[00:00] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: i'm having an issue with standard TTY, and grub boot splash
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> Schuenemann: you could boot to normal gnome and run the netbook launcher UI
[00:01] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, did u take a look at this? http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?p=489752
[00:01] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, if that's correct for those 4-5 lines -- option dpi would have an effect..
[00:01] <scarleo> guiri: Yeay, that's the user groups, you can do all that from terminal instead, don't know if there's a gui for it in Oneiric
[00:01] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, u can pastebinit ur xorg.conf file
[00:01] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: it'd have an effect for grub?
[00:01] <prodigalN00b> x is displaying perfectly fine, that isn't my issue man
[00:02] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, kms
[00:02] <prodigalN00b> huh?
[00:02] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, it can have an effect on tty1-6
[00:02] <prodigalN00b> http://paste.ubuntu.com/712627/
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> Schuenemann: I believe if you press ALT+F2 and run: netbook-launcher
[00:03] <guiri> scarleo: Oh cool.  'users-admin' in term seems to be it
[00:03] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: ^^^ yeah i could see that, but really i think the issue starts sooner than X
[00:03] <scarleo> guiri: great
[00:03] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: it's not like i often need to go to a tty, but i tihnk it looks ugly as it boots up in grub (it's just white with black blocks)
[00:03] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, is that the xorg.conf made from X -configure from yesterday?
[00:04] <Schuenemann> ActionParsnip, it says X error of failed request: BadLength
[00:04] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: it's the one that the nvidia configurator built
[00:04] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, line 155 -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/712616/
[00:04] <LaoLang_cool> hello, can I set the xft font in  more black color? I've set foreground to black, still want it a  little more black...
[00:04] <bnmorgan> holy crap i think i'm in over my head.
[00:05] <slade--> I just upgraded to the new version of ubuntu and i lost /usr/lib/libuuid.so  cant figure out how to get it back.. any advice?
[00:05] <bnmorgan> could someone walk me through creating a VM to run windoze in?
[00:06] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, try this->
[00:06] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: i can see that being an issue, sorta.. except that X is workgin fine.. i feel like you're hung up on something that i'm not concerned about, i really just want grub to look right when booting
[00:06] <bnmorgan> pref in a direct window so that I don't irritate everyone else with my stupid questions.
[00:06] <prodigalN00b> yagoo after that lightdm is taking over and looks fine
[00:07] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, http://pastebin.com/wTa9LsNc .. add option dpi..
[00:07] <scarleo> bnmorgan: just install VirtualBox, it's pretty self-explanatory
[00:07] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, restart lightdm from tty1 -- (u dont need to reboot ur machine)
[00:07] <share> is there a website to talk about technology?
[00:07] <share> oops
[00:07] <share> IRC channel
[00:08] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, when lightdm starts.. see if tty1 looks fine
[00:08] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: right now the only way i can see anything outside of X is via ssh
[00:08] <david_yadin> Hi, i've installed the Gnome-shell and now i'm having this pixel-like errors on screen. whenever there's some kind of animation or mouse activity, it turns into this pixels
[00:08] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: but i can restart it from there
[00:08] <bnmorgan> alright. thank you
[00:08] <msponge> does someone have a 2011 Macbook Pro 15" with Lion that successfully installed Ubuntu AFTER installing Lion?
[00:08] <david_yadin> does anyone knows how to fix it?
[00:09] <cajunspice> david_yadin, sounds like hardware problems, or at least a driver problem
[00:09] <cajunspice> david_yadin, what video chipset are you using?
[00:09] <CarlFK> service gdm restart - used to work, whats the new way to restart X?
[00:09] <Lady-34> msponge: i have a g3 and i can run ubuntu 10.4 live so far because i have no har drive for it at the time,,im just missing the wifi driver
[00:09] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: so 1) the warning no longer shows in the xorg log, 2) tty1 still looks nasty
[00:10] <Calangao> This 11.10 layout is killing me. Can anyone help me get rid of this side menu and back to the 11.04 upper bar menu?
[00:10] <david_yadin> cajuspice, I'm using a Geforce 9500 gt. Do I have to reinstall all the drivers?
[00:10] <Lady-34> Calangao: im sorry to tell u but there is no going back
[00:10] <scarleo> CarlFK: Maybe you are running lightdm instead?
[00:10] <msponge> rEFIt will boot from different devices, but the USB stick and USB DVD drive will show one or two lines from the ubuntu installer and either freeze at "Loading Boot Image" or claim that an image checksum doesn't match. Problem is that the images are verified to work on other (non-Mac) computers
[00:11] <prodigalN00b> !notunity
[00:11] <whoaa> Calango I'm trying to go back to the old menu too
[00:11] <Lady-34> Calangao: u have the option to install the gnome-shell and select genome at boot
[00:11] <doornumber9> Calangao: I had the same problem. Have you considered switching to Xfce?
[00:11] <cajunspice> david_yadin, you might have to, but probably it's something a reinstall won't help, like the driver being not entirely compatible with the video chipset
[00:11] <JetJagurXP> yagoo  So far so good.  Installed newer nvidia driver and computer boots into X correctly.
[00:11] <CarlFK> scarleo: right - thanks.
[00:11] <yagoo> JetJagurXP, cool
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> gotta love nvidia
[00:12] <RyuGuns> ATI>NVidia
[00:12] <JetJagurXP> yagoo  Trying to adjust dual monitors now.
[00:12] <RyuGuns> :P
[00:12] <Calangao> omg, no going back? Thanks Lady-34 and doonumber9.
[00:12] <magpii> arkanaid, i am getting this message when i try running those commands http://codepad.org/qQkziLAG
[00:13] <Lady-34> im just cant figure out how to dim this backligh,,is blinding me and sucking my battery like crazy
[00:13] <goober> !unity
[00:14] <Calangao> I wish they didn't change where you find all your applications in every single update.
[00:14] <doornumber9> Calangao: if you run "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop", it'll install the xubuntu packages. Then you can choose which session to use after you boot. You can always switch back and forth until you decide which you prefer.
[00:14] <Lady-34> but it happend on all linux distros,,is a gateway M-Series 73
[00:14] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: any other tricks?
[00:14] <Calangao> doornumber9: I'll try that. Thanks
[00:15] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, did u try turning of kms? Boot with the nouveau.modeset=0 kernel command line parameter.
[00:15] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting
[00:15] <Lady-34> Calangao: so do i,is a mess looking for apps,,instead of making a shortcut for every category on the bar,they just blended all in 1 single huge menu
[00:15] <slade--> hmm this channel seems to focus mostly on the UI and gnome and stuff
[00:15] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: ok cool, let me try that
[00:15] <slade--> there a better channel for asking questions like the one i was asking?
[00:16] <yagoo> slade--, alot of new comers..
[00:16] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: hmm, it says to blacklist it for nvidia cards, which i already have
[00:16] <scarleo> Lady-34: Calangao Try "Filter results" next to search bar in Dash
[00:17] <JetJagurXP> Crap, gotta run nvidia-settings manually since it's not part of the distro
[00:17] <Lady-34> is there a command to dim lights ?
[00:17] <yagoo> slade--, dpkg -L uuid-runtime
[00:17] <slade--> its already installed..
[00:17] <scarleo> Lady-34: Calangao It's pretty much as it used to be with categories
[00:17] <JetJagurXP> Ok.  Still not working.
[00:18] <slade--> yagoo: ack that doesnt have the .so in it anymoire
[00:18] <Lady-34> scarleo: i cant make my own shortcuts any more
[00:18] <yagoo> slade--, dpkg -L libuuid1
[00:18] <Lady-34> like i was used too
[00:18] <slade--> wow they sure movesd things around..
[00:18] <JetJagurXP> 2nd monitor looks like old style X.  Cursor is even an x, not a pointy thing.
[00:18] <scarleo> Lady-34: Yes you can, drag whatever app you want to the launcher
[00:18] <Generalcamo> Oh yy
[00:18] <Generalcamo> Yay
[00:18] <Generalcamo> I got my internet back
[00:19] <JetJagurXP> Can't drag a window to the second monitor...
[00:19] <yagoo> slade--, ldconfig --help
[00:19] <slade--> hmm thats installed too and still problems
[00:19] <Generalcamo> OK, how do I connect to a wireless network in ubuntu?
[00:19] <Roasted> So I'm dealing with a stubborn install of 11.10. I keep getting repository errors when I try to update and whatnot. Here's the odd part - I even reinstalled 11.10, SAME problems.
[00:19] <fubared> How do I tell which is my btrfs / partition from live cd (trying recovery)
[00:19] <fubared> ?
[00:19] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: lol i can't even get into the grub boot menu ... i tap esc non stop and it never goes into it :S ... actually i'm not too concerned about that.. trying to get my nameserver configurd correctly.. too much crap on here messign with basic settings
[00:19] <Roasted> fubared, system monitor I think?
[00:19] <Roasted> fubared, I think it says the file system type but I'm not sure
[00:19] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, not.
[00:19] <Lady-34> scarleo: how can i add a root terminal to the bar without using the terminal ?
[00:19] <prodigalN00b> not what
[00:19] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, You are supposed to edit /etc/default/grub
[00:19] <Calangao> scarleo: I figured that already. But I was already used with all my applications organized and this side bar is way too big and keeps hiding when I want to see it and popping up when I don't.
[00:20] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, then update-grub2
[00:20] <JetJagurXP> I'm going back to Natty...
[00:20] <share> o.o
[00:20] <JetJagurXP> Thanks folks.
[00:20] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: yeah i just didn't want to have it break and not have a working grub entry
[00:20] <fubared> Roasted: Not for unmounted file systems
[00:20] <share> Im going back to Win98
[00:20] <Roasted> fubared, hmm, try gparted
[00:20] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, it won't break anything.. update-grub2 uses /etc/default/grub to update grub.cfg
[00:20] <Roasted> share, thats pro
[00:20] <JetJagurXP> Good luck with that share
[00:21] <scarleo> Lady-34: That's pretty redundant, ctrl+alt+T and do sudo
[00:21] <venomcode> ocelot is good if you know how to tune the drivers
[00:21] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: yes i know, i meant the mod that i'm making... i'll give it a whirl
[00:21] <yagoo> fubared, file -s /dev/<partitiondevice>
[00:21] <venomcode> hey yagoo i figured out my keyboard light problem
[00:21] <JetJagurXP> venomcode Well, I'm using it as virtual machine host.  Don't have time to mess with the drivers.
[00:22] <Calangao> I have to reboot now. Thanks.
[00:22] <mrwizeguy1983> if only tocia was here, i figured out the solution to the issue he and i both had
[00:22] <number34> i just installed ubuntu 11.10 on a laptop i purchased today and compiz seemed to be working just fine, i install the proper drivers via the addtional drivers program and now its broken, any help would be appreciated
[00:22] <mrwizeguy1983> is there anyone in here that's here a lot and can pass on a solution?
[00:22] <fubared> yagoo: thanks
[00:22] <yagoo> venomcode, that the hp model?
[00:22] <venomcode> in a virtual machine ocelot isnt the same as a host OS
[00:22] <yagoo> fubared, np
[00:22] <venomcode> works better as Host
[00:22] <venomcode> for me at least
[00:22] <number34> also, in the systems info under graphics it says driver unknown
[00:23] <JetJagurXP> I'm using VirtualBox anyway so it don't matter
[00:23] <number34> so if it didn't even install it why did it even break compiz
[00:23] <Lady-34> scarleo: password issues
[00:23] <yagoo> fubared, the fdisk -l doesn't give enought hints? (btw what partition id is fine for btrfs ?)
[00:23] <meowsus> Is there a linux command to search the contents of a bunch of text files in a directory? Kind of like "find" but that will search actual text inside the files?
[00:23] <cajunspice> "grep"
[00:23] <scarleo> Lady-34: What?
[00:23] <yagoo> meowsus, grep -Ri <word> .
[00:23] <CarlFK> meowsus: find .. -exec grep foo {} \;
[00:23] <number34> any help would be much appreciated
[00:24] <slade--> yagoo: weird it must be working right otherwise cron wouldnt be working.. i wonder why i dont have a /usr/lib/libuuid.so
[00:24] <ppcblaster> I just installed 11.10 and in the Launcher is a box at the top "Install Release" What is it? I clicked install and it wanted to install Ubuntu again and ask something about "Unmount", Please explain
[00:24] <fubared> yagoo: I found it.
[00:24] <fubared> meowsus: ack-grep
[00:24] <cajunspice> slade, it could be someplace else
[00:24] <yagoo> slade--, it's not weird. man ldconfig.. that gives ya a hint
[00:24] <Qation> For some reason on my volume settings it show that the Connecter section is switching from Analog Output to Analog Headphones very rapidly and this is causing my volume to be going up and down very fast. Anyway to fix it?
[00:24] <slade--> g++ -Wall -g  -levent -luuid    <-- the luuid doesnt complain..
[00:25] <JetJagurXP> It's cool that the Command Bar will "minimize" when the Displays utility is run.  Wish it could be set to minimize automatically.
[00:25] <number34> driver questions are apparently tricky and to be ignored
[00:25] <jrib> !helpme | number34
[00:25] <number34> haha, fair enough
[00:26] <number34> back to google
[00:26] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: ok, you got me in the right direction.. that value didn't fix it, but setting the GRUB_GFXMODE did
[00:26] <Lady-34> number34: whats the question ?
[00:26] <venomcode> !help
[00:26] <Qation> Anyone know how I can fix my problem? I can't watch any videos without it sounding like its skipping
[00:26] <number34> i just bought a laptop and installed ubuntu, everything was fine, i tz is brokehen installed the proper drivers for the graphics card via the addtional drivers app and then rebooted and now compi
[00:26] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, u might as well try a nicer one for tty -- u can try vga=ask on the bootline
[00:27] <ppcblaster> I just installed 11.10 and in the Launcher is a box at the top "Install Release" What is it? I clicked install and it wanted to install Ubuntu again and ask something about "Unmount", So I cancelled it. Please explain
[00:27] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, using vga=<> prevents kms for tty1-6 i believe
[00:27] <slade--> yagoo: hmm its pointing to  /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libuuid.so.1  which is referenced indirectly in /etc/ld.so.conf   but its still not making the file..
[00:27] <number34> under systems info under graphics it says driver unknown though, if they didn't even install i'm curious as to how it broke compiz
[00:27] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: sorry, i don't quite follow
[00:27] <yagoo> slade--, why are u asking me to debug ? use strace..
[00:27] <prodigalN00b> vga=ask does what exactly? (it's been soo long since i've messed with xorg stuff.. like beryl days)
[00:28] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, "vga=ask" << literally can be passed on the kernel bootline
[00:28] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, u'll see what i mean..
[00:28] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: but will it prompt me on boot? cuz i don't want that
[00:28] <Lady-34> number34: what is it a nVidia X server
[00:28] <slade--> yagoo: sorry, unfamiliar with this wacky library system
[00:28] <number34> its a amd card
[00:28] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, a list is give of textual terminal dimensions.. (it probes)-- u can then find the value u like.. then change vga=<that value>
[00:28] <prodigalN00b> oh i see
[00:29] <number34> amd xeymour 512mb
[00:29] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, i think using this method.. is better than using vgatextmode application
[00:29] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: so revert all that what i did before? or keep it since it's displaying something
[00:30] <D-coy> m4v, help me hdp xD!
[00:30] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, no need to revert .. u can add on to it
[00:30] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: oohh shit that broke it.. says "ask" parameter no longer supported, and fails to boot
[00:30] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, vga= is only for textual console.
[00:30] <imduffy15> Hi, could somebody tell me why this won't set the title in a putty window for a screen session: PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne "\033]0;${USER}@${HOSTNAME}: ${PWD/$HOME/~}\007"'
[00:30] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, it does?
[00:30] <yagoo> lol
[00:30] <prodigalN00b> yuup
[00:31] <Lady-34> number34: run this on a terminal and tell me the output please lspci -nn | grep VGA
[00:31] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, probably a ubuntu mod of the kern..
[00:31] <prodigalN00b> it's fine, it dropped back to the selector
[00:31] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, so just yank it out..
[00:31] <prodigalN00b> it said it's legacy and no longer supported
[00:31] <ixxu> hi, my laptop crashed while updating to the new kernel version. there where 2 java application running, which it seems the system couldn't close. after seeing it "refreshing" for about 1hours (eta for update was 10mins) i decided to power off the system hard. now i can't boot it anymore. even with live-cd's other than ubuntu. possible there is a hardwarecrash ?!
[00:31] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, oh really
[00:31] <prodigalN00b> is there anything i should run here like vbeinfo?
[00:31] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, i'll try that on my machine..
[00:31] <ppcblaster> I just installed 11.10 and in the Launcher is a box at the top "Install Release" What is it? I clicked install and it wanted to install Ubuntu again and ask something about "Unmount", So I cancelled it. Please explain
[00:32] <number34> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0116] (rev 09)
[00:32] <number34> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc NI Seymour [AMD Radeon HD 6470M] [1002:6760]
[00:32] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, how high can u get GRUB_GFXMODE ?
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> ppcblaster: uninstall ubiquity, sounds like your installer didn't finish
[00:32] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: just did vbeinfo, looks like i can do 0x11b (1280x1024x32)
[00:32] <prodigalN00b> would i do vga=0x11b?
[00:32] <number34> would i need to uninstall the intel graphics controller for the amd card to work?
[00:33] <prodigalN00b> actually i don't want that high of a resolution, too hard to see on a 55" at 7ft away
[00:33] <Lady-34> number34: you installed the wrong driver i figure,,because ubuntu identify you hardware
[00:33] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, did it complain only about "vga=ask" or can it do vga=<specific value" ?
[00:33] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, ya u can do vga=0x11b
[00:33] <prodigalN00b> it just complained about vga=ask, but i haven't tried otherwise, bout to now
[00:33] <Lady-34> number34: try that but remove the one you installed first
[00:34] <Antisoche> I'm unable to connect to a samba share I created through dolphin.  I 'smbpasswd'-ed my user account but I'm getting NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED.  I set debug to 255 and it's finding my account and the correct path, but says "make_connection: connection to projects denied due to security descriptor."  This is simple Linux->Linux using smbclient. I did a 'net usershare' with 'Everyone:d,BOX\\user:f guest_ok=n'.  I can get readonly access but
[00:34] <Antisoche>  I want full access to authenticated me.  Can anyone help?
[00:34] <ppcblaster> What is ppcblaster: uninstall ubiquity ?
[00:34] <number34> what if the one i installed is correct? could i uninstall the other one to find out? and how would i go about that?
[00:34] <maletor> Whenever I reboot since upgrade to Oneiric I get a purple screen without anything else. I need to hit the restart button and that takes me to GRUB for a successful boot. How can I fix?
[00:34] <ixxu> sometimes i can boot into ubuntu, but with very fucked up graphics and no mouse or tasta supported
[00:34] <Lady-34> number34: did you restart after installation ?
[00:35] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: would i put that 0x11b in the GRUB_GFXMODE, or vga= in the kernel line in the default/grub
[00:35] <number34> yep
[00:35] <ixxu> same is when going to choose the version of the livecds i tried
[00:35] <ppcblaster> What is uninstall ubiquity ?
[00:35] <Lady-34> number34: so please remove the driver you installed and try intel driver
[00:35] <number34> it works fine with the intel driver
[00:35] <Qation> In my sound preferences window, the Connector: on the output tab is switching rapidly from Analog Output to analog Headphones and rapidly changing my volume. Is there a way to fix this?
[00:36] <number34> thats what it was using before
[00:36] <maletor> Whenever I reboot since upgrade to Oneiric I get a purple screen without anything else. I need to hit the restart button and that takes me to GRUB for a successful boot. How can I fix?
[00:36] <number34> but since i have the amd card i would like to utilize it
[00:36] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, GRUB_CMDLINE_LNUX i guess
[00:36] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX
[00:37] <scarleo> Antisoche: Can you paste your /etc/samba/smb.conf from the server
[00:37] <prodigalN00b> i just tried it in the GRUB_GFXMODE, bout to see how it generates
[00:37] <number34> i'm gonna try some things, thanks for all your help lady-34
[00:37] <semitones> maletor: since no one else has tried to help you yet, you could try booting without 'quiet splash' and see if you notice anyhing
[00:37] <ppcblaster> I just installed 11.10 and in the Launcher is a box at the top "Install Release" What is it? I clicked install and it wanted to install Ubuntu again and ask something about "Unmount", So I cancelled it. Please explain what I need to do
[00:37] <scarleo> Antisoche: in a pastebin that is
[00:38] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, i see vbetool.. but no vbeinfo here
[00:38] <Antisoche> scarleo: Thanks, but I just got it.  If I set 'Everyone:r' it works.  I get full access with my account.
[00:38] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: in grub, run vbeinfo
[00:38] <scarleo> Antisoche: great
[00:38] <Antisoche> scarleo: Can't say that makes sense or that I like what it implies, but I can deal with it.
[00:38] <lazarus_> what is online accounts used for in settings in 111.10
[00:39] <lazarus_> what is online accounts used for in settings in 11.10*
[00:39] <grungekid> ppcblaster: make sure you take your disk out agter install
[00:39] <scarleo> lazarus_: to connect your google account
[00:39] <grungekid> after*
[00:39] <Lady-34> number34: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver  they have some references ther you might waht to see
[00:39] <number34> thanks
[00:39] <Lady-34> u wlcm
[00:39] <lazarus_> scarleo: yes but what does it actully allow you to do
[00:39] <maletor> Whenever I reboot since upgrade to Oneiric I get a purple screen without anything else. I need to hit the restart button and that takes me to GRUB for a successful boot. How can I fix?
[00:40] <scarleo> lazarus_: sync a lot of stuff, like mail, calendar, contacts etc
[00:40] <Lady-34> maletor: try run sudo apt-get update-grub and see
[00:40] <Lady-34> sudo update-grub ups
[00:41] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, u should know that grub2 has modules.. i never looked into addon modules for video-- i also dont know how grub video mode would carry into tty terminals
[00:41] <histo> maletor: it works after your reboot? What are you talking about for a successful boot?
[00:41] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, u should disable to kms if u want to use any vga=
[00:42] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: yeah i am (you mean nouveau.modeset=0 right?)
[00:42] <Lady-34> why if my graphis are supported by linux i cant dimm my light ? any solution for this ?
[00:42] <maletor> histo: yeah it works after i hard reset
[00:42] <ppcblaster> sudo apt-get purge ubiquity* is this correct?
[00:42] <maletor> Lady-34: i will try that
[00:42] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: it doesn't seem to work as well if i do vga=### as well as GRUB_GFXMODE="1024x768"
[00:43] <jierdin> hey
[00:43] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, i dont see any differenc on here too
[00:43] <histo> maletor: if it works when you start the computer what's the issue/
[00:43] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, try seeing if there's a grub2 module for video
[00:44] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: might try that later.. right now wifey's etting irritated i keep rebooting
[00:44] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, ls -la /boot/grub/ shows modules for video
[00:44] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: i think she wants to watch a show :P
[00:44] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, pull out the pc speaker..
[00:44] <yagoo> lol
[00:44] <prodigalN00b> no the pc i'm rebooting is the one she wants to watch a show on
[00:44] <yagoo> lol
[00:44] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, but are the show no?
[00:44] <yagoo> u
[00:44] <yagoo> :)
[00:45] <strigoi> ck strigoi
[00:45] <prodigalN00b> heh, at times
[00:45] <tWiZtEr> apt-get isntall system-config-lvm isnt working
[00:45] <tWiZtEr> online guides say to get it like that
[00:46] <tWiZtEr> system-config-lvm package not found, wtf?
[00:46] <tWiZtEr> i have multiple guides saying it exists
[00:47] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: thanks for the help man.. i might bug you again later :P you're good at this hardcore gui stuff
[00:47] <Arkaniad> tWiZtEr: Perhaps the guides are outdated?
[00:47] <yagoo> prodigalN00b, been using linux longtime
[00:47] <Generalcamo> How do I connect ubuntu to a wireless network
[00:47] <tWiZtEr> probably, this is fucked
[00:47] <drahst> anyone have any ubuntu-server 10.04 experience? I've got kvm up and running on two chassis, can connect via qemu+ssh, but cannot migrate
[00:47] <Generalcamo> and fix my mouse
[00:47] <|Slacker|> alright...i installed kubuntu-desktop then asked softwre center to remove it, but kde's still installed
[00:48] <Arkaniad> Generalcamo: Click the network panel up top right
[00:48] <|Slacker|> how do I remove it?
[00:48] <Arkaniad> Generalcamo: Providing you have wireless drivers the access points should be in a list.
[00:48] <Generalcamo> I cannot click, as my mouse is broken
[00:48] <Generalcamo> Well, touch pad
[00:48] <Generalcamo> I need to know how to get that to work
[00:48] <Generalcamo> It worked in natty
[00:48] <prodigalN00b> yagoo: i go in and out of it every few years... been doing windows and basic debian administration for our clients... pretty basic really, but i play with kernels n stuff... the gui stuff has always been a trick for me
[00:48] <scarleo> tWiZtEr: it's there in mine, try sudo apt-cache search system-config
[00:48] <Generalcamo> Wireless too
[00:49] <tocia> slacker: did you reboot?
[00:49] <|Slacker|> yup
[00:49] <|Slacker|> just rebooted
[00:49] <Generalcamo> How do I connect to a wireless network, without a mouse
[00:50] <sdsheeks> Hello all.  I picked up a cheap HP server and was wondering if it would run 64bit Ubuntu it is HP ProLiant DL380 G3 Dual Xeon 3.06GHz
[00:50] <Arkaniad> Generalcamo: You should try WICD. I'm pretty sure it can do what you need.
[00:50] <sdsheeks> or do i need 32bit with it?
[00:50] <Generalcamo> WICD?
[00:50] <tocia> slacker: try this in the command line http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[00:50] <|Slacker|> tocia, thanks...I'll check
[00:51] <Generalcamo> Define WICD
[00:51] <tWiZtEr> anyone know how to mount an LVM volume that was imported to this VM by attaching a VMDK?
[00:51] <Arkaniad> Generalcamo: Wireless Internet Connection Daemon?
[00:51] <tWiZtEr> i think its corrupte
[00:51] <Generalcamo> How do I find that?
[00:51] <aeon-ltd> sdsheeks: modern xeon? likely 64bit capable then
[00:51] <uxat54> the 11.10 i use doesn't use the new LightDM Loginscreen but the old gdm instead. can someone help me with that?
[00:51] <tocia> slacker, be aware of your release, the link is for 11.10
[00:52] <tocia> on top there are links for the older ones
[00:52] <Markus__> hi
[00:52] <Generalcamo> How do I find the Wireless Internet Connection Deamon
[00:52] <sdsheeks> aeon-ltd: it is dual xeon 3.06/533
[00:53] <sdsheeks> aeon-ltd: I think I just answered the question..i was able to find my previously burnt 64bit copy of server and it errored out (this kernel requires an x86-64 cpu, but only detected an i686
[00:53] <Generalcamo> Hello?
[00:53] <yagoo> twist, install vmware/vmwaretools .. and try using one of the vmware mount commands
[00:54] <yagoo> tWiZtEr, ^
[00:54] <aeon-ltd> sdsheeks: congrats i guess :)
[00:54] <fweezel> the last updates I installed broke my display resolution, how do I fix this?
[00:54] <sharkus> Hello all.
[00:54] <ixxu> i get this screen when i try to recover my system: http://www.xup.in/dl,12813927/thx-ubuntu.JPG/
[00:54] <sdsheeks> aeon-ltd: yea i'll just down the 32bit version.. thanks! ;)
[00:55] <Generalcamo> Guys? How do I fix my laptop's touchpad
[00:55] <Generalcamo> And get WICD?
[00:55] <sharkus> I'm trying to install Ubuntu alongside Windows 7 on an acer laptop. I am not seeing the option to install alongside Windows 7, only options to replace or something else
[00:55] <sharkus> Any ideas why I'm not seeing the install alongside option?
[00:56] <sharkus> this is 11.04 btw
[00:56] <Generalcamo> Hello?
[00:56] <aeon-ltd> Generalcamo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WICD
[00:57] <Generalcamo> Hello?
[00:57] <Generalcamo> Can anyone help me?
[00:58] <tocia> sharkus, during the installation it will ask where to install ubuntu, and you need to choose a partion that's not used
[00:58] <yagoo> sharkus, did u choose "something else" option? see if u can resize ntfs
[00:58] <fweezel> is there a way to force a resolution that it thinks it can't do?
[00:58] <Generalcamo> Unable to locate package WICD
[00:58] <Generalcamo> Why?
[00:59] <yagoo> anyone knows if ntfs can be resized in the ubuntu installer? (for sharkus)
[00:59] <scarleo> sharkus: be careful resize partition with windows on it from Ubuntu, do it from win instead. Windows might get angry
[00:59] <cntrational> When logging in, nothing shows up except my wallpaper when booting into either Gnome Shell or Unity. I'm on the Live USB, what do I do?
[00:59] <yagoo> sharkus, i'm not sure if ntfs can be resized..
[00:59] <yagoo> scarleo, no it won't..
[00:59] <semitones> yagoo: gparted can\\
[00:59] <LinuxCody> I think it can
[00:59] <LinuxCody> I did it
[00:59] <semitones> yagoo: its included on the cd
[00:59] <sharkus> ok, am in/on LiveCD and looking at GParter
[00:59] <yagoo> sharkus, i mean-- i'm not sure if ntfs can be resized with the ubuntu installer-- but it can be with the gparted live cd (sf.net)
[00:59] <yagoo> sharkus, that's perfect..
[00:59] <LinuxCody> And does anyone know how to fix a laptop touchpad on ubuntu Oneiric?
[01:00] <sharkus> main reason for me doing this is Windows is refusing to boot, and it's the wife's lappy and she's had enough of windows so I'm trying for a conversion :D
[01:00] <yagoo> sharkus, and make 2 partitions for linux-- 1 ext4 and the other swap (swap should be 1 gig)
[01:00] <LinuxCody> I cannot use an external mouse, or my laptop's touch pad
[01:00] <uxat54> how can i repair Lightdm on my 11.10 system? it wont work, and gdm is used again..how can i fix this?
[01:01] <LinuxCody> Hello?
[01:01] <yagoo> uxat54, gdm and lightdm dont run at the same time.. u can only have one gui logon daemon (there's much more advanced setups that let u nways..)
[01:01] <scarleo> yagoo: So why this warning: "If you have resized a Windows 7 or Vista partition and cannot boot up windows, you can use the instructions from WindowsRecovery to fix it."
[01:01] <aeon-ltd> LinuxCody: yes?
[01:01] <yagoo> scarleo, use paragon rescue kit
[01:02] <yagoo> scarleo, do u use a 100mb boot partition for bootmgr ?
[01:02] <semitones> scarleo: just in case something happens
[01:02] <yagoo> scarleo, how many ntfs are there?
[01:02] <scarleo> yagoo: No, I was referring to you saying there is no risk in resizing a in partition from Ubuntu
[01:02] <nronflx> OMG what moron designed the UI for 11.10
[01:02] <Generalcamo> Any way that my mouse can be fixed?
[01:03] <scarleo> yagoo: I have no problems whatsoever and would never touch a copy of Windoze
[01:03] <yagoo> scarleo, there isn't .. at least for me there isn't.. I've done this like 20 times.. from XP to Win2008-W2008R2 and Win7.
[01:03] <uxat54> yagoo, i want to use lightdm but it doesnt work anymore since i made some updates. Now it looks like the old login screen..do you know how i can fix this?
[01:03] <sharkus> ok, when I unmount the ACER partition in GParted I see a little red exclamation mark in a circle after /dev/sda2, when I view it it makes mention of a bad sector. I;m guessing that perhaps this might be the reason for a) Windows 7 getting upset, and b) the option to install alongside being missing. Does that sound about right?
[01:03] <yagoo> scarleo, i'm a master at this stuff.
[01:03] <cntrational> nobody?
[01:03] <semitones> sharkus: at my linux installfest we repartitioned from windows
[01:03] <Generalcamo> Is there any other way I can get help for this?
[01:03] <semitones> sharkus: yeah
[01:03] <semitones> sharkus: get a new hdd,unfortunately
[01:03] <scarleo> yagoo: great :)
[01:03] <tocia> sharkus, sounds right for a
[01:04] <tocia> try a chkdsk -f
[01:04] <sharkus> will do
[01:04] <Generalcamo> How can I fix my mouse/touchpad on my laptop?
[01:05] <sharkus> guessing new HDD time though, but hey, it's backed up, well, the worthwhile stuff is, Windows, nope, who needs to backup the OS :D
[01:05] <Luke> I want to run something when lightdm starts... what's the best place to do that?
[01:05] <yagoo> sharkus, that acer partition is a dumb recovery filesystem for reinstal windows..
[01:05] <nronflx> wtf are this guys doing, we are digressing with each released to pre- win 95
[01:05] <yagoo> sharkus, u can ignore that..
[01:05] <CharminTheMoose> wpa_gui is complaining that I can't write the wpa_supplicant.conf file because I don't have update_config=1 in the config file in /etc, which I do. I'm running both apps (both wpa_gui and wpa_supplicant) as root, but still no written config file. Any pointers as to what I'm doing wrong here?
[01:05] <LucidGuy> KVM quesiton:  Attempted a   "virsh save guestname guestname.state"  Seemed like it was doing nothing so I ctrl-D the operation.  The guetname system is now stuck "paused".  I noticed that ksmd is eating up 12% cpu with this only one kvmguest paused.  Could the save still be taking place?  I've tried virsh restart, destroy, and even restarting qemu-kvm with no luck.  GuestKVM still paused and ksmd still eating CPU.   Suggestions?
[01:06] <nronflx> the devs are making ubuntu less and less user friendly
[01:06] <yagoo> sharkus, btw.. if u do fdisk -l .. it may say cylinder boundary doesn't land etc.. this is common and is safe to ignore..
[01:06] <sharkus> yagoo: think it's the actual active partition, as it's 286GB, there is some recovery partition of 11GB,
[01:06] <yagoo> sharkus, that's fine.. u can leave it there
[01:06] <Generalcamo> I agree
[01:06] <semitones> nronflx: do you have a support question?
[01:06] <sharkus> thanks for the help, I'll wander off and bash the thing, sorry, chkdsk it :D
[01:06] <theborger> anyone point me in the direction to install XBMC on 11.04? the readmes i ahve read are not working
[01:06] <Generalcamo> So much that I can't even use my mouse!
[01:06] <nronflx> yeah where is my old user friendly ui
[01:06] <yagoo> sharkus, actually gparted does that..
[01:06] <Generalcamo> By the way, how can I fix that mouse
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> nronflx: kde is pretty much the same for the last 3 or 4 releases...
[01:06] <yagoo> sharkus, it does ntfs check before it resizes..
[01:06] <nronflx> ActionParsnip: no is not
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> theborger: there is an XBMC ppa
[01:07] <sharkus> typical, just shutdown <facepalm>
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> nronflx: same here, maybe its my tweaks
[01:07] <theborger> ActionParsnip: that replaced just xbmc? is there an install guide?
[01:07] <semitones> ActionParsnip: thank god you're here
[01:07] <Generalcamo> Arghh
[01:07] <semitones> so many people with questions
[01:07] <yagoo> sharkus, what sizes u going to make for ext4 and swap?
[01:07] <Generalcamo> I am asking a question that I had since 2 hours ago
[01:07] <Barzogh> nronflx: go try archlinux or gentoo , and you shall see if ubuntu is really less user-friendly ^^
[01:08] <Generalcamo> How do I fix my mouse?
[01:08] <nronflx> if the intent is to lure people into switching to a "as user friendly ui" as windblows, we are missing the target
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> theborger: the ppa only goes up to maverick, but ive had it running from there on Natty without issue
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> theborger: or LXDE, works well
[01:08] <yagoo> Generalcamo, serial?
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> semitones: sup?
[01:08] <semitones> theborger: try googling 'xmbc ppa' you should find a page with instructions
[01:08] <sharkus> yagoo: not sure, what would you recommend?
[01:08] <theborger> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[01:08] <yagoo> sharkus, how much is used on ntfs ?
[01:08] <semitones> ActionParsnip: i'm trying to help people too :)
[01:08] <nronflx> Barzogh: we are talking ubuntu, if i want to discuss those other distros ill go to their channel
[01:09] <uxat54> sudo shutdown -h now
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> semitones: sweet
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> theborger: http://askubuntu.com/questions/41226/install-xbmc-on-natty?amp
[01:09] <Generalcamo> how do I fix my mouse in ubuntu?
[01:09] <Generalcamo> and touchpad
[01:09] <yagoo> Generalcamo, you don't know what type of mouse it is?
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> Generalcamo: what is the make and model of the system please
[01:09] <Generalcamo> Latitude d600
[01:09] <yagoo> Generalcamo, the touchpad point is not a mouse
[01:09] <elbeto> General campo  Preferences---> Mouse
[01:10] <Generalcamo> Already tried that
[01:10] <Generalcamo> Does not even show my touchpad
[01:10] <samruger> hello, im on ubuntu 11.10 and im having trouble with my password. all of a sudden when ever i try to sudo anything my password fails, when i try to reset the password in recoverymode/root with passwd it says authentication token manipulation error. any clue?
[01:10] <Generalcamo> External mouses do not work either
[01:10] <JRandolph> Generalcamo: I'm using a D620
[01:10] <JRandolph> Im having nothing wrong in 11.10
[01:11] <yagoo>     Don't have dial-up, parallel-port, or serial devices, so those are untested
[01:11] <yagoo>     Running into the not-powering off-at-shutdown bug (MattZimmerman: Have you tried the <IP_ADDRESS>-9 kernel? It fixed a similar problem for someone else) (CarlosJHernandez Works fine with 2.6.10-5)
[01:11] <yagoo>     Bluetooth works
[01:11] <yagoo>     The modem needs driver from Linuxant (non-free in any sense). Demo version of the driver seems to work.
[01:11] <yagoo>     BIOS problem, address space collision with IRQs and ACPI trouble. The solution about setting acpi=off makes soundcard and wlan work, but there are some bogus interrupts which will be handled by the wrong device driver. Better solution is to disable parallel port if possible, as BIOS sets it fixed on IRQ 7. Then ACPI (CPU scaling, battery charge indicator, shut down), sound and wlan will
[01:11] <yagoo> work.
[01:11] <FloodBot1> yagoo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:11] <Generalcamo> My touchpad worked in natty narwhal, but broke in oneiric acelot
[01:11] <Generalcamo> Oh my...
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> Generalcamo: run:  gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   and use this guide: http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/11/15/fixing-my-alps-touchpad-with-the-synaptics-driver/
[01:12] <yagoo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell
[01:12] <yagoo> ^ sorry for the paste.
[01:12] <semitones> Generalcamo: my edge scrolling was broken in natty and oneiric. So I just kept maverik
[01:12] <netWoes> can anyone help with resolvconf and dns-nameserver? It seems to not be picking it up? but i'm not sure what's going on...
[01:12] <yagoo> Generalcamo, there's lots of problems with ur laptop.. i suggest u do everything as stated by the url i gave
[01:13] <intelmeth> is there a better place than here to ask a specific question about rinetd  (installed on ubuntu)?
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> netWoes: you can set dns servers in network manager
[01:14] <aymara> how do i set hava sun as default instead of opendjk ?
[01:14] <scarleo> samruger: You have likewise-open? I've read about conflicts there
[01:14] <netWoes> no, i need to use /etc/network/interfaces for setting WoL values when the interface is up...
[01:14] <yagoo> scarleo, you still working on that dualboot fix?
[01:15] <robin0800> with gnome classic in 11.10 if I enable compiz I loose the ability to use the panel settings how to get them back?
[01:15] <netWoes> ActionParsnip: when doing that, i use a static ip config via that file, and the network manager ignores it
[01:15] <netWoes> ActionParsnip: that and i don't have network manager installed
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> aymara: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> netWoes: can you pastebin the interfaces file please
[01:15] <yagoo> aymara, u dont need jdk do you? that's for development and is bigger download)
[01:16] <MonkeyDust> can I somehow save a live session?
[01:16] <scarleo> yagoo: I'm not working on anything and the last thing I would like to have is Windoze on my box :)
[01:16] <netWoes> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/712663/  ... might i also add, it seems to generate the resolv.conf correctly if i manually run /etc/init.d/networking restart... but it's empty on boot... that's my only issue atm
[01:16] <yagoo> scarleo, u dont need to have windows to use ntfs-- i use ntfs on usb to transfer between linux and mac oses
[01:16] <cajunspice> ntfs-3g
[01:17] <Generalcamo> xorg.conf does not exist
[01:17] <aymara> yagoo that's what i'm reading, it's for developers, i installed runtime 6 sun, but need to set it as default
[01:17] <cajunspice> doesnt exist in /etc/X11 ?
[01:17] <semitones> what cvommand idid you use Generalcamo
[01:18] <scarleo> lol
[01:18] <yagoo> aymara, um.. isnt there already a deb in the repo for this? why u downloading directly from sun?
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> netWoes: may help  http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> netWoes: I suggest you uninstall network manager, then it can't stink the place up
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> yagoo: no, its not packaged, nor is it owned by sun
[01:18] <netWoes> ActionParsnip: yeah i've read that up and down, doesn't really get into the nitty detail.. and yeah NM is uninstalled
[01:18] <cajunspice> well, if you have no xorg.conf anywhere, you'll have to make one
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> yagoo: its owned by oracle now, the license for java changed and they don't want or like their java package being packaged
[01:19] <MonkeyDust> can I somehow save live session settings?
[01:19] <scarleo> samruger: If you google that message there are a lot of different results for it, the cause varies
[01:19] <tocia> aymara: you can remove java and JDK from Ubuntu Software Center
[01:19] <yagoo> aymara, did u try apt-get install defaultjre ?
[01:19] <Generalcamo> It looks like my touchpad is not even identified in cat /proc/bus/input/devices
[01:19] <Markus__> #irc
[01:19] <aymara> yagoo, i need the sun one i try to reinstall it from software center
[01:19] <yagoo> aymara, did u try apt-get install default-jre ?
[01:20] <yagoo> aymara, oh
[01:20] <aymara> yagoo no i'll do it now then
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> netWoes: if network manager is out then the resolv.conf should be left alone. If you run:  dpkg -l | grep network | less     do you see any network manager packages installed?
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> aymara: its owned by oracle now
[01:21] <episteme> anyone else having trouble setting custom key shortcuts?
[01:21] <cajunspice> Generalcamo, here's a sample xorg.conf- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=931280
[01:21] <yagoo> aymara, be sure to download a good one.. like right arch.
[01:21] <Chaosratt> Anyone have any experience doing fresh Raid1 installs on 11.10?
[01:21] <Generalcamo> That website is useless, my touch pad is not even identified
[01:21] <netWoes> ActionParsnip: nope... but what's stumping me is if i run /etc/init.d/networking restart it generates fine... on reboot it just says generated by resolvconf but no values/settings
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> yagoo: aymara: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/oracle-buys-sun-now-owns-java-becomes-a-hardware-player/16598
[01:21] <bnmorgan> help request: required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(3360, 1050), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1680, 1680)
[01:21] <cajunspice> Generalcamo, how are you chatting here if you can't type anything?
[01:21] <bnmorgan> it was working find before i updated and rebooted.
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> netWoes: could add the command in /etc/rc.local  to make it run at boot
[01:22] <Generalcamo> I am using my windows desktop
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> netWoes: add it above the exit 0 line and you should be ok
[01:22] <Generalcamo> And I CAN use my keyboard on my laptop
[01:22] <Generalcamo> just not the touchpad...
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> Generalcamo: I gave you a guide how to get it running
[01:22] <Generalcamo> I know
[01:22] <netWoes> ActionParsnip: hmm.. might try that, but seems like it should be working
[01:22] <Generalcamo> But it fails at the first step
[01:22] <cajunspice> then get some sample xorg.conf with your windows machine, and then copy it over to your linux machine
[01:22] <theborger> ActionParsnip: still not wokring cannot find xbmc
[01:23] <Generalcamo> cat /proc/bus/input/devices
[01:23] <Generalcamo> My touchpad is not identified
[01:23] <dimas__> Hello all !
[01:23] <yagoo> aymara, did u check these pools ? http://archive.canonical.com/dists/
[01:23] <Generalcamo> my keyboard IS
[01:23] <Generalcamo> but not my touchpad
[01:24] <yagoo> aymara, http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/s/sun-java6/ (was hinted from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java)
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> theborger: did you add the PPA, then change it to maverick?
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> Generalcamo: the guide shows what to add the xorg.conf to make it load
[01:24] <Generalcamo> It also states that you need to know what your touchpad make is before continuing
[01:24] <aymara> yagoo, ok i'll read them
[01:24] <cajunspice> Generalcamo, how is your touchpad seen as? ps/2? usb? serial?
[01:24] <netWoes> theborger: yes what ActionParsnip says is right, add it and change to maverick.. i installed it yesteday
[01:25] <Generalcamo> I don't know
[01:25] <nronflx> how do i get rid-off the bottom bar, i want to use cairo-dock but that bar is on the way, before i could right click and delete the bar, on 11.10 i have no such option, ideas?
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> Generalcamo: lspci; lsusb   will detail it
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> nronflx: which DE?
[01:25] <nronflx> gnome
[01:26] <Generalcamo> It is none of them
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> nronflx: if you run:  killall gnome-panel    does it vanish?
[01:26] <semitones> which gnome
[01:26] <Generalcamo> My touchpad is not listed in either one of them
[01:26] <nronflx> the one that come with 11.10
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> Generalcamo: just try what the example says, it can't make it not work any less
[01:26] <cajunspice> if it's not usb, it's probably ps/2
[01:26] <semitones> nronflx: gnome doesn't come with it. only unity
[01:27] <bnmorgan> is there a better place for me to go as a complete new user for help?
[01:27] <nronflx> i installed gnome, maybe i need to logout and loging under gnome if i have that otpion,
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> bnmorgan: here is good or #ubuntu-beginners   may exist
[01:28] <semitones> bnmorgan: #ubuntu-beginners might be what you're looking for :)
[01:28] <Generalcamo> Do I need to reboot for the changes to apply?
[01:28] <bnmorgan> thank you.
[01:28] <cajunspice> no
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> Generalcamo: if you used xorg.conf then yes
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> makes life easier
[01:28] <bnmorgan> join #ubuntu-beginners
[01:28] <theborger> ActionParsnip: did you use git?
[01:28] <bnmorgan> >.<
[01:28] <cajunspice> just need to restart X
[01:29] <Generalcamo> It did not work
[01:29] <coraxx> Does anyone know how to create Dia shapes (.shape files) with Ubuntu ...Inkscape doesn't seem to work right ?
[01:30] <theborger> netWoes: are you talking about using git?
[01:30] <cajunspice> General, has that touchpad ever worked with linux?
[01:30] <bnmorgan> having problems getting my monitors out of mirror mode after my first reboot
[01:30] <Generalcamo> With Natty
[01:30] <bnmorgan> anybody have suggestions?
[01:30] <gary_inNYC> my system prompts Desktop effects cannot be enabled.  what can i do to re-enable them?
[01:30] <Generalcamo> Would reinstalling ubuntu from scratch fix it?
[01:30] <netWoes> theborger: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/ubuntu maverick main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/ubuntu maverick main
[01:30] <cajunspice> General, do you still have a copy of the xorg.conf you used with natty?
[01:31] <Generalcamo> No
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> theborger: never used it in my life
[01:31] <Generalcamo> A lot of system files were messed up when I updated it
[01:31] <theborger> netWoes: ok thanks i think i had the wrong http in there
[01:31] <Generalcamo> I restored most of them
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> cajunspice: for new users I always go for a reboot to keep it simple
[01:31] <Generalcamo> And somehow got my documents back
[01:31] <melhuishj> So, I can't mount my Linux partition from a live disc using GParted.  It shows up, but when I click on it all of the options dissapear
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> Generalcamo: did you upgrade from Natty to Oneiric or is it a clean Oneiric install?
[01:32] <scarleo> bnmorgan: did you try System Settings -> Displays and then untick Mirror Displays?
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> melhuishj: mount the partition from nautilus in the live CD
[01:32] <Generalcamo> Natty ---> oneiric
[01:32] <barney> hi all, need help. Netbook remix. On bootup I get background and top taskbar with clock etc but no menus like favourites, apps, etc.
[01:32] <Generalcamo> But with a special install dick
[01:32] <melhuishj> That's the thing...it doesn't show up in nautilus
[01:32] <Generalcamo> disk
[01:32] <cajunspice> Generalcamo, can you get a console window to type "dmesg | more"
[01:33] <bnmorgan> scarleo: yes, it tells me an error "required virtual size does not fit available size: " and lists several sizes.
[01:33] <melhuishj> I see the 100GB Windows partition, the swap, and some other small partitions, but the ~150GB Linux partition is absent from the list
[01:33] <coraxx> who knows how to work Dia Diagram Editor in Ubuntu ?
[01:34] <semitones> melhuishj: try running mount in terminal
[01:34] <Generalcamo> Yes
[01:34] <Generalcamo> Already did that too
[01:34] <theborger> netWoes: thanks i just had the url wrong.
[01:34] <cajunspice> Generalcamo, if you can do a "dmesg | more", somehwere in that output it will tell you what kind of mouse linux thinks your touchpad is
[01:34] <scarleo> bnmorgan: Could you try unplug that extra monitor and logout/login then connect it again?
[01:35] <melhuishj> Well, I've tried, but its an LVM partition it seems, so I had to go through a rather annoying process to find the actual partition location, and it still didn't work
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> Generalcamo: try a clean install, may help
[01:35] <bnmorgan> ok. brb.
[01:35] <melhuishj> Or did you mean just run mount?
[01:35] <Generalcamo> Which line?
[01:35] <semitones> Generalcamo: see if the live media detects it
[01:36] <semitones> melhuishj: just mount, to see what/wehre it is
[01:36] <unc0nnected> hey everyone, I've upgraded from 10.04 to 11.10 and my machine hangs during the boot sequence.  I can alt-f1 into another tty and when I do the hung boot screen goes on to Starting NetBIOS name server, then does a starting/stopping Mount network filesystems and hands there
[01:36] <melhuishj> It seems /dev/sda6 is not present
[01:36] <Generalcamo> I can't even find it
[01:36] <cajunspice> General, another workaround solution would be plugging in an external usb mouse. just temporarily
[01:36] <Generalcamo> I will probably just run a full clean install
[01:37] <Generalcamo> Yeah
[01:38] <Generalcamo> Thanks for the help guys, but I think I will just reinstall ubuntu
[01:38] <Generalcamo> Have a nice night/day
[01:39] <coraxx> who knows how to work Dia Diagram Editor in Ubuntu ? n e body ?
[01:39] <yagoo> unc0nnected, apt-get install pastebinit; cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |pastebinit -t myxlog
[01:39] <cheekee> I am having trouble getting Ubuntu to recognize my DVD RW drive...I have tried adding /dev/cdrom, /dev/cdrom4,/dev/dvd to fstab but no luck so far
[01:40] <barney> hi all, need help. Netbook remix. On bootup I get background and top taskbar with clock etc but no menus like favourites, apps, etc. It was working fine before an update this morning.
[01:40] <apparatus> Hey, has anyone got experiences with SSDs here?
[01:40] <aymara> yagoo, i got it now, i have sun java as default, my applet now is working
[01:40] <cajunspice> cheekee, does it detect anything?
[01:40] <rodayo> Is it at all possible to prevent apps from getting grouped together in the task switcher? Or better yet a way to show the window instead of the useless icon...
[01:40] <byron> scarleo: didn't change anything
[01:40] <Guest46424> I have a question about screen, how does the -X flag work?
[01:40] <rodayo> Oneiric btw, forgot to mention
[01:41] <Logan_> !anyone | apparatus
[01:41] <yagoo> aymara, i thought applets are going extinct.. i haven't seen one in like the past 2 years..
[01:41] <yagoo> aymara, midlets and java servlets are here to stay.. but i don't see a future for applets
[01:41] <scarleo> byron: hmmm, what's your GPU and what driver are you using?
[01:42] <Guest46424> I am /quit
[01:42] <apparatus> The problem being that I just bought a Crucial m4 64GB version and I'm getting relatively normal read speeds (around 275MB/s) but delivers write speeds of 15MB/s (should be multiple times higher).
[01:42] <aymara> yagoo, it's not an applet, it is a software to play dominoes online
[01:42] <cheekee> cajunspice:  well I have a blu-ray drive, that doesn't seem to show on fstab either, but I can watch DVDs on it. I can't copy files to the Blu-ray drive though
[01:42] <scarleo> coraxx: I have used it, what u need help with?
[01:42] <aymara> :D
[01:42] <unc0nnected> hmm, boot sequence hangs but if I alt-f1 and run sudo service gdm start gnome starts up.. any ideas?
[01:42] <yagoo> aymara, applets exists as java in a webbrowser.. however that's not the only place java is used..
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> apparatus: look into hdparm
[01:43] <apparatus> One other person also had problems with it and complained about it in Crucial's forums and managed to find the answer on his own. This however, was in Windows.
[01:43] <yagoo> aymara, so i was suprised when u said applet.. i see like no applets on the web other than java apps/servers/cellphones..
[01:43] <byron> scarleo: 6770 and i don't know.
[01:43] <cheekee> cajunspice: The Blu-ray device is a sata device the DVD -rom is old school
[01:43] <byron> or don't know where to look
[01:43] <scarleo> byron: is that ATI?
[01:43] <byron> yes
[01:43] <semitones> unc0nnected: try booting without 'qquiet splash' in grub and see if it says anything
[01:44] <yagoo> semitones, did u try those commands i gave u?
[01:44] <aymara> yagoo, thks
[01:44] <scarleo> byron: then there are probably better suited persons here to help you, no exp from ATI whatsoever
[01:44] <cajunspice> cheekee, what happens if you try to mount the drive manually?
[01:44] <apparatus> ActionParsnip: I'm not exactly experienced in dealing with Linux. What should I look for?
[01:44] <semitones> yagoo: wrong person
[01:44] <yagoo> unc0nnected, u tried those commands i gave u?
[01:44] <yagoo> ^.
[01:44] <unc0nnected> semitones: I'll try that right now.. will that show me more info then when I press escape during the boot sequence to show me line by line of what's going on?
[01:44] <tasse> hi i just tried to install gnome-shell and it was bugged, afterwards i installed gnome-shell and got a bug and i did this ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver#Problem:__Need_to_fully_remove_-fglrx_and_reinstall_-ati_from_scratch ) - now, if i start my pc i dont get anything but a black screen with nothing..
[01:45] <yagoo> unc0nnected, u need sudo for apt-get
[01:45] <semitones> unc0nnected: i actually don't know what hitting esc does
[01:45] <coraxx> scarleo: need help with creating shapes ...or rather custom-shapes ...how you tried that ?
[01:45] <unc0nnected> yagoo: sorry, i missed them.. I'm going to try them right now.. thanks
[01:45] <yagoo> coraxx, maybe ask on #linux? you're asking on how to use dia.. i'm sure very if anyone is using it
[01:45] <cajunspice> cheekee: like with "mount -t iso9600 -r /dev/sr0 /mnt/cdrom" (with a cd in the drive)
[01:45] <yagoo> cajunspice, -t auto, is easier
[01:45] <cheekee> cajunspice: It doesn't respond at all. My Floppy drive at least tells me it has nothing to read.
[01:46] <bnmorgan> scarleo: where do i find driver info?
[01:46] <cajunspice> you mean the command never finishes?
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> apparatus: read the man page and look for samples online. You may need to mess with dma etc, use it to test throughput first
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> apparatus: also check BIOS settings
[01:46] <frei> I'm having problem linking libxml2 (I get a 'ex1.c:(.text+0x60): undefined reference to `xmlReadFile' error), but all the libxml2 packages seem to be installed and I use -lxml2 when compiling. Someone has an idea what the problem could be ?
[01:47] <coraxx> yagoo: thanx ... 'm gonna stickj around for a while and see what scarleo have to say ;-)
[01:47] <unc0nnected> yagoo: pastebinit is amazing, how did I not know about tihs until now.. thakns for the recommendation.
[01:47] <yagoo> coraxx, u didnt get a pastebinit output ? that's what alot of people do..they post their x log
[01:47] <scarleo> coraxx: No never tried that, following a guiide?
[01:47] <cajunspice> cheekee: does the command never finish or does it come back with some error?
[01:47] <yagoo> coraxx, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |pastebinit -t myxlog
[01:47] <unc0nnected> http://paste.ubuntu.com/712690
[01:47] <unc0nnected> theres my xorg log
[01:48] <scarleo> bnmorgan: you could have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:49] <coraxx> scarleo: I can't seem to find a guide on the subject.  Which is very strange.  On Dia's homepage I found a script that _should_ convert .svg-files to .shape-files ...which is nice as Inkscape is a good tool for creating shapes...however it is not working right :-(
[01:49] <scarleo> coraxx: there is a guide here: http://dia-installer.de/howto/create_shape/index.html.en Is thta what you want to do?
[01:49] <bnmorgan> scarleo: argh. looks like my answer. it worked till i updated to what i thought were the proper proprietary drivers.
[01:49] <coraxx> yagoo: (are you sure you meant to direct that answer to me ;-) )
[01:50] <cheekee> cajunspice: it says /sr0 doesn't exist
[01:50] <bnmorgan> how do i un-screw it.
[01:50] <yagoo> coraxx, looks like i was asking you on X problems. u caught me naked..
[01:50] <netWoes> why is this resolv.conf issue so irritating? NetworkManager is GONE, resolvconf is generating empty on boot, but fine when I manually run "/etc/init.d/networking restart"
[01:50] <yagoo> coraxx, i meant that for unc0nnected
[01:50]  * yagoo lets scarleo and coraxx talk about dia coolness
[01:51] <cheekee> cajunspice: /dev/sr0 doesn't exist
[01:51] <coraxx> scarleo: no... I came across that guide during my search, however it assumes that you wanna create shapes based on already existing shapes in Dia ... now new ones you import.
[01:52] <coraxx> scarleo: *now = not
[01:52] <unc0nnected> So I can start GDM manually but the thing still hangs on 'Run system V runlevel compatability' .. think installing lightdm would help?
[01:53]  * coraxx thanx yagoo for letting us discuss this cool Diagram software :-)
[01:53] <scarleo> bnmorgan: You can read here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver, just purge the fglrx ones and install the radeon ones instead
[01:54] <cajunspice> cheekee: does anythng show up in a dmesg ?
[01:54] <cheekee> cajunspice: it also says /dvd, /dvd4, /cdrom and /cdrom4 don't exist either even though fstab lists them all
[01:54] <scarleo> coraxx: Hmmm, it says: You can also use other tools such as Inkscape to draw your shape, save it in the SVG format and import it to Dia.
[01:54] <scarleo> coraxx: Could you share a svg file so I can try to import it?
[01:55] <yagoo> unc0nnected, looks like there's 2 solutions.. i would try the latter one-> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=119578
[01:55] <cajunspice> cheeke: fstab does n't devices be seen, it only automounts them after they are seen
[01:55] <unc0nnected> I've just set lightdm to be the default and it loads fine, but not gdm
[01:55] <yagoo> unc0nnected, first solution is part-solution (there's a slight flicker).. maybe more bleeding edge fglrx driver doesn't have this problem..
[01:55] <unc0nnected> yagoo: checking the link now.. thanks
[01:56] <unc0nnected> i thought /etc/X11/xorg.conf was depreciated
[01:56] <cajunspice> cheekee: try this "dmesg | more" and then "/sr0"
[01:56] <coraxx> scarleo: exactly what I've read ...but it really stinks...both the script and the guide :-) ... how can I send a .svg-file to you ? ..or rather how would you like me to do that ;-) ?
[01:56] <scarleo> coraxx: found this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4643243/import-custom-svg-shapes
[01:56] <jmwpc> I need help getting a network driver to load at startup an 11.10. I need to load the module r8712u for the (usb) network adapter to work. When using sudo modprobe r8712u, everything works. When I add r8712u to /etc/modules and reboot, it does not work. How do I get this module to load at startup?
[01:56] <yagoo> unc0nnected, no it isnt
[01:56] <melhuishj> In case anyone is interested, I figured it out
[01:57] <yagoo> unc0nnected, u sometimes don't see xorg.conf on linux because X can also dynamically discover things..
[01:57] <yagoo> unc0nnected, to generate an xorg.conf file..
[01:57] <cheekee> cajunspice: There is something there  cdrom: Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
[01:57] <unc0nnected> yagoo: gotcha.. actually I tried completely removing all ati drivers and still encountered this problem
[01:57] <yagoo> unc0nnected, stop lightdm, X -configure, copy the sample for /root or ~/ (xorg.conf.new) and copy it as /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:58] <cheekee> [  156.796966] sr 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0
[01:58] <yagoo> unc0nnected, edit xorg.conf after
[01:58] <cheekee> sorry
[01:58]  * yagoo likes mcedit from apt-get install mc for editing in console
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> jmwpc: you can add the command:  modprobe r8712u    in /etc/rc.local
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> jmwpc: add it above the exit - line :D
[01:59] <cajunspice> cheekee: ok, so it is detecting you drive
[01:59] <coraxx> scarleo: HA!....I didn't know you could do that ....that is very cool :-D ... it would be even cooler if it worked correctly :-( ....I only see a black outline of the shape...no colors *sniff*
[01:59] <yagoo> unc0nnected, dont try the xorg trick..
[01:59] <yagoo> unc0nnected, that's the flicker side-effect solution. Try the last reply on the thread
[01:59] <DrChuncks> hey
[01:59] <cajunspice> cheekee: is it a data disc you've got in it when you try to mount it?
[01:59] <DrChuncks> hey
[01:59] <jmwpc> ActionParsnip: I will give that a go... brb
[02:00] <cheekee> cajunspice:  A live CD
[02:00] <scarleo> coraxx: you can share in any way
[02:00] <yagoo> unc0nnected, btw "[   795.497] Warning: LookupWindow()/SecurityLookupWindow() are deprecated.  Please convert your driver/module to use dixLookupWindow()." from ur x log
[02:00] <unc0nnected> yagoo: xrandr outputs: Can't open display
[02:00] <scarleo> so that doesn't work?
[02:00] <cajunspice> cheekee: I don't understand why you get that error when you try to mount it, then
[02:00] <cheekee> cajunspice: but I can't eject it
[02:00] <coraxx> scarleo: (...and it duplicates the shape within the shape...weird :-( )
[02:01] <yagoo> unc0nnected, what was ur command?
[02:01] <cajunspice> cheekeeL if you can't eject it, then it is mounted
[02:01] <yagoo> (and full commandline)
[02:01] <cheekee> cajunspice:  the devce simply doesn't respond or allow me to mount it
[02:01] <unc0nnected> yagoo: just xrandr .. I'll look into that warning now and try to solve that. thanks for pointing that out
[02:01] <yagoo> xrandr works here
[02:02] <jmwpc> ActionParsnip: That worked... how is that different than adding it to /etc/modules?
[02:02] <cajunspice> cheekee: if you want to eject it, try umount {whatever you mounted it to}
[02:02] <yagoo> unc0nnected, what warning..
[02:02] <unc0nnected> yagoo: as it shold I imagine.. heh, but mine is not a computer that plays by the rules
[02:02] <yagoo> unc0nnected, xlog or xrandr?
[02:02] <unc0nnected> nothing in my life is apparenlty :)
[02:02] <coraxx> scarleo: unfortunately no ...but I was a nice trick you found ..maybe I'm closer to the answer now...so thanx.
[02:02] <unc0nnected> yagoo: xrandr, xlog isn't even installed
[02:02] <yagoo> unc0nnected, your log shows very good edid pickup and modelines.. so it looks very stable
[02:03] <scarleo> coraxx: np, I hope you get it right
[02:03] <yagoo> unc0nnected, (xlog as i mean /var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[02:03] <unc0nnected> yagoo: yea that's what it wants you to think.. it wants to lure you into a false sense of security and then it explodes everything all at once
[02:03] <yagoo> unc0nnected, i meant the last line -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/712690/
[02:03] <yagoo> unc0nnected, also what's the output of xrandr?
[02:03] <yagoo> unc0nnected, xrandr |pasteinit -t xrandr
[02:03] <cheekee> cajun it says /sr0 is not mounted according to mtab
[02:03] <yagoo> unc0nnected, xrandr |pastebinit -t xrandr
[02:04] <unc0nnected> yagoo: it just says 'can't open display'
[02:04] <coraxx> scarleo: I think the problem is the requirements of the .SVG-file ...there must be some definition somewhere of how it should be formatted if it should work with Dia...or rather the .shape-file format....I don't think all .svg-files agrees with Dia.
[02:04] <yagoo> unc0nnected, are u normal user?
[02:04] <cajunspice> cheekee: oh, did you mount it as root? or at least sudo'd?
[02:04] <yagoo> unc0nnected, (not # root)
[02:04] <unc0nnected> yagoo: tried it as both
[02:04] <yagoo> unc0nnected, u have to be in X of course
[02:05] <unc0nnected> ahh
[02:05] <yagoo> lol
[02:05] <frei> For many packages there is a 'doc' package, where do you access it ? (I though it was "man [nameoftheprogram]" but it doesn't seem to be the case).
[02:05] <amiranda> I use the nvidia driver, and I have two displays.  When I try to configure both displays, and tell nvidia-settings to configure them as separate displays (NOT twinview), the second display doesn't get a window manager or anything.  Is there a way to fix that?
[02:05] <scarleo> coraxx:yeah, either the svg or some import options that needs to be set
[02:06] <malexw> Hey folks, I just upgraded to 11.10 but I'm having trouble getting gnome to start. How should I go about debugging this?
[02:06] <Fah> frei: /usr/share/doc
[02:06] <yagoo> unc0nnected, Aplications/SystemTools or Accessories/Terminal
[02:06] <cheekee> cajunspice: I may have tried that
[02:06] <yagoo> (Applications/SystemTools/Xterm is an alternativve)
[02:07] <coraxx> scarleo: Dia is not very flexible in that regard ...so the answer is probably in the 'exported' format ...I which I knew of a .shape-file editor in Linux/Ubuntu ... I haven't been able to find one.  Do you know of any ?
[02:07] <bnmorgan> scarleo: for the time being i think i surrender. i don't have the patience left to try to get it going.
[02:07] <yagoo> amiranda, multiseat?
[02:07] <Lady-34> where is the configuration for diming mi backlight,is blindng me,,so bright controls does not work on keyboard or anywhere else on the system
[02:07] <bnmorgan> scarleo: back to windoze :(
[02:08] <frei> @Fah: thanks !
[02:08] <cajunspice> cheekee: if you cd to "/dev" and type "ls sr*", what does it say?
[02:08] <yagoo> amiranda, two users 1 computer? or 1 user with two separate desktop sessions using 1 keyboard ?
[02:09] <amiranda> yagoo: no, just me.  1 user with 1 keyboard, but wanting two separate sessions (so I can switch the desktop on one screen, but not the other.)
[02:09] <cheekee> cajunspice: no such file or directory
[02:09] <cajunspice> sounds like something is messed up
[02:09] <amiranda> yagoo: works fine on 10.04, but not on 11.10 (and I think not on 11.04 either, though I didn't test that much).
[02:10] <cajunspice> cheekee: it found sr0 at boot time, it was in the dmesg. but it's not ending up in your dev directory
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> jmwpc: that script is ran just before the login screen shows, runs as root too. Not sure why /etc/modules doesn't work though
[02:11] <scarleo> bnmorgan: thats too bad
[02:11] <unc0nnected> yagoo: ya I shutdown X to run X -configure
[02:11] <scarleo> coraxx: there is documentation for it in /usr/share/doc/dia-common/custom-shapes.gz Haven't read it but there might be clues
[02:11] <unc0nnected> i'll start ti back up again
[02:11] <yagoo> unc0nnected, xrandr didnt do the trick?
[02:11] <scarleo> coraxx: No, I don't know any other .shape editors
[02:11] <coraxx> scarleo: ok thanx :-) ...I'll take a look.
[02:12] <unc0nnected> yagoo: it might, I just had to run to the bathroom for 5.. bootign back into x now
[02:12] <coraxx> scarleo: ok...no worries :-)
[02:12] <yagoo> unc0nnected, use beer bottles
[02:12] <yagoo> unc0nnected, that's what gf's and wives are for :)
[02:12] <cheekee> cajunspice: I tried to symbolically link sr0 to my cdrom then I unlinked it...It seems to have disappeared completely now
[02:13] <bnmorgan> scarleo: i know. i'll give it another go in a day or two when i'm not at the end of 13 hrs work and a migraine
[02:13] <unc0nnected> yagoo: they only go so far, that and my computer is the only mistress in my life right now and apparently she is on strike
[02:13] <yagoo> cheekee, what disppeared? the /dev/sr0 devicefile ?
[02:13] <cheekee> yagoo: yes
[02:13] <scarleo> bnmorgan: that sounds better :) get some rest
[02:14] <cajunspice> cheekee:that wasn't good to do. if you type "top", do you see any process named "udevd"?
[02:14] <yagoo> cheekee, if u reboot it should be regenrated from udev
[02:14] <scarleo> coraxx: Here is a lot more detailed documentation also: http://dia-installer.de/doc/en/custom-shapes-chapter.html
[02:14] <yagoo> cheekee, ur maybe for udev to recheck currently
[02:14] <jonpry> how can i debug an acpi problem?
[02:15] <unc0nnected> yagoo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/712708
[02:15] <unc0nnected> yagoo: there's no problems once lightdm is loading.. well there are but nothing in the boot sequence anymore
[02:15] <hunter_> hey
[02:15] <cajunspice> udevd not running would explain how it's not getting put into dev
[02:16] <cheekee> I see no udev
[02:16] <cajunspice> that's the problem
[02:16] <FerchoLP> Hi, I upgraded to 11.10 and switched to XFCE and I have now the following issue: when I mute sounds, it works OK, but when I unmute, volume is set to 0 and I have to volume up again.   Also, the HP pavilion mute media button doesn't turn red on mute any more. This is not really important but maybe is related and can help to figure out what the problem can be.
[02:16] <cajunspice> you need to have udev loaded at boot time
[02:16] <yagoo> cheekee, u shouldn't use -f with ln sometimes..
[02:16] <yagoo> cheekee, especially with sym links against dev files..
[02:17] <malexw> Anyone know how to disable or uninstall the binary AMD ATI driver from a terminal?
[02:17] <cheekee> ok
[02:17] <yagoo> cheekee, if u reboot does it get regenerated?
[02:17] <gantry> I'm confused on how we install gnome shell extensions.  I install them from the Ubuntu Software Center, but when I use the Advanced Settings tool, I don't see anything under Install Shell Extensions
[02:18] <cheekee> ok I'll try that now, be back in a few mins
[02:18] <bluer> hello i install ubuntu 11.04 with second partition for home but cant see my files what should i change in fstab in order to access my files?
[02:18] <scarleo> coraxx: like 11.3.2. Recognised drawing elements May be a hint of what works from the svg
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> bluer: is the home partition in /etc/fstab?
[02:18] <Gskellig> somehow during the 11.10 install, my mouse cursor turned HUGE and won't go back, can't figure out how to get it back since 11.10
[02:18] <bluer> no
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> bluer: here is mine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/712712/   I suggest you use the noatime option but the line will be identical except the UUID
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> bluer: you can find out your UUID by running:  sudo blkid
[02:20] <grom358> running XFCE.. my unmute/mute button doesn't work properly. Mute appears to work.. But unmuting only unmutes the ASLA device. The PulseAudio is still muted.. Resulting in no sound
[02:21] <cajunspice> alsamixer?
[02:21] <FerchoLP> ahh same problem here!! after unmiting, volume is set to 0
[02:21] <bluer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/712714/
[02:21] <cajunspice> does alsamixer help?
[02:22] <FerchoLP> in my case, both alsa and pulse are set to zero at muting, but are not restored to previous value on unmuting
[02:22] <bluer> ActionParsnip http://paste.ubuntu.com/712715/
[02:23] <bluer> ActionParsnip: what should i change in my fstab?
[02:23] <cajunspice> FerchoLP, what happens if you run alsamixer from a console window?
[02:24] <grom358> alsamixer does the same thing
[02:24] <grom358> what happens with alsamixer exactly the same.. Pulse Audio is still muted.. so no sound
[02:24] <cajunspice> what kind of audio do you have?
[02:24] <grom358> as in sound card?
[02:24] <cajunspice> yes
[02:25] <grom358> HDA Intel
[02:25] <cjs> So, the ability to do a guest session is removed in Ubuntu 11.10?
[02:25] <cajunspice> from alsamixer, are all the mixer controls set to zero, or just the main alsa volume?
[02:25] <cjs> Oh, hm. It's supposed to be there. Something's wrong with my panel.
[02:25] <fructose> Anyone know if there is something like Grid that works great on more than 4 windows? Once I use up my four corners, I find myself having to manually resize things to fit
[02:26] <scarleo> bluer: line 14: UUID=96aa5caa-0767-4b31-a875-f5b52fdbb6ba /home ext4 defaults 0 0
[02:26] <grom358> any other ideas?
[02:26] <FerchoLP> in my case, just the Master is set to zero
[02:26] <cheryljosie> hello everyone, my boot just got hosed. hangs at initramfs after update. oneiric fresh install
[02:26] <FerchoLP> from both alsa and pulseaudio
[02:26] <scarleo> bluer: if that is the correct UUID
[02:27] <cjs> Where's the gnome-panel setup in Ubuntu 11.10?
[02:27] <cajunspice> FerchoLP: at least it's easier to correct when it's only one volume control
[02:27] <bluer> ??
[02:27] <cheryljosie> anyone know what to do if hung at boot?
[02:28] <ivanBliminse> Anyone have any idea why the 11.10 64 bit ISO gives me an error that says, "prefix not set" then a black screen with white garbled columns maybe... i've tried burning it to a CD,DVD and boot stick. same result all three times
[02:28] <tabaxter_> A quick query. If I am mid-distribution upgrade, is it possible to hibernate my computer without completely screwing the process? I need to have the computer powered down in the next ten minutes in order for an electrician to work on the property.
[02:28] <cajunspice> ivanBliminse: did you try to burn the same download 3 times, or three different downloads?
[02:29] <ivanBliminse> cajunspice, three different downloads..
[02:29] <scarleo> bluer: You should change line 14 in your fstab paste to what I gave you
[02:29] <cajunspice> sounds like a bios problem
[02:29] <ivanBliminse> cajunspice, the 11.10 32 bit works just fine...
[02:29] <cheryljosie> hello, anyone know what to do when hung at initramfs?
[02:30] <ivanBliminse> cajunspice, even though it is a 64 bit system
[02:30] <cheryljosie> Do not have a clue where to start. not even a kernel prom.
[02:30] <bluer> thanx scarleo
[02:30] <dwarder> guys, was anyone able to run this device on ubuntu http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=440
[02:30] <cajunspice> ivanBliminse: I'd guess the 64 bit version made some assumptions about what kind of bios it would be dealing with, that aren't true
[02:30] <cjs> Oh, hm. It's not gnome-panel in Ubuntu-2D in 11.10 any more. What am I using for that bar at the top of the screen, and how do I change it?
[02:30] <ivanBliminse> cajunspice, any idea on a way around it?
[02:31] <theborger> what is the best or works the best VNC type server for 11.04?
[02:31] <dwarder> i am thinking about buying one to work with my ubuntu
[02:31] <cheekee> cajunspice: my sr0 is back after rebooting but I still don't see anything in top
[02:31] <bluer> what about noatime
[02:31] <cheryljosie> hello, anyone know what to do when hung at initramfs? where to start looking for the problem? is there an update bug in oneiric?
[02:32] <cjs> Is there another place I should be asking these questions?
[02:32] <netWoes> ActionParsnip: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/resolvconf/+bug/366967 looks like it's still bugging people after all these years
[02:32] <cajunspice> ivanBliminse: I always prefer the 32 bit versions myself. was it the 64 bit version for your particular kind of cpu chip? (intel, amd, etc)
[02:32] <bluer> ??
[02:32] <ivanBliminse> cajunspice, I didn't know there were differnt versions.. i wondered about it saying amd.. where do I find the 64 bit intel?
[02:32] <cajunspice> cheekee: does a "cd /dev" "ls sr*" show anything now?
[02:33] <cheryljosie> would it be faster to just reinstall and try again?
[02:33] <ivanBliminse> cajunspice, does using the 64 bit double your throughput?.. why do you prefer 32 bit?
[02:33] <cheekee> yeah sr0
[02:33] <cheryljosie> i would rather not reinstall... it took me days to get it all running
[02:35] <scarleo> bluer: You can add it if you want: defaults,noatime where it says default
[02:35] <cajunspice> ivanBliminse: I prefer 32 bit because I have an amd64 where the speed of 32 bit is like 95% of the speed of 64 bit, and 32 bit is much more dependable
[02:35] <cheryljosie> hello, anyone care to chat about boot problem? hung at initramfs after update, 11.10 oneiric
[02:35] <Stupendoussteve> 64 bit binaries use more ram, not much use using 64 bit unless you have more ram than 32 bit supports
[02:35] <tabaxter_> A quick query. If I am mid-distribution upgrade, is it possible to hibernate my computer without completely screwing the process? I need to have the computer powered down in the next ten minutes in order for an electrician to work on the property.
[02:36] <cajunspice> cheekee: if sr0 is there in your /dev directory now, you can use it to mount discs
[02:36] <Stupendoussteve> tabaxter_: Got a good back?
[02:36] <Stupendoussteve> *backup
[02:36] <ivanBliminse> cajunspice, I have Intel i5 ... i'm not seeing a 64 bit download for intel.. do they not make one?
[02:36] <cheryljosie> i do believe 64 bit has an advantage if running full disk encryption because of the extra registers...
[02:36] <Stupendoussteve> ivanBliminse: It's called amd64
[02:36] <qmr> The following extra packages will be installed:   pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat pulseaudio-module-x11
[02:36] <cheekee> cajunspice: I just tried sudo mount /dev/sr0 /mnt/cdrom
[02:36] <qmr> WHY.  WHY.  WHY.
[02:36] <qmr> I removed pulseaudio for a reason
[02:37] <ivanBliminse> stupendoussteve, is that not for an AMD?
[02:37] <Stupendoussteve> AMD did 64 bit first, Intel copied ;)
[02:37] <Stupendoussteve> It is for both
[02:37] <cajunspice> ivanBliminse: I don't know
[02:37] <qmr> eh
[02:37] <qmr> itanium is pretty old
[02:37] <tabaxter_> Stupendoussteve: not great, no. All valuable stuff is on ubuntuone, but a lot of apps are installed that I'd dearly love to not have to reinstall.
[02:37] <Stupendoussteve> Itanium isn't x86
[02:38] <cheekee> cajunspice: and got the message /dev/sr0 unknown device
[02:38] <Stupendoussteve> tabaxter_: Interrupting the upgrade for any reason is generally a very bad idea. It may come back from hibernation, or you might just find a half broken system
[02:38] <cajunspice> cheekee: I'm out of ideas, it should be working
[02:38] <ivanBliminse> stupendoussteve, any idea why the 64 bit install version doesn't work? I get "prefix not set", then black screen with what looks like white garbled columns... I've tried 3 downloads, cd,dvd,flash
[02:39] <cheryljosie> prefix not set sounds like a ram problem?
[02:39] <darkfears> does anyone know how I can get NDAS drivers? running Ubuntu 11.10. Have Flash plugin installed, when using firefox it still says "plug-in not installed" when I am trying to view the driver download section on ximeta's website
[02:40] <qmr> How do I install something with apt without getting pulse audio ?
[02:40] <cajunspice> cheekee: have you tried putting the disc in the other drive?
[02:40] <darkfears> so basically i cannot see the link which would allow me to download the NDAS drivers without flash plugin working properly
[02:40] <cheryljosie> qmr try another distro maybe... all packages are going to pull in their dependencies
[02:41] <ivanBliminse> darkfears, did you try another browser?
[02:41] <qmr> ...
[02:41] <qmr> pulse is horrible
[02:41] <darkfears> just chrome but it didnt work either. says flash plugin is not installed.. but it is
[02:41] <Stupendoussteve> ivanBliminse: You're not doing a wubi install, are you?
[02:41] <ivanBliminse> stupendoussteve, nope
[02:41] <tabaxter_> Stupendoussteve: Bugger.   If I have no other option, is hibernating the safest available option, or am I better to try a complete shut down/something else?
[02:42] <ivanBliminse> darkfears, msg me the site let me take a lok
[02:42] <Stupendoussteve> tabaxter_: Is it still downloading the packages?
[02:42] <cheryljosie> ok well i tried, looks like i do a reinstall, since no one cares to acknowledge my presence.
[02:42] <ivanBliminse> cheryljosie, just because noone answered doesn't mean noone cares.. be greatful noone replied instead of people giving bad ifo
[02:42] <cajunspice> cherlyjosie, what was your problem again?
[02:43] <linocisco> hi I have encrypted home folder and since I last change my password, I failed to log in. now I totally forgot all old and new password. how could I do ?
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> darkfears: can you give a PASTEBIN of:  uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'    thanks
[02:43] <Stupendoussteve> ivanBliminse: It was a known bug with wubi, I'm not seeing anything about actual installs of 11.10, might try the alternate cd
[02:43] <ivanBliminse> stupendoussteve, downloading that now.. my last hope lol
[02:44] <qmr> how can I forcefully install a package ignoring dependencies?
[02:44] <cheekee> cajunspice: The blu-ray drive works although it is is strangely labelled floppy0. The problem is that I can't write anything to it.
[02:45] <cajunspice> cheekee: that's very strange
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> qmr: I strongly advise you DON'T but you can tell apt-get to only download the package, then run:   sudo dpkg --force-all -i filename.deb
[02:46] <jpk> hi, quick question:  how do you change the default terminal emulator in 11.10?  when i press ctrl+alt+t, i get one terminal, and i want to use another.  in 11.04, this could be changed in a preferred applications applet somewhere.  i can't find that in 11.10.
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> qmr: the whole idea of a package based OS is so that apps get deps met, circumventing this will make you not able to install ANY other packages
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> qmr: or updates, or anything
[02:47] <Stupendoussteve> linocisco: Did you set up a recovery key in the window that popped up when you first booted?
[02:47] <qmr> well as soon as pulse audio gets fixed get back to me :P
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> jpk: sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator      perhaps
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> qmr: its fixed
[02:47] <qmr> ActionParsnip: false
[02:47] <tabaxter_> Stupendoussteve: Nope. a half an hour off finishing the install stage.
[02:47] <cheekee> cajunspice: stranger still, there is NO floppy0 listed in /dev even though...the blu-ray drive clearly works and is listed as floppy0
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> qmr: works here so it must be
[02:47] <gantry> has anyone installed a gnome-shell extension from the software center?
[02:48] <qmr> I tried playing a game and simultaneously running teamspeak and everything went to hell
[02:48] <tabaxter_> Stupendoussteve: I'm tempted to just offer the electrician muffins to hold off for the necessary amount of time, but he appears pretty rushed.
[02:48] <linocisco> Stupendoussteve: I am not sure , bro
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> darkfears: its a terminal command, run it as one then copy the output. Head over to http://pastie.org  and paste the text there and hit paste, when the page changes. Copy the new address in the address bar and paste that here
[02:48] <cajunspice> it cheekee: do you have an actual floppy drive?
[02:48] <qmr> http://pastebin.com/RKucHBnp :/
[02:48] <linocisco> Stupendoussteve: I thought I didn't
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> qmr: are you using a Creative Audigy sound card by any chance?
[02:50] <cheekee> cajunspice: yes I do, I remember noticing both floppy and floppy0 in /dev, 30 mins ago, now both are unlisted
[02:50] <Stupendoussteve> linocisco: Wouldn't be very secure if you could decrypt without knowing any of the authentication details, no?
[02:50] <VxQe> My network connection keeps dropping out when I try to use samba in ubuntu. I can browse shares from my windows partition on the same box.
[02:50] <VxQe> And this has worked previously
[02:50] <templet> what lightscribe printing solutions are there for ubuntu natty ?
[02:50] <qmr> ActionParsnip: don't think so.. intel something something.  why do you ask?
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> qmr: Creative stuff can cause a lot of issues
[02:51] <Stupendoussteve> templet: checked https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LightScribe ?
[02:51] <qmr> I see..
[02:51] <cajunspice> cheekee: I wish I could figure out your problem, but I'm stuped
[02:51] <cajunspice> stumped
[02:51] <templet> appreciate it Stupendoussteve
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> Stupendoussteve: beat me to it
[02:52] <cajunspice> cheekee: oh wait, in your /etc/udev directory, do you have a file for persistant cd rules?
[02:53] <Gskellig> my cursor in ubuntu keeps randomly becoming huge
[02:53] <Gskellig> can't figure out how to fix it
[02:54] <jpk> ActionParsnip: Hm, that seems to change the terminal that opens when you invoke x-terminal-emulator, but the one that opens with the keyboard shortcut didn't change
[02:55] <cheekee> cajunspice: yes I do
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> jpk: ok then unset CTRL+ALT+T then make a new shortcut to run x-terminal-emulator and it will work
[02:56] <cajunspice> cheekee: /etc/udev/rules.d/persistent-cd.rules might be at fault
[02:56] <cajunspice> cheekee: that file controls how drives are named
[02:56] <cheekee> cajunspice: It still has my old DVD drive listed so it seems like I have 3 DVD drives
[02:57] <cajunspice> cheeke: that's probably whats confusing things
[02:57] <jpk> ActionParsnip: How do I do that?  The keyboard shortcut applet just lets me change the keybinding for "Launch Terminal", but nothing else.
[02:57] <Gskellig> anyone?
[02:58] <Gskellig> mouse is giant in firefox, normal in xchat, except when i go to click on a link or type in a box, then it gets giant again
[02:58] <cajunspice> Gskellig: isn't there a desktop setting that makes the cursor grow when moved?
[02:59] <cheekee> cajunspice: it even has entries for my pendrives...If I rename the file will anything go badly wrong?
[02:59] <cajunspice> cheekee: don't rename the file
[02:59] <Gskellig> cajunspice, I don't know, but that doesn't sound like my problem
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> jpk: make a new shortcut, i'm not sure how it's done in gnome but this may help
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut | jpk
[02:59] <cajunspice> cheekee: make a backup copy of the file, and edit the entries in it
[03:00] <SetiAmon> Hey I'm running oneiric and i have a question.Believe it or not i have never done this so please bare with me
[03:00] <ParadigmUltra> Unity keeps losing mouse controls.  I suddenly can't gain focus on any windows.  Can anyone tell me why?
[03:00] <darkfears> ActionParsnip: did you get the PASTEBIN link?
[03:00] <Gskellig> I'm on oneirc
[03:00] <SetiAmon> I want to burn my mp3s into a playable mp3 cd for the car,what do i use?thats doable right?
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> darkfears: indeed
[03:01] <dr_willis> SetiAmon: yes its doable
[03:01] <cajunspice> SetiAmon: you could use mkisofs to combine all the mp3 files into one iso image, and then burn that
[03:02] <VxQe> Everytime I browse an SMB share, ubuntu forgets how to talk networking for about 30 seconds. :/
[03:02] <dr_willis> SetiAmon: i use k3b with the mp3 plugin but other apps exist also
[03:03] <SetiAmon> Luck i had just installed k3b yesterday
[03:03] <SetiAmon> so i can burn/play MP3's and they will play on a modern cd player? I remember back in the day i had to use wav or redbook or something.
[03:04] <SetiAmon> but i can fit all 100 or so songs onto a cd.I wonder if modern cd players can play mp3 DVDs?
[03:04] <cajunspice> SetiAmon: are you talking about a plain old cd player or one that can play mp3 data discs?
[03:04] <SetiAmon> man i'm so old/behind
[03:04] <dr_willis> SetiAmon: some can
[03:04] <SetiAmon> its a cd for a friends car,he drives a BMW so i imagine its a modern CD player
[03:04] <Gskellig> SetiAmon, just before the ipod became popular, you could buy CD-mp3 players
[03:05] <Gskellig> but not all CD players can play MP3
[03:05] <ectabyte> Is there a way I can just permanently disable the automute features on alsamixer?
[03:05] <Gskellig> only a few
[03:05] <SetiAmon> i have anotehr cd player from the 90's i'm sure wouldn't work
[03:05] <Gskellig> and they are clearly advertised
[03:05] <dr_willis> SetiAmon: make a data cd and see
[03:05] <ectabyte> feature*
[03:05] <cajunspice> SetiAmon: ok, so find out the format of a disc that definitely plays in it, and make one like that
[03:05] <SetiAmon> i'll try and burn a single cd
[03:05] <christopher> Um hello
[03:05] <Gskellig> can someone help me with my cursor problem? randomly huge size cursor
[03:05] <DrChuncks> hello =) i am new to ubuntu
[03:06] <christopher> I got a question and i want the Ubuntu Community to vote on it
[03:06] <Gskellig> ask away christopher
[03:06] <christopher> U know itunes
[03:06] <screenCMD> I've heard of it
[03:06] <Gskellig> itunes?
[03:06] <christopher> How they have all that music, how come Ubuntu hasn't come out with open source music distributer
[03:06] <cajunspice> Gskellig: from your description, it's not random, it's being done to the cursor by the apps you're running
[03:07] <ActionParsnip> christopher: ubuntuone has a music store...
[03:07] <dr_willis> it has... ;-)
[03:07] <Stupendoussteve> christopher: The red dress
[03:07] <christopher> Is it free, open source music
[03:07] <Gskellig> cajunspice, i think its the cursor... Multiple apps have similar problems
[03:07] <christopher> let me look into it...
[03:07] <Stupendoussteve> christopher: I am sure there are free songs, however open source doesn't mean free in price
[03:07] <screenCMD> https://one.ubuntu.com/
[03:08] <christopher> I know
[03:08] <Stupendoussteve> and music doesn't generally have source code
[03:08] <ectabyte> If I wanted to apply this patch http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/bug-631963-patch-alsa-hda-disable-automute-feature-by-default-help-204087371.html would I copy the text after "Ben." into a file then "patch /path/to/file" ?
[03:08] <cajunspice> christopher, they'd end up like piratebay and napster
[03:08] <selix> um banshee is ubuntus answer to itunes
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> !patch | ectabyte
[03:08] <christopher> but i found a site providing all free "open source"music and i feel it should be distributed properly
[03:08] <Gskellig> in xchat for example the normal cursor is fine, but the cursor for clicking a link or typing in a box are enormous
[03:08] <linocisco> Stupendoussteve: the thing is I wanna get it back. That is my personal laptop. I need to use it
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> christopher: there are sites with legal torrents too with music for free legally
[03:08] <Stupendoussteve> Sounds like you found a site distributing it appropriately
[03:09] <Gskellig> in the desktop, the mouse seems fine
[03:09] <selix> music does not have source, music players do.
[03:09] <Gskellig> in firefox the cursor is always huge
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> christopher: sites like http://www.legittorrents.info/
[03:09] <SetiAmon> dr_willis:  Hey k3b says i have to convert mp3 into wav files to burn them to a audio cd?
[03:09] <christopher> Yet i don't like going through third party sites i'd rather go through a OS i trust
[03:09] <Stupendoussteve> linocisco: Did you keep a backup? If you encrypted your home, forgot the passwords and did not set a recovery, it is stuck encrypted
[03:09] <VxQe> Hmm if I ping another box for a while, I get like 48% packet drops. :/
[03:09] <SetiAmon> dr_willis:  how do i make a playable MP3 cd with k3b
[03:09] <screenCMD> going through iTunes isn't going through an OS
[03:09] <ectabyte> ubottu: So I have to download the source of alsamixer then use the patch on that?
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> VxQe: what medium does the link use?
[03:09] <VxQe> ethernet?
[03:09] <VxQe> Cable?
[03:10] <ectabyte> Damn :(
[03:10] <cajunspice> SetiAmon: it only needs to be an audio cd for old-school cd-audio-only players
[03:10] <Gskellig> plus i doubt apps are causing this problem, I just installed 11.10 like an hour ago
[03:10] <Gskellig> all I've installed is xchat
[03:10] <Stupendoussteve> christopher: I think it's up to publishers to add their music to the music store
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> VxQe: yep, that's right :)
[03:10] <dr_willis> SetiAmon:  thats why i mentioned the use of a j3b plugin /extra package to automate ut.
[03:10] <Gskellig> and it had the problem before that
[03:10] <ectabyte> Oh wrong person anyone
[03:10] <Stupendoussteve> or artists in some cases
[03:10] <ectabyte> anyway*
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> VxQe: ok then possibly a bad cable or a bad port on the connection device
[03:10] <christopher> Ok let me retype, A trusted Software
[03:10] <dr_willis> !mp3
[03:10] <SetiAmon> dr_willis:  whats the name of the package i need to install to make a mp3 CD on k3b?
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> VxQe: or bad port on the system or bad driver settings
[03:11] <ectabyte> ActionParsnip: So I would need to get the source of alsamixer then apply the patch to that and reinsall it?
[03:11] <dr_willis> SetiAmon:  read the url and or check k3b faq. i dont recall
[03:11] <SetiAmon> found out  sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3
[03:11] <linocisco> Stupendoussteve: so what do I do ?
[03:11] <dr_willis> looks about right
[03:12] <VxQe> I found some stuff related to the MTU earlier but I couldn't make any progress. And this only happens in ubu, windows is fine.
[03:12] <linocisco> Stupendoussteve:  using boot live CD, can i do something ?
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> ectabyte: I guess so, not sure
[03:12] <christopher> I've been with Ubuntu for about a year it has its flaws but better then the BSOD i got with XP
[03:12] <ectabyte> Okay, I'll try it hopefully wont break it.
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> VxQe: what chip does the ethernet controller use?
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> VxQe: sudo lshw -C network     will tell you
[03:13] <ectabyte> Well no source package for alsamixer using apt-get source
[03:14] <ectabyte> is there a way I can set the settings of alsamixer using one command?
[03:14] <ParadigmUltra> I'm having a very BIG flaw with Ubuntu.  I lose window focus, and I can't click on anything!
[03:14] <Stupendoussteve> linocisco: You may be able to log in to the account using the steps at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[03:14] <Stupendoussteve> However, it will be very broken
[03:14] <cajunspice> VxQe, do you have a hub, or is it a direct connection?
[03:14] <Stupendoussteve> I would suggest creating a new user or reinstalling
[03:14] <Phydo> Can anyone help me with an NDISwrapper issue?  I have my wireless driver installed under 11.10, and it shows that the hardware is indeed attached, but it still wont show the wireless device
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> ParadigmUltra: if you ALT+TAB, does it help?
[03:15] <linocisco> Stupendoussteve:  What I am so disappointed, whenever I changed password for account with encrypted home folder, why would that happen ?
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> Phydo: is ndiswrapper loaded into the kernel using modprobe?
[03:15] <Phydo> actionparsnip: I believe so.  I used the option for it, and it seemed to succeed
[03:15] <VxQe> ActionParsnip, it's an RTL8111/8168B, probably not cable since it works in windows?
[03:15] <VxQe> How would I adjust driver settings?
[03:16] <Stupendoussteve> linocisco: Do you know the password for the account?
[03:16] <Phydo> actionparsnip: and I believe my computer may be suddenly dying.  one second
[03:16] <Phydo> lol
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> Phydo: if you run:  sudo modprobe ndiswrapper    does it give any errors?
[03:16] <linocisco> Stupendoussteve: yes.
[03:16] <ParadigmUltra> ActionParsnip: Not usually Alt tab, but sometimes Alt Super would work, but only sometimes.  I don't have that active right now because I rest Compiz to defaults,in hopes that the issue would go away
[03:17] <cajunspice> VxQe: realtek is considered the world's worst ethernet
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> VxQe: http://www.rvdavid.net/how-to-get-gigabit-speeds-from-rtl81118168b-pci-express-gigabit-ethernet-controller-on-ubuntu-linux/
[03:18] <VxQe> ActionParsnip, that's not an issue, everything shows up as 1GB/s
[03:18] <Phydo> actionparsnip: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper gives no output
[03:18] <VxQe> Would it be worth install the rtl proprietarydriver?
[03:19] <ectabyte> How can I permanently disable the automute alsamixer option?
[03:19] <zruty> In Pidgin, is there a way I do not have to see all those 'left the room' messages?
[03:19] <cajunspice> VxQe, how many lost packets do you get if you lower the speed to 100mbit/sec?
[03:20] <eN_Joy> hi all i just upgraded to 11.10 and it seems like i can't find libXt.so any more, what package should i apt-get? thanks
[03:20] <SetiAmon> Ugh WTF dr_willis hey man i instaleld the codec and it said it was going to burn it mp3 but instead it burnt it .wav whats up with that
[03:20] <Stupendoussteve> linocisco: So you change the login password, but it did not update the encrypted passphrase so your home will not unlock?
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> Phydo: ok thats good, try your network device
[03:20] <templet> i want to burn a lighscribe image of ubuntu natty 11.04 but cannot find a cd image for that disk in the form of png or jpg anywhere.  where can i look ?  something to impose on a cd
[03:21] <holmescn> nowadays, I prefer to use rsync to instead of cp with --progress, then i can see the progress of copying and also the speed. but is there some disadvantage to do that?
[03:21] <jaz-dev> Is anyone else having issues with Flash since the update?
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> templet: find ANY image and you can use imagemagick to convert it
[03:21] <cajunspice> SetiAmon: it sounds like what you wanted it to do was to burn a data disc
[03:21] <Phydo> actionparsnip: I do iwconfig and nothing shows up, and nothing shows up if I go to the network connections section
[03:22] <holmescn> jaz-dev, yes, flash won't work in my chrome.
[03:22] <Phydo> actionparsnip: but it shows up in lsusb, and the ndisgtk shows it's installed and connected
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> Phydo: if you run:  sudo iwlist scan    do you see access points?
[03:22] <z0x1c> Any ideas why Compiz might ignore CCSM settings?
[03:22] <Phydo> actionparsnip: no interfaces suport scanning
[03:22] <ParkerR> Hey
[03:23] <Phydo> actionparsnip Sorry, this is my first ndis experience.  I hate to be a burden :P
[03:23] <SetiAmon> I want to burn mp3's on a cd that will play on my cd player in the car cajunspice
[03:23] <SetiAmon> in other words i don't want .wav files i want .mp3 files on the cd formated to play on a modern cd player
[03:23] <jaz-dev> holmescn I've been digging around for a while, I'll let you know if I find anything.
[03:23] <linocisco> Stupendoussteve: bro, I am still not successfully logged inside.
[03:23] <cajunspice> SetiAmon: what did you get from your attempt with k3b? a data disc with wave files or an audio disc?
[03:24] <holmescn> jaz-dev, thank you.
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> Phydo: which wireless chip do you have?
[03:24] <jaz-dev> holmescn: i take it you are using x64?
[03:24] <SetiAmon> it said it was mp3 format etc and i burnt it but the cd in the disk was a wav file.it turned it into a wav instead of perserving the mp3
[03:24] <linocisco> Stupendoussteve:  as I have only one account
[03:24] <Phydo> Actionparsnip: It's a wnda3100v2
[03:24] <SetiAmon> I choose audio cd btw
[03:24] <akira_> what terminal code allows me to remove pokerstars? it was working then it suddendly stopped- must i remove than re-install?
[03:24] <holmescn> jaz-dev: yup
[03:25] <holmescn> flashplugin64-installer from ppa
[03:25] <cajunspice> SetiAmon: if you chose audio cd, then it converts the mp3 to wave, it has to
[03:25] <Phydo> actionparsnip: Driver says "bcmwlhigh6"
[03:26] <Stupendoussteve> linocisco: How did you change the password, was it on the command line with passwd or in the gui?
[03:26] <holmescn> SetiAmon: choose data disc
[03:26] <cajunspice> SetiAmon: if you want a disc full of mp3 files, you have to burn it as a data disc
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> Phydo: may help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1383708
[03:26] <darkfears> methinks ActionParsnip some kind of IBM AI .lol. Good multitasker
[03:26] <linocisco> Stupendoussteve: it was changed using command line , passwd username
[03:27] <SetiAmon> cajunspice:  do i have to do anything special to get a CAR cd player to play the mp3's?
[03:27] <Chaosratt> Having an odd issue with a fresh install of 11.10 server and gnome desktop
[03:27] <Stupendoussteve> linocisco: That is the cause of your trouble, passwd does not update the encryption passphrase (the gui does)
[03:27] <akira_> buy a mp3 player headunit
[03:27] <Chaosratt> Loads the logon screen just fine, but when I logon the screen flickers black and I'm right back at the logon screen
[03:27] <Stupendoussteve> linocisco: if you know the old password, if you change the used password back to that it should work, or you could update the encryption passphrase but you must know the old password
[03:28] <cajunspice> SetiAmon: if it's a modern player that can handle mp3 data discs, then you don't have to do anything too special. just find an mp3 data disc that you know plays in it, and use the same format
[03:29] <SetiAmon> Ok so just data disk burning mp3's without any special do dads
[03:29] <akira_> a stock car radio 9/10 will not play an mp3 file unless its a new model- anything 5 years or older requires a new headunit
[03:29] <cajunspice> SetiAmon: in other words, find out how it wants the files named, and what iso format it expects
[03:29] <akira_> this is completely determined by the brand of car- and what options as well
[03:30] <akira_> iso and mp3 files should never be in the same sentence
[03:30] <holmescn> My friend's new car just need a usb stick to play mp3
[03:30] <cajunspice> SetiAmon: the key is finding a mp3 disc that you know plays in it
[03:30] <akira_> exactly "new"
[03:30] <SetiAmon> I'm just burning a data disk in k3b and going to test it out and see if it plays
[03:30] <SetiAmon> BRb goin to pop it in and see
[03:31] <akira_> you can burn a data disk with any operating system but if your car has a old stock player it aint ganna play unless its *.wav
[03:31] <zappus> Hello everyone
[03:31] <Gskellig> cursors still randomly huge
[03:31] <Gskellig> I think it has to do with the accessibility settings, but I can't find where to change them
[03:32] <cajunspice> Gskellig: which window manager are you using?
[03:32] <zappus> is there a way to lock down the left side panel from constantly auto-hiding? in 11.10
[03:32] <akira_> you actually want that to appear?
[03:32] <akira_> x.x
[03:32] <zappus> i like it :D
[03:32] <Phydo> actionparsnip: nothing on there other than what I did.  and most of the people can't do it.  I almost can't believe it says [solved] lol
[03:32] <Gskellig> cajunspice, unity. I installed 11.10 like an hour ago. Vanilla everything, just xchat
[03:33] <zappus> If i didn't want it showing id stick with xfce :P
[03:33] <akira_> its buggy
[03:33] <zappus> so i cant alter its behaviour?
[03:33] <Phydo> oh well
[03:33] <akira_> i have no idea- i avoid the left side of my screen so i dont have to see it
[03:34] <holmescn> zappus, when you maximized a windows, it will hide
[03:35] <zappus> i don't want it to hide, i want it to stay there all the time :P
[03:35] <holmescn> so i think you can make it disappeared automatic
[03:35] <cajunspice> Gskellig: there should be an accessibility tab
[03:35] <akira_> i believe he wants it to always apear
[03:35] <Stupendoussteve> zappus: You're supposed to be able to change it in compizconfig-settings-manager (ccsm). There is a Unity plugin
[03:35] <Gskellig> cajunspice, the accessibility tab doesn't have anything about cursors though
[03:36] <holmescn> oh, sorry.
[03:36] <cjs> Ctrl-alt-F7/F8/F9 etc. seems to give me different virtual consoles on which I can run an X server. Anybody know an easy way to have, e.g., lightdm running on two at once, so I could easily switch between two users' graphical environments?
[03:36] <zappus> Thanks Stupendoussteve
[03:37] <akira_> anyone here know the ubuntu terminal code to uninstall a program in wine?
[03:37] <holmescn> I just rm it.
[03:37] <akira_> yea but isn't the drive hidden?
[03:37] <holmescn> but i don't know how to remove the menu items
[03:37] <cajunspice> Gskellig: if you look for the cursor themes settings, that might do it
[03:37] <akira_> its a virtual c drive i can't find
[03:38] <linocisco> Stupendoussteve: As I still cant login, how can I change pwd ?
[03:38] <celthunder> akira_: rm -rf .wine/drive_c/program\ files or something like that is where it is
[03:38] <holmescn> akira_ it is in ~/.wine/drive_c
[03:38] <akira_> so cd .. ~/ .wine/drive_c?
[03:38] <Gskellig> where do i find cursor themes?
[03:38] <akira_> or cd .wine
[03:39] <celthunder> akira_: depends where you are and where you want to go?
[03:39] <Satanaa> Gskellig gnome tweaking tool
[03:39] <almoxarife> akira_: is nautilus not available?
[03:39] <akira_> i installed pokerstars- it was working- now it just wont load- im thinking i need a reinstall-
[03:39] <akira_> but i cant find it- and it wont let me reinstall cuz it says its already installed
[03:40] <akira_> no idea what nautilus is
[03:40] <Gskellig> gnome tweaking tool?
[03:40] <Stupendoussteve> Nautilus is the gnome file manager
[03:40] <almoxarife> akira_: no idea what wine is either
[03:40] <cajunspice> Gskellig: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/05/19/how-to-install-cursor-themes/
[03:40] <akira_> i dont even know what gnome means yet t.t
[03:41] <Stupendoussteve> Nautilus is the file manager on a default install
[03:41] <Gskellig> just want the default cursors though =\ lol
[03:41] <magn3ts> Whats the new style for installing 32bit apps in 64land?
[03:41] <magn3ts> !32
[03:41] <VxQe> Right.
[03:41] <akira_> if i use the gui dash home its there- it just wont load
[03:41] <Stupendoussteve> linocisco: I sent you a link to the LostPassword link.  However the realtek installation script is broken. :(
[03:42] <akira_> all i tried to do was listen to a youtube music video and play pokerstars at same time- then it crashed
[03:43] <Gskellig> thanks cajunspice
[03:44] <mikeliss> hi, I ran s2disk --force, and now my system won't boot...it just hangs at the Ubuntu splash screen, with the little dots going from left to right. Help?
[03:44] <cajunspice> you're welcome
[03:45] <akira_> so if you ran a program in wine that worked fine and now it crashed- and wont reload what do you do? whats next?
[03:45] <almoxarife> akira_: same as in windows
[03:46] <akira_> i dont know how to do the same- in linux
[03:46] <akira_> :P
[03:46] <almoxarife> akira_: the issue is within wine=win(doz)
[03:46] <histo> akira_: remove some of the settings files in the .wine folder
[03:46] <histo> akira_: and /j #wine-hq  they have support there
[03:47] <almoxarife> histo: some? just pick some?
[03:47] <emr> after rebooting from install im at grub> ???
[03:47] <histo> akira_: sorry #winehq
[03:47] <histo> almoxarife: well the relevant settings for that application would make sense
[03:47] <h00k> akira_: please keep your language appropriate in here
[03:47] <akira_> little late but ill take note
[03:47] <h00k> akira_: thanks :)
[03:48] <akira_> was trying to prove a point :P
[03:48] <histo> akira_: yeah /j #winehq
[03:48] <histo> akira_: well you can watch youtube in linux
[03:48] <akira_> and my slaptick comedy needs rehab...
[03:48] <histo> akira_: and pokerstars should run under wine.
[03:48] <akira_> it did work fine
[03:48] <histo> akira_: uninstall the app and reinstall it it's winderps who knows
[03:48] <akira_> then i went to youtube to listen to music and its mucked up
[03:48] <ChaosBringer> akira_ what are you trying to install?
[03:49] <akira_> i had pokerstars running fine and working- i tabbed to goto youtube- picked some montgomery gentry- played the music was invovled in a high hand
[03:49] <akira_> on pokerstars then everything froze
[03:49] <akira_> closed screen re logged on- now it wont reload
[03:49] <emr> anyone help me past this grub prompt?
[03:50] <Stupendoussteve> It's okay, your pokerstars avatar runs away to the nearest spawn point
[03:50] <Toph2> in ubuntu 11.10, where do I set the security levels.. I don't want to have to go through the password process every time i bring the computer out of suspension
[03:50] <oracle> I have a networking class which uses Wireshark for the labs, how do I find out what interface I have to configure wireshark to capture from?
[03:51] <Stupendoussteve> Toph2: That one is set in Screen
[03:51] <oracle> like how do I make it find my network adapter
[03:51] <akira_> Monster killllll
[03:51] <oracle> or really, how do I find my network adapter
[03:51] <akira_> mega kill overkill?
[03:51] <ChaosBringer> akira_ that is def a wine issue. (although like everyone said, pokerstars usually runs fine). Did you try rebooting your comp and seeing if it opened then?
[03:51] <akira_> that kind of spawn point ;P
[03:51] <akira_> i havent actually shut down and reset- the icon is there- its just when i click it - nothing happens
[03:51] <ChaosBringer> then
[03:52] <Stupendoussteve> oracle: ifconfig, see which adapter has an ip address or has the address for the lab network
[03:52] <cajunspice> oracle: do you have more than one ethernet?
[03:52] <ChaosBringer> then open the process list
[03:52] <ChaosBringer> and kill it
[03:52] <oracle> no
[03:52] <ChaosBringer> then re-open it
[03:52] <oracle> hold on a sec
[03:52] <akira_> i dont know how to open the process list
[03:52] <akira_> master yoshi
[03:52] <ChaosBringer> Which WM are you using?
[03:52] <ChaosBringer> Window Manager
[03:52] <oracle> wlan0 has an ip
[03:52] <ChaosBringer> Gnome / KDE?
[03:52] <ChaosBringer> unity?
[03:52] <akira_> 11.1 ubuntu- latest wine
[03:52] <cajunspice> then wlan0 is the one
[03:53] <ChaosBringer> Gnome / KDE / Unity?
[03:53] <Stupendoussteve> akira_: System Monitor
[03:53] <oracle> Stupendoussteve: it says I don't have permission to capture on that device
[03:53] <ChaosBringer> Stupendoussteve : Each WM has a different way of getting to it, thats where i was getting at
[03:53] <cajunspice> are you root?
[03:53] <Stupendoussteve> ChaosBringer: And he said earlier he's on Unity
[03:53] <emr> after installing updates in rebooting I'm at a grub prompt. lost! anyhelp?
[03:53] <oracle> hold on, I will be
[03:53] <ChaosBringer> Stupendoussteve : I wasnt here earlier :)
[03:54] <ChaosBringer> akira_, Stupendoussteve is right, Its called System Monitor
[03:54] <akira_> im not even sure where or what that is either ;P
[03:54] <ChaosBringer> rickclick on the process, choose kill
[03:54] <Stupendoussteve> akira_: Hit the windows key and type in system
[03:54] <oracle> cajunspice: I did sudo -s in terminal and it still gives me the same error in wireshark
[03:54] <cajunspice> heh
[03:54] <ChaosBringer> akira_, how would you search for an app in windows 7? its the same in linux lol
[03:55] <soreau> oracle: You most likely need an interface in monitor mode. The easiest way would probably be to install aircrack-ng and run 'sudo airmon-ng start wlan0' which will provide a mon0 interface in most cases
[03:55] <Stupendoussteve> oracle: did you sudo wireshark?
[03:55] <oracle> Stupendoussteve: how do I sudo wireshark?
[03:55] <ChaosBringer> oracle, on a terminal, you do, sudo wireshark&
[03:55] <Stupendoussteve> oracle: sudo wireshark
[03:56] <oracle> so stype: sudo wireshark
[03:56] <oracle> thanks, got it
[03:56] <magn3ts> Whats the new style for installing 32bit apps in 64land?
[03:56] <oracle> !
[03:56] <oracle> :-)
[03:57] <ChaosBringer> ia32libs?
[03:57] <emr> anyone here able to help?
[03:57] <akira_> you guys are wonderful
[03:57] <ChaosBringer> magn3ts, what app are you trying to install?
[03:57] <soreau> nope
[03:57] <magn3ts> ChaosBringer, its different in Oneiric
[03:57] <akira_> thanks.
[03:57] <cajunspice> emr: sure
[03:57] <ChaosBringer> so akira_ are you good now?
[03:57] <magn3ts> ChaosBringer, ADB/Eclipse needs a i386 version of ncurses
[03:57] <ChaosBringer> I have ADB and Eclipse running on 11.10
[03:58] <akira_> works like a charm funny how all these oddball fixes are like the windows alt +ctrl +del windows keys
[03:58] <akira_> end process
[03:58] <magn3ts> well whatever, I'll just install all of ia32libs then lol
[03:58] <emr> cajunspice: stuck at a grub prompt after rebooting from update.
[03:58] <ChaosBringer> not really oddball lol, just u didnt know how to open the System monitor
[03:58] <cajunspice> didn't like the update
[03:59] <akira_> yea lol too much bill gates
[03:59] <ChaosBringer> lol
[03:59] <emr> ha I guess so
[03:59] <akira_> i need an EXTERMINATION
[03:59] <ChaosBringer> glad we can help
[03:59] <akira_> after the ultra kill
[03:59] <cajunspice> it's usually better to do clean installs
[03:59] <emr> what is clean install?
[03:59] <cajunspice> updates are asking for trouble
[04:00] <_Neytiri_> i am having an issue compiling a kernel and i don't know why i am getting this error
[04:00] <Stupendoussteve> emr: Installing from scratch
[04:00] <emr> don't check updates in install?
[04:00] <_Neytiri_> make: *** [debian/stamp/conf/minimal_debian] Error 1 Failed to create a ./debian directory: No such file or directory at /usr/bin/make-kpkg line 971.
[04:00] <cajunspice> a clean install is when you take a freshly zero'ed empty disk and install the new version from scrtach
[04:01] <LuisCarlos> Hi everybody. How can I create a bootable usb stick with ubuntu 11.10 in Debian?
[04:01] <Gskellig> cajunspice, the link you sent me doesn't work for 11.10
[04:01] <cajunspice> no? aww
[04:01] <Stupendoussteve> Sweet. If you set the Unity bar to never hide, applications don't cover it up
[04:01] <Gskellig> its for 11.04 and before
[04:01] <Gskellig> thats what I was looking for with 11.10 and couldn't find it
[04:01] <emr> can
[04:02] <arghx> _Neytiri_: give us the real error. the first one
[04:02] <akira_> in earlier response before you fixed my problem- in win 95 98 NT vista and 7 i hit CTRL alt del :P for system monitor :P
[04:02] <emr> how can I wipe the drive from where im at now?
[04:02] <cajunspice> can you boot the live cd?
[04:02] <mrooney> hey all, what would be the best channel if I'm having trouble using dput to upload to a PPA?
[04:02] <arghx> emr: delete the partition of ubuntu
[04:02] <akira_> sorta like updown updown left right select start :P
[04:02] <Gskellig> I can boot the live cd
[04:03] <emr> when I was installing I asked it to delete partitions
[04:03] <emr> im booting from usb
[04:04] <cajunspice> emr: if you want to wipe the disk, boot the live cd and then try a command like this- "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad0 bs=1m count=<disk size in meg> oseek=0"
[04:04] <emr> sry no live cd
[04:04] <akira_> if your ganna wipe the disk- its best to pull it out- and type format C: /u /s
[04:05] <akira_> for an unconditional full format
[04:05] <soreau> akira_: That's not a default ubuntu command
[04:05] <cajunspice> akira_ : those windows formats don't actually wipe the disk, they just verigy the sectors
[04:05] <akira_> well if your ganna wipe the drive you dont need ubuntu commands
[04:06] <soreau> akira_: Please stay on topic
[04:06] <_Neytiri_> arghx, test -f debian/control || sed         -e 's/=V/<IP_ADDRESS>-ovz32/g'  \                -e 's/=D/1.0/g'         -e 's/=A/amd64/g'  \		-e 's/=SA//g'  \		-e 's/=I//g'				    \		-e 's/=CV/2.6/g'			    \		-e 's/=M/echo "CONCURRENCY_LEVEL := 5" >> /etc/kernel-pkg.confNeytiri<EMAIL_ADDRESS>	    \		-e 's/=ST/linux/g'      -e 's/=B/x86_64/g'    \                  /usr/share/kernel-package/Control > debian/control    sed: -e expression
[04:06] <_Neytiri_> #7, char 41: unknown option to `s'
[04:06] <akira_> yes- technically nothing wipes the drive other than physical distruction of the disk
[04:07] <cajunspice> no akira_, the dd command I gave earlier will zero all secotrs
[04:07] <soreau> akira_: For the purposes of this channel, there are several utilities to wipe the disk including dd
[04:07] <mattalexx_> I pressed Ctrl+Alt+F8 and now I'm getting no video output. How can I get back to the GUI?
[04:07] <Gskellig> wow, even with gnome tweak tool, the mouse cursors won't change
[04:08] <Stupendoussteve> mattalexx_: Alt F7
[04:08] <mattalexx_> Pressing Ctrl+Alt+F7 isn't working to get back to the GUI but I thought it might.
[04:08] <arghx> _Neytiri_: sounds like a kernel-package bug
[04:08] <Gskellig> sorry, they changed but they're still huge
[04:08] <akira_> that is cool that in linux there are commands to 0 the sectors- that is something windows and dos are not capable of doing
[04:08] <Gskellig> even after CHANGING The cursors
[04:08] <mattalexx_> Stupendoussteve, Didn't do anything
[04:08] <akira_> but you still don't "wipe" the drive ;) you just write over it
[04:08] <soreau> mattalexx_: If it's not F1-8, you might need to restart gdm or reboot
[04:08] <_Neytiri_> arghx, is that something i can fix?
[04:08] <arghx> akira_: that is a wipe
[04:08] <akira_> you can still recover previous data :P if you want to be technical
[04:09] <ChaosBringer> Gskellig, did you logout and login?
[04:09] <soreau> ! ot | akira_
[04:09] <ChaosBringer> the cursor change does not take place instantly
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> akira_: you can but it takes ages
[04:09] <Gskellig> well it DID change
[04:09] <Gskellig> but still messed up
[04:09] <Gskellig> I'll definitely try relogging though, thanks brb
[04:09] <edgy> Hi, if I encrypted my home dir, where are the secret keys stored in case I want to back them up? /home/.ecryptfs?
[04:09] <arghx> _Neytiri_: just make-kpkgk with as few options as possible and if it persists, filoe a bug
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> there is an MoD wiper on the ultimate boot CD which switches each bit 7 times, no going back
[04:09] <akira_> yes it can- unless your using a SSD
[04:10] <arghx> ActionParsnip: single overwrite is enough, no more needed
[04:10] <_Neytiri_> k
[04:10] <akira_> any fbi agent will find wiped date in a matter of a few days tho ;)
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> arghx: it can still be recovered after a single wipe, its just tricky
[04:11] <arghx> ActionParsnip: no it cannot. this is arumor, nothing else. we don't use MFM and RLL anymore
[04:11] <Stupendoussteve> akira_: That's actually not very likely on modern drives. The data is much more densly packed
[04:11] <larie> hey
[04:11] <larie> can someone help me with libtranslate?
[04:11] <Stupendoussteve> akira_: And dd will overwrite all data. Reformatting only marks it as unused
[04:11] <akira_> DD overwrites but you need several passes for untraceable
[04:11] <soreau> akira_: Please take it elsewhere
[04:12] <Stupendoussteve> wipe will do it
[04:12] <soreau> Stupendoussteve: enough
[04:13] <Stupendoussteve> I want to securely delete the data on my Ubuntu HD, what utility should I use?
[04:13] <ChaosBringer> a magnet
[04:13] <Stupendoussteve> Thanks!
[04:13] <arghx> Stupendoussteve: dd. all you need
[04:13] <JRandolph> thermite
[04:13] <akira_> take to to a HD shredding machine
[04:14] <akira_> or it will always be recoverable ;)
[04:14] <akira_> ed DD done.
[04:14] <ChaosBringer> Stupendoussteve, http://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ie=UTF-8&ion=1&nord=1#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&safe=off&nord=1&site=webhp&source=hp&q=linux%20zero%20out%20drive&pbx=1&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&fp=a7d5b7030ebfa2c5&ion=1&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&fp=a7d5b7030ebfa2c5&ion=1&biw=1728&bih=921
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> arghx: http://gizmodo.com/5494427/leave-no-trace-how-to-completely-erase-your-hard-drives-ssds-and-thumb-drives  "(aka "zero-filling") is not sufficient to meet government data sanitation (disk wiping) standards such as DoD 5220.22-M or the more comprehensive Standards and Technologies (NIST)"
[04:14] <werever> hi guys, my hard disk have some bad sectors, I will format now to install a clean ubuntu, I have 250GB HD, how do you recommendme partition it and check errors to avoid problems in the future?
[04:15] <ChaosBringer> Yeah, i wasnt kidding when i said a magnet....
[04:15] <ChaosBringer> lol
[04:15] <ChaosBringer> its about the only thing that will blank it out.
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> arghx: your witness
[04:15] <arghx> ActionParsnip: what constitutes legal certitude based on decades old regulations and what the tech on the ground says are different things
[04:15] <ChaosBringer> If you want to encrypt it however
[04:15] <ChaosBringer> Truecrypt
[04:15] <ChaosBringer> is not crackable by anything
[04:16] <Stupendoussteve> werever: smart should remap some bad sectors, however you can do a scan with badblocks
[04:16] <purpleyuan> Hey all. I'm attempting to use rc.local to run a couple of commands at startup; I put the commands into the file, but when I boot up nothing happens. Could someone please help me figure out what I am doing wrong?
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> arghx: purpleyuan do you add them above the exit 0 line?
[04:17] <Gskellig> relogged in, still screwed up cursors
[04:17] <Gskellig> color changed, size is still huge
[04:17] <purpleyuan> ActionParsnip: Yep.
[04:17] <cajunspice> Gskellig: what's your screen resolution?
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> arghx: well all your argument is based on you "saying its so" you have given no citation
[04:17] <akira_> sit farther away from monitor x.x?
[04:17] <Gskellig> 1366x720?
 thanks!, Im doing some research now
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> purpleyuan: ok are there multiple things you have added?
[04:17] <Gskellig> 1366x768 sorry
[04:18] <purpleyuan> ActionParsnip: Yes... am I supposed to add something in between?
[04:18] <cajunspice> Gskellig: I don't know
[04:18] <Gskellig> =\
[04:18] <Gskellig> it happened during install too
[04:18] <cajunspice> it might be a video card thing
[04:19] <akira_> its prob best to report bug to ubuntu site- as its open source universe drivers
[04:19] <Gskellig> seriously
[04:19] <akira_> maybe you have a funny video card where the drives are improperly working
[04:19] <Gskellig> video card thing? wouldn't surprise me. This laptop has two video cards
[04:19] <akira_> what is your base system?
[04:19] <Gskellig> graphics switching
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> purpleyuan: you can add something like:  echo 1 >> /home/username/test.txt    between each line, make sure the lines are being processed
[04:19] <cajunspice> Gskellig: what kind of video card do you have?
[04:19] <akira_> maybe its trying to switch between duel monitors
[04:20] <Gskellig> i had lots of problems with previous versions of ubuntu on this laptop
[04:20] <akira_> can you take one out?
[04:20] <akira_> oro are they sli?
[04:20] <Gskellig> its a laptop...
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> purpleyuan: what sort of things do the commands do?
[04:20] <akira_> yea so ?
[04:20] <lorin`> .set theme lyynx
[04:20] <cajunspice> Gskellig: what video driver does it say it's using?
[04:20] <akira_> laptops are desktops :P just takes 2hrs longer to open
[04:20] <Gskellig> its an integrated intel GMA something and a Geforce G210M
[04:20] <soreau> purpleyuan: In rc.local, you need to specify the full path to the command because of a sterile environment
[04:20] <Gskellig> how do i check that?
[04:21] <Gskellig> in the past i have had to manually disable the Geforce just to get more than 30 mins battery life
[04:21] <toto> hello
[04:21] <Gskellig> in which case I got like 10+ hours...
[04:21] <purpleyuan> ActionParsnip, soreau: I configuring my touchpad. So the commands are: synclient FastTaps=1
[04:21] <purpleyuan> etc.
[04:21] <akira_> you got a integrated gaming performance laptop wow
[04:21] <akira_> never thought they existed
[04:21] <harshada> Hey any idea/link abt installing windows through virtual box inside ubuntu 11.04???
[04:21] <cajunspice> I suppose you could try switching it to the VESA driver, it might help
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> purpleyuan: doesn't that need running as user?
[04:21] <Guest50830> do you know where to configure the keyboard layout for the login screen under 11.10 ?
[04:21] <arghx> ActionParsnip: just sa single google https://www.infosecisland.com/blogview/16130-The-Urban-Legend-of-Multipass-Hard-Disk-Overwrite.html for example
[04:21] <Stupendoussteve> harshada: Start Virtualbox and it will prompt you
[04:21] <Gskellig> with windows i can switch on the fly between the discrete and the performance graphics cards
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> arghx: reading
[04:22] <Gskellig> there was some progress being made with support for a similar function for linux
[04:22] <arghx> ActionParsnip: note on where the info about overwriting comes from...
[04:22] <Gskellig> VESA driver?
[04:22] <purpleyuan> ActionParsnip: Er... Actually, I don't know. Gosh, I'm a real noob at all these things. Where would I put something like that?
[04:22] <soreau> purpleyuan: Yes, everything in rc.local will be run as root so do not put user commands there.
[04:22] <cajunspice> yes, ubuntu comes with a variety of drivers for you to choose from
[04:22] <mosno> what the? "The entire disk will be used: Ubuntu /dev/sda (ext4)" -- since when does a filesystem go on the disk device? shouldn't this read /dev/sda1 or something?
[04:22] <visitor1> i want to use mupdf, i dowloaded it and extracted itbut cant start it? anyone can help?
[04:22] <Gskellig> www.martin-juhl.dk <--- that guy is working on a software called "bumblebee" and "ironhide" which support graphics switching for intel/nvidia graphics cards on linux
[04:23] <Stupendoussteve> mosno: Badly worded, it will create the partitions
[04:23] <Gskellig> cajunspice, its more than just drivers, in order to get it working correctly I need to disable one graphics card
[04:23] <mosno> Stupendoussteve, yep, that's my point exactly
[04:23] <akira_> yea- the fbi can take 1/4 inch of of your HD disk after you destroyed it with a hammer and ran DDkill - etc etc and still recover data- so point is null if you really want to erase a hard drive you have to make it disappear- SSD are even harder to wipe