[18:02] <Ubunewb> Hi everyone. How can it be that copy speed from one hd to another is 50 mb/s in windows xp, but only 25 mb/s in ubuntu 10.04? sata II on a sata I mainboard
[18:02] <oCean> SystemParadox: I have no iso with 'natty-desktop' in it, it's 11.04
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> daniturn: upgrading can cause issues. Are there any bugs logged?
[18:02] <rumpe1> ruan, 1000Mbps? "usual" cable?
[18:02] <raidghost> bla bla bla.
[18:02] <daniturn> ethernet cable why just do usb to usb
[18:02] <ruan> rumpe1: i guess, havent recieved the cable yet
[18:03] <SystemParadox> cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/daily-live/current/natty-desktop-i386.iso
[18:03] <ruan> usb is too slow for me
[18:03] <rumpe1> ruan, if it's a usual (not crossover) cable and your cards can't do the crossover by itself (like some(?) Gigabitcards), it won't work
[18:03] <daniturn> i had the worse nighmare getting dvds to work today
[18:03] <ashmew2> ruan: NEVER...NEVER Connect two PCs with a USB...NEVER
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> ashmew2: why not?
[18:04] <ashmew2> ruan: get a hub , fet two ethernet cables , all is well
[18:04] <ruan> ashmew2: yeah i meant usb flash drives, transfer speed was slow
[18:04] <oCean> SystemParadox: that is from pre-release, this is where you should be downloading: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/
[18:04] <ashmew2> ruan: oh kk
[18:04] <ruan> a hub?
[18:04] <Prasoon> how to combine two .deb into one
[18:04] <daniturn> ive run usb to usb on another laptop was fine
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Prasoon: why do you want to do that?
[18:04] <SystemParadox> oCean, I want rsync, releases.ubuntu.com does not support it, and zsync is BUGGED
[18:04] <ashmew2> ruan: yeah , an ethernet port switch or something...like it has 4 or 5 or 10 ethernet ports for putting computers over a lan.
[18:05] <scott__> hi, sorry if this channel is wrong, but I had an issue when downgrading from natty to lucid.
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> ashmew2: usb lan is simple and works
[18:05] <krambal> ActionParsnip: whats next :) ?
[18:05] <newbie007> ashmew2: also curious, why not (2 usb connected computers)?
[18:05] <raidghost> aplay -l finds 3 options. 1 is the front speakers. 2. is the subwoofer and 3 is the hdmi for sound on hdmi device.
[18:05] <hypetech> scott__: downgrading isn't really supported
[18:05] <daniturn> ok is there anyway to get tv on here without all the complications od mythtv
[18:05] <zs1otb> Help, I upgraded to 10.10 and now my video is not working... what can I do
[18:05] <sevoxx> ashmew2, Yes, why not?
[18:05] <raidghost> at the moment its using number 2 as default sound. I want to use number 1 as default. In gnome volume control its 2 and 3 thats found.
[18:05] <ruan> ashmew2: cant i just connect them with an ethernet cable? whats the hub for
[18:05] <oCean> SystemParadox: well, the link you're downloading from is pre-release. Anyway there is a link to the md5sums: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/daily-live/current/MD5SUMS
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> krambal: for what?
[18:06] <newbie007> daiturn: mythtv is more of a database telling ivtv when to record, mythtv doesn't actually do anything tv driver stuff
[18:06] <krambal> oh you just told me :P
[18:06] <SystemParadox> which matches the md5sums in the link you gave earlier. This is driving me mad
[18:06] <scott__> I mean I installed the / directory of lucid over the / directory of natty, and kept the /home partition.  I'm getting this error: Your photo library is not compatible with this version of Shotwell.  It appears it was created by Shotwell 0.9.2.  This version is 0.5.0.  Please use the latest version of Shotwell.
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> ruan: you can use crossover cable for p2p but you will need to set IPs  manually
[18:06] <daniturn> newbie007 than what should i be using because thats what ive been told to use
[18:06] <magepsycho> i tried to use netbeans 7.0 for php in ubuntu and it's too slow ... i m newbie btw
[18:07] <krambal> bah this is my vmware application info not my actual machine grrr
[18:07] <newbie007> daniturn: vlc, mplayer, you can also cat to a file
[18:07] <zs1otb> Help, I upgraded to 10.10 and now my video is not working... what can I do
[18:07] <SystemParadox> aha! my fault, I forgot to tell rsync to '-c'
[18:07] <GarryFre> I had the same experience with netbeans. Too slow. I went to eclipse, although its a bit confusing.
[18:07] <daniturn> newbie007: what for live tv
[18:08] <newbie007> daniturn: the physical hardware just creates a mpeg or jpeg, it's live or with a 5 second lag
[18:08] <scott__> Is there a solution, or do I need to reinstall natty? I was having problems with natty after doing an upgrade from 10.10.
[18:08] <daniturn> so how would i go bout doing that with a dvb-t stick
[18:08] <ashmew2> ruan: Hub is for putting PCs over a lan..like a gaming computer shop and sharing internet...and file sharing and everything...You can do two pc connections without a hub afaik , but you have to cross cables , as someone already mentioned..a hub would cut down on work , plus its cheap
[18:08] <surskitty> scott__: when are you getting this error?
[18:09] <newbie007> daniturn: the goal of mythtv is to connect a database of tv shows, with a recording, it also can delete commericals
[18:09] <surskitty> scott__: have you considered upgrading shotwell
[18:09] <scott__> surskitty - Immediately after I click on the icon to start shotwell
[18:09] <andsch> Hay all, folks. Is there a way to buy from itunes music store without wine?
[18:09] <newbie007> daniturn: the database is kind of nice, you can "SELECT tvshow where name like '*star trek*'"
[18:09] <surskitty> scott__: then ... upgrade it to 0.9.2?
[18:10] <daniturn> newbie007: ive tried everythin and still dont know where to start
[18:10] <Chazzd> The Windows irc is full of people yet no one talks, can anyone here see a reason why my windows temp folder wouldnt allow downlaods ?
[18:10] <zs1otb> Help, I upgraded to 10.10 and now my video is not working... the sound is OK... but no video on any application... what can I do
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> andsch: no, ituns uses propritary protocols so the  only way iswith itunes
[18:10] <coco> sacres me when i see those updating comments....
[18:10] <coco> scares*
[18:10] <daniturn> chazzd: no ive done that before
[18:10] <scott__> surskitty: I'm sorry, I'm a noobie, and didn't know if there was a PPA.
[18:10] <zs1otb> @Chazzd - because its windows....
[18:10] <hypetech> Chazzd: did the permissions get changed on the directory?
[18:10] <nibbler_> does shotwell by now support a hirachy in the tags? (like f-spot does)?
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Chazzd: windows is offtopic here
[18:10] <jrib> Chazzd: this channel is for ubuntu support, please be patient in the appropriate channel
[18:10] <newbie007> daniturn: it's not the easiest thing to setup, I've found that older hardware works better. I've got some sort of hauupgpahsp? usb device that works pretty well. Look into "ivtv"
[18:10] <andsch> hmmm... ok, that sucks, tho. :/
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> andsch: its apple, what did you expect
[18:11] <Chazzd> Its ju that this only happened after i canceld the installation of a library on ubuntu and everything went wierd
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> andsch: they are one of the most short sighted closed mided companies around
[18:11] <coco> Chazzd: why not doing a clean install
[18:11] <hypetech> Chazzd: where are you running ubuntu?
[18:12] <daniturn> this is confusing why cant it be as simple as windows media center on windows
[18:12] <newbie007> andsch: I think if you promise to snail mail apple your physical location every 5 seconds they will inturn snail mail you a cassette :O
[18:12] <coco> daniturn: what you talking about
[18:12] <zs1otb> Help, I upgraded to 10.10 and now my video is not working... the sound is OK... but no video on any application... what can I do
[18:12] <coco> playing dvds?
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> daniturn: xbmc is pretty neat
[18:12] <surskitty> scott__: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/i386/shotwell/download or http://yorba.org/shotwell/install/ looks promising
[18:12] <andsch> Actually I think they were pretty visionary on allowing people to buy individual sound files on the go.
[18:12] <Chazzd> Im gonna do a clean install of linux t osee if it clears u pthe problem
[18:12] <hypetech> daniturn: check out Boxee
[18:12] <daniturn> coco: setting up live tv from a dvb-t stick
[18:12] <newbie007> andsch: it wasn't their idea
[18:12] <Chazzd> well actaully im gonna upgrade it in recovery
[18:13] <hypetech> daniturn: oh nvm boxee won't help you with live tv
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> andsch: yeah if you run theright OS, other companies allow ALL OSes free reign
[18:13] <andsch> They were in sync with the eon urge to obsolete the compact disc media.
[18:13] <daniturn> i need a newbie way of doing it
[18:13] <daniturn> ive got boxee
[18:13] <newbie007> hypetech daniturn: the hardware doesn't matter
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> daniturn: once you setup the tv card, any app can use it
[18:13] <newbie007> daniturn: just use vlc
[18:13] <scott__> surskitty: do I need to upgrade through a ppa, or manually download a deb file?
[18:13] <coco> vlc is good for that daniturn
[18:13] <surskitty> scott__: pretty sure either works
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> daniturn: if you haven't setup thetv device then it won't work.
[18:14] <daniturn> how do i it up set up
[18:14] <daniturn> brb
[18:14] <GarryFre> Hmm, lets see. Natty is 11.04 and this guy says he upgraded his natty to 10.10. Something not right about this picture.
[18:14] <scott__> surskitty: sorry I didn't see what you typed until after I pressed enter
[18:14] <scott__> :)
[18:14] <scott__> I'll check those out, thanks
[18:14] <newbie007> can anyone point me to setting up multitouch on ARM and intel? Is this supported?
[18:15] <cheater53> hi!
[18:15] <coz_> newbie007,  that I cant dont know,, I am betting somone else does though
[18:15] <cheater53> i was talking here with someone but forgot the nick of the person :) sorry
[18:15] <coz_> newbie007,  rather that one I dont know,, the "cant"  was a typ :)
[18:15] <coz_> typo
[18:15] <cheater53> can someone look in their scrollback please?
[18:15] <coz_> bad finger day I think
[18:16] <coz_> cheater53,  hold on
[18:16] <cheater53> thanks, just search for "cheater"
[18:16] <newbie007> coz_: I've got a nook and a asus. I don't want google's creepy honeycomb.
[18:17] <newbie007> on boot is gives an error that the location service isn't working.. yeah no thanks
[18:17] <coz_> newbie007,  understood,, I am sure someone here can help with that particular thing
[18:17] <zs1otb> how do I get video to work on 10.10 after upgrading which does now not display on the screen. The sound is ok but no virdeo
[18:17] <coz_> cheater53,  my scroll back doesn go back far enough apparenlty hold on ...let me find the file and check
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> zs1otb: so you get a black screen when you boot?
[18:18] <scott__> surskitty: it works perfectly now, thanks for your help
[18:18] <zs1otb> no only when I play something such a avi or mp4 or even a flv .. however on teh firefox browser you tube plays with noe problem
[18:19] <ruan> zs1otb: can you play them with another player, eg. vlc?
[18:19] <reisio> zs1otb: mplayer -vo help
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> zs1otb: have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras
 yes I have and no player is giving video although all the players the sound is fine
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> zs1otb: try installing w32codecs from medibuntu too
[18:20]  * reisio headdesks
[18:20] <zs1otb> I have
[18:21] <coz_> cheater53,  I cant find it in my scrollback,,,, when was this?
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> zs1otb: also install gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[18:21] <kostkon> zs1otb, also, try installing ffmpeg and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[18:22] <needlez> zs1otb: have you tried playing them from the terminal??
[18:22] <dagon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iSUqqTXDOU&feature=related
[18:22] <ikerc_> http://www.pastie.org/1875427  howto search serial port like /dev/USBx ?
 I have installed all those and ffmpeg and <needlez> no not in terminal
[18:23] <needlez> sudo aptitude -y install mplayer-nogui... then mplayer /path/to/your/video/file
[18:23] <S4RY> Salutation
[18:23] <reisio> zs1otb: try a different vo, mplayer -vo help
[18:23] <reisio> S4RY: shalom
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> zs1otb: try different video output methods in the vide setting in vlc.i had to change  it on my nvida gpu'd system
[18:24] <coco> you need mplayer-gui its better
[18:24] <S4RY> i've been  facing this lately http://paste.ubuntu.com/604527/ , trying to figure it out.
[18:24] <reisio> coco: is that smplayer?
[18:25] <coco> no its mplayer with a basic interface
[18:25] <S4RY> I can't tell if it in ubuntu part , or from my ISP service provider.
[18:25] <reisio> coco: mplay.sf.net ?
[18:26] <S4RY> *it is in /
[18:26] <coco> no it should be mplayer-gui
[18:26] <valberg> hi - how do i get more workspaces in unity?
[18:26] <gilesw> heya all
[18:26] <S4RY> hi
[18:26] <reisio> coco: going to assume it's gmplayer, then
 No candidate version found for mplayer-nogui was the response and then it removed a lot of programs
[18:27] <reisio> smplayer is far superior
[18:27] <gilesw> ubuntu picked gnome classic after my nvidia drivers weren't installed automatically
[18:27] <reisio> but does require Qt, IIRC
[18:27] <coco> reisio`its different
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> valberg: in ccsm under general options
[18:27] <gilesw> i've got them installed now and want to try unity
[18:27] <reisio> coco: from gmplayer?
[18:27] <coco> gmplayer cant play url if i remember
[18:27] <gilesw> but the standard ubuntu session seems to be tied to gnome
[18:27] <gilesw> any idea how i change it to be unity?
[18:27] <usr13> How does one select vga mode in grub?
[18:28] <reisio> coco: course it can
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> reisio: smplayer isjust a different gui to the same mplayer, you can use gnome-mplayer and not haul in a tonne of Qt deps
[18:28] <reisio> it's definitely old and lacking in features, though
[18:28] <reisio> ActionParsnip: yeah, but does gnome-mplayer have all those features
[18:28] <gilesw> do i need to edit the gdm sessions?
[18:28] <coco> gnomeplayer is the one that cant play url
[18:28] <gilesw> does ubuntu still use gdm?
[18:28] <reisio> ah
[18:29] <reisio> gilesw: yes it does
[18:29] <gilesw> ta reisio
[18:29] <reisio> gilesw: log out
[18:29] <reisio> gilesw: choose a user name, then before entering a password, at the bottom, select 'Ubuntu', IIRC
[18:29] <coco> i dont know why they stopped mplayer-gui...i heard they stop doing it
[18:29] <reisio> (as opposed to 'Ubuntu Classic')
[18:29] <gilesw> thats the thing it hasn't selected classic
[18:29] <reisio> coco: because it was really old and underdeveloped, and better alternatives existed
[18:30] <ruan> is it possible to use kdm on gnome?
[18:30] <reisio> gilesw: what's it selected?
[18:30] <fridgerator> does anyone know the PPA for winepulse?  their website is always down
[18:30] <reisio> ruan: yes, but goofy
[18:30] <gilesw> just ubuntu
[18:30] <ruan> i tried but window decorations didnt work
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> coco: it can play urls, theshortcut is ctrl+L
[18:30] <gilesw> i think it's decided i don't have the hardware
[18:30] <valberg> ActionParsnip: thnx!
[18:30] <reisio> gilesw: so what's the problem?
[18:30] <paspro> smplayer is much better
[18:30] <ruan> when i ran compiz then it crashed
[18:30] <gilesw> so the ubuntu session loads gn 2
[18:30] <coco> ActionParsnip: thx for the trick
[18:30] <ruan> could've tried metacity
[18:30] <gilesw> i'm going to check the actual session config file
[18:30] <gsr> anyone else having this problem: updated to 11.04 (ended up doing a clean install from CD).  In both unity and gnome2, there are times where I get "stuck" in a focused window, and can't move to any other window.
[18:30] <gilesw> so impressed by the new installer
[18:30] <usr13> In other words, what would be the grub equilivant of lilo's line(s)  "vga = normal"  and/or  append="nomodeset"
[18:30] <usr13> ?
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> reisio: I'd assume the gui would take advantage of all the features, to not enable a user to do so makes no sense at all
[18:31] <gilesw> most painless install of any os for me ever
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> usr13: in /etc/default/grub   in the quotes with: quiet splash
[18:31] <ruan> gilesw: the livecd installer?
[18:31] <bindi> Hey, I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 and a GTX 570 (probably related) - each time I start up (in ubuntu classic), I get bunch of errors in the other screen.. like "trash" has stopped unexpectedly
[18:31] <reisio> ActionParsnip: well they didn't finish it, I guess
[18:31] <gilesw> ya
[18:31] <reisio> mplayer has a lot of features
[18:31] <bindi> The both screens have panels for some reason
[18:31] <reisio> I've never seen a GUI that can easily utilize them _all_
[18:31] <ruan> gilesw: is it much more different than the 10.10 one?
[18:32] <coco> mplayer is the bomb
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> usr13: run:  sudo update-grub  after edittin / saving the file
[18:32] <reisio> ^
[18:32] <coco> love it
[18:32] <gilesw> i haven't installed bunty in a while
[18:32] <gilesw> on desktop mind
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> reisio: what options do you  believe are missing?
[18:32] <needlez> ok still no luck with avi file?? zs1otb??
[18:32] <andsch> no. mplayer2 is the bomb.
[18:32] <paspro> is anyone experiencing video tearing on 11.04 with nvidia graphics card?
[18:32] <reisio> ActionParsnip: from what?
[18:32] <andsch> it's dev is very manly.
[18:32] <reisio> its*
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> gilesw: i fund xpudeasier, doesnt ask any questions ;)
[18:32] <reisio> mplayer2 is a joke
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> reisio: well you are saying gnome mplayer is missing sometings. Maybe I can find them for you
[18:33] <coco> mplayer2 ???
[18:33] <reisio> ActionParsnip: as compared to smplayer
[18:33] <ruan> is there a console-based video player which converts to text?
[18:33] <usr13> ActionParsnip: Right now,  quiet splash do not have quotes around them....
[18:33] <reisio> coco: don't give it a second thought
[18:33] <coco> lol
[18:34] <andsch> yes, the vanguardeous media player forked from the each day more relapse mplayer
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> reisio: yes but what is missing, i your eyes?
[18:34] <reisio> coco: some dork's attempt to usurp the mplayer name
[18:34] <usr13> ActionParsnip: We're talking grub2 here, right?
[18:34] <coco> lol
[18:34] <usr13> ActionParsnip: (I suppose it would be the same for grub1 as well as grub2...?)
[18:34] <mfpockets> hello all
[18:34] <jonas_> Hi everyone. I'm working on a remote server. I want to use the most recent version of vim. I compiled it in my home dir. Now how do I change the link so the most recent version will always be used? The change shouldn't be global but only for me. Currently set an alias in .bashrc but there must be a nicer way?
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> usr13: they should, yes grub2. here is my file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/604531/
[18:34] <mfpockets> Im looking for some help getting rt3070sta driver to work.
[18:34] <needlez> hey can plymouth be changed easily?? or is it still a pain in the arse?
[18:35] <reisio> ActionParsnip: as compared to smplayer, or in general?
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> usr13: grub legacy uses temenu.lst file and is cumbersome
[18:35] <reisio> jonas_: that's pretty nice...
[18:35] <mfpockets> i compiled the driver, and installed it, the device shows in iwconfig, but cannot see any networks.  if i disconnect the usb and reconnect it it says device not ready and in dmesg im getting failed to initialize rt28xx
[18:35] <astropirate> Could someone tell me where Gedit Plugins go in Gnome 3?
[18:35] <reisio> jonas_: could put it into /usr/local/bin/, though
[18:35] <kdelooping> am looping on the start up icons in a Natty Kubuntu install from DVD ... is to a fresh hard drive. Any tips to getting working?
[18:36] <mfpockets> i blacklisted rt2870sta and rt28xx but it doesnt seem to work.
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> reisio: i'll makeit easy: what features are in smplayer which aren't in (or you cannot locate) in gnome-mplayer??
[18:36] <andsch> http://www.mplayer2.org/comparison.html <- mplayer2 is lightyears ahead of mplayer.
[18:36] <mfpockets> also a lsmod shows rt3070 loaded but no device using the driver.
[18:36] <mfpockets> idea?
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> astropirate: gnome3 isnt supported here
[18:36] <samolly> ?
[18:36] <reisio> ActionParsnip: dunno
[18:36] <bindi> Fixed my previous problem..
[18:37] <spetrea> what's the inverse of pidof ?
[18:37] <usr13> ActionParsnip: Mine doesn't look like that.  (See:  http://pastebin.com/q82G9muL )
[18:37] <bindi> Is it possible to get Windows 7 style icons for the window changer? No titles, just icons
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> usr13: you DON'T edit grub.cfg. READ the top 10 lines of the file...
[18:37] <usr13> ActionParsnip: Maybe it's because I'm LTS (which has been through 3 dist-upgrades)..?
[18:37] <usr13> ActionParsnip: Oh.....yea
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> usr13: grub2 is grub2 in any distribution
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> usr13: try using eyes, it helps
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> usr13: I also said to edit /etc/default/grub
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> usr13: I never even mentioned rub.cfg so why you are messing with that file is anyones guess
[18:38] <krambal> http://pastebin.com/LHgpR4PL is the error i am getting when i try and run my bluray
[18:38] <krambal> any ideas
[18:39] <mfpockets> help with wireless usb card please anyone?
[18:39] <mehdi> hello guy
[18:39] <andsch> actually, grub2 is THE grub in every distribution.
[18:39] <andsch> Your computer can't be complete without it.
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> bindi: sure, grab an icon pack from www.gnome-look.org
[18:39] <daniturn> so im back
[18:39] <lwizardl> hello
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> andsch: some distros use Lilo
[18:39] <coco> clean install daniturn ???
[18:39] <Chipzzz> spetrea: you could try htop
[18:39] <triyo> Is there any recommendation about fixing sound when it is too low. I have my sound set to 100%, its far to low.
[18:39] <bindi> ActionParsnip: hum I mean.. you know, the taskbar? or window changer.. whatever
[18:39] <daniturn> i need a newbie guide to guide me how set up live tv with a dvb-t stick
[18:39] <coco> oh it wasn't you sorry...oops
[18:39] <avinashhm> Hi guys , i want to burn an iso image to a DVD .. not sure how in ubuntu .. any pointers please ..
[18:40] <jumpkick> what is the modern ubuntu way of setting up console frame buffers?
[18:40] <bindi> ActionParsnip: so there's no titles of the windows, just the icon of the program
[18:40] <andsch> ActionParsnip: These are subpar distros. True distroes use grub2.
[18:40] <mehdi> does anyone knows how to control screen brightness on ubuntu
[18:40] <bindi> ActionParsnip: like a dock, embedded in the panel
[18:40] <reisio> triyo: you should be able to artificially boost it with pulse or jack
[18:40] <triyo> I'm running 11.04
[18:40] <reisio> mplayer can use -af volume=10, etc.
[18:40] <andsch> ActionParsnip: Grub2 is so awesome some distroes ship only with it installed, nothing more.
[18:40] <daniturn> mehdi: power management
[18:40] <andsch> I would take my clothes out for grub2 any day.
[18:40] <krambal> reisio was that towards me
[18:40] <LinuxFetus> Hey I'm trying to install Ubuntu 11.04 64 bit on a machine with RAID 0 as its only HD configuration (i.e. I don't have a non-raid drive to install to).  Anyway, I _believe_ I have FakeRaid, if that helps -- but I'm in the Ubuntu installer and I'm wondering what I should select for the "Device for boot loader installation".  The two that seem reasonable for me are "/dev/dm-0" and "/dev/mapper/isw_babdfbfafa_RAIDVOL Linux device-
[18:40] <LinuxFetus> mapper (striped) (1.5 TB)"
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> andsch: gentoo gives the option of both
[18:40] <spetrea> Chipzzz: thx
[18:40] <triyo> reisio: what do you mean by pulse or jack?
[18:41] <Chipzzz> spetrea: yw
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> andsch: users have choice, just because you dislike an application doesn't mean it is the gospel
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> bindi: i believe it is dockbarx
[18:41] <triyo> Sound used to be higher, its gone far to low lately. Must have happened after installing something lately.
[18:41] <mehdi> i m running ubuntu 11.4 but there is no such a thing like controling screen bithness
[18:41] <andsch> ActionParsnit: But grub2 is the sex.
[18:42] <needlez> hey off topic question: what happened to pidgin as default?? I mean I still have it for me and know where to find it but why did ubuntu go away from pidgin
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> andsch: to you maybe
[18:42] <andsch> I have lost my virginity to grub2
[18:42] <bindi> ActionParsnip: that isnt embedded in the panel
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> andsch: youmay think similar of ubuntu wheras others dislike it
[18:42] <reisio> andsch: I should do that
[18:42] <donkeyinspace> hello, how to know if unity is enabled and how to disable it?
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> bindi: can you expand on your needs
[18:42] <bindi> ActionParsnip: actually it is :-) sec let me try
[18:42] <daniturn> anyone be able help me set up live tv with a dvb-t stick
[18:42] <triyo> Also I installed alsamixer and it shows a wrong sound card. ("HDMI" type..)
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> bindi: thought so ;)
[18:42] <lwizardl> Can someone tell me how to fix a few things in 11.04. 1) when i click on an email address it doesn't open thunderbird new compose. I overwrited the files in .thunderbird with my old ones from past OS install to keep all my emails etc. 2) how do i turn off the auto snap full window feature. 3) is there a way to add commands to the right click menu ? i want to add compress to a file type
[18:42] <reisio> donkeyinspace: you would know if it were enabled
[18:43] <tensorpudding> donkeyinspace: did you log into the Ubuntu session? are you running 11.04?
[18:43] <tensorpudding> donkeyinspace: if yes to both, you're running unity
[18:43] <coco> see you guys later :)
[18:43] <jeffrash> does anyone know if the custom option for preferred applications is coming back?
[18:43] <needlez> donkeyinspace: when you log in it lets you choose ubuntu , or ubuntu classic... ubuntu has unity, ubuntu classic doesnt
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> lwizardl: 3) look into nautilus scripts
[18:43] <mang0> lwizardl, all thinks I want to know :)
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> lwizardl: 2) look in ccsm
[18:43] <mehdi> how to reduce screen bithness
[18:44] <mang0> mehdi
[18:44] <donkeyinspace> needlez , dont see that option when logging
[18:44] <usr13> ActionParsnip: Done.  And grub-update reported no errors, so does that mean that I have not syntax errors?
[18:44] <daniturn> live tv anyone
[18:44] <usr13> *no not not
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> lwizardl: ubuntu tweak has a few you can enable easily, or you can download scripts online
[18:44] <mang0> you can either see if there are any buttons on your actual moniter
[18:44] <mang0> or google
[18:44] <mang0> !google how to change brightness in ubuntu
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> usr13: if update-grub ran smooth then all should be ok, reboot to test
[18:44] <mang0> fuu
[18:45] <needlez> donkeyinspace: if your on 11.04 you have that choice, on the bottom bar when you login
[18:45] <mang0> someone should put a !google command in, shouldn't be too hard
[18:45] <usr13> ActionParsnip: Ok.
[18:45] <reisio> I can make ubottu say things
[18:45] <donkeyinspace> needlez , thanks
[18:45] <LjL> mang0: it's not there on purpose. just giving the googles is not really encouraged... we have official documentation and stuff
[18:45] <needlez> donkeyinspace: np
[18:45] <mang0> fair nuf LjL
[18:46] <daniturn> live tv help anyone
[18:46] <surskitty> mehdi: screen brightness is in Power Management somewhere
[18:46] <needlez> daniturn: whats the problem exactly
[18:46] <mehdi> i checked but i couldnt find it
[18:46] <daniturn> setting up live tv im neewbie here i have a dvb-t stick
[18:46] <Bill_MI> Hi folks.  Can anyone help getting cpu coretemps from a Dell GX620 that is totally void of external sensors?  The Core2 Duo sensors don't seem to be available in Lucid LTS.
[18:47] <mang0> daniturn, I think you mean LiveCD
[18:47] <mang0> not LiveTV
[18:47] <mang0> ?
[18:47] <daniturn> no live tv
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> daniturn: run:  lsusb   one line will identify the device,us the 8 character hex id to find guides
[18:47] <needlez> system>preferences>powermangement> should come up with display set brightness
[18:47] <mang0> whats live TV?!
[18:47]  * mang0 wonders
[18:47] <webistic> I need help with ftp from server to server using the terminal
[18:47] <daniturn> tv that is live
[18:47] <LetterRip> I have a suggestion for the dev team
[18:48] <hypetech> webistic: what is the problem you're having?
[18:48] <mang0> Lol, you mean watching TV on the computer? Thats illegal if it's live and you have no licence...(in UK anyway)
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> LetterRip: report it on http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[18:48] <LetterRip> A lot of hardware for convenience access  - buttons, sound wheels - etc. not work out of the box
[18:48] <needlez> its just tv that can watch on computer...
[18:48] <mang0> okay guys, I've got a couple of questions: 1). when I have uninstalled an app, how do I remove it from the applications menu? It seems to stay there. 2). If I want to run an application of an external harddrve, how do I install it from the software center? it seems to not ask where I want to install it...and I need this app on an EXTERNAL not Internal
[18:48] <LetterRip> a possible way to fix this - is to have the user activate the button etc
[18:48] <daniturn> well we  gathered that otherwise i wouldnt have a usb tv stick
[18:49] <LetterRip> and have the hardware listening for signals
[18:49] <gilesw> hmm I looked in /usr/share/xsessions and I don't have a unity xsession file
[18:49] <LetterRip> and once it finds a new item
[18:49] <LetterRip> you can assign it
[18:49] <gilesw> could someone look in their directory?
[18:49] <LetterRip> to the appropriate function
[18:49] <needlez> daniturn: lspci so we can know what the device is exactly to look it up
[18:49] <joi_> hi
[18:49] <hypetech> gilesw: I have a "unity-2d.desktop"
[18:49] <needlez> or lsusb if its usb stick version
[18:49] <Chipzzz> mang0: to remove an item from a menu, right click on the menu, click on 'edit menus' and uncheck the shortcut
[18:50] <gilesw> hmm hypetech i don't have that
[18:50] <joi_> hi
[18:50] <The-Kernel> hi, so just install 11.04 and my GUI doesn't work. I never get a login screen, it just goes black, ps auwx doesn't even show gdm or gnome running...any ideas?
[18:50] <gilesw> just gnome ones
[18:50] <joi_> hello
[18:50] <gilesw> it's the only thing that cocked up on my install
[18:50] <mang0> ah, thanks chipzzz! :) what about my other question? any idea?
[18:50] <daniturn> ID 15a4:1001 Afatech Technologies, Inc. AF9015/AF9035 DVB-T stick
[18:50] <joi_> wadds up
[18:50] <gilesw> ubuntu didn't install the restricted nvidia drivers and modified the default ubuntu session to be gnome 2
[18:51] <The-Kernel> I also have an nvidia 9600 and duel screens
[18:51] <gilesw> i installed the drivers and want to give unity a try..
[18:51] <Chipzzz> mang0: when you install an app from software center or apt-get, the package tells the installer where to put the files... you can't specify another option
[18:51] <joi_> What are you talking about?
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> daniturn: ok now use that to findguides
[18:51] <sevoxx> Hmmmppph.... Unity has broken my apps UI
[18:51] <mang0> Chipzzz, can I move the file/s once I have them?
[18:52] <Chipzzz> mang0: unlikely... you'll confuse the system
[18:52] <mang0> bother.
[18:52] <joi_> hi
[18:52] <Chipzzz> lol
[18:52] <joi_> what?
[18:53] <mang0> that's really annoying....I want to download a game, but I want it on my 1TB hard drive, not my internal one. :/
[18:53] <daniturn> ok this is confusing looking up guides
[18:54] <Chipzzz> mang0: you can try it but I don't think it will work
[18:54] <mang0> ;__;
[18:55] <Osmodivs> Everytime I try to open an emulator or install Yahoo Msgr, I get this output in the terminal wine: cannot find L"C:\\windows\\system32\\plugplay.exe
[18:55] <Osmodivs> Of course, there are like dozens of more code than that, but I think that is the main reason
[18:55] <mang0> Chipzzz, there must be a way to do it though.....
[18:56] <daniturn> command line for being able run dvds
[18:56] <daniturn> ?
[18:57] <DarkStar1> Hello... Does anyone know of a decent mysql database viewer for 10.10?
[18:57] <mehdi> is anyone installed netbean 7 on ubuntu 11.4?
[18:57] <Chipzzz> mang0: there probably is but off the top of my head it sounds like more trouble than it's worth
[18:57] <julian_c> DarkStar1: try mysql-admin
[18:57] <hypetech> gilesw: I just checked on my desktop which also runs unity, and I don't have a unity file in that xsessions directory
[18:57] <Vhozard> Hi, ubuntu ram usage is currently at 850MiB, is there a way to reduce that ?
[18:57] <needlez> daniturn:  sudo wget http://www.otit.fi/~crope/v4l-dvb/af9015/af9015_firmware_cutter/firmware_files/4.95.0/dvb-usb-af9015.fw -O /lib/firmware/dvb-usb-af9015.fw           if usb is plugged in unplug it, plug it back in and you should see dvb-usb entries
[18:57] <NotNotSure> hello, I use ubuntu netbook edition and I don't like gnome interface. I want to go back to regular gnome interface. How do I do that?
[18:57] <DarkStar1> julian_c: thanks
[18:58] <mang0> hm, it would be useful though...I mean, I want a 1GB game, but I really don't wanna fill up my internal which is fairly small
[18:58] <woodzy_> i get the following error - http://pastebin.com/dw7Latex - when i try and install GGZ gaming.
[18:58] <Vhozard> NotNotSure: log out, at the log in screen select Ubuntu Classic
[18:58] <daniturn> is there a way to make 10.10 look like 11.04 with out updating?
[18:58] <Chipzzz> mang0: there's recompiling the app or mounting the external drive where the game installs... things like that but there are obvious downsides to both
[18:59] <mang0> I selected ubuntu classic, and it looked no differant Vhozard...
[18:59] <woodzy_> i get the following error - http://pastebin.com/dw7Latex - when i try and install GGZ gaming.
[18:59] <needlez> daniturn: install unity
[18:59] <alaing> what is freenodes support channel?
[18:59] <mang0> #freenode
[18:59] <mang0> ?
[18:59] <julian_c> DarkStar1: also be sure to install the mysql-query-browser package.
[18:59] <needlez> daniturn: no offense but I don't know why u'd wanna bother doin that though
[18:59] <cipher> I'm getting the following error http://pastebin.com/x394gbQp when trying to run 'ssvnc.' this started with an upgrade to ubuntu natty
[18:59] <bindi> How can I change the color of Indicator Applet Complete? It doesnt match the panel color.
[19:00] <cipher> I currently use bluetile as my window manager (gnome + bluetile)
[19:00] <daniturn> because 11.04 didnt reconize my wifi here
[19:00] <bindi> Or even better, why does having a >24px thick panel and "none (use system theme)" color make it have 2 colors?
[19:00] <billr> I'm attempting to setup 11.04, but when I attempt to install it, it fails to boot with the error message no init found, and drops me into busybox.  Any idea on how to fix it?
[19:00] <kdelooping> I was just trying install Natty and the first file system suggested is "ext4" but my old Hardy install doesn't know ext4 ... Does the ubuntu community recommend installing ext4? What file system are most of you using.
[19:00] <daniturn> when i updated
[19:00] <mang0> Chipzzz can I not just unhide the folders in my my home folder (.whatever) and move it somewhere else?
[19:00] <Vhozard> kdelooping: The default system everyone uses is EXT4
[19:00] <DarkStar1> julian_c: I'll try get them from the repos now
[19:00] <needlez> daniturn: i meant y bother making it look like unity? unity is a cluttered mess
[19:01] <Vhozard> kdelooping: You can use ext3 for great compatability however (it will not be as fast though)
[19:01] <daniturn> i liked some of it
[19:01] <Ariel_Calzada> hi i installed ubuntu 11.04 amd64 and my laptop turn off suddenly. I think kernel problem any help???
[19:01] <daniturn> 11.04 has real issues
[19:01] <needlez> daniturn: ahh , well then in synaptic there should be a package for unity, and you have to install it, log out and pick unity on the lower bar when you log back in if i remember correctly
[19:01] <Chipzzz> mang0: you can try it by renaming the hidden folders & copying the directory elsewhere... that way you can easily put it back if it doesn't work...
[19:02] <cipher> I just realized that (with respect to the error) that my .Xresources has the definition of the misssing s_base03
[19:02] <cipher> did something change about the use of .Xresources in natty?
[19:02] <Chipzzz> mang0: the problem is that games usually install in /opt or /usr/somethingOrOther
[19:02] <mang0> ah
[19:02] <mang0> dammit
[19:02] <mang0> :S
[19:02] <computermobob> Hi, don't know if this is the right place to say but, I have a 11.04 mythbuntu install, set to auto login. I have an emachine er1402 and when I suspend and then resume the screen is grabled, if I ssh in to the machine and sudo killall Xorg and then login, I can suspend and resume ok until the next reboot. Any suggestions? Thanks
[19:02] <DarkStar1> julian_c: can I tunnel connections through with this software?
[19:03] <hypetech> computermobob: the computer may not properly support suspend
[19:04] <natschil> sorry, my internet cut for a second... did anyone answer my question as to how to recover the two files?
[19:04] <computermobob> hypetech, it works ok if I kill Xorg the first time it fails
[19:04] <perlsyntax> Does wicd work better then network manger?
[19:05] <cipher> does anyone know if something changes with the treatment of .Xresources with respect to some set of packages natty might install?
[19:05] <mfpockets> Hi, im looking for help disabling on board wifi because im using a better usb one
[19:05] <cipher> I seem to be having trouble specifically with a TK application
[19:05] <cipher> err TCL
[19:05] <angelic> How do I go about fixing the wifi program that keeps showing "disconnected" even though i am surrounded by wifi networks
[19:05] <dagon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OBZyAb8gvE&feature=related
[19:06] <axisys> how do I disable ubuntuone-syncdaemon ?
[19:06] <julian_c> DarkStar1: checking on an answer...
[19:06] <mfpockets> lsmod |grep ath shows 4 drivers in use, ath,mac80211,cfg80211, and led_classless,  which do i blacklist?  just ath ?  or all of them?
[19:07] <mfpockets> angelic, can you show a dmesg |grep Insert_wireless_driver_name_here
[19:07] <tensorpudding> axisys: you can disable ubuntu one from starting at boot by un-checking it in startup applications
[19:07] <webistic> Trying to use ftp to transer from server to server via terminal. What do I type? something like.. cp my_site/ ftp://login:pass:server2.com/sites/ ?
[19:07] <cipher> I just resolved my own problem. it appears for some reason my .Xresources was not getting loaded. I was able to fix it using xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources
[19:08] <axisys> tensorpudding: how do I get to the startup applications.. learning unity :-)
[19:08] <hypetech> axisys: hit window key, type "startup", hit enter twice
[19:08] <mfpockets> axisys, only tried it briefly but maybe applications and type startup
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> webistic: no, you will need to run:   ftp<EMAIL_ADDRESS>then use put to upload the file.
[19:09] <julian_c> DarkStar1: tunneling does not appear to be directly available in the application. However, you should be able to set up SSH tunneling, and use that.
[19:09] <brian_of_tacoma> I am having a command line issue.  I installed Ubuntu Server 10.10 with no GUI.  I have now plugged a HP printer into it and I can't figure out how to "discover" the printer.
[19:09] <axisys> hypetech: thanks
[19:09] <axisys> mfpockets: thanks
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> !info ncftp
[19:09] <computermobob> hypetech: if i disable auto login it works fine. Need it to auto login as it will not have the keyboard attached
[19:09] <tensorpudding> axisys: all system settings are included in System Settings under the Power menu in the upper-right corner, and searchable by name in the applications lens
[19:09] <angelic> mfpockets: What I get from lspci | grep Network is... "05:00.0 Network Controller: RaLink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> webistic: install ncftp and you will get a nice ncurses gui
[19:09] <woodzy_> HELP! i get the following error - http://pastebin.com/dw7Latex - when i try and install GGZ gaming.
[19:09] <brian_of_tacoma> I thought hplip would work, but it needs a GUI
[19:09] <axisys> tensorpudding: thanks!
[19:09] <DarkStar1> julian_c: thanks.. I'll look into it
[19:09] <jakiechun> upgraded 10.10 to 11.04 now burn image to CD leaves me with a blank CD. Any ideas?
[19:10] <mfpockets> angelic, what about lsmod | grep rt
[19:10] <mfpockets> angelic, ps i just spent 2 hours getting rt3070 to work...
[19:10] <webistic> I get GUI on my laptop and not my server though, right?
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> woodzy_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -d     thanks
[19:11] <axisys> how do I get the alt+ctlr+backspace to logout ? i used to had that working on 10.10
[19:11] <hypetech> jakiechun: try removing and reinstalling brasero
[19:11] <axisys> i am on keyboard shortcuts
[19:11] <mfpockets> I want to disable my ath9k wireless card,  lsmod |grep ath shows 4 drivers in use, ath,mac80211,cfg80211, and led_classless,  which do i blacklist?  just ath ?  or all of them?
[19:11] <axisys> guessing it is there
[19:12] <hypetech> axisys: under desktop-log out
[19:12] <jakiechun> hypetech: okay will give it a go tx
[19:12] <mfpockets> angelic, try this instead to get rid of all the other resultswhat about lsmod | grep rt3
[19:12] <hypetech> axisys: near the top of the list
[19:12] <vooze> axisys, http://www.ghacks.net/2009/07/31/get-back-the-ctrl-alt-backspace-behavior-in-ubuntu/
[19:12] <paul___> is there some way to make a hard link that will change the name of the hard link if the name of the original file is changed?
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> woodzy_: also what is the output of:   uname -m
[19:12] <woodzy_> HELP! i get the following error - http://pastebin.com/dw7Latex - when i try and install GGZ gaming.
[19:12] <brian_of_tacoma> *patietly awaiting recognition of my server problem
[19:12] <dclake> does anyone have a working sync between ipod nano 5g and 11.04
[19:12] <angelic> mfpockets: rt3090sta (67416) 0 - agpgart (31724) 2 drm, intel_agp - parport (32635) 2 oodev, lp
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> woodzy_: if you answer my simlple requests I can advise, If you ignore and paste the same thing then nobody can help you
[19:13] <axisys> vooze: thats from 2009 .. still applies?
[19:13] <mang0> can someone ping me please?
[19:13] <vooze> axisys, no idea, just googled it ;)
[19:13] <hypetech> just change the keyboard shortcut :p
[19:13] <axisys> hypetech: i want to have alt+ctlr+backspace to do the logut
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> mang0: do you mean ping as in ping, or /whois you?
[19:14] <axisys> vooze: yeah.. dontzap is old.
[19:14] <axisys> vooze: i think it is lot simpler now
[19:14] <hypetech> axisys: so open keyboard shortcuts and change it...
[19:14] <mfpockets> angelic, your device isnt loading the driver properly..  thus the 0 next to the driver name...  Im not sure where to check this, but check in /var/logs for where it is trying to load the wireless driver.
[19:14] <abountu> I have a question about proxies - TOR in particular- in Ubuntu and Chrome, when I go to Chrome setup and change the proxy to use my localhost:9050 on the Socks host, and I click the "Apply System-Wide" button, does that mean as it says, everything on my machine is now using the TOR network to connect to the internet?
[19:14] <mang0_> Oops
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> axisys: you can re-enable CAB in the keyboard settings
[19:14] <mang0_> Lol, I ment ping as in mention me
[19:14] <mang0_> ;)
[19:14] <hypetech> mang0_: ping
[19:14] <axisys> hypetech: i did change it .. but that does not logout ..
[19:14] <axisys> ActionParsnip: ok
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> mang0_: achieved :)
[19:14] <mfpockets> angelic, what does dmesg | grep rt3 show? or dmesg |grep rt2
[19:14] <mang0_> thanks
[19:14] <mang0_> heh
[19:15] <needlez> angelic: what is the wifi card? lspci | grep -i network
[19:15] <brian_of_tacoma> I am having a command line issue.  I installed Ubuntu Server 10.10 with no GUI.  I have now plugged a HP printer into it and I can't figure out how to "discover" the printer.  I thought hplip would work, but it needs a GUI
[19:15] <mfpockets> needlez, its a Network Controller: RaLink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
[19:15] <axisys> ActionParsnip: ok i have logout bind to CAB .. but when I hit CAB i get the shutdown the computer menu
[19:15] <angelic> mfpockets: 05:00.0 Network Controller: RaLink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
[19:16] <torocatala> hi
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> brian_of_tacoma: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240282
[19:17] <needlez> try  blacklisting ALL rt drivers (i.e. rt2x00lib,rt2800pci,rt2x00usb,rt2x00pci,rt3390sta) EXCEPT rt2860sta
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> axisys: if you enable CAB in the keyboard options, there is an entry to change the combination to kill x server
[19:17] <abountu> I have a question about proxies - TOR in particular- in Ubuntu and Chrome, when I go to Chrome setup and change the proxy to use my localhost:9050 on the Socks host, and I click the "Apply System-Wide" button, does that mean as it says, everything on my machine is now using the TOR network to connect to the internet?
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> axisys: tick the box which says CTRL+ALT+ackSpace
[19:17] <mfpockets> angelic, dmesg not showing any errors...  not quite sure where to go from there...  for me the problem was my rt3070 driver was looking to load /etc/RT2870STA but the make install made RT3070STA folder instead. making new directory and droping files from one to the other solved my issue.
[19:17] <iCyrus> How do I make a file un-read-only from the terminal?
[19:18] <abountu> j /tor
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> iCyrus: chmod +w file
[19:18] <axisys> ActionParsnip: is it under keyboard layout -> keyboard pref ?
[19:18] <gsr> anyone else having this problem: updated to 11.04 (ended up doing a clean install from CD).  In both unity and gnome2, there are times where I get "stuck" in a focused window, and can't move to any other window.
[19:18] <mfpockets> angelic, try searching the ubuntu forums in case other users have posted similar results...  this was the case for me with mine and I found a solution.  Perhaps needlez may be of more help than I was
[19:18] <mfpockets> I want to disable my ath9k wireless card,  lsmod |grep ath shows 4 drivers in use, ath,mac80211,cfg80211, and led_classless,  which do i blacklist?  just ath ?  or all of them?
[19:18] <needlez> angelic: try  blacklisting ALL rt drivers (i.e. rt2x00lib,rt2800pci,rt2x00usb,rt2x00pci,rt3390sta) EXCEPT rt2860sta
[19:19] <axisys> ActionParsnip: i know i did it before.. let me keep digging
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> axisys: yes, the layouts tab. Options button
[19:19] <linlin> Any ubuntu PPC users in the house? Specifically anyone running on IBM Power4/Power5 ?
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> !anyone
[19:19] <axisys> ActionParsnip: got it.. that was it
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> axisys: ;) np (I always enable it.Guess I'm too old school)
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> axisys: it worked for YEARS, then it was changed, go figure. Luckily it can easily be changed back
[19:20] <LinuxFetus> I think something with ubiquity is going on: I run Ubuntu 11.04 64 bit live; I use GParted to create a logical partition and within that an ext4 partition and a swap partition.  Next, I restart the computer and run Ubuntu live, again.  I use GParted and see the partitions I created.  However, the ext4 one has a red exclamation point after it; apparently it has a bad magic number.  Any suggestions?
[19:20] <needlez> mfpockets: blacklist ath9k blacklist mac80211 blacklist cfg80211
[19:20] <iCyrus> ActionParsnip: I'm trying to do that to my VLC host file and I did it with sudo but it's still read-only for some reason
[19:20] <angelic> needlez: ya know another thing I found odd was when I went to "sudo ndiswrapper -m" it couldn't find the comman.
[19:21] <LinuxFetus> I realize the ubiquity part of what I sent probably makes no sense; I should have taken that out.
[19:21] <mfpockets> needlez, thanks.
[19:21] <linlin> I am attempting to boot a 10.04 PPC server build on an IBM Power5 system and it hangs at this stage in the boot of the installer: "Device tree struct  0x02d1e000 -> 0x02d32000"  Anyone with experience working with Ubuntu on POWER have any advice ?
[19:21] <brian_of_tacoma> ActionParsnip: Ok, I've tried this method.  I get confused at the line "sudo lpadmin -E -p hp5550..."
[19:21] <axisys> ActionParsnip: me too! :-)
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> iCyrus: run: gksudo gedit /usr/share/vlc/http/.hosts
[19:22] <axisys> i dont like to list of users in login window.. i want to type the username myself.. how do I change that ?
[19:22] <mehdi> what is Apply System-wide in keyboard preferences
[19:22] <Torocatala> So, I chrooted an ubuntu inside a fedora, but fdisk don't show anything. I must forgot to mount something, but google does not help me a lot. ¿any suggestion here?
[19:22] <axisys> i remeber changing it on 10.10 .. forgot :-)
[19:22] <iCyrus> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[19:23] <angelic> needlez: would another reason be that it seems I don't have ndiswrapper?
[19:23] <needlez> angelic: not sure maybe ndiswrapper was replaced with ndisgtk?
[19:23] <axisys> i like unity
[19:23] <tensorpudding> mehdi: it applies your keyboard configuration to every user on the system
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> axisys: http://linux.aldeby.org/hide-user-list-in-ubuntu-lucid-10-04-login.html
[19:23] <mfpockets> angelic, did you install the drivers off Ralinktech website?
[19:23] <axisys> just typed login and found the answer
[19:23] <axisys> login screen app has the switch
[19:24] <axisys> show list users -> unchecked
[19:24] <mehdi> ok but why my keyboard numerical doesnt work
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> needlez: ndisgtk is a gui for ndiswrapper
 How do I use the "put" part of what you said earlier?
[19:24] <mrp> Hello, i have a problem with my laptop and linux mint, i installed linux mint, everything is ok, but there is no sound, any ideas?
[19:25] <brian_of_tacoma> ActionParsnip: Here is my output from lpinfo -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/604547/         NOTICE: I don't get info on the usb:// direct connection
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> webistic: you'll find it easier to use ncftp
[19:25] <tensorpudding> !mint | mrp
[19:25] <needlez> ActionParsnip: thought so, it just was ndiswrapper wasn't isntalled, angelic: are you sure its installed??
[19:25] <axisys> i like dash.. it is like google search for applications
[19:25] <axisys> much faster to find stuff
[19:25] <axisys> w/o going through menus
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> brian_of_tacoma: not sure, make sure you have the latest hplip, may help
[19:26] <axisys> so much look like spotlight from apple .. except lot cooler display
 Ive installed ncftp. how do I use it.. its instead of ftp:server_url it is ncftp server_url?
[19:26] <Trillian> does anyone know how to stop vmware changing ubuntus appearance in 11.04?
[19:27] <bindi> Why does gnome-terminal open links in FF when chrome is my default?
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> webistic: just run:  ncftp  and you will get a text based GUI
[19:27] <webistic> does it need to be on the server or on my laptop?
[19:27] <webistic> ^<ActionParsnip>
[19:27] <axisys> webistic: just on your laptop
[19:27] <brian_of_tacoma> hplip is already the newest version.
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> webistic: its an ftp client
[19:27] <hypetech> bindi: there is some kind of bug where chrome isn't properly set as default system-wide
[19:27] <anonymity> anyone available for some help with the xIRC client?
[19:27] <webistic> thx
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> brian_of_tacoma: if you are using natty, there is a newer version on the hplip site
[19:28] <codelurker> Trillian: how does it "change its appearance"?
[19:28] <brian_of_tacoma> Maverick
[19:28] <needlez> anyone here know is there a better version of the driver for the Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller (rev 10)... I only ask cuz its the card that is built into my laptop, and I want to test with aircrack-ng if it becomes avaliable
[19:28] <Trillian> it just makes all the bars and windows grey
[19:28] <bindi> hypetech: any way around this then?
[19:28] <codelurker> Trillian: very strange
[19:28] <anonymity> needlez: have you tried looking through the aircrack-ng website?
[19:29] <angelic> needlez: it isn't cause terminal doesn't want to recognize it as a "command"
[19:29] <krishnandu> How can I install gnome 3 in Ubuntu??
[19:29] <bindi> hypetech: ah, In "preferred applications", ff is still default..
[19:29] <hypetech> bindi: I haven't seen one
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> needlez: the realtek site, you may need a patch
[19:29] <hypetech> bindi: hmm
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> !gnome3 | krishnandu
[19:29] <needlez> anonymity: yea, ive checked havent found much
[19:29] <hypetech> bindi: good call lol, that might work
[19:29] <bindi> hypetech: or it might have been me misclicking "set ff to default" when it opened instead of chrome :)
[19:29] <bindi> i'll check
[19:30] <hypetech> www.google.com
[19:30] <bindi> yeah works
[19:30] <bindi> :p
[19:30] <htcpx> Hello guys. I right clicked my Public folder, clicked sharing options and allowed sharing to guests and write access. When I browsed the computer from another on the network, $print appeared. I went back to the computer and installed 'Samba' from USC and in the application I saw the print share but not the public. Why is this?
[19:30] <hypetech> bindi: hah awesome
[19:30] <bindi> hypetech: thanks :-)
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> hypetech: uninstall firefox and problem is solved :)
[19:30] <hypetech> bindi: thank YOU :)
[19:30] <gaurav_natty> how can i get icons and themes in natty any link
[19:30] <N-S[X1]> Evening - what needs fixing when apt-get upgrade (nor dist-upgrade on a 10.04 system) does nothing at all, while the MOTD shows 35 updatable programs (21 security)?
[19:30] <krishnandu> ActionParsnip, Thanks, then I better leave it...I don't want my system to broke down. It's my primary os.
[19:30] <needlez> angelic: then install it from the cd or internet with sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common
[19:30] <krishnandu> Will do RnD somewhere else :P
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> gaurav_natty: www.gnome-look.org
[19:31] <temp> hey
[19:31] <N-S[X1]> or "does nothing" is wrong - it says there is nothing to update
[19:31] <temp> question
[19:31] <anonymity> i want to connect to another room, that I guess is located on a different server, anyone know how to do this with xIRC?
[19:31] <temp> why is there gnome-xchat and xchat
[19:31] <mfpockets> angelic,  did you install the drivers from the manufacturers website, or just built in ubuntu drivers?
[19:32] <gsr> temp: xchat uses gtk libraries, xchat-gnome uses gnome libraries
[19:32] <temp> doesn't gnome always have gtk installed?
[19:32] <crlcan81> Ok now I'm fucking irritated..
[19:32] <temp> what would be the advantage
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> temp: http://markmail.org/message/erjugegkvpmx24uy
[19:32] <IdleOne> !language | crlcan81
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> crlcan81: keep it family friendly please
[19:32] <temp> this is a better interface?
[19:33] <crlcan81> For one, I was in the wrong channel when I said it, and for two, it could have been worse.
[19:33] <temp> holy crap, xchat must look really bad
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> temp: if you prefer it, use it
[19:33] <temp> this thing is like a windows 3.1 app
[19:33] <angelic> mfpockets: just built in.
[19:33] <gaurav_natty> how i get indicator applets in natty
[19:33] <fghf> I've just installed Ubuntu and looking at ifconfig I see " RX packets:585142 errors:857 dropped:1241 overruns:857 frame:0" what could be the problem?
[19:33] <crlcan81> natty is a pain
[19:33] <mehdi> anyone knows how can i log in to ubuntu as adminstrator?
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> fghf: wired or wireless?
[19:33] <hypetech> !language | crlcan81
[19:33] <temp> mehdi, go to the terminal and type sudo su
[19:33] <fghf> ActionParsnip: wired
[19:33] <temp> then change the passwd
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> mehdi: use your own user and use sudo when you need power
[19:33] <mfpockets> angelic, try the package from this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1314747   post 5
[19:34] <mfpockets> angelic, lots of people say it works after that
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> mehdi: there is no administrator
[19:34] <gsr> I have to say, this has been the least successful update for me  Unity freezes, in both unity and gnome the focus gets stuck on a single window, and you can't move to another one until you close said focused window.  Flash takes up 100% CPU (both free and non-free), and 3D acceleration doesn't work.
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> !noroot | temp
[19:34] <gaurav_natty> how i get indicator applet in ubuntu natty
[19:34] <surskitty> temp: xchat looks a lot better than xchat-gnome, though it's still not that pretty
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> mehdi: your user is in a special group which can use sudo and gksudo, youuse those when you need power
[19:35] <tensorpudding> gaurav_natty: what do you mean?
[19:35] <mehdi> so what is the super-user
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> mehdi: keeps your system more secure as there are fewer apps running with super powers
[19:35] <mfpockets> angelic, you can also try the ones on ralink website http://www.ralinktech.com/license_us.php?n=2&p=0&t=U0wyRnpjMlYwY3k4eU1ERXdMekV5THpFM0wyUnZkMjVzYjJGa09URTNNVFl4TkRrMk1TNTZhWEE5UFQweU1ERXdYekV5TVRkZlVsUTFNemt3WDB4cGJuVjRVMVJCWDFZeUxqUXVNQzQwWDFkcFJtbENWRU52YldKdlgwUlFUdz09Qw%3D%3D
[19:36] <codelurker> natty makes me sad
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> mehdi: if you run:  sudo -i    you will have an admin terminal. The admin username is root, the account is disabled by default for security
[19:36] <angelic> funny the guy on the forum mentions MSI
[19:36] <angelic> XDD
[19:36] <angelic> I happen to be having the trouble ON an MSI
[19:36] <angelic> XDD
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> codelurker: why? never heard an OS make someone sad
[19:36] <mehdi> so how can i make changes with this display manager which reqiuers me adminstrator acces to make changes
[19:36] <tensorpudding> mehdi: it's an account which has full permissions and priviledges on the system. by default you can't log in as it
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> mehdi: yes, if it needs power, se sudo
[19:36] <mfpockets> angelic, for me the 2010 driver on the website didnt work, but the 2009 one i found in the ubuntu forums worked fine.  ndiswrapper didnt work for my ralink card so I wouldnt go that route until at least trying the chipset manfacturers driver
[19:37] <gsr> codelurker: agreed.  Its completely broken for me
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> *use
[19:37] <mfpockets> angelic,  you will need make tools for sudo make, sudo make install
[19:37] <dashlo> hey everybody
[19:37] <codelurker> ActionParsnip:  start of wrong direction for ubuntu, switching to new distro
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> codelurker: tried gnome classic?
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> codelurker: there are more DEs than gnome you know
[19:37] <anonymity> i would like to know how the sudo command is safer than having a root account that you access, since you only need the password for the account in use to run a command with root priv.
[19:37] <Trillian> has anyone here tried running 11.04 on vmware workstation 7.1? do you get problems with apearance as well?
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> codelurker: logging in to gnome clasic will make it look like maverick
[19:38] <tensorpudding> mehdi: when you get prompted for your password when it asks for administrative priviledges, what it's doing is letting you run a particular application as the superuser
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> codelurker: I assume you are aware of this due to your bold statement
[19:38] <Glycan> Here's what I've got: A toshiba satellite laptop which had vista on it, then openSUSE (in another partition), then it's screen broke and it got handed to me. I put ubuntu on it, and due to space issues, tryed to delete windows not beign clear about partitions at the time. (Oh, I forgot. It runs PhoenixBIOS) When it boots, it runs MS's OS chooser, from which I was able to run U's OS chooser (I'm
[19:38] <Glycan> pretty sure it was GRUB). Now that most of windows doesn't exist, it doesn't work. I tryed doing https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows , but ran into problems with live cd/usb. The working box I'm doing this from doesn't have working cd drives, so I burned dvd-r after dvd-r to no avail- all they showed was soem sort of busybox shell, not U. The I finnaly got
[19:38] <Glycan> my hands on a cleen flash drive (why are they called that anyways..?) and first put a  unchecksum'd copy on it, and that showed me a full ubuntu, complete with banshee and network settings, asking me if I wanted to install or live. Live showed but a black screen with a (working) mouse pointer on it. I then put about three copys of ubuntu on it, hopeing that they would work without restart (one
[19:38] <Glycan> was already there, the laptop overheated in the middle of the second one, the third on worked, and the 4th one was a failed attempt to put it on an existing partition. Then I put a checksum'd .iso on it, as per unetbootin-win-549.exe. When I boot on that, it sometimes boots a "UNetootin" menu, with Default, Help, Try Ubuntu without installign, Install Ubuntu, Check disc for defects, Test
[19:38] <FloodBot1> Glycan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:38] <mfpockets> Trillian, i read online that unity isnt working under unity for vmware
[19:38] <gsr> ActionParsnip: the problems I have with Unity equally effect gnome classic
[19:38] <mfpockets> Trillian, didnt work for me when i tested it out in vmware
[19:38] <codelurker> ActionParsnip:  i know.  ubuntu now = more headaches than worth.  been a good run though
[19:38] <mehdi> so how do i do that?
[19:38] <Glycan> I wasn't using enter for punctiation, you damin robot!
[19:38] <mehdi> i m confused
[19:38] <allu2> Hello, i was wondering how easy it would be to build ubuntu based system from the ubuntu server edition?(i want to avoid programs i don't need)
[19:39] <Kartagis> hello, after I upgraded to natty, I don't get video on avi file. what do I need to get?
[19:39] <boteeka> Hi everyone! Will somebody point me where can I get some help regarding the Appindicator Python API?
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> codelurker: try XFCE or KDE or another DE, changing distro for the sake of a CHANGEABLE DE is pretty sad
[19:39] <anonymity> Kartagis: you tried getting a video player yet? reinstalling one?
[19:39] <tensorpudding> boteeka: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationIndicators#Typical+usage+%28C+version%29
[19:39] <hypetech> Kartagis: are you using vlc?
[19:39] <tensorpudding> boteeka: there's a python example on that page
[19:39] <crazedpsyc> Wow, this channel is like NYC
[19:40] <mfpockets> angelic, well, probably the same issue in that case.  Hopefully that .deb package works out for you
[19:40] <Kartagis> anonymity: hypetech I am using totem
[19:40] <anonymity> Kartagis: I had the same problem with Maverick, until I got VLC, Totem wouldn't play anything for me
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: tried a different output video method in the options
[19:40] <mfpockets> angelic, also dont forget to blacklist the stock ubuntu drivers
[19:40] <Glycan> Serriously? I just spent about 20 minutes typeing all that, and you guys ignotr me? What the hell?
[19:40] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: how?
[19:40] <codelurker> ActionParsnip:  its not just the DE, its all the baggage (too much junk, i dont want).  spending too much time fixing, might as well build my own (arch, etc) or go with something with choices that are closer to my own
[19:40] <boteeka> tensorpudding: I am interested in setting the indicator icon and updating it periodically (btw, I found those pages too)
[19:40] <mfpockets> Glycan, patience is a virtue.
[19:40] <vooze> Kartagis, you should only use VLC ;) anything else is VLC.. nothing beets VLc.
[19:40] <Jeffsi> hey guys, i am unable to boot to cd while the hard drive is connected so i cant get anything installed, any ideas why this may be happening?
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> codelurker: then use ubuntu minimal and build up. I rip out tonnes from a default install, so I use minimal now
[19:41] <vooze> anything else is crap **
[19:41] <tensorpudding> Glycan: it's long, it's hard to read in IRC, could you please paste it
[19:41] <Oday> does anybody have experience in Oracle 11g on Ubuntu?
[19:41] <codelurker> ActionParnsip:  fair enough, minimal could be a viable solution
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> vooze: mplayer is a lot older and more mature than vlc
[19:41] <angelic> mfpockets: How to disable them? I forgot the command
[19:42] <allu2> Glycan: Toshiba Satellite A200 ?
[19:42] <Monotoko> hey :)
[19:42] <vooze> ActionParsnip, never really tryed it, to be honest.. i used VLC for 5+ years now.. never think i will anything else
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> vooze: also, the codecs from VLC get used in all the other players so both can play as many formats as the other
[19:42] <mfpockets> angelic, sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist,conf
[19:42] <axisys> ActionParsnip: where do you get the ubuntu minimal? jeos ?
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> !minimal
[19:42] <axisys> ActionParsnip: thanks
[19:43] <mfpockets> angelic, im a newb myself and only learnt this a few days ago, so not sure exactly what to blacklist
[19:43] <tensorpudding> boteeka: i'm not actually sure they wrote API docs for it
[19:43] <axisys> ActionParsnip: so if I need a ubuntu server.. i could just add the ubuntu-server pkg on it after the install?
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: vlc window -> tools -> prefs
[19:44] <axisys> ActionParsnip: i guess i could give it a try w/ my virtualbox
[19:44] <bsod1> can anyone help me? I can't run Software Center, here's my error output: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/384736/
[19:44] <sammy> ubuntu doesn't come with a firewall of any sort enabled by default, correct?
[19:44] <Oday> incorrect, sammy
[19:44] <Oday> there's "ufw", sammy
[19:44] <hypetech> sammy: ufw
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: video left button -> output. Try setting it to something different. I use 'default' on my nvidia system, could try others
[19:44] <mfpockets> angelic, gotta run, good luck!
[19:45] <axisys> sammy: by default everything off too.. find it most secure install.. more secure than even openbsd
[19:45] <angelic> mfpockets: thanks
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> vooze: so you have little basis for saying vlc is great except its a habit
[19:45] <Glycan> Er, not sure.
[19:45] <tensorpudding> boteeka: you can read appindicator.Indicator.__doc__, it shows the signals/properties it supports
[19:45] <sammy> ufw reports inactive. hypetech axisys you're saying it comes with ufw, but not necesarily that it's enabled by default, right?
[19:45] <Glycan> How would I tell if it's A200 or not?
[19:45] <boteeka> tensorpudding: I found how to set the icon, but it doesn't change when I set it again (I am generating a small png, so the filename is always the same)
[19:45] <Oday> right, sammy
[19:45] <Oday> you can enable it with "sudo ufw enable"
[19:45] <axisys> sammy: right
[19:46] <newb_> Hello. This bug is affecting me and here told it's solved, but my system is up-to-date and no solutions. Somebody could help me? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-sso-client/+bug/745540
[19:46] <Oday> and use Firestarter to configure it
[19:46] <vooze> ActionParsnip, well i have never seen anything VLC could not play.. So in my world its the best
[19:46] <sammy> iptables -L is completely blank.
[19:46] <allu2> Glycan: just tough as my Toshiba Satellite A-200 overheats with default ubuntu install but runs perfect on debian sid
[19:46] <bsod1> can anyone help me? I can't run Software Center, here's my error output: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/384736/
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> vooze: again, the codecs vlc uses are used system wide
[19:46] <sammy> thanks. I'm trying to get two machines to talk to each other on a simple wlan. neither can even get an arp request from the other one.
[19:46] <axisys> sammy: sudo ufw enable and then run the iptables -L
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> vooze: so if you install another player now, it will play all the things vlc can play
[19:46] <vooze> About what time after a release (like 11.04) are they starting to build 11.10 alphas ?
[19:46] <Glycan> No idea.
[19:46] <allu2> Glycan: i think it reads in the bottom or something
[19:46] <Glycan> Hang on
[19:46] <vooze> ActionParsnip, ah, did not know that :)
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> vooze: exactly :D
[19:47] <Glycan> Oh dear- lifting is going to be a horror
[19:47] <tensorpudding> boteeka: that's a bit odd, it probably doesn't reload the icon if the name stays the same, but i don't know
[19:47] <allu2> Glycan: i know, my screen is broken too :P
[19:47] <sammy> everything is defaults, the router is its defaults. both can go through the router to the internet just fine. my routing table looks okay (its the default, which should allow the machines to talk to each other since they're on the same subnet) and the router is a simple home modem/router which would by default allow machines on the wlan to see and talk to each other.
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> vooze: the fact it pulls in some codecs is nice but mplayer was doing all the stuff vlc was doing, long before it showed up
[19:48] <allu2> Glycan: lyes against my wall on my desk, giving me nice dual screen with external LCD screen :)
[19:48] <boteeka> tensorpudding: That was my hunch also, but I hoped somebody can point me to some doc where I can read it myself
[19:48] <boteeka> tensorpudding: thanks for your help
[19:48] <vooze> ActionParsnip, ah okay.. i just used VLC in my windows time.. Because it was (at least i think ;D) the best windows player
[19:48] <pankaj_sharma> even now.. mplayer has more options than vlc
[19:48] <sammy> but arp cant find a hwaddr for the other machine. and that shouldnt care about firewalls anyway
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> vooze: its a habit
[19:49] <Polah> Is it possible to only give someone access to the cp command using sudo and not other commands?
[19:49] <vooze> ActionParsnip, but whats diffrend from VLC to mplayer?
[19:49] <sammy> there's something simple staring me in the face and I can't find it :P
[19:49] <stiglix> I'm getting a The disk drive for /media/sda2 is not ready yet or not present message after having upgraded ubuntu last night, system dual boots.  If I try to skip it with S, I get mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth, but the fixes I've found involve editing /etc/fstab, and if I try to edit it in the maintence shell with someting like nano, I'm not sure how to get write permissions, can anyone help?
[19:49] <sammy> Polah: using the sudoers file, you can specify commands, but cp isn't a command, its a shell function. I'm not sure if its possible to allow access to what is essentially an internal function to bash or whatever shell the user is running.
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> vooze: different team for one, its fun to experiment. I use deadbeef alot too. Its light and fast
[19:49] <hypetech> Polah: not that I know of, a lot of basic commands are built into the shell
[19:50] <Scrap> I am looking in NX channel but no one is answering me can some one help with a ssh/nx issue or point me in another direction?
[19:50] <sammy> Polah: if its a particular command that will never change, you can put it in a shell script, restrict write access to the shell script, and allow the user access to the script itself
[19:50] <quiescens> you'll find cp usually is a command
[19:50] <fghf> bsod1: An indentical problem was solved at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1635664
[19:50] <quiescens> not many shells implement cp as a built in
[19:51] <hypetech> Scrap: what's your issue
[19:51] <quiescens> more to the point:
[19:51] <sammy> Polah: oops :P quiescens is right. that makes sense, too.
[19:51] <vooze> ActionParsnip, is GNOME Mplayer and mplayer the same?
[19:51] <dclake> irc.gnome.org
[19:51] <Polah> So what would I have to put into my sudoers file to only give access to it?
[19:51] <allu2> is it possible to install ubuntu on partition to test it and configure it to see if it works as i want and if it does then remove my current debian / partition and append the space diretly to ubuntus /
[19:51] <allu2> i have seperated /home
[19:51] <dclake> irc://irc.gnome.org/#banshee
[19:52] <sammy> Polah: but allowing use to cp as root would allow the user to use cp in some possibly very destructive ways that you might not intend
[19:52] <dclake> sorry trying out a command
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> vooze: gnome mplayer is a gui for mplayer, smplayer is the same but uses Qt instead of GTK. You can just use pure gnome if you like
[19:52] <q_terra_96> I use Ubuntu 11.04. I enabled "wobbly windows" effect from compiz. But every window is not wobbling :( How to enable this effect for all windows types ?
[19:52] <quiescens> Polah: even if you restrict someone to only being allowed to run cp using sudo, they can most likely get around it if they know how, so such a limitation would be more advisory than enforcable
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> vooze: pure mplayer, sorry
[19:52] <Scrap> hypetech: nx used to connect but now I notice in auth.log that <IP_ADDRESS> is refused when tryin to login to nx server
[19:52] <sammy> Polah:  it might be best to use the sudoers file to allow access to a very specific shell script with the cp command you want to allow them to use.
[19:52] <axisys> Polah: might be better if you explian what you are trying to achieve
[19:53] <Monotoko> is there any way to stop someone who SSH's in...changing user using su?
[19:53] <hypetech> Scrap: is the nx server service still running?
[19:53] <hypetech> Monotoko: don't give them user passwords :p
[19:54] <Polah> axisys: I'd like to give some access to using cp with sudo, to copy a file to another folder. However, I don't want them to have sudo privileges for any command, only copy.
[19:54] <Monotoko> hypetech...I use SSH keys, but the problem is I had one user who was trying to brute force my other users (he has since been kicked out..)
[19:54] <Scrap> hypetech: freenx-server is running I notice in auth.log that <IP_ADDRESS> is being denied, username and nx is allowed
[19:55] <jayasankar> hai
[19:55] <mih1406> A friend of mine is a student in college in Law. He asks me if he can help and work for the open source world.
[19:55] <axisys> Polah: if the folder has group write access and the user is also part of the same group .. he can cp there .. no need to have sudo
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> !contribute
[19:56] <mih1406> Can a lawyer (not a developer) help in open source?
[19:56] <axisys> Polah: have the user group read acces to the source folder and group write access to the dest fodler
[19:56] <axisys> folder*
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> mih1406: sure
[19:56] <smtx> howdy geeks
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> mih1406: i'm not a developer
[19:56] <mih1406> how?
[19:56] <mih1406> he is very keen to help
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> mih1406: read the link ubottu gave
[19:56] <mih1406> I will
[19:57] <Scrap> hyptech:sshd_config is listening to new port on <IP_ADDRESS> and I have also put that address in AllowUsers but no go... I am stumped..
[19:57] <smtx> i made a presentation (powerpoint) with graphics and exported it as .pdf now i want to show it on linux via kpdf. but it takes some seconds between the slides so i created a ramdisk and copied kpdf itself and the pdf-file/presentation into it. but i dont see a performance increase. if anybody could give me a hint how that sort of stuff could be speedup i would be glad
[19:57] <dto> hello everyone. i made a lovely ubuntu screenshot :)
[19:57] <dto> http://imageshack.us/f/849/screenshotycl.png/
[19:57] <Polah> axisys: The destination folder in question is my web folder, so I'd rather not give public write access
[19:58] <axisys> Polah: not public write access.. but group write access
[19:58] <axisys> public is other
[19:58] <q_terra_96>  I use Ubuntu 11.04. I enabled "wobbly windows" effect from compiz. But every window is not wobbling :( How to enable this effect for all windows types ?
[19:59] <A_J> I am Experincing lagg's while scrolling long folder lists in untuntu, anybody can tell me why.. I don't have a GFX Card Installed
[19:59] <Polah> axisys: How can I enable write access for a group then?
[20:00] <axisys> q_terra_96: as far as I know that should work for all windows.. logout/login and check again may be
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> A_J: you have a video chip which is fine, what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[20:00] <A_J> 1280x 1024
[20:00] <axisys> Polah: paste the ls -ld dir
[20:00] <q_terra_96>  axisys: i try it many times. i restart many times the system.
[20:00] <fridgerator> does anyone know the ppa for winepulse? the website is always down
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> A_J: run the command in terminal, what is output
[20:01] <A_J> ActionParsnip will brb, lemme go to another pc.
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> A_J: you need to run it on the system having issues
[20:01] <axisys> q_terra_96: you could try to create another user and login as that user and see if you experience the same
[20:01] <q_terra_96> axisys: the same :) it try it too..
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> fridgerator: https://launchpad.net/~c-korn/+archive/ppa
[20:02] <axisys> q_terra_96: hmm.. try as that other user, disable and reenable wobbly ..
[20:02] <fridgerator> thanks!!
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> fridgerator: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1587344
[20:02] <aliisonline> Hi All. This is my very first visit to an irc channel over ubuntu
[20:03] <Distress> Just got a random  pop-up window about upgrading to 11.04, isnt it still in beta? and if so, why encourage to upgrade to an unstable version?
[20:03] <axisys> Polah: paste the ls -ld dir  in this channel or post the pastebin link here if the output is more than 2 lines
[20:03] <A_J_> ActionParsnip, what was that command
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> aliisonline: welcome :)
[20:03] <nerdshell> what is the path of the apt repos list please ?
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> A_J: lspci | grep -i vga
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> nerdshell: /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:03] <DJones> Distress: 1104 was released last month
[20:03] <nerdshell> ActionParsnip: thanks ;)
[20:03] <A_J_> ActionParsnip,  00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 10)
[20:03] <aliisonline> Thnks ACTIONPARSNIP
[20:04] <stiglix> I need to edit /etc/fstab in a maintance shell, how can I do this?
[20:04] <q_terra_96> axisys: oh.. i try them many many times. i also change little bit the settings inside of "wobbly windows" of ccsm but it doens not change anything.. and i retrun the settings back...
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> stiglix: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[20:04] <Polah> axisys: of the destination folder?
[20:04] <axisys> q_terra_96: using unity?
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> A_J: and the output of:  lsb_release -d
[20:04] <axisys> Polah: yes please
[20:04] <stiglix> if i try to edit it with nano, it says Error writing /etc/fstab: Read-only file system
[20:04] <q_terra_96> axisys: no i never log on with unity (maybe one time , i don't remeber)
[20:05] <hypetech> stiglix: use sudo to edit it
[20:05] <Polah> axisys: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May  7 22:45 .
[20:05] <A_J_> ActionParsnip, No LSB modules are available. Please hilight A_J_ not A_J
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> stiglix: then you may need to fsck it, or remount is as writable
[20:05] <Captainkrtek> Hey all the new Ubuntu users out there, if you have time fill out this survey! http://bit.ly/lZk5xw
[20:05] <aliisonline> well then use gksu nautilus
[20:05] <nerdshell> ActionParsnip:  the path you gave me is just for universe and multiverse sources, I wan the editable file which contains the sources of all applications, because I'm having problems with chrome's Repo
[20:05] <axisys> q_terra_96: then ask in #compiz
[20:05] <q_terra_96>  axisys:  ok thank you! :)
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> A_J: ok try:   cat /etc/lsb-release | grep CODE
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> A_J: note that CODE is in caps
[20:06] <A_J_> DISTRIB_CODENAME=maverick
[20:06] <A_J_>  ActionParsnip
[20:06] <LinuxFetus> Can anyone tell me where I should go for Fake RAID help?  I'm guessing from the lack of response here that no one knows how to help me.  I restored the Windows MBR and cannot use Linux on my computer until I get this figured out.
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> A_J: ok cool
[20:06] <aliisonline> I am facing a little problem also can you guys help me.
[20:06] <sammy> fyi when you use a dumpy qwest-provided actiontec pk5000 router/modem and use two different SSIDs, the router apparently separates the clients into different vlans, even though the subnets are identical, and the individual clients on the different SSIDs cant see each other. a poor solution to having to enable WEP for devices that can't handle WPA, imho.
[20:06] <penguin42> LinuxFetus: Is it one provided by the bios ?
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> A_J: may help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes
[20:06] <axisys> Polah: groupadd mynewgroup; chgrp myhewgroup dir_name ; chmod g+w dir_name; adduser myuser myhewgroup
[20:07] <LinuxFetus> penguin42, I believe so.  There are RAID configuration options provided in the BIOS setup.
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> A_J: those intel 8 series chips are really touchy and can cause issues
[20:07] <Polah> axisys: Thanks
[20:07] <A_J_> ActionParsnip, i will check.. ty
[20:07] <axisys> Polah: np
[20:07] <Glycan> Sorry, guys.
[20:07] <Glycan> My box was... stuff.
[20:07] <penguin42> LinuxFetus: And what does Linux see?
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> A_J: don't install the lucid kernels, use the other fixes
[20:08] <jeanpaulsartre> mimic: A_J: don't install the lucid kernels, use the other fixes
[20:08] <A_J_> ActionParsnip, how can i check which series my chip is ?
[20:08] <jeanpaulsartre> mimic: ActionParsnip, how can i check which series my chip is ?
[20:08] <Glycan> Can someone PM my text, please?
[20:08] <jeanpaulsartre> mimic: Can someone PM my text, please?
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> jeanpaulsartre: lspci | grep -i vga
[20:08] <Glycan> Also an answer..
[20:08] <Glycan> BTW: It's toshiba satallite215
[20:08] <Glycan> A215
[20:08] <A_J_> ActionParsnip,  okie
[20:09] <Glycan> Er... guys?
[20:09] <nerdshell> ActionParsnip: it's actually in /etc/apt/sources.list.d ;)
[20:09] <constl> Running 11.04 on a Intel Duo @ 2.4 with 4 Gb of RAM, SSD and a GeForce 8400M GS and Gnome is not very responsive. Is this normal for the kind  of laptop spec?
[20:09] <LinuxFetus> penguin42, Linux sees the 3 partitions the windowss computer came with (OS, and two recovery partitions) when Ubuntu 11.04 boots up.  However, when I try to resize the OS partition, make an extended partition and then two partitions - ext4 and swap - and then install Ubuntu, I get a grub error upon restart and booting from the live CD will show that my extended partition is completely gone.
[20:09] <penguin42> constl: Should be fast - you may need to make sure your video drivers are happy
[20:09] <Glycan> Oh, and another thing. I'm pretty sure it boots to the first partion.
[20:10] <A_J_> ActionParsnip, the result will be instantaneous ?
[20:10] <LinuxFetus> penguin42, Additionally, if I only create the two partitions and restart without installing ubuntu and boot again fro mthe live CD, I get a magic number error on the ext4 partition.
[20:10] <axisys> nerdshell: thats the dir.. the otherone is file.. dir is for additional repos
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> A_J: you may need to reboot
[20:10] <penguin42> LinuxFetus: Have you tried doing the partitioning from Windows?
[20:10] <LinuxFetus> penguin42, No.
[20:10] <penguin42> LinuxFetus: The fact that Linux can see the partitions is a good sign I think
[20:10] <stojabreak> How can set to performance mode in my laptop ?
[20:10] <A_J_> ActionParsnip, i will reboot brb
[20:11] <Glycan> Er... guys?
[20:11] <Glycan> Well?
[20:11] <LinuxFetus> penguin42, I know linux cannot resize its own partition from within itself.  Could windows do that?
[20:11] <LinuxFetus> penguin42, Well maybe linux can, but I've never been able to do tha.t
[20:11] <constl> penguin42: System is upgraded and the NVIDIA current drivers are activated although "Additional drivers" util tells that are not currently in use. What can i do?
[20:11] <constl> *updated
[20:11] <nerdshell> axisys: yes, you're right, sorry
[20:11] <axisys> Glycan: while waiting for your answer you may want to post it in ubuntu desktop mailing list
[20:12] <axisys> nerdshell: not at all.. its cool
[20:12] <Glycan> Which is where?
[20:12] <penguin42> LinuxFetus: I think there are tools on Windows but I'm not a windows guy, so just go back a step - remind me what partitions you currently have?
[20:12] <Glycan> Oh, lol, it booted from a cd I forgot was there...
[20:12] <josker> someone got problem when running gnome with last natty  ? sometimes buttons are not responsible, when this happens i must move the windows in order to be able to click the button
[20:12] <penguin42> constl: I use ATI not Nvidia so I'm not used to the drivers - but I suspect that is your problem
[20:12] <LinuxFetus> penguin42, two restore partitions, one windows os partition, one extended partition which has two partitions: an ext4 one and a linux swap one.
[20:12] <Glycan> Also, can someone pm me my question? I really don't want to retype it, and I lost it.
[20:13] <BlouBlou> josker: that may be a compiz problem, I haven't got any problem with gnome
[20:13] <aliisonline> HELLO. Though no replied to my request but still me asking. I am running Ubun 8.04 in multiuser settings. I mean i edited the xorg.conf for two seats. But now i am having some problem. If some how my usb keyboard wire gets disconnected (while me using gnome desktop) then after pluging back the wire i can not use keyboad in gnome till i logout or restart gdm or restart pc. I just want to know that how can i refresh my gdm usb input devices.
[20:13] <penguin42> LinuxFetus: OK - that's your current state?
[20:13] <brian_of_tacoma> ActionParsnip: Ok, I am following this guide again -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240282  When I run "sudo lpadmin -E -p hp5550..." I am getting this error "lpadmin: No such file or directory"  ( i found the printer ... wasn't actually plugged in =D  )
[20:13] <axisys> Glycan: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+desktop+mailing+list
[20:13] <yeats> Glycan: you can probably arrow up in your IRC client to see what you typed
[20:14] <Glycan> No, I can't, my box had to reboot.
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> brian_of_tacoma: install cups-client
[20:14] <malik_> hi all
[20:14] <brian_of_tacoma> its there
[20:14] <DJones> !logs | Glycan Ypou'll be able to find your question & any responses in the channel logs
[20:15] <LinuxFetus> penguin42, No. I didn't recieve a useful reply from anyone here after a few times last night and 2 this morning, so I went ahead and used ms-sys to restore the Windows MBR and started restoring my computer to factory settings.  When that's done, I can try to re-setup the extended parition again.  However, even when those two partitions were setup, the ext4 one had an error, like I described.
[20:15] <brian_of_tacoma> how do I find the folders
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> brian_of_tacoma: that package gives the lpadmin command
[20:15] <aliisonline> I am running Ubun 8.04 in multiuser settings. I mean i edited the xorg.conf for two seats. But now i am having some problem. If some how my usb keyboard wire gets disconnected (while me using gnome desktop) then after pluging back the wire i can not use keyboad in gnome till i logout or restart gdm or restart pc. I just want to know that how can i refresh my gdm usb input devices.
[20:15] <josker> BlouBlou: there is some way to turn it off ?
[20:15] <vooze> Been searching on google for a while now.. and cant find it;; IS THERE any way to change the color of the launcher??
[20:15] <Adyeths> I'm having a problem with Unity. For some reason I can't click on anything in the bar at the top of the screen. Cannot log out. Cannot change sound volume. nothing like that. How would I go about fixing that?
[20:15] <brian_of_tacoma> hmmm hang on
[20:15] <malik_> when i generate a ssh key pair using ssh-keygen the key.pub file contains the hostname of the local machine at the end, does it mean that  only this system will get access using this specific key pair ??
[20:16] <tensorpudding> vooze: what do you mean by the color?
[20:16] <BlouBlou> brian_of_tacoma: if it doesn't exist, make it; mkdir <folder>
[20:16] <penguin42> LinuxFetus: OK, so after you've done this factory restor what will you have - the restore partition and the windows partition?
[20:16] <stojabreak> hi  guys . how can i disable apm-utils in my laptop for performance mode ?;(
[20:16] <BlouBlou> josker: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:16] <Glycan> I take it Ubuntu+1 is what I'm looking for?
[20:16] <tensorpudding> vooze: the color of which part?
[20:16] <tensorpudding> no
[20:16] <vooze> tensorpudding, just want the same color "like backgrond of laucher is black) as my theme
[20:16] <LinuxFetus> penguin42, I'm not sure if windows will resize my OS partition to overwrite the ext4 and swap partitions, or not.
[20:16] <DJones> Glycan: No, #ubuntu
[20:16] <brian_of_tacoma> cups-client is already the newest version.
[20:16] <A_J> ubuntu website is showing down now :|
[20:16] <vooze> damn, i really dont understand why they did not make that option
[20:17] <vooze> or just could let launcher follow the colors of the rest of the theme
[20:17] <aliisonline> I am running Ubun 8.04 in multiuser settings. I mean i edited the xorg.conf for two seats. But now i am having some problem. If some how my usb keyboard wire gets disconnected (while me using gnome desktop) then after pluging back the wire i can not use keyboad in gnome till i logout or restart gdm or restart pc. I just want to know that how can i refresh my gdm usb input devices.
[20:17] <XenithOrb> Hi I have my computer set to not go to sleep at all or do anything when I close the lid - basically to keep it on and running normally all the time. Problem is, after a certain period of the time the wireless card disconnects from the wireless network regardless of the power settings. How do I go about changing this behavior?
[20:17] <A_J> can any1 confirm that ubuntu wiki is down
[20:17] <LinuxFetus> A_J, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ works for me.
[20:17] <vooze> A_J, drop link
[20:17] <BlouBlou> A_J: Try from a proxy, if you can't see from there, it's down
[20:17] <bayar> hi
[20:18] <aliisonline> yes ubuntuwiki is fine
[20:18] <vooze> works here too
[20:18] <A_J> `Did Action part channel ?
[20:18] <Glycan> What time is it? +0?
[20:18] <BlouBlou> Glycan: gmt +o = 19:18 (I think)
[20:18] <bayar> who is here
[20:18] <penguin42> LinuxFetus: Hmm OK; so I'd make one partition change at a time and check it's happy - you might also want to check what dmraid in linux says, I think it should be able to tell you LInux's view of the fake reaid
[20:18] <BlouBlou> +0*
[20:18] <vooze> A_J, * ActionParsnip<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has left #ubuntu
[20:18] <aliisonline> I am running Ubun 8.04 in multiuser settings. I mean i edited the xorg.conf for two seats. But now i am having some problem. If some how my usb keyboard wire gets disconnected (while me using gnome desktop) then after pluging back the wire i can not use keyboad in gnome till i logout or restart gdm or restart pc. I just want to know that how can i refresh my gdm usb input devices.
[20:19] <A_J> Vooze Thank you
[20:19] <tensorpudding> aliisonline: what do you mean by "edited for two seats"
[20:19] <penguin42> aliisonline: Please don't repeat your question so often - if someone could help you they would
[20:19] <LinuxFetus> penguin42, I did make 1 partition change at a time while I was doing that.  But it's still "configuring my desktop."  I suspect it has less than 5 minutes left since I've done this before.
[20:19] <aliisonline> me using 2 vga cards to use both
[20:20] <aliisonline> so edited xorg.conf and gave the IDS for usb devices
[20:20] <Glycan> Oh no! It got cut?
[20:20] <tensorpudding> aliisonline: this probably is not an issue with xorg
[20:20] <Glycan> !
[20:20] <LinuxFetus> penguin42, I have heard of the dmraid package.  What exactly do you mean to check what it says?  Read the documentation online or something?
[20:20] <aliisonline> yes it is the problem with gdm
[20:20] <penguin42> LinuxFetus: There is a command dmraid and I think it can tell you about the configuration of fake raid
[20:20] <aliisonline> i mean when i again plug back usb keyboard
[20:20] <aliisonline> i can switch to different tty screens
[20:21] <aliisonline> but in gdm environment i can't use keyboard
[20:21] <Captainkrtek> Hey all the new Ubuntu users out there, if you have time fill out this survey! http://bit.ly/lZk5xw
[20:21] <Glycan> If anyone comes up with anything, PM me, so that I get it. I hav e to go some quick stuff, but please, I really need to get this working as fast a possible, so if you think of anything, PM me.
[20:21] <tensorpudding> aliisonline: this sounds like a bug, but i'm not sure
[20:22] <BlouBlou> Captainkrtek: you may want to talk in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:22] <brian_of_tacoma> BlouBlou: the problem is that /usr/share/ppd/cups-included/ only includes 2 files and doesn't include the HP directory in the command listed.
[20:22] <brian_of_tacoma> sudo lpadmin -E -p hp5550 -v usb://hp/deskjet%205550?serial=MY25K1K0TC2L -P /usr/share/ppd/cups-included/HP/deskjet.ppd -u allow:all
[20:22] <Captainkrtek> BlouBlou, just trying to get some feedback for the ubuntu advertising team
[20:22] <S4RY> Glycan , i got some of your posts.
[20:22] <aliisonline> my default short cut key to swiich tty screens is CTRL+ALT+F# but after plugging back my usb keyboard it becomes ALT+F#
[20:23] <Adyeths> Upgraded to 11.04 and now I'm having a problem with Unity. For some reason I can't click on anything in the bar at the top of the screen. Cannot log out. Cannot change sound volume. nothing like that. How would I go about fixing that?
[20:23] <LinuxFetus> penguin42, Yes, it looks like Windows removed the extended partition because the C:\ drive is 1.35 TB again.
[20:23] <LjL> Captainkrtek: surveys, poll etc are not allowed on this channel. i'm sure you mean the best, but #ubuntu-offtopic is the appropriate place
[20:23] <BlouBlou> Adyeths: Are you using nvidia geforce fx?
[20:23] <Captainkrtek> sorry LjL
[20:23] <LinuxFetus> penguin42, Did you want me to "man dmraid"
[20:23] <kneaux> goddag.
[20:23] <S4RY> Glycan /query
[20:24] <Tomfoolery> hey, can someone help me, I'm using gtkpod and my ipod has suddenly become read only
[20:24] <BlouBlou> Adyeths: give me the model of you graphic card please
[20:24] <Tomfoolery> I have no idea how to fix it. I'm a real noob with ubuntu as well =/
[20:24] <kneaux> Anybody running 11.04 with ATi?
[20:24] <Adyeths> its an nvidia gforce 6150le
[20:24] <aliisonline> Hello any1 can point that how to refresh gdm usb devices
[20:25] <stojabreak> kneaux
[20:25] <stojabreak> im
[20:25] <allu2> by the way killiling aptitude at install with control c made it seg fault and renders rest of install un doable
[20:25] <BlouBlou> Adyeths: Go to aditional-drivers, which driver do you have installed? Appears something like "it's installed but not in use"?
[20:25] <stojabreak> running Ati radeom mobility 5730hd in asus laptopt and Natty
[20:26] <gsr> anyone else having this problem: updated to 11.04 (ended up doing a clean install from CD).  In both unity and gnome2, there are times where I get "stuck" in a focused window, and can't move to any other window.
[20:26] <brian_of_tacoma> BlouBlou: there are only 2 files in /usr/share/ppd/cups-included/     postscript.ppd   &textonly.ppd
[20:26] <kneaux> stojabreak: I'm having this horrible (drawing order?) problem with e.g. Google Earth, Stellarium, Flash, know what I'm talking about?
[20:26] <Adyeths> ok, it says its activated but not currently in use.
[20:26] <igordcard> does anybody here uses a C6000 Samsung TV series on Linux?
[20:26] <BlouBlou> Adyeths: heh, I know how to fix it :)
[20:27] <kneaux> stojabreak: flickery windows that keep drawing in the foreground even if there's windows in front of them
[20:27] <BlouBlou> Adyeths: You have to unistall that driver, restar computer, install *experimental* ones, and reinstall again :)
[20:27] <Adyeths> wonderful. I'd love to know how to fix it. :)
[20:27] <BlouBlou> experimental = free drivers
[20:27] <stojabreak> yes ! im too , with drivers you are currently use ?
[20:27] <BlouBlou> Adyeths: I had this problem too
[20:27] <angelic> One more problem... I have got the wifi working (I installed its driver now that I've found it) but.. for some reason I don't see the "power" icon in the taskbar.
[20:28] <Adyeths> thanks!
[20:28] <axisys> Captainkrtek: done
[20:28] <aliisonline> Hello can any1  point that how to refresh gdm usb devices
[20:28] <BlouBlou> Adyeths: you're welcome!
[20:28] <Captainkrtek> axisys, thanks!
[20:29] <angelic> Captainkrtek: Hey, man think you can help me with one small issue for abit?
[20:29] <Captainkrtek> angelic, sure thing
[20:30] <aliisonline> Hello can any1 point that how to refresh gdm usb devices
[20:30] <angelic> Captainkrtek: Well, for some reason I don't see the power icon in gnome.. I have no idea why. I can't see if its running off of power or battery(icon)
[20:30] <BlouBlou> aliisonline: what do you mean by gdm usb devices?
[20:30] <BlouBlou> brian_of_tacoma: I have no idea, sorry :(
[20:30] <Captainkrtek> angelic, hmm hold on let me tinker around
[20:30] <brian_of_tacoma> Ok, here is my exact issue: The guide I am using (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240282) calls for running a command    "sudo lpadmin -E -p hp5550 -v usb://hp/deskjet%205550?serial=MY25K1K0TC2L -P /usr/share/ppd/cups-included/HP/deskjet.ppd -u allow:all" ... but there's no HP directory there
[20:31] <brian_of_tacoma> there are only 2 .ppd files there
[20:31] <stravant> Can anyone else not build Gtk+ code on natty? I get "undefined reference to `g_source_set_time` building an empty main function that includes gtk.h
[20:31] <aliisonline> my i gave the IDS for usb input devices in xorg.conf to use in multiseat environment
[20:31] <BlouBlou> brian_of_tacoma: Then create there with "mkdir <directory>" and run the command again, doesn't it work?
[20:32] <brian_of_tacoma> but there is also no .ppd file in that dir
[20:32] <Captainkrtek> angelic, try installing it from here https://live.gnome.org/BatteryStatus
[20:32] <brian_of_tacoma> do I create that too?
[20:32] <Captainkrtek> angelic, there are instructions if you scroll down a little
[20:32] <BlouBlou> brian_of_tacoma: no, that only works with folders
[20:32] <brian_of_tacoma> what is a ppd file?
[20:33] <brian_of_tacoma> can i DL it from somewhere
[20:33] <SomeShmo> How come BitchX isn't in the repositories and how do I get?
[20:33] <angelic> Captainkrtek: Odd thing is though when I unplug the AC, the battery icon appears but when I plug the AC back in, it disappears.. it doesn't show the socket image
[20:34] <BlouBlou> brian_of_tacoma: PPD = "PostScript Printer Description"
[20:34] <axisys> angelic: power management
[20:34] <dios_mio> SomeShmo, efnet #bitchx /topic has a link
[20:34] <Captainkrtek> angelic, odd
[20:34] <XenithOrb> Hi I have my computer set to not go to sleep at all or do anything when I close the lid - basically to keep it on and running normally all the time. Problem is, after a certain period of the time the wireless card disconnects from the wireless network regardless of the power settings. How do I go about changing this behavior?
[20:34] <axisys> angelic: default behavior
[20:34] <dios_mio> SomeShmo, irssi is in the repository btw
[20:34] <Seveas> !bitchx
[20:34] <brian_of_tacoma> how do I get one of those for the printer I have?
[20:34] <angelic> axisys: What do you mean?
[20:34] <Seveas> SomeShmo, it's dropped because it's an unsafe and unsecure piece of sh^Hoftware
[20:34] <axisys> angelic: go to Power Management
[20:35] <axisys> angelic: then look in the General tab
[20:35] <SomeShmo> Ah...
[20:35] <SomeShmo> THanks....
[20:35] <axisys> angelic: that is the default behavior
[20:35] <SomeShmo> irssi is safe?
[20:35] <axisys> SomeShmo: yes
[20:35] <BlouBlou> SomeShmo: it is, I'm using it right now
[20:35] <SomeShmo> Cool, thanks.
[20:36] <axisys> SomeShmo: you can get tons of help from #irssi
[20:36] <angelic> axisys: OH, I see it.
[20:36] <Manu_> Hello Ubuntu irc people. Have you any note for audio problems with Natty Narwhal / Lenovo X60 / latest update audio problem?
[20:36] <Glycan> query/?
[20:37] <llutz> brian_of_tacoma:  according http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-DeskJet_5550 your printer should work fine using hplip, do you have that installed?
[20:37] <brian_of_tacoma> no ... i have no GUI
[20:37] <Glycan> What's query?
[20:37] <angelic> axisys: thanks
[20:37] <axisys> angelic: np
[20:37] <brian_of_tacoma> its Ubuntu server
[20:37] <angelic> Captainkrtek: thanks as well.
[20:37] <BlouBlou> Manu_: works fine for me. Anyways, do you have alsa or pulseaudio (whatever ubuntu uses) correctly installed?
[20:37] <Glycan> Oh, I get it.
[20:37] <Glycan> Who wanted itm already?
[20:38] <pure-anon-monk> hey all
[20:38] <brian_of_tacoma> this is so crazy ... just want to plug in a printer ... do I need to install a GUI just for that?
[20:38] <abstrakt> how do I know what subnet to use? primarily I'm talking about e.g. <IP_ADDRESS> in this context http://www.openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/miscellaneous/78-static-key-mini-howto.html there's <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> right, so if my LAN is on <IP_ADDRESS> then should I use that for my VPN config? does it matter?  like, if my LAN is on 176 and I use this config http://www.openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/mi
[20:38] <abstrakt> scellaneous/78-static-key-mini-howto.html will there be conflicts?  I mean, will I need to set up a bridge on my localhost as well so that i can bridge my 176 network over to <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[20:38] <FloodBot1> abstrakt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:38] <Manu_> BlouBlou: Yes I have. Audio was working fine before the update. Maybe the problem is that I have the trial repository enabled?
[20:38] <abstrakt> basically: how do I choose what subnet/ip to use?
[20:38] <abstrakt> lol, to flood or to use enter, that is the question, apparently :P
[20:39] <frigo> quit
[20:39] <brian_of_tacoma> llutz:  hplip requires a GUI to find my printer ...
[20:39] <BlouBlou> Manu_: I don't think so
[20:39] <llutz> brian_of_tacoma: hp-setup -i
[20:39] <aliisonline> My usb devices are configured in XORG.CONF to be used in at two different seats. but if my usb keyboard gets disconnected i can not use it in gnome gdm environment. though i can use only ALT+F# to switch tty# screens. i can get back my usb input device by logging off or restarting gdm or by restarting pc. i hope that there would be some command so i can use that to refresh my gdm usb devices.
[20:39] <Manu_> BlouBlou: update installed alsa 1.0.24 today and I lost all audio playback. Recording is still working.
[20:40] <BlouBlou> Manu_: Then go to Synaptic >> Force the older version and reinstall it
[20:40] <aliisonline> My usb devices are configured in XORG.CONF to be used in at two different seats. but if my usb keyboard gets disconnected i can not use it in gnome gdm environment. though i can use only ALT+F# to switch tty# screens. i can get back my usb input device by logging off or restarting gdm or by restarting pc. i hope that there would be some command so i can use that to refresh my gdm usb devices
[20:40] <BlouBlou> !repeat | aliisonline
[20:40] <brian_of_tacoma> TY!
[20:41] <Manu_> BlouBlou: I tried that but for some reason the force version in the menu is grayed out.
[20:41] <llutz> brian_of_tacoma: you's start reading man-pages
[20:41] <abstrakt> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN#Setting up the Bridge
[20:41] <aliisonline> sorry actually this is my first time to an irc  channel and i can't understand that how U all people r reading all this so quickly
[20:41] <brian_of_tacoma> ug!  But I only speak English!
[20:41] <perlmonkey2> Anyone running 11.04 on a new macbook pro? I was wondering how the trackpad worked. If two finger scrolling and two finger clicking worked.
[20:41] <abstrakt> they chose the 192.168 subnet ^
[20:41] <stravant> How do I compile gtk+ code on natty? Even a hello-world application yields several linker errors including "/usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so: undefined reference to `g_source_get_time'"
[20:41] <brian_of_tacoma> not man
[20:41] <BlouBlou> Manu_: did you try moving to pulseaudio?
[20:41] <abstrakt> they > http://www.openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/miscellaneous/78-static-key-mini-howto.html chose the <IP_ADDRESS> subnet
[20:42] <aliisonline> so me thought that i shout ask quickly so my question will get prominent. Really sorry
[20:42] <abstrakt> but this choice is not actually explained
[20:42] <Manu_> BlouBlou: *noob* No, I actually do not know how to swap the audio system in Ubuntu.
[20:42] <BlouBlou> !pulseaudio
[20:43] <BlouBlou> Manu_: ^
[20:43] <Manu_> Thanks. I will try that.
[20:43] <tensorpudding> perlmonkey2: two-finger scrolling is supported on other machines in Ubuntu, so I don't know why it wouldn't
[20:44] <lder> i upgrade to natty and my wifi didn't work until i did "modprobe b43"... i removed it from the blacklist but it still doesn't start automatically.  how do i get the b43 module to run automatically?
[20:44] <Sub_Zero> How long does updating from 10.10 to 11.04 take? Figuring out what will be the best time to do this?
[20:44] <desg_xd> how do i force quit my firefox process?
[20:45] <BlouBlou> Sub_Zero: downloading = 15 - 30 mins      |    installing = 30-60 mins
[20:45] <Sub_Zero> desg_xd via terminal. killall firefox
[20:45] <llutz> desg_xd: pkill firefox
[20:45] <desg_xd> thanks
[20:45] <BlouBlou> llutz: isn't better killall firefox?
[20:45] <llutz> BlouBlou: why?
[20:45] <perlmonkey2> tensorpudding: sweet. mac makes it easy to try out Ubuntu before I blow away OSX completely. I'll have to give it a go :)
[20:46] <BlouBlou> llutz: I don't know the difference between pkill and killall, meh
[20:46] <trism> stravant: use pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0; should get all the stuff you need
[20:46] <lder> i'll try /etc/modules
[20:47] <perlmonkey2> tensorpudding: I didn't know about the two finger thing at all. I'll have to set that up on all my ubuntu machines. Sweet :)
[20:47] <tensorpudding> perlmonkey2: it might not be wise to completely remove OSX if you don't have a way to put it back
[20:47] <stravant> trism: I'm allready doing that> The compiler / linker wouldn't be able to find anything at all if I weren't.
[20:47] <tensorpudding> perlmonkey2: it's only certain hardware that supports it
[20:47] <tensorpudding> perlmonkey2: i think
[20:47] <darkorical> I have a folder that is shared via samba and has new folders created in it by other applications (mostly Transmission) is there a way to set it to force all new folders/files created in it to 0777 ?
[20:47] <tensorpudding> i know that windows supports it on some machines but not others
[20:48] <stravant> trism: I also tried pkg config in the command ling and it is giving the expected output (just included the libs here): -pthread -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgio-2.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lcairo -lpango-1.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lrt -lglib-2.0
[20:48] <brian_of_tacoma> Is there a guide on how to read man pages?  They are so confusing and unhelpful for learning Linux
[20:48] <abstrakt> tensorpudding, "windows supports Mac on some machines" ... ?
[20:48] <llutz> darkorical: "create mask = 0777" in smb.conf
[20:48] <abstrakt> that, er... doesn't really make sense
[20:49] <kjxl9> brian use man man
[20:49] <abstrakt> brian_of_tacoma, lol actually there is i'm sure
[20:49] <tensorpudding> abstrakt: no, two-finger scroll
[20:49] <darkorical> .. you mean  man man brian....?
[20:49] <kjxl9> the command is "man man"
[20:49] <kleopatra> Hello, i have a dvd in my drive, how can i find out whats its /dev-address? mount says sr0 is unknow
[20:49] <abstrakt> brian_of_tacoma, the real problem with man pages is that they are usually not logically organized and there's no table of contents
[20:49] <stravant> trism: Any idea what could be going on given the conditions?
[20:49] <llutz> darkorical: err* "create mask = 0000" in smb.conf
[20:49] <abstrakt> brian_of_tacoma, otherwise man pages are usually fairly useful, but there's also usually a limited amount of use, reading man pages is an art - really about the only thing you can do is just read more man pages
[20:50] <abstrakt> brian_of_tacoma, but you must also remember that man pages aren't generally a subsitute for Knowing What You're Doing (TM)
[20:50] <kjxl9> how do i remove a user from terminal?
[20:50] <wmdvanzyl> man pages taught me massive amounts
[20:50] <abstrakt> kjxl9, man deluser
[20:50] <perlmonkey2> tensorpudding: good point. I can just shrink it's partition to a 20GB or so. Keep it around in case I need it for some reason. Just hate dealing with dual boots and Ubuntu was so much more useful than OSX. Not that OSX is bad. Ubuntu (and even Fedora) were just better.
[20:50] <brian_of_tacoma> and they just start listing off facts and attributes about a command without general explanations for understanding
[20:50] <wmdvanzyl> had to learn linux at varsity for computer science degree
[20:50] <MagusOTB> So apparently when you ask banshee to import a library of roughly 100,000 songs, it crashes spectacularly and begins blasting metal.
[20:51] <wmdvanzyl> no help - u just had to get it done
[20:51] <abstrakt> brian_of_tacoma, right, that's what I just said
[20:51] <wmdvanzyl> man pages are useful
[20:51] <abstrakt> brian_of_tacoma, if you need a tutorial, then google
[20:51] <brian_of_tacoma> im a slow typer
[20:51] <trism> stravant: is it short? can you pastebin the source file?
[20:51] <abstrakt> brian_of_tacoma, sooo, practice and get faster?
[20:51] <llutz> brian_of_tacoma: they give you basic info, so you can use other sources to get a deeper understanding (google, whatever)
[20:51] <abstrakt> brian_of_tacoma, http://google.com/search?q=mavis+beacon
[20:51] <brian_of_tacoma> just began learning Dvorak
[20:52] <abstrakt> brian_of_tacoma, waste of time, but ok
[20:52] <MagusOTB> does anybody know of a media player other than MPD that doesn't melt when presented with HUGE libraries?
[20:52] <pure-anon-monk> vlc ?
[20:52] <kleopatra> How can i find out what /dev my dvd-drive is?
[20:52] <abstrakt> brian_of_tacoma, the speed gains of dvorak aren't worth it compared to the hassle of living with DVORAK in a QWERTY world
[20:52] <MagusOTB> pure-anon-monk: No, like, with library management and searching and such
[20:52] <MagusOTB> like what banshee is supposed to do, but apparently can't.
[20:52] <abstrakt> kleopatra, it's likely to be /dev/cdrom
[20:52] <brian_of_tacoma> You tried it?
[20:52] <abstrakt> kleopatra, ls -l /dev/cdrom
[20:52] <frigo> quit
[20:52] <aveesh> hi----can someone help me  configure networking in ubuntu 11.04 - am a windows user but not a noob....just unfamiliar...
[20:52] <brian_of_tacoma> or that's just your thought?
[20:52] <abstrakt> brian_of_tacoma, yes - it's not worth it
[20:53] <MagusOTB> brian_of_tacoma: Banshee? Yes. I just said it crashed and started blasing metal until I xkill'd it.
[20:53] <pure-anon-monk> not sure am just about to call my mate  ill ask him if he answers
[20:53] <wmdvanzyl> brian_of_tecoma - its general proven
[20:53] <MagusOTB> *blasting
[20:53] <aveesh> and this is my first tim to irc....whoa it is fast....
[20:53] <wmdvanzyl> brian_of_tocoma, abstrakt is right
[20:53] <MagusOTB> which is a little strange because I generally don't lsiten to metal
[20:53] <BlouBlou> aveesh: that's because it's plain text :)
[20:53] <kleopatra> cdrom1 it is =)
[20:53] <MagusOTB> aveesh: This channel is.
[20:53] <stravant> trism: http://pastebin.com/tuGD5fNE
[20:54] <wmdvanzyl> many conversations == fast reading
[20:54] <gsr> anyone else having this problem: updated to 11.04 (ended up doing a clean install from CD).  In both unity and gnome2, there are times where I get "stuck" in a focused window, and can't move to any other window.
[20:54] <aveesh> gotta go....
[20:54] <stravant> trism: I'll try building it with the command line to make sure eclipse isn't doing something funny while you look at that
[20:54] <aveesh> sorry
[20:54] <nelson__> holaa
[20:54] <BlouBlou> !bye | aveesh
[20:55] <BlouBlou> nelson__: english here please
[20:55] <trism> stravant: it doesn't look like eclipse is expanding the pkg-config line
[20:56] <perlmonkey2> When creating the usb install disk on a Mac the Ubuntu instructions say to run this: hdiutil convert -format UDRW -o but the -o flag is invalid for that app. Anyone know what it is supposed to be?
[20:56] <stravant> That's just the way it does output, I'm sure it is expanding it or else it would simply stop at not finding gtk/gtk.h
[20:56] <aliisonline> My usb devices are configured in XORG.CONF to be used in at two different seats. but if my usb keyboard gets disconnected i can not use it in gnome gdm environment. though i can use only ALT+F# to switch tty# screens. i can get back my usb input device by logging off or restarting gdm or by restarting pc. i hope that there would be some command so i can use that to refresh my gdm usb devices
[20:56] <wmdvanzyl> goodbye
[20:56] <stravant> trism: one sec while I compile it at the command line
[20:57] <tase> So I just restarted ubuntu 11.04 and I got 4 "enter password for keyring", then a wifi passphrase prompt, wtf is up with 11.04, doesn't it remember wifi settings, this isn't a live cd
[20:57] <BlouBlou> tase: ubuntu has currently problems with wifis n
[20:57] <tase> im switching from ubuntu classic and ubuntu unity wm too
[20:57] <BlouBlou> tase: I'm using an old wifi g because newest ones seems too fail
[20:58] <BlouBlou> s/too/to
[20:58] <tase> its got nothing to do with actually connecting
[20:58] <stravant> trism: Yup, it's not a problem with eclipse, exact same error from the command line
[20:58] <tase> I dont want to input my password every time I restart ubuntu
[20:58] <tase> and before the restart all my windows had no title bar / decoration, just bare borderless panels
[20:59] <tase> and browsing on firefox on 11.04 is extremely slow, as opposed to a firefox 4.0 o windows 7 right next to it
[20:59] <BlouBlou> tase: I think you can't disable it, it's not wifi passwword, it's your password-unlocker password :P
[20:59] <tase> no it asked for the password in the wifi
[20:59] <koperino> needed libqt4-xmlpatterns but it won't be installed says synaptic........Help i want to install Mixxx and amarok??
[20:59] <BlouBlou> tase: interesting...
[20:59] <tase> WPA/WPA2 drop box and passphrase prompt
[20:59] <brandon_> Hey guys.
[20:59] <stravant> trism: And anyways, doesn't "/usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so: undefined reference to `g_source_get_time'" mean that it did find the file in question but it's missing a symbol?
[20:59] <BlouBlou> tase: try disabling wifi password and setting mac filter then
[21:00] <tase> uh, right
[21:00] <tase> like im going to do that for ubuntu
[21:00] <aliisonline> My usb devices are configured in XORG.CONF to be used in at two different seats. but if my usb keyboard gets disconnected i can not use it in gnome gdm environment. though i can use only ALT+F# to switch tty# screens. i can get back my usb input device by logging off or restarting gdm or by restarting pc. i hope that there would be some command so i can use that to refresh my gdm usb devices
[21:00] <brandon_> Anyone here using thunderbird miramir?
[21:00] <trism> stravant: g_source_get_time is from libglib2.0-dev, it is possible you are missing that, although the gtk deps should pull it in
[21:00] <abstrakt> gsr, this is why I'm not going to move to 11.04 :)
[21:00] <abstrakt> gsr, sticking on 10.10 for a while
[21:00] <darkorical> llutz: I tried create mask  ="0000" and 0777 as well as both for direcotry mask and new folders created by transmission still come up 0755
[21:01] <zertyu> hello there i got ubuntu web server
[21:01] <BlouBlou> abstrakt: wait for a month or so, so most of problems/issues will be fixed :)
[21:01] <AndrewEMT> Question... I am having trouble installing programs into Wine that have multiple CDs or DVDs to the program... The first cd gets recognized by when it asks for the second CD or DVD Ubuntu seems to not recognize that there is a CD in the drive... this happen on PlayOnLinux and Gametree (Cedega)... so am I in the right place or should I go talk to the wine guys?
[21:01] <abstrakt> BlouBlou, right, well at least that :)
[21:01] <brandon_> Go talk to Wine.
[21:01] <abstrakt> i'll probably migrate to 11.04 when 11.10 comes out :)
[21:01] <BlouBlou> abstrakt: /join #winehq :)
[21:01] <brandon_> Anyone here using miramir alpha?
[21:01] <tase> are settings not remembered between Ubuntu and Ubuntu Classic workspaces, or are they corrupted, is 11.04 a stable release or its a beta 4
[21:02] <BlouBlou> abstrakt: Then you may want LTS versions :P
[21:02] <stravant> trism:pkg-config --libs gtk+-2.0
[21:02] <stravant> -pthread -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgio-2.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lcairo -lpango-1.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lrt -lglib-2.0
[21:02] <stravant> trism: It isn't there, should it be?
[21:02] <FloodBot1> stravant: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:02] <abstrakt> BlouBlou, um... 11.04 is LTS isn't it?
[21:02] <BlouBlou> tase: it's stable release
[21:02] <D3luSi0n4L> Hey all
[21:02] <BlouBlou> abstrakt: no, it was 10.04
[21:02] <D3luSi0n4L> Anyone mind helping me for a min
[21:02] <troulouliou> hi is thre a tuto or official guide to switch from debian to ubuntu (and get back most of the pacages)
[21:02] <zertyu> i setup apache i upload my web file on my webroot folder, the page not display at all i got a blank page, where the error come from ?
[21:02] <gsr> abstrakt: yeah, the new ATI non-free drivers stink, flash (free and non-free) both take up 100% CPU, the whole window stuck thing, and unity is like gnome - minus most of the features that convinced me to leave KDE/XFCE.
[21:02] <BlouBlou> abstrakt: was, and is
[21:02] <trism> stravant: it is there at the end -lglib-2.0, the question is, is libglib2.0-dev installed?
[21:02] <abstrakt> BlouBlou, oh... hmm, so what's th next LTS?
[21:02] <D3luSi0n4L> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 11.04 alongside Windows 7 and having some issues
[21:02] <brandon_> This is nothing but spam. lol
[21:02] <BlouBlou> abstrakt: 12.04
[21:03] <abstrakt> gsr, you needed to be convinced to leave KDE? lol
[21:03] <abstrakt> KDE is teh suxors, i could have told ya that :P
[21:03] <AndrewEMT> Anyone able to help me or should I go to the Wine guys?
[21:03] <gsr> abstrakt: used it since I was 13 (over a decade ago), was very used to it.
[21:03] <globee> I stay away from the latest releases until all the bugs are worked out.
[21:03] <BlouBlou> AndrewEMT: if it's wine-releated problem, join in #winehq
[21:03] <ssasss> helloo
[21:03] <abstrakt> XFCE isn't too bad, but by the time you add all the features to get it up to par with the features of GNOME, XFCE is then just as slow as GNOME
[21:03] <abstrakt> so, might as well use GNOME
[21:03] <stravant> trism: Yea, it's there
[21:03] <ssasss> i need help
[21:03] <BlouBlou> ssasss: what's up?
[21:03] <gsr> is there a "do-release-downgrade" function :P?
[21:04] <abstrakt> gsr, ahh, you were a "pimpin" kid I bet, suckered by all the fancy graphics :)
[21:04] <BlouBlou> !downgrade | gsr
[21:04] <abstrakt> gsr, yeah, sudo rm -rf /*
[21:04] <AndrewEMT> Its not just wine... its any type of compatibility layer like that... as I said, its not just wine... but I will go there. I thought it could be an Ubuntu bug...
[21:04] <D3luSi0n4L> Anyone help me, while trying to install ubuntu alongside win7, it was saying "no root something"
[21:04] <abstrakt> gsr, and then install fresh with 10.10
[21:04] <BlouBlou> abstrakt: meh :P
[21:04] <gsr> abstrakt: yeah, and remove my home directory as well :P
[21:05] <soreau> Is there an easy way to build the kernel into deb packages?
[21:05] <abstrakt> gsr, of course not
[21:05] <ssasss> need help meep
[21:05] <ssasss> p
[21:05] <abstrakt> gsr, because obviously you've got that on a separate partition right?
[21:05] <gsr> yeah
[21:05] <trism> stravant: is the source file short? something you could pastebin so I could try to reproduce it?
[21:05] <BlouBlou> ssasss: Ask your question
[21:05] <D3luSi0n4L> Oh do i need a swap partition to install linux to?
[21:05] <D3luSi0n4L> my mistake not to install linux to but to use while installing linux*
[21:05] <Dr_Willis> D3luSi0n4L:  Ubuntu wull use one if its theres.
[21:05] <stravant> trism: The source file is just #include <gtk/gtk.h> int main() {return 0;}
[21:05] <llutz> soreau: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[21:05] <ssasss> my question can sb help me
[21:06] <D3luSi0n4L> Dr_Willis: well while installing ubuntu, I was getting "No root file system"
[21:06] <trism> stravant: ahh, then I can't, it compiles fine here, you must be missing some libraries
[21:06] <Dr_Willis> D3luSi0n4L:  you proberly want to make one. reguardless of your ram.  If its a laptop and you want to hibernate make it at least ram
[21:06] <D3luSi0n4L> Dr_Willis: no matter what i tried
[21:06] <gnagno_> hello all
[21:06] <Dr_Willis> D3luSi0n4L:  thats not a swap issue..  something else is going on
[21:06] <soreau> llua: I said an easy way :P
[21:06] <gnagno_> I am having an issue on my notebook after updating to natty
[21:06] <leftist> wow this new release of ubuntu is horrible.
[21:06] <zertyu> hello everyone
[21:06] <soreau> llutz: I said an easy way
[21:06] <llua> :x
[21:06] <D3luSi0n4L> Dr_Willis: mind if i pm you, maybe you can help me?
[21:06] <ssasss> i have an qu
[21:06] <leftist> i have been using ubuntu since 5.x and man this is dreadful
[21:07] <ssasss> question
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> D3luSi0n4L:  about ready to go to bed.
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> leftist:  demand a refund perhaps.. do you have a support issue/question?
[21:07] <D3luSi0n4L> Dr_Willis: alright thanks anyways, anyone else got a could mins to help?
[21:07] <stravant> trism: How do I look at the symbol contents of a lib? libgtk-x11-2.0.a/so is on the system where it should be
[21:07] <gnagno_> my left mouse button get stuck and I can't click anywhere after updating to natty, can someone please help me? my netbook is unusable :(
[21:08] <koperino> I can't install amarok and mixxx due to same rapport
[21:08] <stravant> trism: I assume all the files are there, shouldn't I get a linker error if they can't be found?
[21:08] <brian_of_tacoma> So about 30 mins ago I ran hp-setup -i and it has had a spinning / prompt after coming to "Information".  Should I kill it?
[21:08] <leftist> dr_willis i have a right as a developer to make my feelings known. i just dont understand who was the final decision on this horrific configuration as ubuntu is the premier os on the street. this rel has the potential to run people away.
[21:08] <Rivkah> Alright..Well, was hoping somebody here could answer this: How is cross-platform programming on Ubuntu? I am currently toying/testing 11.04 x64
[21:08] <VampiricPadraig> Sorry about the in and outs
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> leftist:  this is not the proper channel for it. and you are basically ranting. take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:09] <leftist> not ranting just speaking the truth but yeah  i will go there and "rant" as you so referred. cya
[21:10] <trism> stravant: you are getting a linker error, it can't find the glib symbols for some reason
[21:10] <Rivkah> [Reposting incase somebody missed] Alright..Well, was hoping somebody here could answer this: How is cross-platform programming on Ubuntu? I am currently toying/testing 11.04 x64
[21:11] <stravant> trism: How can I check if the symbols actually exist in the lib?
[21:12] <leftist> is there anyway you can backout an upgrade?
[21:12] <llutz> stravant: nm <libname>
[21:12] <Dr_Willis> !downgrade
[21:12] <leftist> yeah
[21:12] <leftist> ok thank god i did it on a laptop that was not in production. back to 10.10 for us. peace.
[21:13] <zertyu> hello there
[21:13] <Guest30745> Sorry for an off topic question but what command allows you to see all rooms on the irc server
[21:14] <gunknown> i am trying to install vlc 1.1.5 in ubuntu 10.10 via ppa (ppa:n-muench/vlc). But after installing it is still version 1.1.4. Anyone any idea? I also completely reinstalled vlc ...
[21:15] <gunknown> and which vlc version is in buntu 11.04?
[21:15] <dusf> will gparted allow me to move partitions around while logged into ubuntu?
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> dusf:  not i  use ones
[21:15] <stravant> trism: Is it looking as libgtk-x11-2.0.so instead of the .a file a problem?
[21:16] <perlmonkey2> where can I find the hash for the i386 desktop download?
[21:16] <stravant> trism: Because nm doesn't show any symbols for the .so, but the .a does contain the symbols I need
[21:16] <trism> stravant: no, the so references functions from libgio-2.0.a but it isn't finding it for some reason
[21:17] <dusf> Dr_Willis: what would happen if i tried to reduce the size of my home parition while logged in?
[21:17] <stravant> Should there be the symbols in the .so?nm with the .os gives me "no symbols in here"
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> dusf:  it wont let you do that..
[21:17] <gunknown> where can i see the package versions for ubuntu 11.04?
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> dusf:  i always do such tasks with a live cd. so all filesystems are not mounted
[21:18] <perlmonkey2> Are these correct? if so I got a bad download: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> dusf:  such tasks can take a VERY long time als9o
[21:18] <tase> do I need Samba to connect to a windows share ?
[21:18] <stravant> trism: When you use "nm /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so" does it give you the symbols, or "no symbols" like on mine?
[21:19] <llutz> tase: nope, smbclient you need
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> tase:  I think gnome file manager can connect to windows without it.. but windoes cant connect to ubuntu without it
[21:19] <andre_pl_> I was running gnome-shell up until this morning, I did some updates, and now I have an extra 'dock' which appears to be unity running at the same time as gnome-shell
[21:19] <andre_pl_> but I can't find the executible or tell what it is exactly
[21:19] <andre_pl_> whats the executible file for unity's dock?
[21:19] <tase> I'm trying to connect to a windows share and it doesn't work, says it can't mount it or something
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> tase:  can you ping the ip# of the windows box?
[21:20] <tase> yea it's in LAN; it works now, didn't work from Ubuntu Classic desktop for some reason