[00:01] <ca107> hey
[00:02] <ca107> any1 in here?
[00:02] <k1l_> yep
[00:02] <ca107> just installed Ubuntu
[00:03] <ca107> seems pretty good, i am suprised of what Linux is really capable of
[00:03] <rud0lf> it's great, isn't it? :)
[00:03] <ca107> RDP, Team Viewer, Office 365 email via IMAP and SMTP
[00:03] <ca107> yeah it is
[00:04] <ca107> i've messed with kali and the old backtack years ago, but since this win10 deal I am starting to migrate to use linux
[00:06] <ca107> any good pointers to some solid documentation and resources for linux?
[00:07] <k1l_> !rute | ca107
[00:08] <comrade_> you can choose a course on udemy
[00:09] <ca107> thx ubottu
[00:11] <skypce> help me please
[00:12] <skypce> INFO 	lmms_1.1.90-0~2~ubuntu14.04.1.dsc: Version older than that in the archive. 1.1.90-0~2~ubuntu14.04.1 <= 1.1.90-1ubuntu0
[00:14] <k1l_> skypce: "apt-cache policy lmms| nc termbin.com 9999"
[00:14] <k1l_> skypce: please show the url here
[00:14] <skypce> http://termbin.com/9otk
[00:14] <skypce> k1l_,
[00:14] <comrade_> what do you guys prefer, mint or ubuntu ?
[00:15] <comrade_> I'm new @linux just curious
[00:15] <skypce> comrade_, try with unidockynapse :D
[00:15] <k1l_> comrade_: ubuntu (since you ask in #ubuntu)
[00:15] <GFXDude> I am having an issue upgrading a few systems. They have long since been upgraded to 12.04 LTS from 8.04 way back when, and it appears whomever did the upgrades in the past did not do so properly. The issue at hand is: http://pastebin.com/raw/y6tLUf3L
[00:16] <GFXDude> The libc6 on the system is 2.15-0ubuntu10.6, however it needs to be up to 2.15-0ubuntu10.13
[00:16] <GFXDude> I would assume a round of: apt-get update     apt-get upgrade
[00:16] <skypce> talking about ubuntu, the 16.04 version, now has bottom launcher, but will be with indellihide ?
[00:16] <GFXDude> would resolve the issue
[00:16] <k1l_> skypce: erm. that doesnt make sense. can you give more details what your issue is?
[00:16] <GFXDude> However, the upgrade spits out the pastebin result as well
[00:17] <GFXDude> So, I believe my final solution will be downloading the package manually and installing
[00:17] <skypce> k1l_, may be the problem is the folder
[00:17] <skypce> i am creating a package new
[00:17] <GFXDude> I ran: apt-cache policy libc6        It reports the Candidate: 2.15-0ubuntu10.13
[00:17] <k1l_> GFXDude: "sudo apt-get install && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[00:18] <GFXDude> k1l_, I would like to resolve the issue without dist-upgrade at this time
[00:18] <GFXDude> We plan to devise an upgrade scheme to move to 16.04 once it is released
[00:18] <k1l_> GFXDude: apt-get dist-upgrade will not bring you to the ubuntu 14.04 release
[00:18] <k1l_> (that would be the "do-release-upgrade" command)
[00:19] <GFXDude> hmm, ok, let me review what dist-upgrade is for before issuing it
[00:19] <k1l_> apt-get cant remove or install new packages as depencies with the "apt-get upgrade" option. it needs the dist-upgrade option for that.
[00:20] <k1l_> (on the new apt command it  got renamed to "apt full-upgrade" to resolve that confusing naming.
[00:22] <GFXDude> k1l_, are there any specific sources needed for appropriate resolution? This machine is essentially just used to run OpenVPN Acess Server. The current sources.list is: http://pastebin.com/raw/9yNWbeNX
[00:22] <GFXDude> I have commented out the natty
[00:22] <GFXDude> I'm not sure why that's there... It's not on my stock release image of this version, I believe someone in the past has added it for some unknown reason
[00:23] <k1l_> uh, mixing releases is not good
[00:24] <GFXDude> yeah... This product has a long line of random developers getting their hands dirty with it. I'm looking to rectify those issues and clean up all of our deployed systems.
[00:24] <k1l_> comment that out. then run apt-get update
[00:25] <GFXDude> ok, updated, now i'll issue your previous command
[00:25] <k1l_> what does a "apt-cache policy libc6 libc-bin" say?
[00:25] <GFXDude> 1 sec
[00:25] <GFXDude> libc-bin is up to date
[00:26] <GFXDude> libc6 states that 2.15-0ubuntu10.6 is installed, and the candidate is 2.15-0ubuntu10.13
[00:26] <GFXDude> so that seems appropriate
[00:27] <k1l_> and libc-bin?
[00:27] <GFXDude> libc-bin says 2.15-0ubuntu10.13 installed, 2.15-0ubuntu10.13 candidate
[00:28] <k1l_> try the apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:29] <k1l_> if that still doesnt help you can run "apt-get install -f" which will force it
[00:30] <GFXDude> the update && dist-upgrade gives the same error
[00:30] <k1l_> skypce: wait, why you have lucid and trusty repos enabled?
[00:30] <k1l_> GFXDude: ok, then apt-get install -f
[00:31] <skypce> k1l_, it is by default kxstudio-repos
[00:31] <k1l_> skypce: that is crap.
[00:32] <GFXDude> k1l_, doing that states that LD_LIBRARY_PATH contains the traditional /lib direcotry, but not the multiarch directory /lib/i386-linux-gnu. It is not safe to ugprade the C library in this situation; please remove the /lib/directory from LD_LIBRARY_PATH and try again
[00:32] <user52> hola
[00:32] <GFXDude> I have attempted the install -f in the past
[00:32] <k1l_> GFXDude: hmm.
[00:32] <GFXDude> I've attempted to add the /lib/i386-linux-gnu to LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and that ends up getting further, but still errors with the aforementoined libc6 issue
[00:35] <k1l_> GFXDude: "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu:/lib/i386-linux-gnu" seems to be a fix/workaround for that
[00:35] <GFXDude> You can see the full error here: http://pastebin.com/raw/QDB9ftDS
[00:35] <GFXDude> k1l_, so completely overwrite LD_LIBRARY_PATH instead of appending?
[00:36] <k1l_> GFXDude: you could append it if there is other stuff in it
[00:36] <GFXDude> It is currently: /lib:/usr/lib:/opt/vmware/lib
[00:37] <k1l_> hmm
[00:37] <k1l_> add the 2 from me
[00:37] <GFXDude> So: "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu:/lib/i386-linux-gnu"
[00:40] <GFXDude> Aha! Adding those two then: apt-get install -y -f      the apt-cache policy libc6 now shows 2.15-0ubuntu10.13 for both
[00:40] <k1l_> ok
[00:41] <k1l_> you will need to run the apt-get dist-upgrade, too. "1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 125 not upgraded."  says there are lots of updates waiting
[00:41] <GFXDude> Trying it now
[00:41] <k1l_> but look at what it wants to update there. i bet its kernels etc.
[00:42] <GFXDude> Nice, I've been wondering why it wouldn't ever upgrade past linux-image-3.2.0-56... now it wants to install 3.2.0-101
[00:42] <k1l_> yeah, the libc issue was keeping the updates back
[00:43] <GFXDude> There are many old kernels on here, that too needs resolving
[00:43] <GFXDude> I'm worried that running the dist-upgrade before removing the old kernels may fill the /dev/sda1 boot partition
[00:43] <GFXDude> it's currently at 76% use
[00:43] <k1l_> ah yeah.
[00:44] <k1l_> dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[00:44] <k1l_> that will list the old kernelpackages
[00:44] <GFXDude> The goal is to automate this in a bash script, I'm not sure how safe removing old kernels via .sh would be
[00:44] <k1l_> there are bash oneliners to remove all but the 2 last kernels
[00:45] <GFXDude> current kernels: http://pastebin.com/raw/GeVmPcr7
[00:45] <GFXDude> I know all 2.6.foo should be removed
[00:45] <k1l_> apt-get purge linux-image-2.6*
[00:45] <GFXDude> i'd like to find a one-liner that verifies it's not removing the current kernel listed from "uname -r"
[00:46] <GFXDude> One liner isn't necessary, it'll be in a .sh doing other things like upgrading openvpn
[00:47] <k1l_> http://askubuntu.com/a/254585/31260
[00:47] <gshmu> http://img.vim-cn.com/0e/67f9664ad8df58ca8a3cd8e77b92c72221ac66.png
[00:48] <gshmu> Ubuntu uname -a
[00:48] <gshmu> Linux  4.4.0-14-generic #30~14.04.2-Ubuntu SMP Thu Mar 17 17:15:49 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:48] <k1l_> GFXDude: as long os "linux-generic" is installed you will always have the latest kernel and headers installed.
[00:48] <k1l_> *as
[00:52] <GFXDude> k1l_, from the link provided, I am running: "dpkg --list | grep linux-image | awk '{ print $2 }' | sort -V | sed -e '/'`uname -r`'/q;p'  "
[00:53] <GFXDude> To check the list
[00:53] <GFXDude> uname -r prints "3.2.0-67-generic-pae"
[00:53] <GFXDude> however the dpkg...sed command includes "linux-image-3.2.0-67-generic-pae" in the list
[00:54] <GFXDude> I believe due to the "linux-image-" part
[00:55] <k1l_> GFXDude: why sed -e?
[00:56] <GFXDude> Ehh, does the same without -e
[00:56] <k1l_> -n
[00:57] <GFXDude> Hmm, I was under the impression that -n wouldn't output anything
[00:57] <GFXDude> But man sed shows me that the p at the end fixes that
[00:58] <GFXDude> so, -n shows the expected output, though it still include "linux-image-3.2.0-67-generic"
[00:58] <GFXDude> without the -pae
[00:59] <k1l_> somewhere ubuntu did include the pae as standard in the kernels and dropped the -pae naming
[01:00] <GFXDude> So, having the "...generic" and "...generic-pae" both installed, and allowing the "...generic" to be purged is the expected result?
[01:01] <trevor_s> hey has anyone had success dual booting windows 10 and ubuntu? both with 'full disk encryption'?
[01:02] <GFXDude> I'll test it out on some test environment equipment, Thanks for all of the help k1l_, I owe you a couple beers!
[01:02] <k1l_> np, gl :)
[01:08] <sh0t> hi guys i upgraded to 15.10
[01:08] <sh0t> and now i don't have gnome-sound-applet
[01:08] <sh0t> anymore
[01:08] <sh0t> but indicator-sound is installed
[01:08] <sh0t> so apt says
[01:12] <gshmu> thanks, but the message display miss many chart
[01:13] <ksft> I'm trying to compile a thing, but it's saying this:
[01:13] <ksft> "fatal error: hunspell/hunspell.hxx: No such file or directory, #include "hunspell/hunspell.hxx""
[01:14] <ksft> is that something that someone could possibly help me with without being familiar with the thing I'm compiling?
[01:15] <Hydr0p0nX> ksft https://github.com/cloose/CuteMarkEd/issues/117
[01:17] <ksft> Hydr0p0nX: is there a workaround someone there figured out that I'm missing?
[01:18] <vervet> ksft: assuming you have libhunspell-dev installed right?
[01:18] <connor_> test
[01:19] <ksft> vervet: I think so
[01:19] <connor_> can anyone hear/see me
[01:19] <ksft> connor_: yes
[01:19] <connor_> good
[01:19] <ksft> vervet: huh
[01:19] <ksft> well that solves that
[01:20] <ksft> now I'm getting different errors that you probably can't help with
[01:20] <ksft> oh wait
[01:20] <ksft> they seem to be coming from Boost
[01:20] <GFXDude> k1l_, I'm now getting a similar issue for libc6-dev. "apt-cache policy libc6-dev" reports 2.15-0ubuntu10.12 Installed, 2.15-0ubuntu10.13 Candidate
[01:21] <ksft> "/usr/include/boost/functional/hash/extensions.hpp:269:34: note:   ‘const wxUniChar’ is not derived from ‘const std::complex<_Tp>’ return hash_value(val);"
[01:22] <GFXDude> That comes from an: "apt-get -f install"
[01:22] <vervet> ksft: is the compile failing on that? doesn't seem like it should
[01:22] <ksft> vervet: there are a lot of other errors too
[01:23] <GFXDude> full output here: http://pastebin.com/raw/rbG74Tg3
[01:24] <vervet> ksft: possibly warning messages from gcc? if you get something like "failed to make target .." please post though
[01:26] <ksft> vervet: that phrase is not in the output
[01:26] <ksft> how do I know if it succeeded?
[01:27] <ksft> where would it put the executable?
[01:29] <vervet> ksft: if you were just running make it should be in the build directory, possibly in a folder like ./bin
[01:29] <ksft> vervet: I don't see a folder like that
[01:30] <GFXDude> k1l_, it seems to be stemming from doing "apt-get update" before the export and "apt-get -f install", doing the install before update installs the 2.15-0ubuntu10.12 version of each without any issues. I believe I'll just stick with that path, do the upgrade and then try dist-upgrade.
[01:30] <ksft> there are no new folders there at all
[01:31] <Jordan_U> ksft: Why are you building hunspell from source?
[01:31] <ksft> Jordan_U: I'm not
[01:31] <ksft> I'm building a thing that uses hunspell
[01:31] <Jordan_U> ksft: What are you trying to build from source and why?
[01:32] <ksft> Jordan_U: a program called Magic Set Editor because the precompiled binaries don't work according to the website
[01:32] <temmi_hoo> Jordan_U, k1l_ I thought the version numbers were semantic and only now read how they work in ubuntu as opposed to many other sw. Also, i thought the codenames were from debian, which at least started with character names from the movie toy story. Apologies for being a rude person on channel.
[01:34] <vervet> ksft: did you get any other exit errors? did the compile complete? any info would help
[01:35] <temmi_hoo> About the techy problem I know where I went wrong and that the easiest way to fix it is to install 15.10 on top of existing mess that resulted when my wrong acts caused do-release-upgrade to jump 14.04 -> 15.10
[01:35] <temmi_hoo> also, that has to be done on site as my ssh session to the machine does not last very long
[01:37] <ksft> vervet: here's the full output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15662843/
[01:40] <vervet> ksft: ok thanks, before running make were you able to get a successful ./configure?
[01:42] <ksft> vervet: I think so
[01:43] <ksft> vervet: just tried configuring a new copy
[01:43] <ksft> it seems successful, but then it says this at the end:
[01:43] <ksft> "configure: error: Could not find a version of the Boost::Regex library!"
[01:44] <Jordan_U> ksft: http://askubuntu.com/questions/267949/trying-to-compile-magic-set-editor
[01:45] <vervet> ksft: I was just about to send you the same link, I'd install all those dependencies mentioned there
[01:45] <vervet> ksft: libboost-all-dev will likely take care of that last error
[01:46] <ksft> vervet: tried installing that package
[01:46] <ksft> "Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[01:46] <ksft> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[01:46] <ksft> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[01:46] <ksft> or been moved out of Incoming."
[01:47] <Jordan_U> ksft: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[01:47] <ksft> Jordan_U: 14.04
[01:53] <Knoodle> hello people i have a problem with my ubuntu 15.10 on Lenovo laptop
[01:53] <Knoodle> somebody can help?
[01:54] <Hydr0p0nX> whats the problem?
[01:54] <Bashing-om> !details | Knoodle
[01:54] <rhorse_> Hi, I'm using 15.10 with grub-efi. If I install another distro on a partition on the same disk, will Ubuntu find it and display a grub menu for making a choice? Right now, no menu is displayed.
[01:54] <tarabay> yeah man! dotn ask to ask
[01:54] <rhorse_> Hi, I'm using 15.10 with grub-efi. If I install another distro on a partition on the same disk, will Ubuntu find it and display a grub menu for making a choice? Right now, no menu is displayed.
[01:54] <vervet> ksft: is your system up-to-date/clean?
[01:54] <Knoodle> my computer doesnt shutdown properly neither reboot. and if i set it to sleep closing it... then it stuck and cant awake it- i ve tried to change the grub configuration but.. nothing.. any idea?
[01:55] <Bashing-om> rhorse_: That last install made in EFI mode also ? as the 2 are not compatible .
[01:55] <Jordan_U> rhorse_: Please don't repeat yourself. Wait at least 5 minutes before re-posting your question.
[01:55] <rhorse_> Jordan_U: yea, sorry, I didn't see the first post...
[01:56] <Hydr0p0nX> Knoodle, what happens when you shutdown or reboot ?
[01:56] <rhorse_> Bashing-om: What is not compatible?
[01:57] <NETWizz> I just installed the insider win 10 with Bash
[01:57] <Knoodle> the pc just get stuck... doesnt switch off completely
[01:57] <Bashing-om> rhorse_: If intalled in bios as opposed to EFI .
[01:57] <Knoodle> for example... the van and the mouse light stay on
[01:57] <Jordan_U> rhorse_: Ubuntu's update-grub automatically run os-prober to search for other OSs. If any other OSs that can be booted are found they will be added to the grub menu and the grub menu will be unhidden. That said, most likely the distribution you install will install its own version of grub which will take precidence over Ubuntu's (but which should add Ubuntu to *its* grub menu).
[01:57] <NETWizz> Can it run all my Ubuntu stuff?
[01:57] <stormchaser3000> well i was just on another channel that is for my distro but i didn't get any help there
[01:58] <Jordan_U> !win10 | NETWizz
[01:58] <Knoodle> and for example if i try to reboot... it stays like that.. and doesnt restart
[01:58] <Knoodle> and... when i close the laptop.. then i can not awake it back
[01:59] <stormchaser3000> anyone know how to get around the error about libcompizconfig configure script not seeing that compiz is installed?
[01:59] <Hydr0p0nX> Knoodle: anything on the screen when it gets stuck ?
[01:59] <stormchaser3000> (the one from the compiz-reloaded repo)
[01:59] <rhorse_> Jordan_U: if I don't install grub for the new OS, will it be found? Do I have to make the second OS aware of UEFI in any way, or do I just install to HDD?
[02:00] <xangua> stormchaser3000: because it needs compiz reloaded?
[02:00] <Knoodle> just the pink screen with small white dots of Ubuntu..
[02:00] <stormchaser3000> xangua: compiz from the compiz-reloaded repo is installed
[02:00] <xangua> stormchaser3000: if you have any problem with a third party repository, contacts the maintainer
[02:00] <Knoodle> so... i have to force the shutdown pressing the power button
[02:00] <stormchaser3000> i did but everyone on that channel is afk
[02:01] <Jordan_U> rhorse_: If you don't install grub for the new OS then you will just need to boot into Ubuntu and run "sudo update-grub" to get the new OS added to grub's menu. You don't need to make the second OS install a UEFI bootloader, but if it's a distribution which doesn't support UEFI you're likely to run into problems (Ubuntu's grub will boot it via UEFI, and it may or may not handle that correctly). Most distr
[02:01] <Jordan_U> ibutions support UEFI will now.
[02:02] <Hydr0p0nX> knoodle: what model laptop ?
[02:02] <Knoodle> lenovo B50-30
[02:03] <Knoodle> i ve tried to change the grub config but nothing changed...
[02:03] <Hydr0p0nX> Knoodle: http://askubuntu.com/questions/645557/lubuntu-shutdown-process-freezes indicates there's a bios update that may be needed
[02:04] <Knoodle> cool
[02:04] <ksft> vervet: I'm pretty sure it's up to date
[02:04] <ksft> I don't know what you mean by
[02:04] <ksft> "clean"
[02:04] <Jordan_U> ksft: The fact that the most recent commit was made in 2012, and that it's a C++ app, doesn't bode well for it compiling and running in 14.04.
[02:04] <Knoodle> the problem is that i asked to the Lenovo assistance but they say Linux is not supported by them
[02:04] <ksft> whoops
[02:04] <rhorse_> Jordan_U: thank you!
[02:04] <Jordan_U> rhorse_: You're welcome.
[02:04] <Knoodle> so.. you think i can make a bios update from linux?
[02:04] <ksft> Jordan_U: is there something wrong with C++ on Ubuntu?
[02:04] <Hydr0p0nX> according to the link, no
[02:05] <Hydr0p0nX> but you may be able to from a winPE type disk
[02:05] <Knoodle> oops.. i see only from windows... that sucks
[02:06] <vervet> ksft: apt-get update/upgrade may help just in case, so that any package dependencies aren't locked back.. and not with c++ itself but the versions of dependencies, e.g. all those packages listed may have been updated since
[02:06] <Hydr0p0nX> might try just the grub updates first
[02:07] <Knoodle> thank you anyway
[02:07] <vervet> ksft: so idk if the update will help or not, it's hard to know just guessing at the dependencies
[02:08] <tooryasnm> hello
[02:08] <tooryasnm> sup people
[02:08] <ksft> vervet: did that
[02:08] <ksft> still can't install libboost-all-dev
[02:09] <Hydr0p0nX> Knoodle:  http://windowsmatters.com/2015/01/10/gandalfs-windows-7-pe-x86/ + a USB w/ the bios update might work
[02:10] <Jordan_U> ksft: Please pastebin the complete output of "sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev".
[02:10] <tooryasnm> ksft, whats the problem amte?
[02:11] <AphelionZ> Heyo, can anybody explain to me how the python installation(s) work on an out-of-the-box Ubuntu install? I only ask because when I pip install something, I dont get the executable in the path and it seems like there's something I'm missing or something that's not right...
[02:11] <Hydr0p0nX> Knoodle: please keep it in the channel
[02:11] <ksft> Jordan_U, tooryasnm: here's the full output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15663030/
[02:12] <AphelionZ> I understand that there's python, python2.7, python3.4, and python3.5 but neither pip, sudo pip, nor python -m pip are successfully installing tools like jupyter on my path
[02:13] <rick__> Hi All, How to compare two environment in udev? I tried ENV{key1}=="$env{key2} but fail
[02:15] <GFXDude> I've managed to get past my earlier trials. Now my issue is when attempting to programmatically do "apt-get dist-upgrade". I would like to auto-select the "install the package maintainer's version" option when it is installing the latest grub menu, however everything I've found in regards to it doesn't work for me. I've set "DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive" and I've tried: DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
[02:15] <GFXDude> apt-get -y -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confdef" -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" dist-upgrade
[02:15] <GFXDude> however I still get the pink screen prompting me to choose if I want to keep the locally modified version
[02:15] <vervet> AphelionZ: may want to check pip --version
[02:16] <AphelionZ> pip 1.5.6 from /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages (python 2.7)
[02:17] <AphelionZ> does that mean my executables are in /usr/lib/python2.7 somewhere?
[02:17] <vervet> ksft: http://askubuntu.com/a/223267 -- possibly?
[02:18] <ksft> what are held packages?
[02:18] <tooryasnm> AphelionZ, can u private?
[02:18] <Jordan_U> ksft: Please pastebin the output of "lsb_release -a" and "sudo apt-get -f install".
[02:19] <guideX> is it possible to install team viewer on ubuntu
[02:19] <guideX> I get all these "team viewer depends on blah blah"
[02:19] <wh3ko19> guideX: I have it installed.
[02:20] <wh3ko19> It's been a while since I did it, though, so I can't really give you more than an existence proof.
[02:20] <guideX> ah ok cool
[02:20] <wh3ko19> I think they have a .deb or something you can download.
[02:20] <ksft> Jordan_U: I assume that's "sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev"
[02:20] <ksft> right?
[02:20] <guideX> yeah I have the .deb, and I tried the command.. but there's like 20 other things it depends on it seems
[02:20] <ksft> -f*
[02:20] <wh3ko19> Question: Is there a repository of the source for various Ubuntu packages? I think there's an Ubuntu-specific bug in Python 3.4, but I can't find the CPython source they used.
[02:20] <ksft> sudo apt-get -f install libboost-all-dev
[02:21] <vervet> AphelionZ: not 100% where it defaults to but yes, would have installed for 2.7 -- which version of python were you trying to run with? that's likely the discrepancy
[02:21] <wh3ko19> The github CPython repo doesn't have the bug.
[02:22] <ksft> same error
[02:22] <ksft> the first command says that it's Ubuntu 14.04 trusty
[02:22] <guideX> ah man, so when I try to get one of the things team viewer depends on, there's like 30 new things to get.. is there some way to just get everything it needs?
[02:22] <AphelionZ> vervet: running 2.7 for now - thats what pip --version, sudo pip --version and python -m pip --version all report
[02:22] <wh3ko19> guideX: Maybe try sudo apt-get build-dep teamviewer?
[02:23] <AphelionZ> I can run them from python -m _____ though!
[02:23] <davido> Last I checked (which wasn't recently) the Boost .deb's were a minor version or two behind though. If you want freshest, go to boost and compile.
[02:23] <AphelionZ> as in python -m jupyter
[02:23] <wh3ko19> I'm a bit rusty with that stuff.
[02:23] <guideX> ah ok
[02:23] <guideX> trying it..
[02:23] <guideX> no, unable to find package source for teamviewer
[02:23] <wh3ko19> I guess teamviewer is not in the repo, there might be a ppa for it.
[02:24] <guideX> ah ok
[02:24] <guideX> so I guess linux doesn't have like installers
[02:24] <guideX> er ubuntu
[02:24] <wh3ko19> Usually you use apt or that application store.
[02:24] <wh3ko19> There's also the .deb things, those are kinda like installers.
[02:24] <wh3ko19> I dunno how they handle dependencies.
[02:24] <vervet> AphelionZ: if they are modules you were trying to run, yes, sorry - should've asked first hand
[02:25] <AphelionZ> vervet: it's ok
[02:25] <wh3ko19> Usually for the useful stuff someone puts up a ppa if it's not supported in the official repo.
[02:25] <guideX> ah ok
[02:25] <wh3ko19> guideX: Try this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/453157/how-to-install-teamviewer-on-14-04
[02:25] <Hydr0p0nX> guideX: maybe - http://www.geekssharingspace.org/2015/01/how-to-install-teamviewer-10-via-ppa-on.html
[02:25] <AphelionZ> but on other systems ive been able to say, `pip install jupyter`, and then just run `jupyter`
[02:25] <AphelionZ> not python -m jupyter
[02:25] <Jordan_U> ksft: No, literally "sudo apt-get -f install".
[02:25] <wh3ko19> AphelionZ: What about typing "which python" vs "which Jupyter"?
[02:26] <davido> you're not using something like pyenv are you?
[02:26] <wh3ko19> AphelionZ: Maybe your alias for jupyter is for a different one than the python alias.
[02:26] <AphelionZ> wh3ko19: /usr/bin/python and null
[02:27] <wh3ko19> You don't have a jupyter alias then, right? Probably it's in /usr/bin/lib/python2.7?
[02:27] <FManTropyx> would you recommend vsftpd?
[02:28] <somsip> FManTropyx: only if you really mus have ftp, but I found it easy to setup
[02:28] <guideX> hrm, I wonder if something's wrong with my ubuntu.. I tried the sudo apt-get install gdebi but it needs all these dependencies
[02:28] <wh3ko19> Is there a way to use apt to get a source distribution?
[02:28] <ksft> Jordan_U: done
[02:28] <guideX> I don't understand why ubuntu isn't handling the dependencies automatically
[02:28] <ksft> doesn't seem to have done anything
[02:28] <Jordan_U> ksft: Please pastebin the complete output.
[02:29] <somsip> wh3ko19: apt-get source {packagename}
[02:29] <Hydr0p0nX> guideX: what version are you trying to install?
[02:29] <wh3ko19> somsip: Danke schoen.
[02:29] <AphelionZ> wh3ko19: yes thats the problem, but i think the underlying issue is that pip didnt create that for me? on other systems it used to
[02:29] <somsip> wh3ko19: np
[02:29] <AphelionZ> but thank you! yes!
[02:30] <guideX> Hydr0p0nX: I have ubuntu 14.04
[02:30] <wh3ko19> AphelionZ: I think the problem is that /usr/bin/lib/python2.7 isn't in your path.
[02:30] <rhorse_> guideX: can you pastebin the output of apt-get?
[02:30] <wh3ko19> I think just modify your ~/.bashrc to add it in.
[02:30] <guideX> hrm, hold on
[02:31] <AphelionZ> wh3ko19: let me see, one sec
[02:31] <wh3ko19> Actually, AphelionZ, it seems to me that it should be in /usr/local/bin
[02:31] <guideX> http://pastebin.com/HLAmAQzZ
[02:31] <AphelionZ> yeah something in /usr/local/bin should point to the dist-packages
[02:31] <guideX> rhorse_ ^
[02:32] <AphelionZ> shouldn't pip do that?
[02:32] <guideX> it needs like so many things lol
[02:32] <guideX> and then, when I try to install one of those things, that thing needs so many thigns
[02:32] <wh3ko19> AphelionZ: I think usually pip will install something directly in /usr/local/bin, depending on how you ran it.
[02:32] <wh3ko19> I certainly have a jupyter in /usr/local/bin
[02:32] <wh3ko19> Though the one I'm actually using is the one provided by Anaconda.
[02:32] <ksft> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15663143/
[02:33] <wh3ko19> guideX: Did you try running 'sudo apt-get -f install'?
[02:33] <AphelionZ>  /home/REDACTED/.local/lib/python2.7/site-packages
[02:34] <rhorse_> guideX: is this a new install?
[02:34] <guideX> yeah
[02:34] <guideX> it's new
[02:34] <rhorse_> guideX: have you run apt-get update recently?
[02:34] <guideX> i've never ran it
[02:34] <rhorse_> that's why
[02:35] <guideX> ok running that
[02:35] <Jordan_U> ksft: Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get upgrade".
[02:35] <guideX> it ran, and then I ran the other command again, and I have the same problem with the dependencies
[02:36] <wh3ko19> Hm. This source seems identical to the posted one. That's very strange.
[02:36] <ksft> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15663157/
[02:37] <Jordan_U> ksft: Do you know why those packages are being kept back?
[02:37] <rhorse_> guideX: something is broken. Try running it with the -f option, like wh3ko19 suggested.
[02:37] <ksft> Jordan_U: no
[02:39] <FManTropyx> do apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:41] <guideX> huh
[02:41] <guideX> none of that stuff worked
[02:42] <rhorse_> guideX: I think you may be using eol version....
[02:42] <guideX> it seems like 14.04 is a bad build
[02:43] <Hydr0p0nX> 14.04 works great for me
[02:43] <wh3ko19> Yeah, always worked for me.
[02:43] <guideX> rhorse_: this is 14.04 I'm having this issue with
[02:43] <towlie> I used my VPN providers' bash script to install the network configurations for my VPN. When I go to VPN connections->configure VPN I see my VPN providers profiles but theyre not there under the VPM menu in the taskbar. How do I make them available to use ?
[02:44] <wh3ko19> Could be you have some weird thing going on with your permissions or some half-finished operation that screwed something up.
[02:44] <Hydr0p0nX> what's the output of uname -a  ?
[02:44] <rhorse_> guideX: try apt-get upgrade
[02:45] <EOBeav> 14.04 is awesome, I plan on running it even after xenial gets released.
[02:45] <towlie> does anyone know what to do
[02:45] <rhorse_> something is borked with his package management....
[02:45] <Gallomimia> test
[02:47] <rhorse_> Is there a way to reinstall the entire package cache from scratch?
[02:48] <wipeout> I've been working on getting my lte usb modem to bridge with the eth0 port on raspberry pi and have the eth0 port serve the public ip address of the lte modem out to my pfsense gateway as a fail over connection. I have a bridge setup currently that does get the class a public ip address from the lte modem but I am unable to get it to serve that to the ethernet conection. I just need some guidence if anyone has some.
[02:48] <Gallomimia> hey does anyone have any experience with an EDIMAX nano USB wifi N nic? i've got one and running 14.04 but the connectivity is horrible. any tips to improve?
[02:50] <Gallomimia> and if i could stay connected for just a moment or two i might hear the answer ;)
[02:51] <towlie> does anyone here use a VPN with ubuntu?
[02:51] <wipeout> ive used open vpn as a server and a client
[02:51] <guideX> http://pastebin.com/TcFVDUgA
[02:52] <wipeout> did you have a question about it
[02:52] <towlie> yes
[02:52] <wipeout> ?
[02:52] <towlie> I configured my VPN correctly but theres a profile for eaach VPN location. so i have a list of 30 different servers. is it possible to reorder them
[02:53] <guideX> so what do u think reinstall
[02:54] <wipeout> i need a bit more info than that. what exactly are you trying to do
[02:54] <towlie> i have a list of 30 VPNs under VPN connections
[02:54] <wipeout> are you using cli or gui
[02:54] <towlie> I dont really want so many servers listed there because I dont use most of them and most likely wont
[02:55] <towlie> gui
[02:55] <Jordan_U> ksft: Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[02:55] <Jordan_U> ksft: If it asks to remove anything, post the output before deciding to allow it to or not.
[02:55] <towlie> Jordan_U, I figured out how to add windows to the grub menu
[02:56] <wipeout> what type of von are you connecting to
[02:56] <Mitchell92> Hello... I'm a computer networking student - I've used Linux in the past, started when I was like 10 or something with Mandrake. Without detail of Linux experience details, I am looking to see if anyone has some suggestions for hardware requirements and the such... I'm looking to purchase a thin laptop computer to run Linux on, I was always a suse fan, I've used ubuntu plenty, I am going to
[02:56] <Mitchell92> load ubuntu on it due to the wide amount of support available and the popularity. I'm looking at 2-in-1 laptops on Amazon as they mostly have SSD's and they are very thin and small, as far as suggested specs can someone let me know what they think?
[02:56] <wipeout> *vpn
[02:56] <towlie> wipeout,  do you mean which one ?
[02:56] <wipeout> no i mean what type
[02:56] <towlie> i dunno
[02:56] <wipeout> ie openvpn, ipsec, pptp, etc
[02:56] <Jordan_U> towlie: What problem were you having and how did you solve it?
[02:56] <towlie> i think openvpn not sure
[02:57] <wipeout> it makes a differance as you can just write an easy bash script with a menu option as to which server you want to connect to
[02:57] <wipeout> how do you not know the vpn type your connecting to
[02:57] <towlie> Jordan_U, i Talked to you about adding Windows 10 to the grub menu.. I fixed it by changing BIOS to support both UEFI and MBR and set the ubuntu disk as the default disk and OS probler located windows after that so I can now dual boot with Ubuntu and Windows'
[02:57] <towlie> cause i dont
[02:58] <towlie> i know they support openvpn
[02:58] <wipeout> its kind of hard to help with limited info. did you get a config file with an rsa key in it?
[02:58] <towlie> but I ran a shell script and it did everything for me
[02:58] <wipeout> are you accessing a public vpn?
[02:59] <towlie> oh I just checked and it uses openVPN
[02:59] <towlie> no
[02:59] <towlie> its one I pay for
[02:59] <wipeout> okay are you comfertable with cli
[02:59] <towlie> yea
[03:00] <rhorse_> Mitchell92: 2GB ram.
[03:00] <wipeout> i would suggest looking at the manpage for openvpn in terminal and it will show you how to create connections via cli so that you can write the bash script and put the connections you want in the order you want
[03:00] <towlie> i dont need to
[03:00] <towlie> i have it set up in the GUI and it works perfectly
[03:03] <towlie> i guess ill just deal with it
[03:10] <towlie> wipeout, nm I figured out how to do what I wanted to do. I went into /etc/NetworkManager/myVPNProvider and moved all of the profiles except the ones that I want to show up in my VPN connection list to a sub directory
[03:11] <wipeout> okay, sorry I wasn't more help. I rearly use gui so I wasn't exactly sure what you were getting at. glad to see you got it worked out though
[03:11] <towlie> yea thanks
[03:12] <towlie> my vpn provider provides about 30 or so servers that you can connect to but I dont need tosee that many in the list of servers since I dont use most of them
[03:14] <nicomachus> PIA? they do that for me, too.
[03:15] <towlie> nicomachus,  i found an easy way to clean up the list of servers
[03:15] <towlie> brb
[03:15] <nicomachus> towlie: I've already done mine.
[03:15] <towlie> ok
[03:16] <nicomachus> I just change it manually in the connection settings whenever I want to switch servers.
[03:17] <towlie> my way is easier
[03:17] <towlie> do you use the GUI ?
[03:17] <nicomachus> rarely.
[03:17] <guideX> so I'm back, I had to go do something.. what else can I try? I've just installed ubuntu, and it seems like everything is asking me to install dependencies
[03:17] <guideX> for instance http://pastebin.com/HLAmAQzZ
[03:18] <guideX> ubuntu 14.04
[03:18] <nicomachus> guideX: any error messages during installation?
[03:18] <guideX> nope
[03:19] <nicomachus> guideX: are you on 32 or 64 bit?
[03:19] <nicomachus> (uname -m will tell you)
[03:19] <guideX> inux ENU44UBUNTU 4.2.0-27-generic #32~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 22 15:32:26 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:19] <guideX> guide
[03:19] <nicomachus> is this a fresh install?
[03:19] <guideX> yeah
[03:20] <nicomachus> I'd run it again.  Start over.
[03:21] <guideX> hrm ok
[03:22] <nicomachus> you can either fight the dependency black hole until you figure out what's up with apt (which could take hours/days) or just reinstall and try again (which takes 30 mins).
[03:23] <guideX> hrm ok, going to install again, but I'm doing everything exactly the same so probably the same will happen
[03:23] <nicomachus> double check the md5 on your .iso to make sure it's all good, check hardware with a memtest if you think that could be a concern, just start eliminating variables.
[03:23] <guideX> well I'm in a vm
[03:24] <guideX> but yeah I'll check
[03:24]  * nicomachus throws up hands
[03:24] <nicomachus> well you didn't mention that.
[03:25] <guideX> is it possible this is a bad build or
[03:25] <guideX> could be something in my vm software?
[03:25] <nicomachus> vbox or..?
[03:25] <guideX> vbox
[03:25] <nicomachus> what's the host OS?
[03:25] <guideX> windows 10
[03:26] <nicomachus> Vbox should be a simple install on that... did you set all the configurations right when setting up the VM?
[03:27] <guideX> well I picked Ubuntu from the list, and it configured the rest for me, except I choose 1024 ram and 30 gb hdd
[03:28] <guideX> well we'll see, maybe just borked install
[03:28] <OneM_Industries> Hey, so I have an odd issue. I have 3 new jump dives that I am attempting to use between multiple computers, but for some reason, I cannot change the permissions on the drive even with the computer/user that created the partitions on them.
[03:28] <Bima29900> Hello ubuntu
[03:29] <OneM_Industries> I select the permission that I want (Everyone can do anything with these drives) and it promptly switches right back to the default config.
[03:29] <Bima29900> Halah gak eroh🔚
[03:29] <nicomachus> guideX: every time I have set up an Ubuntu VM inside of Windows, I had to enable a few different options and install the Guest Additions .iso. I'm not sure if it's the same on 10 or not. But that shouldn't give you those dependency errors either.
[03:29] <Bima29900> Ngomong bol cah
[03:30] <nicomachus> Hi Bima29900. English please.
[03:30] <guideX> I did install the guest addons forgot about that
[03:30] <Bima29900> Hello
[03:30] <guideX> so I can get the better screen resolutions
[03:30] <Bima29900> Okay nicomachus
[03:30] <guideX> nothing started going wrong until I hit the terminal to install software, it seems like ubuntu just choose to not handle any dependencies
[03:31] <guideX> c ould be me, I don't know what I'm doing with linux so probably part of it
[03:31] <Bima29900> Hjs
[03:31] <nicomachus> guideX: well it sounds like apt didn't get set up correctly. sometimes that just happens with the installation, in my experience. doesn't hurt to try again.
[03:33] <OneM_Industries> Anyone have any ideas on what I might be doing wrong?
[03:34] <nicomachus> OneM_Industries: permissions aren't my forte, sorry.
[03:34] <OneM_Industries> Ok.
[03:41] <guideX> hmm now things are installing
[03:41] <guideX> I wonder what happened
[03:42] <nicomachus> buggy lil' bugs
[03:44] <OneM_Industries> Sigh..
[03:44] <OneM_Industries> Well, looks like I have 64GB of unusable storage then. Nice.
[03:45] <guideX> what does this mean "Could not open ...deb. The package might be corrupted or you are not allowed to open the file. Check the permissions of the file"
[03:46] <nicomachus> did you use sudo?
[03:46] <guideX> yeah
[03:47] <guideX> did sudo gdebi <deb>
[03:47] <nicomachus> what is gdebi?
[03:48] <guideX> hrm I'm not sure, I'm following some instructions to install teamviewer here http://www.geekssharingspace.org/2015/01/how-to-install-teamviewer-10-via-ppa-on.html
[03:48] <guideX> I guess it doesn't work
[03:48] <guideX> I guess gdebi installs deb files
[03:48] <guideX> or something
[03:48] <nicomachus> so does dpkg -i
[03:49] <guideX> requested operation requires superuser privelege
[03:49] <guideX> when I do dpkg
[03:50] <nicomachus> sudo dpkg -i PackageName.deb
[03:50] <guideX> yep
[03:50] <nicomachus> and it still says you need superuse privileges?
[03:51] <guideX> yeah
[03:52] <nicomachus> can you paste the output of: grep -Po '^sudo.+:\K.*$' /etc/group
[03:52] <guideX> hmm ok
[03:52] <guideX> when I do that, I just end up with >
[03:53] <nicomachus> it may take a moment.
[03:53] <guideX> it's like a prompt >
[03:53] <guideX> ok
[03:54] <guideX> idk, I don't think that worked
[03:54] <guideX> it's like I can type and hit enter and stuff, and another > comes up
[03:54] <nicomachus> ok, can you run: sudo apt-get update
[03:55] <guideX> hrm ok buncha stuff happening
[03:55] <nicomachus> but not permissions error?
[03:55] <guideX> nope
[03:55] <nicomachus> what is the location of that .deb file you're trying to install?
[03:55] <guideX> looks like /home
[03:56] <nicomachus> can you paste the output of: ls -l /
[03:57] <guideX> http://pastebin.com/GTyDMrCR
[03:58] <Rave1> guideX,  so if you where following that tutorial why didnt you just use gdebi as stated
[03:58] <nicomachus> he did
[03:58] <nicomachus> perms look ok.
[03:58] <guideX> Rave1: tried the gdebi command
[04:00] <Rave1> do you have 64 bit system?  are you sure you added the arch. properly first?
[04:00] <Rave1> gdebi isnt a command it is a GUI .deb installer
[04:00] <guideX> I don't understand the arch part, yes 64 bit vm
[04:01] <guideX> keep in mind I don't understand typical linux lingo, I'm terrible at all things linux
[04:01] <nicomachus> Rave1: that guide's a bit out of date, you don't need an arch anymore do you?
[04:01] <TJ-> arch = architure of the CPU and installed OS
[04:01] <TJ-> s/architure/architecture/
[04:01] <Rave1> for some packages you still need to add the arch.
[04:02] <nicomachus> TJ-! to the rescue.
[04:02] <TJ-> ta-da :)
[04:02] <Rave1> so I would suspect if that will not install it applies to that package
[04:03] <TJ-> I missed whatever the problem was; is their a pastebin reference?
[04:03] <TJ-> crikes, I need to wake up, spelling is all over the place s/their/there/
[04:03] <guideX> TJ-: I can't seem to figure out how to install teamviewer in ubuntu 14.04, having alot of problems
[04:03] <nicomachus> TJ-: goes back a bit. fresh install of 14.04 in vbox with W10 host, trying to install teamviewer but getting permissions issues.
[04:04] <TJ-> guideX: are you seeing a specific error?
[04:04] <TJ-> guideX: in these cases it's always best to use command-line package management in the terminal shell, since it gives us the opportunity to gather verbose and revealing debug info if necessary
[04:05] <guideX> http://pastebin.com/yB9hAHgh
[04:06] <Rave1> like I said gdebi isnt a command
[04:06] <guideX> oh ok
[04:07] <Rave1> right click on the .deb... open with gdebi  and follow the prompts
[04:07] <guideX> Rave1: so this tutorial isn't correct then http://www.geekssharingspace.org/2015/01/how-to-install-teamviewer-10-via-ppa-on.html
[04:07] <guideX> that's where I got the command
[04:07] <guideX> hrm ok
[04:07] <Rave1> or get someone to teach you the cli way
[04:08] <Rave1> the tutorial is fine you just didnt understand
[04:08] <guideX> but it says to put this "sudo gdebi teamviewer_linux.deb"
[04:08] <guideX> I mean, you just type it in the terminal right?
[04:08] <Rave1> it would be and should be  gksudo gdebi
[04:09] <nicomachus> still easier to just use sudo dpkg -i...
[04:10] <guideX> hrm, I still get an error in the gui package manager "this package might be corrupted ... check permissions..."
[04:10] <Rave1> guideX,  for the last time  just so you understand  Gdebi is a GUI installer tool
[04:10] <Rave1> and I need to go have fun
[04:11] <TJ-> guideX: do "apt-get install pastebinit", then do "pastebinit <( ls -l *.deb )" and give us the URL
[04:11] <Rave1> so re down load it    be sure you add the 32 bit arch and try again
[04:12] <guideX> hrm okl
[04:12] <TJ-> nicomachus: agreed, but I see an apparent typo in the filename so it could be a false error, which should be "file not found"
[04:12] <guideX> hrm unable to locate package..
[04:13] <guideX> pastebinit
[04:13] <Rave1> BTW   ppas are just trouble waiting to happen in the end    my opinion I know but just wait..
[04:13] <TJ-> guideX: really, oh well, never mind, instead do "ls -l *.deb | nc termbin.com 9999"
[04:14] <guideX> http://termbin.com/va3k
[04:14] <TJ-> !info pastebinit trusty | guideX: are you *sure* you're on Ubuntu?
[04:14] <guideX> yeah it's ubuntu 14.04
[04:15] <TJ-> guideX: that info tells us/you that pastebinit is a core part of the Ubuntu system, on 14.04
[04:15] <guideX> I just installed around 20 minutes ago
[04:15] <guideX> hrm, I'm not sure
[04:15]  * guideX doesn't know much about ubuntu
[04:16] <TJ-> guideX: strange. "apt-cache policy pastebinit" will report the available version(s) for a package, and their source
[04:16] <guideX> unable to locate package
[04:17] <TJ-> guideX: That suggests there is something very wrong on that install.
[04:17] <guideX> ah hrm ok
[04:17] <guideX> well could go for a third reinstall I guess
[04:18] <TJ-> guideX: what does "lsb_release -d" tell you?
[04:18] <TJ-> guideX: are you installing from an Ubuntu ISO image downloaded from ubuntu.com ?
[04:18] <guideX> Description: Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[04:18] <guideX> yeah
[04:18] <TJ-> guideX: does the virtual machine guest have network access?
[04:18] <guideX> yeah
[04:19] <TJ-> guideX: the problem could be the package management has not been able to fetch the package lists. Try "sudo apt-get update" to remedy that
[04:19] <guideX> hrm ok
[04:20] <guideX> hrm ok seems done, still no pastebin
[04:20] <TJ-> guideX: Ubuntu contains ~60,000 packages and 'apt' (Advanced Packaging Tool) is the Debian-derived archive package manager
[04:21] <TJ-> guideX: This is what roughly I'd expect you to see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15663845/
[04:21] <TJ-> guideX: in your case it'd be "Installed: (none)" though of course
[04:22] <TJ-> guideX: but you'll see on line 9 it gives the location where the package would be fetched from
[04:22] <guideX> I see that
[04:22] <guideX> on mine it's different I think
[04:22] <guideX> unable to locate package it says
[04:22] <TJ-> guideX: could you pastebin the output you see; it might be at the root of your other issues
[04:24] <guideX> http://pastebin.com/3gQ71ddG
[04:25] <TJ-> guideX: you have a typo! it ends 'it' not 'init' :) "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[04:25] <guideX> oh whoops :/ ok one second
[04:25] <TJ-> guideX: hehehe
[04:26] <guideX> ah ok pastebinIT installed
[04:26] <guideX> this is why I need teamviewer, can't copy paste through the vbox window lol
[04:27] <TJ-> guideX: as regards TeamViewer though, your termbin showing the directory listing for the .deb file shows it is 60733 bytes in size; I've just downloaded from the teamviewer web-site and the resulting file is 53MB! "-rw-rw-r-- 1 tj tj 53774306 Apr  7 05:25 teamviewer_11.0.57095_i386.deb"
[04:27] <guideX> oh hrm
[04:27] <guideX> let me try to download it again
[04:28] <guideX> hrm, I download again using wget, but it's the same size.. I'll try to download off their site
[04:29] <witeshark> i have some questions bout system76
[04:29] <TJ-> guideX: where *were* you downloading it from? It's never a good idea to use anything but the publishers trusted sites.
[04:30] <guideX> I was using the tutorial command wget download.teamviewer.com/download/teamviewer_i386.deb
[04:30] <guideX> http://www.geekssharingspace.org/2015/01/how-to-install-teamviewer-10-via-ppa-on.html
[04:31] <zanpks> ola
[04:31] <TJ-> guideX: right. Those are terrible and misleading instructions. Your download was actually the HTML file at the URL they give
[04:31] <guideX> ah makes sense
[04:32] <guideX> I didn't even look, I actually have no idea the .deb file is supposed to be, thoguht maybe it's a config file, or pointer or something
[04:32] <TJ-> guideX: I'm not impressed by TeamViewer; they do not publish the checksum/cryptographic hash of their downloadable files so you can verify they are uncorrupted, which is standard practice in the Linux world for pre-packaged binaries especially
[04:32] <guideX> I think it's going to work now lol
[04:33] <TJ-> guideX: yes, not installing HTML it should do :P
[04:33] <guideX> TJ-: hrm I'm not sure how it's supposed to work in ubuntu.. I didn't have any issues doign it in fedora, but then, I couldn't get discourse working in fedora so moving to ubuntu now
[04:33] <TJ-> guideX: FYI: teamviewer do provide some good command-line notes for installing on various GNU/Linux distros at https://www.teamviewer.com/en/help/363-How-do-I-install-TeamViewer-on-my-Linux-distribution.aspx#other
[04:33] <guideX> in fedora, it's a dnf install (if I recall)
[04:33] <guideX> ah ok cool
[04:33] <guideX> i'll check
[04:34] <zanpks> brasil
[04:34] <guideX> well thanks tj-, I think it's installing now.. yeah teamviewer should offer an easier to install method
[04:35] <guideX> I think it's ackward because, teamviewer cannot offer the source code, resulting in an ackward download experience in linux
[04:35] <guideX> download/install
[04:35] <TJ-> well, they *could* ... plenty of businesses do very well in the open source world :)
[04:35]  * guideX is much more used to windows installers to be honest, these package managers are a bit outside my realm
[04:36] <guideX> ok cool well I think it worked (teamviewer)
[04:36] <guideX> docker and discourse should be a breeze ...
[04:36] <TJ-> guideX: package management is the best thing - central trusted archives of curated software, with maintainers who ensure it meets all the policies and technical requirements of the distro, and everything cryptographically signed to ensure no tampering or corruption
[04:37] <witeshark> can anyone suggest what is typical with Unity/X GUI freeze and loss of control?
[04:38] <root> eheheheheh
[04:38] <TJ-> guideX: Even Microsoft has now added Linux syscall support so Ubuntu userspace, and bash shell, can be run on Windows. That is to appeal to serious sys-admins that hate trying to support and maintain systems via GUIs (very unprofessional, unscalable)
[04:41] <guideX> TJ-: I'm pretty excited to see the new linux subsystem.. maybe it'll be like the old nt4 subsystem
[04:42] <guideX> used to be there for unix support
[04:42] <guideX> wonder if they just like re-activated some old dormant code, likely not :)
[04:42] <TJ-> guideX: much better than the old SUS NT 4 layer; this is full binary compatibility (the executables are the same ones you'll ron on an Intel/AMD based Linux PC, not recompiled for Windows)
[04:43] <TJ-> s/ron/run/
[04:44] <TJ-> guideX: the new Windows Linux syscall compatibility layer means almost all Linux tools that use the GNU libc standard library will run (with some caveats for specialised tooling).
[04:45] <guideX> honestly I'm hopeing that they'll do something in .net to support building linux gui programs in windows, and then can be tested in windows, and distribute for linux
[04:45] <baizon> !offtopic
[04:45] <guideX> that'd be neat
[04:47] <TJ-> baizon: hardly off-topic, since Canonical/Ubuntu is making a big push to be *the* GNU userspace on Windows, and Microsoft have just released the functionality in build 14316 out to testers
[04:48] <Jordan_U> TJ-: It is still alpha/beta and not supported here as of today. Further discussion should go in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss.
[04:51] <guideX> well it's time for food, thanks again TJ- now I can finish my docker/discourse setup maybe tonight
[04:54] <guideX> is there some way to disable the animations?
[04:54] <guideX> they're really slow in vbox
[04:56] <baizon> guideX: you can install compizconfig-settings-manager and then disable them there
[04:58] <guideX> ok thanks
[04:59] <guideX> i'll try that
[05:16] <OneM_Industries> Right, so I am having an odd issue. I have a jumpdrive formatted to NTFS on ubuntu, that if I plug it into any other machine, then try to re-mount it, it will only mount read-only. Any ideas?
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: can you gksu nautilus and access the drive correctly?
[05:19] <OneM_Industries> Er, I ran that command, and it asked for my password then did nothing.
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: you have gksu installed?
[05:20] <OneM_Industries> Yes, I do.
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: got nautilus also?
[05:21] <OneM_Industries> Yep.
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: wich ubuntu version is this
[05:21] <OneM_Industries> 14.04.
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> weird
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: up to date to latest 14.04.4?
[05:22] <OneM_Industries> Well, I can go scripts> open as root instead, if you want.
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: no, gksu nautilus should work..
[05:23] <stacy-> can somebody here please help me with opencart acess..i am having problems loggin into my administrator page
[05:23] <OneM_Industries> Yes, it is up to date.
[05:23] <Jordan_U> OneM_Industries: Did you make sure to always unmount the drive properly before removing it?
[05:23] <OneM_Industries> Yes.
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: wich Os does the external hd contain, passworded? or just data?
[05:25] <OneM_Industries> Data.
[05:25] <OneM_Industries> No password.
[05:25] <OneM_Industries> Ok, looks like open as root worked...odd..
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: can you pastebin us the output of tail -f /var/log/syslog after you plug the hd?
[05:26] <stacy-> lotuspyschje.. can you please help on a login problem on opencart?
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> stacy-: sorry never used opencart myself
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> stacy-: where did you get this package
[05:27] <OneM_Industries> http://pastebin.com/RyWBpY5y
[05:28] <stacy-> lotspsychje.. its a cms
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: hmm, kernel: [1479353.708781] usb 8-3.2: USB disconnect, device number 46
[05:30] <kron> ok
[05:30] <kron> hi
[05:30] <kron> chat
[05:32] <stacy-> hi kron
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> stacy-: can this help? https://chubbable.com/how-to-install-opencart-2-0-on-ubuntu-14-vps
[05:49] <OneM_Industries> lotuspsychje: hey, any ideas on the case of the wonky flash drives?
[05:50] <torrey> hi
[05:50] <OneM_Industries> Hello!
[05:50] <torrey> nice to meet you!
[05:51] <OneM_Industries> Good to meet you too!
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: you could test few things out, create another user test from there, move the data to somwhere else and reformat it to ntfs with gparted,..
[05:55] <torrey> hi
[05:56] <somsip> torrey: do you have a support question?
[05:57] <torrey> No ; thanks  , I'm trying to use this
[06:00] <stacy-> after i type sudo in my ubuntu it its asking for auth username and password.. this has never happened before
[06:00] <stacy-> NV75S:~/Desktop/openvpnlist$ sudo openvpn --config client.ovpn
[06:00] <stacy-> Enter Auth Username:
[06:02] <Jordan_U> stacy-: That's openvpn asking you, not sudo.
[06:15] <maxvi> hi! I use cinnamon on ubuntu and try to change cursor theme, I changed it in themes, /usr/share..../index.theme, .icons/.../index.theme, and replace all DMZ-White to DMZ-Black via dconf-editor but when I run chromium I get DMZ-White cursor? What I need to change to fix this?
[06:21] <compaq_> hello everybody I am new here and I'd like to learn DB tools
[06:21] <compaq_> how can suggest me some books, tips, ...
[06:22] <ladyTalus> Only 3 weeks remaining.
[06:22] <ladyTalus> Ubuntu LTS 16 is coming very soon.
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> ladyTalus: join #ubuntu+1 plz :p
[06:23] <cansurfer2> Have a question about kernels for LTS 14.04.4  . I have one server that updated to 4.2.0-35 , and another nearly identical that stays at 4.2.0-34 for some reason. Been pulling my hair out trying to figure out why.
[06:24] <liqiuyuan> hello
[06:24] <Jordan_U> cansurfer2: Both using the same apt mirrors? Both have had "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" run recently?
[06:24] <liqiuyuan> 有人吗？
[06:24] <cansurfer2> Yep. I verified the sources.list and ran all of that.
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> !cn | liqiuyuan
[06:25] <shadow_itman> any one know how to get grub to play nicely with windows bootloader and bitlocker?
[06:25] <Jordan_U> shadow_itman: What problem are you having specifically?
[06:26] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U: I'm about to install ubuntu with LUKS and need to know how to configure the boot partition
[06:27] <shadow_itman> where to put it...
[06:27] <shadow_itman> probably making it harder than it needs to be
[06:27] <cansurfer2> Well. The one that was updated to -35 was using ca.archive.ubuntu.com. But when I edited the sources.list in the one stuck at -34 to match, still didn't upgrade kernel.
[06:27] <Seveas> shadow_itman: iirc bitlocker wants to use its own bootloader and your windows system will become unusable if you put grub there
[06:28] <shadow_itman> Seveas: then how would i boot into linux?
[06:28] <Seveas> if that is indeed true, best thing to do would be to use two separate physical harddrives, put ubuntu (and grub) on the second one, and choose your boot device in the bios
[06:29] <Seveas> shadow_itman: excellent question. No idea I'm afraid. Last time I touched a setup like that is about 8 years ago i think :)
[06:29] <shadow_itman> this seemed to have worked
[06:29] <shadow_itman> http://linuxtutorialscratchpad.blogspot.com/
[06:29] <shadow_itman> but it doesn't really explain why it works
[06:30] <shadow_itman> also this http://techblog.mastbroek.com/all-articles/dualboot-encrypted-windows-and-ubuntu/5/
[06:31] <MrPotato> hi.i deleted ubuntu's boot loader but still i have my ubuntu.what to do?i just have ubuntu mini
[06:31] <shadow_itman> that second one is with truecrypt though which has its own boot loader
[06:31] <Seveas> shadow_itman: the ubuntu part of that tutorial is heavily outdated. he gui installer supports lvm/luks these days
[06:32] <hateball> !fixgrub | MrPotato
[06:32] <shadow_itman> Seveas: ya but it doesn't let you use LUKS full disc if windows is already installed
[06:32] <shadow_itman> you have to create those encrypted luks volumes manually
[06:33] <MrPotato> hateball, after installing tinycore not windows
[06:37] <Jordan_U> shadow_itman: Do not use truecrypt.
[06:37] <shadow_itman> im not
[06:38] <shadow_itman> i tried veracrypt but had partition issues
[06:38] <shadow_itman> im using bitlocker
[06:38] <shadow_itman> for windows 10
[06:38] <shadow_itman> and luks for linux
[06:38] <shadow_itman> i'm just confused about how its going to boot
[06:39] <Jordan_U> shadow_itman: What are you confused about specifically? Is this a UEFI or BIOS based machine?
[06:39] <shadow_itman> bios
[06:39] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U:  bios
[06:40] <shadow_itman> i'm using 1 HDD
[06:40] <shadow_itman> trying to dual boot
[06:40] <shadow_itman> somehow the bitlocker bootloader needs to see linux
[06:40] <shadow_itman> and i need to have an option
[06:40] <shadow_itman> of which to boot into
[06:40] <Jordan_U> shadow_itman: No, grub just needs to be able to chainload Windows' bootloader.
[06:42] <cansurfer2> Might the kernel difference be because on the one server I upraded to 14.04.4 with sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-wily
[06:42] <cansurfer2> And on the other one, it was installed from a more recent CDROM ISO?
[06:42] <Jordan_U> shadow_itman: Windows normally has its actual bootloader in the pbr and embedding area in the filesystem of the "system" partition (not "C:") and what's in the MBR is just a simple "boot manager" that chainloads whatever primary partition is marked "active". I don't expect bitlocker to change any of that.
[06:43] <Redbeardt> If I have a 24gb SSD and a 256 gb SSD, what is my optimal partition configuration? :3
[06:43] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U:  thanks for explaining that.  this info is hard to come by in my searches!
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: ubuntu default partition will do fine
[06:45] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U: the documentation i'm following used UEFI so i'm not sure what that changes if anything
[06:45] <Redbeardt> When I tried installing, it wanted to put everything on the 256gb
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: use the 24gig for main boot Os and the 256 for data?
[06:45] <Redbeardt> so I figured it'd make more sense to use the 24gb as a swap... or something? I'm new to this
[06:45] <shadow_itman> in terms of where I put the linux /boot partition
[06:45] <ISJ>  ./home on the 256?
[06:46] <Redbeardt> Hmm ok :3
[06:46] <Redbeardt> I'm not sure about the importance of a sizeable swap partition with 8gbram
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: wich brand are the ssd's?
[06:47] <Redbeardt> The small one is a 'cache' SSD that came with the laptop and I have no idea what brand it is. The 256 one, I also don't know because I'm an idiot and forgot to ask the guys I got the laptop from to put in a specific quality brand.
[06:47] <Redbeardt> So it's probably something awful
[06:47] <Redbeardt> and I don't know the linux commands to check haha
[06:48] <hateball> Redbeardt: sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda
[06:48] <hateball> Redbeardt: or whatever device
[06:48] <Redbeardt> I'm running LiveCD atm.. Terminal sure is being lazy to start
[06:49] <Redbeardt> Ill type that in if it decides to pop up
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: sudo hdparm -i /dev/sda1
[06:51] <Redbeardt> ok so sda1 must be showing up as the usb drive im running livecd off
[06:52] <Redbeardt> since it shows 1tb
[06:52] <Redbeardt> I tried sdb and got TS256GSSD360S as the model number
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: might be a transcend
[06:52] <Redbeardt> thats the 256gb
[06:52] <Redbeardt> and this is the 24gb KINGSTON RBU-SMSM151S324GD
[06:53] <Redbeardt> .. is that good? ;D
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: ok well as your 24gig is rather small for data, i would go for main ubuntu Os on that one
[06:53] <Redbeardt> ok
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: and use the 256 for data, fast data exchange between both
[06:54] <Redbeardt> what's this about swap partitions though?
[06:54] <Redbeardt> does it matter?
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: swap will be created in ubuntu setup, default layout will do fine
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: after install you can tweak stuff, like swappiness to 10
[06:55] <Redbeardt> Is that only if I do the .. logical.. voluming.. option?
[06:55] <Redbeardt> during setup?
[06:55] <Redbeardt> It said that if I click that I can edit partitions freely later
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> !lvm | Redbeardt
[06:56] <Redbeardt> logical volume management eh
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: i dont use lvm myself
[06:57] <Redbeardt> I kind of don't want to either; seems like a level of abstraction I wouldn't need if I knew better what I was doing
[06:57] <shadow_itman> here goes nothing...
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> shadow_itman: re-ask your issue once in a while, all in one line..others might help
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: dont make it too hard on yourself, regular install does fine in most cases
[06:58] <Redbeardt> sure but.. I want to learn ;)
[06:59] <Redbeardt> The trouble I've been having with my wifi has been pretty educational in itself
[06:59] <Redbeardt> I'm a guy who has used windows for 20 years and this is my first major foray into linux
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: wich ubuntu version are you choosing to install?
[07:00] <Redbeardt> the latest LTS one
[07:00] <Redbeardt> 14.04 I thnk it was?
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: ok, in 2 weeks 16.04 comes out also if that might interest you
[07:00] <shadow_itman> i need grub to be able to chainload windows bootloader. both win10 and ubuntu are on the same HDD and both encrypted(not sure the relevance)
[07:00] <Redbeardt> oh
[07:01] <Redbeardt> People seemed to think it would be wise to use an LTS version
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: but you will be able to upgrade from 14.04 on april 21
[07:01] <Redbeardt> but I'm not sure how much I care hehe
[07:01] <Redbeardt> aha
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: thats the users choice, wich version you choose
[07:02] <Redbeardt> i havent really looked at the differences
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> !lts | Redbeardt
[07:02] <Redbeardt> although due to the trouble i've had with my wifi, maybe a later version would have been wise
[07:02] <Redbeardt> Trusty hehe
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: wich wifi chipset
[07:03] <shadow_itman> do i need to set the bootable flag 'on' for the /boot partition?
[07:03] <Redbeardt> Intel AC 7265
[07:04] <hateball> Redbeardt: yes, you'll want a newer kernel for that
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: that should work, its also advised to use cable internet + updates enabled during ubuntu setup
[07:04] <Redbeardt> yea I'm cabled now
[07:04] <Redbeardt> oh
[07:05] <Redbeardt> if you don't mind me asking, how'd you deduce that hateball?
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: perhaps 15.10 or 16.04 as hateball suggests
[07:05] <hateball> Redbeardt: I have the same chipset
[07:05] <hateball> well, 7260
[07:05] <Redbeardt> oh haha
[07:05] <hateball> Redbeardt: you can try a later kernel by "sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-xenial"
[07:06] <hateball> Redbeardt: that grabs the kernel from 16.04 (4.4) and you can choose between kernels in the grub menu at boot if need be
[07:07] <Redbeardt> but I wouldn't want to run that from the LiveCD yea?
[07:09] <Redbeardt> hmm the ubuntu setup said it failed to mount a filesystem on sda..
[07:09] <Redbeardt> weird
[07:09] <Redbeardt> I tried to installto sdc!
[07:10] <hateball> Redbeardt: No, you'd want to install a new kernel to an installed system
[07:10] <Redbeardt> ok
[07:10] <Redbeardt> thanks
[07:10] <hateball> It's not super useful installing it to RAM and then rebooting, see
[07:10] <Redbeardt> hahaha
[07:10] <Redbeardt> indeed
[07:14] <Redbeardt> I'm installing! :O
[07:14] <Redbeardt> Praise the Sun!
[07:15] <styles> I recently installed Ubuntu 15.10 and am using the fglrx-updates driver with microcode firmware for AMD CPUs. I'm having an issue where Chrome and other apps that render via a GPU seem to be bugging out. Games never have issues though.
[07:17] <Redbeardt> Installer taking its sweet time partitioning D:
[07:22] <Zaitzev> Hi guys. How do I use xrandr to change the refresh rate of just one or two monitors (DVI), when I'm on a 3 monitor setup? xrandr output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15664692/
[07:25] <Light_> How is the beta looking is it looking like the LTS release will be good or bad?
[07:25] <guideX> I have this weird problem, I guess it's not that important, but I turned on auto hide for the ubuntu start menu, and it's gone
[07:25] <guideX> it doesn't come up if I move my mouse over where it used to be
[07:26] <YOYO9876> Hi all
[07:26] <soliman> hi
[07:26] <guideX> so now I just can't get to anything
[07:26] <soliman> what about you
[07:26] <Zaitzev> guideX: It's not gone, just "press" your mouse toward the edge
[07:26] <YOYO9876> (soliman glad to see U ;)
[07:26] <Redbeardt> i think my installer is unhappy. It has been partitioning a 24gb drive for 10 minutes
[07:26] <guideX> Zaitzen: I mean, I move my mouse over there but the thing doesn't come up
[07:26] <guideX> the thing with the icons
[07:27] <guideX> on the left
[07:27] <Zaitzev> guideX: I've noticed the same weird behavior when I tried it, but by moving and "pressing" the mouse to the edge it shows up. You'll see a small shadow when you move it
[07:28] <guideX> I wonder if it's something more wrong, i'll try to take a screenshot to describe what I'm seeing
[07:29] <Zaitzev> guideX: When I move the mouse to the edge, I see a shade. I keep pushing the mouse into the edge and the shade darkens, and finally it opens the launcher. This sensitivity can be tweaked in Appearance settings.
[07:29] <hateball> !ubuntu+1 | Light_
[07:30] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U: so when the installer asks me where to install grub.... any idea where i should tell it?
[07:30] <Zaitzev> guideX: From "you gotta push hard" Low, to "barely touching the edge" High
[07:30] <shadow_itman> to be chainloaded behind bitlocker?
[07:32] <guideX> http://skywirenews.com/ubuntuglitch.jpg
[07:32] <guideX> if I hit the windows key that's all that comes up
[07:32] <guideX> then I can type like terminal and there's no results
[07:32] <guideX> something screwed up eh?
[07:33] <Zaitzev> Yeah the launcher doesn't open when you press the Windows key
[07:34] <guideX> like check this out http://skywirenews.com/ubuntuglitch2.jpg
[07:34] <guideX> the terminal doesn't even come up
[07:36] <Zaitzev> What you have open is a command dash thing (?) that I never use, and it is supposed to open by pressing the Alt key
[07:36] <guideX> when I hit alt the same thing comes up
[07:36] <Zaitzev> The Windows key is supposed to open the Unity search window thingamajig (I'm confused by the naming of these various bits) :p
[07:37] <Zaitzev> but you're on a VM, might be that it doesn't send the correct key from the host then
[07:37] <Zaitzev> nvm, Teamviewer is it?
[07:37] <guideX> yeah I'm using team viewer
[07:37] <Light_> Is it just me or does 12.04 work better then 14.04?
[07:38] <somsip> Light_: what does "better" mean to you?
[07:38] <Light_> less buggy
[07:38] <guideX> I was really fond of 8.04 if we wanna talk about old versions
[07:38] <Zaitzev> guideX: It might be that teamviewer doesn't send the keys correctly, try looking in settings after something like "Send key combinations" or similar
[07:38] <somsip> Light_: just you
[07:38] <guideX> Zaitzev: ah ok let me try that
[07:38] <somsip> Light_: be specific if you have a support issue. Maybe it's a known thing
[07:39] <Light_> well transmission didn't seem to work with 14.04 like it did seamlessly in 12.04
[07:40] <guideX> is there like a run command in ubuntu I can get to
[07:40] <Zaitzev> I run transmission totally fine on my 14.04 laptop
[07:40] <Light_> guideX, yes I heard good things about that release
[07:40] <Zaitzev> guideX: what do you mean?
[07:40] <Zaitzev> guideX: Try pressing Ctrl+Alt+T to open a terminal
[07:40] <guideX> ah ok that works
[07:40] <guideX> whew...
[07:41] <guideX> so maybe I can turn off the auto hide setting somewhere from the terminal
[07:41] <somsip> Light_: you have one app that you have a problem with and you draw the conclusion that the whole release is buggy :-/ I'm using trasmission on 14.04 with no problems, so what is the specific bug
[07:41] <guideX> to get back the thing on the left
[07:42] <Light_> I forget but I went back to 12.04
[07:42] <guideX> anywhere I can vi or gedit my way to turning the autohide off
[07:42] <Zaitzev> guideX: what Ubuntu version is it?
[07:42] <somsip> Light_: so what is your aim in coming here?
[07:42] <Light_> actually seems like ubuntu starting to go bad when the switch to unity happened
[07:42] <guideX> Zaitzev: 14.04
[07:42] <Zaitzev> guideX: Type in terminal: unity-control-center
[07:43] <somsip> Light_: if you're after a general chat, or complain, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic. This is for support only
[07:43] <Zaitzev> guideX: Then go to Appearance and the Behavior tab
[07:43] <Light_> somsip I'm interested in the new LTS release but no one is in there
[07:43] <guideX> Zaitzev: thanks
[07:44] <guideX> annnd it's back...
[07:44] <guideX> woa man someone should fix that lol
[07:44] <Holland> 这是什么？？
[07:44] <guideX> it's scary to loose the icons thingy on the left
[07:44] <Holland> lol？？？
[07:45] <somsip> !zh | Holland
[07:59] <n-iCe> !pastebin
[07:59] <n-iCe> Hello, can anyone help me please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/15664938/
[07:59] <n-iCe> It happens when I try to use my laptop volume slide/touchpad in the keyboard.
[08:00] <EriC^^> n-iCe: try sudo modprobe psmouse resync_time=10
[08:01] <BusyElf> Hello ?? I have a problem.  and no it's not personal.. re Ubuntu Server
[08:01] <somsip> !help | BusyElf
[08:01] <n-iCe> EriC^^, done, now?
[08:02] <BusyElf> Ok I have a programme running in Ubuntu, and for some reason it shuts down at 02:32 -ish every night..  ther's nothing in crontab to make it do so. .. any ideas?
[08:03] <n-iCe> EriC^^, keeps happening, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15664967/
[08:03] <somsip> BusyElf: check /var/log/syslog
[08:03] <EriC^^> n-iCe: try sudo modprobe -r psmouse , then sudo modprobe psmouse
[08:04] <BusyElf> ermm it's a headless server.
[08:04] <somsip> BusyElf: why should that make a difference?
[08:04] <BusyElf> no psmouse connected
[08:04] <n-iCe> EriC^^, [  593.849891] input: PS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input599
[08:05] <somsip> BusyElf: why do you need a mouse? How do you normaly admin this server?
[08:05] <n-iCe> EriC^^, and is not happening anymore!
[08:05] <BusyElf> SSH into it
[08:05] <n-iCe> EriC^^, is this permanent?!
[08:06] <somsip> BusyElf: so, SSH into it. Why is the mouse an issue?
[08:06] <brsc2909_> d
[08:06] <EriC^^> n-iCe: i dont think so
[08:06] <Jordan_U> shadow_itman: Install grub's boot sector to the mbr, so that grub can chainload Windows' bootloader.
[08:07] <BusyElf> ok forget the mouse, still have the problem
[08:07] <somsip> BusyElf: my recommendation to check syslog still stands
[08:08] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U: wow, i was going to follow the directions and install it to the /boot partition that i created
[08:08] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U:  what will the /boot parition do if i dont install grub to it?> just sit there?
[08:08] <BusyElf> I've checked the programme logs. there's nothing to suggest it was ordered to shut down.
[08:09] <somsip> BusyElf: what do you mean by "programme logs". Have you checked system logs? Which ones?
[08:09] <TAFB2> "Your window manager does not support the show desktop button or you are not running a window manager". I'm missing the buttons along the top of gnome or whatever. It's Ubuntu VPS server. I'm using tightvnc :) Any help?
[08:09] <Jordan_U> shadow_itman: If you have a TPM though, you may need to keep Windows' MBR code intact.
[08:09] <n-iCe> EriC^^, look
[08:09] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U:  this is what im following http://techblog.mastbroek.com/all-articles/dualboot-encrypted-windows-and-ubuntu/5/
[08:09] <n-iCe> EriC^^, synclient TouchpadOff=1;
[08:09] <BusyElf> the only thing I can think of that might have some impact is a backup from another server onto the affected one.
[08:09] <n-iCe> seems to fix it too
[08:10] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U: i'm not using TPM but the client i'm doing this for next week likely will be
[08:10] <somsip> BusyElf: sometimes best not to think, but to try to establish facts. But you seem to be ignoring me, so best of luck and I'm out
[08:10] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U:  it would be nice to be prepared for both scenerios
[08:10] <BusyElf> Fine!
[08:10] <BusyElf> me too
[08:11] <EriC^^> n-iCe: yes, i read =0 makes it turn on
[08:11] <EriC^^> n-iCe: https://chakraos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=10119&p=2
[08:11] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U: if i install grub to the wrong place? can i make changes using bcdedit  or another utility later to fix the issue?
[08:11] <shadow_itman> this command line install just took SO long. i would hate to have to do it again
[08:12] <BlueProtoman> Help!  I can't log in graphically!  It's just a blank screen; I *am* able to log in via a TTY, though (I'm writing this on irssi).  I'm on Ubuntu 15.10.  What do I do?
[08:13] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U:  the grub prompt says "The following operating systems have been detected on this computer: Windows vista(loader)
[08:13] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U:  if all of your operating systems are listed above, then it should be safe to install the boot loader to the master boot record of your first drive
[08:13] <shadow_itman> install the grub boot loader to the master boot record?
[08:13] <Jordan_U> shadow_itman: If you don't have a TPM, or aren't using it, then it's all relatively easy to fix (if you know how). I haven't dealt with TPMs enough and I don't know what the best course of action is for that.
[08:13] <n-iCe> EriC^^, rmmod psmouse && modprobe psmouse , is ok?
[08:14] <EriC^^> BlueProtoman: does the guest account work?
[08:14] <EriC^^> n-iCe: yeah, modprobe -r psmouse && modprobe psmouse is better though
[08:14] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U:  can you hang tight while i install it to the MBR?
[08:15] <shadow_itman> if it breaks i need to know how to fix it.  would be greatly appreciated. im pretty desperate
[08:15] <EriC^^> n-iCe: maybe you can make a script for it and use xbindkeys to make a shortcut on the keyboard for it
[08:15] <n-iCe> done EriC^^
[08:15] <n-iCe> EriC^^, no no I don't care about make it work at all, the problem is it created some issues in the muse cursos
[08:15] <n-iCe> rebooting
[08:15] <n-iCe> thanks
[08:15] <EriC^^> ok
[08:16] <Jordan_U> shadow_itman: I'll be here for 20 minutes.
[08:17] <shadow_itman> welp here it goes
[08:17] <dr_feelgood> Just left the bar, about to start drinking.. funny thing is, no matter how many idiot or how intelligent I may get, I'm still always understood.
[08:17] <dr_feelgood> Also, if you can't feel compliance, it didn't happen.
[08:17] <dr_feelgood> ~ Hunter
[08:18] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U:  'missing operating system'
[08:18] <shadow_itman> yikes
[08:18] <n-iCe> EriC^^, did not work
[08:18] <n-iCe> EriC^^, did not work
[08:18] <EriC^^> what do you mean?
[08:19] <n-iCe> EriC^^, if I press the bar, the problems are still there
[08:19] <n-iCe> maybe was not executed at boot?
[08:19] <n-iCe> I added what you said to rc.local
 maybe was not executed at boot?
 I added what you said to rc.local
[08:19] <EriC^^> it's just for 1 time
[08:19] <EriC^^> oh, that's in the thread
[08:19] <n-iCe> yeah, but that one time, makes it work till I reboot
[08:19] <Jordan_U> shadow_itman: Please boot from an Ubuntu liveCD/USB (not the server/minimal installer), run https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[08:20] <EriC^^> n-iCe: i'd do it another way without rc.local
[08:20] <n-iCe> EriC^^, ok
[08:20] <EriC^^> let me get some coffee and i'll brb
[08:22] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U: ok
[08:26] <chopper> hi
[08:27] <n-iCe> EriC^^, ok I think I got it, gonna reboot
[08:27] <n-iCe> brb
[08:27] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U: sorry its taking so long... the usb drive is almost ready
[08:30] <n-iCe> EriC^^, nothing, is not working
[08:30] <EriC^^> ok
[08:31] <n-iCe> EriC^^, what I think I have to do, is to make a script, that run after few seconds of login, and another to run the second command more few seconds later
[08:31] <n-iCe> EriC^^, what do you think?
[08:31] <EriC^^> n-iCe: yes sounds good
[08:32] <n-iCe> where would you add them?
[08:32] <EriC^^> i guess after x logs in
[08:32] <EriC^^> there's the ~/.config/autostart
[08:33] <Kartagis> ikonia: do you remember that you asked me yesterday if grub detects hfs filesystems?
[08:33] <n-iCe> cd ~/.config/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart
[08:33] <EriC^^> you need to add modprobe to sudoers with NOPASSWD so the script can run
[08:33] <n-iCe> ooh
[08:33] <n-iCe> maybe that's my error?
[08:33] <EriC^^> could be
[08:33] <n-iCe> EriC^^, %wheel ALL=/sbin/modprobe NOPASSWD: ALL
[08:34] <Kartagis> grub doesn't recognise my MacOS installation on another HDD. what to do?
[08:34] <EriC^^> %wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /sbin/modprobe
[08:34] <EriC^^> wait, why wheel?
[08:34] <Kartagis> s/wheel/sudo,
[08:34] <Kartagis> s/wheel/sudo
[08:34] <EriC^^> yes use sudo
[08:35] <n-iCe> %sudo ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /sbin/modprob
[08:35] <n-iCe> sounds good to you?
[08:36] <Kartagis> except, it is modprobe, not modprob
[08:36] <n-iCe> Kartagis, done, thanks.
[08:36] <Kartagis> np
[08:36] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: Hackintosh or legitimate Apple hardware?
[08:37] <Kartagis> Jordan_U: hackintosh
[08:37] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: Then I can't help you.
[08:37] <Kartagis> Jordan_U: I have another at home, and it is recognised by grub
[08:37] <Kartagis> Jordan_U: moral issues or you don't know?
[08:38] <Kartagis> just asking, not judging
[08:38] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: I don't know and this channel doesn't support hackintosh.
[08:38] <n-iCe> EriC^^, and now
[08:38] <EriC^^> n-iCe: try to run the script manually from the terminal
[08:38] <Kartagis> I'm asking about grubi not hackintosh
[08:38] <EriC^^> type sudo -k , then try it
[08:39] <n-iCe> EriC^^, ok, no errors, let me reboot
[08:40] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U: when i try to run the script it tells me to install a new version of mawk
[08:40] <shadow_itman> wow
[08:41] <n-iCe> ok EriC^^ ok, it ran
[08:41] <Jordan_U> shadow_itman: I think you can just install gawk instead.
[08:41] <n-iCe> EriC^^, but, the mouse stopped to work, was not enabled it back
[08:41] <EriC^^> n-iCe: nice
[08:42] <EriC^^> n-iCe: it was in ~/.config/autostart?
[08:42] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U: that worked
[08:42] <shadow_itman> making pastebin now
[08:43] <n-iCe> oh my bad
[08:43] <Light_> Can rythmbox play .m4a files?
[08:46] <n-iCe> EriC^^, thanks, working great now :)
[08:46] <n-iCe> No more issues with that volume panel, that's great, thanks EriC^^
[08:46] <EriC^^> great :) no problem
[08:46] <shadow_ITMANN> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15665309/
[08:46] <shadow_ITMANN> Jordan_U:  that isn't complete... dangit
[08:46] <Kartagis> who can help me with grub not recognising MacOS?
[08:46] <Redbeardt> Anyone know why Ubuntu installer would be saying this "The attempt to mount a file system with type vfat in SCSI3 (0,0,0), partition #1 (sda) at /boot/efi failed."
[08:46] <Redbeardt> ?
[08:47] <shadow_ITMANN> Jordan_U:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/15665332/
[08:47] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U:  that is complete... sorry man
[08:48] <syahdeini> 1st  time using IRC
[08:48] <n-iCe> syahdeini, welcome
[08:48] <Jordan_U> shadow_itman: It looks like you didn't actually have the installer install grub to the mbr.
[08:49] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U: it may appear that way but thats the option i selected
[08:49] <Bonn333> syahdeini: Welcome to ubuntu IRC channel ;)
[08:49] <shadow_itman> during config i did make a /boot partition that included the 'boot flag'
[08:49] <shadow_itman> not sure if that matters
[08:49] <sybariten> Hello, i have this issue which i don't know at all how to attack. I have a script or program that is supposed to show a "splash screen" in ascii when i ssh into my machine, and show some general info about the machine. It's called Screenfetch. That script is now somehow broken, so that it shows a lot of "/usr/bin/screenfetch: line 4157: 3: Bad file descriptor" whenever i log into the machine....
[08:50] <Jordan_U> shadow_itman: And it also looks like you changed the "active" flag so that sda3 is active instead of sda2.
[08:50] <sybariten> any ideas what to look at first? I cant even remember how i installed it... (whether its apt-get or manually)
[08:50] <EriC^^> !info screenfetch
[08:50] <EriC^^> sybariten: try apt-cache policy screenfetch
[08:51] <Jordan_U> shadow_itman: Did you change the "active" (sometimes called "boot") flag in your partition table?
[08:51] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U:  yes, when i created the /boot partition gave it the 'boot flag'
[08:52] <Jordan_U> shadow_itman: That is why you currently can't boot.
[08:52] <sybariten> EriC^^: thanks.. i get a little list. it says "Installed: 3.7.0-1~trusty"
[08:52] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U:  any recourse for this?
[08:52] <EriC^^> sybariten: ok, maybe it's a known bug?
[08:53] <sybariten> EriC^^: hmmm maybe? What did we check with the policy command?
[08:53] <Jordan_U> shadow_itman: If you change the "boot flag" back to sda2, then Windows will boot. Or you can install grub and you'll be able to boot both OSs.
[08:54] <EriC^^> sybariten: if it's installed via apt-get
[08:54] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U:  how can i change the boot flag back to sda 2? and/or install grub
[08:54] <sybariten> ok. Good, we got that sorted out then. I think i'll try and apt-get remove it, apt-get update and apt-get install it just for the sake of it and see what happens
[08:54] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U:  sorry man, i'm a noob and i have a crazy deadline for this to be working at noon tomorrow
[08:55] <Jordan_U> shadow_itman: To install grub: "sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/ && sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda".
[08:57] <shadow_itman> said installation finished. no error reported
[08:57] <shadow_itman> i guess i will try to reboot?
[08:57] <Jordan_U> shadow_itman: Great. Reboot.
[08:58] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U: it gives me grub menu instead of Windows... i thought bitlocker would require windows loader?
[09:00] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U: it works nonetheless... thanks for sticking around and helping me man!
[09:00] <shadow_itman> i can work out the kinks tomorrow if needed
[09:00] <shadow_itman> you the man!
[09:00] <Jordan_U> shadow_itman: Your Ubuntu installation isn't within the bitlocker encryption. "Full disk" encryption is usually a misnomer, and it's just a single partition that is encrypted.
[09:01] <Jordan_U> shadow_itman: You're welcome.
[09:01] <shadow_itman> Jordan_U:  would it have been possible to use the windows boot menu and have windows be the default after time expires?
[09:02] <Jordan_U> shadow_itman: Yes, but it's a much more difficult and fragile configuration. Instead you should just make Windows the default grub entry if you want to boot Windows by default.
[09:03] <EriC^^> windows can chainload grub in legacy mode?
[09:03] <EriC^^> or that effect can be achieved from the windows bootloader?
[09:03] <Jordan_U> EriC^^: Yes, but please forget that I ever told you that because it's a terrible idea.
[09:03] <EriC^^> lol :D
[09:06] <sybariten> reinstalling screenfetch via apt-get...
[09:08] <sudishth> Client error: `HEAD<EMAIL_ADDRESS>resulted in a `404 Not Found` response:
[09:17] <sgbirch> Where is the best place to get a docker container with ubuntu 16.04? ubuntu:16.04 has no networking installed
[09:18] <Ben64> sgbirch: 16.04 isn't out yet, try asking in #ubuntu+1
[09:18] <sgbirch> ok .. thank you
[09:37] <Elon_MuSk> Can I use ubuntu from a usb drive. Without files being deleted after shutdown?
[09:38] <aotea> Been trying in ubuntu-server but guess I'll throw it here also; so I'm trying to implement key-based ssh login to my server, created key pair, added pubkey to authorized_keys on server, last auth.log shows "public key was accepted" but soon I set "PasswordAuthentication no" in sshd_config it stops accepting my public key and ofc won't prompt for password either.
[09:38] <aotea> Elon_MuSk: yes, given enough space on the stick it is possible
[09:39] <Elon_MuSk> aotea: how? Install on usb drive. Boot with usb drive. But when I reboot files are gone
[09:39] <aotea> Elon_MuSk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[09:40] <Elon_MuSk> aotea: ok thanx
[09:42] <mike_papa> What's a correct way to install own, private package providing files from official one? In my case it's qemu. Official repo has 2.3, and I need 2.5. So I followed very nice article (http://www.atrixnet.com/compile-qemu-from-source-and-make-a-debian-package-with-checkinstall/#comment-23813) and created own qemu package. But if I install it, I have two qemu-system-x86_64 for example (in /usr/bin - official 2.3, and /usr/local/bin)
[09:43] <bittin-> Ubuntu and Debian isos updated at work :)
[09:44] <mike_papa> If I remove qemu-system package providing /usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64 I'll need to remove much more in dependencies then my package provides.
[09:46] <bittin-> now waiting for the 16.04 isos :)
[09:49] <BlueProtoman> Help!  I can't boot X!  The login screen doesn't appear, though I'm able to log in via tty (I'm writing this via irssi).  I'm running Ubuntu 15.10 with a nVidia GeForce 520M/Intel HD 5000 combo via Optimus.  What do I do?
[09:49] <n-iCe> BlueProtoman, live cd?
[09:50] <BlueProtoman> n-iCe: No.
[09:50] <n-iCe> BlueProtoman, you installed it already? with no gui?
[09:50] <BlueProtoman> n-iCe: Existing installation.  I've had it installed for quite some time, though I just recently broke something.
[09:50] <daedric> BlueProtoman: when I had this kind of problems it was always because of something with nvidia drivers, I'd suggest to remove everything nvidia related and try with the nouveau drivers
[09:50] <n-iCe> BlueProtoman, ah, I thought that.
[09:50] <BlueProtoman> daedric: Out of the question.  My nVidia drivers were working yesterday, and I need them.
[09:51] <daedric> BlueProtoman: you can reinstall them later
[09:51] <n-iCe> BlueProtoman, reinstall
[09:51] <daedric> anyway without X it is not like they are useful
[09:51] <BlueProtoman> But I had it working yesterday!  And in fact, I had it working an hour ago, then got bold and decided to try nvidia-361...and then wound up having to come back here.
[09:52] <n-iCe> BlueProtoman, you rebooted, right
[09:52] <BlueProtoman> n-iCe: Yes, of course
[09:52] <daedric> BlueProtoman: ... and you really think that it is not related to your upgrade ?
[09:52] <daedric> do whatever you want.
[09:52] <n-iCe> gonna be hard
[09:53] <BlueProtoman> daedric: I uninstalled 361 and reinstalled 358, but that didn't work either
[09:53] <n-iCe> BlueProtoman, check nvidia-current
[09:54] <BlueProtoman> n-iCe: 304?
[09:54] <daedric> BlueProtoman: I never got it right when I install the nvidia via the CLI, I prefer to use the gui and the additional driver.   The drivers I tried, but I'm not in the mood to reinstall my whole OS again so not happening
[09:59] <daedric> me I stands for falling back on nouveau and then reinstalling nvidia via the ubuntu GUI, however maybe you can try to remove the nvidia section in the xorg.conf or use the nvidia-xconfig
[10:00] <daedric> I'd also be sure to use the nvidia-current
[10:00] <BlueProtoman> daedric: nvidia-current is OLD.  304, but I was using 358 yesterday.
[10:00] <daedric> why do you care ?
[10:01] <BlueProtoman> I'm working on a graphics project, I need a recent version of OpenGL
[10:01] <daedric> BlueProtoman: why don't you want to repair your computer and update AFTER
[10:01] <BlueProtoman> Fine, fine, I'll do that.
[10:01] <BlueProtoman> What's the nouveau package?
[10:01] <daedric> you can try nvidia-xconfig
[10:02] <daedric> there is a tool to generate a xorg.conf IIRC
[10:02] <BlueProtoman> OK, but what is the name of the nouveau package?
[10:02] <BlueProtoman> So I can get to that point?
[10:03] <daedric> if nvidia-xconfig does not work, the novueau package is: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[10:03] <Ben64> BlueProtoman: you said you installed a newer nvidia, how did you do that
[10:03] <BlueProtoman> Ben64: With a PPA
[10:03] <Ben64> which
[10:04] <BlueProtoman> ppa:graphics-drivers, I think it's called
[10:04] <Ben64> ok thats a good one
[10:04] <BlueProtoman> Let me reboot and see for myself
[10:06] <BlueProtoman> No luck.
[10:06] <lerner> I scanned some documents into a sub stick and ported them to my craptop. My craptop's HDD started making noises associated with a faulty hdd. I rebooted but this time, strangely, I didnt have to use a liveusb to restore my system and set a nonblocking pool: the recovery journal did that for me... My question is: does time play a part in the launching of the recovery journal?
[10:06] <Ben64> BlueProtoman: you should make sure that the driver actually got built
[10:06] <BlueProtoman> Sorry, what was the name of the package?  No scrollback in irssi
[10:06] <BlueProtoman> Ben64: And how can I do that?
[10:06] <lerner> should I , next time my hdd start clacking, automatically turn it off so the journal self recovers?
[10:07] <lerner> 15.10 64 bits
[10:07] <l0ll1p0p> BlueProtoman: use pgup and pgdown
[10:07] <daedric> BlueProtoman: nvidia-xonfig did not work ?
[10:07] <BlueProtoman> l0ll1p0p: Not between sessions
[10:07] <TJ-> BlueProtoman: check /var/log/X0rg.0.log for errors, if none there, try $HOME/.xsession-errors
[10:07] <BlueProtoman> daedric: It did not
[10:07] <Ben64> BlueProtoman: find /var/lib/dkms | grep ko$
[10:08] <TJ-> Ben64: BlueProtoman "dkms status" will report which modules/versions/kernels are installed for
[10:08] <Ben64> TJ-: neat!
[10:08] <TJ-> Ben64: thank frank for man :p
[10:09] <BlueProtoman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15666435/
[10:09] <BlueProtoman> My dkms status
[10:10] <k1l_> BlueProtoman: do you use bumblebee?
[10:10] <BlueProtoman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15666456/
[10:10] <BlueProtoman> k1l_: No, I use nvidia's equivalent
[10:10] <daedric> BlueProtoman: you can try to mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf{,.back}
[10:10] <BlueProtoman> ^ My Xorg.0.log
[10:10] <daedric> and startx again (no reboot)
[10:10] <k1l_> BlueProtoman: but bbswitch is bumblebee
[10:10] <Ben64> no startx
[10:11] <BlueProtoman> k1l_: Then either I guess I do use it or it's still lying around from when I did.
[10:11] <Ben64> k1l_: i have bbswitch on my system. single gpu setup
[10:11] <k1l_> BlueProtoman: and bumblebee is deprecated. ubuntu uses the official "nvidia-prime" since some tome
[10:13] <k1l_> BlueProtoman: ok, seems like nvidia-prime is still depending on bbswitch
 BlueProtoman: ok, seems like nvidia-prime is still depending on bbswitch
[10:14] <BlueProtoman> startx didn't work.  Well, it displayed a cursor and let me move it around a blank screen, but nothing else happened.
[10:14] <k1l_> dont use startx. start the lightdm
[10:14] <BlueProtoman> startx + deleting my existing xorg.conf
[10:15] <Cablegunmaster> after encrypting my home folder, how do I repair my hibernate? :)
[10:15] <daedric> BlueProtoman: yeah it was my mistake (the startx) k1l_ is right
[10:15] <BlueProtoman> k1l_: sddm for Kubuntu, right?
[10:15] <Redbeardt> I just installed an Nvidia driver and rebooted and now I boot into black screen. :(
[10:15] <Cablegunmaster> It said : "This will break your hibernate "  Note:"This will not break your hibernate / sleep"
[10:15] <TJ-> BlueProtoman: what does "uname -r" report ?
[10:15] <k1l_> BlueProtoman: depends on what ubuntu version
[10:17] <BlueProtoman> TJ-: 4.2.0-35-generic
[10:17] <BlueProtoman> k1l_: Kubuntu 15.10
[10:17] <k1l_> BlueProtoman: then its ssdm
[10:17] <TJ-> BlueProtoman: good, that confirms the same kernel version is running as the module is installed for.
[10:17] <BlueProtoman> Should I run sddm with sudo?
[10:17] <Kartagis> why isn't grub recongnising MacOS on another HDD?
[10:18] <TJ-> bleepy: try starting the gUI with "sudo systemctl start sddm.service"
[10:18] <k1l_> BlueProtoman: stop starting stuff yourself. use the init system.
[10:18] <Kartagis> recognising*
[10:18] <BlueProtoman> k1l_: OK, how?
[10:18] <daedric> BlueProtoman: it should be a service, so /etc/init.d/sddm restart
[10:18] <k1l_> BlueProtoman: "sudo systemctl start sddm"
[10:19] <BlueProtoman> k1l_: Nothing.  No error, but no output either.
[10:19] <daedric> BlueProtoman: reupload you Xorg.log
[10:20] <BlueProtoman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15666584/
[10:20] <BlueProtoman> Ask and you shall receive
[10:20] <k1l_> BlueProtoman: you have networkconnection? then please "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:20] <k1l_> ah ok
[10:20] <k1l_> "Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[10:21] <BlueProtoman> OK, what does that mean and what do I do about it?
[10:21] <k1l_> "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old"
[10:21] <daedric> BlueProtoman: didn't you moved your xorg.conf{,.back} ?
[10:21] <BlueProtoman> daedric: Yes, I did
[10:21] <k1l_> that renames the xorg.conf which seems to be faulty
[10:22] <daedric> BlueProtoman: so either you missed the command, or it was regenerated.
[10:22] <daedric> maybe after the move, you can touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:22] <BlueProtoman> k1l_: OK, ran that, now what?
[10:22] <daedric> BlueProtoman: restart the service
[10:22] <k1l_> "sudo systemctl start sddm.service"
[10:23] <eimer_> Hi
[10:23] <BlueProtoman> daedric, k1l_: No output, no error.
[10:23] <daedric> was a xorg.conf recreated ?
[10:23] <BlueProtoman> daedric: Yes
[10:24] <daedric> BlueProtoman: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf && touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:24] <BlueProtoman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15666638/
[10:24] <k1l_> BlueProtoman: "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:24] <eimer_> I installed xcb but where can I find the header files? I still get an: fatal error: xcb/xcb.h: No such file or directory
[10:25] <BlueProtoman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15666646/
[10:25] <k1l_> BlueProtoman: did you create that new xorg.conf?
[10:25] <BlueProtoman> k1l_: Yes, one second
[10:25] <k1l_> "Undefined Screen "nvidia" referenced by ServerLayout "layout"."    that is the issue
[10:25] <BlueProtoman> k1l_: OK, now how do I resolve it?
[10:25] <BlueProtoman> Clearing and regenerating the xorg.conf is clearly not helping
[10:26] <k1l_> did you regenerate it manually? or just remove the file and tried to start ssdm?
[10:26] <BlueProtoman> Both
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> eimer_: did you install it from repos, or compiled from source?
[10:28] <eimer_> lotuspsychje, i did it over the terminal "sodu apt-get install xcb"
[10:28] <k1l_> BlueProtoman: "apt-cache policy ubuntu-drivers-common" in a pastebin please
[10:28] <BlueProtoman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15666694/
[10:29] <BlueProtoman> k1l_: ^
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> eimer_: could this be it? libx11-xcb-dev - Xlib/XCB interface library (development headers)
[10:30] <eimer_> Oh wow. Yea. Thats the right one.
[10:30] <eimer_> Thank you :-)
[10:30] <k1l_> BlueProtoman: seems its this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/1485236
[10:30] <daedric> BlueProtoman: me personnaly I'd remove everything nvidia related (like sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia\* )
[10:31] <BlueProtoman> k1l_: Oh, for fuck's sake.
[10:31] <BlueProtoman> daedric: Then what?
[10:32] <daedric> BlueProtoman: then it won't be able to generate a xorg.conf with nvidia, and the intel chipset should be used or nouveau driver
[10:32] <BlueProtoman> daedric: And then I can switch back to nVidia, right?  I *need* the nvidia drivers
[10:33] <daedric> BlueProtoman: yes, but maybe not a bleeding edge version in a ppa :). Maybe k1l_ or someone else has another solution
[10:33] <BlueProtoman> daedric: The PPA I used is supposed to be tested and maintained.  I had no problems with 358
[10:33] <daedric> BlueProtoman: it might not be the driver itself but the fact that you have also an intel card
[10:34] <BlueProtoman> daedric: OK.  But again.  This same driver, 358, has worked fine for me for months.
[10:34] <k1l_> BlueProtoman: wait a minute, i am searching for a workaround
[10:35] <daedric> BlueProtoman: I've had also those kind of issue (but I'm not doing opengl development, I use the nvidia driver because nouveau does not handle well multiple external display)
[10:35] <k1l_> BlueProtoman: can you show a /var/log/syslog ?
[10:35] <daedric> also, it seems that you have not the ubuntu-drivers-common 1:0.4.14 but the 1:0.4.11
[10:35] <daedric> and they say it has been fixed in 1:0.4.11
[10:35] <daedric> sorry
[10:35] <daedric> 1:0.4.14
[10:36] <k1l_> daedric: that is just in xenial so far.
[10:36] <hateball> BlueProtoman: I see you left #kubuntu, did 358 not work with the older kernel either, like it did when you were first asking for help?
[10:36] <BlueProtoman> hateball: It did, then I got bold and decided to try 361.  That failed, so I uninstalled and reinstalled 358.  That too failed, so now I'm back here.
[10:36] <daedric> k1l_: my bad
[10:36] <BlueProtoman> k1l_: It's huge.  It doesn't contain any personally identifying info, does it?
[10:37] <k1l_> BlueProtoman: no. no personal information
[10:37] <BlueProtoman> k1l_: OK.
[10:37] <daedric> k1l_: personal, no, but may your username + some software you installed
[10:37] <BlueProtoman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15666804/
[10:37] <hateball> BlueProtoman: Yes but if you recall, we tried booting an older kernel via the grub menu. By default on reboot it will choose the latest one, not the most recently used
[10:38] <BlueProtoman> hateball: That didn't work either.
[10:38] <BlueProtoman> hateball: At least not after I made the wise decision to try 361
[10:38] <hateball> BlueProtoman: Which means if you re-install 358, it will still boot 4.2.0-35
[10:38] <hateball> BlueProtoman: Ah, alright
[10:38] <hateball> BlueProtoman: Have you tried 352?
[10:38] <BlueProtoman> Next laptop I buy (probably end of this year or early next), I'm making damned fucking sure I won't have to deal with this shit
[10:38] <hateball> Hybrid graphics are a pain
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> BlueProtoman: please remain polite
[10:39] <BlueProtoman> hateball: Don't think so, but if I can stay with 358 I'd rather do so
[10:39] <hateball> BlueProtoman: Sure, just a means of troubleshooting is all
[10:39] <mer0> lllllllolllllll
[10:39] <mer0> ظن
[10:39] <hateball> BlueProtoman: It is the "LTS" branch after all
[10:40] <mer0> ظن
[10:40] <hateball> BlueProtoman: That said, if you have a manual xorg.conf or something of the sort, that might break things regardless of driver
[10:40] <k1l_> BlueProtoman: the bugreport says the issue is, that its looking in syslog for nvidia which brings an old error in. maybe a syslog rotate helps already
[10:40] <BlueProtoman> hateball: No, it was not manual.
[10:40] <BlueProtoman> k1l_: So clear my /var/syslog?  How?  Just rm it?
[10:41] <hateball> BlueProtoman: Stop the syslog service first or it wont release the file
[10:41] <BlueProtoman> hateball: How?
[10:42] <hateball> BlueProtoman: euh... I think "sudo service syslog stop" on 15.10. Am on 14.04 atm here
[10:43] <k1l_> logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog
[10:43] <hateball> that'll do it as well
[10:43] <k1l_> but i think systemd now handles that stuff. but i dont know if that will catch the syslog.
[10:44] <BlueProtoman> sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[10:44] <BlueProtoman> You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[10:44] <BlueProtoman> OK, now what?
[10:44] <BlueProtoman> Err, oops, didn't think that was visible
[10:45] <BlueProtoman> Can I reinstall nvidia-358 now?
[10:46] <k1l_> was it removed?
[10:46] <BlueProtoman> Yes
[10:46] <rexwin_> how to stop firewall in ubuntu
[10:46] <BlueProtoman> Removed it about half an hour ago
[10:46] <k1l_> run a "sudo apt purge nvidia*" first
[10:46] <BlueProtoman> Wait, no, syslogs weren't purged properly
[10:46] <k1l_> to make sure you dont have any other nvidia version left
[10:46] <Bonn333> rexwin_: sudo service apparmor stop
[10:48] <Bonn333> My fail.
[10:48] <Bonn333> I dont know
[10:48] <BlueProtoman> k1l_: How do I rotate the logfile again?  I get a bunch of errors that look like "skipping file because parent directory has insecure permissions"
[10:49] <BlueProtoman> (Can't /exec -out it here, need sudo but I can't provide it in irssi)
[10:49] <rexwin_> apparmor: unrecognized service
[10:50] <TJ-> Bonn333: rexwin_ apparmor is *not* the firewall, it is the process containment security service
[10:50] <Bonn333> TJ- Sorry.  So that my friend can connect using VNC and fix my computer? he won't use teamviewer because It is not free/libre
[10:52] <BlueProtoman> hiya: What about Remmina?
[10:53] <hiya> BlueProtoman, what is it?
[10:53] <BlueProtoman> hiya: VNC client, I think
[10:53] <BlueProtoman> Never used it, but it wouldn't hurt to take a look
[10:54] <Robert-Tzaganu> Hi guys
[10:54] <BlueProtoman> hateball: After I install nvidia-358, I can just restart the syslog service again?
[10:55] <k1l_> BlueProtoman: the thing is the driver handler scans the syslog. anf while he finds old nvidia stuff there he makes wrong settings.
[10:56] <BlueProtoman> k1l_: Right.  So I just reinstalled nvidia-358 and restarted the syslog service.  Now what?
[10:56] <BlueProtoman> (in that order)
[10:56] <k1l_> try to load ssdm
[10:56] <BlueProtoman> What was the command for that again?
[10:57] <k1l_> "sudo systemctl start sddm.service"
[10:57] <BlueProtoman> k1l_: Nothing.  No error, no output.
[10:57] <k1l_> please make a reboot
[10:57] <BlueProtoman> OK, be right back
[11:00] <BlueProtoman> hateball, k1l_: It worked!  In celebration, I shall now blast Queen's "Don't Stop Me Now", sleeping roommates be damned.
[11:00] <hateball> BlueProtoman: :D
[11:00] <BlueProtoman> Thank you so much!  And you, daedric
[11:01] <k1l_> ok :)
[11:01] <hateball> BlueProtoman: Remember there's a 16.04 coming up, so... you might experience breakage soon :p
[11:01] <k1l_> that issue is fixed in 16.04 :)
[11:01] <hateball> I see
[11:01] <BlueProtoman> hateball: Not gonna upgrade until the semester's over (and in fact, I'm gonna switch back to plain old Ubuntu; Kubuntu's been more trouble than it's worth)
[11:02] <hateball> Meh, too each their own. I couldnt live without plasma :)
[11:02] <BlueProtoman> It crashes on me more often than GNOME did
[11:02] <hateball> Driver issues of this kind are unrelated to the DE at any rate
[11:03] <sine0> Ok so i have ubuntu 15.10, I am getting a problem with webpages loading in ANY browser. sometimes they just hang, yet i can ping google and the websites fine from teh command line. its not the internet its something going on in the OS itself, any anyone think what it could be ?
[11:03] <BlueProtoman> Yeah, I know.  Still considering switching back to GNOME when I upgrade though
[11:03] <hateball> BlueProtoman: Well you dont need to reinstall anyhows, you can just upgrade (and you have to since 15.10 goes EOL), and switch between DE's at login
[11:04] <BlueProtoman> hateball: I kind of want to repartition anyway
[11:04] <hateball> BlueProtoman: Sure, even tho you can just do that from a live-cd anyhow
[11:05] <BlueProtoman> Whatever the case, thank you for your help!
[11:05] <hateball> :)
[11:08] <BlueProtoman> hateball: Oh, uh, actually, one more thing; how do I enable my nVidia GPU again?
[11:10] <hateball> BlueProtoman: Do you have nvidia-prime installed? Then you go in nvidia-settings and choose operating mode
[11:11] <BlueProtoman> hateball: Oh, yes, I see.  Thanks!
[11:11] <hateball> BlueProtoman: as far as I know, I should say. Not using hybrid graphics myself
[11:15] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:15] <adac> Does for someone still work the my-weather-indicator  with yahoo?
[11:17] <k1l_> adac: after the update it doesnt work anymore at all for me :/
[11:17] <adac> k1l_, :/
[11:19] <k1l_> adac: https://bugs.launchpad.net/my-weather-indicator/+bug/1565495
[11:20] <adac> k1l_, lets hope someone can fix ist
[11:20] <adac> *fix it
[11:21] <Chandrax> hi people
[11:21] <Chandrax> i somebody can help me.. i am trying to update the bios for my Lenovo with ubuntu 15 installed
[11:22] <Chandrax> but unfortunately... i must do it from windows only... so when i try to install windows on a free partition.. the installer says  i cant do it because the disk has a GPT partition type
[11:23] <Chandrax> any idea how to do that?
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> Chandrax: check the pc models webpage, for bios update instructions
[11:23] <Chandrax> i did
[11:23] <Chandrax> and i must have windows installed to make the update
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> Chandrax: no bootable cd method possible?
[11:24] <Chandrax> i cant boot from that cd...
[11:24] <TJ-> Chandrax: is it an UEFI capsule you have to upgrade with?
[11:24] <Chandrax> i dont know what is a uefi capsule
[11:24] <Chandrax> i just can tell you that i have an uefi boot
[11:25] <hateball> Then it is possible to upgrade without Windows iirc, just annoying
[11:25] <dsgdsgdsg> Is there a way to pick and choose what traffic goes through a VPN? I want to use a VPN for everything except my online games
[11:25] <Chandrax> hateball explain please
[11:25] <TJ-> Chandrax: Does the PC have a UEFI ? ahhh, yes, then the update is probably delivered as an UEFI Capsule format file. You might be interested to know that as of Ubuntu 16.04 you'll be able to update the firmware from Linux with a Capsule file
[11:25] <hateball> Chandrax: I think TJ- knows more
[11:25] <Chandrax> cool
[11:26] <Chandrax> TJ how?
[11:26] <Chandrax> is there a link to a tutorial?
[11:29] <Cablegunmaster> dsgdsgdsg, just shut off the routing when you start up the game xD.
[11:30] <dsgdsgdsg> Cablegunmaster: What if I want to browse the web and game at the same time?
[11:30] <TJ-> !info fwupdate | Chandrax
[11:30] <Cablegunmaster> only setup the routing for port 80 and 443.
[11:31] <Chandrax> thanks alot
[11:31] <Cablegunmaster> dsgdsgdsg, where do you put those rules? in the router or on your ubuntu installation?
[11:32] <dsgdsgdsg> Cablegunmaster: In Ubuntu
[11:32] <dsgdsgdsg> Cablegunmaster: I haven't set anything up yet
[11:32] <TJ-> Chandrax: also see the primary upstream project: https://secure-lvfs.rhcloud.com/
[11:32] <dsgdsgdsg> Cablegunmaster: Just exploring whether it's possible
[11:32] <Cablegunmaster> dsgdsgdsg, everything is possible ;)
[11:32] <Cablegunmaster> question is how much time do you want to spend on it.
[11:33] <Cablegunmaster> dsgdsgdsg, See: http://askubuntu.com/questions/674052/route-only-https-traffic-through-vpn try A.B answer
[11:33] <Cablegunmaster> I think that seems the way to go.
[11:33] <Chandrax> thanku
[11:33] <dsgdsgdsg> Cablegunmaster: I want my Bittorrent to go through VPN too
[11:34] <Cablegunmaster> well same way, but make sure the bittorrent has a fixed port
[11:34] <dsgdsgdsg> Cablegunmaster: Nice, thanks!
[11:34] <Cablegunmaster> just note down the port
[11:34] <dsgdsgdsg> Cablegunmaster: it would probably be better if I could just blacklist my games
[11:34] <Cablegunmaster> good luck its just a reference, dsgdsgdsg  but it seems solid.
[11:34] <dsgdsgdsg> Cablegunmaster: It's just games I don't want going through the VPN
[11:35] <Cablegunmaster> well lookup the ports the games are using.
[11:35] <Cablegunmaster> and use the same link.
[11:35] <dsgdsgdsg> Cablegunmaster:Nice, thanks!
[11:35] <dsgdsgdsg> Cablegunmaster: Can I do the same thing on Windows 10?
[11:35] <Cablegunmaster> nope
[11:36] <dsgdsgdsg> Cablegunmaster: wow that sucks
[11:36] <Cablegunmaster> might, actually but I don't know how yet.
[11:36] <dsgdsgdsg> Cablegunmaster: Can I not install iptables on Windows?
[11:37] <Cablegunmaster> dsgdsgdsg, http://serverfault.com/questions/207620/windows-equivalent-of-iptables
[11:37] <Cablegunmaster> something like this xD .
[11:40] <dsgdsgdsg> Cablegunmaster: What VPN should I use? I heard Private Internet Access is quite good
[11:41] <Cablegunmaster> dsgdsgdsg, your own choice
[11:42] <BluesKaj> dsgdsgdsg, I use PIA , it's exellent , inexpensive, reliable and easy to setup
[11:42] <dsgdsgdsg> BluesKaj: And easy to blacklist games so I don't get laggy gaming?
[11:43] <dsgdsgdsg> Blue1: Will it stop my parents from seeing the websites I visit?
[11:44] <dsgdsgdsg> BluesKaj: It looks like they don't offer the $2.50 a month deal any more :(
[11:44] <dsgdsgdsg> BluesKaj: Only $3.25 now :(
[11:44] <BluesKaj> dsgdsgdsg, wife uses it on windows for her games like D&D and Lotro, no issues or lag etc, I'm not a gamer
[11:44] <dsgdsgdsg> BluesKaj: Those games aren't esports. I can't use a VPN for competitive gaming
[11:45] <dsgdsgdsg> BluesKaj: I will either need to reroute gaming traffic or disable routing when I launch a game
[11:45] <BluesKaj> ok, vpn is meant more for anonymity I think
[11:46] <dsgdsgdsg> BluesKaj: I want anonymity and to play games
[11:46] <cfhowlett> tails for anon
[11:46] <dsgdsgdsg> BluesKaj: I just prefer lower latency in-game and not anonymity, then anonymity in torrent client and firefox
[11:46] <BluesKaj> dsgdsgdsg,, you can chat with the PIA rep on their site and get your questions answered there
[11:47] <EriC^^> back in the day you used to put a null character in the windows folder so nobody could access it
[11:47] <EriC^^> and remove it from the command line , alt+0255 or something
[11:49] <mallard> Is there a tool that easily sets up Xinerama?
[11:50] <mallard> I'm having a look at the XineramaHowTo wiki article but I don't have an Xorg.conf
[12:02] <Alex____> Hello
[12:03] <rilleh> Hello Alex____
[12:03] <Alex____> Please help to me install my nvidia driver
[12:04] <Alex____> would you please help me out ?
[12:04] <hateball> Alex____: What seems to be the problem?
[12:04] <rilleh> 364.15 Beta is out today, is this the one you want to install?
[12:05] <hateball> That's also not in the repos, thus not supported here per se
[12:05] <Alex____> no i want to install NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-361.42.run
[12:06] <rilleh> Alex____: What's the problem?
[12:06] <Alex____> I have already downloaded the file from the nvidia website
[12:06] <Alex____> i don't know how to insatll
[12:06] <hateball> Alex____: I'd suggest you add the nvidia ppa instead, if you really want newer drivers than are in the official repos
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Alex____, that's not an ubuntu  supported driver , it will break on your first kernel upgrade
[12:07] <cfhowlett> Alex____, beta drivers?  and not in the repos?  Not supported here.  hint: use the official repos
[12:07] <hateball> Alex____: If you know what you are doing, https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[12:08] <Diamond_Sword> hello friends..
[12:08] <Diamond_Sword> this is what I've accomplished :) http://i.hizliresim.com/Zkp0mG.png
[12:08] <Diamond_Sword> thank you all for help
[12:09] <Alex____> just tell me how can i install the driver
[12:09] <BluesKaj> Alex____,  pastebin, lspci |grep VGA, to give us which gpu you have
[12:09] <cfhowlett> !ppa | Alex____
[12:09] <hgty> is there only 2 gtk thrmes in ubuntu, or?
[12:10] <EriC^^> !themes | hgty
[12:10] <Alex____> so you means i can't install it ?
[12:10] <Alex____> what ubuntu support then >
[12:10] <Alex____> ?
[12:10] <hgty> even adwaita theme is not available
[12:10] <rilleh> You can install it, it's just not officially supported Alex____
[12:10] <cfhowlett> Alex____, full instructions are in the links.  we don't do a lot of handholding here.
[12:11] <rilleh> Read up on how to add PPA on your system and then install your driver from there
[12:13] <Alex____> i got you but if you ubuntu do not give support about the additional hardware drivers of those hardware what kind of system it is ?
[12:13] <Alex____> then why should i use if i can't use those hardwares
[12:13] <Alex____> lol
[12:13] <cfhowlett> Alex____, we did support you.  refer the tlinks
[12:14] <Alex____> i can find it myself
[12:24] <kalexyco> bonjour
[12:25] <cfhowlett> !fr | kalexyco
[12:30] <Deruni> hello guys
[12:30] <Deruni> I am new with ubuntu I am trying to change directory but it says no such file or directory
[12:30] <spacecub> hi all :)
[12:31] <Deruni> I typed ls and there is Downloads section but I can't get into
[12:31] <Fuchs> Deruni: sure it is spelled correctly, including case?
[12:31] <spacecub> trying to install q3a on lubuntu64, not having much luck with games :)
[12:31] <Fuchs> Deruni: you can use the tab key to autocomplete it for you
[12:31] <k1l_> Deruni: what did you type exactly?
[12:31] <spacecub> is it ok to install samba these days, or should i be using something else?
[12:31] <Deruni> I am typing cd /Downloads but didn't work
[12:32] <k1l_> Deruni: try without the /
[12:32] <Fuchs> Deruni: no /
[12:32] <Deruni> ?
[12:32] <Fuchs> Deruni: otherwise it will try at the root folder  (/)
[12:32] <Deruni> ohh thanks
[12:32] <Fuchs> Deruni: cd Downloads      if Downloads is in the current folder you are in  (probably: your home folder)
[12:32] <k1l_> /folder  means that you want to go to the "folder" on /
[12:32] <Deruni> I am that stupid :D
[12:33] <Fuchs> Deruni: nah, no worries, you'll learn :)
[12:33] <rilleh> spacecub: I use it on my homeserver withouth issues
[12:35] <Deruni> funch: thanks mate I am eager to learn new stuffs and I wanna be programmer this is probably off-topic but is there a chat room like that? yesterday evening I try to join off topic but I couldn't get in
[12:35] <cfhowlett> !ot | derFlo
[12:35] <Kartagis> Deruni: whereas cd ~/Downloads will take you to Downloads directory in your home directory, no matter where you are on the filesystem
[12:35] <Fuchs> Deruni: there is #ubuntu-offtopic for social chatter, there is ##programming   for programming
[12:35] <cfhowlett> Deruni, do this:   /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:35] <Fuchs> Deruni: there are various others, e.g. for specific languages. In general: you can search for channels with alis, see /msg alis help list. /msg alis list *searchterm* looks for channel names containing searchterm. /msg alis list * -topic *searchterm* looks for channel topics containing searchterm.
[12:36] <spacecub> rilleh: thanky, i assume you mean Samba, lubuntu always complkains of untrusted sources?
[12:36] <Deruni> thats why I love linux I wish I didn't quit when ı was a teenager everyone is so helpfull thanks guys
[12:37] <cfhowlett> !fcm | Deruni
[12:37] <spacecub> oh, its woking today..
[12:37] <spacecub> working
[12:43] <Knoodle> hi. sorry to bother... but i'd love someone to explain me how to make a uefi capsule update for my bios... i have a Lenovo B50-10 laptop
[12:45] <n-iCe> Knoodle, bever used it
[12:45] <n-iCe> sorry
[12:47] <Knoodle> who is bever?
[12:47] <k1l_> *never
[12:50] <Deruni> can I hide the servers enterence and leaving massages?
[12:50] <cfhowlett> !quietirc | Deruni
[12:51] <maddawg3> w007... my seeds shipped today
[12:51] <maddawg3> so exciting
[12:51] <LeftFootBraker> Hey Guys, I have a question about smb: what bandwidth can you expect when two linux-machines are connected via 100M-Ethernet? -I am only getting 4MB/s... :-(
[12:51] <maddawg3> well that's 32Mb/s
[12:51] <Knoodle> please somebody help me
[12:51] <maddawg3> thats about what i'd expect at 100mb/s
[12:51] <Deruni> thanks again
[12:52] <LeftFootBraker> and that only about a third what I would expect... :-)
[12:52] <maddawg3> no
[12:52] <maddawg3> smb
[12:52] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> While I'm trying to install LAMP I found this command sudo apt-get install apache2 apache-utils, the second part is not working. Does anyone know what apache-utils is? what would I need it for?
[12:52] <maddawg3> huge overhead
[12:52] <maddawg3> use something like NFS
[12:52] <cfhowlett> Knoodle, you asked.   now be patient and wait.  if no answer in 15 minutes, ask again
[12:52] <Knoodle> ok. ssorry
[12:53] <LeftFootBraker> but the overhead should be showing on the eth0-traffic, shouldn't it?
[12:53] <maddawg3> no  smb just isnt very fast
[12:53] <LeftFootBraker> so, raw it should be about 100Mb, the actual transferred bandwith is lower
[12:53] <maddawg3> do iperf between each server
[12:54] <LeftFootBraker> both machines show cpu usage below 20%
[12:54] <k1l_> LeftFootBraker: no. the cable can do 100M in best case. there is not mention of software on that
[12:54] <maddawg3> install iperf on one machine and run the test against the other
[12:54] <maddawg3> tell me what speeds you see
[12:54] <k1l_> LeftFootBraker: and smb is slow
[12:54] <maddawg3> SLLOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW
[12:54] <k1l_> LeftFootBraker: and if you run it on a rpi, its even more slow
[12:55] <maddawg3> personally i use nfs
[12:55] <LeftFootBraker> ok, one moment, iperf isn't installed on either machine
[12:55] <LeftFootBraker> ok, but even the rpi reports 95% idle at the moment
[12:55] <LeftFootBraker> just installing iperf on the desktop
[12:57] <k1l_> LeftFootBraker: the rpi is slow at everything. so guess 4MB/s is right ok.
[12:58] <Guest581> Woooooo~~~
[12:59] <LeftFootBraker> lol... with iperf I am only 17.4 to 20 Mb/s... ;-)
[12:59] <LeftFootBraker> ...only getting...
[12:59] <maddawg3> whats the speed of the storage on the rasppi
[12:59] <LeftFootBraker> usb-hdd
[12:59] <maddawg3> usb 1.0?
[12:59] <maddawg3> 2.0?
[12:59] <LeftFootBraker> 2.0
[13:00] <Guest581> woo
[13:00] <maddawg3> i mean personally 100mb/s is a rating in a perfect environment
[13:00] <cfhowlett> Guest581, this is ubuntu support.  ask your technical question
[13:00] <LeftFootBraker> networking is confusing... -smb produces 32MBps, iperf only 20... some magic going on there :-)
[13:01] <LeftFootBraker> maddawg3: I know... 100MB/s is best conditions, but I was expecting a bit more than 32Mb/s for a large transfer...
[13:01] <LeftFootBraker> ok, then I have to stick with it... :-(
[13:01] <maddawg3> firast it's not 100MB/s
[13:02] <maddawg3> it's 100Mb/s
[13:02] <maddawg3> VERY different measurement
[13:02] <LeftFootBraker> sorry... I meant 100Mb
[13:02] <LeftFootBraker> was a typo
[13:02] <maddawg3> get giagbit
[13:02] <Guest581> does anyone knnow how can I remove the qt4 in the gbueabi package
[13:02] <maddawg3> it's 2016
[13:03] <LeftFootBraker> my desktop has 1G-Ethernet, but the rpi doesn't (as far as I know) and I only have 100M-switches... :-(
[13:03] <k1l_> LeftFootBraker: performance and rpi. choose one. :)
[13:04] <LeftFootBraker> ok, thanks to all contributors; I think I had too high expectations... -so, case closed :-) -thanks again for all answers! :-)
[13:04] <pbx> i have to select "enable wifi" when i wake my dell e5450 from sleep (ubuntu 14.04). didn't have to do this on my last dell running 14.04. how can i set it to enable on wake?
[13:05] <Guest581> LOL
[13:09] <NoisyBoy> ciao
[13:17] <ubuntu_> for a question about intalling a tar.gz file witouth install file inside kann i ask here?
[13:18] <Knoodle> ok i guess now i can ask help again
[13:18] <Knoodle> i have a lenovo b50-10 with ubuntu  and i need to make a uefi capsule firmware update... i dont understand how to do it. could you help?
[13:21] <ubuntu_> also i have downloaded the m-audio usb midi firmware from sourhforge.. now i don't find install file in the archive and in a way the komputer ask me fore fxload.. same problem whit this..
[13:21] <ubuntu_> i have to install a tar.gz file who kann i ask?
[13:22] <ouroumov> ubuntu_, depends on what's in the .tar.gz file. It's just an archive format like .zip
[13:23] <ubuntu_> ourmov kann i link you something? maybe you do it in one second?
[13:23] <ouroumov> yeah give the download link
[13:24] <momobi> salut fr
[13:24] <NoisyBoy> http://irclog.greptilian.com/openknot/today
[13:24] <Guest80451> hi
[13:25] <NoisyBoy> ciao
[13:25] <ouroumov>  !fr | momobi
[13:25] <ubuntu_> thank you bro but i think i made it on the fly by searching fore you.. sometimes to make the simplest thing i get the most time
[13:25] <ubuntu_> thank you wery much
[13:25] <ubuntu_> but
[13:26] <Guest80451> this irc is encrypted ?
[13:26] <ubuntu_> http://usb-midi-fw.sourceforge.net/
[13:26] <pitastrudl> how do i add sftp to nautilus, i have a ssh server but its not on defualt port and its key based login
[13:26] <ubuntu_> ouroumov... this is the link.. how to did it whit this way please? so i could learn something new http://usb-midi-fw.sourceforge.net/
[13:29] <ouroumov> ubuntu_, you do this by executing the files in some orders. I think starting with install-sh, the code needs to be compiled into a binary which is why there's files such as Makefile* using the "make" command after having configured (using the ./configure program) for your computer
[13:31] <Tex_Nick> pitastrudl: CTRL+L then ... sftp://example.org[:port]/   or   sftp://[user[:password]@]example.org[:port]/[path/to/directory/]
[13:32] <pitastrudl>  omg that worked
[13:32] <pitastrudl> thanks alot Tex_Nick
[13:32] <pitastrudl> wooo
[13:32] <Tex_Nick> pitastrudl: you're welcome my friend ;-)
[13:32] <pitastrudl> i wonder if i should keep using nautilus or just switch to filezilla
[13:33] <ubuntu_> i don't have the need, i think.. to write it new for my esigence... also for my computer.. i found also the same file on the ubuntu software center!!! also no problem
[13:33] <pitastrudl> i dont really need much from it but maybe a better piece of software would be better
[13:34] <ubuntu_> thank you very much.. this way, I think.. is for more professional audio studio... for my usb uno 1x1 it schould do the job ^^
[13:34] <ouroumov> filezilla is pretty good, though the version in the repos lags quite a bit behind the current version
[13:34] <ouroumov> And compiling a recent version is painful.
[13:34] <SchrodingersScat> !latest
[13:35] <Tex_Nick> pitastrudl: there are so many options for file sharing in linux that i couldn't answer that
[13:36] <ouroumov> SchrodingersScat, I wasn't complaining, just stating a fact. Some new ciphers / MACs, etcs have no support in the current version which forced me to compile the new one following a change in ssh configuration on a server I use.
[13:43] <rds> c
[13:45] <Kartagis> !grub
[13:47] <n-iCe> weird Sound from both headphones and speakers
[13:48] <sh0t> hi guys
[13:50] <sh0t> i upgraded to ubuntu 15.10 if i ran gnome-control-center i can't see the audio settings, i have audio though... the problem is that i want to run the gnome-sound-applet in awesome wm like i was doing in ubuntu 14.04
[13:50] <sh0t> where didi my audio applet go?
[13:50] <sh0t> :)
[13:52] <pitastrudl> Tex_Nick: ok
[13:52] <pitastrudl> guess ill just stay with nautilus
[13:53] <pitastrudl> im using windows as my main os on pc
[13:54] <Tex_Nick> pitastrudl: i use it a lot on my lan with static ip<EMAIL_ADDRESS> then enter password @ prompt
[13:56] <pitastrudl> yeah i got a raspbery pi so i use that for it then
[13:56] <pitastrudl> but i dont have password, just passphrasless priv key
[13:59] <alnour> hi
[13:59] <alnour> i want to use some sort of some thing in that some
[14:01] <Knoodle> hello i am back..
[14:02] <Knoodle> please somebody help me to update the firmware of my pc with uefi capsule mode
[14:03] <daveomcd> I just remove a file on ubuntu server with "rm", but it still says I'm taking up 94% space... what do i need to do to permanently delete the file?
[14:04] <rsevero> daveomcd: There probably is a running process with this file still opened. IF you stop this procees, the spave will be actually freed.
[14:05] <daveomcd> is there a way to check for that?
[14:05] <LeftFootBraker> daveomcd: lsof | grep <nameoffile>
[14:05] <rsevero> daveomcd: I bet luser of fsof might be able to provide this info but I don't know the exact incantation.
[14:07] <daveomcd> rsevero, ok that showed many different processes... is there a way to restart just those processes easily? I'm just looking to see if there is a way to do it other than restarting the server
[14:08] <jocker5me5> hi
[14:09] <n-iCe> any idea? I have sound in speakers and headphones
[14:09] <rsevero> daveomcd: You can always kill those processes but I'm not sure that's a nice way to deal with the problem. What file is it? A log file?
[14:09] <daveomcd> rsevero, yep log files
[14:10] <rsevero> Can't you restart the daemon creating this log file?
[14:11] <LeftFootBraker> davomcd: post the output of the lsof-command
[14:11] <daveomcd> ahh i'll try that uno momento
[14:11] <LeftFootBraker> if you don't like to do that
[14:12] <LeftFootBraker> the first row is the name of the process, the second the pid
[14:12] <LeftFootBraker> assume "example     12345 ...." example would be the name of the process and 12345 the pid
[14:14] <rsevero> Hi. I have a Ubuntu 15.10 machine presenting errrors like the following during an "apt-get dist-upgrade":
[14:14] <rsevero> Error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1: Timeout was reached (g-io-error-quark, 24)
[14:14] <rsevero> Failed to execute operation: Connection timed out
[14:14] <rsevero> Error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut: Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1': timed out (g-dbus-error-quark, 20)
[14:14] <rsevero> Any ideias on what is wrong? And on how to fix?
[14:15] <codenamepod> Need help with Ubuntu-Win dual boot.
[14:16] <EriC^^> codenamepod: what's up?
[14:16] <codenamepod> Hey EriC^^ : I installed Ubuntu and did a boot-repair but then Windows won't boot.
[14:17] <EriC^^> codenamepod: ok, which windows?
[14:17] <codenamepod> So, I reinstalled windows and now there is no option to boot into ubuntu
[14:17] <codenamepod> Windows 10, it is
[14:17] <EriC^^> aha
[14:17] <EriC^^> are you in windows right now or ubuntu live usb?
[14:17] <codenamepod> Windows, now
[14:18] <EriC^^> ok, boot the ubuntu live usb and get back on here
[14:18] <jocker5me5> need some one to hack site and edit the database
[14:19] <EriC^^> lol
[14:19] <EriC^^> which site?
[14:19] <bayer> hi, i compiled the iwlwifi kernel module for the intel 7260 wireless card, and now i wonder if there is a way to do this automatically, so that i dont have to do it everytime i update the system (i.e. the kernel)?
[14:19] <EriC^^> jocker5me5: actually dont tell us
[14:19] <nomic> rr
[14:20] <jocker5me5> why ?
[14:20] <EriC^^> cause if you do hack it you don't want any proof on irc