[00:00] <Pici> !offtopic
[00:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Guys.. keep it on topic
[00:00] <Spzatt> im trying to start ubuntu, when i get this erro message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
[00:00] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:00] <flyback> my favorite in lemmings II was the highland tribe I would pause and listen to that adlib bagpipe synth tune for hrs
[00:00] <flyback> :P
[00:00] <brobostigon> i also loved the very first prince os persia
[00:00] <brobostigon> of
[00:00] <eldkraft> Slart: yeah to orsakringskassann and such. I never got it to work in 64bit ubuntu though.. just SUSE
[00:00] <PriceChild> !offtopic | flyback brobostigon
[00:00] <ubotu> flyback brobostigon: please see above
[00:00] <Pici> This is a support channel, we have other channels for chatter.
[00:00] <dessnr> did you hear the panpipes in lev 22 in easy level of lemmings 1?
[00:00] <flyback> ok :)
[00:00] <PriceChild> dessnr, offtopic
[00:00] <Pici> dessnr: offtopic
[00:00] <Spzatt> im trying to start ubuntu, when i get this erro message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
[00:00] <dessnr> sorry :|
[00:00] <flyback> BITE MY "CANUCK"
[00:00] <flyback> there now I am really off topic :P
[00:00]  * flyback wanders off
[00:00] <brobostigon> sorry, just reminiscing
[00:01] <Jerr> quick nvidia question: Twinview = DualView in windows?
[00:01] <Phusion> :)
[00:01] <Phusion> twinview = two monitors one card
[00:01] <Slart> eldkraft: oh.. currently I'm using firefox32  when I have to do that stuff.. it's only a couple of times per year.. deklarationsdags =)
[00:01] <Spzatt> im trying to start ubuntu, when i get this error message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
[00:01] <exploid> Anyone got dual monitor working easyly? I
[00:01] <brobostigon> good night all
[00:01] <Jerr> I might after this
[00:01] <savageone> exploid: nope but I'd like to
[00:01] <exploid> I'm trying to make it work on my laptop but doesn't want to
[00:01] <Spzatt> im trying to start ubuntu, when i get this error message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
[00:02] <timewriter> !tvtuner
[00:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvtuner - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:02] <MacTheMad> slart: 2 lines: line 1 reads: <IP_ADDRESS>     *     <IP_ADDRESS>     U     0     0     0   eth0 and line 2 reads: default     <IP_ADDRESS>     <IP_ADDRESS>     UG     100     0     0     eth0
[00:02] <Spzatt> im trying to start ubuntu, when i get this error message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
[00:02] <Spzatt> jesus answer me then
[00:02] <eldkraft> Slart: haha yeah and I use it for pappadagar
[00:03] <musikgoat> MacTheMad: do you have problem with dhcp as well?
[00:03] <Slart> MacTheMad: yes.. that looks right to me.. gateway is <IP_ADDRESS>.. which you can't ping.. odd
[00:03] <Jerr> well I screwed that one up, whats the command again to reset my x.conf (sorry it's been a while...)
[00:03] <Spzatt> im trying to start ubuntu, when i get this error message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
[00:03] <tsukasa_> question guys - im sshing to this server on port 443 and on my local machine it lags like a b----- because of services listening on that port - so how can i either turn on or off port exclusitivity for ssh or - im thinking messing with natd.conf... any ideas? am i headed the right way?
[00:04] <timewriter> anyone knows how to install Tv tuner on feisty ?
[00:04] <Lyco> has anyone ever seen a bootscreen like this one after installing Gutsy? http://picasaweb.google.com/lycoloco/RandomJunk/photo?authkey=IDvsa9PplsM#5146209518028959650
[00:04] <Slart> MacTheMad: would you try another thing,please. "sudo iptables -L" .. it should just be 3 lines.. all with "policy ACCEPT"
[00:04] <Spzatt> im trying to start ubuntu, when i get this error message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
[00:04] <Jerr> timewriter: I think I saw that on the community support
[00:05] <Spzatt> im trying to start ubuntu, when i get this error message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
[00:05] <MacTheMad> on that machine with ubuntu yes... it's turned on in the router but on my windows installation I hard coded it to 11 so I would always pull down the same ip I have set for p2p
[00:05] <Slart> eldkraft: hehe... have you tried the other variants available? there is one from posten.. one from nordbanken, I think..
[00:05] <musikgoat> Lyco: thats the windows bootloader
[00:05] <Lyco> it is?
[00:05] <timewriter> i have Leadtek Tv2000 Xp Global
[00:05] <Lyco> hmm... so how do I get grub to show up instead of that, musikgoat?
[00:05] <Spzatt> guys!?
[00:05] <Lyco> that's what showed up after a fresh install of gutsy
[00:05] <grout> is there an app that can make iso images from cdrom?
[00:05] <musikgoat> sounds like you might not have installed gutsy to the first system disk?
[00:05] <musikgoat> is it on a second disk?
[00:05] <Lyco> nope, you're right. I didn't
[00:05] <Lyco> yup
[00:05] <Spzatt> im trying to start ubuntu, when i get this error message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
[00:06] <dessnr> grout: k3b is a good one for that
[00:06] <grout> thanks
[00:06] <Lyco> I've got 2 SATA drives with OSes on them. The first has XP, teh second has Ubuntu
[00:06] <musikgoat> lyco, go into bios and set your second disk to be the first disk boot
[00:06] <timewriter> grout , there is a command for that i guess
[00:06] <MacTheMad> slart: yes 3 entries all with policy accept
[00:06] <Garath531> Hello everyone, I have a problem. I am trying to install Apache 2.2.6 on a remote computer (without internet access) running Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn. However, when ever I try to configure it using this command (in the terminal) "./configure --enable-module=so" , I get this error message "c compiler cannot create executables" Can anyone help me?
[00:06] <musikgoat> there should be some boot menu to do that Lyco
[00:06] <Lyco> so should I put grub on HD1 when I'm installing the bootloader, musikgoat?
[00:06] <Slart> Spzatt: if you leave it for a while, doesn't it continue?
[00:06] <tsukasa_> question guys - im sshing to this server on port 443 and on my local machine it lags like a b----- because of services listening on that port - so how can i either turn on or off port exclusitivity for ssh or - im thinking messing with natd.conf... any ideas? am i headed the right way?
[00:06] <Spzatt> Slart : no
[00:06] <musikgoat> lyco, that will do it too
[00:06] <Lyco> yeah, I know how to get to that, so that's not a problem, musikgoat. I appreciate your help  :)
[00:07] <musikgoat> sure thing
[00:07] <Jerr> oh man, I forgot now how to start up X again
[00:07] <snkmad> anyone else had problems booting ubuntu after latest kernel header update?
[00:07] <Slart> MacTheMad: and the error when you tried ping <IP_ADDRESS> was "network unreachable"?
[00:07] <Spzatt> What can i do?
[00:08] <Spzatt> Can i bring the destkop up in recovery mode? (use the command?)
[00:08] <Jerr> ubotu: !help > Jerr
[00:08] <MacTheMad> slart: all 4 lines "destination host unreachable"
[00:08] <rafael_> good evening can somebody, please, direct me to an easy way to make the 64 bit Ubuntu sun-java work.
[00:08] <Slart> Spzatt: hmm.. well.. mda is a raid-device I think.. and that message indicates that dms for some reason didn't work out (dma makes hard drive transfers faster, kind of).. it shouldn't keep you from booting though.. it should continue
[00:08] <shadowblade> Don't know if people here can help with this...When I try to boot into my vista partition from grub, my computer just restarts and comes back to grub. Anyone have any ideas?
[00:09] <Spzatt> Ok, ill restart and let it go then.
[00:09] <musikgoat> mdadm is slart, i think his is dma
[00:09] <musikgoat> direct memory access?
[00:09] <timewriter> it seems like i need the driver for cx8800
[00:09] <Slart> musikgoat: usually there's a device name first in that error.. and I think mda, mdb, mdc etc are raid-devices..
[00:09] <nickrud> shadowblade, sudo fdisk -l , does that show your partitions? (just stab in the dark)
[00:09] <musikgoat> your right
[00:10] <shadowblade> nickrud: yep, theyre all there
[00:10] <musikgoat> ahh, didn't see the first part
[00:10] <musikgoat> heh
[00:10] <shadowblade> nickrud: i can see the partition just fine from here (ubuntu)
[00:10] <Slart> musikgoat: or perhaps that was md0, md1.. I don't really remember
[00:11] <nickrud> shadowblade, ok, my partition table got trashed by an install once, had to reinstall vista. Thats good for you. Is your vista on partition 1?
[00:11] <dessnr> nickrud: is there no way that you can rebuild the grub boot block?
[00:11] <shadowblade> nickrud: sda3
[00:11] <Slart> MacTheMad: do you get any output if you run "arp"?
[00:12] <Garath531> Hello everyone, I have a problem. I am trying to install Apache 2.2.6 on a remote computer (without internet access) running Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn. However, when ever I try to configure it using this command (in the terminal) "./configure --enable-module=so" , I get this error message "c compiler cannot create executables" Can anyone help me?
[00:12] <MacTheMad> slart: should I try a different ip from the one coded on the windows install?
[00:12] <nickrud> shadowblade, hm, a sec
[00:12] <timewriter> lol i guess the module is already loaded
[00:12] <Slart> MacTheMad: you dualboot with windows on this machine?
[00:12] <Urim> hi guys.. installing ubuntu7.10 for the first time with winxp.. have some trouble booting winxp.. anyone willing to offer help.. would appreciate it a lot
[00:13] <MacTheMad> not on this machine but on that one yes
[00:13] <timewriter> night .
[00:13] <nickrud> shadowblade, sorry, I thought I had some down time at work. brb
[00:13] <shadowblade> nickrud: np
[00:13] <mwilsonemt> I have a volume problem on a Toshiba lap top, anyone able to help trouble shoot?
[00:13] <Slart> MacTheMad: well.. might as well try another ip.. can't do any harm
[00:13] <MacTheMad> slart: not on this machine but on the one having trouble yes
[00:13] <musikgoat> mwilsonemt: whats your issue?
[00:14] <mwilsonemt> Musikgoat, I have extreamly low volume.  Already checked my music player, ALSA mixer and the laptop volume controle
[00:14] <musikgoat> mwilsonemt: i have the same problem, you have to modify the hda driver... let me find the commands again
[00:15] <mwilsonemt> Thanks
[00:15] <MacRafy> Do somebody know a website with a complete how to for sun java 6 64bit
[00:15] <wols> Urim: what problems?
[00:15] <Urim> hi wols :D
[00:16] <Slart> MacTheMad: you can try this too.. "ping -I eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>" ... just to be sure it picks the right interface for the traffic
[00:16] <nickrud> shadowblade, while I'm finishing here, could you put your /boot/grub/menu.lst on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[00:16] <Garath531> Hello everyone, I have a problem. I am trying to install Apache 2.2.6 on a remote computer (without internet access) running Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn. However, when ever I try to configure it using this command (in the terminal) "./configure --enable-module=so" , I get this error message "c compiler cannot create executables" Can anyone help me?
[00:16] <ryancr> is anyone using atl1 network driver?? I am having a heck of a probem
[00:16] <ryancr> problem*
[00:17] <wols> Garath531: a) why not use the ubuntu apache2  b) your need build-essential
[00:17] <wols> !anyone | ryancr
[00:17] <ubotu> ryancr: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[00:17] <Garath531> How do I get the ubuntu apache2 ?
[00:17] <wols> Garath531: by installing it via apt or another package management tool
[00:17] <musikgoat> mwilsonemt: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=314383    follow the instructions for the toshiba satellite
[00:17] <nickrud> !info apache2 feisty
[00:18] <ubotu> apache2: Next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.3-3.2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 37 kB, installed size 84 kB
[00:18] <l21logan99> hello
[00:18] <musikgoat> mwilsonemt: except for me, only model=auto worked, not model=3stack
[00:18] <l21logan99> i need help with getting wireless working on my imac in ubuntu gutsy
[00:18] <wols> Urim: do you have a problem or not?
[00:18] <mwilsonemt> musikgoat, thanks again
[00:18] <Garath531> !info apache2 Feisty
[00:18] <ubotu> apache2: Next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.3-3.2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 37 kB, installed size 84 kB
[00:18] <ryancr> I just got a new asus motherboard that has gigabit network on it that uses the atl1 driver, I am getting an ip etc, but cannot get 'out' of the computer, cannot ping anything, any ideas?
[00:19] <jacob_> how can i scan the area for access points and connect to them in the terminal?
[00:19] <wols> rafael_:pastebinthe output of sudo ifconfig -a, route and cat /etc/resolv.conf to a pastebin
[00:19] <Garath531> Where can I get ubuntu apache2?
[00:19] <musikgoat> oh and mwilsonemt  you may just need the following line, this is what worked for me:  options snd-hda-intel model=auto
[00:19] <wols> jacob_: install wireless tools. iwlist for example
[00:20] <Garath531> Does it come with the live CD?
[00:20] <MacTheMad> slart: nope didn't help only how do I get it to stop?
[00:20] <Slart> MacTheMad: ctrl+c
[00:20] <wols> Garath531: from your ubuntu repostiroy.
[00:20] <l21logan99>  need help with getting wireless working on my imac in ubuntu gutsy
[00:20] <l21logan99> i need the driver
[00:20] <Slart> MacTheMad: just have to ask this.. the network cable is connected, right? little lights blinking?
[00:20] <wols> !wireless l21logan99
[00:20] <nickrud> dessnr, yes there is, use the instructions from the 'after installing windows' section in the next factoid
[00:20] <nickrud> !grub | dessnr
[00:20] <wols> !wireless | l21logan99
[00:20] <ubotu> dessnr: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[00:20] <ubotu> l21logan99: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:20] <wols> l21logan99: what chip?
[00:21] <Lyco> is there any way to check and see which drive is which as far as grub would be concerned when I'm in the live cd? I wanna make sure I'm putting this bootloader in the right place this time
[00:21] <shadowblade> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49088/
[00:21] <l21logan99> 	Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[00:21] <wols> l21logan99: grub has nothing to do with drivers or the live cd
[00:21] <musikgoat> Lyco: you can look for the ntfs partition
[00:21] <dessnr> !grub dessnr
[00:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grub dessnr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:21] <Garath531> !repository
[00:21] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[00:21] <dessnr> !grub | dessnr
[00:21] <Garath531> !info repository
[00:21] <wols> !msg the bot
[00:21] <ubotu> Package repository does not exist in gutsy
[00:21] <wols> !msgthebot
[00:21] <Lyco> musikgoat: it's mounted, so what do I do to find out which one the current one that i'm on is?
[00:21] <dessnr> !grub
[00:22] <MacTheMad> slart: well it tried 87 times... all destination host unreachable... I'm gonna take a few minutes & type out those files into pastebin & contact u shortly w/ the url
[00:22] <wols> Garath531: please don't abuse the bot
[00:22] <Lyco> hey ConstyXIV, long time no see
[00:22] <dessnr> hmm, what am i doing wrong?
[00:22] <musikgoat> Lyco: look at gparted
[00:22] <l21logan99> any ideas?
[00:22] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[00:22] <Bjornalf> anyone know how to move the datastore for a mysql database? mine filled up my root partition and now won't start
[00:22] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[00:22] <wols> l21logan99: I asked you something
[00:22] <l21logan99> the chipset is 	Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[00:22] <dessnr> nickrud: thanks mate.
[00:22] <musikgoat> LycoLoco: it will be whichever like /dev/sda that has ntfs on it that is the primary disk
[00:22] <wols> l21logan99: bcm43xx
[00:23] <Spzatt> Slart
[00:23] <Spzatt> It did not continue
[00:23] <wols> !bcm43xx | l21logan99
[00:23] <ubotu> l21logan99: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[00:23] <LycoLoco> musikgoat: so do I wanna install the bootloader (in this case GRUB) on the same drive that XP is on or that I'm going to be installing Ubuntu on?
[00:23] <jacob_> bcm43xx has to be blacklisted and install the driver with ndiswrapper
[00:23] <jacob_> it works on my laptop
[00:23] <wols> jacob_: you are mistaken
[00:23] <musikgoat> LycoLoco: in your case, on the XP disk
[00:23] <Slart> MacTheMad: I'm not sure it will change anything.. to me it looks like your settings are correct.. can't think of anything else that might be disturbing it.. well.. there's one thing.. I dualbooted, switched network cables and stuff.. and all of a sudden everything stopped working.. turned out I had confused the switch so much it just gave up.. had to power-cycle the switch.. then it worked
[00:23] <musikgoat> as that is primary
[00:23] <Spzatt> Slart : it didnt continyue
[00:23] <Urim> hi wols, thank you for replying.. really appreciate offering your help.. i am installing ubuntu 7.10 on a toshiba satellite... i want to double boot it with winxp.. first i reformated my winxp.. created on partition.. used the default winxp home edition that comes with my toshiba laptop.. i downloaded Ubuntu 7.10.. i burned the CD.. i booted from CD.. checked it first.. no errors.. so i started installing.. i used the typical settings.. all was working fine..
[00:23] <jacob_> wols, i'm using it right now
[00:23] <l21logan99> thank you
[00:23] <Spzatt> Slart : it didnt continue *
[00:24] <wols> !wfm | jacob_
[00:24] <ubotu> jacob_: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[00:24] <Slart> Spzatt: ok.. what was the error-message again?
[00:24] <LycoLoco> ooh, actually, it looks like I lied. both XP and Ubuntu are going on SDB, which is third in line on the dropdown list in gparted, so I'm guessing I wanna install it on HD2?
[00:24] <Spzatt> dma: timeout waiting for MDA     (or mda timout waiting for dma)
[00:24] <jacob_> wols: on some laptops the driver is different so i can work on some but on others it wont
[00:24] <testuser> hi I do before 7.4 it is good work  after I download 7.10 and install but it is connect or update wizard or add-remove tools not connect work :(
[00:24] <MacTheMad> slart: well I haven't tried rebooting the router so let us see
[00:25] <wols> jacob_: I know, but do YOU know which one l21logan99 has?
[00:25] <jacob_> i have the files
[00:25] <jacob_> i can send it to him
[00:25] <Invert314> ubuntu won't boot
[00:25] <Invert314> for error mesage at this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=644810
[00:25] <Slart> Spzatt: can you find out which one it was?
[00:25] <Bjornalf> better qiuestion how do i find what files are eating up 100+ gigs of space?
[00:25] <musikgoat> Bjornalf: disk usage analyzer?
[00:26] <jacob_> or her
[00:26] <musikgoat> applications -> accessories -> DUA
[00:26] <Bjornalf> oh.. forgot to mention running ubuntu server so no GUI
[00:26] <LycoLoco> musikgoat: ooh, actually, it looks like I lied. both XP and Ubuntu are going on SDB, which is third in line on the dropdown list in gparted, so I'm guessing I wanna install it on HD2?
[00:26] <jacob_> to black list it go to the terminal and type gksu gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[00:26] <jacob_> at the end of the file add a new line and put blacklist bcm43xx
[00:27] <Johnson_> anyone here have the 200 dollar everex?
[00:27] <musikgoat> LycoLoco: maybe... XP could have its bootloader on SDA, but you won't find out till you try
[00:27] <jacob_> before doing that you need the files
[00:27] <Usiu> Hi
[00:27] <Spzatt> uh i gotta get back then
[00:27] <Spzatt> and restart
[00:27] <musikgoat> LycoLoco: didn't you install the grub bootloader on the ubuntu disk already?
[00:27] <Spzatt> it was DMA
[00:27] <wols> XP can boot from sdb IF it was installed that way
[00:27] <Usiu> how to make such a nice bottom Mac like menu bar /
[00:27] <jacob_> after blacklisting the driver, restart the computer
[00:27] <Usiu> under gnome
[00:27] <Spzatt> slart : hda : timeout waiting for DMA
[00:27] <Zaerath> I am getting the error on boot:
[00:27] <Zaerath> siocsifaddr: no such device
[00:27] <Zaerath> Anyone have any solutions?
[00:27] <LycoLoco> musikgoat: I'm sitting in the LiveCD now trying to make sure that I got everything set up right this time.
[00:27] <nickrud> shadowblade, sorry, still here
[00:28] <wols> Zaerath: sudo ifconfig -a
[00:28] <jshriver> in dosbox how can you eject or remount another floppy image?
[00:28] <shadowblade> nickrud: np
[00:28] <LycoLoco> I was thinking it was Grub that was having issues, so I formatted the partition and am starting from scratch this time
[00:28] <MacTheMad> slart: didn't work however I just ran ifconfig only forgot to type eth0 after and below the entry for eth0 theres another entry for lo... could that be the problem?
[00:28] <musikgoat> ok LycoLoco when you installed the first time, did you follow the general instructions?
[00:28] <Zaerath> wols: That only displays lo, and ifconfig eth0 tells me the device cannot be found.
[00:28] <Bjornalf> musikgoat: so is there a CLI way to find large files?
[00:28] <Usiu> ?
[00:28] <Slart> Spzatt: ah.. googling
[00:28] <musikgoat> LycoLoco: ohh
[00:28] <Usiu> Where I can find nice shiny bottom icon bar ?
[00:28] <wols> Zaerath: then theris no driver loaded for your ethernet
[00:28] <Usiu> for gnome
[00:28] <Usiu> ?
[00:28] <musikgoat> Bjornalf: du
[00:28] <Slart> MacTheMad: nope.. that's just localhost.. your loopback interface.. just goes back to yourself
[00:28] <Urim> wols : xp won't boot if it was installed from toshiba-ms CD ? .. any trick or configuration i should do.. or no matter how hard i try .. it wouldn't work.. like some kind of limitation from MS
[00:28] <musikgoat> Bjornalf: du will help you show disk usage
[00:28] <Zaerath> wols: I figured that much; I just ran dist-upgrade today, and that was when it stopped working. Solutions?
[00:29] <shadowblade> nickrud: only a couple thing i still use windows for
[00:29] <Bjornalf> musikgoat: ahh ty i just couldn't remember that one
[00:29] <wols> Urim: pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:29] <musikgoat> Bjornalf: yw
[00:29] <jacob_> who is having problems with their bcm43xx wireless driver?
[00:29] <wols> Zaerath: what NIC do you have?
[00:29] <spartacus> Hi. Has anyone managed to downgrade Gutsy to Xorg 7.1?
[00:29] <wols> spartacus: downgrades are not supported. why'd you want to do that?
[00:29] <Zaerath> wols: Some OnBoard crap, I'm unsure, this is just my server computer and the NIC worked before I did a dist upgrade (btw I'm running a 2.4 kernel).
[00:30] <wols> Zaerath: what version of ubuntu is this?
[00:30] <Spzatt> Slart any answer yet?
[00:30] <Slart> Spzatt: some people report success after disabling dma
[00:30] <Zaerath> wols: Debian, but the same arch, and Debain's support sucks.
[00:30] <Slart> Spzatt: but that seems like a rough solution..
[00:30] <Zaerath> wols: Every fix I have done for Ubuntu works great in Debian. ^_^
[00:30] <wols> Zaerath: you suck for asking in #ubuntu. ask in #debian. good day
[00:30] <testuser> how to fıx 7.10 connect and upgrade problems
[00:31] <Spzatt> Slart : How do i disable dma in recovery mode?
[00:31] <Usiu> ??????????????????
[00:31] <Usiu> Where I can find icon bar for gnome
[00:31] <spartacus> wols: because I've got ATI graphics, and the better tested FireGL release only supports up to Xorg 7.1
[00:31] <Usiu> Like the bottom one on this pictures http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/OneBaaadMuthaShutYoMouth?content=71800
[00:31] <Usiu> any help?
[00:31] <wols> spartacus: as I said, not supported
[00:31] <theLichKing> hi
[00:32] <MacRafy> Need some help with the flash plugin in my 7.10 64bit Ubuntu. It don´t work in Firefox.
[00:32] <Slart> Spzatt: try using the boot option "ide=nodma"
[00:32] <wols> spartacus: and pretty useless too since all gutsy packages would depend on the newer Xorg packages
[00:32] <spartacus> darn
[00:32] <wols> MacRafy: there is no 64bit flash plugin
[00:32] <musikgoat> Usiu: isn't that a theme?  system -> preferences -> themes
[00:32] <wols> spartacus: what ati card is it?
[00:32] <Slart> Spzatt: when you boot.. press 'e' and add that to one of the lines there.. then boot using that
[00:32] <theLichKing> i installed the flashplayer-nonfree package but firefox still tells me that i need to install the flashplayer plugin... is installing that package enough or is there something else i gotta do?
[00:33] <Spzatt> slart : How do i do that?
[00:33] <musikgoat> sorry Usiu appearances
[00:33] <Usiu> musikgoat, I am interested what application serves such a gnome-panel
[00:33] <mutable> hello, i cannot set IFS, if i do --- $ export IFS="i" --- and then --- $ echo $IFS --- it doesn't print "i", what's the problem?
[00:33] <Spzatt> slart : add it to startup command?
[00:33] <Usiu> musikgoat, bottom pabel
[00:33] <nickrud> shadowblade, back for real now. Your grub looks good, has vista booted before?
[00:33] <wols> !flasissue | theLichKing
[00:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flasissue - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:33] <wols> !flashissue | theLichKing
[00:33] <Usiu> musikgoat, its not a normal gnome panel
[00:33] <ubotu> theLichKing: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads.
[00:33] <Slart> MacTheMad: sorry.. I can't think of any more reasons why you wouldn't be able to ping your gateway.. ask the channel again.. perhaps they have some more ideas to try
[00:33] <theLichKing> oh
[00:33] <FlareMage> hi i'm a limited vision ubuntu user and i'm looking for a good mud client that is good with larger text sizes and doesn't spread off of the screen
[00:33] <musikgoat> Usiu: oh are you talking about the bottom part of the last picture?
[00:33] <Urim> wols:
[00:33] <Urim> title           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
[00:33] <Urim> root            (hd0,1)
[00:33] <Urim> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=a2294174-35c6-4f18-b062-f606424f0b5e ro quiet splash
[00:33] <Urim> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[00:33] <Urim> quiet
[00:33] <FlareMage> terminal clients are ok
[00:33] <Urim> title           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode)
[00:33] <Urim> root            (hd0,1)
[00:33] <Urim> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=a2294174-35c6-4f18-b062-f606424f0b5e ro single
[00:34] <Urim> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[00:34] <Usiu> musikgoat, yeeees
[00:34] <musikgoat> Usiu: that is AWN avant-window-navigator
[00:34] <Usiu> musikgoat, thanks! :)
[00:34] <musikgoat> Usiu: that is modified a bit, but its nice
[00:34] <wols> Urim: I told you p PASTEBIN, not to spam the channel!
[00:34] <Slart> Spzatt: when you get to grub.. ie where you select which kernel to run.. there are usually the current one and the one with "recovery mode".. press e when the top one is selected
[00:34] <wols> !paste | Urim
[00:34] <ubotu> Urim: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:34] <musikgoat> it requires compositing effects usiu
[00:34] <Spzatt> Ok.
[00:34] <theLichKing> wols: you think it will work if i install it through the firefox plugin manager?
[00:34] <Spzatt> Then add what you said?
[00:34] <Usiu> musikgoat, I use debian
[00:34] <shadowblade> nickrud: yea
[00:35] <Spzatt> The top one = The normal or the recovery one?
[00:35] <Usiu> musikgoat, and I didnt know how is this thing called :)
[00:35] <Usiu> musikgoat, thanks
[00:35] <Slart> Spzatt: here's a thread about it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9988
[00:35] <spartacus> wols: X1400
[00:35] <wols> MacRafy: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[00:35] <musikgoat> Usiu: as long as you install compiz or beryl, and that works, awn should work
[00:35] <Slart> Spzatt: the normal one
[00:35] <musikgoat> cool
[00:35] <Spzatt> Press E, then add what you said?
[00:35] <Usiu> musikgoat, well I have working compiz-fusion
[00:35] <nickrud> shadowblade, then I'm clueless, it's usually a problem with windows not being on the first partition (I never install it otherwise). Sorry
[00:35] <Slart> Spzatt: yes
[00:35] <Spzatt> Ok, will do.
[00:35] <testuser> ???? hey ubuntu 7.10 not install new programs add/remove tools how to fix?
[00:35] <musikgoat> Usiu: have fun then
[00:35] <wols> MacTheMad: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[00:35] <Usiu> musikgoat, thanks
[00:36] <musikgoat> wols: he cannot, he has no internet access
[00:36] <musikgoat> lol
[00:36] <shadowblade> nickrud: can i just like rename and rearrange the partitions so vista is on sda1
[00:36] <Slart> Spzatt: not at the top.. but where it says "nosplash" or "vga=XXX" or..whatever options there are
[00:36] <wols> musikgoat: either he does or noe one can help. endo of story
[00:36] <Urim> sorryyyy :S
[00:36] <shadowblade> nickrud: in gparted
[00:36] <wols> musikgoat: and there are ways. e.g. a usb stick
[00:36] <musikgoat> true
[00:36] <testuser> I do gedit modprobe.d vpi6 off firefox connect ok but system not normal runing
[00:36] <nickrud> shadowblade, not to my knowledge, no. Slart seems to know editing grub, maybe when he's done he can take a look
[00:36] <FlareMage> please pm me if anyone knows of a good mud client for ubuntu as i mentioned i'm limited vision and can't keep up with the chat room
[00:36] <shadowblade> nickrud: ok
[00:37] <Slart> gaah.. I don't hang out with grub.. stop making accusations =)
[00:37] <shadowblade> nickrud: thanks for trying
[00:37] <nickrud> *seems, I always leave myself a cranny to sqeeze out ouf :)
[00:37] <wols> !tr´| testuser
[00:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tr´ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:37] <wols> !tr | testuser
[00:37] <ubotu> testuser: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[00:38] <wols> shadowblade: if you do this the vista bootloader will be unhappy to say the least
[00:38] <jac1> why my laptop T43 always beep when it started, how I can stop it?
[00:38] <shadowblade> wols: .... will it work?
[00:38] <wols> shadowblade: I just told you. read
[00:39] <wols> jac1: beeping when exactly? beeping before grub menu shows?
[00:39] <shadowblade> wols: so what is it that will make it unhappy
[00:40] <wols> shadowblade: moving a partition so it changes device nodes
[00:40] <Slart> shadowblade: I think you can do some switching around to fool the windows loader, using grub
[00:40] <wols> possibly even move it on disk
[00:40] <wols> Slart: you can but it's bad. usually you don't need to
[00:40] <h-town> hi, what's the easiest and most painfree way to erase my vista partition so that i can devote my computer to ubuntu?
[00:40] <musikgoat> format
[00:40] <h-town> i have a dual vista and ubuntu going on
[00:40] <fsckr> does anyone know of another media application for linux other than mythtv?  I thought there was one in production but for the life of me can't remember the name
[00:40] <finchx6> format
[00:40] <wols> h-town: format the partitione xt3
[00:40] <shadowblade> wols: how exactly do i do it, i've never seen anything to actually change the number
[00:40] <Slart> wols: no.. it's more of a last resort.. I had to do it because I moved my hard drives around.. was the only way to make it work
[00:41] <musikgoat> finchx6: beat ya :-P
[00:41] <finchx6> lol
[00:41] <young> beep when the system boot was about to finished, more exactly is the process bar was at the end.
[00:41] <Fezzler> Update Manager shows 6 or so Samba-related files ready for updating, but clicking install does nothing.  Is there another way to update these files?
[00:41] <wols> shadowblade: tell me your problem again please
[00:41] <l21logan99> I need help again
[00:41] <Slart> shadowblade: what do you want to do?
[00:41] <h-town> format my vista partition, how do i absorb my two partitions together?
[00:41] <Slart> h-town: are there data on either of them?
[00:41] <warriorforgod> Has anybody successfully setup vnc-java and tight vnc to remote into a machine using a web browser in 64bit desktop?
[00:41] <h-town> is there a way with keeping all my ubuntu files?
[00:41] <h-town> yea
[00:41] <tiagoboldt> need _HELP_: I've got a Toshiba L40 not showing my wlan device. It's internally usb connected(appears in lsusb), I've tried the normal ndiswrapper approaches but it's not working :\\
[00:41] <wols> h-town: boot from a live cd after you deleted te vista partition. then use gparted to resize your ubuntu one
[00:42] <finchx6> h: download a tool like the Ultimate Boot CD... it will let you format both of them and then merge them
[00:42] <shadowblade> wols: vista just doesnt load from grub...i arrow down to it, hit enter, get the cursor flashing at the top right of the screen for about 3 secs, and my computer restarts
[00:42] <wols> tiagoboldt: what chip?
[00:42] <l21logan99> im trying to install wireless firmware using the info  at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy but i go to restricted drivers and it says no restricted drivers needed
[00:42] <wols> shadowblade: ask a windows channel
[00:42] <h-town> ah, so i can't get away with not formating my ubuntu partition then huh
[00:42] <tiagoboldt> wols, not sure :| lsusb: Bus 006 Device 002: ID 0bda:8197 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
[00:42] <rencore_> how can i view the widgets in gnome
[00:42] <wols> h-town: yes. if you have currently ubuntu installed
[00:42] <finchx6> you CAN, but its not the easiest way, like you requested.. heh
[00:43] <noelferreira> how can i export all my messages from all accounts of mozila-thunderbird from one computer to other computer?
[00:43] <musikgoat> h-town: i would backup everything before you attempt any resizing
[00:43] <Slart> shadowblade: I had to do something like this to make my xp partition boot properly "map             (hd0) (hd1)    ,  map             (hd1) (hd0)".. look it up in the grub manual
[00:43] <rencore_> im theming and wanna see all the widgets
[00:43] <h-town> it's a lot to back up :(
[00:43] <musikgoat> rencore_: i think you find them in a pixmaps folder
[00:43] <musikgoat> i cant remember where though
[00:44] <h-town> i figured i'd have to back everything up
[00:44] <rencore_> no there is a program but i forgot the name
[00:44] <musikgoat> h-town: just your home dir should be important
[00:44] <rencore_> and it has the buttons and sliders
[00:44] <finchx6> back it up or lose it, man..  unfortunately, those are your options...  yeah, they've got "non-destructive" programs for all of this, but honestly, I still don't trust them
[00:44] <rencore_> and i can see everything
[00:44] <musikgoat> oh sorry rencore_ i know not what you speak of
[00:44] <h-town> yea but i got like 60 gigs of stuff going on.. i was hoping i could take a short cut
[00:44] <delfi> hi everybody, i have installed ubuntustudio with gnome on my pc, and after some configuration, i've found that sometimes gnome gives me an error on startup like "cannot start gnome settings daemon". is this a common problm? what can i do?
[00:44] <wols> noelferreira: ls -l ~/.*  there will be a folder "mozilla" or "thunderbird or such
[00:44] <musikgoat> h-town: not reliably
[00:45] <l21logan99> m trying to install wireless firmware using the info  at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy but i go to restricted drivers and it says no restricted drivers needed
[00:45] <noelferreira> wols, i just need to copy that folder ?
[00:45] <h-town> i see, thanks
[00:45] <finchx6> H: I lost 95gb of mp3s when switching over my older desktop machine..  lol
[00:46] <h-town> ouch
[00:46] <finchx6> yeah, luckily I'd backed them up on my newer desktop.
[00:46] <wols> l21logan99:it isn't needed, since it's already in the kernel that driver. you only need the broadcom firmware extracter from the windows driver
[00:46] <ronnie> finchx6: just format it@@
[00:46] <l21logan99> how do i do that?
[00:46] <Urim> Sorry Wols :$:$:$:$:$ is that the info u needed http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49092/
[00:46] <finchx6> ronnie: huh?? I'm not the one asking what to do, I was trying to help h-town
[00:46] <mutable> hello, i cannot set IFS, if i do --- $ export IFS="i" --- and then --- $ echo $IFS --- it doesn't print "i", what's the problem?
[00:47] <musikgoat> hehe
[00:47] <ronnie> @@..
[00:47] <h-town> do i have to merge the drives.. couldn't i just format my vista partition and use it as a seperate partition like a storage closet?
[00:47] <musikgoat> yes h-town that would be fine
[00:47] <finchx6> yeah... just make sure its a linux file system and mount it
[00:47] <drumline> I have a server that has services that go down for 20 minutes periodically and I need to know of a way to monitor it.  What's the best way to monitor things like qmail, CPU, memory, etc?
[00:47] <wols> Urim: what does windows say?
[00:48] <wols> Urim: cause it looks alright if your windows is on sda1
[00:48] <askand> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html New atidriver released!!!
[00:48] <spartacus> askand, don't do it man
[00:48] <h-town> so execpt for formating it, is there anything i have to do to the partition to use it as storage, like some linux file structure magic or something
[00:48] <wols> askand: irrelevant and OT
[00:48] <pauliukas> drumline: SNMP using Cacti or something
[00:48] <askand> spartacus: oh why?
[00:48] <l21logan99> wols: how do i do what you suggest
[00:48] <wols> l21logan99: by useing the fwcutter
[00:48] <finchx6> h-town, it would be more stable and easier to access
[00:48] <drumline> pauliukas: sweet.  Cacti is a good one eh?   Is MRTG the same thing as Cacti?
[00:48] <spartacus> askand, because i just installed it :-( read the release notes...
[00:48] <finchx6> as opposed to leaving it NTFS
[00:48] <musikgoat> h-town gparted -> delete partition, and create new linux partition
[00:48] <l21logan99> wols: i installed it, how do i use it?
[00:49] <Torchwood> a (temporary we hope) fix for flashplayer-nonfree. you can download the fp9 archive from adobe and extract the last (9.0.48) version. it's a bit of a big archive, but that's adobe for you. http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/installers/archive/fp9_archive.zip
[00:49] <h-town> oh so gparted will do everything, sweet
[00:49] <Slart> drumline: I think there applications that monitor and send mail etc when something happens
[00:49] <musikgoat> h-town: yes
[00:49] <pauliukas> drumline: Pretty much, except Cacti looks nicer, is easily customizable and is easier to use.
[00:49] <h-town> can i do that from ubuntu or do i have to use my gparted cd and reboot
[00:49]  * Slart uses cacti
[00:49] <askand> spartacus: "no longer supports XFree86 4.3 or Linux Kernel 2.4" :O
[00:49] <pauliukas> But I think MRTG is more for doing it locally...
[00:49] <wols> by running it against the windows drivers for you card to extract the firmware. the wiki gave you the way to do it
[00:49] <musikgoat> h-town: you can do it in ubuntu
[00:49] <h-town> right on, thanks for your help
[00:49] <musikgoat> yw
[00:50] <spartacus> askand: "Connecting a display device that supports 1680x1050 to a system running Linux may result in a maximum display resolution of 1280x1024 only being available"
[00:50]  * spartacus is posting from 1280x1024 right now
[00:50] <MacTheMad> slart: still trying 2 solve problem on my own... checking settings says my interrupt for eth0 is 16... does ubuntu support interrupts that high?
[00:50] <Slart> MacTheMad: yes, I think it does
[00:50] <askand> spartacus:  oh ok
[00:50] <drumline> pauliukas: awesome.  Thanks dude!
[00:50] <pauliukas> np
[00:50] <askand> spartacus:  thanks for the warning mate
[00:50] <l21logan99> wols: i cant find how to do that
[00:51] <l21logan99> wols: excuse my stupidity please
[00:51] <Slart> spartacus: huh.. I'm running 1680x1050 with gutsy
[00:51] <spartacus> Slart: with ATI 7.12 driver?
[00:51] <Joe_> Hey, I'm thinking about switching over to Ubuntu (from XP) and was wondering if ubuntu supports the broadcom BCM4318 chipset from the start?
[00:51] <Slart> spartacus: ahh.. ati.. they always crash the good parties =)
[00:51] <Slart> spartacus: I'm using nvidia
[00:51] <yubwyub> vad bestämmer vad som finns med i lägg till/ta bort, eller som man måste ta från Synaptic istället?
[00:51] <Urim> wols : windows says : error29: Disk Write Error(thanks for help)
[00:52] <musikgoat> Joe_: i think there are issues to start
[00:52] <Slart> !english | yubwyub
[00:52] <ubotu> yubwyub: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[00:52] <musikgoat> !bcm43xx
[00:52] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[00:52] <yubwyub> oups.. wrong tab :-}
[00:52] <spartacus> Slart: yup, and 7.11 supported 1680x1050! damn
[00:52] <Fezzler> How would I use "apt-get update" for Samba to update the program files.  Update Manager isn't working.
[00:52] <Slart> yubwyub: I think ubuntu (canonical) decides what goes in there..
[00:52] <yubwyub> aha. ok thanks
[00:52] <shigutso> When I hit Ctrl+C in GIMP, the New File option is not showing the size of the Copyed space anymore, WHY? Is this a bug from 7.10??
[00:52] <askand> spartacus it wasnt a long time between 7.11 and 7.12...maybe we get another soon?
[00:53] <Fezzler> I asked in #Samba but they called me a clueless Ubuntu user and told me to get lost.  :)
[00:53] <Slart> spartacus: I thought the ati drivers were improving?
[00:53] <Jerr> so I have dual monitors working with the nvidia driver
[00:53] <Joe_> okay is it difficult to get it working as ive tried fedora core and debian etch and neither worked
[00:53] <Jerr> but, I can't get compiz working
[00:53] <nickrud> Jerr, what video chip?
[00:53] <finchx6> Joe: I did a quick google search and there are several forums saying they're having trouble with them
[00:53] <musikgoat> Joe_: i'm not speaking from experience, sorry
[00:53] <Jerr> nv 6800 gs
[00:53] <spartacus> askand: not long... http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=735&num=4
[00:54] <spartacus> Slart, the packaging and integration has been.
[00:54] <Spzatt> Slart : didnt work
[00:54] <nickrud> oh, nvidia, don't use that. But, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg , then    restricted-manager  and installing the nvidia driver should do it
[00:54] <Joe_> ah okay, i realise there a pain to get working its just im a bit new to linux and cant get them working at all ive tried every tutorial out there and none seem to work
[00:54] <MacTheMad> slart: buddy stopped by & has him stumped too (only knows windows tho) and he's saying something about if all the cables on my network are type a and the one on this machine is type b... but again when I just booted same machine to windows I get a connection... same settings? I'm quite stumped & frustrated
[00:54] <warriorforgod> I need to get vnc access to my machine through a web browser.  Anybody know how to do this in 64 bit ubuntu?
[00:55] <spartacus> Slart, They even support building Ubuntu debs from the installer
[00:55] <Slart> Spzatt: same error?
[00:55] <Myrmidon> where are the programs saved at by default in xubuntu?
[00:55] <finchx6> Joe: I'm in the same boat with my laptops sound card...  lol
[00:55] <Myrmidon> cuz i want to put some shortcuts in the taskbar
[00:55] <musikgoat> Joe_: it seems it would be easier to just cough up the $30 or so for a decent atheros or ralink card
[00:55] <Jerr> nickrud: I'm using nvidia driver already
[00:55] <Urim> wols: windows is giving error 29:  Disk write error just right after i choose winxp in the OS menu choice... it doesn't reach a status bar or something.. just gives this and press any key to continue
[00:56] <nickrud> Jerr, does glxinfo | grep direct say yes?
[00:56] <Spzatt> yes
[00:56] <Slart> MacTheMad: yes.. we've checked the firewall.. we've checked the route table..we've checked ip-nbr etc.. I don't know what else to look at
[00:56] <Jerr> nickrud: yes
[00:56] <spartacus> warriorforgod, you'll probably need a host with a java vnc client applet, or something
[00:56] <Joe_> yeah i dont really have the money though, i bought a cheap etec wireless usb adapter for my desktop but that didnt work either, i couldnt even find out what chipset was in that
[00:57] <Slart> spartacus: ah.. sounds like it will be good once they get things together
[00:57] <shigutso> When I hit Ctrl+C in GIMP, the New File option is not showing the size of the Copyed space anymore, WHY? Is this a bug from 7.10??
[00:57] <nickrud> Jerr, then system->prefs->appearance , last tab, you selected some effects?
[00:57] <musikgoat> Joe_: i understand that
[00:57] <Jerr> nickrud: yes and it couldnt do it
[00:57] <spartacus> warriorforgod, and of course, running vnc-server on your system
[00:57] <MacTheMad> slart: yeah, thanks... gonna call it a night & start again tomorrow... have a good one
[00:57] <Slart> Spzatt: well.. if that didn't work then I don't know what else to try.. try asking the channel again.. mention the exact error message
[00:57] <Slart> MacTheMad: you too.. good night
[00:57] <nickrud> Jerr, try typing  compiz --replace   in a terminal
[00:57] <Myrmidon> where are programs saved at by default?
[00:58] <preaction> Myrmidon, the executables are saved in /usr/bin, why?
[00:58] <nickrud> Myrmidon, in /etc/ , /usr/bin , /usr/share , a few others.   dpkg -L <packagename> will spit out all files & locations
[00:58] <Myrmidon> because i want to put some shortcuts in the taskbar
[00:58] <Jerr> nickrud: segfault
[00:58] <warriorforgod> spartacus: I am running vncserver and have a session running on display :1.  I also have port 5801 and 5901 forwarded to the machine on my router.  When I browse to the machine through a web broser I get page cannot be displayed.
[00:58] <Joe_> okay thanks anyway, im off now bye!
[00:58] <cowlikk> can anyone help me with some problems i am having
[00:59] <boobsbr> hi, i tried to configure my notbook to use my desktop's monitor and now everything is messed up
[00:59] <warriorforgod> spartacus: And nothing at all shows up in the log file.
[00:59] <Fezzler> Anyone else having trouble getting Update Manager to install Samba file updates?
[00:59] <nickrud> Jerr, so you have an install problem somehow, did you install anything but ubuntu stuff while trying to get this to work?
[00:59] <boobsbr> can't even get the screen app running
[00:59] <warriorforgod> spartacus: Also when I do a ps -ef | grep vnc I get nothing as well.
[00:59] <ogre> hey guys, what do i install to get ubutustudio stff from repos?
[00:59] <Jerr> nickrud: I didn't install anything I don't think
[01:00] <cowlikk> when i log out and try to log in i just get a peach screen and an arrow then nothing happens can anyone help me
[01:00] <nickrud> Fezzler, try sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade , you should see some errors. It end of shift, my ride is leaving.
[01:00] <sainzeo> cowlikk: have you tried restarting your computer?
[01:00] <eugman> orge, have you done a seach for ubuntu studio package? I think there is one
[01:01] <cowlikk> yeah when i restart the computer it logs in and everything goes well but if i click log out and come back to log in then it dont work
[01:01] <sainzeo> cowlikk: is this on a fresh install?
[01:01] <oaki> hi
[01:02] <Jerr> I have a problem with compiz
[01:02] <cowlikk> yes just installed and installed nvidia driver
[01:02] <oaki> me too
[01:02] <Jerr> it segfaults
[01:02] <oaki> hmm
[01:02] <Jerr> The error was 'RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter)'. (Details: serial 352 error_code 181 request_code 157 minor_code 8)
[01:02] <oaki> look at the name of the error or write the text on google search
[01:02] <oaki> and you will find the answer to your problem
[01:03] <finchx6> well, I was kind of sitting in here waiting for a good time to ask my question, but I was trying to get this working all yesterday evening and today during lunch.  I got a laptop thats using the STAC Sigmatel 9200 soundcard... which has some issues, and every how-to I try and follow, I can't get to work.  Theres a forum on it at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=614903 but it didn't help me any... infact, last night I was follow
[01:03] <oaki> sorry
[01:03] <Jerr> oaki: xinerama is the problem
[01:03] <oaki> I'm new to linis too
[01:04] <oaki> sorry
[01:04] <oaki> linux
[01:04] <spartacus> warriorforgod, sorry, it's not something i've actually set up myself. i'm as green as you are on that.
[01:04] <warriorforgod> spartacus: ok. thx anyway
[01:05] <oaki> linux is funny
[01:05] <oaki> and different of windows
[01:05] <oaki> :P
[01:05] <musikgoat> !enter
[01:05] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:05] <oaki> k
[01:05] <boobsbr> alright, i tried to set up my desktop monitor to work with my laptop and now the screen resolution is all messed up and i can't even run the screen and video card GUI configurer. how do i fix this? it is very annoying
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> ogre: There is a channel for ubuntustudio
[01:06] <oaki> try to download the programs from add/remove application
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> boobsbr: can you boot to recovery mode..
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !who > oaki
[01:07] <Benalex> Hello all , Is there a program that lets me ping ranges of ips??
[01:07] <boobsbr> how do i get into recovery mode? the grub menu?
[01:07] <Mawbid> I have an X keyboard problem on Gutsy. With pc105 model and US layout, the key I expect to yield backslash or bar (keycode 51, left of enter, middle row) instead yields plus or asterisk (as it does with Icelandic layout, which I also use).
[01:07] <musikgoat> Benalex: nmap
[01:07] <CarlFK> what is the command to sync the date from a date server ?
[01:07] <LjL> Benalex: for IP in list-of-IPs ; do ping $IP ; done
[01:08] <LjL> !ntp > CarlFK    (CarlFK, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> boobsbr: yes if you can get to grub menu.. recovery mode... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    set card to vesa.. max res to 1024 to get back into gui
[01:08] <CarlFK> thanks
[01:08] <boobsbr> will try
[01:08] <Urim> if i use a winxp home edition from toshiba.. the recovery CD to install winxp ... does that cause any problem to winxp once i am done installing ubuntu ?
[01:08] <boobsbr> brb
[01:08] <Benalex> musikgoat: Thank you, LjL I prefere frontend programs :)
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> boobsbr: IF you have a backup and know the name... sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf   to edit manually
[01:09] <tiagoboldt> need _HELP_: I've got a Toshiba L40 not showing my wlan device. It's internally usb connected(appears in lsusb), I've tried the normal ndiswrapper approaches but it's not working :\\
[01:09] <musikgoat> Benalex: nmap -v -sP <IP_ADDRESS>/16  is an example
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Urim: it will overwrite your grub menu and not let you into ubuntu
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub > Urim
[01:10] <finchx6> tiago: it sees the card but isn't working???  Are you connecting to a secure network?? like with WEP for example?
[01:10] <Benalex> musikgoat: what <IP_ADDRESS>/16 will scan?
[01:11] <musikgoat> <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS> i believe
[01:11] <tretle> how do i fix broken packages?
[01:11] <musikgoat> what are you trying to ping Benalex
[01:11] <tretle> synaptic doesnt do the job
[01:11] <musikgoat> Benalex: the /16 is CIDR notation
[01:12] <tretle> using hardy
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> tretle: What have you done as far as changing your sources or using non-official repos
[01:12] <Benalex> I am trying to ping all pcs on my home network... 192.168.1.*
[01:12] <tretle> iv dont the dist upgrade
[01:12] <musikgoat> nmap -v -sP <IP_ADDRESS>/24  then
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> tretle: that would be #Ubuntu+1
[01:12] <Urim> Jack_Sparrow: i installed winxp first from toshiba recovery disk.. then installed ubuntu 7.10... but i am not able to boot back to winxp getting error 29: disk write error... is that cuz the toshiba-ms disk is a recovery disk not installer
[01:12] <tretle> more active here usually isnt it?
[01:13] <musikgoat> tretle: 1126 people isn't active?
[01:13] <daedrik> anyone knows a good hardware store in europe, that dispatches to all europe ?
[01:13] <musikgoat> what cause its not 1400+ people like around gutsy release?
[01:13] <finchx6> uhm, apparently I need to update my alsa to the newest release 1.0.15...  can anyone walk me through this???
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Urim: can you get into ubuntu?
[01:14] <maybeway36> finchx6: why?
[01:14] <Torchwood> the 9.0.48 flashplugin-nonfree - http://rapidshare.com/files/77997350/install_flash_player_9_0_48_linux.tar.gz.html
[01:14] <finchx6> because my laptop's soundcard (Sigmatel STAC9200) isn't supported by earlier versions, and I have no sound  :[
[01:15] <maybeway36> are you on gutsy?
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> tretle: Yes it is more active here.. but questions and problems with the future release/version belong in that channel
[01:15] <finchx6> not on THIS computer, but its on my laptop right beside me
[01:15] <shane2peru> does anyone know how to chat with more than one person using pidgin and yahoo?
[01:15] <maybeway36> hmm...
[01:16] <sainzeo> shane2peru: like a group/conference chat?
[01:16] <maybeway36> finchx6: try enabling backports
[01:16] <musikgoat> shane2peru: i don't think you can cross clients in a chat
[01:16] <maybeway36> not sure if it's there or not
[01:16] <Torchwood> shane2peru: just double click on their names. a seperate tab will open for each one
[01:16] <shane2peru> sainzeo: yes
[01:16] <finchx6> I've found several forums that walk you through how to get this sound card working, but I can't get them to work for me.  I'm a bit a noob, unfortunately
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Torchwood: great show.. but why did you post the link?
[01:17] <Torchwood> Jack_Sparrow: cos 9.0.115 is broken and they've stopped supplying (the working) 9.0.48
[01:17] <shane2peru> Torchwood: is there any way to have them all in the same tab?
[01:17] <shane2peru> Torchwood: kind of like here?
[01:17] <Torchwood> shane2peru: don't think so. don't know. maybe one of the plugins
[01:18] <musikgoat> shane2peru: have you tried the join chat option in buddies list?
[01:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Torchwood: The problem is.. that still does not work for people using opera and others.. just firefox.. and when the fix comes down.. doing that could cause them real problems
[01:18] <lastelement1> has anyone been able to set up RipIt4Me in wine and get it too function?
[01:18] <Torgoton> bazhang, you around?
[01:18] <shane2peru> musikgoat: ahh, I overlooked that
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> lastelement1: we tend to use k9copy to rip dvd's...  You might try in #winehq
[01:19] <lastelement1> jack_sparrow does k9copy work in the same/similar manner?
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> lastelement1: yes  rip down sized to single layer etc..
[01:21] <shane__> musikgoat, I don't think that worked.
[01:21] <lastelement1> jack_sparrow does it also burn the disk following the rip or do i need other software?
[01:21] <Torchwood> Jack_Sparrow: to uninstall : find /usr/lib/ -name "libflashplayer.so" -delete. it's a hack, but i want working flash so i'm gonna use it. it's just the adobe manual installer. the gutsy .deb simply downloads v115 and unpacks it to the same place
[01:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme
[01:21] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[01:21] <musikgoat> shane__: #pidgin can verify if yahoo chatrooms are supported by pidgin
[01:22] <Jack_Sparrow> lastelement1: check it out.. it is in the repos
[01:22] <shane__> musikgoat, I think I got it
[01:22] <musikgoat> used add a chat.. instead?
[01:22] <shane__> the other person was invisible so it didn't give me the option
[01:22] <musikgoat> oh
[01:23] <Torchwood> later dudes
[01:23] <Jack_Sparrow> later
[01:23] <ryancr> I could use some help with my atl1 network card driver, i am getting an ip etc but I can not get anywhere no ping etc
[01:23] <arubin> is it relatively simple to install Ubuntu without an traces of X?
[01:23] <brophat> bought a linksys wireless nic but it is not connecting to the lan
[01:23] <Pelo> running away from me Jack_Sparrow ?
[01:23] <maybeway36> arubin: yes - use "Install a command-line system"
[01:23] <maybeway36> on the alternate cd
[01:23] <arubin> maybeway36: thank you
[01:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo: Howdy.. nope
[01:23] <Pelo> arubin, use the alternate install cd and use the minimal install option or something similar
[01:24] <arubin> I'm just investigating options at the moment
[01:24] <arubin> long time FreeBSD user
[01:24] <boobsbr> jack! thank you, it worked!
[01:24] <{Nathan}> I need to set ~/bin in my path so I can put my own scripts and such in my path safely. How can I do this (.bashrc?)
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo: Just waving goodbye to torchwood
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> boobsbr: glad to hear it..
[01:24] <boobsbr> i was going mad, and i could hear cthulhu calling me and telling me to switch to vista...
[01:24] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow,  personnaly I can'T wait for torchwood to start again
[01:24] <Perff> hi all
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> boobsbr: You might want to write that down..
[01:25] <Perff> I have a question. How do I install grub in ubuntu, if I don't have stage1 file?
[01:25] <boobsbr> never going to forget
[01:25] <{Nathan}> Perff: download it. Or run grubinstall
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo: I have them all on tivo.. as well as Dr Who...  which I am watching now... sorry all for the ot
[01:25] <boobsbr> need to write down a reminder to learn the dpkg tool
[01:25] <Pelo> Perff, grub should have been installed with ubuntu
[01:25] <shane__> musikgoat, ok, when I invite them to chat nothing happens. :)
[01:25] <magnetron> !grub > Perff
[01:25] <{Nathan}> boobsbr: dpkg is _really_ easy
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> boobsbr: good idea to have a backup as well
[01:25] <Perff> somehow gutsy installer screwed
[01:26] <shane__> musikgoat, or join in chat
[01:26] <musikgoat> hmm shane__ past that, i'm out of ideas, the pidgin channel may have a better answer for you
[01:26] <boobsbr> now, 1 more thing, why is fsck eating 2 minutes of my life every time i boot the laptop?
[01:27] <shane__> what is that channel musikgoat
[01:27] <musikgoat>  /j #pidgin
[01:27] <shane__> musikgoat, thanks
[01:28] <warriorforgod> I have a webserver running and my isp blocks port 80, so I have apache listen on 81.  Is there anyway I can make it so people don't have to type :81 at the end of the address?
[01:28] <Perff>  sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[01:28] <Perff> /dev/sda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive
[01:28] <Perff> hmmm
[01:28] <magnetron> warriorforgod: no. your ISP is effectively stopping that.
[01:29] <Pelo> Perff, try  sudo grub-install hd0
[01:29] <Perff>  sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[01:29] <Perff> Pelo,  sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[01:29] <Perff> /dev/sda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive
[01:29] <Perff>  sudo grub-install hd0
[01:29] <Perff> /dev/sda10 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[01:29] <Perff> o
[01:29] <Perff> the same
[01:29] <Tomterer> warriorforgod seriously. CHANGE ISP if they harrass you like that
[01:29] <warriorforgod> Tomterer: Only other thing around here is DLS which I don't want.
[01:30] <Pelo> Perff, grub uses another skeem to identify hardrives   hd0 = sda
[01:30] <warriorforgod> s/DLS/DSL/g
[01:30] <Tomterer> but you can get a blabla.no-ip.com address that will transparently connect to your port 81
[01:30] <Perff> Pelo, and?
[01:30] <Perff> both ways don't work
[01:30] <Pelo> Perff, hd0,0 = sda1
[01:30] <Perff> Pelo, i know that
[01:30] <{Nathan}> warriorforgod: I think you could get dyndns to do the same.
[01:30] <Tomterer> (and no-ip.com addresses are free warriorforgod)
[01:30] <musikgoat> yeah Tomterer? i didn't know they can do that
[01:30] <Tomterer> yeah exactly {Nathan}
[01:30] <Perff> Pelo, i know that scheme, but I don't know how to make grub fix my boot
[01:30] <Pelo> Perff,  my mistake I missread your second post
[01:30] <musikgoat> nice
[01:31] <wols> Perff: what is in your /boot/grub/device.map
[01:31] <Shirakawasuna> hello.  I have a toshiba m115 here that suddenly stopped being able to hibernate properly after upgrading to Gutsy.  It worked fine in Feisty and worked for a little while using the old kernel, but now the older 2.6.20 kernel won't boot.  If I select 'suspend' from the 'log out' dialogue, it does a bit of the process, turns off the screen, then hangs with the computer still 'on'.  This runs down the battery and the only
[01:31] <Shirakawasuna> way to continue is to to a hard reboot.
[01:31] <Perff> wols it's empty
[01:31] <Pelo> Perff, get the supergrub cd and do it from te menues
[01:31] <Tomterer> unless I'm delusional atm they can musikgoat :)
[01:31] <Shirakawasuna> does anyone have any ideas for figuring out how to fix this?
[01:31] <Perff> Pelo, what's that?
[01:31] <wols> Perff: (hd0) /dev/sda  then
[01:31] <Perff> wols,  sudo grub-install (hd0) /dev/sda
[01:31] <Perff> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[01:32] <wols> Perff: I meant in your device.map, not grub-install
[01:32] <Pelo> Perff, a boot cd to fix stuff in grub,  it has a menu system ( of sorts ) that will perform various task for you , like isntalling stage 1 and specifying where stage 2 is etc
[01:32] <nickrud> Jerr, still here?
[01:33] <Perff> wols, nice.. now
[01:33] <Perff>  sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[01:33] <Perff> Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
[01:33] <Perff> Due to a bug in xfs_freeze, the following command might produce a segmentation
[01:33] <Perff> fault when /boot/grub is not in an XFS filesystem. This error is harmless and
[01:33] <Perff> can be ignored.
[01:33] <Perff> xfs_freeze: specified file ["/boot/grub"] is not on an XFS filesystem
[01:33] <Shirakawasuna> *poke poke*
[01:33] <shane__> ok, how about using Kopete and yahoo and a conference?
[01:33] <Pelo> Perff, http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html or http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[01:33] <Perff> Installation finished. No error reported.
[01:33] <Perff> This is the contents of the device map /boot/grub/device.map.
[01:33] <Perff> Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect,
[01:33] <Perff> fix it and re-run the script `grub-install'.
[01:33] <kyu_flux> you guys probably get this all the time, but I want to connect to a vista share anonymously (guest)
[01:34]  * magnetron pokes Shirakawasuna
[01:34] <Pelo> !pastebin | Perff
[01:34] <ubotu> Perff: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:34] <kyu_flux> what I see is how to make it to connect using a specific account - how do you do this with guest?
[01:34] <Pelo> Perff, http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html or http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[01:34] <keithclark> Hi everyone!  Glad to report that Ubuntu installed on my laptop with no issues.  Even the ATI and Broadcom work!
[01:34] <Shirakawasuna> magnetron: fix this computer!
[01:34] <magnetron> !attitude > Shirakawasuna
[01:35] <Perff> Pelo, thx, i'll try
[01:35] <keithclark> Now, I just have I last question.  How to enable Compiz?
[01:35] <Pelo> keithclark, congrasulations
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !ccsm
[01:35] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[01:35] <keithclark> Thanks Pelo.
[01:35] <Pelo> keithclark, menu > system > prefs > appearance,  last tab
[01:36] <Perff> Pelo, is it possible to run it just supergrub as it is, or i should burn a cd? strange..
[01:36] <Shirakawasuna> what are the chances of using a 2.6.23 kernel in ubuntu without compiling?
[01:36] <wols> Shirakawasuna: nil?
[01:36] <keithclark> Pelo, says it is not available.
[01:36] <nickrud> keithclark, run  restricted-manager , enable ati restricted. Then   sudo modprobe fglrx  . Log out, log in.   fglrxinfo , be sure you are using ati driver 8.37.6 .   sudo aptitude install xserver-xgl emerald compizconfig-settings-manager , logout , login
[01:36] <Pelo> Perff, supergrub is a boot cd but I guess you can try and unpack the image to a usb flash drive if you know how to boot from one
[01:36] <Shirakawasuna> darn non-rolling-release distro
[01:37] <Pelo> keithclark, you might need to insall opengl support,  not quite sure how,  try asking in #compiz-fusion
[01:37] <keithclark> Pelo, thanks....I'll look into that.
[01:37] <magnetron> Shirakawasuna: how much ram and swap do you have?
[01:38] <Shirakawasuna> lemme check
[01:38] <Perff> Pelo, it's too complicated.. no simpler way? :(
[01:38] <{Nathan}> How do I set ~/bin into my path on startup? I'm guessing it's in .bashrc.
[01:38] <Pelo> Perff, just burn to a cd and boot from it
[01:38] <Perff> i don't need windows and stuff, i just want to fix stage1 and menu.lst and so on
[01:38] <Perff> Pelo, where could i find a cdddd
[01:38] <Perff> at 2AM
[01:38] <Shirakawasuna> magnetron: looks like ~450 M ram and 1.3 G swap
[01:39] <Pelo> Perff, sigh
[01:39] <wols> Perff: do you use a xfs filesystem?
[01:39] <Shirakawasuna> magnetron: this occurs with nothing but the default desktop loaded
[01:39] <Shirakawasuna> (GNOME)
[01:39] <Perff> wols ext3
[01:39] <musikgoat> {Nathan}: add this to .bashrc  export PATH =$PATH:/new/path/to/add:/other/new/path
[01:39] <Pelo> Perff, make a small partition on your hdd and unpack the iso to it , then boot from that
[01:39] <qwaz> I have fetchmail set as a cron job to check my work email every 5 minutes. However, I'm getting mail from cron telling me that it did it's job.Is there a way to stop this?
[01:39] <Perff> Pelo, how could I boot from that partition?
[01:39] <Pelo> qwaz, lol
[01:40] <Shirakawasuna> I'm trying to figure out some ways to determine the problem, but I'm fairly sure it's just this kernel version
[01:40] <wols> Perff: I don't see any error in the outpu you pasted here. are you sure it hasn't installed properly?
[01:40] <musikgoat> {Nathan}: then logout and login, and test with $PATH
[01:40] <qwaz> Pelo: am I an idiot?
[01:40] <Pelo> Perff, nevermind , I ugess i'm an idiot
[01:40] <gvsa123> if i download and install unrar from synaptics, it doesn't add an additional program right? it justs adds to ubuntu's default archive manager, the ability to handle rar files?
[01:40] <Shirakawasuna> and waiting 4 months doesn't sound so great
[01:40] <wols> qwaz: run fetchmail as a daemon
[01:40] <Moult> Can somebody help teach me how to install apps (not in add/remove app program) i'm new to ubuntu
[01:40] <Pelo> qwaz, no, just a realy cute cunnundrum
[01:40] <musikgoat> gvsa123: it installs unrar
[01:40] <nickrud> qwaz, add   > /dev/null at the end of your cron fetchmail invocation, that will dump it into a bit bucket
[01:40] <gvsa123> Moult: use synaptics
[01:40] <qwaz> wols: I would prefer to run it as a cron
[01:40] <Perff> wols: hmmm... i guess i have to reboot to check?
[01:40] <tretle> hey.... does anyone know why upnp isnt working in rhythmbox?
[01:40] <magnetron> Shirakawasuna: there there are a lot of different laptop models out there, and almost everyone implement their "suspend"-feature differently. so a lot of laptop owners are facing the same problem as you.
[01:40] <musikgoat> gvsa123: which works with ubuntu's archive manager
[01:40] <Perff> or is there any other way? :)
[01:41] <wols> qwaz: and usually cron mails if there was an error with the cronjob, not otherwise
[01:41] <nickrud> qwaz, if you have an error, you should get a mail telling you
[01:41] <Pelo> Moult, what kind of file do you have to instal from ?
[01:41] <mongo1> im trying to connect to my home network but i dont know where to input my information
[01:41] <mongo1> wireless network
[01:41] <qwaz> wols: I was getting an email from cron saying "8 new messages for bla bla"
[01:41] <qwaz> nickrud: Thanks man
[01:41] <Pelo> mongo1, menu > system > admin > network I guess
[01:41] <snkmad> how do i know what nvidia driver version i have installed here?
[01:41] <Perff> wols thanks i'll try to reboot now...
[01:41] <gvsa123> musikgoat: then i can simply right click on a rar file and choose open with archive manager and it'll work just like any other archive
[01:41] <ipx_laptop> Is it possible that the latest linux kernel that came in the update manager of ubuntu gutsy gibbon broke my sound drivers?
[01:41] <musikgoat> gvsa123: yes
[01:41] <wols> snkmad: dpkg -l |grep nvidia
[01:41] <nickrud> qwaz, although wols 's advice about running it as a daemon is a better idea
[01:41] <magnetron> Shirakawasuna: if you check the ubuntu wiki though, there MAY be info about your model and its linux support
[01:42] <Shirakawasuna> magnetron: yes.  I remember finding once that it had to do with the 2.6.22 version, but now I can no longer find that page.  I belive it specifically affected radeon x200m laptops, but not positive.
[01:42] <Pelo> Moult, http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[01:42] <mongo1> is there any way for ubuntu to search for wireless networks in range?
[01:42] <kyu_flux> don't see it in the FAQ - how do I connect to an anonymous vista share?
[01:42] <gvsa123> musikgoat: thanks
[01:42] <qwaz> nickrud: I had "fetchmail $> /dev/null" was the $ not needed?
[01:42] <wols> kyu_flux: iwlist for example
[01:42] <snkmad> wols thx
[01:42] <Shirakawasuna> magnetron: I think I'm going to try compiling a 2.6.23 kernel first.  Will I break a whole lot of things that way, like ndiswrapper and the radeon driver?
[01:42] <qwaz> wols: Why is running fetchmail as a daemon a better solution?
[01:42] <mongo1> Pelo: do i want to enable "Roaming Mode" or no?
[01:43] <Shirakawasuna> magnetron: fglrx, really
[01:43] <nickrud> qwaz, no
[01:43] <wols> qwaz: cause it was designed for it
[01:43] <magnetron> Shirakawasuna: i don't knom
[01:43] <kyu_flux> wols: iwlist - how is wireless related to it?
[01:43] <musikgoat> mongo1: you are trying to file share?  i don't think that menu is going to help
[01:43] <nickrud> qwaz, that is, no you don't want the $ :)
[01:43] <Pelo> mongo1, wireless  I think you want to yes, but I am not an expert on this
[01:43] <Shirakawasuna> hmm
[01:43] <Shirakawasuna> I'd think they would break
[01:43] <wols> kyu_flux: have you checked what iwlist is?
[01:43] <qwaz> nickrud: Gotcha
[01:43] <mongo1> no im not trying to file share just trying to connect to my home wireless network
[01:43] <gvsa123> musikgoat: so which is better? the free or non-free of unrar?
[01:44] <kyu_flux> man iwlist == gets detailed wireless information from a wireless interface
[01:44] <wols> gvsa123: morally or technically?
[01:44] <Pelo> mongo1, did you mean you want to be able to connect to the other computers on your home network ? I think you need to use samba for that but again , not an expert
[01:44] <tretle> anyone know how to get the upnp plugin in rhythmbox working?
[01:44] <gvsa123> wols: lol... technically.
[01:44] <musikgoat> good question, i think i have both installed, i think either one works with archive manager for what you are looking for
[01:44] <jorge__> r irc.cl
[01:44] <mongo1> no i just wanna connect to my router so i can connect to the internet
[01:44] <Pelo> !wifi | mongo1
[01:44] <ubotu> mongo1: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:45] <gvsa123> musikgoat: i see...
[01:45] <gvsa123> <examines conscience>
[01:45] <wols> mongo1: roaming mode is iirc unencrypted
[01:45] <kyu_flux> wols: man iwlist == gets detailed wireless information from a wireless interface
[01:45] <mongo1> i dont know what that means
[01:45] <wols> kyu_flux: yes
[01:45] <Pelo> gvsa123, just sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[01:45] <kyu_flux> wols: i'm not using wireless
[01:45] <musikgoat> roaming mode, from what i've seen, allows network manager to manage it
[01:45] <nickrud> nicely even
[01:45] <Pelo> mongo1, iirc = if I recall correctly
[01:46] <kyu_flux> wols: all wired
[01:46] <ipx_laptop> The new update linux kernel broke my sound! No sound card in asoundconf anymore :(
[01:46] <wols> kyu_flux: sorry then I mxed up the nicks
[01:46] <kyu_flux> wols: np
[01:46] <gvsa123> Pelo: hmmm... but i don't think i need the rar capability... what's with the different archiving format anyway
[01:46] <Pelo> ipx_laptop, review the sound stuff first
[01:46] <Pelo> !sound | ipx_laptop
[01:46] <ubotu> ipx_laptop: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:46] <Pelo> gvsa123, everyone wants their fav
[01:46] <qwaz> is it normail for the amount of time Mutt says "Sending mail" to be around 30-40 seconds?
[01:47] <wols> kyu_flux: smbmount takes a "guest" option which doesn't prompt for a passwd
[01:47] <Moult> Pelo: sorry i was afk
[01:47] <qwaz> normal...i've got mail on the brain
[01:47] <ipx_laptop> Pelo: thx
[01:47] <Cr3ature> i don't see Ubuntu users doing this: riradio pitää asentaa
[01:47] <ipx_laptop> will look em through
[01:47] <Moult> Pelo: ok i want to install this thing  http://www.vim.org/download.p
[01:47] <wols> qwaz: depends on mail sizw and badnwith to the MTA
[01:47] <mongo1> Pelo: I found this thread but i dont know what its saying to do... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990
[01:47] <Moult> Pelo: sorry wrong link http://www.vim.org/download.php
[01:47] <cowlikk> when i log out and come back to log in i just get a peach screen and a mouse arrow and thats all that happens
[01:47] <qwaz> wols: This was just a test message
[01:47] <nickrud> Cr3ature, wrong channel, I'm sure the do in another language
[01:47] <musikgoat> gvsa123: alot of people fight about whats better, rar compression or 7lza or whatever it is
[01:47] <Pelo> mongo1, did you check the links ubotu gave you first ?
[01:47] <qwaz> wols: MTA is sendmail
[01:47] <wols> qwaz: why?
[01:48] <Pelo> Moult, vim is already in the repos
[01:48] <Moult> Pelo: i want to learn more about linux, and i thought by learning how to compile/install manually programs was a good start
[01:48] <mongo1> Pelo: ya thats what lead me to that link.
[01:48] <cowlikk> so when i am in the peach screen and nothing happens i do ctrl+alt+f5 and do a ps ax and the last thing on that list is gnome-screensaver but the screen saver works fine when i am loged in correctly
[01:48] <musikgoat> Moult: isn't vim installed by default?
[01:48] <qwaz> wols: ? because im a noob
[01:48] <Pelo> Moult,  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[01:48] <cowlikk> can anyone helpme
[01:48] <gvsa123> Pelo: musikgoat: so what's the "default" or preferred archiving format for ubuntu? is there?
[01:48] <wols> qwaz: especially when you are a noob you should NEVER use sendmail
[01:48] <Pelo> mongo1, give me a minute to read the link
[01:48] <wols> dpkg -S /usr/sbin/sendmail
[01:48] <qwaz> wols: im a noob, but not a dumb noob
[01:48] <mongo1> Pelo: ok, thanks alot mucho appreciated.
[01:48] <Pelo> gvsa123, tarball,  they are already availalbe by default
[01:48] <Moult> musikgoat: i do not see any Vim
[01:48] <qwaz> wols: the sendmail configuration made plenty of sense
[01:49] <musikgoat> gvsa123: yeah tar.gz is common
[01:49] <Moult> Pelo: by the way what repository are you talkign about?
[01:49] <LycoLoco> hey guys - while I believe that ubuntu is now getting loaded from the bootloader properly, I'm now getting dumped into BusyBox 1.1.3 - anyone have any clue what would cause that? TTY1 just displays "Loading, please wait..." and TTY5 and 8 show BusyBox.
[01:49] <qwaz> wols: configured mutt, fetchmail and sendmail...im not stupid
[01:49] <wols> qwaz: I tend to disagree. what is the package name of the dpkg command I just told you?
[01:49] <Pelo> Moult,  menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager
[01:49] <musikgoat> gvsa123: tar creates on long file, and gzip or bzip2 are the popular linux compression formats
[01:49] <Mokilok> can someone please tell me what directory programs like Xchat are kept in my default, so i know where to put my Xchat plugins like obsidian?
[01:49] <gvsa123> Pelo: musikgoat: oh.... what about the variations in tar? .bz, gz, ezwizi... lol
[01:50] <nickrud> lol, anyone that gets mutt nicely configured is either masochistic or does have an idea
[01:50] <wols> LycoLoco: it couldn't find your / partition
[01:50] <gvsa123> musikgoat: oh they;'re different format altogether
[01:50] <musikgoat> gvsa123: tar is separate from compressing, don't get them confused
[01:50] <Shirakawasuna> hmm
[01:50] <Shirakawasuna> is there an easy way to reinstall an old kernel?
[01:50] <Pelo> gvsa123, those are all supported natively in ubuntu,  stick with tar-gz for your own archiving I suggest seems to be the most common
[01:50] <Shirakawasuna> perhaps a repo keeping legacy versions?
[01:50] <cowlikk> can anyon in here help me
[01:50] <kyu_flux> wols: thanks (I didn't get it to work yet) - it's amazing that I'd have to use smbmount when there's a perfectly good file browser)
[01:50] <qwaz> wols: you disagree with my assesment of my own intelligence? or you disagree with sendmail's config making sense?
[01:50] <wols> nickrud: if said person uses snedmail without a good reason pretty much narrows it down what he is
[01:50] <gvsa123> musikgoat: oh tar doesn't compress?
[01:50] <musikgoat> the tar is just stringing all the files together into one file,  then, compressing it is the next step
[01:50] <LycoLoco> wols: good to know (seriously) - right now it's using ntldr instead of grub to load, so is there an easy way to get that to work instead of using ntldr?
[01:50] <kyu_flux> wols: but thanks for your help, i'll play around with this a little longer
[01:51] <Moult> Pelo: what is the use of this package manager?
[01:51] <wols> kyu_flux: not saying you can't do ti with the filebrowser
[01:51] <Pelo> mongo1, I suggest you just follow the instructions in tha tlink , the are a bit over my head
[01:51] <gvsa123> musikgoat: i see...
[01:51] <wols> LycoLoco: yes, install it
[01:51] <wols> it being grub that is
[01:51] <nickrud> wols, me, if I do local transport I use exim. Brain dead configuration (and I'll accept that appellation)
[01:51] <LycoLoco> already did
[01:51] <musikgoat> gvsa123:  the .extention  is just an extention... so you will see   filename.tar.gz  and you will see filename.tgz  which are the same
[01:51] <wols> qwaz: both
[01:51] <qwaz> wols: what makes you think I'm unintelligent?
[01:51] <mongo1> Pelo: :O if they're over your head then theyre certainly over mine ;( hmm maybe someone else can help
[01:51] <LycoLoco> wols: yeah, I just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu and this is the same result that I've gotten 3 times over, sadly
[01:51] <wols> nickrud: I use postfix
[01:51] <Pelo> Moult,  add/remove and synaptic are both frontend for apt ,  where add/remove only shows you the applications,  synaptic shows you all the packages available, apps, libs,  scritps etc
[01:51] <sunogbaga> help.. my other nic isn't working after i restarted my box
[01:51] <wols> qwaz: your use of MTA
[01:51] <qwaz> wols: I'm unintelligent because I used sendmail?
[01:52] <Moult> Pelo: oh ok thanks!
[01:52] <gvsa123> Moult: that's where you can find most if not all of the applications you would need in ubuntu
[01:52] <LycoLoco> wols: for some reason grub isn't taking priority over ntldr, and for the life of me I can't figure out why that would be
[01:52] <qwaz> wols: are you sure unintelligent means what you think it means?
[01:52] <kyu_flux> wols: any place you can refer me to to read on how to get it to work with the file browser?
[01:52] <wols> qwaz: It's still not sure what you use. cause every MTA on the planet has a sendmail wrapper
[01:52] <ipx_laptop> Pelo: been reading through and following the troubleshooting-guide now but im pretty sure its after the latest linux kernel update that came from the repos
[01:52] <qwaz> wols: Ok
[01:52] <wols> kyu_flux: I don't do gnome or GUI, sorry
[01:52] <eric> Hello, I was wondering if I could get some assistance on mounting a fat32 hdd
[01:52] <Pelo> mongo1, I suggest you skip the big intros and jump to the instructions, if you hit a snag , come back with a specific question
[01:52] <ipx_laptop> Pelo: you have any clue?
[01:52] <kyu_flux> wols: fair... thanks for your help =)
[01:52] <Pelo> Moult, did you check this our http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[01:52] <sunogbaga> LycoLoco: you havent installd grup on MBR
[01:52] <sunogbaga> LycoLoco: you havent installd grub on MBR
[01:52] <froek> any admins online?
[01:52] <musikgoat> eric do you know what the drive location is?
[01:53] <eric> yes Musikgoat
[01:53] <musikgoat> like /dev/sda or /dev/hda ?
[01:53] <sunogbaga> help.. my other nic isn't working after i restarted my box
[01:53] <eric> /dev/sdb1
[01:53] <Perff> hi all again
[01:53] <Moult> Pelo: yes. i'm trying to learn how to install for example, a random program online for linux, therefore i have chosen vim to test it out
[01:53] <LycoLoco> sunogbaga: then I'm not sure how to do that if the installer for ubuntu isn't doing that automatically. It's installing it to hd0, which I'm not sure if that's where my MBR is or not.
[01:53] <wols> sunogbaga: your nick being what kind?
[01:53] <musikgoat> mount -t msdos /dev/sdb1 /media/mountpoint
[01:53] <eric> it is a fat32 filesystem
[01:53] <qwaz> well, mail is going out, mailing lists are filtered and sorted, applicable ones are forwarded off to my blackberry
[01:53] <Moult> Pelo: now i'm confused as to which file i should download in the first place
[01:53] <ipx_laptop> How can I see my kernel version via the terminal easy?
[01:53] <qwaz> i must have just stumbled into all that
[01:53] <wols> ipx_laptop: uname -a
[01:53] <LycoLoco> sunogbaga: I've got 3 HDDs, two SATA, one PATA, so I'm not sure which drive to point it to install grub onto, and just went with the default of HD0
[01:53] <ipx_laptop> thx
[01:53] <Pelo> ipx_laptop, I get the cause, but the fix should still be the same,  start with the basics and go from there,  if your say your card is not present you probably have to install it again, no idea how however
[01:53] <mongo1> Pelo: well i tried to download the offline file but it doesn't exist.
[01:53] <musikgoat> eric mount -t msdos /dev/sdb1 /media/mountpoint    you could try   -t vfat too
[01:54] <Perff> wols, I've rebooted, and now I'm screwed. There's just command-line of GRUB, no menu any more, so I can't even edit the options and manually boot.
[01:54] <wols> LycoLoco: what happens when you install grub? and how do you install it?
[01:54] <qwaz> good to see the old linux attitude is creeping its way into #ubuntu
[01:54] <struio> Hello, all time when I enter on my session/machine to do login, I see 'machine.(none)' how can I have only machine name without none? thanks.
[01:54] <ipx_laptop> Pelo: ok thx
[01:54] <Pelo> Moult, hold on
[01:54] <LycoLoco> wols: I'm just letting the ubuntu 7.10 installer do its thing, nothing special
[01:54] <wols> Perff: chroot into your system again.
[01:54] <sunogbaga> LycoLoco: is grub installed in a different HDD?
[01:54] <Perff> wols: if I write root (hd0,9) and then setup (hd0), it works nicely, but next reboot I again get to commandline
[01:54] <Pelo> mongo1, hold on
[01:54] <Perff> it looks like I don't have menu.lst or something
[01:54] <Moult> Pelo: here is the link to the vim download site again http://www.vim.org/download.php
[01:54] <sunogbaga> LycoLoco: i mean ubuntu.. is it installed in another hdd?
[01:54] <wols> Perff: what did you boot right now? the ubuntu install?
[01:54] <nickrud> qwaz, lol, we gotta have some curmudgeons , otherwise it's no fun
[01:55] <LycoLoco> sunogbaga: I'm not sure, tbh. I'm not sure what the naming nomenclature of grub is, so I"m not sure if it's on teh same drive as ubuntu or not,
[01:55] <eric> sorry guys i got dropped, could you repeat the msdos mount script again?
[01:55] <Mokilok> can anyone who has a minute please tell me where i can find my installed programs like Xchat?
[01:55] <wols> nickrud: the curmudgeons are the sendmail users. they've been around much longer than us exim and psotfix folks
[01:55] <Perff> so i have to chat from my laptop :(
[01:55] <musikgoat> eric mount -t msdos /dev/sdb1 /media/mountpoint    you could try   -t vfat   instead
[01:55] <Pelo> Moult, join me in #pelo and wait for me a bit
[01:55] <wols> Mokilok: dpkg -L <package name> | grep bin
[01:55] <nickrud> Mokilok, in general , dpkg -L <pkgname> | grep /bin will show you the executables
[01:55] <ipx_laptop> Pelo: hehe look what i found :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3979768
[01:55] <eric> thank you, ill try that
[01:55] <sunogbaga> LycoLoco: try rebooting your box.. each time trying a different hdd
[01:55] <wols> Perff: well?
[01:56] <Pelo> ipx_laptop, congrats,  bit busy atm but good luck with it
[01:56] <aolaus> hey how can I download an ogg codec?
[01:56] <ipx_laptop> =)
[01:56] <serenityUK> eric first make a dir such as /media/mountpoint
[01:56] <LycoLoco> sunogbaga: you mean installing it to a different drive each time or booting from a different drive each time?
[01:56] <Perff> hey
[01:56] <musikgoat> thanks serenityUK
[01:56] <sunogbaga> LycoLoco: boot at a different hdd each time you reboot
[01:56] <wols> Perff: do you want a menu.lst or not? if so answer my questions
[01:56] <Pelo> mongo1, accept the file , I am sending it to you right now
[01:56] <eric> I have my mount point set up
[01:56] <nickrud> wols, very true. I spend some time on the sendmail lists when I was doing lfs, moved on to postfix lists because I couldn't stand it
[01:56] <qwaz> nickrud: anyway, thanks for the /dev/null tip :)
[01:56] <LycoLoco> ok, I'll give that a shot, sunogbaga
[01:56] <eric> the error I keep getting is as follows
[01:56] <mongo1> Pelo: try again it was ignored
[01:56] <wols> sunogbaga: what NIC?
[01:56] <eric>  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,
[01:56] <eric>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[01:56] <eric>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[01:56] <eric>        dmesg | tail  or so
[01:56] <wols> !paste | eric
[01:56] <ubotu> eric: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:57] <eric> sorry
[01:57] <serenityUK> eric use   -t vfat   instead
[01:57] <sunogbaga> wols: i remember it was 3com when i first plugged it in
[01:57] <mongo1> :( failed
[01:57] <musikgoat> eric that sounds like its not fat32
[01:57] <LycoLoco> sunogbaga: thanks for your help, hopefully I'll see ya on the other side : )
[01:57] <wols> sunogbaga: answer my question ins auseful manner please
[01:57] <mongo1> where did you get the file from and i'll go get it
[01:57] <LycoLoco> you too wols, thanks!
[01:57] <sunogbaga> LycoLoco: np :P
[01:57] <eric> fdisk says that it is a fat32 win95 lba
[01:57] <eric> vfat doesnt work either
[01:57] <sunogbaga> wols: wait, i'll check the nic
[01:58] <gvsa123>  the archive manager still says that rar is not supported..... i got unrar free
[01:58] <qwaz> wols: dude...relax man...you're not getting paid for this
[01:58] <qwaz> wols: have some fun, that's why you're here...I would guess
[01:58] <eric> ive tried to mount as NTFS but that doesnt work either.  I have the hdd connected to a pci sata card.  would that interfere?
[01:58] <aolaus> hey
[01:58] <wols> eric: not with the filesystem
[01:58] <aolaus> neither mplayer or rhythmbox will play ogg
[01:58] <aolaus> any thoughts?
[01:59] <eric> On the live cd, the system mounts everything fine.
[01:59] <JeevesMoss> Jack_Sparrow:  are you still here?
[01:59] <mackarill> hi guys hope someone can  help me, iv just installed 7.10 on my laptop and in visual effects there is no custom option. I'm using a dell inspiron 6000 and it has share intel graphics.
[01:59] <shane2peru> aolaus, is your sound muted?
[01:59] <aolaus> I have the codec because audacity works
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: Lurking
[01:59] <serenityUK> eric do you use gnome.. you can also mount via icon... goto places->computer and rightclick
[01:59] <musikgoat> gvsa123: did you try the nonfree version?
[01:59] <aolaus> I'm listening to dire straits on this editing program.. it's ghetto
[01:59] <sunogbaga> wols: yah, its 3com. ethernet adapter... i remember ubuntu recognizing it before I restarted
[01:59] <JeevesMoss> Jack_Sparrow:  ok, sorry, had supper in there
[01:59] <nickrud> aolaus, that's very odd, neither use the same codes
[01:59] <eric> ok im here
[01:59] <aolaus> audacity imported the ogg just fine
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: np.. I was chatting in another channel...
[01:59] <musikgoat> eric  you got it?
[01:59] <gvsa123> musikgoat: not yet. this is not normal?
[01:59] <nickrud> *codecs
[01:59] <eric> hmm
[01:59] <underdawg> how do I change my administrator password?
[02:00] <underdawg> I'm not seeing it in Site menu
[02:00] <eric> what do i need to create?
[02:00] <wols> sunogbaga: still not answering my question. it's about as useful if i said I have a realtek NIC
[02:00] <shane2peru> aolaus, ok, try shutting all sound programs off, and then try and play them?  Sometimes the other sound programs take over the sound card.
[02:00] <aolaus> perhaps I don't have the "official" ubuntu codecs
[02:00] <musikgoat> gvsa, after i installed it, it worked fine...
[02:00] <underdawg> whoops
[02:00] <aolaus> oy, ok
[02:00] <l21logan99> wols: i am the guy trying to get wireless working. I did what the wiki you showed me told me to do, but i can get the firmware files to "make installfw"
[02:00] <underdawg> wrong channel
[02:00] <Perff> wols: yep
[02:00] <JeevesMoss> Jack_Sparrow: do you have time to help me figure this Mcencoder thing?
[02:00] <aolaus> hoy, that worked
[02:00] <aolaus> thanks
[02:00] <eric> im in the computer, i right click, then what do i need to do?
[02:00] <aolaus> laters
[02:00] <gvsa123> musikgoat: oh there.... i needed the nonfree... hmmm... i wonder why
[02:00] <musikgoat> gvsa123: try just installing unrar   not unrar-free
[02:00] <serenityUK> eric there should be mount volume in the menu.. it will ask for password
[02:01] <Perff> wols: so, I try to boot my linux desktop
[02:01] <Perff> wols: and it boots into grub commandline
[02:01] <wols> Perff: either you give me the answer I asked you for, or you have to fix your problem on your own
[02:01] <aeGIs> jackster: You are too cool.
[02:01] <wols> what ahve you booted right NOW?
[02:01] <musikgoat> gvsa123: I'm not too sure why
[02:01] <jackster> aeGIs: why thankyou :)
[02:01] <gvsa123> musikgoat: oh well... whichever works... :)
[02:01] <aeGIs> jackster: no problem
[02:01] <sunogbaga> wols: not really sure what youre saying.. however lspic gave me this Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] (rev 24)... but doesn't show up in network manager
[02:01] <nickrud> Perff, translated, that means he can't help you unless he gets useful information :)
[02:01] <aeGIs> Can anyone tell me how to make Ubuntu better?
[02:02] <eric> i dont see an option to mount a drive when i right click in the window for computer...
[02:02] <serenityUK> eric are you right clicking on the drive icon?
[02:02] <jackster> aeGIs: take a time machine into the future?
[02:02] <nickrud> aeGIs, join your area's locale team, work on the wiki, work with the doc team, become a master of the universe
[02:02] <Perff> wols: and i don't know how to boot manually - all my plays with kernel command finish with kernel panic
[02:02] <Perff> wols?
[02:02] <eric> oh, for the sdb1?  it isnt showing up
[02:02] <jackster> meh, I still say go to the future
[02:02] <magnetron> aeGIs: are you saying you would like to contribute?
[02:02] <jackster> it's like the song, things can only get better :)
[02:02] <aeGIs> jackster: is there a deb for that?  apt-get ubuntu-time-machine
[02:03] <aeGIs> magnetron: No
[02:03] <eric> doesnt show an icon in the computer - file browser at all
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: ON the phone atm... that should not be hard.. wols or maybe pelo if you can catch him
[02:03] <aeGIs> I want the windows to stop being unresponsive when I open more than 4
[02:03] <JeevesMoss> Jack_Sparrow:  ok, I'm going over to the coffee shop again
[02:03] <wols_> sunogbaga: 3c59x should be it
[02:03] <wols_> Perff: I asked you how you booted right now. either you tell me or fix your stuff yourself. good day
[02:03] <musikgoat> all we want to do is eat your brains...  we're not unreasonable, we wont eat your eyes...  jonathan coulton rocks
[02:03]  * |rat| says "Save the cheerleader, save the world!"
[02:03] <l21logan99> wols: i am the guy trying to get wireless working. I did what the wiki you showed me told me to do, but i can get the firmware files to "make installfw"
[02:04] <wols_> l21logan99: there are errors
[02:04] <serenityUK> eric an empty window?  not even a CD icon and one saying filesystem?
[02:04] <aeGIs> oh, and bluetooth capabilities would be nice :)
[02:04]  * nickrud wants to be in |rat| 's movie
[02:04] <eric> i see two cd drives and a filesystem, but no second hdd icon
[02:04] <l21logan99> wols: i just cant seem to get anything to work
[02:05] <sunogbaga> wols_: how can I use it again? do i just need a reboot or something else?
[02:05] <Johnson> when i go to suspend for a long time, i log back in get an an errror message saying computer failed to "hibernate", and then the computer hibernates. any ideas how to fix this problem i have no settings on that tell my computer to hibernate it never should
[02:05] <wols_> l21logan99: you can't seem to make proper problem descriptions either
[02:05] <wols_> sunogbaga: modprobe it, if it then works put it in /etc/modules
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: me too... I worked on Attack of the Killer TOmaotes.. long ago...  can I join in..
[02:05] <h-town> hey i got a question about gparted
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> h-town: sure just ask
[02:05] <aeGIs> Sabra Hummus is awesome...  I just had the Pine Nuts version.  Tasty!
[02:06] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, absolutely, if |rat| will let us in
[02:06] <calm> Does anyone know when the Flash plugin installation will be fixed?
[02:06] <l21logan99> wols: im sorry, I went threw the steps that the bcm43xx readme siad, i extracted the firmware file then said make installfw, and the terminal said that it the command was no valid
[02:06] <h-town> i'm trying to format my vista partition, so that I can use it as a storage partition and comit my pc to ubuntu
[02:06] <aeGIs> h-town: Dearly gparted, we are gathered here today to celebrate this thing we call life...
[02:06] <sunogbaga> wols_: ok
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> calm: No idea yet...
[02:06] <nickrud> calm, that is the 64 dollar question here
[02:06] <h-town> ha, that's funny
[02:06] <musikgoat> h-town: whats wrong?
[02:06] <aeGIs> Flash would be awesome!  It blows without it.
[02:06] <bmt2> hello to all
[02:07] <h-town> i'm just getting rid of windows
[02:07] <h-town> tired of it
[02:07] <bmt2> i am tryin to install LIVES....and it says I need gtk2.0
[02:07] <KNRO> Hello, I'm trying to port a package to Ubuntu, however, I'm having problem. I already have RPM, but need to release it for deb as well, anyone experience in packaing here can help me a bit?
[02:07] <h-town> so, in gparted, i've unmounted my windows partition, when I go to format it i have options
[02:07] <musikgoat> h-town: i remember,  whats wrong with what your are doing
[02:07] <wols_> h-town: you STILL haven't told us what the problem is you're having. will you ever?
[02:07] <bmt2> i thought i did using synaptic...but the ./configure for LIVES is giving me the same error
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Flash works, but just for firefox, and you run the risk of the real fix conflicting with the current workaround
[02:07] <musikgoat> !fs
[02:07] <bmt2> can anyone help !
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <chickenFuego> eric, you have a second hard drive, but you don't see it?
[02:07] <eric> yes
[02:07] <musikgoat> !filesystem
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filesystem - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <Flannel> bmt2: Do you have build-essential installed?
[02:07]  * |rat| remember: "You cannot die McCloud, accept it!"
[02:07] <eric> correct.  its located at /dev/sdb1 according to fdisk
[02:07] <nickrud> aeGIs, run cfdisk, change the partition to Linux , then sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sd(a1?)
[02:08] <chickenFuego> eric, please type "mount" in a console and paste the output in a pastebin.
[02:08] <bmt2> Flannel: no i do not...what is build-essential ?
[02:08] <wols_> bmt2: install the gkt2.0 dev package
[02:08] <Flannel> !offtopic > |rat|
[02:08] <Flannel> !compile | bmt2
[02:08] <ubotu> bmt2: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[02:08] <h-town> well i have options for formating it, what do i select, so that it's ubuntu compatible but will be it's own partitions
[02:08] <h-town> partition
[02:08] <bmt2> wols_:can i apt-get install gtk2.0 dev package ?
[02:08] <aeGIs> jack_sp: But you don't have the functions...  like on xxxstash.com you can't make the videos go to full screen.
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> |rat|: It only takes ma an hour to get over to Hollywood/Burbank
 wols: yep
 wols: so, I try to boot my linux desktop
 wols: and it boots into grub commandline
 wols: and i don't know how to boot manually - all my plays with kernel command finish with kernel panic
 wols?
[02:08] <Flannel> bmt2: Its got gcc and all the standard libs and stuff (and then you'll need gtk as well)
[02:08] <wols_> h-town: ext3
[02:08] <musikgoat> h-town: ext3 is the most common but slow
[02:08] <wols_> bmt2: yes
[02:08] <NoorulIslaam> oh wow today's naruto is gonna be awesome :P
[02:08] <h-town> well my primary partition is already ext3
[02:08] <chickenFuego> eric: e.g. here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:08] <wols_> Perff: you are here, hence you managed to boot _somthing_
[02:08] <musikgoat> h-town: xfs is faster, but less recoverable on hard shutdowns
[02:09] <bmt2> wols_: how do i apt-get install gtk 2.0 ?
[02:09] <|rat|> Flannel: sorry...
[02:09] <wols_> bmt2: I will NOT tell people how to use gtk
[02:09] <Flannel> h-town: That doesn't matter, you can have all of them ext3 if you want
[02:09] <Perff> wols no, I'm chatting with you from windows laptop
[02:09] <wols_> erm use apt-get
[02:09] <troythetechguy> I'm running 7.10 on hp pavilion ze4125.  Computer is running slow, and I was advised to 'killall powernowd', but the command responds with, 'no process killed'.  I ran ps -aux, and the only result is 'gnome-power-manager.  Any ideas?
[02:09] <bmt2> Flannel: can i apt-get install build-essentials ?
[02:09] <wols_> Perff: use the livecd then
[02:09] <Perff> wols: i can't boot any linux
[02:09] <calm> Ah. Oh well.
[02:09] <musikgoat> build-essential
[02:09] <Perff> wols: and?
[02:09] <Flannel> bmt2: apt-get install build-essential, yes.  no "s" on the end
[02:09] <h-town> ok i understand, i was worried that ext3 was like number 3 drive and they would merge
[02:09] <wols_> Perff: use it
[02:09] <Perff> wols: livecd CAN'T boot my hard drive linux
[02:09] <Perff> wols: and?
[02:09] <musikgoat> h-town: no, that wont happen
[02:09] <wols_> Perff: it doesn't need ot. you have a linux, it can mount the harddisk, it can chroot into it
[02:09] <h-town> great, well i'm going to go for it...
[02:09] <chickenFuego> eric?
[02:10] <Perff> wols: it will just take me to the same screen with command line of grub...
[02:10] <Perff> :(
[02:10] <bmt2> okay Flannel i am doing that now..thanks
[02:10] <bmt2> you seed that it gives me gcc...but what about gtk ?
[02:10] <wols_> Perff: the livecd will NOT do this. think before you type
[02:10] <bmt2> wols_: how do i apt-get install gtk 2.0 ?
[02:10] <Perff> wols: what is "chroot"?
[02:10] <l21logan99> wols: im sorry, I went threw the steps that the bcm43xx readme said, i extracted the firmware file then said make installfw, and the terminal said that it the command was not valid
[02:10] <|rat|> sudo apt-get install gtk2?
[02:10] <wols_> Perff:  command.
[02:10] <wols_> !grub | Perff
[02:10] <ubotu> Perff: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:11] <eric> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49101/
[02:11] <eric> there ya go
[02:11] <bmt2> |rat|: is that all i have to do is : sudo apt-get install gtk2 ?
[02:11] <eric> shows both vfat and msdos
[02:11] <eric> and my fdisk -l
[02:11] <wols_> Perff: instead of running the grub-install in those howtos to install grub after you chrooted, simply run sudo update-grub and you have a menu.lst
[02:11] <Perff> wols i read all these docs, and i don't need windows
[02:11] <Perff> wols ok it looks like i need to find out what is chroot
[02:11] <wols_> Perff: but you need a menu.lst
[02:12] <wols_> chroot is a command
[02:12] <wols_> "change root" literally. changes /
[02:12] <RenatoSilva> I have Feisty and want to install Gutsy over it. Backing up my /home will work totally?
[02:12] <Perff> wols: ok i'll try now
[02:12] <musikgoat> eric, is it possible that your fat32 is corrupted?
[02:12] <wols_> RenatoSilva: upgrading will work too
[02:12] <h-town> so i have 2 ext3 partitons plus a space of about 30 gigs unallocated, how do i merge the new ext3 partition with that unallocated space?
[02:12] <RenatoSilva> I have Feisty and want to install Gutsy over it. Backing up my /home will work totally?
[02:12] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, yes
[02:12] <Perff> wols: thx
[02:12] <eric> i dont think so.  It shouldnt be.
[02:12] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, not required to backup home, but it's as good a time as any
[02:12] <|rat|> bmt2: is sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0
[02:12] <RenatoSilva> wols_: I'm in a dialed conn
[02:13] <wols_> h-town: you don't. you resize the ext3 partition to encompass the unallocated space
[02:13] <chickenFuego> eric, did you try without the -t option?
[02:13] <h-town> ah, ok thanks
[02:13] <eric> no i didnt.  ill try that now
[02:13] <wols_> RenatoSilva: you can upgrade witht he CD too
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> RenatoSilva: That is gonna take awhile..
[02:13] <l21logan99> wols:????
[02:13] <wols_> Jack_Sparrow: only if he has a 1x CD drive
[02:13] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: so I create a user with the same name and restore the /home/myuser and everything will work fine?
[02:13] <eric> that just gives me a lot of options
[02:13] <wols_> l21logan99: either you show us the errors you get or you fix your own problems. your choice
[02:13] <h-town> so if i resize it all the way it won't affect my original ubuntu partition? like in the window that pops up with a slider?
[02:13] <eric> if i dont include the -t
[02:14] <wols_> RenatoSilva: that is bass ackwards
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> wols_: No.. if he tries to upgrade with dialup
[02:14] <musikgoat> eric  mount /dev/sdb1 /media/mountpoint
[02:14] <h-town> the slider represents all my free space? or all my total hard drive?
[02:14] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, yes. If you're reinstalling completely , you should consider making a /home partition.
[02:14] <RenatoSilva> wols_: upgrade from cd? it's a new feature of gutsy don't?
[02:14] <wols_> h-town: it shouldn't affect, but if you haven't backed up your stuff it's not important anyways
[02:15] <wols_> RenatoSilva: no it's not a new feature. it always wa there. always
[02:15] <eric> it tells me i must specifiy the file system type
[02:15] <chickenFuego> eric: try "mount /dev/sdb1 /media/windows"
[02:15] <musikgoat> eric, oh well, worth a shot
[02:15] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: not necessary, I have just one user, is it possible to create a different user, restore and rename the profile?
[02:15] <l21logan99> wols: i get the error  No rule to make target `installfw'
[02:15]  * nickrud doesn't really trust the upgrade path anymore :(
[02:15] <h-town> well so far so good, thanks for the help guys
[02:15] <chickenFuego> eric: or "mount -t fat32 /dev/sdb1 /media/windows"
[02:15] <wols_> l21logan99: what howto do you use?
[02:15] <chickenFuego> eric: or "mount -t FAT32 /dev/sdb1 /media/windows"
[02:16] <gvsa123> is there a way for ubuntu to tell you when you have minimized windows in other desktops when you are logging out or shutting down or whatever
[02:16] <wols_> chickenFuego: it would be -t vfat. which he already tried
[02:16] <l21logan99> wols: it says in the bcm43xx readme that i extract the files then i use "make installfw" to properlly place them for use by the driver
[02:16] <eric> it says maybe i ment vfat
[02:16] <RenatoSilva> wols_: that's funny because I never have noticed it tough desiring it so much. It happens when analysing the partitions right?
[02:16] <wols_> eric: dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=bootsector count=1 bs=512
[02:16] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, yes, you'll have to chown the files & dirs in your home, but easily doable
[02:16] <wols_> eric: then show us the result
[02:16] <l21logan99> wols:and i get that error
[02:16] <wols_> RenatoSilva: no
[02:16] <chickenFuego> please paste the output of "mount /dev/sdb1 /media/windows", It shouldn t give options as output..
[02:17] <serenityUK> eric try the eqivilent of scandisk....   sudo fsck /dev/sdb1
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !broadcom
[02:17] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[02:17] <wols_> RenatoSilva: you do not boot from the CD ever when upgrading
[02:17] <aeGIs> don't be a hater
[02:17] <nickrud> !upgrade | RenatoSilva
[02:17] <ubotu> RenatoSilva: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:17] <wols_> RenatoSilva: you ad the CD to your sources.list and do a apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade. that's all
[02:17] <musikgoat> chickenFuego: he used no t but still added the filesystem the first time, then corrected it
[02:17] <aeGIs> !stop unresponsive windows
[02:17] <RenatoSilva> wols_: hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[02:18] <gnychis> I added myself to the "sudo" group, however when I type "sudo ______" it does nothing, it does not return me a password prompt or anything
[02:18] <eric> wols -  permission denied
[02:18] <wols_> RenatoSilva: and that's supposed to tell me what?
[02:18] <l21logan99> ubotu: if you are speaking to me then i have already checked there and there is nothing about the problems i am having
[02:18] <wols_> eric: use sudo then
[02:18] <nickrud> gnychis, ________ isn't a command ;)
[02:18] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: hummm, what about if the backup was in a NTFS partition?
[02:18] <Perff> wols:
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> ubotu is a bot
[02:18] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[02:18] <aeGIs> gynch: you have to put a command in
[02:18] <aeGIs> ubotu is a bot?
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[02:19] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, I beleive you'd need to copy it over to an ext2/3 or other linux partition
[02:19] <Perff> wols: ok now grub has a menu, but when I select any item it says "can't mount selected partition"
[02:19] <aeGIs> Oh, I didn't know ubotu is a bot
[02:19] <musikgoat> lol
[02:19] <RenatoSilva> wols_: hum means hum
[02:19] <l21logan99> wols: it says in the bcm43xx readme that i extract the files then i use "make installfw" to properlly place them for use by the driver
[02:19] <gvsa123> aeGIs: cool
[02:19] <wols_> RenatoSilva: if you want a backup, make a tarfile of what you want ot backup. you can put this easily on a ntfs drive without any problems
[02:19] <chickenFuego> eric - as far as I know, the vfat linux kernel driver can read/write fat16, but only read fat32.
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> l21logan99: Did you use fwcutter?
[02:19] <wols_> RenatoSilva: have a nice day and learn to speak properly. good bye
[02:19] <aeGIs> ntfs!
[02:19] <musikgoat> chickenFuego: i'm not sure if that is correct
[02:20] <l21logan99> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[02:20] <wols_> chickenFuego: not true
[02:20] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: otherwise what'd happen?
[02:20] <wols_> musikgoat: it isn't
[02:20] <musikgoat> vfat writes fine to fat32
[02:20] <musikgoat> ok
[02:20] <l21logan99> bcm43xx-fwcutter FILE
[02:20] <eric> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49102/
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> l21logan99: What problem are you having, all of those have worked fine for me
[02:20] <serenityUK> i use fat32 r/w
[02:20] <RenatoSilva> wols_: you too
[02:20] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, tarring is excellent advice , it stands for tape archive. Standard procedure for backups
[02:20] <gnychis> I added myself to the "sudo" group, however when I type "sudo ______" it does nothing, it does not return me a password prompt or anything
[02:20] <l21logan99> Jack_Sparrow make installfw
[02:20] <eric> there is the paste for both wols and serenities scripts
[02:21] <l21logan99> i get  No rule to make target `installfw'
[02:21] <RenatoSilva> wols_: have some sex, you need it I guess
[02:21] <neep2h> i need help on setting up wireless connection from laptop to router so i can get on teh interwebs :( can someone plz help me?
[02:21] <wols_> eric: can you put up the bootsector file somewhere
[02:21] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: good idea that of TAR
 wols: ok now grub has a menu, but when I select any item it says "can't mount selected partition"
[02:21] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: but i'm curious about what would happen
[02:21] <musikgoat> eric, fsck.vfat /dev/sdb1 ?
[02:22] <wols_> Perff: pastebin your menu.lst and your fdisk -l output
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> l21logan99: Where are you getting the request to make installfw?
[02:22] <KyleS> I'm having a weird issue
[02:22] <Perff> wols: and if I fix the script (it for somewhat stupid reason set "root (hd0,0)", it kernelpanics
[02:22] <KyleS> The following partially installed packages will be configured:
[02:22] <KyleS>   linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic
[02:22] <l21logan99> in terminal
[02:22] <KyleS> And it's failing
[02:22] <wols_> musikgoat: since it's no vfat or not recognized as such it will eithernot work or destroy data
[02:22] <eric> boot sector should be in the same paste
[02:22] <eric> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49102/
[02:22] <l21logan99> ohh the BCM43xx README
[02:22] <KyleS> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:22] <KyleS>  linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic
[02:22] <Perff> wols: ok i will
[02:22] <wols_> !paste | KyleS
[02:22] <ubotu> KyleS: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:22] <KyleS> ah...sorry
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> l21logan99: And this is the help page you are using..   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy
[02:23] <wols_> Perff: and paste ALL the output. not just parts
[02:23] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, happen? permissions and ownership isn't carried properly
[02:23] <l21logan99> yes
[02:23] <eric> yeah its at the bottom
[02:23] <musikgoat> eric, thats just the dd command
[02:23] <eric> musikgoat, i dont know what that means either
[02:23] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: my backup is already as a folder on a NTFS filesystem, I guess restoring it would let the owner as root:root or maybe the current user...
[02:23] <musikgoat> eric cat bootsector
[02:23] <l21logan99> but i got a Restricted Drivers not needed error, so i have to manualy install the firmware in terminal
[02:23] <wols_> musikgoat: bootsector is a binary file...
[02:23] <l21logan99> via the README
[02:23] <musikgoat> oh
[02:23] <eric> err, how do i show the boot sector?
[02:23] <KyleS> http://pastebin.com/d604360af
[02:23] <KyleS> sorry bout that
[02:23] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, if you haven't started the upgrade/install yet, redo it as a tar.
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> l21logan99: what did you put into term that generated the error
[02:24] <l21logan99> make installfw
[02:24] <wols_> eric: that is the problem :(
[02:24] <wols_> info ht
[02:24] <l21logan99> right after the extraction completed
[02:24] <wols_> !info ht
[02:24] <ubotu> ht: Viewer/editor/analyser (mostly) for executables. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.3-2 (gutsy), package size 570 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[02:24] <eric> im lost hehe... what is the problem?
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> l21logan99: sudo aptitude install bcm43xx-fwcutter           that worked or not
[02:24] <eric> no boot sector?
[02:25] <eric> bad boot secotr?
[02:25] <wols_> eric: install ht
[02:25] <l21logan99> i didnt do that
[02:25] <eric> ht?
[02:25] <wols_> eric: the bootsector can help us to see if it's actually a FAT drive
[02:25] <l21logan99> was never told to
[02:25] <wols_> eric: yes ht
[02:25] <eric> ah ok
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> l21logan99: that is step one on the page I just linked
[02:25] <eric> i dont know what that is =/
[02:25] <wols_> eric:  package. as I said: install ht
[02:25] <young> is it normal when system booting beeps once, I am using a laptop T43
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> l21logan99: sudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh              is step 2
[02:26] <wundaboy> has anyone had trouble upgrading 7.04 to 7.10 with the update manager?
[02:26] <l21logan99> i do not have any internet
[02:26] <l21logan99> that is for an online install
[02:26] <musikgoat> eric, looks like you have to install tex4ht
[02:26] <gvsa123> what's the command to see the devices connected if you forgot the /dev/xxx so you can mount for example.
[02:27] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: anotehr question: at job, the upgrade doesn't work. After downloading the upgrade tool, it tells me there was a fault regarding PGP authentication or something like this...
[02:27] <wundaboy> im having trouble having it automatically download
[02:27] <eric> ok
[02:27] <serenityUK> gvsa123: sudo fdisk -l
[02:27] <eric> im getting those packages now
[02:27] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, try sudo aptitide update , then run the upgrade again
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> YOu can download on another machine and copy those files over.
[02:27] <serenityUK> gvsa123: that's l for larry
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> l21logan99:
[02:27] <wols_> nickrud: why would aptitude install gpg keys?
[02:27] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, if you get the same error, paste it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:27] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: what does this command do?
[02:28] <KyleS> http://pastebin.com/d604360af <---any suggestions with that? :(
[02:28] <nickrud> wols_, if his sources hasn't been read recently, they're marked as unauthenticated
[02:28] <XPertKnobTwiddlr> is there a quick guide somewhere for setting up distcc on ubuntu?
[02:28] <chickenFuego> "ht - Viewer/editor/analyser (mostly) for executables" I am curious now..
[02:28] <gvsa123> serenityUK: this is the same for devices that are not storage?
[02:28] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: I'm going back to job only next year
[02:28] <musikgoat> man, that is alot of dependancies for a text editor
[02:28] <l21logan99> Jack_Sparrow: you were saying something?
[02:29] <musikgoat> !info tex4ht
[02:29] <ubotu> tex4ht: LaTeX and TeX for Hypertext (HTML) - executables. In component main, is optional. Version 20070717-2 (gutsy), package size 173 kB, installed size 916 kB
[02:29] <NotSoGutsy> anybody good with QT ?  #qt isn't respoding
[02:29] <eric> ht is installed, im getting tex4ht now
[02:29] <gvsa123> serenityUK: like webcams, etc...
[02:29] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, updates your sources, clears the most common authentication error
[02:29] <NotSoGutsy> I'm trying to compile a program, it's throwing a lot of errors, and I'm not sure why
[02:29] <wols_> eric: why? that's not needed
[02:29] <kyu_flux> wols: got it - vista guest account wasn't enabled
[02:29] <eric> oh
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> l21logan99: HAve you put a copy of bcm43xx-fwcutter   on that system
[02:29] <kyu_flux> wols_: thanks for helping me out
[02:29] <eric> um.. alright
[02:29] <wols_> eric: hte bootsector    paste the output of that
[02:29] <mackarill> my firefox stops responding when i go on youtube
[02:29] <chickenFuego> NotSoGutsy, you might need to do a "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[02:29] <l21logan99> Jack_Sparrow: yes via the link in that link
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> mackarill: Flash is broken
[02:30] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: my sources were updated through synaptic, and all feisty updates was applied as well
[02:30] <NotSoGutsy> chickenFuego :: already done
[02:30] <f_0_0> anyone able to get their usb camcorder to work
[02:30] <l21logan99> Jack_Sparrow: i dont thing you understand, the extraction worked, the install wont
[02:30] <Arsenic> Hi there!  I'm trying to install a perl script that is requires some Perl Modules.  One of the module is List::MoreUtils version 0.22 and I have v 0.21.  When trying to install the latest version through 'perl -MCPAN -e 'shell' ' it tells me that I have the latest version...
[02:30] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, then show the error on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:30] <eric> whoah, it put me in this blue screen with lots of zeros... how do i not break this?
[02:30] <serenityUK> gvsa123: there are a few different commands...   lspci   and  lsusb    will list  pci and usb devices... use -v for more detail
[02:30] <gvsa123> serenityUK: lsusb!... i remembered now...
[02:30] <chickenFuego> NotSoGutsy, can you paste your compilation errors msg?
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> what about a copy of wl_apsta-<IP_ADDRESS>.o
[02:30] <NotSoGutsy> chickenFuego :: it throws a lot of errors, mostly ones like "error: invalid use of undefined type ‘struct <name>’" or "error: ‘<name>’ was not declared in this scope"
[02:30] <baudolino> hey all - I've somehow borked my ubuntu installation which now boots to a text console login rather than into X, anyone have any ideas of settings that I may have somehow screwed up that could cause this to happen?
[02:30] <wols_> l21logan99: what firmware binary did you get from the extraction? and where did you copy it?
[02:31] <baudolino> if I log in and startx all is fine, X just doesn't start at boot
[02:31] <wols_> baudolino: your xorg settings
[02:31] <gvsa123> serenityUK: yeah... i just couldn't remember... should have a notebook for this....
[02:31] <wols_> baudolino: that is the S99gdm symlink
[02:31] <l21logan99> wols: i used wl_apsta-<IP_ADDRESS>.o which was on my home desktop
[02:31] <eric> and how do i copy and paste this stuff?
[02:31] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: regarding this I've noticed that always when updating package list it shows me an alert about unauthenticated sources
[02:31] <l21logan99> wols: i got it cia a link on the wiki
[02:31] <nickrud> baudolino, if you run sudo invoke-rc.d gdm at the console, do you get the graphical login screen?
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> l21logan99: or just wl_apsta_o
[02:31] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: I'll verify it later
[02:31] <wols_> l21logan99: was that file created by the extraction?
[02:31] <chickenFuego> NotSoGutsy, some missing libraries? paste it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:31] <serenityUK> gvsa123: use -v  for verbose...   yes  I use google notebook to write these down.. can acess form any pc with a browser lol
[02:31] <l21logan99> wols:no
[02:31] <musikgoat> eric, i'm trying to see if i can get any output,  wols_ do you have experience with ht?
[02:31] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, yeah, that's the error I'm talking about.
[02:31] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: thank you very much for everything
[02:31] <wols_> l21logan99: what file DID you get from extraction?
[02:31] <Arsenic> How can know which CPAN mirror i'm getting my perl packages from?
[02:32] <gvsa123> serenityUK: so is there a command to list down all commands?
[02:32] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, and that is _upgrading_ , not updating. Two different actions
[02:32] <eric> im very new to this whole linux thing so im just trying to understand exactly what i need to do.
[02:32] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: do you know the download size for an upgrade?
[02:32] <l21logan99> wols: a variety of bcm43xx*.fw files in the .tmp folder
[02:32] <finchx6> will someone please help me get my sound working in gutsy?
[02:32] <h-town> resizing a partition sure take a long time
[02:32] <wols_> l21logan99: you need to copy one of them to /lib/firmware. possibly all of them
[02:32] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, depends on how much stuff you installed from the net. could be as little as 700mb , or more than 2
[02:33] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: yeah, i've *updated* feisty before trying to *upgrade* to gutsy
[02:33] <serenityUK> gvsa123: there are too many..   try info xxx   if looking for something... .    also  sudo lshw  is big list of all dectected hardware.. even memory etc
[02:33] <musikgoat> eric, i've never read a bootsector before, so i'm trying along with you, but i don't know the syntax for ht
[02:33] <eric> got it
[02:33] <wundaboy> this is what i get when i try to upgrade: http://pastebin.ca/826261
[02:33] <wundaboy> how do i fix it?
[02:33] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, and you got authentication errors? Reminds me, you should disable any non-ubuntu repos before you upgrade
[02:33] <troythetechguy> I'm running 7.10 on hp pavilion ze4125.  Computer is running slow, and I was advised to 'killall powernowd', but the command responds with, 'no process killed'.  I ran ps -aux | grep, and the only result is 'gnome-power-manager.  Any ideas?
[02:33] <baudolino> nickrud, it would be kdm i guess since im trying to fire up kde at this stage but kk I'll give that a shot, ty :)
[02:33] <wols_> eric: pastebin the output of hte now
[02:33] <serenityUK> gvsa123:   sudo  lshw    is  the daddy
[02:34] <l21logan99> wols: i did copy them all but it didnt work, the README said it needs to be in FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR
[02:34] <eric> how do i copy the output?
[02:34] <l21logan99> inlib/firmware
[02:34] <serenityUK> gvsa123:   (list hardware)
[02:34] <gvsa123> serenityUK:  i see.... i'd better go google for basic linux commands.... any manual you might want to recommend... will try those out
[02:34] <eric> its in some wierd window
[02:34] <baudolino> wols_, there is a s99kdm symlink, its pointing to /etc/init.d/kdm like I'm guessing its meant to
[02:34] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: al least a CD-like? Well, it's a bad idea trying to do it on dialed connection rs
[02:34] <l21logan99> wols: "After extraction, run make installfw which will copy bcm43xx_*.fw to
[02:34] <l21logan99> FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR (which defaults to /lib/firmware) for
[02:34] <l21logan99> usage by the bcm43xx driver. "
[02:34] <l21logan99> After extraction, run make installfw which will copy bcm43xx_*.fw to
[02:34] <l21logan99> FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR (which defaults to /lib/firmware) for
[02:34] <l21logan99> usage by the bcm43xx driver. An alternative way is using the -w option.
[02:34] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: hummmmmmm :)
[02:34] <wols_> l21logan99: yes in /lib/firmware. then you modprobe -r your bcm43xx and modprobe it again to load it. then you should have an interface for it which you can configure
[02:34] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, oh, yes you are absolutely correct. Unless you're willing to let it run all night for a a while :)
[02:34] <bascule> gvsa123: linuxcommand.org
[02:35] <gvsa123> bascule: thanks.
[02:35] <wols_> l21logan99: do NOT paste in here!
[02:35] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: in fact I think there is non-ubuntu repos...I'll try it next year, thank you!!!
[02:35] <l21logan99> wols: so how do i mobprobe
[02:35] <nickrud> l21logan99, did you run that as sudo make installfw ?
[02:35] <wols_> l21logan99: modprobe
[02:35] <l21logan99> nickrud: yes
[02:36] <nickrud> bummer, thought I had fought thru the thicket
[02:36] <gvsa123> serenityUK: i like this... lshw.... lol
[02:36] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: a night is not enough, maybe a month rs...
[02:36] <aeGIs> Would you like an apple pie with that?  Ding fries are done....
[02:36] <l21logan99> wols: yes, but you said to mobprobe -r your bcm43xx, what did you mean by "your bcm43xx"
[02:36] <DIL> how can i tell which version of Ubuntu is installed on a computer?
[02:37] <NotSoGutsy> chickenFuego :: sorry that took so long: http://pastebin.ca/826268
[02:37] <wols_> I said modprobe. read more carefully. your bcm43xx which is currently loaded but won't work
[02:37] <nickrud> DIL, lsb_release -a  in a terminal
[02:37] <eric> hmm... it is telling me it cant load the configuration file and then it says it is loading a default
[02:37] <DIL> ty
[02:37] <aeGIs> dil: system > about
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> musikgoat: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_Boot_Record   fyi
[02:37] <wols_> eric: where is the paste of the htw output?
[02:37] <KyleS> nvm~
[02:37] <KyleS> figured it out
[02:37] <baudolino> nickrud, just tried sudo invoke-rc.d kdm start, telling me its not the default display manager (although /etc/default-display-manager tells a different story)
[02:37] <Billy_> guys ....... while running ubuntu 7.10 with compiz enabled I sometimes at the top window bar of firfox missing. the minimize, maxime & close button are missing, when I hover my mouse over they come back. Is there any solution ?
[02:37] <DIL> ty
[02:37] <serenityUK> gvsa123: sorry i looked through my bookmarks cant find the cheatsheet...  there are tutorials I just lost them lol...  I use www.ubuntuforums.org for most things
[02:37] <musikgoat> Jack_Sparrow: thanks