[11:48] <user_asdf_> hey, is there an opportunity to see the current window size of my network interface? i want to check, if it run out of space. i'm running ubuntu 12.04 LTS server
[11:50] <iDangerMouse> helpmeplease: if that doesn't work, http://askubuntu.com/questions/206283/how-can-i-uninstall-a-nvidia-driver-completely
[11:50] <iDangerMouse> Follow this and reinstall the drivers using the first link
[11:54] <iDangerMouse> blazemore: user gone.
[11:57] <blazemore> iDangerMouse: Yes thanks I saw
[11:57] <iDangerMouse> blazemore: apologies, lagging.
[11:57] <blazemore> user_asdf_: What do you mean by window size? MTU?
[11:58] <user_asdf_> blazemore: no, not the MTU. i mean the stack of my network interface
[11:59] <blazemore> user_asdf_: Can you give me an example of what sort of value you would expect to see?
[12:00] <K1CKA55> I'm trying to resize the EXT4 parition of my ubuntu making it bigger from a delete NTFS partition that used to house a NTFS windows partition.
[12:00] <K1CKA55> I'm unsure how to do this thou last time i resized an parition on a SSD it wouldn't boot the partition i made bigger.
[12:00] <K1CKA55> Could i have some guidance
[12:00] <user_asdf_> blazemore: in my opinion the network interface has an stack, where it get all internet communications. but this stack got a limit, and i dont want to see the limit, but the actual size
[12:00] <blazemore> user_asdf_: What is the current limit?
[12:00] <blazemore> K1CKA55: Use the "gparted" program
[12:01] <helpmeplease> Now I get udev fallback graphics main process terminated with status 1
[12:01] <K1CKA55> blazemore: on the liveCD because extending a live parition isn't possible
[12:01] <glambert> Running this query on the master server works fine:
[12:01] <glambert> mysql -uroot -p**** -h<IP_ADDRESS> -P3307 -e "flush privileges; create user 'slave-host'@'%' identified by 'test'; grant replication slave on *.* to 'slave-host'@'%'; grant replication client on *.* to 'slave-host'@'%';"
[12:01] <user_asdf_> blazemore: 64kbit, maybe ^^ wait a minute, i will search the net
[12:01] <glambert> however running it over ssh from another host fails
[12:01] <blazemore> K1CKA55: Yes, on the LiveCD
[12:01] <helpmeplease> Any idea?
[12:01] <K1CKA55> blazemore: Thank you
[12:01] <glambert> with ERROR 1046 (3D000) at line 1: No database selected
[12:01] <universal> varunendra: yea, nm was configured to connect automatically to network thats why it was reconnecting every time I did "nmcli con down id <id>", disbaling the option solved the problem and it disconnected permanently with the same command. it just slipped my mind, thnx but now how to enable/disable that automatic option frm nmcli or terminal ?
[12:01] <glambert> I'm assuming some sort of issue with ssh evaluating commands
[12:02] <glambert> probably with the *.*
[12:02] <glambert> any ideas?
[12:02] <blazemore> Yes glambert that is why, give me a sec
[12:02] <wsk233> does anyone know why my make is failing http://pastebin.com/jESpUztK
[12:02] <blazemore> glambert: ssh hostname 'mysql... blah blah'
[12:02] <blazemore> glambert: Make sure you use single quotes
[12:04] <blazemore> !info memcached
[12:04] <blazemore> wsk233: You don't need to compile it, there's an already compiled and packaged version in the repositories
[12:05] <wsk233> blazemore i want the memcached php extension
[12:05] <wsk233> i already have a memcached server running
[12:05] <wsk233> this is not the memcached server but the php extension
[12:05] <varunendra> universal, I don't know the nmcli command (will have to look at it), but from terminal, I'd simply edit the 'key file' for the connection (in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections directory).
[12:05] <iDangerMouse> wsk233: follow, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-and-use-memcache-on-ubuntu-12-04
[12:06] <angryuser> Hello, i have setuped a bondinf with 2 interfaces, mode 0 (load balancing) Can someone tell me if the interfaces should have the same HWADDR or MAC declared, or not ?
[12:07] <blazemore> !info php5-memcached
[12:07] <blazemore> wsk233: install ^
[12:07] <wsk233> is this also working if i have a self compiled php 5.3?
[12:07] <blazemore> I would assume so
[12:08] <iDangerMouse> Not sure.
[12:08] <blazemore> Ubuntu's PHP configuration is fairly vanilla
[12:08] <inroel> hi everyone, I'm not getting any sound from movie player
[12:08] <inroel> it worked until an hour ago
[12:08] <blazemore> wsk233: Did you use apt-get to build the sources, or did you go completely outside the Ubuntu ecosystem
[12:08] <blazemore> inroel: check the volume
[12:08] <user_asdf_> blazemore: sysctl -n net.ipv4.tcp_wmem
[12:09] <blazemore> user_asdf_: That sets the buffer size for a TCP socket
[12:09] <Ashva> Hi, I have install ubuntu on vaio Z series. I wanna know is it possible to install a driver for laptop's  fingerprint device?
[12:09] <blazemore> The word you were looking for wasn't "window" or "stack" but "buffer" :)
[12:09] <varunendra> universal, did you get my last reply to your question ?
[12:09] <blazemore> What Ubuntu version, Ashva
[12:09] <inroel> blazemore, thank you. it was indeed the volume of the player, but strangely, I also got a volume problem fix window
[12:09] <universal> varunendra: no....i got dc
[12:10] <Ashva> blazemore: 12.04
[12:10] <user_asdf_> blazemore: sysctl -n net.core.rmem_max; but this is the max stack size of the tcp window size, isnt it?
[12:10] <inroel> blazemore: even a sound beep test was made with headphone left-right
[12:10] <varunendra> universal, "I don't know the nmcli command (will have to look at it), but from terminal, I'd simply edit the 'key file' for the connection (in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections directory)."
[12:11] <varunendra> universal, it is the "autoconnect=false" line that has to be removed to enable it (not sure if setting it to "true" will work).
[12:11] <Ashva> blazemore: 12.04 LTS
[12:11] <blazemore> user_asdf_: wmem is send buffer memory per socket, and rmem is incoming buffer size I think
[12:12] <universal> varunendra: its a manula way of doing it.....i was hoping if there is a way from terminal.....also how to use 'nmcli con permissions' command coz it shows entries but all those entries are not shown in dconf or with gsettings terminal command
[12:12] <universal> manual*
[12:14] <varunendra> universal, like I mentioned, I'm not much familiar with nmcli commands. I can answer only after reading the 'man' for it, and trying ;)
[12:14] <iDangerMouse> blazemore: Later dude.
[12:15] <zokko> hello folks
[12:15] <zokko> how can i add real fqdn entry in /etc/hosts while using cloud-init ?
[12:15] <zokko> where should i put proper lines, and which template should i use?
[12:16] <user_asdf_> blazemore: is the rmem size the current size of the buffer?
[12:17] <DamienCassou> hi
[12:18] <wsk233> blazemore i go totaly outside the ubuntu sources
[12:18] <wsk233> i used the php sources to compile it by hand
[12:19] <wsk233> PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: memcached: Unable to initialize module
[12:19] <wsk233> Module compiled with module API=20090626
[12:19] <wsk233> PHP    compiled with module API=20100525
[12:19] <wsk233> These options need to match
[12:19] <FloodBot1> wsk233: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:20] <wsk233> i think this php5-memcached is for a newer version of php
[12:22] <universal> varunendra: hmm...ok no problem, I appreciate your help, but read it if you have some free time :),  its a small utility with not so long manpage. also I had one more question reagrding nmcli - everytime I connect to a network with command 'nmcli dev wifi connect SSID [password <pass>]", it creates a duplicate entry for the connection meaning "Connection 1" Connection 2" "Connection 3" and so on upto the no. of times I connect with
[12:22] <user_asdf_> blazemore: i was searching a little bit, and its just the maximum size (like its called in the name ^^). do you have an idea how i'm able to see the current size of the buffer?
[12:24] <varunendra> universal, I have seen it a few times (the man page for nmcli), but never felt the need to be dependent on it, so couldn't remember the things I used with it (yeah, I'm ignorant, now you know it ;)).
[12:25] <universal> varunendra: lol
[12:25] <DamienCassou> when I plug an external monitor on my laptop, it works perfectly. But when I plug an external projector, it is not detected (by neither Displays nor xrandr)
[12:25] <DamienCassou> can somebody help me please?
[12:25] <universal> just do nmcli help and there will be no need to read the full manpage varunendra
[12:26] <wsk233> i think this php5-memcached is for a newer version of php
[12:26] <wsk233> does anyone know why my make is failing http://pastebin.com/jESpUztK
[12:27] <varunendra> universal, right now I'm in the man page, trying to figure out if the existing key file can be use instead of SSID for a wifi connection..
[12:27] <universal> hmm
[12:28] <varunendra> universal, looks like "nmcli con <connection id> up" ?
[12:29] <universal> ok 'll dc and try it
[12:29] <varunendra> universal, oh correction
[12:29] <universal> lol...what ? I was about to be dc'ed
[12:29] <varunendra> it should be "nmcli con up id <connection id>"
[12:30] <varunendra> hopefully ;P
[12:30] <universal> it connects the connection
[12:30] <quickquestion> quick question, just got my first dedi-box. I've only had vps before. in the ticket they included my ip and network information, and my login credentials. They listed it as customer/sudo su and a password. I've tried root as username but I can't login. Am i missing something?
[12:30] <universal> not sets it to automatically connect whenever available varunendra
[12:31] <jrib> quickquestion: ask them.
[12:31] <quickquestion> K
[12:31] <jrib> quickquestion: and please don't sudo su.  See ubottu
[12:31] <jrib> !sudo | quickquestion
[12:31] <nodie> hi
[12:31] <varunendra> universal, the autoconnect part seems to be not covered by nmcli (or not mentioned in the man page)
[12:31] <universal> !cli
[12:32] <nodie> I'm trying to configure the rsyslog of a ubuntu 13.04 to accept external messages
[12:32] <universal> varunendra: yea thats what I'm trying to tell and ask
[12:32] <varunendra> :D
[12:32] <hke> quickquestion: use sudo -i
[12:32] <nodie> but even after following the instructions I see in places rsyslog is not listening in the 514 port
[12:32] <nodie> (using TCP)
[12:32] <hke> quickquestion: if you don't know your username, ask the provider.
[12:32] <nodie> do I need to change in some way /etc/defaults/rsyslog ?
[12:33] <universal> varunendra: and how to use that "nmcli con permissions" command ? those enntries are not listed in dconf or shown with gsettings
[12:33] <varunendra> universal, do you use 'sed' frequently? It should be easier with it. (with Ctrl+R shortcut in bash terminal)
[12:33] <universal> !sed
[12:34] <universal> varunendra: sed ? the simple terminal or something else ?
[12:34] <platius> DamienCassou> http://www.maketecheasier.com/output-display-to-projector-in-ubuntu/2007/11/22
[12:35] <varunendra> universal, a stream line editor, like awk. Most common use is "sed -i 's/<something>/<something else/' <input file>"
[12:35] <universal> it went up like a rocket lol
[12:35] <varunendra> universal, what?
[12:35] <universal> plz use simple english
[12:36] <varunendra> oh. lol
[12:36] <DamienCassou> this blog post is really old and probably outdated (I think that xorg.conf if more or less deprecated now). Moreover, plugging an external monitor works fine. Just plugging an external projector does not work
[12:36] <universal> !awk
[12:37] <varunendra> universal, if you are planning to learn and use commandline for most of your tasks, learning at least 'some' usage of sed is going to help you a lot... it is almost a necessity for permanent cmdline users
[12:38] <spacedust> varunendra: or awk ?
[12:38] <universal> yes I want to use cmdline...its fast and powerful
[12:38] <varunendra> spacedust, awk is not suitable for simple edits.
[12:38] <spacedust> varunendra: why not ?
[12:38] <varunendra> it is overkill IMHO for thins like 's/1/2/'
[12:38] <universal> spacedust: varunendra are you both having a debate or helping me out ?
[12:39] <varunendra> XD
[12:39] <spacedust> no, im having a migrane :)
[12:39] <varunendra> universal, awk is too powerful, almost a full programming language, I'm trying to find the sed guide page which I learnt the most from..
[12:40] <universal> that will be god
[12:40] <universal> good*
[12:40] <geirha> varunendra: /topic ##sed
[12:41] <geirha> awk and sed are both programming languages, turing complete and all that
[12:42] <universal> ctrl+R in bash terminal shows something like (reverse-i-search)`': - what does it mean ?
[12:42] <MrQuist> searching the history
[12:42] <MrQuist> really usefull
[12:42] <MrQuist> try typing: echo testing123
[12:42] <MrQuist> then ctrl+r -> 123
[12:42] <MrQuist> it will show echo testing123
[12:42] <geirha> universal: It means if you type some text it will search backwards through history for a line containing that text
[12:42] <MrQuist> right.
[12:42] <universal> ooo
[12:42] <MrQuist> handy when searching for older commands :)
[12:42] <universal> if I do history -c then also ?
[12:42] <varunendra> universal, it is probably the most handy shortcut in Bash. It just looks through your bash history file for used commands, as you type a keyword
[12:43] <universal> if I do history -c then also ?
[12:43] <Pici> There is also #bash
[12:43] <geirha> universal: If you run history -c, there won't be any history to search through ...
[12:43] <universal> yea
[12:43] <varunendra> universal, just try the shortcut, then start typing any keyword you used in a previously used command. You'll know the difference ;)
[12:44] <universal> hmm
[12:44] <varunendra> universal, okay, the tutorial was the first hit on google : http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html
[12:44] <varunendra> universal, for your Network Manager keyfile issue, this is how you can use the sed command -
[12:45] <geirha> varunendra: Incidentally, that one is also listed in ##sed's topic
[12:46] <varunendra> universal, "sudo sed -i '/autoconnect/ d' /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/<your connection's keyfile>" == this will delete the line that contains the word "autoconnect".
[12:47] <varunendra> geirha, the NM keyfile editing? That's too much a coincidence then :D
[12:47] <universal> terminal is really easy with only a few clicks required lol
[12:48] <MrQuist> @ universal -> try Terminator instead of terminal
[12:48] <universal> and ctrl+R not working correctly
[12:48] <varunendra> universal, problem?
[12:48] <universal> i used nmcli command a lot of times
[12:48] <ferrieres> hi evbdy
[12:49] <MrQuist> hi lzy ferrieres
[12:49] <varunendra> oh, it'll show up the last used one only then, universal
[12:49] <universal> so when I did echo testing123 as suggested by MrQuist, its only showing nmcli commands and not testing123
[12:49] <universal> varunendra: ^
[12:49] <MrQuist> when ctrl+r -> 123 ?
[12:49] <geirha> varunendra: No, the grymoire tutorial. sed -i is generally discouraged in ##sed
[12:49] <ferrieres> I'm experiencing pbs (70% of CPU spend on Xorg) with a 4 years old laptop under 12.04
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: what GPU are you using?
[12:50] <ferrieres> GPU ?
[12:50] <universal> MrQuist: no...its nly taking 12 and not 123 and last command is echo testing123 but its showing nmcli one
[12:50] <MrQuist> weird
[12:50] <levianux> (firefox:2692): LIBDBUSMENU-GTK-CRITICAL **: dbusmenu_menuitem_property_set_shortcut: assertion `gtk_accelerator_valid(key, modifier)' failed
[12:51] <ferrieres> you mean CPU : it's HP
[12:51] <universal> not an expected word MrQuist lol
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: no the GPU
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: GPU == Graphical processing unit
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> universal  there's also #bash, maybe the people there can help better
[12:51] <MrQuist> haha sry universal im kinda busy
[12:51] <ferrieres> ok, ATI RADEon
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: also, hp dont make cpu
[12:51] <arrun> hi guys how to modify initrd.lz , please help
[12:51] <varunendra> geirha, yes, that depends on which file is target though. You can't afford to create a copy each time you change a file, if you do it frequently. And in some places (like /etc/modprobe.d/) not at all (cuz all files are read, regardless of extension).
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: which Radeon GPU?
[12:52] <ferrieres> ok, HP is Hall but Processoring...
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: sudo lshw -C display      will show you
[12:52] <ferrieres> ok, smthg like lspci greped ?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: see above
[12:52] <geirha> varunendra: And it's non-standard; only works with GNU sed. BSD sed has a similar option, but it's incompatible with the GNU one.
[12:52] <universal> MrQuist: no problem....I understand coz I also become busy when something unexpected happens lol
[12:52] <MrQuist> lol
[12:53] <universal> MonkeyDust: thnx
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: what is the product name?
[12:54] <varunendra> geirha, definitely. Someone serious about learning sed should know this, and probably they would, while following one of the guides :)
[12:54] <arrun> hi guys how to modify initrd.lz , please help
[12:54] <cactuswizard> does someone have any recommendations on good program for fb chat and twitter?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: when you type your password you will not get feedback
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> cactuswizard: pidgin
[12:55] <K1CKA55> blazemore: Thank again for the help i was succesfull with extending the partition without any issues with grub at all.
[12:55] <K1CKA55> Sadly it didn't fix the issue i was out to fix
[12:55] <universal> filter your assesments and passon the best suggestion varunendra geirha lol
[12:56] <geirha> cactuswizard: bitlbee; though I use neither fb or twitter, so I don't know how well it works.
[12:56] <arrun> hi guys how to modify initrd.lz , please help
[12:56] <universal> MrQuist: now its working......I got it why it was not working
[12:56] <MrQuist> what about it
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> arrun: modify in what way?
[12:56] <arrun> ActionParsnip: just to test it in iso
[12:56] <MrQuist> arrun -> vim initrd.lz -> press I -> type random stuff -> press esc -> press wq -> press enter
[12:57] <arrun> change the plymouth
[12:57] <MrQuist> done! modified.
[12:57] <ferrieres> seems that I only get "PCI(sys)" as an answer
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> arrun: there is a menu for setting the plymouth theme
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> arrun:
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> arrun: you dont change that file manually
[12:57] <varunendra> universal, probably create a copy of the keyfiles with desired changes, and move them back'n forth as required - would be safest method ;)
[12:57] <arrun> ok
[12:57] <ferrieres> "PCI(sysfs)" exactly...
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> arrun: if you simply state what you want to do like that, you will get better help
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: wait, your pci bus is slow
[12:58] <cactuswizard> ActionParsnip: just installed pidgin, seems working way better than empathy
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> cactuswizard: been using it since I started using Linux waaaay back when it was gaim :)
[12:58] <arrun> ActionParsnip: i want to extract the file and modify the content and then again rebuild it
[12:59] <universal> MrQuist: it showed the last entry correctly but what I did was deleted it so when again I searched, it didnt showed it...that means I deleted the last entry not from the search but from the terminal history
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> arrun: if you run: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth; sudo update-initramfs -u
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> arrun: you can choose the plymouth boot splash from the available options
[12:59] <MrQuist> oh
[12:59] <varunendra> universal, even better, create two copies of same keyfile, with different names (IDs), one with autoconnect, other without it. Then use "nmcli con up id <desired one>". Not the optimal solution of course..
[12:59] <MrQuist> weird
[12:59] <MrQuist> hahah
[12:59] <MoL0ToV> i have a problem with xscreensaver, don't authenticate even with correct password
[13:00] <universal> MrQuist: yea lol
[13:00] <arrun> ActionParsnip: man and how to change for the live disk]
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> arrun: you will need to remaster the ISO
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> arrun: considering its a boot splash, is it really worth the effort?
[13:01] <arrun> ActionParsnip: yes I am doing it
[13:01] <ferrieres> with lspci greped with "Radeon", i got AMD/ATI RV710/M92
[13:01] <universal> varunendra: that sounds good..but what do you mean by move back and forth ?
[13:01] <ferrieres> but still printing PCI (sysfs)
[13:01] <ferrieres> on lshw display
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: give it time, you'll get there
[13:02] <universal> when doing "sudo iwconfig", it takes me to consle and freezes there....is it a bug ?
[13:02] <varunendra> universal, move to the system-connections directory the one you want to use, move the other one outside. Now you don't need to tell me the stupidity rating of this suggestion.
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: or try (in a nother terminal):   lspci | grep -i vga
[13:03] <ferrieres> is there another way to know the GPU ?
[13:03] <universal> varunendra: haha...no no not at all
[13:03] <ferrieres> ok
[13:03] <ferrieres> ok : i got it both ways
[13:04] <universal> varunendra: if anything....thnx, it was the best advice of the day :D
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: ok, which GPU
[13:05] <universal> varunendra: now how to use that "nmcli con permissions" command ?
[13:05] <xtriz> is the sourcelist of ubuntu 12.04 server and 12.04 Desktop different ?
[13:05] <varunendra> universal, I'm overwhelmed with your generous compliment :)
[13:05] <ferrieres> RV710/M92 ?
[13:05] <K1CKA55> Anyone got an idea what could cause a ubuntu to boot slowly at times
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> xtriz: they are the same
[13:05] <xtriz> because what i found was it was all precise and same.
[13:05] <ferrieres> Mobility Radeon
[13:05] <mn2010> Question: LD linking error, how do i find what lib it cant find?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: its a 4000 series
[13:05] <xtriz> ActionParsnip, ok :)
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: known issue
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: you need that
[13:06] <ferrieres> HD 4330, 4350/4550...
[13:06] <sinkensabe> is it in an easy way to disable the notification animation for apps in the launcher sidebar ? e.g. when something happens in a program at another workspace the icon pops out from the side
[13:06] <ferrieres> i got errors on glxinfo...
[13:06] <mn2010> 4k has to use fglrx-legacy not fglrx/fglrx-updates. its a legacy product now
[13:07] <DamienCassou> plugging an external monitor on my laptop works fine. However, if I replace the external monitor by an external projector, it is not detected by xrandr and Displays
[13:07] <DamienCassou> what can be wrong?
[13:07] <arrun> ActionParsnip: man how to change for the live disk
[13:07] <xtriz> what was the name for the version 12.10 ? for 12.04 it is precise and for 13.04 it's raring but what about 12.10 ?
[13:08] <arrun> ActionParsnip: I need to build the initrd.lz really fast
[13:08] <universal> varunendra: nmcli con permissions ?
[13:08] <Pici> !12.10 | xtriz
[13:08] <xtriz> Pici, ok :)
[13:08] <xtriz> arrun, what are you doing ?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> arrun: you will need to remaster the entire ISO and then rebuild. If you use liveUSB with persistance you can change it like an installed OS
[13:09] <varunendra> universal, again, doesn't look like that is covered by nmcli (or I couldn't find if it is). What kind of permissions do you want to assign/change?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> arrun: i fail to see how a boot splash is so urgent, its so inconsequential
[13:09] <ferrieres> so lsmod doesnt show any fglx or so... how can i get this ?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: _READ_ the link I gave
[13:10] <universal> varunendra: I dont want to change anything...I was wondering coz those entries are not listed in dconf and not shown in gsettings also
[13:10] <ferrieres> ok, i have lynx but firefox is out of my possibilities...
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: want me to pastebin the text for you?
[13:10] <universal> its like ghost entries shown legit in nmcli but not in dconf or gsettings
[13:11] <universal> varunendra: ^
[13:11] <ferrieres> no thx ActionParsnip, i'll try with lynx
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: http://pastie.org/8313733
[13:11] <ferrieres> ok, thx anyway !
[13:12] <varunendra> universal, usually it is suggested to enable the connection for everyone, which is the default option while creating a connection. But if I disable that option, the connection is available to me only (or who creates the connection). Accordingly, just a line is added in the keyfile which I think can be added or edited manually.
[13:13] <universal> hmm
[13:13] <ferrieres> ok, i read...
[13:14] <universal> varunendra: next - connecting via command "nmcli dev wifi connect SSID [password <pass>]" duplicates the connection meaning duplicating of "connection " to "connection 1" "connection 2" and so on the times its done by "dev wifi connect....." command ! why ?
[13:16] <varunendra> universal, I don't have any authentic explanation to that. I can only guess, which is - since you are not using an existing profile (using 'con' object), maybe NM thinks you 'Want' to create a new one.
[13:16] <varunendra> universal, it somehow sometimes happens in the GUI as well.
[13:21] <universal> varunendra: well sounds fair enough....but if i use the same command without "password <pass>" and use it to connect an existing connection.....then it connects the connection but again creates a duplicate entry , assuming its used to create new connections, this time it takes the entry itself and pass is already saved so I suppose its not creating a new entry but using the existing one
[13:23] <universal> otherwise if there are no connections in NM and you use the same command without pass then it will ask for the password but again creating a duplicate entry
[13:25] <varunendra> universal, you lost me in the previous comment :P Which command? "nmcli dev ...." or "nmcli con..." ?
[13:25] <universal> varunendra: ^^
[13:25] <universal> nmcli dev wifi connect......
[13:30] <a_guy> I recently installed pantheon shell on ubuntu 13.04... everything works except the wallpaper... same happened to cinnamon and gnome shell, but I got those fixed except for this...
[13:30] <geirha> universal: The manual clearly states that it will create a new connection
[13:31] <varunendra> universal, I am not so sure about the "dev" object. I think it is like asking for a new connection. The "con" object seems to be intended to use existing connections. Then again, most of what I'm posting here is what I just learned or guessed.. lol !
[13:32] <a_guy> I recently installed pantheon shell on ubuntu 13.04... everything works except the wallpaper... same happened to cinnamon and gnome shell, but I got those fixed except for this...
[13:32] <varunendra> universal, what geirha said ^^
[13:33] <rbtnc> anyone have any suggestions and or docs/sites as far as network tweak, I am running a ftpd and not getting speeds i should be getting.
[13:33] <universal> varunendra: geirha yea had a second look at its manpage.....looks like I misread that line the 1st time..."it always creates a new connection"
[13:34] <akshay2000> rbtnc: Start with finding out the bottleneck.
[13:34] <a_guy> I recently installed pantheon shell on ubuntu 13.04... everything works except the wallpaper... same happened to cinnamon and gnome shell, but I got those fixed except for this...
[13:34] <universal> I think I misjudged it "its a counterpart of clicking a connection in gui"
[13:35] <ciapsa> hi
[13:35] <Delapena> ciapsa: what's your question?
[13:37] <ciapsa> I can not connect the torus
[13:37] <ciapsa> which settings
[13:38] <vlt> Hello. I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 with lubuntu-desktop. I have two screens connected: one on HDMI-0 and one on VGA-0. I found out how to change the size of the screens but how can I setup different content?
[13:38] <pratik> Hi. I am having some issues with dpkg. I am not able to install any new packages or upgrade the packages. The error I am getting is Bus Error (core dumped). Please help me in this regard.
[13:39] <universal> why "sudo iwcnfig" is taking me to console and freeing system there until I have to hit the power buttong to manually reboot it
[13:39] <universal> sudo iwconfig
[13:39] <sean_madden> cool
[13:39] <universal> its not cool
[13:39] <GSport> HDMI sound does not work
[13:39] <bkfitz> Anyone here have experience setting up an sftp batch script from windows to linux using passwordless auth (keys)?
[13:40] <GSport> my monitor isnt a goldstar
[13:40] <sean_madden> same here
[13:40] <MoL0ToV> i have a problem with xscreensaver, don't authenticate even with correct password
[13:40] <sean_madden> bye
[13:40] <universal> bye bye
[13:40] <rbtnc> akshay2000: What do you mean?
[13:40] <user_asdf_> anybody here knows how to see the current tcp window size of an network interface? (tried it before, but it didnt get solved)
[13:41] <GSport> i tried the latest xubuntu with new kernel and still HDMI sound does not work
[13:41] <pratik> Hi. I am having some issues with dpkg. I am not able to install any new packages or upgrade the packages. The error I am getting is Bus Error (core dumped). Please help me in this regard.
[13:41] <levianux> (firefox:2838): LIBDBUSMENU-GTK-CRITICAL **: dbusmenu_menuitem_property_set_shortcut: assertion `gtk_accelerator_valid(key, modifier)' failed
[13:41] <GSport> and the computer fans are making to much noise
[13:41] <cfhowlett> pratik, bring this question to #xubuntu for best results.
[13:41] <cfhowlett> GSport, that's a hardware issue ...
[13:41] <GSport> linux use at your own risc
[13:42] <pratik> cfhowlett: I am using Ubuntu 13.04.  Can you help me at #ubuntu?
[13:43] <cfhowlett> GSport, attitude like that?  good luck.
[13:43] <a_guy> I recently installed pantheon shell on ubuntu 13.04... everything works except the wallpaper... same happened to cinnamon and gnome shell, but I got those fixed except for this...
[13:43] <cfhowlett> pratik, sorry, no.  that's why I suggested (wrongly) that you come here.
[13:43] <akshay2000> pratik: just type your question!
[13:43] <GSport> good luck with your distro
[13:43] <cfhowlett> !patience|a_guy,
[13:43] <ferrieres> ok, thx ActionParnship ! I'm on an slow slow update... getting some headers
[13:43] <pratik> akshay2000: Hi. I am having some issues with dpkg. I am not able to install any new packages or upgrade the packages. The error I am getting is Bus Error (core dumped). Please help me in this regard.
[13:43] <GSport> full of smart assholes
[13:43] <a_guy> ok ubottu
[13:43] <cfhowlett> !language|GSport,
[13:44] <GSport> !language cfhowlett
[13:44] <GSport> his is a distro to break your computer
[13:45] <GSport> use it if you want to lose warranty
[13:45] <jony_easyrider> in Ubuntu where is located the LibreOffice's Calc executable?
[13:45] <somsip> jony_easyrider: locate localc
[13:45] <cfhowlett> jony_easyrider, if installed, it'll be under Office
[13:45] <GSport> you will be lucky if your computer doesnt breakdown in the 1st couple of days
[13:46] <DGJones> GSport, Do you have a support issue, this isn't a channel for ranting
[13:46] <JoBArTe_Skuld> hi
[13:46] <cfhowlett> JoBArTe_Skuld, greetings
[13:46] <JoBArTe_Skuld> thanks :)
[13:46] <GSport> im just suppoerting the people that use this thing
[13:46] <JoBArTe_Skuld> is possible to kill child proccess and this dont turn to zombie process?
[13:47] <GSport> before they do something that ruins their PC
[13:47] <GSport> like installing this stuff for real
[13:47] <jony_easyrider> somsip, ty
[13:47] <jony_easyrider> cfhowlett, ty
[13:47] <cfhowlett> jony_easyrider, have fun, be safe
[13:51] <glambert> Hi, I must have botched the ubuntu server install on my new server because the sources.list file was empty apart from the entry for the disc
[13:51] <glambert> I've added a few entries in there but still can't find some simple things like phpmyadmin
[13:51] <glambert> is there a default list somewhere for 13.04 server?
[13:52] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|glambert,
[13:53] <universal> geirha: why are the "nmcli nm permissions" entries not shown in dconf gui or gsettings ?
[13:53] <Delapena> cfhowlett: that's extremely unhelpful
[13:53] <Delapena> glambert: boot from live CD
[13:53] <glambert> Delapena, it was a USB install
[13:53] <glambert> and will eventually be in a datacentre so can't really have the USB in all of the time
[13:54] <kevalin> hello guys
[13:54] <Delapena> glambert: use the USB to see what the sources.list should look like...
[13:54] <OerHeks> glambert, you could try http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ and use the first 6 entrys
[13:54] <Delapena> wasn't that your question?
[13:54] <cfhowlett> kevalin, greetings
[13:55] <glambert> OerHeks, tried that but didn't select the Restricted or Universe ones, so that might be it
[13:55] <glambert> Delapena, don't think you can live boot from a USB server install?
[13:57] <Neozonz> how can i make a host openvpn accessible to all my proxmox containers?>
[13:58] <glambert> OerHeks, that sorted it, thanks
[13:58] <tekk> i have a strange thing going on
[13:58] <OerHeks> glambert, have fun
[13:58] <tekk> wlan0 will not come up until an ethernet cable is plugged in
[13:58] <tekk> any ideas?
[14:01] <Guest9574> hey
[14:01] <cfhowlett> Guest9574, ho
[14:03] <iceroot> is there a program which is able to receive and show SMS when i have entered a SIM-card into my notebook? the umts connection is working fine, i just need to be able to receive sms also on that card
[14:04] <martinrame> Hi, I'm on text mode console right now. I lost the keyboard input on graphical mode, how can I recover it? (Ubuntu 12.04 XFCE).
[14:04] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[14:04] <ferrieres> Thx for all help... i have to restart the computer...
[14:04] <martinrame> I mean, the keyboard suddenly stopped working on graphical mode, but ctrl+alt+f1 still works.
[14:06] <martinrame> just killed an RDesktop session and it started working again.
[14:13] <icesword> hehehe
[14:16] <kevalin> hehehehehehe
[14:28] <Hundurinn> hi, i was wondering if someone could give me some pointers with installing ubuntu to dualboot with windows 7?
[14:28] <iceroot> !dualboot | Hundurinn
[14:28] <cfhowlett> Hundurinn, install windows first.  then ubuntu
[14:29] <iceroot> Hundurinn: the first link
[14:30] <Delapena> you can install ubuntu first then windows... and then fix grub from a live cd
[14:30] <Hundurinn> well, i got windows 7 up and running, i create the USB bootable with ubuntu 12.04 LTS, restart my computer, boot from the usb key, select install and i get the some ubuntu loading screen that just hangs forever
[14:31] <Delapena>  Hundurinn sounds like you have a bad install
[14:31] <cfhowlett> Hundurinn, md5sum check your ISO and do a disk integrity check of the USB
[14:32] <akshay2000> Hundurinn: you may hit escape and see where exactly it is stuck.
[14:33] <ferrieres> hi again ! i'm still having trouble with a 12.04 on a ATI RADEON, even with the fglrx module... any help ?
[14:33] <universal> Hundurinn: which wifi card is installed in your system ?
[14:34] <Hundurinn> no wifi, it is a desktop computer
[14:34] <ferrieres> hi !
[14:35] <GSport> hi peeps
[14:35] <cfhowlett> ferrieres, greetings
[14:35] <universal> Hundurinn: are there any additional cards attachments installed in your desktop?
[14:35] <ferrieres> hi cfhowlett
[14:35] <ferrieres> can you help me ?
[14:35] <Hundurinn> i got a soundcard and a graphics card
[14:35] <cfhowlett> !details|ferrieres,
[14:35] <Hundurinn> nothing else
[14:37] <ferrieres> I got a 12.04 version on a HP ProBook 4710 with a RADEON ATI 4xxx version and something like 70% of CPU spend on Xorg...
[14:37] <universal> well md5sum and sha256sum iso and usb and if its ok them try removing sound card and see if it works
[14:38] <universal> some drivers and additional attachments conflict while loading on boot
[14:39] <ferrieres> so, for example, moving a window under gnome (gdm, nnot lightdm) takes several seconds
[14:40] <ferrieres> anybody for help ?
[14:41] <auronandace> ferrieres: gdm and lightdm are login managers, nothing to do with your window manager
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: did you install the driver from the PPA?
[14:41] <Hundurinn> the md5sum came back wrong, Not the same, i'll will try downloading it again to make sure the iso is good
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: have you tried the Unity2D session?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: there is nothing to move in gdm or lightdm, they are the login managers
[14:41] <iceroot> is there a program which is able to receive and show SMS when i have entered a SIM-card into my notebook? the umts connection is working fine, i just need to be able to receive sms also on that card
[14:42] <ferrieres> yes, ActionPArnship... update, upgrade, install fglrx and reboot... twice... and same pb
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: try Unity2D
[14:43] <ferrieres> Unity 2D ? why, is this runnning smthg different from gnome ?
[14:43] <ferrieres> except lightdm in place of gdm...
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: no, its still gnome, just a different window manager and shell
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: lightdm or gdm doesnt make any difference at all
[14:44] <ferrieres> ok...
[14:44] <auronandace> ferrieres: gnome-shell uses mutter, unity uses compiz, unity2d uses metacity (what was used in gnome2)
[14:44] <ferrieres> thx...
[14:45] <ferrieres> how to proceed without unloging ?
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: you will need to log off, select the 2D session in the login screen then log in
[14:45] <ferrieres> ok
[14:47] <ferrieres> it's running very slow... ok, i log in
[14:48] <universal> Hundurinn: use torrnt this time....it checks the file by itslef and if there will be any problem....it will correct it automatically
[14:49] <Hundurinn> ok, will do
[14:49] <fanda5> frucoooo
[14:52] <dheeraj> In gparted it is showing unknown type
[14:52] <dheeraj> for my external harddisk
[14:53] <hid> hi all
[14:54] <hid> when you install a software, does it go to /?
[14:54] <GSport> it gores to lots of places
[14:55] <ferrieres> hi again !
[14:55] <GSport> the executable goes to /usr/bin
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> hid: all over the place. It doesnt go to a single folder like you think it does in windows
[14:55] <hid> but i mean not in ~
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> hid: shared libs can be used by many apps so go into a shared folder, they are also only loaded to ram once
[14:55] <hid> because i have only 2 gb left in ~
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> hid: yes, applicatoins do not install in $HOME
[14:56] <dheeraj> how could i mount it
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> hid: then clean aplication caches
[14:56] <ferrieres> ActionParsnip: when i tried to log out, the computer stoped even ircII from printing on tty1... so i rebooted
[14:56] <hid> ActionParnsnip: how to clean em?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: ok, how is 2D?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> hid: use the app themselves, or use apps like bleachbit (carefully)
[14:57] <hid> ActionParnsnip: ok thx
[14:57] <ferrieres> ...empty... nothing to click on ;)
[14:57] <ferrieres> i'll try top in tty2
[14:58] <GSport> try htop
[14:58] <GSport> its pretier
[14:58] <ferrieres> ... but it takes like 10 seconds to log in on a tty !!! never seen that...
[14:59] <ferrieres> ok unity2D is "appearing" (left bar, menu, etc.)
[14:59] <GSport> just install a propper distro
[15:00] <GSport> pclinuxOS is one of the best
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> GSport: ubuntu is a propper distro
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> GSport: in your opinion, maybe
[15:00] <GSport> you harware is supported out of the box runing live
[15:00] <bazhang> GSport, thats offtopic here, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:00] <Delapena> GSport: why arey ou in #ubuntu trying to sell people some other distro
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> GSport: all my hardware has worked out of the box since gutsy?
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> GSport: and before that in Mandrake....
[15:01] <ferrieres> apt-check, Xorg and polkitd are taking more than 70%CPU on top, alternatively...
[15:01] <GSport> you are lucky
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> GSport: no, smart
[15:01] <GSport> smart are people that make pclinuxOS
[15:01] <GSport> and users that run it
[15:02] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support please
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> GSport: this is support, please give ubuntu support or ask an ubuntu support question
[15:03] <GSport> im afraid my question wont be smart enough
[15:03] <ferrieres> and i may suggest a customer ;-)
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> GSport: we support al skill levels here
[15:04] <GSport> all*
[15:04] <ferrieres> just to be efficient : is there option in ircII printing to highlight my username, for instance ?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> GSport: yes, the language conveyed my message, so it wasn't corrected
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> GSport: you knew what I meant, so why make it clear?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> GSport: it was already obvious
[15:05] <GSport> ok you can stop crying now
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> GSport: cos I made you look like an ass?
[15:06] <GSport> no you made your self look like the smart ass that you really are
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> GSport: how so?
[15:06] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, thats enough please
[15:06] <bazhang> GSport, you too
[15:06] <Delapena> GSport: this is very off topic and unnecessary. Go away
[15:07] <ferrieres> ActionPArsnip, may i just wonder some help ? i don't mean to disturb you from a good discussion...
[15:07] <GSport> im sorry that you fail to understand
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> GSport: ive moved on, i suggest you do th same
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: is the OS up to date?
[15:07] <ferrieres> the OS is 12.04, lts
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: if you install the xfce4 package, then log in to the XFCE session, is it better
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: have you ran system updates to get the packages installed up to date?
[15:08] <ferrieres> for xfce is lighter ?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: waht is the output of:  uname -a
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: yes
[15:09] <ferrieres> <IP_ADDRESS>-generic-pae on a 64 bit
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: pae is not 64bit, its 32bit
[15:10] <ferrieres> ok.. it's written i686 twice and i386
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: yes, 32bit kernel, 32bit OS
[15:10] <ferrieres> but 64 bit CPU... ?
[15:10] <ferrieres> ok i try xfce
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: your 64bit-ness in your cpu isnt being used
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: the kernel doesnt know how
[15:11] <ferrieres> ok, let's him ignore it for the moment ;-)
[15:12] <abstarct_man> apple conference :-)
[15:13] <ferrieres> i try to do all things in shell because every window is taking too much of the CPU... so the package is xfce4 ?
[15:13] <ferrieres> ok, it downloads stuff
[15:14] <Gnea> !ppa
[15:15] <ferrieres> how to get the list of the PPA's i've installed ?
[15:15] <ferrieres> is it in /etc/apt/source.list or smthg ?
[15:16] <Gnea> ferrieres: look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[15:16] <ferrieres> ok
[15:16] <ferrieres> so it's in the same file than the classical repositories
[15:17] <Gnea> well they just put each repository in its own file in that directory and source the directory
[15:17] <Gnea> that way you don't have one huge file cluttered with stuff that you probably wouldn't have any idea of what it was unless you visted each one with a browser
[15:17] <hid> i have this recalcitrant file
[15:18] <DamienCassou> when I plug a beamer on my computer it is not recognized. External monitors are however. What can I do please?
[15:18] <hid> even with a chmod 777 is does not want to be executable
[15:18] <Gnea> DamienCassou: what is a 'beamer'? a car?
[15:18] <ferrieres> ok, xfce4 unpacks severely... this will appear in the login screen ? ok, i try
[15:18] <Gnea> hid: what is the result of this command:  file recalcitrant
[15:19] <ferrieres> beamer is a latex presentation ?
[15:19] <hid> Gnea: UrTUpdater.x86_64: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not stripped
[15:20] <ferrieres> DamienCassou : what's wrong with the beamer ?
[15:20] <Gnea> hid: okay, do you have a 64-bit cpu?
[15:20] <DJones> Gnea, Beamer is overhead projecter from memory (DamienCassou was asking earlier on with no success)
[15:20] <hid> Gnea: of course :)
[15:20] <DamienCassou> Gnea: beamer = external projector
[15:20] <SunTsu> Gnea: he's talking about a projector
[15:20] <ferrieres> ok, so i shut my... fingers :)
[15:21] <Gnea> DamienCassou: oh, I've never heard a projector referred to as a 'beamer'.  what video card do you use?
[15:21] <DamienCassou> at least, that how I call them (I'm french :-))
[15:21] <Gnea> DamienCassou: let's just not go there and stick to getting the 'projector' to work ;-)
[15:22] <DamienCassou> Gnea: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core
[15:23] <ferrieres> again I log out and log in with xfce4 (installed)
[15:24] <DamienCassou> Gnea: hmmm. That's strange. I tried with 2 projectors and it didn't work. Now, I'm at my office and have some time but can't reproduce the problem with the team's projector :-(
[15:25] <Gnea> DamienCassou: oh, it's built-in vga from the cpu?
[15:25] <SunTsu> DamienCassou: you're connecting that projector to the same graphics port as you do external displays?
[15:25] <DamienCassou> I think so but am not sure. I'm on a laptop
[15:26] <ferrieres> ActionParsnip : still here ?
[15:26] <DamienCassou> SunTsu: yes. And it's working fine with my external monitor.
[15:27] <DamienCassou> for the projector, I use a vga/mini-displayport adaptor (I'm on a macbook pro)
[15:27] <ferrieres> how to restart the X server from shell ?
[15:28] <mortenmadsen> Hi, total Linux noob - need help with mounting HFS Plus Usb disk Read Write !? Anybody ???
[15:29] <Gnea> DamienCassou: have you turned the laptop off, then turned it back on with the projector plugged in already?
[15:30] <SunTsu> DamienCassou: Never tried that, all my laptops still have vga ports and worked out of the box
[15:30] <DamienCassou> Gnea: I tried a reboot
[15:31] <Gnea> DamienCassou: try a full-powered shutdown. the laptop may need to know about the device through bios.
[15:31] <ferrieres> ok, i tried service gdm stop then start
[15:32] <DamienCassou> ok, thank you
[15:32] <DamienCassou> anything else I could test next time I have a beamer that does not work?
[15:33] <DamienCassou> Gnea: just to note: my team's beamer works just fine on my computer. I found 2 beamers that didn't work immediately
[15:33] <mortenmadsen> Can anybody help me mount a USB disk RW and not only RO
[15:33] <SunTsu> DamienCassou: check your BIOS if your laptop has two GPUs, modern laptops often do. One that's integrated into the chipset and one that's sort of externel. If you do try both
[15:34] <DamienCassou> I don't think I have anything related to a bios tool. I never saw any on macbooks
[15:35] <bazhang> mortenmadsen, got hfsplus and hfsutils installed yet?
[15:35] <MarcGuay> Is there a way to set the keyboard to allow for Windows-style alt-key character codes?  (I've found alternatives like Compose Key and all of that, I'm looking for a way to keep the exact same functionality)
[15:36] <TsarObomba> Hey guys, I used to compile kernels by hand all the time. And right now I want to do just that, but the "ubuntu or debiAn way". so i end up with packages
[15:36] <TsarObomba> Dont ask "why on earth would you do that", i can fix breakages, im a big boy
[15:37] <Gnea> DamienCassou: no, I mean that the bios needs to 'see' the beamer as it is turning on to 'know' that it exists
[15:37] <bazhang> !checkinstall | TsarObomba
[15:37] <TsarObomba> Anyways, -pf has released their 3.11 patchset, but they dont release ubuntu or debian binaries, and the guy who does has not updated
[15:37] <bazhang> !compile > TsarObomba
[15:37] <TsarObomba> im familiar with checkinstall
[15:37] <TsarObomba> and i know how to compile
[15:37] <TsarObomba> I compile anjdrpoid roms, 20x times a day
[15:38] <bazhang> TsarObomba, whats the question then
[15:38] <TsarObomba> But I? know ubuntu/debian has a special method for kernels
[15:38] <hfase> compiling Linus source works for me after make menuconfig and make deb
[15:38] <TsarObomba> What is that method
[15:38] <TsarObomba> Nevermind
[15:38] <TsarObomba> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[15:38] <hfase> make deb-pkg i mean
[15:38] <TsarObomba> As usual, gettting help here is pulling teeth
[15:39] <TsarObomba> hfase: good to know
[15:39] <TsarObomba> thanksz
[15:39] <TsarObomba> the first person who didnt treat my question as a noob :P
[15:39] <TsarObomba> seriously, thanks
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> TsarObomba  there's also #ubuntu-kernel
[15:39] <hfase> stanfard c compiler stuff, if you read the readme for linux on GitHub
[15:39] <TsarObomba> Time to read that wiki page i posted
[15:39] <TsarObomba> MonkeyDust: good to know
[15:39] <TsarObomba> hfase: i wonder, will it build with clang yet?
[15:40] <TsarObomba> clang is compatible with mosty gcc stuff
[15:40] <hfase> when i compile it though there are a few things missing, like tty and graphics
[15:40] <TsarObomba> And Ive been experimenting with using it over gcc4.7 on android roms
[15:40] <TsarObomba> eww
[15:40] <TsarObomba> Well i have open graphics
[15:40] <TsarObomba> intel
[15:40] <ferrieres> I'm back..
[15:40] <TsarObomba> The other box is nvidia, but that can stick on liquorix
[15:40] <DamienCassou> Gnea: I was answering SunTsu. But ok, thank you for your tip, I will try. Need to leave now
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> TsarObomba  and for develeopers, there's #ubuntu-app-devel, i guess you're not in the right channel
[15:40] <DamienCassou> Gnea SunTsu thank you both
[15:40] <ferrieres> ActionParsnip, are you still there ?
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: back, wassup
[15:41] <ferrieres> Please someone ... help !
[15:41] <TsarObomba> hmm, that wiki page is for bui8lding the ubuntu patched kernel
[15:41] <TsarObomba> which i dont want, not new enough
[15:41] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: ask the question again
[15:41] <echo747> are there any settings I can change in ubuntu to help speed up an older pc?
[15:41] <TsarObomba> dont just ask for help
[15:42] <TsarObomba> echo747: there are some, disabling startup programs and such. But really, i would recommend lubuntu
[15:42] <ferrieres> ok... i'm on a HP Probook with a ATI Radeon gpu
[15:42] <TsarObomba> Its a nice GUI, and very light
[15:42] <TsarObomba> Great for old PC's even better than xubuntu
[15:42] <TsarObomba> Which isnt any faster than gnome2 these days
[15:42] <echo747> TsarObomba thanks, never heard of that distro
[15:42] <ferrieres> and i encounter ssome big pb till i'm back from hollidays...
[15:43] <TsarObomba> echo747: `its a official derivative of ubuntu
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: could try the 3.5 kernel
[15:43] <TsarObomba> echo747: http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/derivatives
[15:43] <ferrieres> ActionParsnip : how ?
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> TsarObomba: Lubuntu is not LTS though (sadly)
[15:43] <TsarObomba> ferret_: you really havent saids the problem
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: enable the backport repo. I forget the package name
[15:43] <ferrieres> ActionParsnip : i'm stuck in a logout try : no more xserver...
[15:44] <TsarObomba> ActionParsnip: thats not a big deal for an older system
[15:44] <TsarObomba> ferries*
[15:44] <TsarObomba> sorry ferret_
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> TsarObomba: depends when it will be disposd of
[15:44] <TsarObomba> new LTS is coming shortly
[15:44] <TsarObomba> Agaoin, not a big deal, enable backports
[15:44] <TsarObomba> Its lubuntu
[15:44] <ferrieres> ok, tsarobomba, forget about my name... call me fer
[15:44] <TsarObomba> not a top of line computer
[15:44] <Adam-85> i try to format partation with file type ntfs and get this msg : Failed to execute child process "mkfs.nilfs2
[15:45] <ferrieres> the laptop is 4 years old
[15:45] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: so you are stuck in the terminal?
[15:45] <ferrieres> yes
[15:45] <ferrieres> tty1&2
[15:45] <TsarObomba> Were you use the amd/atoi propietary driver, or the raqdeon driver?
[15:45] <ferrieres> 1 for ircII, 2 for ... apt-ing or lynxing stuff
[15:46] <Arief> hello
[15:46] <TsarObomba> what happens if you clt+alt+f7
[15:46] <TsarObomba> you need to get your xorg log, so we can see whats happening
[15:46] <ferrieres> Tsar : ActionP. told me to change for fglrx as AMD doesnt support the driver anymore
[15:46] <TsarObomba> fglrx is amd
[15:47] <TsarObomba> thats amds propietary driver
[15:47] <TsarObomba> so you mean you switched to radeon (the open source driver)
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> TsarObomba: lubuntu 14.04 will also not be LTS (as far as I am aware)
[15:47] <TsarObomba> ActionParsnip: i dont care, honestly
[15:47] <TsarObomba> its up to him
[15:47] <ferrieres> tasr: the server X is out, stuck in "X11 initialization failed"
[15:47] <TsarObomba> He could take ubuntu base
[15:47] <TsarObomba> and install lubuntu
[15:47] <TsarObomba> I dont care what he does, it was a mere sugesstion
[15:48] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: ok, so lets get a log
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> TsarObomba: it will then be lubuntu, and not lts
[15:48] <ferrieres> tsar : i tried to mean this but the name of the package is smthg like fglr...
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> TsarObomba: you can install lxde and openbox and keep support though :)
[15:48] <TsarObomba> ActionParsnip: um, if you took 13.04 ubuntu and installed lubuntu-desktop, it would give you lxde/lubuntu but on 13.04
[15:48] <TsarObomba> who cares
[15:48] <TsarObomba> honestly
[15:48] <TsarObomba> not i
[15:49] <bazhang> !enter | TsarObomba
[15:49]  * TsarObomba ends pointless conversation going nowhere
[15:49] <TsarObomba> bazhang: ya ya
[15:49] <TsarObomba> i dont see you helping
[15:49] <honestly> TsarObomba: sup buddy
[15:49] <TsarObomba> seriously?
[15:49] <TsarObomba> Wow
[15:49] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: anyhways
[15:49] <bazhang> TsarObomba, lose the attitude
[15:50] <Pici> (end the excessive enters)
[15:50] <TsarObomba> bazhang: sutre thing
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> :)
[15:50] <ferrieres> ok, can i ask for help ? ;)
[15:50] <TsarObomba> This is why i never come here..... (attitude implied, just truth)
[15:50] <Adam-85> Failed to execute child process "mkfs.nilfs2 how to fix plz
[15:50] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: im trying to help
[15:50] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: install pastebinit
[15:50] <TsarObomba> so you can pastebin the log from terminal
[15:50] <Pici> Adam-85: What are you running before you get that?
[15:51] <TsarObomba> lemme know when you get that installed
[15:51] <ferrieres> i have no access to a firefox windows
[15:51] <Adam-85> format my partation
[15:51] <Pici> Adam-85: What exactly are you typing?
[15:51] <Adam-85> by disk utility
[15:51] <ferrieres> pastebinit is for pasting some text on web ?
[15:51] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: you dont need firefox
[15:51] <TsarObomba> or X
[15:51] <ferrieres> ok
[15:51] <TsarObomba> pastebinit works from the terminal
[15:52] <TsarObomba> you do like pastebinit somefile.txt
[15:52] <TsarObomba> and it spits out a url
[15:52] <mortenmadsen> NEED HELP mounting a IUSB HFSplus disk read write - anybody ??
[15:52] <TsarObomba> like mine
[15:52] <Pici> Adam-85: Are you sure that you actually picked NTFS?  nils is another filesystem type.
[15:53] <TsarObomba> $ pastebinit Xorg.0.log                                                                                http://paste.ubuntu.com/6088528/
[15:53] <bazhang> mortenmadsen, did you install hfsplus and hfsutils yet
[15:53] <juboba> hey, I need help installing Ubuntu on a HP
[15:53] <ferrieres> ok,
[15:53] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: once pastebin is installed. do this: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:53] <TsarObomba> and put the url in chat
[15:53] <TsarObomba> so we can see it
[15:53] <ferrieres> ok, i read this log once...
[15:54] <TsarObomba> Im sure one of us, besides me will take a look
[15:54] <ferrieres> but you know more than me
[15:54] <TsarObomba> The things that say error are the issues :P
[15:54] <juboba> hey, I need help installing Ubuntu on a HP 1105 with UEFI
[15:54] <TsarObomba> jubba_: elaborate pleASE
[15:54] <juboba> TsarObomba, how?
[15:54] <TsarObomba> help can mean many things. without knowing your ssue we can not help
[15:54] <TsarObomba> What do you need "help" with
[15:55] <juboba> I can't boot with my USB drive
[15:55] <OerHeks> !uefi | juboba
[15:55] <ferrieres> ok : 6088537 is the number ;-)
[15:56] <juboba> thanks OerHeks
[15:56] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: the number of the url?
[15:57] <Adam-85> Pici: yeah i need it as ntfs
[15:57] <TsarObomba> ie http://paste.ubuntu.com/6088537
[15:57] <Pici> Adam-85: Make sure that you actually picked NTFS and not NILFS
[15:57] <ferrieres> yes
[15:57] <TsarObomba> BTW people, i am ignoring ubottu (for feature reference) unasked for P<M's are completely against ircetiquette
[15:58] <ferrieres> sorry i've tried to understand this log...
[15:58] <TsarObomba> iuts ok
[15:58] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: there are no errors in there
[15:58] <ferrieres> iuts ?
[15:58] <TsarObomba> errors would EE
[15:58] <TsarObomba> like (EE) where you are seeing (II)
[15:58] <TsarObomba> But you are using fglrx, NOT radeon the open source drive3r
[15:59] <BluesKaj> !ubottu | TsarObomba
[15:59] <TsarObomba> whgat s your card?
[15:59] <ferrieres> ok, let's say.. but alt+ctrl+F7 is a black screen with white words on it...
[15:59] <TsarObomba> BluesKaj: ukmmm, im well aware what the bot is
[16:00] <ferrieres> my card is (lspci|grep "VGA") :
[16:00] <TsarObomba> All I was referring to is the annoying pm'[s, if it said "Hey YOU, im gonna send a pm ok?" and you said Ubottu: Ok, that would be great, otherwise its unwanted spam
[16:00] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: um that is not your card
[16:00] <TsarObomba> thats the command to find the card
[16:00] <ferrieres> RV710/M92
[16:00] <TsarObomba> ok
[16:00] <TsarObomba> let me google that
[16:00] <ferrieres> from AMD/ATI
[16:01] <TsarObomba> yes i know
[16:01] <BluesKaj> TsarObomba, I'm sure you are and it's a friendly reminder that the bot /factoids have their place despite your opinions about irc etiquette.
[16:01] <TsarObomba> have you tried just rebooting?
[16:01] <ferrieres> Mobility Radeon HD 4xxx
[16:01] <TsarObomba> BluesKaj: thats great
[16:01] <ferrieres> yes, twice...
[16:01] <TsarObomba> Its still agaiunst classic irc netiquette
[16:01] <ferrieres> but not till i install xfce4
[16:01] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: caquse xorg is working
[16:02] <TsarObomba> so what, you have ubuntu (with unity) and install xfce?
[16:02] <TsarObomba> how did you install xfce?
[16:02] <ferrieres> apt-get install
[16:02] <TsarObomba> xubuntu-desktop?
[16:02] <BluesKaj> classic irc etiquette .. gimme a break :)
[16:02] <TsarObomba> or install xfce?
[16:02] <TsarObomba> BluesKaj: sorry im older than you, cant help that
[16:02] <Adam-85> Pici: Failed to execute child process "mkfs.nilfs2 how to fix plz , yeah i'm sure abut make it as ntfs file system
[16:02] <TsarObomba> AQnyways, back to the topic
[16:03] <TsarObomba> Helping this chap with his xorg, that isnt broken
[16:03] <BluesKaj> TsarObomba, I doubt that very much
[16:03] <ferrieres> i got a 11.04 version forst, not liked unity, installed gnome, configure compiz, quiet the plymouth , got the 12.04 and went on hollidays... got back and stuck on this pb since friday
[16:04] <ferrieres> no i'm in a ubuntu at the begining
[16:04] <ferrieres> chap ? what's that ?
[16:04] <OerHeks> Ati 2xxx/3xxx/4xxx are no longer supported by the fglx driver ferrieres. use the open source driver. see the !ati factoid
[16:05] <ferrieres> xorg took smthg like 70% of the CPU till friday... every boot, every try...
[16:05] <ferrieres> i've seen that... i just find out that my ubuntu version is precisely 12.04.3.... the ONE
[16:06] <ferrieres> ok, so instead of fglx, what do i install ?
[16:06] <ferrieres> !ati factoid ? what's that ?
[16:06] <tgm4883> !ati
[16:06] <Adam-85> Failed to execute child process "mkfs.nilfs2" ؟؟
[16:08] <OerHeks> ferrieres, use these 2 lines to uninstall and return to the open driver >> http://askubuntu.com/a/210041
[16:08] <ferrieres> ok, i first reboot... and try xfce4 but i'm not convinced : it's a pb of graphic card driver, i think now..
[16:08] <ferrieres> thx OerHeks, i'll try with lynx to get this lines
[16:08] <OerHeks> ferrieres, hold on, i paste them
[16:09] <mortenmadsen> Can anybody help a NOOB mount a USB drive as RW ???
[16:09] <OerHeks> ferrieres, sudo apt-get remove fglrx-* && sudo sh /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh
[16:09] <TsarObomba> ferret_: you need to make sure radeon supports your card
[16:09] <TsarObomba> but i believe it does
[16:09] <bazhang> mortenmadsen, I've asked twice if you have installed hfsplus and hfsutils yet
[16:09] <ferrieres> ok, i try
[16:10] <ferrieres> let's all believe...
[16:10] <mortenmadsen> bazhang: SORRY i wrote OM to you
[16:10] <bazhang> mortenmadsen, keep it in channel for support please
[16:10] <mortenmadsen> thought you were away ore something :-)
[16:10] <mortenmadsen> sure, no problem
[16:10] <ferrieres> ...wait for login on tty3...
[16:11] <mortenmadsen> Ok, my problem is that I have a USB hfsplus disk, that WAS mounted so i could READ/WRITE to it
[16:11] <mortenmadsen> now I can only read
[16:12] <mortenmadsen> I have installed HFS
[16:12] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: your X server is on tty7
[16:12] <ferrieres> yes
[16:12] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart
[16:12] <ferrieres> not tty...
[16:12] <TsarObomba> do that'
[16:12] <mortenmadsen> bazhang: i have installed hfsplus and hfsutils
[16:12] <ferrieres> i've done service lightdm start... isn't it the same ?
[16:13] <ferrieres> but it still remove the fglrx package
[16:13] <ferrieres> so i wait the end of the removing...
[16:14] <mortenmadsen> bazhang:  I use this: sudo mount -o force -t hfsplus /dev/sdb1 /media/toshiba2tb/
[16:14] <mortenmadsen> bazhang: it says mount: warning: /media/toshiba2tb/ seems to be mounted read-only.
[16:14] <ferrieres> Tsar: do i have to remove fglrx and install radeon or keep fglrx ???
[16:16] <ferrieres> Ok, let's say i remove it because it is written that the 12.04.3 is not supported and try the radeon then rebooting... tsar : do you agree ?
[16:17] <ferrieres> the removing is stuck on updating initramfs
[16:19] <ferrieres> Tsar ? still there ?
[16:19] <Adam-85> Failed to execute child process "mkfs.nilfs2" ؟؟
[16:20] <Pici> Adam-85: You could install the nilfs-tools package, but I really think that you're not clicking on the right option in the disk utility.
[16:21] <Adam-85> how to install ntfs-tools package
[16:21] <geothom> does anybody know what is going on with XMir and Intel?
[16:22] <compdoc> geothom, apparently Intel and the rest of the world are going with Wayland
[16:22] <Pici> Adam-85: again. ntfs is not the same as nilfs2.  You need to make sure that you are clicking on the right option in disk utility for NTFS.
[16:22] <jcbjoe> hi all
[16:22] <geothom> Like redhat take wayland
[16:23] <jcbjoe> am i connected right now ?
[16:23] <jcbjoe> seems like it
[16:23] <Pici> Adam-85: if you still want to continue: sudo apt-get install nilfs-tools
[16:23] <otak> mortenmadsen: start with sudo mount -o remount,rw ...
[16:23] <Adam-85> Pici: done and choose ntfs not ntfs2 but what is different between them ??
[16:24] <Pici> Adam-85: I'm pretty sure that you're not reading the font on your screen properly. Theres no such thing as ntfs2.
[16:26] <ferrieres> Tsar ?
[16:27] <atsui> testing
[16:27] <Sarge> test
[16:27] <ferrieres> Impossible to find the ati, or the radeon package... what should i install, instead of fglrx ???? help !!
[16:27] <jcbjoe> anyone get that ?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> jcbjoe: if you can see text, you are connected
[16:28] <jcbjoe> i basically need a iso (net install) that is live so i can basically boot into ubuntu then install it
[16:28] <jcbjoe> a lot of other ubuntu ios hate the fact i don't have a cdrom and even though i boot via usb it errors out
[16:28] <jcbjoe> s/ios/iso/
[16:28] <Sarge> u can't do a CD install, jcbjoe?
[16:28] <jcbjoe> Sarge i have a lenov twist its a ultrabook where it flips around into tablet mode and whatever .. no cdrom
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> jcbjoe: use unetbootin with the ubuntu iso o make a live usb OS
[16:29] <Sarge> bootable USB stick?
[16:29] <jcbjoe> yes i thought unebootin i just choose the iso then boot
[16:29] <jcbjoe> didn't know unetbootin can make a live iso
[16:30] <ferrieres> ok, i'm helping myself alone : man apt gave me apt-cache search
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> jcbjoe: yes, thats it's job
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> jcbjoe: to put iso on usb
[16:31] <jcbjoe> ActionParsnip do i download the distro first from torrent then use unetbootin or download straight from unetbooin by choosing the os in the presets ?
[16:32] <OerHeks> jrgiffo1 why so many clones?
[16:32] <TsarObomba> Hey guys, im building that kernel now. But I need help with udev rules. It woyuld be a simple rule, its just i cannot wrap my head around how to write it
[16:32] <TsarObomba> basically, something that does this
[16:32] <TsarObomba> chmod 666 /sys/class/leds/tpacpi\:\:thinklight/brightness
[16:33] <TsarObomba> otherwise i need to do that on each boot to access the thinklight without root
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> TsarObomba  have you asked in #ubuntu-kernel, as I suggested earlier?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> jcbjoe: you can download the ISO as you wish, as long as it is complete and consistent it doesnt matter
[16:33] <TsarObomba> and im tyring to make a script for kvirc where it blinks the light on nick highlights
[16:33] <TsarObomba> MonkeyDust: you really thing they are gonna deal with udev?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> jcbjoe: once you have the ISO you can use unetbootin to put t on the USB stick and make it bootable
[16:33] <TsarObomba> udev isnt really kernel, but sure
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> TsarObomba: if you add the command in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line, it will run each boot as root
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> TsarObomba: after the command runs the DM will load
[16:34] <Sarge> I d-l'd ISO from the 'net, saved to local HD, then ran CD burner on it to make bootable copy on CD but USB stick works too.
[16:34] <jcbjoe> yea it looks the same the one coming from unetbootin is 785mb and the torrent one im downading is 7985mb
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> jcbjoe: if you have the ISO and it MD5 tests as Ok, use that
[16:35] <jcbjoe> s/coming/downloading/
[16:35] <TsarObomba> ActionParsnip: oh ya? nice
[16:36] <TsarObomba> TsarObomba: what user runs that?
[16:36] <TsarObomba> root?
[16:36] <dandy^801y^> saaalve!!!
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> TsarObomba: the commands in rc.local run as root
[16:36] <TsarObomba> ok sweet
[16:36] <TsarObomba> thanks bud
[16:36] <dandy^801y^> why ubuntu?
[16:37] <TsarObomba> ActionParsnip: now i need to figure out a simple script to blink it, i know how to turn it off and on. But all the C programs and bash scripts etc are no longer there, links are deads
[16:37] <BluesKaj> why not ubuntu , dandy^801y^?
[16:37] <TsarObomba> ActionParsnip: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkLight
[16:37] <dandy^801y^> the best is fedora
[16:37] <jcbjoe> wow 3,299 seeders for this iso
[16:37] <TsarObomba> Im trying to make a something for kvirc that will blink the light when I get a hilight in a channel im not looking at
[16:38] <TsarObomba> I already have it set to play a sound when a 718 irc numeric comes in (someone not on whitelist messages me)
[16:38] <BluesKaj> ok dandy^801y^ are you going to troll or do you have an ubuntu support question?
[16:38] <TsarObomba> So if I could come up with a script, that would be awesome
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> dandy^801y^: that is offtopic here
[16:38] <dandy^801y^> i have questions
[16:40] <dandy^801y^> how to make install ubuntu dual boot with windows
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> !dualboot
[16:40] <dandy^801y^> host linux
[16:40] <ferrieres> ok, Tsar... can i ask for a litlle more help ?
[16:40] <compdoc> dandy^801y^, careful with that - be sure to back up the drive
[16:40] <dandy^801y^> thx
[16:41] <dandy^801y^> !dualboot
[16:42] <ferrieres> Did I said something that hurt any of TsarObomba or ActionPArsnip ???
[16:42] <compdoc> yikes
[16:42] <BluesKaj> ferrieres, don't ask to ask , just ask :)
[16:42] <TsarObomba> ActionParsnip: one more, on my remote buildbox (very fast desktop, FX-8350 8 core, 32GB DDR3, 5.2TB raid, two SSDs (60GB and 256, with the 256GB dedicated to just my $HOME.
[16:43] <TsarObomba> Anyways, I had to recreate the user I use
[16:43] <ferrieres> Thx BluesKaj...
[16:43] <TsarObomba> Because of issues after moving my files to the different drive when I filled the 60GB doing ancdroid stuff
[16:44] <TsarObomba> But the local user used the KDE user thingy, and it didnt make thre normal .bashrc and whatever other .bash files a normal user would have
[16:44] <TsarObomba> Like using addusder script
[16:44] <ferrieres> there are plenty of package in apt-cache search radeon command... some of them i know (fglrx, xserver-...Ã) and some not ... which one should i install ???
[16:44] <TsarObomba> Could someone tell me which .bash* files they have and maybe pastebin them
[16:44] <TsarObomba> So i dont have to remake the user, again
[16:45] <TsarObomba> I have .bash_history that it made on its own, but my .bashrc wasnt there, so I created it, but only two lines
[16:46] <ferrieres> So that was my question...
[16:46] <jcbjoe> I'm back / i booted my live usb drive with ubuntu 13.0.4 on it .. my trackpad isn't working .. if its not working in the install it won't work when i reboot to the os correct ??
[16:46] <jamiejackson> hi folks. trying to move /usr to another partition. i attached the ubuntu drive and the new usr drive/partition in centos to perform the copy (maybe it would have been better to do this right in ubuntu, i don't know.). i tried copying with "rsync -aXSlv -A", but i'm getting  errors like this:
[16:46] <jamiejackson> rsync: rsync_xal_clear: lremovexattr("src/linux-headers-3.5.0-40/virt/kvm/.Kconfig.Dlnq3T","security.selinux") failed: Permission denied (
[16:46] <ferrieres> ok, bye...
[16:47] <jcbjoe> according to google i have to install it
[16:47] <jamiejackson> what's the best way to copy usr to another partition? (i've googled it, but the results are a little old, and i don't know if they address selinux properly)
[16:47] <jcbjoe> http://www.itworld.com/software/353998/install-synaptic-ubuntu-1304
[16:48] <jamiejackson> (i can handle the fstab bits, but i'm not sure about the copy operation)
[16:48] <TsarObomba> dang, actionparsnip left
[16:48] <jcbjoe> hmm have it installed already
[16:48] <TsarObomba> Anyone else have a stock .bashrc?
[16:49] <SunTsu> jamiejackson: I's use rsync
[16:49] <TsarObomba> Im just looking for the stock .bash* files
[16:49] <SunTsu> "I'd"
[16:49] <TsarObomba> Because i lost them
[16:49] <jcbjoe> input list doesn't show my touchpad or drivers
[16:49] <tsimpson> TsarObomba: /etc/skel/.bashrc
[16:49] <jcbjoe> err xinput*
[16:49] <jamiejackson> SunTsu: did you see my message about my rsync errors (a few posts above)?
[16:49] <SunTsu> jamiejackson: no, I didn't
[16:51] <SunTsu> jamiejackson: looks like SELinux is active, you might want to boot from a live image and do it from there
[16:51] <jamiejackson> SunTsu: i *think* i'm in a simlar context as a live image, as i've attached the drives to another linux. correct me if i'm wrong, please.
[16:52] <SunTsu> jamiejackson: yeah, but this linux might have SELinux enabled
[16:52] <jcbjoe> is 13.04 stable ?
[16:52] <SunTsu> live images never do
[16:53] <jcbjoe> http://askubuntu.com/questions/305820/fresh-13-04-install-laptop-keyboard-touchpad-not-working
[16:53] <jcbjoe> this probably will fix it
[16:53] <jamiejackson> SunTsu: okay, i think i'll try disabling selinux temporarily on centos and try the copy again. if that fails, i'l go to a real live image. SunTsu, could you sanity check my rsync options, above? in particular, am i all set with symlinks, etc.?
[16:55] <pedrog> hi guys, can someone speculate why my broadband pen only works when my laptop is connect to my office dock station
[16:55] <SunTsu> jamiejackson: sorry, currently have the time
[16:55] <SunTsu> er *don't
[16:55] <jamiejackson> np, thanks, SunTsu
[16:57] <jcbjoe> resolution w00t
[17:01] <wilee-nilee> pedrog, broadband pen?
[17:01] <pedrog> wilee-nilee: 3g usb modem
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> pedrog, Outside of any ubuntu support, but it must be voodoo. ;)
[17:05] <tgm4883> Can I ask a question about a program that is in the Ubuntu archives in here?
[17:06] <BluesKaj> tgm4883, ask away
[17:07] <tgm4883> Is there a way to forward all of the email contained in a mailman archive? I'm trying to migrate a list to google groups and keep the archive
[17:10] <megagon> 1
[17:12] <megagon> screen -d
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> pedrog, If you want help though run lsusb and identify the unit.
[17:20] <SuperLag> Second question... I've got a .desktop file created for my IDE, I can see it in the Unity Launcher, and start it from the command line, but it doesn't stay in the launcher when I close it, even though I've selected "Lock to Launcher". What gives?
[17:22] <pedrog> wilee-nilee: looking at that now.... strange the ids are different from my usb_modeswitch.d file
[17:23] <Deevilman> Hey guys. An adept Ubuntu user here. I just decided to update Nvidia drivers and poof. black screen blinking curser. I can't access the terminal or get into failsafe mode.
[17:24]  * pedrog rebooting
[17:24] <nulln0pnap> you may want to boot from a live usb and try to revert the changes
[17:24] <mrrcp> question: Has anyone here setup a code generator login on ubuntu?
[17:25] <mrrcp> or does anyone know how or a site?
[17:25] <Deevilman> I have never figured out hiow to boot from a live medium and then make changes to an existing OS.
[17:27] <Monday> is there a free and open source version of this http://flavio.tordini.org/musictube
[17:28] <nulln0pnap> @Deevilman this may point you in the right direction http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/17322-uninstalling-nvidia-driver.html
[17:28] <nulln0pnap> I would try the last suggestion
[17:29] <chaotic_good> is there a newer LTS thatn 12.04?
[17:29] <tgm4883> Deevilman, I find it odd you can't get to failsafe
[17:29] <mrrcp> so no one uses two factor authentication?
[17:29] <tgm4883> nulln0pnap, the @ isn't needed. I'm not sure if adding the @ would stop users getting pinged on their nick mention or not
[17:29] <tgm4883> mrrcp, I don't for my desktop login
[17:30] <nulln0pnap> tgm4883 ahh, damn Im getting old
[17:30] <tgm4883> mrrcp, also, please note that 2 factor authentication doesn't necessarily mean a key generator
[17:30] <gordonjcp> chaotic_good: no
[17:31] <altermann> hi there, i have 1 ubuntu machine which i've inherited from somebody and which i can't convert to my favorite distro yet
[17:32] <tgm4883> mrrcp, A quick google search found instructions for using Google Authenticator with a Google login
[17:32] <tgm4883> mrrcp, err, ubuntu login
[17:32] <altermann> that being said, connecting to it via ssh takes a while longer then other machines i have on the network
[17:32] <altermann> i noticed there's no dns entry in the sshd_config file
[17:34] <Deevilman> hm, what I can do is drop to shell through recovery mode
[17:34] <Deevilman> but the issue is, nothing gets mounted, so I can't make changes
[17:35] <gordonjcp> Deevilman: look up chroot
[17:35] <tgm4883> Deevilman, you need to remount / as rw
[17:36] <tgm4883> Deevilman, http://askubuntu.com/questions/175739/how-do-i-remount-a-filesystem-as-read-write
[17:36] <Deevilman> how is the remount achieved?
[17:37] <jamiejackson> i'm in the process of moving my /usr to a new partition. i have the old and new mounted in a live cd (centos, fwiw). i'm rsyncing with "sudo rsync -aXS" but am getting a lot of the following messages. can i ignore them? sudo rsync -aXS
[17:37] <mrrcp> so im new to the ipv6 but is it basically setup so you can connect to a device at anytime without the worry of a gateway blocking access to the device?
[17:38] <jamiejackson> ...rsync: rsync_xal_clear: lremovexattr("...", "security.selinux") failed: Permission denied (13)
[17:39] <Deevilman> mountall did it. Cheers guys
[17:40] <darth_damian_000> Hey guys, I am just wondering, if there is a way I can check if my hardware is compatible with ubuntu? I am having so many system crashes lately.
[17:41] <gordonjcp> darth_damian_000: is it some sort of PC?
[17:42] <darth_damian_000> it is a custom-made computer
[17:42] <gordonjcp> custom in what sense?
[17:42] <darth_damian_000> AMD CPU, Nvidia graphics card if any of this info is relevant
[17:42] <darth_damian_000> As in, I ordered the parts myself and put it together
[17:42] <gordonjcp> that's not really very custom
[17:42] <gordonjcp> that's just a PC
[17:42] <gordonjcp> what sort of crashes?
[17:42] <malrog_> Hello i need some help... dont know what to do here = Enable the Universe and Multiverse repositories (for bumblebee and nvidia packages respectively).
[17:42] <darth_damian_000> custom made PC as opposed to some tower I bought in a store
[17:42] <starbuck> hi, i have problem with printing an image. i want it to get fitted into A4 size automatically, without borders... is this possible?
[17:42] <ccolorado> Hi there, How can i set LC_COLLATE for a single user ?
[17:43] <darth_damian_000> First, the screen freezes, then, the image gets distorted (there are a bunch of squares that resemble the desktop image all over the screen) and i am forced to reboot
[17:43] <darth_damian_000> this happens when, for example, I use my mouse scroll wheel excessively, open a large PDF file, even happened when I played freecell
[17:44] <gordonjcp> darth_damian_000: are you running the proprietary NVidia drivers, or nouveau?
[17:45] <mrrcp> d/quit
[17:45] <darth_damian_000> gordonjcp, I do not know. I installed ubuntu 13.04 and I have not made any driver modification. To best answer your question, I would say the "default" drivers that come during installation
[17:45] <darth_damian_000> it was a clean install, by the way
[17:45] <gordonjcp> okay, that's nouveau
[17:45] <gordonjcp> might be worth giving the proprietary drivers a shot?
[17:46] <Sach> Having trouble installing memtest to a usb.  Can someone help me through the instructions?  I'm confused by "As root type: dd if=memtest86-<ver>.usb.img of=dev where dev is the device the key is assigned to"
[17:47] <darth_damian_000> But if anything, it is most likely the graphics drivers?
[17:47] <darth_damian_000> ...that is causing those crashes
[17:47] <illum> Which part is confusing Sach?
[17:48] <|Anthony|> has anyone been able to get echo cancellation to work for mumble?
[17:48] <Deevilman> and I can't login to the tty for some reason. Bare in mind I do almost everything through the terminal
[17:52] <oh_no_> in a routing / subnet bind. I cannot resolve anything by hostname on a different subnet, but can by IP. Would anyone mind helping me out? I'm traversing a FortiGate firewall, but my problem seems to be in DNS/routing.
[17:53] <liquidstone> how to install sdl2 on ubuntu without compiling
[17:54] <sporkeee> Deevilman, less details please. ;)
[17:55] <Sach> Having trouble installing memtest to a usb.  Can someone help me through the instructions?  I'm confused by "As root type: dd if=memtest86-<ver>.usb.img of=dev where dev is the device the key is assigned to"
[17:55] <sanguisdex> ubuntu updater is ignoring the no update settings that I set in aptitude for a package. how to I tell ubuntu updater that I don't want to update a package?
[18:00] <bkfitz> Anyone familiar with using Putty to sftp to ubuntu using key pairs?
[18:04] <Zokmork> xfwm4 is being wonky
[18:05] <Zokmork> It will randomly cause the minimize, maximize, and close window icons to disappear.  I think that xfwm4 is randomly shutting down.  I have no idea why!
[18:06] <Zokmork> The solution to the problem is thus:
[18:06] <Zokmork> (1)  Alt+f2
[18:06]  * reisio expects many more shoes
[18:06] <Zokmork> (2)  Type 'xwfm4'
[18:07] <Zokmork> (3)  Hit run.
[18:07] <reisio> ...
[18:07] <Zokmork> (4)  The problem disappears.
[18:07] <Zokmork> What is triggering the wonkiness?
[18:07] <reisio> did the entire border of the window disappear?
[18:08] <Zokmork> Yes.
[18:08] <Zokmork> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[18:08] <reisio> you might have still been using compiz, and not xfwm at all
[18:08] <reisio> impossible to tell now
[18:09] <Zokmork> I actually tried to run compiz first.
[18:09] <reisio> you probably did
[18:09] <theverant> So I had a 12TB RAID iSCSI server catch fire and I need to access the RAID.  Only the system drive was damaged - it was the molex -> sata power connector that burned, and took out the system drive with it.  The RAID drives and rest of the system are thankfully unharmed
[18:09] <reisio> and it ran without borders, as is its want
[18:09] <reisio> mystery solved
[18:09] <Zokmork> From the 'alt+f2' process.
[18:09] <Zokmork> compiz didn't fix the problem.
[18:09] <theverant> I've put in a new system drive and installed 12.04 LTS server, but wondering if people have ideas about the best way to get that iSCSI back up and running
[18:10] <reisio> s/want/wont/
[18:10] <theverant> without data loss :)
[18:10] <reisio> Zokmork: compiz was the problem
[18:10] <[CaBeTuX]> Hi guys!
[18:11] <Zokmork> reisio:  Before I noticed the problem, was compiz running?
[18:11] <reisio> Zokmork: impossible to tell now
[18:11] <[CaBeTuX]> I need implement pam_tty_audit.so in Ubuntu Server 12.04.02
[18:11] <Zokmork> reisio:  Ok, I'll look up the difference.
[18:11] <theverant> I set up the system 5 years ago and it's run like a champ ever since, so I have completely forgotten the setup routine.  If I assign the volume group and logical volume info to the RAID, will it damage any of the data?
[18:11] <Zokmork> reisio:  Thank you for the assistance.
[18:11] <reisio> :)
[18:12] <curfont> I have an Intel Core 2 6300 / 3 GB RAM oldish PC which used to run windows, and be able to play 1080p fine. I recently put ubuntu and anything that is 1080p doesnt play smoothly
[18:12] <curfont> 720p plays fine
[18:12] <curfont> It has a GTX 275 GPU in it
[18:12] <curfont> latest nvidia drivers
[18:12] <theverant> sfdisk won't read the RAID volume properly because it is a GPT/HFS system
[18:13] <strange> curfont: install vdpau
[18:13] <[CaBeTuX]> I need to audit the commands run as "root" or rather, what interests me most is when a user with permissions for "sudo-i, sudo bash, sudo-s, etc". Because from there lose "visibilty" of what happens.
[18:13] <curfont> strange: and what media player would take advantage of that?
[18:14] <theverant> installing xubuntu desktop now, so I can use gparted and see if there is any useful information I can get about the RAID
[18:14] <strange> xbmc
[18:14] <strange> plays from gpu then
[18:14] <curfont> strange: doesnt xbmc just use mplayer?
[18:14] <strange> no
[18:14] <curfont> i see
[18:14] <strange> it has everyting inhouse now
[18:14] <[CaBeTuX]> pam_tty_audit not are more available, right?
[18:14] <strange> so if you install vdpau
[18:14] <bekks> theverant: just use parted instead of *fdisk
[18:14] <strange> and compile xbmc with vdpau enabled you can play *
[18:14] <theverant> bekks: I don't need to use gparted?
[18:14] <strange> libvdpau0 or something its called
[18:15] <theverant> I didn't realize gparted had a CLI…
[18:15] <bekks> theverant: No.
[18:15] <theverant> bekks: okay I'll start there, thanks
[18:15] <theverant> xubuntu desktop is almost installed now, so I'll just wait for that to finish.  :p
[18:16] <Strit> Hi all! :)
[18:16] <Marble68> HI all. linux experience level = n00b. Tech level=above average Ubuntu Version: server latest stable Problem: I have a Acer Revo (using nVidia drivers mcp79). Everything is connecting to the network great. Wired and Wireless. However, if I unplug the ethernet cable, the wireless stops working. I've tried commenting out eth0 from /etc/network/interfaces to no avail. For some reason, the wireless will NOT work unless the PC is connected
[18:16] <Marble68> a wired network AND eth0 is enabled. I've found a few other people who have similar issues, and their resolutions haven't worked for me. I've configured wpa_supplicant as well as a full setup in interfaces.
[18:17] <Sach> Can anyone  see my problem here?   http://pastebin.com/XhYUAt7F
[18:17] <curfont> strange: in raring it seems the nvidia-vdpau package no longer exists, just vdpau by itself
[18:17] <strange> yes
[18:18] <curfont> does it matter?
[18:18] <curfont> http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/libvdpau1
[18:18] <curfont> it says package not available
[18:18] <strange> sudo apt-get install libvdpau1 libvdpau-dev
[18:18] <strange> those 2
[18:18] <curfont> ok
[18:18] <curfont> both are already installed it seems strange
[18:19] <strange> then install xbmc
[18:19] <strange> and enable vdpau
[18:19] <strange> then you can play 1080p
[18:19] <theverant> so yeah, parted reports proper partitions.  How does that relate to the volume groups and logical volumes?  Are those system based, or are they already assigned on the RAID, and if so, how do I know what they are?
[18:20] <bekks> theverant: We dont know what you can see there :)
[18:20] <theverant> I'll paste bin it
[18:21] <bekks> theverant: Whats does parted show, and whats the output of pvdisplay -C; vgdisplay -C; lvdisplay -C
[18:21] <theverant> http://pastebin.com/qGpZf9EV
[18:21] <theverant> parted
[18:21] <Pancho-j2me> Hola
[18:22] <Marble68> ANyone?
[18:22] <reisio> anyone what?
[18:22] <reisio> Pancho-j2me: shalom
[18:22] <Marble68> Have a suggestion about wifi not working if an ethernet cable isn't plugged in
[18:23] <theverant> Also for your viewing pleasure: http://imagebin.org/270487 http://imagebin.org/270489 http://imagebin.org/270490
[18:23] <theverant> lol
[18:23] <Pancho-j2me> Do you have the drivers for your wifi board?
[18:24] <Marble68> Pancho-j2me: Yes. Wifi works fine IF I also plug an ethernet cable in
[18:24] <theverant> pvdisplay -C: /dev/sda5  cinestor-vg lvm2 a-   55.66g    0
[18:24] <bkfitz> Anyone familiar with using Putty to sftp to ubuntu using key pairs?
[18:24] <Pancho-j2me> But how can u be sure it is not the ethernet giving you access to the internet?
[18:24] <theverant> vgdisplay:  cinestor-vg   1   2   0 wz--n- 55.66g    0
[18:25] <theverant> lvdisplay: root   cinestor-vg -wi-ao 51.66g and swap_1 cinestor-vg -wi-ao  4.00g
[18:25] <Marble68> Pancho-j2me: I don't know
[18:25] <theverant> I haven't tried to do anything with the RAID since I put in the new system drive
[18:26] <RobinHood2013> I'm unable to connect to Facebook via Empathy. The program says "Facebook account requires authorisation." I've tried modifying /usr/shar/accounts/providers/facebook.provider to use HTTPS, but that didn't work.
[18:26] <theverant> so it isn't mounted or anything, yet
[18:26] <Marble68> I can SSH to the WIFI IP address
[18:26] <bekks> theverant: the pv, vg, lv you can see are not on the the disk viewed with parted.
[18:26] <Sach> Having trouble installing memtest to a usb.  Can someone help me through the instructions?  I'm confused by "As root type: dd if=memtest86-<ver>.usb.img of=dev where dev is the device the key is assigned to"
[18:26] <Marble68> :(
[18:26] <theverant> bekks: is there a solution to that?
[18:26] <RobinHood2013> Upon further research, I discovered that a patched version of package 'telepathy-gabble' would fix this issue, but I have no idea how to get the patched version. Can someone help me out here?
[18:26] <bekks> theverant: To what?
[18:27] <Strit> @Marble68 you sure it's the wifi that's working and not just the ethernet?
[18:27] <theverant> sub not showing up in those displays
[18:27] <fanda5> frucoooo
[18:27] <theverant> sub = sdb
[18:27] <acu> I have a series of .jpg images taken 4 frames per second, I want to make movie out of them, what can I use (easiest)
[18:27] <reisio> acu: mencoder
[18:27] <Marble68> Strit: Yes. If cable plugged in, I can reach both statically assigned IPs. I can SSH to them.
[18:27] <bekks> theverant: You have to create a new pv, create a new vg / add the pv to the existing vg, create a new volume.
[18:27] <acu> riesio: do you have any example of what command I need to do ?
[18:27] <reisio> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/menc-feat-enc-images.html
[18:27] <reisio> acu: ^
[18:28] <theverant> bekks - that process won't compromise the data, will it?
[18:28] <bekks> theverant: Which data? On /dev/sdb ?
[18:28] <theverant> yeah,
[18:28] <bekks> theverant: Of course it will.
[18:28] <Marble68> Strit: Aha. you are right
[18:28] <Marble68> Strit: I did ping -I wlan0 and it fails
[18:28] <theverant> that's why I'm asking :D
[18:28] <Strit> :)
[18:28] <Marble68> ok. so this helps
[18:29] <theverant> is there a way to get it accessible without destroying the data?
[18:29] <bekks> theverant: No.
[18:29] <theverant> hmm
[18:30] <theverant> so, even though the RAID is there and the partitions are okay the data is inaccessible?
[18:30] <bekks> theverant: No. :)
[18:30] <bekks> theverant: If you want to access the data, mount the partition seen, and use your data.
[18:31] <theverant> I just can't use it in an iSCSI setup because it doesn't have the LV/VG info?
[18:31] <Marble68> Strit: So I can successfully do a iwlist wlan0 scan
[18:31] <Marble68> Strit: does that mean my drivers are loaded and I've just misconfigured something?
[18:32] <bekks> theverant: The PV/VG/LV configuration is totally irrelevant to iSCSI.
[18:32] <Strit> Marble68: Not sure. Might just mean that the system recognizes a wifi device.
[18:32] <HouseLegend> Hello everyone, i'm having trouble with setting up 5.1. Basicly, i manage to get it working with "alsamixer" in terminal and setting ch from 2 on 6, after a reboot it goes back to 2... and after lock/logout as well. Any tips ?
[18:32] <theverant> hmm
[18:32] <theverant> okay - I'm missing something!  :D
[18:33] <theverant> I was using this guide http://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Ubuntu_12.04&p=iscsi
[18:33] <Marble68> Strit: Ok. So it "sees" the wifi device and it can scan the available networks and list them - but that doesn't necessarily mean it has a driver loaded?
[18:33] <theverant> Where I need to set up Lun 0 Path=/dev/vg_target00/lv_target00,Type=blockio
[18:33] <bekks> theverant: Well, when going to share a LV using iSCSI, you need the LV to be existant...
[18:33] <reisio> HouseLegend: you should probably be utilizing pulseaudio
[18:33] <theverant> ah
[18:33] <theverant> hmm
[18:33] <theverant> okay
[18:33] <theverant> maybe I didn't use LV
[18:34] <FloodBot1> theverant: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:34] <theverant> originally
[18:34] <HouseLegend> reisio, can you give me some tips or a quick guide ?
[18:34] <adzy> god this is difficult to read on  a 1440p monitor
[18:34] <arrun> guys ubuntu's plymouth (graphical one) doesn't show  in virtual box
[18:34] <reisio> HouseLegend: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SurroundSound
[18:34] <arrun> how to make it work
[18:35] <Strit> Marble68: good question. I'd think it has it loadet, but you just haven't connected to anything yet. I mean, it shows the available wifi networks, right?
[18:35] <reisio> arrun: might need to modify kernel modules loaded
[18:35] <HouseLegend> reisio, thanks i will check that out
[18:35] <xtre_> can samba be used to share from one linux machine to another ?
[18:35] <Marble68> Strit: yes
[18:35] <adzy> question: i have auto login enabled on my main account. when i login to an rdp session (xrdp), it starts a new session. any idea how to get it to load up the existing one?
[18:35] <daftykins> xtre_: of course
[18:35] <xtre_> i am setting up ubuntu server as my main machine
[18:35] <bekks> xtre_: For sharing between linux hosts, better use NFS.
[18:35] <Marble68> I've removed the config from interfaces and I'm going to back out the wpa_suplicant configuration
[18:35] <xtre_> daftykins, great :)
[18:35] <reisio> adzy: use VNC instead, tigervnc
[18:35] <arrun> reisio: how to do that ?
[18:36] <arrun> reisio: what should I do for it?
[18:36] <xtre_> bekks, i have windows laptop so i need to use samba.
[18:36] <bekks> xtre_: No, you can still use NFS between the linux hosts.
[18:36] <reisio> arrun: I'd start by putting the output of lspci -n into the box at http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ and making sure all that it spits out is loaded
[18:36] <adzy> reisio, will i need to install anything on my windows machine to access it through vnc? i was hoping to stick to rdp if possible
[18:37] <reisio> adzy: yeah tigervnc's viewer
[18:37] <Strit> Marble68: Well, I'm stumped then. I'd say your drivers are installed, but it just can't connect.
[18:37] <reisio> adzy: sorry I'm not familiar with xrdp, but if it's possible to do simply, it'll be documented
[18:37] <xtre_> bekks, can i use samba and nfs side by side ? is that a good idea ?
[18:37] <adzy> reisio, okay, thanks, i'll give it a go
[18:37] <iliv> bekks xtre_ NFS may not be the best option. It really depends. I actually have NFS *AND* SAMBA installed and configured, but I've been increasingly relying on SAMBA lately on the home LAN. Both have their pros and cons.
[18:38] <reisio> adzy: maybe something like for i in $(dpkg -L xrdp); do egrep -Hi 'existing|current|display|server' "$i"; done
[18:38] <xtre_> iliv, ok :)
[18:38] <compdoc> adzy, are you sure auto login is the reason? I use x11rdp, and I get the same session each time as long as I dont log off. But I dont have  auto login set.
[18:38] <xtre_> i have heared that NFS is more cumbersome to configure and maintain. NFS 4 specifically.
[18:39] <arrun> guys ubuntu's plymouth (graphical one) doesn't show  in virtual box
[18:39] <iliv> xtre_
[18:39] <iliv> oops
[18:39] <bekks> xtre_: You can still use NFSv3
[18:39] <Marble68> Strit: Thanks for the help anyway - at least I'm further than were I was
[18:39] <adzy> reisio, you completely lost me there. is that to search through the documents?
[18:39] <xtre_> ok
[18:39] <Strit> Marble68. No problem. Not that much into Ubuntu yet myself. :)
[18:40] <adzy> compdoc, no idea. i'm assuming so, but i'm probably wrong. all i know is that if i connect a display directly to the ubuntu rig, i get one session, but when i login through xrdp i get a different one
[18:40] <arrun> guys ubuntu's plymouth (graphical one) doesn't show  in virtual box , how to make it run in vbox?
[18:40] <reisio> adzy: yup
[18:40] <iliv> xtre_ not entirely true, either. NFSv4 is configured pretty easily once you know the concepts and understand how software works. It's certainly not any more harder to configure than SAMBA is.
[18:40] <Strit> arrun: Why do you need it?
[18:41] <compdoc> adzy, oh, thats normal. What you want is desktop sharing, which is the only whaty I know to see the same desktop as the console
[18:41] <arrun> Strit: to test
[18:41] <compdoc> *way
[18:42] <xtre_> iliv, ok checking out documentation once again than..
[18:42] <Strit> arrun: As I understand Plymouth is just the splash screen. It's not there for more than a second at my end either (without vbox)
[18:42] <adzy> compdoc, and I'm going to guess using vnc is the way to do that then?
[18:42] <iliv> xtre_ you will probably have to install and configure both to make up your mind
[18:42] <iliv> xtre_: btw they can coexist just fine
[18:43] <compdoc> adzy, Ubuntu come with Vino for that purpose, and you connect with a vnc client to session 5900
[18:43] <iliv> xtre_: so, you could start with whatever seems more friendly/easier to do, and then when're you're all set up and comfortable discover and play with the other
[18:43] <xtre_> iliv, that's really a great idea :D
[18:43] <Lartza> How do I set my locale?
[18:44] <adzy> compdoc, thanks
[18:46] <tberk> r
[18:47] <iliv> xtre_: I recommend that you try out 'usershare' type of shares with SAMBA. They're extremely user-friendly, although proper instructions maybe a bit hard to find. Trust me on this one, though, you'll love them. Why? Normal users (UID>1000) can create and destroy new share without needing root access or restart of SAMBA service. With NFS you'll have to be able to re-export /etc/exports which usually translates to root level access (via sudo or directly root accou
[18:48] <arrun> guys ubuntu's plymouth (graphical one) doesn't show  in virtual box , how to make it run in vbox?
[18:48] <xtre_> iliv, seems interesting...
[18:50] <xtre_> iliv, ubuntu community as well as official documentation would be good source to start right ?
[18:51] <Pici> 70
[18:51] <casper__> hallo
[18:51] <casper__> bye
[18:51] <reisio> bye
[18:53] <iliv> xtre_: probably, I'm not exactly an Ubuntu person. I just happend to be here today lol
[18:53] <xtre_> iliv, then i was lucky to be here today :D
[18:53] <iliv> xtre_: who knows, maybe it is me :D
[18:54] <thecodethinker> I made a .desktop shortcut for gvim and set Terminal to true. As far as my understanding goes, it acts like vim was run from a terminal emulator... is there anyway for me to make it act like it was launched from a login shell instead of a normal one?
[18:54] <xtre_> iliv, generally where do you hang out ?
[18:54] <reisio> thecodethinker: instead of wha?
[18:54] <iliv> xtre_: #English #archlinux etc
[18:54] <blueopc> wich distro is better for gaming ubuntu or opensuse?
[18:54] <xtre_> iliv, cool :D
[18:54] <thecodethinker> reisio: instead of not login shell
[18:55] <iliv> xtre_: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/net.8.html find USERSHARE section
[18:56] <iliv> xtre_: and this in particular was very helpful http://www.swerdna.net.au/suseusershares.html
[18:56] <reisio> thecodethinker: not following :)
[18:56] <thecodethinker> reisio: do you know what a login shell is?
[18:56] <reisio> thecodethinker: mmhmmm
[18:56] <iliv> xtre_: it seems to have been taken down, here's the backup (thanks to the Internet Archive!) http://web.archive.org/web/20130409021149/http://swerdna.net.au/suseusershares.html
[18:56] <xtre_> iliv, this are really useful links...
[18:57] <thecodethinker> reisio: by chance, do you know what rvm is?
[18:57] <xtre_> 2 nd link is still opening..
[18:57] <arrun> guys ubuntu's plymouth (graphical one) doesn't show  in virtual box , how to make it run in vbox?
[18:57] <xtre_> iliv, :)
[18:57] <thecodethinker> reisio: I made a shortcut for gvim to put in that ubuntu sidebar.
[18:57] <reisio> thecodethinker: few things called rvm, I'm not familiar with any of them
[18:57] <reisio> thecodethinker: okay...
[18:58] <thecodethinker> reisio: I need it to run in a login shell though. When I run the shortcut... it runs through a normal shell
[18:58] <reisio> thecodethinker: what's the difference?
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> arrun, vbox has its own drivers basically.
[18:58] <thecodethinker> reisio: I'm using this thing rvm (ruby version manager) and it needs to run in a login shell
[18:58] <reisio> ah that one
[18:58] <agrester> Hello, running 12.04 LTS and often have errors and corrupted downloads/packages, this is affecting system stability, I ran memtest86+ once and it returned some memory errors, but I ran the test again and all sticks have passed the second time around.  What can I do to detect the memory errors and next what can I do to fix the corrupted software?
[18:59] <thecodethinker> agrester: run prime95
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> arrun, There is a #vbox channel id needed.
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> if*
[18:59] <iliv> agrester: run it again, seriously
[18:59] <reisio> thecodethinker: can you not just source the same things from your script/.desktop?
[18:59] <reisio> thecodethinker: or use su -, or sudo
[18:59] <agrester> thecodethinker, iliv, how do I run prime95?
[18:59] <thecodethinker> reisio: no no. it's not a permission issue. it's the way rvm works
[18:59] <reisio> what's the error?
[19:00] <stephenh> hello, is there any mirror that still host hardy for net install ?
[19:01] <thecodethinker> reisio: You need to change your terminal preferences to allow login shell. -_-
[19:01] <stephenh> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ and other mirrors i've looked at don't seem to have it
[19:01] <PocketDog> Listening to any Prince album recorded since 1991 without turning it off, bored, is the new Fruit Pastille challenge
[19:01] <reisio> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[19:01] <thecodethinker> reisio: I know I need login shell. I just don't know how to get a .desktop to run a program in a login shell
[19:01] <PocketDog> oops, wrong channel.
[19:01] <thecodethinker> PocketDog: lol
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> PocketDog, you are correct.
[19:02] <thecodethinker> reisio: I'll just write a script I guess :(
[19:02] <reisio> thecodethinker: maybe ask #rvm
[19:02] <stephenh> reisio: awesome, just came across that thanks ;)  does this mean i'm mounting the iso and hosting on my own webserver somewhere?
[19:02] <thecodethinker> reisio: it has nothing to do with rvm.... rvm is working
[19:02] <thecodethinker> I need to run a login shell from a .desktop file
[19:02] <kalib> Hello guys, I'm using ubuntu 13.04 with postgres 9.0. How can I upgrade my postgres to 9.2? IS there any link with steps? Or any tip?
[19:02] <reisio> thecodethinker: you mentioned it :p
[19:02] <reisio> thecodethinker: why?
[19:02] <thecodethinker> reisio: yeah to give context
[19:02] <reisio> context that is irrelevant to the point of #rvm being useless? :p
[19:03] <reisio> stephenh: hrmm?
[19:03] <thecodethinker> rvm doesn't help with .deskt- nvm... this channel is rarely hepful with anything beyond basics -_-
[19:03] <stephenh> reisio: i'm looking to do a netinstall if possible, rather than install from ISO
[19:04] <reisio> stephenh: right
[19:04] <reisio> stephenh: they call them minimal images now
[19:04] <reisio> stephenh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[19:04] <agrester> iliv - how many times should I run memtest86+ before I can 99% call the stick good?
[19:04] <reisio> minimal cd, even
[19:04] <stephenh> reisio: ah right, sorry.. terminology wrong i guess
[19:05] <stephenh> reisio: i want to install from a mirror, but old-releases just seems to have ISOs unless i'm being blind
[19:05] <reisio> stephenh: you need that old version for some reason?
[19:05] <stephenh> reisio: i'll mount the ISO on a webserver and update my preseed
[19:05] <stephenh> reisio: yea, bunch of in house packages are built for hardy, we're stretched for time
[19:06] <stephenh> it's easier to rebuild hardy boxes than to rebuild all the packages at this time
[19:06] <reisio> seems like maybe you let that go a little too long
[19:06] <stephenh> and then post migration revisit upgrading to precise
[19:06] <stephenh> indeed ..
[19:07] <stephenh> but, can't do anything about it now, so looking for a hardy mirror..
[19:07] <reisio> 'fraid I know nothing about that :) someone else will
[19:07] <stephenh> curious how recently it was removed as i'm sure a colleague was able to install hardy from a mirror recently
[19:07] <reisio> I only know where the install images are
[19:07] <reisio> mmm, well there are lots of mirrors
[19:07] <stephenh> not a train smash, been a super help !   at least i've got an iso - i can sort the rest :)
[19:07] <reisio> probably some are still going
[19:07] <reisio> as to how to find them :p
[19:07] <stephenh> well that's the trick.. tracking them down :P
[19:08] <iliv> agrester: so far it's not clear whether it is memory or not. I'd run at least 3 times, better five just to see some consistency. Also, faulty PSU can cause very weird behavior so don't rule it out as well. Borrow one from a friend and try it out for a day (if you cocnlude memory is OK).
[19:08] <reisio> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[19:08] <stephenh> ta
[19:09] <stephenh> found one!  thanks a lot :)
[19:10] <lovelymortal> hi everyone. im having a bit of trouble with conky. i want to display all of the data units in Mb etc intead of Mib
[19:10] <agrester> iliv, strange everything seems fine so far, but that first test I did with all the sticks at once returned errors...
[19:10] <iliv> agrester: usually, you don't need to wait until the test is over. if memory is faulty, it shows pretty fast (anything over 30 minutes is probably going to mean your memory is doing fine)
[19:11] <iliv> agrester: did you try to test memory bars one by one?
[19:11] <iliv> assuming you have more than one
[19:11] <imMute> so I ahve a 12.04 server with a couple users that log in via XDMCP.  yesterday, it seems the xdmcp server (lightdm?) stopped working - the screen loads, and the mouse moves but nothing can be clicked on.  top shows the X process under lightdm is at 100% CPU.  tried googling a cause/solution but havn't found anything yet.  anyone else notice this?
[19:12] <Strit> lovelymortal: actually it is, it's just another way of displaying MB's.
[19:13] <agrester> iliv, yes that's what I've been doing and the strange thing is that the first test I ever did involved all 4 sticks in at once and then I saw errors, the sticks seem good when tested by themselves
[19:13] <lovelymortal> 1024kib=1mib 1000kb=1mb
[19:13] <lovelymortal> ?
[19:13] <Strit> Ah. my mistake then
[19:13] <iliv> agrester: try them all at once one more time and see if it errors or not
[19:14] <lovelymortal> its fine i just want it to display mb instead
[19:14] <Strit> No idea how to do that. Want that myself. :)
[19:15] <lovelymortal> lets try to find a solution then
[19:15] <lovelymortal> http://conky.sourceforge.net/config_settings.html
[19:17] <lovelymortal> format_human_readable no     it will put it all in bits
[19:18] <lovelymortal> maybe its something to do with this tho
[19:19] <brundy> isodora
[19:19] <brundy> isadora
[19:19] <brundy> huma
[19:19] <lovelymortal> you can use
[19:19] <lovelymortal> short_units yes   to only get m,k,g,t,p,etc but its still mib not mb
[19:20] <brundy> #mint
[19:20] <brundy> quit
[19:20] <brundy> exit
[19:20] <Monday> i have ubuntu installed, can i install windows on dual boot?
[19:21] <brundy> hello première connection IRC, just help ? Thanks
[19:21] <cowbacon> Monday: yes
[19:21] <iliv> Monday: no, we do not give you our permission to do so
[19:21] <iliv> cowbacon: please, stop lying
[19:21] <BluesKaj> !dualboot | Monday
[19:22] <cowbacon> leave the channel iliv if you're just gonna be trolling
[19:22] <iliv> cowbacon: since when humor equals trolling?
[19:22] <BluesKaj> humour?
[19:22] <BluesKaj> what humour
[19:23] <iliv> BluesKaj: what? you can't see it when there's no smiley face on the line?
[19:23] <cowbacon> this is a support channel, by claiming that im lying when im answering a persons question is neither helpful, funny or wanted in this channel
[19:23] <Strit> lovelymortal, well, let me know if you find something. So far I'll just take the MiB version. :)
[19:23] <iliv> cowbacon
[19:23] <iliv> cowbacon: I mean.. *sigh*
[19:24] <iliv> cowbacon: and hey, I've been helpful, can't I mess around a bit now?
[19:24] <imMute> so I ahve a 12.04 server with a couple users that log in via XDMCP.  yesterday, it seems the xdmcp server (lightdm?) stopped working - the screen loads, and the mouse moves but nothing can be clicked on.  top shows the X process under lightdm is at 100% CPU.  tried googling a cause/solution but havn't found anything that fixes it yet.  Also tried GDM, which lets me in on the VT but XDMCP doesn't show anything (just stays that random ga
[19:24] <kalib> Hello guys, I'm using ubuntu 13.04 with postgres 9.0. How can I upgrade my postgres to 9.2? IS there any link with steps? Or any tip?
[19:25] <brundy> #ubuntu-fr
[19:25] <agrester> iliv, are there any alternative memory test suites?
[19:26] <BluesKaj> iliv, go mess around in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:26] <iliv> BluesKaj: I love you dude
[19:26] <iliv> cowbacon: you too!
[19:26] <Strit> kalib, This might help you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/186610/how-do-i-upgrade-to-postgres-9-2
[19:26] <morfeo_81> hi there!!! How can I play dvd on ubuntu 12.04...I have buy new video but I'm not able to see
[19:27] <BluesKaj> <--not a dude . iliv ...I'm old
[19:27] <imMute> interesting.  switched back to lightdm, and it stays frozen at the login screen - mouse moves but clicking does nothing.  if I then use the arrow keys to move the list up or down, it suddenly starts working
[19:27] <iliv> BluesKaj: I still love you old dude ;D
[19:27] <Inquisitive> anyone feel like playing help the noob?
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> !anyone | Inquisitive
[19:28] <BluesKaj> Inquisitive, ask your question and we'll try to help
[19:28] <morfeo_81> I have this error Playback failure:DVDRead could not read block 70.
[19:28] <kalib> Strit: thanks
[19:28] <Inquisitive> ok
[19:28] <Strit> kalib, np mate
[19:28] <Inquisitive> my audio is broke
[19:28] <Inquisitive> it started out just being just VLC but now it even affects my browser
[19:29] <Inquisitive> little bro said it could be something like my drivers
[19:29] <BluesKaj> Inquisitive, is this a new install?
[19:29] <Inquisitive> no it's been lie 9 months now
[19:29] <Inquisitive> it was a "joke"
[19:30] <BluesKaj> have you updated / upgraded lately , Inquisitive ?
[19:30] <Inquisitive> I downloades Batman 1989 and that is when it started
[19:30] <theverant> thanks for your help Bekk.  The archive is alive again
[19:30] <BluesKaj> batman has nothing to do with it :)
[19:30] <theverant> 12TB of student films saved! :D
[19:31] <Inquisitive> well there is my update manager but I take care of it regularly
[19:31] <BluesKaj> ok , Inquisitive run aplay -l in the terminal and pastebin the output
[19:31] <morfeo_81> I have this error Playback failure:DVDRead could not read block 70.
[19:31] <theverant> thanks for your help Bekks.  The archive is alive again
[19:31] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | Inquisitive
[19:32] <Monday> BluesKaj so basically i have to make a partition in ubuntu then install windows on that partition, then to get grub i need to use a liveCD or something?
[19:32] <bekks> theverant: you're welcome :)
[19:32] <kalib> is there a way to search for a package on apt-get but filter only to installed packages?
[19:32] <kalib> for example..
[19:32] <imMute> double interesting: a recently added user has a space in his display name.  removing the space = hunky dory.
[19:32] <theverant> that was a harrowing couple of days
[19:32] <kalib> apt-cache gimp (but show me only gimp packages installed?
[19:32] <BluesKaj> Monday, basically , yes
[19:33] <Monday> i hate grub, i always have problems with it
[19:35] <Inquisitive> here is the pastebin url: http://pastebin.com/f6GpJbMs
[19:35] <BluesKaj> Monday, once on the live cd , run sudo os-prober , then sudo grub-install /dev/sdX , X being the windows  partition assigned letter , most likely sda
[19:35] <Inquisitive> did I do it right
[19:37] <BluesKaj> Inquisitive, ok , in the terminal , sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , if it loads properly there will be no out put from that command , you'll probly need to reboot to make it stick
[19:37] <morfeo_81> Hi!! I have buy sme dvd and are not enabled to play with ubuntu12.04 vlc. Ihave installed allpackege
[19:37] <morfeo_81> someone have ana udea how to resolve?
[19:37] <Strit> morfeo_81, including dvdlibread4?
[19:38] <bleutyler> where do I go for help with ubuntuforums.org?  my account seems to be disabled, and I am not able to use the "contact us" page
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> Monday, Many use the bootrepair app it has a auto generate of the bootinfo summary be sure to keep the generated url to post if you have troubles. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair  One can doo all this from a cli on alive cd, or use supergrub to boot in and do the grub bootloader reload from the desktop.
[19:38] <morfeo_81> Strit, Ihave just included
[19:38] <BluesKaj> Monday,, another alternative is grub-repair
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> bleutyler, Try the #ubuntu-forums channel
[19:38] <Strit> morfeo_81, and restricted-extras?
[19:38] <BluesKaj> !grub-repair | Monday
[19:38] <bleutyler> wilee-nilee thank you
[19:39] <BluesKaj> oops
[19:39] <brundy> bsr, channel en français please ?
[19:39] <BluesKaj> !info grub-repair
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> bleutyler, No problem they can direct you generally
[19:39] <BluesKaj> brundy, /join #ubuntu-fr
[19:39] <Inquisitive> BluesKaj just did it so now shut down and restart?
[19:40] <BluesKaj> just reboot , Inquisitive
[19:40] <lorddune> hi, can someone please help me with a "missing final newline" error while trying to do updates?
[19:40] <brundy> merci, bye
[19:40] <morfeo_81> Strit, I did: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6089496/
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> BluesKaj, There is a bot thankg I never remember it for the bot repair its in the grub info though
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> thang*
[19:40] <Inquisitive> ok i'll be back
[19:41] <Strit> morfeo_81, try the restricted-extras aswell. That worked for me.
[19:41] <lorddune> hi, can someone please help me with a "missing final newline" error while trying to do updates? I have tried every method I found online but cannot seem to make the problem go away.
[19:41] <BluesKaj> Monday, sorry it's called boot-repair doh!
[19:41] <BluesKaj> !boot-repair
[19:42] <BluesKaj> sheesh
[19:42] <BluesKaj> what's happened to the factoids
[19:42] <morfeo_81> Strit, sudo apt-get install restricted-extras
[19:42] <morfeo_81> Strit, ?
[19:42] <iliv> alrighty, signig off
[19:42] <iliv> have fun guys
[19:42] <iliv> BluesKaj: and cowbacon especially you two :P
[19:42] <iliv> peace out
[19:43] <morfeo_81> Strit, It is the new one.. any other idea
[19:44] <Strit> morfeo_81, No idea why it won't play DVD's then. Sorry
[19:45] <agrester> iliv, codethink, I need an alternative tester because it's passing every single time, even with all the dimms in, it only gave a negative result once...
[19:45] <Inquisitive> I'm back
[19:45] <Inquisitive> watching the new Riddick
[19:46] <morfeo_81> Someone else have any idea ..how to resolve?
[19:46] <Inquisitive> So what was the CMD I just entered and where should I start learning all of the sudo and terminal commands...
[19:48] <BluesKaj> !terminal
[19:48] <BluesKaj> !console
[19:48] <BluesKaj> Inquisitive, you loaded the kernel driver for your soundcard , witht hat command
[19:49] <Inquisitive> Oh driver so my little bro was right 5 min no glitches so far so thank you
[19:50] <BluesKaj> sometimes after updates to the system , especially media , the drivers are disabled to let the  updates/upgrades install properly, Inquisitive
[19:51] <BluesKaj> not after but during , rather
[19:51] <Inquisitive> so I have to tell them to turn back on...
[19:51] <BluesKaj> yes , sometimes :)
[19:51] <Inquisitive> well this time it was a bug hidden a torrent file
[19:52] <lorddune> hi, can someone please help me with a "missing final newline" error while trying to do updates? I have tried every method I found online but cannot seem to make the problem go away.
[19:52] <Inquisitive> there was a comment that was bitching about the same problem I was having they called him a noob because it took him over 24 hours to fix
[19:53] <BluesKaj> no , if you've been doing updates regularly with the update manager , which is the same as doing them in the terminal then the drivers cab become disabled
[19:54] <Inquisitive> so It is not going to upset people if I come here with easy to answer Ubuntu questions
[19:54] <Inquisitive> and my linux using friends recommend switching to Kali is it good or better than mu Ubuntu
[19:55] <SonikkuAmerica> Inquisitive: I doubt we'll yell at you, ask up! :)
[19:55] <BluesKaj> Inquisitive in a word , yes , even difficult question
[19:55] <Inquisitive> they said it is not that hard to back up or even carry over my data with a new OS install since they are both linux
[19:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Inquisitive: Just ask your question and we'll help. This isn't the mafia.
[19:56] <Inquisitive> well before I changed my nick I did irritate some with non Ubuntu specific questions
[19:56] <bones> hello
[19:56] <bones> can some one help me
[19:57] <blazemore> !ask
[19:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Inquisitive: Correct. Those are offtopic, we use #ubuntu-offtopic for them.
[19:57] <LarsN> Inquisitive: most of the Ubuntu community has pledged NOT to be jerks. (simplified) http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct
[19:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Inquisitive: And for guessing who'll win the next football game.
[19:57] <Inquisitive> like hey thats not what this forum is for and 1337 speaking experts are kinda intimidating
[19:57] <garheade> clear
[19:57] <garheade> oops... sorry
[19:57] <bones> how you make netflix work
[19:57] <bones> anyone
[19:58] <auronandace> !netflix | bones
[19:58] <LarsN> Inquisitive: also, regarding Kali linux vs Ubuntu.  they are both linux.  they are both based on Debian.  However they are designed to fill very very different roles.
[19:58] <blazemore> Inquisitive: Let's talk about Kali, Ubuntu etc in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:58] <LarsN> Inquisitive: Kali is something I use as a tool while at work performing certain tasks.  Ubuntu is what I use to do 99.95% of my day to day computing and work.
[19:58] <lorddune> hi, can someone please help me with a "missing final newline" error while trying to do updates? I have tried every method I found online but cannot seem to make the problem go away.
[19:59] <blazemore> lorddune: Can you please put the full exact error message, and the command you ran to produce it, on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[19:59] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: I assume this is while running [ sudo apt-get update ]? (Follow blazemore's instructions)
[20:00] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: Yes, and I have tried to install using synaptic, update manager, and the old school terminal methods. All fail.
[20:00] <micah_chatt> I"m running 12.04 on an EC2 machine, kernel 3.2, and when I apt-get install linux-image-3.8.0-30-generic linux-headers-3.8.0-30-generic and reboot.... my kernel version is still at 3.2, any ideas?
[20:00] <Inquisitive> So any recommendations on self teaching myself the in's and outs of terminal and the sudo and other commands plz do not say check out youtube
[20:01] <SonikkuAmerica> !pastebin | lorddune: So go ahead and pastebin the output of [ sudo apt-get update ]
[20:01] <auronandace> !terminal | Inquisitive
[20:01] <kostkon> bones, also there is pipelight http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html
[20:01] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: I've tried every method other than deleting the corrupt files themself and reinstalling them. Am looking for someone to help me through that process.
[20:01] <LarsN> micah_chatt: does the grub bootloader display the new 3.8 kernel in addition to the 3.2 kernel?
[20:02] <LarsN> micah_chatt: it could be as simple as changing which kernel grub boots by default.
[20:03] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: We won't know what the issue is until you follow my instructions above. Run [ sudo apt-get update ], select what displays, then hit Ctrl+Shift+C and paste it into the text window at http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[20:03] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: no need to paste the entire thing, it's always the same error: (Reading database ... 45%dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:  files list file for package 'compiz-plugins' is missing final newline E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[20:03] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: OK.
[20:03] <SonikkuAmerica> One second.
[20:03] <BluesKaj> Inquisitive, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[20:03] <micah_chatt> LarsN where might I find that? I'll pastebin part of my syslog
[20:03] <Inquisitive> well for all intents and purposes it seems to have worked so thanks guys
[20:04] <agrester> Question:  If I a power supply PSU is underpowered for the total wattage of the machine it's in could this cause hardware issues like errors and memory errors?
[20:04] <BluesKaj> Inquisitive, there is one more thing
[20:04] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: Any additional information directly above the "E:" line that would be helpful?
[20:04] <Inquisitive> yeah
[20:04] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: I don't get the error message until it actually tries to install. Fetching the files isn't the problem.
[20:04] <micah_chatt> LarsN: http://pastebin.com/EX1ycfwX
[20:05] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: What does [ sudo dpkg --configure -a ] do for you?
[20:05] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: nothing at all
[20:05] <Inquisitive> fuck it just died again but it went longer than usual [Expletive Deleted]
[20:05] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: -f doesnt do anything either
[20:05] <IdleOne> no it wasn't and please don't curse in here
[20:06] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: OK, one moment
[20:06] <Inquisitive> my head phones will still work it just kills the speakers for EVERYTHING
[20:06] <LarsN> micah_chatt: do you see the 3.8 kernel and bits in /boot ?
[20:07] <Inquisitive> the comments on TPB made it seem like it would be a simple fix
[20:07] <micah_chatt> LarsN: yes http://pastebin.com/wyKnFFaQ
[20:07] <BluesKaj> Inquisitive, alt+F2 , then , gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , then copy and paste this line to the bottom of the file , options snd-hda-intel index=0 ,   and save the file .
[20:07] <Inquisitive> and I saved that page
[20:07] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: Try running the commands in succession: [ cd /var/lib/dpkg/info ], [ mv -f compiz-plugins* /tmp/ ], [ dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/compiz-plugins*.deb ]
[20:08] <LarsN> micah_chatt: chances are you will need to change /etc/defaults/grub (specifically the GRUB_DEFAULT= ) line but I don't know how to quickly determine which one you want.
[20:08] <Inquisitive> gksudo?
[20:08] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: I even tried to use the script I found at this bug report http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1319791
[20:08] <BluesKaj> yup , it still works
[20:08] <LarsN> micah_chatt: I "THINK" you are going to want to replace 0 with 1 or 2 in /etc/defaults/grub.
[20:08] <micah_chatt> LarsN: hmm no file at /etc/defaults/grub
[20:09] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: In the 3rd command, substitute compiz-plugins with the file you're actually trying to install.
[20:09] <LarsN> micah_chatt: this is what I get for being on 13.04.  it's not the same. :/
[20:09] <LarsN> micah_chatt: hmmm...
[20:09] <micah_chatt> ahh etc/default
[20:09] <micah_chatt> not defaults
[20:09] <LarsN> my bad.
[20:09] <BluesKaj> Inquisitive, gksudo is used when opening a gui with permissions
[20:09] <LarsN> chalk it up to LarsN is almost completely stupid.
[20:10] <Inquisitive> so enter the cmd not in terminal but with alt f2
[20:10] <BluesKaj> yes Inquisitive that's called the run command
[20:10] <micah_chatt> Larsn: not at all, you've gotten me in at least the right direction
[20:11] <BluesKaj> you can also cll it with a right click on the desktop and dialog will give the option there
[20:11] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6089622/
[20:11] <micah_chatt> Larsn: in my  /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[20:11] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: I've no idea what file I am trying to replace.
[20:11] <LarsN> micah_chatt: I'm not certain, but I believe with grub2 large parts of those files are dynamically generated.
[20:12] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: What are you trying to install?
[20:12] <LarsN> which is to say when you update, or replace a kernel, manual changes are likely to be overwritten.  hence the /etc/default/grub config.
[20:12] <LarsN> micah_chatt: but again I'm not entirely sure.
[20:12] <micah_chatt> LarsN: that makes sense, my grub is at 1.99
[20:13] <kostkon> lorddune, apt-cache policy compiz-plugins-main
[20:13] <LarsN> micah_chatt: iirc, that's considered grub2
[20:13] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: i don't know, i ran the programs you told me to.
[20:13] <micah_chatt> Ah thanks
[20:13] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: Oh, right, we're trying to apt-get update. Wow. Swing and a miss, strike 1.
[20:13] <micah_chatt> LarsN: but in that dynamically configured file, I do see 3.8 and 3.2 below it
[20:14] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: Run [ sudo apt-get clean && cd /var/lib/apt && sudo mv lists lists.old && sudo mkdir -p lists/partial && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update ]
[20:14] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: yeah, I would delete the corrupted file myself but I cannot figure out how to do that
[20:15] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: I've run all those previuously actually
[20:15] <LarsN> micah_chatt: what's the GRUB_DEFAULT= in /etc/default/grub?
[20:15] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: but running again for kicks & giggles
[20:15] <micah_chatt> LarsN: its 0
[20:16] <LarsN> micah_chatt: hmmm.  if the 3.8 kernel is first in the list it should be booting then.
[20:16] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: hmm it's still running.......a light at the end of the tunnel perhaps
[20:16] <LarsN> if it's second in the list, change the default to 1.
[20:16] <LarsN> and so on.
[20:16] <Aque0s> Hello, can I use $PATH in /etc/environment?
[20:16] <pedromartin> ·ola
[20:16] <micah_chatt> hmm, 3.8 is first
[20:16] <micah_chatt> but i'll try changin that to 1 and see what happens
[20:16] <Aque0s> I'd like to do something like this: $ echo 'PATH=$PATH:/home/meteor/.nvm/v0.8.24/bin' >> /etc/environment
[20:17] <tutak> if i need to install software for 11.10 and i have a choice between 10.04 and 12.04 which one should i choose?
[20:17] <tutak> would they work?
[20:17] <tutak> software meant for 10.04 or 12.04
[20:17] <Luyin> tutak: use 12.04, it's up to date and longer supported.
[20:18] <SonikkuAmerica> tutak: You'll need 12.04 LTS now, unless you're running a server (and why you use 10.04 on a server these days anyway?)
[20:18] <tutak> Luyin, i have 11.10. i need to install some software which is only available for 11.04 and 12.04 versions would they work on my machine?
[20:19] <LarsN> SonikkuAmerica: I'm not defending running old software, but there are many examples of why someone might still be running older versions.
[20:19] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: to give you a bit of background, i've had real bad problems with I/O so had only been doing updates manually
[20:20] <LarsN> top of mind would be older versions of large, complex, packages that aren't easily updated without downtime for $Lots of customers.
[20:20] <tutak> I know i need to upgrade, but am kinda at the wrong place and wrong time for having to start the whole process and take care of any bugs i might encounter
[20:21] <SonikkuAmerica> LarsN: True enough (10.04 server is still supported) but security issues are the main concern.
[20:21] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: OK it finally finished, now what?
[20:21] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: No errors?
[20:22] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: If not, run [ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ], run Synaptic and upgrade, or run the Update Manager again.
[20:23] <tutak> let me rephrase, can software designed for 11.04 or 12.04 be used on 11.10?
[20:23] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[20:23] <ThePendulum> Who helped me with the school network wifi problem earlier?
[20:24] <Benkinooby> tutak: depends. some programs require specififc versions of other programs to work
[20:24] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: Do you know which ones? (Can you pastebin the [ sudo apt-get update ] output again?)
[20:24] <Benkinooby> tutak: but since the versions you mentioned are similar, your chances are good
[20:25] <SonikkuAmerica> ThePendulum: Can't say, but what's up?
[20:25] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6089682/