[00:04] <J21> Know if anyone else went?
[00:26] <Cheri703_> I think andy showed up :/ I wasn't able to get a message out. though it is absolutely ok for others to go even if I'm not there :)
[01:28]  * canthus13 thought Cheri703 was rounding people up and 'encouraging' them to attend, using a cattle prod for said 'encouragement'
[01:28]  * Cheri703_ just spent 7 full days with parents here...needed to rest a bit
[01:28] <Unit193> That would work... But I was working on something that needed to be done by morning/afternoon
[01:29] <canthus13> eh?
[01:30] <Unit193> Cattle prod would work and the reason I wasn't there ^^
[01:30] <canthus13> Oh.
[01:30] <canthus13> :)
[01:30] <canthus13> Wow. only 1 router in the neighborhood left running WEP.
[01:31]  * canthus13 just got a new Alfa card. :)


[01:39] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: You have something else you need help on?
[01:39] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Yeah, I need to upload l10n for 4.3.4 to karmick-backports.
[01:40] <ScottK> karmick/karmic
[01:40] <ScottK> I've decided to wait and see if Riddell has a magic script though.
[01:40] <JontheEchidna> I wonder if Riddell uses batl10n for that....
[01:41] <JontheEchidna> batl10n-upload and batl10n
[01:41] <ScottK> If you can upload l10n and have a decent way to script landing it in karmic-backports, that would be awesome.
[01:42] <JontheEchidna> I can upload every single language pack, but not a single kde-l10n-* package
[01:46] <ScottK> Lovely.
[01:47] <ScottK> Either Riddell has some magic or I do it tomorrow night.
[02:47] <ryanakca> shtylman, Riddell: http://drupal.ryanak.ca/ has the screenshot module removed.
[02:48] <shtylman> what happened to the hotness image you showed me the other day?
[02:48] <shtylman> ryanakca: ^
[02:48] <ryanakca> shtylman: That's for Drupal 6. The above theme is for our current 5.13 install.
[02:48] <shtylman> ahhh
[02:49] <shtylman> I would make the top banner go more flush with the edges
[02:55] <ryanakca> shtylman: OK
[03:00] <ScottK> Nightrose or Mamarok: Should I move amarok - 2:2.2.1-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa1 to karmic-backports (I'm moving KDE 4.3.4)?
[03:01] <ryanakca> shtylman: Like so?
[03:01]  * ryanakca liked it better before
[03:03] <shtylman> yea... I think that gives it a bit more separation
[03:03] <shtylman> everything just seems to bleed together
[03:03] <shtylman> even with the text below
[03:03] <shtylman> ryanakca: its your final call... but I would look at that... as well as how to distinguish the text below
[03:03] <shtylman> and maybe make that giant Kubuntu is free... etc a bit smaller
[03:04] <shtylman> I dunno what it is... but the text just looks slapped on there
[03:14] <ryanakca> shtylman: OK
[03:16] <ryanakca> shtylman: Feel free to play around with it, lp:~kubuntu-website/kubuntu-website/kubuntu-theme-v2
[03:19] <shtylman> k
[03:19]  * ryanakca => bed, school again tomorrow.
[03:19] <ryanakca> And I shrank the What Is Kubuntu text
[03:28] <ScottK> Riddell: Nevermind.  Decided just to do the translations by hand ....
[04:27] <mingmingtoo> Hi!  O/
[04:28] <mingmingtoo> It's the guy no one qanat
[04:28] <mingmingtoo> Wants*
[04:32] <ScottK> mingmingtoo: Assuming you're who I think you are, that's not true.
[04:34] <mingmingtoo> Sure seems one of thexouncil does...
[04:34] <mingmingtoo> Eh
[04:35] <mingmingtoo> What does she even do for kubuntu other than yellif at peoples designs?
[04:36] <mingmingtoo> But I still g
[04:41] <nixternal> mingmingtoo: dude, I have been supporting you man and backing you up, trying to put out fires, but I will stop doing so if you continue attacking people...I understand your conditions, but you aren't making it any easier on yourself...and you are also attacking a friend of mine, how not only does a lot for Kubuntu, but she also does a ton for KDE
[04:41] <nixternal> fuck
[04:41] <nixternal> he couldn't wait 2 more seconds?
[04:42] <jjesse> what is wrong w/ his head?
[04:42] <jjesse> srlsy
[04:42] <ScottK> Probably my fault (PM)
[04:43] <nixternal> he supposedly has medical issues right now, but I am finding it hard to believe those conditions seeing as vendictive as he has been
[04:43] <jjesse> seems like he's gone coco for coco puffs
[04:43] <nixternal> it is seriously starting to really irk me, and I highly doubt I can continue supporting him with these actions
[04:43] <nixternal> mmm cocoa puffs
[04:43] <jjesse> i ttried to reach out to him too but no response
[04:43] <jjesse> oh well
[04:44]  * jjesse beds
[04:44] <nixternal> g'nite
[04:44] <ScottK> nixternal: I totally believe this is from his medical issue
[04:44] <ScottK> Good night.
[04:44] <jjesse> night ScottK and nixternal
[04:44] <nixternal> if his medical issue has been upgraded to batshit insane, OK, I will agree
[04:44] <nixternal> but depression I thought was the issue...never have I lashed out at people during my depression times
[04:45] <ScottK> I think the lashing out is the manic part.
[04:46] <ScottK> It's very common to completely lose perspective when you're in that state.
[04:46] <nixternal> ok, so I have redone the feedback widget, ie. ported it to c++ since it starts up, cleaned it up a bit, and repackaged it...I will throw it on revu so you can revu it :)
[04:46] <ScottK> nixternal: OK.  You want to upload the two dozen translations updates that are left for karmic-backports while I look at that?
[04:46] <ScottK> I'm up to kde-l10n-mr_4.3.4-0ubuntu1~karmic1_source.changes
[04:47] <ScottK> (in alphabetical order)
[04:47] <nixternal> do they all have to be test built?
[04:47] <ScottK> Nope.
[04:47] <nixternal> for x in `ls *.changes`; do dput ${x}; done
[04:47] <nixternal> ;p
[04:48] <nixternal> ooh, dput ubuntu those badboys
[04:48] <nixternal> I can finish those up
[04:48] <ScottK> nixternal: Grab them from https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa/+packages?start=0&batch=75 and remove the ~ppa1 and change the upload target to karmic-backports
[04:48] <ScottK> nixternal: Actually I have kde-l10n-nb_4.3.4-0ubuntu1~karmic1_source.changes done.
[04:48] <nixternal> hey, seeing as I ported the widget to c++, I renamed it, and have it set to replace the old..is that cool, or should I just keep the same name?
[04:48] <ScottK> Should be fine.  I'll look at it.
[04:49] <ScottK> nixternal: You should start with https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/894697/+listing-archive-extra
[04:49] <nixternal> yeah, didn't want to keep the same name honestly...a) to long of a name, and b) wasn't short and to the point :)
[04:49] <ScottK> nixternal: What's the new name?
[04:50] <nixternal> plasma-widget-kubuntu-feedback
[04:50] <nixternal> removed the -qa- part
[04:50] <nixternal> not showing up in revu yet...need to wait<PHONE_NUMBER>280 hours :p
[04:50] <ScottK> OK.  Get to work on the translations and I'll go hunt it down.
[04:51] <nixternal> roger that
[04:51] <nixternal> so I am starting from -nl it looks like
[04:52] <ScottK> nixternal: Start from -nds
[04:54] <ScottK> Found it.
[04:55] <nixternal> for x in nl nn pa pl pt ptbr ro ru sk sl sr sv tg th tr uk wa zhcn zhtw; do
[04:55] <nixternal> dget -ux https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa/+files/kde-l10n-${x}_4.3.4-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa1.dsc
[04:55] <nixternal> done
[04:55] <nixternal> ahh, ok..will add nds
[04:58] <ScottK> nixternal: Any reason you don't want to build you app --with-kde?
[04:58] <ScottK> you/your
[04:58] <nixternal> cuz I am a moron
[04:58] <nixternal> I was building non-kde apps earlier and it stuck
[04:58] <nixternal> I will fix that
[05:00] <ScottK> nixternal: How about I fix it and you do the langauge stuff.  I'm sick of backports.
[05:03] <nixternal> hehe
[05:03] <nixternal> did you dput anything with these at all?
[05:04] <nixternal> ie. the ones you finished
[05:06] <nixternal> ahh, nevermind, found them :)
[05:22] <nixternal> echo "*** Did you remember to refresh desktop translations with `make -f debian/rules get-desktop`? ***"
[05:22] <nixternal> ScottK: ^^ do I need to run that before debuild?
[05:22] <ScottK> nixternal: Not unless I messed it up too.
[05:22] <nixternal> hrmm, debuild doesn't get past that, it just stops there
[05:22] <ScottK> We're just reuploading the translations from the PPA, not trying to make new ones.
[05:22] <ScottK> No.  It just takes a long time.
[05:23] <nixternal> oh
[05:23] <nixternal> haha
[05:23] <nixternal> lol, as soon as I switch back to that screen, sure enough, there is my password prompt :)
[05:27] <ScottK> nixternal: Want me to go ahead and upload this?
[05:32] <nixternal> don't see why not
[05:33] <ScottK> OK.
[05:35] <ScottK> nixternal: Uploaded.  Linitian whines about rpath.  I'll leave that for you in ubuntu2 as I'm too tired.
[05:36] <nixternal> groovy
[05:36] <nixternal> thanks
[06:02] <ScottK> nixternal: How's it going?
[06:03] <nixternal> getting ready to upload
[06:04] <ScottK> Excellent.
[06:04] <ScottK> I'll stay up to accept it then.
[06:04] <ScottK> nixternal: When you're done, would you please put the list of what you uploaded in https://bugs.launchpad.net/karmic-backports/+bug/497724 and then mark the bug fix released.
[06:05] <nixternal> yes
[06:05] <ScottK> Thanks.
[06:08] <nixternal> uploading now
[06:09] <nixternal> that was only like a 15 minute task thanks to for, if, and sed :)
[06:09] <nixternal> dput *karmic1_source.changes
[06:09] <nixternal> dput ubuntu *karmic1_source.changes
[06:09] <ScottK> Even better.
[06:10] <nixternal> sed -i 's/karmic1~ppa1) karmic;/karmic1) karmic-backports;/' */debian/changelog
[06:11] <nixternal> what a friend that one is :)
[06:11] <nixternal> for x in `ls`; do
[06:11] <nixternal> if [ -d $x ]; then
[06:11] <nixternal> cd ${x}
[06:11] <nixternal> debuild -S -sa -k$GPGKEY
[06:11] <nixternal> cd ..
[06:11] <nixternal> fi
[06:11] <nixternal> done
[06:12] <nixternal> booyah, so if anyone has to do mass uploads from ppa to -backports, there you go :)
[06:13] <ScottK> All I see so far in the queue is nds.
[06:13] <nixternal> they are all going
[06:13] <nixternal> up to ptbr right now
[06:13] <ScottK> OK
[06:16] <ScottK> OK, just accepted through ro.
[06:16] <ScottK> Coming along nicely
[06:17] <nixternal> sv uploading now
[06:21] <ScottK> There's another batch.  Up through tg now.
[06:21] <ScottK> th accepted too.
[06:21] <nixternal> last 2 are uploading now
[06:21] <nixternal> zhcn and zhtw
[06:21] <ScottK> Cool.
[06:24] <nixternal> all done
[06:24] <ScottK> OK.  Thanks a bunch.
[06:24] <nixternal> np
[06:26] <ScottK> nixternal: All accepted.
[06:26] <nixternal> well that was easy
[06:26] <ScottK> Don't forget the bug.
[06:27] <nixternal> bug 497724 fix released
[06:29] <ScottK> All done then.
[06:29] <ScottK> Once it's all built, I'll put an update on kubuntu.org
[08:48] <Nightrose> ScottK: re moving amarok: generally the more people get the newest amarok the better but it's your call if you think it is safe enough for backports
[11:34]  * jussi01 waves
[11:35]  * Riddell photons
[11:37] <jussi01> *g*
[11:37] <jussi01> How are you Riddell? Have a good new years?
[11:39] <Riddell> yes most jolly thanks jussi01
[11:40] <jussi01> Riddell: excellent. :)
[12:24] <Tonio_> happy new year everyone :)
[12:28] <jussi01> And the same back to you Tonio_ ! :)
[12:28] <Tonio_> :)
[13:29] <jussi01> rgreening: good morning sir!
[13:30] <rgreening> morning. happy new yr
[13:30] <rgreening> my Amarok keeps crsh
[13:30] <rgreening> dang
[13:38] <seele> maco: you called again?
[13:48] <ScottK> Tonio_: Happy New Year.
[14:01] <dholbach> heya
[14:01] <dholbach> can anybody imagine running a session at UDW: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Prep still has a couple of empty slots
[14:05] <dholbach> there's nothing kubuntu-y or kde-y on the schedule yet
[14:08] <seele> dholbach: hmm.. i could do one friday on kubuntu/kde junior jobs/papercuts
[14:09] <dholbach> yeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaw!
[14:09] <dholbach> that'd be fantastic!
[14:09] <dholbach> seele: do you want me to pencil you in somewhere or do you prefer to do it?
[14:09] <seele> you say it as if you didn't expect anyone to volunteer :)
[14:09] <seele> dholbach: go ahead and pencil me in on friday, i'll put it on my calendar
[14:10] <dholbach> seele: thanks muchly
[14:10]  * dholbach hugs seele
[14:10] <dholbach> and happy 2010!
[14:10] <seele> dholbach: np, happy new year
[14:10] <dholbach> :-)
[14:27] <Riddell> seele: maco is away from internet access for the moment
[14:27] <seele> she keeps on calling me but never leaves voice messages
[14:41] <Daskreech> hi dendro-afk
[15:02] <Stecchino> KDE4.4-beta2, getting phonon build errors. Seems like either missing package or incorrect phonon version
[15:03] <Stecchino> does anyone know about this. Preferably with an easy, quick fix
[15:17] <Riddell> Stecchino: what version of qt do you have?
[15:18] <Stecchino> Riddell: 4.6.0-1ubuntu3~karmic1~ppa1
[15:18] <Riddell> hmm, that should have the phonon patch
[15:18] <Riddell> Stecchino: what's the build error?  missing headers are common with phonon since they keep changing
[15:19] <Stecchino> Riddell: I seem to be the only one of the Amarok devs to be having this problem though. Plenty of people have been using Qt4.6
[15:20] <Quintasan> \o
[15:20] <Stecchino> and the build error: http://pastebin.org/71038
[15:20] <Stecchino> build fails withing Phonon global header
[15:21] <Riddell> Stecchino: and do you have /usr/include/qt4/phonon/phononnamespace.h ?
[15:22] <Riddell> that should be part of libphonon-dev version 4:4.6.0-1ubuntu3~karmic1~ppa1
[15:22] <Stecchino> Riddell: yup
[15:22] <Riddell> then "/usr/include/qt4/phonon/Phonon/Global:1:42: error: ../../phonon/phononnamespace.h: No such file or directory " makes no sense if there is such a file
[15:22] <Stecchino> Riddell: there is something wrong with the phonon symlink
[15:23] <Stecchino> or rather, it should be a symlink or directory but it's a regular file
[15:24] <Riddell> /usr/include/qt4/phonon/Phonon -> .
[15:24] <Riddell> that one?
[15:24] <Stecchino> actually the one that it fails on /usr/include/qt4/phonon/Phonon/../../phonon
[15:25] <Stecchino> I don't know what that is supposed to be
[15:25] <Riddell> >ls /usr/include/qt4/phonon/Phonon/../../phonon/phononnamespace.h
[15:25] <Riddell> ls: cannot access /usr/include/qt4/phonon/Phonon/../../phonon/phononnamespace.h: No such file or directory
[15:25] <Riddell> weirdness
[15:25] <Stecchino> relative symlink problems me thinks
[15:26] <Stecchino> Phonon -> . which screws with Phonon/../
[15:26] <Stecchino> it ends up one level up in /usr/include
[15:27] <Stecchino> /usr/include/qt4/phonon/phonon seems to be a correct file albeit a weird one
[15:27] <Riddell> then a quick fix is   sudo ln -s /usr/include/qt4/phonon /usr/include/phonon  I think
[15:27] <Riddell> although it doesn't explain why I can compile amarok without issue
[15:28] <Stecchino> install mishap?
[15:28] <Riddell> the buildds have no problems compiling either
[15:28] <Stecchino> or perhaps the result of me trying to fix it with apt-get -i --reinstall libqt4-phonon-dev
[15:28] <Riddell> that shouldn't do anything (that package is empty anyway)
[15:29] <Stecchino> This doesn't look right: ii  phonon-backend-xine                  4:4.3.80-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa2
[15:30] <Stecchino> al the rest of dpkg -l | grep phonon is 4.6 though
[15:30] <Riddell> phonon-backend-xine isn't distributed as part of Qt so it has a different version number
[15:30] <Riddell> phonon releases are a mess
[15:30] <Stecchino> At the end: http://pastebin.org/71040
[15:31] <Stecchino> I would get sandsmark in here but he's afk
[15:31] <Stecchino> then you could slap him into cleaning up phonon releases
[15:33] <Riddell> he does well, it's trolltech's fault if anyone's
[15:34] <Stecchino> /usr/include/qt4/phonon/Phonon/Global << is one of the fancy headers for #include <ClassName>. Perhaps these are generated at make install?
[15:37] <Riddell> Stecchino: does adding that symlink fix it?
[15:39] <Stecchino> Riddell: yes
[15:48] <Riddell> Stecchino: I can recreate your problem but not if I run cmake with the arguments we use to build a package
[15:48] <Quintasan> trolltech is trolling then :)
[15:48] <Riddell> so something in this is working around it
[15:48] <Riddell> -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debian -DKDE4_BUILD_TESTS=false -DKDE_DISTRIBUTION_TEXT="Kubuntu packages" -DCMAKE_SKIP_RPATH=true -DKDE4_USE_ALWAYS_FULL_RPATH=false -DCONFIG_INSTALL_DIR=/usr/share/kde4/config -DDATA_INSTALL_DIR=/usr/share/kde4/apps -DHTML_INSTALL_DIR=/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML -DKCFG_INSTALL_DIR=/usr/share/kde4/config.kcfg -DLIB_INSTALL_DIR=/usr/lib -DSYSCONF_INSTALL_DIR=/etc
[15:48] <Riddell> don't know what though
[15:49] <Stecchino> Riddell: Amarok cmake I assume? Might be a stale cmake cache even though I deleted to fix
[15:50] <Stecchino> build type != debugfull might be the significant difference
[15:50] <Stecchino> or build_tests
[16:32] <ScottK> When is the next KDE release?
[16:32] <ScottK> Riddell: It looks like we've got a few changes piled up for another qt4-x11 upload.
[16:32] <ScottK> It might be nice to get that done well before we have a KDE release to package.
[16:33] <Riddell> we should work out what's going on with Stecchino's include problem with qt4-x11
[16:34] <Stecchino> I'm here if you need me
[16:34] <ScottK> Riddell: That too.
[16:34] <JontheEchidna> RC1 tagging is tomorrow
[16:36] <Riddell> I also have just packaged virtuoso 5.0.12 by popular demand, we should consider if we want to use that
[16:36] <ScottK> Better than indeterminate waiting on 6.0.1
[16:37] <Riddell> it would need a MIR of course but doesn't have any new depends
[16:47] <ScottK> Fortunately pitti is making those a lot less painful
[16:48] <ScottK> I just pinged kees on libssh
[16:51]  * Riddell smiles as "Simplified Main Inclusion Request process" arrives in his inbox
[16:53] <ejat> Riddell: so virtuoso package will release soon ? \0/
[17:06] <DasKreeCh> ejat: Not related  :)
[17:08] <ejat> DasKreeCh: <Riddell> I also have just packaged virtuoso 5.0.12 by popular demand, we should consider if we want to use that
[17:08] <Riddell> hope so
[17:08] <ejat> \0/
[17:32] <DasKreeCh> ejat: Ah Ok missed that :)
[17:56]  * ScottK installs kde 4.3.4 from karmic-backports.
[17:57] <Riddell> ScottK: amichair said that kdesdk got held back
[17:57] <ScottK> Did he dist-upgrade?
[17:58] <ScottK> Riddell: If he's on amd64, that's not fully built yet
[17:58] <Riddell> I'm not sure
[18:00] <ScottK> i386 just finished before the last publisher run
[18:15] <amichair> Riddell: I did, but then added that the mirror seemed to have been half-updated - switching to main servers got the rest of the packages
[18:15] <amichair> though I am indeed on amd64...
[18:16] <amichair> hmmm... I see there are some more packages available now... oh well. trickly trickle little packages...
[18:17] <ScottK> amd64 is still in progress.
[18:17] <amichair> ScottK: how does that work? each package is compiled and uploaded separately? not all built and then uploaded together?
[18:18] <ScottK> amichair: Yes.  It has to be since many of the later packages need the earlier ones to build.
[18:18] <ScottK> This is why we use the staging PPA.
[18:18] <ScottK> We don't have an equivalent for actual backports.
[18:19] <amichair> yes to which? all built first and then uploaded, or uploaded as they are built one by one?
[18:21] <seele> who was the travel agent canonical used to use before resfax? eyas or something? i cant remember how to spell it
[18:25] <amichair> ScottK: can't it pose a problem for users (myself?) to get only some of the packages, then a few hours later some more, etc.? the update operation doesn't have to be atomic?
[18:27] <ScottK> amichair: For third digit updates it's unlikely to be a problem.
[18:28] <amichair> ScottK: famous last words :-)
[18:28] <ScottK> amichair: There really isn't a way around it.
[18:29] <amichair> ScottK: I don't know anything about repos, but I thought u can first build and prepare everything offline, then just 'commit' the changes - not unlike version control systems. but I guess not.
[18:31] <amichair> I have much to learn!
[18:50] <ScottK> Arghhh!
[18:51] <ScottK> Riddell: Looks like we need another armel specific no nepomuk patch: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim-runtime/4:4.3.4-0ubuntu1~karmic1/+build/1425677/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-armel.kdepim-runtime_4:4.3.4-0ubuntu1~karmic1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[18:51] <amichair> ?
[18:56] <Riddell> ScottK: what causes that?
[18:56] <ScottK> Riddell: That's 4.3.4 kdepimlibs on armel.  You'll recall you did a no nepomuk patch on armel for one package right before karmic released.
[18:58] <ScottK> So I'll go with whatever was causing the other problem
[18:59] <Riddell> ScottK: based on the current conversation on release-team I think kdepim requires neopmuk in 4.4
[19:00] <ScottK> I suspect that's true, but this is 4.3 in Karmic.
[19:00] <ScottK> We dropped the no-nepomuk thing in Lucid already and it's fine
[19:00] <Riddell> do we care about arm backports that much?
[19:00] <ScottK> It bothers my sense of order.
[19:01] <ScottK> Do you remember what package is was you patched before?
[19:01]  * jussi01 hi 5's ScottK
[19:01]  * ScottK is a bit startled, but recovers
[19:01] <Riddell> I'm afraid I don't
[19:08] <ScottK> Found it.
[19:08] <ScottK> It was kdebase-runtime
[19:12] <ScottK> And it was soprano, not nepomuk
[19:43] <Quintasan> ScottK: Hmm I get "access denied" when uploading to REVU, any idea why?
[19:43] <ScottK> Nope
[19:43] <Quintasan> :S
[19:52] <jussi01> Quintasan: you forgot to set a pw somewhere?
[19:53] <Quintasan> jussi01: pw? I need a pw in dput config to upload to REVU?
[19:54] <jussi01> Quintasan: either that or you forgot to sign something - I meant that there has to be someway it knows its from you...
[19:54] <jussi01> but I havent used revu since the old days
[19:56] <Quintasan> http://pastebin.ca/1737787
[19:56] <Quintasan> :/
[20:00] <Quintasan> Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams/Kubuntu <-- can I add myself there?
[20:01] <Riddell> Quintasan: that page should be deleted, it was from before launchpad had teams
[20:01] <Quintasan> oh :D
[20:01] <jussi01> Quintasan: have you changed your ssh key since LP or wherever revu gets them from?
[20:02] <Quintasan> jussi01: nope, I always keep em in separate place
[20:24] <Quintasan> Riddell: What's this Messages.sh? You mentioned me it's missing some time ago and now same for colibri package.
[20:27] <Riddell> Quintasan: it's a script which generates the .pot translation templates
[20:33] <Quintasan> Urgh, doesn't sound interesting
[20:33] <nixternal> can you gdb a plasmoid? or strace one?
[20:34] <nixternal> or valgrind at that
[20:35] <nixternal> well damn, plasmoidviewer allows you to do just that...I was a bit worried there
[20:39] <ScottK> Quintasan: It's boring, but essential for GPL compliance.
[20:45] <amichair> ScottK: how long does this kde build/update take? it's been hours, and still some missing dependencies
[20:46] <ScottK> amichair: Part of the problem is that backports are a low priority for building and lots of other stuff has been going on today.
[20:46] <ScottK> We're close though.
[20:46]  * ScottK check
[20:48] <amichair> btw is this build progress publicly available?
[20:49] <ScottK> amichair: https://launchpad.net/builders
[20:49] <amichair> ScottK: coolness, thanks
[21:26] <ScottK> Riddell or JontheEchidna: When is the next 4.4 release tagged?  NCommander wants to get back invovled with Kubuntu packaging.
[21:27] <JontheEchidna> tomorrowish
[21:30] <Riddell> e-jat: virtuoso is in my PPA https://edge.launchpad.net/~jr/+archive/ppa but it has no init script and I'm not sure if it needs one
[21:31] <e-jat> Riddell: thanks
[21:37] <Riddell> e-jat: do you know if the virtuoso server needs to be running all the time?  or how I should test it?
[21:37] <ScottK> Riddell: Debian has a draft package in their svn.
[21:38] <ScottK> I'm guessing it has the right answer to this question
[21:42] <Riddell> ScottK: yeah it has an init script which doesn't work, at least not for virtuoso 5
[21:50] <nixternal> Riddell: http://trueg.wordpress.com/tag/virtuoso/
[21:51] <nixternal> I used the "Once More With Feeling" post to get it running on my trunk box
[21:52] <nixternal> http://vizzzion.org/blog/2009/10/virtuoso-here-i-come/ <- and of course this one
[21:53] <Lure> Riddell: can you review bug 502565 and give ACK?
[21:53] <Riddell> thanks nixternal
[21:54] <Lure> Riddell: only kde packages need exiv2 in main
[21:54] <Riddell> Lure: after I've had tea
[21:55] <Lure> Riddell: didn't 5 o'clock pass already in your timezone :-)
[21:56] <Lure> Riddell: virtuoso MIR might be fine (it is huge pile)
[21:56] <Lure> but MIR process just got easier
[21:57]  * Lure likes it
[22:00] <JontheEchidna> Installing virtuoso-server, virtuoso-driver and restarting nepomuk = success
[22:11] <ryanakca> shtylman: Did you have any luck with making the website text not look "slapped together" ?
[22:48] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: from my PPA?
[22:48] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: yeah
[22:48] <Riddell> rock
[23:06] <nixternal>  7643 nixterna  20   0  105m  73m 6152 S   71  3.7   0:57.79 virtuoso-t
[23:06] <nixternal> nice little hog
[23:07] <nixternal> temp1:       +71.5°C  (crit = +99.0°C)
[23:07] <nixternal> that's what I hate about nepomuk/virtuoso/strigi
[23:16] <JontheEchidna> it's taking 130 MB here doing the indexing
[23:17] <JontheEchidna> maybe it'll go down when it's done, but it's still somewhat of a disaster for lower-end computers
[23:21] <nixternal> yeah, no way we could run that on a netbook
[23:21] <nixternal> well we could, just don't expect it today
[23:22] <ScottK> 130MB isn't so bad.
[23:22] <ScottK> Unless you went with the 4GB SSD option.
[23:23] <ScottK> On netbooks, I suspect CPU will be more important than hard disk space.
[23:24] <nixternal> well the size isn't the issue as much as the taxing of the cpu
[23:24] <nixternal> as soon as I run nepomuk on my desktop, enable strigi...hold on, as the fans power up and start sucking in small animals
[23:26] <shtylman> ryanakca: havn't tried it... too bust with other things atm :)
[23:34] <shtylman> nixternal: that link for the applet doesn't work...
[23:34] <shtylman> I wanted to get the code and try it ... but :(
[23:35] <nixternal> shtylman: lp:plasma-applet-feedback
[23:40] <shtylman> nixternal: thanks
[23:41] <shtylman> nixternal: bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:plasma-applet-feedback": No such project: plasma-applet-feedback
[23:44] <nixternal> derr
[23:44] <nixternal> lp:kubuntu-feedback-applet
[23:45] <shtylman> :)
[23:49] <shtylman> no survey :(
[23:53] <nixternal> are you on karmic?


[04:43] <kees> doko: is there any way to tell a debian/ubuntu gcc build from a stock gcc build using only preprocessor magic? it looks like there's nothing different but a date in the __VERSION__ define.
[04:44] <kees> (specifically I'd like to tell stock 4.6 from ubuntu 4.6 since ubuntu moved the plugin headers around slightly)
[12:53] <Prutheus> Hello! I am working with GTK and libappindicator ... however, I want to change the icon of the indicator in my program dynamically ... like this: https://ghostbin.com/paste/jt9wd  but this is not working, how to solve my problem?
[13:19] <infinity> kees: By "plugin headers", you mean /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/6/ and the like?
[13:19] <infinity> kees: That sort of thing should be tested outside the compiler, not within (as in, cpp macros don't make sense for that)
[13:22] <infinity> kees: See, for example: https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commitdiff;h=6706074627da7734d21f0024b6f7fb58b5629d6b;hp=800938a1268309932c20dc523bb226bcab4bfe18
[13:22] <infinity> kees: (assuming you're doing the same silly thing we are, which is dropping stdinc, and then turning around and trying to recontruct it because we think we know better :P)
[17:27] <kees> infinity: I mean the headers in gcc-N-plugin-dev. the "c-common.h" file moved to c-family/ in gcc 4.7, but ubuntu's 4.6 moved it there early with https://sources.debian.net/src/gcc-4.6/4.6.3-14/debian/patches/pr45078.diff/
[17:28] <kees> infinity: which means that if I do a gcc version test in headers to find the right place to include c-common.h from, I can't use only a version test, since 4.6 stock and ubuntu builds have it in different places.
[19:58] <infinity> kees: Ahh.
[19:59] <infinity> kees: That similarly seems like a job for autoconf-style search tests, especially given upstream's joy of backporting to stable branches.
[20:02] <kees> infinity: yeah, kernel Kconfig is ... not friendly ... about such tests.
[20:02] <kees> but that's okay. near as I can tell, the only gcc 4.6 left on the planet not built from source are the Debian and Ubuntu packages. :) so I'll just continue to pretend that's the "real" 4.6
[20:03] <infinity> Heh.
[20:07] <infinity> kees: While I have you here, care to have a public opinion about armhf and PIE?  I recall the last time you and I spoke about it, you said ChromeOS does PIE on armhf and we should JFDI ourselves.  doko, on the other hand, says you expressed the opposite opinion to him. :P
[20:08] <infinity> (Bonus points if you had any numbers, even fuzzy ones)
[20:28] <Zta> nacc: Hi again =) I decided to go a somewhat different route: I created a docker image with all tools and dependencies and clone the sources. Then I added scripts to do all what we discussed earlier, with the exception of schroot; I build the package directly on the host (=dockered!) system. And I actually got something working (with the same procedure that did not work in schroot, strangely).
[20:31] <Zta> nacc: So all is good. Except when I decide update my sources and rebuild the package.  Then I get: dpkg-source: error: unwanted binary file: debian/aseprite/usr/bin/aseprite[...]  Should I just delete this directory manually?
[22:33] <kees> infinity: I think what doko remembers was me agreeing that I wasn't opposed to armhf staying non-PIE. That said, I think there's no good reason to stay non-PIE since there are more general registers on arm than i386, and the compiler can already float the PIE register around, so there's even less loss of performane.
[22:34] <kees> infinity: I think everyone should configure gcc with --enable-default-ssp and --enable-default-pie :)


[12:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92384 in brasero (universe) "[UVFe]  update to 0.5.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92384
[12:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92385 in Ubuntu "rare beryl crash at reloading Xserver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92385
[12:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92386 in postfix-policyd (universe) "postfix-policyd preseed has no effect on mysql-connect error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92386
[12:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92387 in mono (main) "MONO crash after system reported error." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92387
[12:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92388 in puredata (universe) "[apport]  pd crashed with SIGSEGV in glXMakeCurrentReadSGI()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92388
[12:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92390 in gossip-telepathy (universe) "Crash when choosing avatar" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92390
[01:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92391 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92391
[01:05] <bdmurray> pochu: compiz looks much better, thanks.
[01:05] <pochu> bdmurray: :)
[01:06] <pochu> bdmurray: don't you have any foreign bug by hand?
[01:10] <bdmurray> pochu: none obvious but I am a bit behind in the bugs mailing list
[01:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92392 in update-manager (main) "No progress bar in Update Manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92392
[01:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92393 in Ubuntu "[apport]  gnome-help crashed with SIGSEGV in vfprintf()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92393
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92394 in mythtv (multiverse) "[apport]  mythfrontend crashed with SIGSEGV in QApplication::~QApplication()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92394
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92395 in xchat (universe) "[apport]  xchat crashed with SIGSEGV in fgets()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92395
[01:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92396 in compiz (main) "[apport]  compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92396
[01:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92397 in glob2 (universe) "Crash when loading Tutorial in Level Editor" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92397
[01:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92399 in amule (universe) "[apport]  amule crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92399
[01:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92400 in amule (universe) "[apport]  amule crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92400
[01:45] <pochu> dup?
[01:45] <pochu> dup!
[01:45] <pochu> !dup
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:45] <pochu> !duplicate
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about duplicate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:45] <pochu> !duplicate > bdmurray
[01:47] <dsas> hmm, pochu I already duped that bug.
[01:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92401 in sudo (main) "regular user can't start admin application with sudo as specified in sudoers" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92401
[01:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92402 in webcalendar (universe) "removal: unfixed security vulnerabilities" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92402
[01:48] <bdmurray> speedy
[01:48] <pochu> dsas: :)
[01:49] <pochu> bdmurray: what about teaching ubotu about duplicates?
[01:50] <bdmurray> pochu: what would you have him say?
[01:50] <pochu> bdmurray: no idea, you are the Lord ;)
[01:50] <pochu> bdmurray: and even teaching him about foreign languages ;)
[01:51] <dsas> "pochu, duplicate filed, come and fix"
[01:51] <pochu> he can say: don't you what language is that? ping pochu xD
[01:51] <pochu> dsas: if I would know how... ;)
[01:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92403 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "Atheros support broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92403
[01:51] <bdmurray> !factoid
[01:51] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:51] <pochu> dsas: I'll take a look though, but probably it's a wx bug
[01:53] <dsas> pochu: People in ubuntu-ops can add new factoids, and the source code is on lp I think.
[01:53] <lifeless> it is
[01:54] <pochu> dsas: yep, another wx bug... or maybe a dup?
[01:55] <dsas> pochu: It probably is a dup, thinking about it there's lots of wx + amule bugs that have been filed I think.
[01:56] <pochu> dsas: yep
[02:04] <bdmurray> stgraber: have you tested bug 64927 like Tim was looking for
[02:04] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 64927 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Toshiba Satellite M70-CL3 doesn't resume from suspend to RAM" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/64927
[02:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92405 in gnome-terminal (main) "[Feisty]  gnome-terminal doesn't always redraw after switching desktops" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92405
[02:06] <bdmurray> stgraber: I also have a question about your last comment in 88400, so grab me tomorrow morning.
[02:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92406 in lyx (universe) "lyx can not save files on feisty on folders nested within the home folder" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92406
[02:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92407 in beryl-settings (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in infiniteRegion()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92407
[02:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92408 in Ubuntu "X11 does not support laptop lcd native resolution" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92408
[02:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92409 in xen-meta (universe) "Wrong grub default after installing ubuntu-xen-desktop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92409
[03:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92410 in cupsys (main) "Cupsys failed to install correctly " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92410
[03:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92411 in firefox (main) "firefox crash, may be from mpeg stream" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92411
[03:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92412 in gtkgl2 (universe) "Gnome Chess game can't find 3D libs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92412
[03:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92413 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash.. I think it's javascript" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92413
[03:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92414 in firefox (main) "cpu usage goes to 100% when using firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92414
[03:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92416 in openldap2.3 (main) "slapd do not start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92416
[03:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92417 in Ubuntu "OO Writer crash trying to select scanner" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92417
[03:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92418 in gnome-terminal (main) "control+A zooms out in gnome-terminal" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92418
[04:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92419 in ubiquity (main) "install crashed." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92419
[04:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92421 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92421
[04:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92420 in sshfs-fuse (universe) "sshfs crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92420
[04:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92422 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "kernel oops on bootup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92422
[04:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92423 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92423
[04:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92424 in amsn (universe) "[apport]  amsn crashed with SIGSEGV in Tk_PhotoPutBlock()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92424
[04:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92425 in acpid (main) "Sets deafult printk level to KERN_EMERG while loading modules" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92425
[04:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92426 in Ubuntu "control alt delete used but crashes ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92426
[04:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92427 in Ubuntu "latest update seems to have broken networking" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92427
[04:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92428 in Ubuntu "Feisty Fawn update loses access to root admin privelages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92428
[04:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92429 in ghex (universe) "Can't edit files using the numeric keypad" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92429
[04:58] <TheMuso> c
[04:58] <TheMuso> damn
[05:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92430 in xfmedia (universe) "xfmedia crash on filesystem avi playback" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92430
[05:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92431 in sdl-mixer1.2 (main) "Bad sound on SDL games" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92431
[05:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92432 in bzr (main) "index.html contains mainly broken links" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92432
[05:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92433 in feisty-session-splashes (main) "The newest splash is quite phallic..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92433
[05:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92434 in xserver-xgl (universe) "on starting up ogle beryl crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92434
[05:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92436 in network-manager (main) "Password is required twice after laptop sleep" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92436
[05:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92437 in bzr-svn (universe) "does not work in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92437
[06:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92438 in Ubuntu "gdesklets killed after last update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92438
[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92439 in Ubuntu "Unhelpful "Using specific hotkey driver" message in terminals while upgrading" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92439
[06:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92440 in beagle (main) "[apport]  IndexHelper.exe crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92440
[06:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92441 in update-manager (main) "update shows 73 available updates but fails to update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92441
[07:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92442 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92442
[07:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92444 in kde-guidance (main) "[apport]  displayconfig-restore.py crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92444
[08:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92445 in kde-systemsettings (main) "Unable to change the user image" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92445
[08:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92446 in beryl-manager (universe) "beryl shuts down" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92446
[08:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92447 in kde-systemsettings (main) "The accelerator A is used twice in Network Settings DNS Server tab" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92447
[08:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92448 in gftp (main) "Crash while browsing remote folders" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92448
[08:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92449 in usplash (main) "[apport]  usplash crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92449
[08:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92450 in gnumeric (main) "Gnumeric closes on opening a file. (with graph)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92450
[08:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92451 in fontconfig (main) "some installed fonts are not available" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92451
[09:15] <stgraber> bdmurray: I have just changed my laptop and then no have my toshiba one anymore :(
[09:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92452 in kdepim (main) "Akregator loses all rss feeds after update [feisty] " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92452
[09:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92453 in Ubuntu "error loading Human theme after upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92453
[09:28] <christof-kr> i'd like to build a package without optimization in order to be able to debug it properly. how would i build such a package? I have no idea where to start from or how to modify it
[09:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92454 in gedit (main) "gedit was crashed in hand-out mode printing " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92454
[09:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92455 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGFPE" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92455
[09:43] <dholbach> good morning
[09:47] <christof-kr> good morning
[09:52] <dholbach> hi christof-kr
[09:53] <thekorn> good morning dholbach
[09:53] <dholbach> hey thekorn
[09:54] <dholbach> thekorn: I thought about us writing some specs for bughelper that might turn into SoC projects - what do you think?
[09:54] <thekorn> sounds good!
[09:54] <christof-kr> is there a standard way to build a package without optimization (in order to be able to debug it properly)? or is it just "hacking" by grepping for -O2 and removing all references?
[09:55] <thekorn> i discussed with pochu last evining that we should write something like a Roadmap to organize the developing process a litle
[09:55] <dholbach> christof-kr:   DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="noopt nostrip" fakeroot apt-get source -b <package>
[09:55] <dholbach> thekorn: sounds like a great idea
[09:55] <christof-kr> dholbach:  thanks!
[09:56] <dholbach> thekorn: we should probably wiki-fy all the ideas we have in separate wiki pages, so people can easily comment on them
[09:56] <dholbach> thekorn: once they turn into pages of good quality we can turn them into specifications and link them on the roadmap
[09:57] <dholbach> my pet feature would be "get rid of re.<...> statements" ;-)
[09:57] <thekorn> wiki sounds the right place, we should also add the ideas mentioned in the bugreports
[09:58] <dholbach> probably, since some bugs (luckily we don't have that many yet) look like "dead material"
[09:58] <dholbach> a wiki might be a better place to discuss, enhance, ...
[09:58] <thekorn> we should leave RegEx and change into HTMLParse or something like that
[10:00] <dholbach> xpath statements :)))
[10:01] <thekorn> dholbach: what ever, everything is easier that RegEX!
[10:01] <dholbach> yeah :)
[10:02] <dholbach> i'm glad we all agree on that :)
[10:02] <thekorn> dholbach: is ther any timeframe for google-SoC?
[10:02] <dholbach> no idea
[10:02] <dholbach> doko and keybuk are the organisers on the Ubuntu end afaik
[10:03] <dholbach> the sooner we agree on a set of goals, specify them properly and make some of them a requirement for a bughelper SoC project, the better
[10:04] <dholbach> hey asac
[10:04] <dholbach> hey mvo
[10:09] <mvo> hey dholbach
[10:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92457 in audacity (universe) "[apport]  audacity crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92457
[10:10] <thekorn> dholbach: when you have some time, can you have a look at bug 89762. It's about adding a new program called "buginfo" as a direct interface to the "Bug"-class
[10:10] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 89762 in bughelper "RFE: Number of comments by <LP ID>" [Wishlist,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89762
[10:11] <dholbach> thekorn: ok
[10:12] <thekorn> i have also a patch against the current rev on bughelper.main, will post it
[10:14] <dholbach> neat-o - I'm just looking into a nother problem, I'll take a look at it asap
[10:16] <thekorn> dholbach: no problem, dont hurry, thanks
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92458 in Ubuntu "wireless lose signal frequently" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92458
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92459 in vmware-player (multiverse) "vmware-player broken after upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92459
[10:23] <giftnudel> Now that there are only 10 strings left (which are easy to fix), would a (German) translator fix bug #60527
[10:23] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 60527 in language-pack-gnome-de "xchat-gnome /me misbehaviour" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/60527
[10:25] <giftnudel> (I even provided the direct links to the wrong strings)
[10:25] <giftnudel> so I say 5 minutes at most
[10:26] <giftnudel> it works somehow
[10:27] <giftnudel> xchat-gnome
[10:28] <thekorn> giftnudel: aha, sorry i'm using xchat, and it works fine for me
[10:28] <giftnudel> yeah, it's only xchat gnome
[10:28] <giftnudel> and only the translations which are still cruft from breezy
[10:30] <thekorn> giftnudel: I'm wondering why "-%C10-%C11-%O$t$1" is translated into "%C22*%O$t$1" :)
[10:30] <giftnudel> yes, that is what I mean ... (it was like that in breezy's version and has not been fixed)
[10:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92460 in gnome-volume-manager (main) "GNOME disk mounter shows ugly characters (no disk name?)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92460
[10:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92461 in Ubuntu "IBM Thinkpad R60 does not hibernate" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92461
[10:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92462 in sound-juicer (main) "mp3 profile does not show" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92462
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92464 in lftp (main) "lftp 3.4.0 segfaults on "ls .."" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92464
[10:41] <dholbach> thekorn: pushed
[10:41] <dholbach> thekorn: GOOD WORK
[10:42] <thekorn> dholbach: thanks alot
[10:44] <dholbach> thekorn: at some stage I'd like to get rid of 'source package' almost everywhere
[10:44] <dholbach> it's pretty irksome to type something like    -T totem libxine.xo "some text" -p totem
[10:45] <dholbach> when it really shouldn't matter
[10:45] <dholbach> we have a lot of decision based on the source package in the code - at least it feels like that to me
[10:45] <thekorn> ah, I see
[10:45] <dholbach> the patch on bug 92322 looks quite good too
[10:46] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 92322 in bughelper "adding "--bugnr"-option to ./bughelper" [Wishlist,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92322
[10:46] <dholbach> maybe we can look into making the bug* scripts more concise in 0.2 too
[10:47] <thekorn> yeah, i think  bug 92322 might be a starting point for getting a mail-client plug-in etc
[10:47] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 92322 in bughelper "adding "--bugnr"-option to ./bughelper" [Wishlist,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92322
[10:47] <dholbach> like getting a result from lp/HTMLOperations putting it into some output class along with some options and then print out whatever was requested
[10:48] <dholbach> woah - cool idea :)
[10:49] <dholbach> pushed - gracias :)
[10:49] <thekorn> dholbach: the BugInfo class is a good point to start to get an output class in HTMLOperation
[10:50] <dholbach> thekorn: so you'd put it into HTLMOperations?
[10:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92465 in mythtv (multiverse) "[apport]  mythfilldatabase crashed with SIGSEGV in QApplication::~QApplication()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92465
[10:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92466 in beryl-manager (universe) "beryl doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92466
[10:51] <thekorn> well yeah in HTMLOperations, but as getting this more and more complex we should split this file
[10:51] <dholbach> I'd prefer the output in some other place
[10:51] <pochu> seb128: gnome-panel still crash when installing/removing apps, do you want another report? :)
[10:52] <seb128> pochu: nice joke yeah :p
[10:52] <dholbach> as it'd requires the commandLine thing, which doesn't feel right in the launchpadBugs package
[10:52] <huats> dholbach: Hi daniel !
[10:52] <thekorn> dholbach: ok ,soory i misunderstood you, output should be somewhere else
[10:52] <dholbach> hey huats
[10:52] <dholbach> huats: long time no see
[10:53] <huats> dholbach: long time indeed... I've been so busy...
[10:53] <dholbach> thekorn: ok - I wasn't sure if I misunderstood :))
[10:53] <dholbach> huats: you've not been alone with that ;-)
[10:53] <pochu> seb128: are you still missing a valgrind log?
[10:53] <seb128> pochu: yep
[10:53] <huats> dholbach: barely time to get around a computer for myself....
[10:53] <huats> dholbach: I am sure you've been too...
[10:54] <pochu> dholbach, thekorn: bug 89762 ^_^
[10:54] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 89762 in bughelper "RFE: Number of comments by <LP ID>" [Wishlist,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89762
[10:54] <pochu> :D
[10:54] <pochu> thanks guys!
[10:54] <dholbach> ROCK :)
[10:54] <pochu> one less bug for 0.2 ;)
[10:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92468 in Ubuntu "Synaptic "Apply Changes" Window Mis-aligned" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92468
[10:57] <pochu> well, and because I want to learn it :D
[10:57] <dholbach> rock on, pochu
[10:57] <giftnudel> python is so much fun
[10:57] <dholbach> yeah
[10:57] <giftnudel> I learned it for hubackup ;)
[10:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92467 in Ubuntu "Synaptic "Apply Changes" Window Mis-aligned" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92467
[10:57] <thekorn> pochu: python is easy, just started a month ago :)
[10:57] <dholbach> thekorn: i'll use your patch on your bug 90654 in .main
[10:57] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 90654 in bughelper "learn to deal with Launchpad being down/inaccessible/timing out" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90654
[10:57] <dholbach> thekorn: so we see how it works out for us in .main
[10:58] <pochu> thekorn: you rock ;)
[11:00] <thekorn> pochu: just open your own branch and start hacking- learning by doing is much better that reading thousand books
[11:00] <pochu> thekorn: ok, I'll do it :D
[11:00] <pochu> but first I want wesnoth 1.2.2 in feisty :)
[11:02] <dholbach> thekorn: hm, it seems you removed the fancy version string of bughelper
[11:02] <dholbach> thekorn: was there no equivalent in urllib2?
[11:03] <thekorn> dholbach: i'm using:
[11:03] <thekorn> +        version = "bughelper/%s (Python-urllib2/%s)" % (utils.find_version_number(),urllib2.__version__)
[11:03] <thekorn> +        req.add_header('User-agent',version)
[11:03] <dholbach> oh indeed
[11:03] <dholbach> sorry, yeah
[11:03] <pochu> dholbach: if you have a moment, can you take a look at bug 90407? Specially to the meta-package, it's my first one, and I'm not sure everything is fine
[11:03] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 90407 in wesnoth "UVF exception: Wesnoth 1.2 -> 1.2.2" [Wishlist,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90407
[11:04] <dholbach> pochu: i get all the uvf bugs into a mailbox - I'll look into them in a bit
[11:04] <pochu> dholbach: ok, thanks!
[11:05] <pochu> do you want me to assign it again to motu-uvf?
[11:05] <dholbach> yeah
[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92470 in knetworkmanager (main) "knetworkmanager not recognising my WiFi Card?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92470
[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92471 in Ubuntu "request for inclusion of the mtpaint package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92471
[11:09] <dholbach> thekorn: i also merged your safe_url patch
[11:10] <pochu> merge day! :)
[11:10] <thekorn> dholbach: ok, thanks
[11:10] <dholbach> thekorn: do you want me to close the bug or ask for comments and testing on it?
[11:11] <thekorn> we need comments and testing on that
[11:11] <dholbach> but maybe in other bug reports
[11:11] <dholbach> i should write a bughelper report anyway
[11:11] <dholbach> and mention it in there
[11:11] <thekorn> dholbach: cool!#
[11:11] <dholbach> i'm just a bit too busy atm
[11:20] <thekorn> ok, have to leave for lunch now, lots of CeBiT traffic around of Hannover :)
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92472 in xbindkeys-config (universe) "[apport]  xbindkeys-config crashed with SIGSEGV in middle_get_key()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92472
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92473 in bittornado (main) "/var/crash/_usr_bin_btdownloadgui.bittornado.1000.crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92473
[11:26] <christof-kr> hehe, they told in the radio that the main roads to CeBiT are one-way this morning =)
[11:28] <giftnudel> christof-kr: they are always like that
[11:29] <giftnudel> christof-kr: it's amazin, even the highways are one way in the morning and you can only go to the cebit and in the evening one-way back away
[11:30] <christof-kr> yes, the messeschnellweg
[11:30] <giftnudel> It always feels bad to drive on the "wrong" side ;)
[11:30] <christof-kr> i've never been to the cebit yet, though i don't live far away from hannover now
[11:31] <giftnudel> take the train or strassenbahn or bus or whatever but never the car ;)
[11:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92474 in cups-pdf (universe) "pdf-documents created by cups pdf do not contain text anymore" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92474
[11:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92475 in Ubuntu "[apport]  gconf-helper crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92475
[11:31] <christof-kr> feels kind of "brittish" ;)?
[11:31] <giftnudel> yeah
[11:32] <christof-kr> i think i'll stay at home right away =)
[11:32] <giftnudel> actually, it's not that interesting
[11:33] <giftnudel> you can go "ah" and "oh" and "uh" but that's really all, as you can't take the stuff with you anyway
[11:34] <christof-kr> and even if you could theoretically buy it there... as a poor student, I couldn't have
[11:34] <christof-kr> so it would be "ah, oh, uh... d'oh!"
[11:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92477 in gnucash (universe) "Gnucash uninstallable due to dependency on libgtkhtml3.8-15 (>=3.13.6)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92477
[11:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92476 in Ubuntu "Include NEW package: netbeans5.5" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92476
[11:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92478 in gnome-power-manager (main) "In Feisty Power Manager cannot control brightness on an sony vaio" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92478
[11:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92479 in gaim (main) "gaim will crash when closing chat window after using send to" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92479
[12:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92481 in eclipse (universe) "[feisty]  eclipse should not have hard-coded dependency on gij" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92481
[12:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92482 in Ubuntu "NumLock gets enabled unexpectedly on my laptop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92482
[12:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92483 in libnotify (main) "notify-send not working from acpi-scripts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92483
[12:20] <dholbach> bzr branch <branch URL or branch directory> <new directory>
[12:20] <dholbach> you don't need the "<new directory>" but can add it to change the name to better recognize the difference
[12:21] <pochu> dholbach: do I need an ssh key?
[12:21] <pochu> *a
[12:21] <dholbach> no
[12:21] <pochu> ah, ok :)
[12:21] <dholbach> just if you want to publish your branch on LP
[12:21] <pochu> dholbach: yep, it's for that
[12:22] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bzr
[12:23] <pochu> looking :)
[12:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92485 in restricted-manager (universe) "no drivers listed, enable button broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92485
[12:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92486 in Ubuntu "[SYNC REQUEST]  libdatrie (0.1.1-4) - debian main sid -> to ubuntu main" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92486
[01:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92488 in Ubuntu "Lost USB Cable Modem Detection After Dapper" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92488
[01:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92489 in gnomesword (universe) "[feisty]  unmet dependencies (libgtkhtml3.8-15)" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92489
[01:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92491 in basket (universe) "basket crashes on start up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92491
[01:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92493 in desktop-effects (main) "scale plugin default corner" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92493
[01:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92494 in php-imap (universe) "Package name incorrect" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92494
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92495 in python-distutils-extra (universe) "domain=... does not get respected by intltool-update -> po/untitled.pot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92495
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92498 in restricted-manager (universe) "breaks X for ati radeon 330m/340m/350m (rs200 IGP)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92498
[01:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92496 in democracyplayer (universe) "[apport]  democracyplayer crashed with TypeError in __new__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92496
[01:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92499 in xalan (universe) "xalan man page document incorrect options" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92499
[01:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92500 in synaptic (main) ""apply" was greyed out. " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92500
[01:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92501 in thunar (main) "Thunar crashes when "clear" button is clicked, in bulk-rename mode" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92501
[01:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92502 in metacity (main) "[apport]  metacity crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92502
[01:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92503 in firefox (main) "after install epiphany browser and galeon browser the firefox crash everyday" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92503
[02:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92504 in wallpaper-tray (universe) "[apport]  wallpaper-tray crashed with SIGSEGV in f_thumbnail_icon()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92504
[02:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92505 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_is_a()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92505
[02:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92506 in pcmanfm (universe) "UVF exception: Please sync pcmanfm (<IP_ADDRESS>-1) from debian testing or unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92506
[02:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92509 in gtk-gnutella (universe) "Edgy (AMD64) Outdated version not runnable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92509
[02:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92510 in kmplayer (main) "[apport]  kxineplayer crashed with SIGSEGV in xine_event_dispose_queue()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92510
[02:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92511 in Ubuntu "Power outage interups downloads" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92511
[02:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92512 in qiv (universe) "Qiv crashes at startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92512
[02:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92513 in easytag (universe) "Easytag" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92513
[02:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92516 in beagle (main) "[apport]  IndexHelper.exe crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92516
[02:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92514 in vino (main) "[apport]  vino-server crashed with SIGSEGV in vino_input_init()" [High,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92514
[03:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92517 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in pthread_mutex_unlock()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92517
[03:02] <bddebian> Boo
[03:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92515 in xfe (universe) "Several new x-file-explorer (xfe) upstream versions released (0.99 latest), please package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92515
[03:04] <ogra> bee
[03:04] <bddebian> ogra: :-)
[03:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92519 in firefox (main) "Windows Domain Authentication Crashes Firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92519
[03:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92521 in xfce4-terminal (main) "[apport]  xfce4-terminal crashed with SIGSEGV in free() while typing a Unicode value (dup-of: 89524)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92521
[03:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92522 in amarok (main) "[apport]  amarokapp crashed with SIGSEGV in KInstance::dirs()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92522
[03:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92523 in banshee (universe) "Banshee craches on start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92523
[03:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92524 in restricted-manager (universe) "Breaks X when disabling fglrx" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92524
[03:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92525 in Ubuntu "Laptop problems with acpi and cpu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92525
[03:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92527 in libx11 (main) "[fiesty]  XMoveWindow Function in xlib" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92527
[03:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92529 in drupal-theme-unconed (universe) "[Remove]  Remove drupal themes for drupal 4.5 from feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92529
[03:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92530 in nautilus (main) "Nautilus crash when trying display special svg file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92530
[03:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92531 in Ubuntu "Herd 5 Iso Install Disk Partitioning Defective" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92531
[03:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92526 in kdepim (main) "KOrganizer Calendar - event notification greys out Email option" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92526
[03:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92528 in i810switch (universe) "Please patch i810switch to work with i915" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92528
[03:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92532 in spca5xx (universe) "SPCA561 - Genius VideoCam Express V2 messed up in Kubuntu Feisty Herd5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92532
[03:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92533 in Ubuntu "ISO Installer Crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92533
[03:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92534 in openoffice.org (main) "oowriter quit when mouse move on the picture's "right-click popup menu"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92534
[03:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92535 in Ubuntu "camera:// does not mount camera" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92535
[04:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92538 in libgpod (main) "python-gpod should depend on python-eyed3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92538
[04:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92539 in sbackup (universe) "[apport]  sbackupd crashed with EOFError in upgrade_tdir()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92539
[04:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92541 in kdegraphics (main) "kooka won't select scan device" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92541
[04:21] <pochu> hi fernando :)
[04:23] <bdmurray> bug 92511
[04:23] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 92511 in Ubuntu "Power outage interups downloads" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92511
[04:23] <asac> http://librarian.launchpad.net/6807256
[04:24] <asac> bug 89267
[04:24] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 89267 in firefox "system was running with high cpu usage as I was doing other things, whilst using firefox" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89267
[04:25] <bdmurray> asac: I've done a couple of firefox retraces recently but wasn't sure what state to put the bug in after that.
[04:27] <asac> bdmurray: bdmurray if they are good but have no title (e.g. significant trace elements) set to NeedsInfo with tag mt-needsummary
[04:27] <asac> crashers are importance high for us
[04:28] <asac> you can also look for existing MASTER bugs
[04:28] <bdmurray> asac: okay, I don't recall seeing the mt-needsummary tag in the wiki.
[04:28] <asac> and if there is one with the same trace (e.g. same title signature)
[04:28] <asac> mark as dupe
[04:28] <asac> yes ... its mozilla specific
[04:28] <asac> mt-needssummary
[04:29] <bdmurray> How do you classify a MASTER bug?
[04:29] <asac> master bugs need either a testcase
[04:29] <asac> or there need to be at least one duplicate
[04:29] <asac> then we make one MASTER and move it to state Confirmed
[04:30] <asac> with initial tag mt-upstream -> meaning we need upstream triage
[04:30] <asac> if unsure if its worth a master ask me
[04:30] <asac> sometimes i mark bugs that not yet have a dupe as master, but that should be the exception imo
[04:31] <asac> marking master -> add MASTER to title
[04:31] <asac> master bugs are not yet documented on wiki
[04:32] <asac> but tags are
[04:32] <asac> procedure for master bug still has to evolve
[04:32] <bdmurray> asac: indcidentally the wiki has it needsummary not needssummary
[04:32] <asac> mt-needsummary is the right
[04:33] <asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Tags
[04:33] <asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/States
[04:34] <asac> we use mt-need as prefix for a bunch ... not 'mt-needs' :)
[04:35] <bdmurray> asac: great, thanks for the information
[04:35] <asac> bdmurray: np ... thanks for help triaging bug flow :)
[04:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92543 in freespeak (universe) "package freespeak doesn't start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92543
[04:39] <asac> bdmurray: there are a bunch retraces needed for x86_64 ... so feel free :)
[04:41] <bdmurray> asac: okay, I'll do that in a bit.  I'm having some hardware / software issues with my desktop at the moment.
[04:46] <asac> bdmurray: sure ... just click on the link on the tags page for mt-needretrace to see them
[04:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92544 in Ubuntu "vlc player: volume controller missing on feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92544
[04:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92546 in apt (main) "apt tools remove upline dependencies" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92546
[04:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92547 in Ubuntu "Can't Play MP3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92547
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92548 in Ubuntu "Burn error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92548
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92549 in kde-guidance (main) "displayconfig-restore.py crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92549
[05:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92550 in kde-guidance (main) "Powermanager crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92550
[05:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92551 in Ubuntu "multiple applications chrash on software update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92551
[05:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92552 in microcode.ctl (multiverse) "microcode.ctl.postinst needs updated MC_ID" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92552
[05:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92553 in linux-meta (main) "No kernel debug image meta packages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92553
[05:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92554 in debconf (main) "Adept Updater "Could not commit changes" of x11-common upgrade." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92554
[05:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92555 in ubiquity (main) "install crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92555
[05:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92556 in debconf (main) "[apport]  frontend crashed with SIGSEGV in xcall_QVBoxLayout()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92556
[05:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92557 in firefox (main) "Crash viewing Kernel Traffic" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92557
[05:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92558 in evolution (main) "The Clock panel's Appointments and Tasks calendar gives incorrect times for Evolution appointments after Daylight Savings Time" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92558
[05:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92559 in Ubuntu "Create Launcher freezed everything" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92559
[05:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92560 in ntp (main) "ntpd fills syslog with permissions errors" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92560
[05:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92561 in gcompris (main) "gcompis crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92561
[05:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92562 in gnome-vfs2 (main) "[apport]  gnome-vfs-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in gnome_vfs_close_cancellable()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92562
[05:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92563 in Ubuntu "x broken in feisty with radeon driver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92563
[05:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92564 in xchat-gnome (main) ".po file output when starting private chat" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92564
[06:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92565 in gnome-applets (main) "Clock applet alignment for date and time don't match up on vertical panel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92565
[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92566 in usplash (main) "[apport]  usplash crashed with SIGILL (dup-of: 88915)" [High,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92566
[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92567 in Ubuntu "nvidia ethernet LAN at 20 KB per second" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92567
[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92568 in amarok (main) "[apport]  amarokapp crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92568
[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92569 in libspf2 (universe) "Intermittent incorrect SPF results" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92569
[06:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92570 in network-manager-vpnc (universe) "nm-applet dissapears after connecting to vpn" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92570
[06:34] <slytherin> Is there any award for being first to log a bug on a package? And I think it is going ot be high priority.
[06:35] <yuriy> slytherin: a *hug* maybe
[06:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92571 in bzr-svn (universe) "push to svn fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92571
[06:35] <yuriy> but only if you fix it too :P
[06:36] <christof-kr> hehe
[06:36] <slytherin> yuriy: Then I would ask two hugs. Anyway, I am going to log 2 bugs. So better be ready. :-)
[06:36] <slytherin> yuriy: done with one, second is coming
[06:37] <slytherin> yuriy: too bad I am not the first one :-(
[06:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92572 in usplash-theme-ubuntu (main) "Progress bar misaligned at 640x480 resolution" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92572
[06:44] <slytherin> Ubugtu is slow today
[06:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92575 in gnome-utils (main) "[apport]  gnome-system-log crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_tree_row_reference_new_proxy()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92575
[06:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92573 in restricted-manager (universe) "xorg.conf is updated before driver installation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92573
[06:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92574 in gnome-panel (main) "happened while starting Openoffice Writer from a .odt File" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92574
[06:47] <slytherin> yuriy: 92573 is mine :-)
[06:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92576 in libsdl-sound1.2 (universe) "libsdl-sound1.2 depends non-existing libdirectfb-0.9-24" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92576
[06:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92577 in restricted-manager (universe) "Should not offer binary drivers for all Radeon cards" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92577
[06:54] <slytherin> dholbach: ping
[06:55] <dholbach> slytherin: pong
[06:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92578 in gnome-terminal (main) "workspace switch causes empty terminal" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92578
[06:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92579 in firefox (main) "Firefox Crashed Executing Javascript" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92579
[06:56] <slytherin> dholbach: looks like very few people use gnome-phone-manager but can you please take a look at bug 87592
[06:56] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 87592 in gnome-phone-manager "gnome-phone-manager shoud depend on libopenobex1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87592
[06:57] <dholbach> slytherin: ok, I'll fix that in a bit
[06:57] <dholbach> slytherin: i'll do it for gnome-bluetooth too
[06:58] <slytherin> dholbach: thanks :-)
[06:59] <slytherin> dholbach: I am getting crashers in telepathy-blue so I thought I would use gnome-phone-manager. :-)
[06:59] <dholbach> yeah
[06:59] <dholbach> it seems abandoned upstream :-(
[07:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92581 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "nvidia-glx-legacy doesn't disable composite extension automatically on installation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92581
[07:04] <dholbach> hmmmmmmm
[07:04] <dholbach> configure does not like the "new" openobex
[07:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92582 in vbetool (main) "[apport]  vbetool crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92582
[07:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92583 in pype (universe) "pype crashed on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92583
[07:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92584 in pype (universe) "pype crashed on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92584
[07:08] <slytherin> dholbach: what is the error?
[07:09] <slytherin> dholbach: I mean can it be corrected?
[07:09] <dholbach> looking into it
[07:10] <dholbach> ok, gnome-bluetooth is done - looking into gnome-phone-manager
[07:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92585 in usplash (main) "[apport]  usplash crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92585
[07:11] <dholbach> that way we can get rid of two obex implementations in main
[07:11] <dholbach> and remove one from the archive (probably)
[07:11] <slytherin> dholbach: yup :-)
[07:17] <dholbach> slytherin: looking good - the the openobex check in aclocal.m4 was outdated
[07:17] <slytherin> dholbach: Cool.
[07:18] <dholbach> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[07:18] <dholbach>   libopenobex-1.0-0
[07:18] <dholbach> ROCK
[07:18] <dholbach> :-)
[07:18] <dholbach> uploaded
[07:19] <slytherin> dholbach: No, I will update test plan tomorrow.
[07:20] <dholbach> :)
[07:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92587 in Ubuntu "Won't boot on Gateway MX3416, stops at Network init" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92587
[07:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92589 in apt-listchanges (main) "[apport]  apt-listchanges crashed with TypeError in make_frontend()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92589
[07:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92588 in k3b (main) "k3b fails to burn with wodim" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92588
[07:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92590 in Ubuntu "Installer crashed/ grub install fail code 1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92590
[07:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92591 in rhythmbox (main) "[apport]  rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92591
[07:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92592 in Ubuntu "Suspend in edgy causes file system corruption" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92592
[07:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92594 in Ubuntu "repeate rate problem, sometimes repeats character many times while typing. " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92594
[08:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92595 in Ubuntu "kubuntu default look'n feel should be better" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92595
[08:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92596 in avidemux (multiverse) "MPEG muxer unable to cope with variable frame rate" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92596
[08:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92597 in mythtv (multiverse) "[apport]  mythtranscode crashed with SIGSEGV in QApplication::~QApplication()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92597
[08:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92598 in gnucash (universe) "Broken dependency" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92598
[08:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92599 in xorg (main) "unable to set proper screen refresh rate" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92599
[08:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92601 in amarok (main) "[apport]  amarokapp crashed with SIGSEGV in KInstance::dirs()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92601
[08:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92600 in firefox (main) "[feisty]  Firefox Crashed " [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92600
[08:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92603 in gnomebaker (universe) "Feisty: Installation fails [Depends: libdbus-1-2 (>= 0.60)] " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92603
[08:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92609 in totem (main) "Totem-mozilla can't start video playback." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92609
[08:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92607 in Ubuntu "using "ctrl + mouse scroll wheel" for zooming is inconsistent in different application" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92607
[08:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92610 in flumotion (universe) "[apport]  flumotion-worker crashed with AttributeError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92610
[08:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92611 in democracyplayer (universe) "Crash at Playing Any Video" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92611
[08:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92612 in flumotion (universe) "[apport]  flumotion-manager crashed with AttributeError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92612
[08:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92613 in glosstex (universe) "glosstex depends on tetex and cannot be installed with texlive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92613
[08:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92614 in tango-icon-theme (main) "vrms doesn't like to tango" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92614
[09:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92617 in Ubuntu "Totem-gstreamer can't play indeo5 files." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92617
[09:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92618 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92618
[09:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92619 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "linux 2.6.20-11 packages are broken (only meta packages seem to exist)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92619
[09:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92620 in gaim (main) "gaim crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92620
[09:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92621 in synaptic (main) "Synaptic Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92621
[09:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92622 in ndiswrapper-1.1 (main) "[REMOVE]  Please remove ndiswrapper-1.1 from archives" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92622
[09:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92623 in Ubuntu "gthumb cups printing transparency" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92623
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92625 in cupsys (main) "HP Laser Jet 4250 is not listed in CUPS Add Printer Model/Driver Web interface" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92625
[09:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92624 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92624
[09:38] <pochu> thekorn: wrong channel :D
[09:39] <thekorn> indeed!
[09:39] <thekorn> just playing around with xchat :)
[09:39] <pochu> hehe
[09:40] <pochu> thekorn: then you can try to reproduce xchat bugs :)
[09:40] <pochu> I can't here in feisty :)
[09:40] <pochu> the famous 'xchat crashes on quit' ;)
[09:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92626 in gksu (main) "[apport]  gksu crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_draw_pixbuf()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92626
[09:40] <thekorn> I'm also on feisty
[09:41] <pochu> I think we should just close all of them and say: 'fixed in Feisty' :) but I think there was someone with feisty :S
[09:41] <pochu> I have to take a look
[09:42] <thekorn> why are people complaining about crashers? - i didn't have any
[09:42] <thekorn> not in xchat, not in firefox
[09:43] <pochu> :)
[09:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92628 in libglib-perl (main) "libglib-perl-1.120 running with 2.12.4 but built with Glib 2.10.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92628
[09:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92629 in network-manager (main) "Gnome-network Manager randomly disconnects from Wireless" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92629
[09:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92630 in rhythmbox (main) "a crash when opening songs from samsung yp-u1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92630
[09:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92631 in amarok (main) "[apport]  amarokapp crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92631
[09:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92632 in f-spot (main) "[apport]  f-spot.exe crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92632
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92633 in gnucash (universe) "Needs libgnomeprintui2.2-dev build-dependency" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92633
[10:00] <crimsun> bug 75398
[10:00] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 75398 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Regression: Fan does not come on due to ACPI problems" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/75398
[10:08] <_lemsx1_> Bug #54854, #74256 is very simple to fix. just add gtk2-engines-pixbuf as a dependency to the package and redo
[10:08] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 54854 in gray-theme "Gray theme is not displayed correctly" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/54854
[10:08] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 74256 in gray-theme "Missing dependency for theme (dup-of: 54854)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/74256
[10:08] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 54854 in gray-theme "Gray theme is not displayed correctly" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/54854
[10:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92637 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92637
[10:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92639 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "keyboard and mouse interrupts irregular" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92639
[10:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92645 in Ubuntu "Herd 5 Alternative CD fails to detect configured md raid device" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92645
[10:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92646 in Ubuntu "Wifi not working on MSI S262 with Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92646
[10:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92647 in hal (main) "hal takes about 60 seconds to start up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92647
[10:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92636 in beagle (main) "[apport]  IndexHelper.exe crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92636
[10:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92644 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "disable NMI watchdog by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92644
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92634 in rosetta "There is no possibility to translate Ubuntu in Belarusian Latin language with Rosetta" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92634
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92635 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Macbook does not sleepmacbook" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92635
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92641 in Ubuntu "System doesn't reboot or shutdown" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92641
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92642 in fuse (main) "wrong ownership of /dev/fuse" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92642
[10:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92638 in gcc-defaults (main) "gcc mudflap feature is broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92638
[10:27] <tuppa> morning
[10:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92649 in Ubuntu "(Feisty) Amarok crashes when trying to install MP3 support fix released doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92649
[10:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92650 in compiz (main) "compiz.real.crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92650
[10:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92651 in compiz (main) "compiz.real.crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92651
[10:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92648 in gnome-panel (main) "no menu item for About Edubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92648
[10:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92652 in Ubuntu "C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92652
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92653 in apport (main) "Reduced bug reports may by actually larger than the full ones" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92653
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92654 in kismet (universe) "[apport]  kismet_server crashed with SIGSEGV in ()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92654
[10:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92657 in compiz (main) "Set xlibmesa LD_PRELOAD when Xgl is present" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92657
[10:47] <JamieFox> I'm wondering what to do about bug #90410. The bug as reported seems to be fixed in Feisty, but I haven't tried to confirm it in Edgy to be sure that it isn't just something peculiar about the reporter's system.
[10:47] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 90410 in mozilla-thunderbird "Crash on email save as, with attachment error" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90410
[10:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92656 in evolution (main) "[apport]  evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in html_object_get_left_margin()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92656
[10:49] <JamieFox> In the process I've identified a related but separate IMAP-specific bug in Thunderbird. Should I open a new bug for that and change the existing bug to 'fix released'?
[10:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92659 in gnome-media (main) "[apport]  gnome-volume-control crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92659
[10:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92660 in ltsp-manager (universe) "[apport]  ltsp-manager crashed with TypeError in get_videodrivers()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92660
[10:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92658 in ubuntu-docs (main) "debian/copyright information is incorrect" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92658
[11:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92662 in beagle (main) "[apport]  BeagleDaemon.exe crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92662
[11:04] <bdmurray> JamieFox: A new bug sounds good for the IMAP issue
[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92663 in gksu (main) "[apport]  gksu crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92663
[11:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92661 in gtk+2.0 (main) "Make the toolbar/statusbar font smaller" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92661
[11:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92665 in initramfs-tools (main) "Herd 5 booting on a Compaq nx7400 fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92665
[11:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92667 in Ubuntu "bad seing of the Desktop on a DELL and the live cd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92667
[11:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92668 in mail-notification (universe) "[apport]  mail-notification crashed with SIGSEGV in strcmp()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92668
[11:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92671 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92671
[11:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92670 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Save email from IMAP folder fails silently if filename contains invalid characters" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92670
[11:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92672 in exaile (universe) "[apport]  exaile.py crashed with TypeError in __init__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92672
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92674 in xboard (universe) "Crash when loading a pgn file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92674


[00:02] <Trevinho> rbasak: I wonder if there's a way to provide such thing though, as per what is said there it looks like that we can't just trust the last cert there... No idea if we could accept for 20.04 to just do what nss did then (if the cert is there, then it's trusted)
[00:04] <rbasak> Trevinho: in that case, maybe we need to revert and then not try again?
[00:05] <Trevinho> rbasak: yeah, well... We'd have such scenario to cover anyways, at next LTS update, so I think it's better to think about it
[00:06] <rbasak> I commented on the bug with some questions
[00:09] <Trevinho> it's weird though, I'm quite sure I've tested with required_certificate pam setting, and in my setup only the issuer certificate is trusted, and did work..
[07:33] <_hc> I was here yesterday asking about androguard 3.4.0.  It seem the autopkgtest ran again, but failed in the same way: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/hirsute/update_excuses.html#androguard
[07:33] <_hc> I believe someone said that's because the runner has too little memory
[07:42] <Unit193> Well that's unfortunate..  I'm just a lowly MOTU, so I can't tell you a lot more really.
[08:09] <ginggs> _hc: i've opened the MR, now need someone from ~ubuntu-release to review
[08:41] <_hc> thanks
[14:01] <ItzSwirlz> Preparing to unpack .../281-libreoffice-writer_1%3a7.1.2~rc1-0ubuntu1_arm64.deb
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[14:02] <ItzSwirlz> Unpacking libreoffice-writer (1:7.1.2~rc1-0ubuntu1) over (1:7.0.4~rc2-0ubuntu3)
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[14:02] <ItzSwirlz> what have i done to my raspi lol
[14:02] <Odd_Bloke> You'll find out in 36 hours when the SD card catches up :p
[14:06] <ItzSwirlz> Oh don't worry, it's only 2 GB RAM.
[14:06] <ItzSwirlz> fr I need to build stuff and i forget to update
[16:21] <bem22> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/66694821/how-to-implement-and-set-as-default-a-custom-bluez-agent1-in-c can anyone help with this issue please?