[15:38] <rumpe1> Miebster1, need more infos (command line?)
[15:39] <apt-get_install> dfgas: ok, have u tried installing grub via livecd and then install ubuntu?
[15:39] <apt-get_install> or, install ubuntu and then insall grub?
[15:39] <Miebster1> dd ibs=1M if=package.fw2 of=package.tar
[15:39] <Miebster1> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root     93869480 Jan  3 09:29 package.fw2
[15:39] <Miebster1> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root     34000896 Jan  3 09:37 package.tar
[15:39] <jrtappers_> apt-get_install, beta or the other?
[15:40] <apt-get_install> jrtappers_: try the syable one
[15:40] <dfgas> apt-get_install: no. idk how to do that
[15:40] <Miebster1> I'm ssh'd into a device, is there an easy way to check remaining space?
[15:40] <apt-get_install> *stable
[15:40] <adam-33> Can anybody help me regarding swap encrytion?
[15:40] <mmarc__2> Please, anyone: In Ubuntu - do we have any mailing list related to PPA questions??
[15:40] <kylescottmcgill> Miebster1: df -h
[15:40] <apt-get_install> dfgas: install ubuntu as usual, then boot up via live cd
[15:41] <jrtappers_> apt-get_install, last time I tried this I had to purge it
[15:41] <dfgas> apt-get_install: already installed and on live cd right now
[15:41] <rumpe1> Miebster1, is there a reason why you only specify a custom blocksize for the input and not for the output?
[15:42] <apt-get_install> dfgas: okey, install grub2 uefi et_install, last time I tried this I had t
[15:42] <apt-get_install> jrtappers_: okey, try the beta then
[15:42] <jrtappers_> apt-get_install, think I did something wrong
[15:42] <kylescottmcgill> dfgas: are you dual booting, on an uefi motherboard, and what partition is your HDD in? GPT/MBR
[15:42] <Miebster1> rumpe1: becuase I will add skip=1, i'm just trying to trim off the first 340 bytes
[15:42] <jrtappers_> last time
[15:42] <Miebster1> yes I was running out of space
[15:42] <Miebster1> thanks guys :)
[15:42] <kylescottmcgill> Miebster1: :)
[15:43] <BluesKaj> adam-33, swap encrytion is optional not default afaik
[15:43] <apt-get_install> dfgas: opps, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[15:43] <benkaiser> Lofde_: I don't have a clue... They are apparently  releasing a galaxy nexus image in a week or so
[15:43] <BluesKaj> adam-33, encryption
[15:43] <jrtappers_> apt-get_install, downloaded it, what now, I did it wrong last time
[15:43] <Lofde_> benkaiser, thanks
[15:43] <Miebster1> Is there an easier way to trim off some bytes at the beginning of a file?
[15:43] <NeoColossus1020_> cp -fs ~/dir/test ~/dir/tmp/test.bak seemed to work.
[15:44] <adam-33> BluesKaj, when it is activated, is it using ephemeral keys?
[15:44] <BluesKaj> adam-33, what are ephemeral keys ? :)
[15:44] <jrib> NeoColossus1020_: erm, -s will make a symlink, not copy...
[15:44] <NeoColossus1020_> Right, I was wondering about that. How is it different?
[15:45] <dfgas> apt-get_install: ? i don't understand
[15:45] <xro> Hi, i use dynamips but i get CPU load = 200%... do you know the problem? is there a fix? i use 12.04
[15:45] <kylescottmcgill> NeoColossus1020_: Symlinks are basically shortcuts
[15:45] <kylescottmcgill> cp -rvf <old> <new>
[15:45] <jrib> NeoColossus1020_: it's like a shortcut that points to the original file.  If you delete the original, you'll be left with a shortcut that points to nothing :)
[15:45] <jrib> you just need cp old new
[15:45] <NeoColossus1020_> If you make edits to the original, does it effect the symlink?
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> xro  dynamips is a Cisco thingy... server?
[15:45] <adam-33> BluesKaj, as far as I know, they are alive only for a session and the next time you turn on the machine, there will be a new key.
[15:45] <apt-get_install> dfgas: u must build and install grub 2 (u)efi
[15:46] <xro> MonkeyDust, yes it is used by gsn3 (network simulator)
[15:46] <apt-get_install> dfgas: just do as the site says
[15:46] <dfgas> apt-get_install: oh i need download grub2 source?
[15:46] <jrib> NeoColossus1020_: the symlink just points to the original file.  If you make edits to the original file, then the symlink points at your file (with the edits of course)
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> xro  #ubuntu-server
[15:46] <apt-get_install> dfgas: yea
[15:47] <apt-get_install> and install it
[15:47] <apt-get_install> manually
[15:47] <BluesKaj> adam-33, no idea , I didn't even know encrypting the swap partition or the data held there was someting to be concerned about
[15:47] <NeoColossus1020_> Okay yeah, definitely don't want that then. I want to be able to to store the original as a backup and then make edits to the one copied from, having the original to go back to when needed.
[15:47] <dfgas> apt-get_install: i should be chrooted into my install right when i do this?
[15:47] <xro> MonkeyDust, why? i use it in a "normal" ubuntu distro... not a server one
[15:47] <sachael> anyone know of a civilized way of streaming radio streams in console, apart from mplayer?
[15:48] <jrib> NeoColossus1020_: cp old new
[15:48] <kylescottmcgill> BluesKaj: normally you wouldnt really encrypt it, you would leave the parition RAW, so its faster to read and write, in the GOVT everything has to be encrypted, but you could retreive stuff out of swap if your uber
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> xro  i asked "server?", you said yes... nvm the other channel then
[15:48] <Touhou11> sachael: VLC has a CLI
[15:48] <jrib> sachael: what's wrong with mplayer?
[15:48] <ivotkl> Hello. =)
[15:48] <jrtappers_> how can I fix apt get, I have an "unmet dependency" that wont install and so its all stuck?
[15:48] <jrib> jrtappers_: you need to pastebin your command and full output
[15:49] <apt-get_install> dfgas: i think so. never installed grub 2 manually before
[15:49] <kylescottmcgill> sachael: you could pipe something to your /dev/speakers but that would be a mission, i would just use mplayer, or something else like cmus or something
[15:49] <xro> MonkeyDust, ohhh i did not understand "...server?"   so, my answer is no. not server :P
[15:49] <apt-get_install> dfgas: chrooted into / should be a good idea
[15:50] <dfgas> apt-get_install: i did install grub-efi and did a grub-install and it found everything and looked like it installed but same thing, no boot partition found
[15:50] <haole> hey there... I want to create a package with checkinstall but not to install it (I don't want to give all those scripts super-user privileges), but using --install=no doesn't work... what can I do?
[15:50] <Peanut> Hi folks - I'm trying to do an automated install of a number of nodes using 'preseed'. Despite specifying language, country and locale in the preseed file, the installation still prompts me for a locale. I'm using the example on the Ubuntu site, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html
[15:50] <BluesKaj> kylescottmcgill, so wouldn't using an encrypted drive cover the defintion of encrypted data stored in swap /
[15:50] <apt-get_install> dfgas: chrooted?
[15:50] <dfgas> apt-get_install: yup
[15:51] <kylescottmcgill> BluesKaj: using an Encrypted Drive yes, but normally only partitions are encrypted (normally)
[15:51] <apt-get_install> dfgas: strange... configured grub?
[15:51] <jrtappers_> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1492332/
[15:51] <apt-get_install> dfgas:  see http://askubuntu.com/questions/143347/grub2-efi-where-is-my-efi-partition
[15:51] <dfgas> apt-get_install: it said it did
[15:51] <dfgas> maybe i am missing something
[15:51] <dfgas> i messed with boot flags and nothing either
[15:52] <kylescottmcgill> dfgas: where did you install grub? /dev/sda pr /dev/sda1 etc?
[15:52] <kylescottmcgill> on EFI boards, you need a /boot/efi partition
[15:52] <adam-33> kylescottmcgill, are you familiar with ephemeral keys?
[15:52] <kylescottmcgill> adam-33: barely, whats the issue your having?
[15:53] <BluesKaj> thank God I'm an ordinary home user withot the need for "on the job" dificulties like dealing with govt data rules :)
[16:05] <Pici> sorry
[16:05] <OerHeks> be op first ;-)
[16:05] <jrtappers_> gir
[16:05] <jrtappers_> sorry, typpo
[16:06] <bahamas> kylescottmcgill: ok, thanks. I'll write it down and try it next time I have the problem.
[16:06] <kylescottmcgill> lol, what were you trying to say?
[16:07] <bahamas> kylescottmcgill: btw, do you have a technical explanation of this error? I'm curious what's going on
[16:07] <kylescottmcgill> bahamas: good luck :) there should be a better fix unless your using the b43 drivers for a broadcom wifi adapter
[16:08] <BobMarley> hello, i am using the touchpad, when i click on something with the left click t is clicking 2 times, when i drag the gmaps, i can hardly do that, when i try to select a text somewhere with the left click and draging the touchpad i am also not able to do that, so what is happening? i was able to do that a few days ago
[16:09] <kylescottmcgill> bahamas: that error message looks like it has found another device listed on the same 'descriptor' and then it retries and it manages to fix it, because the dmesg time is close to boot up, i would say you have a conflict of drivers, so you should do some more digging and blacklist a kernal mod, generally for the time being restarting the network daemon should get you going again
[16:10] <wasutton3> does anyone know if i'll be able to download the ubuntu phone os to emulate and tinker with?
[16:10] <kylescottmcgill> BobMarley: sounds like your sensitivity is too high, you should be able to configure this in your mouse settings, and enable disable multi-touch
[16:11] <bahamas> kylescottmcgill: I see. I don't understand why there should be several drivers doing the same thing. it would make sense for ubuntu to only pack the right driver
[16:11] <bp0> I have a problem that I need help describing: In Ubuntu 12.04, if I turn bluetooth off and then wait until the display turns off/locks bluetooth cant be turned on again without restarting
[16:12] <bahamas> kylescottmcgill: btw, when I run lshw -C network, brcmsmac is listed as the name of the wireless driver
[16:12] <kylescottmcgill> bahamas: I have a Macbook with Ubuntu installed on it, and it tries to use the open source drivers, and then the closed source ones, so i have to black list the closed source ones, this is more or less a typical scenario of the kernal thinks it knows the correct ones, but in the end they dont work, so i have to pick the ones that do
[16:12] <kylescottmcgill> isnt brcmsmac no longer supported?
[16:12] <kylescottmcgill> what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[16:13] <BobMarley> kylescottmcgill, thanks
[16:13] <hamstermNICK> ban hime
[16:15] <bahamas> kylescottmcgill: 11.10
[16:15] <hamstermNICK> nn upagrdePRIVMSG #ubuntu :nn upagrde
[16:15] <kylescottmcgill> bahamas: ok, im on 12.10, and in the docs for the mactel support, it has those drivers as being old
[16:17] <bahamas> kylescottmcgill: I see. I'm reluctant to dig too deep in this driver thing, because I've had problems with the wireless in the past and only upgrading ubuntu made them go away
[16:17] <bahamas> more or less. currently, they're pretty rare
[16:17] <WeThePeople> how do i kill more that 1 proc at once>>> kill 1987 1986 1982 ???
[16:18] <TakeItEZ> WeThePeople: exactly
[16:22] <disdi> hi
[16:23] <hellslinger> ugg... does anyone know how to get "Blur Windows" back to the list of effects in CompizConfig?
[16:23] <sigma> hi guys
[16:23] <symaxian> Looking to keep one or more encrypted text files, is there an editor that will handle that in the background, if not whats the easiest way to decrypt, edit, and encrypt
[16:24] <disdi> hhhhhh
[16:24] <kylescottmcgill> symaxian: LibreOffice *might* do that, but apart from that i dont know sorry, someone else might
[16:24] <symaxian> hm, hadnt thought of libreoffice
[16:26] <jrtappers_> symaxian, Truecrypt?
[16:27] <symaxian> k, I'll check it out
[16:27] <drdoom> hi!!
[16:28] <symaxian> An old friend had a program that hid/showed a terminal window from the top of the screen, what was that?
[16:28] <AndreUbuntu> can anybody help me get my integrated webcam to work in Ubuntu 12.10.....Cheese gives a black image, so does skype.....and gstreamer-properties (which detects my HP Truevision HD cam) says [Video for Linux 2 (v4l2): Failed trying to get video frames from device "/dev/video0"]
[16:28] <cande> hi guys..
[16:28] <disdi> hi ]
[16:29] <drdoom> @symaxizn i think you ran it by typing "yakuake"
[16:29] <AndreUbuntu> symaxian, guake
[16:29] <symaxian> thanks
[16:29] <nocturius> hi, is there a way to setup LUKS encryption with the 12.10 installer while defining your own partition setup?
[16:29] <disdi> hmmm
[16:29] <nocturius> i chose 12.10 because it provided out-of-the-box encryption, but i want to multi-boot
[16:29] <user_> ciao
[16:29] <cande> i have a question regarding kernel panik during install
[16:29] <cande> where can i find information about this?
[16:30] <drdoom> How can i install python3 with python2 without breaking anything on ubuntu 12.4 LTS.I need (default)python2 for all my stuff and python3 for simple task only
[16:30] <atlef> AndreUbuntu, try luvcview
[16:31] <kylescottmcgill> cande: whats the error message of the panic?
[16:31] <drdoom> How can i install python3 with python2 without breaking anything on ubuntu 12.4 LTS.I need (default)python2 for all my stuff and python3 for simple task only
[16:31] <AndreUbuntu> atlef, luvcview also finds the device, but gives ERROR opening V4L interface: No such file or directory
[16:31] <Pici> drdoom: just install the python3 package.
[16:31] <Sazpaimon> Can someone give me some bash code to help determine the next block device? I'm trying to programmatically attach EC2 EBS volumes
[16:31] <atlef> AndreUbuntu, ah, then i dont know
[16:32] <drdoom> i will but i am afraid it will become default package
[16:32] <cande> kylescottmcgill,  Hardware Error: cpu 3: Machine check exception: 5 Bank 6
[16:32] <Pici> drdoom: it won't.
[16:32] <AndreUbuntu> thanks anyway atlef
[16:32] <Sazpaimon> so for example, if the current last block device is /dev/xvda1, the next should be /dev/xvda2, then xvda3..xvda15, then xvdb1, xvdb2, etc
[16:32] <ZenMasta> hey guys, I just tried to repurpose an old hp, the install seemed to go just fine from the live cd as well as first boot, but then 2nd boot and others I cant boot and I get this error ubuntu drm_crtc_helper_set_config *ERROR* failed to set mod on [CRTC:10]
[16:32] <drdoom> ok thanks i am going to install it
[16:32] <kylescottmcgill> cande: what CPU do you have?
[16:33] <robertoaaaa> ciao
[16:33] <cande> kylescottmcgill, intel core i5
[16:33] <robertoaaaa> !lista
[16:33] <mmonat> coming call ran over
[16:33] <robertoaaaa> !list
[16:33] <ZenMasta> so, frustrated I left it a lone for a couple weeks and just now tried booting up, I got a console but no errors, I tried to startx but its only shown the desktop background for the last 5 minutes :(
[16:34] <cande> okej, now the installation worked for once
[16:36] <sozirarak> hello, which version of ubuntu do you suggest to install in philips freevents x50gr notebook?
[16:36] <kylescottmcgill> cande: from what i have read, its your CPU 3 over heating, you should install a fan controller as soon as its all set up, what kind of laptop or desktop are you using?
[16:36] <robertoaaaa> !
[16:36] <robertoaaaa> ciao
[16:36] <robertoaaaa> !lista
[16:37] <kylescottmcgill> ZenMasta: what version of Ubuntu do you have?
[16:37] <cande> kylescottmcgill,  Samsung series 9 NP900X3C-A01SE
[16:38] <cande> SE as in swedish
[16:39] <ZenMasta> kylescottmcgill 12.10
[16:41] <kylescottmcgill> cande: if you have future problems search Google for Series 9 Overheating, there are lots of posts of people experiencing fan control issues
[16:41] <cande> kylescottmcgill, thanx, will do that
[16:42] <Steve132> I'm having trouble getting a floppy drive to work.  Anyone have any experience with that?
[16:42] <kylescottmcgill> ZenMasta: can you jump back into TTY1 and cat .xsession-errors
[16:42] <ZenMasta> Interesting thing just happened. As I mentioned, it had seemed to hault tryin g to load the desktop so I pressed the power button hoping it would do a graceful shutdown. but instead it brought me back to a terminal
[16:42] <Steve132> I'm on Ubuntu 12.10
[16:42] <ZenMasta> kylescottmcgill ok brb have to walk over to that computer
[16:42] <kylescottmcgill> kk
[16:43] <kylescottmcgill> ZenMasta: sudo dmesg might give you some more hints as to what is happening too, but by the sounds of it you need to install some GFX drivers, or something
[16:44] <ich> oh
[16:44] <kylescottmcgill> If lightdm (login screen works) but nothing after that it might be something else, xsession-errors should give you an idea of whats going wrong
[16:44] <kylescottmcgill> also sudo service lightdm restart can help sometimes
[16:47] <christine_> hi i have ubuntu 12.04 and i need the patch for preciswe
[16:47] <christine_> pricision
[16:48] <kylescottmcgill> precise?
[16:48] <ZenMasta> kylescottmcgill there was a lot scrolling on screen really fast
[16:48] <ZenMasta> I'm gonna install open ssh so I dont have to keep running back and forth
[16:49] <kylescottmcgill> ZenMasta: sounds like your xsession doesnt like you, so it could be a couple of things, but if you less .xsession-errors you can scroll through it
[16:49] <kylescottmcgill> ZenMasta: before you go
[16:49] <lessshaste> how do you get chromium to open word attachments using libreoffice and not abiword?
[16:49] <kylescottmcgill> ZenMasta: rm .xsessions-errors ; sudo service lightdm restart
[16:49] <christine_> hi can anyone help me with a patch for precision ubuntu 12.04
[16:49] <kylescottmcgill> then try login, wait for it to stall
[16:50] <ZenMasta> okay Ill try that
[16:50] <kylescottmcgill> jump into TTY1 and less .xsession-errors and you will have fresh errors to look at, at the very top it should say something that went wrong
[16:50] <kylescottmcgill> and give us something to google
[16:50] <AndreUbuntu> Anybody can help with: gstreamer-properties-Message: Error running pipeline 'Video for Linux 2 (v4l2)': Failed trying to get video frames from device "/dev/video0"
[16:50] <rhinux> Hi all! I have a ubuntu 12.10 and can't login anymore, worked long time w/o probs. After entering Password in GUI Login, short blinking into textmode (bit cant read anything) and back to Login, _without_ error msg "wrong PW"  or something else. I can login via Alt-Ctrl-F1 to textconsole, but in which log file should I search for understand the problem and repair it?
[16:51] <kylescottmcgill> lessshaste: you have to change the mime / default file associations, inside System Settings under Details there will be a default Applications menu
[16:51] <Steve132> I try putting any disk in my floppy drive, and it says "input/output error" when I navigate to /media/floppy and run ls
[16:51] <Dj_FlyBy> would it be wise/easy to "upgrade" a media/web server from 10.04 LTS to 12.04.1 LTS through the "Update Manager" ?
[16:51] <rsser> ae, does it take long time to release ubuntu mobile? I saw the Mark Shuthland talking about ubuntu mobile
[16:51] <kylescottmcgill> Steve132: LOL really?
[16:51] <kylescottmcgill> a floppy disk :D
[16:51] <skulltip> i purchased legend of grimrock through the ubuntu store. when i install the next version of ubuntu, will it see i already purchased it in 12.04?
[16:52] <yugnip> lessshaste, you can right-click a word type file and choose "open with" and choose libreoffice rather than abiword
[16:52] <rsser> Sutherland*
[16:52] <lessshaste> yugnip, you can't sadly in gmail
[16:52] <yugnip> you click that file once it's downloaded
[16:52] <Steve132> kyelescottmcgill: yep
[16:52] <lessshaste> yugnip, it seems that ubuntu is set to open that type of file with abiword
[16:52] <lessshaste> yugnip, sure but I would like the default app not to be abiword
[16:53] <kylescottmcgill> rhinux: ~/.xsession-errors will have most of your X Server errors, thats a good place to start
[16:53] <yugnip> when you right click you have the option to set as default
[16:53] <Steve132> If I open /lib/udev/rules.d/80-udisks.rules like http://www.securitybeacon.com/?p=1110 suggests, I see something else completely, something about disabling ide devices and floppies
[16:53] <yugnip> lessshaste, the option for default is there, just check the box
[16:53] <jrtappers> Can someone help, I rebooted after some commands and i've lost unity
[16:54] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: what were the commands?
[16:54] <lessshaste> yugnip, there isn't one.. I am in lubuntu which may make a difference
[16:54] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: sudo apt-get install unity will reinstall it
[16:54] <disdi> KICK _IRON
[16:54] <disdi> kick _iron
[16:54] <rhinux> @Steve132 cooool! I still have some old 3 1/2" Disks and the older 5 1/4" are gone. my old drive crashed, so I cant read the old data anymore :(
[16:54] <Steve132> kylescottmcgill: My parents have a new computer, but the mobo has a floppy connection, we have old floppy drives lying around, and my family has years of old backups of stuff archived on floppy disk from the 90s
[16:55] <yugnip> lessshaste, should not matter, there should be a box when you choose open with that says use as default
[16:55] <Steve132> that they never got rid of
[16:55] <Pici> disdi: can we help you?
[16:55] <disdi> i am learning irc
[16:55] <Steve132> soo...it seems appropriate to make sure their new ubuntu machine has a working floppy drive so they can recover all those old memories..
[16:55] <kylescottmcgill> Steve132: fair enough, as for mounting your Floppy Disk, im sorry i havnt used floppy on linux before, someone else might be able to help sorry :)
[16:55] <disdi> sry to offend anyone
[16:55] <yugnip> lessshaste, should not be different with thunar as opposed to nautilus
[16:55] <Steve132> ok
[16:55] <Pici> disdi: learn in your own channel please, #ubuntu is busy enough as it is.
[16:56] <nearst> hii
[16:56] <lessshaste> yugnip, ok.. thanks
[16:56] <Dj_FlyBy> would it be wise/easy/safe to "upgrade" a media/web server from 10.04 LTS to 12.04.1 LTS through the "Update Manager" ?
[16:56] <kylescottmcgill> lessshaste: was the Default options not in System Settings -> Details? alternatively you could sudo apt-get remove abiword
[16:57] <fogus> How do I find out what user bind9 is being started as by "service"?
[16:57] <kylescottmcgill> Dj_FlyBy: is this a production server? eg are you hosting other peoples stuff on it?
[16:57] <home-horim> hi, i'm on ubuntu and looking for a dvd burnung program that allows spanning over multiple disks
[16:58] <Dj_FlyBy> kylescottmcgill: Production yes, but all the sites are my own. so a little downtime isn't so bad if it happens.
[16:58] <lessshaste> kylescottmcgill, systems setings doesn't have details
[16:58] <kylescottmcgill> Dj_FlyBy: i would back it up and sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade ; sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:58] <yugnip> lessshaste, see my screenshot and not where the cursor is http://imgur.com/dksGg
[16:58] <qhartman> fogus, as root or with sudo do "ps aux | grep bind" it will tell you what user is running the process.
[16:59] <kylescottmcgill> but fresh installs are always preferred (at least in my opinion)
[16:59] <qhartman> fogus, You can also look in the init scripts, it should be listed there.
[16:59] <RollinV2> anyone here have ubuntu running on the c7 chromebook? i have a few performance questions
[17:00] <Dj_FlyBy> kylescottmcgill: what would be the critical things to backup? I am assuming it won't delete my data... or is that wrong to assume
[17:00] <home-horim> hey, do you know any?
[17:00] <fogus> So, I'll go the init route.
[17:00] <home-horim> i can't burn the regular way
[17:00] <kylescottmcgill> lessshaste: oh right sorry :) you could try something on here : http://www.howtogeek.com/117709/how-to-change-your-default-applications-on-ubuntu-4-ways/
[17:00] <nearst> whats up
[17:01] <lessshaste> yugnip, I am looking at it
[17:01] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, I think its an X11 problem KDE is broken aswell
[17:01] <home-horim> do you know where can i get help with a burning software that allows spaning?\
[17:01] <kylescottmcgill> Dj_FlyBy: i wouldnt think it would either, it would be safe to assume that your user data is safe, but i would back up your sites, mysql (if you use it) and your apache host file(s)
[17:02] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill,  I have screenlets , wallpaper and desktop icons
[17:02] <WeThePeople> when i drag and drop a icon from /usr/share/applications the icon doesnt show up on my desktop..??
[17:02] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: did it go into Fallback mode?
[17:02] <jrtappers> I don't know
[17:02] <jrtappers> I can run terminal and xchat
[17:03] <jrtappers> so how can I fix this problem?
[17:03] <kylescottmcgill> hmmm, wierd... thats all you need? isnt it :)
[17:03] <kylescottmcgill> if Unity wont install i would check your .desktop files
[17:03] <kylescottmcgill> hang on i will find the path
[17:03] <atlef> home-horim, there is diskspan,
[17:03] <philinux> home-horim: i think k3b can do it not sure about brasero
[17:03] <fogus> qhartman: where in the init script is the username?  I see that "bind" is mentioned, so I changed the ownership to bind:bind, but that didn't help.
[17:03] <jrtappers> no, unity is installed, just not working
[17:03] <jrtappers> same with KDE, so it may be X11 to blaim
[17:03] <yugnip> lessshaste, i just checked and it works with thunar and pacmanfm as well as nautilus
[17:04] <lessshaste> ok thanks
[17:04] <lessshaste> yugnip, not in archive manager it seems
[17:04] <lessshaste> yugnip, which doesn't have such an option
[17:04] <lessshaste> gnome archive manager that is
[17:04] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: i would check your these files to make sure they are set correctly, locate .session
[17:04] <yugnip> lessshaste, opeing an archive is different than a word file
[17:05] <Safa_[A_boy]> I loved ubuntu for phones ^_^
[17:05] <lessshaste> yugnip, right but the word file is in the zip in this particular case
[17:05] <lessshaste> yugnip, so I am opening the word file
[17:05] <kylescottmcgill> .xsession-errors should have errors in it relating to your unity and KDE not apprearing properly too
[17:05] <yugnip> lessshaste, you can choose which archiver to open an archive, OR you could choose which app to open a word file
[17:05] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, where is that?
[17:05] <Safa_[A_boy]> is there a way for translating it?
[17:05] <yugnip> lessshaste, in either case you must right click that specific file
[17:06] <lessshaste> yugnip, right.. a) when in gmail I have no option it just opens abiword.. if I choose the download as zip option from gmail it gives me archive manager then
[17:06] <kylescottmcgill> ~/.xsession-errors
[17:06] <kylescottmcgill> so
[17:06] <kylescottmcgill> less ~/.xsession-errors
[17:06] <lessshaste> I just need to change the defaults in lubuntu somehow
[17:07] <yugnip> lessshaste, download the file, unzip it, right click and make default changes, then from now on it will be as you chose
[17:07] <kylescottmcgill> lessshaste: sudo update-alternatives –config editor then after you have made your changes, sudo update-alternatives –all
[17:07] <kylescottmcgill> if yugnip's suggestion doesnt work
[17:07] <atlef> home-horim, or dar "disk archive"
[17:08] <qhartman> fogus, what
[17:08] <jrtappers> Sorry, no web browser so no pastebin
[17:08] <qhartman> 's your actual problem?
[17:08] <jrtappers> james@ubuntu:~$ cat .xsession-errors
[17:08] <jrtappers> /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:08] <jrtappers> /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:08] <jrtappers> gnome-session[2170]: WARNING: Session 'ubuntu' runnable check failed: Exited with code 127
[17:08] <jrtappers> unity-2d-panel: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:08] <FloodBot1> jrtappers: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:08] <jrtappers> unity-2d-shell: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:08] <fogus> qhartman: I am getting this error in my bind startup log: "isc_stdio_open '/var/log/bind.log' failed: permission denied"
[17:08] <lessshaste> kylescottmcgill, sudo update-alternatives –config editor
[17:08] <lessshaste> update-alternatives: error: unknown argument `–config'
[17:09] <qhartman> fogus, what are the permissions on that file? I assume it's owned by bind:bind?
[17:09] <lessshaste> kylescottmcgill, --config
[17:09] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, so whats the problem
[17:09] <lessshaste> kylescottmcgill, that's the wrong set of options.. it is all about emacs
[17:09] <fogus> qhartman: I tried bind:bind, but also root:bind.
[17:10] <yugnip> lessshaste, my suggestion works
[17:10] <jrtappers> Sorry for the flood, I can only open xchatt and terminal, so I had no other way of showing logs
[17:10] <kylescottmcgill> lol
[17:10] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: pastebin dude :)
[17:10] <kylescottmcgill> sounds like you need to reinstall libgl
[17:10] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: pastebin dude :)
[17:10] <kylescottmcgill> sounds like you need to reinstall libgl
[17:10] <FloodBot1> kylescottmcgill: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:10] <fogus> qhartman: the init.d/bind9 file sets root:bind for the pid file, so I thought I would try that also
[17:10] <lessshaste> yugnip, sure but I still want to change the defaults :) I will ask on askubuntu
[17:10] <yugnip> lessshaste, it's the proper way to do it as the terminal config is harder than necessary if you arent used to it
[17:10] <lessshaste> I am only used to the terminal!
[17:11] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, how?
[17:11] <yugnip> lessshaste, you are changing the defaults when you click set as default
[17:11] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ie=UTF-8&ion=1#hl=en&safe=off&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=libgl.so%20ubuntu%20missing&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=67d470d6a8c6f26c&bpcl=40096503&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.dGY&biw=1918&bih=974
[17:11] <qhartman> fogus, that's a good idea. You will also need to make sure the permissions are right, not just the ownership. Look at the permissions on the pid file and set the log file the same
[17:11] <jrtappers> No browser
[17:11] <jrtappers> I have xchat and terminal
[17:11] <qhartman> jrtappers, install elinks or lynx and you will have a rudimentary browser
[17:11] <kylescottmcgill> ok hang on then
[17:12] <kylescottmcgill> locate libGL.so
[17:12] <kylescottmcgill> try find libgl first
[17:12] <jrtappers> unable to locate package
[17:12] <rhinux> @kylescottmcgill thanks for advice with ~/.xsession-errors, I tried in /var/log/* I have to reboot from livecd because of ecryptfs /home partition and the mount private doesnt work from here...
[17:12] <fogus> qhartman: I tried 777
[17:13] <josh__> Hi ! I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and my titlebar (the one with the options for minimise, maximise and close) is missing. How do I restore it ?
[17:13] <home-horim> hi, can you tell me what is the software suggested here ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=124328
[17:13] <kylescottmcgill> rhinux: ok good luck
[17:13] <home-horim> i can't enter it
[17:13] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: locate is a command
[17:13] <kylescottmcgill> oh wait
[17:13] <kylescottmcgill> nevermind
[17:14] <kylescottmcgill> cd / ; find . | grep -i libgl.so
[17:14] <home-horim> hi, can you tell me what is the software suggested here ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=124328
[17:14] <jrtappers> locate works, gives back a list
[17:14] <Miebster1> what is a linux alternative for greenshot?
[17:15] <kylescottmcgill> ok so according to the Fix, you would
[17:15] <home-horim> i hate ubuntu and windows alike
[17:15] <n0yd> Anyone currently using cairo-dock on 12.10? Im having an issue with autohide that I cannot get passed. Tried xfce, tried, gnome, it happens regardless of DE.
[17:15] <kylescottmcgill> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/path/to/libGL.so.1 /usr/lib/
[17:15] <nearst> hmm. i think ubuntu main repo must be joking. replace stable apps with buggy one
[17:16] <n0yd> When I set cairo-dock to autohide, it doesnt come back on mouseover, unless I happen to mouseover the exact area where the foregound applications icon would be.
[17:16] <qhartman> fogus, and when you checked it after setting those permissions it showed "rwxrwxrwx"?
[17:16] <fogus> yes
[17:16] <fogus> same error
[17:16] <n0yd> If I mouseover in that exact spot, the dock will come back, otherwise  it stays hidden.
[17:16] <qhartman> fogus, try 770 instead
[17:17] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: after that, type: unity --reset ; unity --replace; and logout and login if it doesnt appear
[17:17] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1492551/
[17:17] <fogus> qhartman: "Jan  3 17:17:08 ns01 named[20273]: isc_stdio_open '/var/log/bind.log' failed: permission denied"
[17:17] <jrtappers> how do I logout from terminal
[17:18] <n0yd> Damn, I figured no one would have a clue about cairo-dock, oh well, worth a shot.
[17:18] <qhartman> fogus, it's also possible the permissions on the log directory aren't set correctly
[17:18] <josh__> jrtappers, 'exit'
[17:18] <kylescottmcgill> hang on
[17:18] <fogus> qhartman: drwxr-xr-x
[17:18] <ZenMasta> kylescottmcgill I rebooted, and everything appeared to load fine, after a few minutes of use my screen went black and now it is just displaying error after error. The monitor is not turning off but it keeps flashing black and then printing more stuff on the screen
[17:19] <qhartman> fogus, that should be ok
[17:19] <fogus> (for /var/ and /var/log/)
[17:19] <kylescottmcgill> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1 /usr/lib/
[17:19] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: ^^
[17:19] <kylescottmcgill> then sudo service lightdm restart
[17:19] <kylescottmcgill> this will take you to the login screen
[17:20] <fogus> qhartman: selinux and apparmor are off
[17:20] <kylescottmcgill> ZenMasta: at least its a little better? .... you might need some new drivers too
[17:20] <nearst> ZenMasta, ive face that in my eeepc, ima only use recovery mode to skip that bug flashing
[17:21] <kylescottmcgill> nearst: is it a known bug? whats your gfx card in your eeepc?
[17:21] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, still not working
[17:21] <nearst> intel 945GE
[17:22] <josh__> kylescottmcgill, Your suggestion,  "unity --reset" , worked for me. Thanks ! :)
[17:22] <ee12059> ,y,yy
[17:22] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: what does xsession-errors say now?
[17:22] <ee12059> lui
[17:22] <ee12059> uiluil
[17:22] <ee12059> uilil
[17:22] <ee12059> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1492567/
[17:22] <kylescottmcgill> lol josh__ your welcome
[17:22] <nearst> im set with verbose nomodeset but still flashing, so recovery mode is the way to skip that flashing
[17:22] <jrtappers> cannot open shared object file, no file or directory
[17:23] <jrtappers> libGL.so
[17:23] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: ok, so now if you locate libGL.so is it in /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
[17:24] <nearst> kylescottmcgill, any idea how to fix that flashing?
[17:25] <iScet> Hello!
[17:25] <kylescottmcgill> nearst: are you on or near the eeepc now? i dont know if there would be a error log for that
[17:25] <ZenMasta> kylescottmcgill the flashing happened after using the desktop ui, even before the screen started flashing it was having some graphical anomalies, especially when trying to open the dashboard launcher thing. At first it looked like it froze but then it just showed the terminal and all those errors but I couldn't' seem to "get out" so I could type any new commands or anything
[17:25] <nearst> im on eeepc now
[17:25] <kylescottmcgill> it could be a incorrect xrandr setting, like the hsync is off or it could be gfx drivers, it could really be a million things :S
[17:25] <anomalies> ZenMasta, did i having graphical?
[17:26] <anomalies> just kidding :P
[17:26] <kylescottmcgill> lol
[17:26] <iScet> hey. i was wanting to install the newest ubuntu... i have a dualboot setup now of Mac-Win7 on my HP Probook... was wondering best way to go about repartitioning to not lose any data... anyone have a good idea?
[17:26] <UnnamedUser951> Hello. After i mount an SMB share using cifs through /etc/fstab and i try to access/browse it trough apache i get the error "CIFS VFS: Unexpected loockup error -20" on the console. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[17:26] <benkaiser> Hey anyone know what could cause this error: "error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when trying to play N http://www.thewayoftheninja.org/n_downloads.html
[17:26] <i3ear> Hey I have a question. I am trying to get my system to boot from usb but it doesn't natively support booting from usb. Can I get it to boot from usb using a burned CD or something?
[17:26] <kylescottmcgill> ZenMasta: you could try nomodeset on the grub boot line, or seeing if you have some newer drivers, if you can google, try googling your GFX card and ubuntu flashing
[17:27] <Dj_FlyBy> kylescottmcgill: thanks for the info. Ill do a backup of all critical stuff before going ahead with it then. better safe than sorry
[17:27] <Muphrid> i3ear: you have to boot from a burned cd which has no relation to usb at all
[17:27] <nearst> i3ear, maybe your usb not properly booting setup, maybe bios
[17:27] <kylescottmcgill> Dj_FlyBy: no problem
[17:27] <yugnip> i3ear, try plop
[17:28] <i3ear> nearst, this computer is quite old
[17:28] <kylescottmcgill> nearst: yeah im not sure, flashing monitors can be a couple of things
[17:28] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, Still not working, and all users on my pc are afftecred, tried logging in as guest
[17:28] <nearst> i3ear, ya. try to change bios boot order
[17:29] <nearst> kylescottmcgill, im not really sure what is the cause, im replace with grub-pc also not work. just confuse. loo
[17:29] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: can you get to a browser at all? phone/other pc?
[17:29] <yugnip> i3ear, try plop for older comps http://www.plop.at/en/ploplinux/features.html
[17:29] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, I can get to the browser but I cannot multitask
[17:30] <jrtappers> I installed a text browser
[17:30] <i3ear> yugnip, alright I will
[17:30] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: http://goo.gl/yQkuj
[17:30] <yugnip> i3ear, it should enable you to install from usb on a comp that is too old to allow it
[17:30] <nearst> i3ear, maybe antiX
[17:31] <UnnamedUser951> Hello. I have mounted an SMB share using cifs through /etc/fstab and when i try to access it trough apache using firefox i get the error "CIFS VFS: Unexpected loockup error -20" on the console. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[17:31] <fogus> qhartman: oh, apparmor is a peristant guy.
[17:31] <kylescottmcgill> brb
[17:32] <Sach> Accidentally deleted a Tomboy note.  Is there a way to recover it?
[17:32] <ZenMasta> when I boot I don't see the grub loader, this time when I tried to boot up, it just brought up tty1 and some errors
[17:32] <ZenMasta> maybe I should use a different distro or older release?
[17:33] <nearst> ZenMasta, did u try from recovery mode?
[17:33] <alexandr> привет
[17:33] <ZenMasta> how am I supposed tog et to recovery mode?
[17:33] <atlef> !ru | alexandr
[17:34] <nearst> aww
[17:35] <nearst> ZenMasta, try uncomment the GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true" in /etc/default/grub then sudo update-grub
[17:36] <floridsdorf> hi
[17:36] <Apachez> any of you running data=writeback on any of your linuxservers ?
[17:38] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, that didn''t work
[17:38] <arch_> hello. I am having an issue and I could really use some advice... I went to save a file and I noticed in the Places list there is something called "Kev's Phone". I have no idea what or who Kev is. When I hover over it it says it's an ftp link.
[17:38] <jhutchins_wk> ZenMasta: You should probably read the error messages on the console and try to understand them.
[17:39] <jhutchins_wk> ZenMasta: They're probably trying to tell you what is wrong so you can try to fix it.
[17:42] <fogus> In case anyone was curious: it was apparmor.
[17:44] <nearst> fogus, why with apparmor?
[17:44] <fogus> it wouldn't let bind log
[17:45] <Sach> Accidentally deleted a Tomboy note.  Is there a way to recover it?
[17:46] <dryhay> webcam/mic problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2101000
[17:51] <kubanc> Can i install CPanel in ubuntu server 12.10?
[17:51] <ZenMasta> doesn't nomodeset only affect graphics before loading the desktop gui?
[17:51] <Therion87> Yes
[17:51] <Therion87> to kubanc
[17:53] <xxbug3rxx_> Hello everyone!
[17:53] <seednode> Hello
[17:53] <xxbug3rxx_> I'm trying to configure a printer/scanner, anyone have experience?
[17:53] <skulltip> silly question, if i purchase something in ubuntu software center using 12.04, can i reinstall after installing 12.10+ versions?
[17:53] <seednode> No, sorry, I just have a print server
[17:54] <xxbug3rxx_> seednode: thanks anyways.
[17:55] <beachbrake> this is the reply to sudo apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1492641/
[17:55] <jrtappers> how can I fix when unity fails to load because of missing libGL.so
[17:55] <seednode> beachbrake, when that happens to me, I usually just kill dpkg
[17:55] <seednode> But that's not exactly safe.
[17:55] <seednode> So don't trust me on this
[17:56] <rom> can some one help me hount my disk from a live cd?
[17:56] <seednode> My guess is there's a program installing in another TTY or something
[17:56] <beachbrake> i tried installing skype
[17:56] <beachbrake> it says the same thing.
[17:57] <seednode> rom, you want to mount a disk
[17:57] <seednode> ?*
[17:57] <nearst> lol
[17:57] <rom> yes
[17:57] <nearst> hi rom. got your pic yet ?
[17:57] <seednode> What's the device label of your CD drive?
[17:58] <nearst> sr0?
[17:58] <rom> no i got it working yesterday by your help <nearst> thanks
[17:58] <rom> but i tried today the same way
[17:58] <rom> not getting it?
[17:58] <nearst> why ? always start with sudo :)
[17:59] <Sach> Accidentally deleted a Tomboy note.  Is there a way to recover it?
[17:59] <jrtappers> can I copy files from one wubi install disk to another? I have a backup of some files on a wubi disk
[17:59] <rom> 1 sec il give u the link
[17:59] <kylescottmcgill> back
[17:59] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill,  Still not working
[18:00] <nearst> Sach, try whereis tomboy
[18:00] <jrtappers> I have got a backup of /usr/lib/ but its on a wubi disk
[18:00] <Sach> nearst: sorry, what do you mean?
[18:01] <nearst> what u mean delete? on panel bar ? whereis tomboy will give u the link app for execute
[18:01] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: ok, it should find those files, which is wierd, the only other thing i can suggest at this point is to re-install libgl
[18:01] <jrtappers> how can I do that?
[18:01] <kylescottmcgill> sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx (i think, there is about 10 libgl's)
[18:02] <nearst> yup
[18:02] <rom> http://pastebin.ca/2299105
[18:03] <rom> pls check out n let me know?
[18:03] <linuxnoob> hello, I've been having trouble setting up my rs232/uart with my microcontroller, is there anyone who'd like to help? I can't seem to be able to find out which device I should select...
[18:03] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: sudo apt-cache search libgl | grep -i opengl # will list all of the relevant ones at the top
[18:04] <nearst> rom, not sda2, sdb2, sdb3 and sdb5
[18:04] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: im guessing you need the runtime
[18:04] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, reinstalling the one you said has triggered a lot of movement, so it might work
[18:05] <kylescottmcgill> f i hope so :D
[18:05] <rom> oh that is lame i guess, thanks anyways, do i do the same with sdb?
[18:05] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, can I use an old copy of the wubi root disk to fix this , copy some files over?
[18:05] <nearst> yup. make folder sdb3 and sdb5. then mount
[18:06] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: i would avoid it, if the libgl was built on another machine, if it was built on the machine your on, you *might* be ok
[18:06] <rom> thanks dude, need to learn a lot!
[18:06] <jrtappers> It was built on my machine, this si just a copy of the wubi disks from a week or so ago
[18:06] <jrtappers> Il try a reboot now
[18:06] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: ok good luck
[18:07] <nearst> :) ima usually use remastersys to backup my distro
[18:07] <Bsims> Cups Printing is amazingly slow with my postscript printer... its taking it over two minutes to process the test page, I realize I am running in a vM but 4gigs of ram and a 3ghz cpu shouldn't print that amazingly slow any ideas?
[18:11] <isr45> .
[18:11] <losplaya_> hello chaps is this the right place for beginners
[18:12] <mikubuntu> aaaaarrrrrrrrrgggghhhh ... dvd won't play -- error msg says 'dvd may be encrypted' -- its a library copy of 'prince of persia' -- could someone tell me what i may need to install?
[18:12] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, IT WORKED!!!
[18:12] <Tex_Nick> losplaya_ : it's a ubuntu support channel for users of all levels
[18:13] <nearst> jrtappers, nice
[18:13] <losplaya_> thanks for that That Tex Nick
[18:13] <isr45> could anyone tell me that what is the meaning of "."  and "+" in a file permissions -rw-rw-rw. or -rw-rw-rw-+ ?
[18:13] <Tex_Nick> losplaya_ : np :)
[18:13] <jrtappers> isr45, it that x?
[18:14] <losplaya_> right where do i start
[18:14] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: lol awesome, i was hoping it would lol
[18:14] <nearst> isr45, man -k permission
[18:14] <isr45> jrtappers: yeah
[18:14] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, I uninstalled the one you said and about 50 things uninstalled because of dependencies
[18:14] <jrtappers> A package landslide
[18:14] <losplaya_> any one can help out with icast as im trying to to setup a internet station
[18:14] <kylescottmcgill> lol
[18:14] <jrtappers> isr45, Its the execute permission
[18:15] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: what i would like to know is why it decided to break
[18:15] <kylescottmcgill> jrtappers: but none the less im glad its sorted
[18:15] <jrtappers> kylescottmcgill, maybe it wanted to be like windows for a while
[18:15] <isr45> jrtappers: i want to know the meaning of "." and "+"
[18:15] <kylescottmcgill> lol
[18:15] <jrtappers> isr45, the x at the end is execute
[18:16] <nearst> idk how to explain it.
[18:16] <jrtappers> try making a .sh script, it wont run, its text
[18:16] <jrtappers> change the execute and its a script and it will run
[18:16] <rom> http://pastebin.ca/2299108
[18:17] <rom> pls tel me what to do now?
[18:17] <iwoj> I'm trying to connect an external Mac OS drive to my ubuntu machine, but the permissions don't map nicely.
[18:17] <Pici> isr45: where do you see the + or . ?
[18:17] <isr45> could anyone tell me that what is the meaning of "."  and "+" at the end of a file permissions -rwxrwxrwx. or -rwxrwxrwx+ ?
[18:17] <iwoj> is there a way to say "uid x on the external drive maps to user y on my local machine"?
[18:17] <isr45> Pici: at the end of a file permission
[18:18] <losplaya_> icast help any one
[18:18] <atjehcyber> can i get some introduct /tmp and /var on linux used for what ?
[18:18] <Pici> !hier | atjehcyber
[18:19] <nearst> losplaya_, ive no experience on icast. but u can ask any problem here.
[18:19] <Pici> isr45: I don't recall ever seeing that in an ls output.
[18:19] <losplaya_> cheers nearst
[18:19] <kylescottmcgill> isr45: yeah same, can you paste an example?
[18:20] <kylescottmcgill> one line will do too btw :)
[18:21] <losplaya_> my site will not work with the (www) prefix http://msmatty.co.uk
[18:21] <xibalba> how can i mirror an ubuntu mirror's 12.04.1 ISO list ?
[18:21] <xibalba> i want to grab all files from : http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/12.04.1/
[18:21] <mikubuntu> after i RE-installed libdvdread4 -- now the dvd is playing but the video quality is all messed up
[18:21] <xibalba> wget just grabs the robots.txt file and dies
[18:21] <mikubuntu> aaaaarrrrrrrrrgggghhhh ... dvd won't play -- error msg says 'dvd may be encrypted' -- its a library copy of 'prince of persia' -- could someone tell me what i may need to install?
[18:21] <nearst> losplaya_, that mean u not setup www in your dns nameserverrrrrr
[18:21] <mikubuntu> after i RE-installed libdvdread4 -- now the dvd is playing but the video quality is all messed up
[18:21] <losplaya_> mikubuntu did you do an update after installing
[18:22] <killer> what does emacs-goodies-el package contains
[18:22] <Siver> Hi, I'm wondering how I could export my ubuntu config and import it between 2 ubuntu VMs on the same machine. Anyone who could point me to a good article regarding this?
[18:22] <nearst> mikubuntu, try with vlc? or smplayer?
[18:23] <losplaya_> let me look at that again nearst ill get back to on that
[18:23] <losplaya_> thanks
[18:23] <ElysiumNet> is it possible to duplicate an ubuntu installation with dd to a different system with a slightly different hardware configuration?
[18:23] <Glowball> Can I find a full list of software differences between normal Ubuntu and Ubuntu Gnome Remix?
[18:23] <spm_Draget> Where are the launcher-icons on the left configured (which file) ?
[18:23] <mikubuntu> losplaya, i just did the command from the page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[18:23] <jrtappers> Is elemental OS luna based on Ubuntu
[18:24] <xibalba> i just switched to an FTP site
[18:24] <xibalba> looks to be working
[18:24] <nearst> losplaya_, sure. u can test with dig too
[18:24] <SPYGAME> hey, i'm using ubuntu 10.04 and my headphones stopped working. any ideas ?
[18:24] <ElysiumNet> the harddisk available on the remote system is equal or more than on the source system
[18:24] <jrtappers> Cause all the Icons seem simi;ay
[18:24] <xreal> Do you know "Connectify Dispatch"? You can combine any type of connection to ONE and use their combined speed. But it's win32 only. Is this possible for Linux, too?
[18:24] <mikubuntu> yes nearst i tried several players -- i did not reboot though, should i try rebooting
[18:25] <jrtappers> xreal, I would want connectify hotspot firat
[18:25] <lampe2> hey i wanne make a complete system backup to my usbstick how can i achive this ? thx for the help
[18:25] <xreal> jrtappers: I don't have use for this :p
[18:25] <jrtappers> Windows 7 wifi virtual is one of the few reasons I use 7 now
[18:26] <Sach> nearst: sorry, what do you mean?
[18:27] <Sach> Accidentally deleted a Tomboy note.  Is there a way to recover it?
[18:31] <Tex_Nick> lampe2 : have a look at this ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311
[18:31] <WeThePeople> sach, check trask
[18:31] <WeThePeople> trash
[18:31] <Sach> WeThePeople: Thanks, but what is trask?
[18:32] <nearst> grr.. askbuntu is fun
[18:32] <WeThePeople> sach, trash
[18:32] <kylescottmcgill> Sach: also check ~/.local/share/tomboy there may be a backup there, if not, it might be gone gone
[18:33] <Sach> kylescottmcgill: at that location, there is a backup folder.  Is this is folder of deleted tomboy notes?
[18:33] <losplaya_> what do i need to change in my name servers to get my www prefix to work please
[18:33] <nearst> sudo apt-get install tomboy
[18:33] <mrmcgibby> My .xsession-errors file was growing out of control, so I deleted but forgot that other processes are holding it open and I can't reclaim the space.  Any ideas?
[18:33] <fezzik> hi
[18:33] <Guest88590> when I start cheese, it seems the device it uses is polled from /dev/video0 to some other /dev/videoX.....randomly at different values. During this time, the image is black...then it stops at some value, and the image starts. What's going on?
[18:33] <nearst> losplaya_, setup www to your ip.
[18:33] <kylescottmcgill> mrmcgibby: you should fix a lot of those errors if you can
[18:34] <mrmcgibby> kylescottmcgill: I don't follow
[18:34] <kylescottmcgill> Sach: maybe, try cat <tomboynote> and see if the one your missing is their
[18:34] <antonio__> I'm trying to find out why openshot isn't working
[18:34] <mrmcgibby> kylescottmcgill: I fixed the problem with the file growing, but now I have a huge file that won't go away because other processes are using it.
[18:35] <Sach> kylescottmcgill: what is cat?
[18:35] <nearst> meow
[18:35] <losplaya_> im going to try and work that thanks
[18:35] <kylescottmcgill> mrmcgibby: .xsession-errors are errors generated by X Server (your GUI for everything) there will be an application that is throwing all of its errors in there, i would try to fix some  of them to prevent that file getting too large
[18:36] <mrmcgibby> kylescottmcgill: Yeah, I fixed the problem there.
[18:36] <kylescottmcgill> mrmcgibby: you should be able to sudo rm .xsession-errors and it wont cause any problems but it will re-create that file and fill it up
[18:36] <tflgen2> Hey everyone, just installed 12.04 lts server and am trying to get an email server up and running. I'm having an issue with saslauthd stating that "sasl plain authentication failed: no mechanism available"
[18:36] <ElysiumNet> what is the best way to copy a machine?
[18:36] <tflgen2> ElysiumNet: rsync
[18:37] <mrmcgibby> kylescottmcgill: But it won't actually.  The other processes will still want to write to the deleted file.
[18:37] <nearst> use remastersys and make your own iso and install anywhere :)
[18:37] <ElysiumNet> tflgen2: entirely
[18:37] <kylescottmcgill> Sach: sorry these are command line commands, if you using the file manager to get there, just copy those to another location and try open them in Tomboy or Libre Office
[18:37] <tflgen2> ElysiumNet: or clonezilla. what are you trying to do?
[18:37] <ElysiumNet> mysql database, nginx settings, user permissions, etc
[18:37] <ElysiumNet> I am trying to get my production server to another production server :P
[18:38] <ElysiumNet> with the least amount of disruption possible. this means not stopping services
[18:38] <kylescottmcgill> mrmcgibby: so, when you open a terminal and sudo rm .xsession-errors ; what does it say?
[18:38] <tflgen2> ElysiumNet: you should have no trouble rsyncing everything as root between the systems. the only issue is some db's that may not be correctly copied
[18:38] <losplaya_> im behind a home router will that make a difference
[18:38] <mrmcgibby> kylescottmcgill: It's deleted.  But lsof shows (correctly) that a bunch of other processes still using the old file.
[18:38] <ElysiumNet> tflgen2: wouldn't that set the permissions of everyone to root?
[18:38] <ElysiumNet> *everything
[18:39] <ElysiumNet> I am fine with copying the database seperately at the last minute
[18:39] <bekks> mrmcgibby: It will be released after the last file handle is released.
[18:39] <ElysiumNet> but wouldn't copying /etc/ cause problems?
[18:39] <rypervenche> tflgen2: You may have problems with InnoDB tables, yeah.
[18:39] <bekks> mrmcgibby: Until then, it is still there, but not accessible anymore for new processes.
[18:39] <mrmcgibby> bekks: but it's huge and it doesn't look like the processes are going to release it anytime soon.
[18:39] <rypervenche> tflgen2: I would just dump the databases then reimport them.
[18:39] <kylescottmcgill> mrmcgibby: as bekks said, also when you logout and login that file will be recreated
[18:39] <kylescottmcgill> how big was the file?
[18:40] <mrmcgibby> bekks and kylescottmcgill: I'd rather figure out how to make the file zero size.
[18:40] <ElysiumNet> rypervenche: mysql user data...
[18:40] <kylescottmcgill> mrmcgibby: those errors are there for a reason
[18:40] <tflgen2> ElysiumNet: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync
[18:40] <bekks> mrmcgibby: Release all file handles, and it will be gone.
[18:40] <nearst> zero size?
[18:40] <kylescottmcgill> mrmcgibby: but if you REALLLY dont want it
[18:40] <rypervenche> ElysiumNet: So dump all the databases at once then.
[18:41] <kylescottmcgill> ln -s /dev/null .xsession-errors
[18:41] <mrmcgibby> Okay, figured it out.  You can access a deleted file by using /proc/<pid>/fd/<fd>.  So if I just do # > /proc/2026/fd/2 it clears out the file./
[18:41] <ElysiumNet> rypervenche: *user data*. this includes passwords and such
[18:41] <ElysiumNet> which requires something else to dump and import properly
[18:41] <ElysiumNet> but I'll figure that out later
[18:42] <mrmcgibby> space reclaimed without logging out.
[18:42] <rypervenche> mysqldump --all-databases
[18:42] <m1r0> Hello?
[18:42] <callie> hi m1r0
[18:42] <kylescottmcgill> mrmcgibby: im curious to know how large that file actually was
[18:42] <mrmcgibby> kylescottmcgill: 126 G
[18:43] <kylescottmcgill> lol
[18:43] <m1r0> I am having trouble installing ubuntu, although ubuntu (says it installs successfully), and it is on the hard disk, it is not being written to mbr, so my computer is booting straight to windows
[18:43] <kylescottmcgill> you know
[18:43] <m1r0> My computer has two harddisks, and ubuntu is being installed on the second one
[18:43] <kylescottmcgill> it should rotate
[18:43] <callie> m1r0, have you seelcted the boot loader drive during the install?
[18:43] <kylescottmcgill> and then delete itself after a couple of logins etc
[18:43] <mrmcgibby> kylescottmcgill: probably
[18:44] <mrmcgibby> kylescottmcgill: indicator-weather was going crazy and writing to it at about 1mb/s
[18:44] <m1r0> Callie: Here's the situation
[18:44] <m1r0> I had an older version of ubuntu dualbooting with windows on this computer
[18:44] <m1r0> then the grub got corrupted
[18:44] <ElysiumNet> rypervenche: that does not include user data...
[18:44] <m1r0> so I told windows to fix mbr and boot directly into windows
[18:44] <ElysiumNet> tflgen2: that article specificly omits /etc/
[18:45] <m1r0> now, I'm trying to update ubuntu, so I tell the installer to update
[18:45] <tflgen2> no it doesn't. it excludes /dev
[18:45] <ElysiumNet> er, nevermind
[18:45] <ElysiumNet> I thought that said --include
[18:45] <m1r0> (I've also tried to tell it to erase existing ubuntu and reinstall), but it's not installing the bootloader (GRUB)
[18:45] <tflgen2> ^.^
[18:45] <kylescottmcgill> m1r0: you need to change the boot order, if you installed grub on to the second disk
[18:45] <kylescottmcgill> by default your BIOS will use the first boot drive which would be windows
[18:45] <bones_> hi
[18:45] <callie> m1r0, you have to chroot from a livecd, and install grub from there
[18:45] <rypervenche> ElysiumNet: What exactly do you mean when you say user data?
[18:45] <bekks> mrmcgibby: Why didnt you stop indicator-weather then...?
[18:45] <m1r0> How do I do that?
[18:45] <ElysiumNet> rypervenche: username
[18:45] <ElysiumNet> and password, permissions, etc
[18:46] <tflgen2> ElysiumNet:
[18:46] <rypervenche> ElysiumNet: Of what? The database users?
[18:46] <ElysiumNet> last time I did an export/import of that data, it ended in ruins
[18:46] <m1r0> I'm going to see if bios lets me specify a hard drive to boot from
[18:46] <Guest15336> hello friends
[18:46] <tflgen2> whoops. password and user are kept in /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow for local users
[18:46] <ElysiumNet> rypervenche: one does not just export/import the "mysql" database -_-
[18:46] <ElysiumNet> tflgen2: different thing :P
[18:46] <tflgen2> ElysiumNet: gotcha
[18:46] <rypervenche> ElysiumNet: You can, but it may not be what you want.
[18:47] <ElysiumNet> rypervenche: percona probably has what I need
[18:47] <kylescottmcgill> ElysiumNet: you can do a mysql-dump of all dbs and then mysql-admin to import them again
[18:47] <abgeek> www.geeknepal #join for technology news and tutorials
[18:47] <ElysiumNet> kylescottmcgill: completely different thing >_<
[18:47] <callie> m1r0, you want to read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2 to install grub back on the first drive
[18:47] <mrmcgibby> bekks: I did
[18:48] <kylescottmcgill> ElysiumNet: ok i will shutup :D
[18:48] <bekks> !hcl > bekks
[18:48] <Apachez> didnt ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server kernels merge into the same kernel or did I miss something?
[18:48] <m1r0> I've tried to reinstall grub
[18:48] <kylescottmcgill> nearst: PM'd you
[18:49] <nearst> got it. im doing some conf at terminal. this eeepc almost dead. lol
[18:52] <nearst> why m1r0
[18:54] <guest414561> Can any one tell me what the best partition scheme would be for a 250G HD
[18:55] <bekks> guest414561: There is no such "best" scheme. It all depends on your needs, requirements and wishes.
[18:56] <guest414561> i want to be able to reinstall without losing media and settings
[18:56] <bekks> guest414561: Just backup everything before.
[18:56] <nearst> use side by side while installation
[18:57] <bazhang> guest414561, use a separate home partition, for starters
[18:58] <coyotekid> I'm trying to install a driver and new to Ubuntu. Used "source" command but it doesn't seem to be recognized. Is there another I should use?
[18:58] <jrtappers> Swap
[18:59] <jrtappers> Swap, Home, /
[18:59] <bekks> coyotekid: What exactly are you trying?
[18:59] <coyotekid> . setup is working.
[18:59] <coyotekid> but I get an alert that i need to be root and it quits.
[19:00] <bekks> coyotekid: What is ". setup" supposed to do?
[19:00] <coyotekid> and when I sudo then dot isn't working, for some reason.
[19:00] <bekks> coyotekid: And which Ubuntu do you have exactly?
[19:00] <coyotekid> dot setup, that should have read. dot setup is working. setup is my script.
[19:00] <bekks> coyotekid: do you want to source it or do you want to execute it?
[19:00] <coyotekid> it's a script to install drivers for a kodak scanner.
[19:01] <guest414561> I was reading the below link but it does not seem to give size recommendations http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/requirements.html#number
[19:01] <Pici> coyotekid: source is a shell built-in, its not an executable program.
[19:01] <bekks> coyotekid: And which Ubuntu do you have exactly?
[19:01] <coyotekid> I thought dot and source were the same?
[19:01] <coyotekid> for running a bash script?
[19:01] <Jordan_U> coyotekid: They are, but "./foo.sh" is different from ". foo.sh"
[19:01] <Pici> coyotekid: its not the command to run a bash script, its more like 'including' it.
[19:01] <bekks> coyotekid: No. Run a script like "./script" and source it like ". ./script"
[19:01] <coyotekid> it's the recent stable unbuntu.
[19:02] <Guest12784> hi, i'm trying to install Ubuntu via USB stick, but I'm having some trouble
[19:02] <coyotekid> I'm not using it with the slash, as a locater.
[19:02] <Guest12784> I've tried converting the desktop image via http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx, and also just using netboot/boot.img.gz. However, each time the usb is not recognized as a option during boot. I've tried booting it on a Mac and a PC. Any thoughts on what could be the matter?
[19:02] <coyotekid> I'm using it as an abreviated source, which isn't working.
[19:02] <coyotekid> but dot "is".
[19:02] <coyotekid> but not when sudo.
[19:03] <bekks> coyotekid: Sourcing is not executing a script.
[19:03] <rypervenche> coyotekid: What is the exact command that you're trying to run?
[19:03] <coyotekid> I'm in the dir with a script called "setup".
[19:03] <coyotekid> when I run ". setup" is works, but tells me I need to be root.
[19:04] <coyotekid> then when I sudo it no longer works.
[19:04] <bekks> ". setup" does NOT run that script.
[19:04] <Pici> coyotekid: 'source' has the side effect of running the code, but thats not what it is for.
[19:04] <coyotekid> well, actually, it does.
[19:04] <bekks> "./setup" will, ". setup" wont.
[19:04] <coyotekid> I get all the info from Kodak, along with info about what drivers will install.
[19:05] <coyotekid> but then it says I need to be root and says hit enter to quit.
[19:05] <Pici> coyotekid: use: sudo ./setup
[19:05] <coyotekid> I've read dot is the same as "source" in a unix book. Are you saying that's wrong?
[19:05] <Pici> coyotekid: no.
[19:06] <Pici> coyotekid: but its not the proper way to run a script.
[19:06] <rypervenche> coyotekid: I believe that you are confusing what "source" does.
[19:06] <coyotekid> it was my Bash book, by O'reilly, if I'm not mistaking.
[19:06] <rypervenche> coyotekid: . is short for source, yes. But . can also mean "the current working directory".
[19:07] <coyotekid> I'll try with the ./ but that just seems like I'm saying where the setup file is.
[19:07] <coyotekid> which doesn't say execute, like dot does.
[19:07] <ElysiumNet> tflgen2: I have noticed that if I do an rsync of /etc/, it will also copy over the ip configuration and software RAID stuff...
[19:07] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: You still need to either be root or use sudo.
[19:07]  * rypervenche facepalms.
[19:07] <coyotekid> or source, if in fact they're one and the same.
[19:07] <ElysiumNet> is that a good thing?
[19:07] <Pici> coyotekid: YOu need to look at your book again.
[19:07] <rypervenche> coyotekid: "source" does nat mean execute.
[19:08] <tflgen2> ElysiumNet:
[19:08] <rypervenche> not*
[19:08] <bekks> coyotekid: They arent the same, and ". " is not the proper way to run a script.
[19:08] <coyotekid> so when in sudo . is being read as here. But when not in sudo it seems to be read as source. That makes sense.
[19:08] <tflgen2> damnnit i hate this irc client….. ip configuration will have to be edited as will fstab
[19:08] <rypervenche> coyotekid: Simply typing out the path to your setup script will execute it.
[19:08] <ElysiumNet> any other files I need to be aware of?
[19:08] <Jordan_U> coyotekid: Giving the path to an executable file *does* say that you want to execute it. Try giving the full path to any executable in the shell.
[19:09] <ElysiumNet> also, the partitions are far larger than on the source machine. I imagine this would screw up the software RAID a bit
[19:09] <tflgen2> you'll also have to install the boot loader on the second machine
[19:09] <nearst> tflgen2, u can use manually setup than dhcp
[19:09] <Jordan_U> coyotekid: The only exception is where the directory is not specified, where the shell then looks for the executable in all of the directories in $PATH.
[19:09] <ElysiumNet> tflgen2: doesn't it already have a boot loader?
[19:09] <tflgen2> ElysiumNet: is it a bare system? i.e. no OS?
[19:09] <rypervenche> coyotekid: You can run "sudo ./setup" or "sudo /home/username/Downloads/setup", either will work. (assuming what's where your script is located)
[19:09] <ElysiumNet> tflgen2: I'm rsyncing to it... I'm pretty sure an OS has to be installed already
[19:09] <ElysiumNet> but yeah, ubuntu is already installed on it
[19:09] <tflgen2> nope, not necessary
[19:10] <rypervenche> coyotekid: "source" is something completely different. Do not focus on that.
[19:10] <ElysiumNet> rsycing over the network
[19:10] <coyotekid> the bash book says to run a script run source. The has a asterisk and says "you can also use the synonymous command dot (.).
[19:10] <coyotekid> that's read right from the book.
[19:10] <Jordan_U> coyotekid: You'll notice that "sudo source setup.sh" will fail in exactly the same way as "sudo . setup", and both are equally wrong in this case.
[19:10] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: It might be helpful to read the bash manpage entry for "source".
[19:10] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: You are not understanding what the bash book means to tell you.
[19:11] <rypervenche> coyotekid: Then you're either misreading or you've got a bad book.
[19:11] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: You are also confusing commands and paths.
[19:11] <tflgen2> "For GRUB, it's recommended that you automatically re-generate the grub.cfg file:" i.e. #update-grub
[19:11] <kubanc> is there any software similar to CPanel for ubuntu server
[19:11] <coyotekid> "Source executes the commands in the specified file..."
[19:11] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: source setup will search your path for a program named setup.
[19:11] <coyotekid> Maybe this O'reilly book is wrong.
[19:12] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: No, just your understanding of it.
[19:12] <Jordan_U> coyotekid: What coyotekid just told you is wrong.
[19:12] <coyotekid> I'm not confusing paths. dot has multiple uses.
[19:12] <padi999> hi all
[19:12] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: The dot by itself does not specify a path.
[19:12] <padi999> Is anyone in here into fotography/filming and has a gopro hero 3?
[19:12] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: ./ does specify a path, the current directory.
[19:13] <Jordan_U> coyotekid: Sorry, what jhutchins_wk just told you is wrong. source does not search $PATH.
[19:13] <coyotekid> No, what I wrote in quotes was quoted from the O'Reilly book.
[19:13] <rypervenche> coyotekid: Let's get you a better guide then.
[19:13] <jhutchins_wk> Jordan_U: Quoting the manpage, " If filename does not contain a slash, file
[19:13] <jhutchins_wk>               names in PATH are used to find the directory containing filename."
[19:13] <Jordan_U> coyotekid: It executes the commands in the file in the current shell, which is not what you want, and is not what is generally meant by "executing a script".
[19:13] <coyotekid> both dot and source have both worked for me up until now. INterchangably.
[19:14] <coyotekid> The only problem I think here is that I'm trying to use it as an argument to sudo.
[19:14] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: That is just a coincidence.
[19:14] <Jordan_U> jhutchins_wk: I stand corrected, sorry. Still I would find it odd to use source that way.
[19:14] <Pici> coyotekid: that definitely won't work for something that isn't a bash script though.
[19:14] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: If the setup file is executable, sudo ./setup will work.  If not, sudo bash ./setup
[19:15] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: Try not to let what you have done before prevent you from learning what is correct.
[19:15] <coyotekid> It's not an executable, I'm trying to run a bash script.
[19:15] <GunArm> which release made unity standard?
[19:16] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: A bash script may be executable.  Not AN executable, we're talking about permissions in this case.
[19:16] <Jordan_U> coyotekid: A bash script is an executable file (at least when it has execute permissions).
[19:16] <coyotekid> Maybe I'm confused. I'll just mess with it. I don't usually work outside of bash. I'm now messing with a local Ubuntu install for the first time.
[19:16] <blackline> I'm trying to mount a network folder at boot (fstab) according to this manual: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1658828
[19:16] <jhutchins_wk> coyotekid: Yes, you're confused.  Try what we have suggested.
[19:16] <blackline> The network is reachable in Ubuntu 12.10 already but I want it mounted in a folder.
[19:16] <Jordan_U> coyotekid: Also, where did you get this script from? Installing drivers via a script should generally be avoided if possible.
[19:16] <blackline> Anyone that could help me out?
[19:18] <thebishop> Using the file/folder chooser in 12.10 several apps fail to set my selection properly.  in at least Deluge, Sound Converter, and Audacity, I choose my save path, and they just use the default anyway (which is my home folder).  Seems like a nautilus problem.
[19:18] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: First try mounting it manually.
[19:18] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, good idea. from what I understand it's samba. it's a popcorn hour that share a folder. how do I mount it manually?
[19:19] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, what info do I need?
[19:19] <rypervenche> coyotekid: Check my private message please.
[19:19] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: mount -t cifs //server/share /mount/point
[19:20] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: mount -t cifs //server/share /mount/point -o credentials=/path/to/credentials
[19:21] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //pch-c200/share,"
[19:21] <blackline> same message as when i tried in fstab
[19:21] <superdmp> I try to install libpq-dev: "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! libpq5 libpq-dev" - I am on Ubuntu 10.10
[19:21] <superdmp> what do you suggest?
[19:22] <TheLordOfTime> superdmp, upgrade to 11.10
[19:22] <TheLordOfTime> or something newer (10.10's EOL)
[19:22] <superdmp> TheLordOfTime:  I can't do that on this machine
[19:22] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: Then //pch-c200/share is not a CIFS share.  NFS maybe?
[19:22] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: Try it without the credentials first.
[19:23] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, i tried NFS aswell. If I look at the specifications it has both NFS and SAMBA-support.
[19:23] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | superdmp
[19:23] <jhutchins_wk> superdmp: Where are you installing that from?  THe message means you do not have a matching signature file.
[19:23] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, i'm not using credentials now (while mounting)
[19:24] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: What kind of system is sharing the folder?
[19:24] <superdmp> jhutchins_wk:  I used sudo apt-get install
[19:24] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/index.php?pluginoption=catalog&mainItemId=20
[19:24] <superdmp> I realise this system is out of date, but I am not currently in a position to update it
[19:24] <Jordan_U> superdmp: Why not?
[19:24] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, and as said, i can reach it in system (with credentials).
[19:24] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: What kind of system is sharing the folder?  Windows?  Linux?
[19:24] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, it should be linux-based, somehow. it's a media center.
[19:25] <jhutchins_wk> Jordan_U: Whether or not he updates his system is not really relevant to his problem.
[19:25] <aring> Hi.  I just got a new laptop and I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.10 Desktop on it from a burned disc image and I'm having some problems.  I'm hoping someone here can help.
[19:26] <superdmp> Jordan_U:  I realise it's out of date, but at the moment, I am not in a position to update it
[19:26] <kylescottmcgill> Anyone have Ubuntu install macbook 9,2? and fixed the Wifi Dropoff/timeout issues, nothing i have tried works very well, its driving me insane
[19:26] <Jordan_U> superdmp: Why not?
[19:26] <kylescottmcgill> installed*
[19:28] <aring> when I go to boot from the CD I get the first boot screen from ubuntu (the dark... blue? purple? something), then it goes to the flashing underscore.  It flashes for a while then, adjusts to a higher resolution, flashes some more then freezes.  I tried to run to check disc utility, but it also hangs in the same way.
[19:28] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: You bought a device that only has manuals in French and Russian?
[19:28] <Jordan_U> !nomodeset | aring
[19:28] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, there should be more languages, wait.
[19:28] <superdmp> Jordan_U:  if you have some suggestion on how what to do about this issue, *given that I am not in a position to update the system*, that would be greatly appreciated
[19:29] <superdmp> more so than an interrogation about why I can't update it right now
[19:29] <aring> I'll try that and let you know if it works, thanks.  :)
[19:29] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, http://files.syabas.com/popcornhour/download/PopcornHour_C-200_UserGuide.pdf
[19:29] <jhutchins_wk> superdmp: What I was asking is what is the source of the file you're trying to install?   Is it an official Ubuntu repository, a mirror, a ppd?
[19:30] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: I was obliquely suggesting that you might readn the manual, but I'll have a look, not doing anything else right now.
[19:31] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, sorry. yes i've read it when i set it up and it "should" be samba. i have no problems reaching it, i can reach it from this computer as well.
[19:32] <dada9293> ciao
[19:32] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, i'm not sure how the manual could help me with mounting so i would really appreciate your help.
[19:32] <dada9293> !lista
[19:32] <ZenMasta> kylescottmcgill didn't have any luck with recover mode but I ended up downloading and isntalling all the latest updates, and changing the driver. seems to be running fine for the last hour
[19:32] <nearst> cool.
[19:34] <superdmp> jhutchins_wk: well, this is my sources.list file: http://dpaste.com/862206/
[19:34] <superdmp> should I find some other information to answer your question?
[19:35] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: So you have external storage attached to the device and have shared a folder on that device which you are trying to mount.   You may not have correctly set it up as a samba share.
[19:35] <kylescottmcgill> ZenMasta: sorry we couldnt get it sorted without you having to go through all of that, im glad it works now though :)
[19:35] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, no it's not external, it's a internal sata drive which i've connected internally in the popcorn hour.
[19:37] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: 7.1.2 of the manual.
[19:37] <Timvde> I have just installed Ubuntu, but: 1) My touchpad scrolling doesn't work; 2) Windows 8 wasn't detected, so I can't boot to it anymore...
[19:37] <nearst> why?
[19:38] <jhutchins_wk> superdmp: You'll have to use a different paste service, I can't reach that one.  Got a very suspicious site instead.
[19:39] <superdmp> jhutchins_wk:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1492886/
[19:41] <bakis_> did anyones system just get super fucked up on the newest update?
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> bakis_  language
[19:41] <bakis_> sorry
[19:41] <nearst> ouch. what happen bakis_
[19:41] <bakis_> i installed the latest updates and my resolution is stuck at 800x600 and none of my window managers are working right
[19:42] <nearst> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[19:42] <nearst> or xrandr -q
[19:42] <Jordan_U> bakis_: Were you using proprietary drivers?
[19:43] <jhutchins_wk> superdmp: I don't see anything wrong with your sources, try aptitude update && aptitude upgrade to maybe update the key.
[19:43] <bakis_> Jordan_U: yeah i believe i was using the nvidia proprietary package
[19:43] <superdmp> thanks jhutchins_wk  I will try that
[19:43] <superdmp> jhutchins_wk: by the way, what was the issue with dpaste.com?
[19:43] <jhutchins_wk> superdmp: Enterprise Firewall probably.
[19:44] <bakis_> nearst: it's saying max is 800x600
[19:44] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, there is no problem reaching it through Nautilus at "smb://pch-c200/share/"
[19:44] <bakis_> from xrandr -q
[19:44] <Sove> this is getting ridiculous, this linux machine here keeps getting file system errors in sda1
[19:44] <nearst> ya. i having the same issue atm bakis_
[19:45] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, If I look at the settings interface on the Popcorn hour the SAMBA client is up and running.
[19:45] <Sove> I already fixed it yesterday, but now it's back
[19:45] <Sove> I'm not really in the mood to keep fixing it everyday
[19:45] <Jordan_U> Sove: Have you checked the SMART status of the drive? What type of errors (do you have a log from fsck)?
[19:45] <Sove> Need the commands
[19:45] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, i've looked up the ip-adress for the device if it's any help.
[19:46] <Sove> I'm not exactly savvy with linux stuff
[19:46] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: You might be able to browse it with smb://<server> but cifs doesn't think it's a samba share.
[19:46] <bakis_> nearst: are you also using nvidia prop drivers?
[19:46] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, how do we change cifs mind? :)
[19:46] <superdmp> jhutchins_wk:  output from aptitude update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1492896/ - that doesn't look right to me, with all those errors
[19:47] <jhutchins_wk> Sove: File system errors are not normal.  What errors?  We can't tell you how to fix it without knowing the errors. You can use the history command to see what commands you used yesterday.
[19:48] <Jordan_U> Sove: sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
[19:48] <Sove> Yesterday I just used fcsk
[19:48] <Sove> It said sda1 had errors
[19:48] <aring> Alright, I tried running the livecd with nomodeset.  It got to a prompt (ubuntu@ubuntu) and i could input a few commands (ls, pwd, etc).  It then tried to run something else, I believe it might have tried to launch to GUI, however it just went to a black screen.
[19:49] <Sove> I used the live CD to get it fixed with sudo fcsk.ext3 -f /dev/sda1
[19:49] <nearst> bakis_, nope, im on intel gm915
[19:49] <jhutchins_wk> Sove: Not knowing what you might have done to damage the filesystem errors showing up a second time usually means that the life of the drive is very limited.
[19:49] <Noskcaj> to run steam in ubuntu do i need 12.04 or can the non-lts build run it fine?
[19:49] <bakis_> nearst: weird. is anyone else having this issue?
[19:49] <jhutchins_wk> Sove: You might have two weeks, you might have two days, you might have two minutes.
[19:49] <Sove> I didn't do anything to it
[19:49] <jhutchins_wk> Sove: In that case the physical drive is dying.
[19:50] <Jordan_U> Sove: Please pastebin the output of the command I gave, and if you get the corruption again please pastebin the full output from fsck.
[19:50] <jhutchins_wk> I suppose there's a chance it's a loose cable or something but continuing corruption is a hardware problem.
[19:50] <nearst> bakis_, so my max now is 800x600 :) . what can i do. make font small. lol
[19:51] <kylescottmcgill> bakis_: you could try setting a new mode, this didnt work for nearst i will admit
[19:51] <bakis_> haha hopefully they'll just release a fix sometime soon, until then i'll just use my laptop i guess
[19:51] <Sove> I'm not able to install that tool
[19:51] <Jordan_U> jhutchins_wk: It could be the somewhat spurious error from fsck that many are experiencing that appears to be caused by upstarted failing to properly unmount filesystems at shutdown: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1073433
[19:51] <bakis_> kylescottmcgill: is there any way to roll-back the update?
[19:51] <jhutchins_wk> bakis_: Check dmesg an /var/log/Xorg.0.log for relevant errors.
[19:52] <kylescottmcgill> bakis_: what was your screen res prior to the upgrade?
[19:52] <bakis_> 1920x1080
[19:52] <Anunaki> hi
[19:52] <Jordan_U> Sove: Are you still booted into the LiveCD?
[19:52] <kylescottmcgill> whats your gfx card?
[19:52] <Sove> No
[19:52] <nearst> kylescottmcgill, yup. hihi
[19:52] <jhutchins_wk> Jordan_U: Ouch.\
[19:52] <bakis_> geforce gtx 560 ti
[19:52] <Sove> Just the root console from recovery
[19:52] <kylescottmcgill> are you using open or closed source drivers?
[19:52] <bakis_> closed i believe
[19:52] <kylescottmcgill> also yeah, what does Xorg log say?
[19:53] <Catbus_> tiem for black metal
[19:53] <Catbus_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvi45xje6w
[19:53] <Sove> I'll go and boot it uo from the cd
[19:54] <bakis_> kylescottmcgill: just a second. i ran nvidia-settings and it said i'm not using an nvidia card, so i re-ran nvidia-xconfig and i'm gonna restart x
[19:54] <kylescottmcgill> kk
[19:54] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, I found this thread http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showthread.php?tid=14940 and tried "sudo mount -t nfs -o noauto,rsize=32768,wsize=32768,noatime,tcp <IP_ADDRESS>:/share /mnt/popcorn" but it's the same error.
[19:54] <bakis_> so.. be right back
[19:55] <Jordan_U> jhutchins_wk: Indeed. It doesn't actually corrupt anything, but it shows that upstart is failing at a basic requirement of an init system (at least if the current theory on the cause is correct).
[19:55] <ElysiumNet> should I get 12.04 or 12.10?
[19:55] <Anunaki> anyone have probs with the latest ubuntu and bluetooth?
[19:55] <Jordan_U> ElysiumNet: Do you like upgrading every ~6 months?
[19:55] <ElysiumNet> Jordan_U: no
[19:56] <nudelsuppe> hi, in jockey i see two AMD driver but no obvious difference. which one should i choose?
[19:56] <skp1> haha
[19:57] <reprogr`> hi
[19:57] <Jordan_U> ElysiumNet: Then you'll probably be happier with Ubuntu 12.04 as it's an LTS release. If you stick with LTS releases then you can upgrade once every ~2 years, as you can go directly from one LTS release to the next and they are supported for longer.
[19:58] <aring> I can't seem to get ubuntu to install on my new laptop.  nomodeset got me farther, but it still didn't work.
[19:58] <nudelsuppe> nudelsuppe, hi
[19:58] <ElysiumNet> alrighty
[19:58] <ismell> ello, i'
[19:58] <Anunaki> i just installed ubuntu 12.10 gnome via wubi. bluetooth isnt working...
[19:58] <h00k> !lts | ElysiumNet this may have more info
[19:59] <Jordan_U> Anunaki: I highly recommend against using Wubi, though that's almost certainly not the cause of your bluetooth problems.
[19:59] <ismell> i'm running 12.04. How do i get the alt+f2 key combination to open the run dialog? everything I find seems to be about 11.10.
[19:59] <jhutchins_wk> Sove: This problem is being actively worked.  You could try installing 12.04 instead of 12.10.  One suggested workaround is to shut down networking manually before shutting down/rebooting the system.
[20:00] <jhutchins_wk> Sove: As Jordan_U said, it's a "cosmetic" bug - there really isn't anything wrong with the actual filesystem, it was just not shut down properly.
[20:00] <ismell> I tried installing ccsm but I can't change the run dialog key
[20:00] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, i installed nfs-common and it seems that i reached further, new error message: "sudo apt-get install nfs-common "
[20:00] <Jordan_U> jhutchins_wk: We don't know that that is the problem Sove is having until we get the output from fsck.
[20:00] <blackline> sorry jhutchins_wk, the error was: "mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting <IP_ADDRESS>:/share"
[20:01] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: Ah, well, a bit confusing that it gave "wrong filesystem type" before, but now it's permissions/credentials.
[20:01] <jhutchins_wk> I'm not scoring very well this afternoon.
[20:01] <aring> I have a brand new ibuypower CZ-17 and I can't seem to install ubuntu on it.  Can someone please help me?
[20:02] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, maybe. but now i installed nfs and tried mounting as nfs, in compare with samba before.
[20:02] <WeThePeople> how to disable tor from running in the background
[20:03] <Anunaki> Jordan_U im using ubuntu now... not liking the desktop side bar but it works just bluetooth dont
[20:03] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: Did you go through 7.1.4 and set up access to the share?
[20:03] <kylescottmcgill> WeThePeople: sudo service tor or tord stop
[20:04] <Sove> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/xTUPNPdh
[20:04] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, yes i used nautilus to open the share with my credentials. that was never an issue. i reached it that was from start.
[20:04] <Sove> That's what I got with smartmon thing
[20:05] <WeThePeople> kylescottmcgill, do you know how to stop the daemon from restarting on boot?
[20:05] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: Mounting an NFS share at boot is a bit different.
[20:05] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, "<IP_ADDRESS>:/share                  /media/popcorn        nfs   noauto,rsize=32768,wsize=32768,noatime,tcp" ?
[20:06] <Jordan_U> Sove: That looks good, it says that your drive appears to be fine hardware-wise.
[20:06] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo#Mount_at_startup
[20:06] <Sove> Then what could ber wrong with the file system
[20:06] <jhutchins_wk> Sove: Jordan_U Did find a bug that is causing problems like this.
[20:07] <Sove> The comouter worked fine since istall
[20:07] <Sove> This started yesterday
[20:07] <Sove> And it worked in the morning
[20:07] <Sove> Now it happened agai
[20:08] <hskafi> hello
[20:08] <hskafi> I'm running precise pangolin
[20:09] <atlef> !ask | hskafi
[20:09] <hskafi> my processor fan starts only at 70 C
[20:09] <jhutchins_wk> Sove: Do you restart the system often?
[20:10] <hskafi> ubottu: very well then
[20:10] <nearst> lol
[20:11] <jhutchins_wk> hskafi: Fans are usually controlled by the BIOS.  What do you want to have happen instead?
[20:12] <hskafi> my processor fan works fine when i boot into ubuntu, but after a suspend or hibernation, my processor fan would only work when the processor reaches a temperature of 70 C, I'm running a core2duo 2.1 GHz on a toshiba laptop.
[20:12] <jhutchins_wk> hskafi: Ok.
[20:13] <hskafi> jhutchins_wk: it's not being controlled by bios correctly while on ubuntu, on windows it's working correctly, but on ubuntu it messes up
[20:13] <mollymandy> Hello
[20:14] <bakis_> yeah none of it worked
[20:14] <aring> I've tried to launch LiveCD, version 12.10 on my laptop using nomodeset flag.  This got me past the hang on flashing underscore and instead to a blank screen.  If I press power it goes through the text shutdown process, and so appears to have launched Ubuntu, however it was not displayed on my screen.  I am using an ibuypower CZ-17 laptop.  It has an nvidia graphics card.
[20:14] <bakis_> i'm probably just gonna wait until a new update comes out and fixes it..
[20:14] <Sove> jhutchins_wk, it's my mom's, she restarts it everyday
[20:15] <Sove> http://pastebin.com/4dQGcPT5 Seems like I'm not able to perform the fix anymore, either
[20:16] <Jordan_U> Sove: That is a serious error, not the one from the bug report I linked to.
[20:18] <Sove> And yes
[20:18] <Sove> That same error was what happened yesterday
[20:18] <Sove> But the fix worked that time
[20:18] <Anunaki> anyway to enable onscreen keyboard at suspend log in?
[20:19] <nearst> bakis_, u able to skip that flashing by recovery mode
[20:19] <Anunaki> whats a distro thati can install without keyboard?
[20:20] <ruyss> Hi, I just installed xampp for linux and now I would like to use it's php in my terminal, anyone that can help me to do that?
[20:20] <nearst> install without keyboard?
[20:20] <bazhang> !xampp | ruyss
[20:20] <Jordan_U> Sove: Is all of your Mother's data backed up?
[20:21] <Sove> No
[20:21] <Sove> We don't really have anything to back up data into
[20:21] <Tex_Nick> Anunaki : at the login screen, there should be an accessibility icon where you can enable onboard
[20:22] <whoever> hi all, is nbstat prart of net-tools? I am tring to run nbstat , and i have net-tools  but keep getting command not found
[20:22] <Sove> That computer was not always a linux comouter, it used to be a Vista
[20:22] <Sove> then it was Mint
[20:22] <Sove> Then it became ubuntu
[20:22] <Jordan_U> Sove: What type of files are most important to her? If they're documents then they are probably small enough that they can all be stored on Ubuntu One/Dropbox/email easily.
[20:22] <bazhang>  File nbstat found in nmap    whoever
[20:23] <Sove> I have no idea about her stuff
[20:24] <nearst> :D
[20:24] <Sove> I figured you're suggesting a reinstall, which I'm not really bothering to do today, it takes too long
[20:24] <Jordan_U> Sove: Backing up is always important. You should figure out what files are important to her and get them backed up somehow, and soon.
[20:25] <Jordan_U> Sove: I'm suggesting that not having backups of important data is bad, and more so when you're getting unexplained filesystem errors.
[20:25] <pangur> My "All Settings" page does not include the option to change what programs to run on startup.  How do I fix that please?
[20:25] <Sove> When it comes to computers and mom, she's a boot
[20:26] <bakis_> nearst: what?
[20:26] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, I suppose I made some progress. I've managed to enter the line in fstab and ran "sudo mount -a" without any errors. The folder I've pointed at is empty though, so the files/folders doen't show. This is the line in fstab: "<IP_ADDRESS>:/share /mnt/popcorn nfs credentials=/root/nfs/credentials,rw,uid=1000,gid=1000,noauto,noatime,tcp 0 0"
[20:26] <Martijn-NL> Hi everyone - i have a question: is there a tool available for Ubuntu that recovers CD errors? For example light scratches on the CD? Thanks a lot!
[20:27] <Sove> Eh
[20:27] <Sove> If the disc can't be read, neither can the tool do so
[20:27] <Jordan_U> monkeymon: For data CDs, ddrescue.
[20:27] <pangur> Where can I set what programs to run on start up?
[20:28] <pangur> I am trying to configure a Logitech Performance Mouse MX.
[20:28] <jrtappers> Martijn-NL, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/21876/rescue-old-damaged-cds-with-an-ubuntu-live-cd/
[20:28] <Jordan_U> monkeymon: For audio CDs, cdparanoia might help.
[20:28] <Martijn-NL> The disc is readable... only not for the full 100%
[20:28] <jrtappers> Just skip the live cd bit
[20:29] <jrtappers> That will give you an ISO file, which you can burn to a new unscratched cd
[20:30] <Tex_Nick> Martijn-NL : you can polish those scratches out with a piece of felt and sone fine grade abrasive car polish ... i do it all the time
[20:31] <pangur> Is there a way of adjusting the number of available options in the "All Settings" page?
[20:32] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: noauto will cause it not to mount at boot.
[20:32] <Tex_Nick> pangur : if you're using unity ... type startup in dash
[20:33] <pangur> thanks Tex_Nick  :)
[20:33] <zyngawow> I was totally disapointed by ubuntu. Probably my fault, but the OS was not smooth, and a lot of things failed. Any suggestions?
[20:33] <Martijn-NL> Thanks you very much. I will give it a try. It is very frustrating that my good old CDś do not work anymore
[20:33] <Tex_Nick> pangur : np
[20:33] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, ok. it doesnt seem to matter what credentials i write. first i had them in a separate file. now i'm trying to write the credential directly in fstab just to see if it works.
[20:34] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, i'm sure about the credentials though and there is nothing, no error, but nothing in the folder neither.
[20:34] <yugnip> zyngawow, stick with it.
[20:34] <Jordan_U> zyngawow: Without more specifics on what problems you had I can only recommend that you might have a better experience with certified hardware / hardware that came with Ubuntu pre-installed.
[20:35] <yugnip> zyngawow, make sure and update the machine
[20:35] <Jisawesome2> I have a problem with my wireless card, it can find the network ok, and it supposedly connects. however, it does not actually connect, and can not access the internet. When I do try to access the internet, it disconnects, and regardless of whether I try to or not, it disconnects after about 60 seconds anyway.
[20:35] <zyngawow> I guess it is hardware issue... My specs are: proc: i3 530 gpu: Sapphire Radeon hd7770 RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws CL7 8gb mobo: Shitty HP
[20:36] <yugnip> zyngawow, have you updated? and try to be more specific about the trouble
[20:37] <llutz> blackline: are you sure "credentials" is a valid mount-option for nfs?
[20:37] <zyngawow> Well.. for a start, when I installed Ubuntu, WiFi didnt work. Now it works sometimes.. Also, it says something like I dont have a hardware rendering taking place..
[20:37] <zyngawow> I guess that has to do with the low smoothness
[20:38] <blackline> llutz dont know so i changed to: username and password
[20:38] <llutz> blackline: since when does nfs use username/password?
[20:39] <llutz> blackline: those are cifs options
[20:39] <user_> d
[20:39] <Jordan_U> zyngawow: Indeed. Ubuntu 12.10 uses compiz and Unity3D even when there is no GPU accelleration, which means that all of the effects and compositing are done on the CPU, which will be very slow (and will take up CPU that could be used for other things).
[20:39] <Noskcaj> what changes do i have to make to run ubuntu 12.10 run well on an ssd (ocz vector 240gb), i have a 1tb hard drive as well
[20:39] <blackline> llutz - ok. as you see i'm a bit confused ;)
[20:39] <zyngawow> Jordan_U: Oh, I also get a message seying compiz has crashed every while
[20:40] <Jordan_U> Noskcaj: None really. Depending on the drive it might help to run fstrim every once in a while.
[20:40] <zyngawow> And on additional drivers, the ATI driver is there
[20:41] <zyngawow> So.. why is Ubuntu using CPU for rendering?
[20:41] <jhutchins_wk> Noskcaj: You might want to do logging and temp files on the HD to reduce traffic on the ssd.
[20:41] <Noskcaj> jhutchins_wk, ok, i was about to ask about that
[20:41] <adamk> zyngawow: Being listed there isn't enough.  Are the additional drivers 'activated'?
[20:42] <zyngawow> adamk, how would I know? I remember it had a green icon near it
[20:42] <zyngawow> I was using the x.org ones
[20:42] <blackline> llutz, you have any idea how to proceed? maybe i should start from scratch. i'm trying to mount a shared folder from my popcorn hour (media center) which have support for both SAMBA and NFS. I've already tried SAMBA with help from jhutchins_wk but we didn
[20:42] <blackline> didnt solve it that way.-
[20:42] <adamk> zyngawow: The open source drivers have limited acceleration for HD7xxx GPUs.  The proprietary drivers, available via the additional driver dialog, have 2D and 3D acceleration.
[20:43] <JoAnneThrax> Is there a different channel to ask specifically about using multiple monitors in ubuntu?  I'm trying to get my laptop to use one external monitor via HDMI and another via sVGA, but when I have the HDMI plugged in, the sVGA monitor doesn't work.  In amdcccle it's just greyed out...
[20:43] <zyngawow> adamk, so ATI drivers arent good?
[20:44] <llutz> blackline: doest "showmount -e <IP_ADDRESS>"  (<IP_ADDRESS> = ip of your mediacenter) show any shares?
[20:44] <jhutchins_wk> zyngawow: Some are, some aren't.
[20:44] <jhutchins_wk> zyngawow: Just like in Windows.
[20:44] <adamk> zyngawow: Again, the open source drivers have limited acceleration.  The proprietary drivers should work well.
[20:45] <zyngawow> I know they arent good on windows, but at least they accelerate
[20:45] <zyngawow> I'll try with the propietary
[20:45] <phillustine> ?
[20:45] <blackline> llutz it shows: "/opt/sybhttpd/localhost.drives/SATA_DISK <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS>"
[20:46] <jrtappers> Martijn-NL, try that link
[20:46] <jrtappers> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/21876/rescue-old-damaged-cds-with-an-ubuntu-live-cd/
[20:46] <jrtappers> zyngawow, what failed?
[20:46] <jrtappers> zyngawow, what problems are you having?
[20:46] <jrtappers> So what is not working?
[20:46] <jrtappers> Name the problems, so we can help
[20:46] <FloodBot1> jrtappers: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:46] <llutz> blackline: does this work? "sudo mount -t nfs <IP_ADDRESS>:/opt/sybhttpd/localhost.drives/SATA_DISK /mnt"
[20:46] <zyngawow> I already did lol
[20:46] <jrtappers> zyngawow, try additional drivers
[20:46] <jrtappers> zyngawow,  if you search on the dash for "Additional Drivers" it should appear
[20:46] <jrtappers> If you install it you usually get better performance
[20:47] <jhutchins_wk> llutz: Why the wierd mountpoint?
[20:47] <jrtappers> I just got a flood warning for no reason
[20:48] <llutz> jhutchins_wk: whats wierd with /mnt?
[20:48] <blackline> llutz, hmm. i sent that text line and it just shows a blinking box instead of the place i usually write stuff in terminal :p
[20:48] <jhutchins_wk> llutz: Oh, that's the share.
[20:48] <bazhang> jrtappers, not no reason
[20:48] <jhutchins_wk> llutz: n'mind, finding the backscroll.
[20:48] <llutz> jhutchins_wk: np
[20:49] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: This is really a PB support issue, we're pretty much guessing what the problem is.  Do they have phone support?  Or on-line chat?
[20:49] <jrtappers> zyngawow, whats not working now?
[20:49] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, PB? Do you mean Popcorn Hour?
[20:50] <zyngawow> jrtappers, idk, I'm on windows now
[20:50] <superdmp> does this output from aptitude update look like it's indicating a problem:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1492896/"
[20:50] <jrtappers> zyngawow, ok
[20:52] <ares_> Hello, how to change monitor heartz on ubuntu 12.04LTS
[20:52] <llutz> blackline: after issuing the command, did you get back the prompt?
[20:52] <WeThePeople> would( ubuntu, windows, ubuntu ) be ok for a hdd?
[20:53] <magik_> WeThePeople, I think you can only have 4 main partitions but I'm a newb lol
[20:53] <WeThePeople> magik_, thats true primary parts.
[20:53] <blackline> llutz now it timed out, took a long while
[20:53] <llutz> blackline: you have to replace <IP_ADDRESS> by the mediacenter-IP
[20:54] <jhutchins_wk> blackline: Yeah, Popcorn Hour, PH.
[20:54] <ares_> ubuntu 12 kills me
[20:54] <jrtappers> ares_, why?
[20:55] <jhutchins_wk> llutz: I wouldn't expect NFS to use the real path as a sharename.
[20:55] <jrtappers> if its the window manager then install another window manager
[20:55] <ares_> <jrtappers> I can't change heartz on it like on 11 or 10
[20:55] <ares_> It was able to change it at display options
[20:55] <blackline> jhutchins_wk, i suppose they have some kind of support. but i'm kind of unsure about how i should explain the issue since I can reach the samba share from within my desktop enviroment.
[20:56] <llutz> jhutchins_wk: nfs has no "sharenames" like cifs, the share is listed by "showmount"
[20:56] <blackline> llutz, of course, i wrote the the media center ip the first try ;)
[20:56] <phillustine> q
[20:56] <phillustine> quit
[20:56] <blackline> haha
[20:56] <blackline> no i didnt
[20:56] <blackline> sorry for that guys
[20:56] <llutz> blackline: just to make sure...
[20:56] <blackline> good for me
[20:57] <blackline> llutz, access denies by server by mounting...
[20:58] <blackline> llutz: "mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting <IP_ADDRESS>"
[20:58] <ares_> if you want to change refresh rate use sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:58] <ddilinger> if you wanted to file a bug that some package does not include a tool from the source ditsribution (say, there is an optional tool in the package called debugclient), is ubuntu-bug appropriate?
[20:59] <ares_> Linux For the win!
[21:00] <llutz> blackline: really ".... while mounting <IP_ADDRESS>"?
[21:01] <llutz> blackline: there should be <IP_ADDRESS>:/opt/blabla  <- the exported sharename
[21:03] <mcrawfor> so, how do I figure out whether compiz is using my graphics card? how do I even choose a graphics card. my xorg.conf is hilariously tiny compared to how i used to remember them
[21:03] <mcrawfor> is there some nice tool i need to know about in 12.10?
[21:03] <blackline> llutz, sorry. this is the full lenght: "marcus@Marcus:/mnt$ sudo mount -t nfs <IP_ADDRESS>:/opt/sybhttpd/localhost.drives/SATA_DISK /mnt/popcorn
[21:03] <blackline> mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting <IP_ADDRESS>:/opt/sybhttpd/localhost.drives/SATA_DISK"
[21:04] <llutz> blackline: do you have shell access to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[21:04] <CloudGuy> hi
[21:04] <CloudGuy> what is the openvz package in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[21:04] <CloudGuy> the openvz kernel i mean
[21:06] <magik_> If it weren't for the need to use Windows once in awhile for games and certain applications,  I would discard it all together.  Right now I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal and it's working really good I'm quite impressed.
[21:06] <jhutchins_wk> mcrawfor: If compiz is displaying something it's using your graphics card.  Do you have more than one that you want to choose from?  Most systems run with no xorg.conf at all these days, it autodetects.
[21:07] <lastninja> Witam
[21:07] <jhutchins_wk> magik_: I didn't use Windows at all from 2004 until late 2011 when I went to work for some companies that supply or require Windows machines.
[21:07] <blackline> llutz shell access?
[21:07] <llutz> blackline: ssh, telnet
[21:07] <blackline> llutz,  yes ive dont that before. from another computer. i'll give it a try now.
[21:07] <NuSuey> ah well.. what would be the best way to reinstall grub again? (installed xp and lost it of course)
[21:08] <lastninja> jest tu jakiś polak??
[21:08] <llutz> !pl | lastninja
[21:10] <guntbert> NuSuey: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[21:14] <blackline> llutz as long as i'm doing it right it is connection refusal
[21:15] <blackline> llutz i used putty and tried to connect to <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:15] <MangoBoy> Hello. Can one use a joystick as a mouse in linux? and is there some special package to install to make it posible? if some one know !
[21:15] <llutz> blackline: it might just not have sshd running. is it a pc running a mediacenter-software or a "blackbox mediacenter" with a limited OS?
[21:16] <blackline> llutz one of these: http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/index.php?pluginoption=catalog&mainItemId=12
[21:16] <blackline> all services are running according to the media center.
[21:17] <blackline> but i could restart them. i don't think that there is any issues on that side since i have connected through ssh with another pc (windows) before. I dont know if i mentioned but I reach the samba file share in nautilus as well. Just can't mount it (nor nfs)
[21:19] <llutz> whow, just 507 minutes to build OpenElec from git ...
[21:19] <llutz> whoops wrong channel, sorry
[21:19] <mcrawfor> jhutchins_wk: it is continuously burning 30% of cpu when no windows are even displayed
[21:20] <mcrawfor> and dragging a window side to side is slideshow-like
[21:20] <mcrawfor> so i suspect is not using hardware rendering properlyu
[21:20] <mcrawfor> perhaps i meant to say, which driver it is using, and how to select other drivers
[21:24] <blackline> llutz, i have to "throw in the towel" for today. i'll most definitely be back another day. thanks both to you and jhutchins_wk for your patience and helpfulness. People like you really make it more easy to trying to move over to Linux!
[21:24] <blackline> for today. bye!
[21:25] <llutz> blackline: last attempts "sudo mount -t nfs <IP_ADDRESS>:/SATA_DISK /mnt"
[21:26] <nearst> sup
[21:27] <mcrawfor> aha
[21:27] <blackline> llutz, mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting <IP_ADDRESS>:/SATA_DISK
[21:27] <mcrawfor> [  4592.758] (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)
[21:27] <llutz> blackline: odd, nvm, goodnight for now :)
[21:27] <blackline> llutz, but it is correct that i have a sata disk internal in the popcorn hour, which i'm trying to reach.
[21:27] <blackline> you to!
[21:28] <nearst> what is popcorn?
[21:28] <mcrawfor> seeds of the corn plant, heated until they burst. it's delicious!
[21:28] <mcrawfor> :)
[21:29] <nearst> especially while at cinema
[21:29] <pozo> Hello all, trying to install desktop 12.10, 64 bit and it hangs on Copying installation logs. Is setup complete at that point and can I safely use the system?
[21:30] <nearst> worth to try
[21:30] <pozo> Google isn't my friend there, only found that it's a known bug
[21:30] <nickalex> list
[21:31] <d_r89> http://antoniodelmaestro.blogspot.it/
[21:32] <Miebster1> how do I get a more recent version of evolution? the package manager downloads an old one
[21:33] <pozo> Ghehe plugging out the usb drive sort of crashed the system... Looks like a good start :p
[21:33] <chazword> I have a 15 drive raid6.  For various reasons, 3 of these drives are marked as 'spare.'  However, I know them to be good drives that should be set active.  I'm having a difficult time figuring out how to make mdadm realize these drives are active and not spare.   No grub yet it seems
[21:34] <genii-around> !info evolution quantal
[21:34] <nickalex> lis
[21:35] <Miebster1> I'm using 10.04 and the package manager is trying to install 2.28.3 of evolution
[21:36] <F3Speech> 2 15k 37gb raptor hdds arrived today to hold my new home server setup, its going to run mysql,sabnzb,indexer,etc. My question is should I raid 0 or 1 these drives or should i offline one as a backup for primary fail? Is the hdd likely to be the bottleneck on a pure processing machine for a 50mb line? Thanks
[21:36] <Miebster1> F3Speech: Mighty curious, why not ssds?
[21:37] <F3Speech> poverty :)
[21:37] <Todd> lol
[21:37] <Miebster1> F3Speech: How much do 2 raptors cost?
[21:37] <pozo> F3 you mean 50MBit/s right?
[21:37] <F3Speech> yes
[21:37] <pozo> Should be no issue with speed there
[21:37] <genii-around> !info evolution lucid-backports
[21:37] <F3Speech> got them for £12.50 each from reseller
[21:37] <genii-around> Hm
[21:38] <pozo> Use raid 0 if you don't need the space
[21:38] <F3Speech> pozo: you think 1 drive should be able to keepup fine without raid?
[21:38] <NuSuey> anybody know why is my PC still booting only XP (check http://paste.ubuntu.com/1493164/)
[21:38] <jackarg> ok I need help consisting of setting up ubuntu on a mac. it's an old 2006 mac mini and I'm installing ubuntu 12.04. do I have to dual boot (which requires creating a partition) or can i just totally erase the mac os x?
[21:39] <Miebster1> genii-around: do I have to download the source?
[21:39] <genii-around> Miebster1: I would probably look for a PPA with a more recent version first
[21:39] <xibalba> anyone here pretty familiar with 'less' or 'more' or any other paging app?
[21:39] <F3Speech> pozo: best case i get 6Mbs minmus processing overhead there cant me more than 4Mbs going to the disk
[21:40] <pozo> F3Speech: sure no problem at all, processor speed and download speed will be the bottleneck
[21:40] <llutz> !anyone | xibalba
[21:40] <xibalba> i know less can highlight a search, but i'm wondering if there is a way to make a 2nd highlighted string. So search for 'A' first, great found it, now i want to look for 'A' and 'B'
[21:40] <pozo> On a 7.2k disk I get 80 MB (real bytes, not bits) per second :)
[21:41] <F3Speech> pozo: ok on a related note, whould i see any general overall performance increase raid(1)ing the disks? I think I'll raid(0) for backup.
[21:41] <TvL2386> F3Speech, you're disks will do at least 50MB/s. I got 2 raptors 37GB but only 10k rpm in raid0... the setup goes over 100MB/s
[21:41] <nearst> !mdadm
[21:41] <NuSuey> still can't get my GRUB :/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/1493208/
[21:41] <TvL2386> F3Speech, it's never near any limitation for your 50mbit line
[21:41] <Miebster1> genii-around: I'm not really sure how to do that other than type things into google until it looks good
[21:41] <NuSuey> allways booting into XP
[21:42] <F3Speech> TvL2386: what about 120Mbs? expecting line upgrade this year
[21:42] <guntbert> F3Speech: are you joking? raid 0?
[21:42] <nickalex> salve
[21:42] <medo> i am love Ubuntu so much ,but i have a problem with it , it make me crazy!
[21:42] <TvL2386> F3Speech, pozo: RAID1 is mirroring... thus backup....   Your disks will do at least 50MB/s.... so never near that as well
[21:44] <medo> what can i do please?
[21:44] <F3Speech> TvL2386: yeah if i wont see any performance ill go for raid1
[21:44] <Miebster1> Can someone help me find a ppa or help me compile the latest version of evolution for 10.04?
[21:44] <CloudGuy> anyone knows how to do openvz on ubuntu ?
[21:44] <TvL2386> F3Speech, pozo check this for raid levels: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID#Standard_levels
[21:44] <F3Speech> TvL2386: yeah i know in thory they arnt even close just wanted to ask :) thanks
[21:45] <pozo> Yeah I know, sorry, just realized it just before you send it :)
[21:45] <medo> any one help me pleas
[21:45] <NuSuey> nearst: crap. now I cant even boot anywhere. .. getting a Missing operating system .. error now
[21:45] <TvL2386> F3Speech, you are welcome. When you get a 500mbit line, I would start to worry about disk performance
[21:45] <nearst> !openvz | CloudGuy
[21:45] <CloudGuy> aah
[21:45] <CloudGuy> ok
[21:45] <pozo> Meant mirroring anyhow
[21:46] <nearst> NuSuey, try to install grub-pc then update-grub
[21:46] <F3Speech> TvL2386: would u advise any differnt use for the second disk other than raid 1 like swap or mouting particular directoryes?
[21:46] <nearst> ext4 + ntfs not big fan of grub2
[21:46] <pozo> Personally I use two disks as jbod, and mirror important files to both with a backup program
[21:46] <F3Speech> TvL2386: i cant imigine ill use any swap tbh, but i know know which parts of the fs are busy
[21:47] <TvL2386> F3Speech, single disk performance that is... I'd go for a RAID5 setup of 3 disks (got myself 6*1.5TB in RAID5)... Online extendable with mdadm if you get a new disk and online filesystem resizable with resize2fs (EXT2,3,4)
[21:47] <xibalba> pozo, thats for a home desktop though right? not production
[21:47] <pozo> But that's for long term storage, not something you need fast disks for
[21:47] <xibalba> TvL2386, never do a raid 5 on 3 disks if you want any sort of usable performance
[21:47] <NuSuey> nearst: package called grub-pc? cant find that.
[21:47] <TvL2386> xibalba, we're talking about a home server...
[21:47] <NuSuey> latest grub-repair log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1493237/
[21:47] <F3Speech> xibalba: yeah its a home server
[21:47] <TvL2386> xibalba, simple storage...
[21:47] <xibalba> have you guys see FreeNAS ?
[21:47] <NuSuey> nearst: ah its installed
[21:48] <xibalba> Just use FreeNAS and call it a day
[21:48] <jhutchins_wk> Unless you need more capacity than is available on a single drive RAID just adds new points of failure.
[21:48] <xibalba> ZFS/pools for the win
[21:48] <TvL2386> xibalba, nah... that's no fun! :-)
[21:48] <xibalba> yes it is
[21:49] <NuSuey> nearst: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of /cow.
[21:49] <F3Speech> xibalba: freenas run its own code or ontop of ubuntu server?
[21:49] <xibalba> ontop of a FreeBSD server
[21:49] <jak2000> hi all
[21:49] <jak2000> can i install a mydel.deb on my ubuntu server?
[21:49] <nearst> NuSuey, aw, what is that. try rerun sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install --fix-missing
[21:49] <jak2000> mysql.deb
[21:50] <F3Speech> xibalba: thats out for me then, i really want to stay with ubuntu for the support and other services im running
[21:50] <medo> when i am clicked on Dash home computer go hanged !!
[21:50] <TvL2386> xibalba, zfs is very cool! It's on my todo list as the next filesystem for my linux server... Still need to figure out how to migrate 6*1.5TB to zfs without having to buy another 6*1.5TB -_-
[21:50] <xibalba> F3Speech, really? That's quite silly and you're limiting your scope of understanding
[21:50] <TvL2386> xibalba, I mean that I want to migrate to freebsd in order to get the fs
[21:50] <djshotglass> i want to install wine but its 80mb and i cant use that kind of bandwidth untill 2am but dont want to stay up that late
[21:51] <djshotglass> is there a way to apt-get install it that will auto answer yes
[21:51] <NuSuey> nearst: wtf. what are you talking about? Im just using the usb .. can't boot anywhere. what would updating the system on the usb freaking help me?
[21:51] <xibalba> TvL2386, yeah that's a tall order
[21:51] <F3Speech> xibalba: when you know little i dont think its silly to limit your scope :)
[21:51] <medo> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp
[21:51] <TvL2386> djshotglass, append -y
[21:51] <xibalba> F3Speech, eh i hear you. write it down at least and take a look at it and FreeBSD later when you're more up to speed
[21:51] <IncogTop> anyone ever use Sil3132 based esata cards before?
[21:51] <Jordan_U> NuSuey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[21:51] <F3Speech> xibalba: willdo thanks for the suggestion
[21:51] <jackarg> question: if installing ubuntu on mac, should I erase os x or dual boot with it?
[21:51] <nearst> NuSuey, owh. mount -o bind /dev, sys, proc. then chroot
[21:51] <xibalba> F3Speech, two projects you'll be intersted in www.freenas.org, www.pfsense.org (both freebsd based)
[21:52] <medo> help    help help help help anyyyyyyyyyyyyy heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:52] <IncogTop> If i boot the system up with a drive connected over esata itll freeze the system
[21:53] <F3Speech> so the final group view is i should just mount 1 drive and use the other for /home or something
[21:53] <xibalba> medo, what's your queef?
[21:53] <IncogTop> remove boots up....plug the drive back in or power it back on and it will work just fine until the drive "sleeps"
[21:53] <medo> when i am clicked on Dash home computer go hanged !!
[21:53] <TvL2386> F3Speech, you have 2*37GB right... Why should /home be on a different disk?
[21:54] <nickalex> rajaniemi.freenode.net
[21:54] <Jordan_U> medo: Theatrics won't get you more support, it will however annoy the people you're trying to get free support from, which is less than productive.
[21:54] <xibalba> Jordan_U, why not help instead of typing your rant?
[21:54] <F3Speech> TvL2386: someone said with on 2 disks raid is just extra hassle when i dont need the performance
[21:54] <jhutchins_wk> IncogTop: That suggests a bad connection.  Either something's wrong with the cable/connector or something's wrong with the drive.
[21:55] <IncogTop> jhutchins_wk, neither
[21:55] <Jordan_U> xibalba: Because I don't know how to help with xibalba's isaue, if I did I would have responded to their original question.
[21:55] <TvL2386> F3Speech, RAID is always a hassle... :) It's indeed easier to have 1 disk as your root filesystem and the other mounted in /home. But that does not divide the space
[21:55] <F3Speech> TvL2386: i have to agree why have a car that can go 300mph if you can only drive at 100mph :)
[21:55] <tromas> HI ve
[21:55] <medo> what can i do i asked this qu more and more
[21:55] <tromas> Hi everybody,
[21:55] <xibalba> medo,
[21:55] <xibalba> repeat it
[21:55] <IncogTop> TvL2386, mdadm seems nice enough
[21:55] <tromas> I have a problem with nvidia optimus. I want to disable it
[21:55] <jhutchins_wk> F3Speech: You won't get performance increases without hardware raid.
[21:55] <xibalba> i'll give you info if i can medo
[21:55] <IncogTop> atleast for raid1
[21:55] <tromas> how can I do it?
[21:56] <IncogTop> oh for performance increase?
[21:56] <medo> when i am clicked on Dash home computer go hanged !!
[21:56] <IncogTop> yea
[21:56] <xibalba> jhutchins_wk, not even read performance?
[21:56] <IncogTop> need hardware raid then
[21:56] <F3Speech> jhutchins_wk: none? wasnt aware of that
[21:56] <jhutchins_wk> xibalba: Not measurable.
[21:56] <xibalba> medo, first make sue you're fully up2date w/apt-get update/upgrade
[21:56] <IncogTop> you can get some performance with raid0
[21:56] <IncogTop> but i wouldnt suggest that
[21:56] <TvL2386> F3Speech, You can also take a look at LVM. Maybe this will give you the flexibility you would like
[21:56] <medo> i did it
[21:56] <xibalba> LVM is garbage, dont use it
[21:56] <IncogTop> raid5 is good but you need atleast 3 drives for that and at that point a real hardware raid card ( note hardware raid...not HBA or some silly intergrated mess )
[21:56] <F3Speech> yeah
[21:57] <medo> it's up to dat
[21:57] <xibalba> IncogTop, dont suggest RAID5 w/3 drives man
[21:57] <xibalba> that's Disk I/O 101
[21:57] <IncogTop> xibalba, i see no problems with raid5 with 3 disks
[21:57] <IncogTop> its the bare minimum
[21:57] <IncogTop> but it works fine
[21:57] <xibalba> its awful, especially on 1.5 TB drives...if you had to rebuild that yo'll probably end up with 2 drive failures
[21:57] <xibalba> 'fine' it does not work like
[21:58] <IncogTop> xibalba, if this was mission critcal yes id agree
[21:58] <Jordan_U> IncogTop: You can certainly get performance benefits from software RAID, as long as the bottleneck is IO rather than CPU.
[21:58] <Guest9177> Dell OptiPlex 7010 MT standard pieces and ubuntu 12.04 install. LAN is not working stable. What can we do?
[21:58] <IncogTop> then id say raid6 with a bunch of drives
[21:58] <TvL2386> IncogTop, xibalba my homeserver started with raid5 3 disks (1.5TB Samsung ecogreen 5200RPM)... Did about 200MB/s... It evolved into 6*1.5 TB... Slowly extending and resizing... It's very good!
[21:58] <IncogTop> but this isnt mission critical
[21:58] <IncogTop> and raid isnt backup
[21:58] <IncogTop> just redundancy for that little extra protection
[21:59] <IncogTop> you should always have a backup of a backup
[21:59] <jackarg> can someone answer me?
[21:59] <xibalba> IncogTop, ha dont i know it. we have our backup backing up to backup #2
[21:59] <xibalba> using FreeNAS though
[21:59] <jhutchins_wk> RAID really just provides more modes and points of failure.  Unless you need a bigger partition than the largest physical drive it's not worth it.
[21:59] <bs123> does FreeNas use samba?
[21:59] <xibalba> bs123, yes
[21:59] <bs123> thought so
[21:59] <jhutchins_wk> jackarg: Sorry, don't see a question.
[21:59] <xibalba> and apple , NFS, rsync
[22:00] <IncogTop> as for my issue it seems to be an issue where it just times out
[22:00] <bs123> had it setup a few years ago
[22:00] <IncogTop> on "softreset"
[22:00] <F3Speech> jhut you think LVM is the best opting then just to make the space accessible or would you mount them seprate with /home etc
[22:00] <xibalba> alright i need to go before i frusterate myself
[22:00] <xibalba> F3Speech, lvm is garbage stay away
[22:00] <nearst> lol
[22:00] <Guest9177> does anyone know why a LAN connection is not stable on an Optiplex built by Dell
[22:00] <jhutchins_wk> !patience > mego
[22:00] <IncogTop> dell
[22:01] <F3Speech> lol come on guys, help a poor guy out stop disagreeing lol
[22:01] <TvL2386> you all say the correct things... But if someone just wants a simple fileserver at home where performance is not really a big issue and you just want a mountpoint that's able to provide lots of terabytes that can easily be extended.... Go for raid5 mdadm and choose a fs that is online extendible
[22:01] <IncogTop> theres your issue
[22:01] <IncogTop> mdadm is nice
[22:01] <Guest9177> is there a standard fix or system check I can do?
[22:01] <Jordan_U> jackarg: It's probably best to keep OSX to be able to do firmware updates.
[22:01] <NuSuey> nearst: so.. im booted to the usb.. so what should I do? :(
[22:02] <IncogTop> grr
[22:02] <Jordan_U> Guest9177: Ethernet?
[22:02] <Grizly> Guest9177: ethtool?
[22:02] <Guest9177> Ethernet yes
[22:02] <medo> i am sorry every one for annoying ,and thank you sallam !
[22:02] <jackarg> Jordan_U: now something else I wanna know. what are firmware updates?
[22:02] <Guest9177> what does ethtool exactly do?
[22:03] <Jordan_U> Guest9177: What type of stability problems specifically?
[22:03] <Guest9177> There is a connection failure randomly
[22:03] <TvL2386> and yeah yeah.... redundancy or backups withing the same system (or building) is not a real backup. When you get robbed or your server closet burns out (been there!), it's gone
[22:03] <Guest9177> other PCs can get access and with same cable a laptop. too
[22:04] <Jordan_U> jackarg: Firmware is code stored in your hardware.
[22:04] <Guest9177> Only Optiplex has problems
[22:04] <jhutchins_wk> jackarg: If you get rid of OSX you won't be able to do firmware updates, that's about the only thing you loose.
[22:04]  * ElysiumNet sighs at software raid
[22:04] <ElysiumNet> why the hell does it keep trying to read from the obviously broken disk
[22:04] <ElysiumNet> instead of the disk that still works
[22:04] <jackarg> jhutchins_wk: I'm still unsure of the advantage firmware updates give you
[22:05] <TvL2386> ElysiumNet, remove the broken disk and reboot? It would see a degraded array but won't have issues???? (taking a guess here, please proceed with caution!)
[22:05] <jhutchins_wk> Nice!   LET'S BREAK IT SOME MORE!"
[22:06] <IncogTop> :|
[22:06] <ElysiumNet> while making the box nearly unusable by throwing iowait pikes
[22:06] <ElysiumNet> *spikes
[22:06] <bingoringo> if I want to set the default program for opening video files, do I need to set that for each filetype individually?
[22:06] <nearst> fsck?
[22:06] <TvL2386> ElysiumNet, well, since it's software, I would guess it may have issues with hardware failures. The disk is not shielded from the OS as when it would be in a hardware raid
[22:06] <ElysiumNet> I thought it should do, "Hey, this sector is unreadable. Better use the other harddrive instead"
[22:07] <jhutchins_wk> Let's see, in November we lost both the drive that had the array configuration on it and the backup battery on the controller.  In December we lost a drive and the array went RO.  Reseated the drive and it came right back, then failed again the next day.
[22:07] <ElysiumNet> TvL2386: disk 2 so far hasn't even been touched for a single read. it's only been written to
[22:08] <TvL2386> ElysiumNet, raid doesn't give you that kind of integrity... It just provides you with the data in case of a complete disk failure
[22:08] <ares_> Is possible to always keep on desktop selected display setting (resulution and refresh rate) Now after reloging or restart my display settings randomizes
[22:08] <TvL2386> ElysiumNet, if one disks fails slowly... that will cause lots of issues
[22:08] <jackarg> Jordan_U: what advantage do firmware updates give you?
[22:08] <ElysiumNet> TvL2386: ...it would be a rather basic thing to implement for a software raid?
[22:08] <ElysiumNet> "Hey, this sector is hard to read and screws up the box. let's not"
[22:09] <TvL2386> ElysiumNet, but unfortunately it seems it doesn't work that way :-)
[22:09] <ElysiumNet> shouldn't I be able to just remove it with mdadm while the machine keeps running?
[22:09] <Guest9177> how can I find out whether the connection fails due to hardware or software?
[22:09] <ElysiumNet> TvL2386: I so wish it did
[22:10] <jhutchins_wk> Guest9177: Try a different port on the switch.  What chipset is the system using?
[22:10] <TvL2386> ElysiumNet, I'm hesitant to advise you anything, because I don't wanna be held accountable for screwing up your data, but I would turn it off, disconnect the broken disk. That way it can't cause issues for sure
[22:11] <jhutchins_wk> wpa
[22:11] <jak2000> http://pastebin.com/1ctpN7qj   i unpack:  sudo dpkg -i mysql-5.5.29-debian6.0-x86_64.deb    now? need run somwthing else?
[22:12] <TvL2386> ElysiumNet, if you want self healing, use a FS like zfs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#Data_Integrity
[22:12] <TvL2386> ElysiumNet, good luck! I have to leave now
[22:12] <Grizly> Guest9177: ethtool lets you change the ethernet settings, dump the ethernet configs etc, from the device itself, see where and why, don't forget to grep dmesg
[22:13] <Timvde> Did Avant Window Navigator get removed from the default repositories?
[22:13] <jhutchins_wk> jak2000: What are you trying to do?
[22:14] <Guest9177> Grizly: I will try this. Thanks.
[22:15] <pozo> Useless stuff, I used a different usb stick and still hanging on 'copying installation logs'... I did see' configuring GRUB' pop up so maybe it will work
[22:15] <nocturius> Hi, I'm trying to set up a LUKS root partition for multi-boot. But the installer (12.10) won't let me select the physical LUKS partition for the boot loader. Will it boot if I select /dev/mapper/..._crypt ? (I can't install it to the MBR, btw.)
[22:15] <jak2000> jhutchins_wk i download: mysql-5.5.29-debian6.0-x86_64.deb  from mysql.com i want install mysqlerver ..
[22:16] <zibords> hi
[22:16] <dkessel> jak2000, you just did
[22:16] <jak2000> jhutchins i know that i can install: apt-get install mysql-server-5.5 butnotis the actual(lastest) version of mysql...
[22:17] <nocturius> Also, what's the difference between installing the boot loader to "sda2_crypt" and "sda2_crypt Linux device-mapper (crypt)"?
[22:17] <jhutchins_wk> jak2000: Why not just aptitude install mysql-server?
[22:17] <jak2000> dkessel: sudo dpkg -i ?
[22:17] <nearst> yup.
[22:17] <jak2000> jhutchins_wk but install the lastes mysql version?
[22:17] <dkessel> jak2000, sudo dpkg -i installed it
[22:18] <rscent> hi, can anyone help me?
[22:18] <jhutchins_wk> jak2000: I believe you need the -server package, and if you use the one provided by ubuntu you know it's properly integrated with the system.
[22:18] <jhutchins_wk> jak2000: Latest version means latest bugs.
[22:18] <jak2000> mmmm jhutchins_wk ok understand then..
[22:20] <Jordan_U> nocturius: You don't want grub's boot sector in either of those places. Grub's boot sector should go in the MBR of a real (or at least firmware-visible) device.
[22:22] <F3Speech> Whats the easiet way to clone a disk to another disk from the cli including grub etc? so it will boot if you remove the first?
[22:22] <troop> hello, can we do the same font render of windows in ubuntu ? beause i feel headache after 1 hour
[22:23] <magik_> troop why would you want them nasty windows fonts in Ubuntu? lmao
[22:24] <troop> because linux font render engine hurts my eyes
[22:24] <ares_> Where I could remove unity bar from starting list? ubuntu 12. I'm really confused in ubuntu12