[15:35] <EgyParadox> http://downloadsquad.switched.com/2011/01/09/ubuntu-11-04-officially-switches-default-media-player-to-banshee/
[17:20] <rooisto47> hi everyone


[00:34] <joshk> how does one set OVERRIDE_ALLOW_PRESEEDING?
[00:34] <joshk> can you just pass it on the kernel command line? will it get picked up?
[00:50] <joshk> never mind, it works on the kernel command-line
[11:22] <ogra> cjwatson, ev, partman and migration assistant both die on omap ubiquity http://pastebin.com/Q5qUwvB9 any ideas ?
[11:24] <cjwatson> Bus error?  Goodness knows
[11:24] <ogra> i was wondering about /target/var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[11:24] <ogra> thats something i can ignore ?
[11:24] <cjwatson> irrelevant
[11:24] <ogra> (it seems to try to access it before partman even started
[11:25] <ogra> ok
[11:25] <cjwatson> it's just stuff run on ubiquity exit that only works if the system actually managed to get installed
[11:25] <ogra> note that i only have 256M and use 50% compcache
[11:25] <ogra> but i dont see any OOM in dmesg or anywhere so i think it should be fine even with that value
[11:25] <cjwatson> probably irrelevant too.  bus error suggests a bug in some C program, or even miscompilation
[11:25] <ogra> gah
[11:26] <cjwatson> why would you suspect OOM?  Bus error doesn't mean that
[11:26] <ogra> because i get OOM if i run with the default of 25% compcache
[11:26] <cjwatson> it's a bad memory access of some kind
[11:26] <cjwatson> so first step is to find out what program is being killed with that signal
[11:26] <ogra> getting only ~300M
[11:26] <cjwatson> strace may help
[11:26] <cjwatson> follow the evidence, don't guess wildly :)
[11:27]  * ogra tries to ... i'm a bit desparate since even the kernel isnt 100% yet
[11:27] <ogra> so it can be anything really
[11:28] <cjwatson> SIGBUS could certainly easily be a kernel bug
[11:28] <ogra> [ 1094.317077] Unhandled fault: external abort on non-linefetch (0x1018) at 0x401f9000
[11:28] <ogra> [ 1094.317169] Process 5295(parted_server) has RLIMIT_CORE set to 0
[11:28] <ogra> [ 1094.317169] Aborting core
[11:28] <ogra> dmesg^^^
[11:29] <ogra> setting RTLIMIT_CORE to 0 is desired ?
[11:29] <cjwatson> ok, so then try attaching gdb to it before it SIGBUSses, and find out where it falls over
[11:29] <cjwatson> RLIMIT_CORE is 0 by default
[11:35] <ogra> seems the fix for bug 498525 is missing in the omap kernel
[11:35] <ogra> (omap is .33)
[11:50] <CIA-3> partman-auto: cjwatson * r312 ubuntu/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Don't offer resize_use_free on armel (LP: #550963).
[12:22] <ev> talking to dbus through fakeroot is proving to be quite the pain
[12:22] <ev> (KDE explodes if it can't talk to the session bus)
[12:42] <CIA-3> partman-auto: cjwatson * r313 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 89ubuntu5
[15:00] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3923 testing/tests/ (run run-frontend):
[15:00] <CIA-3> ubiquity: * Build osextras if necessary.
[15:00] <CIA-3> ubiquity: * Set SUDO_UID and SUDO_GID.
[15:00] <CIA-3> ubiquity: * Add a note on why the KDE and noninteractive tests are disabled.
[16:21] <cjwatson> ogra: are you going to implement these new omap installer bugs you filed?  I know I'm not going to have time
[16:21] <ogra> cjwatson, for flash-kernel ? sure
[16:21] <ogra> thats why i assigned them to me
[16:21] <ogra> i just want to give slangasek something
[16:22] <ogra> since they are new features
[16:22] <cjwatson> partman-uboot
[16:22] <cjwatson> bug 559301 is unassigned at the moment
[16:22] <ogra> NCommander was offering help here
[16:22] <ogra> and he created the package
[16:22] <cjwatson> I'll assign it to your team, and you can take it from there
[16:23] <ogra> so i assume we're fine here, i just dont want to assign it to hijm right now since i dont want to distract him from OO.o fixing
[16:23] <ogra> cjwatson, ubuntu-armel please
[16:23] <cjwatson> oh
[16:23]  * cjwatson quickly changes it
[16:23] <ogra> we try to keep canonical out of the bugs :)
[16:24] <cjwatson> well, I don't see why that's necessary, but OK
[16:24] <ogra> in case an enthusiastic community dev comes and wants to help :)
[16:24] <ogra> cjwatson, i guess persia could explain that to you :)
[16:25] <persia> If nothing else, the team has had significant historical involvement from InDT
[16:39] <dmarkey> cjwatson: did you make any block alignment improvments in 10.04?
[16:40] <cjwatson> in the partitioner, you mean?
[16:41] <dmarkey> yep
[16:41] <cjwatson> yes, significant
[16:42] <cjwatson> we try to apply optimal alignment by default now
[16:42] <dmarkey> great, did anyone do any benchmarks?
[16:42] <dmarkey> under kvm etc
[16:43] <cjwatson> no
[16:43] <cjwatson> correctness first :)
[16:43] <cjwatson> anyway, I wouldn't expect kvm to show much of a difference
[16:44] <cjwatson> the differences would be on real disks that care about alignment
[16:44] <dmarkey> great, i see
[17:33] <dmarkey> hmm.. i see the installer makes /boot xvda1 under xen, but sda5 normally(when using lvm)
[19:27] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r4062 ubiquity/ (157 files in 3 dirs): Update translations from Launchpad.
[19:29] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r4063 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[19:29] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: partman-auto 89ubuntu5,
[19:29] <CIA-3> ubiquity: tzsetup 1:0.26ubuntu7.
[19:45] <cjwatson> ev: that tzsetup change - how were you going to handle the fact that busybox's wget doesn't have --timeout?  I commented on this in bug 519756, which is the same bug
[19:48] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r4064 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.2.16
[21:53] <CIA-3> partman-base: cjwatson * r202 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog parted_server.c):
[21:53] <CIA-3> partman-base: Ignore free space smaller than the grain size of the partition creation
[21:53] <CIA-3> partman-base: constraint, rather than only free space smaller than a cylinder.


[10:14] <stickupkid> manadart, or achilleasa status update https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/12314
[10:40] <manadart> stickupkid: I am looking
[10:50] <manadart> stickupkid: Got a feature test failure there for jujucharms vs charmstore.
[10:50] <stickupkid> ooo
[10:50] <stickupkid> new commit, delete feature tests - lol
[10:53] <stickupkid> this is going to be fun in the future, removing the charmstore from the codebase
[10:53] <stickupkid> :|
[10:54] <stickupkid> manadart, updated the feature tests as well
[11:13] <manadart> stickupkid: I am getting charmstore, not charmhub for the second QA example...
[11:13] <stickupkid> ah, you need to export the feature flag
[11:13] <stickupkid> whoops
[11:13] <stickupkid> export JUJU_DEV_FEATURE_FLAGS=charm-hub
[12:35] <stickupkid> achilleasa, https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/12315
[13:00] <achilleasa> stickupkid: left a small comment on ^
[13:52] <manadart> stickupkid_, achilleasa: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/12316 can be reviewed, but I still need to contrive some of the QA.
[14:01] <stickupkid_> achilleasa, fixed
[15:42] <stickupkid_> achilleasa, 2.8 version of fix bundle diff https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/12317
[15:44] <achilleasa> stickupkid_: how does that change fix it?
[15:44] <achilleasa> isn't it simply changing the location for the download?
[15:44] <stickupkid_> achilleasa, yeah, but get bundle expects to create that folder as well, so you get "directory already exists"
[15:45] <stickupkid_> so we create a temp dir and then just namespace it
[15:45] <stickupkid_> life :'(
[15:45] <achilleasa> ah... got it
[15:46] <achilleasa> we should put a comment above that line :D
[15:46] <stickupkid_> probably
[15:46] <stickupkid_> "should"
[22:21] <BC64> Can someone with experience talk to me about Juju vs Rancher for Kubernetes deployment?


[00:00] <lunaphyte> the config for debconf is within the config mechanism debconf uses for everything, including itself
[00:00] <tarpman> one eats one's own dogfood, etc ;)
[00:00] <lunaphyte> like slapd's db section for cn=config within cn=config :P
[00:00] <lunaphyte> yeah
[00:00] <lunaphyte> what a great find, thanks
[00:00] <tarpman> :)
[00:01] <lunaphyte> now i want to know why i don't recall ubuntu asking me those two questions during install
[00:01] <lunaphyte> i guess i'll have to od a new install to know for sure.  it's been too long to recall with confidence if that's actually what happened, or if i am just dumb
[00:02] <tarpman> I don't think you'd be prompted for frontend or priority by default
[00:02] <lunaphyte> i wish it would.
[00:02] <lunaphyte> how would anyone ever know?
[00:03] <lunaphyte> outside of pure coincidence, like this
[00:03] <tarpman> no idea
[00:03] <tarpman> I learned about debconf when I needed preseeding
[00:04] <tarpman> I think that's probably how most people get exposed
[09:38] <frickler> jamespage: any chance to update ceph in xenial based on this: https://www.spinics.net/lists/ceph-devel/msg29225.html ? not completely official release, but IMHO much better than 10.0.2 and you won't want to release xenial with a development release of ceph anyway, or do you?
[10:47] <rbasak> stgraber: FYI, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2016-March/016329.html
[13:17] <sekapiet> hello
[13:17] <sekapiet> i'm looking for help with openstack autopilot
[13:28] <coreycb> beisner, when you get a moment can you promote the following packages to trusty-mitaka-proposed? http://paste.ubuntu.com/15407540/
[13:35] <Hanumaan> how to format multipath iSCSI drive? getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15407534/  if I try to format it and lsof shows this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15407542/ .. how to format the drive .. ?
[13:36] <patdk-wk> you said you are getting an error
[13:36] <patdk-wk> there is no error
[13:38] <sekapiet> is there a channel for ubuntu openstack autopilot ?
[13:38] <Hanumaan> patdk-wk,  sorry did not give the error .. this is the error  "/dev/sdb1 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!"
[13:39] <patdk-wk> why are you using sdb?
[13:40] <patdk-wk> you said it was multipathed
[13:40] <patdk-wk> if you want to use sdb, kill the multipath
[13:46] <Hanumaan> patdk-wk, you were spot on .. now is used multipath drive .. which is /dev/mapper/mpath0-part1 ..
[13:46] <patdk-wk> :)
[13:47] <Hanumaan> and it worked.. can you also let me know how to get my own alias working for multipath drive? it usually generates some random names .. and says alias already exists ..
[14:47] <devster31> hi, I'm wondering if anyone can help me with something, I can access a windows 10 share from osx using smb://ip-of-pc/name-of-folder, and the email-password as accounts, but smbclient refuses to let me access the same share on ubuntu
[14:47] <devster31> what could I be doing wrong?
[14:51] <kgirthofer> hey guys I installed ubuntu with lvm for the first time and I don't understand how to resize
[14:51] <kgirthofer> any help?
[14:52] <kgirthofer> vgdisplay lists the drive, it's sda2 and 5 respectively
[15:02] <coreycb> ddellav, re: barbican and use of python-ldap3
[15:03]  * ddellav nods
[15:03] <coreycb> It seems like ldap3 is the way to go in the future for python ldap clinet use since it supports python 3
[15:03] <coreycb> ddellav, the problem is there's a mix of openstack packages (and non-openstack packages) using python-ldap which is already in main
[15:03] <ddellav> so we DO in fact need an MIR for ldap3
[15:03] <ddellav> ?
[15:04] <coreycb> ddellav, well they'll want one ldap client in main so it'd be python-ldap or python-ldap3
[15:05] <coreycb> ddellav, I think at this late point in the cycle we should revert barbican to using python-ldap, and see about MIRing python-ldap3 earlier in the next cycle
[15:07] <ddellav> coreycb ok
[15:07] <coreycb> ddellav, the patch looks pretty trivial to revert it
[16:21] <stgraber> hallyn: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2016-March/016329.html
[16:41] <achiang> hi, using the ec2 ami locator service: https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ec2/
[16:41] <achiang> after reading docs, it's not clear to me if i can use an hvm:ebs-ssd on a t2.micro
[16:41] <achiang> does anyone know?
[16:42] <achiang> or am i forced to use the hvm:ebs instance type?
[16:43] <achiang> ah, ok. re-reading this page http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/RootDeviceStorage.html
[16:43] <achiang> seems like ebs-ssd is fine; the only thing that is incompatible would be the instance-store type
[17:09] <hallyn> stgraber: that sounds bogus:
[17:09] <hallyn>  It appears that the pam_systemd plugin is not present due to pam_cgfs.so being in the pam session plugin configuration in /etc/pam.d/common-session.
[17:10] <hallyn> ""
[17:13] <stgraber> hallyn: yeah, I wonder if libpam-systemd got removed from his system somehow
[17:18] <hallyn> i'm d/ling new desktop image to try in any case
[17:19] <hallyn> (unity won't show up in lightdm as an option for me - desktop team blacklisted me)
[17:24] <coreycb> hallyn, for that qemu patch you backported yesterday, can that be considered fixed for qemu-kvm as well?
[17:32] <hallyn> coreycb: qemu-kvm is in precise only....  was thinking i'd leave that open until the precise sru is done
[17:32] <hallyn> but either way
[17:32] <hallyn> i have it in my sru file so i won't forget it.  Really the "proper" but less helpful thing is to mark it invalid but confirmed for precise target
[17:33] <coreycb> hallyn, ok I saw it's been deprecated
[17:34] <coreycb> hallyn, thanks so n/a unless precise which it's currently not targeted to fix for as far as I can see
[17:34] <hallyn> pretty sure i'll sru it to prcise, just haven't set the targets
[17:34] <coreycb> hallyn, ok, thanks
[17:44] <hallyn> stgraber: just updated a unity vm, can't reproduce the inability to get admin rights
[17:45] <hallyn> lemme try removing the pam-systemd line
[17:45] <stgraber> hallyn: I know we briefly had a bad cgroup-lite which was causing libpam-systemd to be removed if the user didn't look closely at upgrade time, that may be what caused this for him
[17:46] <hallyn> oh wait, i was testing xenial, not trusty with ppas. sigh
[17:46] <hallyn> (trusty wouldn't have pam_systemdi guess)
[17:50] <stgraber> I thought it did
[18:27] <randymarsh9> hello
[18:27] <randymarsh9> what is the simplest way to transfer files to clean ubuntu installation
[18:27] <randymarsh9> install FTP?
[18:28] <Deeps> scp/sftp
[18:28] <randymarsh9> does scp come with ubuntu?
[18:29] <Deeps> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/TransferFiles
[18:29] <sarnold> yes, though you may need to install openssh-server on one of the machines
[18:32] <randymarsh9> ssh is already enabled
[18:32] <randymarsh9> i'll do the scp
[18:32] <randymarsh9> thank you both
[18:41] <randymarsh9> does ./tmp/ get cleared out every reboot?
[18:42] <sarnold> it depends on what your current working directory is :) /tmp gets cleared, yes, but others may not
[18:44] <randymarsh9> hm lets see
[19:33] <max3> how can i get an install of ubuntu-server that has nothing except what i need to run postgres?
[19:33] <max3> i tried the minimal install but it's still about a gig. how does ubuntu-mini-remix get it down to 200mb?
[19:33] <sarnold> max3: maybe start with the cloud images?
[19:34] <teward> also consider: the mini remix isn't an officially supported project ;)
[19:34] <teward> so it's not an Ubuntu official project
[19:34] <max3> sarnold, teward i understand that but i'm just wondering if anyone knew how it's accomplished
[19:35] <max3> sarnold, sorry these cloud images are what? already virtual appliances? ova is some sort of standardized vm right?
[19:35] <sarnold> max3: deborphan/orphaner scripts can help remove uneeded 'leaf' packages..
[19:37] <max3> sarnold, which of the cloud images should i download?
[19:37] <sdeziel> max3: when I need something minimal, I start with a debootstrap then add a kernel+grub. This takes around ~500MB
[19:37] <sarnold> max3: I think I'd start with disk1.img version
[19:38] <max3> sarnold, i'm planning on running this in virtualbox so it should be the ova file right?
[19:39] <sarnold> max3: ah, if vbox can do ova, yeah
[19:42] <max3> i wish i could get tiny core linux to work
[19:42] <max3> it even has a postgres package but i can't the database cluster up because of missing libraries
[19:58] <max3> sarnold, i don't think these cloud images can just run on virtualbox?
[20:00] <sarnold> max3: oh :(
[20:00] <Deeps> max3: an alternative approach might be to create a postgres docker container from the ubuntu package, which you can then run on a number of different minimal platforms
[20:03] <max3> Deeps, when you say minimal platforms you mean systems that have docker installed?
[20:05] <Deeps> max3: yes, e.g. photon by vmware
[20:05] <max3> lol so many different layers of abstraction
[20:43] <beisner> coreycb, ok, proposed voluptuous @ mitaka uca  ... and the rest of http://paste.ubuntu.com/15407540/ too.
[20:43] <coreycb> beisner, thanks :)
[20:51] <coreycb> EmilienM, that will include the new sahara version ^
[20:51] <EmilienM> coreycb: cool
[21:11] <devster31> any idea why rsync isn't working between a local hdd mounted on /mnt/usbhdd and an autofs mounted smb share?
[21:45] <camjac251> Hello
[21:45] <mybalzitch> hi
[21:45] <RawPeacock> sup camjac251
[21:46] <camjac251> Would anyone be able to help assist me with X11? I'm running 14.04 with an X11 server to xshell and xmanager. I ran mythtv-setup over ssh and opened up the x11 window. but the problem is the keys are messed up and mouse clicks dont register. the 1 key would show something like w when pressed, F1 would show as 1. So it would be off by 1 above to the right on the keyboard.
[21:47] <camjac251> I'm using a full qwerty keyboard, US, Installed Ubuntu 14.04.4 Server today with that chosen as my locale
[21:48] <camjac251> I tried looking up like wrong keybinds, wrong keys for x11, on google hoping to find some thread with a similar issue and a guide on how to change the x11 keyboard locale, but wasnt able to find anything helpful, the guides there were how to add custom layouts :/
[21:48] <camjac251> meaning I'd map every key by hand myself
[22:01] <LuisM> hi folks
[22:01] <LuisM> look that flaw in Ubuntu Server 14.04 LTS x64 right now: i've just hit "shutdown now" over ssh with root account "sudo su", and in the first tty screen the root account is exposed with shell, then the machine isn't going to shutdown..
[22:02] <LuisM> wtf?
[22:03] <tarpman> LuisM: it switched to single-user mode, exactly as you told it to. what were you expecting?
[22:03] <tarpman> LuisM: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/en/man8/shutdown.8.html -> If no option is specified, the default action is to  bring  the  system down into single-user mode.
[22:03] <LuisM> ok, with logged with root account?
[22:04] <LuisM> looged with root account*
[22:05] <tarpman> LuisM: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/sulogin.8.html -> If the root account is locked, as is the default on Ubuntu, no password prompt is displayed and sulogin behaves as if the correct password were entered.
[22:06] <LuisM> hmm, now i see
[22:06] <LuisM> ;)
[22:06] <LuisM> that behavior is controlled
[22:06] <tarpman> LuisM: even if you lock the root account... unless your disks are encrypted, someone with physical access to your server can just reboot it and boot with "init=/bin/sh"
[22:07] <tarpman> LuisM: so protecting the server itself is still crucial.
[22:07] <LuisM> yeah, absolutely
[23:06] <Gaming4JC> I have 4 drives, what is the best method for backing up stuff? RAID6, RAID0 (two drives for CORE os, the other two rsynced user files separately), or a Union FS such as Gluster, MergerFS, etc.
[23:06] <Gaming4JC> researching this has left me more confused than before I started
[23:06] <Gaming4JC> xD
[23:10] <RawPeacock> alright so I'm trying to follow this guide http://www.kiloroot.com/add-ubuntu-14-04-lts-server-to-a-windows-active-directory-domain-fullest-integration/ and I'm unable to verify on the last step
[23:10] <sarnold> Gaming4JC: have you considered zfs yet? :)
[23:11] <Gaming4JC> sarnold, I did, but the licensing issue bothers me. I like GPL :P
[23:12] <RawPeacock> 14.04 successfully joined the domain using my domain admin credentials, but when I look at other posts using similar methods (ie: https://community.spiceworks.com/how_to/80336-join-ubuntu-14-04lts-to-a-windows-domain-using-pbis-open) I notice a few incongruencies
[23:13] <teward> hate to be the obvious harbinger of IT doom, but relying on RAID or a filesystem to do a backup on its own, without taking a full backup as a separate copy of data, sounds iffy
[23:13] <teward> just sayin ;)
[23:13] <RawPeacock> #1 being that I have no lightdm configuration file /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-unity-greeter.conf , but reading has indicated that that's only necessary on desktop environments not serverside
[23:15] <RawPeacock> #2 being that my server never had the session sufficient pam_lsass.so line in  /etc/pam.d/common-session , so I added it at the bottom of the file with the recommended parameter of session [success=ok default=ignore] pam_lsass.so
[23:18] <RawPeacock> I've attempted to verify just *how* connected I am to my AD by going into my phpIPAM page and seeing if I could add a domain user, which it does successfully, but I'm unable to search on the utility using my domain admin account, and still unable to login using a domain account via ssh
[23:19] <sarnold> RawPeacock: do you have any error messages in /var/log/auth* that might indicate why the sshd logins didn't work?
[23:28] <RawPeacock> sarnold, I'm trying to connect on port 22 on my PuTTY utility but according to this log it's indicating that ssh2 port 61576; unable to authenticate [preauth]
[23:29] <RawPeacock> let me try a different account that's specifically added to the linuxadmins group
[23:37] <RawPeacock> here's my slightly edited log http://paste.ubuntu.com/15411484/
[23:44] <sarnold> RawPeacock: does the /etc/pam.d/sshd file either include the proper account and session lines for the new pam module, or include files that do?
[23:54] <RawPeacock> sarnold, I don't believe so no, going over my notes on the installation of the phpIPAM component  http://paste.ubuntu.com/15411556/
[23:56] <sarnold> RawPeacock: and how about the common-account, common-auth, common-session files?


 "Are there any plans to bring..." <- I would love it if we could. Sadly time is defeating us.
 Is this a "no" or a "yes, we try it"? I can start with packaging it in the next few days, but if there is nobody reviewing and uploading it to the archive, it would not make sense for me to start.
 I think, the hardest part is the whole copyright-checking. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kc2bez[m]> <apt-ghetto> "Are there any plans to bring..." <- I would love it if we could. Sadly time is defeating us.)
 I agree that is the hardest part. I can review and upload things if you have time to work on it. (re @aptghetto: Is this a "no" or a "yes, we try it"? I can start with packaging it in the next few days, but if there is nobody reviewing and uploading it to the archive, it would not make sense for me to start.
 I think, the hardest part is the whole copyright-checking.)
 For some of the qt things making sure the symbols are updated is a bit tricky too.


[08:42] <eoli3n> Hi
[08:43] <eoli3n> https://bugs.launchpad.net/subiquity/+bug/1905932
[08:43] <eoli3n> mwhudson i really need this to be able to use autoinstall
[08:44] <eoli3n> at the end of installation i query a webservice with $(hostname) as php args, to trigger a script which remove pxe boot file on the srv
[08:45] <eoli3n> so, how to set dynamic hostname from dhcp for the netbooted host ?
[09:43] <mwhudson> that's a cloud-init question really
[09:43] <mwhudson> which i don't know the answer to off hand
[09:52] <mwhudson> it's fairly easy if you can make your own iso, you might be able to do it by kernel command line somehow
[09:53] <eoli3n> i found a workaround
[09:53] <eoli3n> but that's dirty
[09:53] <eoli3n> not so dirty, but still dirty
[09:53] <eoli3n> https://bugs.launchpad.net/subiquity/+bug/1905932/comments/2
[09:56] <mwhudson> oh wait a minute, it's casper that puts things in /etc/hostname
[09:56] <eoli3n> so ?
[09:57] <mwhudson> and i can't see how to make it stop, unfortunately
[09:58] <eoli3n> it should be default
[09:59] <eoli3n> i mean, set hostname by dhcp ? not possible -> fallback to "ubuntu-server"
[10:02] <mwhudson> eoli3n: do you have ip=dhcp on the kernel command line?
[10:02] <mwhudson> ah too late, i'll try to have a poke around tomorrow
[10:03] <eoli3n> i do
[10:03] <eoli3n> ok ok
[10:03] <eoli3n> good night ;)
[12:30] <aecalaz> Hello! I need to find the script used in the Ubuntu installer to create the BOOTX86.EFI file. I need to check the args used on grub-mkimage. Can someone help me to find that script? Thanks!
[16:40] <ItzSwirlz> Now at linux 5.10-rc6
[16:40] <ItzSwirlz> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/b65054597872ce3aefbc6a666385eabdf9e288da
[17:19] <tjaalton> bdmurray: hi, can you, or do you know who can, modify the fridge calendar? the weekly kernel meeting should be removed from it
[17:20] <tjaalton> bdmurray: oh nevermind, I found the contact info
[17:21] <bdmurray> okay
[17:44] <vorlon> cpaelzer__, amurray: where could I see the ppa build for the new libseccomp merge (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2020-December/008591.html)?  I have a merge of my own that appears to require new libseccomp
[19:08] <ItzSwirlz> Anyone have spare time to review/maybe get a sponsor? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cinnamon/+bug/1901344
[19:20] <seb128> ItzSwirlz, is the issue fixed in hirsute? and it needs to go the other way around by SRU rules, you can't get focal SRUed before getting H and G fixed
[19:21] <ItzSwirlz> Fixed in hirsute-hold it
[19:21] <ItzSwirlz> Is cinnamon 4.8 in Hirsute yet?
[19:22] <ItzSwirlz> I do remember testing this problem when making the original issue in Groovy.
[19:22] <ItzSwirlz> I confirmed it-but I'll try patching it
[19:23] <ItzSwirlz> Today cinnamon 4.8 was just pushed to experimental (debian). So we'll have to wait for the autosync.
[19:24] <seb128> ItzSwirlz, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cinnamon-screensaver , the version are identic
[19:24] <seb128> ItzSwirlz, there is no autosync from experimental
[19:24] <ItzSwirlz> I was just about to ask that.
[19:24] <ItzSwirlz> I'll DM you when it gets pushed to unstable.
[19:29] <seb128> ItzSwirlz, you could ask for the experimental version to be synced manually; though if the maintained upload to experimental it's probably for a reason
[19:29] <seb128> meanwhile if you want to get the SRU going you could do debdiffs for H and G
[19:30] <ItzSwirlz> Well it a) got uploaded *today* and b) I don't want to deal with the requestsync process
[19:30] <ItzSwirlz> The new upstream releases of Cinnamon-screensaver and Cinnamon 4.8.0 already have this patch
[19:30] <ItzSwirlz> It was part of the release fixes.
[19:33] <ItzSwirlz> seb128: 4.8.0 changelog for cinnamon-screensaver includes:"   [ Michael Webster ]
[19:33] <ItzSwirlz>   * album art: Adjust the album art url for spotify."


[16:01] <pavlushka> Please Help this site to grow into beta, https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/105382/arabic-language?referrer=7U5lgW4GlMikLP2Gbw0DUw2


[21:46] <Mathisen> does ubuntu server 22.04 and 22.10 ship with the same php versions ?
[21:47] <ravage> yes
[21:47] <Mathisen> you mind saying what versions ?
[21:48] <Mathisen> verison*
[21:48] <ravage> https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/php-cli
[21:48] <Mathisen> nice so 8.1
[21:48] <Mathisen> thanks
[21:49] <arraybolt3> The one in Jammy is a *bit* older, 8.1.2 vs. 8.1.7 in Kinetic.
[21:49] <arraybolt3> Just in case that small version difference matters.


[22:43] <sergiodj> hi there, I'm in the final stages of preparation of the telegraf package (needs-packaging bug #1889134).  we already maintain a version of it under the Canonical Server umbrella, so the next step now is to get it accepted into Universe


[02:10] <lopta> Is there a tool for Xubuntu that might tell me fan speeds and cpu temp?
[02:13] <Unit193> xfce4-sensors-plugin is a panel applet that can tell you the temp.
[02:17] <Bashing-om> lopta: Try too: ' inxi -s ' - likely to have to install the tool.
[02:18] <Unit193> Xubuntu ships it.
[02:20]  * lopta writes those down
[02:22] <lopta> Thanks!
[02:22] <lopta> No fan speeds but at least I get the temp.
[02:22] <lopta> ...and the fan speeds are a hardware thing.
[02:24] <Bashing-om> lopta: "inxi" is quite versatile - a read of the man page can do you good: ' man inxi ' .
[02:24] <lopta> Thanks
[02:25] <Bashing-om> lopta: Nvidia graphics ? if ya install the propritary driver then the fan spped can be reported.
[02:25] <Bashing-om> speed*
[02:26] <lopta> Bashing-om: Ah no, this one's Intel graphics, though I suppose the 40mm fan is on the North bridge rather than the CPU ;-)
[02:27] <lopta> ...and the case fan might not be on a 3-pin header.
[02:29] <lopta> This machine was thrown together from scrap.
[02:29] <lopta> (the case was new ...but terrible)
[02:30] <lopta> Anyway, it'll suffice for now.
[02:30] <lopta> I wonder whether there's a way to make Xfce4 work on a plain X display, without render, OpenGL etc.
[02:32] <lopta> Perhaps it has just progressed beyond compatibility with VNC.
[04:18] <lopta> Well, it looks like I'm a Xubuntu user now...
[04:18] <lopta> (at least for a while)
[04:47] <lopta> diogenes_: Thanks for your help earlier today!
[04:48] <diogenes_> lopta, you're welcome :)
[04:50] <christophergray> maybe turn off compositing will make a difference: settings/window manager tweaks/compositor
[04:51] <lopta> christophergray: Can I do that from the command-line though?  I don't get a working UI at all on the VNC side.
[04:55] <christophergray> probably can with dconf or gsettings
[04:57] <lopta> Thanks, I'll look those up.
[04:58] <lopta> For now I'll use a simple window manager.
[05:08] <lopta> Goodnight!
[06:28] <Maneul> Good night
[09:15] <xuxuxu> hi all, I'm getting a "ssd I/O input error" during 20.04 installation. Checked drive sanity and everything seems ok.. Any tips?
[09:16] <tomreyn> xuxuxu: do you know which mainboard it is?
[09:16] <xuxuxu> not really... i'm on a lenovo 330 15igm
[09:16] <tomreyn> how did you "check drive sanity"? can you show the error message?
[09:17] <xuxuxu> I'm back in windows (long story)
[09:17] <xuxuxu> Should I try another usb live media?
[09:17] <tomreyn> most of the time installation errors which are about disk i/o are actually read errors from the installer, because the installer wasn't written to the installation media properly
[09:17] <xuxuxu> ok
[09:18] <xuxuxu> I'll try with another one
[09:18] <xuxuxu> thanks
[09:18] <tomreyn> use balena etcher to write the iso to usb
[09:33] <Maik> or Rufus. Fedora Media Writer is also an option to write iso's to USB
[09:34] <Maik> if you're on Windows that is. :)
[16:42] <keypass> hi I just upgraded from xubuntu 18.04.5 lts to 20.04.1 lts and when I turn on my laptop all I get is a flicking black screen with a mouse cursor in the middle
[16:42] <keypass> how do I fix this?
[16:42] <keypass> this is my 1st boot
[16:43] <keypass> since the upgrade
[16:43] <tomreyn> !recovery
[16:44] <keypass> ?
[16:57] <keypass_> any one here ?
[17:02] <neko_> is anyone online
[17:02] <neko_> i need help with xubuntu error
[17:03] <pmjdebruijn> just ask your question, and wait around a bit
[17:05] <neko_> okey okey
[17:07] <keypass_> can someone help me
[17:07] <neko_> what if xubuntu plymouth default.plymouth dissaperes
[17:09] <pmjdebruijn> keypass_: did you raed the link ubottu pasted?
[17:10] <pmjdebruijn> neko_: what do you mean "what if"
[17:10] <pmjdebruijn> on my system it's : /etc/alternatives/default.plymouth -> /usr/share/plymouth/themes/xubuntu-logo/xubuntu-logo.plymouth
[17:11] <pmjdebruijn> if that file is disappear on you, maybe you've installed another broken plymouth theme?
[17:20] <pmjdebruijn> neko_: so check what you have installed 'dpkg -l | grep plymouth
[17:22] <keypass> the update worked
[17:23] <pmjdebruijn> update?
[17:23] <keypass> yeah the upgrade went through now
[17:23] <keypass> Im able to use my system
[17:23] <keypass> what a relief
[17:24] <pmjdebruijn> you didn't mention the upgrade didn't finish earlier
[17:24] <keypass> it did
[17:24] <pmjdebruijn> you made it seem asif the upgrade was already done
[17:24] <keypass> I had to log into
[17:24] <keypass> tty2
[17:24] <keypass> and type
[17:24] <keypass> sudo apt-get autoclean
[17:24] <keypass> than sudo dpkg configure --a
[17:25] <keypass> and sudo apt-get -f install
[17:25] <keypass> sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[17:25] <keypass> rebooted after this and now im in
[17:25] <pmjdebruijn> that means your upgrade didn't finish properly in any case
[17:25] <keypass> oh it tid
[17:25] <pmjdebruijn> even if in a nonobvious way
[17:26] <keypass> https://hamwaves.com/release-upgrade/en/index.html
[17:26] <keypass> i followed this guide
[17:26] <keypass> to do my upgrade
[17:26] <pmjdebruijn> DOH
[17:26] <pmjdebruijn> do-release-upgrade
[17:26] <pmjdebruijn> that's how do you it
[17:27] <keypass> what do you mean
[17:27] <keypass> I did sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[17:27] <pmjdebruijn> that guide does some steps that aren't needed
[17:28] <pmjdebruijn> do-release-upgrade should take care o feverything critical
[17:28] <pmjdebruijn> though I've never done it on a desktop
[17:28] <keypass> since do release upgrade says it couldnt find an upgradeable version
[17:28] <pmjdebruijn> I just reinstall desktops
[17:28] <keypass> im up though and it works :)
[17:28] <pmjdebruijn> you'd probably want/need 'do-release-upgrade -d'
[17:29] <keypass> yeah thats what I did
[20:22] <xu-help31w> Hello, I am new to Xubuntu and just installed the latest 20.04
[20:22] <diogenes_> !welcome | xu-help31w
[20:23] <xu-help31w> I tried to set QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME in .profile, but it doesn't work. It seems it is set to gtk by other script. but I cant find where it is.
[21:22] <xu-irc3w> How to force restart x server (Ctrl + Alt + backspace) without asking for password


[07:01] <dholbach> good morning
[07:43] <czajkowski> yawns ello folks
[07:43] <elfy> morning czajkowski :)
[08:02] <popey> yo
[08:04] <elfy> ho ahoy
[09:36] <popey> dpm: do you know where the source for the scopes pre-installed lives?
[09:38] <dpm> popey, I don't sorry. Try with mhr3 on #ubuntu-unity, or pstolowski, they should know
[09:46] <popey> kk
[10:33] <popey> dpm: how often does http://projects.davidplanella.org/stats/utopic update?
[10:33] <popey> at daily
[10:47] <dpm> popey, kind of. In principle daily, but I had an issue with SSH keys and cronjobs, so I'm doing it manually until I find the time to sort it out. That's why there are stats for some particular days missing
[10:48] <popey> ah
[10:48] <popey> can you run it sometime soon and see if en_GB went above position 30 ☻
[10:48] <dpm> just re-started the update job for today :)
[10:48] <dpm> will be updated in 1-2 mins
[10:49] <popey> ta
[10:51] <popey> \o/ we rose to #23
[10:51] <popey> excellent
[10:53] <dpm> popey, awesome, look at that titanic-like dip at the end! http://projects.davidplanella.org/stats/utopic/en_GB
[10:53] <popey> muhaha
[11:01]  * popey hugs czajkowski for doing translations.
[11:09] <czajkowski> :)
[11:09] <czajkowski> should get some more free time time
[11:09] <czajkowski> aka being on a clal
[11:09] <czajkowski> *call
[11:13] <czajkowski> random question
[11:13] <czajkowski> is there a way to take a screen shot of a page that has a scrolling text outside of the main capture area
[11:14] <czajkowski> if I take a current screne grab I'm still missing stuff outside of it so need to do a 2nd screen grab
[11:18] <czajkowski> plan B zoom out :)
[12:22] <popey> czajkowski: yes, webpagescreenshot addon
[12:22] <popey> press button, it takes grab of entire page, scrolling as it goes
[12:22] <czajkowski> popey: oh never knew about that
[12:22] <czajkowski> thank you
[12:23] <czajkowski> popey: still got planes flying over head today ?
[12:24] <popey> ya
[12:24] <popey> waiting for the A380 to come in
[12:25] <czajkowski> popey: is it very loud passing over you?
[12:27] <popey> yeah, goes right over the house
[12:27] <popey> as it turns south to line up
[12:27] <popey> so i generally see the underside of the plane as it goes over
[12:33] <czajkowski> wow
[12:33] <popey> quite low too
[12:33] <popey> I'll take a decent pic when it comes in
[12:41] <czajkowski> popey: if it gets too loud feel free to come and work over here
[12:41] <czajkowski> parking and a dog and hens :)
[12:41] <czajkowski> so free eggs :)
[12:46] <popey> thank you!
[12:46] <popey> its okay this week
[12:46] <popey> next week is worse
[12:46] <czajkowski> popey: am here all week next week except wednesday
[12:46] <czajkowski> so any time not a problem
[12:46] <popey> noted ☻
[12:47] <czajkowski> have monty python next tuesday :)
[12:47] <popey> would also be good to get away from the kids ☻
[12:47] <popey> the darlings
[12:47] <czajkowski> swap for a bonkers puppy
[12:52] <popey> hah
[13:06] <belkinsa> mhall119, I know this very early, but I'm willing to be a Community Track lead again.
[13:07] <belkinsa> Oh, speaking of which, has the survey for feedback from the last one came out yet?
[13:15] <dholbach> dpm, so ondrej, popey and I are going to go to the devcon thing
[13:15] <dholbach> dpm, and they are going to have a special discount for the hotel where the actual conference is, so that might be most convenient
[13:15] <dpm> :)
[13:16] <popey> dholbach: oh, awesome, I'll look it up and book it
[13:16] <dholbach> for ondrej and Alan it's just going to be a train ride away
[13:16] <dpm> coolio
[13:16] <dholbach> popey, erm... let me talk to Michelle about the booking first - I can CC you if gou like
[13:16] <popey> yeah, train is easiest for me.
[13:16] <popey> please do
[13:16] <dholbach> not sure if they were going to book it centrally
[13:17] <dholbach> dpm, mhall119: just had a chat with Dave and James about reviewing the other packages in myapps and it looks like we can likely speed up the reviews a bit
[13:18] <dpm> ok, cool. How long is the queue right now?
[13:18]  * dpm wonders if he really wants to know
[13:18] <dholbach> dpm, I think it's still quite long
[13:19] <dpm> ok
[13:19] <dpm> so dholbach, popey, is there a schedule? do you have in mind what you'll be presenting over at xda:devcon?
[13:19] <dholbach> funnily enough we might be able to steal some of the work we did for the arb-lint some aeons ago
[13:19] <dpm> oh, WOW
[13:19] <popey> yes, we have talks
[13:19] <dholbach> dpm, yes, we had a call about what we'd like to present yesterday
[13:19] <popey> well, we have talk titles :D
[13:19] <dholbach> popey, we have it all figured out!
[13:19] <dholbach> :-P
[13:19] <popey> which is like 90% of the work
[13:19] <dpm> hahaha
[13:19] <dpm> I've been there too
[13:20] <dholbach> dpm, the schedule will be up here: http://xda-devcon.com/#SCHEDULE
[13:20] <dpm> having the title is quite a milestone already :)
[13:20] <popey> yeah!
[13:20] <popey> dholbach: we there all 3 days?
[13:20] <popey> oh, starts afternoon on friday. neat
[13:21] <dpm> so you guys are running one talk each, or what are the plans?
[13:21] <dholbach> popey, I could imagine that we pack all our content into Saturday (so 2 talks in the morning, the workshop in the afternoon) and call it "Ubuntu Day" or something and the rest of the time just hang out and spend time at the booth or in conversations with others
[13:21] <popey> +1
[13:22] <dholbach> dpm, one general talk, one about hardware bring-up (Ondrej) and the App Dev Workshop
[13:22] <dholbach> awesome
[13:22] <dpm> nice
[13:22] <dholbach> see - all figured out :-P
[13:22] <dpm> ha
[13:36] <mhall119> belkinsa: thanks about being a track leads.  For the survey, it turns out that jono had already stopped sending them so there isn't one going out, we'll have the discussion via the mailinlist instead
[13:37] <belkinsa> Which list is this?
[13:37] <mhall119> ubuntu-devel-discuss
[13:37] <belkinsa> Thanks.
[13:38] <czajkowski> that's a really good price to attend the XDA event
[13:39] <czajkowski> folks have you seen https://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2014-July/002010.html
[13:46] <popey> yeah, dunno how many people are going but we usually send someone
[13:46] <czajkowski> nods
[13:46] <czajkowski> last year there were a few spotted at different talks
[14:34] <czajkowski> other than the LTP are there any other community portals out there ?
[14:34] <czajkowski> from other groups
[14:34] <czajkowski> that people would recommend
[14:34] <czajkowski> should stop hitting enter soo soon and have more on one line :)
[14:46] <popey> jose: mhall119 https://plus.google.com/u/0/116597364982833470829/posts/GMeNXRayfN6
[14:47] <mhall119> popey: I just tagged jose in it :)
[17:03] <jose> popey, mhall119: \o/ new logo!
[17:15] <popey> yeah!
[17:15] <popey> Sam is great
[17:16] <jose> I'll have to update the branding as soon as I've got some time
[17:17] <jose> final exams are coming next week and they weigh 40% of all my grades
[17:19] <mhall119> worry about exams first :)
[17:55] <dholbach> all right my friends - have a great rest of your day - I'm away for a few days of vacation now! see you soon again! :-D
[17:58] <mhall119> dholbach: enjoy the time off
[17:59] <mhall119> and the entirely coincidental world cup finals
[17:59] <belkinsa> See ya dholbach!
[18:00] <dholbach> mhall119, they are coincidental - I don't think I'll need to take time off of work to recover from watching a soccer match :)
[18:01] <mhall119> depends on if Germany wins or not :)
[18:02] <dholbach> I don't think so :)
[18:02] <dholbach> all right my friends - see you!
[18:02] <dholbach> big hugs!
[18:02] <mhall119> bye :)
[18:03]  * belkinsa hugs the leaving man


[14:57]  * skaet waves
[14:57] <jdstrand> hello
[14:59] <skaet> hiya seb128,  connection ok?
[14:59]  * charlie-tca waves
[15:00] <seb128> hey skaet, just a focus issue in unity which leaded to close the irc channel I just joined rather than the browser tab I was aiming at ;-)
[15:00] <Daviey> o/
[15:00] <skaet> seb128,  coolio.  :)
[15:00] <jibel> \o
[15:00] <skaet> ok, looking like that time.   Welcome all.
[15:00] <seb128> \o/
[15:00] <skaet> #startmeeting
[15:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is skaet.
[15:00] <skaet> [Topic] Oneiric Release Meeting overview - skaet_
[15:00] <skaet> .
[15:00] <skaet> Agenda is at:
[15:00] <skaet> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-07-29
[15:00] <skaet> .
[15:00] <MootBot> New Topic:  Oneiric Release Meeting overview - skaet_
[15:00] <skaet> Summary of the feedback session on 10.04.3 from last week can be found at:
[15:00] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-07-29
[15:00] <skaet> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/10.04.3/Feedback
[15:00] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/10.04.3/Feedback
[15:00] <skaet> .
[15:01] <skaet> Events Approaching:
[15:01] <skaet> - 11.10 Alpha 3: August 4, 2011, soft freeze will be August 1 at 1200 UTC
[15:01] <skaet> - 11.10 FeatureFreeze : August 11, 2011 at 1800 UTC
[15:01] <skaet> .
[15:01] <skaet> Other News:
[15:01] <skaet> An unscheduled Debian Archive synch occured on July 27 as a side effect from testing new launchpad sync feature.  A summary of affected packages can be found at: http://people.canonical.com/~didrocks/sync110727/ .
[15:01] <skaet> Please let the release team know if you can see this impacting A3 from your team's perspective.
[15:01] <skaet> .
[15:01] <skaet> On a much more positive note,  on July 27 Lubuntu started producing daily images and has joined the set of official flavors for 11.10.  Welcome gilir!!
[15:01] <skaet> The release and QA teams are working with gilir to see if we can get the images added to the  A3 release next week.
[15:01] <skaet> .
[15:01] <skaet> Bugs targetted for this release can be found:
[15:01] <skaet> [LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+bugs
[15:01] <skaet> Bugs milestoned for oneiric alpha 3 are at:
[15:01] <skaet> [LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=39142
[15:01] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+bugs
[15:01] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=39142
[15:01] <skaet> .
[15:01] <skaet> Reminder:   please use ".." on separate line when you've finished typing.   If someone wants to comment during the updates, please "o/", so we know to wait.
[15:01] <skaet> questions?
[15:01] <skaet> ..
[15:02]  * skaet looks around for hands,   if no questions will head into the round table.
[15:03] <skaet> [TOPIC] QA team update -  jibel
[15:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  QA team update -  jibel
[15:03] <jibel> Hi all o/
[15:03] <skaet> :)
[15:03] <jibel> * Automated Testing progress
[15:03] <jibel>   * QA Lab servers hard disks have been upgraded this week. Which means increased I/O and more tests run simultaneously.
[15:03] <jibel>   * Fixed bugs/limitations of the testing framework (extraction of hardlink, selection of the right kernel for server testing, kernel SRU testing)
[15:04] <jibel> * 10.04.3 Testing:
[15:04] <jibel>  * Better now than never, the testing report for 10.04.3 is available at
[15:04] <jibel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/LucidPoint3TestReport
[15:04] <jibel> * Oneiric A3 Testing:
[15:04] <jibel>   * Status of smoke test is not good.
[15:04] <jibel>     * Alternate and server were broken today and yesterday (bug 817443) waiting for a new build tomorrow with the fix
[15:05] <jibel>     * No desktop images today (dependency issue on indicator-me) but yesterday was ok. Fix uploaded
[15:05] <jibel>   * New product available for testing next week: Lubuntu
[15:05] <jibel>     * Lubuntu Desktop added to the tracker
[15:05] <jibel>     * Waiting for alternate builds to add them to the tracker too.
[15:05] <jibel>   * Apart from that we are on track for Oneiric A3 testing.
[15:06] <jibel> * Bug activity
[15:06] <jibel>   * Top 5 packages with most bug reported during last week
[15:06] <jibel>     * gnome-settings-daemon	(155 reports, 19.6% of buf reported against Oneiric over last week) (use /+text at the end of the url to read the report to avoid LP timeout)
[15:06] <jibel>     * unity	(63 reports, 8.0%)
[15:06] <jibel>     * nautilus	(31, 3.9%)
[15:06] <jibel>     * lightdm	(30, 3.8%)
[15:06] <jibel>     * compiz	(27, 3.4%)
[15:06] <jibel>   * Top 5 dups of the week
[15:06] <jibel> bug 804896	+64 dups
[15:06] <jibel> bug 804221	+27 dups
[15:07] <jibel> bug 807950	+18 dups
[15:07] <jibel> bug 814619	+17 dups
[15:07] <jibel> bug 804472	+16 dups
[15:07] <jibel>   * Number of crashes reported is increasing to 77% of bug reported against Oneiric (+7% over last week)
[15:07] <jibel> ..
[15:07] <jibel> any question ?
[15:07] <skaet> Thanks jibel!   Do you want me to trigger some alternate and server rebuilds after the meeting so we can confirm 817443 fixed?
[15:08] <jibel> If you wish, but cron will do the job tomorrow morning
[15:09] <skaet> As you wish.
[15:09] <jibel> I mean the tests are automated, so even if tomorrow is saturday, we will know if it is fixed.
[15:09] <skaet> Any impact from the inadvertant debian import from your perspective (ie. more breakage showing up?)
[15:10] <jibel> no visible impact.
[15:10] <skaet> good to know.   Thanks.
[15:10] <skaet> any other questions?
[15:10] <seb128> (it's worth noting that those g-s-d issues are probably mostly apport noise happening at session closing)
[15:11] <seb128> still annoying from a qa perspective but not real world usage issues
[15:11] <skaet> thanks seb128 - was wondering a bit about those.
[15:11] <skaet> [TOPIC] Hardware Certification team update - mlegris
[15:11] <MootBot> New Topic:  Hardware Certification team update - mlegris
[15:11] <mlegris> Hi all!
[15:12] <skaet> :)
[15:12] <mlegris> [Week 30]
[15:12] <mlegris> No report this week due to changes made to the auto login configuration and 10.04.3 certification taking up most of the week
[15:12] <mlegris> We're also gearing up for the A3 testing when it hits
[15:12] <mlegris> should be a fun week, Jeff will be flying up to assist us
[15:13] <mlegris> Bugs:
[15:13] <mlegris> *  Bug #810145 - unity-panel-service crashes
[15:13] <mlegris> *  Bug #708286 - Resume after suspend not working - Toshiba Tecra R700R
[15:13] <mlegris> We're currently updating checkbox to match the change in Oneiric, next week should be better
[15:14] <mlegris> unless Oneiric changes again :)
[15:14] <mlegris> .
[15:14] <mlegris> ..
[15:14] <skaet> Thanks mlegris!  :)
[15:14] <skaet> any questions?
[15:15] <skaet> [TOPIC] Security team update - jdstrand
[15:15] <MootBot> New Topic:  Security team update - jdstrand
[15:15] <jdstrand> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric
[15:15] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric
[15:15] <jdstrand> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/canonical-security.html
[15:15] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/canonical-security.html
[15:16] <jdstrand> We are on the trend line for our assigned work items in our blueprints. We are trying to balance reactive security with work items at this time, and are getting to our remaining work items as time allows. We are hopeful several apparmor work items that our team is responsible for will be completed in the coming weeks.
[15:16] <jdstrand> Looking at the list of oneiric bugs, I don't see anything else worth highlighting.
[15:16] <jdstrand> Also, I will be gone the next two release meetings, but will try to have someone stand in for me.
[15:16] <jdstrand> ..
[15:16] <skaet> Thanks jdstrand!
[15:16] <skaet> any questions?
[15:17] <skaet> (and thanks for arranging for coverage for this meeting,  just let me know who to call on ;) )
[15:17] <jdstrand> skaet: sure thing
[15:17] <skaet> [TOPIC] Kernel team update - ogasawara
[15:17] <MootBot> New Topic:  Kernel team update - ogasawara
[15:17] <ogasawara> Overall status is reported at the first link below.  Burn down for oneiric-alpha-3 is at the second link below.  Burndown for the cycle is at the third link:
[15:17] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric
[15:17] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/canonical-kernel-team-oneiric-alpha-3.html
[15:17] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/canonical-kernel-team.svg
[15:17] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric
[15:17] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/canonical-kernel-team-oneiric-alpha-3.html
[15:17] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/canonical-kernel-team.svg
[15:18] <ogasawara> We're planning one final upload of the kernel today in order to make Alpha 3.  It primarily enables support for Ralink 53xx devices, the cmd64x driver for powerpc, and some Ricoh SD card readers.  We are trending slightly above the Alpha3 burn down line but are below in our overall burndown.  The remaining Alpha3 work items are not release critical and will likely be pushed to Beta-1.
[15:18] <highvoltage> ~~~/win 22
[15:18] <ogasawara> Of the bugs called out on the agenda against the kernel, there is not much change since last week. status is as follows:
[15:18] <ogasawara> #542660: looks to be related to EFI boot not loading the video bios into ram.
[15:18] <ogasawara> #557261: bug reporter has followed up in the upstream bug report regarding the driver warning, but no response back yet.  Still not convinced the driver warning is the root cause of the usb-creator persistence issue.
[15:18] <ogasawara> #754711: on a 3.0 oneiric kernel, system now suspends but doesn't resume.  investigating use of cking's systemtap scripts on it.
[15:18] <ogasawara> #758486: updated debug information attached, investigation ongoing.
[15:18] <ogasawara> #760131: partly fixed in Oneiric and soon natty, more analysis ongoing upstream.
[15:18] <ogasawara> #784937: investigation by kernel dev still ongoing as well as discussion with upstream.
[15:18] <ogasawara> #790712: the order 5 allocation seems to be bogus and non-fatal; further investigation ongoing.
[15:18] <ogasawara> #791850: kernel dev able to reproduce on a CentOS test system. investigation ongoing but at least not blocking on amazon now.
[15:18] <ogasawara> Questions?
[15:19] <ogasawara> ..
[15:19] <skaet> Thanks ogasawara
[15:19] <skaet> Any concerns about A3 next week from your team's perspective?
[15:19] <ogasawara> skaet: nothing so far
[15:19]  * ogasawara knocks on wood
[15:20]  * skaet knocks on wood as well.  :)
[15:20] <skaet> [TOPIC] Foundations team update - cjwatson
[15:20] <MootBot> New Topic:  Foundations team update - cjwatson
[15:21] <skaet> or doko ?
[15:21] <Daviey> both at DebConf?
[15:21] <doko> no update frome me, and colin is likely in another session
[15:22] <skaet> thanks doko.   Moving on then.
[15:22] <skaet> [TOPIC] Server team update - Daviey
[15:22] <MootBot> New Topic:  Server team update - Daviey
[15:22] <Daviey> Hello o/
[15:22] <Daviey> Hello o/
[15:22] <Daviey> Since the last meeting, Eucalyptus has become unseeded.  Orchestra has not yet been seeded, and will therefore not offically be part of the Alpha 3 release.  However, it would be prudent for it to be considered part of it for testing purposes (still mostly in Universe).
[15:22] <Daviey> This does mean that many of the QA test cases can be removed regarding UEC.
[15:22] <Daviey> Addionally, mentions of 'UEC' in Oneiric should be considered a bug.  If a reference is noticed, please help by raising a bug.
[15:22] <Daviey> bug #817443, has caused the current daily to be uninstallable, which should mean that Monday we can start sniffing things.
[15:22] <Daviey> I will be updating the TechnicalOverview first part of next week.
[15:22] <Daviey> WI Tracking:
[15:22] <Daviey> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-server-overview.html
[15:22] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-server-overview.html
[15:23] <Daviey> - server boot, Clint has been working on this - but has mostly been at a conference this week.  I need to sync with him, but i suspect the things which are not yet complete will not be part of A3.
[15:23] <Daviey> - LXC related items have a specific sprint dedicated to it.  It is expected that many of these items will be brought back inline shortly.
[15:23] <Daviey> - Openstack, there is an openstack sprint week after next to polish some issues being encountered.
[15:23] <Daviey> Release Bugs:
[15:23] <Daviey> http://people.ubuntu.com/~davewalker/release-bugs.html
[15:23] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.ubuntu.com/~davewalker/release-bugs.html
[15:23] <Daviey> As ever, if there are bugs pertinent to server release that are not on that list, please raise them with me ASAP.
[15:23] <Daviey> I will be re-targetting milestoned bugs for things we are working on as suitable, start of next week.
[15:23] <Daviey> Thanks.
[15:23] <Daviey> ..
[15:23] <skaet> Thanks Daviey!
[15:23] <Daviey> Questions?
[15:23] <skaet> Are you working with jibel to remove the unnecessary bugs from the iso tracker already?
[15:23] <Daviey> no. :)
[15:24] <skaet> heh
[15:24] <skaet> will hope that they get pulled before we start posting images.  ;)
[15:24] <Daviey> We have loadsa time.
[15:25] <skaet> and timezone compatible on monday morning.  :)
[15:25] <skaet> Are you impacted much by the debian import?
[15:26] <Daviey> Only positively :)
[15:26] <Daviey> Some syncs i was waiting on were done faster.
[15:26] <skaet> coolio.  :)  nice to hear some good news.
[15:26] <Daviey> (from initial inspection)
[15:26] <skaet> any other questions?
[15:27] <skaet> [TOPIC] ARM team update - NCommander
[15:27] <MootBot> New Topic:  ARM team update - NCommander
[15:27] <skaet> or infinity ?
[15:28] <skaet> hmm... ok, will move on for now.
[15:28] <skaet> [TOPIC] Linaro update - rsalvetti
[15:28] <MootBot> New Topic:  Linaro update - rsalvetti
[15:28]  * rsalveti waves
[15:28] <skaet> [TOPIC] Linaro update - rsalveti
[15:28] <MootBot> New Topic:  Linaro update - rsalveti
[15:28] <skaet> sorry 'bout the typo.
[15:29] <rsalveti> - Cross toolchain based on 4.6 for armel/armhf updated
[15:29] <rsalveti> - Ubuntu LEB 11.07 released
[15:29] <rsalveti> - Next week Linaro Connect, normal sprint and planning for the next 3 months
[15:29] <rsalveti> - ARM folks there to work on armhf bringup
[15:29] <rsalveti> ..
[15:29] <rsalveti> np, got highlight for both
[15:29] <rsalveti> :-)
[15:29] <skaet> :)
[15:29] <rsalveti> unfortunately no progress on the eglibc bug
[15:29] <skaet> heh, just about to ask that.
[15:29] <rsalveti> bug will ping folks next week during the sprint
[15:29] <skaet> thanks
[15:30] <rsalveti> ..
[15:30] <skaet> Thanks rsalveti!   any other questions?
[15:31] <skaet> [TOPIC] Ubuntu One Team -  Chipaca or joshuahoover
[15:31] <MootBot> New Topic:  Ubuntu One Team -  Chipaca or joshuahoover
[15:31]  * skaet looks around for Chipaca ?
[15:32] <skaet> [TOPIC] Desktop Team update - seb128
[15:32] <MootBot> New Topic:  Desktop Team update - seb128
[15:32] <seb128> hey
[15:32] <skaet> :)
[15:32] <seb128> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus
[15:32] <seb128> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/canonical-desktop-team.html
[15:32] <seb128> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/canonical-desktop-team-oneiric-alpha-3.html
[15:32] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus
[15:32] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/canonical-desktop-team.html
[15:32] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/canonical-desktop-team-oneiric-alpha-3.html
[15:32] <seb128> == Weekly summary ==
[15:32] <seb128>  * No compiz or unity updates yet but dx is planning on some for monday it seems
[15:32] <seb128>  * GNOME 3.1.4 landed
[15:32] <seb128>  * GNOME in shape for alpha3, unity and compiz are having issues though, dx is working on those but timing is tight for alpha3 it seems
[15:32] <seb128>  * Work items are behind the trend for alpha3, still work on thunderbird but nothing concerning otherwise, we can descope or delay most of the other remaining ones
[15:32] <seb128>
[15:32] <seb128> == RC Bugs ==
[15:32] <seb128> under investigation:
[15:32] <seb128> #772873 ''[Vino does not work with compositing]'': Got feedback that the problem isn't fglrx specific; no progress this week.
[15:32] <seb128> #790240 ''[at-spi needs demotion for oneiric (at-spi2-core in main)]'': blocked on upstream response about a license problem; not a release blocker, moved to a3.
[15:32] <seb128> #806399 ''[Remote Desktop Viewer with Unusual Screen size]'': Reported upstream, no progress yet
[15:32] <seb128> triaged/in progress:
[15:32] <seb128> #795519 ''[Add back system-wide network proxy settings]'': Our ubuntu-system-service patch needs to be ported to control-center 3. No progress this week, but no blocker, just a manpower issue.
[15:32] <seb128> #806064, Bug:799754 ''[lightdm needs something like gdm-set-default-session]'': Discussed with Robert and Mario Limonciello, solution is clear now; Robert is on holidays though so going to miss a3
[15:33] <seb128> #806559 ''[debconf prompt about DM to use during natty->oneiric]'': Discussed with Robert, settled for a solution
[15:33] <seb128> #804009 ''[clicking on the volume slider closes the SoundMenu]'': New on the radar this week; fix will beworked on by DX
[15:33] <seb128> fixed since last report:
[15:33] <seb128> #787694 ''[GNOME 3 System Settings: Provide stub icons for launching Ubuntu specific capplets]'':  remaining updates got rolled out
[15:33] <seb128> #795046 ''[xauth broken after logging in with lightdm]'': the new version landed in oneiric
[15:33] <seb128> #809890 ''[lightdm-example-gtk-greeter crashed with SIGSEGV in __strcmp_ssse3()]'': should be fixed in the new version which is in oneiric
[15:33] <seb128> ..
[15:33] <skaet> Thanks seb128!   When will the compiz/unity land for A3?
[15:33] <seb128> check with dbarth when it's his turn
[15:33] <seb128> they plan for updates on monday
[15:33] <skaet> will do.
[15:34] <seb128> but that's hoping that testing on tarballs that didn't get rolled yet is good
[15:34] <seb128> i.e we will know once we start seeing tarballs which build and can be tested ;-)
[15:34] <skaet> hmm....  thought we were supposed to get out of that monday squeeze.  fingers crossed tarballs are good.
[15:35] <skaet> any other questions?
[15:35] <NCommander> skaet: Bavk, house internet went blink
[15:35] <skaet> NCommander,   ack,  call on you after dbarth then.  :)
[15:36] <skaet> [TOPIC] Desktop Experience Team Update - dbarth or njpatel
[15:36] <MootBot> New Topic:  Desktop Experience Team Update - dbarth or njpatel
[15:36] <dbarth> hi
[15:36] <skaet> :)
[15:36] <dbarth> ouch, too many open windows
[15:37] <dbarth> status report: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/OneiricReleaseStatus
[15:37] <dbarth> missing news about utouch
[15:37] <dbarth> but mostly a transition week before FF for us
[15:37] <dbarth> still we're preparing test packages for both unity & compiz
[15:37] <dbarth> to provide for the a3 milestone
[15:37] <dbarth> doing a cut of what's in trunk, and reverting to a more stable version of the decorator, sans dialog style plugin
[15:38] <dbarth> and with gsettings support
[15:38] <dbarth> also neil is doing a cut of what's in unity's trunk with mostly crashers and leaks fixes
[15:38] <dbarth> on the u-2d front, the shared panel is finally merged in, as well as the a11y support code
[15:39] <dbarth> and slow but some progress at last on the stacking issue with a reproducible way to make the system fail with systematically the same event type
[15:39] <dbarth> ..
[15:40] <skaet> Thanks dbarth!
[15:40] <skaet> Why so late for the a3 drop?
[15:41]  * skaet thought it was supposed to be week before?
[15:42] <dbarth> because we're late essentially
[15:42] <dbarth> :-/
[15:43] <skaet> dbarth, understood.   Please test that drop real well.
[15:43] <skaet> :)
[15:43] <skaet> any other questions?
[15:44] <skaet> [TOPIC] ARM team update - NCommander
[15:44] <MootBot> New Topic:  ARM team update - NCommander
[15:44] <NCommander> mornign all
[15:44] <skaet> :)
[15:44] <NCommander> so preinstall pool handed for ARM this week while gets our server images to be fully self-contaned
[15:45] <NCommander> this will be getting its first real testing during A3 next week so we'll be looking for bugs and various oddities
[15:46] <NCommander> We expect our desktop, server, and netboot images for omap3/4 to be in a releasable state, and don't expect any major issues
[15:46] <NCommander> As for as general ARM porting issues, ocaml remains broken and under research onto the root cause of its segfault
[15:46] <NCommander> ..
[15:47]  * skaet keeps fingers crossed on those omap3 images
[15:47] <skaet> Thanks NCommander!
[15:47] <NCommander> np
[15:47] <skaet> any progress on the bugs on the agenda?
[15:47] <skaet> couple are A3 milestoned, and not sure if ogra will be back in time?
[15:48] <NCommander> ogra will be back on monday
[15:48] <NCommander> I haven't reviewed the ARM bug list milestoned for A3, but I'll go through it later today and make adjustmnts to due dates as needed
[15:48] <skaet> thanks!  :)
[15:49] <skaet> any other questions for NCommander ?
[15:49] <skaet> [TOPIC] Kubuntu Team update - ScottK
[15:49] <MootBot> New Topic:  Kubuntu Team update - ScottK
[15:51]  * skaet looks around for someone from Kubuntu team?
[15:51] <skaet> [TOPIC] Edubuntu Team update - highvoltage
[15:51] <MootBot> New Topic:  Edubuntu Team update - highvoltage
[15:52] <skaet> hmm... ok,  moving on here too
[15:52] <skaet> [TOPIC] Xubuntu Team update - charlie-tca
[15:52] <MootBot> New Topic:  Xubuntu Team update - charlie-tca
[15:52] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu Desktop images available today. Live session now works, but will not automatically login.
[15:52] <charlie-tca> Installation must be run from the cd menu.
[15:52] <charlie-tca> Alternate images fail for the bug discussed above in QA's report.
[15:52] <charlie-tca> * #799238: "Xubuntu i386 and amd64 20110618 xserver abort" - should be fixed; will verify today
[15:52] <charlie-tca> * #799754: "Please let vendors easily provide their own config" - inwork. A workaround has been done so lightdm is working at this time.
[15:52] <charlie-tca> * #806408: "After xubuntu upgrade or installation, default session on greeter must be xubuntu" - still blocked by 799754.
[15:53] <charlie-tca> Alpha3 is looking okay at this time. Images are even sized right.
[15:53] <charlie-tca> All in all, Xubuntu is happy today.
[15:53] <charlie-tca> Any questions?
[15:53] <charlie-tca> ..
[15:53] <skaet> Thanks charlie-tca!
[15:53]  * skaet happy to hear all is going well with Xubuntu and images are fitting.  :)
[15:54] <charlie-tca> as well as can be expected
[15:54] <skaet> indeed.  it is A3 after all.  ;)
[15:54] <skaet> [TOPIC] Toolchain update - slangasek or doko
[15:54] <MootBot> New Topic:  Toolchain update - slangasek or doko
[15:55] <skaet> hmm,  I suspect doko's comments above hold here too
[15:55] <skaet> moving on
[15:56] <skaet> [TOPIC] MOTU team update - tumbleweed
[15:56] <MootBot> New Topic:  MOTU team update - tumbleweed
[15:56] <tumbleweed> ohi
[15:56] <skaet> :)
[15:56] <tumbleweed> not that much to report, FTBFS are up a lot since the unexpected sync
[15:56] <tumbleweed> http://corelli.tumbleweed.org.za/ubuntu-qa/qa-ftbfs/oneiric-historical.html
[15:56] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://corelli.tumbleweed.org.za/ubuntu-qa/qa-ftbfs/oneiric-historical.html
[15:56] <tumbleweed> but half of them have been dealt with already
[15:56] <skaet> \o/
[15:57] <tumbleweed> anyway, I'm at debconf and currently driving a dvswitch, so
[15:57] <tumbleweed> ..
[15:57] <skaet> thanks tumbleweed!
[15:57] <skaet> [TOPIC] any other business/questions/comments?
[15:57] <MootBot> New Topic:  any other business/questions/comments?
[15:58] <skaet> going once
[15:58] <skaet> twice
[15:58] <micahg> o/
[15:58] <skaet> go micahg
[15:58] <skaet> heh,  just caught me... ;)
[15:59] <micahg> just wanted to follow up on the e-mail I sent about libjpeg-dev, I just gave a patch to the patch pilot to revert libjpeg8 providing the virtual package
[15:59] <micahg> ..
[15:59] <Daviey> can we go home now? :)
[15:59] <tumbleweed> oh, I seem to remember someone mentioning an unexpected transition in #ubuntu-motu (not the jpeg one), but I can't remember what it was
[15:59] <skaet> Thanks micahg
[16:00] <tumbleweed> I'll invistigate this evening
[16:00] <tumbleweed> ..
[16:00] <skaet> Daviey,  yeah I think its a wrap...
[16:00] <Daviey> \o/
[16:00] <skaet> Thank you everyone.
[16:00] <skaet> #endmeeting
[16:00] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 11:00.
[16:01] <skaet> Thanks jibel, mlegris, jdstrand, ogasawara, doko,  rsalveti, Daviey, seb128, dbarth, charlie-tca, tumbleweed, micahg, NCommander
[16:01] <charlie-tca> skaet: you are very welcome. Thank you for chairing the meeting.
[16:01] <jibel> thanks skaet
[16:01] <rsalveti> skaet: thanks!
[16:02] <Daviey> thanks skaet
[16:12] <seb128> thanks