[05:42] <inrelief> MadMerC, it's good for 'newbs' through experts.  i consider myself pretty comfortable in a unix environment, but ubuntu is the first distro to feel "together" immediatly after install
[05:42] <Joe1011> NickGarvey: will that work without a network connection?
[05:42] <skippy> Phoul sysv-rc-conf is the program, apt-get it and run it.  Dbus should be run levels 2,3,4,5 - you only need it on 2 though i think
[05:42] <myleftfoot> FirstLite: Thanks where is that release key?
[05:42] <intelikey> Phoul then try  sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[05:42] <NickGarvey> Joe1011: no
[05:42] <kibmcz> lasindi not sure why? I filed a bug report for it
[05:42] <RadiantFire> Phoul: if what he said doesn't work try nohup dbus-daemon &
[05:43] <boxubi> RadiantFire: ok, ive run that once, but ill do it again and pay more attention.
[05:43] <RadiantFire> boxubi: it didn't work?
[05:43] <skippy> sorry intelikey and co didnt see you were allready on the case
[05:43] <Phoul> brb
[05:43] <FirstLite> myleftfoot: I'm trying to find the signing key ID for you, but I don't have it on this machine.  It's surprisingly hard to find on the web.  Hang on . . .
[05:43] <Joe1011> NickGarvey: server edition comes with the nework disable
[05:43] <RadiantFire> boxubi: thats wierd
[05:43] <snails> hmm, dudes, your know if The S3 Savage VGA Drivers, can run xgl/compiz?
[05:43] <NickGarvey> Joe1011: turn it on?
[05:43] <Phoul> WEll umm
[05:43] <skippy> snails, mine ran so badly it was pointless
[05:43] <Phoul> It worked until I restarted gnome
[05:43] <Phoul> Then I got the error again
[05:43] <boxubi> RadiantFire: well, i didnt actually try to change the default res. from there... just was trying to get it to detect them,, it did.... but ubuntu only sees the 640...
[05:43] <myleftfoot> FirstLite: yeah, i was thinking that in the release folder they would say where the darn key is
[05:44] <Joe1011> NickGarvey: tried, it won't renew with my router, ifconfig renew eth0
[05:44] <RadiantFire> boxubi: try setting a higher resolution when given the chance
[05:44] <FirstLite> myleftfoot: Yeah, it should be in the Wiki somewhere.  When I do find it, you'll run "gpg --keyserver whatever --recv-keys 0xblahblah"
[05:44] <MadMerC> inrelief yeah when i first installed ubuntu i had this pc networked straight thru to my windows machine which had adsl internet thru a usb modem and before i had set anything up or even finished the instasll ubuntu had found the internet connection and downloaded updated files
[05:44] <RadiantFire> boxubi: wait, what kind of graphics card do you have?
[05:44] <skippy> snails:  i wouldnt recommend an intergrated SIS card with xgl
[05:44] <Verithrax> Meh, fglrx doesn't seem to work with my videocard. ATI programmers are morons. Is it possible to get true transluscency with the standard Radeon drivers?
[05:44] <RadiantFire> boxubi: is it old?
[05:44] <kibmcz> i tried to enable xgl but x would not load after
[05:44] <NickGarvey> Joe1011: try "dhclient eth0"
[05:44] <intelikey> skippy no no  jump right in.    i just thought i'd see if Phoul actually had dbus error or not.
[05:44] <boxubi> RadiantFire: nope, ati x700 - ubuntu recognizes
[05:44] <Phoul> Umm
[05:44] <intelikey> Phoul gnome starts ok now ?
[05:44] <Phoul> I just want it running soon because I need to go to bed
[05:44] <snails> thx skippy ^.^
[05:44] <Phoul> and no it dont lol
[05:45] <jet87> qtparted can resize ntfs, right?
[05:45] <Phoul> It starts and gives me that error
[05:45] <RadiantFire> boxubi: try selecting a higher resolution, if that fails, select the same resolution with a lower bit depth
[05:45] <snails> c u later.
[05:45] <ryan_> if my sound card does not support alsa is ther any other way to get sound?
[05:45] <NickGarvey> Phoul: if you mean the update, then don't bother, every so often a package will stop and ask you a question
[05:45] <intelikey> Phoul k that's what i thought,  it's not dbus. it's something else hosed.
[05:45] <NickGarvey> Phoul: so you can't do it while sleeping or such
[05:45] <Phoul> what?
[05:45] <MadMerC> inrelief all the other distros i have tried didnt even find my network or interenet or anything even after they were installed so before ubuntu was even finished installing i went to the ubuntu forum and told them how great i thought it was lol
[05:45] <spine> ive been stuck without x since i switched to dapper, now i used debxconf to reconfigure xorg and it launched, the problem now is that ive been relying on FGLRXCONFIG to get the settings i wanted with no hassle, no it doesnt seem to produce a working xorg.conf for me
[05:45] <ryan_> if my sound card does not support alsa is ther any other way to get sound?
[05:45] <Phoul> lmao NickGarvey im already on dapper I have been for a while
[05:45] <NickGarvey> Phoul: haha thats not what you were talking aobut
[05:46] <NickGarvey> Phoul: yup yup
[05:46] <Phoul> This latest update borked somethin
[05:46] <Phoul> lol
[05:46] <ctothej> ryan_: what sound card?
[05:46] <NickGarvey> Phoul: its the thought that counts
[05:46] <Phoul> intelikey, if its not dbus...
[05:46] <Phoul> This program cannot start until you start the dbus session service.
[05:46] <Phoul> Why would it say that?
[05:46] <penguinwhoflew> i just installed xserver-xgl from synaptic, now where's the nifty spinny cube?!
[05:46] <intelikey> Phoul idk.    somefin
[05:46] <inrelief> MadMerC, ubuntu really takes a lot of the 'crap work' out of setting up a linux install - i'm impressed...really impressed
[05:46] <Phoul> intelikey, ummm shit
[05:46] <Phoul> lol
[05:46] <ryan_> ctothej: 82801eb/er (ich5/ICH5R) AC97 Audio Controller
[05:46] <skippy> what happens when you manually start dbus?
[05:46] <MadMerC> inrelief yeah same here
[05:46] <spine> ive been stuck without x since i switched to dapper, now i used debxconf to reconfigure xorg and it launched, the problem now is that ive been relying on FGLRXCONFIG to get the settings i wanted with no hassle, no it doesnt seem to produce a working xorg.conf for me
[05:46] <Phoul> skippy, I dont know lol
[05:47] <Phoul> It maeks that error box go away but It comes back next time I start gnome
[05:47] <Phoul> :(
[05:47] <MadMerC> ok im gonna go find out how to install glx :P
[05:47] <myleftfoot> FirstLite: is this it? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/gpgkeys
[05:47] <ctothej> ryan_: what version of ubuntu?
[05:47] <penguinwhoflew> MadMerC: tell me when you figure out how =(
[05:47] <ryan_> ctothej: just installed dapper today
[05:47] <spine> does glx run with dual monitor setups? anyone plz
[05:47] <shachaf> penguinwhoflew: Do you have hardware acceleration working?
[05:47] <ctothej> ryan_: it didnt detect anything?
[05:47] <intelikey> Phoul i'm working with kde not gnome,  but that last update borked things in kde also....    heads will roll,    i'm sure.
[05:47] <shachaf> penguinwhoflew: What video card do you use?
[05:47] <penguinwhoflew> shachaf: if i knew how, i would!
[05:47] <lasindi> kibmcz: could you give me a link to that bug report please?
[05:47] <newcomplexlife1> Hello
[05:47] <kwadade> hello
[05:47] <skippy> Phoul try "/etc/init.d/dbus start" then "startx"
[05:47] <ctothej> spine: i would also like to know the answer to that
[05:47] <ryan_> ctothej: it does, it just doesnt work right
[05:47] <penguinwhoflew> shachaf: ati radeon 9600
[05:48] <kwadade> I keep getting error with gnome ubuntu
[05:48] <MadMerC> penguinwhoflew yup will do if i figure it out lol if ya want add my msn to ur gaim or wateva u use its<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:48] <kwadade> totem won't play
[05:48] <kwadade> what
[05:48] <ctothej> ryan_: it used alsa?
[05:48] <inrelief> and my GOD, i can't believe i was okay with the compile times needed w/gentoo....still not sure why i went debian->gentoo, but i can definitely say why i went gentoo->ubuntu
[05:48] <ryan_> ctothej: yep
[05:48] <kwadade> what could be wring?
[05:48] <penguinwhoflew> MadMerC: got no msn, just AIM on this sn
[05:48] <ryan_> ctothej: but it only plays from one side
[05:48] <Snake> Hey guys, what package would I want JUST for the gnome enviroment? No programs or any of that stuff
[05:48] <MadMerC> penguinwhoflew ok well i will look for ya in here then
[05:48] <Snake> not Ubuntu-desktop
[05:48] <ryan_> ctothej: i have ruled out my headphones speakers ect..
[05:48] <luisito> hello guys
[05:48] <ctothej> ryan_: kmenu->run command , type in "kmix", hit enter
[05:49] <ctothej> oohhh wait
[05:49] <kibmcz> lasindi  here ya go https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/47964
[05:49] <FirstLite> myleftfoot: I'm not sure what that is.  I just found 0xFBB75451, "Ubuntu CD Image Automatic Signing Key", on another system of mine.
[05:49] <shachaf> penguinwhoflew: Well, you can either install ATI's official drivers from their website or try installing the packages.
[05:49] <skippy> Snake, ubuntu-desktop metapackage is probably your best bet, but you will want other opinions on that
[05:49] <ctothej> ryan_: your using gnome right?
[05:49] <ryan_> ctothej: kmix command not found
[05:49] <Snake> skippy: I dont want that, it comes with to many extra packages and programs
[05:49] <lasindi> kibmcz: thanks
[05:49] <ryan_> ctothej: and yes
[05:49] <Snake> skippy: i just want the DE
[05:49] <thomas> hey guys, I'm trying to use an alpha version of the theora library, but when I try to remove the old version it wants to remove all of my multimedia apps too. is there some way i can get rid of the old version, and use the new?
[05:49] <Phoul> still nothing
[05:49] <kibmcz> lasindi  no prob
[05:49] <Phoul> its the same annoying error
[05:49] <MadMerC> now what was that glx channel or is it xgl ??
[05:49] <Joe1011> Aww, its telling me no dhcp offers received:( I know it works cause windows works online
[05:49] <FirstLite> myleftfoot: So try gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys FBB75451
[05:49] <bimberi> !xgl
[05:49] <ubotu> I heard xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[05:49] <no0tic> hi, I'm trying to install 6.06 but the installer stops every time on "Creating Live CD User..:"
[05:50] <ctothej> ryan_: im using kde, sorry.. you have to find the mixer controlling your speakers..
[05:50] <ctothej> anyone, what is the default gnome sound mixer???
[05:50] <ryan_> ctothej: wouldnt it be alsamixer?
[05:50] <MadMerC> bimberi thanx for tht
[05:50] <dr_willis> gmix - i think
[05:50] <dr_willis> or am i getting kmix confused.
[05:50] <ctothej> kmix is for kde definitely
[05:50] <Phoul> dr_willis, any ideas?
[05:50] <Joe1011> what other net commands are there besides ifconfig and dhclient?
[05:50] <ctothej> not sure of gmix
[05:50] <ryan_> your confusing it
[05:51] <ryan_> gmix didnt work
[05:51] <Phoul> because I need to go to bed but I really want this problem fixed lol
[05:51] <dr_willis> no gmix.. gnome likes to use huge-long-file-names-with-the-same-first-3-words :P
[05:51] <myleftfoot> FirstLite: ok, thanks let me try with that key...
[05:51] <ctothej> dr_willis: haha
[05:51] <dr_willis> Phoul:  now ya know why i normally keep /home on its own hd.. and reformat/reinstall on new releases
[05:52] <Phoul> Ive had dapper working up until today..
[05:52] <Snake> Someone :(
[05:52] <Snake> please
[05:52] <rixth> Bleh. xev notices my multimedia keys (state 0x10, keycode 153 (keysym 0x1008ff17, XF86AudioNext) but rhythmbox doesn' respond to them
[05:52] <ctothej> ryan_: im not sure how to get alsamixer to turn on different channels
[05:52] <r0xoR> dr_willis, hehehe, so does KDE
[05:52] <MadMerC> !glitzy
[05:52] <ubotu> MadMerC: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:52] <dr_willis> we need a LSB for command names. :P
[05:52] <Snake> Trying to install gnome without all the extra packages in the ubuntu-desktop ...
[05:53] <intelikey> yeah dr_willis how would reformat and reinstall be better if it was working until the final release update ?
[05:53] <r0xoR> dr_willis, ls /usr/bin
[05:53] <dr_willis> Snake:  fire up synaptic and start clicking..
[05:53] <Snake> Heh
[05:53] <no0tic> anyone could help me? I'm trying to install dapper but it freezes creatibg live cd user...
[05:53] <ryan_> ctothej: me either, ive been messing with it for a while, i think that its jsut not going to work with my hardware
[05:53] <Phoul> no more ideas from anyone?
[05:53] <ctothej> ryan_: try "mixer"
[05:53] <ryan_> do you know if there is antoher way to get sound
[05:53] <dr_willis> r0xoR:  i mean for like  kmix, gnomes shoudd be 'gmix' not. err.. whatever it was.. :P
[05:53] <Phoul> I guess I shall have to go sick in openbox...
[05:53] <ryan_> ctothej: didnt work
[05:53] <Phoul> sit*
[05:53] <ctothej> err. i just looked on a forum and it talked about it
[05:54] <elijahsnow> ryan: have you tried doing "add to panel" -> "volume control" by rightclicking your panel?
[05:54] <hey560> is this going to be for eft anytime soon?
[05:54] <Frogzoo> how do I upgrade from the DVD? (mounted at /mnt) - should defining DVD as the sole repo & 'apt-get dist-upgrade' do it, or do one _have_ to use the update-manager?
[05:54] <myleftfoot> FirstLite: i think that worked.. thank you
[05:55] <ctothej> elijahsnow: are you trying to make things easy?!
[05:55] <Phoul> well I gotta go to bed
[05:55] <Phoul> So unless anyone has any ideas
[05:55] <newhen> can anybody help me upgrade to dapper
[05:55] <Phoul> Im out
[05:55] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[05:55] <hey560> when is eft starting?
[05:55] <ubotu> upgrade is probably Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[05:55] <Rug> How do I get Konqueror (file manager mode) to remember my settings when I close it?
[05:55] <BHSPitMonkey> woo, less than 1.5 minutes till dapper is finished downloading
[05:55] <FirstLite> myleftfoot: No problem. Technically you have to verify the key fingerprint to be absolutely sure, of course :)
[05:55] <newhen> something is wrong with my upgrade manger
[05:55] <SillyRabbit> newhen: what ver are you running now ?
[05:55] <newhen> brezzy
[05:55] <joel_> you have an upgrade manger?
[05:55] <myleftfoot> FirstLite: yeah, im still looking for it on the ubuntu and launchpad
[05:55] <newhen> but the update manger looks like its out of date
[05:55] <Seq> does anybody know if a new version of libcm is required to enable the compositing abilities of metacity?
[05:56] <joel_> is it filled with hay and stuff?
[05:56] <FirstLite> myleftfoot: my gpg --fingerprint --list-keys shows a fingerprint of "C598 6B4F 1257 FFA8 6632  CBA7 4618 1433 FBB7 5451", for what it's worth :)
[05:56] <newhen> according to online
[05:56] <intelikey> ok it's definitely system wide and not a local issue.  konsole will not respond to system > configure konsole   changes.
[05:56] <SillyRabbit> newhen:  gksudo "update-manager
[05:56] <SillyRabbit> newhen:  gksudo "update-manager"
[05:56] <ctothej> ryan_: i just read this -> "Gnome Audio Mixer is available under Programs-->Multimedia, providing a graphical interface to mute/unmute channels and to select the channels for recording"
[05:56] <myleftfoot> FirstLite: same fingerprint
[05:57] <newhen> its says my system is upto date ?
[05:57] <SillyRabbit> newhen:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[05:57] <newhen> even though i havent installed dapper
[05:57] <bimberi> newhen: breezy is still a supported release (for the next 12 months)
[05:58] <SillyRabbit> newhen:  you have to UPGRADE not update
[05:58] <ryan_> ctothej: i read something that said my hardware wont work with alsamixer and i think i believe it. So my new plan is to find anther way to get sound
[05:58] <bimberi> newhen: sorry, 10 months
[05:58] <ryan_> any ideas?
[05:58] <nemik> hello, man dapper is not as smooth as i thought. open-office disappeared, totem won't start....
[05:58] <ctothej> ryan_: oh damn. seemed like standard AC97 audio output
[05:58] <snoops> nemik.. a clean install does okay
[05:59] <FirstLite> myleftfoot: ok, maybe I'll go try to put it on the Wiki myself somewhere . . . let me know if you find the "real" source
[05:59] <snoops> if the damn boot loader works
[05:59] <snoops> which it doesn't for me
[05:59] <nemik> i get "The program 'totem' received an X Window System error.
[05:59] <nemik> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[05:59] <nemik> The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.
[05:59] <nemik>   (Details: serial 70 error_code 11 request_code 141 minor_code 19)
[05:59] <nemik>   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
[05:59] <nemik>    that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
[05:59] <nemik>    To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
[05:59] <nemik>    option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
[05:59] <nemik>    backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)" when trying to start totem
[05:59] <Madpilot> nemik: pastebin!
[05:59] <nemik> sorry
[05:59] <ryan_> ctothej: thanks, but i think im done with this problem for the nigh
[06:00] <nemik> has anyone gotten totem to start? or the update icon on the top to not be orange? it says something about some cache permission problem with apt-get
[06:00] <ctothej> ryan_: sure, there are many people on forums with your problem...
[06:00] <ctothej> ill help you out again tomorrow. message me
[06:01] <matgates> Anyone else getting boot problems with the dapper CD?
[06:01] <ubuntu> nklnk
[06:01] <TaTonka> i need help with my soundcard
[06:02] <myleftfoot> FirstLite: ok, this is driving me nutz now... lol, must have gpg fingerprint...
[06:02] <myleftfoot> FirstLite: i'll let you know if I find it too
[06:02] <newhen> didnt work
[06:02] <TaTonka> can any1 help me with my sound card
[06:03] <newhen> i have brezy
[06:03] <ctothej> TaTonka: whats goin on?
[06:03] <newhen> but the updatemanger isnt working
[06:03] <TaTonka> ubuntu 5.10 isnt detecting my sound
[06:03] <dmb062082> hello all!
[06:03] <DShepherd> TaTonka: why not try ubuntu 6.06?
[06:04] <skippy> TaTonka: why not use Dapper? its newer so it will have improved support for newer hardware
[06:04] <ctothej> TaTonka: Firstly, upgrade to Dapper. Sooo many fixes.  Then troubleshoot it.
[06:04] <intelikey> i thought xterm had a built in menu ?
[06:04] <DShepherd> newhen: you tried gksudo update-manager -d?
[06:04] <TaTonka> i just got 5.10 yesterday, and im really just wanting to learn before i download a whole other one
[06:04] <intelikey> a way to set fonts ?
[06:04] <FirstLite> myleftfoot: Yeah, I think I spent a good half hour looking for it once, too.  I can't remember where I finally found the ID.  I don't think I ever found the fingerprint.   PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[06:05] <dmb062082> Lame question, is there a way to download and install files that failed to install via install cd with out knowing what they may be?
[06:05] <newhen> i was trying to upgrade dapper
[06:05] <dmb062082> I know I am missing files... but I can still run thank god
[06:05] <intelikey> ok i'm gone.
[06:06] <BHSPitMonkey> wow, I'm impressed with the production quality of the dapper ISO
[06:06] <myleftfoot> FirstLite: kind of scary that ppl don't check with all the mirrors around
[06:06] <matt_> has anyone else had a problem with dapper and firefox?
[06:06] <dmb062082> ill play around on the ubunto site
[06:06] <TaTonka> this soundcard is old
[06:06] <thomas> hey guys i accidentally removed that thing from the top bar where gaim minimises to how do i get it back
[06:06] <matt_> some sites just crash firefox or make it go to another site
[06:06] <BHSPitMonkey> windows OSS installers + live distro + installer, kewl
[06:06] <matt_> never had the problem with breezy
[06:06] <ctothej> TaTonka: its definitely supported
[06:06] <matgates> My dapper CD fails to boot properly.  I get past the bootloader to the ubunutu logo, then it hangs at "Mounting Root Filesystem".  Anyone else?
[06:06] <whiprush_> thomas: right click on the panel, and add the "notification area"
[06:07] <TaTonka> well it doesnt detect it:(
[06:07] <khalid> I just installed Ubuntu, and I have a question
[06:07] <matgates> I did a md5sum on /dev/hdc in my old installation - is OK.
[06:07] <TaTonka> ne help on detecting it
[06:08] <ctothej> TaTonka: have alsa installed?
[06:08] <matt_> anyone have trouble with firefox on dapper
[06:08] <crimsun> (alsa is the default in *buntu)
[06:08] <khalid> Is there a way to use KDE on regular Ubuntu? My burner is down and I can't burn KUbuntu
[06:08] <ctothej> crimsun: thanks
[06:08] <matt_> anyone...
[06:08] <matt_> ?
[06:08] <thomas> whiprush_: cheers
[06:08] <dmb062082> eh I have breezy badger, whats the command to do a mass update on all outdated packages?
[06:08] <TaTonka> no, unfortunely, i havent got internet to it, but i will tommorrow because the card i oredered will be in tomorrow
[06:08] <jet87> matt_: not at all for me
[06:08] <matt_> why is it messing up for me
[06:08] <Alth> Damnit, why won't Partition Magic resize my drives?
[06:08] <matt_> is it because I have the beta
[06:08] <matt_> ?
[06:08] <jet87> Bon Echo?
[06:08] <Madpilot> khalid: install kubuntu-desktop
[06:08] <DShepherd> khalid: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[06:08] <ctothej> TaTonka: i dont get it
[06:09] <TaTonka> dont get what?
[06:09] <justin`> anyone using the AMD64 dapper version? wondering if i should install that or the regular 386 iso.. is mplayer/flash, etc still broken on amd64?
[06:09] <jet87> i'm using the version that came with dapper, Bon Echo might be wonky
[06:09] <dmb062082> I installed the amd64 version
[06:09] <dmb062082> so far its ok
[06:09] <ctothej> dont have internet?
[06:09] <FirstLite> myleftfoot: Yeah, I'll say.  Maybe try looking in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg?  (I don't actually have an Ubuntu system with me right now)
[06:09] <TaTonka> on my ubuntu computer
[06:09] <matt_> should I reinstall if I am having trouble with the beta version
[06:09] <TaTonka> im in my win xp one right now
[06:09] <ctothej> ohhh.
[06:09] <r0xoR> justin`, i have doubts about whether it's worth it yet... but then again i've not tried to install it
[06:10] <TaTonka> see, i ordered a ethernet card for it yesterday
[06:10] <TaTonka> itll be in tomorrow
[06:10] <myleftfoot> FirstLite: no worries... ill just keep digging for the entertainment value
[06:10] <crimsun> justin`: w32codecs and flash are still ia32, yes.
[06:10] <KeithWeisshar> what version of firebox and thunderbird does the ubuntu live cd include
[06:10] <KeithWeisshar> there is a windows installer on the cd
[06:10] <snoops> Anyone up for a crack at a grub boot loading problem?
[06:10] <DaNeon> crimsun, can i install w32codecs on amd64?
[06:10] <kbrosnan> <IP_ADDRESS> for firefox and thunderbird
[06:10] <matt_> I can install from windows?
[06:10] <justin`> TaTonka: did you live in VT at one point?
[06:11] <khalid> I already downloaded and installed the desktop through Synaptec.  But I don't know how to boot into KDE
[06:11] <ctothej> TaTonka: Kind of need that, install the card and come back. search hte net in the meantime for solutions
[06:11] <TaTonka> VT...no
[06:11] <MadMerC> penguinwhoflew im just about to go thru a tut for xgl the addy is http://compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=652
[06:11] <KeithWeisshar> if i insert the ubuntu cd in windows i get the ubuntu cd browser
[06:11] <TaTonka> ive searched the net all day
[06:11] <Telache> How do I easily upgrade from Breezy to Dapper?  I can share the .ISO from my mac on the network if I could netboot....  Any suggestions?
[06:11] <Frem> Telache, use the ubuntu update manager
[06:11] <Telache> nice
[06:11] <TaTonka> but can u kinda give me a clue on what i gotta do to get alsa and what i gotta do with it
[06:11] <r0xoR> has anyone in here completed a successful install on an ibook?
[06:12] <ctothej> TaTonka: ive found some good forums using "ubuntu SiS 5598" in google
[06:12] <crimsun> DaNeon: in a 32-bit chroot, yes
[06:12] <penguinwhoflew> MadMerC: thanks
[06:12] <TaTonka> oh really,
[06:12] <MTecknology> One thing I really am starting to hate about Skype is that when I end a call by clicking the big red button, it fails to make any more calls until I restart
[06:12] <ctothej> TaTonka: seemingly, it should be installed already
[06:12] <TaTonka> thanks u
[06:12] <semq> anyone help me please: boot problem
[06:12] <TaTonka> well, it isint detected
[06:12] <TaTonka> so is that bad?
[06:12] <Madpilot> KeithWeisshar: the Windows stuff should be roughly the same version as is available for the Linux side - so FF 1.5.x
[06:12] <snoops> details semq?
[06:12] <DaNeon> ok. i'll find a read about it :D thanks crimsun
[06:12] <ctothej> you have to lsmod and see if your sound modules are there
[06:12] <justin`> crimsun: thanks, thats what i was wondering
[06:12] <KeithWeisshar> is the ubuntu dvd worth the 3gb download
[06:12] <luisito> I've upgraded to dapper since the beta version. From there I'll upgrade to the final version without any new repositories?
[06:13] <eobanb> luisito, correct
[06:13] <DShepherd> luisito: yup
[06:13] <KeithWeisshar> does the ubuntu dvd include a gui installer
[06:13] <r0xoR> how do i get an ibook to eject a cd? manually i mean?
[06:13] <luisito> eobanb: ok, excellent. thanks.
[06:13] <jet87> khalid: there's options on the gnome login screen to select the x server you want, choose kde
[06:13] <ctothej> TaTonka: the output of lsmod should have some lines like snd_*
[06:13] <semq> PCMCIA failed : cardmgr:no sockets found / warning error inserting genrtc
[06:13] <semq> this might be vmware
[06:13] <khalid> Oh, sweet, thanks ket87
[06:13] <crimsun> TaTonka: what sound card do you have?
[06:13] <snoops> KeithWeisshar the dvd contains all the separate installs
[06:14] <semq> ive this prob since i updated to drapper
[06:14] <snoops> server, desktop, alternate
[06:14] <ctothej> crimsun: SiS 5598
[06:14] <jet87> r0xoR: physically?
[06:14] <TaTonka> clothe, can we pm, its hard trying to keep up with this and use my ubuntu comp at the same time
[06:14] <kristos> need help
[06:14] <r0xoR> jet87, uhhh sure...
[06:14] <KeithWeisshar> is it worth the 3gb download for the dvd version
[06:14] <crimsun> TaTonka: ia32 or amd64?
[06:14] <mad_phoenix> is the home directory of tomcat /usr/share/tomcat5 or /var/lib/tomcat5?
[06:14] <KeithWeisshar> i just have the i386 desktop cd
[06:14] <ctothej> TaTonka: sure. keep talking in here with crimsun though, he may have something
[06:14] <TaTonka> ia32
[06:15] <distanceisdeath> Hello, I just installed dapper.  (I think).  It gave me errors- could not install ubuntu desktop, could not install kubuntu desktop, and something about dependecy.  Is this something to worry about?  I restarted my computer but it looks just like 5.10.  So whats up?
[06:15] <TaTonka> kk
[06:15] <jet87> i didn't think there were any buttons, etc to open the drive, though i might be misinterpreting
[06:15] <luisito> so far dapper has very good improvements but in fonts rendering. It's still not as good as fedora. :(
[06:15] <farous> distanceisdeath: did you make an upgrade?
[06:15] <distanceisdeath> i tried
[06:15] <MTecknology> distanceisdeath, System > About Ubuntu
[06:15] <distanceisdeath> okay.
[06:15] <crimsun> TaTonka: please pastebin the output from the following command: ``lspci -v && lspci -nv && cat /proc/asound/cards && tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat && amixer''
[06:15] <jet87> KeithWeisshar: you should be fine if you have broadband.  the dvd, i've found, is best used for people who don't have broadband
[06:16] <crimsun> TaTonka: then please tell us the pastebin URL you used
[06:16] <sasquatc4> anyone have any clue as to how to get hardware acceleration for an ati laptop, using the 340M chipset?
[06:16] <sasquatc4> was hoping dapper would fix it, but apparently not
[06:16] <farous> distanceisdeath: you can use sudo update-manager -d and you will find the new release in it
[06:16] <distanceisdeath> i did
[06:16] <farous> distanceisdeath: just let the gui take over
[06:16] <distanceisdeath> and it failed that update
[06:16] <ctothej> crimsun: he doesnt have net access on that computer yet :(
[06:16] <distanceisdeath> i guess?
[06:16] <makio> i have a question
[06:16] <TaTonka> yeah i dont
[06:16] <semq> any idea?
[06:16] <distanceisdeath> technology Im there.
[06:16] <farous> distanceisdeath: you might had problems with the net
[06:16] <distanceisdeath> no, it downloaded all correctly
[06:16] <Telache> Frem: it says my system is up to date in the update manager
[06:16] <crimsun> TaTonka: ok, all I really need is ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''
[06:16] <makio> how do i can acces to other partition
[06:17] <distanceisdeath> the isntallation..
[06:17] <ctothej> TaTonka: save that string. you will use it tommorrow!
[06:17] <TaTonka> crimsum, i type that?
[06:17] <justin`> sasquatc4: gotta love ATI.. even ATI themselves cant get their drivers right
[06:17] <farous> distanceisdeath: you can change breezy in your source list to dapper. then try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:17] <snoops> Okay. here's my problem.. installed ubuntu 6.06 desktop with gui..made my swap and / partitions.. chose them as mount points.. I never get asked to install grub..but it just tells me it's installing and then it's scanning for bootable hdds to add to grub. Tells me to restart..I do, and xp loads. No boot manager to be seen. (xp was installed on the same hdd originally)
[06:17] <crimsun> TaTonka: into a Terminal, yes, and tell us the 2 lines you get back
[06:17] <semq> how can i uninstall vmware?
[06:17] <distanceisdeath> what do i change in my source? do you aim or something?
[06:17] <TaTonka> kk, this will take me a bit
[06:17] <makio> i can see the partition but i have a message that i dont have permission to acces
[06:18] <jet87> makio: you mean a windows partition?
[06:18] <farous> distanceisdeath: just change every instance of "breezy"to "dapper" to point to the dapper repos
[06:18] <makio> yes
[06:18] <distanceisdeath> what source files?
[06:18] <snoops> my main drive is a sata one..I also have a IDE connected..could it be possible that grub installed itself into the IDE drive's mbr rather than the sata drives?
[06:18] <jrattner1> DAPPER YES!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:18] <farous> distanceisdeath: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:18] <jet87> makio: do you want to write to the partition or just read the files?
[06:18] <distanceisdeath> is that it?
[06:18] <NickGarvey> snoops: maybe.. you can use a boot cd to get into ubuntu so you can toss grub on it
[06:19] <makio> the bouth
[06:19] <semq> well ty for all
[06:19] <TaTonka> is says there is no such file or directery
[06:19] <NickGarvey> snoops: I use UBCD for booting into partitions
[06:19] <myleftfoot> FirstLite: I found it... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto?highlight=%28verify%29%7C%28md5%29
[06:19] <jet87> do you know if its NTFS?
[06:19] <crimsun> TaTonka: ok. What about ``lspci -v |grep -i audio'' ?
[06:19] <ctothej> TaTonka: check that spelling!
[06:19] <Micksa> okay, stupid newbie question.
[06:19] <Micksa> ... geez that's a lot of people
[06:19] <NickGarvey> Micksa: do share, I like the easy ones
[06:19] <snoops> NickGarvey hmm
[06:20] <makio> i think is about the user but i login like administrator
[06:20] <akk> Anybody good with cups? (on dapper)
[06:20] <cyphir> hi could someone answere a quick question?
[06:20] <snoops> NickGarvey, here's a question.. the XP partition is set to the boot partition for that drive
[06:20] <Micksa> I need to do a network diagram.
[06:20] <jet87> wait, are you talking about a partition on the computer you're on?
[06:20] <TaTonka> spelling is correct
[06:20] <snoops> would that make the difference?
[06:20] <Micksa> like, computer network.
[06:20] <makio> yes
[06:20] <andrejkw> Hey guys
[06:20] <dmb062082> Just installed enlightenment, I hope it is as cool as it sounds
[06:20] <Micksa> is there anything suitable for that kinda thing?
[06:20] <RuffianSoldier> how do i enable atp loopbreak option?
[06:20] <Koskun> Good monrning everyone
[06:20] <andrejkw> Something is with the libgtk2.0-dev package.
[06:20] <Micksa> I'm trying dia, but it's proving not fun to use
[06:20] <justin`> cyphir: yes I just did, and unfortunately you only get one question
[06:20] <makio> i have 2 hD and 4 partition
[06:21] <snoops> because since I couldn't change that in the gui, I assumed it was fine, and that if it needed to be changed it would happen when it's installed?
[06:21] <crimsun> andrejkw: eh?
[06:21] <akk> Micksa: dia works pretty well for that, but it does take some practice to use it.
[06:21] <jet87> take a look at this makio: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NTFSReadWrite
[06:21] <NickGarvey> snoops: you mean the flag is set for boot?
[06:21] <andrejkw> I have a bunch of applications that I am trying to compile, and none of them find GTK+ 2.0 library or header files.
[06:21] <Frem> Telache, you have two options. You can wait till it says you can upgrade, or you can do it from the command line with apt-get
[06:21] <snoops> yep NickGarvey
[06:21] <makio> ok let me see
[06:21] <NickGarvey> Micksa: network diagram.. explain more
[06:21] <jrattner1> What directories do you suggest i "save" if im doing a fresh install
[06:21] <andrejkw> EVen though I have gtk2.0 gtk2.0-dev and other ones installed.
[06:21] <cyphir> justin, ok thanks =P, its how do i install themes on top of Xgl/Compiz, if it even is possible
[06:21] <TaTonka> i typed that
[06:21] <FirstLite> myleftfoot: nice job, thanks.  I think I'll bookmark this one :)
[06:21] <humbolt> can anybody pass me his grub menu.lst kernel line? I changed it some time ago but want back the grafical bootscreen now!
[06:21] <TaTonka> nothing happens
[06:21] <Koskun> Is there anyone that could help a completely new person to linux at a minimum get his display looking proper?
[06:21] <NickGarvey> Micksa: I'm not a sys admin or anything so I don't really know what you mean
[06:22] <distanceisdeath> farous, i enter that in the terminal and it doesnt come out as anything after my password.  just ready for a new command.
[06:22] <jet87> Koskun: what sort of proper?
[06:22] <jet87> like wrong resolution?
[06:22] <crimsun> !info libgtk2.0-dev dapper
[06:22] <myleftfoot> FirstLite: ditto
[06:22] <ubotu> libgtk2.0-dev: (Development files for the GTK+ library), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 2.8.17-1ubuntu5 (dapper), Packaged size: 2167 kB, Installed size: 8012 kB
[06:22] <crimsun> andrejkw: dpkg -l libgtk2.0-dev |grep ^ii
[06:22] <Micksa> akk: okay, if you have used it, what are the units the rulers and grid are using?
[06:22] <Micksa> I can't tell for the life of me
[06:22] <Koskun> Jet87: on a dell laptop, and the resolution is stuck at 640-480 only
[06:22] <Micksa> they seem to be units of somewhere around 12-13mm or something
[06:22] <MTecknology> Who is Mike Shuttleworth??
[06:22] <andrejkw> crimsun: ii  libgtk2.0-dev  2.8.17-1ubuntu5 Development files for the GTK+ library
[06:23] <NickGarvey> snoops: that shouldn't matter
[06:23] <NickGarvey> snoops: whatever the flag is set too
[06:23] <humbolt> real easy task, just paste your grub kernel line here for me and you made my day, folks!
[06:23] <paul__> Ive been reading some info in ubuntu forums about automatix. Anyone have familiarity with this app?
[06:23] <andrejkw> Something is going on, I think the package is broken
[06:23] <akk> Micksa: Sorry, I don't remember. I probably never paid attention since I was never making diagrams of a particular size.
[06:23] <crimsun> andrejkw: pastebin the output from configure/compile of the program you're trying to compile
[06:23] <humbolt> please
[06:23] <humbolt> this is an easy one!
[06:23] <Frem> MTecknology, google! Mike is not an obscure person!
[06:23] <snoops> NickGarvey, doesn't the boot partition have to be where grub resides?
[06:23] <jet87> there's info on fixing resolutions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:23] <humbolt> anyone
[06:23] <Gretyl> anyone want to help me roll together an Ubuntu 6.06 ISO that will boot on my dual G5 tower?
[06:24] <Nothus> humbolt: Which line?
[06:24] <crimsun> TaTonka: ok, how old is your computer?
[06:24] <makio> jet87 i need to install linux NTFS File Sytem, sorry but i'm new in linux
[06:24] <NickGarvey> snoops: you have a seperate partion for /boot?
[06:24] <Gretyl> I've got an ATI X800XT in it, which I hear complicates the driver issues
[06:24] <crimsun> TaTonka: or better yet, what's the make & model?
[06:24] <farous> now that is critical security problem. how come loging in from recovery mode i login directly as root. no authontiction is ever asked for?
[06:24] <TaTonka> i typed lspci -v and there is alot of unknown devices from SIS
[06:24] <ctothej> paul__: i used it. it is good for installing a whole bunch of apps and plugins that will need
[06:24] <TaTonka> its a 98
[06:24] <NickGarvey> partition* separate*
[06:24] <freakabcd> hi all
[06:24] <humbolt> Nothus: in menu.lst the kernel line of your main kernel section
[06:24] <andrejkw> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/752815
[06:24] <crimsun> TaTonka: anything returned from ``lspci -v |grep -i multimedia''?
[06:24] <Nothus> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash
[06:24] <Gretyl> as it is, the live-cd eventually locks up with all of the "live-*" yaboot options
[06:24] <TaTonka> 1 sec
[06:24] <akk> Anybody know a way to configure cups besides the web interface? The web interface just takes me to a blank page after prompting for username and password.
[06:25] <freakabcd> why don't we have a diff/delta system for binary debs ?
[06:25] <paul__> Thanks I was kinda of leary about it since I finally got my system up and running rather nicely.
[06:25] <snoops> NickGarvey yep I do
[06:25] <jet87> makio: there are very detailed instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse but be careful! i couldn't use my NTFS drive for a while because the directions didn't work. YMMV
[06:25] <Nothus> humbolt: Baring in mind I'm using SATA soe it comes up as SCSI..
[06:25] <r0xoR> akk, did you search/read the wiki?
[06:25] <humbolt> Nothus: splash, that's what I was looking for!
[06:25] <freakabcd> its a pain in the ass that it gets a freaking 30 meg ooo-core file!
[06:25] <r0xoR> akk, and what kind of printer did you get?
[06:25] <NickGarvey> snoops: ah, I did the same thing for a while
[06:25] <TaTonka> nope there isnt
[06:25] <r0xoR> akk, or do you have?
[06:25] <crimsun> freakabcd: there's one being considered
[06:25] <Kwek> hi
[06:25] <Kwek> is this irc chan for support?
[06:25] <humbolt> Other question, does anybody know anything about iSCSI?
[06:25] <freakabcd> crimsun, it better be considered.
[06:25] <NickGarvey> snoops: might be able to get a grub binary and install it that way
[06:25] <farous> am i the only one bothered by that?  loging in from recovery mode i login directly as root. no authontiction is ever asked for? i just am given directly root privlages. anyone can boot the pc in recovery mode ..!
[06:25] <jet87> Kwek: yes, ask away
[06:25] <akk> r0xoR: I have an epson c86. It works really well, but I want to make several entries for it so I can print with high quality or duplex from apps other than gimp.
[06:25] <r0xoR> man the ppl in #macosx are just as hostile as any other channel... go figure
[06:25] <snoops> NickGarvey so am I correct in saying if I have a /boot partition that, that partiton needs to be falled as boot?
[06:25] <freakabcd> cos seriously i'm sick of getting multi-megabyte packages almost everyday :(
[06:26] <makio> jet87: ok thanks
[06:26] <MTecknology> How many people in here know offhand what Bug #1 is?
[06:26] <snoops> NickGarvey, yeah I'm trying to work out WHY ubuntu install doesn't work
[06:26] <Kwek> well, im quite noob at this. It is a must to reformat before partition right?
[06:26] <crimsun> freakabcd: you chose to run the development branch before it finalised.
[06:26] <Paradoxx> !wifi
[06:26] <ubotu> from memory, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:26] <r0xoR> akk, ok out of my realm of understanding... good luck
[06:26] <andrejkw> crimsun: so, any ideas?
[06:26] <makio> but i do something that i can acces to the partition
[06:26] <jet87> Kwek: are you still in windows or otherwise?
[06:26] <Nothus> r0xoR: Did you go and suggest that they should just load XP by default? :-p
[06:26] <snoops> because I can't feel I can recommend this release to people without knowing why grub isn't working
[06:26] <crimsun> TaTonka: is the sound card a peripheral card?
[06:26] <r0xoR> Kwek, opposite
[06:26] <r0xoR> Kwek, partition before reformat
[06:26] <jrattner1> Has Automatix been released for Dapper?
[06:26] <jrattner1> ?
[06:26] <crimsun> andrejkw: can you give me a sec? I'm a bit busy.
[06:26] <Kwek> im still in dows
[06:26] <Kwek> windows*
[06:26] <akk> r0xoR: Basically the question isn't anything difficult, it boils down to "how do I add a second printer since the web interface won't let me?"
[06:26] <dr_willis> jrattner1:  dont use automatix
[06:26] <dr_willis> !automatix
[06:26] <ubotu> methinks automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[06:26] <TaTonka> its onboard
[06:26] <NickGarvey> snoops: grub worked fine for me
[06:26] <andrejkw> crimsun: ok, np
[06:27] <r0xoR> Kwek, yes you will need to erase your hard drive so back it up
[06:27] <Kwek> im quite confused on the parition part
[06:27] <NickGarvey> snoops: not sure why... it didn't.. for you..
[06:27] <ptwalrus> snoops: grub is distro indepdenant
[06:27] <r0xoR> Kwek, burn your files onto a cd or save them on the internet somewhere
[06:27] <makio> no in Ubuntu
[06:27] <crimsun> TaTonka: ok, do you have any links to your computer's make & model?
[06:27] <NickGarvey> snoops: maybe you didn't tell it that you loved it
[06:27] <makio> lokk
[06:27] <andrejkw> !easyubuntu
[06:27] <ubotu> somebody said easyubuntu was an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[06:27] <makio> look
[06:27] <Frem> snoops, when grub isn't working for you, you mean. works fine here.
[06:27] <TaTonka> yes
[06:27] <Nothus> Anyone know the Xsession scripts well enough to tell me why FVWM can't start from gdm?!?
[06:27] <TaTonka> its an old hp pavilion 6343
[06:27] <r0xoR> Kwek, a "partition" is just a special word for a section of your hard disk
[06:27] <OrTigaS> hi! i just install my modem driver PCI intel536ep and now its dialing... but here's my problem after the modem dial and sounds finished and supposed to be connected this is the message i got "waiting for prompt" then dial again connecting connecting connecting.......n. then disconnected... any idea here??
[06:27] <freakabcd> crimsun, ok. even after dapper has been released, if some update to ooo-core is there, its damn sure going to be 30 megs!
[06:27] <Kwek> after partition, do i install windows on one partition first, then use the livecd to install ubuntu to another partition?
[06:27] <TaTonka> with a couple of customizations
[06:27] <snoops> Frem, right. Are you dual booting with sata drives?
[06:27] <freakabcd> so don;t tell me its only for the devel branch
[06:27] <makio> i go to System|  Administration  | Disks
[06:27] <r0xoR> Kwek, yes, what version of windows do you have?
[06:27] <Kwek> xp sp2
[06:27] <dr_willis> Nothus:  you made a xfwm.desktop file for gdm to see/use ? (or did it make one automaticially?)
[06:28] <snoops> NickGarvey.. I needed to give it love? Damnit
[06:28] <jet87> Kwek: its a Really Good Idea to back up your files either online (rec: www.box.net) or burn them to a disk.  the ubuntu install can resize partitions; thats what i've had it always do
[06:28] <farous> Nothus: does it have an entry in /usr/share/xsessions?
[06:28] <r0xoR> Kwek, ok, the windows xp install disk will allow you to partition your hard drive
[06:28] <Kwek> ic
[06:28] <Kwek> thanks for the help
[06:28] <Nothus> farous: Yes
[06:28] <ctothej> dr_willis: what config files does automatix overwrite?
[06:28] <distanceisdeath> my gedit cannot open my sources list.  what to do?
[06:28] <jet87> the ubuntu install disk lets your partition your drive
[06:28] <makio> and then  i choose the HD and the partition
[06:28] <TaTonka> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=61036&docname=bph04584
[06:28] <TaTonka> theres link
[06:28] <TaTonka> to specs
[06:28] <Nothus> dr_willis: Installed from package..
[06:28] <Frem> snoops, don't even know what the sata drivers are. I assume anyone intelegent enough to know about and be using them is also intellegent enough to fix grub.
[06:28] <NickGarvey> ew who said automatix
[06:28] <crimsun> freakabcd: obviously it's going to be huge, which is unfortunate, but don't for one second think we're going to shove an entirely new untested content distribution system into a released, stable distro, /much less our network infrastructure/
[06:28] <protocol1> !ff1.5
[06:28] <NickGarvey> don't make me get my gun
[06:28] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:28] <freakabcd> crimsun, anyway. i'm happy that it is being considered.
[06:29] <r0xoR> Kwek, this is what you do: 1) erase any existing partitions 2) make one new primary partition for windows 3) make it small enough so you have free space left over for linux
[06:29] <crimsun> TaTonka: ok, give me a second, please
[06:29] <ptwalrus> Frem: sata is the standard thats replacing IDE, anyone with new equipment is going to have them
[06:29] <OrTigaS> any idea about my problem re:dial-up
[06:29] <Nothus> farous: By the way, this was working until I did an apt-get dist upgrade from Breezy to Dapper this morning :-)
[06:29] <jet87> r0xoR: why that when the dapper disk resizes?
[06:29] <farous> Nothus: try to find if the .desktop entry point to the write executable. that is all i can think of
[06:29] <TaTonka> kk
[06:29] <Kwek> okay thanks
[06:29] <Kwek> how much does ubuntu need? 20gb?
[06:29] <crimsun> andrejkw: can you pastebin the config.log?
[06:29] <freakabcd> crimsun, i agree. but maybe it must have been thought of even during the hoary (or even pre-hoary)days
[06:29] <NickGarvey> that is a really really annoying noise..
[06:29] <r0xoR> jet87, huh, i didn't know it did that :)
[06:29] <jet87> it has qtparted integrated
[06:29] <NickGarvey> turning a cd into an image and writing it to a usb drive
[06:29] <jet87> its nifty
[06:29] <farous> Nothus: the executable might have been erased and you need to install the dapper package
[06:29] <penguinwhoflew> anyone care to explain this error: FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/volatile/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted
[06:29] <freakabcd> anyway, as i said earlier. i'm quite happy that some implementation of diff/delta is being considered
[06:30] <farous> Nothus: i had a similar problem Nothus
[06:30] <Nothus> Hmm, says Exec fvwm, wonder if I should point it at fvwm2 instead
[06:30] <Kwek> how much spaace does ubunt rewquires?
[06:30] <distanceisdeath> robot on how to install dapper please
[06:30] <crimsun> freakabcd: it was, and it has not been and is not marked high priority
[06:30] <Frem> ptwalrus, Well, I've got a new machine. How do I check if it's SATA?
[06:30] <TaTonka> kwek, it doesnt require much
[06:30] <NickGarvey> !upgrade
[06:30] <ubotu> hmm... upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[06:30] <jet87> Kwek: 20 should be plenty fine
[06:30] <TaTonka> maybe a gig or 2?
[06:30] <Kwek> okay thanks alot jet
[06:30] <jet87> bigger than that
[06:30] <andrejkw> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/752827
[06:30] <r0xoR> Kwek, i would personally want about 20G or more... but i bet it'll install in 1-5G depending
[06:30] <freakabcd> crimsun, what!!
[06:30] <freakabcd> its not high priority?
[06:30] <jet87> it needs at least 2
[06:31] <Kwek> i will install it at 20gb
[06:31] <freakabcd> oh man :(
[06:31] <jet87> Kwek: you're using dapper right?
[06:31] <Kwek> yes
[06:31] <TaTonka> i used a 20 gig seagate
[06:31] <TaTonka> lol
[06:31] <penguinwhoflew> anyone care to explain this error: FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/volatile/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted
[06:31] <Kwek> i use windows xp sp2 install disk to partition or fdisk?
[06:31] <NickGarvey> ew
[06:31] <r0xoR> TaTonka, ouch :)
[06:31] <farous> penguinwhoflew: use sudo modprobe
[06:31] <TaTonka> ouch what? rox0r
[06:31] <crimsun> freakabcd: it is simply impossible to address every person's pet project in any given release
[06:31] <snoops> Frem - well then there ya go. What a few people have think has happened is, grub installs itself into the wrong mbr. I have an IDE drive and a SATA drive connected to this pc. The sata drive is my main drive.
[06:31] <jet87> the install had partitioning software built in.  if you're doing a graphical install its really simple
[06:31] <penguinwhoflew> farous: that was the result of that command
[06:31] <OrTigaS> hi! i just install my modem driver PCI intel536ep and now its dialing... but here's my problem after the modem dial and sounds finished and supposed to be connected this is the message i got "waiting for prompt" then dial again connecting connecting connecting.......n. then disconnected... any idea here? help
[06:32] <r0xoR> Kwek, well it appears you may not need to do any of that
[06:32] <farous> penguinwhoflew: hmm it might be already there
[06:32] <Kwek> yup but because im install xp on one partition first
[06:32] <freakabcd> crimsun, no. i mean is someone working on it or its just an idea that has low priority now?
[06:32] <r0xoR> Kwek, do you have windows on this computer currently?
[06:32] <Kwek> yes
[06:32] <crimsun> freakabcd: it's any idea that is being tested by community members and is possibly a SoC project
[06:32] <crimsun> an idea, rather
[06:32] <farous> penguinwhoflew: try sudo modprobe -l
[06:32] <penguinwhoflew> farous: oh. well what's that mean? i was trying to get the nifty 3d graphics working and someone was walking me through it
[06:33] <r0xoR> Kwek, are you planning on erasing that windows and installing a new copy anyway? or would you prefer to keep your current windows installation and your files?
[06:33] <Vaske_Car> How to adjust refresh rate, its max 60Hz??? (6.06)
[06:33] <Frem> snoops, Point taken. So, this affects people with newer machines who have multiple hard drives that use both SATA and IDE?
[06:33] <crimsun> andrejkw: here's your culprit: conftest.c:93:21: error: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory
[06:33] <Kwek> i would prefer to keep, however i currently have 15gb harddrive space left only
[06:33] <crimsun> andrejkw: sudo apt-get --reinstall install libgtk2.0-dev
[06:33] <jet87> Kwek: you can install Ubuntu in less than that
[06:33] <Snake> Hey guys, when I boot it gets stuck on "decomressing kernal" (I did a server install)
[06:33] <andrejkw> crimsun: already tried that
[06:33] <tc34> hello
[06:33] <Snake> help?
[06:33] <Kwek> due to a corrupted version of the os which was not erased
[06:33] <farous> penguinwhoflew: 3-d accelartion is enabled in the free driver and quite frankly the performance diff is not that huge
[06:33] <andrejkw> crimsun: I think it's something with the package
[06:33] <Kwek> ic
[06:33] <ptwalrus> does apt-get do things in alphabetical order?
[06:33] <ptwalrus> n/m
[06:33] <Kwek> how much do u recommend?
[06:33] <jrsims> hey, did the repos update with the new dapper or what?
[06:34] <r0xoR> ptwalrus, erm i think it does it in *dependency* order
[06:34] <Madpilot> jrsims: yes
[06:34] <r0xoR> ptwalrus, that's just a hunch though :)
[06:34] <farous> penguinwhoflew: and 8.25 drivers work the same as the 8.24 drivers which are in the reposit. you do not need to manually insall them
[06:34] <freakabcd> crimsun, any bug-report or feature request logged on launchpad or similar site where i can take a look at this?
[06:34] <Vaske_Car> crimsun, how to enable higher refresh rate? This is 6.06)
[06:34] <jrsims> Madpilot: how come an apt-get upgrade isn't finding anything new?
[06:34] <crimsun> andrejkw: ``pkg-config --libs gtk+-2.0''
[06:34] <ptwalrus> yeah I saw it did some python after some n stuff
[06:34] <OrTigaS> any idea with my problem?
[06:34] <jet87> you could do even 5 GB, that should be enough
[06:34] <Gretyl> anyone know which ATI cards are supported for PPC hardware?
[06:34] <crimsun> Vaske_Car: have you tried the fixres hints?
[06:34] <penguinwhoflew> farous: ok, so how do i install the nifty spinning 3d cube xgl thing?
[06:34] <Kwek> so i can install without partitioning or let ubuntu do the job?
[06:34] <jet87> you definitely want to keep space for windows
[06:34] <Vaske_Car> no, where?
[06:34] <crimsun> freakabcd: look on LP under the specs
[06:34] <crimsun> Vaske_Car: query the bot
[06:34] <r0xoR> Kwek, you can let ubuntu do the job
[06:34] <blac> hi
[06:34] <Kwek> thanks
[06:35] <TaTonka> crimsum, u havent forgot about me have ya :p
[06:35] <Kwek> i will give 8gb space to ubuntu then
[06:35] <andrejkw> crimson: Package glitz was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[06:35] <andrejkw> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `glitz.pc'
[06:35] <andrejkw> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[06:35] <andrejkw> Package 'glitz', required by 'cairo', not found
[06:35] <r0xoR> Kwek, don't take *my* word for it though :)
[06:35] <Vaske_Car> crimsun, how?
[06:35] <crimsun> TaTonka: sorry for the delay, it'll take a few more minutes
[06:35] <TaTonka> ok
[06:35] <r0xoR> Kwek, that's just what i hear
[06:35] <TaTonka> no rush man
[06:35] <Kwek> though
[06:35] <OrTigaS> tulong naman
[06:35] <Kwek> one of my friend said partitioning without reformatting is very messy
[06:35] <klormexor> guys whats the program for .rar .zip extensions? to unzip
[06:35] <jet87> Kwek: everything should go fine
[06:35] <Kwek> okay
[06:35] <TaTonka> just sitting here watching the wormhole screensaverr lol
[06:35] <farous> penguinwhoflew: ok you can install the fglrx-control xorg-driver-fglrx and linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) from the repositories. Then follow the xgl howto
[06:35] <Kwek> i hope it doesnt mess up
[06:35] <dr_willis> zip for .zip unrar for rar
[06:35] <jet87> just know how much you want to use for Linux
[06:35] <dr_willis> !rar
[06:35] <ubotu> rumour has it, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[06:35] <crimsun> andrejkw: that's your fault, bud. You've used a non-Ubuntu version of cairo :-)  Let me guess -- were you playing with Xgl?
[06:35] <Kwek> okay
[06:35] <Necrosan_> whats a good program to burn data cds?
[06:35] <klormexor> dr_willis: thx
[06:36] <Necrosan_> everything like gnomebaker seems to be failing
[06:36] <sasquatc4> so yea, anyone? anyone at all on the radeon 340M issue?
[06:36] <Kwek> swap should be double ram right?
[06:36] <distanceisdeath> How do i update to dapper
[06:36] <andrejkw> crimsun: :P oopsie :P
[06:36] <jet87> !update
[06:36] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jet87
[06:36] <Vaske_Car> !tell Vaske_Car about refreshrate
[06:36] <crimsun> andrejkw: uh huh
[06:36] <titanium_platypu> my Dapper 6.06 install crashes at 67%
[06:36] <jet87> !upgrade
[06:36] <OrTigaS> hi! i just install my modem driver PCI intel536ep and now its dialing... but here's my problem after the modem dial and sounds finished and supposed to be connected this is the message i got "waiting for prompt" then dial again connecting connecting connecting.......n. then disconnected... any idea here??
[06:36] <distanceisdeath> jet nothing...
[06:36] <Vaske_Car> :(
[06:36] <farous> penguinwhoflew: so ti is sudo apt-get install fglrx-control xorg-driver-fglrx and linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[06:36] <Kwek> must swap be double ram?
[06:36] <distanceisdeath> !upgrade
[06:36] <titanium_platypu> it's done it twice
[06:36] <titanium_platypu> can anybody help me?
[06:36] <crimsun> andrejkw: right, so dpkg -l libcairo\* libglitz\*
[06:36] <nbx909> Kwek, yes
[06:36] <blac> how to downlod ubunto?
[06:36] <bimberi> Kwek: rule of thumb is 2xRAM to a max of 1GB of swap
[06:36] <andrejkw> crimsun: appearently installing libglitz1-dev worked
[06:36] <nbx909> !dowload
[06:36] <ubotu> nbx909: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:36] <r0xoR> blac, go do the website
[06:36] <distanceisdeath> !upgrade
[06:36] <nbx909> !download
[06:37] <ubotu> [download]  get Ubuntu LiveCD & install ISOs at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and if you need information on burning ISOs, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[06:37] <ubotu> from memory, upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[06:37] <Kwek> i have 1gb ram
[06:37] <Paradoxx> argh... need help to get wifi on centrino laptop workin
[06:37] <crimsun> andrejkw: you're still using broken non-Ubuntu packages ;-)
[06:37] <snoops> Frem: it would seem so, but I can't confirm - I only know a few people have the same issue.. It might be an issue with sata drives.. or because I have both..or whatever..
[06:37] <nbx909> Kwek, so 2gb of swap
[06:37] <Kwek> so i require 2gb swap or 1gb swap?
[06:37] <distanceisdeath> how do i update to dapper? anyone
[06:37] <Kwek> okay
[06:37] <no0ke> what's the problem when i play music, it sounds like im fast-forwarding it, sounds like a cartoon?
[06:37] <andrejkw> crimsun: is that bad?
[06:37] <distanceisdeath> wheres the bot
[06:37] <blac> wat site?
[06:37] <Snake> Hey guys, when I boot it gets stuck on "decomressing kernal" (I did a server install)...Help?
[06:37] <crimsun> andrejkw: yes
[06:37] <penguinwhoflew> farous: where is the xgl how to?
[06:37] <bimberi> Kwek: 1gb max
[06:37] <r0xoR> Kwek, 1G swap
[06:37] <nbx909> !tell distanceisdeath about upgrade
[06:37] <crimsun> no0ke: I'll address your question in alsa in a sec
[06:37] <OrTigaS> guys guys guys help
[06:37] <titanium_platypu> my Dapper 6.06 install crashes at 67%.  it's done it twice.  can anybody help me?
[06:37] <r0xoR> Kwek, you want the same amount of ram as swap usually
[06:37] <farous> tell penguinwhoflew about xgl
[06:37] <distanceisdeath> thank you
[06:37] <Kwek> ic
[06:37] <farous> !tell penguinwhoflew about xgl
[06:37] <r0xoR> Kwek, better to go lower than higher
[06:37] <andrejkw> crimsun: but I used the Xgl, Compiz CVS Repository for Dapper
[06:37] <jrsims> titanium_platypu: is it crashing, or just freezing?
[06:37] <jet87> titanium_platypu: did you check the cd? are you sure its good?
[06:38] <sasquatc4> !tell sasquatc4 about xgl
[06:38] <crimsun> andrejkw: which is utterly non sponsored by Canonical :-)
[06:38] <Kwek> so i wud have 1gb swap
[06:38] <crimsun> not, rather
[06:38] <Kwek> thanks for all the help
[06:38] <lightdifference> does anyone have the md5 checksum for the ppc version of dapper?
[06:38] <farous> penguinwhoflew: see ubotu link there is a seperate one for ati drivers. start from the point that you have fglrx installed already
[06:38] <Necrosan_> whats a good program to burn data cds?
[06:38] <Kwek> nero
[06:38] <Necrosan_> everything like gnomebaker seems to be failing
[06:38] <Snake> Hey guys, when I boot it gets stuck on "decomressing kernal" (I did a server install)...Help?
[06:38] <Necrosan_> no
[06:38] <_Grout> nerolinux
[06:38] <titanium_platypu> jet87: I suppose it could be bad....I've never had a bad CD that worked at all, though, and it works just fine other than that.  I am currently talking to you while running under its live mode.
[06:38] <bimberi> Necrosan_: nautilus
[06:38] <Snake> Necrosan_: K3B
[06:38] <distanceisdeath> what is the difference between dapper and badger?
[06:39] <stevekl> I had no idea dapper was released
[06:39] <nbx909> !dapper
[06:39] <ubotu> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[06:39] <titanium_platypu> is there a test I can run on it without rebooting?
[06:39] <klormexor> dr_willis: thanks unrar worked
[06:39] <bimberi> distanceisdeath: 7.5 months of hard work
[06:39] <Gretyl> !badger
[06:39] <ubotu> Gretyl: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:39] <r0xoR> stevekl, heheh yup well it is
[06:39] <lightdifference> Crypt: Would you happen to have heard of Macsuburb?
[06:39] <distanceisdeath> but whats the update gonna do for me?
[06:39] <Paradoxx> !wifi
[06:39] <ubotu> somebody said wifi was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:39] <nbx909> !tell distanceisdeath about dapper
[06:39] <r0xoR> stevekl, today in fact... only a few hours ago
[06:39] <jet87> there's a cd check on the boot menu.  i tried it, but it didn't seem to work for me
[06:39] <Paradoxx> Need assistance getting my wifi (Centrino) laptop up
[06:39] <freakabcd> crimsun, err.. i don;t see anything resembling a diff/delta plan for deb distro under Specifications on LP
[06:39] <Frem> snoops, googling around, it looks like this only affects people who have added a hard drive after market, not folks with out-of-the-box machines. Thus, these people know what they are doing anyway. I'm not saying it's not a problem, I'm just saying that imho this bug's audiance is not your avg grandma.
[06:39] <bimberi> distanceisdeath: make you feel up-to-date
[06:39] <dmb062082> is there a simple command to update from breezy to the latest version?
[06:39] <titanium_platypu> hrm....maybe I'll just try downloading another, and see what happens.
[06:39] <nbx909> !tell Paradoxx about wifi
[06:39] <Vaske_Car> !tell Vaske_Car about refresh rate
[06:40] <Crypt> hey guys.. I've had trouble getting my IPWireless 3G modem on Ubuntu6.06. It doesnt assign the modem it's ports like it used to in 5.10. Anyone know how to get it going?
[06:40] <nbx909> !tell Vaske_Car about refreshrate
[06:40] <Vaske_Car> crimsun, it wont tell me :)
[06:40] <nbx909> !tell Vaske_Car about reconfigurex
[06:40] <OrTigaS> no one???
[06:40] <Paradoxx> nbx909: i followed that guide and the tutorial, and i can't get it to compile
[06:40] <Snake> Someone PLESAEEE help.
[06:40] <farous> oo they removed the page that i had bookmarked. seems documentation are being updated penguinwhoflew
[06:40] <nbx909> Snake, what is your problem?
[06:40] <spine> does glx run with dual monitor setups? anyone plz
[06:40] <Snake> When I boot it gets stuck on "decomressing kernal" (I did a server install)...Help?
[06:40] <spine> ati
[06:40] <crimsun> freakabcd: search -devel archives for binary diff
[06:40] <TokenBad> in evolution is there a way to save all the settings so can install dapper?
[06:40] <jet87> OrTigaS: whats the problem?
[06:40] <Vaske_Car> nbx909, thanks, let me try
[06:41] <freakabcd> crimsun, ok will try that now
[06:41] <stevekl> r0xoR: oh ok...I was worried that it came out like 4 days ago, and I didn't notice that #ubuntu+1 was gone
[06:41] <nbx909> !tell snake about glx
[06:41] <Snake> nbx909: I didnt get anything..
[06:41] <nbx909> !tell snake about ati
[06:41] <Crypt> IPWireless 3G USB modem support is broken in 6.06. Anyone know how to get it going?
[06:41] <jrattner1> If my wireless craps out ill be so pissed
[06:41] <Snake> nbx909: I think you want spine dude..
[06:41] <farous> it si xgl nbx909
[06:41] <nbx909> woops
[06:41] <nbx909> lol
[06:41] <Snake> :)
[06:42] <nbx909> Snake, sorry
[06:42] <Snake> np
[06:42] <nbx909> !tell spine about ati
[06:42] <FirstLite> myleftfoot: Heh, the wiki article seems to be sort of insecure -- they tell you to get the key ID by running GPG on the .gpg file you just downloaded.  But someone could make up a .gpg file using another key . . .
[06:42] <Snake> When I boot it gets stuck on "decomressing kernal" (I did a server install)...Help?
[06:42] <axisys> anyone else having issue with gnomebaker on dapper?
[06:42] <crimsun> TaTonka: try ``sudo modprobe snd-cs4236''
[06:42] <OrTigaS> hi! i just install my modem driver PCI intel536ep and now its dialing... but here's my problem after the modem dial and sounds finished and supposed to be connected this is the message i got "waiting for prompt" then dial again connecting connecting connecting.......n. then disconnected... any idea here??
[06:42] <nbx909> !tell Snake about md5
[06:42] <jrattner1> What directories do you suggest i "save" if im doing a fresh install
[06:42] <varsendaggr> hey where can i get the dapper isos?
[06:42] <Snake> nbx909: I know about md5, all the data verified, i burned at 2x. the disk is fine
[06:42] <TaTonka> kk 1 sec
[06:42] <orbin> OrTigaS: is this dialup?
[06:42] <myleftfoot> FirstLite: true, and still there is no official page that says... this is our official key and fingerprint
[06:42] <OrTigaS> orbin:  yes
[06:43] <nbx909> Snake, rofl i burned it at 2x for my server today as well
[06:43] <orbin> OrTigaS: how did you config the isp settings?
[06:43] <axisys> varsendaggr: check the topic of the chnl
[06:43] <OrTigaS> i just enter the username and password
[06:43] <Snake> perhaps I should reinstall
[06:43] <Snake> this sucks
[06:43] <FirstLite> Snake: I had to add ide=nodma as a boot option to one of my old systems to get Dapper to boot.  Might be worth a try . . .
[06:43] <stevekl> Yeah, about that...is the dapper instal CD graphical without any option of running it in the console mode like breezy?
[06:43] <orbin> OrTigaS: where?  in networking?  try using gnome-ppp
[06:43] <OrTigaS> is different when you use in linux?
[06:43] <spine> external apgart thats it
[06:43] <Snake> FirstLite: how do I do that?
[06:43] <nbx909> !tell Snake about forums
[06:43] <spine> external apgart thats it
[06:43] <TaTonka> crimsum: modprobe - command not found
[06:44] <kspath> jrattner1: do will not want your home directory or /etc because those contain your configurations. perhaps only save /var with its variable information
[06:44] <OrTigaS> i use gnome-ppp
[06:44] <crimsun> TaTonka: erm...this is a Ubuntu system?
[06:44] <TaTonka> yeap
[06:44] <kspath> jrattner1: you will not want your home directory or /etc because those contain your configurations. perhaps only save /var with its variable information
[06:44] <jet87> ...
[06:44] <Crypt> my IPWireless 3G USB modem doesnt work in dapper. Anyone know how to get it going?
[06:44] <TaTonka> nm, spelt it wreong
[06:44] <OrTigaS> hi! i just install my modem driver PCI intel536ep and now its dialing... but here's my problem after the modem dial and sounds finished and supposed to be connected this is the message i got "waiting for prompt" then dial again connecting connecting connecting.......n. then disconnected... any idea here?? using gnome-ppp
[06:44] <TaTonka> left e out
[06:44] <Snake> FirstLite: ????
[06:44] <FirstLite> Snake: Umm . . . I think you have to hit one of the F-keys (F5?  F6?) at the boot menu.  Then you get a little command line where you can type ide=nodma
[06:44] <Snake> oh ok
[06:44] <Snake> ill try that
[06:44] <TaTonka> ok crimsum, nothing was returned
[06:45] <Vaske_Car> how to restart X?
[06:45] <Vaske_Car> fro shell
[06:45] <Vaske_Car> from*
[06:45] <distanceisdeath> It says I dont have permission to copy a file to a directory? how can i do it
[06:45] <distanceisdeath> ?
[06:45] <freakabcd> crimsun, ok found it: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-May/017602.html
[06:45] <lightdifference> does ubuntu use the grub loader?
[06:45] <freakabcd> going to read that thread thoroughly now
[06:45] <jet87> distanceisdeath: sudo in the terminal
[06:45] <Crypt> lightdifference: it does
[06:45] <Frem> lightdifference, yes
[06:45] <distanceisdeath> jet, what?
[06:45] <Kwek> have anybody successfully installed ubuntu+dual boot without reformatting here?
[06:45] <distanceisdeath> "sudo...."
[06:45] <bimberi> !restartx
[06:45] <ubotu> Logging out will not restart your X server. Ctrl+Alt+Backspace will restart it WITHOUT WARNING. You could also type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" (or "[...]  kdm restart") from a text-mode console.
[06:45] <Frem> Kwek, yes.
[06:46] <jet87> Kwek, I have
[06:46] <nbx909> !tell Kwek about dualboot
[06:46] <crimsun> TaTonka: great. What's the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards''?
[06:46] <TokenBad> everytime I try to run the update manager I get seg fault and it closes
[06:46] <lightdifference> Crypt: have you heard of macsuburb? I thought I saw your name around there somewhere.
[06:46] <kspath> jrattner1: that was a sarcastic hint.  /etc and your home directory are the most important   perhaps your x config if you did anything interesting
[06:46] <Kwek> just to confirm one last time
[06:46] <jet87> distanceisdeath: are you trying to do it in nautilus?
[06:46] <distanceisdeath> not sure
[06:46] <axisys> need gnomebaker help
[06:46] <Frem> Kwek, I just ran defrag in XP, and it resized my partition without any data loss or reformatting.
[06:46] <Vaske_Car> !tell Vaske_Car about restart x
[06:46] <Kwek> i only have one partition C: on windows right now
[06:46] <Crypt> lightdifference: not me. :)
[06:46] <lightdifference> oh.
[06:46] <lightdifference> Someone else, sorry.
[06:46] <changerO1Sea> what does /dev/wacom?
[06:46] <axisys> i get this error http://pastebin.com/752583
[06:46] <nbx909> !tekk Vaske_Car about restartx
[06:46] <Kwek> ubuntu will partition it for me without any loss of data?
[06:46] <TaTonka> crimsum, its alot about cs4235
[06:46] <changerO1Sea> what is /dev/wacom?*
[06:47] <jrattner1> kspath, if I save my home directory, should I just take files from it or replace my entire home directory on dapper with the previous?
[06:47] <Shaezsche> trying to get a winmodem working under ubuntu, i know this number is relevant to my modem 14f12bfa:0:90000. can you help me? i cannot seem to correlate it with any lists at linuxant.com
[06:47] <nbx909> !tell Vaske_Car about restartx
[06:47] <Vaske_Car> it does not know
[06:47] <Frem> Kwek, *ran defrag before starting, then during install...
[06:47] <NickGarvey> Kwek: there is always a change of data loss, back up important information before partitioning
[06:47] <Crypt> my IPWireless 3G USB modem doesnt work in dapper. ports are all random. Anyone know how to get it going?
[06:47] <crimsun> TaTonka: beautiful. In the output from ``amixer'', do you see something called 'DSP'?
[06:47] <NickGarvey> Kwek: although I have never had any data loss
[06:47] <FirstLite> Snake: I've sort of forgotten the exact keystrokes to get at the kernel boot options when you boot the CD.  Maybe someone who's installed Dapper from scratch recently can help?
[06:47] <Snake> FirstLite: will I need to do this each time??
[06:47] <nbx909> Vaske_Car, ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:47] <Kwek> okay thanks nick
[06:47] <Kwek> so i run defrag first?
[06:47] <FirstLite> Snake: No, you can add it to your grub (bootloader) config if it works.
[06:47] <jet87> distanceisdeath: where are you trying to move a file to?
[06:48] <distanceisdeath> the sources.list directory
[06:48] <distanceisdeath> etc/apt/
[06:48] <Shaezsche> trying to get a winmodem working under ubuntu, i know this number is relevant to my modem 14f12bfa:0:90000. can you help me? i cannot seem to correlate it with any lists at linuxant.com
[06:48] <nbx909> ubotu, died :o
[06:48] <Kwek> so i run defrag, boot livecd, install and im done?
[06:48] <Shaezsche> ubuntu doesnt even recognize it
[06:48] <nbx909> !reconfigurex
[06:48] <_Grout> lol finally
[06:48] <zOap> I'm having problems with that the islsm modules(islsm_device, islsm, islsm_pci)(prism) keeps loading. It screws up my ndiswrapper. How can I prevent them from loading?
[06:49] <ubotu> nbx909: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:49] <TaTonka> 1 sec crimsum, there is alot of return
[06:49] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nbx909
[06:49] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, run the command         sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:49] <Snake> FirstLite: I got it installed any everything already, it just freezes where it says "Uncompressing Linux....Okay boot the kernal"
[06:49] <jet87> distanceisdeath: "sudo mv ~/filewhatever /etc/apt/filewhatever"
[06:49] <nomin> LTS is the official desktop version also isn't it?
[06:49] <jet87> filewhatever being the name of the file
[06:49] <distanceisdeath> okay thanks
[06:49] <Crypt> does anyone know how I can get my usb modem to go on /dev/USBtty0 every time i boot.. it goes on some random port
[06:49] <nbx909> nomin, yes
[06:49] <Kwek> so i run defrag, boot livecd, install and im done?
[06:49] <nomin> awesome
[06:49] <jet87> that only works if the file is in your home directory
[06:49] <dmb062082> will upgrading to ubuntu 6.06 install the misisng files that the breezy badger install cd failed to install?
[06:49] <jet87> probably
[06:49] <dmb062082> thanks
[06:49] <Frem> Kwek, no. you backup, defrag, boot cd, install...
[06:50] <FirstLite> Snake: Oh, you already got it installed the first time, but it won't boot up again?
[06:50] <nomin> argh, freevo isn't in the package list
[06:50] <Snake> FirstLite: correct, when I restarted is when it hangs now
[06:50] <zOap> does someone know how I prevent kernel drivers to load? isn't there some sort of blacklist?
[06:50] <TaTonka> ok crimsum, i see DSP
[06:51] <crimsun> TaTonka: brilliant, what's the output from: amixer get 'DSP' |egrep '(off|on)'
[06:51] <Snake> FirstLite: any other ideas?
[06:51] <FirstLite> Snake: Hmm.  It might help to turn off the "quiet boot" options, whatever they're called. Maybe it will give you a more useful error message then.
[06:51] <Crypt> IPWireless 3G USB modem with Dapper. Anyone know how???
[06:51] <Snake> How?
[06:51] <bimberi> zOap: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:52] <bimberi> z0ap: (in dapper)
[06:52] <FirstLite> Snake: You can' do this by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst and then running grub-install /dev/hda (or whatever drive it's on)
[06:52] <jrattner1> kspath, if I save my home directory, should I just take files from it or replace my entire home directory on dapper with the previous?
[06:52] <distanceisdeath> hopefully dapper will install now
[06:52] <TaTonka> crimsum - front left: off .....front right: 0ff
[06:52] <Snake> FirstLite: how do you want me to do that if I cant get to system files?? lol
[06:52] <kspath> jrattner1: your choice
[06:52] <distanceisdeath> is the interface different than 5.10? like look different? the toolbars and stuff?
[06:53] <Shaezsche> how does ect3 differ from fat32? any reason to choose one for the new dapper release?
[06:53] <zOap> bimberi, ok. So if I was to blacklist islsm(all) should I just type islsm in  the blacklist file? or is it some sort of a command?
[06:53] <crimsun> TaTonka: cool. Type: amixer set 'DSP' on && amixer set 'DSP' 80%
[06:53] <kspath> jrattner1: I most often only copy things back into my new installs if needed
[06:53] <FirstLite> Snake: You can boot using the install CD again, mount the hard drive, and edit stuff.
[06:53] <Crypt> IPWireless 3G USB modem with Dapper. Anyone know how???
[06:53] <bimberi> zOap: have a look in the file - you just list it (as i understand id)
[06:53] <distanceisdeath> "cupsys" failed what does that mean?
[06:53] <bimberi> *it
[06:53] <zOap> bimberi, ok, thanks
[06:53] <Snake> FirstLite: I dont have the live CD, just the server install one (im trying to set up a home music server)
[06:54] <TaTonka> ok crimsum, i did that
[06:54] <nbx909> !cups
[06:54] <ubotu> cups is The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/
[06:54] <crimsun> TaTonka: ok, anything called 'Master' or 'PCM' ?
[06:54] <Snake> FirstLite: also its a rather old machine, only 200 mhz, so gnome really isnt going to run on it :)
[06:54] <nbx909> !tell distanceisdeath about cups
[06:54] <TaTonka> from what
[06:54] <nomin> how come bittorrent is different on ubuntu breezy?  On mandriva I get the same gui as bittorrent on windows?
[06:54] <FirstLite> Snake: The install CD, IIRC, has some sort of "rescue" mode.  I forget how to use it, though . . .
[06:54] <crimsun> TaTonka: ``amixer''
[06:54] <distanceisdeath> is it for printing only?
[06:54] <TaTonka> 1 sec
[06:54] <Snake> FirstLite: ah that it does, ill check that out
[06:55] <TokenBad> ok can anyone tell me why when I try to use the update manager I get Segmentation fault?  I can't use apt-get or anything..get same error
[06:55] <bimberi> distanceisdeath: yes
[06:55] <distanceisdeath> okay
[06:55] <distanceisdeath> thanks, so really  i dont need it unless i print?
[06:55] <nbx909> only need it if you need to print
[06:55] <TaTonka> crimsum, master digital, master mono, and PCM
[06:55] <distanceisdeath> okay
[06:55] <distanceisdeath> and also
[06:55] <distanceisdeath> im doing it on the command line
[06:55] <penguinwhoflew> um
[06:56] <crimsun> TaTonka: ok, now: amixer set 'PCM' on && amixer set 'PCM' 80%
[06:56] <penguinwhoflew> i think i enabled xgl
[06:56] <distanceisdeath> it says "Setting up kubuntu-desktop (0.85) ...
[06:56] <distanceisdeath> Setting up ubuntu-desktop (0.119) ...
[06:56] <distanceisdeath> " and it gives me control of the command line
[06:56] <penguinwhoflew> but nothing is nifty
[06:56] <distanceisdeath> di it install?
[06:56] <distanceisdeath> did*
[06:56] <penguinwhoflew> it's just slow as hell dragging things around the screen
[06:56] <nbx909> distanceisdeath, did ubuntu finish installing it?
[06:56] <bimberi> distanceisdeath: yep
[06:56] <distanceisdeath> okay
[06:56] <crimsun> penguinwhoflew: yeah, welcome to Xgl.
[06:56] <distanceisdeath> so how do i know if dapper installed correctly?
[06:56] <protocol1> ff 1.5
[06:56] <farous> lol  penguinwhoflew mine was not tht bad but i did not like it either. xgl is still alpha too
[06:57] <penguinwhoflew> crimsun: so. where's the 3d cube...?
[06:57] <nbx909> penguinwhoflew, it's like that on slow machines
[06:57] <TokenBad> please anyone know how to fix that? I can't upgrade to dapper till I fix this
[06:57] <penguinwhoflew> nbx909: don't talk about my baby like that
[06:57] <TaTonka> kk i did it crimcum
[06:57] <crimsun> penguinwhoflew: did you configure it? I don't use Xgl, because it's ridiculously slow on my hardware.
[06:57] <nbx909> TokenBad, what are the errors?
[06:57] <TaTonka> crimsum*
[06:57] <FirstLite> Snake: The ide=nodma thing was needed for me to boot the CD, not the fresh install, so it's probably not your problem.  But mine was an old system, too.  Good luck . . .
[06:57] <bimberi> distanceisdeath: by rebooting
[06:57] <TokenBad> ok can anyone tell me why when I try to use the update manager I get Segmentation fault?  I can't use apt-get or anything..get same error
[06:57] <penguinwhoflew> crimsun: uh, how?
[06:57] <crimsun> TaTonka: ok, now do you get sound from: ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''?
[06:57] <Snake> FirstLite: thats fine, i think im just going to reinstall
[06:57] <distanceisdeath> okay, ill be right back. then hopefully
[06:57] <TokenBad> nbx909, that the errors
[06:57] <Snake> FirstLite: thanks tho man :)
[06:57] <crimsun> penguinwhoflew: did you follow the Xgl guide{,s}?
[06:57] <farous> penguinwhoflew: i think ctrl alt left or right arrow
[06:57] <penguinwhoflew> errr
[06:58] <nbx909> !tell TokenBad about forum
[06:58] <penguinwhoflew> aw man
[06:58] <nomin> the dapper torrent is coming in a full speed, I'm not even uploading to anyone yet, must be great seeds out there.
[06:58] <penguinwhoflew> i don't think 3d got enabled right
[06:58] <DrewMarin> i just got gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly  how do I fix this
[06:58] <FirstLite> Snake: No problem
[06:58] <nbx909> nomin, aka me
[06:58] <nbx909> lol
[06:58] <penguinwhoflew> cause it kinda looks like it's revolving, only i can see but 2 dimensions of it
[06:58] <TokenBad> nbx909, so no idea?
[06:58] <penguinwhoflew> crimsun: where at?
[06:58] <nosklo> How much free space one needs to have in disk to upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[06:58] <farous> penguinwhoflew: type in a term fglrxinfo
[06:58] <penguinwhoflew> hahaha
[06:58] <crimsun> DrewMarin: come again?
[06:58] <nbx909> TokenBad, no idea at all
[06:58] <crimsun> penguinwhoflew: #ubuntu-xgl?
[06:58] <TokenBad> shoot
[06:59] <nbx909> !tell nosklo about upgrading
[06:59] <DrewMarin> Im trying to get mp3 playback and on the wiki is says go into your favorite package manager and install this package gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[06:59] <Kwek> will ubuntu format anything when partitioning?
[06:59] <DrewMarin> and I did which is apt-get
[06:59] <nbx909> Kwek, yes
[06:59] <penguinwhoflew> farous: it says mesa stuff
[06:59] <DrewMarin> and terminal says invalid operation
[06:59] <kspath> distranceisdeath: Are you a processor designer or supply sargent or ambulance driver?
[06:59] <Kwek> i only have one partition, so will it format the whole partition?
[06:59] <farous> did you install the linux-restricted-modules package
[06:59] <nbx909> !tell DrewMarin about mp3
[06:59] <crimsun> DrewMarin: ``sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly''
[06:59] <Auckland_Pig> DrewMarin: try synaptic package manager its very easy
[07:00] <klormexor> farous: how can you do an executable command within a folder like /xxx/sss/ee/ and the exe is fglrxinfo?
[07:00] <farous> penguinwhoflew: and after doing that you need to restart gdm. best way is to reboot for it to work
[07:00] <nosklo> nbx909, that does not have the answer
[07:00] <Kwek> i only have one partition, so will it format the whole partition?
[07:00] <klormexor> farous: do u type everything /xxx/sss/ee/./fglrxinfo?
[07:00] <DrewMarin> couldnt find it in synapatic
[07:00] <nosklo> nbx909, I've already read it
[07:00] <cello_rasp> guys why does shift+backspace kill the gnome session and how can i stop this from doing so? there are no settings in keyboard shortcuts :(
[07:00] <penguinwhoflew> farous: yeah...
[07:00] <nbx909> nosklo, it should
[07:00] <farous> klormexor: can you repeat that again
[07:00] <penguinwhoflew> farous: and i rebooted
[07:00] <penguinwhoflew> meh
[07:00] <nosklo> i need to know space requirements to upgrade
[07:00] <jet87> Kwek: you want to use the manual option on the page, not the one about using your whole harddrive
[07:00] <penguinwhoflew> f glx
[07:00] <Auckland_Pig> DrewMarin: enable universe and multiverse repositories
[07:00] <docgnome> does anyone know of a program that will let me set a different background images on each desktop?
[07:00] <TaTonka> crimsum, i didnt hear nething, but i think its the headphones i was using, but vomume control now reconizes my soundcard
[07:00] <nbx909> cello_rasp, that is a defult failsafe built into xorg
[07:01] <Kwek> so it will just seperate my partition and it wont be formatted?
[07:01] <DrewMarin> i did enable them
[07:01] <klormexor> farous:  i.e. ./fglrxinfo is within another folder, i cant recall. how can you run that directly from root/
[07:01] <nbx909> DrewMarin, sudo apt-get update
[07:01] <jet87> lemme check something Kwek
[07:01] <nbx909> DrewMarin, then go
[07:01] <DrewMarin> it says no candidate release blah blah blah
[07:01] <Kwek> k
[07:01] <klormexor> farous:  instead of climbing within folder
[07:01] <crimsun> TaTonka: have you tried unmuting and increasing 'Master Digital'?
[07:01] <bbuda> hey all, i'm running the livecd and i don't have a menu bar or taskbar - any ideas?
[07:01] <cello_rasp> nbx989: something that kills the session shoudld be a 3 finger shortcult. imagine if you could hit ctrl+alt+delete as easily!
[07:01] <gilster> will someone please help me with a toshiba built in card reader....
[07:01] <farous> klormexor: you can go to the folder " if that what you wana do" and type ./foo wher foo is the program name
[07:01] <nbx909> !tell DrewMarin about sources
[07:01] <TaTonka> 1 sec
[07:02] <farous> or just /folder/foo foo is program name
[07:02] <penguinwhoflew> so is there any way to make a session in ubuntu that runs blackbox?
[07:02] <DrewMarin> I hate sources I cant ever get anything to work from them
[07:02] <cello_rasp> penguinwhoflew: with a bit of messing around, yes!
[07:02] <nbx909> penguinwhoflew, yes at the gdm select blackbox
[07:02] <penguinwhoflew> cello_rasp: sweet!
[07:02] <jet87> Kwek: are you on the screen where it says "Prepare Disk Space"?
[07:02] <TaTonka> I HEARD IT
[07:02] <TaTonka> !!
[07:02] <ubotu> TaTonka: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:02] <TaTonka> :D
[07:02] <penguinwhoflew> nbx909: the what? when? where?
[07:02] <cello_rasp> penguinwhoflew: i believe nubuntu uses blackbox
[07:02] <Kwek> no, im not installing yet
[07:02] <Kwek> however i need some info b4 i proceed
[07:02] <nbx909> penguinwhoflew, after doing sudo apt-get install blackbox
[07:03] <TaTonka> omg crimsum, u r a GENIOUS
[07:03] <penguinwhoflew> nbx909: sweet.
[07:03] <penguinwhoflew> brb
[07:03] <Kwek> and my filesystem if ntfs btw
[07:03] <Kwek> is*
[07:03] <ajax4> !nvidia
[07:03] <jet87> Kwek: when you get to this screen ( http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=659&slide=9 ) you want to choose the manual option
[07:03] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:03] <crimsun> TaTonka: ``echo snd-cs4236 |sudo tee -a /etc/modules''
[07:03] <distanceisdeath> okay, i think i installed dapper correctly, how do i know for sure?
[07:03] <titanium_platypu> well, I'm going to have to go back to Breezy Badger temporarily
[07:03] <TokenBad> anyone else have any idea on how to fix that Segmentation fault everytime try to use apt-get or upgrade manager...I have rebooted and all to try and fix it
[07:03] <kspath> distanceisdeath: Are you a processor designer or supply sargent or ambulance driver?
[07:03] <Kwek> k
[07:03] <distanceisdeath> both.
[07:04] <titanium_platypu> so that I can get some Myth recordings okay while I'm on vacation
[07:04] <TaTonka> crinsun, what u sending me that
[07:04] <distanceisdeath> i seriously see no difference
[07:04] <protocol2_> !ff1.5
[07:04] <titanium_platypu> since Dapper won't install
[07:04] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:04] <titanium_platypu> x_x
[07:04] <nbx909> distanceisdeath, does it work?
[07:04] <lastnode> distanceisdeath, well if everything is working, i tshould be
[07:04] <nbx909> distanceisdeath, lol
[07:04] <klormexor> farous: for i.e would i type /usr/X11R6/bin/fglrxinfo  is that the correct way to do it
[07:04] <Kwek> my harddrive is ntfs, will it affect the installation in anyway?
[07:04] <lasindi> Hi all, if I play an OpenGL game, like ppracer, I notice that the gnome screensaver gets started after 5 minutes even though I've been punching keys the whole time. Why is this?
[07:04] <distanceisdeath> everything appears to be the same as breezy
[07:04] <nbx909> distanceisdeath, terminal uname -r
[07:04] <bimberi> distanceisdeath: what does 'lsb_release -a" (in a terminal) say?
[07:04] <TaTonka> hey crimsun, why u send me that
[07:04] <jet87> resizing shouldn't cause problems, its always worked for me at the very least
[07:04] <ajax4> !xgl
[07:04] <ubotu> hmm... xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[07:04] <Kwek> because: Note: most current Linux distributions, including Ubuntu, do not support write-access to NTFS partitions; only read access is supported. Write-access is available through commercial packages or in some experimental open-source packages which may be risky to use. See NTFSReadWrite for more info.
[07:05] <Kwek> Although the Ubuntu installer does now include support for resizing NTFS partitions, it is not 100% effective. If you try the above procedure and have no luck, try the following alternative method:
[07:05] <distanceisdeath> woohoo dapper
[07:05] <distanceisdeath> thanks guys
[07:05] <kspath> distanceisdeath: I noticed some fonts were different after update
[07:05] <Kwek> okay thanks
[07:05] <Kwek> i will try it
[07:05] <distanceisdeath> i just checked it in the terminal
[07:05] <jet87> Kwek: you seem to have the info you need
[07:05] <Kwek> well
[07:05] <jet87> just make sure you have a swap partition
[07:05] <Kwek> it doesnt clearly explain about the manual
[07:05] <distanceisdeath> the start up is quicker than crap\
[07:05] <Kwek> so manual edit will not touch my windows in any way?
[07:06] <Koskun> quick question for anyone, does ubuntu have anything like widgets?
[07:06] <klormexor> farous: it is so, i just checked :P
[07:06] <TaTonka> u still there crimsun?
[07:06] <asc> Koskun: gdesklets are for gnome.  Not sure what KDE does.
[07:06] <distanceisdeath> are we allowed to talk about emulation?
[07:06] <Kwek> it doesnt clearly explain about the manual
[07:06] <Kwek> so manual edit will not touch my windows in any way?
[07:06] <jet87> the manual edit is done by you, you have to resize the ntfs partition, taking off how many GB you want for ubuntu. the screen will show unallocated space and you'll need to select that and choose new partition
[07:07] <bbuda> anyone?  i have no menu or task bar running the ubuntu 6.06 livecd - everything else appears to be functional however (firefox, openoffice work fine if i manually run them from a terminal)
[07:07] <Kwek> ic
[07:07] <Kwek> thanks alot
[07:07] <Kwek> im now at ease
[07:09] <jet87> as long as you're careful everything is good
[07:09] <bk__> what do you guys think is the best multimedia player out there for Linux?  Totem?  VLC?  MPlayer?  Which one can play the most media files?
[07:09] <asc> mpalyer's good if you compile it yourself and don't use the GUI
[07:09] <bimberi> bbuda: does typing 'gnome-panel' say/do anything"
[07:09] <asc> *mplayer
[07:09] <asc> VLC doesn't do WMV3 last Ic hecked
[07:09] <Kwek> so my ram is 1gb swap 1gb?
[07:10] <dick-richardson> anyone notice an 'http cache cleaner' that pops up in the window list?
[07:10] <TokenBad> anyone else have any idea on how to fix that Segmentation fault everytime try to use apt-get or upgrade manager...I have rebooted and all to try and fix it
[07:10] <bk__> asc, do you know if mplayer can play .wmv files?
[07:10] <bbuda> bimberi: that got it - thanks.  any idea why it wouldn't come up at startup?
[07:10] <mustard5> TokenBad: I might have an idea
[07:10] <Kwek> so my ram is 1gb swap 1gb?
[07:10] <bimberi> Kwek: that's what i'd go with if i had 1Gb RAM
[07:10] <Kwek> okay thx
[07:10] <TokenBad> mustard5, yes..please?
[07:10] <rohan> can someone please provide a ubuntu rc -> final desktop cd .xdelta ?
[07:10] <Kwek> hey
[07:11] <asc> bk: yes, it can.  However, to be able to play all of them you have to compile it yourself and include the optional codecs.
[07:11] <Polygon89> hello, i just reinstalled ubuntu just now, and for some reason every time i reinstall ubuntu, it takes a day or so for it to realize that it has a lot of updates for it, is there anyway i can change this?
[07:11] <Kwek> the tutorial says 10gb for install
[07:11] <Kwek> is it true?
[07:11] <Kwek> #
[07:11] <Kwek> Create a partition for your Ubuntu installation, at least 10 GB.
[07:11] <Koskun> Umm, I have to get a codec to play mp3's?
[07:11] <Kwek> is this true?
[07:11] <mustard5> TokenBad: did it seem to just start randomly?
[07:11] <TokenBad> yes
[07:11] <TokenBad> like just today..
[07:11] <bimberi> bbuda: sorry, none - you could look for errors in the logs (/var/log)
[07:11] <mustard5> TokenBad: I'm just trying to recall which files I deleted
[07:11] <no0ke> what's the problem when i play music, it sounds like im fast-forwarding it, sounds like a cartoon?
[07:11] <Kwek>  Create a partition for your Ubuntu installation, at least 10 GB. - is this true?
[07:11] <mustard5> TokenBad: there are a couple of bin files /var/cache/apt/ I think
[07:12] <lightsaber> I have a drive that I was using as my main hd under the lvm... I installed dapper on another drive but I want to access the data on the old drive using an external usb... anyone know how to mount the lvm so it's readable?
[07:12] <protocol2_> where is the default firefox directory in dapper?
[07:12] <bimberi> Kwek: breezy can feasibily run in <2, dapper wouldn't be much different
[07:12] <mustard5> TokenBad: I would have to check them out again before I was sure
[07:12] <protocol2_> Im trying to update my browserr
[07:12] <Kwek> oaky thx
[07:12] <Kwek> i will put 5gb then
[07:12] <mustard5> TokenBad: and I'm on Puppy linux atm..not ubuntu
[07:12] <MTecknology> Is anybody else able to connect to MSN messenger through a hotmail account?
[07:12] <bk__> Kwek, I reserved 13 GB for Breezy Badger and when I run the command "df", I only see 4 GB used up.
[07:12] <MTecknology> not able*
[07:12] <TokenBad> pkgcache.bin?
[07:12] <Polygon89> hello, i just reinstalled ubuntu just now, and for some reason every time i reinstall ubuntu, it takes a day or so for it to realize that it has a lot of updates for it, is there anyway i can change this? (5.10, wanting to upgrate to dapper)
[07:12] <TaTonka> crimsun
[07:12] <mustard5> TokenBad: there should be two files?
[07:12] <TokenBad> srcpkgcache.bin?
[07:13] <mustard5> TokenBad: yeah..just move them if you want to be cautious
[07:13] <MTecknology> Polygon89, are you updating the repos in Synaptic?
[07:13] <mustard5> TokenBad: move them out of that directory
[07:13] <Polygon89> i have all of them checked (the offical ones and multi/universe) checked
[07:14] <Polygon89> and when i click reload it still says my system is up to daye
[07:14] <Polygon89> **date
[07:14] <TokenBad> mustard5, trying now
[07:14] <mustard5> TokenBad: at least if you just move them you can move them back ;)
[07:14] <MTecknology> Polygon89, try update from CL
[07:14] <mustard5> TokenBad: that fixed a seg faulting error I had in the past
[07:14] <TaTonka> hey clothej
[07:14] <dunnix> whats the command to turn into root?
[07:14] <Polygon89> sudo apt-get update right?
[07:14] <TokenBad> mustard5, it worked...thanks alot!!!
[07:15] <mjb> hey Does eclipse perform better with sun's java as opposed to gjc?
[07:15] <r0xoR> dunnix, sudo -s
[07:15] <mustard5> TokenBad: I'm glad :)
[07:15] <TaTonka> what is the pont in the command: echo snd-cs4235 |sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[07:15] <MTecknology> Polygon89, yep
[07:15] <r0xoR> sun's java performs well? heheh
[07:15] <mustard5> TokenBad: took me ages to find that solution when I had it..and I had already reinstalled when I found it
[07:15] <cef> r0xoR, dunnix: NO. It's 'sudo -i' if you want a shell.. don't use -s
[07:15] <mjb> relatively speaking of course...
[07:16] <protocol2_> where is the default firefox directory in dapper?
[07:16] <lightsaber> java 5 is not bad at all
[07:16] <Polygon89> after that command, it says it downloaded the lists for all of them (including multi/universe) and then going back to update-manager, it still says my system is up to date
[07:16] <protocol2_> Im trying to update my browserr
[07:16] <TaTonka> hey can some1 explain something to me
[07:16] <MTecknology> Polygon89, sorry, idk then
[07:16] <Polygon89> gah
[07:16] <blakcheez> i need help with locales
[07:16] <Verithrax> How do I enable multiverse repositories in Dapper?
[07:16] <crimsun> TaTonka: it loads the sound driver on boot so you don't have to.
[07:16] <Polygon89> i want to update today, but i need ubuntu to update first =P
[07:17] <Verithrax> They're not in the standard list of repos that comes with Synaptic.
[07:17] <MTecknology> Anybody that works with the marketing for Ubuntu, can you check this out? http://www.ubuntupeople.com/file/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1033#1033
[07:17] <exclipy> cef: what's wrong with sudo -s?
[07:17] <Polygon89> upgrade to dapper**. oh well thanks for your help anyway
[07:17] <TaTonka> kk, but i have me cs4236, i replaced it with cs4235
[07:17] <TaTonka> gave*
[07:17] <blakcheez> i need help with locales
[07:17] <blakcheez> please
[07:17] <corona> hello looking for assistance with location of GTK
[07:17] <RobNyc> ubuntu keeps pissing me off with the time .. timezone is correct everytime i reboot a later time is shown
[07:17] <bimberi> ubotu tell Verithrax about multiverse
[07:17] <dunnix> anyone know what happend to celestia?
[07:17] <dunnix> it wont let me get the package anymore
[07:17] <blakcheez> need help with locales
[07:17] <r0xoR> cef, i beleive you mean *environment* ? as opposed to "shell" ?
[07:18] <blakcheez> and please don't do tell bot on me
[07:18] <blakcheez> it doesn't work
[07:18] <lightsaber> so does anyone know about mounting an lvm from a usb external drive?
[07:18] <TaTonka> did i do right crimsun?
[07:18] <cef> r0xoR: yes correct
[07:18] <Kwek> i can install from livcd right?
[07:18] <bimberi> Kwek: dapper livecd  yes
[07:18] <dunnix> whats better xchat or mozilla chat?
[07:18] <Kwek> k thx
[07:18] <blakcheez> need help with locales
[07:19] <bimberi> !tell blakcheez to be less vague
[07:19] <corona> need help with building software-gtk linking errors
[07:19] <Frem> blakcheez, all our locales need help
[07:19] <vidalito> who are happy with the new Dapper Drake Arrival?
[07:19] <dsas> dunnix: Until you try both you won't know. Personally I prefer xchat-gnome
[07:19] <bimberi> vidalito: the developers
[07:19] <DBO> I are happy
[07:19] <vidalito> :D
[07:19] <cowbud> where is the firmware directory?
[07:20] <Frem> blakcheez, many of our locales are at war with other locales
[07:20] <crimsun> TaTonka: err...  cat /proc/asound/modules
[07:20] <bimberi> vidalito: ... who get to sleep
[07:20] <cowbud> ahh /lib/firmware
[07:20] <crimsun> TaTonka: I'm fairly certain you're using snd_cs4236, because that's what I asked you to load...
[07:20] <odat> anyone know if there has been any headway of linux drivers for lexmark
[07:20] <blakcheez> but I can't install anything because it's either something about the locales or a post-installation script
[07:20] <HedgeMage> odat: laser or inkjet?
[07:20] <vidalito> bimberi: that's a big true! sleeping time!!
[07:20] <TaTonka> crimsun: so...echo snd-cs4235 |sudo tee -a
[07:20] <Vaske_Car> I fixed my screen resolution :)
[07:20] <Verithrax> Ah, I figured it out.
[07:20] <TaTonka> cat /proc/asound/modules
[07:20] <spine> http://xzziroz.net/docs/defacements/bsod_defaced.jpg
[07:20] <spine> defaced
[07:20] <billytwowilly> how do I delete all the packages apt has downloaded and has stored?
[07:20] <cef> exclipy: because 'sudo -s' runs the shell that's in the "SHELL" environment variable. if that gets changed to say, oh i dunno, 'rm -rf /home' and then you run 'sudo -s'.. I think you can see the problem
[07:21] <HedgeMage> odat: their laser division is very well-supported... their inkjets are the largest PITA I've ever tried to get working
[07:21] <crimsun> TaTonka: what's the output from that cat command?
[07:21] <bimberi> billytwowilly: sudo apt-get clean
[07:21] <billytwowilly> thank you.
[07:21] <TaTonka> k 1 sec
[07:21] <odat> HedgeMage, lol you should try their all in ones
[07:21] <maruchan> whats the channel for xgl
[07:21] <blakcheez> so is there any way of reinstall them or something?
[07:22] <maruchan> i thought it was ubuntu+xgl but i guess not
[07:22] <HedgeMage> odat: even worse... had one... it's the printer from hell
[07:22] <TaTonka> SND_cs4236
[07:22] <Vaske_Car> What should I do now in order to start apache? Is it installed by default with 6.06?
[07:22] <crimsun> TaTonka: right, so you typed the wrong thing
[07:22] <protocol2_> would anyone please help me go about updating my ff <IP_ADDRESS> browser after a fresh install of dapper to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[07:22] <KeithWeisshar> why can't i get the nvidia-glx driver working in a live session
[07:22] <TaTonka> but in vo,ume control
[07:22] <corona> !<gtk>
[07:22] <kibmcz> only with the LAMP server install
[07:22] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, corona
[07:22] <crimsun> TaTonka: you'll need edit /etc/modules and change that 5 to a 6
[07:22] <Vaske_Car> how do I access it? like http://localhost  or what?
[07:22] <TaTonka> the device is listed as 4235
[07:22] <bimberi> Vaske_Car: no, but it you can install it using synaptic
[07:23] <crimsun> TaTonka: the device is unimportant. We're talking about the driver name.
[07:23] <maruchan> whats ubuntu xgl channel
[07:23] <corona> !<libgtk>
[07:23] <ubotu> corona: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:23] <TaTonka> ohhh ok
[07:23] <KeithWeisshar> i installed the nvidia-glx driver but it doesn't work when i run nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:23] <bimberi> Vaske_Car: http://localhost will work once it's installed
[07:23] <adamant1988> how much has changed between the release candidate dapper, and the official release dapper?
[07:23] <KeithWeisshar> it doesn't work while booted from the live cd
[07:23] <crimsun> TaTonka: sudo sed -i s/cs4235/cs4236/ /etc/modules
[07:23] <corona> have you tried the wiki keith?
[07:24] <TaTonka> crimsun how r u this good at commands lol
[07:24] <MrKeuner> hi, what's the minimum smtp software needed to run fetchmail?
[07:24] <Vaske_Car> bimberi, will that tutorial for installing LAMP for 5.10 work with this version as well (6.06)
[07:24] <maruchan> no one knows ubntus xgl channel
[07:24] <maruchan> ?
[07:24] <KeithWeisshar> why can't i install nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings at the same time
[07:24] <adamant1988> maruchan.. just pull up the channel list
[07:24] <MrKeuner> shouldn't that be a prereq for fetchmail and be automatically installed?
[07:24] <KeithWeisshar> if i try to install nvidia-settings it uninstalls nvidia-glx
[07:24] <vidalito> uff! a lot of people here today
[07:24] <frank_> protocol2_: any security fixes in <IP_ADDRESS> will be integrated in <IP_ADDRESS>. Do you really need to upgrade?
[07:24] <crimsun> TaTonka: it's a long story. A long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...
[07:24] <bimberi> Vaske_Car: i would say so (but can't be totally certain) - the package names are unlikely to have changed
[07:24] <linuxboy> ubotu: ubuntu+1
[07:24] <ubotu> linuxboy: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:25] <bimberi> maruchan: #ubuntu-xgl
[07:25] <adamant1988> Does anyone in here use enlightenment WM with Ubuntu?
[07:25] <farous> adamant1988: i use e16
[07:25] <TaTonka> ok crimsun, it says there is no such directory
[07:25] <Nothus> Grr
[07:25] <TaTonka> in the s/cs4235/cs4236/ part
[07:25] <Nothus> Don't know what's wrong but I can't use gdm since upgrading to Dapper..
[07:25] <adamant1988> farous, how is that working out for you? I'm trying to decide which distro to go with, but I want to install E16 or 17 on it
[07:26] <KeithWeisshar> why does nvidia-settings remove nvidia-glx in dapper-drake
[07:26] <farous> adamant1988: e16 is truely old but stable. now i prefer fluxbox over both
[07:26] <Vaske_Car> bimberi, what packages do I need in order to host PHP forum?
[07:26] <adamant1988> is fluxboth able to compete graphically?
[07:26] <farous> adamant1988: but there is a howto for installing e17 and i think special repos too
[07:26] <geneo93> because nvidia settings is in nvidia-glx
[07:27] <crimsun> TaTonka: gksudo 'gedit /etc/modules'
[07:27] <Vaske_Car> bimberi, there is to many related to php mysql and apache....
[07:27] <bimberi> Vaske_Car: no idea sorry, someone else might know
[07:27] <farous> adamant1988: i am not keen on flashy display. it is more than enough for me
[07:27] <adamant1988> I need some eye candy on my desktop, heh.  I'll look into it
[07:28] <farous> gnome is quite fast too under dapper competes well with fluxbox which is extremely fast
[07:28] <MrKeuner> what's the minimum smtp software needed to run fetchmail?
[07:28] <yipe> wow, it's dropped by more than 100 people
[07:28] <BHSPitMonkey> hey
[07:28] <crimsun> 600 is normal for this channel.
[07:28] <yipe> hi
[07:29] <yipe> it was at 1050 earlier today
[07:29] <KeithWeisshar> why can't i activate the nvidia-glx driver from a live cd session
[07:29] <BHSPitMonkey> I'm on step 5 of the installer... I selected custom partition table editing, and it's sort of stuck
[07:29] <yipe> very quiet at the moment, strange
[07:29] <disinterested_pe> how can i get my webcam working its a usb?
[07:29] <jet87> dangit, woot had BoC's tonight!
[07:29] <farous> adamant1988: did you look at http://www.gnome-look.org/?xcontentmode=150
[07:29] <BHSPitMonkey> the CD access light has been going for at least 30min now
[07:29] <TaTonka> ok crimsun, in that text file there is snd-cs4235
[07:29] <yipe> oh there they go:-D
[07:29] <BHSPitMonkey> and the busy cursor
[07:29] <adamant1988> no I didn't, farous. :)
[07:29] <farous> of kde-look.com
[07:29] <farous> adamant1988: i am sure you will find more thn what you need
[07:29] <crimsun> TaTonka: so change that 5 to a 6, then save it and close gedit
[07:30] <KeithWeisshar> i did sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx and did sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and then restarted x from a live cd session but it doesn't activate
[07:30] <mustard5> BHSPitMonkey: sounds likes its stuck :)
[07:30] <BHSPitMonkey> oh.
[07:30] <KeithWeisshar> it installs but doesn't activate
[07:30] <TaTonka> is snd-cs4235 right?
[07:30] <TaTonka> is snd-cs4236 right?*
[07:30] <farous> Nothus: what is the problem can not you start gnome
[07:30] <KeithWeisshar> i tried to edit xorg.conf but it says read only
[07:30] <Nothus> farous: Starting gnome or fvwm comes up with the same error..
[07:30] <BHSPitMonkey> also, I think something's fishy with the time zone selector tool... why's it identify chicago as GMT-5?
[07:30] <TaTonka> or should it be snd_cs4236
[07:31] <farous> Nothus: did you look at gdm.conf
[07:31] <crimsun> TaTonka: it should be snd_cs4236 or snd-cs4236
[07:31] <farous> Nothus: what is the error by the way
[07:31] <dsas> KeithWeisshar: You need to edit it with administrative privileges.
[07:31] <TaTonka> kk thanks man, anything else?
[07:31] <Nothus> farous: .xsession-errors: stty: standard input: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[07:31] <dsas> KeithWeisshar: Try going into a terminal and typing "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[07:32] <KeithWeisshar> does the ubuntu need to be install to the hard drive before installing the nvidia-glx driver
[07:32] <farous> stty i think it is your keyboard but let me check. did you change your xorg.conf file
[07:32] <Vaske_Car> bimberi, there should be a way to install LAMP with single command on 6.06 acording to developer...
[07:32] <crimsun> TaTonka: that should do it for sound
[07:32] <TaTonka> omg crimsun, thank u sooo effin much
[07:33] <blakcheez> so what exactly is locales?
[07:33] <Nothus> farous: From the upgrade? It wasn't one of the things I was asked to keep, so I assume it installed a new one?
[07:33] <TaTonka> ive been working on this alkl day, been in this room 3 times, never got any help until now lol
[07:33] <bimberi> Vaske_Car: yes i heard that too, but i haven't seen it documented anywhere
[07:34] <MrKeuner> what's the minimum smtp software needed to run fetchmail?
[07:34] <farous> Nothus: it is a serial dev not sure what is it. but you can install kdm or xdm though i doubt gdm is the problem
[07:34] <Nothus> farous: I kept the old version of gdm.conf cos I have it setup to allow remote XDMP
[07:34] <jet87> here goes resizing ntfs partitions!
[07:35] <jspark> hey i upgraded from 5.10 to 6.06, downloaded everything fine, installed, rebooted, X.org borked because no more nv, but managed to switch to vesa, and now I realize the nic is returning dest unreachable. same nic (intel) that downloaded the update. no love dhcp or static. anybody got any pointers?
[07:35] <TaTonka> crimsun, 1 more question, short answer
[07:35] <farous> Nothus: you can just change that later. keep your old file under another name for ref
[07:35] <TaTonka> do u think a ETHERNET-CRD ENCORE|ENL832-TX-RENT will be automatically insstalled when i put it in
[07:35] <Nothus> farous: Yeah, I think there's something being called, but I can't tell what, cos I can start X manually and it works..
[07:35] <corona> need help with building software-gtk errors
[07:35] <farous> Nothus: i am not sure if they changed anything in it though
[07:36] <crimsun> TaTonka: if it's pci, yes.
[07:36] <TaTonka> kk it is
[07:36] <TaTonka> thanks
[07:36] <Nothus> farous: Cool, I'll have to give that a bash later.. Need to go now.. Work is having a social
[07:36] <TaTonka> bye, thanks for ur help, time to watch 40 year ol virgin, woohoo
[07:36] <Nothus> farous: Thanks :-)
[07:36] <farous> Nothus: enabling xdmp is not that hard :) srore it as gdm.conf-old and reinstall the new one
[07:36] <farous> take care Nothus
[07:36] <blakcheez> E: locales: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 4
[07:37] <jm_install> I'm installing dapper at the moment...
[07:37] <jm_install> One annoying thing, though
[07:38] <jm_install> Why does it have to default to deleting all my stuff?
[07:38] <mustard5> jm_install: deleting all what stuff?
[07:39] <jm_install> select "erase hard drive" by default
[07:39] <VoX> so... any idea when the kept-back packages are going to be fixed? :)
[07:39] <|Spider|> hello
[07:39] <|Spider|>  Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake what ram he need for desktop'
[07:39] <orbin> jm_install: dual/multibooting is a specialised case i guess
[07:39] <jm_install> Then when I partition manually, it selects (at random) a default for which partition to set for / with the "format" box ticked.
[07:39] <orbin> |Spider|: 192 iirc
[07:39] <|Spider|> 192 MB?
[07:40] <mustard5> jm_install: you don't have to choose that, but I guess it could be construed as annoying to be the default selection
[07:40] <nosklo> |Spider|, 256MB RAM is recommended for desktop install
[07:40] <|Spider|> if i have 125 MB?
[07:40] <|Spider|> 128*
[07:40] <nosklo> |Spider|, try xubuntu
[07:40] <jm_install> orbin: specialized?? You really think most people wipe Windows the first time they install Ubuntu on their machine
[07:40] <jm_install> ?
[07:40] <|Spider|> i dont want xubuntu
[07:40] <|Spider|> i want ubuntu
[07:40] <jspark> then buy some more RAM
[07:40] <nosklo> |Spider|, purchase more RAM
[07:40] <krazykit> why don't you want xubuntu?
[07:40] <|Spider|>
[07:40] <|Spider|> i dont have money =(
[07:40] <|Spider|> and to 5.10 what ram i need?
[07:40] <mustard5> |Spider|: its a bit short of RAM atm
[07:41] <jm_install> mustard5: isn't it a good thing for the default to be the least potentially destructive option?
[07:41] <farous> |Spider|: install ubuntu and run a light weight window manager
[07:41] <krazykit> |Spider|: same.
[07:41] <|Spider|> :s
[07:41] <|Spider|> i have ubuntu 5.10
[07:41] <Madpilot> |Spider|: Xubuntu 6.06 is pretty slick - XFCE is almost as nice as Gnome, I think
[07:41] <|Spider|> and he have a good install
[07:41] <nosklo> |Spider|, install xubuntu, make some good work and sell, purchase more ram, and finally install ubuntu.
[07:41] <jm_install> Anyway, that being said, I'm quite impressed with the rest so far (but still only at the beginning of the install)
[07:41] <krazykit> |Spider|: for gnome to be usable, you really do want 256.  you might get away with 128, but i wouldn't use gnome on it.
[07:41] <|Spider|> but i have ubuntu 5.10 i he dont hav error
[07:41] <jspark> what's the difference in resources used, xubuntu vs. (k)ubuntu?
[07:41] <nosklo> |Spider|, 256 is *recommended* not minimum
[07:42] <nosklo> |Spider|, it will install with 128
[07:42] <|Spider|> is recommend
[07:42] <|Spider|> oh thanks
[07:42] <|Spider|> because i windows is minium 512 for the new version f*ck !!
[07:42] <krazykit> jspark: xfce uses fewer resources.  the DE itself is lighter, and some of the apps are lighter-weight ones as well.
[07:42] <nosklo> jspark, big
[07:42] <|Spider|> i want much ubuntu :)
[07:42] <Hajuu> hey guys. I am using LADSPA plugins to process my guitar using jackd running in realtime mode... And I want to record the output with the effects applied... But I dont want to have to run a loopback cable from my output to my input type thing.. sounds very complex
[07:42] <jm_install> I don't know who's responsible for the graphics of 6.06, but that's pretty good as well.
[07:42] <Hajuu> sure there must be a way to route it
[07:42] <Hajuu> any ideas?
[07:43] <klormexor> anyone know how to save all tabs on Mozilla/Firefox so I dont have to look up all my previous links every-single-restart?
[07:43] <orbin> actually, it loosk like it needs 256: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/606
[07:43] <|Spider|> what diference have xubuntu and ubuntu
[07:43] <nosklo> Hajuu, run ardour
[07:43] <krazykit> |Spider|: people have been whining about system requirements since computers came out.  OF COURSE new versions need more resourses.
[07:43] <|Spider|> why another name =S
[07:43] <jspark> klor: you can use SessionSaver plugin
[07:43] <cello_rasp> klormexor: bookmarks > bookmark all tabs??
[07:43] <dsas> klormexor: You'll need to install a firefox extension
[07:43] <nosklo> Hajuu, and plug using jack connector kit, the output of your ladspa effect software into ardour
[07:43] <krazykit> |Spider|: because xubuntu uses xfce and ubuntu uses gnome.
[07:43] <|Spider|> oh
[07:43] <klormexor> dsas |Spider| keep talking
[07:43] <alanhs> Hi, has anyone had problems with agpgart stalling and killing the install (Dapper 6.06) ?
[07:44] <jspark> klor: i usually condense all tabs to a single window, then set them as my home in preferences ("use current tabs")
[07:44] <Hajuu> ardour eh.. ok I have that but havent tried yet
[07:44] <klormexor> oh
[07:44] <jspark> then the next time i open fx, they reopne
[07:44] <nosklo> Hajuu, you can use any sound recorder, i find ardour the best one
[07:44] <klormexor> mmm let me look at that
[07:44] <nosklo> Hajuu, but it has some learning curve tho
[07:44] <|Spider|> but if i want install ubuntu , i will be have good install the recomend is 256 but if i want 128 can make install correct?
[07:44] <Hajuu> Ive been using rosegarden
[07:44] <nosklo> Hajuu, please read the fine manual
[07:44] <DBO> krazykit, erm... yeah, but usually they try not to knock off 95% of pre-existing computers to force upgrades...  And having run the Vista beta on a 64 MB vid card with Aero (it requires 128 now) I can say its a very artificial limitation this time, but alas this is a convo for #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:44] <mustard5> klormexor: isnt there a save a group of tabs selection in bookmarks?
[07:44] <klormexor> jspark: where is that option
[07:44] <klormexor> mustard5:  let me chek
[07:45] <krazykit> DBO: well, microsoft simply takes it to the extreme and we can leave it there
[07:45] <mustard5> klormexor: I'm pretty certain I've seen it (and used it)
[07:45] <jspark> klor: in preferences, there is a "use current pages" button for home
[07:45] <krazykit> |Spider|: it should install with 128.  whether you'll be happy with performance is another.
[07:45] <|Spider|> ?
[07:45] <klormexor> mustard5:  dont see that :P my bookmarks are blank
[07:45] <klormexor> mustard5:  ok let me check that
[07:45] <nosklo> Hajuu, you probably can route the sound back to rosegarden (if it uses jack) I am not familiar with rosegarden
[07:46] <|Spider|> what is wether? krazykit
[07:46] <mustard5> klormexor: hmm not on ubuntu atm so I'm at a loss
[07:46] <jspark> klor: another approach i use is to make a new folder on the bookmarks toolbar, then use Bookmarks > Bookmark all tabs
[07:46] <klormexor> jspark: thanks
[07:46] <klormexor> mustard5: what OS?
[07:46] <protocol2_> does anyone in here know if dapper comes with the ff <IP_ADDRESS> browser and if so how do I go about updating it?
[07:46] <mustard5> klormexor: I'm on a puppy live CD )
[07:46] <krazykit> |Spider|: i'm just saying, it'll install, but you might not be happy with how well it runs.
[07:46] <frank_> protocol2_: any security fixes in <IP_ADDRESS> will be integrated in <IP_ADDRESS>. Do you really need to upgrade?
[07:46] <farous> protocol2_: it comes with ff1.5.03
[07:46] <orbin> protocol2_: yes it does.  update to what? .0.3 is the latest
[07:47] <orbin> isn't it?
[07:47] <Vaske_Car> Xbuntu mean Ubuntu with GUI?
[07:47] <protocol2_> <IP_ADDRESS> is the latest
[07:47] <frank_> orbin: released <IP_ADDRESS> today l)
[07:47] <klormexor> mustard5:  is that the OS name?
[07:47] <krazykit> orbin: nope.  they release .4 recently
[07:47] <penguinwhoflew> anyone know why the glmatrix is hella slow?
[07:47] <orbin> frank_, krazykit :  ah thanks
[07:47] <nicholaspaul> hey - whats the best way to upgrade from breezy to dapper? just change repos?
[07:47] <mustard5> klormexor: puppy linux  yeah
[07:47] <jspark> vaske: xubuntu means ubuntu with the XFCE windows mgr
[07:47] <krazykit> penguinwhoflew: maybe you don't have hardware acceleration going
[07:47] <Lynoure> |Spider|: only 128 of memory? That's little. Which kind of memory? I could see if I could scavenge your more from some of our old computers (but it might take time).
[07:47] <orbin> s/mirror/host
[07:47] <penguinwhoflew> krazykit: and how do i check that, or how do i enable it
[07:48] <Vaske_Car> !tell Vacke_Car about XFCE
[07:48] <spikeb> bah puppy
[07:48] <protocol2_> can someone help me out....?
[07:48] <nosklo> Vaske_Car, ubuntu has gui too, but gnome windows manager instead of xfce
[07:48] <orbin> protocol2_: gksudo firefox
[07:48] <dsas> nicholaspaul: Yeah basically
[07:48] <stevekl> protocol2_: it comes with 1.5.something if that's what you mean
[07:48] <orbin> protocol2_: then help > check for updates
[07:48] <klormexor> jspark:  that worked, thanks a bunchhhh man thanks this is wow, i really hate to reboot and lose track of what ive been watching
[07:48] <dsas> !tell nicholaspaul about upgrade
[07:48] <farous> penguinwhoflew: type glxinfo |grep render . if the answer is render = yes you have 3-d accel
[07:48] <jspark> klor: i know, i'm a huge tabs junkie
[07:48] <krazykit> penguinwhoflew: um, do `glxinfo |grep render
[07:48] <nicholaspaul> dsas: oh ok i've heard differing opinions, thats why i thot id ask.
[07:49] <klormexor> jspark:  heeh
[07:49] <Vaske_Car> oh so we have Gnome, KDE and XFCE right?
[07:49] <|Spider|> i dont what i have because i dont rember and windows the specifications he said 128 MB but he said one people he rest the DVD and etc...
[07:49] <dsas> nicholaspaul: It makes basically no difference.
[07:49] <krazykit> penguinwhoflew: it should say "direct rendering: Yes" and then show your card.
[07:49] <jspark> vaske: yeah, Ubu = Gnome, Kubu = KDE, Xubu = XFCE
[07:49] <penguinwhoflew> it says No
[07:49] <penguinwhoflew> damnit
[07:49] <penguinwhoflew> wtf
[07:49] <krazykit> penguinwhoflew: ah, then you get to have fun with ati or nvidia, depending on your card!
[07:49] <nicholaspaul> dsas: alrighty. . thx! I'l give it a whirl.
[07:49] <orbin> Vaske_Car: as default DEs for each distro yes.  but you can grab any of those and a few more in any distro
[07:49] <protocol2_> orbin, check for updates is greyed out
[07:50] <orbin> protocol2_: wehn run as gksudo?
[07:50] <protocol2_> should I reboot and try again
[07:50] <protocol2_> yeah
[07:50] <Vaske_Car> orbin, thanks bud!
[07:50] <farous> penguinwhoflew: that is common when you try to install the ati driver from source
[07:50] <penguinwhoflew> god help me
[07:50] <penguinwhoflew> farous: heeeelp
[07:50] <farous> penguinwhoflew: but what is your card?
[07:50] <farous> are you sure it support 3-d accel
[07:50] <klormexor> mustard5:  ta hell is fluxbox
[07:50] <Corey> Hey guys I have an older ati video card, which driver do I use ?
[07:50] <penguinwhoflew> farous:  radeon 9600
[07:51] <Vaske_Car> How to install flash player for Firefox?
[07:51] <farous> tht is my card
[07:51] <blanky> !flash
[07:51] <klormexor> penguinwhoflew: ive got a 9600 what computer??
[07:51] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:51] <mustard5> klormexor: a desktop environment..like xfce or kde or gnome
[07:51] <klormexor> ahh
[07:51] <klormexor> i should try that
[07:51] <Corey> Which driver do I use for older ati cards ?
[07:51] <farous> ok penguinwhoflew remove all the fglrx drivers you installed and reinstall them
[07:51] <penguinwhoflew> klormexor: home built.
[07:51] <orbin> Corey: if you don't need accel.  just use vesa
[07:51] <blanky> !ati
[07:51] <penguinwhoflew> farous: remove... yea... not so easy for me
[07:51] <thammer> anyone have any experience getting ubuntu installed on an ATI Southbeach raid 0 array? I can't get it to partition -- Breezy Badger
[07:52] <Wang_XL> the name to logon the x-chat can not contain "."?
[07:52] <Corey> orbin: I need opengl and direct rendering
[07:52] <penguinwhoflew> farous: how...?
[07:52] <Lynoure> |Spider|: ok, if it turns out that you really have that little memory (half a giga being more usual nowadays), feel free to drop me a line (to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>) about the type of memory you need, and I'll see in a week or two what I can get from the old computer carcasses I have here.
[07:52] <farous> i am sure the installation you did left some config files that is messing up your sys
[07:52] <GeorgeAScott> so i like it so far...
[07:52] <orbin> Corey: then grab fglrx
[07:52] <farous> penguinwhoflew: ok sudo aptitude purge ~nfglrx
[07:52] <Corey> orbin: isnt that for newer ati cards ?
[07:52] <blanky> man I REALLY HATE the new xchat-gnome thing in dapper, I want the old one
[07:52] <orbin> ubotu: tell Corey about ati
[07:52] <klormexor> penguinwhoflew: oh ok, well I went thru the ATIHOWTO first.. then the Ubuntu_Breeze_install.. if you follow those two linkts step by step, upgrade everything and fix the 1280x800 crap out problem you should be allright, if not we'll help you out
[07:52] <disinterested_pe> im running dapper and am trying to install yahoo messenger has anyone got it installed?
[07:52] <orbin> Corey: good point.  check if it's supported i guess
[07:52] <blanky> !ati
[07:52] <spikeb> blanky, install xchat then, not xchat-gnome
[07:52] <TaTonka> well now that i got my sound up, it isnt letting me play any mp3s off my external
[07:52] <protocol2_> orbin, any suggestions
[07:52] <blanky> spikeb: there's no package by that name
[07:53] <krazykit> disinterested_pe: use gaim, perhaps?
[07:53] <penguinwhoflew> farous: done, it removed 2 packages
[07:53] <Corey> orbin: everytime I use fglrx when i restart it comes up with a blue screen saying my xorg is configured incorrectly.
[07:53] <penguinwhoflew> and now?
[07:53] <jspark> it looks like 6.06 thinks i have some DEC/Davicom NIC when it's actually intel. is it modprobe I need to tell it to look again?
[07:53] <orbin> Corey: how did you install fglrx?
[07:53] <alanhs> !transcript
[07:53] <ubotu> alanhs: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:53] <farous> fglrx-control and xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:53] <spikeb> !info xchat dapper
[07:53] <dsas> disinterested_pe: You can also use gaim to talk on yahoo. It'll be easier to get running
[07:53] <disinterested_pe> i am useing gaim it sucks
[07:53] <ubotu> xchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 254 kB, Installed size: 720 kB
[07:53] <spikeb> yes there is
[07:53] <orbin> protocol2_: did you run it using gksudo?
[07:53] <Corey> orbin: I re-conifugured the xorg
[07:53] <farous> ok now remove the linux-restricted modules
[07:53] <protocol2_> yes
[07:53] <GeorgeAScott> i can only adjust sound levels with my speaker's volume control
[07:53] <orbin> protocol2_: try the chown way i guess: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion#head-989f6d047637b584e6af702799965c7570a81f6b
[07:53] <farous> sudo aptitude purge linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[07:53] <Vaske_Car> THis command is not working sudo update-flashplugin
[07:53] <disinterested_pe> same for me geroge
[07:54] <disinterested_pe> george
[07:54] <GeorgeAScott> well, i can use the alsamixer too..
[07:54] <orbin> Corey: choosing fglrx as the driver?
[07:54] <Corey> orbin: yeah I did but it comes up with a blue screen
[07:54] <farous> penguinwhoflew: are you running on the fglrx drivers now
[07:54] <orbin> Corey: did you actgually install the fglrxc driver?
[07:54] <TaTonka> well now that i got my sound up, it isnt letting me play any mp3s off my external
[07:54] <Corey> orbin: I'm not sure..
[07:54] <TaTonka> any help?
[07:54] <penguinwhoflew> farous: yes.  E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:55] <farous> penguinwhoflew: you will need to change your xorg.conf file to use the ati driver
[07:55] <orbin> Corey: well the reconfig is usually run after you actgually install the driver
[07:55] <GeorgeAScott> but none of the other controls work.. nor does the volume on my keyboard... it brings up a osd and shows the level going up and down.. it just doesn't do anything
[07:55] <orbin> Corey: see that wiki link ubotu sent you
[07:55] <axion`> I cant get wine to install! =(
[07:55] <farous> penguinwhoflew: close anyother instance of synaptic, and update manager
[07:55] <penguinwhoflew> farous: uhhhh. right. how?
[07:55] <frank_> axion`: do you have universe enabled?
[07:56] <rixxon> i have a .avi which plays fine, and an .idx and a .sub, how do i play the .avi with these subs?
[07:56] <axion`> do i add that under component?
[07:56] <farous> penguinwhoflew: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf than scroll to where it say fglrx change it to ati. Do not make any other changes
[07:56] <stevekl> I know I asked this but I didn't get an answer: can you install dapper in a non-X environment?
[07:56] <protocol2_> orbin, the chown way suggests that I change settings in /opt/firefox which doesnt exsist?
[07:56] <Madpilot> stevekl: you mean a server install? Yes.
[07:56] <farous> penguinwhoflew: be carefull while edititng the file
[07:56] <jspark> rixx: have you tried VLC?
[07:56] <orbin> stevekl: yes, do a server install
[07:57] <nubee> hi gang, is it possible to upgrade from breezy?
[07:57] <penguinwhoflew> farous: don't worry, i effed it up once
[07:57] <klormexor> penguinwhoflew: Services - Drivers "Devices" section  just edit that!! nothin else :P
[07:57] <farous> penguinwhoflew: back it up just in case
[07:57] <Corey> see the problem with my card is that the games are ultra laggy i did something accidently and now they are laggy when they used to be fine..how can I use a default graphics thing ?
[07:57] <jspark> nubee: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[07:57] <chavo> stevekl, do you mean the installation itself?
[07:57] <stevekl> orbin and Madpilot: ok, thank you
[07:57] <Caminomaster> hello
[07:57] <stevekl> chavo: the installation itself
[07:57] <Corey> how can I do a default graphics card install ?
[07:58] <orbin> protocol2_: ok.  that's how it worked in breezy ... firefox 1.5 was installed by source...i'm not sure how the dapper upgrade would work...probably wait for it in the repos?
[07:58] <Auckland_Pig> how can i create an iso file from the dapper cd?
[07:58] <TaTonka> can any1 help me with my problem of ubuntu not playing mp3s
[07:58] <Caminomaster> can I get a program to unlock zip files?
[07:58] <axion`> frank_ : universe is enabled - I get this: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[07:58] <penguinwhoflew> farous: it already says Driver		"ati"