[19:24] <snowdonkey> Hi.  My Gateway ML6720 laptop has a Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 graphics card that's supposed to use the "i810" drivers, however X fails to start.  I get the warning "I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1)".  Here's my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/m4b09751
[19:24] <genii> thecrono: Just the ones which have actually fglrx in the name for now
[19:25] <thecrono> well fglrx has 4 results, none installed.hows that?
[19:25] <genii> thecrono: Thats fine then. So exit the package manager
[19:26] <thecrono> i did: sudo apt-get install build-essential fakeroot dh-make debhelper debconf libstdc++5 dkms
[19:26] <thecrono> and its going
[19:26] <thecrono> it still wants my gibbon cdrom
[19:26] <thecrono> :/
[19:26] <thecrono> i don't have a gibbon cdrom
[19:26] <genii> thecrono: So then hit ctrl-c to interrupt it
[19:27] <psycose>  hello, i tried to install the KDE env. from a Kubuntu live CD on a Ubuntu OS. (all gutsy) i did not succeed using apt-cdrom ...!! Some says it would work if i use an alternate Kubuntu CD . Is this info accurate ? thanks
[19:27] <thecrono> trial and error psycose
[19:27] <thecrono> try the alternate then ask
[19:27] <genii> thecrono: cat  /etc/apt/sources.list            and put the reults of that into pastebin please
[19:27] <thecrono> :D
[19:27] <riyaadh> hey all, im very new to kubuntu...i would like to ask where i can find desktop themes and how do i install it?
[19:27] <genii> !paste
[19:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:28] <genii> !theme
[19:28] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[19:28] <riyaadh> awesme! thanks
[19:28] <thecrono> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53207/
[19:29] <genii> thecrono: Reading
[19:29] <thecrono> Ma Salaam riyaadh
[19:29] <thecrono> k
[19:29] <psycose> thecrono: please excuse me, i want to ask before try, that is the power of the knowledge... if you don't know don't answer ;-)
[19:29] <thecrono> np, thouhg, i don't know the answer
[19:29] <thecrono> maby genii does
[19:30] <genii> thecrono: Put a # at the beginning of line 6   open it with:    sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:30] <genii> thecrono: Then after putting the # ctrl-x then Y then Enter
[19:30] <thecrono> they need to get a universe copy/paste hotkey...each program i have uses a diffrent method of copy/paste..and none work together
[19:31] <genii> psycose: Yes, the alternate or dvd can be used as a mini-repository with apt-cdrom   but not the usual one since the livecd part takes too much room on the cd
[19:32] <thecrono> y
[19:32] <thecrono> its downlaoding now..appears to have worked
[19:32] <genii> thecrono: Good, finally we are progressing
[19:32] <thecrono> yay!
[19:33] <psycose> genii: thanks for your response !!!
[19:33] <thecrono> i am doing this and wanting compiz, bnecause i want to start leanring code so i can change the KDe layout drasticly..starting with python
[19:33] <genii> psycose: Anytime
[19:33] <thecrono> already have an idea i want to try...even though i know jack about python lol
[19:33] <genii> thecrono: Work needs me a minute or three but I'll be around. If you get hung up on the tutorial wait til i get back and we'll go rom there
[19:34] <thecrono> ok
[19:37] <Vermux> is there a bug in the graphics when uploading the gusty live dvd?
[19:39] <Guits> Hi all Iam new to linux and tryig stuff....
[19:39] <genii> thecrono: OK, back. Any progress?
[19:39] <Guits> sometimes everything hangs
[19:40] <Guits> is there some keys to press to get out of it?
[19:40] <genii> Vermux: Depends on the video card. i810 don't like vesa driver for instance
[19:40] <Limbeaux> is there a kde mail client similar to evolution that will connect to an ms exchange server?
[19:41] <genii> Guits: If it's a graphical app freezing try ctrl-alt-esc then put it on frozen window and click
[19:41] <genii> Guits: If in commandline try ctrl-c
[19:41] <Guits> the whole desktop  freezez
[19:41] <Guits> but the mouse
[19:42] <genii> Guits: when you do ctrl-alt-esc   you should get a big X or a skull and crossbones for the cursor which will kill any window you put it on. so if a certain window is freezing things this will close it forcibly
[19:43] <genii> thecrono: Alive over there?
[19:43] <thecrono> um yeah
[19:44] <Guits> i have tried that but no big x
[19:44] <thecrono> was talking about how the grizzly man was eaten :O
[19:44] <thecrono> how do i create deb packages?
[19:45] <genii> thecrono: Ah, that nut who went to go live with them, yeah
[19:45] <thecrono> is that the: sh ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/gutsy    command?
[19:45] <genii> thecrono: Yes
[19:45] <thecrono> he shoulda had a gun
[19:45] <thecrono> him and his girl friend were eaten
[19:45] <genii> thecrono: use bash instead of sh there hwever
[19:45] <thecrono> by the very bear they were talking about a few days before
[19:45] <thecrono> bash atiblah blah>?
[19:46] <genii> thecrono: Exactly, yes
[19:46] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: probably want to put a sudo on that
[19:46] <thecrono> thecrono@Neckron-Ninty-Nine:~$ bash ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/gutsy
[19:46] <thecrono> bash: ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run: No such file or directory
[19:47] <thecrono> i did the previous step and it went back to the prompted
[19:47] <thecrono> i asume it was done?
[19:47] <genii> thecrono: Are you in the same dir you downloaded ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86.run   into?
[19:47] <thecrono> ah, i need to downlaod it
[19:48] <thecrono> haven'rt dl it yet
[19:48] <thecrono> its in /home/technical/
[19:48] <thecrono> how do i point it there?
[19:48]  * genii slaps thecrono lightly on the wrist
[19:48] <thecrono> //home/technical/  *
[19:48] <thecrono> three slashes
[19:48] <thecrono> not two
[19:48] <thecrono> w/e anyways lol
[19:49] <thecrono> itas downlaoded
[19:49] <genii> thecrono: You downloaded the file to a network drive ?
[19:49] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: cd /home/technical"
[19:49] <genii> nvm
[19:49] <thecrono> no,to /home/
[19:49] <genii> thecrono: Ah, then:  cd ~
[19:49] <thecrono> oh yeah, i got a question, i was looking at my partitions, and ti said two were disabled....
[19:49] <thecrono> and it said they were locked
[19:49] <thecrono> couldn't enable them
[19:49] <genii> thecrono: One thing at a time :)
[19:50] <thecrono> now what?
[19:50] <genii> thecrono: does:  ls                    show the right file there?
[19:50] <thecrono> thecrono@Neckron-Ninty-Nine:~$ ls
[19:50] <thecrono> Desktop  Emulators  Technical
[19:51] <thecrono> already got my emulators on there :D
[19:51] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: you need to "cd Technical" and yes, linux is case sensitve
[19:52] <thecrono> one quick question..is there anyway to make xchat black background with white letters...its hurting my eyes with whtie bakcground rgey l;etters
[19:54] <genii> nosrednaekim: Odd that cd ~ would dump in /home and not /home/name
[19:54] <nosrednaekim> woah... thats odd
[19:54] <thecrono> err..oen sec..blakc text black background
[19:54] <Mediapirate|AWAY> Is ther an inbuilt firewell in linux?
[19:55] <thecrono> ok, its good
[19:55] <tekteen> Mediapirate: yes
[19:55] <tekteen> Mediapirate: it is called iptables
[19:55] <tekteen> !firewall
[19:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[19:55] <thecrono> i installed that appl btw
[19:55] <tekteen> I sugg. guard dog
[19:56] <oem> HI everybody!
[19:56] <genii> thecrono: So the directory Technical is actually located globally someplace like /home/yourusername/Technical          ?
[19:56] <thecrono> its /home/technical/
[19:56] <thecrono> nothign is above home
[19:56] <thecrono> er, well, system stuff is
[19:57] <thecrono> like etc, src etc etc
[19:57] <oem> I have just installed Kubuntu on my laptop and I ve forgot the adm passwd i ve set. is there any way to reset it or will i have to reinstall everythiing?
[19:57] <genii> thecrono: You have a user whose login name is "technical"
[19:57] <genii> ?
[19:57] <thecrono> no
[19:57] <thecrono> thecrono is the only user
[19:57] <thecrono> i created the folder technical
[19:57] <thecrono> for..technical stuff
[19:57] <thecrono> instead of throwing it onto /home/
[19:58] <Mediapirate> How do i forward a port in linux firewall? or isn't it that sorta firewall
[19:58] <thecrono> kdesu kate /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[19:59] <thecrono> that next right?
[19:59] <thecrono> to blacklist old drivers
[19:59] <oem> Pliz Help me guyss!!
[19:59] <genii> thecrono: Hmm. OK. at any rate, go into the directory the ati file is at. like:    cd Technical              if it showed there when you did the  ls     commmand
[19:59] <thecrono> 1 .run 1.changes. and 4.debs
[20:00] <thecrono> if it showed there?
[20:00] <thecrono> do you want me to copypasta?
[20:00] <oem> I cant remember the adm passwd i ve set how can I reset a new one.
[20:00] <thecrono> ouch oem
[20:00] <nosrednaekim> !root | oem
[20:00] <ubotu> oem: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[20:00] <thecrono> there is no spoon
[20:00] <nosrednaekim> oem: well, you can do "sudo passwd root"
[20:02] <thecrono> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53211/
[20:02] <thecrono> genii
[20:02] <bbm4n> hello does anyone knows a walkaround ktorrent error "error reading past the end of file?"
[20:03] <oem> actually I am not looking for the root pauz ifd sswd but the passwd for my account "oem". Cauz I cant do anything without it, no update, or activation of restricted drivers etC...
[20:03] <earthcreed> bbm4n: I had to many errors with ktorrent,  I went to bittornado, no gui.
[20:03] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: looks good
 thanks :) i will do the same i suppose
[20:04] <thecrono> fglrx has been blacklisted
[20:05] <oem> even and even if I do "passwd oem" it ask me the current passwd
[20:05] <thecrono> getit command not found???
[20:06] <jpatrick> thecrono: "kate"
[20:06] <jpatrick> !editors > thecrono
[20:06] <thecrono> sudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-restricted   <-----that isntead?
[20:06] <nosrednaekim> oem: ah... then do a chroot from a liveCD
[20:07] <earthcreed> oem: or boot into single user mode.
[20:07] <thecrono> hrm, it said put a # infront of blacklist-restricted..but..the file is empty
[20:07] <earthcreed> oem: sulogin is patched to let you in as root.
[20:07] <jpatrick> !kdesudo | thecrono
[20:07] <ubotu> thecrono: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[20:08] <thecrono> i know
[20:08] <thecrono> You may also need to edit the file (if it exists):
[20:08] <thecrono> sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-restricted
[20:08] <thecrono> Put a # in front of the line "blacklist fglrx", if it is present. Otherwise, the kernel module will not load automatically, and you will not get 3D acceleration.
[20:08] <thecrono> that file is empty
[20:09] <earthcreed> oem: when you reboot your computer follow these instructions
[20:09] <earthcreed> oem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53212/
[20:09] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: from what I remember, the file is actually /etc/default/linux-restricted-common
[20:10] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: this is the ati installer right?
[20:10] <earthcreed> oem: Then reset the password for your user.
[20:10] <thecrono> i'm doing the manual install of the new drivers
[20:10] <val0> hey, do you guys/gals know what the big difference between the restricted Nvidia driver that comes with ubuntu and the one you d/l from the nvidia site? I've noticed that with the restricted driver that I get from ubuntu I can't detect my monitor properly and that it doesn't come with the Nvidia config manager
[20:10] <thecrono> yes
[20:10] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: right.... well then the file I just mentionedis the correct one
[20:10] <earthcreed> val0: Nvidia's drivers are usually newer.
[20:11] <thecrono> k
[20:11] <oem> Thanks earthcreed. I am goingg to try that!!
[20:11] <ibou> when i try to configure the opengl driver on the xine motor of kaffeine, i have an error message: impossible to initialize the new video driver opengl
[20:11] <thecrono> that file is empty also
[20:11] <thecrono> maby its jsut doesn't exit
[20:11] <thecrono> :D
[20:12] <genii> thecrono: Sorry for lag, boss needed me right away to help unload some stuff outside, no time to type out why here, etc
[20:12] <earthcreed> oem: remember to reset your user password it is passwd <username> e.g. passwd oem
[20:12] <BluesKaj> dunno about nvidia's new drivers but ati's recommended new drivers don't work very well...the default restricted driver is much better on my setup
[20:12] <thecrono> genii, i'm at : sudo dpkg -i xorg-driver-fglrx_8.452.1-1*.deb fglrx-kernel-source_8.452.1-1*.deb fglrx-amdcccle_8.452.1-1*.deb
[20:12] <thecrono> doing that now
[20:12] <val0> earthcreed thanks... also, would you think that the difference in drivers could affect the way plain text is displayed? I have this giant 28" monitor and using anything in text mode is painfull... can't tell the difference between m and m, letters all "bleed" together
[20:12] <genii> thecrono: If blacklist-restricted isn't there in modprobe.d just continue to next step
[20:13] <genii> thecrono: Good :)
[20:13] <ibou> do someone can help about my opengl issue ?
[20:13] <nosrednaekim> ibou: whats the problem?
[20:13] <ibou> when i try to configure the opengl driver on the xine motor of kaffeine, i have an error message: impossible to initialize the new video driver opengl
[20:13] <Limbeaux> i asked earlier but had to walk away.  Is there a KDE equivelent to Evolution?  i need to connect to an exchange server
[20:13] <jussi01> !repeat | ibou
[20:13] <ubotu> ibou: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[20:13] <snikker> someone has vmware working on gutsy?
[20:14] <jussi01> ibou: my apologies, didnt see you were asked
[20:14] <thecrono> it says loading... then it goes to prompt..does that mean its done?
[20:14] <nosrednaekim> ibou: is kaffiene working fine anyway?
[20:14] <ibou> jussi01: no problem
[20:14] <jussi01> :)
[20:14] <thecrono> is it safe to asume that if i see prompt what ever my previous command inputted..is complete?
[20:14] <genii> thecrono: Yes.
[20:15] <nosrednaekim> Limbeaux: yes, kmail enterprise edition does support exchange (I think)
[20:15] <ibou> nosrednaekim: yes but i can't read somme mms flux on the web
[20:15] <thecrono> btw, konqurer is horrible at displaying webpages properly
[20:15] <genii> thecrono: So onto the part Configuring The Driver" but you must reboot first
[20:15] <thecrono> text is overlaping text and buttons are all messed up
[20:16] <thecrono> rebooting
[20:16] <nosrednaekim> ibou: thats probably not a problem with opengl
[20:16] <ibou> nosrednaekim: yes i think so too
[20:17] <nosrednaekim> ibou: go into the kaffiene and set the video driver or more or whatever to "auto" instead of opengl then
[20:17] <ibou> nosrednaekim: but i should be able to set the opengl driver since i set it up on my last ubuntu installation
[20:17] <ibou> nosrednaekim: ok
[20:22] <v0ltag3> привет линуксоидам)
[20:22] <BluesKaj> !ru | v0ltag3
[20:22] <ubotu> v0ltag3: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[20:22] <v0ltag3> ok o_O
[20:25] <thecrono> i got the catalyst control panel...what else?..configure like normal?
[20:25] <earthcreed> val0: Sorry had to step away for a bit, hrm. . . pick a different text mode?  I can't help much there.
[20:26] <thecrono> everythign seems to run fine genii
[20:27] <val0> earthcreed no worries... it's just when i install the nvidia one everything crashes and burns... the very first time I installed the nvidia driver from nvidia everything worked great... but the last two times it does something to X that destroys it I think... After reboot it hangs everytime
[20:27] <giuseppe> where for question on quanta?
[20:27] <thecrono> yes, i believe we have liftoff
[20:27] <genii> thecrono: Good :)
[20:27] <thecrono> now um...about my disabled paritions
[20:28] <thecrono> how can i borwse diffrent partitions? lol
[20:28] <thecrono> i'm not understanding this..it says my 50mb /home/ partition is disabled
[20:28] <genii> thecrono: Someone else will need to assist there for now, I am being called back and forth to work right now
[20:28] <thecrono> ok
[20:29] <thecrono> one question, is there a rpogram i can use that shows me all system information, and specificly my HD and its partitions
[20:29] <thecrono> and how much is used/etc
[20:29] <thecrono> on each
[20:29] <BluesKaj> !ua
[20:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ua - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:29] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: df
[20:30] <BluesKaj> !ukraine
[20:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ukraine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:30] <thecrono> df?
[20:30] <thecrono> somethign not a console command?
[20:30] <BluesKaj> !info ukraine
[20:30] <ubotu> Package ukraine does not exist in gutsy
[20:30] <BluesKaj> hehe
[20:31] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: lol.... enter "sysinfo:/" in konqueror... that should give you some info
[20:31] <home_> hello can any one tell me how to change the keyboard layoout for the login screen fro, qwertz to azerty?
[20:31] <Mediapirate|AWAY> What do i use to extract a passworded rar file?
[20:32] <thecrono> how can i amke konqurer my default system vbrowsers instead of doplphin, and fire fox mydefault net rbwoser?
[20:32] <BluesKaj> I suspect that ukrainians don't like to speak russian very much , but i gather the old ways are still in place there...and here
[20:33] <Mediapirate|AWAY> ?
[20:33] <BluesKaj> thecrono,in the terminal : sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[20:33] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: system settings->default applications I think
[20:34] <thecrono> hrm, both firefox and konquerer are displaying all webpages incorrectly..specificly links bars and side bars
[20:34] <thecrono> side bar text is being overlayed onto the main text etc
[20:35] <BluesKaj> read above , thecrono for firefox
[20:35] <thecrono> i'm at 1200x1600 resolution with the pages maximized
[20:35] <thecrono> firefox is broken also though
[20:35] <thecrono> i knows its updated, i jsut got it via apt-0get
[20:36] <BluesKaj> thecrono , did you see the command line message above ?
[20:36] <thecrono> yes, i amde firefox default
[20:36] <thecrono> but, the issue is, pages are being incorrectly displayed
[20:36] <BluesKaj> thecrono, ok now; Open Konqueror/Settings/Configure Konqueror/File Associations/ under "Known Types" choose Inode/System Directory/Application Preference Order ,move Konqueror to the top , click apply, close konq configure.Then open Konqueror Settings on the toolbar and choose "Configure View Profiles",choose "File Managaement",then save.
[20:38] <thecrono> hrm, still opens in dolphin
[20:38] <thecrono> when i click the computer, then home on the menu bar on the bottom
[20:38] <BluesKaj> did you close konq
[20:38] <thecrono> no
[20:39] <thecrono> heh
[20:39] <BluesKaj> close it
[20:39] <thecrono> still dolphin
[20:40] <thecrono> i closed it, opened it, hit file management then saved it
[20:40] <thecrono> then clsoed it
[20:40] <thecrono> then clicked system menu > home folder
[20:40] <thecrono> it gave me dolphin still
[20:40] <jussi01> !dolphin
[20:40] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[20:41] <thecrono> i just did that
[20:41] <thecrono> it changed nothing,i saved/applied it aswell
[20:41] <home_> can any one tell me how to change the keyboard layoout for the login screen from qwertz to azerty?
[20:45] <thecrono> !flash
[20:45] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[20:45] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[20:46] <thecrono> er..so flash is broken basicly right now?
[20:46] <genii> home_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data                    if console-data not installed, install it and console-tools first before the dpkg-reconfigure
[20:46] <home_> thx
[20:47] <BluesKaj> thecrono, after all the changes you've been making .have rebooted at all ?
[20:48] <thecrono> i reported when i installed the ati catalyst
[20:48] <thecrono> rebooted
[20:48] <ahmed> hi
[20:48] <ahmed> i need some help to mount my ntfs partitions
[20:49] <thecrono> what IS the latest working flash?
[20:49] <ahmed> i need some help to mount my ntfs partitions
[20:50] <ahmed> please
[20:50] <thecrono> er, is flash 9 and flash plugin system diffrent things?
[20:50] <nosrednaekim> !ntfs
[20:50] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[20:51] <ahmed> Thank You
[20:51] <Mediapirate|AWAY> thanks
[20:57]  * genii pops in for a minute to sip some coffee
[20:57] <thecrono> hey
[20:57] <Daisuke_Ido> greets genii
[20:57] <thecrono> i got gnash..can i use iot to view youtube?
[20:57]  * nosrednaekim gives genii and sxpresso
[20:57] <thecrono> or do i need flash?
[20:57] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: the reports differ
[20:58] <thecrono> well, i have gnash, i can't view youtube videos..so..heh
[20:58] <genii> Daisuke_Ido: Hellos :)
[20:58] <thecrono> and flash-plugin-nonfree has a md5sum mismatch and refuses to install
[20:58] <genii> nosrednaekim: I'm needing that caffeine today :) Busy here at work
[20:58] <jussi01> !flash | thecrono
[20:58] <ubotu> thecrono: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[20:58] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[20:58] <thecrono> so absicly no flash?
[20:59] <jussi01> thecrono: at the moment, no. you can however manually install it
[20:59] <thecrono> none of the advice on thsoe links works
[20:59] <thecrono> how do i manually install it?
[20:59] <jussi01> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397
[20:59] <Daisuke_Ido> thecrono: just go to adobe's site, download the tar.gz, and do it manually
[20:59] <Daisuke_Ido> for the time being, it works well
[20:59] <genii> thecrono: The link is provided there :) Also jussi01 repeated it just now
[21:00] <genii> thecrono: You will be an old hand after today at manual installs ;)
[21:02] <thecrono> genii...i still got about 7 LARGE problems to tackle
[21:02] <genii> thecrono: Well I'm here another 30  minutes to 45 minutes
[21:02] <thecrono> what i am not udnerstanding is..do i jsut install the package fix he gives?..and THEN retry to install nonfree?
[21:02] <genii> thecrono: Then gone home to return online after about 2 hours from now
[21:03] <thecrono> he doesn't really give a step by step
[21:03] <thecrono> ohman..i need an account at ubuntu forums
[21:03] <thecrono> :(
[21:05] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: no.... do not install nonfree
[21:05] <thecrono> is there a free flash?
[21:05] <thecrono> not an alternative
[21:05] <thecrono> i treid gnash and it didn't work
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> no... there is not
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> besides gnash
[21:07] <thecrono> so i need flash-plugin-nonfree
[21:07] <thecrono> but i cannot get the fix
[21:07] <nosrednaekim> you can't get the fix?
[21:07] <thecrono> i have to register an account
[21:08] <home_> genii: found the console=data  for ubutnu but not for kubuntu (running kubuntu)  can i still install it to change the keyboard?
[21:11] <genii> home_: the console-data stuff is before any window manager so the window manager takes it as a cue which keyboard to use normally unless it's been told specifically otherwise
[21:11] <home_> genii: ok found it
[21:11] <home_> :)
[21:13] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: you need an account to download that file?
[21:13] <N0xTrUm> hi
[21:14] <nosrednaekim> hey N0xTrUm
[21:14] <jose> hola!! alguien de Argentina???
[21:14] <thecrono> yes
[21:15] <home_> yay gonna try if i did it right thx genii
[21:15] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: better get one then <_<
[21:15] <genii> home_: I'll be here for a bit longer
[21:15] <genii> bah left
[21:19] <wolfy> sry genii  it didn't work still hqve only azerty when i logged in and not before :(
[21:19] <thecrono> what is Gtk+ 1.2 package called in aopt-get?
[21:19] <mot> question: does kubuntu/ubuntu have open sources ati drivers?
[21:19] <thecrono> i tried sveral vairants of gtk+
[21:20] <genii> wolfy: If you are online in about 1.5-2 hours i can try to assist further
[21:20] <thecrono> no mot
[21:20] <thecrono> !ati
[21:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:21] <wolfy> oh no gtg  its not that important i will try again tomorrow :)   anyway thx
[21:21] <wolfy> cya
[21:21] <circman07> Hello
[21:23] <Mediapirate|AWAY> hello
[21:23] <foibes> hi there
[21:23] <foibes> whats the command to delete something from shell?
[21:23] <Chousuke> rm
[21:23] <foibes> thanks
[21:24] <foibes> for a directory?
[21:24] <Chousuke> rm -r
[21:24] <Chousuke> :P
[21:24] <foibes> to delete a whole directory tree
[21:24] <Chousuke> (recursive)
[21:24] <foibes> ah, spanks
[21:24] <Mediapirate|AWAY> How do you port forward in kubuntu?
[21:25] <foibes> thanks a bunch
[21:26] <mot> thecrono, if my ati driver isn't listed in the restricted drivers section in 7.10
[21:26] <mot> can i use the one provided on ati's website?
[21:27] <thecrono> you the one that is lsited
[21:27] <foibles> i just had a real emergency
[21:27] <foibles> i couldn't log into a window manager
[21:27] <foibles> my drive was full
[21:28] <circman07> Are any of you familiar with the whole openchrome vs, VIA debacle?
[21:28] <foibles> circman07, no, tell us
[21:28] <Vermux> genii:there?
[21:29] <dusty-sts> Hey guys, i'm using ubuntu gutsy gibbon on a 4gb hdd (mad i know) It has like 5mb left, it has X etc installed.. i just want it basically for apache/bind how can i find out what packages are installed so i can go through them and apt-get uninstall them to make some room?
[21:29] <thecrono> nosrednaekim : the problem is...gmail requires flash in order to load..lol
[21:29] <thecrono> i think
[21:29] <thecrono> because i cannot chack my mail
[21:29] <Vermux> Im about to install kubuntu
[21:29] <foibles> dusty-sts, you could probably install a much more light weight distro and be alot more happy
[21:29] <foibles> dusty-sts, like zenwalk
[21:30] <circman07> I just installed Kubuntu 7.10 on my Averatec 2260-eh1 laptop. Unfortunately I have a graphics card that is based on the via platform
[21:30] <foibles> dusty-sts, i use zenwalk for all my servers
[21:30] <circman07> It is a Via Chrome9 hc igp
[21:30] <Vermux> I have winxp already on the first partition with 41gb. I have 118 GB left. What settings do u recommend?
[21:30] <circman07> And it won't let me switch to a resolution higher than 800*600
[21:31] <Vermux> need help with kubuntu installation
[21:31] <thecrono> what are you doing on linux vermin?
[21:31] <thecrono> vermux*
[21:31] <foibles> Vermux, set up a 1 gig swap
[21:31] <thecrono> id do 2gb..or maby 5..he ahs tons fo space
[21:31] <foibles> Vermux, then perhaps a 15 to 20 gig / partition
[21:31] <circman07> Vermux, unless you think you will need more space, I suggest you allot about 20gbs for the linux partition
[21:31] <thecrono> vermux, you wanna use all 118 gb?
[21:32] <circman07> If you are going to be using it for most things, then go ahead and allot a lot of space.
[21:32] <thomas__> thecrono: why wouldn't he
[21:32] <thecrono> who knows
[21:32] <Vermux> thecrono: yes, what else I can do with them? maybe Samba experiments?/
[21:32] <thecrono> lol
[21:32] <JoshOvki> heya
[21:32] <thomas__> thecrono: I got 2TB of linux filesystem :)
[21:32] <thecrono> make a 2Gb swap file, a 15GB linux system part, and the rest as a /home/ partition
[21:33] <JoshOvki> thomas_: How in the world have you got 2TBof linux filesystem!
[21:33] <thecrono> swap part*
[21:33] <drcode> hi all
[21:33] <circman07> Hey, Doc
[21:33] <drcode> how can I install xgl in kubuntu ?
[21:33] <thecrono> /home/ would be for general data, that way if somethign goes wrong with the system its on its own paritiion
[21:33] <Vermux> thecrono: I have 1gb ram, I will install 2 GB ram more if the machine works fine
[21:33] <thomas__> JoshOvki: 4*320GB + 500GB + 160BG + 80GB
[21:33] <thecrono> that's good, i got 1.5gb ram, and 2gb swap
[21:34] <thecrono> but in your case, 2gb swap is not even noticeable
[21:34] <JoshOvki> thomas_: lol, how much is used?
[21:34] <drcode> any help?
[21:34] <thomas__> JoshOvki: about 1.7 TB
[21:34] <thecrono> !xgl
[21:34] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[21:34] <Vermux> thecrono: but, is it enough for 3GB RAM that I will have?
[21:34] <thecrono> any linux distro can run on 3gb ram
[21:34] <JoshOvki> thomas_:  how?!
[21:34] <drcode> hanx
[21:34] <drcode> thanx
[21:35] <thomas__> JoshOvki: hmm, music, movie, tv
[21:35] <thecrono> thomas_ = modern day black beard har ahr arr arr!
[21:35] <Vermux> thecrono: 2GB swap partition is enough if I will have 3 GB RAM?
[21:35] <JoshOvki> lol
[21:35] <thecrono> do 5gb, it depedns on you i guess, i did 2gb
[21:35] <thomas__> thecrono: it's bluebeard
[21:35] <thecrono> i did 2gb because ti was recommended
[21:35] <JoshOvki> i used to have debian installed on a machine with a 2gb harddrive, 128mb ram, and a 500mhz processor
[21:35] <Vermux> thecrono: ok, Im doing 5Gb
[21:35] <thomas__> 2GB is enough swap
[21:35] <thomas__> more than you'll use
[21:36] <Vermux> thecrono: system partition, u mean for the root?
[21:36] <circman07> Can anyone help me with my display driver problems?  is there someway to force the screen to display at a higher resolution?
[21:36] <thecrono> vermux...is your computer part of the flux copacitor?..if not..2gb swap is plenty
[21:36] <hagabaka> after I installed kde4 packages, KDE3 is also using konqueror-kde4 to open links. is there a way to let it use kde3 konqueror?
[21:36] <thomas__> Vermux: 5GB swap is wasted space
[21:36] <thomas__> make it 2
[21:36] <Vermux> thomas_2 or 5gb? Im confused
[21:36] <thomas__> 2
[21:36] <thomas__> 2
[21:36] <thomas__> 2
[21:36] <thecrono> lol
[21:36] <thecrono> 2 is good
[21:36] <thomas__> 5 - 3
[21:36] <Vermux> ok
[21:36] <Vermux> agreed
[21:36] <thomas__> :)
[21:37] <thecrono> yes vermux, the 15gb system partition is the one linux will install to
[21:37] <Vermux> does it matter which one is the first one? swap root and home ?
[21:37] <thecrono> your data, like music,movies, saved stuff will be on /home/
[21:37] <thomas__> no but seriously, I run a dozen of apps, servers, and vmware on a 2 GB ram + 2 GB swap laptop
[21:37] <thecrono> i don't think so
[21:37] <thomas__> and it doesn't even use all the memory
[21:38] <Vermux> Im making the first partition the root, then, home, and then swap
[21:38] <thecrono> though
[21:38] <thecrono> hrm...your leaving windows on the pc?
[21:38] <thomas__> Vermux: if you want efficient HD use, make / first then swap and then /home
[21:38] <val0> circman07 what video card do you have? what monitor do you have? do you have the right driver installed for your video card?
[21:38] <Vermux> thecrono: yes
[21:39] <thecrono> does windows already have its own partition?
[21:39] <faTe> sorry gegen aussschalter gekommen :/
[21:39] <Vermux> thomas_why swap in the middle? it doesnt sound logical to me
[21:39] <Vermux> thecrono: yes, it has 41 GB
[21:39] <thecrono> this is where it is placed on the disk
[21:39] <circman07> I have a laptop so I am using the built in monitor, I currently and using the Vesa drivers because  I can't seem to get the via drivers to compile for my VIA Chrome9 hc IGP
[21:39] <thomas__> because your hd otherwise always have to go to the end of the hd for swap files
[21:39] <thecrono> the farth to the end, the longer it takes to load [that's prolly wrong, but meh it sounds good]
[21:39] <thomas__> Vermux: now it wil be between the two most used partitions
[21:40] <circman07> Is it possible to edit the xorg.conf file and add monitor settings I know are supported?
[21:40] <val0> circman07 what laptop do you have? what do think the resolution should be? what resolution do you currently have?
[21:40] <Vermux> thomas_sounds good to me
[21:40] <thomas__> Vermux: hence it will be accesed faster
[21:40] <Vermux> anybody think different?
[21:40] <thecrono> nope
[21:40] <Vermux> haha, ok
[21:40] <thecrono> ever used linux before?
[21:40] <circman07> I have an averatec 2260-eh1, the native resolution in windows is 1280-1024, and currently the best it will let me have is 800-600
[21:40] <Vermux> which one is the first, the root?
[21:41] <thecrono> yes /
[21:41] <Vermux> ok, sec. yes I used it a litlle
[21:41] <val0> circman07 also please prefix your messages with val0 that will let me know that you are talking to me and i will respond sooner
[21:41] <thecrono> anything you know about computers, throw it away
[21:41] <thomas__> Vermux: are you going to resize the windows ntfs partition or did you already made it smaller on purpose
[21:41] <val0> circman07 ok give me a min or two to take a look
[21:41] <circman07> val0: I will, sorry
[21:42] <Vermux> thomas_I made it only 40GB
[21:42] <thomas__> ok
[21:42] <thomas__> nm then ;)
[21:42] <Vermux> thomas_I have total of 160 GB
[21:42] <thomas__> jes
[21:42] <thomas__> great
[21:42] <thecrono> i got 80GB :D
[21:42] <Vermux> thomas_: why, u think I should change it?
[21:42] <thomas__> Vermux: no I did the exact same :)
[21:42] <Vermux> thomas_the win installation?
[21:43] <justin_> are there any toshiba laptop specific modules for kubuntu
[21:43] <thecrono> i deleted my win installation
[21:43] <thomas__> thecrono: I sadly need it for school
[21:44] <thomas__> Vermux: no 40 GB is more than enough to run a few apps and games in windows :-)
[21:44] <mot> so
[21:44] <thecrono> i need to reset router, brb
[21:44] <mot> if there are no drivers for ati in the restricted drivers section of kubuntu
[21:44] <mot> what's my next move? are there any other sources i can look for for ati drivers?
[21:45] <Vermux> thomas_: so the rest is the home aprtition, hencce 101 GB
[21:45] <thomas__> Vermux: jeps, sounds nice :)
[21:45] <val0> circman07 I just looked up the specs for your machine and the max resolution (the specs claim) is 1280 x 800, are you sure you got 1280x1024?
[21:45] <thomas__> Vermux: thats where all the data has to come ;-), movies, music, documents
[21:45] <circman07> val0: nope, forgot it was widescreen.
[21:46] <dusty-sts> Anyone know a good tutorial or howto on configuring bind on gusty gibbon?
[21:46] <circman07> Val0:1280X800 sounds right
[21:46] <thomas__> Vermux: and in the / partions all the aplications will be hosted
[21:46] <Vermux> thomas_: hey, why did the installation took off 2 MB from the swap partition? I specified 2 GB but it wrote to only 1998 MB?
[21:46] <thomas__> partition*
[21:46] <thomas__> Vermux: it unexplainable
[21:46] <brian_> I can't write to my VFAT partition on my second internal hard drive.. help!
[21:47] <Vermux> thomas_??
[21:47] <thomas__> Vermux: no, it always happens, has something to do with the size of the clusters on your HD
[21:47] <Vermux> thomas_it added the 2mb to the root partition
[21:47] <Vermux> !!!
[21:47] <thomas__> brian_: make sure permissions are set right
[21:48] <brian_> how do I check that?
[21:48] <thomas__> Vermux: it realy doesn't mather
[21:48] <thomas__> 2mb ain't makin' the difference
[21:48] <Vermux> thomas_ ok
[21:48] <thomas__> brian_: kcontrol
[21:49] <genii> Vermux: Back, but only briefly before logging off..anything to assist with that may not take a long time?
[21:49] <val0> circman07 ok still looking brb
[21:49] <circman07> val0: I appreciate your help.
[21:49] <oreth> everytime i play a youtube video, firefox crashes
[21:49] <oreth> what do I do?
[21:49] <thomas__> genii: takin care off him ;-)
[21:49] <Vermux> genii: no thanks
[21:50] <Vermux> thomas_: so Im making the partitions ext3
[21:50] <anonymous5929> oreth: did you try reinstalling firefox/flash?
[21:50] <thomas__> jep
[21:50] <genii> thomas_: Yes, nice, checked backscroll after checking in :)
[21:50] <thomas__> bright idea :)
[21:50] <genii> Vermux: Looks like you are in good hands
[21:50] <oreth> well
[21:50] <genii> See everyhone later
[21:50] <oreth> what's the recommended way to install flash?
[21:50] <Vermux> thomas_install boot loader?
[21:50] <oreth> i just let firefox install it for me
[21:50] <thomas__> Vermux: jes
[21:50] <Vermux> thomas_: I clicked advanced
[21:51] <brian_> Where do I find Kcontrol?
[21:51] <thomas__> Vermux: MBR
[21:51] <anonymous5929> I usually do it through the dialoge box that pops up when you visit a flash page (I usually just visit www.homestarrunner.com to get it to pop up)
[21:51] <val0> circman07 can i query you? i want to send you a few links
[21:51] <oreth> well
[21:51] <oreth> that's how I installed it
[21:51] <Vermux> thomas_what about it?
[21:51] <anonymous5929> hmm
[21:51] <anonymous5929> does any other flash work?
[21:51] <thomas__> Vermux: install bootloader in MBR
[21:51] <oreth> this is a fresh install at that
[21:51] <anonymous5929> oh I see
[21:51] <thomas__> Vermux: it should have that option
[21:51] <circman07> val0: Sure
[21:51] <Vermux> thomas_I dont know, it sways (hd0)
[21:52] <thomas__> yeah
[21:52] <Vermux> *says
[21:52] <thomas__> thats ok
[21:52] <oreth> anonymous5929: all other flash seems to work
[21:52] <anonymous5929> oreth: well I'll keep looking/thinking but I think i'm at a loss on this one...
[21:52] <Vermux> thomas_: Installation is in process
[21:53] <thomas__> Vermux: It will most likely go flawlessly ;-)
[21:53] <anonymous5929> I'd stoill reccomend uninstalling/reinstalling firefox
[21:53] <Vermux> thomas_I hope so, my machine made me a lot of problems
[21:53] <brian_> Where can I find Kcontrol?
[21:53] <dmw3e> use run
[21:53] <thomas__> Vermux: under linux it will no longer ^^
[21:54] <Vermux> thomas_: oy, it is on 5% for 2 minutes already
[21:54] <thomas__> just let it be
[21:54] <Vermux> thomas_it was under linux and win earlier
[21:54] <thomas__> ah okay
[21:54] <dmw3e> what are your thoughts on ubuntu vs sabayon?
[21:54] <thomas__> then what was the problem Vermux?
[21:54] <Vermux> thomas_I think the power supply made all the problems, I replaced it with a different one
[21:54] <thomas__> ok
[21:55] <Vermux> thomas_: The computer used to freeze
[21:55] <glennandre> wazzup?
[21:55] <thomas__> good luck then with the new powersuply
[21:55] <Vermux> thomas_ up untill asn hour ago
[21:55] <Vermux> thomas_it is a used one I found
[21:55] <glennandre> somone here know why steam is drivin so slow in kubuntu?
[21:55] <thomas__> well, if it was ok before it will most likely be so now
[21:56] <Vermux> thomas_ : the computer used to freeze all the time with win, then I installed kubuntu and it didnt freeze even once, untill today
[21:56] <circman07> val0: I am blocked from PM's cause I am unregistered
[21:56] <thomas__> Vermux: yeah, very strange
[21:56] <Vermux> thomas_or yesterday
[21:56] <Vermux> thomas_then, I got cmos checksum error when booting yesterday
[21:56] <thomas__> Vermux: sounds like PSU indeed
[21:57] <val0> circman07 register your nick with nickserv :D
[21:57] <circman07> val0: but thanks for all the help, sadly I have to leave work and head home to try to sort this mess out
[21:57] <sorush21> I have 256 mb ram can I install kubuntu
[21:57] <Vermux> thomas_when the computer froze it made a click noise
[21:57] <circman07> val0:I will but this is just chatzilla hastily installed on the work computer.  See you guys later, and thanks
[21:57] <val0> circman07 got an email?
[21:57] <circman07> val0<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:57] <thomas__> Vermux: a click noise, I would have a look ath your HD then
[21:58] <val0> circman07 i'll email it to you right now
[21:58] <circman07> val0: thanks a ton!
[21:58] <circman07> See ya guys later
[21:58] <val0> circman07 no worries, lates
[21:58] <Vermux> thomas_: do u recommend using bad blocks? do u know how to use that?
[21:58] <thomas__> Vermux: using bad blacks?
[21:58] <thomas__> blocks*
[21:59] <glennandre> somone here know why steam is drivin so slow in kubuntu?
[21:59] <Vermux> thomas_there is a program called badblocks
[21:59] <glennandre>  somone here know why steam is drivin so slow in kubuntu?
[21:59] <Vermux> thomas_ it suppose to check the hdd
[21:59] <thomas__> Vermux: ah no, don't knwo that, i guess it scans the hd for bad blocks?
[21:59] <Vermux> yes
[22:00] <Vermux> does anybody know how to use badblocks?
[22:00] <thomas__> Vermux: you could give it a try
[22:00] <thomas__> but just a chkdsk will do
[22:00] <Vermux> thomas_with win or linux?
[22:00] <thomas__> win
[22:00] <thomas__> or in linux
[22:00] <thomas__> what you prefer
[22:00] <thomas__> I would prefer linux
[22:00] <thomas__> :p
[22:01] <TimS> Is there anyway to tell when the last fsck was run?
[22:01] <Vermux> thomas_just typpe chckdsk
[22:01] <Vermux> ?
[22:02] <thomas__> konsole
[22:02] <thomas__> man fsck ;-)
[22:02] <nosrednaekim> TimS: yeah.. I think there is a way with tune2fs
[22:02] <brian_> how do I check permissions in Kcontrol?
[22:03] <nosrednaekim> permissions for what?
[22:03] <thomas__> brian_: system administration > disks and filesystems
[22:03] <thomas__> nosrednaekim: for his external HD
[22:03] <nosrednaekim> ah
[22:04] <soporte> alguien me ayuda con el horde
[22:04] <soporte> ctype_lower() in
[22:04] <nosrednaekim> !es
[22:04] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:04] <soporte> cuando instalo el modulo de password
[22:04] <brian_> Disks and Filesystems doesn't really help me. It allows me to enable it and disable it but thats about it
[22:04] <soporte> me sale este error
[22:04] <thecrono> how ya doin vermux?
[22:04] <soporte> Fatal error: Call to undefined function: ctype_lower() in /srv/www/htdocs/horde/passwd/main.php on line 97
[22:04] <soporte> es bug ?
[22:05] <thomas__> brian_: look better
[22:05] <SlimeyPete> !es
[22:05] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:05] <soporte> la kosa es ke no es ubuntu
[22:05] <soporte> es debian
[22:05] <soporte> ta keeeee
[22:05] <thomas__> !es | soporte
[22:05] <ubotu> soporte: please see above
[22:05] <soporte> okas
[22:06] <Vermux> thecrono: almost done installination
[22:06] <brian_> Even in admin mode it's not letting me do anything other than letting me choose if the admit can mount it or not.
[22:06] <wastedfluid> Might be kind of stupid; but can anyone point me to a link to help me completely remove kde 3.5.8  w/ out messing up my kde4 installation
[22:07] <thecrono> Ok guys, i got another problem, when i restart kubuntu...everything closes down, the screen goes black...and...nothing....it is stillon, but it goes completely unresponsive..i ahve to unplug my computer and plug it back in to start it...
[22:07] <Lynoure> too slow to type :/ He would have needed php to have ctype support
[22:07] <SlimeyPete> thanasi: why not just hold the power button down for a few secs instead of unplugging?
[22:08] <thecrono> that doesn'twork
[22:08] <Lynoure> Weird, because I thought PHP 4.2.0 onwards it was the default.
[22:08] <thomas__> brian_: click on the HD, then click modify
[22:08] <Daisuke_Ido> you...  unplug?  yeah, SlimeyPete has the right idea.  the power button's there for a reason
[22:08] <thanasi> hi guys. i want to clone a disk but not with dd. what can i use?
[22:08] <SlimeyPete> thanasi: but I have heard of this issue, quite a few people experience it and I'm not sure that there's a fix for it yet.
[22:08] <Daisuke_Ido> thanasi: dd
[22:08] <thecrono> power button does nothing at all
[22:08] <SlimeyPete> thanasi: you held it down for five secs?
[22:08] <thomas__> thanasi: k3b
[22:08] <SlimeyPete> erm, thecrono ^^
[22:08] <thecrono> yes
[22:08] <Daisuke_Ido> thomas__: clone a hard drive with k3b?
[22:08] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: man.. you are having all the luck... ^_^
[22:08] <thanasi> hehe.. hard drive and the new one is bigger than the old one
[22:08] <SlimeyPete> how odd. Is your computer purpose-built to break Linux or something? ;D
[22:09] <thomas__> Daisuke_Ido: sory misread
[22:09] <brian_> Is there a way I can check the permissons on the hard drive?
[22:09] <thecrono> well, my video is fixed, now i need to get flash working
[22:09] <thomas__> Daisuke_Ido: a disk can also be a cd
[22:09] <thanasi> Daisuke_Ido: dd takes too long
[22:09] <Daisuke_Ido> thanasi: you're cloning.  nothing else is going to be any faster.
[22:09] <thecrono> man, flash worked on the lvie cd..youd think ti would work on installation
[22:10] <thomas__> thanasi: there wont be much that would do it faster then dd
[22:10] <Lynoure> thanasi: cloning disks takes really long, especially if they are on the same bus.
[22:10] <Vermux> thomas_: ok, I want to increase the size of the icons a litlle, but last time it causes a lot of problems when I tried to change the resolution. Do u know what to do?
[22:10] <ScorpKing> ScorpKing = thanasi
[22:10] <brian_> Is there a way I can check the permissons on the hard drive?
[22:10] <thomas__> Vermux: so you want bigger icons
[22:10] <Daisuke_Ido> thomas__: but normally that would be "copy a disk" or "duplicate a disk".  clone tends to infer a hard disk (or partition thereof)
[22:10] <thomas__> Vermux: check kcontrol
[22:10] <ScorpKing> hi guys. i can't remember what that boot cd is called with the partition manager on.
[22:10] <Lynoure> ScorpKing: do it overnight, less hassle about the time it takes :)
[22:11] <Lynoure> ScorpKing: there is many, one is from http://gpartedclonz.tuxfamily.org/
[22:11] <Vermux> thomas_: first updated?
[22:11] <Vermux> updates
[22:11] <thomas__> ScorpKing: kubtuntu live cd
[22:11] <brian_> Ther only permissions I see are mount permissions and that doesn't help at all. I can't write to the drive in while Root
[22:11] <wastedfluid> Anyone know of an easy way to uninstall the KDE3 desktop without messing up KDE4?
[22:11] <thecrono> what do i ened to do to get flash-plugin-nonfree? don't use !flash i tried it
[22:11] <thomas__> wastedfluid: the go perfectly next to each other
[22:11] <Lynoure> ScorpKing: also has Clonezilla for your cloning needs :)
[22:12] <thomas__> brian_: sudo chown -R username:username /mount/point
[22:12] <ScorpKing> Lynoure: nvm. i'll go look for the one i want. one sec
[22:12] <Daisuke_Ido> thecrono: go to adobe.com.  get flash player.  download the tar.gz, untar the tar.gz, cd to the directory it creates, and run the installer script
[22:12] <Vermux> guys, I just installed kubuntu. Do I need to apply all updates or there are updates I need to be careful about?
[22:12] <Lynoure> ScorpKing: nvm me then...
[22:12] <Daisuke_Ido> didn't we already go over this?
[22:12] <thecrono> that's it?
[22:12] <thomas__> Vermux: just aply then
[22:12] <nosrednaekim> Vermux: get all updates
[22:13] <Daisuke_Ido> yep
[22:13] <thomas__> Vermux: nothing to wory about
[22:13] <wastedfluid> thomas_; I know they go completely well with each other, but I want to remove KDE3.  I'm satisfied with KDE4.
[22:13]  * ScorpKing pass Lynoure some coffee..
[22:13] <Daisuke_Ido> that would be a question for the kde4 channel.
[22:13] <thomas__> then remove KDE3, although I wouldn't advise it
[22:13] <wastedfluid> Why not?
[22:13] <wastedfluid> "kubuntu-desktop" - right?
[22:13] <thomas__> jep
[22:14] <thomas__> because you'll loose alot of aplications
[22:14] <thomas__> I think
[22:14] <Daisuke_Ido> except kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage
[22:14] <wastedfluid> I tink so too
[22:14] <Vermux> can I work freely while updating the system?
[22:14] <SlimeyPete> Vermux: yep
[22:14] <thecrono> should eb able to
[22:14] <brian_> It says changing of ownership not permited!! WTF?
[22:14] <thecrono> i did
[22:14] <nosrednaekim> Vermux: just don't log out or reboot ;)
[22:14] <thomas__> brian_: do it as root
[22:14] <thecrono> will flash player integrate into firefox?
[22:15] <SlimeyPete> yes, thecrono
[22:15] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: yes, the script will put it the right place
[22:15] <brian_> how do I switch to root in Konsole?
[22:15] <thomas__> sudo
[22:15] <thomas__> sudo <command>
[22:15] <brian_> Thats what I did!
[22:16] <thomas__> hmm
[22:16] <brian_> sudo chown -R ect
[22:16] <val0> brian_ try sudo su
[22:16] <thomas__> val0: no
[22:16] <thomas__> wont change a thing
[22:16] <thomas__> brian_: unmount hd
[22:16] <brian_> What on earth could be causing this?
[22:16] <thomas__> brian_: then chown
[22:16] <Vermux> waht about resolution? can I play with the screen resolution while updating?
[22:16] <thomas__> brian_: then mount again
[22:16] <thomas__> Vermux: jes
[22:17] <val0> thomas__ why not? will allow him to switch to root without a command to see if that actually works... the sudo that is
[22:17] <SlimeyPete> Vermux: you can do anything except log out, kill X11 or shut down
[22:17] <thomas__> val0: the sudo will work fine
[22:17] <brian_> Still tells me "changing of ownership is not permited
[22:17] <thecrono> um, the scripted opened in kate
[22:17] <thomas__> val0: what on earth could be wrong with it
[22:17] <SlimeyPete> well, killing all processes is a big no-no too ;)
[22:18] <thecrono> how do i run this script?
[22:18] <thomas__> brian_: when hd is unmounted?
[22:18] <val0> thomas__ i have no idea... more of a troubleshooting idea rather than a direct solution
[22:18] <brian_> Not when I try that action. Should I unmount it for this?
[22:18] <thecrono> vermux you can do almsot anything while it updated
[22:18] <thomas__> brian_: jes
[22:18] <Vermux> ok
[22:18] <thomas__> read what I said before
[22:18] <thomas__> [23:16]
[22:19] <SlimeyPete> thecrono: to run a script from the terminal, "cd" to its location then type "sh <file name". You'll want to prefix with "sudo" if you need admin priveliges.
[22:19] <SlimeyPete> erm, "sh <file name>", without the <>s of course ;)
[22:19] <thomas__> thecrono: you'll probably have to chmod 777 it first
[22:20] <wastedfluid> thomas_; "kubuntu-desktop" didn't remove kde3. ;/
[22:20] <brian_> Nope, that didn't help either
[22:20] <thomas__> then do kdelibs
[22:20] <thomas__> and kdecore
[22:20] <thecrono> thecrono@Neckron-Ninty-Nine:~/Technical$ sudo sh install_flash_player+9+linux.tar.gz
[22:20] <thecrono>      ??
[22:20] <thomas__> brian_: dont know then
[22:20] <Vermux> ok, when I change the resolution to 1024x768 and click apply it doesnt change it?
[22:20] <faTe> good night u all
[22:20] <Vermux> ignore the ?
[22:20] <thecrono> chmod 777?
[22:20] <thomas__> thecrono: lol its an archive
[22:20] <thomas__> thecrono: extract it first
[22:20] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: "tar xvzf the_tar_package"
[22:20] <thecrono> but there is a script isnide it
[22:21] <wastedfluid> thomas_; it says neither are installed.. lol, but i just logged into kde3.5.8
[22:21] <brian_> Wow this sucks. It shouldn't be having this problem.
[22:21] <thomas__> wastedfluid: reboot
[22:21] <Vermux> somebody know why?
[22:21] <wastedfluid> sigh.. don't want to do that :/
[22:21] <wastedfluid> bah.
[22:21] <thomas__> Vermux: hmm
[22:21] <Vermux> from 1280x1024
[22:21] <thomas__> Vermux: are graphix drivers installed?
[22:21] <thecrono> vermux, what video card do you have?
[22:22] <thecrono> vermux,kubuntu requires some good setting up to be done
[22:22] <thecrono> but we will help you
[22:22] <brian_> I think I got it to work..
[22:22] <val0> !flash
[22:22] <kikiwarrior> help
[22:22] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[22:22] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[22:22] <nosrednaekim> whats the problem kikiwarrior
[22:23] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: heh... you are the expert now :)
[22:23] <thecrono> don't ask to ask a question, jsut ask the question
[22:23] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: did you run that tar command?
[22:23] <thecrono> lol
[22:23] <Vermux> ok, I got the following message: there was an error commiting changes. possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages
[22:23] <kikiwarrior> i m new in linux system i dont speak english (i m french)
[22:23] <thecrono> yes, invalid filename or folder
[22:23] <thecrono> or soemthing, gonna do it mnually
[22:23] <thecrono> !fr
[22:23] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[22:23] <kikiwarrior> yes fr
[22:23] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: haha... you have to change "the_tar_archive" to the actual name of the archive
[22:24] <thecrono> i did
[22:24] <thecrono> it still said invalid
[22:24] <thecrono> lol i;'m nto that  daft :D
[22:24] <kikiwarrior> it s for me
[22:24] <thecrono> silent?
[22:24] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: ;-)
[22:24] <thecrono> hrm, what do you need?
[22:24] <kikiwarrior> i want joint french irc
[22:25] <thecrono> what do you mean? kikiwarrior
[22:25] <Lynoure> kikiwarrior: /join #kubuntu-fr
[22:26] <kikiwarrior> sorry i don't understand my english is very bab
[22:26] <kikiwarrior> tank for kubuntu .fr
[22:26] <thecrono> what is default mozilla location?
[22:26] <thecrono> !fr
[22:26] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[22:26] <thecrono> there
[22:26] <kikiwarrior> i don t know
[22:26] <thecrono> not you kikiwarrior
[22:26] <tekteen> thecrono: ~/.mozilla
[22:27] <Vermux> after updating  I got the following message: there was an error commiting changes. possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages
[22:27] <Vermux> anybody knows the specific problem?
[22:27] <kikiwarrior> thank you every body your are very cool
[22:27] <thecrono> re fetch updates
[22:27] <tekteen> thecrono: is that what you wanted?
[22:27] <thecrono> your useing adept?
[22:27] <thecrono> not sure
[22:27] <thecrono> flash 9 wants to know my mozilla directory
[22:27] <kikiwarrior> good bye
[22:27] <thecrono> good bye kikiwarrior
[22:28] <thomas__> thecrono: /home/username/.mozilla
[22:28] <Vermux> thomas_:^
[22:28] <kikiwarrior> i go speak french it s to easy for me
[22:28] <kikiwarrior> tank good bye
[22:28] <thomas__> au revoir
[22:28] <thecrono> /usr/lib/mozilla is that it?..that's the default setting btw
[22:28] <thomas__> thecrono: yeah, thats for system wide installation
[22:28] <thecrono> ok
[22:29] <thomas__> thecrono: you need to be root fopr that
[22:29] <DFlame> anyone reckon they can help with a USB mounted drive locking up every time I try and copy something big?
[22:29] <thomas__> thecrono: did you execute command as root?
[22:29] <thomas__> thecrono: script*
[22:29] <thecrono> yes
[22:29] <thomas__> ok
[22:29] <thecrono> it said /usr/lib/mozzila was invalid
[22:29] <thomas__> uhm
[22:29] <tekteen> one z
[22:29] <thomas__> 1 sec
[22:29] <thecrono> Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,
[22:29] <thecrono> or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): /usr/lib/mozilla
[22:29] <thecrono> WARNING: Please enter a valid installation path.
[22:29] <tekteen> two l
[22:29] <thecrono> yes, one z
[22:30] <thecrono> that's what i put
[22:30] <tekteen> two L's
[22:30] <thecrono> there is two
[22:30] <thomas__> thecrono: sudo mkdir /usr/lib/mozilla
[22:30] <thecrono> can i do that in another konsole?
[22:30] <thomas__> jep
[22:31] <thecrono> LOL
[22:31] <thecrono> mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/lib/mozilla': File exists
[22:31] <thecrono> now that si strange
[22:31] <thomas__> yeah
[22:31] <thomas__> then why isnt it valid?
[22:31] <gravedal> someone knows how toupgrade KDE to 4.O on kubuntu?
[22:31] <thomas__> :/
[22:31] <thecrono> dunnio
[22:31] <thomas__> gravedal: google
[22:32] <tekteen> gravedal: #kubuntu-kde4
[22:32] <thecrono> !kde
[22:32] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[22:32] <thecrono> !kde4
[22:32] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[22:32] <gravedal> thx
[22:32] <thecrono> what is before /usr/?\
[22:32] <thecrono> /usr/ ?*
[22:32] <thomas__>  /
[22:32] <tekteen> thecrono: /usr/lib
[22:32] <nosredna_ekim> thecrono: AFAIK, you are supposed to put it in a local folder.. like /home/user/.mozilla
[22:32] <thecrono> /usr/ ?
[22:33] <thecrono> i want it global
[22:33] <tekteen> /usr/lib
[22:33] <thecrono> that won'twork
[22:33] <thecrono>  :(
[22:33] <thecrono> or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): /usr/lib/mozilla
[22:33] <thecrono> WARNING: Please enter a valid installation path.
[22:34] <nosredna_ekim>  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so is where mine is
[22:34] <thecrono> /home/thecrono/.mozilla didn't work either
[22:35] <thomas__> thecrono: very strange
[22:35] <nosredna_ekim> try /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[22:35] <thecrono> tried it
[22:35] <thecrono> um, doesn't it jsut copy/paste the /so file?
[22:36] <thecrono> .so
[22:36] <thecrono> i can do that myself if so
[22:36] <nosredna_ekim> right...
[22:36] <nosredna_ekim> thats what it does
[22:37] <thecrono> um
[22:37] <thecrono> i don't have usr
[22:37] <thecrono> in root,all i got is /lib/ and it doesn't have /mozilla/
[22:37] <thomas__> no /usr?
[22:37] <thecrono> or is there something lower that root?
[22:37] <thomas__> wait waht ?
[22:38] <thomas__> no nothing lower
[22:38] <thecrono> system menu > home folder > root
[22:38] <thecrono> no usr folder
[22:38] <Chousuke> uh
[22:38] <thomas__> huh ?
[22:38] <thecrono> er, wait, nvm human error
[22:38] <Chousuke> home folder?
[22:38] <thomas__> now wait a second
[22:39] <thecrono> oh m,an
[22:40] <thecrono> i tried to copy opaste the file..it said :Access Denied, could not write to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[22:40] <nosredna_ekim> thecrono: do it as root...
[22:40] <thecrono> i treid to drag and drop
[22:40] <thecrono> how do i do it as root?
[22:40] <nosredna_ekim> thecrono: using dolphin?
[22:40] <nosredna_ekim> "kdesudo dolphin"
[22:40] <thecrono> yes
[22:40] <thecrono> i want to use konqurer though
[22:41] <thecrono> but it won't work and that's another problem
[22:41] <nosredna_ekim> kdesudo konqueror then
[22:42] <Lynoure> thecrono: are you installing some plugin? for yourself or systemwide?  If for yourself, just  ~/.mozilla/plugin
[22:42] <thecrono> trying to install flash player 9
[22:43] <thecrono> i copied the .so to usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[22:43] <thecrono> how do i make firefox use a plugin?
[22:43] <professional_min> hello
[22:43] <thecrono> hello
[22:43] <professional_min> I have questions...
[22:43] <professional_min> can i ask?
[22:43] <jussi01> !ask | professional_min
[22:43] <ubotu> professional_min: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:44] <professional_min> this is my first visit here actually
[22:44] <thecrono> don't ask to ask a question, jsut ask the question
[22:44] <thecrono> there ya go
[22:44] <thecrono> :D
[22:44] <professional_min> what's the best version of LINUX for webserver?
[22:44] <nosredna_ekim> thecrono: start up firefox and enter "about:plugins"
[22:45] <nosredna_ekim> professional_min: that is aof course, a matter of much discussion, I would say debian
[22:45] <thecrono> yeah, it say it installed
[22:45] <jussi01> professional_min: ubuntu server is alos very good
[22:45] <thecrono> lets check youtube see if it works
[22:45] <professional_min> I tried ubuntu server but its interface is in DOS like mode..
[22:45] <Limbeaux> i used to have an icon on the taskbar that looked like a speaker.  now it had disappeared  Any ideas how to get it back?
[22:45] <nosredna_ekim> professional_min:
[22:46] <jussi01> professional_min: yes, so are most servers
[22:46] <professional_min> I found it difficult..need to study about sudo
[22:46] <nosredna_ekim> thats the way linux servers are
[22:46] <Vermux> ok, this is the problem: and it happaned also last time after I install: I cant get into administrative mode in order to change these things now.
[22:46] <nosredna_ekim> Limbeaux: "kmix"
[22:46] <Vermux> I just installed and updated kubuntu
[22:46] <ahmos> hi, i wana know if my swap partition is working because I have a 1.0G.B ram and aout 98% of it is used...I'm very new to linux ,thanks
[22:46] <tekteen> professional_min: you can get a graphical user interface (gui)
[22:46] <now3d> Hi, i installed kubuntu 7.10 on my USB stick, but I get GRUB Error 17 when it boots, unable to find the file on the partition.. but it does exist on the (hd1,1)
[22:46] <nosredna_ekim> ahmos: most of that is probably in cache...
[22:47] <professional_min> can Ubuntu desktop could be a server?
[22:47] <tekteen> professional_min: why not?
[22:47] <nosredna_ekim> professional_min: yes, it can
[22:47] <Limbeaux> kmix doesn't give me volume adjustment.  it brings up the mixer
[22:47] <nosredna_ekim> now3d: I think you have to make it hd(0,1)
[22:47] <professional_min> ubuntu desktop edition can also be set-up to webserver?
[22:47] <tekteen> professional_min: yes
[22:47] <jussi01> !lamp > professional_min
[22:47] <now3d> ahmos: what does "top" show as free?
[22:48] <now3d> nosredna_ekim: hd(0,1) would be my C drive wouldnt it tho..?
[22:48] <nosredna_ekim> now3d: not if you are booting from the USB
[22:48] <now3d> nosredna_ekim: ah.. does it swap them!?
[22:48] <professional_min> how to install GUI in ubuntu server?
[22:49] <ahmos> my free memory is about 5% if you meant that
[22:49] <tekteen> professional_min: sudo apt-get install kde
[22:49] <now3d> nosredna_ekim: i wish it just used the /dev/sd** names like normal.. why do they have to be different and use hd(0,1) etc..
[22:49] <jussi01> professional_min: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[22:49] <thecrono> wow
[22:49] <nosredna_ekim> now3d: I think it does...
[22:49] <tekteen> professional_min: or sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:49] <thecrono> as soon as the video started loading flash..my computer locked up and froze..had to pull the plug again
[22:49] <now3d> nosredna_ekim: ok, i will give it a try now, thanks for the tip
[22:50] <Limbeaux> got it.  I had to set sound device as autodetect
[22:50] <professional_min> after which would it look like the desktop edition? like in windows..
[22:50] <tekteen> the latter installs all of the kubuntu desktop programs
[22:50] <tekteen> later*
[22:50] <tekteen> professional_min: yes
[22:50] <jussi01> professional_min: yes, you need to choose if you want ubuntu or kubuntu though
[22:50] <thecrono> anyone know hwat would cause that?
[22:51] <Vermux> it happaned also last time after I install: I cant get into administrative mode in order to change these things now.
[22:51] <Vermux> in system settings
[22:51] <thecrono> what happened vermux?
[22:51] <professional_min> which of the two could you recommend--ubuntu or kubuntu desktop in ubuntu server
[22:52] <tekteen> professional_min: neither and then kubuntu
[22:52] <nosredna_ekim> thecrono: graphics driversmaybe...
[22:52] <tekteen> professional_min: I like neither
[22:52] <thecrono> what does that have to do with grphics drivers>?
[22:52] <tekteen> professional_min: but I guess kubuntu is better
[22:52] <thecrono> its flash
[22:52] <professional_min> tekteen: which one could you recommend then?
[22:52] <Vermux> thecrono: In system settings, Im trying to go into Administrative mode under Monitor and Display, Hardware
[22:53] <tekteen> professional_min: kubuntu or none at all. My server runs none
[22:53] <Vermux> thecrono: it doesnt ask me for the passwd
[22:53] <thecrono> maby you don't need one?
[22:53] <Vermux> no, I cant access dialog boxes
[22:53] <nosredna_ekim> thecrono: nasty! did you try it again?
[22:53] <ahmos> I'm sorry but how I can know if the swap partition is working?
[22:53] <thecrono> scared to lol
[22:53] <thecrono> let me trty
[22:54] <Vermux> thecrono: it happaned also last time after I installed
[22:54] <professional_min> tekteen: but after successfull configuration of the server...can GUI be then disabled so that others cannot do anything to the server? since most of my collegues have no idea about linux command?
[22:55] <Vermux> the first time I tried to change the resolution it did ask me for the password. but since then, it never
[22:55] <tekteen> professional_min: yes
[22:55] <Vermux> thecrono: is there a known bug for that?
[22:55] <tekteen> professional_min: you just need to turn off kdm and x from starting on boot
[22:56] <jussi01> or just have a password....
[22:56] <professional_min> tekteen what's the command?
[22:56] <tekteen> professional_min: just make a password
[22:56]  * tekteen thanks jussi01
[22:56]  * tekteen has also lost his mind
[22:56] <professional_min> tekteen: what's the command to disable GUI on boot?
[22:56] <jussi01> !helpersnack > tekteen
[22:57] <thecrono> it crashed as soon as the box turned black
[22:57] <thecrono> it turns grey, then black, as soon as it turns black..freeze
[22:57] <tekteen> prg2g brb
[22:57] <jussi01> professional_min: there is no need to do that. just like on windows you can have a password when it boots
[22:57] <tekteen> g3g brb
[22:57] <professional_min> okay..
[22:58] <nosredna_ekim> thecrono: google and see if anyone else has had tha problem,I haven't heard of it yet
[22:58] <Riddell> ** Kubuntu meeting in a couple of minutes in #ubuntu-meeting
[22:58] <jussi01> thanks Riddell
[22:58] <tekteen> professional_min: I am back
[22:58] <professional_min> tekteen: you mean during start up what will appear in the screen will look like that of UBUNTU desktop? I've tried ubuntu desktop before actually.. and I like its welcome screen and login
[22:59] <tekteen> professional_min: It will look like the KUBUNTU login
[22:59] <tekteen> which I like
[22:59] <tekteen> you can find a screenshot online
[22:59] <professional_min> tekteen: can I have the link? thanks
[22:59] <tekteen> ok
[23:00] <ahmos> can anyone help me?
[23:00] <jussi01> !ask | ahmos
[23:00] <ubotu> ahmos: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:00] <Vermux> what is the command to launch Monitor & Display?
[23:01] <ahmos> how can i know if swap partition is working ?
[23:01] <tekteen> professional_min: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Tribe5/Kubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=smkdm.png
[23:01] <nosredna_ekim> ahmos: run "free -m" and see how swap you have
[23:02] <Vermux> why kubuntu doesnt let me go into Administrative mode in system Settings, in Monitor & Display?
[23:02] <professional_min> tekteen: it looks beautiful...
[23:02] <Vermux> I've just installed it
[23:02] <tekteen> professional_min: that will appear on boot
[23:03] <professional_min> tekteen: and after which it will go then to desktop. Right? Just like that in xp
[23:03] <tekteen> yep
[23:03] <now3d> nosredna_ekim: ace! it worked, i USB booted Kubuntu!!
[23:03] <nosredna_ekim> now3d: sweet
[23:03] <professional_min> tekteen: but again that's for ubuntu server installed with GUI to have a look like a desktop. Right?
[23:03] <ahmos> yes it is working ,the used space is14 M.B..thank u
[23:04] <tekteen> professional_min: yep
[23:04] <now3d> nosredna_ekim: i dunno why the installer didnt figure out that it needed to be hd(0,1) tho... also my "Japanese" install looks rather english to me..
[23:04] <Vermux> why kubuntu doesnt let me go into Administrative mode in system Settings, in Monitor & Display?
[23:04] <ahmos> but why my 1.0G.B ram is full?
[23:04] <tekteen> professional_min: linux does not know the diff between desktop and server. It is just what programs are installed
[23:04] <nosredna_ekim> ahmos: look at the line that says "=/- buffers and chace
[23:04] <nosredna_ekim> *+/-
[23:05] <BluesKaj> Vermux, in the terminal: sudo dpkg --configure -a , then relogfin
[23:05] <tekteen> professional_min: install the server part (it is hard to config. without there install tool) and then install the desktop ontop
[23:05] <BluesKaj> relogin
[23:05] <ahmos> 393 used   610 free
[23:06] <Vermux> BluesKaj: log out and log in from the kde?
[23:06] <BluesKaj> yeah
[23:06] <professional_min> tekteen: after  successful installation of ubuntu server...with LAMP of course...and tried to enter our static IP address what appears is the configuration page of the ADSL modem. what do you think?
[23:07] <Vermux> BluesKaj: it happaned also last time after I installed kubuntu
[23:07] <now3d> any idea how to enable Japanese input..? Normally it is Shift+Space, but that does not work..
[23:07] <tekteen> professional_min: I do not understand, Is this after the install?
[23:08] <Vermux> BluesKaj:  it doesnt work
[23:08] <thecrono> man, flahs is busted
[23:08] <thecrono> flash
[23:08] <Vermux> BluesKaj: maybe reboot?
[23:08] <professional_min> tekteen: yeah after the install. I'm using another PC connected in the LAN and internet
[23:08] <thecrono> ho here someone :D
[23:08] <thecrono> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3090739.0
[23:08] <thecrono> go*
[23:08] <Vermux> BluesKaj:  I think it is a bug in Kubuntu
[23:08] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: wonder why... did you see any similar problems on google?
[23:08] <BluesKaj> Vermux, maybe
[23:08] <tekteen> professional_min: so you want to create a staticip?
[23:09] <thecrono> all those problems crashed firefox..not froze my computer
[23:09] <Vermux> why kubuntu doesnt let me go into Administrative mode in system Settings, in Monitor & Display?  It is not the first time it happans after a fresh install
[23:09] <BluesKaj> Vermux, do you see the update manger in the panel ?...you may need to update some apps first
[23:09] <Daisuke_Ido> thecrono: why were you running it as superuser?
[23:09] <professional_min> tekteen: I have static IP actually assigned by our ISP. but when I typed it in the browser..what will appear is the configuration page ADSL modem
[23:09] <thecrono> vermuxes updated failed
[23:09] <BluesKaj> adept update manager
[23:10] <Daisuke_Ido> of course it wouldn'
[23:10] <thecrono> what Diasuke_Ido?
[23:10] <Daisuke_Ido> t install to there
[23:10] <tekteen> professional_min: oh
[23:10] <ahmos> nosredna_ekim:it is , 393 used ,610 free(but the mem line: 914 used ,89 free , 0 shared , 24 buffers ,496 cached)
[23:10] <Vermux> BluesKaj: the first thing after I installed Kubuntu I updated it
[23:10] <g2g591> vermux: idk, if you need to do administraive mode anyway, run kdesu systemsettings
[23:10] <tekteen> professional_min: if possible tell it to use dhcp
[23:10] <BluesKaj> Vermux, ok
[23:10] <Vermux> BluesKaj: it gave me an error at the end
[23:10] <tekteen> professional_min: this is NOT a linux thing
[23:10] <thecrono> Diasuke_Ido huh?
[23:10] <Vermux> something about the commit
[23:10] <Daisuke_Ido> i didn't stutter: why did you install it as superuser.  it doesn't go in /usr/anything
[23:11] <tekteen> professional_min: although I can still help
[23:11] <thecrono> if tis global it does
[23:11] <tekteen> professional_min: what are the choices?
[23:11] <professional_min> tekteen: how to help this ?
[23:11] <g2g591> Professional_min: if you're connected to a router, use dhcp, the router will give you the right external ip
[23:11] <Vermux> BluesKaj: so I did sudo apt-get-f install
[23:11] <BluesKaj> aha  Vermux ,, that explains the lack of admin options... you still have broken pkgs
[23:11] <thecrono> /home/thecrono/.mozilla didn't work either btw
[23:11] <tekteen> g2g591: his is setting up a cable modem
[23:12] <professional_min> you mean...webserver won't work with ADSL modem and switch alone?
[23:12] <BluesKaj> Vermux, can you install synaptic?
[23:12] <Daisuke_Ido> perhaps /home/sierra-x/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[23:12] <Daisuke_Ido> instead of just .mozilla
[23:12] <Vermux> BluesKaj: ok, now it asked me for the password, but still didnt give me the Administrative mode
[23:12] <tekteen> professional_min: the cable modem does not know how to reach the internet
[23:12] <thecrono> i don't have sierra-x/
[23:12] <Vermux> BluesKaj: what is it?
[23:12] <Daisuke_Ido> duh
[23:12] <Daisuke_Ido> that's my username :)
[23:12] <thecrono> i have /usr/lib/mozilla
[23:12] <tekteen> professional_min: that is the box the server plugs into
[23:13] <professional_min> tekteen: any solution that you could offer?
[23:13] <thecrono> i tried that awell, the plugin is installed fine..but its broken..is the ENTIER flash player jsut a .so file?
[23:13] <brian_> Thanks alot guys, You've been alot of help!
[23:13] <Daisuke_Ido> yes
[23:13] <Daisuke_Ido> and it isn't broken
[23:13] <tekteen> professional_min: also you know you are not allowed to run a webserver on dsl without a business plan
[23:13] <thecrono> about:plugin says shockwave flash player is installed
[23:14] <tekteen> professional_min: I think
[23:14] <tekteen> professional_min: you need to talk to Verison
[23:14] <Vermux> BluesKaj: I tried to run Adept_manager and it gave me the error: DCOP Communications error- there was an error setting up inter-process communications for kde
[23:14] <thecrono> oh man
[23:14] <Daisuke_Ido> either that or your computer just hates flash, which is a possibility, i suppose :\
[23:14] <thecrono> firefox is using libgnash
[23:14] <Daisuke_Ido> ah...
[23:14] <professional_min> tekteen: I contacted our ISP already.. I do have static IP. it's business plan
[23:14] <thecrono> how do i make ti use the other .so?
[23:14] <tekteen> professional_min: ok
[23:14] <tekteen> nm
[23:14] <Daisuke_Ido> lemme look real quick
[23:15] <tekteen> professional_min: so what is the static IP?
[23:15] <BluesKaj> Vermux, synaptic is a pkg manager like adept or apt , but it has the option to fix broken pkgs that are installed by either adept or apt.
[23:15] <thecrono> Shockwave Flash 8.0 r99. Gnash 0.8.1, the GNU Flash Player. Copyright © 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
[23:15] <Vermux> BluesKaj: "the message returned from the system was Authentication rejected, reason: none of the authontication protocols are supported and host-bast authentication failed
[23:15] <professional_min> I could actually ping our static ip
[23:15] <Vermux> BluesKaj: "please check that the dcopserver program is running"
[23:15] <tekteen> professional_min: this modem thing is something you may need to talk to Verizon about
[23:15] <professional_min> how to talk with verizon?
[23:15] <Vermux> BluesKaj: how do I manually install it?
[23:16] <tekteen> professional_min: call up support?
[23:16] <BluesKaj> Vermux, try: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[23:16] <Daisuke_Ido> could try removing gnash
[23:16] <professional_min> I'm from philippines..
[23:16] <Daisuke_Ido> that would be the first step :)
[23:16] <tekteen> professional_min: ok
[23:17] <thecrono> yeah
[23:17] <g2g591> professional_min: if your connected to a router, dhcp is fine as long as the router is set up
[23:17] <tekteen> professional_min: Is there a place to call?
[23:17] <tekteen> professional_min: I am sorry but I need to go.
[23:18] <tekteen> bye
[23:18] <professional_min> tekteen: thanks for the time..
[23:18] <tekteen> np
[23:18] <Vermux> BluesKaj: ok, I installed it
[23:18] <professional_min> g2g591: thanks for the idea...
[23:19] <thecrono> is it possiable to make 'kdesu dolphin' a desktop icon?
[23:19] <professional_min> g2g59i: are you suggesting that I need to buy a router for this?
[23:19] <Vermux> BluesKaj: what now?
[23:19] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: yes
[23:19] <BluesKaj> Vermux, ok open synaptic , clikck on edit/fixbroken packages /apply
[23:19] <thecrono> how?
[23:20] <Odd-rationale> thecrono: just put "kdesudo dolphin" as the command
[23:21] <tekteen> professional_min: I am back
[23:21] <Vermux> BluesKaj: do I have to choose everything that in the list?
[23:21] <professional_min> tekteen: thanks
[23:21] <tekteen> professional_min: so you have a way to call verizon?
[23:21] <professional_min> may I have the number/
[23:22] <professional_min> is it a person or organizationm?
[23:22] <Vermux> BluesKaj: I clicked on Fix Broken Packages but nothing happaned
[23:22] <thecrono> how do i do that?
[23:22] <Odd-rationale> thecrono: Try this: Right click the desktop and goto Create New --> Link to application
[23:22] <Odd-rationale> Tell me when you're there...
[23:22] <tekteen> professional_min: the place you got DSL from
[23:22] <tekteen> professional_min: who is your ISP?
[23:23] <professional_min> PLDT
[23:23] <tekteen> professional_min: oh. call them
[23:23] <now3d> hi again. sorry Konversaion crashed when i tried to enabkle japanese
[23:23] <professional_min> how will I tell them?
[23:23] <now3d> has anyone got japanese input working?
[23:24] <tekteen> professional_min: call the ISP and ask them
[23:24] <professional_min> what to configure... I tried to call them actually yesterday.. and they told me that it's an issue in our end..not theirs
[23:24] <tekteen> :-D
[23:24] <professional_min> it's more on configuration in our side..
[23:24] <Odd-rationale> thecrono: Are you there?
[23:25] <thecrono> yeah, one sec
[23:25] <tekteen> professional_min: We need more info to configure your side
[23:25] <BluesKaj> Vermux, I think you have to reboot again
[23:25] <professional_min> okay..
[23:25] <tekteen> professional_min: ask them how to setup the ADSL modem
[23:26] <Vermux> BluesKaj: now it seems to work
[23:26] <BluesKaj> Vermux, before you reboot , sudo apt-get update
[23:26] <Odd-rationale> thecrono: after that, go to the Application tab. Under Command put "kdesudo dolphin". Let me know if that works
[23:26] <Vermux> BluesKaj: Im too tired, I will continue tomorrow
[23:26] <ahmos> hello again ,what is the disk cache memory?
[23:27] <professional_min> tekteen: do you have ym? so that I could contact you anytime?
[23:27] <BluesKaj> Vermux, just do apt-get update first ...see what the output is
[23:27] <tekteen> professional_min: sure
[23:27] <Vermux> BluesKaj: I did, I got all this http addresses
[23:27] <Vermux> BluesKaj: REading packages list...done
[23:27] <BluesKaj> yes that's the repositories
[23:27] <tekteen> professional_min: I sent it to you
[23:28]  * ScorpKing waves..
[23:28] <professional_min> can you be contacted using yahoo messenger?
[23:28] <BluesKaj> that contain the applications , Vermux
[23:28] <tekteen> professional_min: yes
[23:28] <ScorpKing> BluesKaj: found what i was looking for. partition logic. heh
[23:28] <Vermux> BluesKaj: so is it fine?
[23:28] <jimmy51> stdin: I followed your advice and posted a request - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+bug/185217
[23:28] <thecrono> it worked Odd-rationale
[23:29] <BluesKaj> Vermux, check system settings /monitor &display
[23:29] <Odd-rationale> thecrono: Cheers!
[23:29] <stdin> jimmy51: yes I saw, I get bug emails for just about every kde package ;)
[23:29] <ahmos> what is the disk cache memory plz?!!!
[23:29] <professional_min> tekteen: are you online right now?
[23:29] <BluesKaj> the repositories are fine yes, Vermux
[23:29] <tekteen> yes
[23:29] <stdin> !mem
[23:29] <ubotu> A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[23:29] <Vermux> BluesKaj: it is good now
[23:29] <jimmy51> stdin:  oh, hehe.  did i do it right?
[23:29] <Vermux> thanks
[23:29] <Vermux> BluesKaj: thanks
[23:30] <BluesKaj> Vermux,YW
[23:30] <stdin> jimmy51: yeah, someone with power to decide on that will see it and examine if it's "worth it", so now you just have to wait
[23:31] <jimmy51> stdin:  ok, thanks.  i will wait anxiously.
[23:32] <thecrono> mozilla will not use libflashplayer.so
[23:32] <thecrono> :(
[23:32] <thecrono> or flashplugin what ever it was
[23:33] <Odd-rationale> !flash | thecrono
[23:33] <ubotu> thecrono: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[23:33] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[23:33] <thecrono> ..
[23:33] <thecrono> none of that works
[23:33] <thecrono> i had to install from adobe.com
[23:33] <thecrono> and even that didn't work
[23:33] <thecrono> so i had to manuallyplace the .so file
[23:33] <thecrono> but firefox won't use it'
[23:35] <thecrono> oh this isn'tgood, i did kdesu dolphin..and it says /home/is completely empty :O
[23:36] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: /home/thechrono?
[23:36] <thecrono> i don't know, it jsut says home
[23:37] <tom540> hey; i just installed kubuntu 7.10 kde4 fresh from a cd.. and I can't find any kind of network manager .. am I missing something here... ?
[23:37] <Odd-rationale> thecrono: That is probably the home or root. not you
[23:37] <thecrono> where is /home/thecrono/.mozilla ?
[23:38] <thecrono> i went to, in kdesu... /home/thecrono/...and nothing
[23:38] <nosrednaekim> tom540: "sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager" and kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde4
[23:38] <thecrono> no .mozilla
[23:38] <SlimeyPete> anythig with a . before it is hidden
[23:38] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: any . folder will be hidden, type in maually into the location bar
[23:38] <SlimeyPete> won't turn up in file browsers
[23:38] <tom540> nosrednaekim; that'll be kind of hard when I can't connect to the internet at all.
[23:38] <tom540> nosrednaekim that'll be kind of hard when I can't connect to the internet at all. (sorry, don't think that went through.. this stupid client puts bold in text sometimes)
[23:38] <thecrono> there is no location bar in dolphin
[23:39] <thecrono> your connected to the net now tom540
[23:39] <tom540> I'm on a different computer?
[23:39] <nosrednaekim> tom540: oh...very true :) the kde4 liveCD is not really meant to be installed.do you have wireless?
[23:39] <nosrednaekim> tom540: it did
[23:39] <tom540> yes, I have wireless.. I didn't want to install kde4 overtop of 3.5.8, so I just did a fresh install
[23:39] <thecrono> so how do i do this?
[23:39] <ScorpKing> thecrono: you have to click on Root (red) then home
[23:40] <tom540> I also have wired, but without a networking manager.. it's kind of hard =/
[23:40] <nosrednaekim> tom540: wired is simple without a networkmanager, just plug it in and run "sudo dhclient eth0"
[23:40] <Daisuke_Ido> soo...  has ati gotten to the point where it's recommendable?
[23:40] <tom540> k; hold on
[23:40] <thecrono> theres no plugins folder in.mozilla
[23:41] <thecrono>  :(
[23:41] <sub[t]rnl> thecrono➜ click on view, then show hidden files.
[23:41] <sub[t]rnl> explore an application a little bit, it'll be good for you
[23:41] <ScorpKing> thecrono: ~.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[23:41] <Daisuke_Ido> thecrono: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins ?
[23:41] <Daisuke_Ido> ScorpKing: global
[23:41] <ScorpKing> ah
[23:41] <thecrono> global won't work
[23:41] <thecrono> mozilla won't use any plugins in global
[23:43] <tom540> wow, thanks nos. you are the man. i should be able to fair well from here.
[23:43] <thecrono> i have the best news in the universe
[23:43] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[23:43] <thecrono> application/x-shockwave-flash 	Shockwave Flash 	swf 	Yes
[23:43] <thecrono> application/futuresplash 	FutureSplash Player 	spl 	Yes
[23:43] <thecrono> :O
[23:43] <Daisuke_Ido> awesome
[23:43] <ScorpKing> :) haha
[23:43] <thecrono> now lets see how long ti takes to crash
[23:43] <Daisuke_Ido> just gnash interfering?
[23:44] <ScorpKing> thecrono: konqueror should be able to use those and have flash
[23:44] <thecrono> i deleted gnash mozilla plugin froma dept
[23:44] <thecrono> adept
[23:44] <thecrono> tchecking youtube now
[23:44] <thecrono> PWNT
[23:44] <thecrono> it works :D
[23:44]  * thecrono celebrates
[23:44] <thecrono> now i got a new problem
[23:45]  * ScorpKing stops celebrating..
[23:45] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: haha
[23:45] <Daisuke_Ido> what's the new problem?
[23:45] <thecrono> let me pick oen, one sec
[23:45] <SlimeyPete> thecrono: I swear you were sent here to test us ;)
[23:46] <ScorpKing> haha
[23:46] <Daisuke_Ido> SlimeyPete: not a bad thing though.
[23:46] <thecrono> hrm
[23:46] <thecrono> this may jsut be grphical, but it says two partitions are disabled...
[23:46] <thecrono> even though i can rbwose them
[23:47] <thecrono> but, i cannot fine my /extra/ partition
[23:47] <thecrono>  er, /spare/
[23:48] <ScorpKing> bedtime for me. nite guys
[23:48] <SlimeyPete> thecrono: run "mount" in a terminal, it'll tell you everything that's mounted, and where
[23:48] <thecrono> /dev/sda7 on /spare type ext3 (rw)
[23:48] <thecrono> that'sit..but, i cannot find it
[23:48] <thecrono> in dolphin
[23:49] <[ka]killer> @_@
[23:49] <val0> i am trying to mount a USB HD through Dolphin and get "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused on uid 1000" any clue?
[23:49]  * [ka]killer sweats
[23:49] <SlimeyPete> thecrono: so you're clicking on Root on the left and it's not showing up in the list?
[23:49] <[ka]killer> ok i just got a new 500gb drive
[23:49] <thecrono> no, /spare/isnt there
[23:49] <[ka]killer> formatted to reiserfs
[23:50] <thecrono> why is dolphin the default bwosers anyways?..isn't it exprimental software?
[23:50] <SlimeyPete> thecrono: hmm, what about if you run "ls /" in a terminal?
[23:50] <[ka]killer> how do i change the mount point 0_0
[23:50] <thecrono> oh, i found it
[23:50] <SlimeyPete> thecrono: it's newish but pretty stable
[23:50] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: so into systemsettings->advanced->disks and filesystems
[23:50] <tekteen>  is it automounting? [ka]killer
[23:50] <[ka]killer> no
[23:50] <[ka]killer> thats the problem
[23:51] <tekteen> is it in fstab?
[23:51] <thecrono> hrm, i know i got soem more problems.. how do i install GTK+ 1.2?
[23:51] <[ka]killer> i dont think so
[23:51] <[ka]killer> i just put it in -_-
[23:51] <[ka]killer> how do i edit fstab
[23:51] <tekteen> [ka]killer: was it in when you logged in?
[23:51] <thecrono> i neeed, #  Gtk+ 1.2
[23:51] <thecrono> # Python 2.2 or newer
[23:51] <thecrono> # wxPythonGTK 2.6.0 or newer
[23:51] <[ka]killer> no tekteen, i just installed the drive
[23:52] <[ka]killer> and it will not let me mount it
[23:52] <thecrono> ive no idea how to get those, i did adept search and got fourty-leven results
[23:52] <tekteen> [ka]killer: did you take it out and put it back in
[23:52] <[ka]killer> are you understanding that its a brand new drive?
[23:52] <tekteen> yes
[23:52] <[ka]killer> i pulled one of the old drives and put this one in
[23:52] <[ka]killer> i think thats causing a conflict
[23:52] <tekteen> oh
[23:53] <fernando> wow, a lott of people in here
[23:53] <tekteen> it is not external @.@
[23:53] <[ka]killer> no.. no it is not
[23:53] <[ka]killer> IDE
[23:53] <articpenguin3800> is kubuntu 8.04 going to be based on kde4
[23:53] <tekteen> [ka]killer: and you are replacing another?
[23:53] <fernando> they told so
[23:54] <tekteen> articpenguin3800: yes
[23:54] <Daisuke_Ido> articpenguin3800: two releases to my knowledge, neither one a LTS release
[23:54] <tekteen> articpenguin3800: it will have both
[23:54] <[ka]killer> how this is going to work, is im pulling the data off of the one thats in there now, pulling it, putting the other one in, copying the files to the new drive then reinstallign the first drive
[23:54] <tekteen> ok
[23:55] <tekteen> have you ever used the command line?
[23:55] <tom540> nosrednaekim; you still here? i can't even get knetworkmanager to scan wirelessly..
[23:55] <[ka]killer> why yes
[23:55] <Daisuke_Ido> thecrono: what are you trying to install that requires a version of GTK+ that old?
[23:55] <[ka]killer> ive done this before its just been a while -_-
[23:55] <nosrednaekim> tom540: yep...
[23:55] <tekteen> the command to mount is mount
[23:55] <[ka]killer> yes
[23:55] <[ka]killer> i tried that
[23:55] <thecrono> PySoulSeek
[23:55] <thecrono> p2p
[23:55] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh
[23:55] <thecrono> maby i can use somethign newer
[23:55] <Daisuke_Ido> it's been deprecated for a looong time
[23:55] <val0> i am trying to mount a USB HD through Dolphin and get "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused on uid 1000" any clue?
[23:55] <tekteen> mount /dev/hdb /mountpoint
[23:55] <Daisuke_Ido> install nicotine+
[23:55] <tom540> nosrednaekim; well, I installed knetworkmanager.. but when I plugged in the ethernet cable, it didn't even auto connect.. i had to type the comamnd you gave me last time. and it doesn't even scan for wireless networks.. any idea?
[23:56] <thecrono> really?
[23:56] <Daisuke_Ido> (newer fork of pysoulseek, in the repos, too :)
[23:56] <thecrono> nicotine+ have alot of..erm..cough mp3?
[23:56] <thecrono> cough
[23:56] <tekteen> [ka]killer: what is the error message?
[23:56] <Daisuke_Ido> it's soulseek
[23:56] <Daisuke_Ido> so
[23:56] <thecrono> ah, same servers as soulseek?
[23:56] <Daisuke_Ido> *cough*yes*cough*
[23:56] <thecrono> cough
[23:56] <tekteen> when you try to mount
[23:56] <nosrednaekim> tom540: try doing "kdesudo kate /etc/network/interfaces"
[23:56] <nosrednaekim> thecrono: someone has been smoking a little too much.... nicotine..
[23:56] <[ka]killer> john@Jimmy:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdc /mnt/disk
[23:56] <[ka]killer> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[23:57] <Daisuke_Ido> it's just the newer pysoulseek, that's all it is.  got a name change because he wanted to release a program called nicotine, and then release patches for it :D
[23:57] <thecrono> apt-get nicotine+ ?
[23:57] <tekteen> ok
[23:57] <tekteen> hold on
[23:57] <Daisuke_Ido> !find nicotine
[23:57] <ubotu> Found: nicotine
[23:57] <Daisuke_Ido> !info nicotine
[23:57] <ubotu> nicotine (source: nicotine): graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.8+dfsg-1 (gutsy), package size 609 kB, installed size 2924 kB
[23:57] <[ka]killer> its formatted as reiserfs
[23:57] <Daisuke_Ido> there you go
[23:57] <tekteen> mount -t reiserfs ...
[23:57] <Daisuke_Ido> just nicotine
[23:58] <[ka]killer> john@Jimmy:~$ sudo mount -t reiserfs /dev/sdc /mnt/disk
[23:58] <[ka]killer> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc,
[23:58] <[ka]killer>        missing codepage or other error
[23:58] <[ka]killer>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[23:58] <[ka]killer>        dmesg | tail  or so
[23:58] <thecrono> if its more than 5 lines use pastebin
[23:58] <tom540> nosrednaekim; http://www.pastebin.ca/870315
[23:58] <[ka]killer> sorry
[23:59] <thecrono> [5 line sis my own limit btw]
[23:59] <stdin> [ka]killer: /dev/sdc is the entire disk, try mounting only one partition
[23:59] <thecrono> oaste.ubuntu.org [right?]
[23:59] <tekteen> try reiser instead of reiserfs
[23:59] <thecrono> !paste
[23:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[23:59] <[ka]killer> the entire disk is only one partition -__
[23:59] <thecrono> there ya go killer
[23:59] <articpenguin3800> reiser is reiserfs
[23:59] <tekteen> I know
[23:59] <Daisuke_Ido> [ka]killer: you still have to specify a partition
[23:59] <tekteen> oh


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