[12:09] <coachJ> i changed the default browser to Firefox in Kcontrol ctr, but when I click a link in an email it still uses Konquorer, why?
[12:10] <coachJ> anyone?
[12:13] <centyx> ARE U READY!?
[12:13] <centyx> oh sorry
[12:14] <bobbyyu> I have a problem: when I load adept, it says it's already running when it's not
[12:19] <bobbyyu> Looks like no one can help me
[12:20] <LjL> bobbyyu: does "ps aux | grep -i adept" show anything?
[12:20] <centyx> too late!
[12:21] <LjL> well, he *was* still here when i asked
[12:21] <centyx> LjL: heh, I know
[12:21] <centyx> he was just an empty shell
[12:21] <centyx> he'd already given up
[12:21] <centyx> given in
[12:21] <LjL> heh
[12:24] <cox377_> does anyone here use the kubuntu wireless assistant?
[12:24] <h3sp4wn> cox377_: I think wpa_gui is the best wireless assistant (graphical)
[12:24] <h3sp4wn> !info wpa_gui
[12:24] <ubotu> Package wpa_gui does not exist in dapper
[12:24] <cox377_> I'm just using the default one on install for kubuntu
[12:24] <h3sp4wn> !info wpa_gui edgy
[12:24] <cox377_> Dammit
[12:24] <ubotu> Package wpa_gui does not exist in edgy
[12:25] <cox377_> thing is, after u spoke to "knob" earlier.. which was me i got the modprob working fine under ndiswrapper
[12:25] <h3sp4wn> Its stupid network manager doesn't work properly and they don't include the official wpa_supplicant gui
[12:25] <crimsun> !info wpagui edgy
[12:25] <ubotu> wpagui: GUI for wpa_supplicant. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.5.4-2 (edgy), package size 94 kB, installed size 220 kB
[12:25] <h3sp4wn> crimsun: perfect
[12:25] <cox377_> but.. it doesnt connect on start up
[12:26] <Tommy2k4> livecd installer is taking forever to partition the drive
[12:26] <Distro^Junkie> how big a drive ?
[12:27] <crimsun> Tommy2k4: use the alternate installer, then. It should take a minute max, in the livecd, if things are working correctly.
[12:27] <Tommy2k4> 84gb drive
[12:27] <Tommy2k4> or around that
[12:27] <Distro^Junkie> I got a 250 gig and it didn't take all that long
[12:28] <h3sp4wn> cox377_: Have you thought of trying knetworkmanager (it doesn't work well for me but may for you)
[12:28] <Tommy2k4> it had problems just booting to the livecd though
[12:28] <Tommy2k4> buffer i/o error on device dm-1 at block<PHONE_NUMBER>
[12:28] <Tommy2k4> any amount of errrors like that
[12:28] <cox377_> h3sp4wn: ummm i shall give it a go mate
[12:29] <h3sp4wn> cox377_: ndiswrapper works really well with hotplug I have been liking it more recently
[12:29] <h3sp4wn> cox377_: Other than that I can tell you to just set it up from the commandline
[12:29] <cpk2> anyone know how to set up a mx record for postfix?
[12:29] <Distro^Junkie> Tommy2k4: sounds like you may have some bad blocks on your hard drive
[12:30] <Tommy2k4> yea
[12:30] <Tommy2k4> i think my primary master is b0rked
[12:30] <Tommy2k4> but i boot windows ( & installing kubuntu) on primary slave so it shouldnt be a problem should it?
[12:30] <h3sp4wn> cpk2: Running your own dns server or someone elses ?
[12:32] <Distro^Junkie> Tommy2k4: naww you should be ok
[12:36] <satafterh> what do i use to set up my dsl connection(password)
[12:38] <cpk2> h3sp4wn: i have a domain name from dyndns
[12:39] <h3sp4wn> cpk2: It took me ages to work out how to decently make sure that my dndns ip updated propely I presume you just set the mx from that site
[12:39] <cpk2> h3sp4wn: mx record from dyndns costs money =\
[12:40] <h3sp4wn> maybe just get a proper domain they are very cheap these days
[12:41] <Hawkwind> Yeah you can get a domain for $10 a year.  Then renewal is cheaper than that sometimes
[12:49] <MrBallZ> hi, does anyone have problems with Samba on Dapper 6.06 ???  I've tried to share a folder but not working ... any sugestions ?
[12:50] <h3sp4wn> MrBallZ: manually editting smb.conf ?
[12:51] <MrBallZ> that could be something .... :P
[12:51] <h3sp4wn> That is the way I would do it
[12:52] <h3sp4wn> (wouldn't use any gui stuff it - its not that hard to do)
[12:53] <icedragon1> What do I need to do to finish moving from ubuntu to kubuntu (alls I did was sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop)?  Gnome panel is still running, for instance...
[12:53] <icedragon1> I chose kdm as my display manager
[12:54] <h3sp4wn> icedragon1: select kde as the session type
[12:54] <icedragon1> h3sp4wn, I have, and it shows a kubuntu splash on boot, and even a kubuntu login prompt
[12:54] <icedragon1> however, the gnome panel is still being used
[12:57] <h3sp4wn> icedragon1: You need to select session type kde
[12:58] <ironfroggy> is it possible for an individual user to configure some samba share to mount in their home directory?
[12:58] <h3sp4wn> icedragon1: (I have just tested it because my default session is e17
[12:58] <ironfroggy> or, even better, for me to configure that every user have their home share mounted for them?
[01:02] <Tommy2k4> the livecd installer says there was an error partitioning the drive but doesnt say what it was
[01:02] <ironfroggy> have you checked out the partition table yourself to see what state its in?
[01:02] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: did you by any chance choose an XFS filesystem for root?
[01:03] <Tommy2k4> i let it auto partition it for me
[01:03] <Tommy2k4> using largest continuous free space
[01:05] <unix_infidel> Tommy2k4: its better to just manually partition and setup mount points.
[01:05] <Tommy2k4> when i tried to manually partition this pc it wouldnt even work
[01:05] <Tommy2k4> at least 3 big bugs
[01:06] <unix_infidel> Tommy2k4:  many ubuntu users have never had that problem.
[01:06] <Hawkwind> Tommy2k4: Don't use the Live CD, use the alternate CD
[01:06] <Tommy2k4> im sure
[01:06] <Hawkwind> It's a known issue with the Live CD
[01:07] <Tommy2k4> k i guess
[01:08] <angasule> running programs with kdesu doesn't work (no error message in the console, I checked), I tried killing kdesud which usually fixes it, but no luck, what can I do, other than reboot?
[01:10] <SpAwN> how can i make the clock use standard time...instead of 24 hour clock
[01:11] <unix_infidel> SpAwN: man date
[01:11] <unix_infidel> SpAwN: or is this for the kde clock?
[01:11] <SpAwN> kde clock right now
[01:11] <unix_infidel> eg what kicker displays?
[01:11] <the_hammer> there we go trying ubuntu now mandriva sucked
[01:11] <SpAwN> im just using kde atm
[01:11] <unix_infidel> SpAwN: right click on the clock and click on date and time format.
[01:11] <unix_infidel> or just use kcontrol.
[01:12] <mistik1> Hello guys
[01:12] <Hawkwind> mistik1: Greetings
[01:12] <SpAwN> ungamed, do u know what i have to change to make it 12 hour...i dont know the formate
[01:12] <Hawkwind> the_hammer: We saw your nasty comments in #Mandriva where you broke the rules a few times
[01:12] <SpAwN> * unix_infidel
[01:12] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: man date will tell you that
[01:13] <Hawkwind> %I perhaps
[01:13] <mistik1> I just upgraded my brother's machine from kubuntu breezy to dapper and I noticed that the admin tool is gone
[01:13] <the_hammer> ahh well that os sucked and im not ashamed to say so
[01:13] <SpAwN> the_hammer, no mandriva is actualy quite good.
[01:13] <mistik1> Did they have a settings tool for dapper and if so what is the name of it so I can install the new tools
[01:13] <mistik1> hey Hawkwind
[01:13] <Distro^Junkie> Tunepimp (MusicBrainz tagging library) returned the following error: ".mp3 is not a supported filetype.". < ---- anyone getting an error like this in amarok when trying to tag files with musicbrainz ?
[01:13] <Hawkwind> mistik1: You mean like systemsettings ?
[01:13] <unix_infidel> SpAwN: if you wanna go gui(not recommended) you do right click on clock>time& dates>timeformat: to pH:MM:SS:AMPM
[01:13] <mistik1> yes
[01:13] <the_hammer> wouldnt let me updat with out paying them
[01:14] <the_hammer> update even
[01:14] <mistik1> When systemsettings is clicked from the menu it comes up blank
[01:14] <SpAwN> unix_infidel, ahh k thanks........i was kinda confusd on how to change the formate
[01:14] <mistik1> I did a sources.list style upgrade btw
[01:15] <SpAwN> brb gotta log out for it toake affect
[01:15] <Hawkwind> mistik1: Strange.  Have you tried making sure systemsettings is installed ?
[01:15] <mistik1> Hawkwind: I did not even know what the cli name for it was
[01:16] <the_hammer> i dont think anyone would say here that mandriva is better then ubuntu and/or kubuntu lol
[01:16] <the_hammer> if it is then ya all would have it and not whatcha got
[01:16] <Hawkwind> mistik1: systemsettings and the package name is kde-systemsettings
[01:16] <the_hammer> :)
[01:16] <LjL> the_hammer: i would hardly say that any decently-known linux distribution is "better" than another in absolute terms, no.
[01:16] <Hawkwind> the_hammer: I run both actually.  I also happen to run http://SeerOfSouls.com/ which is the largest 3rd party rpm repository for Mandriva.  My site gets almost 2 million hits a month
[01:17] <Hawkwind> the_hammer: Plus I was an op of #Mandrake/#Mandriva for over 3 years
[01:17] <the_hammer> interesting
[01:17] <mistik1> Hawkwind: thanks
[01:17] <Hawkwind> I'm still listed as the alternate contact, and the bot in the channel runs from my server :)
[01:17] <Hawkwind> mistik1: No problems
[01:17] <angasule> help :( kdesu doesn't work, how do I restart/what do I kill it?
[01:18] <the_hammer> i have a whole collection of linux here i got xandros desktop and deluxe versions and ultima 8.1
[01:18] <the_hammer> fedroacore 5
[01:19] <unix_infidel> cause / calling...
[01:19] <the_hammer> ubuntu kubuntu mandriva 2006 suse 10.1
[01:19] <the_hammer> debian
[01:19] <the_hammer> back track knoppix
[01:19] <mistik1> Hawkwind: It says its already at the latest version
[01:20] <Hawkwind> mistik1: Run it from CLI and see what happens
[01:20] <the_hammer> still cant find 1 that im 100 % happy with
[01:20] <the_hammer> i like ubuntu and kubuntu
[01:20] <unix_infidel> heh, try BSD then :)
[01:20] <unix_infidel> LOL
[01:20] <SpAwN> unix_infidel, hehe.....
[01:20] <the_hammer> hard part is finding one that likes my vidcard
[01:21] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Ohhh  ??
[01:21] <SpAwN> the_hammer, buy a nvidia vid card if u are gonna use linux
[01:21] <SpAwN> a cheap ass nvidia card is way better then a expensive ati on linux
[01:21] <test> Hiya room1
[01:21] <the_hammer> lol ya so im finding out
[01:22] <the_hammer> debian doesnt like my ethernet card
[01:22] <the_hammer> brb comoany
[01:22] <the_hammer> company*
[01:22] <mistik1> Hawkwind: we ran it from cli as user and its blank, ran it sudo systemsettings and it comes up now
[01:22] <Hawkwind> abattoir: I didn't know you ran Mandriva/Mandrake.  Must be referring to the one on the Club forums ?
[01:22] <abattoir> Hawkwind: yes, i was still a bit new, but it was about his 'bleeding edge' packages, at a forum
[01:22] <mistik1> I guess I'll just edit the menu option and make it use kdesu
[01:22] <Hawkwind> mistik1: Hmmmm, could be a conf file that is messing up from the upgrade or something
[01:23] <abattoir> Hawkwind: Mandriva is what made me use Linux primarily, but I was hungry for the latest packages...
[01:23] <abattoir> so switched to Kubuntu
[01:24] <abattoir> still have fond memories though :)
[01:24] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Ahh.  That was/is the goal of my SoS site.  I keep that thing heavily populated with the latest and greatest.  Hence why I get so many hits to it each month
[01:25] <Hawkwind> abattoir: There are many here in this channel that know me from Mandriva and that used to or still use my SoS site
[01:25] <abattoir> Hawkwind: i'm not sure if it was around then, thac's packages were only source, so i used them, even if that meant hundreds of crashes :P
[01:25] <Hawkwind> I'm hoping to expand it and start hosting some deb packages.  I did build xchat-2.6.6 which was just released yesterday and put it up there
[01:25] <Tommy2k4> shouldnt something happen when i right click on the pager applet and go open pager
[01:25] <Tommy2k4> launch pager*
[01:26] <the_hammer> sure is fun fartin around with linux anyways
[01:26] <abattoir> Hawkwind: cool :) .
[01:26] <the_hammer> its like ice cream so many different tastes and flavours
[01:27] <test> the_hammer: Still wanting to kick your pc?
[01:27] <the_hammer> lol naaa im ok now
[01:27] <abattoir> the_hammer: what happened to your bot? :P
[01:27] <abattoir> managed to get eggdrop to work?
[01:27] <test> the_hammer: Get your answers did ya?
[01:28] <the_hammer> someone showed me a site lastnight that someone else couldnt get the bot working on ubuntu
[01:28] <test> yay!
[01:28] <Hawkwind> the_hammer: It works here. After you left last night I set one up in about 5 - 7 minutes
[01:29] <the_hammer> i dont even think it was installed right cuz 1 i had i moved from desktop to usr folder
[01:29] <the_hammer> and im thinkin thats why i had probs
[01:30] <the_hammer> i give up for now ill take another whack at it 1 day
[01:31] <the_hammer> not really giving up just takin a break
[01:32] <Tommy2k4> can i get a cpu/ram/other stuff usage graphs in kicker
[01:32] <Tommy2k4> like i could in xfce
[01:33] <Hawkwind> Tommy2k4: gkrellm
[01:33] <Pyro> There is an applet you can add in the taskbar called "System Monitor" I think
[01:33] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: there is a kicker Applet... let me look it up
[01:33] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: system guard applet
[01:34] <Pyro> ^That's it
[01:34] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: or you could try superkaramba(though it doesnt go into the kicker)
[01:34] <Tommy2k4> found it
[01:34] <the_hammer> the installer thing is kinda a differenet in kubuntu eh
[01:34] <abattoir> the_hammer: adept?
[01:35] <iSDAGE> hey, how do I get programs to runon startup in Kubuntu?
[01:35] <Tommy2k4> damn its ugly
[01:35] <the_hammer> the one in ubuntu was catagorued
[01:35] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: try superkaramba
[01:35] <abattoir> !superkaramba
[01:35] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[01:36] <abattoir> i warn you, it *might* munch your CPU mercilessly if you have a slow/old system
[01:36] <Hawkwind> Tommy2k4: If you are referring to gkrellm being ugly, it's very themeable
[01:36] <the_hammer> Sysinfo for 'AMD64': Linux 2.6.15-23-amd64-generic running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlon643200+ at 1005 MHz (2011 bogomips), , RAM: 465/500MB, 96 proc's, 50.35min up
[01:36] <the_hammer> :)
[01:37] <Tommy2k4> no i meant system guard applet
[01:37] <abattoir> Hawkwind: i think he means the kicker applet, it *does* look ugly, ugh :=\
[01:37] <the_hammer> ya the adept is terrible looking
[01:37] <the_hammer> didnt realize that was the name of it till i clicked on it again
[01:37] <the_hammer> lol
[01:38] <Pyro_MX> Mmm... removed the screens in the sysguard applet instead of removing the applet itself..
[01:38] <abattoir> the_hammer: if i may ask, is it the list of packages that is 'intimidating' ?
[01:38] <Pyro_MX> Now I cannot get the monitor back lol
[01:38] <abattoir> the_hammer: it would be useful if you could tell what you dont like exactly :)
[01:38] <the_hammer> kinda i miss the way ubuntu's is
[01:38] <abattoir> the_hammer: synaptic?
[01:38] <the_hammer> ya
[01:38] <the_hammer> i like the style of that better
[01:39] <the_hammer> all nicely in order,etc
[01:39] <Pyro_MX> Synaptic can be installed in Kubuntu
[01:39] <abattoir> the_hammer: you could still use it if you wat
[01:39] <the_hammer> easyer to pick n choose
[01:39] <abattoir> *want
[01:39] <h3sp4wn> interactive aptitude install best
[01:39] <Hawkwind> the_hammer: sudo apt-get install synaptic  and you'll be happy :P
[01:39] <the_hammer> cool ok ty ill try that
[01:39] <h3sp4wn>  /s/install/is
[01:40] <h3sp4wn> With aptitude you can even play minesweeper
[01:40] <h3sp4wn> If the dependancy's are in a total mess
[01:40] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: really? an easter egg?
[01:40] <h3sp4wn> abattoir: Its just in the menu
[01:40] <SaGE> hey, how do you get programs to run on startup in Kubuntu?
[01:40] <ryanakca> why is it that since the recent upgrade, I can't hold backspace key and have it erase a line... I have to hit it numerous times and erase caracter by caracter... same thing with the arrows... I need to hit numerous times... scroll lock light doesn't work either...
[01:40] <mistik1> abattoir; How those the theme progrm look?
[01:40] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: heh, ok, cool
[01:40] <the_hammer> there was a game i think in mandriva i liked but when i installed it lastnight i couldnt find it...has a little arrow and ya have to shoot balls down
[01:41] <abattoir> mistik1: ???
[01:41] <ryanakca> this is only in Xorg, not in tty1/tty2/tty*
[01:41] <abattoir> mistik1: superkaramba?
[01:41] <Pyro_MX> Well, if you let the programs you want to open on startup run when you shutdown, they should get back in your next login.
[01:41] <mistik1> yes
[01:41] <SaGE> yeah, that doesn't work for all of them
[01:41] <Tommy2k4> SaGE, copy .desktop files to ~/.kde/Autoruns
[01:41] <h3sp4wn> abattoir: aptitude -v -v -v -v -v moo (thats the easter egg)
[01:42] <h3sp4wn> abattoir: apt-get moo (is as you know the supercow powers)
[01:42] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: thanks, i'll check it out
[01:42] <abattoir> aah, yes, that i've heard and seen :)
[01:43] <Tommy2k4> sorry SaGE its ~/.kde/Autostart
[01:43] <abattoir> mistik1: there are thousands of themes which show everything from sysinf/weather to your mail, you can also control music players etc...
[01:43] <abattoir> mistik1: checkout http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=38 for themes
[01:43] <abattoir> mistik1: superkaramba is in universe
[01:43] <Pyro_MX> I was wondering... is there an art team entirely dedicated to Kubuntu? Because I just found stuff about the Ubuntu art team.
[01:43] <mistik1> thank you abattoir
[01:43] <abattoir> mistik1: so 'sudo apt-get install superkaramba' if you have it enabled
[01:44] <mistik1> already don thanks
[01:44] <Tommy2k4> yep worked for me
[01:44] <abattoir> Pyro_MX: afaik, only one person :(
[01:44] <Hawkwind> mistik1: You running Kubuntu yourself now, or just doing this for someone ?
[01:44] <the_hammer> wow lots more games in kubuntu eh
[01:44] <Pyro_MX> Oh..
[01:44] <the_hammer> holy cow gettin them all
[01:45] <the_hammer> my fav game is tetris
[01:45] <the_hammer> play that game for ever heh
[01:45] <abattoir> Pyro_MX: but he is already coming up w/ awesome stuff for edgy... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas
[01:45] <the_hammer> ty for tellin me the update thing
[01:45] <Pyro_MX> Okay
[01:46] <Pyro_MX> Um hey abattoir how do you send PMs?
[01:46] <SaGE> Thanks Tommy
[01:46] <abattoir>  /msg nick
[01:46] <Pyro_MX> thx
[01:46] <abattoir> where nick is the nick of the person :P
[01:46] <Pyro_MX> lol I figured it out lol
[01:46] <abattoir> Pyro_MX: you'd like to work on Kubuntu artwork?
[01:46] <abattoir> Pyro_MX: i was just guessing there :P
[01:46] <the_hammer> or right click on nicks and select open query
[01:47] <Hawkwind> Or /query <nick> which will open a new tab with that user, then type your message in that tab :)
[01:47] <Pyro_MX> I cant... I'm not registered and cannot open private messages windows
[01:47] <Tommy2k4> !register
[01:47] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:47] <Pyro_MX> !register
[01:47] <Pyro_MX> zoinks
[01:48] <Pyro_MX> well I'm just here for a little time
[01:48] <Pyro_MX> Yea well abattoir, i wanted to show something to the art team
[01:49] <Tommy2k4> what if u get addicted and start coming here every day
[01:49] <abattoir> Pyro_MX: i think the page i gave you is for incoming stuff, but i'm not sure if everybody can put stuff in(even though someone else has)...
[01:49] <Hawkwind> Tommy2k4: Then he'd just be like the rest of us :)
[01:49] <Tommy2k4> lol
[01:49] <abattoir> Pyro_MX: you can try contacting kwwii, he is the Kubuntu/KDE artwork god :P
[01:50] <Pyro_MX> How can I contact him?
[01:50] <Tommy2k4> do you all have your irc client open up when you login
[01:50] <abattoir> he hangs out @ #kubuntu-devel
[01:50] <Pyro_MX> Hmhm..
[01:50] <Pyro_MX> Well... just doing theme concept
[01:50] <Hawkwind> Tommy2k4: My IRC client rarely ever closes
[01:50] <abattoir> i dont think he is there right now
[01:50] <Hawkwind> Heh
[01:51] <Tommy2k4> same unless reboot
[01:51] <Hawkwind> Surely kwwii's email can be found on launchpad or on his wiki page
[01:51] <Tommy2k4> is slickbar for superkaramba like a replacement for kicker
[01:51] <Pyro_MX> does he hangs out in the ubuntu forums?
[01:51] <Hawkwind> Tommy2k4: Though I have a nick running in screen in irssi from my server that never goes away
[01:52] <abattoir> Pyro_MX: not afaik
[01:52] <abattoir> https://launchpad.net/people/kwwii
[01:52] <Pyro_MX> Thanks, I'll check this..
[01:52] <abattoir> well, he hasnt listed his email...
[01:53] <Pyro_MX> Ah it's okay
[01:53] <Hawkwind> There are 3 emails on that page for him too
[01:53] <abattoir> Hawkwind: there are? i probably cant see because i'm not logged in.
[01:53] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Yeah on the lower left.  I guess I'm logged in is why I see them
[01:54] <abattoir> Hawkwind: indeed, i wasnt logged in :)
[01:54] <Hawkwind> nixternal: !!!!
[01:55] <Hawkwind> Heh
[01:55] <Hawkwind> Didn't I just see you somewhere
[01:56] <nixternal_> hehe ya
[01:57] <the_hammer> ahhh so thats what everyone was talking bout yesterday about kate
[01:57] <the_hammer> lol
[01:58] <cpk2> anyone know what telinit to do to close xserver and go to console?
[01:58] <Hawkwind> cpk2: telinit3
[01:58] <Hawkwind> telinit5 to get back to X
[02:00] <cpk2> telinit 3 doesnt do anything
[02:00] <cpk2> runlevel is 3 2 now
[02:01] <the_hammer> whats this bluechat about
[02:01] <the_hammer> seen it a few times never tried it tho whats it all about
[02:03] <Pyro_MX> Seems kwii isnt logged - is there a place where I can just pitch a design idea?
[02:05] <Hawkwind> Pyro_MX: Email him
[02:05] <Pyro_MX> M'kay
[02:07] <Pyro_MX> Havent got his email - ill to find it out
[02:08] <Tommy2k4> gah cant get superkaramba working
[02:08] <Tommy2k4> and now theres a dumb thing in the top left showing just 1 tray icon
[02:08] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: what exactly is the problem?
[02:08] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: you cant get a theme to work?
[02:08] <Tommy2k4> i tried to load a theme
[02:09] <Tommy2k4> slickbar
[02:09] <Tommy2k4> then superkaramba crashed
[02:09] <Tommy2k4> and its showing 1 tray icon in the top left o_o
[02:09] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: that's more of a problem w/ the theme rather than superkaramba ;)
[02:10] <Tommy2k4> probably
[02:10] <Tommy2k4> how do i get rid of it
[02:10] <the_hammer> kick it
[02:10] <abattoir> Rt. click on the theme->Close theme
[02:10] <Tommy2k4> but theres not a theme as such
[02:10] <Tommy2k4> just 1 tray icon, and when i right click it the context menu for that icon comes up
[02:11] <Tommy2k4> superkaramba shows as no themes open
[02:11] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: i guess the theme messed the panels up...
[02:12] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: i'm not familiar w/ the theme... could have used dcop to do something
[02:13] <Tommy2k4> i reloaded the theme and it works now but that dumb tray icon is still covering it
[02:13] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: tray icon for which app?
[02:13] <Tommy2k4> kopete
[02:13] <Tommy2k4> if i close kopete it will change to the next tray icon
[02:14] <dive-o> for some reason, the arrow keys in firefox have stopped behaving the way they used to - for example, if I click on an empty area of the page, I can scroll up/down with the arrow keys. now, there is always a cursor in the browser window, and the arrow keys move that around, like it's in some weird edit mode. any ideas?
[02:14] <Tommy2k4> f7 (total guess)
[02:14] <Tommy2k4> ages since i used firefox
[02:14] <dive-o> wow
[02:15] <dive-o> Tommy2k4: totally accurate guess
[02:15] <Tommy2k4> :D
[02:15] <dive-o> must've done it when trying to hit ctrl-f7 or something, thanks :)
[02:27] <ojin> hey tommy... if you're still around... if you download any karamba themes, is there a place to store them or do you just make your own?
[02:29] <Tommy2k4> make your own i guess
[02:29] <Tommy2k4> trying to get slickbar to work properly
[02:33] <Tommy2k4> cba with it
[02:36] <joe74> What do I do to update kubuntu 5.10 to kubuntu 6.06
[02:38] <selina> Hola
[02:38] <selina> algun chileno
[02:38] <the_hammer> whats a good mp3 player for kubuntu
[02:38] <test> selina: hiya
[02:38] <the_hammer> all the ones i got wont play
[02:39] <joe74> hola selina yo soy de mexico
[02:39] <test> !restrictedformats
[02:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:39] <joe74> try amarok for mp3 or xmms
[02:39] <whataboutbob> xmms is good
[02:39] <the_hammer> none are working
[02:39] <joe74> I like amarok because it autolovevls volume in all mp3's
[02:39] <whataboutbob> oh cool did not know that
[02:39] <joe74> but xmms is good also, similar to winamp
[02:40] <test> the_hammer: did you put in the codec?
[02:40] <the_hammer> not sure
[02:40] <the_hammer> what codec i need
[02:40] <test> check the link above
[02:40] <ironfroggy> with qtparted, what is the significance of the "active" partition?
[02:40] <joe74> yeah for amarok you will need to download special codecs, it wont play mp3 right out of the box
[02:40] <test> tells you how to get mp3 and everything working
[02:41] <selina> Camx Cam
[02:41] <joe74> any of you know what command to run to upgrade from kubuntu 5.10 to kubuntu 6.06
[02:41] <BKaj> ok, got synaptic e=working as root by using as kdesu synaptic in the run cmd , but it's srill not in the k-menu
[02:42] <test> isnt is dist-upgrade?
[02:42] <joe74> im not sure
[02:42] <ironfroggy> or what the "busy" status of the drive means (there is no hdd activity)
[02:42] <joe74> maybe sudo apt-get install screw up my pc?
[02:42] <test> i think it is dist-upgrade or something like that
[02:43] <lmvaz> joe74: you have to change the repository entries in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:43] <joe74> kk, ill keep checking around
[02:43] <stodge> So does printing to a Samba printer work in Kubuntu Dapper?
[02:43] <test> i dont think apt get install will mess up your computerr
[02:43] <the_hammer> getting 41 codec files now lol
[02:43] <joe74> oh
[02:43] <the_hammer> somethings gotta give
[02:43] <lmvaz> then after apt-get update to update your local base
[02:43] <the_hammer> need  my darn tuneage
[02:43] <lmvaz> and finally apt-get dist upgrade
[02:43] <joe74> no actually this is the most decent linux I have seen
[02:43] <joe74> ok
[02:43] <test> i was right hehehhe
[02:44] <joe74> thanks lmvaz and test
[02:44] <BKaj> joe74: agreed
[02:44] <test> okay if i change just the icon for my cd drive it will NOT keep it from mounting right?
[02:44] <lmvaz> :)
[02:44] <BKaj> how do write synaptic to the k-menu ?
[02:45] <joe74> no, icons are independent from that
[02:45] <BKaj> gotta use run cmd and kdesu to run it as root
[02:45] <Tommy2k4> gah gkrellm is ugly
[02:45] <test> okay cause one time i changed it and it just would not mount no matter what. i think i changed something else then
[02:46] <joe74> BKaj : you mean add synaptic to your k-maenu?
[02:47] <BKaj> yeah joe74
[02:47] <the_hammer> gettin 146 media files 1 of these dam things gotta work lol
[02:48] <joe74> go to system settings>panel>menus>edit Kmenu
[02:48] <whataboutbob> anyone use kubuntu on tablet pc?
[02:49] <whataboutbob> if so HELP :(
[02:49] <unix_infidel> heh, kubuntu isnt ready for the tablet PC :P
[02:49] <gemidjy_> how do I make a certain folder a repository for apt-get ?
[02:49] <joe74> there you add any program and icon, make sure to write the command for that program
[02:49] <Kr4t05> whataboutbob, good luck with that...
[02:49] <whataboutbob> lol it's actually a tablet / laptop
[02:49] <whataboutbob> everything but the pen works great
[02:51] <test> after linux works with them that is.
[02:51] <whataboutbob> lol i agree test
[02:51] <Kr4t05> This is what I dislike...
[02:52] <test> i really have no interest in this miholada thingy everyone keeps talking about
[02:52] <whataboutbob> I figured there would be some package by now for the tablet had a sharp zaurus for 3 years now it works
[02:53] <ironfroggy> is it even possible to resize an ext3 partition?
[02:53] <test> okay heres a question... how can i move my home directory to another partition after i have installed dapper drake?
[02:54] <test> then i have a server question.....
[02:55] <Kr4t05> Just because Linux exhist does not make it the solution to life's problems. Windows is a decent OS in it's own right and has it's place. Just because Linux works doesn't make it the best option.
[02:55] <Kr4t05> Done my rant.
[02:56] <whataboutbob> linux rules windows drooles (my 2 cents)
[02:56] <Kr4t05> whataboutbob, what's wrong with it?
[02:56] <ironfroggy> whataboutbob: havent done it myself, but my boss actually runs kubuntu on a tablet pc, so its not undoable.
[02:56] <Kr4t05> (For the record, I'm not being a fanboy, I'm just supporting my point)
[02:56] <test> linux is THE BEST. Better be careful I might be called a zealot.
[02:56] <whataboutbob> kewl thanks ironfroggy
[02:57] <Kr4t05> test, what makes Linux better than any other OS that exhists? I'm merely asking, and not flaming.
[02:57] <jimmy__> I have a question folks
[02:57] <whataboutbob> at least if I know someone else has done it I will press onward
[02:57] <jimmy__> wireless networking question for my dell 1100 laptop
[02:58] <Kr4t05> !tell jimmy__ about ndiswrapper
[02:58] <jimmy__> using truemobile 1300 card
[02:58] <test> Kr4t05: Well let's see: Cost effectiveness, stability, customizabilty, awesome support and a sense of having choice. But it's the only os ive used too, so i think I am a bit biased
[02:58] <ironfroggy> but you know it will become a flame. saying "windows is great" in a linux irc channel is like yelling fire in a crowded theatre, and then waiting outside with the dead bodies of everyone in the theatre's grandmothers. either way you'll be pummeled equally.
[02:59] <jimmy__> Kr4t05: ndiswrapper?
[02:59] <whataboutbob> good one ironfroggy
[02:59] <Kr4t05> test, with proper configuration, and some common-sense, Windows is an acceptable OS.
[02:59] <whataboutbob> acceptable yes
[02:59] <ironfroggy> test: if you choose windows, you still have a choice.
[03:00] <Kr4t05> ironfroggy, I'm not saying that "Windows is great" I'm merely saying that neither are the answer to world hunger. ;)
[03:00] <test> Kr4t05: As i said my opinion is somewhat biased
[03:00] <jimmy__> can anyone help me with my wireless network?
[03:00] <Kr4t05> !wireless
[03:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[03:01] <ironfroggy> not to repeat myself, but is it possible to resize an ext3 partition? i dont see any resizing utilities for it on the liveCD
[03:01] <jimmy__> thank you
[03:01] <Kr4t05> ironfroggy, qtparted?
[03:01] <Kr4t05> ironfroggy, I think that's it.
[03:02] <test> ironfroggy: from what i hear having no experience with it it isnt really a choice after you get into it.
[03:03] <Kr4t05> I mean, as a Desktop system, Windows works out of the box, without 2 hours of terminal-gazing.
[03:03] <test> Kr4t05: Sounds to easy.
[03:03] <whataboutbob> so does kubuntu
[03:03] <ironfroggy> test: if you choose to use windows, how do you not have a choice? what choice you have doesnt change depending on what choice you make.
[03:03] <Kr4t05> Don't get me wrong, I love being able to make my windows wobble with XGL/Compiz
[03:03] <ironfroggy> Kr4t05: it wont let me resize the ext3 partition, even tho it says it can be resized to the left so many blocks.
[03:04] <ironfroggy> Kr4t05: so get Vista :-)
[03:04] <test> Ironfroggy: Proprietary stuff was never my thing I guess.
[03:04] <Kr4t05> whataboutbob, I spend two hours making TwinView work, installing my "restricted" codecs, and updating my apt sources.  Hell yeah. As a gaming system? Not anytime soon.
[03:06] <Kr4t05> If we see a trend in developers making more games for Linux, I would be more optimistic.
[03:06] <Kr4t05> But, at the moment, I only have two commercial games that run natively on Linux.
[03:06] <test> ironfroggy: Some of them why?
[03:07] <Kr4t05> ironfroggy, as for getting Vista, not anytime soon.
[03:07] <ironfroggy> test: because 99% of linux users dont. so whats the point? not that i dont love the option, but people so often list reasons to use linux which arent real reasons, becuase they never excersize them.
[03:07] <ironfroggy> Kr4t05: well, not until its out. or you download that beta.
[03:07] <Kr4t05> ironfroggy, it's still in beta, meaning I'd spend about 2 days patching holes.
[03:08] <Kr4t05> And, if you use that argument against me, I'll have one for you.
[03:08] <abattoir> ironfroggy: just because you like 'free' software does not mean you should read the source code, or even understand it...
[03:09] <ironfroggy> abattoir: so tell me, then, what is the point?
[03:09] <test> ironfroggy: A point well taken, but as i said having almost zero exp with the othe one and only going on what i have heard/read i form an opinion. Choice is a good thing however no arguing that. I aslo think that an informed choice is better than some other types.
[03:09] <abattoir> its about the flexibility... some people are idealistic too
[03:09] <ironfroggy> im just playing devil's advocate, i understand the virtues of 'free' software, i just think that many of them are less valuable less often then most people will admit.
[03:10] <ironfroggy> abattoir: whats more flexable if you arent looking at any code?
[03:10] <abattoir> ironfroggy: for me, open source software are continuously refined, being the best that they can be...
[03:10] <ironfroggy> sounds like you arent comparing the freedom of the software, but the software itself.
[03:10] <ironfroggy> anyway, im off to find out how to resize this ext3 partition.
[03:11] <abattoir> ironfroggy: well, come back when you are done, we'll have a nice discussion on #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[03:11] <abattoir> ironfroggy: you want to expand it or shrink it?
[03:11] <test> is the other guy really that much better?
[03:12] <BKaj> well I managed to put synaptic in the k-menu but it still won
[03:12] <BKaj> won't launch
[03:14] <james_> when i click on some video streams on this laptop, like videos on Yahoo, for example, the box where there video should play just says "no picture". i used to be able to play these videos, but now i can't for some reason. i do have mplayer and plugins installed. any suggestions?
[03:14] <distanceisdeath> Kubuntu cannot mount the root file system on start up.  any ideas?
[03:14] <fiyawerx> hey guys, anyone ever get "xine was unable to initialize any audio devices"
[03:14] <test> james_: I have that problem too. what browser?
[03:14] <fiyawerx> it was working fine before until i plugged in my usb headset
[03:15] <james_> test: firefox
[03:15] <fiyawerx> and now amarok keeps giving that error (even after removal/reboot
[03:15] <test> james_: I had that problem in firefox but not in konquerer. interseting.
[03:15] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  Is there a way to book-style printing with Kprint?
[03:16] <james_> test: i think this started after i installed the updates yesterday
[03:16] <james_> test
[03:16] <test> james_: I have had too many problems with the updates too.
[03:16] <james_> test: i have never tried to play videos in konqueror, never figured they would work.. i'll try that
[03:17] <test> james_: Work fine in konquerer for me.
[03:17] <distanceisdeath> why can't ubuntu/kubuntu start up for me?  it has een off for a week, and now it wont start up
[03:18] <test> james_: if it dosn't work in konqueror with mplayer try with xine and see if it does any better....
[03:19] <james_> test: yeah. they do not work in konqueror at all
[03:20] <test> james_: that was my advice.
[03:20] <test> james_: like i said it works for me.
[03:21] <james_> test: how would i get it to switch to xine? could i switch to xine in firefox as well? i hate mplayer
[03:21] <test> james_: search for plugin in synaptic
[03:21] <james_> k
[03:22] <test> james_: I'm pretty sure there is a xine plugin for firefox
[03:22] <james_> streaming content in linux is really improving... but still sucks badly
[03:23] <test> james_: after codecs and plugins it normally works okay.
[03:23] <test> james_: at least in my experience.
[03:23] <james_> test: it only works ok on some things... i have all the codecs, plugins, etc... and many streams do not work
[03:24] <Tommy2k4> ack dead moth splattered across my monitor
[03:24] <test> james_: I stream milohula files, real, aol music and etc....
[03:24] <distanceisdeath> have fun tommy
[03:25] <test> Tommy2k4: ewwwww
[03:25] <billykan> ...
[03:25] <james_> test: i get rhapsody and yahoo (usually) to work... but a lot of other things dont....
[03:26] <billykan>  ???
[03:26] <test> james_: however anything that needs activex or drm will not work at all i dont think.
[03:26] <james_> test: correct, and i don't care about that
[03:26] <test> in2tv being a great example.
[03:27] <abattoir> billykan: unfortunately there is not korean (k)ubuntu channel that i can point you to.... so please speak english
[03:27] <the_hammer> lol billy ya writting foren words
[03:27] <test> I think korean
[03:27] <james_> test: can you play the video on democracy now's website, out of curiosity?
[03:27] <test> james_:  give me the website and ill try it
[03:27] <the_hammer> well im in good shape got my tunes workin
[03:27] <nrdb> Hi I have just installed kubuntu on a new partition, I had to use the kernel argument "acpi=on" to get it to boot, I have an problem, every few seconds the mouse pointer freezes for a fraction of a second :(, does anyone know why?
[03:28] <test> the_hammer: YAY!
[03:28] <nrdb> oops :( that "acpi=no"
[03:28] <james_> test: http://democracynow.org/
[03:28] <the_hammer> cant have eggdrops on kubuntu eh
[03:28] <test> james_: just a sec
[03:28] <the_hammer> haha tried and cant be found
[03:29] <abattoir> ugh, i was wrong, there is a korean ubuntu channel :(
[03:29] <abattoir> !ko
[03:29] <ubotu> For Korean help, /join #ubuntu-ko
[03:30] <abattoir> might be worth knowing which language *doesnt* have a support channel
[03:30] <test> james_: where on the page is the video in question?
[03:30] <james_> test: xine is playing yahoo video for me, although the color is really screwed up
[03:31] <test> james_: try adjusting the settings for video...
[03:31] <the_hammer> hey test is it possible to run an egg on kubuntu?
[03:31] <james_> test: just click at the top of the [age
[03:31] <james_> page*
[03:31] <test> abattoir: inuit isn't supported in a channel I don't think.
[03:32] <james_> under the "war and peace report"
[03:32] <abattoir> test: yes, so that's one... ;)
[03:32] <abattoir> test: well, you could say 'amarok amarok' to them :P
[03:33] <abattoir> ok, i'm thinking of corny stuff... sorry
[03:33] <test> abattoir: hehehe
[03:34] <abattoir> test: ok, this is more lame, and i know it(they'd call me the boy who cried 'wolf wolf') ;)
[03:34] <the_hammer> test?
[03:34] <b0nn> hi all, I goofed my adept_notifier up yesterday and nfi how to fix it, it *used* to check for updates just after boot time, and left an icon on my panel, but now its gone, where do I start?
[03:34] <test> james_: it needs real player to play at least video
[03:34] <test> abattoir: hehehe
[03:35] <james_> test: i have democracy now working for the first time ever.... but again, color messed up
[03:35] <the_hammer> is it possible to have an eggdrop on kubuntu?
[03:35] <test> james_: There's a little progress
[03:36] <the_hammer> thinking ill take another whack at it in a bit
[03:36] <the_hammer> tell me what to grab and ill grab it
[03:36] <test> james_: Can you adjust the color and brightness settings and fix the problem?
[03:36] <the_hammer> lol
[03:36] <james_> test: not so far.... i am looking for a way to adjust all of that
[03:37] <test> james_: I know there is a gnome interface to xine so i am assuming there is a kde one where you would be able to do that
[03:38] <james_> test: i'll try to check for that
[03:38] <the_hammer> ill try my luck later on gotta jet for a bit here
[03:38] <james_> thanks for the help
[03:38] <the_hammer> bbs
[03:38] <terror> hey
[03:38] <test> james_: no troubles
[03:38] <test> terror: hiya
[03:39] <nrdb> I am having trouble with the mouse pointer :( it is jerky.  Every few seconds in halts for a fraction of a second :( can anyone help?
[03:53] <CVirus> whats the difference between the alternate CD and the desktop CD ?
[03:53] <CVirus> The Desktop CD runs a live desktop directly from the CD and can install to your hard disk. The Alternate CD includes a text based installer for low memory, LVM or RAID installs.
[03:53] <CVirus> got it
[03:53] <CVirus> thanks
[03:53] <CheeseBurgerMan>  Alternate CD has text based installer, Desktop CD is a liveCD with the Ubiquity installer.
[03:53] <Hawkwind> desktop is the Live CD, alternate is the full installer
[03:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh, good job. :)
[03:53] <CVirus> hehe
[03:56] <cri6> firs time on irc!
[03:56] <Hawkwind> Don't ever admit that in public :P
[03:56] <cri6> I know, nevermind. thanks for the edvise
[03:57] <cri6> how can I change the boot sequence in kubuntu 6.06, please?
[03:58] <Tommy2k4> kubuntu crashed again
[03:58] <Hawkwind> cri6: What do you mean by the boot sequence ?  As in harddrive or CD-Rom ?
[03:58] <cri6> i mean OS sequenca...
[03:59] <Tommy2k4> grub.list or something
[03:59] <Hawkwind> Edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[03:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> /etc/grub/menu.lst
[03:59] <Desh> Everytime I try to use the fglrx drivers my Xorg.0.log reports: [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENOSPC", apparetnly an Mtrr error, ad nothing I do fixes this, I want to recompile my kernel w/o mtrr, how would I do this?
[03:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> WHoops.../boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hawkwind got it right.
[03:59] <cri6> thanx you all!
[04:00] <cri6> I was used to suse's gui forthis
[04:00] <Tommy2k4> can anyone help me fix the problem i have on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204080
[04:00] <Hawkwind> Yummmmmm!  Thanks CheeseBurgerMan :P
[04:00] <Tommy2k4> i switched to 16bit and it still happens but much rarer
[04:01] <unix_infidel> that reminds me....
[04:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> You need to eat?
[04:02] <unix_infidel> :P
[04:02] <Tommy2k4> i did 21km on the steppy machine thingy today :)
[04:02] <ironfroggy> im so impressed. kubuntu actually handles my laptop hardware better than windows xp did.
[04:02] <Hawkwind> Tommy2k4: You need to verify the refresh rates for your monitor.  It's obvious they are wrong which is what is causing the problem
[04:02] <SpAwN> hello all im using ndiswrapper for my wireless....today it started droping the connection.....no matter what i do it wont reconnect(router still lets other wireless connection)...anyone have any kinda of ideas?
[04:03] <Hawkwind> Tommy2k4: You can find that info from the book that came with the monitor or on google by pulling up the make and model number
[04:05] <Tommy2k4> Hawkwind, definately correct
[04:05] <Tommy2k4> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/819et/en/spec/spec.htm#Resolution
[04:05] <Tommy2k4> Horizontal scan range	30 - 70 kHz (automatic) | Vertical scan range	50 - 160 Hz (automatic)
[04:06] <fiyawerx> anyone know if there's a way to get two sound devices working at once?
[04:07] <Hawkwind> fiyawerx: There is, but it's pretty complicated.  Why not by a sound card for $20 that supports multiple channels and allows you to hear more than one sound at a time
[04:08] <fiyawerx> Hawkwind: yeah, might just do that, well, has to be external tho
[04:09] <fiyawerx> Hawkwind: just was wondering if i could use my regular audio card for main output and logitech usb headset for cueing
[04:09] <fiyawerx> without spending anything :)
[04:09] <Tommy2k4> i thought that might be what you needed
[04:09] <nrdb> In a new install of kubuntu 6.06 I have a jerky mouse pointer :(  help please.
[04:10] <Tommy2k4> but a usb headset isnt really an audio device is it?
[04:10] <fiyawerx> well
[04:10] <fiyawerx> when i reboot
[04:10] <fiyawerx> kde sends sounds to my pc speakers
[04:10] <fiyawerx> and amarok plays to my usb headset
[04:10] <fiyawerx> so it's using them separately somehow
[04:10] <Tommy2k4> hm
[04:10] <fiyawerx> and it's listed in kmix as a separate device
[04:11] <fiyawerx> but some things work wierd or if i change anything it all comes crashing down lol
[04:11] <Tommy2k4> you using some dj software or just amarok?
[04:11] <fiyawerx> got mixxx to try out for now
[04:11] <fiyawerx> but anything lists my devices weird
[04:11] <fiyawerx> like, i know system makes my headset /dev/dsp1
[04:12] <fiyawerx> but amarok says its using dev/dsp and it still comes through the headset
[04:12] <fiyawerx> if i unplug my headset, dsp1 disappears
[04:12] <fiyawerx> like its all strange
[04:12] <fiyawerx> and i get alsa errors and whatnot, altho im not sure i ever used alsa on this
[04:12] <fiyawerx> i have to use oss, and i don't really know the difference :)
[04:12] <OOD> alsa is much more advanced
[04:13] <OOD> and supports software mixing and other usefull things
[04:13] <jimmy__> will the dell 3418 driver work with the 1300 (dell broadcom wireless card)
[04:13] <Tommy2k4> installing mixxx now :)
[04:13] <nrdb> In a new install of kubuntu 6.06 I have a jerky mouse pointer :(  help please.
[04:13] <Tommy2k4> even after reboot / unplug&replug mouse?
[04:14] <jimmy__> this noobie needs help with wireless networking
[04:14] <test> jimmy__: do you have a dell 1300 notebook or card?
[04:14] <Hawkwind> nrdb: Trying being a bit more detailed.  Maybe post your xorg.conf to pastebin.ca or tell us what you've done or haven't done
[04:14] <posthuman> I dont know alot of difference between OSS and ALSA..but OSS sounded really bad on my card when I tried desktopBSD
[04:14] <fiyawerx> OOD: i think ican use alsa until i plug my headset in
[04:14] <jimmy__> test: yes
[04:14] <fiyawerx> then it breaks
[04:14] <test> jimmy__: notebook or card?
[04:15] <jimmy__> test lol sorry, 1100 notebook, 1300 card
[04:15] <test> jimmy__: hmmm does it use broadcom 43xx chip?
[04:15] <nrdb> Hawkwind: when working off the livecd the mouse works just fine, so I copied the xorg.conf to the HDD and it is still jerky.  apart from that I don't know what to do.
[04:16] <Hawkwind> jimmy__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174  <~~Try reading this for broadcomm chipsets
[04:16] <Hawkwind> nrdb: Have you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg by chance ?
[04:17] <Hawkwind> nrdb: Usually going with the defaults usually works fine
[04:17] <Tommy2k4> mixxx wont even work for me :(
[04:17] <nrdb> Hawkwind: no, I will now
[04:17] <jimmy__> test : tying to check and see here
[04:17] <test> jimmy__: okay
[04:17] <unix_infidel> Tommy2k4: mixxx is terrible.
[04:17] <Tommy2k4> with OSS it says audio device could not be opened, with Jack it says sound api could not be initialized :(
[04:18] <unix_infidel> most any linux audio development stuff is nonsense.  Use OS X or windows if you're serious about producing and mixing audio.
[04:18] <Tommy2k4> you know of a good alternative?
[04:18] <jimmy__> test: I did lspci   <------   it would be listed here right?
[04:18] <fiyawerx> ah, i also have jack and a bunch of stuf
[04:18] <fiyawerx> unix_infidel: not necessarily true
[04:18] <test> jimmy__: it should be
[04:18] <Tommy2k4> im not serious i just wanna have a mess about with it
[04:18] <fiyawerx> its getting there
[04:18] <fiyawerx> for mixing anyway
[04:18] <unix_infidel> Tommy2k4: i'm not sure if mixxx uses oss but maybe try the alsaoss wrapper.
[04:19] <jimmy__> test: Linux user for almost 2 weeks (bare with me)
[04:19] <jimmy__> test:   :o)
[04:19] <test> jimmy__: okay its all good
[04:19] <unix_infidel> fiyawerx: for the most part unless your doing audio analysis linux isnt the best, its a good alternative, but i'm just saying i'm nota fan.
[04:19] <Tommy2k4> how would i do that
[04:19] <fiyawerx> i love amarok for management tho, hehe
[04:19] <unix_infidel> !alsa-oss
[04:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about alsa-oss - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:19] <fiyawerx> wanted to get something worth mixing setup also
[04:19] <posthuman> I just love amarok
[04:19] <posthuman> tehehe
[04:19] <Tommy2k4> i found its aoss
[04:20] <fiyawerx> i mean just to play with, i really want to get serato scratch live
[04:20] <posthuman> !alsaoss
[04:20] <jimmy__> test:  BCM4306
[04:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about alsaoss - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:20] <posthuman> ah no such lucl
[04:20] <jimmy__> test:  whaahoo
[04:20] <unix_infidel> Tommy2k4: apt-get the package and then run aoss mixxx
[04:20] <test> jimmy__:  hehe cool.
[04:20] <OOD> unix_infidel: only problem with linux is that all the good audio appds are either for Mac or Windows
[04:20] <Tommy2k4> oki
[04:20] <fiyawerx> but yeah that even runs best under a clean windows install
[04:20] <jimmy__> test:   now what ?
[04:20] <test> jimmy__: the broadcom 43xx are easy to install for the most part
[04:21] <unix_infidel> OOD: like i said, if you're serious about audio development, mixing, production
[04:21] <unix_infidel> use mac or win32
[04:21] <test> jimmy__: do you have your driver disk?
[04:21] <test> jimmy__: and have ndiswrapper-utils installed?
[04:22] <Tommy2k4> exactly the same errors using aoss
[04:22] <jimmy__> test: I have the disk on hand
[04:23] <jimmy__> test: and I have no idea about ndiswrapper thing
[04:23] <test> jimmy__: did you install ndiswrapper-utils. it's in synaptic
[04:24] <jimmy__> test: I just installed dapper thats it.
[04:25] <jimmy__> test:  fresh install
[04:25] <nrdb> I have a jerky mouse pointer, I have tried coping the xorg.conf file from the livecd, and dpkg-reconfigure, but it still isn't working properly.
[04:25] <test> jimmy__: do you have network on that machine?
[04:25] <test> jimmy__: i mean wired
[04:25] <jimmy__> test:  oh, no
[04:26] <jimmy__> test:  cable modem is the only wire
[04:26] <test> jimmy__: its okay put in your install disk and open synaptic when it asks
[04:26] <jimmy__> test:  wow, I didnt think it would work in linux
[04:26] <test> jimmy__: let e ask again: can you access the internet from the linux machine?
[04:27] <jimmy__> test: yes, I'm on the laptop now
[04:27] <test> open synaptic and search for ndiswrapper-utils
[04:28] <jimmy__> ok
[04:28] <test> jimmy__: then install it.
[04:29] <jimmy__> ok
[04:29] <test> after that copy the drivers on your driver disk to your linux machine
[04:30] <test> jimmy__: the network drivers
[04:31] <lmosher> I installed a .deb using dpkg and I want to remove it.. What do I need to do?
[04:31] <jimmy__> test: would you know off hand what extention the drivers are?
[04:32] <test> jimmy__: there are 2 of them an .inf and a .sys
[04:32] <jimmy__> .exe cant be used in linux right?
[04:32] <nrdb> lmosher: try "gpkg --remove <name>"
[04:32] <jimmy__> oh  ok
[04:32] <lmosher> nrdb: ok I thought it was something like that.. is it the deb name?
[04:33] <lmosher> or the package itself?
[04:33] <OOD> sudo apt-get remove packagename
[04:33] <test> jimmy__: they may start with a bcm or something like that
[04:33] <nrdb> lmosher: I think you want the package name
[04:33] <OOD> that'll remove the package
[04:34] <test> hiya admin :)
[04:34] <nrdb> I have a jerky mouse pointer, I have tried coping the xorg.conf file from the livecd, and dpkg-reconfigure, but it still isn't working properly.
[04:34] <unix_infidel> nrdb: man xset
[04:34] <unix_infidel> then search for m
[04:34] <unix_infidel> change the ratio
[04:35] <jimmy__> test:  there are two .sys files with bcm ..... get both?
[04:36] <test> jimmy__: are there two inf files or only one?
[04:36] <test> jimmy__: likely the inf and sys will have the same name
[04:36] <jimmy__> 1
[04:36] <jimmy__> ok
[04:37] <jimmy__> yes
[04:37] <jimmy__> got em
[04:37] <test> jimmy__: what is the name of the inf out of curiousity?
[04:37] <jimmy__> test: nfbcmwl5.i
[04:38] <nrdb> unix_infidel: isn't this what is controled by the settings in "K -> System settings -> Mouse -> Advanced"
[04:38] <jimmy__> test:  oops  .inf
[04:38] <unix_infidel> nrdb: fire up console and open up two tabs.
[04:38] <unix_infidel> in one tab type `man xset`
[04:38] <unix_infidel> and in the other type in xset m [stop right there and dont press enter]
[04:38] <james_> test: since i installed the xine plugin for firefox, the color on ANY video i play, whether streaming or DVD, etc, is all really messed uo, do you have any suggestions? i see no way to adjust any of this
[04:38] <unix_infidel> THEN fire up $BROWSER and research the proper ratio.
[04:39] <test> james_: not off hand. ill check though
[04:39] <test> jimmy__: same as mine
[04:39] <unix_infidel> (note, this is not a permanent setting, you need to add this to a script or adapt it to xorg.conf.
[04:39] <test> jimmy__: should be simple to do
[04:39] <unix_infidel> )
[04:39] <test> jimmy__: open a terminal and go to the place here the drivers are
[04:40] <jimmy__> test: I have two windows open in konsole (good enough)?
[04:40] <nrdb> unix_infidel: I don't think these setting will affect my problem, as the mouse does move OK, but every few seconds it halts for about 1/4 of a second the jumps and work again for a few seconds.
[04:41] <unix_infidel> nrdb: is this an optical mouse or a traditional ball mouse?
[04:41] <test> jimmy__: you only need one konsole.
[04:41] <vinboy> Xorg is using 228mb of memory now.... it keep increasing from like 60mb yesterday
[04:41] <vinboy> is there a memory leak somewhere?
[04:41] <test> jimmy__: let me get my other laptop real quick and we can begin okay?
[04:42] <jimmy__> test: oh
[04:42] <nrdb> unix_infidel: it is an optical track ball, it work fine on the LiveCD and on my other install of kubuntu but not on this fresh install.
[04:42] <jimmy__> test: ok
[04:42] <unix_infidel> nrdb: that usually means it a X issue in which the settings have somehow changed.
[04:43] <unix_infidel> nrdb: like i said find the specific ratio that you desire for xset m
[04:43] <test> jimmy__: do you have the konsole open where the drivers are?
[04:43] <nrdb> unix_infidel: I tried coping the xorg.conf off the LiveCD and reconfiguring the xserver
[04:43] <test> james_: still checking for you....
[04:44] <unix_infidel> nrdb: like i said, it usually wont save mouse ratio settings.
[04:44] <james_> test: thanks
[04:44] <jimmy__> test: I copied the files to the hard drive and closed the window
[04:44] <unix_infidel> i promise, if you do as i say, your hand will stop throbbing after a few minutes.
[04:44] <test> jimmy__: open a konsole and cd to where the drivers were copied
[04:45] <jimmy__> test:  ok done ( they are on the desktop)
[04:46] <test> jimmy__: now type the following:
[04:47] <test> jimmy__: sudo ndiswrapper -i (inffilename).inf
[04:47] <test> james_: www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217063 try there for xine picture correcting.
[04:48] <james_> test: thank you very much, i will read that
[04:48] <test> jimmy__: so probably it will look like sudo ndiswrapper -i bcnwl5.inf
[04:48] <test> james_: you are welcome
[04:49] <test> jimmy__: the n should be an m
[04:50] <jimmy__> test: I get command not found
[04:50] <test> jimmy__: did you install ndiswraper-utils?
[04:50] <nrdb> unix_infidel: I have tried several setting, "xset m 4 8" works generally, but it still jerks every 3 seconds or so.
[04:50] <jimmy__> test: uhhhh
[04:50] <jimmy__> test: guess not
[04:51] <test> jimmy__: from synaptic? you can search them. install them and it should work.
[04:51] <jimmy__> test: can I go to add/remove programs?
[04:51] <test> jimmy__: i ave never tried it through add remove
[04:51] <test> jimmy__: you could also use adept
[04:51] <jimmy__> test:  ok
[04:52] <jimmy__> ina1
[04:52] <test> jimmy__: make sure you enable the extra repositories too
[04:53] <test> jimmy__: after it is installed let me know.......
[04:53] <jimmy__> test: under 'developement'?
[04:53] <lmosher> I'm trying to compile something in ubuntu (a very fresh install). I get the following error: configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables. i just installed build-essentials and that didn't help.
[04:54] <test> does it say ndiswrapper-utils jimmy__?
[04:54] <test> jimmy__: does it say ndiswrapper-utils?
[04:55] <jimmy__> test: I get catagories
[04:55] <test> jimmy__: search for it
[04:55] <jimmy__> games, utilities, ...................   ok
[04:55] <test> It's there somewhere
[04:55] <test> if not we can do it probably through apt-get
[04:59] <maryham> Lynoure: how are you?
[04:59] <jimmy__> test: cant find it dude
[04:59] <maryham> I do not know if you remenber me but you tried to help me 2 days ago about my cdrom...
[04:59] <test> jimmy__: okay try this: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[05:00] <michael> Hey guys, having some issues with my X server. I just had a really strange hard crash, and when i managed to get back to kdm, my res is set to 640x480, which is very strange, because the only setting available in my xorg.conf is the native 1440x900 that my monitor runs at. Starting X manually and with different servers doesn't seem to help, either.
[05:01] <michael> And, manually specifying the config file doesn't do me any good.
[05:01] <test> jimmy__: you would type that in a konsole
[05:01] <maryham> I just want let you know I find the solution: I edit my Fstab file with pico and change the cdrom mount line!
[05:02] <jimmy__> test:  cool I think that did it
[05:02] <maryham> Thx again for the time you spent with me...
[05:02] <test> jimmy__: did it install?
[05:02] <jimmy__> test:  I think it did
[05:03] <test> jimmy__: okay open a konsole where the drivers are and type sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[05:03] <test> jimmy__: or hatever your inf file name is,
[05:05] <jimmy__> test: couldn't copy bcmwl5.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135.
[05:06] <test> is your konsole open and are you in the desktop directory?
[05:08] <jimmy__> test: files are on my desktop
[05:09] <jimmy__> test: knosole is open
[05:09] <test> open the konsole and type "cd Desktop"
[05:09] <jimmy__> ok
[05:09] <test> it should say /home/you/Desktop
[05:09] <test> jimmy__: are you there?
[05:10] <jimmy__> test:  ok done
[05:10] <jimmy__> yes
[05:10] <jimmy__> type command again?
[05:10] <test> jimmy now type sudo ndiswrapper -i nameoffile.inf
[05:11] <test> jimmy__: nameoffile is your driver file
[05:12] <jimmy__> test: lol..........  its says its already installed
[05:13] <test> jimmy__: do ndiswrapper -l
[05:13] <test> jimmy__: and tell me what it says
[05:14] <jimmy__> installed ndis drivers
[05:15] <test> jimmy does it tell you driver present?
[05:15] <jimmy__> bcmwl5 invalid driver
[05:15] <test> type sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5
[05:16] <jimmy__> test: sorry I cant type on these small laptops
[05:16] <jimmy__> ok
[05:16] <test> jimmy__: its okay. my english is kind of horrible sometimes
[05:17] <PokerFacePenguin> anybody got a fix for the disappearing icons after an upgrade to dapper?
[05:17] <jimmy__> ok
[05:17] <test> jimmy__: still in the desktop directory?
[05:18] <jimmy__> yes
[05:18] <PokerFacePenguin> my desktop icons are just acting flaky..still there
[05:18] <PokerFacePenguin> a reboot brings em back
[05:18] <test> sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[05:19] <test> jimmy__: sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[05:20] <jimmy__> test: wow
[05:20] <jimmy__> that did something
[05:20] <test> jimmy__: type ndiswrapper -l
[05:21] <test> jimmy__: tell me what it says
[05:22] <jimmy__> installing bcmwl5
[05:22] <jimmy__> forcing param   ibssgmode
[05:22] <jimmy__> 6 times
[05:23] <test> jimmy__: okay when you get the prompt type ndiswrapper -l
[05:23] <jimmy__> installed ndis drivers
[05:23] <jimmy__> ok
[05:23] <KaiHanari> whats a good command line app to capture an image from a video device once every "x" seconds and save it to a file, same filename every time
[05:23] <KaiHanari> ?
[05:24] <jimmy__> drivers installed
[05:24] <jimmy__> driver present, hardware present
[05:24] <test> jimmy__: okay now its a breeze
[05:24] <test> jimmy__: type sudo ndiswrapper -m
[05:25] <jimmy__> done
[05:26] <test> jimmy__: now type sudo depmod -a
[05:26] <jimmy__> test: looks good
[05:27] <test> jimmy__: did you put in sudo depmod -a?
[05:27] <jimmy__> test:  installed drivers
[05:27] <jimmy__> yes
[05:27] <test> jimmy__: now type sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:28] <jimmy__> test: done
[05:28] <test> jimmy__: just a sec
[05:29] <jimmy__> test:  ok
[05:29] <test> jimmy__: type sudo kate /etc/modules
[05:30] <test> jimmy__: put ndiswrapper on the bottoom of the list, save aand exit
[05:30] <cesar> hi
[05:31] <jimmy__> there is no 'list save and exit'
[05:32] <test> jimmy__: what happened when you typed sudo kate /etc/modules?
[05:32] <jimmy__> kate oped up
[05:32] <test> jimmy__: what did you see in it?
[05:33] <test> jimmy__: for example my file has ps2 mouse and another line in that file.
[05:34] <jimmy__> test: can I paste you the info?
[05:34] <test> jimmy__: you can paste it on pastebin.ca and send me the link to it
[05:34] <jimmy__> yes i have "psmouse" right under lp
[05:35] <test> jimmy__: at the bottom of that list put ndiswrapper
[05:35] <jimmy__> ok
[05:35] <test> jimmy__: underneath the last item
[05:36] <test> jimmy__: after that save the file
[05:36] <andrew_> How do you install nvidia drivers on kinux?I try but it wanted my to rewrite something.
[05:36] <jimmy__> http://pastebin.ca/index.php
[05:36] <KaiHanari> whats a good command line app to capture an image from a video device once every "x" seconds and save it to a file, same filename every time?
[05:37] <andrew_> Opps i said kinux LOL
[05:37] <test> jimmy__: did you put ndiswrapper in there and save the file?
[05:37] <jimmy__> ok yeah I did after I sent you the link
[05:37] <andrew_> no how do you do that?
[05:37] <jimmy__> space needed or no?
[05:38] <test> jimmy__: no space just right after the last item
[05:38] <jimmy__> (i.e. extera line?)
[05:38] <test> jimmy__: on a line by itself
[05:38] <jimmy__> ok done
[05:38] <test> jimmy__: save the file
[05:38] <jimmy__> done
[05:38] <test> jimmy__: close kate
[05:39] <test> then type sudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[05:39] <jimmy__> konsole going crazy
[05:39] <test> jimmy__: what happened?
[05:40] <test> jimmy__: you can open a new konsole if need be
[05:40] <jimmy__> xlib no protocol
[05:40] <test> jimmy__: are you back at the prompt?
[05:40] <jimmy__> yes
[05:40] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Hi
[05:41] <Hobbsee> hi DaSkreech
[05:41] <test> jimmy__: type sudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[05:42] <test> jimmy__my terminal tells me strange things when i start kate from the command line too
[05:42] <jimmy__> oh ok
[05:42] <test> jimmy__: once kate opens let me know
[05:42] <jimmy__> its open
[05:43] <test> jimmy__: scroll to the bottom of the file
[05:43] <jimmy__> done
[05:44] <test> jimmy__: i assume you are using wep?
[05:44] <jimmy__> no encryption
[05:44] <jimmy__> I'm wide open baby
[05:44] <test> jimmy__: put on a line by itself "blacklist bcm43xx"
[05:45] <test> jimmy__: at the bottom of the file.
[05:45] <test> jimmy__: after that save the file.
[05:46] <test> jimmy__: let me know when it is done
[05:46] <jimmy__> done
[05:46] <jimmy__> close?
[05:46] <test> now reboot the computer and your wireless should come up
[05:47] <jimmy__> ok
[05:47] <jimmy__> dude if this works I owe you
[05:47] <test> jimmy__: i hope it does
[05:47] <jimmy__> I have connections
[05:47] <test> jimmy__: thats what i did for mine and it worked
[05:47] <DaSkreech> Can you get me a OC3?
[05:47] <test> hiya DaSkreech
[05:48] <jimmy__> ok, see you after reboot
[05:48] <test> jimmy__: okay good luck
[05:48] <jimmy__> bbl
[05:48] <jimmy__> thanx
[05:50] <DaSkreech> Dang it what did I miss?
[05:52] <intelikey> would someone please explain to me one more time, 'why there is no ext2/3 fs support in the default kernel/s for *ubuntu' ???
[05:52] <test> jimmy__: whats the good word?
[05:54] <jimmy__> it works
[05:54] <jimmy__> test: your the bomb
[05:54] <intelikey> and also what is all the support that is there???  the kernel image is 1.4m  with no ext#fs support ???
[05:54] <jimmy__> test: I'm wireless baby
[05:54] <test> jimmy__: glad to hear it
[05:54] <DaSkreech> crimsun: Bleh :-P
[05:54] <jimmy__> test: thanx so much
[05:54] <test> jimmy__: like i said not to difficult and you are very very welcome
[05:55] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Huh?
[05:55] <jimmy__> I switched from Windows, so I have to start all over
[05:55] <lmosher> I'm new to apt-get. How do I deal with this: libfreetype6-dev: Depends: libfreetype6 (= 2.1.10-1ubuntu2) but 2.1.10-1ubuntu2.1 is to be installed
[05:56] <jimmy__> Got to go now
[05:56] <test> jimmy__: have a good night
[05:56] <jimmy__> take care
[05:56] <Kr4t05> lmosher, sudo apt-get install -f (?)
[05:56] <jimmy__> test: you too
[05:57] <lmosher> Kr4t05: just says: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[05:57] <DaSkreech> lmosher: What did you do?
[05:57] <Kr4t05> lmosher, that's all I got.
[05:57] <intelikey> lmosher sudo apt-get install libfreetype6
[05:58] <lmosher> DaSkreech: I've been installing a bunch of libraries to get wine to compile..
[05:58] <jimmy__> test: one more question
[05:58] <DaSkreech> lmosher: Why don't you just apt-get install wine?
[05:58] <lmosher> intelikey: I tried that: libfreetype6 is already the newest version.
[05:58] <test> jimmy__: yes?
[05:58] <lmosher> DaSkreech: Because I'm on a 64 bit machine and my particular application requires a patch to the source.
[05:58] <DaSkreech> Ok
[05:58] <jimmy__> test:  the drivers that are on the desktop, what do I do with them?
[05:59] <DaSkreech> lmosher: You can try apt-get build-dep wine
[05:59] <lmosher> it seems like it's complaining over a trivial version difference.. can't I just force it?
[05:59] <intelikey> lmosher you have the update repos enabled ?
[05:59] <lmosher> intelikey: yes I do
[05:59] <test> jimmy__: i would suggest you leave them there for now. It migt disrupt things if you move them
[05:59] <jimmy__> ok
[05:59] <intelikey> lmosher sudo apt-get update    then try again
[06:00] <jimmy__> ok no prob
[06:00] <jimmy__> thanx
[06:00] <jimmy__> later
[06:00] <test> jimmy__: anytime
[06:00] <lmosher> intelikey: hrmm: E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[06:01] <intelikey> lmosher pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:01] <intelikey> !paste
[06:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:01] <lmosher> alrighty
[06:02] <lmosher> http://rafb.net/paste/results/eSoWLj86.html
[06:02] <intelikey> k
[06:04] <intelikey> lmosher which repos failed ?
[06:04] <intelikey> wine ?
[06:04] <lmosher> let me paste the result of 'sudo apt-get update'
[06:32] <lmosher> intelikey: Good point.
[06:32] <lmosher> I'll get the hang of apt-get eventually :P
[06:32] <nrdb> hi I am having trouble with recording sound I installed the program "sound-recorder" it doesn't pick up anything.  I can here the microphone in the speaker if I tap it.  how come no sound is picked up with "sound-recorder -c 2 -f wav /tmp/test.wav" ???
[06:33] <nrdb> krec doesn't seem to get anything ether.
[06:34] <lmosher> You've looked a volume mixer and made sure it's set to record, right?
[06:34] <intelikey> nrdb you will have to select the mic as the input device to record from
[06:34] <intelikey> aumix is a good app for that also.
[06:35] <nrdb> intelikey: in kmix both the green and red light are on.  and I can here the mic. if i tap it.
[06:36] <intelikey> nrdb ok, but it may not be selected in the app that you are using.   check the settings for the app.
[06:36] <intelikey> one thing about linux; there are always more than one way to get there.
[06:38] <lmosher> crap wine's make just gave me the following:
[06:38] <lmosher> ld: Relocatable linking with relocations from format elf64-x86-64 (/usr/lib/libsicuuc.a(ubidi.ao)) to format elf32-i386 (gdi32.mMRENe.o) is not supported
[06:38] <lmosher> winebuild: ld -m elf_i386 -r failed with status 256
[06:38] <lmosher> the ./configure gave me no warnigns, but am I missing something?
[06:39] <intelikey> lmosher hmmm building 64 bit...... idk.
[06:39] <nrdb> intelikey: I told 'sound-recorder' to use /dev/dsp with "-A /dev/dsp" still nothing.
[06:39] <ironfroggy> if i have multiple kubuntu boxes, is it possible to share software between them? that is, to have /usr and /lib on network mounted volumes?
[06:39] <nrdb> intelikey: can you use /dev/dsp directly
[06:40] <ironfroggy> oh crapo
[06:40] <intelikey> nrdb yes.  but alsa uses /dev/snd/*
[06:40] <nixternal> weeeeeee
[06:41] <lmosher> intelikey: hrm after a google search I got a solution that says just add lots of libs that have 'elf' in the name :P
[06:41] <ironfroggy> asking again, since the netsplit pushed my message all wacko-like: if i have multiple kubuntu boxes, is it possible to share software between them? that is, to have /usr and /lib on network mounted volumes?
[06:41] <nrdb> ironfroggy: I don
[06:42] <intelikey> nrdb i'm needed elsewhere,  hope you get it.   maybe someone else can help you.
[06:42] <nrdb> ironfroggy: I don't see why not.  not an expert though
[06:42] <nrdb> intelikey: ok bye
[06:42] <intelikey> ironfroggy /usr  yes   lib i don't think so.
[06:42] <ironfroggy> why not /lib?
[06:46] <TehKewl1> I cant get xlib to install, which i need for my printer, conficts
[07:06] <iceman> BUENAS NOCHES DESDE MEXICO
[07:07] <DaSkreech> HI Mutaito
[07:07] <Mutaito> Hi
[07:07] <Mutaito> who wants talk for a while?
[07:08] <seth> Mutaito, if you just wish to talk, you should try #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[07:08] <Mutaito> -_-
[07:09] <DaSkreech> Good point :-)
[07:09] <diego> does anybody knows which is the best way to share the internet connection from kubuntu to windows xp ?
[07:09] <abattoir> a DoS ?
[07:09] <Mutaito> ok i got it
[07:09] <DaSkreech> abattoir: So  I wasn't crazy freenode did go down
[07:09] <abattoir> DaSkreech: "we're thinking it's a denial"
[07:10] <abattoir> i cant think of anything that has 'denial' in it other than DoS
[07:10] <DaSkreech> diego: I don't know about the best way but you could set Kubuntu as a gateway
[07:10] <DaSkreech> abattoir: Yeah I'm pretty sure thats what she meant
[07:10] <Hawkwind> Windows on the internet........are you insane :P
[07:10] <abattoir> hehe
[07:11] <diego> hahaha
[07:11] <Mutaito> Windows sucks
[07:11] <diego> i know, but i need it
[07:11] <Mutaito> configure kubuntu like a gateway
[07:11] <Mutaito> that's all
[07:11] <diego> does firestarter works on kubuntu ?
[07:12] <Mutaito> yes
[07:12] <diego> how can i configure kubuntu like a gateway, without being the pussy from crackers?
[07:12] <Mutaito> i  have not  problems with it
[07:13] <wolfmanz> How do i read a ntfs drive under kubuntu?
[07:13] <Mutaito> what you mean with crackers?
[07:13] <Healot> mount it, wolfmanz
[07:13] <Mutaito> mount -t ntfs /dev...... /media/.....
[07:14] <qwertybob> im going for the 64 bit install, no matter what you say
[07:14] <Mutaito> so much power with 64 bits
[07:14] <DaSkreech> Go for it!!
[07:14] <qwertybob> amd duo core i just got, but i am suspicious the bios was set incorrectly?
[07:14] <diego> with crackers i mean someone who can enter to my computer
[07:15] <DaSkreech> If you ca n virtualize it and run a Xen Dom 0 do that to!
[07:15] <DaSkreech> and run XGL!
[07:15] <qwertybob> bios was set for pci graphics when it has none
[07:15] <qwertybob> ive got xgl on s sony vaio runs great
[07:15] <sean_> lol
[07:15] <sean_> XGL is awesome
[07:15] <Mutaito> you can use firestarter for protect your network
[07:15] <sean_> D:
[07:15] <knapper> 16bits ftw
[07:15] <knapper> :D
[07:15] <knapper> it beats the rest
[07:16] <Mutaito> or you can made a firewall with iptables
[07:16] <qwertybob> do you think that bios was correct? or is hp screwed up , or return job
[07:16] <maryham> Hi Lynoure!
[07:16] <diego> i want firestarter because it can share my internet connection too
[07:16] <qwertybob> the box kind of looked like crappy tape job
[07:16] <maryham> Hope you had a sweet dream!
[07:17] <qwertybob> im thinking someone tried a pci card and returned it or im wrong about settings in bios
[07:17] <Lynoure> maryham: About average, I guess.
[07:17] <qwertybob> the default should be onboard graphics
[07:17] <wolfmanz> Healot ya i tried that and i get a error "cant find dev/hdb1in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[07:18] <qwertybob> i guess if it works, looks new anyway
[07:18] <Mutaito> i think that firestarter only protect from attacks, but try to use it, may be it can do it like you say
[07:18] <qwertybob> anyone else running 64 version?
[07:19] <qwertybob> last chance to unconvince me, it does boot a little slower live
[07:19] <Mutaito> 64 bit rules
[07:19] <qwertybob> im going to partition 200G for kubuntu then leave 40G for windows
[07:19] <qwertybob> ok
[07:19] <Mutaito> somuch power if you know use it
[07:19] <diego> i know it can, i read it in a forum and in the homepage
[07:20] <qwertybob> i need more power
[07:20] <diego> how can i change the workgroup ?!?!?!?!
[07:21] <Mutaito> edit /etc/passwd
[07:21] <qwertybob> or go to settings
[07:21] <Mutaito> user settings
[07:22] <DaSkreech> Mutaito: Huh?
[07:22] <Lynoure> qwertybob: groups are in /etc/group not in passwd
[07:22] <qwertybob> im using the ubuntu64 install iso to get to kubuntu desktop
[07:22] <DaSkreech> diego: You mean the Workgroup the computer is in?
[07:22] <Mutaito> ???????
[07:23] <qwertybob> dont listen to me
[07:23] <Lynoure> qwertybob: oops, ment that for Mutaito
[07:23] <diego> the workgroup form the network
[07:23] <Mutaito> haaaaaaaaaa
[07:23] <qwertybob> im not even running kubuntu sorry
[07:23] <Mutaito> i'm wrong
[07:24] <qwertybob> i have to be careful now, not to delete windows partition
[07:24] <DaSkreech> diego: As far as I know you set that in the Samba settings or in  The network in the System settins
[07:24] <diego> this is my first day in something that isn't windows ! !
[07:24] <DaSkreech> I really don't think that you need it though
[07:24] <qwertybob> system settings first
[07:24] <qwertybob> you should explore all the gui stuff
[07:24] <Mutaito> i undestand now
[07:25] <andrew_> is there a dvd decoder for linux?
[07:25] <DaSkreech> diego: Why do you need it?
[07:25] <DaSkreech> andrew_:  VLC :)
[07:25] <Mutaito> libdvd3
[07:25] <diego> why do i need what !?
[07:25] <diego> to change the workgroup?
[07:25] <andrew_> To watch movies
[07:25] <Mutaito> change your workgrup
[07:25] <qwertybob> stupid restore partition takes up 10G
[07:26] <Mutaito> skip it
[07:26] <qwertybob> i wonder if i should delete it
[07:26] <qwertybob> i guess i can worry about it later
[07:26] <qwertybob> right
[07:26] <Mutaito> yes
[07:26] <diego> i cant share files know, so I dont need it really, but i really need to share the internet connection in a safe way
[07:27] <andrew_> Is there a way to watch movies with linux?
[07:27] <Mutaito> ;)
[07:27] <DaSkreech> andrew_: VLC :)
[07:27] <Mutaito> use Mplayer
[07:27] <Mutaito> or caffeine
[07:27] <Mutaito> with restricted codecs
[07:27] <qwertybob> andrew_: or vlc
[07:28] <DaSkreech> diego: Does the Kubuntu machie have two etwork cards?
[07:28] <andrew_> I tried I need some codecs
[07:28] <diego> yes
[07:28] <qwertybob> !dvd
[07:28] <Mutaito> chek ubuntu wiki
[07:28] <qwertybob> restricted formats page in wiki
[07:28] <diego> i already share my connection with windows xp and a hub
[07:28] <Mutaito> search for restricted formats
[07:28] <qwertybob> !restrictedformats
[07:29] <Mutaito> lol
[07:29] <qwertybob> !mplayer
[07:29] <qwertybob> is it me or what?
[07:29] <diego> ...and two more computers as clients
[07:29] <diego> how is the gateway method?
[07:30] <diego> what may i do
[07:30] <qwertybob> Mutaito: how much swap for 2G?
[07:30] <qwertybob> or do i need any
[07:30] <Mutaito> your pc gives internet conection to other pc's when it is configured like gateway
[07:30] <Mutaito> 4 G
[07:30] <Mutaito> or more
[07:31] <Mutaito> at less
[07:31] <qwertybob> lol
[07:31] <diego> and how can i configure my pc like a gateway?
[07:32] <qwertybob> andre_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[07:32] <qwertybob> w
[07:32] <Mutaito> you need two network cards first
[07:32] <diego> i do have them
[07:33] <Mutaito> a router?
[07:33] <DaSkreech> !gateway
[07:33] <diego> one is connected to the modem and the other is connected to a hub... and a windows xp and a windows 98 are connected to the hub
[07:34] <Mutaito> if you've a router not needed
[07:34] <diego> i dont have a router
[07:34] <qwertybob> ubuntu64 is working real smooth live and I am installing at same time
[07:34] <Mutaito> then you need two netcards
[07:34] <DaSkreech> diego: echo 1 > /proc/net/ipv4/ip_forward I think
[07:35] <diego> what is the function from this command?
[07:36] <Mutaito> redirect your conection to one ip
[07:36] <diego> thats dangerous
[07:37] <diego> or am i wrong?
[07:37] <Mutaito> in so many cases, yes
[07:37] <diego> hey, can i download and install firestarter through the konsole ?
[07:38] <abattoir> !info firestarter
[07:38] <Mutaito> yes i think
[07:38] <abattoir> ubotu isnt there :'(
[07:38] <Mutaito> try to use apt-get intall firestarter
[07:38] <Mutaito> install
[07:38] <Mutaito> sorry
[07:39] <abattoir> diego: also prefix sudo before what Mutaito said
[07:39] <DaSkreech> diego: Try adept
[07:39] <wolfmanz> How do i mount a drive that i can see in konqueror is unmounted yet when i try to mount itkubuntu cant find the drive?
[07:40] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Huh?
[07:40] <Mutaito> your drive is not correct
[07:40] <diego> it doesnt work because it couldt find the package
[07:41] <wolfmanz> mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:41] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Ah Ok
[07:41] <Mutaito> you need add universe repository
[07:41] <DaSkreech> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /path/to/where/you/wantit
[07:42] <wolfmanz> i knopw the drive works find and is hooked up i use it in windows all the time so the drive is not the issues
[07:42] <wolfmanz> when i try the mount it tells me it cant find the drive
[07:42] <ports> hey
[07:43] <ports> can someone hepl me out with a jumpdrive?
[07:43] <Mutaito> diego: edit /etc/apt/source.list and uncoment universe repositories
[07:43] <Mutaito> and try again
[07:43] <Mutaito> sudo apt-get update
[07:43] <ports> i didnt dismount it before i ejected it.. now i cant get it to re-recognize with dmesg and mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbddrive
[07:43] <Mutaito> sudo apt-get install firestarter
[07:43] <ironfroggy> anyone here configure for a brother 420CN printer/fax/scanner? common machine, but i dont see it in the list, even tho i know brother's makes linux drivers for it.
[07:44] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Try that command I just gave you
[07:44] <Healot> !info firestarter
[07:44] <Teejay_wp> My music is playing at a faster speed than normal
[07:44] <diego> ~$ edit /etc/apt/source.list
[07:44] <diego> Warning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/apt/source.list" -- using "application/*"
[07:44] <diego> Error: no write permission for file "/etc/apt/source.list"
[07:44] <Teejay_wp> I think there is a problem with the settings in the sound card
[07:45] <DaSkreech> !universe
[07:45] <Mutaito> firestarter is a firewall with a easy use interface
[07:45] <Healot> prefix "sudo", diego
[07:45] <DaSkreech> Ahh where is ubotu :(
[07:45] <Healot> sudo nano file > diego, way easier than that
[07:45] <foxfire> !vnc
[07:46] <Mutaito> diego: use kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:46] <zaire> !vnc
[07:46] <Healot> obotu is off ;-
[07:46] <Mutaito> for a grafical editor
[07:47] <diego> it ask me for a password
[07:47] <Mutaito> type your session password
[07:47] <Healot> your user password
[07:47] <ironfroggy> hey im running the install, and its been sitting with the same progress percentage and time remaining for at lest five minutes with no hdd activity. what should i do?
[07:47] <game> Help, I have two user accounts in kubuntu. In one I can get nvidia opengl rendering to work fine, but in the other it wont. How can I fix this?
[07:48] <diego> i think it works, kate opened the list
[07:48] <diego> what mus i change?
[07:49] <Mutaito> uncoment the universe repository
[07:49] <Mutaito> it is something like this
[07:49] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: Desktop Cd?
[07:49] <game> anyone?
[07:50] <ironfroggy> DaSkreech: yes
[07:50] <diego> sorry, i dont speak english very well.... WHAT IS UNCOMENT?  TO DELETE?
[07:50] <Mutaito> deb http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe
[07:50] <Mutaito>  deb-src http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper univers
[07:50] <wolfmanz> Daskreech i did your i did the following sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/windows/ and it mounted it but now it wont enter the windows folder
[07:50] <DaSkreech> diego: If there is a # at the start of the line it is  commented out
[07:50] <Mutaito> just erease the sharp simbol "#"
[07:50] <Lunar_Raven> !ivman
[07:51] <DaSkreech> diego: That means that it is not used to uncomment delete the '#' and the line is used again
[07:51] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: What error?
[07:51] <Mutaito> save the file after do this
[07:52] <Mutaito> where yoy from diego?
[07:52] <Mutaito> where are you from diego?
[07:52] <diego> from chile
[07:52] <Mutaito> por que no dices que hablas espaol
[07:52] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech Konqueror is saying it cant enter the windows folder
[07:52] <diego> and you?
[07:52] <Mutaito> desde un principio
[07:52] <diego> jajajjaa
[07:52] <Mutaito> mexico
[07:53] <diego> mi polola se fue a estudiar a merida y me dej solo  :'(
[07:53] <diego> (polola=novia)
[07:53] <diego> que decias que hiciera !?
[07:53] <Mutaito> que mal
[07:53] <qwertybob> i just installed ubuntu64 boot to login was under 30 seconds
[07:53] <Mutaito> borra los #
[07:53] <diego> que hago en source.list ?
[07:53] <Mutaito> de las lineas universe
[07:53] <diego> ahh
[07:54] <diego> que hace el #
[07:54] <diego> ?
[07:54] <diego> es como poner REM ?
[07:54] <Mutaito> comenta la linea y es como si no existiera no hace nada
[07:54] <Mutaito> la comenta
[07:54] <diego> ahh
[07:54] <DaSkreech> Mutaito, diego: sorry but can I ask you to go to #kubuntu-es ?
[07:54] <DaSkreech> Muchas Gracias :)
[07:54] <Mutaito> i like to speak in english
[07:55] <DaSkreech> diego, Mutaito: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-networking/36843-internet-connection-sharing-linux.html
[07:55] <Mutaito> but this is a exception
[07:55] <DaSkreech> I think that would help
[07:55] <DaSkreech> Mutaito: I'm not saying leave here
[07:55] <Mutaito> ok ok
[07:55] <DaSkreech> I'm saying keep spanish conversations where it's not distracting
[07:55] <diego> in a moment DaSkreech, i'll go when i finish talking to mutaito in a few minutes
[07:55] <Mutaito> take it easy
[07:55] <DaSkreech> diego: Not asking you to leave here
[07:56] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech Konqueror is saying it cant enter the windows folder
[07:56] <DaSkreech> Just if you are keeping up a conversation in spanish then #kubuntu-es is a better place
[07:56] <diego> ok
[07:56] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: What error is it giving you
[07:56] <wolfmanz> that is the error
[07:56] <diego> what is the command to change the channel ?
[07:56] <DaSkreech> The URL I just gave you has two links off of it which should help you a lot
[07:56] <Mutaito> nol ehagas caso
[07:57] <Mutaito> que se joda
[07:57] <Healot> - /join #channelname
[07:57] <DaSkreech> diego: /join #kubuntu-es
[07:57] <diego> si, pero igual es util
[07:57] <Mutaito> ya que quitaste los # guarda el archivo y en la consola pones sudo apt-get update
[07:57] <diego> quito TODOS los # ?
[07:57] <Mutaito> y despues tratas de intalarlo otra vez sudo apt-get install firestarter
[07:57] <Mutaito> no todos
[07:57] <DaSkreech> You can always click back over here and talk if you like but long spanish conversations make it harder for us to catch english help requests
[07:58] <Mutaito> solo los de las lineas qu ese parescan a estas
[07:58] <Mutaito> deb http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe
[07:58] <Mutaito>  deb-src http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper univers
[07:58] <Mutaito> qu etenga esa notacion
[07:58] <DaSkreech> Mutaito: Umm
[07:58] <Mutaito> ok
[07:58] <Mutaito> sorry
[07:58] <DaSkreech> Thanks :)
[07:58] <Healot> deb http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse >> add this on line easier isn't it?
[07:58] <Mutaito> i finish with him
[07:58] <DaSkreech> Again not trying to run you away it's just distracting
[07:59] <DaSkreech> He's going to need help with the URL I just gave the both of you
[07:59] <Mutaito> i'll speak in english since now
[07:59] <DaSkreech> Mutaito: Thanks a lot for helping btw
[07:59] <Mutaito> sorry everyone
[07:59] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Right click on the Windows folder and tell me who owns it
[07:59] <diego> :( it doesnt work
[08:00] <DaSkreech> Mutaito: Not a big deal. Most people don't know about #kubuntu-es :)
[08:00] <diego> it didnt find the package
[08:00] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech root does
[08:00] <Mutaito> bad news
[08:00] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Ok well that's why you can't go in :0-)
[08:01] <DaSkreech> What are you trying to do in there?
[08:01] <Mutaito> add multiverse repository
[08:01] <burepe> I am trying to run this command "sudo apt-get build-dep banshee" and it keeps telling me I need a URI in sources.list what does that mean?
[08:01] <wolfmanz> The drive is under root but so to is the main linux drive and i can get in that no problem
[08:01] <DaSkreech> diego: Did you do an update?
[08:02] <Mutaito> sudo apt-get update
[08:02] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech i'm trying to access this drive is what i'm trying to do i need some files from it
[08:02] <diego> i did an update with Adept
[08:03] <diego> (i think it was adept)
[08:03] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Ok For a quick check try sudo cd into the folder from the command line
[08:03] <DaSkreech> :-)
[08:04] <Mutaito> add this lines to file
[08:04] <Mutaito>  deb http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[08:04] <Mutaito>  deb-src http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[08:04] <Mutaito> it must work
[08:04] <diego> en cualquier parte del texto?
[08:04] <Mutaito> yes
[08:04] <Mutaito> al final si quieres
[08:04] <fatejudger> does anyone know whether today's Edgy build is going to be the same as Knot 1?
[08:05] <diego> can you tell me the command again?
[08:05] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech sudo cd command not found
[08:05] <Mutaito> change mx for your country
[08:05] <Mutaito> like other lines
[08:05] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: sudo su -
[08:05] <DaSkreech> Then cd into the folder
[08:05] <diego> what was the command for changing the list with kate?
[08:06] <Mutaito> kdesu kate
[08:06] <DaSkreech> diego: Just press up :)
[08:06] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech no such file or directory
[08:06] <Lynoure> hmm
[08:07] <Mutaito> someone here is a pretty girl?
[08:07] <abattoir> heh
[08:07] <DaSkreech> Umm
[08:07] <DaSkreech> How about a girl? :)
[08:07] <rs3york> here we go...
[08:07] <abattoir> kate got you thinking? ;)
[08:07] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: What did you type?
[08:07] <Mutaito> it's only a question
[08:08] <diego> :S it doesnt work
[08:08] <Mutaito> sudo apt-get update first
[08:09] <Mutaito> sudo apt-get install firestarter later
[08:09] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech ok i got into the drive now i made a typo but how do i get the contents of the drive to show up in konueror?
[08:09] <ports> hrm
[08:09] <ports> how do i delete files from command line
[08:10] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: You would have to open Konq as root
[08:10] <Lynoure> ports: rm <filename>
[08:10] <DaSkreech> ports: rm of course :)
[08:10] <ports> Lynoure im using a livecd of Backtrack... and its mounted the hda1 as read only.. how do i change that
[08:10] <ports> i forgot the read only
[08:10] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech why cant i access the drive as a standard user?
[08:10] <Lynoure> ports: ask the channel, not me specifically... I'm morningish on my first day off from work :)
[08:11] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Because a) It's NTFS  and b) It's root's
[08:11] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech so this is the only way to access a ntfs drive?
[08:11] <Mutaito> mount -t ntfs
[08:12] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Nope but that's how you have it
[08:12] <ports> Mutaito whos that for?
[08:12] <ports> mount -t ntfs.. shows hda1 as (ro)
[08:13] <Mutaito> wolfmanz
[08:13] <ports> Mutaito ah.. any idea how i could remount this drive so its not read only?
[08:13] <Mutaito> mmmmmm
[08:14] <ports> im trying to do some data recovery cuz the Windows install is dead..
[08:14] <Mutaito> do you need writte on it?
[08:14] <DaSkreech> remount -o ro
[08:14] <ports> and hes got this damn folder of mp3s in his mydocs.. which im trying to delete so i can rescue it
[08:14] <uwo> simbosimbol
[08:14] <ports> DaSkreech remount command not found
[08:14] <DaSkreech> Whoops ;)
[08:15] <ports> DaSkreech unmount doesnt work either
[08:15] <DaSkreech> umount
[08:15] <Mutaito> ports: can you read the drive?
[08:15] <ports> yup
[08:15] <ports> im looking around copying files
[08:15] <Mutaito> use eject /dev/...
[08:15] <Mutaito> like root
[08:16] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech so why is it i cant mount this driver while not being root ?
[08:16] <diego> when i mount a NTFS disc, it tells me that inside the mounted folder are no files ! ! !
[08:16] <diego> WHY ?
[08:16] <ports> eject /dev... last error inappropatie ioctl for device
[08:16] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Cause it's not in the /etc/fstab
[08:16] <ackbahr> Hello! I'm trying to put my /boot/grub/menu.lst into the boot record, and get a strange series of error lines (and don't know if it actually worked!). Could anyone help?
[08:16] <ports> eject /dev/hda1 ... hda1 is busy... eject failed
[08:16] <Mutaito> mmmmm
[08:17] <Mutaito> this is so bad
[08:17] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech how do i get it in there?
[08:17] <ports> Mutaito oi vei i know lol
[08:17] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: man fstab
[08:18] <Mutaito> there is something use the disk?
[08:18] <DaSkreech> Sounds like it
[08:18] <ports> there was a Firefox window open viewing it.. i closed it
[08:18] <ports> nothing else
[08:18] <ports> im gunna try getting windows activation to work once more..
[08:19] <DaSkreech> man menu.lst
[08:19] <ports> its been a long day
[08:19] <ackbahr> Thnx DaSkreech
[08:19] <ackbahr> DaSkreech: "no entry"
[08:19] <DaSkreech> Doh!
[08:20] <diego> voy y vuelvo
[08:20] <ports> XP SP1.. had som Moviepass spyware.. i tried to remove it and install SP2.. moviepass kills the system when sp2 is installed.. i removed SP2 using the recovery console.. and windows became useless.. couldnt even open my computer.. no icons even showed up..  tried reinstall windows.. and now its sticking me with a stupid activation thing.. which i cant get it online to activate cuz it wont read the wireless card.
[08:20] <Healot> wolfmanz: you can mount a partition using "pmount", the same options, just a different commmand
[08:20] <ports> and the MS phone machine says my install id is invalid.. when im just reading the stuff off teh bottom of the laptop
[08:21] <Healot> ports: OEM CD?
[08:21] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Got your stuff btw?
[08:21] <ackbahr> ports: Might happen if you used this serial# with several installs.... (it's seen by network, then your serial# is marked as invalid)
[08:22] <ports> Healot yeah
[08:22] <ports> ackbahr its the only install.. i thinkit didnt recognize one of the activation codes.. theres 9
[08:22] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech no i copied the stuff to the wrong drive
[08:23] <ackbahr> ports: Might be! Or is your Kboard set up properly?
[08:23] <Healot> ports: reactivate... "%systemroot\system32\oobe\msoobe /r /a%"
[08:23] <ports> Healot cant even login
[08:23] <Healot> call microsoft?
[08:23] <ports> im on the phone
[08:24] <ports> its after hours... so i get a voice machine
[08:24] <Healot> speak to a customer rep, and explain about your case
[08:24] <Healot> ports? wait for tomorrow then
[08:24] <ports> no phone reps atm.. theyll be there in teh morning
[08:24] <ports> if i cant get it.. ill try again
[08:24] <Healot> sure
[08:24] <bob_> hello, could anyone help me with my postfix+sasl+mysql setup?
[08:25] <ackbahr> ports: You'd better, indeed.... Now, maybe one of these "keygen" programs fell on your serial by chance? The odds are 36^25 , but still....  :)
[08:25] <Healot> bob_: using the server CD?
[08:25] <Healot> ackbahr: those proggies failed :)
[08:25] <bob_> Healot: well not really, i've compiled it from sources
[08:25] <Healot> microsoft has been blocking those numbers for some times now
[08:26] <bob_> Healot: i've tried #postfix channel but noone seems to be there now
[08:26] <Healot> btw, since when #kubuntu becomes Windows support channel, heh
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Healot: Good question
[08:30] <ports> ackbahr nah.. its xp home
[08:31] <Healot> bob_: if so, please refer to the readme files and the docs... since ubuntu stock packages settings might differ from your compiled package
[08:31] <thyko> what happens when i remove usplash?
[08:34] <DaSkreech> Ok Bed tiem for me
[08:34] <ackbahr> 'nite
[08:34] <DaSkreech> Night wolfmanz, diego, ports
[08:39] <SpAwN> !restricted
[08:41] <SpAwN> how can i get aac codec support....im trying to use ffmpeg to encode with it....keeps saying i dont have it...but ive installed several packages that where related to aac
[08:41] <abattoir> SpAwN: no ubotu :'(
[08:42] <SpAwN> hehe yea i just notced
[08:43] <SpAwN> i found it....its in the restricted formates page
[08:45] <SpAwN> hmm welp i installed what it said and im still getting error saying no aac codec
[08:46] <SpAwN> anyone have an idea about this http://pastebin.ca/93149
[08:53] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech I got it now thank god
[08:57] <Jack1> hi are there skins /themes for kontact too?
[08:58] <osh_> SpAwN: What's "Aqua teen hunger force"? Also, apparently you don't have some codec that you need. Never done anything with ffmpeg so I can't say more than that.
[08:58] <SpAwN> osh_, its a cartoon from cartoonnetwork.....its pretty funny
[08:59] <Jack1> hi are there skins /themes for kontact too?
[08:59] <Jack1> havent found them yet
[09:01] <SpAwN> hmmanyone know why i cant unmount/eject my dvd rom driver....even as root
[09:01] <SpAwN> and the button isnt doing anything
[09:03] <wolfmanz> Whats with the lottle globe bouncing around when i load up firefox? even after the browser is up for a few seconds after its up i still have that blobe on my mouse pointer whats firefox doing?
[09:04] <dillinger> you can disable it
[09:04] <andrew_> Is there a way to move files with Konsole?
[09:05] <dillinger> andrew_: the mv command
[09:05] <dillinger> andrew_: man mv
[09:06] <andrew_> really so I would type file mv new folder
[09:07] <dillinger> mv -file- -newlocation-
[09:09] <ironfroggy> i have a problem with the installer. ive already installed on two boxes, and i get to the third and its failed three times in a row.
[09:09] <ironfroggy> but its failed oddly..
[09:09] <andrew_> I need to write files to a folder but I need Super user access.
[09:11] <ironfroggy> during the "configure kubuntu-desktop" stage, from a text install, the screen flickers and goes blank save for two white blocks, and the install seems to be continuing. last time, it even spat out the CD after a while, like it was done, but when i rebooted the grub menu wouldnt even load.
[09:11] <ironfroggy> trying it again, but ive already run into the blank screen issue.. waiting to see if the CD pops out again.
[09:12] <andrew_> Is there a way to write files with superuser access without konsole?
[09:12] <ironfroggy> what kind of files? copied files? edited files? downloaded files?
[09:13] <andrew_> I'm installing doom3 on linux and have to move the pk4 files from the discs to the folder
[09:13] <abattoir> andrew_: 'sudo konqueror' or 'kdesu konqueror' ?
[09:14] <andrew_> What would that do?
[09:14] <ironfroggy> if i see the "grub 1.5" line when i boot up, but it never shows the boot menu, what does that indicate?
[09:15] <Jack1> hi how can i configure kontact to start automatically egon desktop 2?
[09:17] <wolfmanz> is there a way to make the application menu smaller like you can in XP?
[09:17] <abattoir> Jack1: click on the icon on the windeco (top left corner) -> Advanced -> Special application settings
[09:18] <abattoir> wolfmanz: what exactly do you mean? Kmenu?
[09:19] <wolfmanz> abattoir ya where you can find the files and folder option that menu
[09:19] <abattoir> wolfmanz: smaller in the sense, you want to remove some entries?
[09:19] <abattoir> then try 'kmenuedit'
[09:19] <wolfmanz> no smaller in size it just seems big
[09:20] <wolfmanz> i'm running this install at 1024 by 768
[09:23] <andrew_> It didn't the klancher wouldn't work is there a other way to sudo
[09:24] <dillinger> andrew_: just type kdesu konqueror
[09:24] <dillinger> it'll launch konqueror with super-user rights
[09:24] <ironfroggy> what is the difference between a normal install and a server install?
[09:24] <dillinger> you'll be able to do whatever
[09:25] <andrew_> It wouldn't work it said Klauncher faild
[09:25] <leghumpingjihadk> I'm having problems getting quake3 to work
[09:26] <leghumpingjihadk> I think it's working, but the screen resolution is all jacked up
[09:26] <ironfroggy> is the server install just lacking X, or does it include extra packages as well?
[09:26] <leghumpingjihadk> I dunno...I'm a linux n00b
thx u know about thmes for kontact?
[09:28] <dillinger> well you know what andrew_, stick with the mv command, just type sudo before mv
[09:29] <abattoir> Jack1: themes, you mean for the blue curve background thing?
[09:29] <dillinger> andrew_: mv yourfile /path/to/your/forlder
[09:29] <dillinger> andrew_: sudo mv yourfile /path/to/your/forlder
well eg to make look kontact different yes eg in the style of bluecirve
[09:32] <abattoir> Jack1: afaik, you cant directly theme that
[09:32] <abattoir> it is not meant to be themed
[09:32] <abattoir> but there might be a way where you can change a CSS or something
[09:32] <abattoir> let me see if i can find sometihng
[09:32] <abattoir> *something
[09:33] <ironfroggy> anyone know what various combinations of LEDs mean what messages from the bios?
[09:34] <crimsun> that's motherboard-specific
[09:34] <ironfroggy> for example, what does it mean when all keyboard and drive lights are solid and the keyboard is non-responsive?
[09:34] <ironfroggy> certainly there are at least general trends?
[09:34] <crimsun> yeah, that's generally a stuck-key
[09:34] <crimsun> try a different keyboard
[09:34] <crimsun> are they ps/2 keyboard and mouse?
[09:35] <ironfroggy> no i think not. i get this and rebooting without touching the keyboard it will often go away, so it cant be a key, it would still be stuck.
[09:35] <crimsun> if so, make sure you didn't accidentally plug the wrong ones in
[09:35] <ironfroggy> yes, they are ps/2
[09:35] <ironfroggy> and no, i didnt plug the wrong ones in.
[09:35] <abattoir> Jack1: /usr/share/apps/kontact/about might interest you
[09:35] <ironfroggy> but at the same time i started seeing this, a kubuntu install locked up twice in a row.
[09:35] <crimsun> ironfroggy: you really need to consult the motherboard's manual
[09:36] <ironfroggy> didnt ship with the box. i dont even know whats in it.
 yes but i havent found donloadable themes so far
[09:37] <crimsun> ironfroggy: got a model # that you can reference via a Web search?
[09:38] <abattoir> Jack1: as i said, it is not meant to be themed directly, afaik
[09:39] <ironfroggy> crimsun: do you know the difference between a normal and server install, by chance?
[09:40] <aegeanlinux> a server install doesn't install with graphics pretty much
[09:40] <ironfroggy> as in, are there removed packages from the server install, additional ones, or both?
where in system settings could i specify eg bluecurve styleyes, but only for this application?
[09:42] <abattoir> Jack1: as i have said, these are not meant for the user to change them, hence you'd not find explicit options...
[09:42] <abattoir>  /usr/share/apps/kontact/about is where the files that kontact uses are stored
[09:42] <ironfroggy> is that even possible?
[09:42] <wolfmanz> can Kubuntu play mp3 files under a default install?
[09:43] <ironfroggy> wolfmanz: no, it borrows that limitation from ubuntu
[09:43] <crimsun> ironfroggy: which server, the option on the alternate install iso or the actual server iso?
[09:44] <ironfroggy> crimsun: alt install's server install option.
[09:44] <Jack1>  <abattoir>in /usr/share/apps/kontact/about the kontact.css file would need to be changed?
[09:44] <wolfmanz> xmms is the winamp clone right?
[09:44] <crimsun> ironfroggy: it installs just base.
[09:45] <crimsun> ironfroggy: meaning no X Window System or goofy stuff
[09:45] <abattoir> Jack1: yes, and the .html file along w/ the image ... depending on what you exactly want
[09:45] <ironfroggy> crimsun: ok so it doesnt include anything extra that server installations might need?
[09:45] <Jack1> <abattoir or could i just copy there a theme file?
[09:45] <abattoir> Jack1: there exists no theme....
[09:45] <crimsun> ironfroggy: not by default, no. You'd want the server image if you wanted that by default. (Of course you can always just manually install stuff beyond the server option.)
[09:46] <Jack1> <abattoir i c well thats quite a workload i guess
[09:46] <ironfroggy> crimsun: no i was hoping it installed nothing extra
[09:46] <abattoir> Jack1: for the last time, there exist no themes, these are not meant to be themed, but if you want it themed that bad, you have to do the dirty work yourself
[09:47] <ironfroggy> crimsun: i think something is going wrong in the install when it installs and configures kubuntu-desktop, but im hoping i can avoid whatever state is causing the problem by skipping that during install and just installing it myself afterwards.
[09:47] <Jack1> lol maybe another day but thx <abattoir
[09:47] <abattoir> Jack1: :)
[09:47] <crimsun> ironfroggy: are you using the graphical installer on the live cd?
[09:47] <ironfroggy> crimsun: ive used both
[09:48] <abattoir> Jack1: does it look that bad?
[09:48] <ironfroggy> graphical and text installers
[09:48] <crimsun> ironfroggy: ok, then yes, try the server option on the alternate installer
[09:48] <crimsun> ->away.
[09:48] <ironfroggy> crimsun: i will do that
[09:48] <Jack1> well no but it could certainly be better
[09:48] <abattoir> Jack1: you might see something better in edgy
[09:49] <Jack1> but <abattoir> i am sure that there once was an option like use this theme in this app only
[09:49] <ironfroggy> so instead of trying to create a seperate "theme", why dont you just improve the looks for inclusion in the project?
[09:49] <Jack1> well yes but maybe someon would need to draw new icons cant do that
[09:50] <abattoir> Jack1: 'themes' in KDE generally are the widget styles... the stuff like CSS are included by separate programs..
[09:50] <ironfroggy> you want to retheme an app but you cant draw a little icon?
[09:51] <abattoir> yaaaay
i didnt say that i want to do it right now when there is time in summer i could focus on that right now i have little knowledge about, well drawing the icon i could but it its reaally timeconsuming
[09:51] <abattoir> !splits and I rock
[09:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about splits and I rock - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:52] <abattoir> hehe, there ya go
[09:53] <Jack1> well thx guys i need to got c u later
[09:53] <abattoir> Jack1: dont worry, you'll do it one day ;)
[09:53] <abattoir> ugh, just late
[09:54] <macd> anyone used unix services for windows to mount NFS on linux?
[09:54] <macd> linux - linux works fine.
[09:54] <intelikey> ?
[09:55] <intelikey> "unix services for windows to mount NFS on linux?"   why would you ?
[09:55] <macd> b/c I have a NFS server and want to allow my windows machines to access it.
[09:56] <ironfroggy> macd: its really just much easier to use samba. NFS sucks anyway.
[09:56] <macd> well thats not what I WANT todo.
[09:56] <macd> the network architecture ad design is in place. Im not revamping it
[09:56] <macd> and*
[09:56] <macd> nfs works fine.
[09:57] <intelikey> i borked apt again.   hmmm and dpkg is hosed also...  eek!
[09:57] <macd> howd did you manage to break apt?
[09:57] <intelikey> it's not hard.
[09:57] <roniez> Has anybody here sucsessfully i nstalled jail on kbuntu?
[09:58] <macd> well Im trying to figure out what you changed?
[09:58] <intelikey> oh the dpkg problem looks simple enough.
[09:58] <macd> as in your sources list? or did you try to build a new versiob of apt from source
[09:58] <intelikey> dpkg: syntax error; unknown user "postfix" in statusoverride file
[09:58] <mathewfer> Hi I instaled a package (.deb downloaded from Internet) and how do I uninstall it? is there a program like RPM to list the installed packages & remoev?
[09:58] <intelikey> no niether.   it's a package dependancy problem
[09:59] <macd> mathewfer: 'sudo dpkg -i packge.deb'
[09:59] <macd> do that in console.
[09:59] <intelikey> mathewfer yes   man dpkg        and apt-cache is your friend
[10:00] <mathewfer> "dpkg -i" is to install? is it? what it the option to list all the installed & option to remove?
[10:00] <macd> mathewfer: yes apt-cache search <package search string here>
[10:00] <intelikey> mathewfer but the answer you are looking for is  'sudo apt-get remove <blah>'
[10:00] <macd> mathewfer: 'man dpkg'
[10:00] <macd> RTFM :P
[10:01] <intelikey> mathewfer dpkg -l | less
[10:02] <mathewfer> thanks. I will try now.
[10:02] <flaccid> what is the 99.8% id (From top) ? - >Cpu(s):  0.0% us,  0.0% sy,  0.0% ni, 99.8% id,  0.2% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
[10:03] <kraut> moin
[10:03] <flaccid> is that idle?
[10:04] <ironfroggy> idle, yeah
[10:04] <roniez> anybody here understand how jailer works?
[10:04] <roniez> i cant figure it out.
[10:05] <macd> roniez: do you want to run something inside a jail ?
[10:05] <flaccid> my ubuntu freezes up/goes a bit slow initiating commands. i don't know what it is. i thought it was heat, but its cool enough
[10:05] <macd> flaccid: are you the liveCD?
[10:05] <macd> well are you running the liveCD rather :P
[10:05] <flaccid> nope kubuntu server install
[10:05] <flaccid> i look like a cd sometimes but
[10:06] <macd> yeah, dont we all ;)
[10:06] <flaccid> like say i do a command man top ... it takes a few seconds or so
[10:06] <macd> what I do is run top in one screen and try my commands in another.
[10:06] <macd> also make sure you have the proper kernel for your arch
[10:06] <roniez> macd: i want to jail everyuser on my box, so they can only run like irssi/BitchX
[10:07] <macd> roniez: ahhh, well theres some pretty great howtos for chrooting users on the ubuntuforums.org site.
[10:07] <flaccid> well i assume this is fine 2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT
[10:07] <ironfroggy> maybe skip the commandline and drop them straight into one of those instead?
[10:07] <macd> flaccid and its a dual processor i686?
[10:07] <flaccid> no its single processor
[10:07] <macd> ironfroggy: well that could be defeated very easily
[10:07] <macd> flaccid: then dont run the SMP kernel :P
[10:08] <flaccid> why did it install the smp kernel then if its only 1 processor?
[10:08] <macd> is it a dualcore?
[10:08] <flaccid> nope its a p4 1.7 pretty old
[10:09] <macd> and my guess is b/c its server, just install the linux-686 kernel and reboot then remove the the linux-686-smp one.
[10:09] <intelikey> i686 is smp by default
[10:09] <macd> didnt know that....but you can definetly run the non SMP one.
[10:09] <intelikey> linux-686 is smp
[10:09] <elfshadow14> How can you have DVD playback on linux?
[10:10] <macd> !restricted-formats
[10:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about restricted-formats - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:10] <macd> blah
[10:10] <ironfroggy> elfshadow14: install illegal codecs (well, most likely illegal, depending on your location)
[10:10] <intelikey> !restricted
[10:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:10] <macd> thx.
[10:10] <flaccid> so do you think this could be the reason considering that cpu is idling fully and lots of ram etc. available??
[10:11] <ironfroggy> ok, ive installed kubuntu on this box three times, and every time i reboot and get "GRUB Loading stage1.5", a blinking cursor, and nothing.
[10:11] <elfshadow14> doesn't ubuntu have one in the package manager?
[10:11] <macd> flaccid: thats exactly what you want it todo.
[10:12] <macd> my celeron 2.4 mobile takea bout 1.5seconds to load man top
[10:12] <intelikey> check the forums http://ubuntu.com concerning smp and the late-model kernels   iirc you simply turn smp off.... <shrugs/>
[10:12] <elfshadow14> Is there codecs in the package manager?
[10:12] <macd> so I assume your p4 1.7 would take about 2 or 3
[10:12] <macd> elfshadow14: read the link !
[10:12] <macd> it sais exactly howto do what you want.
[10:13] <elfshadow14> What link?
[10:13] <macd> !restricted
[10:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:13] <macd> those links.
[10:13] <macd> the first is the one you want.
[10:13] <ironfroggy> is there some way to rescue a system which isnt getting to a grub menu?
[10:14] <intelikey> hmmm this 350 k6 loads top in less than one second.
[10:15] <flaccid> the only problem is i have never changed a kernel
[10:15] <macd> we were saying 'man top'
[10:15] <flaccid> i'm a newbie in this area
[10:15] <macd> flaccid its pretty easy
[10:15] <macd> sudo apt-get install linux-686
[10:15] <macd> reboot
[10:15] <flaccid> where should is start ubuntu br0ther?
[10:15] <macd> load up your console
[10:15] <flaccid> w0a thats easier than pulling a bj0ng
[10:15] <macd> and type that sudo line above^
[10:15] <intelikey> ironfroggy yeah  install a boot loader "lilo" maybe...  heh or grub.
[10:16] <ironfroggy> im getting the frub stage1.5 message, but no meny
[10:16] <ironfroggy> menu
[10:16] <ironfroggy> grub... ugh, i must be tired.
[10:16] <flaccid> macd: i get linux-686 is already the newest version.
[10:17] <intelikey> the tab key is your 'grubby friend'
[10:17] <ricardo> where do deleted files with konqueror go????
[10:17] <ironfroggy> what does tab do as my "grubby friend" exactly?
[10:17] <ricardo> please!!!!
[10:18] <ironfroggy> ricardo: they get, ya know, deleted..
[10:18] <macd> ricardo: in konquerer address bar type about:konquerer then click on trash, they should be in there.
[10:18] <intelikey> auto-completion   lists possable commands/partitions/options....
[10:18] <macd> flaccid: then I may be mistaken in thinking i686 is available as non SMP.
[10:19] <Jack1> hi i would like to exchange the icons in kontact; however in /home/johannes/.kde/share/icons/Crystal Clear there is just one theme crystal clear which is not the used one..so i cant find the folder where kontact stores its icons in
[10:20] <intelikey> ricardo .local/trash can of somekind.    but rm'd files are gone.
[10:20] <flaccid> what is SMP?
[10:20] <ironfroggy> intelikey: but its not getting that far.. it displays "GRUB ... stage1.5" and the keyboard locks up.
[10:20] <intelikey> macd forums on smp and dapper kernels.
[10:20] <ironfroggy> im in a rescue mode right now from the alt CD. is there something i can do to troubleshoot the grub configuration?
[10:21] <flaccid> which forums
[10:21] <macd> intelikey: is is available as non-SMP ?
[10:21] <macd> I just noticed my laptop is i686 SMP as well
[10:22] <flaccid> could this actually be the problem then?
[10:22] <intelikey> macd as i said,  iirc you simply turn off the smp portions
[10:22] <Healot> the current release has SMP 686 kernel
[10:22] <macd> intelikey: gotcha
[10:22] <macd> flacid: one sec lemme go readsomething
[10:22] <ricardo> F*****ch
[10:22] <flaccid> thanks
[10:22] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning everyone!
[10:22] <ricardo> what do u mean they are gone??
[10:22] <flaccid> heh im good at general linux, but never done much kernel stuff
[10:23] <MilhousePunkRock> I am having trouble with WPA
[10:23] <intelikey> ironfroggy yes chroot /<mounted installed linux> grub-install /dev/hda      or something like that.
[10:23] <Jack1> where in kde are the kontact icons stored ? so know?
[10:24] <intelikey> and please interpret <mounted installed linux>
[10:24] <ricardo> is there any way to undelete files???
[10:24] <ricardo> please!!
[10:25] <intelikey> Jack1 icons are like someplace in /usr/share/   do a find /usr/ -name '*.png'
[10:25] <flaccid> ricardo: what fs?
[10:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Can someone have a look at this --> http://pastebin.ca/92585
[10:25] <intelikey> ricardo if they are in the trash can.   if not they are gone.
[10:25] <flaccid> you can undelete with ext2
[10:25] <flaccid> but not ext3
[10:26] <flaccid> what does SMP stand for
[10:26] <ironfroggy> i reran grub-install, and also commented out the option to hide the grub menu, but i still get the same thing.
[10:27] <macd> flaccid: yes it looks like it sais its the SMP symetric multiprocessing kernel but its not actualy runnin g the SMP code.
[10:27] <flaccid> macd: but could that be the reason for process starting up slow?
[10:27] <macd> flaccid: negative.
[10:27] <flaccid> i should i change it anyway?
[10:28] <macd> theres nothing to change :P
[10:28] <flaccid> right
[10:28] <flaccid> this sux :(
[10:28] <macd> if its SMP then it uses SMP code, if not it doesnt
[10:28] <macd> there are quite alot of posts regarding performance with the latest kernel
[10:28] <macd> I havent noticed anything, it takes about 1.5 - 2 seconds to load man top for me.
[10:29] <flaccid> it can take at least 10 seconds for me
[10:29] <flaccid> even longer
[10:29] <macd> wow
[10:29] <flaccid> something is a miss
[10:29] <macd> do you see alot of disk activity?
[10:29] <intelikey> ironfroggy is the same device holding the mbr listed in the live cd as it is from bios.   i have see things like that swap around and confuse the heck out of grub.   also  is the partition that grubs files are on accessable via bios       cause if bios don't see it grub can't boot it.
[10:29] <flaccid> how can i check for disk activity?
[10:29] <macd> the light on the front?
[10:30] <intelikey> that is the reason i can't use grub here ^
[10:30] <flaccid> nah there is not really anything
[10:30] <ironfroggy> so can i install lilo on kubuntu?
[10:31] <flaccid> i suspect faulty cpu/mem/hard disk. but i don't know how to check any of these
[10:31] <intelikey> ironfroggy sure
[10:31] <macd> flaccid, do this, watch TOP in one screen and the command in another
[10:31] <ironfroggy> intelikey: what happens when updates install a new kernel? will it cause grub to be reinstated, or will lilo be used properly?
[10:31] <macd> you know use the shift+alt+f1 or f2
[10:32] <intelikey> it seems to take note of which you are using ironfroggy    i haven't had any problem with it.
[10:32] <ironfroggy> ok. ive had trouble getting grub on this box in the past, if im remembering correctly, so hopefully that will work.
[10:33] <ironfroggy> hmm.. trying to install lilo from the rescue mode, i get lots of errors "unknown terminal: bterm".. what does that mean?
[10:33] <jaffa> hey guyz do any of you know where i can find Alcohol or deamen tools for linux i have tried Mount iso and cd emu but it juz doesnt give me the power that i need any thoughts??
[10:34] <Healot> jaffa, get "bchunk"
[10:34] <flaccid> macd: no screen 0 on this i'm in ssh. not really any cpu activity while top is trying to load
[10:34] <macd> interesting
[10:34] <Healot> convert your stinky cdr/cue/bin into iso image and mount the iso image :)
[10:34] <flaccid> infact it doesn't look like its refreshing
[10:35] <macd> does dmesg give you anything usefull?
[10:35] <macd> you can paste your last say 50 lines or so for me in pastebin if youd like
[10:35] <jaffa> ok but i see
[10:35] <flaccid> but it will say 1.5% cpu , but sshd using 47.5%!
[10:35] <aegeanlinux> WallJam7: roses are red
[10:35] <ricardo> flaccid: ext3
[10:35] <aegeanlinux> WallJam7: violets are blue
[10:35] <aegeanlinux> WallJam7: all of my base
[10:35] <aegeanlinux> WallJam7: are belong to you
[10:36] <ricardo> they are not in the trash can!!  Can someone help me?
[10:40] <intelikey> it's a simple choice of having file fragmentation or having non-recoverable deletions.      the trash can works.   but if you rm blah in the terminal  or select delete rather than move to trash in a gui app  then you don't use the trash system at all.
[10:40] <wolfmanz> what do i need to get to play .AVI files ?
[10:40] <flaccid> macd: and here is the dmesg output: http://pastebin.ca/93220
[10:41] <intelikey> wolfmanz vlc
[10:41] <jaffa> has anyone here used Mount iso?
[10:41] <ricardo> so I have to put "move to trash" in konqueror?
[10:41] <ricardo> sorry konqueror
[10:41] <wolfmanz> is that something i can get from the adept manager?
[10:41] <intelikey> wolfmanz or follow the !restriced formats links
[10:41] <macd> correct ricardo
[10:41] <Healot> mount -t iso9660 -o lo mountpoint filename
[10:42] <macd> flaccid: I dont see anything out of the ordinary
[10:42] <jaffa> as in where you rite click on the iso and then click on action then mount
[10:42] <intelikey> ricardo no it's already there.
[10:42] <macd> maybee use dpkg to reinstall the kernel-686
[10:42] <macd> linux-686 rather.
[10:42] <intelikey> you have to use it.
[10:42] <ricardo> krusader was set to "MOVE TO TRASH"
[10:42] <flaccid> macd: sorry what command would that be, i'm a convert from redhat
[10:42] <intelikey> then open the trash app
[10:43] <intelikey> or have you emptied the trash sense the deletions ?
[10:44] <macd> flaccid 'sudo dpkg -reinstall linux-686' outta work
[10:44] <jaffa> i wanr to no how to configure mount-iso-0.9.1
[10:45] <jaffa> sorry *want
[10:45] <flaccid> i get dpkg: conflicting actions --control and --remove
[10:45] <ricardo> intelikey: no I havent empty the trash.....thats why I was so pissed off!
[10:45] <macd> flaccid: I thought that was it, try man dpkg ;)
[10:46] <intelikey> macd and the meda package linux-686 wont change the kernel will it ?     linux-image-686  maybe ???
[10:46] <ricardo> hey guys you wont believe what happened to me!!!!!!!
[10:46] <jaffa> no
[10:46] <macd> according to the forumn the i686 kernel has SMP code in it but depends on options passed to grub to actualy load that code.
[10:47] <ricardo> i had a latex file with over 5 hours of work in it.
[10:47] <ricardo> this morning i deleted it by error
[10:47] <ricardo> after that all the problem i've been telling you about trying to recover...
[10:47] <intelikey> linux-image-`uname -r`-686
[10:47] <ricardo> suddenly I realised that kile was still opened and guess what.....
[10:48] <intelikey> macd yup
[10:48] <ricardo> a copy of the file was there!!!!!!!!!!
[10:48] <ricardo> I am a happy person again!
[10:48] <flaccid> i can't find a reinstall option in man dpkg
[10:49] <intelikey> flaccid -i --force-all
[10:49] <macd> thats it force!
[10:49] <macd> Im really used to using aptitude rather than dpkg
[10:50] <macd> and synaptic has me spoiled.
[10:50] <intelikey> they are just front-ends to dpkg
[10:50] <macd> uh huh
[10:50] <flaccid> woa i'm confused, so whats the command to reinstall the kernel
[10:50] <macd> and I use the h-e-double hockey sticks out of them
[10:51] <flaccid> dpkg -i --force-all -reinstall linux-686 ?
[10:51] <macd> minus the -reinstall.
[10:52] <jaffa> so just if anyone wants to no to solve my problem of mounting what ever i want wen ever i want i installed vmware then vm windows the alcohol then mounted wot i wanted then in Kubuntu i linke a dive to the shared Vertiual rom on my vm windows and bam it worked
[10:52] <intelikey> flaccid "sudo dpkg -i --force-all linux-image-`uname -r`-686.deb"    it has to be the full path and file name for dpkg.
[10:52] <flaccid> ok got it thanks
[10:52] <intelikey> that example assumes that the file is in $PWD
[10:52] <flaccid> i get this but  dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.15-26-686-686.deb (--install):
[10:52] <flaccid>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[10:53] <flaccid> then it freezes..
[10:53] <macd> take the -686 off :P
[10:53] <intelikey> :)
[10:53] <intelikey> ok
[10:53] <flaccid> then i get dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.15-26-686.deb (--install):
[10:54] <intelikey> what was the error ?
[10:54] <flaccid>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory Errors were encountered while processing:  linux-image-2.6.15-26-686.deb
[10:54] <wolfmanz> How do i get xmms to stop loading up every time i want to see the files on a drive?
[10:54] <flaccid> do i have to d/l the package?
[10:54] <intelikey> yes
[10:55] <flaccid> ok do they by http?
[10:55] <intelikey> apt-get has a -download only switch
[10:55] <|lostbyte|> Hi ! Guys..
[10:56] <intelikey> don't know it off the top of my head and it would do you more good to look it up than it will for me to look it up for you.
[10:57] <intelikey> actually it will do me more good that way also....  :)
[10:57] <Healot> don't you know how to "cd", flaccid?
[10:57] <flaccid> cool. would this work sudo apt-get -d install linux-image-`uname -r`.deb or should it just be linux-image
[10:57] <macd> I usualy just goto packages.ubuntu.com then download em from there
[10:57] <intelikey> no.  drop the .deb
[10:57] <flaccid> Healot: err thats not ubuntu like
[10:58] <wolfmanz> How do i get xmms to stop loading up every time i want to see the files on a drive?
[10:58] <intelikey> use ls ?
[10:58] <intelikey> see the files 'where' ?
[10:58] <intelikey> in some gui app ?
[10:58] <macd> wolfmanz: did you set xmms as your default media player ? or maybee set it as the method for previewing files?
[10:59] <flaccid> see now apt-get goes slow/freezes...
[10:59] <flaccid> where can i get this .deb by http?
[10:59] <StupidMe> Is there a way to alter the Xorg.conf for my Kubuntu installation from the LiveCD?
[10:59] <intelikey> flaccid it will dl to /var/cache/apt/archives/
[11:00] <StupidMe> I probably messed something up there, now X won't start anymore
[11:00] <StupidMe> I booted from the LiveCD now
[11:00] <|lostbyte|> StupidMe, Yes ! you can..
[11:00] <intelikey> flaccid and you can dl it in a browser or with wget   the  http://ubuntu.com  has the linky thingy
[11:00] <StupidMe> Do I have to mount hda1 for that?
[11:00] <StupidMe> If so, how do I do that?
[11:00] <|lostbyte|> StupidMe, Yes !
[11:01] <flaccid> heh i can't find any link on the ubuntu site
[11:01] <|lostbyte|> StupidMe, with the command mount..
[11:01] <intelikey> StupidMe if /dev/hda1 is where linux lives.    sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[11:02] <|lostbyte|> hi ?:)
[11:02] <StupidMe> And now I can do "sudo kate /etc/X11/Xorg.conf" in the console?!!?
[11:02] <|lostbyte|> StupidMe, yes !
[11:02] <|lostbyte|> ok :)
[11:02] <flaccid> well sudo apt-get -d install linux-image-`uname -r stil outputs linux-image-2.6.15-26-686 is already the newest version.
[11:03] <intelikey> not in a console unless you attach kate to an Xserver  but in a terminal  yes.
[11:03] <wolfmanz> macd i'm not sure i thought i had it set to load only on mp3 so i'm not sure why its comming up when i goto see files on a drive
[11:03] <|lostbyte|> StupidMe, no no ! not.. sudo kate /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[11:03] <|lostbyte|> StupidMe, sudo kate /where/it/is/mounted/etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[11:03] <StupidMe> so it would be /hda1/ect/X11...
[11:03] <intelikey> flaccid look and see if it's in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[11:04] <intelikey> StupidMe no
[11:04] <|lostbyte|> StupidMe, yes, if so..
[11:04] <intelikey> not the device prefix   the mount point prefix.
[11:04] <StupidMe> Which is?
[11:04] <flaccid> i gues sit is
[11:04] <|lostbyte|> yes.
[11:04] <Jack1> hi
[11:04] <intelikey> StupidMe /mnt/  in the example i gave ^
[11:04] <StupidMe> ah, ok
[11:05] <flaccid> this is what is there linux-image-2.6.15-26-686_2.6.15-26.44_i386.deb linux-image-686_<IP_ADDRESS>_i386.deb
[11:05] <Jack1> how can i setup a splashscreen for a program? in system settings appearance there is this option not anymore
[11:05] <flaccid> which is wierd...
[11:05] <StupidMe> that's not working
[11:05] <flaccid> linux-image-2.6.15-26-686_2.6.15-26.44_i386.deb wtf?
[11:05] <StupidMe> Maybe it's something with Kate though, is there another editor on the LiveCD?
[11:05] <intelikey> flaccid sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.15-26-686_2.6.15-26.44_i386.deb
[11:06] <larson9999> can someone point me to a doc that explains how flash drives work in kubuntu?  mine automount just fine and i have read/write access.  but there is no entry in fstab like there was in mandriva so i'd like to read about how they work.  also, someone on a mailing list i belong to is asking about the fstab entry.  i looked at mine but didn't have any :)
[11:06] <flaccid> ty
[11:06] <flaccid> if this kernel has some issue, should i rollback to old kernel?
[11:06] <flaccid> some=same
[11:07] <|lostbyte|> StupidMe, Look into the menu..
[11:07] <intelikey> flaccid have you read the posting on the forums about smp and the latest kernels   http://forum.ubuntu.com   maybe ?
[11:07] <flaccid> i'll read now :)
[11:08] <macd> flaccid: it wont go away, so you can just select in it grub, plus Ive never seen it go wrong
[11:08] <flaccid> ok
[11:08] <macd> wolfmanz: well then your logical course of action is to first undo what youve done.
[11:08] <macd> yeah intelikey I rad it :P
[11:08] <macd> read*
[11:08] <flaccid> forum.ubuntu.com seems to not be in dns
[11:09] <macd> ubuntuforums.org*
[11:09] <intelikey> drop the forum and use the link
[11:09] <flaccid> is that different to http://www.ubuntu.com/community/forums ?
[11:09] <flaccid> ah its the same
[11:09] <|lostbyte|> Any one know why ktorrent takes a lot of processing power ?
[11:09] <wolfmanz> macd i think if i knew what caused it i would have allready revesrsed it
[11:09] <intelikey> nope.  just tried to reverse nds it.
[11:09] <StupidMe> What about a different approach... It's booting fine so far from the harddrive, only X won't start...
[11:09] <intelikey> i mean no it's not different.
[11:10] <macd> wolfmanz: you just said you made xmms default for mp3,undo that.
[11:10] <|lostbyte|> StupidMe, ctrl + Alt + F1
[11:10] <StupidMe> Is there a way to boot without trying to start X?
[11:10] <intelikey> StupidMe login into the console and do  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:10] <flaccid> heh now i just need to find which actual forum in there to look in
[11:10] <|lostbyte|> StupidMe, i think your inittab does that..
[11:11] <sonotos> hi
[11:11] <StupidMe> Let me describe the boot process... I see the Kubuntu logo, and it tells me what it does, everything successful
[11:11] <StupidMe> When it's through, I see the Kubunut logo again, with the progress bar "reset". And that's where it stops