[07:26] <Lynx-> are there any usplash themes for Ubuntu like the theme that was included in Dapper and earlier? I want to see not only the Ubuntu logo and progress bar, but also some lines like "Starting http server... [ok] "
[07:26] <rogue780> RainCT, ardchoille, I thought it did...I might be mistaken
[07:26] <genii> orangey: I can't seem to find much else right now :(
[07:26] <rogue780> wouldn't be the first time
[07:26] <ardchoille> slippyr4: gksudo gdmsetup
[07:26] <gopp> !gmediaserver
[07:26] <ubotu> gmediaserver: UPnP Mediaserver. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.0-1 (edgy), package size 94 kB, installed size 288 kB
[07:31] <Ayabara> can anyone recommend a nice gnome theme?
[07:31] <RainCT> ardchoille, rogue780: with what language should that plugin be done? could I do it with Python?
[07:31] <faceface> can anyone tell me *all* the network configuration files in ubuntu?
[07:31] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight,: now another option is asking. "free cluster summery uninitailzed (should be 510716" option1 'Set It" optin2 "Leave it Uninitailzed" Which one is for me?
[07:31] <orangey> genii: Thank you very much!
[07:31] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, option 1, i think
[07:31] <xtknight> faceface, sorry not sure
[07:31] <rogue780> RainCT, you should be able to use pythoin
[07:31] <faceface> cheers xtknight
[07:31] <genii> orangey: np
[07:31] <active> any one help?
[07:31] <eth01> Ayabara: use fluxbox lol ;p
[07:31] <wolferine> yeah, how is fluxbox?
[07:31] <orangey> genii: I'm similarly searching, and it seems nothing replaces that disk-manager
[07:31] <wolferine> for those that have used it?
[07:31] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : check ur pm
[07:31] <slippyr4> ardchoille, tried that, same error, although not (in the console) it says jon is not in the sudoers file
[07:31] <orangey> genii: how is it unmaintained? Does that mean it doesn't compile? or has major bugs?
[07:31] <eth01> wolferine: its ok... could be better nut ok lol
[07:31] <eth01> but *
[07:31] <ardchoille> slippyr4: Ah, you aren't in the sudoers file.. which means you can't sudo, that is the underlying reason it didn't work.
[07:31] <Ayabara> eth01, :-)
[07:31] <AtypicalChuck> I recently switched from XP to Ubuntu on my laptop and I have noticed that my 3D graphics performance have gone way, way down. Does anyone have any idea what might be wrong?
[07:31] <totalwormage> hello all
[07:31] <faceface> anybody know if I use network manager do I need to use wpa_supplicant?
[07:31] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : its not going to fix it or unchanged it:<
[07:31] <RainCT> rogue780, ardchoille: ok I'll look if I get it (but don't hope to much, I started with Python some days ago :P). do you know any page where I can look on how to do it?
[07:31] <slippyr4> ardchoille, not sure why I am not though. "jon" is the use i created during install, and in fact the only non-root user
[07:31] <genii> orangey It is due for inclusion in final release of Feisty but can still use the Edgy HAL backend etc so compiles from source atm
[07:31] <orangey> genii: really! Well, that's great.
[07:31] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, it should be fine anyhow.  run fsck on it again and see if you get any more errors
[07:31] <rogue780> RainCT, no idea.
[07:31] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : Reply me on main i aint get ur msgs in pm
[07:31] <genii> orangey May already be in edgy-proposed
[07:31] <Lynx-> are there any usplash themes for Ubuntu like the theme that was included in Dapper and earlier? I want to see not only the Ubuntu logo and progress bar, but also some lines like "Starting http server... [ok] "
[07:31] <rogue780> RainCT, although I'd start with looking on google for something about programming gnome plugins or whatnot
[07:31] <orangey> in other news, how do I launch a task-manager in gnome? Is there one that already launches according to some key combo?
[07:31] <totalwormage> i'm having a strange video problem, even after reinstalling restricted formats my mediaplayers view my movies like this: http://worm.shanara.nl/upload/Screenshot.png
[07:31] <rogue780> orangey, www.ubuntuguide.org
[07:31] <davidatil> yes, i have post code snippet at http://www.ao2group.com/pages/points/71
[07:31] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : kindly check ur pm again
[07:31] <rogue780> orangey, pretty sure it is there
[07:31] <davidatil> but have you check it?
[07:31] <faceface> hrm... I got it working!
[07:31] <micky> hi
[07:31] <orangey> rogue780: thank you!
[07:31] <ardchoille> hi
[07:31] <samuel> ive got a file, with some mime stuff in it, im pretty sure its an attachment, how can i decode the attachment and put it in its own file automatically (will be used for batch processing)
[07:31] <wolferine> there a funky system monitor for ubuntu?
[07:31] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, i really don't know what to do about it.  it seems like it's fine.  can you mount /dev/hda5 fine?
[07:31] <ardchoille> wolferine: gnome-system-monitor
[07:31] <wolferine> transparent/nice setup/lots of features
[07:31] <slippyr4> i am glad i changed my root password now
[07:32] <rwxr-xr--> yes its fine
[07:32] <genii> orangey LOL I found what you wanted :)
[07:32] <richdurhm> hey can anyone let me knwo hoe to make myself owner and o give myself permission to copy files to a folder?
[07:32] <ardchoille> wolferine: Oh, sorry. Ok, youmight be interested in gkrellm, gdesklets (gnome) or maybe superkaramba (kde)
[07:32] <rwxr-xr--> and show the volume in working on it all things going fine
[07:32] <AtypicalChuck> Question: Where do I enter a piece of code starting with "$ git-clone"? The terminal doesn't seem to recognize it
[07:32] <xtknight> richdurhm, sudo chown -R user:user /folder/that/you/want/ownership/of
[07:32] <PREMIUM93> Anyone willing to help an Intel, SiS, Ati All-in-Wonder 9600, Edgy get Direct Rendering working? or point to a nice website?
[07:32] <ardchoille> wolferine: Although, there is torsmo and conky also
[07:32] <totalwormage> AtypicalChuck: remove the $
[07:32] <xtknight> richdurhm, for write permission:  sudo chmod u+w /folder/to/which/you/want/write/support
[07:32] <rogue780> PREMIUM93, www.ubuntuguide.org
[07:32] <wolferine> getting gdesklets, ill give it a look
[07:33] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight,: i mount its all things  fine .. And i am working on it. all things fine.. And the volume link is on my desktop
[07:33] <wolferine> can someone explain how to copy/paste to me?
[07:33] <genii> orangey http://pysdm.sourceforge.net/      at bottom is Ubuntu links
[07:33] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, i wouldn't worry about the errors, then
[07:33] <ph8> test?
[07:33] <ph8> oh good.
[07:33] <xtknight> !pastebin | wolferine
[07:33] <ubotu> wolferine: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:33] <con-man> ctrl+c ctrl+v
[07:33] <richdurhm> thnx
[07:33] <wolferine> if I select text, its pasted by middle click
[07:33] <NET||abuse> hmm, okok, ddclient, it's not being reliable in setting up our ip address
[07:33] <slippyr4> how can i setup edgy so that i can connect a *new* gdm session via vnc ?
[07:33] <AtypicalChuck> total: "bash: git-clone: command not found"
[07:33] <con-man> ctrl+c ctrl+v
[07:33] <con-man> ctrl+c ctrl+v
[07:33] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight,: not a problem but.. its shows problem on boot and when scan all file system.
[07:33] <ardchoille> wolferine: highlight and middle-click , or CTRL+c to copy and CTRL+v to paste
[07:33] <wolferine> if I select text, then ctrl-c, I use ctrl-v
[07:33] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, i guess you will just have to ignore it
[07:33] <con-man> !botabuse | ubotu
[07:33] <ubotu> ubotu: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[07:34] <con-man> lolololol
[07:34] <slippyr4> ie. so that i can do something like vncviewer ubuntuhost:5901 and then log in ?
[07:34] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, its nothing a big problem ? just ignore it?
[07:34] <nsg> how can i check what all dependencies a package has
[07:34] <ardchoille> con-man: That was unnecessary
[07:34] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, correct, as far as i know.  if you can use it fine, it's not a problem
[07:34] <con-man> ok
[07:34] <Super_Pollos> hello!, I have a 1998 PCI video card with a built-in tv tuner, but Linux doesnt detect the tuner only the video card as a "VGA compatible ATI 3D Rage Pro" Why is it not detecting the tuner?
[07:34] <wolferine> so if i want to paste in somewhere, that needs to be selected, my only option is to ctrl-c/right click then copy?
[07:34] <con-man>
[07:34] <xtknight> nsg, dpkg -s <pkgname>
[07:34] <Xif> I accidentally deleted the top panel?
[07:35] <nixnoob> after installing Xgl/Beryl my vnc no longer works....
[07:35] <RainCT> rogue780, ardchoille: do you know how that plugin is called?
[07:35] <nsg> thanks :)
[07:35] <twister> hi, i am using fglrx drivers with clone mode, and am having troubles getting the right screen resolution to work
[07:35] <AtypicalChuck> Is the git-clone command something I have to set up or something? I get a "bash: git-clone: command not found" message when I enter it in the terminal
[07:35] <wolferine> since the text is already selected, I would not be able to middle-mouse button click
[07:35] <richdurhm> good stuff ythnx man
[07:35] <totalwormage> (sorry for asiking it again...) i'm having a strange video problem, even after reinstalling restricted formats my mediaplayers view my movies like this: http://worm.shanara.nl/upload/Screenshot.png
[07:35] <wolferine> that correct?
[07:35] <Xif> how do I restore it?
[07:35] <xtknight> Super_Pollos, is that really a tv tuner card or just a video out device?
[07:35] <orangey> genii: thank you : )
[07:35] <rogue780> con-man, I thought it was funny
[07:35] <rogue780> RainCT, no
[07:36] <xtknight> totalwormage, try a different video-output device.  "mplayer -vo help"
[07:36] <genii> orangey This seems like what you wanted, yes?
[07:36] <Xif> is there a way to restore the top panel which I just deleted?
[07:36] <totalwormage> xtknight: will try :]
[07:36] <wolferine> anyone?
[07:36] <ubuntu__> could someone help me, im trying to add a 3rd OS to my PC, i currently have windows xp and ubuntu , im preparing to add kubuntu, right now im attempting to add another partition for Kubuntu, but i already have 4 primary partitions
[07:36] <Super_Pollos> its a tv tuner, it was in a video editing machine running windows 98 before i put it in teh linux mahine
[07:36] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : okie thanks want to ask one morething.. how can i create volume link on desktop? this is the volume location/media/hda8
[07:36] <Super_Pollos> machine*
[07:37] <wolferine> ubuntu__>u can just grab the KDE portion of ubuntu, not install an entirely new OS
[07:37] <genii> Super_Pollos: This an AIW 128 PCI ?
[07:37] <Otacon22> anyone know how can I use my usb fingerprint sensor under ubuntu?
[07:37] <Otacon22> for example to log in
[07:37] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, create "new launcher" on desktop, with 'Command' as "nautilus /media/hda8"
[07:37] <AtypicalChuck> I am trying to update my Mobile Intel chipset drivers to see if that is the reason my 3D graphics don't work well anymore; I found this page: http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html but I can't use the git-clone commands to work in the terminal. What am I doing wrong?
[07:37] <micky> ubuntu__: you need to make a logical partition, as you cant have more than 4 primary
[07:37] <dts> ubuntu keeps setting my time back an hour (we just had DST change)
[07:37] <xtknight> Otacon22, i dont believe it is possible, sorry.  definitely not possible in the stock install
[07:38] <richdurhm> anyone in south jersey area using verizon dsl experinces some problems?
[07:38] <Super_Pollos> i dont know, it wont tell me, and it only has "SuperCom" stickers on it
[07:38] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : and What is the type ?
[07:38] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, application
[07:38] <ubuntu__> micky yea, i realize that, but i dont know which partition to delete
 i saw this videoof suse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhVgChE_cYQ
[07:38] <Otacon22> *video of
[07:38] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : thanks alot :)
[07:39] <ubuntu__> wolferine i dont know how to just grab the kde desktop for ubuntu >.<
[07:39] <wolferine> ubuntu__, u able to use Synaptic?
[07:39] <denis_on_ubuntu> when i type iwconfig i get eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:""  Nickname:"Broadcom 4311", Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid ,  RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off, Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0, Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0,  Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0 - anyone have any ideas what the problem may be?
[07:39] <ubuntu__> yes
[07:39] <wolferine> its in there
[07:39] <wolferine> just search for KDE
[07:39] <nixnoob> ubuntu__ www.ubuntuguide.org
[07:40] <richdurhm> any one having problems with verizon dsl?
[07:40] <wolferine> or what nixnoob said
[07:40] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : i installed almost all update packages.. but it takes too much space.. means packages installed now how can i remove packages whichone installed .
[07:40] <ardchoille> RainCT: I know nothing about coding, sorry
[07:40] <richdurhm> rwxr-xr-- :appl/add/remove
[07:41] <nixnoob> how long does a kernel compile take on a 2.2 ghz machine?
[07:41] <xtknight> Otacon22, going to take a look at the video in a second
[07:41] <ubuntu__> i dont think it much matters now, i think i already messed up my ubuntu partition
[07:41] <mando> Does anyone know how to change the order of the boot loader? - I want windows to be the first option, not ubuntu ....
[07:41] <xtknight> nixnoob, one hour 20 mins perhaps
[07:41] <denis_on_ubuntu> xtknight - sorry i couldnt answer earlier - um, the problem is I am not sure how to connect to wireless. Like i follow the instructions, but is there something that shows me a list of wireless networks around me or something like that?
[07:41] <ubuntu__> was attempting to resize, but it wouldn't resize correctly
[07:41] <denis_on_ubuntu> that i can click on like in windows and just hit "connect"?
[07:41] <nixnoob> xtknight thanks.
[07:41] <obstfliege> how can i get the current timestamp? with date maybe?
[07:41] <rwxr-xr--> i dont want to remove package.. want to remove installing file.
[07:41] <xtknight> obstfliege, 'date'
[07:42] <genii> Super_Pollos: Try  sudo apt-get install gatos and sudo apt-get install tvtime
[07:42] <GiMo> Hello.
[07:42] <xtknight> !hi | GiMo
[07:42] <ubotu> GiMo: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:42] <xtknight> denis_on_ubuntu, maybe in network-manager?
[07:42] <GiMo> How many gb/mb's fills ubuntu on my hard drive, when its installed?
[07:42] <mando> Does anyone know how to change the order of the boot loader? - I want windows to be the first option, not ubuntu ....
[07:42] <obstfliege> xtknight, with which parameter?
[07:43] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, .. i download the package and installed it now i want to remove that package not installed item.
[07:43] <denis_on_ubuntu> hm, i dont think so - it just asks me to specify network name (ESSID) and the password - which i do, but it doesn't seem to "read" any networks around me
[07:43] <mando> I'm not sure, whether it is not the kernel, that needs to be changed
[07:43] <denis_on_ubuntu> i'm a total noob at this so i'm not even sure i configured the network card properly
[07:43] <denis_on_ubuntu> the wireless one
[07:43] <xtknight> obstfliege, 'date' with no parameters lists a date and timestamp, do you need anything else?
[07:43] <totalwormage> xtknight: thanks a lot! it worked (i figured out how to change it in gxine) :] ] ] ]
[07:43] <AtypicalChuck> Why am I getting a "bash: git: command not found" error in the terminal?
[07:44] <obstfliege> xtknight, i dont see the timestamp
[07:44] <xtknight> AtypicalChuck, you don't have git installed
[07:44] <obstfliege> xtknight, i mean just the number<PHONE_NUMBER>205 whatever
[07:44] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, `gksudo synaptic` and use that to remove packages?
[07:44] <xtknight> obstfliege, oh, julian?
[07:44] <AtypicalChuck> How do I install git? I need it :)
[07:44] <xtknight> obstfliege, Tue Mar 13 14:44:16 EDT 2007 is what it shows for me.  you want like 234324432?
[07:45] <dyrne> mando: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst   look for line default  0       change to whatever number 0 or 1 or 2   just count the number of entries for OS at bottom of file start at 0
[07:45] <obstfliege> xtknight, yes
[07:45] <Roger_Melly> Can anyone please help me get up and running again.  I am told "error running install command for nvidia kernel module"  on start
[07:45] <mando> dyrne: I'll try, thx ;)
[07:45] <genii> AtypicalChuck: And you get this error when?
[07:46] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : root@freddy:/# gksudo synaptic
[07:46] <rwxr-xr--> (gksudo:8183): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[07:46] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, are you not in gnome?
[07:46] <rwxr-xr--> i m using gnome not kde
[07:46] <dyrne> mando: that changes which it will boot youll have to copy/paste to change actual order. just paste win above ubuntu
[07:46] <thespaceantelope> I'm having a problem with my DVD Rom drive, It's not mounting and there is a problem with IRQ 15 being disabled. I've searched on the internet but i'm a Linux newbie and I either couldn't get the advice to work or it might as well be in greek.
[07:47] <mando> dyrne: oki doki :D
[07:47] <genii> rwxr-xr--: The command prompt indicates you are already in a root prompt. Dom't issue gksudo from root prompt, just synaptic
[07:47] <thespaceantelope> Does anyone know how tosolve this sort of problem? I tried compiling a kernel but I couldn't do that either.
[07:47] <obstfliege> xtknight, i got it: date +%s
[07:47] <AtypicalChuck> genii: I am trying to use a git-clone command to update my graphics drivers... but I don't have git installed and have no idea how to install git from this site: http://git.or.cz/#download
[07:47] <xtknight> obstfliege, ah i was going to suggest that, forgot the +
[07:47] <rwxr-xr--> root@freddy:/# synaptic
[07:47] <rwxr-xr--> (synaptic:8220): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[07:48] <obstfliege> thx
[07:48] <AtypicalChuck> I go to the directory and it is full of .tar files I don't know how to use.
[07:48] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, do you have synaptic open already?
[07:48] <rwxr-xr--> no
[07:48] <genii> AtypicalChuck: You don't need to install it that way. It has a package
[07:48] <nsg> is ubuntu packages available on cd?
[07:48] <xtknight> AtypicalChuck, git is in the repositories
[07:48] <genii> !git | AtypicalChuck
[07:48] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : i aint open synaptic
[07:48] <ubotu> atypicalchuck: git: GNU Interactive Tools, a file browser/viewer and process viewer/killer. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.20-9 (edgy), package size 251 kB, installed size 964 kB
[07:48] <xtknight> nsg, yes
[07:49] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, have you ever used synaptic?  i dont know why it's not starting.  reboot i guess, use synaptic to remove packages.
[07:49] <nsg> complete set of packages?
[07:49] <AtypicalChuck> It has a package? Sweet let me try that real quick.
[07:49] <rwxr-xr--> ya i used synaptic before
[07:49] <xtknight> nsg, not from universe or multiverse afaik, but i think all from the base repos are  on a dvd
[07:50] <nsg> great... where can i get it from?
[07:50] <mando> dyrne: it says  at the bottom of the document:
[07:50] <mando> # on /dev/hda1
[07:50] <mando> title		Windows NT/2000/XP (loader)
[07:50] <mando> root		(hd0,0)
[07:50] <mando> savedefault
[07:50] <mando> makeactive
[07:50] <mando> chainloader	+1
[07:50] <mando> Can I just cut it out of there and put it at the top?
[07:50] <xtknight> nsg, is there a specific package you're looking for?
[07:50] <genii> !pastebin | mando
[07:50] <ubotu> mando: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:50] <rwxr-xr--> well Rebooting.. will be back...
[07:50] <nixnoob> are there any guides for removing kernel bloat, i want to kno what i can and cannot remove?
[07:51] <xtknight> nsg, ubuntu dvds http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/release/
[07:51] <mando> genii: sorry
[07:51] <IrN> l
[07:51] <nsg> i don have a net connection in the ubuntu pc..so i was just wondering if the softwares would be available on cd
[07:51] <genii> mando No worries :) Now you know
[07:51] <thespaceantelope> I'm having trouble with my DVDROM drive. It won't mount. Does anyone here have the heart and/or time to assist me?
[07:51] <xtknight> thespaceantelope, sure
[07:51] <thespaceantelope> thanks
[07:51] <mando> genii: :D
[07:52] <thespaceantelope> There is a problem with my IRQ 15
[07:52] <xtknight> thespaceantelope, how did you deduce that?
[07:52] <redbox> if all I have is a 60G NTFS drive that contains XP and I try to install Ubuntu, will it auto-resize and partition a spot for the Ubuntu install?
[07:52] <genii> redbox No
[07:52] <xtknight> redbox, no you will need to request a resize youreslf
[07:52] <thespaceantelope> because it would say IRQ15 disabled, Nobody Cared
[07:52] <xtknight> thespaceantelope, what motherboard?
[07:52] <redbox> xtknight: using?
[07:52] <thespaceantelope> I'm on an Acer Travelmate Laptop.
[07:53] <xtknight> redbox, the ubuntu partitioner (gparted).  it can resize NTFS afaik
[07:53] <thespaceantelope> I don't know the motherboard
[07:53] <rogue780> if I run a apt-get dist-upgrade will it upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[07:53] <redbox> xtknight: is that an option I'll get during the install?
[07:53] <xtknight> thespaceantelope, do you know that it's related to the dvd problem?
[07:53] <AtypicalChuck> Ok, I figured out how to install the git package with "sudo apt-get install git-core" :)
[07:53] <xtknight> redbox, can't confirm that NTFS resize is available during install, but i believe it is
[07:53] <CheshireViking> is there a way of connecting a Samsung D900 mobile phone to ubuntu so I can copy photo's off the onto the hard drive, I've tried BitPim, but that doesn't recognise the phone
[07:53] <xtknight> redbox, use the gparted livecd, it's a more reliable system
[07:53] <nsg> xtknight: is cd iso available?
[07:53] <xtknight> nsg, yes hold on
[07:53] <thespaceantelope> I believe so.
[07:53] <nsg> ok
[07:54] <thespaceantelope> When I would install xubuntu it would say IRQ15 disabled.
[07:55] <thespaceantelope> Maybe i'm making the wrong connection and it has nothing to do, how else might by DVD drive problem be fixed? When I try to mount hdc it says that it cannot be found
[07:55] <xtknight> nsg, http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/
[07:55] <thespaceantelope> I tried mounting it and I get this message: Message from syslogd@ubuntu at Tue Mar 13 12:12:16 2007 ...
[07:55] <thespaceantelope> ubuntu kernel: [17180493.232000]  Disabling IRQ #15
[07:55] <xtknight> thespaceantelope, hrmm.
[07:56] <xtknight> redbox, get gparted livecd here http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[07:56] <redbox> xtknight: thanks
[07:56] <xtknight> redbox, it's a more reliable option than the ubuntu one
[07:56] <[Tuxedo] > Is there anyone that knows how to disable the root file system check!? I can't boot linux without having to wait 30 minutes for it to go through 600gb worth of hard drives!!
[07:56] <xtknight> thespaceantelope, is hdc the dvd drive?
[07:56] <thespaceantelope> I don't know.
[07:56] <xtknight> !bonager | [Tuxedo]
[07:56] <Darius08x> Darius says:
[07:56] <Darius08x> "Failed to start the x server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?"
[07:57] <thespaceantelope> unfortunately.
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bonager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <Darius08x> Darius says:
[07:57] <Darius08x> yes
[07:57] <Darius08x> Darius says:
[07:57] <Darius08x> X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting.
[07:57] <Darius08x> whoops
[07:57] <[Tuxedo] > !bonager
[07:57] <xtknight> [Tuxedo] , http://www.debianadmin.com/bonager-the-boot-scan-manager-for-your-ubuntu-desktop.html
[07:57] <[Tuxedo] > thanks! :)
[07:57] <genii> thespaceantelope: I would suggest going into the bios and putting the hd controller into IDE emulation/compatability mode
[07:57] <thespaceantelope> I went into Bios and it's severely lacking in options.
[07:57] <thespaceantelope> HD controller into IDE emulation mode? what would that do?
[07:58] <Darius08x> Ok, I just recently installed fiesty fawn herd to my laptop using the mini.iso. The only problem I had was it was a text interface. So I typed the command "sudo apt-get install gnome" Which then installed gnome.
[07:58] <xtknight> probably only applies with sata controllers
[07:58] <metallic> et
[07:58] <Darius08x> But now whenever I start up ubuntu I get this message
[07:58] <Darius08x> Darius says:
[07:58] <Darius08x> "Failed to start the x server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?"
[07:58] <Darius08x> Darius says:
[07:58] <Darius08x> yes
[07:58] <Darius08x> Darius says:
[07:58] <Darius08x> X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting.
[07:58] <xtknight> !pastebin | Darius08x
[07:58] <ubotu> Darius08x: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:58] <xtknight> thespaceantelope, well somehow we need to figure out the block device of the dvd drive.  hold on.
[07:58] <thespaceantelope> I've been tryign to get this working for around a month.
[07:59] <nsg> xtknight: i guess its the live cd... is all packages too availble for download as cd image
[07:59] <thespaceantelope> thanks.
[07:59] <Kronuz> hello
[07:59] <charl_ie> Darius08x: try apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:59] <Kronuz> hey, how can I resize a partition?
[07:59] <Darius08x> ok, ttrying that now
[07:59] <[Tuxedo] > Wait a second. xtknight: I don't even -have- bonager.
[07:59] <xtknight> thespaceantelope, pastebin output of "sudo lshw -class disk" please
[07:59] <xtknight> [Tuxedo] , you need to download it
[07:59] <ardchoille> !gparted | Kronuz
[07:59] <ubotu> Kronuz: gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[07:59] <[Tuxedo] > So if I download it, it will stop checking my file system?
[08:00] <xtknight> nsg, i do not believe so, i'm not sure
[08:00] <thespaceantelope> I use that command in the terminal?
[08:00] <xtknight> nsg, individual ones are available
[08:00] <Kronuz> thanks ardchoille :)
[08:00] <xtknight> [Tuxedo] , not sure, i think it will let you say 'yes, scan' or 'no, don't scan'
[08:00] <ardchoille> Kronuz: You're welcome :)
[08:00] <nsg> ok
[08:00] <AtypicalChuck> Is there anyway to make the Ubuntu image viewer display animated GIF's as actually animated instead of just a single frame?
[08:01] <Darius08x> ok, it says its installing the ubuntu desktop now.
[08:01] <thespaceantelope> I put that command into the terminal and it didn't work.
[08:01] <xtknight> thespaceantelope, what did it say?
[08:01] <Darius08x> This is going to take about 25 minutes it says.
[08:01] <Darius08x> I'll be back later if it doesn't work, thank you for the help.
[08:01] <thespaceantelope> root@ubuntu:/home/maryann# |shw -class disk
[08:01] <thespaceantelope> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `|'
[08:02] <xtknight> thespaceantelope, it's an ell (L) not a pipe.  also you need sudo in front of all that
[08:02] <thespaceantelope> ohh yes.
[08:02] <wick2o> hello
[08:02] <xtknight> !hi | wick2o
[08:02] <ubotu> wick2o: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:02] <rogue780> hello wick2o
[08:03] <wick2o> I use a preseed file and manually setup my nic
[08:03] <wick2o> however i have two network cards...is it possible to setup both nic's in a preseed file?
[08:03] <thespaceantelope> It says IDE
[08:03] <soundray> AtypicalChuck: not really -- it's a still image viewer. You can use showimg to play animations, or the Gimp.
[08:03] <xtknight> thespaceantelope, i need the whole output of the command in a pastebin
[08:04] <xtknight> !pastebin | thespaceantelope
[08:04] <ubotu> thespaceantelope: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:04] <soundray> AtypicalChuck: maybe firefox is the easiest way
[08:04] <thespaceantelope> I'll use the pate bin....but all it says in the Terminal is IDE right now. A few other things flashed.
[08:05] <thespaceantelope> ohh here we have something...just a sec
[08:05] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : can i psate 5 lines in ur pm?
[08:05] <Pelo> I just had a thought I would like to confirm,  since my home folder is on a seperate partiton, does that mean that I could, install a load of different distro ( to try out)  and direct them all to the same home partition and always have all my info up to date which ever parttion i chose to use at that time ?
[08:05] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, sure
[08:05] <wick2o> i guess i could use a late command and just echo "iface eth1 inet static" >> /etc/init.d/interface
[08:06] <xtknight> Pelo, yes if you select mount point as /home and use the same user name.
[08:06] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight,  i pasted .
[08:06] <soundray> Pelo: you can do this in principle. There are potential problems, though
[08:06] <thespaceantelope> there. I pastebined it
[08:06] <Pelo> xtknight,  that's waht I was thinking
[08:06] <Pelo> soundray,  please elaborate
[08:06] <fbarcenas> is there an Itunes look-a-like or equivalent for ubuntu?
[08:06] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, this is another vfat partition that you can not access?
[08:06] <wolferine> anyone use gdesklets?
[08:06] <xtknight> thespaceantelope, i need the URL of the pastebin
[08:06] <Retardedpope> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10218/ is this something I should bugreport or am I doing something wrong?
[08:06] <thespaceantelope> sorry....
[08:07] <Pelo> wolferine,  I do , what can I help you with ?
[08:07] <soundray> Pelo: if you have for example OpenOffice in two different versions in two distros, the later one may render your settings directory unusable for the older one.
[08:07] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, yA this volume is not showing on desktop
[08:07] <xtknight> Pelo, i wouldn't trust  anything though.  make sure all the data is backed up
[08:07] <fbarcenas> wolferine, I did.. It was OK..
[08:07] <wolferine> u able to view network drives?
[08:07] <thespaceantelope> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10222/
[08:07] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, what happens if you try to mount it from the terminal?
[08:07] <genii> Pelo Changes you make in one dist will leave remnants in the default settings for that user which the other dist may not know what to do with... etc
[08:07] <fbarcenas> wolferine,  gdesklets is the equivalent of the dashboard in OSX..
[08:07] <rwxr-xr--> nothing
[08:07] <rwxr-xr--> i mount it
[08:07] <yamo> hi
[08:07] <Pelo> wolferine,  I have no network drives but I would assume you need to give the desklet the proper path
[08:07] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, anything at the end of dmesg?
[08:07] <xtknight> thespaceantelope, ok, the cd drive is indeed /dev/hdc
[08:07] <wolferine> never used OSX
[08:08] <xtknight> thespaceantelope, regretfully i really don't know why it's saying the IRQ stuff
[08:08] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight,  check Ur pm
[08:08] <ubuntu__> iaew gente
[08:08] <wolferine> yeah, proper path, being what Pelo?
[08:08] <thespaceantelope> ok...i'll try to mount it to /media/cdrom
[08:08] <ubuntu__> acabai de estala o ubuntu
[08:08] <fbarcenas> wolferine, Wel,, It really has nothing to do with mapping network drives.
[08:08] <gordonjcp> simple enough question, but how do I save out an image in an email in Evolution?
[08:08] <genii> Pelo For an upgrade strategy however it works great
[08:08] <xtknight> !br | ubuntu__
[08:08] <ubotu> ubuntu__: pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[08:08] <Pelo> wolferine,  your network drives have mount points in ubuntu ?  that path
[08:08] <wolferine> fbarcenas, i agree :)
[08:08] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : reply me here i aint get ur msgs in pm window.
[08:09] <wolferine> yeah, tried it Pelo, but even /home/username wouldnt work
[08:09] <fbarcenas> wolferine, My wife uses it to monitor cpu usage and to put sports scores on the desktop tht automatically update, and stuff.
[08:09] <wolferine> had to use /home instead
[08:09] <ralph_> hi all, anyone done an Ubuntu Install on a Supermicro server before, I cant get past NIC setup, the install just hangs
[08:09] <thespaceantelope> When I try to mount it, it says mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist
[08:09] <Pelo> genii,  xtknight  sound I was thinking more in line of a learning situation
[08:09] <estupendocero> how do I mount my ipod as a removable drive? it's not automatically detecting it
[08:09] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--,  so you can mount the drive from the terminal?  i.e. `sudo mount /dev/hda8 /media/hda`?
[08:09] <xtknight> thespaceantelope, very odd.  you tried rebooting already, right?
[08:10] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight,  i mounted it already.
[08:10] <genii> Pelo If you use only 1 username on one dist and another username when booting to the other dist I see no issues
[08:10] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, ah ok.  and you can access it fine/
[08:10] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, do you just want to create a shortcut for it?
[08:10] <thespaceantelope> not at the second. But, I've rebooted hundreds of times in the past and it's never worked
[08:10] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : but whenever i reboot going to mount it again. again
[08:10] <Pelo> wolferine, if you can access your network drive from nautilus,  use the path provided there to specify in the desklet configuration
[08:10] <xtknight> thespaceantelope, sorry i have no idea why /dev/hdc isn't showing up
[08:10] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : i create a shortcut as u told me that how can i ..
[08:10] <thespaceantelope> hmm. Might it have something to do with the kernel?
[08:10] <sasch> hi all
[08:10] <soundray> Pelo: I've currently got one machine with parallel installs of dapper and feisty, and so far it has worked well with a shared home partition.
[08:10] <sasch> can help me with apt
[08:11] <wolferine> Pelo, I tried the most obvious things, im saying its a bit odd
[08:11] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : but the problem is when i reboot my system this volume going unmount again.. and after that i mount it again.
[08:11] <xtknight> thespaceantelope, probably a module being unloaded or something.  modules create special devices like /dev/hdc, it looks like it had been created and now has disappeared
[08:11] <soundray> sasch: you've got to say what's wrong
[08:11] <n30n> how do i repartition ubuntu
[08:11] <n30n> !partition
[08:11] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:11] <thespaceantelope> hmm
 can helo me
[08:11] <n1ce> helo
[08:11] <Pelo> ok thanks for the heads up guys
[08:11] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, ohhhh.  well add it to fstab and use "auto" for options
[08:11] <_Hummin> Hi.. I'm using ubuntu + ati drivers and get some weird stuff in blender (the 3d app)
[08:11] <xtknight> !gparted | n30n
[08:11] <Heroin01> Hallo
[08:11] <ubotu> n30n: gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[08:11] <wolferine> I had to use /home instead of /home/username
[08:11] <_Hummin> the suppsedly rounded edges get all jagged
[08:11] <thespaceantelope> howmight I load that a module for /dev/hdc
[08:11] <soundray> sasch: I don't know, it depends on the problem
[08:11] <Heroin01> how can i unzip a .zip file via shh?
[08:11] <wolferine> and I am not sure why
[08:11] <_Hummin> and textures seem a little weird
[08:12] <_Hummin> anyone have a clue?
[08:12] <genii> thespaceantelope: I suspect more with IDE/SATA irq 15 is well known IDE controller IRQ but not for SATA. I would recommend changing int he BIOS to emulate/behave as IDE
[08:12] <soundray> Heroin01: ssh?
[08:12] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, .. i am newbie.. plz define how can i fstab ? Auto?
[08:12] <thespaceantelope> ok, I will try that on next reboot.
[08:12] <n1ce> i am newbie
[08:12] <noooby> i have a trendnet usb wireless dongle with a realtek chipset. How do i get it to install? all the instructiosn on the forums are for different chipsets ?
[08:12] <xtknight> thespaceantelope, anything in dmesg about /dev/hdc?  "dmesg | grep /dev/hdc" post on pastebin
[08:12] <Heroin01> hosk_ how can i unzip a .zip in command line?
[08:12] <xtknight> !fstab | rwxr-xr--
[08:12] <ubotu> rwxr-xr--: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[08:12] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, well open fstab.  "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[08:12] <wolferine> anyone use gdesklets? ( able to view network drives)?
[08:13] <user-land> do you here also see xml parsing errors in Thunderbird lately ? for example when viewing the source of an email or opening an attachment ?
[08:13] <xtknight> Heroin01, "unzip asdf.zip"
[08:13] <soundray> Heroin01: with unzip. You may have to install it.
[08:13] <Heroin01> unzip isnt a know bash command
[08:13] <beg1689> when i witch to my wireless network using network-admin or nm-applet i lose my DNS, how can i fix it?
[08:13] <xtknight> Heroin01, sudo apt-get install unzip
[08:13] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : same warning .. root@freddy:~# gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[08:13] <rwxr-xr--> (gksudo:6450): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[08:13] <thespaceantelope> hmm nothing shows up when I type that...
[08:13] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, um do you use Beryl or anything?
[08:14] <rwxr-xr--> yeah
[08:14] <xtknight> thespaceantelope, guess there isn't anything about /dev/hdc in dmesg then.  try genii's suggestion
[08:14] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight,  i open the file through pico edit :p
[08:14] <genii> You should really stop running gksudo from a root-already prompt
[08:14] <thespaceantelope> All right.
[08:14] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, why can't you open gnome apps?  i dont know what's going on
[08:14] <_Hummin> anyone using blender 3d in ubuntu with ati drivers who don't mind double checking their xorg.conf against mine ?
[08:14] <genii> eg # <-- root prompt  $ <-- non-root prompt
[08:14] <Dreamxtreme> hi all
[08:14] <Dreamxtreme> i need noob help
[08:14] <rwxr-xr--> genii, : maybe..
[08:14] <xtknight> !hi | Dreamxtreme
[08:14] <ubotu> Dreamxtreme: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:14] <adrian_> Hello!
[08:14] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, well did you try at a $ prompt?
[08:14] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : i opened that file.
[08:14] <xtknight> !hi
[08:15] <micktm> #ubuntu-it
[08:15] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight,  no.
[08:15] <n30n> how do i unmount the partition so i can resize it.
[08:15] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, ok.  you will need to add an entry for /dev/hda8, vfat, /media/hda8, auto, 0 0.  see?
[08:15] <n30n> in gparted
[08:15] <xtknight> n30n, right click and press unmount under gparted
[08:15] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, also in another terminal you will need to create the folder /media/hda8.  "sudo mkdir -p /media/hda8"
[08:15] <soundray> user-land: this usually means that the package has been updated since you last started thunderbird
[08:15] <n30n> The partition could not be unmounted from the following mountpoints:
[08:15] <n30n> Most likely other partitions are also mounted on these mountpoints. You are advised to unmount them manually.
[08:15] <beg1689> can someone help me when i switched to wireless using network-admin or nm-applet/NetworkManager i lose my DNS, i know my DNS should be <IP_ADDRESS> how can i fix it
[08:16] <xtknight> n30n, which parition are you trying to unmount?
[08:16] <wolferine> anyone use gdesklets? ( able to view network drives)?
[08:16] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight,  i already created it..
[08:16] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, ok did you get the fstab entry added?
[08:16] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight,  well with $ gksudo gedit working
[08:16] <user-land> oh, sundray, thank you :-)
[08:16] <n30n> /dev/hda1.. the ext3 filesystem
[08:16] <ralph_> Server Install hangs after NIC setup on a supermicro server, anyone have any ideas?
[08:16] <xtknight> n30n, is that your root FS?
[08:16] <Dreamxtreme> i have installed ubuntu and am trying to install some wi-fi dirvers hoverever i cant find ones 4 my device so im trying some others and i try to do a make config but i just get errors  HELP!!!!
[08:16] <n30n> xtknight, yes
[08:17] <soundray> ralph_: does it react to Ctrl-C ?
[08:17] <xtknight> n30n, you can't resize it while in ubuntu.  use the gparted livecd: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[08:17] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : there is no entry for hda8
[08:17] <ralph_> doesnt react to anything
[08:17] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, right, you have to add one to the end of fstab.  do you follow?
[08:17] <rwxr-xr--> ya
[08:17] <ralph_> have to hard boot to recover
[08:17] <genii> ralph_If you told it to autodetect the adapter then it timed out and you did not manually configure it, do so
[08:17] <jamison_> can someone help me with a wine issue
[08:17] <xtknight> Dreamxtreme, ./configure; make; make install you mean?
[08:17] <fbarcenas> Which is better amarok or exaile??
[08:17] <StoneNote> jamison, red wine with beef. white with fish
[08:17] <xtknight> jamison_, i'll try
[08:17] <ralph_> NIC setup is fine, it is after the setup that install hangs
[08:18] <adrian_> Anyone know how I change the color of menues and text?
[08:18] <Dreamxtreme> yea its the linux-wlan.org ones
[08:18] <mark007> fbarcenas, amarok is more fully featured, but if you're using gnome, then exaile is an acceptable alternative
[08:18] <soundray> StoneNote: :) I was going to say I get wine issues when I have one too many
[08:18] <user-land> you were right, soundray, thanks :-) wondering if the updater could not tell me to restart it ...
[08:18] <xtknight> adrian_, themes?
[08:18] <StoneNote> soundray, :)
[08:18] <xtknight> adrian_, it depends on the program sometimes.  most use the gnome theme
[08:18] <genii> ralph_ I've had it do this when LAN was unplugged etc
[08:18] <jamison_> when i click on an exe in the ubuntu file browser it will not open with wine
[08:18] <xtknight> Dreamxtreme, paste the output of the ./configure error
[08:18] <fbarcenas> mark007,  seems to work and install perfectly fine under gnome...
[08:18] <mark007> fbarcenas: probably best to try them both and see which you like. I like exaile simply because it's gnome-based. However, I really like the featureset on amarok
[08:18] <ralph_> happens wether LAN is plugged or not
[08:18] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight,  i set the line like u said.
[08:19] <jamison_> when i do it in wine file browser it will
[08:19] <n1ce> test
[08:19] <n1ce> hi
[08:19] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, ok paste the line you added
[08:19] <Dreamxtreme> rite o im in win at the mo ill be back
[08:19] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight,: /dev/hda8       /media/hda8     vfat    auto            0       0
[08:19] <whatspy> is /etc/crontab.hourly/ able to "run" symlinks ?
[08:19] <adrian_> xtknight: i sorry I meant the menues and text in the dropdown menues in the panels
[08:19] <mark007> fbarcenas: amarok has a lot of kde dependencies, but if you've got them on your computer already, by all means, use which one suits you best
[08:19] <ralph_> i  have tried 3 different iso's thinking I had corrupt file on CD, but is the same every time
[08:19] <LittleCCCC> i want to see service starting at boot ?
[08:19] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, looks good.  save fstab, exit.  then type "sudo mount -a" at the terminal
[08:19] <genii> ralph_ Well, as a test manually enter the info. Make sure gateway is correct
[08:19] <fbarcenas> mark007,  amarok seems to work and install perfectly fine under gnome...
[08:19] <soundray> whatspy: it should, if the link target is executable
[08:19] <xtknight> adrian_, yeah gtk themes can do that.  www.gnome-look.org
[08:20] <fbarcenas> mark007,  if I run amarok does that mean I will consume more system resources?
[08:20] <mark007> fbarcenas, yes, it definitely works. There's a slightly longer startup time, but that's not that big a deal
[08:20] <whatspy> soundray: ah, makes sense, I didn't set the right flags
[08:20] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, next time you reboot, /dev/hda8 should be mounted automatically
[08:20] <adrian_> xtknight: ok, I want white text with black bg, know of any?
[08:20] <rwxr-xr--> okie thanks xtknight  :)
[08:20] <ralph_> done that, install hangs between completion of NIC setup and start of next install step. Even skipping the NIC setup doesnt make any diff
[08:20] <mark007> fbarcenas, slightly more. I'm not sure of the exact figures, but it's probably not that big a deal
[08:20] <jamison_> when i click on an exe in the ubuntu file browser it will not open with wine
[08:20] <xtknight> adrian_, not off the top of my head, sorry
[08:21] <soundray> rwxr-xr--: I suggest changing the last 0 to 1
[08:21] <jamison_> when i click on an exe in the ubuntu file browser it will not open with wine
[08:21] <jamison_> when i click on an exe in the ubuntu file browser it will not open with wine
[08:21] <jamison_> when i click on an exe in the ubuntu file browser it will not open with wine
[08:21] <jamison_> sorry
[08:21] <LittleCCCC> how i can see service starting at boot ?
[08:21] <n30n> !iso
[08:21] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[08:21] <soundray> rwxr-xr--: (fsck priority, see man fstab)
[08:21] <xtknight> soundray: what do the last 0 0s do
[08:21] <jamison_> button stuck
[08:21] <fbarcenas> mark007,  Yeah, your right.. synaptica takes care of loading me up with whatever I need to make amarok work, so I will just go with that.
[08:21] <n30n> !burning
[08:21] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[08:21] <genii> ralph_ Go to console 4 and see what it's working on then
[08:21] <mark007> fbarcenas, sounds good :)
[08:22] <IdleOne> lol apokryphos he said sorry
[08:22] <adrian_> xtknight: What's the diff between gtk 1.x and gtk 2.x?
[08:22] <apokryphos> so I see
[08:22] <ralph_> ok, thx. be back later if necessary
[08:22] <jrib> can you upgrade packages using the desktop cd's?  i.e. can you add them as cd-rom repositories?
[08:22] <xtknight> adrian_, ummm well ubuntu has gtk 2.x, you will need a gtk 2.x theme
[08:22] <soundray> xtknight: the first one is for dump (don't know what it means, probably historical) and the second one is for fsck priority (man fstab)
[08:22] <LittleCCCC> guys i want to see service starting at boot ?
[08:22] <xtknight> adrian_, also metacity themes work.  metacity covers window borders and stuff, gtk covers menus/etc i think.  you have both metacity and gtk 2.x
[08:23] <soundray> LittleCCCC: for a graphical system services manager, have a look at bum
[08:23] <soundray> !info bum > LittleCCCC
[08:23] <LittleCCCC> no i see bum
[08:23] <genii> LOL
[08:23] <rwxr-xr--> will be back reboot time.
[08:23] <n1ce> helooooo
[08:23] <n1ce> my name is n1ce from indonesian
[08:23] <LittleCCCC> i want to see it starting with system boot like fedora?
[08:23] <fbarcenas> mark007, OMG, it has like a zillion dependencies, python, ruby, and dozens of libs..  but I guess it will be well worth it since every one seems to rave about it.
[08:23] <soundray> LittleCCCC: you want to see boot messages?
[08:24] <LittleCCCC> yes
[08:24] <genii> dmesg
[08:24] <xtknight> ahh no usplash
[08:24] <mark007> fbarcenas, python, ruby, etc are all important anyway.
[08:24] <soundray> LittleCCCC: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove all instances of "quiet"
[08:24] <bruenig> LittleCCCC, just delete the splash and quiet thing off of menu.lst
[08:24] <genii> also what soundray just said :)
[08:24] <mark007> fbarcenas, the main thing is the kde libs. It has to load all of those while running. Give it a shot though. I think you'll like it, and if you're not a minimalist then it's not that big of a deal
[08:24] <soundray> also what genii just said (your turn again, genii)
[08:24] <adrian_> xtknight: I like the the theme i'm using at the mom and just want to change this to two things. Any ideas how I do that?
[08:24] <yettenet> Ahahahah
[08:25] <yettenet> Hummin :)
[08:25] <yettenet> An Asimov-fan
[08:25] <yettenet> :P
[08:25] <genii> soundray :)
[08:25] <xtknight> adrian_, you'd have to learn how to edit gtk themes.  i don't know how personally.  but you could edit your current one
[08:25] <n1ce> please tell me about update ubuntu 6.10
[08:25] <soundray> ubotu, please tell n1ce about upgrade
[08:25] <n1ce> i'am finishing instalation from ubuntu 6.10
[08:26] <yettenet> !upgrade
[08:26] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:26] <n1ce> yes
[08:26] <n1ce> upgrade my ubuntu first
[08:26] <n1ce> sorry my english not good
[08:26] <adrian_> xtknight: yeah I have tried that in system/settings/themes but it changes alot of things. I don't want that
 !upgrade < thanks for your help
[08:27] <yettenet> Use ubotu as you wish... :P
[08:27] <n1ce> :)
[08:27] <yettenet> You just have to type an exclamation mark (!) at the beginning of your message
[08:27] <yettenet> :P
[08:27] <Heroin01> where in apache can i find the .htacess file?
[08:27] <n1ce> !test
[08:28] <soundray> ubotu, tell yettenet about msgthebot
[08:28] <ubotu> Failed.
[08:28] <xtknight> adrian_, i mean you'd have to edit the .theme file, you have more options when manually editing it with a text editor
[08:28] <n1ce> ok
[08:28] <K3nto> lol
[08:28] <K3nto> !anything
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <bruenig> HerculeP, acess or access
[08:28] <soundray> !botsnack
[08:28] <ubotu> Yum!
[08:28] <yettenet> !ubotu
[08:28] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:28] <n1ce> !about
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about about - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <n1ce> about
[08:28] <soundray> yettenet: please read the pm that ubotu sent you
[08:28] <adrian_> xtknight: I see, that's sounds a bit to advanced to me :)
[08:29] <yettenet> Sry
[08:29] <bruenig> Heroin01, an apt-file show gives me this, it looks like documentation so it should probably help. apache2-doc: usr/share/doc/apache2-doc/manual/howto/htaccess.html
[08:29] <[BTF] Chm0d> [BTF] Chm0d is gaming.  !gameinfo for more info.
[08:29] <Xif> why isn't there an "anti-deletion" protection for Gnome panels?  all you need to do is pick the wrong choice on the right-click menu and BAM, the panel is gone.
[08:29] <K3nto> !gameinfo
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gameinfo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <K3nto> !gameinfo | Chm0d
[08:30] <soundray> Xif: "anti-deletion protection" is called backup. As user, you are responsible for your own.
[08:30] <adrian_> xtknight: I'll look into it though. Thanks for your help :)
[08:30] <jamison_> where can i find the c: in my local folders
[08:30] <jamison_> teh virtual one for wine?
[08:30] <bruenig> Xif, just right click and readd it
[08:30] <jrib> jamison_: ~/.wine/
[08:30] <xtknight> jamison_, ~/.wine/drive_c
[08:30] <Xif> soundray: so according to you, we should also remove the Trash bin and make every delete permanent.
[08:31] <soundray> Xif: yes
[08:31] <soundray> Xif: I never use the trash bin, I use rm
[08:31] <bruenig> Xif, right click and readd it, how hard is that
[08:31] <colbert> Anyone here use MythTV and can help me set it up ?
[08:31] <Xif> soundray: also, no annoying questions for someone who wants to format his hard drive.
[08:31] <Xif> bruenig: not hard, annoying.
[08:32] <K3nto> bruenig: what were you helping me with yesterday?
[08:32] <bruenig> Xif, well I don't know where those settings are located, maybe gconf-editor, maybe .gnome2 or something but you can always keep a backup of those and then replace it
[08:32] <StoneNote> reading is annoying? so you come to irc??
[08:32] <bruenig> K3nto, yeah
[08:32] <soundray> Xif: sound interfaces like fdisk make it hard to do something unintended, without doing too much nannying
[08:32] <bruenig> Xif, for xfce panel, it always asks you to confirm, is that not the same for gnome
[08:33] <soundray> StoneNote: re-add (not read)
[08:33] <jrib> Xif: have you seen the mac commercial with the security guy for windows?  Your question reminded me of that.  It's opinion though, imo it isn't necessary since nothing drastic happens and having to confirm that would be more annoying for me.  But, you can make your argument and propose it to the GNOME developers of course
[08:33] <sanityx> To disable the graphical boot screen, and see all the status messages as it boots, do I just delete the word splash from menu.lst?
[08:33] <cables> sanityx, from the defoptions in there
[08:33] <xtknight> sanityx, remove 'splash' and 'quiet'
[08:34] <bruenig> yeah I am not a big fan of confirming stuff either but how often does anyone change the panel
[08:34] <sanityx> whats the difference between splash and quiet?
[08:34] <cables> sanityx, you shouldn't delete them from the actual kernels, because those won't carry through an update
[08:34] <Xif> jrib: give me a break
[08:34] <sanityx> cables, huh?
[08:34] <hosk> !register
[08:34] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:34] <Xif> if we allow to undelete random files, we should be able to undelete Gnome panels.
[08:34] <cables> sanityx, quiet makes it less verbose while it boots
[08:34] <sanityx> cables, I just want to disable the graphical boot screen with the progress bar, and see messages
[08:34] <jrib> sanityx: if you don't add quiet, you see boot messages in a small rectangle along with your splash
[08:34] <Xif> it's not that inconceivable.
[08:34] <bruenig> Xif, you can, right click and click add
[08:34] <jamison_> how do i get a exe file to run by clicking on the icon
[08:35] <soundray> sanityx: so, remove both quiet and splash
[08:35] <AlexC_> jamison_: install Wine
[08:35] <sanityx> jrib, So if I just remove quiet, I can see the splash AND the boot messages?
[08:35] <cables> sanityx, there's a section in menu.lst called defoptions. If you want to always have the splash disabled, you have to remove it from there.
[08:35] <jrib> sanityx: yes
[08:35] <soundray> sanityx: yes
[08:35] <Tangee> ok...grub problem...
[08:35] <jamison_> i have wine installed
[08:35] <trycyt> What package is ipp in?
[08:35] <sanityx> ah i see defoptions but its commented out
[08:35] <cables> sanityx, if you remove it from the kernel line, it'll start using the splash again when the kernel gets updated
[08:35] <mark007> jamison_: change the reference of the file to 'wine /location/of/program'
[08:35] <sanityx> its safe to just uncomment it?
[08:35] <trycyt> apt-file search ipp does not turn up anything.
[08:35] <jamison_> when i run it from the wine file browser it works
[08:35] <cables> sanityx, no
[08:36] <cables> sanityx, it stays commented
[08:36] <bruenig> Xif, when you put something in the trash by accident, it isn't just a button you press, there is some navigating to get it out too
[08:36] <xtknight> trycyt, what's ipp?
[08:36] <jrib> Xif: ah so you want an "undo", I misunderstood.  That's a good feature yes, the answer to your question is probably that no one has written it
[08:36] <mark007> jamison_: by right clicking and selecting properties
[08:36] <Dreamxtreme> xtknight: dreamxtreme@XTREME:~$ cd linux-wlan-ng-0.2.5
[08:36] <Dreamxtreme> dreamxtreme@XTREME:~/linux-wlan-ng-0.2.5$ make config
[08:36] <Dreamxtreme> -------------- Linux WLAN Configuration Script -------------
[08:36] <Dreamxtreme> The default responses are correct for most users.
[08:36] <Dreamxtreme> Build Prism2.x PCMCIA Card Services (_cs) driver? (y/n) [n] : n
[08:36] <Dreamxtreme> Build Prism2 PLX9052 based PCI (_plx) adapter driver? (y/n) [n] : n
[08:36] <jamison_> but if i jjust try to open the exe it wont open
[08:36] <Dreamxtreme> Build Prism2.5 native PCI (_pci) driver? (y/n) [n] :
[08:36] <sanityx> cables, So leave it commented but just remove quiet?
[08:36] <Dreamxtreme> Build Prism2.5 USB (_usb) driver? (y/n) [y] : y
[08:36] <AlexC_> !paste | Dreamxtreme
[08:36] <ubotu> Dreamxtreme: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:36] <soundray> trycyt: ipp isn't unique -- what exactly do you mean?
[08:36] <Dreamxtreme> Linux source directory [/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/build] :
[08:36] <Dreamxtreme> get_version.c:7:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
[08:36] <bruenig> hmmm
[08:36] <Dreamxtreme> get_version.c: In function main:
[08:36] <Dreamxtreme> get_version.c:10: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function printf
[08:36] <Dreamxtreme> make[1] : *** [get_version]  Error 1
[08:36] <Dreamxtreme> ./Configure: line 246: scripts/make.opts: No such file or directory
[08:36] <cables> !splash | Dreamxtreme
[08:36] <AlexC_> !paste | Dreamxtreme
[08:36] <ubotu> Dreamxtreme: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[08:36] <Xif> hehehe
[08:36] <etnoy> Dreamxtreme: do NOT paste here!
[08:36] <dyrne> Dreamxtreme: nice
[08:36] <Dreamxtreme> The kernel source tree is version .
[08:36] <sanityx> Dreamxtreme, STOP IT
[08:36] <Dreamxtreme> WARNING: the current running kernel is actually version 2.6.17-10-generic.
[08:36] <bruenig> !ops
[08:36] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[08:36] <cables> !paste | Dreamxtreme
[08:36] <Dreamxtreme> The current kernel build date is Fri Oct 13 18:45:35 2006.
[08:36] <Dreamxtreme> ./Configure: line 306: [: too many arguments
[08:36] <ibara> can't stop probably
[08:36] <StoneNote> jamison_, on KDE it's right click | open with | other | enter "wine" | hit enter  .. gnome I don't have open at the moment
[08:36] <etnoy> kick Dreamxtreme
[08:36] <Xif> LOL
[08:36] <Dreamxtreme> ./Configure: line 344: scripts/make.opts: No such file or directory
[08:36] <bruenig> how does anyone ever think that will work
[08:36] <rwxr-xr--> Is Nay Webcam supported yahoo Messenger Version?
[08:36] <xtknight> Dreamxtreme, please use pastebin next time and `sudo apt-get install build-essential`
[08:36] <dyrne> Dreamxtreme: exit and come back
[08:36] <bruenig> or that pasting is a good idea
[08:36] <AlexC_> Dreamxtreme: are you unable to read?
[08:36] <lisapc> When using Azureus, at bottom, i have a yellow circles that says: there appears to be a problem with the Distributed Databases UDP port mapping (NAT/Firewall).  But port testing says OK! and I have the port forwarded in my modem. And I have added the port to my firestarter firewall.  Any ideas anyone?
[08:36] <cables> sanityx, hold on
[08:37] <gnomefreak> try that again
[08:37] <Tangee> i rejigged some partitions which caused my root partition to change from /dev/hda3 to hda2 and now grub wont work
[08:37] <Tangee> it goes straight to command line
[08:37] <sanityx> cables, ok
[08:37] <trycyt> nvm, it's in cupsys
[08:37] <jamison_> i did that and it did not work
[08:37] <trycyt> smbspool, i'm guessing is in samba?
[08:37] <cables> sanityx, remove "splash" and "quiet" from the defoptions, then save the file. Keep it commented or you'll break stuff. Save the file, and open a terminal. Run "sudo update-grub". That will update all your kernel lines in menu.lst with the new options.
[08:37] <bruenig> Tangee, just change the hd (0,2) to hd (0,1) right
[08:37] <Tangee> i can type in exactly what i have in my menu.lst and it will boot
[08:37] <xtknight> Dreamxtreme, please use pastebin next time.  to fix your problem, `sudo apt-get install build-essential`
[08:37] <Tangee> i have changed that bruenig
[08:38] <bruenig> hm
[08:38] <sanityx> cables, And if I just delete quiet, I'll get the status messages in a little box in the corner?
[08:38] <cables> sanityx, the reason the line is commented is that it's not supposed to be used by Grub, but it does get read by update-grub
[08:38] <cables> sanityx, I guess, I don't know for sure.
[08:38] <Vaalth> hey, i just installed ubuntu on my laptop and i use a usb ethernet adpater
[08:38] <cables> sanityx, hold on a sec
[08:38] <xtknight> !pastebin | Dreamxtreme
[08:38] <ubotu> Dreamxtreme: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:38] <Vaalth> anyone know how to get that to work?
[08:38] <sanityx> cables, Cool, I appreciate your help.
[08:38] <Tangee> if i run grub from terminal in ubuntu and type root (hd and hit tab it wont autocomplete...
[08:38] <AlexC_> xtknight: I think we've established he needs to use a pastebin,
[08:38] <TSWoodV> Hi, all!  What's the Ubuntu way of adding adding a non-default static route?  The GUI tools don't support it.  And there's no Fedora-like /etc/sysconfig/network similarity that I can detect.
[08:38] <etnoy> is there a way to debug the hibernation in Ubuntu? it used to work, but now it fails in the hibernation phase (all suspend scripts have been run)
[08:38] <bruenig> usb ethernet is unlikely
[08:38] <xtknight> AlexC_, not sure that he got the message thru all that spam
[08:39] <etnoy> and I have to hard-reset my laptop (IBM T30
[08:39] <AlexC_> xtknight: I see,
[08:39] <TSWoodV> I've seen references to creating an /etc/init.d entry with the static route info put in there.  That seems kludgey.
[08:39] <Vaalth> bruenig : it wont work in ubuntu? i dont have a built-in ethernet card so i have to use it
[08:39] <Tangee> and if i type root (hd0,1) i get Error 21: Selected disk does not exist
[08:39] <cables> sanityx, if you want to test new options, you can temporarily change them from within the Grub menu. Just highlight what you want to boot, hit E, go to the kernel line, hit E again, edit it, and hit b to boot. Once you know those options work, then you can change menu.lst
[08:39] <soundray> Vaalth: find out the manufacturer and chipset with lsusb, then search the web.
[08:39] <soundray> Vaalth: I'll help if you let me know what you find.
[08:39] <sanityx> cables, nice, thanks for your help man.
[08:39] <Vaalth> ty soundray
[08:39] <Dreamxtrem1> its on the pastebin cheers
[08:40] <AlexC_> Dreamxtrem1: post a link here is what you need to do now,
[08:40] <cables> sanityx, no problem. But be sure to make a copy of menu.lst in case things get screwed up. Then you can restore the backup from a LiveCD like Knoppix if things go wrong
[08:40] <Dreamxtrem1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10227/
[08:40] <cables> ah, he's gone
[08:40] <jamison_> does it have to be a stand alone exe?
[08:41] <D--> Anyone know how long it usually takes posts to the HOWTO forum to get approved? :)
[08:41] <IB234> I'm running ubuntu 6.1, have onboard GeForce 6100 graphics and I've just spent about 4 hours trying to get the drivers installed with no luck, anyone fancy giving me a hand?
[08:41] <cables> IB234, sure
[08:41] <TheDebugger> It's 6.10 :)
[08:41] <cables> IB234, have you followed the instructions on the wiki?
[08:41] <AlexC_> D--: #ubuntuforums
[08:41] <cables> !nvidia | IB234
[08:41] <ubotu> IB234: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:41] <D--> oh
[08:41] <IB234> nice one, i'll take a look :)
[08:42] <D--> didn't realize there was a separate one
[08:42] <AlexC_> D--: afaik it's an unofficial channel for the forums,
[08:42] <OuZo> anybody used the "planner" tool? i need a bit of help with it. thanks
[08:42] <Dreamxtrem1> what do u reckon xtknight
[08:42] <soundray> OuZo: I've tried it. What's the issue?
[08:42] <AlexC_> !anyone | OuZo
[08:43] <ubotu> OuZo: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:43] <jamison_> how do you install stuff in wine
[08:43] <ph8> ardchoille: thanks!
[08:43] <AlexC_> jamison_: double click on the exe as you would normally, or go to terminal and do "wine /path/to/install.exe"
[08:43] <xtknight> Dreamxtrem1, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:43] <Checkka> How can I kill zombie processes?  Or find out their zombies?
[08:43] <Checkka> theyre*
[08:43] <OuZo> soundray: i want to add a predesessor to a task, but i get this error & dont know how to fix it
[08:43] <OuZo>  > You cannot add a relationship to a task with a Must Start On constraint. <
[08:43] <D--> jamison: run wine /path/to/install/file
[08:43] <xtknight> Checkka, pstree -G and kill the parent process of the zombie
[08:44] <PingFloyd> zombie process is already dead
[08:44] <D--> this will install the application to ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files or wherever it ends up going
[08:44] <OldGeezer> dell gx1 crystal onboard audio does it work with ubuntu at all??? Yes I tried the audio TS page in the forums
[08:44] <D--> If you're using GNOME, it will add an entry to open it in your top-left menu
[08:45] <karl-erik> !gameinfo
[08:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gameinfo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <[BTF] Chm0d> I'm back from the game!
[08:45] <soundray> OuZo: what happens when you edit the task properties and try to lift the "Must Start On" constraint?
[08:45] <Dreamxtrem1> yo xtknight
[08:46] <Dreamxtrem1> did u see it
[08:46] <xtknight> Dreamxtrem1, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:46] <soundray> OuZo: I think the option is in General-Schedule -- change it to "As soon as possible"
[08:46] <Tangee> so how come i can load ubuntu from command line grub with root (hd0,1) but that comand from terminal grub is error 21?
[08:46] <jamison_> it says that it cant open to create the directory c:\windows\temp\asdasda access is denied
[08:46] <karl-erik> Hi. I downloaded ndiswrapper, but I have no idea how I make the makefile. I tried sudo make /directory/Makefile, but doesn't help. Any idea what I can do?
[08:46] <Centaur5> Is there a fairly easy way to create a server that will can hold all the updates for the most common applications so client machines don't have to download everything?
[08:47] <OuZo> soundray: thanks, it was a mistake on my part
[08:47] <xtknight> Centaur5, debian repository?  not sure about easy though
[08:47] <soundray> karl-erik: ndiswrapper is in the repositories. Install it from there
[08:47] <snedar> hi! I installed, used and removed gtk2-engines-gtk-qt, and now all gtk applications that I run as root (like synaptic) are shown in gtk's ugly default theme instead of Human. how do I fix the root user's gtk settings?
[08:47] <fdsasdf> I'm a ;linux noob, ive downloaded network manager on windows, put it on a usb stick and put it on  my ubuntu desktop. How do i install it from there?
[08:47] <Dreamxtrem1> is that a command soz im really a linux noob with 1daze exp
[08:47] <Checkka> How can I tell if the process is a zombie? Is it just floating in the tree without any links?
[08:47] <Centaur5> xtknight: haha, would it be worth it?
[08:47] <karl-erik> Repositories?
[08:47] <jamison_> anyone know how to get around when wine says it says that it cant open to create the directory c:\windows\temp\asdasda access is denied
[08:47] <xtknight> !repositories | karl-erik
[08:47] <ubotu> karl-erik: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:47] <jamison_> while trying to install
[08:47] <xtknight> Centaur5, i'd think so
[08:47] <soundray> ubotu, please tell karl-erik about software
[08:47] <sanityx> cables, Hey man, removing quiet but leaving splash worked great. I get the status messages with the prrty splash screen :-D
[08:48] <karl-erik> Thanks.
[08:48] <Centaur5> xtknight: Wouldn't it help the servers save money on bandwidth?
[08:48] <Checkka> !software > karl-erik
[08:48] <xtknight> Centaur5, i don't see how
[08:48] <IdleOne> fdsasdf, sudo spkg -i package.name
[08:48] <sanityx> So, is the splash screen actually compiled into the Kernel or something?
[08:48] <IdleOne> fdsasdf, sudo dpkg -i package.name
[08:48] <cables> sanityx, great
[08:48] <xtknight> i think splash is in initrd or something
[08:48] <cables> !usplash
[08:48] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[08:48] <Centaur5> xtknight: So I need to search for a howto on creating a debian repository?
[08:48] <cables> i guess that didn't help :)
[08:48] <fdsasdf> thanks ill try that brb
[08:48] <xtknight> Centaur5, yup
[08:48] <Dreamxtrem1> xtknight do i put that in terminal
[08:48] <Checkka> !zombie
[08:49] <Centaur5> xtknight: Okay, thanks.
[08:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zombie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:49] <xtknight> Dreamxtrem1, yes
[08:49] <Dreamxtrem1> cheers
[08:49] <Dreamxtrem1> l8er
[08:49] <hosk> yay i'm registered
[08:50] <IdleOne> hosk, what you gonna do with all that power now? :P
[08:50] <Jetfighter> Help. How do I SVN Checkout?
[08:50] <soundray> ubotu, tell Jetfighter about subversion
[08:50] <xtknight> Jetfighter, "svn co path-to-repo"
[08:51] <rosivaldo> hi... i'm looking for the apt-proxy irc channel suport... does anyone know where is the server?
[08:51] <hosk> IdleOne, probably idle here until i gain reputation
[08:51] <Jetfighter> Whats path-to-repo? The site?
[08:51] <xtknight> Jetfighter, example of what you're trying to checkout?
[08:51] <Jetfighter> i gotta find it, then i tell
[08:51] <IdleOne> hosk, gonna need to more then idle for that and besides that's my job
[08:51] <xtknight> Jetfighter, almost always they give you the full command line of what you need to do
[08:51] <moeru> I'm trying to install the 8.34.8 ATI drivers. When I do "sh ati-driver-installer-8.34.8-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/edgy" I get command not found
[08:52] <jamison_> how do you open the rot file manager
[08:52] <Jetfighter> Well, I would, but I lost the link since last night
[08:52] <jamison_> root*
[08:52] <hosk> IdleOne, damn. well, maybe I'll try answering some questions!
[08:52] <soundray> jamison_: gksudo nautilus
[08:52] <IdleOne> jamison_, gksu nautilus
[08:53] <Jetfighter> http://svn.freenode.net/hyperion/branches/bugfix-2006-11/ I need to check a file out from there
[08:53] <Galga> hi, firefox just crashed on my box. An option to report a bug has popped up, saying 10.8mb to be sent as a complete report. Problem is, there is no submit or send button. What should i do ?
[08:53] <bassir> How come the text in my firefox browser in Edgy Eft is so not-smooth?
[08:54] <snedar> is there a way to speed up 'logging in' when opening an xterm window? it takes about a second now, but I think my pc should be able to do it immediately
[08:54] <Galga> should I close that report a bug window ?
[08:54] <xtknight> Jetfighter, "svn checkout http://svn.freenode.net/hyperion/branches bugfix-2006-11" afaik
[08:54] <genii> snedar You find 1 second is an interminable wait?
[08:55] <braniff> when did ubuntu 6.10 come out ??
[08:55] <snedar> gnii: I don't, but I wonder whether it's configurable
[08:55] <xtknight> !edgy
[08:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[08:55] <Jetfighter> With quotes?
[08:55] <IdleOne> braniff, 6=year .10=mont
[08:55] <xtknight> Jetfighter, no
[08:55] <IdleOne> *month
[08:55] <braniff> thanks
[08:55] <hosk> is there a way to subscribe to ubuntu mailing lists, or do i have to be super special?
[08:55] <IdleOne> no problem
[08:55] <Jetfighter> bash: svn: command not found
[08:55] <xtknight> Jetfighter, sudo apt-get install svn
[08:56] <snedar> Jetfigher: sudo apt-get install subversion (I think)
[08:56] <jrib> subversion for teh tie-breaker
[08:56] <Galga> anyone ?
[08:56] <trond> I have a problem with a clean install of ubuntu 6.10 edgy. All kde programs crashes (amarok, kaffeine etc.). Giving this error message in the terminal:  DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-5350' to 'kded'
[08:56] <trond> kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.
[08:56] <trond> DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-5339' to 'kaffeine'
[08:56] <trond> ERROR: Communication problem with kaffeine, it probably crashed.
[08:56] <moeru> Is there a way to find out what version of the fglrx driver I'm running?
[08:56] <genii> snedar If you have a swap partition at least the size of your RAM use suspend to ram
[08:56] <gortba> Hi. Does anyone know if there a way to get song information like track title, album title etc... in rhythmbox
[08:56] <xtknight> moeru, fglrxinfo ?
[08:56] <Jetfighter> E: Couldn't find package svn
[08:56] <xtknight> Jetfighter, subversion
[08:56] <PriceChild> Jetfighter, I don't recommend you use subversion repositories yet.
[08:56] <braniff> i'm about to install ubuntu 6.10 on two machines...is there an easy way to upgrade when the next release comes out next month ??
[08:56] <moeru> comes up with Mesa drivers but when I do apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx it says I'm on the latest version
[08:56] <PriceChild> !upgrade | braniff
[08:56] <ubotu> braniff: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:57] <Jetfighter> PriceChild, I am setting up an IRC server, I need that to get files that I need.
[08:57] <xtknight> would this be right for checking out http://svn.freenode.net/hyperion/branches bugfix-2006-11  ?    `svn checkout http://svn.freenode.net/hyperion/branches bugfix-2006-11`
[08:57] <oopsy> http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html
[08:57] <oopsy> fi I install
[08:57] <Anabelle> hey, i just installed kubuntu 6.06, i want to upgrade to edgy now, but i first ran adept update and its telling me to download 260MB first, are all the actualizations necesary before upgrading or can i remove some to reduce time of download?
[08:57] <oopsy> if I install
[08:57] <oopsy> the drivers to ralink from here
[08:57] <oopsy> http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html
[08:57] <xtknight> http://svn.freenode.net/hyperion/branches/bugfix-2006-11   *  on the first thing
[08:57] <oopsy> we'll I get a neat GUI?
[08:57] <nate_> a quick question guys.  how do I enable ssl support in kubuntu?
[08:57] <Jetfighter> ?
[08:57] <oopsy> will*
[08:57] <snedar> genii: I don't think that's what I'm looking for? I want to be able to open xterm windows quickly, suspend-to-ram sounds like suspending the pc and restoring the session immediately
[08:57] <sanityx> Anabelle, Out of curiosity, what are actualizations?
[08:57] <Anabelle> mmm upgadable packages
[08:58] <oopsy> anyone?
[08:58] <Anabelle> upgradable**
[08:58] <fdsasdf> Idleone i tried that by putting "sudo dpkg -i package./home/(myusername)/desktop/networkmanager-0.6.4/ but it didnt work
[08:58] <trond> None has a clue?
[08:58] <nate_> anyone.. ssl on ubuntu?
[08:58] <AlexC_> No, no one has a clue.
[08:58] <IdleOne> Anabelle, if asdept wants to update those packages then you should let it
[08:58] <genii> snedar Yes, that is the basic idea. As for how long it takes to load, the bottleneck is normally the hardware. eg: HD fetch time and so on.
[08:58] <soundray> Anabelle: make sure your system is up to date before you upgrade
[08:59] <hosk> i answered my own question: https://lists.ubuntu.com
[08:59] <Anabelle> i did this process with another pc yesterday and i ended up downloading open office (huge) twice
[08:59] <xtknight> trond, if you do NOT use Kubuntu, do this: "sudo rm -rf ~/.kde"  this should only be done on regular gnome ubuntu.  it should fix the problem
[08:59] <AlexC_> trond: just say you're question next time instead of just going "no one has a clue?" people are not going to go hunting up an down trying to find your question,
[08:59] <trond> ok sorry
[08:59] <IdleOne> fdsasdf, just sudo dpkg -i network-manager.deb ( or whatever the package name is ) it will install to default location dont provide a path
[08:59] <Anabelle> soundray what may happen if i dont? are all packages absolutly necesary?? i dont have a very fast connection, and it takes tooo much to update my system
[08:59] <trond> xtknight: thanks, will see if that solves the problem
[08:59] <PingFloyd> snedar: use a lighter term
[08:59] <trond> I am using edgy 6.10
[08:59] <PingFloyd> snedar: like aterm
[09:00] <xtknight> trond, actually the command may need to be "sudo rm -rf /home/trond/.kde"  (if trond is the user)
[09:00] <fdsasdf> ok thankyou idleone :)
[09:00] <xtknight> would 'sudo rm ~/asdf' point to /root/asdf or /home/user/asdf?
[09:00] <OuZo> were can i get pygtk from? its not in the repos?
[09:00] <snedar> PingFloyd: thanks, will try that one
[09:00] <Galga> is there any way to report a bug in version 6.10 ?
[09:00] <IB234> cheers! think it's sorted now.
[09:00] <soundray> Anabelle: it seems wasteful, but there's no other way.
[09:00] <xtknight> OuZo, pygtk is AKA as python gtk bindings
[09:00] <gubluntu> How do i get my server to consult localhost running bind9 for an answer on a A record query? (i.e. i am behind a firewall and my postfix cant deliver mail to iself using an external address, so i need it to return an internal one locally)
[09:00] <AlexC_> !launchpad | Galga
[09:00] <ubotu> Galga: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[09:00] <xtknight> !launchpad | Galga
[09:00] <PingFloyd> snedar: what term you currently using?
[09:00] <AlexC_> xtknight: :P
[09:00] <OuZo> xtknight: thanks
[09:00] <soundray> Anabelle: systems tend to break if you don't update before you upgrade
[09:01] <Galga> ok thanks
[09:01] <snedar> genii: also thanks, I'll look into it
[09:01] <snedar> PingFloyd: xterm
[09:01] <xtknight> OuZo,  apt-cache search pygtk
[09:01] <trond> xtknight: still get the error after deleting .kde :\
[09:01] <braniff> where can i get a "feisty fawn" 7.04 iso ??
[09:01] <genii> snedar yw
[09:01] <Anabelle> I thought about skipping open office upgrade, if it will be more than 100MB less and it will be downloaded later
[09:01] <PingFloyd> snedar: xterm isn't usually too bad, but aterm is pretty zippy
[09:01] <xtknight> trond, did you use sudo rm /home/trond/.kde or the ~/.kde thing?
[09:01] <soundray> braniff: /join #ubuntu+1 and read the topic
[09:01] <Anabelle> am i wrong?
[09:01] <AlexC_> braniff: You do know Feisty is in heavy development
[09:01] <IdleOne> !herd5 | braniff
[09:01] <ubotu> braniff: To download Feisty Fawn Herd 5, visit http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/herd-5/ - read the release notes at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd5, and consider doing the tests at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing
[09:01] <xtknight> trond, i think ~/.kde points to /root/kde and that's not what you needto delete.  you need to delete /home/trond/.kde
[09:01] <vicks> hi, my feisty hangs while booting. it hangs on loading bluetooth services, ot whatever it is called. anyone knows what this can be about?
[09:01] <snedar> PingFloyd: just tried aterm, but it seems to start up as fast as xterm. I guess starting up the shell takes a second, and I'm wondering whether that's done intentionally (to stop fake logins or something)
[09:02] <braniff> thanks guys
[09:02] <AlexC_> vicks: do you know Feisty is under heavy development?
[09:02] <preaction> vicks: #ubuntu+1 would be a better place to ask about feisty
[09:02] <OuZo> xtknight: looks like i have it already... im trying to build "gtk-recordmydesktop" from source
[09:02] <PingFloyd> snedar: how are you invoking it?
[09:02] <xtknight> OuZo, python-gtk2-dev - GTK+ bindings: devel files
[09:02] <genii> Anabelle It is nothing crucial that must be applied immediately. you can defer it
[09:02] <xtknight> OuZo, -dev for compiles
[09:02] <OuZo> xtknight: thanks
[09:02] <snedar> PingFloyd: currently with alt+`, but that's the same as doing alt+f2 and typing 'xterm' (in gnome)
[09:02] <trond> xtknight: I did a sudo rm -rf /home/trond/.kde
[09:02] <Anabelle> defer? you mean i can skip openoffice genii ?
[09:03] <vicks> AlexC_: yeah. preaction: yeah, i asked there but the channel was pretty dead, i was hoping anyone here could help me
[09:03] <techie_> !bash
[09:03] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:03] <hccmb> hello there
[09:03] <xtknight> quick question: would 'sudo rm ~/asdf' point to /root/asdf or /home/user/asdf?
[09:03] <genii> Anabelle The update, yes
[09:03] <aesiamun> hello.
[09:03] <Anabelle> :D great
[09:03] <hccmb> how do i get mplayer to see the skins in installed..
[09:03] <soundray> Anabelle: genii obviously hasn't followed the whole conversation
[09:03] <aesiamun> xtknight: it would be /home/user/asdf
[09:03] <xtknight> aesiamun, thanks
[09:03] <AlexC_> vicks: that's ok then. Just I've seen like 7-8 people using Feisty and complaing when it doesn't work - not knowing it was under development.
[09:03] <genii> soundray Is it a dist-updrage?
[09:03] <Anabelle> now im scared...
[09:03] <lefty> does anyone know any of the advantages of the freespire/ubuntu agreement?, just seems kinda pointless to me.
[09:03] <genii> *dist-upgrade* rather
[09:03] <PingFloyd> snedar: if you're not invoking it as a login shell, I'm not sure why it would be delaying
[09:03] <AlexC_> lefty: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:03] <xtknight> trond, hmm sorry i'm not sure how to fix it
[09:04] <xtknight> !dcop
[09:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dcop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:04] <hosk> is anybody on the ubuntu-devel mailing list
[09:04] <benfindlay> hi guys
[09:04] <soundray> genii: Anabelle wants to upgrade to edgy from dapper and hopes to skip the update-dapper step
[09:04] <faceface> ach... this is annoying... network manager only connects to my wireless network every 1 time in 10
[09:04] <aesiamun> hosk: as of last night, i am.
[09:04] <Anabelle> not the whole update dappr
[09:04] <Anabelle> just the open office files wich are the biggest
[09:04] <hosk> aesiamun, how much email do you get a day?
[09:04] <faceface> I can't get it to connect reliably ... WPA-PSK TKIP
[09:04] <aesiamun> i think i got three today.
[09:04] <vicks> AlexC_: yeah, luckily ubuntu has a quite friendly irc
[09:05] <snedar> PingFloyd: me neither :-) it's not very important anyway, I was just wondering why my pc (athlon 3000+) couldn't do that faster...
[09:05] <genii> soundray Aaaaaah
[09:05] <braniff> faceface, maybe your wireless signal is not strong enough?
[09:05] <xtknight> heh the kernel mailing list is another story :P
[09:05] <Anabelle> i will still upgrade all the other packages (about 150MB)
[09:05] <aesiamun> hosk: let me double check
[09:05] <soothsay> Does anybody here use Gnu Screen?
[09:05] <faceface> braniff, I think it is fine... another client here is working fine
[09:05] <AlexC_> !anyone | soothsay
[09:05] <ubotu> soothsay: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:05] <lefty> gnu screen is awesome
[09:05] <faceface> ubotu, will you help me if I do?
[09:05] <lefty> i use it to reconnect to my home pc from work
[09:06] <genii> Anabelle You should do all of them at once when you do upgrades from a major dist to the next of the actual OS
[09:06] <AlexC_> faceface: Ubotu is a bot.
[09:06] <soothsay> Okay, does anyone get an annoying nag message when starting screen?
[09:06] <faceface> ah
[09:06] <Jetfighter> checking build system type... Invalid configuration `with': machine `with' not recognized
[09:06] <Jetfighter> configure: error: /bin/bash build-misc/config.sub with failed
[09:06] <Jetfighter>  Help please?
[09:06] <soundray> AlexC_: don't give it away so soon ;)
[09:06] <gubluntu> ubotu tell faceface about ubotu
[09:06] <faceface> no point trying to annoy him then
[09:06] <hosk> lawlercopters?
[09:06] <Anabelle> ok, i'll be patient then
[09:06] <faceface> gubluntu, are you real?
[09:06] <IdleOne> Anabelle, best time to do a dist-upgrade is late night when your ISP has the least amount of traffic. as for the updates/upgrades Adept wants to do I think you should do them and then do your dist-upgrade. you can always remove OpenOffice later
[09:06] <AlexC_> soundray: well how are we suppose to help if someone just goes "Does anyone use foo?" ... we ca'n.t
[09:06] <Jetfighter> !bot | faceface
[09:06] <ubotu> faceface: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:06] <aesiamun> hosk: since midnight EST i have received 3 emails from it.
[09:06] <Jetfighter> Wtf?
[09:06] <gubluntu> faceface, i hope so...
[09:06] <AlexC_> soundray: oh you mean the bot thing :P
[09:06] <Anabelle> thanks i just hoped OpenOffice  updates wont be crucial
[09:06] <faceface> hehe
[09:07] <lefty> isn;t a nag screen an advertising thing?
[09:07] <aesiamun> so I ran upgrade on feisty, and woot there goes my gnome desktop.
[09:07] <Anabelle> i still think you don't quite get me :( is there a spanish channel?
[09:07] <xtknight> aesiamun, i just updated feisty a sec ago.   am i also screwed?
[09:07] <genii> Anabelle If you are only doing a maintenance-type update then it is usually fine to defer some if they are huge. This is where I got confused and need to remove foot from mouth etc etc
[09:07] <soundray> aesiamun: get help in #ubuntu+1 please
[09:07] <hosk> aesiamun, thanks. i'm considering subscribing and maybe learning a think or two about distro development. it's encouraging to know it won't flood my inbox in a day
[09:07] <genii> soundray :)
[09:07] <IdleOne> aesiamun, join #ubuntu+1
[09:07] <Jetfighter> !sp | Anabelle
[09:07] <ubotu> anabelle: sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-47 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 564 kB
[09:07] <aesiamun> soundray: i'm not asking for help...
[09:07] <jamison_> anyone know how to get around when wine says it says that it cant open to create the directory c:\windows\temp\asdasda access is denied
[09:07] <PingFloyd> boy, this channel is busy
[09:07] <Jetfighter> Oops >.<
[09:07] <aesiamun> just sounding off.
[09:07] <soothsay> lefty: It's not adverting exactly, it says I should have received a copy of the GPL
[09:07] <lefty> who's the best show here.......
[09:07] <jumbers> How would I be able to make my Ubuntu terminal more colorized? It seems like the only color in my terminal is when I do ls. I'm asking because I'm comparing it to my Gentoo SSH terminal.
[09:07] <soundray> aesiamun: you're still offtopic
[09:08] <aesiamun> am I?
[09:08] <xtknight> jumbers, Edit->Current Profile
[09:08] <soothsay> lefty: *Every* time I start screen. I have to hit space or enter to dismiss it
[09:08] <AlexC_> aesiamun: yers,
[09:08] <jamison_> when i click on an exe in the ubuntu file browser it will not open with wine
[09:08] <pikk> heya
[09:08] <aesiamun> interesting how a mention of ubuntu is offtop in #ubuntu.
[09:08] <jamison_> when i do it in wine file browser it will
[09:08] <faceface> aesiamun, get on topic now!
[09:08] <preaction> aesiamun: Fiesty is for #ubuntu+1. Edgy is the current release
[09:08] <IdleOne> aesiamun, yes . talk about Feisty detracts from the goal of #ubuntu ( supporting Dapper and Edgy )
[09:08] <xtknight> jamison_, rephrase your question perhaps: how do i associate a .EXE with the 'wine' command?  actually i don't know myself.
[09:08] <faceface> support?
[09:08] <lefty> soothsay: i don't know of anyway to get rid of that but i have experienced it
[09:08] <pikk> can anyone help me? i'm looking for some kind of explenation on the kvoctrain
[09:08] <soundray> aesiamun: the f word is offtopic here ;)
[09:08] <Jetfighter> jamison_, Terminal, wine program.exe
[09:08] <xtknight> where does linux store magic/mime/associations?
[09:08] <Anabelle> is there a spanish support channel on IRC?
[09:09] <optilab> hello i'm having big trouble with edgy and a P5W dh ... Anyone went through that here?
[09:09] <xtknight> !es | Anabelle
[09:09] <ubotu> Anabelle: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:09] <PriceChild> !es | Anabelle
[09:09] <aesiamun> faceface: i sincerely hope you were joking. :)
[09:09] <jumbers> xtknight: That just lets me change the default color. Let me show you what I mean with a screen shot. 1 moment
[09:09] <aesiamun> soundray: ok now i know :)  thanks.
[09:09] <Anabelle> yhanks
[09:09] <IdleOne> !es | Anabelle
[09:09] <soothsay> lefty: You have occasionally experienced it or always?
[09:09] <faceface> aesiamun, yeah
[09:09] <faceface> aesiamun, about what?
[09:09] <preaction> xtknight: /etc/files or /etc/mime or something, read "man file" it should have the filename in there
[09:09] <snedar> is there a search function in irssi, so that I can find some text in this chat?
[09:09] <PriceChild> aesiamun, #ubuntu is for support on breezy/dapper/edgy only. #ubuntu-offtopic explains itself. #ubuntu+1 is for feisty
[09:09] <aesiamun> faceface: telling me to get on topic "now"...
[09:09] <lefty> soothsay: always, i think theres a gnu screen irc somewhere
[09:09] <soundray> !es > Anabelle
[09:09] <xtknight>  /etc/magic
[09:09] <soothsay> snedr: /lastlog
[09:09] <lefty> soothsay: they'll be more help than i am
[09:09] <faceface> aesiamun, this is ubuntu afterall!
[09:09] <PriceChild> aesiamun, faceface lets end it there please
[09:09] <jumbers> xtknight: http://img.jnumbers.com/color_terminal.png
[09:10] <faceface> PriceChild, done
[09:10] <bytecolor> does .bash_profile _not_ get read when I log into ubuntu through the default gui?
[09:10] <snedar> soothsay: thanks!
[09:10] <xtknight> jamison_, isn't there an option to do Open With and always use 'wine' command
[09:10] <soothsay> lefty: Yeah, the thing is I don't experience it anywhere except Ubuntu
[09:10] <moonwatcher> i am not sure if thats the right place to "complaint" about this, but on the latest fiesty (did an apt-get upgrade, just now) it seems that opening eclipse cause the whole thing to slow down concideribly and be quite stuttering...
[09:10] <PriceChild> bytecolor, i had that annoyance too... .bashrc does though
[09:10] <xtknight> jamison_, like in windows..
[09:10] <jamison_> yeah
[09:10] <jumbers> xtknight: See how SAL ~# is a different color?
[09:10] <aesiamun> ok i apologize for mentioning the f word.
[09:10] <jamison_> but it wont open
[09:10] <xtknight> jumbers, hrm, yeah...
[09:10] <Flannel> moonwatcher: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support, thanks
[09:10] <soundray> bytecolor: no, neither does .bashrc afaik
[09:10] <faceface> face?
[09:10] <lefty> soothsay: so youve tried it on other distros without this nag??
[09:10] <pikk> hello?
[09:10] <moonwatcher> k
[09:10] <soothsay> Does
[09:10] <jamison_> when i go through the wine file manger it will
[09:11] <soothsay> lefty: Doesn't happen on Fedora
[09:11] <soothsay> lefty: Or Gentoo
[09:11] <pikk> hello anyone there who's ever worked with kvoc?
[09:11] <jumbers> xtknight: Should I go ask at #gentoo what causes their bash to do that and see if I can enable whatever it is on Ubuntu?
[09:11] <lefty> soothsay: hmmmm..... that is odd, there must be a workaround, i'll go and research
[09:11] <xtknight> jumbers, copy over the color settings for gnome terminal from your gentoo?
[09:11] <AlexC_> moonwatcher: you do understand Feisty is under development and not to be used everyday
[09:11] <xtknight> jumbers, maybe it's in some bash file
[09:11] <soothsay> lefty: It's okay, don't worry about it. I'll do the research
[09:12] <faceface> will network manager remember my connection details when it connects correctly?
[09:12] <bytecolor> christ, I _know_ .bash_profile was being read before because I was using the supplied test for ~/bin
[09:12] <AlexC_> faceface: I should think so,
[09:12] <lefty> soothsay: okay, i'll still take a look myself though, i've noticed the problem too on mybox
[09:12] <bytecolor> and ~/bin was being added to my PATH, but not now...
[09:12] <gubluntu> *UBUNTU ROX MY SOX*
[09:12] <xtknight> jumbers, copy .bashrc over?
[09:12] <faceface> AlexC_, in that case I don't think it connected right yet :(
[09:12] <faceface> keeps asking me for passwd
[09:12] <jrib> bytecolor: something else must have been sourcing it
[09:12] <Flannel> lefty, soothsay, sorry, came in half way, what nag with regard to screen?
[09:13] <AlexC_> faceface: I've never used it so I could be wrong,
[09:13] <TheVault> Which option do I choose if I wanna install Beryl on a Intel Chipset GFX Card? I'm curious to see how Beryl works and things but I'm not sure which option to go with XGL or AIGLX
[09:13] <faceface> how can I test the connection on the cli
[09:13] <PriceChild> bytecolor, are you on feisty?
[09:13] <Dreamxtreme> im back got some more i went to make all and this happened http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10236/
[09:13] <optilab> anyone had trouble with jmicron and 975x?
[09:13] <jrib> bytecolor: use .xprofile or .xsession  or something like that
[09:13] <bytecolor> jrib, nod... PriceChild no
[09:13] <AlexC_> TheVault: AIGLX I think,
[09:13] <xtknight> optilab, i have trouble with jmicron and 965p
[09:13] <hccmb> any one here using mplayer?
[09:13] <optilab> hey!
[09:13] <faceface> hccmb, yup
[09:13] <TheVault> AlexC: Thanks, I'll try that
[09:13] <AlexC_> !anyone | hccmb
[09:13] <ubotu> hccmb: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:13] <xtknight> optilab, also plenty of experience fixing c2d issues..whats up?
[09:13] <hccmb> ok, how does your dir look like where the skins are?
[09:13] <optilab> xtknight, you got a P5B?
[09:13] <bytecolor> jrib, .bashrc still works fine for non-logins
[09:13] <faceface> ubotu, change the record!
[09:13] <bassir> Hello all. I'm having a problem with Synaptic. :(
[09:13] <hccmb> and how is it named ? where is it?
[09:13] <lefty> flannel: when starting screen, i get a message about the gpl, unsure what it is and if theres anyway to stop getting it
[09:13] <jrib> bytecolor: right
[09:13] <bytecolor> hrm, wonder what was sourcing .bash_profile
[09:13] <xtknight> optilab, gigabyte 965p-ds3.  p5b is the one with the bad ACPI tables that needed a bios update isnt it?
[09:13] <faceface> hccmb, ah... not gmplayer
[09:14] <faceface> I only use cli 'mplayer'
[09:14] <fdsasdf> there isnt a .deb file idleone
[09:14] <lefty> flannel: only seems to happen on ubuntu though, sootsay says he doesn't get it on fedora or gentoo
[09:14] <soundray> bytecolor: at one point, the default .bashrc was sourcing .bash_profile
[09:14] <xtknight> hccmb, /usr/share/mplayer/skins/
[09:14] <faceface> hccmb, I never set up skins correctly here
[09:14] <xtknight> hccmb, mine has nothing in it atm
[09:14] <hccmb> thnx
[09:14] <bassir> When I open it, I get "The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences."
[09:14] <bytecolor> soundray, oh?
[09:14] <VeganChick> is there a good place to look for instructions on how to customize ubuntu?
[09:14] <xtknight> hccmb, they are also in ~/.mplayer/skins (or can be)
[09:14] <dimeotane> whats the difference between a .deb file in the ubuntu repository and one in the debian repositories?
[09:14] <moreati> evenin all, I'm seeing something quite odd in gnome-system-monitor I'm seeing high (15-60%) CPU usage - by gnome-system-monitor. Has anyone else ever seen this? Is there a known bug or problem with gsm?
[09:15] <faceface> dimeotane, one smells funny
[09:15] <optilab> xtknight,  well i got the p5w , managed to install edgy with usb2 desactivated and jmicron too, (it seems there share irq10) but now i can log in but nothing happens, no freeze but no message nor desktop
[09:15] <PriceChild> dimeotane, debian repos are built for debian... ubuntu repos built for ubuntu
[09:15] <Dreamxtreme> xtknight: ????
[09:15] <xtknight> dimeotane, none, really.  .deb is the same file format.  however, the one from the debian repositories may have different C runtime requirements and other package requirements.  you should not attempt to install a .deb from a debian repo to your ubuntu install unless you know what you're doing
[09:15] <faceface> moreati, its not unusual
[09:15] <xtknight> Dreamxtreme, ?? what happened after buildessenti..?
[09:15] <dimeotane> PriceChild:  so their repositories cant be used in ubuntu?
[09:15] <bytecolor> soundray, but that would have put it in an infinite loop as .bash_profile checks for .bashrc :)
[09:15] <moreati> dimeotane: one is customised for ubuntu, the other for debian. It's best not to install debian debs on Ubuntu
[09:15] <Dreamxtreme> i did make config fine but i went to make all and i got this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10236/
[09:15] <faceface> dimeotane, mixing repos can be problematic
[09:16] <Kikkoman> Pardon
[09:16] <Kikkoman> Can I burn Ubuntu to a DVD?
[09:16] <xtknight> optilab, odd.  what do you mean you can "log in" fine though?  login where?  virtual term?  gdm?
[09:16] <xtknight> Kikkoman, yes
[09:16] <Kikkoman> :D
[09:16] <xtknight> Kikkoman, there are ubuntu dvds available
[09:16] <soundray> bytecolor: I could be remembering my Debian days, though
[09:16] <faceface> dimeotane, but not necessarily bad
[09:16] <Kikkoman> Do I have to do something special to the iso?
[09:16] <xtknight> Kikkoman, as for burning an ubuntu cd to a dvd that may also be possible, just not sure
[09:16] <Kikkoman> ah
[09:16] <frojnd> how do I check if apache is running ?
[09:16] <faceface> frojnd, apachctl status
[09:16] <karl-erik_> Hi. Can anyone tell me how I use the 'make'-command and what it does?
[09:16] <moreati> faceface: frankly, I'm shocked and disappointed. top doesn't suffer from it.
[09:16] <xtknight> Kikkoman, ubuntu dvd http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/release/
[09:16] <faceface> or telnet localhost:80
[09:16] <bytecolor> well... jrib thanks for the hint maybe I can track it down
[09:16] <hosk> can i install beryl on top of gnome and have it magically work? and do i have to add another apt-get server to find it?
[09:16] <beoba> hey, does feisty lack support for PPC?
[09:17] <xtknight> beoba, fesity should support the ppc arch
[09:17] <faceface> moreati, yeah, but gnome process thingy is much bigger
[09:17] <jbeez> Hallo, anyone know if I can use an http proxy with rhythmbox?
[09:17] <optilab> i can log in thru Xterm and gnome rescue session but any command typed does nothing
[09:17] <AlexC_> hosk: let me get a link - do you have ATI or nVIDIA carD?
[09:17] <bytecolor> frojnd, <IP_ADDRESS> in your browser
[09:17] <beoba> i noticed that the test iso's dont include PPC
[09:17] <pablo> hi! is there any way to export mails from ms outlook 2003 and import them in thunderbird installed in linux partition?
[09:17] <xtknight> beoba, i'm seeing ppc
[09:17] <beoba> where are you seeing it?
[09:17] <faceface> pablo, yes
[09:17] <optilab> xtknight, i can log in thru Xterm and gnome rescue session but any command typed does nothing
[09:17] <Jetfighter> I am now away.
[09:17] <hosk> AlexC_, hell no: i'm running edgy through vpc2007 on a laptop using a 64mb S3 card
[09:17] <sponix> is there an issue with ATI graphics chips using the regular text consoles ?
[09:17] <faceface> Jetfighter, nooo!
[09:18] <xtknight> beoba, well only up to herd4 i guess.  maybe herd5 isnt ready for ppc yet but they will have a ppc at release.
[09:18] <beoba> i was looking on some mirror last night and it had x86, x86_64, and i think spark
[09:18] <xtknight> beoba, #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[09:18] <bruenig> oh no
[09:18] <beoba> k, i'll pester them there :)
[09:18] <Checkka> how do i remove old kernels after ive updated?
[09:18] <beoba> *sparc
[09:18] <Jetfighter> ?
[09:18] <AlexC_> hosk: Not sure if it will work, but try http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu AIGLX
[09:18] <pablo> faceface: how can i do it?
[09:18] <faceface> so... does network manager work in feisty
[09:18] <sponix> my desktop with nvidia graphics does them fine, laptops with ATI video I just get a smeared screen, or a blank one, no login: when I (ctrl+alt+f1)
[09:18] <PriceChild> !away > Jetfighter
[09:18] <faceface> pablo, You have to google I am afraid
[09:18] <xtknight> optilab, that's weird
[09:18] <AlexC_> faceface: #ubuntu+1
[09:18] <bruenig> faceface, you woke him, why would you bring such horrors on the rest of us
[09:18] <Checkka> grub is showing my old kernels which i think is wasting space on my HD
[09:18] <xtknight> optilab, you mean gnome fialsafe?
[09:18] <xtknight> failsafe**
[09:18] <Jetfighter> When it's an amsg, deal with it.
[09:18] <faceface> sorry
[09:18] <optilab> xtknight,  yes
[09:19] <faceface> pablo, I am sure there is a way! Good luck!
[09:19] <xtknight> optilab, and that loads an xterm right?  and your keyboard doesnt work after that?
[09:19] <Dreamxtreme> xtknight: what do u reckon
[09:19] <AlexC_> what is it with everyone using Fesity all of a sudden???
[09:19] <optilab> xtknight,  i never saw such a system it's really weird
[09:19] <AlexC_> s/fesity/feisty
[09:19] <xtknight> Dreamxtreme, i need to see the log after using build essential dude
[09:19] <faceface> AlexC_, #ubuntu+1
[09:19] <hosk> AlexC_: I will bookmark the page and give it a shot when i'm feeling gluttonous for punishment :)
[09:19] <xtknight> optilab, what about trying with 'noacpi nolapic acpi=off noapic irqpoll'?
[09:19] <Dreamxtreme> how do i do that???
[09:19] <AlexC_> faceface: that was not a Feisty question, please don't get cocky.
[09:19] <Flannel> lefty, soothsay: Ah.  I believe... hmm.  Seems like starting it with any options (like -U, which is good anyway) gets rid of it, that's why I don't remember it,
[09:19] <faceface> cocky?
[09:19] <faceface> cock this!!!
[09:19] <OldGeezer> pablo once you drag an email to a disk or desktop it has an eml extension, all the email program does is compress it to a managable size, Linux should be able to handle an eml file
[09:19] <xtknight> Dreamxtreme, remember the 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' command i told u earlier.  type it. report what happens with ./configure
[09:19] <lilrayray> hi all, i am having some serious crashes with ubuntu (my computer randomly freezes up COMPLETELY).  Could anyone assist me in figuring out what might be the problem?  Also, does the kernel record error logs that might help diagnose the problem?
[09:19] <fdsasdf> I have downloaded network manager and put the folder on ym desktop from my usb stick. HOW DO I INSTALL IT! :( please help
[09:20] <bruenig> !caps
[09:20] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:20] <AlexC_> faceface: why do that?
[09:20] <PriceChild> faceface, steady
[09:20] <xtknight> lilrayray, core 2 duo right?
[09:20] <Dreamxtreme> k brb
[09:20] <VeganChick> what's the channel for ubuntu customization?  i think it's #something-art
[09:20] <bruenig> !info network-manager-gnome
[09:20] <ubotu> network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.3-2ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 245 kB, installed size 1608 kB
[09:20] <AlexC_> faceface:
[09:20] <faceface> fdsasdf, what form did you download it?
[09:20] <aesiamun> unstable...
[09:20] <optilab> xtknight,  kbd works i tried an apt-get update or lspci but it just does nothing
[09:20] <PriceChild> !offtopic | AlexC_ faceface
[09:20] <xtknight> lilrayray, or were u the one with the pentium D
[09:20] <ubotu> AlexC_ faceface: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:20] <PriceChild> VeganChick, #ubuntu-effects
[09:20] <lilrayray> xtknight: hi again, nope Pentium D
[09:20] <faceface> thanks PriceChild
[09:20] <fdsasdf> tar.bz2
[09:20] <xtknight> optilab, i dont know.  try the kernel parameters mentioned ealrier..noapic etc
[09:20] <faceface> fdsasdf, OK, you need to read!
[09:20] <VeganChick> thanks!
[09:20] <faceface> fdsasdf, tar zxfv
[09:21] <xtknight> lilrayray, /var/log has logs
[09:21] <pablo> OldGeezer: thanks!! i ll try
[09:21] <bruenig> fdsasdf, why dont you just install the network-manager-gnome from the repositories
[09:21] <xtknight> tip: tar xf   will extract .tar, .tar.gz and .tar bgz2
[09:21] <lilrayray> xtknight: ok, anything specific to look for in the logs?
[09:21] <fdsasdf> because it wont
[09:21] <faceface> fdsasdf, tar zxfv my.tar.bz; cd the new directory; ./configure ; make ; make install
[09:21] <bruenig> fdsasdf, it wont what?
[09:21] <fdsasdf> i dont have the internet on ubuntu i need network manager
[09:21] <faceface> PriceChild, see you later ... he started it! ;)
[09:21] <xtknight> lilrayray, log files from previous session end in .0 i believe.... umm kern.log.0 perhaps
[09:22] <aesiamun> annoying.
[09:22] <aesiamun> fdsasdf: do you know how to start a terminal?
[09:22] <fdsasdf> faceface, do i just type that in the terminal. im a linux noob
[09:22] <bruenig> fdsasdf, well believe me compiling network manager without an internet connection will be quite a feat, because you are going to need build-essential as well as some other packages I am sure
[09:22] <optilab> xtknight,  already have that noapic ahci  etc , anyway thanks i'll try to work this out or try another distro
[09:22] <xtknight> optilab, hrm tried Feisty yet with the C2D?
[09:22] <dsquare> omg please help! i added a partition and now i cant find it!!!
[09:22] <dsquare> how do i get to my new partition?
[09:22] <xtknight> dsquare, how did you add the partition?
[09:22] <bruenig> dsquare, what is the name of your partition
[09:22] <fdsasdf> aesiamun: yes
[09:22] <lefty> flannel: is there a script i can change somwhere to start screen with options when i boot up straight into it?
[09:23] <optilab> xtknight,  you think feisty fawn have better support? i'm dling it
[09:23] <aesiamun> wait you want to compile network manager?
[09:23] <xtknight> optilab, definitely.  flawless on my C2d
[09:23] <fdsasdf> yes
[09:23] <lilrayray> xtknight: should I past it in pastebin?
[09:23] <xtknight> lilrayray, sure
[09:23] <aesiamun> do you have all the development libs?
[09:23] <StoneNote> optilab, from what I see when I google, the chipset isn't supported until kernel 2.6.19
[09:23] <optilab> xtknight,  okay cool here's a hope
[09:23] <dsquare> used gnome partition manager, the name is dev/hda3 and its a ext3
[09:23] <optilab> xtknight,  yes right
[09:23] <fdsasdf> aesiamun: i dont know i just downloaede from here http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/NetworkManager/0.6/
[09:23] <soothsay> lefty: You can use an alias
[09:23] <aesiamun> why don't you just download the binary package instead of trying to compile from source?
[09:23] <xtknight> intel ICH8 and 9xx can boot with earlier kernels just fine, however C2D marvell/jmicron pata and marvell ethernet support is severely lacking
[09:23] <bruenig> dsquare, ok try this then, sudo mkdir /media/hda3 && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda3 /media/hda3
[09:24] <kaapu> bo
[09:24] <dsquare> thanks bruenig
[09:24] <aesiamun> go back to whatever computer you downloaded it on, go to a ftp mirrorsite, download the binary package and use dpkg -i to install it?
[09:24] <optilab> xtknight,  fesity ois ok for production environnement?
[09:24] <ProN00b> uuh, why isn't there a single disassembler in the repos ?
[09:24] <AlexC_> optilab: NO. It's not.
[09:24] <xtknight> optilab, not yet
[09:24] <lefty> soothsay: this being my first irc experience i don't know anythin at all about aliases, little help??
[09:24] <TheVault> Think someone can help me out. I love this firefox extension so much, I forgot that it used the SAPI 5 for Windows. Good thing is that it has the option of using Linux I assume cause when it says resource in the drop down menu. If your not sure what I'm saying, its a firefox extension that when you select text, it reads the pages to you http://clickspeak.clcworld.net/downloads.html & I was wondering how I could set this up for Linux
[09:24] <bruenig> fdsasdf, I agree with aesiamun it would be much easier to get the deb of network-manager-gnome then to try to compile it
[09:24] <xtknight> lol
[09:25] <optilab> xtknight,  hmmm
[09:25] <fdsasdf> but where
[09:25] <jumbers> Ooooh. It seems that color prompt is actually in the Ubuntu .bashrc, but it's just commented out
[09:25] <aesiamun> optilab: no it's definitely not.
[09:25] <bruenig> s/then/than/
[09:25] <dsquare> ok, bruenig after i do that, where should i look for the drive? i dont see it under "computer"
[09:25] <bruenig> dsquare, well open nautilus and go to /media/hda3 for one
[09:25] <Flannel> lefty: How are you starting screen? er, booting 'straight into it'?
[09:25] <aesiamun> fdsasdf: from an ubuntu repo.  They can be loaded up in a webbrowser
[09:25] <soothsay> lefty: I'm confused. Are you talking about screen or irssi?
[09:25] <soothsay> lefty: s/irssi/irc
[09:25] <lefty> irssi, lol
[09:25] <TheVault> never mind
[09:25] <TheVault> I found the information I was searching 4
[09:26] <dsquare> bruenig, i found it!!~
[09:26] <optilab> xtknight,  well i'll check this out, too bad i don't have much time for filing bug reports
[09:26] <xtknight> ProN00b, maybe in multiverse/universe?
[09:26] <soothsay> lefty: Can you repeat the question?
[09:26] <xtknight> ProN00b, 'disasm' in nasn
[09:26] <ProN00b> xtknight, i searched there too
[09:26] <bruenig> dsquare, do you want to set it up to automatically mount at boot?
[09:26] <xtknight> ProN00b, nasm*
[09:26] <lefty> flannel: i usually boot to the command line bash and use 'startx' but since using screen i got it to start up when just turning on
[09:26] <tuna-fish> a kernel module has stopped working correctly, how can i reload it?
[09:26] <xtknight> tuna-fish, sudo modprobe kernmod
[09:27] <dsquare> no bruenig, thanks. i might want to install windows one day but for now i have no good reason to. it will be my download drive.
[09:27] <ProN00b> xtknight, how do i invoke that ?
[09:27] <xtknight> ProN00b, sudo apt-get install nasm
[09:27] <javaJake_canHelp> tuna-fish, you can restart, or you could try removing and inserting it.
[09:27] <ProN00b> xtknight, i got nasm installed
[09:27] <fdsasdf> can someone give me a link to an Ubuntu 6.10 repository???
[09:27] <bruenig> dsquare, right but you are going to have to mount it each time unless you set it up to mount at boot
[09:27] <javaJake_canHelp> tuna-fish, to remove a module, run the following in a terminal: rmmod <module>
[09:27] <lefty> soothsay: sure, I'm new to this whole irc malark and have no idea what the term alias even means? I know that probably sounds quite odd to an experinced user. Could you explain aliases?
[09:27] <xtknight> ProN00b, dpkg -L nasm  for clues
[09:27] <bruenig> fdsasdf, archive.ubuntu.com
[09:27] <dsquare> oh ok bruenig then i would like to yes.
[09:27] <fdsasdf> ty
[09:27] <Flannel> lefty, soothsay, that welcome string is hard coded into the program: http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/Current/screen-6.1/screen/help.c  search for "enhancements"
[09:27] <dsquare> how do i do that?
[09:28] <javaJake_canHelp> tuna-fish, to insert a module, run the following: insmod <module>
[09:28] <ProN00b> xtknight, oh, aparently its ndisasm
[09:28] <javaJake_canHelp> tuna-fish, does this help?
[09:28] <xtknight> ProN00b, ya i think
[09:28] <xtknight> ProN00b, 'man ndisasm'
[09:28] <lefty> flannel: arrrgh....i might have to play around with the source code although it's probably not worth the bother
[09:28] <tuna-fish> wait a sec, trying
[09:28] <javaJake_canHelp> tuna-fish, OK
[09:28] <tuna-fish> have to save all work first
[09:28] <optilab> xtknight, aesiamun  do you know a distro that could handle this gear i'm not really up to date?
[09:28] <xtknight> optilab, fedora core 6 or opensuse 10.2
[09:29] <Flannel> lefty: just start it with -U, you'll want it in unicode anyway
[09:29] <aesiamun> optilab: which gear?  I'm sorry, i missed it.
[09:29] <soothsay> lefty: I understood that you were trying to start screen by automatically invoking some options. You can do that by using alias screen="screen -U"
[09:29] <bruenig> dsquare, do gksu gedit /etc/fstab and add this line to it: /dev/hda3   /media/hda3   ext3   user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0
[09:29] <wiseelben> How come javac cannot find the Scanner class? "import java.util.Scanner" gives me a "cannot be resolved" error.
[09:29] <xtknight> distro with kernel w/ support for core 2 duo/jmicron/intel 975
[09:29] <optilab> aesiamun, p5w dh c2d
[09:29] <xtknight> edgy doesnt work with ich8, neither can use jmicron
[09:29] <javaJake_canHelp> wiseelben, how did you install Java?
[09:29] <tuna-fish> javajake_canhelp: it worked, thanks
[09:29] <javaJake_canHelp> tuna-fish, n[
[09:29] <javaJake_canHelp> np*
[09:29] <AlexC_> xtknight: afaik no distro can work with jmicron without a lot of work as it's a Kernel issue,
[09:29] <bruenig> dsquare, that line should work fine, I am so used to doing it for ntfs or fat32, where fmask and dmask are important, it is probably not as important on ext3 but it shouldn't harm anything
[09:30] <aesiamun> optilab: i'm sorry, i have no idea what that means.
[09:30] <soothsay> Flannel: The point is that it shouldn't nag you by default. Especially since no other distro has it configured like that
[09:30] <lefty> soothsay: Thanks for the help, that clears things up
[09:30] <wiseelben> javaJake_canHelp: aptgetted sun-java5-sdk
[09:30] <javaJake_canHelp> wiseelben, OK. Give me a moment...
[09:30] <TheVault> Hows everyone doing this evening?
[09:30] <xtknight> aesiamun, asus P5W DH deluxe, core 2 duo
[09:30] <dsquare> bruenig, tyvm :)
[09:30] <optilab> aesiamun,  a board with a jmicron and 975x chip
[09:30] <AlexC_> xtknight: I spent 3 weeks trying to get my Abit AB9 to work, I gave up and just brought a new motherboard - nothing worked. I emailed JMicron and they insisted there was no problem and everything was fine
[09:30] <xtknight> AlexC_, jmicron support is in the latest kernels
[09:30] <n-iCe> The terminal code to install JAVA?
[09:30] <fdsasdf> omg IM SUCH A NOOB, i cant find the network-manager-gnome.deb on archive.ubuntu.com
[09:30] <lefty> Flannel: Yeah...I'm just too lazy to type an extra few keys whilst loading up
[09:30] <AlexC_> xtknight: really? well I hope so,
[09:30] <soothsay> lefty: Put that in .bashrc so you don't have to type it everytime you log in
[09:30] <xtknight> AlexC_, it works for most people.  i actually had trouble with it but later discovered it may have been my IDE drive
[09:30] <TheVault> n-ICE: Go to Synaptics Package Manager
[09:30] <Flannel> soothsay: Since it's in the code, I imagine the other distros edited the source to remove that.
[09:31] <AlexC_> xtknight: yeah IDE hard drives/CD drives mess it up
[09:31] <n-iCe> TheVault,  and search JAVA ?
[09:31] <TheVault> n-ICE: Search Sun Java
[09:31] <n-iCe> than you
[09:31] <n-iCe> thank
[09:31] <aesiamun> aesiamun: ah, no i don't.  You could try some of the source distros or maybe FC6
[09:31] <lefty> soothsay: Ah yes .bashrc, that's what I was lookin for, thanks!!
[09:31] <TheVault> n-iCE: Yuppers, Thats what I'm doing right now to install this extension that I really love!!!
[09:31] <fdsasdf> found it
[09:31] <fdsasdf> i tihhkn
[09:31] <soothsay> Flannel: Is it hardcoded to start every time? (As opposed to only the first time)
[09:31] <xtknight> AlexC_, ahh really so you had trouble with cds also?
[09:32] <TheVault> Question: What good program, a replacement for Nero?
[09:32] <xtknight> AlexC_, well i put in a promise ide controller and i still got errors with one of my cd drives :\...i was thinking libata problem maybe, or cdrom drive problem
[09:32] <javaJake_canHelp> wiseelben, it works over here... hmmm...
[09:32] <function1> why wont my battery charge over 70%?
[09:32] <xtknight> TheVault, k3b
[09:32] <TheVault> xtknight: Is it just like Nero?
[09:32] <AlexC_> xtknight: yep. with my CD drive I could not boot Edgy to install Ubuntu, but when I found a spare CD drive it would boot up and install - but after installing I could not boot into Ubuntu
[09:32] <aesiamun> function1: faulty battery?
[09:32] <xtknight> TheVault, not really.  there is nerolinux but imo k3b is better yet
[09:32] <Flannel> soothsay: display_copyright() is the function.  that file doesn't call it.  Let me check
[09:33] <xtknight> TheVault, there isn't really a good Nero clone
[09:33] <optilab> ok for those who need it here's a link : http://www.hentges.net/misc/howtos/p5wdh/index.shtml
[09:33] <genii> function1: It's getting old and won't hold a full charge anymore?
[09:33] <xtknight> regretablly
[09:33] <wiseelben> javaJake: you installed the ones in the repos right?
[09:33] <AlexC_> xtknight: if everything is SATA - it works, afaik. But there is a latest BIOS version that should fix all these problems, so update you're bios
[09:33] <javaJake> wiseelben, yes.
[09:33] <lilrayray> xtkinght: funniest thing happened; every time I clicked "paste" my computer froze!!!
[09:33] <function1> aesiamun: i dont think so. its very new. it used to charge, but now the little battery icon just has a red circle with a dash over it
[09:33] <xtknight> AlexC_, well the cd drive wouldnt work because JMicron support is not in the Edgy kenrel
[09:33] <function1> but no errors
[09:33] <TheVault> xtknight: Alrighty, I'll take your suggestion. I'm just thinking of all the software Iv used for Windows and getting a replacement for Linux & so far Iv found almost everything :)
[09:33] <xtknight> AlexC_, i used a usb cd drive with dapper personally
[09:33] <lilrayray> xtknight: I tried it three consecutive times, and it froze every time
[09:34] <javaJake> wiseelben, can I see the exact error output? PM me if you want.
[09:34] <xtknight> lilrayray, weird.  did you get the log on pastebin?
[09:34] <aesiamun> function1: it has nothing to do with the OS, the battery charging is done in the hardware.
[09:34] <javaJake> wiseelben, this will help me debug your issue.
[09:34] <lilrayray> xtknight: not that I know of, it just died the instant I clicked paste
[09:34] <malex> The regular install CD _is_ a live CD as well, right?
[09:34] <aesiamun> function1: it might not be reporting itself correctly.  Or you might need to discharge it completely and recharge.
[09:34] <xtknight> lilrayray, oh that sucks :O
[09:34] <AlexC_> malex: Desktop is LiveCD,
[09:34] <bruenig> dsquare, now that I think of it, it is probably best if you replace all those options with defaults, so the line should look like this, if you want to edit it: /dev/hda3   /media/hda3   ext3   defaults   0   0
[09:34] <xtknight> lilrayray, upload the logs somewhere?
[09:35] <function1> k. maybe i'll poke around in bios too..
[09:35] <lilrayray> xtknight: umm, ok
[09:35] <cheeseboy> how do i install kernel source?
[09:35] <malex> AlexC_: Thanks.
[09:35] <javaJake> lilrayray, namely pastebin.ca
[09:35] <xtknight> cheeseboy, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[09:35] <erUSUL> !kernel > cheeseboy
[09:35] <aesiamun> function1: you probably won't find much in there.  A full discharge just involves unplugging the computer and letting it drain fully.
[09:35] <dsquare> ok bruenig thank you. :)
[09:35] <xtknight> cheeseboy, actually those are just headers (*.h) but that's all you need for compiling stuff.  source is on kernel.org i think
[09:36] <xtknight> cheeseboy, er actually linux-source pkg for *.c files also
[09:36] <n-iCe> TheVault,  doesn't found something
[09:36] <cheeseboy> thnx
[09:36] <javaJake> wiseelben, according to what Google's telling me, it sounds like "Cannot be resolved" means Java couldn't find a specific path either on your hard-drive or across the web.
[09:36] <function1> aesiamun: also, the little gnome applet tells me the battery still has 100% capacity. k i guess i'll just let it drain then. thanks
[09:37] <Heroin01> Cam someone help me to make a bASh script
[09:37] <aesiamun> function1: if you can find some hard drive intensive task, it'll help drain the battery.
[09:37] <wiseelben> javaJake: hum, do you know the confi file ubuntu uses to check which dirs to get the java stuff from?
[09:37] <Heroin01> i just need it to run a few commands
[09:37] <javaJake> Heroin01, best channel for that in the world is #bash. Really helpful.
[09:37] <javaJake> Heroin01, oh, OK
[09:37] <genii> Heroin01: What do you need it to do?
[09:37] <Heroin01> THANK U
[09:37] <TheVault> n-iCE: It should have. Do you have all the respitories enabled?
[09:37] <Heroin01> THANKS U SO EVREddggf
[09:37] <Heroin01> (K)
[09:37] <aesiamun> wifi + brightest display + drive spinning = 3 hour life max
[09:37] <n-iCe> TheVault, yes
[09:37] <lefty> Anyone here tried RatPoison??
[09:38] <xtknight> and cpu burn in?
[09:38] <xtknight> :P
[09:38] <genii> Heroin01 And yes, javaJake's suggestion is a good one to take your question there :)
[09:38] <javaJake> lefty, yea, and it killed me. ;)
[09:38] <TheVault> n-iCE: are you searching for the java software or the plugin or both?
[09:38] <lefty> lol
[09:38] <POVaddct> lefty: i am not sure if you meant this, but put "startup_message off" in your .screenrc
[09:38] <optilab> what is the defaut password when sudo is not working?
[09:38] <xtknight> optilab, what do you mean?
[09:38] <lefty> .screenrc?
[09:38] <javaJake> wiseelben, usually Java looks to the CLASSPATH and PATH variables, but that was on Windows... let me peek around here a bit.
[09:39] <javaJake> wiseelben, in the meantime can you tell me what the error was exactly?
[09:39] <POVaddct> lefty: werent you talking about the startup message of screen?
[09:39] <wiseelben> javaJake: "sudo update-alternatives --config java" allwows you chose which java install to use
[09:39] <optilab> seems my system is not completely installed, that's why sudo is not working so i want to use su
[09:39] <TheVault> n-ICE: If all fails, go to the Add/Remove Programs under Applications. Then search Java there and your bound to find it
[09:39] <wiseelben> javaJake: I pmed you
[09:39] <lefty> Yeah, sorry, in /etc/screen?
[09:39] <VeganChick> i don't know which version of beryl to use...
[09:39] <bruenig> optilab, what do you mean sudo isn't working
[09:39] <javaJake> wiseelben, you... did?
[09:39] <Ash-Fox> !openoffice
[09:39] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[09:39] <javaJake> wiseelben, try again
[09:39] <sidny4_> to get my wireless to work I have to type in modprobe ndiswrapper, how do I make the computer load ndiswrapper automatically?
[09:39] <wiseelben> javaJake: try runnig that command, do yu see any "sdk" ones? I only see the runtime ones
[09:39] <assasukasse> how do i set my swap partition on another hdd to be automatically used at ubuntu bootup?
[09:39] <xtknight> sidny4, put it in /etc/modules
[09:39] <POVaddct> lefty: /etc/screenrc is system-wide, ~/.screenrc is user-specific
[09:39] <Ash-Fox> Any chance I can get a newer version of OpenOffice (like 2.1) instead of 2.0.4 through some alternative repositories for edgy?
[09:39] <wiseelben> javaJake: nvm, here is the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10238/
[09:40] <optilab> well sudo leave the console with no reaction for ever
[09:40] <bruenig> assasukasse, put it in the fstab
[09:40] <javaJake> wiseelben, *+        2    /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[09:40] <erUSUL> assasukasse: add a line to fstab
[09:40] <javaJake> wiseelben, that's it.
[09:40] <javaJake> wiseelben, but that's because you are going about that the wrong way. :)
[09:40] <assasukasse> bruenig: what is the sintax
[09:40] <bruenig> assasukasse, what is the name of your device, /dev/....
[09:40] <javaJake> wiseelben, when you use update-alternatives, it is asking what version of that program you want to use.
[09:40] <assasukasse> /dev/hdc3
[09:40] <soothsay> POVaddct: Thanks (RE: startup message)
[09:40] <erUSUL> assasukasse: use the one you already have as a template
[09:40] <javaJake> wiseelben, so if you want different SDK's, you want different "javac"s.
[09:40] <lefty> ah, thanks POVaddct, should .bashrc also work??
[09:41] <wiseelben> javaJake: i see..
[09:41] <TheVault> n-iCE: Did you find it?
[09:41] <soothsay> Flannel: Problem solved: startup_message off in screenrc
[09:41] <assasukasse> erUSUL: i don't have swap at now since i have 768mb ram
[09:41] <bruenig> assasukasse, ok it should look like this /dev/hdc3 none            swap    sw              0       0 (put this in /etc/fstab)
[09:41] <POVaddct> lefty: .bashrc has nothing to do with screen
[09:41] <bruenig> wow those spaces are big
[09:41] <assasukasse> thanks bruenig
[09:41] <xtknight> optilab, where are you at the moment typing sudo?
[09:41] <POVaddct> lefty: .bashrc is the startup file for interactive bashes
[09:41] <n-iCe> TheVault,  says is installed
[09:41] <optilab> xtknight,  in the terminal in xterm failsafe
[09:42] <javaJake> The import java.util.Scanner cannot be resolved - sounds like you don't have Scanner installed... :?
[09:42] <hosk> ls
[09:42] <hosk> doh
[09:42] <xtknight> optilab, hm root already, no?
[09:42] <lefty> POVaddct: ahhhhhhh, im an idiot, yeah, thankyou, you saved me from an elementary error
[09:42] <TheVault> n-ICE: Then its installed then. What are you needing java for, If I may ask
[09:42] <xtknight> optilab, does it show # or $ at the prompt
[09:42] <Flannel> soothsay: I figured there was something like that.  I didn't look though.  But really, you should be starting with unicode as well, so I don't know if that's doable in the rc, or only the parameter, but you may want to look into that
[09:42] <wiseelben> javaJake: isn't Scanner a standard Java class and shuold be included in the SDK?
[09:42] <javaJake> wiseelben, I know... :P
[09:42] <optilab> xtknight,  $
[09:42] <xtknight> optilab, sudo -i  ?