[09:37] <munckfish> Hi, I have a patch which re-enables fullscreen mode in Java on Xorg server 1.3+.
[09:37] <munckfish> Although the freeze is on Hardy, I wondered if it was likely that I'd get it in to the openjdk package at this stage
[09:38] <munckfish> I'm a bit short of time this month but if it's likely to get included, I'll try to find time to add it in.
[09:38] <munckfish> Patch is on upstream java2d mailing list attached to this post:
[09:39] <munckfish> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/2d-dev/2008-January/000129.html
[09:41] <munckfish> The stuff about mouse problems can be safely ignore - they went away once I stopped using the Gutsy LiveCD and updated xorg
[09:44] <munckfish> anyway, tdv (Dmitri T) has been testing it and seems happy with it
[09:46] <munckfish> It fixes https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sun-java6/+bug/154613
[09:47] <munckfish> doko: you're the current maintainer right?
[09:56] <doko> munckfish: thanks, could you close the report for openjdk? I think it is `wontfix' for icedtea in gutsy unless somebody adds a patch and starts the sru process for gutsy
[09:57] <doko> ahh, you already did write this =)
[10:05] <munckfish> umm
[10:05] <munckfish> Hi doko, what do you mean close for openjdk?
[10:05] <munckfish> I hadn't got around to connecting that bug
[10:05] <munckfish> to the new openjdk package source in LP
[10:05] <munckfish> :) I was just trying to remember how to connect it
[10:06] <munckfish> Yes I don't think it's worth worry about IcedTea/gutsy
[10:06] <munckfish> at the moment
[10:49] <munckfish> doko: I don't have perms to set "Won't Fix" for IcedTea
[10:51] <munckfish> doko: let me know what you want to do (or not) about it. Cheers
[11:59] <Mez> doko, I guess you got it sorted then ? :P
[13:02] <doko> munckfish: done
[13:04] <doko> munckfish: ohh, didn't reload the page, if you do want to backport that, then maybe I should reopen the report
[13:04] <munckfish> Hi doko
[13:05] <munckfish> I'm not bothered about backporting
[13:05] <munckfish> I'm running against a custom openjdk build on gutsy
[13:05] <munckfish> I'll be upgrading immediately on hardy release
[13:05] <munckfish> so lets wait and see if anyone wants the backport
[13:06] <doko> munckfish: is the patch technically accepted by upstream?
[13:06] <munckfish> I believe so
[13:06] <munckfish> Dmitri had tested on hardy himself
[13:07] <munckfish> I think the only thing outstanding for him was testing on solaris
[13:07] <doko> ok, I'll try to get it in
[13:07] <munckfish> I'll find you the relevant mail
[13:07] <munckfish> so you can be sure
[13:08] <munckfish> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/2d-dev/2008-February/000147.html
[13:08] <munckfish> He's been 'preparing' it for inclusion for a wee while now
[13:08] <munckfish> but in the mail he advocates passing it to Icedtea project
[13:10] <munckfish> doko: on the way I've checked with various people including Xorg f
[13:10] <munckfish> Xorg folk
[13:10] <munckfish> and this seems to be the correct approach for post 1.3 X servers
[13:10] <doko> ok
[13:11] <munckfish> Do you recommend I open a bug on IcedTea bugzilla and then make noise on a mailing list?
[13:12] <munckfish> To be honest there's so many different lists and trackers I wasn't quite sure how best to efficiently advance the patch
[13:12] <munckfish> down from upstream
[13:12] <munckfish> :
[13:12] <munckfish> :(
[13:15] <munckfish> doko: thanks for for considering it. Let me know if you run out of time and need me to make up a debdiff or something
[13:18] <doko> munckfish: a ChangeLog entry would be nice =)
[13:19] <munckfish> Aha ok
[13:19] <munckfish> Shall I attach it to the bug?
[13:22] <doko> sure, or paste it here
[13:24] <munckfish> doko: how about this:
[13:25] <munckfish> * Make Java Full Screen Exclusive Mode work again with Xorg Server 1.3 and above. LP: #154613 (Java bug 6636469).
[13:25] <munckfish> Or do you want more detail?
[13:26] <doko> ok
[13:30] <munckfish> doko: do you need anything else from me now? If not I'll be away for about an hour then I'll be avail to assist again.
[13:34] <doko> munckfish: no, won't do that now.
[13:34] <munckfish> doko: thx speak later


[21:58] <schultza> I'm new to the subject. So I will need to know how to RSS feed those files and password or certificate protect that feed.
[21:58] <auvajs> hi, on my server I was unable to boot because of this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/631362/error-getting-authority-error-initializing-authority-could-not-connect-no-suc error so I commented a line in /etc/fstab but now I have read-only system, someone to help me how to change /etc/fstab to have a normal system?
[21:58] <schultza> Any good starts?
[21:59] <ubuntu750> is this a chat for help with linux?
[21:59] <Braybaut> auvajs, partitions running as read only ?
[21:59] <Tin_man> mostly ubuntu ubuntu750, yes
[21:59] <Braybaut> avdi, find problems of inodes in dmesg
[21:59] <Girly_> Thanks guys for the input. It is always a pleasure to speak with the nice folks here. Take care.
[22:00] <Bashing-om> ubuntu750: K; Show the channel what we are working with . pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' .
[22:00] <esperegu> Anyone knows why this is not working:  'echo "this is a test" | text2wave -scale 2 -f 44100 | play -' and this is: 'echo "this is a test" | text2wave -scale 2 -f 44100 > test.wav ; play test.wav'
[22:00] <ubuntu750> is there another option to load the grub without having to select repair grub
[22:00] <ubuntu750> i tried that several times from the terminal and it had no effect
[22:00] <ubuntu750> and from windows as well
[22:00] <netameta__> Reading, https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/input/event-codes.txt - under what event type will BTN_LEFT go ? will it be under EV_REL ?
[22:00] <ubuntu750> i do not know what is wrong
[22:00] <auvajs> Braybaut: idk, before I commented the line I couldn't even start /etc/init.d/networking, so I commented it and now I can start networking, but I can't start apache2, probably because it's read only system, I'm not sure
[22:01] <schultza> My question about servering a private RSS feed is on an ubuntu machine. I dont know where to start.
[22:01] <auvajs> Braybaut: this is my /etc/fstab atm: http://pastebin.com/BeVeqYY0
[22:01] <ubuntu750> thanks
[22:02] <Braybaut> auronandace2, change remount-ro to remount-rw
[22:02] <Bashing-om> auvajs: "
[22:02] <Braybaut> show df -h
[22:02] <Braybaut> auronandace2, find errors in apache2 logs and dmesg logs
[22:02] <Bashing-om> auvajs: "
[22:03] <Bashing-om> # UUID=cfeb5d31-2080-4dfe-9dd9-bf0344e1832c / " with - root- commented out .. can not mount the file system . remove the '#' chatacter .
[22:04] <auvajs> Braybaut: Bashing-om so uncommenting and changing remount-ro to remount-rw?
[22:04] <Braybaut> auronandace2, yes,
[22:05] <Braybaut> auronandace2, shows erros in httpd and dmesg logs
[22:05] <Braybaut> and service httpd status
[22:05] <new123> so.. i am new to linux, i really like ubuntu-gnome after trying many distros, just a bit worried I'll mess something up in the installation (currently on live USB)
[22:05] <auvajs> Braybaut: Bashing-om shit, I can't do this cause Error writing /etc/fstab: Read-only file system
[22:05] <auvajs> lol
[22:06] <Braybaut> auronandace2, could be errors inodes
[22:06] <Jordan_U> auvajs: Bashing-om: You shouldn't change errors=remount-ro to errors=remount-rw. Remounting read only on errors is a safety measure.
[22:06] <Braybaut> find errors inodes in dmesg and boot.log auronandace2
[22:06] <Bashing-om> auvajs: No ! Just remove that '#' character . Mine for reference : UUID=3a47f1f1-ed1f-4134-b6aa-be101a7d97b4 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1 ' . Boot up in recovery mode, and we remoount to make the change .
[22:07] <new123> I just got a "new" used thinkpad, and worried I'll ruin something during installation. Is it critical that I defrag my hard disk prior?
[22:07] <Braybaut> write that: mount -o remount,rw /
[22:07] <Jordan_U> new123: No, degrag before installing isn't needed.
[22:07] <auvajs> Braybaut: Braybaut Jordan_U can't save the file :( does it mean I'm doomed?
[22:09] <Braybaut> auvajs, write this: mount -o rw,remount / after change line in fstab
[22:09] <Braybaut> auvajs, find the error in files logs
[22:10] <Bashing-om> auvajs: One way; boot up recovery mode frpm grub . -> root console and type ' mount -o remount,rw ' to remount the root file system .
[22:10] <auvajs> Braybaut: these are two commands one command?
[22:10] <new123> I have 300GB on this machine right now and I do plan to use windows. I am not sure what size I should give to Linux and whether to do the regular install or to define extra partitions.. a bit confused about all this..
[22:10] <Braybaut> could be: full size in partitions or error in inodes table, find error in logs files
[22:11] <auvajs> Braybaut: ok I did
[22:11] <Braybaut> auvajs, twos commands
[22:11] <schultza> Where can I ask about RSS Podcast feeds on ubuntu server?
[22:11] <auvajs> Braybaut: now my line looks like this: UUID=cfeb5d31-2080-4dfe-9dd9-bf0344e1832c /               ext4    errors=remount-rw 0       1
[22:11] <auvajs> Bashing-om: Bray90820 is it ok?
[22:12] <auvajs> is it safe to reboot?
[22:13] <Bashing-om> auvajs: Yeah .. verify " cfeb5d31-2080-4dfe-9dd9-bf0344e1832c ' from 'sudo blkid ' .
[22:13] <schultza> auvajs: is that the correct UID of the hard drive?
[22:13] <Jordan_U> auvajs: NO! You were told by both Bashing-om and myself *not* to change "remount-ro" to "remount-rw". Change it back to "remount-ro".
[22:13] <schultza> ^^^
[22:13] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: auvajs ^^ can not believe I missed that ! Thanks !!
[22:13] <smemsh> hello, i have a 15.10 just installed, with package cache updated just now.  trying to figure out why i do not have a 'netcf' package ("apt-get install netcf" does not find it) even though it's shown in 'main' here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily/+source/netcf ?
[22:14] <schultza> what that errors=remout-ro does is on hard drive or filesystem errors, it will moount in readonly for you to check on the errors.
[22:14] <Jordan_U> Bashing-om: You're welcome :)
[22:14] <auvajs> Jordan_U: ok so I did as you told, now I'm rebooting the system, what's the next step?
[22:17] <auvajs> Bashing-om: what's the next step? so I rebooted in read-only system but now I can't even start networking there
[22:17] <Capso> what tools are there for Ubuntu 14.04.3 to VPN to an ikev2 server?
[22:17] <jafostes> shrew
[22:18] <jafostes> Shrew soft vpn
[22:18] <jafostes> it's good
[22:18] <Capso> how about strongSwan?
[22:19] <squinty> smemsh: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=netcf&searchon=names&suite=wily&section=all
[22:19] <Bashing-om> auvajs: As I advised .. verify that there is no change in the UUIDs - that long number sequence - compare that number is present in the ' sudo blkid ' output . Then reboot if looks good .
[22:19] <Capso> jafostes, is there an ubuntu package for it?
[22:20] <artois> hostapd, dnsmasq?
[22:20] <squinty> smemsh,  that pages says it's in the universe repo
[22:20] <auvajs> Bashing-om: I verified it, it's ok but again I booted in read-only system which sucks
[22:21] <smemsh> squinty: interesting, on this page: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily/+source/netcf under "versions published" there is: "netcf 1:0.2.6-1ubuntu1 (main)" <-- does this "main" mean it's in main repo?
[22:22] <Bashing-om> auvajs: Then I suggest that the file system is corrupt, and the system is saving it's self from destruction . A liveDVD and run a file system check .
[22:23] <smemsh> squinty: i.e. covered by following line in sources.list: "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ wily main restricted"
[22:23] <nacc> smemsh: the source package is in main, but the binary package is in universe
[22:24] <smemsh> nacc: i see, i didn't realize that was possible (source package in main, binary in universe)
[22:25] <auvajs> Bashing-om: I don't have a physical access to the computer, it's a virtual server
[22:25] <Jordan_U> auvajs: Is this a machine that you have physical access to? I ask because it appears to be a Xen guest which I would expect from a VPS.
[22:25] <auvajs> Jordan_U: yup, it's a vps
[22:25] <jafostes> hello
[22:26] <auvajs> Jordan_U: I don't have a physical access to it
[22:26] <jafostes> alternative onenote for linux?
[22:26] <nacc> smemsh: i tink it's because libvirt relies on a binary package produced by src:netcf, and so at least one of the binary packages produces by src:netcf is in main (and so the src is too)
[22:26] <nacc> smemsh: but not all the binaries are in main
[22:26] <Jordan_U> auvajs: Can you pastebin the output of "dmesg"?
[22:27] <smemsh> nacc: yes libvirt uses the netcf library to enumerate host interfaces
[22:27] <smemsh> nacc: i see now, good to know.  thanks
[22:28] <auvajs> Jordan_U: no cause I can't even connect to the vps via ssh now, I have only access to some shell via vps configuration, but I can't cp from the shell, but I can take screenshots
[22:28] <new123> does gnome 3.18 work on ubuntu?
[22:30] <auvajs> Jordan_U: but it's many pages, 15-20, what are you particularly interested in?
[22:31] <Jordan_U> auvajs: Any error messages relating to block devices or filesystems.
[22:31] <shibboleth> Will there be official RPi images for Xenial?
[22:32] <auvajs> Jordan_U: dmesg | grep "error" is enough?
[22:32] <Salo187> hi ppl! I just installed 14.04  alongside windows 8.1. Then installled the bootfix for the uefi thing. Anyone knows if I can install the BURG on top of this?
[22:33] <Salo187> and if so, is it too complicated? Thx
[22:33] <auvajs> Jordan_U: http://imgur.com/SqfThzw
[22:33] <Jordan_U> Salo187: BURG has been dead for more than 5 years. I can help you configure a grub theme though.
[22:35] <Jordan_U> auvajs: Please pastebin your current /etc/fstab.
[22:37] <auvajs> Jordan_U: http://i.imgur.com/TkXtas1.png .. I
[22:37] <A1BaTrOs> hello
[22:37] <artois> shibboleth: AIUI, the newer rpis use a newer arm version, which means no special builds are required; plain Ubuntu arm will work
[22:37] <A1BaTrOs> can anyone help me sort things out with a dual cpu system?
[22:37] <Jordan_U> auvajs: It is honestly getting frustrating to have to keep telling you that "errors=remount-rw" is wrong and should not be in your /etc/fstab. If I see it again I am giving up trying to help you.
[22:38] <artois> shibboleth: rpi 2b and greater, I think
[22:38] <artois> shibboleth: #ubuntu-arm
[22:39] <Synthead> in doing an apt-get update, the system hangs on "100% [Working]".  How can I fix this?
[22:39] <shibboleth> artois, I know. The Pi will require some specific blobs and configs in /boot (p1) and VideoCore stuff
[22:39] <artois> shibboleth: yup, it has some closed bits
[22:39] <auvajs> Jordan_U: ok sorry, at first I changed it but I tried to change it back to be able start networking so I can connect to proper ssh to the server.. I change it to remount-ro now.. sorry again
[22:40] <artois> some competitors do not, FYI
[22:40] <artois> beaglebone for one, IIRC
[22:41] <Salo187> Jordan_U: Thx what should I do then?
[22:41] <A1BaTrOs> can anyone help out with a dual cpu system?
[22:41] <Jordan_U> auvajs: Please boot again with a correct /etc/fstab and then post screenshots of any relevant looking error messages from dmesg.
[22:42] <auvajs> Jordan_U: yup but I'm unable to save the file now cause I again have read-only fs, how can I switch to read fs? mount -o rw,remount / doesn't work now
[22:43] <Jordan_U> auvajs: It's "sudo mount -o remount,rw /".
[22:44] <Synthead> in doing an apt-get update, the system hangs on "100% [Working]".  How can I fix this?
[22:44]  * Bashing-om slides Jordan_U A large cup of Columbian coffee .
[22:45]  * genii sips
[22:45] <auvajs> Jordan_U: no :( http://i.imgur.com/vYMjnb4.png
[22:48] <Jordan_U> Salo187: Does the file "/boot/grub/themes/starfield/theme.txt" exist on your system?
[22:50] <davidmichaelkarr> I could use some help using gparted to add more disk space to my ubuntu VM (no answer on #gparted).  I presently only have "/dev/sda" allocated, and I have an unallocated "/dev/sdb".  I guess the first step is creating a partition table, but I don't know what type I should use.
[22:50] <Salo187> Jordan_U: no, not even the themes folder
[22:51] <Jordan_U> auvajs: sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/xvda1 /
[22:53] <auvajs> Jordan_U: tnx, now it's errors=remount-ro so I can reboot?
[22:53] <Jordan_U> Salo187: sudo apt install grub-theme-starfield
[22:57] <auvajs> Jordan_U: so I rebooted with your instructions, here's dmesg | grep error: http://i.imgur.com/D4LBw8o.png
[22:57] <Salo187> Jordan_U: alright it installed, can i reboot straight away?
[22:58] <Jordan_U> Salo187: No. You need to configure it to be used.
[22:59] <new123> why does firefox on ubuntu has the titlebar without option of removing it, but on windows it's removed and there's an option to add or remove it?
[22:59] <Jordan_U> Salo187: Add the following line to /etc/default/grub: GRUB_THEME="/boot/grub/themes/starfield/theme.txt"
[23:00] <Revian1> new123, Difference and compatibility with the window managers?
[23:01] <Jordan_U> Salo187: Then run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical grub-pc" (assuming that this is a BIOS based installation rather than UEFI) and pastebin the output.
[23:01] <new123> Revian1 yea, but if anything, the minimalist approach of Ubuntu/Gnome should welcome no titlebar...
[23:02] <easyOnMe> need help here
[23:02] <Salo187> Jordan_U: alright you got me with that one.... how should I know? I had to go to windows UEFI, but then I also had to switch order in bios for the installation.
[23:03] <easyOnMe> I am maintaining a vps on digital ocean for some reason I got these error messages shown in this screenshot
[23:03] <easyOnMe> http://imgur.com/O059IQC
[23:03] <easyOnMe> here is the issue
[23:03] <easyOnMe> I made these terminal commands prior to sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:03] <easyOnMe> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:03] <Salo187> Jordan_U: should i run it anyway?
[23:04] <easyOnMe> then I was given a message like this
[23:04] <Jordan_U> Salo187: Run the following command "[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
[23:04] <easyOnMe> 0 updated, 0 newly added, 0 removed, 10 not upgraded
[23:04] <easyOnMe> so when I saw this I tried
[23:04] <Jordan_U> Salo187: [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
[23:04] <easyOnMe> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:04] <easyOnMe> then I got some messages asking if I want to upgrade I type Y and press enter
[23:05] <Salo187> Jordan_U: says UEFI
[23:05] <easyOnMe> then I was asked a question whether I want to proceed as the source is not verifiable I still type Y and press enter
[23:05] <Jordan_U> Salo187: OK. Have you already modified your /etc/default/grub?
[23:05] <easyOnMe> then the error message on this screen shot: http://imgur.com/O059IQC
[23:08] <OerHeks> easyOnMe, so utopic updates are not working
[23:08] <easyOnMe> OerHeks: yup
[23:09] <OerHeks> easyOnMe,  does that vpn provider supply upgraded images?
[23:09] <OerHeks> vpns are heavily tweaked, so normal upgrade should not work
[23:09] <squinty> easyOnMe, http://mirrors.digitalocean.com/ubuntu/dists/  in your web browser    as you will see there is no "utopic" directory available
[23:09] <Salo187> Jordan_U: Yes I added the line. BTW before I asked, I installed this super-boot-manager thinking it would have a noob-gui, but then i realized i didn't knew what i was doing anymore, so i stopped and didn't mess with it .
[23:10] <k1l> easyOnMe: 14.10 is shut down. upgrade to a supported release
[23:10] <OerHeks> utopic 14.10 is long time eol, use a trusty lts or wily image?
[23:10] <Salo187> Jordan_U: is it relevant or should i do something about that first?
[23:10] <easyOnMe> k1l: so what will I do not
[23:10] <Jordan_U> Salo187: I don't recommend using GUI frontends for GRUB, I don't trust any that I've tried (though I haven't tried any in years). If you haven't actually run it then it shouldn't affect anything.
[23:11] <easyOnMe> how can I check my ubuntu version using the console
[23:11] <Jordan_U> Salo187: Now run "sudo grub-install && sudo update-grub". You should see a message about it finding the theme.
[23:11] <k1l> easyOnMe: lsb_release -d
[23:11] <Ben64> easyOnMe: its a vps, you can probably get a new image on it from your vps control panel
[23:11] <k1l> easyOnMe: but if its using 14.10 (utopic) sources its a 14.10
[23:12] <Salo187> Jordan_U: I did run it, but didn't change anything.
[23:13] <Salo187> Jordan_U: alright. He says it's done
[23:13] <Jordan_U> Salo187: I don't know what it might have done then. For now let's just hope that it doesn't interfere.
[23:13] <Jordan_U> Salo187: Did it mention finding the theme?
[23:13] <k1l> easyOnMe: and if you dont want to upgrade every 6 months (which you dont want on a server) dont use non-LTS versions as a server.
[23:13] <Salo187> Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
[23:13] <Salo187> Installation finished. No error reported.
[23:13] <Salo187> Generating grub configuration file ...
[23:13] <Salo187> Found theme: /boot/grub/themes/starfield/theme.txt
[23:13] <Salo187> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.19.0-49-generic
[23:13] <Salo187> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.19.0-49-generic
[23:13] <Salo187> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.19.0-25-generic
[23:14] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | Salo187
[23:14] <easyOnMe> k1l: yes
[23:14] <easyOnMe> I understand now
[23:14] <easyOnMe> but right now what I can I do to change to 14.04 lts
[23:14] <Jordan_U> auvajs: sudo touch /forcefsck
[23:14] <easyOnMe> I was a noob back then when I started all these
[23:14] <k1l> easyOnMe: actually: your system is a security issue since 23.07.2015
[23:15] <Salo187> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15011952/
[23:15] <Jordan_U> auvajs: That should force an fsck to be performed at next boot, which will hopefully fix the filesystem errors. I hope that you also have backups of any important files on this filesystem though.
[23:15] <Salo187> sorry about that
[23:15] <k1l> easyOnMe: you cant downgrade to 14.10. you need to upgrade to 15.04 (which is dead since one week, too) and then update to 15.10. and then in 6 months update to 16.04
[23:16] <Salo187> miss-pasted
[23:16] <Salo187> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15011952/
[23:16] <k1l> easyOnMe: so i would make a clean 14.04 install, tbh.
[23:16] <easyOnMe> wow
[23:16] <easyOnMe> lo
[23:16] <easyOnMe> lol
[23:16] <easyOnMe> that is tbh
[23:16] <easyOnMe> whatis tbh
[23:16] <k1l> easyOnMe: to be honest
[23:17] <easyOnMe> k1l: ok got it
[23:17] <Jordan_U> Salo187: Great. Now reboot and you should get the Starfield theme at boot. There are also other themes available, but they're not packaged yet. To use other themes just copy the theme directory to /boot/grub/themes/ and change the line in /etc/default/grub to point to the correct theme's theme.txt .
[23:17] <auvajs> Jordan_U: I did as you told, and rebooted, but no change
[23:17] <easyOnMe> k1l: are there no other approach man
[23:17] <Salo187> Jordan_thx! brb
[23:18] <Jordan_U> auvajs: Does "ls /forcefsck" show that the file exists? (Be careful to avoid typos.
[23:18] <easyOnMe> so I have to use 14.04 lts then and have a clean droplet
[23:18] <k1l> easyOnMe: update to 15.04, then to 15.10 (and in near future to 16.04. 16.04 got 5 years support since its LTS)
[23:18] <auvajs> Jordan_U: No such file or directory
[23:19] <Jordan_U> auvajs: Did you get an error message when you ran "sudo touch /forcefsck" before?
[23:19] <auvajs> Jordan_U: no
[23:20] <Jordan_U> auvajs: Are you able to access the grub menu when the VPS boots?
[23:20] <auvajs> Jordan_U: I'm not sure
[23:20] <auvajs> Jordan_U: I'll probably get disconnected from the web console while rebooting
[23:21] <Jordan_U> auvajs: Well, you need to run fsck, and I don't know if running fsck is safe while the FS is mounted, even if it is mounted ro. Do you have backups of all important data?
[23:22] <auvajs> Jordan_U: no
[23:22] <Salo187> Jordan_U:  ok it worked. but needs to configure the resolution and reduce the boot options (3 different windows options)
[23:23] <Jordan_U> auvajs: That's not good. I would not be surprised if you have already lost or corrupted some files.
[23:24] <auvajs> Jordan_U: hm.. but now it's too late
[23:27] <Jordan_U> auvajs: Any writes you make to the filesystem could possibly damage it more. Your safest bet is to call your VPS and ask them to help you recover your files.
[23:27] <auvajs> Jordan_U: I can show you errors from journalctl -xb
[23:28] <easyOnMe> k1l: why not go straight to 16.04 lts
[23:29] <k1l> easyOnMe: that is not how ubuntu upgrades work.
[23:29] <Jordan_U> auvajs: If the files aren't that important and you want to try creating the /forcefsck file again (which has a slight chance of causing more damage but will likely get things working again if it works) then try "sudo mount -o remount,rw / && sudo touch /forcefsck && sync && sudo mount -o remount,ro / && systemctl reboot".
[23:29] <Seminarian> Does having multiple workspaces enabled have an effect on gaming performance?
[23:29] <k1l> easyOnMe: you can only got LTS -> LTS which is 14.04 to 16.04. but you choose 14.10. so that is the rootcause
[23:29] <easyOnMe> k1l: what is the difference between distros that has .04 and .10 in them
[23:29] <auvajs> Jordan_U: http://imgur.com/a/QcUKW if it helps
[23:30] <k1l> easyOnMe: the month when it was released
[23:30] <easyOnMe> k1l: like I admitted I was a noob back then
[23:30] <easyOnMe> k1l: so you mean they are essentially the same distros
[23:30] <Jordan_U> auvajs: 404 not found
[23:30] <k1l> easyOnMe: year 2014. 4th month makes it 14.04. 2014 10th month makes it 14.10.  every 2 years its a LTS (12.04, 14.04,16.04)
[23:31] <easyOnMe> I thought those with .04 are always on lts while those .10 do not have any lts
[23:31] <Braybaut> easyOnMe, 04 = april 10 = october, 14.04 is LTS has support extend
[23:31] <easyOnMe> k1l: oh now I know
[23:31] <k1l> easyOnMe: they all have a different state of program versions. and have differences like systemd was made standard since 15.04
[23:31] <easyOnMe> man are there no os that has say 10 years lts
[23:32] <Seminarian> Thats interesting about the months thx
[23:32] <Seminarian> makes me wonder why im on 14 04
[23:32] <auvajs> Jordan_U: http://imgur.com/A8xiAYT http://imgur.com/e3yToST http://imgur.com/PtetORO http://imgur.com/l17JjcJ http://imgur.com/QVFhKVZ
[23:32] <easyOnMe> k1l: but your info is really educational for me now
[23:32] <k1l> easyOnMe: just stay on LTS. so make a clean 14.04 LTS intsall. that got 5 years from the start, still more than 3 years now
[23:33] <easyOnMe> k1l: yup
[23:33] <easyOnMe> but is there a way to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 without having to reinstall everything like start from scratch again
[23:33] <k1l> easyOnMe: yes
[23:33] <easyOnMe> because those reinstallations can kill
[23:34] <easyOnMe> you have to define ssh
[23:34] <easyOnMe> install firewall
[23:34] <k1l> that is the "LTS upgrade". it is from 14.04 to 16.04 (when the 16.04.1 (first servicepack) is released)
[23:34] <easyOnMe> those are mundane tasks alreay man
[23:34] <Jordan_U> auvajs: Call your VPS host and ask them to help you recover the data, or help you boot from a LiveCD iso/rescue system/etc.
[23:34] <easyOnMe> k1l: so you mean I do not have to reinstall
[23:35] <auvajs> Jordan_U: and what's the cause of the issue, any idea?
[23:35] <k1l> easyOnMe: you can still upgrade to 15.04, then to 15.10 any have to upgrade in the next 3 months to 16.04. but that is a lot more effort than make a clean proper 14.04 install now.
[23:35] <Braybaut> k1l, using disk-upgrade
[23:35] <easyOnMe> but if 14.04 and 14.10 are the same versions how can I not upgrade to 16.04 then
[23:35] <k1l> Braybaut: no. not on ubuntu
[23:35] <Jordan_U> auvajs: No idea.
[23:36] <k1l> easyOnMe: no. they are not the same!
[23:36] <auvajs> Jordan_U: I just rebooted today, and the reboot failed.. didn't do any changes to the system lately
[23:36] <easyOnMe> k1l: if I made a new install of 14.04 and want to upgrade to 16.04 without having to reinstall again
[23:36] <easyOnMe> what is the terminal command to do that
[23:36] <Braybaut> k1l,  view that https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-12-04-lts-to-ubuntu-14-04-lts the process is similar!!
[23:36] <k1l> easyOnMe: there is no way than the 2 i showed you: reinstall to 14.04 or upgrade step by step to 15.04, 15.10 and 16.04 in 3 months
[23:36] <Salo187> Jordan_U: can i change the Resolution on the Grub file on etc/default?
[23:37] <k1l> easyOnMe: yes. i explained you now 3 times. that you can do the online upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04
[23:37] <k1l> easyOnMe: but you cant go directly to 16.04 from your 14.10 now.
[23:38] <Braybaut> k1l, this process is similar from 14.04 to 16.04 https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-12-04-lts-to-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[23:38] <Jordan_U> Salo187: Yes, GRUB_GFXMODE : http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Simple-configuration
[23:39] <Seminarian> Hey guys, Does having multiple workspaces enabled have an effect on gaming performance?
[23:39] <k1l> easyOnMe: its the same command as you use from 14.10 to 15.04. the difference is the version you are on.
[23:40] <zquad> I installed php + nginx where the hell does php store its logs?
[23:40] <zquad> :)
[23:41] <Braybaut> zquad, where logs of php and nginx ?
[23:42] <auvajs> Jordan_U: I think I'll risk it and try to do the force fs check
[23:42] <k1l> easyOnMe: to make it more clear: you always need to upgrade to the next version: 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04 -> 15.10 -> 16.04   | except when you are on 14.04 you can overtake to the next LTS 16.04. but since you are on 14.10 you cant "overtake".
[23:43] <easyOnMe> k1l: ok noted with thanks man
[23:43] <easyOnMe> this is just a bit tiresome though
[23:44] <easyOnMe> but good that you got me educated on these different version and the process of upgrading them
[23:44] <easyOnMe> k1l: one more thing
[23:44] <k1l> easyOnMe: so now you can do the online update to 15.04, then to 15.10 and in 3 months to 16.04. | or you make a clean new 14.04 install. and can upgrade when you want to 16.04 later.
[23:44] <Braybaut> esde_, the process is iqual in normal versions or LTS versions
[23:45] <Salo187> Jordan_U: Ok thx. And how about reducing the options on the grub itself?
[23:45] <Salo187> Jordan_U: I think one for Ubuntu, one for windows and one for a command line would be enough?
[23:45] <easyOnMe> from 14.04 and want to upgrade to 16.04, using the command you gave or the tutorial link given the existing configuration will remain the same despite the new version right
[23:46] <easyOnMe> I mean those ssh keys, firewall settings, ftp settings and all
[23:46] <k1l> easyOnMe: yes
[23:46] <easyOnMe> including apache server, mysql server and what not
[23:46] <k1l> easyOnMe: they do on every online update. not only on the LTS update.
[23:47] <easyOnMe> k1l: just to make myself clear and check if I understood what you said in your reply
[23:47] <easyOnMe> when I reinstall a new 14.04 and configure everything again
[23:48] <k1l> easyOnMe: but there are still things that can go wrong. due to your settings beeing not compatible with the new version. so that is why servers tend to use LTS and are not updated every 6 months
[23:48] <easyOnMe> those configuration I set when I reinstall 14.04 will remain the same should I upgrade to 16.04 later on
[23:49] <easyOnMe> k1l: ok like what are those things that can go wrong just an example
[23:49] <easyOnMe> as I am only worried about ssh keys, firewall, ftp settings, apache server, mysql server and php server
[23:49] <k1l> easyOnMe: that depends on your exact settings
[23:49] <easyOnMe> that is all
[23:50] <k1l> so if your website has some fancy setting for a guestbook, that might not work with the new apache version. or such.
[23:50] <easyOnMe> k1l: oh gladly I do not have those as of now
[23:51] <easyOnMe> k1l:so 16.04 is not yet available then
[23:51] <k1l> so if you want to be very sure: make a exact copy in a VM and test the upgrade before you do it on the real server. that is what admins do
[23:51] <k1l> easyOnMe: 16.04 is not released. since its not the 4th month in year 2016
[23:51] <auvajs> Jordan_U: it seems the force fsck didn't run this time either
[23:51] <auvajs> Jordan_U: even after using the command you wrote before
[23:51] <ikonia> easyOnMe: you can't manage a stable release - do not consider a pre-release distribution
[23:52] <easyOnMe> ikonia: you mean do the upgrade later
[23:52] <easyOnMe> once I did 14.04
[23:52] <giacomo1992> Hello is it possible to install ubuntu mobile on a huawei phone ?
[23:52] <Braybaut> easyOnMe, is possible present problems of depends, is best use LTS Versions
[23:52] <ikonia> easyOnMe: why are you considering an upgrade ?
[23:52] <genii> giacomo1992: A better place to ask is #ubuntu-touch
[23:52] <ikonia> easyOnMe: why do you need an upgrade / what benifit will an upgrade give you in your current needs ?
[23:52] <k1l> easyOnMe: wait for 16.04.1 getting released before you think about the upgrade
[23:53] <easyOnMe> ikonia: because I am worried that my existing 14.04 might be incompatible with new versions of the lamp stack technology
[23:53] <easyOnMe> k1l: ok
[23:53] <ikonia> easyOnMe: what new versions of the lamp stack ?
[23:53] <easyOnMe> that makes it clear
[23:53] <ikonia> easyOnMe: what are you worried won't be compatible ?
[23:53] <ikonia> why do you feel the need to even consider a move from 14.04
[23:53] <easyOnMe> ikonia: mysql version, apache version, php version
[23:53] <Braybaut> giacomo1992, not :c https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[23:54] <ikonia> easyOnMe: if you stay on 14.04 - they won't change
[23:54] <k1l> easyOnMe: 14.04 is supported until april 2019.
[23:54] <ikonia> easyOnMe: so why are you considering an upgrade
[23:54] <easyOnMe> ikonia: ok but now the one in digital ocean is on that 14.10
[23:54] <ikonia> you struggle to manage your current machine, why are you even thinking about a change
[23:54] <easyOnMe> which is sickening as I can not make a dist-upgrade work for the mysql part
[23:54] <ikonia> easyOnMe: so you're using 14.10 now ?
[23:54] <ikonia> "the mysql part" ???
[23:55] <easyOnMe> ikonia: see my earlier message it contains a screen shot
[23:55] <k1l> easyOnMe: that was a mistake. install 14.04. make a proper setup there.
[23:55] <easyOnMe> k1l: yup
[23:55] <easyOnMe> I will do it later
[23:55] <k1l> ikonia: he installed a 14.10 not knowing about support frames and upgrade pathts
[23:55] <easyOnMe> I need to rest now
[23:56] <ikonia> k1l: right, so all the repos are dead, I don't understand the "mysql part" statement ?
[23:56] <easyOnMe> geez I've got a lot to learn
[23:56] <easyOnMe> thanks so much k1l
[23:56] <easyOnMe> I learned a lot from you today man
[23:56] <ikonia> easyOnMe: pretty much every problem you have in this channel is of your own making - rushing in with incorrect info
[23:56] <easyOnMe> good thing I stumble on that knowledge now than later
[23:56] <k1l> ikonia: honestly. that doesnt matter.
[23:57] <k1l> easyOnMe: it was already too late since your machine is a security issue since july 2015.
[23:57] <easyOnMe> k1l: is it possible to upgrade it to 15.04
[23:57] <easyOnMe> never mind it is a lot more work
[23:57] <easyOnMe> ok work on 14.04 then
[23:57] <ikonia> 15.04 is dead too
[23:57] <k1l> easyOnMe: yes. ike i explained now 10times
[23:57] <easyOnMe> thanks man
[23:58] <ikonia> hence "your own making, rushing in with incorrect info"
[23:58] <easyOnMe> ikonia: chill man
[23:58] <ikonia> I am
[23:58] <easyOnMe> I got some learning here already
[23:58] <ikonia> easyOnMe: yeah, but you've been in here for months with the same problems over and over and over
[23:58] <easyOnMe> next time I ask first before doing anything
[23:59] <easyOnMe> ikonia: I am switching career into IT
[23:59] <ikonia> so ?
[23:59] <easyOnMe> I am a teacher by profession and training
[23:59] <easyOnMe> IT is so new to me
[23:59] <ikonia> so ?
[23:59] <easyOnMe> hence I am here
[23:59] <easyOnMe> learning each day
[23:59] <ikonia> if you're a teacher you should be able to read/listen


[01:22] <asd> hi, so i have a problem with booting up on xubuntu(latest version), i log in it and then display only outpud is a picture that looks like broken monitor
[01:23] <asd> btw im in recovery mod and it works fine (exept resolution is lower and i cant set it up higher)
[01:25] <darshan> ohai
[01:26] <asd> can somebody help me?
[01:45] <fibz_> ?
[05:31] <xubuntu554> hello. i have been reading about my problem with screen tearing in firefox, flash and vlc, and have come up with multiple solutions, which are: sync to vblank (as per webupd8 instructions here: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/xfce-sync-to-vblank-support-for-xfwm.html) a ppa to xfwm 4.11 as here (http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/xfwm4-4110-released-with-sync-to-vblank.html) and ppa for compton (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t
[05:31] <xubuntu554> which one of these is the most viable solution?
[05:33] <Unit193> xubuntu554: Xfwm4 is something that comes with Xubuntu, while compton is something that doesn't but supports other compositing effects.
[05:34] <xubuntu554> yep, i know, that's why i'm asking, i'm not sure what people's experience with compton is
[05:35] <Unit193> I don't need the special effects really, so I don't use it.  It's really up to you though.
[06:28] <xubuntu520> hi
[06:29] <xubuntu520> i have problems with ubuntu software center
[06:30] <xubuntu520> it opens but it dissapears after 3 seconds
[06:31] <xubuntu520> help
[06:34] <pero> is there any reason at all to even have software center? if not, is it possible and harmless to remove?
[06:37] <elfy> entirely possible to remove it and it's harmless - I use synaptic - but that's a different  question :)
[06:51] <pero> elfy: are you sure? apt-get remove software-center also requires uninstalling xfce-desktop
[06:52] <elfy> yep - it will, but that's just a meta-package - removing ANY of the default packages referred to by xubuntu-desktop will do that
[06:52] <elfy> because at that point you don't have 'xubuntu-desktop' basically :)
[06:53] <pero> but...that's not 'harmless' anymore is it
[06:53] <pero> wouldnt there be sideeffects to doing that?
[06:54] <elfy> there used to be I think when upgrading to next version, but afaik it's a non-issue now
[06:55] <pero> i've earlier deleted some default, yet non-integral packages - xchat, transmission, games - and they didnt ask me to remove the desktop package
[06:56] <pero> just poof'd gmusicbrowser too
[06:56] <elfy> ok
[06:56] <elfy> but - my point remains - removing xubuntu-desktop along with a package you are removing is not an issue
[06:57] <pero> k
[06:57] <pero> thx
[06:57] <elfy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/126390/is-it-safe-to-remove-ubuntu-desktop-package
[06:57] <elfy> for ubuntu read xubuntu/lubuntu/kubuntu
[07:02] <pero> well, nothing blew up
[07:03] <elfy> ;)
[07:07] <Unit193> I've been 'missing' that package for a long time.  It's simply a meta, just depends on others.
[07:08] <elfy> yep - it's been installed on my systems for only as long as it takes to start synaptic since a long time
[08:46] <ahren> Hi I am wondering what is the lightest xubuntu ubuntu i have an older laptop
[08:47] <ahren> also i installed both xubuntu and ubuntu together do i need to uninstall ubuntu to make sure the system is not bloated or should i reinstall xubuntu
[08:50] <Unit193> What's the system specs?
[08:51] <ahren> acer aspire 5517 laptop 3gb ram
[09:28] <loz1> hi, mouse scroll does not work in evince and works in all other programs, is there any fix for it?
[09:42] <ochosi> loz1: there is a bug with gtk3 and scrolling in xubuntu 13.10, i can't remember the solution to that though now :/
[09:49] <loz1> ochosi: i found GDK_CORE_DEVICE_EVENTS=1, how can i set this var system-wide?
[09:49] <ochosi> try "export GDK_CORE_DEVICE_EVENTS=1"
[09:50] <loz1> i mean exporting in my .zshrc does not help when other apps (browsers, etc) run evince
[09:50] <ochosi> if it works then, create a session startup item that executes that line
[09:50] <ochosi> not sure about that tbh
[09:51] <ochosi> you can possibly integrate that var in session loading somehoow
[09:51] <ochosi> but as i've never done this myself, i'd also have to google it ;)
[09:51] <loz1> ochosi: hm, did you fixed that bug in your system?
[09:52] <ochosi> nope, somehow i don't have that bug
[09:52] <ochosi> i've only heard about it
[10:08] <Unit193> ochosi: Overlay scrollbars?
[10:09] <ochosi> Unit193: is it only connected to overlay-scrollbars? i couldn't remember...
[10:09] <ochosi> loz1: ^
[10:09] <ochosi> loz1: so in case you're using the overlay-scrollbars, probably stop using them ;)
[10:21] <loz1> what
[10:21] <loz1> how?)
[12:48] <Meerkat> is there any ETA on the volume button fix on 13.10?
[12:59] <Meerkat> oh, never mind. Fix was released 20 hours ago. :)
[13:08] <bingo> hello. I would like to reset XFCE back to default icon placement on the taskbar and everywhere else. Start over fresh, can this be done? Thank you.
[13:10] <koegs_> bingo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/224006/resetting-xfce-panels-to-default-settings
[13:10] <koegs_> or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels
[13:57] <bingo> ty koegs
[14:07] <Meerkat> there should be a button :p
[14:10] <bingo> hello again. What is the name of the app i add to taskbar to choose wifi netowkr list/
[14:11] <bingo> network*
[14:11] <Meerkat> indicator plugin
[14:11] <bingo> i just see envelope
[14:12] <Meerkat> you might need to login again
[14:13] <bingo> ty
[14:13] <bingo> i try
[14:17] <bingo> no that did not work after a relog. I do not see a way to choose wifi networks
[14:21] <Meerkat> bingo, you add the indicator plugin to the panel. Is that what you mean by 'taskbar'?
[14:21] <bingo> yes. i added but i only see volume and envelope
[14:21] <bingo> when i do
[14:27] <bingo> would a restart solve it? i already logged in and out and it did not work
[14:28] <Meerkat> I found this http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.se/2013/04/solved-network-icon-missing-from-xfces.html
[14:28] <Meerkat> does it help?
[14:28] <bingo> i check, ty
[14:33] <bingo> i am so silly, i removed it from startup this why it gone. sorry to waste your time but ty
[15:53] <xubuntu070> Whenever I try to watch a dvd, xubuntu opens the File Manager rather than autoplaying with parole or vlc
[16:04] <ke1v3y> Hello
[16:05] <ke1v3y> I had a question I was hoping that someone could provide some insight into.
[16:07] <Nyankiyoshi> Yes ? ^^
[16:07] <Nyankiyoshi> !ask
[16:07] <ke1v3y> I apologize; first time on IRC for Xubuntu :)
[16:08] <ke1v3y> So I'm running 12.04 and experiencing vertical lines on many icons across all programs. I'm guessing it is related to my graphics card, but I was hoping to find some resolution.
[16:14] <ke1v3y> The PC is an old Compaq Presario 6010US, with an equally old AMD AGP graphics card.
[16:19] <ke1v3y> This is what it looks like: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-01072014-111129am.php
[16:35] <kRush> try turning window compositor on/off. settings >> window mngr tweaks
[18:26] <Emopunk> good evening !
[19:59] <ROPA> xubuntu520 are you using 13.10???
[20:12] <junka> after a fresh install of saucy
[20:12] <junka> and installed all updates and reboot
[20:13] <junka> the volume is still broken
[20:15] <junka> mayday mayday
[20:25] <holstein> junka: the "volume"? like, you cant control the audio volume? how are you trying?
[20:25] <junka> the volume icon panel
[20:25] <junka> is still broken
[20:26] <holstein> junka: let us know if you have a question
[20:27] <junka> i have
[20:27] <junka> launchpad says it has been fixed
[20:27] <junka> but its obviously not
[20:37] <junka> ah synaptic has the updates that the new ubuntu update policy about 10% blah blah blah
[20:38] <Meerkat> junka, if it is 13.10 the fix for that was released yesterday
[20:38] <junka> got it
[20:38] <Meerkat> junka, you have to logout and login again for it to load the new code
[20:38] <junka> let see ten
[20:38] <junka> then
[21:54] <hardboot> Running 14.04 with xfce, working fine, fewer issues than unity, although unity has had a lot of changes
[23:30] <xubuntu500> test
[23:31] <xubuntu500> any know how to get drop box to be in those little menus' - copy public link
[23:31] <xubuntu500> answer me dangit do you know who i am?
[23:31] <holstein> xubuntu500: ?
[23:32] <holstein> xubuntu500: i use the web portal for that.. or i install a plugin for the filemanager im using, if one is available
[23:32] <xubuntu782> any one know how to get drop box on those little drop downs - copy public link
[23:32] <holstein> xubuntu500: i use the web portal for that.. or i install a plugin for the filemanager im using, if one is available .. xubuntu782