[09:55] <iptable> RoBo_V, on occasions I had issues with download from certain servers which would at high load times send a message "complete, end of transmission" to all clients, resulting in wget thinking that the file was fully downloaded.
[09:56] <iptable> RoBo_V, just because it's wget doesn't mean your file is OK. also, your ISP could be modifying packets.
[09:56] <iptable> karab44, glad you got the workaround to work though
[09:56] <glcheetham> so who knows how to reset my user profile to defaults?
[09:57] <RoBo_V> iptable: I see, wll im on my way to make Ubuntu as my primary OS . will explore more as goes
[09:57] <RoBo_V> ditching windows (or for only gaming)
[09:57] <iptable> glcheetham, create new profile, move all relevant data files to new profile, remove old profile
[09:57] <stonner> iptable, doesnt works for me
[09:57] <stonner> iptable, i tried
[09:57] <karab44> That was annoying and disturbing but not very harmful (until I opened 500MB file with notepad) yes, thank you  :)
[09:57] <cfhowlett> glcheetham, nule your /home
[09:57] <iptable> RoBo_V, good for you :)
[09:57] <cfhowlett> nuke
[09:58] <glcheetham> cfhowlett, lol
[09:58] <joedoe-> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/965371 - reintroduced this bug
[09:58] <glcheetham> well, i'll get right on it
[09:58] <iptable> stonner, tried reinstalling the driver? and how did you install it in the first place?
[09:58] <joedoe-> 14.04 LTS
[10:00] <stonner> iptable, i purged nouveau drivers, and installed 331.89 nvidia driver
[10:00] <stonner> iptable, i reinstalled millions of time
[10:00] <stonner> iptable, already
[10:02] <ObrienDave> stonner, did you reboot after installing?
[10:02] <stonner> ObrienDave, yes
[10:03] <cynicallemon> stonner: how did you install the video driver?
[10:03] <stonner> ObrienDave, with nouveau drivers the system doesnt crash
[10:03] <stonner> cynicallemon, first i change to a virtual terminal
[10:03] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : I done a " debootstrap --arch amd64 trusty /mnt/ubuntu /var/run/media/wolfheart/"Ubuntu 14.04 LTS amd64"/dists/trusty
[10:03] <rainbowwarrior>  " with the quotes and now I get this error "
[10:03] <rainbowwarrior> E: unknown location /var/run/media/wolfheart/Ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release "
[10:03] <RoBo_V> Guys what is this .fude_hidden file in my samba shared folder, can't delete it
[10:03] <stonner> cynicallemon, i purged nouveau drivers
[10:03] <stonner> cynicallemon, blacklisted nouveau driver
[10:04] <stonner> cynicallemon, rebooted
[10:04] <stonner> cynicallemon, go virtual terminal again
[10:04] <stonner> cynicallemon, closes X window
[10:04] <stonner> cynicallemon, installed nvidia 331.89 driver
[10:04] <ObrienDave> rainbowwarrior, debootstrap --arch amd64 trusty /mnt/ubuntu "/var/run/media/wolfheart/Ubuntu 14.04 LTS amd64/dists/trusty"
[10:04] <stonner> cynicallemon, rebooted the system
[10:05] <ObrienDave> rainbowwarrior, you can't use quotes in the middle like that
[10:05] <cynicallemon> stonner: did u manually download and install nvidia driver?
[10:05] <stonner> cynicallemon, yes
[10:05] <ech0s7> i have this problem: i have a daemon script that play audio (with aplay) every 5second. If i run this script from shell works perfectly. But if i launch it at boot (from /etc/rc.local) with same user, i don't hear audio. I have noticed only one difference with "ps aux", that when i launch from shell process have a TTY dedicated, instead from launching at boot from rc.local haven't a TTY. Why i don't hear audio when i launch at boot ??
[10:06] <cynicallemon> stonner: why didnt you do it via ubuntu?
[10:06] <rainbowwarrior> ObrienDave : Ok I done that and got this error " E: unknown location /var/run/media/wolfheart/Ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release
[10:06] <rainbowwarrior> "
[10:06] <stonner> cynicallemon, because i prefer to use a more recente nvidia driver
[10:06] <cynicallemon> stonner: so maybe thats your issue?
[10:07] <iptable> tonnwhy did you purge nouveau?
[10:07] <iptable> stonner, and HOW did you install nvidia driver?
[10:07] <stonner> cynicallemon, i tried ubuntu packages too, but no success
[10:07] <iptable> stonner, 1. shouldn't purge nouveau, 2. I need to know how you isntalled it.
[10:08] <stonner> iptable, i blacklisted nouveau
[10:08] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, precreate the directory
[10:08] <stonner> iptable, after nvidia installed, i removed nouveau
[10:08] <iptable> stonner, HOW?
[10:09] <stonner> iptable, sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[10:09] <iptable> stonner, I will ask last time. HOW DID YOU INSTALL IT!
[10:10] <k1l> since he talked around it he did get the package from the nvidia site i think
[10:10] <stonner> iptable, download nvidia driver from nvidia website, give executable permissions, terminate lightdm, and isntall nvidia driver from command line
[10:10] <iptable> k1l, he also said "I tried the package as well". HOW? apt-get/the GUI provided, or hat
[10:10] <iptable> stonner, the nvidia driver for the website is unpatched and will not work
[10:11] <iptable> stonner, what you should have done was you should have used the provided drivers GUI in the OS. but if you insist on using the ocmmand line, 1. do NOT blacklist nouveau, no need. 2, execute this:
[10:11] <iptable> stonner, 1. apt-get install linux-headers, 2. apt-get install build-essential, 3. apt-get install nvidia-331-updates nvidia-331-updates-uvm nvidia-libopencl1-331-updates nvidia-opencl-icd-331-updates nvidia-prime nvidia-settings
[10:12] <iptable> stonner, it is because the driver needs to compile a module for the kernel, you need build-essential and linux-headers
[10:12] <stonner> iptable, i have build-essential a linux-headers installed
[10:13] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : same error
[10:13] <iptable> stonner, so now install the nvidia packages as I asked. if you can, uninstall beforehand
[10:13] <iptable> stonner, uninstall what you have already instaleld that it.
[10:13] <iptable> stonner, if you had installed from packages form start up, it probably would have worked for you ... hence it's in the repo. also, are you running hybrid graphics?
[10:14] <stonner> iptable, no, just one vga
[10:14] <votz> How can a VM that mounts an NFS export served by its host (mount <host interface>:/export) migrate to another host and mount/remount the new host's NFS share at the same address and path (mount <same host interface:/export) without interruption?
[10:14] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, http://glonek.co.uk/tips-tricks/ubuntu-debootstrap-and-chroot/
[10:14] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, full instruction step by step. just use trusty instead of jaunty
[10:14] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : ok thank you
[10:14] <stonner> iptable, i always installed from nvidia website and never had problem until now
[10:15] <iptable> stonner, I used to do that until I found that nvidia drivers don't work well (and sometimes at all) on ubuntu. hence the patched version in the repos
[10:15] <sagar__> hi budyys
[10:15] <iptable> stonner, use the repos. they are there for a reason. e.g. if nvidia provides a driver that doesn't work.
[10:15] <sky_man> hi folks
[10:16] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, ins short, mkdir /mnt/sys01; debootstrap --arch amd64 trusty /mnt/sys01 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[10:16] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, that should work for you
[10:16] <stonner> iptable, ok thank you
[10:16] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, all as root
[10:17] <stonner> iptable, i will try
[10:17]  * ObrienDave nap time. l8rs
[10:18] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : Thank You that worked , I am sorry for being a pain
[10:18] <penos> just use windows firewall
[10:18] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, no, you just overcomplicated your life and your commands. first thing, avoid spaces if you can. second, follow my tutorial
[10:18] <cynicallemon> rainbowwarrior: debootstrap saves the day again
[10:19] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : ok thank you :o)
[10:19] <rainbowwarrior> cynicallemon : yep
[10:19] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, my tutorial also covers some basic mounts, like proc and sys. you might want to add dev to the list too
[10:19] <penos> windows security essentials
[10:20] <cfhowlett> penos, channel check?
[10:20] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : ok thank you
[10:20] <cynicallemon> penos: mutually exclusive terms there
[10:20] <cloneh> Keyboard layout changes randomly. What can I do? In the text input settings exists only one language.
[10:21] <cloneh> I think there is a shortcut that isn't related to the text input settings.
[10:22] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Ok i re-installed ubuntu
[10:23] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Same problem, It booted into windows
[10:23] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, did you play with "where to install grub" or left it as default?
[10:23] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, grub should have installed to /dev/sda
[10:24] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> I left is as default
[10:24] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, if so, then windows and/or BIOS have UEFI boot security enabled, hence you cannot write grub to /dev/sda and install fails (pretend success of UEFI)
[10:24] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> I killed secure boot in BIOS
[10:24] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, 10/10 it's not enabled .-.
[10:25] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, well, appears some security setting is amis. ubuntu still failed to write to /dev/sda and thought it succeeded
[10:25] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, So what can i do .-.
[10:26] <Vladimir_> iptable: is it possible to initiate the expect script after i logged in with ssh user@host ?
[10:26] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, DID you 1. remove battery (if laptop) and power supply cable from your computer and press power button once? you shoudl have. then insert battery and power cable, boot and boot straight into installer. if you fail to get to installer, repeat. that usually opens the security up.
[10:26] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, if not, then comb through BIOS. If you cannot find the right setting, you are most likely stuffed as you purchased a windows-only-hahaha-laptop.
[10:26] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, although that's unlikely. usually yhere is a way
[10:26] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, My laptop's battery's unremoveable
[10:27] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, ugh, ok. good luck. comb through BIOS. SOMETHING is stopping ubuntu from writing to UEFI
[10:27] <iptable> Vladimir_, why would you need to do that?
[10:27] <iptable> Vladimir_, ssh user@host "commands-go-here"
[10:28] <iptable> Vladimir_, or better, put your commands in a simple script on remote host and then ssh user@host "/path/to/your/script"
[10:28] <cloneh> ExtremeDerpAndSo, I joined the conversation just a few seconds ago. Did you bootet from the USB stick in UEFI mode?
[10:28] <iptable> Vladimir_, forget expect, please!
[10:28] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> cloneh, Yeah
[10:29] <Vladimir_> iptable: it's just that I've already done a big expect script :/
[10:29] <cloneh> ExtremeDerpAndSo, and can you check if the installation of Ubuntu has succeded? The Ubuntu partition exists?
[10:29] <Vladimir_> which does all the neccessary commands
[10:29]  * Seromania is now away: Momentan nicht erreichbar
[10:29] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> cloneh, It does
[10:29] <lacop> Hi, I need some help with updating my kernel...
[10:29] <esseks> Hi guys! Suppose I have an existing LUKS+LVM layout on a UEFI machine. I would like to install Ubuntu in a lv I created for this purpose, let it mount my preexisting /home and and use kernel stub (no GRUB). I could work my way with old alternate (Debian style) installer, but now, how do I do that?
[10:30] <penos> lacop just do ot
[10:30] <penos> it
[10:30] <lacop> Need 3.13.0-35 for the nvidia drivers it seems, now on -32, I've downloaded linux-image-..-generic, image-extra and image-headers
[10:30] <penos> ?
[10:30] <theadmin> esseks: The minimal CD has a text installer. You can then pull in ubuntu-desktop using APT
[10:30] <lacop> ran update-grub and it shows up in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[10:30] <iptable> Vladimir_, and now redo it pproperly, it is a copy-paste job most of the way
[10:30] <lacop> but not in the boot menu
[10:30] <theadmin> !minimal
[10:30] <Vladimir_> iptable: thou after the ssh-copy-id login it keeps asking me about the password
[10:30] <iptable> Vladimir_, ssh-copy-id copied your key over?
[10:30] <Vladimir_> yes
[10:31] <theadmin> esseks: The text installer is basically the same as the Debian one, except blue is replaced with purple
[10:31] <ruffalogauf> /leav/leave
[10:31] <Vladimir_> It succeded
[10:31] <iptable> Vladimir_, so if you ssh to the user@host yhat you did ssh-copy-id to, it should no longer ask for password
[10:31] <cloneh> ExtremeDerpAndSo, you can try boot repair. It's an Ubuntu tool to fix the most common boot issues. Just boot from your Ubuntu USB stick, install boot repair and click "Recommended repair". https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[10:31] <penos> !ubuntu
[10:31] <lacop> The grub menu is still the same, showing only -32, I've tried editing the boot params from there and replaced 32 with 35, but it just went black and rebooted back to bios after a second
[10:31] <ddv> lacop: how did you install the kernel/
[10:31] <iptable> Vladimir_, unless some idiot disabled the only most useful features in ssh
[10:31] <lacop> ddv: apt-get install linux-image-...-generic, image-extra, headers
[10:31] <lacop> then update-grub
[10:31] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> I hate grub and UEFI along with Windows 8.1 and secure boot .-.
[10:31] <Vladimir_> iptable: is it in the sshd config file?
[10:32] <Vladimir_> I'll check
[10:32] <penos> !linux
[10:32] <ddv> lacop: update-grub is automatically called if you install a kernel
[10:32] <lacop> But /boot/grub/grub.cfg is fine, however when I reboot I still see the old stuff
[10:32] <iptable> Vladimir_, yes. KeyBasedAuth or something along those lines
[10:32] <penos> !unintu
[10:32] <penos> !ubuntu
[10:32] <lacop> when I go to the other ubuntu submenu or what it's called there is only the -32 kernel, not the 35
[10:32] <lacop> I got 32, 33, 34 and 35 in /boot so not sure what's going on
[10:33] <ddv> lacop: I think it will remember 5 old kernels
[10:33] <ddv> or something like that
[10:33] <ddv> lacop: your new kernel is not in the list?
[10:33] <lacop> no, just the 32
[10:33] <lacop> the grub menu is not responding to the config for some reason
[10:34] <lacop> I can see all the new ones in grub.cfg, grub-customizer also shows them
[10:34] <penos> use HURD
[10:34] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | penos,
[10:34] <ddv> penos: maybe in 20 years when it reaches the maturity of the linux kernel
[10:36] <lacop> ddv: any idea how to debug the grub menu?
[10:36] <ddv> lacop: no idea, maybe you should reinstall grub to your drive
[10:36] <lacop> but I don't think the grub menu is the sole issue, as I said...
[10:36] <lacop> when I select the old -32 kernel menu entry and modify it to 35 and boot, it just crashes
[10:37] <esseks> theadmin, thanks! Unfortunately, it seems that the mini CD cannot boot in UEFI mode. I would rather avoid the BIOS-to-UEFI path :(
[10:37] <ech0s7> where i can get info(how-to) to setup a process at boot ?
[10:37] <theadmin> esseks: Ah... yeah, I can see how that is a problem :/
[10:37] <theadmin> esseks: Does the DVD have a text install? I think it used to, but I dunno if it does now. Try holding Shift during boot and see
[10:38] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Ok so..
[10:38] <theadmin> esseks: (left shift, that is)
[10:38] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> I disabled UEFI completely
[10:38] <user123321> kernel log got overloaded by around 30 MB with things like "FAT-fs (sdb1): error, invalid access to FAT (entry 0x61202073)" o.O
[10:38] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> And chose legacy
[10:38] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> It boots straight to ubuntu, No grub
[10:38] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> just like the previous installation
[10:39] <cloneh> ExtremeDerpAndSo, did you tried boot repair?
[10:39] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> That broke ubuntu completely last time
[10:40] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, it DOES have grub, it's just that grub is configured with hidden-boot-menu
[10:40] <esseks> ExtremeDerpAndSo, maybe GRUB what-to-boot menu has a timeout set to 0 (and possibly, mode set to hidden)
[10:40] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> So.. How can i fix that?
[10:40] <penos> install slackware
[10:40] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> .-.
[10:41] <cfhowlett> penos, upi
[10:41] <esseks> Edit the respective variables in /etc/default/grub . Maybe paste it somewhere for us to check before editing.
[10:41] <esseks> _before_ ;)
[10:42] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> imma use pastebin
[10:42] <user123321> Machine got frozen again during boot with nothing on screen. Kernel log from the start of boot to the emergency restart: http://pastebin.com/A5V8yWjS
[10:42] <user123321> Any ideas? Thanks :)
[10:43] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> http://pastebin.com/GcrEb1Wt
[10:43] <NicksCode> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8222583/ .... uhh how is that possible? The first update was done from the software updater and the second from the command line
[10:44] <esseks> ExtremeDerpAndSo, set `GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=3` and `GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=false`. Then run `sudo update-grub`.
[10:45] <Vladimir_> iptable: doesn't seem to work
[10:45] <sky_man> hi
[10:45] <iptable> Vladimir_, WHAT doesn't seem to work?
[10:45] <Vladimir_> iptable: I found PermitEmptyPasswords and changed it to "yes"
[10:45] <rainbowwarrior> hmm for a new I7 quad core laptop and an 80 MB internet connection it sure is being slow and still unpacking packages lol
[10:45] <Vladimir_> and still it asks me for password
[10:45] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Tells me i can't edit cause i am not root, Esseks
[10:45] <rainbowwarrior> and 8GB of memory
[10:45] <kagamiwaseda> hi
[10:45] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> imma try nano
[10:46] <rainbowwarrior> hello kagamiwaseda
[10:48] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> esseks , Now i reboot in UEFI or legacy?
[10:48] <Vladimir_> iptable: Thing is, maybe there's configuration on the switch to allow passwordless access..
[10:49] <iptable> Vladimir_, switch? what's switch got to do with server and client?
[10:49] <iptable> Vladimir_, NOT permit empty passwords, do not allow it!
[10:49] <iptable> Vladimir_, it's these: RSAAuthentication yes
[10:49] <iptable> PubkeyAuthentication yes
[10:49] <Vladimir_> iptable: okey, but can't find any KeyBasedAuth config
[10:50] <iptable> Vladimir_, it's these: RSAAuthentication yes and PubkeyAuthentication yes
[10:50] <iptable> Vladimir_, PLEASE! read, not guess.
[10:50] <user123321> Ok, I'm going to reboot and run a memtest, brb
[10:50] <Vladimir_> iptable: they're already "yes"
[10:51] <iptable> Vladimir_, so key based authentication is enabled and if you put you key (using ssh-copy-id or another method) from client to server authorized_keys it will work
[10:51] <Vladimir_> iptable: it's not a server it's a network device, a switch that ssh to
[10:51] <iptable> Vladimir_, it is the basic easiest task. Make sure you run it on CLIENT. You need to copy key from the client that will do the ssh to the server that will accept the connection. so ssh-copy-id should be run on client.
[10:52] <Vladimir_> oh oke3
[10:52] <iptable> :/
[10:52] <Vladimir_> iptable: oh I didn't understand that it should be on the client
[10:53] <odin> hi, I have a problem with UBUNTU not booting. The motherboard gets past boot and even past GRUB, but at some point through the boot process it just hangs
[10:53] <odin> then eventually restarts, what could this be?
[10:54] <rainbowwarrior> hmm
[10:55] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Booting in legacy, I got a black screen with a blinking " _ " on the top left of my screen, When i pressed enter, I was taken to ubuntu
[10:55] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> In UEFI, Straight to windows
[10:55] <user123321> back
[10:56] <knightshade> Hi
[10:57] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Are lenovo laptops famous for trouble with linux?
[10:58] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : how long does it take for debootstrap to unacpack required packages please ?
[10:58] <rainbowwarrior> unpack *
[10:59] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> rainbowwarrior , Idk about that debootstrap, But if it's unpacking as in extracting, That depends on your PC specs
[11:00] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> If it's downloading, That depends on your interderps speed
[11:00] <knightshade> Interderp?
[11:00] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Internet*
[11:03] <Vladimir_> iptable: can I have multiple public keys in the /etc/ssh/ folder? How will it know which one to use? When accessing the client?
[11:05] <rainbowwarrior> ExtremeDerpAndSo : My laptop is an Acer Aspire V5 571P With an intel I7-3537U CPU and 8GB memory , Intel VGA compatible controller (can't remember exactly what ) and 80 MB broadband connection
[11:07] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> rainbowwarrior , It should be over soon then i guess ;p
[11:09] <rainbowwarrior> ExtremeDerpAndSo : lol , Merry Christmas :P
[11:09] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> ;P;
[11:09] <ddv> rainbowwarrior: acer is pretty crappy
[11:11] <rainbowwarrior> well I am stuck with it now as I got rid of horrible windows 8 and its evil charms etc
[11:11] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> ddv , My previous acer laptop had no problems taking dual boot xD
[11:11] <rainbowwarrior> as i bought it in october last year
[11:11] <SimonJai> what could cause GRUB to break after upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04 by running "do-release-upgrade" ?
[11:11] <ddv> not sure why you would want to dual boot anyways, it's only annoying
[11:11] <blinky_ghost> t
[11:12] <iptable> Vladimir_, it will try roundrobin
[11:12] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> ddv, I still need windows for windows only applications
[11:12] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Like Spice
[11:12] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Which is a circuit simulator .-.
[11:12] <iptable> Vladimir_, or you can give ssh an option parameter. man ssh to find out.
[11:12] <rainbowwarrior> ExtremeDerpAndSo : well just done a speed test and my download speed is 19.33 MBPS and upload speed is 12.26 MBPS
[11:12] <ddv> Etry a vm
[11:13] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, how long? between 10 minutes and 2 hours. depends on network speed and computer speed.
[11:18] <TurkerTunali> hello,
[11:18] <TurkerTunali> I have a installation problem
[11:18] <TurkerTunali> http://pastebin.com/gK0xBUPN
[11:18] <TurkerTunali> can you check it?
[11:18] <TurkerTunali> I may paste it here if you prefer
[11:19] <ikonia> TurkerTunali: my first thought is your install media is broken
[11:19] <ikonia> it's complaining of concatinated data
[11:20] <TurkerTunali> ikonia: I've already used that usb before and "Check disc for defects" not found any error
[11:20] <ikonia> TurkerTunali: that doesn't mean it's sane
[11:21] <ikonia> TurkerTunali: is it a liveusb ?
[11:21] <tarelerulz> Can any of you watched blue ray dvd Ubuntu?
[11:21] <ikonia> tarelerulz: yes, but it was a lot of effort due to the license of the software
[11:21] <Vladimir_> iptable: by the way, I got a really good tip for the timestamp issue, I can just do:  < find /katalog/i/ditt/filträd -cmin 10 -exec mv {} {}$(date "+%Y-%m-%d_%H-%M") >  inside of a while loop =)
[11:21] <TurkerTunali> ikonia: yes it is live
[11:22] <ikonia> TurkerTunali: can you boot it at all
[11:22] <TurkerTunali> I can't boot
[11:22] <TurkerTunali> try ubuntu and Install ubuntu fails the same way
[11:22] <Vladimir_> iptable: /katalog/i/ditt/filträd  being the directory you need to check
[11:22] <tarelerulz> Vladimir_:  Have you ever watched a blue ray?
[11:23] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Cats are not happy after a bath.
[11:23] <Vladimir_> tarelerulz: once or twice
[11:23] <ikonia> tarelerulz: please don't just ask random people
[11:23] <ikonia> ExtremeDerpAndSo: wrong channel, not here please.
[11:23] <backupneeded> Hi everyone, i want to do a backup to an external harddrive, over the commandline interface, but i want to be able to access the backups also on windows plattform (best with gui for standard users), is there a backup tools that i could use on ubuntu commandline to create backups and a compatible gui tool on windows to access the backups data files?
[11:24] <TurkerTunali> ikonia: there are some more errors at the begining, such as no media found and etc
[11:24] <TurkerTunali> ikonia: i may give detail
[11:24] <rainbowwarrior> iptable :ok thank you
[11:24] <TurkerTunali> i can boot to win7
[11:24] <ikonia> b	enterprise tools such as legato work
[11:24] <hateball> backupneeded: define "backup". is it copying files? compressing entire partitions? etc
[11:25] <ikonia> TurkerTunali: that sounds like your install media is not good
[11:26] <rainbowwarrior> Omg
[11:26] <tarelerulz> I have read on playing on blue rays and I have yet to find a guide if you will .   All the stuff tell you you need these file ,but never where to find them or even what to do with the files once you do .  I'm not asking random quotations , I was trying to see if any of you do watch blue ray .  I wanted to know what you did to make work
[11:26] <TurkerTunali> ikonia:should I download it again?
[11:26] <ikonia> TurkerTunali: I'd certainly try re-creating the install media
[11:26] <TurkerTunali> ok
[11:27] <backupneeded> hateball: there a serveral files within folders on a harddrive, it will be good if the backup is compressed somehow and if the backup should do full backups and backups from changed files only, too
[11:28] <TurkerTunali> ikonia: I have used Universal-USB-Installer-<IP_ADDRESS>.exe before and now I am creating media as before, thank you
[11:28] <ikonia> TurkerTunali: I've not used that tool, so can't comment
[11:28] <rainbowwarrior> I just done a check for interference in my neighbourhood and it says " Quality=54/70  Signal level=-56 dBm " and " Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s "
[11:29] <TurkerTunali> ikonia: you may right. windows says that usb should be scanned for errrors
[11:29] <cfhowlett> TurkerTunali, windows says that when it sees ubuntu ...
[11:30] <iptable> Vladimir_, the while loop thing sounds like a very bad workaround, together with find files created max 10 minutes ago trhing...
[11:30] <iptable> but ok
[11:30] <iptable> whatever works for you...
[11:31] <TurkerTunali> cfhowlett: no it doesn't say that before
[11:31] <Vladimir_> Well hopefully it works=) iptable
[11:31] <Yukiz> there is a moderator ?
[11:31] <ikonia> Yukiz: what's up ?
[11:31] <Yukiz> here ?
[11:32] <cfhowlett> Yukiz, ask your ubuntu questions
[11:33] <Yukiz> there is a moderator here ?
[11:34] <Vladimir_> iptable: about the ssh, I did send the key to the ssh server, and the key is inside the /etc/ssh/ folder but still it asks for the password, it doesn't seem like it's even finds any key but I don't know
[11:35] <EriC^^> Vladimir_: you can use ssh -v (or -vv, -vvv) for more info
[11:35] <Vladimir_> EriC^^: ok
[11:36] <Vladimir_> EriC^^: Well, it doesn't say much, just Authentication succeeded (password).
[11:37] <Vladimir_> it doesn't say anything about the public key o any key at all
[11:37] <EriC^^> Vladimir_: did you try -vvv ?
[11:37] <EriC^^> should mention searching for stuff
[11:38] <iptable> Vladimir_, why do you ssh to a switch anyways?
[11:38] <davecap99> hey guys I'm new here, just saying hello
[11:40] <Vladimir_> I have to ssh to the switch to be able to backup the configuration, I know there's some way to get the config via scp  but I just do it with the expect script for now
[11:40] <Vladimir_> iptable:
[11:40] <Vladimir_> iptable: we are changing from telnet to ssh
[11:40] <iptable> Vladimir_, nevermind, I don't want to know. Do you even have a pubkey? I have a feeling it didn't copy as it doesn't exist.
[11:40] <iptable> Vladimir_, ssh-genkey?
[11:40] <Vladimir_> iptable: it did copy,
[11:41] <ikonia> why are we supporting network switch backups
[11:41] <ikonia> this has been going on for 5 days now
[11:41] <iptable> are you using ssh to same USER as you copied key to?
[11:41] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : I just done a check for interference in my neighbourhood and it says " Quality=54/70  Signal level=-56 dBm " and " Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s "  and I have an Acer aspire v5 571p with 8gb Memory and an I7 CPU and 80mb internet connection ( current download speed 19mbps )
[11:41] <ikonia> I think we are getting beyond the scope of ubuntu here
[11:41] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, why you telling me?
[11:41] <Vladimir_> I created a key on the switch and I sent to with tftp to the server iptable
[11:41] <iptable> Vladimir_, wait, you are ssh'ing from switch to server?
[11:42] <Vladimir_> iptable: no, I sent with tftp method
[11:42] <iptable> ...
[11:42] <ikonia> Vladimir_: this is making no sense
[11:42] <ikonia> Vladimir_: I've watched you do this for 5 days now
[11:42] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : oh sorry , I think it is my network running slow and that why it is still unpacking the packages
[11:42] <iptable> Vladimir_, plain English, if you are trying to ssh from server to switch, first ssh-genkey ON SERVER, then ssh-copy-id user@switch ON SERVER. This will copy key from server to switch
[11:42] <ikonia> Vladimir_: what part of the solution is ubuntu releated to ?
[11:43] <ikonia> iptable: it's a procurve - iit won't work like that
[11:43] <iptable> oh, procurve...
[11:43] <Vladimir_> iptable: but that's the way I did it in the first place as you told me, but later you said that I should copy key from Client TO server :/ and that's what I've done now
[11:43] <ikonia> Vladimir_: this is a Procurve switch isn't it (?)
[11:43] <Vladimir_> ikonia: yeah procurve
[11:43] <ikonia> iptable: ok - so this is just all not going to work
[11:43] <iptable> Vladimir_, https://blog.espci.fr/jpuig/2011/07/21/public-key-only-ssh-access-to-procurve-2510g-tested-on-2510g-24-software-y-11-12-rom-n-10-02/
[11:44] <iptable> ikonia, it will, it just requires stupid commands to enable it
[11:44] <ikonia> Vladimir_: what part of this solution do you need help with ubuntu from
[11:44] <ikonia> iptable: sure - but for #ubuntu
[11:44] <oksefars> hey all i'm using ubuntu 12.04x64 on a server and suddenly the server has stopped booting and grub gives me an error 15 file not found, does anybody know what this is about?
[11:44] <iptable> Vladimir_, do you know what client and server is? you obviously don't. copy from client to server MEANS copy from machine you are ssh'ing to the machine you are ssh'ing TO
[11:44] <ikonia> I've watched blind configuration of this switch for 5 days now. We are well outside what #ubuntu is supposed to be used for
[11:44] <iptable> Vladimir_, client-server. standard IT terms. Ok, enough
[11:45] <TurkerTunali> ikonia: you were right, it is working now
[11:45] <ikonia> TurkerTunali: great news
[11:46] <cfhowlett> !cookie | ikonia,
[11:47] <rainbowwarrior> ExtremeDerpAndSo : Happy New Year lol , i must have the worlds slowest network
[11:48] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, it does take time. but once you are done, then umount the proc, dev, sysfs and cp -a /mnt/sys01 /mnt/sys02. Then you will have a quickly made duplicate and 2 systems to play with
[11:49] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, I usually keep one of them as a template to copy from
[11:49] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, forgot to ask you, what host are you using? also, what is the purpose of debootstrap in your case?
[11:51] <Vladimir_> iptable: well it doesn't seem to get passwordless working, because it works if I turn off RADIUS login on the switch but we all use RADIUS login here, so :..:/
[11:52] <ikonia> Vladimir_: stop for a moment
[11:52] <ikonia> Vladimir_: what part of this do you need ubuntu help with ?
[11:52] <Vladimir_> ikonia: I try to get passwordless ssh login to work from my ubuntu server to the switch
[11:52] <iptable> Vladimir_, unless it's a ubuntu-specific problem I suggest you speak either on ##networking or ##linux. This is not an ubuntu issue but the issue with your network, logins and switch
[11:52] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : Ok Thank you , I am with Sky broadband , I am using debootstrap so I can hopefully get into Ubuntu and try and get 14.04 to work with my Aoc monitor as 13.10 does not seem to like it and it hangs at log-in and can not login via terminal or gui login screen
[11:53] <Vladimir_> ikonia: sorry, this seems like an issue for both ubuntu and switch :/
[11:53] <ikonia> Vladimir_: what part of it is an ubuntu issue ?
[11:53] <Vladimir_> iptable: no worries
[11:53] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, GUI in debootstrap? that's not going to go down too well
[11:54] <Vladimir_> ikonia: ssh login, I was recommended to use ssh passwordless login instead of expect script
[11:54] <ikonia> Vladimir_: you're not logging into the ubuntu machine though
[11:54] <Vladimir_> ikonia: anyhow don't worry, I'll figure this out
[11:54] <ikonia> Vladimir_: ubuntu is only the client
[11:54] <ikonia> Vladimir_: I think we need to stop supporting your switch ocnfig/setup here
[11:54] <iptable> Vladimir_, refer to your networks team and authentication team. also refer to your radius team. also refer to switch manual.
[11:54] <Vladimir_> yeah no probs=)
[11:55] <Vladimir_> thanks
[11:55] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, I would suggest instead you try it with a live USB stick
[11:55] <Nagendra> hi
[11:56] <nozen> Hey guys. One of the mirrors I use contains some packages that are also on the official trusty mirror, the packages on the third party mirror are of the same version but an older build. Is there a way to tell apt to prefer packages from the third party repository even though they are older ?
[11:56] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, or at least install ubuntu onto a USB drive and boot from that
[11:57] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, GUI from debootstrap can be SO flakey due to the /proc and /dev and /sys you are running belonging to the host (and a few other libc dependencies that are involved onthe host)
[11:57] <oksefars> hey i am running ubuntu on a server and it seems like grub.cfg has been overwritten
[11:57] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : Ahh ok thank you
[11:58] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, although "monitor" issue oculd be a graphic card issue instead. more than happy to have a look once you boot from something into 14.04
[11:59] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : ok thank you very much , it is much appreciated and your time
[11:59] <iptable> no problem
[12:01] <Elion> hello, i'm trying to run a script when a bluetooth device connect, how can i tell udev to run the script
[12:05] <rainbowwarrior> i like fat woman
[12:06] <dmatt> nozen: configure apt via /etc/apt/preferences i just read documentation, but never used it myself
[12:06] <rainbowwarrior> sorry about that my brother typed that in while i went away for a minute
[12:07] <SimonJai_> I upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 LTS, after install I rebooted and it went straight into Grub console
[12:07] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : did you mean like a USB flash drive or USB hard drive ?
[12:07] <SimonJai_> any ideas?
[12:07] <riot> ahoy. So, network manager only places additional dns servers into resolv.conf that it can reach, yes? why? how can i give it one it should ALWAYS enter..?
[12:08] <riot> getting classic config based openvpn to work with NM is PITA deluxe.
[12:08] <EriC^^> SimonJai_: try to reinstall grub, update-grub
[12:08] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, any
[12:08] <SimonJai_> i can't get back into the OS?
[12:08] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, although USB hard drive WILL be much faster than flash drive
[12:08] <EriC^^> SimonJai_: you probably can, but if you have a live usb would be easy
[12:09] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : ok thank you
[12:09] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, your brother is in his "time to grow up" age I see
[12:09] <SimonJai_> oh wow
[12:09] <SimonJai_> i managed to boot into the OS
[12:09] <SimonJai_> lol
[12:09] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : yep
[12:09] <SimonJai_> EriC^^: do i reinstall grub on the root partition?
[12:09] <EriC^^> SimonJai_: on the disk
[12:09] <SimonJai_> the whole disk?
[12:10] <SimonJai_> mmmmm
[12:10] <EriC^^> yeah
[12:10] <riot> and why is network manager adding <IP_ADDRESS> to my resolv.conf? is it drunk?
[12:10] <SimonJai_> as in update-grub /dev/sda ???
[12:10] <EriC^^> if that's your disk yeah
[12:10] <SimonJai_> yep it is
[12:10] <SimonJai_> alright i'll give that a go, thanks
[12:10] <EriC^^> np
[12:10]  * SimonJai_ hopes it works
[12:13] <SimonJai_> EriC^^: update-grub or update-grub2 ??
[12:13] <EriC^^> update-grub , same i think
[12:14] <mregg> Hi all - Anybody knows whether the AST2300 graphics chip is compatible with Ubuntu 14.04? Thanks.
[12:15] <qwerkus> hello
[12:15] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : Ok I will be back soon , going to buy a usb drive :o)
[12:16] <ikonia> mregg: is that the onboard arm one ?
[12:16] <qwerkus> I get random complete freeze of my desktop (not even tty fallback possible) under ubuntu 14.04 using nvidia 340 drivers. Could somehow help me find out what exactly the problem is ?
[12:17] <mregg> ikonia: onboard a C224-based mobo, am currently building a server.
[12:17] <ikonia> mregg: who makes that chip (sorry I thought it was an arm one)
[12:17] <mregg> ikonia: Aspeed
[12:18] <ikonia> mregg: that's a remote access card
[12:18] <ikonia> mregg: not a graphics card
[12:18] <mregg> ikonia: no no, it's the integrated graphics card. Am looking at the Gigabyte GA-LXSV, that's what it says.
[12:19] <vak> hi all
[12:19] <ikonia> mregg: then "no" it won't have good X support
[12:19] <ikonia> mregg: although if it's a server, all you need is the tty console ?
[12:19] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, that's what I like in people from UK, we just go and buy the stuff :P
[12:19] <riot> i have to say, ubuntu's way of doing network is really very scary, sinister and unnecessarily complex.
[12:19] <mregg> ikonia: no, I want to be able to freenx or x2go to the server
[12:20] <vak> i use  "apt-get source --compile" to compile a huge package. Is it possible to pass "-j N" option to the make utility?
[12:20] <trexx> I'm getting this error "no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory" any solution ?
[12:20] <ikonia> mregg: I wouldn't advise that then
[12:20] <ikonia> trexx: impossible to help with that little info
[12:22] <trexx> ikonia: wheneva i'm using "sudo" command the error will be shown.
[12:22] <kudakwashe> is unity a window manager?
[12:22] <kudakwashe> can you call unity a window manager?
[12:23] <EriC^^> no, unity is a de
[12:23] <kudakwashe> or does it uses metacity?
[12:23] <EriC^^> compiz is the window mananger
[12:23] <ikonia> trexx: so id you do "sudo ls" do you get that error ?
[12:23] <kudakwashe> compiz, not metacity, by default in 14.04?
[12:23] <kudakwashe> EriC^^: ?
[12:24] <EriC^^> kudakwashe: unity is a desktop environment, compiz is the window manager it uses
[12:24] <kudakwashe> EriC^^: thanks
[12:24] <trexx> I've solve it at my own.
[12:24] <EriC^^> np
[12:25] <trexx> ikonia: libpass-samba package was created problem.
[12:25] <ikonia> great
[12:25] <rtur> dmatt: (I'm nozen) Yes, I did that. Doesn't show any effect though. Here is my preference file http://paste.ubuntu.com/8223155/
[12:26] <dmatt> rtur: you must run apt-get update before it is taken into account
[12:27] <dmatt> rtur: apt-cache policy name_of_the_package to investigate how it affected chosen package
[12:28] <rtur> dmatt: I know, I did. But apt-cache policy package-name still shows the ubuntu mirror as origin.
[12:31] <blackangelpr> Salute to all :)
[12:36] <Ziber> I'm trying to understand how logrotate works. I have http://pastebin.com/kSVmGb9r in my logrotate.d file, but the actual behavior of this (http://pastebin.com/M3XDN48K) is not what I want. What I want it to do is to keep 30 days of the log files, rotating it once per day, appending -YYYYMMDD to the old file. I don't know why it's doing -YYYYMMDD-YYYYMMDD, etc.
[12:40] <lyzgg> mn m
[12:40] <iptable> Ziber, I know ;) you are rotating the rotated logs already
[12:40] <iptable> Ziber, /root/scripts/log/snap* will capture already rotated logs and rotate them again
[12:41] <rtur> dmatt: Oh, forget it. It was just me being dumb, apt works. Thanks.
[12:41] <iptable> Ziber, replace with definite value which does not capture rotated log filenames as well, e.g. /root/scripts/log/snap_expire.log, without the star
[12:42] <dmatt> rtur: glad you resolved it
[12:48] <adante> hi, i have run this command: DISPLAY=:0 gsettings set org.gnome.Vino require-encryption false
[12:48] <adante> nothing has happened - how can i check if it has applied?
[12:51] <Azitrex> i installed ubuntu but i dont see where is terminal ?
[12:51] <Azitrex> ubunut 14
[12:52] <iptable> adante, well, if it didn't complain then it probably worked. although gsettings have a get option to see the settings
[12:52] <iptable> adante, man gsettings said so
[12:52] <SimonJai_> "grub-install: warning: this msdos-style partition label has no post-MBR gap; embedding won't be possible."
[12:52] <SimonJai_> uhhhhh what to do?
[12:52] <iptable> adante, as per the gsettings manual, line number 3: DISPLAY=:0 gsettings get org.gnome.Vino require-encryption
[12:53] <dav1dp0101> Does anyone have a good suggestion for making regular scheduled dumps of my entire system image via the dump command on crontab?
[12:54] <adante> iptable: thanks!
[12:57] <iptable> dav1dp0101, yes, don't do it
[12:58] <iptable> dav1dp0101, it is an ext2 dump/restore. their manuals and docs don't state that it can even do ext3/4 or other filesystems. use a proper backup solution or your own one
[12:59] <dav1dp0101> iptable: thanks. What about the dd command?
[12:59] <iptable> dav1dp0101, typically, I would suggest you dump the MBR using dd and either in offline mode dump partitions OR in online mode use rsync (or equivalent) or tar
[13:00] <iptable> dav1dp0101, dd in online mode can result in a corrupt filesystem backup. dd in offline mode won't. I suggest dd only MBR (can be done at any time) and rsync/tar if online. if offline mode (i.e. system unmounted), you can use dd
[13:00] <dav1dp0101> iptable: what do you mean: dd only MBR?
[13:01] <cfhowlett> iptable, "online" = mounted or actually on internet.  I don't understand why?
[13:01] <iptable> dav1dp0101, if ytou plan on restoring to another HDD, you will need the MBR to boot
[13:01] <iptable> cfhowlett, online = mounted. offline = unmounted
[13:01] <iptable> cfhowlett, if you dd a drive that is mounted, file change written to fs and at the moment of dd may differ.
[13:02] <iptable> dav1dp0101, MBR has the code to actually boot your OS. alternatively, your recovery procedure could be 1. boot from livecd 2. partition drive, 3. recover backup, 4. while still in liveCD, chroot to recovered partition nad run grub-install /dev/sda. this would work and no dd backup of MBR required
[13:02] <iptable> dav1dp0101, that would actually be preferred unless you know what you are doing with MBRs
[13:03] <iptable> dav1dp0101, on backup methods and software to choose from, why not have a look at ubuntu community documentation? very good it is. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[13:04] <dav1dp0101> iptable: My server is always online and mounted, so i have to come up with a solution that works in that environment. I want more than one backup/restore procedure. I have a 500MB mounted hard drive, and a 1 TB external hard drive partitioned into two. I'm already using rsync to backup the files onto an external partition. I wanted to use the other partition for system images. hence dump (or dd). I've looked at the link you menti
[13:04] <dav1dp0101> oned above, which suggested using dump for raw backups.
[13:04] <iptable> dav1dp0101, I use btrfs filesystem instead of ext3/4 and perform backups by first making a snapshot and then I rsync the snapshot over to the remote machine which also has btrfs and root filesystem. recovery is as simple as restoring snapshot on backup machine
[13:05] <dav1dp0101> iptable how do you make snapshots?
[13:05] <iptable> dav1dp0101, only if you use ext2...
[13:05] <iptable> dav1dp0101, on btrfs filesystem, I type in btrfs snapshot create /
[13:05] <iptable> dav1dp0101, LVM also supports snapshots
[13:05] <iptable> dav1dp0101, although, if you rsync the whole system, why would you want a raw image?
[13:05] <Tots> In xubuntu, where's the startup file where I can execute commands upon startup?
[13:06] <iptable> dav1dp0101, restore to new drive partition and run grub-install and you are back online
[13:06] <Tots> unless after configuring x11vnc, it's handled automatically
[13:06] <iptable> Tots, upon startup of system, GUI or upon login to GUI?
[13:06] <Tots> Preferably startup of GUI without logging in
[13:06] <dav1dp0101> iptable: i'm using rsync on the root folder. i want a raw image as an alternative method of backing up. Two backups is safer than one.
[13:06] <iptable> Tots, startup of actual system, before GUI boots is either /etc/init/* or /etc/init.d/* (both work, pick one).
[13:07] <Tots> Thank you much :)
[13:07] <iptable> Tots, that needs the correct format of a script though, look at what is there already
[13:07] <iptable> dav1dp0101, raw image is not a safe method. just rsync to 2 locations
[13:08] <iptable> dav1dp0101, if you want a raw image you HAVE TO take your system offline
[13:08] <ValdikSS> Hello. I have a strange problem with my keyboard. I have Logitech K200 USB keyboard, and multimedia keys are working with some kind of delay. I can't press, for example, volume down 5 times a second, it simply won't work. Everything is fine in Windows.
[13:08] <ValdikSS> evdev detects my keyboard as 2 separate keyboards. One is "usual" keyboard and another one is with multimedia keys only.
[13:08] <ValdikSS> "high-level" utilites like xev and showkey doesn't detect all the keypresses, even evtest, which works on device level (/dev/input/event*) doesn't detect it. What should I do?
[13:08] <Tots> can I modify rc.local in init.d with the line I want to add?
[13:09] <iptable> Tots, apparently yes :)
[13:09] <Tots> It'd just be a simple: x11vnc -safe -forever
[13:09] <dav1dp0101> iptable: oh, I see. I'm using ext4, so can I run the snapshot create command you mentioned above?
[13:09] <iptable> Tots, can x11vnc start before the GUI loads? if so, then yes. put it in rc.local
[13:09] <iptable> Tots, otherwise, you would need something much more intelligent
[13:10] <iptable> dav1dp0101, no. that's btrfs only.
[13:10] <iptable> dav1dp0101, if you have LVM, then that support snapshots too, although I don't know how well you can backup those
[13:11] <iptable> dav1dp0101, but scrap that. use rsync and liveUSB to recover. boot from liveUSB, mount the partition to which you recover, chroot to it, grub-install to the MBR you are done!
[13:11] <iptable> dav1dp0101, and you should at least be using raid1
[13:11] <chamo> hi all
[13:12] <Doctor_Nick> oh no
[13:12] <Doctor_Nick> borderlands twooo
[13:12] <cfhowlett> Doctor_Nick, ask your ubuntu questions
[13:13] <Doctor_Nick> is the plural of ubuntu ubuntus
[13:14] <dav1dp0101> iptable: no i didn't install LVM. I had the option to, but I thought it would be unnecessarily complicated. ok, i see your suggestion is sound. So in your recovery scenario, am I copying my backed up root folder to the internal hard drive? That's what I want to do. If it was corrupt, I would format the hard drive, run a fresh install of the OS, and the copy the backed up root folder into the new root folder.
[13:14] <cfhowlett> Doctor_Nick, good question for #ubuntu-offtopic.  Please discuss there.
[13:14] <dav1dp0101> I didn't use RAID1. My hard drive is only 500MB. If I used RAID1, would that reduce my hard drive space by half?
[13:15] <ikonia> do you mean 500GB?
[13:15] <Tots> That's not working >.<
[13:15] <dav1dp0101> Yeah, iptable & ikonia, i meant 500MB hard drive.
[13:15] <ikonia> raid is between 2 devices, so it won't reduce your hard drive space, it will just waste the second disk as a mirror
[13:15] <Tots> I'm trying to use x11vnc and I set a password, then I'm trying to run it just in terminal and it's not holding
[13:15] <dav1dp0101> iptable, ikonia, 500GB.
[13:15] <ikonia> so the second disk won't have usable space
[13:16] <Tots> but now, I can't even get into it via VNC for some reason, port forwarding isn't an issue
[13:16] <dav1dp0101> ikonia: can I run RAID1 on an external hard drive?
[13:16] <iptable> dav1dp0101, to use raid1, you need 2 drives. and both act as a single drive, having copy of data between each other
[13:16] <ikonia> dav1dp0101: I'd advise against it
[13:16] <iptable> dav1dp0101, so you need 2x500MB (2 drives at 500MB each) and you will have 500MB of space in raid1, but any drive can crash and it will work
[13:17] <Musa845> i am using ubuntu with one NIC card and I want to share internet on LAN. I have a hub on LAN with some PCs. any help for this?
[13:17] <iptable> dav1dp0101, so on a server, use RAID1 and backup to external location/drive using RSYNC. that is very stable backup assuming office doesn't catch fire
[13:17] <Tots> in modifying /etc/rc.local, you put the command before exit 0, yes?
[13:18] <iptable> Tots, yes
[13:18] <dav1dp0101> iptable , ikonia: but i worry that if there is a problem with a corrupt device, then it will be a problem on both devices (raid0 ad raid1) since they are mirrors of each other.
[13:18] <Tots> Things don't seem to want to play
[13:18] <ikonia> dav1dp0101: it doesn't work like that
[13:19] <iptable> dav1dp0101, no, raid1 mirrors data, not device corruption. raid1 protects you from physical fault with hard drives. backup will protect you in case you remove your OS, blow up your machine, or for example loose all data due to filesystem corruption on both disks.
[13:20] <iptable> dav1dp0101, so, raid1 is needed for servers, really. I have had a drive fail once in a while in my servers. you just swap it, make the dmraid remirror and you are up and running
[13:20] <dav1dp0101> ikonia: why not? Any software bug or error on disk will be on RAID0 and RAID1. Also, I only have one device with a CPU (and 500GB disk space) plus one external HDD (1 TB size). So i don't think i'm set up for RAID1. Why can't I run RAID1 on an external HDD?
[13:20] <iptable> dav1dp0101, well, you were still running and loss of HDD in raid1 means you are still online. even during remirror
[13:20] <Tots> iptable: you wouldn't happen to know anything about x11vnc, would you? I'm just trying to get it to execute the server every time the computer starts so I can get into it remotely.  NEVER had anyone say it crashed
[13:21] <Tots> But I've got x11vnc -forever -usepw  in before exit 0 in rc.local but it does not seem to want to execute that line or it's executing it before something is not ready and that's ending it. I need it to execute before the computer logs in
[13:21] <dav1dp0101> iptable: it looks like I can't use RAID1 without sacrificing half my disk space (500GB) which is not an option. RAID1 requires another device, right?
[13:21] <iptable> dav1dp0101, sounds like your setup is not server-ready. usb drives are slow as well. use rsync to backup, that IS the solution. you cannot create raw images of online filesystem. your backup will be corrupt.
[13:22] <iptable> dav1dp0101, yes, RAID1 = 2 devices. you will have space of one device, the other acts as a mirror
[13:22] <iptable> dav1dp0101, that server is not fit for purpose. considered buying a HP Microserver N40L for example? 100GBP and 4 drive slots, 2 core CPU and 2 GB of RAM
[13:22] <iptable> dav1dp0101, anyways, that's another subject.
[13:24] <iptable> dav1dp0101, now read on about how RAID1 works, vs RAID0 which you quoted (which is NOT redundancy and you loose 1 dirve you loose all data on RAID0). read also on the link I have given you and investigate the different file-level backup solutions present.
[13:25] <dav1dp0101> iptable: well we don't have the budget to buy another device like the HP Microserver. We're stuck with what we have. Although maybe we could upgrade our internal HD to 1 TB. But that won't give us RAID1.
[13:26] <dav1dp0101> iptable: I'll use rsync to backup the root folder to two separate partitions on the external HDD.
[13:26] <dav1dp0101> iptable: I think that's about all I can do in terms of backing up my server.
[13:27] <iptable> dav1dp0101, *we* don't have *budget* for 100 GBP? what company is that?
[13:29] <dav1dp0101> iptable: a small campus/community radio station. This whole server upgrade is grant funded by the government.
[13:29] <cfhowlett> dav1dp0101, sell some cookies!  100 gb for secure backup is not a luxury, it's a basic need.
[13:31] <dav1dp0101>  cfhowlett: What do you mean 100 GB? for RAID1 I need the same size disk on the device, 500 GB.
[13:31] <iptable> that's under 200USD. you could make that much by fixing a computer for a few neighbours I'm sure.
[13:32] <iptable> dav1dp0101, 100GBP, great-british-pound. It's a currency
[13:32] <iptable> dav1dp0101, instead, if you have such problems, why not sell the server on eBay and go with the cloud? virtual hosting is dirt cheap nowadays and gives you more power for less price.
[13:32] <cfhowlett> iptable, doh!  sorry dav1dp0101 .  I saw gb not gpb.  foot insert mouth syndrome.
[13:33] <iptable> dav1dp0101, instead, if you have such problems, why not sell the server on eBay and go with the cloud? virtual hosting is dirt cheap nowadays and gives you more power for less price.
[13:33] <iptable> cfhowlett, wouldn't you agree on that one? ^
[13:33] <dav1dp0101> iptable: no I need an additional device, which is more like 500$ CAD (canadian dollars). I'll talk to the project manager, but let's just say the chances are highly slim.
[13:33] <Tots> omg, why is this so complicated and why can't I do it >.<
[13:34] <cfhowlett> iptable, setting up a could sounds like an option.  Didn't/doesn't Amazon give away a free cloud hosting package of some sort?
[13:34] <ddv> Tots: because of pebcak
[13:34] <ddv> :-)
[13:34] <Tots> I made a config file in etc/init/  told it to start the prgoram, and still no-go. :/ I just want to run a freaking vnc server for the server
[13:34] <Tots> It just doesn't seem to want to start
[13:35] <iptable> Tots, and rc.local?
[13:35] <Tots> iptable, I tried rc.local with the same command and args. Still nothing
[13:35] <ddv> does Ubuntu still use upstart? with systemd it's easy to set that up, did you chmod +x the file?
[13:35] <Tots> I think since the program never returns, that rc.local never gets to exit 0
[13:35] <iptable> cfhowlett, yes it does. and a lot of companies will charge something silly like 20USB/15GBP per month for a nice server spec. dav1dp0101 why is that a problem?
[13:36] <iptable> Tots, in rc.local try to run the app with & character to background it
[13:36] <ddv> 20 usb sticks, iptable?
[13:36] <iptable> USD
[13:36] <Tots> iptable, the app when run in terminal with an & will not continue on
[13:36] <iptable> you see I type USB miuch more :D
[13:36] <Tots> it won't run multiple
[13:37] <iptable> Tots, 1. disable the GUI (actually go to terminal turn it off with /etc/init.d/whatever-dm stop), 2. try x11vnc and see what happens
[13:37] <iptable> Tots, my guess is that you need the GUI working before starting x11vnc, which is a bitr of a problem then
[13:37] <Tots> it's a GUI application that forwards x11. Where is x11's config again? Can't I just attach to that?
[13:38] <Tots> That way, x11 WILL start, and THEN I can execute it
[13:38] <iptable> Tots, no idea sorry. there is a config file somewhere, just unsure where
[13:39] <iptable> Tots, on login is much easier, as after login scripts can be executed with "startup" option in ubuntu
[13:39] <cfhowlett> dav1dp0101, clearly you know your issue parameters better than I do, but storage, especially cloud based, is approaching the point of inconsequential cost.  Balanced against the benefits of backup/recovery, I wonder if a funding proposal might be worth considering.
[13:39] <Tots> it's a server, I need to be able to vnc into the box when it reboots, regardless
[13:40] <ddv> Tots: why does a server need a gui?
[13:40] <rainbowwarrior> topic
[13:40] <rainbowwarrior> oops
[13:40] <gp5st> hello. I just did an apt-get update and it upgraded firefox to ff 32.  This isn't compatible with selenium and I need to downgrade. Is there a clean way todo that with apt? Or do I need to grab a deb and install it by hand?
[13:41] <cfhowlett> gp5st, I dist-upgraded and I'm still on ff 31. Did you enable "proposed" repos or something?
[13:42] <dav1dp0101> cfhowlett, iptable: I don't disagree that backup/recovery is of primary importance. For some reason I thought I could take snapshots and use rsync on my server and not need a second device. That was my mistake. But now that we've got this equipment, I've got to make do with them. A monthly fee is i out of the question, i think. The reason I didn't choose to do RAID1 is that I've heard bad things about it. And my limited experienc
[13:42] <dav1dp0101> e has been that when RAID0 crashes, RAID1 crashes too (that was in a previous workplace with a different sysadmin).
[13:42] <Phil_fl> xit
[13:43] <gp5st> cfhowlett: I shouldn't have.  This was set up by IT at my office (to my shagrin) and they
[13:43] <iptable> dav1dp0101, raid0 is totally different to raid1, so no, your experience is wrong
[13:43] <gp5st> 're ussally conservative about stuff like that
[13:43] <Tots> Dang, I even tried writing the command to /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc and still nothing.
[13:44] <dav1dp0101> iptable: no I mean when using RAID1, when the main device crashed, the mirror crashed too.  RAID1 or RAID6, depending on HDD number and use scenario.
[13:45] <dav1dp0101> iptable: I understand the idea. I'm saying that's not what happened previously. Both drives went down.
[13:45] <iptable> dav1dp0101, nope, that's impossible from raid perspective
[13:45] <superkuh> Weird. I just updated to 14.04. Now any OpenGl application will cause minor screen corruption in the form of black squares overlaying other positions on the screen.
[13:46] <iptable> dav1dp0101, either the story is a lie from someone who didn't know jack, OR possibly both were from a faulty batch from the same manufacturing line and both died on the same day. that IS possible and did happen on a number of occasions
[13:46] <cfhowlett> gp5st, I do daily updates/dist-upgrades.   I don't understand how you've got 31.  anyway, the only way I know to regress would be with a .deb
[13:47] <cfhowlett> superkuh, might need to tweak your graphic driver or settings
[13:47] <AtuM> dav1dp0101, do you use hardware raid1?
[13:47] <dav1dp0101> iptable: besides, RAID1 provides redundancy, but it's not a backup.
[13:47] <superkuh> I suppose so. It'll probably break all my OpenCl stuff but time for another driver reinstall.
[13:49] <dav1dp0101> AtuM: no hardware raid1.
[13:49] <AtuM> davidcalle, what you're describing is what happened to me when I used mdraid for raid1 and the first drive went down - after reboot it did not boot since there was no grub on the surviving drive. this happens a lot with default installations ;-)
[13:49] <davidcalle> dav1dp0101, ^
[13:50] <AtuM> davidcalle, sorry ;-) I ment dav1dp0101
[13:50] <davidcalle> AtuM, no worries :)
[13:50] <AtuM> davidcalle, hope I did not wake you up there ;)
[13:50] <iptable> dav1dp0101, correct. you need raid1 for redundancy. that's backup against failing drives (hardware). you need rsync or other solution for backups against total disaster failure or corruption. you need that rasync/other backup with versioning (incremental/differencial) for accidental data deletion recovery in time.
[13:50] <davidcalle> AtuM, how dare you waking me up at work!
[13:51] <davidcalle> ;)
[13:51] <AtuM> davidcalle, please spare me.
[13:51] <iptable> AtuM, that's installation FAIL. you have to grub-install /dev/sda and /dev/sdb after system install. thats' NOT what he is describing (both drives died apparently...)
[13:51] <iptable> dav1dp0101, so that, together with the link I have given you and other info is enough for you to make a good backup plan.
[13:52] <Moscherkobold> hello everyone, is it possible to move a thunderbird profile folder from a windows machine to my linux machine? I know this works fine from windows to windows or linux to linux, but does it also work over different OS ?
[13:52] <cfhowlett> Moscherkobold, export the data from source, move it to target, import.  done.
[13:53] <AtuM> iptable, so true.. what I wouldn't do to have a chance at such an installation fail on 14.04 desktop. I know how to correct it - the 14.04 desktop has no mdraid anymore.. any known guide out there on how to make it work ???
[13:53] <Moscherkobold> cfhowlett: what do you mean with export and import? just copy the folder?
[13:54] <iptable> AtuM, you got me lost there. why can't you install mdraid? or install ubuntu-server and then issue apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[13:54] <cfhowlett> Moscherkobold, wait 1 - searching
[13:54] <superkuh> Dang. I thought updating to fglrx-updates would fix it. It didn't.
[13:54] <iptable> dav1dp0101, and never use hardware raid unless you got manufacturer replacement part guarantee (so they can replace with exactly same part). HW raid controllers are NOT compatible with each other, even different models from same manufacturer. Software raid for basic installations is much better. recover to any other hardware.
[13:55] <iptable> dav1dp0101, that's from "failed controller/motherboard/server" perspective
[13:55] <superkuh> It doesn't show the corruption in screenshots. I'd have to physically take photos of my monitors.
[13:55] <dav1dp0101> iptable, cfhowlett, AtuM: thanks for all the advice. Ultimately I'm not gonna go with raid1, but I am gonna do my rsyncs a bit better.
[13:55] <superkuh> Even just running fglrxinfo does it.
[13:55] <cfhowlett> Moscherkobold, "address book > tools > import|export"
[13:55] <cfhowlett> dav1dp0101, happy2help
[13:55] <AtuM> iptable, I've tried installing ubuntu-server also. but the end result was a loop when initrd tried to bring up the md devices.. could't figure that one out - lack of time
[13:55] <superkuh> Like fglrxinfo is somehow using the RAM of the X display.
[13:56] <superkuh> As soon as that part of the X display is updated by some other process it goes away.
[13:56] <Moscherkobold> cfhowlett: i was not talking about the adress book, sorry if this was not written clear enough
[13:56] <AtuM> dav1dp0101, I'd go with hardware raid1 and rsync as a backup.
[13:57] <cfhowlett> Moscherkobold, of course   :)   there's a way - searching
[13:57] <Moscherkobold> cfhowlett: I want to move the whole thunderbird profile to another maschine
[13:57] <iptable> AtuM, worked out of the box here
[13:57] <dav1dp0101> AtuM: i think you missed the earlier convo, but I can't do hardware Raid1 because we don't have enough hardware.
[13:57] <iptable> AtuM, some other issue I guess
[13:57] <Moscherkobold> cfhowlett: i know this works from one windows machine to another, I was just wondering if this will also work across different OS
[13:58] <cfhowlett> Moscherkobold, I think if you have an OS agnostic format (text delimited, for example) it works without issue
[13:58] <AtuM> dav1dp0101, oh, that can be quite limiting, true. Best of luck with rsync!
[13:59] <cfhowlett> Moscherkobold, I can't see this (great chinese firewall) but I think it explains all   http://kb.mozillazine.org/Importing_and_exporting_your_mail
[13:59] <Moscherkobold> cfhowlett: thank you :)
[13:59] <AtuM> iptable, I made the exact same thing on some newer hardware also.. that system is plain old - so i went and installed debian stable - old software for an old workstation ;-)
[13:59] <cfhowlett> Moscherkobold, even better ( I guess)  http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_backup
[14:00] <_unreal_> any one very knowledgeable about NAS servers?
[14:02] <iptable> AtuM, ah too new for you :P
[14:02] <iptable> _unreal_, a lot of people
[14:03] <_unreal_> the issue I'm having is that I keep having access issues to my DSM-G600
[14:03] <_unreal_> I try to FTP into it to add/remove files and get no route to host errors
[14:04] <_unreal_> Response:	425 Can't build data connection: No route to host.
[14:04] <_unreal_> Error:	Failed to retrieve directory listing
[14:04] <_unreal_> I had a LOT of small files. could it be that the nas is having issues with a large volume of files and folders?
[14:06] <iptable> _unreal_, that's networking issue. don't use FTP if you can avoid it. it's sh1t
[14:07] <_unreal_> i'm getting the same issues I believe both on SMB and ftp
[14:07] <running_rabbit07> I installed Nemo, then after a restart there are icons on the desktop for trash and whatnot, can I use this command to remove them? I found it on an Arch wiki. "gsettings set org.nemo.desktop show-desktop-icons false"
[14:07] <iptable> _unreal_, it's probably FTP issue even. works using other access protocols? smb? web? If so, it's FTP is bad. if not, you have a networking problem.
[14:07] <iptable> _unreal_, we don't work with "I believe". TEST!
[14:07]  * iptable goes to pickup kids from sch00l
[14:08] <_unreal_> school? you must be in uk
[14:08] <_unreal_> I just dropped mine off 2 hours ago
[14:11] <TurkerTunali> what should I check if sudo pm-hibernate does nothing?
[14:11] <TurkerTunali> i have enoug swap space
[14:11] <_unreal_> does nothing?
[14:11] <TurkerTunali> swap is larger than memory
[14:11] <running_rabbit07> nevermind, I used "gsettings set org.nemo.desktop home-icon-visible false; gsettings set org.nemo.desktop trash-icon-visible false; gsettings set org.nemo.desktop computer-icon-visible false; gsettings set org.nemo.desktop volumes-visible false"
[14:12] <expunge> TurkerTunali: might check your BIOS config
[14:12] <TurkerTunali> expunge: Which BIOS settings? I can hibernate on win7
[14:12] <_unreal_> win7 has nothing to do with your bios
[14:12] <expunge> TurkerTunali: on the same box, you mean?
[14:13] <TurkerTunali> yea same laptop
[14:13] <expunge> oh okay
[14:13] <_unreal_> your bios is what you access the moment you power on your laptop
[14:13] <expunge> TurkerTunali: do you have a script that says 'suspend' instead of 'hibernate'?
[14:13] <TurkerTunali> I have suspend
[14:13] <expunge> try that
[14:13] <TurkerTunali> ok, I am trying suspend. Does suspend means hibernate?
[14:14] <_unreal_> suspend and hibernate are different levels of powering down your computer for low or zero power consumption
[14:15] <expunge> well, really they're just arbitrary names
[14:15] <expunge> S# states are the actualities
[14:15] <TurkerTunali> I need zero power
[14:15] <expunge> TurkerTunali: try it and see if it draws power
[14:15] <TurkerTunali> I usually hibernate my computer
[14:15] <expunge> TurkerTunali: you usually press something that _says_ "hibernate"
[14:15] <TurkerTunali> ok I will try just need a moment
[14:16] <_unreal_> ok let us know AS you hibernate :)
[14:16] <expunge> the long names, "suspend", "hibernate" are a bit like intel processor codenames
[14:16] <expunge> they tell you almost nothing =)
[14:16] <TurkerTunali> I am hibernating now :)
[14:16] <expunge> =)
[14:16] <TurkerTunali> transforming to ....
[14:16] <_unreal_> shhhh he's hibernating
[14:16] <acidrain_> hello. i am running ubuntu 12.10. lately ive been having issues with KDE crashing alot more frequently. i wish to upgrade KDE to the newest 4.9. is this safe?
[14:17] <expunge> acidrain_: if the package manager allows it, it should be safe
[14:17] <acidrain_> ok. ill try it.
[14:17] <_unreal_> when does it crash most often? certain activies?
[14:18] <acidrain_> _unreal_, is seems to crash most when im away from it. ill return to the computer and see that processors are running at 0%
[14:18] <acidrain_> it morely 'freezes' right after that
[14:18] <acidrain_> it works just enough for me to open terminal and restart kde
[14:18] <expunge> maybe something to do with your power management
[14:18] <_unreal_> is this a new development?
[14:19] <acidrain_> expunge, when i first installed kde. it would actually crash maybe once every 10 days
[14:19] <acidrain_> its down to about once every day now
[14:19] <expunge> that's a lot of crashing itself =)
[14:19] <acidrain_> usually opening firefox and watching netflix causes a crash
[14:19] <expunge> although, if I had to guess, it's not necessarily KDE as much as... how it's packaged =)
[14:19] <expunge> mmm, well
[14:19] <expunge> that involves silverlight
[14:19] <_unreal_> AHHHHHH firefox
[14:19] <expunge> all bets are off =P
[14:20] <_unreal_> acidrain_, have you cleared your browser cache at all?
[14:20] <acidrain_> thats the only way i know to MAKE it crash. and it doesnt work everytime
[14:20] <acidrain_> _unreal_, id say not in the past 2yrs
[14:20] <expunge> acidrain_: what are you using for netflix?
[14:20] <expunge> development on that is fast
[14:21] <expunge> even though now they've bogarted it and starting implementing "HTML5" video
[14:21] <_unreal_> clearing your data cache in your browser wont hurt any and will clear your overhead on that software
[14:21] <_unreal_> besure not to clear your password list and any other senstive datayou dont want to loose
[14:21] <acidrain_> http://pastebin.com/LxDcfFkb  ???
[14:22] <acidrain_> expunge, its a silverlight alternative
[14:22] <acidrain_> forgot what its called.
[14:22] <_unreal_> non-free soft no doubt I bet
[14:22] <cfhowlett> !monolight
[14:22] <TurkerTunali> expunge: my computer just sleeps when Suspend, eg it needs power for memories
[14:23] <cfhowlett> !info moolight
[14:23] <acidrain_> yep. monolight it is
[14:23] <cfhowlett> !info monolight
[14:23] <expunge> I was interested in what he was using
[14:23] <expunge> not what you think he is talking about =P
[14:23] <expunge> or your spam =P
[14:23]  * expunge headdesks
[14:23] <expunge> TurkerTunali: okay
[14:23] <expunge> TurkerTunali: you're using ordinary Ubuntu?
[14:23] <TurkerTunali> yes, 14.04 fresh install
[14:23] <expunge> acidrain_: I don't think moonlight works with netflix
[14:24] <expunge> acidrain_: was it the netflix-desktop package?
[14:24] <expunge> (dpkg -l | grep -i netflix)
[14:24] <phillip> wiki down?
[14:24] <acidrain_> expunge, no. it was monolight + firefox
[14:24] <TurkerTunali> should i use some boot parameters?
[14:24] <expunge> acidrain_: monolight or moonlight?
[14:24] <expunge> phillip: try google's cache
[14:24] <acidrain_> "monolight"
[14:25] <expunge> acidrain_: mmm, never heard of it
[14:25] <expunge> I think you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonlight_%28runtime%29 but that doesn't really help with netflix IME
[14:25]  * expunge shrugs
[14:26] <phillip> thanks expunge good idea
[14:26] <expunge> TurkerTunali: might check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/Hibernate#Hibernate_Disabled_by_Default
[14:26] <acidrain_> updating KDE as we speak
[14:26] <acidrain_> :s
[14:26] <acidrain_> scared
[14:27] <expunge> acidrain_: don't worry, the worst that can happen is your computer dies and you have to go outside and enjoy life as nature intended =)
[14:27] <expunge> not so bad, right?
[14:27] <_unreal_> twilight zone doo DOO doo doo DOO doo doo
[14:28] <TurkerTunali> expunge: thanks, checking
[14:28] <_unreal_> heh and its only 90 degrees out side here
[14:29] <nonconvergent> If anyone can help me, we just setup svn (actually migrated to a new image) with dav on an apache2 server successfully, but I now I'm trying to figure out how to get some locale maven stuff setup as a virtual host on there too.  I added it to virtual host in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled but I get a forbidden when I try access that page.
[14:29] <nonconvergent> I don't really know what a virtual host is, so there's that.  Nor did I setup the maven directories.  I'm just told that they worked on the last one, so they should work on this one.
[14:29] <TurkerTunali> expunge: It says "If the hibernate test works ...." but it doesn't. sudo pm-hibernate does nothing
[14:30] <expunge> TurkerTunali: doesn't suggest a course of action?
[14:31] <acidrain_> lol. there is about 100 something packages related to KDE that i had uninstalled. what do i gotta do to make them not show up in the software update tool?
[14:32] <expunge> why would you want that
[14:32] <raub> I would think if they were uninstalled yum won't try to install thema gain
[14:32] <acidrain_> so when im reviewing the description of new packages. i dont have to scroll 2miles to see what one package is
[14:32] <pbx> nonconvergent, have you asked in #httpd?
[14:33] <nonconvergent> pbx: No.
[14:33] <expunge> acidrain_: why not just install them?
[14:33] <acidrain_> like... akregator, dolphin, gwenview, kaddressbook, nepomuk backup, knetattach, kfontview
[14:33] <acidrain_> + about 90 more
[14:34] <acidrain_> expunge, its like bloatware that comes with android. :/
[14:34] <acidrain_> default ubuntu tools work fine
[14:34] <expunge> mmm
[14:34] <expunge> you might want to get rid of kubuntu-desktop, then
[14:34] <acidrain_> but i like the look :(
[14:34] <expunge> or whatever KDE metapackage you have installed
[14:34] <cfhowlett> !yum | raub
[14:34] <expunge> just the metapackage
[14:35] <acidrain_> !metapackage
[14:35] <acidrain_> lol. i just installed this
[14:35] <acidrain_> it was part of the upgrade
[14:35] <expunge> 'this'?
[14:35] <odin> hi
[14:35] <acidrain_> i just installed the metapackage to upgrade to new KDE
[14:36] <expunge> well, you needn't have =)
[14:36] <expunge> odin: hello
[14:36] <expunge> odin: today is your day
[14:36] <odin> I have physical access to a machine, that had ubuntu isntalled, but my password doesn't work anymore, how can I gain access?
[14:36] <odin> expunge, horrible
[14:36] <expunge> odin: Wednesday, I mean =P
[14:36] <sec0815> Hi. Is there a way to configure grub2 that way,  only interactive editing of boot menues is disabled? Superuser force a password for every menu item, until it is declared unrestrictive, what makes it editable again. It is not possible to declare all user for the "--users" option.
[14:36] <expunge> odin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[14:36] <raub> odin: single user mode and then change pw? Or is it network pw?
[14:37] <expunge> sec0815: only, as opposed to?
[14:37] <odin> raub, single user
[14:39] <sec0815> expunge -- opposed to every item is locked for selection. User should be able to boot the machine, but not being able to edit an menu entry. It was quiet easy with ubuntu 12.04. (Just trying ubu 14.04).
[14:39] <raub> odin: if the machine can be rebooted, go to recover/single user mode as expunge suggested. If you can't, is there anybody else that can log in and then change your pw? I assume local accounts, right?
[14:40] <expunge> sec0815: mmm, you might just ask #grub, then
[14:40] <sec0815> expunge, ok. will have a try.
[14:40] <gansteed>  can't display ?
[14:40] <gansteed> what's the matter ?
[14:43] <ozzy_> is it default channels?
[14:44] <expunge> ozzy_: hrmm?
[14:44] <nobody18288181> what is the software that searchs ubuntu repositories? I forgot the name
[14:44] <expunge> nobody18288181: apt-cache search foo
[14:44] <iptable> nobody18288181, apt-get/apt-cache/aptitude
[14:44] <acidrain_> lol
[14:44] <nobody18288181> sorry, i mean third party repos
[14:45] <acidrain_> seems like everytime i install an update in KDE software updates. there is more updates
[14:45] <user123321> sorry my internet was reset, did anyone say anything related to my system crash after I logged out?
[14:45] <iptable> nobody18288181, uhm, add the repos to sources.list, apt-get update; apt-cache search
[14:45] <nobody18288181> it's an additional package that searches through apt repositories that isn't installed by default (it's not apt-N)
[14:45] <expunge> apt-cache search search | egrep -i apt
[14:45] <acidrain_> can anyone tell me how to remove the kde metapackage now?
[14:46] <cfhowlett> acidrain_, sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop
[14:46] <cfhowlett> !pureubuntu | acidrain_
[14:46] <iptable> nobody18288181, never heard of it
[14:46] <acidrain_> sudo apt-remove-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports -y  ???
[14:46] <expunge> cfhowlett: does that remove the package and not the deps?
[14:47] <acidrain_> cfhowlett, those commands look like they should do more than just remove the metapackage
[14:47] <acidrain_> perhaps thats not what i want. i want to remove the ppa
[14:47] <nobody18288181> it's a gui app that searches through all ppa's on launchpad
[14:47] <nobody18288181> makes it easy to add a third party repo without knowing what it is
[14:47] <expunge> nobody18288181: apt-cache search launchpad ? =)
[14:47] <cfhowlett> expunge, only the first one is a comman. pureubuntu tells how to restore to your pre-kde install status
[14:47] <expunge> he just wants to remove the meta package
[14:48] <cfhowlett> acidrain_, but I had no idea you were mucking with PPA so disregard
[14:48] <cfhowlett> !ppa
[14:48] <nobody18288181> here it is
[14:48] <nobody18288181> for anyone curious
[14:48] <nobody18288181> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/01/y-ppa-manager-004-released-with-new.html
[14:48] <iptable> nobody18288181, you mean "y ppa"?
[14:48] <expunge> nobody18288181: what's it called?
[14:48] <iptable> oh
[14:49] <nobody18288181> ye
[14:49] <iptable> yes, y ppa manager, it's not in the default ubuntu repos though and I would be scared to search ppas and add them like that.
[14:49] <nobody18288181> yolo, never had issue tbh
[14:49] <cfhowlett> !ppa-purge | acidrain_
[14:50] <acidrain_> Backports of new versions of KDE Platform, Plasma and Applcations as well as major KDE apps for Kubuntu.
[14:50] <acidrain_> man what does that mean? i dont want to remove all of the KDE apps
[14:50] <Tots> For xfce4, what Xauthority do I use for the login screen so my vnc can hook into the XSession?
[14:51] <acidrain_> brb. restarting kde
[14:51] <minotaur_> hi all
[14:51] <minotaur_> my compiz doesn't show the title bar, help...
[14:51] <acidrain_> wtf. kdm command not found
[14:51] <acidrain_> :/
[14:53] <TurkerTunali> hello guys, now I can hibernate my computer with "pm-hibernate". I've just use "echo disk > /sys/power/state" command to hibernate my computer and now "pm-hibernate" working as expected
[14:53] <TurkerTunali> I've used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/Hibernate
[14:55] <expunge> TurkerTunali: well done
[14:55] <expunge> minotaur_: can you move windows?
[14:56] <phat4life_> what are some alternatives to samba. I have ubuntu 14.04.1 and samba is causing crashes.  I just need to be able to access files from my mac on the network
[14:56] <expunge> phat4life_: sshfs
[14:56] <superkuh> NFS?
[14:56] <ddv> phat4life_: maybe you should investigate why it is crashing
[14:56] <phat4life_> ddv: fresh install of ubuntu
[14:57] <iptable> phat4life_, how are you accessing the samba shares? using GUI?
[14:57] <phat4life_> iptable: yeah
[14:57] <phat4life_> i want to be able to use a GUI
[14:57] <iptable> phat4life_, and how are you sharing on the mac?
[14:57] <phat4life_> iptable just connecting the smb://
[14:57] <phat4life_> i am not sharing anything on the mac
[14:58] <iptable> phat4life_, uhm, so how are you accessing files from the mac if you are not sharing anything on it?
[14:58] <phat4life_> iptable: i setup a samba account to read and write my /media/user directory
[14:58] <phat4life_> i didn’t configure anything on my mac
[14:59] <kulhas> hi, after upgrading my ubuntu server I get this error when trying to install php5 http://pastebin.com/7qA864kc
[14:59] <odin> thanks guys, got in
[14:59] <phat4life_> i connect via finder smb:/<IP_ADDRESS> or whatever the lan address is
[14:59] <iptable> phat4life_, so you want to access linux files on mac or vice versa? I don't get it. you said you need to be able to access files from mac on the network. I'm guessing you want to access files from mac to ubuntu.
[15:00] <iptable> phat4life_, OR do you mean you installed ubuntu on a mac and you want to access files from the network on that ubuntu that's installed on the mac?
[15:00] <phat4life_> iptable: i installed ubuntu on my desktop
[15:00] <iptable> phat4life_, so what's mac got to do with it?
[15:00] <phat4life_> iptable: i want to use the ubuntu box as a file storage server where i can read and write files on my mac
[15:01] <phat4life_> iptable: so like as if the ubuntu box was an external hard drive for my mac
[15:01] <iptable> phat4life_, so the statement "I just need to be able to access files from my mac on the network" is totally wrong
[15:01] <phat4life_> semantics sorry it wasn’t clear
[15:01] <iptable> phat4life_, so you want to be able to access files using samba that are shared by the ubuntu box
[15:01] <phat4life_> correct but not samba
[15:02] <iptable> phat4life_, but that's what you are doing, that's now crashing, right? sharing on ubuntu, using GUI on that ubuntu and accessing somewhere else?
[15:02] <odin> how can I check if a linux box is auto upgrading?
[15:02] <iptable> phat4life_, and then that ubuntu that's sharing is crashing? define "crashing"
[15:02] <somsip> odin: /var/log/unattended-upgrades/*.log (or similar)
[15:03] <iptable> odin, dpkg -l |grep unattended-upgrades
[15:04] <odin> samsip doesn't exist
[15:04] <odin> iptable: no output
[15:04] <iptable> odin, then it doesn't do auto updates
[15:04] <somsip> odin: so two negatives. It's telling you something...
[15:04] <odin> cool, weird though
[15:04] <iptable> odin, to do them, it would need the package
[15:04] <odin> I did an update upgrade
[15:04] <iptable> odin, "update upgrade" no such command
[15:04] <odin> and it only wants to update 42 packages and 34 mb
[15:05] <odin> seems strange, considering this PC was off for about a year and has Ubuntu 10.04 on it
[15:05] <iptable> odin, so why is that bad?
[15:05] <AcidRain2012> expunge: good gonig man
[15:05] <odin> iptable, I meant apt-get update; apt-get upgrade;
[15:05] <AcidRain2012> expunge: "if the package manage allows it. its safe"
[15:05] <AcidRain2012> lol
[15:05] <iptable> odin, 10.04 desktop is out of support and server only receives security updates, that's why
[15:05] <odin> iptable, because that means updates were installed, and now the system is broken
[15:05] <iptable> odin, 10.04 desktop is out of support and server only receives security updates, that's why
[15:05] <odin> specifically, if I enable the second nic (bios) then it fails to boot (doesn't boot anything, not from disk or USB)
[15:06] <odin> iptable, ok, that makes sense then
[15:06] <phat4life_> iptable: I don’t have the error handy i am at work, but the samba errors were  right after i installed ubuntu 14.04, fresh install
[15:06] <odin> now I just have to figure out why I can't enable that second nic
[15:06] <iptable> odin, upgrade to 14.04 if you acn.
[15:06] <expunge> AcidRain2012: hrmm?
[15:06] <phat4life_> iptable: like before i installed anything
[15:06] <AcidRain2012> KDE wont load no more
[15:06] <iptable> odin, and after upgrade, THEN figure out why (if) it still doesn't work
[15:06] <odin> iptable, I am not allowed to
[15:06] <AcidRain2012> it loads into a blank desktop with nothing else but a background image.
[15:06] <AcidRain2012> gnome2 loaded at first
[15:06] <odin> iptable, I have begged the bosses and explained to them the dangers of running 10.04, but I am just a slave
[15:07] <odin> I don't get to make dicisions
[15:07] <iptable> phat4life_, so it didn't crash as opposed to what you said, you received errors and can't quote them...
[15:07] <expunge> AcidRain2012: what does? What are you after?
[15:07] <AcidRain2012> i was after a stable KDE
[15:07] <AcidRain2012> now i have no KDE :(
[15:07] <iptable> phat4life_, come back once you have the box/errors at hand and we can try to figure out WHY it's producing the errors. did you read the error, what did it even suggest?
[15:08] <AcidRain2012> expunge: this is fine though. now i just wish to uninstall KDe completely and use gnome2
[15:08] <expunge> AcidRain2012: what's stopping you?
[15:08] <iptable> odin, uhm, bosses meetings and "out of support, vulnerable and WILL be hacked and you will loose all business and be jobless" statement I'm guessing was not pressed by yourself?
[15:08] <AcidRain2012> lol. knowing what command will uninstall kde
[15:08] <iptable> odin, if you are a slave of your work, wrong attitude or wrong job
[15:08] <odin> iptable, it was
[15:08] <odin> iptable, wrong job
[15:08] <iptable> odin, then you work for idiots. why are they making the decision?
[15:08] <odin> iptable, but sometimes u gotta do what u gotta do to put food on the table
[15:08] <AcidRain2012> kubuntu-desktop looks like more than just KDE
[15:08] <minotaur_> expunge, yes I can move windows :)
[15:08] <iptable> odin, and have you not another box to migrate between? why do you need second NIC anyways?
[15:09] <ikonia> kubuntu-desktop is kde
[15:09] <odin> iptable, this box is multihomed (on two different networks)
[15:09] <ikonia> it's a metapackage that pulls in kde, dependencies and the kubuntu specific packags/configurations
[15:09] <AcidRain2012> ikonia: i think kubuntu-desktop installed a safe gnome2 as a fallback. and i dont want to remove it
[15:09] <iptable> odin, so you don't have vlans either on your network?
[15:09] <odin> iptable, I do
[15:09] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: I don't think it did
[15:09] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: I'd be very surprised if it did
[15:10] <odin> iptable, I have a fully isolated VLAN, hence the need for the second nic
[15:10] <iptable> odin, so why do you need another NIC? just put both VLANs on that port for the NIC and configure your VLAN interfaces on the 1 nic
[15:10] <AcidRain2012> ikonia: well i have it. and im not sure how i got it. then again. i havent tampered with my system in an extremely long time
[15:10] <odin> iptable, what?
[15:10] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: is this a kubuntu install, or an ubuntu install with kubuntu-desktop
[15:10] <iptable> odin, no, a NIC can be on multiple vlans. and the port can be configured to be a trunk port for multiple vlans
[15:10] <AcidRain2012> its a ubuntu 12.10 install with kubuntu-desktop
[15:10] <odin> iptable, I have so no clue htf that works
[15:10] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: so thats where gnome came from
[15:11] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: gnome is part of the ubuntu innstall
[15:11] <ikonia> install
[15:11] <AcidRain2012> rly?
[15:11] <odin> iptable, so ur telling me I can make one physical interface appear as two in linux?
[15:11] <ikonia> yes
[15:11] <AcidRain2012> i installed KDE cause i thought that ubuntu used unity now
[15:11] <AcidRain2012> and unity is just horrible
[15:11] <iptable> odin, let's say you want vlans 100 and 200 for that box. on the switch you set the port as trunk port and tag vlans 100 and 200 on it. on the ubuntu box you configure eth0.100 interface and eth0.200 interface. this creates 2 interfaces using 1 physical interface, one for vlan100 one for 200
[15:11] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: unity is based on a lot of gnome libraries
[15:11] <qwerkus> hello. Can someone point me to a working howto on a clean xorg reinstall (complete purge + nvidia removal + reinstall) in 14.04 ? Thanks a lot.
[15:12] <odin> iptable, wow, I understand the switch side but fuck, ubuntu can do that
[15:12] <iptable> odin, you can make one interface appear as 2 on the same network even, without even having vlans, just using aliases
[15:12] <iptable> odin, no swearing please
[15:12] <iptable> odin, googling "ubuntu 10.04 vlan howto" returns nice examples and tutorials
[15:13] <odin> fack, thanks so much iptable
[15:13] <odin> also... approrpriate name :D
[15:13] <iptable> odin, here is one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/vlan, here is another: http://www.microhowto.info/howto/configure_an_ethernet_interface_as_a_vlan_trunk_on_debian.html
[15:13] <iptable> odin, cheers :) and no problem.
[15:14] <AcidRain2012> ok. what i need to do now. if i wish to use KDE. is completely uninstall KDE and all of its packages. and reinstall
[15:14] <MagicSpud> hello I ve been using storybook 4.0.9 for a while and now I notice the copywrite is obsolete from 2012. does that mean I cant go pro? I would like the complete version of the program
[15:14] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: why would you uninstall kde if you want to use kde
[15:15] <AcidRain2012> ikonia: becasue its still loading a desktop ONLY. nothing else
[15:15] <AcidRain2012> i cant get back to regular gnome2
[15:15] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: what desktop do you want to actually use ?
[15:16] <AcidRain2012> kde is very nice. i wish to go with that. but if it will further damage my system. i wish to use gnome2
[15:16] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: gnoem2 doesn't exist
[15:16] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: no supported distro is using gnome 2
[15:16] <AcidRain2012> i was just looking at it man :/
[15:16] <iptable> odin, if you are not doing layer 2 separation but only have 2 separate subnets on same vlan, you can even do that without vlans, eth0:1 and eth0:2 can be created and assigned IPs. It's called interface alias. alternatively, you can create bridge interfaces that are connected to just your eth0, call them br0 and br1 and give them separate IPs (that's also assuming your network has no vlans)
[15:16] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: ubuntu uses unity, kubuntu uses kde, xbuntu users xfce
[15:17] <odin> iptable, I am doing layer 2 seperation on the switch
[15:17] <iptable> odin, so depending on your scenario, use either aliases/bridge if you are not using vlans, or configure vlans with eth0.VLANID etc if using vlans
[15:17] <AcidRain2012> when i restarted my comp after kde updates. it booted into gnome2. i hit logout. my options where: unity 2d, unity 3d, gnome2, plasma desktop
[15:17] <iptable> odin, my linux router has got 7 vlans configured, including lab vlan etc. it definitely works ;)
[15:17] <odin> iptable, I am playing with the vlan as eth0.vlandid
[15:17] <AcidRain2012> i chose plasma desktop. now im stuck with ONLY  a desktop
[15:17] <odin> so the eth0. specifies the physical interface, right?
[15:18] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: gnome2 is not in supported disitros
[15:18] <ikonia> distros
[15:18] <iptable> odin, cool. have fun. PM me if you get stuck. I am here most of the time during UK business hours
[15:18] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: there are various packages such as "fallback" which was changed to something else in 14.04 (can't remember the name)
[15:18] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: your best realistic bet is to pick a currently supported desktop you like - and install a supported distro with it and get used to use it
[15:18] <AcidRain2012> ikonia: i believe youl .but i do have it. and my preferences are KDE > gnome2 > switch back to windows xp
[15:18] <iptable> odin, yes, eth0 is physical. the ".100, .200" specify vlans. the ":1 :2 etc" specify aliases, and brXX are bridge interfaces
[15:19] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: I suspect you have either gnome-fallback or gnome2 from some other repo
[15:19] <odin> iptable, thanks alot for the help
[15:19] <iptable> odin, you can have br0.100 or eth0.100 or bond0.100 (for bond interfaces, bond) and these will be on vlan 100
[15:19] <iptable> odin, no probs
[15:20] <AcidRain2012> can anyone tell me if hitting the power button 1 time for a split second will log me out of a DE?
[15:20] <AcidRain2012> i have to get to a terminal
[15:20] <ikonia> ctrl+alt+F1/2/3/4/5
[15:20] <iptable> AcidRain2012, if you configured it to do so, yes. otherwise, no
[15:20] <ikonia> change to a VT
[15:20] <AcidRain2012> ikonia: ok, brb. imma try that
[15:20] <iptable> AcidRain2012, CTRL ... oh. what ikonia said ;)
[15:21] <iptable> oooh, using VT-d successfully?
[15:21] <iptable> damn, my dell has a bios bug and doesn't reserve shadow GTT so I can't do it :/
[15:22] <AcidRain2012> ok. ive made it to a terminal
[15:23] <AcidRain2012> for some reason, kdm is no longer a command
[15:23] <ikonia> no it doesn't use kdm as a window manager any more
[15:23] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: what are you doing ??
[15:23] <AcidRain2012> so i cannot load kde. my plan is to make it to the gnome2 or unity shell as of now. then fix the issues.
[15:23] <AcidRain2012> right now im looking at ONLY a terminal window
[15:23] <AcidRain2012> ctrl+alt+f1 helped me here
[15:23] <tata> I changed video card, do I must install ubuntu again ?(older ubuntu 10.4)
[15:23] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: what are you trying to change/fix
[15:24] <AcidRain2012> ikonia: i wish to fix KDE it work
[15:24] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | tata, you might need to reconfigure graphics
[15:24] <cfhowlett> tata, also ... 10.04?  upgrade!  14.04
[15:24] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: ok - so how are you going to fix kde ?
[15:24] <AcidRain2012> main goal: reinstall KDE and ALL of its packages from scratch. clean install. Plan B: just use gnome2. Plan C: (hopefully we dont make it this far), use winxp
[15:24] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: what's your plan/approach
[15:25] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: why are you going to re-install the kde packages
[15:25] <AcidRain2012> ikonia: because, kde is broken...
[15:25] <AcidRain2012> how else would i fix it?
[15:25] <ikonia>  AcidRain2012 that doesn't mean re-install the packages
[15:25] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you're using 12.10 correct ?
[15:25] <AcidRain2012> yes.
[15:25] <user123321> Is upgrading the linux kernel to a newer version than the official ubuntu released advisable?
[15:25] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: ok - why not take this oppertunity to install kubuntu 14.04
[15:25] <user123321> release*
[15:26] <AcidRain2012> because i have too much stuff to loose
[15:26] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you get onto a supported version - the latest kde and you get a working kde install
[15:26] <cfhowlett> AcidRain2012, this ^^^ 14.04 lubuntu!
[15:26] <AcidRain2012> and i have a bad experience with the "upgrade" button
[15:26] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: don't upgrade
[15:26] <ikonia> do a clean install
[15:26] <AcidRain2012> :(
[15:26] <AcidRain2012> i refuse
[15:26] <ikonia> why ?
[15:26] <AcidRain2012> ikonia: i have 5yrs of work on this computer.
[15:26] <ikonia> what's the issue ?
[15:26] <ikonia> back it up
[15:26] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you should be backing it up anyway I assume
[15:26] <AcidRain2012> if kde will just work. or i can get to gnome2, ill be extremely happy
[15:26] <cfhowlett> AcidRain2012, bad upgrade?  image how sad you'll be when you a security violation since you no longer get security updates.
[15:27] <AcidRain2012> i have like 20 servers man. its too much configuration
[15:27] <AcidRain2012> i use some packages that were hard to get working on ubuntu 12
[15:27] <AcidRain2012> like icecast
[15:27] <AcidRain2012> ices2
[15:27] <AcidRain2012> just a small example
[15:28] <siwica> I just installed Passenger which is a Ruby server. I was instructed to create "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/passenger.list" and to secure it via:
[15:28] <siwica> sudo chown root: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/passenger.list
[15:28] <siwica> sudo chmod 600 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/passenger.list
[15:28] <siwica> sudo apt-get update
[15:28] <siwica> Now I am getting the error:
[15:28] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: your best bet is to install 14.04 clean - get a clean machine restore your work
[15:28] <tata> ok, thank you
[15:28] <cfhowlett> AcidRain2012, so you have servers that are unsecured?  gotta say, you might be a cool guy, but I wouldn't hire you.  you are knowingly running unsupported systems!
[15:28] <siwica> E:Opening /etc/apt/sources.list.d/passenger.list -ifstream::ifstream (13: Permission denied)
[15:28] <siwica> why is that?
[15:29] <somsip> siwica: try chmod 644 - that's what mine are in there
[15:29] <AcidRain2012> these servers arent rly for public use
[15:29] <AcidRain2012> they are for me
[15:29] <AcidRain2012> and i would prefer not to spend another month installing them.
[15:29] <Tots> What the command to change ownership of a directory and all files?
[15:30] <cfhowlett> Tots, chmod
[15:30] <somsip> Tots: chown -R {user} {dir}
[15:30] <somsip> Tots: thats "all files and dirs recursively"
[15:30] <AcidRain2012> how to start unity from terminal?
[15:30] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: all the more reason to go onto a long term suport release like 14.04 with 5 years of support
[15:30] <tata> I dont want to upgrade 10.4, because, unity desktop is not for me
[15:30] <AcidRain2012> ikonia: i guess i will do an upgrade. but first. i have to backup
[15:30] <cfhowlett> tata, lubuntu, xubuntu kubuntu, ubuntu-gnome ... NONE of those run unity
[15:30] <jim_> hello,i have ubuntu with gnome installed.....64 bit the lastest lts release..so when i had unity i had installed the amd radeon drivers and they worked fine..but when i installed gnome (because i didnt liked unity)and after trying installing the ati adrivers they didnt work...no effects on compiz either!help!
[15:30] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you can't, you already have X working
[15:30] <running_rabbit07> tata, there is a flashback gnome in ubuntu 14.04
[15:30] <AcidRain2012> getting to a user interface is needed
[15:30] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: do not do an upgrade
[15:31] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: your system is not in a good state
[15:31] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: getting to a user interface is not needed to backup / restore
[15:31] <AcidRain2012> ikonia: i mean ill do a cd fresh install of 14
[15:31] <AcidRain2012> x is not working
[15:31] <tata> ok
[15:31] <ikonia> you have X already running
[15:31] <AcidRain2012> im looking at a terminal window only. and says x failed to initialize
[15:31] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: X is working
[15:31] <ikonia> your desktop is not working
[15:31] <ikonia> thats not what you said
[15:31] <ikonia> you said the desktop was failing to load
[15:32] <ikonia> that means X11 is running, you just didn't get KDE
[15:32] <siwica> somsip: thanks, I'll try that
[15:32] <sky_man> hi
[15:32] <running_rabbit07> !hi | sky_man
[15:33] <LeandroR_> join #pootle
[15:34] <LeandroR_> \join #pootle
[15:35] <goldenfox> o.o
[15:36] <AcidRain2012> how do i launch unity from terminal?
[15:40] <teward> AcidRain2012, `sudo unity &` I think, forks it into the background
[15:41] <teward> AcidRain2012, but unless you really need to do this, there's no need to really run Unity from terminall
[15:45] <pbx> when i right-click on an image in Files, it offers firefox but not chrome for viewing. how do i change that?
[15:46] <espadrine1> Hi, My google skills have failed me, anyone know if theres a site that details differences between ubuntu and debian? (For example default installed packages)
[15:47] <AcidRain2012> can someone please just tell me how to start unity from terminal?
[15:47] <AcidRain2012> sudo serivce gnome-shell start doesnt work
[15:47] <AcidRain2012> says package not installed
[15:48] <pbx> AcidRain2012, what WM/DE is running?
[15:48] <AcidRain2012> lightdm
[15:48] <AcidRain2012> i cannot use sudo service lightdm start. its loads a broken KDE
[15:49] <pbx> espadrine1, it's possible there are some answers for you here -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debian
[15:51] <espadrine1> Thanks I'll take a look
[15:52] <jim_> so what d you guys recommend to do?
[15:52] <geirha> and unity should certainly NOT be run with sudo
[15:53] <AcidRain2012> geirha: i ONLY want it to work for now. i wish to upgrade to ubuntu 14
[15:53] <AcidRain2012> i want this damn terminal window to go away and get some gUI
[15:55] <Ampelbein> AcidRain2012: You can select the session to use in lightdm, if your KDE environment is broken, just select the unity session?
[15:55] <pussygladiator> hey, are there any packages on ubuntu for installer for wiping ubuntu and installing another OS over it?
[15:55] <netlar> I want to create my own help file for Ubuntu, where is a good place to start.  I want it to be viewed on the help system inside ubuntu
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> pussygladiator  boot from live dvd or usb, use gparted to delete ubuntu, install somdething else
[15:56] <pussygladiator> its a vps
[15:56] <geirha> AcidRain2012: well, sudo will just make things worse. Are you sure the ubuntu-desktop package is installed?
[15:56] <teward> pussygladiator, if it's a VPS then your VPS provider should be able to do it, contact them
[15:56] <pussygladiator> they said they wouldnt
[15:56] <pussygladiator> lol
[15:56] <pussygladiator> what a pain in the ass
[15:56] <pussygladiator> but they said I can do it myself
[15:57] <pussygladiator> but its a bitch
[15:57] <teward> pussygladiator, then you're out of luck.  please mind your language here, this is a family-friendly channel
[15:57] <teward> !language | pussygladiator
[15:57] <Ampelbein> pussygladiator: What vps provider is this?
[15:57] <pussygladiator> lol sorry
[15:57] <pussygladiator> its a $12 dedicated server from online.net
[15:58] <AcidRain2012> geirha: yes
[15:58] <AcidRain2012> geirha: how do i make lightdm load unity instead of kde?
[15:58] <pussygladiator> But how can I install an OS over ubuntu from the desktop?
[15:59]  * iptable considers changing nick to slashme
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  lightdm remembers your last choice
[15:59] <AcidRain2012> my last choice is kde
[15:59] <AcidRain2012> i want to switch it to unity
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  ok, then change it to unity/ubuntu
[16:00] <AcidRain2012> how?
[16:00] <root1> exit
[16:00] <Ampelbein> pussygladiator: You generally can't do this from a running install.
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  by clicking on the gnome symbol
[16:00] <Ampelbein> AcidRain2012: Is lightdm set to auto-login?
[16:00] <AcidRain2012> MonkeyDust: i dont have that
[16:00] <teward> pussygladiator, unless you have the ability to overwrite the OS from some kind of console interface or graphical web control interface you'd have to have physical access to the machine, there might be a control panel that can do that on their site.  but you generally can't do this from a running install like Ampelbein said
[16:00] <AcidRain2012> lightdm is indeed auto logging in
[16:00] <AlexPortable> Can I use unetbootin for cd's?
[16:00] <AlexPortable> instead of usb sticks
[16:00] <AcidRain2012> stopping that would help
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  did you you install kubuntu only?
[16:00] <AcidRain2012> i am using ubuntu
[16:00] <AcidRain2012> kubuntu-desktop is not installed. BUT, lightdm boots into kde
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  you lost me, is it ubuntu/unity or kubuntu/kde
[16:01] <alinmear> hey guys. i am currently using a dell laptop with a port replicator. how can i disable the automatic screen detection, when putting my worksation into the dock?
[16:01] <AcidRain2012> ubuntu/kde
[16:01] <AcidRain2012> lol
[16:01] <AcidRain2012> i am having some serious issues right now
[16:01] <xangua> AlexPortable: just burn as image, also ubuntu doesn't fit on a cd you need a dvd
[16:02] <Ampelbein> AcidRain2012: On the konsole, "sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf", put a "#" in front of the autologin-user* lines, then restart lightdm
[16:02] <alinmear> on kde there is the display-daemon, which can be easily disabled, but what is it on ubuntu with unity?
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  how did kde get there?
[16:02] <AlexPortable> xangua: my current OS is not ubuntu. How can I burn it to cd?
[16:02] <xangua> burn iso as image AlexPortable
[16:02] <AlexPortable> xangua: what do you mean?
[16:02] <Ampelbein> AlexPortable: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  how did you install ubuntu in the first place?
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  ^^^^
[16:04] <AcidRain2012> Ampelbein: it worked!
[16:04] <AcidRain2012> thankjs!
[16:04] <Ampelbein> yw
[16:04] <AcidRain2012> im going to start downloading ubuntu 14 and backing up now
[16:04] <rgouveia> hello ... in 14.04 and also 14.10 after grub i get a black screen until some messages about swap appear then i get the graphical login. this is an acer laptop with intel gpu. any thoughts ?
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> rgouveia  14.10 is not ready, any reason you are trying to boot it? support for 14.10 in #ubuntu+1
[16:06] <rgouveia> MonkeyDust: i thought i gave it a spin and help seeing it will be next release. so you recommend that i  head to ubuntu+1 ?
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> rgouveia  for 14.10 yes
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> rgouveia  hint: use a virtual machine to test new releases
[16:07] <jbeez> any of you guys familiar with plymouth to show a boot splash in ubuntu?
[16:08] <rgouveia> MonkeyDust: it's more fun like this ;-) thx
[16:09] <AcidRain2012> i wish to backup the full filesystem EXCLUDING all external drives. how can i do this?
[16:10] <AcidRain2012> i wish to backup to /media/Server2/Backups/Full Backup/
[16:11] <iptable> tortib, why must I issue STARTTLS command first to email you
[16:11] <iptable> tortib, ?
[16:11] <tortib> iptable: wat
[16:11] <tortib> oh shit
[16:11] <tortib> one second
[16:12] <iptable> tortib, the rest of the world is accepting unencrypted email ;)
[16:12] <DaZ> unfortunately :v
[16:12] <Ampelbein> AcidRain2012: rsync -avz --exclude '/media/*' / /media/Server2/Backups/.... ?
[16:12] <tortib> iptable: hmmm it should work
[16:12] <jim_> is there any way to make the amd ati driver to work on gnome?
[16:12] <tortib> i can send from gmail to my domain without problems.
[16:12] <jim_> it worked on unity but it refuses to work on gnome
[16:12] <Ampelbein> AcidRain2012: "man rsync" so you can see what the options mean
[16:12] <AcidRain2012> Ampelbein: ill try that
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  disconnect/unmount the external drives
[16:14] <tortib> iptable: any idea how I can disable that on postfix? :\
[16:14] <iptable> tortib, testing agian. just wanted to say I remember about your request and will have it in 2-3 days, but it's still broken
[16:14] <iptable> tortib, see my PM
[16:15] <AcidRain2012> cache_alignment    : 64
[16:15] <AcidRain2012> does this mean 64 bit?
[16:18] <AlexPortable> AcidRain2012: 64 bit cache alignment? i thought cache was in MB not in bit
[16:19] <AcidRain2012> im trying to determine which versino of ubuntu 14 i need
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  sudo dmidecode --type 4 ... the last line
[16:21] <AcidRain2012> CPU op-mode(s):        32-bit, 64-bit
[16:21] <AcidRain2012> so i need a 64bit ubuntu 14
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  sudo dmidecode --type 4
[16:21] <Tots> When I mount a harddrive with a specific name, do I have to eveery time, change the owner of that drive so people acn use it?
[16:22] <Tots> I did a mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/hdd  and I'd like users to have access to it but chown -R username /mnt/hdd won't change owner
[16:22] <AcidRain2012> yep. 64 bit capable
[16:23] <zeorin> Hi all, I'm getting some weird DNS behaviour. I can't reach inc.com. It seems like my local dns implementation (which is still dnsmasq--I didn't change anything) is answering for it with <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:23] <AcidRain2012> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso  this is what im getting
[16:23] <Tots> when I do verbose, it says things changed, but hwen I double check, they haven't
[16:24] <zeorin> First noticed it in the browser, and then I double-checked using dig
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  ubuntu.com/downloads
[16:25] <zeorin> there's no authority section in the response, though
[16:25]  * Seromania is now away: Momentan nicht erreichbar
[16:26] <AlexPortable> Sero|Away: why are you away?
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> !away > Sero|Away
[16:31] <rawrmonster> Is there a way in ubuntu to prioritize types of network traffic?
[16:34] <bazhang> !info wondershaper
[16:34] <Tots> How do I set permissions when mounting a partition? It keeps making root only have access to the partition e.o
[16:35] <wuschLOR1> I accidentially changed the rights to my / and now can't access the sudoers file. Upon restart the machine won't start up properly any more.
[16:36] <cn28h> Tots: what file system? you may be able to specify -o uid=<myuid>,gid=<mygid> to map it
[16:37] <zeorin> wuschLOR1: was it a recursive change?
[16:38] <AcidRain2012> now that is what im talking about damn it
[16:38] <AcidRain2012> doing a full backup of the whole system
[16:38] <AcidRain2012> cant mess that up
[16:38] <wuschLOR1> zeorin: What does recursive mean? It was by accidentaly hitting enter after sudo chown -hR [user] /
[16:39] <AcidRain2012> wuschLOR1: whatever you do. dont reboot. i had done this one time
[16:39] <zeorin> that is recursive. Recursive means that it does it not only on the target, but also on the files and subfolders inside
[16:39] <AcidRain2012> there IS a way to restore permissions to the /
[16:39] <zeorin> yes, don't reboot
[16:40] <wuschLOR1> zeorin: too late. Wasn't smart.
[16:41] <AcidRain2012> wuschLOR1: you rebooted and got back into the system?
[16:42] <wuschLOR1> acidrain2012: I rebooted and at the point where it should be showing me the login-screen it shows a black screen, mouse being cursor-like but I can't input anything.
[16:42] <zeorin> wuschLOR1: if you managed to get back into the system, you *could* still save it
[16:42] <AcidRain2012> wuschLOR1: fail
[16:42] <zeorin> wuschLOR1: but it's a serious effort
[16:43] <AcidRain2012> wuschLOR1: my personal advice is to remove that drive. install ubuntu on another drive. then recover what you need from that drive.
[16:43] <AcidRain2012> im no expert. but that will work
[16:43] <zeorin> wuschLOR1: AcidRain2012's advice is the easier way.
[16:44] <wuschLOR1> AcidRain2012: Thanks for the advice. I guess I'll do that then.
[16:44] <AcidRain2012> wuschLOR1: i would imagine anything other than what i have suggested would require something like a 0day hack.
[16:44] <wuschLOR1> zeorin: If you can point me into the direction of how to recover it, that would be of great help. I know so little that I wouldn't even know what to search for...
[16:45] <zeorin> wuschLOR1: the other way is to create a new Ubuntu installation, try and remember which programs you had installed, install them, then run a script to discover for each file on the whole system what the permissions/ownerships were; then boot your old system with a liveCD, chroot into it's root env, and run the script in reverse to apply all the permissions again
[16:45] <zeorin> It's probably too much hassle, and imprecice
[16:46] <zeorin> look here for how to actually do that, if you're *very* brave https://superuser.com/questions/132891/how-to-reset-folder-permissions-to-their-default-in-ubuntu-9-10/356946#356946
[16:46] <wuschLOR1> zeorin: That does sound like I'd have too many chances to mess it up. Thanks for the help, anyway! I'll try AcidRain2012's approach.
[16:46] <AcidRain2012> zeorin: when i had messed up and recursively changed ownership of /. someone had provided me with a permissions file that contained every permission to every file on the system. at least enough to make it quickly recoverable long enough to backup what i needed and reinstall
[16:47] <AcidRain2012> regardless. i believe a reinstall is needed to avoid future issues. even if you got it working just 'ok'
[16:47] <zeorin> I think recursively messing up the permissions is like a rite of passage ;)
[16:47] <zeorin> We all do it--once--at some point
[16:48] <AcidRain2012> lol
[16:48] <wuschLOR1> AcidRain2012: So zeorin's aproach is only useful if I really need to recover more than my /home directory?
[16:48] <AcidRain2012> its what you have to do to be a normal linux user
[16:48] <AcidRain2012> wuschLOR1: both approaches are if you wish to recover everything that you wish
[16:48] <wuschLOR1> considering myself successfully hazed, then. Thanks ;)
[16:48] <zeorin> wuschLOR1: yes. If you only want to recover the data on your /home partition, just boot a liveCD, and back that data up, then reinstall from scratch
[16:48] <AcidRain2012> as long as you dont accidentally do a delete /, you should be ok
[16:49] <zeorin> I had this problem on a server *blushes*
[16:49] <nomic> where are the last updates list of updates held?
[16:49]  * AcidRain2012 hides face
[16:49] <AcidRain2012> im doing a 80gig backup of my / right now
[16:49] <Toaster_Strudel> I haven't done this sinec xorg.. My screen resolution is stuck at 640x480
[16:49] <zeorin> had to try it the hard way--worked, too. Occasionally got a message about sudoers ownership after, but they were easy fixes as they happened.
[16:50] <Toaster_Strudel> I dont see any options to change it.. Vbox guest addons are installed
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> nomic  /var/log/dpkg.log
[17:01] <AcidRain2012> oh sorry
[17:02] <AcidRain2012> i had said ealier it was monolight i was using for netflix. its actually pipelight
[17:02] <AcidRain2012> i see it now while doing a full system bsackup :D
[17:02] <cheeseboy> AcidRain2012, you can use html5 now
[17:02] <cheeseboy> no need sulverlight
[17:03] <Toaster_Strudel> Why am I stuck in 640x480?
[17:03] <AcidRain2012> yea ill get to that after this backup is done and ive installed ubuntu 14
[17:03] <AcidRain2012> though ubuntu is making me mad. i feel like they force an updated upon me after the EOL of every LTS release
[17:04] <AcidRain2012> i dont see why ubuntu doesnt just keep updating packages for security, rather than making a whole new release
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> Toaster_Strudel  maybe you have to give more memory to your display
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  what you want is a rolling release, then
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  that's been discussed and not approved
[17:05] <Toaster_Strudel> MonkeyDust: I'll try it out thanks
[17:05] <wuschLOR1> I'm running Kubuntu from a live stick in order to backup my /home partition. However, I can access neither the /home/user nor my backup partition on an external drive. It coould be they're all encrypted. Any hints on how to achieve a backup?
[17:07] <AcidRain2012> MonkeyDust: a rolling release? where do i get such hax from?
[17:08] <FSMaxB> Hi. Can anyone tell me the boot parameter to set the keyboard layout for Ubuntu livecds? ( not pressing F3 and selecting it, I need the actual parameter )
[17:08] <schhab> hey all
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  start here http://askubuntu.com/questions/412872/rolling-release-in-ubuntu
[17:09] <schhab> need help with Nvidia display drivers
[17:09] <AcidRain2012> lmao
[17:09] <AcidRain2012> the answer is simply: "No."
[17:10] <FSMaxB> Does anyone now the livecd bootparameter for setting the keyboard layout?
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  ow you know you're not the first to ask
[17:15] <schhab> any clue on how to reset the display properties, i cant get to desktop
[17:18] <Boscop_> hi. I upgraded ubuntu to 14.04 but now i can't boot anymore. it says pcmcia error
[17:18] <Tots> If I'm running Ubuntu Server 14.04 with xfce4, how can I auto-login as a certain user?
[17:19] <Boscop_> http://www.mirari.fr/Edi3.jpg
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> Boscop_  a pcmcia card is old technology, didnt know it still existed
[17:20] <tsar> Hi! I've got a problem with gamepad and wheel. I might have broken something and now even evtest doesn't see them, and I can't use them in games. How can I dig into this problem?
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> tsar  how is that ubuntu related?
[17:22] <tsar> MonkeyD, well, it's a problem I've encountered in Ubuntu.
[17:22] <alanjf> What is the safest way to clear out entries in the status file that have "Status: purge ok not-installed" ? Is it ok to manaually edit them out since they represent packages that were unistalled ?
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> alanjf  try    sudo aptitude purge '~c'
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> alanjf  first do   sudo aptitude search '~c'
[17:24] <alanjf> MonkeyDust: Thanks, I'll try that.
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> alanjf  something else i picked up here... dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' |  sudo xargs dpkg -P
[17:30] <alanjf> MonkeyDust: Isn't dpkg -P what leaves those entries in status in the first place?
[17:31] <hunkisch> hi guys..
[17:31] <decwrl> Anyone have any experience setting up kernel dumps (kdump-tools)?  I'm trying to set this up on 14.04.  Works fine in a VM, doesn't work on an HP Proliant DL360G8.
[17:32] <samthewildone> question, just shot a video on my phone how do I flip the video in vlc ?
[17:32] <hunkisch> anyone know how to get xcode on ubuntu?
[17:32] <samthewildone> I know I can flip images but what about videos ?
[17:32] <DJones> [A[B
[17:33] <samthewildone> never mind found it
[17:44] <zero_coder> hi, after using wine to play games. my screen resolution changed to something else
[17:45] <zero_coder> how can i reset it back
[17:47] <labsin> zero_coder, In settings > screen. I don't know how to do it automaticly
[17:49] <sputnik13> hi, running 12.04.4 LTS with trusty HWE, for some reason my kernel is being held back to <IP_ADDRESS>.28
[17:50] <sputnik13> I need to update to <IP_ADDRESS>.30 or later
[17:50] <sputnik13> apt-cache policy says 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ for <IP_ADDRESS>.30
[17:50] <sputnik13> anyone know how to resolve this?
[17:51] <WeiJunLi> can someone help me with this error - http://bpaste.net/show/a84011a39487     (when i run an .exe file)
[17:52] <RoBo_V> guys im trying to install ubuntu on 54GB (Primary) alongside windows 8. I think 50GB is enough right? Secondly, it asking for bootloader instlaation - drive has to be same where winods loader is located ?
[17:52] <RoBo_V> windows*
[17:53] <pbx> WeiJunLi, what .exe file? Has it ever worked?
[17:54] <WeiJunLi> pbx: i am trying to run a program, it is works in windows
[17:54] <WeiJunLi> its the first time i am trying to run it in ubuntu
[17:54] <sputnik13> ugh bleh, nevermind, figured it out
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> sputnik13  try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-lts-trusty
[17:55] <pbx> WeiJunLi, were you led to believe it would run under ubuntu? what kind of preparation did you do?
[17:55] <sakamop> RoBo_V: Well, Ubuntu would run fine on 6 GB but you'd need to be carefuly about what you downloaded. I recommen anything over 16 GB. I'm using a chromebook with ubuntu and a 16 GB SSD. It's fine.
[17:55] <sputnik13> MonkeyDust: it ended up being apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:55] <WeiJunLi> pbx: well I dont know... I have other exe files running without problems why this cant work?
[17:57] <pbx> WeiJunLi, i have no idea what the code is so i have no idea what its chances of working are.  i think your best bet is to look for someone else who has run this specific executable under ubuntu.
[17:58] <WeiJunLi> pbx: you cant identify the problem by seeing the error?
[17:58] <cpined> Hello, I used gparted to delete my windows OS, leaving only my Ubuntu OS.  How can I claim that 15 gigs to Ubuntu?  I don't want it as a separate volume.
[17:59] <pbx> WeiJunLi, i don't know anything about windows.   i think you are going to need to take a more active role in researching how/whether this program can run on ubuntu.  try searching for information about this specific program
[17:59] <running_rabbit07> WeiJunLi, if you are using Wine to run your exe, then you may find better help at #wine
[17:59] <pbx> and yeah, what the rabbit said :)
[18:00] <WeiJunLi> running_rabbit07: you mean #winehq - thats the most dead channel i have ever seen
[18:01] <running_rabbit07> The folks there helped me the other day. WeiJunLi
[18:02] <RoBo_V> sakamop: ok thanks
[18:02] <running_rabbit07> Personally, if you have a bunch of MS software you need to run and can't find a linux alternative, then maybe Windows is the way to go. WeiJunLi
[18:06] <sakamop> WeiJunLi: Which program is this? Someone else might have documented the issue.
[18:14] <qwerkus> Given all the random freeze I experienced, I decided to do a clean reinstall to try to figure out the problem. Turns out I can't even do this: the (gui) installation script keeps crashing. Is there a way to install via liveCD in txt mode ?
[18:15] <darksis> Hello i need please help about error i get how i can fix this please
[18:15] <darksis>  libpq++.h
[18:15] <pbx> darksis, use a pastebin to share the error text
[18:15] <darksis> checking for libpq++.h... configure: error: Unable to find libpq++.h
[18:16] <darksis> when i try configure something i get this message
[18:16] <pbx> and include context.  what specifically were you trying to do? share the terminal session via pastebin, including your commands and the resulting errors
[18:16] <darksis> ok but how i fix this?
[18:17] <darksis> something command?
[18:17] <pbx> darksis, i'm not holding any secret information, i'm trying to help you ask a question that will get good answers
[18:18] <darksis> ok
[18:18] <darksis> i try run something and i get error everytime
[18:19] <darksis> i happy to know how i can fix this please
[18:20] <darksis> pbx?
[18:21] <kbennett4> what has happened to package manager
[18:21] <RoBo_V> Guys, swap space neccessary, have 8GB ram ?
[18:21] <pbx> darksis, read what i wrote.  use a pastebin to give us a complete copy of the terminal session, including what command you ran and what errors resulted.  give lots of context. then wait.
[18:21] <pbx> kbennett4, please be more specific
[18:21] <Lunario> how can I configure my ubuntu ssh server to use / as a starting directory when I access it from other clients, instead of using /home/username ?
[18:22] <akis> hi, please take a look at my problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/8225628/
[18:22] <kbennett4> none of software in it appeare y more
[18:24] <djdr1988> anyone here familiar with wine? Or do I need to go to another channel?
[18:25] <llutz> Lunario: you could add "cd /"  to ~/.bashrc  (whyever you want that)
[18:25] <phylock> djdr1988 - its possible, ask away
[18:26] <djdr1988> i just installed wine, I am new to all of this linux stuff, I tried doing a web search on how to use it, but I only found help on older version of wine. I can't figure out how to Install a program through it,I have added a program to wine, but it doesnt run installer or store it
[18:26] <Lunario> llutz: Thanks. But at which part of the .bashrc file do I have to add cd /?
[18:27] <llutz> Lunario: at the end
[18:27] <Lunario> Ok, will try
[18:27] <darksis> pbx
[18:27] <darksis> take
[18:27] <darksis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8225661/
[18:27] <blackangelpr> djdr1988, Try play on linux  more easy to start with
[18:27] <blackangelpr> djdr1988, http://www.playonlinux.com/en/
[18:28] <djdr1988> does it do the same as wine?
[18:28] <bprompt> RoBo_V:     depends on what you;d be running.. I have 6gbs... and have a 1.2gbs swap file, but likely I may not use it most of the time.... however if say running vbox or some other app that may require more resources... then a swap file can come in handy
[18:28] <phylock> djdr1988 - its a wine frontend
[18:28] <blackangelpr> djdr1988,  yes more easy with a nice gui
[18:28] <djdr1988> ok. I will give it a try. Thanks guys
[18:28] <pbx> darksis, read what i wrote. you didn't include what command you ran.  you didn't give any information about what you are trying to do.
[18:28] <RoBo_V> bprompt: ty, I will give it 2GB
[18:29] <phylock> djdr1988 - else take a look at www.winehq.org, https://www.winehq.org/docs/wineusr-guide/running-wine
[18:29] <Lunario> llutz: Do I have to restart the machine afterwards?
[18:30] <Lunario> because so far nothing has changed
[18:31] <Beldar> djdr1988, Might help to know of the #winehq channel, as well wine has limitations, personally I would dual boot windows for use of some things.
[18:32] <WeiJunLi> I installed wine32 but I've another wine by default which may be 64bit, how can I run a program using the wine32?
[18:32] <djdr1988> i was going to, but after windows crashed on this laptop, i have been unable to reinstall windows, it keeps freezing install. I was able to get ubuntu working with a little help on this channel
[18:32] <llutz> Lunario: just login again via ssh
[18:33] <blackangelpr> WeiJunLi, wine channel #winehq as Beldar mention
[18:33] <Beldar> djdr1988, If you have a legit activation key, MS will get you a install discs at a small price, and even a new key if needed.
[18:34] <djdr1988> ok, I will have to contact them and see what they will do. Thank You
[18:35] <blackangelpr> new laptops have the serial on chips on the mother board just download the iso and install windows they do not even ask for serial since its on the board :P weird but it happened to me already while helping some one
[18:35] <djdr1988> How do I figure out the version name of ubuntu I am running?
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> djdr1988  cat /etc/issue
[18:35] <djdr1988> MonkeyDust: Im not sure what that means. Im still new to linux
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> djdr1988  open a terminal, then type that
[18:36] <blackangelpr> crlt +alt+ t
[18:36] <blackangelpr> then ctrl +shift +v
[18:37] <djdr1988> ok, so as far as knowing which playonlinux to download, as far as trusty or saucy....how do i know which one it is?
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> djdr1988  saucy is dead, so it must be trusty (or precise for 12.04)
[18:38] <blackangelpr> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[18:38] <blackangelpr>
[18:38] <blackangelpr> Trusty Tahr
[18:38] <blackangelpr>
[18:38] <blackangelpr> Rel
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> djdr1988  so what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[18:38] <blackangelpr>
[18:38] <unopaste> blackangelpr you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:38] <djdr1988> it is 14.04.1 LTS
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> djdr1988  great, that's trusty
[18:39] <djdr1988> ok. Thank You
[18:39] <blackangelpr> djdr1988, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[18:41] <Lunario> llutz: Is there also a way to do the same thing for my sftp server?
[18:41] <djdr1988> when typing in the commands to download playonlinux, in one of the lines, it shows a vertical line seperating a section of code, how do I do that? I dont think its lowercase L or I
[18:43] <blackangelpr> |  ?
[18:43] <llutz> Lunario: idk, you might look at the ChrootDirectory option in sshd_config maybe
[18:43] <djdr1988> yes
[18:43] <blackangelpr> shift + \
[18:43] <blackangelpr> top key of enter
[18:43] <Lunario> alright
[18:43] <blackangelpr> if you have a english keyboard
[18:45] <pbx> is there a way to bring all of an application's windows forward at once?
[18:45] <pbx> (in unity)
[18:46] <Mildreath> Hii guys!! :*
[18:46]  * AcidRain2012 hits alt+tab in gnome2
[18:46] <blackangelpr> (O_O) not that i know :P you can ask
[18:46] <AcidRain2012> idk how to do it in unity
[18:46] <blackangelpr> hi there Mildreath
[18:46] <Mildreath> hehe How are you?? Blackangelpr
[18:47] <pbx> alt-tab lets me select an application, but only foregrounds one of its windows if it has several open
[18:47] <chan89> alt-`
[18:47] <blackangelpr> Mildreath, great thanks :) watching a sc2 tournament and the chat :)
[18:48] <Mildreath> aah ok
[18:48] <pbx> chan89, alt-` lets me flip through previews of the open windows, but when one is chosen only that one is brought forward
[18:48] <chan89> hmm yeah pbx..
[18:50] <Mildreath> Nadie que quiera charlar??
[18:51] <blackangelpr> Mildreath, envia en privado :P
[18:51] <Mildreath> Ah ok
[18:51] <davidrsmorris> Chrooted into system broken mid-release-upgrade.  Can't get all the tex related packages uninstalled, and they're hanging up the update.  How do I tell the system to remove packages with a missing dependency?
[18:57] <blackangelpr> davidrsmorris, http://askubuntu.com/questions/263378/how-to-fix-dependencies-broken-packages
[18:57] <blackangelpr> davidrsmorris, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html
[18:57] <blackangelpr> hope it helps
[18:59] <adama_> slt
[19:00] <asher1> help please
[19:01] <blackangelpr> asher1, where is the question ?
[19:01] <davidrsmorris> does anyone know what display manager 14.04 is supposed to use?
[19:02] <blackangelpr> X
[19:02] <blackangelpr> mir is still not deployed on any LTS
[19:02] <adama_> slhygjghy
[19:02] <blackangelpr> i guess you use ubuntu since you are on the chat
[19:02] <asher1> about my question is i have problem with something i try to install and i get error
[19:02] <blackangelpr> adama_,  ??
[19:03] <Beldar> davidrsmorris, compiz if unity
[19:03] <asher1> and this error what i get
[19:03] <asher1> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[19:04] <Beldar> asher1, How are you installing?
[19:04] <AcidRain2012> NetSplit Detected: *.net *.split.
[19:04] <adama_> yes i now
[19:05] <AcidRain2012> lol. that full system backup i started a few hrs ago is still going on
[19:05] <blackangelpr> AcidRain2012, it worth it :)
[19:05] <Beldar> AcidRain2012, keep it to support please, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[19:06] <asher1> i install something for ircd
[19:06] <AcidRain2012> i was stating that incase anyone needed full system backup support
[19:06] <asher1> and i get error from configure