[08:39] <furesta> Hi all, I have a problem with the update-manager after upgrading to edgy, it gives the following message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29589/ , and it shows the available upgrades, but it doesn't upgrade anything! And I can also run it along with synaptic with no warning, strange, huh? Any ideas?
[08:39] <ashzilla> soundray: sounds good. Will a complete removal via Synpatic be the same as a purge with apt-get?
[08:39] <Thib_> soundray: (among other settings). Wouldn't that work, then?
[08:39] <morgue> Ratzilla, do i have to open firefox from the terminal?
[08:39] <Ratzilla> morgue: yes
[08:39] <RasmusseN> I'll be getting a new system pretty soon should I have any problems with the 975X chipset? X1900XT?
[08:39] <morgue> Ratzilla, ok sorry then, how do i do that? :)
[08:39] <Ratzilla> morgue: type firefox in the terminal
[08:39] <soundray> Thib_: how about HIBERNATE_MODE?
[08:40] <RasmusseN> Ratzilla: I am 50%
[08:40] <morgue> got it
[08:40] <morgue> Ok here's what I get:
[08:40] <morgue> The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.
[08:40] <morgue> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[08:40] <morgue> The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.
[08:40] <morgue>   (Details: serial 118 error_code 8 request_code 146 minor_code 3)
[08:40] <morgue>   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
[08:40] <morgue>    that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
[08:40] <morgue>    To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
[08:40] <looksaus> is it possible to install edgy on a machine with an internet connection and only the Dapper CD
[08:40] <morgue>    option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
[08:40] <morgue>    backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
[08:41] <cynical> looksaus: yes, just run "gksu update-manager -c"
[08:41] <cuu508> hi, is it possible to get lilo installed on a clean edgy? grub doesn't work for my old SATA, lilo does, but I can't figure out how to set it up from livecd (got debs from 5.06 CD)
[08:41] <Thib_> soundray: there is no HIBERNATE_MODE setting that I can find from grep'ping.
[08:41] <RasmusseN> morgue: The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error?
[08:41] <looksaus> cynical: I would like to make a virgin edgy install
[08:41] <Ratzilla> RasmusseN: im on a university connection lol so its going at 650kb/s and theere isnt that many ATI drivers out there so i think you gotta google around to see if people have been able to run that graphics card properly on ubuntu..
[08:41] <morgue> RasmusseN, I have no idea, I'm a noob :)
[08:41] <Thib_> soundray: oops, sorry, I misspelled the grep string
[08:41] <cynical> looksaus: thats not possible without the edgy cd :\
[08:42] <Thib_> soundray: HIBERNATE_MODE=shutdown
[08:42] <encarni> hola
[08:42] <RasmusseN> morgue: I am at linux too...
[08:42] <soundray> Thib_: try changing that to platform
[08:42] <encarni> heloow
[08:42] <blind> I had my webcam running in `webcam` and i killed it, and went to use it in something else, and it said there was nothing there. so unplug/replug, the light on it isn't coming on, and the computer doesn't see it... wtf?
[08:42] <morgue> Raskall, any clue of what's happening?
[08:42] <rod__> does edgy come with a grapical tool to mount drives which are not in fstab?
[08:43] <looksaus> cynical, unless you play some very exciting bootstrapping game maybe
[08:43] <cynical> rod__: do you mean like usb drives? they are mounted automatically
[08:43] <RasmusseN> If i get ubuntu installed will it be hard to put xgl on it?
[08:43] <Ratzilla> morgue: did you upgrade distro or anythign recently?
[08:43] <VitoGirl> just installed kubuntu 6.06.1 and trying to install tcl8.4 and i got these problems : checking for gcc no , checking for cc no ,checking compression for manpages no,checking whether to use sumlinks for manpages no any help please
[08:43] <rod__> cycom, its actually sda1
[08:43] <NetVamp> How can I have a partition auto mount on startup? fstab doesn't seem to have worked, the mountpoint doesnt exist, a double click on the partition says only root can mount it. I guess it doesn't auto mount if I log in with a regular non-root user, right? Any way to change that? And second question, is there a way to auto login on startup?
[08:44] <Ratzilla> RasmusseN: xgl has easy instructions to follow for installation in the ubuntu wiki
[08:44] <morgue> Ratzilla, yeah, last night upgraded from 6.06 to 6.10
[08:44] <dv_> does anyone here actually have beryl and the beta nvidia drivers running?
[08:44] <gouki> RasmusseN - No. There are literally, hundreds of step-by-step guides on how to install Compiz
[08:44] <rod__> cynical, i think at install moment i didnt select it to be mounted as anything
[08:44] <morgue> Ratzilla, but it was crasing even before that
[08:44] <RasmusseN> Ratzilla: Nice
[08:44] <cynical> looksaus: I mean I know it can be done, but if you are asking on irc then it would be very hard for you
[08:44] <RasmusseN> gouki: wha tis compiz
[08:44] <Ratzilla> morgue: via apt-get or aptitude?
[08:44] <furesta> Hi all, I have a problem with the update-manager after upgrading to edgy, it gives the following message when running from terminal: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29589/ , and it shows the available upgrades, but it doesn't upgrade anything! And I can also run it along with synaptic with no warning, strange, huh? Any ideas?
[08:44] <ryjax> i'm curious, anyone ever put ubuntu on an xbox?
[08:44] <looksaus> cynical: dont underestimate my knowledge
[08:44] <gouki> RasmusseN - Compiz is (was) XGL
[08:45] <soundray> blind: sounds like a broken webcam
[08:45] <xamox> what firewall does everyone suggest using for ubuntu?
[08:45] <cuu508> hi, is it possible to get lilo installed on a clean edgy? grub doesn't work for my old SATA, lilo does, but I can't figure out how to set it up from livecd (got debs from 5.04 CD)
[08:45] <blind> soundray: it's not broken, it was just working.
[08:45] <cynical> gouki: no its not, compiz is a compositing manager
[08:45] <theo_> PSUSI: mate in step 1 here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575 and line 5 I got this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29591/
[08:45] <morgue> Ratzilla,  I used gksu "update-manager -c"
[08:45] <looksaus> I have done similar things the hard way before
[08:45] <nolimitsoya> xamox, iptables, set up with firestarter
[08:45] <cynical> looksaus: I'm just saying, it wouldnt be easy
[08:45] <VitoGirl> just installed kubuntu 6.06.1 and trying to install tcl8.4 and i got these problems : checking for gcc no , checking for cc no ,checking compression for manpages no,checking whether to use sumlinks for manpages no any help please
[08:45] <coz_> Amaranth, i see the numbers hae not reduced!
[08:45] <RasmusseN> gouki: o okay, sorry I am a linux n00b.
[08:45] <chad> is there a partition app in ubuntu? i dont seem to find one... wanted somthing similar to partitionmagic..etc
[08:45] <looksaus> but I wondered if there would be an easier way..
[08:45] <zugu> hi guys
[08:45] <xamox> nolimitsoya:  is firestart console based?
[08:45] <cuu508> chad - gparted
[08:45] <Admiral_Chicago> !lilo > cuu508
[08:45] <soundray> blind: plugged direct into computer or into a hub?
[08:45] <looksaus> cynical: thx anyway for your help
[08:45] <cynical> chad: install gparted
[08:45] <chad> kk
[08:45] <nolimitsoya> VitoGirl, apt-get install build-essential
[08:45] <blind> soundray: tried both :\
[08:45] <nolimitsoya> xamox, no, its gtk
[08:46] <dommie> can gparted resize partitions without destroying the data?
[08:46] <theo_> PSUSI: keep always in mind that all I want is to "simply" run World of Warcraft using crossover standard beta in my 64 bit Ubuntu installation
[08:46] <Ratzilla> morgue: updating distro versions usually gives unstability..i'd recommend a clean install of edgy...
[08:46] <RasmusseN> Ratzilla: your jealous of my cable internet 3mmbps/256kbps
[08:46] <nolimitsoya> dommie, yes
[08:46] <cynical> dommie: yes, but theres always a chance
[08:46] <xamox> nolimitsoya:  iptables is CLI, correct?
[08:46] <soundray> blind: does it show up with lsusb?
[08:46] <blind> soundray: lsusb hangs.
[08:46] <nolimitsoya> xamox, firestarter is a gtk frontend
[08:46] <zugu> i'm on the live cd right now, how do I mount my /dev/hda1 partition? It's ext3
[08:46] <scifix> how would one go about parsing html, to extract the dvd ratings for every title reviewed?
[08:46] <dommie> any other OSS partitioning tools for doing so?
[08:46] <coz_> dafart, I like the nic
[08:46] <rod__> cynical, i think at install moment i didnt select it to be mounted as anything
[08:46] <morgue> Ratzilla, firefox was crashing even before that, I don't think that had to do with it
[08:46] <cynical> rod__: oh you mean your windows partition?
[08:46] <xamox> nolimitsoya:  Yeah, gotcha and iptables is Command Line Interface (CLI)?
[08:46] <soundray> blind: your USB hardware is hanging. Try a cold reboot.
[08:46] <RasmusseN> morgue: did it crash on the previous version of firefox?
[08:47] <Flats> I setup Samba and nwo I downloaede SWAT and installed it. Whaen I try to bring up the http://localhost:901. I get a Forbidden message and chek your hosts allow and hosts deny options. My hosts allow = 127. 192.168.0. Is something there wrong?
[08:47] <blind> soundray: it'll have to wait... lmao
[08:47] <rod__> cynical, no that one is mounted properly hehe... I mean an ext2 drive with data
[08:47] <poquedoraqu> Hey everyone... im completely new to Ubuntu and im having issues installing it. I have kind of a complicated setup :/
[08:47] <morgue> RasmusseN, I just realized it's crashing on every site that has flash :o
[08:47] <nolimitsoya> xamox, you never have to worry about that, but yes, iptables would normaly be set upmanualy through textfile editing
[08:47] <furesta> Hi all, I have a problem with the update-manager after upgrading to edgy, it gives the following message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29589/ , and it shows the available upgrades, but it doesn't upgrade anything! And I can also run it along with synaptic with no warning, strange, huh? Any ideas?
[08:47] <zugu> poquedoraqu: please describe your problem
[08:47] <RasmusseN> must be a problem with flash i guess than
[08:47] <cynical> rod__: I don't believe there is a graphical tool for it, but its pretty easy to do in fstab
[08:47] <morgue> how do i uninstall it? so i can install it again
[08:47] <xamox> nolimitsoya:  Well the firewall will be running on ubuntu server, so I need it to be command line.
[08:48] <nolimitsoya> !iptables > xamox
[08:48] <morgue> that might solve the problem
[08:48] <poquedoraqu> I have an external harddrive which i can successfully install ubuntu to, no problem. My internal HD already has winxp on it, and i can dual boot. the problem comes in the way I partition....
[08:48] <cynical> rod__: it would just be some thing like "/dev/hda1  /mnt/drive  ext2  defaults"
[08:48] <RasmusseN> morgue: I don't know about for linux
[08:48] <xamox> nolimitsoya:  awesome, thx!
[08:48] <nolimitsoya> np
[08:49] <cynical> rod__: and then you can type "sudo umount -a" and "sudo mount -a" to mount it without rebooting
[08:49] <scifix> how would one go about parsing html, to extract the dvd ratings for every title reviewed?
[08:49] <RasmusseN> can anyone tell morgue how to unistall firefox 2.0?
[08:49] <zugu> how can I mount my /dev/hda1 partition? I'm on the livecd right now
[08:49] <poquedoraqu> I partitioned linux in a 10gig ext3 but left 115 gigs in a fat32 so that both windows and linux can access it
[08:49] <poquedoraqu> but i cant make links on my linux desktop to anything in the FAT32 area, which is problematic
[08:49] <rich_> ok this is very frustrating I have in my xorg.conf under the monitor section my specifications for refresh rates and i am still at 1600X1200 50hz  Can anyone gimme a hand with this?
[08:49] <RasmusseN> poquedoraqu: you should use NFTS for windows
[08:49] <soundray> !fat32 | poquedoraqu
[08:49] <ubotu> poquedoraqu: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:49] <X5-452> I'm mounting a TrueCrypt unit in /mnt, but there since I'm not the owner I can't create files withouth using "sudo". And I can't change the owner with chown neither. Does anybody know what could I do?
[08:50] <cynical> zugu: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows
[08:50] <Sixer> where do I start installing fbdev in ubuntu 6.10 desktop?
[08:50] <chad> now.. to add new partition to home
[08:50] <zugu> cynical: it's a ubuntu partition
[08:50] <cynical> zugu: of course typing "sudo mkdir /mnt/windows" before hand
[08:50] <Ratzilla> if you want to write to windows partitions while in ubuntu, you'll have to use fat32 for windows
[08:50] <soundray> RasmusseN: no, not if he wants to share between Windows and Linux (poquedoraqu)
[08:50] <nolimitsoya> X5-452, chown -r
[08:50] <cuu508> hi, is it possible to get lilo installed on a clean edgy? grub doesn't work for my old SATA, lilo does, but I can't figure out how to set it up from livecd (got debs from 5.04 CD)
[08:50] <cynical> zugu: ah, what filesystem?
[08:50] <dv_> Ratzilla, what about ntfs-3g?
[08:50] <zugu> cynical: the default filesystem ubuntu creates when installing
[08:50] <poquedoraqu> Right i want them to access the same files
[08:50] <Flats> How do I staop and start samba?
[08:51] <Flats> err stop and start
[08:51] <zugu> cynical: it's the /home partition of my previous dapper install
[08:51] <cynical> zugu: ok then, mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubuntu
[08:51] <morgue> let me try with synaptic
[08:51] <Ratzilla> dv_: never used it before o.O
[08:51] <zugu> cynical: thank you
[08:51] <cynical> zugu: sure, are you installing over it or something?
[08:51] <poquedoraqu> So its correct to set up my external HD with 10 gig for linux, 500 meg swap, 115 gig fat32 free space?
[08:51] <dv_> Ratzilla, http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=23836054&forum_id=2697
[08:52] <cynical> zugu: if so you dont even have to mount it you can just specify the mount point in the installer
[08:52] <RasmusseN> Ratzilla: can't you use a program like partition magic? to create the partion than install linux witht he partion you've made?
[08:52] <zugu> cynical: I want to preserve some of my files, but not the congig files
[08:52] <cynical> zugu: ah ok :D
[08:52] <zugu> *config
[08:52] <poquedoraqu> Partitioning is easy, i do that from my boot cd
[08:52] <morgue> everything that has flash is crashing now :(
[08:52] <LjL> RasmusseN, Ratzilla: what's wrong with using GParted that's on the Ubuntu CD?
[08:52] <reddragon3668> how can I stop alsa manually? also, is there a file that tells whick modules to load in what order?
[08:52] <poquedoraqu> right
[08:52] <acidt> any1 knows solution to E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:52] <cynical> morgue: you need to reinstall flash?
[08:52] <X5-452> nolimitsoya, it get this error: "chown: changing ownership of `/mnt/new/': Operation not permitted"
[08:52] <soundray> poquedoraqu: sounds okay to me.
[08:52] <poquedoraqu> i just dont get why i cant make shortcuts to thing s in Fat32... it says "error - wrong file system"
[08:53] <znejk> Helo
[08:53] <morgue> cynical, how do i remove it first?
[08:53] <Flats> I setup Samba and nwo I downloaede SWAT and installed it. Whaen I try to bring up the http://localhost:901. I get a Forbidden message and chek your hosts allow and hosts deny options. My hosts allow = 127. 192.168.0. Is something there wrong?
[08:53] <X5-452> and I'm using sudo..
[08:53] <poquedoraqu> All i want is links on my desktop the same way youd do them in windows, giving you quick access to frequently used files
[08:53] <azureal> X5-452, maybe fstab doesnt like you =P
[08:53] <X5-452> he hates me, sure
[08:53] <cynical> morgue: sudo rm /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[08:53] <soundray> poquedoraqu: Linux-style softlinks aren't supported in fat. You could make the partition ext3 and install a ext2 filesystem driver for Windows.
[08:53] <X5-452> i'll take a look
[08:53] <Ratzilla> RasmusseN: using linux to partition your drives will save you hours, it literally takes minutes for linux to partition your drives when you're installing
[08:53] <azureal> /mnt/new appears in fstab?
[08:54] <X5-452> it's a TrueCrypt unit, should I add it manually?
[08:54] <poquedoraqu> Oh they have those?
[08:54] <poquedoraqu> You can make windows read ext3?
[08:54] <azureal> idk, that's beyond me
[08:54] <morgue> cynical, morgue@morgue-laptop:~$ sudo rm /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[08:54] <morgue> rm: cannot remove `/usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so': No such file or directory
[08:54] <LjL> poquedoraqu: yes you can
[08:54] <cynical> morgue: do you have firefox installed in a non standard directory?
[08:54] <poquedoraqu> Wow that would be great! then i could have linux on one giant patrition
[08:54] <azureal> i'm curious why people recommend dist-upgrade over upgrade
[08:55] <jrib> !ext3 | poquedoraqu
[08:55] <cynical> morgue: like /opt?
[08:55] <ubotu> poquedoraqu: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[08:55] <poquedoraqu> that solves everything!
[08:55] <LjL> jrib: is that factoid new?
[08:55] <RasmusseN> Ratzilla: I can keep my Windows Partion NFTS though right? than Linux will be FAT32?
[08:55] <poquedoraqu> thanks :D
[08:55] <jrib> LjL: not too recent, been there for a ocuple of weeks at least
[08:55] <znejk> anyone got a tip howto install ubuntu on a laptop withoit cd or floppy
[08:55] <morgue> cynical, I don't think so, how can I check?
[08:55] <LjL> RasmusseN: linux certainly should *not* be installed on a fAT32 partition
[08:55] <LjL> jrib: well, never hit it. good to know
[08:55] <Ratzilla> RasmusseN: uh...you'd probably want to use reiserfs for linux
[08:55] <soundray> poquedoraqu: I would still recommend separate data and system partitions
[08:55] <cynical> morgue: type "locate firefox" and see what directories its installed in
[08:56] <soundray> poquedoraqu: you can have your /home on the data partition
[08:56] <LjL> RasmusseN: or ext3, which is the default choice in Ubuntu anyway
[08:56] <perforator> Hello, I hear the input from my microphone in my headphone (soundcard: SB live 5.1). Whats the problem?
[08:56] <azureal> cynical, locate?  why not just whereis?
[08:56] <poquedoraqu> how does /home work
[08:56] <RasmusseN> Ratzilla: What is reiserfs and ext3?
[08:56] <LjL> perforator: ... that you have the microphone passthru-switch enabled in your mixer?
[08:56] <chad> im trying to add a new partition to my /home:
[08:56] <chad> cp: cannot overwrite non-directory `/dev/sda8' with directory `/home/'
[08:56] <chad> chad@nix-box:~$ sudo cp -Rp /home  /dev/sda8
[08:56] <cynical> azureal: that works too
[08:56] <Lars_G> herp
[08:56] <Lars_G> herp
[08:56] <Ratzilla> RasmusseN: different file systems, you dont want ot use FAT32 for linux...
[08:56] <LjL> RasmusseN: they're two filesystems that are often used with Linux
[08:56] <chad> what gives?
[08:56] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell chad about paste
[08:57] <soundray> perforator: that's normal. Mute the microphone in alsamixer.
[08:57] <LjL> Lars_G: sorry?
[08:57] <Ratzilla> chad: you have to use sudo or su
[08:57] <Lars_G> is therr no mirrorselect-apt shet (yet) for ubuntu that uses ubuntu mirrorlists and distro names?
[08:57] <cynical> azureal: and displays more relevant output, lol thanks for the tip
[08:57] <chad> i did
[08:57] <azureal> cynical, np, always go for the simple + concise =)
[08:57] <LjL> Lars_G: i haven't understood what you said
[08:57] <RasmusseN> Ratzilla, LjL: what fiel system should i use than?
[08:57] <RasmusseN> file*
[08:57] <TeemuR> i'm using dapper how can i update my firefox 1.5.7 to 2.0?
[08:57] <LjL> RasmusseN: i suggest ext3, since it's robust and the Ubuntu default.
[08:58] <Lars_G> LjL: mirrorselect-apt last time I tried still used debian mirrorlists and distro names. is there no ubuntu version yet?
[08:58] <cynical> morgue: did you install it from the repository?
[08:58] <morgue> cynical, I do get /opt/firefox/ also /usr/lib/firefox/c
[08:58] <chad> i used:  sudo cp -Rp /home/ /dev/sda8
[08:58] <Ratzilla> RasmusseN: ext3 is good, i personally like ReiserFS
[08:58] <poquedoraqu> Problem with having a seperate data partition: I cant INSTALL to it can i?
[08:58] <Ratzilla> chad: what are you trying ot do? copy your home directory to a different disk?
[08:58] <poquedoraqu> linux auto-installs to its own drive
[08:58] <cynical> morgue: ok then you want this command, sudo rm /opt/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[08:58] <Lars_G> Linux knows directories, not drives
[08:58] <RasmusseN> Ratzilla: whats the difference between the two?
[08:58] <Flamekebab> Anyone know how to fix the flash-crash error in Edgy in Flock?
[08:59] <chad> yes.. that or just add a new partition to /home if that is possible
[08:59] <soundray> poquedoraqu: why would you want to install to a data partition?
[08:59] <poquedoraqu> because i might run out of space on linux's own?
[08:59] <poquedoraqu> or should i give it more than 10gigs then
[08:59] <RasmusseN> Ratzilla: whoops my install is ready
[08:59] <Sixer> is vesafb enabled/supported/ready by default in Ubuntu desktop?
[08:59] <LjL> RasmusseN: ext3 is a journalled extension of ext2, an older filesystem. RaiserFS is a journalled filesystem made from scratch.
[08:59] <RasmusseN> Ratzilla: well done downloading
[08:59] <Ratzilla> chad: then you have to mount the disk to your home directory
[08:59] <morgue> cynical, morgue@morgue-laptop:~$ sudo rm /opt/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[08:59] <morgue> rm: cannot remove `/opt/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so': No such file or directory
[08:59] <chad> ./home is low on diskspace :P
[09:00] <morgue> the directory is there but there's no libflashplayer
[09:00] <Ratzilla> RasmusseN: i dont have a cd to burn it on to to install edgy :( so i gotta wait till i get home
[09:00] <perforator> k it was called AC97 in alsamixer
[09:00] <chad> ok so just mount it to /home?
[09:00] <ashzilla> How can I reinstall the file default file that comes with Ubuntu .bashrc
[09:00] <cynical> morgue: hmm, its almost as if you dont have it installed :P
[09:00] <LjL> Lars_G: apparently still debian only
[09:00] <soundray> poquedoraqu: it'll be a while until you run out of space on 10GB. Do you know how to mount a data partition in ubuntu?
[09:00] <Lars_G> LjL: sigh, thanks anyhow.
[09:00] <Ratzilla> morgue: no / at the beginning
[09:00] <Lars_G> thanks for testing LjL
[09:00] <azureal> does anyone know why a dist-upgrade would cause weird glibc (at least it seems it is glibc) errors when starting xterm?
[09:00] <RasmusseN> LjL: so which one should I use?
[09:00] <cynical> morgue: follow this to install flash player 9, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=284725
[09:00] <Ratzilla> RasmusseN: use ext3, thats linux default
[09:00] <poquedoraqu> Not exactly :/
[09:01] <RasmusseN> Ratzilla: Sucks for you :-P lol i'll probbaly run into problems installing ubuntu on my system now
[09:01] <LjL> RasmusseN, are we running in circles? i suggested ext3. ReiserFS is another choice that other people prefer.
[09:01] <azureal> I feel like i shouldve done an 'upgrade' rather than 'dist-upgrade' and now not sure how to fix this glibc prob
[09:01] <Lars_G> azureal: possibly because you haven't upgraded xterm yet and it's compiled against the older glibc
[09:01] <Ratzilla> RasmusseN: reiserfs is supposed to be better with small files under a few kilobytes but ext3 is still good
[09:01] <spawn> Can I install the fglrx driver i have an ATI Radeon M22 [Mobility M300] ?
[09:01] <morgue> cynical, ok brb
[09:01] <RasmusseN> LjL: well you said ext3 while Ratzilla said reiserfs
[09:01] <Lars_G> azureal: If you did an upgrade before dist-upgrade LOTS more stuff would be broken
[09:01] <LjL> azureal: what did you do?
[09:02] <LjL> RasmusseN: well, must there be only one choice?
[09:02] <pcube_> can any one tell me how to install kde alongside gnome
[09:02] <LjL> RasmusseN: i'd use ext3. your mileage may vary. if you're unsure, use the defaults.
[09:02] <RasmusseN> LjL: yes, when i don't know shit about linux really
[09:02] <chad> i see how i should mount ntfs drives in the guide..but im not sure how to mount ext3 partitions to /home
[09:02] <AlanHaggai> same here pcube_ someone help
[09:02] <[GuS] > pcube_, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:02] <poquedoraqu> Okay so if i make 10gigs of ext3 for linux, 500 megs for swap, and then let the rest of the external be a seperate data partition ALSO in ext3, leave windows on NFTS and install the driver on windows to view ext3... that shoudl do it? Or am i missing something
[09:02] <RasmusseN> LjL: I will just use the defualt than
[09:02] <SwoOp> how can i boot live cd without X?
[09:02] <AlanHaggai> [GuS]  will that remove Gnome?
[09:02] <azureal> LjL and Lars_G, well some time ago I did an aptitude update and aptitude dist-upgrade
[09:02] <Ratzilla> chad: try sudo mount /dev/sda8/ /home ?
[09:03] <[GuS] > no AlanHaggai will not
[09:03] <AlanHaggai> thanks [GuS]  :)
[09:03] <LjL> azureal: dapper->edgy, or what?
[09:03] <palm76> pcube:i would suggest to use aptitude,its better at handling dependencies.sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop.
[09:03] <pcube_> will it replace the original gnome desktop?
[09:03] <soundray> poquedoraqu: no. Just make sure that you give /home as the mount point for the data partition during the installation.
[09:03] <RasmusseN> how much space will ubuntu 6.10 be after install?
[09:03] <[GuS] > then by GDM or KDM you wil available to choose session... KDE or Gnome
[09:03] <cynical> pcube_: sudo apt-get install kde
[09:03] <spawn> Can anyone help me.. I want my tv-out to work I have an ATI Radeon M22 [Mobility M300] ? I found an fglrx drive can I use that one?
[09:03] <[GuS] > cynical, thast not the right way.
[09:03] <poquedoraqu> oh!
[09:03] <azureal> LjL, yep, dapper -> edgy.. and omg... aptitude upgrade right now wants me to remove mplayer..
[09:03] <[GuS] > is kubuntu-desktop
[09:03] <cynical> [GuS] : yes, it is
[09:03] <[GuS] > no.
[09:04] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell azureal about upgrade
[09:04] <chad> mount: special device /dev/sda8/ does not exist       (a path prefix is not a directory)   ..is what i get then
[09:04] <morgue> cynical, I get You don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "/opt/firefox/plugins"
[09:04] <LjL> azureal: you should have followed that instead
[09:04] <[GuS] > is why kubuntu-desktop virtual package exist
[09:04] <AlanHaggai> cynical : it is sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:04] <cynical> morgue: use sudo
[09:04] <poquedoraqu> Well thats all i need. thanks so much guys!
[09:04] <soundray> spawn: yes, but follow the ubuntu-specific instructions:
[09:04] <azureal> LjL, no.
[09:04] <cynical> AlanHaggai: if you want to use the splash screen as well
[09:04] <soundray> !ati | spawn
[09:04] <[GuS] > so, is not kde... is kubuntu-desktop
[09:04] <ubotu> spawn: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:04] <[GuS] > read the wiki first...
[09:04] <AlanHaggai> yes
[09:04] <[GuS] > or docs.. or whatever...
[09:04] <morgue> cynical, I wasn't doing it via the terminal, what's the command to copy?
[09:04] <azureal> LjL, you're making assumptions about what i installed =)
[09:04] <spawn> thanks soundray Im reading it right now But I wanted to make sure
[09:04] <LjL> azureal: that is?
[09:04] <cynical> [GuS] : if you just want to use the KDE environment you dont need to install kubuntu-desktop...
[09:04] <RasmusseN> LgL, Ratzilla: I am going to have to delete a ripped DVD from my computer :( to install linux is better fucking work!!
[09:04] <ashzilla> Friends of #ubuntu - How can I reinstall JUST one file of a package - for instance .bashrc
[09:04] <azureal> LjL, the server edition.
[09:04] <LjL> !language
[09:04] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:05] <[GuS] > cynical, kubuntu-desktop will install default KDE apps
[09:05] <azureal> LjL, so no ubuntu-desktop packages.
[09:05] <Ratzilla> RasmusseN: lol, just bur the dvd first?
[09:05] <cynical> morgue: type sudo cp /home/username/Desktop/libflashplayer.so /opt/firefox/plugins
[09:05] <dcraven> ashzilla, there is a fresh one in /etc/skel/
[09:05] <LjL> ashzilla: .deb files are really just ar archives, you can extract them with the "ar" command. they contain to tar.gz archives, which you can extract with "tar xf"
[09:05] <palm76> ashzilla:isn't automatically created whe you fire up bash?
[09:05] <Ratzilla> RasmusseN: i actually have some dvds on me so im gonna burn edgy onto a dvd and then install edgy :)
[09:05] <LjL> azureal: i see, do you have any third party repositories enabled?
[09:06] <cynical> [GuS] : /shrug, you get kde both ways
[09:06] <RasmusseN> Ratzilla: I can't my DVD burner is giving me attitude. I am going to have to take it out to a field and beat it with a baseball bat.
[09:06] <[GuS] > nope... i am afraid not... kubuntu-desktop is the best way to do it...
[09:06] <RasmusseN> LjL: sorry, for my cursing
[09:06] <[GuS] > because you will have necesary and default packages.
[09:06] <cynical> [GuS] : so you dont get kde if you install kde?
[09:06] <chad> Ratzilla: that command didnt work.. mount: special device /dev/sda8/ does not exist       (a path prefix is not a directory)   ..is what i get then
[09:06] <morgue> cynical, just did, the file is there now, still crashes :@
[09:06] <Moodles`> is libATA part of the kernel, or can you update it without having to download new kernel?
[09:06] <cynical> morgue: what happens exactly?
[09:06] <[GuS] > cynical, you you get... but kubuntu-desktop is for that...
[09:06] <LjL> chad: /dev/sda8
[09:07] <palm76> cynical:if you install kdebase you get a basic kde
[09:07] <[GuS] > so please read before repeat this to me :)
[09:07] <cynical> palm76: I know this
[09:07] <morgue> I open flash, I go to say youtube.com it closes
[09:07] <azureal> LjL, yes, one, but that is only supposed to be for codecs
[09:07] <cynical> morgue: Do other flash sites crash? like videos.google.com?
[09:07] <acidt> does anybody know solution to this :P http://wklej.org/id/b1b80cafb8
[09:07] <[GuS] > so, people under Gnome wants to install KDE, type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop... and people under KDE wants to install Gnome... sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:07] <LjL> azureal: which repository is it anyway? and anyway, what point in the dist-upgrade process are you at?
[09:08] <morgue> cynical, yep
[09:08] <cynical> [GuS] : well not everyone who wants to try out kde wants their ubuntu splash screen changed to a kubuntu one
[09:08] <palm76> moodles:libata is a part of the kernel. and gets updated when the kernel gets updated ig there's an update for it.
[09:08] <[GuS] > cycom, that does not do that
[09:08] <rich_> *
[09:08] <[GuS] > cynical, *
[09:08] <Ratzilla> edgy done :) install time
[09:08] <chad> ok..worked.. new partiton is mounted in /home.. gonna try cp now
[09:08] <cynical> morgue: You are using firefox 2.0?
[09:09] <morgue> cynical, yes
[09:09] <[GuS] > when you install kubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-desktop will ask you even which session manager to use
[09:09] <[GuS] > GDM or KDM
[09:09] <cynical> morgue: in dapper or edgy?
[09:09] <Moodles`> im using Edgy, and I worked out I need a newer libata so hdparm stops reporting SATA harddrives as standby where they are infact active
[09:09] <LjL> acidt: the module you're trying to install appears to be for kernel 2.6.18, but i believe if you have edgy your kernel is 2.6.17
[09:09] <azureal> LjL, it can be seen here http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/edgy-seveas/all/  , and i'm done upgrading, for i've been on edgy for a while now
[09:09] <morgue> 6.10 == dapper?
[09:09] <Moodles`> how old is the Edgy kernel?
[09:09] <cynical> morgue: 6.10 = edgy
[09:09] <Moodles`> 6.06 is dapper
[09:09] <Moodles`> 6.10 is Edghy
[09:09] <morgue> ok edgy then :)
[09:09] <acidt> LjL:  i have <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:09] <rich_> ok my third or fourth time asking....i have refresh rate issues and my only options are 50 and 63 hz....i have my refresh rates specified under the section monitor and I have also done a dpkg -reconfigure and get same results
[09:09] <cynical> morgue: so do "sudo apt-get install firefox" in your terminal
[09:09] <azureal> LjL, so like i said, it doesnt really matter, it was only for codecs
[09:10] <LjL> azureal: yes, it should be safe enough. care to pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[09:10] <morgue> $ sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:10] <morgue> Reading package lists... Done
[09:10] <morgue> Building dependency tree
[09:10] <morgue> Reading state information... Done
[09:10] <morgue> firefox is already the newest version.
[09:10] <morgue> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:10] <mdke> is there any way to get back the old startup/logout sounds? These Edgy ones suck
[09:10] <palm76> moodles :edgy uses kernel 2.6.17.the current kernel is 2.6.18rc3?
[09:10] <speen> Hello, I'm trying to install Edgy Eft from the Live CD, but after a while my screen just goes black. Anyone familuar with this problem?
[09:10] <chad> Oo..i cant  do anything now after i mounted the partition to /home..  cant even start console
[09:10] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell morgue about paste
[09:10] <jerp> I don't want to make java stuff, just view it;  could someone clue me in to the packages I need to have installed?
[09:10] <soundray> rich_: it's not quite clear what the problem is.
[09:10] <cynical> morgue: wait you have two versions of firefox installed?
[09:11] <alek> hi
[09:11] <cynical> morgue: did you install from source or use automatix?
[09:11] <azureal> LjL, er, i guess i could, but i think there should just be a way to fix glibc...
[09:11] <cynical> morgue: bleh I mean a guide
[09:11] <soundray> jerp: install sun-java5-jre
[09:11] <dommie> anybody here good with sound issues?
[09:11] <ashzilla> Friends of #ubuntu - How can I reinstall JUST one file of a package - for instance .bashrc
[09:11] <LjL> azureal, i'm just trying to understand what is going on
[09:11] <chad> Failed to change to directory '/home/chad' (No such file or directory) ...:/
[09:11] <jerp> soundray: thanks
[09:11] <rich_> my problem is my refresh rates...my only options are 50 to 63hz soundray
[09:11] <morgue> cynical, ,  I used gksu "update-manager -c"
[09:12] <ashzilla> apologize, that was a double past... disregard my last comment
[09:12] <variant> !vmware
[09:12] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[09:12] <alek> i have PC with ubuntu-server without internet conncetion. is there any way to install any software from apt? (heretofore i was using ubuntu cd ;)
[09:12] <webmaren> trying to get ndiswrapper to work
[09:12] <LjL> ashzilla, why'd you want to do that anyway?
[09:12] <soundray> rich_: so you specify those in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then what?
[09:12] <rich_> i have them specified in xorg.conf under the monitor section but its like xserver isn't allowing me to change
[09:12] <webmaren> get some error messages when I try to make
[09:12] <[GuS] > alek, apt-cdrom
[09:12] <morgue> Mozilla also crashes when I try to open any site with flash
[09:12] <alecjw> ashzilla: try sudo aptitude remove <packagename> && sudo aptitude install packagename
[09:12] <ashzilla> LjL: long story, but my file got messed up trying to set a color theme
[09:12] <azureal> LjL, it won't help, but http://pastebin.ca/231389
[09:13] <alek> [GuS] , yes, but what, when I want to update software?:>
[09:13] <soundray> rich_: have you got X running right now?
[09:13] <LjL> alecjw: or just "sudo apt-get --reinstall install packagename" (or "sudo aptitude reinstall packagename")
[09:13] <rich_> yes i do
[09:13] <mdke> is there any way to get back the old startup/logout sounds? These Edgy ones suck
[09:13] <RasmusseN> time to install ubuntu bbl hopefully it works without errors
[09:13] <LjL> ashzilla, if your .bashrc is messed up, just restore it from /etc/skel/.bashrc
[09:13] <rich_> 1280X1024 at 60hz
[09:13] <webmaren> i can't make ndiswrapper
[09:13] <soundray> rich_: to make your changes happen, you have to restart X, e.g. with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[09:13] <rich_> when it should at least be 75
[09:13] <alecjw> LjL: is there a command to reinstall every single package?
[09:13] <rich_> i have done that serveral times ;)
[09:14] <alek> LjL, i havent internet conncetion so where does he get the sources from?
[09:14] <LjL> alecjw: i don't think, though you could probably pipe the output of "dpkg --get-selections" to apt-get or aptitude
[09:14] <soundray> webmaren: you shouldn't have to
[09:14] <alek> o sory
[09:14] <morgue> cynical, what do you suggest?
[09:14] <azureal> LjL, when there's a glibc error, exactly which glibc is it referring to?
[09:14] <webmaren> soundray: i mean using "make"
[09:14] <cynical> morgue: remove the firefox in opt by typing the command sudo rm -rf /opt/firefox
[09:14] <soundray> webmaren: just install the ubuntu packages. No need to compile.
[09:15] <soundray> !ndiswrapper | webmaren
[09:15] <ubotu> webmaren: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:15] <morgue> done
[09:15] <webmaren> soundray: oh thanks
[09:15] <cynical> morgue: now sudo apt-get remove firefox, sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:15] <azureal> LjL, should i aptitude reinstall libglib?
[09:15] <LjL> azureal: well, pastebin the error as well. anyway, maybe not relevant to the problem at hand, but you have the Universe and Multiverse components enabled, but don't have them enabled in the edgy-updates and edgy-security repositories. that could create problems.
[09:15] <LjL> azureal: i dunno - paste the actual glibc error(s) you get
[09:15] <soundray> rich_: I think I understand now. You *want* 75Hz, but you only get choices of 50 and 63. Correct?
[09:16] <variant> wtf, apt-get install vmware-player and it is removing a ton of packages
[09:16] <cynical> morgue: then sudo cp /home/username/Desktop/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[09:16] <variant> including ubuntu-desktop
[09:16] <soundray> rich_: you sounded as if your monitor couldn't handle anything other than 50 and 63
[09:16] <morgue> ok
[09:16] <variant> WTF
[09:16] <alecjw> rich_: the human eye can't see any difference between anything above 60hz :)
[09:16] <speen> Is there a problem with the Edgy Eft Live CD?
[09:16] <rich_> i am sorry i didn't come across to ya correctly
[09:16] <azureal> LjL, only the first line seems to mention it -- *** glibc detected *** xterm: munmap_chunk(): invalid pointer: 0x0809fca4 ***
[09:16] <duaneb> hello
[09:17] <LjL> azureal: what program causes this error?
[09:17] <c0nf> Hi dudes!
[09:17] <cynical> variant: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package, meaning it is a package that just points to other packages. Its ok to remove it, it wont do anything to your system
[09:17] <notwist> I can't get no sound when i try to play back mms streams, any ideas why? i have the w32 codec pack for mplayer...
[09:17] <azureal> LjL, xterm, i just said =P
[09:17] <c0nf> Please suggest me some image scanning application!
[09:17] <soundray> rich_: have you specified both hsync and vertical refresh ranges in xorg.conf?
[09:17] <mztriz> How do I set up VNC so that when people connect it doesn't show up in 8 bit for them
[09:17] <rich_> soundray: yes i have
[09:18] <variant> cynical: i know that, but why is apt-get instal vmware-player removing it along with a bunch of other packages like gnome-sessoin etcetc
[09:18] <rich_> i got the specs from my manual
[09:18] <morgue> cynical, I can't laungh firefox now
[09:18] <soundray> rich_: what do the lines look like in xorg.conf?
[09:18] <morgue> launch*
[09:18] <c0nf> Please suggest me some image scanning application!
[09:18] <variant> cynical: no that it's a big idea, i can fix it but it's very irritating
[09:18] <c0nf> ;[]
[09:18] <palm76> conf:xsane
[09:18] <cynical> morgue: is there an error message
[09:18] <rich_> ill do a pastbin of the monitor section or the whole xorg?
[09:18] <cynical> variant: lol I know how it is
[09:18] <morgue> Failed to execute child process "firefox" (No such file or directory)
[09:18] <highneko_> What's a good program for creating animations?
[09:19] <cynical> morgue: lol no way
[09:19] <cynical> morgue: you just installed it....
[09:19] <morgue> cynical, ok ok i got it
[09:19] <morgue> cynical, but on the terminal
[09:19] <Halpo> so i accidently got rid of the bar at the top of gnome...how do i get it back?
[09:19] <morgue> cynical, it's $ firefox.ubuntu
[09:19] <soundray> highneko_: gimp
[09:19] <cynical> morgue: does firefox work?
[09:19] <morgue> cynical, yeah :D
[09:19] <legonio> I just installed ntfs-3g... how can i change fstab so that everyone can write (both files and dirs)? It's "defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1" now..
[09:19] <cynical> morgue: and does flash work?
[09:19] <morgue> cynical, how do i get the shortcuts now?
[09:19] <highneko_> soundray: Oh yea, forgot about that. Any other program?
[09:19] <LjL> azureal: that looks more like a problem with xterm than a problem with libc to me, what's the entire error like?
[09:20] <rich_> soundray: here you go http://pastebin.ca/231396
[09:20] <morgue> cynical, wuju!!!
[09:20] <rukuartic> Hey there, I'm having a problem with flash not displaying certain characters... It displays regular things but not things like the greek alphabet... I've installed the msttfonts package though. Any ideas?
[09:20] <variant> legonio: add users,rw
[09:20] <cynical> morgue: lol good to hear
[09:20] <morgue> cynical, rofl
[09:20] <variant> legonio: i dont recall if its user or users actulay, maybe both
[09:20] <mztriz> How do I set up VNC so that when people connect it doesn't show up in 8 bit for them
[09:20] <morgue> cynical, flash is not linux friendly man
[09:20] <legonio> variant: oh... and the rest can still be there?
[09:20] <morgue> cynical, thanks A LOT
[09:20] <variant> legonio: absolutely
[09:20] <cynical> morgue: no it is not, no problem :D
[09:20] <legonio> thansk
[09:21] <gottreu> what's the status of biarch in eft?
[09:21] <cynical> morgue: for a launcher just use the command firefox, or /usr/bin/firefox
[09:21] <soundray> rich_: please post your entire xorg.conf
[09:21] <rich_> np
[09:21] <morgue> cynical, I edited the ones I had, seems to be working
[09:21] <cynical> morgue: kk
[09:21] <bense> holy shit
[09:21] <SwoOp> omg, why cant boot live cd? seems that X server does not work :S
[09:21] <bense> err
[09:21] <azureal> LjL, http://pastebin.ca/231400
[09:21] <bense> holy MOLY
[09:21] <c0nf> ;[]
[09:21] <c0nf> Please suggest me some image scanning application!
[09:21] <speen> SwoOp,
[09:21] <bense> 386 files to download for KDE
[09:21] <speen> I have the same problem
[09:21] <rich_> soundray: there ya go http://pastebin.ca/231401
[09:22] <botxj> holy DONT CURSE IN HERE bense!
[09:22] <variant> speen: try booting in safe graphics mode
[09:22] <SwoOp> i tried in safe ghrafics
[09:22] <SwoOp> and nothing
[09:22] <speen> Tried, didnt make any difference
[09:22] <morgue> cynical, how do I change the one on Applications -> Internet ?
[09:22] <bense> sorry, I forgot there were 7 year olds using  IRC & ubunut
[09:22] <jerp> in the Debian package installer what is___  Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: Sun-java5-bin | ia32-sun-java5-bin
[09:22] <botxj> them must be some smart faced, 7 year olds then
[09:22] <SwoOp> speen<- same to me
[09:22] <azureal> LjL, but another issue.. everytime i use an aptitude command, it wants to remove mplayer because it is "unused" ...
[09:23] <azureal> which is bs..
[09:23] <cynical> morgue: go to preferences > menu layout
[09:23] <speen> SwoOp, you get a blinking underscore in your topleft corner for a while. Then everything freezes?
[09:23] <cynical> morgue: or administration, I use usp so I cant remember where it is :P
[09:23] <SwoOp> speen<- yes
[09:24] <morgue> cynical, thanks!
[09:24] <cynical> morgue: anytime
[09:24] <g333k_work> Hi, what file does gdmsetup edit?
[09:24] <morgue> ok now who wants to help me with sound recorder lol
[09:24] <SwoOp> speen<- seems that is starting the X but never starts
[09:24] <SwoOp> speen<- its weird :S
[09:24] <speen> SwoOp, ge
[09:24] <baastrup> Hi, im having problems with slow boot, looks like fsck takes a lot of time, is there a solution on this??
[09:24] <LjL> azureal: well, just type "sudo aptitude install mplayer", that should make it shut up. anyway, i'm thinking that - since you haven't enabled edgy-updates and edgy-security for universe and multiverse - you might have some program from one of those components that hasn't been updated to some newer patch of glibc, and is making aptitude stick to an older glibc version, while xterm doesn't notice and crashes. kind of a convoluted hypothesis, but i'd
[09:24] <LjL> add universe and multiverse to edgy-security and edgy-updates, run a "sudo apt-get update", and a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" (or just upgrade, or whatever, or with aptitude)
[09:25] <speen> SwoOp, yeah. Everything freezes
[09:25] <morgue> I'll work on that later, thanks again
[09:25] <morgue> :)
[09:25] <dcraven> g333k_work, /etc/gdm/gdm.conf?
[09:25] <ryanakca> LjL: having it at 40 is much better than 60... it's slow for about 30 seconds, but then it's back up to speed, comparted to 15 min...
[09:25] <SwoOp> ubuntu 6.06 works in safe graphics but 6.10 not
[09:25] <soundray> rich_: looks all good to me... I take it you've been through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto ?
[09:25] <rich_> yep
[09:25] <botxj> what's the name of the gnome file manager, the bin file, that is?
[09:25] <speen> SwoOp, could always try to download the alternate install cd.
[09:25] <azureal> LjL, wait up.. i compiled mplayer from source
[09:26] <g333k_work> dcraven, I have edited that fil, but gdm doesnt see the change, do you know why?
[09:26] <LjL> ryanakca: good
[09:26] <g333k_work> file*
[09:26] <SwoOp> speen<- i did
[09:26] <dcraven> g333k_work, /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom
[09:26] <speen> Did it lock up?
[09:26] <azureal> LjL, and i already did add multiverse and universe, and updated
[09:26] <SwoOp> speen<- but i need to configure first dmraid for my RAID array
[09:26] <dcraven> botxj, nautilus
[09:26] <botxj> ty
[09:26] <speen> SwoOp, I see
[09:26] <g333k_work> dcraven, this file is different
[09:26] <aum> hi - just installed edgy, the alt keys are disabled (standard 105-key PS/2 keyboard) - what gives?
[09:26] <LjL> azureal: ah well, then aptitude probably isn't realizing you wanted it. but still, i'd try the apt-get/aptitude install mplayer -- just make sure it's going to "install" your version (i.e. it says "i'm not going to touch it because it's already there") rather than get the one from the repos
[09:26] <azureal> LjL, oh, and aptitude dist-upgrade just wants me to remove mplayer
[09:27] <rich_> ill deal with this later i have some stuff i need to do around the house i guess ;)  thank you so much for your time soundray
[09:27] <rich_> much appreciated
[09:27] <ZirJoker> hi everybody
[09:27] <g333k_work> dcraven, also I run gdmsetup, modify a value and when I run it again there is the old value, so it is not saving the changes, why?
[09:27] <variant> botxj: fadasdf
[09:27] <soundray> rich_: hope you'll fix it in the end. Annoying, having good hardware and not being able to use it fully
[09:27] <dcraven> g333k_work, did you read the comments at the very top of /etc/gdm/gdm.conf?
[09:27] <azureal> LjL, no, api mplayer wants to upgrade one package and install 15 more =/
[09:27] <Thib_> soundray: okay I'm going to try powering the machine off. Well I mean, hibernating.
[09:28] <g333k_work> dcraven, I erased them
[09:28] <dcraven> g333k_work, nice work.
[09:28] <ZirJoker> i finally discovered how to launch GIMP in english it goes like this... LANGUAGE=en gimp .... but at adding it to my starter gdesklet it doesnt does anything! what should i do?
[09:28] <Halpo> how would I get the bar back that is by default at the top of the desktop??
[09:28] <speen> SwoOp, isnt there any boot options that would help?
[09:28] <LjL> azureal: which one does it want to upgrade?
[09:28] <cuu508> hi, is it possible to get lilo installed on a clean edgy? grub doesn't work for my old SATA, lilo does, but I can't figure out how to set it up from livecd (got debs from 5.04 CD)
[09:28] <mwright1> Hi,  I am having serious trouble getting wireless going with edgy eft, I'm using ndiswrapper around a netgear card.  I can iwlist and see all the networks but when I iwconfig I get nothing, is there a really great guide, or someone wh can give me a pointer , else I'll have to buy a wet54g wireless to ethernet gateway
[09:28] <cbx33> hey guys I installed mplayer...my ultimate goal is to get mythtv working....but I can't play dvds
[09:28] <SwoOp> speen<- i didnt see nothing :S
[09:29] <ZirJoker> Halpo you can reconstruct it, by righ click and add panel
[09:29] <cbx33> mplayer just sits there reading the disc forever....
[09:29] <variant> !dvd
[09:29] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:29] <cbx33> never plays anything
[09:29] <ZirJoker> and adding things to the panel
[09:29] <SwoOp> speen<- im little newbie on linux xD
[09:29] <speen> SwoOp, you and me both brother. I only know how to use it. Not fix it = /
[09:29] <Halpo> ZirJoker: there is no add panel option...the bar is completely gone..all i have is the desktop background
[09:29] <azureal> LjL, ap. show  says Version: 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8, but I don't understand why there is a '2'...and anyway, the one i compiled from source is 1.0rc2
[09:29] <SwoOp> speen<- xD
[09:30] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell rocky|away about away
[09:30] <ZirJoker> Halpo don you have any panel left? even task list?
[09:30] <LjL> azureal: ok but is it mplayer that it tried to upgrade?
[09:30] <SwoOp> plz help,i cant boot ubuntu edgy live cd
[09:30] <ashzilla> what's the problem with VMware server not running after an upgrade to Edgy?
[09:30] <rocky|away> LjL: that's a pretty lame rule ... i change my nick to |away for the benefit of several other irc channels, not this one
[09:30] <SwoOp> anyone any idea?
[09:30] <Halpo> ZirJoker: nope, i can create a new launcher from the desktop and get to a terminal, but thats it
[09:31] <azureal> LjL, ok, i removed it, and now mplayer won't start, rofl
[09:31] <LjL> rocky|away: then stay in those channels.
[09:31] <ZirJoker> hmm let me investigate..
[09:31] <rocky|away> LjL: nice
[09:31] <LjL> azureal: ...removed?
[09:31] <soundray> Halpo: try running gnome-panel from the terminal
[09:32] <Thib_> soundray: it didn't work. The machine didn't go to sleep. I logged off and on in case the power management applet needed to read the new settings in the file, or something, but it didn't do it either.
[09:32] <ashzilla> what's the problem with VMware server not running after an upgrade to Edgy?
[09:32] <azureal> LjL, it's an interesting situation, really... if i aptitude remove mplayer, and then install the .deb that was created from checkinstall, then aptitude now wants me to remove mplayer because it is "unused"
[09:32] <gourdin> I got a lot a kept back package when I do a dist-upgrade on my edgy, is it normal ?
[09:32] <ZirJoker> yeah that can help XD
[09:32] <Halpo> cool, thanks
[09:32] <Thib_> should I have restarted the machine after changing /etc/default/acpi-support?
[09:32] <timur> Bonsoir a tous :)
[09:32] <SwoOp> speen<- i think i will reinstall 6.06
[09:33] <zircx> ok, I've got a problem that I don't quite know where to start looking for the source of the issue.. I'm using Edgy at the moment but my connection keeps having dns problems which continuously sends me to crappy freaked out sites, has anyone else had this problem?
[09:33] <azureal> LjL, is there some way to get aptitude to just forget about the package mplayer?
[09:33] <ZirJoker> soundtray do you know how can i get "LANGUAGE=en gimp" to work in my starter???
[09:33] <speen> SwoOp, and do a manual upgrade?
[09:33] <soundray> Thib_: no, it should read that file on every state change
[09:33] <dcraven> ashzilla, new kernel. Rerun vmware-configure or whatever that crap is.
[09:33] <dkr> azureal: pin the package to 0 in preferences?
[09:33] <Thib_> soundray: oh :-(
[09:34] <SwoOp> speen<- for now, 6.06 xD
[09:34] <Thib_> soundray: the only thing that appeared on the screen while it was trying to hibernate was something like "cannot find swap device, try swapon -a"
[09:34] <SwoOp> speen<- i will see in future ...xD
[09:34] <azureal> dkr, oh, i've never actually used 'aptitude', i've always just done its commandline options
[09:34] <Thib_> but I don't know what that would mean.
[09:34] <soundray> Thib_: sorry, your ACPI was clearly supported before and isn't now. I would have a look at the BIOS setup, but there is a good chance that hibernate won't work anymore
[09:34] <speen> SwoOp, hehe. Good luck. I'm trying to install from the alternate cd now.
[09:34] <soundray> Thib_: oops, you do need swap for hibernation obviously...
[09:34] <azureal> i think what i'm looking for is 'hold'
[09:34] <speen> SwoOp, See you around
[09:35] <dkr> azureal: man apt_preferences
[09:35] <dkr> azureal: ah, yeah, that would probably be easier
[09:35] <soundray> Thib_: do you have swap configured? (grep swap /etc/fstab)
[09:35] <SwoOp> speen<- googluck :P
[09:35] <Thib_> soundray: I don't understand, you mean that fewer and fewer computers are supported over time?
[09:35] <crass> I've modified my system, and now ubuntu doesn't boot into gdm, what could I have changed?
[09:35] <soundray> Thib_: no, that would be bad...
[09:35] <speen> SwoOp, cheers mate =P
[09:35] <sentinel> hiho
[09:35] <sentinel> ok got no wlan on ubuntu 6.10
[09:35] <LjL> azureal, you can try "aptitude unmarkauto mplayer" as well
[09:36] <ZirJoker> soundtray do you know how can i get "LANGUAGE=en gimp" to work in my starter???
[09:36] <sentinel> I'm on a laptop acer
[09:36] <sentinel> aspire 5024 - any ideas?
[09:36] <Thib_> soundray: oh, my /etc/fstab file looks so weird
[09:36] <LjL> azureal: (by the way, the apt-get that's in edgy has an autoremove feature as well, and i've now switched to it from aptitude - not that aptitude's bad, just saying)
[09:36] <azureal> LjL, ok, hold worked out ok-- nothing happens at dist-upgrade, so everything is up-to-date
[09:36] <Thib_> soundray: it seems to have changed completely from what I used to know
[09:36] <duaneb> damn
[09:36] <duaneb> darn, sorry
[09:36] <soundray> Thib_: what I mean is that many ACPI implementations are buggy, and sometimes an update inadvertently makes the system incompatible with a particular bug
[09:37] <soundray> Thib_: what does the grep give you?
[09:37] <duaneb> I tried to configure fluxbox the way I like it, with imlib and transparency, right?
[09:37] <Thib_> it has a bunch of UUID stuff now...
[09:37] <azureal> LjL, ah, but i just didnt like apt-get from before, so it will take me some time to get over it
[09:37] <duaneb> but then it spits out this: configure: error: Your libstdc++ doesn't have the sstream or strstream classes
[09:37] <LjL> azureal: it isn't saying "N packages not upgraded" (with N!=0), is it?
[09:37] <soundray> Thib_: what does the grep give you?
[09:37] <azureal> LjL, well it is, just 1, for mplayer.
[09:37] <Thib_> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29599/
[09:37] <RasmusseN> of course ubuntu does't work for the 3rd time
[09:38] <duaneb> anyone?
[09:38] <Thib_> soundray: I remember back when the format was what is now commented out; I wouldn't know how to set up the UUID thing myself if I was to add a hard drive (but let's not go there for now)
[09:38] <duaneb> ubuntu is a damn nightmare for me :|
[09:38] <Geoffrey2> I'm about to do a full install of Edgy, other than making sure all my data is backed up, anything I should be aware of before I start it up?
[09:38] <duaneb> gentoo was soo much easier!!!
[09:38] <dcraven> lol
[09:38] <soundray> Thib_: what does it say when you do a 'sudo swapon -a'|
[09:38] <soundray> ?
[09:39] <Thib_> with a pipe at the end?
[09:39] <Thib_> or was that a typo?
[09:39] <noela> i never thought i would live to read something like that, duaneb
[09:39] <noela> lol
[09:39] <LjL> azureal: i see. well i don't really know about the xterm thing, googling didn't help either. all i can suggest, which will almost certainly not work, is "aptitude reinstall xterm", and failing that, *POSSIBLY* "aptitude reinstall libc6", which might be dangerous however for what i know
[09:39] <Thib_> oh
[09:39] <crass> duaneb: look at the config.log
[09:39] <Thib_> it says
[09:39] <Thib_> "swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/7906fad1-a15b-443d-b713-f895280c34ad: Invalid argument"
[09:39] <soundray> Thib_: typo. Only what's inside the quotes
[09:39] <duaneb> noela, gentoo works soo well
[09:39] <duaneb> I have to struggle to compile something
[09:40] <dcraven> duaneb, I'd stick with it if I were you. That's what you are familiar with.
[09:40] <noela> it does, but it's not what you'd call an "easy-to-use" distro...
[09:40] <Thib_> (sorry, I'm a little freaked out by the new fstab syntax thingy)
[09:40] <soundray> Thib_: try replacing the UUID string with /dev/hda5 (assuming that that is still your swap partition)
[09:40] <crass> duaneb: yeah, thats one of the problems with binary distros, imo
[09:40] <Thib_> soundray: so, you mean, I should make fstab pretty much the same as what it used to be?
[09:41] <Vladaz> hello
[09:41] <Vladaz> has anyone tried to play world of warcraft on linux?
[09:41] <noela> but it works well, doesn't it? If you have enough spare time... :p
[09:41] <lotusleaf> Vladaz: #winehq
[09:41] <soundray> Thib_: no, only change the swap line (since everything else works)
[09:41] <Vladaz> ok thanks
[09:41] <lotusleaf> Vladaz: yw
[09:41] <Thib_> soundray: okay; I'll check with gparted that the partition name is still the right one
[09:42] <soundray> Thib_: you could also correct the UUID string based on looking at 'ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid'
[09:42] <azureal> LjL, why libc6 and not libglib
[09:42] <salim> hi, why does my Ubuntu 6.10 use more battery than my window$ os, the difference is about 1hr (compared to 2hrs in linux)
[09:43] <Thib_> soundray: the UUID is correct, but just a sec, I think GParted has some useful extra info
[09:43] <ZirJoker> how do i create a launcher with parameters like... LANGUAGE=en gimp?
[09:44] <Thib_> soundray: basically since upgrading, the only other thing that was bothering me was Firefox 2 apparently causing the memory to thrash abominably after a few hours of being open
[09:44] <Thib_> soundray: but it seems my swap partition is just hosed
[09:44] <salim> !battery
[09:44] <azureal> LjL, and if i were to reinstall it, should i exit X and just do it from commandline?
[09:44] <optimusprime> how do you remove a kernel.....I compiled it wrong....do I remove the .deb package?
[09:44] <soundray> salim: you may need to install and configure laptop-mode-tools
[09:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about battery - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:44] <duaneb> sorry
[09:44] <Thib_> soundray: GParted shows a "warning" sign next to it and says,
[09:44] <optimusprime> what's the command line for that....
[09:44] <duaneb> where can I install the regular dev tools?
[09:44] <duaneb> the complete set?
[09:44] <blazemonger> what'sup folks
[09:44] <duaneb> instead of JUST c tools or something random like that
[09:45] <mwright1> anyone know of ndiswrapper problems with wlan0
[09:45] <blazemonger> i am trying to compile source and one of my apps says it can't find gnome-config
[09:45] <soundray> Thib_: just set it up as swap space again
[09:45] <Thib_> "Unable to detect filesystem! Possible reasons are: the file system is damaged; the file system is unknown to GParted; there is no file system available (unformatted)"
[09:45] <mwright1> I can't do a iwlist but can't do a dhclient after doing iwconfig wlan0 essid and key
[09:45] <Thib_> soundray: yeah I think I need to do that
[09:45] <notwist> I can't get no sound when i try to play back mms streams, any ideas why? i have the w32 codec pack for mplayer...
[09:45] <mwright1> sorry I can do a iwlist... that works fine, but the other stuff doesn't
[09:45] <mwright1> I'm not stuffing up the key or the essid
[09:45] <azureal> duaneb, do you have linux headers for your
[09:46] <azureal> duaneb `uname -r`
[09:46] <duaneb> ok
[09:46] <duaneb> 2.6.17-10-generic
[09:46] <soundray> Thib_: hope that's the fix. Gotta go
[09:46] <blazemonger> what package is gnome-config in?
[09:46] <LjL> azureal: you mean glibc i suppose, not libglib... (which is the base for GTK)?  because i believe the libc6 package is the actual glibc package: type "apt-cache show libc6 | grep Provides"
[09:47] <LjL> azureal: and yeah, i'd do it in a console if i had to
[09:48] <Thib_> soundray: thanks!
[09:48] <Sixer> Where in ubuntu do I specify my vesafb resolution?
[09:48] <Sixer> It has no lilo.conf
[09:48] <Thib_> yes, at least it fixes the thrashing...
[09:48] <Thib_> let me try powering off
[09:48] <azureal> duaneb, well then you probably need linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic
[09:48] <azureal> iirc that libstdc++ error was what i got when i tried to compile w/o headers
[09:49] <duaneb> azureal, why?
[09:49] <notwist> any idea why nautilus goes blank when i choose list view? it worked before i upgraded to 6.10
[09:49] <duaneb> azureal, I have them
[09:49] <blazemonger> anyone know that error i'm getting
[09:49] <blazemonger> i have a compile saying i dont have gnome-conf
[09:49] <blazemonger> gnome-config i mean
[09:50] <azureal> duaneb, then build-essential, do you have that?
[09:50] <duaneb> no
[09:50] <duaneb> thanks
[09:50] <duaneb> should come by default, thogh
[09:50] <Sp4rKy> hi
[09:50] <bense> what's a good graphical ftp client
[09:50] <bense> besides gftp
[09:51] <blazemonger> i dont like graphical ftp clients
[09:51] <azureal> duaneb, well, idk.. it depends which one you get.. i had ubuntu server edition, so pretty much nothing came w/ it =P
[09:51] <blazemonger> i like console stuff like ncftp2
[09:51] <mckinnoj> ok, so I broke my system screwing with xorg.config...whenever I try to boot to Edgy my monitor doesn't recognize that it's plugged in.  I'm running off of a Dapper live cd now, is there anyway for me to get to the xorg.config file from here?
[09:51] <notwist> bense: whats wrong with gftp?
[09:51] <duaneb> haha
[09:51] <Sp4rKy> please, how can i set more -I parameters with cdbs ?
[09:51] <blrakach> I like lftp for command line
[09:51] <bense> notwist, it sucks compared to flashfxp
[09:51] <notwist> bense: so run flashfxp via wine?
[09:51] <botxj> i just tried to upgrade my dapper to edgy and i got a problem about an /usr/X11R6/bin folder that i had to delete some files in it, so i did that and now i get this error
[09:51] <bense> i love this solution
[09:51] <botxj>   libpango1.0-dev: Depends: libxft-dev but it is not installed
[09:51] <botxj>   xorg-dev: Depends: libxft-dev but it is not installed
[09:51] <botxj>   xserver-xorg-core: Depends: x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0) but 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 is installed
[09:52] <azureal> LjL, yea, thx for all the info... i guess i'll try reinstalling libc6 next time i'm in console
[09:52] <notwist> bense: ?
[09:52] <notwist> what solution
[09:52] <bense> exactly
[09:52] <bense> what solution
[09:52] <CotRo|eR> what is the channel for ubuntu server pls??
[09:52] <notwist> what the hell are you talking about
[09:52] <notwist> speak sense
[09:52] <zircx> ok, has anyone suffered this sort of problem before? I can type in an address and hit enter and it will go to that address, If i click on the home link which is the same address, it comes up with the http://siteaddress/404error.html file
[09:52] <ashzilla> How can I change irssi to display my alias with color?
[09:52] <duaneb> ok
[09:52] <dcraven> bense, sorry nobody has written one to your specs.
[09:52] <duaneb> that seems to work
[09:52] <LjL> CotRo|eR: this one.
[09:52] <bense> running flashfxp with wine is not a good answer
[09:53] <optimusprime> it there a way to optimize a kernel that's already installed?
[09:53] <xSUSHi> zircx: try it in mozilla
[09:53] <crass> mckinnoj: does it just boot to the command line?
[09:53] <bense> i'll try kftpgrabber
[09:53] <blazemonger> i'm trying to find gnome-config but i can't find it anywhere
[09:53] <CotRo|eR> I need to install ISP CONFIG in my ubuntu server .. is there some command? any help pls?
[09:53] <optimusprime> or can someone tell me how to delete a kernel
[09:53] <acidt> i need help ;\ http://wklej.org/id/b1b80cafb8
[09:53] <Sixer> Hi, anyone know the VESA resolution code for 720p display?
[09:53] <zircx> ok, I have to install mozilla, i've only got firefox at teh moment
[09:53] <dcraven> ncftp is a great client.
[09:53] <ZirJoker> anyone here knows how to create shell scripts?????
[09:53] <variant> ZirJoker: yes, it is rather easy
[09:53] <xSUSHi> optimusprime: you need to re-compile your kernel.
[09:53] <mckinnoj> crass: no, my monitor displays some weird info and then goes to sleep.  If I turn it off then on, I get the same display before it promptly goes to sleep again
[09:54] <ZirJoker> variant can i have your im adress so you can help me??
[09:54] <Ayabara> hi. I had a storage ntfs partition mounted with "ntfs   defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46   0   1". now I have converted it to fat32. do I only have to change ntfs to fat32?
[09:54] <mckinnoj> crass:  The message it displays involves some weird internal monitor stuff and I'm pretty sure it isn't coming from the computer
[09:54] <CotRo|eR> I need to install ISP CONFIG in my ubuntu server .. is there some command? any help pls?
[09:54] <Sixer> Hi, anyone know the VESA resolution code for 720p display?
[09:54] <Sixer> (for inserting in lilo or grub as vga=XXX)
[09:54] <variant> ZirJoker: echo "ls -al" > lls ; sh lls
[09:55] <variant> ZirJoker: ther eyou go, a short and pointless example of a shell script named lls
[09:55] <ZirJoker> O.O
[09:55] <optimusprime> do I delete the previous installed kernel to do that?
[09:55] <mckinnoj> I'm pretty sure I can solve this problem as long as I can figure out how to access my Edgy partition while running on a live dapper cd
[09:55] <ZirJoker> i've used linux for 2 weeks now xD
[09:55] <variant> ZirJoker: lol
[09:55] <duaneb> uhh
[09:56] <duaneb> on wine: fixme:mscoree:_CorExeMain Directly running .NET applications not supported.
[09:56] <crass> mckinnoj: how does the patition table have an affect on the X issue?
[09:56] <CotRo|eR> !isp config
[09:56] <variant> ZirJoker: basically, just put commands in a text file (call it what you like) and run it with sh textfile
[09:56] <xSUSHi> optimusprime: read a tutorial on compiling your kernel, and you will replace the vmlinuz file that comes out
[09:56] <ZirJoker> i want to create a shell script that launches an application with LANGUAGE=en at the command beggining
[09:56] <crass> but in any case, I think parted might be on the live cd
[09:56] <Ayabara> anyone? are my options ok for mounting fat32?
[09:56] <ZirJoker> i want to create a script that
[09:56] <xSUSHi> optimus: /vmlinuz is the kernel file
[09:56] <azureal> ZirJoker, google bash scripting and have fun =P
[09:56] <ZirJoker> o.o
[09:56] <ZirJoker> ok...
[09:56] <roughtrader> is there a way to set port forwarding in the gnome bittorrent client?
[09:56] <mckinnoj> crass: Well, I made a copy of xorg.config before I changed anything, so I was just going to replace the new file with the original.  Should that work?
[09:56] <xSUSHi> azureal: n1
[09:57] <variant> ZirJoker: echo "LANGUAGE=wn applicationname > myscript ; sh myscript
[09:57] <variant> ZirJoker: echo "LANGUAGE=en applicationname" > myscript ; sh myscript
[09:57] <zircx> xSUSHi; is there a bug with the latest firefox?
[09:57] <zircx> it seems to work perfectly fine in mozilla..
[09:57] <crass> mckinnoj: I'm not sure, because I've had similar problems
[09:57] <crass> and I replaced it with the original and am still having issues
[09:57] <xSUSHi> zircx: hmm maybe -- try resetting the configuration
[09:57] <mckinnoj> crass: Blast
[09:57] <xSUSHi> zircx: works fine with me
[09:58] <bense> kftpgrabber works well
[09:58] <azureal> zircx, define the "home link"
[09:58] <variant> ZirJoker: you can set up bash aliases for that kinda thing though.. it is better to do it like htat
[09:58] <crass> mckinnoj: its worth a try though. my problems may come from somethingelse I did
[09:58] <crass> you should just mount the partition that has /etc and replace it
[09:58] <xSUSHi> azureal: when he types "www.google.com" he gets a 404
[09:59] <mckinnoj> crass: Does the wiki have a guide on mounting partitions?
[09:59] <mckinnoj> crass: I'm still very much a n00b
[09:59] <ZirJoker> bash aliases??
[09:59] <zircx> you mean definiing the homelink in the homepage is what would cause it to wig out?
[09:59] <xSUSHi> ZirJoker: help alias
[09:59] <variant> ZirJoker: yeah, type "man alias"
[09:59] <xSUSHi> or alias --helpl
[09:59] <crass> mckinnoj: no clue, I'm a n00b when it comes ot ubuntu, though I've been using linux for over 7 years now
[09:59] <xSUSHi> no man page for built in commands
[09:59] <pluma_> Gaile is on?
[09:59] <zircx> xSUSHi , how do you reset the configuration? on firefox
[09:59] <azureal> xSUSHi, but when it's not the homelink... so http://video.google.com/  does not give him an error?
[09:59] <pluma_> Where?
[09:59] <bense> anyone know how to turn syntax highlighting on in vim?
[10:00] <crass> mckinnoj: just try something like: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[10:00] <azureal> :syntax enable
[10:00] <variant> xSUSHi: good point! forgot about that
[10:00] <botxj> i just tried to upgrade my dapper to edgy and i got a problem about an /usr/X11R6/bin folder that i had to delete some files in it, so i did that and now i get this error
[10:00] <botxj>   libpango1.0-dev: Depends: libxft-dev but it is not installed
[10:00] <botxj>   xorg-dev: Depends: libxft-dev but it is not installed
[10:00] <botxj>   xserver-xorg-core: Depends: x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0) but 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 is installed
[10:00] <variant> ZirJoker: yeah, type alias --help
[10:00] <bense> that's it, thanks azureal
[10:00] <azureal> bense, np
[10:00] <zircx> I've defined the link
[10:00] <CotRo|eR> I need to install ISP CONFIG in my ubuntu server .. is there some command? any help pls?
[10:00] <xSUSHi> zircx: look in ~/.mozilla/firefox
[10:00] <crass> mckinnoj: actually, I think the live cd might automatically mount all disk partition it can
[10:00] <ZirJoker> @
[10:00] <gnomefreak> botxj: did you check to see if ubuntu-desktop package was installed?
[10:00] <ZirJoker> @_@
[10:00] <crass> perhaps in /mnt or /media or something
[10:01] <botxj> gnomefreak: no, but i'll check now...
[10:01] <bense> E319: Sorry, the command is not available in this version
[10:01] <bense> arg
[10:01] <ZirJoker> ok didnt understand XD
[10:01] <ZirJoker> i typed help alias
[10:01] <gnomefreak> botxj: it might be too late now. please join me in #ubuntu-classroom and i will see what we can do to fix it
[10:01] <variant> ZirJoker: alias --help
[10:01] <ZirJoker> and readed the text but i understood nothing
[10:02] <mckinnoj> crass: hmmm, nothing in /mnt or /media
[10:02] <mckinnoj> crass: let me try mounting it myself
[10:02] <gnomefreak> ZirJoker: what is the alias you want to make?
[10:02] <ZirJoker> i want to make a launcher that launches gimp in english
[10:02] <ZirJoker> it is...
[10:02] <variant> ZirJoker: i take it back, there is no --help option to alias
[10:02] <azureal> ZirJoker, just go read your ~/.bashrc file , you'll see alias examples
[10:02] <ZirJoker> LANGUAGE=en gimp
[10:02] <gnomefreak> ZirJoker: gimp has nothing to do with bash alias' just make a launcher
[10:02] <mckinnoj> crass: the command you gave me asks me to specify the filesystem type, where would I type that?
[10:02] <bcnl> errr I don't run ubuntu on a desktop, but a friend of mine just did and says that xmms won't play mp3's.  Is there a special package he needs to install?
[10:02] <salim> is rovclock better or fglrx/ati powernowd?
[10:03] <variant> lol @ people who don't know what they want :)
[10:03] <ZirJoker> yeah my gimp is in spanish but if i make a launcher with the command "LANGUAGE=en gimp" it does nothing
[10:03] <crass> mckinnoj: if it says that then lifely its the wrong partition, or disk
[10:04] <kromagg> hiya, I'm trying to use the ROUTE target in iptables but it doesn't seem to be included, did it get sorted to another package or something?
[10:04] <gnomefreak> ZirJoker: is everything in spanish?
[10:04] <xSUSHi> bcnl: get Automatix   it'll download all the codecs you need
[10:04] <gnomefreak> no
[10:04] <defrysk> oooh
[10:04] <defrysk> nono
[10:04] <ZirJoker> most of it i installed gimpshop and there are somethings in spanish
[10:04] <bcnl> xSUSHi: thanks
[10:04] <ZirJoker> i mean
[10:04] <slinky_> i'm having a problem with file types and open with appearing twice, can someone help me
[10:04] <crass> mckinnoj: you should look at the output of the dmesg command to see what the devices are
[10:04] <ZirJoker> somethings in english
[10:04] <gnomefreak> xSUSHi: please dont advise things that can and will hurt a system
[10:04] <defrysk> not aUTODESASTERIX
[10:04] <azureal> ZirJoker, something like     alias gimpen='LANGUAGE=en gimp'     doesnt work?
[10:04] <ZirJoker> but i want to make it all english im more used to it since i used to use photoshpo in english
[10:04] <azureal> <in bashrc>
[10:05] <xSUSHi> ZirJoker if you launch gimp in a terminal using gimp LANGUANG=en       does that work ?
[10:05] <ZirJoker> ... where do i have to put that? im new in linux
[10:05] <ZirJoker> let me see
[10:05] <xSUSHi> do you know what a terminal is
[10:05] <azureal> rofl
[10:05] <azureal> xSUSHi, nice =P
[10:06] <crass> ZirJoker: it might be LANGUAGE=en_US
[10:06] <ZirJoker> it opens, but it tries to open "LANGUAGE=en" file :P
[10:06] <xSUSHi> zirjoker: i think the file you want to edit is ~/.gimprc
[10:06] <ZirJoker> ...
[10:06] <ZirJoker> where do i find that file?
[10:06] <variant> ZirJoker: in ~/
[10:06] <azureal> ~     =  /home/<username>
[10:06] <LjL> !automatix | xSUSHi, bcnl
[10:06] <ubotu> xSUSHi, bcnl: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[10:07] <azureal> ZirJoker, try 'cd ~' to better understand the wonderful ~
[10:07] <ZirJoker> if i open terminal and put LANGUAGE=en gimp it launches in english, but i want to add a launcher in my starter
[10:07] <variant> ZirJoker: the ~ represents your home directory
[10:07] <xroach> when i try to startx it gives me a error but i cant read it it shows up so quick, can i read it somewehere?
[10:07] <ZirJoker> the file is blank
[10:07] <variant> i give up :)
[10:07] <ZirJoker> that's why i asked that question
[10:07] <Phinite> I want to export the display of my ubuntu box back to my windows box running xming.  can anyone assist with this?
[10:07] <crass> ZirJoker: you said it didn't work a while ago
[10:08] <ZirJoker> it does not work in a launcher
[10:08] <ZirJoker> but it does in terminal
[10:08] <azureal> ZirJoker, do you have a ~/.gimprc file/
[10:08] <crass> what is a launcher?
[10:08] <azureal> ?
[10:08] <ZirJoker> launcher is a shortcut...
[10:08] <Ayabara> I got my fat32 drive mounted, but I don't have permissions to view some folders. any hints appreciated
[10:08] <azureal> ok, installing gimp =P
[10:08] <ZirJoker> i think i dont have a .gimprc file
[10:08] <azureal> we'll see =)
[10:09] <xSUSHi> im not sure if thats even the correct location - i dont use gimp =]
[10:09] <ZirJoker> xD
[10:09] <xSUSHi> ok found it
[10:09] <blazemonger> i can't find gnome-libs package or gnome-config .....would it be possible to install it from a .deb source?
[10:09] <xSUSHi> ~/.gimp-2.2/gimprc
[10:09] <xst> Since edgy, X has been broken for most Matrox cards. A bug has been filed for long time ago (http://tinyurl.com/y8o6z7) but it seems to be ignored by the maintainer. What can I do then?
[10:09] <ZirJoker> ok
[10:09] <ZirJoker> it opened
[10:10] <slinky_> can someone help me with file types and associations?
[10:10] <ZirJoker> now that do i have to do?
[10:10] <blazemonger> I don't want to  have to leave ubuntu so i can compile sources on freshmeat.net :(
[10:10] <PSUSI> Ayabara: only some folders?
[10:10] <azureal> it's a race
[10:10] <PSUSI> Ayabara: you mounted it with the uid=yourname option right?
[10:10] <blazemonger> azureal do you know how to get gnome-config and gnome-libs installed ?
[10:11] <gnome_guy> My usb external hdd that was working under this same ubuntu box, 1 hour ago, doesn't work any longer .. How can I fix this problem?
[10:11] <blazemonger> i cant find it anywhere in the ubuntu edgy repositories but i was able to find it on debian's site
[10:11] <xSUSHi> zirjoker: in console terminal, type LANG=en   then press enter    then type gimp   and enter
[10:11] <azureal> lol
[10:11] <msmith> what's up with the devs working on the ndiswrapper repos? isn't ndiswrapper vital to most *buntu users trying to get their wlan up and running?
[10:11] <ZirJoker> it launched in english :D
[10:12] <PSUSI> gnome_guy: hit it with a hammer?  or be more specific about what doesn't work, any error messages, and what you have tried so far ( powering everything off and restarting? unplugging and replugging? )
[10:12] <ZirJoker> but.... is everything else gonna be in english?
[10:12] <xSUSHi> everything you launch in that term
[10:12] <xSUSHi> until you type exit
[10:12] <ZirJoker> hahaha
[10:12] <ZirJoker> but...
[10:12] <stuart_> If I copy my xorg.conf from suse to ubuntu would it fix my mouse problem or is mouse configuration handled elsewhere?
[10:12] <ZirJoker> xDDDD
[10:12] <xSUSHi> zirjoker: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73885
[10:13] <ZirJoker> its the same thing if i just type LANGUAGE=en gimp
[10:13] <blazemonger> i can't find any way tocompile this
[10:13] <PSUSI> gnome_guy: and of course, what happened in the last hour between the time it worked and didnt?  sudden power failure?  you unplug it without unmounting and waiting a while?
[10:13] <slinky_> where do i find a list of file extentions and the associated programs?
[10:13] <ZirJoker> i want to add a launcher in english
[10:13] <blazemonger> trying to compile a mathematics program and it complains of having not found gnome-config and some file in gnome-lib a file named gnomeConf.sh
[10:14] <xSUSHi> zirjoker: maybe LANG=en|gimp
[10:14] <blazemonger> did ubuntu leave anything out of gnome?
[10:14] <ZirJoker> :O
[10:14] <ZirJoker> lets try that
[10:14] <holiday42> i've got a friends ubuntu 6.06 machine.  has agere winmodem.  works fine after i compiled& loaded the martian_drv & loaded martian_helper... but there's no gui saying connecting or no dialtone, etc when I enable the dialer... this stuff can be seen in /var/log/messages though.  no problem for me but -- my friend isnot familiar with console usage.  is there's supposed to be a status windows...
[10:14] <holiday42> ...that pops up?
[10:14] <gnome_guy> PSUSI, Before removing it, I right-click on it > eject.
[10:14] <PSUSI> blazemonger: development libraries, headers, and tools are not installed by default... you probably need to install the proper -devel package
[10:14] <ZirJoker> Detalles: Ha ocurrido un error al ejecutar el proceso hijo LANG=en|gimp (No existe el fichero  directorio)
[10:14] <ZirJoker> that means...
[10:15] <xSUSHi> holiday42: no
[10:15] <blazemonger> i cant find it psusi
[10:15] <msmith> blazemonger, slocating those files on your system and copy them to different /lib directories
[10:15] <PSUSI> gnome_guy: is there an activity light on the drive that shows when it is being accessed?
[10:15] <holiday42> ah darn
[10:15] <xSUSHi> holiday42: sending AT&F1 or...some other modem command, can turn on the modem's speaker
[10:15] <ZirJoker> an error has ocurred at running the son process <LANG=en|gimp> (the file or directory does not exists)
[10:15] <blazemonger> how do i find out what's in the packages?
[10:15] <idefix> what plugins do I need to install for the error code "totem could not play 'fd://0' ?
[10:15] <pibarnas> I can't save programs on gnome-settings-manager, I don't know why...can you help me?
[10:15] <Ayabara> PSUSI: yes, only some folders. (documents and audio).
[10:15] <gnome_guy> PSUSI,  yup.
[10:15] <blazemonger> i found gnome-libs-data but no gnome-libs
[10:15] <ZirJoker> but i could try it backwards
[10:15] <blazemonger> and cant find gnome-config at all..
[10:15] <gnome_guy> PSUSI,  doesn't kernel recognizes usb hdd as scsi device?
[10:16] <PSUSI> blazemonger: you can search for which package ( if any ) contains a specific file on packages.ubuntu.com
[10:16] <holiday42> good idea, thanks xSUSHi
[10:16] <ZirJoker> no...
[10:16] <idefix> what plugins do I need to install for the error code "totem could not play 'fd://0'" ?
[10:16] <blazemonger> i have gnome-devel installed too
[10:16] <ZirJoker> i cant.,.
[10:16] <ZirJoker> xD
[10:16] <PSUSI> Ayabara: check your logs for error messages, the filesystem is probably damaged
[10:16] <slinky_> when i right click on a file it says open with rhythmbox twice,any ideas as to why it appears twice
[10:16] <pibarnas> I can't save programs on gnome-settings-manager, I don't know why...can you help me?
[10:16] <PSUSI> gnome_guy: yea
[10:16] <captine> hi all.  i use a FAT partition to share files between ubuntu and windows.  however, my fat folders are viewed as read only by windows, and will not change.  Does Ubuntu cause this?
[10:16] <Ayabara> PSUSI: ok. where can I find those logs?
[10:16] <azureal> since we're talking about LANG, is there a way to list all things that LANG can be assigned to?
[10:16] <PSUSI> Ayabara: in /var/log
[10:17] <gnome_guy> PSUSI, But i don't see any SDA under /dev
[10:17] <blazemonger> how do i find out what files are in a apt package
[10:17] <gnome_guy> sda
[10:17] <gnome_guy> even
[10:17] <xSUSHi> LANG=   just sets the enviorment label
[10:17] <PSUSI> Ayabara: specifically /var/log/messages or kern.log
[10:17] <xSUSHi> type set to list them all
[10:17] <xSUSHi> or export
[10:17] <coolpaul900> What do I do if I get an error with wine saying Could not load the DLL library?
[10:18] <ZirJoker> o.o
[10:18] <PSUSI> gnome_guy: it might not be sda.... check your log or the output of dmesg to see where it was detected and assigned a device name
[10:18] <ZirJoker> what?
[10:18] <ZirJoker> xD
[10:18] <blazemonger> PSUSI: I can't find the development files i neeed but they ARE in debian though
[10:18] <xroach> how can i see my 3d cards BusID
[10:18] <blazemonger> is it possible to use the packages from debian?
[10:18] <blazemonger> like from source
[10:18] <PSUSI> blazemonger: in which package?  they are probably the same in ubuntu
[10:18] <coolpaul900> What do I do if I get an error with wine saying Could not load the DLL library?
[10:18] <salim> how dangerous is the undervolting pentium m?
[10:18] <gnome_guy> PSUSI,  what's the differences between dmesg and lsusb ? ..  I thought any device that is plugged into usb port , must be seen as lsusb ?
[10:18] <blazemonger> PSUSI: gnome-libs and gnome-config
[10:19] <Ayabara> PSUSI: found nothing relevant. searched for sda3 and the mount folder
[10:19] <PSUSI> gnome_guy: that works too
[10:19] <ompaul> salim,  that would be a question for ##intel if there be such a beast (which I doubt)
[10:19] <coolpaul900> What do I do if I get an error with wine saying Could not load the DLL library?
[10:19] <idefix> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:19] <idefix> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:19] <idefix>
[10:19] <idefix> what's that?
[10:19] <gnome_guy> PSUSI,  All i get under lsusb is Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[10:19] <PSUSI> blazemonger: have you installed gnome-libs?
[10:19] <iter> idefix: are you root ?
[10:19] <xroach> how can i see my 3d cards BusID
[10:19] <idefix> yes
[10:19] <idefix> iter yes
[10:19] <variant> is it just me or is the free60 project deader than a smashed brick?
[10:20] <stuart_> If I copy my xorg.conf from suse to ubuntu would it fix my mouse problem or is mouse configuration handled elsewhere?
[10:20] <iter> idefix: lsof | grep /var/lib/dpkg
[10:20] <xSUSHi> idefix: you dont have package manager open do you
[10:20] <coolpaul900> What do I do if I get an error with wine saying Could not load the DLL library?
[10:20] <azureal> xSUSHi, oh, i think simply "set LANG" brings LANG back to what it was before
[10:20] <ZirJoker> xSUSHo what do i have to do now?
[10:20] <idefix> xSUSHi thx
[10:20] <blazemonger> it's not available
[10:20] <PSUSI> Ayabara: ok... do this: tail /var/log/messages, then go try to access the drive and see if any mor emessages pop up
[10:20] <blazemonger> that's what i'm trying to say
[10:20] <g333k_work> Hi do I reduce the auto login delay time in gdm?
[10:20] <xroach> how can i see my 3d cards BusID
[10:20] <slinky_> mp3 files are being interperted as mp3 documents but file structure says mpe/audio, any ideas?
[10:20] <g333k_work> Hi, How do I reduce the auto login delay time in gdm?
[10:20] <iter> lspci
[10:20] <salim> it is written: "Download the latest kernel source (replace vv with the version of the current kernel):
[10:20] <salim> $ apt-get source linux-image-2.6.17-vv-generic" but what is vv??
[10:20] <coolpaul900> What do I do if I get an error with wine saying Could not load the DLL library?
[10:21] <iter> salim: 10
[10:21] <salim> k
[10:21] <salim> thx :-)
[10:21] <ulrik> hey guys. some trouble with edgy, of course; how do I adjust keys in console? I can't use alt or altgr. I want this to match my gnome settings.
[10:21] <xSUSHi> ZirJoker: I think gimp only runs whatever language is in the LANG variable... you're going to have to use that to launch gimp
[10:21] <PSUSI> salim: apt-cache search linux-image to see what is availible
[10:22] <Ayabara> PSUSI: no more messages appear
[10:22] <ZirJoker> so can I add a gimp (english version) launcher to my desktop??
[10:22] <xSUSHi> Is it okay for me to delete the deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives?  It's getting quite bulky
[10:22] <variant> xSUSHi: yup
[10:22] <xSUSHi> nice
[10:23] <ZirJoker> or will i have to use terminal to laucnh my english version gimp forever and ever?
[10:23] <PSUSI> Ayabara: ok... unmount the drive and fsck it
[10:23] <blazemonger> i have all of the gnome-devel packages installed too
[10:23] <blazemonger> i cant get this proggie to compile at all
[10:24] <PSUSI> Ayabara: and if you didn't know already; no, fsck is not a swear word ;)
[10:24] <notwist> PSUSI: i love those tshirts.. "fsck it"
[10:24] <xSUSHi> Zirjoker: you will need to make a shell script and have your launcher run that script.
[10:24] <Ayabara> PSUSI: :-D , I figured that out
[10:25] <Ayabara> PSUSI: fsck outputs nothing that looks like an error to me
[10:25] <variant> xSUSHi: why cant he make a desktop icon launcer? thats what he wanted to do in the first place
[10:25] <blazemonger> PSUSI:i can't find anything related to gnome-config or gnome-libs
[10:25] <blazemonger> it's specificly asking for the package gnome-libs
[10:25] <ZirJoker> xDDDDDDDDDDDD
[10:25] <blazemonger> is it in the backports maybe?
[10:25] <xSUSHi> Zirjoker: the shell script is only a text file that contains "LANG=en gimp"
[10:25] <ZirJoker> i knew it!!!
[10:25] <ZirJoker> xDDDD
[10:25] <ompaul> !enter
[10:25] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[10:25] <xSUSHi> variant: cuz he needs gimp to run in english
[10:25] <ZirJoker> and it haves to be called gimpen.sh
[10:25] <PSUSI> date ; wine ; finger ; unzip ; yes ; yes ; yes ; gasp ; zip ; sleep < best command line ever
[10:25] <ZirJoker> right?
[10:25] <variant> ZirJoker: right click your desktop > new launcher> run command ="LANG=en gimp"
[10:25] <blazemonger> i have gnome-devel installed but there is nowhere to be found gnome-libs or gnome-config..
[10:26] <variant> ZirJoker: callit what you like, doesnt need .sh extension
[10:26] <ZirJoker> ok o lost here...
[10:26] <variant> ZirJoker: right click your desktop > new launcher> run command ="LANG=en gimp"
[10:26] <PSUSI> Ayabara: you did unmount right?  fsck -f /dev/foo
[10:26] <Ayabara> PSUSI: I unmounted
[10:27] <ZirJoker> variant
[10:27] <ZirJoker> it doesnt works :P
[10:27] <xSUSHi> i didnt think so =\
[10:27] <Ayabara> PSUSI: dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN, /dev/sda3: 7538 files, 3247551/4349875 clusters
[10:27] <ZirJoker> i think the shell script is the way to do that thing..
[10:27] <znejk> anyone got any tips on how to install grub to an usb stick?
[10:27] <blazemonger> i'm still not having any luck
[10:27] <PSUSI> Ayabara: that's not the only line is it?  you did use the -f?
[10:28] <xSUSHi> znejk: wouldn't your bios have to have the ability to boot from USB?
[10:28] <Ayabara> PSUSI: used -f. actually that is two lines, the comma ends the first
[10:28] <Ayabara> fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006)
[10:28] <Ayabara> dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN
[10:28] <znejk> xSUSHi: but yeah it surely does
[10:28] <Ayabara> /dev/sda3: 7538 files, 3247551/4349875 clusters
[10:28] <ompaul> !nickspam > AlanHaggai|Sleep
[10:28] <slinky_> If i right click on a mp3 file it lists twice, open with rhythmbox twice, and ideas why?
[10:29] <blazemonger> no one knows where i can find the packages gnome-libs and gnome-config?
[10:29] <blazemonger> :(
[10:29] <PSUSI> Ayabara: hrm... strange... if the filesystem isn't damaged, you should have access to all of it or none
[10:29] <znejk> xSUSHi: cause i aint got not cd or floppy and its a new ibm laptop
[10:29] <blazemonger> maybe i should switch to debian
[10:29] <xSUSHi> blazemonger: the web
[10:29] <xroach> plaah I installed a fresh edgy and now it wont just boot
[10:29] <g333k_work> Hi, I have this problem : I load gdmsetup, modify something, then load again gdmsetup and I see that the change I did is the old one, In other words the change I did was never saved, why?
[10:29] <Abst> Does anyone know the command for gnome volume control?
[10:29] <blazemonger> i cant find anything even on the web about it
[10:29] <ZirJoker> xSUSHi so.. i have to create a text file that says LANGUAGE=en gimp and just save it just like that?
[10:29] <mckinnoj> crass: cool, I was able to mount the partition, now I just have to play a bit
[10:29] <xSUSHi> blazemonger: gnome.org
[10:29] <salim> I want to patch kernel but I get the following: debian/rules updateconfigs
[10:29] <salim> dh_testdir
[10:29] <salim> sh: debian/bin/oldconfig: Permission denied
[10:29] <salim> make: *** [updateconfigs]  Fehler 126
[10:29] <W_McL> since i upgraded from dapper to edgy i get an error message during the filesystems check at boot time : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29603/
[10:29] <xSUSHi> download gnome and install it..
[10:29] <ompaul> !paste > salim
[10:29] <shwag> how do I list available updates for my machine without installing them ?
[10:29] <znejk> i just want to install grub so i can change it and netinstall ubuntu
[10:29] <PSUSI> g333k_work: did you save it and exit after you changed it?
[10:30] <ompaul> !away > cga_afk
[10:30] <xSUSHi> ZirJoker: yes and give it 666 permissions
[10:30] <g333k_work> PSUSI, there is no SAve button
[10:30] <ompaul> cga_afk, don't do that there are over 1k users here it is not needed read the message from the bot thanks
[10:30] <xSUSHi> i mean 700 permission
[10:30] <blazemonger> ubuntu's development packages have wierd names sometimes
[10:30] <Ayabara> PSUSI: that's what I thought too. documents and audio come up with "locks" on them. :-/
[10:30] <cowmix> is there a graphical way to manage harddrives in Edgy?
[10:30] <downfallat111> has anyone installed musikcube on ubuntu?
[10:30] <Felka> hello, I installed Ubuntu 6.6 on a partition, but I can't get it to boot, a boot loader I installed tells me it is not a bootable partition, even thought I 'flagged' it as bootable in Gparted
[10:31] <cga_afk> ompaul, i'm in x channels (as op as well) and i use afk to tell people i'm not there to help. sorry.
[10:31] <xSUSHi> cowmix: system>admin>disks ?
[10:31] <MitchM> felka: resintall
[10:31] <ZirJoker> 666 the number of the beast ;|
[10:31] <PSUSI> Ayabara: the lock probably just means it is read only, did you mount the whole disk read only?
[10:31] <MitchM> felka: reinstall* =)
[10:31] <vgoltser> what's the app to connect to a windows remote desktop computer?
[10:31] <g333k_work> xSUSHi, there is no save button or option, jut to close
[10:31] <xroach> Is here anyone who could help?
[10:31] <coolpaul900> How do I do this **Changed in: Ubuntu Sourcepackagename: None => linux-source-2.6.17?
[10:31] <iter> xroach: lspci
[10:31] <ompaul> cga_afk, we find that a silent /away Reason works :-)
[10:32] <iter> like I said way back
[10:32] <cowmix> xSUSHi: gone under Edgy
[10:32] <ZirJoker> shouldnt i call it name.sh?
[10:32] <Felka> i did reinstall once, I moved it from a logical partition to a primary partiton because I thought that might be the problem, but it didn't change anything
[10:32] <xSUSHi> oh
[10:32] <blazemonger> but ubual;ll the gnome development files installede
[10:32] <MitchM> vgolster: rdesktop
[10:32] <vgoltser> ahh, ty
[10:32] <blazemonger> and this program still complains about no gnome-config or gnome-libs package
[10:32] <Ayabara> PSUSI: hmm. maybe this is just a cut-copy-paste. what should my umask be?
[10:32] <ryan__> -_-
[10:32] <PSUSI> g333k_work: there most definately is a big save button in gedit
[10:32] <MitchM> vgolster: yup =)
[10:32] <cga_afk> ompaul, thanks =) btw: i hate and don't use stupid spamming away messages =) have a good night
[10:32] <slinky_> what happened to the spirit of ubuntu
[10:33] <coolpaul900> How do I do this **Changed in: Ubuntu Sourcepackagename: None => linux-source-2.6.17?
[10:33] <g333k_work> PSUSI, excuse me?
[10:33] <MitchM> vgolster: good idea is to use apt-cache search <something> when you have a a package question.
[10:33] <xSUSHi> PSUSI: hes trying to save partition information
[10:33] <g333k_work> PSUSI, run gdmsetup
[10:33] <ompaul> cga_afk, they are not spam as they are silent
[10:33] <blazemonger>  Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install
[10:33] <MitchM> vgolster: i.e. 'apt-cache search rdesktop'
[10:33] <PSUSI> Ayabara: 777 should give full access to everyone
[10:33] <coolpaul900> How do I do this **Changed in: Ubuntu Sourcepackagename: None => linux-source-2.6.17?
[10:33] <PSUSI> g333k_work: ohh, thoguh you said you were editing a file with gedit
[10:33] <blazemonger> i have every single gnome development tool installed and it can't find this? i'm getting frustrated with trying to compile this app
[10:34] <xroach> what might it be wrong when im booting it just gives me a black screen.
[10:34] <idefix> I can't get streaming video in firefox, what could the problem be?
[10:34] <LazyFrog> hey, I have a problem with installing gnome-network-manager
[10:34] <coolpaul900> How do I do this **Changed in: Ubuntu Sourcepackagename: None => linux-source-2.6.17?
[10:34] <PSUSI> g333k_work: sudo gdmsetup
[10:34] <g333k_work> PSUSI, nop I mean using gdmsetup
[10:34] <Ayabara> PSUSI: I used this "http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Windows", it had umask=000...
[10:34] <g333k_work> PSUSI, I did
[10:34] <xroach> how can i start ubuntu with acpi=off?
[10:34] <coolpaul900> How do I do this **Changed in: Ubuntu Sourcepackagename: None => linux-source-2.6.17?
[10:34] <LazyFrog> When I am configuring it it gives me this error: "checking for C compilerdefault output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:34] <xSUSHi> xroach: your kernel was dammaged or incompatible with your hardware
[10:34] <LazyFrog> what is the problem?
[10:34] <PSUSI> Ayabara: that is definately not what you want, that means nobody has access to anything
[10:35] <ZirJoker> omg
[10:35] <ZirJoker> xDDD
[10:35] <ompaul> ZirJoker, please collect all your thoughts and put them in a single line, do not press enter after part of a line, thanks  you, can, use, commas ;-)
[10:35] <idefix> I already changed to totem-xine
[10:35] <coolpaul900> How do I do this **Changed in: Ubuntu Sourcepackagename: None => linux-source-2.6.17?
[10:35] <xroach> xSUSHi So what can i do or can I do anything?
[10:35] <xSUSHi> LazyFrog: you got build-essentials installed?
[10:35] <blazemonger> PSUSI: I'm still not having any luck..would switching to a distro that has those packages work? or would it be easier to just install mandriva
[10:35] <sith-lord> sup
[10:35] <xSUSHi> xroach: were you able to boot before?
[10:35] <idefix> how do you get VLC to open streaming video on sites? merely open http://blabla.com doesn't work
[10:35] <Ayabara> PSUSI: but what was weird is that I could access everything but those two folders
[10:35] <coolpaul900> can some one help?
[10:35] <sith-lord> not sure
[10:35] <blazemonger> since ubuntu doesnt have the development stuffs for compiling 90% of the stuff on freshmeat
[10:36] <xroach> xSUSHi well i did with 6.06 but now I've installed a clean edgy
[10:36] <LazyFrog> xSUSHi... umm.. I think so... I have Ubuntu 6.10 and do build-essentials come by default?
[10:36] <coolpaul900> someone?
[10:36] <xSUSHi> blazemonger: i can compile stuff fine.   just get the dependencies
[10:36] <funky_dennis> hi all
[10:36] <tsoler> hello to all
[10:36] <idefix> I'll help you if you can help me out coolpaul900
[10:36] <xSUSHi> blazemonger: try compiling the dependencies, rather than getting the binaries.
[10:36] <coolpaul900> thnx
[10:36] <coolpaul900> My problem is this
[10:36] <coolpaul900> How do I do this **Changed in: Ubuntu Sourcepackagename: None => linux-source-2.6.17?
[10:36] <PSUSI> blazemonger: try reading the readme in this package... it should tell you what libraries you need to build it, and are you sure you don't have the files already and it just isn't finding them ( not looking in the right place? )?
[10:36] <coolpaul900> I was told to do this
[10:37] <coolpaul900> From my bug report
[10:37] <xSUSHi> idefix: you probably need to open a port in iptables
[10:37] <ZirJoker> hahahah ok, in conclusion I solved my problem XD a shell script was the solution the script is LANGUAGE=en gimp and then I saved the file with ".sh" at the end of it :P
[10:37] <ompaul> !repeat
[10:37] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:37] <salim> what does the error message "sh: kernel-wedge: not found" mean?
[10:37] <xSUSHi> Zirjoker: you're welcome
[10:37] <ZirJoker> thanks to xSUSHi and hmmm to... well everybody who helped me xD
[10:37] <MitchM> coolpaul900: that is not actualy "instructions" to do anything. All they did was assign your problem to a different group of people.
[10:37] <maxflax> I have a problem compiling a Imon driver.. I wonder if anyone can help me with figuring out whats wrong!
[10:37] <coolpaul900> ohh
[10:37] <MitchM> coolpaul900: =)
[10:38] <Donald1> DO you know if the Gnome 2.16 environment is going to be included in the next Ubuntu upgrade?
[10:38] <MitchM> coolpaul900: What problem are you having?
[10:38] <MitchM> coolpaul900: "with the bug"'
[10:38] <blazemonger> i have done that
[10:38] <blazemonger> no luck
[10:38] <xroach> xSUSHi so its possible my hardware was supported in 6.06 but not in edgy?
[10:38] <blazemonger> it doesnt mention the libraries i need at all
[10:38] <idefix> xSUSHi, which ones and how?
[10:39] <Ayabara> PSUSI:  when I mount I get full permissions to everything but those two folders
[10:39] <xSUSHi> idefix: i use firestarter to edit iptables
[10:39] <PSUSI> Ayabara: strange.... 000 means nobody gets any access
[10:39] <LazyFrog> xSUSHi but I must have build-essentials because it finds gcc... or is that separate from build-essentials... and if they don't come by default in 6.10 where can I download them from :p
[10:39] <LazyFrog> ?
[10:39] <Ayabara> PSUSI: it says 000 in the edgy guide as well
[10:40] <blazemonger> can anyone see if they can find gnome-libs or gnome-config
[10:40] <idefix> xSUSHi, but the firewall is probably blocking right?
[10:40] <Donald1> What is Edgy?
[10:40] <Geoffrey2> Edgy is the latest version of Ubuntu....6.10
[10:40] <blazemonger> the way the repositories are everyting has these different names
[10:40] <blazemonger> we need a standard
[10:40] <PSUSI> Ayabara: afaik, they are wrong then... does using 777 make it all work?
[10:40] <xSUSHi> 000 = read only 0222= r/w
[10:40] <tsoler> pppr
[10:40] <Ayabara> with 0777 I didn't get access to anything
[10:41] <xSUSHi> use 0222
[10:41] <Ayabara> if I put it in /etc/fstab
[10:41] <Carolinamusicman> I got to question for anyone to answer Im currently running Ubuntu 6.06 and the Hddtemp saids my hard drive is running at 54 degrees C is that ok or is it that something to be concern about.
[10:41] <Ayabara> PSUSU: the guide says to use this line for read/write: "/dev/hda1    /media/windows vfat  iocharset=utf8,umask=000  0    0"
[10:41] <KooL4444> what file are the dns entries in?
[10:41] <PSUSI> xSUSHi: no... 222 is write only, no read, no execute
[10:42] <idefix> xSUSHi, do you know by heart which ports are needed for video streaming?
[10:42] <blazemonger> PSUSI: i can't find anything with the name of gnome-libs or gnome-config
[10:42] <PSUSI> xSUSHi: see man chmod
[10:42] <xSUSHi> psusi: my bad i was backwards
[10:42] <maxflax> I get this errors when compiling.. http://pastebin.perl.se/0de8eb8970/ the imon VFD driver.. anyone now what I can do to fix it?
[10:42] <Ayabara> PSUSI: anyway. I set permissions of the last 2 folders manually, remounted it, and now it seems to work
[10:43] <Geoffrey2> I'm about to install Edgy....backed up everything I need to save...anything else I should do before I start the install?
[10:43] <Ayabara> with the line I just wrote
[10:43] <xSUSHi> psusi: and 222 is r/w no execute.
[10:43] <xSUSHi> i mean 6
[10:43] <PSUSI> blazemonger: I see gnome-libs-data
[10:43] <blazemonger> i'm still not having any luck finding the packages in the repositories..
[10:43] <xSUSHi> im sleepy
[10:43] <xSUSHi> blazemonger: do you have all the repositories open?
[10:44] <PSUSI> Ayabara: fat does not support permissions, you can not set them on individual files/directories, which is why you have to specify them when mounting
[10:44] <xSUSHi> blazemonger: did you edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:44] <shwag> how do I turnoff a bootup service ?
[10:44] <PSUSI> xSUSHi: yes, 6 is w/r no x... but you want x so you can traverse directories and execute any programs
[10:45] <sid> I install xubuntu edgy, and then I did sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. Everything worked fine. But my splash screen is wrong. it shows xubuntu splash screen on boot, not ubuntu
[10:45] <phillip> hey i did this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs    but theres no sound in my videos.
[10:45] <Ayabara> PSUSI: ehh. I don't mean to be rude, but setting them manually worked for me....
[10:45] <sid> How can I have the on boot splash screen be ubuntu?
[10:45] <bung_> shwag: man update-rc.d
[10:45] <blazemonger> xSUSHi everything except the backports i dont do backports
[10:45] <ashzilla> Hi, after I upgraded to Edgy, downloaded the package that contains the linux-headers for the 2.6.17-10 kernek, and running the /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl script to update Vmware, it no longer runs... does anyone have any helpful ideas to get it fixed?
[10:45] <gottreu> does eft allow for multiple architectures?  (ie. 32 and 64 bit packages for AMD64)
[10:46] <dg6e74> would anyone be intrested in helping me set up a network
[10:46] <PSUSI> blazemonger: try libgnome-dev.... and do you have a specific file name it says it can't find?
[10:46] <maxflax> I get this errors when compiling.. http://pastebin.perl.se/0de8eb8970/ the imon VFD driver.. anyone now what I can do to fix it?
[10:46] <Ayabara> PSUSI: I have recently reformatted this drive from ntfs to fat32 (a couple of reboots ago). could that have something to do with it?
[10:46] <PSUSI> Ayabara: this is a fat disk right?
[10:46] <Ayabara> PSUSI: yes, and that's what fsck said too
[10:46] <blazemonger> yah
[10:47] <ashzilla> Hi, after I upgraded to Edgy, downloaded the package that contains the linux-headers for the 2.6.17-10 kernek, and running the /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl script to update Vmware, it no longer runs... does anyone have any helpful ideas to get it fixed?
[10:47] <PSUSI> Ayabara: fat( 12/16/32 ) has no means of storing permissions, so any chmod you do will be forgotten when you remount
[10:47] <fran> does anyone here use spyware software?
[10:47] <blazemonger> gnomeConf.sh
[10:47] <ashzilla> what's the gnu command to check disk space, ect
[10:47] <sid> ashzilla: df -h
[10:47] <VitoGirl> i installed the ssh , now hot to start it?
[10:47] <mixandgo> hello, anyone have any ideea what change from dapper to edgy since my NAT doesn't work anymore !
[10:47] <ashzilla> sid, thanks
[10:48] <crunner> hi all
[10:48] <xroach> could someone help ?
[10:48] <keiron> hi. i can mount my windows machine successfully with the following fstab entry: //<IP_ADDRESS>/Desktop    /home/keiron/dawn smbfs dmask=777,fmask=777  0    0 but i have to do sudo mount -a on boot to get it to mount
[10:48] <keiron> is there any way to get it to mount automatically on boot?
[10:48] <xSUSHi> ashzilla: also try du
[10:48] <PSUSI> VitoGirl: the server?  if you installed it, then it is running already
[10:48] <crunner> how do i use wine with ubuntu?
[10:48] <raconteur> anybody use swiftfox? Is the performance worth the download?
[10:48] <Ayabara> PSUSI: that's weird. they survived my remount..
[10:49] <PSUSI> Ayabara: that is totally fubar then... don't know what to tell you... fat was designed for dos which had no concept of permissions
[10:49] <VitoGirl> okey
[10:49] <VitoGirl> :)
[10:49] <shiv> I get 0x7 error on grub for my windows partition. Has anybody resolved this?
[10:49] <teclo> Hi. Just upgraded to 6.10, and when running NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8776-pkg1.run  , at the end of the compilation I get:   /bin/sh: scripts/mod/modpost: not found
[10:49] <ashzilla> Hi, after I upgraded to Edgy, downloaded the package that contains the linux-headers for the 2.6.17-10 kernek, and running the /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl script to update Vmware, it no longer runs... does anyone have any helpful ideas to get it fixed?
[10:49] <blazemonger> PSUSI is mandriva easier than ubuntu?
[10:49] <xSUSHi> keiron: add mount -a into your rc
[10:49] <shwag> what package contains smbmount and smbtree ?
[10:50] <LazyFrog> Do build-essentials come default with 6.10 ?
[10:50] <PSUSI> blazemonger: I have no knowlege of mandriva
[10:50] <xSUSHi> keiron: in /etc/rc.local
[10:50] <blazemonger> PSUSI how can i find the files i need
[10:50] <Ayabara> PSUSI: it looks very very weird, so I don't know if I'm happy that it seemingly works... thanks for helping anyway :-)
[10:50] <sid> I switched from xubuntu to ubuntu(I was on xubuntu and did apt-get install ubuntu-desktop), gnome works fine and all. But my bootsplash when I first boot(before gdm) shows xubuntu splash screen. How do I change that?
[10:50] <blazemonger> do you know which package has gnomeConf.sh
[10:50] <PSUSI> shiv: you mean error: partition type 07 not recognized?
[10:50] <notwist> Im trying to rip streams in mplayer, i can watch them OK with sound and everything but when i watch the ripped file theres no sound. Any idea why? please :)
[10:51] <xroach> can anyone helpp?
[10:51] <PSUSI> blazemonger: did you try the libdev package I sugested?  or searching for the file on packages.ubuntu.com?
[10:51] <dg6e74> anyone know the command to start a dchp sever
[10:51] <spanglesontoast> hemp
[10:51] <pixelPOET> hemp?
[10:51] <blazemonger> i tried it
[10:51] <blazemonger> didnt work
[10:51] <blazemonger> neither method has worked
[10:51] <maxflax> I get this errors when compiling.. http://pastebin.perl.se/0de8eb8970/ the imon VFD driver.. can anyone help me or are all here just noobs without any linux knowledge?
[10:52] <xblast> Is there anyway that I can change the language of my ubuntu after installation?
[10:52] <xSUSHi> blazemonger: You need the gnome-libs-devel rpm
[10:52] <PSUSI> blazemonger: then go download the sourece tarball yourself
[10:52] <PSUSI> xSUSHi: in ubuntu it looks like that is called libgnome-dev
[10:52] <blazemonger> how do i install the rpms xst
[10:53] <Thib_> okay folks
[10:53] <mixandgo> i have this : "net.ipv4.conf.default.forwarding=1" in sysctl.conf but still in proc it's =0 any ideea why ?
[10:53] <Thib_> I think I've identified a stranger problem than just "hibernate doesn't work"
[10:53] <teclo> Hm, just upgrade to 6.10 and now Xorg always take more than 95% of the CPU, and Firefox is very very slow.... any idea ?
[10:53] <xSUSHi> psusi: maybe get the rpm and use alien?
[10:53] <PSUSI> teclo: what kind of video card do you have?  sounds like acceleration isn't working
[10:53] <xSUSHi> blazemonger rather
[10:54] <phillip> were w32codecs removed from the repositories?
[10:54] <Thib_> so apparently now, if I hibernate, the machine really just shuts down (and then reboots from scratch if I push the button), *and* my swap partition gets hosed
[10:54] <PSUSI> xSUSHi: either that or just get the source tarball that the readme for the source tarball he has says to?
[10:54] <keiron> xSUSHi: excellent thank you
[10:54] <teclo> PSUSI: indeed acceleration isn't working. I ran the nvidia installer, but the compilation fails...
[10:54] <Thib_> every time I go to hibernate, my swap partition fails to work.
[10:54] <MitchM> sweet.
[10:54] <PSUSI> Thib_: why do you say your swap partition is hosed?  hibernation means to shut down and save the contents of ram to the swap partition
[10:54] <Mon> i've got the weirdest problem.. only the numpad of my keyboard works. not even the onscreen keyboard works. this mean something to anyone?
[10:55] <bary> yo
[10:55] <Flamekebab> Anyone know how to fix the flash-crash error in Edgy in Flock?
[10:55] <bary> yep
[10:55] <PSUSI> teclo: try installing the package from ubuntu instead of directly from nv
[10:55] <maxflax> ok.. it is as I thought.. only newbies in this channel... with no real knowledge
[10:55] <Thib_> PSUSI: I say it gets hosed because when the computer comes back up, GParted says that the partition is unusable, and because my computer thrashes real bad
[10:55] <bary> go to /bin and configure esx.ega
[10:55] <teclo> teclo: how do I do that ?
[10:55] <teclo> PSUSI: how do I do th at ?
[10:55] <xSUSHi> mon: have you tried using different keyboard layouts?
[10:55] <dg6e74> help plz the only thing i can access online is irc???
[10:55] <sid> I switched from xubuntu to ubuntu(I was on xubuntu and did apt-get install ubuntu-desktop), gnome works fine and all. But my bootsplash when I first boot(before gdm) shows xubuntu splash screen. How do I change that?
[10:56] <Mon> xSUSHi: hmm no.. it's US as it's always been and should be
[10:56] <Mon> could give it a go iguess...
[10:56] <blazemonger> its working now pablo_
[10:56] <blazemonger> PSUSI
[10:56] <xSUSHi> mon: system -> preferences -> keyboard click around in there maybe a layout is dammaged?
[10:56] <blazemonger> i'm a bit blazed heh
[10:56] <PSUSI> Thib_: when you hibernate the swap partition is replaced with the hibernation data.... when you reboot the kernel needs a resume= parameter to point it to the swap device to load the hibernation data and resume
[10:56] <Flamekebab> dg6e74, again, with more details and in English?
[10:56] <Thib_> PSUSI: I and I say that "hibernating causes it" not to mean that it literally causes it (because I really don't know), but just because clearly I can stop and restart my machine as often as I want without trouble, but if I select hibernate once, my swap partition is then flagged as bad and my computer thrashes.
[10:57] <phargle> maybe it had something to do with hibernate
[10:57] <bary> can anyone give me a virus
[10:57] <bary> i need to analyze it
[10:57] <crass> Thib_: did you turn off the splash screen for boot?
[10:57] <xSUSHi> bary: /kick
[10:57] <PSUSI> Thib_: sounds like that is because your machine is not resuming from the hibernation, so the hibernation data is left sitting on the swap device
[10:57] <bary> why
[10:57] <bary> i would like to secure my os
[10:57] <notwist> in some files mplayer says "Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound." - but it works fine in amarok and other files in mplayer. Any ideas why? I've tested a downloaded stream and an .mp4 file and got the same error. Anyone? :)
[10:57] <stuart__> If I copy my suse config will it fix this problem -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=284297
[10:58] <PSUSI> Thib_: make sure your kernel command line has the proper resume= parameter
[10:58] <bary> can anyone help me in obtaining knowledge to secure my os
[10:58] <salim> mine is compiling a kernel right now, can I watch a movie during that with VLC?
[10:58] <Thib_> crass: I didn't do anything specific, except upgrade from Dapper to Edgy; in Dapper it "just worked" and now it doesn't, but I'd never had to set things before, so I don't know.
[10:58] <xSUSHi> bary: yes, but giving a newbie a virus isn't the way to go
[10:58] <tsoler> hey guys
[10:58] <Mon> xSUSHi: can keyboard layouts be "damaged" ? ...
[10:58] <bary> what is the best way
[10:58] <tsoler> can anyone help me?
[10:58] <crass> is there a way to 'reset' the rc*.d scripts, something modified them so that almost nothing runs on boot now
[10:58] <Thib_> PSUSI: that sounds like a reasonable explanation; but I don't know where that resume= param gets set, where do I do that?
[10:58] <bary> if i can defeat a virus i can defeat everything
[10:58] <tsoler> anyone available?
[10:59] <tsoler> hello
[10:59] <crass> Thib_: its a kinown issue that it doesn't work with usplash, you have to turn it off in the kernel parameters
[10:59] <xSUSHi> mon: probably not =]   maybe re-initialize it
[10:59] <PSUSI> Thib_: if you use grub to boot, in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:59] <Flamekebab> tsoler, whatcha need?
[10:59] <xSUSHi> bary: try linuxsecurity.com
[10:59] <xst> blazemonger: Why do you ask me? But anyway: With the debian package named "alien" you can install rpms very easily
[10:59] <tsoler> need some help on postgres
[10:59] <bary> cool sushi
[10:59] <PSUSI> anyhow, time for me to head home... bbl
[10:59] <shwag> what package contains smbmount and smbtree ?
[10:59] <bary> what do you want me to do
[10:59] <Mon> shwag: try packages.debian.org
[10:59] <idefix> where are the logfiles stored?
[10:59] <Thib_> crass: same question as PSUSI; I don't know where those parameters are set. If you tell me a file, I'll go look, but I don't know enough to know where these things are.
[10:59] <Mon> shwag: you can search for any file there
[10:59] <Flamekebab> tsoler, sorry, can't help you there, I've never gone within five kilometres of Postgres
[10:59] <Thib_> PSUSI: I'll go look right now.
[11:00] <tsoler> flame: ok thanks
[11:00] <crass> Thib_: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:00] <dom_> i'm having problems getting my sound to work
[11:00] <dom_> on my laptop
[11:00] <znejk> grub-install --recheck /dev/sdb1 shout install grub on the usb? not?
[11:00] <crass> delete the word 'splash'
[11:00] <dom_> sometimes it works and sometimes it does not
[11:00] <xSUSHi> bary: here's a good one http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Security-HOWTO/
[11:00] <stuart__> If I copy my suse config will it fix this problem -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=284297
[11:00] <tsoler> flame: whats that new release of ubuntu?
[11:01] <Flamekebab> 6.10, Edgy Eft
[11:01] <whyameye> !cups
[11:01] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:01] <tsoler> im a very new user , should i get an upgrade?
[11:01] <Flamekebab> which version are you using at the moment, tsoler ?
[11:01] <tsoler> the dapper??
[11:01] <sid> I switched from xubuntu to ubuntu(I was on xubuntu and did apt-get install ubuntu-desktop), gnome works fine and all. But my bootsplash when I first boot(before gdm) shows xubuntu splash screen. How do I change that?
[11:01] <Flamekebab> dapper drake
[11:01] <Flamekebab> 6.06
[11:01] <[gen2] niki> hi
[11:01] <tsoler> yes
[11:01] <Flamekebab> stick with 6.06 for now
[11:01] <[gen2] niki> iam new to ubuntu
[11:01] <[gen2] niki> :O
[11:01] <Flamekebab> 6.10 is "edgy"
[11:01] <teclo> ok it works :)
[11:01] <Flamekebab> ie it's got loads of unstable crap in it
[11:02] <Flamekebab> hehe
[11:02] <[gen2] niki> i used gentoo before, but ubuntu is very cool
[11:02] <maxflax> I get this errors when compiling.. http://pastebin.perl.se/0de8eb8970/ the imon VFD driver.. anyone know what I can do to fix it?
[11:02] <tsoler> got that
[11:02] <wikijeff> Any idea why when trying to view flash videos, sometimes I only get sound??
[11:02] <Flamekebab> I love Edgy, because it has lots of new stuff I like!
[11:02] <xSUSHi> im sticking with dapper for a bit too
[11:02] <Flamekebab> but for most people, I'd say stick with Dapper
[11:02] <tsoler> is there any reason for upgrading?
[11:02] <teclo> Hm, how can I turn off this annoying thing that put red lines under what I type ? This isn't winword.exe or something
[11:02] <shwag> oh brother, there is no one in here that knows where smbtree is ?
[11:02] <tsoler> like what flame?
[11:02] <Xal2> My hard drive has recently changed positions, and now my linux partition is sda3 rather than sdb1. How can I adapt my linux installation to this so I don't have to reinstall?
[11:02] <Flamekebab> like the newest version of Kino, for example
[11:03] <Flamekebab> or at least, the ability to compile it
[11:03] <OmnipotentEntity> Is anyone else having a problem getting buddy icons to show up on Gaim?
[11:03] <variant> teclo: you using xchat?
[11:03] <tsoler> kino is for what/.
[11:03] <teclo> variant: yes
[11:03] <variant> teclo: you can probably turn it of in options
[11:03] <Thib_> crass: my most recent kernel line is: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 root=UUID=3306ed3e-beee-4438-b66c-3d3e124e4514 ro quiet splash
[11:03] <xSUSHi> xal2: when you boot you have to give it the option root=sda3
[11:03] <stuart__> Xal2: I think all that is needed is to edit your grub settings
[11:03] <phillip> were w32codecs removed from the repositories?
[11:03] <crass> Xal2: you should use partition uuid in fstab
[11:03] <Thib_> crass: what should it be? nosplash instead of splash?
[11:03] <tsoler> me very new to ubuntu : one week or less
[11:03] <crass> Thib_: yes, take out the splash
[11:03] <Xal2> I've done that, but a lot of things aren't working correctly.
[11:03] <Thib_> oh, take out
[11:03] <crass> just delete the word
[11:03] <Flamekebab> tsoler, what do you think so far?
[11:03] <tsoler> trying to find alternatives for windows
[11:04] <stuart__> If I copy my suse config will it fix this problem -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=284297
[11:04] <Xal2> I got it to boot, but the display manager for instance doesn't work.
[11:04] <tsoler> i thing something is happening here
[11:04] <crass> Xal2: meaning it boots into the terminal?
[11:04] <xblast> Can I change the language of my ubuntu installation?
[11:04] <Thib_> crass: is there a template somewhere that I can also change so that next time there is a new kernel it doesn't get "splash" automatically again?
[11:04] <Xal2> Nope
[11:04] <Xal2> I'm in KDE now.
[11:04] <tsoler> a strong turn point for me
[11:04] <Flamekebab> tsoler, good to hear it!
[11:04] <Flamekebab> I hope things go well for you
[11:04] <idefix> printing doesn't work, what could be the problem?
[11:05] <idefix> sorry to bother you guys all the time but..
[11:05] <webmaren> every time i modprobe my ndiswrapper, my system freezes
[11:05] <tsoler> flame are u an old ubuntu user/?
[11:05] <mikedoty> Greetings, fellow ubuntuoans.  Yesterday, I made an attempt to install drivers for my nVidia graphics card.  Tragically, I made ubuntu really mad at me and had to use bimbari's kindful help to run dpkg-configure on my machine.  Today, I am back where I started after I installed ubuntu yesterday, though I have (I think) installed the nvidia drivers in the ordeal; however, if I have them installed, I do not believe I have them acti
[11:05] <crass> Thib_: I don't know, I'm new to ubuntu
[11:05] <Flamekebab> tsoler, I've been using it for, hmm, since hoary beta
[11:05] <bung_> Thib_: probably
[11:05] <Flamekebab> which was version 5.04
[11:05] <bung_> Thib_: vim /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:05] <mikedoty> In my interest of not doing this again ... what should I first do to activate the drivers (presuming I have them installed)?
[11:05] <bung_> change the #defoptions bitty
[11:05] <Thib_> crass: oh :-) well, you certainly looked better than that :-)
[11:05] <idefix> damn damn double damn
[11:05] <bung_> then run update-grub
[11:05] <tsoler> experienced with another linux distribution before?
[11:06] <mikedoty> I have an nvidia display settings section in my ... Applications menu
[11:06] <Flamekebab> so around 18 months
[11:06] <Thib_> bung_: ah, yes, I see how that would work
[11:06] <idefix> one of you guys must have a printer installed, no?
[11:06] <Thib_> crass: thanks for helping
[11:06] <Flamekebab> tsoler, a little Fedora, Suse, other things
[11:06] <crass> Thib_: I've been using linux for many years, but I'm just new to ubuntu and its quirks
[11:06] <c_lisp> hey when its time for my screen saver to show all I get is a black screen what can be causing that?
[11:06] <tsoler> so ubuntu at a whole is  a new birth
[11:06] <bung_> faf with update-grub a lot, or your work will just get clobbered.
[11:06] <Flamekebab> but I only really took the plunge with Ubuntu
[11:06] <Thib_> bung_: okay, I'll try that.
[11:06] <Thib_> okay, I'm going to try hibernating again
[11:06] <tsoler> cant compare iys my first linyx installation
[11:07] <Flamekebab> tsoler, what do you think of ubuntu so far?
[11:07] <tsoler> to be  honest im shocked with open source so far
[11:07] <webmaren> every time i modprobe my ndiswrapper, my system freezes
[11:08] <crass> thanks bung_
[11:08] <tsoler> i mean even now that i m booted from windows im using gaim
[11:08] <tsoler> i think that it wiil help to do things
[11:08] <bung_> tsoler: is shocked a good thing or a bad thing?
[11:08] <idefix> are there drivers for all hardware in ubuntu?
[11:08] <RiGLEY> is it safe to install xfce with a graphic installer in ubuntu ? I want to try it
[11:09] <tsoler> a good
[11:09] <c_lisp> anybody having trouble with screensavers?
[11:09] <[TSU] Payback> If I copy my suse config will it fix this problem -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=284297
[11:09] <idefix> c_lisp someone was complaining about a black screen a while ago
[11:09] <tsoler> why should it be bad?
[11:09] <tsoler> anyway biodiversity is good
[11:09] <phillip> what is a good converter and ripper of media files
[11:09] <phillip> kinda like imtoo
[11:09] <maxflax> I get this errors when compiling.. http://pastebin.perl.se/0de8eb8970/ the imon VFD driver.. anyone know what I can do to fix it?
[11:09] <phillip> but i cant install it w. wine
[11:10] <wikijeff> Any idea why when trying to view flash videos, sometimes I only get sound?? Such as jibjab.com
[11:10] <akijikan> hello all -- looking for some help.  using alt. installation  disc/ text install. step "select and install software" fails
[11:10] <c_lisp> let me check ubuntu forumn
[11:10] <c_lisp> s
[11:10] <gourdin> anyone knows why I got this output http://pastebin.co.uk/4941 when doing a dist-upgrade in edgy eft ?
[11:10] <tsoler> and listen guys as far as concerning gis , i think they opened me a new world
[11:10] <blazemonger> compiling sources is difficult part of linux
[11:10] <Carolinamusicman> only problem I have with screensaver c_lisp is when I play a game an a screen saver kicks in after a certain amount of time so I just shut off the screensaver temporary until I finish playing game
[11:11] <idefix> what is the main difference between ubuntu and windows drivers for the same product?
[11:11] <blazemonger> ../screen-exec/.libs/libscreen-exec.a(egg-screen-help.o):/home/blazemonger/Source/glunarclock-0.32.4/screen-exec/egg-screen-help.c:171: more undefined references to `_' follow
[11:11] <blazemonger> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[11:11] <tsoler> here in grerece noone i know uses open source
[11:11] <idefix> nobody is listening
[11:11] <LordMorgoth> greetings all, i just want to ask if i can use Vim in a GUI mode not from the command line, just like the vim version for windows
[11:12] <blazemonger> tsoler:you live in Greece?
[11:12] <tsoler> yap
[11:12] <gourdin> LordMorgoth: kvim ?
[11:12] <gourdin> LordMorgoth: gvim ?
[11:12] <idefix> LordMorgoth, that exists?!
[11:12] <gourdin> =)
[11:12] <tsoler> where from blaze?
[11:12] <gourdin> LordMorgoth: kate ?
[11:12] <gourdin> =)
[11:12] <blazemonger> usa here
[11:12] <LordMorgoth> gourdin:  im using ubuntu and i didn't updated to kubuntu
[11:12] <mikedoty> Am I asking the wrong questions?
[11:12] <tsoler> haha long away
[11:12] <LordMorgoth> nope not kate :)
[11:12] <keiron> hi. How can i get my windows mount to be mounted on boot? i can only get it to mount using sudo mount -a atm. the line in fstab is: //<IP_ADDRESS>/Desktop    /home/keiron/dawn smbfs dmask=777,fmask=777  0    0
[11:12] <blazemonger> anyone know a solution to being able to build the package?
[11:13] <gourdin> LordMorgoth: and ?
[11:13] <LordMorgoth> idefix:  yes it exists in windows ...
[11:13] <tsoler> blaze: ubuntu is it popular in usa?
[11:13] <cmcrae> Ok. here goes. I am attempting to plug in a 7 port USB hub into my ubuntu system...  I am trying to make the system be able to use all 4 of my external hdd. How do I do this?
[11:13] <LordMorgoth> gourdin:  gvim ? where do i run that ?
[11:13] <dg6e74> im having serious issues with the internet/network
[11:13] <blazemonger> ../screen-exec/.libs/libscreen-exec.a(egg-screen-help.o):/home/blazemonger/Source/glunarclock-0.32.4/screen-exec/egg-screen-help.c:171: more undefined references to `_' follow
[11:13] <blazemonger> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[11:14] <gourdin> LordMorgoth: apt-cache search gvim
[11:14] <LordMorgoth> gourdin:  ohhh i just runned it from the terminal and it worked :) waw finnaly ! thanks m8 :)
[11:14] <gourdin> LordMorgoth: =)
[11:14] <blazemonger> there's alot of sources ive downloaded and alotof them won't compile
[11:14] <tsoler> anyone who may help with post gis?
[11:14] <LordMorgoth> :) see ya'all ! keep the good stuff coming :) peace out
[11:14] <blazemonger> anyone here good at compiling sources
[11:14] <morgue> Do you guys think there's any way to get MVP 2005 running on Ubuntu?
[11:14] <dg6e74> idk what i did but it works now
[11:15] <msmith> dg6e74, you might want to give a better description of your network setup and what exactly the problem(s) seem to be
[11:15] <dg6e74> network setup= internet>linux>windows with 3 nic cards
[11:15] <TheGateKeeper> blazemonger: have you installed build-essentials ?