[00:22] <ScottK> kees: You're welcome.
[00:39] <ScottK> slangasek: If you have a moment to help me figure this out, I'd appreciate it...  The second Kubuntu ports respin you did for me yesterday still had the packages that were removed from the seeds, but manifest shows the new kubuntu-desktop version.  Any suggestions?
[00:39] <ScottK> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ports/daily-live/20100405.2/
[00:43] <slangasek> task changes take 2 publishing cycles to propagate, did we respin too soon?
[00:43] <ScottK> slangasek: Probably.  I forgot about that when I asked you to respin.
[00:43] <ScottK> If it wouldn't be a problem, could I have another respin?
[00:44] <slangasek> running
[00:44] <ScottK> Thanks
[01:57] <slangasek> kees: is there any periodic review done of the packages in 'supported' that were requested by IS / Launchpad, to confirm there's still an internal need for sec support?
[02:17] <kees> slangasek: just what's done at UDS time with elmo
[02:17] <ScottK> Wasn't that just the server seed that was reviewed?
[02:17]  * ScottK recalls a session about that.
[02:28] <slangasek> there was a server review, yeah, which I don't think covers the python dev stuff
[02:43] <ScottK> No, it didn't.
[03:22] <ScottK> slangasek: Hooray! powerpc is not oversized anymore.  Thanks.
[03:23] <slangasek> \o/
[05:20] <kees> slangasek: is the publisher off?  (security updates aren't getting into the archive...)
[05:21] <ScottK> kees: IIRC there isn't normally a publisher run this hour.  Has it been going on for a while?
[05:22] <kees> ScottK: this hour (04:03) yes, but it seemed to miss the 03:03 run too.  maybe I just have bad luck
[05:22] <ScottK> There are two hours it misses and with the DST changes I don't remember which two.
[05:22] <ScottK> I think it would have been last hour and this one, but I'm not sure.
[05:23] <kees> 2? hm, that's new
[05:23] <ScottK> Or it could be it's after midnight here, I got up early, and I'm not remembering very well.
[05:23] <ScottK> Eventually slangasek will set us straight.
[05:55] <slangasek> kees: there's one hour when the publisher doesn't run because contents generation runs in its place; then there's the hour after that, when the publisher doesn't run because the contents generation job still holds the lock
[05:55] <slangasek> (I don't think it ever finishes within the hour)
[06:02] <kees> slangasek: ah, heh, so 05:03 won't run either.  meh
[06:56] <ara> morning :)
[11:23] <Riddell> hmm, /home/ubuntu-archive/public_html/germinate-output/kubuntu.lucid is over a week out of date
[11:26] <ara> Riddell, I am afraid that bug 556555 still happens :(
[11:29] <Riddell> ara: do you get a crash at the end of oem config ?
[11:30] <ara> Riddell, the first time it loops, no, the second time, yes
[11:35] <Riddell> ara: have you seen bug 557197 ?
[11:36] <ara> Riddell, I haven't. I will try to reproduce it
[11:50] <cjwatson> ara: I'm in the process of investigating that
[11:50] <cjwatson> (556555)
[11:50] <ara> cjwatson, nice, thanks
[11:51] <cjwatson> may be for final rather than b2 though
[11:51] <ara> Riddell, I cannot reproduce 557197
[11:51] <ara> cjwatson, I am glad to hear that ;-)
[11:52] <Riddell> ara: hmm, I hope I'm not just going mad then :)
[11:53] <ara> Riddell, ah, non-english, ok, let me try again
[11:56] <ara> Riddell, no, I cannot reproduce it either
[11:57] <Riddell> ara: hmm, so I am going mad
[11:57] <ara> Riddell, is there a bug about timezone selection being quite arbitrary?
[11:57] <Riddell> ara: what's arbitrary about it?
[11:57] <Riddell> it uses some geoip thingy to give you a local default if you have network
[11:57] <ara> Riddell, yes, but it does not work
[11:58] <ara> Riddell, in Ubuntu it places me correctly in Spain
[11:58] <ara> Riddell, in Kubuntu is either Argentina or sometimes Barbados
[11:58] <Riddell> hmm, are you routing your internet through random countries to avoid the MPAA? :)
[11:59] <ara> Riddell, hehehe
[11:59] <Riddell> ara: file a bug and assign to shtylman
[11:59] <ara> Riddell, ok, will do :-)
[12:00] <ara> Riddell, nice, found a new crash, filing it
[12:00] <Riddell> wibble
[12:03] <ev> ara: do note that there are two timezone setup bugs fixed with a new version of tzsetup in the queue.  It may fix the bug you're seeing if you have something like "Could not understand timezone" and a bit of XML data in your install logs.
[12:03] <cjwatson> ara: bug 556555: looks to me like that bug *is* fixed, but you are now experiencing a new one with similar symptoms which needs fresh logs attached ...
[12:03] <ara> cjwatson, ok, will do
[12:04] <ara> cjwatson, new bug? or the same one?
[12:04] <ara> ev, ok, will have a look
[12:04] <cjwatson> strictly speaking that bug should be marked as a dup and a new one filed - but it probably doesn't matter that much, go ahead and reuse that bug since it's yours
[12:05] <ara> ev, yes, that's the bug. Thanks!
[12:17] <ara> Riddell, I was able to reproduce bug 557197
[12:17] <ara> Riddell, so, sometimes, it reproduces
[12:17] <ara> Riddell, maybe a duplicate of 556376?
[12:17] <cjwatson> ev and shtylman were discussing that last night
[12:19] <Riddell> let's assume it is, I'll mark as duplicate
[12:23] <ara> Riddell, cjwatson: a new crasher in kubuntu. bug 557225
[12:25] <Riddell> ara: looks easily enough fixed that one
[12:25] <ev> ara, Riddell: just fixed that, actually :)
[12:26] <ara> cjwatson, now tell me that you fixed it yesterday :D
[12:28] <cjwatson> not I :-0
[12:28] <cjwatson> :-)
[12:29] <ttx> ara: hey, about the cloud image tests on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntuserver/all
[12:29] <ara> ttx, yes?
[12:29] <ttx> ara: they need to be refreshed, especially the EBSroot ones (0 tests active)
[12:29] <ttx> ara: smoser has the links to the testcases
[12:29] <ttx> ara: in brief, we want:
[12:29] <ttx> EC2/classic -> 2 testcases (multiple instance run, userdata/config)
[12:29] <ttx> EC2/EBSroot -> 2 testcases (multiple instance run, userdata/config)
[12:30] <ttx> UEC images -> 2 testcases (instance run, userdata/config)
[12:30] <ttx> ara: is it possible to change the tests live, or do you need some candidate respin to trigger that ?
[12:31] <ttx> (fwiw, we are considering a cloud image respin to go back to no-ramdisk, now that bug 531494 appears to be fixed)
[12:32] <ara> ttx, we can change them live
[12:32] <ttx> ara: ok, good. smoser will give you all the pointers when ready (he still ahs to update the UEC cloud image tests)
[12:32] <ara> ttx, ok
[12:34] <cjwatson> ttx: is it wise to switch to a new, unknown set of bugs, even if this one seems to have gone away?
[12:37] <ttx> cjwatson: EC2 images always shipped without ramdisk on previous milestones, so for EC2, that's actually a better known set of bugs
[12:38] <ttx> cjwatson: for UEC images you are right, though they were tested quite extensively before we hit that bug (which was a regression)
[12:38] <ttx> cjwatson: the trick is that we want consistency between the two types of images, and we also want to stick to whatever we come up with at beta2 time
[12:40] <ttx> We are just reluctant to drop all https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-lucid-cloud-krd for a temporary regression at beta1 time
[12:40] <ttx> But you obviously have the final call on this.
[12:44] <cjwatson> Riddell: germinate> thanks, fixed
[12:45] <Riddell> cjwatson: what what?
[12:46] <cjwatson> 11:23 <Riddell> hmm, /home/ubuntu-archive/public_html/germinate-output/kubuntu.lucid is over a week out of date
[12:48] <Riddell> oh aye
[13:05] <smoser> ara, ping.
[13:06] <smoser> at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntuserver/all can you please set up all the EC2 EBS items to have the same "Mandatory testcases" as the EC2 instance tests ?
[13:10] <ara> smoser, and that's it? ttx told me that url had changed or something
[13:10] <smoser> i think you already got the change in url taken care of
[13:10] <smoser> at least the "EC2 instance" tests point to the right place
[13:11] <ara> smoser, ok, will do it
[13:12] <ara> smoser, uec images remains as they are?
[13:14] <smoser> ara, 2 things on UEC
[13:14] <smoser> a.) I'd like it to say 20100407, not 20100406.1
[13:14] <smoser>  (the ec2 ids are from 20100407)
[13:14] <smoser> b.) add a "UEC Image instance user data" test
[13:15] <smoser> the explanation of that test is the same as at the existing test's link.
[13:16] <ara> smoser, alright
[13:29] <ara> smoser, does it look OK to you?
[13:30] <smoser> looks good ara thank you
[13:30] <ara> smoser, np
[13:43] <ttx> smoser: the 20100407 is no-ramdisk ?
[13:43] <smoser> let me verify, but yes
[13:44] <smoser> ttx, no.
[13:45] <ttx> smoser: so it's with-ramdisk ?
[13:45] <smoser> well, hold on
[13:45]  * ttx gets confused
[13:46] <smoser> yes, it has a ramdisk. looking into why
[13:46] <smoser> ttx, i goofed it up
[13:47] <smoser> ec2 has no ramdisk. uec does.
[13:48] <ttx> hm
[13:48] <smoser> yeah. hm.
[13:48] <smoser> i'll start another build.
[13:48] <smoser> its a 2 hour total process
[13:48] <ttx> yes, start it then :)
[13:49] <ttx> smoser: what is the most recent noramdisk UEC image, so that I test it ?
[13:49] <smoser> beta-1 is the only one left around.
[13:49] <smoser> were you looking to see failure ? or success ?
[13:50] <smoser> if you want to do some testing, i suggest just extracting tarball, and then recreating without the ramdisk
[13:50] <smoser> thats the only difference
[13:50] <smoser> then publish that tarball
[13:50] <smoser> or uec-publish-tarball --ramdisk=none
[13:50] <smoser> (which would have the same effect)
[13:51] <ttx> smoser: ok
[13:53] <smoser> ttx, 20100107.1 started.
[14:03] <james_w> bluez and pitivi can sit in the queue until after beta
[14:53] <ara> mdeslaur, hello
[14:57] <mdeslaur> hi ara
[14:58] <ara> hey mdeslaur, I have seen that you have reported 2 bugs in the netbook edition
[14:58] <ara> mdeslaur, any reasons to keep them private?
[14:58] <mdeslaur> ara: ah, no, hold on a sec
[14:59] <mdeslaur> ara: fixed
[14:59] <ara> mdeslaur, thanks :)
[15:00] <mdeslaur> np :)
[15:23] <smoser> ara, i'm sorry to bother you again. i missed one thing . *All* (EBS and instance) tests show "Multiple Instances Run" and "Single Instance Run".  They should show "Multiple Instance Run" and "User Data Test"
[15:24] <ara> smoser, but you told me that instance ones were OK :-)
[15:24]  * smoser curses his darn stupidity
[15:25] <ara> smoser, do they point to the same url?
[15:25] <smoser> yes. same url has both tests
[15:25] <smoser> just need to remove Single , replace with User Data
[15:26] <ara> smoser, ok, changing it now. I will put Single as archived testcase and create a new one, to avoid changing historical data
[15:28] <smoser> good.
[15:36] <ara> smoser, done
[15:39] <smoser> thanks ara.
[15:39] <ara> smoser, anytime
[16:12] <smoser> ara, in my never ending pain to you, a heads up.  We will want all 20100107 replaced with 20100107.1 and amis accordingly. that will be finished publishing in ~ 30 minutes i think.
[16:12] <ara> smoser, no problem, let me know when the amis are published and I will change everything accordingly
[16:14] <slangasek> ara: or I can take care of those
[16:15] <slangasek> (I just wrote a script to let me batch-load the AMIs from the .txt file, it needs its exercise)
[16:15] <ara> slangasek, ok, thanks. do you publish the UEC images as well, please'
[16:17] <smoser> slangasek, you got the new format of those files ?
[16:20] <smoser> slangasek, http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/lucid/20100407.1/ is available now
[16:22] <ara> smoser, slangasek: I will publish the uec one
[16:23] <ara> smoser, slangasek: uec images are now published
[16:27] <slangasek> smoser: "new" relative to what?  I used the script to publish the 20100406 candidates there
[16:27] <smoser> new relative to data that i replaced in all output over a week ago. so you're good.
[16:28] <slangasek> ok :)
[16:56] <doko__> slangasek: ping about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ant/+bug/555894
[16:56] <doko__> (not now)
[16:59] <slangasek> smoser, ara: ok, EC2 AMIs posted (thanks, that was useful for shaking bugs out :)
[17:00] <ara> slangasek, about the plymouth bug (the kubuntu crypto one), I tried the command you posted in the bug, but I still get the kubuntu logo one
[17:00] <slangasek> doko__: this doesn't follow the FFe checklist - please tell us what the risks are with taking the new version (new features introduced, etc)
[17:00] <slangasek> ara: oh, sorry - you also have to run 'update-initramfs -u' after
[17:00] <ara> slangasek, thanks :)
[17:01] <doko__> slangasek: is this relevant for a "new" package?
[17:02] <ara> aaraceli
[17:03] <ara> ooops, wrong window, glad I don't use a critical password for testing :D
[17:03] <slangasek> doko__: oh, ant1.8 will be packaged in parallel?
[17:05] <doko__> slangasek: yes
[17:05] <slangasek> doko__: ah - since you filed it on the existing 'ant' package, this wasn't obvious to me
[17:05] <doko__> liked it better there than with no package
[17:06] <slangasek> (btw, you didn't actually subscribe ubuntu-release to this :)
[17:06] <ttx> slangasek: given that bug 531494 was fixed, the server cloud images were switched back to noramdisk, looking good so far
[17:07] <doko__> oops
[17:07] <ttx> slangasek: Let me know if you have any concerns about that
[17:07] <slangasek> ttx: right, gathered that from scrollback - how long until you're confident this works completely?
[17:08] <ttx> By the end of the day
[17:08] <ttx> My testing is good so far, I think the feature deserves a beta2 milestone at that point
[17:08] <ttx> but we'll continue testing today to make sure
[17:09] <ttx> server ISO looks good
[17:09] <ttx> the only bug reported against it is in fact invalid
[17:09] <ttx> (and will be edited out as a user error)
[17:30] <slangasek> ara: lp:~ubuntu-archive/ubuntu-archive-tools/trunk/post-amis-to-iso-tracker.py is the script for batch-loading a set of AMIs onto the ISO tracker; currently the milestone ID is hard-coded so the next revision needs to extract this from http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/admin/addbuild, and you'll need to manually grab the login cookie for .qa.ubuntu.com and stow it in a file
[17:37] <ara> slangasek, ok, thanks
[19:25] <stgraber> slangasek: Edubuntu DVD image is missing edubuntu-artwork due to a conflict with ubiquity-ubuntu-artwork that we were seeding. I updated the seeds (rev 774) so a rebuild of the image should fix that.
[19:26] <stgraber> would be great if you could start a rebuild of it before beta2
[20:35] <slangasek> stgraber: running
[20:37] <stgraber> slangasek: thanks
[20:54] <ttx> slangasek: calling it a day, anything you need from me ?
[20:55] <ttx> slangasek: test coverage in progress, I'll cover the last holes tomorrow EU morning if any left
[20:56] <ttx> slangasek: the noramdisk cloud images are OK, so we should keep them
[21:02] <slangasek> ttx: looking good to me, thanks
[21:13] <stgraber> Uploading a new ldm-server that seems to fix bug 557519, if we are to rebuild the ubuntu alternate images, it'd be great to include that one
[21:17] <slangasek> Riddell, ev: is bug #557309 anything that will get attention for beta2?
[21:38] <smoser> ara, or slangasek i need some help.
[21:39] <smoser> i need the isotracker ebs ids updated .
[21:39] <slangasek> only ebs?
[21:39] <smoser> there was some snafu with the 20100407.1 original publication and i've fixed it.
[21:39] <slangasek> ok
[21:39] <smoser> yeah, only ebs had the issue.
[21:40] <slangasek> are the fixed AMIs documented in the usual place in the 20100407.1 dir?
[21:40] <smoser> yes
[21:40] <smoser> i moved the original one to .orig
[21:40] <smoser> (which is now showing up in the index)
[21:40] <slangasek> (any reason to keep that .orig around?)
[21:41] <slangasek> AMIs updated
[22:06] <lamont> slangasek: so... for the new bbg3 based boxes... you get your choice this afternoon... would you like acorn to be your new livecd-builder, or 4th bbg3 buildd (to go with buttercup, cushaw, and gould)?
[22:08] <slangasek> lamont: we definitely need a second livecd builder
[22:08] <slangasek> actually, now that we're building images for three subarchs, we could use a third :P
[22:22] <lamont> slangasek: I'm assuming we want the pegatrons to die, sooner rather than later, yes?
[22:30] <stgraber> just wondering, is something behaving weirdly with the archive ? I uploaded a package over an hour ago and didn't get any mail from LP yet (I'd have expected to receive a pending-approval e-mail)
[22:31] <lamont> slangasek: would you be so kind as to trigger a livecd build of some sort (armel) on acorn.buildd?
[22:32] <stgraber> that's for ldm_2.1.1-0ubuntu2 btw (fixing that bug I mentioned earlier)
[22:32] <lamont> for confirmation of working status only
[22:32] <lamont> well, after that you can do whatever you want with it
[22:45] <slangasek> lamont: pegatrons> I don't have an informed opinion
[22:46] <lamont> slangasek: we hate them all
[22:46] <lamont> so... that means that what I'll do is give you (1) porter, (2) livecd buildd, and (7) buildds
[22:46] <lamont> once the dust settles
[22:47] <lamont> in the meantime, if I didn't screw up setting up acorn, you have it and clementine for livecd fs builds, and clementine will get replaced with some other machine
[22:47] <lamont> I'm thinking 'satinash'
[22:48] <lamont> though the buildout finishing is currently blocked on a little bit of hardware
[22:49] <slangasek> /home/buildd/bin/BuildLiveCD: line 105: /home/buildd/public_html/BuildLive.out: No such file or directory
[22:49] <slangasek> lamont: ^^ acorn
[22:52] <stgraber> ok, now that's weird ;) I just re-uploaded that same ldm and it's now correctly waiting in the queue ... anyway, everything's good now.
[22:54] <slangasek> stgraber: no alternate rebuilds planned for beta2, but I'll keep ldm in mind
[22:59] <lamont> doh
[22:59] <lamont> clearly, it should mkdir -p ~/public_html
[22:59] <lamont> fixed
[23:00] <slangasek> thanks
[23:01] <slangasek> the actual call seems to still be running
[23:01] <stgraber> slangasek: Will Edubuntu build a daily at the usual time or is it on manual ?
[23:01] <slangasek> stgraber: everything's on manual for beta
[23:01] <lamont> apt-get -y --purge install minimal^ standard^ ubuntu-netbook^ linux-dove
[23:01] <lamont> yep
[23:02] <lamont> slangasek: and thanks
[23:02] <stgraber> slangasek: ok, I'm guessing the seed change (rev 774) should now have went through whatever it has to go through and so another rebuild should now include these changes ? (we currently don't have our artwork at all on the DVD images ...)
[23:03] <slangasek> stgraber: yes, another rebuild is already running :)
[23:05] <stgraber> great !
[23:07] <stgraber> slangasek: is there some way to know what revision of the seed is being used for the livefs build ?
[23:07] <slangasek> stgraber: no, but as discussed earlier on #ubuntu-devel, the issue was that seed changes that affect tasks take two publisher cycles before they show up in the archive
[23:08] <stgraber> ok, I'll be looking at it again now then because 20100407.1 is still going to be broken
[23:08] <slangasek> hmm, on that note, I didn't actually check that we /had/ anything published in the past two hours
[23:09] <stgraber> worst case we'll go without our artwork for beta2 as I'm not sure how fast I can figure out why ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu is still on our dvd ...
[23:10] <stgraber> (and edubuntu-artwork conflicts with it)
[23:30] <Riddell> slangasek: too late for bug 557309 for beta 2 but I've milestoned it for final
[23:32] <ScottK> queuebot seems to have gone quiet.


[00:29] <jdstrand> ogra_: fyi, snappy install ufw.jdstrand. enjoy :)
[02:07] <sergiusens> jdstrand, btw, I can't do $SNAP_APP_DATA_PATH in a `start` for a service
[02:33] <sergiusens> jdstrand, mind approving this later https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/3989/seq/1/ ?
[02:34] <sergiusens> and that also relates to the question about using $SNAP_APP_DATA_PATH
[03:36] <Sam_> : )
[07:36] <dholbach> good morning
[08:09] <fgimenez> good morning
[08:38] <pandatrone> what is this https://uappexplorer.com/app/ubuntu-kernel.mvo ???
[08:39] <mvo> pandatrone: its the next step on the road to 16.04, kernel and os snaps
[08:39] <pandatrone> mvo, awesome! i like it
[08:40] <mvo> pandatrone: yeah, I'm quite excited about it too, it will open up a lot of new possibilities :)
[08:40] <pandatrone> you snappy people are great
[08:40] <pandatrone> and mir people :D
[08:40] <mvo> heh, thanks :-D
[08:40] <pandatrone> i get 10-50% more fps in glmark2 in OTA8 compared to OTA5 on mx4
[08:41] <pandatrone> unity people are a little confused buy they'll catch up
[08:41] <pandatrone> *but
[09:14] <fgimenez> hi mvo good morning
[10:05] <mvo> hey fgimenez
[10:05] <mvo> fgimenez: sorry for the slow reply
[10:06] <fgimenez> mvo, np :) i was getting some errors from udf but now it seems to be working again
[10:06] <fgimenez> mvo, 254 is available already in jenkins
[10:07] <mvo> fgimenez: nice!
[10:14] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Thursday, and happy Use Less Stuff Day! 😃
[11:06] <shouting-sergius> sergiusens hello
[11:06] <shouting-sergius> balloons hello
[11:36] <sergiusens> dpm, mind approving https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/3989/seq/2/ ?  the failure there is due to an outdated reviewer tool being used
[11:38] <dpm> sergiusens, I haven't reviewed an app in quite a long time, so I'm not sure I'm the right person, but I'm sure dholbach or popey can help
[11:38] <popey> sure thing!
[11:38] <dpm> cool, thanks!
[11:42] <popey> sergiusens, done
[11:45] <sergiusens> popey, thanks, now balloons can use a snap instead for irc ;-)
[11:47] <livcd> so i'd like to use snappy as a base image with vagrant on mac  to run docker containers. Would it work for my use case ?
[11:47] <sergiusens> livcd, it should, there is a docker snap already, there are some gotchas, but I don't run docker myself to remember those
[11:48] <sergiusens> livcd, if you run into trouble, just ask (on askubuntu would be even better to keep some history and help others seeing the same you would)
[11:53] <shout-user69> popey thanks for approving me into existence :-)
[11:53] <popey> haha
[11:53] <popey> what have I done!!
[11:53] <livcd> sergiusens: not yet familiar with what a snap is :-)
[11:53]  * shout-user69 twiddles fingers
[11:54] <sergiusens> livcd, oh; a snap is a package
[11:58] <sergiusens> livcd, maybe go over the tutorials?
[11:58] <livcd> reading them atm
[11:59] <sergiusens> livcd, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/start/#vagrant
[11:59] <sergiusens> you can read and play at the same time ;-)
[12:17] <livcd> sergiusens: i'd like to build an img myself with packer
[12:18] <sergiusens> livcd, I can't help you there; if you drop your question on askubuntu maybe someone can help out
[12:22] <Chipaca> what's packer?
[13:11] <jdstrand> sergiusens: can you request a manual review?
[13:15] <jdstrand> beuno, pindonga: hey, can somone pull in the review tools? there are are fixes for sergiusens' failure and two others for clicks that popey and dholbach saw. This is not the branch for non-click/all snaps (that is in progress)
[13:16] <pindonga> jdstrand, what revno?
[13:16] <jdstrand> the latest is fine
[13:16] <jdstrand> r550
[13:16] <pindonga> we'll need to do some QA on staging before we can roll  it out (to verify all pending changes are good to go) but I'll plan for the rollout asap
[13:17] <jdstrand> thanks
[13:48] <sergiusens> Chipaca, I think packer is a vagrant thing
[13:48] <sergiusens> Chipaca, https://www.packer.io/intro/getting-started/vagrant.html
[14:52] <sergiusens> Chipaca, elopio mind looking at https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/pull/102 ?
[14:53] <elopio> sergiusens: oh good, I'll try to play with the nodejs bbb package again.
[14:53] <elopio> you have a copy&paste error: GoPluginTestCase
[14:58] <sergiusens> elopio, ah, interesting :-)
[15:00] <sergiusens> elopio, fixed, still not pushed, but 100% coverage is what I had to share with you :-P
[15:02] <sergiusens> dholbach, is the wiki completely dead?
[15:26] <dholbach> sergiusens, this morning I got a 500 internal server error, pinged IS and it came back again
[15:27] <sergiusens> dholbach, works now, thanks
[15:27] <sergiusens> mvo, ^^
[15:29] <jdstrand> sergiusens: hey, can you request a manual review for https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/3989/seq/1/?
[15:29] <jdstrand> mvo: hey, I'm going to remove click-apparmor from the system-image seed on xenial
[15:30] <sergiusens> jdstrand, what for, seq/2 is already approved
[15:30] <sergiusens> ?
[15:31] <jdstrand> ok, there is a 0.0.1
[15:31] <jdstrand> I'll reject that
[15:40] <mvo> jdstrand: thanks!
[15:53] <jdstrand> mvo: I'm also updating ubuntu-core-security to remove sc-filtergen and not pull in easyprof
[15:59] <mvo> jdstrand: nice, very very nice
[16:01] <faenil> hello
[16:01] <faenil> I'm trying to port snappy to a new board, but the image ubuntu-device-flash outputs has a partition table which is not recognized by either uboot or "Disks" app on Ubuntu
[16:02] <faenil> fdisk -l reports fat + 3 ext4 partitions
[16:02] <faenil> while "Disks" and uboot only see a huge fat partition, thus failing to access the data in any of the partitions
[16:03] <faenil> any advice
[16:03] <faenil> ?
[16:07] <faenil> ogra_: ^ maybe :)
[16:38] <sergiusens> faenil, what does parted say?
[16:39] <faenil> sergiusens: parted shows the partitions
[16:39] <faenil> gparted doesn't
[16:39] <faenil> "Disks" software doesn't
[16:39] <faenil> uboot doesn't
[16:39] <faenil> fdisk -l shows the partitions
[16:39] <sergiusens> faenil, does your u-boot support ext4?
[16:40] <faenil> sergiusens: I rebuilt it to add ext4 commands
[16:40] <faenil> sergiusens: still, gparted and Disks on desktop only show a big fat partition, like uboot
[16:41] <sergiusens> faenil, can you run `kpartx -avs <image.img>` ?
[16:41] <sergiusens> someone who can help with u-boot itself is lool
[16:45] <faenil> sergiusens: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13348638/ kpartx
[16:46] <faenil> sergiusens: I can loop mount the img on desktop, but not the sdcard (but I guess that's expected). I can still mount the fat partition from the sdcard using "-o offset"
[16:52] <sergiusens> faenil, has your 'dd' finished correcly (ins and outs match and all that)
[16:52] <sergiusens> sorry for asking a possibly dumb question
[16:52] <faenil> sergiusens: yeah
[16:53] <faenil> sergiusens: I tried multiple times, and with 2 different sdcards
[16:53] <faenil><PHONE_NUMBER> bytes (2.9 GB) copied, 162.81 s, 18.0 MB/s
[16:53] <faenil> (that's the size of the img)
[16:54] <sergiusens> faenil, parted against the sdcard is also fine?
[16:54] <faenil> sergiusens: what do you mean?
[16:55] <faenil> yes, "print" shows 4 partitions on the sdcard
[16:56] <faenil> gparted instead shows 1 partition as big as the sdcard, with "Unknown filesystem"
[16:56] <faenil> and lba flags
[17:21] <sergiusens> faenil, could this be a gpt problem?
[17:21] <faenil> sergiusens: I guess it could...
[17:24] <faenil> sergiusens: even though parted says "Partition Table: msdos
[17:27] <sergiusens> faenil, are you sure you are booting your u-boot and not whatever is on the board?
[17:27] <faenil> sergiusens: yes, 100%
[17:27] <faenil> the versions tells it
[17:28] <faenil> and I have ext4 commands available, which the original uboot for this board don't have
[17:29] <faenil> sergiusens: I defined
[17:29] <faenil> #define CONFIG_CMD_EXT4
[17:29] <faenil> #define CONFIG_CMD_EXT4_WRITE
[17:29] <faenil> is there anything else needed for ext4 support? that seems all it's needed, I had a look at README.ext4 in uboot's docs
[17:30] <longsleep> faenil: what u-boot version are you based on?
[17:30] <faenil> longsleep: 2015.4
[17:31] <longsleep> faenil: sounds good
[17:31] <faenil> should be, yeah :)
[17:31] <longsleep> faenil: i am stuck at 2011.3 :/
[17:31] <faenil> yeah, I guess most of the people are not that lucku
[17:32] <longsleep> faenil: not sure if it helps, but https://github.com/longsleep/u-boot-odroidc/commits/master is my u-boot tree to make the upstream u-boot work with snappy
[17:32] <faenil> sergiusens: the img was created using --oem beagleblack (because there doesn't seem to be any generic-armhf package and that's what the Porting guide recommends), using edge channel
[17:32] <faenil> but that shouldn't make a difference on the partition table, should it
[17:33] <faenil> longsleep: cheers
[17:36] <sergiusens> faenil, well if your board is exactly the same wrt to boot setup, then there you go
[17:36] <sergiusens> faenil, fwiw, I took a stance at updating the porting guide
[17:36] <sergiusens> faenil, https://gist.github.com/sergiusens/fa40a344ad4b395a99ed
[17:36] <sergiusens> still needs a review from ogra_ but he is off this week on leave
[17:37] <faenil> sergiusens: isn't there a list of oem snaps?
[17:37] <longsleep> faenil: in general, if u-boot fails its best to figure it out in u-boot shell, maybe your oem snap did overwrite some stuff of the partition table
[17:38] <faenil> longsleep: I wish there were a generic armhf oem snap :/
[17:38] <sergiusens> faenil, well you can search the store with `type: oem`
[17:39] <sergiusens> faenil, I always forget how to query the store though and we never baked that into u-d-f
[17:39] <faenil> sergiusens: hehe
[17:39] <faenil> anyway, there's no generic armhf oem snap :)
[17:39] <longsleep> faenil: mhm well, how can there be a generic one if all devices need other bootcode?
[17:39] <sergiusens> faenil, there is no such thing as a generic bootloader for arm ;)
[17:40] <sergiusens> u-boot is the closest you can get, but they all boot at different offsets
[17:40] <faenil> ok, sorry, I don't know what the oem snap contains so I'm just blind guessing ;)
[17:40] <longsleep> faenil: Look at https://github.com/longsleep/snappy-odroidc - that puts all the gear together to build u-boot, kernel, oem snap and device tarball for the ODROID-C platform
[17:41] <faenil> longsleep: ok, I'll have a look thanks
[17:45] <longsleep> sergiusens: Your porting guide looks good - i think that will help people a lot when its ready
[17:46] <sergiusens> thanks, still a bit to update wrt to uEnv.txt and others
[17:46] <faenil> sergiusens: longsleep beagleblack doesn't touch the partition table afact http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/snappy-hub/snappy-systems/files/head:/beagleblack/
[17:46] <longsleep> sergiusens: maybe you can add a section on how the initrd can be optained
[17:47] <longsleep> faenil: no, but it wites stuff raw at the beginning of the disk, see the boot-assets in the meta/package.yaml
[17:49] <faenil> longsleep: I see...is that snappy yaml syntax to do that?
[17:50] <longsleep> faenil: yes, when ubuntu-device-flash assembles the image, it writes the stuff under raw-files 'raw' at the specified disk offset
[17:50] <longsleep> faenil: what these offsets are actually depens where your arm device expects its bootcode to be
[17:50] <faenil> longsleep: sure
[17:50] <faenil> my question now is more generic :)
[17:50] <faenil> is that what happens when you "install" that snap?
[17:51] <faenil> I guess it's not something specific to device-flash
[17:51] <longsleep> faenil: nope, when you install a snap it essentially just downloads a special kind of deb package and extracts it to a well known location
[17:51] <longsleep> faenil: the special kind of snap with type oem, is used by u-d-f when you create a image for that platform
[17:51] <faenil> longsleep: so that raw stuff is a special direction that only udf will use?
[17:51] <faenil> ok
[17:52] <longsleep> faenil: yes, for now the boot-assets stuff is only used by u-d-f afaik
[17:52] <faenil> ok, thanks
[17:53] <faenil> longsleep: I guess my next step is to have a look at what you I guess, then :)
[17:53] <faenil> since the porting guide doesn't cover this part at all :)
[17:54] <faenil> I also read ogr a's post, but it doesn't mention what to do when, for instance, your board doesn't come with initrd support by default
[17:54] <faenil> which is all stuff we should really take care of, in a porting guide :)
[17:55] <faenil> sergiusens: ^
[17:57] <faenil> or when your uboot doesn't read any env file, for instance
[17:57] <longsleep> faenil: mhm, initrd should be unrelated to the board, its related to the kernel and the distribution
[17:57] <longsleep> faenil: well, every u-boot has variables, just make it read one
[17:57] <faenil> longsleep: that's not the right attitude for a guide, imho :D
[17:57] <faenil> if we want to attract more people, we have to make it easier
[17:58] <longsleep> faenil: sure, but i fear porting to whatever arm platform is not so easy, and i am not sure if a snappy porting guide should explain u-boot so much
[17:58] <longsleep> faenil: there could be a u-boot guide though :(
[17:58] <faenil> yeah, initrd is unrelated, but not all distro/kernel that you get with a board come with initrd...while the guide assumes that you have one and that you can adapt it
[17:59] <longsleep> faenil: ah ok, i get what you mean. I think you should turn the initrd question around, Snappy has one and you should adapt it to mach your kernel. That is how i did it
[18:00] <longsleep> faenil: essentially i use the exact initrd from snappy upstream, see https://github.com/longsleep/snappy-odroidc/blob/master/device.mk#L59
[18:03] <faenil> longsleep: I see, ok.
[18:03] <faenil> yeah I believe we just have to be a bit more detailed :)
[18:04] <faenil> and I have almost 0 experience with dev boards, so I'm just giving feedback on how we could improve the guide :)
[18:08] <longsleep> faenil: yeah, i had little u-boot experience when i started porting to snappy, but with lots of help from ogra_ i managed to get it done without very much issues. I have written about it a bit https://www.stdin.xyz/2015/06/14/snappy-ubuntu-core-for-odroid-c1/ if you want to get some ideas what problems i found
[18:09] <faenil> longsleep: awesome, thanks
[18:10] <faenil> longsleep: it is important that we don't let those post stay post (I'm probably going to write one as well), but we collect all the issues we had and update the official guide accordingly :)
[18:10] <faenil> we don't let those posts remain posts on a blog*, I meant
[18:11] <longsleep> faenil: yes, it would be awesome to have good guides, for now i think the best answer is go to #snappy IRC and ask - the guys here are awesome.
[18:13] <faenil> :)


[22:06] <piyushmishra> ActionParsnip: lol thanks gordonjcp I kinda fixed it deleted the .gconf folder. sadly I hadn't realised all visual settings are lost but its way better than having to hit alt all the time
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> ghostnik11: run the executable with wine and it will extract
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> ghostnik11: you may be able to use cabextract to extract it too
[22:07] <ghostnik11> actionparsnip: okay will download wine right now and try
[22:07] <DrGrov> Anybody know?
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: you can only change the background and the login box colour in the current ubuntu
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: http://maketecheasier.com/change-login-and-boot-screen-in-ubuntu-lucid/2010/05/13
[22:08] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Ah ok. So no possibility to use GNOME art to get splash screens nor login managers? :(
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: if its just an image, then its fine
[22:08] <aeiou> how do i debu mysqld from starting (service)
[22:08] <aeiou> ive checked var/log/mysql/x and /var/log/syslog
[22:08] <ghostnik11> actionparsnip: cool will get that also, hopefully b/4 the wireless usb cuts out again
[22:08] <DarkSkyGhost> ActionParsnip: install plymouth manager
[22:09] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Ok, thanks
[22:09] <DarkSkyGhost> tfu
[22:09] <DarkSkyGhost> To the other guy
[22:09] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Something to suggest to install from GNOME art?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> DarkSkyGhost: i dont use plymouth
[22:10] <DarkSkyGhost> That was to DrGrov, sorry.
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: no idea, I dont play with themes much at all
[22:10] <DrGrov> DarkSkyGhost: Thanks, I catched it :)
[22:10] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Ok, I will try my best to find something attractive. The blackish style I have now irritates too much since I have the 42" tv as a computer screen
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: there are lots, there are even projects to make it look like macOS or Win7
[22:12] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: No thanks on the MacOS and Win7 :)
[22:12] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: The sole reason I got into Linux is to get rid of MacOS and Windows
[22:12] <aeiou> 110120 22:11:07 [ERROR] Can't start server: Bind on TCP/IP port: Cannot assign requested address
[22:12] <aeiou> 110120 22:11:07 [ERROR] Do you already have another mysqld server running on port: 3306 ?
[22:12] <aeiou> why would mysql not be able to bind on that port?
[22:12] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: It seems like Ubuntu Tweak can also change my login background?
[22:12] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: But how is it that my 10.04 does have a different look on the login screen than 10.10?
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: not sure, it's free to try though ;)
[22:13] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: It sure is, I love Ubuntu Tweak. It works out really well since I got some nice 3rd party repositories installed.
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> aeiou: then run:  ps -ef | grep mysql
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> aeiou: you can then kil the pid, or you can run:  sudo service mysql stop
[22:14] <aeiou> nope nothing
[22:14] <aeiou> there isnt a mysql process running
[22:14] <aeiou> any other reason it wouldnt be able to bind?
[22:15] <aeiou> could it be apparmour?
[22:15] <mehok> hey guys i am in a bind i am getting a perticular error when i want to launch an app trough wine in ubuntu 10.10 xmbc error 3 is all i see
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> mehok: have you asked in #wine
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> #winehq sorry
[22:16] <mehok> good idea
[22:17] <ierty> hi there
[22:17] <ierty> is that possible ?
[22:17] <mehok> hey guys bit of a bind here
[22:17] <mehok> i installed a windows app on ubuntu 10.10 but it comes out with an eooro on xmbc 3
[22:18] <intrader> I am using `gpg --gen-key`, gets to the point where it tells me that gpg-agent is not available. I use apt-get to install it.
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> mehok: have you checked the appdb for compatibility?
[22:19] <ierty> hi there
[22:19] <ierty> is it possible to launch xdispay on xdisplay ?
[22:21] <ierty> is there any bug here ?
[22:21] <gordonjcp> why the hell does jack depend on Qt?
[22:22] <mehok> no one is on the winehq chat that will help me
[22:22] <gordonjcp> ugh, bug
[22:23] <gordonjcp> hm, I get to choose between an ancient and buggy version of jack, or a broken package that wants to pull in a couple of GB of Qt dependencies
[22:24] <Praxi> Anyone decent with Fetchmail?  I have a ubuntu server 10.04 trying to setup Request Tracker on it.  The RT install went fine, but now I'm trying to setup fetchmail to connect to a local pop3 account on my exchange server.  My fetchmail log shows these errors http://pastie.org/1482493  I have verified the pop account works using thunderbird on a windows box.
[22:24] <Praxi> The errors are related to certs, I know the exchange server has a bad cert
[22:25] <piyushmishra1> gordonjcp: do you remember the command to launch an application from terminal and return the control to the terminal and not kill it when the terminal closes
[22:25] <gordonjcp> piyushmishra1: screen, maybe?
[22:25] <itaylor57> piyushmishra1: nhup
[22:26] <rumpe1> piyushmishra1, disown, maybe ?
[22:26] <itaylor57> piyushmishra1: nohup
[22:26] <itaylor57> piyushmishra1: nohup or screen will work
[22:26] <piyushmishra1> umm like matlab [command]
[22:26] <piyushmishra1> what was that
[22:26] <piyushmishra1> lemme try
[22:26] <mikkelbg> Hi, how can I take a backup of my SD card with bootloader so I can restore it later?
[22:27] <cache_surplus1> hi
[22:27] <Dakrav> does ubuntu 10.04 already have python 3 on it?
[22:28] <piyushmishra1> itaylor57 , rumpe1, gordonjcp nope. the command launched the application and then freed the terminal for me
[22:29] <rumpe1> piyushmishra1, what do you mean with "return the control to the terminal" ?
[22:29] <Dakrav> does ubuntu 10.04 have python 3 already on it?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> mikegerw1tz: partimage :)
[22:30] <piyushmishra1> rumpe1:  usually when you run something from the terminal, the application launches and then you cannot close the terminal as it will kill the process
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> !info python lucid
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> !info python3 lucid
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Dakrav: seems so
[22:30] <rumpe1> piyushmishra1, well.. .with screen or disown you can.
[22:31] <Dakrav> ActionParnsnip: thanks!
[22:32] <piyushmishra1> rumpe1: no both still keep it coupled
[22:32] <piyushmishra1> rumpe1: found it application &
[22:32] <rumpe1> piyushmishra1, ? ... what have you tried exactly?
[22:33] <piyushmishra1> in the terminal I was trying matlab screen
[22:33] <piyushmishra1> and matlab nohup
[22:33] <piyushmishra1> and matlab disown but matlab & worked
[22:34] <rumpe1> piyushmishra1, wrong order ....   then close the terminal and it will close matlab
[22:34] <rumpe1> piyushmishra1, try e.g. "matlab & disown"
[22:34] <Sharpclaw> Hey everybody! How's my Linux peeps doin'? Anyway, I'll cut strait to the point... Where do I get an ISO image? And... why does it have to be so big? LOL.
[22:34] <cellardoor> Sharpclaw, ISO for what? Ubuntu?
[22:34] <rumpe1> piyushmishra1, or "screen matlab"
[22:34] <Sharpclaw> Yup.
[22:35] <cellardoor> Sharpclaw, the website..
[22:36] <Sharpclaw> Nice. If I use Unetbootin do I still need an ISO image?
[22:36] <cellardoor> Sharpclaw, whats Unetbootin?
[22:37] <Sharpclaw> It's a tool you use to get like Linux on your USB stick or CD drive. (I'm takin' that as a no...)
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> Sharpclaw: you can use the minuimal ISO which is 12Mb but you will simply be installing the debss from the repos to install the OS
[22:37] <KM0201> cellardoor: it's to put an ubuntu CD ISO onto a thumb drive.... and make the thumb drive bootable.. it's pretty handy
[22:37] <eriverag> hwllo
[22:38] <eriverag> hello
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> Sharpclaw: yes, unetbootin simply puts the ISO onto the USB storage in an appropriate way. You can use the 1-2-3 installer (if you use Windows) which will download and MD5 test the ISO for you
[22:38] <eriverag> Recently configure apache with modules davfs, and ssl and .htaccess, in a folder called share ... everything works fine on the local network and internet, using WebDAV clients.  But when I go with Firefox to https: / /<IP_ADDRESS> /share... identification does not ask me to login and allows me to see contents of the folder (I know cannot be edited) even download files.  I need this folder is not accessible only by WebDAV (for se
[22:38] <Sharpclaw> ActionParsnip, Wait, what? slow down. I'm a total newb at this.
[22:38] <Varc> Hey guys, one ask. What mean or how can i know my: IRC Network
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> Sharpclaw: the 1-2-3 app can be told to download the ISO and MD5 test it, then put it on the USB storage, all in one app
[22:39] <cellardoor> KM0201, learn something new everyday :)
[22:39] <piyushmishra1> rumpe1: none works if I make it into a shortcut
[22:39] <piyushmishra1> :(
[22:39] <KM0201> cellardoor: it's a pretty awesome tool actualy, i use it to make bootable usb's of various distros all the time
[22:39] <Sharpclaw> Ok, will 1-2-3 make the ISO download faster, like smaller iso?
[22:39] <Guest87822> Argh
[22:39] <bc81> is there a good tutorial for connecting to another ubuntu machine with vnc over a secured connection?  it's my understanding that VNC protocol is insecure
[22:39] <cellardoor> KM0201, all my laptops are old and run standard ubuntu ;D never had a BIOS modern enough to boot from USB
[22:39] <Guest87822> this is impossible.
[22:40] <Gryllida> What exactly does chmod 0751 stand for, please?
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> Sharpclaw: no, it just pulls down the file for you, its still ~700mb
[22:40] <Varc> Cool noboddy help :(
[22:40] <KM0201> cellardoor: lol, only one of my machines wil boot usb, all the others requier a cd. :)
[22:40] <Guest87822> whut?
[22:40] <KM0201> Sharpclaw: the torrents are usually pretty fast, which ISO are you trying to download?
[22:40] <Sharpclaw> :P that stinks. Dial-up is so slow with this stuff... 194 HRS!!
[22:40] <galanakis> I need drivers for a GMA500, can someone help?
[22:40] <ubun> how do you stop recording with desktop recorder... i started but dont know how to stop it.
[22:41] <Sharpclaw> KM0201, Ubuntu 10.10.
[22:41] <KM0201> Sharpclaw: 194hrs?  thats crazy...
[22:41] <cellardoor> ubun right click the icon in the top right corner
[22:41] <eriverag> Recently configure apache with modules davfs, and ssl and .htaccess, in a folder called share ... everything works fine on the local network and internet, using WebDAV clients.  But when I go with Firefox to https: / /<IP_ADDRESS> /share... identification does not ask me to login and allows me to see contents of the folder (I know cannot be edited) even download files.  I need this folder is not accessible only by WebDAV (for se
[22:41] <Sharpclaw> KM0201, That's dial-up for ya!
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> Sharpclaw: try torrents, much faster and resumable
[22:41] <cellardoor> Sharpclaw, dial up costs money doesnt it? just go to a library and use their wifi :P
[22:41] <Guest87822> ò_ó
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> Sharpclaw: what country are you in?
[22:41] <KM0201> Sharpclaw: yeah, i woud try the torrents, and like ActionParsnip said.. faster, and you can pause/resume them.
[22:42] <cellardoor> Guest87822, !google
[22:42] <Sharpclaw> USA
[22:42] <cellardoor> wait
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> Sharpclaw: or you could ask a buddy to pull a CD ISO down for you
[22:42] <ubun> cellardoor: oh ok its like a checkbox... wow i was recording 4 at a time.... thanks man
[22:42] <cellardoor> !google | Guest87822
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> Sharpclaw: dang, if you were UK based I'd post you one
[22:42] <cellardoor> Guest87822, I cant remember the command, point is, google (Y)
[22:42] <cellardoor> ubun thats ok :)
[22:43] <Gryllida> !google
[22:43] <Sharpclaw> ok, KM0201. But, the roads are soooo dangerous. I would not go out for a million US dollars.
[22:43] <Guest87822> lol
[22:43] <rww> ... you just called a factoid saying not to tell people to Google stuff... and then told someone to google stuff. nice.
[22:43] <KM0201> Sharpclaw: wel, you may wanna watch a youtube video or something..lol
[22:43] <cellardoor> Sharpclaw, what about a million of my lovely british ones?
[22:43] <Guest87822> who here knows anything about NTFS?
[22:43] <Sharpclaw> Am ugh... I the only one from the US here.
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> Guest87822: in what sense
[22:44] <Sharpclaw> cellar, nope. Gosh, I am the only American here, aren't I?
[22:44] <xangua> Sharpclaw: here are people from all over the world
[22:44] <metric> is there an easy way to share a printer through a ubuntu?
[22:44] <cellardoor> Sharpclaw, hell yeah!
[22:44] <Sharpclaw> Lot's of activity here.
[22:44] <Sharpclaw> ...
[22:45] <cellardoor> Sharpclaw, well there is over 1520 users in this chatroom alone :P
[22:45] <stefan__> Hi I try to install telnetd at ubuntu 10.10 using xinetd
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> metric: cups will do it or you can samba share them
[22:45] <Guest87822> ActionParseNip: as in disros successfully running on NTFS platforms on partitions.
[22:45] <ubu_ply> Can anyone tell me why Scribus isn't using the theme that I set?
[22:45] <eriverag> Recently configure apache with modules davfs, and ssl and .htaccess, in a folder called share ... everything works fine on the local network and internet, using WebDAV clients.  But when I go with Firefox to https: / /<IP_ADDRESS> /share... identification does not ask me to login and allows me to see contents of the folder (I know cannot be edited) even download files.  I need this folder is not accessible only by WebDAV (for se
[22:45] <Sharpclaw> Woah. did you count? LOL.
[22:45] <Guest87822> 123
[22:45] <cellardoor> Sharpclaw, Xchat tells me
[22:45] <Guest87822> Xchat?
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> metric: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[22:46] <Daekdroom> Xchat is a IRC client.
[22:46] <Guest87822> Oh.
[22:46] <Sharpclaw> Xchat, xchat, xchat. Never heard of it.
[22:46] <Daekdroom> It's the most commonly used in ubuntu along irssi.
[22:46] <Guest87822> lol
[22:46] <cellardoor> Sharpclaw, sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome ;)
[22:46] <Guest87822> thanks parnip.
[22:46] <Daekdroom> No, not xchat-gnome!
[22:46] <rww> xchat-gnome isn't xchat.
[22:46] <Daekdroom> original xchat :|
[22:46] <rww> ^
[22:46] <KipMacy> irssi is all you need
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> Guest87822: NTFS is too primitive to hold Linux permissions. Are you meaning Wubi?
[22:46] <Daekdroom> but then it is a matter of opinion.
[22:46] <cellardoor> I run the gnome version..
[22:46] <Sharpclaw> So, what program makes Ubunut boot in 5 seconds?
[22:47] <Guest87822> YOU, bun. U.
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> Pidgin here (irssi currently due to being at work)
[22:47] <stefan__> can someone help me to install telnet Server ?
[22:47] <Mrokii> I use weechat.
[22:47] <Guest87822> boo sweetpi
[22:47] <cellardoor> Sharpclaw, not a program lol, a LOT of work,
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> stefan__: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/setting-up-a-telnet-server-in-ubuntu.html
[22:47] <vanguard> stefan__: are you totally sure that you do not want to use SSH instead of telnet?
[22:47] <cellardoor> Daekdroom, they both seem roughly the same to me
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> stefan__: I recommend you use openssh-server instead. Telnet has zero security
[22:47] <vanguard> is there an Exchange Calendar client for Linux?
[22:47] <stefan__> thank's start reading :-)
[22:48] <vanguard> ActionParsnip: :)
[22:48] <Sharpclaw> Oh... again, tooootall newbie! Waiting for a time when the roads won't kill me to get to a hotspot.
[22:48] <cellardoor> stefan__, agreed
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> vanguard: sunbird possibly
[22:48] <cellardoor> Sharpclaw, you live in... Canada?! xD
[22:48] <Sharpclaw> Cellardoor, I already said where I live...
[22:48] <Guest87822> Bieberite.
[22:48] <cellardoor> Sharpclaw, i wasnt looking.. multiple screens :P
[22:49] <bc81> hi.  i'm trying to VNC to another ubuntu machine..how do i do it securely?
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> !vnc
[22:49] <Guest87822> 13*:;¤¡
[22:49] <vanguard> ActionParsnip: isn't sunbird superseeded by thunderbird+lightning?
[22:49] <Guest87822> whoa
[22:49] <bc81> thanks ActionParsnip
[22:49] <Sharpclaw> Yeah, I need another monotor. Might use the extra one. :P
[22:49] <Guest87822> 12,1¡¤;:*,.,*:;'¡¡';:*,.,*:;'¡¡';
[22:49] <Guest87822> :*,.,*:;',,¤;¤¡
[22:49] <Guest87822> ¡¤;:*,.,*:;'¡¡';:*,.,*:;'¡¡';
[22:49] <Guest87822> :*,.,*:;',,¤;¤¡
[22:49] <FloodBot2> Guest87822: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:49] <rww> Guest87822: Stop that.
[22:49] <SDr> hi guys,
[22:49] <SDr> is there any way to hide [] processes from top / ps lists?
[22:50] <SDr> (what are they called to google this? )
[22:50] <Guest87822> floood
[22:50] <Guest87822> floooood
[22:50] <punjabdapunk> Noob, me... I've got ubuntu server 10.04 installed and have open-ssh server running. Occasionally, when I ssh into my server it refuses connection. Can anyone suggest which log to look in to find the cause?
[22:50] <ubu_ply> Can anyone tell me why Scribus isn't using the theme that I set?
[22:50] <rww> Guest87822: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support questions, not nonsense.
[22:50] <IcyFlamez> i need help, i have the accessability for my mouse to use my keyboard numpad as my mouse. when i hit 5 now, its not a left click anymore, its shows up a right click menu. could anyone help me? it worked with a restart last time that happened but i dont really want to do that at the moment
[22:50] <Guest87822> i know.
[22:50] <Daekdroom> !guidelines | Guest87822
[22:51] <cellardoor> punjabdapunk, you have good port 22 settings in your router? and you use the correct username to login each time?
[22:51] <punjabdapunk> Yes... that's correct.
[22:51] <Sharpclaw> Say, can I use Windows mice with Ubuntu. Or like, my touch pad. I'm afraid Ubuntu won't recognize them.
[22:51] <stefan__> telnetd don't start because "sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart" don't exist
[22:51] <cellardoor> punjabdapunk, does it say something like... Conection Refused Port 22: Remote Host Closed the Connection?
[22:51] <ghostnik11> actionparsnip: sorry I am taking long but everytime i tried getting wine on it, the wireless usb would cut out so, i have to try and find my usb ethernet then will download wine and let you know if it works, but in the mean time i actually booted in windows xp partition and can say that the wireless usb actually works so once these stupid windows updates actually finish downloading and installing i will boot back into lubuntu
[22:51] <ghostnik11> 10.10
[22:51] <cellardoor> punjabdapunk, and are you using terminal to connect?
[22:52] <punjabdapunk> Yes... it does.
[22:52] <killaz> hi anyone know  whats the command to compile on mingw32  from terminal ?
[22:52] <cellardoor> punjabdapunk, that is a problem with either your underlying network e.g router but more probably a fault in your ssh... try running the following in termianl
[22:52] <cellardoor> punjabdapunk, sudo apt-get remove --purge openssh-server
[22:53] <cellardoor> punjabdapunk, and run
[22:53] <cellardoor> punjabdapunk, rm -rf ~/.ssh / on the machine you are using to try and connect to the server
[22:53] <cellardoor> punjabdapunk, then run sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[22:53] <Guest87822> ooh, take the punjabpunk and run
[22:53] <stefan__> ssh is no option  I must acess the system using a embeded system without ssh
[22:53] <punjabdapunk> I do start my server via wake on lan. Sometimes I wait 20 mins before ssh in. Do you think the server goes into suspend or something similar?
[22:53] <punjabdapunk> I'll try your suggestion now....
[22:54] <cellardoor> punjabdapunk, that sounds very likely actually
[22:54] <Guest87822> Anyone know how to run ubuntu on a cassiopeia?
[22:54] <cellardoor> punjabdapunk, though I wouldnt know about how to go about fixing something like that..
[22:54] <Guest87822> Anyone know how to run ubuntu on a cassiopeia?
[22:54] <stefan__> ssh is no option I need telnet server because I use a embedde system
[22:55] <punjabdapunk> Any ideas about how I can find someone who does?
[22:56] <cellardoor> punjabdapunk, try ubuntuforums
[22:56] <punjabdapunk> Cool... thanks for your help. Later
[22:56] <mehok> anyone here considder them selves good at xbmc player for linux
[22:56] <NotBot> Guest8676567567: I do
[22:57] <Cpt_Zyph> hey guys im having some sorta update error adn im not sure hwo to make it go away.. anyone able to help me take a look at this error log see what im missing possably??
[22:57] <Guest87822> it's 8.1415926535.
[22:57] <Guest87822> fybfi.
[22:57] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, use pastebin to give me a link and I will look for you
[22:57] <mehok> i know a place that has this player customised for windows and they dont offer the linux version
[22:57] <NotBot> Anyone have a noob question?
[22:57] <mehok> i want to crack it and get what ever is in this windows setup into my linux xbmc player
[22:58] <Guest87822> lawl
[22:58] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor thank you kindly.. http://pastebin.com/0JWNHVtK i included some other info that might be needed..
[22:58] <Arisan> Good afternoon, #ubuntu. I'm wondering if it's possible to bring up the terminal that was SSHd into from the client computer as the client has crashed and the process is still running and I'd like to control it locally?
[22:58] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, please hold the line as it were.. ;)
[22:58] <Sharpclaw> Notbot, here's one... Should I chose Ubuntu or Xubuntu?
[22:58] <mehok> i know for a fact they are useing xbmc as a bace
[22:58] <scarface> I'm on 10.10... looking for a GUI hardware/device manager that can show info about my system.  I had thought there would be something for this under System | Administration menu, but I don't see anything that looks right.
[22:59] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, okay wow.. err start with... sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[22:59] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, let me know when that command is completed
[22:59] <shadaloo> hi
[22:59] <shadaloo> audio isn't working
[22:59] <shadaloo> how to restart
[22:59] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor i see i didnt realize that was a sugested command .. (still learning)
[23:00] <martin__> hi all
[23:00] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, no worries :) just stick it in terminal and press enter :)
[23:00] <vanguard> how can I do the apostrophe sign (not the one on the #-key)
[23:00] <galanakis> how do i get a resolution that isn't in the GUI's list
[23:00] <shadaloo> how to restart audio?
[23:00] <shadaloo> !alsa
[23:00] <Sharpclaw> Coding... How do I code into Ubuntu?
[23:00] <vanguard> Sharpclaw: which language do you want to code in?
[23:00] <cellardoor> Sharpclaw, so many ways...
[23:00] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor rgr that.. just had the adduser screen and a few other prompts runing it now
[23:01] <vanguard> Sharpclaw: C++, C, Java, Python, Ruby, TCL/TK, ...
[23:01] <mehok> anyone
[23:01] <SDr> Sharpclaw, madness lies that way
[23:01] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor does it matter were i make the apparmor dir location.. should it be root or home etc?
[23:01] <vanguard> Sharpclaw: classic is C or C++ with the GTK+ framework
[23:01] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, who do you intend to run it as :P
[23:01] <SDr> Sharpclaw, you're going to stay awake until 6am, sometimes not sleeping at all
[23:01] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor rgr that
[23:01] <SDr> Sharpclaw, be very, very afraid.
[23:01] <Sharpclaw> Um... well, C++. I mean like, changing Ubuntu. Still learning Python with Blender 3D.
[23:02] <Sharpclaw> SDr. I've coded in C++ before. Be quiet, please.
[23:02] <ubu_ply> Can anyone tell me why Scribus isn't using the theme that I set?
[23:02] <shadaloo> hi
[23:02] <shadaloo> I cannot hear
[23:02] <shadaloo> no audio
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> !sound | shadaloo
[23:02] <shadaloo> how to fix?
[23:03] <Sharpclaw> ubottu, Did'nt you already say that?
[23:03] <cellardoor> Sharpclaw, something tells me that if you have to ask questions like these.. you really aren't up to it. There is no way to modify 'Ubuntu' as such. Ubuntu is a collective of so much open-source software. You can probably hack about with individual components however
[23:03] <cellardoor> Sharpclaw, though unless you really know what you are doing, you will probably just damage things
[23:03] <idar> I am having some trouble compiling apps on Ubuntu, I have installed build-essentials and the necessary dev libs. But i get lots of errors in stdio.h and other header files in libc. Can anyone help me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/556232/
[23:04] <Sharpclaw> Umm... then why is it open-source if I can't change it? That's kinda... UGH!
[23:04] <cellardoor> idar, what program are you trying to install
[23:04] <idar> cellardoor: FakeXinerama, but it happends with most c apps.
[23:04] <cellardoor> Sharpclaw, oh you can change and rebuild and modify the package by all means.. but I suggest you do a lot of reading first and decide why you would want to do it
[23:04] <Ricky_> Good evening, gents!
[23:05] <cellardoor> idar, there is no debian based package for it?
[23:05] <idar> cellardoor: no
[23:05] <estacion03> can anyone help me change the uri of my printer?
[23:05] <idar> cellardoor: should be fairly easy to compile though
[23:05] <cellardoor> idar, Indeed, but I can't really make out much from that paste unfortunately
[23:06] <RickyHarline> Hey, can I get a gent to be so kind as to offer me some advice on an Ubuntu install issue I'm having?
[23:06] <Sharpclaw> Oh. Well, then... cool. Also, (Lol, I wont stop!) Can I just download 1 iso image, copy it to my USB and boot or do I have to extract?
[23:06] <cellardoor> idar, what I can tell.. is its a problem with the .C files
[23:06] <vanguard> Sharpclaw: You can change it all you want, but the official Ubuntu release managers will not publish your changes :)
[23:06] <vanguard> Sharpclaw: You have to burn the ISO onto the CD using a disk buring program
[23:06] <cellardoor> idar, the header files are incomplete or somehow damaged? is the software actively maintained?
[23:07] <Sharpclaw> vanguard, Yeah. imma on my own for posting.
[23:07] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor i am still runing that command.. may i ask what line you saw that error at .. i dont see it my self.. i must be blind.. felt kinda dumb that you saw something so fast that i completly over looked.. but looking back at hte pastebin im not seeing what line entry has that sugested command to run
[23:07] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor or did you just know that was the command needed?
[23:07] <Sharpclaw> Like, Unetbootin or that other one I just downloaded a while ago...
[23:07] <idar> cellardoor: I just tried with a helloworld app and it failed when i included stdio.h
[23:07] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, its not an error, but it often helps to rebuild certain parts of the package management system.. I saw several breaks in that paste.. I will recommend running a 'check for updates' too at some point
[23:08] <cellardoor> idar, can you get a replacement of that file anywhere?
[23:08] <idar> cellardoor: Its an uptodate maverick system
[23:08] <estacion03> I have one ubuntu comp hooked up to my pc with a printer and it works fine my other unbuntu (a carbon copy) will not print the uri are different any thoughts
[23:08] <cellardoor> idar, stdio.h doesnt come with ubuntu if thats what you are implying.. it needs to be present in the directory you are trying to compile in
[23:08] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor understood... so you saw dpk errors and such so that = that sugestion.. sry just trying to understand and learn how to trouble shoot more etc.. and you think after this a sudu apt-get update would be in order?
[23:09] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, thats perfectly fine, I love people who like to learn :) absolutely! you get it! :) rebuild and collate the packaging system, then run an update and see how it fares this time
[23:09] <idar> cellardoor: it comes with libstdc++6-4.3-dev
[23:10] <idar> cellardoor: a damnit there is a lib32stdc++6 in here too
[23:10] <cellardoor> idar, you using the wrong one? ;)
[23:10] <Sharpclaw> Can I "Try" Ubuntu more than once?
[23:10] <RickyHarline> Well, perhaps someone may know what my problem is:  I go to install Ubuntu and there's a text thing that shows up first after the motherboard POST that says all the Linux OS info and then there's a screen with a small logo at the bottom, and then it sits there for ten seconds or so and then goes to a flashing cursor where it sits for infinity.  Can't find any solutions online...
[23:10] <idar> cellardoor: probably
[23:10] <cellardoor> idar, what architecture are you running on?
[23:10] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor thank ya ill let ya know how it turns out.. i have another weird problem and would like to learn how to address it but ill wait till after this issue.. unless your leaving soon *)
[23:10] <idar> cellardoor: 64bits
[23:11] <itaylor57> cellardoor: stdio.h is present on my system
[23:11] <Traintop> Hi Folks!
[23:11] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor do i want to launch byobu at shell log on ?? i dont even know what that is
[23:11] <cellardoor> RickyHarline, try pressing 'Ctrl-Alt-F1' when that situation arises, may switch you to a login prompt
[23:11] <idar> itaylor57: its pretty standard
[23:11] <RickyHarline> Hi!
[23:11] <wedwo-> Sharpclaw, yes, till the CD wears out
[23:11] <Traintop> I try to rotate my bg-image from a shell-script; I use gconftool-2 --set ....
[23:11] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, no i have time :) and byobu?! what is that? :P
[23:11] <Guest87822> !compiz
[23:11] <gulum> i tried setting a new startup launcher for conky -c ~/conky/conkyrc_orange but it keeps giving me the simple conky (it is not refering to the arguments im giving it). why is that?
[23:11] <idar> Is there a command to figure out which package a file comes from?
[23:11] <mehok> one question guys where does xbmc player install on ubuntu
[23:11] <Guest87822> best
[23:11] <Traintop> If I gconftool-2 --dump the change in displayed
[23:11] <Guest87822> bot
[23:11] <Guest87822> evuh
[23:12] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor i have a prompts in my termal after runing that command you gave me adn its asking me that question
[23:12] <cellardoor> idar, make sure its the right version...
[23:12] <Traintop> but not in the UI and the actual image also does not change
[23:12] <Traintop> any ideas?
[23:12] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, oh I get you.. you got skype?
[23:12] <RickyHarline> cellardoor, thanks, I'll see what I can do
[23:12] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor its a package cfg terminal screen asking "do you want to launch byobu at shell login for all users" negative i do not have skype
[23:13] <geirha> Traintop: Does it work if you do the same change in gconf-editor?
[23:13] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor ill just say no at this point
[23:13] <furi> guys, i've been trying to get ET to work with sound, but it says that /dev/dsp doesn't exist. what can i do about this?
[23:13] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, errr do you think you had it before? if not probably best to say no :)
[23:13] <Cpt_Zyph> no i know its a fresh install of only 2 3 days ago.. and thus far no skype install on this netbook for me
[23:14] <Traintop> geirha: mom, testing
[23:14] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, answer the questions as best you can :)
[23:14] <NotBot> mom?
[23:14] <Sharpclaw> got to go. Thanks.
[23:15] <exutux> moment i think NotBot
[23:15] <Traintop> NotBot: short for "one moment please"
[23:15] <Traintop> geirha: same behavior it seems like gconftool and gconf-editor use 2 different databases...
[23:16] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor it appears as the internet says its a scrip feature for command prompts arch battery cpu count cpu freq date other ................ " warpper scrpit for seeding a users byobu configuration and launching screen" pass for me
[23:16] <tehan> !players
[23:16] <geirha> Traintop: So doing it in gconf-editor works, but gconftool doesn't?
[23:16] <Traintop> NotBot: I heard that this abbreviation is only common under german mmorpg-players... :-)
[23:16] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, ah... if you were okay without it before.. you are now? ;)
[23:16] <geirha> Traintop: If so, how are you running the script? Is it a cronjob?
[23:16] <Traintop> geirha: no, both don't work
[23:16] <cache_surplus1> yawn
[23:16] <Traintop> geirha: only works by using UI
[23:17] <geirha> Traintop: Oh. Hm. Maybe you're changing something in metacity while using compiz or vice versa?
[23:17] <furi> guys, i've been trying to get ET to work with sound, but it says that /dev/dsp doesn't exist. what can i do about this?
[23:17] <Traintop> geirha: compiz is running for blingbling... :-)
[23:17] <gulum> i have set conky -c ~/.conky/conkyrc_orange in my startup application as a command and it keeps calling conky on startup, as it had no parameters. why?
[23:18] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor man this is a long fix command im likign what its steping me through.. while this is going ill just prep with.. this dell mini9 seems to lock at random.. i was told before my wl adapter driver could be the root of hte issue.. i was stumped and did a fresh install with hardwire update so the wifi would work.. (unlike last time i manualy downloaded it) it seemed better but started up once again and i cant figure out why
[23:18] <trism> furi: you can attempt to run it with padsp
[23:18] <geirha> Traintop: For a quick and dirty way to see what doing it with the UI changes, do the change in the UI, then run  find ~ -mmin -2  to see what files have been changed in the last two minutes.
[23:18] <trism> furi: I don't know what ET is though
[23:19] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, is the driver one Ubuntu is using by default.. or a windows one you have added on?
[23:19] <ubu_ply> Can anyone tell me why Scribus isn't using the theme that I set?
[23:19] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor deffently not a windows one.. it dosnt work out of fresh install but i plug into hardwire after update.. the additonal drivers option pops up and i select between the 2 new entries both seem to work tho last time i used B43 and was told that was no good so im doing the STA driver this go around
[23:20] <Cpt_Zyph> cedllardoor one sec tryin gto figure out what option is being changed for the altgr key replacement window i have up atm
[23:20] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, and it is still looking up? and ok
[23:20] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor yep .. completly random too..
[23:20] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, thats another problem for another time I think.... lets get these updates sorted first
[23:21] <idar> IS there a way to put apt-get packages list back to ubuntu stock list? Remove everything i have installed?
[23:21] <furi> trism, i mean wolfenstein enemy territory
[23:21] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor rgr that
[23:21] <cellardoor> idar, essentially, no :/ why do you need that?
[23:21] <inashdeen> hi, need some help, a new spanish ubuntu user need help on using graphic card XFX Radeon HD 5670
[23:21] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor my guess is the default for this option "Alt-gr key" should be right alt??
[23:21] <idar> cellardoor: becuase i have fucked up the dev packages somehow
[23:21] <ghostnik11> actionparsnip: you told me to get cabextract? i am trying to remember what else you told me to get as i just finished downloading wine
[23:21] <inashdeen> this guy is like super new, and i cant speak spanish, he need a personal help rather than on irc chat
[23:21] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, thats correct
[23:22] <Traintop> geirha: ~/.gnome2/backgrounds.xml is changed
[23:22] <furi> trism, it says "sorry, but your soundcard can't do this"
[23:22] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor and if i have a function key is that effected in anyway?
[23:22] <inashdeen> cellardoor: mind ur language please
[23:22] <cellardoor> idar, its ok.. what are their full names? just search them.. right click.. 'completely remove' apply
[23:22] <cellardoor> inashdeen, that wasnt me... that was idar talking TO me
[23:22] <ghostnik11> actionparsnip: actually i got it already, it was cabextract
[23:23] <gordonjcp> inashdeen: mind your spelling, please
[23:23] <estacion03> can anyone help with printer networking?
[23:23] <geirha> Traintop: Aha, then I guess your script needs to edit that file instead, then.
[23:23] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, shouldnt be..
[23:23] <idar> cellardoor: i have no idea what makes this not work, but install build-essential should be able to compile a c file with a main method.
[23:23] <cellardoor> idar, normally you dont even need that... hmm... no guides for it anywhere out there?
[23:23] <idar> cellardoor: I never had any problems compiling stuff on Gentoo. :(
[23:23] <Traintop> geirha: so you do not recommend using gconftool? -I thought this should be the script-interface to gnome-settings?
[23:23] <trism> furi: have you tried looking here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnemyTerritory
[23:24] <cellardoor> idar, opposite here, I could never get the bleedin xserver to ever start up :P
[23:24] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor dang... whats the compose key.. ??
[23:24] <idar> cellardoor: hehe :)
[23:24] <inashdeen> cellardoor: sorry. confused, tell him/her then'
[23:24] <inashdeen> gordonjcp: thanks mate
[23:24] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, probably a key like 'notepad' or something that WOULD start up a customised text entry on Windows.. I think.. it was once a windows laptop?
[23:24] <ratcheer> estacion03: What do you need?
[23:24] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, if you can 'ignore' it thats probably best
[23:25] <geirha> Traintop: Well, it's mostly a bit of a mess there. Most core gnome tools do use gconf, but apparently not all.
[23:25] <cellardoor> idar, I built everything perfectly.. then voomph... 'No screens found'.. funny... how was it telling me that? ;)
[23:25] <estacion03> i want to change the url setting of my device
[23:25] <furi> trism, already looked there
[23:25] <Jordan_U> idar: Can you pastebin your hello_world.c and the exact error from "gcc hello_world.c"?
[23:25] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor its a dell mini that came with windows but its got a mini netbook keyboard so it has the default ctrl , Fn, win, alt layout and on the right side is a right click key then arrows
[23:25] <estacion03> ratcheer, also figure out why one of my two identical ubuntu systems wont print on my network when the other one will
[23:26] <Traintop> geirha: thanks a lot, now I gonna dig into that xml-file... :-)
[23:26] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, just try and ignore the 'compose' key :P
[23:26] <ratcheer> estacion03: I'm not sure. Are you trying to print to a printer on another machine, but on the same network?
[23:26] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor nod.. sry just didnt want to break my keyboard setup and then later on this week notice and not know hwo to repair it
[23:26] <estacion03> yes
[23:27] <idar> Jordan_U: two sec
[23:27] <estacion03> ratcheer, like i said one works the other doesn{t
[23:27] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, no worries :) don't worry you are not doing anything wrong by asking :)
[23:27] <ratcheer> estacion03: Are they all on the same workgroup?
[23:27] <estacion03> ratcheer, the only dif i see is the url of the device
[23:27] <RickyHarline> GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SGLKJSLJKDSLJHRUIWHRQIOUHEOUPIQWEHIOUQPEH!)@#U)*!@HJ$@OI#HR%
[23:27] <estacion03> ratcheer, yes
[23:27] <cellardoor> !spam | RickyHarline
[23:27] <Jordan_U> RickyHarline: Please don't do that again.
[23:28] <Phantomgreen> Hi.
[23:28] <RickyHarline> Yessir
[23:28] <idar> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/556359/
[23:28] <estacion03> ratcheer, another strange thing is one system found the exact model of my printer and the other didnt
[23:28] <ratcheer> estacion03: Just a sec, I'm going to look at mine.
[23:28] <ghostnik11> does anyone know how to get a driver to work with in wine, but the driver is in the cd rom or D: drive
[23:28] <estacion03> ok
[23:28] <inashdeen> ok, te guy just defriend me form fb, not sure whether he got help or not :-(. too sad we lost a potential ubuntu user
[23:28] <tensorpudding> ghostnik11: you have the driver on a cd?
[23:28] <cellardoor> ghostnik11, you don't need wine.. look into ndiswrapper, it can integrate windows drivers into linux
[23:29] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor ok doing an update now
[23:29] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor seems fine now *)
[23:29] <idar> Jordan_U: any idea what wrong with my stdio.h file?
[23:29] <RickyHarline> I will now say the same thing in a non-spammy way:  I have installed Linux about ten or twelve times, and I have never had any sort of issue with the installation.  Indeed, the installation gliding through easily in a contempt mockery of other operating systems is one thing I like very much about Linux.
[23:29] <idar> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/556359/
[23:29] <ghostnik11> cellardoor: thanks, but the thing is that the driver with ndiswrapper doesn't work when i use the auto.inf file it gives me an error
[23:30] <RickyHarline> So why then does my cursed laptop refuse to let me install the easiest to install operating system on the planet?
[23:30] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, okay, now run sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:30] <ratcheer> estacion03: Mine don't use url's, they are using "smb:", which probably means Samba. Are yours like that?
[23:30] <ghostnik11> tensorpudding: yeah it is on cd but comes in exe files for windowns
[23:30] <tensorpudding> ndiswrapper doesn't work on all drivers
[23:30] <tensorpudding> you might be out of luck
[23:30] <cellardoor> ghostnik11, have a google about mate.. search "Ubuntu + Ndiswrapper" there will be loads of people with the same troubles as you
[23:30] <Phantomgreen> I have been using ubuntu since 8.04 and have ran into a few issue but overall it's not enough to make me not want to not use it.
[23:30] <estacion03> ratcheer. the one that works is like urs, the other is using an ip address
[23:31] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor done no errors
[23:31] <estacion03> ratcheer,  i figured that was the problem i just cant find a way to change it
[23:31] <ghostnik11> tensorpudding: nah i will figure it out, this is ubuntu and linux nothing is impossible
[23:31] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, is that all okay now then? :)
[23:31] <cellardoor> ghostnik11, good words!
[23:31] <ratcheer> estacion03: Sorry, I really don't know.
[23:31] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor i believe soo thank ya vmuch for that.. i did it a 2nd time no hang ups
[23:31] <estacion03> ratcheer, anywhere you can direct me to?
[23:31] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, there ya go, up to date :) now what was this you mentioned about the wireless drivers causing lockups?
[23:32] <tensorpudding> ghostnik11: it's always possible for you to write your own drivers
[23:32] <estacion03> ratcheer, ubuntu server said this would be the place for answers?
[23:32] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor well i asked a while ago and showed someone my dmesg log and they said OOoOo yoru wireless driver sucks thats prob why its locking up.. and thats about as far as that got.. 8/
[23:32] <ratcheer> estacion03: It may be easier to get an answer on ubuntuforums.org
[23:32] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor so i couldnt
[23:32] <KM0201> Cpt_Zyph: well, what is your wireless device?
[23:32] <RickyHarline> So gents, I was able to get so far as the screen where it asks if I would like to install Ubuntu or try the live version, after which it goes to the blinking cursor from hell.  I humbly ask for any input anyone may have.  At the cursor del diablo Ctrl Alt F1 is of no use, also.
[23:33] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, open 'Advanced Drivers' from System>Administration, and tell me which wireless driver you are running, and your notebook model
[23:33] <ghostnik11> tensorpudding: okay, never thought of that will look that up in google and see if i can, if i don't get it to work with wine
[23:33] <estacion03> ratcheer, thats why im here i cant seem to find it there
[23:34] <DexterF> heya
[23:34] <gmg> can anyone tell me which remote desktop software is easy to use to automaticly log into a machine (linux to linux)
[23:34] <Cpt_Zyph> well in the additonal drivers window it currently has the Broadcom STA driver activated and the b43 not activated
[23:34] <DexterF> how can I force the monitor to run at 50Hz instead of 60?
[23:34] <DexterF> nvidia-glx driver
[23:34] <tensorpudding> ghostnik11: i was somewhat joking, writing device drivers for linux requires a good bit of knowledge
[23:34] <KM0201> Cpt_Zyph: lol, those devices work fine w/ Linux.. who on earth tod you it was "bad"... do you know which broadcom you have?
[23:34] <cellardoor> tensorpudding, was gonna say..
[23:35] <tensorpudding> it's not at all impossible though
[23:35] <almoxarife> I have a html page I want to serve, it is a simple links page, nothing complicated, is there a webserver app that is simple/lite ??
[23:35] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, which model of notebook?
[23:35] <DexterF> gmg: do you mean to remotely operate the login screen or make a remote session?
[23:35] <ratcheer> estacion03: I would try deleting that printer, making sure the Samba config specifies the correct workgroup, and then add the printer, again. Making sure it is added as a Samba connection.
[23:35] <ghostnik11> tensorpudding: doesn't matter how long it will take, as long as i can read the information, i might be able to get it to work
[23:35] <Cpt_Zyph> according to lspci i have a braodcom corp bcm4312 which every guide says simply install.. plug in .. update preto. which is what i did and im on wifi with it now working fine
[23:35] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor dell mini vostro 9
[23:35] <KM0201> Cpt_Zyph: i just helped someone set that device up yesterday or the day before... i think it needs the b43
[23:36] <tensorpudding> if you have the specs for your device, maybe it would not be so difficult, but reverse-engineering is really painful
[23:36] <KM0201> !broadcom | Cpt_Zyph
[23:36] <gmg> to make a remote session..i need to log into a linux system automaticly any time of the day.
[23:36] <benfclark> Cpt_Zyph, good computer :)
[23:36] <estacion03> ratcheer can you help me do that im not good with samba
[23:36] <mehok> guys i need to know where do programmes install in ubuntu linux
[23:36] <Jordan_U> idar: Do you get the same error from "/usr/bin/gcc hello_world.c"?
[23:36] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, what happens in these.. lockups?
[23:36] <idar> Jordan_U: I get that error from helloworld.c yes
[23:36] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor well if im watching a movie hangs and sound get stuck and repeats.. if im list
[23:36] <tensorpudding> mehok: under /usr/bin for binaries, /usr/share for shared files, /usr/lib for libraries
[23:36] <idar> Jordan_U: Yes, sorry
[23:36] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, watching over the internet, right?
[23:37] <Jordan_U> idar: When gcc is invoked with the full path to the binary?
[23:37] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor list'n to pandora radio or something at work it hangs the music.. or the system just does a freeze and locks up without doing anything o nthe internet but im still connnected
[23:37] <mehok> for example the xmbc programme
[23:37] <ratcheer> estacion03: I can try. Mine has been set up for a long time and I don't mess with it much.
[23:37] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor no sometimes its just a avi file
[23:37] <gmg> over the internet
[23:37] <tensorpudding> mehok: did you install it using ubuntu?
[23:37] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, that isn't your wireless at all.. thats a ALSA or video decoding issue..
[23:37] <idar> Jordan_U: gcc -I /usr/include ??
[23:37] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor but its pretty much a old school freeze have to hold down power button to reboot
[23:37] <mehok> yea
[23:37] <estacion03> ratcheer thats fine im not worried about messing this up
[23:37] <tensorpudding> mehok: what is xmbc?
[23:37] <idar> Jordan_U: There is only one stdio.h on my filesystem
[23:37] <mehok> media player
[23:38] <KM0201> Cpt_Zyph: so is your wireless working or not?...
[23:38] <mehok> like windows media center
[23:38] <tensorpudding> mehok: try 'whereis xbmc'
[23:38] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor well sense its a freeze im told thats why im not seeing errors in a log file... so how do i work on trouble shooting that problem to narrow it down to the root
[23:38] <Jordan_U> idar: Run exactly this, nothing more and nothing less (in the directory containing helloworld.c): /usr/bin/gcc helloworld.c
[23:38] <Cpt_Zyph> KM0201 yep has been like a champ
[23:38] <mehok> where tha hell do i try that
[23:38] <ratcheer> estacion03: Go to System - Administration - Printers. Select the printer you cannot use and see if there is an option to delete or remove it.
[23:38] <KM0201> Cpt_Zyph: oh, i thought you said you were having problems w/ it...
[23:38] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, you listen to pandora using their official program?
[23:38] <mehok> terminal or
[23:38] <tensorpudding> mehok: in the terminal
[23:38] <Cpt_Zyph> KM0201 just someone rdo or something told me mthat driver suckede and i was locking cuz of it
[23:38] <idar> Jordan_U: Same problem
[23:38] <mehok> ok
[23:38] <Jordan_U> idar: Ok.
[23:38] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor no couldnt get that applet working so i use firefox through their site
[23:38] <KM0201> Cpt_Zyph: thats ridiculous.... a lot of people use that device w/o issue
[23:39] <Cpt_Zyph> KM0201 i figured the same but im so new to this i was like well.... humm... *) unknown to me atm
[23:39] <idar> Jordan_U: Any ideas?
[23:39] <Jordan_U> idar: Do you have a directory named "gcc" in the same directory as helloworld.c?
[23:39] <idar> Jordan_U: nope
[23:39] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, I am afraid I don't know what to suggest.. try listening to it some other way and see if it locks up doing that? if it doesnt, it could mean that there is something up with firefox? doesnt explain the ,avi problem though
[23:39] <KM0201> Cpt_Zyph: i can't explain your locking up/freezing.. but i feel fairly confident whatever it is, it is not related to your wireless device.
[23:40] <gmg> Which program is the easiest for remote sessions? (linux to linux)
[23:40] <rusty149> Hi, When connecting a VGA cable to my Sony VGN-NS20S Ubuntu freezes. I can still see the whole screen but it does not respond to trackpad, keyboard inc. Ctrl+Alt+F1 and SysRq. Any help please?
[23:40] <idar> Jordan_U: It runs gcc , and the binary is a 64 bit version. stdio.h comes from libc6-dev
[23:40] <tensorpudding> gmg: do you demand a remote shell, or do you want something like a remote desktop
[23:40] <KM0201> gmg: vnc is good, but if you want quick, dirty, and easy.. just use teamviewer
[23:41] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor the best way i could describe the random ness of the freeze would be a overheating CPU.. if i was dealing with a windows box which im familar with and troublshooting the Hardware i would of gotten down to the best discription overheating video card or cpu problem.. as i would of done a ram test already as well as driver checks etc..
[23:41] <gmg> remote desktop...to view a other desktop on mine over the internet
[23:41] <tensorpudding> gmg: ssh provides secure remote shells, vnc provides mostly insecure remote desktops
[23:41] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, i doubt its an overheating cpu :/
[23:41] <KM0201> Cpt_Zyph: well.. i guess i'll state the obvious, is your laptop over heating
[23:41] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor i appreciate ya time tho .. i have enabled boot logging in hopes that after a freeze it would leave me some trail to follow but thus far i dont know exactly were else to look to find out what locked up or got hung
[23:41] <gohan_> gmg: You can try vinagre
[23:41] <Cpt_Zyph> KM0201 na its deffently not a hardware overheating issue.. just thats the only way to discribe how random it is
[23:41] <tensorpudding> gmg: but you can start vnc using System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[23:42] <cellardoor> Cpt_Zyph, thats ok, I have to go now, catch me another time, here http://twitter.com/samcater, thanks for being an avid user :)
[23:42] <Cpt_Zyph> KM0201 if your familar with CPU heating up problems that hwo random it is
[23:42] <KM0201> gmg: teamviewer is very easy w/ that... it also makes it where if one of the parties is a moron, and can't open ports on a router, it will bypass allt hat
[23:42] <Cpt_Zyph> cellardoor thanks dude
[23:42] <KM0201> Cpt_Zyph: yup, i am.. i just figured i'd ask the obvious question
[23:42] <tensorpudding> gmg: it's easy and requires little thought
[23:42] <tensorpudding> gmg: but don't do it if you don't trust your local network
[23:42] <Cpt_Zyph> KM0201 understood .. np *)
[23:43] <Anom_> Hi
[23:43] <gmg> Can you set teamviewer so that it can log in automaticly?
[23:43] <vanguard> that is more a job for LogMeIn
[23:43] <Anom_> I am running the Open source ATI drivers for my Radeon 200M, and GLXgears does not work (says segmentation fault) is this normal ?
[23:43] <KM0201> gmg: i believe so... but i don't use that option
[23:44] <vanguard> Anom_: Does any other 3D things run?
[23:44] <Anom_> such
[23:44] <vanguard> Anom_: Segmentation Fault is a memory error in a C-Program
[23:44] <daveSizzle> looking for some help on running a virtual ubuntu on my windows7 machine...
[23:44] <gmg> I need for a pc that doesn't have a user or a mouse, keyboard or screen
[23:44] <vanguard> Anom_: a game, lets say urbanterror or sauerbraten
[23:44] <Cpt_Zyph> well afk time gatta do a little work before it gets any later thanks again for the help guysl... ill have to find out mroe abuot logs and or known issues with these dells and their hardware maybe thats a problem
[23:44] <Anom_> vanguard, thats strange, I wonder if it has to do with this Edgers thing (Gallium) that I installed
[23:44] <vanguard> daveSizzle: what do you need help for
[23:44] <daveSizzle> anyone?
[23:45] <vanguard> daveSizzle: what do you need help with?
[23:46] <furi> guys, i've been trying to get ET to work with sound, but it says that /dev/dsp doesn't exist. what can i do about this? padsp doesn't work
[23:46] <Jordan_U> idar: No idea. Try asking in ##c or #gcc.
[23:46] <rusty149> Hi, When connecting a VGA cable to my Sony VGN-NS20S Ubuntu freezes. I can still see the whole screen but it does not respond to trackpad, keyboard inc. Ctrl+Alt+F1 and SysRq. Any help please?
[23:46] <Jordan_U> furi: Have you tried "aoss" instead of padsp? What error message do you get with padsp?
[23:47] <idar> Jordan_U: thanks
[23:47] <Jordan_U> idar: You're welcome.
[23:47] <Blacklite> http://i.imgur.com/4q1us.png
[23:47] <Anom_> !ati
[23:47] <gmg> Another thing is how do you set a 3G USB modem to redial a connection when the pc restarts?
[23:47] <Hilarie> Is it possible to remove the root password from my system?
[23:48] <furi> Jordan_U: it says "sorry, your sound card can't do this" something like that
[23:48] <furi> Jordan_U: will try aoss
[23:48] <Anom_> ~ati
[23:48] <Anom_> !ati
[23:48] <KM0201> Hilarie: i don't think so, and even if you could, you don't want to.... you might as well use windows
[23:48] <Blacklite> I get random load average spikes, accompanied with htop showing HUGE red bars in the CPU lines
[23:48] <Jordan_U> Hilarie: Yes.
[23:48] <cache_surplus1> hi
[23:48] <Hilarie> What are the disadvantages of removing the password?
[23:49] <gmg> VERY FUNNY...I need a permanent connection to a workstation in case of power dips
[23:49] <Jordan_U> Hilarie: Ubuntu has no root password by default, instead you use sudo.
[23:49] <rusty149> Hilarie: Ubuntu does not have a root password by default  !sudo
[23:49] <Jordan_U> Hilarie: If you have set a root password then it is definitely good to remove it again.
[23:49] <rusty149> !sudo | Hilarie
[23:50] <Jordan_U> Hilarie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Re-disabling%20your%20root%20account
[23:50] <gordonjcp> it's not really a great idea to have a root password set at all
[23:50] <Anom_> hi, I installed the fglrx drivers, but they don't work, how do I reset by drivers back to ATI ?
[23:50] <tensorpudding> gmg: what software are you using to negotiate the 3g modem?
[23:50] <gordonjcp> the whole concept of "root" is fundamentally flawe
[23:50] <stu> hi
[23:50] <gordonjcp> *flawed
[23:50] <Hilarie> I was confusing what root was
[23:50] <gordonjcp> it's an outmoded throwback to the 1970s
[23:50] <Guest79386> jfdncdkd fcsj djd zxz
[23:50] <Hilarie> I am looking to get rid of the password to install things
[23:50] <Jordan_U> Hilarie: What is your end goal?
[23:50] <KM0201> Anom_: did you install the driver from ATI's website?
[23:51] <gmg> Gnome PPP
[23:51] <Hilarie> To not type in passwords when I am installing things, if I wanted that, I might as well use vista :P
[23:51] <Jordan_U> Hilarie: Such a configuration is not supported here. Those prompts exist for a good reason.
[23:51] <gordonjcp> Hilarie: it's easy to do that
[23:51] <aeon-ltd> Hilarie: just no. seriously you'd want to allow anyone to install anything without a prompt?
[23:52] <gmg> It redials when the line is droped but does redail when i restart the PC
[23:52] <tensorpudding> gmg: that software looks to be dead
[23:52] <gordonjcp> Hilarie: in fact, it's a case of adding a single word to a single line in a config file
[23:52] <gordonjcp> Hilarie: but I'm not going to tell you which one
[23:52] <tensorpudding> gmg: you probably just need to add it to the default start applications
[23:52] <Hilarie> and remote exploits become much easier for malicious crackers.
[23:52] <Hilarie> That's enough for me to keep it :)
[23:52] <gmg> I did but doesn't dial the number
[23:52] <gordonjcp> Hilarie: once you've worked it out for yourself, you'll see why it's a bad idea ;-)
[23:53] <rusty149> Hi, When connecting a VGA cable to my Sony VGN-NS20S Ubuntu freezes. I can still see the whole screen but it does not respond to trackpad, keyboard inc. Ctrl+Alt+F1 and SysRq. If I connact before boot it works fine.
[23:53] <tensorpudding> gmg: the documentation for it might help
[23:53] <tensorpudding> gmg: as it stands, it's just a front-end for wvdialer
[23:53] <tensorpudding> gmg: you can probably configure wvdialer to start when you boot up
[23:53] <gmg> I have been looking everywhere..just cant find a (stay connected software)
[23:53] <estacion03> can anyone help with a printing configuration issue
[23:53] <musseas> boa noite
[23:54] <Anom_> KM0201,    ATI  200M is not supported
[23:54] <gmg> Maybe I should surf porn and hope to get a dailer virus he he he
[23:54] <Anom_> with XORG 7.5
[23:54] <KM0201> Anom_: i understand that, but how did you install it, thats going to determine how you uninstall it
[23:54] <Hilarie> Do those even still exist gmg?
[23:55] <tensorpudding> gmg: look up the documentation for wvdial
[23:55] <gmg> In windows yes
[23:55] <Anom_> KM0201, well, everything seems to be working good with the right resolutions now with the open source ATI drivers
[23:55] <KM0201> Anom_: ok.. so..? why are you wanting to mess w/ it
[23:55] <gmg> Will try that but don;t think I will understand whats going on
[23:56] <Hilarie> Is it possible in ubuntu to set up music sharing that would work with win7?
[23:56] <david234> I am trying to use iptables -t mangle, I want to test my rules, is there a way to reapply my mangle rules to the active connections ?
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> Hilarie: sure you can use samba to share folders
[23:56] <tensorpudding> gmg: honestly, it would appear that Gnome's PPP awareness is being deprecated by lack of people actually using it
[23:57] <Zaelyx> Hilarie: you mean as the share that displays within windows media player?
[23:57] <Hilarie> @zaelyx that would be ideal
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> Hilarie: there is also the web interface in VLC which allows you to remotely control what VLC plays out of the server's remote speakers (or to make it play movies ;))
[23:57] <erghezi> i cant open any files from 4shared.com
[23:57] <vitual> hola
[23:57] <erghezi> the file format are ZIP
[23:57] <vitual> alguien
[23:57] <gmg> Well if you can point me the direction then i would be happy to use something els
[23:58] <cyphase> what happened to the vino option that only allowed connections from localhost?
[23:58] <vitual> alguien sabe un canal en español
[23:58] <tensorpudding> !es | vitual
[23:58] <Anom_> KM0201, sorry for the wait, we are just having issues with Edgers / Gallium, and google earth / glxgears
[23:58] <erghezi> http://www.4shared.com/account/dir/mnEK6qIo/Ostad_Mohammad_Reza_Shajarian.html
[23:58] <vitual> ok gracias
[23:58] <erghezi> you can click Download all files and get one big ZIP file
[23:59] <Hilarie> This Samba thing would essentially create a network drive?
[23:59] <erghezi> but i cant open zip file :(
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> Hilarie: yes, a share which would appear and be accessible to your LAN systems
[23:59] <Hilarie> Awesome, that'll work, thank yiou
[23:59] <Anom_> Anyone here have a ATI 200M video card ?