[00:08] <Projectui> Anyone active? Have question about FakeRaid and getting the volume to become available to the OS.
[00:13] <sarnold> Projectui: irc works best with specific questions
[00:13] <sarnold> Projectui: that said, it's probably worth skipping 'fake raid' things and just using mdadm / lvm / zfs / btrfs (skip btrfs raid5/6 things) instead
[00:13] <Projectui> sarnold: I get that, but lately I've asked in other channels and have yet to get replies. Thought I would see if anyone was awake before a 2 week wait.
[00:14] <sarnold> Projectui: yeah, I can understand that
[00:14] <sarnold> Projectui: but fakeraid isn't used much in the linux world, so it could ujust be no one knew :)
[00:15] <Projectui> I'll just leave this here:  I set up EZRaid. dual 8tb platters in a Raid 1. I used dmraid to activate it. It shows as 2 drives on with one volume label. I can't figure out how to prepare the partition using parted to get the drive in a "windows" friendly format so I can also use those drives as a media host for my home network.
[00:16] <Projectui> I saw fakeraid as a term in my google searches. not sure if it's truly applicable in my instance.
[00:17] <matsaman> sounds like a good way to lose data
[00:17] <Projectui> matsaman: how is that?
[00:17] <sarnold> ah, if this is for use in windows instead of linux, you should probably ask in a windows forum :)
[00:19] <Projectui> um.. .this is Ubuntu 20.04
[00:20] <Projectui> the drives will be shared to a network so windows machines can access it
[00:20] <Projectui> maybe I'm thinking about the format wrong
[00:20] <Projectui> the OS is going to be hosting the drive, and translating where the data goes
[00:20] <Projectui> but I still need to get the drive partitioned and formatted.
[00:21] <matsaman> seems like you're trying to use RAID as a solution to having a second copy of your data
[00:21] <elias_a> Projectui: What is your use case? File server?
[00:21] <matsaman> but the purpose of RAID is to have data be more accessible by however many copies you have of it, and not to actually keep all those copies around
[00:22] <Projectui> well.. this box is a multi-tasking rig. Large array for file storage, smaller nvme drive for game hosting and websites.
[00:22] <matsaman> you can mirror data with RAID, but that's not its purpose
[00:23] <elias_a> Projectui: So RAID to be on the safer side?
[00:23] <Projectui> yeah.
[00:24] <Projectui> I'll probably end up sticking another 8tb drive back home so I can have an off-site copy
[00:24] <elias_a> Projectui: If the data and/or services are of value, I'd go for a real RAID setup.
[00:26] <elias_a> Projectui: But as matsaman said RAID is meant for mirroring inside a disk array.
[00:27] <Projectui> I understand raid. I am mirroring my 2 drives. Is the ezraid functionality of my motherobard not considered actual raid?
[00:28] <elias_a> Projectui: To be honest I do not know about ezraid. Probably someone else knows the answer.
[00:30] <Projectui> ok. lets try this. if someone has a Raid 1 setup. how do they parition the drives to be accessable by ubuntu? imagine the drives are detected, and activated? What would the next step be?
[00:34] <elias_a> Projectui: This guide might be of interest: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[00:35] <elias_a> That is quite old though...
[00:37] <Projectui> I found something similar, and I'm going to work through it for a moment
[00:38] <elias_a> Projectui: Good luck! I'll hit the bed now. :)
[00:38] <derpadmin> Projectui, ezraid will probaby create an hardware and present 1 disk to ubuntu
[00:39] <derpadmin> *an hardware raid
[00:39] <derpadmin> not sure how easy the recovery will be if the mobo dies
[00:40] <sarnold> if you use zfs it's piece of cake, pop drives into another computer and run zpool import and you're online again
[00:40] <sarnold> I've not used the others myself so I can't give as easy advice :)
[00:42] <Projectui> derpadmin: this is stuff like family photos and such. having an offsite backup should be ok versus going full enterprise hardware raid.
[00:43] <sarnold> raid gives you time to replace a harddrive; backups save you from fire or accidental deletes or ransomware
[00:43] <derpadmin> raid != backup
[00:44] <derpadmin> like sarnold said...
[00:44] <Projectui> then what is raid 10 used for?
[00:44] <Projectui> sorry
[00:44] <derpadmin> mirroring + speed
[00:44] <Projectui> didn't have my thought complete
[00:46] <Projectui> I want the raid 1 here at the house so I can host files with a little safety. If anything does happen to one of the drives, I can bring it back up. if anything happens to the server, say blows up, or house implodes, I have the backup.
[00:46] <derpadmin> then you are all set
[00:46] <TxJorge> Hi, i'm trying to set up my /home directory on a separate drive from my main os install.  In the partition editor of the installer, I see 3 existing partitions on my drive, sda1 which is type fat32 and size 536MB, sda2 which is type efi and size 537MB, and sda5 which is type ext4 and size 67GB.  Anyone know what the fat32 partition is used for?  This drive previously had ubuntu installed.
[00:46] <derpadmin> I usually preach the 3-2-1 method for backup
[00:47] <derpadmin> it is hard to go wrong with that one
[00:47] <derpadmin> 3 copies, 2 different medias, 1 offsite location
[00:50] <sarnold> TxJorge: hmm, normally I'd have guessed the fat32 partition *is* the EFI partition..
[01:09] <Guest_63> hi all, hoping to get some help with an issue I'm having
[01:09] <Guest_63> I have an Ubuntu 20.10 install with full disk encryption turned on... got a new machine and tried to put the drive in there, seems like that hosed something
[01:10] <Guest_63> in my boot messages I now get things like "timed out waiting for the device /dev/disk/by-uuid/<uuid>..."
[01:11] <Guest_63> and and things like "dependency failed for..." and a reference to some partition
[01:12] <Guest_63> this happens in the new box and also in the old box
[01:12] <Guest_63> I suspect it's some bootloader / uefi / bios thing, but not sure... would appreciate any suggestions
[01:16] <sarnold> Guest_63: if you boot to a live instance (usb stick), does the drive show up at all?
[01:16] <Guest_63> @sarnold yes it does
[01:16] <sarnold> Guest_63: can you unlock it there?
[01:17] <Guest_63> I'm not sure, I've done it before but forgot how to do the luks stuff in the live cd, also unsure what to do to fix
[01:18] <Guest_63> it's strange actually, it seems like I can view folders on the drive without entering in decryption pw, which shouldn't be possible? perhaps I only encrypted /home (thinking face)
[01:19] <Guest_63> but yes, any suggestions on how to fix would be great, even pointing me to some docs
[01:21] <sarnold> Guest_63: it's been a year or so since I've done any luks stuff by hand.. here's the cryptsetup page https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/groovy/man8/cryptsetup.8.html
[01:23] <sarnold> sheesh, there's no way to just ask for 'status' without a name. :/
[01:27] <Guest_63> thanks for the doc, will see how far that gets me
[01:28] <Guest_63> do you know what I should do with cryptsetup to fix my install?
[01:28] <sarnold> I don't :/ I'm just curious if the drive unlocks as expected, to rule out eg drive data changes
[01:29] <Guest_63> oh gotcha
[02:30] <Blade-Runner> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, are we having fun? ;)
[03:34] <hwpplayer1> hi there!
[03:36] <sharktamer> hi all
[03:36] <sharktamer> was wondering if it's possible to use cloudinit with a home pc
[03:38] <sharktamer> got an intel nuc I want to be able to setup headless
[03:42] <sarnold> sharktamer: heh, good question. there may not be a pre-made image that'd be well-suited for the instance though
[03:42] <sarnold> hey hwpplayer1
[03:42] <sarnold> sharktamer: this is aimed at VMs rather than hardware, but I think most of it may be useful for you https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/install/autoinstall-quickstart
[03:46] <hwpplayer1> sarnold: How are you doing ? Can i pm you ?
[03:46] <sarnold> hwpplayer1: I'm about done for the day; besides, irc works best in the open, since then anyone can contribute :)
[03:47] <hwpplayer1> sarnold: Okay just one line message here comes
[03:47] <hwpplayer1> https://youtu.be/0z3yusiCOCk
[03:47] <hwpplayer1> That is Why we need a different container purely for apps - Mark Shuttleworth (Canonical)
[03:47] <hwpplayer1>
[03:48] <sarnold> oh wow 2016
[03:49] <hwpplayer1> "I'm on hackathon mode"
[03:50] <sarnold> snaps and lxd, neat
[03:53] <EnchanterTim> Hello
[03:53] <EnchanterTim> https://github.com/KDE/plasma-framework/blob/master/src/plasmaquick/dialog.cpp#L782
[03:53] <EnchanterTim> I need to patch this function in KDE. I am on Ubuntu 20.04
[03:54] <EnchanterTim> I have tried apt-file search 'plasmaquick/dialog.cpp' but I can't find it
[03:54] <EnchanterTim> Which ubunt package contains this file, so that I may patch it and rebuild it
[03:54] <sarnold> apt-file only searches binary packages, not sources
[03:54] <EnchanterTim> Oh
[03:54] <sarnold> hold on a second
[03:54] <EnchanterTim> Take your time
[03:55] <sarnold> EnchanterTim: it's in the plasma-framework source package
[03:55] <EnchanterTim> how did you find out?
[03:56] <sarnold> EnchanterTim: I've got the entire archive unpacked locally
[03:56] <sarnold> EnchanterTim: combined with https://plocate.sesse.net/ it's pretty quick to answer these kinds of questions
[03:57] <EnchanterTim> Ok
[03:57] <EnchanterTim> Nice
[03:57] <sarnold> EnchanterTim: you could also search for the contents on the debian code search tool, it's kinda close: https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=__plasma_frameSvg
[03:58] <sarnold> EnchanterTim: if you search for Dialog::Dialog, you'll drown in results, so sometimes you've got to try for something less common
[03:59] <sarnold> EnchanterTim: and of course not all debian packages are in ubuntu, not all ubuntu packages are in debian, and I think there's even cases of same-named packages sharing nothing in common, but don't quote me on that -- but it's close enough most of the time
[04:12] <EnchanterTim> -rw-r----- 1 root root 33779089 Dec  1 21:11 /var/lib/mlocate/plocate.db
[04:12] <EnchanterTim> Doh
[04:12] <EnchanterTim> Sorry was setting up this plocate thing
[04:12] <EnchanterTim> it's nice. fast.
[04:12] <EnchanterTim> ok, thanks for the tippings
[04:13] <EnchanterTim> /var/lib/mlocate/plocate.db: Permission denied
[04:13] <EnchanterTim> Hunh. Permission has to be user
[04:15] <EnchanterTim> Wow. This thing is super fast!
[04:17] <EnchanterTim> W: Download is performed unsandboxed as root as file 'plasma-framework_5.68.0-0ubuntu1.dsc' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission denied)
[04:18] <EnchanterTim> I ran sudo apt-get source plasma-framework
[04:20] <EnchanterTim> Ok I got it
[04:20] <EnchanterTim> https://bpa.st/B5MA https://bpa.st/YYZA and need patching for Xmonad. I'll try that and rebuild the thing.
[04:21] <EnchanterTim> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174 patch was proposed here, but for  diff version than what I probably have in 20.04
[04:21] <EnchanterTim> So I can't blindly apply it, gotta edit the source myself. Wish me luck!
[04:29] <EnchanterTim> Hunh. It's just commenting out two lines that do a visibility flag
[04:41] <EnchanterTim> Well no luck. source edited and package rebuilt and still no workoarond
[04:42] <EnchanterTim> https://bpa.st/LMLQ But I do have new info
[04:42] <EnchanterTim> When I click the menu icon on panel, this messages appears
[04:42] <EnchanterTim> trying to show an empty dialog
[04:44] <EnchanterTim><EMAIL_ADDRESS>Found something more!
[04:48] <EnchanterTim> https://phabricator.kde.org/D12876
[04:48] <EnchanterTim> Commenting out those two bits in the two functions effectiely undoes the bugfix that causes this bug
[04:55] <Guest20> Hi there, when i create a user and switch to the newly created user and then type passwd
[04:55] <Guest20> it says enter the current password
[04:55] <Guest20> what would be the current password, when a user gets created - no password is set
[05:05] <imbezol> Guest20: if you didn't set a password then the user account will be locked
[05:05] <imbezol> you need to set a password using the root account or sudo
[05:06] <imbezol> echo "username:password" | chpasswd
[05:07] <imbezol> or
[05:07] <imbezol> echo "username:password" | sudo chpasswd
[05:37] <EnchanterTim> YES!
[05:37] <EnchanterTim> IT WORKS!
[05:38] <EnchanterTim> OMG Xmonad plus Plasma now works again! Ahh boy. That was the reason I was stuck on KDE of 18.04
[05:39] <EnchanterTim> Nothing to patch, I just reverted the two mentioned functions from the kde commit that broke Xmonad functionality.
[05:39] <EnchanterTim> That is a KDE bugfix for their own panel stuff/dialog in new Qt 5.10 api so I can't expect them to revert it to fix solely for xmonad
[05:39] <EnchanterTim> anyway, thanks for your help.
[05:43] <Guest20> lets say usera created a file inside a dir with stick bit set, now if userb tries to delete the file created by usera with sudo . the file gets deleted
[05:43] <Guest20> i set the sticky bit dir permission with 1777
[07:23] <samuelrajan747> Is there a coverflow Alt+Tab utility for wayland? (For use with sway, not with a DE like Gnome or KDE)
[07:33] <hackers> ;;
[07:34] <hackers> what's the minimalist release of ubuntu?
[07:35] <samuelrajan747> hackers: go for #archlinux or Ubuntu Server
[07:35] <hackers> wy?
[07:35] <hackers> why?
[07:36] <samuelrajan747> I love that
[07:37] <hackers> I'm looking or a deb based OS, Debian has some minimal netinstall, ubuntu has ubuntu-server but it's quite different than ubuntu releases targetting users
[07:37] <hackers> glad you love it
[07:37] <hackers> I love it too
[07:37] <samuelrajan747> recently Ubuntu is like my Spam folder
[07:38] <samuelrajan747> it has both tmux and screen, even htop preinstalled
[07:38] <hackers> did you mean "you love when people ask questions in general or mostky simple one-worded questions like `why?'" or was it sarcastic as-in anyon who don't take your word for it is a fool
[07:39] <hackers> in anycase I don't understand your comparison between your OS and your inbox
[07:40] <samuelrajan747> Ubuntu has many programs preinstalled for a minimalist end-user
[07:40] <hackers> is there a minimalist release of ubuntu? that shio with literally only what's nedded to make it function?
[07:41] <samuelrajan747> Install ubuntu server and edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:41] <hackers> I want full knoledge to have "complete understanding" and if I'm lucky or good enough that day "full control"
[07:42] <hackers> to include what?
[07:42] <hackers> but I rwad it did't support graphical interfaces
[07:42] <hackers> usually I instal xinit and its deps
[07:42] <samuelrajan747> you need to install it manually
[07:43] <samuelrajan747> go for a wayland based WM
[07:43] <hackers> plus a minimalist window manage called notion but spoken "not ion
[07:43] <hackers> "
[07:43] <samuelrajan747> i use swayWM
[07:44] <hackers> the thing is I never heard about wayland so I'm assumin i
[07:44] <hackers> m not interested in runnig it
[07:44] <hackers> or installing it
[07:44] <hackers> o configuring it!
[07:44] <hackers> I think I know it's a ubuntu thing
[07:44] <hackers> but that's about all
[07:45] <hackers> see
[07:45] <hackers> apt-cache search wayland | grep ^waylahd
[07:46] <hackers> that returhs nothing on my cutting edge unstable debian
[07:46] <hackers> samuelrajan747: why do you need wayland to rn swayVM?
[07:47] <hackers> ah there is this xwayland - Xwayland X server
[07:47] <hackers> so ubuntu doesn't use Xorg or X11?
[07:47] <hackers> it uses wayland instead
[07:47] <hackers> ?
[07:48] <samuelrajan747> sway can't run in X
[07:48] <samuelrajan747> it doesn't need xOrg
[07:49] <hackers> so it's the x windows system
[07:49] <samuelrajan747> you don't need xinit to run sway
[07:50] <hackers> and I can install wayland on ubuntu-server
[07:50] <samuelrajan747> if you want to run apps that only run in X under sway, you need xwayland (which includes xserver)
[07:51] <samuelrajan747> you must be able to install/uninstall anything in anything
[07:51] <hackers> I dno't relally care as long as it allows me to conigure my keyboard ike Xorg does via ~/.Xmpdap (bind caps=lock to ctrl)
[07:52] <samuelrajan747> it doesn't
[07:52] <hackers> and configure xterm the way I want like I do via .Xresource
[07:52] <hackers> and configure xterm the way I want like I do via .Xresources
[07:52] <hackers> really?
[07:52] <samuelrajan747> there are workarounds
[07:52] <hackers> no alternatives even?
[07:52] <hackers> yeah that's what I was thinking
[07:52] <samuelrajan747> there are
[07:52] <hackers> ok ok
[07:55] <hackers> I want a nice foundation to virtualize diffent distros and explore deploying software across the
[07:55] <hackers> I would only install GUIX but I think there's a learning curve to it
[07:57] <samuelrajan747> KVM\QEMU + virt-manager
[08:32] <locsmif_work> I made an upstart script, but it doesn't seem to run. Any idea why? http://paste.debian.net/hidden/3a3170cb/
[08:53] <k_sze> With Ubuntu 20.04, what's the best/most correct way to quickly switch between different desktop environments (e.g. GNOME <-> KDE), assuming I want to use Wayland?
[08:54] <locsmif_work> Why is there no upstart-events manpage? Does it not exist?
[08:54] <k_sze> locsmif_work, what version of Ubuntu? I thought upstart is dead?
[08:54] <locsmif_work> Oh...
[08:55] <locsmif_work> Ubuntu 20.04.1
[08:55] <locsmif_work> k_sze: I wrote a script.. http://paste.debian.net/hidden/3a3170cb/ .. does this mean I shouldn't have because I wrote it for a non-existing system?
[08:56] <zamba> all my dockerd stopped on the night to 1st december.. it this something known?
[08:57] <k_sze> @locsmif_work, possibly. You should be writing for systemd nowadays.
[08:59] <locsmif_work> k_sze: is there a link to an announcement?
[08:59] <locsmif_work> Well, shit, I need to change everything
[08:59] <k_sze> locsmif_work, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2016-July/039465.html
[09:00] <k_sze> upstart was deprecated a few years ago.
[09:02] <locsmif_work> k_sze: how do I start a script on GUI login now?
[09:03] <locsmif_work> And will it work on this Ubuntu version?
[09:06] <micmac> Hi, what would you advise for on the fly compression of file/folders in ubuntu ?
[09:07] <micmac> idealy i would like something that I can mount on an existing ext4 drive like /mydrive/some_compressed_path
[09:07] <micmac> also I need it to be readable and writable of course
[09:08] <locsmif_work> micmac: seems like quite the ask
[09:08] <micmac> is it ?
[09:08] <k_sze> locsmif_work, there are a few different ways, depending on what you want to run and what desktop environment you are using. I'm not an expert in the matter though.
[09:08] <locsmif_work> micmac: you don't want a filesystem with transparent compression?
[09:08] <k_sze> e.g. there's this: https://stackoverflow.com/a/8290652/432483
[09:08] <micmac> I've seen things like FUSE or btrfs while googling but I thought someone knew better here
[09:09] <locsmif_work> micmac: if the size can be fized, you use a loop mount
[09:09] <locsmif_work> fixed*
[09:09] <micmac> locsmif_work: well I have a drive that's almost full already, so I wouldn't want to move all the file then reformat it with a new fs
[09:10] <micmac> locsmif_work: ok so creating like a virtual partition with a compressed fs
[09:11] <locsmif_work> micmac: it's a fixed size file which you partition like any other, assign a filesystem to (one that supports compression) and then mount.
[09:12] <locsmif_work> micmac: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/368182/create-a-file-thats-treated-like-a-btrfs-file-system
[09:12] <locsmif_work> micmac: but the only surefire way to get rid of your problem is to copy to a new disk with btrfs, even if you could just borrow one temporarily
[09:12] <micmac> ok thanks
[09:13] <locsmif_work> micmac: with btrfs, you even have deduplication
[09:13] <locsmif_work> https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Deduplication
[09:14] <locsmif_work> micmac: in a sense, you could conceivably free up space by moving stuff you don't use much to the loop mount, provided you aim for the perfect static loop file size, but it seems like whatever you do, you keep moving stuff about
[09:15] <locsmif_work> bbl
[09:15] <wyoung> gg
[09:19] <dob1> my user is in a group but when I use group it is not visible,  (I just relogged)
[09:20] <dob1> it says my user is just in this group... but it's not there when I type groups
[09:22] <k_sze> Odd, `apt install -s --install-suggests kubuntu-desktop` says `systemd-timesyncd` would be removed, though I can't see what would conflict with `systemd-timesyncd` in the output. Apparently the only possible conflict is `time-daemon`, but I don't see it in the output.
[09:53] <mort> 20.10 seems to have a real problem with anacron; half of my computer shutdowns take 90 seconds because anacron doesn't respond to sigterm
[10:03] <mgedmin> for me it was usually snapd that refused to quit on a signal during a reboot
[10:49] <Kurozen> Hekki
[10:50] <Kurozen> Hello*
[10:50] <Blade-Runner> hello
[10:52] <Kurozen> Ah nevermind
[10:52] <Blade-Runner> ok
[10:53] <Kurozen> I thought ubuntu doesn't output audio when idle/screen in standby
[10:53] <Kurozen> But because I'm switching monitor sources, audio source from HDMI doesn't work when in DisplayPort
[10:53] <Kurozen> Not an ubuntu problem.
[10:54] <BlueEagle> Kurozen: I'm glad we could help.
[10:55] <Blade-Runner> BlueEagle: :)
[11:35] <crst> Hi, where can I see on 20.04 why my port is blocked to the outside? ufw and firewalld are not running.
[11:41] <BlueEagle> crst: maybe `sudo iptables --list` can shed some light on it?
[11:41] <BlueEagle> crst: Also, are all ports blocked?
[11:55] <crst> BlueEagle: Not 100% sure if all ports are blocked but this is one node of a kubernetes cluster and something's messing with the access. Getting really complicated here. Atm I wanted to check if the issue arises from the server itself.
[12:09] <linux_daemon> hello all, i had WPS office installed, and it changed the mime types to all my files (downloaded or created) to its proprietary mime types. i removed wps, but it still when i redownload a file, it still stays the wps office mime type. how can i remove that?
[12:09] <linux_daemon> application/wps-office.xlsx
[12:09] <linux_daemon> it makes all xlsx files with this mime type
[12:10] <ThinkT510> can't you right-click... open with... and select a new default?
[12:12] <linux_daemon> tried it, but if i redownload some file, it goes again to that mime type
[12:13] <ThinkT510> isn't there a tickbox to make it the new default?
[12:13] <linux_daemon> there is, clicked it, but the newly downloaded files are still having that mime type
[12:16] <ThinkT510> you could try changing it using xdg-mime
[12:17] <linux_daemon> i'll try
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:27] <wyoung> G'day!
[12:29] <hwpplayer1> BluesKaj: wyoung How are you doing ?
[12:30] <BluesKaj> hi hwpplayer1 , ok here, how about you?
[12:31] <hwpplayer1> BluesKaj: Very well and ready to contribute more then ever
[12:31] <BluesKaj> cool
[12:31] <hwpplayer1> BluesKaj: What are your interest of computing ?
[12:34] <BluesKaj> that's a question for oftopic, hwpplayer1, but I'm a a home user who prefers open source/linux
[12:36] <BluesKaj> offtopic even :-)
[12:39] <hwpplayer1> BluesKaj: That is good to me
[12:39] <hwpplayer1> Then i'll help you somehow
[12:40] <BluesKaj> no need, I'm here to help as welll
[13:00] <DarkTrick> Where can I get libgnomeui-2 for ubuntu?
[13:03] <jaydemir> new install based on Ubuntu 20.04, trying to ssh via hostname, doesn't work, only works by IP. "Could not resolve hostname..." Is there a command I can run to refresh whatever DNS settings? I'm able to connect to this host on other machines.
[13:14] <jaydemir> looking for a command that grabs all the hostnames off my local network so I dont have to keep using IP addresses when I ssh into other machines. Does anything like this exist?
[13:17] <jpds> jaydemir: mDNS is what you want
[13:19] <jaydemir> thank you trying that now
[13:20] <jpds> It's actually something done at a router-level, rather than at the host though
[13:20] <jaydemir> I get that, but I have a windows partition that has no problem running ssh to the hostname in the powershell
[13:21] <pavlos> jaydemir: is there a DNS in your local network or do you just connect to a router -> cable modem -> Internet?
[13:21] <jaydemir> If I'm not mistaken I even have an Ubuntu based distro on another machine that works just fine too
[13:22] <jaydemir> I have a 2-in-1 modem/router that connects to the internet
[13:22] <jpds> jaydemir: So your new box is probably using the wrong DNS server?
[13:22] <jpds> We have no way of knowing how your network is set up
[13:22] <jaydemir> I can't imagine why it's set to autmoatic
[13:22] <jaydemir> like it's a fresh install of FerenOS
[13:23] <jaydemir> everything is dead simple
[13:23] <jaydemir> I guess the only difference is I swapped routers, the old one's default gateway was <IP_ADDRESS> and this one is <IP_ADDRESS>. Could that affect anything?
[13:24] <jpds> Yes
[13:24] <jpds> Your router is the one doing the DNS
[13:24] <jaydemir> but if the PC's network settings are set to "automatic" it should in theory just be using the correct DNS server regardless shouldn't it?
[13:26] <jaydemir> so I'm diving into my router and it is set to "get (DNS Address) automatically from ISP"
[13:27] <jpds> That's not what you're looking for, that's for DNS outside of your network
[13:27] <pavlos> jaydemir: systemd-resolve --status | grep DNS will list the DNS a host is using
[13:40] <jaydemir> best I can figure out is the host is using the same DNS IP as the router. I'm at a loss
[13:42] <pavlos> jaydemir: say your router is <IP_ADDRESS>, it provides dhchp to the local netowkr. hostA gets <IP_ADDRESS>, hostB gets <IP_ADDRESS>. You can ping by ip but not by name. Is this correct?
[13:44] <jaydemir> yep exactly
[13:44] <jaydemir> but thats only the case on my phone and this PC I'm using. I have a laptop with a win/elementary dual boot that works just fine via hostname
[13:45] <jaydemir> my phone used to connect via hostname but when I swapped my router (going from <IP_ADDRESS> to ...0.1) I lost that ability and had to use the IP instead
[13:47] <pavlos> jaydemir: which router do you have, before/after swap?
[13:49] <jaydemir> before I had an ISP provided router, can't remember what it was. Now I'm using a Netgear nighthawk ac1900
[13:55] <pavlos> jaydemir: the netgear has a DNS section under Internet. What DNS (primary,secondary) have you provided?
[13:57] <jaydemir> its set to auto, I'm assuming it's getting them from the ISP
[13:58] <jaydemir> yeah I just looked up the address, it's my ISP
[13:58] <pavlos> jaydemir: these are so that when you type google.com, it finds the ip and resolves to the google site. We are talking about your internal local resolution between hostA and hostB
[13:59] <jaydemir> so you're saying there should be a second DNS option somewhere
[14:02] <pavlos> jaydemir: your router may not be able to locally resolve. jpds mentioned mDNS. on hostA, sudo systemd-resolve --set-mdns=yes --interface=the interface you have, enp0s2, wlan0, ...
[14:04] <pavlos> jaydemir: read this, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/459991/how-to-configure-systemd-resolved-for-mdns-multicast-dns-on-local-network
[14:22] <k_sze> So I've successfully transplanted my SSD from one laptop to another. I can boot Ubuntu from it (I'm in it right now), but I had to disable Secure Boot. How do I fix that?
[14:23] <EriC^> k_sze: type 'sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999'
[14:23] <EriC^> paste the link it gives you here
[14:25] <k_sze> EriC^, https://termbin.com/ivfs
[14:27] <jhave> Hello
[14:27] <jhave> I do not understand this
[14:28] <pavlos> jhave: 'this'??
[14:28] <EriC^> k_sze: type 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed
[14:28] <EriC^> k_sze: type 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed'
[14:28] <jhave> I have fucked up my resolver in 20.04
[14:29] <pavlos> jhave: language ...
[14:29] <jhave> Sorry
[14:29] <jhave> jhave@devbox:~$ ping google.com
[14:29] <jhave> ping: google.com: Temporary failure in name resolution
[14:29] <jhave> But its setup in netplan
[14:29] <k_sze> EriC^, and then I should be able to reboot and re-enable Secure Boot?
[14:30] <k_sze> EriC^, do I also have to do something about MOK? I have proprietary NVIDIA DKMS drivers, which are automatically signed with MOK or something, right?
[14:31] <jhave> https://gist.github.com/jhaveDK/21e22853e4651691a46917bc3ffe249c
[14:31] <pavlos> jhave: paste systemd-resolve --status | grep 'DNS Servers'
[14:31] <jhave> jhave@devbox:~$ systemd-resolve --status | grep 'DNS Servers'
[14:31] <jhave>          DNS Servers: <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:33] <pavlos> jhave: netplan look ok
[14:33] <EriC^> k_sze: tbh i dont know about the drivers, somebody else might know though
[14:34] <EriC^> k_sze: if you run 'sudo efibootmgr -v' now, do you see a shimx64.efi file in the list?
[14:34] <jhave> as i understand do there run a local DNS server as default
[14:34] <k_sze> yep
[14:34] <jhave> DNS proxy*
[14:35] <pavlos> jhave: is your local DNS <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[14:36] <k_sze> Let me reboot first
[14:36] <EriC^^> k_sze: sorry i got dc, do you see shim?
[14:37] <jhave> I use a local pi hole server but there are no reason to use it
[14:37] <jhave> So <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS> is fine
[14:37] <leftyfb> jhave: that means your pihole isn't working
[14:38] <leftyfb> jhave: set the public ip's as your DNS in netplan until you get your local DNS fixed
[14:39] <k_sze> EriC^^, yep, I saw the shim. I've already rebooted with Secure Boot enabled.
[14:39] <jhave> There are no reson to run pihole for this server, its only run docker containers
[14:39] <k_sze> I think I need to run sudo update-secureboot-policy --enroll-key
[14:40] <k_sze> rebooting again, brb
[14:53] <k_sze> yay. I think it's all working now.
[15:00] <jhave> I can see this output on another server there work :S
[15:00] <jhave> jhave@docker:~$ systemd-resolve --status | grep 'Current DNS Server'
[15:00] <jhave>   Current DNS Server: <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:01] <jhave> But the non working server dont give any output
[15:15] <LordChaos> Hi, if I remove a snap package it seems the dependencies are not. Is this assumption correct?
[15:20] <pavlos> jhave: on the non-working server, systemctl status systemd-resolved.service
[15:49] <Sc0tty-> When I run apt update && apt upgrade on a 20.04 machine it fails to resolve some hosts, E: Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6_2.31-0ubuntu9.1_amd64.deb  Connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80], why would it fail to reach some hosts?
[15:49] <Sc0tty-> I can hit the IP in a browser
[15:52] <LordChaos> Sc0tty-: it seems to resolve fien, are you sure it's a DNS issue?
[15:54] <Sc0tty-> LordChaos: I'm not sure it's a DNS issue, not sure what's going on. It can hit the majority of the addresses when doing apt upgrade but fails on a few
[15:54] <bumblefuzz> I have 2 servers
[15:54] <LordChaos> Sc0tty-: and if you try a dfferent mirror?
[15:54] <bumblefuzz> 1 displays motd
[15:54] <bumblefuzz> the other doesn't
[15:54] <Sc0tty-> LordChaos: I'll give that a go
[15:55] <bumblefuzz> the weird thing is the server that displays motd has it disabled in sshd_config
[15:55] <lemoszsh> someone had a problem with the hash sum? i guess i will have to change the mirror too
[15:55] <bumblefuzz> and the server that doesn't display motd has it enabled in sshd_confgi
[15:55] <lemoszsh> looks like it's a problem with the file size
[15:55] <bumblefuzz> can anyone help me figure out what's going on?
[15:57] <Maik> bumblefuzz: try #ubuntu-server if no one replies :)
[15:59] <N3bulaK> Hey all, What is the way to monitor CPU temps?
[15:59] <LordChaos> Sc0tty-: try es.archive.ubuntu.com
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> Sc0tty-: if you sure its not your side, there's #ubuntu-mirrors for known issues on repos
[16:00] <LordChaos> thanks lotuspsychje
[16:00] <nilsson> hey, can someone here pass along a bug report to the package maintainer? the package in question is libpolyclipping-dev
[16:01] <Sc0tty-> LordChaos, I'll give it a go. I'm not 100% sure it's not my end as I can ping the IP it's failing to resolve in the apt upgrade
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> nilsson: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpolyclipping no open bugs so it seems
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> nilsson: whats the issue you are having?
[16:03] <ajayahmed> with hosts.deny or hosts.allow is it possible to do an ALL EXCEPT an IP address list from a remote URL?
[16:05] <nilsson> lotuspsychje, the pkg-config file has a blank version field, which affects anything that builds/links to it
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> nilsson: are you compiling things yourself or?
[16:06] <nilsson> it's an upstream bug, but Arch and Void have worked around it by adding "-DVERSION=..." to the package build script
[16:06] <nilsson> lotuspsychje, no, I installed the package from the default repo
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> ok
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> nilsson: maybe you could file a new ubuntu !bug and point the upstream bug on your description?
[16:07] <nilsson> I'll report it upstream too, but the project hasn't had a release in years, so idk if this will warrant it
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-bug packagename
[16:08] <Sc0tty-> LordChaos: only 1 package is failing to upgrade now
[16:08] <Sc0tty-> E: Failed to fetch http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/snapd/snapd_2.48+20.04_amd64.deb  Connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[16:08] <phunyguy> Anyone know of a way to force all discovered LVM volumes to be up with systemd on boot? I want them up but since there is no actual mountpoint specified in fstab, they are left in a down state at the wrong time.  I have a custom unit that depends on those devices being up, but I can't find the right unit to put in After=.
[16:10] <nilsson> lotuspsychje, I'm not going to jump thru the hoops necessary to file a bug report in ubuntu (or debian). I just wanted to give you a heads up, incase someone here wanted to fix it
[16:10] <nilsson> I will file a bug upstream
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> allright nilsson
[16:10] <nilsson> thanks for your time
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> thank you for the report
[16:11] <N3bulaK> What is the best way to play windows games on Ubuntu?
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> N3bulaK: wine, playonlinux, steam
[16:14] <N3bulaK> Thanks :)
[16:17] <zetheroo> Is it possible to have the nm-connection-editor in 20.04?
[16:17] <zetheroo> E: Unable to locate package nm-connection-editor
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: The NM-connections editor is where the user can edit and create the various connection types. To invoke the nm-connections editor you need to right-click on the nm-applet and then click on Edit Connections. Clicking on that option would result in a tabbed window called network connections having different ways to connect to the network/Internet.
[16:22] <coconut> N3bulaK, and lutris too
[16:24] <zetheroo> lotuspsychje: ok, thanks. The right-click solution didn't work for me (maybe I am not using the nm-applet!?), but I was able to get it started by with Alt+F2  and then executing nm-connection-editor.
[16:29] <coconut> N3bulaK, but be carefull with adding ppa's as there is no support here for other repo's than the default.
[16:36] <pavlos> bumblefuzz: cat /run/motd.dynamic ... do you see it?
[16:37] <pavlos> bumblefuzz: the scripts are in /etc/update-motd.d/
[17:23] <spl33n> Hello all, i need help to install pidgin in ubuntu 20.10.
[17:23] <spl33n> I recently upgrade my ubuntu to latest 20.10 release. Since this moment, I cannot use pidgin, so I removed it; When I tried to reinstall it, it cannot login to the configured accounts.
[17:23] <spl33n> I tried to install pidgin from official ubuntu repository, also with flatpak build and manual build from source.
[17:31] <ikonia> I didn't even know pidgin still existed
[17:59] <Intelo> which package to use for l2tp  meraki vpn setup? The bottom of this page says  "Since Client VPN uses the L2TP over IPsec standard, any Linux client that properly supports this standard should suffice. Please note that newer versions of Ubuntu do not ship with a VPN client that supports L2TP/IP, and will therefore require a 3rd party VPN client that supports the protocol."
[17:59] <Intelo> https://documentation.meraki.com/MX/Client_VPN/Client_VPN_OS_Configuration
[18:01] <conr> does anybody have suggestions on the best way to connect to a ubuntu box on a home network with all other devices are macOS based? vnc?
[18:04] <leftyfb> conr: by "connect to" you mean a remote desktop? Otherwise, I suggest SSH
[18:05] <conr> leftyfb: yes screening sharing
[18:06] <leftyfb> conr: future reference: please specify that detail. "connect to" could mean dozens of protocols
[18:06] <leftyfb> conr: to answer your question, there's VNC, RDP and online services like teamviewer which are all options
[18:07] <conr> currently i use vino and create a ssh tunnel then connect over vnc
[18:08] <conr> but just curious if there's any other options, so there's no much lag with scrolling and mouse actions.
[18:17] <compdoc> I use x2go. I think theres a mac client
[18:34] <conr> compdoc: whats the difference then using native screen sharing in macos?
[18:41] <Legousk> Hello All
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> welcome Legousk
[18:41] <Legousk> I started relatively recently with Ubuntu, and I am very happy with it
[18:41] <Legousk> But I seem to have some freezing problems that I cannot get rid of
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> great to hear Legousk welcome to the community
[18:42] <Legousk> Thank you lotuspsychje!
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> Legousk: can we see a dmesg of your system in a pastebin please?
[18:42] <mefistofeles> conr: commonly, those protocols that are proprietary and exclusive to some OS are optimized for them, so they use their local libraries and hardware for rendering, instead of transmitting bitmap with all the information, that can result in better latency
[18:44] <conr> mefistofeles: so you're point is x2go is better optimized?
[18:44] <mefistofeles> conr: compared to what?
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> !paste | Legousk
[18:46] <Legousk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Vdsdvtx5Nv/
[18:47] <conr> mefistofeles: macos native screensharing over vnc
[18:47] <Legousk> The freezing problems seem to happen without any real warning and do not seem to be related to something, or at least not something that comes to mind
[18:47] <mefistofeles> conr: I don't know about macos, sorry
[18:48] <Legousk> The only solution is to hard reboot
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> Legousk: what kind of cpu inside?
[18:49] <pavlos> CPU0: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor
[18:49] <Legousk> Exactly ;-)
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> tnx pavlos
[18:49] <Legousk> Was looking for it, but you were quicker than myself
[18:50] <compdoc> Legousk, you should read the SMART info from your drives to see if they are dying. Also, if its a desktop, power supplies commonly go bad
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> Legousk: can we see a paste of sudo lshw -C video aswell?
[18:51] <mefistofeles> compdoc: though, a complete freeze is hardle ever due to problems with storage. Most likely GPU related or RAM
[18:51] <mefistofeles> *hardly
[18:51] <compdoc> mefistofeles, not true
[18:52] <Legousk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3RN78yJfhm/
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> Legousk: ubuntu-drivers list, gives you a few nvidia drivers?
[18:54] <Legousk> Yes, 6 to be exact
[18:54] <Legousk> Or at least 6 lines
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> Legousk: ok, try to install one and reboot and see if you can improve your issue
[18:55] <pavlos> is there a recommended ?
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> Legousk: if not volunteers can help you with other steps
[18:56] <Legousk> Ok, I will need slightly more info than this to be sure I am doing the correct thing
[18:56] <Legousk> Reinstall? Uninstall first?
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> Legousk: you can pick an nvidia driver from software&sources/tab additional drivers
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> Legousk: you are using nouveau now, more reccomended to use the nvidia driver to get the most out your card
[18:59] <Legousk> I install 1 of them? Doesn't matter which one?
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> Legousk: usualy the latest version, or one below are good choices
[19:01] <Legousk> Ok
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> Legousk: you can also do what pavlos suggested, the reccomended one from terminal; ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[19:02] <Legousk> It is installing from Additional Drivers now. takes some time
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> ok, good luck Legousk
[19:02] <Legousk> Thank you for your help all :-)
[19:03] <Legousk> Hope this solves it, else I will for sure find somebody else to help me here
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> Legousk: this isnt a promise for your freezes, so if you keep having them, come back ok
[19:03] <Legousk> I will, don't worry. Thank you for your time.
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> np
[19:04] <Legousk> Learning a lot with Ubuntu, but there is still a steep curve ahead :D
[19:14] <Intelo> which package to use for l2tp  meraki vpn setup? The bottom of this page says  "Since Client VPN uses the L2TP over IPsec standard, any Linux client that properly supports this standard should suffice. Please note that newer versions of Ubuntu do not ship with a VPN client that supports L2TP/IP, and will therefore require a 3rd party VPN client that supports the protocol."
[19:14] <Intelo> https://documentation.meraki.com/MX/Client_VPN/Client_VPN_OS_Configuration
[19:14] <Intelo> I am using xubuntu
[19:15] <octav1a> Hey all, i'm trying to set apt to pull from deb repository on ubunt 18.04 as described in this post: https://jabriffa.wordpress.com/2019/06/27/installing-grid-engine-on-ubuntu-18-04-lts/ , however, the gridengine packages are still coming from bionic instead. How can I debug this?
[19:16] <octav1a> The reason i'm doing this is because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gridengine/+bug/1774302 , of which there is only a hacky 'copy over these library files' solution.
[19:19] <sarnold> octav1a: would it be easier to upgrade to focal and get the newer gridengine that way, rather than maintain a frankensystem?
[19:20] <jwhitmore> Thunderbird - Sorry I'm trying to remotely get a family member sorted with editing the existing email account configuration on their Thunderbird application. There's no longer a menu bar across the top of an application so there's no apparent way to edit the configuration. The very top "thunderbird" label just offers the "quit" option, and the "burger" menu option on the top right of the interface offers options on how to view emails, but no config
[19:20] <jwhitmore> options.  I got them to send me a picture and I'm none the wiser. Is the best way to edit the configuration to just edit the config files?
[19:21] <octav1a> sarnold: I tried focal first, and the same segfault bug is STILL in the main ubuntu repos (since 16.04)
[19:21] <octav1a> so it's either debs or manual compile, I think
[19:21] <sarnold> jwhitmore: I've never used thunderbird, but at least firefox lets you bring up the menu with alt+f (to bring up File) and then you can see the menu to interact with it
[19:21] <sarnold> octav1a: oh. bummer.
[19:22] <orogor> how do i setup dual boot if i have an efi partition ? would ubuntu natively support it or would it break with each update ?
[19:22] <sarnold> octav1a: usually pinning problems are made visible by running "apt policy" or "apt policy <packagename>" until you spot something
[19:22] <orogor> and i mean dual two ubuntu
[19:23] <EriC^^> orogor: yes ubuntu supports efi, itll use your efi partition in the installation
[19:23] <jwhitmore> sarnold, alf+f thanks I'll try that. Just looking at this picture and the email accounts are in a pain on the LHS so perhpas it's a right click. I'll try those
[19:23] <orogor> EriC^^,  /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grub.cfg  makes reference to a single partition
[19:24] <orogor> EriC^^,  i am looking for dual booting two ubuntu , i guess i was not clear
[19:26] <EriC^^> orogor: you can use 1 grub for both, they'll both show up in the grub menu
[19:26] <octav1a> sarnold: Thank you for the suggestion. It seems that the priority from /etc/apt/preferences.d/debian is not being applied properly? I see something like this: https://bpa.st/YEAQ
[19:27] <octav1a> What is the significance of the two numbers 500/1000 and 500/10 ?
[19:28] <sarnold> octav1a: hmm, it says Candidate: <debian version>
[19:28] <sarnold> octav1a: would this be fixed by running sudo apt install -f ?
[19:29] <octav1a> I can install the debian one by running apt with "-t stretch" , but if I leave that out it uses the bionic one
[19:29] <octav1a> in between these I am purging, so nothing need be fixed.
[19:30] <octav1a> ok actually now it's working without -t
[19:30] <octav1a> ???
[19:31] <octav1a> I will start from scratch and see why
[20:38] <pavlos> octavia: man apt_preferences explains the priority numbers you see in apt-cache policy <pkg>
[22:39] <Franciman> Hi, I have an ubuntu oem
[22:39] <Franciman> is there a way to retrieve a diff file showing all the patches applied to the pure kernel to get the ubuntu oem?
[22:40] <jpds> Not unless you have the source package for that kernel
[22:40] <Franciman> if not, I should call my vendor, right?
[22:40] <Franciman> and if I do?
[22:41] <jpds> Yeah, you'd have to ask them for it
[22:43] <entourage> after I've installed fish how do I set fish as the default shell?
[22:43] <Franciman> you can use the chsh command
[22:47] <sarnold> Franciman: does apt policy report where you get the kernel from? perhaps they've packaged sources alongside the binaries to satisfy gpl obligations, in which case an apt-get source on the package name may do the job
[22:48] <Franciman> let me try, I don't know, I'm new to this
[22:48] <Franciman> I just want to get back to debian, with all the ubuntu patches :P
[22:48] <Franciman> there is something in the ath10k drivers that makes it work
[23:53] <nib_blockhead> Has anyone used Ubuntu as WSL in Win10?
[23:54] <dax> yep, support for it is in ##windows or #ubuntu-on-windows


[01:03] <Carlosweb> hola que tal ...tengo una duda no he podido crear los rom para hacer bootear unos diskless......alguien me podria colaborar? .....
[01:04] <Carlosweb> I have a dobut .....I cant make a rom for some clients .....somebody could help me? ....
[02:51] <funwlinux> has anyone tried to upgrade from edubuntu 7.10 server to 8.04 beta?
[09:45] <SIRavecavec> hi all i have a really big problem newbie and cant do a thing
[09:45] <SIRavecavec> :(
[09:46] <SIRavecavec> i updated from 6.06 to 6.10 edgy and when its reeboted its says that could not open x window system
[15:02] <stgraber> ogra: I have the avahi scripts ready for iTalc !!!
[15:03] <stgraber> ogra: that just rocks, you start italc and you get an auto-generated classroom with all the computers you have access to (I check the keys too)
[15:19] <pygi> :P


[07:25] <chris4585> hello
[11:44] <wrst> hey hey chris4585 long time no see
[11:52] <cyberanger> hey chris4585
[13:55] <chris4585> hey wrst, and cyberanger
[13:55] <chris4585> I'm back in TN now
[13:56] <chris4585> have been since April, I went on vacation and just decided to stay
[14:00] <wrst> awesome chris4585
[14:00] <wrst> how have things been going?
[14:08] <chris4585-2> sorry my laptop crapped out
[14:08] <chris4585-2> I've been running ubuntu on a live flash drive for about 2 weeks now and occasionally I need to restart or it craps out on me lol
[14:09] <chris4585-2> I need to buy a hard drive for this thing but I'm a cheapskate
[14:48] <cyberanger> chris4585: nice mate, fl will miss you........but that's their problem ;-)
[16:33] <chris4585> cyberanger, indeed, I left my stuff there, I haven't really planned on getting any of it either
[17:34] <wrst> so chris4585... have any nice stuff we should go to FL and get? :)
[17:36] <chris4585> well my mom is coming up sometime soon for a visit she said she'd bring my fancy electronics lol
[17:42] <wrst> oh well
[17:42] <wrst> that ruins my dream :)
[17:58] <chris4585> lol


[10:00] <NickPresta> wathek, check this topic (http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=579540) specifically posts #2 and #4. Then,
[10:00] <NickPresta> facugaich, you're missing that script then. Strange. I can send you my script and you can place it in there.
[10:00] <wathek> NickPresta: the card I've is a 82801H
[10:01] <facugaich> NickPresta: wait, there must be another way. I exited the update notifier and chose to deactivate run-on-start-up
[10:02] <NickPresta> facugaich, oh! You should just re-enable it then. It was add the script back to it then
[10:02] <sayers> Hello I can't export Xvids with DigiKam any and all help please?
[10:02] <_4strO> facugaich: K /system settings / advanced / system services
[10:02] <ScorpKing> hi people. what is the best cli torrent client to use?
[10:03] <facugaich> _4strO: It's not there
[10:03] <facugaich> NickPresta: how do I re-enable it?
[10:03] <BluesKaj> nowYZ, konq/configure konqueror/Browser ID/ check send identification/check that mozilla 5 is your default and that google.com listed in the box below
[10:04] <BluesKaj> oops
[10:05] <BluesKaj> otalivan, open adept or synaptic and do a search for "nvidia-glx". Install that and it should work (you might have to change /etc/X11/xorg.conf to "nvidia" rather than "nv", I don't remember if that's automatic or not).
[10:06] <xp_killer> NickPresta: how do i fix the police for konversation i'm killin my eyes to see what people are saying
[10:06] <xp_killer> O_O
[10:06] <NickPresta> facugaich,  K /system settings / advanced / system services
[10:06] <NickPresta> xp_killer, I don't know what you're talking about
[10:07] <xp_killer> NickPresta: THE WORDS IN KONVERSATION IS TO SMALL I WANT THEM BIGGER
[10:07] <NickPresta> !attitude | xp_killer
[10:07] <ubotu> xp_killer: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:07] <NickPresta> !caps | xp_killer
[10:07] <ubotu> xp_killer: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:07] <facugaich> NickPresta: It's not there. What should I be looking for?
[10:08] <NickPresta> facugaich, apt-index-watcher
[10:08] <BluesKaj> xp_killer, have you considered looking around in konverstaion settings yourself ... it's pretty simple to find fonts idf you just look
[10:10] <_4str1> facugaich: i have the same problem, it's lok like when we desactivate it, it simply remove the apt-index-watcher from the /etc/init.d/ rep
[10:10] <xp_killer> BluesKaj: lol
[10:11] <BluesKaj> xp_killer, we'renot here to hold your hand , you have to to do somethings yourself
[10:11] <facugaich> _4str1: indeed
[10:11] <Yck-Ptaiza> is it possible to install kubuntu without having a cd to burn it? (i already have a partition with Ubuntu installed)
[10:11] <NickPresta> facugaich, you could try removing apt-index-watcher and reinstalling it
[10:11] <WaxyFres1> how do i edit what programs start automaticly?
[10:11] <WaxyFres1> Yck-Ptaiza: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:11] <NickPresta> WaxyFres1, K Menu > Sytem Settings > Advanced Tab > System Services
[10:11] <_4str1> NickPresta: there isn't any package with this name :/
[10:12] <Yck-Ptaiza> WaxyFres1 downloading the iso is not possible?
[10:12] <WaxyFres1> Yck-Ptaiza: no idea.whats wrong with my idea?
[10:13] <BCMM> what is the application called which appears when you use the volume keys on your keyboard in?
[10:13] <BCMM> (i'm trying to find and install it on a non-kubuntu box, but i've only ever seen it on kubuntu)
[10:13] <mille_> waxyfres1 check KCron
[10:14] <xp_killer> :p
[10:14] <WaxyFres1> is there a command that lists every registerd user on a machine?
[10:15] <NickPresta> _4str1, apt-index-watcher was a package in edgy. Oops.
[10:15] <Tm_T> WaxyFres1: what you mean by registered?
[10:15] <_4str1> WaxyFres1: users
[10:15] <WaxyFres1> i set up a friends computer with kubuntu and dont remember what user name i used
[10:15] <mille_> open kuser
[10:15] <WaxyFres1> cant log in or i would use kuser
[10:16] <Savak> BCMM - it's kmix
[10:16] <mille_> ok
[10:16] <_4str1> WaxyFres1: oups : cat /etc/passwd
[10:17] <elzbal> Waxy: You'll need to start it up from a livecd, open the existing drive, and take a look at /etc/passwd
[10:17] <waylandbill> WaxyFres1: even better is: grep "/bin/bash" /etc/passwd
[10:17] <_4str1> WaxyFres1: cat /etc/passwd| grep 1000 (if the user you looking for is the first you create)
[10:18] <mille_> cat /etc/passwd | more
[10:18] <xp_killer> mille_: wa is that?
[10:18] <winbond> or cat /etc/passwd | cut -d":" -f1
[10:18] <BCMM> Savak: kmix does that? thanks
[10:19] <mcquaid> are there any plans for kde beta 2 pkgs?
[10:19] <_4str1> cat /etc/passwd | grep 1000 | cut -d":" -f1
[10:19] <_4str1> ^^
[10:19] <BCMM> hmm, so when forward track and back track work, that's Amarok doing it?
[10:19] <_4str1> cat /etc/passwd | grep 1000 | cut -d":" -f1  will give only the name :p
[10:19] <waylandbill> grep -v "/bin/false" /etc/passwd
[10:19] <bona> hi
[10:20] <Savak> don't follow you BCMM :p
[10:20] <BCMM> well, on my brother's machine, there is a next track button
[10:20] <BCMM> which just seems to work
[10:20] <BCMM> i guess amarok is configured that way by default
[10:20] <waylandbill> _4str1: cat'ing something and piping to grep is the same as just giving a file name to grep
[10:21] <Savak> yes, it would be totally seperate to the on screen volume
[10:21] <bona> :P i cant write a (at).. but the keyboard layer is correct :(
[10:21] <_4str1> waylandbill: yep i know
[10:22] <xp_killer> bona: if the layot is corect then the keyboard is aiming the barbage
[10:22] <deviance> Conversation with su failed. What does that mean?
[10:22] <xp_killer> deviance:  google is your friend ;-)
[10:22] <bona> what is "the barbage" ?
[10:22] <ch40s> are there any good dock programs for KDE?
[10:22] <ch40s> similar to OSX
[10:23] <emilsedgh_> ch40s: kxdocker, ksmoothdock and kooldock
[10:23] <waylandbill> _4str1: so the cool command would be best written as: grep -v "/bin/false" /etc/password | cut -d":" -f1    :-)
[10:23] <kwilliam> ch40s: as far as I know... no.
[10:23] <ch40s> !dock
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <xp_killer> bona: trash
[10:23] <facugaich> _4str1: what can we do?
[10:23] <deviance> xp_killer I can only find the answer for 6.06, not for 7.04
[10:23] <ch40s> personal favorite emilsedgh_?
[10:23] <_4str1> waylandbill: the reason is that often i cat a file to see if it's the good one and then i just use the up arrow to dont have to retype all things and then jst put a pipe ...
[10:23] <emilsedgh_> ch40s: none :)
[10:23] <bona> aaaahhh okey...
[10:23] <ch40s> haha cool
[10:23] <NickPresta> ch40s, check out 'avant-window-navigator'
[10:23] <_4str1> facugaich: the easyer way is to recreate it manually :p
[10:23] <ch40s> ok
[10:23] <deviance> And cat /etc/sudoers/ doesnt exist
[10:23] <xp_killer> deviance: so try sudo
[10:24] <emilsedgh_> ch40s: i dont like docks :P
[10:24] <bona> hmm whit windows it has work... but now i have linux :P
[10:24] <facugaich> _4str1: or to ask NickPresta for his
[10:24] <waylandbill> _4str1: oh. interactive. I would think it would be most useful in a shell script for use later, but to each his own. :-D
[10:24] <NickPresta> ch40s, http://code.google.com/p/avant-window-navigator/
[10:24] <ch40s> NickPresta: ty
[10:24] <Savak> BCMM, if your talking about a laptop, you may also need kmilo
[10:25] <deviance> xp_killer I was launching adept how do I do it with sudo?
[10:25] <eder> hi to all
[10:26] <xp_killer> bona: are u shore u put the right layout?
[10:26] <NickPresta> facugaich, _4str1, http://nickpresta.ath.cx/temp/apt-index-watcher . Place that in /etc/init.d/ Then run `sudo update-rc.d apt-index-watcher default`
[10:26] <_4str1> facugaich: http://4strO.is-a-geek.org/~cedric/apt-index-watcher
[10:26] <_4str1> NickPresta: :)
[10:26] <facugaich> NickPresta, _4str1: thanks
[10:26] <bona> hmm not 100% but i think so... i go check it :P
[10:27] <xp_killer> deviance: to install with sudo open a konsole type sudo apt-get install "name of what u want install"
[10:27] <deviance> Hmm
[10:27] <deviance> What does xhost + mean
[10:27] <deviance> Its supposed to fix the SU problem
[10:29] <BluesKaj> !su
[10:29] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:29] <facugaich> NickPresta: well that didn't work but I probably have to change 'default' to 'defaults' right?
[10:29] <milian_> Riddell: where should bugs in your strigi applet be filed? launchpad or kde bugtracker?
[10:31] <milian> the problem is, that when you move kicker to the top of the screen (with your tray bar) the input field is still shown above kicker
[10:31] <milian> thus nearly outside the screen
[10:31] <NickPresta> facugaich, yes. Sorry about that :)
[10:31] <facugaich> NickPresta: np, thank youi
[10:32] <winbond> when are the kde4 b2 packages gonna be ready?
[10:33] <mcquaid> anyone know if there are any plans of releasing beta 2 packages?
[10:33] <deviance> xp_killer: A restart has fixed the problem. But on restart I was told my Hard disk has been 49710 days with out a check LOL
[10:34] <deviance> In 7.04 are restricted repositories enabled by defaukt?
[10:35] <xp_killer> deviance: O_o all those days
[10:35] <deviance> I don't think its quite right :P
[10:35] <BluesKaj> winbond, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha2.php
[10:35] <deviance> I did one about a year ago
[10:35] <deviance> Wow, it looks like they are :D
[10:36] <deviance> 116 packages to update :D
[10:36] <_4strO> rhooo that's unfair the /usr/sbin/apt-index-watcher didn't exist ...
[10:37] <deviance> Right, on a new install of Kubuntu, what packages would you install first? (After the update?
[10:37] <deviance> Graphics drivers?
[10:37] <Savak> i usually remove a load of packages first hehe
[10:37] <deviance> lol :P
[10:38] <deviance> Also, if I install nVidia GLX will it automaticly install? or are there alod of commands I have to do myself?
[10:38] <hydrogen> deviance: thats completly dependant on what exactly it is you want to get out of your computer
[10:38] <thill2708> I have kmail setup to access two of my gmail accounts, and everything was going ok, but now I have two emails stuck in the outbox that won't send. Any thoughts?
[10:38] <deviance> thill2708: See if they will send through gmail.com
[10:39] <thill2708> deviance: oh, I already logged into gmail over the web and sent test messages as well. All's fine on that end.
[10:40] <deviance> thill2708:  Send a message to yourself and see if Kmail will pick it up
[10:40] <Riddell> milian: launchpad I guess
[10:40] <sambiase> hi there...i wonder if there is a kubuntu version for USB? I want to install Kubuntu on my USB stick and run from there
[10:40] <milian> Riddell: ok, thanks
[10:41] <thill2708> deviance: Sits in the outbox still :(
[10:41] <drewcipher_> thill2708:  was it working or is this a new set up?
[10:41] <deviance> Does it pick up the incoming mail?
[10:41] <thill2708> ah hah! A window just popped up for the first time saying a timeout has occured on smtp.gmai.com
[10:41] <thill2708> gmail.com
[10:41] <thill2708> first time it did that
[10:42] <drewcipher_> thill2708:  use pop.gmail.com port 995 SSL
[10:43] <thill2708> drewcipher_: to send?
[10:43] <thill2708> drewcipher_: ok, using that server, that port, enabling ssl
[10:43] <drewcipher_> thill2708:  sorry, no you're right.  that's for piick up.
[10:44] <xp_killer> stdin: how do i save the rooms so i dont have to type them again to connect
[10:44] <drewcipher_> thill2708:  my gmail is set to (outbound)   smtp.gmail.com port 587 using TLS
[10:44] <deviance> What is the difference between the 5 or so pannels you get to choose from?
[10:44] <stdin> xp_killer: in konversation you go to the server list, click edit and you can add them there
[10:45] <thill2708> drewcipher_: ah, mines on 465.
[10:46] <winbond> 32 or 64bit?
[10:46] <_4strO> winbond: wii
[10:46] <_4strO> :)
[10:47] <winbond> _4strO: got a xbox360 already
[10:47] <xp_killer> stdin:  server list???
[10:48] <_4strO> he didn't*
[10:48] <deviance> ARG How do I make a second pannel and move it to the top?
[10:48] <deviance> It moves the main one and I cant seem to move the second one
[10:48] <winbond> _4strO: which one r u running?
[10:48] <xp_killer> stdin: do u mean book mark?
[10:49] <_4strO> winbond: windowsXP :p
[10:49] <winbond> _4strO: 32 or 64
[10:49] <_4strO> 32
[10:50] <winbond> i read that 64bit is faster for compiling stuff, so im thinking of using it
[10:50] <_4strO> i have a dual boot so ubuntu for working and windows XP for playing
[10:50] <xp_killer> stdin: i lauch real player the logo freez on the screen.i try alt+f4 and alt+ctrl+escap it didnt close it
[10:50] <Xera> How do I remove something that I compiled?
[10:50] <Xera> It has no make uninstall :(
[10:50] <xp_killer> stdin: oh wait it just work ouf
[10:51] <stdin> xp_killer: for konversation hit f2 then edit
[10:51] <NickPresta> winbond, you rarely compile things in a binary distribution like *buntu. Plus, you run into other problems due to 64-bit (Flash, etc).
[10:51] <winbond> Xera: -remove?
[10:51] <stdin> xp_killer: also, consider asking the channel the questions, not just me
[10:51] <_4strO> NickPresta: the updater is called adept_notifier in feisty :p
[10:52] <xp_killer> stdin: :p
[10:52] <_4strO> and to activate it i had just to launch it :p
[10:52] <xp_killer> lol
[10:52] <thill2708> drewcipher_: what's your smtp settings again? I'm getting not supported errors
[10:53] <xp_killer> stdin: how come your not allways there these days?
[10:53] <winbond> NickPresta: i guess u're right, im not gonna compile that much
[10:53] <Xera> winbond: I'm not sure I follow, if you mean "make install -remove" or "make -remove" I tried that
[10:53] <stdin> xp_killer: because I have a life :p and because I like to idle on IRC
[10:53] <elite101> :D
[10:53] <elite101> hello
[10:53] <drewcipher_> thill2708:  checking and doing a test message so I don't waste any more of your time.
[10:54] <thill2708> drewcipher_: ... I am... but.. nevermind.
[10:54] <elite101> i have a IRC channel #console-bash and i cant remember on how to sign in and be Op again?
[10:54] <elite101> there is a IRC command
[10:54] <thill2708> drewcipher_: It would just be faster to ask you, instead of trying each encryption protocol and getting an unsupported error
[10:54] <xp_killer> xp_killer: why idle and u can feel much better by helpin people
[10:54] <hydrogen> elite101: ask in #freenode
[10:54] <hydrogen> its not a question for here
[10:54] <elite101> errr
[10:54] <elite101> yeah
[10:55] <xp_killer> stdin: if u dont speek i dont see why u come here just to show your self
[10:55] <winbond> Xera: i was just thinking u can try make -remove, but it probably wont work
[10:55] <Xera> Ok
[10:55] <Xera> In case it helps, it's Lua 5.1.2 that I compiled
[10:55] <stdin> xp_killer: I keep an eye on the channel, and kick the baddies out
[10:56] <elite101> :D
[10:56] <drewcipher_> thill2708:  tested.  My settings:      smtp.gmail.com  port 587<EMAIL_ADDRESS>TLS
[10:56] <winbond> Xera: if there is no uninstall i guess you'll have to delete manually
[10:56] <winbond> Xera: unless someone in here knows a better way
[10:57] <_4strO> sometimes stdin become stdout !
[10:57] <xp_killer> oh stdin
[10:57] <stdin> BluesKaj ?
[10:58] <xp_killer> :D
[10:58] <drewcipher_> thill2708:   checking my headers for my test message.  maybe I'm on the pipe here.
[10:58] <BluesKaj> stdin,pm
[10:58] <stdin> elite101: oh, and it's "/cs op #channel"
[11:00] <stdin> !away > deviance|away
[11:00] <deviance|away> (sorry)
[11:01] <xp_killer> stdin: how do u kick the bad people out?are u a mod?
[11:02] <deviance|away> What packages are needed for MySQL with PHP
[11:02] <mcquaid> is a really minimal mp3 player thats qt3 based?  My voip provider emails my voicemail to me, and I don't want to use amarok to play a quick voice mp3
[11:02] <stdin> xp_killer: if you want to ask general questions, ask them in #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:02] <mcquaid> uh is there a..
[11:02] <stdin> xp_killer: and yeah, I am
[11:02] <drewcipher_> thill2708:  my system is pretty hacked.  Going to try on a clean system.  From reading, all suggest your initial settings were correct using smtp.gmail.com 465      Can you see if that port is open:   #>telnet smtp.gmail.com 465
[11:02] <_4strO> mcquaid: xmms
[11:02] <xp_killer> stdin: lol how do i become one?
[11:03] <dale_> could someone help me out with sound problems
[11:03] <dale_> ?
[11:03] <mcquaid> of course i know of xmms.  I said qt3 based.
[11:03] <_4strO> oups
[11:03] <stdin> xp_killer: I'll answer that in #kubuntu-offtopic only
[11:03] <BluesKaj> dale_, describe your problem
[11:03] <ubuntu_> does anyone know which file tells X which display manager to use at startup?
[11:04] <stdin> deviance|away: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:04] <thill2708>  drewcipher_: yeah, recieving is perfect. It's the sending that's the problem :(
[11:04] <dale_> I've got my sound card recognized, but it only wants to play through the front jacks on my comp
[11:04] <ubuntu_> mcquaid: juk?
[11:04] <_4strO> ubuntu_: is you want change try to sudo dpkg reconfigure *dm
[11:04] <kkathman> hmm ok whats the secret to getting a sound to play when mail comes in? I went to system settings and turned on the sound, associated a wav/ogg with the event, but when you click thatTest button nothing happens. But when I play through amarok or from Konq its fine?
[11:04] <thill2708> drewcipher_: yup, can telnet to it
[11:04] <kkathman> this a bug?
[11:05] <dale_> i can't have it play through the front jacks though because I lost the install manual and the online mans for my motherboard don't match the pins I have on it.
[11:05] <dale_> BluesKaj: think you can help?
[11:05] <BluesKaj> yeah hangon
[11:06] <Xera> WTH Adept started removing my entire system
[11:07] <michacz> .
[11:07] <Xera> Note to self: Do not try and remove a package with the kubuntu logo next to it
[11:07] <BluesKaj> dale_, ok first of all , open system settings/sound system/enable sound system/hardwaretab/select audio device/alsa
[11:08] <dale_> k
[11:08] <BluesKaj> alsa=advanced linux sound architecture
[11:09] <kkathman> looks as if kde control center doesn work worth a diddly :)
[11:09] <dale_> BluesKaj: gotcha
[11:10] <zlittell> hey guys... when i do a PxE install i only get a shell... like i can take the laptop around and stuff but when i boot i just get a shell... am i doing
[11:10] <zlittell> something wrong
[11:10] <BluesKaj> ok, now open kmix ...the speaker icon in the panel/mixer
[11:10] <dale_> BluesKaj: k
[11:11] <BluesKaj> output tab
[11:11] <parsnip> hey all
[11:11] <dale_> BluesKaj: k
[11:11] <Alpha_Cluster> is there a way to get a button to open konsole when you right click on your desktop?
[11:11] <parsnip> can someone help me with this command I wrote
[11:11] <parsnip> find -name '*.jpg' -exec convert {} Album.png\;
[11:11] <drewcipher_> thill2708:  will take me a few to get a clean system with kmail up.  I'm sure you tried this but not sure about step 15:  http://pastebin.ca/682926
[11:11] <BluesKaj> sliders , master pcm and iec958 playback at 70% or so.. dale
[11:12] <parsnip> I want to go through a folder / subfolders and convert the images (1 per folder) to album.png (I have imagemagik installed)
[11:12] <dale_> BluesKaj: no iec958
[11:13] <parsnip> can anyone advise please
[11:13] <savetheWorld> parsnip: each image will be named album.png?
[11:13] <BluesKaj> ok dale whatever the slider to the left of the pc speaker is
[11:14] <parsnip> savetheWorld: yes, there is one in each folder
[11:14] <savetheWorld> parsnip: what are those images named now?
[11:14] <dale_> BluesKaj:that's "Front"
[11:14] <parsnip> savetheWorld: they just all have random names atthe moment
[11:14] <dale_> BluesKaj: which I cannot set up atm
[11:14] <BluesKaj> parsnip, Album.png\; ?  ... shouldn't it be Album.png/; ?
[11:14] <parsnip> savetheWorld: but are all jpg
[11:14] <savetheWorld> parsnip: do they have a common extension?
[11:14] <savetheWorld> heh yes.
[11:15] <savetheWorld> parsnip - whats the command to convert just one to album.png?
[11:15] <evri2> guys i cannot use audacity.It doesn't play my files
[11:15] <BluesKaj> ok dale , in the konsole type alsamixer
[11:15] <parsnip> convert input.jpg output.png
[11:15] <angasule> hey, --purge only removes stuff in /etc but not $HOME, correct?
[11:15] <savetheWorld> parsnip: that converst the format as well?
[11:15] <savetheWorld> *converts
[11:15] <parsnip> yep..imagemagik :D
[11:16] <savetheWorld> lets see- the first part is find . -name "*.jpg"
[11:16] <parsnip> !imagemagik
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about imagemagik - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <stdin> angasule: yeah, you have to remove the files from ~/ manually
[11:16] <dale_> BluesKaj: k
[11:16] <angasule> stdin: cool, just wanted confirmation, thanks :)
[11:17] <BluesKaj> dale use the arrow keys and the M Key to unmute the contrls there and make sure master pcm and line and all the surrounsds etc all hve '00' s in the box ...set the ctrl sliders to 65-70%
[11:17] <savetheWorld> parsnip  find . -name "*.jpg" -exec convert {}  Blah.png.
[11:17] <savetheWorld> parsnip: we need to replace the Blah.
[11:17] <parsnip> savetheWorld: with the /; on the end
[11:18] <dale_> BluesKaj: done
[11:18] <savetheWorld> parsnip: what does the '; do?
[11:18] <eder> Hi to everyone
[11:18] <savetheWorld> parsnip: what does the /; do?
[11:19] <eder> i need some help with a video card
[11:19] <eder> please help me
[11:19] <BluesKaj> ok, dale in the konsole type : sudo asoundconf list
[11:19] <eder> oye BluesKaj hablas espaol?
[11:20] <parsnip> savetheWorld: seems to be on all the examples of a find command with exec in it
[11:20] <BluesKaj> !es | eder
[11:20] <ubotu> eder: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:20] <eder> no, i just was aking
[11:20] <eder> no, i just was asking
[11:20] <savetheWorld> parsnip: yes - it goes at the end.  so the ";" can be passed to the subshell.
[11:21] <BluesKaj> dale, did it list the sound card name ?
[11:21] <dale_> BluesKaj: yes
[11:21] <dale_> BluesKaj: nvidia mcp61
[11:21] <eder> People, please help with a video card Nvidia FX 5200
[11:21] <BluesKaj> no eder, but my sister does ...she studied spanish in madrid and taught spanish after
[11:21] <blue112_> Ayam mon pere \o/
[11:22] <parsnip> savetheWorld: ok man thanks for the help, i can do it with gui but fancied a challenge :)
[11:22] <eder> i downloaded this driver from nvidia.com >>>>>>>>>>> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run
[11:22] <eder> and installed
[11:22] <savetheWorld> parsnip: by clicking? ewww!
[11:22] <eder> but the x dont start
[11:22] <BluesKaj> dale, ok again in the console : sudo asoundconf set-default-card "nvidia mcp61"
[11:22] <parsnip> hehe
[11:23] <parsnip> im learning :D
[11:23] <zeemon> the only nvidia drivers that work for me where the Automatix ones
[11:23] <eder> zeemon, now i cant start my X server, what can i do?
[11:24] <dale_> BluesKaj: it only shows nvidia for asoundconf
[11:24] <BluesKaj> ok, that should be ok
[11:24] <parsnip> savetheWorld:
[11:24] <parsnip> $ find . -name "*.jpg" -exec convert {} Album.png\;
[11:24] <parsnip> find: missing argument to `-exec'
[11:25] <dale_> BluesKaj: it does nothing
[11:25] <eder> can anybody help me plz? is that im new in Linux and i dont know what to do
[11:25] <stdin> parsnip: put a space before \
[11:26] <parsnip> savetheWorld: whats the difference between " and '
[11:27] <parsnip> savetheWorld: it executes now but does nothing
[11:27] <BluesKaj> dale , back to the kmix settings , input tab , line cd and any playback ctrls at 70% , then switches playback and mix are turned on
[11:27] <parsnip> savetheWorld: ive got my LPI book out :D
[11:28] <zeemon> hey eder u speak more spanish than english?
[11:28] <eder> yeap
[11:29] <eder> sorry zeemon
[11:29] <eder> but i can speak some english and undestand it
[11:29] <zeemon> ok no prob im from mexico
[11:29] <zeemon> but this channel is just in english
[11:29] <eder> Ok zeemon can we open a private window?
[11:30] <zeemon> im not registered but join #linux-mexico
[11:31] <eder> can i get help with my problem in linux-mexico zeemon?
[11:31] <zeemon> im there
[11:31] <eder> Ok
[11:31] <stdin> there is a #kubuntu-es too
[11:32] <eder> kubuntu es is always empty
[11:32] <stdin> #ubuntu-es then :p
[11:32] <bjwebb_> hi
[11:33] <bjwebb_> ive brocken apt :S
[11:33] <bjwebb_> hello?
[11:33] <drif> !adeptfix | bjwebb_
[11:33] <ubotu> bjwebb_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:34] <bjwebb> drif: nah
[11:34] <bjwebb> not that
[11:34] <drif> bjwebb: then be more specific...
[11:34] <drif> bjwebb: broke doesn't mean anything.. at first atleast I think of that scenario above
[11:34] <bjwebb> drif: for example...
[11:34] <bjwebb> apt-cache search test
[11:35] <bjwebb> just hangs
[11:35] <radioaktivstorm> is there a reason that i am not able to brows the web with konqueror while all my other programs can see the internet? i changed access points.
[11:35] <bjwebb> and i get lots of lsb_release apport and apt-cache
[11:36] <bjwebb> drif: any idea?
[11:36] <parsnip> savetheWorld: thanks for the help dude
[11:36] <parsnip> savetheWorld: i gota split
[11:36] <slougi> radioaktivstorm: knetworkmanager can do that if you don't connect through it
[11:36] <parsnip> savetheWorld: peace
[11:36] <savetheWorld> np
[11:36] <slougi> radioaktivstorm: it's very very very annoying
[11:37] <radioaktivstorm> slougi: yes... quite. thanks for the insight
[11:37] <slougi> you're welcome
[11:38] <bjwebb> can anyone help me fix apt?
[11:38] <_2> bjwebb are you saying that     apt-cache search '^bash '    doesn't work, sorry i haven't kept up   ?
[11:38] <bjwebb> yeah
[11:38] <bjwebb> it just hangs
[11:39] <_2> bjwebb sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:39] <bjwebb> and i get multiple listings of lsb_release, apport and apt-cache in ps -A
[11:39] <bjwebb> and it slows down
[11:40] <bjwebb> _2: i did that, but it didn't improve
[11:40] <_2> bjwebb sudo apt-get install -f ;sudo apt-get --reinstall install dpkg
[11:40] <_2> maybe even in reverse order
[11:41] <bjwebb> apt-get hangs like apt-cache
[11:41] <_2> bjwebb gutsy ?
[11:41] <bjwebb> nah feisty
[11:42] <bjwebb> hmm i think i might have got something to with the kernel over apt-get upgrade recently
[11:42] <bjwebb> should i have done?
[11:43] <_2> try booting the older kernel and see if that's it
[11:43] <brmassa> guys, i installed windows after kubuntu on a fat32 partition. now i want to access the partition its saying: "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000"
[11:43] <bjwebb> _2: hmm how would i see if i have infact got multiple kernels to boot into?
[11:44] <_2> bjwebb at boot time hit [esc]    and look    or right now    grep -ve '#' /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:45] <_2> bjwebb or    ls /lib/modules
[11:45] <_2> seeing that you did specify that it was apt that installed the kernel
[11:46] <bjwebb> i thing i must have been getting mixed up or something
[11:46] <bjwebb> only one kernel
[11:46] <bjwebb> _2: the moddules things has a newer one
[11:46] <bjwebb> i don't know how new
[11:47] <bjwebb> -l :D
[11:47] <bjwebb> very new
[11:47] <_2> possably not    they have started making kernel patch packages that update the kernel without adding one.   which really sux if it breaks things
[11:47] <_2> oh late on that  ^
[11:47] <bjwebb> how do i load the older modules?
[11:48] <_2> ok if there are two kernels   you should be able to boot the older one
[11:48] <bjwebb> nah not in /boot
[11:48] <_2> ls /boot/vm*   just to see what's there
[11:48] <bjwebb> only the one afaik
[11:48] <bjwebb> yep only one
[11:49] <rdvon> where do i get the restricted codecs ?:]
[11:49] <_2> !codecs
[11:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:49] <rdvon> thanky :)
[11:49] <bjwebb> but i have two lots of modules in /lib/modules
[11:49] <_2> that's odd.
[11:49] <rdvon> what is the apt-get line?
[11:50] <_2> rdvon should be on the page   ^
[11:50] <rdvon> :\ ok.
[11:50] <bjwebb> _2: any ideas?
[11:51] <_2> bjwebb not really.     possable  sources.list error
[11:51] <bjwebb> _2: how? i only have one kernel in /boot/
[11:52] <_2> has nothing to do with that.
[11:52] <bjwebb> oh oops
[11:52] <rdvon> latest ubuntu is edgy right :>
[11:52] <_2> see   /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:52] <bjwebb> yeah, just realised
[11:52] <_2> rdvon no.  fiesty
[11:52] <rdvon> oh yeah.
[11:52] <rdvon> :)
[11:52] <bjwebb> _2: don't think it is tho, cos ive seen when it doesn't parse that
[11:53] <_2> bjwebb but i could be parsing something it can't digest
[11:53] <_2> i would look anyway
[11:53] <bjwebb> _2: i ran apt-get update
[11:53] <bjwebb> and now it works
[11:53] <_2> so it was the sources.list    just not a particular error in it..
[11:54] <_2> bjwebb >>> "could be parsing something it can't digest"   <<<  so it was
[11:54] <bjwebb> _2: hmm maybe
[11:55] <bjwebb> thanks for the help anyway
[11:55] <_2> np
[11:55] <soulrider__> does anyone knwo whatt he begginers team channel is ?
[11:55] <_2> *buntu ?
[11:55] <_2> :)
[11:56] <gener1c> whats that
[11:57] <_2> soulrider sorry ! i
[11:57] <rdvon> er... for someone reason my apt.list isn't workign :\
[11:57] <rdvon> I tried adding a line..
[11:57] <cloakable> rdvon: what did you add?
[11:57] <rdvon> than removed it because it wasnt working.
[11:57] <rdvon> deb http://b2cs.delcorp.org/debian/ edgy main
[11:58] <Almighty_Henaro> Hey guys~ How do I change resolution in KDE?
[11:58] <cloakable> rdvon: what does your list say now?
[11:58] <rdvon> wait... It must've been the extra enter I pressed..
[12:01] <emilsedgh_> Almighty_Henaro: SystemSettings->Monitor And Display
[12:01] <rdvon> E: Malformed line 43 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse) I get this error...
[12:01] <rdvon> and this is what is on line 43: deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security
[12:01] <rdvon> :\
[12:01] <Almighty_Henaro> Where is System Settings?
[12:01] <Almighty_Henaro> D:
[12:01] <stdin> Almighty_Henaro: in the KMenu
[12:01] <emilsedgh_> rdvon: copy whole file in pastebin, please
[12:01] <Almighty_Henaro> ._.
[12:02] <Almighty_Henaro> Where's the KMenu...?
[12:02] <_2> ping: unknown host http://b2cs.delcorp.org
[12:02] <emilsedgh_> !pastebin | rdvon
[12:02] <ubotu> rdvon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:02] <rdvon> http://pastebin.com/m33c8fa80
[12:02] <stdin> Almighty_Henaro: just above "Actions"
[12:02] <emilsedgh_> Almighty_Henaro: bottom, left, where the start button was in xp !
[12:02] <_2> rdvon http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-security
[12:03] <rdvon> Almighty_Henaro: if it isnt showing you made need to add it :P
[12:03] <Almighty_Henaro> Oh wait the Kicker?
[12:03] <rdvon> are you in the kmenu??
[12:03] <Almighty_Henaro> Yeah I guess
[12:03] <rdvon> Ok.
[12:03] <_2> rdvon and it needs an entry.   i.e.   main universe multiverse restricted
[12:04] <emilsedgh_> Almighty_Henaro: go to konqueror-> settings:/ -> Peripherals -> Monitor And Display
[12:04] <rdvon> Almighy_Henaro: do you need the system settings, or the settings menu?
[12:04] <Almighty_Henaro> Can't seem to find "Monitor and Display" any where.
[12:04] <rdvon> it's in system settings..
[12:04] <rdvon> right above "actions" bar.
[12:04] <rdvon> or divider
[12:04] <rdvon> or whatever you call it :P
[12:04] <Almighty_Henaro> I don't have an "Actions" bar
[12:05] <rdvon> er...
[12:05] <rdvon> do you see run command?
[12:05] <rdvon> it should be above that.
[12:05] <Almighty_Henaro> Oh that
[12:05] <Almighty_Henaro> Nope
[12:05] <VirtuoS> help me with this
[12:05] <VirtuoS> checking for rpath... yes
[12:05] <Almighty_Henaro> System Menu
[12:05] <VirtuoS> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[12:05] <VirtuoS> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[12:05] <VirtuoS> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[12:05] <rdvon> Almighty_Henaro: press alt f2, and type kcontrol
[12:05] <emilsedgh_> VirtuoS: install kdelibs-dev please
[12:06] <garfield> oh
[12:06] <garfield> hi
[12:06] <Almighty_Henaro> Okay~
[12:06] <rdvon> Almighty_Henaro: now in the search bar (under file) type panels
[12:06] <rdvon> click the results
[12:06] <Almighty_Henaro> Alright
[12:06] <rdvon> it should say panels :)
[12:06] <rdvon> now go to the menus tab
[12:07] <rdvon> you should see all the menus you can add.
[12:07] <Almighty_Henaro> Uhmmm
[12:07] <Almighty_Henaro> What about resolution...
[12:07] <rdvon> *you dont have the system settings menu in your k menu :P
[12:07] <EricL> Would downloading Gutsy potentially make setting up dual-monitor (panoramic not clone) easier?
[12:07] <Almighty_Henaro> Oh
[12:08] <EricL> Because it's a PITA on Feisty with a Dell Optiplex 720.
[12:08] <Almighty_Henaro> Well I have "Settings" and "System Menu"
[12:08] <emilsedgh_> rdvon: your problem is solved? with sources.list ?
[12:08] <rdvon> emilsedgh: I'm helping someone :>
[12:08] <Almighty_Henaro> Niether of wich contain Display or Monitor
[12:08] <stdin> Almighty_Henaro: under "Help"
[12:08] <rdvon> ok. than type display in the search :\
[12:08] <rdvon> I seemed to drift off your actual problem sorry :)
[12:09] <Almighty_Henaro> stdin,"Help"?
[12:10] <emilsedgh_> Almighty_Henaro: press Alt+f2 then run displayconfig in it
[12:10] <rdvon> fine. Do it the easier way :P
[12:10] <Almighty_Henaro> Says it can't be run
[12:10] <stdin> Almighty_Henaro: see this http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7602/image14kc0.png ?
[12:10] <Almighty_Henaro> "Could not run the specified command"
[12:10] <emilsedgh_> Almighty_Henaro: how did you install kubuntu?
[12:11] <rdvon> can I have someone's unchanged sources.list please.
[12:11] <Almighty_Henaro> No I installed KDE along with Ubuntu
[12:11] <rdvon> there's your problem :P
[12:11] <Almighty_Henaro> Don't see a system settings
[12:11] <Almighty_Henaro> :/
[12:11] <emilsedgh_> rdvon: delete the line 44 please, whats that 'multiverse' doing there? if you want add multiverse in the line 43
[12:11] <rdvon> er.. it was just their :)
[12:11] <Almighty_Henaro> Well how should I go about fixing the problem
[12:12] <garfield> rdvon: hey
[12:12] <stdin> rdvon: have a look in /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list or use http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic to regenerate
[12:12] <emilsedgh_> Almighty_Henaro: install kubuntu-desktop please to have a complete kubuntu system :)
[12:12] <Almighty_Henaro> Oh okay~
[12:12] <rdvon> Almighty_henaro: you could also look for the missing package...
[12:12] <_2> rdvon i told you, line 34 needs args.    i.e.  deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ fiesty-security main universe multiverse restricted
[12:13] <garfield> stdin: can u unset my banded?
[12:13] <stdin> garfield: I can't, no
[12:14] <rdvon> yay it works! thanks guys :)
[12:17] <garfield> stdin: ok so how long i have to wait to be unbaned?
[12:17] <rocco> buonasera a tutti
[12:17] <NickPresta> !it | rocco
[12:17] <ubotu> rocco: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:18] <rocco> buonasera a tutti
[12:18] <_2> and a great big howdy back at ya rocco
[12:18] <NickPresta> rocco, tipo /join #kubuntu-it
[12:19] <soulrider> !xorg
[12:19] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:20] <Tm_T> garfield: this is not a correct place to talk about bans, #ubuntu-ops thank you
[12:21] <VirtuoS> help with this now
[12:21] <VirtuoS> crystalclient.moc:133: error: 'KDecoration' has not been declared
[12:21] <VirtuoS> make[3] : *** [crystalclient.lo]  Error 1
[12:21] <VirtuoS> make[3] : Leaving directory `/home/virtuos/Desktop/crystal-1.0.5/client'
[12:21] <VirtuoS> make[2] : *** [all-recursive]  Error 1
[12:21] <NickPresta> !attitude | VirtuoS
[12:21] <ubotu> VirtuoS: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:21] <VirtuoS> make[2] : Leaving directory `/home/virtuos/Desktop/crystal-1.0.5/client'
[12:21] <VirtuoS> make[1] : *** [all-recursive]  Error 1
[12:21] <VirtuoS> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/virtuos/Desktop/crystal-1.0.5'
[12:21] <VirtuoS> make: *** [all]  Error 2
[12:21] <VirtuoS> virtuos@lokalna:~/Desktop/crystal-1.0.5$ cd ..
[12:21] <NickPresta> !pastebin | VirtuoS
[12:21] <ubotu> VirtuoS: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:23] <grul> jag blir fan sur
[12:26] <NickPresta> grul, what language?
[12:26] <BluesKaj> !se
[12:26] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[12:26] <NickPresta> oh. That works too.
[12:26] <BluesKaj> ya ya
[12:27] <BluesKaj> or is it ja ja :)
[12:27] <BluesKaj> i should know ...swedish was my native tobgue til i was 4yrsold
[12:27] <grul> NickPresta, sorry, wrong channel :p
[12:28] <hydrogen> or you could have just whois;'d!
[12:28] <BluesKaj> err tongue
[12:29] <BluesKaj> dthacker ,  I think it's just hunger :P
[12:29] <_2> maybe tac ?
[12:29] <[GuS] > guys... now in latest Tribe Dolphin is the default file browseR?
[12:30] <[GuS] > how do i change again to konqueror?
[12:30] <NickPresta> !gutsy
[12:30] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[12:30] <BluesKaj> file manager
[12:30] <[GuS] > ...
[12:30] <NickPresta> [GuS] , if no one knows in here (unlikely), check out #ubuntu+1
[12:31] <[GuS] > NickPresta: i am doing, thanks.
[12:31] <BluesKaj> tried gutsy tribe 4, dolphin was the file manager, konq was the browser
[12:31] <[GuS] > should be a more visible option to do this..
[12:32] <[GuS] > BluesKaj: not my case
[12:32] <[GuS] > justa after today updates
[12:32] <BluesKaj> ??
[12:32] <[GuS] > before TODAY, konqueror was my default file manager yet
[12:33] <_2> sudo update-alternatives x-www-broser      maybe
[12:33] <[GuS] > no, thats for web browser
[12:33] <ekrengel> whats the best jabber client for kde?
[12:33] <_2> oh you're on file man... well set that.
[12:34] <NickPresta> ekrengel, I like Pidgin/Gaim, but Konversation is neat too, I suppose
[12:34] <BluesKaj> file browser is dolphin afaik, konq is web browser
[12:34] <[GuS] > BluesKaj: again, konqueror (IN MY TRIBE 5) was the default file browser after recently updates....
[12:34] <emilsedgh_> ekrengel: maybe u wanna try Kopete.its the best and official KDE's IM client that supports jabber
[12:34] <ekrengel> yeh i have those actually
[12:35] <[GuS] > now Dolphin is, which suc** for me
[12:35] <ekrengel> i was a little confused on clientes
[12:35] <ekrengel> lol
[12:35] <NickPresta> ekrengel, sorry, Kopete, not Konversation (the latter is for IRC)
[12:35] <fester> How do I enable cookies in Konqueror?
[12:35] <ekrengel> i thought jabber was something different in itself
[12:35] <_2> fester they are by default
[12:35] <NickPresta> ekrengel, it's a protocol. Like the Oscar, MSN, etc protocols.
[12:36] <fester> _2 > not on mine.
[12:36] <emilsedgh_> fester: Tools->HTML Settings->Cookies :P
[12:36] <hydrogen> hmm
[12:36] <_2> fester in the konq menu configure
[12:36] <_2> fester they are by default. yes on all kde installations
[12:36] <emilsedgh_> fester: manage them by going to Settings->configure Konqueror
[12:36] <fester> _2> Thanks!!
[12:37] <NickPresta> split
[12:37] <BluesKaj> server bigtime splittsville here
[12:37] <NickPresta> yay
[12:37] <[GuS] > what tha hell?
[12:37] <_2> called a net split
[12:37] <[GuS] > split? sure?
[12:37] <[GuS] > i know what it is.
[12:37] <stdin> not a split
[12:38] <[GuS] > i was receiving CTCP
[12:38] <hydrogen> that wasn't a netsplit
[12:38] <ch40s> *split
[12:38] <hydrogen> that was spammers
[12:38] <[GuS] > thats not net split...
[12:38] <hydrogen> the quit message was excess flood
[12:38] <hydrogen> so you were replying to them all
[12:38] <hydrogen> too fast for the server
[12:38] <[GuS] > exactly
[12:38] <BluesKaj> solid on my server
[12:38] <hydrogen> and being flooded off
[12:38] <NickPresta> hydrogen, yeah. #kubuntu-offtopic just informed me :(
[12:38] <[GuS] > how i do disable CTCP on konversation?
[12:39] <stdin> [GuS] : just /mode [GuS]  +C
[12:39] <Nahi> hello i have kubuntu installed but i need to install windows how can i split my hdd again its only one partition
[12:39] <[GuS] > ok thanks