[10:25] <Out_Cold> Ali_nz, ps -aef
[10:26] <[R]> bullgard4: its just a part of alsa
[10:26] <gribouille> afv, you'll see soon
[10:26] <Ali_nz> ok
[10:26] <[R]> bullgard4: read the source code for alsa lib
[10:26] <afv> gribouille, i'll see soon the problems you're having?
[10:26] <ruud> mzz: my ubuntu menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu.com/216119/
[10:26] <mzz> bullgard4: are you trying to fix some problem or are you just curious?
[10:27] <owen1> how to kill x?
[10:27] <gribouille> afv, yes, I'm uploading a screenshot
[10:27] <afv> ah ok
[10:27] <afv> owen1, shoot him
[10:27] <toomai> owen1: restartion X can be done by pressing ctrl-alt-backspace (unless you run 9.04)
[10:27] <Cube_> owen1: lol good luck
[10:27] <Cube_> toomai: huh? they changed it in 904?
[10:27] <mzz> !dontzap
[10:27] <grawity> owen1: sudo service gdm stop, usually works.
[10:28] <ruud> mzz: and my opensuse menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu.com/216120/
[10:28] <toomai> Cube_: they disabled that nice combo in 9.04...you need to reenable it first
[10:28] <bullgard4> mzz: My Ekiga 3.2.0 loads my processor (centrino Mobile Technology) with 82% of its time.
[10:28] <owen1> i am in tty1, xfce (used) to run, and i am trying to run startx and use awesome instead of xfce.
[10:28] <Cube_> toomai: oh coz people did it on accident? did they remap it to something less common though?
[10:28] <owen1> and i can't run startx since x is still running, somewhere..
[10:28] <mzz> ruud: ok. Is there more than one hd in that system (is opensuse on a different drive, not just a different partition)?
[10:28] <afv> Cube_,  Alt+SysRq+K
[10:28] <gribouille> ok, guys, the scrreenshot is available at http://i25.tinypic.com/8yar2b.png
[10:29] <ruud> mzz: I have three drives, opensuse is on the same as ubuntu but a different partition
[10:29] <laeg_> when i booted ubuntu this morning it doesn't load the GUI, doesn't give any errors and instead appears to stay in what i would call a term (white on black text) and i just get a login prompt - seems to stay in tty1, another tty seems to be stuck on checking battery state. i've tried all the options in recovery mode except the disk check because it said it would damage my mounted volume. yesterday i edited some sshd options, sudo taskel install (and later remove
[10:29] <toomai> Cube_: well, they CLAIM people did it on accident...I can not figure out HOW you can do that by accident...but...well, no remap...they actually disabled it...if you reenable it, it is still ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:29] <ruud> mzz: I use my bios to boot from the second hdd on which grub is installed
[10:29] <gribouille> did you see it ?
[10:29] <respecting> please help me i have a big problem.I have windows XP installed and i want to install Ubuntu so i can make dual boot(boot on windows or on linux).Can i made this?
[10:30] <[R]> respecting: just run the ubuntu cd and install it
[10:30] <ruud> mzz: normally it just boots from the first hdd and windows loads, only if I explicitly tell to boot from the second hdd grub starts
[10:30] <mzz> ruud: then try replacing "hd0" with "hd1" or "hd2"
[10:30] <grawity> laeg_: if you run 'sudo service gdm start', does it work?
[10:30] <mzz> ruud: (not sure which, depends on bios magic)
[10:30] <grawity> respecting: Just boot from the Ubuntu CD, install it, and that's it
[10:30] <toomai> respecting: yes you can...;)....you need unallocated disk space on your harddisk however. There are plenty of good tutorials for dual boot on the net
[10:30] <mzz> ruud: there was also a command that may be useful if you can get to a grub prompt, sec...
[10:30] <ruud> mzz: but why does the suse menu.lst say hd0 then?
[10:30] <grawity> toomai: Ubuntu can now resize the Windows partition automatically.
[10:31] <ruud> mzz: ok I have a grub terminal
[10:31] <toomai> grawity: true...but that still leads into unallocated space which is needed...;)
[10:31] <mzz> ruud: if you boot to a grub prompt (*not* the "sudo grub" one, actually boot into grub) you can try "geometry (hd0)" (and the same for hd1 and hd2) to figure out which drive is which. Getting you a link for more information...
[10:31] <ronniehood> another good idea is to reserve space for a ghost image when you test a lot ;)
[10:32] <grawity> toomai: On 9.04, everything is done automatically by the installer.
[10:32] <gribouille> afv, mzz, grawity : the scrreenshot is available at http://i25.tinypic.com/8yar2b.png
[10:32] <ruud> mzz: ok thanks
[10:32] <Rebeka> OK: So sorry to spend everyone's time so badly here.  Here's the last question, if I can't get an answer then I'll leave you to let you take other folk's questions. ;)
[10:32] <toomai> grawity: well, yes...that tool lets you make unallocated space which is then needed for the installation of ubuntu...:)
[10:32] <nsadmin> Rebeka: ask away... you're not taking up resources
[10:32] <afv> gribouille, hmm.. that page opens normally here... did you try using a new/blank profile?
[10:33] <toomai> grawity: but on a personal note...I hate "automatically"...but that is just me...:)
[10:33] <gribouille> afv, no
[10:33] <ircleuser> .
[10:33] <ruud> mzz: going to try right now, also changed hd0 to hd1 to test
[10:33] <toomai> grawity: at least in this context of manipulation the harddisk for dual boots (which I stopped using since new harddisks are very cheap)
[10:33] <mzz> ruud: see the top of http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-using-grub_002dinstall.html#Installing-GRUB-using-grub_002dinstall
[10:33] <Rebeka> ok, so after the box boots, it says "Enter Password for default keyring to unlock" and the normal usr password unlocks it.  I just need the box to boot!  Is there any workaround to get past this thingy!?
[10:33] <mzz> bleh, timing
[10:33] <nsadmin> btw, the autologin thing is pretty much at the application level, it's nowhere near the kernel
[10:34] <gribouille> afv, how can I create a new profile ?
[10:34] <grawity> Rebeka: I already told you, remove the password from the keyring !@$
[10:34] <nsadmin> the box doesn't boot without this?
[10:34] <Rebeka> (it prompts outta usr/bin/nm-applet)
[10:34] <mzz> gribouille: I saw, sorry, was multitasking. Renders just fine in 3.5 here. Does it work in firefox safe mode (exit it completely and use "firefox-3.5 -safe-mode" to start it again) or in a temporary fresh profile?
[10:34] <afv> gribouille, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_Manager
[10:34] <howie> how can i install kernal?
[10:35] <howie> ...
[10:35] <grawity> mzz: I think he means the ugly interface, not the page itself
[10:35] <ikonia> Rebeka: you can make gnome-keyring remember passwords, there is normally a checkbox for this
[10:35] <Rebeka> @grawity, sorry, how would one do such a thing?
[10:35] <grawity> ikonia: But there's still the password of keyring.
[10:35] <mzz> gribouille: wait, grawity has a point. You *are* complaining about the content, not the firefox interface?
[10:35] <mehdi> hi to all guys
[10:35] <gribouille> mzz, let's try it
[10:35] <grawity> Rebeka: Go to the password manager (Seahorse).
[10:35] <ikonia> grawity: I thought there was a checkbox on the prompt for that too
[10:35] <bucky> ikonia grawity those nice gui admin tools are nice if you can log in
[10:35] <afv> yes, it's the content.. http://fr.news.yahoo.com
[10:35] <grawity> bucky: She can.
[10:35] <ikonia> bucky: she didn't say she couldn't log in
[10:36] <grawity> ikonia: If you login normally, then your password is used to unlock the default keyring.
[10:36] <bullgard4> [R]: There is no such thing as "the alsa lib". Rather, there are > 10. So what filename do you mean exactly?
[10:36] <Rebeka> @grawity: Forgive my ignorance, but where is Seahorse?
[10:36] <grawity> Rebeka: Accessories -> Password Manager, probably.
[10:36] <mehdi> how can I install best proxi in my ubunto
[10:36] <mzz> bullgard4: are you sure this is alsa-related? did you profile it or something?
[10:36] <ikonia> grawity: interesting so the auto login isn't "your" password so the keyring is not unlocked, interesting senerio
[10:36] <grawity> ikonia: But if you use autologon, there's no known password, so it has to ask you for one, otherwise the keyring cannot be unlocked.
[10:36] <mzz> bullgard4: also, the files below /proc/asound probably tell you what's what in /dev/snd/.
[10:36] <ikonia> grawity: yes, I see where you are going
[10:37] <gribouille> mzz, what do you mean ?
[10:37] <bucky> ikonia: is that a bug or a feature
[10:37] <grawity> ikonia: With autologon, gdm simply uses its rootness to switch users.
[10:37] <ikonia> bucky: neither
[10:37] <grawity> It's just how Linux works.
[10:37] <gribouille> mzz, I'm complaining about the way firefox diplays a page
[10:37] <mzz> gribouille: you're in kde, and getting the stock gtk theme, so the firefox user interface looks a bit clunky.
[10:37] <ikonia> grawity: yup, I can see how that would cause her an issue
[10:37] <grawity> (On Windows, autologon is performed by using a password that is stored in the Registry.)
[10:37] <bullgard4> mzz: I am not sure. I am trying to find out why this happens. I do not know what the verb "to profile" means. Can you elaborate.
[10:37] <laeg_> grawity: i'll have to reboot into ubuntu to try it - is there anything else i should try?
[10:37] <mehdi> I need a proxi that be anti filter
[10:37] <ikonia> mehdi: squid
[10:38] <ruud> mzz: the error message was "error 17: can not mount selected partition"
[10:38] <mzz> bullgard4: sorry, nontrivial, can't walk you through that
[10:38] <grawity> laeg_: use 'tail' on /var/log/syslog and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:38] <HawttDawgg> i need a proxy
[10:38] <gribouille> mzz, the problem is not the interface
[10:38] <HawttDawgg> =(
[10:38] <bullgard4> mzz: Ok.
[10:38] <mehdi> squid?
[10:38] <mzz> ruud: ok, that's definitely grub then, and given what you're doing I'm pretty sure using a different value for X in (hdX,Y) will help
[10:38] <OttifantSir> I have a (hopefully) quick question: I have "deleted" all panels, using AWN in its place. This has, however, disabled Alt + F2 Run Dialog. Any idea on how to re-enable it?
[10:38] <fretegi> hey guys, anyone know how to make a restorable ISO of a linux Hardrive?
[10:38] <fretegi> preferably bootable?
[10:38] <Rebeka> @grawity: I cannot see such a thing in 9.04.  App>Accs>Password and Encryption Keys ... just brings up a window
[10:38] <ruud> mzz: ok, I'll try
[10:38] <Slart> OttifantSir: are you running compiz?
[10:39] <OttifantSir> Slart: Yes.
[10:39] <laeg_> grawity: tail /var/log/syslog - tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log? what will that do? unfortunately irssi has also stopped working so i have to keep logging into windows to come back here :(
[10:39] <cherva> can someone help me with this d-bus error in Xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/216127/ this leads to various X crashes
[10:39] <grawity> Rebeka: Yeah, that's Seahorse -- go to the last tab, it should show one keyring "login"
[10:39] <Buletin> cool things to do on ubuntu?
[10:39] <Rebeka> (sorry, I'm not a linux person, gimme some time)
[10:39] <grawity> laeg_: 'tail' shows the last few lines of the specified file.
[10:39] <mehdi> squid... what is this I dont know about this
[10:39] <Rebeka> Solid, I'll give it a try,
[10:39] <mzz> ruud: the trick is grub accesses drives through the bios while linux accesses them more directly. By the time you're booted into linux grub can no longer figure out what order the bios puts them in, and that order may change depending on the boot order configured through the bios.
[10:39] <Slart> OttifantSir: can't you map alt+f2 to something from there? I'm not sure what the dialog is called that pops up when you press alt+f2 with the panels there
[10:39] <laeg_> grawity: and what will i do with these lines?
[10:40] <gribouille> mzz, don't you see the thick black lines on the screenshot ?
[10:40] <mzz> ruud: so you really need to actually boot into grub to be able to tell what order it gets the drives in.
[10:40] <grawity> laeg_: You read them. And see if they tell anything about why X fails.
[10:40] <mzz> gribouille: yes, but mainly you're getting a completely different page style than I'm getting here.
[10:40] <ruud> mzz: geometry returned four partitions on hd0 of which two are ext2fs
[10:40] <mehdi> I need help for squid...
[10:40] <ruud> mzz: the other ones are unknow
[10:40] <mehdi> what is this
[10:40] <houhou> hello
[10:40] <gribouille> mzz, what do you mean by page style ?
[10:40] <mzz> gribouille: err, no, wait. I didn't scroll down far enough.
[10:41] <banditpower> Hello world.  I caused an error on my server.  Here's the shindig: i have ubuntu intrepid that had wordpress running on apache2.  I installed ispcp but then I couldn't access phpmyadmin or my site.  My solution was to configure /etc/apache2/sites-available/00_master.conf and /etc/apache2/ports.conf to serve ispcp on another port and an appropriate vhost on port 80.  However, now php isn't working out of the site i set to port 8
[10:41] <ruud> mzz: I'll try the second partition
[10:41] <OttifantSir> Slart: I guess I can map it, but as you pointed out: To what?
[10:41] <afv> OttifantSir, open CompizConfig Settings Manager, Gnome Compatibility, and map the keys
[10:41] <houhou> I use kubuntu 8.04 the list of program in ADEPT is not complete
[10:41] <Slart> OttifantSir: I'm looking around.. I'll let you know if I find something
[10:41] <grawity> gribouille: Sometimes, Ctrl-F5 (or clearing the cache) helps with such problems.
[10:42] <afv> Slart, just fount it already
[10:42] <afv> found*
[10:42] <mzz> gribouille: huh, not sure what's going on there :(
[10:42] <gribouille> grawity, I never had such a problem with firefox
[10:42] <mzz> gribouille: (unless it's some pretty weird cairo/driver interaction)
[10:42] <mzz> gribouille: I've seen vaguely similar corruption but only on very tall pages
[10:42] <mehdi> please get me proxi that worked
[10:43] <OttifantSir> afv, Slart: Gnome Compatibility is running, and Alt + F2 is mapped to Run-dialog already. Seems like it's more to it than I have time for now. Off to work in five minutes. Thanks for trying anyhow;-)
[10:43] <Slart> afv: that works even when the panels aren't loaded?
[10:43] <spsneo> !ff35
[10:43] <afv> no panels at all? i don't know :|
[10:43] <houhou> how can I update the list of program in ADEPT?
[10:43] <afv> i use the top panel
[10:43] <Slart> OttifantSir: I'll keep looking.. catch me later and ask me how the search went =)
[10:43] <Buletin> cool things to do on ubuntu?
[10:44] <afv> Buletin, ?
[10:44] <Slart> Buletin: I hear that chatting in #ubuntu-offtopic is supposed to be awesome.. have you tried it?
[10:44] <OttifantSir> Slart: I turned on a binding for opening a terminal. It will do for now.
[10:44] <afv> i'll try that one myself :p
[10:44] <Buletin> no i mean cool things to do on ubuntu machine
[10:44] <ronniehood> g++: tinystr.c: No such file or directory i don't know how to add it, http://sourceforge.net/projects/tinyxml/ , if i unpack the downloaded file then i still don't have the correct files
[10:45] <mehdi> I need a best proxi for firefox
[10:45] <gribouille> how do I clear private data in firefox 3.5 ?
[10:45] <janisozaur> how can i check if a compiled program uses SSEx extensions?
[10:45] <Slart> Buletin: ok, to put it a little more bluntly.. ask in #ubuntu-offtopic , this is the support channel..
[10:45] <grawity> gribouille: Tools -> Clear Recent History
[10:45] <grawity> mehdi: Tor.
[10:45] <Slart> OttifantSir: ok, if it makes you happy =)
[10:45] <bucky> ronniehood: tinystr.c is not in jaunty
[10:46] <mehdi> Tor?
[10:46] <Slart> !tor
[10:46] <gribouille> grawity, does it also clear the cache ?
[10:46] <ronniehood> i have to upgrade to 9.04 ?
[10:46] <ruud> mzz: booting opensuse worked, but then it switched to text mode and stopped half way (after recognising my mouse)
[10:46] <bucky> ronniehood: tinystr.c is not in jaunty 9.04
[10:46] <grawity> Yeah - click the button next to "Details".
[10:46] <ruud> mzz: kernel settings wrong or something like that?
[10:47] <mzz> ruud: if it's mounting your root partition I blame opensuse for that one, not grub :)
[10:47] <mzz> ruud: failed how, though?
[10:47] <grawity> gribouille: And choose "Everything" for time range.
[10:47] <ronniehood> i use 8.10 at the moment
[10:47] <ruud> mzz: it just stopped booting
[10:47] <ruud> mzz: I got some kind of terminal
[10:47] <mzz> ruud: ask your favorite opensuse support channel?:P
[10:47] <bucky> ronniehood: are you sure you did a make install on tinyxml ?
[10:47] <ruud> mzz: but I couldn't log in
 tanks
[10:48] <ruud> mzz: I think this is related to grub
[10:48] <mzz> ruud: why/how?
[10:48] <ruud> mzz: grub passes some things to the os, like the kernel and some other options
[10:48] <mzz> ruud: if it mounted / grub's job is pretty much done. There's a slim chance you need to make some change in fstab, but it should fail pretty obviously if that is the case.
[10:48] <ikonia> ruud: once the kernel is starting to boot, grub is out of the equasion
[10:48] <ronniehood> make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop.
[10:48] <laeg_> grawity: i'm going to try now and right down the results - ty
[10:48] <stuarticus> Can anyon advise on a tricky install?... Laptop, CD drive seems to be goosed. Can't boot any Live cd, not even UBCD! And no boot from USB option... Have external HD encosure and another machine though.... Advice?
[10:48] <ikonia> ronniehood: what are you trying to build ?
[10:49] <der_On> I've just run a distro update and now my nautilus is gone. I use ubuntu hardy. I also cannot reinstall nautilus as some dependencies are not allowing me to install certain packages needed by nautilus.
[10:49] <ikonia> stuarticus: buy a usb cdrom is the simple/most effective option
[10:49] <ronniehood> vr 1.7.8 , it goes wrong with tinuxml
[10:49] <ronniehood> tiny
[10:49] <mzz> stuarticus: does the regular hd still boot?
[10:49] <grawity> stuarticus: How about boot over LAN?
[10:49] <fretegi> boot network?
[10:49] <ikonia> stuarticus: buy replacement laptop drive, as netbooting is more effort than it's worth for one machine
[10:49] <grawity> (PXE boot)
[10:49] <ikonia> stuarticus: plus you will need a cdrom in the future
[10:49] <stuarticus> Does have netowrk boot, not sure how to set it up
[10:50] <stuarticus> It reads cds okay, seemingly, just seems to fail on boot
[10:50] <stuarticus> have tested ram, seems ok
[10:50] <Slart> is there a command where I can click on a window in X and get properties for it?
[10:50] <mzz> stuarticus: it has to boot off something to install ubuntu, but as long as it still boots at all you may have options.
[10:50] <ikonia> stuarticus: what is the problem on boot ?
[10:50] <mzz> stuarticus: (you can install ubuntu from an existing linux install, for example)
[10:50] <stuarticus> It's a windows install at the mo, critical stop
[10:50] <gribouille> how can I know what diplay drivers are used on my system ?
[10:50] <stuarticus> lsass or winlogon
[10:50] <ikonia> stuarticus: you can't boot a windows install ?
[10:50] <ruud> mzz: could this be the problem? kernel 		/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_HD501LJ_S0MUJ1CQA24672-part3
[10:51] <stuarticus> Can't boot anything!
[10:51] <mzz> ruud: not if you copied that from the other grub correctly.
[10:51] <ikonia> stuarticus: ok - so swap the drive then
[10:51] <Rebeka> Hey folks!  I just logged in from the hog-box,
[10:51] <ruud> mzz: I had to change the partition number also though it was copied directly
[10:51] <mzz> ruud: that root=... bit is just passed as-is by grub to the kernel. Grub doesn't process it.
[10:51] <Rebeka> and you totally helped me fix the problem!
[10:51] <ikonia> stuarticus: you'll need a cdrom drive for normal computer use, so swapping it out seems sensible
[10:51] <stuarticus> laptop, can't see hot ro remove, Vaio, maybe non standARD?
[10:51] <ruud> mzz: that is exactly the problem I think
[10:51] <ikonia> stuarticus: sure it is standard, take it to a hardware shop to get it replaced if you are not comfortable yourself
[10:52] <mzz> ruud: no, it isn't.
[10:52] <ruud> mzz: as suse did load, but with the wrong commands I think so it couldn't continue
[10:52] <Rebeka> It only took a few minor tweaks,
[10:52] <stuarticus> Comfortable, just can't find the screws!
[10:52] <mzz> ruud: again: grub doesn't process that string. Neither your working opensuse grub nor your failing ubuntu grub does.
[10:52] <ikonia> stuarticus: manuals available online
[10:52] <ruud> mzz: I know
[10:52] <stuarticus> How about a good source for network boot info? Is it easy?
[10:52] <mzz> stuarticus: if you have another system you can plug the laptop drive in you can install ubuntu there (chrooted) then swap the drive back
[10:52] <ruud> mzz: but the os that grub loaded does, right?
[10:52] <Rebeka> So you're all fine folks, and I wanna thank you 'fer your patience with my problems and questions, thanks again,
[10:53] <stuarticus> Hmm, is it pretty easy?
[10:53] <mzz> ruud: grub needs to locate and load a kernel image and (optionally) an initrd, pass a string of arguments to the kernel, and boot it. That's all it does here.
[10:53] <boraklavun> hi there I ve a question about google earth
[10:53] <ikonia> stuarticus: I'd advise you to deal with your drive as without one you'll have problems in the future
[10:53] <mzz> ruud: your kernel boots. Therefore grub is not the problem, unless you pasted the string of arguments over wrong.
[10:53] <boraklavun> need hel about that would you please
[10:54] <Rebeka> Take care all,
[10:54] <stuarticus> yes, if i was sure i was going to use the thing i wouldn't mind paying for new cd
[10:54] <mzz> ruud: please ask your favorite opensuse support channel to help you figure out what opensuse is actually getting stuck on.
[10:54] <ortsvorsteher> boraklavun: just ask, tell us complete details
[10:54] <ruud> mzz: yes my kernel boots, and it worked partially like I said
[10:54] <banditpower> Hello world.  I caused an error on my server.  Here's the shindig: i have ubuntu intrepid that had wordpress running on apache2.  I installed ispcp but then I couldn't access phpmyadmin or my site.  My solution was to configure /etc/apache2/sites-available/00_master.conf and /etc/apache2/ports.conf to serve ispcp on another port and an appropriate vhost on port 80.  However, now php isn't working out of the site i set to port 8
[10:54] <mzz> ruud: "it just stopped booting" doesn't help me at all, and even if you told *this* channel what the last few messages before that were we wouldn't necessarily know what they meant.
[10:54] <stuarticus> mzz: can you clarify chrooted install?
[10:55] <ruud> mzz: I changed the partition, I'm checking if it works now
[10:55] <mzz> stuarticus: sec...
[10:55] <stuarticus> thx
[10:55] <owen1> is there a terminal that can zoom in/out other than terminator?
[10:55] <grawity> owen1: gnome-terminal?
[10:55] <laeg_> grawity: sudo service gdm start asks for my pass and then just gives the bash prompt. syslog lists failures starting and then de-activating etho. xorg talks only about the mouse - what now?
[10:55] <boraklavun> I installed google earth on ubunutu  9.04 64 bit but unfortunately  ; it is not working there is give te error about firewall and authentication
[10:55] <owen1> grawity: i'll try it. thanks.
[10:56] <owen1> grawity: what about xfce-terminal+
[10:56] <boraklavun> I check firewall and also I did not use  firewall
[10:56] <owen1> ?
[10:56] <Ahadiel> owen1, xfce's terminal is "terminal"
[10:56] <mzz> stuarticus: best explanation I can find offhand is the "Without CD" at the bottom of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[10:56] <grawity> owen1: Haven't tried that.
[10:56] <GorodV> Q: is there netcat on ubuntu 9.04 liveCD?
[10:56] <grawity> Ahadiel: No, it's xfce4-terminal
[10:56] <mzz> stuarticus: I haven't actually done this with ubuntu though, I think.
[10:56] <boraklavun> I dont know anything about that can anyone advice for that
[10:57] <Ahadiel> grawity, You sure? I could've sworn it's /usr/bin/terminal
[10:57] <acke_> gribouille: what does it say if you run fglrxinfo?
[10:57] <grawity> Ahadiel: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/i386/xfce4-terminal/filelist
[10:58] <damianos> Hello! I have 2 (small) technical problems with my xubuntu ...1)Although sound was enabled now i can hear nothing (indicators show master 100% -my speakers have no problem- my soundcard seems to be recognized...)   2)at sites like youtube I can not actually see the videos and my cpu works over the top....
[10:58] <damianos> any idea??!!
[10:59] <Slart> damianos: have you installed the proprietary flash from adobe?
[10:59] <stuarticus> mzz: thanks, looks doable, will try
[11:00] <ruud> mzz: chatting from suse right now
[11:00] <ruud> mzz: I was right
[11:00] <laeg_> grawity: sudo service gdm start asks for my pass and then just gives the bash prompt. syslog lists failures starting and then de-activating etho. xorg talks only about the mouse - is there anything else i can try?
[11:00] <damianos> slart: let me see...
[11:01] <FreeFull> Hey, when I try to run "sudo apt-get install firefox" to upgrade my firefox, I get this error: E: Nie udało się uzyskać blokady /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable). I checked and there are no other processes running that would have to do with package management.
[11:02] <mzz> ruud: about what?
[11:03] <ruud> mzz: it was the parameters grub passed to suse
[11:03] <mzz> ruud: changed from what to what?
[11:03] <ruud> mzz: I changed -part3 to -part2
[11:03] <mzz> ruud: that makes no sense, unless you moved partitions around
[11:03] <mzz> ruud: (did you remove a partition in front of the one opensuse is on?)
[11:04] <Pirate_Hunter> is there a command that removes old linux headers or leaves just the one i want?
[11:04] <ruud> mzz: I changed this " kernel 		/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_HD501LJ_S0MUJ1CQA24672-part2"
[11:04] <ruud> mzz: as far as I know I didn't remove a partition but it looks like it yes
[11:04] <mzz> FreeFull: output of "sudo fuser /var/cache/apt/archives/lock"?
[11:05] <FreeFull> mzz: /var/cache/apt/archives/lock:  5359
[11:05] <FreeFull> Aah
[11:05] <ruud> mzz: anyway it works now, thanks very much mzz.
[11:05] <FreeFull> I did miss a process that was using it
[11:05] <mzz> ruud: semi-related: lvm is pretty nice for avoiding this kind of glitch, since it gives you more persistent partition names instead of relying on ordering for numbers
[11:05] <FreeFull> Thanks
[11:05] <ruud> mzz: what is lvm?
[11:06] <mzz> ruud: let's see if I can find you an introduction. It looks rather intimidating at first, but if you only use a small subset of its features it's actually *easier* than oldfashioned partitioning, imho
[11:06] <ruud> mzz: ok
[11:07] <linux_linux> how can i know the version of chatzilla ? chatzilla --version does not work
[11:07] <enigmass> Ciauzzz XD
[11:07] <Cube_> lololololololololoooooooooooool
[11:07] <mzz> ruud: bleh, can't find a particularly great introduction offhand. Just google.
[11:08] <bazhang> Cube_, ??
[11:08] <ruud> mzz: ok, thanks again
[11:08] <stuarticus> mzz: the drive currently has xp on it, will chroot install install grub for me?
[11:08] <mzz> ruud: basically you end up with one or more "normal" partitions merged in a (named) volume group, with (named) logical volumes inside that.
[11:08] <fretegi> so anyway to burn a bootable iso of a linux partition for restore purposes?
[11:08] <linux_linux> what's the command to know the version of chatzilla ?
[11:08] <gribouille> linux_linux, dpkg -s mozilla-chatzilla
[11:09] <mzz> ruud: the useful thing in this case is that you can just refer to (say) /dev/main/root without having to worry about partition numbers changing (it finds all physical volumes on boot, if the partition number those are on changes that doesn't affect the /dev/main/root name)
[11:10] <mzz> stuarticus: for the trick I had in mind you'd need a linux install, although there are some options if all you have is a (working!) windows.
[11:10] <gribouille> linux_linux, dpkg -s mozilla-chatzilla | egrep Version
[11:10] <mzz> stuarticus: I don't know what the most convenient option is there
[11:10] <stuarticus> I have another linux install
[11:10] <diddy> Does the old Firefox 3.0 have to be uninstalled manually after installing Firefox 3.5?
[11:10] <gribouille> diddy, no
[11:10] <mzz> diddy: you can just keep both installed, they shouldn't bite.
[11:10] <ruud> mzz: does grub support that?
[11:11] <mzz> ruud: no, that's the main downside. You need a separate /boot for grub to use.
[11:11] <diddy> But I don't need the 3.0 anymore. Why should I keep it?
[11:11] <FreeFull> It's easier to write firefox and have 3.5 start up
[11:11] <mzz> diddy: I haven't checked if it lets you uninstall.
[11:12] <linux_linux> gribouille: Package `mozilla-chatzilla' is not installed and no info is available.
[11:12] <gribouille> diddy, you can remove it if you xant
[11:12] <linux_linux> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[11:12] <linux_linux> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[11:12] <grawity> I just used ubuntuzilla to update 3.0. (It did create some temporary font problems though)
[11:12] <linux_linux> gribouille: Package `mozilla-chatzilla' is not installed and no info is available.Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[11:12] <laeg_> grawity: sudo service gdm start asks for my pass and then just gives the bash prompt. syslog lists failures starting and then de-activating etho. xorg talks only about the mouse - is there anything else i can try?
[11:12] <grawity> I don't know :/
[11:13] <laeg_> :(
[11:13] <gribouille> linux_linux, do you have the chatzilla program on your system ?
[11:13] <laeg_> was really hoping to ssh home from work today
[11:13] <FreeFull> laeg_: sudo X and see what happens
[11:13] <linux_linux> gribouille: if i click chatzilla from Internet>chatzilla and then   ps aux  isee a process like seamonkey-bin
[11:13] <laeg_> FreeFull: ok brb - i'm on windows and have to reboot into ubuntu because irssi can't connect
[11:13] <laeg_> grawity: ty anyway man
[11:14] <linux_linux> gribouille: it's /usr/lib/seamonkey/seamonkey-bin -chat
[11:14] <gribouille> linux_linux, normally, if you start the program, there should be a menu entry that gives the version of the program
[11:15] <ruud> mzz: ok I'll just stick with this
[11:15] <linux_linux> gribouille: yea it's ChatZilla <IP_ADDRESS> ,but is there any command to display that ?
[11:16] <gribouille> linux_linux, there is no general command to display the version of a program
[11:17] <Cobalt> gribouille: program --version ususally works. Or dpkg -l | grep programname. Something like that.
[11:17] <linux_linux> gribouille: firefox --version  ,isn't a general command to display the version of firefox ?
[11:17] <diddy> How can Firefox 3.0 be removed. sudo aptitude remove firefox doesn't do it for me.
[11:17] <gribouille> linux_linux, it may work for firefox, but not for any program
[11:17] <Cobalt> diddy: Isn't the package name firefox-3.0 rather?
[11:18] <FreeFull> Why does firefox 3.5 call itself shiretoko?
[11:18] <diddy> How did you find that out?
[11:18] <diddy> Cobalt, How did you find that out?
[11:18] <linux_linux> gribouille: yea
[11:18] <laeg_> sorry, who was it that asked me to try sudo X?
[11:19] <FreeFull> laeg_: What happened?
[11:19] <laeg_> :)
[11:19] <Cobalt> diddy: It tells you when you install it. Your package manager of choice should also list it as such.
[11:19] <laeg_> ehm
[11:19] <linux_linux> gribouille: dpkg -l | chatzilla   got this   ii  seamonkey-chatzilla                        1.1.15+nobinonly-0ubuntu2                 Seamonkey Chatzilla IRC client
[11:19] <laeg_> some text flashed for a split second
[11:19] <laeg_> FreeFull: then the screen want blank
[11:19] <laeg_> left it for 30 seconds, nothing happened, completely black screen
[11:19] <linux_linux> gribouille: is chatzilla different or built in for different program ?
[11:20] <gribouille> linux_linux, i don't know, I don't use it
[11:20] <FreeFull> laeg_: Definitely an X problem then
[11:20] <linux_linux> gribouille: for mozilla and for seamonkey ,is chatzilla different ?
[11:20] <kane77> hi, I don't know if anyone will be able to help, but I have an e-book in pdf and I would like to increase font so that I will be able to read it better on my cell phone, any ideas how to do it?
[11:20] <FreeFull> linux_linux: no
[11:20] <laeg_> FreeFull: isn't it strange etho doesn't work though?
[11:20] <FreeFull> laeg_: you mean eth0?
[11:20] <linux_linux> except pidgin,xchat  what else for irc ?
[11:20] <laeg_> yeah sorry
[11:21] <diddy> Firefox 3.5 is beta software?
[11:21] <diddy> Ahhhhhhh
[11:21] <bazhang> linux_linux, weechat irssi konversation
[11:21] <laeg_> FreeFull: syslog lists it failing and then deactivating - when i try bash with network support from recovery it tries to config DHCP but i've a static internal/external ip
[11:21] <diddy> Damn, I already removed 3.0
[11:21] <laeg_> FreeFull: so do i just re-install x, and if so how?
[11:22] <Shamoun> hi guys, i was wondering how easy it is to configure new hardware in ubuntu? if i add a new pci card to a system, can i configure it entirely through gui? or do i need to open up a terminal and load modules myself?
[11:23] <Cobalt> Shamoun: A lot of hardware is autodetected afaik.
[11:23] <mzz> Shamoun: depends on the card. For properly supported stuff it'll just work.
[11:23] <der_On> Well I've figured out my problem starts with the libgail18 package. I need that one to reinstall nautilus, But if i want to install libgail18 it want's to remove dozens of usefull applications. Does anybody know a solution?
[11:23] <Shamoun> cobalt, after installation correct?
[11:23] <linux_linux> is there any irc client except pidgin,xchat,chatzilla ?
[11:24] <Cobalt> Shamoun: Of course, after you plug in whatever hardware.
[11:24] <owen1> i get "Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting." when running gnome-terminal
[11:24] <Cobalt> linux_linux: For the command line, there is also irssi.
[11:24] <Shamoun> because in the past that used to be the weakness of linux distros that were easy to install for non linux users, the initial setup went smooth but any additions to the system weren't handled very well
[11:24] <Cobalt> Shamoun: How long ago are you talking about here?
[11:24] <Shamoun> linux_linux, tons
[11:25] <skiwithpete> hi
[11:25] <Shamoun> Cobalt, a few years ago
[11:25] <Cobalt> That's quite a long time back :). I think things have evolved a little since.
[11:25] <Shamoun> the days before HAL
[11:25] <skiwithpete> can anyone tell me how to find out what vid card I've got?  I'm having problems with 9.04 displaying slowly
[11:25] <mzz> skiwithpete: try "lspci | grep -i vga"
[11:26] <linux_linux> Shamoun: what is tons ?
[11:26] <skiwithpete> cheers mzz
[11:27] <Shamoun> linux_linux, i have personally used the 3 you mentioned as well as irssi and epic4 there are plenty of others, you should start by determining what kind of interface you want and going from there
[11:27] <Shamoun> ie kde / gnome / terminal
[11:27] <linux_linux> Shamoun: is epic4 a teminal based client ?
[11:28] <Shamoun> linux_linux, yes
[11:28] <Cobalt> linux_linux: If I remember correctly though, irssi is more recent.
[11:28] <skiwithpete> ok, I've got a radeon
[11:29] <linux_linux> i'm looking for a chatclient with graphical interface ,not terminal based
[11:29] <skiwithpete> are there known problems with "ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY"
[11:30] <mzz> skiwithpete: looks like that's an oldish chip that should work ok using the "radeon" driver
[11:30] <Starcraftmazter> hello, i have a problem reading a 4.3gb file from a dvd on ubuntu
[11:30] <Cobalt> linux_linux: Try this in a terminal: apt-cache search irc | grep -i client
[11:30] <skiwithpete> mzz, where do i get the latest radeon driver?
[11:30] <grawity> irssi <3
[11:30] <mzz> skiwithpete: you should already have it
[11:30] <laeg_> FreeFull: so do i just re-install x, and if so how? someone in #xorg said sudo X is supposed to black out the screen?
[11:30] <Starcraftmazter> anyone know why it doesnt work? no particular error messages, just says it fails to read it
[11:30] <skiwithpete> like I say its running slow on 9.04
[11:30] <mzz> skiwithpete: what's the actual problem again, and can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[11:31] <skiwithpete> mzz, I was afraid you'd say that
[11:31] <mzz> skiwithpete: heh, yeah, sorry.
[11:31] <skiwithpete> mzz, sorry, I don't know what you mean?
[11:31] <gilles> linux_linux: You can use Pidgin, it's under Applications > Internet
[11:31] <Cobalt> Starcraftmazter: Corrupt file? Corrupt DVD/filesystem?
[11:31] <skiwithpete> what's pastebin
[11:31] <mzz> !pastebin > skiwithpete
[11:31] <owen1> linux_linux: irssi is better than any gui-based clients, imho
[11:31] <linux_linux> Cobalt: thanks
[11:31] <mzz> skiwithpete: specifically "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" should work
[11:32] <linux_linux> gilles: except pidgin ,xchat,chatzilla
[11:32] <Cobalt> linux_linux: A lot of those will not be what you want, but it does give you a starting point and an idea of what might be available.
[11:32] <mzz> owen1: mmm, matter of taste, but irssi+screen is hard to beat
[11:32] <linux_linux> Cobalt: yea ,thank you
[11:32] <Starcraftmazter> Cobalt: no, im sure it worked fine on my other ubuntu pc
[11:32] <gilles> linux_linux: Oh must've missed that
[11:33] <Cobalt> Starcraftmazter: Also, check syslog/dmesg. Might be something useful in there. Could also be a faulty drive/cabling issues?
[11:33] <nikolas23> hey, hello there
[11:33] <nikolas23> I have a problem
[11:33] <owen1> i get "Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting." when running gnome-terminal. any ideas?
[11:33] <nikolas23> with dkms
[11:33] <skiwithpete> pastebin command not found
[11:34] <Cobalt> !pastebin | skiwithpete
[11:34] <Starcraftmazter> Cobalt ill check now, but the drive works fine
[11:34] <skiwithpete> mzz, I'm not sure how to get the info you want
[11:34] <skiwithpete> what do I punch into terminal?
[11:35] <damianos> Hello I still have a problem...I may have installed an older abobe plugin...so the videos at you tube doesn't play...I can see the preview and tha bar loading but the video doesnt flows...
[11:35] <arand> !pastebin | skiwithpete
[11:35] <damianos> any idea???!!
[11:35] <nikolas23> υπαρχει κανεις ελληνας εδω παιδια;
[11:35] <linux_linux> Cobalt: i installed irssi ,now how can i see the list of channels/room ?
[11:35] <damianos> :)
[11:35] <linuxeksplorer> I just successfully setup an IRC for the first time using Xchat-Gnome and Ubuntu help documentation. Straightforward and easy.
[11:35] <nikolas23> ωπ
[11:35] <nikolas23> ρε γαμωτο τα χω μπλεξει εδω περα
[11:35] <linux_linux> Cobalt: i ran irssi typing irssi in the terminal
[11:35] <nikolas23> με την nvidia και το dkms
[11:35] <arand> !english | nikolas23
[11:35] <bazhang> nikolas23, english here #ubuntu-gr for Greek
[11:36] <Cobalt> linux_linux: As a matter of fact, I use Xchat myself, and have never used irssi; but a lot of people like either one of those. Which is why I mentioned it to you.
[11:36] <mzz> skiwithpete: "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[11:36] <arand> !gr | nikolas23
[11:36] <respecting> please very urgent help.I have windows xp installed and i have NTFS.Now i'm using norton partition magic to make a new partition to install on it ubuntu.It told me to choose EXT2 or EXT3 file system.What must i choose please please?
[11:36] <nikolas23> ok ok, sorry
[11:36] <Starcraftmazter> Cobalt: i got some errors, sense key: medium error, I/O error, dev sr0, secontor 91....
[11:36] <Starcraftmazter> sector*
[11:36] <linux_linux> Cobalt: :)
[11:36] <bazhang> respecting, ext3
[11:36] <respecting> Sure?
[11:36] <respecting> Are you sure?
[11:37] <fretegi> ext 3 for root and ext2 for boot
[11:37] <Madpilot> respecting, ext3 - but the ubuntu installer can partition & format as well.
[11:37] <bazhang> respecting, yes sure
[11:37] <respecting> okay i will use ext3 thank you
[11:37] <respecting> very much
[11:37] <Cobalt> Starcraftmazter: IO error sounds like hardware. Not sure though. Medium error... well, problem with the DVD, at a guess.
[11:37] <skiwithpete> just had the comp freeze on me
[11:37] <damianos> can someone help?
[11:37] <mzz> respecting: I'd just use the ubuntu installer's partitioner (you can use that norton thing to create empty space for it to use if you like)
[11:37] <skiwithpete> restarting then will
[11:37] <Muiske>  /join #ubuntu-nl
[11:37] <alfacat> can we have ext3 and ext4 on Jaunty?
[11:37] <mzz> alfacat: yes
[11:37] <skiwithpete> might be a bigger prob
[11:38] <mzz> alfacat: the installer defaults to ext3 but does allow you to create ext4 partitions.
[11:38] <arand> alfacat: yes, advanced partitoning allows ext4
[11:38] <arand> alfacat: or if it's called "manual"
[11:38] <mzz> alfacat: I forgot what the exact option was but it's fairly obvious
[11:39]  * PeruLinux i'm looking for chat in spanish, please, help me
[11:39] <bazhang> PeruLinux, #ubuntu-es
[11:39] <nikolas23> i'd like to ask you, I have a problem. Whenever I install dkms package, I get a disk error at startup (UNC error). I need dkms in order to use nvidia drivers. If I don't install them, my computer graphics suck!
[11:40] <PeruLinux> thank you bazhang
[11:40] <alfacat> why does X fails to recognise my CRT? and, how can I patch it so it lets me use higher def then 800x600?
[11:40] <nikolas23> can I make synaptic install dkms at another part of the disk, which is not ruined?
[11:41] <arand> nikolas23: I though you didn't have to install dkms normally, it works with just pulling in the the nvidia driver...
[11:42] <arand> nikolas23: If the disk is defective, run fsck (sudo touch /forcefsck  and reboot)
[11:43] <nikolas23> arand: I tried to run fsck but when it finds the bad sector it stops
[11:43] <nikolas23> arand: synaptic says dkms is needed to get nvidia drivers installed
[11:44] <arand> nikolas23: ok, does fsck say anything else (at that point you might have to boot up on a livecd and run fsck with some parameters)
[11:45] <nikolas23> I run it now and says that /dev/sda5 is clean
[11:45] <arand> nikolas23: hmm, I guess dkms is installed by default per standard...
[11:46] <nikolas23> arand: it says something about cleaning orphaned i node #####
[11:46] <arand> nikolas23: then hopefully no disk errors...
[11:47] <der_On> I've managed to solve my problem with atitude. There was an dependency error and some packages had to be downgraded. now Nautilus is back.
[11:47] <nikolas23> arand: but at startup, the bar for ubuntu loading freezes and I get errors
[11:47] <pete_> mzz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/216157/
[11:47] <pete_> sorry am skiwithpete, just having probs with connection
[11:47] <der_On> farewell now
[11:48] <nikolas23> arand: {DRDY ERR} and then error:{UNC}
[11:48] <damianos> Hello I still have a problem...I may have installed an older abobe plugin...so the videos at you tube doesn't play...I can see the preview and tha bar loading but the video doesnt flow...
[11:48] <nikolas23> arand: I don't know if this helps, but I had Vista and formatted the partition. Is there any chance Ubuntu used windows files that now don't exist?
[11:49] <nikolas23> arand: It was a dual boot
[11:49] <pete_> is mzz still here
[11:49] <Cryptorchild> pete_, search mzz nickname on the sidebar
[11:50] <Cryptorchild> pete_, or type the first character then press tab if your irc client support it
[11:51] <pete_> guys, I've found this suggestion for my card on the forum, ive had problems with the radeon driver. I recommend using the DRI
[11:51] <pete_> driver. (You could try the glx driver if the dri for somereason doesnt
[11:51] <pete_> work)
[11:51] <pete_> how do I use the DRI driver?
[11:52] <Cryptorchild> pete_, what is your graphic card?
[11:52] <pete_> "ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY"
[11:52] <pete_> its drawing really slowly in Jaunty
[11:53] <pete_> menus take a long time and scrolling in FFx sucks
[11:53] <arand> nikolas23: very unlikey I think... I'd still say you could try running fsck from a livecd (fsck -f to force even if it's marked as clean)
[11:53] <pete_> Cryptorchild, any suggestions?
[11:54] <Cryptorchild> pete_, yeah ATI is shit in Jaunty, not all type working with ATI restricted driver
[11:54] <pete_> so what do I do?
[11:54] <pete_> how do I switch to DRI driver?
[11:54] <pete_> or something else?
[11:55] <pete_> sorry, am noob
[11:55] <diffred> how do I play 3gp videos in 9.04¿?
[11:56] <nikolas23> arand: I will try what you said. It will sound funny, but if I moved the partition (with a livecd) to other disk sectors, will the disk errors dkms generated disappear?
[11:56] <pete_> Cryptorchild, sorry, those questions were for you
[11:56] <pete_> Cryptorchild, what am I meant to do now?
[11:57] <f1uxdude> I am quite impressed by the way ubuntu catches commands that do not exist and tells you what package you need to install. I have found the func that does this but can't see how it is called, anyone know?
[11:57] <arand> nikolas23: possibly, I don't really know... maybe the errors crop up in another application then... *really has no idea*
[11:58] <hhh> Can anyone know how to install matlab in ubuntu 8.0?
[11:58] <jrib> f1uxdude: read your /etc/bash.bashrc
[11:58] <grawity> f1uxdude: I think it is called automatically by bash as long as it has that name.
[11:59] <arand> nikolas23: If fsck runs good, I'd suspect something else than disk fail though...
[11:59] <bazhang> f1uxdude, command-not-found ?
[11:59] <nikolas23> arand: oh, you think? I'm pissed off because I desperately wanted to get rid off Windows and all its problems, and now I think linux destroyed my hard disk and I may have to change it **pay**! god!
[11:59] <f1uxdude> grawity: cool, thanks
[11:59] <jrib> nikolas23: linux doesn't destroy hard disks...
[11:59] <f1uxdude> bazhang: yes I found it and it's func, but was not sure how bash actually called it when a command didn't exist
[12:00] <nikolas23> arand: to speak the truth, I think I had tried fsck but it couldn't run because of disk errors. However, i'll try it again
[12:00] <nikolas23> jrib: r u sure?
[12:00] <nikolas23> jrib: in fact, i am total newbie and I may say nonsense
[12:00] <Fretegi> hey guys, can someone look at my rkhunter results?
[12:00] <mzz> pete_: sorry, was distracted. Looking now.
[12:00] <jrib> nikolas23: yes.  I really really doubt your hard drive is physically damaged because of linux.  Do you mean it destroyed data?
[12:00] <pete_> thanks mzz
[12:00] <Fretegi> got 3 suspicious file types, look ok, but would like a second opinion if no one minds
[12:01] <arand> nikolas23: That's when it's good to run fsck from the outside, so to speak, livecd or otherwise.
[12:01] <pete_> mzz, can you private message me when you look through it?
[12:01] <nikolas23> jrib: at startup there are errors say ata1.00 status: {DRDY ERR}
[12:01] <mzz> pete_: I heavily prefer staying on this channel
[12:02] <mzz> (was there a factoid for why? I think so)
[12:02] <linduxed> for some reason the keyboard shortcuts dialog lets me set custom commands to XF86AudioPlay (and other media keys like that), lists the correct key bound to the command, but the command never works when i actualli try to execute it
[12:02] <Promille> Hi. Does anyone know the reason why VLC isnt in the reps for ubuntu ? I'm on 64 bit though
[12:02] <Myrtti> !pm | mzz , pete_
[12:02] <Fretegi> can anyone help me with rkhunter?
[12:02] <nikolas23> arand: i'll try it and i'll see what happens
[12:02] <Promille> sorry i meant VLC 1.0
[12:02] <mzz> Myrtti: ah, thanks
[12:02] <jrib> !sru | Promille
[12:02] <pete_> mzz, I don't want to repeat myself, but I've seen that DRI is suggested to improve the situation
[12:03] <pete_> but I don't know what DRI is, nor how to implement it
[12:03] <mzz> pete_: yeah, and you seem to be low on dri. Do you know if the 16MB it detects is accurate?
[12:03] <geophysics> hi,  how to make XP default on grub screen , editing sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:03] <mzz> pete_: err, low on video ram
[12:03] <nikolas23> jrib: I'm disappointed because ubuntu are well-known for their speed of starting up and my computer makes about 5 minutes to enter gnome
[12:03] <shivek> Is there anyway I can change the appearance of panels?
[12:03] <jrib> geophysics: yes, look at the "default" line
[12:03] <mzz> geophysics: there should be a "default" in there somewhere, change the number after that
[12:03] <pete_> mzz, I think so, but it might be 32meg, can't really remember
[12:03] <geophysics> default 0
[12:03] <mzz> nikolas23: that's unusually slow, unless it's a pretty old system.
[12:03] <jrib> !themes | shivek
[12:04] <mzz> pete_: can you pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.0.log too while you're at it?
[12:04] <mzz> err
[12:04] <T3Roar> somebody help! i'm stuck in workspace 2 and I can't switch  back to the normal one :\
[12:04] <mzz> pete_: sorry, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:04] <pete_> sure, 2 mins
[12:04] <shivek> ubotto:Thanks
[12:04] <mzz> T3Roar: iirc the default binding is ctrl+alt+arrow left
[12:04] <shivek> Jrib:thanks
[12:04] <T3Roar> mzz: i've tried that, but it's not working
[12:04] <geophysics> jrib: default line is  0
[12:04] <nikolas23> mzz: it's a pavilion dv5, bought at 2008
[12:04] <jrib> Promille: you can probably find a few ppa's with it though...
[12:04] <T3Roar> i'm not sure what's happened to my workspace settings
[12:04] <mzz> T3Roar: or you can click in the pager thing on the panel (add one if it's not there)
[12:05] <jrib> geophysics: change it to the number that corresponds to windows xp (or move windows xp to first in the list)
[12:05] <T3Roar> mzz: my panel has disappeared too!
[12:05] <mzz> nikolas23: there are ways to figure out where it's spending time (like "bootchart") but I can't walk you through them
[12:05] <mzz> T3Roar: start a new one
[12:05] <T3Roar> mzz: how?
[12:05] <geophysics> jrib:  how can i know what number is related to xp
[12:05] <mzz> T3Roar: do you still have a terminal or a way to get one? Does alt+f2 still work?
[12:05] <jrib> geophysics: on your menu, count the lines starting at 0
[12:06] <T3Roar> mzz: yes, i have the run box
[12:06] <geophysics> jrib:  it sounds logical =)   thanks
[12:06] <jrib> geophysics: it's probably better to make windows first though since the number of ubuntu options may change
[12:06] <mzz> T3Roar: run gnome-panel
[12:06] <pete_> hey mzz my xorg.conf is empty
[12:06] <mzz> pete_: that's ok
[12:06] <mzz> pete_: reading your log more thoroughly now
[12:07] <T3Roar> mzz: it doesn't bring up the panel
[12:07] <mzz> T3Roar: ugh. sec.
[12:07] <jrib> Promille: for example: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[12:08] <T3Roar> mzz: it did run the command, but i'm quite sure this workspace is not working how it should be, i think it's something to do with compiz-config
[12:08] <mzz> T3Roar: yeah, sounds like your wm is confused (the panel's still running, you just can't see it). Perhaps run "compiz --replace" or "metacity --replace"?
[12:09] <kizza> how do i use aircrack-ng
[12:09] <ge2x> how to make ntfs partitions automount?
[12:09] <Pricey> kizza: Have you looked for a guide?
[12:09] <ge2x> !ntfs
[12:09] <pete_> mzz, find anything?
[12:09] <mzz> pete_: is that an internal or external panel?
[12:09] <kizza> yeah
[12:10] <pete_> mzz, laptop, so internal
[12:10] <T3Roar> mzz: i did and now it lets me switch between workspaces, but the panel is still hidden
[12:10] <kizza> but i get diffrent errors
[12:10] <T3Roar> mzz: is there a command to show the panel?
[12:10] <mzz> pete_: mmm, I wonder if a Virtual line forcing your max resolution to the panel's native (instead of 1600x1200) would help
[12:10] <mzz> T3Roar: I don't use gnome enough to find that one quickly
[12:10] <grawity> gnome-panel
[12:11] <T3Roar> grawity: i've tried gnome-panel, nothing happens :(
[12:11] <grawity> Try with --replace?
[12:11] <mzz> T3Roar: can you check if gnome-panel is running (launch gnome-system-monitor to check)
[12:11] <pete_> mzz, how do i do that?
[12:11] <T3Roar> mzz: yes it is
[12:11] <mzz> T3Roar: the problem is I normally get at its configuration by right-clicking a blank spot on the panel, which is hard if there isn't one :)
[12:11] <grawity> pete_: ps ax | grep panel
[12:12] <mzz> pete_: sec, let me try to write one
[12:12] <T3Roar> mzz: it's just empty space and nothing happens when i right click anywhere on the background
[12:13] <T3Roar> mzz: i've just done gnome-panel --replace and it worked
[12:13] <T3Roar> !
[12:13] <Fretegi> anyone willing to look at a rkhunter log for me?
[12:14] <arand> Fretegi: post the log at pastebin and someone might jump on it.
[12:15] <mzz> pete_: untested: http://paste.ubuntu.com/216165/
[12:16] <Fretegi> pastebin.ca?
[12:16] <T3Roar> mzz: my desktop's gone now, i can't see my icons
[12:16] <T3Roar> what a mess
[12:16] <T3Roar> is there anything i can reinstall to reset this stuff?
[12:16] <jrib> T3Roar: restart nautilus
[12:16] <T3Roar> compiz really screwed my over
[12:16] <Fretegi> http://pastebin.ca/1492574
[12:16] <Fretegi> hey guys, anyone wanna look at that log for me, has 3 files that show up suspicious,
[12:17] <Fretegi> dont look bad to me, however... still rather new
[12:17] <ronniehood3> i had that also a time ago, i deleted one folder, then you can get everything back in origin state, you have to use google for the folder name, i forgot
[12:17] <T3Roar> mzz: i'm just going to restart and see what's going on then, thank you for your help :)
[12:17] <linduxed> for some reason the keyboard shortcuts dialog lets me set custom commands to XF86AudioPlay (and other media keys like that), lists the correct key bound to the command, but the command never works when i actualli try to execute it
[12:17] <T3Roar> jdrib: thanks :)
[12:17] <mzz> Fretegi: those pulse ones are ignorable
[12:18] <mzz> Fretegi: if I read that correctly that's rkhunter not liking/knowing about shared mem sitting there
[12:18] <Fretegi> ok great, thanks for the confirmation, what are they caused by?
[12:18] <Fretegi> oh ok
[12:18] <jrib> linduxed: what does xev say about that key?  If you set that key to that keysym using xmodmap does it then work?
[12:19] <mzz> Fretegi: google for "rkhunter /dev/shm/" for a second opinion
[12:19] <Fretegi> now, does rkhunter do anything  if it finds anything?
[12:19] <nsadmin> dustybin: probably that discussion would be more effective if the maint were involved... it's probably brandon robinson
[12:19] <mzz> linduxed: is the problem with the media key or with the command? If you bind the command to something simple like ctrl+alt+m does it work?
[12:20] <mzz> Fretegi: sorry, I'm not actually familiar with it, so no clue
[12:21] <Fretegi> just finally came across a link on google that explained it a bit
[12:21] <Fretegi> apparently ur right, shared memory addressing and its a good thing, now worries, thanks tho
[12:21] <linduxed> mzz: jrib: the command is correct (mpc next) and if i bind it to something "non-XF86......" then it works
[12:22] <jrib> linduxed: ok, but that's not really what I said to do is it?
[12:22] <mzz> linduxed: that's very weird (you are binding by simply hitting that key, right?)
[12:22] <mzz> jrib: no, it's what I said to do. Sorry about that :)
[12:22] <linduxed> jrib: will check then
[12:22] <zzz> is there any command to know the nameserver ip address ?
[12:22] <Fretegi> is there a difference between ubuntu and ubuntu server?
[12:22] <mzz> linduxed: it's possible some running media player eats the key, but I don't understand why the keybinding manager still does pick it up
[12:22] <jrib> zzz: cat /etc/resolv.conf, there may be a better way...
[12:22] <zxd> Hi
[12:23] <zxd> Hi I am looking for a  DHCP plugin for ppp
[12:23] <mzz> Fretegi: only in the default package set. You can convert one to the other post-install, I'm pretty sure.
[12:23] <jrib> mzz: that's a good guess
[12:23] <linduxed> mzz: yupp
[12:24] <gleeb_> hey guys good afternoon... i got some simple question about ls command if someone can help me :)
[12:24] <mzz> gleeb_: just ask
[12:24] <gleeb_> thnaks
[12:24] <gleeb_> gimmi a sec to write :)
[12:24] <zzz> jrib, it's not displaying anything if i type cat /etc/resolve.conf
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:25] <jrib> zzz: because that's not what I told you to type
[12:25] <Fretegi> odd, system monitor says intrepid, which i thougth i had, then my xorg.0.log says kernel 2.6.24-15 server
[12:25] <Fretegi> that normal
[12:25] <Fretegi> ?
[12:25] <linduxed> jrib: ok xev does pick it up (the XF86 keys in question have keycodes and keysyms), how do i set the "the key to that keysym using xmodmap"?
[12:25] <gleeb_> when i do ls -l i get alot of information... if i add the -s attribute (which says that it gives me the size in blocks) i get another colums in the start with nubers that dont really match the "size in blocks they say" i can paste it if you would like to see
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> Fretegi: what does: lsb_release -c    say?
[12:25] <jrib> linduxed: you don't have to if xev shows that, I think mzz is right
[12:25] <linduxed> mzz: nope, no media player eating keys now
[12:25] <zzz> jrib, i did this cat /etc/resolv.conf  nothing happens
[12:26] <Morteza_K> hi,anyone can help me to make my wireless driver?make[1]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.28-13-generic/pwd/Makefile'.  Stop
[12:26] <jrib> linduxed: check for daemons/music players, kill them, see if it then works
[12:26] <jrib> zzz: really?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> gleeb_: sure: install pastebinit then pipe the output to pastebinit
[12:26] <Fretegi> just plain old intrepid, nice command, makin note of that one thanks
[12:26] <lat_> Hi everyone!
[12:26] <mzz> jrib: if that's it I really don't understand why the keybinding editor still sees the key
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> gleeb_: e.g.   ls -ls | pastebinit
[12:26] <linduxed> jrib: mzz: the only musicplayer that could eat the keys would be rhythmbox, and its not even on
[12:27] <Morteza_K> hi anyone can help me to make wireless driver?
[12:27] <gleeb_> ls -ls > example.txt?
[12:27] <painted> anyone wanna play yandere game?
[12:27] <gleeb_> wont be better?
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Morteza_K: is it internal or usb?
[12:27] <Fretegi> make a driver? folks in here do that?
[12:27] <Morteza_K> internal
[12:27] <zzz> jrib, yes, there is nothing in /etc/resolv.conf
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> gleeb_: if you want, you are only going to paste bin the file so why not cut out the middle man
[12:27] <jrib> zzz: are you able to resolve domain names anyway?
[12:28] <lat_> I have a printer driver I can't delete. Is there a solution
[12:28] <gleeb_> sorry for the ignorance but what do you mean by "pasr bin"
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> gleeb_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit;  ls -ls > ~/example.txt; pastebinit ~/example.txt; rm ~/example.txt
[12:28] <gleeb_> "past bin" sorry
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> gleeb_: well you dont paste huge swathes of text in irc rooms
[12:28] <Morteza_K> ActionParsnip: actually it is an make error ,i did it before with a patch,but i cant now,cant find the patch
[12:29] <gleeb_> i know... i'll just check it out see what i get :)
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> gleeb_: so you use a pastebin, you can then fill the page with text and give us a very small link
[12:29] <zzz> jrib, no
[12:29] <gleeb_> ohhh ok
[12:29] <gleeb_> 1 sec then
[12:29] <jrib> zzz: ok, how are you connecting to the internet?
[12:29] <zzz> jrib, sudo pppoeconf
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> gleeb_: if everyone pasted the text for people to view it would scroll the channel like crazy and be totally useless
[12:30] <jrib> zzz: hrmm, I know nothing about that.  Does that use dhcp somehow?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> Morteza_K: then pastebin the error you get, maybe someone can advise
[12:31] <zzz> jrib, i think so ,how do you connect to internet ?
[12:31] <arand> gleeb_: dunno if it's still relevant but ls -s seems to show in KB per default
[12:31] <jrib> zzz: I use a static ip with my router
[12:31] <Morteza_K> ActionParsnip: morteza@Moris:~/wdriver$ make -C /lib/modules/2.6.28-13-generic/build M='pwd' clean
[12:31] <Morteza_K> make: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.28-13-generic'
[12:31] <Morteza_K> scripts/Makefile.clean:17: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.28-13-generic/pwd/Makefile: No such file or directory
[12:31] <Morteza_K> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.28-13-generic/pwd/Makefile'.  Stop.
[12:31] <Morteza_K> make: *** [_clean_pwd] Error 2
[12:31] <Morteza_K> make: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.28-13-generic'
[12:31] <FloodBot3> Morteza_K: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Morteza_K: i said pastebin
[12:31] <zzz> jrib, is your pc a router ?
[12:31] <jrib> zzz: no
[12:32] <zzz> jrib, is it broadband ?
[12:32] <gleeb_> http://pastebin.com/f689705e2 the first row :)
[12:32] <jrib> zzz: yes... try running the dhclient commands manually (I don't remember how exactly, but I'll look it up if you can't find it)
[12:32] <gleeb_> first column sorrt
[12:32] <gleeb_> y
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Morteza_K: imagine if say 10 people did that, the channel would be useless. Think next time
[12:33] <Morteza_K> ActionParsnip: sorry,http://paste.ubuntu.com/216176/
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> gleeb_: see what Morteza_K just did, and how it scrolled the channel  ;)
[12:33] <gleeb_> yep
[12:33] <gleeb_> i did paste mine :)
 http://pastebin.com/f689705e2 the first row :)
[12:34] <zzz> jrib, do you use System>Preferences >Network Connections to connect to internet ?
[12:34] <gleeb_> colums
[12:34] <jrib> zzz: no
[12:34] <jrib> zzz: (but you should)
[12:34] <zzz> jrib, where do you put static ip address ?
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> gleeb_: mine shows 4 for the totals as well
[12:35] <gleeb_> 1 block = 1024b?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> gleeb_: http://pastebin.com/f681c543a
[12:35] <jrib> zzz: I'm not on ubuntu atm
[12:35] <zzz> jrib, what do you mean ? aren't you in ubuntu now ?
[12:35] <arand> gleeb_: Like I said; ls -s seems to show in KB per default
[12:36] <jrib> zzz: I'm using a different distribution, but my setup is not really relevant here
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Morteza_K: the kernel source is already referenced, try just running   make clean
[12:36] <mzz> zzz: just add a wired connection, the ipv4 tab has an option to enter a static ip
[12:36] <saif> ubuntu8.1 host +geust winxp on virtual box but cant make anetwork
[12:36] <gleeb_> yep i see that
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Morteza_K: if you run:   file /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.28-13-generic
[12:36] <zzz> jrib, which distribution ,fedora ?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Morteza_K: does it say it is a folder?
[12:36] <gleeb_> thanks i guess i was wrong when i checked it out... i see my mistake now. first column is the size in kb
[12:37] <gleeb_> thanks you guys
[12:37] <Morteza_K> ActionParsnip: do u mean enter"make clean"?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> gleeb_: no worries fellah
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Morteza_K: makes sense, yes
[12:37] <zzz> mzz, where is the ip4 tab ?
[12:37] <adante> how do i install security updates only?
[12:37] <mzz> zzz: to the right :)
[12:38] <mzz> zzz: are you using jaunty?
[12:38] <Morteza_K> ActionParsnip: make: *** No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.
[12:38] <saif> :(
[12:38] <saif> who use virtual box
[12:38] <mzz> Morteza_K: that normally means you're sitting in the wrong dir
[12:38] <mzz> saif: me
[12:38] <saif> mzz : can u help me
[12:38] <lat_> When I try to delete an unused printer driver I get "403 Forbidden". Why
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> Morteza_K: have you read the install and readme files in the archive you extracted?
[12:39] <mzz> saif: lemme read scrollback
[12:39] <zzz> mzz, jaunty ,
[12:39] <diegotiller> alguem ai fala portugues?
[12:39] <zzz> mzz, to the right top ?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> lat_: are you deleting it with sudo?
[12:39] <jrib> !pt | diegotiller
[12:39] <saif> mzz :  iwant to make anetwork between ubuntu8.1 host and xp geyst
[12:39] <mzz> zzz: in the "Network connections" window make sure you're on the "Wired" tab and hit "Add"
[12:39] <Morteza_K> ActionParsnip: yes
[12:39] <mzz> zzz: the new window that appears should have an "IPv4 Settings" tab, among others
[12:40] <blackest_knight> Fretegi: well make , make install :)
[12:40] <mzz> zzz: if you switch to Method: Manual there you can manually configure ip addresses for the connection and dns
[12:40] <lat_> ActionParsnip, no. How/
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Morteza_K: where did you get the archive, i'll have a look at it
[12:41] <`dead> I tried to install it from Iso image using wubi.
[12:41]  * mzz actually thinks this network manager thing isn't terrible, even though he tends to use the cli himself so isn't quite the obvious target audience
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> lat_: just add sudo to the front of the command you are issuing and it will be removed.make sure the printer has no waiting jobs
[12:41] <`dead> It says.. Input/Output error :/
[12:41] <diegotiller> fala portugues ???
[12:41] <diegotiller> jrib
[12:41] <Morteza_K> ActionParsnip: i ask it someone in #kernel,M=$pwd instead of M='pwd',and it worked,thanks
[12:41] <mzz> saif: in what direction?
[12:41] <alfacat> eu falo
[12:41] <mzz> saif: outbound connections should just work. Inbound ones take a little more setup.
[12:41] <saif> mzz  : in both
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Morteza_K: you may want to tell the person who made the guide
[12:41] <zzz> mzz, i'm using automatic dhcp
[12:41] <jrib> diegotiller: /join #ubuntu-br
[12:41] <Fretegi> whats make make install?
[12:41] <mzz> zzz: oh, then I misunderstood the question.
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Morteza_K: so it can be updated to be correct
[12:42] <diegotiller> alfacat sabe usar as opções de rede do biglinux?
[12:42] <Fretegi> oh reference drivers?
[12:42] <mzz> saif: can the guest browse the internet?
[12:42] <zzz> mzz, i don't use broadband connection
[12:42] <saif> mzz : outbound = host to geust ?
[12:42] <saif> mzz : no
[12:42] <zzz> mzz, it's dial up connection
[12:42] <mzz> saif: weird, that should be working by default.
[12:42] <saif> mzz : i dont need internet on the guest
[12:43] <mzz> saif: the guest should be able to connect to the host and to anything the host itself can access, but by default the host and th outside world see the guest as sitting behind a NAT firewall
[12:43] <mzz> saif: the virtualbox manual covers this. What are you actually trying to do?
[12:43] <diegotiller> ai tu sabe usar as opções de rede do big linux?
[12:43] <mzz> diegotiller: english please
[12:43] <saif> mzz : i read it done every thing in it no use
[12:43] <lat_> ActionParsnip, I've been using the cups web page utility.  How do I determine what command to use from the command line/
[12:44] <mzz> saif: what are you actually trying to do? What command or app is failing?
[12:44] <saif> mzz : simply aconnection between the host and geust
[12:44] <zzz> saif, what's the problem ?
[12:44] <mzz> saif: what kind of "Connection"? ssh? netcat?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> lat_: gksudo firefox http://localhost:631
[12:44] <zzz> saif, are you using broadband conneciton ?
[12:44] <mzz> zzz: this is a virtualbox question, the entire thing's local
[12:45] <saif> mzz: no commands
[12:45] <mzz> saif: what program then?
[12:45] <saif> mzz : just the network manager
[12:45] <mzz> saif: I'm pretty sure you shouldn't need to mess with network manager on the host, and I don't think XP has a thing called network manager
[12:46] <mzz> saif: again, what are you actually trying to accomplish? Transfer files? ssh connection?
[12:46] <saif> mzz: ping is not workin
[12:46] <mzz> "a connection" is horribly vague, a net connection is a means to an end
[12:46] <mzz> saif: that's normal, see the manual.
[12:46] <saif> mzz: i want to assign static ip to host and gues t
[12:46] <Dam0> hello
[12:46] <lat_> ActionParsnip, I still get 403 Forbidden
[12:46]  * mzz gives up
[12:46] <Dam0> how do i install the system info script for xchat?
[12:47] <saif> mzz :thanx
[12:47] <mzz> saif: (re)read the manual to see what your various options are. I can't debug if you won't tell me what task you're actually trying to accomplish.
[12:47]  * mzz is assuming you're not trying to communicate between the two by morse over ping :)
[12:48] <saif> mzz : i `ll read again and comeback
[12:48] <saif> mzz : thanx
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> lat_: weird
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> lat_: is it not removable from the printer section i gnome settings
[12:50] <Dam0> ow do i install the system info script for xchat?
[12:52] <uqs_> How do I install the latest version of linux-ubuntu-modules?
[12:52] <kaveh> has anyone ever heard of installing ubuntu on one hard disc screwing up the resolution of a windows installation on a separate hard disc?
[12:53] <kaveh> a friend of mine had to reinstall his graphics drivers for windows after installing ubuntu on a second hard disc, i had not heard of this before i thought he probably did something very wrong
[12:55] <gilles> kaveh: Maybe some of his drivers were storedon the second hD
[12:55] <lat_> ActionParsnip, sudo system-config-printer does not give me a delete choice. Same with gnome settings. That is true for this one driver only. The others I can delete.
[12:56] <grue9> hi guys. i'm about to connect possibly broken hard drive into my pc. can it possibly damage mainboard?
[12:56] <Pidgin_> is there any command to exit from irc ?
[12:56] <adante> how do i apply security updates only from the command line?
[12:56] <blackest_knight> kaveh:  thats extremely unlikely the only thing which could happen is if the windows sys had c,d, and e drives and d was nuked to put ubuntu on the e drive would now be seen as d and that could confuse windows with paths being wrong
[12:56] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone tell me what is wrong with this command - sudo tune2fs -i 1m, trying to get tune2fs to check disk every month?
[12:56] <Tim183> hi all, looking for some help configuring twinvior, can someone help pleaseew with a second monit
[12:57] <arand> Pidgin_: /commands
[12:57] <arand> Pidgin_: sorry nvm
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> lat_: try a reboot with the printer not attached
[12:57] <Night-Horse> I was wondering if it's possible to capture the audio input as raw bytes, something like cat /dev/audio > rawfile ??
[12:57] <Pidgin_> nvm
[12:57] <kaveh> hmm thanks gilles and blackest, i thought it would be along the lines of what gilles said, but when i checked it wasnt like taht, blackest what youre saying may be the case ill have a look for that
[12:57] <kaveh> thank you two
[12:59] <grue9> Night-Horse, i think so. just how do you play it afterwards
[12:59] <lat_> ActionParsnip, I did. It didn't help. The driver is not for my printer. I don't know how it got installed.
[12:59] <grue9> i'm about to connect possibly broken hard drive into my pc. can it possibly damage mainboard?
[13:00] <Tim183> every time I try o configure the monitors i get either the top or the bottom panel on one screen and the other on another screen
[13:00] <Pirate_Hunter> grue9, it can possibly do "possibly"
[13:01] <Night-Horse> grue9: It won't be actually media. I have a signal with 96k frequency that i wanted to see if i could capture it on my pc directly
[13:01] <lat_> ActionParsnip, it just appeared one day, and has been causing problem ever since.
[13:01] <Tim183> I would like both panels on one screen abd the other screen to just be extra space
[13:01] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone tell me what is wrong with this command - sudo tune2fs -i 1m, trying to get tune2fs to check my hard disks every month?
[13:02] <grue9> Night-Horse, got an idea. i think you can replay it by catting it back into /dev/audio
[13:02] <uqs_> how do I install the newest version of linux-ubuntu-modules for x64?
[13:02] <grue9> 'kay, if my computer gets broken i'm blaminhg you.
[13:02] <lat_> ActionParsnip, it is not set as default printer, but is always the driver pre-selected.
[13:02] <adante> how do i apply security updates only from the command line?
[13:03] <Night-Horse> grue9: That's true, if i could forward it to the actually receiver and it recognized it then i am in the right path. :)
[13:04] <Night-Horse> grue9: Just another question. what is the difference between /dev/audio and /dev/dsp ?? Cause i have seen some acting with /dev/audio and some with /dev/dsp
[13:05] <adante> how do i apply security updates only from the command line?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> lat_: can you remove the driver with apt-get ?
[13:06] <arand> Pirate_Hunter: I'd guess you need to put down the device (/dev/sdx#) as well
[13:06] <mehdi> hi guys
[13:06] <mehdi> I need a proxi
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> adante: you woul dhave to comment out the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list that didnt relate to security   then run sudo ap-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> !proxy | mehdi
[13:07] <Pirate_Hunter> arand, thanks even knowing the man file doesn't state that *sigh*
[13:07] <adante> ActionParsnip: wow, kind of heavy handed there, ok
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> mehdi: you can use squid if you want to configure a proxy server
[13:08] <advorak> g
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> adante: its the only way I can think to do it
[13:08] <jrib> Pirate_Hunter: it does :)
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> adante: why not just install all the stuff from apt-get upgrade?
[13:08] <arand> Pirate_Hunter: well it kinda does, since the synopsis gives "device" as non-optional parameter...
[13:08] <mehdi> 2*2
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> adante: you can use apt to lock version numbers of packages you want left
[13:09] <bullgard4> Where is the contents (format) of /proc/asound/pcm described (explained)?
[13:09] <adante> ActionParsnip: it's a work server, working fine so would prefer not to fix it except where necessary :]
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> adante: good call :)
[13:10] <Besogon> I undestand when we use wpa_supplicant we should disable Wifi in NetworkManager.I've tried to star wpa_supplicant for mounth.
[13:10] <adante> ActionParsnip: mainly i'm afraid of the verbal (& maybe physical) beatings if i do break something
[13:10] <amikrop> Hello. How can I set RapidSVN not to ask me my passphrase for my SSH key each time I want to SVN update?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> adante: i wish more folks had your mentality rather than "oh a new one exists. i need it"
[13:10] <Pirate_Hunter> jrib, arand, yes it does right at the end, hmmm didnt notice it until i expanded my terminal :s
[13:10] <lat_> ActionParsnip, sorry. I don't what to type to do that.
[13:11] <Swissbite> m
[13:11] <Swissbite> exit
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> lat_: have a searc in synaptic, see what relates to your printer
[13:11] <lat_> ActionParsnip, the driver is for the Epson 285.
[13:11] <TheFunkbomb> having internet problems
[13:11] <TheFunkbomb> sorry
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> lat_: ok then search for epson, if not then I am unsure
[13:12] <lat_> ActionParsnip, I did. I see nothing there.
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> lat_: how did you install the driver?
[13:14] <lat_> ActionParsnip, I didn't install it. It just appeared one day---very irritating.
[13:15] <lat_> The correct driver was already installed.
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> lat_: I'd log a bug. If random printers are popping up then it sound like a bug to me
[13:16]  * deany `s epson sx400 all-in-1 works out the box :)
[13:17] <lat_> OkropNick, ActionParsnip , thanks. You are a great guy. You always try to help me, and usually succeed!
[13:17] <ronniehood3> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1126258&page=4 i have the same problem, but the answer is not posted :( g++: tinystr.c: No such file or directory
[13:18] <ronniehood3> tinyxml is installed
[13:18] <OkropNick> :)
[13:18] <C-S-B> and with a name like ActionParsnip, how can he go wrong?
[13:20] <hoagio> test
[13:20] <amikrop> How can I set RapidSVN not to ask me my passphrase for my SSH key each time I want to SVN update?
[13:21] <C-S-B> amikrop: maybe this is beyond my scope of knowledge but can you not use a sharedkey for auth?
[13:21] <Morteza_K> hi,can anyone help me?http://paste.ubuntu.com/216185/
[13:22] <C-S-B> Morteza_K: do you need the wl driver?
[13:23] <amikrop> C-S-B: I don't know, it probably has to do with the keyring.
[13:24] <Morteza_K> C-S-B:
[13:24] <Morteza_K> yes
[13:24] <C-S-B> what chipset are you using?
[13:24] <Morteza_K> C-S-B: bcm4312,chipset 4315
[13:25] <C-S-B> have you tried using b43 instead?
[13:25] <C-S-B> thats what i use.
[13:25] <Morteza_K> no
[13:25] <Morteza_K> C-S-B: do u have this wireless card?
[13:25] <C-S-B> supports injection and monitor mode if you like the whole wifi hackery thing.
[13:25] <C-S-B> i have a b43 chipset card.
[13:26] <Morteza_K> C-S-B: do u have a link to help me?
[13:26] <C-S-B> Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[13:27] <Morteza_K> C-S-B: i didnt test,i dont know if it work
[13:27] <C-S-B> Morteza_K: what is it you're trying to do? compile in the wl module?
[13:28] <Morteza_K> C-S-B: yes i got a driver from broadcom.com,and doing the README ,but this error occured,once i did it with a patch but i forgot that and cant find it now!
[13:29] <Pirate_Hunter> for adding users what is recommended adduser or useradd?
[13:29] <C-S-B> you shouldnt need to patch it. does it not work if you just do a modprobe wl
[13:29] <elf__> hi all
[13:30] <jrib> Pirate_Hunter: adduser
[13:31] <Pirate_Hunter> jrib, ok will go with that instead
[13:31] <C-S-B> Morteza_K: well whatever your patch did, it broke the source. could you not just modprobe wl or modprobe b43 (after intall b43-fwcutter)
[13:32] <noMaster> anybody know some program like Deamon Tools for Linux?
[13:33] <Morteza_K> C-S-B: what can i do?
[13:33] <jrib> !mount | noMaster
[13:33] <jrib> argh, sorry
[13:33] <jrib> !iso | noMaster
[13:33] <C-S-B> Morteza_K: whats does lspci -vv display about your wifi ?
[13:34] <noMaster> ok, I'll try
[13:34] <SingAlong> how do I add a path to a system path?
[13:34] <SingAlong> is there anyway to edit the $PATH variable?
[13:35] <Pirate_Hunter> jrib, weird it didnt ask me about groups hmmm or is that different command for adding users?
[13:35] <Morteza_K> C-S-B: kernel driver and kernel module are wl
[13:35] <C-S-B> and the wifi isnt working?
[13:36] <SingAlong> anybody?
[13:36] <Morteza_K> C-S-B: no
[13:37] <Gillagal> What is the best way to background a script so if I loose my connection it will finish?  Also, is there a way for me to see what it's doing when backgrounded?
[13:38] <Morteza_K> it was working first,but after update nomore,and it is so intersting that before it even doesn work first!
[13:39] <C-S-B> have you tried disabling it in hardware drivers and enabling again?
[13:39] <Morteza_K> C-S-B: yes
[13:40] <C-S-B> Morteza_K: maybe try sudo rmmod wl && sudo modprobe wl
[13:40] <C-S-B> Morteza_K: then see whats in dmesg | tail
[13:40] <mzz> Gillagal: I tend to use screen for that
[13:41] <Pirate_Hunter> I have just made a user with command adduser, however how do I add them to groups and limit the account?
[13:41] <davi> What is the sudo password in the last Ubuntu distribution?
[13:41] <grawity> davi: Sudo always asks for _your_ password.
[13:42] <davi> ah, thanks grawity
[13:42] <nuggat> .
[13:43] <L3dPlatedLinux> I was wondering about my hp lappy and if there was a way to make the wifi activate at boof with out having to pass the wifi button ( its atheros)
[13:43] <edgar402> Hallo, somehow I´ve deleted my gnome and now I hope someone can tell me how to install it from the terminal and if it´s possible.
[13:43] <grawity> edgar402: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[13:43] <grawity> ah, add sudo before it
[13:44] <edgar402> only wifi and it´s buggy.
[13:44] <Morteza_K1> C-S-B: http://paste.ubuntu.com/216214/
[13:45] <Morteza_K1> C-S-B: it seems sth is interrupting,for a while it show me wireless network but gone soon!
[13:45] <edgar402> buggy as I don´t know if it will work, is there a possiblity to do it offline.
[13:46] <Ramonster> any chance anyone knows how to setup an arcemu server on ubuntu?
[13:46] <kawuno> hi
[13:46] <MarcoPau> since I made a major upgrade under jaunty I don't have emacs command any more. I installed emacs22 and can launch it with emacs22-x, but it won't read bbdb and .Xresources rules. do you know what packages are missing?
[13:47] <kawuno> is splitting stdout and stderr to different terminal emulators is hard ?
[13:47] <kawuno> i mean with existing app via cli
[13:48] <nalys> Greetings, quick question: It doesn't really matter if I accidentally deleted the contents of my opt folder right? Since it stands for "optional"...right? 8^)
[13:48] <Pirate_Hunter> I have just made a user with command adduser, however how do I add them to groups and limit the account?
[13:48] <C-S-B> Morteza_K if you do sudo iwlist scan
[13:48] <C-S-B> Morteza_K do you get any ssids?
[13:48] <Morteza_K1> C-S-B: no:(
[13:48] <edgar402> thanks anyway
[13:48] <MindVirus> I'm looking at System Monitor. What's the difference between Free and Available? I'm looking at File Systems.
[13:49] <kaini> kawuno, that works: type into the stderr terminal tty and copy the path. In the stdout terminal enter the command with a 2> /path to your stderr terminal
[13:49] <Morteza_K1> C-S-B: yes,it now answers!
[13:49] <C-S-B> Morteza_K oh goog
[13:49] <C-S-B> *good
[13:49] <parapanghelescu> hi there is there anyone using Googlew earth 5 on Ubuntu 9.04 ??
[13:49] <kawuno> kaini, clever, thank you
[13:49] <Morteza_K1> C-S-B: but no in network manager1
[13:49] <Morteza_K1> !
[13:50] <Pirate_Hunter> anyone knows how to check groups through cli?
[13:50] <done365> Is there anyone that can help me access my old vista files from my new ubuntu install ver9.04
[13:50] <C-S-B> Morteza_K ok well can you connect to the wifi using cli?
[13:50] <Morteza_K1> C-S-B: let try
[13:51] <done365> I've mounted everything that shows up after fdisk
[13:51] <Morteza_K1> C-S-B: is it for ever?or every time i have to run those commands?
[13:51] <rubystallion> How can I hide empty folders in Nautilus?
[13:51] <C-S-B> Morteza_K im not sure, you could always try the b43 module if you wanted to?
[13:51] <MindVirus> Anyone know?
[13:51] <done365> but even with kdiskfree I am unable to use the file manager on these mounted drives
[13:52] <C-S-B> Morteza_K i have no trouble with my card, but its a 4311 not a 4312
[13:52] <guntbert> Pirate_Hunter: step 1) id <newuser> to see what is the matter
[13:52] <davi> grawity,   In Jaunty I am typing my account password to execute  "sudo ls" and it ask again to try. That is to say, it is not working!  Is it possible?
[13:53] <gabkdlly> MindVirus: not sure, but it may have to do with the 5% (or so) reserved for root on the filesystem
[13:53] <Pirate_Hunter> guntbert, nothign is the matter the user is new i just to add them to groups so they have access to audio etc but remove access to things like sudo etc
[13:53] <Morteza_K1> C-S-B: your key is WPA?
[13:53] <gabkdlly> MindVirus: available is probably what you are interested in
[13:53] <C-S-B> Morteza_K yes, Ive also used open and wep.
[13:53] <MindVirus> gabkdlly, that's a brilliant point.
[13:53] <Pirate_Hunter> guntbert, the thing is adding a user was easy its the other parts that i am finding difficult
[13:53] <MindVirus> gabkdlly, thanks.
[13:54] <C-S-B> morteza_K if you left click the nm-applet is the enable wireless box ticked?
[13:54] <gabkdlly> MindVirus: you can actually configure this at the time of partition
[13:54] <done365> If anyone could help me find the kids pictures before the wife wakes up that would be great
[13:54] <MindVirus> gabkdlly, I don't really mind -- I was just curious. They seemed like the same damn thing.
[13:54] <guntbert> Pirate_Hunter: to prevent him from using sudo remove him from the admin group
[13:54] <MindVirus> gabkdlly, now, I can't configure it?
[13:55] <guntbert> Pirate_Hunter: where he shouldn't be by default anyway :-)
[13:55] <Morteza_K1> C-S-B: no
[13:55] <ubuntufreak> Anyways to install the drivers for my ATI Mobility radeon HD 4570 in DELL Studio 15 laptop for Ubuntu 9.0
[13:55] <Morteza_K1> C-S-B: sorry yes
[13:55] <gabkdlly> MindVirus: I don't think so. Anyway, I think there are good reasons to have the 5% reserved
[13:56] <Pirate_Hunter> guntbert, yup but i dont know how to do that through cli i thought command adduser would give me these options
[13:56] <MindVirus> gabkdlly, of course.
[13:56] <MindVirus> gabkdlly, the deal is, I have a drive that is not for root at all.
[13:56] <LInux> how do i rip dvd's that are 6.7gb into avi format on ubuntu?
[13:56] <guntbert> Pirate_Hunter: is he in the admin group?
[13:56] <LInux> please and thanks
[13:57] <Morteza_K1> C-S-B: i got an ip via my wireless card
[13:57] <Pirate_Hunter> guntbert, dont know how do i check how do i list all the groups in my box?
[13:57] <deany> LInux, k9copy
[13:57] <davi> In Jaunty I am typing my account password to execute  "sudo ls" and it ask again to try. That is to say, it is not working!  Is it possible, or it is sure I am doing some typing mistake?
[13:57] <C-S-B> Morteza_K and can you ping inside your network?
[13:57] <LInux> deany:where do iget it?
[13:57] <deany> LInux, or dvdrip
[13:57] <deany> LInux, repo
[13:58] <LInux> ''dvdrip''? thats the name for it
[13:58] <guntbert> Pirate_Hunter: thats what id is for :-), try id <user> and look for (admin) in groups
[13:58] <MindVirus> For some reason, pulseaudio is not starting with my session. Should I add it to Startup Applications?
[13:58] <nalys> Greetings, quick question: It doesn't really matter if I accidentally deleted the contents of my opt folder right? Since it stands for "optional"...right?... Yes or no would suffice...thanks...
[13:58] <Morteza_K1> C-S-B: command line
[13:58] <Morteza_K1> C-S-B: i restart,will coma back
[13:58] <deany> LInux, yes.
[13:59] <LInux> oh i found it thanks
[13:59] <done365> Should an install of Ubuntu delete all of my windows user files
[13:59] <deany> LInux, I prefer k9copy, seems more advanced, more options.. tho thats not always a good thing :)
[13:59] <LInux> lol but what adoubt acid dvdripped?
[14:00] <Pirate_Hunter> guntbert, ooooh id is handy nope not in root still would i be able to log into my account through that account if i needed to do something in root without being forced to logout
[14:00] <done365> I checked the wiki's before making the switch and they all said no, but the baby pics are gone...I think
[14:00] <attorianzo> Hi all, is there any menu or preferences file for ubuntu segnalations? I mean that dark squares up-right of the screen..
[14:01] <guntbert> Pirate_Hunter: sorry, your last statement didn't make sense to me, there are several groups, one of the is admin, another is audio
[14:02] <triplc> Hi all. Can I use Unbuntu 32 bit on a 4GB RAM computer? Currently feel that I cannot because "free -m" does not show 4G. :-(
[14:02] <C-S-B> done365: if you go to /media/ is there a mounted filesystem?
[14:02] <LInux> deany:can i use k9 copy to rip a 6.7gb dvd into x3, 700mb avi files (that cant be burnt)?
[14:02] <guntbert> *one of them is
[14:03] <deany> LInux, yes
[14:03] <LInux> is it simple??
[14:03] <done365> C-S-B: I can see the drive in kdiskfree, but cant navigate it in file manager
[14:03] <Pirate_Hunter> guntbert, what i meant is i aint in root but if i ever need to use root access could i do it through that account either by using sudo -u [user with root access]
[14:03] <deany> LInux, depends on your knowledge
[14:03] <LInux> how do i make it avi it dooesnt give me the option
[14:03] <MindVirus> Any suggestions, anyone?
[14:03] <deany> LInux, its a gui, so is simple enough..
[14:03] <MindVirus> For some reason, pulseaudio is not starting with my session. Should I add it to Startup Applications?
[14:03] <done365> C-S-B: it also will not let me do a cd to get to it in the terminal
[14:03] <triplc> Hi all. Can I use Unbuntu 32 bit on a 4GB RAM computer? Currently feel that I cannot because "free -m" does not show 4G. :-( ----- Must I have to use Ubuntu 64bit ???
[14:04] <deany> LInux, it has a "Wizard" too
[14:04] <mobi-sheep> triplc: Hating 64-bit?
[14:04] <LInux> were do i find the magician/wizard
[14:05] <triplc> mobi-sheep: no hate. I just have 32-bit installation disk in hand.
[14:05] <mobi-sheep> triplc: The easiest solution would be using 64bit if your machine are capable of it.  Or install server/PAE kernel.
[14:05] <edgar207> I have only w-lan which i´m not able to use from the terminal-only, I´ve deleted my gnome somehow, and no I´m searching for someone who can tell me how to install it from the terminal.
[14:05] <LInux> also u no in windows...that thing when u right click and it says ''refresh'' were do i find this on ubuntu??
[14:06] <mobi-sheep> triplc: Issues about 32bit memory addresses.
[14:06] <mobi-sheep> triplc: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-4gb-ram-limitation-solution/
[14:06] <triplc> mobi-sheep: Oh.   I'll get you link.
[14:07] <Pirate_Hunter> guntbert, thats what i needed to know, I aint too sure which groups to add my new user to, audio, disk etc are fairly simple but what about daemons would users need access to that?
[14:08] <ubuntufreak> mobi-sheep: yeah sure
[14:08] <edgar207> is there a possiblity to install gnome from the terminal in offline mode?
[14:08] <ikonia> edgar207: not without a cd
[14:08] <mobi-sheep> ubuntufreak, triplc: If you're running 32bit when your machine is 64-bit capable.  You're just robbing the half of the treads.  There are 64bit treads in 64bit-processors and you'd be only using half of it.   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit
[14:08] <edgar207> and with cd
[14:09] <ikonia> edgar207: then yes
[14:09] <gabkdlly> MindVirus: if, for example, you have a 1TB drive dedicated to /home/, or so, you can probably allocate less than 5% to root
[14:09] <oskar-> ubuntufreak:  64 instead of 32 bit word width, which means more addressable memory, but: larger executables, less efficient cache usage, slower execution of the same programs
[14:09] <MindVirus> gabkdlly, I have an 80GB drive dedicated to being my ~/Downloads folder.
[14:10] <guntbert> Pirate_Hunter: I suppose the most important groups are already there - but to add more groups you have two ways: user chmod (look at the man page) OR edit /etc/groups (each group has the accounts listed which are mebers of it)
[14:10] <gabkdlly> MindVirus: keep in mind, though, that if you go with 0%, and your drive fills up, there will be a lot fragmentation, which will affect read/write times
[14:10] <cemc> I have Juanty running with dual head and gnome, with two screens :0.0 and :0.1 (no xinerama). why do windows keep appearing on the first display even when I start them on the second?
[14:10] <cemc> it used to work
[14:10] <ubuntufreak> oskar: if i install a 64-bit os, is it possible to install apps as in 32-bit one ?
[14:10] <MindVirus> gabkdlly, good point, again.
[14:10] <edgar207> and how do I install it with the CD
[14:11] <ikonia> edgar207: just enable the cd as repo in system->administration->software sources and install it as normal
[14:11] <oskar-> ubuntufreak:  i have not yet used a 64 bit os
[14:11] <ubuntufreak> oskar: ok
[14:11] <edgar207> I only have Terminal (secure-mode)
[14:11] <ikonia> edgar207: then enable the cd in /etc/apt/sources.list and install as normal
[14:12] <mobi-sheep> !away | gabkdlly-afk
[14:12] <mobi-sheep> !away > gabkdlly-afk
[14:12] <Pirate_Hunter> guntbert ok
[14:13] <edgar207> what exactly do enable CD in ... and "how do I normaly install"?
[14:13] <ikonia> edgar207: do you know how to install packages using apt-get ?
[14:13] <edgar207> not really
[14:13] <guntbert> Pirate_Hunter: just make *certain* NOT to remove pirate_h from the admin group!!! CAUTION
[14:13] <ikonia> edgar207: how did you remove gnome ?
[14:14] <C-S-B> Morteza_K: Im not sure what to suggest just yet, eating dinner atm
[14:14] <Pirate_Hunter> guntbert, dont think ill be doing that anytime soon errh even if im running as root
[14:14] <edgar207> somehow in synaptic I think
[14:14] <edgar207> "It was gone"
[14:14] <Morteza_K> C-S-B: thanks a lot
[14:14] <edgar207> after I Install some Stuff
[14:15] <edgar207> Installed
[14:15] <Morteza_K> C-S-B: have a good time
[14:15] <ikonia> edgar207: if you look in /etc/apt/sources.list at the top you should see a line that says something like "
[14:15] <guntbert> !root | Pirate_Hunter
[14:15] <ikonia> edgar207: something like "#deb cdrom:[ubuntu 9.04 blah blah"
[14:15] <guntbert> Pirate_Hunter: don't "run as root", its not necessary
[14:15] <ikonia> edgar207: do you see that line ?
[14:15] <done365> nice matrix ref ubotto
[14:16] <done365> ubottu
[14:16] <TwoToneSpirit> What does failsafe gnome do differently from regular gnome?  Suddenly I can only login with failsafe.
[14:16] <edgar207> At the moment I´m in windows
[14:16] <Pirate_Hunter> guntbert, yup i know but it became frustrating deleting 8.04 desktop packages to get server only that i had
[14:16] <ikonia> edgar207: ok - well, find that line, remove the "#" symbol from the line, do "sudo apt-get update" , then do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[14:17] <edgar207> how do I edit the sourcelist
[14:17] <ikonia> edgar207: any text editor you are comfortable with
[14:17] <guntbert> Pirate_Hunter: its ok with me, as long as you are aware of the risks...
[14:17] <edgar207> never used one before
[14:17] <grawity> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:17] <guntbert> done365: ubottu is a bot :-)
[14:17] <edgar207> ed ist one, right?
[14:17] <ikonia> edgar207: before you try then I suggest you read up on a simple editor like "nano" as grawity suggested
[14:18] <grawity> I really wouldn't recommend ever trying ed.
[14:18] <Pirate_Hunter> guntbert, oh yeah definitely
[14:18] <guntbert> Pirate_Hunter: ;-)
[14:18] <grawity> edgar207: nano is the easiest. (the most popular ones are vim and emacs, but they aren't installed by default, and they aren't that easy to use)
[14:19] <edgar207> thanks a lot.
[14:21] <shivek> Hi everyone
[14:22] <shivek> I've just downloaded a package. Its something related to icon appearance(mashup..something) can anyone tell how to install it ??
[14:22] <ikonia> shivek: what is the package name
[14:23] <C-S-B> Morteza_K: ok, back for the moment
[14:24] <supersasho> hello.. is there a gui application for managing ftpserver, something like filezilla server?
[14:24] <shivek> ikonia: its "[ubuntu.hamdi.web.id]-Mashup-MaXo1.1.tar.gz"
[14:24] <ikonia> shivek: that's not a package, thats a tar file
[14:24] <shivek> ikonia:whatever
[14:24] <ikonia> shivek: if you untar it (think zip file) you'll normally find install instructions inside it in a README file
[14:25] <ikonia> shivek: it's quite important that's it's not a package so not "whatever" - if you don't think it matters, get on with installing it
[14:25] <ForzaPalermo> hey guys should checking for bad blcoks (read only test) take days to finish?
[14:25] <ForzaPalermo> im at 1.73% done and 15 hours have elapsed
[14:25] <shivek> ok Its not "whatever" I'm sorry
[14:25] <ikonia> ForzaPalermo: wow that is slow, is it still going up
[14:25] <ikonia> shivek: what ever
[14:25] <ForzaPalermo> yes
[14:25] <ForzaPalermo> but takes forever
[14:25] <done365> I finally got the area I thought contained the lost files to mount using "gksudo ntfs-config" but it shows up empty.
[14:25] <ForzaPalermo> i have a 500GB drive
[14:26] <ikonia> ForzaPalermo: ride it out then, that is very very slow though
[14:26] <shivek> Ikonia: hhh
[14:26] <shivek> !
[14:26] <siwy033> :)
[14:26] <ForzaPalermo> problem is that ive ben getting errors with that drive, and i can no longer access the files, though i can see them
[14:26] <ForzaPalermo> hddr errors i think
[14:27] <ForzaPalermo> EVERYTHING is on that drive, and i really need to retain it
[14:27] <ikonia> ForzaPalermo: not much can be done if the drive has errors then
[14:27] <Setzua> Bonjour
[14:27] <ikonia> ForzaPalermo: take backups to prevent this happening in the future
[14:27] <syrinx> hi all
[14:27] <mariuszk> is someone from poland in here ??
[14:27] <ForzaPalermo> i kow bt i have stuff i NEED to retrieve
[14:27] <ForzaPalermo> its not an old hard drive
[14:27] <ForzaPalermo> just like 1 year
[14:27] <ikonia> ForzaPalermo: if the drive is bad it maybe lost, contact drive recovery specialists
[14:27] <shivek> ikonia: it was a simple theme file. And don't use .zip thing. I hate Microsloth Windows
[14:27] <ForzaPalermo> i think it just has bad sectors
[14:27] <ikonia> ForzaPalermo: the time doesn't make a difference
[14:28] <ikonia> shivek: how much you like/dislike microsoft windows has nothing to do with anything
[14:28] <syrinx> Has anyone been able to get Firefox 3.5 yet through the repositories?
[14:28] <ikonia> shivek: a lot of people have pulled it down
[14:28] <ikonia> shivek: sorry - not you
[14:28] <ikonia> syrinx: a lot of people have pulled it down
[14:28] <Pirate_Hunter> is there a command to check what users are in a group instead of checking the groups that a user is in?
[14:28] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: id $user
[14:29] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: or use the user admin gui
[14:29] <syrinx> thanks ikonia... I've been waiting for the update mgr to say it's available
[14:29] <shivek> but .zip is a wndows format I suppose. !
[14:29] <ikonia> shivek: it's not a zip file
[14:29] <C-S-B> probably install via the theme menu
[14:29] <ikonia> shivek: I told you what type of file it is and you said "what ever" so therefore - do your own research
[14:29] <Tenkawa> Anyone seen a kernel module for this pci:id yet?
[14:29] <Tenkawa> 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. Device 1062 (rev c0)
[14:29] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia, that shows the groups a user is in, what i want is to just choose a group and check the user that belong to that group instead of the other way around
[14:29] <shivek> ikonia:But you said think it as its a zip file.
[14:29] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia, server no gui
[14:29] <ikonia> shivek: no I didn't
[14:29] <done365> ikonia: perhaps you can help me find these files, your help would be greatly appreciated
[14:30] <ikonia> done365: what files ?
[14:30] <shivek> ikonia: hey you did!
[14:30] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: look at /etc/group
[14:30]  * Tenkawa checks google hit on ubuntuforums
[14:30] <ikonia> shivek: no, re-read what I said
[14:30] <ikonia> Tenkawa: don't need pointless noise in the channel please.
[14:30] <done365> ikonia: when I installed 9.04 on a machine that was vista most of my data is gone
[14:30] <mobi-sheep> ForzaPalermo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery -- As ikonia suggested, start making backups.  You never know the HDD could die out anytime now.
[14:31] <shivek> ikonia: look here  [<ikonia> shivek: if you untar it (think zip file) you'll normally find install instructions inside it in a README file]
[14:31] <ikonia> done365: is your vista partition still there
[14:31] <ikonia> shivek: the line before I told you it was a tar file
[14:31] <shivek> ikonia: 9think zip file) ??
[14:31] <ikonia> shivek: and to be exact it's a compressed tar file
[14:31] <ikonia> shivek: best of luck
[14:31] <shivek> ikonia:yes you're right.
[14:32] <noobe> hi
[14:32] <shivek> Bye Bye eveyone  Good Luck  Happy Linux ""D
[14:32] <done365> ikonia: that is what I am having difficulty determining.  The partition had 2 windows installs, as one had failed.  the old one windows.old is gone, but the new one windows is there(somewhat)
[14:33] <ikonia> done365: is the windows partition there, yes/no
[14:33] <ikonia> done365: open gparted and see if you have a windows partition
[14:34] <noobe> can anyone help me ? I would like to generate a list of installed packages (this I already made )   ,  and redownload the packages I have installed from that list.  Just download
[14:34] <izibi> how can i change the audio settings for empathy?
[14:34] <ikonia> noobe: dpkg -l generates the list, then do a while loop to apt-get them on the next install
[14:35] <noobe> ikonia but that way they will install again .... :(
[14:35] <noobe> I would just like to download them
[14:35] <noobe> ikonia I would just like to download them
[14:37] <mobi-sheep> !clone | noobe
[14:37] <arand> noobe: apt-get install -d
[14:39] <done365> ikonia: three on one drive, but none shown on the drive that it was on
[14:40] <noobe> tnks guys.   I'm going to study those comands
[14:41] <tonsofpcs> what is the "home screen" on jaunty jackalope netbook remix?
[14:41] <tonsofpcs> [what app?]
[14:42] <ikonia> done365: what are you talking about 3 on one drive but doesn't show on the drive it was on
[14:42] <ikonia> done365: I'll ask again. "Are there any windows partitions on the drive"
[14:43] <ubuntu> how to activate java script?
[14:43] <SuperMiguel> enable java
[14:43] <ikonia> ubuntu: you need to install the java plugin
[14:43] <ikonia> !java
[14:43] <ubuntu> tnx
[14:44] <ubuntu> how to get a driver of my a4tech cam???
[14:44] <oskar-> javascript and java have nothing in common
[14:44] <ikonia> that's very true
[14:45] <ikonia> I assumed he actually meant java - as java script is enabled by default
[14:45] <oskar-> ok
[14:45] <ubuntu> is there a camera compatible in linux
[14:45] <done365> Ikonia: no...two hard drives had a total of four windows installs on them I see one, have some data from another, am given the option to boot a third on restart.  But the fourth and most valuable seems to be completely gone.  No, there are no windows partitions on the drive where the data was located.  but I have data from another partition that was located on the same drive.
[14:45] <mikka> hello please i have a problem.I want to know what's my fileysystem.Is it NTFS,EXT2 or EXT3?How can i do that?
[14:45] <grawity> mikka: type 'mount'
[14:45] <SuperMiguel> fdisk -l
[14:46] <mikka> okay
[14:46] <ikonia> done365: I can only assume that you lost this when you partitioned your drive for ubuntu then
[14:46] <ikonia> mikka: it will be ext3
[14:46] <ikonia> mikka: most likley
[14:46] <ikonia> SuperMiguel: fdisk won't show a file system
[14:46] <mikka> nothing
[14:46] <oskar-> ubuntu:  there are many. afaik, it mostly depends on the camera chip, that has to be supported
[14:47] <mikka> i did not see nothing
[14:47] <ikonia> mikka: pastebin the output of mount
[14:47] <mikka> i'm using ubuntu and not windows xp
[14:47] <ikonia> !pastebin > mikka
[14:47] <done365> ikonia: I thought that was not suppossed to happen?
[14:47] <ikonia> done365: depends how you tell it to partition
[14:47] <oskar-> ubuntu:  there are hardware databases on the web, where you can see, what cameras are likely to work with linux
[14:47] <done365> any chance of recovery
[14:47] <mikka> please i'm new.What must i tape on Terminal?
[14:47] <ikonia> done365: doubtful
[14:48] <ikonia> mikka: how can you not know what to type when you just said you tried it and saw nothing
[14:48] <ikonia> respecting: what did you type before when you saw nothing ?
[14:48] <respecting> fdisk -l
[14:48] <respecting> i have taped fdisk -l
[14:48] <ikonia> respecting: ok - type "mount"
[14:48] <napzter> hello
[14:48] <dude_> I saw what you did there!!
[14:48] <SuperMiguel> ikonia, yes it will..
[14:49] <napzter> Guys...... do u know where can I join GIMP in IRC?
[14:49] <ikonia> SuperMiguel: no it won't, it will show partition types
[14:49] <ikonia> napzter: this is ubuntu support read the gimp website
[14:49] <respecting> /dev/sd5 is EXT2
[14:49] <respecting> /dev/sda5 is EXT2
[14:49] <SuperMiguel> ikonia, it will say system... if it is ext will be linux, if it is ufs will say freeebsd and if it is ntfs/fat will say windows
[14:49] <respecting> is that mean that my file system is EXT2.?
[14:50] <ikonia> SuperMiguel: that is not a file system - that is a partition type
[14:50] <SuperMiguel> ikonia, but thye match anyways
[14:50] <ikonia> SuperMiguel: no they don't
[14:50] <respecting> I think it's EXT2 because i have read /dev/stda5 is ext2
[14:50] <respecting> Thank you ikonia
[14:50] <ikonia> SuperMiguel: mine say "linux" but I'm using xfs
[14:50] <ikonia> respecting: correct
[14:50] <respecting> thank you very very much
[14:50] <respecting> :)
[14:51] <respecting> Enjoy your day brother
[14:51] <watson516> Would anyone be able to help me out with an Nvidia driver installation?
[14:51] <done365> ikonia: thank you, had to take a small profanity break
[14:51] <arand> watson516: state the problem
[14:52] <watson516> arand: Thanks. I have tried to use the Hardware Drivers tool in the system->admin but that doesn't work...doesn't error, just doesn't work
[14:53] <watson516> arand: I tried to manually download a .run file from nvidia which I am just about positive is the correct one for me, stopped gdm and attempted installation...it worked but after restart it errored
[14:53] <whadar> why RAID 3 write operation works without prior read and RAID 5 doesn't (all the blocks in the stripe are read before each write)
[14:53] <thomask_> Hi all, I'm trying to set up my synaptics trackpad on a fresh 9.04 install, and I'm having trouble getting the FDI policies to run. I initially tried to set up the whole trackpad, and now am just aiming for turning on shared memory at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#shmconfig but despite reboots/logouts/gdm restarts it seems to be ignored
[14:54] <thomask_> Does anyone have any suggestions for how to check if the policy files are being used, or what I might have missed, other than putting them in /etc/hal/fdi/policy?
[14:54] <arand> watson516: what kinds or errors? Does /var/log/Xorg.0.log show anything related?
[14:55] <watson516> arand: the Xorg.0.log file is roughly 200 lines long and I have no idea what any of it means
[14:56] <legend2440> watson516: which nvidia card you have?
[14:56] <watson516> arand: the error was something along the lines of the header module couldn't be found (nvidia created it I think...during installation)
[14:56] <watson516> legend2440: Geforce something Go
[14:56] <arand> watson516: look for messsages prepended by (EE) talking about nvidia.
[14:57] <arand> watson516: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[14:57] <thomask_> 4
[14:58] <watson516> arand: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[14:58] <respecting> Please i'm posting here because guys from C don't want to listen to me.I'm a newbee at C Programmation language and i want an IDE to start developp Opengl programs under Ubuntu.Any good IDE please
[14:59] <Ramonster> I got a problem with phpmyadmin. I got phpmyadmin in /var/www/ now but if I try to login its gives the error: #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)
[15:00] <soreau> respecting: geany is one
[15:00] <mobi-sheep> !ide | respecting
[15:00] <soreau> watson516: Your drivers aren't installed correctly, how do you install them?
[15:00] <soreau> s/do/did
[15:00] <Ramonster> synaptic?
[15:00] <arand> watson516: ok, so the driver was not able to install correctly...
[15:01] <Ramonster> I got a problem with phpmyadmin. I got phpmyadmin in /var/www/ now but if I try to login its gives the error: #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)
[15:01] <arand> watson516: When installing manually from *.run do you get errors similar to the last section of this question: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/+question/59795
[15:02] <JestemPierwszyRa> hello evrybody, sameone speak polish here?
[15:02] <mobi-sheep> JestemPierwszyRa: You tried polish channel?
[15:03] <tonsofpcs> not really, but i think there's a polish channel for ubuntu... #ubuntu-pl or -po maybe?
[15:03] <soreau> watson516: You probably want to make sure linux-headers package for your kernel is installed before attempting the nvidia driver installer (.run)
[15:03] <mobi-sheep> !poland | JestemPierwszyRa
[15:03] <watson516> arand: I got no errored during installation of the driver (except that it couldn't connect to the internet to download the header module...or something along those lines)
[15:03] <tonsofpcs> meep.
[15:03] <JestemPierwszyRa> thank you tonsofpcs
[15:03] <Ramonster> I got a problem with phpmyadmin. I got phpmyadmin in /var/www/ now but if I try to login its gives the error: #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)
[15:04] <watson516> soreau: I did.... apt-get install linux-headers-common and it installed fine
[15:04] <arand> watson516: did it succed in compiling it by itself after that?
[15:04] <damagednoob> Ramonster, is your mysql server up?
[15:04] <watson516> arand: yes
[15:04] <heroid> the real truth about WindowsWWIIsta http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/6085/windowsvistalogowallpap.jpg
[15:04] <Ramonster> damagednoob: yes
[15:04] <damagednoob> what port is it on?
[15:05] <soreau> watson516: Do you have a working internet connection on the box you're trying to install the driver?
[15:06] <mehdi> animation
[15:06] <watson516> soreau: yes, but I booted up to the recovery tool and then dropped to shell because when I did /etc/init.d/gdm stop it appeared to not be doing anything (I forget what it was working on but I waited about 5 minutes)
[15:06] <arand> soreau: watson516 if installing from the *.run file you won't need it anyways, something else is awry... And I'm not sure I got any idea what...
[15:07] <mehdi> where is animation in ubuntu 9.4
[15:07] <watson516> arand: I have installed it about a year ago on an older version of ubuntu with no troubles
[15:07] <tonsofpcs> what app runs the "home screen" in netbook remix?
[15:07] <arand> mehdi: animation?
[15:07] <mehdi> ya
[15:07] <soreau> watson516: Did you change the Driver in the Device section to "nvidia" in xorg.conf?
[15:08] <mehdi> animation add on
[15:08] <watson516> soreau: I dont want to sound like an idiot, but where do I find that file?
[15:08] <soreau> watson516: /etc/X11
[15:09] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me identify the problem, i just followed this tutorial on setting up bind9 but it wont startup, http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu8.04-lts-p4, under heading DNS server?
[15:09] <watson516> soreau: I was on here last night and a guy told me to add driver "nvidia" to some file but it didn't work
[15:09] <arand> mehdi: whathowwhen?? Animation add-on for what?
[15:09] <phix> hi
[15:09] <arand> watson516: What does "lspci | grep VGA" give you?
[15:09] <mehdi> for insert effect on windows ubuntu
[15:10] <tonsofpcs> windows ubuntu?
[15:10] <tonsofpcs> compiz fusion?
[15:10] <watson516> arand: 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 [Geforce 6150 Go] (rev a2)
[15:10] <watson516> soreau: thats the file he told me to add the driver line to
[15:10] <U2GB> Pirate_Hunter, ask your question on #ubuntu-server
[15:10] <watson516> soreau: its not there anymore though
[15:11] <mehdi> yes windows ubunto
[15:11] <soreau> watson516: Well it needs to be. Add the following to the Device section of xorg.conf: Driver "nvidia"
[15:11] <[Ramy]> planet.ubuntu is not updated since 9th of July is there any problem there ?
[15:12] <mehdi> add effect on desktop manegment
[15:12] <soreau> watson516: Alternatively for a failsafe session without direct rendering, you can use "nv" or even "vesa" if you just want to start X
[15:12] <_Space_Case_> question? anybody use there computer to watch DTV, the new digital format... any of the usb tv tuner's work in linux?
[15:12] <soreau> mehdi: System>Preferences>Appearance>Visual Effects tab>Extra
[15:12] <_Space_Case_> or tv tuner cards
[15:12] <watson516> soreau: Ok, thanks...I added the line to the xorg.conf
[15:12] <C-S-B> _Space_Case_: theres been alot of dev in the kernel relating to this stuff, check video4linux
[15:12] <soreau> watson516: Now make sure to save the file and reboot
[15:12] <mehdi> add effect on desktop manegmen.exampel fire
[15:13] <napzter> hi guys is there such room for Script-Fu users?
[15:13] <uqs> could someone help me with this? :S http://paste.ubuntu.com/216247/
[15:13] <watson516> soreau: Ok, I may be back...
[15:13] <watson516> Thanks everyone
[15:13] <mehdi> add effect on desktop manegmen.exampel fire
[15:14] <soreau> uqs: Looks like it's trying to probe a module not compatible with your kernel
[15:14] <mehdi> how can I add effect on desktop manegmen
[15:14] <uqs> soreau, so there is no way to install those drivers? :/
[15:14] <soreau> mehdi: In your terminal 'ccsm'
[15:14] <soreau> uqs: There may be, but I have no idea what you're trying to do exactly
[15:15] <parapanghelescu> so' is there anyone using google earth on ubuntu ?
[15:15] <uqs> soreau, I'm trying to install some x-fi drivers from creative. make works finde but make install gives me that error message
[15:15] <soreau> uqs: Before running sudo make install, you should do: make clean && make
[15:15] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | parapanghelescu
[15:16] <uqs> soreau, still get the same problem
[15:16] <soreau> uqs: make clean && make should give a different error if any.. pastebin it
[15:17] <linux> kjg
[15:17] <linux> uigkfukgfutáý
[15:17] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me identify the problem, i just followed this tutorial on setting up bind9 but it wont startup, http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu8.04-lts-p4, under heading DNS server?
[15:17] <parapanghelescu> I have installed google earth on ubuntu 9.04; program works fine, but when I want to see pictures from different locations the display area is blinking few times ...showing the pictures for 0,5 secs and then the display area is white
[15:18] <gaz> hi when downloading large files via wireless in ubuntu hardy my connection seems to drop off without actually disconnecting and i have to manually force it to reconnect anyone else experienced similar issues?
[15:18] <uqs> soreau, http://paste.ubuntu.com/216257/
[15:18] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone here please help me understand the problem i have pasted the output of syslog, http://paste.ubuntu.com/216255/
[15:18] <bullgard4> Where is described (explained) the file format of proc/asound/pcm?
[15:19] <watson516> soreau: When I restarted, it went to a black screen and stopped doing anything
[15:19] <gaz> apologies i mean jaunty
[15:19] <SuperMiguel> http://pastebin.ca/1492748
[15:19] <bullgard4> Pirate_Hunter: I cannot find your question there.
[15:20] <soreau> uqs: That's the same pastebin as before
[15:20] <homovitruvius> which channel would be best for metacity help?
[15:20] <SuperMiguel> #metacity :)
[15:21] <soreau> watson516: Hardware Drivers (jockey) should have installed the driver for you but now that you're manually installing no telling what it's doing. Use Driver "nv" in xorg.conf to get into a 'failsafe' X session so you can easier fix it
[15:21] <homovitruvius> yep, I've founded that one by going there this morning, but it seems like it would be only me. Is there a real metacity channel on freenode?
[15:21] <uqs> soreau, no it's a different one. I tried a second time with make clean && make and I get the same result still
[15:22] <Pirate_Hunter> bullgard4, can someone help me identify the problem, i just followed this tutorial on setting up bind9 but it wont startup, http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu8.04-lts-p4, under heading DNS server?
[15:22] <watson516> soreau: Ok
[15:22] <soreau> uqs: Yes, but did make succeed?
[15:23] <uqs> soreau, no. got the same error as before :/
[15:23] <soreau> uqs: Can you pastebin the output of 'make clean && make'?
[15:24] <tim__> hello
[15:24] <johnw> hi...i need codec for ubuntu 9.10, for youtube, and more internet video...thanks:-)
[15:25] <uqs> soreau, sure, here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/216262/
[15:25] <soreau> johnw: Install flashplugin-nonfree package
[15:25] <soreau> uqs: What does 'uname -r' say?
[15:25] <mobi-sheep> Pirate_Hunter: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[15:25] <tim__> kernel info
[15:26] <uqs> soreau, 2.6.28-13-generic
[15:26] <der_On> hello again. Does anybody know why I can't save any settings in any application? Seems like it has something to do with permissions.
[15:27] <soreau> uqs: I must say, I don't think it's standard for make to try and probe a module while installing it.. does 'sudo insmod /lib/modules/2.6.28-13-generic/kernel/drivers/ssound/ctxfi.ko' give the same error?
[15:28] <legend2440> Pirate_Hunter: looks like permissions problem did you use sudo with the command?
[15:28] <noMaster> I have ISO image in /home directory. How to mount it and use for Wine?
[15:28] <uqs> soreau, http://paste.ubuntu.com/216263/
[15:28] <parapanghelescu> I have installed google earth on ubuntu 9.04; program works fine, but when I want to see pictures from different locations the display area is blinking few times ...showing the pictures for 0,5 secs and then the display area is white
[15:28] <Pirate_Hunter> legend2440: yeah i did, why?
[15:29] <soreau> der_On: It's probably because your home folder is owned by root. This should fix it: sudo chown $LOGNAME -R ~/
[15:29] <janwil> hi all ... I just upgraded 8.04 to 8.10 and now I can get no network connections working :( any ideas what might have gone wrong?
[15:29] <der_On> legend2440: was that directed to me or Pirate_Hunter?
[15:29] <janwil> the box is ThinkPad T42
[15:29] <der_On> soreau: ah tanks. will try that right now
[15:29] <soreau> uqs: Then something's wrong with the source to the package you have apparently
[15:29] <soreau> johnw: In here please
[15:30] <uqs> soreau, so it's creative's screw up... great... thanks for all the help anyway :)
[15:30] <soreau> uqs: Usually, that error means the module was compiled against a different kernel from that of what is running currenty
[15:30] <soreau> johnw: In here please
[15:31] <soreau> ! pm | johnw
[15:32] <johnw> ok
[15:32] <watson516> I have set the driver to nv in xorg.conf, I tried the Hardware Drivers again to enable the recommended nvidia driver, it downloaded and installed and says I need to restart...I restarted and I get the error and I have to reset the xorg.conf file
[15:32] <soreau> uqs: That source may be intended for a different kernel version from that of which you're using
[15:32] <soreau> watson516: the error?
[15:32] <watson516> soreau: It just told me to check to make sure I have an nvidia card installed
[15:33] <uqs> soreau, I see. Well there weren't any option for different kernels. and since my on-board audio refuse to work aswell I guess I still have many hours of searchin to do until I get this to work
[15:33] <soreau> watson516: What told you this?
[15:33] <der_On>  soreau: thanks allot. worked like a charm
[15:33] <watson516> soreau: a box popped up when the xserver failed to load
[15:33] <soreau> uqs: Sorry man, wish I could help more
[15:34] <soreau> watson516: Since you already tried to install manually, you probably need to undo whatever it did. I think the command is with the 'nvidia-blah-blah.run --uninstall' then use ubuntus installer
[15:34] <boozler> How do I hide partition mounts in the side menu of nautilus
[15:34] <uqs> soreau, no it's ok. Thanks for taking your time anyway :]
[15:35] <watson516> soreau: Ok, I will try that now
[15:36] <jinxx> Hi, I'm having a problem very frequently when I try to start my Ubuntu machine... basically before it gets to GDM, the machine locks up unless I go into recovery mode and do xfix before going to GDM (and sometimes even that fails)... is there any way to fix this?
[15:36] <watson516> soreau: It says, bash: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.29-pkg1.run: command not found
[15:37] <soreau> watson516: You're not running it right. Prefix the command with sh
[15:37] <watson516> soreau: right, sorry
[15:38] <bullgard4> Where is described (explained) the file format of proc/asound/pcm?
[15:38] <Ramonster> what folder is the SVN folder in?
[15:39] <soreau> bullgard4: Probably your best bet is to look at the driver kernel code
[15:39] <testi> How can I monitor how fast in bytes per second a file grows?
[15:39] <ScottG> Is there any cli tool I can use to send output of another command to my clipboard?
[15:39] <nickkontos> help! my /home partition (ext4) is corrupted! i've used fsck but it loops indefinitely - restarting from the beginning - used also photorec but it recovered my file without their original filenames! i have an external 500gb with 230gb free space - the data that i want to recover are about 140gb
[15:39] <nickkontos> anyone?
[15:39] <soreau> Ramonster: There is no one and only svn folder. What are you trying to do?
[15:39] <Ramonster> need to get to the svn/trunk folder
[15:39] <soreau> ScottG: That's a good question ;)
[15:40] <kawuno> ScottG: xclip
[15:40] <ScottG> soreau: Fo sho
[15:40] <ScottG> kawuno: Sounds fake. You made that up
[15:40] <soreau> ScottG: Probably get better response in ##linux though
[15:40] <Ramonster> soreau: used the command: svn co svn://www.arcemu.info/svn/ -r 2337 - now i need to get into that folder
[15:40] <kawuno> ScottG: why should I
[15:40] <kawuno> ScottG: xclip - command line interface to X selections (clipboard)
[15:40] <Ramonster> soreau: never mind. found it :)
[15:40] <ScottG> kawuno: haha im just messing with you, ill look around for it
[15:41] <soreau> Ramonster: That command downloads to CWD, the Current Working Directory
[15:41] <ScottG> kawuno: Thanks!
[15:41] <armence> So, where can I download the source code for my kernel?
[15:41] <kawuno> ScottG: np
[15:41] <kawuno> armence: kernel.org ?
[15:41] <soreau> armence: Install the linux-source package
[15:41] <armence> soreau: thanks
[15:41] <Ramonster> soreau: Oh, allright. thanks
[15:41] <icehawk78> If I run the memtest and my computer immediately reboots after less than a second (too fast for me to see anything on screen) does that mean my memory is broke?
[15:41] <soreau> armence: It will download a tarball and place it into /usr/src for you to extract
[15:42] <bullgard4> soreau: It is not so easy to determine "the" driver kernel code. There are several which I could think of. Which driver do you mean exactly?
[15:42] <armence> soreau: thanks
[15:42] <soreau> bullgard4: This really has nothing to do with ubuntu directly. Try ##kernel or ##linux
[15:43] <soreau> icehawk78: Not necessarily, but that's probably not a good sign unless you have a super fast computer with little or no memory installed :)
[15:43] <oskar-> icehawk78:  perhaps, but also the memtest image could be corrupted
[15:43] <ahattar> hi, question I have 9.04 and having problem connecting to the internet, inside 192.168 segment is fine
[15:43] <ahattar> any ideas?
[15:43] <soreau> ahattar: How are you trying to connect?
[15:43] <sgeo> Hi all
[15:44] <nickkontos> hey! anyone? I've lost all of my friends pc personal files! And think that i got to install ubuntu in his laptop for better perfomance than xp..
[15:44] <sgeo> Is there any way for Ubuntu installed via wubi to access Window's files?
[15:44] <oskar-> ahattar:  is the default route set? dns resolution working correctly? does the router actually route for you computer?
[15:44] <ahattar> I can not even ping an IP outside my <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:44] <damagednoob> sgeo, http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php
[15:44] <nickkontos> at least tell me were can I get help!
[15:45] <damagednoob> sgeo, "Yes, the Windows partitions will be available within the directories /host and /media."
[15:45] <sgeo> damagednoob, tyvm
[15:45] <damagednoob> :)
[15:45] <soreau> ahattar: idk, try ##networking maybe
[15:45] <soreau> nickkontos: What happened exactly?
[15:46] <icehawk78> soreau: Not so much. I borrowed a 1 GB stick from my girlfriend over the weekend and am trying to get my laptop to boot up now with my own memory (either two 256 MB sticks, or a 1 GB stick that I think is dying), and it won't boot past grub (sits there indefinitely at a blinking _).
[15:46] <ahattar> oskar, dns is fine, I can use other computer with my router fine
[15:46] <soucy> hi, can anyone tell me how i can change that the command "firefox" to start the command "firefox-3.5" ? :>
[15:46] <soreau> icehawk78: It wont even boot ubuntu?
[15:46] <nickkontos> I did lots of resizes in all of the partitions
[15:46] <kevdog> hello boys >-)
[15:46] <kawuno> soucy: alias
[15:47] <soreau> soucy: Make firefox a symlink pointing to firefox-3.5
[15:47] <nickkontos> and then when somethings crashed - like kernel panic crash - i hard reseted a few times
[15:47] <oskar-> ahattar:  another point: is the netmask set correctly?
[15:47] <icehawk78> soreau: I can boot into a live CD, but the first hard drive just sits there at a blinking cursor. I've left it sit for at least 15 minutes, which I assumed was long enough to determine if it was going to work or not.
[15:47] <damagednoob> lol, thanks soreau, been wondering how to do that :P
[15:48] <soreau> icehawk78: After booting live, have you tried reinstalling fresh again?
[15:49] <icehawk78> soreau: Not yet, since I literally just installed fresh last night. That was with the other memory in. That's the only difference between now and last night.
[15:49] <parapanghelescu> what software you use for converting .flac to mp3 ???
[15:49] <rafael_> Hi
[15:49] <soreau> icehawk78: Well? I think you should try some things with the new memory in (like reinstalling fresh)
[15:49] <nickkontos> soreau: I did lots of resizes in all of the partitions
[15:50] <nickkontos> soreau: and then when somethings crashed - like kernel panic crash - i hard reseted a few times
[15:50] <soreau> nickkontos: And? what else happened after that?
[15:50] <linduxed> parapanghelescu: http://tinyurl.com/m6oc98
[15:50] <icehawk78> soreau: Darn. I was hoping to avoid that :P. Thanks, though.
[15:51] <damagednoob> parapanghelescu, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=790587
[15:51] <coz_> icehawk78,  yes indeed ,,, if you installed new memory after you already installed ubuntu  reinstall .. it will work better
[15:51] <damagednoob> parapanghelescu, install lame library and then sound converter app
[15:51] <soreau> coz_: You mean s/work better/work? ;)
[15:51] <coz_> :)
[15:51] <bullgard4> How can I determine what driver determines the contents of /proc/asound/pcm?
[15:52] <nickkontos> soreau: My ubuntu kept booting but they could not read from /home - my / partition was in excellent shape. unfortunately I reinstalled ubuntu, this time all in the / partition
[15:52] <soreau> nickkontos: So you nuked the windoze partition?
[15:53] <soreau> watson516: Please tell us in here what you did to get it working
[15:53] <nickkontos> soreau: my windows partition is fine
[15:53] <soreau> nickkontos: I thought you said you deleted some files?
[15:53] <nickkontos> soreau: my /home is messed/unreadable
[15:54] <nickkontos> soreau: no i didn't delete nothing
[15:54] <icehawk78> Is there a security risk at having a PC that's acting as a web server log in automatically if I'm not worried about the box physically being accessed?
[15:54] <soreau> nickkontos: So you put /home on a separate partition?
[15:55] <soreau> icehawk78: That's how I have mine setup :p
[15:55] <grawity> icehawk78: Since the autologin only works for local logins, and the computer is physically safe, it shouldn't be bad.
[15:55] <icehawk78> Thanks, just wanted to make sure.
[15:56] <miguel> hey guys i just installed ubuntu 9.04 and i have sound outside of firefox but not in firefox
[15:56] <nickkontos> soreau: i have an 320gb hard disk  in wich the first 60gb is the windows ntfs partition, the second partition is 140 gb and is (was) the /home partition, and the last partition is my / (I also have a swap 3b in the end of the disk)
[15:56] <Guest70291> like i can play mp3s and movie videos, but when i try play a flash video in firefox it doest make any sound