[16:45] <PCdude> hi all!
[16:45] <PCdude> I have here a PC, with an openstack install from conjure-up
[16:45] <PCdude> it works, but it cannot take a restart
[16:46] <PCdude> when I do so, LXC list and commands like that do not work anymore
[16:46] <PCdude> when issuing them and hitting enter the cursor goes to the next line but stays there. no output no error nothing...
[16:46] <PCdude> the services seem to work, but that is all. they show up in "top"
[16:47] <PCdude> any idea?
[18:40] <stokachu> PCdude: yea im hitting this issue too, trying to figure out why restarts aren't bringing up the containers automatically
[20:05] <PCdude> stokachu: well if u have the issue too then I know why I was not able to fix it :)
[20:05] <PCdude> way over my head then haha


[00:00] <rick_h_> so in the sandbox with the simulator I've got two mysqls in one lxc container mysql/0 and mysql/5
[00:01] <rick_h_> huwshimi: if you get a sec toss your card on the board please
[00:02] <huwshimi> rick_h_: Oh yes, sure.
[00:02] <rick_h_> huwshimi: thanks, will try to look after we settle this fire
[00:02] <huwshimi> rick_h_: It's all good. Let me know if I can help with anything.
[00:06] <hatch> running tests
[00:07] <rick_h_> hatch: rgr
[00:08] <Makyo> hatch, rick_h_ just curious, what's stopping us from using LXCs?  I've deployed to them on EC2 before; is this an openstack thing?
[00:08] <rick_h_> Makyo: yes, the demo hardware is openstack running on openstack
[00:08] <rick_h_> Makyo: not openstack on bare metal via maas like we thought
[00:08] <Makyo> Boo, so no containers?
[00:08] <Makyo> Ah, crap.
[00:08] <rick_h_> Makyo: yep, none at all, lxc or kvm
[00:08] <Makyo> That's where I was confused
[00:09] <rick_h_> so worst worst case we swap the drop target to the create new machine and just deploy a new service on a new machine via machine view, but if we can colocate on bare metal we can at least demo that as closer to what we want to show
[00:11] <hatch> ok rick_h_  it's up
[00:11] <rick_h_> hatch: rgr, updating my two envs
[00:14] <rick_h_> distfile building
[00:14] <rick_h_> dave in #juju think this won't work as --to is a hack and the api won't support it like we're trying to use it
[00:15] <hatch> lol
[00:15] <Makyo> Can we just be pretty?
[00:15] <rick_h_> hatch: Makyo so probably be prepared to just try to create a new machine. I think we can move the drop target to the machine one, use the last commit, and just remove the machine parent?
[00:16] <rick_h_> to deploy a new unit on a new machine (no parent machine id) and then after that machine bring up the unit
[00:16]  * rick_h_ is still holding out hope as these damn distfiles build
[00:16] <rick_h_> or what do you guys think?
[00:17] <hatch> so drop on the new machine header?
[00:17] <hatch> I thought the colo was the big deal?
[00:17] <Makyo> rick_h_, if that works, I'm all for it.  It sounds like a valid path, too.  "Let's deploy Nagios, just drag it onto a new machine..."
[00:17] <rick_h_> hatch: I did too until the last 30min
[00:18] <rick_h_> hatch: I'm cranky this isn't working out like we wanted, I'll be honest
[00:19] <rick_h_> Makyo: yea, that's my thought. It's a small step code-wise from where we were with lxc
[00:19] <hatch> good thing I saved that code
[00:19] <hatch> lol
[00:19]  * hatch planned for this
[00:19] <hatch> haha
[00:19] <rick_h_> hatch: yea, thank you git
[00:19] <hatch> ok I'll make the machine header the droppable one
[00:19] <rick_h_> hatch: lol, plan for "the issue is going to be"
[00:20] <hatch> haha
[00:20] <rick_h_> hatch: thanks, I'll still work on this qa here just to be sure
[00:20] <rick_h_> damn this distfile stuff is slow when you're watching it
[00:21] <rick_h_> oh npm wheee
[00:21] <rick_h_> I'm going to nuke that damn site one of these days
[00:21] <hatch> 'var container = db.machines.add({id: 'Hi Openstack!'});
[00:22] <hatch> kehehehe
[00:22] <rick_h_> lol
[00:22] <rick_h_> just don't makeit "Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu"
[00:23] <hatch> do you know what the container type for bare metal is?
[00:23] <rick_h_> null? Makyo any idea?
[00:24] <hatch> I'll try undefined and see if it breaks
[00:24] <Makyo> no container type
[00:24] <Makyo> No parentId, no containerType
[00:24] <rick_h_> hatch: rm the attr?
[00:24] <hatch> coo
[00:24] <hatch> yeah
[00:24] <rick_h_> k
[00:25] <hatch> hehe apparenlty it doesn't like my machine name :D
[00:25] <rick_h_> lol
[00:27] <Makyo> Problem I'm getting now (probably fixed by having MS log in beforehand) is that on login, it displays a broken GUI rather than the login screen
[00:27] <Makyo> Until you refresh
[00:27] <Makyo> Then it offers the login screen
[00:27] <hatch> ok it's working but not showing the icon when it first creates the token
[00:27] <Makyo> Oh, flags.
[00:28] <Makyo> I had flags in the URL before loading login
[00:31] <Makyo> So, fwiw, everything works on EC2 if I just create a new machine with the unplaced unit
[00:31] <rick_h_> Makyo: ?
[00:31] <Makyo> rick_h_, if I drag the unplaced unit to a new machine (what I'd guessed was the path, correct me if I'm wrong)
[00:31] <rick_h_> Makyo: ok, this is with hatch's latest?
[00:32] <Makyo> rick_h_, I think so, within the last 15 minutes.
[00:32] <hatch> that shouldn't work heh, maybe you're on the version HEAD~2 ?
[00:32] <rick_h_> Makyo: yea, what's version.js say?
[00:33] <rick_h_> hatch: Makyo let's hop in a hangout?
[00:33] <hatch> fire me a link, will be in in a min
[00:33] <hatch> just need to get the dogs in
[00:33] <rick_h_> k
[00:33] <Makyo> acb5d2a
[00:33] <rick_h_> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/g4qxjkx7wpe5uiwrl7eahe6fb4a?hl=en
[00:34] <rick_h_> Makyo: ok, so that's the latest "colocates on primary machine"
[00:35] <huwshimi> jcsackett: Did you implement the units on machines/containers? It might be our simulator, but it never shows more than one unit on a container/bare metal, even if there are more units showing for the machine than there are containers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1826926/units.png
[00:36] <huwshimi> If we're colocating, we might need to fix that if it's not a simulator issue
[00:40] <huwshimi> Oh, maybe our unit mapping is wrong, the extra units have a different machine id
[00:43] <rick_h_> huwshimi: yea, we'll have to look into it. Something's not right. I noticed it when doing the mongodb bundle
[00:54] <huwshimi> oh, it's matching the first part of the id, so a unit.machine = 12 will render on machine.id=1 and unit.machine = 25 will render to machine.id=2
[00:55] <rick_h_> huwshimi: heh, that seems ungood :)
[00:55] <huwshimi> Yeah... :)
[00:55] <rick_h_> good catch
[00:56] <rick_h_> ok, bootstrapped new lxc and ec2 envs on my desktop so I can throw moar power at the problem!
[01:04] <hatch> ok the machine token is being created before the unit is assigned
[01:04] <hatch> that's why it's not rendering properly
[01:05] <rick_h_> so when the machine is assigned we're unlazy-updating-relazying?
[01:05] <rick_h_> can the machine token watch the unit for changes?
[01:05] <rick_h_> and update accordingly?
[01:05] <hatch> the unfortunately named '_smartUpdateList' isn't very smart
[01:05] <rick_h_> lol
[01:05] <hatch> and falls over when called manually
[01:06] <hatch> I'm not sure why it fails
[01:06] <hatch> maybe I can manually clear it out
[01:07] <rick_h_> so updateMachines and smartUpdateList appear to only be for the unplaced unit list
[01:08] <rick_h_> oh never mind
[01:08] <rick_h_> misreading that
[01:08] <rick_h_> hatch: so if you call updateMachines it won't work?
[01:08] <rick_h_> _updateMachines that is
[01:08] <hatch> nope, just trying to look into why
[01:09] <rick_h_> hatch: what's _updateMachineWithUnitData for?
[01:09] <hatch> the unit doesn't yet know what machine it's being assigned to
[01:09] <hatch> so that doesn't help
[01:09] <hatch> so it's passed an empty list
[01:10] <rick_h_> hatch: when we place the unit we don't know the machine to updateMachineWithUnitData?
[01:11] <rick_h_> hatch: I'm getting at it's broken for a split second then updates
[01:18] <rick_h_> hatch: want to push up what you've got and I can pull down and help poke at it?
[01:20] <hatch> yeah one sec
[01:20] <rick_h_> k thx
[01:23] <hatch> I'm pretty much back to https://github.com/hatched/juju-gui/commit/2f7a580bb5c0b81e154438422378b95d3adb2d7a
[01:23] <hatch> it's the closest I've gotten
[01:24] <rick_h_> hatch: cool, update the pr and I'll pull down and stab at it some
[01:25] <hatch> GOT IT
[01:26] <hatch> fffffuuuuuuuuuuuu
[01:26] <hatch> hah
[01:26] <hatch> rick_h_
[01:26] <hatch> I'll clean this mess up and push it up
[01:26] <rick_h_> huh?
[01:27] <hatch> I got it
[01:27] <hatch> it renders the icon
[01:28] <rick_h_> woot
[01:28] <hatch> it doesn't render the container though until after deploying
[01:29] <rick_h_> hatch: Makyo stand down, we've been bumped
[01:29] <hatch> But....I.....Just.....
[01:29] <hatch> I even just got the container to render
[01:29] <rick_h_> hatch: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/daily-standup?authuser=1
[01:30] <hatch> rick_h_ we r in
[01:35] <rick_h_> juju gui machine view demo killed, chat with me if you've got any questions.
[01:36] <huwshimi> rick_h_: :(
[01:36] <rick_h_> huwshimi: acutally jump in ^ for a minute please
[01:37] <hatch> rick_h_ https://github.com/hatched/juju-gui/tree/unit-drop-n-place-machine
[01:38] <hatch> that one, when dropping the unplaced unit on the machine header creates a machine token and a container for the bare metal
[01:41] <rick_h_> hatch: thanks
[01:41] <rick_h_> hatch: make it a pr for me please
[01:41] <rick_h_> hatch: just mark it WIP so I can see the diff/qa-pr it easier
[01:42] <rick_h_> thanks man, see you all later in the week
[01:42] <huwshimi> rick_h_: Cheers man, have a good one.
[01:42] <hatch> rick_h_ https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/318
[02:27]  * huwshimi has lunch
[11:55] <rick_h_> morning
[11:57] <lazyPower> o/
[12:15] <redir> morning
[12:25]  * rick_h_ takes the boy off to day care, biab
[12:28] <redir> ooo, google chat has circle icons now
[12:49] <rick_h_> ooh, fancy
[12:49]  * rick_h_ is back
[12:53] <jcsackett> morning all.
[12:57] <rick_h_> jcsackett: can you check out huw's branches this morning please?
[12:57] <jcsackett> rick_h_: already looking.
[12:57] <rick_h_> jcsackett: and take over if necessary, he's out this week I believe
[12:57] <jcsackett> rick_h_: got it.
[12:57] <rick_h_> jcsackett: ty much, I'll take a peek at yours here. Jeff's will hold for a bit
[12:57] <jcsackett> rick_h_: thanks.
[12:58] <rick_h_> redir: let's setup a chat later today to go through your doc comments. Are you still going through the doc or set now?
[13:16] <redir> rick_h_: i'll go back through it some more. and will draw some pictures from my notes.
[13:16] <rick_h_> redir: ok cool
[13:16] <rick_h_> redir: when you're set and ready then let's setup a call to walk through it
[13:16] <redir> reading the store code and setting up bzr branches under go -- which is new to me
[13:16] <redir> rick_h_: cool will do
[13:17] <rick_h_> redir: heh, yea welcome to the dual dvcs life :)
[13:21] <BradCrittenden> jcsackett: i'd like to get your feedback on my local charm ingestion branch when you have some time.  lp:~bac/charmworld/ingest-local-charms
[13:21] <jcsackett> bac: sure.
[13:21] <jcsackett> jujugui: i've just discovered i'm not part of ~juju-gui-peeps on launchpad anymore. assuming that's still the group to be in, can someone add me?
[13:21] <bac> jcsackett: ping me when you are free.  call it a mid-flight, pre-impy thing
[13:22] <jcsackett> bac: i'll ping you when i finish looking over huw's branch.
[13:22] <rick_h_> jcsackett: will do
[13:23] <rick_h_> jcsackett: added
[13:23] <jcsackett> rick_h_: thanks.
[13:23] <bac> go ~yellow
[13:23] <rick_h_> :)
[13:43] <jcsackett> bac: looking at a diff of yours now. you want to hangout when i've read it?
[13:44] <bac> yes, please
[13:47] <jcsackett> bac: this is incorporating the work you've been doing for the demo into the charmworld base, yeah?
[13:47] <bac> y
[13:48] <jcsackett> awesome.
[13:48] <jcsackett> one sec, lemme find a headset and i'll send you a hangout.
[13:53] <jcsackett> bac: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/gwcncgfm72mxid5ajoocxnc2cua?authuser=2&hl=en
[13:57] <bac> sorry jon, i'd gone to get a tea
[13:57] <bac> joining
[13:58] <bac> jcsackett: ^^
[13:59] <redir> bac: can I bug you about locations.conf and setting up bzr later? after your call
[14:00] <bac> redir: sure
[14:09] <bac> hi redir
[14:11] <redir> yo
[14:12] <redir> wanna hangout bac?
[14:13] <bac> redir: sure.  paste an url here
[14:13] <bac> redir: we have seven minutes before the keynote
[14:13] <redir> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/gshmjqp7flvrgad5bny2rybvwua?authuser=3&hl=en
[14:20] <rick_h_> reminder marks' keynote is coming up next
[14:20] <rick_h_> jujugui ^
[14:21] <rick_h_> jujugui no machine view, but should be cool
[14:21] <redir> where's the keynote?
[14:21] <redir> link...
[14:22] <rick_h_> https://www.openstack.org/home/Video/
[14:22] <redir> jujugui^
[14:22] <redir> tx
[14:22] <bac> so we're running a little late...
[14:22] <rick_h_> yea
[14:24] <bac> go solidfire!
[14:48] <kadams54> *fingers crossed*
[14:49] <bac> yay, the layout worked.
[14:50] <hatch> :-D
[14:54] <hatch> wow
[14:56] <redir> great work guys, you all rock
[14:56] <kadams54> Yeesh
[14:56] <bac> no spoilers.  i've got about a 20 second lag. :)
[14:56] <rick_h_> hah
[14:57] <kadams54> My "yeesh" was mostly the thought of using juju across centos, ubuntu, and windows. Craziness.
[14:57] <hatch> rofl
[14:58] <rick_h_> lol
[14:59] <kadams54> Anyone know if Mark's going to be demoing anything at the November 3rd summit in Paris?
[15:00] <bac> jujugui: standing up nowish?
[15:01] <rick_h_> bac: rgr, on my way
[15:16] <redir> what was that short lpad thing? lpad.in/something
[15:22] <rick_h_> hmm, not sure.
[15:22] <rick_h_> I'd just stick the url in there, it's all good
[15:22] <redir> already done
[15:33] <bac> redir: for the lightweight co set up, this is all i need in my locations.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7458051/
[15:43] <hatch> jcastro when I click the up button on HN the button just goes away, does that mean i've voted?
[15:43] <rick_h_> hatch: yep
[15:43] <rick_h_> you're good
[15:43] <jcastro> yes
[15:43] <hatch> (shitty UX)
[15:43] <hatch> :)
[15:43] <hatch> thx
[15:43] <jcastro> we were on the front page, now we're at the top of the 2nd page
[15:44] <hatch> must have moar clicks!
[15:44] <redir> hatch: that is hacker new not ui designer news
[15:44] <redir> s/new/news
[15:45] <jcastro> hatch, if it makes you feel better their search also sucks!
[15:45] <hatch> lol
[15:46] <redir> rick_h_: let me know if there is enough context in the merge request attached to that card
[15:46] <rick_h_> redir: rgr will do
[15:47] <rick_h_> my new amt ready intel nucs arrived so now trying to swap hardware so I can send back the first set :)
[17:03] <hatch> marcoceppi any progress on the GH to LP stuff for charms? I'd like to get the Ghost charm in the store
[17:19] <kadams54> jcsackett: Got some questions for you when have some time…
[17:23] <marcoceppi> hatch: I should be getting a proof of concept for my sync stuff by end of week
[17:24] <marcoceppi> got derailed getting more charms in to trusty
[17:28] <redir> thansk for the pointers bac, I have a working lightweight checkout now...forgot I had installed cobzr some time ago and had to  remove i t...
[17:33] <bac> redir: great.  stab cobzr.
[17:36] <kadams54> hatch: I caught up on some of last night's backlog when I came in this morning but was wondering: what's the latest with https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/316 ?
[17:39] <kadams54> Awesome. I can consistently crash juju-gui:develop in Canary to the point of needing a kill -9.
[17:39] <kadams54> Tab won't even close
[17:49] <rick_h_> kadams54: hatch is out today. I'm going to work on mering the two branches and see if we can get them landable.
[17:49] <rick_h_> kadams54: what's up?
[17:50] <kadams54> That branch has a lot of overlap with my stuff so I just want to make sure I coordinate
[17:52] <rick_h_> kadams54: ok. I'll be a bit. So just take a peek and we'll try to get yours in and update to match.
[17:53] <kadams54> Yeah… I'm actually working in Jeff's branch right now, so if you setup your own branch let me know so I can track the changes there.
[17:53] <rick_h_> k
[17:56] <rick_h_> redir: is qa still bin/enque followed by ingest?
[17:57] <redir> rick_h_: make run and in a diff window
[17:58] <redir> ./bin/es-ingest IIRC
[17:58] <redir> let me double check
[17:58] <rick_h_> bac: is bin/enque used any more? Looks like --debug got removed but the code using it didn't catch up
[17:58] <rick_h_> redir: es-update?
[17:58] <rick_h_> well that's just the fulltect update
[18:00] <redir> rick_h_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7458731/
[18:01] <rick_h_> gotcha, yea I think bin/enqueue is gone and just hadn't been removed
[18:01] <bac> rick_h_: it may be used by the charm.  ingest-queued now does the big enqueue does as stand-alone
[18:01] <rick_h_> I've got too much old knowledge of how it used to work in my head
[18:01] <redir> rick_h_: I've got too much ignorance.
[18:01] <rick_h_> bac: well bin/enque just fails because there's a if args.debug
[18:01] <rick_h_> but no debug
[18:01] <redir> It is bliss:)
[18:01] <rick_h_> arg is left
[18:02] <rick_h_> so guess the charm isn't using it either
[18:02] <redir> big report:)
[18:02] <redir> s/big/bug
[18:02] <rick_h_> bug even
[18:03] <bac> rick_h_: no, charm isn't using it
[18:03] <rick_h_> bac: rgr, thanks for peeking
[18:07] <kadams54> rick_h_: when you get the chance, we should talk more about Jeff's branch and my card. I *think* my card may be resolved within the branch, but I can't verify in the current state.
[18:07] <rick_h_> kadams54: ok
[18:07] <rick_h_> shoot me a link
[18:08] <kadams54> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/gw7gremxriufe4kurfpnffyo3ya
[18:09] <redir> rick_h_: when are your comp/swap days
[18:09] <rick_h_> redir: when are mine? someday
[18:09] <rick_h_> not sure atm
[18:11] <redir> k
[18:24] <redir> how many charms are there?
[18:24] <hatch> ~200
[18:25] <rick_h_> 350 ish last I looked
[18:25] <hatch> but that number is a little odd because there are charms for different series which are the same, and then a lot that aren't in the store
[18:25] <hatch> oh wow that many? it's grown fast
[18:25] <redir> k. importing them in core-store to try reproducing a bug and up to 378...
[18:26] <redir> just wondering if it is near the end.
[18:26] <rick_h_> probably near it, but with trusty and such maybe not :)
[18:43] <rick_h_> redir bac: is there something to wipe the index? running es-update I get pyelasticsearch.exceptions.ElasticHttpError: (400, u'MapperParsingException[Analyzer [n3_20grams] not found for field [ngrams]]')
[18:44] <BradCrittenden> rick_h_: yes, let me look, though redir may have it handy
[18:45] <bac> rick_h: this should work: http DELETE 'http://localhost:9200/charms'
[18:45] <rick_h_> bac thx, retrying
[18:46] <jcsackett> bac: why do you keep becoming BradCrittenden?
[18:46] <bac> jcsackett: connection drops for a tiny bit, irc reconnects but sees 'bac' is already taken
[18:47] <bac> irc nick timeout is greater than my outage time
[18:47] <jcsackett> huh; i don't actually see you disconnecting/reconnecting.
[18:48] <rick_h_> bac has quit from #juju-gui ; Ping timeout: 252 seconds
[18:49] <bac> jcsackett: i can get momentarily booted when a large, norovirus incubator goes by
[18:50] <redir> 521 charms...
[18:50] <rick_h_> woot
[18:51] <jcsackett> bac: ... airplane?
[18:52] <redir> cruiseship
[18:56] <bac> jcsackett: i wouldn't want to be on that airplane
[18:56] <jcsackett> ah.
[18:56] <jcsackett> that makes more sense
[18:57] <rick_h_> redir: bac man I'm having all kinds of issues trying to ingest and get stuff loaded. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7458986/
[18:59] <rick_h_> I'm going to EOD soon, but just fyi, I'm trynig to get things down to QA and having a series of elasticsearch issues.
[19:00] <rick_h_> hmm, bet that's from the clearing of the db
[19:01] <bac> rick_h_: that exception you pasted is in the 'save' method in the error handling section.  so saving threw an error and the corrective action is to delete the charm, which then errored b/c it did not exist.  i've never seen that before.
[19:01] <rick_h_> another restart going without errors
[19:02] <rick_h_> bac: yea, I got impatient and tried to kill stuff and do qa without letting ingest finish
[19:02] <rick_h_> probably left stuff in a bad place
[19:02] <bac> oh
[19:02] <rick_h_> starting over again
[19:02] <bac> that error handling could be more robust
[19:02] <rick_h_> anyway, will let it run tonight while I'm out and hopefully be good tomorrow
[19:02]  * rick_h_ runs away a little bit early today. have a good night all
[19:03] <redir> rick_h_: k
[19:03] <redir> have a great eve
[19:32] <redir> what's a QA day?
[19:33] <redir> and what's an exploratory qa day
[19:33] <redir> ?
[19:33] <hatch> redir a day where it's your job to find a bug in the GUI
[19:33] <hatch> find & file
[19:33] <hatch> we used to adhere to it pretty strictly, but lately it's been too much of a cram :)
[19:33] <jcsackett> oh shit, i was supposed to do that today.
[19:33] <redir> hmmm
[19:33]  * jcsackett makes note to find a bug tomorrow.
[19:34] <redir> like just take a day and use the gui looking for bugs?
[19:34] <redir> what is the diff btwn qa and exploratory qa?
[19:38] <hatch> redir exploratory qa means you have to go and try and break the app
[19:39] <hatch> do things in different ways, pretend you're a user who doesn't know what's going on etc
[19:39] <hatch> redir not really the day, just part of the day
[19:39] <redir> tx, hatch
[19:40] <hatch> you'll be surprised what you find when you try and use the app in unintended ways :)
[19:40] <hatch> and with all the work that's been landing lately we no doubt created some bugs :)
[21:05] <rick_h_> oops, I had that on my stand up list to talk to jcsackett about and he wasn't there so missed it
[21:07] <BradCrittenden> hatch: who were you schooling on red velvet?  http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/14/dining/red-velvet-cake-from-gimmick-to-american-classic.html
[21:07] <hatch> haha I don't remember
[21:07] <hatch> huw I think
[21:08] <hatch> oh man it needs to rain here
[21:08] <hatch> so dusty
[21:08] <bac> bah, take ours
[21:08] <hatch> gladly take some :)
[21:09] <bac> it comes with car-alarm-setting-off thunder too
[21:12] <hatch> hah sounds like your shock sensor is a litttle too sensitive
[21:13] <hatch> that landscape cloud builder thing is pretty darn cool
[21:13] <hatch> I'm re-watching the keynote heh
[21:21] <bac> hatch: not my car.  all of the other cars on the street...
[21:21]  * bac walkies
[21:21] <hatch> ahhh - is car crime bad there?
[21:22] <bac> ha, all crime is bad here
[21:22] <bac> not my little enclave, though
[21:23] <hatch> haha ok
[21:23] <bac> it also helps to not be a drug dealer or gang member.  for some reason they tend to be overrepresented in the statistics.
[21:27] <kadams54> guihelp https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/320 is ready for a look-see. It's a WIP so not yet ready to land.
[21:28] <hatch> bac lol
[21:30] <hatch> kadams54 does it work?
[21:30] <kadams54> Yes
[21:30] <hatch> no units should fire a change event by default
[21:30] <hatch> because they are just objects
[21:30] <hatch> or did my wip branches land?
[21:31] <kadams54> No, your WIP branch did not land
[21:31] <kadams54> But I've seen it so I know placeUnit will revive the unit :-)
[21:31] <kadams54> env.placeUnit() that is
[21:31] <hatch> ohh ok so the placeUnit has the changes in it to revive
[21:32] <hatch> cool
[21:32] <hatch> :)
[21:32] <kadams54> QA instructions include console commands to grab a unit, revive it, and then set the machine ID.
[21:32] <hatch> I'm not really set up atm to do any qa/reviews
[21:32] <hatch> just glanced through
[21:33] <hatch> what do you think of your smart updater stuff being able to diff the old list and new list and updating the tokens which need updating
[21:33] <hatch> that would be my preference....of course that's going to be more work to implement
[21:33] <hatch> :)
[21:36] <kadams54> I agree that function needs to handle changes and not just the current additions/deletions
[21:36] <kadams54> But I think there's still a need for a function that can just hit a single machine in the list
[21:37] <hatch> you think so?
[21:37] <kadams54> Yeah, I was talking with rick_h_ earlier and there are going to be a lot of events that update/change a single machine
[21:37] <hatch> what I'm thinking is that at scale, we'll want to batch the changes in the UI
[21:39] <kadams54> Seems like, even if changes were batched, you'd still need a way to update a single token
[21:39] <hatch> I suppose this could actually be used by the smart renderer
[21:39] <hatch> yeah


[02:15] <citizenruin> whats up
[02:16] <citizenruin> is kbuntu more stable then xubuntu
[02:20] <kepa> xfce is the most stable desktop environment
[02:20] <kepa> still using gtk2
[02:21] <kepa> enough said
[02:30] <markc> liftoff -1  :)
[02:34] <markc> re kate 15.12.1 when using sftp kio... whenever I got to open a new file the filename/ is appended to the path which produces a popup warning saying the file or path does not exist etc. Is there a workaround or setting I am missing to avoid this behavour?
[05:55] <konrados> morning :)
[05:56] <konrados> I would like to be able to click with a middle button on an application on the taskbar to close it (close the application), how can I achieve this?
[06:08] <vorap> Hey
[06:09] <vorap> Could someone send me the name of kubuntus off-topic chat I'm on my phone and I can't find it
[06:11] <vorap> Nevermind, I found it
[07:05] <_shaun_> will bash ever overcome this wrapping long line to the same line issue?   its been happening for many years now
[07:07] <valorie> _shaun_: not a Kubuntu issue at all
[07:08] <valorie> you might ask in #bash
[09:06] <_shaun_> the same thing has just happened in zsh now, i launched zsh using bash
[09:08] <_shaun_> ill try zsh on its own, and remove the flawed in my perception bash out of the equation
[09:34] <viewer|66685> -.-
[09:43] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[09:56] <jubo2> G'morning BluesKaj
[09:56] <jubo2> Hur går det i Sverige?
[09:57] <jubo2> Quelqu'un..
[09:57] <jubo2> Prins Phillip? har fåt bébén n'est pas?
[09:59] <BluesKaj> hi jubo2, I'm in Canada
[09:59] <jubo2> BluesKaj: but one more royal kid in Sweden no?
[10:00] <BluesKaj> yes, apparently
[10:00] <jubo2> non ascending one
[10:01] <jubo2> Victoria will be queen and Estelle after her
[10:01] <jubo2> When Carl Gustav Bernadotte calls it quits
[10:05] <jubo2> I describe Canada as "Bordering with USia and Nordic"
[10:06] <hateball> How come in the case of #kubuntu and #kubuntu-offtopic, the channels are reversed
[12:36] <shane_> Sorry folks, but I'm about to put kubuntu down like a rabid dog. Screen flicker is out of control. suspend lasts maybe 12 hours, dolphin can't drag and drop files to a browser, nor can it recall how to submit samba credentials to a network drive, and bluetooth can't send audio
[12:36] <shane_> I just don't see how this level of OS issues hasn't created a firestorm in the community....
[12:37] <shane_> I love kde, but it just doesn't work.  And it's possible that I'm just a kernel upgrade away from solving half of my issues
[12:39] <shane_> Thinkpad T460s - Intel gpu
 Firestorm?
[12:43] <BluesKaj> shane_, which release?
[12:49] <pat_rick> hello all
[12:50] <pat_rick> I'm suffering from some annoying wifi issues, anyone got some experience with that?
[12:50] <pat_rick> apparently, my connection speed randomly (and quite often) slows down to a crawl and I would like to find out why
[12:51] <shane_> 16.04 beta - each batch of updates seems to bring more issues. ie. bluetooth worked great!  and now, it will find and connect, but audio stops playing as soon as I switch to the BT device. Starts again when I stop bluetooth
[12:51] <shane_> screen flicker driving me crazy
[12:52] <BluesKaj> shane_, gpu and audio chip?
[12:55] <BluesKaj> shane_, for official 16.04 supoport joiin #ubuntu+1 btw
[12:55] <pat_rick> the issue seems limited to my Kubuntu (15.10) installation, it works fine in Windows (dual-boot here) and on my Laptop currently running Mint 17.3, so I suspect it's a driver issue
[12:56] <sithlord48> shane_:  try different render mode for desktop effects in system settings -> display compositor
[12:57] <sithlord48> g'morn BluesKaj
[12:57] <BluesKaj> 'Morning sithlord48
[12:58] <sithlord48> pat_rick: kubuntu and mint most likley are using the same drivers...
[13:00] <shane_> sithlord48: I've tried them all. Sadly, it seems to get worse with each update.
[13:00] <BluesKaj> pat_rick, we need to know the wifi chip on the problematic machine
[13:00] <sithlord48> shane_:  what video card do yo uhav?
[13:01] <M3mphiZ> Can Kubuntu be expected to be released at the same time as Ubuntu 16.04?
[13:01] <pat_rick> sithlord48: they are on different hardware, so maybe not
[13:01] <sithlord48> pat_rick: they you shoun't compair the two
[13:02] <BluesKaj> M3mphiZ, yes, tomorrow
[13:03] <pat_rick> BluesKaj: I'm using a USB adapter from d-link (dwa 131), it's based on the Realtek RTL8188cu, afaik
[13:03] <sithlord48> does upgrade from 14.04 -> 16.04 work right ? if not ill install fresh didn't last time i tried
[13:03] <sithlord48> pat_rick: did u check the driver manager in system settings.. iirc the realtek wifi cards perfer the propitary driver
[13:04] <pat_rick> sithlord48: I just mentioned my Mint installation to point out that the network is working fine with other pcs, just not this one
[13:05] <pat_rick> sithlord48: I'm not offered different drivers in the settings, the card was detected out-of-the-box
[13:05] <pat_rick> I tried intalling the proprietary driver from the Realtek site, but the installation is not working right, at some time it stops with some error message
[13:06] <pat_rick> I suspect that it's not working with recent kernels, the drivers are ~3 years old
[13:06] <sithlord48> yeah sounds about right for propertary drivers...
[13:07] <pat_rick> compiling it myself didn't work either, obviously, but then again I'm a noob when it comes to this
[13:08] <sithlord48> humm this ubuntu forums post might be helpful for you pat_rick http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2173782
[13:09] <pat_rick> thanks, will read through it, sithlord48
[13:09] <sithlord48> seams like it could be an issue for some time now...
[13:13] <pat_rick> I had problems on older versions, too
[13:14] <pat_rick> since about 1 year or such, it's at least "working" out-of-the-box without the need to tell him manually which driver to use (which has been included in the frimware for some time, apparently)
[13:14] <pat_rick> I always had issues with my connection stalling out, but when it worked, it worked reasonably fast
[13:14] <sithlord48> its an improvement..
[13:15] <sithlord48> thats is what seams to be the problem .. have you check the power status of the card like in that thread.
[13:15] <pat_rick> since 15.10 however, I have this sloooooow connection suddenly
[13:15] <pat_rick> not yet
[13:15] <sithlord48> try 16.04 ?
[13:16] <sithlord48> its a newer kernel /driver that is going to help you more then anything
[13:16] <pat_rick> hm, it's a somewhat different issue, but it might be connected
[13:17] <pat_rick> interestingly, power management doesn't seem to work at all for me
[13:17] <pat_rick> I'm currently waiting for the release of 16.04 then I'm making the jump
[13:17] <sithlord48> pat_rick:  why? you can just upgrade it
[13:17] <sithlord48> release is tomorrow...
[13:17] <pat_rick> ah, already
[13:18] <pat_rick> but I'm usually prefering a clean install, doesn't take much longer and I had usually better experience with it
[13:18] <sithlord48> so get a daily iso and use that to install fresh
[13:19] <sithlord48> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/
[13:20] <sithlord48> pat_rick:  at very least booting in to live mode should tell you if the wifi driver will be better or not as you should be able to use it from there
[13:20] <pat_rick> I guess the changes will be minimal then if release is tomorow, will check out
[13:21] <chron1cle> does running the daily set up different repos for newer packages?
[13:21] <sithlord48> no
[13:22] <sithlord48> the daily is made daily from the packages . so that you are always mostly up to date on that realease . dailys stop after the release and they move to the next release
[13:23] <sithlord48> so when X is released daily builds will stop and they will start for Y when the repo gets set up for it
[14:50] <Guest1971> Hi there - I just had a weird issue that has come up with other distros as well, but I have no idea how it happens. After a suspend (or a hibernation, not sure), my laptop (Lenovo X1 Carbon) awakens with all of the text in certain applications (usually Firefox and pidgin, sometimes others) scrambled, with lots of characters missing. Only a reboot fixes it. I haven't had this issues with Unity or Cinnamon on Mint, but on Kubuntu and other distros with KDE. Any
[14:50] <Guest1971> ideas what is happening?
[15:12] <shane_> sithlord48: Intel HD 520
[15:13] <sithlord48> shane_:  try openGL 2.0 and GLX and log out and back in .. should help with flicker
[15:47] <tomorrow> Hello when tomorrow the new KUBUNTU 16.04 LTS will be released?
[15:47] <tomorrow> Which hour UTC?
[15:48] <marco-parillo> Generally 2300 or so.
[15:48] <Pici> heh
[15:49] <tomorrow> Ok...but servers will break down for so.many download no?
[15:49] <Unit193> Use torrents?
[15:50] <Pici> there are many mirros
[15:50] <Pici> *mirrors
[16:07] <ENOSPC> I noticed that after changing my login password that kwallet was no longer automaticly opening on login, I tried closing the wallet and changing its password to my new login password, but its still not opening at login. any ideas on how to get that going agian?
[16:14] <swipe> kwallet is a nightmare
[16:17] <ENOSPC> I dont have a lot of issus with it.. (unlike gnome-keyring and its broken ssh-agent)
[16:18] <swipe> you could try deleting your salt file but you'll have to save all your passwords again
[16:19] <ENOSPC> export to xml blow away kwallet and reimport?
[16:19] <swipe> worth a shot
[16:25] <BluesKaj> I just disable kwallet sonce it's such a pita
[16:25] <genii> ..or give it an empty pass
[16:26] <ENOSPC> if I gice it a empty pass is the data still encrypted?
[16:26] <ENOSPC> s/gice/give/
[16:26] <genii> Yes
[16:27] <ENOSPC> I think I will do the export / clear / import first, I want to keep it around so I can save my wifi passwords and such
[16:29] <ENOSPC> if its encryped without a password there must be a key around somwhere, right?
[16:36] <shane_> sithlord48: will do now. will let you know
[17:04] <mayhew> Running 16.04, is there an easy way to make the scrollbars smaller?
[17:11] <swipe> hi, anyone know if the neon project is going to make live its stable version in line with kubuntu 16.04
[17:12] <swipe> ?
[17:24] <win10hatr> so what do i need to download to install an iso onto my system?
[17:36] <barmaley> who stole my cookies?
[17:41] <robbie2> Hi
[17:43] <BluesKaj> hi
[17:44] <Gregor3000> win10hatr: use torrent if you can as it checks the ifle integrity durign download. otherwise any browser download will do just make sure you do the md5sum check in the end.
[17:50] <marco-parillo> zsync will also checksum. Gregor3000 but some ISPs seem to throttle torrents
[17:50] <marco-parillo> zsync will also checksum. Gregor3000 is of course correct, but some ISPs seem to throttle torrents
[17:51] <Gregor3000> exactly. some ISPs give users a hard time....
[17:52] <BluesKaj> been using  zsync the few iso's and they were all successful , definitely worth a try
[17:53] <BluesKaj> last few
[17:59] <robbie2> Hi
[17:59] <robbie2> Anyone here??
[18:00] <robbie2>
[18:00] <robbie2> PLEASE
[18:00] <robbie2> someone aneswer
[18:01] <robbie2> pls
[18:01] <robbie2> plz
[18:01] <marco-parillo> !ask
[18:01] <robbie2> :(
[18:03] <robbie2> back
[18:04] <robbie2> !patience
[18:04] <robbie2> !minecraft
[18:06] <robbie2> !say
[18:08] <robbie2> Oh no
[18:08] <robbie2> !hi
[19:14] <ENOSPC> hmm on kubuntu 16.04 I keep seeing plasmashell disapper with this in the .xsession-errors "org.kde.plasma.pulseaudio: Attempting connection to PulseAudio sound daemon" over and over until "GLib-ERROR **: Creating pipes for GWakeup: Too many open files"
[19:16] <ENOSPC> after this plasmashell continues to die if I restart it, unless I logout and back in
[19:49] <ENOSPC> ohhh.. my bug might be caused by my extensive use of firejail.. trying out a fix now
[21:24] <telegram1> Clifford was added by: Clifford
[21:50] <user|41446> If I install now the 16.04 beta 2 is it like
[21:51] <clivejo> user|41446: Id wait until release
[21:51] <neanderslob> hi all, where can I submit bugs related to kubuntu?  I checked the wiki and it only mentioned how to report bugs relevant to specific applications
[21:51] <user|41446> If I install now the 16.04 beta 2 and update is it like to install tomorrow the 16.04 released
[21:51] <clivejo> neanderslob: depends what the problem is related to
[21:51] <neanderslob> clivejo: I went for it to avoid the rush and it's certainly stable enough for me to get my work done on it
[21:52] <clivejo> neanderslob: whats the bug regarding?
[21:52] <neanderslob> clivejo: one is the audio volume settings
[21:53] <clivejo> have you checked Launchpad to see if the bug has been reported?
[21:53] <neanderslob> clivejo: yep! (though a good recommendation)
[21:54] <clivejo> if its actual KDE software we post the bugs to KDE directly
[21:55] <neanderslob> clivejo: ah, very good
[21:55] <clivejo> https://bugs.kde.org/
[21:55] <clivejo> can you descript what the bug is?
[21:56] <neanderslob> clivejo: so all those bugs on launchpad are relevent to kubuntu-specific applications?
[21:57] <clivejo> they can be all different issues, but some bugs are due to upstream (KDE) software
[21:57] <neanderslob> got it
[21:58] <clivejo> and some are cause by how we (Kubuntu) puts it on top of the Ubuntu base system
[21:58] <neanderslob> so the particular bug: the volume settings say "No Output devices available" but the audio works just fine
[21:59] <neanderslob> actually on the initial install, the volume controls also worked; they stopped after I ran an upgrade
[21:59] <neanderslob> I haven't dug much deeper than that yet
[22:00] <clivejo> in System Settings>Hardware>Audio what do you see?
[22:00] <clivejo> its under Multimedia
[22:01] <clivejo> might be just not using the correct hardware
[22:01] <neanderslob> yea, same error message as above
[22:02] <neanderslob> however I can control it just fine through alsa in the terminal
[22:02] <clivejo> where did you upgrade from?
[22:03] <neanderslob> just ran a sudo apt-get upgrade, would you like me to check my sources.list?
[22:03] <clivejo> what release did you come from?
[22:03] <clivejo> like wily?
 cat /etc/os-release
[22:03] <neanderslob> OOOH, na I just did a fresh install
[22:04] <clivejo> ah
[22:04] <neanderslob> I always try do-release-upgrade on ceremony and it always throws errors for me (probably because I always go from lts to lts)
[22:05] <neanderslob> when I said I ran an upgrade and it stopped working, I was talking about a standard sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:05] <valorie> well, lts > lts upgrades are only supported in the .1 release
[22:05] <valorie> usually a month or six weeks after the initial release
[22:05] <valorie> LTS users are after stability after all, so that first bugfix is a good time to upgrade
[22:06] <neanderslob> ah, well there you have it
[22:06] <neanderslob> valorie: thanks for the explanation
[22:06] <valorie> if you want to upgrade upon release, tell your upgrade manager "all new releases"
[22:06] <valorie> instead of just LTS > LTS
[22:06] <clivejo> I’ve never had much trouble with audio, so I’m not familiar with this problem.  But it does seem odd that it worked then stopped after the upgrade
[22:07] <clivejo> valorie: its a new install
[22:07] <clivejo> audio was working then stopped on apt upgrade
[22:07] <valorie> !sound
 did you try Audio and Video settings
[22:07] <valorie> when I have sound issues, I usually work through that troubleshooting page
 maybe it switched to using the HDM output if you have it
[22:08] <neanderslob> clivejo: I think they were just explaining my whining about do-release-upgrade
[22:08] <valorie> sometimes it's a kernel module not being loaded or so
[22:08] <clivejo> arron: getting the message  "No Output devices available"
[22:08] <valorie> sometimes also has muted something
[22:08] <valorie> alsa
[22:08] <clivejo> but able to control via alsa terminal
[22:08] <neanderslob> valorie: alsa works very well
[22:09] <neanderslob> valorie: the problem isn't that I'm not getting sound; I am.  The problem is that the gui control isn't working
[22:09] <neanderslob> not recognizing existance of output devices etc
[22:10] <valorie> yes, I read what you said, but do not know the cause
[22:10] <valorie> could be kmix, could be pulseaudio, etc.
[22:10] <valorie> linux sound is so complicated, with so many layers
 try alsamixer in konsole and see if something is muted
 the right audio interface might be picked
[22:11] <neanderslob> valorie: is this new kde mixer still based on kmix?
[22:12] <valorie> I believe so, but I'm a bit out of touch with the multimedia folks
[22:12] <valorie> sorry, afk for now
[22:12] <clivejo> neanderslob: personally I think its a config issue
[22:13] <clivejo> but as for fixing it, I dont know
[22:13] <neanderslob> telegram1: interesting idea, could you tell me what I'd be looking for?
[22:13] <neanderslob> clivejo: alright, fair enough
[22:14] <clivejo> neanderslob: BTW telegram is a bot, its a Telegram <-> IRC bridge
[22:15] <neanderslob> clivejo: ah, yea I was just beginning to suspect that
[22:15] <clivejo> the second user <athoneycutt> is the one saying that :)
[22:20] <clivejo> !info plasma-pa
[22:20] <clivejo> !info plasma-pa xenial
[22:23] <clivejo> neanderslob: what version of plasma-pa have you installed at the moment?
[22:23] <clivejo> > dpkg -s plasma-pa
[22:24] <neanderslob> hah, thanks
[22:24] <neanderslob> Version: 4:5.5.5-0ubuntu1
[22:27] <clivejo> have you two volume icons?
[22:27] <neanderslob> in the system tray? nope just one
[22:27] <faqq> hi
[22:28] <clivejo> hi faqq
[22:28]  * clivejo scratches head
[22:29] <neanderslob> clivejo: well that was nice of them to pop in and greet us
[22:30] <clivejo> who?
[22:30] <neanderslob> oh, faqq's random hi (thought that was what you were scratching your head at)
[22:30] <faqq> mmm?
[22:30] <clivejo> Im scratching about your audio issues!
[22:31] <faqq> m'sorry
[22:32] <clivejo> I know at the start of the testing for Xenial there was an issue with both kmix and plasma-pa being installed which showed two icons
[22:32] <clivejo> but thats been ironed out a while now
[22:32] <valorie> yes, my double disappeared without me doing anything about it
[22:33] <clivejo> plasma-pa is the package responsible for that volume control plasmoid
[22:33] <valorie> oops, still afk
[22:33] <valorie> lol
[22:33] <clivejo> which is why I checked to see which version you had
[22:33] <clivejo> 5.5.5 is the correct version
[22:33] <neanderslob> i suppose that's good news of a sort
[22:34] <clivejo> when you menu click over the little icon and go to "Audio Volume Settings"
[22:34] <clivejo> in the Config tab
[22:34] <faqq> what's about radeon drivers?
[22:35] <neanderslob> says "No Additional Configuration Available"
[22:35] <neanderslob> all those tabs have their own version of "No ____ available"
[22:37] <clivejo> in your kickoff menu can you type "pa" and launch the Pulse Audio Volume control
[22:38] <neanderslob> that's interesting, not getting pulse audio's volume control
[22:40] <neanderslob> though pulse audio seems to be installed
[22:41] <clivejo> can you try creating a new user and see if audio works while logged in as that user?
[22:42] <neanderslob> sure, one moment
[22:42] <neanderslob> gotta close out of the other stuff I'm working on
[22:42] <clivejo> sorry
[22:42] <clivejo> just wondering if its a local user config or global
[22:47] <neanderslob> alright, logging out now
[22:51] <neanderslob> clivejo: Alright, I switched over to the new user and the volume control IS working
[22:51] <clivejo> so its a local config problem
[22:52] <neanderslob> should also note (on the off chance that it provides information) that the volume control on my original account is red, instead of the dark gray like the rest of the icons
[22:53] <clivejo> red mean mute on mine
[22:53] <clivejo> the icon of a speaker with two sound waves on it?
[22:54] <neanderslob> that's the one
[22:54] <clivejo> do you have a system mute button?
[22:54] <neanderslob> like on my keyboard? yea
[22:54] <clivejo> tried that?
[22:55] <neanderslob> no, though I have tried the volume buttons and nothing
[22:55] <neanderslob> let me switch back over to my "problem account" unless you'd like me to do anything on the new one first
[22:55] <clivejo> you can switch accounts to save you relogging into IRC
[22:58] <chron1cle> is there a trick to making gmail work in kmail?  Find that kinda funny.
[22:59] <neanderslob> clivejo: good point, but too late
[22:59] <clivejo> chron1cle: https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/3466521?hl=en
[23:01] <keithzg> chron1cle: Works fine for me but I went to https://myaccount.google.com/security and toggled the "allow less secure apps" option on, which I vaguely remember is necessary for IMAP access.
[23:01]  * keithzg is also still on 14.04, admittedly . . . pondering whether to update today or not
[23:01] <chron1cle> sitting on 15.10 at the moment
[23:02] <chron1cle> think i did that but ill give it a try
[23:02] <neanderslob> clivejo: alright,  so would I be correct in guessing that there might be something in my .kde directory that's imposing outdated settings on the audio controlls in this version of kde?
[23:02] <clivejo> neanderslob: Im thinking .config/pulse
[23:02] <clivejo> but I really dont know
[23:02] <keithzg> chron1cle: And you've definitely enabled IMAP access in Gmail's settings? (Just making sure we cover all the basics first)
[23:03] <clivejo> chron1cle: less secure apps link is here - https://www.google.com/settings/u/0/security/lesssecureapps
[23:03] <chron1cle> keithzg: yep just checked that
[23:03] <neanderslob> clivejo: well that's a good place for me to start trying stuff
[23:04] <clivejo> neanderslob: I would remove that and re-log and see what happened
[23:04] <keithzg> chron1cle: Hmm. And you're definitely using the same settings in kmail as detailed in https://support.google.com/mail/troubleshooter/1668960 ?
[23:06] <keithzg> I mean, I do see "Ubuntu" listed in my list of apps that have access to my full Google Account, not sure if that's KMail or not though.
[23:07] <chron1cle> keithzg: yep. I dont have their two step turned on either, and i tried the insecure button you mentioned. still getting 'Login failed, server replied: A000002 NO Please log in via your web browser: https://support.google.com/mail/accounts/answer/78754'
[23:08] <chron1cle> keithzg: which i am logged in. lol.
[23:09] <clivejo> chron1cle: when I setup Gmail in Kmail I needed to generate an app password for Mail - https://security.google.com/settings/security/apppasswords
[23:09] <clivejo> you then use that password instead of your main Google account password
[23:10] <clivejo> from within Kmail
[23:11] <clivejo> I named it Kubuntu 16.04 and gave it Mail access
[23:11]  * chron1cle kicks google. "Your browser is not supported" Firefox 45.0.1
[23:11] <chron1cle> :|
[23:11] <keithzg> clivejo: Interesting, I definitely didn't have to do this, but the last time I did this config from scratch was almost a year ago. Just checked it myself though and it says "The setting that you are looking for is not available for your account." for me.
[23:11] <chron1cle> I'm gonna try that once I get google to stop judging my browser choice
[23:11] <clivejo> keithzg: I have two factor access on my Gmail
[23:12] <clivejo> so didnt want to disable that for IMAP access
[23:12] <clivejo> but if I make Kmail login with that token as the password it works :/
[23:13] <keithzg> clivejo: Ah, fair enough. Yeah, I don't have that since Google's text messages have been . . . inconsistent in actually arriving for me (sometimes entire months have gone by where they never have when I've had to use them) so I don't trust 2-factor that way.
[23:14] <neanderslob_> clivejo: got it, seems to be the .config/kmixrc settings
[23:14] <neanderslob_> thanks for the help!
[23:15] <clivejo> it working?
[23:16] <chron1cle> Thanks everyone. I had to turn on 2 step, and then set up an app password for google to stop blocking it.
[23:16] <chron1cle> idk why but it works now so i'll live with two step. lol
[23:18] <clivejo> neanderslob: is it working?
[23:18] <neanderslob> clivejo: hey, sorry, irc client was getting all wonky (too much logging on and off again)
[23:18] <neanderslob> clivejo: yea it's working
[23:18] <clivejo> neanderslob: :)
[23:18] <neanderslob> .config/kmixrc seemed to be the culprit (don't know if you got that message)
[23:19] <clivejo> yeah I did
[23:19] <neanderslob> many thanks; much appreciated
[23:19] <clivejo> never seen that problem before, but glad you got it fixed
[23:19] <clivejo> need to go to bed, night all!
[23:20] <chron1cle> night clivejo
[23:20] <chron1cle> thanks
[23:20] <chron1cle> and thank keithzg as well
[23:25] <keithzg> chron1cle: no problem, just glad it worked out for you in the end :)
[23:41] <hazamonzo> Hey folks. Might be a silly question but is there a recommended SSH manager tool avilable so that i can save SSH connections and so on. Save me having to write scripts?
[23:42] <hazamonzo> Also, Hello!
 <hazamonzo>: you could bookmark the connection in konsole?
[23:58] <lucas_> hi
 Hi lucas_


[02:23] <tmarble> fabbione: what happened to hw ssl accel?
[02:24] <fabbione> tmarble: drowning with my son's diapers
[02:25] <tmarble> ah yes, the joys of fatherhood!
[02:25] <fabbione> i have been away 3 weeks for paternity leave and i will be away another 2 weeks starting from monday
[02:25] <fabbione> and there is feature freeze while i will be away
[02:25] <fabbione> that means no ssl accelerator yet
[02:25] <tmarble> is the edgy release date set in stone?
[02:25] <fabbione> yeps
[02:26] <tmarble> can you share that date?
[02:26] <fabbione> iirc 20 Oct
[02:26] <tmarble> independently how is the MAU work going (i.e. do you need/want any help)?
[02:26] <fabbione> let me check
[02:26] <fabbione> it's on the wiki
[02:26] <tmarble> no worries
[02:26] <fabbione> October 26th
[02:27] <fabbione> we are having some problems with edgy silo/kernel
[02:27] <tmarble> thanks
[02:27] <fabbione> at least on Niagara
[02:27] <fabbione> it seems to be ok on other machines
[02:27] <tmarble> 2.6.17+?
[02:27] <fabbione> yeps
[02:27] <fabbione> and we need to boot a test dapper kernel on the new hardware rev2 of the T2000
[02:27] <tmarble> hrmmmm what seems to be the problem?
[02:27] <fabbione> since it seems that the hw upgrade breaks
[02:27] <fabbione> silo 1.4.12 in edgy doesn't boot at all
[02:28] <fabbione> silo 1.4.10 + .17 are having some personaility issues and trashing memory where the initramfs is loaded
[02:28] <tmarble> that seems particularly antisocial
[02:28] <fabbione> that makes the system basically unbootable
[02:28] <tmarble> and that hurts our customer satisfaction ratings ;-)
[02:29] <fabbione> well it's edgy
[02:29] <fabbione> i am more annoyed about dapper
[02:29] <tmarble> why?
[02:29] <tmarble> the memory thing?
[02:29] <fabbione> because there has been a new hw release and we haven't been notified for certification
[02:29] <fabbione> no, silo and kernel booting is only edgy
[02:29] <fabbione> but the dapper kernel doesn't recognize the new rev 2 of the T2000
[02:30] <tmarble> if it makes you feel any better I pushed the hw guys so hard before (w.r.t. Ubuntu) that they, um, are not being super responsive
[02:30] <fabbione> they did move the sas controller from a PCI-something slot to onboard
[02:30] <fabbione> well we will see
[02:30] <tmarble> so it sounds like silo needs to recognize rev2 and do something differently?
[02:31] <tmarble> how can I help?
[02:32] <fabbione> hmm no i think i didn' t explain myself properly
[02:32] <fabbione> dapper:
[02:32] <fabbione>  rev2 hw needs kernel love
[02:32] <fabbione> edgy:
[02:32] <fabbione>  silo and kernel needs love for memory corruption
[02:32] <fabbione> (loading the initramfs)
[02:33] <tmarble> do you (and David Miller) have rev2 hw?
[02:33] <fabbione> nope
[02:33] <tmarble> that doesn't help, does it?
[02:33] <fabbione> we both have rev 1 with sas controller on PCI
[02:33] <fabbione> nope it doesn't
[02:35] <fabbione> it would be enough for us if somebody can  boot a test kernel
[02:35] <tmarble> I presume rev1 can be upgraded?  do you know if if it's a field upgrade?
[02:35] <fabbione> no i don't think you can
[02:35] <fabbione> it means changing the entire motherboard
[02:36] <tmarble> so, if I get my hands on a  rev2, and you give me the test kernel, then I give you the output....
[02:36] <fabbione> exactly
[02:36] <fabbione> or somebody that has it
[02:36] <fabbione> it just need a fast netboot
[02:36] <fabbione> and grab the console output
[02:36] <fabbione> nothing more
[02:37] <tmarble> ok
[02:37] <tmarble> I supposed to take today and tomorrow off, but I'm going to send a couple e-mails and see what I can get
[02:39] <tmarble> will you have e-mail access during paternity leave?
[02:40] <fabbione> unlikely
[02:40] <tmarble> in that case can you give me the bits to the test kernel now?
[02:40] <tmarble> and any instructions (beyond netboot/capture console)
[02:49] <fabbione_> feh
[02:49] <fabbione_> did you write anything?
[02:50] <tmarble> you vanished?
[02:50] <tmarble> I asked for the bits to the test kernel before you go on leave (if possible)
[02:52] <fabbione__> GO INTERNET!
[02:52] <fabbione__> yes i can make the kernel for you
[02:53] <tmarble> he's back?
[02:53] <fabbione__> i will prepare it by tomorrow
[02:53] <tmarble> great
[02:53] <fabbione__> if it last
[02:53] <tmarble> don't forget any other instructions or details that I would need to get you what you need
[02:53] <fabbione__> just netboot really
[02:53] <fabbione__> nothing more
[02:53] <tmarble> ok
[02:53] <fabbione__> and grab all the output
[02:57] <tmarble> so, to summarize, the kernel needs help
[02:57] <tmarble> and silo needs to be updated
[02:57] <tmarble> I assume that edgy would get the latest kernel
[02:58] <tmarble> if a fix is found for the kernel -- would you use that latest kernel for dapper?
[02:58] <tmarble> what is the impact of having (or not) SAS controller on PCI?
[03:09] <fabbione> dapper will still have .15 with the fix for rev2 of the hw
[03:09] <fabbione> edgy needs to get a proper silo/kernel
[03:10] <fabbione> without the fix for the rev2 you can't install
[03:32] <tmarble> ok... i have to run now... I'll try and get access to some rev2 hardware.....
[03:32] <tmarble> thanks for the tips and I'll do what I can
[03:33] <fabbione> thanks
[03:33] <fabbione> take care
[03:33] <tmarble> you too (enjoy fatherhood!)
[03:33] <fabbione> thanks


[03:11] <mup> Bug #1442446 was opened: 1.8b1: selecting multiple filtering properties returns all  servers that match at least 1 property <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442446>
[03:17] <mup> Bug #1442446 changed: 1.8b1: selecting multiple filtering properties returns all  servers that match at least 1 property <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442446>
[03:23] <mup> Bug #1442446 was opened: 1.8b1: selecting multiple filtering properties returns all  servers that match at least 1 property <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442446>
[10:06] <mup> Bug #1442552 was opened: DHCP/DNS not syncing <canonical-bootstack> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442552>
[10:12] <mup> Bug #1442552 changed: DHCP/DNS not syncing <canonical-bootstack> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442552>
[10:18] <mup> Bug #1442552 was opened: DHCP/DNS not syncing <canonical-bootstack> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442552>
[11:12] <mup> Bug #1442575 was opened: power_change_failure() does not handle NodeStateViolation and NoSuchNode <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442575>
[14:01] <ravenpi> Good morning, all.  As noted in https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1401703 , I have 15 nodes that I'm trying to deploy, and 2 of them correctly saw their 1 TB disks.  The other 13 report 1 GB disks.  Based on the discovered data (see link), I'm kind of assuming that MAAS "found" the PXE install partition -- either that, or the 1 GB is completely bogus.  Is there a way to specify which drive to provision with?
[14:19] <mup> Bug #1423721 changed: prefix_filter for probe-and-enlist for virsh/esxi doesn't create nodes with the hostname equal to the domain name <MAAS:Won't Fix by mpontillo> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1423721>
[14:19] <mup> Bug #1442360 changed: 1.8b1: Cannot add machine Missing Power Type <oil> <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442360>
[15:29] <serverascode> anyone know why the install would be asking to continue without a default route?
[15:32] <ravenpi> Could you flesh out that question some?  Install of what?  Is it actually *asking* about a default route, or is it asking to continue, and you simply haven't added one?  As I understand it, the clients don't care -- they get to use the MAAS master as a proxy (Squid, port 8000).  The MAAS master, itself, probably needs one.
[15:33] <ravenpi> [Note that I'm far from an authority on this -- just bumped my toes against some of that stuff recently, and think -- hope -- I have an understanding of it.)
[15:34] <serverascode> when a node is started, it goes through the install procedure, but in my case I need to manually click yes to being ok with continuing without a default route
[15:35] <serverascode> I'm guessing that dfault route is supposed to come from maas somewhere...?
[15:35] <serverascode> perhaps something is misconfigured...just not sure what it would be
[15:35] <ravenpi> Oh.  That, I don't know the answer to.  :(  Yeah, you're able to push the default route from MAAS.  Lemme take a quick peek.
[15:36] <serverascode> not that they even need a default route...
[15:36] <ravenpi> Clusters -> Cluster Master -> click edit icon for interfaces -> Router IP
[15:38] <serverascode> ok yeah that makes sense, thanks ravenpi :)
[15:38] <ravenpi> Pleasure's mine!
[17:44] <mup> Bug #1442742 was opened: 1.8b2 Incorrect power on/off actions on node details <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442742>
[17:56] <mup> Bug #1442742 changed: 1.8b2 Incorrect power on/off actions on node details <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442742>
[17:59] <mup> Bug #1442742 was opened: 1.8b2 Incorrect power on/off actions on node details <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442742>
[17:59] <mup> Bug #1442746 was opened: 1.8b2 Add hardware journey not consistent with add devices <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442746>
[18:10] <saltlake> experts, I am looking for some help on deplying openstack: I knwo this is the problem in this area from the syslog http://pastebin.com/B5du7hDU.. exactly this like that deplyment starts but the controller node fails to get the results.. I just don't know what and I would very appreciate if anyone could throw some light on it. I think one problem coud be "if a node commissioned on the maas server has 2 NICs : Port
[18:10] <saltlake>  1->connected to provate network and Port 2 connecte to the public network... I was expecting Port 2 to get a dhcp address on the public LAN but don't see that happening .. What do I need to do for that ?
[18:15] <serverascode> hi all, how does one do classes of servers in maas? as in I want associate a disk layout with a particular class of servers
[18:20] <serverascode> saltlake: do you have any more logs, I'm no expert but I can't see anything that helps from those logs
[18:29] <mup> Bug #1442754 was opened: 1.8b2 No UI feedback on "power on" action <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442754>
[18:39] <saltlake> serverascode : Yes I have more of the syslog
[18:40] <saltlake> serverascode : http://pastebin.com/EdZW3dyv
[18:40] <saltlake> Any help on this would be so useful I am just unable tp proceed and stuck on what seems like something basic !!
[18:54] <serverascode> saltlake: and what is the problem your having exactly?
[18:55] <saltlake> serverascode : What happends is I start a juju boostrap on the maas controller node. On the maas web page I see one node change to "Deplying" and eventually it "Fails deplyment" and juju bootstrap after several minutes exits saying "Boot strapped but failed to deploy"
[18:56] <serverascode> but you can insatll nodes ok?
[18:56] <saltlake> serverascode : On the maas controller the 3 nodes aer successfully commisioned.
[18:57] <saltlake> serverascode : But juju bootstrap OR openstack-install with the landscape option both fail the same way.
[18:57] <serverascode> hmm, yeah I don't know anything about juju so I don't think I can help you there
[18:57] <saltlake> SO something is wrong with my setup.
[18:57] <saltlake> serverascode : Can you tell me if my network is setup properly though ?
[18:58] <serverascode> being able to commission is a good sign I suspect
[18:58] <saltlake> Each node is on 2 networks 1. private and commissioning is happening through this. 2. On the public network and I am wondering why this one does not get a dhcp address
[18:59] <saltlake> is there a guide you have handy to install openstack on ubuntu ?
[19:01] <serverascode> there are lots of guides including what's on the openstack site in terms of instlling on ubuntu 14.04
[19:01] <serverascode> http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt/content/
[19:07] <saltlake> serverascode : This does not use maas at all
[19:13] <saltlake> serverascode ; Just curious: Have you used the steps at http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt/content/ without maas and has it worked out ?
[19:24] <serverascode> saltlake: there are as many ways to install openstack as there are people :) yes I run openstack but don't use juju, but if you like juju then I think you should continue on, I just can't personally help you b/c I don't use juju
[19:28] <saltlake> serverascode : I have not got anything working with openstack and have no experience with it and am looking for the shortest path to success .. :-) thanks I will try your link now
[21:38] <mup> Bug #1442807 was opened: 1.8beta1: Attempting to release a node that's already releasing results in an error <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442807>
[22:07] <serverascode> anyone on how to add a class of hw to maas? is it done through the architecture somehow?


[06:32] <nik90_> morning :)
[06:33] <mihir> morning nik90_:)
[06:34] <kalikiana_> moin moin
[06:39] <pkunal-parmar> balloons, hi
[06:40] <balloons> pkunal-parmar, hello good sir.
[06:40] <pkunal-parmar> I was looking into this bug
[06:40] <pkunal-parmar> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1291225
[06:40] <pkunal-parmar> so what I observer was when Date is coming from QML is getting converted to UTC time zone
[06:40] <pkunal-parmar> but when we create date in python test case
[06:41] <pkunal-parmar> date is local time zone
[06:41] <pkunal-parmar> so its autopilot issue or we should fix our test case ?
[06:45] <justCarakas> Good morning all :D
[06:46] <balloons> pkunal-parmar, let me have a look.
[06:46] <pkunal-parmar> ok, thanks
[06:47] <balloons> pkunal-parmar, it's odd that timezones should have an affect with that test
[06:48] <pkunal-parmar> yes, initially it was working fine, I believe its facing this issue after we upgraded AP or Python
[06:48] <balloons> we should look at the current test as the bug is a bit old. My guess is olivier is correct of course
[06:48] <pkunal-parmar> I was able to fix if, I convert every date object coming from QML to local time zone
[06:49] <balloons> vthompson, ahayzen  here's the link to apparmor as we spoke about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Specifications/ApplicationConfinement#Launching_applications
[06:49] <ahayzen> balloons, thanks
[06:49] <vthompson> balloons, excellent!
[07:02] <dpm> mzanetti, rpadovani, morning! This SRU should fix the Reminders performance bug on the desktop, it's just been uploaded to trusty-proposed if you want to test it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtdeclarative-opensource-src/+bug/1303746/comments/12
[07:07] <dpm> actually, it seems it was uploaded about an hour ago and it's not yet in trusty-proposed, so we might have to wait for a bit
[07:14] <balloons> pkunal-parmar, https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/ubuntu-calendar-app/assert-with-utc/+merge/220379
[07:15] <pkunal-parmar> ok
[07:53] <mhall119> kenvandine: http://www.slideshare.net/andreasc/how-can-html-compete-with-native?ref= slide 29
[08:20] <pkunal-parmar> balloons ,     tomorrow = (now + datetime.timedelta(days=1)).day
[08:20] <pkunal-parmar> AttributeError: type object 'datetime.datetime' has no attribute 'timedelta'
[08:22] <balloons> pkunal-parmar, yes, I got overzealous with my imports
[08:22] <balloons> I fixed it :-)
[08:22] <pkunal-parmar> ok
[08:52] <rpadovani> kalikiana, I fixed the bug about label in calculator app :-)
[09:07] <kalikiana> rpadovani: how did you fix it?
[09:08] <balloons> rpadovani, yes, try it. autolanding with the device should be on for calculator
[09:08] <rpadovani> kalikiana, I added a mouse.accepted = false in onPressed in a Mouse Area
[09:09] <rpadovani> balloons, have I to set someone has reviewer?
[09:09] <rpadovani> kalikiana, before there was only propagatedComposedEvents = true and this used to work until unicor
[09:10] <kalikiana> ah, so it was consuming the events
[09:11] <rpadovani> yes
[09:17] <ybon> bzr mamma mia
[09:17] <ybon> I wonder if I'm using the right workflow to merge trunk in my branch
[09:17] <ybon> is that ok "bzr merge lp:ubuntu-calendar-app" to merge trunk in my AgendaView branch?
[09:18] <ybon> it mess up the "{", plus I need to commit manually, plus when I do commit the commit message is already typed with an old one from Alan
[09:23] <rpadovani> ybon, well, you have to do a separate branch, then do a merge request. Jenkins will do the merge after the approval
[09:23] <rpadovani> ybon, bzr commit -m 'Description of modifications'
[09:24] <ybon> rpadovani: I'm trying to update my branch, as it has been asked to me
[09:24] <rpadovani> ybon, so bzr push lp:~ybon/calendar-app/nameofthebranch
[09:25] <ybon> but is "bzr merge" the way to merge trunk into my branch?
[09:25] <ybon> or you are saying that I need Jenkins and a merge request to update my branch?
[09:26] <nik90_> bzoltan: do you know when https://code.launchpad.net/~bzoltan/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/landing_2005/+merge/220203 is landing? I really need the alarm fix MP :)
[09:27] <bzoltan> nik90_: I have few failing tests like http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7496631/ and I want to make sure they are not UITK related
[09:27] <rpadovani> ybon, ah, sorry, I didn't understand. Yes, bzr merge lp:calendar-app is the right way if your branch has diverged
[09:27] <nik90_> bzoltan: ah okay. cool
[09:27] <rpadovani> ybon, otherwise, bzr pull lp:ubuntu-calendar-app
[09:27] <ybon> rpadovani: ok thanks for the confirmation
[09:28] <ybon> so sadly it seems bzr merge algorithm has some bug :s
[09:28] <ybon> is there any difference between bzr pull and bzr merge in this case?
[09:29] <rpadovani> ybon, mhh what's bug?
[09:30] <ybon> "{" messed up in the merge
[09:30] <rpadovani> oh, I see
[09:30] <rpadovani> ybon, so, before do bzr merge you need to commit all changes
[09:31] <ybon> I've done that :)
[09:31] <nik90_> bzoltan: heads up, there are currently some AP failures due to https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/fix1321222-select_all_when_selected/+merge/220237. It could be related to the failures that you see. I noticed it in the clock app yesterday.
[09:31] <rpadovani> mhh, could you paste a file with messed {, please?
[09:33] <bzoltan> nik90_: thanks
[09:35] <vthompson> t1mp, zsombi_, et al, would it be at all expected for the TextField component to fire the "accpted" signal twice when enter is pressed on either the keyboard or OSK?
[09:35] <zsombi_> vthomson: no, it shoudl come only once
[09:36] <ybon> rpadovani: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7496666/
[09:36] <ybon> see last Tab
[09:36] <ybon> it's included in Tab before
[09:36] <vthompson> zsombi_, assumed as much. There are issues in the Shorts app that is causing test failures because their onAccepted handler is called twice and validation of the text field fails
[09:36]  * ybon in a meeting for 30 min
[09:37] <vthompson> zsombi_, I have an example here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7496653/
[09:53] <vthompson> zsombi_, I filed a bug for it so I can document it in the workaround in the Shorts app: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1321680
[09:55] <rpadovani> ybon, ok, I can confirm this, I tried by myself and I have the same error.  The only suggestion I can give you is to take last trunk version and then apply manually your modification, sorry!
[09:56] <rpadovani> ybon, I talked also with popey and mhall119 and seems it's easiest thing to do, sorry!
[09:57] <pkunal-parmar> balloons, I now know what is the issue with MonthView and other, pls come over to my place once you are free
[09:57] <zsombi_> vthompson: thx, I'll take a look on it!
[09:59] <dpm> dholbach, ok, looks good, thanks! http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/core-apps-sponsoring/ <- rpadovani, popey, now the commit message provides some more context on each MP
[10:00] <dholbach> dpm, de nada
[10:06] <rpadovani> dpm, dholbach looks beatiful, thanks :-) But... the title of the column ;-) https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-sponsoring/fix-title-core-apps-sponsoring-fixes/+merge/220417
[10:10] <dpm> rpadovani, applied your branch and updated the page, thanks! ;) http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/core-apps-sponsoring/
[10:25] <ybon> rpadovani: ok, thanks (but gasp)
[10:25] <ybon> any plan to switch to git at some point? #notroll
[10:29] <rpadovani> ybon, I don't belive so, bzr works well and is well integrated in lp
[10:30] <ybon> ok
[10:31] <ybon> rpadovani: again no troll, but just my thoughts as new contributor: using a more common and approved version system would help lower the barrier for contributing
[10:32] <ybon> thanks for your help and infos, anyway, rpadovani :)
[10:36] <rpadovani> ybon, yes, but bzr is historically here, well, launchpad and bazaar are older than git, and now all Ubuntu work is based on bzr, so isn't a good idea to change now :-)
[10:36] <rpadovani> Sorry, launch time, see you soon
[11:44] <popey> nik90_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7497046/
[12:00] <dpm> mzanetti, rpadovani, I think we'll have to postpone the Reminders meeting this week, as we've got another conflicting meeting today
[12:01] <dpm> We might still be able to move it to tomorrow or some other day
[12:01] <mzanetti> dpm: we should probably move it for good... seeing you have something conflicting every week
[12:01] <dpm> yeah, good point
[12:03] <mzanetti> dpm: btw aWeSoMoN added the loadHtml() already
[12:03] <rpadovani> sounds like an awesomo thing!
[12:03] <mzanetti> :D
[12:04] <dpm> \o/
[12:06] <popey> rpadovani: https://code.launchpad.net/indicator-datetime
[12:07] <pkunal-parmar> rpadovani, http://doc.qt.digia.com/qtmobility/qml-organizeritem.html#itemId-prop
[12:08] <pkunal-parmar> you can fetch Event using
[12:08] <pkunal-parmar>             var requestId = -1;
[12:08] <pkunal-parmar>             model.onItemsFetched.connect( function(id,fetchedItems){
[12:08] <pkunal-parmar>                 if(requestId [12:08] <pkunal-parmar>                     internal.parentEvent = fetchedItems[0];
[12:08] <pkunal-parmar>                     updateRecurrence(internal.parentEvent);
[12:08] <pkunal-parmar>                     updateContacts(internal.parentEvent);
[12:08] <pkunal-parmar>                 }
[12:08] <pkunal-parmar>             });
[12:08] <pkunal-parmar>             requestId = model.fetchItems([e.parentId]);
[12:16] <kalikiana> zsombi: commits http://feeds.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/revisions.atom and bugs http://feeds.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/latest-bugs.atom
[12:16] <zsombi> kalikiana: thx!!!!!
[12:24] <ahayzen> balloons, adb shell cp -r /usr/share/click/preinstalled/com.ubuntu.music/current/lib /opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.music/current/
[12:38] <elopio> zsombi: I made a mp with the first test. Please take a look.
[12:38] <zsombi> elopio: where's that?
[12:38] <nik90_> balloons: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phablet-tools/+bug/1321463
[12:38] <elopio> zsombi: https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/pullToRefresh-test1/+merge/220439
[12:41] <balloons> pkunal-parmar, join #ubuntu-autopilot
[12:41] <nik90_> balloons: http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2014/02/click-buddy-and-you-how-to-test-your.html
[12:41] <pkunal-parmar> ok
[12:54] <nik90_> mzanetti: regarding bug 1321746, it is a duplicate of bug 1319401. Can you confirm?
[12:54] <nik90_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1319401
[12:55] <mzanetti> nik90_: hmm... not sure
[12:55] <mzanetti> nik90_: maybe its a side effect of the same issue, yes
[12:55] <mzanetti> but I guess there's a small chance it's caused by something else
[12:56] <mzanetti> nik90_: if you think its a duplicate, feel free to mark it so
[12:56] <mzanetti> you know the code better than I do
[12:56] <nik90_> mzanetti: well can you try creating an alarm for later and set a different day? If it works, then it is definitely a duplicate
[12:56] <mzanetti> fair enough
[12:58] <mzanetti> actually no... that doesn't rule it out... as the whole check for later than now is satisfied in that case
[12:59] <mzanetti> regardless of the date
[12:59] <mzanetti> nik90_: but feel free to mark it as duplicate. it's indeed quite likely its the same thing
[12:59] <mzanetti> when fixing, it just make sure to test both use cases
[13:00] <nik90_> mzanetti: will do
[13:00] <nik90_> mzanetti: thnx for the report
[13:01] <ahayzen> nik90_, have you used or know of an app that has used the search in the new header?
[13:05] <pkunal-parmar> balloons, https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/Autopilot_Fix_TIMEZONE
[13:09] <pkunal-parmar> t1mp, hello
[13:12] <pkunal-parmar> t1mp, I am facing some issue with new header, can you help ?
[14:03] <nik90_> renato: https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-datetime/+bug/1321775
[14:25] <mihir> pkunal-parmar: ping
[14:25] <mihir> pkunal-parmar: i have pushed the changes as per our last discussion
[14:27] <pkunal-parmar> ok, I will check
[14:30] <mihir> pkunal-parmar: thanks :)
[14:31] <pkunal-parmar> welcome :)
[14:46] <zsombi> elopio: checked the MR, all looks fine, and we need one similar CDO for UbuntuListView, as that has pullToRefresh embedded.
[14:47] <zsombi> elopio: or do you see we coudl still use the PullToRefresh CDO to be used in those tests as well?
[16:03] <kalikiana> ahayzen: good and bad news wrt https://code.launchpad.net/~kalikiana/u1db-qt/indexRoles/+merge/211771 I wrote some unit tests and they all pass; also a new example with filtering and sorting - the bad news, the sorting in the example doesn't work despite all green tests… not sure why. in case you have any ideas, maybe you wanna have a look, something must
[16:03] <kalikiana> be differerent that I'm not doing in the tests or vice versa
[16:08] <ahayzen> kalikiana, cool thanks i'll have a look at it :)
[17:30] <AskUbuntu> How do I validate a click package for submission? | http://askubuntu.com/q/470223