[00:04] <jonah> hi is anyone here familar with mac, linux and samba. basically i turned windows sharing on with my macbook, and now my linux box has full access, but worryingly there's no passwords to put in or authentication? is this safe. when i take my macbook to a coffee shop i don't want everyone accessing my stuff! hehe
[00:09] <gkffcks> jonah: are you using the same password and usernames on both machines? I don't know about the mac, but I know if you connect to samba from windows it will auto authenticate you if your using the same password and username, this might be similar to what's happening, I would suggest you try logging on as a different user and then see if you still arn't prompted for a password...
[00:11] <jonah> gkffcks: ah really, that's what it might be then, i don't have any other user accounts to test this out with though
[00:12] <ubuntu_> which distro do you all recommend?
[00:12] <gkffcks> just make a new one on your ubuntu box and then log into it, it's easy, and you can delete it when your done, hope that helps....
[00:13] <danborne-lappy> Any one familiar with wubi here?
[00:13] <ubuntu_> i used wubi from the ubuntu live cd
[00:15] <danborne-lappy> I wanted to force certain parameters but I am not sure how to do it with the tool; it does not seem very linuxy
[00:15] <doblejota> someone can help me please? i cant set more than 640x480 in a viewsonic e40 monitor using kubuntu 8.10 and a video card nvidia 8500. Its some kind of incompatibility?
[00:15] <ubuntu_> yeah, it really isn't. i haven't attempted to force any myself
[00:24] <boboso> is there a way to print to a printer that is connected to a windows box?  both the windows box and the pc that i want to print to are on the same network.
[00:25] <jonah> does anyone know why i can't write to linux box through samba in finder in macosx, i don't have permissions it says but i can do it the other way onto mac from linux, is it a finder bug?
[00:27] <danborne-lappy> boboso: yes, that should be simple via the printer wizard, youll need cups and samba installed and the printer on the windows box shared
[00:27] <danborne-lappy> jonah: I would assume it is because you have not given the proper permissions to the mac box
[00:28] <danborne-lappy> Now wtf is someone who actually knows wubi
[00:28] <jonah> danborne-lappy: i don't think i've set any permissions though, how can i check? my username and passwords are same on both machines so i thought it'd just work??
[00:30] <boboso> danborne-lappy: im useing kde 4.1 and i cant find the printer wizard could you help me out?
[00:30] <danborne-lappy> jonah: No, because they are different users. Try chmod -v the folder you would like to share on the linux box first to see what permissions are set for it. Then add the mac user
[00:31] <danborne-lappy> boboso: I am not sure, I do not use KUbutu and am not familiar with it.
[00:31] <boboso> ah ok ty
[00:32] <danborne-lappy> boboso: Try in KDE control centre ( I am not sure what it is called in English, configure your desktop or something like that maybe); I am not sure how KUbuntu deals with printerss buit it could be in there.
[00:35] <jonah> danborne-lappy: haha yeah that works, if i right click my home dir and click the permissions so group and others can read/write i can write from mac, is this secure though to outside world or can anyone read/write my computer now?
[00:36] <danborne-lappy> jonah: Did you do it only for that mac user or did you 777 it?
[00:37] <jonah> danborne-lappy: 777 i think, i don't know how to do it for mac user??
[00:37] <jonah> danborne-lappy: i just right clicked it in dolphin
[00:37] <Xeron> ok so hey guys sence i updated to 9.4 kubuntu i cant play verry many online streaming video and the ones i can play wont let me fulscreen untill i minimize the window with the webpage
[00:37] <jonah> danborne-lappy: could you help me out securing it up a bit, i don't want to mess all my permissions up
[00:37] <Xeron> also its glitchy in the backround once i fulscreen it can someone help me please!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:38] <danborne-lappy> jonah: If you 777ed it you will be unsecure, just manually add that user
[00:38] <jonah> danborne-lappy: right ok, so if i right click in dolphin again and put owner to can view and modify, group to can view and others to can view, is that what it should be on?
[00:39] <danborne-lappy> Owner will make it so that only your user on the linux box can view and modify, you could make a group and add your mac box windows box or what not to it and then make it so that that gorup can modify and what not
[00:41] <humberto> amarillo
[00:41] <jonah> danborne-lappy: but others was already set to can view and not to forbidden? is that right, i don't want everyone to be able to view my computer contents?
[00:41] <danborne-lappy> Than disable
[00:46] <jonah> Can anyone please tell me what the default permissions should be set to in dolphin. i right clicked my home folder and changed them, should it be owner: can view & modify, group can view and others can view or is this not right? can anyone have a look at theirs for me and check please?
[00:49] <danborne-lappy> Ôwner can view and modify, dude it is up to you
[00:50] <Dragnslcr> jonah- sounds about right to me
[00:51] <jonah> Dragnslcr: ok thanks
[00:52] <jonah> anyone know how i add my macbook user to read and write my home folder but not everyone else?
[01:06]  * Elone bored
[01:10] <boboso> to be able to print on a windows box on the same network as my kubuntu box do i need to do anything other than share the print on the windows box?
[01:12] <Elone> you need samba i think
[01:12] <Elone> !samba
[01:24] <Sonnentae> everytime my screen saver kicks in my screen gets all garbled and I have to reboot, any ideas why?
[01:26] <boboso> Elone: right i have samba on my ubuntu box but do i need to install something on the windows box?
[01:28] <emacspy> sonnentae: try using xscreensaver instead of kscreemsavers
[01:30] <Elone> boboso, no if you setup correctly you should be able to use File & Printer Sharing the same way as any windows box
[01:31] <boboso> k guess i dont have something setup right then
[01:51] <driss> hi everyone
[01:54] <driss> i have a small problem
[02:04] <KomiaPoika> hi
[02:05] <KomiaPoika> after installing kde3 packages from launchpad for kubuntu 8.10, my packages are broken necaise python-kde3 cant install and apt-get -f wont fix it
[02:06] <KomiaPoika> i get error: http://www.pastebin.ca/1376368
[02:06] <KomiaPoika> how can i unblock my packages to install the missing ones?
[02:07] <KomiaPoika> i cant deinstall python to let install this one cause i cant reset my packages
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[02:12] <stepnem> yeah, life is hard sometimes...
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[02:12] <astrobear> someone kick him
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[02:12] <astrobear> how do you change the login and logout audio?
[02:12] <stepnem> something like system -> settings or similar
[02:13] <stepnem> i'm on Kubuntu, but I used to do in in Gnome too, just don't remember exactly
[02:13] <amd> what means jaunty?
[02:13] <stepnem> ubuntu version name
[02:13] <astrobear> stepnem: yeah i've looked there, but i can't find it :\
[02:14] <amd> but what is a jaunty?
[02:14] <stepnem> well it's there I'm sure, :D
[02:14] <stepnem> maybe preferences ...?
[02:15] <astrobear> it's in system notifications
[02:15] <stepnem> http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=jaunty
[02:15] <stepnem> right, :)
[02:15] <amd> ...
[02:16] <amd> not pleased, what developers wanted to say with
[02:17] <amd> not pleased, what developers wanted to say with JAUNTY JAKALOPE?
[02:19] <amd> ???
[02:19] <stepnem> well I've given up that kind of questions some time ago; but if you find out, do share the knowledge!
[02:19] <stepnem> :D
[02:19] <amd> hmmm
[02:20] <amd> for example 8.10's was intrepid ibex
[02:20] <amd> but WHY?
[02:20] <amd> what happened with the penguin?
[02:21] <amd> :)
[02:21] <m_tadeu_> how can I check if my microphone is working?
[02:21] <stepnem> ...say something?
[02:22] <m_tadeu_> you mean the sound should be directed to the speakers? or do I need an app to hear something?
[02:23] <amd> kmix
[02:23] <stepnem> well usually if you use microphone, it's not to hear yourself from the speakers, right?
[02:23] <amd> or dublu-click on speakers
[02:24] <amd> or install audacity
[02:26] <amd> comprendre?
[02:26] <m_tadeu_> oh si :P trying audacity right now
[02:27] <amd> so is working?
[02:29] <m_tadeu_> nop
[02:29] <ep> Off topic I guess: kaffine isn't playing an off the shelf DVD movie.  Is this a futile attempt due to some DRM issue or would it most likely be some other problem -- eg operator error
[02:29] <alepot> do you have libdvdcss installed?
[02:30] <ep> surely
[02:30] <ep> but i'll check :)
[02:30] <rizvan> please help with kwin headers
[02:30] <rizvan> -- Looking for kwinglobals.h - not found.
[02:30] <rizvan> WARNING: *** KWin headers not found
[02:32] <m_tadeu_> I'm using a usb mic
[02:33] <alepot> rizvan: what gives you this error? what are you trying to do?
[02:33] <JontheEchidna> rizvan: install kdebase-workspace-dev
[02:33] <amd> lsusb
[02:34] <amd> what says lsusb?
[02:34] <rizvan> thanks, installing kdebase-workspace-dev fixed the error, i was compiling domino kwin style
[02:35] <alepot> rizvan: apt-get build-dep <package> sorts dependencies mostly.
[02:35] <rizvan> thanks alepot, i'll save the command for future use :)
[02:35] <m_tadeu_> amd: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/140441/
[03:47] <GentooJohnny> Im having a problem reconfigureing kdm
[03:47] <GentooJohnny> what would be the easiest way to reconfigure it.
[03:55] <sva_> hi evereyoe.. i have a strange problem... i have a directory wich seams emtpy but isnt.. and i cant delete it (move it, copy it, change permissions.. anithing at all).. if i try to manipulate it outside de console in a file manger everything crushes.. and i cant build a collection in a music player
[03:59] <Marfi> Hello, this has probably been asked several times...but how do I enable icons on the desktop? Putting K on a computer for a client
[04:02] <stepnem> Marfi: System Settings -> Desktop -> Behaviour -> Show icons on desktop
[04:03] <Marfi> stepnem: Behavior isn't here
[04:03] <stepnem> oh well, KDE 3.5.10 here
[04:04] <Marfi> KDE4 here
[04:04] <Marfi> Anyone else know how to enable icons on KDE4?
[04:05] <ufuk_k> Marfi: what you mean by icons?
[04:05] <ufuk_k> open add widgets dialog and add folder view to your desktop
[04:06] <ufuk_k> you can add icons in it
[04:06] <Marfi> ufuk_k: I want them to be "the traditional" way. The client will have enough of a learning curve as it is, and I don't want more resistance on him than he needs
[04:07] <ufuk_k> Ok. do you have a folder view widget on your desktop now?
[04:07] <Marfi> ufuk_k: yea, its on there
[04:07] <Marfi> ufuk_k: I don't want to use the widget for it, is what I am getting at
[04:08] <ufuk_k> Marfi: enter into appearance settings on desktop
[04:08] <ufuk_k> in the Type dialog choose folder view, then the folder view bomces your desktop
[04:08] <ufuk_k> *becomes
[04:09] <ufuk_k> you can add icons anywhere in your desktop after then
[04:09] <Marfi> ufuk_k: Okay. I think he will be able to deal with this.
[04:09] <Marfi> ufuk_k: To give you an idea about the guy...he is still using AOL
[04:09] <ufuk_k> I understand, but it is just a matter of time and patience.
[04:10] <ufuk_k> if he like it, he'll get used to it and learn quick
[04:10] <Marfi> ufuk_k: That's the problem. It took him a ton of convincing to just use it
[04:13] <ufuk_k> Marfi: I think you better don't force him, if you do it too much, he will give up. Let him to use it for sometime.
[04:14] <Marfi> ufuk_k: I'm gonna tell him that his "homework" is to sit on the computer for at least an hour a night. =)
[04:27] <puff_> Hello. is any1 awake_
[04:27] <puff_> ?
[04:29] <stepnem> sure, waiting for you, puff_
[04:30] <puff_> stepnem: )))
[04:31] <puff_> stepnem: I'm kind a noob, but still. I have some problems with network connection in 9.04.
[04:32] <puff_> stepnem: I create an acces point. but it just refuse to connect
[04:32] <stepnem> oh well, hm... I'm still using 8.04
[04:34] <puff_> Now i have 8.10. and everything is perfekt, but videocard. But in 9.04 i do not have network, but wideo working perfect. moment 22
[04:34] <puff_> stepnem: |
[04:35] <stepnem> puff_: what do you mean by 'create an access point' -- you are trying to connect or really administering an AP?
[04:36] <puff_> stepnem:  I'm using a USB_gsm modem. so i have to create acces point on right network.
[04:37] <stepnem> oh dear, I've got no experience with that...
[04:38] <puff_> Jeah...it isn't so nice to work with those things )))
[04:38] <stepnem> you might try #ubuntu, there still seem to be some people around
[04:38] <puff_> ok, i wil try. thx
[04:38] <puff_> stepnem:
[04:39] <stepnem> good luck!
[04:41] <slerder> Hey guys. does anyone know how i can clear/reset the names, of network interface cards, eth0, eth1 etc? thanks
[04:44] <DaSkreech> slerder: what do you want to do?
[05:00] <artpoetryfiction> I've got Plasma crashing... signal 11 (SIGSEGV)
[05:01] <artpoetryfiction> Can anyone refresh my memory as to the name and location of the video config file, and any plasma config file?
[05:06] <DaSkreech> video config file would be /etc/Xii/xorg.conf
[05:06] <DaSkreech> plasma has two config files one for plasma and one for the things inside plasma
[05:07] <DaSkreech> X11
[05:07] <DaSkreech> not xii
[05:13] <artpoetryfiction> DaSkreech: thanks I beat you to the xorg.conf file, but don't see anything there to suggest the problem, like I thougth there would be
[05:13] <artpoetryfiction> Where are the plasma files locateda?
[05:16] <DaSkreech> ~/.kde/share/config/
[05:16] <DaSkreech> pretty obviously named
[05:20] <artpoetryfiction> Any idea how I can launch a terminal when I don't have a kicker plasmoid?
[05:21] <p_quarles> artpoetryfiction: with krunner?
[05:22] <kerry> hello
[05:22] <DaSkreech> artpoetryfiction: kicker? you mean a panel?
[05:23] <DaSkreech> !hi | kerry
[05:23] <DaSkreech> artpoetryfiction: If you have konqueror open press F4
[05:23] <artpoetryfiction> I've got no desktop, because plasma is crashed. Is there a command key or some default way to open a terminal when I have no desktop?
[05:24] <Guest69388> is there any way i can create custom categories for the kde menu - like the categories that are listed in .desktop files, that tell the file where to appear in the app launcher
[05:24] <DaSkreech> Yes the way you just said
[05:24] <Guest69388> i know i could just move the link in the menu editor but i'd like to try it this way instead
[05:26] <Guest69388> DaSkreech do you mean me? "yes the way you just said"
[05:26] <DaSkreech> yes
[05:29] <Guest69388> ok what i want to do, is create my own category, ie if i open blackbox.desktop, the categories listed there are games and logicgames - i'd like to create a new category 'LogicGamesPack', then create a directory with the same name under Games in the app launcher - and then every .desktop file i add the category of LogicGamesPack to will appear under that new directory
[05:29] <Guest69388> hope i make sense!
[05:31] <DaSkreech> Yes but you have to rebuild the coca I think
[05:32] <DaSkreech> ksyscocabuilder
[05:32] <Guest69388> ok i have no idea what that is, is it a complicated thing that someone who doesn't know what she's doing shouldn't be messing with?
[05:34] <DaSkreech> umm
[05:34] <DaSkreech> yes and no
[05:34] <DaSkreech> overall it's complicated
[05:34] <DaSkreech> but it's kinda like that apt-get system where you just need to know apt-get update
[05:34] <DaSkreech> #kde can give you some better guidance but be preapred for them to tell you just use kmenueditor
[05:35] <Guest69388> lol ok
[05:35] <Guest69388> well i'll google more info on ksyscocabuilder
[05:36] <Guest69388> thanks for your help :)
[05:36] <Guest69388> cheers
[05:36] <DaSkreech> Guest69388: look up the .desktop for the menu first
[05:36] <artpoetryfiction> I've got no desktop, because plasma is crashed. Is there a command key or some default way to open a terminal when I have no desktop?
[05:36] <DaSkreech> that's wht you really want to learn about
[05:37] <DaSkreech> artpoetryfiction: couple of ways
[05:37] <DaSkreech> how are you logged in here now?
[05:38] <artpoetryfiction> By clicking on the submit bug link on the crash window, which launched my default (opera) browser
[05:38] <artpoetryfiction> X11 is running, just not plasma... which is the whole desktop in 4.2
[05:54] <martyr2k6> halp!
[05:54] <martyr2k6> I am a n00b who needs help here.
[05:54] <martyr2k6> not to be annoying or something
[05:56] <martyr2k6> I have kubuntu intrepid ibex installed on one of my computers as the sole OS and I want to format the hard drive and install plain ol Ubuntu 8.10 in it's place... pm me if you can help!
[05:56] <martyr2k6> also, I only have ONE molex connector and it's powering my hard drive
[05:57] <martyr2k6> can anyone help?
[05:58] <martyr2k6> anyone?
[06:01] <Dragnslcr> Do you really need to format the disk?
[06:03] <martyr2k6> well I dunno
[06:04] <martyr2k6> again I am a common vista user wanting to toy with ubuntu on one of my other computers
[06:04] <martyr2k6> so naturally when I see I have an os that I dont like, I look to format the hdd and start anew
[06:04] <Dragnslcr> If you just want to install Gnome, you can install the ubuntu-desktop package
[06:05] <martyr2k6> ok, where I do start?
[06:05] <martyr2k6> I am on the kde desktop
[06:05] <Dragnslcr> The only difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu is the default desktop environment. Everything underneath is exactly the same
[06:05] <martyr2k6> ok, so when I power on the puter, it will boot Ubuntu instead of kubuntu?
[06:05] <Dragnslcr> Open up Adept, search for the ubuntu-desktop package
[06:06] <Dragnslcr> It's the same operating system
[06:06] <martyr2k6> sweet...
[06:06] <Dragnslcr> When you log in, you'll have the choice between KDE and Gnome
[06:06] <martyr2k6> you see here is the problem I am having using kubuntu... my monitor is actually a 40 inch lcd tv
[06:07] <martyr2k6> and when I previously hooked up the computer (when I had both a hdd and odd) ubuntu ran great on the tv for some reason, and kubuntu says "no" to this idea
[06:08] <Dragnslcr> That is kind of weird
[06:08] <martyr2k6> yeah I know right
[06:08] <Dragnslcr> Not sure why Gnome would work and KDE wouldn't
[06:09] <martyr2k6> yeah, even as a newbie and a windows die hard user, it doesn't make sense to even me
[06:09]  * DaSkreech could think of a few reasons
[06:09] <libervisco> qt4 can leave everyone eating its dust...
[06:09] <Dragnslcr> Handling the video output should be X's job, which runs under both of them
[06:09] <DaSkreech> but install ubuntu-desktop and you can have both
[06:09] <libervisco> but the tragedy is that in order to stay consistent with other gtk apps it must be conservative :(
[06:10] <martyr2k6> I am using ubuntu on an old laptop right now, and it works gorgeously... but my other desktop running kubuntu is just having issues with kubuntu
[06:10] <martyr2k6> I mean right now it wont let me do anything after I fetched the recent package list in adept
[06:10] <DaSkreech> such as ?
[06:10] <martyr2k6> well, for one the video issue
[06:10] <martyr2k6> all the text is impossibly small to read
[06:10] <martyr2k6> so I mean I figured it would be quickest to format the hard drive and reinstall ubuntu
[06:11] <martyr2k6> yeah the kde environment has completely frozen and all I can use is the mouse
[06:14] <libervisco> Why is the "configure" button grayed out for qtcurve in kubuntu?
[06:16] <DaSkreech> martyr2k6: Ha ha :-) I'll bet that's a X freeze
[06:24] <artpoetryfiction> Ok, so I'm logged in as a user not in the sudoers group, how can I launch an app with root permission?
[06:25] <tanjir> artpoetryfiction: sudo appname
[06:25] <DaSkreech> artpoetryfiction: Sudo
[06:27] <tanjir> artpoetryfiction: you can edit /etc/sudoers to give you root permission
[06:27] <DaSkreech> or just add the user to the admin group
[06:27] <DaSkreech> which makes them have near root powers
[06:27] <DaSkreech> in conjunction with sudo of course
[06:28] <DaSkreech>  martyr2k6: sudo update-apt-xapian-index
[06:43] <DaSkreech> !puregnome | martyr2k6
[06:44] <DaSkreech> that should probably be kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data
[06:47] <astrobear> how can i enable automatic scanning of files before they are opened firefox? files like wmv, jpeg, pdf, etc.
[06:48] <DaSkreech> huh?
[06:48] <astrobear> hey DaSkreech, i think you went out for lunch the other day, but the problem with my computer last time is that i had upgraded software for the first time in a long time the night before and one of the programs edited the xorg.conf file
[06:49] <DaSkreech> astrobear: ah of course
[06:50] <astrobear> i had to reinstall the nvidia driver binary driver
[06:50] <astrobear> so anyway, i have family on this p.c. that open files without concerning themselves if they have viruses or whatnot
[06:51] <astrobear> s/if they have/if the files contain
[06:51] <DaSkreech> astrobear: in windows?
[06:52] <DaSkreech> !virus
[06:57] <astrobear> read www.geekzone.co.nz/foobar/6229 for a more recent take on viruses in linux
[06:57] <astrobear> using linux
[06:58] <astrobear> could run firefox 3 through a virtual windows machines (because it has automatic virus scanning)... if i had quick enough machine
[06:58] <libervisco> Hi
[06:59] <libervisco> The configure button doesn't show next to the qtcurve option in style settings
[06:59] <libervisco> so it's impossible to change the qtcurve theme..
[06:59] <DaSkreech> astrobear: That's been patched in KDE already
[07:00] <DaSkreech> they are no longer executable and raise a flag if they are
[07:01] <DaSkreech> sorry
[07:01] <DaSkreech> other way around
[07:04] <DaSkreech> Regardless a virus scanner will not help and quite likely will never help in Linux
[07:09] <astrobear> so.. if a pdf has a hiddren script, the kde user is notified?
[07:09] <astrobear> hidden*
[07:11] <DaSkreech> the pdf would have to be executable
[07:14] <DaSkreech> which means the user would have to make it executable themself
[07:15] <DaSkreech> not likely for someone who is clueless and telling them that executable e-mails are bad should help the clue flow to the right side of caution
[07:27] <Kubuntiac> Anyone have any ideas why kdm would load, but then kde wouldn't? I even tried switching video drivers and deleting .kde in ~....
[07:27] <DaSkreech> ha
[07:27] <DaSkreech> you too?
[07:27] <DaSkreech> I can think of a few reasons
[07:28] <DaSkreech> when did that start?
[07:29] <Kubuntiac> After some updates a few days ago
[07:30] <Kubuntiac> Nohing obvious in kdm.log / dmesg
[07:30] <DaSkreech> ~/.xsession-errors ?
[07:30] <Kubuntiac> Haven't looked there... brb
[07:31] <Kubuntiac> Nope. Blank. *sigh*
[07:32] <DaSkreech> KDE4 ?
[07:33] <jabba_> i has a jaunty! :D
[07:33] <Kubuntiac> What about KDE4?
[07:33] <Kubuntiac> Me too
[07:33] <DaSkreech> ah jaunty
[07:33] <DaSkreech> hmm
[07:33]  * jabba_ <3 new kubuntu
[07:33] <Kubuntiac> 64 bit?
[07:33] <jabba_> it's running all nice and happy in virtualbox on my mac
[07:33] <DaSkreech> my friend installed KDM3 and could login again as a workaround
[07:34] <jabba_> Kubuntiac: no, 32-bit guest in xVM
[07:34] <DaSkreech> not sure if that works in Jaunty
[07:34] <Kubuntiac> interesting...
[07:34] <jabba_> Kubuntiac: but i have hw 3d acel! :D
[07:34] <DaSkreech> I'd say try a new user andsee if they can login
[07:34] <DaSkreech> I'll warrant they can
[07:34] <Kubuntiac> k I'll give it a shot
[07:34] <jabba_> and, heh, it's funny, these virtual machines, they get faster when you give em more ram :)
[07:34] <jabba_> shame it looks like it won't use more than one cpu.
[07:34] <Kubuntiac> strange that... ;)
[07:35] <jabba_> Kubuntiac: machine in question has 16gb of ram, and it complains about "only" being given 4. i think it actually wants *contiguous* ram, which is bizarre
[07:35] <Kubuntiac> lol
[07:35] <Kubuntiac> Mine runs on a "measly" 4 gig of DDR2 :)
[07:36] <jabba_> Kubuntiac: this is a macpro. it's hard to kind of do things half-way
[07:36] <jabba_> my wife bought it for me for christmas
[07:36] <jabba_> sold a motorcycle to buy ram/disk for it :/
[07:37] <Kubuntiac> nice!
[07:37] <jabba_> is it worth mentioning to someone that i get lots of 404's from us.archive.ubuntu.org?
[07:37] <jabba_> when i switched to mirror.anl.gov i get all my packages?
[07:37] <Kubuntiac> Give it an hour or so just in case it's just maintenance, but if it's still happening...
[07:38]  * DaSkreech runs Vms with 700MB of RAM :(
[07:38] <jabba_> been goin on for two days
[07:38] <Kubuntiac> I've seen things go offline for 15 minutes or so reasonably often
[07:38] <jabba_> DaSkreech: i run openbsd vm's in 256mb of ram :)
[07:38] <Kubuntiac> ouch... I'd mention that...
[07:38] <jabba_> dirty little buggers
[07:38] <DaSkreech> jabba_: try running Windows
[07:39] <Kubuntiac> going offline for a miute to see if my new user can login... brb
[07:39] <jabba_> DaSkreech: i have a vista ultimage running in 4gb hat's just as happy as jaunty
[07:39] <jabba_> in fact, i'm real happy with vista in xVM -- it's faster than it is on the damn laptop! :o
[07:39] <DaSkreech> jabba_: No the main computer only has 700 MB of RAM
[07:39] <DaSkreech> Not the VM
[07:40] <jabba_> but then laptop is core2duo, and desktop is 3ghz xeon...
[07:40] <jabba_> DaSkreech: you, sir, have more patience than i
[07:40] <jabba_> doesn't it get crashy?
[07:40] <DaSkreech> It works really well as long as I don't do something stupid like leave compositing on
[07:40] <DaSkreech> Noep
[07:40] <jabba_> or swaptastic or anything?
[07:40] <DaSkreech> works fine
[07:41] <jabba_> hm
[07:41] <DaSkreech> IT gets swappy if run stuff like firefox in the main Computer and the vm
[07:41] <DaSkreech> I do have to restrict what I do
[07:41] <jabba_> i find it quietly unsettling that i'm downloading all my patches from .gov
[07:41] <DaSkreech> but it works
[07:42] <jabba_> DaSkreech: so the desktop is ubuntu and your guests are... windows?
[07:42] <DaSkreech> yes
[07:42] <jabba_> vista????!!
[07:42] <DaSkreech> umm no I'm not a madman
[07:42] <jabba_> oh ehh
[07:42] <jabba_> xp behaves a lot better in a vm :)
[07:42] <GentooJohnny> I can't get two kubuntu machines to connect to one another, but ping works for both.
[07:42] <jabba_> GentooJohnny: define "connect"
[07:42] <jabba_> GentooJohnny: like ssh?
[07:44] <GentooJohnny> ssh, terminal client, ftp, RDP anything...
[07:44] <jabba_> GentooJohnny: these are two physical ubuntu machines on the same switch, or what?
[07:44] <GentooJohnny> yes
[07:44] <jabba_> GentooJohnny: none of these services are turned on by default. have you installed ssh-server?
[07:44] <GentooJohnny> 4 port switch
[07:45] <DaSkreech> can vista even boot in 256 MB of RAM?
[07:45] <GentooJohnny> id perfer RDP
[07:45] <jabba_> GentooJohnny: sudo aptitude install krdp
[07:45] <jabba_> right?
[07:45] <GentooJohnny> its installed
[07:45] <jabba_> DaSkreech: i think so?
[07:45] <jabba_> GentooJohnny: what's the error you get?
[07:46] <DaSkreech> eh I don't own a Vista license anyway First Windows I don't legally own
[07:46] <jabba_> GentooJohnny: and can you, say, "telnet hostA 22" and make sure telnet's listening?
[07:46] <GentooJohnny> client closed connection sometimes and sometimes it just dies silently
[07:46] <jabba_> GentooJohnny: sounds a lot like firewalls
[07:47] <jabba_> GentooJohnny: out of curiosity, are you using tcpwrappers?
[07:47] <GentooJohnny> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[07:47] <GentooJohnny> no
[07:47] <jabba_> GentooJohnny: so either nobody's listening on port22, or port22 isn't open
[07:48] <jabba_> i have bad news though, i'm about > < close to a reboot
[07:48] <jabba_> i think you need to install openssh-server
[07:48] <GentooJohnny> port 5901 is open
[07:48] <GentooJohnny> for VNC
[07:48] <jabba_> and when you run aptitude or whatever can you search for an rdp server?
[07:48] <jabba_> why rdp instead of vnc?
[07:48] <GentooJohnny> because neither work
[07:48] <GentooJohnny> :(
[07:49] <GentooJohnny> so I figured one works better than the other.
[07:49] <jabba_> GentooJohnny: i kinda prefer rdp because there are more mac tools, but krdp is a nice app
[07:49] <jabba_> i've just never used a linux-based rdp server
[07:49] <GentooJohnny> krdp is running
[07:49] <DaSkreech> can you rdp to yourself?
[07:49] <GentooJohnny> on the remote machine
[07:49] <jabba_> can you telnet to the localhost port?
[07:50] <jabba_> e.g., telnet localhost 5091 or 22?
[07:50] <GentooJohnny> telnet to this machine or the remote one?
[07:51] <jabba_> GentooJohnny: is the rdp port 5091?
[07:51] <GentooJohnny> vnc is running on 5901 and rdp... who knows
[07:52] <jabba_> GentooJohnny: so on the machine the vnc server is running on, can you open a terminal and type "telnet localhost 5901"?
[07:52] <jabba_> it should open the connection rather than hang
[07:52]  * jabba_ doesn't see 5901 in /etc/services
[07:52] <Kubuntiac> Just tried a new user... no go. Still no kde! :(
[07:54] <DaSkreech> Kubuntiac: ah I wonder if your startkde script works
[07:54] <jabba_> what happens when you /etc/init.d/kdm restart ?
[07:55] <Kubuntiac> Just checking...
[07:55] <Kubuntiac> It brings up KDM, which acts the same as before (ie perfect until login)
[07:55] <jabba_> it should giv eyou that respawning business
[07:55] <jabba_> what happens at login?
[07:56] <Kubuntiac> The moment I push enter it goes to the screen that normally shows the icons
[07:56] <Kubuntiac> The background and cursor are there but nothing else
[07:56] <Kubuntiac> it just sits there without any splash forever
[07:56] <Kubuntiac> Cursor can be moved tho
[07:57] <DaSkreech> Kubuntiac: wait what?
[07:57] <DaSkreech> that's not what you said before
[07:57] <DaSkreech> Or maybe I erad it wrong
[07:57] <DaSkreech> You said it kicked you back to the login screen
[07:57] <jabba_> Kubuntiac: ctl-alt-f1
[07:57] <jabba_> then can you run an xterm or konsole or whatever?
[07:57] <Kubuntiac> ctrl+alt+f1 works
[07:57] <jabba_> sounds like startx is borked
[07:57] <jabba_> or startkdm or whatever
[07:57] <DaSkreech> startkde
[07:58] <Kubuntiac> /etc/init.d/kdm restart goes to the login screen (KDM)
[07:58] <jabba_> DaSkreech: somewhere, someone has a right answer :)
[07:58] <DaSkreech> startx calls xinit which calls startkde which calls kdeinit
[07:58] <jabba_> Kubuntiac: that's what the kdm service does :)
[07:59] <Kubuntiac> k
[07:59] <DaSkreech> Kubuntiac: I'd probably kill KDM start X with the X command then run startkde to see what it does
[07:59] <Kubuntiac> I just tried startkde... it said "command not found"
[07:59] <jabba_> okeedokee i gotta bounce the vm with the new -rt kernel
[07:59] <jabba_> brb, maybe, or it could crash-n-burn :D
[08:00] <Kubuntiac> later jabba!
[08:01] <Kubuntiac> Hmm... it's suggesting I install kde-workspace-bin... I'm thinking that should have been there from the start!
[08:01] <jabba_> haha
[08:01] <jabba_> Linux chimchim 2.6.28-3-rt #9-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT RT Fri Mar 27 23:23:50 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:01] <jabba_> woot, it runs :D
[08:02] <Kubuntiac> Woo hoo! What did you do?
[08:02] <jabba_> i switched kernels
[08:02] <jabba_> and did a full upgrade
[08:02] <Kubuntiac> Ahhh...
[08:02] <jabba_> it's like kde 4.mumble.a tinyfractal bit
[08:03] <Kubuntiac> I might try that if the kdebase-workspace-bin install doesn't help
[08:03] <GentooJohnny> jabba
[08:03] <jabba_> yes GentooJohnny?
[08:03] <GentooJohnny> Im just gonna try this again tommorrow
[08:03] <jabba_> GentooJohnny: sleep well
[08:03] <jabba_> GentooJohnny: just remember, ubuntu is better than portage :)
[08:03] <Kubuntiac> Night GJ!
[08:03] <GentooJohnny> can't do it because someone else is using the monitor I need to use for a tv
[08:04] <Kubuntiac> lol
[08:04] <Kubuntiac> priorities... ;)
[08:04] <GentooJohnny> major fight Id rather avoid
[08:04] <GentooJohnny> next idea
[08:04] <Kubuntiac> Good plan. Peace over stability any day.
[08:04] <DaSkreech> Kubuntiac: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[08:04] <GentooJohnny> its also why I need vnc/rdp/ssh working
[08:05] <Kubuntiac> good idea DaSkreech...
[08:05] <GentooJohnny> I hate this, I hear the machine running but can't do anything with it.
[08:06] <Kubuntiac> YES!!!
[08:06] <Kubuntiac> That did it!
[08:06] <Kubuntiac> (sudo apt-get install kde-workspace-bin)
[08:07] <Kubuntiac> Thanks for all your suggestions Jabba_ / DaSkreech
[08:08] <jabba_> Kubuntiac: i'm trying to figure out why i haven't got support for iso mounts
[08:08] <jabba_> i can still try to help
[08:08] <Kubuntiac> I think it probably saved me 10+ hours of headbanging (the bad kind)
[08:09] <Kubuntiac> Actually my systems working *perfectly* now...
[08:09] <Kubuntiac> since the install of kde-workspace-bin
[08:09] <Kubuntiac> I think the update just pulled it out of my system
[08:10] <jabba_> Kubuntiac: do you know about dpkg-reconfigure?
[08:10] <Kubuntiac> a very little bit...
[08:10] <DaSkreech> [noobie]: install ssh on it
[08:10] <Kubuntiac> usually from reconfiguring xorg
[08:11] <Kubuntiac> why?
[08:11] <[noobie]> DaSkreech, install ssh?
[08:11] <jabba_> oh i'm just saying if your startkde gets fubar'd
[08:11] <jabba_> it's a good last result
[08:11] <jabba_> resort
[08:11] <Kubuntiac> ahhh... true
[08:11] <DaSkreech> [noobie]: You should be able to get at least shell access then
[08:11] <Kubuntiac> I was just running around in the wrong direction thinking it had to be corrupted config files..
[08:12] <[noobie]> I want to use the machine for a file server and as a second remote shell
[08:12] <[noobie]> perhaps with screen.
[08:12] <DaSkreech> You still need to be ablee to log into it
[08:12] <jabba_> Kubuntiac: don't take this the wrong way but that's sort of like the developer swearing its not their code, that the compiler MUST be broken.
[08:12] <jabba_> :)
[08:12] <DaSkreech> and ssh gives you all of that
[08:13] <DaSkreech> jabba_: not sure how I see that connection at all
[08:13] <Kubuntiac> jabba: huh? I'm confused... and I think you're giving me more tech credit than I actually deserve,.. lol
[08:13] <jabba_> sorry, i deal with a lot more developers
[08:13]  * Kubuntiac != programmer of *any* kind
[08:13] <Kubuntiac> ;)
[08:14] <jabba_> what do you MEAN my code is broken? it's OBVIOUSLY the compiler.
[08:14] <jabba_> those GNU folks. they don't know how to make a compiler.
[08:14] <jabba_> sheesh.
[08:14] <[noobie]> yes ssh will give me a shell thats a start
[08:14]  * jabba_ chuckles
[08:14] <jabba_> (i kinda play a sysadmin on tv)
[08:14] <Kubuntiac> lol. I just assume I entered something in the console I didn't understand that I shouldn't have...
[08:14] <[noobie]> you play one... or are one playing one?
[08:14] <jabba_> i've given up trying to figure out which is which
[08:15] <jabba_> i want to just quit and be a bok choi farmer
[08:15] <Kubuntiac> roflol
[08:15] <jabba_> i hate unix
[08:15] <Kubuntiac> segfault in bok choi... aphid panic...
[08:15] <jabba_> and now i must restart for yet another kernel model
[08:15] <jabba_> module
[08:15]  * jabba_ sighs
[08:16] <jabba_> oh whoops
[08:16] <jabba_> it lied
[08:16] <Kubuntiac> ?
[08:16] <[noobie]> lol
[08:17] <Kubuntiac> well thanks again everyone. Now my perfectly working system is calling to me to go use it... :)
[08:18] <Kubuntiac> Best of luck with the bok choi!
[08:18] <DaSkreech> jabba_: I just instaleld Windows over the weekend for someone I had to reboot 7 times
[08:18] <jabba_> windows likes to reboot
[08:18] <DaSkreech> wanted to beat my head in
[08:18] <[noobie]> wow only 7?
[08:19] <[noobie]> sp3 requires 1 reboot ALONE.
[08:19] <DaSkreech> [noobie]: That was just to get the network card to work so I could download PS3
[08:19] <DaSkreech> SP3
[08:19] <DaSkreech> which of course wanted me to reboot
[08:19] <[noobie]> lol
[08:20] <jabba_> it will install in version 1.6 or x but not 1.6.0
[08:20] <jabba_> that, friends, is bad programming of shell scripts
[08:20] <jabba_> so minor hackitude is required before it will install the X module
[08:21] <DaSkreech> That never happens with bok choi!
[08:21] <jabba_> no shit. bok choi just cooperaates.
[08:21] <jabba_> water, sun, chop sticks, brown sauce, and tofu
[08:22] <jabba_> ok i reboot now.
[08:24] <jabba_> that worked.
[08:25] <jabba_> heh
[08:25] <jabba_> running at 1680x1005 resolution :) how wacky is that
[08:26] <jussi01> jabba_: please try to not wander off topic too much, if you jsut want to chat, use #kubuntu-offtopic. :) thanks
[08:26] <jabba_> sorry jussi01
[08:26] <jabba_> jussi01: wanted to mention the 404's earlier
[08:27] <jabba_> as well as the problem with virtualbox require virtualbox-ose tools
[08:28] <jabba_> and i did try to help the rdp guy. but at any rate, i'm outta here.
[08:31] <tyler_d> how do I log off another user from my account? -- no switching?
[08:49] <[noobie]> question : I have this file : /home/(user)/.local/Trash I need to empty how do it empty it without being in kde?
[08:52] <[noobie]> I don't want to delete the folder just empty the trash within it.
[08:52] <shock_day13> then right click on the trash can and click on empty trash can
[08:52] <[noobie]> lol. there is no trash can
[08:52] <shock_day13> click on add widgets
[08:52] <[noobie]> I suppose I could use dolphin
[08:52] <shock_day13> you'll find trash can there
[08:52] <shock_day13> add it to your desktop
[08:53] <[noobie]> shock_day13, perhaps this is the wrong place to ask, Im not in KDE
[08:53] <[noobie]> I fixed it
[08:53] <shock_day13> oh
[08:53] <shock_day13> k
[08:53] <DaSkreech> :-)
[08:54] <shock_day13> hey noobie
[08:54] <shock_day13> if you are not in kde then how are you using konversation?
[08:54] <shock_day13> are you using it on gnome?
[08:54] <DaSkreech> shock_day13: You don't have to be in KDE to use KDE apps
[08:54] <shock_day13> ya i know that
[08:55] <[noobie]> its xchat Im using
[08:55] <shock_day13> oh ok
[08:55] <shock_day13> im still new to this irc thing
[08:56] <[noobie]> shock_day13, its ok we were all once in your shoes
[08:56] <shock_day13> hey darkscreech do we get directly connected to kubuntu server from this irc clients without the use of internet?
[08:57] <[noobie]> shock_day13, you must use the internet to connect to anything outside your local (home) network
[08:58] <shock_day13> k
[08:58] <shock_day13> lol it seems im the real noobie here
[08:58] <[noobie]> no comment
[08:58] <shock_day13> hahahahaha
[08:59] <[noobie]> 31 mph winds ack Im glad Im indoors
[08:59] <[noobie]> chatting with you lot
[09:00] <shock_day13> where are you from?
[09:00] <Tm_T> !ot
[09:02] <shock_day13> hey ubottu i have a kubuntu related query
[09:02] <[noobie]> sadly I can't say anything about kde. it seems to self destruct the more I use it.
[09:03] <shock_day13> well it aint that complicated
[09:04] <shock_day13> hey noobie are you a programmer?
[09:05] <[noobie]> just a regular joe
[09:05] <shock_day13> k
[09:05] <shock_day13> do you know any software or any way through which we can make our own's themes for kde?
[09:07] <shock_day13> hey where can i find other such channels for irc clients?
[09:08] <[noobie]> shock_day13, here?
[09:09] <shock_day13> yup
[09:09] <shock_day13> i mean is there any site or anything that lists all the irc channels
[09:09] <DaSkreech> shock_day13: try /list
[09:09] <shock_day13> k
[09:10] <[noobie]> if your in xchat or irssi /list is completely useless
[09:10] <[noobie]> unless your REALLY a fast reader
[09:12] <shock_day13> how to stop this list from loading?
[09:16] <[noobie]> shock_day13, hence why I said, its useless
[09:16] <shock_day13> lol
[09:16] <shock_day13> finally the list has stopped
[09:17] <[noobie]> if your in xchat right click in the window and goto server > list of channels
[09:17] <shock_day13> k
[09:18] <[noobie]> lol /list fills your buffer 200x over with big networks like freenode
[09:18] <[noobie]> lol
[09:26] <heavenmetal> how do i install kubuntu 8.10 to a separate hdd (ide, master) from my vista 64 install (sata 0)..
[09:27] <heavenmetal> should i just disconnect the sata hdd or will that screw things up when they're both connected..
[09:31] <SlimeyPete> it'll screw things up because you'll be wanting to put the bootloader on the SATA drive, I imagine
[09:31] <SlimeyPete> the installer should just let you put kubuntu on your second drive
[10:02] <caleb_> o
[10:09] <kevin_> Will a desktop system go into suspend-to-ram mode ever?  It seems like mine is doing that; I don't want it to as I am serving a copule of things.
[10:25]  * gambas says hello to everyone
[10:54] <io> irc.oltreirc.net
[11:07] <svir> Hi all
[11:11] <glick> hmm
[11:11] <glick> i dont get it i have 3 gigs of ram
[11:11] <glick> i would think that kde would be a little snappier than it is
[11:11] <glick> and fonts generally look pretty ugly
[11:11] <glick> it just seems like it lags when do things
[11:11] <glick> and screen redraws arnt smooth
[11:12] <SlimeyPete> sounds like a graphics driver issue
[11:12] <glick> im running nvidia
[11:12] <glick> i think
[11:13] <glick> nvidia 1.1
[11:13] <glick> 1.17
[11:14] <glick> maybe i have to take a trip to my local linux lug
[11:14] <SlimeyPete> might be best
[11:14] <SlimeyPete> tbh it's quite liekly to just be a bug in kde4
[11:18] <glick> but im not running beta
[11:18] <glick> im running ibex
[11:20] <glick> yeah the lag kina sucks
[11:20] <glick> it just doesnt feel smooth and snappy
[11:20] <glick> its hard to explain
[11:40] <eagles0513875> hey guys im having trouble getting intrepid to load the live cd
[11:41] <eagles0513875> im trying it in safe graphics mode right now and nothigns happening
[11:48] <Havoc][> does anybody have a working xinerama with nvidia and compize under kde 4.2.1?
[11:50] <jussi01> Havoc][: I have twinview, but not xinerama. I think its broken.
[11:55] <eagles0513875> !tablet
[11:55] <eagles0513875> hey jussi01 what do i need to install to enable tablet features in intrepid
[11:57] <eagles0513875> !wacom
[11:57] <eagles0513875> !info wacom
[12:02] <funcrush> I was installing the kubuntu 9.04 beta but suddenly, the installing stop and loged on ubuntu and i can't continue how i can fix?
[12:04] <funcrush> I was installing the kubuntu 9.04 beta but suddenly, the installing stop and loged on ubuntu(id for live cd)  and i can't continue how i can fix?
[12:04] <bazhang> !jaunty
[12:05] <funcrush> well anyone cant' help me T-T
[12:05] <funcrush> have a nice day
[12:07] <eagles0513875> bazhang: wasnt he in the wrong channel
[12:07] <eagles0513875> ahh nm
[12:09] <ibrar> How to download the kernel kbuntu 8.10 uses
[12:10] <alepot> !intrepid
[12:12] <eagles0513875> alepot:  cant u get the kernel from kernel.org
[12:13] <eagles0513875> or does kubuntu make modifications to it
[12:13] <alepot> eagles0513875: you can get a vanilla kernel, but, as you say, ubuntu does patch it.
[12:14] <eagles0513875> patch it in what way
[12:14] <alepot> never looked :)
[12:15] <ibrar> So how I can download, kernel source code which should be compatible with kabuntu 8.10
[12:15] <alepot> you could use kernel-package to compile a stock kernel, which, unless you need something not provided by the stock kernel, is probably the best way to go
[12:16] <alepot> sudo aptitude install  linux-source
[12:18] <alepot> more than you need to know about the process if you search for "compile kernel" on the ubuntu documentaqtion site
[12:20] <ibrar> Actually I want a feature which was part of the 2.4, but dropped in 2.6
[12:25] <eagles0513875> ibrar: just download the latest kernel source and recompile the kernel im sure its there just not compiled wiht the default kubuntu kernel
[12:25] <alepot> ibrar: I'd agree with eagles0513875  - you'll probably find it in the config
[12:26] <eagles0513875> not to mention you can take out any features that dont pertain to your system
[12:26] <eagles0513875> for instance if you have an amd system u can take out the module for intel etc
[12:26] <alepot> ibrar: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[12:27] <eagles0513875> bah got too many things going at once lol
[12:27] <eagles0513875> got intrepid installing on my laptop onto a usb
[12:28] <alepot> I like LTS releases :)
[12:29] <eagles0513875> meh i always upgrade when a new one comes out
[12:29] <alepot> too risky for me - I like to wait for the breakages to be fixed
[12:29] <alepot> I run production servers here
[12:30] <eagles0513875> thats different
[12:30] <eagles0513875> i got a vm on this machine right now running shoutcast and soon to be dovecot
[12:30] <eagles0513875> have u used dovecot in ubuntu server or kubuntu
[12:30] <alepot> no - I meant things like bind, dhcpd and kolab
[12:31] <tony_> hi
[12:31] <tony_> does anybody here know an irc client for GNOME
[12:32] <alepot> xchat-gnbome?
[12:32] <bazhang> tony_, xchat is one
[12:32] <alepot> *gnome
[12:32] <tony_> thanks! i'll try those now :D
[12:46] <eagles0513875> is there any way during installation to point grub to my usb pen drive instead of my hard drive
[12:47] <alepot> I read something about that recently. Youbcan
[12:49] <eagles0513875> alepot: ?
[12:49] <eagles0513875> !info youbcan
[12:49] <alepot> phone brb
[12:49] <alepot> lol you can
[12:52] <alepot> sorry about that - yes, you can tell it to boot off the usb by installing grub there - grub always boot device as hd0, IIRC
[12:53] <alepot> *always sees
[12:55] <alepot> theres a good howto here: https://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php?title=Ubuntu_USB_Install
[12:57] <eagles0513875> ill have to try it some othe rtime
[12:57] <eagles0513875> im resizing me windows partition
[12:57] <eagles0513875> to duel boot
[13:27] <EvilRoey> hello
[13:27] <EvilRoey> is Facebook's Java Photo uploader supposed to work in Konqueror?
[13:27] <EvilRoey> I have Java installed
[13:27] <EvilRoey> (32-bit)
[13:28] <EvilRoey> yet when I try and add more photos to a Facebook photo album,
[13:28] <EvilRoey> I get "loading applet"
[13:28] <EvilRoey> and that's it.
[13:36] <rmrfslash_> is jaunty in beta yet? I want my beta!
[13:37] <rmrfslash_> where are my bugs!
[13:37] <EvilRoey> here's one
[13:37] <EvilRoey> Is Facebook's Java Photo uploader supposed to work in Konqueror?  I have Java installed.  When I try and add more photos to a Facebook photo album, I get "loading applet"--and that's it.
[13:37] <Mamarok> guys, Jaunty support is in #ubuntu+1
[13:38] <rmrfslash_> If I'm not mistaken, applets just run in a jvm. So I don't see why it _shouldn't_ work
[13:38] <rmrfslash_> unless maybe you're using GCJ and not Sun Java
[13:38] <rmrfslash_> which sometimes causes problems
[13:38] <EvilRoey> using sun
[13:39] <rmrfslash_> well.... I'm out of ideas :D
[13:39] <Laruft> rmrfslash_: jaunty beta is out http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/beta/
[13:39] <rmrfslash_> u try it in firefox?
[13:39] <EvilRoey> yeah
[13:39] <EvilRoey> it works in firefox.
[13:39] <rmrfslash_> work?
[13:39] <rmrfslash_> oh
[13:39] <rmrfslash_> yeah, prolly konqueror plugin then.
[13:39] <EvilRoey> rmrfslash_:  can you prefix my name?  that way it highlights and I can now when the window's updated
[13:39] <EvilRoey> hmm
[13:39] <EvilRoey> konqueror plugin.
[13:39] <EvilRoey> ok.
[13:39] <rmrfslash_> EvilRoey: sorry
[13:40] <EvilRoey> konqueror-nsplugins is already the newest version.
[13:40] <EvilRoey> konqueror-nsplugins set to manually installed.
[13:40] <Laruft> rmrfslash_:  that link was for ubuntu, here is kubuntu http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/jaunty/beta/
[13:40] <EvilRoey> rmrfslash_:  thanks :) :)
[13:41] <rmrfslash_> EvilRoey: I dunno, I mean, I don't think people really test Konqueror compat :(
[13:42] <EvilRoey> rmrfslash_:  that's a shame! I severely dislike firefox as much as I am disappointed in Konqueror :(
[13:42] <MarkieMark1> I get photo uploaders that are incompatible with firefox at times too
[13:42] <EvilRoey> rmrfslash_:  in Konqueror and in KHTML
[13:42] <rmrfslash_> EvilRoey: Firefox has gotten bad as of late, I agree
[13:42] <EvilRoey> rmrfslash_:  there's a memory leak
[13:42] <rmrfslash_> yup
[13:42] <EvilRoey> rmrfslash_:  if you try and tag people in faceboook photos
[13:42] <rmrfslash_> big time
[13:42] <EvilRoey> it starts gobbling your memory big-time
[13:42] <EvilRoey> right
[13:42] <ibrar> Where can i found "/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts" in kbuntu 8.10
[13:43] <rmrfslash_> EvilRoey: Leave Gmail open for an hour
[13:43] <ibrar> sed  found/find
[13:43] <EvilRoey> rmrfslash_:  oh?
[13:43] <EvilRoey> ok
[13:43] <rmrfslash_> EvilRoey: you'll see some fun stuff happen
[13:43] <EvilRoey> the problems that gnu/linux has today:
[13:43] <EvilRoey> 1) games
[13:43] <rmrfslash_> EvilRoey: consistently 120% CPU
[13:43] <EvilRoey> 2) nvidia binary drivers
[13:43] <EvilRoey> 3) flash
[13:43] <EvilRoey> 4) pdf creation
[13:44] <EvilRoey> (forms, specifically)
[13:44] <EvilRoey> see a pattern?
[13:44] <EvilRoey> it's all what happens when companies refuse to GPL their drivers.
[13:44] <rmrfslash_> EvilRoey: I've been really endorsing ATI over NVIDIA lately as they've released the specs on all their chips and are now supporting open source drivers
[13:44] <EvilRoey> or programs.
[13:44] <EvilRoey> rmrfslash_:  I'm just using intel integrated graphics on my workstation
[13:45] <EvilRoey> rmrfslash_:  I see what you're saying
[13:45] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[13:45] <EvilRoey> rmrfslash_:  but I hear there's still no really good driver for ATi on Linux that's on par with the drivers for Windows
[13:45] <EvilRoey> hey ev
[13:45] <EvaLuaTe> is there any way to make kde remember window sizes for previously opened windows?
[13:46] <rmrfslash_> EvilRoey: I think we'll be reprimanded soon for going off topic
[13:46] <rmrfslash_> :D
[13:46] <rmrfslash_> we can move this convo to kubuntu-offtopic (or whatever it's called)
[13:46] <Riesh> !offtopic
[13:46] <rmrfslash_> yep
[13:46] <Riesh> :-)
[13:46] <EvilRoey> hey I didn't know that existed
[13:47] <EvilRoey> thanks
[13:47] <EvaLuaTe> any idea anyone?
[13:48] <rmrfslash_> I think compiz can style individual windows
[13:48] <EvaLuaTe> do i have to add a rule for each program in the 'System Settings -> window behavior' and set 'Size' to 'Remember' or is there an easier way?
[13:48] <EvaLuaTe> rmrfslash_: i like kdm as window manager, this is the only thing that i can't figure out how to do ...
[13:49] <rmrfslash_> maybe kubuntu has something similar in it's native compositing implementation
[13:49] <rmrfslash_> System Prefs > Windows
[13:49] <rmrfslash_> or there could be another way..... I dunno.
[13:50] <margaret> If I am using the hardware drivers application in 8.10 for my wireless card and it's got "fwcutter is a tool which can extract firmware from various source files.It's written for BCM43xx driver files." and the driver option is greyed out does that mean I cannot use it?
[13:52] <rmrfslash_> I'm really not too sure Evaluate, just something I thought I'd spew out. There could be another, easier way.
[13:52] <rmrfslash_> EvaLuaTe: I need to really start putting people's names first ;)
[13:52] <Newbee> hello everybody
[13:52] <EvaLuaTe> rmrfslash_: yeah, i read what you said ...
[13:53] <Newbee> does anyone out here know what to do to make strigi work in Kubuntu jaunty?
[13:53] <Newbee> when I enable it in the systemsettings, it just tells me, that it is not running.
[13:53] <eagles0513875> Newbee:  join the ubuntu+1 channel for jaunty support
[13:53] <eagles0513875> this is support for the current intrepid release
[13:54] <EvaLuaTe> rmrfslash_: i tried setting the 'Placement' to 'Smart' in the 'System Settings -> Window Behaviour' and it seems to work pretty fine. i'm curios if it will remember the pidgin conversation window sized :D
[13:54] <Newbee> eagles0513875: ok, thanks. I didn ' t know that.
[13:54] <eagles0513875> im having trouble connecting to my wifi network with the bc43xx and the network manager im showing that there is a proprietary driver for it
[13:54] <eagles0513875> no prob Newbee
[13:54] <Newbee> is there a kubuntu+1 channel too?
[13:54] <eagles0513875> ubuntu+1 for all versions of jaunty Newbee
[13:56] <Newbee> eagles0513875: ok, thanks
[13:56] <MarcoPau> hello, my alt gr key is seen (checked with xev) as left alt key. how do I correct its setting?
[13:56] <Laruft> EvaLuaTe: there is no help either on what placement implies on that advanced tab :-(
[13:57] <eagles0513875> no prob Newbee
[13:57] <Laruft> I assume it means position of a new window
[13:57] <brazilla> beta fine already?
[13:58] <eagles0513875> ?
[13:58] <Laruft> eagles did you read the error messages in the system log file?
[13:58] <brazilla> i mean if it runs fine already :)
[13:58] <EvaLuaTe> Laruft: yeah, i noticed there's no help. i just hope it will behave like i expect it to :p
[13:59] <Laruft> I had issues with wifi card before, v1 linksys wpc54gs card.  tried all sorts.  ndiswrapper/fwcutter etc
[13:59] <picketfence> Is this where Kubuntu Newbies come for help?
[13:59] <eagles0513875> yes
[14:00] <eagles0513875> just ask your question if anyone knows they will answer
[14:00] <picketfence> How do I unpack a .rar file?
[14:00] <eagles0513875> !rar
[14:00] <cinex> picketfence: unrar
[14:00] <cinex> or
[14:00] <cinex> sudo apt-get install unrar
[14:00] <cinex> and then you can use ark
[14:00] <picketfence> Oh, cool. Ok.
[14:01] <picketfence> I'm in the process of installing LimeWire at the moment.
[14:01] <cinex> picketfence: don't do it lol
[14:01] <picketfence> But I'll definitely do the apt-get
[14:01] <picketfence> No LimeWire? Why not?
[14:01] <cinex> limewire is awful
[14:01] <eagles0513875> in usa yes
[14:01] <eagles0513875> but in europe its not lol
[14:01] <picketfence> Ok, then I'll just move.  :-)
[14:02] <cinex> picketfence: I think you will need java for limewire
[14:02] <picketfence> I see your point.......
[14:02] <picketfence> Yeah, I just noticed that. :-(
[14:02] <cinex> you know how to do that/
[14:02] <picketfence> "sun-java6-jre-10-0ubuntu2" failed to install or upgrade.
[14:02] <picketfence> Message just popped up
[14:02] <cinex> picketfence: i just download it from java.com
[14:02] <picketfence> oh, it's not an apt-get?
[14:03] <cinex> picketfence: it is, i guess, but i just use the java.com one. and point all my apps to it.
[14:03] <brazilla> filesharing is dead
[14:03] <brazilla> go for torrent or rapidshare ;)
[14:04] <picketfence> Is it possible to get mp3s with torrent?
[14:04] <brazilla> aye
[14:04] <picketfence> I did not know that.
[14:04] <cinex> i don't think filesharing is an accepted topic in here
[14:04] <picketfence> How stable is Kubuntu supposed to be?
[14:04] <bazhang> !piracy
[14:04] <brazilla> picketfence: if you download an album you can select the tracks you want in ktorrent
[14:05] <picketfence> I ask because mine is buggin....
[14:05] <brazilla> i only mean free albums ofc :)
[14:05] <picketfence> And I'm done with the torrent topic.
[14:05] <Riesh> !o4o
[14:05] <picketfence> of course ;-)
[14:05] <brazilla> picketfence: go for ktorrent
[14:05] <picketfence> k
[14:06] <Riesh> picketfence: screen + rtorrent
[14:06] <picketfence> How stable is Kubuntu supposed to be? Mine is bugging on me.
[14:06] <brazilla> actually the kde quality is quite bad
[14:06] <brazilla> ive seen kde working better on other distros
[14:06] <brazilla> i wonder why that is
[14:07] <Guest4962> for example
[14:07] <picketfence> Sadly, it's the only distro that I have been able to use with my wireless NIC
[14:07] <brazilla> open suse works better
[14:07] <picketfence> Is there an ISO I can d/l?
[14:08] <Riesh> picketfence: what kind of iso ?
[14:08] <picketfence> for suse, or whatever works good.
[14:08] <bazhang> ask in #suse
[14:08] <brazilla> picketfence: yep, ofc, go to their homepage
[14:08] <Riesh> yes ... you can go to the website www.opensuse.org
[14:09] <picketfence> homepage. Why didn't I think of that? :-/
[14:09] <cinex> suse has a comercial and a free version  it hink
[14:09] <bazhang> offtopic for here
[14:09] <cinex> i think*
[14:09] <cinex> like redhat/fedora
[14:09] <picketfence> You're right, bazhang. Sorry about that.
[14:09] <picketfence> I have to reboot. I'll be back. But before I go, I have one question that isn't about Kubuntu, but IRC
[14:10] <picketfence> How do I register my nick?
[14:10] <cinex> ?
[14:10] <brazilla> kde quality in kubuntu is rly poor :S
[14:10] <bazhang> !register
[14:10] <cinex> /msg nickserv help
[14:10] <picketfence> Thank you.
[14:10] <bazhang> brazilla, please chat in #kubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[14:10] <brazilla> bazhang: on my way
[14:11] <picketfence> Ok, I'll be back soon. I have tons of questions.  :-)
[14:16] <Guest70304> I have problem when I play mp3, I get a lot of noise/distortion togheter with the music
[14:16] <picketfence> Ok, I think I'm back
[14:17] <Guest70304> not only mp3 any streamradio from internet
[14:17] <Guest70304> any idea?? is a problem since a few days ago
[14:19] <tony_> The K start button got replaced to a left arrow button, as well as in the widget list. I might have typed something in error that changed the start button.
[14:19] <BluesKaj> 'Morning Folks
[14:19] <picketfence> I made a directory named "downloads" so I could find everything I download through FireFox. But I can't download directly into that folder. Something about permissions. How do I change that?
[14:20] <Riesh> picketfence: sudo chown <your_username> downloads
[14:22]  * Ash-Fox wonders how he managed to create a directory without having permissions on it..
[14:22] <picketfence> I can't figure that out, either Ash-Fox
[14:24] <picketfence> Ok, got it. Thanks Riesh
[14:25] <SvennyBoy> Hallo, spricht jemand deutsch hier?
[14:25] <Riesh> SvennyBoy: nein
[14:25] <Riesh> !de
[14:25] <SvennyBoy> ok, no matter
[14:26] <SvennyBoy> how can i find more irc channels?
[14:26] <Laruft> searchirc.com
[14:26] <SvennyBoy> thanks
[14:27] <Laruft> typing /list will give you a list of all the channels on the server, but it floods Quassel client.
[14:27] <margaret> ok if use konqueror to browse to a hotmail account and some if the writing (sign out button) is messed up I can try to fix it with browser indentification, would I have to, for location, put hotmail.com or the actual webpage url when I see the error
[14:27] <Riesh> use /msg alis list "what you want to search for"
[14:27] <SvennyBoy> perfect! thanks alot!
[14:28] <picketfence> Margaret: I've used hotmail.com before and that fixed the problem
[14:28] <BluesKaj> tony_, you can add the kmenu icon by adding widgets , it's in the list
[14:28] <Dillizar> hey i have a 400mhz laptop with 128ram ( for now) can i install xubuntu and then KDE 3.5.10 will thw kde work on this mashine? with noe effects no nada
[14:29] <BluesKaj> Dillizar, it'll run but it'll be a bit slow , if you upgrade the Ram to 256 , that will make quite difference for you.
[14:29] <margaret> picketfence: did you put the exact url or just hotmail.com or windows.live.com or windows.live.com/defaultblahblahblah?
[14:30] <picketfence> margaret: I used http://windows.live.com
[14:30] <margaret> and which setting did you use IE 6 or firefox 2.0?
[14:30] <picketfence> Set it to IE6
[14:30] <margaret> ok thank you
[14:30] <picketfence> np
[14:31] <ibrar> I have updated the /etc/network/interfaces to SET ip address of interfaces, but kbuntu is not picking up these IP
[14:32] <picketfence> Can I apt-get Pidgin, or do I have to download it?
[14:33] <Dillizar> picketfence
[14:33] <Dillizar> sudo apt-get install pidgen
[14:33] <picketfence> thanks
[14:33] <Dillizar> try this
[14:34] <picketfence> Ok, now it's working. I don't know what I was doing wrong earlier.
[14:35] <Dillizar> you need install
[14:35] <Dillizar> and put pidgin not Pidgin
[14:35] <Dillizar> !info pidgin
[14:35] <picketfence> Um, ok. I capitalized it, and it's getting anyway.
[14:36] <ibrar> ?
[14:36] <Riesh> picketfence: you can use the up arow to see commands you typed earleir ... compare with the latest and you see what you did wrong
[14:36] <picketfence> Riesh: I had tried getting it before I found KIRC
[14:36] <picketfence> It was like yesterday night.
[14:37] <picketfence> But since I capitalized pidgin, does that mean I'm getting the wrong one?
[14:37] <picketfence> It looks like it just installed something.
[14:38] <Riesh> I get: "E: Couldn't find package Pidgin"
[14:38] <picketfence> Great. It's done, but I have no idea where it went.
[14:39] <Riesh> Kmenu > Applications > internet
[14:39] <picketfence> Oh, I see it. Thanks:-)
[14:40] <picketfence> Um, now I'm being told that two packages are no longer required...
[14:40] <picketfence> linux-headers-2.6.27-7-generic
[14:40] <ibrar> Any body tells me any thing wrong in kbuntu to set IP address static
[14:40] <picketfence> and linux headers-2.6.27-7
[14:40] <ibrar> I have updated the /etc/network/interfaces to SET ip address of interfaces, but kbuntu is not picking up these IP
[14:40] <Riesh> sudo apt-get autoremove
[14:41] <picketfence> I just wanted to make sure it was safe to do. Doesn't Linux need the headers to load up?
[14:41] <Riesh> ibrar: if you can to use the old way of managing the interfaces you have to uninstall network-manager
[14:42] <ibrar> So whats the new way?
[14:42] <ibrar> Actually I want to set IP using script
[14:42] <ibrar> not by GUI
[14:42] <Riesh> with network-manager ... but i always find it difficult to set a static IP with it
[14:42] <picketfence> How do I move certain windows to the other desktop?
[14:43] <Riesh> picketfence: right click on the title bar on the top of the window ....
[14:44] <Riesh> and choose To Desktop >
[14:44] <ibrar> Yes network-manager sucks! actually i dont know why we are changing things
[14:44] <picketfence> Thank you.
[14:44] <Riesh> network manager is nice with wireless and DHCP ... on my laptop ...
[14:44] <picketfence> I have to go, but knowing me, I'll be back soon.
[14:45] <BluesKaj> ibrar,http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/setting-a-static-ip-in-kubuntu-8.10....-690093/
[14:47] <MarcoPau> anybody knows how to change the creation date of a file?
[14:51] <Laruft> Marco, try touch command perhaps
[14:54] <Laruft> if i am replacing a distro, what should I copy off and restore besides entirity of home folder
[14:55] <ibrar_> riesh: I have uninstall it and still kubuntu is not picking static ip
[14:56] <BluesKaj> are behind a router ibrar , if so you'll have to change the setting from dynamic to static
[14:56] <BluesKaj> in the rourer
[14:56] <BluesKaj> err router
[14:56] <picketfence> Told you I'd be back. :-)
[14:57] <picketfence> Perhaps this question isn't for this room. If not, please don't yell at me; I'm sensitive. ;-)
[14:57] <MarcoPau> Laruft: I'm checking that out, thanks for the hint
[14:57] <picketfence> I finally installed Java Sun, but now when I try to install LimeWire, it starts, then just goes away.
[14:57] <picketfence> And I can't find it anywhere on the K menu
[14:58] <Laruft> open a shell and type limewire
[14:58] <Laruft> see what it says
[14:58] <ibrar_> No I am not behind router, just want to change my Ip dynamc to static
[14:58] <BluesKaj> limewire has alinux equivalent , just can't recall the name
[14:58] <bazhang> !frostwire
[14:59] <Riesh> ibrar_: you sure you have the right config in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[14:59] <picketfence> bash: limewire: command not found
[14:59] <picketfence> I'll check out frostwire
[15:00] <BluesKaj> !ifconf
[15:00] <BluesKaj> oops
[15:00] <Riesh> !ifup ?
[15:00] <ibrar_> riesh: yup
[15:00] <BluesKaj> !ifconfig
[15:00] <Laruft> !ifcfg
[15:00] <Laruft> lol
[15:01] <Riesh> You also have above the interface "auto eth0" ... or whatever your interface si
[15:01] <Riesh> is
[15:01] <Riesh> ?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> run ifconfig in the terminal
[15:02] <ibrar_> i just did that and no ip address just the interfaces
[15:02] <Ash-Fox> Scroll up.
[15:03] <ibrar_> if I set IP address using GUI it shows up
[15:03] <picketfence> How do I see how much disk space I have left?
[15:03] <Riesh> picketfence: df -h
[15:04] <picketfence> Wow, I'll have to remember that. I have less space left than I thought!
[15:04] <Riesh> picketfence: sudo apt-get clean :-)
[15:05] <picketfence> oh yeah? Ok, I'll try that as soon as apt-get is done with firefox
[15:05] <picketfence> What exactly is Qt?
[15:06] <Riesh> it will throw away archive packages ... normally you don't ned to keep them on the drive
[15:06] <BluesKaj> !Qt
[15:07] <picketfence> Oh, ok. I just wondered.
[15:08] <picketfence> Here we go again. Kubuntu is bugging out on me. What causes the mouse to be in several places at once? and then leave trails that don't go away?
[15:09] <margaret> doesn anyone know if there is a web site advisor app/addon for konqueror?
[15:09] <margaret> -n
[15:12] <BluesKaj> margaret, web site advisor app/addon for konqueror? err, can you explain what you mean ?
[15:13] <BluesKaj> konqueror has fallen behind the other browsers in it's ability to render pages , I tried to hang on but I finally gave up and installedd FF
[15:13] <BluesKaj> BBL ..errands
[15:15] <Riesh> BluesKaj: maybe you can try webkitkde ...
[15:15] <Riesh> can use webkit to render in konqueror
[15:19] <picketfence> I found and installed java, then did apt-get for frostwire.
[15:19] <picketfence> Now it tells me Java is not in my PATH.
[15:19] <picketfence> What gives?
[15:19] <ibrar> I am back!
[15:20] <ibrar> I am still failed to set static IP address for my kubuntu 8.10
[15:21] <ibrar> > iface eth0 inet static
[15:21] <ibrar> > address <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:21] <ibrar> > netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:21] <ibrar> > network <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:21] <ibrar> > broadcast <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:21] <ibrar> > gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:21] <ibrar> is my /etc/network/interfaces
[15:22] <Riesh> ibrar: did you put auto eth0 before that ?
[15:23] <ibrar> Previosuly it was there but I removed it and added "iface eth0 inet static"
[15:23] <Riesh> You have to put auto eth0 before that ... otherwise it will not automatically set up
[15:23] <ibrar> I think kubutu is not picking it from "/etc/network/interfaces" file
[15:23] <Riesh> i just have it set like that
[15:23] <ibrar> Let me add it again
[15:24] <picketfence> How do I add Java to my PATH?
[15:24] <Riesh> But i only have address, netmask and gateway as options
[15:25] <ibrar> Nothing happends
[15:26] <dwidmann> picketfence: export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/java
[15:26] <Riesh> ibrar: what if you remove broadcast & network
[15:26] <picketfence> thanks
[15:27] <ibrar> riesh: Its same behaviour
[15:27] <ibrar> riesh: I think I have to reinstall network-manager comes with kubutu and try this
[15:28] <BluesKaj> ibrar, what kind of net connection are you using dsl, cable ?
[15:28] <ibrar> simple ethernet
[15:29] <hiena> !cabextract
[15:29] <noren> hi all
[15:29] <hiena> !info cabextract
[15:33] <rickey> hey fox
[15:33] <foxfire> hey rick
[15:35] <rickey> my adept manger crashed ,i need the sudo command to unlock it
[15:36] <Dragnslcr> !aptfix
[15:38] <rickey> is there anyone here awake ,like real pepole??
[15:38] <Dragnslcr> Nope
[15:39] <Tm_T> define real pepole
[15:39]  * Riesh zzzzz
[15:39] <rickey> ooooooooooooo i love this channel
[15:39] <noren> rickywhat do u want
[15:40] <noren> !ot | rickey
[15:41] <Tm_T> noren: well that was hesitant one
[15:41] <noren> why
[15:41] <Tm_T> nothing, carry on
[15:43] <beardbar> whats a quick way to see what video driver version im runing
[15:44] <noren> i guess lsmode
[15:45] <roBBerto> ciao
[15:45] <roBBerto> c'è nessuno?
[15:46] <Tm_T> beardbar: hmmm, quick way is difficult thing to find out, but one way is to look what your xorg log contains
[15:46] <roBBerto> sono così antipatico?
[15:46] <Tm_T> beardbar: like this: grep -A 10 xorg/modules/driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:46] <Tm_T> !br | roBBerto
[15:46] <BluesKaj> !it | roBBerto
[15:47] <noren> Tm_T: wen we press aroww key in the konsole it gives us the last command run by us which is file tht it storest all the previous command run by us
[15:48] <Tm_T> noren: .bash_history
[15:48] <Tm_T> usually
[15:48] <Daskreech> noren in ~
[15:48] <noren> hey Daskreech after long time
[15:48] <Daskreech> if not there is ~/.history
[15:48] <Daskreech> hi noren
[15:49] <noren> where is this file i cant find it
[15:49] <Daskreech> noren: in ~
[15:50] <noren> oh thanks is there any limit how much it can store
[15:50] <Daskreech> yes
[15:50] <Daskreech> $HISTLIMIT
[15:51] <Daskreech> I think it's set to 500 by default
[15:51] <Tm_T> HISTSIZE
[15:51] <Tm_T> and yes 500 by default
[15:51] <Tm_T> I use 5000 these days
[15:51] <Daskreech> HISTSIZE :)
[15:51] <Daskreech> Just found it
[15:51] <Tm_T> Daskreech: see what I said above (:)
[15:51] <Daskreech> Tm_T: Do you have your commands compressed ?
[15:52] <Tm_T> Daskreech: compressed?
[15:52] <noren> how did u find out that
[15:52] <Daskreech> Tm_T: If you do the same command twice does it compress it to one command?
[15:52] <Tm_T> I do have ignoreboth and ignoredubs
[15:52] <Tm_T> Daskreech: yes, ofcourse
[15:52] <Daskreech> ok yeah
[15:52] <Daskreech> Why 5000 then?
[15:52] <Daskreech> YOu use the command line a lot?
[15:52] <Tm_T> only ~20 shells running in my desktop(s)
[15:53] <noren> how cna i configure the same
[15:53] <Daskreech> YEah I nonmrally ahve about 8
[15:53] <Tm_T> noren: it's all in .bashrc
[15:53] <Tm_T> ~/.bashrc I mean
[15:53] <Daskreech> noren:  in blast you Tm_T
[15:53] <noren> noren:  in blast you Tm_T ??
[15:54] <Tm_T> noren: Daskreech is just bit grumpy as I was faster
[15:54] <Daskreech> noren: I was talking to you and he answered first
[15:54] <Tm_T> even when I'm old and slow and doing other thing
[15:54] <Daskreech> I just woke up so I'm hungry
[15:54] <Daskreech> and grumpy
[15:54] <Daskreech> :-|
[15:58] <BluesKaj> Daskreech , gumpy ..you ? .. I don't beleive it :)
[15:58] <BluesKaj> grumpy that is
[15:58] <Daskreech> Dopey?
[15:58] <Daskreech> how about Sneezy?
[15:59] <ibrar_> Got it
[15:59] <ibrar_> riesh:
[15:59] <BluesKaj> Sleepy?
[16:00]  * Daskreech tries to remember more of the dwarves
[16:00] <Riesh> ?
[16:00] <Riesh> ibrar_: tell :-)
[16:01] <ibrar_> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/
[16:01] <ibrar_> We should remove dhcp client too
[16:01] <hiena> !offtopic
[16:01] <ibrar_> 8.10 has a bug
[16:01] <Daskreech> or tell it to stop checking at least
[16:01] <Daskreech> hi mtux
[16:02] <noren> hiena: offtopic who ??
[16:02] <mtux> hey Daskreech
[16:02] <Daskreech> how are you?
[16:02] <mtux> Daskreech: fine, :) thanks
[16:02] <Daskreech> How is Bilbo ?
[16:02] <Riesh> ibrar_: aha ... nice to know you have it working now
[16:03] <mtux> Daskreech: It's fine too :D
[16:03] <Daskreech> I'm installing choqok in Jackalope but it's not popping up in the menu is that supposed to happen?
[16:03] <ibrar_> atleast, but really worry. Linux was built for networking and kubutu/ubutu has these kind of bugs
[16:04] <noren> hey guys wen we move some thing from one partitionn to other does it really move the files physically on the harddisk or only in ftab
[16:04] <cinex> physically
[16:04] <Daskreech> ibrar_: Ubuntu != linux
[16:04] <Daskreech> linux is a good deal broader than ubuntu
[16:04] <cinex> ubuntu does equal linux
[16:04] <cinex> linus != ubuntu
[16:04] <cinex> linux*
[16:05] <mtux> Daskreech: hmm, I think it should
[16:05] <noren> cinex: agreed
[16:05] <Daskreech> cinex: that mathematically does not make sense :-P
[16:05] <cinex> it is linux
[16:05] <ibrar_> how you can say linux != ubuntu
[16:05] <cinex> because linux can be more than ubuntu, it can be redhat
[16:05] <cinex> but ubuntu cannot be windows
[16:05] <cinex> it cant be unix
[16:06] <gmiernicki> wow, this looks like a good topic
[16:06] <Daskreech> speaking on the state of ubuntu does not speak about the state of linux
[16:06] <ibrar_> I think linux <= ubuntu
[16:06] <Daskreech>  speaking about the state of linux does not speak about the staet of ubuntu
[16:06] <ibrar_> and linux <= redhat
[16:06] <cinex> linux >=ubuntu
[16:06] <Daskreech> they are tied
[16:06] <Riesh> :-\it's like "a dog is an animal, but not all animals are dogs"
[16:06] <cinex> yes Riesh
[16:06] <ibrar_> how linux >=ubuntu
[16:07] <noren> how to check the md5 from console
[16:07] <Daskreech> but one can be masked or broken by the other
[16:07] <cinex> do == animanl but animal != dog
[16:07] <cinex> do = dpg
[16:07] <cinex> dog
[16:07]  * cinex questions his logic
[16:07] <noren> SUPPORT CHANNEL HELP ME
[16:07] <noren> :)
[16:08] <ibrar_> So ubutu is dog or linux ;)
[16:08] <Riesh> md5sum xxxx
[16:08] <Daskreech> yellow dog!
[16:08] <Daskreech> noren: what was the question ?
[16:08] <noren> do i need to installs some software seperatly
[16:08] <Riesh> noren md5sum is a program to check md5
[16:08] <Daskreech> ?
[16:08] <cinex> noren: for what?
[16:08] <noren> checking MD5 from cli
[16:08] <Daskreech> noren: ask a different question :)
[16:08] <Daskreech> noren: no md5sum is installed
[16:09] <ibrar_> noren : openssl can help you
[16:09] <Daskreech> just type md5sum /path/to/file
[16:09] <beardbar> nvidia came out with a new version of its linux driver that supposedly fixes eve online crashes, I have version 180.29 but need to upgrade to 180.44 I am unsure of how to go about it properlly and havent found any documentation yet through google, can someone help?
[16:10] <mot> question
[16:10] <cinex> bearbar www.nvidia.com will have a driver for install
[16:10] <mot> in jaunty beta, what packaged do i need to install knetworkmanager and get rid of that stupid nm-applet ?
[16:10] <cinex> might cause you problems though if u don't remove the ubuntu version first
[16:10] <Daskreech> beardbar: if you are getting it from nVidia's site they will have instructions there
[16:10] <mot> it won't save my settings, and i much prefer knetworkmanager
[16:11] <Daskreech> mot: sudo apt-gt install knetworkmanager ?
[16:11] <mot> i installed knetworkmanager and the networkmanager service, and it shows wireless networks however when i click one of them to connect nothing happens.
[16:11] <mot> if i connect via the nm-applet, then knetworkmanager shows activity (like connecting) but i want to totally separate myself from the nm-applet because it's crap
[16:12] <MarcoPau> I got a whole bunch of problems in my keyboard according to xev. is there any tool in kde to remap the keyboard?
[16:12] <Daskreech> cause they changed the interfce for networkmanager7 and knetworkmanager hasn't been updated to use it
[16:12] <noren> MarcoPau: just correct your keyboard setting
[16:13] <MarcoPau> noren: how? I'm trying xkeycaps but it's not giving any result
[16:13] <MarcoPau> actually I lost some other keys
[16:15] <noren> !keyboard
[16:16] <ubuntu_> !resolution
[16:29] <slow-motion> hi
[16:30] <cinex> hi
[16:30] <Laruft> will kde 3.5 apps work ok in 4.2?  or will they cause system unstablitity?  what are the implications?
[16:31] <Daskreech> Laruft: yes
[16:31] <Daskreech> they work
[16:31] <Daskreech> it's just like having a Gnome application run
[16:31] <Daskreech> it just calls different libraries
[16:32] <Laruft> just wonder why quassel was included instead of konversation  if konv works..
[16:32] <pestilence> so i installed jaunty beta, and type "amarok".  some program comes up that is named "amarok" but is definitely not the amarok i've been using (all of my podcasts are gone!)  why did you take away the real amarok???
[16:32] <cinex> pestilence: are you running some plugin or other to make it seem diffreent ?
[16:32] <Laruft> amarok wasn't upgraded to use kde 4.2 yet.. lol
[16:33] <pestilence> cinex: no.  it is "amarok 2", which is a totally different program than the original amarok
[16:33] <Laruft> ah ok
[16:33] <cinex> ohhhhhh
[16:33] <Dragnslcr> pestilence- well, it's a new version of Amarok, yes
[16:34] <pestilence> Dragnslcr: i agree that technically that is true.  but for end users this is false.
[16:34] <pestilence> all user data is gone
[16:34] <beardbar> thansk Daskreech that worked the charm
[16:34] <pestilence> this is *not* an upgrade...this is changing the program completely and saying "screw you" to all previous amarok users
[16:34] <Dragnslcr> I dunno, I don't really use it. Not sure how it handles converting user settings
[16:35] <JontheEchidna> you can import your collection and stuff
[16:35] <beardbar> anyone know how to get to the wine folder via dolphin?
[16:35] <pestilence> Dragnslcr: it doesn't.
[16:35] <pestilence> JontheEchidna: can you import podcasts?
[16:35] <JontheEchidna> dunno
[16:35] <JontheEchidna> I don't really listen to podcasts
[16:35]  * pestilence just realized my rant may need to go into the +1 channel...
[16:36] <Laruft> beardbar, .wine is in home folder
[16:36] <Laruft> you need to enable show hidden files via view menu
[16:38] <beardbar> thanks, i thought so, i guess im just dumb and cant find the settings for that in dolphin though :(
[16:38] <Daskreech> beardbar: alt+>
[16:38] <Daskreech> alt+.
[16:38] <Daskreech> sorry
[16:38] <Daskreech> all hidden files start with a .
[16:38] <Daskreech> so it's easy to remember
[16:38] <Daskreech> Laruft: Space
[16:38] <Marfi> Is KDE-looks down? I keep getting a weird message
[16:39] <Laruft> alt and dot key
[16:39] <Laruft> space?? lol
[16:40] <Dragnslcr> Marfi- http://www.kde-look.org/ works for me
[16:40] <beardbar> awsome, thanks guys
[16:40] <Laruft> works here too
[16:41] <Daskreech> Laruft: they are moving to all KDE4 apps to save sapce
[16:41] <Laruft> ah right I see
[16:41] <Laruft> << n00b lol
[16:42] <Daskreech> Eitherwise they have to ship all of KDE4 libraries and support apps and all of KDE3 libraries and support apps
[16:42] <Daskreech> Sort of like when Gnome went to GNOME2 and Gnucash refused to move
[16:43] <Daskreech> so they had to hsip GNOME1 for years just so people could use GnuCash
[16:43] <Daskreech> ship
[16:44] <Laruft> so no implications using kde3 apps still, besides having to d/l the support files as they are not on distribution any more
[16:45] <Daskreech> Right
[16:45] <Daskreech> a CD can only hold so much
[16:45] <genii> Especially for a livecd
[16:46] <Marfi> thanks Dragnslcr
[16:46] <Daskreech> word
[16:47] <Dragnslcr> I thought the KDE4 version of Konversation was almost done?
[16:47] <Daskreech> Dragnslcr: Not fast enough
[16:48] <Dragnslcr> That's too bad, I like Konversation
[16:48] <Dragnslcr> Haven't tried Quassel yet
[16:49] <BOZG> Isn't there a SVN for the KDE4 version?
[16:49] <Daskreech> Dragnslcr: It may be available in Jackalope once it's done but right now it certainly cannt be shipped as default
[16:49] <Daskreech> BOZG: There is a git for the new kernel coming out as well. we aren't shipping that :)
[16:50] <Dragnslcr> I should try playing around with Quassel before 9.04 comes out
[16:50] <Daskreech> IT's in Ibex
[16:50] <Daskreech> but is a good deal nicer for Jackalope
[16:51] <Daskreech> they have been working with Kubuntu to make changes to make it easier to use
[16:52] <BluesKaj> I'm using jaunty beta and i find it more graphically stable than Intrepid ...I don't like the name "jaunty" much tho :P
[16:52] <MsK`> hi
[16:52] <MsK`> is there a "quicklaunch icon" plasmoid somewhere ?
[16:52] <jhutchins_wk> BluesKaj: So call it Jackalope instead.
[16:52] <Daskreech> MsK`: That does what?
[16:52] <MsK`> Daskreech, launchs an application
[16:52] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, that's worse :)
[16:52] <Daskreech> MsK`: alt+F2 ?
[16:53] <MsK`> Daskreech, not really, it's an icon and when you click on it, it launches an application
[16:53] <Dragnslcr> MsK`- yes, there is a Quicklaunch widget
[16:53] <Daskreech> MsK`: Just drag the app to the panel/desktop
[16:53] <THORTH> new to linux
[16:53] <Dragnslcr> (bleh, I still hate how they're using the term "widget")
[16:53] <THORTH> stupid question
[16:54] <THORTH> how comes when i download a programme (chat client) it doesnt come up on the desktop?
[16:54] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- do what I do and always use the numbers for versions. It's easier than remembering which name we're on
[16:54] <Daskreech> THORTH: it downloads to ~ or ~/Documents by default
[16:54] <THORTH> ?
[16:55] <Dragnslcr> THORTH- first of all, what program are you downloading? It may be in the official repositories already
[16:55] <Daskreech> THORTH: and which chat program are you downloading ?
[16:55] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, yeah, good point :)
[16:55] <THORTH> okay
[16:55] <THORTH> Dragnslcr:  bitchx
[16:55] <Daskreech> !info bitchx
[16:55] <MsK`> Daskreech, ok, an icon appeared on my desktop but I can't managed to put it in the taskbar, is there some trick for that ?
[16:55] <THORTH> ??
[16:55] <Dragnslcr> THORTH- what browser are you using? I know Firefox by default always saves downloads to some annoying directory
[16:55] <THORTH> ok well irrisi?
[16:55] <Daskreech> MsK`: drag it to the taskbar?
[16:55] <THORTH> Nice client
[16:56] <THORTH> firefox
[16:56] <MsK`> Daskreech, doesn't work, the icon stays behind the taskbar !
[16:56] <Dragnslcr> Huh, bitchx isn't in the repository?
[16:56] <THORTH> I use firefox or the one free with kubuntu
[16:56] <Daskreech> !info irssi | THORTH
[16:56] <THORTH> hrm ok
[16:56] <Daskreech> Dragnslcr: File a bug :)
[16:56] <THORTH> well this konversation client sucks lol
[16:57] <Daskreech> THORTH: what version of Kubuntu are you on ?
[16:57] <Dragnslcr> Ugh, I still can't stand the KDE4 version of Adept.  I had to put between the clock and the tray...
[17:00] <Daskreech> MsK`: :-)
[17:01] <Daskreech> MsK`: you can click the cashew at the end of the panel and drag it anywhere you want
[17:01] <Daskreech> It puts the panel in edit mode
[17:02] <MsK`> Daskreech, yup, but it disables the menu where the icon comes from, and if you click the desktop, it disables that, so it wasn't that simple, at least with my current configuration ^^
[17:02] <ScorpKing> greetings Daskreech :)
[17:03] <Daskreech> hi ScorpKing
[17:03] <Dragnslcr> I still highly recommend my Quicklaunch setup
[17:03] <Dragnslcr> Put it in an auto-hiding panel on the left edge of the screen
[17:04] <Daskreech> Dragnslcr: You highly recommend it for you :)
[17:04] <MsK`> oh, and something else
[17:04] <Dragnslcr> Hehe
[17:04] <MsK`> is it possible to hide applications from the taskbar that are not minimized ?
[17:05] <MsK`> (well, to only show in the taskbar the apps that are minimized)
[17:05] <Dragnslcr> I did say recommend, not should-be-forced-on-every-user
[17:05] <Dragnslcr> I think so
[17:05] <Daskreech> I doubt it
[17:05] <Dragnslcr> Right-click the task bar and go to settings
[17:05] <Dragnslcr> "Only show tasks that are minimized" at the bottom
[17:06] <Daskreech> Oh
[17:06] <Daskreech> only minimized
[17:06] <Daskreech> ok
[17:06] <Daskreech> don't always get caught by no double negatives
[17:07] <ep> Where is there wiki or FAQ for installing libdvdcss2 on kubuntu?  I've used adept package manager to add multiverse repository but that didn't help.
[17:07] <Daskreech> !dvd
[17:09] <MsK`> KDE3 was easy to use and full featured, KDE4 has even more features but definitely needs a lot of ergonomy tests...
[17:09] <MsK`> I can't access the task bar settings, but I already gone there today...
[17:10] <Dragnslcr> MsK`- did you lock the panel?
[17:10] <MsK`> locked and unlocked again, I'm trying everything ^^
[17:11] <Dragnslcr> Nothing happens when you right-click the task bar?
[17:11] <MsK`> oh yes, I have a handful of menus
[17:11] <MsK`> none of them is the one I want ^^
[17:11] <Daskreech> ytou have to rigth click the taskbar not the apps
[17:11] <Daskreech> oh here is an easy waty
[17:11] <Dragnslcr> You don't get "Task Manager Settings"?
[17:11] <Daskreech>  put it in edit mode then right click the taskbar
[17:12] <MsK`> it moves the taskbar
[17:13] <puddle> lol Daskreech your right lol thanks
[17:13] <puddle> haha didnt even realise all it was down to was f >>2
[17:13] <puddle> hehe
[17:14] <MsK`> ok, I think that in few minutes I will download kubuntu x64 hardy to get a beautiful KDE 3 ! :]
[17:14] <MsK`> (is it possible to have KDE3 with intrepid ? I mean, right from the beginning to avoid having KDE3 and 4 on the same system...)
[17:14] <genii> MsK`: Since kde3 is not shipped with versions after Hardy, no
[17:15] <MsK`> ok so go for hardy and I will update when KDE4 will be usable and finished
[17:15] <XKiLL3R> Hi aLL
[17:15] <XKiLL3R> Any1 can help ?
[17:15] <puddle> hii
[17:16] <puddle> that rules me out
[17:16] <XKiLL3R> hi puddle
[17:16] <puddle> hi
[17:16] <XKiLL3R> i have problem ...
[17:16] <genii> XKiLL3R: We need to know your problem first before help can begin
[17:16] <XKiLL3R> genii sure
[17:16] <puddle> Daskreech:  is an eintelligent guy
[17:16] <genii> mccoy20: Stop with the nick spamming please
[17:16] <puddle> ask him he might know
[17:16] <MsK`> Wow ! finally got it !
[17:17] <MsK`> right clicking on the taskbar on a desktop with less windows opened helped...
[17:17] <Daskreech> one moment
[17:17] <XKiLL3R> i have downloaded kubuntu 8.10 , burn it to a cd then try to install it like "inside windows" and after restart when i try to login 4 it it gives me a blank screen
[17:17] <MsK`> ok, there isn't any "Only show tasks that are minimized"
[17:17] <XKiLL3R> I've tried it like a live cd too and it doesn't work
[17:17] <XKiLL3R> ubuntu give same problem
[17:17] <XKiLL3R> it's 64bit
[17:18] <Dragnslcr> MsK`- what version of KDE?
[17:18] <MsK`> I only have "show tasks of the current desktop" and "show tasks of the current screen"
[17:18] <MsK`> 4.1 I think
[17:18] <XKiLL3R> genii u got it ?
[17:18] <MsK`> the version from intrepid with latest updates
[17:18] <Dragnslcr> Hm, maybe it's only in 4.2 then
[17:18] <puddle> grrrrrrr
[17:18] <Dragnslcr> I've been using 4.2 since it was released
[17:18] <genii> XKiLL3R: Yes, we see your question now
[17:18] <Dragnslcr> Quite an improvement over 4.1
[17:19] <MsK`> you compiled it yourself or is there a kubuntu repository ?
[17:19] <XKiLL3R> genii k Thx ,,, waitin 4 ur help :)
[17:19] <MsK`> I have universe, multiverse and main enabled
[17:19] <Dragnslcr> MsK`- link is in the channel topic
[17:19] <MsK`> (wow, multi and universe by default ? that's new)
[17:19] <Dragnslcr> I think you have to enable backports
[17:20] <MsK`> ok, I'll read that then
[17:20] <Dragnslcr> Think it's called "Unsupported updates" in Adpet
[17:20] <MsK`> I don't use adept ^^
[17:21] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[17:21] <MsK`> are you in jaunty or in intrepid + backports ?
[17:21] <Dragnslcr> I always try to answer questions with the graphical solutions. Doing my small part to get rid of the Linux-requires-shell mentality
[17:22] <Dragnslcr> I'm on 8.10 still. I don't usually try the version betas. Plus I need to reinstall when 9.04 comes out so I can set up RAID
[17:22] <Daskreech> ok abck
[17:23] <MsK`> Dragnslcr, ok and no bugs so far ?
[17:23] <Daskreech> MsK`: what?
[17:23] <MsK`> (how far actually ? ^^ since when are you using 4.2 ?)
[17:24] <Daskreech> MsK`: click the cashew at the end then right click the task manager
[17:24] <MsK`> Daskreech, I'm going to enable backports to upgrade to KDE 4.2
[17:24] <Dragnslcr> I've been using 4.2 since the day it was officially released
[17:24] <Daskreech> it will ignore all other menus and give you only the configuration menu for that plasmoid and the panel
[17:24] <MsK`> Daskreech, I don't have the option you told me in this version of KDE
[17:24] <Dragnslcr> I've seen a few stray rendering bugs, but nothing that makes it unusable
[17:25] <Daskreech> MsK`: ok KDE 4.2 :)
[17:25] <Daskreech> MsK`: KDE 4.2.0 is in Unsupported updates in Dept
[17:26] <Daskreech> If you want 4.2.1,2,3 etc the link is in the topic
[17:26] <MsK`> Daskreech, Dragnslcr already explained that but thanks ^^
[17:26]  * Dragnslcr > Daskreech
[17:26] <Daskreech> MsK`: Yeah going through the backlog so just catching up
[17:27] <Daskreech> XKiLL3R: you installed it inside of windows ?
[17:30] <MsK`> http://lywenn.eu.org/duh < that doesn't seem right for an update from KDE 4.1 to 4.2, don't you think ?
[17:30] <Daskreech> MsK`: Umm where are you getting that from?
[17:31] <MsK`> from my shell ^^
[17:31] <MsK`> sorry I forgot one step in the process
[17:31] <beleal> хай всем
[17:31] <Daskreech> !ru
[17:32] <MsK`> ok I also need to add the "recommended updates"
[17:32] <MsK`> oh, it's already enabled...
[17:38] <MsK`> well, let's update and see...
[17:38] <walbert> Hey guys, I have an old nvidia card on my laptop which causes nvidia's proprietary drivers to crash every time the operating system tries to resume from a suspend to memory/or/disk.  How can I configure Kubuntu to just shut down when it encounters low battery / lots of idle time, rather than trying to suspend?
[17:41] <josh-l> hi folks, can anyone help me figure out how to get the gimpi toolbar to appear in the kde panel?
[17:44] <Daskreech> what is gimpi?
[17:45] <josh-l> sorry typo, meant gimp
[17:46] <Daskreech> I was hoping that wasn't what you meant :)
[17:46] <Daskreech> huh?
[17:46] <josh-l> why
[17:46] <Daskreech> you want the gimp toolbar embedded in the KDE panel?
[17:47] <josh-l> Daskreech: not embedded just to show up as a normal window does in the taskmanager
[17:50] <Daskreech> josh-l: Oh Umm.. it doesn't? isn't GImp 3 independent windows?
[17:50] <Daskreech>  or did they change that in the last update?
[17:50] <josh-l> Daskreech: dunno but installing gimp on jaunty gives me gimp 2.6.6
[17:52] <Daskreech> josh-l: I'd pop into #gimp and ask if that's still the case I recall they were changing the window model
[17:53] <josh-l> ok thx
[17:53] <josh-l> tried #kde no answer
[17:53] <Daskreech> IT may just be that the toolbar isn't a window anymore
[17:56] <josh-l> Daskreech: perfect got it from #gimp, just needed to change window management window hint settings in gimp
[17:56] <josh-l> preferences
[17:59] <MsK`> ok, this just seems to be 10 times better ! :D
[17:59] <MsK`> (the only bad thing for the moment is the ugly wallpaper ^^')
[18:00] <MsK`> woohoo, desktop switching with the mousewheel is back !
[18:01] <MsK`> ok, "only show tasks that are minimized" is there but doesn't work :|
[18:02] <Dragnslcr> Seems to work right for me
[18:02] <MsK`> oh ! I think I know what's happening
[18:04] <Daskreech> Nothing is minimized!
[18:04] <MsK`> ^^
[18:05] <MsK`> no, I don't know what happened exactly, but it acted like there were two taskbars one on top of the other
[18:05] <MsK`> I removed one, and there wasn't another one behind...
[18:05] <MsK`> I added one again, and now it works
[18:05] <Daskreech> MsK`: Two panels maybe ?
[18:05] <Daskreech> dunno
[18:07] <tom_> checking whether i'm on.......
[18:07] <genii> tom_: Yes, you're here and visible
[18:08] <tom_> thanks :)
[18:08] <tom_> why are there so many people in this 'room' and nobody is speaking?
[18:10] <Daskreech> tom_: It's for support when support is needed questions come followed by answersd
[18:10] <Daskreech> when no support is needed there is no need to talk
[18:10] <josh-l> anyone use stasks for your panel? what do you think about expanding option? I like it, but wish it was somehow more intuitive... its a bit of a pain to get to windows when they expand
[18:11] <tom_> i have a question; when you join another server, does it matter what port you are connecting through?
[18:12] <Daskreech> tom_: Yes you have to join on the port the server is expecting
[18:13] <telemarketer> hi everbody
[18:14] <telemarketer> is this a good place to ask some questions about kubuntu linux ?
[18:14] <MsK`> ok, it doesn't show tasks that aren't minimized, but it doesn't show tasks that are minimized either \o/
[18:14] <Daskreech> telemarketer: Yes it is
[18:14] <MsK`> I'm not that sure :)
[18:15] <Daskreech> MsK`: logout press alt+e and log abck in I think your X server wasn't restarted
[18:15] <tom_> i just tried to join a server and when i typed, for example "hello" it would reply "hello: unknown command"
[18:15] <MsK`> oh yes it was restarted, when I logged out it crashed and I pressed ctrl alt backspace ^^
[18:16] <Daskreech> tom_: maybe whatever you were connecting to wasn't expecting a hello ?
[18:16] <Daskreech> what protocol?
[18:17] <Daskreech> MsK`: so you have an empty taskbar?
[18:17] <telemarketer> cool........I'm a slackware/kde user myself, and I'm trying to help someone with a desktop in a motel with free wifi get online and I couldn't get the wifi card to work with slackware, I was wondering about how friendly kubuntu might be towards wifi
[18:17] <phoenixz> What package do I need to have installed to have the new wifi plasma widget in kubuntu 9.04?
[18:17] <MsK`> Daskreech, when I minimize everything ? yes
[18:17] <Daskreech> telemarketer: Depeends on the wifi card :)
[18:18] <Daskreech> !wifi | telemarketer
[18:18] <tom_> i really dont understand all of this, i feel like i need to read a tutorial or something about IRC
[18:18] <Daskreech> phoenixz: It's installed by default ntwork manager
[18:19] <phoenixz> Daskreech: I upgrded from 8.10 to 9.04 beta and there is no widget available anywhere.. :(
[18:19] <telemarketer> umm......it's a enlwi-g2 pci wifi card I just bought......I got it going in windoze Xtra Pants for her
[18:19] <Daskreech> MsK`: How did you minimize all ?
[18:19] <Daskreech> telemarketer: Should be ok then Follow the steps in the page ubottu sent you
[18:20] <MsK`> pressing the \/ button at the top right of the window
[18:20] <Daskreech> phoenixz: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[18:20] <Daskreech> MsK`: works here for me
[18:20] <telemarketer> they manufacturer of that card has a driver for that card tar.gz and I unpacked it and tried to install the drivers but couldn't make it work
[18:20] <jeltsch> I have a big problem with Kubuntu Jaunty Beta. The X server often freezes. So far, this happens only when windows are opened. I’m using an ATI radeon on board chip.
[18:20] <MsK`> there is several bugs in this for the moment, all the icons of the traybar disappeared for a while
[18:20] <jeltsch> Has anyone experienced something similar?
[18:21] <MsK`> the tray bar was as wide as needed but empty, I was clicking everywhere to get the icons back and it suddenly appeared again
[18:21] <Daskreech> MsK`: traybar? you mean the system tray?
[18:21] <MsK`> hmm, I don't like the idea but I will try a reboot
[18:21] <MsK`> Daskreech, yes, sorry
[18:21] <tom_> is it okay that i'm running konversation on ubuntu rather than kubuntu?
[18:22] <Daskreech> MsK`: Ha ha sweet I didn't know you could do that before
[18:22] <Daskreech> Right clicked on a set of grouped windows and restored them all
[18:22] <Daskreech> Of course they disappeared from the taskba
[18:22] <Daskreech> tom_: IT's fine
[18:22] <telemarketer> slackware/KDE has KwifiManager but doesn't work......I'm just wondering what the success rate of wifi has been with kubuntu or ubuntu users, especially if anyone has an ENCORE pci wifi card
[18:22] <tom_> thanks
[18:23] <Daskreech> telemarketer: I can't speak specific to that card but if you do a search for the card anem and ubuntu you should find a fair number of references
[18:24] <Daskreech> genii: Kinda funny that Msk`'s login name is troll
[18:24] <telemarketer> yeah, good idea dakreech......I guess I should burn an .iso of the latest kubuntu and just try it on her machine.....
[18:24] <telemarketer> brb
[18:24] <MsK`> okay, it's a bug !
[18:24] <genii> Daskreech: Yes, i thought so as well :)
[18:26] <Daskreech> MsK`: is it replicable ?
[18:26] <telemarketer> I see on the kubuntu download page that 8.10 is called an 'installer'....is it not also a LiveCD like hardy heron ?
[18:27] <MsK`> Daskreech, well, it never fails here but I don't know the conditions to replicate it :/
[18:27] <Daskreech> MsK`: make a new user and see if they have the same thing happen
[18:27] <Daskreech> If so it's probably just a setting in your config that's off
[18:28] <jackdaxter> hy guys!
[18:28] <MsK`> that may be the reason but it still shouldn't happen :)
[18:28] <Daskreech> telemarketer: There is alternate CD that is simply and installer and a Desktop CD that's a live CD and a installer
[18:28] <jackdaxter> i have a macbook pro unibody, but audio doesn't work on kubuntu 8.10! can somebody help me?
[18:28] <tom_> what's the purpose of the tab called 'Ubuntu IRC'?
[18:28] <MsK`> and I'm not in the mood to create a dummy user on my fresh new computer and fresh new install...
[18:29] <Daskreech> MsK`: Given the power that users have in playing with their config I think saying it should never happen is asking a lot
[18:29] <Daskreech> tom_: That's the server you are connected to
[18:29] <Daskreech> If you close that all the rooms on the server are closed as well
[18:30] <jackdaxter> i'm the only macbook owner here?
[18:31] <Daskreech> if you join another server it gets it's own tab
[18:32] <tom_> is there a way to browse servers?
[18:34] <Daskreech> tom_: no
[18:35] <tom_> so you're supposed to join a server that you've had previous knowledge of, like from another website?
[18:35] <Daskreech> tom_: precisely
[18:35] <jackdaxter> somebody help meeeeeeeee!
[18:36] <tom_> ty
[18:36] <XKiLL3R> Hi all
[18:36] <Daskreech> jackdaxter: You haven't asked a question yet
[18:37] <XKiLL3R> any1 got a solution 4 my problem ?
[18:37] <XKiLL3R> genii
[18:37] <XKiLL3R> ...
[18:37] <jackdaxter> Daskreech: i have already asked, aniway....... i have no audio on kubuntu 8.10 on macbook pro unibody
[18:38] <puddle> whats the command to install something? You type the url first?
[18:38] <puddle> ??
[18:38] <XKiLL3R> Anyone can Help me ?
[18:38] <puddle> not anyone
[18:38] <puddle> But someone might
[18:38] <puddle> :L
[18:38] <XKiLL3R> :D
[18:39] <puddle> i need help to lol ><
[18:39] <XKiLL3R> :D
[18:39] <XKiLL3R> i need help :S
[18:39] <puddle> you new to linux?
[18:39] <XKiLL3R> nope
[18:39] <puddle> ah
[18:39] <puddle> ><
[18:39] <XKiLL3R> have tried ubuntu 2 years ago :D
[18:39] <puddle> Dude
[18:39] <puddle> i'm a windows user.
[18:39] <puddle> Not anymore
[18:39] <XKiLL3R> but when i got my new pc i got vista
[18:39] <XKiLL3R> yea me 2 but i am gonna go for linux nw :D
[18:39] <puddle> ?
[18:39] <puddle> same i swapt it for kubuntu.
[18:40] <XKiLL3R> yup
[18:40] <puddle> and i finally got this machine online :D
[18:40] <XKiLL3R> but kubuntu won't install 2 my pc !
[18:40] <XKiLL3R> good
[18:40] <puddle> lol why not? Ins
[18:40] <puddle> lol why not? *
[18:40] <XKiLL3R> :D
[18:40] <XKiLL3R> dun know :S
[18:40] <XKiLL3R> it gives me blank screen :S
[18:40] <puddle> Download powerISO and then to the kubuntu site
[18:40] <puddle> grab a disk
[18:41] <XKiLL3R> i
[18:41] <XKiLL3R> *i've
[18:41] <XKiLL3R> burned it wiz ultraiso
[18:41] <XKiLL3R> and burn it
[18:41] <puddle> And then just boot it. And if you want to install it when you load the kernal just press install i think
[18:41] <XKiLL3R> i've do this already
[18:41] <puddle> XKiLL3R: dude ISO is better. Trust me. :)
[18:41] <XKiLL3R> puddle it's workin dun worry
[18:41] <puddle> sorry i felt clever then. About the only think i know
[18:41] <puddle> lol
[18:41] <XKiLL3R> but i dun know why it gives me blank screen
[18:42] <XKiLL3R> :D
[18:42] <puddle> ?
[18:42] <XKiLL3R> after booting to it
[18:42] <XKiLL3R> it gives me blank
[18:42] <puddle> Will it load?
[18:42] <XKiLL3R> nope :S
[18:42] <XKiLL3R> when i choose install or try kubuntu
[18:42] <XKiLL3R> the loading bar appears
[18:42] <puddle> Ah not sure then? Perhaps you should try a different disk? check for marks and scratches
[18:43] <XKiLL3R> after it's done it gives a blank screen :S
[18:43] <XKiLL3R> tried ubuntu 8.10 too
[18:43] <puddle> Or i would suggest use a different disk one with the correct amount of memory. Install ISO and go from there :S
[18:43] <XKiLL3R> puddle ?
[18:43] <puddle> also i would advise keep windows :S
[18:43] <XKiLL3R> yea windows is the best
[18:44] <puddle> i have not tried ubuntu XKiLL3R
[18:44] <XKiLL3R> but i dun have enough money to buy
[18:44] <puddle> No XKiLL3R it is not
[18:44] <XKiLL3R> windows is the bst system @ least for me :D
[18:44] <XKiLL3R> but no money for that
[18:44] <puddle> install kubuntu on your hardrive and keep vista on disk. Im serious thats what i'll do,
[18:44] <puddle> Xp is better anyways :P
[18:44] <XKiLL3R> :D
[18:44] <XKiLL3R> Windows 7 is a killer :D
[18:44] <puddle> Trust me linux is how you make it.
[18:44] <XKiLL3R> i am runing it nw
[18:45] <puddle> Windows 7 isnt realiesed yet ?
[18:45] <XKiLL3R> RC 1
[18:45] <puddle> 3 months i think?
[18:45] <puddle> ah
[18:45] <XKiLL3R> i am confused
[18:45] <puddle> xp pro is better than vista im not sure about windows 7
[18:45] <XKiLL3R> i am trying to install linux 4 about 2 weeks :S
[18:45] <puddle> i will try it when my mates get it.
[18:45] <puddle> I will still there disk
[18:45] <seoneo> hello
[18:45] <XKiLL3R> no no Windows 7 = Vista + XP
[18:45] <puddle> i'll just say put this on disk for me xD
[18:45] <XKiLL3R> i need a helpppppppp
[18:46] <XKiLL3R> be right back
[18:46] <puddle> XKiLL3R:  all you need is xp pro and kubuntu xD
[18:46] <puddle_> ffs
[18:52] <beardbar> anyone play eve online?
[18:55] <eagles0513875> jussi01: O_O
[18:56] <MsK`> which package should I install to have glu.h with the nvidia proprietary drivers ?
[18:57] <MsK`> libglu1-mesa-dev or something else ?
[18:59] <demmon> su: Authentication failure???
[18:59] <demmon> help
[18:59] <MsK`> sudo -s
[19:02] <demmon> The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.7
[19:02] <demmon> so??
[19:02] <seoneo> hello, I have a problem with Kubuntu 8.10 64bit and dual monitor. I use a acer aspire 2930 and I plug a LG 22252S to it. I can't find a way to see both the screen with a "good" resolution. I tried to use rdesktop but it is really limited and not working so good. I also have sometimes a problem booting plugging the second monitor. X stop working and I can see just a blank screen instead of the login panel. May you please help me and let me k
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[19:13] <s4crifice> hi everyone.... :-) Ehm, I'm amateur, so I'm asking - do somebody knows where I can find the source for the Opera? Google found one nonworking....
[19:13] <Laruft> seoneo i think dual screen has been updated in the latest beta
[19:13] <jussi01> s4crifice: opera is closed afaik
[19:13] <seoneo> Laruft: so do you suggest me to upgrade to 9.04?
[19:13] <Laruft> yes
[19:14] <seoneo> is the alternative dvd supporting filesystem full encryption like the 8.10 do?
[19:14] <Laruft> well for kubuntu yes, I found kde4.1 had various bugs and problems
[19:14] <Laruft> i like the 9.04 beta, kde4.2 is great
[19:14] <jussi01> s4crifice: it means that the source is unavailble as its a comercial product.
[19:15] <seoneo> thank you very much. I'll take a look and if it is full hard disk encryption compatible I'll upgrade it :D isn't it possible to do the upgrade from apt-get isn't it?
[19:15] <seoneo> have I to download the new DVD iso and install from scratch
[19:15] <Laruft> seoneo : remember 9.04 is a beta, but I think the bug fixes and kde improvements are worth it
[19:15] <Laruft> just need the cd iso
[19:16] <seoneo> ok, thank you very much
[19:16] <Laruft> I would install from scratch, but i'm a n00b lol
[19:16] <seoneo> I'll take a look and check if it is possible to just upgrade it
[19:17] <Laruft> update-manager-kde try that
[19:17] <jussi01> s4crifice: please use the channel not pm ;)
[19:17] <Laruft> ok i need some help with quassel, how do I export the logs from the sqlite file?
[19:17] <s4crifice> jussi01: sorry.... :-) So, is there any similar browser?
[19:18] <Laruft> s4crifice: i've just installed firefox... konquerer wouldn't display some pages correctly
[19:18] <s4crifice> yeah i know firefox very well, but i miss there the dial up (not the most important...) and the password manager which was in Opera perfect....
[19:19] <coffee> bah
[19:19] <fu1ther> bah
[19:20] <Laruft> thats a point i wonder if kdewallet would handle passwords for firefox??
[19:20] <s4crifice> Aruft: yeah i know firefox very well, but i miss there the dial up (not the most important...) and the password manager which was in Opera perfect....
[19:20] <picketfence> Me again.
[19:20] <danielsantos> I have a question about partitions and linux's OS. Is it true that the root partitions of the linux's OS has to be in the begginning of the disk.
[19:20] <danielsantos> For example, i have 5 linux root partitions in the beggining of my hard disk, and then i have a huge partition only dedicated to documents (and on the end i have a swap partition). So, when i want to add another linux OS i have to resize my documents partition, which takes a lot of time, and then i do the logical partition for my new OS.
[19:20] <danielsantos> Can't i make the OS partitions in the end of the disk? will it give problems to the pc or will the OS be detected?
[19:20] <danielsantos> so that when i do to take some free space from the huge documents partition for my new linux, it is easier to resize and less time consuming.
[19:21] <danielsantos> Thanks people
[19:21] <s4crifice> Laruft: in fact, if there's a way how to install opera, i'll be happier than use firefox....
[19:21] <picketfence> Every time I put Java in my PATH it stays as long as I have a terminal working. The moment I exit out, the path reverts to default. Is there any way to stop this?
[19:21] <ockonal> hi all
[19:21] <Dashkal> Where does jockey-kde (Restricted Drivers) get its information?  I have to PCs with what I thought were identical repository configurations.  One saw the newest nvidia drivers (180) but this one doesn't.
[19:22] <picketfence> Every time I put Java in my PATH it stays as long as I have a terminal working. The moment I exit out, the path reverts to default. Is there any way to stop this?
[19:23] <ockonal> I have a question: i've updated to 9.04.. now i need to install my video-card drivers. INstaller need in linux-headers linux-headers-2.6.27-14, but there isn't this package in repo
[19:23] <ockonal> Where i can find that package?
[19:24] <Laruft> s4crifice:  i'd have thought sudo apt-get install opera would work, but it doesn't.... Package opera is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[19:24] <Laruft> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[19:24] <Laruft> is only available from another source
[19:25] <ockonal> Laruft; https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/linux/2.6.27-14.30 at this page there is source... but i don't know what i may do with them
[19:25] <picketfence> Every time I put Java in my PATH it stays as long as I have a terminal working. The moment I exit out, the path reverts to default. Is there any way to stop this?
[19:26] <danielsantos> pic, to add directories to your shell's search path temporarily, modify its PATH variable. ex: PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin
[19:27] <s4crifice> Laruft: doesn't work... ehm, maybe download the deb package? then it's without updating, or not?
[19:29] <Laeborg> !fpd
[19:29] <Laeborg> *ftpd
[19:29] <Laeborg> !ftpd
[19:29] <Laeborg> !guiftpd
[19:30] <Laruft> I haven't a clue about getting opera working in kubuntu... i'm googling as I expect you are too
[19:30] <s4crifice> there's written that if i download the DEB package, it will work, but without updating... but it's the solution :-)
[19:32] <Laruft> s4crifice: http://www.opera.com/browser/download/
[19:32] <Laruft> tried that?
[19:32] <Laruft> lol
[19:33] <s4crifice> but on ubuntu pages says that the updating doesn't work exactly and it has a problem with codes
[19:33] <Laruft> thats for ubuntu 8.10 tho hmm
[19:33] <Laruft> re: link
[19:34] <ockonal> Can i download older kernel?
[19:40] <g01p> how do you install a programme through Konsole programme?
[19:41] <g01p> What command is used to do this action anybody know ??
[19:41] <Dragnslcr> Usually apt-get
[19:41] <g01p> sudo install website?
[19:41] <noren> g01p: sudo apt-get install <software>
[19:41] <White_Pelican> apt-get install "program name"
[19:41] <g01p> ah yes apt install
[19:41] <White_Pelican> oops forgot the sudo hehe
[19:41] <g01p> ok thanks all :)
[19:41] <g01p> lol
[19:41] <g01p> :)
[19:41] <josh-l> anyone know where plasma widget files are located?
[19:41]  * g01p sips tea
[19:42] <noren> anyone knows here how to unrar multipart rar files wen i dont have all the rar part files
[19:44] <noren> josh-l: .kde/share/kde4/services
[19:44] <josh-l> thanks noren
[19:45] <josh-l> noren: nope not in there
[19:46] <noren> /home/[user[/.kde/share/kde4/services
[19:46] <josh-l> noren: yeah i checked... not in there
[19:46] <noren> this is place where all my extra downloaded widgets are
[19:46] <noren> any specific are u looking for
[19:47] <josh-l> noren: none of mine are in there... i'm looking for stasks
[19:47] <noren> try searching them with search
[19:49] <s4crifice> need help again... :-) Everytime my OOo document is opened, i have a trouble with KMenu which is opened incorrectly, unreadebly, .... somebody knows?
[19:51] <noren> s4crifice: wat do u mean
[19:51] <phoenixz> Anybody has a clue why in 9.04 new plasma widgets don't show in the list to add to the desktop anymore? This is why I can't get the wifi plasma on my deskopt (and without that, I cant use my wifi either)
[19:52] <hameed> hi every body
[19:52] <s4crifice> noren: It's something like if your graphic card goes crazy... :-) cant subscribe... there's a lot of minilines, i can't see the colours, the fonts,...
[19:52] <noren> phoenixz: report in #ubuntu+1
[19:52] <XKiLL3R> hey all
[19:53] <genii> phoenixz: 9.04/Jaunty issues in #ubuntu+1    (it is also the #kubuntu+1 channel there)
[19:53] <XKiLL3R> any1 got a solution 4 me
[19:53] <noren> s4crifice: is that only wen OOo documents or anyother softwares also
[19:53] <noren> XKiLL3R: did u ask any question
[19:53] <genii> XKiLL3R: You need someone who is familiar with the Wubi windows installer, no one seems to be around right now for that
[19:53] <XKiLL3R> noren yea
[19:54] <genii> noren: He did earlier :)
[19:54] <s4crifice> noren: just openoffice... and in a moment when it's maximized...when i minimalize the application, the kmenu is fine... :-) It's a stupidity, but small detail i would like to fix....
[19:54] <XKiLL3R> genii ok tell me about another way
[19:55] <phoenixz> genii: thanks
[19:55] <genii> XKiLL3R: The other way is to do just a regular install of kubuntu by booting up from the install cd/dvd
[19:55] <XKiLL3R> genii but i already try to boot and install but i can't enter the setup
[19:55] <XKiLL3R> yea i have do this
[19:56] <XKiLL3R> after loading it bad it gives a blank screen
[19:56] <noren> XKiLL3R: check the cd for error
[19:56] <genii> XKiLL3R: You get a blank scren from the livecd when it boots from the cd?
[19:56] <genii> Might need "vga" grub option
[19:56] <XKiLL3R> noren i've tried to burn it twice
[19:57] <XKiLL3R> from a diffrent servers
[19:57] <XKiLL3R> genii yup
[19:57] <noren> check the md5 checksum of the iso files
[19:57] <XKiLL3R> noren i've :)
[19:58] <XKiLL3R> tried ubuntu 8.10 too
[19:58] <XKiLL3R> same problem
[19:58] <XKiLL3R> :S
[19:58] <XKiLL3R> only safe mode works genii
[19:59] <XKiLL3R> ...
[20:00] <noren> safe mode in live cd
[20:00] <XKiLL3R> yea
[20:01] <noren> cant u start the ubiquity on the desktop from the safe mode
[20:01] <XKiLL3R> start wt ?
[20:02] <genii> XKiLL3R: When in safe mode.... put in:   nano /boot/grub/menu.lst               and then an editior should open the grub config file. Put at end of line which says something like: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic root=UUID=3125b8f2-6b07-420f-9a9e-d97a8ec4e655 ro quiet splash           the word:  vga      after where it says splash.   Then exit editor with ctrl-x, putting Yes to save file and Enter key to confirm same name to save it as.
[20:02] <genii> The above works on safe mode of hd install, not on "vga" option manually specified from livecd boot
[20:03] <josh-l> are there any kde website design apps?
[20:03] <XKiLL3R> genii k i will try this , but can u help me in configure the hd formating n staff
[20:04] <genii> XKiLL3R: I am at work right now so expect lots of lag.
[20:04] <XKiLL3R> cuze i dun know much about swap and staff
[20:04] <XKiLL3R> genii ops
[20:04] <XKiLL3R> ok
[20:04] <genii> XKiLL3R: If you just follow the "guided" mode it should be fine
[20:04] <XKiLL3R> guided mode ?
[20:04] <XKiLL3R> where is that :D
[20:06] <genii> XKiLL3R: When the installer gets to the part where you tell it where to put your installation on the hard drive, it opens usually the partitioner program, which has what is called a "guided mode" where it makes suggestions where to install, etc etc. In the Wubi (running install from inside Windows) it will be different
[20:06] <XKiLL3R> I have windows 7 Installed in C: it's 39GB i wanna format this and change it to linux extension not NTFS (if this would b better)
[20:06] <genii> XKiLL3R: I never use Wubi install so not much help with it. Regular install from booting up the cdrom install I CAN help with
[20:06] <XKiLL3R> ok i will use the boot one
[20:06] <demmon> how can i remove a program that i have installed with .deb
[20:07] <genii> demmon: After you used dpkg to install it, apt-get sees it and you can remove that way
[20:07] <genii> Dillizar: : After you used dpkg to install it, apt-get sees it and you can remove that way. also try not to change nickname here immediately after asking a  question
[20:07] <Dillizar> genii:  i just double clicked on a .deb file
[20:08] <Dillizar> sorry genii
[20:08] <genii> Dillizar: use something on commandline then like:   sudo dpkg -r filename.deb          (but use the real filename and make sure if you do: ls         then it sees the file in it's current directory)
[20:09] <Dillizar> i am trying to uninstall cedega
[20:14] <mroc> i'm having a slight problem with my screensaver.  when i have compositing enabled, and i try to go back to my desktop from screensaver, the screensaver itself stops and the screen goes all white for ~5s before the desktop becomes visible again.  has anyone heard of this before, and are there any solutions?
[20:16] <tanja> hallo, get some silly trouble - i deleted keyboard layout icon in panel, now i lurked all that gui "adding miniprogramm" and programms, but can't fiind it. Could anyone say, how this programm is called?
[20:26] <fishmaster> hallo, get some silly trouble - i deleted keyboard layout icon in panel, now i lurked all that gui "adding miniprogramm" and programms, but can't fiind it. Could anyone say, how this programm is called?
[20:29] <chronic1> If you load the beta...is it a relatively painless apt configuration change to upgrade to the stable when it is released?
[20:30] <noren> !sub
[20:30] <roBBerto> i hope tha someone gets my message in a bottle
[20:30] <Daskreech> oooh what's this bottle?
[20:31] <roBBerto> the message is:
[20:31] <roBBerto> amarok doesn't read audio cd
[20:31] <roBBerto> how can i resolce this?
[20:32] <Daskreech> roBBerto: oooh yeah I heard that one
[20:32] <Daskreech> go bang a drum in #amarok :)
[20:34] <dtm_> can someone tell me how to port games with ubuntu /msg dtm_
[20:34] <Daskreech> port games?
[20:34] <dtm_> yes
[20:34] <dtm_> i cant get diablo to work
[20:34] <Daskreech> as in get ubuntu games working in kubuntu ?
[20:34] <Daskreech> Oh diablo
[20:34] <Daskreech> tried Wine ?
[20:35] <dtm_> Wine?
[20:35] <dtm_> nope
[20:35] <dtm_> Where is that?
[20:35] <Daskreech> !wine | dtm_
[20:37] <Dashkal> Where does the hardware drivers applet get its information?  I have to PCs with what I thought were identical repository configurations.  One saw the newest nvidia drivers (180) but this one doesn't.
[20:38] <otm> could I query somebody that knows perl about 6 lines of script?
[20:39] <Daskreech> ##perl
[20:39] <otm> ty
[20:39] <genii> otm: Maybe put it into a pastebin url and ask them in ##perl as Daskreech suggests
[20:40] <otm> how to private message without opening a query tab?
[20:41] <Daskreech> depends on your client
[20:41] <otm> konversation
[20:42] <aga> hmm /notice nick text should do i think
[20:43] <s4crifice> does anyone use SMplayer?  It writes me an error if i want to rewind the movie... can anybody help me? (translated into english language mistake sounds like: mplayer has ended by mistake, backup rate:1)
[20:43] <cinex> damn festivities...
[20:44] <ikonia> ^/window move right
[21:00] <Neremor> hello!
[21:01] <Daskreech> !hi
[21:01] <roBBerto> hello Neremor
[21:01] <roBBerto> !hi
[21:01] <Neremor> is it possible to set up the normal kmix shortcuts to work with pulseaudio??
[21:01] <roBBerto> i love rodrigo_melo!
[21:02] <roBBerto> i love jono!
[21:02] <aga> ok,... now i have an issue... why is mplayer installed? i did not install it, no one touches this computer and my player for .avi files has always been videolan
[21:03] <Daskreech> Jono loves being loved :)
[21:03] <jono> heh
[21:03] <jono> roBBerto, I love you too :)
[21:03] <Daskreech> aga: cause someone installed it
[21:03] <aga> now i double click and mplayer jumps... did it came with the last kde update or something?/
[21:03] <roBBerto> ;)
[21:04] <aga> not possible Daskreech... i live alone, my boyfriend knows 0 about computers in general and -100 about linux... so unless the neighbour came and did it while i was working...
[21:04] <Daskreech> call the neighbour
[21:04] <Daskreech> or the cat i suspect the cat
[21:04] <Daskreech> regardless check your dpkg logs for mplayer to see when it was installed
[21:06] <aga> i mean it's a nice player but i do not remember i have installed it... i always used videolan and i hate to have a thousand things for the same :S
[21:06] <aga> is there any way to check when and who installed it?
[21:06] <aga> Daskreech: i have a bunny not a cat... maybe it's a hacker ;p (how would i check those logs?)
[21:06] <aga> i smell a split
[21:07] <Daskreech> aga: check your dpkg logs
[21:07] <Daskreech> they should be in /var/log
[21:20] <k0pp__> hey guys im trying to upgrade Perl from 5.8 to 5.10, but apt-get shows it as the current version.  any reccomendations?
[21:20] <eean> k0pp__: do you have multiple perl's installed?
[21:20] <eean> anyways
[21:20] <k0pp__> no
[21:21] <eean> Why did hibernate disappear as an option from my girlfriends computer?
[21:21] <eean> s2disk isn't even installed
[21:21] <eean> but I didn't want to install it randomly... maybe there's a new way to hibernate?
[21:21] <aga> i just love my internet provider
[21:22] <zoran> aga why? :)
[21:22] <EvaLuaTe> any idea what package contains the kickoff plasmoid?
[21:22] <EvaLuaTe> or any idea how i could find out which one it is?
[21:23] <eean> EvaLuaTe: apt-cache search kickoff
[21:23] <eean> (just an idea :P)
[21:23] <aga> hmm zoran lately is failing way too much
[21:23] <aga> just like hiccups but without any sense... need to go, restart the cable modem, and the router
[21:23] <EvaLuaTe> eean: tried that, it doesn't return anything
[21:23] <aga> then it all comes back..it wasnt like that a year ago
[21:23] <EvaLuaTe> eean: i guess it comes in a package with more plasmoids ...
[21:24] <aga> i am starting to think it's actually my fault
[21:24] <zoran> EvaLuaTe: on what kubuntu? 8.10 or 9.04?
[21:24] <EvaLuaTe> zoran: 8.10
[21:24] <zoran> aga: maybe ;)
[21:24] <zoran> EvaLuaTe: one sec
[21:24] <aga> is there an possibility zoran?
[21:24] <EvaLuaTe> zoran: it's cool =)
[21:24] <aga> that something in my kubuntu is freaking it out?//
[21:24] <zoran> aga: few :)
[21:25] <aga> mind enumerating? just in case :P
[21:26] <zoran> EvaLuaTe: that is plasmonoid
[21:26] <zoran> aga, really dont know.. can be anything
[21:26] <EvaLuaTe> zoran: hmm, i can't find that package ...
[21:27] <aga> it's probably just the company, don't really think anyone is ddosing this poor girl
[21:27] <aga> just annoying
[21:28] <EvaLuaTe> zoran: maybe i'm thinking this the wrong way. so i found a patch for the kickoff app that would add some functionality to it, it's just a couple of lines. how could i add it? i thought of downloading the deb package and then changing the source code in there and reinstall the package, would this work?
[21:28] <zoran> EvaLuaTe: i would like to suggest you a plasmoid-lancelot - An alternative launcher menu plasmoid for KD
[21:28] <zoran> KDE*
[21:28] <EvaLuaTe> zoran: i already had a look at that, it's not very configurable though ...
[21:29] <zoran> EvaLuaTe: you need source code for that
[21:29] <EvaLuaTe> zoran: i actually like kickoff, it's perfect, the only annoying thing about it is that it won't show separators. just like i said, i found a patch that would add the separator functionality, i just don't know how to apply/install that ...
[21:30] <zoran> can you give me url>?
[21:30] <EvaLuaTe> one second
[21:30] <zoran> or just name of patch
[21:30] <EvaLuaTe> zoran: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/293/diff/#index_header
[21:30] <EvaLuaTe> zoran: or: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=939224
[21:32] <zoran> EvaLuaTe: this is too much for me i can't help you with this, sorry :)
[21:33] <EvaLuaTe> ok then. i found the source code for the kickoff. maybe i can apply the patch and just reinstall it, i hope that'll work :D
[21:33] <EvaLuaTe> zoran: anyway, thanks for the help, it got me a step further ... =)
[21:34] <jesper_> hello, i'm trying to install squeezecenter on kubuntu 8.10 but after having added "deb http://debian.slimdevices.com stable main" adept just ignores that repository!? Any ideas? Thanks
[21:34] <thebe> This kernal requires the following feature not present on the CPU:
[21:34] <cinex> Humbug!
[21:34] <thebe> pae
[21:34] <thebe> Unable to load - please use a kernal suitable to your CPU
[21:34] <thebe> how could I boot the system now??
[21:35] <thebe> this is the error message during booting of ubuntu server
[21:35] <Laeborg> !gui ftpd
[21:35] <Laeborg> !ftpd gui
[21:35] <Daskreech> !ftpd
[21:35] <thebe> could any of you help me
[21:35] <Daskreech> thebe: ask your question
[21:36] <aga> well... me and my ghost mplayer and super internet connection are going to sleep
[21:36] <aga> g'night
[21:36] <thebe> this kernal requires the following feature not present on the cpu
[21:36] <cinex> Christmas: the rape of an idea.
[21:36] <thebe> pae
[21:36] <thebe> unable to load
[21:36] <thebe> please use a kernal suitable to your cpu
[21:36] <thebe> this error message appears during booting
[21:37] <thebe> how could I boot the system
[21:37] <thebe> there is only three booting options: recovery mode, memtest++ and generic
[21:37] <Daskreech> recoverymode
[21:37] <thebe> Daskreech will be waiting 4 u
[21:38] <Daskreech> then apt-get install linux-image-generic
[21:38] <Daskreech> !info linux-image-generic
[21:38] <EvaLuaTe> any idea how i could download a folder from a svn repository?
[21:39] <thebe> are u telling me or to whom?? Hello daskreech
[21:40] <henry_BR>  I'm using Kubuntu and I'm trying to make PyOpenGL works... But a simple code already doesn't work! The code is here: http://rafb.net/p/XV30Os36.html . Anyone can help me? I have installed mesa... glut3.. freeglut...
[21:41] <jesper_> hello again, i'm trying to install squeezecenter on kubuntu 8.10 but after having added "deb http://debian.slimdevices.com stable main" adept just ignores that repository!? Any ideas? Thanks
[21:43] <thebe> Hello Daskreech!!
[21:43] <Daskreech> hi
[21:44] <thebe> how could i get the solution??
[21:44] <Daskreech> EvaLuaTe: tried svn >
[21:44] <Daskreech> ?
[21:45] <Daskreech> jesper_: run and update close adept then run sudo update-apt-xapian-index
[21:45] <Daskreech> thebe: boot to recovery and then install linux-image-generic
[21:46] <thebe> even if i choose recovery mode during boot option, the same message appears
[21:47] <EvaLuaTe> Daskreech: for example if i want to download this whole directory: svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/applets/kickoff/core/applicationmodel. , could you please tell me the command i would have to issue?
[21:48] <EvaLuaTe> whoops, remove core/applicationmodel. from the end :p
[21:49] <p_quarles> thebe: you apparently installed a version with PAE (which allows extended memory addressing) on a CPU that doesn't support that; you'll need to reinstall, or at least replace the kernel
[21:49] <zoran> EvaLuaTe: first install svn
[21:49] <Daskreech> EvaLuaTe: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Sources/Using_Subversion_with_KDE
[21:49] <EvaLuaTe> it's installed
[21:49] <thebe> how could i replace kernel??
[21:49] <thebe> New user in linux!
[21:49] <Daskreech> thebe: do you have a live CD ?
[21:49] <p_quarles> thebe: then you'll need to reinstall
[21:50] <Daskreech> p_quarles: no he doesn't
[21:50] <zoran> than do: svn checkout "address"
[21:50] <Daskreech> assuming thebe is a he
[21:50] <EvaLuaTe> wait' i think i managed to do it. seems i had to use 'svn co' before the link
[21:50] <EvaLuaTe> thanks guys
[21:50] <MAMONT> hey guys
[21:50] <p_quarles> Daskreech: I don't think that's a new user task, but oh well
[21:50] <thebe> but how the problem of pae is addressed then?
[21:50] <Daskreech> thebe: do you have a live CD ?
[21:51] <MAMONT> can anyone help ? :S
[21:51] <jesper_> Daskreech: I'm not sure what "sudo update-apt-xapian-index" did but I still can't see squeezecenter in the adept installer
[21:51] <Daskreech> !anyone | MAMONT
[21:51] <p_quarles> !ask | MAMONT
[21:51] <thebe> ya, i hav
[21:51] <thebe> e
[21:51] <Daskreech> thebe: boot up into the live Cd and you can chroot the drive and install whatever you like
[21:52] <dfgsehsdasgas> hi guys, i try to install kubuntu 8,10 but doesn't get me throught the partition manager..someone can help plz??
[21:52] <slow-motion> n8
[21:52] <Daskreech> jesper_: does apt-cache search squeezec turn up anything ?
[21:52] <Daskreech> dfgsehsdasgas: more info
[21:52] <thebe> okay, you mean i have to boot from cd and have to installl!
[21:52] <Daskreech> thebe: yes you can just install the kernel from the CD
[21:52] <zoran> jesper_: add that repo, than run sudo apt-get update
[21:52] <patarok> i want to use a bluetooth headset in jaunty has anyone an idea how to enable the scan for audio devices?
[21:52] <jesper_> Daskreech: yes, it does...
[21:53] <MAMONT> i had some problems with my ubuntu 8.10 fs, so i made fsck, after that i rebooted and it appears there is no /val/lib/gdm. there's no lib in /var at all
[21:53] <Daskreech> jesper_: ok then sudo apt-get install squeezecenter
[21:53] <p_quarles> Daskreech: I don't think he knows what chroot means
[21:53] <dfgsehsdasgas> anyone?
[21:53] <jesper_> zoran: I've already tried that - both in cmdline and in the gui
[21:53] <jesper_> Daskreech: Ok, I'
[21:53] <thebe> you are right p_quarles