofts XNA and nice development tools
[01:21] <sercik> Tarsus i don't want to beat with you but windows is for playing linux is for all other
[01:21] <sercik> tell me good night or i don't go to bed ..please!!!!
[01:21] <sercik> here is 01:21 pm i want go to bed
[01:22] <sercik> Good night
[01:22] <Tarsus> Skrot, very true, XNA is fun :)
[01:22] <Tarsus> good night, I am not looking to troll, I'm just saying that I enjoy gaming in both
[01:22] <Tarsus> But windows is better
[01:22] <Skrot-> No problem :)
[01:23] <sercik> ok goodbye see you soon
[01:23] <Filthpig> bah
[01:23] <AFaith> :))
[01:23] <Filthpig> all this alcohol
[01:23] <AFaith> goodnight sercik
[01:23] <AFaith> :))
[01:23] <drkns> bye
[01:23] <Jeroenw__> bye
[01:23] <AFaith> and don't forget to check this out too : http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8047723203.html
[01:23] <AFaith> =))
[01:24] <drkns> i need to set up my wirelesscard
[01:24] <Jeroenw__> I'm also gonna leave soon
[01:24] <drkns> its a bcm43xx card should i use fwcutter or ndiswrapper?
[01:25] <drkns> does fwcutter limit my speed to 11mbts/sec?
[01:25] <Tarsus> I am having a hard time sharing ressources via samba from my linux box to my gf's windows laptop
[01:25] <Jeroenw__> I'm tired
[01:26] <Jeroenw__> I'm gonna sleep a bit
[01:26] <Jeroenw__> see you guy's later
[01:26] <Jeroenw__> bye
[01:27] <AFaith> goodnight Jeroenw__!
[01:29] <nabz> how do i setup xampp (lampp) or somthing similar on linux?
[01:32] <aceta> nabz: sudo tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.6.1.tar.gz -C /opt
[01:32] <nabz> ty
[01:32] <aceta> then to start it: /opt/lampp/lampp start
[01:32] <aceta> np
[01:35] <navets> whats sudo cp /home/naaman/installers/alsa/* . mean
[01:35] <navets> what doe the * and . do
[01:35] <rulezzz> hi
[01:35] <nabz> it says 'XAMPP for Linux started' but nothing appears on 'http://localhost'
[01:35] <rulezzz> somebody recommends me an irc channel for ansi c programming help ?
[01:36] <nabz> XAMPP: Starting Apache with SSL ...
[01:36] <nabz> XAMPP: Error 127! Couldn't start Apache!
[01:36] <nabz> XAMPP: Starting diagnose...
[01:36] <nabz> XAMPP: Sorry, I've no idea what's going wrong.
[01:36] <nabz> :S
[01:36] <aceta> hm
[01:36] <aceta> you did it with sudo?
[01:36] <nabz> yep
[01:37] <wolferine> how can I view an NFS share on a local machine, in proftpd?
[01:37] <aceta> hm strange
[01:37] <aceta> but sorry i can't tell you what's wrong :p
[01:38] <nabz> :S :(
[01:38] <nabz> is there a better alternative to xamp?
[01:38] <aceta> i've only used xampp...
[01:39] <nabz> hmm
[01:39] <aceta> you could install apache and mysql manually, but that's more difficult
[01:39] <nabz> it just dont wanna start apache :|
[01:40] <nabz> hmm this seems interesting: http://www.apachefriends.org/f/viewtopic.php?p=100808&sid=e5e98f7eedd314de82667ecf8bbcace7
[01:40] <aro> !autostart
[01:40] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[01:42] <nabz> synaptic?
[01:42] <nabz> ah its a package manage, dw :)
[01:43] <aceta> yes ;)
[01:45] <nabz> meh this is annoying :( lol
[01:45] <knapp> How can I get Kopete to function w/o having to use Kwallet?
[01:46] <knapp> I don't want to have to enter a password everytime it opens.
[01:47] <aceta> so you've got no other apache or mysql installed?
[01:47] <nabz> dont think so
[01:48] <nabz> just installed kubuntu yesterday
[01:49] <Skuller> how do i fake my ip of that of another country like the US?
[01:50] <nabz> Skuller: Proxy server
[01:50] <Skuller> nabz: so do i need to do to get this runnin on kubuntu?
[01:50] <Skuller> what*
[01:50] <nabz> dont have a clue, lol.. im new to llinux myself.
[01:50] <nabz> TOR might work
[01:50] <Skuller> tor?
[01:50] <nabz> http://tor.eff.org/
[01:51] <Skuller> thnx
[01:51] <Mozz27> can anone help me with a removeable media problem??
[01:53] <aceta> you can install tor/privoxy easily through adept, but it's not sure you get an us ip
[01:54] <nabz> aceta: you got any other ideas about my xampp problem?
[01:55] <aceta> i'm looking around, but google didn't give me something helpful
[01:56] <nabz> ok thanks.
[01:56] <aceta> sorry for the stupid asking, but you ran both commands with sudo? ;p
[01:56] <nabz> yep
[01:56] <i810> hi I'm trying out the KDE4 alpha release; when install kde4base, I get: "trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/solidfakenetbackend/fakenetworking.xml', which is also in package kde4libs-data". It seems to be a conflict with only one file. What's the best way to solve this?
[01:56] <i810>
[02:01] <aceta> sorry nabz, i have no clue what's wrong..
[02:01] <nabz> :(
[02:01] <nabz> this is why somtimes i think windows is better :(
[02:04] <nabz> how can i remove the installed files?
[02:05] <aro> Anyone know why Amarok just crashes on startup? The window fades to black informing that the process is stalled. (Kubuntu 7.04 32-bit)
[02:05] <aceta> yeah, you've till got to fiddle around on linux sometimes, but some people (including me) like it ;)
[02:05] <aceta> mom
[02:06] <aceta> sudo rm -rf /opt/lampp
[02:06] <nabz> ty
[02:06] <nabz> have u managed to get beryl to work properly?
[02:06] <halina> witam
[02:08] <Mozz27> can anyone tell me how i can setup my removable drive to run under kubuntu 7.04
[02:12] <Mozz27> can anyone tell me how i can setup my removable drive to run under kubuntu 7.04
[02:13] <AFaith> Mozz27: whats the problem ?
[02:14] <aceta> nabz: yes, i'm running beryl as default wm
[02:14] <Mozz27> thanks for rplying afaith. when i plug in the drive i get the option to open in a new window, i click this but nothing happens
[02:15] <AFaith> try mounting the drive manually
[02:15] <AFaith> most often, if its an USB drive, it will be /dev/sdb1
[02:16] <AFaith> so, you can use this : mkdir /mnt/removable sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/removable
[02:16] <Mozz27> sorry im new to this, \how do i mount manually
[02:16] <AFaith> mkdir /mnt/removable && sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/removable
[02:16] <nabz> when i run beryl it either gives me WSOD or if i use --use-copy it goes blurry :S so i have to reboot
[02:16] <levi_> quick question
[02:16] <AFaith> use the last command
[02:16] <levi_> is there still a .deb package for ndiswrapper?
[02:16] <aceta> you've got nvidia or ati?
[02:16] <nabz> nvidia
[02:17] <AFaith> Mozz27: you can read the man of mount if it doesn't work
[02:17] <aceta> you edited your xorg.conf?
[02:17] <nabz> nope, not sure how to
[02:17] <Mozz27> thanks afaith
[02:17] <AFaith> your welcome :)
[02:17] <aceta> hang on
[02:17] <nabz> kk ty :)
[02:17] <AFaith> Mozz27: a few people remember to do what you've done
[02:18] <soulrider> hi everyone
[02:18] <Ireclan> How do I get the packages KOffice or KGet?
[02:18] <Mozz27> what have i done
[02:18] <soulrider> Ireclan: sudo aptitude install kget koffice
[02:19] <soulrider> i think koffice is not in a default repo though
[02:19] <acme64> so need help mounting a drive
[02:19] <soulrider> acme64: what do you need ?
[02:19] <aceta> nabz: you've got the "real" nvidia driver installed?
[02:19] <acme64> trying to mount my windows ntfs drive
[02:19] <acme64> so i stick in media/hda1
[02:19] <acme64> and i get" You do not have enough permissions to read file:///media/hda1"
[02:19] <soulrider> /media/hda1
[02:19] <Ireclan> soulrider: I don't see Kget in the repos either...
[02:19] <nabz> nope, not installed any drivers :( lool
[02:19] <soulrider> !info kget
[02:19] <ubotu> kget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 440 kB, installed size 1192 kB
[02:19] <soulrider> Ireclan:  all lowercase :)
[02:20] <soulrider> acme64: uhm, try the guyde
[02:20] <soulrider> guide*
[02:20] <acme64> the wha
[02:20] <soulrider> !ntfs | acme64
[02:20] <ubotu> acme64: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:20] <soulrider> check ntfs-3g out
[02:20] <soulrider> thats what i used to use
[02:20] <nabz> aceta: i havn't installed any drivers lol. :(
[02:20] <acme64> cool beans
[02:20] <soulrider> Ireclan: try installing the packages witht he command i gave you before, but package names are ALLWAYS lowercase
[02:21] <soulrider> nabz: first time in linux?
[02:21] <nabz> yep lol
[02:21] <AFaith> acme64: you need to allow other users to read the root owned directory
[02:21] <soulrider> nabz: installign the drivers is easy, but can be a bit scary for newbies
[02:21] <AFaith> 2 ways to do that
[02:21] <soulrider> !envy nabz
[02:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envy nabz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:21] <AFaith> 1. modify fstab
[02:21] <soulrider> !envy | nabz
[02:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:21] <soulrider> oh damn
[02:21] <nabz> lol
[02:21] <soulrider> !nvidia | nabz
[02:21] <ubotu> nabz: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:21] <aceta> you need to install linux-restricted-modules-generic and nvidia-glx-new through adept
[02:21] <nabz> ty
[02:21] <AFaith> 2. chmod 777 /media/hda1 -R
[02:22] <soulrider> nabz: have you read any guide or know how installing software works ?
[02:22] <soulrider> AFaith: i dont think that will work
[02:22] <aro> Does anyone know why I have to reinstall Nvidia proprietary drivers every time I boot? If I don't, I get no 3D acceleration and incorrect resolutions. (Geforce 7600GT, Kubuntu 7.04)
[02:22] <nabz> apt-get and adept, lol
[02:22] <soulrider> its an NTFS drive, not ext
[02:22] <AFaith> it worked for me :)
[02:22] <soulrider> aro: have you edited your xorg ?
[02:22] <soulrider> !xorg | aro
[02:22] <ubotu> aro: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:23] <aro> soulrider, yes, and my xorg.conf file is fine and remains the same before and after reinstallation of the drivers.
[02:23] <soulrider> aro: have you enabled them in xorg ?
[02:23] <aro> soulrider, also when I go to reinstall the drivers, I get a message saying "There appears to already be a driver installed on your system" but I continue anyway because I know it's not working
[02:23] <aro> soulrider, yes, I just said my xorg.conf remains the same before and after the installation
[02:23] <soulrider> aro: you downloaded them from the nvidia site right ?
[02:23] <aro> soulrider, yes
[02:24] <soulrider> ahh aro , you new to linux ?
[02:24] <AFaith> soulrider: when i was using ntfs-3g, i've made some terrible mistakes in configuring the fstab entries, so i had to use chmod to change permissions on the directory i was mounting the parition
[02:24] <aro> soulrider, no
[02:24] <nabz> aceta: i've installed thoes two, should i attempt running beryl?
[02:24] <soulrider> its a lot easier to install from the repos
[02:24] <soulrider> AFaith: i see
[02:24] <aceta> first we've got to edit the xorg.conf
[02:24] <nabz> ah ok,
[02:24] <aceta> run sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:24] <soulrider> nabz, aceta , envy does it all for you i think
[02:24] <AFaith> btw, i'm also having problems in trying to get beryl working for a fresh feisty install
[02:25] <acme64> soulrider: ok, ive mounted the drive, but it keeps saying i don't have access
[02:25] <acme64> theres a padlock on the icon
[02:25] <nabz> hmm
[02:25] <soulrider> aro: have you tried installing the driver from the repos? and changed the driver in xorg from nv to nvidia ?
[02:25] <acme64> and i dont think i can edit the fstab since im on a livecd
[02:25] <nabz> aceta: well the files open in kate now
[02:25] <soulrider> acme64: oh, i see
[02:25] <aro> soulrider, the only drivers that I can get to work properly are the ones from www.nvidia.com
[02:25] <aceta> right, i've read something about envy.. but i still like to do it manually ;)
[02:25] <acme64> would ntfs-3g still work?
[02:25] <soulrider> acme64: alt+f2  kdesu konqueror
[02:25] <aro> soulrider, they work perfectly  but I have to reinstall them at each boot
[02:25] <soulrider> aceta: me too :P
[02:25] <aceta> ok, go to section device
[02:26] <nabz> i guess it's better to learn how to do it manually :)
[02:26] <soulrider> aro: oh =/ thats odd
[02:26] <nabz> ok im at it now :)
[02:26] <aro> soulrider, indeed and I have no idea why
[02:26] <soulrider> nabz: its easy to do it manually, but sometimes it can scare some people :P
[02:26] <nabz> dentifier	"nVidia Corporation G70 [GeForce 7600
[02:26] <aceta> in line "driver" replace "nv" with "nvidia"
[02:26] <nabz> okies
[02:26] <soulrider> aro: i think you can hold a package, so it doesnt get upgraded/installed
[02:27] <nabz> done that
[02:27] <soulrider> aro: try aptitude hold, and read the output
[02:27] <AFaith> acme64: i belive you should try to install that distribution, because any changes you made will be erased when you will reboot your pc
[02:27] <aceta> and add those options in section device:
[02:27] <aceta> 	Option		"TripleBuffer"		"true"
[02:27] <aceta> 	Option		"AddARGBGLXVisuals"	"true"
[02:27] <AFaith> so ... you have to start over and over again
[02:27] <acme64> AFaith: , all i wanna do is get some files off the drive
[02:27] <acme64> its getting formatted
[02:27] <aro> soulrider, I'm not sure what that has to do with this issue
[02:27] <nabz> ok done,
[02:27] <AFaith> try what i've said earlier
[02:27] <acme64> i typed in the /mediahda1 path, and it works now...why's that?
[02:27] <nabz> Section "Device"
[02:27] <nabz> 	Identifier	"nVidia Corporation G70 [GeForce 7600 GS] "
[02:27] <nabz> 	Driver		"nvidia"
[02:27] <nabz> 	BusID		"PCI:3:0:0"
[02:27] <nabz> Option"TripleBuffer""true
[02:27] <nabz> Option"AddARGBGLXVisuals""true"
[02:27] <nabz> EndSection
[02:27] <soulrider> acme64: did you try alt+f2 konqueror? you shouldnt get any permission errors
[02:28] <acme64> yea that worked
[02:28] <soulrider> nabz aceta  please dont paste here!
[02:28] <nabz> sorry about that,
[02:28] <aceta> ok, but before saving make a backup to be sure ;)
[02:28] <acme64> why does that work tho and not when i go through the file menu
[02:28] <aceta> yeah sorry, thought 2 lines would be ok
[02:28] <soulrider> aceta: because youre running konqueror as root :P
[02:28] <aceta> no, just kate ;)
[02:29] <nabz> aceta: so no shall i attempt to run beryl?
[02:29] <truevox> God, I feel stupid asking this. Again (I'm going to write it down this time). What's the command to completely redo my xorg.conf file? For some reason I need to with this laptop.
[02:29] <soulrider> nabz: lol, seems youre ina  hurry
[02:29] <soulrider> nabz: beryl is betta but its pretty stable IMHO
[02:29] <nabz> lol, just excited to see beryl in action
[02:30] <jmichaelx> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:30] <soulrider> !xorg | truevox
[02:30] <ubotu> truevox: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:30] <aceta> i'm using beryl for over half an year now, without big problems..
[02:30] <truevox> I don't remember it being that long, but that seems to have the right ingrediants. Many thanks!!!
[02:30] <nabz> sweet
[02:30] <jmichaelx> yw
[02:30] <Ireclan> OK...Gotta problem here...
[02:30] <nabz> i seen some videos of it on youtube and it looks amazing
[02:30] <aceta> but before you try to run beryl, you've got to restart X
[02:30] <truevox> Oh yeah. That's the one. TYVM.
[02:30] <soulrider> nabz: its really flashy, lots of bling bling :P
[02:30] <nabz> lol
[02:30] <soulrider> windows users pee themselves :P
[02:31] <jmichaelx> very very welcome
[02:31] <aceta> ;)
[02:31] <nabz> oh yeh, is ther any quick way to restart the OS or do i have to restart the whole machine?
[02:31] <soulrider> jmichaelx: i can never remember that command :P
[02:31] <soulrider> nabz: ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:31] <aceta> just X, strg + alt + backspace
[02:31] <nabz> ty :)
[02:31] <soulrider> it just restarts the graphic part
[02:31] <aceta> oh ctrl :)
[02:31] <nabz> well brb then
[02:31] <jmichaelx> soulrider: i have just had to use it WAY too many times
[02:31] <soulrider> there he goes :)
[02:32] <soulrider> lol jmichaelx
[02:32] <Ireclan> Packages that show under Adept are not showing under Add/Remove Programs...why?
[02:32] <aceta> yeah, me 2.. knetworkmanager doesn't always work right after bootup...
[02:33] <soulrider> Ireclan: did you select 'all suites' ?
[02:33] <Ireclan> soulrider: Yes.
[02:33] <soulrider> and check unsipported? (not sure of that checkbox is still there)
[02:33] <Ireclan> soulrider: Yes again.
[02:33] <soulrider> Ireclan: adept is like the 'fuller' version of add/remove
[02:34] <Ireclan> soulrider: Yes, I know...Hence the puzzling nature of the problem...
[02:34] <soulrider> Ireclan: lol
[02:34] <soulrider> uhm, brb, i left enemy territory downloading a map and totally forgot :P
[02:34] <ragarth> Hello, I recently tried the suspend feature on my desktop running kubuntu feisty fawn, and now my computer doesn't fully shut down, it restarts fine, however.
[02:34] <Ireclan> So...
[02:35] <aceta> well, it's not totally shutdown in suspend afair, the ram still needs some power
[02:36] <acme64> whoa whoa
[02:36] <ragarth> aceta: Yeah, I know, that's why I wanted to try it, but now it's doing that every shutdown.
[02:36] <acme64> im trying to copy a fodler from the drive i just mounted
[02:36] <acme64> and its telling me it doesn't exist o.0
[02:36] <aceta> well that shouldn't be
[02:36] <acme64> lol
[02:37] <ragarth> aceta, I know! Unfortunately it apparently wants to be ornery, if only problems like this could be fixed with a kiss and a lollipop.
[02:37] <sulamita> how do I configure network profiles for kubuntu?
[02:37] <AFaith> question : where can i read the logs of beryl ?
[02:38] <jreinaldo> I lost my trash link from my desktop folder. How can I get it again?
[02:38] <aceta> :)
[02:38] <aceta> i'm sorry but i don't know whats wrong..
[02:38] <acme64> lol u can erase the trashcan in linux too?
[02:38] <acme64> crazy
[02:38] <AFaith> or what should i do to see whatever goes wrong with the pc i'm setting up now ... because beryl won't spin the cube until i see where is the problem.
[02:38] <aceta> well you probably just deleted the link?
[02:39] <ragarth> aceta: Bummer, I'd imagine suspend does something to init 0 (I think it's 0 that's for shutdown?) that is changed back when suspend comes back up, but I dunno what that might be.
[02:40] <aceta> well it shouldn't do that permanently
[02:40] <jreinaldo> Yes. Probably yes. I don't remember. The folder in .shar... is there
[02:40] <ragarth> Yeah, alas.
[02:41] <aceta> it works normally for me on my notebook..
[02:41] <bunchy> salut
[02:41] <ragarth> aceta: Any idea how I can get the answer? I've tried google and to be honest I'm not sure how to search for this subject.
[02:41] <bunchy> y a 1 francais?
[02:42] <bunchy> allo
[02:43] <bunchy> ok
[02:43] <bunchy> pas
[02:43] <bunchy> de
[02:43] <aceta> well, that's a good question..
[02:43] <bunchy> francais?
[02:43] <aceta> bunchy: channel #kubuntu-fr
[02:44] <bunchy> cool
[02:44] <nabz> rawr it messed up lol
[02:44] <nabz> thinking or re-installing kubuntu then maybe xamp will work
[02:44] <nabz> (using the live cd atm)
[02:44] <AFaith> hey, i've asked you something
[02:45] <AFaith> can you help me ?
[02:45] <aceta> i already thougth something went wrong after you were away so long
[02:45] <nabz> lol
[02:45] <aceta> but it worked this way on several machines for me and other people
[02:46] <nabz> hmm, ill try using envy after i reinstall
[02:46] <aceta> you don't have to reinstall
[02:46] <nabz> and hopfully xampp wil lstart working
[02:46] <nabz> yeh but it gives xamp a chance of working lol
[02:46] <aceta> hm, you can try it ;)
[02:47] <nabz> yeh, am doing now :)
[02:47] <nabz> i wanna get use to linux and use it as my main os
[02:47] <nabz> it seems pretty cool :)
[02:48] <aceta> that's what i thought seven months ago ;)
[02:48] <aceta> and now i'm using only linux..
[02:48] <aceta> i even ran games successfully on wine
[02:48] <aro> Anyone know why I still can't write to an NTFS partition even after successfully using ntfs-config to enable write support to internal device and remounting?
[02:48] <phoenixbyrd> when I run beryl, I lose my apps title bar with the minimize/close buttons
[02:48] <aceta> don't need windows at all any more - and it feels good ;)
[02:48] <nabz> games :o thats the downside of linux (in my eyes)
[02:49] <nabz> if games work (and photoshop) it will be perfect
[02:49] <aceta> yes it is
[02:49] <acme64> ok, so, what do i do about my file does not exist error?
[02:49] <aceta> many games work with wine, some even faster as on windows ;)
[02:49] <acme64> i can view everything fine
[02:49] <aceta> and i've also got used to gimp as alternative to photoshop
[02:50] <nabz> hmm,  i tried gimp once but it just didnt feel right lol
[02:50] <aceta> aro: ntfs-3g is installed?
[02:50] <aceta> well it's all a question of adaption
[02:50] <acme64> !ntfs-3g
[02:50] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:50] <nabz> yeh, i guess it is
[02:51] <aceta> if you're used to linux windows also feels strange ;)
[02:51] <nabz> lol
[02:51] <aro> aceta, yes
[02:51] <aro> aceta, my fstab line is UUID=7834FCD734FC98F8 /media/sda1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[02:51] <aceta> hm, the mounting point is missing?
[02:52] <compilerwriter> Accidently opened the cdrom door of an audiocd.  Now I have two icons for the thing on my desktop and I can't get either one to eject it.  How do I fix this?
[02:52] <aceta> try it manually in the konsole and test it: sudo umount /media/sda1
[02:53] <aceta> sudo ntfs-3g /media/sda1 /mounting/point -o locale=en_US.utf8
[02:53] <aceta> but then you can only use it as root, i think
[02:53] <aceta> but that's good enough to test it
[02:53] <edu> help me! there's a very strange situation...
[02:53] <compilerwriter> !ask | edu
[02:53] <ubotu> edu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:54] <ragarth> Would someone mind doing me a favor and run dir /etc/rc0.d and giving me the full filename of the file with the word halt in it?
[02:54] <edu> I connect to the internet and konqueror, kopete... acts as if i were not connected
[02:54] <edu> but with dillo web browser and with konversation it works...why?
[02:54] <edu> what's wrong? omg!
[02:54] <compilerwriter> S90halt
[02:55] <ragarth> Huh, so it didn't do that, I'm at a loss.
[02:55] <aro> Nevermind, got it working.
[02:55] <compilerwriter> So it didn't do what ragarth
[02:56] <ragarth> compilerwriter, I tried to use the suspend function on my desktop, it suspended but would not come back up. Now every time I try to shutdown my computer, it suspends instead.
[02:56] <ragarth> I checked to see if the service in init 0 that calls halt was disabled, and it wasn't.
[02:58] <compilerwriter> ragarth did the blasted shutdown button get accidently remapped to do a suspend?  I think one can do that in the system settings.
[02:58] <ragarth> I typed init 0 from command line and it did the same thing.
[02:58] <edu> My kde apps don't work with the internet but non-kde apps do, what can be wrong?
[02:59] <aceta> you've checked internet settings in kcontrol?
[03:01] <edu> yes, but i'm using kppp, since i have a 56 k connection
[03:02] <acme64> ok, im not sure how this works, how do i install ntfs-3g?
[03:02] <nabz> ok it's installed, back in a few
[03:03] <aceta> acme64: through adept ;)
[03:03] <kim> its 3 in the morning, i cant chat here... and im bored, where do i go?
[03:03] <acme64> is that a website a command a what?
[03:03] <aceta> or sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g should also work
[03:04] <aceta> adept is the package manager
[03:04] <acme64> E: couldn't find package ntfs-3g
[03:04] <sparr> I have a random PS/2 device (a gamepad) that /dev/input doesnt know about.  Where should I start on trying to get it working?
[03:05] <l_r> hello
[03:05] <aceta> hm, try with adept
[03:06] <nabz> where can i get envy from?
[03:06] <aceta> google for it
[03:06] <nabz> okies
[03:06] <l_r> uname -a reports a SMP flag. why did kubuntu install a kernel compiled for smp machines, although my machine has 1 cpu?
[03:06] <l_r> any good reason?
[03:06] <nimble> if you switch cpu in the future?
[03:07] <l_r> 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:07] <l_r> nimble, what do you mean?
[03:07] <crimsun> l_r: because it decreases the number of distinct binary packages we have to compile from linux-source-2.6.20.
[03:07] <nimble> if you get a multi-core cpu in the future you wont need a new kernel
[03:07] <crimsun> l_r: the more packages that we have to compile, the longer it takes to roll out a new release, and the longer it takes to roll security/update errata
[03:08] <acme64> aceta:  when i do the aptget thing, where does it look for the packages?
[03:08] <crimsun> l_r: not to mention each binary l-i takes up additional space
[03:08] <nabz> lol soz for bein such a noob :( i got the .deb file, now how do i use it lool
[03:08] <acme64> cuz i just donwloaded a tgz file of it
[03:08] <l_r> in my experience running smp kernels one a single cpu might have much more possibilities to fail. it's not safe and even slower in some cases
[03:08] <aceta> umm the normal ubuntu repositories
[03:09] <aceta> but it should install it itself
[03:09] <nimble> apt-get gets stuff from the repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:09] <crimsun> l_r: ...except that we use SMP alternatives, which disables the SMP code on boot for appropriate hardware.  Check your dmesg.
[03:09] <acme64> aceta: well, it didn't now what?
[03:09] <acme64> can i point it to the file i downloaded?
[03:09] <nabz> when i click the .deb file it opens ark :S
[03:09] <crimsun> l_r: case in point:
[03:09] <crimsun> [    7.158483]  SMP alternatives: switching to UP code
[03:09] <crimsun> [    7.158871]  Freeing SMP alternatives: 11k freed
[03:09] <aceta> probably you have to uncomment some of the repositories
[03:09] <aceta> in the /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:10] <l_r> crimsun, i see.. is it a patch from kubuntu?
[03:10] <acme64> can i even edit it, im on a livecd
[03:10] <aceta> a tgz file has to be compiled
[03:10] <crimsun> l_r: it's an upstream patch that we've applied since 6.06
[03:10] <acme64> oh lawd compiled?
[03:10] <aceta> should work
[03:10] <acme64> this is getting way too compicated :/
[03:10] <acme64> complicated
[03:10] <l_r> i didn't remember official kernels would turn smp support off if not needeed
[03:10] <Ghone[fark] > acme, it isn't as bad as you think
[03:10] <l_r> ok
[03:10] <crimsun> l_r: that's why I said it's an upstream patch that we've applied since 6.06
[03:11] <crimsun> l_r: it's not in upstream kernel.org but in upstream
[03:11] <acme64> i dont even have write access to the source file
[03:11] <l_r> i see
[03:11] <aceta> if you don't want to install linux but have access to ntfs partitions i would recommend knoppix
[03:11] <aceta> you have to be root to edit it
[03:11] <nabz> aceta: how would i go about using the envy .deb file?
[03:11] <acme64> oic
[03:11] <acme64> whats the command to open kate in root?
[03:11] <aceta> right-click and install ;)
[03:11] <acme64> su kate?
[03:11] <nimble> sudo
[03:12] <acme64> oh
[03:12] <aceta> or sudo dpkg -i xxx.deb
[03:12] <nabz> ah ty :)
[03:12] <aceta> sudo kate
[03:12] <aceta> you're welcome ;)
[03:13] <acme64> bah wtf
[03:13] <acme64> still doesn't work
[03:13] <AFaith> it's almost 4.30 in my country ...
[03:13] <AFaith> am
[03:13] <AFaith> i'm going to take a nap
[03:13] <AFaith> good night all
[03:13] <aceta> central europe? ;)
[03:13] <acme64> later
[03:13] <nabz> its 2.13 am here :(
[03:13] <AFaith> & good luck
[03:13] <aceta> good night AFaith
[03:13] <nabz> and nite
[03:13] <AFaith> aceta: YES. romania ;))
[03:13] <aceta> :)
[03:14] <aceta> not too far - i'm german ;)
[03:14] <nabz> and wow when installing envy loads of errors appeared :(
[03:14] <AFaith> too bad your not romanian ;))
[03:14] <aceta> hehe ;)
[03:14] <aceta> nabz: umm?
[03:14] <nabz> lol.deb
[03:14] <acme64> aceta: uncommenting the other repositories didn't help
[03:14] <nabz> woops
[03:14] <acme64> now what
[03:14] <aceta> the package manager should solve it usually
[03:15] <nabz> it says stuff like, depends on this file and its not installef
[03:15] <aceta> acme64: you uncommented them and saved the file?
[03:15] <nabz> installed
[03:15] <acme64> yes i did aceta
[03:16] <aceta> well the package manager should install them
[03:16] <acme64> add remove program thing?
[03:16] <aceta> but you could do it manually
[03:16] <nabz> yeh, doing it now :) ty again
[03:16] <aceta> acme64: sudo apt-get update
[03:16] <aceta> then try sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g again
[03:18] <aro> !autostart
[03:18] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[03:18] <acme64> aceta: WORKS
[03:18] <aceta> :)
[03:18] <acme64> i love u
[03:18] <nabz> lol
[03:19] <aceta> thanks ;)
[03:20] <acme64> no, srsly...have my babies
[03:21] <aro> How do I automount?
[03:22] <soulrider> aro: /etc/fstab
[03:22] <aro> Yes, but what do I have to add there
[03:22] <soulrider> aro: edit that file
[03:22] <aro> I have it mounted and I do it manually
[03:22] <nabz> :D i think nvidia drivers installed :D
[03:22] <aro> How can I have it automount though?
 <mountpoint> <options> and a couple other things
[03:22] <soulrider> man fstab
[03:22] <aro> k
[03:23] <nabz> how come my taskbar and stuff dissapeared when i started beryl?
[03:25] <nimble> weird never had the taskbar disappear
[03:25] <nabz> not taskbar
[03:25] <nabz> erhh whats it called
[03:25] <nimble> window decorations?
[03:25] <nabz> top bit of each program
[03:25] <nabz> where it has close minimize etc
[03:25] <nimble> emerald must not have been loaded
[03:25] <nimble> start beryl-manager
[03:25] <nimble> starts everything you need
[03:26] <nabz> lol its not installed
[03:26] <abegol> Can somebody tell me the easiest way to install Realplayer rpm package
[03:27] <abegol> the rpm package is on my desktop and I don't know how to enter the command to run it
[03:28] <nimble> well try starting emerald
[03:28] <abegol> nimble are you talking to me?
[03:29] <abegol> I don't have emerald
[03:29] <abegol> what is it?
[03:29] <nimble> no i was talking to nabz
[03:29] <nabz> rawrr beryl-manager takes it time to load
[03:29] <nabz> then nothing happend :S
[03:30] <nimble> get alien to install rpm files, it can convert them to deb
[03:30] <abegol> ok
[03:30] <abegol> I will try it
[03:30] <nabz> so how would i go about starting beryl properly?
[03:31] <nimble> sometimes it doesnt start first time, id just try and run it again
[03:31] <nimble> it should give you a beryl icon in the system tray
[03:31] <nabz> im trying the beryl manager
[03:31] <nabz> and its taking ages to load :/
[03:31] <nabz> and nothing happend again :/
[03:32] <Graham> Anybody here tried Windows Vista?
[03:32] <nimble> try running in a terminal
[03:32] <aceta> nabz: is the diamond in the systray?
[03:32] <nabz> nope
[03:32] <aceta> Graham: yes, got it installed on my new notebook
[03:32] <levi_> I haves a question for someone
[03:32] <nabz> rawr i typed 'beryl manager' in the konsol and the top bit's gone again :/
[03:33] <aceta> top bit's?
[03:33] <nimble> do you have emerald?
[03:33] <nabz> of the applications
[03:33] <nimble> should be installed automatically
[03:33] <nabz> and emerald? i think so
[03:33] <Graham> aceta: Do you like it?
[03:33] <nabz> 'Emereld theme manager;
[03:33] <nabz> i got that
[03:33] <aceta> yeah thats a common bug, you need to tweak the xorg.conf for that ;)
[03:33] <aceta> well it looks nice
[03:34] <aceta> but i haven't used it often
[03:34] <nabz> ah, how do i tweak the corg.conf? to fix it?
[03:34] <Graham> aceta: Word to the wise, don't :)
[03:34] <Graham> aceta: I've been a critic of it, so I decided to give it a shot...
[03:34] <aceta> me 2 ;)
[03:35] <nabz> aceta: how would i go about tweaking the xorg.conf to solve my problem?
[03:35] <aceta> you used it ample?
[03:35] <aceta> well
[03:35] <Graham> aceta: Seriously, everything I like about Vista, is already in XP, and every new feature and the new layout, I hate!
[03:35] <aceta> i don't want to destroy your X again ;)
[03:35] <Graham> They got rid of the easy desktop preferences and made some big manual thing.
[03:35] <nabz> lol, its worth a shot
[03:36] <nimble> i think you can add the settings by passing nvidia-settings some parameters
[03:36] <Graham> I'm cleansing my HD atm.
[03:36] <nabz> unless theres another way?
[03:36] <aceta> yeah youve got somehow less control over everything
[03:36] <aceta> not that i know
[03:37] <nabz> ah ok, i guess giving this a shot is the only way :| lol
[03:37] <aceta> hang on a sec, moving into bed.. ;)
[03:37] <nabz> lol, alrighty
[03:38] <levi_> Does anyone know if Ndiswrapper .deb packages are still around?
[03:38] <nimble> Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"
[03:38] <nimble> i think thats what you need to add to xorg.conf
[03:38] <nabz> ah, how do i edit the xconf again? sudo kate .....
[03:39] <nimble>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:39] <nabz> ty
[03:39] <aceta> yeah should be it
[03:40] <aceta> into device section
[03:40] <nabz> in the device bit?
[03:40] <nimble> should really use kdesu for graphical programs btw
[03:40] <nabz> ok ty
[03:41] <nabz> ok gna restart, lets hope it worked :)
[03:41] <nabz> brb
[03:42] <abegol> Can somebody tell me how install Realplayer
[03:43] <abegol> I have downloaded it and it is on my desktop as a rpm package
[03:43] <Rictoo> how would I change the horizontal and vertical freq of my monitor in xorg.conf? Where is the option?
[03:43] <nabz> rawr the stuff disapeared again :S
[03:44] <nabz> Anyone got any ideas? im running beryl through the konsole by typing 'beryl' is that correct?
[03:44] <nimble> its in the monitor section
[03:44] <nimble> beryl-manager
[03:44] <Rictoo> ...
[03:44] <Rictoo> it's not oO
[03:44] <aceta> ok folks, since it's really late here, i'm going to sleep now
[03:44] <aceta> have a nice evening/night, whatever ;)
[03:45] <nimble> i have some lines like this    HorizSync       28.0 - 51.0                VertRefresh     43.0 - 60.0
[03:45] <abegol> hey nimble I installed alien
[03:45] <compilerwriter> Gentlemen and Ladies I somehow have two audiocd icons on my desktop for one audio cd in my machine.  Neither one will let me eject the blasted disc.  What do I do?
[03:45] <nabz> yay ty :D :D beryl-manager worked :D
[03:45] <abegol> but I don't see it anywhere in my computer
[03:45] <nabz> this is sweet
[03:45] <BluesKaj> abegol, you downloaded the wrong pkg ...rpm files are for other linux distros not kubuntu
[03:45] <levi_> manually unmount the disc drive
[03:45] <abegol> what is the next step to install Realplayer?
[03:45] <levi_> I think..
[03:46] <BluesKaj> see if you can find a .bin file or .deb files
[03:46] <compilerwriter> was that to me levi_
[03:46] <levi_> its umount /dev/cdrom0
[03:46] <nabz> one more thing, lol. how can i set beryl to be my default manager?
[03:46] <levi_> yes
[03:46] <abegol> ok, what package am I supposed to download?
[03:46] <nimble> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX that gives a few ways to make it autostart
[03:46] <BluesKaj> abegol, a .bin file or .deb files
[03:46] <nabz> ty
[03:46] <Dekkard> !realplay
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about realplay - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <abegol> ok
[03:47] <abegol> I will try that
[03:47] <BluesKaj> or tar.gz  or tar.bz2
[03:47] <levi_> if not that, its umount media/cdrom0
[03:47] <Dekkard> abegol:  try finding a realplayer package in synaptic or adept package manager
[03:47] <nimble> alien file.rpm    should convert it to a .deb file
[03:47] <levi_> compilerwriter, do you know about ndiswraper?
[03:47] <levi_> *p
[03:48] <compilerwriter> Not really levi.  Why do you ask?
[03:48] <jaevel> anyone available to help me with my system?
[03:48] <levi_> frick
[03:49] <Pupeno> Anyone tried home-encrypted on Kubuntu using Luks, like what it is described on http://pupeno.com/2006/12/17/encrypted-home-in-ubuntu-or-kubuntu-or-debian/ with Kubuntu 7.04?
[03:49] <levi_> I need help compiling it or just finding a deb package
[03:49] <BluesKaj> jaevel, just ask yer question
[03:49] <levi_> Im trying to install a Linksys USB wifi stick w/ speedbosted
[03:49] <levi_> *r
[03:49] <jaevel> im getting an error "su returned with an error"
[03:50] <compilerwriter> You should be able to get the blasted thing from the repos levi_
[03:50] <compilerwriter> levi_ I can't seem to umount any of those things.
[03:50] <levi_> it must be unmount then
[03:51] <Dekkard> hmm
[03:51] <levi_> try unmount /media/cdrom0 or /dev/cdrom0
[03:51] <Dekkard> that sounds wierd
[03:51] <BluesKaj> jaevel, what are you trying to install ?
[03:51] <levi_> Sorry..
[03:51] <levi_> my memory isnt perfect and I recall trying ONE of those and it working
[03:51] <levi_> xD
[03:52] <Dekkard> no.. thats not what i mean levi_  .sorry
[03:52] <levi_> eh? Oh sorry not you Dakkard
[03:52] <levi_> Misread
[03:52] <levi_> Dekkard
[03:52] <jaevel> BluesKaj: im just trying to get into "User Management"
[03:53] <naegling23> hey, im using konqueror to try and rip some cd's, but how do I adjust the quality of the encoding?
[03:53] <jaevel> BluesKaj: i click on Administrator mode and type my password and it give that error
[03:53] <levi_> compilerwriter,any luck yet?
[03:53] <BluesKaj> jaevel are you in gnome ?
[03:53] <nimble> konquerors a browser?
[03:53] <nabz> to make beryl startup wiht kde i tryed ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager ~/.kde/Autostart/beryl-manager but it did not work :S any idea?
[03:53] <levi_> Yes
[03:53] <levi_> both web and file
[03:53] <compilerwriter> No joy levi_
[03:53] <levi_> and so you know Firefox is too
[03:53] <jaevel> BluesKaj: KDE
[03:54] <levi_> Huh...
[03:54] <levi_> try it wih sudo
[03:54] <levi_> Ill play with it myself
[03:54] <BluesKaj> jaevel, did you type in a password when you installed kubuntu
[03:54] <compilerwriter> Already tried it with sudo levi_
[03:54] <naegling23> nabz, just create a shortcut to launch it in the autostart folder
[03:55] <compilerwriter> BluesKaj do you have any ideas for me on my little annoyance?
[03:55] <levi_> compilerwriter, okay its umount
[03:55] <levi_> but
[03:55] <nabz> lol new to linux :D wanna gimmie a hand? lol
[03:55] <abegol> I have RealPlayer.bin file on my desktop. Can somebody tell me how to install it?
[03:55] <zeekstarr> how do I burn an mpeg on a dvd so I can watch it on my dvd player?
[03:55] <zeekstarr> using k3b
[03:55] <levi_> go to your root folder
[03:55] <levi_> compilerwriter,
[03:55] <compilerwriter> !ask | nabz
[03:55] <ubotu> nabz: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:55] <jaevel> BluesKaj: i have the the default install, so i have my user name and password, nothing for root....
[03:56] <compilerwriter> done levi_
[03:56] <levi_> hang on i have to do this myself to explain it... ^^;;
[03:56] <nabz> wheres the startup folder?
[03:56] <levi_> on the righ  hand side where theres a tree list of your folders anfd such
[03:56] <levi_> your CD drive SHOULD be there
[03:57] <nimble> autostart is the startup folder, id try one of the session methods
[03:57] <naegling23> ~/.kde/Autostart
[03:57] <levi_> use that in umouint
[03:57] <hitmanWilly> nabz: <your home>/.kde/Autostart/
[03:57] <compilerwriter> I understand levi_ I had to tie and untie my own shoes three times when my niece asked me to help her to explain it.  Some things one does with mere muscle memory without any clue as to how they accomplish the task.
[03:57] <zeekstarr> video dvds, anyone? can I do it with k3b?
[03:57] <levi_> Wow typos galore
[03:58] <compilerwriter> levi_ typos galore?
[03:58] <nimble> doing  export KDEWM="/usr/bin/beryl-manager" is the only way i ever managed to get beryl to start properly on start up
[03:58] <levi_> yeah
[03:58] <naegling23> whats the best program to rip cd's to mp3?
[03:58] <BluesKaj> sorry jaevel , i don't know what to tell you  :>(
[03:58] <nabz> nimble do i type that in the konsole?
[03:58] <nimble> no it says on that page about how to do it
[03:58] <nabz> ok 2 secs
[03:59] <jaevel> BluesKaj: is there somewhere else i can go?
[03:59] <zeekstarr> is it possible to burn an mpeg on a dvd so I can watch it on my dvd player?
[03:59] <abegol> Can somebody tell me how to install Realplayer.
[03:59] <nabz> by creating  kdesu kwrite /usr/bin/startberyl.sh ? nimble
[03:59] <BluesKaj> compilerwriter, that's a new one on me too
[03:59] <levi_> yuo must be kidding
[03:59] <abegol> I have downloaded the .bin pkg and it is on my desktop
[03:59] <levi_> thats the first time ive seen that.. I cant PM unles registered
[04:00] <BZWingZero> Anyone have a second, I tried setting my system to use the proprietary ATi drivers and now X will not start. I have a root prompt. Can you help me revert it?
[04:00] <naegling23> doesnt automatix do realplayer?
[04:00] <BluesKaj> jaevel , perhaps a restart ctrl-alt-backspace and try again
[04:00] <nimble> nabz: yeah, you also need to create the session file so it shows up in kdm
[04:00] <levi_> compilerwriter, [22:03]  <levi_> Okay so the cmd is whatever the cdrom name appears in root sudo umount /media/devicehere
[04:00] <nabz> 'sudo kdesu kwrite /usr/bin/startberyl.sh' gives me this error: 'Kwrite: cannot connect to X server'
[04:00] <levi_> *in the root folder*
[04:00] <abegol> what is automatrix?
[04:00] <compilerwriter> levi_ you have managed to confuse me.
[04:01] <compilerwriter> I have done a cd / in a Konsole
[04:01] <hitmanWilly> !automatix | abegol
[04:01] <ubotu> abegol: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:01] <compilerwriter> levi_ should I have done it in Konq?
[04:01] <nabz> 'sudo kdesu kwrite /usr/bin/startberyl.sh' gives me this error: 'Kwrite: cannot connect to X server' nimble
[04:01] <nimble> what about kate?
[04:01] <levi_> No
[04:01] <nekyinboots> hello
[04:01] <nabz> ok ill try kate
[04:01] <levi_> compilerwriter, in terminal, Konsole w/e you have
[04:02] <nabz> doesnot work, do i need the 'kdesu' part?
[04:02] <nimble> yeah, that or sudo
[04:02] <nabz> ah ok working now
[04:03] <BZWingZero> Anyone have a second, I tried setting my system to use the proprietary ATi drivers and now X will not start. I have a root prompt. Can you help me revert it to the default? I'm currently running Kubuntu 7.04.
[04:03] <levi_> compilerwriter, any luck now?
[04:03] <levi_> and does anyone know anything about Ndiswrapper?
[04:03] <BZWingZero> A little.
[04:03] <nekyinboots> I need help with aMSN, it keeps asking for a module called TLS, I am new to Linux, but not to PC's, how do I install TLS, apperently it is a security protocal
[04:03] <compilerwriter> levi_ none of the things are mounted.  yet I have two icons on my desktop.
[04:04] <levi_> if they arent mounted you should be able to eject them
[04:04] <levi_> thouh
[04:04] <BluesKaj> BZWingZero,  'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[04:04] <levi_> it might be like my wireless
[04:04] <nabz> ok how would i select the session when i log in? nimble
[04:04] <levi_> once i disconnect i cant reconnect without a reboot
[04:04] <levi_> try rebooting
[04:04] <compilerwriter> levi_ I just did a refresh desktop and now I have two folders in place of the two cd icons.
[04:05] <nabz> brb
[04:06] <nekyinboots> Anyone know how to install TLS??
[04:07] <nabz> back,
[04:07] <crimsun> nekyinboots: the library support it is installed by default in Ubuntu.  What are you really asking?
[04:07] <crimsun> supporting it, even.
[04:07] <nabz> i selected the beryl session upon login, and it dont seem like beryl has started :S
[04:07] <ads_> hi what can i type in bash shell to shutdown x server  -- need to install nvidia drivers
[04:07] <ads_> pls
[04:07] <crimsun> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:08] <crimsun> or sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[04:08] <crimsun> (the latter if you're using a default Kubuntu)
[04:08] <ads_> thanQ
[04:08] <nekyinboots> Then how do I point aMSN at the module, I found a folder in root called TLS, I entered that path in aMSN but it did not help
[04:08] <manuel_> Hi!!!
[04:08] <nabz> i selected the beryl session upon login, and it dont seem like beryl has started :S
[04:08] <crimsun> nekyinboots: are you trying to compile aMSN?
[04:09] <manuel_> Anybody who can help me installing flash player on Konqueror.... Kubuntu 64 bit.
[04:09] <nabz> yo nimble, i selected the session on login but it dont seem like beryl has started :/
[04:09] <nekyinboots> No I have it installed, GUI loads fine, it is calling for a module called TLS
[04:10] <nimble> hmm, do you have the beryl system tray icon
[04:10] <nabz> nope
[04:10] <nimble> is beryl-manager actually running?
[04:10] <nabz> like the menu which appears when u press the tray icon appeared, but that was about it
[04:11] <nimble> flash on 64bit konqueror is something i never managed to do, better off using 32bit konqueror imo
[04:11] <BluesKaj> manuel_, go to you tube using konqueror and it should doan auto install when you click the message telling you need flash
[04:11] <nabz> ah sec brb
[04:12] <compilerwriter> Crimsun I am perplexed and baffled I somehow ended up with two audiocd icons on my desktop.  Went and tried to umount /media/cdrom* and then was able to eject the disk.  Did a refresh on my desktop and now have one folder labeled Audio CD on it.
[04:12] <compilerwriter> How do I get rid of the blasted folder?
[04:13] <crimsun> probably restart kdm
[04:13] <crimsun> there's some odd caching issue that I've not bothered to track down
[04:13] <nekyinboots> crimsun, any ideas?
[04:14] <nabz> yay it worked :D but now when it starts up the icon does not appear in the tray and the little beryl manager icon menu apears :S
[04:14] <crimsun> nekyinboots: I need a screenshot or something
[04:14] <BZWingZero> BluesKaj, did that and it still isn't working. Giving me a fatal error when X tries to start
[04:14] <nekyinboots> Ok how do I send you a screenshot?
[04:15] <BluesKaj> ok BZWingZero , type startkde , then after it gets back to the prompt , type startx
[04:16] <compilerwriter> Crimsun did a kill -HUP on kdm and tht did not get rid of things.
[04:16] <nekyinboots> I am going to try a few things
[04:16] <crimsun> compilerwriter: no, a complete restart of kdm.
[04:16] <compilerwriter> crimsun help me here then I am having a brain fart.
[04:16] <BZWingZero> BluesKaj, didn't work, Still getting the same error when I type startx, comes back with "Fatal server error: no screens found"
[04:17] <compilerwriter> Crimsun is it something to do with init.d?
[04:17] <crimsun> compilerwriter: drop to a console, login, then execute sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[04:18] <dsmith_> Vista = Useless   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20575/
[04:18] <nimble> i think the menu might be appearing because beryl-manager doesnt get shut down properly
[04:18] <dsmith_> Q: anyone been able to get SD cards working in ubuntu?
[04:18] <nimble> check if multiple beryl-managers are running
[04:18] <Rictoo> err
[04:19] <Rictoo> what is the 'whiptail' process?
[04:19] <manuel_> Thanks BluesKaj....
[04:20] <BluesKaj> BZWingZero, do the xserver reconfig again, but this time choose the vesa driver so you can get back into kubuntu to reset  your drivers
[04:20] <BZWingZero> BluesKaj, ok, will try that.
[04:21] <nimble> btw nabz, if you have nvidia, with aiglx and beryls default settings youll get a black window bug if you open too many windows
[04:21] <lters> any tips on getting suspend to work with x40 thinkpad?
[04:21] <lters> new clean install
[04:21] <nabz> my beryl decorater stuff has gone :( any ideas?
[04:21] <nimble> just disappeared?
[04:22] <nabz> yep
[04:22] <nabz> :S
[04:22] <hitmanWilly> nabz: try sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals
[04:22] <nabz> kk
[04:22] <nimble> try running beryl-manager again
[04:22] <BZWingZero> BlueKaj, I've got x back with those drivers. I'll set it to use the right ones from kde. I know my way around there. Still a little afraid of the command line.
[04:22] <hitmanWilly> nabz: then restart x
[04:22] <nabz> kk ty
[04:22] <nabz> brb
[04:23] <nabz> its still missing :/
[04:23] <nabz> should i reinstall beryl-manager?
[04:24] <nabz> it happend after changing some settings on it
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> nabz: try dpkg-reconfigure emerald
[04:24] <nabz> k
[04:24] <nimble> try selecting reload window decorator in beryl-manager
[04:24] <nabz> i have done that
[04:25] <nabz> kk should i restart hitmanwilly?
[04:25] <nimble> window manager as well?
[04:25] <nabz> yep
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> nabz: restart window manager
[04:25] <compilerwriter> Crimsun that seemed to do the trick.
[04:25] <nabz> hmm its still the same :S
[04:25] <nimble> hmm, what exactly did you change?
[04:25] <compilerwriter> Thanks.
[04:25] <BZWingZero> BlueKaj, Thanks a bunch for your help.
[04:25] <nabz> cant remeber lol, enabled quite a few things :/
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> nabz: dpkg-reconfigure beryl
[04:26] <nabz> tryed that just now
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> nabz: beryl manager?
[04:26] <BluesKaj> BZWingZero, try not to ask too high refresh rate from your monitor , sometimes that can cause X to go out of range
[04:26] <nabz> yeh done that aswell
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> err, beryl-manager
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> reload window decorator?
[04:26] <nabz> reloaded it already
[04:27] <BluesKaj> NP,  BZWingZero
[04:27] <BZWingZero> BlueKaj, I was rereading supported cards for the driver... mine wasn't on the list. I think that is what caused it.
[04:27] <nabz> hmm should i reinstall berl
[04:27] <nabz> beryl
[04:27] <octoberdan> My shift key keeps sticking KDE and occasionally I lose controll of my cntrl and alt keys
[04:27] <BluesKaj> BZWingZero, is your monitor listed as well ?
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> nabz: the dpkg-reconfigure did more or less the same as reinstalling
[04:27] <octoberdan> This is only happening in KDE
[04:27] <nabz> oh :|
[04:28] <octoberdan> Anyone else have the same problem?
[04:28] <nimble> try just deleting the .beryl folder in your home directory
[04:28] <nabz> ill try a restart, brb
[04:29] <nabz> :( still the same
[04:29] <nimble> did you delete your .beryl folder?
[04:29] <nabz> nope
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> nabz: yeah, try that
[04:29] <nabz> ok
[04:29] <nabz> thats in the root dir?
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> nabz: no, your home
[04:30] <nimble> in your home directory
[04:30] <nabz> dont have .beryl in home :S
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> ie ~/.beryl
[04:30] <nimble> youll need to show hidden files
[04:30] <nabz> oo i see
[04:30] <nimble> files and folders that start with a dot are hidden
[04:30] <nabz> shall i go ahead and delete the contents?
[04:30] <max> !gtkguitune
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtkguitune - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <nimble> yeah or the folder
[04:31] <nabz> okies
[04:31] <nabz> reconfigure command now i guess
[04:31] <nabz> yay it worked :D ty
[04:32] <hitmanWilly> nabz: usually apss store info in ~/.<whatever>, if you wipe the folder it usually sets it back to default
[04:32] <nabz> sweet, thanks for tha t:)
[04:33] <stealthy|lap|kub> how would I get something to autostart when I log in on kubuntu?
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> stealthy|lap|kub: link it in ~/,kde/Autostart
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> err, .kde
[04:34] <stealthy|lap|kub> softlink?
[04:34] <stealthy|lap|kub> erm what do you mean
[04:34] <lgkjg> whats the irc command to release a stuck nick?
[04:34] <max> what is the name of Adpet Manager? the name that i would have to type in for it to open in a term
[04:35] <nimble> adept_manager
[04:35] <BluesKaj> lgkjg,  /nick newnick
[04:35] <max> nimble: thanks
[04:35] <hitmanWilly> stealthy|lap|kub: make a symlink to the app in <yourhome>/.kde/Autostart, or put an executable shell script with a list of cmds you want to run on startup
[04:36] <lgkjg> BluesKaj: it says its in use when i do that
[04:36] <khaije1> BluesKaj: oops!
[04:36] <octoberdan> Hmm... my keyboard only works when using certain programs now
[04:36] <octoberdan> Konversation is all set, but not gaim or firefox
[04:36] <nimble> desktop files should work in the autostart folder as well
[04:36] <Dekkard> wish i could find dekorator
[04:37] <octoberdan> Dekkard: You lost it!? Oh no!
[04:37] <Dekkard> i did have it
[04:37] <Dekkard> i still have the themes
[04:37] <stealthy|lap|kub> ok, symlink, that's what I ha dmeant by softlink
[04:37] <Dekkard> but not tab in window deko panel
[04:38] <hitmanWilly> stealthy|lap|kub: anything in that dir gets run on kde startup
[04:38] <Dekkard> oh well
[04:38] <benji_> !mp3
[04:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:39] <stealthy|lap|kub> hitmanWilly: Thanks.
[04:39] <stealthy|lap|kub> will I have to make the ~/kde/Autostart?
[04:40] <nimble> .kde
[04:40] <stealthy|lap|kub> I have no !/kde
[04:40] <stealthy|lap|kub> ah k
[04:40] <hitmanWilly> np
[04:40] <nimble> its a hidden folder
[04:48] <nabz> hey, when i try and run xampp (lampp) it gives me a error: 'XAMPP: Error 127! Couldn't start Apache'
[04:48] <nabz> then 'XAMPP: Sorry, I've no idea what's going wrong.' any ideas?
[04:52] <max> !dvd
[04:52] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:53] <nimble> where did you install xampp from?
[04:56] <nabz> i changed my resultion from my nvidia settings but once i restart the OS it goes back to normal. anyway of making my changes permenent?
[04:57] <semistud2354> this is where i can come for questions if i have problems with kubuntu
[04:57] <semistud2354> first time...
[04:58] <nimble> did you get nvidia-settings to write xorg.conf
[04:58] <nabz> nope, how do i do that?
[04:58] <dkkong> Can someone help me change my icons to double click instead of single click
[04:59] <nabz> ah dw i got it
[04:59] <nabz> wow i feel stupid ol
[04:59] <nabz> brrrb tim to test
[04:59] <nimble> dkkong: go the system settings
[05:00] <dkkong> I'm there
[05:00] <nimble> then keyboard & mouse
[05:00] <dkkong> Okay
[05:00] <nimble> then mouse, then under icons you can change it to double click
[05:00] <semistud2354> if you want to change your double click thingy...you can go click the K then go to system settings "keybord and mouse" click the mouse
[05:00] <semistud2354> then icons...and double
[05:00] <semistud2354> lol
[05:01] <nabz> tried that, still dont work :(
[05:01] <semistud2354> anyone know whats better....kaffine...or mplayer
[05:01] <semistud2354> ...or is there anything better
[05:01] <dkkong> I don't see Icons. I see general cusour theme advanced and mouse navigation
[05:02] <nimble> whats resolutions do you have section screen in your xorg.conf
[05:02] <dkkong> 1078*764
[05:02] <nimble> icons a subsection in general
[05:02] <BluesKaj> semistud2354, it's a tossup , but I prefer kaffeine...easier to use
[05:02] <semistud2354> does kaffene have a plugin for firefox
[05:02] <semistud2354> ?
[05:02] <nimble> i use vlc, no need to screw around with annoying codecs
[05:02] <BluesKaj> yup
[05:04] <semistud2354> does vlc have a firefox plugin??
[05:04] <BluesKaj> yup
[05:04] <dkkong> I can't get to xorg
[05:05] <dkkong> Nevermind, I"m in and have no icons subsection
[05:05] <nimble> you dont need to go into xorg.conf, i was talking to someone else
[05:05] <nabz> whats the path to the   xorg file?
[05:05] <semistud2354> does vlc have a firefox plugin??
[05:05] <nimble> icons in a section in general under mouse
[05:05] <crimsun> semistud2354: yes.
[05:05] <nimble>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:06] <nabz> ty
[05:06] <nabz> bb
[05:06] <nabz> brb
[05:06] <dkkong> Under mouse, I don't see icons
[05:07] <dkkong> holy split
[05:07] <nimble> there should be "Button Order", then a checkbox with "Reverse scroll direction", then a section with "Icons"
[05:09] <intelikey> hut.   Riddell  is +o  what's up...
[05:10] <mefisto__> I have beryl starting with kde (from the Autostart dir) but it almost always scews up the icons in the panel tray. One of them (usually adept notifier) shows up as a small window at the top left of the desktop. If I switch back to kwin, then back to beryl, the icon goes back to the tray. Does anyone else have this problem? Is there a better way to get beryl starting automatically?
[05:10] <nimble> i get that error
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> mefisto__: its a bug in beryl as far as i can tell
[05:10] <nimble> never found a fix though
[05:11] <hitmanWilly> mefisto__: i even posted it on launchpad
[05:11] <BluesKaj> window dressing with holes :)
[05:12] <Mantice> Could some one help me my kubuntu does some strange stuff shuting down.
[05:12] <mefisto__> other than that, beryl seems pretty stable. even more stable than kwin as window manager
[05:13] <mefisto__> hitmanWilly: how is it on xfce?
[05:13] <Mantice> When I shutdown I get like all these pritty colours... and it looks like the res changes every 5 seconds.
[05:13] <hitmanWilly> mefisto__: about the same as kde, just a bit faster since xfce is pretty light on the system resources
[05:13] <Mantice> wtf guys ?
[05:13] <Mantice> net split  ?
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> wow, 2 in a row...
[05:14] <BluesKaj> Mantice, welcome to kubuntu shuttdownbugclub...yer in good company :)
[05:14] <Mantice> :)
[05:14] <Mantice> lol
[05:14] <Mantice> Its spreading ! !
[05:15] <Mantice> ooops my bad.
[05:15] <nabz> just messed with my xorg now i dont the decorators on beryl :/ got any ideas?
[05:15] <intelikey> high altitude recon shows that the servers are back togather now.
[05:15] <nimble> what did you change?
[05:15] <mefisto__> Mantice: so apart from the weirdness, is there any problem?
[05:15] <BluesKaj> Mantice, I just use the linux 3 finder salute then shut down from the login scrn
[05:16] <BluesKaj> 3 finger salute
[05:16] <nabz> well i got the resolution one from the nvidia thing so i guess all of it went back to normal so i dont have that thing i added into the device bit
[05:16] <Mantice> Well I dont like user power button :(
[05:16] <semistud2354> does anyone know any good nintendo 64 emulators for linux
[05:16] <BluesKaj> ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> nabz: what thing?
[05:16] <Mantice> It takes ages.
[05:16] <nimble> add it back i guess
[05:16] <nabz> nvidia settings
[05:16] <semistud2354> i tryed mupen...but i wanna see if theres something better
[05:16] <nabz> i copyed the xorg.conf over n saved it as my xorg
[05:17] <nabz> now my beryl decorates dont work :S
[05:17] <Mantice> mefisto_: I dont think my kubuntu shuts down
[05:17] <nimble> Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
[05:17] <nimble> thats what you need to add back
[05:17] <nabz> ty
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> nabz: try sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals
[05:17] <noiesmo> nabz, have you got this at the end ur xorg > Section "Extensions"    Option         "Composite" "Enable"   EndSection
[05:17] <benji_> !.bin
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <nabz> brb
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> nabz: that should actually work this time :)
[05:18] <BluesKaj> Mantice, try ctrl-alt-backspace then choose shutdown in the login scrn menu ...that's what i meant
[05:18] <Mantice> ah k
[05:18] <Mantice> so theres no fix ?
[05:18] <mefisto__> Mantice: doesn't shut down at all? I know linux is supposed to be robust, but that's TOO robust
[05:18] <Mantice> :D
[05:18] <semistud2354> whats the command to set select the primary java
[05:19] <Mantice> ok brb
[05:19] <BluesKaj> oh i think there is alright but I can't recall it
[05:19] <nabz> soz can you give me that option line again
[05:19] <nabz> nimble?
[05:20] <nabz> dw got it from logfile :)
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> nabz: just run sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals, that will add it in
[05:20] <nimble> yeah thats easier
[05:20] <fnu> how do you know your email is encrypted or not?
[05:22] <BluesKaj> fnu, there should be a lock logo down in the right hand corner of the page
[05:23] <fnu> ok ,TY
[05:24] <BluesKaj> fnu, that's not necessarily totally secure tho
[05:24] <intelikey> "totally secure" is an illusion
[05:25] <calabron> im haveing trouble makeing my network card work...i have a bcm4318 broadcom...
[05:25] <calabron> and using fiesty
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> the only totally secure computer is turned off and unplugged :)
[05:25] <BluesKaj> yeah  intelikey , i was covering my a** on that one :)
[05:26] <calabron> anyone know how to get it to work??
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> calabron: look into ndiswrapper
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> !ndiswrapper > calabron
[05:28] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper | calabron
[05:28] <ubotu> calabron: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:28] <calabron> checked there...how do i look at my card
[05:28] <Coldwar55> Hmm
[05:29] <fnu> BlueKaj, found both locks locked,Thanls again.
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> calabron: what do you mean by look at your card?
[05:29] <Coldwar55> When playing Flash games or viewing movies online does anyone else get slight jerkiness?
[05:30] <BluesKaj> fnu ..good
[05:30] <calabron> like my light wont turn on
[05:30] <fnu> heh heh
[05:30] <calabron> no networks detected
[05:30] <calabron> i tryed nidiswrapper
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> Coldwar55: that's just lag
[05:30] <calabron> well...reaserched it
[05:30] <Coldwar55> Well
[05:30] <Coldwar55> It doesn't occur when I'm in Windows
[05:30] <calabron> and they said that it doesnt work with fiesty
[05:30] <calabron> and broadcom
[05:30] <Coldwar55> it happens when I view any movie or flash game
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> calabron: you may be fscked then, unfortunately
[05:31] <intelikey> renice
[05:31] <fnu> just installed kubuntu6.06 with all its updates while ago.
[05:31] <calabron> is there anything else
[05:31] <calabron> like ndiswrapper
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> Coldwar55: you may try disabling ipv6
[05:31] <intelikey> renice
[05:32] <calabron> or maby some linux drivers for it
[05:32] <Coldwar55> Hmm
[05:32] <Coldwar55> Is it enabled by default upon installation of Fiesty?
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> Coldwar55: that tends to speed up internet for most people
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> Coldwar55: yes
[05:32] <Coldwar55> Command to disable?
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> !ipv6 | Coldwar55
[05:32] <ubotu> Coldwar55: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[05:32] <Coldwar55> THanks
[05:32] <calabron> i cant even get my light to turn on
[05:33] <calabron> on my laptop...
[05:33] <calabron> i tryed serching in adept
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> calabron: linux may not even be seeing it
[05:33] <calabron> yea...
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> broadcom cards are tweaky under linux
[05:33] <calabron> i read somewhere that broadcom specificly doesnt want to reliese drivers for broadcom
[05:34] <calabron> i mean linux
[05:34] <calabron> lol
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> wouldn't surprise me
[05:34] <calabron> pisses me off
[05:35] <mantice> Yay my kubuntu shuts down now :D
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> a lot of people don't realize that that's the hardware manufacturers fault, not linux's
[05:35] <calabron> yea..
[05:35] <calabron> so...theres nothing i can do??\
[05:36] <mantice> this kde wallet thing is such a pain, its like that stupid mac one.
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> calabron: ndiswrapper is the only thing ive heard of working with those cards...
[05:37] <intelikey> yeah any "security" is a pain.  i think we should all just run as root and open all ports.  then security wouldn't be an issue
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> open source useres!!
[05:38] <hitmanWilly> :)
[05:38] <calabron> broadcom sux!!!!
[05:39] <se7en> what package would i need to install to change from ubuntu 2 kubuntu
[05:40] <mantice> intelikey, I dident mean it like that its just when I want my IM to rember a password kde wallet comes up and makes me type in a password :(
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> se7en: quick answer, kubuntu-desktop
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> se7en: longer answer, its better to build it from the individual components
[05:42] <intelikey> se7en i would sujest you install "kde"  and then if you want anything else add it
[05:42] <hitmanWilly> se7en: ie start with kde-base and go from there
[05:42] <intelikey> kde-base ?    kde is a meta package for all of kde
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> or do that too\
[05:46] <se7en> thanks guys so kde-base is the base package and than i can add the programes i need right
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> se7en: go with just kde, then add on apps as you need
[05:47] <intelikey> yes.  but i would still sujest "kde" because you get the full "kde affect"
[05:47] <se7en> thanks
[05:48] <Skrot-> Hi, when I try "Xephyr :1; export DISPLAY=:1; xterm" I get the error "xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :1" after I close the session, and xterm won't start.. any ideas?
[05:49] <dsmith_> :)
[05:50] <semistud2354> OK this is kinda annoying....i downloaded vlc...does anyone know how to get it to work in firefox...
[05:50] <semistud2354> im trying to watch a video
[05:50] <semistud2354> but its just a black screen
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: theres a seperate plugin pkg you need to install
[05:50] <semistud2354> where the video should be
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: vlc-plugin-mozilla iirc
[05:51] <semistud2354> i installed the mozilla-plugin-vlc
[05:51] <semistud2354> and it dowsnt work
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> hmmm....
[05:51] <intelikey> mozilla-plugin-vlc - multimedia plugin for Mozilla based on VLC
[05:52] <dsmith_> sometimes I can never get mplayer to function with certain videos
[05:53] <semistud2354> have any of you had any luck with vlc
[05:53] <semistud2354> and firefox
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> does the vlc plugin need regular vlc installed?
[05:53] <semistud2354> i have vlc instead of mplayer
[05:53] <semistud2354> it seems to be able to have less bugs
[05:53] <semistud2354> so i kinda wanted to stick with that...
[05:54] <intelikey> semistud2354 i've used vlc in and out of X  but never with anything.
[05:54] <Mena> Hi
[05:54] <dsmith_> hi
[05:54] <semistud2354> what about thess package that say like vlc- plugin-sdl
[05:54] <hitmanWilly> howdy
[05:55] <intelikey> might try playing your vidio in vlc outside of ff and see what happens
[05:55] <semistud2354> or svgalib
[05:55] <semistud2354> its a stream
[05:55] <Mena> intelikey, does fiesty recongize Vista and add it to the grub ?
[05:55] <semistud2354> from gamespot
[05:55] <intelikey> vlc-plugin-svgalib is for watching vidio in the console
[05:56] <semistud2354> i was j/w if one of these could be like a required plugin that i needed
[05:56] <intelikey> mena it should.   i don't do windows and don't have feisty  so i'm not your goto guy on that Q  but it should
[05:56] <Mena> intelikey, ok
[05:56] <semistud2354> whas glide
[05:57] <semistud2354> it says somethin about streams but... i dunno
[05:57] <intelikey> vlc-plugin-glide - Glide video output plugin for VLC
[05:57] <intelikey> glide2-bin - graphics library for 3Dfx Voodoo based cards - support programs
[05:58] <dsmith_> is Keep a viable backup program?
[05:58] <semistud2354> hmm....whats the mplayer plugin...for firefox
[05:58] <semistud2354> just the plugin...maby i can just use that
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> mozilla-plugin-mplayer?
[05:59] <semistud2354> lol...simple enough...
[05:59] <SubOne> how do i setup a usb gamepad?
[05:59] <intelikey> !mozilla-plugin-mplayer
[05:59] <mefisto__> semistud2354: the mplayer plugin works very well for me.
[05:59] <semistud2354> does VLC mozilla plugin require java
[05:59] <intelikey> !info mozilla-plugin-mplayer
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> mozilla-mplayer
[05:59] <ubotu> Package mozilla-plugin-mplayer does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:00] <intelikey> that looks better
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> been awhile since i installed it :)
[06:00] <intelikey> semistud2354 i wouldn't think so
[06:00] <SubOne> actually i think i did it
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: wait, could this vid be flash? i know youtube uses flash for its vids
[06:01] <semistud2354> im trying to watch HALO 3 in gamespot
[06:01] <semistud2354> no video..  ;(
[06:02] <semistud2354> "This plugin adds support for MPEG, MPEG2, DVD, DivX, Ogg/Vorbis and many more formats to your Gecko-based web browser (Firefox, Galeon, etc.). The decoding process is done by VLC and the output window is embedded in a webpage or directly in the browser window. There is also support for fullscreen display and javascript control."
[06:02] <semistud2354> thats what the thing said
[06:02] <semistud2354> i noted the javascript
[06:02] <intelikey> probably could be that it is possable maybe
[06:02] <semistud2354> noticed*
[06:03] <semistud2354> well...how do i get java JRE to work on firefox
[06:03] <semistud2354> lol..
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: ok, just checked it, mplayer works for the vid...
[06:03] <intelikey> !java
[06:03] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: streaming halo 3 on gamespot, right?
[06:05] <semistud2354> yea
[06:05] <semistud2354> it works with mplayer??
[06:05] <hitmanWilly> just opened it up
[06:05] <hitmanWilly> yup, works fine...
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> also, a little trick for streaming downloaded video, you can open up the .part file firefox downloads with a video viewing app
[06:07] <hitmanWilly> sorta fake streaming
[06:08] <semistud2354> ok so there was a mozilla plugin
[06:08] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: mozilla-mplayer
[06:08] <semistud2354> sun-java6
[06:08] <mefisto__> hitmanWilly: you mean to download streaming video?
[06:08] <semistud2354> and that made the video work
[06:08] <semistud2354> with vlc mozilla plugin
[06:08] <intelikey> streamripper - download online streams into mp3 files
[06:08] <intelikey> vstream - bttv video capture utility aimed at making MPEGs
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> mefisto__: to watch a vid while its downloading
[06:09] <mefisto__> ok
[06:09] <semistud2354> but it sux
[06:09] <semistud2354> you cant stop/pause/skip
[06:09] <semistud2354> like with mplayer
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> right click and show controls
[06:09] <semistud2354> no right click
[06:09] <mefisto__> mplayer lets you pause, stop, etc
[06:09] <semistud2354> lol
[06:10] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: mac?
[06:10] <semistud2354> yea...i think imma get mplayer plugin with vlc for desktop usage
[06:10] <semistud2354> HELL NO....i use linux...all the way baby
[06:10] <hitmanWilly> i meant hardware wise...
[06:10] <semistud2354> but...the plugin doesnt let u use the rightclick
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> mine does...usually
[06:11] <semistud2354> so you cant stop
[06:11] <intelikey> hoy key
[06:11] <mefisto__> semistud2354: mplayer plugin lets you right-click, and has buttons to stop, pause, etc
[06:12] <semistud2354> whats the hotkey for stop/pause
[06:12] <intelikey> ctrl+p  ?
[06:12] <intelikey> not sure
[06:12] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: try spacebar
[06:13] <hitmanWilly> or not...
[06:13] <semistud2354> ctrl p doesnt work...neather does spacebar
[06:13] <intelikey> oh.  mn
[06:14] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: are you right-clicking on the video?
[06:14] <semistud2354> yea
[06:14] <hitmanWilly> no menu?
[06:14] <semistud2354> no menu pops up
[06:14] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, that's odd
[06:14] <intelikey> yeah
[06:15] <mefisto__> semistud2354: you've got mplayer plugin in firefox?
[06:15] <semistud2354> no...
[06:15] <semistud2354> vlc
[06:15] <semistud2354> it only works if you have java
[06:15] <hitmanWilly> ok, thought we were talking mplayer here
[06:16] <mefisto__> semistud2354: try left-clicking in the video to give it focus, then try spacebar, or some other key
[06:17] <mefisto__> semistud2354: oh, there's a firefox java plugin too, isn't there?
[06:17] <semistud2354> yea
[06:17] <semistud2354> another fyi....
[06:18] <semistud2354> quicktime...doesnt seem to be workin
[06:18] <mefisto__> j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[06:18] <semistud2354> with vlc
[06:18] <semistud2354> the plugin
[06:18] <intelikey> ok. well.  i'm sure yall will fix all the worlds problems without me.   so i'm went
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> later intelikey
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> ive noticed quicktime videos have a tendency to become disjointed from their audio streams
[06:20] <semistud2354> yea
[06:20] <semistud2354> the vlc plugin doesnt even work...with quicktime
[06:23] <semistud2354> is there just a stream video package
[06:23] <semistud2354> like....made for watching streams in firefox
[06:24] <semistud2354> not like mplayer...and mplayer plugin
[06:24] <semistud2354> ??
[06:27] <visitor-> is this getting through?
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> you need some kind of plugin for ff to view video
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> visitor-: yes
[06:27] <semistud2354> yea...
[06:28] <semistud2354> cuz to get mplayer...u need the player
[06:28] <semistud2354> cant just have player plugin
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> yup, its pretty small tho
[06:28] <visitor-> good...I wasn't certain
[06:28] <mefisto__> what's the problem with mplayer anyway?
[06:28] <semistud2354> j/w if theres like...a plugin made just for firefox or something that was made to watch video
[06:29] <semistud2354> well i have vlc and mplayer
[06:29] <semistud2354> i dont need 2 media players
[06:29] <semistud2354> lol
[06:29] <mefisto__> it seems you do
[06:29] <hitmanWilly> vlc is outstanding as a standalone, but the plugin needs some work
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> from what ive seen
[06:30] <mefisto__> I have 6 video players
[06:30] <semistud2354> geez 6
[06:30] <mefisto__> yeah, why not. all bases covered
[06:30] <semistud2354> lol
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> lemme see, vlc, kaffeine, xine, mplayer...
[06:31] <semistud2354> im alittle ashamed...microsoft has windows media player
[06:31] <visitor-> I have a kubuntu 6.1 live/install disc and a problem.  I have some pictures on a debian 4.0 installation and no luck getting it to archive them on a new cd.  Can I do it with kubuntu before installation rewrites the hard drive?
[06:31] <semistud2354> and that playes pritty much everything
[06:31] <semistud2354> and linux....
[06:31] <Linux_Galore> kaffeine is just a front end to xine/mplayer/gstreamer
[06:32] <hitmanWilly> it has to do with codec licensing
[06:32] <mefisto__> semistud2354: wmp doesn't play everything for me
[06:32] <hitmanWilly> a lot of nix codecs have to be either reverse engineered or aquired seperately
[06:32] <semistud2354> how so???
[06:33] <mefisto__> I use vlc in windows
[06:33] <Linux_Galore> you can legally buy the codecs
[06:33] <mefisto__> medibunutu, anyone?
[06:33] <BluesKaj> visitor , strange that you can't copy your photos to cd on debian.Are you using K3B ?
[06:33] <hitmanWilly> yes, but they still have to be installed seperately
[06:34] <semistud2354> whats medibuntu
[06:34] <visitor-> no...I tried cdrecord
[06:34] <LL_Hakaisou> question.
[06:34] <LL_Hakaisou> how do I reinstall Grub?
[06:34] <mefisto__> semistud2354: media-related repositories for k/ubuntu
[06:34] <LL_Hakaisou> it got all messed up when I installed a new drive
[06:34] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: its a set of repos for ubu for media stuff
[06:35] <semistud2354> whats that do
[06:35] <Linux_Galore> LL_Hakaisou: grub-install
[06:35] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: makes installing multimedia codecs easier
[06:35] <semistud2354> o...
[06:35] <Linux_Galore> LL_Hakaisou: if you want a   graphical tool you can try qtparted
[06:36] <semistud2354> personally i perfer if one program handled everything
[06:36] <mefisto__> semistud2354: it lets you install non-free codecs, etc easily, eg in adept or apt-get
[06:36] <semistud2354> then meny programs specializing
[06:36] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: that's just the way linux is...
[06:37] <LL_Hakaisou> is there a way to make the Live-CD see my other drives?
[06:37] <semistud2354> man...if i was rich i would so donate to k/ubuntu...so that they could make linux better
[06:37] <BluesKaj> visitor-, have you considered dual booting debian and kubuntu until you find a solution ...but i do still think K3B is the way to go , on debian if possible
[06:37] <Linux_Galore> semistud2354: one problem with a single program handling everything is it does everything but doesnt do any single one well
[06:37] <semistud2354> yea...thats where plugins come in
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> personally, i like the massive amt of choice between apps
[06:38] <visitor-> I will try the k3b route...thanks
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> different design philosophy
[06:39] <LL_Hakaisou> how do I make the Kubuntu LiveCD see my hard drives?
[06:39] <Linux_Galore> yeah, often a UI for one task doesnt work well with another even though the task may be similar
[06:39] <hitmanWilly> id rather have six different apps that each do one thing well than 1 that does everything sorta good
[06:40] <semistud2354> isnt that what windows media player does
[06:40] <semistud2354> everything well
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> that's debatable
[06:40] <semistud2354> now if it was open source...and ppl made plugins
[06:40] <semistud2354> it can do anything awesome
[06:40] <semistud2354> and save space on your comp
[06:40] <semistud2354> cuz you get what you need
[06:41] <LL_Hakaisou> !grub
[06:41] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> save space? have you seen the download size for the latest versions?
[06:41] <Linux_Galore> semistud2354: actually the window mp UI is horrible, it hides the media to show Microsoft logo's and menu's, it totally misses what its supposed to do, "show or play media" not pretty menu's or graphics that have nothing to do with the task at hand
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> sorta like Aero...
[06:42] <semistud2354> thats cuz windows is gay
[06:43] <semistud2354> but if you had like
[06:43] <semistud2354> vlc...and shit loads of plugins
[06:43] <hitmanWilly> ooohhh...pretty! (slows my comp to a crawl)...but pretty!!
[06:43] <mefisto__> wmp doesn't play dvd very well either
[06:43] <dr_willis> actually i was thinking on the last windows xp isntall i did. wmp dident play dvd's at all...
[06:43] <dr_willis> untill i installed some other stuff..
[06:43] <semistud2354> lol...theres a plugin that you had to buy to play dvds in wmp
[06:43] <dr_willis> never have figured that out. :)
[06:43] <semistud2354> i was like....
[06:43] <semistud2354> forget that
[06:44] <dr_willis> I think nero installed somthing.
[06:44] <dr_willis> so i couild playu them then
[06:44] <hitmanWilly> kaffeine comes close to being an all in one, but again, it is just a front-end
[06:44] <Linux_Galore> yeah, most dvd players come withsome sort of free DVD movie player
[06:44] <semistud2354> front-end???
[06:44] <mefisto__> hitmanWilly: but every gui program is really a front-end, no?
[06:44] <hiddensoul> dr_willis: it falls in to the "Ohh we can make some more money if we DONT include the DVD codecs with wmp"
[06:45] <dr_willis> hiddensoul,  they aint making any $$$ from me. :)
[06:45] <hitmanWilly> it calls other apps to do its actual tasks
[06:45] <Linux_Galore> semistud2354: kaffeine is UI not a media player as such, it uses mplayer an xine for that
[06:45] <hitmanWilly> mefisto__: for the most part...
[06:45] <hiddensoul> Didnt say they where
[06:46] <semistud2354> dont get me wrong...i love linux...it can do almost everything
[06:46] <hiddensoul> Im talking about the hundreds of average users
[06:46] <semistud2354> but just some little things
[06:46] <dr_willis> average users tend to be IDIOTS. :)
[06:46] <dr_willis> and they are worse then that.. they are idiots that feel their Oponions are imporntant. :)
[06:46] <Linux_Galore> semistud2354: I have found a work around for everything so far
[06:47] <hiddensoul> yep and that is the exact target audiance of M$
[06:47] <semistud2354> like....
[06:47] <semistud2354> kaffine
[06:48] <Linux_Galore> semistud2354: good example is an app to encode avi's and transfer them to 5G iPODS, took me 3 min to find thinliquidfilm
[06:49] <semistud2354> question...has anyone else heard someone refer to vista as alpha software....
[06:49] <dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  been educating people at work. :) the hard way
[06:49] <Linux_Galore> its (thinliquidfilm) is not on the Ubuntu repo's though
[06:49] <dr_willis> "Oh windows trashed your system again... too bad...., i never have that problem.. of course I dont use windows..."
[06:49] <dr_willis> :)
[06:50] <dr_willis> "tough love"
[06:50] <dr_willis> well bbl
[06:50] <hitmanWilly> oh, that's a nasty virus...never had it myself...
[06:50] <semistud2354> this guy was telling me that beryl(alpha) is like 100 times more stable
[06:50] <semistud2354> i just started laughing
[06:51] <semistud2354> then vista's aero
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: beryl is pretty stable compared to M$ bloatware
[06:51] <Linux_Galore> semistud2354: beryl/compiz wont be ready for at least another 5-6 months
[06:51] <semistud2354> and yet...its more stable then microsofts reliesed software
[06:51] <Linux_Galore> semistud2354: give kde 4.0 another 6 months to get up to speed
[06:52] <semistud2354> yea...i was lookin at that...i was like 8[06:52] <hitmanWilly> and aero uses even more resources than beryl does, for less eye candy
[06:52] <semistud2354> yea...thats microsoft for ya
[06:52] <Linux_Galore> yeah, we had beryl running at CEBIT Sydney and every time we did a run through there were 25+ people watching
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> using your own computer to cripple you...PMP anyone?
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> but im way offtopic here
[06:53] <Rictoo>            Depends: libxml2 (>= 2.6.28) but 2.6.27.dfsg-1ubuntu3 is installed
[06:53] <Rictoo> am I safe to get .28?
[06:53] <Linux_Galore> there are lots of new effects still in the works, ie putting objects in the middle of the cube
[06:54] <maryen> hello
[06:54] <maryen> need a bit of help please ^^
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> im waiting to see what the two teams can do with their combined resources...
[06:54] <Linux_Galore> Rictoo: yep
[06:54] <semistud2354> can you download kde 4.0
[06:54] <semistud2354> and use it
[06:54] <Rictoo> Linux_Galore: You're Orthodox? :D
[06:54] <semistud2354> or is it toooo alpha
[06:54] <Rictoo> oh
[06:54] <Rictoo> wrong chan
[06:54] <Rictoo> xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[06:54] <maryen> I need to know how to make a program start with the kernel
[06:55] <Rictoo> ok, thanks Linux_Galore
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: they just released an alpha of it
[06:55] <semistud2354> is it in adept
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> i wouldn't reccomend it yet
[06:55] <Linux_Galore> semistud2354: KDE 4.0 Alpha is on the repo, go to the kubuntu.org  home page and it tells you how to do it all
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> no
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> oh, nevermind...
[06:55] <Rictoo> how would I get libxml2 2.6.28
[06:55] <maryen> could anyone help please?
[06:55] <Rictoo> it's not in the repos :9
[06:56] <Linux_Galore> Rictoo: I would say its there but you have a conflict so it doesnt how ti
[06:56] <Linux_Galore> it*
[06:56] <Linux_Galore> show it*
[06:57] <hitmanWilly> :)
[06:57] <Arami> Anyone know a quick way to add a monitor resolution?
[06:57] <Arami> hehe
[06:58] <t3hfr3ak> anybody careto help with setting up SVIDEO with an NVidia GeForce 7600 GS?
[06:58] <hitmanWilly> Arami: you need to edit xorg.conf
[06:58] <Linux_Galore> Rictoo: ie something else depends on .27 so it will only show that version until you remove what depends on .27
[06:58] <Rictoo> Linux_Galore: I got it, thanks :)
[06:58] <Arami> Yeah I know that much, have it open, where would I add the 1440x900?
[06:59] <Rictoo> how different does kde4 look compared to kde3?
[06:59] <hitmanWilly> Arami: down near the end where it has all the reses
[06:59] <Linux_Galore> Rictoo: its not that different to be honest, most of the real improvement is under the skin
[06:59] <t3hfr3ak> anybody?
[06:59] <Arami> I have the Section "Screen" area, but it has serveral lines with resolutions on them.
[07:00] <hitmanWilly> Arami: you'll see pretty quick how its set up...
[07:00] <hitmanWilly> Arami: those are for different color depths
[07:00] <hitmanWilly> Arami: just add it to all of them
[07:00] <maryen> t3hfr3ak: try nvtv package?
[07:00] <hitmanWilly> Arami: all of the res lines
[07:01] <Rictoo> Linux_Galore:
[07:01] <Rictoo> libxml2 is already the newest version.
[07:01] <Rictoo> :\
[07:01] <Linux_Galore> Rictoo: the big changes will happen when the apps are ported over and make use of the extra features in kde 4.0. ie Amarok 2.0 is very different (even playes music videos)
[07:01] <t3hfr3ak> maryem: last time i tried... i had to reinstall ubuntu 7.04
[07:01] <Arami> hitmanwilly, Yep, I figured it out now I think hehe
[07:01] <hitmanWilly> :)
[07:01] <maryen> why is that t3hfr3ak? a repo package shouldn't kill your install
[07:01] <t3hfr3ak> maryen:
[07:02] <t3hfr3ak> maryen: the terminal stopped working... it was a white screen couldnt type ect
[07:02] <maryen> strange
[07:02] <maryen> well that's all I know about the problem sadly
[07:03] <t3hfr3ak> could it be i didnt have the driver installed properly (im new to this wonderful thing) lol
[07:03] <Arami> hitmanWilly, do I need to reinitilize, reboot, what have you, to see the changes so I can change the resolution under Display in the system settings?
[07:03] <hitmanWilly> Arami: just restart x
[07:04] <Linux_Galore> Amarok 2.0 pics -> http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.kde.de/appmonth/2005/amarok/amarok2.png&imgrefurl=http://www.kde.de/appmonth/2005/amarok/beschreibung.php&h=332&w=368&sz=62&hl=en&start=1&sig2=I7TFQDgzyp1tVkUSiFDaaQ&um=1&tbnid=brFJW17U6qGQnM:&tbnh=110&tbnw=122&ei=95tGRpbKAZ6WggPam_3gBw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Damarok%2B2%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dcom.ubuntu:en-US:official%26sa%3DG
[07:04] <Linux_Galore> oos
[07:04] <Linux_Galore> oops
[07:04] <hitmanWilly> Arami: ctrl-alt-bksp wil restart the x server immediately
[07:04] <Rictoo> err, I'm still kind of fuzzy on linux, but I know that if i compile something from source, it's pretty hard (usually) to uninstall it. Is there any way to compile something from source and then make a package out of it, so it can be uninstalled later rather easily?
[07:05] <Linux_Galore> Amarok 2.0 pics -> http://www.kde.de/appmonth/2005/amarok/beschreibung.php
[07:06] <Arami> Hmm
[07:06] <Arami> well now the refreshrate is annoyingly low.
[07:06] <hitmanWilly> wow...that's gonna rock
[07:06] <dsmith_> which folders should I backup in Linux? /home /var /opt /etc ??
[07:06] <hitmanWilly> Arami: you can change that too
[07:06] <dsmith_> or should I just do /
[07:07] <hitmanWilly> Arami: just add @60 or some such after the res setting ie "1440x900@60"
[07:07] <Linux_Galore> dsmith_: I just backuo /home  and /etc and /usr/local
[07:07] <dsmith_> have you ever done a restore?
[07:07] <Rictoo> How would I build a package from source?
[07:07] <t3hfr3ak> anybody wanna help me install grpahics drivers for my NVidia GeForce 7600 GS?
[07:07] <hitmanWilly> Arami: the number is the ref rate in Hz
[07:07] <Arami> hitmanWilly, thanks :)
[07:07] <Linux_Galore> Rictoo: varies, if your lazy you can use kompile
[07:08] <hitmanWilly> np
[07:08] <carutsu> i need to make a network back up, does anyone know what program should i check?
[07:08] <dsmith_> I am trying out Keep
[07:08] <dsmith_> but I have used acronis truimage from a live cd
[07:08] <alejandro> anybody wanna help me install grpahics drivers for my NVidia GeForce 7300gt
[07:08] <Rictoo> kompile?
[07:08] <Rictoo> What's that?
[07:08] <carutsu> kompile?
[07:08] <carutsu> !kompile
[07:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kompile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <Linux_Galore> !nvidia
[07:08] <carutsu> !info kompile
[07:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:08] <ubotu> kompile: interface for compilation automation for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3~beta2-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 172 kB, installed size 908 kB
[07:08] <carutsu> that is
[07:09] <dsmith_> !keep
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keep - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <dsmith_> !info keep
[07:09] <ubotu> keep: backup system for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 202 kB, installed size 1156 kB
[07:09] <dsmith_> Thx Linux_galore
[07:10] <hitmanWilly> wow, kompile seems pretty neat
[07:10] <hitmanWilly> no more ./configure :)
[07:10] <Rictoo> yeah
[07:10] <Rictoo> it's neattt
[07:10] <Linux_Galore> hitmanWilly: doesnt fix dependencies though
[07:11] <t3hfr3ak> linuc_galore: i tried that last time... to no avail
[07:11] <Rictoo> of course not
[07:11] <Rictoo> lol
[07:11] <hitmanWilly> well, that's always a problem
[07:11] <Rictoo> t3hfr3ak: l2tab
[07:11] <carutsu> does anyone know a program to make a network back up?
[07:11] <t3hfr3ak> l2tab?
[07:11] <Rictoo> Learn to tab
[07:11] <Rictoo> type the beginning of someones nick, and then type tab
[07:11] <Rictoo> ;)
[07:12] <hitmanWilly> of course, there's always apt-build for the gentoo refugees :)
[07:12] <t3hfr3ak> Linux_Galore: i tried that before to no avail
[07:12] <t3hfr3ak> Rictoo: thanks lol
[07:12] <Arami> >.< I can't edit the xorg.conf now...wtf.
[07:12] <Rictoo> ;)
[07:12] <Rictoo> crap
[07:12] <Linux_Galore> t3hfr3ak: ?  you cant select the nvidia driver in the package manager
[07:12] <Rictoo> I take all this effort to get desmume working
[07:12] <Rictoo> and then I find out it requires Gnome
[07:12] <Rictoo> ............
[07:13] <t3hfr3ak> Linux_Galore: I can... i just dont know which one to grab
[07:13] <hitmanWilly> Arami: did you sudo it?
[07:13] <hitmanWilly> Arami: you need root to edit that one
[07:13] <Linux_Galore> t3hfr3ak: if you have a GF 4 or later just use the standard nvidia package if its older use the legacy driver
[07:13] <Arami> rofl I had sodo instead of sudo :P
[07:13] <Arami> No wonder.
[07:14] <hitmanWilly> lol
[07:14] <hitmanWilly> typos...
[07:14] <Rictoo> hmm
[07:14] <Rictoo> I get this when running a nds emulator:
[07:14] <Rictoo> The error was 'GLXBadContext'.
[07:14] <Arami> Lol brb
[07:14] <t3hfr3ak> Linux_Galore: in Restricted Device Manager... i selected NVidia accelerated graphics driver
[07:15] <hitmanWilly> ok, /me needs some sleep
[07:15] <carutsu> !backup
[07:15] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[07:15] <hitmanWilly> later all
[07:15] <carutsu> !sbackup
[07:15] <Arami> Doh
[07:15] <ubotu> sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe
[07:15] <Arami> Ok
[07:15] <Arami> Just a quick tip for everyone...Don't edit conf files when you haven't slept in 19 hours :(
[07:16] <carutsu> !cloning
[07:16] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[07:16] <carutsu> wow
[07:18] <Arami> ok...Now lemme try this again >.>
[07:18] <Arami> Hm...
[07:19] <Arami> Well I got the resolution to work, the refresh rate is refusing to change now.
[07:20] <Arami> hitmanWilly, you still about?
[07:25] <hakaisou> question.  is there any way to take control over my windows installation partition so i can get the files off of it?
[07:25] <hakaisou> it's locked up...
[07:27] <AutoMatriX> hakaisou:  try with a live disk
[07:28] <hakaisou> live disk doesn't see ANY drives...
[07:28] <hakaisou> not that I could access anyway
[07:29] <AutoMatriX> hakaisou:  even as a superuser ?
[07:30] <hakaisou> nope
[07:30] <hakaisou> HDA2, my windows XP install, is completely locked from access
[07:30] <hakaisou> I don't have the rights to access it
[07:30] <AutoMatriX> ouich
[07:30] <hakaisou> and i'd like them, so I can take what I want from my windows install and blast that partition
[07:31] <AutoMatriX> qtparted :s
[07:31] <hakaisou> that will blast it, but not let be get to the data
[07:32] <AutoMatriX> that's why I added ':s'
[07:32] <hakaisou> o_0
[07:33] <hakaisou> wait....
[07:33] <hakaisou> huh?
[07:33] <AutoMatriX> hakaisou: that's not a switch, it meant to be a 'sad' smiley
[07:33] <hakaisou> ah
[07:33] <nimble> i thought that was a confused smiley
[07:34] <AutoMatriX> nimble: right, Iforgot the word in English
[07:34] <nimble> ah i see
[07:34] <hakaisou> hmmm, it seems that my windows drive is empty... which doesn't make sence cause qtparted shows it being almost full
[07:34] <Rictoo> I know this is probably EXTREMELY idiotic, but:
[07:34] <Rictoo> Will KDE3 apps work on KDE4?
[07:35] <AutoMatriX> but ... thinking of it .... do you have unionfs installes
[07:35] <nimble> might be corrupted
[07:35] <hakaisou> i thought that might be the case
[07:35] <t3hfr3ak> uhoh HELP lol
[07:36] <AutoMatriX> hakaisou: you might google around to find some info about unionFS ... that might be a solution
[07:36] <hakaisou> Hey AutoMatrix, thanks for helping me reinstall grub
[07:36] <t3hfr3ak> i installed NVidia binary driver through packet thing... and now i cant get on ubuntu
[07:36] <nimble> package manager?
[07:36] <t3hfr3ak> aye
[07:37] <nimble> did you run nvidia-xconfig?
[07:37] <t3hfr3ak> i cant get on lol
[07:38] <nimble> not even into the console?
[07:38] <Arami> I was wondering an opinion on something...I've heard good things about Opera, and I am typically a Firefox user, but I'm considering a switch, at least for the *Nix partition...So anyone have an opinion for me?
[07:38] <t3hfr3ak> nimble: how do i run nvidia-xconfig to fix it?
[07:38] <nimble> i remember  using opera ages ago, that was only for website development though
[07:39] <Arami> nimble, what do you think of it as a general browser?
[07:40] <carutsu> Arami: un 2 words, swiss-knife
[07:40] <AutoMatriX> bye folks
[07:40] <carutsu> or something like that has so many features
[07:41] <t3hfr3ak> nimble: so?
[07:41] <Arami> carutsu, That's what I've heard, that it comes packed with all sorts of everythings, where as Firefox does start out bare until you get all your extensions and such.
[07:41] <nimble> well it seemed pretty good, but i didnt really have much reason to try and switch
[07:42] <carutsu> Arami: yep
[07:42] <nimble> "sudo nvidia-xconfig" should be all you need
[07:43] <Karu> hi
[07:43] <nimble> do startx to test it and if that doesnt work then itll at least say what the error is
[07:43] <Arami> carutsu, what I've been wondering is, since Opera doesn't have "Extensions" per say, is what it comes with practical? I was never for the fluff people put in Firefox, music players and such...I only used extensions that were useful in my daily browsing life.
[07:43] <t3hfr3ak> it doesnt recognize my card though... how do i fix it?
[07:43] <t3hfr3ak> rather ill brb with the error
[07:44] <Rictoo> 003544  Rictoo I know this is probably EXTREMELY idiotic, but:
[07:44] <Rictoo> 003545  Rictoo Will KDE3 apps work on KDE4?
[07:44] <carutsu> Arami: mostly of them are practical as far as i can tell
[07:44] <carutsu> Rictoo: basically, no
[07:44] <Rictoo> nooooooooooooooooooooooo =((((((((((((((((((((
[07:44] <carutsu> Rictoo: but mostly of the will be ported so no worries
[07:44] <Rictoo> all of them* ?
[07:44] <nimble> might as well just try opera out, its not like its really hard to set up or costs any money
[07:45] <Arami> carutsu, Ok, thanks, from what I've read, and you've told me, I think I might try it out.
[07:45] <Karu> sry, but which is the channel for spanish people? :p
[07:45] <nimble> can always port any that you want ;)
[07:45] <carutsu> Karu #kubuntu-es
[07:45] <Rictoo> Unfortunatly I need to get on Windows, brb
[07:45] <carutsu> !es|Karu
[07:45] <ubotu> Karu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:46] <Karu> ty!!! ^_^
[07:46] <carutsu> Karu no hay problema
[07:46] <mefisto__> for those of you running beryl from ~./kde/Autostart, and get tray icons appearing as small windows instead of tray icons, try putting "beryl-manager" in applications to be excluded from sessions in system settings>advanced>session manager
[07:47] <mefisto__> I just restarted and everything started normally, with no stray icons
[07:48] <Arami> Hehe
[07:48] <Arami> I regret that Spanish was one of the languages I never learned.
[07:49] <carutsu> Arami: my native language is indeed spanish
[07:49] <Arami> carutsu, Ah.
[07:49] <carutsu> XD
[07:50] <carutsu> that was an "Ah" like "Ah, so what?"?

[07:51] <carutsu> Arami: just joking, xD
[07:51] <carutsu> I have a weird problem
[07:52] <carutsu> my sound just comes out from one speaker
[07:52] <carutsu> the problem is the volume in alsamixer but i fix it and some minutes later it gets back to one speaker again
[07:52] <amachu> hi
[07:52] <amachu> any application other than font forge
[07:53] <carutsu> eh? what for?
[07:53] <amachu> that we can use to create fonts, in KDE
[07:53] <amachu> i am using Kubuntu Edgy
[07:53] <carutsu> mm
[07:53] <carutsu> !font
[07:53] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[07:53] <xlinux_> wow! I never knew kubuntu had an IRC channel. Sup guys?
[07:54] <carutsu> amachu: have you googled it?
[07:54] <amachu> tried it but very little convincing results
[07:55] <carutsu> amachu: oops me too, sorry i have no clue
[07:55] <carutsu> xlinux_: here we are to help you... if we can
[07:55] <amachu> have any one tried fontforge in Kubuntu
[07:55] <hakaisou> !mount
[07:55] <amachu> i do not want to make a try in vain
[07:55] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:56] <xlinux_> well, I guess I have one issue.. frostwire
[07:56] <xlinux_> it white screens when I try to load it; I have java installed
[07:56] <amachu> i am interested in creating unicode font
[07:57] <xlinux_> either that or it closes automatically right after it opens.. azureus does the same thing
[07:58] <nimble> do all java apps do it?
[07:58] <xlinux_> yes, it seems that way.. but not all the time
[07:59] <xlinux_> if I delete the .azureus folder in /home, it will work
[07:59] <xlinux_> but do it again at a later time
[07:59] <carutsu> amachu: why dont you want to try it? you will not pay for it?
[08:00] <amachu> carutsu: i will for sure try.. but just ask before starting
[08:00] <carutsu> amachu: i've never tried, sorry
[08:01] <amachu> carutsu: so that others experience will help me saving some time
[08:01] <carutsu> ok
[08:02] <nimble> whats the stdout for the java apps when you get these problems?
[08:02] <xlinux_> stdout? you mean running via terminal?
[08:03] <nimble> yeah
[08:04] <knapp> How can I remove the sidebar on the KDE menu?
[08:04] <xlinux_> its really long...
[08:04] <nimble> well, does any of it look like errors
[08:05] <xlinux_> yeah... ill post it
[08:05] <xlinux_> Event dispatch in wrong thread
[08:05] <xlinux_> expected thread was [Lirc.DispatchThread;@1ba1d9
[08:05] <xlinux_> current thread is Thread[main,5,main]
[08:06] <xlinux_> then tells me to submit a bug report, and lists a ton of info to send with it
[08:07] <xlinux_> knapp: right click on a panel and go to remove panel.. you should find the panel you want to remove
[08:07] <nimble> hmm, well i cant really get anything from that
[08:07] <nimble> what window manager are you using?
[08:07] <xlinux_> hmmm... i was messing with Beryl- let me try kwin
[08:08] <nimble> beryl has problems with java
[08:08] <xlinux_> really... nice to know
[08:08] <nimble> though i didnt think they worked at all
[08:08] <nimble> the graphical side
[08:08] <xlinux_> wham
[08:08] <xlinux_> frostwire opens
[08:08] <xlinux_> nice dude
[08:09] <Cosmo__> well I have given Kubuntu 2 months before deciding on my prefered OS...... and I have to say Kubuntu wins by a long way, just wish I could get roseta stone and dragon naturally speaking working in it then I would never have to use winblows for anything again
[08:09] <xlinux_> I dont use beryl that much anyway
[08:10] <carutsu> Cosmo__: i just love KDE, Gnome is not so twekable
[08:10] <carutsu> xD
[08:10] <carutsu> well guys gotta go
[08:10] <nimble> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Java theres some information on getting java stuff working in beryl
[08:11] <carutsu> see you arung
[08:11] <xlinux_> KDE seems more buggy, at least in Kubuntu
[08:11] <xlinux_> but it is more powerful
[08:11] <xlinux_> and better integrated
[08:11] <Cosmo__> yeah, got my mom to try ubuntu but I am trying to talk her into switching over to KDE
[08:11] <Skrot-> xlinux_: With beryl?
[08:12] <xlinux_> Skrot.. what was that?
[08:12] <Skrot-> ah, nevermind, I think I misread
[08:12] <xlinux_> nimble thanks for that link.. checking it out
[08:15] <t3hfr3ak> so i installed nvidia-glx through paket manager and it crashed my system... i just replaced the xorg.conf with the back up... i need help with my driver :'(
[08:16] <nimble> so is x currently working?
[08:16] <t3hfr3ak> after replacing my xorg.conf with the old one yes
[08:16] <nimble> and thats using the nv driver?
[08:16] <t3hfr3ak> no
[08:17] <nimble> what driver is it using then?
[08:17] <t3hfr3ak> none
[08:17] <t3hfr3ak> default installation
[08:17] <Skrot-> t3hfr3ak: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old | grep EE
[08:17] <nimble> :/ has to be using a driver if its working
[08:17] <Skrot-> If that file doesn't exist, try cat /var/log/Xorg.1.log | grep EE
[08:18] <Skrot-> nimble: It's probably using the standard vesa-driver or the open source nvidia driver
[08:18] <t3hfr3ak> skort-: what for?
[08:18] <Skrot-> t3hfr3ak: To check for errors in Xorg the last time you tried to start it (with nvidia driver enabled)
[08:18] <t3hfr3ak> should i install the nvidia-glx-new instead?
[08:19] <nimble> what graphics card do you have?
[08:19] <t3hfr3ak> GeForce 7600 GS
[08:19] <Skrot-> I've got the nvidia-glx package for a GO 7300
[08:20] <t3hfr3ak> Skort-: Error at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20592/
[08:21] <xlinux_> ahhhhhh
[08:21] <xlinux_> i have the same card
[08:21] <xlinux_> I can hook you up here
[08:21] <t3hfr3ak> xlinux_: oh really?
[08:21] <xlinux_> yup
[08:21] <xlinux_> do a google search for the NVIDIA website
[08:22] <xlinux_> go to drivers and to linux
[08:22] <Skrot-> uhm
[08:22] <t3hfr3ak> xlinux_: k there