[06:59] <h3h_timo> could someone show me how to list all programs i have installed???
[07:00] <MindFreek> h3h_timo, use synaptic
[07:00] <popol> in synaptic  there is a field to the right
[07:00] <popol> you can choose installed apps
[07:00] <karthik> thanks guys
[07:00] <h3h_timo> MindFreek, alright but before it was in the terminal and it ran through all installed packages and asked if i wanted to remove each one seperately
[07:01] <Cold_FiRe> whats the best linux compiler? im not very sure how to use the terminal to compile things
[07:01] <jadacyrus> After installing the latest updates, nm-applet no longer lists the wireless connections..
[07:02] <Flannel> !compile | Cold_FiRe
[07:02] <ubotu> Cold_FiRe: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:03] <Cold_FiRe> i went there but i dont get it
[07:03] <jadacyrus> After installing the latest updates, nm-applet no longer lists the wireless connections.. How can I find out which updates I Installed last?
[07:04] <eisma> could anyone walk me through installing java and flash on ubuntu?
[07:04] <Flannel> !java | eisma
[07:04] <ubotu> eisma: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:05] <Flannel> eisma: for flash (you want flash9), it's in the backports repository, see !backports if you need help enabling it
[07:05] <jadacyrus> nevermind its back now
[07:05] <brussel_> Are there any SATA RAID cards supported by ubuntu?
[07:06] <brussel_> And if there are any SATA RAID cards supported what are there names? I'd like to start researching and budgeting...
[07:06] <brussel_> s/there/their/
[07:07] <verdRousseau> does anyone know all the ruby packages I need for rubygems such as libzlib-ruby?
[07:08] <olympionex> any livecd remastering experts around?
[07:09] <Flannel> olympionex: you seen help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization ?
[07:09] <mdasilva_> hey all
[07:09] <olympionex> Flannel: yes
[07:10] <frogzoo> brussel_: as long as they're based on the same chipsets as mobos, shouldn't have a problem
[07:10] <mdasilva_> anyone here using LVM2?
[07:10] <Flannel> !anyone | mdasilva_
[07:10] <ubotu> mdasilva_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:10] <brussel_> frogzo, mobos?
[07:10] <frogzoo> brussel_: motherboards
[07:11] <brussel_> frogzoo, the sata raid cards will have nothing to do with the mobo
[07:11] <mdasilva_> im just curious on how widespread LVM usage is
[07:11] <mdasilva_> im surprised it doesn't come up during installations
[07:11] <olympionex> flannel: my problem does not seem to be addressed in the howtos.  Something about the livecd is overwriting the files I change in the squashfs I (re)created.
[07:11] <Flannel> mdasilva_: only the alternate CD
[07:12] <facugaich> lol I guess you're the first one with a legitimate "Deas anyone/anydoby..." question mdasilva_
[07:12] <mdasilva_> lvm is my new best friend
[07:12] <Flannel> mdasilva_: but, even the Desktop CD has support for it (when you use it as a liveCD).
[07:12] <[SilverFox] > I must be a n00b sorry if i not checking all help sites lol but just downloaded the desktop/laptop ver from http://www.ubuntu.com I put cd in my laptop says run/install and then it takes 10min or so loads the os from the cdrom lol it does not install
[07:12] <brussel_> frogzoo: sata raid cards are like these here, none of which seem to be supported by ubuntu: http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/12/13/pci-express-sata-raid-controllers-for-smb-servers/page9.html#product_comparison_tableHere
[07:13] <mdasilva_> ya i haven't had much time to touch my linux box but me learning about lvm is almost as big as when i learned about screen
[07:13] <mdasilva_> lol
[07:13] <mikejanssen> [SilverFox] , did you notice an 'install' icon on your desktop, on your cd
[07:13] <Flannel> [SilverFox] : there's an install link on the desktop
[07:13] <mdasilva_> lvm2 snapshots - wows
[07:13] <mikejanssen> heh
[07:13] <mikejanssen> icon says 'install' thats all it says
[07:13] <Spastic_teapot> Anyone know why my system won't recognize my USB hard drive?
[07:13] <someothernick> !hcl
[07:13] <[SilverFox] > <mikejanssen> lol no so were suppose to load it all up my mistake.. was born yesterday
[07:13] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:13] <Spastic_teapot> I get this error message:
[07:13] <Spastic_teapot> ]   6:0:0:0: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery
[07:14] <Spastic_teapot> This is for a cheap USB hard drive.
[07:15] <jadacyrus> whats with WPA On edgy?
[07:17] <redwyrm> anybody know how what program created the /etc/acpi scripts?
[07:19] <Cold_FiRe> wats beter xgl or aiglx
[07:19] <omenemo> how do i see all of the channels on irc? what's the command?
[07:20] <mdasilva_> .    /list
[07:21] <frogzoo> Cold_FiRe: xgl for ati, aiglx for nvidia
[07:21] <omenemo> thanks mdasilva_
[07:21] <Cold_FiRe> ic
[07:21] <Cold_FiRe> where can i get xgl
[07:21] <Cold_FiRe> !xgl
[07:21] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:21] <Cold_FiRe> why is aiglx for nvidia?
[07:21] <olympionex> Flannel: you know of any other servers/rooms that would be helpful for finding information about remastering?  There are so many ubuntu based live-cds and yet I can't find much information on whats causing my problem.
[07:21] <frogzoo> brussel_: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
[07:22] <Cold_FiRe> its seems beter then xgl on youtube
[07:22] <brussel_> frogzoo, thanks i'll check it out
[07:22] <omenemo> what is the irc command to connect to another server?
[07:23] <jormung> okay i have a problem i have connected windows 98 to a ubuntu 6.06 via a blue ethernet cable. How do i get them to talk to each other?
[07:23] <Cold_FiRe> you can always use modem talking
[07:23] <brussel_> frogzoo, I'm not looking for chipsets
[07:23] <biglebowski> jormung, you need a cross cable if you're linking them directly
[07:23] <Cold_FiRe> as in this ip trick where the computer thinks the other modem is a server
[07:23] <biglebowski> that is without a router or a hub
[07:23] <jormung> what is that?
[07:23] <frogzoo> brussel_: the chipset determines if there's a linux driver
[07:24] <biglebowski> jormung, google it
[07:24] <jormung> what is a cross cable
[07:24] <jormung> ok
[07:24] <Cold_FiRe> but it goes max speed of the modem
[07:24] <Flannel> olympionex: "casper" is the name of the liveCD thing.  the reason there are so many is becuase of programs like these: http://uck.sourceforge.net/ http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/
[07:24] <seshomaru> hi ,is there's a mirror for /security.ubuntu.com dapper-security?
[07:25] <seshomaru> repository....
[07:25] <Flannel> omenemo: depends on the client.  /connect is commonly used.  That's for servers.  You sure you didn't mean channel?  that's /join
[07:25] <Cold_FiRe> ok compz or xgl???
[07:25] <omenemo> well you guys rock but i think my pocket pc issue may be better suited for a pocketpc channel
[07:25] <brussel_> frogzoo, you totally lost me there. the sata cards come with their own drivers and they supply linux drivers for redhat and suse usually, along with BSD and others but none of them mention ubuntu. going to ubuntu hardware support there is only one card that is supported and that card is only partially supported.
[07:26] <Cold_FiRe> compiz*
[07:26] <jormung> what is modem talking cold fire?
[07:26] <Cold_FiRe> ?
[07:26] <jormung> one compr has a modem the other doesnt
[07:26] <Cold_FiRe> you lan the computers over a modem line
[07:26] <brussel_> frogzoo, i was hoping that the documentation was out-of-date and could lead me to more current documentation showing support for some cards...
[07:26] <Cold_FiRe> but its only 64kb
[07:27] <Cold_FiRe> or watever speed the modem is
[07:27] <jormung> do both computers need a modem
[07:27] <Cold_FiRe> its somthing like you have to connect to the other persons ip
[07:27] <Cold_FiRe> yea
[07:27] <Cold_FiRe> its from modem to modem
[07:27] <brussel_> frogzoo, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSerialATAControllers?highlight=%28%283ware+9500%29%29 to see what i'm talking about
[07:27] <Kragnerac>  :)
[07:28] <jormung> ok. will a cross link cable work, coldfire?
[07:28] <corevette> if i'm installing ubuntu on vmware on windows xp...is there a special VM i should use?
[07:28] <Cold_FiRe> wait a cross link cable is the one with ethernet connections isnt it?
[07:29] <jormung> this is what wiki says
[07:29] <jormung> A crossover cable is a cable that maps all output signals on one connector to the input signals on the other connector, allowing two electronic devices to perform full-duplex communication. Most commonly, the term refers to the Ethernet crossover cable, but other cables follow the same principle. It also allows for reliable transmission via an Ethernet connection
[07:29] <ani> !doc
[07:29] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[07:29] <mattdwilnew> anyone around?
[07:30] <eoX> !doc
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> !anyone | mattdwilnew
[07:30] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[07:30] <ubotu> mattdwilnew: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:30] <frogzoo> mattdwilnew: ask a silly question...
[07:30] <olympionex> Flannel: I tried reconstructor and uck, but I can't seem to find any information about what the livecd does when it boots up.  Its grabbing some configuration files from somewhere that I can't find on the filesystem.
[07:30] <Cold_FiRe> yea.... if you want to do modem lan then you need that cable(not sure what its called tho) that can plug into a computer modem from one end and another computer modem from the other end
[07:30] <CorpseFeeder> Yo! I've almost got all my printer problems solved. Now, on the XP machine, when I try to add the printer (shared from a Ubuntu machine with CUPS), I am presented with a username/password login box. I don't know what to enter here or how to disable this. I think I have to edit my dupsd.conf file, but I don't know what to change. Who will help me?
[07:30] <Cold_FiRe> no i cross link cable wont work
[07:31] <CorpseFeeder> dupsd.conf=cupsd.conf too btw
[07:32] <CorpseFeeder> I don't want to use samba to share my printer, as I understand XP will be able to access it through ipp/cups sharing
[07:32] <jormung> does anyone else know how to network a win98 and a ubuntu 6.06?
[07:33] <mattdwilnew> having a few installation issues with ubuntu 6.10. Originally i thought it was the RAID i had, but after unplugging that it hangs on auto install
[07:33] <corevette> does anyone know of any ubuntu vmware image files???
[07:33] <CorpseFeeder> what (if anything) do I need to modify in my cupsd.conf file so that XP can access the shared printer on my Ubuntu box?
[07:33] <mattdwilnew> anyone know of a list of boot commands?
[07:34] <Cold_FiRe> compiz or xgl?
[07:35] <CorpseFeeder> any help on getting XP to access my printer using ipp/cups is appreciated. Thanks.
[07:35] <CorpseFeeder> does anyone want to see my cupsd.conf file? shall I post it to pastebin?
[07:36] <riotkittie> that reminds me, i need to try to get my printer up and running
[07:36] <frogzoo> Cold_FiRe: beryl > compiz
[07:37] <Cold_FiRe> i cant figure out how to install beryl... do u need internet to use it
[07:37] <Cold_FiRe> !beryl
[07:37] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:39] <omenemo> OMG! I GOT Q3 TO RUN IN UBUNTU!!! I want to say THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!! to the entire community!
[07:39] <omenemo> THANK YOU!
[07:39] <arash_> is there a tutorial for installing Ruby on Rails?
[07:39] <corevette> what are the differences between these: http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/vmware/ and normal download images
[07:40] <omenemo> if anyone cares, it even runs better ;)
[07:40] <CorpseFeeder> I've almost got all my printer problems solved. Now, on the XP machine, when I try to add the printer (shared from a Ubuntu machine with CUPS), I am presented with a username/password login box. I don't know what to enter here or how to disable this. I think I have to edit my dupsd.conf file, but I don't know what to change. Who will help me?
[07:40] <riotkittie> vmware images run in virtual machines or players
[07:40] <Flannel> arash_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RubyOnRails
[07:41] <ciscosurfer> Anyone know of a good TV tuner card to use with ubuntu?
[07:41] <riotkittie> while normal iamages ... are installed on your hd
[07:41] <corevette> riotkittie how are they different image files...will normal ubuntu image files not work with vmware?
[07:42] <omenemo> i have ubuntu running, if i DL kde for ubuntu, will everything i have setup now xfer over?
[07:43] <biglebowski> xfer?
[07:43] <omenemo> *transfer
[07:43] <riotkittie> corevette: im not really sure - i was going to install a vmplayer on our xp desktop but didnt get around to it earlier. i am wondering if its like maybe those are preconfig'ed and they just run and you dont have to go through an install process
[07:43] <arash_> Flannel thanks
[07:43] <riotkittie> or something. i am tired. and inarticulate. <shuts up>
[07:43] <omenemo> like will my installed programs and repositories and stuff like that
[07:44] <riotkittie> omenemo: yes
[07:44] <CorpseFeeder> should I add "Listen *:631" and "Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock" to my cupsd.conf file? what does that do?
[07:44] <corevette> riotkittie...i just tried vmware with a normal ubuntu image...and it wouldn't even start during the loading process...you think these images will work?
[07:44] <esc> has anyone had trouble logging into googletalk with gaim beta6?
[07:44] <biglebowski> omenemo, no .. they would stay .. just isntall kubuntu-desktop
[07:44] <CorpseFeeder> i see the second line is already in there
[07:44] <riotkittie> corevette: have no clue. try it - at worst, all you lose is a bit of time downloading
[07:45] <omenemo> biglebowski: does that keep everything the way i have it now?
[07:45] <CorpseFeeder> should I add  "Listen *:631" to my cupsd.conf? what will that fix?
[07:45] <biglebowski> omenemo, what exactly are you worried about? your config, files and home directory will remain
[07:46] <omenemo> if i want to run quake3 in the terminal all i have to do is type quake3.  will that stay?
[07:46] <biglebowski> omenemo, yes ...
[07:46] <omenemo> god is good
[07:46] <Flannel> omenemo: installing kubuntu-desktop simply adds a second desktop environment (that's the GUI) ontop of the system, everything will stay as it is, except you'll have a new choice of Desktops
[07:47] <omenemo> and i can get that from add/remove? flannel
[07:48] <biglebowski> omenemo, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:48] <biglebowski> omenemo, sudo of course
[07:48] <CorpseFeeder> somebody, please tell me how to avoid this daft login box when trying to add a shared printer to the XP computer... someone must know, surely?
[07:48] <mikejanssen> i tried kubuntu...didnt like it
[07:48] <biglebowski> omenemo, or synaptic
[07:48] <mikejanssen> seemed to be slower for me
[07:48] <biglebowski> mikejanssen, you mean you didn't like KDE
[07:48] <mikejanssen> yea
[07:48] <feengur> gah
[07:48] <mikejanssen> heh
[07:48] <mikejanssen> kde
[07:48] <Cold_FiRe> wats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu
[07:49] <mikejanssen> didnt like kde
[07:49] <Cold_FiRe> oh
[07:49] <feengur> kubuntu uses kde
[07:49] <Daemonik> what dhcp client does Ubuntu Edgy use on the LiveCD??
[07:49] <Cold_FiRe> is it just running on kde insted of gnome or whatever else
[07:49] <biglebowski> mikejanssen, I love it .. that yakuake terminal is my favorite little thing :)(
[07:49] <biglebowski> :)
[07:49] <mikejanssen> i think gnome is gonna be my gui of choice
[07:49] <riotkittie> yeah its just got kde
[07:49] <riotkittie> the underlying os is the same
[07:49] <Cold_FiRe> well i dont really like kde
[07:50] <frogzoo> mikejanssen: you only say that cos you haven't tried beryl
[07:50] <mikejanssen> am i the only one kde ran slower for?
[07:50] <Cold_FiRe> to be onist
[07:50] <feengur> need some help with something.  I installed the nvidia driver using automatix2 and now my refresh rate is right, but my resolution is locked at 800x600
[07:50] <biglebowski> it runs fine for me ...
[07:50] <Daemonik> what dhcp client does Ubuntu Edgy use on the LiveCD??
[07:50] <mark_> Can someone suggest a source.list entry for libdvdcss on amd64?  Everything I've found on the web is wrong...
[07:50] <feengur> the xorg0.log reports that none of my modes can be validated
[07:50] <frogzoo> mikejanssen: gnome got much faster from dapper to edgy
[07:50] <maddash> feengur: run `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`
[07:50] <biglebowski> can't wait for KDE 4 to come out :D
[07:50] <esc> mikejanssen: I run kde. and it's quite fast. I did a kde-core install & it's as fast as, say, xfce
[07:51] <feengur> mad, i've done that 4 times already :P .  in my xorg.conf the modes are listed correctly, but it still sets a virtual desk resolution
[07:51] <esc> kde4 yeah hopefully that'll be good. supposed to be fast
[07:51] <feengur> i've even gone as far as re-installing the os and trying again
[07:51] <Gosha> !ftp
[07:51] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[07:51] <CorpseFeeder> there are loads of posts in the forums quoting... "Sharing a printer with cups is easy and has always worked. Using ipp." - yet nowhere can I find how to get past this infernal XP asking for a username/password just to be able to add the printer. help!
[07:51] <omenemo> wow, nearly another half gig for kde
[07:51] <esc> *kftpgrabber
[07:52] <Cold_FiRe> hey can u use vmware on ubuntu but make the image on a windos partion?
[07:52] <Cold_FiRe> windows
[07:52] <Cold_FiRe> cuz i set my ubuntu to have 4gb and my windows to have 16
[07:53] <Cold_FiRe> seeing as windows takes more
[07:53] <Cold_FiRe> but i want to use vmware so i can fully use ubuntu
[07:53] <beginner> is that any alternative  for xorg
[07:53] <beginner> for ubuntu edgy?
[07:54] <maddash> feengur: post up your Xorg.log
[07:54] <mikejanssen> beryl worth tryin out?
[07:54] <CorpseFeeder> is sharing a printer with XP using ipp now impossible to do in Edgy? Am I forced to install and use samba for my printer now???
[07:54] <beginner> it seems that xorg is eating memory
[07:54] <beginner> even when I run fluxbox
[07:54] <riotkittie> uh
[07:54] <beginner> anyone?
[07:54] <riotkittie> try using your xp name and pass?
[07:55] <biglebowski> Cold_FiRe, which is your host machine? windows or linux?
[07:55] <Cold_FiRe> linux
[07:55] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder, have you read the !cups stuff?
[07:55] <biglebowski> Cold_FiRe, so you have to virtual machines running now?
[07:55] <CorpseFeeder> flannel: what? where?
[07:55] <Flannel> !cups | CorpseFeeder
[07:55] <ubotu> CorpseFeeder: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:55] <Cold_FiRe> no
[07:56] <Cold_FiRe> im on my windows boot
[07:56] <[SilverFox] > for some reason desktop install use it get to the prepare disk space and i have set 56% 30gigs and then i click forward thinks min then the button forward ready be used again click it like does nothing just pretends to think but pc aint making thinking noises or anything....
[07:56] <biglebowski> Cold_FiRe, what? explain how you have your hosts and vms set up
[07:56] <feengur> i reinstalled, what is the url for the paste bin again?
[07:56] <feengur> !paste
[07:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:57] <Cold_FiRe> i dual booted with ubuntu, but i want the boot image on my windows partions so linux accesses the windows partions to boot the Virtual OS, my linux partion has 3gb and my windows has 16 so i want to use my windows pariton
[07:58] <newbieme> hello all.. i have a fresh install of ubuntu linux in my machine... right now im trying to compile an application but when i executed ./configure it says tsh: make: command not found" how can i install/enable make command? hat "
[07:58] <newbieme> thanks in advance
[07:58] <feengur> maddog: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2518/
[07:58] <feengur> xorg0.log
[07:58] <feengur> i'll post up the xorg.conf as well
[07:58] <biglebowski> Cold_FiRe, so you want to run vmware in linux, but want it to load the vm files from the windows partition
[07:58] <Flannel> !build-essential | newbieme
[07:58] <ubotu> newbieme: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:58] <Cold_FiRe> yea pritty much
[07:58] <maddash> newbieme: sudo aptitude install make gcc
[07:58] <Flannel> newbieme: which app?
[07:58] <biglebowski> Cold_FiRe, what FS on windows?
[07:59] <Cold_FiRe> ntfs
[07:59] <maddash> newbieme: open a  cmd terminal and type in, `sudo aptitude install make gcc`
[07:59] <riotkittie> newbieme: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:59] <Cold_FiRe> but ill convert it to fat32
[07:59] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, why not just toss the windows partition if you're not going to use it.  just join the partitions with gparted?
[07:59] <Flannel> maddash: gcc doesn't include the libraries, or some of the toolchain, build-essential is a better (meta)package
[07:59] <Cold_FiRe> wat... join the partions? gparted?
[07:59] <maddash> Flannel: like?
[07:59] <newbieme> thanks for the info guys!! thank you so much!
[08:00] <biglebowski> Cold_FiRe, yeah .. you can access both of these in linux .. just have to mount them write.. you can use ntfs-3g for write support to windows partition .. its believed to be pretty safe
[08:00] <[SilverFox] > for some reason desktop install use it get to the prepare disk space and i have set 56% 30gigs and then i click forward thinks min then the button forward ready be used again click it like does nothing just pretends to think but pc aint making thinking noises or anything....
[08:00] <feengur> mad:  here's the xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2519/
[08:00] <Cold_FiRe> how do i get it?
[08:00] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[08:00] <feengur> it all looks right
[08:00] <Flannel> maddash: well, gcc doesn't install g++, and also doesn't install libc6-dev, or make.
[08:00] <Cold_FiRe> k
[08:01] <CorpseFeeder> thanks flannel, looks like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP has some useful info I have not seen/tried yet. I will see what happens.
[08:01] <Cold_FiRe> so it will basicly let linux write to windows partion
[08:01] <Cold_FiRe> ntfs partion
[08:01] <Flannel> !ntfs | Cold_FiRe
[08:01] <ubotu> Cold_FiRe: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:01] <biglebowski> Cold_FiRe, yes, ntfs-3g, its safer than the module that  comes with the kernel
[08:02] <biglebowski> there you go
[08:02] <Flannel> Cold_FiRe: ubuntu can already read your NTFS, however writing isn't completely stable yet.  No need to reformat to fat
[08:02] <Cold_FiRe> ok good
[08:02] <Spasticteapot> Anyone know anything about Genesys USB adapters?
[08:02] <maddash> !anyone
[08:02] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:02] <[SilverFox] > for some reason desktop install use it get to the prepare disk space and i have set 56% 30gigs and then i click forward thinks min then the button forward ready be used again click it like does nothing just pretends to think but pc aint making thinking noises or anything....
[08:02] <feengur> Flannel: is ntfs read supported in Dapper? or just Edgy atm?
[08:03] <Spasticteapot> I have one, and the confounded thing won't work - something about max_sectors needing to be set to 32.
[08:03] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, it's pointless to use the ntfs partition if you're just using a virtual os.  It will be faster in native filesystem
[08:03] <Flannel> feengur: yes, its supported... since Breezy, I believe.
[08:03] <maddash> feengur: read works from breezy on.
[08:03] <Cold_FiRe> ok
[08:03] <feengur> about my modelist problems?
[08:03] <Cold_FiRe> ill just resize the file system
[08:03] <Spasticteapot> Also, how could I access a NTFS partition on my drive?
[08:04] <Spasticteapot> I really need to do one or the other - I've got a paper I need to finish!
[08:04] <omenemo> here is a problemo.  When i put a certian disk in my cd drive, it does not display.  how do i find it??
[08:04] <Flannel> Spasticteapot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[08:04] <maddash> Spasticteapot: you mean read from the partition?
[08:04] <EnsignRedshirt> Have you used https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlashPlayer9?highlight=%289%29%7C%28flashplayer%29 to install flashplayer 9? Did you have any problems?
[08:04] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, sudo apt-get install gparted
[08:05] <subzero800> anyone: i am trying to get cedega working with my ati card, the test says direct rendering is working, but 3D accel is not working, and the game runs w/out accel, what should i do?
[08:05] <feengur> mad:  you red the logs yet?
[08:05] <Flannel> EnsignRedshirt: that's a dumb page.  flash9 is in backports, use that one.
[08:05] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, or search for gparted in synaptic
[08:05] <[SilverFox] > for some reason desktop install use it get to the prepare disk space and i have set 56% 30gigs and then i click forward thinks min then the button forward ready be used again click it like does nothing just pretends to think but pc aint making thinking noises or anything....
[08:06] <Flannel> !repeat | [SilverFox]
[08:06] <ubotu> [SilverFox] : Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:06] <Flannel> [SilverFox] : did you verify the CD?
[08:06] <CorpseFeeder> oh bollocks.. now i am getting 4093 forbidden from the CUPS configuration pages again. Why?
[08:06] <CorpseFeeder> 403 forbidden even
[08:06] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, then run gparted as root and you will be able to resize your ext3 partition
[08:06] <[SilverFox] > <Flannel> verify the CD? not sure how that helps lol its a fresh download and install from the off site.
[08:06] <Cold_FiRe> ive got partion magic it think that works?
[08:07] <CakeProphet> hrm...
[08:07] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, you may need to repartition the ntfs to ext3 first
[08:07] <EnsignRedshirt> Flannel: I'm using dapper, and I don't see it in dapper-backports (I'm searching in packages.ubuntu.com)
[08:07] <Flannel> [SilverFox] : at the original boot menu (you'll need to restart) there's a "verify CD integrity", fourth down, I believe.
[08:07] <Cold_FiRe> ok
[08:07] <CakeProphet> Flannel, heh... back
[08:07] <CakeProphet> I got the driver installed
[08:07] <CakeProphet> but...
[08:07] <Flannel> EnsignRedshirt: packages.ubuntu.com doesn't work with any of the backports ones.
[08:07] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, you need to do this in linux, not windows, since you would be deleting the windows partition
[08:07] <CakeProphet> the device still isn't working properly.
[08:07] <feengur> need to restart X
[08:07] <feengur> brb
[08:07] <Cold_FiRe> well ill just format my entire computer and use vmware on the the linux computer and that should have me covered
[08:08] <[SilverFox] > <Flannel> ok thanks I will check it out
[08:08] <EnsignRedshirt> Flannel: I didn't know that.  It does show the -backports repositories--is the data not maintained or updated?
[08:08] <CorpseFeeder> 403 forbidden will be the death of me. cups browser configuration is dead again. This sucks.
[08:08] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, if you don't mind losing your linux install, you can do it that way.
[08:09] <Cold_FiRe> ill just delete the windows partion then
[08:09] <Flannel> EnsignRedshirt: the data is non existant, as far as I know.  Actually, I don't think there is a method (besides browsing the repositories themselves) to know what's in backports.  I don't believe they have a list or anything
[08:10] <feengur> gah. still didn't work
[08:10] <EnsignRedshirt> Flannel: Wait, ignore what I said.  It does appear to be there (on packages.ubuntu.com).
[08:10] <subzero800> anyone: i am trying to get cedega working with my ati card, the test says direct rendering is working, but 3D accel is not working, and the game runs w/out accel, what should i do?
[08:10] <feengur> just ran:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it didn't do anything....
[08:10] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, that should work, but you may still need to use gparted or some linux program to format to ext3 if you have an older partition magic
[08:10] <Flannel> EnsignRedshirt: really?  that's news to me.
[08:11] <Flannel> EnsignRedshirt: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  search for "flashplugin-nonfree", you'll see it.
[08:11] <Cold_FiRe> ive got partition magic 7 and 8
[08:11] <feengur> is there a way to force a resolution onto X?
[08:11] <EnsignRedshirt> Flannel: According to the web pages, dapper-backports has flashplugin-nonfree: <IP_ADDRESS>.2ubuntu1~dapper1: i386
[08:12] <CorpseFeeder> when I add the cups shared printer to the XP box, where I enter http://<IP_ADDRESS>:631/printers/<printer name>... what do I put in <printer name>? where do I look to see what this name is?
[08:12] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, use 8 then. before you repartiition, let me just ask, are you wanting to use 3d-accelartion at all?
[08:12] <Cold_FiRe> yes
[08:12] <Flannel> EnsignRedshirt: that does seem to be consistent
[08:12] <Cold_FiRe> i want the windows to wobble and the cube desktop effect and the beryl themes
[08:13] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, I meant for the Windows install
[08:13] <Cold_FiRe> no
[08:13] <Cold_FiRe> windows i really only use for general stuff
[08:13] <hagabaka> can i upgrade from edgy to fiesty through apt-get distupgrade?
[08:13] <Cold_FiRe> plus on vmware it would be really slow
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> hagabaka: #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[08:14] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, okay, just making sure you weren't playing games or stuff because vmware doesn't even support 3d
[08:14] <Jedrick> !wine
[08:14] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:14] <Cold_FiRe> and i want to figure out how to fix my linux computer so i can have the windows on one side and the linux on another
[08:14] <subzero800> !ati
[08:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:15] <feengur> cold, you should install windows first
[08:15] <feengur> then linux
[08:15] <omenemo> does anyone know how i can access my almost un accessable cdrom drive? it does not display in nautilus
[08:15] <Cold_FiRe> ive already installed it
[08:15] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, have a dual screen setup?  you'll probably want vmware server rather than vmware player then
[08:15] <Cold_FiRe> no
[08:15] <Jedrick> my default browser is konqueror, how can i change it to firefox?
[08:16] <Cold_FiRe> ive got one screen and want to use vmware on diferent desktops
[08:16] <feengur> jed install/run firefox
[08:16] <feengur> and set as default browser
[08:16] <feengur> it should ask you
[08:16] <Cold_FiRe> wat vmware should i use?
[08:16] <feengur> if not, goto Edit>Preferences in firefox
[08:16] <feengur> you can set it from there
[08:16] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, ah, probably still want vmware server as that allows for fullscreen
[08:16] <eoX> !doc
[08:16] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[08:16] <redwyrm> !patience | redwyrm
[08:16] <ubotu> redwyrm: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:17] <Cold_FiRe> wat about workstation
[08:17] <Cold_FiRe> vmware workstation
[08:17] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, workstation isn't free, if you purchase it, that one should be the best
[08:18] <Cold_FiRe> yea i dont mind paying
[08:18] <Cold_FiRe> im on the vmware website and i cant find where to download it from
[08:18] <Cold_FiRe> i found ace and this other thing
[08:19] <Cold_FiRe> but not workstation
[08:19] <yetist> hi
[08:19] <Cold_FiRe> i found it
[08:20] <feengur> hi yet
[08:21] <azz> Hiho.. for i wish you all good monday.... as it is posible :D
[08:21] <EnsignRedshirt> Flannel: Thanks for the backports tip--that saved me some work.
[08:22] <eternalswd> Cold_FiRe, go with that then.  That will also make it easier for you to create your virtual machine, rather than hacking one up. site should be http://www.vmware.com/products/ws/ if you haven't found it
[08:22] <CorpseFeeder> I have done everything in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP and still the login box on the XP machine refuses to budge. It accepts no username/password combination. And still I cannot get any access to the cups configuration browser pages from any machine on the network - 403 forbidden errors abound. I am no further ahead.
[08:22] <dabaR> how do I listen to .pls streams meant for winamp?
[08:23] <dabaR> did you set up a samba administrator user name, and tried that?
[08:24] <dabaR> with smbpasswd...
[08:24] <eternalswd> dabaR what music player do you use?
[08:24] <maddash> dabaR: just open it.
[08:24] <dabaR> I guess, I will read what it says on the wiki
[08:24] <dabaR> xmmx
[08:24] <omenemo> if i get: mount: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only
[08:24] <omenemo> mount: /dev/hda already mounted or /media/cdrom0 busy
[08:24] <omenemo> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda is already mounted on /media/cdrom0
[08:24] <omenemo> is there a path i can follow to get to the files on this cd?
[08:24] <maddash> dabaR: open it up with "ctrl L"
[08:24] <maddash> omenemo: `cd /media/cdrom0`
[08:25] <subzero800_> anyone here familiar with ATI drivers?
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> subzero800_: only in that their buggy
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> *they're
[08:26] <subzero800_> My problem is that I can'te get 3D accel to work in cedega with the driver :-( any clues?
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> subzero800_: does it work outside of cedega?
[08:26] <CorpseFeeder> my cups config is dead? any ideas how to fix this?
[08:26] <eternalswd> dabaR do you have mplayer?
[08:27] <omenemo> says i do not have permission, then when i sudo it, it says that sudo: cd: command not found, any ideas? maddash or anyone??
[08:27] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: did you check that cups is allowing remote access?
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> dabaR: I listen to .pls in mplayer, vlc, and rhythmbox successfully.
[08:27] <dabaR> I tried just opening the file, and I get pre-buffering constantly. I tried entering the URL with ctrl-L (including the .pls file) and it says Live Stream, and no music.
[08:27] <maddash> omenemo: `su` first
[08:28] <eternalswd> dabaR, xmms can't open .pls
[08:28] <subzero800_> tonyy: well let me see
[08:28] <maddash> dabaR: open up the pls in a txt editor
[08:28] <maddash> dabaR: manually paste over the stream URL
[08:28] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: explain how I would do that? I don't know for sure, but I assume it is since all the Macs can access the printer through ipp
[08:28] <mwe> omenemo: cd is a shell built in and not a binary file
[08:29] <mwe> omenemo: sudo -i. then do what you want
[08:29] <eternalswd> dabaR, or you can use mplayer via mplayer -playlist http://example.com/something.pls
[08:29] <maddash> eternalswd: yeah, it does. I just did.
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> omenemo: sudo chmod +x the directory giving you trouble
[08:29] <dabaR> It is aac http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8000/stream64.aac, I guess, I need to see how to set that up.
[08:29] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: you would edit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[08:29] <maddash> dabaR: I meant to paste it into xmms' 'ctrl+L"
[08:30] <maddash> dabaR: not sure if xmms can do aac...
[08:30] <subzero800_> tonyyarusso: 3D accel works in the 3d game Trigger fine
[08:30] <dabaR> maddash: Ya, I gt it, tried, already..
[08:30] <dabaR> I mean, got what you nmeant
[08:30] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: i edited cupsd.conf according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP that did not help me at all.
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> subzero800_: I'd check out the cedega support stuff then
[08:30] <maddash> dabaR: do `wget [url] ` them open it up in xmms
[08:31] <dabaR> ya, I got it, thank you very much.
[08:31] <CorpseFeeder> I would also like to know why I no longer am able to browse to the cups configuration pages.  403 forbidden
[08:31] <CorpseFeeder> 403 forbidden for all cups pages
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> CorpseFeeder: is the cupsys user a member of the shadow group?
[08:31] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: so you have Allow From 192.168.0.* or whatever your local network is? and restarted cups?
[08:31] <maddash> dabaR: sure.
[08:32] <CorpseFeeder> tonyyarusso: I have no idea
[08:32] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: yes and yes
[08:32] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: It really sound like a misconfiguration since you get forbidden. it does at least see it then
[08:33] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: you're not getting 404
[08:33] <CorpseFeeder> tonyyarusso: what is the shadow group? is that something to do with lexx?
[08:33] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: i get 403
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> CorpseFeeder: It allows it to read the /etc/shadow file for authorization
[08:33] <redwyrm> what command does selecting Hibernate run? i.e., from the same menu that has Logout, Shutdown, and Reboot
[08:34] <mwe> tonyyarusso: I don't think you get 403 if cupsd is not in shadow, do you? I don't at least.
[08:34] <[SilverFox] > for some reason desktop install use it get to the prepare disk space and i have set 56% 30gigs and then i click forward thinks min then the button forward ready be used again click it like does nothing just pretends to think but pc aint making thinking noises or anything.... (Updated I did a full scan 0 errors!)
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> mwe: I'm not really sure
[08:34] <mwe> tonyyarusso: can you open the page from the localhost?
[08:34] <maddash> how do I read realplayer streams?
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> mwe: ask him :)
[08:35] <CorpseFeeder> tonyyarusso: I do not think I even have a shadow group at all.
[08:35] <fek> moin
[08:35] <mwe> tonyyarusso: I just think it doesn't allow you to change things and I'm not sure it's even the case anymore
[08:35] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: ^^
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> mwe: could be
[08:35] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: can you open the page from the localhost?
[08:36] <tarelerulz> Could it be done to put the file from Ubuntu install cd on usb pen drive so you could install from it ?
[08:36] <mwe> tarelerulz: yes
[08:36] <mwe> tarelerulz: I did. there is a guide
[08:36] <feengur> omg fixed it :D
[08:37] <mwe> tarelerulz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[08:37] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: ok, yes I can. But i get 403 forbidden if i type the IP address still.
[08:37] <tarelerulz> Thanks a lot mwe
[08:37] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: can you pastebin /etc/cups/cupsd.conf?
[08:38] <tarelerulz> I lookd for that for long time and found nothing. all the stuff I found was for install ubuntu on usb not use it as live install
[08:38] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: I feel convinced it's where the problem lies
[08:38] <omenemo> how do i use a .x86.run file?
[08:38] <CorpseFeeder> where was pastebin url?
[08:38] <mwe> omenemo: which one? usually chmod +x it
[08:39] <heatxsink_> hello all, anyone in here use gnome-rdp, and have more than 4 screens
[08:39] <heatxsink_> it keeps giving me a bad error about not knowing which screen to use
[08:39] <DarthLappy> !paste | CorpseFeeder
[08:39] <ubotu> CorpseFeeder: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:40] <Jedrick> can i install .rpm file on ubuntu?
[08:41] <mwe> Jedrick: if you convert it with alien. be careful though
[08:41] <mwe> Jedrick: It usually a much better idea to try locate a native .deb
[08:41] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2520/ enjoy :)
[08:42] <Jedrick> ok
[08:42] <Cold_FiRe> !compiz
[08:42] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:42] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: what's the ip of the windows machine?
[08:43] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: um... don't know, I will go look, but it's definitely 192.168.1.* something
[08:43] <Rappermas> ok, question about the ubuntu installer--now i know that it create an ext3 file on the ntfs, right, and it modifies NTDLR, has anyone tried it?
[08:43] <Rappermas> the windows installer
[08:43] <Rappermas> wow i should've made that clear
[08:44] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: XP machine resides at <IP_ADDRESS> if that makes a difference...
[08:44] <maddash> Rappermas: huh? you want to boot to the ext3 from ntldr?
[08:44] <Rappermas> no
[08:44] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: ok. and on the localhost you can access <IP_ADDRESS>:631 but not the 192.168.1.x:631 page?
[08:44] <Rappermas> i want to know how the windows ubuntu installer works
[08:45] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: that is correct
[08:45] <Rappermas> have you guys heard of this thing?
[08:45] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: did you restart cups after changing the config?
[08:45] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: yes
[08:45] <maddash> Rappermas: just chk c:\boot.ini
[08:45] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: hmm
[08:45] <Rappermas> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=338279
[08:45] <Rappermas> check that out
[08:46] <maddash> already there. just chk boot.ini, as I said.
[08:46] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: hang on. phone ...
[08:46] <Rappermas> yeah, i was just wondering about the details of exactly how the thing works
[08:46] <Rappermas> i mean, i still install from actual media
[08:47] <Rappermas> i don't have any windows boxes
[08:47] <Rappermas> but some of my friends do
[08:47] <Rappermas> and this might be a great way to convert ppl
[08:47] <Matthai> hi, I am trying to play .mov file, but Totem says it can not play it, because "dvpp codec is not handled". I installed all additional codecs from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[08:47] <Matthai> any help?
[08:48] <Cold_FiRe> with compiz what do i download and is there an executable file like and rpm or deb file?
[08:48] <CorpseFeeder> i did type "xhost +" into a terminal window earlier today.. has that screwed up my access to cups configuration by any chance?
[08:48] <Rappermas> i also notice it's not done
[08:48] <gma> CorpseFeeder: no
[08:48] <omenemo> what would you do if you put a cd in the tray and then you did not have gui access to it?
[08:49] <CorpseFeeder> what does xhost + do anyway?
[08:49] <maddash> Matthai: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-79bfba9a0e96d62a622a47430239a1d49454c953
[08:49] <oFF-beAt> at installtion.. it'll b better is the disk partitioning was more like what was in "mandriva"
[08:49] <Rappermas> oh well
[08:49] <Rappermas> i'll play with it
[08:50] <Rappermas> maybe someone has windows install discs so i can try this
[08:50] <oFF-beAt> ubuntu disk partition is not so easy.. havin multiple windows to go thru dun give u the idea fully
[08:50] <gma> CorpseFeeder: lets anybody (on any machine) connect to your X display
[08:50] <gma> CorpseFeeder: type xhost on it's own to show who's authorised
[08:50] <Cold_FiRe> ?
[08:51] <gma> CorpseFeeder: type xhost - to remove the perms you added
[08:51] <Scabdates> help me!!!
[08:51] <mneptok> Scabdates: please state the nature of the emergency.
[08:51] <Matthai> maddash, it doesnt help... can you try to watch this movie (it is "rar-ed", you have to unpack it first): http://dl.oblivion-lost.de/Faction_HD.rar
[08:51] <Cold_FiRe> do i have do download all of this?
[08:51] <Cold_FiRe> http://download.gna.org/gcm/gnome-compiz-manager/
[08:52] <Flannel> !compiz | Cold_FiRe
[08:52] <ubotu> Cold_FiRe: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:52] <Cold_FiRe> yea but its a bit confusing... do i download all of those files
[08:52] <Scabdates> Alright. I've got one 30gb harddrive. I have about a 17 gb or so partition for linux with a 500 mb swap. The rest is for my original windows 2000 O/S. I don't have the windows 2000 boot disk. How can I remove Ubuntu entirely without windows 2000 data loss?
[08:52] <[SilverFox] > for some reason desktop install use it get to the prepare disk space and i have set 56% 30gigs and then i click forward thinks min then the button forward ready be used again click it like does nothing just pretends to think but pc aint making thinking noises or anything.... (Updated I did a full scan 0 errors!)
[08:52] <Cold_FiRe> theres like 50 or is there and rpm or deb file
[08:52] <CorpseFeeder> gma: I type "xhost -" but I'm not sure it did anything.. it just responds "access control enabled, only authorized clients can connect"
[08:53] <gma> CorpseFeeder: type just xhost to see who's authenticated. type xhost +, then type it again. then xhost -, and then xhost again
[08:53] <gma> CorpseFeeder: if you don't get it after that, read the man page.
[08:53] <seshomaru> hi , is there a mirror for security.ubuntu.com repository?
[08:53] <maddash> Scabdates: use the ubuntu installer cd
[08:54] <Cold_FiRe> do i have to compile COMPIZ ????
[08:54] <maddash> Scabdates: just jump to the partition manager, and delete the ubuntu partition
[08:54] <Cold_FiRe> or is there a rpm or deb files
[08:54] <Flannel> Cold_FiRe: if you read those pages, you get commands, to apt-get them: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz
[08:54] <Scabdates> But then I can't boot to windows 2000 becuase grub is gone or am I smoking some type of drug?
[08:54] <Flannel> Cold_FiRe: also, XGL/Beryl/etc support is in #ubuntu-xgl, not here.
[08:55] <Flannel> Scabdates: you need to find/make a windows disk, capable of running "fixmbr"
[08:55] <Flannel> Scabdates: or, install lilo
[08:55] <gma> seshomaru: I googled for you
[08:55] <Scabdates> Where can I get info on lilo?
[08:55] <gma> seshomaru: first hit http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127549
[08:55] <z0d14k> I am trying to set my laptop up so I can do presentations.  I can get dual display working, and I can get the correct resolution.  It defaults to 85Hz though, and I want to be able to specify 60 and/or 75.  It isn't an option in krandrtray or monitor settings....Any ideas?
[08:55] <gma> seshomaru: read jdong's answer
[08:55] <maddash> Scabdates: you're right. you'll need the windows cd you  don't have.
[08:55] <z0d14k> I see lots of posts in the forums about _increasing_ refresh rate, but none on _decreasing_ it.
[08:56] <nhamilton> hey all... can anyone recommend any good collaborative project management software? I'm running Ubuntu, but something web-based would be handy.
[08:57] <seshomaru> gma, reading...thanks
[08:57] <Scabdates> Flannel, do you know where I can download the windows 2000 professional boot disk? and if I do happen to find it will I be able to burn it as a cd instead of a floppy?
[08:57] <mneptok> Scabdates: you can boot to Ubuntu and use its installer to delete the partitions and make free space, or use a Windows app like Partition Magic. just do't touch the MBR.
[08:57] <maddash> Matthai: it plays fine...
[08:57] <CorpseFeeder> the man pages for xhost are very fascinating I'm sure, but they are lost on me unfortunately :) I think I shall just not worry about that for now.
[08:57] <maddash> Matthai: then again, I'm using vlc
[08:57] <Matthai> me too
[08:57] <maddash> Matthai: "stalkers"?
[08:57] <Matthai> yes
[08:57] <maddash> Matthai: did you install w32codecs?
[08:57] <Flannel> Scabdates: lilo is installable from the alternate CD, I'm not sure about how to do it from the Desktop CD
[08:57] <Matthai> I am just curious :-)
[08:57] <Matthai> yes, i have w32codesc
[08:58] <Flannel> Scabdates: no idea.  You might try asking in ##windows
[08:58] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: are you back yet?
[08:58] <Flannel> nhamilton: subversion?
[08:58] <Flannel> nhamilton: or, you want project management, not just version control.
[08:58] <redwyrm> nhamilton, plone
[08:58] <maddash> Matthai: what exactly does `vlc Faction...mov` return?
[08:58] <nhamilton> yeah - full project management... mainly for a 4 person team, including windows users
[08:59] <Scabdates> mneptok how do I know what the mbr is in the partition manager for linux?
[08:59] <redwyrm> nhamilton, http://plone.org/
[08:59] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: yeah. I think I found the error
[08:59] <tonyyarusso> What package provides the 'radeon' driver?
[08:59] <Cold_FiRe> 'sudo apt-get install compiz compiz-gnome' when i type anything with the sudo install command it says it 0 packages found.... where do i put the packages so it can be read
[08:59] <Matthai> maddash, nothing, I can hear the sound, but no video
[08:59] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: hoorah!!!
[08:59] <nhamilton> ok, cheers guys.. i'm checking it now
[08:59] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: change line 5 to Listen 631 instead of Port 631 and restart cups
[09:00] <mneptok> Scabdates: you con make partitions free space. (g)parted will not touch the MBR unless told to do so. don't tell it to do so. ;)
[09:00] <redwyrm> nhamilton, actually I misread your question. better look at Trac instead: http://trac.edgewall.org/
[09:00] <mneptok> Scabdates: grub-install is what you want to avoid.
[09:00] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: you might need BrowseAllow 192.168.1.* as well
[09:00] <mneptok> Scabdates: is this a Dell or some other big OEM machine?
[09:01] <Matthai> maddash, when I look at the info about video codec, it says dvpp
[09:01] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: where should I put browseallow?
[09:01] <mneptok> nhamilton: best bet is bzr among devs for branches, with SVN+Trac for trunk. :)
[09:02] <jordo23> ANyone here play SecondLife?
[09:02] <jordo23> On Edgy?
[09:02] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: in the beginning. and you need Allow 192.168.1.* in Location /admin/conf and Location /admin as well I think
[09:03] <Cold_FiRe> ?
[09:03] <maddash> Matthai: what version of vlc?
[09:04] <Ayabara> What is a good organizer/calendar to keep track of meetings and such?
[09:04] <Matthai> maddash, VLC media player 0.8.4 (wxWidgets interface)
[09:04] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: after all that - still no access, 403 again.
[09:05] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: paste the new file please
[09:05] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: and did you restart the server?
[09:05] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: and before you ask, yes cups was restarted
[09:05] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: too late ;)
[09:05] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: damnit
[09:05] <maddash> Matthai: I'm not sure, but do you have libvlc0 installed? and I'm using .8.6svn[...]
[09:06] <Scabdates> mnoptek can i completely remove the linux partition and swap with gparted?
[09:06] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2522/
[09:07] <matth2004> hey brosephs
[09:07] <frogzoo> Ayabara: evolution of course
[09:07] <kupesoft> I have 3 partitions already, how do I install an ext3 AND swap on the fourth?!
[09:07] <Matthai> maddash, hmm, it seems no. when I say sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep libvlc0
[09:07] <Matthai> I get nothing
[09:08] <frogzoo> kupesoft: you create an 'extended' partition, & create 2 partitions inside
[09:08] <maddash> Matthai: packages.ubuntu.com
[09:08] <kupesoft> frogzoo, thanks!
[09:08] <Matthai> maddash, but libvlc0 package is not on the repositories...
[09:08] <cafuego_> Matthai: an eaier way: 'dpkg -l libvlc0'
[09:08] <CorpseFeeder> printer sharing with XP is pants.  It's Allow blah not Allow From blah
[09:09] <Ayabara> frogzoo, hmm. evolution hasn't been nice to me. slow and with mysterious crashes. I use it with an exchange server
[09:09] <frogzoo> Ayabara: the prob is the exchange i/f, also, upgrade to edgy
[09:09] <Moose> How would I go about installing nfs?
[09:09] <mneptok> Scabdates: can you boot to Windows now?
[09:09] <matth2004> any linux distro especially ubuntu owns xp in networking
[09:10] <mneptok> Scabdates: is this a Dell or some other big OEM machine?
[09:10] <matth2004> dells are crap
[09:10] <Scabdates> im on windows right now
[09:10] <Scabdates> its a custom built rather low end machine
[09:10] <mneptok> Scabdates: do you have some non-destructve partition manager like Partition Magic?
[09:10] <Matthai> maddash, hm... sudo apt-get install libvlc0-dev (I have Dapper), I installed it, but it is not working
[09:11] <Scabdates> i have acronis partitioner and partitionmagic
[09:11] <iblicf> hi
[09:11] <Moose> How would I go about installing nfs?
[09:11] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: just out of interest, are all these changes you're sugesting to me based on any knowledge/experience, or are you just making them up as we go along? ;) nethertheless, I will now make those changes.
[09:11] <gma> !nfs
[09:11] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[09:11] <maddash> Matthai: try downloading the pkgs from the link, and doing a dpkg -i
[09:11] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: I'd remove the Deny From All. I'm sure it's correct. I don't have it yet it seems to deny from everything else
[09:12] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: I've set up a few cups servers but I wouldn't consider myself a cups expert
[09:12] <Scabdates> if i use partition magic will i be able to remove all traces of ubuntu but still be able to boot into windows 2000 pro?
[09:12] <mneptok> Scabdates: you can use PM to remve the Linux partitions (including swap) and meld them back into Windows
[09:13] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: I'm using my own file as reference right now but I know how it works ;)
[09:14] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: give yourself a medal... the 403 forbidden message has quit bugging me
[09:14] <Scabdates> so if i go into partition magic, and i remove the linux partitions including swap ill still be able to boot into windows with GRUB?
[09:14] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: congrats
[09:14] <L1> Need help locating missing "Applications Places System" menus from Dapper menu panel.  Other panel apps OK
[09:14] <Ayabara> frogzoo, I am in Edgy, and I'll give it another try :-)
[09:15] <frogzoo> Ayabara: might not be worth it, the exchange i/f is meant to be badly kludged
[09:15] <mneptok> Scabdates: correct
[09:15] <CorpseFeeder> now my other problem.. trying to add this shared printer to XP :( that probably still isn't working. I will go look.
[09:16] <Cold_FiRe> no one is talking in the xgl channel
[09:16] <Scabdates> alright
[09:16] <Scabdates> ill give it a try
[09:16] <Ayabara> frogzoo, ok. then I must renew my question for another good calender app :-)
[09:16] <feengur> anyone here play ET?
[09:16] <mneptok> Scabdates: if you're booted to Windows you might be abse to run fixmbr from a shell and overwrite GRUB with the NT bootloader.
[09:16] <mneptok> *able
[09:17] <iain> My computer doesn't find grub after I installed Ubuntu.  How can I make it?
[09:17] <feengur> i just realised that I installed the amd64 Ubuntu and ET only offers 32-bit versions...
[09:17] <Flannel> !grub | iain, first link
[09:17] <ubotu> iain, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:17] <feengur> how do i install with that?
[09:17] <feengur> i saw something like.... linux32 something.sh
[09:17] <feengur> but, invalid command
[09:17] <Matthai> maddash, sorry, I cant' find dicert link to .deb package... can you help please?
[09:17] <Flannel> !chroot | feengur
[09:17] <ubotu> feengur: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[09:18] <feengur> thanks flan :D
[09:18] <iain> Flannel: thx, I'll look
[09:18] <Scabdates> alright i just went into partition magic and click delete on both linux partitions, so now after i restart and it applies the changes and then restarts again it will boot into regular windows?
[09:18] <Cold_FiRe> can anyone tell me why this doesnt work... i try the sudo install command and the only thing that comes up is 0 packages found
[09:18] <maddash> Matthai: did you go to my above link?
[09:18] <Flannel> Cold_FiRe: did you add the repositories you were supposed to?
[09:18] <Cold_FiRe> then it says 0 paskages installed
[09:19] <mwe> Scabdates: grub will still be present
[09:19] <Cold_FiRe> wats that?
[09:19] <erpo> I need to use my quickcam express in Edgy. I can only find links to the source code for a driver. Is there a prebuilt deb for Edgy with the driver in it?
[09:19] <Matthai> maddash, yes, this one: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=libvlc0&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[09:19] <Matthai> maddash, Then I go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libdevel/libvlc0-dev
[09:19] <Scabdates> ive heard that if grub doesnt detect ubuntu anymrore it will give me an error? is this true?
[09:19] <mwe> Scabdates: you need to boot the XP cd to the recovery console and do fixboot and fixmbr to get rid of it
[09:19] <Cold_FiRe> Flannel: whats repositories?
[09:19] <Matthai> but here I cant find link to .deb file... maybe I am blind... :-/
[09:19] <maddash> Matthai: click on "edgy"...and follow the links..
[09:20] <Matthai> I do not have edgy, I have dapper
[09:20] <Scabdates> im on windows 2000 pro and i dont have a boot disk
[09:20] <Flannel> Cold_FiRe: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[09:20] <Cold_FiRe> 6.10
[09:20] <maddash> Matthai: should still work
[09:20] <Cold_FiRe> the new one
[09:20] <mneptok> Scabdates: if you're booted to Windows you might be able to run fixmbr from a shell and overwrite GRUB with the NT bootloader.
[09:20] <mneptok> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[09:20] <Matthai> OK... but I am here now: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/libs/libvlc0
[09:20] <maddash> ugh. http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Funiverse%2Fv%2Fvlc%2Flibvlc0_0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1_i386.deb&md5sum=9512fc9e7b935e10ca057193cdb3ee7e&arch=i386&type=main
[09:21] <Scabdates> mneptok can you give me more info on that?
[09:21] <maddash> assuming you're using x86
[09:21] <CorpseFeeder> mwe: holy crap batman :) ...even adding the shared printer to the XP machine is working now,, without asking for any stupid non-existent password. woohoo! wonders will never cease.
[09:21] <mwe> CorpseFeeder: heh
[09:21] <Flannel> Cold_FiRe: you need to enable universe, but actually, to run Compiz, you already need either XGL or AIGLX, read the first link paragraph on the page, follow the link
[09:22] <Cold_FiRe> k
[09:22] <maddash> Matthai: I have to go now, but try googling for an answer. chances are that you're not the first one to run into this problem
[09:22] <mwe> maddash: that's the ugliest URL I've seen in a while ;)
[09:22] <Matthai> maddash, ugh, it wont work... dpkg: considering removing vlc in favour of libvlc0 ...
[09:22] <Matthai> dpkg: no, cannot remove vlc (--auto-deconfigure will help):
[09:22] <Matthai>  mozilla-plugin-vlc depends on vlc (= 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6)
[09:22] <Matthai>   vlc is to be removed.
[09:22] <Matthai> dpkg: regarding libvlc0_0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1_i386.deb containing libvlc0:
[09:22] <Matthai>  libvlc0 conflicts with vlc (<< 0.8.6-svn200609<IP_ADDRESS>-1-svn.debian-3)
[09:22] <Matthai>   vlc (version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6) is installed.
[09:22] <Matthai> dpkg: error processing libvlc0_0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1_i386.deb (--install):
[09:22] <Matthai>  conflicting packages - not installing libvlc0
[09:22] <Matthai> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:22] <Flannel> !paste | Matthai
[09:22] <ubotu> Matthai: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:22] <Matthai>  libvlc0_0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[09:22] <mwe> Matthai: stop
[09:23] <Matthai> sorry for this
[09:23] <mwe> Matthai: don't do that again
[09:23] <Cold_FiRe> ok but how do i use the sudo install comand
[09:23] <maddash> Matthai: use a pastebin
[09:23] <maddash> !paste|grep matthai
[09:23] <ubotu> grep matthai: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:23] <maddash> !paste|matthai
[09:23] <ubotu> matthai: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:23] <maddash> gosh.
[09:23] <mneptok> Scabdates: no, i can't. i don't use Windows.
[09:23] <Scabdates> darn
[09:23] <Matthai> OK, I understand, sorry again for this
[09:23] <Cold_FiRe> whats dapper  6.06(is it already in 6.10 ubuntu)
[09:23] <Flannel> Cold_FiRe: You were using it correctly, you just didn't have universe enabled
[09:23] <nhamilton> thanks guys... i just checked  out those recommendations.. I'm really looking for something more along the lines of http://www.basecamphq.com/tour... it needs to have some basic business management as well on the project
[09:23] <Cold_FiRe> how do i enable universe
[09:23] <Flannel> Cold_FiRe: dapper is 6.06, you're running 6.10 (Edgy)
[09:23] <Scabdates> can anybody help me with this?
[09:24] <Flannel> !universe | Cold_FiRe
[09:24] <ubotu> Cold_FiRe: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:24] <Matthai> OK, I will try to google it again (I used to do this before)
[09:24] <mneptok> Scabdates: it's not like Goggle returns 0 results for "restore xp mbr"
[09:24] <L1> Need help locating missing "Applications Places System" menus from Dapper menu panel.  Other panel apps OK
[09:24] <Scabdates> im on windows 2000 pro :P
[09:25] <Scabdates> mneptok
[09:25] <Scabdates> would this work?
[09:25] <Scabdates> Microsoft Knowledge Base Article: 216417 Describes how to install the Windows 2000 Recovery console to your hard disk. Note that if you install this tool to your local hard disk, Windows 2000 Recovery console is added as a choice on the Windows 2000 Startup menu.
[09:26] <mneptok> Scabdates: oh, then that makes all the differcence. no one has *EVER* documented the process of restoring a Win2K MBR ...
[09:26] <mwe> Scabdates: can't you just boot the XP cd and press R to get to it?
[09:26] <Scabdates> no boot disk
[09:26] <mwe> Scabdates: then type fixmbr and maybe fixboot once you get to it
[09:26] <mneptok> Scabdates: you don't HAVE a recovery console. you don't have a CD.
[09:26] <Scabdates> alright ill give that a try right now and get back to you fellas
[09:27] <mneptok> Scabdates: and now it's official. you want help with Windows. please /join ##windows and ask there.
[09:27] <WarriorMonk> Lol
[09:28] <mwe> mneptok: well uninstalling grub is linux related I think
[09:28] <preaction> mwe: you can't uninstall grub without putting something in its place
[09:29] <ubuntu> I followed the instructions on the wiki relating to GRUB, but my system still won't boot off the HDD.  Any idea what I can do?
[09:29] <mwe> preaction: I know
[09:29] <mwe> preaction: that's why I told him to use fixmbr from the XP CD
[09:29] <WarriorMonk> Network Interfaces: (#1 (Hamachi Network Interface (100Mb/s) 0.01MB In, 0.01MB Out) #2(Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit Controller - Packet Scheduler Miniport (1000Mb/s) 0.03MB In, 0.03MB Out) #3(WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface (115Kb/s) 29.51MB In, 0.83MB Out))
[09:30] <WarriorMonk> Wow 850+ users on here
[09:30] <mneptok> mwe: restoring ntldr is NOT Ubuntu related. and that's what he wanted to do.
[09:31] <WarriorMonk> Thats why I advocate make your damn backups!
[09:31] <WarriorMonk> And dont use IE
[09:31] <mwe> mneptok: ubuntu installed brub and didn't explain how to get rid of it. I think helping him doing that is in place
[09:31] <WarriorMonk> Whats a good program for backing up unix?
[09:31] <mwe> grub*
[09:32] <EnsignRedshirt> mneptok: What overwrote the ntldr
[09:32] <EnsignRedshirt> ?
[09:32] <WarriorMonk> What he do or try, a dual-boot?
[09:32] <mwe> EnsignRedshirt: someone installed ubuntu and couldn't get rid of grub
[09:32] <mneptok> WarriorMonk: rsync
[09:32] <mneptok> EnsignRedshirt: grub
[09:33] <WarriorMonk> Ok...
[09:33] <WarriorMonk> I just have not used rsysnc enough
[09:33] <WarriorMonk> I do know that acronis has backup software
[09:40] <nothlit> !mondo
[09:40] <ubotu> mondo: powerful disaster recovery suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.08-2-2 (edgy), package size 391 kB, installed size 1128 kB
[09:40] <nothlit> !sbackup
[09:41] <ubotu> sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe
[09:41] <christofkr> is somebody here who is familiar with the picard audio tagger?
[09:42] <aFlag> Hey. I was having trouble installing windows on my computer and then I did "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda count=1 bs=512". It deleted my partition table and the windows instalation started without any problems. But after editing my partition table with cfdisk, the instalation of windows doesn't even start (it locks on a black screen). Any ideas what could be the problem?
[09:43] <aFlag> Does linux uses a different partition table than dos, or something like that?
[09:44] <asciii> yes aFlag
[09:46] <aFlag> any ideas on how could I create a partition table that works on both systems?
[09:47] <someothernick> you installed windows after ubuntu?
[09:47] <aFlag> yes
[09:47] <aFlag> well, no, I'm trying to
[09:47] <aFlag> but I haven't install windows yet
[09:47] <gh0st> hello, how can i know the name of my machine ?
[09:47] <someothernick> oh
[09:48] <someothernick> do you have ubuntu installed?
[09:48] <aFlag> yes
[09:48] <redwyrm> look in /etc/hostname
[09:49] <asciii> or just type hostname
[09:49] <gh0st> ok thanks
[09:49] <gh0st> it didn't work for /etc/hostname but for hostname
[09:51] <fredl> I think my graphics card died :( I'm just seeing gibberish on the screen with some recognizable picture through it
[09:51] <nukeDev> unlucky
[09:51] <feengur> gah
[09:51] <nukeDev> could be the drivers
[09:51] <feengur> debootstrap doesn't seem to be doing anything
[09:51] <fredl> don't think so it has been working fine the way it is for quite some time and between last night when it still  worked and this morning nothing has changed.
[09:52] <Cold_FiRe_> ok well i have a network manager that i need to work but its in tar format and i dont know how to use it
[09:52] <oscar_> hello, can anybidy help me get codecs that will play old real media files?
[09:52] <fredl> so anyway I'm  looking for another card and I see this Asus EN6200LE, anybody using that?
[09:53] <fredl> it seems to be ridiculously cheap, only 40 euro.
[09:53] <someothernick> !hcl
[09:53] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:53] <Moose> What does "psh" do as a command?
[09:53] <aFlag> fredl sometimes things change overnight when no one is looking
[09:53] <Cold_FiRe_> i installed network manager and need some help
[09:53] <mneptok> Moose: deflates
[09:53] <Cold_FiRe_> how to i config it?
[09:54] <bimberi> !info psh
[09:54] <ubotu> psh: interactive shell with the power of perl. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8-6 (edgy), package size 155 kB, installed size 820 kB
[09:54] <Cold_FiRe_> it says no network or sumthing on the taskbar
[09:54] <Cold_FiRe_> how do i get to the settings
[09:54] <aFlag> fredl: I think intel video cards are cheap and they usually work fine
[09:54] <oscar_> right click it?
[09:54] <fredl> aFlag - uhuh :) like, the memory on your graphics card falls over =)
[09:54] <aFlag> but I don't know anything about that asus one
[09:54] <oscar_> left click actually i think
[09:54] <aFlag> Mine is from nvidia
[09:55] <fredl> aFlag - well it looks like it just has an nvidia 6200 which should work alright.
[09:55] <oscar_> you're not trying to setup a wpa connection are you?
[09:55] <Cold_FiRe_> how do i open the network manager
[09:56] <subzero800> anyone here familiar with ati/cedega?
[09:56] <Cold_FiRe_> how do i open the network manager thats all i want to know
[09:56] <nukeDev> hey how do you get 6.1 sound to work? the front two speakers are only working at the moment, also the sound is very bad quality, and the sound is 6.1 on-board (asus P4P800-E Deluxe)? Thanks.
[09:56] <subzero800> cold
[09:56] <subzero800> go to system
[09:56] <Cold_FiRe_> ok
[09:57] <subzero800> admininstration
[09:57] <subzero800> network
[09:57] <subzero800> networking*
[09:57] <Cold_FiRe_> yea
[09:57] <nukeDev> thats it
[09:57] <Cold_FiRe_> and dissbale from there then log out then back in, how do i input my wep key
[09:57] <fredl> it's funny though, if you look at http://mycom.nl/Products/View/ASUS_EN7900GS2DHT256M%2c_256MB/126666.aspx it says '256M effective memory' but at the bottom of the page it says 64Mb
[09:57] <bimberi> !networkmanager
[09:57] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[09:58] <Cold_FiRe_> yea for that
[09:58] <nukeDev> yeh it says 'effective memory' not the actual memory of the card
[09:58] <nukeDev> !5.1
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 5.1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <nukeDev> !6.1
[09:58] <Cold_FiRe_> i cant figure out where to type in the wep key
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 6.1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <nukeDev> !sound
[09:58] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:58] <fredl> so it steals memory from your mainboard?
[09:58] <mneptok> Cold_FiRe_: did you install network-manager-gnome?
[09:59] <Cold_FiRe_> yes
[09:59] <Cold_FiRe_> where do i go to type in the wep key
[09:59] <mneptok> Cold_FiRe_: then click its icon in the top panel
[09:59] <Cold_FiRe_> yea
[09:59] <nukeDev> hey how do you get 5.1 sound to work? the front two speakers are only working at the moment, also the sound is very bad quality, and the sound is 5.1 on-board (asus P4P800-E Deluxe)? Thanks.
[09:59] <fredl> Cold_FiRe_, it should give you a popup asking for the WEP key actually if your card is supported.
[09:59] <Cold_FiRe_> !sound
[09:59] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:59] <Cold_FiRe_> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[09:59] <Cold_FiRe_> ok
[10:00] <Cold_FiRe_> wats a good irc for linux
[10:00] <Cold_FiRe_> ubuntu
[10:00] <mneptok> complicated, eh? :P
[10:00] <mneptok> Cold_FiRe_: irssi
[10:00] <Cold_FiRe_> that in a dev or rpm format
[10:00] <frogzoo> !sound | nukeDev
[10:00] <ubotu> nukeDev: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:00] <Cold_FiRe_> is that in dev or rpm
[10:00] <mneptok> Cold_FiRe_: or do you need a GUI?
[10:00] <someothernick> xchat
[10:00] <Cold_FiRe_> no but its beter to have one
[10:01] <someothernick> kvirc is nice also
[10:01] <Cold_FiRe_> is it in a deb or rpm?
[10:01] <frogzoo> nukeDev: also, use the xine engine, not gstreamer which is glitchy
[10:01] <fredl> so an nvidia 6200 GPU.... not the very latest I'd assume, but if you hardly play games, just tuxracer every now and again and googleearth....
[10:01] <someothernick> sudo apt-get install xchat
[10:01] <fredl> that would work nicely, right?
[10:01] <Cold_FiRe_> wait, does that mean i need internet to download it
[10:01] <someothernick> yes
[10:01] <Cold_FiRe_> ok
[10:02] <Cold_FiRe_> well then the network manager first
[10:02] <Cold_FiRe_> well thanx
[10:02] <Cold_FiRe_> ill be back soon when i get it working
[10:02] <Cold_FiRe_> thnx
[10:02] <nukeDev> !xine engine
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine engine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <vinboy_> hi
[10:03] <vinboy_> how do I check if any package is depending on <abc package> before I remove it?
[10:03] <[SilverFox] > Anyone know if its possible use dell truemobile dw1450?
[10:04] <cypher1> vinboy_: apt does not remove the package if some other package depends on it.. unless you forcibly remove it
[10:04] <XVampireX> Don't you people wonder why (If you use wine) you got an update to wine package from the official repositories?
[10:04] <vinboy_> cypher1: yes I want to do apt-get remove <package>, will it tell me if other package is depending on it?
[10:05] <cypher1> vinboy_: yes
[10:05] <Elowaun> Is badmem patch already implemented in kernel 2.6.17-generic?
[10:05] <J03pk3> hello
[10:05] <J03pk3> i have a question about Edubuntu
[10:05] <vinboy_> thanks cypher1
[10:05] <frogzoo> Elowaun: mebbe check /boot/config-2.6.17-10-generic
[10:06] <[SilverFox] > hey guys what does one do when there dell wifi card in there i8600 does not exsist!?
[10:06] <J03pk3> my environment (screen 0 trough 6) boots in ltsp environment, but my X in " normal environment"
[10:06] <feengur> can i get some help installing a 32 bit app on 64 dapper?
[10:08] <nukeDev> feengur: what app?
[10:08] <Elowaun> !badmem
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about badmem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <feengur> Enemy Territory
[10:09] <feengur> i didn't even think about it before i installed the amd64 version :P
[10:09] <[SilverFox] > wtb dw1450
[10:09] <nukeDev> feengur: are you using wine or cedega?
[10:10] <feengur> neither
[10:10] <feengur> it's a linux build
[10:10] <nukeDev> o right
[10:10] <feengur> but it's x86 arch
[10:10] <nukeDev> i aint sure then, i have done it with wine before
[10:10] <nukeDev> sorry
[10:10] <feengur> someone posted about debootstrap, but most of the links are dead on that page anyway :P
[10:10] <feengur> nah, it's cool :D
[10:11] <fredl> huh, the nvidia 7600 is not supported on Ubuntu?
[10:11] <feengur> thanks anyway
[10:11] <feengur> yeah it is fred
[10:11] <feengur> < 7600 gt
[10:11] <nukeDev> fredl: use the new nvidia drivers
[10:11] <fredl> doesn't say it on the Hardware supported page I think.
[10:11] <feengur> it is :P
[10:11] <nukeDev> so that dont mean it isnt supported
[10:12] <feengur> are you running the 32 bit version? or 64?
[10:12] <fredl> well I don't have the card yet, just looking around to see what I should buy
[10:12] <fredl> and I'm running 32 bit
[10:12] <feengur> 7600gt ftw! :P
[10:12] <[SilverFox] > anyone know what one does to look for a driver? Cuz I mean been at it all night I really like us ubuntu but it did not install my wificard built in its a dell laptop.... is there no way? am i screwed???
[10:12] <feengur> XFX core
[10:12] <J03pk3> Does anyone know how it can be that my environment (screen 0 trough 6) boots in ltsp environment, but my X in " normal environment" ?
[10:13] <fredl> what's the difference between GT and GS feengur?
[10:13] <frogzoo> fredl: nvidia is pretty good about linux, I'd think they're all supported, but check the docs
[10:13] <frogzoo> !nvidia | fredl
[10:13] <ubotu> fredl: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:13] <feengur> GS is just hardware heavy
[10:13] <feengur> GT's are usually oc'ed
[10:14] <nukeDev> always get the GT's
[10:14] <feengur> XFX Nvidia GeForce 7600GT 256mb PCIE  $150
[10:14] <fredl> http://mycom.nl/Products/View/ASUS_EN7600GS_TOP_SILENTHTD512M/122729.aspx
[10:14] <feengur> 590mhz gpu , 1600mhz mem clock
[10:14] <feengur> 20 pixel pipelines
[10:14] <feengur> it's phenomenal
[10:14] <fredl> that's 145 euros, 7600GS, 512Mb PCIE
[10:14] <feengur> and it runs cool as well.  easy to oc even more
[10:15] <Jiraiya> salut
[10:15] <fredl> you checked that URL feengur? seems like a pretty good deal.
[10:15] <feengur> that's decent
[10:16] <feengur> but i don't trust ASUS for the gpu's
[10:16] <fredl> completely noiseless too.
[10:16] <feengur> they seem to burn out easily
[10:16] <[SilverFox] > anyone know where find a itc room for ubuntu support or help?
[10:16] <[SilverFox] > irc*
[10:16] <frogzoo> [SilverFox] : see the topic ^^^
[10:16] <feengur> this is the channel for that silver :P
[10:17] <fredl> Hmm, I think that's what happened to my ATI card too, a while ago it started getting hot so I installed a Zalman cooler, it worked fine after that but I think it gave up finally
[10:17] <feengur> unless you are looking for fiesty support
[10:17] <[SilverFox] > lol i asked same question 10 times so i dont know what to do anymore
[10:17] <feengur> what's the question?  i just got back a min ago
[10:17] <[SilverFox] > i guess no one knows the ubuntu enough to help me ;) theres no true man :D
[10:17] <[SilverFox] > anyone know what one does to look for a driver? Cuz I mean been at it all night I really like us ubuntu but it did not install my wificard built in its a dell laptop.... is there no way? am i screwed???
[10:18] <feengur> ahhh
[10:18] <feengur> have you checked the device manager already?
[10:18] <frogzoo> [SilverFox] : wifi support is patchy, it totally depends who made your card
[10:18] <feengur> is it reporting in there?
[10:18] <[SilverFox] > dont see it not sure how look though :) its a dell card
[10:18] <[SilverFox] > dell truemobile dw1450
[10:18] <frogzoo> [SilverFox] : what does 'sudo lspci' say it is?
[10:19] <feengur> koekje erbij?
[10:19] <Spasticteapot> Hello!
[10:19] <feengur> hehe ^^
[10:19] <[SilverFox] > hold on a sec gotta boot it from stanby ehhe
[10:19] <feengur> fredl nl?
[10:19] <Spasticteapot> Does anyone know why I can't install .tar.gz files?
[10:19] <tim__b> Spasticteapot you need to unpack them
[10:19] <lynucs> its an archive
[10:19] <feengur> lol
[10:19] <Spasticteapot> I do.
[10:20] <[SilverFox] > lol i cant even find the ssh window :(
[10:20] <wims> I use two monitors with a big desktop (ati mergedfb) , when i open a game it spans across both monitors. Is it possible to force it so that it only opens on one of my monitors instead of both ?
[10:20] <feengur> are you in X atm silver?
[10:20] <Spasticteapot> tar xzvf /home/me/Desktop/file.
[10:20] <[SilverFox] > yes n/m i found it
[10:20] <feengur> wims, what type of card you using?
[10:20] <wims> ati 9600xt
[10:20] <feengur> oh nm
[10:20] <feengur> kk
[10:20] <[SilverFox] > wow
[10:21] <Spastic_teapot> Stupid wifi...
[10:21] <[SilverFox] > install corp
[10:21] <[SilverFox] > yes it loads it
[10:21] <feengur> you have a control panel under applications>system tools?
[10:21] <feengur> for ati
[10:21] <lynucs> Spasticteapot, are you sure that that are installation files
[10:21] <Spastic_teapot> Anyway... I go tar xzvf (file directory/file), and it more or less works.
[10:21] <Spastic_teapot> Usually errors occur.
[10:22] <Spastic_teapot> I'm trying to install Airstrike - it's an arcade game.
[10:22] <nukeDev> hey i am trying to edit my x11 config file, so i type "sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf" but i only get a blank page, and when i try open the directory by "cd /etc/x11/" it says that it doesnt exist? Any Ideas?
[10:22] <feengur> nuke
[10:22] <lynucs> i guess the files aren't just .deb -packages, right, Spastic_teapot ?
[10:22] <frogzoo> nukeDev: capital X
[10:22] <feengur> linux is case sensitive
[10:22] <Spastic_teapot> Don't think so, no.
[10:22] <feengur> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:22] <freaky_> i install flash-nonfree and it created symlinks in the plugins directory for the browser, but the links are broken (they point to non-existant file) any ideas?
[10:23] <matsyes> hi is it possible to download ubuntu packages ...store them and then later install them on ones comp which is not online using synaptic
[10:23] <cikho> !list
[10:23] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:23] <matsyes> ???
[10:23] <nukeDev> frogzoo: thanks forgot about that
[10:23] <lynucs> Spastic_teapot, then there should be a readme file
[10:23] <lynucs> or install-file
[10:23] <lynucs> where the programmer tells you how to install
[10:23] <lynucs> id the files are binaries
[10:23] <Spastic_teapot> Nothing useful.
[10:23] <Spastic_teapot> It just says it's a snapshot.
[10:23] <oFF-beAt> this channel makes me feel good.. knowing that i'm not the only noob here
[10:24] <Spastic_teapot> I just installed Xubuntu on my laptop.
[10:24] <EmxBA> hi, I need two things.. first, how to delete Places menu from menus? and how to set up window titles so they don't take much place on desktop, if window title is XChat: EmxBA@freenode to make that "Xchat: Emx...."
[10:24] <feengur> matsyes you can check the archives and just d/l the deb files
[10:24] <Spastic_teapot> Headaches galore...but at least it does'nt constantly crash!
[10:24] <[SilverFox] > bah i found wifi settings but there no way to do without knowing the ESSID?
[10:24] <lynucs> Spastic_teapot, airstrike isnt in the ubuntu repository??
[10:24] <Spastic_teapot> WinXP would'nt even boot right.
[10:24] <Spastic_teapot> I don't think so...I'll check.
[10:24] <freaky_> [SilverFox] : install gnome-network-manager
[10:25] <matsyes> feengur:i downloaded a couple of .deb files but synaptic didnt seem to recognize them
[10:25] <tim__b> matsyes: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[10:26] <lynucs> Spastic_teapot, look: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Spiele/Ubuntu_Spiele?highlight=%28airstrike%29
[10:26] <lynucs> the packet is called airstrike.. just install i with synaptic
[10:26] <KEAL> "while working on ubuntu, you hardly notice the diamond smuggling task in the background."
[10:26] <feengur> gah, ich muss schlaffe
[10:26] <feengur> guten nacht
[10:26] <KEAL> nite
[10:27] <wims_> feengur, I got disconnected:/ I have an ATi 9600xt
[10:27] <feengur> lol
[10:27] <feengur> i was about to goto bed :P
[10:27] <feengur> anyway
[10:27] <KEAL> n8 feengur
[10:27] <feengur> you have a control panel under Applications>System Tools for the card?
[10:27] <feengur> thanks keal :D
[10:27] <KEAL> :)
[10:27] <wims_> feengur, nope
[10:28] <wims_> I'm using the open source driver, not the one provided by ATi
[10:28] <feengur> ahh
[10:28] <oFF-beAt> nice quit msg
[10:28] <[SilverFox] > bah frig whys everything so complicated
[10:28] <feengur> open up your xorg.conf and put the contents in the paste bin.  then post the link
[10:28] <[SilverFox] > im getting errors trying install lol
[10:29] <feengur> i'll brb
[10:29] <[SilverFox] > Network manager cannot be install on your computer type (i386)
[10:29] <[SilverFox] > :(
[10:29] <wims_> feengur, http://pastebin.ca/324433
[10:29] <matsyes> tim__b:also one more thing is there a way to download edgy eft directly and then upgrade and not via the iso file but using packages ???
[10:30] <tim__b> you can update via the synaptic update manager
[10:31] <tim__b> it downloads all new packages and installs them
[10:31] <mneptok> [SilverFox] : sudo aptitude install network-manager-gnome
[10:31] <[SilverFox] > ok ty
[10:31] <spasticteapot> stupid wifi lag...
[10:31] <spasticteapot> Regardless, I really need to install this: http://www.katix.org/speakerdesigner
[10:31] <mneptok> matsyes: upgrade Edgy to what ...?
[10:32] <spasticteapot> I have the .zip, and have uncompressed it. What to do with it, I don't know.
[10:32] <tim__b> mneptok seems like updating TO edgy
[10:32] <lynucs> Spastic_teapot, so do you have your airstrike now? :D
[10:33] <spasticteapot> Yup!
[10:33] <mneptok> tim__b: "download edgy eft directly and then upgrade" has me asking
[10:33] <spasticteapot> I need to install this, though: http://www.katix.org/speakerdesigner
[10:33] <spasticteapot> It's actually somewhat important.
[10:33] <feengur> back
[10:33] <spasticteapot> I have the .zip...and it's certianly not a .deb file I get!
[10:34] <mneptok> spasticteapot: heh, written by Karollina@Maemo :)
[10:34] <lynucs> Spastic_teapot, any install or readme files?
[10:34] <spasticteapot> Is that funny for a particular reason?
[10:34] <spasticteapot> Readme is useless.
[10:34] <[SilverFox] > sudo aptitude install network-manager-gnome = couldn't find any packages whose name or description matched "network-manager-gnome"
[10:34] <EnsignRedshirt> Can gaim be set up to beep or play a sound when my nick shows up?
[10:34] <lynucs> why useless
[10:34] <lynucs> [SilverFox] , maybe gnome-network-manager
[10:34] <mneptok> spasticteapot: only that i know her
[10:35] <[SilverFox] > kk
[10:35] <yopad> hey guys
[10:35] <yopad> can you help me install my wireless
[10:35] <[SilverFox] > nope :( lol cursed!
[10:35] <Flannel> EnsignRedshirt: probably.  Most people switch to real IRC clients before thinking about that though ;)
[10:35] <yopad> or direct metoa good manual
[10:35] <erUSUL> !wifi
[10:35] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:35] <matsyes> mneptokyeah i wanna upgrade to edgy eft
[10:35] <lynucs> [SilverFox] , sudo apt-get update
[10:35] <mneptok> [SilverFox] : check what repos you have enabled
[10:35] <lynucs> then
[10:36] <lynucs> sudo apt-get install gnome-network
[10:36] <lynucs> or gnome-nettool
[10:36] <matsyes> tim__b:i dont have a net connection on my ubuntu comp
[10:36] <lynucs> dunno which one you need
[10:36] <matsyes> mneptok: yeah i wanna upgrade to edgy eft
[10:36] <EnsignRedshirt> Flannel: Gaim works for me (and seems real enough), but what IRC client would you recommend?
[10:36] <spasticteapot> Wow, I suck at IRC.
[10:36] <mneptok> matsyes: from?
[10:36] <spasticteapot> Mneptok, tell her to check out diyaudio.com.
[10:37] <spasticteapot> THere's a lot of folks there who would appreicate it.
[10:37] <tim__b> matsyes, like i remeber, synaptic has a function to download packages for a non-intener machine at a internet-machine
[10:37] <oFF-beAt> EnsignRedshirt, xchat is nice
[10:37] <spasticteapot> I'm sort of a DIY speaker hobbyist myself.
[10:37] <matsyes> tim__b:and iso files have an irritating tendency to often end up with read write errors
[10:37] <foutrelis> morning! :P
[10:37] <spasticteapot> Xchat is good.
[10:37] <Flannel> EnsignRedshirt: the standard one in Ubuntu (in main) is "xchat-gnome", but a lot of people lamented the change to the -gnome version, and prefer just plain "xchat" (in universe)
[10:37] <EnsignRedshirt> oFF-beAt: Do you know if xchat can beep when my nick is used?
[10:38] <feengur> wims
[10:38] <wims_> yeap ?
[10:38] <feengur> have you tried altering the Merged vars?
[10:38] <oFF-beAt> EnsignRedshirt, i'll have to check.. i'm a recent convert to ubuntu.. from windows.. so i was more used to mirc heheh i'll check though
[10:38] <spasticteapot> Here's a tutorial on the software I'm trying to install that I can't make heads nor tales of. http://www.katix.org/speakerdesigner/instructions.php
[10:38] <spasticteapot> mIRC is pretty similar to Xchat.
[10:38] <yopad> question: why does the install from the live cd configure my wireless but the alternate doesnt?
[10:38] <feengur> i think MergedXinerama or MergedFB are the vars that are giving you that kind of trouble
[10:38] <tim__b> matsyes, you can add a cdrom as a backport via "sudo sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[10:39] <yopad> i have problems with the live cd...so slow...
[10:39] <wims_> feengur,  If i use mergedb  "false" then i only get cloned desktop
[10:39] <EnsignRedshirt> oFF-beAt: Don't go crazy finding out :) I can check too... just thought I'd see if you knew already.
[10:39] <tim__b> matsyes, so you don't have so run the install/upgrad routine
[10:39] <oFF-beAt> check preferences > sound
[10:39] <feengur> hmm
[10:39] <wims_> feengur, i want a big desktop, but when i play games i only want it to display on one of the monitors
[10:39] <oFF-beAt> u may find it there.. if u don't u can always write ur own script :P
[10:40] <timbobsteve> hey all
[10:40] <timbobsteve> can anyone help me trace a broken package problem?
[10:40] <feengur> i'm not too farmiliar with the ati dual monitor support through ubuntu, but i think you may have to write a script to make it work like that
[10:41] <kleftisx> what is the valid format for Ubuntu Themes on 6.10??
[10:41] <wims_> feengur, ok, right now i use two xorg.conf's and a script that renames them. It's not ideal, i'll play with it to see if i can fix it.  thanks anyway.
[10:41] <feengur> yeah
[10:41] <dromer> !vice
[10:42] <ubotu> vice: The Versatile Commodore Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.19-1 (edgy), package size 3231 kB, installed size 8832 kB
[10:42] <feengur> soz bud
[10:42] <feengur> i'll try to figure it out
[10:42] <matsyes> mneptok:from 6.06
[10:42] <[SilverFox] > i hate my life
[10:42] <foutrelis> [SilverFox] : ?
[10:42] <[SilverFox] > well all these things dont work hehe
[10:42] <EnsignRedshirt_> Well, here I am in xchat.
[10:43] <matsyes> tim__b:how do you exercise that option
[10:43] <Spastic_teapot> Does anyone know what qmake does?
[10:43] <EnsignRedshirt> ...and here I am in gaim.  Side by side comparison.
[10:43] <Spastic_teapot> I'm trying to install a program, and qmake does'nt seem to do anything.
[10:43] <matsyes> hi i'm sorry about the delay my connections pretty bad right now
[10:44] <foutrelis> !qmake
[10:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qmake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:44] <freaky_> Spastic_teapot: make for qt applications
[10:45] <timbobsteve> i cannot install libpng12-dev... it complains that libpng12-dev(1.2.8rel-5.1ubuntu0.1) is installed.... what do I do?
[10:45] <EnsignRedshirt> EnsignRedshirt_: Testing...
[10:45] <Spastic_teapot> Huh?
[10:45] <EnsignRedshirt> EnsignRedshirt_: One more test, and I'll stop...
[10:46] <kleftisx> where is the directory of Themes????
[10:47] <EnsignRedshirt> Now, besides the neat little 'tink' that xchat makes when my nick is used, what can I do with xchat that I can't do with gaim?
[10:47] <feengur> wims
[10:47] <wims> yeap
[10:47] <feengur> i think i may have found something that will help
[10:47] <wims> yeah?
[10:47] <feengur> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=245250&highlight=ATI+Dual+Monitors
[10:47] <oFF-beAt> EnsignRedshirt, u can script it.. very flexible.. lots of plugins
[10:47] <wims> cheers, i'll check it out :)
[10:47] <spasticteapot> Stupid wifi...
[10:48] <spasticteapot> Why am I constantly losing my connection?
[10:48] <spasticteapot> Regardless..where do I get qmake?
[10:48] <feengur> only problem seems to be that it turns your monitor off while ingame
[10:48] <feengur> or just blanks it
[10:48] <EnsignRedshirt> oFF-beAt: Scripting is cool, but I don't see myself hacking xchat scripts.
[10:48] <wims> feengur,  i guess i cant have it all :D
[10:48] <feengur> lol
[10:49] <spasticteapot> Stupid enigmatic QT....
[10:49] <feengur> kk, it's bedtime :P
[10:49] <feengur> gnite
[10:50] <spasticteapot> Well, I'm installing anything possibly related to QT.
[10:50] <spasticteapot> Lets' hope that one of the files i'm installing off the repository will work.
[10:51] <i687> Hello all
[10:52] <i687> I was wondering, would u guys recommend me to go with the server edition of ubuntu 6.0 TLS or the edgy version?
[10:53] <freaky_> i687: depends on what u use it for i guess... on servers i'd go with the TLS cuz it will have longer support
[10:53] <i687> oh that means... that you get udpates and stuff like that?
[10:54] <EnsignRedshirt_> I lied... one more test
[10:56] <[ubuntu] biz__> I am wondering Where is Vim(or gVim)-plugin..
[10:56] <freaky_> i687: yea security updates n such
[10:56] <[ubuntu] biz__> I am wondering Where is Vim(or gVim)-plugin folder..
[10:56] <EnsignRedshirt_> Ah, I found the option in gaim for playing a sound when my nick is used.
[10:56] <i687> well... then what I am wondering, is I still get security updates with edgy version, right?
[10:57] <i687> or will the security updates fo edgy stop when the new ubuntu version is released?
[10:57] <EnsignRedshirt> i687: Security updates will continue
[10:58] <[SilverFox] > i guess i cant get wireless
[10:58] <EnsignRedshirt> i687: I forgot for how long, but it is definitely past the next release.
[10:58] <oFF-beAt> EnsignRedshirt, i hate when irc/im plays sounds.. interrupts my music
[10:59] <EnsignRedshirt> oFF-beAt: Wow, both gaim and xchat sounded off on that one :)
[11:00] <[ubuntu] biz__> anyone help...where is my vim(gvim) plugin folder?
[11:00] <matsyes> tim__b: hi i got disconnected ... u were saying
[11:00] <tim__b> pasted you some text in query, haven't you got it?
[11:02] <CorpseFeeder> this is unbelievable. just spent all day trying to make this printer share with the XP machine, and that succeeded, then I found the Macs can no longer access it. I went back to the XP machine and now it can't access the printer again aaaargh!! The tick has vanished from Share Printers in Global Settings and I cannot get the tick to stay.
[11:02] <CorpseFeeder> i give up.
[11:03] <redwyrm> CorpseFeeder, go smoke some cannabis
[11:03] <CorpseFeeder> ok
[11:03] <redwyrm> :)
[11:03] <EnsignRedshirt> apt-get install wacky-weed
[11:04] <nukeDev> lol
[11:04] <nukeDev> crack heads
[11:05] <nukeDev> i have chaneged the X11 config to have a higher screen resolution but it still aint in the screen resolution menu
[11:05] <Terminus-> CorpseFeeder: did you share it through samba or CUPS? i generally get better printer sharing by going through cups.
[11:06] <nukeDev> any ideas?
[11:06] <CorpseFeeder> terminus: cups
[11:06] <nukeDev> !resolution
[11:06] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:06] <bostik> hi all
[11:06] <bostik> only a question on edgy
[11:06] <[ubuntu] biz__> !gvim
[11:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gvim - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:07] <Terminus-> CorpseFeeder: so you when you add printers to winxp, the address is something like http://<IP_ADDRESS>:631/printers/My_Printer?
[11:07] <bostik> when i try to install via livecd
[11:07] <[ubuntu] biz__> !vim
[11:07] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[11:07] <bostik> it reads apt sources ??
[11:07] <mneptok> nukeDev: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:07] <mneptok> bostik: yes, so?
[11:07] <bostik> the question is if i change my apt and i put an online source does it install from network ??
[11:08] <Cold_FiRe> ok well i figured out some stuff
[11:08] <Cold_FiRe> probly the modem is registering me as a guest
[11:08] <CorpseFeeder> terminus: i had all the Macs on the network printing to the printer through cups sharing, but the one XP machine on the network refused to work. I finally got it working by spending nearly the whole day in here, only to then find the Macs no longer worked with it. :(
[11:09] <Cold_FiRe> i can connect but then it says forbiden
[11:09] <Cold_FiRe> read this
[11:09] <Cold_FiRe> cant*
[11:09] <Cold_FiRe> cant connect*
[11:09] <CorpseFeeder> and now the XP machine don't want to work either because the "share printers" thing in global settings won't stay ticked
[11:11] <Cold_FiRe> i can ping google
[11:11] <wims> then you're connected
[11:11] <Terminus-> CorpseFeeder: hmmm... weird. anyway, you could just configure both CUPS and samba and use whichever works. :)
[11:11] <Cold_FiRe> i can go on it (very slowly)
[11:11] <wims> Cold_FiRe,  maybe it's a DNS problem ?
[11:11] <wims> ohh
[11:11] <Cold_FiRe> i cant ping anything else
[11:11] <wims> then it's not a dns problem, wouldnt be if you where able to ping google though
[11:11] <Cold_FiRe> and when i go on firefox i can go to google
[11:12] <Cold_FiRe> but for a second
[11:12] <Cold_FiRe> then it says its forbiden and permission denied
[11:12] <wims> Cold_FiRe,  are you a long distance from your router ?
[11:12] <Cold_FiRe> no
[11:12] <Cold_FiRe> it has 80% connection most of the time
[11:13] <Cold_FiRe> oh and gnome network manager thing doesnt work anymore... i cant figure out why, it wont start at all
[11:13] <Cold_FiRe> i went to the autorun folder in the filesystem and opened the network manager and nothing came up, the first time i used it a lil icon apeard
[11:14] <wims> Cold_FiRe,  try to type this in your console : sudo iwconfig eth0 rate 11M auto
[11:14] <Cold_FiRe> ok
[11:14] <wims> change eth0 to whats your network card
[11:14] <Cold_FiRe> but i think its just registered as a guest on the router
[11:14] <Cold_FiRe> ok
[11:15] <wims> then you wouldnt be able to ping google
[11:15] <Cold_FiRe> hmmmm
[11:15] <Cold_FiRe> ok well if i want to use a network manager, anyone know one thats in deb format (i figured out i cant use rpm)
[11:16] <Cold_FiRe> i tried instaling VMware its in rpm format and it didnt work
[11:16] <wims> Cold_FiRe,  there's an application that's allready installed that works OK
[11:16] <wims> System->administration->networking
[11:16] <Terminus-> Cold_FiRe: use alien to convert the rpm to deb. make sure you use the run scripts option.
[11:16] <Cold_FiRe> so anyone know a network manager? in deb format
[11:16] <nixen9> anyone running a Hercules Digifire/Fortissimo II without any (volume) problem here ?
[11:17] <Cold_FiRe> !alien
[11:17] <oFFbeAt> Cold_FiRe, u gotta make .deb files with alien from .rpm.. if u want to install .rpm files
[11:17] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[11:17] <Cold_FiRe> but its quite dangerous???
[11:17] <wikiwurm> hi all. first time to be here.
[11:17] <heatxsink_> hello alll i'm running edgy, and I"m having a problem with loading nvidia kernel drivers anyone else have this problem?
[11:17] <wikiwurm> can somebody tell me how to open a port in ubuntu server 6.0.6
[11:18] <Cold_FiRe> wims: thats good but is there anything else
[11:18] <someothernick> !nvidia
[11:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:18] <Terminus-> Cold_FiRe: worked well enough with vmware for me. if you don't trust it, don't use it. =P
[11:18] <wims> Cold_FiRe,  dunno, i usually just use the command line
[11:18] <Terminus-> Cold_FiRe: there's always the tarball...
[11:18] <Cold_FiRe> lol ok sounds cool
[11:19] <Cold_FiRe> idk how to use tar files so im not going there unless i really know what im doing
[11:19] <kleftisx> hello how i can read the Windows partittion from Ubuntu????
[11:20] <Cold_FiRe> max:opps
[11:20] <Cold_FiRe> !tar
[11:20] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[11:20] <mneptok> wikiwurm: what are you trying to do?
[11:20] <oFFbeAt> Cold_FiRe, tar zxvf file.tar        n cd to dir/   usually u get a readme file on how install
[11:20] <wikiwurm> i want to configure nagios and omniback. so these other servers needs some open ports
[11:21] <mneptok> wikiwurm: Ubuntu has no blocked ports by default
[11:21] <Cold_FiRe> oFFbeAt: ??? what
[11:22] <oFFbeAt> Cold_FiRe, heh sorry read that link bot jus gave u.. it explains more clearly
[11:22] <kleftisx> hello how i can read the Windows partittion from Ubuntu????
[11:22] <mneptok> !ntfs > kleftisx
[11:22] <fotoflo_> i am setting up proftpd and i need to specify a group, group "nobody" is no good... whats a good group?
[11:22] <sentinelxx> !ntfs
[11:22] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:22] <mneptok> fotoflo_: ftpd
[11:23] <wims> my win partitions are automatically detected on install though
[11:23] <wikiwurm> mneptok ubuntu lts 6.0.6 is blocking nearly all ports
[11:23] <Vich|Away> !bot abuse | hey everyone
[11:23] <ubotu> hey everyone: Please don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot
[11:23] <wims> have been a while
[11:23] <oFFbeAt> Cold_FiRe, installin stuff from tar takes 4 steps usually.. extract, /.configure, make, make install
[11:23] <Vich|Away> lol
[11:23] <wims> since hoary (?)
[11:23] <mneptok> wikiwurm: Ubuntu has no blocked ports by default
[11:23] <fotoflo_> mneptok, and the user? ftp?
[11:23] <fotoflo_> or both ftpd?
[11:23] <Cold_FiRe> ok
[11:23] <Cold_FiRe> how
[11:23] <vandenoever> hi guys, is this the right place to ask something about installing ubuntu-server with a special driver?
[11:23] <wikiwurm> http://www.ubuntu.com/server
[11:23] <mneptok> fotoflo_: who does proftpd run as?
[11:23] <Cold_FiRe> can u tell me the steps?
[11:23] <vandenoever> for dapper
[11:23] <Cold_FiRe> or tell me sumwhere i can get them
[11:23] <Flannel> !compile | Cold_FiRe
[11:23] <ubotu> Cold_FiRe: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:24] <fotoflo_> mneptok, root
[11:24] <Cold_FiRe> thanx
[11:24] <mneptok> wikiwurm: Ubuntu has no blocked ports by default. i promise you.
[11:24] <fotoflo_> is that a bad call?
[11:24] <mneptok> fotoflo_: uhhh. really bad idea.
[11:24] <wikiwurm> mneptok. sure? you have read the page http://www.ubuntu.com/server. i mean the server edition
[11:24] <Flannel> Cold_FiRe: however, you're doing an awful lot of compiling, Have you searched in the repositories?
[11:24] <Cold_FiRe> wait.... it says 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' doesnt that line need internet
[11:24] <oFFbeAt> Cold_FiRe, read that link ot gave u abt .tar .gz stuff.. n after exracting ur tar ball.. change the directry to the dir, that just got extracted,, inside u'll find readme, install notes
[11:24] <mneptok> wikiwurm: i am 100% sure.
[11:24] <fotoflo_> mneptok,  so i can make a "ftpd" user, and an ftpd group, right?
[11:24] <sentinelxx> Is it possible to have more than 1 NTFS drive mounted at any given time?
[11:24] <fotoflo_> and then it should work?
[11:25] <Terminus-> sentinelxx: yes.
[11:25] <wikiwurm> The Ubuntu Server has no open ports after the installation and contains only the essential software needed to build a secure server.
[11:25] <Flannel> wikiwurm: server edition is no different than desktop edition, well, special kernel, other than that, it's just default packages
[11:25] <incorrect> question,  what is 'bigiorn' server kernel?
[11:25] <vandenoever> wikiwurm: yes, it does not even have ssh
[11:25] <Flannel> wikiwurm: no open ports doesn't mean any blocked ports--just no listening services
[11:25] <Terminus-> wikiwurm: it has no open ports by default because nothing is running on it. iptables does not block anything by default.
[11:25] <oFFbeAt> Cold_FiRe, it does if u have repositories set to internet repos.. if u have sources on cd/dvd or somehere on a local machine.. u can install it offline too
[11:25] <ademan> i'm kinda interested in getting a USB tv tuner, which ones if any work with ubuntu/linux?  Is there a compatibility list somewhere?
[11:25] <Terminus-> bah... Flannel beat me to it. i hate qwerty keyboards.
[11:25] <wikiwurm> okay, maybe no listening services.  sorry, but im a linux newbe ;-)
[11:26] <nixen9> anyone running a Hercules Digifire/Fortissimo II without any (volume) problem here ? the module is cs46xx and it's working but the volume is way too low
[11:26] <mneptok> wikiwurm: Ubuntu has no daemons pre-installed that would answer on a port, but the ports *are not blocked*
[11:26] <lesshaste> does anyone know how to make .rec files of the sort needed by pvrs for example?
[11:26] <Cold_FiRe> ok where can i get it.. ive got 6.10 ubuntu so is it preinstalled?
[11:26] <Cold_FiRe> or on the cd
[11:26] <Vich|Away> ubotu, you're my only friend
[11:26] <wikiwurm> okay, than how i have to configure it, that a nagios and a backupserver get access to my ubuntu box?
[11:27] <Vich|Away> !friend | Vich
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about friend - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <Vich|Away> NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[11:27] <Vich|Away> you have betrayed me for the last time
[11:27] <mneptok> wikiwurm: what does Nagios use to query remate hosts?
[11:27] <Vich|Away> remate hosts
[11:27] <Cold_FiRe> lol VIch
[11:27] <Vich|Away> hmm
[11:27] <Vich|Away> are you sure they mated in the first place?
[11:27] <Cold_FiRe> lol
[11:27] <oFFbeAt> lol
[11:28] <Vich|Away> and had baby subnets
[11:28] <Cold_FiRe> lol
[11:28] <wikiwurm> i do not have the documentation with me, because i have to use the visitors office in our company to get access to this chat ;-)
[11:28] <oFFbeAt> Vich|Away, u cud help him instead of makin fun
[11:28] <wikiwurm> nagios will check, if the server is up and running, if the mysql db is up and running. i think this is the most important thing
[11:29] <Vich|Away> true
[11:29] <fotoflo_> mneptok, so i should adduser ftp -s /dev/null and addgroup ftpd?
[11:29] <Vich|Away> but I think at this hour, I'm better at making fun
[11:29] <mneptok> wikiwurm: well, the port is not blocked. you just need to install whatever Nagios needs to query it remotely
[11:29] <wikiwurm> and also apache2
[11:29] <fotoflo_> mneptok, what is a GID?
[11:29] <Vich|Away> I should be doing it elsewhere
[11:29] <Cold_FiRe> where can i download alien?
[11:29] <wims> anybody know how i can move whats displayed on my monitor to the left / right? I mean the entire desktop, not just a window.
[11:29] <Vich|Away> but needless to say, I get banished from many channels
[11:29] <mneptok> fotoflo_: Group ID
[11:29] <Vich|Away> ;p
[11:29] <oFFbeAt> Cold_FiRe, sudo apt-get install alien
[11:30] <fotoflo_> mneptok, yah, but is it useful?
[11:30] <Cold_FiRe> damn
[11:30] <wikiwurm> hmm, apache2, mysql, etc is installed and my webserver is running, but i get no acces with nagios
[11:30] <mneptok> Vich|Away: history is about to repeat if you don't stop the offtopic chatter in here ;)
[11:31] <mneptok> fotoflo_: are you sure you need FTP? you need to grant access to the machine to people without accounts?
[11:31] <fotoflo_> mneptok, yeah
[11:31] <fotoflo_> no
[11:31] <fotoflo_> i want only to grant access to people with accounts
[11:31] <mneptok> then do NOT use FTP
[11:31] <fotoflo_> ill turn off anon ftp
[11:32] <mneptok> no, do not use it *at all*
[11:32] <fotoflo_> dosnt matter really, im not going to port-forward the ftp port
[11:32] <Vich|Away> you mis understood me mneptok, my words were the proposol for a free novel that I plan to distribute via apt for all ubuntu users about the irc community and their response to random and spontaneous stimuli
[11:32] <fotoflo_> mneptok: why not? use samba?
[11:32] <mneptok> fotoflo_: SFTP
[11:32] <Vich|Away> >.>
[11:32] <Flannel> Vich|Away: that's nice.  Take your book to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:32] <mneptok> fotoflo_: sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[11:32] <wikiwurm> mneptok to you have an idea what i have to configure?
[11:33] <Vich|Away> I DID FLANNEL
[11:33] <willuminate> Can anyone help me with my wireless? I have everything set up & working, but everytime I restart, my comp won't connect because it tries to use eth0 to connect, whilst I need it to use ath0 by default. I had to ifdown my eth0 every single time and ifdown-ifup my ath0 again to connect.
[11:34] <Cold_FiRe> !wireless
[11:34] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:34] <fotoflo_> mneptok: why?
[11:34] <mneptok> fotoflo_: FTP is insecure
[11:34] <fotoflo_> if port21 isnt forwarded, there should be no problem though, right?
[11:35] <Flannel> fotoflo_: if you're using it internally, on your LAN, then yeah, assuming you trust your LAN, you're fine
[11:36] <AnAnt> does Ubuntu support WPA ?
[11:36] <mneptok> fotoflo_: why would you use an insecure, unencrypted protocol that is difficult to configure rather than a safe, encrypted protocol that is *dead easy*?
[11:36] <mneptok> AnAnt: of course.
[11:36] <Jowi> AnAnt, it is up to the driver of the wifi card
[11:36] <redwyrm> backwards compatibility?
[11:37] <mneptok> redwyrm: ?
[11:37] <redwyrm> erm, legacy support
[11:37] <AnAnt> Jowi: it is an Intel Pro 2200
[11:37] <fotoflo_> mneptok, well i just got proftpd setup with gproftpd
[11:37] <AnAnt> Jowi: so how should driver be configured then ?
[11:37] <Jowi> AnAnt, I have no idea which driver support it and which ones don't.
[11:38] <mneptok> fotoflo_: have fun. next time i'm on your network i'll be doing some packet sniffing, for sure. ;)
[11:38] <AnAnt> oh
[11:38] <fotoflo_> heh ok
[11:38] <mneptok> fotoflo_: using WEP for wireless?
[11:38] <fotoflo_> ofcourse
[11:38] <Jowi> AnAnt, maybe this can help you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo?highlight=%28WifiDocs%29%7C%28ManufacturerModel%29%7C%28AND%29
[11:38] <mneptok> fotoflo_: then your network is not at *all* secure.
[11:39] <AnAnt> Jowi: thanks
[11:39] <Cold_FiRe> HOW THE HELL DO I USE WIRELESS TOOOOOOOOLLLLLSSSS
[11:39] <Cold_FiRe> http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Tools.html
[11:39] <Jowi> AnAnt, maybe this can help you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[11:39] <Cold_FiRe> lol
[11:39] <Cold_FiRe> arggggggg
[11:39] <fotoflo_> hmm
[11:39] <uiiu> mneptok: ssh is for shell or for ftp?
[11:39] <fotoflo_> i think, given my location, im pretty secure
[11:39] <mneptok> fotoflo_: WEP keys can be cracked with eay tools in less than 5 minutes. and then that cracker can start reading all your cleartext FTP passwords.
[11:40] <fotoflo_> right, but i live in china and no one around me speaks english
[11:40] <fotoflo_> anyway, how do i setup openssh, if its so easy
[11:40] <mneptok> uiiu: SSH can be used both as a secure shell and an underlying transport protocol for file services
[11:40] <uiiu> mnteptok: are you suggesting an alternative to ftp or to wep?
[11:40] <mneptok> fotoflo_: sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[11:40] <uiiu> (or both)
[11:41] <Cold_FiRe> does anyone know if i need to install wireless tools from http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Tools.html on a 6.10 ubuntu OS
[11:41] <mneptok> fotoflo_: after that, any user with an account can login with an SFTP client with *zero extra configuration*
[11:41] <erUSUL> uiiu: it is "the" alternative to ftp and telnet for sure. wep operates at a different level of the tcp/ip stack
[11:42] <mneptok> uiiu: SFTP replaces FTP. WPA(2) replaces WEP.
[11:42] <uiiu> erusul & mneptok: thanks! <enlightenment>
[11:42] <christopherl> why can I not login as root in login window?
[11:42] <selecta_g> hello room; can someone offer help using the newsreader in Kontact? I copied the server settings from thunderbird, but have failed to download any newsgroups
[11:42] <uiiu> mneptok: what are the ssh clietns like? are they for all major platforms?
[11:42] <DarthLappy> !root | christopherl
[11:42] <ubotu> christopherl: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:42] <mneptok> christopherl: Ubuntu does not use a root lgin. use sudo.
[11:43] <AnAnt> is there something wrong with the indexer in the eclipse provided by Ubuntu repos ?
[11:43] <Cold_FiRe> ??
[11:43] <christopherl> ok thanks
[11:43] <wims> christopherl,  you can if you assign a password
[11:43] <fotoflo_> on port 22?
[11:43] <wims> like this : sudo passwd
[11:43] <oFFbeAt> christofkr, root login by default is disabled i think.. but u can enable it.. sudo is a more safe aproach
[11:43] <mneptok> uiiu: there are excellent GUI SFTP clients for Windows, OSX and Linux. free, too.
[11:43] <christopherl> ok
[11:43] <fotoflo_> mneptok,  on port 22?
[11:43] <Cold_FiRe> please i just want to connect my computer to the internet so i can stop booting out of windows and into linux then back to windows
[11:43] <mneptok> fotoflo_: yup
[11:43] <uiiu> opensource?
[11:44] <mneptok> fotoflo_: gftp is your GUI client on Linux. Filezilla on Windows. Cyberduck on OSX. all are free.
[11:44] <Cold_FiRe> ???????????????????????
[11:44] <erUSUL> Cold_FiRe: no you do not need to install those they come installed by sefault in any ubuntu install afaik
[11:44] <christopherl> my login window doesn't use the theme that I selected, why?
[11:45] <Cold_FiRe> thank yo
[11:45] <erUSUL> !info wireless-tools
[11:45] <ubotu> wireless-tools: Tools for manipulating Linux Wireless Extensions. In component main, is important. Version 28-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 104 kB, installed size 336 kB
[11:45] <uiiu> mneptok: nice :). i do a little networking for small biz on the side, i'll have to start looking into sftp...thank you.
[11:45] <fotoflo_> mneptok, cool, im using coreftp, on windows and gftp onlinux
[11:45] <fotoflo_> mneptok,  it work, sweet, thanks
[11:45] <mneptok> fotoflo_: whatever works :)
[11:45] <fotoflo_> ill uninstall proftpd
[11:45] <fotoflo_> thanks alot
[11:46] <mneptok> fotoflo_: SFTP is *way* easier to set up, plus it' ~09843751986489 times more secure ;)
[11:46] <fotoflo_> heh
[11:46] <fotoflo_> yeah, thanks
[11:46] <Cold_FiRe> another question, it says wlan0 is the wireless mines eth1
[11:47] <AmbientMstr> Oh wow
[11:47] <mneptok> fotoflo_: so, you can claim to have increased security, when all you really did was say "fsck ftp. i'm lazy." win-win. ;)
[11:47] <AmbientMstr> ALRIGHT, here's a wager for you.
[11:47] <fotoflo_> yeah, i still need to setup samba though...
[11:47] <AmbientMstr> Convince me why I should switch to Linux
[11:47] <mneptok> !offtopic | AmbientMstr
[11:47] <ubotu> AmbientMstr: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:48] <AmbientMstr> Hmm, wish they had told me that before.
[11:48] <AmbientMstr> Sorry
[11:48] <uiiu> is any one familiar with nmap?
[11:48] <fotoflo_> mneptok, is there an easy way to setup samba?
[11:48] <gourdin> is kde 3.5.6 available for edgy ?
[11:49] <Cold_FiRe> ok time to boot into linux again
[11:49] <Cold_FiRe> bye
[11:49] <KampfCaspar> hi all!
[11:49] <mneptok> fotoflo_: been editing smb.conf by hand for so long i don't know :/
[11:50] <fotoflo_> I had it working but for somereason it stopped and then it was impossible to get workign again. im going to reinstall and try again
[11:50] <Terminus-> fotoflo_: i've never seen a GUI tool for samba that works properly. i'm in the same boat as mneptok, just edit it by hand.
[11:50] <uiiu> i'm scanning my workstation with nmap. no - i'm not doing anything nefarious :) i wouldn't be asking this if i was. but it's taking a VERY long time to scan all the ports, more than a DAY, any one know why?
[11:50] <Terminus-> fotoflo_: besides, it has so many features that a GUI would probably never do it any justice.
[11:50] <fotoflo_> terminus: well on;ly if its a poor gui
[11:50] <fotoflo_> a good gui should give access to all the features
[11:51] <fb> hello, sorry I'm just doing a test
[11:51] <mneptok> fotoflo_: that GUI would then be 140MB and have 65,230 tabs :)
[11:51] <Terminus-> fotoflo_: maybe you can give SWAT a try. forgot how to access it though.
[11:51] <fotoflo_> theres samba and theres samba common...
[11:51] <fotoflo_> i tried it - it woudt work :(
[11:52] <mneptok> fotoflo_: samba-common is installed by default. "samba" is what you want
[11:53] <oFFbeAt> Terminus, i saw some easy way to setup samba via GUI in mandriva 2007.. wish i had same easy way in ubuntu too
[11:54] <fotoflo_> well now that i have sftp life is alot easier already
[11:54] <ecco> how do i mount a smb share in fstab with full read write privileges
[11:54] <chabito83> hello everyone... i'm new with ubuntu... i just wanna if there are different versions of ubuntu?  It works great.
[11:58] <uiiu> chabito83: it's personal choice. there's live CD's you can get to try them out...
[11:58] <fotoflo_> KampfCaspar, ill see if its on bittorrent :-)
[11:58] <looktj> Am i doing something wrong with grub?
[11:59] <chabito83> and what is enlightenment 17? I'm really sorry... i'm new with this one. Is it some kind of a theme for linux? Is it part of kubuntu or a seperate download?
[11:59] <KampfCaspar> fotoflo_: Does DAV, common FTP etc. as well.
[11:59] <looktj> grub> setup (hd0)
[11:59] <looktj> Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[11:59] <wims> chabito83, get ubuntu (with gnome), its pretty sleek
[11:59] <looktj> that's after i do root (hd0)
[11:59] <fotoflo_> is it big?
[11:59] <KampfCaspar> big?
[11:59] <fotoflo_> can you stream video off it like you can a samba drive?
[11:59] <uiiu> enlightenment? isn't that the gui that comes with debian?
[11:59] <fotoflo_> <20MB?
[11:59] <uiiu> debain's live cd...
[11:59] <looktj> !grub wiki
[11:59] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-11ubuntu14 (edgy), package size 359 kB, installed size 764 kB
[12:00] <KampfCaspar> fotoflo_: No, you cannot stream. It has to cache the file locally.
[12:00] <chabito83> wims > I already downloaded and tried ubuntu.... it looks like window.... not much flair :)
[12:00] <lesshaste> does anyone know how to make .rec files of the sort needed by pvrs for example?
[12:00] <looktj> that's wasn't helpful
[12:00] <fotoflo_> oh, thats a problem
[12:00] <wims> chabito83, kubuntu looks more like windows
[12:00] <looktj> i need to reinstall grub
[12:00] <fotoflo_> thansk though
[12:00] <wims> chabito83,  if you want it to look really good you should get AIGLX/Beryl
[12:00] <looktj> becuase of windows mbr overwrite
[12:00] <mneptok> fotoflo_: SFTP is good for file transfers. it os not good as a network file system.
[12:00] <fotoflo_> i like samba cause I can watch videos or stream mp3s from my server
[12:00] <looktj> what is the ubuntu grub wiki link?
[12:00] <chabito83> ic... i want it to be goodlooking and userfriendly...  :)
[12:01] <looktj> :|
[12:01] <KampfCaspar> fotoflo_: There's a big difference between smb and sftp ;)
[12:01] <looktj> am i being ignored here?
[12:01] <mneptok> chabito83: Beryl and other compositors are NOT user friendly.
[12:01] <uiiu> chab: i like KDE personally - and 'userfriendly' is a term that doesn't always go along with ANY linux distribution
[12:01] <chabito83> i guess i'll stick with ubuntu right?
[12:01] <fotoflo_> KampfCaspar, k
[12:01] <fotoflo_> im gonna setup smb then
[12:01] <chabito83> thanks a lot for the info
[12:01] <Terminus-> !grub | looktj
[12:01] <ubotu> looktj: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager.  It looks like MAC OS :)
[12:04] <looktj> grub reinstalled...hopefully the windows example is in the grub menu.lst
[12:04] <uiiu> chab: wow - sorry to hear that.
[12:04] <looktj> brb reboot
[12:04] <fotoflo_> KampfCaspar, most of the network services i need, i only need on my internal network
[12:04] <KampfCaspar> fotoflo_: And in plain *nix environments, I prefer nfs
[12:04] <chabito83> wims.... what should i do? :-?
[12:04] <uiiu> chab: yeah, i'm checking out reviews right now, looks good. but it doesn't sound like all the kinks are worked out...
[12:04] <wims> !kubuntu
[12:04] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[12:04] <wims> hmmm
[12:04] <fotoflo_> KampfCaspar, i have to share with PC
[12:04] <wims> chabito83,  cant remember the command
[12:04] <chabito83> tnx tnx :)
[12:04] <wims> chabito83, i'll find out in two seconds
[12:05] <wims> chabito83,  type this in your console :
[12:05] <wims> http://youtube.com/watch?v=c1lFYT_cLm8
[12:05] <wims> oioops
[12:05] <wims> wrong link
[12:05] <mneptok> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[12:05] <wims> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:05] <willys_fueguino> good morning everyone....
[12:05] <chabito83> you tube :)
[12:05] <wims> there you go :)
[12:06] <chabito83> wait... im using XP OS right now...  i just tried the CD and booted from it
[12:06] <chabito83> where do i exactly typed it?
[12:07] <chabito83> I feel like a 50 yr old trying out his first computer
[12:07] <chabito83> :))
[12:07] <mneptok> chabito83: you type that once you install
[12:07] <wims> chabito83,  you have to install it to your harddisk before you can do it. You cannot do it from the live cd
[12:07] <mneptok> not from the CD
[12:07] <mneptok> chabito83: and FYI, i'm 41. :P
[12:07] <willys_fueguino> XDDDDD
[12:08] <chabito83> i
[12:08] <uiiu> mneptok: LOL. foot in mouth, huh ;)
[12:08] <chabito83> i'll be back... ill try to install and dual boot :)
[12:08] <mneptok> uiiu: especially when aosking the "old man" for help, eh? ;)
[12:08] <chabito83> i hope it won't hurt....
[12:08] <wims> chabito83,  make sure you understand the partitioning before you do it
[12:08] <wims> so you dont erase your entire hard disk
[12:09] <chabito83> terminus... oo
[12:09] <chabito83> uhmmmmm
[12:09] <uiiu> mneptok: hey - with age...comes wisdom ;)
[12:09] <Terminus-> chabito83: local guys are in #ubuntu-ph =)
[12:09] <chabito83> i'm beginning to feel like a computer illiterate
[12:09] <uiiu> chab: welcome to the world of linux
[12:09] <chabito83> terminus... tnx
[12:09] <Czarek> hi. how to delete the files from trash bin (they are named $%^% etc.). they were made by fsck
[12:09] <Terminus-> chabito83: we don't do support much though. mostly offtopic. haha
[12:09] <uiiu> ;)
[12:09] <mneptok> uiiu: and incontinence. life does not open a door without closing a window. ;)
[12:10] <sapage> !ssh
[12:10] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[12:10] <chabito83> uiiu.... and it's a little frustrating but I feel the need for Linux... Microsoft software is too costly....
[12:10] <uiiu> LOL
[12:10] <LookTj> is hda2 (hd0,1)?
[12:10] <mneptok> Czarek: rm -rf ~/.Trash/*
[12:11] <uiiu> chab: i totally understand :)....i think it's great that your using unix.
[12:11] <uiiu> chab: i just meant that we all experience a feeling of "wtf?!" when using linux sometimes :)
[12:12] <wims> lol
[12:12] <wims> me too
[12:12] <willys_fueguino> I agree...
[12:12] <wims> but i have to use it all the time because of some apps
[12:12] <willys_fueguino> :-
[12:12] <chabito83> :) i'm now trying to google for dual boot... I'll be using linux for my next computer system
[12:12] <uiiu> mneptok: that's the ONLY thing i feel when using windows ;)
[12:12] <mneptok> (which i have avoided doing for almost 9 years)
[12:12] <uiiu> mneptok: <impressed>
[12:12] <chabito83> so right now... i need to familiarize myself with ubuntu :)
[12:13] <mena> Is there is any one have alot of experince in firestarter
[12:13] <uiiu> chab: there's another live cd version, "Knoppix" that's pretty good too. it's just another great way to try out linux
[12:13] <Czarek> mneptok: doesn`t work for me
[12:13] <LookTj> what  exactly is hda2 in (hd0) format?
[12:13] <uiiu> chab: you just need alot of RAM, around 512mb to try the live cd's.
[12:13] <mneptok> Czarek: pastebin the results of "ls -Rla ~/.Trash" please?
[12:13] <uiiu> (you can do it with less, but it's sloow)
[12:14] <willys_fueguino> LookTj: hd0,2 ??
[12:14] <mneptok> LookTj: depends. it's not a constant.
[12:14] <LookTj> hda1 is hda0,0
[12:14] <chabito83> question: for example... i downloaded ubuntu... and wanted to try other bistros? would it mess up my current OS? there seems to be a LOT of distros
[12:14] <LookTj> (hd0,0)
[12:14] <mneptok> LookTj: not always
[12:14] <LookTj> i meant on mine
[12:14] <LookTj> ;)
[12:14] <wims> chabito83,  not if you install it on a separate partition
[12:14] <chabito83> i have 1.5 gb for my RAM :) i guess it's not a problem
[12:15] <uiiu> chab: nope, definately not :)
[12:15] <LookTj> would it be (hd0,1)
[12:15] <chabito83> if only i can properly dual boot
[12:15] <uiiu> hey - does anyone know how to switch between desktops, but with a keyboard shortcut
[12:15] <mneptok> LookTj: well, as i said, it's not constant. so we can't tell you what yours is. ;)
[12:15] <uiiu> chab - what's the problem, when you load the cd, it should automatically do that...
[12:15] <mneptok> uiiu: workspaces?
[12:15] <uiiu> ...ithink
[12:15] <eternalswd> uiiu, gnome or kde or etc?
[12:16] <uiiu> mneptok: uh - yeah, the bottom right.
[12:16] <uiiu> eternalswd: gnome
[12:16] <chabito83> uiiu..... what percent would be ideal?
[12:16] <mneptok> uiiu: ctl-alt <arrow>
[12:16] <chabito83> i encountered it when i tried to install... but I'm afraid to mess up my system
[12:16] <LookTj> Would you know what it would be on internel drive of a laptop(DELL)
[12:16] <uiiu> mneptok: PERFECT. been trying to figure that out for some time, trial-and-error with some /interesting/ results.
[12:16] <mneptok> LookTj: what are you trying to do?
[12:17] <uiiu> chab: that depends. how big is your hard drive and how much space do youneed for xp?
[12:17] <LookTj> add Windows Pro to grub
[12:17] <wolfwalker> Quick question from a newb: If I installed yahoo IM in Wine, would it be able to connect to the internet through the wine app layer?