[03:20] <ubotu> aidan: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:20] <Xerocide> Alright, I am trying to burn the iso at 1x write speed.  There shouldn't be any problems, right?
[03:20] <Doc_Bio> need help making wireless work with edgy eft.
[03:20] <joselj> but i'm some confused... in the beryl installation guide http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX says hoy to enable aiglx in Edgy
[03:20] <thoreauputic> Xerocide: theoretically, no :)
[03:20] <LjL> pbureau: ah, that certainly sounds like something different from off-the-shell 10 floppy drives ;-) still, nice to know that Windows has included software support for that.
[03:21] <joselj> but i don't understand why if it is enabled by default
[03:21] <LiENUS> im out
[03:21] <pbureau> LjL, yeah, giveme a minute now I have to test the theory.. and see.. brbr
[03:21] <logikon> joselj: wanna try it in portuguese?
[03:21] <LjL> aidan, do you have universe and multiverse enabled? if not, enable them. then use that long "sudo apt-get install ...." line
[03:21] <joselj> do you mean a portufese guide
[03:21] <logikon> yeah
[03:21] <joselj> sorry portuguese
[03:21] <tom47> Xerocide i usually turn all other programs off b4 i burn such as irc which is just as likely to interrupt a burn at precisely the wrong moment
[03:22] <logikon> or help either
[03:22] <starry> logikon: alright
[03:22] <vivabenfica> hi all
[03:22] <logikon> joselj: try /join #ubuntu-br
[03:22] <Hansin321> How does "sysv-rc-conf" compare to "update-rc.d"?  I know I read somewhere that one did a better job of "tracking" the changes?  Or was that another command?
[03:22] <logikon> hi vivabenfica, you from portugal?
[03:22] <LjL> Hansin321: i don't know, but i don't think update-rc.d tracks much of anything
[03:22] <pbureau> LjL,  nope ... no auto mount on auto-grab-load drive . oh well
[03:22] <vivabenfica> logikon, no, but my wife is
[03:23] <vivabenfica> and i am a big fan
[03:23] <vivabenfica> of benfica
[03:23] <pbureau> LjL, not like I have use this floppy drive in years anyways
[03:23] <LjL> !offtopic
[03:23] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:23] <vivabenfica> sorry for being off topic
[03:23] <joselj> sorry i don't speak portuguese but i speak spanish
[03:23] <kevin_> how good is ubuntu support for tablet pc's?
[03:23] <vivabenfica> anyway
[03:23] <Hansin321> I think update-rc.d is more lower level maybe.  Just curious.  Thanks.
[03:23] <pbureau> joejaxx,  check #ubuntu-sp then
[03:23] <thoreauputic> Hansin321: update-rc.d is pretty basic actually - there is a garphical tool called "bum" boot up manager
[03:23] <catalytic> any tips on where to start installing my onboard soundcard drivers that the ubuntu install cd didnt pick up?
[03:23] <logikon> i'll try the last one.. i'm little tired
[03:24] <tom47> joselj perhaps #ubuntu-es
[03:24] <riotkittie> kevin_: fedex me your tablet and i'll test it and let you know :> heh heh
[03:24] <thoreauputic> Hansin321: but probably not much use on a server :)
[03:24] <startswithz> hello everyone can someone tell me how to set up SDL?
[03:24] <emun> well , this floppy thing and mounting has got me confused, when i open places on ubuntu , i see floppy1, floppy drive, cd-rw, hde3 which is my second partition, filesystem. There is no sign of my first partition which has ubuntu on it
[03:24] <kevin_> haha, riot
[03:24] <LjL> startswithz: define "set up"
[03:24] <Doc_Bio> no one can help me with my wireless question?
[03:24] <pbureau> well time for some R&R,  (clean barn, feed horses, tend to sick wife and possibly 30min-1hr of cod2) cheers mates have a good one
[03:24] <aidan> LjL no idea
[03:24] <startswithz> LjL I need it to work
[03:24] <LjL> emun: right, that's because it's always mounted. it's "filesystem" anyway
[03:25] <joselj> thanks 4tom47 and pbureau
[03:25] <vivabenfica> i want to repartition drive, including partitions that are mounted as part of the system (i have separate partitions for /, /boot, swap, /usr, /tmp, /home, /var. i want to reallocate the space. how can i do this
[03:25] <LjL> startswithz: have you installed it?
[03:25] <startswithz> LjL where do I get it? how do I make it work etc
[03:25] <riotkittie> emun: file system is your ubuntu partition
[03:25] <LjL> !find libsdl | startswithz
[03:25] <ubotu> Found: libsdl-image1.2, libsdl-image1.2-dev, libsdl-mixer1.2, libsdl-mixer1.2-dev, libsdl-ttf2.0-0 (and 28 others)
[03:25] <LjL> startswithz: perhaps it would help if you specified what *program* you need to work with SDL
[03:25] <startswithz> sauerbraten
[03:25] <startswithz> cube 2
[03:25] <emun> Ljl, i see , thank you soo much i get it now
[03:26] <wayward>  /j #ruby
[03:26] <johan__> can i erase the initial user that created ubuntu and create another user with all its rights
[03:26] <startswithz> Ljl I need it for cube 2
[03:26] <Karark|away> i just got a new HDD and want to transfer all to the new HDD, how can i do this?
[03:27] <EvanS> hey, I upgraded to edgy and now I can't seem to get my wireless goinng with my DWL-G650M anymore, i have the drivers loaded into ndiswrapper
[03:27] <cablesm102> johan__, you can create another user with all possible rights, then delete the old one from the new one
[03:27] <LjL> startswithz: try installing libsdl-image1.2, for starters
[03:27] <onlybui> hey is there a bug for the new apple nano 4GB?
[03:27] <johan__> how do i give the rights to new user
[03:27] <carrera594> I believe I read about the "ubuntu install.exe" that it takes drivers from windows and uses it in linux, is this correct?
[03:27] <emun> Ljl, so when i put a floppy disk in the floppy drive , do i right click on it and click mount?
[03:27] <johan__> could you direct me to a howto
[03:27] <LjL> emun, as i said, i don't use GNOME, so i don't really know, but that sounds plausible
[03:27] <threeonefour> Karark|away, man dd
[03:27] <startswithz> ljl thanks I couldn't figure out what the hell to tell apt-get to install
[03:28] <cablesm102> johan__, you can choose all rights when you create the user
[03:28] <wellstevesays> how do i find out my network ip?
[03:28] <johan__> with useradd?
[03:28] <startswithz> ljl ok now it says I need sdl-config
[03:28] <LjL> startswithz: you might need some of the others too, such as -mixer... do an "apt-cache search libsdl-", it'll show them all. you don't need the "-dev" ones, unless you're compiling those games from source
[03:28] <cablesm102> carrera594, no. It just allows one to install Ubuntu without partitioning or burning a CD
[03:28] <johan__> network ip : ifconfig
[03:28] <EvanS> hey, I upgraded to edgy and now I can't seem to get my wireless goinng with my DWL-G650M anymore, i have the drivers loaded into ndiswrapper
[03:29] <EvanS> going*
[03:29] <cablesm102> EvanS, your card is mentioned in this list: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[03:29] <onlybui> can anyone tell me if this is my problem https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/66068
[03:29] <stephans> hi -- how do I mount a file system (NTFS) so regular users can see it... ?
[03:29] <carrera594> i know that but i thought i read that during the installion process it would take drivers out to use in ubuntu
[03:29] <EvanS> cablesm102, i already have the drivers loaded into ndiswrapper
[03:29] <threeonefour> Karark|away, dd if=/dev/hda1 of /dev/hdb1
[03:29] <onlybui> my 4GB nano says wrong file system but I checked in windows and it says its in fat32
[03:29] <Karark|away> threeonefour, thanks
[03:30] <threeonefour> Karark|away, something like that
[03:30] <stephans> hi -- how do I mount a file system (NTFS) so regular users can see it... ?
[03:30] <Karark|away> onlybui, try booting ubuntu with the ipod connected
[03:30] <wellstevesays> Anyone know how to find your network IP (ex: <IP_ADDRESS>) in Ubuntu?
[03:30] <aboutblank> wellstevesays: ifconfig in terminal
[03:30] <wellstevesays> that ez?
[03:30] <wellstevesays> eh i feel dumb.
[03:30] <Karark|away> wellstevesays, 68-83-123-99
[03:31] <Karark|away> is ur IP
[03:31] <aboutblank> wellstevesays : it gives output similiar to ipconfig on windows
[03:31] <wellstevesays> Internal IP
[03:31] <wellstevesays> not external Karark
[03:31] <Karark|away> ah, nm
[03:31] <wellstevesays> ipconfig didnt work
[03:31] <wellstevesays> And I never used Windows
[03:31] <aboutblank> mac user?
[03:31] <johan__> ifconfig
[03:31] <thoreauputic> wellstevesays: ifconfig, not ipconfig
[03:31] <wellstevesays> eh :P
[03:31] <johan__> not ipconfig iFconfig
[03:31] <Karark|away> wellstevesays, try going to network manager and looking around
[03:31] <wellstevesays> thx
[03:32] <Doc_Bio> so why can't i install network manager on this computer.?
[03:32] <johan__> i think ipconfig is a doc cmd
[03:32] <johan__> doc=dos
[03:32] <Doc_Bio> centrino laptop...running edgy eft
[03:32] <bobovski> hi all. if I'm using ssh in the terminal, how do I connect so that I'm prompted to enter a user name instead of it defaulting to my localhost login?
[03:32] <Hansin321> thoreauputic: I just downloaded "sysv-rc-conf" from Universe.  It is a ncurses perl script (did I say that right?).  Seems like it will do the trick.  Thanks for the info.
[03:32] <Doc_Bio> i386 install
[03:32] <EvanS> hey, I upgraded to edgy and now I can't seem to get my wireless goinng with my DWL-G650M anymore, i have the drivers loaded into ndiswrapper (it says net5513:hardware present-yes)
[03:32] <wellstevesays> Eh TightVNC doesn't want to let me connect.
[03:32] <bobobo_> ssh username@ipaddress
[03:32] <thoreauputic> Hansin321: cool, enjoy :)
[03:33] <startswithz> ljl it is still unable to find the sdl-config
[03:33] <aboutblank> i have a very strange problem: my time will not stay synchronized between my windows and ubuntu dual boot setup. hours off! when i reset one, the other is wrong. Any idea what's going on?
[03:33] <momo> I need help getting my wireless connection up and running on my laptop after installing ubuntu. Under system/networking i can see a   wireless connection that i have enable and set up with all the security info for my wireless network, but i does not connect, any hint, suggestion, instructions will be great!!!
[03:33] <rotero> I've reconfigured X (dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg), but I don't see all the screen resolutions I enabled in System > Preferences > Screen Resolution.  Is this because I manually set the resolutions but let dpkg-reconfigure autodetect some of the display properties?
[03:33] <ramiro> #mossoro
[03:33] <bobovski> aboutblank: how do the times compare with thte clock in the bios?
[03:34] <LjL> startswithz: then i guess you *are* compiling. install libsdl1.2-dev
[03:34] <aboutblank> bobovski : good question, i'im not sure.
[03:34] <sixpointeight> I NEED URGENT HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:34] <aboutblank> bobovski : does the OS have the power to modify the bios clock?
[03:34] <sid> What is a good rss feed reader for Ubuntu? I have two laptops and a desktop and I often switch back and forth throughout the day, I wanted to easily be able to have my read/unread status of rss feeds to be intact as I switch from one computer to the next.
[03:34] <bobovski> sixpointeight: you sure do...your caps lock is stuck on
[03:34] <sid> Is there any rss feed reader that can do this easily?
[03:34] <LjL> !caps | sixpointeight
[03:34] <ubotu> sixpointeight: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:35] <bobovski> aboutblank: I don't think so
[03:35] <momo> hello
[03:35] <rotero> sid:  Why not use Google Reader?
[03:35] <LjL> aboutblank: it sure does
[03:35] <johan__> how would i go about to create a user named say "root" and give that user all the rights
[03:35] <thoreauputic> !caps | sixpointeight
[03:35] <aboutblank> yeah sid that's probably your best route
[03:35] <bobobo_> johan - root is there by default
[03:35] <sixpointeight> my boot image is stuck in klamav quarantine, how o i get it out?
[03:35] <EvanS> hey, I upgraded to edgy and now I can't seem to get my wireless goinng with my DWL-G650M anymore, i have the drivers loaded into ndiswrapper (it says net5513:hardware present-yes), but the lights are still not turning on and i don't know what to do, please help
[03:35] <bobovski> aboutblank: I stand corrected
[03:35] <danf_1979> I need to repartition my disk (remotely) in a dedicated server. The server has one large / partition and swap. I need to generate /tmp /var /usr and /home, is this possible? May I just resize / and then create the other partitions? I ask because / partition will be in use at that time. What should I do ? No one has done this????
[03:35] <startswithz> johan__ why do you want a root account?
[03:35] <sid> rotero: I like using applications on my system. Google has enough peoples information without including mine.
[03:35] <LjL> bobovski, aboutblank: when you change the time in the OS, the change is most certainly retained by the battery clock, and that's the BIOS time
[03:36] <thoreauputic> LjL: you keep doing what I was about to do, and I keep not noticing! Sorry :)
[03:36] <wellstevesays> Anyone have experience with TightVNC? Does it only give you access to Terminal?
[03:36] <johan__> to use ubuntu
[03:36] <aboutblank> wellstevesays : i have experience with vnc. it gives access to a graphical desktop
[03:36] <bobovski> LjL: so the OS has access to the CMOS battery settings, then?
[03:36] <johan__> i have no working user on my box
[03:36] <thoreauputic> wellstevesays: no, it gives full graphical access
[03:36] <startswithz> ljl it is still not giving me the same error message
[03:36] <wellstevesays> I'm only getting a terminal, any clue why?
[03:36] <LjL> bobovski: yes, although i suspect there is a standard BIOS interface that it uses, instead of just poking into the NVRAM
[03:36] <bobobo_> johan - really?  I don't know how to fix that
[03:36] <bobovski> LjL: cool, thanks
[03:37] <sixpointeight> please some on help.
[03:37] <johan__> i want to create a root to have one login that can do everything
[03:37] <EvanS> hey, I upgraded to edgy and now I can't seem to get my wireless goinng with my DWL-G650M anymore, i have the drivers loaded into ndiswrapper (it says net5513:hardware present-yes), but the lights are still not turning on and i don't know what to do, it was working fine on dapper drake, please please help
[03:37] <aboutblank> wellstevesays : basically pipes the screen over the network.
[03:37] <rotero> sid:  Yeah, I hear you.  I felt the same way not too long ago.  I like knowing that the data is on my drive, ready to go.  But Google Reader is pretty darn convenient.  Doesn't matter if I'm at home, at work, somewhere with a laptop.  All the feeds are there and synchronized.
[03:37] <seww> "No DHCPOFFERS received", what is wrong?
[03:37] <bobovski> has anyone else had issues with the power management application wrt laptops?
[03:37] <wellstevesays> aboutblank: I connected but I just get a terminal
[03:37] <LjL> thoreauputic, happens to everyone, at least the bot is smart enough to not repeat anyway ;)=
[03:37] <threeonefour> seww, when do you see this
[03:37] <johan__> if root is there by default what is its password
[03:37] <thoreauputic> LjL: true
[03:37] <aboutblank> wellstevesays : sorry, i'm not sure tbh. brb gotta reboot and check bios clock
[03:37] <bobovski> I want standby on lid close, but it's not working
[03:37] <momo> hell
[03:38] <johan__> can i sudo passwd root
[03:38] <aboutblank> how do you quit bitchx?
[03:38] <aboutblank> oh..
[03:38] <bobovski> hehe
[03:38] <bobovski> looks like he figured it out
[03:38] <seww> threeonefour, when i did ifdown and the ifup
[03:38] <cefx> How can I change from half-duplex to full-duplex in Kubuntu?
[03:38] <bobobo_> johan - I'm not sure about that, but I know you can sudo su
[03:38] <jrib> !root | johan__
[03:38] <thoreauputic> johan__: you can. It's kind of pointless, but you can
[03:38] <ubotu> johan__: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:38] <momo> can someone help me get my wireless connection going on my laptop?????????????????????????????????????
[03:38] <bobobo_> johan - then you could run passwd
[03:38] <calvarez> is it recommended to run beryl over a specific desktop environment? like, is it better to run it along GNOME over KDE or XFCE?
[03:38] <johan__> why is it pointless
[03:38] <EvanS> hey, I upgraded to edgy and now I can't seem to get my wireless goinng with my DWL-G650M anymore, i have the drivers loaded into ndiswrapper (it says net5513:hardware present-yes), but the lights are still not turning on and i don't know what to do, it was working fine on dapper drake, please please help, i've been in here for 10 minutes and nobody has acknowledged my existence
[03:38] <threeonefour> seww, are you connected to a router
[03:38] <LjL> startswithz, then i'm stuck. i can positively say that sdl-config *is* found in libsdl1.2-dev
[03:38] <seww> threeonefour, yes.
[03:38] <sixpointeight> can someone tell me how to get my boot image out of quarantine, i have been in this room and sked this question several times.
[03:38] <Toma-> calvarez: yes
[03:38] <thoreauputic> momo: a few less question marks, please - we saw the first one
[03:39] <momo> sorry
[03:39] <bobovski> EvanS: I wish I could help, I just got wireless running in dapper and it was out of the box easy :(
[03:39] <thoreauputic> johan__: because you can do everything with sudo and sudo -i
[03:39] <calvarez> Toma-, can you expand? Is it better to run it over GNOME, over other desktop environments?
[03:39] <threeonefour> seww, try to uplugg the power for 10 seconds then plug it back it   then it should work
[03:39] <rotero> Does anyone know why reconfiguring X would cause Amarok's tray icon to stop working (i.e. not appear)?  It's enabled in the prefs, but still doesn't show up.
[03:39] <thoreauputic> johan__: and gksudo
[03:40] <seww> threeonefour, are you serious? if you are, unplug the comp or router?
[03:40] <danny> Help! I'm totally new to linux and I'm running Kubuntu. My monitor resolution is stuck at 640 x 480 and I can't change it. When I first installed Ubuntu it had me set at a much higher resolution, but then I changed it and now I can't change it again.
[03:40] <bobovski> rotero: have you apt-get removed and reinstalled amarok?
[03:40] <Toma-> calvarez: since it uses more resources, id recommend something like XFCE. BUT having said that, most PC's can handle gnome + beryl! Do you have a recent PC?
[03:40] <threeonefour> seww, i am serious  just the router
[03:40] <EvanS> bobovski: :(. well, under network settings i can even only see modem connection under the connections tab
[03:40] <seww> threeonefour, ok
[03:40] <seww> threeonefour, thanks.
[03:40] <EvanS> i can't see an eth0 or wlan0
[03:40] <threeonefour> np
[03:40] <bobovski> EvanS: then the card isn't being recognized, check the wiki for solutions
[03:41] <Vigo> danny: Have you searched the Forums?
[03:41] <rotero> bobovski:  Nope, not yet.  I'll try.
[03:41] <danny> I have searched the forums and that has not helped.
[03:41] <bobovski> EvanS: what chipset is the wireless card is it minipci or an external card?
[03:41] <BoredTurkishGuy> gusy i cant get this beryl manager work on edgy
[03:41] <BoredTurkishGuy> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'Backends'
[03:41] <BoredTurkishGuy>
[03:41] <calvarez> Toma-, Pentium M 2Ghz, 1Gb RAM, GeForce Go FX 5600
[03:41] <BoredTurkishGuy> says
[03:41] <EvanS> bobovski: it worked fine in dapper drake, why not anymore? :(
[03:41] <calvarez> I think it should run fine, shouldn't it?
[03:41] <Toma-> calvarez: yeh that'll be fine.
[03:41] <bobovski> EvanS:dunno, I haven't moved to edgy yet
[03:41] <sid> rotero: But I want to be able to read the feeds offline.
[03:42] <EvanS> bobovski: it is a pcmia card
[03:42] <Toma-> calvarez: better yet, make 2 beryl launchers, one for xfce and one for gnome and give them both a run
[03:42] <calvarez> Toma-, does beryl favor a GNOME installation?
[03:42] <bobovski> EvanS: what brand etc?
[03:42] <sid> ie I can fire up my laptop grab feeds with liferea then jump in the car and read them without an Internet connection.
[03:42] <sid> all that ajax crap won't let me do that.
[03:42] <johan__> thats my problem sudo onlu works with the initial user not with the new i created
[03:42] <EvanS> D-Link DWL-G650M
[03:42] <calvarez> I'm not so much for XFCE atm, I'm more like in between KDE or GNOME
[03:42] <Toma-> calvarez: it favors kde, xfce and gnome. as they all have modular window managers
[03:42] <johan__> i did useradd -m bob
[03:42] <onlybui> can anyone tell me if my nano is setup for raid? so I can apply a bug fix?
[03:42] <bobovski> EvanS: have you chacked the wiki?
[03:42] <onlybui> I get this error msg when I try to connect my nano mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc,
[03:42] <onlybui>        missing codepage or other error
[03:42] <onlybui>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[03:42] <onlybui>        dmesg | tail  or so
[03:42] <EvanS> the ndiswrapper wiki yes
[03:42] <onlybui> if you have a nvidia card just use nviida-settings
[03:43] <ramiro> como fao pra entrar num canal do rn
[03:43] <rotero> sid:  You're right.  Unfortunately, I don't have any suggestions.  I'm sure someone must be doing that, though.
[03:43] <johan__> how come the user i create cant use sudo
[03:43] <BoredTurkishGuy> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'Backends'
[03:43] <BoredTurkishGuy>  what is this error for guys..
[03:43] <ramiro> alguem sabe
[03:43] <johan__> i do sudo and it says password incorrect
[03:43] <ramiro> pode me falar
[03:43] <sid> johan__: groups user; groups yourusername;
[03:43] <calvarez> ramiro, rn?
[03:43] <thoreauputic> johan__: because only the first user is in admin group by default
[03:43] <ramiro> isso
[03:43] <johan__> i see thaks
[03:43] <calvarez> ramiro, eu falo espanol, que es rn?
[03:43] <EvanS> bobovski: i added the driver that it told me to in the ndiswrapper wiki
[03:43] <seww> "No DHCPOFFERS received", what is wrong?
[03:43] <tonyyarusso> !br | ramiro
[03:43] <ubotu> ramiro: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:44] <thoreauputic> johan__: you can add other users to "admin"
[03:44] <ramiro> Rio grando do norte
[03:44] <ramiro> como fao
[03:44] <MajorPayne> Where is the proper place to put system wide path variables in Ubuntu?
[03:44] <Broam> Hello #ubuntu.
[03:44] <calvarez> ramiro, go to #ubuntu-br
[03:44] <calvarez> ramiro, /join #ubuntu-br
[03:44] <Toma-> MajorPayne: /etc/bashrc or something?
[03:44] <jrib> MajorPayne: /etc/environment
[03:44] <calvarez> y pregunte ahi
[03:45] <vir1980> Hola, que tal estan mi nombre Luis Monzon
[03:46] <thoreauputic> ######## News Flash###### this is an english channel
[03:46] <Broam> !es
[03:46] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:46] <ramiro> vlw velho
[03:46] <bobovski> EvanS: it's not the one where you have to also have the win .sys file as well is it?
[03:46] <DCR|> What is "Round to Cylinders" mean?
[03:46] <DCR|> When partitioning
[03:46] <ramiro> tu entende perfeito o portugues ne?
[03:46] <vir1980> gracias
[03:46] <Broam> vir1980: de nada
[03:46] <Vigo> !vir1980|es
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vir1980 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <EvanS> bobovski: nope,
[03:46] <MajorPayne> jrib: Ahh, thanks, I couldn't find it in all the other places I normally look.
[03:46] <Vigo> whoops
[03:47] <bobovski> er, the inf file, but whatever
[03:47] <Broam> DCR|:  it involves using the hard drive's physical characteristics to determine partition size. Yes, that's a bit of a cop-out ;)
[03:47] <PORDO> anyone know how i could record the audio from a flash app?
[03:47] <Vigo> !es
[03:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:47] <DCR|> So leave it checked?
[03:47] <Broam> DCR|: I usually do
[03:47] <DCR|> Ok
[03:47] <Broam> DCR|: I think things are a bit faster, but the mind is clouded. I could look at the help file, I do remember it being explained in there
[03:48] <EvanS> bobovski: when i try to install the sys file it says invalid inf file :O
[03:48] <johan__> what is the primary group of default user
[03:48] <bobovski> EvanS: what was the chipsety again?
[03:48] <rotero> bobovski:  Is it sufficient to use Synaptic to uninstall/reinstall Amarok?
[03:48] <icebird> If you download source code for a program to your desktop and then do ./configure make and make install are you then able to delete the folder that contained the source code that is on the desktop
[03:48] <johan__> should it be admin or the user itself
[03:48] <bobovski> rotero: yeah, synaptic is just a gui for apt-get as far as I know
[03:48] <EvanS> D-Link DWL-G650M
[03:48] <thoreauputic> icebird: yes
[03:48] <bobovski> EvanS: do an lspci - | less
[03:48] <rotero> bobovski:  Great.  Thanks.
[03:49] <Xerocide> Alright, I just tryed rewriting the iso to the cd, it didn't work again.  What else should I try?
[03:49] <Broam> DCR|: I just installed dapper recently, hence why I'm sure it's in there
[03:49] <Broam> Xerocide: Did you try the instructions on the wiki to verify, or do you know it failed? (sorry, just got here)
[03:49] <kitche> icebird: yes  but you won't be bale to uninstall the application if you want to
[03:49] <bobovski> EvanS: apparently those cards come with a few chipsets, each of which has different requirements
[03:49] <thoreauputic> Xerocide: are you sure your burner is OK ? :)
[03:49] <icebird> when i try to delte it will say that certain files can not be deleted because i don't have permission
[03:49] <wellstevesays> Can anyone help me with TightVNC?
[03:49] <DCR|> Also, this is weird, I'm creating a new partinion, and it says: Minumun size: 8mb Maximun size: 8mb
[03:50] <Broam> Xerocide: I once burned 3 dapper CD's to try to solve a kernel panic on install
[03:50] <thoreauputic> icebird: use sudo
[03:50] <EvanS> bobovski: i tried that and then it freaked my terminal out, and now it just says (END) in the spot where im supposed to type
[03:50] <Broam> Xerocide: all 3 were fine.  The CD-ROM drive was busted
[03:50] <nofxx> anyone know how can I configure a BROADCOM NIC????
[03:51] <bobovski> EvanS: what if you jsut do lspci?
[03:51] <Xerocide> It booted, but everytime I click start/install or "check for defects" it just restarts
[03:51] <Xerocide> [my computer]
[03:51] <SurfnKid> hello how can i execute a command to check the DVD ISO was burned correctly with the MD5?
[03:51] <Broam> xerocide: hmm
[03:51] <Broam> xerocide:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[03:51] <jrib> !verify | SurfnKid
[03:51] <ubotu> SurfnKid: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[03:51] <nofxx> the broadcom site says they maintain linux drivers.... but ubuntu is not recognizing the NIC.....  Broadcom AC131 10/100 Lan Phy
[03:51] <Broam> Xerocide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck
[03:51] <EvanS> bobovski: if i just do lspci, it gi ves me info like host bridge cardbus bridge ide interface ethernet controller etc
[03:52] <DCR|> Also, this is weird, I'm creating a new partition, and it says: Minimum size: 8mb Maximum size: 8mb, This is definelty not right
[03:52] <Broam> DCR|: all of your other space is probably partitioned. What's your drive like?
[03:52] <cld2> can anyone tell me the underlying files that are used to select your windows manager using ubuntu? Ive installed a WM via apt and its not showing up in the gdm selection option. thanks.
[03:52] <DCR|> Whats my drive like? As in?
[03:52] <thomrei>  /who liesl
[03:52] <bobovski> EvanS: what does Ethernet controller say?
[03:53] <Vigo_> I go now, Thank you kindly, cheers :-)
[03:53] <Broam> Xerocide: The CD integrity check page...um, it used to have a command you piped through grep.  I'll see if I can find it
[03:53] <icebird> why is it that every one always says to use sudo instead of su
[03:53] <Broam> DCR|:  how big?
[03:53] <b08y> !WM| cld2
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about WM - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <blanky_> where do I go to install a new splashscreen?
[03:53] <blanky_> for gnome
[03:53] <DCR|> It says NTFS: size: 74.6gb
[03:53] <Xerocide> Yeah, whenever I try to run the integrity check, it does a little loading and it says something about kernel something and then my computer retstarts.
[03:53] <EvanS> bobovski: it says Atheros Communications Inc. AR5005VL 802.11bg wireless NIC (rev 101)
[03:53] <blanky_> anyone?
[03:53] <cld2> icebird: it makes you think about what you are doing each and every time you want to do something as root, and by default the root account has no password (disabled) so su would not work
[03:53] <Broam> Xerocide: Okay, so it says "loading vmlinuz" or something like that?
[03:53] <blanky_> How do I install/set a splashscreen in gnome?
[03:54] <bobovski> EvanS: so that's the chipset your card has
[03:54] <vladuz976> can I somehow convert mov audio files to mp3?
[03:54] <SurfnKid> hello how can i execute a command to check the DVD ISO was burned correctly with the MD5?
[03:54] <Xerocide> Yeah
[03:54] <Broam> DCR|: NTFS, 74GB...looks like you have a windows install (you knew that. I didn't)
[03:54] <DCR|> Do I create the partition on "unallocated"
[03:54] <pppoe_dude> SurfnKid, you can't
[03:54] <DCR|> Yes of course
[03:54] <EvanS> oh i was telling you the name of my wifi card then
[03:54] <rotero> icebird:  I think su is like a virtual login as that user whereas sudo gives you root privleges for just the following command.
[03:54] <pppoe_dude> SurfnKid, is it an ubuntu CD?
[03:54] <jrib> !splash | blanky_
[03:54] <ubotu> blanky_: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[03:54] <DCR|> I'm doing this because I want to dual boot with widnows and ubuntu
[03:54] <mbirkis> is feisty getting along nicely? i am thinking of testing it, will i get much trouble?
[03:54] <Broam> DCR|: yes, except that your NTFS partition is on your entire drive.  You may need to resize your NTFS partition
[03:54] <icebird> is it a bad thing to enable the root account
[03:54] <DCR|> But I'm not very good at the whole partinion
[03:55] <pppoe_dude> SurfnKid, only way i can think of is to convert it back to an iso and do an md5... but that might also not be accurate
[03:55] <Broam> DCR|: gparted should be able to resize it, with an option to cancel before you do any permanent changes
[03:55] <Broam> pppoe_dude: there is a way, but I have to find it in my bash history
[03:55] <thoreauputic> !root| icebird
[03:55] <ubotu> icebird: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:55] <blanky_> !gnome-splashscreen-manager
[03:55] <ubotu> gnome-splashscreen-manager: manage your GNOME splash screen images. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-3 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 152 kB
[03:55] <DCR|> So when I click resize, what do I out?
[03:55] <pppoe_dude> Broam, to get an md5sum equivalent to that of the iso?
[03:55] <pppoe_dude> Broam, interesting
[03:55] <Broam> cd /media/cdrom
[03:55] <Broam> or something, mine's CD recorder
[03:56] <Broam> md5sum -c md5sum.txt | grep -v 'OK$'
[03:56] <Xerocide> Well, thank you all for the help.  I am gonna try again tomorrow and see if I have any luck.  Thanks anyway.
[03:56] <Broam> if the command returns *anything* it fails
[03:56] <bobovski> EvanS: so, at least ubuntu sees the card, it just doesn't know what drivers to use
[03:56] <Broam> if you leave out the grep, it shows you checking every file 1 by 1, with OK at the end
[03:56] <seww_> "No DHCPOFFERS received", what is wrong?
[03:56] <EvanS> bobovski: how can it not? i installed them through ubuntu
[03:57] <Broam> Xerocide: Sorry I wasn't more help. I'd probably assume that something in your computer doesn't like how linux boots. Try turning off any "virus protection" setting in the BIOS?
[03:57] <Broam> seww_: Your ethernet card isn't getting any response from your network. aRe you using a router?
[03:57] <seww_> Broam, yes i am.
[03:57] <DCR|> Do I leave "New size" which is in 76309 (MB) like that and increase "Free Space following by (MB)"?
[03:57] <bobovski> EvanS: I had a card that wasn't being seen by the PCI bus. It sucked. Anyway, have you run iwconfig?
[03:57] <Broam> seww: do you have other machines able to get DHCP offers?
[03:58] <seww_> Broam, yes the one im sitting on right now is on the same network, except on XP
[03:58] <jvai> hey peeps i'm ghost
[03:58] <seww_> so i guess no.
[03:58] <EvanS> bobovski: iwconfig says lo- no wireless extensions, and sit0- no wireless extensions
[03:58] <Broam> DCR|: I would lower the new size by about 5-10 GB if you can spare it
[03:58] <ardchoille42> How do I get the exact size of a directory?
[03:58] <Broam> seww_: well obviously it works...
[03:58] <Broam> seww_:  know what network card you're using in the box that can't see the network?
[03:58] <seww_> Broam, yes the card is lit up in the back
[03:58] <Broam> seww_: and what kind of router is it?
[03:59] <Broam> seww_: was referring to your XP machine, since you happen to be talking to me. :)  glad the cable works, that's another point of failure taken care of.
[03:59] <bobovski> EvanS: hurm. I'm out of my league then. I guess look through the forms for your card name, the appropriate chipset and edgy. Also, make sure you have the right drivers for your specific chipset as far as the wiki can tell you
[03:59] <seww_> Broam, its a linksys router, linksys card WMP54G v.4.1 with a RT61 chipset.
[03:59] <bobovski> EvanS: sorry, forums
[03:59] <seww_> Broam, this system is a laptop on wireless to the same network.
[03:59] <Broam> seww_: are you using a cable on the box that can't see anything?
[03:59] <EvanS> nooo, not the forbidden wastelands
[03:59] <bobovski> EvanS: hehe
[03:59] <Broam> seww_: ok.  Does it connect in another OS?
[03:59] <seww_> Broam, no its not connected at all except for wlan
[03:59] <EvanS> thanks a ton anyway bobovski it means a lot to be paid attention to
[03:59] <seww_> Broam, yes in XP
[04:00] <Xenguy> ardchoille42: df -k .
[04:00] <sid> SurfnKid: md5sum /dev/hdc; md5sum file.iso;
[04:00] <Xenguy> ardchoille42: sorry du -k .
[04:00] <Xenguy> ardchoille42: if you're in the dir
[04:00] <sid> pppoe_dude: sure you can.
[04:00] <DCR|> Broam: When you mean lower you mean put like 10gb on "Free Space"?
[04:00] <Broam> seww: that rules out MAC filters and the like
[04:00] <seww_> ok
[04:00] <bobovski> EvanS: good luck. you should report how you got it working when you do
[04:00] <Broam> DCR|:  yes.  You're going to use that new free space to make an EXT3 partition
[04:00] <seww_> Broam, yeah i wanna beat it up too but then i need a 50ft cable instead
[04:00] <EvanS> ok much thanks
[04:00] <bobovski> EvanS: it's probably using the right wrapper
[04:00] <conn> hi, I accidentally deleted /etc/samba/smb.conf, how do I regenerate it?
[04:00] <pppoe_dude> sid, with one command and/or without having to recreate the iso image from the CD?
[04:01] <Broam> seww_: What kinda wireless card are you using?
[04:01] <seww_> Broam, its a linksys wpm54G v.4.1
[04:01] <Broam> sid, pppoe_dude: the md5sums.txt (or whatever it is on the CD) is md5's of every other file on the CD
[04:01] <sid> pppoe_dude: He can just download MD5SUMS from the place he got the .iso file if he already deleted it from his hard disk. It's only a few kb
[04:01] <pppoe_dude> Broam, oh ok gotcha
[04:02] <Broam> seww_: Hmm. (Oh, I thought you were referring for the router).  if you run iwconfig, do you get an interface?
[04:02] <pppoe_dude> i didn't know every iso had an md5sum of each file
[04:02] <J-_> is there anuthing better than thunderbird/evolution I can use, if not, which one should I use?
[04:02] <seww_> Broam, yes i get two, wmaster0 and wlan0
[04:02] <Broam> seww:_ a good sign, generally.   I understand that's not a permanent fix
[04:03] <vladuz976> how can I get the audio from a dvd to mp3 ?
[04:03] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | seww_
[04:03] <ubotu> seww_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:03] <seww_> Broam, i haven't tried that since there are 12 other ppl on the network
[04:03] <seww_> oh please
[04:03] <Broam> seww_: understandable
[04:03] <seww_> okok
[04:04] <elcasey> bloody families
[04:04] <Broam> Hey, I understand it's frustrating. Don't take it personally
[04:04] <seww_> Broam, so yes. and how to get around this, i dont know.
[04:04] <elcasey> :P
[04:04] <seww_> no its cool
[04:04] <Broam> seww_: thinking...
[04:04] <Broam> I'm thinking that WEP keys may be inputted differently on *nix than in Windows, but I'm getting a teense out of my league here
[04:04] <Broam> seww_: are you putting it in as a passphrase, or hex?
[04:05] <seww_> Broam, think its a passphrase
[04:05] <DCR|> Broam: Do I create a new partinion, or use unallocated which is on 6gb?
[04:05] <seww_> hold on
[04:05] <Broam> DCR|: you can't use unallocated space, so make a new one using that
[04:05] <seww_> Broam, its  10 hex
[04:05] <ardchoille42> Xenguy, Thank you :)
[04:06] <SurfnKid> sid: thx sorry was on the phone
[04:06] <seww_> Broam, no passphrase
[04:06] <adamonline45> The last 3 programs I've tried to uninstall have failed...  Is there something wrong with using "apt-get remove <program>"?
[04:06] <DCR|> Broam: What do you recommenc I should fill out making a new partition using unallocated?
[04:07] <Broam> DCR|: EXT3, take up the whole space. If you want to get fancy, leave some for a swap partition, but you can always make a swap file
[04:07] <juano> adamonline45: how about using dpkg -r packagename
[04:07] <juano> Broam: how do you make a swap file ?
[04:07] <juano> Broam: never tried that one before
[04:07] <Broam> seww_: Hmm. I'm trying to think here, I'd start looking in the forums, there might be someone who's done this before.  I have not
[04:08] <DCR|> !EXT3
[04:08] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[04:08] <Broam> juano: looking it up...supposedly it's just as fast as a partition, but I've never done it
[04:08] <Broam> !swap
[04:08] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[04:08] <juano> Broam: ahh :-) thanks
[04:08] <seww_> Broam, i've looked all day and tried everything i can find... had to reinstall ubuntu a few hours ago
[04:08] <Baddox> Would you recommend installing beryl with XGL or AIGLX?
[04:08] <Broam> juano: that SwapFaq has the answer
[04:08] <Broam> seww_: ugh. Trying to think
[04:08] <juano> Broam: great ill have a look :)
[04:08] <juano> Broam: thx
[04:09] <seww_> Broam, yeah its cool, thx
[04:09] <Broam> seww_:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CrackingWEP
[04:09] <Broam> that's the only WEP link I can find on the wiki
[04:09] <DCR|> Broam: My maximun size is 7000MB, how much should I use? the whole thing?
[04:09] <Broam> and I do have a taste for irony
[04:09] <Xenguy> ardchoille42: yw
[04:10] <seww_> Broam, i have the WEP key. i know what it is
[04:10] <Broam> DCR|: That works, yes.  You could leave 512MB for Swap, but you can always add a swap file later if you think that might be too difficult
[04:10] <Broam> seww_; I know. I just find that hilarious.  :)
[04:10] <seww_> Broam, uhm ok
[04:10] <Pelo> what is a WEP key ?
[04:10] <adamonline45> juano: Thanks, but that doesn't work either.  It's like the uninstalls fail, the programs stop working, and there's still remnants =/
[04:11] <Broam> seww_: http://mediakey.dk/~cc/howto-use-wep-encryption-with-ubuntu-linux/
[04:11] <DCR|> Broam: Filesystem should be linux-swap?
[04:11] <Broam> Pelo: Wired Equivalent Privacy
[04:11] <Broam> DCR: not on the big partition
[04:11] <juano> adamonline45: mm.. are you sudoing it
[04:11] <Broam> Pelo: of course, it's really not...
[04:11] <juano> adamonline45: ?
[04:11] <hubo> Pelo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wired_Equivalent_Privacy
[04:11] <Broam> DCR: just for now, set up one big ext3 partition.
[04:11] <DCR|> Ok
[04:12] <Broam> DCR|: If I'm going above your head, don't hestitate to ask me to explain something. I'm moving quite fast here. :)
[04:12] <adamonline45> juano: I'm root...
[04:12] <DCR|> Hehe, I can see
[04:12] <Broam> seww_: I think the easy way is a bit of a cop-out
[04:12] <DCR|> Thanks a lot
[04:12] <juano> adamonline45: ok
[04:12] <Pelo> could one setup the home folder on a different drive just by making a symlink ?
[04:12] <juano> adamonline45: and what error do you get while uninstalling a package ?
[04:12] <seww_> Broam, cant even do it the easy way. not connected with that machine
[04:12] <LiENUS> Pelo,
[04:12] <Bugz__> Is there a way I can restore my ubuntu to an earlier time?
[04:12] <LiENUS> you can mount a different drive to home
[04:13] <Broam> Pelo: You might be able to do some work in /etc/fstab
[04:13] <LiENUS> thats the preffered way
[04:13] <seww_> and iwconfig wlan0 up didn't even work
[04:13] <Broam> seww_: hmm.
[04:13] <Pelo> I was just wondering how it was done,  thanks LiENUS  and Broam
[04:13] <LiENUS> for suspend to work do i need more swap than i have ram or something?
[04:13] <hubo> Pelo: ln -s /different/disk /home/pelo
[04:13] <Bugz__> Broam is that for me?
[04:13] <seww_> Broam, and i got a "No DHCPOFFERS received"
[04:14] <adamonline45> juano: usually something like "script returned error exit status 1"
[04:14] <Broam> bugz_ No., the partition thing was for DCF|; I should stop using /me
[04:14] <Bugz__> lol
[04:14] <Bugz__> indeed
[04:14] <Pelo> thanks hubo  I was just wondering IF
[04:14] <Bugz__> quite confusing..
[04:14] <juano> adamonline45: mm strange, i have never experienced that error, have you searched this in google?
[04:14] <po0f> LiENUS: Yes, for hibernate/suspend-to-disk, swap should _at least_ equal RAM.
[04:14] <DCR|> So in short here's what I'm doing:
[04:14] <Broam> seww_: Hmm.  I wonder if your router reports connection attempts
[04:14] <DCR|> Resize /dev/hda1 from 76309 to 69317
[04:14] <DCR|> create primary partinio #1 (ext3, 7000mb) on dev/hda
[04:14] <DCR|> Is this right?
[04:14] <seww_> Broam good question
[04:15] <Broam> DCR: looks good so far.  You're shrinking your Windows Partition (called hda1 here) and adding another partition for Ubuntu
[04:15] <LiENUS> po0f, there should be a warning in the install
[04:15] <LiENUS> i have 512mb swap and 1 gig ram :/
[04:15] <DCR|> Yeah, thanks
[04:15] <Broam> LiENUS: :(
[04:15] <LiENUS> i figured since i had 1 gig of ram i didnt need copious amounts of swap
[04:15] <LiENUS> hd is only 20 gig :/
[04:15] <rafase282> hello
[04:15] <LiENUS> wonder if parted can shrink xfs...
[04:15] <Broam> seww_: there's also wifi-radar in universe
[04:15] <Bugz__> Is there a way I can restore my ubuntu to an earlier time?
[04:16] <zapd0s> Hi, how would you uninstall a DEB from your system?
[04:16] <Bugz__> or some sort of point..
[04:16] <seww_> Broam, can i get it without a connection?
[04:16] <Broam> Bugz__:  like how?  Did you update something?
[04:16] <Broam> seww_: it's universe, so it's not on the CD
[04:16] <adamonline45> juano: Basically, here's the whole rundown...  I installed a LAMP server, decided I wanted thttpd instead of apache, uninstalled apache - got an error, and am riddled with apache files still.  Then I uninstalled thttpd to make way for the latest version (which I had to compile myself, way over my head ;) and now I still have 'thttpd' files everywhere! =O
[04:16] <Bugz__> I screwed my video drivers up
[04:16] <Broam> seww_: network mangler (ahem manager) might be in main
[04:16] <seww_> Broam, so i cannot get it
[04:16] <hubo> zapd0s: apt-get remove (--purge) packet.deb
[04:16] <Bugz__> Ubuntu boots up, but the login screen is black
[04:16] <seww_> Broam, already checked, its not
[04:16] <Broam> seww_: not without 50-ft cable
[04:16] <seww_> Broam, exactly
[04:16] <rafase282> is there a didtribution of Linux that can be run in USB
[04:17] <Bugz__> or somehow switch back to default settings/drivers..
[04:17] <Bugz__> or something
[04:17] <adamonline45> juano: I've not googled, I supposed this may be a common thing... I'll do that :)
[04:17] <Broam> rafase282: DSL can survive in CompactFlash
[04:17] <EvanS> is there a command for me to downgrade back to drake?
[04:17] <Broam> bugz__:  This might be a bit overkill
[04:17] <Bugz__> cuz I was using a program that my friend put on ubuntu that automaticly downloads and installs things for me called Automatix
[04:17] <wellstevesays> Can anyone explain why I get this screen (http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8959/picture1aq6.png) when I connect to my VNC
[04:17] <Bugz__> and it did something with my VGA driver
[04:17] <Broam> Bugz__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:17] <rafase282> I want to have Linux in my USB with graphic interfase
[04:18] <thoreauputic> !automatix
[04:18] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:18] <Bugz__> Broam.. can you explain what that would do?
[04:18] <Bugz__> oh crudd..
[04:18] <Broam> Bugz__: It runs through a script that allows you to regenerate your xorg.conf file
[04:18] <juano> adamonline45: mmm yea, you can find / -name "lamp*" try to erase those, or if you did this from source, try a make uninstall in make point
[04:18] <seww_> Broam, so what do you think?
[04:18] <Bugz__> :(
[04:18] <EvanS> is there a command for me to downgrade back to drake? anyone??
[04:18] <Broam> Bugz__:  It backs it up, though
[04:18] <Bugz__> yay
[04:18] <thoreauputic> EvanS: no really
[04:18] <Broam> Bugz__: you may get lucky and find you don't need to do that, because whatever installed your video drivers
[04:18] <thoreauputic> EvanS: I mean "not really"
[04:18] <Broam> Bugz__: ALREADY made a backup
[04:19] <Bugz__> I hope so.
[04:19] <Bugz__> ill try that command you gave me in safe mode
[04:19] <Broam> Bugz__:  open a terminal.  Go to /etc/X11
[04:19] <Bugz__> hopefuly it will do the trick
[04:19] <Broam> Bugz__:  and type ls
[04:19] <EvanS> thoreauputic: so can you help me get my wifi working again? :P
[04:19] <Broam> Bugz__: If you see 'xorg.conf.092387509872305' or something you have backups
[04:19] <Bugz__> well I cant get into terminal.. I cant get into anything.. but I can use safe mode
[04:19] <adamonline45> juano: anyway, trying to uninstall apache now says the program doesn't exist, and trying to uninstall thttpd will enter uninstall but exit 1...  Alright, I think I'll do that.
[04:19] <thoreauputic> EvanS: downgrading would be a recipe for pain and suffering and dependency hell
[04:19] <Broam> seww_: can you connect to any other wireless networks in the area?
[04:20] <Bugz__> or recovery mode ***
[04:20] <Broam> Bugz__: you mean the recovery mode?
[04:20] <Broam> Bugz__:  Yeah, you can do it in there
[04:20] <seww_> Broam, i can with XP. but they are all WEP encrypted
[04:20] <juano> adamonline45: usually from source a make uninstall cleans out the files and uninstalls properly
[04:20] <Bugz__> ok
[04:20] <Broam> seww_:  ugh, thinking...
[04:20] <Broam> Bugz__:  Here's a tip
[04:20] <coach_z> hello, my c2d processor is only recognized as one processor...i have installed the 64bit version but cant figure out how to get it to recognize the second core
[04:20] <EvanS> yeah, but my wifi worked in dapper drake and i haven't been able to get it working since upgrading =(
[04:20] <Broam> Bugz__:  When you're done with recovery mode, type EXIT
[04:20] <thoreauputic> EvanS: ncm43xx ? Do you know about cafuego's repos for firmware ?
[04:20] <thoreauputic> um bcm*
[04:20] <Broam> Bugz__: you'll do some more booting and pop into normal mode
[04:20] <seww_> Broam, except for one net i think
[04:21] <adamonline45> juano alright, I'll try that for the thttpd I just tried to install without uninstalling the previous version successfully first =)  hehheh...
[04:21] <EvanS> thoreauputic: no idea what what you said means, so i guess i don't, lol
[04:21] <seww_> Broam, yeah there's one unsecure
[04:21] <Broam> seww_: Give it a shot, I guess.
[04:21] <juano> adamonline45: heh , sure
[04:21] <EvanS> the only word i caught was firmware
[04:21] <seww_> Broam, ok
[04:21] <adamonline45> juano: thanks for the help...
[04:21] <Broam> Bugz__: to test to see if your reconfigure worked, type "startx"
[04:21] <juano> adamonline45: no problem :-), anytime
[04:21] <eieiu> anyone know how to search for multiple items in the craigslist search?
[04:21] <Broam> Bugz__: but ONLY do that in recovery mode.  GDM handles starting X for you
[04:21] <thoreauputic> EvanS: you have bcm43xx right?
[04:22] <EvanS> thoreau: what is bcm43xx?
[04:22] <Broam> DCR|: how's the partition going?
[04:22] <hubo> mounting nfs with 6.06 causes nautils to freeze if server is down. what mount -t nfs options would you recommend?
[04:22] <Bugz__> Broam.. ok slow things down a bit.. I see the xorg.conf_back_numbers
[04:22] <Bugz__> now what?
[04:22] <Broam> Bugz__: Good.
[04:22] <Broam> Bugz__:  the numbers will be dates and times.  Find the most recent one
[04:22] <thoreauputic> EvanS: broadcom wifi card driver
[04:22] <Bugz__> theres only one
[04:22] <task0> hello all, how can i change the default date format to DD/MM/YYYY ????????
[04:23] <Broam> seww_:  if the unsecure works, even a little bit, it's a WEP issue.  If not, it's the wificard
[04:23] <EvanS> thoreau: how can i tell whether i have it or not?
[04:23] <Broam> task0: I think that's locale settings
[04:23] <thoreauputic> EvanS: maybe I confused you with someone else
[04:23] <Broam> !locale
[04:23] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[04:23] <seww_> Broam, hmmm ok...
[04:23] <dallingham> I'm having a problem with a qlogic fibre channel card. I get a message that the firmware cannot be loaded (/lib/firmware/qla2400_fw.bin), but the file exists.  Any suggestions on how to resolve this?
[04:23] <thoreauputic> EvanS: what card are you using ?
[04:23] <task0> Broam, will look
[04:23] <EvanS> i'm using a d link DWL-G650M
[04:23] <LiENUS> dallingham, you sure you have valid firmware?
[04:23] <Broam> task0: Someday I'm going to swap to ISO 8601 :)
[04:23] <DCR|> Broam: I need you here
[04:23] <Broam> seww_: I think I need to hit google. Hard
[04:23] <dallingham> It was what shipped with the 6.10 kernel
[04:24] <DCR|> :P
[04:24] <Broam> DCR|: I'm listening
[04:24] <thoreauputic> EvanS: ah, sorry - someone else had problems with the Broadcom card
[04:24] <coach_z> can someone help me get ubuntu to recognize the second core on my Core 2 Duo?
[04:24] <Bugz__> everybody needs Broam.. he's like.. helping 10 people at once..
[04:24] <seww_> Broam, haha gl
[04:24] <Bugz__> lmao thats what I call multi-tasking!
[04:24] <EvanS> thoreau: does this mean you can't help me? :\
[04:24] <Broam> I'll do my best, until my girlfriend comes over and starts kissing me
[04:24] <Broam> then you're all in trouble. :P
[04:24] <Bugz__> LMAO!
[04:24] <LiENUS> dallingham,  generally kernels dont ship with firmware...
[04:24] <thoreauputic> EvanS: probably :)
[04:24] <Bugz__> will we see you again Broam?
[04:24] <Bugz__> your excellent help
[04:24] <Broam> I hope!
[04:24] <LiENUS> hence the loading from /lib/firmware
[04:25] <thoreauputic> EvanS: what is the problem? What are the errors?
[04:25] <hubo> coach_z: what's your current kernel? is it a smp?
[04:25] <magix> Hey is anyone running a VNC server?
[04:25] <Broam> Bugz__: Okay.  Now for the fun part
[04:25] <LiENUS> nm i am mistaken...
[04:25] <EvanS> well, i have the driver installed into ndiswrapper, it's just not working
[04:25] <dallingham> LiENUS: This is a fresh install.
[04:25] <Broam> Bugz__:  using sudo
[04:25] <Bugz__> ok
[04:25] <LiENUS> apparently they do include firmware...
[04:25] <seww_> Broam, i dont think its working
[04:25] <thoreauputic> magix: I'm sure someone somehwere is...
[04:25] <EvanS> it won't enable the card i guess
[04:25] <coach_z> hubo im not sure really, how i check that
[04:25] <Broam> Bugz__:  mv xorg.conf.lastest-back-file xorg.conf
[04:26] <seww_> Broam, it seems like its activating but nothing seems to happen
[04:26] <thoreauputic> !anyone| magix
[04:26] <ubotu> magix: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:26] <Bugz__> so thats: sudo mv xorg.conf.lastest-back-file xorg.conf
[04:26] <Broam> Bugz__: : This will take your working configuration and overwrite your current non-working configuration
[04:26] <Bugz__> ??
[04:26] <Broam> Bugz__:  yes
[04:26] <hubo> coach_z: uname -a
[04:26] <dallingham> LiENUS: The error message was looking in /lib/firmware, but the code was in /lib/firmware/2.6.17-10-generic. I copied it to /lib/firmware, but it did not help.
[04:26] <Broam> seww_: no DHCP?
[04:26] <thoreauputic> EvanS: sorry, I haven't used ndiswrapper
[04:26] <seww_> Broam, i dont know. but nothing seems to work
[04:27] <EvanS> oh, ok thanks anyway
[04:27] <Broam> seww_: I'd almost ask you to install wpa_supplicant but it's only gonna end in tears
[04:27] <bluefox83> !media players
[04:27] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[04:27] <Bugz__> ok it seems like it didnt do anything, however no errors
[04:27] <coach_z> hubo: 2.6.15-27-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT
[04:27] <thoreauputic> EvanS: I have a native driver for my iBook ( Broadcom etc)
[04:27] <magix> Would VNC be hard to install on ubuntu for a linux noobie?
[04:27] <EvanS> unless there's another method of getting it to work
[04:27] <Broam> Bugz__: are you on a different computer, or the same one?
[04:27] <seww_> Broam, ok i might... or just say bye bye to ubuntu and go with XP
[04:27] <Bugz__> same one
[04:27] <hubo> Signoff: ramiro (Client Quit)
 LiENUS: The error message was looking in /lib/firmware, but the
[04:27] <hubo> +code was in /lib/firmware/2.6.17-10-generic. I copied it to /lib/firmware, but
[04:27] <hubo> +it did not help.
 seww_: no DHCP?
 EvanS: sorry, I haven't used ndiswrapper
[04:27] <hubo> *** bluefox83<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has
[04:27] <hubo> +joined channel #ubuntu
[04:27] <hubo> *** mi|house<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined channel #ubuntu
[04:27] <LiENUS> ?
 Broam, i dont know. but nothing seems to work
[04:27] <thoreauputic> magix: vnc is already there - see the terminal server app under internet
 oh, ok thanks anyway
[04:27] <Broam> seww_: I hate to see you give up...
[04:27] <LiENUS> wth?
 seww_: I'd almost ask you to install wpa_supplicant but it's only gonna
[04:28] <hubo> +end in tears
 !media players
 Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet,
[04:28] <hubo> +Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video
[04:28] <bluefox83> wtf O.o
[04:28] <hubo> +players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[04:28] <seww_> Broam, yeah i dont want too either but its getting too much. been sitting here trying to get it to work all day
[04:28] <LiENUS> weird
[04:28] <dallingham> LiENUS: The odd thing is if I remove the model (rmmod) and reload it (modprobe), the card returns to life.
[04:28] <thoreauputic> !paste | hubo
[04:28] <ubotu> hubo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:28] <Bugz__> what is a hubo?
[04:28] <Bugz__> is that like a hobo?
[04:28] <tracy> anyone know a good version of something msn like? other than amsn..
[04:28] <Broam> Bugz__: some dude
[04:28] <DCR|> Broam: So it finished resizing, and now it's asking me: "Select which partitions you want to use for your new instalation and where you want to mount them" So the default right now goes like this:
[04:28] <DCR|> Mounting Point         size                                          Partition                                                           Reformat
[04:28] <DCR|> /media/hda1            68gb                Partition 1 Disc  IDE/ATA 1 (primary)  [hda1]                                  []
[04:28] <DCR|> /                               7gb                  Partition 2 Disc IDE/ATA  1 (primary) [hda2]                                   [*]
[04:29] <Bugz__> oh
[04:29] <Broam> seww_: well, always try again another day...hmm
[04:29] <Broam> SH scripts that set up WPA...
[04:29] <seww_> Broam, maybe, maybe not
[04:29] <Broam> DCR:  pick hda2, mount it as /
[04:29] <Bugz__> Broam: anyways.. ill restart ubuntu and see if its fixed.
[04:29] <Broam> DCR|: pick hda2, mount it as /
[04:29] <Bugz__> Broam: is there a command for terminal to restart?
[04:29] <Broam> Bugz__: ok.  I'll be here
[04:30] <Broam> Bugz__: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace restarts X...
[04:30] <Broam> Bugz__: Ctrl-Alt-Del, unless you turn it off, restarts the whole machine
[04:30] <Bugz__> Well.. im on ChatZilla on another pc.. my ubuntu is next to me
[04:30] <hubo> i am really sorry, hit the wrong key; sorry!
[04:30] <Broam> Bugz__: You could also try sudo gdm --restart but I haven't had a ton of luck
[04:30] <DCR|> Broam: I don't get it, sorry, what do I need to change on the table I showed you?
[04:31] <coach_z> hubo: that was a heck of a sign off....did you get my kernel version?
[04:31] <Broam> DCR|: your windows partition is fine as /media/hda1.  You may not want to mount it, but you can
[04:31] <Broam> DCR|: hda2 is already going to be mounted as /
[04:31] <Broam> DCR|: make sure that hda1 is not going to be formatted.  I'm pretty sure that's the case now, but double-check
[04:31] <Bugz__> WOW!!
[04:31] <Bugz__> IT WORKED!!
[04:31] <Bugz__> Thankyou thankyou thankyou Broam
[04:31] <Bugz__> your a life-saver
[04:31] <Broam> Bugz__: that's why programs make backups. :)
[04:32] <DCR|> BUt hda2 should get formatted right?
[04:32] <Broam> DCR|:  yes
[04:32] <Bugz__> and thats why your going to stay forever and ever to help us nubs.. right?
[04:32] <Broam> I'm a nub too in a lot of ways
[04:32] <Bugz__> haha.. sure ya are..
[04:32] <Broam> that's the great thing about Free Software.  Always something new to learn
[04:32] <Bugz__> :P
[04:32] <Broam> hey seww_ you alive
[04:32] <cablesm102> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:32] <seww_> Broam yeah
[04:32] <cablesm102> damn
[04:32] <Bugz__> well instead of messing with my settings to try and get my ubuntu working great.. instead ill ask you..
[04:33] <cablesm102> forgot the /
[04:33] <seww_> Broam for another 20
[04:33] <Bugz__> my nVidia sound doesnt work.. any ideas?
[04:33] <Broam> cat /proc/driver/driverloader/<iface>/capabilities
[04:33] <Bugz__> ubuntu detects it though..
[04:33] <Broam> I have no clue if that works in ubuntu
[04:33] <Broam> seww_: I'm way off in lala land now
[04:33] <DCR|> Broam: This is right, right?
[04:33] <seww_> Broam, oh thats fine. im leaving soon anyways.
[04:33] <Broam> DCR|:  HDA1, 60GB or so, not formatted, mount has /media/hda1
[04:33] <DCR|>   The following partitions are going to be formatted:
[04:33] <DCR|>      partition #2 of /dev/hda as ext3
[04:33] <Broam> DCR|: HDA2, 7GB, formatted, mount as /
[04:33] <Broam> DCR|: looks right to me
[04:34] <DCR|> Alright ;)
[04:34] <Broam> seww_: Sorry. I'm not finding all that much.  The forums may be more help.  I'm sorry I'm not much help on this...I've always been a fan of "run it unsecure and use VPN over top"
[04:34] <Bugz__> My friend that got me into ubuntu, told me that nVidia should of automaticly worked with ubuntu..
[04:34] <DCR|> It's now installing :D Thanks a lot Broam I appreaciate it
[04:34] <DCR|> WOAH
[04:34] <Broam> Bugz__:  it should, but that doesn't mean there's no bumps in the road. :)  What card you have?
[04:34] <DCR|> Error
[04:34] <Broam> DCR|: ?
[04:34] <seww_> Broam, you're fine. it helped a lil
[04:34] <Broam> *ears perk up*
[04:35] <DCR|> You have not selected any partitions for use as swap space. Enabling swap space is recommended so that the system can make better use of the available physical memory, and so that it behaves better when physical memory is scarce. You may experience installation problems if you do not have enough physical memory.
[04:35] <Broam> oh yeah that
[04:35] <Broam> DCR|: Remember how I mentioned swap before?
[04:35] <Bugz__> its the nVidia.. I dont know much about the card though.. any commands for more information?
[04:35] <DCR|> Yea Kinda
[04:35] <Broam> Bugz__: hmm
[04:35] <DCR|> You said I can do it later correct?
[04:35] <cablesm102> Bugz__, you need help with Nvidia?
[04:35] <Broam> DCR|:  Yes, if you want.  However, if you want to do it now, I can try to walk you through it a bit
[04:35] <Bugz__> yessum
[04:35] <DCR|> Is it complicated?
[04:35] <LiENUS> oi
[04:36] <LiENUS> here goes dist-upgrade
[04:36] <Broam> DCR|:  shouldn't be
[04:36] <DCR|> Alright let's do it
[04:36] <Bugz__> iv been to the forums, no luck, been looking at complicated webpages, and no luck..
[04:36] <Bugz__> so im here now..
[04:36] <cablesm102> Bugz__, what stage are you at in the process?
[04:36] <LiENUS> its finished dling
[04:36] <LiENUS> and its upgrading now
[04:36] <Broam> DCR|: Okay...
[04:36] <Bugz__> stage?
[04:36] <DCR|> So I'm going to click "Go back" instead oc "continue
[04:36] <Broam> DCR|: yes
[04:36] <DCR|> Um crap
[04:36] <Broam> DCR|: take that 7GB partition you ma
[04:36] <Bugz__> ugh.. Im a noob at ubuntu.. installed a fresh copy from live-cd.. I think its Edgy FT or something.
[04:36] <cablesm102> Bugz, have you tried anything yet, or are you just here for instructions?
[04:36] <Broam> de
[04:37] <DCR|> I clicked Go back, and the installation closed
[04:37] <Bugz__> iv tried ALOT..
[04:37] <DCR|> Shall I start it again?
[04:37] <Bugz__> so I dont know if iv made it any worse or not..
[04:37] <Broam> DCR|: yes.
[04:37] <cablesm102> Bugz, I can help you with installing Nvidia drivers if that's what you need.
[04:37] <Bugz__> Im not sure what I need..
[04:37] <Bugz__> my hard-ware is detected via lspci -v
[04:37] <Broam> cablesm102: I would try to figure out what card Bugz__ has
[04:37] <Bugz__> and the aplay -l command
[04:37] <jimmygoon> How do I get jEdit to recognize my new fonts I installed?
[04:38] <cablesm102> Bugz__, private chat?
[04:38] <Bugz__> sure
[04:38] <coach_z> can someone help me get ubuntu to recognize the second core on my Core 2 Duo?   kernel version: 2.6.15-27-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT
[04:38] <Broam> coach_z: 64-bit kernel works on core2duo?
[04:38] <Broam> DCR|: Did you lose your new partition, or do you still have it?
[04:39] <DCR|> I have to check.. I'm doing the first steps right now
[04:39] <Broam> DCR|: ok
[04:39] <coach_z> Broam: yea, it is booted up right now
[04:39] <jimmygoon> any thoughts anyone?
[04:39] <DCR|> Broam: I still got them
[04:39] <blanky> ey guys, if I have lots of zip files (only zip files) in a directory on my site, can i download all of them in one go using wget -r http://mysite.com/thefolder/ ?
[04:39] <Broam> jimmygoon: Do othe rprograms pick up your new fonts?
[04:40] <jimmygoon> yes. I'm using it right now in xchat
[04:40] <Broam> blanky: I would believe so, wget does some really nifty things
[04:40] <jimmygoon> but it doens't show up in jedit
[04:40] <DCR|> Broam: What's next? Do I stay on the partinion table?
[04:40] <blanky> Broam: I know, I was asking if that's how you do it, heh
[04:40] <Broam> jimmygoon: I bet there's some font cache or something involved... check the docs?
[04:40] <Broam> blanky: I'm a little fuzzy on wget. I thought if you were asking if it's possible :)
[04:40] <jimmygoon> I've been googling...
[04:41] <blanky> Broam: oh haha
[04:41] <Broam> DCR|: I want you to take that 7GB partition and resize it to 6GB
[04:41] <Broam> DCR|: your new one
[04:42] <cablesm102> !sound
[04:42] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:42] <markus_uw> hi, i'm having some trouble with my wireless NIC, it's using an atheros AR5006X chipset, and the google hits say I need to compile the new madwifi from source. I'm not very comfortable compiling stuff, so I was wondering if anyone had an idea when/if someone's put these drivers in a debian package somewhere
[04:42] <cablesm102> !sound | cablesm102
[04:42] <ubotu> cablesm102: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:42] <task0> Broam, still there?
[04:42] <Broam> task0: Yeah, it was touch and go for a bit there
[04:43] <DCR|> Broam: Got it, it's pending, I need to click forward so it can take effect, so do I need to do anything else on the partitions table, or should I click fordward so it can take effect?
[04:43] <Broam> DCR|: you're not done yet
[04:43] <Broam> DCR|: you have about 1GB unallocated now, right?
[04:43] <DCR|> Yea
[04:43] <task0> Broam, i ONLY want to change the everithing exect the messages language
[04:43] <task0> how can i do that?
[04:43] <Broam> DCR|: make a second new partition
[04:43] <Broam> task0: Just the date format? Nothing else?
[04:44] <Balsamic_Chicken> is there some deb repo from where i can just apt-get install the newest openoffice version?
[04:44] <task0> Broam, no, everithing execpt the interface
[04:44] <Broam> DCR|: use the full 1GB
[04:44] <DCR|> Broam: Ok, as "Primary partition and ext3?
[04:44] <Broam> task0: Hmm...thinking
[04:44] <task0> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[04:44] <Broam> DCR|: primary's fine, sure...but make this one swap
[04:45] <malnilion> I'm having a problem where if one program is outputting audio (or is somehow tying up my audio driver or something), I cannot get audio from another program.  Is there any way to fix this?
[04:45] <task0> Broam, is the same thing there with portuguese, but with spanish...
[04:45] <Broam> task0: what language do you want to use?
[04:45] <task0> but i cant make it
[04:45] <task0> es_ar
[04:45] <DCR|> Broam: "linux-swap"
[04:45] <DCR|> ?
[04:45] <task0> but i want the itnerface in english
[04:45] <Broam> DCR|: that's the one
[04:45] <DCR|> Alright
[04:46] <DCR|> Ok, added
[04:46] <Broam> task0: you ran dpkg-reconfigure localeconf?
[04:46] <Broam> DCR|: ok. Now you have the following:
[04:46] <Broam> DCR|: hda1, NTFS, no format, mount as /media/hda1
[04:46] <Broam> DCR|: hda2, ext3, format, mount as /
[04:46] <Broam> DCR|: hda3, swap, swap
[04:46] <Bugz__> ok Broam
[04:46] <task0> Broam, yes, but i get confused in the LC_ part...
[04:46] <DCR|> Yup!
[04:46] <Bugz__> still no luck
[04:46] <sysdoc> Anyone have any documents on how to config Ubuntu with a Tab?let PC
[04:47] <task0> Broam, i have to select thing that i want to change or things i want to keep?
[04:47] <Broam> Bugz__: you mean using the binary nvidia drivers? I don't use those unfortunately
[04:47] <Broam> task0: Hmm. I'm going to run this command to
[04:47] <Broam> too
[04:47] <Bugz__> OK I have an nVidia card..
[04:47] <Bugz__> how do I find the information about that card?
[04:47] <Bugz__> via device manager possibly?
[04:47] <Broam> Bugz__: yes
[04:48] <Broam> task0: installing localeconf now
[04:48] <cablesm102> Bugz, specify that it's an Nvidia SOUND card
[04:48] <Broam> task0: I'm going to try
[04:48] <cablesm102> !sound | Bugz__
[04:48] <ubotu> Bugz__: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:48] <Broam> task0:  to do it here
[04:48] <DCR|> Broam: The swap, should it be formatted?
[04:48] <Broam> Bugz__: OH , it's a SOUND card?
[04:48] <Bugz__> Device: MCP51 High Definition Audio and its a PCI device..
[04:48] <Bugz__> indeedy
[04:48] <Broam> DCR|: I don't think it makes a difference, take the default
[04:48] <Rly> hi, anyone who can helping me installing ubuntu for the first time?
[04:48] <Bugz__> sorry.. I didnt know nVidia made video cards..
[04:48] <DCR|> Alright
[04:48] <Broam> Bugz__: they're actually more known for video cards :)
[04:49] <Bugz__> ooops.. im sorry..
[04:49] <Broam> Bugz__: it's fine, I made an assumption :)
[04:49] <cablesm102> Bugz__, they mostly make video cards and motherboards... probably you've got motherboard integrated sound by them
[04:49] <Broam> task0: okay, I'm running dpkg-reconfigure localeconf
[04:49] <cablesm102> !sound | Bugz__
[04:49] <ubotu> Bugz__: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:49] <Broam> task0: What's the confusing part?
[04:49] <Bugz__> I think so.. should I specify its a laptop too?
[04:49] <Rly> hi, anyone who can helping me installing ubuntu for the first time?
[04:49] <cablesm102> Rly, any problems?
[04:49] <Bugz__> and ALSA IS selected..
[04:50] <Broam> Rly: I'm walking someone else through.  We can help you out
[04:50] <task0> Broam, PM?
[04:50] <cablesm102> Bugz__, look at the page Ubotu sent you
[04:50] <Bugz__> and iv tried those pages.. with still no luck
[04:50] <cablesm102> Rly, sure
[04:50] <Broam> task0: I'm registered, go ahead
[04:50] <cablesm102> Rly, pm?
[04:50] <juano> Rly: hi yea sure
[04:50] <DCR|> Broam: Bad idea, you're getting tons of PM's now lol
[04:50] <Bugz__> LOL
[04:51] <Bugz__> But, as I was saying.. I tried those Sound pages.. with no luck..
[04:52] <homerj`> well, this works out well enough
[04:52] <Bugz__> ALSA IS enabled, and ubuntu IS detecting my sound-card.. but no sound..
[04:52] <task0> !MP3
[04:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:52] <Bugz__> even after I fix my sound problem.. I still have yet to fix another problem.. with my wireless card.
[04:53] <carl> Is it possible to install mplayer on ubuntu
[04:53] <carl> ?
[04:53] <coach_z> can someone help me get ubuntu to recognize the second core on my Core 2 Duo?   kernel version: 2.6.15-27-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT.....i know i keep asking but i had to RMA 3 motherboards to get this thing working and now it isnt even working
[04:53] <juano> carl: sure
[04:53] <witless> in xchat2, why in the world isn't there an "ignore" option available when you right click on someone's nick?
[04:53] <carl> I neetd to play wmv files
[04:53] <homerj`> Bugz_what wifi card?
[04:53] <homerj`> I just got an Airport Extreme to work
[04:53] <Bugz__> uhm.. I think its a Winbond
[04:53] <juano> carl: yea, you need wmv support first, you should get win32codecs
[04:53] <homerj`> hmmm...
[04:53] <homerj`> dunno on that one
[04:53] <carl> apt-get install mplayer?
[04:53] <homerj`> I had two working
[04:54] <homerj`> an amtel something, and the ae
[04:54] <thoreauputic> witless: umm, there is
[04:54] <juano> carl: yes, enable universe and multi-verse
[04:54] <juano> carl: i think they are on those repos
[04:54] <thoreauputic> witless: are you using xchat or xchat-gnome ?
[04:54] <witless> thoreauputic: nope.  not on mine.
[04:54] <witless> xchat2
[04:54] <Bugz__> its an Unknown device inside my MCP51 PCI Bridge slot..
[04:54] <Bugz__> why is it Unknown?
[04:54] <juano> carl: also sudo apt-get install win32codecs
[04:54] <carl>  juano> how to enable universe and multi--verse
[04:55] <juano> carl: run synaptic
[04:55] <juano> carl: settings ---> repos
[04:55] <thoreauputic> witless: xchat 2.6 ? which version? I have the dapper version here
[04:55] <cablesm102> coach_z, why in the world are you using an AMD kernel for your Core 2 Duo?
[04:55] <Broam> DCR|: nah, only one person
[04:55] <juano> carl: then check the boxes from the first tab
[04:55] <Bugz__> !wifi
[04:55] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:55] <Bugz__> !wireless card
[04:55] <juano> carl: after that click close, and then reload
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireless card - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <Bugz__> hmm
[04:56] <sysdoc> !tablet pc
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet pc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <thoreauputic> juancgt: it's w32codecs, and they aren't in the official repos
[04:56] <thoreauputic> !w32codecs
[04:56] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[04:56] <sysdoc> !tablet
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <coach_z> cablesm102: im quite new to all this didnt know which one to download
[04:56] <witless> thoreauputic: 2.6.6 in edguy
[04:56] <Bugz__> !tabletpc
[04:56] <witless> edgy
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tabletpc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <cablesm102> coach_z, are you using Edgy or Dapper?
[04:56] <Broam> cablesm102: Because for some reason 64-bit kernel boots on core2duo.  It may not be just AMD anymore
[04:56] <juano> thoreauputic: yea w32codecs
[04:56] <coach_z> cablesm102: dapper
[04:56] <thoreauputic> witless: and this is xchat, not xchat-gnome, right?
[04:57] <juano> carl: w32codecs not win32codecs
[04:57] <cablesm102> Broam, wouldn't the 686 SMP kernel work better for him?
[04:57] <witless> thoreauputic: right
[04:57] <thoreauputic> juano: see ubotu above for the repo
[04:57] <cablesm102> coach_z, try installing the package linux-686-smp.
[04:57] <Broam> cablesm102: Yeah, worth a shot
[04:57] <juano> thoreauputic: yep, not for me i got them , for carl :)
[04:57] <Broam> cablesm102: He can always remove them later
[04:57] <Bugz__> hey Broam.. do you know much about Wireless cards?
[04:57] <thoreauputic> witless: hmm - can't check then - I am running dapper on this box
[04:57] <cablesm102> coach_z, use the command "sudo aptitude install linux-686-smp"
[04:57] <DCR|> 80% :D
[04:57] <juano> !w32codecs | carl
[04:57] <holycow> any sudo experts around?  i'm trying to give certain users sudo priviledges ONLY to certain binaries ... your_user_name ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/firestarter for example simply doesn't work
[04:57] <ubotu> carl: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[04:58] <Broam> Bugz__:  don't use 'em
[04:58] <holycow> any tips?
[04:58] <Bugz__> I see..
[04:58] <Broam> holycow: try groups?
[04:58] <coach_z> cablesm102: i tried doing that before but it was failing probably bc i was using apt-get
[04:58] <holycow> Broam, well i can give users full sudo access ... but nothing seem sto work for specific binaries
[04:58] <thoreauputic> holycow: has the user logged out since you made the changes?
[04:58] <holycow> Broam, any samples of giving groups sudo access to specific binaries?
[04:59] <Broam> holycow: well I know that on other systems certain groups can run shutdown.
[04:59] <holycow> thoreauputic, yeah
[04:59] <cablesm102> coach_z, the nice thing about Edgy is it detects what kernel to use automatically
[04:59] <Broam> holycow: Lemme dig around...
[04:59] <holycow> Broam, yeah thats no problem i found that one
[04:59] <holycow> it doesn't work
[04:59] <thoreauputic> holycow: odd - you used visudo and there were no syntax errors?
[04:59] <cablesm102> coach_z, i'd remove the amd kernel and try using the package linux-686-smp
[04:59] <holycow> thoreauputic, i will tripple check on the logout but yup.  and yeah visudo only
[04:59] <Asc> I'm trying to get mplayer to play css-d DVD files.  I have the library (libdvdcss2 I think) installed, and vlc can play it, but mplayer can't.  Do I need to recompile with a libdvdcss2 dev library?
[05:00] <coach_z> cablesm102: ill try doing that, and if it is a no go....i guess ill go get edgy.....this computer is solely a Folding@home machine so i just need something that is not going to crash
[05:00] <Broam> holycow, thoreauputic: I'm a bit above my head, but maybe there's a setuid or setgid, or sticky bit that needs to be set?
[05:00] <Bugz__> CRUD-HOPPERS!!.
[05:00] <Bugz__> sorry.. got angry..
[05:00] <Bugz__> x.X
[05:00] <holycow> Broam, shouldn't thats sorta the point of sudo i think
[05:01] <thoreauputic> Broam: i don't know, to be honest - but I doubt it
[05:01] <White_Lightning> beryl issue, no one in that chan is helping, hopefully you guys can, how do I fix the XFree86-DRI missing on display :0.0
[05:01] <coach_z> cablesm102:  "Couldnt find any package whose name or description matched "linux-686-smp" no packages will be installed, upgradedd oor removed
[05:01] <White_Lightning> I've ran through the installing of proper drivers
[05:01] <cablesm102> coach_z, hmm...
[05:01] <Broam> holycow: true
[05:01] <holycow> thoreauputic, let me define 'not working' - it insists the passwd is wrong
[05:01] <White_Lightning> but still getting that error and all the things on the net tell you to "fix it" but doing the same thing I've been running the whole time
[05:02] <coach_z> cablesm102: i dont need the cd in do i?
[05:02] <thoreauputic> coach_z: in edgy, smp is enabled by default
[05:02] <cablesm102> coach_z, run sudo aptitude update and try again
[05:02] <Broam> holycow: you didn't do anything funny with the root user did you?
[05:02] <holycow> thoreauputic, and i really don't care about the nopasswd part actually ... having them be prompted for pass is fine
[05:02] <Bugz__> I thought ubuntu was supose to "just work"
[05:02] <thoreauputic> holycow: it is asking for a password?
[05:02] <holycow> Broam, this is ubuntu not debian, i scream at users here that insist on using root :)
[05:02] <coach_z> cablesm102 that didnt work
[05:02] <lavid> this might be better suited for the forums, but i'll give it a shot here: My laptop has both onboard and external video (intel GMA and nvidia go 7400) which i can switch between by toggling a switch upon booting up. If I install the nvidia drivers (proprietary) I can't get opengl hardware acceleration when I use the intel card. I make sure I get a display by running a script to switch between 2 xorg.conf files, but what commands s
[05:02] <Broam> holycow: i'm on gNewSense, shh don't tell anyone
[05:02] <Bugz__> o.0 I might be misleading but I think its a rather bit of a headache for plug-n-pray devices..
[05:02] <coach_z> bugz_ : macs 'just work'
[05:03] <DCR|> Broam: It's done, I have to reboot now, so brb
[05:03] <Broam> DCR|: see you soon!
[05:03] <holycow> thoreauputic, yep! ... on both nopasswd and (all) options ... i'm not really dead set on nopasswd as i said, a prompt is fine actually
[05:03] <holycow> Broam, shame on you >_>
[05:03] <thoreauputic> Broam: most Ubuntites are in sympathy with GnewSense i think :)
[05:04] <cablesm102> coach_z, have you edited your sources.list at all?
[05:04] <holycow> ohhhh non freeness
[05:04] <thoreauputic> holycow: is this just so that the firestarter GUI will fire up on login? You know that isn't necessary, right?
[05:04] <holycow> ah thats fine.
[05:04] <Bugz__> sympathy.. isnt that like being depressed over something.. or more of an emotional state afflicted on another being??
[05:04] <coach_z> cablesm102: no
[05:04] <Broam> Did I miss anything?
[05:04] <holycow> thoreauputic, no thatas just an example, what i cant figure out is WHY REGULAR USERS cant modify time/date and setup networking
[05:04] <holycow> it frankly is mind boggling
[05:04] <cablesm102> coach_z, I have no idea why that's not installing...
[05:05] <holycow> why use a computer if you can't change that
[05:05] <holycow> makes sense on a server, not a desktop
[05:05] <holycow> thoreauputic, so i just need users to sudo with pass to time-admin and network-admin
[05:05] <thoreauputic> holycow: time/date is system wide and so is networking - why would users be allowed to change either?
[05:05] <coach_z> cablesm102:  i need to run out so im going to download edgy while i am out....what version should i download?
[05:05] <holycow> thoreauputic, server versus single user desktop
[05:05] <holycow> think about it :)
[05:05] <totall_6_7> firestarter works weather the gui is in the system tray or not
[05:05] <Broam> thoreauputic: I don't ask the questions, I just answer them
[05:06] <decoherence> they call it gksu
[05:06] <decoherence> get used to it
[05:06] <cablesm102> cocah_z, only one version...
[05:06] <cablesm102> coach_z, Edgy Eft is Ubuntu v 6.10
[05:06] <Broam> decoherence: I thikn it's gksudo actually
[05:06] <thoreauputic> holycow: on a single user desktop would the user not be in sudoers?
[05:06] <cablesm102> maybe 6.10.1
[05:06] <uRblong2us> hi
[05:06] <cablesm102> not sure
[05:06] <holycow> thoreauputic, so let me turn the question around ... have you ever given specific users su access to specific binaries?
[05:06] <Broam> hello
[05:06] <holycow> thoreauputic, oh god no, are you kidding?
[05:06] <whonicca> when a sudo apt-get update is done, should a aptitude update also be done or do they use the same database
[05:07] <Broam> whonicca: same database
[05:07] <Bugz__> grrrrr!!! ubuntu can just roll-over-and die..
[05:07] <jevangelo> what input does apt-get need to install helix server?
[05:07] <holycow> thoreauputic, the one thing NO ONE TELLS NEWBIES here is that running as sudoer is like running windows as admin
[05:07] <holycow> my god
[05:07] <Broam> Bugz__: but then it rolled back
[05:07] <thoreauputic> holycow: the answer is no :) I only know about it in theory :) Ignore me :)
[05:07] <holycow> do you know what the average password length is for anyone here?
[05:07] <holycow> i bet its like under 4 characters if that
[05:07] <Broam> 8?
[05:07] <whonicca> Broam, so a sudo apt-get update is the same as doing sudo aptitude update
[05:07] <Broam> whonicca: Yep
[05:07] <whonicca> cool
[05:07] <holycow> i mean c'mon ... we don't even prompt the user to create an 'admin' account which is what a sudo is ... and a restricted account which is what they should run as
[05:07] <Broam> whonicca: Synaptic's update is the same thing too.
[05:07] <holycow> just wait until the first exploit
[05:07] <Bugz__> 6
[05:08] <whonicca> cool
[05:08] <Broam> holycow: well
[05:08] <whonicca> nice to have everything in sync =)
[05:08] <holycow> thoreauputic, okay coolio :) i appreciate they help dude
[05:08] <uRblong2us> hi I can't join yahoo chats with GAIM
[05:08] <uRblong2us> :-(
[05:08] <thoreauputic> holycow: ah, in a work situation of course sudo is a different issue
[05:08] <Broam> whonicca: whether you use apt-get or aptitude or synaptic or adept or any other front-end, it's the same system. What you use is generally a matter of personal choice.  I'm fond of aptitude myself
[05:08] <holycow> thoreauputic, i disagree, its no different at home
[05:08] <holycow> its simply ignoring security
[05:08] <holycow> i my self run as restricted
[05:09] <whonicca> Broam, same here
[05:09] <holycow> just wait till helpfull bash scripts start appearing tha tpeople click on and they start getting prompted for a pass thinking oh okay i do this all day long
[05:09] <holycow> instant rootkit
[05:09] <Bugz__> isnt that a matter of opinion holycow?
[05:09] <Broam> holycow: yes, but all that access will be logged, at least the first few steps
[05:09] <thoreauputic> holycow: I merely meant that if only one user ( the person who installed Ubuntu) uses the box, sudo is not an issue - in a family it is, of course - or in a shared house etc
[05:10] <marquivon> Hello. For the past few days I'm trying to install Ubuntu via the Netboot Kernel. I'd setup a local repository using apt-mirror, also tried using the files in the Alternate install ISO CD, but it requires packages which are not available in either
[05:10] <Bugz__> marq, what version are you trying to install?
[05:10] <marquivon> 6.10 edgy
[05:10] <Bugz__> You downloaded it from the ubuntu home page?
[05:10] <thoreauputic> holycow: every home needs a sysadmin ;p
[05:11] <holycow> thoreauputic, i really really think running as serverly underpriviledged user is a requirement ... but as bugz_ sure there might be room to disagree
[05:11] <decoherence> what helpful bash scripts?
[05:11] <Broam> ...
[05:11] <decoherence> there aren't any, except on the ubuntu forums
[05:11] <thoreauputic> holycow: I don't think we disagree actually
[05:11] <decoherence> oh right this is ubuntu channel. oops
[05:11] <holycow> thoreauputic, heh ... i would say we need to really stop telling people that it is okay to act as a sysadmin when they are not qualified
[05:11] <uRblong2us> yo guys I can't connect to chat in yahoo with GAIM
[05:11] <uRblong2us> help
[05:11] <Bugz__> Id say the easiest way to install ubuntu is to download the Live-CD from the ubuntu home-page, and install the ISO to a disk. and then install it from the Live-CD
[05:11] <holycow> thoreauputic, me neither
[05:11] <uRblong2us> c'mon what the hell is wrong?
[05:11] <KDan> something keeps resetting my server's clock to be in the wrong time zone? any thoughts?
[05:11] <marquivon> Bugz__, Yes I did. I even used us.archive.ubuntu.com to make a mirror of main, restricted, main/debian-installer
[05:12] <KDan> keeps moving back about 13 hours into the past
[05:12] <Bugz__> and what was the problem?
[05:12] <holycow> so back to my q ... i'm fishing for any help here!  anyone familiar with sudo under dapper?
[05:12] <thoreauputic> holycow: well, if they actually install Ubuntu they become a sysadmin by default
[05:12] <thoreauputic> holycow: in a way
[05:12] <jevangelo> can helix be installed through apt-get?
[05:12] <marquivon> Bugz__, I'm trying to install it on 8 of my machines and none of them has CD Drive.
[05:12] <jevangelo> helix server?
[05:12] <holycow> thoreauputic, thats EXACTLY the problem.  exactly.
[05:12] <Bugz__> That could be a problem..
[05:12] <decoherence> somewhat. you're trying to allow unrestricted access to programs for a user?
[05:12] <holycow> thoreauputic, we keep on pushing ocmputers on users like dealers push crack
[05:12] <thoreauputic> holycow: OK - but how would you avoid that?
[05:12] <Bugz__> the Live-CD I used was meant for the CD-ROM Drive
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> Anybody have a SIP account and a webcam?  I need to test Ekiga for a screenshot for Herd 3 release notes.
[05:13] <Bugz__> im not sure how you would go about booting the Live-CD without a cd drive..
[05:13] <holycow> thoreauputic, i haven't figured out how to merge responsibility with freedom to buy
[05:13] <Broam> Bugz__: there are ways. They scare me.
[05:13] <holycow> maybe a big shiny sticker should be sent out to everyone :)
[05:13] <thoreauputic> holycow: you and everyone else :)
[05:13] <Bugz__> LOL.. indeed Broam
[05:13] <marquivon> Yes. By CD it is very convenient. I thought that mounting the ISO would provide me all the packages
[05:13] <thoreauputic> holycow: maybe we need a license to run a computer ;p
[05:13] <holycow> thoreauputic, maybe offering cheap sysadmin courses online is a middle ground.  we go okay buy it, but here is a warning: until you become a qualified sysadmin your screwed
[05:13] <Broam> jevangelo: if you find a repository that has .deb files for Ubuntu, then you can add that repository (I forget how exactly, it's a two-step process)
[05:13] <terapicodave_> Hi, i'm trying to compile ndiswrapper but got this error here: http://rafb.net/p/TzGGWa70.html
[05:14] <Bugz__> no by mounting the ISO will just temporary mount it to a fictitious drive
[05:14] <Bugz__> however.. the live-cd is RAN on boot
[05:14] <CyberCod> Help people, I'm about to tear my hair out!
[05:14] <holycow> thoreauputic, that goes against the 'freedom' thing, yeah i used to actually feel that way
[05:14] <thoreauputic> holycow: right :)
[05:14] <Bugz__> your ISO fictitious image wouldnt be on boot, now would it?
[05:14] <Broam> CyberCod: Tell us about your problems
[05:14] <Arrick> hey, what do I type in terminal to get the specs of a box?
[05:14] <marquivon> No, but if copy the netboot kernel on my USB Disk, install grub on the same and boot using the USB Disk
[05:15] <decoherence> lshw | less
[05:15] <Bugz__> That could work..
[05:15] <thoreauputic> holycow: I agree that it's a worry - so many people are now installing Ubuntu and popping up with "how can I run as root all the time?"
[05:15] <Bugz__> but the packages I used from Synaptic
[05:15] <thoreauputic> :(
[05:15] <Bugz__> AFTER I got ubuntu installed
[05:15] <marquivon> So i'll be able to boot. I have even used the ubuntu-mirrors to do the installation
[05:15] <drew2x> I'm having a weird problem. Roadrunner internet went down today, it finally came back up but i can no longer connect to the internet on my ubuntu pc. My iBook connects fine so i know the internet is back up
[05:15] <CyberCod> Broam, I'm finishing an installation of Ubuntu Edgy on an older gateway with an integrated AC-Link Voice modem... I can't get the modem to work, and there's hardly any documentation to be had on the web, and none at all for linux
[05:15] <Arrick> decoherence, was that for me?
[05:15] <Bugz__> Broam, might be able to help you marquivon.
[05:16] <holycow> thoreauputic, just watching the sorts of questions on forums and here, i shake my head sometimes
[05:16] <kota> I feel so stupid now.
[05:16] <kota> :(
[05:16] <Broam> CyberCod: This is going to drive you nuts, then. Happen to know the chipset in that thing?
[05:16] <holycow> i really wonder if we are doing them a favour at all
[05:16] <marquivon> thanks Bugz__
[05:16] <thoreauputic> holycow: indeed, so do I
[05:16] <Bugz__> lol..
[05:16] <Broam> Bugz__: Hmm.
[05:16] <Broam> marquivon: I'm trying to think...
[05:16] <Bugz__> :P
[05:16] <Broam> marquivon: what OS are these machines running now?
[05:17] <CyberCod> I found the windows drivers, but I don't know how to detect the chipset.... I was considering installing Everest in windows to see what it told me about the hardware
[05:17] <marquivon> Broam, no OS. Booting using a USB Pen Drive
[05:17] <thoreauputic> Bugz__: holycow has a point - the level of clulessness is getting worrying, frankly
[05:17] <marquivon> installed Grub and Netboot Kernel
[05:17] <decoherence> CyberCob: you need to do lshw | less too
[05:17] <blanky> how do I compile java programs?
[05:17] <blanky> !java
[05:17] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:17] <CyberCod> lshw | less?
[05:17] <aqnet8> gjug
[05:17] <bruenig> javac whatever.java
[05:17] <decoherence> yep
[05:17] <CyberCod> kk
[05:17] <aqnet8> hi all
[05:18] <Broam> marquivon: I haven't tried this, most of my machine are lucky to know what usb IS.
[05:18] <decoherence> the info you want is probably in there, assuming the hardware works
[05:18] <Broam> marquivon: I've seen some really scary stuff, where people format their USB sticks fat12 and hope the BIOS treats it like a huge floppy
[05:18] <terapicodave_> do i need to do anything to get an edgy default install to compile soemthign like ndiswrapper?
[05:18] <bruenig> !build-essential
[05:18] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:18] <Broam> marquivon: do you have a server that netboot will pull from?
[05:18] <bruenig> !info build-essential
[05:18] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[05:19] <terapicodave_> thanks bruenig
[05:19] <bruenig> that package description sucks
[05:19] <marquivon> Broam, that is the problem. If I use the online ubuntu mirrors then I'm able to do it successfully using Netboot
[05:19] <enlight> Could someone tell me what the + at the end of a dir permission like this "drwxr-x---+" means?
[05:19] <rellik> I'm having a problem with my networking..  I'm trying to use SMB to get a ~200M file from my windows box, and it says it is gonna take 11 hours..  both should are wired through a switch, so things should be going pretty fast, but instead my transfer rate is WELL below 1MB/s..  why is it so slow? What can I do to fix it?
[05:19] <decoherence> it has an ACL
[05:19] <Bugz__> thoreauputic: with all seriousness.. I do beleive the relatively few of us that have brains, will be over-run with brainless inpowderment on the surface of earth...
[05:19] <decoherence> enlight
[05:19] <CyberCod> Broam, not seeing anything in there that looks like a modem, should I pastebin it?
[05:19] <marquivon> Broam, but since I'd be installing it on more than 2 machines (8 machines to be precise), I need a faster alternative. I tried using apt-mirror to replicate the Ubuntu Repository locally
[05:19] <enlight> decoherence: ah ok, thank you :)
[05:19] <Broam> CyberCod: Sure, why not
[05:19] <Bugz__> thor: its only going to get worse too..
[05:19] <decoherence> stupid pain in the ass permissions to make up for poor directory layout
[05:19] <gu014> can i do anything to improve the efficiency of firefox? using sooo much memory and really slowing down my system. 3ghz 3gb ram
[05:20] <thoreauputic> Bugz__: that happened long ago, sadly :)
[05:20] <lavid> so... anyone have any idea about the opengl dual graphics card thing i asked about? (it's possible it didn't go through, my internets are going quite slowly)
[05:20] <Bugz__> haha
[05:20] <Bugz__> indeed
[05:20] <Broam> marquivon: and no love on that?  I'm not good with this stuff... :(
[05:20] <bruenig> gu014, swiftfox maybe
[05:20] <cablesm102> !swiftfox | gu014
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <blanky> how do I remove journaling from ext3? I forgot the command
[05:20] <marquivon> Broam, thanks for the help :-) Any place I can ask this?
[05:20] <linuxgoober> does anyone know how to change konsole's font color? i can't seem to find it in the options
[05:20] <cablesm102> blanky, wouldn't that basically make it into Ext2?
[05:20] <Bugz__> brb everyone.. DONT DIE!!
[05:20] <Bugz__> :O
[05:21] <cablesm102> We'll try not to
[05:21] <blanky> cablesm102: that's what I want...
[05:21] <Broam> marquivon: forums are always an option.  Mailing lists too, probably not the developer ones.  I'm thinking that someone, somewhere, has had this exact same problem, because it doesn't seem that outlandish
[05:21] <blanky> I forgot the program that does it
[05:21] <cablesm102> !Ext2 | blanky
[05:21] <blanky> tune2fs?
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Ext2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <cablesm102> hmm
[05:21] <blanky> cablesm102: haha
[05:21] <blanky> !botsnack
[05:21] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:21] <cablesm102> ubotu, learn about ext2!
[05:21] <marquivon> Broam, posted on the forum, no reply yet :-(
[05:21] <blanky> !ext2
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <cablesm102> blanky, ask people how to convert ext3 to ext2
[05:21] <blanky> noobotu
[05:22] <blanky> cablesm102: that's what I just did haha
[05:22] <blanky> It's tune2fs I think
[05:22] <Broam> marquivon: A system admin's mailing list might be more useful.  Stay away from a.s.r though
[05:22] <cablesm102> blanky, ask specifically ext3 to ext2, don't ask how to remove journalling. Even though they're the same thing
[05:22] <CyberCod> Broam, I see you're pretty busy, so when you get a sec... heres what that gave me... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3660/
[05:22] <decoherence> !poke
[05:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about poke - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:22] <decoherence> dammit
[05:22] <marquivon> Broam, Thanks much :-)
[05:22] <cablesm102> Ubotu's failing a lot today
[05:22] <thoreauputic> !botabuse
[05:22] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:23] <Yun1> hi everyone... i need help bridging connections with a intel Pro 10/100 and a Realtek NIC
[05:23] <rellik> anyone here good with networking?  my local transfer from my windows machine (SMB) is going at about 50-100KB/s over a wired line through a switch..  what can I do to make it go faster?
[05:24] <Broam> CyberCod: Hmm. Looks like it only sees it as a sound card!
[05:24] <bruenig> the point of ubotu is not to guess, it is to use him so as not to have to type out the same responses over and over
[05:24] <cablesm102> rellik, does that happen with 2 windows computers?
[05:24] <bruenig> guessing is reserved for /msg
[05:24] <tonyyarusso> bruenig: Or just search at the page :)
[05:24] <Netslayer> I'm running edgy and i'm having an issue with a specific set of dark colors on any rendered area. All dark blacks are being rastorized greenish even in video playback, kde shutdown menu. any ideas?
[05:24] <rellik> cablesm102, no transferring between two windows comps goes at expected speeds
[05:24] <bruenig> well yeah, but I mean don't ask that much
[05:24] <Broam> CyberCod: also, there's this idea that your serial is UNCLAIMED.  Not sure what that means, but it's probably not...good
[05:25] <DCR|> Broam: It worked! :d Thanks a lot
[05:25] <CyberCod> Broam, it does have integrated sound as well... was there 2?
[05:25] <cablesm102> bruenig, i had no idea you could /msg ubotu... i feel stupid
[05:25] <Bugz__> LOL @ Broam
[05:25] <Bugz__> no.. I dont think that an unclaimed serial.. is ever good
[05:25] <decoherence> Netslayer: what's the video card? have you tested the monitor on another computer?
[05:25] <thoreauputic> unclaimed cereal just gets soggy and unusable...
[05:25] <Bugz__> infact.. how would you even force it to claim itself?? o.O
[05:26] <CyberCod> Its an older machine... 700Mhz celeron,  thats practically carbon-dating there
[05:26] <Broam> CyberCod: it might be that the sound card IS the modem.  AC'97 is like that
[05:26] <Bugz__> maybe cherious have a self-bios that forces the cerial to migrate into a word for claimability?
[05:26] <Bugz__> cherios**
[05:26] <Netslayer> decoherence, it's a nvidia 7800 gt, and the problem goes away after i start playing back video i think
[05:26] <rellik> is 3c59x the best driver to use for my 3COM-SOHO100-TX?
[05:26] <Broam> CyberCod:  or it may not be, they may be seperate.  Hav eyou ever cracked the case?
[05:27] <CyberCod> Hmmm..  I've got other cards, its just that the dang thing has half-height pci slots... yeah, i had to replace the hard drive to start out with
[05:27] <Bugz__> hey Broam.. I do have a theory about my sound..
[05:27] <Bugz__> would it be possible for ubuntu to not use the PC-Speaker.. or somehow use a default speaker port?
[05:27] <Bugz__> the speakers are built into the laptop.. so maybe that could be a possibility..
[05:27] <Yun1> i need help bridging 2 NICs (Intel PRO 10/100 and Realtek fast ethernet)
[05:28] <cablesm102> Bugz__, does it work with headphones plugged in?
[05:28] <Bugz__> I havnt checked cablesm102.. let me try
[05:28] <Broam> Bugz__: Hmm. You can turn off the pc-speaker. It's annoying, I forget exactly how, but I know in the gnome-terminal at least there's a way. Should be for the tty's too
[05:28] <CyberCod> one moment, I'm gonna see if I can dig up some info on the card (again)
[05:28] <Broam> CyberCod: never actually physically looked at the thing? That's always enlightening
[05:28] <cablesm102> Bugz__, PC Speaker is something completely different.
[05:28] <Broam> CyberCod: especially because it has the FCC ID printed on it
[05:29] <nick__> whenever i encode mp3's they play back all scrambled HELP?
[05:29] <marquivon> Broam: Sorry for the trouble, what'd be the system admin's mailing list? Not able to find any on https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/
[05:29] <Bugz__> hmmm nope cablesm102.. the headphones dont work either..
[05:30] <Broam> marquivon: Bah! Sorry.  I'd see if there's a more general one. Maybe the debian mailing lists would be of some help?
[05:30] <bruenig> !quicktime | nick__
[05:30] <ubotu> nick__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:30] <CyberCod> Don't know what to do with FCC ID... always kinda looked over it
[05:30] <Broam> CyberCod: You can search by it!
[05:30] <marquivon> Broam: Okay thanks. I'll look further
[05:31] <Broam> CyberCod: I think google supports it, I forget.  If not the FCC.gov page has a search option
[05:31] <CyberCod> the win drivers for it are available on gateway... to bad theres not a modem driver wrapper like ndiswrapper
[05:31] <CyberCod> http://support.gateway.com/support/drivers/mydl.asp?tab=MY&os=All%20Operating%20Systems
[05:31] <Bugz__> Broam.. im going back to the drawing board for the sound-problem..
[05:31] <task0> how do i install ntfs support for gnome partitioner?
[05:31] <Bugz__> see ya in a few..
[05:31] <metal03> Hey, how do I make .mov video files work??
[05:31] <Broam> marquivon: Someone has to have done it--if not, instructions on how to mirror the repo locally should be easier to find too
[05:31] <bruenig> task0, should already be installed
[05:31] <gerzel> I'm curios, is there anyway I could put a indicator bar for downloads from firefox on my gnome panel?
[05:31] <bruenig> !quicktime | metal03
[05:31] <ubotu> metal03: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:31] <Broam> task0: It should just be in there
[05:31] <gerzel> Has anyone done something like this?
[05:32] <juano> gerzel: must be some plugin fore that
[05:32] <bruenig> gerzel, seems an odd task. I mean if you are downloading really huge things, seems like you would use a download manager or something to achieve that. Small things the progress bar wouldn't matter
[05:32] <juano> gerzel: downthemall! is the download manager for firefox
[05:32] <Broam> Bugz__ : ok.  Sorry I couldn't help
[05:33] <Yun1> Hi, i need help bridging 2 NICs (Intel PRO 10/100 and Realtek fast ethernet)
[05:33] <Bugz__> its ok Broam
[05:33] <task0> bruenig, Broam, look: http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/2764/screenshotfeaturesal8.png
[05:33] <ssstormy> hello, I'm doing a network install on my laptop, and it seems to have ... stopped at "select and install software" after asking me which resolutions I want for xorg
[05:33] <juano> gerzel: try installing downthemall or something similar
[05:33] <ssstormy> I left it about an hour ago
[05:33] <ssstormy> and it's still there
[05:33] <bruenig> task0, what happens when you mess with your ntfs partitions
[05:33] <gerzel> juano thanks
[05:33] <metal03> I've read all about the Restrited formats and the free formats, but I still can't find anything about .mov files...
[05:33] <CyberCod> Broam, thanx, I'll look at the FCC ID tomorrow, I'm about to pass out on my keyboard (again)  I gotta get some sleep
[05:34] <task0> bruenig, what do you mean?
[05:34] <Broam> CyberCod: good timing, my s/o has decided she needs to be paid attention to
[05:34] <bruenig> task0, well have you tried to do whatever you are trying to do with your ntfs stuff
[05:34] <CyberCod> g/nite... thanx for trying
[05:34] <juano> gerzel: sure, dont know though bout the taskbar, maybe you can configure it to do so
[05:34] <Netslayer> this is so annoying, some default library isnt rendering correctly in my edgy install. i have this rastorized greenish corruption in black areas everywhere..any ideas?
[05:34] <marquivon> Broam: Did much. Full instructions on local mirroring available, but that mirror cannot be used for installation. Did a lot of research. Tired, but only want a confirmation that it is possible, then I'll do it for sure
[05:34] <_archangel> how do you install xml parser ?
[05:34] <Netslayer> it's in kde shutdown pic, playing videos, backgrounds, all rendered things
[05:35] <Bugz__> Broam.. you lucky duck..
[05:35] <_archangel> i'm trying to install the beryl package
[05:35] <task0> bruenig, i dont know how to do enithingg
[05:35] <bruenig> task0, it is graphical. Point and click your way to completion. See if it errs or not.
[05:35] <Broam> marquivon: okay. I'm tired too.  I'm starting to type my own name to answer questions :)
[05:35] <thoreauputic> Netslayer: I get that with using the feh program, but only on my laptop for some reason
[05:35] <Broam> marquivon: I'm sorry I'm not much help... :(
[05:35] <frogzoo> Yun1: bridge-utils
[05:35] <wastrel> "ubucon"
[05:36] <task0> bruenig, i'm really sory, i don't understand... click where?
[05:36] <thoreauputic> Netslayer: also over ssh -X with backgrounds in Fluxbox
[05:36] <KDan> how do i add a group to my main user without busting the sudoers list? last time i tried to do this i failed
[05:36] <bruenig> task0, you are using gparted right?
[05:36] <KDan> (ie last time i ended up losing sudo access)
[05:36] <task0> yes
[05:36] <Netslayer> thoreauputic, it's really odd i haven't ever had this happen on a box until i upped to edgy. it goes away after i do something until i restart
[05:36] <thoreauputic> KDan:  sudo adduser username groupname
[05:37] <bruenig> task0, what are you trying to do with it
[05:37] <KDan> thoreauputic: that won't bustthe sudo?
[05:37] <Yun1> frogzoo: i have them... how do you start it... im very new to linux
[05:37] <wastrel> KDan:  i believe that was a bug in the Dapper version of the gui user configurator thingy
[05:37] <thoreauputic> KDan: no not at all
[05:37] <KDan> oh. ok.
[05:37] <task0> resize a partition and create  a new one in the free space
[05:37] <wastrel> KDan:  i think it's fixed in edgy....
[05:37] <Silver> Can anyone tell me why it wont let me access folders? and edit the contents like Home folder?
[05:37] <bruenig> task0, and what happens when you try to do that?
[05:37] <thoreauputic> KDan: adds the user to a new group - user needs to lo out and in to take effect
[05:37] <metal03> I'm trying to read a .mov video file...  Can someone help me with that?  I figured that quicktime doesn't exist on Ubuntu...
[05:37] <task0> bruenig, i cant resize...
[05:37] <bruenig> task0, it isn't mounted is it?
[05:38] <wastrel> !quicktime | metal03
[05:38] <ubotu> metal03: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:38] <task0> bruenig, it's not mounnted
[05:38] <_archangel> !xml parser | _archangel
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xml parser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <Silver> Can anyone tell me why it wont let me access folders? and edit the contents like Home folder?
[05:38] <bruenig> task0, odd, just get the gparted live cd and partition in that
[05:38] <bruenig> Silver, what folders?
[05:38] <Silver> Home ETC
[05:39] <bruenig> what do you mean it won't let you access it. What is it telling you
[05:39] <Silver> i cannot edit Fonts, or Icons ETC
[05:39] <metal03> wastrel : I've read all about the free formats and the restricted formats...  I still didn't find any informations on what I'm looking for...  unless there's something I don't get!
[05:39] <Silver> it is telling me i do not have permission
[05:39] <_archangel> !xml parser perl module | _archangel
[05:39] <bruenig> Silver, these are in ~ or other places?
[05:39] <task0> bruenig, :(
[05:39] <Silver> err, i don't know what you mean?
[05:39] <bruenig> Silver, where exactly are these icons located?
[05:39] <Asc> metal03: mplayer should be able to play it fine without too much effort
[05:39] <bruenig> what is the full path
[05:40] <Silver> desktop
[05:40] <_archangel> vlc will play mov files
[05:40] <Silver> same for the fonts
[05:40] <thinkmassive> hello, I'm just used ntfsresize (from a livecd) to shrink my only partition /dev/hda1, and now I'd like to resize the partition with fdisk, but I want to move it to the end of the free space
[05:40] <bruenig> and what are you trying to do with it?
[05:40] <metal03> Asc: How?  Cause it's not atm!
[05:40] <Silver> Install new fonts
[05:40] <thinkmassive> in other words I want a small partition at the beginning of the disk for grub
[05:40] <Asc> pretty sure the h264 standard isn't proprietary, so it should come with the driver....
[05:40] <Silver> and new Icons ETC
[05:40] <bruenig> Silver, do you know how to do that?
[05:40] <_archangel> !perl module | _archangel
[05:40] <ubotu> perl: Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is important. Version 5.8.8-6 (edgy), package size 3287 kB, installed size 11436 kB
[05:40] <Asc> metal03: Hmm.
[05:40] <Silver> not off hand, but i am Reading a tut
[05:40] <Bugz__> !Rioworks
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Rioworks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <Silver> it does not say anything about errors
[05:41] <_archangel> !beryl
[05:41] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:41] <Asc> metal03: Do you know if it's h.264, or the older quicktime format?
[05:41] <bruenig> Silver, well the tutorial should tell you. What you will need to do is use "sudo mv" in order to move stuff from the desktop to wherever it needs to go
[05:41] <Silver> oh
[05:41] <metal03> Asc: How would I know that?
[05:41] <Silver> what about if it tells me to save to the home folder?
[05:41] <Silver> it wont let me save it to the foldere
[05:41] <Silver> folder*
[05:41] <bruenig> Silver, /home or /home/username
[05:42] <Silver> it should let me save if i do that?
[05:42] <thinkmassive> nobody knows how to move an ntfs filesystem within a partition?
[05:42] <Asc> metal03: Well, if it's a trailer from the quicktime website, it's h.264.  If it's extracted from Myst, it's probably something older.
[05:42] <bruenig> Silver, to move it to /home you need to use sudo mv. To move it to /home/username you don't
[05:43] <Silver> k
[05:43] <Asc> metal03: If it's a small file, I could try it; I've got the spare codecs installed.  If that doesn't work, I don't know how to help.
[05:43] <Silver> i will most likely return lol, thanks
[05:44] <roho> !webcam
[05:44] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:44] <roho> !msn
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[05:44] <Silver> ok, it tells me to save to the folder. and then it gives  me this to use afterwards.
[05:44] <Yun1> how do you start bridge-utils on linux?
[05:44] <Silver>  Can anyone tell me why it wont let me access folders? and edit the contents like Home folder?
[05:44] <Silver> wrong thing
[05:44] <Silver> Dang
[05:44] <bruenig> Silver, if you link the tutorial, it would probably be easier to follow
[05:44] <Silver> ok
[05:44] <Silver> im gonna have to type it out
[05:45] <blanky> how can I do a reinstall, I tried sudo apt-get reinstall blah, but no go
[05:45] <bruenig> this tutorial is online, just give the url
[05:45] <bruenig> I would assume at least
[05:45] <Silver> http://www.Taimila.com/ubuntuosx.php#themes
[05:45] <Silver> sry, my mIRC is not in Ubuntu
[05:46] <Silver> so i had to type it lol
[05:46] <task0> hello all, how can i remake locales files? they are not appling using sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf
[05:46] <bruenig> blanky, sudo apt-get install --reinstall blah
[05:46] <Silver> im only having problems with the top panel
[05:46] <Silver> and where it ask's about changing icon
[05:46] <blanky> thanks bruenig
[05:47] <Silver> so, any luck on how i would do that?
[05:48] <bruenig> Silver, on the themes you just download the tar.gz files and then drag them into the theme dialog
[05:48] <cablesm102> blanky, i'd use sudo aptitude reinstall
[05:48] <Silver> err....
[05:48] <bruenig> oh wait icons
[05:48] <cablesm102> nvm...
[05:48] <blanky> bruenig: thanks it worked, but the thing is I want to remove my configuration files
[05:48] <cablesm102> for reinstall it doesn't matter
[05:48] <Silver> i have it all done
[05:48] <Silver> im just down to
[05:48] <blanky> cablesm102: would it remove my configuration files?
[05:48] <Silver> the Top panel
[05:48] <blanky> cause they messed up my program (eclipse-sdk)
[05:48] <bruenig> blanky, sudo apt-get --purge blah
[05:48] <cablesm102> blanky, what?
[05:49] <bruenig> or it may be sudo apt-get remove --purge blah
[05:49] <blanky> bruenig: I dont want to remove the program, I want to keep it, but remove the configuration files, er, like, start new
[05:49] <blanky> yeah it's remove --purge
[05:49] <cablesm102> blanky, sudo apt-get remove --purge or sudo aptitude purge removes config files
[05:49] <blanky> but that would remove the program
[05:49] <bruenig> blanky, well remove it and purge and them install it again
[05:49] <blanky> aww man, it's a frickin 129 mb download, that's why I was wondering if there was a way to only do config files, guess not, thanks anyways guys
[05:49] <bruenig> it is not like you are redownloading anything. It will just use the deb in your cache
[05:49] <blanky> oh okay
[05:50] <blanky> sudo apt-get remove --purge eclipse-sdk && sudo apt-get install eclipse-sdk ?
[05:50] <bruenig> looks good
[05:50] <blanky> sweet thanks man
[05:50] <bruenig> Silver, this looks extremely long. They really should write a script to do this stuff.
[05:51] <task0> can i resize main ext3 partition?
[05:51] <holycow> does anyone here have experience with sudo on dapper?
[05:51] <Silver>  i have most done, all i need is the top panel part...
[05:51] <blanky> nope, I keep getting this error heh, "Error notifying a preference change listener. Check the log for details.", I'll look for the log, wait, what log?
[05:51] <wastrel> holycow:  i have experience with sudo on dapper
[05:52] <nemik> hello, how can i stop my 'Network Places' connections from all appearing on the desktop? there are way too many....
[05:52] <White_Lightning> I'm tired of troubleshooting, it plain doesn't work. So what PCMIA wireless cards SEEM to be the most compatible with ubuntu edgy?
[05:52] <Crema10> ugh...
[05:52] <White_Lightning> so I know what type to pick up
[05:52] <Crema10> i cant make it work...
[05:52] <bruenig> don't know, never had that error
[05:52] <nemik> white_lightingin: always been fine with dlink ones
[05:53] <White_Lightning> yeah I've been hearing dlink would be good, and I've always liked them actually
[05:53] <White_Lightning> cheap, but they work well
[05:53] <Crema10> good evening, i'm trying to screencast with Istanbul, but its useless... it runs so slow.. does anybody else have an alternative that has worked?
[05:53] <nemik> yes, stay away from ANYTHING that needs ndiswrapper. it is just not worth the pain
[05:53] <White_Lightning> yeah
[05:53] <task0> it is safe to resize partitions eith gparted?
[05:53] <White_Lightning> the internal in this laptop is a broadcom
[05:54] <nemik> ouch
[05:54] <nemik> wait, if you can get to the internal, replace it with an ipw2200
[05:54] <White_Lightning> eh, I don't want to tear in to it
[05:54] <nemik> they are super-cheap on ebay and supported on everything ever. i love mine
[05:54] <Crema10> any screencast experts here?
[05:54] <White_Lightning> still under warranty
[05:54] <Silver>  so, any help with the top panel part in the tut? all i need is the first bit about changing the icon, that's it
[05:55] <Rly> I'm getting problems when I try to resize a drive with gparted
[05:55] <nemik> yea ok then i guess. i'd still do it but yea get a cheap dlink then for PCMCIA. nothing  by netgear
[05:55] <Rly> anyone can help?
[05:55] <cablesm102> holycow, what help do you need with sudo on dapper?
[05:55] <White_Lightning> yeah
[05:55] <nemik> so how can i stop my 'Network Places' connections from all appearing on the desktop? there are way too many....
[05:55] <Candamir> if the install cd (desktop) says my ntfs partition is corrupt, is there anything i can do with ubuntu?
[05:56] <rellik> how can I find out the best driver to use with my 3com NIC?  the one ubuntu uses by default doesn't seem to work very well, but I thought 3com was very linux-friendly
[05:56] <KDan> find -name 'todelete.txt' | rm <<< that doesn't work, what am I doing wrong?
[05:56] <White_Lightning> well, the internal on this machine doesn't have the kind of range I would expect so it won't be a total loss, I just wish the the how-to for broadcome that they provide on the site for edgy actually worked
[05:57] <Silver>  Any help?
[05:57] <White_Lightning> the card is active, it just refuses to connect / pick up the router
[05:57] <Silver>  its just a simple you cant do it? or what?
[05:59] <Silver>  Hello?
[05:59] <Rly> I'm getting problems when I try to resize a drive with gparted
[05:59] <Rly> anyone can help?
[06:00] <cablesm102> Can anyone help Rly with resizing an NTFS partition?
[06:00] <Rly> thank you, cablesm102
[06:01] <cablesm102> Rly, you might want to mention NTFS next time you ask for help
[06:01] <Rly> ok, thank you
[06:02] <dwid>
[06:02] <_archangel> is it still possible to upgrade from hoary->breezy->dapper -> edgy ?
[06:03] <wastrel> _archangel:  in theory :]
[06:03] <_archangel> but the repos don't support the files now
[06:03] <thinkmassive> I just resized ntfs with ntfsresize
[06:03] <_archangel> :\
[06:03] <thinkmassive> now I'm having trouble moving it to the back end of the partition
[06:03] <dwid>
[06:03] <thinkmassive> I've found some old references to ntfsmove but seems like it was never released
[06:03] <rellik> how can I find out the best driver to use with my 3com NIC?  the one ubuntu uses by default doesn't seem to work very well, but I thought 3com was very linux-friendly
[06:05] <Yun1> how do you install hardware drivers.... im new to linux
[06:05] <cablesm102> Yun1, it depends on the driver
[06:05] <Yun1> its for a intel PRO 10/100
[06:05] <Yun1> NIC
[06:05] <cablesm102> Can anyone help me set my HD to automatically spin down?
[06:06] <wraith> Anyone got any microsoft jokes?
[06:06] <Yun1> lol
[06:06] <wraith> I'm in need of a laugh right now :-(
[06:06] <cablesm102> not to spoil anybody's fun, but
[06:06] <cablesm102> !offtopic
[06:06] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:06] <wraith> lol
[06:06] <cablesm102> that channel's WAY more fun!
[06:06] <cablesm102> and we're getting bored in there...
[06:07] <Yun1> so can anyone help me install a driver for a intel pro 10/100 NIC
[06:08] <dwid>
[06:08] <felixhummel> hi
[06:09] <felixhummel> can I change mc shortcuts somehow?
[06:09] <dwid>
[06:09] <felixhummel> or do I have to hack the sources?
[06:09] <dwid>
[06:09] <felixhummel> Yun1, lspci
[06:10] <felixhummel> to see it's description (name, chipset, ...)
[06:10] <task0> where it supposed to mount drivers? in /mnt or in /media?????????
[06:10] <felixhummel> then google
[06:10] <felixhummel> task0, /media
[06:10] <felixhummel> task0, mount drivers?
[06:10] <task0> mount partitions
[06:10] <felixhummel> drives u mean, right?
[06:10] <task0> yes
[06:10] <felixhummel> yeah
[06:10] <task0> and waht is mtn for then?
[06:10] <felixhummel> sudo mkdir /media/something
[06:11] <Yun1>  so can anyone help me install a driver for a intel pro 10/100 NIC
[06:11] <felixhummel> dunno exactly
[06:11] <Yun1> oh whoop
[06:11] <danny> Hi folks! I'm very new to Linux. I need to know how to get Linux to detect my external HD. When I power the HD on nothing happens. What should I do?
[06:11] <felixhummel> for backwards compatibility i presum
[06:11] <felixhummel> e
[06:11] <task0> hehe
[06:12] <Yun1> felix... i need to install a NIC driver
[06:12] <Yun1> not a  drive
[06:12] <atrus> totem-xine is playing video alot choppier than xine, in particular, a dvd. seems to really chug when it's in fullscreen mode. any suggestions?
[06:12] <felixhummel> danny, after pluggin in the drive, type "dmeg | tail" (without quotes)
[06:13] <felixhummel> open a dialog with me and show me the results
[06:13] <felixhummel> Yun1, yeah
[06:13] <felixhummel> Yun1, when u type lspci, u get a list of all pci-attached devices
[06:13] <felixhummel> your NIC should be in it
[06:14] <felixhummel> Yun1, try "lspci | grep -i Intel"
[06:14] <felixhummel> brb
[06:14] <ransomheartache> is running ubuntu on a RAID 1 something that would be reasonable for a semi-noob to do?
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> ransomheartache: RAID 1 doesn't really accomplish much
[06:15] <ransomheartache> tonyyarusso: regardless, how doable is it?
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> ransomheartache: If you install via the !alternate disk, clicking a few options around :)
[06:15] <felixhummel> ransomheartache, how SEMI? compiled your own kernel?
[06:16] <ransomheartache> no, i know squat about kernel hacking
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> ransomheartache: Seriously, it's all built in.  If you can read and your hardware is supported properly, I expect it would be a breeze.  Haven't done it myself, but I've seen the stuff in the installer.
[06:17] <gadung> #surabaya
[06:18] <ransomheartache> i tried the regular installer briefly, i don't recall seeing anything about it
[06:18] <ransomheartache> but i wasn't looking too hard
[06:18] <holycow> anyone here have experience with dapper and sudoers ... specifically setting up user access to individual binaries?
[06:19] <rob_p> holycow: What are you trying to do?
[06:21] <holycow> just give a restricted user sudo access to network-admin and time-admin.  i can give the user FULL sudo access, but not access to specific binaries
[06:22] <blanky> hey guys
[06:22] <blanky> how do i play a sound
[06:22] <blanky> to test it
[06:22] <blanky> anyone?
[06:22] <blanky> I wanna test to see if I have sound, through the terminal
[06:22] <blanky> I want to play one
[06:23] <rob_p> holycow: You should be able to do something like, "user ALL= command1, command2, etc."
[06:23] <maddash> holycow: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=11144&view=previous&sid=b9921c4b73d0ac70646691cf793bb066 this deals with sudo shutdown, but you can transplant it to give access to network-admin, etc.
[06:23] <blanky> anyone? :(
[06:23] <blankfaze> can someone tell me what the boot parameter "vga=771" does?
[06:23] <blankfaze> techinically speaking
[06:24] <holycow> rob, appearently thats what i thought, but it keepos on saying password is incorrect.
[06:24] <holycow> :/
[06:24] <holycow> maddash, looking, danke
[06:24] <maddash> blankfaze: sets graphics mode to bios vga 771
[06:25] <rellik> how can I find out the best driver to use with my 3com NIC?  the one ubuntu uses by default doesn't seem to work very well, but I thought 3com was very linux-friendly
[06:25] <blankfaze> maddash: the reason i ask:  when i try to boot ubuntu from live CD with no params, i get a black screen with blinking cursor.  when i add "vga=771", i get the ubuntu logo and progress bar but it is off-centre and after a few mins the colors go all weird
[06:26] <maddash> blankfaze: try other vga modes
[06:26] <felixhummel> blankfaze, it sets video resolution
[06:26] <rebelfallen> Guys question. If I have a wireless router feeding my windows box, can I connect an ethernet cable to my OTHER router, and connect my linux box to that router and feed my linux box the wireless connection?
[06:26] <maddash> blankfaze: try 'vga=ask'
[06:27] <felixhummel> maddash, thx, I was looking for something like that
[06:27] <holycow> nope not working
[06:27] <ledemente> Hi all, I've got something really bad going on.
[06:27] <rebelfallen> cause im trying to set up my linux with a wireless usb card that I need to install software for but i cant connect to the net to do it
[06:27] <holycow> would either of you have dapper onhand and just try to give one of your restricted user account sudo to time-admin for example?
[06:27] <blankfaze> maddash:  will do.  i'm really seriously trying to make the jump from windoze but i am having a lot of trouble just getting ubuntu to boot :-)
[06:27] <danny> Where am I supposed to type "dmeg | tail" to access my external HD. (sorry for being such a noob)
[06:27] <holycow> i'm curious if its a dapper thing or my install thing
[06:27] <Bugz__> wow..
[06:28] <ledemente> I turned on my computer and it said something about "tty" and "Service not turned on"
[06:28] <ledemente> I can't seem to log on at all.
[06:28] <Bugz__> anyone in here that can help with nVidia sound problems?
[06:28] <rob_p> holycow: Yeah.  The sudo mechanism has to be picky because the whole integrity of the system's security depends on it.  visudo wrapper should help protect you from syntax errors in your /etc/sudoers file though.  You might have to experiment a little to get the syntax right.