[19:45] <mker> moog_, not for me it doesn't (vuze <IP_ADDRESS>). try going into settings and turning automated updates off, but I don't think I had to do that.
[19:45] <hendrixski> bernie_, you can also get music through magnatunes music store in Amarok music player
[19:45] <hendrixski> it's better than iTunes
[19:45] <_Bluey__> ASULutzy: yes i did that too
[19:45] <moog_> update it to 4.0.0
[19:45] <hendrixski> bernie_,  or you can do illegal stuff by downloading music files, but I don't recommend that, we're not big fans of that around here
[19:45] <hajmola> _Bluey__, not sure... probably not with video
[19:45] <moog_> thats the bugged version i guess
[19:45] <keres> i'm having trouble with amarok. it won't start
[19:45] <hendrixski> hope that helps!
[19:45] <ASULutzy> _Bluey__: none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=125,devmode=664 0 0 something like this (You'll want to modify the devgid= part to match the group id of VBoxUsers
[19:46] <hajmola> my laptop won't wake up from suspend if the power is connected. It will wake up reliably on battery, but if the power is plugged in it will not wakeup and requires a hard reboot
[19:46] <moog_> i like deluge
[19:46] <mker> hendrixski, doesn't have to be illegal, there's plenty of free music. And it probably depends on where you live too.
[19:46] <_Bluey__> ASULutzy: yes i have done that :(
[19:46]  * hendrixski loves this place.  I come and get a question answered, I answer a few people's questions.  It works out well
[19:46] <fwaokda> how can i uninstall songbird?
[19:46] <M3nelvagor> Anybody know another way to unmute sound? Alsamixer is open full, but still I get no sound
[19:46] <moog_> apt-get remove songbird
[19:46] <ASULutzy> USB passthrough definitely works in Intrepid with VBox, so you should double check
[19:46] <moog_> sudo
[19:46] <Edward123> fwaokda, or synaptic?
[19:46] <hendrixski> mker, there's also deezer.com   or songza.com  where you don't have to DL the music in the first place.   i'm a big fan
[19:46] <moog_> i like songbird
[19:46] <hendrixski> mker, but where is there free music?
[19:46] <moog_> is awesome
[19:46] <_Bluey__> do u want to see a screenshot of what it looks like?
[19:46] <_Bluey__> ASULutzy: do u want to see a screenshot of what it looks like?
[19:47] <moog_> on my machine , hendrixski
[19:47] <bernie_> i believe in free mp3s and have been downloading music since the pcs were only 66.6 mhz
[19:47] <shoot^> hey guys. I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server from a USB Stick (followed the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick) but I am getting errors about a lack of a CDRom. Any ideas?
[19:47] <moog_> i have like 400 Gb :))
[19:47] <jadestorm> Can I ask a powerpc ubuntu related question in here or does it have to be the -powerpc channel?  (it seems kinda dead)  =)
[19:47] <camerongroom1> how do you do a screenshot in linux haha?
[19:47] <ASULutzy> _Bluey__: Sure, can you plug in USB mice and stuff?
[19:47] <fwaokda> moog_, I'm going to try reinstalling it because it didn't work after installing this first time. said it had an invalid pointer
[19:47] <moog_> hm
[19:47] <moog_> camerongroom1: printscreen in gnome , workd for me
[19:47] <hendrixski> hhmmm
[19:48] <ASULutzy> camerongroom1: printscreen gets the whole screen alt+printscreen captures just the window with focus
[19:48] <hendrixski> Ok,  anyway, I'm off to play with firefox's screen-scraper.    This looks awesome!
[19:48] <moog_> jadestorm: do you want to install ubuntu on a powerpc computer ?
[19:48] <Besogon> How can I get my own "uid" in console?
[19:48] <mker> hendrixski, I know there's a site with indie music that you can download but I can't remember the name right now :( If you like streaming music Spotify is pretty neat, the songs are in ogg vorbis and they have instructions for Wine on the site until Linux version comes (basically just install it and it works).
[19:48] <raylu> Besogon: echo $UID
[19:48] <moog_> whoami
[19:49] <moog_> i managed to save my data from a hfs partition , and transfer it onto a NTFS one
[19:49] <moog_> this is great
[19:49] <moog_> via ubuntu live cd
[19:49] <M3nelvagor> anybody here with sound driver knowledge? or using a dell ?
[19:49] <Besogon> raylu: thanks
[19:49] <hendrixski> mker, spotify ... lemme take a look
[19:49] <raylu> !sound | M3nelvagor
[19:50] <Randal> #sdf
[19:52] <darkrubicant> hi i'm back, If I created a msdos label on the drive should that have deleted the MBR because it still reads as having Microsoft windows xp and Ubuntu on there.
[19:52] <darkrubicant> and I don't know how to work this dd command, the one you gave me n8tuser didn't work
[19:52] <The_Undisputable> it has created some files physically on my hard drive, is ths normal
[19:52] <darkrubicant> the drive I think you meant is sdb
[19:52] <darkrubicant> the drive i'm on is the one i'm using and is
[19:52] <darkrubicant> sda
[19:52] <keres> whenvever i try to play a flash video, it plays 2 seconds and then freezes.
[19:53] <darkrubicant> keres I had that problem
[19:53] <darkrubicant> remove all your flash plugins
[19:53] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: What is it you're actually trying to do?
[19:53] <keres> darkrubicant: then reinstall?
[19:53] <darkrubicant> yea keres
[19:53] <kwtm> Hi!  How do I install that thingmajig that shows the current weather of a specified location?
[19:53] <jwl007> screenlet
[19:53] <darkrubicant> ASULutzy, I'm trying to get windows xp to boot from the cd, but it gives me a blue screen with a stop error when I try, and I'm pretty sure it's because of the MBR on my sata drive.
[19:53] <ASULutzy> kwtm: Just right click on the top panel and hit add to panel and pick the weather one
[19:54] <darkrubicant> I've tried a bunch of different things to wipe it but nothing seems to be working
[19:54] <darkrubicant> I was given this command
[19:54] <keres> darkrubicant: how do you uninstall flash?
[19:54] <darkrubicant> dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda_backup bs=512 count=1
[19:54] <jwl007> kwtm, sudo apt-get install screenlets
[19:54] <darkrubicant> keres use synaptic.
[19:54] <kwtm> ASULutzy: Hm... I was hoping you wouldn't say that.  I actually have Kubuntu, not GNOME ubuntu.  Do you have the name of a program I can run?
[19:54] <keres> ij
[19:54] <johannes__> hi, im running kubuntu 8.10 and want to connect to a smb share on a vista pc, I can ping the vista pc, and scan it with umit (which says netbios-ssn port is open on the vista pc and netbios-ssn and microsoft-ds is open on my pc) but no network scanner will find the vista pc, nor can I connect typing in the ip by myself, what can I do?
[19:54] <kwtm> jwl007: Oh, screenlets?  Will try that.
[19:54] <darkrubicant> I think a more correct command is something like dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sdb....
[19:54] <ASULutzy> kwtm: gweather
[19:54] <darkrubicant> but i'm not sure how to continue from there on the dd command.
[19:55] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: can you do cat /proc/partitions
[19:55] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: from the machine
[19:55] <darkrubicant> I'll try one sec.
[19:55] <kwtm> ASULutzy: Thanks.  WIll try gweather, since KWeather seems to be another one of those half-done jobs by the KDE team that look neat but are useless.
[19:55] <ASULutzy> kwtm: Yea, that's why I'm using Gnome.
[19:55] <ays> guys, anyone here ever used Qt software?
[19:55] <darkrubicant> 4 lines going to be pasted.
[19:55] <darkrubicant>   8     0  156290904 sda
[19:55] <darkrubicant>    8     1  150207718 sda1
[19:55] <darkrubicant>    8     5    6080571 sda5
[19:55] <darkrubicant>    8    16  244198584 sdb
[19:55] <FloodBot1> darkrubicant: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:55] <ASULutzy> kwtm: Did they ever make it so you could actually use a desktop wall paper AND have icons on your desktop in KDE 4?
[19:56] <ASULutzy> kwtm: Because that was like a problem even a year after 4.0 first came out ;)
[19:56] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: Use a pastebin for it.
[19:56] <kwtm> ASULutzy: No idea.  I'm not touching KDE4 until someone reports that I don't have to tinker with it just for everyday use.  Using Kubuntu 8.04 LTS KDE 3
[19:56] <darkrubicant> sdb is the drive i'm trying to get reformatted completely even the darn fixmbr on the super grub disk didn't do it >.<
[19:56] <moog_> kde4 is ugly
[19:56] <darkrubicant> alright one moment.
[19:56] <kwtm> ASULutzy: KWeather reports dew point, humidity, visibility ... but NO TEMPERATURE!!!  (duhhh...)
[19:56] <jwl007> Lately, Ive been getting the following error on start up of ubuntu: su: Authentication information cannot be recovered.  Any ideas why I would be getting this error?
[19:56] <jeeves__> how can I configure my copt of moto4lin to see/use my Motorola V3?
[19:56] <moog_> i need to reboot
[19:57] <Neaai> I admit I haven't yet seen kde4
[19:57] <darkrubicant> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88709/
[19:57] <darkrubicant> that's the paste.
[19:57] <keres> Neaai: it's like windows vista-ish
[19:57] <darkrubicant> gparted reports the drive as being 232 GB, which is incorrect, and I think that's part of the problem
[19:57] <darkrubicant> some of the drive is being protected somehow
[19:57] <_Bluey__> ASULutzy: u still there?
[19:57] <darkrubicant> I believe at any rate
[19:58] <Neaai> keres: even when it comes to system resources ?
[19:58] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: If you really want to get rid of the partitions on /dev/sdb, do sudo fdisk /dev/sdb
[19:58] <darkrubicant> _Bluey__, ASULutzy  is answering a lot of questions at the moment, give him/her some time.
[19:58] <ChristianBill> How do you kill a process from "top"
[19:58] <darkrubicant> ASULutzy, there is nothing on that drive, so yes that would be fine.
[19:58] <keres> Neaai: no. just the interface. system resources is exactly the same as ubuntu
[19:58] <Darkfuzion1> it freezes after 39% pass and 18 errors
[19:58] <tavi----> someone say to me a software for modofy videous
[19:58] <tavi----> ?
[19:58] <jeeves__> how can I find the path to my cell phone that I have plugged in?
[19:58] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: and then just keep pushing 'd' until there's nothing left, and then push 'w' to write the changes... That'll remove all the partitions from /dev/sdb and make the data go poof
[19:58] <Neaai> keres: ah, that's nice to know.
[19:58] <darkrubicant> I'm currently on a drive just running ubuntu, so even if I nuke the other drive there's no problem.
[19:58] <Darkfuzion1> in memtest
[19:58] <ASULutzy> _Bluey__: Yea, I'm here
[19:58] <darkrubicant> ASULutzy, will that also clear the mbr?
[19:58] <_Bluey__> darkrubicant: i m sorry, he had asked me for a screenshot
[19:59] <cryptnix> debian > ubuntu
[19:59] <_Bluey__> ASULutzy: heres the screenshot http://picpaste.com/Screenshot1.jpg
[19:59] <darkrubicant> _Bluey__, no problem just trying to give ASULutzy sometime :)
[19:59] <keres> darkrubicant: do i want flashplugin-nonfree?
[19:59] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: Well first, what does sudo fdisk -l say
[19:59] <darkrubicant> keres, install the adobe flash plugin it works fine.
[19:59] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: oh, there are no partitions on /dev/sdb
[19:59] <darkrubicant> ASULutzy, one moment.
[19:59] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: :)
[19:59] <cryptnix> hmm fail
[19:59] <darkrubicant> yea
[19:59] <Darkfuzion1> who was hwlping me out ant told me to do a memtest???
[20:00] <keres> darkrubicant: is that nonfree or some other package?
[20:00] <darkrubicant> it's free.
[20:00] <Neaai> keres: as for flash, if you can do with the free options, better. If those don't work, then turn to the non-free.
[20:00] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: Installing Windows after another OS exists is suck... for what it's worth, last time I reinstalled Windows, I had to, get this, unplug EVERY drive other than the one I was installing Windows to
[20:00] <darkrubicant> ASULutzy, sounds like I might need to do that
[20:00] <ASULutzy> _Bluey__: That says it sees the device just fine?
[20:00] <Darkfuzion1> Asulutzy: it showed up 18 errors and froze in memtest
[20:00] <darkrubicant> I was going to swear at microsoft just then, but I don't know the repricussions in this channel so I wont.
[20:00] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: I know it sounds crazy, but give it a try
[20:00] <ASULutzy> Darkfuzion1: Your memory is hosed
[20:00] <keres> Neaai: what is the package name for flash?
[20:01] <ASULutzy> Darkfuzion1: Buy new memory
[20:01] <darkrubicant> yea because the blue screen it's giving me is crazy, and if I do that...
[20:01] <darkrubicant> ASULutzy, If this works I love you, in a non gay way.
[20:01] <Scunizi_> keres: it'll say "non-free" in the description
[20:01] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: It's cool, I don't hate on the gays ;)
[20:01] <darkrubicant> oh and when I did sudo fdisk /dev/sdb
[20:01] <_Bluey__> ASULutzy: yes but when i switch the virtual machine on and turn itunes and plug the ipod in, the itunes is unresponsive
[20:01] <darkrubicant> it gave me crap about it being larger than 1024 sectors
[20:01] <keres> thanks
[20:01] <darkrubicant> and then ask me for a prompt
[20:02] <cryptnix> shesh ... rohil mibbit is sweet.
[20:02] <ASULutzy> _Bluey__: does the device show up in My Computer?
[20:02] <Neaai> keres: flashplugin-nonfree
[20:02] <rohil> Hi, I am getting lots of failed attempts at installing from terminal using apt-get. I am on 7.04. Is that the reason ?
[20:02] <_Bluey__> ASULutzy: no :(
[20:02] <keres> ok
[20:02] <SpArTaKo> alguien sabe leer español?
[20:02] <tavi----> someone say to me a professional software for modify videous?
[20:02] <darkrubicant> yea fdisk doesn't see a partition, so what i'll try doing is unplugging the ide drive and getting the sata working.
[20:02] <jimjimhim> Is anyone good with sound?  I have no sound on my machine and I just installed SB Audigy SE on Ubuntu 8.10
[20:02] <darkrubicant> HOpe this works!!
[20:02] <Scunizi_> _Bluey__: are you using virtual box?
[20:02] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: Eh, if there are no partitions there whatever... If you want to install Windows to /dev/sdb, you could preformat it with NTFS or something via fdisk, then mkfs it to NTFS, and then unplug the other drives while trying to install.... That's basically what I had to do
[20:03] <darkrubicant> jimjimhim, You'll need to get the oss drivers working
[20:03] <darkrubicant> alsa wont work
[20:03] <Neaai> tavi----: check out cinerrela (i think it's called that way). they say it's very good.
[20:03] <_Bluey__> Scunizi_: yes
[20:03] <johannes__> how can I check what version of samba is installed on my pc?
[20:03] <darkrubicant> ASULutzy, I could do that from gparted.
[20:03] <darkrubicant> even
[20:03] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: Yea sure that works
[20:03] <_Bluey__> Scunizi_: sun xvm virtualbox ver 2.0.6
[20:03] <darkrubicant> alright I'll giver.  Thanks hopefully the next time you see me I'll be praising you, and helping in here with things other than MBR's >.<
[20:03] <jimjimhim> darkrubicant, how?
[20:04] <Scunizi_> _Bluey__: at the bottom right of the windows vm window you'll see some icons. the one that looks like a "usb plug" click that and see if your ipod is listed there
[20:04] <darkrubicant> jim, I'll get you a link one sec.
[20:04] <mon^rch> can somebody help me setup my webcam?
[20:04] <ASULutzy> _Bluey__, Scunizi_: Oh, I just assumed you were actually connecting the device.
[20:04] <_Bluey__> Scunizi_: it is listed but its greyed out
[20:04] <darkrubicant> http://jamestombs.co.uk/2008-05-05/getting-creative-x-fi-to-work-in-ubuntu-hardy-heron-8/608
[20:04] <Scunizi_> _Bluey__: are you a member of the vbox group?
[20:04] <darkrubicant> that applies to essentially all creative cards jimjimhim hope that helps.
[20:04] <darkrubicant> gotta go
[20:04] <_Bluey__> how do i check that?
[20:04] <darkrubicant> thanks again ASULutzy
[20:05] <_Bluey__> Scunizi_: how do i check that?
[20:05] <Scunizi_> _Bluey__: System>Admin>Group>virtual box
[20:05] <jimjimhim> darkrubicant  How do I do that?
[20:06] <Scunizi_> none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=125,devmode=664 0 0
[20:06] <raylu> Scunizi_: run "groups" in a termianl
[20:06] <raylu> *terminal
[20:07] <Scunizi_> _Bluey__: you also need to add the following line in /etc/fstab.. none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=125,devmode=664 0 0
[20:07] <_Bluey__> Scunizi_: there was only 2 things "root" and "bluey" in the properties box. i ticked against bluey and saved
[20:07] <ASULutzy> Scunizi_, _Bluey__: That's only if 125 is actually the correct groupid for vboxusers for him, it may not be
[20:07] <mithraic> If I add a second PCI graphics card, will I be able to extend my desktop over the additional monitors?
[20:07] <Scunizi_> _Bluey__: then in a terminal type ... grep vboxusers /etc/group to get the righ devgid number to put in that line in fstab
[20:07] <_Bluey__> Scunizi_: i have done the ftab part
[20:07] <ASULutzy> _Bluey__: If you weren't a member of the group and now you are, all you'll have to do is log out and back in, and it should work now
[20:08] <raylu> mithraic: what graphics cards
[20:08] <Scunizi_> *right
[20:08] <mithraic> Or is that only likely to work with multiple displays from the same card>?
[20:08] <mithraic> raylu: Am looking at options.
[20:08] <_Bluey__> lemme go check that eral quick
[20:08] <ASULutzy> _Bluey__: But you need to make sure that vboxusers' gid is 125
[20:08] <raylu> mithraic: um... how are you going to plug two monitors into the same graphics card?
[20:08] <coeus82> can someone help me get my mouse detected?
[20:08] <_Bluey__> i will reboot just for good measures
[20:08] <mithraic> one with two outputs.
[20:08] <coeus82> I'm on ubuntu 8.10 and I can't seem to get HAL to recognize my mouse
[20:08] <mithraic> same as i'm doing now :)
[20:08] <raylu> mithraic: oh. then of course, that's preferred
[20:08] <ASULutzy> _Bluey__: You don't hav to reboot
[20:08] <ASULutzy> ugh.
[20:08] <mithraic> the thing is, I want three monitors.
[20:09] <raylu> mithraic: it sounded like you had one with one atm
[20:09] <mithraic> ah, gotcha.
[20:09] <raylu> mithraic: then yes, it's possible, though not very easy
[20:09] <mithraic> no, the issue now is that the card is ATI, and damn if I can get rotation to work.
[20:09] <fudpucker> looks like one of the updates pwned my graphics.  i did a fresh install of 8.1 today.  then later this afternoon, i decided to do the updates, now when i drag windows between my 2 displays, i see this line, and it moves in conjunction with the window.....anyideas how to fix this
[20:09] <raylu> mithraic: though the most trouble involves dynamically reconfiguring it. setting it up once and leaving it there forever is easy
[20:09] <Scunizi_> _Bluey__: ASULutzy sometimes you have to reboot.. went round and round trying to restart the right systems yesterday with someone and nothing worked until reboot
[20:09] <mithraic> oh, i don't mind, then.
[20:09] <raylu> mithraic: i do :( laptop
[20:09] <mithraic> i am right in my impression that people have more success with rotation under nvidia cards, yes?
[20:10] <ASULutzy> Scunizi_: You have to reboot sometimes, but not when all you did was add yourself to a new group.. He could have just logged out and back in for that one.
[20:10] <raylu> mithraic: i wouldn't know
[20:10] <ASULutzy> mithraic: If you are asking, "Does fglrx mostly suck?" then the answer is yes
[20:10] <seseberg> Hi guys, does anyone have any idea where I could find a good driver for my Dlink DWL-G122? (Ubuntu 8.10)
[20:10] <mithraic> ASULutzy: fair 'nuff :)
[20:10] <hosoka1> hello
[20:10] <zakk> could someone take a look at this and suggest a solution: http://pastebin.com/m6c2b580
[20:10] <hosoka1> first timer here :-)
[20:11] <Scunizi_> ASULutzy: yes that's true.. it's the fstab line that typically gets messed up
[20:11] <raylu> zakk: why do you need that package?
[20:11] <zakk> raylu: which one?
[20:11] <raylu> zakk: -dev
[20:11] <zakk> raylu: because I compile gl programs?
[20:11] <odin> in
[20:12] <odin> hello
[20:12] <raylu> zakk: oh. sounds like a packaging error :P i'd report it as a bug
[20:12] <Guest85418> how do i format anyone
[20:12] <seseberg> Hi guys, does anyone have any idea where I could find a good driver for my Dlink DWL-G122? (Ubuntu 8.10)
[20:12] <raylu> seseberg: ndiswrapper, i believe
[20:12] <ASULutzy> Guest85418: What are you trying to format?
[20:13] <Guest85418> HARD DRIVE
[20:13] <raylu> ...win.
[20:13] <Guest85418> TO MUCH GB
[20:13] <ASULutzy> Guest85418: lol.
[20:13] <seseberg> the built in one keeps on resetting
[20:13] <Jordan_U> seseberg, Is it usb or pci?
[20:13] <seseberg> and I just hate it
[20:13] <seseberg> usb
[20:13] <seseberg> ralink chipset I believe
[20:13] <seseberg> I searched throughout linux-drivers.org
[20:13] <seseberg> but it was hard finding something
[20:13] <robbmunson> Guest85418: and what file system does it use?
[20:14] <Guest85418> does anyone know how to clear a comp down using ubuntu then i can reload
[20:14] <seseberg> raylu, ndiswrapper is built-in ubuntu 8.10, right? I'm a bit of a n00b
[20:14] <raylu> seseberg: no
[20:14] <seseberg> ooooooops
[20:14] <camerongroom1> does anyone know a program that is similar to flash for ubuntu? (out puts swf files)
[20:14] <Guest85418> cant get 810
[20:14] <Jordan_U> zakk, Have you tried "sudo apt-get -f install" ?
[20:14] <der|kunstler> I would like to add a custom syntax highlight using gedit, can somebody help me ?
[20:14] <hosoka1> Is there anyone here who has experience with, for example, when opening a page and then you see instead of the video picture a fragment of a "play" character ? Previously, I immediately got the video image to see and just click on it and played that ofcourse. Someone experience this before en can tell me what goes wrong here?
[20:15] <seseberg> raylu, can I find it in the synaptic package manager?
[20:15] <zakk> Jordan_U: it tells me to dpkg --configure -a
[20:15] <ASULutzy> zakk: I would do sudo apt-get -f install myself
[20:15] <raylu> seseberg: um... it's there. ndiswrapper-common
[20:15] <raylu> !ndiswrapper | seseberg
[20:15] <bluey> Scunizi_: i rebooted still no joy
[20:15] <zleap1> is anyone using openoffice 3.0
[20:15] <robbmunson> Guest85418: we are trying to help you, but you aren't giving us enough information to help buddy. :)
[20:15] <zakk> ASULutzy: yeah I tried that
[20:15] <seseberg> yeah, by the way, how do I install openoffice 3, after downloading the tar.gz?
[20:16] <fryguy> seseberg: untar it and read the README
[20:16] <raylu> seseberg: why can't you install from the repositories?
[20:16] <raylu> zleap1: yes, why?
[20:16] <zleap1> not sure, i am using 2.4 still
[20:16] <fryguy> seseberg: and see if it has an INSTALL file
[20:16] <Guest85418> ok i want a clean comp how do i do it with ubuntu or just in general
[20:16] <zleap1> in calc, does it come up with a dialog box when you delete cell data
[20:17] <Neaai> seseberg: check on this:    http://www.atlink.it/~conti/articles/d-link-dwl-g122-and-linux/
[20:17] <fryguy> Guest85418: define "clean comp"
[20:17] <zleap1> as one of our members on #dclug is asking
[20:17] <Jordan_U> zakk, How did you get to this point? Did you just try to install the package with apt?
[20:17] <ASULutzy> bluey: You need to make sure you are in vboxusers, and that the line in /etc/fstab is correct (and that the gid you have there is actually the correct gid of the group vboxusers) then once you do that, you should just create the filter in settings for VBox that says like, "Allow everything" then you the usb icon in the bottom right of VBox should allow you to right click on it
[20:17] <seseberg> dude!!!! I love you!!!!!!!!!!
[20:17] <seseberg> :))
[20:17] <zakk> Jordan_U: I've been using upgrade manager and synaptic
[20:17] <Scunizi_> _Bluey__: you might want to head over to #vbox.. they are pretty helpful there and might be able to diagnose what's going on.
[20:17] <jorvis> how can I check if I'm getting hardware acc. video after a new install?
[20:17] <_Bluey__> thank you
[20:18] <Jordan_U> jorvis, glxinfo | grep direct
[20:18] <Guest85418> how do i format anyone
[20:18] <jorvis> Jordan_U - that's what I thought - it says 'Yes'
[20:18] <_Bluey__> Scunizi_: ASULutzy : thank you i will try my luck at #vbox
[20:18] <fryguy> Guest85418: what do you want to format to? do you want a wiped hard drive? do you want a linux filesystem, what do you want?
[20:18] <seseberg> guest 85418
[20:18] <seseberg> go to www.ntfs.com
[20:18] <Scunizi_> _Bluey__: wait.. are you using the version from vbox or the repos?
[20:18] <seseberg> and download the 30 day trial
[20:18] <jorvis> Jordan_U: but that grep also catches: "OpenGL rendere string: Software rasterizer"
[20:18] <FloodBot1> seseberg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:18] <solid_liq> !ping
[20:18] <Guest85418> a wipe for starters
[20:18] <seseberg> Windows PE based bootable cd
[20:19] <ASULutzy> Scunizi_: No, he's not using the OSE
[20:19] <seseberg> that has partitioning software included
[20:19] <Guest85418> FRYGUY awipe first
[20:19] <_Bluey__> Scunizi_: vbox
[20:19] <raylu> seseberg: that's really not what he needs
[20:19] <fryguy> Guest85418: use darik's boot and nuke
[20:19] <Scunizi_> ASULutzy: ah ok.. hadn't asked so I didn't know.
[20:19] <robbmunson> fryguy: ive been trying to get that out of him for a while now, almost like pulling teeth :/
[20:19] <fryguy> Guest85418: there's no reason to wipe first, but if you are convinced you need to, use that
[20:19] <Scunizi_> _Bluey__: thanks.. didn't know.
[20:19] <Guest85418> lol orry
[20:19] <Guest85418> how do i do that
[20:19] <Neaai> seseberg: your mileage may vary though. But that article sheds a lot of light on your problem.
[20:19] <ASULutzy> Guest85418: I guess the question is. Do you want to use Windows or Ubuntu? Because what you format the drive to matters
[20:20] <Guest85418> ubuntu i suppose
[20:20] <seseberg> you can always format it to raw
[20:20] <seseberg> I mean
[20:20] <seseberg> delete the existing partitions.....
[20:20] <ASULutzy> Guest85418: Then you don't need to "wipe it" just pop in the live-cd and tell it to use the entire disk.
[20:20] <fryguy> Guest85418: if you want to install ubuntu, the put in the installation disk and install it. it will walk you through partitioning and wipe everything for you, if that's what you want
[20:20] <Guest85418> i have an asus linux system with ubuntu loaded  over the top
[20:20] <Vooloo> I've had windows XP disc crash, is it possible to create a rescue disc with ubuntu or other linux distro where I can get the files from the harddrive that are still readable?
[20:21] <fryguy> Vooloo: just use the livecd
[20:21] <Guest85418> how much gb does ubuntu use
[20:21] <Neaai> Vooloo: yes. use the install/liveCD and access the hard drive from there.
[20:21] <Sensae> I just installed with the Kubuntu 8.10 disc, restarted. Grub error 17? Why would the installer fail to properly set up grub?
[20:21] <ASULutzy> Guest85418: Do you have an eeepc?
[20:21] <ASULutzy> Guest85418: If you have an eeepc there's a specific Ubuntu distro for the eeepc
[20:21] <fryguy> Guest85418: depends on what you install, a default full featured install is 3-4 gigabytes.  I doubt anybody in this channel is over 10gigabytes
[20:21] <Vooloo> and then what? is it hard to mount the NTFS partitions? how do I transfer files from there to another format?
[20:22] <fryguy> Vooloo: you just navigate to the disk and use it, it will mount for your automatically
[20:22] <fryguy> Vooloo: just drag and drop to wherever you want
[20:22] <Neaai> Vooloo: it's not hard at all. doubleclicking does the trick, and for the transfer, drag-n-drop does the other trick.
[20:22] <Guest85418> im using a asus netbook its only 8gb
[20:22] <Guest85418> lol
[20:23] <ASULutzy> Guest85418: Then google ubuntu eeepc
[20:23] <fryguy> Guest85418: 8gb is plenty for most ubuntu installs
[20:23] <ASULutzy> Guest85418: That might be better for you
[20:23] <Guest85418> whats on it asultzy
[20:23] <Guest85418> is it the same
[20:23] <fryguy> Guest85418: it has better driver support
[20:23] <ASULutzy> Guest85418: http://www.ubuntu-eee.com/ it's just optimized for a small screen, better driver support, the window manager is easier to use
[20:23] <Guest85418> nice can u give me the link
[20:24] <Neaai> Vooloo: basically, stick an usb drive in place, insert the livecd in the drive, reboot, and start transfering once you're in the live environment.
[20:24] <Vooloo> ah okay, thanks
[20:24] <Guest85418> i c thats why i was getting flickering
[20:24] <goog> Hey People! Is it normal, that under Ubuntu8.04 I cannot use CTRL+ALT+F1 to switch to that terminal? (is terminal the right term?)
[20:24] <fryguy> goog: no it's not normal
[20:24] <seseberg> does ubuntu have like a full device manager
[20:24] <Guest85418> 200mb short of 8.10
[20:24] <seseberg> like windows does?
[20:24] <Neaai> goog: and ctrl-alt-f2  ?
[20:25] <goog> Neaai: nothing too
[20:25] <fryguy> seseberg: not like windows, no
[20:25] <Guest85418> yes its terminal
[20:25] <seseberg> damn
[20:25] <goog> any other way to get to the other terminals?
[20:25] <fryguy> goog: no
[20:25] <seseberg> why does everything need to be so command-lineish in ubuntu..........
[20:25] <Neaai> goog: well... you could intentionally kill X and see what happens.
[20:25] <fryguy> seseberg: because that's how the system was originally built. X11 was an afterthought.
[20:25] <goog> any way to find out what blocks CTRL+ALT+Fx?
[20:25] <amine> Hello, I have a few questions about ubuntu - does it use the latest kernel or does it backport security patches to an old stable one? Also, do the repositories have cutting-edge releases or just old stable ones? (e.g. a new version of eclipse comes out, does it get released on the repositories after a few days or after a few weeks when deemed stable/secure)?
[20:25] <fryguy> seseberg: and doing things with the command line is almost always faster and easier, so it's the way people tend to do it
[20:26] <soho> goog; no it's not normal
[20:26] <Jordan_U> goog, Try fn+ctrl+alt+F1 ( in case your function keys controll something like screen brightness by default rather than acting as function keys )
[20:26] <seseberg> well...... it just ain't the average person's style u know....
[20:26] <soho> i have no idea except the keys
[20:26] <darkrubicant> ok unfortunately unhooking the ide drive didn't change anything.
[20:26] <fryguy> seseberg: no
[20:26] <darkrubicant> Still got a stop error, this time I recorded it.
[20:26] <seseberg> darjubicant, maybe you have BAD sectors on your hard drive
[20:27] <seseberg> just my 2 cents
[20:27] <fwaokda> Does anyone here know how I could monitor data sent to and from a usb device I connect to ubuntu?
[20:27] <ASULutzy> seseberg: I'm sure you can find a GUI app that acts like device manager. I think SuSE has one installed by default doesn't it?
[20:27] <goog> Jordan_U: lol, that send my notebook into suspend mode :-)
[20:27] <darkrubicant> ALSO why is grub saying that the windows and ubuntu boot loaders are located on a partition that no longer exists, it's saying they are on /dev/sdb2 fdisk doesn't report these as being there...
[20:27] <seseberg> I've never tried openSUSE
[20:27] <goog> because fn+F1 is suspend.
[20:27] <goog> now i dont have a mouse cursor anymore :-(
[20:27] <goog> any way to get it back?
[20:27] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: You can use update-grub to fix that I think, darkrubicant if you're installing to a SATA drive, are you doing a slipstream install, or do you have the drivers?
[20:27] <Neaai> goog: maybe there's a difference between ALT and ALT-Gr  ?  (I have an ancient keyb that doesn't have alt-gr and it's still the best of all)
[20:28] <_Bluey__> Scunizi_: hey, what was that non /proc/bus/usb  usbfs line u asked to add ??
[20:28] <Necrosan_> Any better burning software than GAY ASS brasero?
[20:28] <darkrubicant> I'm using the windows xp disc
[20:28] <fryguy> Necrosan_: k3b
[20:28] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: Because iirc, you need to do that whole "push F6" thing while doing a windows install if you're installing to a SATA drive
[20:28] <darkrubicant> what is a slipstream install sorry
[20:28] <amine> goog, try ctrl-alt-del to restart X, and then before you log into your account try ctrl-alt-f2/f3/f4 for terminals
[20:28] <goog> Neaai: altGR doesnt work either
[20:28] <goog> amine: that will probably work
[20:28] <Necrosan_> oh it worked
[20:28] <Neaai> goog: you're using that system right now ?
[20:28] <fryguy> goog: you have an altGR key on your keyboard?
[20:28] <Necrosan_> i retract my statement
[20:28] <goog> Neaai: yes
[20:28] <goog> fryguy: yes, tried it, makes no difference.
[20:29] <seseberg> why am I wasting my time with ubuntu when I have a Vista license, I just don't know......... sorry guys, I think it's just because I received an original cd and I wanted to try it out
[20:29] <seseberg> sorry for bothering you....
[20:29] <seseberg> buhbye
[20:29] <Necrosan_> BRASERO FOR LIFE!!!
[20:29] <goog> I wanted to see the other terminals because i noticed on terminal it constantly outputs some error message. Something like "connect debounce faild. port 6 disabled."
[20:29] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: You can't install XP to SATA without drivers generally, you can either create an XP slipstream disc (which automatically loads the drivers) or you can mash F6 when it prompts you to and put a floppy in with the drivers
[20:29] <Neaai> goog: well kill X with ctrl-alt-bkspc at least to see whether you can get the terminals after X reloads.
[20:29] <goog> Neaai: no, it has been like this for days.
[20:29] <hischild> ASULutzy, you can, i've done it  dozens of time .
[20:29] <darkrubicant> how would the xp disc not have sata drivers for a western digital device, I thought about that, and then told myself no microsoft can't be that stupid
[20:30] <hischild> ASULutzy, without drivers, slipstreaming or anything
[20:30] <darkrubicant> it loads all kinds of sata drivers, but not western digital ones.
[20:30] <ASULutzy> hischild: It dpeends
[20:30] <fryguy> ASULutzy: that is only the case if you have raid support or ahci enabled in the bios, if neither of these are enabled then it will install just fine with no extra drivers
[20:30] <Neaai> goog: and when you do:  sudo "/etc/init.d/gdm stop"  can you get the terminals ?
[20:30] <darkrubicant> ASULutzy, I swear to god, I've installed it without sata drivers before...
[20:30] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant, fryguy: Yea, what fryguy said
[20:30] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: I dunno, WIndows isn't really my speciality, could try joining #windows ;)
[20:31] <goog> Neaai: i guess so.   I am trying to install a Sound Blaster Audigy SE and I get no sound =(
[20:31] <Neaai> goog: don't be lazy to reconnect :p
[20:31] <darkrubicant> well the stop error I'm getting says it could be from a bootsector virus, which shouldn't be possible, and that should only be causing intermittent loads not a stop error everytime I try to run the setup disc.
[20:31] <darkrubicant> yea ASULutzy
[20:31] <goog> Neaai: ok.... But first i will google for "connect debounce failed"
[20:31] <Neaai> goog: yeap, suit yourself
[20:32] <Jordan_U> goog, screen + irssi = nirvana
[20:32] <ASULutzy> darkrubicant: did you try "helping" windows out? use fdisk to set the partitions up correctly and then mkfs it to NTFS?
[20:32] <Neaai> Jordan_U: now I feel enlightenend too
[20:32] <onetinsoldier> hi all
[20:33] <Neaai> 'lo onetinsoldier
[20:33] <onetinsoldier> :-)
[20:33] <fryguy> .
[20:33] <Guest85418> does anyone know about formatting before an iso install of ubuntu-eee 8.04
[20:34] <onetinsoldier> fryguy: you ever get ubunutu on that troublesome system?
[20:34] <fryguy> Guest85418: you've already asked and been answered, multiple times. do you have a new question?
[20:34] <fryguy> onetinsoldier: no
[20:34] <karn`> ok im tryin to install xubuntu ibex and it locks up and the moniter goes blank while its loading the install, i checked the integrity and did a mem test and it seems to all be good....
[20:34] <fryguy> onetinsoldier: well yes, it's installed and freezes on boot now
[20:34] <onetinsoldier> fryguy: i see
[20:34] <onetinsoldier> oh
[20:34] <Guest85418> if i understood do u think i would re ask with a new find
[20:34] <ASULutzy> Guest85418: For the 10th time, you don't have to format. Just put the CD/USB stick in, and tell it to use the whole disk.
[20:34] <n2diy> can I connect to two IRC servers at the same time?
[20:35] <mon^rch> does anyone know how to setup a MS Lifecam VX-6000?
[20:35] <fryguy> n2diy: yes
[20:35] <SpArTaKo> alguien habla español
[20:35] <SZ> Can somebody tell me how to put background color of the text of the icons permanently (not when they are selected) ?
[20:35] <karn`> anyone know why it would do taht?
[20:35] <Pici> !es | SpArTaKo
[20:35] <n2diy> fryguy, cool, how would I connect to irc.gnome.org?
[20:35] <norbert-> question: is anyone here using voipbuster with linphone?
[20:35] <Sensae> I just installed with the Kubuntu 8.10 disc, restarted. Grub error 17? Why would the installer fail to properly set up grub?
[20:35] <SZ> SparTaKo yo
[20:35] <fryguy> n2diy: /connect irc.gnome.org
[20:35] <_Zeus_> When I try to install nvidia-glx-180, it wants to remove all xserver packages.  why?
[20:35] <SpArTaKo> sz
[20:35] <SZ> SpArTaKo digame
[20:35] <SpArTaKo> tengo un problema puedo instalar el supergrub en usb?
[20:35] <n2diy> fryguy, so simple, thanks.
[20:36] <SpArTaKo> es que resulta que instale el ubuntu en una usb de 16 gigas usando el live y una maquina que no es mia
[20:36] <ASULutzy> !es > SpArTaKo
[20:36] <Amun> my uncle, who has used windows all his pc life, has got hit with a ruthless spyware. i talked him into trying ubuntu out. whats the best way to transition him? he doesnt play any games that i know of, and mainly uses his pc for photos (google's picassa, luckily). any ideas?
[20:36] <cmoijuju> Zeus, it wat to delete for install a version clean
[20:36] <SpArTaKo> y la he  regado de forma que escribi el mrb del disco de la maquina  que no es mia
[20:36] <jimjimhim> I am working to get my Sound Blaster Audgy SE installed but I  still cant get it workin
[20:36] <karn`> Slart, you still around?
[20:36] <Sensae> Why would I get grub error 17?
[20:36] <jimjimhim> Anyone good with soundcards?
[20:36] <jimjimhim> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88728/
[20:36] <fryguy> Amun: what kind of answer are you expecting?  You either install ubuntu or you don't.  Can you be more specific about what you want?
[20:36] <JonathanD> Anyone know how I can get firefox on ubuntu 8.10 working with websense?
[20:37] <SZ> Can somebody tell me how to put background color of the text of the icons permanently (not when they are selected) ?
[20:37] <ASULutzy> Amun: It's not like using firefox on Ubuntu is massively different than using IE in Windows
[20:37] <fryguy> SZ: change your desktop background color
[20:37] <Neaai> JonathanD: how would IE work differently with websense ?
[20:37] <SZ> SpArTaKo perdoname, yo no se.
[20:37] <JonathanD> Websense here is tied to active directory, I have valid credentials for it, but it doesn't prompt like a typical proxy.
[20:37] <n2diy> fryguy, didn't work?
[20:37] <fryguy> SZ:  in the appearance menu
[20:37] <fryguy> n2diy: works for me, no idea
[20:37] <SZ> fryguy, I tried nothing
[20:37] <Amun> fryguy: whats the best transition. like, how should i get him accustomed to it. i can't just shove it down his throat....
[20:37] <SZ> I have wallpaper
[20:37] <ASULutzy> Sensae: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[20:38] <fryguy> Amun: no idea what you mean
[20:38] <JonathanD> Neaai: IE and FF both work on windows. websense relies (I believe) on the active directory login status of the user on the machine.
[20:38] <SZ> I don't want desktop color
[20:38] <Amun> windows to ubuntu is different.
[20:38] <onetinsoldier> _Zeus_: use 'aptitude' to find out why... open up aptitude in a terminal. search for the nvidia-glx-180 package and when it's highlight, press your '+' key.  tell me if you have more questions when you've gotten that far
[20:38] <SZ> I have some light wallpaper, and I can't see the icons
[20:38] <Neaai> JonathanD: yes, but does IE use Active Directory? you're suggesting it does.
[20:38] <SZ> the icon text
[20:38] <Jordan_U> Amun, Put two huge icons on thee desktop, one for firefox and one for picasa
[20:39] <JonathanD> Neaai: IE can use AD. I don't think it is in this case (otherwise I Should be getting a proxy login prompt on FF)
[20:39] <JonathanD> Neaai: I suspect websense actually checks if the machine the request is coming from is logged into AD>
[20:39] <Pici> JonathanD: Indeed, thats exactly what happens.
[20:40] <fryguy> so then log your machine into AD
[20:40] <neo644> I need help running wxSand 4.4 on Ubuntu. Whenever I run it, I get: ./fsg-4.4: error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. I have libexpat1 installed.
[20:40] <JonathanD> Pici: any idea how I can get ubuntu to qualify?
[20:40] <JonathanD> fryguy: I tried.
[20:40] <elbac> When I try to instal Ubuntu on my computer (it has 7.10 on it now) run I run the cd it hangs after I select install to harddrive.  Any ideas? It's a Thinkpad T60
[20:40] <ASULutzy> Amun: I think you are overestimating the trickiness of Ubuntu. The fiance's eeepc has Ubuntu installed and she's not computer savvy whatsoever and she's able to navigate around just fine, the thing tells you when you need updates, it places all the tools you'd expect in logical places in the menu, etc.
[20:40] <Neaai> JonathanD: you want to use ubuntu then to replace windows in a network that uses AD ?
[20:41] <JonathanD> I tried following this. http://anothersysadmin.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/howto-active-directory-authentication-in-ubuntu-804/
[20:41] <cmoijuju> elbac, your computer boot or not?
[20:41] <JonathanD> Neaai: no, I want to use ubuntu on a second desktop to suplement my windows machine.
[20:41] <JonathanD> on a network that uses AD.
[20:41] <elbac> It boots with the currently installed version, however when I try to install it fresh it hangs at "Loading" after I select install to harddrive (or boot live for that matter)
[20:42] <Pici> JonathanD: I've never gotten my linux computer at work to properly work on our websense controlled internet access. I'm not sure if authenticating to AD will do it for a Linux machine.
[20:42] <fwaokda> I'm getting this error ( fuse: bad mount point `/media/mtp': No such file or directory )  when doing this in  terminal ( sudo mtpfs /media/mtp -o allow_other ) anyone know why? how I can resolve this?
[20:42] <JonathanD> Pici: thats a shame :(
[20:42] <Pici> JonathanD: I didn't spend that much time on it though.
[20:42] <fryguy> fwaokda: sudo mkdir /media/mtp
[20:42] <ASULutzy> fwaokda: sudo mkdir /media/mtp
[20:42] <JonathanD> Pici: I have other means to get around it, but I'd rather do it correctly.
[20:42] <Pici> JonathanD: Perhaps you can tunnel your traffic through your Windows PC?
[20:43] <cmoijuju> elbac, you have just ubuntu on your computer or it's un multi boot?
[20:43] <mker>  The control bar in VLC when going full screen has disappeared for me and I don't know if I did it somehow. Is there a setting to activate it again?
[20:43] <JonathanD> Pici: I have full rights to the websense admin console, if I going that route I'll exlude the IP.
[20:43] <elbac> cmoijuju, just ubuntu
[20:43] <cmoijuju> elbac, you have a problem with your driver
[20:44] <newlongtestname> I'm using Ubuntu server 8.0.4 without a GUI, just command line, and I've been trying to figure out how to change the resolution, I've looked for 2 hours with no answers...any pointers?  I want to change the number of rows and columns of text that appear upon boot...
[20:44] <cmoijuju> elbac, do you try in safe mode?
[20:44] <MegafEee> hi, what is linux?
[20:44] <Pici> JonathanD: Oh, that works. iirc, there is also a client application that can run on windows computers if they are not on AD.  I didn't have access to that file, but perhaps that can run under wine.  I don't think there is a linux native binary for it.
[20:44] <elbac> cmoijuju, let me try to figure out how to boot into safe mode
[20:44] <Sensae> I fired up grub. Typing "find /boot/grub/stage1" returns Error 15: File not found. Typing root (hd0,1) returns error 21: Selected disk does not exist. What's going on here?
[20:44] <Neaai> JonathanD: And what about adding a second ethernet to the windows machine, do NAT from it and feed the connection to your linux? This is just an idea though.
[20:44] <hischild> !linux | MegafEee
[20:44] <Jordan_U> elbac, You can try using the alternate install CD but there is a chance that you will have the same problem with the installed system that you are having with the LiveCD
[20:45] <Guest58326> km
[20:45] <JonathanD> Neaai: I can't really do that. Long term, I'm exploring this as the possibility of deploying linux to some folks here. Websense is going to stick around though, so I need to find a broadly deployable way to do this.
[20:45] <fwaokda> thanks fryguy , ASULutzy
[20:45] <elbac> Jordan_U, I just tried the CD in another ThinkPad T60, and the same thinghappened (not the best test) but I'm going to burn a new CD...
[20:45] <Sensae> Why wouldn't grub be able to see any of my drives?
[20:45] <cmoijuju> elbac, in my opinion you have a component which loose his driver
[20:45] <excitatory> how can one reinstall a package AND automatically reinstall its dependencies?  I've scoured the net and forums.. doesn't seem possible
[20:46] <Guest59141> LIST
[20:46] <ASULutzy> excitatory: If you use apt-get or aptitude or synaptic to install something it'll automatically bring down the dependencies with it
[20:46] <SOURdiesel> i just installed intrepid on my ideapad y530.  when i open gparted it reads sda1 as using 7.1GiB and 1.1GiB of swap.  is this correct?
[20:46] <n2diy> fryguy, the command here was /server
[20:46] <SOURdiesel> oops 11.1GiB of swap
[20:47] <ASULutzy> SOURdiesel: You probably don't need 11 GiB of swap space
[20:47] <Neaai> JonathanD: I'm affraid you'd want to check the openLDAP related documentation. Which is overly complicated for my tastes.
[20:47] <JonathanD> Pici: I have to wonder if there isn't another way to authenticate.
[20:47] <Jordan_U> excitatory, Right now, if you run "sudo apt-get -f install" do you get any message about any packages  that aren't needed?
[20:47] <excitatory> ASULutzy, no, i'm trying to REINSTALL.. i'm making a custom apt repository dvd for my friend's offline install.. i want to install amarok, but i need apt to download its deps so that it will have those too.
[20:47] <JonathanD> Neaai: well, I'm already logging into ubuntu using an AD account. This part works.
[20:47] <SOURdiesel> ASULutzy: i know.  but i'm trying to figure out why it set that partition so large?
[20:48] <JonathanD> and in fact my desktop is showing up in AD
[20:48] <ASULutzy> SOURdiesel: I never let it do anything auto, better to set them by hand IMO
[20:48] <masterspry> hey good day.
[20:48] <excitatory> Jordan_U, that's not what i'm trying to do.. read a few lines up
[20:48] <Neaai> JonathanD: I'd guess you're even more than halfway there to what you want to achive.
[20:48] <marge> I seem to have worong sound card driver loaded.  How can I change the module that is loaded?
[20:48] <JonathanD> Neaai: one would think...
[20:48] <marge> modules.conf or... ?
[20:48] <masterspry> i have upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10 and somehow my flashplayer ins't working.
[20:48] <JonathanD> but I still get blocked by websense ;)
[20:49] <marge> lsmod
[20:49] <SOURdiesel> ASULutzy: why would it read the sda1 partition as using 7.1GiB?
[20:49] <masterspry> i have tried many methods but somehow Firefox is not dectecting it or i don't know really nay help on that?
[20:49] <tavi----> who can give me this kind of things in linux ubuntu? http://www.mircscripts.org/archive/scripts
[20:49] <SOURdiesel> ASULutzy: shouldn't it be like 2.9GiB
[20:50] <mrcucumber> I need a feature of the current 2.6.25 or greater kernel, however my intrepid installation only has 2.6.24, does anyone know why it's not auto updating to the newer versions shown on launchpad (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux) ?
[20:50] <cmoijuju> masterspry, you must install manually flashplayer
[20:50] <Neaai> JonathanD: I'd check the messages that websesnse generates for these failed attempts. I'm not familiar with websense though, just heared of it.
[20:50] <marge> I have PulseAudio loaded but sound card is really AC97
[20:50] <hischild> mrcucumber, because those kernels aren't in the main repo's yet
[20:50] <masterspry> so how can i do that?
[20:50] <ASULutzy> excitatory: What about apt-get build-dep
[20:50] <mrcucumber> hischild:how might I get them?
[20:50] <mlm> is there a way to get a HVR950 TV tuner to work on Ubuntu 8.10????
[20:50] <Pici> marge: PulseAudio is what controls the sound on Hardy and higher.
[20:50] <excitatory> ASULutzy, isn't that only for source?  when i run it for the amarok package it doesn't work
[20:50] <Pici> !pulse | marge
[20:50] <cmoijuju> masterspry, i give you a link
[20:51] <masterspry> yeah sure
[20:51] <hischild> !kernel | mrcucumber
[20:51] <masterspry> i hope it helps.
[20:51] <hischild> mrcucumber, take a look at those pages, but manually download the kernel you need.
[20:51] <ASULutzy> excitatory: Well, maybe what Jordan_U said wasn't a bad idea... I'm sure there's a better way to do this, but you could install amarok, then sudo apt-get remove amarok, and then when you do -f install it'll tell you about all the unnecessary packages you have installed--those packages are the dependencies for amarok
[20:51] <marge> alsamixer comes up and says PulseAudio
[20:51] <hischild> ASULutzy, there's an easier way ( excitatory )
[20:51] <marge> Trying to get Skype to work.
[20:52] <excitatory> ASULutzy, true, i could also just look up the deps myself.. but i want to do it for several apps
[20:52] <marge> Not having any luck
[20:52] <Neaai> JonathanD: but I tell you one thing. In a previous job I had, they used AD and websense and all. Now, with a liveCD, I'd boot up, set the ip addresses and gateway and nameservers as they were in windows, and Iwas good to go.
[20:52] <cmoijuju> masterspry, http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/flash-plugin-<IP_ADDRESS>-release.i386.rpm
[20:52] <Thark> Hello, after inserting my live CD Ubuntu starts to load up then all I see is a mess of garbled lines. I have a GeForce 6800 GS, what could be the problem?
[20:52] <marge> THought it was sound driver... but maybe not.
[20:52] <excitatory> hischild, i knew there had to be :D
[20:52] <marge> Not sure what to do.
[20:52] <Jordan_U> excitatory, If you apt-cache show amarok you can get all of the dependencies, then just feed them to "apt-get install --reinstall"
[20:52] <excitatory> I'm this close to just mirroring the official repos
[20:52] <JonathanD> Neaai: I already have the right DNS and gateway :)
[20:52] <cmoijuju> masterspry, this is a rpm you have to compile and flash will fonctionn
[20:52] <JonathanD> but ty :)
[20:53] <masterspry> sorry can you tell me how?
[20:53] <Jordan_U> excitatory, The DVD images for Ubuntu contain all of main
[20:53] <Pici> !flash | masterspry cmoijuju
[20:53] <amine> Hello, I have a few questions about ubuntu - does it use the latest kernel or does it backport security patches to an old stable one? Also, do the repositories have cutting-edge releases or just old stable ones? (e.g. a new version of eclipse comes out, does it get released on the repositories after a few days or after a few weeks when deemed stable/secure)?
[20:53] <masterspry> sorry for asking.
[20:53] <hischild> excitatory, you need the entire dependency chain for a given application?
[20:53] <mrcucumber> hmm actually, looks like I have hardy installed instead
[20:53] <Neaai> JonathanD: that means you use maybe a newer release of websense. Or maybe it was deploied otherwise in my case. idk.
[20:53] <hischild> cmoijuju, don't suggest using an RPM please.
[20:53] <ASULutzy> amine: Heh, you get a brand new release every 6 months, how much more cutting edge do you want ;)
[20:54] <cmoijuju> hischild, ok
[20:54] <excitatory> hischild, yes, i'm attempting to download a bunch of apps and their deps so i can use APTonCD to create a custom repo DVD for my friend's offline install.
[20:54] <cmoijuju> hischild, sry
[20:54] <Neaai> rpm? who said rpm? who?
[20:54] <ASULutzy> For flash, why again not just sudo apt-get install flash-plugin-nonfree
[20:54] <hischild> excitatory, you may want to take a look at aptitude why <application>
[20:55] <mib_mbbh9h> When is ubuntu prefered over windows? I mean, what does linux do better, and what does windows do better. Need to know what is best for my needs.
[20:55] <Pici> !ot | mib_mbbh9h
[20:55] <amine> ASULutzy, I don't really care about the ubuntu versioning system.. I care about the version of the application running on the system
[20:55] <JonathanD> Something else...
[20:55] <mrcucumber> any advantage of using 64bit over 32bit?
[20:55] <fryguy> mib_mbbh9h: ubuntu typically uses less resources than windows, is free, has a more customizable interface, provides robust programming environments for a variety of programming languages
[20:55] <JonathanD> when logging in using AD, I get "Internal error" "Failed to initialize HAL!"
[20:55] <fryguy> mrcucumber: faster in some applications, and able to address more ram
[20:55] <hischild> amine, the problem is that the versions used in a given version of ubuntu are matched to each other.
[20:55] <JonathanD> but the login works, etc.
[20:56] <mon^rch> does anyone know how to setup a MS Lifecam VX-6000?
[20:56] <hischild> fryguy, please discuss that topic in !ot
[20:56] <fryguy> hischild: which topic?
[20:56] <amine> hischild, what does that mean
[20:56] <hischild> fryguy, ubuntu/windows discussion.
[20:56] <mib_mbbh9h> fryguy: I've been looking a lot, and programming environments does not seem as good as what I find on windows.
[20:56] <fryguy> mib_mbbh9h: so then use windows
[20:56] <Talendel> Have 8.10 installed, with Educational add-ons.  Trying to find information on system administration and security.  First time working with Ubuntu, and I need to lock out access to certain items on the user account, per request.
[20:57] <hischild> amine, that updating a given program and not the other, will likely break eventually.
[20:57] <fryguy> hischild: sorry I was not aware that talking about ubuntu features was off topic
[20:57] <ASULutzy> mib_mbbh9h: lol, what?
[20:57] <Neaai> mib_mbbh9h: the linux tcp-ip stack is the fastest there is in the os arena. If you use servers, you can easily jail them in chrooted environments to get more control in case of breaching.
[20:57] <hischild> mib_975o21, fryguy, take that discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[20:57] <fryguy> Neaai: that is not true
[20:57] <ASULutzy> mib_mbbh9h: I guess that translates to, "Linux doesn't have Microsoft Visual Studio." haha
[20:57] <hischild> fryguy, it is, as this is a support channel, not a discussion channel
[20:57] <mib_mbbh9h> fryguy: Except for graphical stuff, configurability and resources, there is no major difference?
[20:57] <Neaai> fryguy: which part ?
[20:57] <mib_mbbh9h> ASULutzy: Nope
[20:57] <fryguy> Neaai: tcp/ip stack fastest in os arena
[20:57] <hischild> excitatory, you seen aptitude why?
[20:58] <mooglenorph> Hello. I am looking for a book covering ubuntu that would have helpful information for someone who has trouble with the idea of things like resizing windows, buring CDROMs, applications, etc. (is this offtopic?)
[20:58] <Neaai> fryguy: to what I know it is. AIX pars maybe.
[20:58] <mooglenorph> I googled around for book reviews, but everything I could find seemed to be much more advanced than that.
[20:58] <fryguy> mib_mbbh9h: not that I know of.  You asked a question that is well answered and documented on the wiki, and the full response is several pages long
[20:58] <ASULutzy> mib_mbbh9h: Please educate yourself. Google mandatory access control, look up the merits of a mostly modular OS, look at userspace etc... There's plenty of literature on the topic, no sense trolling.
[20:58] <fryguy> Neaai: freebsd and solaris too
[20:59] <excitatory> hischild, yea.. i'm not having trouble manually looking up deps.. i just want a more automated solution since i have several dozen apps i want to do this with.
[20:59] <mib_mbbh9h> fryguy: Link please
[20:59] <Solarium> moogle,  i searched for same type of info / book but didn't find anything nocive friendly
[21:00] <Solarium> moogle, so i reserted to using google / frums for the more simplistic questions, the problem i only learn when i have "problems"
[21:00] <mib_mbbh9h> ASULutzy: Not trolling here, and btw, I have already read tons of websites on this topic.
[21:00] <Neaai> fryguy: well about solaris I read something about it around one year ago. freebsd I could believe to be good. but the article about solaris mentioned some things that made me think about it. didn't understand it all, but seemed a pretty decent article to me.
[21:00] <Solarium> mooglenorph, ,  i searched for same type of info / book but didn't find anything nocive friendly
[21:00] <fryguy> mib_mbbh9h: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows  <-- some basics
[21:00] <hischild> excitatory, use apt-proxy to store the packages on a given system, then copy those over to his system?
[21:00] <Solarium> mooglenorph, , so i reserted to using google / frums for the more simplistic questions, the problem i only learn when i have "problems"
[21:00] <ASULutzy> mib_mbbh9h: this channel is specifically for ubuntu support, not friendly ubuntu banner, feel free to join the offtopic channel for that
[21:00] <hischild> !newusers | mooglenorph
[21:00] <mib_mbbh9h> ASULutzy, I did, but then someone replied here...
[21:01] <jorvis> mooglenorph: http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/08/13/linux-for-parents-a-beginners-guide-to-ubuntu/
[21:01] <mib_mbbh9h> fryguy: That is mostly about the GUI differences, and basic stuff. I want more of like advantages/disadvantages
[21:02] <vico> ??
[21:02] <[Spooky]> Is it hard to build a deb file from a *.tar.bz2 file?
[21:02] <mib_mbbh9h> Most I find is written by fanboys
[21:03] <mooglenorph> jorvis, oh, thanks! that looks pretty useful. (this actually would be for my dad)
[21:03] <fryguy> [Spooky]: no
[21:03] <Jimi__Hendrix> can you install xubuntu from a USB?
[21:03] <Neaai> mib_mbbh9h: one thing I remember for example is process isolation. linux claims better, but I can't know for these things are beyond my grasp.
[21:03] <[Spooky]> fryguy: You have any tip of a good tool?
[21:03] <Talendel> I have Ubuntu 8.10 installed, with the educational add-ons included, but I need to remove access to certain features of the OS.  I'm putting this together for a friend's kids, and he wants them to have all the edu stuff, but doesn't want them to be able to go on the 'net, and I want to make sure that their account is restricted.  Not familiar with how to do that as I'm more of a RH/SLAX user, so Deb is new to me.
[21:04] <fryguy> [Spooky]: dpkg
[21:04] <Jimi__Hendrix> autoidentif
[21:04] <Jimi__Hendrix> sorry
[21:04] <Jimi__Hendrix> can you install xubuntu from a USB?
[21:05] <fryguy> Jimi__Hendrix: yes
[21:05] <ASULutzy> Jimi__Hendrix: Sure why not
[21:05] <[Spooky]> fryguy: Thanks.
[21:05] <Neaai> Talendel: for package management, synaptic is your friend.
[21:06] <Talendel> Neaai: Been using synaptic.  I've got the packages installed, and removed, accordingly.
[21:06] <Neaai> Talendel: for network related things, I use /etc/network/interfaces
[21:06] <Talendel> Neaai: I just want to make sure that, after I turn it over to them, the *kids* can't mess around with any of that.  I need to know how to limit their accounts from even being able to *see* this other items.
[21:07] <Jimi__Hendrix> how would i do it?
[21:07] <fryguy> !usb | Jimi__Hendrix
[21:07] <Neaai> Talendel: well, the usual *nix tools come handy the same way. chown, chmod, iptables, etc.
[21:07] <Jimi__Hendrix> thank you
[21:07] <bartmon> Hi! If anyone uses VirtualBox, can you tell me which command your  Applications menu shortcut executes?
[21:07] <Talendel> Neaai: I'll check /interfaces, and see what I can do in there.  Thank you for that.
[21:07]  * Talendel nods
[21:08] <fryguy> bartmon: virtualbox
[21:08] <Thark> Hello, after inserting my live CD Ubuntu starts to load up then all I see is a mess of garbled lines. I have a GeForce 6800 GS, what could be the problem?
[21:08] <Neaai> Talendel: tailoring systems, any system, is best done 'old school'. And those are all there in any flavor of linux.
[21:08] <Talendel> Okay.  I just wasn't sure if there were different calls to be made, or if there was a different syntax.  Not really familiar with the Deb structure, and don't want to bork it.
[21:08] <fryguy> Thark: your computer doesn't work with the liveCd.  try the alternative install
[21:08] <bartmon> fryguy: Which version are you using? OSE?
[21:08] <fryguy> bartmon: yes
[21:09] <fryguy> bartmon: not on ubuntu, but that is the name of the executable that ubuntu uses
[21:09] <Neaai> Talendel: one you'll get to glance it, I'm sure you'll like it. More as time will go by :)
[21:09] <fryguy> bartmon: when you install from the repository
[21:09] <Neaai> once*
[21:09] <Talendel> What I was familiar with, in RH, was the 'Session Manager' option.  Let you configure what a user was allowed to even see, after login, along with everything else.
[21:09] <Talendel> And, still, thank you for the advice and the info!
[21:09] <Neaai> Talendel: see as in what sense ?
[21:10] <bartmon> fryguy: I have the proprietary Sun version and it doesn't install any app called virtualbox. The weird thing is that I just upgraded to 2.10 and the menu shortcut just disappeared.
[21:10] <Talendel> I really wasn't sure what I was getting into with this, but I had been told that Ubuntu was the easiest for people to get into, so I figured I'd give it a shot, for his kids.
[21:10] <CarlFK> is there a command line way to upgrade from hardy to ibex?  (that does not include editing sources.list... trying to avoid that)
[21:10] <Slart> !upgrade | CarlFK
[21:10] <fryguy> bartmon: did the propriety version install into /opt?
[21:11] <Talendel> Neaai: As in, what programs even appeared in the menu/on the desktop/in the panels, what they were allowed to access, what commands they had access to and didn't, and whether or not they could add or remove anything, and whether or not they could make changes to the panels, themselves.
[21:11] <elbac> cmoijuju, it was a bad CD :)
[21:11] <bartmon> fryguy: $ which VBox \n /usr/bin/VBox
[21:11] <Quartz> hi
[21:11] <darkrubicant> yea
[21:11] <darkrubicant> I've decided to use vmware instead
[21:11] <Quartz> anyone german here?
[21:11] <darkrubicant> anyone know of a good way to get it through synaptic or aptitude?
[21:12] <fryguy> bartmon: I don't think that is the right executable, but you can try it
[21:12] <bartmon> fryguy: Wait, i realised what i just wrote :P
[21:12] <Neaai> Talendel: I'm not familiar with rhel. I'm sure there's something similar to this in ubuntu/debian but i haven't had the need to after all. You might ask for advice in #debian as well. I can tell you're not affraid you're not afraid to mess with the system so it's quite fine :)
[21:12] <bartmon> fryguy: I tried launching it already but I get an error: "Unknown application - VBox" even though something is installed by that name. :/
[21:13] <Quartz> does soemwone now how i can change the irc-server at the opera irc-client(sry for my bad english)
[21:13] <Quartz> someone
[21:13] <Talendel> Neaai: I've had my hands dirty in code, before.  Nothing new there, LoL!  My main concern is, since the structure is new to me, and I'm trying to have this ready and out the door so that he's got time to wrap it and all(holiday gift for the kids), I want to make sure I don't bork anything, and have to go and fix it before they really even get much use out of it.
[21:14] <Freeaqingme> I want to do some QoS, should I look at L7, or something else?
[21:14] <Talendel> And, I'll check out #debian.  They may very well have some suggestions or advice.
[21:14] <CarlFK> Slart: thanks - exactly what I was looking for: /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades sudo do-release-upgrade
[21:14] <fep> i have some trouble playing dvd and videos in my ubuntu laptop, anyone know about any "package" or something i need with codecs/drivers?
[21:15] <fep> i get an error when playing
[21:15] <fryguy> Freeaqingme: i'd recommend switching to an operating system that has PF, like FreeBSD or OpenBSD.  I've found them to be much more performant than the solutions that ubuntu offers
[21:15] <Neaai> Talendel: yeap. And this also sums it up for me today. I'm off. Have a good day all.
[21:15] <abojoory_> السلام عليكم
[21:15] <Talendel> Thanks for the help, Neaai!  Take care and be well!
[21:15] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
[21:15] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address)
[21:15] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> When trying to load radeon drivers.
[21:15] <Talendel> Hopefully it's not snowing where you are, like it is out here.
[21:16] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Anyone know a fix?
[21:16] <[Spooky]> fryguy: Hm dosent work that good.. :/
[21:16] <Freeaqingme> fryguy: PF? Besides, though you're thanked for the advise, I do want to stay with ubuntu for now
[21:16] <Neaai> Talendel: thanks. you too. No. it's raining a litle but it's 10deg.Cels. so it's very fine. I'm off. lol
[21:16] <onetinsoldier> fep: i don't know if i can be of any help, but what are you trying to use to play your video right now? what application?
[21:17]  * Talendel chuckles and nods, being at 1°C, where he is; puts on an extra layer
[21:17] <fep> onetinsoldier: i have tried vlc, realplayer, totem movie player and gnome player
[21:17] <fep> onetinsoldier: and one other i dont remember the name of
[21:17] <emarvets> I am noob, trying to start a Ubuntu Live CD, gives me an ata1:00 error....can anyone tell me what device is ata1?  I have one sata HDD and 1 IDE dvd drive
[21:17] <EvilPizza> hey, is this a help channel?
[21:17] <EvilPizza> I need help with ubuntu
[21:17] <hischild> EvilPizza, it is
[21:17] <EvilPizza> thanks
[21:18] <EvilPizza> Im kind of a noob lolz
[21:18] <EvilPizza> i used wubi to install
[21:18] <EvilPizza> onto a secondary drive
[21:18] <hischild> !ask | EvilPizza
[21:18] <EvilPizza> and i want ubuntu to automount my c drive
[21:18] <EvilPizza> oh ok
[21:18] <predator363> hey i have a failure in dmesg and its only 2 lines do i need to use paste bin or can i paste it in here and can someone help me figure out the failures?
[21:18] <fryguy> EvilPizza: so add an entry for the device to /etc/fstab
[21:18] <onetinsoldier> fep: mplayer the oter one you are trying to think of?
[21:18] <EvilPizza> what does that mean?
[21:18] <emarvets> HELP: trying to start a Ubuntu Live CD, gives me an ata1:00 error....can anyone tell me what device is ata1?  I have one sata HDD and 1 IDE dvd drive
[21:19] <Vooloo> I'm trying to access my windows xp FS from ubuntu live cd and I get this: DBus error, no reply, did not receive a reply
[21:19] <fep> onetinsoldier: i dont know, no one of the players wotrk
[21:19] <fep> eork
[21:19] <hischild> fryguy, he's new to ubuntu. He won't understand "add a line to /etc/fstab"
[21:19] <redwyrm> I'm having trouble using cryptsetup... it worked fine in 8.04 and 7.10, but it doesn't seem to be working with 8.10... it says "Command failed: No key available with this passphrase." when I use luksOpen and the correct password
[21:19] <fryguy> EvilPizza: it means edit the file called /etc/fstab and add a corresponding line for your device so that it mounts at startup
[21:19] <Vooloo> unable to mount
[21:19] <fep> sorry, work
[21:19] <EvilPizza> oh ok
[21:19] <EvilPizza> so i just add that and it'll automount?
[21:19] <fep> isnt it a package? like in windows, k-lite package or vlc?
[21:19] <fryguy> hischild: editing a text file is a pretty trivial task
[21:19] <onetinsoldier> fep: it sounds like you have tried a number of options already. i don't know what to say or how to help. sorry
[21:19] <Majost> EvilPizza: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-406212.html
[21:19] <bartmon> EvilPizza: The fstab is probably to difficult for you at the moment.
[21:19] <EvilPizza> alright
[21:19] <hischild> fryguy, not to someone who is new to ubuntu, let alone what to put in it.
[21:19] <CarlFK> EvilPizza: when you boot ubuntu, hit Places, computer - do you see an entry for your drive on the left? (it will probably be just the size in gig, and an eject icon next to it)
[21:20] <fryguy> hischild: and I disagree
[21:20] <emarvets> HELP ME PLEASE?: trying to start a Ubuntu Live CD, gives me an ata1:00 error....can anyone tell me what device is ata1?  I have one sata HDD and 1 IDE dvd drive
[21:20] <fep> anyone else know what drivers or codecs i need beside vls and the standard software to play dvd and mpeg?
[21:20] <fryguy> hischild: feel free to offer meaningful input instead of criticizing me if you would like
[21:20] <fep> vlc
[21:20] <darkrubicant> I'm trying to get KVM running, but it's saying something about it requiring hardware acceleration, how do I enable that?
[21:20] <EvilPizza> i see a drive that says 750 GB hard drive
[21:20] <EvilPizza> but it only shows up if i double click it
[21:20] <Vooloo> how do I mount a broken windows xp disk in ubuntu live cd? :[
[21:20] <fryguy> Vooloo: how is it broken
[21:20] <EvilPizza> like I have stuff (like my background) accessing it, but it only shows up if i open the drive
[21:21] <erUSUL> darkrubicant: if your cpu does not have the hardware kvm need you can't do anything about it
[21:21] <EvilPizza> and i think that it's opening it
[21:21] <Vooloo> fryguy: scratches in the discs I think
[21:21] <suriro> fep: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[21:21] <redwyrm> never mind... I realized I had to modprobe for aes and dm-crypt
[21:21] <Freeaqingme> fryguy: so /if/ I were to keep using ubuntu, you would advise L7 ?
[21:21] <darkrubicant> erUSUL, I was checking into kvm, and it said to enter a line into terminal and it said if it printed anything it did have it, and it printed lots.
[21:21] <bartmon> If anyone can help with fglrx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6375288&postcount=3
[21:22] <vivgrn> hi guys
[21:22] <fryguy> Vooloo: take a look at using dd or ddrescue to get the data migrated to a good disk, and then consult data recovery specialists
[21:22] <fryguy> Freeaqingme: i've already told you what i think
[21:22] <fep> suriro: dvd should not be a restricted format?
[21:22] <fryguy> fep: it is
[21:22] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
[21:22] <WebcamWonder> Hey guys. Does anyone know if it is possible to symlink an NTFS directory under an ext3 folder?
[21:22] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address)
[21:22] <CarlFK> EvilPizza: then I think you need to dink with fstab.
[21:22] <predator363> i dont want to span but should i ask my question again?
[21:22] <emarvets> trying to start a Ubuntu Live CD, gives me an error for ata1....can anyone tell me what device is ata1?  I have one sata HDD and 1 IDE dvd drive
[21:22] <EvilPizza> ok
[21:22] <EvilPizza> ill try that
[21:22] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> When trying to load radon drivrs, anyone know a fix?
[21:22] <EvilPizza> thanks guys
[21:22] <erUSUL> darkrubicant: can you post the output of that command and the exact error you get when you run kvm ??
[21:22] <fep> fryguy: oh, ok
[21:22] <fryguy> WebcamWonder: symlinks between different file systems works fine
[21:22] <erUSUL> pate | darkrubicant
[21:22] <fep> i read some
[21:22] <erUSUL> !paste | darkrubicant
[21:22] <darkrubicant> sure
[21:22] <Vooloo> fryguy: if I could afford that
[21:22] <fryguy> fep: look up DVD jon, and decss
[21:22] <javimansilla> can I get some help configuring a wifi card broadcom 4328 on a dell inspiron 1720 just upgraded to intrepid :-) ?
[21:22] <WebcamWonder> fryguy: Awesome. Thanks :)
[21:22] <fryguy> Vooloo: so then restore your backup
[21:23] <vivgrn> i have been trying to install matlab R14 on my 8.10 but it shows me a warning like "open-GL library cannot be acessed ". any help?
[21:23] <fep> fryguy: on that link it says "Ubuntu can play the most popular non-free media formats, including DVD"
[21:23] <Doonz> !topic
[21:23] <fryguy> fep: and it can
[21:23] <Doonz> hmm
[21:23] <fep> fryguy: well, i get an error when im playing it
[21:23] <Doonz> whats the other channel to hang in?
[21:23] <fep> i dont know if i miss some codecs or drivers
[21:23] <fryguy> fep: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:23] <diffred> how can I take an screenshot within the terminal? something like: takescreenshot -w 'foo.jpg'
[21:23] <emarvets> trying to start a Ubuntu Live CD, gives me an error for ata1....can anyone tell me what device is ata1?  I have one sata HDD and 1 IDE dvd drive
[21:23] <Vooloo> fryguy: they haven't backed it up recently
[21:23] <fep> fryguy: i did
[21:23] <fryguy> fep: it's non-free, so it can't be exported, and it's not legal to have as part of the base distribution
[21:23] <fep> fryguy: did not work
[21:24] <CarlFK> diffred: import foo.png
[21:24] <EvilPizza> wait so im confused. what do i write in the fstab file?
[21:24] <fryguy> fep: what doesn't work about it?
[21:24] <darkrubicant> erUSUL, http://paste.ubuntu.com/88764/
[21:24] <bartmon> vivgrn: Does the matlab documentation state any dependencies ? They're programs/libraries matlab relies upon.
[21:24] <fep> fryguy: i isntalled it, and it still wont play dvd
[21:24] <diffred> CarlFK: I mean the whole screenshot, and without any kind of GUI asking for anything
[21:25] <emarvets> HELP ME PLEASE: trying to start a Ubuntu Live CD, gives me an error for ata1....can anyone tell me what device is ata1?  I have one sata HDD and 1 IDE dvd drive
[21:25] <fryguy> fep: what is it, and what makes you think it won't play? does it crash the machine? does it provide an error message? does it destroy the disk?  "does not work" isn't very descriptive
[21:25] <vivgrn> fep: not
[21:25] <fryguy> fep: please be more specific
[21:25] <EvilPizza> Hey, guys. what do I write in the fstab file to mount the drive?
[21:25] <erUSUL> darkrubicant: ok it is just a permission problem... you need to add yourself to the kvm group « sudo adduser $USER kvm »
[21:25] <darkrubicant> I just used sudo and it gave me a bunch of stuff, but i'm not sure what to do with kvm
[21:25] <EvilPizza> It's my C Drive, 750.1 GB, ntfs
[21:25] <fep> fryguy: well, i can sure repeat myself here. it comes an error
[21:26] <fryguy> EvilPizza: <devicename> <mountpoint> <filesystem> <mountoptions>
[21:26] <kurrata> EvilPizza do you know uuid for the drive you want to mount?
[21:26] <predator363> dang this rooms busy
[21:26] <EvilPizza> whats the uuid?
[21:26] <supply> hi folks
something like disk ID number tipe blkid in consule
[21:26] <emarvets> HELP ME PLEASE: trying to start a Ubuntu Live CD, gives me an error for ata1....can anyone tell me what device is ata1?  I have one sata HDD and 1 IDE dvd drive
[21:26] <unimatrix9> hi there
[21:27] <bartmon> EvilPizza: If the configuration line is valid the drive is usually mounted on bootup  of Ubuntu. UUID is a unique ID of the Windows partition
[21:27] <fryguy> emarvets: ata1 is your hard disk controller
[21:27] <EvilPizza> i don't know what that means.. sorry. I'm really noobish when it comes to this stuff
[21:27] <erUSUL> emarvets: ata1 is the first sata port i guess
[21:27] <[Spooky]> Guess dpkg cant build whitout a sertian file...
[21:27] <EvilPizza> so do i put the id thing into the file?
[21:27] <emarvets> fryguy: disk controller not disk
[21:27] <fryguy> emarvets: right
[21:27] <unimatrix9> i have something strange , in the right corner of the gnome menu i have three trash cans, how would i remove them?
[21:27] <erUSUL> unimatrix9: right click on them remove from panel
[21:28] <unimatrix9> oh, my mistake, pessulus is locking it down , sorry
[21:28] <diffred> how can I take an screenshot within the terminal? something like: takescreenshot -w 'foo.jpg', without any kind of user involment? using import foo.jpg asks me to click to some window
[21:28] <unimatrix9> found the solution
[21:28] <unimatrix9> :)
[21:28] <fryguy> diffred: take a look at the scrot command
[21:28] <diffred> fryguy: thanks :)
[21:29] <predator363> hey im getting an error message from dmesg its only 2 line can i paste it here and get help with it or do i need to use pastebin for just 2 line and also can someone helpme with it?
[21:29] <unimatrix9> thanks youi all
[21:29] <unimatrix9> bye bye
[21:29] <EvilPizza> guys im still really confused
[21:29] <CarlFK> diffred: import -window root screen.png
 UUID=86C441C8C441BB67	/windows_nfts ntfs-3g    users,uid=martins,gid=martins,fmask=133,dmask=022,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0  add this line to fstab file, just channge uuid to the one you have and "martins" to your username/group
[21:29] <EvilPizza> ok thx
[21:29] <EvilPizza> how do i find the uuid
[21:30] <tgblb> Flash crashes firefox anytime a flash object tries to load. I've tried reinstaling both firefox and flash. I've tried rebooting several times. Still does it. Any help here?
[21:30] <jrib> !uuid | EvilPizza
[21:30] <diffred> CarlFK: oh yeah that's it !! thanks :)
open consule and tipe in blkid it should give out list of uuid
[21:30] <jrib> tgblb: ubuntu version?
[21:30] <tgblb> 8.04
[21:30] <EvilPizza> ok thanks
[21:30] <jrib> tgblb: know issue in 8.04.  Try 8.10
[21:30] <fryguy> is there any reason why we are having him use uuid rather than device node?
[21:30] <WebcamWonder> Guys if I want to create a user for vsftpd, what should be the main group? ftpusers? And shell should be /dev/null?
[21:30] <jrib> !upgrade > tgblb
[21:30] <Setebos> What is the easiest way to make a shortcut that will open a terminal and run the command ( wine /media/disk/Dylans\ Space/Program\ Files/Flash\ 5/Flash.exe )
[21:31] <jrib> fryguy: because those change?
[21:31] <fryguy> jrib: no
[21:31] <sacabonos> guys I am compiling a package and make command gives me Error 100, what is that suppose to mean?
[21:31] <jrib> fryguy: eh?
[21:31] <tgblb> Alright, I'll try upgrading, thanks.
[21:31] <jrib> sacabonos: nothing.  Provide more context
[21:31] <sacabonos> jrib: ok gimme a sec
[21:32] <fryguy> jrib: jrib hard drive number has been fixed number for several versions of linux
[21:32] <jrib> fryguy: nope
[21:32] <zbyszek> anybody using elisa?
[21:33] <zbyszek> and willing to help me?
[21:33] <Doonz> then this may sound stupid but what is the max ammount of Hdd's a linux system can have?
[21:33] <erUSUL> Doonz: i do not know of a limit for it
[21:33] <gleesond> has anyone heard of a program for streaming a video library?
[21:33] <gleesond> like jinzora or ampache for audio
[21:33] <ikonia> Doonz: as many as your buss will support, there is a physical limit but its very high
[21:34] <Doonz> well mulktiple raid cards with port multiplier support
[21:34] <Doonz> multiple*
[21:34] <Doonz> cause im looking at buying another 10x 1tb drives
[21:34] <ikonia> Doonz: that won't be a problem at all
[21:34] <ikonia> Doonz: small stuff, not a problem
[21:34] <Doonz> thought so
[21:35] <Doonz> cheers
[21:35] <sacabonos> I am trying to build NTFS-3G to have it installed on my "Western Digital MyBook World Edition" NAS device which I have to put to work as a file server on a windows 2k3/2k8 environment but it comes with ex3 fs support only
[21:35] <sacabonos> I am following this tutorial to do so http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/BuildNTFS3G
[21:35] <EvilPizza> hey im back
[21:35] <EvilPizza> i lost the thing you told me to put in
[21:35] <gleesond> or I guess I should ask has anyone ever set up vls?
[21:35] <EvilPizza> could you say it again
[21:35] <EvilPizza> the line to put into fstab
[21:36] <sacabonos> I am having trouble compiling the master makefile in the same page
[21:36] <fryguy> jrib: please review the linux kernel changelogs for 2.6.19,  devices no longer randomly renumber
[21:36] <kurrata> EvilPizza:  UUID=86C441C8C441BB67	/windows_nfts ntfs-3g    users,uid=martins,gid=martins,fmask=133,dmask=022,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 just change the uiid
[21:36] <raylu> sacabonos: why does a file server need ntfs-3g support?
[21:36] <EvilPizza> thank you
[21:36] <jrib> sacabonos: ubuntu comes with ntfs-3g
[21:36] <ra_> Hey
[21:37] <ra_> Is there a way to get the old Azureus back, this vuze stuff is way to fancy
[21:37] <kurrata> EvilPizza:  /windows_nfts change this to location where u want you hard drive to show up and change both "martins" to your username
[21:37] <sacabonos> I know but as I said I need to install it on my NAS device
[21:37] <jrib> sacabonos: how is this related to ubuntu?
[21:37] <EvilPizza> what was it that i put into the console to get the uuid?
[21:37] <jrib> !uuid > EvilPizza
[21:37] <raylu> kurrata: that's unnecessary
[21:37] <sacabonos> the guy who made the compiling tutorial used ubuntu , thats all
[21:37] <raylu> kurrata: you can just mount with the "user" option
oh didnt know that
[21:38] <sacabonos> I have so little knowledge in linux and I started using ubuntu just recently
[21:38] <CoUrPsE|DeAd>  drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 --- drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address) ---- drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address) --- drmOpenDevice: Open failed
[21:38] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Anyone got any tips for me?
[21:38] <raylu> sacabonos: nas = ?
[21:38] <vazdyk> Hi, i installed JDK, not from "Add/remove programs" but i copied BIN file from site and installed. And when i type "java" in terminal, it purpose me to install java. How to correct it?
[21:39] <fryguy> raylu: nas stands for network attached storage
[21:39] <fryguy> raylu: as opposed to SAN, which stands for storage area network
[21:39] <raylu> fryguy: does the nas serve the files or is it just attached to something attached to the network?
[21:39] <sacabonos> raylu: I need to use NTFS to have full ACL support so I can just dump the file server that I am using
[21:39] <sacabonos> fryguy: thanks for explaining that
[21:40] <fryguy> raylu: it can either be configured to share via NFS or samba, or in the case of SANs, can use something like fibrechannel or iscsi to export the direct device to another machine via a network protocol
[21:40] <vazdyk> any idea?
[21:40] <raylu> !md
[21:40] <georgy_28> vazdyk, : try this : sudo update-alternatives --config java and chooce the right version
[21:40] <suriro> CoUrPsE|DeAd: you might want to disable drm in xorg.conf
[21:41] <raylu> fryguy: so why does he need to build ntfs-3g?
[21:41] <raylu> georgy_28: he doesn't have it insatlled
[21:41] <fryguy> raylu: if the drive that he is sharing has an ntfs filesystem on it, then he needs ntfs
[21:41] <raylu> fryguy: er, why does he need to build ntfs-3g?
[21:41] <fryguy> raylu: i have no idea. he's probably wrong
[21:41] <raylu> as opposed to just grabbing it from the repos
[21:41] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> I have dri module, but no drm module.
[21:42] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> suriro, ^^
[21:42] <sacabonos> raylu: I need to have NTFS permissions on the NAS device
[21:42] <raylu> !romanian
[21:42] <raylu> ah ha.
[21:42] <bartmon> Hi again! Does anyone know of a howto on setting up extra mouse buttons in 8.10? Now that input devices are hotpluggble xorg.conf doesn't contain any configuration anymore.
[21:42] <raylu> !romanian | vazdyk
[21:42] <raylu> !ru | vazdyk
[21:42] <fryguy> sacabonos: the permissions go away as soon as the mount is exported
[21:42] <raylu> !tk | vazdyk
[21:42] <raylu> :(
[21:42] <fryguy> sacabonos: when you share via samba or nfs, you are using the cifs or nfs filesystems, not ntfs
[21:42] <jrib> bartmon: your mouse uses evdev by default now.  Just use xbindkeys or imwheel like before
[21:42] <vax_> hi
[21:43] <bartmon> jrib: Thanks, i'll check it out!
[21:43] <fryguy> sacabonos: and if you are exporting as iscsi, it's the initiator machine that controls the filesystem, not the target
[21:43] <sacabonos> fryguy: so this means that I can't use NTFS with this NAS
[21:43] <fryguy> sacabonos: it doesn't mean that at all
[21:43] <heril> where is the keymap file located for the purpose of swaping two keys on my keyboard in the console?
[21:43] <fryguy> sacabonos: ntfs is a local filesystem, it doesn't get shared over the network
[21:43] <hub_> i have an USB Stick 8 GB. If i Copy 7.2 GB may of Files on it, then it is freeze on random %... why any idea ?
[21:44] <raylu> heril: it doesn't exist by default. ~/.Xmodmap
[21:44] <raylu> heril: though the default is in /etc/xmodmap or something like that
[21:45] <sacabonos> fryguy: just pear with me am sorry for my ignorance. I just need to know if I need to do something to make this NAS work with my current domain and Active directory and have certain users in my Active directory access certain files and such
[21:46] <fryguy> sacabonos: no idea
[21:46] <raylu> schmidtm: instead of building ntfs-3g, just get it from the repos
[21:46] <sacabonos> fryguy: do you know where can I turn to for help, as google isn't that useful when don't know what your looking for
[21:47] <heril> raylu: and that works for the tty consoles?
[21:47] <fryguy> sacabonos: you'd probably be better served using cifs
[21:47] <raylu> heril: of course not
[21:47] <raylu> heril: i'm not sure how to get it to work for the ttys
[21:47] <fryguy> sacabonos: you aren't accessing the disks locally, so ntfs permission semantics don't mean much
[21:47] <raylu> er...
[21:47] <heril> that's what I need, I already had it working for X
[21:47] <raylu> sacabonos: instead of building ntfs-3g, just get it from the repos
[21:48] <sacabonos> fryguy: and how is that working is it similar to NTFS permissions in windows?
[21:48] <fryguy> it's the same permissions as windows fileshares
[21:48] <tuxracer> Does anyone here know C?
[21:48] <raylu> sacabonos: Since Unslung runs a 2.4 kernel, we have to use FUSE v2.5.3 - Try to use the latest version of NTFS-3G which is v1.2812 as of this writing.
[21:48] <fryguy> tuxracer: yes, but your question is probably better suited for another channel, such as #c or #programming
[21:48] <jrib> tuxracer: ##c
[21:48] <raylu> sacabonos: unslung?
[21:48] <jrib> tuxracer: (and ask a better question)
[21:48] <D0pamine> hello , i'm having a little issue here , my friend installed adobe-flashplugin and i cant seem to install flashplugin-nonfree now
[21:49] <D0pamine> i cannot find adobe-flashplugin anywhere in apt
[21:49] <raylu> D0pamine: aptitude update
[21:49] <sacabonos> raylu: yes its some sort of os for open DSL modems
[21:49] <raylu> sacabonos: o.0.o.0
[21:49] <D0pamine> raylu , i did that :S
[21:50] <chahibi> Is there a difference between font rendering in vanilla Debian and Ubuntu?
[21:50] <raylu> D0pamine: aptitude search flashplugin
[21:50] <heril> D0pamine: can you not remove it with apt?
[21:50] <fryguy> chancegarcia: yes, ubuntu has some patches in their freetype implementation
[21:50] <Neff> how do i see my other partitions in xubuntu?
[21:50] <raylu> heril: he wants to install
[21:50] <fryguy> Neff: mount them using the mount command
[21:50] <heril> raylu: yes, but it wont because another package is there
[21:50] <heril> if I understand correctly
[21:50] <D0pamine> apt doesnt see it until i try to install flashplugin-nonfree
[21:51] <raylu> heril: adobe-flashplugin is a repository, i believe
[21:51] <sacabonos> fryguy: do you recommend a place to start reading about this cifs and how do I know if I have cif ready in my NAS (am logged in now with ssh)
[21:51] <Neff> fryguy: so it's like "mount /dev/sda1?
[21:51] <raylu> heril: as far as i'm concerned, adobe is nonfree :D
[21:51] <raylu> Neff: mount --help
[21:51] <fryguy> sacabonos: no idea. manpage for samba is pretty descriptive
[21:51] <Neff> hrm
[21:51] <heril> adobe-flashplugin is what I saw for the direct download from adobe .deb
[21:51] <fryguy> Neff: yes
[21:51] <D0pamine> adobe-flashplugin conflicts with flashplugin-nonfree
[21:51] <karn`> anyone know what would be a good version of ubuntu to install.....something later then breezy and older then ibex or hardy...?
[21:51] <raylu> o.0
[21:51] <raylu> what's the difference between adobe-flashplugin and flashplugin-nonfree?
[21:52] <karn`> i cant install ibex or hardy i dont have enough mem
[21:52] <D0pamine> cannnot find package adobe-flashplugin
[21:52] <sacabonos> fryguy: Ok thanks I'll read a little and I'll be back later
[21:52] <D0pamine> btw i'm not a noob
[21:52] <raylu> karn`: xubuntu :D
[21:52] <karn`> i just tried
[21:52] <D0pamine> any ideas?
[21:52] <karn`> raylu: xubuntu ibex and hardy
[21:52] <heril> probably use dpkg, not sure on the correct ommand
[21:52] <raylu> karn`: how much memory do you have?
[21:52] <jrib> raylu: one is a package from adobe that seems to cause the issue you are having now, the other is from ubuntu repositories
[21:52] <karn`> 96mb ;P
[21:53] <raylu> !info adobe-flashplugin
[21:53] <karn`> and 400mhz
[21:53] <blip-> hi all,  suspend-to-disk used to work on my laptop with ubuntu 8.04.... but after reinstalling it doesn't anymore... very strange issue... now it powers-down the machine but when i start it up again it just boots normally and doesn't "resume"...any idea what to check for ?   My RAM is 4GB and my swap is 4GB+ so it should have enough space...
[21:53] <raylu> jrib: huh? i'm not having an issue
[21:53] <raylu> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[21:53] <Abbfam47> i've just installed ubuntu 8.10 and finally got it to boot to the log in screen, but it freezes before before the desktop. this is at least the forth install and two downloads of the iso. any help would be great
[21:53] <heril> raylu: exactly, I think it was installed manually using dpkg and is now causing conflicts
[21:53] <nexus23> Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied  A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file ( rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" Error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal"
[21:53] <karn`> raylu; is there anything that has less requirements then hardy or ibex?
[21:53] <nexus23> i keep getting that when i try and use my usb external hard drive
[21:53] <raylu> heril: ...?
[21:54] <nexus23> it shows up in nautilus's side bar
[21:54] <raylu> heril: was that meant for me?
[21:54] <nexus23> but when i try to click on it i get that error
[21:54] <jrib> raylu: whoever is then
[21:54] <heril> raylu: helping explain it to the both of you actually
[21:54] <Neff> fryguy: remember i was having trouble getting ubuntu to install with the installer not seeing my partitions?
[21:54] <raylu> karn`: yeah. the requirements aren't hardy or ibex... it's gnome
[21:54] <fryguy> Neff: no
[21:54] <Neff> xubuntu installed with no problems
[21:55] <Neff> oh you helped me with it yesterday
[21:55] <karn`> raylu; do you think an older version would go?
[21:55] <Neff> i couldn't get the installer to "prepare partitions" at all
[21:55] <raylu> jrib: the issue is a package conflict. and that doesn't answer my question
[21:55] <heril> karn`: lxde or xfce
[21:55] <nexus23> Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied  A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file ( rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" Error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal"
[21:55] <karn`> raylu; i got breezy to install i just cant figure out how to get my wireless to work in it
[21:55] <jrib> raylu: the issue is dpkg doesn't know anything about the package when one tries to remove it
[21:55] <heril> instead of gnome
[21:56] <karn`> heril; where can i get those at?
[21:56] <raylu> karn`: no, like i said, install 8.04 or 8.10 without gnome
[21:56] <karn`> raylu; thats the problem, the loader freezes and the screen goes blank
[21:57] <raylu> karn`: use a minimal/alternate install cd
[21:57] <bartmon> karn`: install xubuntu-desktop if you have the space on hdd and then log into the xfce session instead of gnome
[21:57] <NemesisD> anyone know how i would retrieve a missing (but still running) gnome-panel?
[21:57] <karn`> eh?
[21:57] <fryguy> !resetpanel | NemesisD
[21:57] <bartmon> karn`: what?
[21:57] <NemesisD> fryguy: you told me that earlier. doesn't work
[21:58] <karn`> the install loader freezes
[21:58] <karn`> when its loading to install
[21:58] <bartmon> karn`: oh...
[21:59] <centr0> i have an ide that needs permission to /var/www how can i make the ide writable without running it as root?
[22:00] <fryguy> centr0: ls -ld /var/www, and add your user to the group that is listed
[22:00] <fryguy> (probably www)
[22:00] <FloodBot1> fryguy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:00] <Guest_150> anyone here can help me a bit?
[22:00] <fryguy> !ask | Guest_150
[22:00] <centr0> fryguy: thanks, ill take a look at that
[22:00] <jrib> !permissions > centr0
[22:01] <jrib> centr0: the group is root by default, so you probably want to create a new one like www-editors or something
[22:01] <fryguy> centr0: or just configure your webserver to server non-production files from a non-production location
[22:02] <Neff->  mount /hda1
[22:02] <Neff-> mount: can't find /hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[22:03] <jrib> Neff-: what are you trying to do?
[22:03] <fryguy> Neff-: you need to specify a mount location as well
[22:03] <Neff-> i tried /dev/hda1 too
[22:03] <edgimar> Does anybody know if there is a headless IRC client which can be connected to by a GUI-based client, and later disconnected?  Something that caches IRC messages.
[22:03] <Neff-> i want to see my NTFS partitions
[22:03] <fryguy> edgimar: irssi
[22:03] <jrib> Neff-: pastebin: sudo fdisk -l
[22:03] <fryguy> Neff-: sudo mkdir /mnt/tmp; sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/tmp;
[22:04] <duiu_> How do I make a command be run at startup?
[22:04] <huckleberry_> can someone help me with pspmanager install?
[22:04] <jrib> !startup > duiu_
[22:04] <D0pamine> really , i'm stuck with this one
[22:04] <D0pamine> help
[22:04] <D0pamine> !
[22:04] <centr0> so if i change the grp of my /var/www from root to something else it will automatically be writable?
[22:04] <jrib> D0pamine: the only solution I've seen is for you to muck around with the dpkg database by hand.  So you should probably look for a better one
[22:04] <fryguy> centr0: no
[22:05] <huckleberry_> i get the following error  i run the make command and get the following error uic: File generated with too recent version of Qt Designer (4.0 vs. 3.3.8b)
[22:05] <huckleberry_>  make: *** [encodevideo.h] Error 1
[22:05] <Neff> oh crap
[22:05] <Neff> it was sda1
[22:05] <Neff> my bad
[22:05] <duiu_> jrib: thanks
[22:05] <D0pamine> he did it with dpkg -i --force-arch
[22:06] <karn`> heri; is lxde or xfcen like breezy or ibex?
[22:06] <centr0> ah i see change grp and change perms of that grp to rwx if need be?
[22:06] <edgimar> fryguy: irssi looks ok, but it's console-based (like bitchx), and I'd like something which has a server backend, and a GUI frontend (maybe something similar to xchat).
[22:06] <jrib> centr0: and add your user to the group, yeah
[22:06] <northfield> northfield
[22:07] <centr0> thanks guys. really helpful :)
[22:07] <jazzyb5394> oh wow
[22:07] <fryguy> edgimar: you can connect to irssi using whatever gui irc client you want
[22:07] <karn`> #wireless
[22:08] <srinidhi> hi, I'm using ruby ripper, and I keep getting the error: "Cdrom drive sr0 does not exist on your system! Please configure your cdrom drive first"
[22:09] <fryguy> srinidhi: try having it use /dev/cdrom
[22:09] <edgimar> fryguy: ok, you mean using the proxy plugin.  -- how does it work?  If I am on channel X, and disconnect from the proxy for an hour, and then reconnect, will I somehow see all the activity during the last hour?
[22:09] <Psyrix21> what would be a better suggestion for running window programs on linux wine or crossover office?
[22:09] <Neff> still isn't working
[22:09] <fryguy> edgimar: yes
[22:09] <srinidhi> fryguy, I tried that also
[22:10] <Neff> i browsed to /mnt/tmp and i don't see anything except lost+found there
[22:10] <jrib> Neff: you never pastebinned what I asked.
[22:10] <Neff> sorry
[22:11] <ChUmBo> hi all
[22:11] <stz184> hey, after installing updates on ubuntu 8.10 i get icons of disconnected network in notification (no active connection forund), but I am using the internet right now
[22:12] <Neff-> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/88804/
[22:12] <Jason_WT> hello, When i open the network connection, I see never next to auto eth0 what does that mean
[22:12] <Neff> i want to see sda1 and sda2
[22:12] <Neff> or be able to browse them
[22:12] <nevoeiro> is there any problem with update manager? it is showing a popup saying "not all updates can be installed, run a partial upgrade... blabla" ??
[22:12] <stz184> Jason_WT same to me after installing updates
[22:13] <ChUmBo> i have a problem with my system i just cant get in in grafic mode can any one help me?
[22:13] <fryguy> !ask | ChUmBo
[22:13] <Jason_WT> well i just installed ubuntu in vbox
[22:13] <ChUmBo> kk ubottu
[22:14] <Neff> jrib?
[22:14] <fryguy> Neff: mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/tmp
[22:14] <nevoeiro> is there any problem with update manager? it is showing a popup saying "not all updates can be installed, run a partial upgrade... blabla" ??
[22:14] <Neff> hrm ok
[22:15] <boub_> ??
[22:15] <fryguy> nevoeiro: ust apt-get to upgrade from the command line, it will be more descriptive
[22:15] <jrib> D0pamine: try using dpkg to purge it
[22:15] <jrib> Neff: permanently or only one time?
[22:15] <Neff> ?
[22:15] <coeus82> I have an ekiga question, can I ask here?
[22:15] <Neff> permanently would be fine
[22:16] <jrib> Neff: install and run 'ntfs-config'
[22:16] <nevoeiro> fryguy: The following packages have been kept back:
[22:16] <nevoeiro>   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[22:16] <nevoeiro>   linux-restricted-modules-generic
[22:16] <nevoeiro> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
[22:16] <FloodBot1> nevoeiro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:16] <Neff> it said "according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /mnt/tmp
[22:16] <fryguy> nevoeiro: so then install those manually
[22:16] <ChUmBo> well i've just install ubunto on my pc and all was ok, but i changed the resolution and put the visual efect on, and when i restarted im keep geting start in command line or what ever its called
[22:16] <Neff> but i don't see it in file systems
[22:16] <Neff> but i don't see it in file system\
[22:16] <eseven73> !who
[22:17] <fryguy> ChUmBo: so then change the resolution back and disable 3d effects
[22:17] <nevoeiro> this is becoming a pain, really.. *sigh*
[22:17] <raylu> !pt | ChUmBo
[22:18]  * ElijahDuBarryVT is away: I'm not here, please try again latter!
[22:18] <ChUmBo> ???? udunto br??? i am not from brasil lol
[22:18] <raylu> ChUmBo: oops.
[22:18] <jrib> ChUmBo: but that is for support in portuguese
[22:18] <mithraic> Is there a decent console jabber client that support rooms? Teh goog is sending me in endless circles.
[22:18] <Neff> i'm still not seeing my ntfs partitions
[22:18] <Neff> :(
[22:19] <fryguy> mithraic: finch works
[22:19] <raylu> mithraic: there's bitlbee, which isn't quite what you want
[22:19] <ChUmBo> i prefer english support jrib
[22:19] <jrib> ChUmBo: that's fine
[22:19] <jrib> Neff: details.....
[22:19] <mithraic> Thanks guys.
[22:19] <jrib> !who | Neff
[22:19] <raylu> Neff: ls /mnt/tmp
[22:20] <mithraic> fryguy: Ooh, finch nifty! rocking the ncurses
[22:20] <Neff> raylu: <Neff> it said "according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /mnt/tmp
[22:20] <raylu> Neff: ...right. so "ls /mnt/tmp"
[22:20] <Neff> oh
[22:20] <Neff> ls
[22:20] <fryguy> Neff: so then sudo umount /mnt/tmp and do it again
[22:20] <raylu> mithraic: rocking isn't quite the word you're looking for ...
[22:20] <raylu> mithraic: it's more like "barely pulling through and providing a semi-usable interface"
[22:21] <peligom> hi all
[22:21] <gary_> hii guys
[22:22] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[22:22] <gary_> i don't know how
[22:22] <gary_> open control panel
[22:22] <gary_> under wine
[22:22] <jrib> !enter | Guest13720
[22:22] <test34> When I change my network address to a static one using the GUI (System - Preferences - Network Configuration), it gets reset to DHCP when I reboot, is that a bug ?
[22:22] <Neff> yay it worked!
[22:22] <Guest13720> all right i'm sorry
[22:22] <Neff> thanks guys
[22:23] <Guest13720> but how open ControlPanel under wine
[22:23] <fryguy> test34: yes, there are lots of issues when using network manager with static IPs
[22:23] <Jason_WT> is there a way to drag a window from one WS to another?
[22:23] <Jason_WT> WS--workspace
[22:23] <test34> fryguy, what should I do ?
[22:23] <fryguy> Jason_WT: you can turn that feature on, or just ctrl-shift-arrowkey to move it for the time being
[22:23] <Psyrix21> use compiz
[22:24] <fryguy> test34: use /etc/network/interfaces and disable network manager would be my recommendation
[22:24] <Neff> so how do i mount these partitions permanently?
[22:24] <jrib> Neff: use ntfs-config...
[22:24] <fryguy> Neff: add the corresponding lines to /etc/fstab
[22:24] <Neff> ok
[22:24] <rdavila> hi folks!
[22:24] <itsatrick> I have no idea what I did, but for some reason in gnome, my keyboard is disabled and my mouse scroll bar acts like a text zoom.  I think I hit something like ALT+SPACE, but I have no idea.
[22:25] <rdavila> I've a litle problem with the microphone when I record audio
[22:25] <test34>  ./etc/network/interfaces doesnt list eth0.. only lo ..
[22:25] <itsatrick> Anybody know how to get my keyboard and mouse back?
[22:25] <rdavila> there is a strange noise
[22:25] <Jason_WT> oh, i just right clicked on the top bar and shose move to right
[22:25] <rdavila> here is a litle demo: http://www.box.net/shared/55q3c4nypp
[22:25] <fryguy> test34: right, because you are currently using network manager for everything, you'll need to add an entry for eth0
[22:25] <Jason_WT> is there a way to make each WS appear on a different moniter?
[22:25] <mithraic> Hmmmm, _somewhere_ I have F11 set to maximize windows. I don't see it in Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts, nor in Compiz Settings Manager
[22:25] <mithraic> Any other suggestions where it might be hiding?
[22:26] <test34> ok thanks fryguy
[22:26] <fryguy> Jason_WT: not with metacity or compiz that i know of.  other window managers offer that feature
[22:26] <fryguy> Jason_WT: the window manager i use, for example, does
[22:26] <mithraic> Ah! It was specific to gnome-terminal.
[22:26] <Jason_WT> what is a windows manager
[22:26] <fryguy> Jason_WT: a program that controls how windows are drawn on the screen and provides controls for manipulating those windows
[22:27] <bartmon> mithraic: No, F11 is the usual hotkey for fullscreen
[22:27] <bartmon> mithraic: It's used in most applications.
[22:27] <Koordin-> hi, does someone here have a little time to spend for me ? i have a sound that has a very bad quality, could someone help me to turn it right ? i tried with audacity, but without sucess ... http://www.partage-facile.com/148434-partie_1.wma.html  please i need someone's help
[22:27] <Jason_WT> oh, and are metacity and compiz ones that are te default for ubuntu?
[22:27] <suriro> D0pamine: try to get rid of it using dpkg, not apt. Can you see it with 'dpkg -l adobe*' ?
[22:27] <MutantX> Any ideas on why when I try to join the network, I get " Failed to join domain: failed to find DC for domain MYREALM.ORG "?
[22:27] <fryguy> Koordin-: this isn't the proper channel to discussion sound engineering and audio production
[22:28] <mithraic> bartmon: Fair enough. Just noting that to change it, I had to go to gnome-terminal's preferences.
[22:28] <Koordin-> fryguy: on which chan do i have to go ?
[22:28] <fryguy> Koordin-: no idea, i don't do sound engineering or audio production so i'm not familiar with that community
[22:28] <D0pamine> thanks suriro , will try
[22:28] <DrHackenbush> howdy all. Thinking about buying my wife a used Thinkpad T-42 and throwing Ubuntu on there for her.  All she wants is to be able to browse the internet, view DVDs and keep a couple of pictures.  Anyone know any gotchas or any good reasons why the T-42 would be a bad choice?
[22:29] <rdavila> friends, any ideas about this starnge issue with mi micro: http://www.box.net/shared/55q3c4nypp ?
[22:29] <bartmon> mithraic: oh. Well whatever floats your boat. Do you need F11 for another purpose?
[22:29] <yotux> firefox freezes when I log into gmail
[22:29] <WebcamWonder> fryguy, Do you happen to know where do I put a script to change the RTS of my network card on startup to the value of 2346, rather than the default off. The command has to be executed as a priviledged user (iwconfig wlan0 rts 2346). Right now, I end up doing this on every boot
[22:29] <fryguy> WebcamWonder: no idea, why ask me?
[22:29] <mithraic> yeah, it's the "contextual menu" key for Finch.
[22:29] <mithraic> So I couldn't add a buddy or a chatroom.
[22:29] <WebcamWonder> fryguy: You seem to be the most educated ones around here :)
[22:29] <Jordan_U> Koordin-, #ubuntustudio may be able to point you in hte right direction
[22:29] <fryguy> WebcamWonder: i don't know anything
[22:29] <fryguy> WebcamWonder: maybe you have me confused with someone else
[22:29] <malaeum> Hello, I am trying to get some non-english characters workin. I have setup the compose key and it is working well for me. I am not sure why but recenlty characters with umlauts stopped working when I enter the required key presses I get a system beep yet other chracters still work ß for example. Does anyone have any idea what would cause this and/or how to fix it? Thank you in advance for your help.
[22:30] <Koordin-> thanks Jordan_U
[22:30] <SherlawkDragon> anyone know how to set up GNOME so that I can create files by right clicking other than just blank text files?
[22:30] <WebcamWonder> Does anyone happen to know where do I put a script to change the RTS of my network card on startup to the value of 2346, rather than the default off. The command has to be executed as a priviledged user (iwconfig wlan0 rts 2346). Right now, I end up doing this on every boot
[22:30] <Jordan_U> Koordin-, np
[22:30] <D0pamine> suriro: , i can see it but cant seem to remove it ...
[22:30] <jrib> WebcamWonder: ~/Templates
[22:31] <WebcamWonder> jrib: That would be SherlawkDragon
[22:31] <D0pamine> ii  adobe-flashplu <IP_ADDRESS>-1ha Adobe Flash Player plugin version 10
[22:31] <D0pamine> adobe suck so bad
[22:31] <jrib> SherlawkDragon: ~/Templates/ (sorry WebcamWonder :))
[22:31] <SherlawkDragon> jrib> ahhh, I was trying to figure out what the directory was...
[22:31] <jrib> D0pamine: did you try purging it using dpkg?
[22:31] <SherlawkDragon> and I just put blank versions of files there?
[22:31] <SherlawkDragon> or what?
[22:31] <WebcamWonder> SherlawkDragon: Yeah
[22:32] <D0pamine> jrib , sorry my debian skills are a little rusty - dpkg -r ?
[22:32] <jrib> SherlawkDragon: well, you don't want blank versions, you want some sort of template in there
[22:32] <urchin> hi
[22:32] <yotux> If I have a firefox issue where should I put in on the forum
[22:32] <jrib> D0pamine: I suggested -P, but sure try that
[22:32] <centr0> hmm, i added a group development and my usr to that grp and chmod'd the directories accordingly but komodo still cant write to that dir. any ideas on what to check?
[22:32] <jrib> yotux: #ubuntuforums or just ask your question here
[22:32] <D0pamine> well i did but it doesnt seem to work jrib
[22:32] <centr0> i checked my id on my user and its part of that grp already
[22:32] <jrib> centr0: logout and back in
[22:32] <jrib> D0pamine: output?
[22:33] <peponi> #list
[22:33] <peponi> \list
[22:33] <Psi-Jack> Here's a curious question. I noticed that during Ubuntu 8.10 install, there was no option to setup and create LVM volumes. Is there a means to do this at all somehow?
[22:33] <centr0> jrib: wow so simple lol.  ill try that
[22:33] <SherlawkDragon> jrib> yeah, files with no real data, like a blank ODT
[22:33] <D0pamine> sec lemme just install nopaste
[22:33] <yotux> firefox is freezing when I log into my gmail account
[22:33] <jrib> SherlawkDragon: sure
[22:33] <yotux> Possible flash issue?
[22:33] <fde> Psi-Jack: You have to select "Custom" at the partitioning stage
[22:33] <Psi-Jack> fde: I did, of course.
[22:33] <SherlawkDragon> yotux> I don't know of any Flash in gmail
[22:34] <SherlawkDragon> might be an access or scripting error
[22:34] <WebcamWonder> fryguy: Ok. Do you happen to know any place where the given scripts are executed on system boot iwth higher priviledges?
[22:34] <yotux> I thought the inbox was in flash
[22:34] <fde> Psi-Jack: I'm almost certain its there? If not, try finding the alternative installer... its text mode install, but it definitely has it
[22:34] <urchin> yotux what is your gmail acount
[22:34] <D0pamine> http://pastebin.com/me92146b jrib
[22:34] <vasi> SherlawkDragon: i think it uses flash for the gtalk sounds?
[22:34] <fryguy> WebcamWonder: like i said, no idea, and no idea why you are asking me
[22:34] <yotux> just lots of emails
[22:35] <jrib> D0pamine: and: dpkg -P adobe-flashplugin  ?
[22:35] <urchin> ok
[22:35] <Psi-Jack> fde: Hmm.. I may check again on that, cause if I'm gonna fubar my system putting KDE4.2-beta on, I'll just reinstall and set it up more like I want anyway, with an LVM stripe going on two drives to further improve performance. ;)
[22:35] <fryguy> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a Intel Core2 Machine, P35 motherboard, nvidia card that works with nvidia binary drivers (6800GT).  All 4 current live cds (8.04, 8.10, 32-bit and 64-bit) freeze as soon as I get to the desktop, so I was forced to install using the alternative installer.  Now the installed system exemplifies the same problems as the LiveCDs.  I've done all of the obvious things (and lots of non-obvious), and can not resolve the issue.  Anybod
[22:35] <yotux> when I try to scroll down it pauses and makes the curson freeze
[22:35] <SherlawkDragon> vasi> well, I've never used gtalk... heh...
[22:35] <D0pamine> sweet jrib , thanks man , i'll remember that and the beer i owe ya ;)
[22:35] <SherlawkDragon> let me check
[22:36] <jrib> fryguy: you can't get to a tty after it freezes?
[22:36] <n2diy> anybody know how to modify a language spec. file for Kate, so it will work in Gedit?
[22:36] <fryguy> jrib: i can get to a tty right before it freezes.
[22:36] <sugi> ummmm... my gnome just froze (i think) I can move the mouse around and kinda select files in my nautilus but i can't alt tab anything or change workspaces.   How do i kill gnome within the terminal?
[22:36] <fryguy> jrib: as soon as switch back to gui it freezes
[22:36] <vasi> fryguy: can you boot non-graphically?
[22:36] <der|kunstler> n2diy, go to /usr/share/gtksourceview-2.0/
[22:36] <fryguy> vasi: sure
[22:36] <jrib> fryguy: so you're forced to do a hard reboot then?
[22:36] <fryguy> jrib: yes
[22:36] <fde> Psi-Jack: I keep trying my best to be impressed with KDE4... it just doesn't have anything quite like gnome-do though, so it loses too easily these days
[22:36]  * ElijahDuBarryVT is back (gone 00:18:45)
[22:37] <der|kunstler> how do you change the default colors in xterm ?
[22:37] <SherlawkDragon> yotux> when do you get it?
[22:37] <jrib> fryguy: did you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for anything interesting?
[22:37] <vasi> sugi: you probably just want to ctl-alt-delete to restart X....unless you have files unsaved, then sucks to be you
[22:37] <SherlawkDragon> after you get the loading part?
[22:37] <fryguy> jrib: dmesg and Xorg.0.log provide no errors
[22:37] <fde> der|kunstler: you don't... if you like fancy colors, use gnome-terminal or konsole
[22:37] <jrib> fryguy: using nv now though?
[22:37] <der|kunstler> fde, you can't ? isn't there any config file or something ?
[22:37] <fryguy> jrib: same behavior with nv and all 4 versions of nvidia in ubuntu
[22:37] <vasi> (sorry, ctl-alt-backspace to restart X)
[22:37] <sugi> vasi: thank you i think.....  i do have unsaved stuff.  hwo do i restart gnome??  can i just do it with my "ps -e"?
[22:38] <fde> der|kunstler: nope, 'fraid not... that's why its not very popular  ;)
[22:38] <fryguy> jrib: of note is that all 5 of those drivers work in other operating systems
[22:38] <hallowname> der|kunstler: use 'xterm -fg blue -bg black'
[22:38] <n2diy> der|kunstler, yes, the file goes in the language folder in that dir, but gedit doesn't like the files format.
[22:38] <Psi-Jack> fde: KDE never ceases to amaze me personally. They actually do things pretty well, interface-wise it's tight. For years, things as simple as Evolution STILL doesn't have IMAP IDLE support.
[22:38] <fde> sugi: just log out and back in
[22:38] <vasi> sugi: gnome is a whole environment....
[22:38] <yotux> SherlawkDragon: log into my gmail account and my mouse starts to move really slow if I try to scroll my email inbox
[22:38] <D0pamine> jrib , once again many thanks
[22:38] <hallowname> der|kunstler: or, learn how to configure your .bashrc file with google
[22:38] <fryguy> jrib: i've gone as far as installing linuxfromscratch with an ubuntu patched kernel and the same nvidia drivers, and that works fine
[22:38] <vasi> sugi: do you mean nautilus, maybe?
[22:38] <jrib> D0pamine: np
[22:38] <SherlawkDragon> Yes, Gmail uses flash on their page, but it's hidden
[22:38] <D0pamine> big love <3
[22:38] <SherlawkDragon> hmm...
[22:38] <fde> Psi-Jack: You can use KDE apps without KDE... the desktop itself is weak though
[22:38] <der|kunstler> hallowname, that's what I needed, now I remember that you can change terminal colors through /etc/profile
[22:38] <sugi> vasi:  fde:  son a ..... darn it. it restarted on it's own >.<
[22:38] <test34_> thanks fryguy that did it
[22:38] <hallowname> der|kunstler: yup
[22:38] <SherlawkDragon> try updating firefox is all I can think of
[22:39] <vasi> sugi: if you do mean just nautilus, then try "killall nautilus"
[22:39] <vasi> woops
[22:39] <vasi> too late
[22:39] <der|kunstler> hallowname, had a very long time that didn't deal with those stuff... .bashrc, that's the answer, thanks :D
[22:39] <hallowname> der|kunstler: .bashrc tweakage allows for some sweet terminals tho
[22:39] <SherlawkDragon> if you've got a ploblem with a plugin, it shou;d tell you...
[22:39] <jrib> fryguy: weird, no idea
[22:39] <fde> sugi: if you want to *stop* gnome... /etc/init.d/gdm stop ... start to start it again
[22:39] <der|kunstler> hallowname, yeah, it reminds me in my old gentoo days back in 2004
[22:39] <sugi> vasi: no nautilus was working, but...
[22:39] <SherlawkDragon> yotux> what view of the site are you using?
[22:39] <hallowname> der|kunstler: heh, im on gentoo now
[22:39] <SherlawkDragon> old?  new?  text?
[22:39] <Psi-Jack> fde: Actually.... It's even better than before. Gnome doesn't have the Plasma Desktop or anything close, which I actually like, quite a lot. Minimize to desktop by itself, sucks, but having widgets that are there, and the Dashboard overlap things, instead of minimize things, is a much cleaner more useful approach.
[22:40] <der|kunstler> hallowname, :P
[22:40] <der|kunstler> hallowname, gentoo guys make pretty good terminal configuration, I really love gentoo's colors
[22:40] <ized> hi all! a problem i could not solve via google: how can i convert .emf-files (windows enhanced metafile graphics) to .svg (scalable vector graphic) under linux/ubuntu??
[22:40] <hallowname> der|kunstler: hehe
[22:40] <fde> Psi-Jack: I used what became KDE4.2 up until about 4 days ago... I doubt its changed much in that time...
[22:40] <der|kunstler> hallowname, well, gotta keep working, thanks for your help
[22:40] <sugi> vasi: fde: thanks anyways.  i lost my stuff but oh well.
[22:40] <hallowname> fde: Psi-Jack: let's not frag on kde4 unless we program for it eh ?
[22:40] <hallowname> der|kunstler: yup
[22:40] <fde> Psi-Jack: Nothing that Plasma brings can't be done on other desktops... KDE itself is just poor
[22:41] <fde> hallowname: I had like 10 patches for KDE3, does that count?
[22:41] <yotux> SherlawkDragon: If I use the old verision it work fine,  the new verision is where it starts to bog down
[22:41] <Psi-Jack> Heh
[22:41] <Psi-Jack> Anyway, time to run KDE4.2
[22:41] <joaquinm> hi guys
[22:41] <joaquinm> any op around ?
[22:41] <hallowname> fde: haha, kde4 isn't done... or close... trunk is shaping up nice actually... im on it now...
[22:41] <SherlawkDragon> hmm...
[22:41] <joaquinm> we have a troll problem in #ubuntu-es we need some help there
[22:41] <SherlawkDragon> yotux> it's new, it's still WIP
[22:42] <joaquinm> someone knows whats the exact syntax of !ops ?
[22:42] <fde> hallowname: As I just said, I was running what got branched for beta2 4 days ago
[22:42] <fde> hallowname: not impressed at all
[22:42] <Neff> so how do i use ntfs-config to mount /dev/sda1 permanently
[22:42] <SherlawkDragon> try updating firefox, if that doesn't work, wait a little while on the new version.
[22:42] <Neff> i don't understand how this does anything
[22:42] <hallowname> fde: that's ok... cuz were not done with it :P but u'll like it sooner or later :P
[22:42] <fde> joaquinm: !ops someone <whatever they're doing wrong>
[22:42] <fryguy> Neff: just add the entry to /etc/fstab
[22:42] <mrwes> re
[22:42] <Neff> i don't know what the entry should be
 <mountpoint> <filesystem> <mountoptions>
[22:43] <Neff> ok
[22:43] <yotux> SherlawkDragon: so would use suggest using the old version?
[22:43] <kindofabuzz> I don't know what casued it, maybe a flash update. but my flash is installed but firefox does not see it. i go to a site and get the popup and hit to install and it just says it's already installed. what can i do?
[22:43] <kindofabuzz> it was working
[22:43] <jrib> joaquinm: use #ubuntu-irc
[22:43] <fde> hallowname: I hope so... but I'm not sure what its bringing that screenlets/telepathy/gstreamer/etc isn't already
[22:43] <vasi> kindofabuzz: there's a flash-setup program that will reset these things
[22:44] <kindofabuzz> vasi, what's it called?
[22:44] <SherlawkDragon> yotux> yes, that's what I meant by waiting on the new version
[22:44] <hallowname> fde: ease of code, plasmoids from javascript and python...
[22:44] <vasi> kindofabuzz: i don't remember the name, but try   dpkg -L <your-flash-package> | grep setup
[22:44] <kindofabuzz> k
[22:44] <hallowname> fde: super-easy to learn how... gtk is complex
[22:44] <joaquinm> jrib, thx
[22:44] <SherlawkDragon> but first, try forcing an update on firefox
[22:44] <kindofabuzz> i have
[22:44] <fryguy> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a Intel Core2 Machine, P35 motherboard, nvidia card that works with nvidia binary drivers (6800GT).  All 4 current live cds (8.04, 8.10, 32-bit and 64-bit) freeze as soon as I get to the desktop, so I was forced to install using the alternative installer.  Now the installed system exemplifies the same problems as the LiveCDs.  I've done all of the obvious things (and lots of non-obvious), and can not resolve the issue.  Anybod
[22:45] <oobuntu> Hello, my USB mouse stopped working in Ubuntu Hardy (apparently after an update). How can I fix it?
[22:45] <yotux> SherlawkDragon: Thanks I did not sign up for the new version it just appeared
[22:45] <fde> hallowname: those aren't advantages to KDE though, they're advantages to the apps... which you can use in any desktop
[22:46] <mrwes> fryguy: you try booting into rescue mode?
[22:46] <kindofabuzz> vasi, was i supposed to see anything with that?
[22:46] <fryguy> mrwes: and do what with it. i have no problems getting a command line even from a normal boot
[22:46] <bigjon> I have a question regarding the firestarter policy definition under version 8. According to the dialog I can define a "network" - how is the question.  I only managed to define a single IP address or name. I want to define a network (may with a subnet). Found nothing on the web regarding this. Can anyone help????
[22:46] <mrwes> fryguy: rerun Xorg conf from there and see if that'll help
[22:46] <fryguy> mrwes: it doesn't
[22:47] <fde> hallowname: one thing that has made me mad since KDE2 days... kio_* memory leaks... and they're still not fixed... gnome has more paid guys, so they do the boring stuff that keeps everything sane
[22:47] <mrwes> fryguy: k
[22:47] <ized> please! a problem i could not solve via google: how can i convert .emf-files (windows enhanced metafile graphics) to .svg (scalable vector graphic) under linux/ubuntu??
[22:47] <fryguy> mrwes: i've used 5 different drivers, drivers that are known to work with my card in my specific hardware configuration
[22:47] <Neff> fryguy: how do i open fstab with write permissions
[22:47] <fryguy> Neff: use sudo
[22:47] <Neff> sudo fstab?
[22:47] <fryguy> Neff: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[22:47] <Neff> ok thx
[22:47] <vasi> ized: does batik do it?
[22:48] <ized> vasi: i don't know batik
[22:48] <hallowname> fde: really? never had an issue with it...
[22:48] <hallowname> fde: kde systems up for 8months+ here...
[22:48] <karimaz> hi my laptop doesnt shutdown completely
[22:48] <fde>  hallowname ps -e | grep kio ... I bet you have 20+ of them
[22:49] <Jason_WT> is there any reason the linux filesystem is so hard and complicated to understand
[22:49] <fde> hallowname: over that period, probably more like 50
[22:49] <qmemo> Hi all, can some verify partial Net cables cut off in Egypt  ?
[22:49] <Scunizi_> ized: convert from imagemagick might do it.. but it might be better to go to png first.
[22:49] <marcustr> hello?
[22:49] <templaedhel> hi
[22:49] <karimaz> after progressbar it stops
[22:49] <fde> hallowname: would hate to see your memory consumption too
[22:49] <kindofabuzz> vasi, a total reinstall of the plugin worked though.
[22:49] <phix> hey, how do I disable the network manager? or at least get it to stop enabling DHCP on eth0 (as eth0 is in a bridge)
[22:49] <fryguy> Jason_WT: it's pretty straightforward.  some cause for concern is because it tries to follow posix as well as other standards.  Read the FHS (filesystem hierarchy standard), and it becomes pretty obvious
[22:49] <kindofabuzz> i just wonder how it dissappeared
[22:49] <ized> Scunizi: thank you - i will try
[22:49] <fde> ized: all I can see that looks helpful is transfig
[22:50] <suriro> ized: install libwmf-bin
[22:50] <templaedhel> ANyone Here good with partitons??
[22:50] <Jason_WT> it is so full of different folders where indows just has users and programs files, not root and boot and mht, etc
[22:50] <fryguy> !ask | templaedhel
[22:50] <ized> vasi: thanks
[22:50] <phix> templaedhel: me me!
[22:50] <hischild> templaedhel, what you need done?
[22:50] <mrwes> fryguy: that is weird, Ubuntu should detect that card
[22:50] <fryguy> mrwes: yes, i know
[22:50] <phix> templaedhel: what's up?
[22:50] <fryguy> mrwes: and several other operating systems DO detect the card
[22:50] <templaedhel> just a sec I'm typing it
[22:51] <mrwes> fryguy: mem is OK?
[22:51] <Jason_WT> templaedhel: i am good with them
[22:51] <Guest13720> how to update wine
[22:51] <Guest13720> :-/
[22:51] <Guest13720> plz help
[22:51] <scawt> hey guise, is there an enlightenment 17 repository for ibex?
[22:51] <fryguy> mrwes: memtests for 48+ hours, other linuxes have been installed on this machine for years. it's not a hardware problem
[22:51] <mrwes> fryguy: Ok...just running through the obvious :)
[22:51] <Guest13720> do i have to reinstall wine
[22:51] <oobuntu> my USB mouse stopped working... any help, please?
[22:52] <fryguy> mrwes: like i mentioned in the original statement, i've done everything obvious
[22:52] <mrwes> yah
[22:52] <Andrei> Hi. i like ubuntu very muchm but i have a lot of problems woth it. I can't configure microphone,webcam, java programs(like netbeans) works slow,it don't see my floppy, and other. Please, suggest a solution!!!
[22:52]  * raylu wonders is memtesting for 48 hours had an affect on the ram
[22:52] <fde> fryguy: can you get into the system at all?
[22:52] <raylu> *if
[22:52] <karimaz> does anyone have shutdown problem
[22:52] <fryguy> mrwes: i've gone as far as using a linuxfromscratch install with an ubuntu patched kernel and the same drivers that ubuntu provides (all 5 of them)
[22:52] <fryguy> fde: yes, just not X11 desktop
[22:52] <templaedhel> okay so this is my setup right now http://imagebin.org/33966 but when I boot windows it gets to the screen before the welcome screen and then hangs
[22:52] <raylu> fryguy: make sure the clip on the ethernet cable is in XD
[22:52] <fryguy> raylu: i have no network issues
[22:53] <raylu> fryguy: oh, i thought you were here for that yesterday
[22:53] <fde> fryguy: does your lsmod look good? nvidia binary drivers installed and loading fine etc etc?
[22:53] <hallowname> fde: haha i have 4 kio daemons running
[22:53] <oobuntu> I already looked in Google for a solution but can't find it :( my USB mouse stopped working
[22:53] <fryguy> fde: yes, all 5 sets of nvidia drivers load fine, and proceed to cause the exact same behavior, whereas all 5 drivers will proceed to work in another operating system
[22:53] <mrwes> fryguy: have your tried booting with a previous kernel?
[22:53] <FreeFull> How do I find out which driver is used for my wireless card?
[22:53] <fryguy> mrwes: there is only 1 kernel
[22:54] <Jason_WT> templaedhel: what screen does it get to before the welcome screen
[22:54] <YaroMan86> Help! I'm getting ata errors from the kernel. I did a quick SMART test from my BIOS and got negative results (No errors.) fsck found and fixed many many many ext2 errors, but the problms still persist. Need help.
[22:54] <fryguy> mrwes: well theres 2 now because I updated, but they are both yielding the same behavior
[22:54] <mrwes> fryguy: ahh...this is a fresh install?
[22:54] <fryguy> mrwes: yes
[22:54] <mrwes> ok...
[22:54] <fde> Andrei: If your webcam isn't plug and play, then it won't work... have you tried using it in something like Ekiga? Microphone, just make sure the mic volume is turned up in Volume Control and alsamixer... java programs, ensure you have sun java not openjdk
[22:54] <fde> hallowname: then you lied about uptime
[22:55] <mrwes> fryguy: and the 5 pound sledge hammer doesn't work :)
[22:55] <Schuenemann> hey, how do I record an ISO to a CD using dd?
[22:55] <suriro> fryguy: any clue in Xorg.0.log ?
[22:55] <fryguy> Schuenemann: you don't, you need to use burning software
[22:55] <fde> fryguy: where are you getting the drivers from? do you have the xorg-driver-nvidia package installed?
[22:55] <Schuenemann> fryguy, it is impossible?
[22:55] <fryguy> suriro: as already stated there are no errors in Xorg.log
[22:55] <fryguy> fde: yes
[22:55] <baddog> hello, what's Ubuntu's equivalent of /etc/rc.conf ?
[22:55] <fryguy> Schuenemann: yes
[22:55] <templaedhel> Jason_WT: it just says windows xp in little letters
[22:56] <fde> fryguy: that only answers half my question
[22:56] <Schuenemann> fryguy, weird is that I did dd if=iso of=/dev/cdrom and it says it was copied... I wonder where it is now...
[22:56] <FreeFull> How do I find out which driver is used for my wireless card?
[22:56] <kindofabuzz> google your wireless card?
[22:56] <hallowname> fde: oh yea, this machine just finished compiling trunk, so it's only been on for about a day and a half