[18:17] <garshasp> changing to 2d helped than ks
[18:18] <kingplusplus> i am connecting to ssh using bash script because my internet disconnect often  how do i make it reconnect when i get disconnected this is my bash script http://paste.ubuntu.com/6475078/
[18:19] <aguitel> i have old pc with:VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE/K8N890CE [Chrome 9] (rev 01) ,how install default driver ?
[18:21] <garshasp> whats the appeal of this os
[18:21] <garshasp> seriously
[18:21] <garshasp> its buggy, takes forever to dl stuff
[18:21] <Mojo_Jojo> :(
[18:21] <garshasp> :P
[18:21] <garshasp> its godawful just sayin
[18:21] <Mojo_Jojo> It is what you make of it.
[18:22] <garshasp> ok example
[18:22] <Mojo_Jojo> Downloading stuff being slow is most likely you internet connection speed.
[18:22] <garshasp> i have broadband
[18:22] <garshasp> example: i dl vlc 30 min ago, it is STILL going thru the motions
[18:22] <garshasp> ridiculous
[18:23] <Mojo_Jojo> What kind of computer are you using? (specs)
[18:23] <garshasp> mojo: its older but comparable os much faster
[18:24] <Mojo_Jojo> Hmm there are a few tricks you can use to speed things up.
[18:24] <ActionPa1snip> garshasp: installing or downloading, which is taking a long time?
[18:24] <lenz> Hello there. I just tried to update, but I got: "E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/https could not be found." What can I do to fix this?
[18:24] <garshasp> i cant even tell tbh
[18:25] <garshasp> i did sudo apt-get blahblah
[18:25] <garshasp> ok it finally did it
[18:25] <Mojo_Jojo> When logging in, click the little icon next to you name, select unity 2d, that should speed things up a little, you can also research alternative desktop environments. For older computers I like to use something called LXDE
[18:25] <garshasp> Mojo_Jojo, yeah man, im in 2d
[18:25] <garshasp> i had to figure that one out, but yeah, that helps tremendously
[18:26] <alainus> how do I get a live cd with kernel 3.12 ?
[18:26] <Mojo_Jojo> ^_^ It takes a little getting used too. I came from a windows environment myself when I switched to Ubuntu. Lots of really good guides out there on the web to help ease the transition.
[18:27] <lenz> Hello there. I just tried to update, but I got: "E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/https could not be found." What can I do to fix this?
[18:27] <garshasp> Mojo_Jojo, this 12.04 build is weird, i was using jaunty jackalope many moons ago and quit after all the driver issues i had
[18:27] <garshasp> but i *had* to use ubuntu because some devs made it mandatory
[18:28] <llutz> lenz: you have a https:// url in  your sources.list(s)?
[18:28] <lenz> No I dont. llutz
[18:29] <llutz> !info apt-transport-https  | lenz something seem to require this package
[18:33] <joossee> can anyone paste me the correct output for "iw reg get" when your country is CA , canada?
[18:35] <lenz> Ok got it.
[18:35] <lenz> It was because steam added the https:// to my sources.list.save
[18:37] <gr33n7007h> joossee, http://pastebin.com/rgDXfhSY
[18:37] <hitsujiTMO> lenz: no steam does not modify sources.list and does not use https
[18:38] <joossee> ty gr33n7007h
[18:38] <lenz> hitsujiTMO, it did for me... I installed via software center
[18:38] <joossee> does anyone know where the wifi connect logs are kept? or NM logs?
[18:39] <gr33n7007h> joossee, /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[18:39] <hitsujiTMO> lenz: thats not steam doing that, that's whoever created that package. you should report that as a bug then
[18:40] <lenz> Ill do that
[18:40] <trism> hitsujiTMO: not a bug, software-center keeps packages that are purchased in private password protected ppas
[18:40] <ross`> Excuse me, i'm trying to get ETrade Market caster to work on firefox in ubuntu
[18:40] <ross`> It gives an error saying plugin missing but won't offer a suggestion
[18:40] <ross`> The page said it needs java though, so i ran apt-get install default-jre
[18:40] <ross`> restarted firefox, and it still doesn't work
[18:41] <ross`> does anyone have any idea what could b eup
[18:41] <Mojo_Jojo> Look into the iced tea plug in
[18:41] <hitsujiTMO> trism: no sofware center adding https ppas but not installing apt-transport-https is not a bug?
[18:41] <hitsujiTMO> s/no/so
[18:41] <Mojo_Jojo> Its in the software centre.
[18:41] <krichel> anybody here has tried out zswap?
[18:41] <gr33n7007h> joossee, read that wrong
[18:42] <ross`> Mojo_Jojo: i really want firefox java, so w/e makes firefox actually use the java is what i need
[18:42] <joossee> gr33n7007h, those seem to be the config files? I'm looking for error logs?
[18:44] <_KaszpiR_> [fglrx] ASIC hang happened
[18:44] <_KaszpiR_> yeah, no ssuspend for me
[18:45] <gr33n7007h> joossee, /var/log/daemon.log
[18:46] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: cat /var/log/syslog | grep NetworkManager
[18:46] <Kartagis> Onixs: are you there?
[18:47] <zykotick9> hitsujiTMO: UUOC award ;)  "grep NetworkManager /var/log/syslog"
[18:48] <trism> hitsujiTMO: ahh good point, it is in ubuntu-standard though, hmm, only recommends though
[18:49] <majid> سش
[18:50] <majid> hi
[18:51] <ActionPa1snip> ross`: there is a webupd8 ppa with an easy deb to install oracle java with
[18:51] <hitsujiTMO> trism: hmm. you're right. so it should be there by default. maybe they should have it as a depend for any package that uses it tho.
[18:53] <zykotick9> hitsujiTMO: Recommends ARE installed by default... steps need to be taken to prevent that...
[18:55] <hitsujiTMO> zykotick9: i know thats why i said he was right. but where software center installs something that requires it i would expect it to also ensure that apt-transport-https is installed and not removed by the user
[18:56] <billy_ran_away> Why does my 2 disk RAID 1 device have no identity information?
[18:56] <billy_ran_away> http://pastie.org/8508004
[18:57] <krichel> I am running 3.11.0-13-generic #20~precise2-Ubuntu. The zswap doc says that I can run a custome compessor and suggests, as an example in the doc to use zswap.compressor=deflate as a kernel option. But when I do that dmesg says "zswap: deflate compressor not available" and send me back to the default lzo compressor. Is this a bug or a feature, and where should this be reported to?
[18:58] <Kowala>  :)
[19:02] <halfdan> hi
[19:02] <reisio> hi half
[19:03] <halfdan> I need help with ufw - I have a service running at <IP_ADDRESS>:8080 and would like to setup port forwarding from my public ip and port 80 to the local ip and port 8080
[19:05] <xubuntu002> account-plugin-irc has some bugs on saucy
[19:05] <jhutchins_wk> halfdan: You are running ubuntu/ufw on your firewall/router?
[19:05] <halfdan> jhutchins_wk, it's a pi
[19:05] <halfdan> with tunneled ip
[19:06] <jhutchins_wk> halfdan: This should cover it: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/
[19:06] <ur0pl> hi
[19:06] <reisio> hi
[19:06] <jhutchins_wk> halfdan: Uses it's own firewall script, but the principles are the same.
[19:06] <ur0pl> could any of you tell me what is a good program to create a boot usb image of windows?
[19:06] <halfdan> alright, thanks
[19:07] <ur0pl> inside ubuntu, of course
[19:07] <FourFire> Hello
[19:07] <FourFire> I have a situation with my Ubuntu
[19:08] <genii> !details | FourFire
[19:08] <mizumaru> lol
[19:08] <FourFire> I have the following equipment: Laptop with an Ubuntu installed hard drive unencrypted file system, bootable USB
[19:09] <FourFire> , external usb to SATA III cable/adapter
[19:09] <OerHeks> ur0pl, usb-creater is installed standard, should work fine
[19:09] <FourFire> Old hard drive with Ubuntu, encrypted filesystem
[19:09] <FourFire> now
[19:09] <melow01> Thunderbird Question: How do I view messages that have been archived?
[19:10] <FourFire> I've switched the old hard drive for the new one (laptop)
[19:10] <FourFire> and installed the Ubuntu I'm currently using on it
[19:10] <james7689> Hey I want to play tf2 on ubuntu but I have a intel graphics hd 4000 and from what I have found they don't have a version I can use on 13.10 and when I play tf2 without it it's laggy and unplayable is there anything I can do to make it playable?
[19:10] <FourFire> I need my files on this drive
[19:10] <FourFire> how do I #1 boot of the old drive externally
[19:11] <FourFire> #2 unencrypt/move files into this drive without booting from the old one
[19:11] <PDilyard> ubuntu 13.10, i keep getting a message that says "The update information is outdated. This may be caused by a repository that is no longer available." Is there a command i can run to see if any repos are failing?
[19:11] <jimmy_bananas> Hello, I am having some difficulty configuring my pulseaudio settings. I would surely appreciate a little help or advice on this. I am running Ubuntu 13.10 amd64 on a Toshiba Satellite X205-S9800. Alsa is configured, and my soundcard is alc268. I have pretty decent sound however I would like to configure pulseaudio for 5.1 surround and to enable the built in subwoofer. I have altered the /etc/pulse/daemon.conf to reflect 6 channels etc, but I find mys
[19:11] <jimmy_bananas> elf lost when it comes to reflecting these changes in the pulseaudio manager. Thanks
[19:11] <OerHeks> FourFire, fastest way is to put the old drive back in, and do a backup
[19:11] <FourFire> I also have the minor annoyance the since installing the new drive I can't boot directly but have to boot menu and select the installed drive manually
[19:12] <nafg> I recently did an upgrade and /dev/null is getting set to mode 0600 on every boot, any ideas?
[19:12] <OerHeks> FourFire, should think about that before doing a hdd swap
[19:13] <OerHeks> nafg nice troll, keep it up !
[19:13] <FourFire> otherwise it just goes to grup rescue and says "can't find device <l0t5-0f-w3ird-num83r5-4nd-l3773r5>"
[19:13] <FourFire> grub*
[19:14] <FourFire> All ubuntu versions are 12.04
[19:14] <hitsujiTMO> nafg: what was upgraded? was it packages from a PPA or main repo?
[19:14] <FourFire> (that I have)
[19:14] <xangua> !paste | PDilyard: sudo apt-get update , paste the output
[19:14] <FourFire> I assume the letters are the ID of my old drive
[19:15] <nafg> hitsujiTMO: sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:15] <FourFire> the drive I'm switching because it was poorly formatted and had upwards of 50 bad sectors according to S.M.A.R.T.
[19:15] <compdoc> FourFire, good idea
[19:15] <hitsujiTMO> nafg: ahh. did you have any ppas prior to the release-upgrade?
[19:15] <PDilyard> xangua:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6475338/
[19:15] <FourFire> (so I couldn't resize partitions before remapping bad sectors)
[19:15] <PDilyard> xangua: i guess i see it now, thanks :)
[19:16] <FourFire> I don't want to backup the drive directly because the partitions are really ****ed up
[19:17] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: image the drive an work the backup from that
[19:17] <fishscene> Does anyone know where to find the transmission config file? Everything I find online TALKS about editing the config file, and all the settings therin, but no one talks about where to locate the config file.
[19:18] <hitsujiTMO> fishcooker: look in  /etc/transmission* maybe
[19:18] <glitsj16> fishscene: ~/.config/transmission/settings.json
[19:18] <chro> what is the transmission file for ?
[19:19] <fishscene> glitsj16: Thanks!   chro: So I can modify the username/password to log in to the webclient. It seems it has locked me out…
[19:19] <chro> oh transmission the bit torrent client
[19:19] <fishscene> lol yes. Sorry for not being specific :P
[19:20] <hitsujiTMO> fishscene: no /etc/transmission-daemon/settings.json for the webinterface
[19:20] <fishscene> I'll check out both. Also, where did you guys find this information? the Transmission wiki was 100% useless
[19:21] <hitsujiTMO> fishscene: tou must stop the transmission-daemon service before making any edits
[19:21] <hitsujiTMO> you*
[19:21] <nafg> hitsujiTMO: not sure, maybe I have a 3rd party postgres (csg) for historical reasons
[19:21] <nafg> hitsujiTMO: It's a rackspace cloud server
[19:21] <glitsj16> fishscene: just by browsing around your filesystem, nothing secretive
[19:21] <FourFire> well I'm copying the files from the unencrypted and messed up old windows partitions in the mean time
[19:22] <fishscene> glitsj16: That can take a while as I'm SSH'd into Ubuntu Server. >.>
[19:22] <FourFire> which means I can feel free to format those partitions and maybe make the next bit easier
[19:22] <fishscene> Either that, or my unfamiliarity with the filesystem is to blame here.
[19:22] <FourFire> hitsujiTMO: I have done some commands which I was told to do earlier
[19:22] <hitsujiTMO> fishscene: https://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/ConfigFiles
[19:23] <FourFire> this resulted in some text file with all my installed packages (on the old drive) to be created (on the old drive and thus encrypted from here)
[19:23] <FourFire> is that what you mean hitsujiTMO
[19:24] <FourFire> is there any way I can boot from my old drive, via USB?
[19:25] <FourFire> we've got 24 minutes before my 38 GB of files is transferred (at 22MB/s)
[19:26] <hitsujiTMO> nafg: nah i doubt such a ppa would cause the issue. what may have happened is that something may have created a file there before /dev filesystem was mounted in which case you could try deleteing the file and rebooting
[19:26] <Atero> hi I want to know how to format a hard drive or sd card so all data is permanently lost? I hard I could use dd what is the exact command?
[19:27] <Atero> I heard I could use dd command but I don't remember the exact line
[19:28] <zodiak> hey guys+gals, so, strange question, is there anyway to do a 'dry-run' with dhcp ?! as in, see what a dhcp server would offer without changing the ip?
[19:28] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: what i mean that since there are so many physical errors then any access to the drive could cause more errors ( from a failing hdd head ) so the best thing to do is image the drive ( dd the file hdd to a file ) and then use that image in a virtual machine to perform the backup
[19:28] <PDilyard> xangua: ok so the package that fails is obviously java6, but how can i see the name of the ppa that is causing the trouble?
[19:28] <PDilyard> xangua: in other words, what is the command to remove that ppaq
[19:28] <PDilyard> ppa*
[19:30] <gr33n7007h> Atero, dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdX
[19:30] <hitsujiTMO> nafg: actually can you tell me the output of: ls -l /dev/null                          after boot
[19:30] <Atero> gr33n7007h: thanks friend
[19:31] <f00bar80> i've installed open-vm-tools on a ubuntu guest , but still i can't paste from host into guest , any idea what's wrong /
[19:31] <Atero> I will do it now is great
[19:31] <chro> f00bar80, what VM are you using
[19:32] <f00bar80> chro, vmware workstation 9.0
[19:32] <chro> have you tried to ask in #vmware
[19:34] <FourFire> but hitsujiTMO I'm using it right now! copying 38GB of files from it onto this drive
[19:34] <FourFire> it was using it as my only system drive the day before yesterday
[19:35] <FourFire> I just want to deal with this and hide it in my cupboard ASAP so it doesn't become a problem
[19:36] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: i'm just gonna warn you at this point that using such a drive in such a manner ( even as read only ) has potential to cause further damage ( not saying it is going to happen, just may happen )   you should always image a dodgy drive and work from that image instead
[19:36] <FourFire> the smart status was green, apart from a failed read selftest and ~ 58 bad blocks
[19:36] <halfdan> jhutchins_wk, does that work if the service is on <IP_ADDRESS>? masquerading seem to be mostly for machines on the same network
[19:37] <hitsujiTMO> 58 bad blacks is a lot
[19:37] <FourFire> hitsujiTMO: so how do I image the drive?
[19:37]  * FourFire hasn't done any of this before
[19:38] <Anuska> x?
[19:38] <Anuska> :)
[19:39] <FourFire> oh cool you can VM an... of Course you can :D
[19:40] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: the simplest thing to do is to dd the the drive ( dd if=/dev/sdX of=~/backup.img bs=1048576 ) but of course you have to be absolutely careful that you correctly specify the drive as the input file and not the output file. then you can mount that image in a virtual machine or dd it to a working drive
[19:41] <genii> hitsujiTMO: Probably ddrescue if it has bad blocks
[19:41] <leno> sex
[19:42] <FourFire> sdX is my old drive which I'm copying, correct?
[19:42] <genii> leno: You are not in the correct channel for that.
[19:42] <geekmasterflash> leno, No command 'sex' found, but there are 24 similar ones
[19:42] <IdleOne> !behelpful | geekmasterflash
[19:42] <Anuska> leno, make sex and learn linux
[19:42] <FourFire> what is 'bs=1048576' for? does it change if I mention that my partition is 32 GB in size?
[19:43] <geekmasterflash> Really IdleOne ?
[19:43]  * geekmasterflash sighs
[19:43] <IdleOne> geekmasterflash: yes, really.
[19:44] <ezra-s> FourFire, that's block size if im not mistaken, it means your partition is devided into chunks of that size, I'm no expert in the matter though
[19:44] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: yes its the sdX is the old drive . bs is blocksize. its just a buffer size of the amount of data it reads before writing to the destination
[19:45] <FourFire> you know I just recently noticed that my clickpad works!
[19:45] <hggdh> FourFire: blocksize. You can also state it by 'bs=10M', for example
[19:45] <FourFire> it's amazing, I no longer Need an external mouse in order to use my operating system
[19:45] <Rory> ezra-s: FourFire the bs argument to dd just specifies how much data is copied at once
[19:45] <Rory> To all intents and purposes it doesn't matter what you put
[19:46] <ezra-s> Rory, so it was about dd, sorry about my intrusion, thanks for the explanation :)
[19:46] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: and ofc, sdX should not be mounted as you're performing the image
[19:46] <xangua> PDilyard: I doubt you installed something from that repository so you can just remove it in Sotware Center>Edit>Sources
[19:46] <FourFire> the BS should for optimal performance fit within my drives cache
[19:46] <FourFire> is that correct?
[19:47] <hitsujiTMO> bs
[19:47] <PDilyard> xangua: thank you!
[19:48] <Rory> ezra-s: hitsujiTMO explained it while my incredibly slow Internet was sending my message
[19:48] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: as rory said it doesnt really matter about the size of the bs. you can omit it and it will do just fine. the only time you really need to specify it is when dealing with SSDs or you're attempting to copy a specific amount of info or from a specific location
[19:49] <hggdh> FourFire: no, not necessarily correct. Usually, if a device is known to be faster is writing with a specific blocksize, google will show in a search
[19:49] <FourFire> hitsujiTMO: thanks for telling me, I might have imaged while it was mounted
[19:49] <Rory> exactly FourFire for example to make a gigabyte of zeroes you do "dd if=/dev/zero of=zero.bin bs=1M count=1024"
[19:50] <hggdh> FourFire: this is important: *never* 'dd' with output to a mounted filesystem. Corruption is almost certain
[19:50] <reisio> to the same FS you mean?
[19:50] <hggdh> (meaning output to the /dev/<device>)
[19:51] <Rory> reisio: don't dd to /dev/sda2 while a filesystem on /dev/sda2 is mounted.
[19:55] <rottinrob_> good day everyone
[19:55] <fishscene> o/
[19:55] <gassho> hai2u
[19:56] <rottinrob_> I was hoping someone may have advice
[19:56] <geekmasterflash> rottinrob_, On?
[19:56] <jpedroza2k> I have advice, never sniff a gift fish.
[19:56] <gassho> IRC geekmasterflash
[19:56] <rottinrob_> my system is blocking me it seem with security polocies
[19:56] <geekmasterflash> gassho, Funny.
[19:56] <rottinrob_> where are those ?
[19:56] <tgm4883> !details | rottinrob_
[19:56] <geekmasterflash> rottinrob_, Can you tell us exactly the error you are getting?
[19:57] <funkt> Hi there I am trying sudo gedit and I am getting magic-cookie errors does anyone know what I could do?
[19:57] <rottinrob_> I've had problem with internet windows closing on me ..just fiight my syste
[19:58] <rottinrob_> I just got  a popup that ssid I have secrity policies blocking my actions
[19:58] <geekmasterflash> rottinrob_, Is there a language other than english you'd be more comfortable with?
[19:58] <rottinrob_> no just typing fast, I do apologize for the spelling
[19:59] <geekmasterflash> rottinrob_, So recreate the issue and give us exactly, word for word, the pop up warning
[19:59] <Guest46684> #Django
[20:00] <rottinrob_> the pop up said that my que I posted in mysql was intercepted by security polices and I was not allowed to perform that action
[20:01] <hitsujiTMO> rottinrob_: is this a corporate wifi network?
[20:01] <rottinrob_> I have been trying for 5 days to get mysql maas and apache to speak properly
[20:01] <rottinrob_> no, it is my personal server I am trying to build
[20:02] <killertaxicab> I am looking for help identifying my new partition in ubuntu. The partition was created in windows.
[20:03] <reisio> killertaxicab: lsblk -f
[20:03] <hitsujiTMO> killertaxicab: is ubuntu not recognising the filesystem?
[20:03] <killertaxicab> hitsujuTMO: Sorry, allow me to rephrase. I am looking to install ubuntu onto the new partition from a LiveUSB key.
[20:04] <hitsujiTMO> killertaxicab: delete the partition and install ubuntu to the free space
[20:04] <killertaxicab> Thanks!
[20:04] <VeganGecko> hi there, is any dev here? anyone how can explain me this sentence from the ubuntu website here: More than 55% of all Linux developers use Ubuntu,
[20:05] <VeganGecko> how = who
[20:05] <hitsujiTMO> VeganGecko: i would that call that a statistic pulled from somewhere unpleasant
[20:05] <fishscene> VeganGecko: Seems to be self-explanatory. Was there something in particular you were looking for? like actual statistics?
[20:05] <new> i want the background color in a .pdf and print it with the background color that i changed.
[20:06] <new> i want to change the background color in a .pdf and print it with the background color that i changed.
[20:06] <VeganGecko> Who count this statistic on which Way please?
[20:06] <Pici> rottinrob_: We would need the *exact* text or a screenshot of what you are seeing.
[20:07] <anonynimity> how do i call breakfast in ubuntu 13.10?
[20:08] <cer> hi everybody, nouveau is gioving me some serioous grief .... the system crashes very often .....  is it worth installing nouveau firmware?
[20:08] <new_> i want to change the background color in a .pdf and print it with the background color that i changed.
[20:08] <cer> 13.10 b4 bit
[20:08] <cer> graphic card nvidia quadro fx 1600 m
[20:08] <VeganGecko> new: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pdf+editor+ubuntu&t=kde
[20:09] <cer> this is my dmesg, only messages related to nouveau driver
[20:09] <suyash1629> hi guys, can any body help, the proprietory ati driver is not working it always gives error, can anybody tell where can i get driver for driver for AMD Radeon HD 6470M
[20:09] <VeganGecko> suyash1629: Which Version?
[20:10] <suyash1629> ubuntu 12.04.3
[20:10] <geekmasterflash> suyash1629, http://askubuntu.com/questions/221394/how-do-i-install-the-x-org-radeon-ati-driver
[20:11] <new_> VeganGecko, which one should i install?
[20:11] <suyash1629> geekmasterflash, is that for AMD Raheon HD
[20:12] <geekmasterflash> suyash1629, far as I can tell. The open source driver should work for both ATI and AMD radeon
[20:12] <Anuska> where is xorg.conf on ubuntu?
[20:12] <Anuska> is on /etc/X11/ ?
[20:12] <Anuska> is not
[20:12] <VeganGecko> new_: There is no expierence on my Side with such Tools on Linux.
[20:13] <hitsujiTMO> Anuska: there is none by default. it auto generates
[20:13] <k1l> Anuska: there is no xorg.conf needed anymore by default. but if you need one just make one
[20:13] <Anuska> i try Xorg -configure
[20:13] <suyash1629> geekmasterflash, "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati" returns "xserver-xorg-video-ati is already the newest version"
[20:13] <Anuska> and put my on /home/user
[20:13] <AnarchE> Anyone have any guesses what would cause me to lose all networking abilities while upgrade from 13.04 to 13.11?  I've even tried a livecd and I no longer get a link light.  Tried a USB dongle and no luck with that either.  Tested the cable/port and confirmed they are working.
[20:13] <Anuska> if i want to modify someting on xorg.conf and install that how?
[20:13] <geekmasterflash> suyash1629, Good, so you've already downloaded it
[20:14] <hitsujiTMO> Anuska: xorg.conf goes in the folder you specified
[20:14] <Anuska> is not on /etc/X11/
[20:14] <suyash1629> but the driver is not working properly..
[20:14] <geekmasterflash> suyash1629, Now just make sure you're using it. lspci -k and then find your card and see what it says your driver is
[20:14] <hitsujiTMO> Anuska: yes that folder /etc/X11/
[20:14] <geekmasterflash> suyash1629, Are you sure your even using that driver?
[20:14] <genii> !xorgconf | Anuska
[20:14] <suyash1629> i never downloaded that driver myself
[20:15] <VeganGecko> Linuxkartoffel: From my point of View is a good Programmer exactly the oppiside thing from a Thief. And a bad Programmer is exactly that: A Thief of Freedom. ^^
[20:15] <geekmasterflash> suyash1629, you might be using the propritary driver
[20:15] <jhutchins_wk> AnarchE: I presume you can't restore a backup to 13.04.  Look at /var/log/syslog and sudo dmesg | less and see if anything seems relevant.
[20:15] <suyash1629> i have uninstalled the proprietary one
[20:15] <Pici> !who
[20:16] <geekmasterflash> suyash1629, Okay, but are you using the open source one?
[20:16] <Anuska> ubottu, Server terminated with error (2). Closing log file.
[20:16] <geekmasterflash> suyash1629, lscpi -k
[20:16] <Anuska> genii, Server terminated with error (2). Closing log file.
[20:17] <AnarchE> jhutchins_wk: Other than "IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready, there are no errors.
[20:17] <AnarchE> jhutchins_wk: I've attempted to disable ipv6 in every way possible and that hasn't fixed it.
[20:17] <AnarchE> jhutchins_wk: Unfortunately a roll back wasn't possible.
[20:17] <suyash1629> geekmasterflash, lscpi -k returns something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6475634/
[20:18] <FourFire> " don't dd to /dev/sda2 while a filesystem on /dev/sda2 is mounted." ok now I'm confused
[20:18] <AnarchE> jhutchins_wk: The fact that a live CD doesn't work either is baffling.  I feel like it has to be an APCI issue but it hasn't been.
[20:18] <AnarchE> fourefire:  df -h will tell you what's mounted.  you can't dd a live drive.
[20:19] <AnarchE> FourFire: So you'll have to umount then dd
[20:19] <FourFire> I have the following setup: dev/sda (current, new disk) dev/sdb (old filesystem, Ubuntu partition is sdb5 I think?)
[20:20] <FourFire> does that mean I should copy sdb5 to sdb2 ?
[20:20] <FourFire> and then run That file
[20:20] <lucas11111111112> hola
[20:20] <geekmasterflash> suyash1629, Kernel modules: radeon
[20:20] <FourFire> or do I copy it onto sda?
[20:20] <geekmasterflash> suyash1629, I believe that's not the open source driver
[20:20] <FourFire> and then VM that
[20:20] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: dd if=/dev/sdb of=~/fulldrive.img           make sure /dev/sdbY is not monted
[20:21] <geekmasterflash> suyash1629, Let me verify
[20:21] <suyash1629> geekmasterflash, ok
[20:21] <FourFire> how do I inpiut this exactly in relation to "dd if=/dev/sd5 of=~/backup.img bs=10M" ?
[20:22] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: or you can dd a single partition with : dd if=/dev/sdb5 of=~/backup.sdb5.img
[20:22] <geekmasterflash> suyash1629, No I am wrong
[20:22] <geekmasterflash> suyash1629, That is the open source driver.
[20:22] <auronandace> FourFire: i'd use absolute paths when dealing with dd
[20:23] <suyash1629> geekmasterflash, so, xserver-xorg-video-ati is working?
[20:23] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: given auronandace's comment: dd if=/dev/sdb5 of=$HOME/backup.sdb5.img
[20:23] <geekmasterflash> suyash1629, put in this command and pastebin the results dmesg | egrep 'drm|radeon'
[20:25] <suyash1629> geekmasterflash, pasted the ressult: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6475680/
[20:26] <cer> hi everybody, nouveau is giving me some serioous grief on 13.10 at 64bit .... the system crashes very often ..... this is the dmesg with the errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/6465235/
[20:26] <cer> in particular, it seems to conflict with firefox
[20:26] <FourFire> "permission denied"
[20:26] <FourFire> huh
[20:26] <FourFire> well I'm getting somewhere
[20:26] <cer> I do not seem to be able to find solutions on google
[20:26] <FourFire> do I need to input a password somewhere
[20:26] <geekmasterflash> suyash1629, I don't see any obvious errors
[20:27] <FourFire> and in that case is it the old drive or the current system's password?
[20:27] <FourFire> I'll try sudo
[20:27] <geekmasterflash> suyash1629, Are you sure that your issue isn't that intel card?
[20:27] <geekmasterflash> suyash1629, which one is being used?
[20:27] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: sorry use sudo. /dev/sdb5 is only readable by root
[20:27] <FourFire> I sudoed and stuff is happening
[20:28] <FourFire> what does "sudo" stand for? I backronymed "Super User Direct order"
[20:28] <suyash1629> geekmasterflash, its a hp paviliion g6 laptop and has two cards pre-installed, i don't know which is used a default..
[20:28] <fishscene> sudo = super user do
[20:28] <Anuska> if i do: X -configure
[20:29] <suyash1629> geekmasterflash, in windows both were used as needed.
[20:29] <Anuska> give me some abord terminal
[20:29] <Anuska> and save the fine in /home/user
[20:29] <Anuska> but is incomplet
[20:29] <geekmasterflash> suyash1629, egrep -i " connected|card detect|primary dev" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:30] <guest324> do mounts made in dolphin automatically unmount after a set time if unused?  is there a timer setting in a conf file?
[20:30] <geekmasterflash> suyash1629, Linux isn't going to do that unless you've set up bumblee or something
[20:31] <suyash1629> geekmasterflash, [    28.036] (II) intel(0): Output LVDS1 connected
[20:31] <geekmasterflash> suyash1629, Your problem then isnt your raedeon
[20:31] <geekmasterflash> suyash1629, You're not even using it.
[20:32] <suyash1629> geekmasterflash, so what should i do?
[20:32] <Guest41284> just installed 12.04 along side osx 10.9 on 2010 macbook pro  now i get grey screen when trying to use osx
[20:32] <geekmasterflash> suyash1629, If you're having graphics problems, it's going to be with the card in use. In this case the intel card. Reinstall it's drivers would be the first suggestion
[20:33] <zzxc> guest324: I would imagine not. That would be a terrible set up
[20:33] <zzxc> Guest41284: You're at the EFI screen are you trying do a Ubuntu only machine?
[20:34] <suyash1629> geekmasterflash, because i didn't install this, came preinstalled when i install ubuntu. how can i reinstall it?
[20:34] <wheatthin> along side osx 10.9
[20:34] <zzxc> wheatthin: I take this is in reference to Guest41284?
[20:34] <wheatthin> yup
[20:35] <zzxc> wheatthin: Alright cool.
[20:35] <Guest41284> zzxc: no  i want dual boot
[20:35] <zzxc> Guest41284: How did you partition the new drive, and what do you get if you hold option while booting?
[20:36] <zzxc> Guest41284: Sorry new partition*
[20:36] <Guest41284> zzxc: in osx i allocated 40 gigs free space
[20:36] <cer> sorry, it keeps crashing because of malfunction in nouveau
[20:37] <cer> hi everybody, nouveau is giving me some serioous grief on 13.10 at 64bit .... the system crashes very often ..... this is the dmesg with the errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/6465235/
[20:37] <sovern> Is it possible to convert an ubuntu install to lubuntu?
[20:37] <xloson> Hi, pardon my bad English I'm french I'have tried to read opus codec with vlc and mplayer and none of them work. This is what I got with mplayer http://pastebin.com/6bg16bMS
[20:37] <geekmasterflash> suyash1629, I don't really know much about intel cards. Sorry.
[20:37] <Kartagis> sovern: yeah, install lubuntu desktop and bam!
[20:37] <suyash1629> thanks a lot geekmasterflash for ur time..
[20:37] <zzxc> Guest41284: How did you resize it? And what format is the Ubuntu install in?
[20:37] <bazhang> sovern, install lubuntu-desktop
[20:38] <sovern> bazhang: apt-get install lubuntu-desktop?
[20:38] <zzxc> sovern: Yeah removing ubuntu's cruf is a but more diffecult though.
[20:38] <zzxc> sovern bazhang: yep
[20:38] <Guest41284> zzxc: i get the option to selecy osx  huh  thanks
[20:39] <jiffe99> I just downloaded and burned ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso but my 32-bit laptop doesn't seem to want to boot it
[20:39] <zzxc> Guest41284: Alright cool. If you're going to multiple boot your mac with something beside windows you might want to check out rEFInd.
[20:39] <Guest41284> zzxc: how do a get a slicker selector setup  so it defaults to osx and not efi
[20:39] <zzxc> Guest41284: Haha see above.
[20:39] <jiffe99> opening it in windows explorer I can see all the files so looks like it burned ok
[20:40] <zzxc> One sec I need to see if it finished building yet.
[20:40] <adamVOGES> i searched thie net but didnt find satisfying results on askubunut.net  : is kubuntu and installing KDE on ubuntu the same thing ??? please tell me :P #noob
[20:41] <xangua> adamVOGES: yes
[20:41] <suyash1629> can someone tell me on how to reinstall intel graphic card?
[20:41] <Ben64> jiffe99: if it's very old it might not work, newer ubuntus need PAE
[20:41] <zzxc> Alright, so I need to do some testing so I might have a slower response time.
[20:41] <jiffe99> Ben64: its only about 5 years old
[20:41] <Beldar> jiffe99, Are you familiar with the per-session boot?
[20:41] <Ben64> jiffe99: you'd have to look up the cpu and see if it supports PAE
[20:42] <chalcedony> my husband's computer is getting an error - Software Updater
[20:42] <chalcedony> ,
[20:42] <chalcedony> Failed to download repository information,
[20:42] <chalcedony>  Check your Internet connection
[20:42] <FloodBot1> chalcedony: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:42]  * chalcedony grovels apologizing to FloodBot1
[20:42] <suyash1629> sorry, i mean graphic driver
[20:42] <chalcedony> he's connected to the web, is there something we can fix?
[20:43] <Beldar> chalcedony, this a straight to the server no proxies..etc
[20:43] <FourFire> my drive stopped whirring now
[20:43] <chalcedony> Beldar, yes his box, router, dsl
[20:43] <zzxc> Guest41284: OSX's EFI manager will hang for 30 seconds while it waits to see if there are any HFS(+) paritions. And I don't think it will even recongize ubunutu.
[20:43] <Beldar> chalcedony, no ftp...etc
[20:43] <chalcedony> Beldar, no
[20:44] <Beldar> chalcedony, You might change the server in software sources just to check.
[20:44] <Anuska> where i can get more info about Xorg configuration on ubuntu?
[20:44] <zzxc> Guest41284: When I first installed ubuntu on a mac I did it though the bootcamp set up. It seemed to play work alright for the most part with that.
[20:44] <Anuska> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[20:44] <chalcedony> Beldar, do you mind elaborating some? not sure i remember how to do that?
[20:45] <zzxc> Anuska: Yep beat me to it.
[20:45] <tgm4883> chalcedony, are you able to post your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin?
[20:45] <hitsujiTMO> chalcedony: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list on his machine?
[20:45] <jiffe99> Ben64: I'm not seeing PAE listed, there a way to tell from within ubuntu?
[20:45] <chalcedony> hitsujiTMO, TGiFallen_ ok moment :)
[20:45] <Ben64> jiffe99: you said it won't boot...
[20:46] <suyash1629> can anyone please tell me how to reinstall the intel graphic drivers?
[20:46] <Anuska> my X running witout gdm , kdm , xdm
[20:46] <Anuska> how i stop the X?
[20:46] <Ben64> suyash1629: its built into the kernel, you can't "reinstall" the intel driver
[20:46] <tgm4883> Anuska, you are looking for lightdm
[20:46] <jiffe99> Ben64: I have ubuntu 11.10 on it right now
[20:46] <Beldar> chalcedony, ubuntu softwrae center-edit-preferences-software source first tab I believe
[20:47] <jiffe99> it just doesn't boot the install cd for ubuntu 13.10
[20:47] <Guest41284> zzxc: refit vs  refind?
[20:47] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe99: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep pae
[20:47] <suyash1629> Ben64, the driver is not working properly.. so i wanted to reinstall it
[20:47] <Anuska> wow tgm4883, have other namepff
[20:47] <Ben64> !work | suyash1629
[20:47] <tgm4883> Anuska, nope
[20:48] <Beldar> chalcedony, I'm on trusty and the software center is not letting me open the software sources, so I can't give you the exact everything.
[20:48] <Anuska> tgm4883, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6475781/
[20:48] <chalcedony> Beldar, ok he's on 13.04
[20:48] <Beldar> chalcedony, same thing
[20:48] <jiffe99> pae is listed under flags when I cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep pae
[20:48] <tgm4883> Anuska, I'm not sure what you are trying to do
[20:49] <Anuska> i try X -configure
[20:49] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe99: are you installing from  cd or usb?
[20:49] <suyash1629> Ben64, i mean it sometimes give errors and also while booting i get white screen
[20:49] <Anuska> to create xorg.conf becouse is not on /etc/X11
[20:49] <Anuska> to configure videocard
[20:49] <FourFire> ok
[20:49] <tgm4883> Anuska, I was just responding to you about stopping X regarding gdm, kdm, etc. gdm was replaced by lightdm in Ubuntu awhile ago
[20:49] <FourFire> I honestly have no idea how to use VirtualBox to open this file
[20:49] <Beldar> chalcedony, basically in software sources you have a button to look at all the possible servers like main or one closer to you or the fastest ping to choose from.
[20:50] <jiffe99> hitsujiTMO: I burned it to a dvd
[20:50] <chalcedony> Beldar, ah yeah
[20:50] <Beldar> chalcedony, Cool, sounds like you remember now.
[20:50] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe99: did you verify the dvd and did you md5sum the iso?
[20:51] <FourFire> hitsujiTMO: do I need to add a virtual or physical hard disk to the VM?
[20:51] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: since you've just dd'd the lvm you should be able to mount that with loop
[20:51] <chalcedony> Beldar, sortof kindof - let me pastebin this
[20:52] <FourFire> hitsujiTMO: I have no idea how to do that, could you give me a command?
[20:52] <xangua> jiffe99: if you computer has no pae support either install xubuntu or lubuntu wich uses non-pae kernel
[20:53] <jiffe99> xangua: it does have PAE
[20:53] <gordonjcp> xangua: it didn't when I tried it
[20:53] <jiffe99> MD5 sum looks good
[20:53] <Beldar> chalcedony, just run software-properties-gtk  then ubuntu software-download from
[20:53] <guest324> are there any good free kubuntu/linux e-books available?
[20:53] <Anuska> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6475801/ lowe graphic mode???
[20:53] <gordonjcp> I have some 32-bit non-PAE kit and I needed to install the mini iso
[20:53] <Anuska> low
[20:53] <gordonjcp> guest324: ebooks about what?
[20:54] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: unfortunately i'm not familiar with dealing with encrypted partitions. what type of encrytion did you use? luks?
[20:54] <guest324> gordonjcp, about linux basics, libraries, grub, etc.
[20:54] <FourFire> hitsujiTMO: I don't know whatever is default on Ubuntu probably
[20:54] <gordonjcp> guest324: yeah, head over to tldp.org
[20:55] <gordonjcp> guest324: all kinds of stuff there, not all of which massively up-to-date but still worth a read
[20:55] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: ok, try this first: sudo apt-get install cryptsetup lvm2
[20:55] <FourFire> I can't use VirtualBox?
[20:55] <ment0s> hello
[20:55] <FourFire> (I just installed it)
[20:55] <guest324> gordonjcp, great, thanks, i think this is along the lines of what i'm seeking
[20:56] <gordonjcp> guest324: don't forget the Ubuntu wiki
[20:56] <FourFire> alright, I'll do that
[20:56] <chalcedony> http://pastebin.com/r3Nnkw3z  tgm4883 Beldar - it looks like he has some odd things
[20:56] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: not for the lvm on its own. this should hopefully be simplerish
[20:57] <tgm4883> chalcedony, hmm ok, can you pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update"?  That should show us which one is having the error
[20:57] <ment0s> I have installled autofs and configured it to automount my cifs share, however when autofs daemon is running I cannot manualy mount hard drives from file explorer ( i am getting permission denied ) could some one help to resolve this  ?
[20:58] <guest324> gordonjcp, is there book-like documentation on the wiki or is it mainly encyclopedic
[20:58] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: once thats installed: sudo modprobe dm-crypt && sudo cryptsetup luksOpen ~/backup.sdb5.img backup
[20:58] <FourFire> hitsujiTMO: done
[20:58] <Beldar> chalcedony, That is the sources.list we want to change the server it calls to for those.  just run software-properties-gtk  then ubuntu software-download from
[20:58] <Beldar> chnage then server called to
[20:59] <auronandace> !manual | guest324
[20:59] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: any errors?
[20:59] <chalcedony> blink
[20:59] <FourFire> yup
[20:59] <hitsujiTMO> what error?
[20:59] <kontinuity> hi everyone
[20:59] <FourFire> is not a valid LUKS device
[21:00] <kontinuity> I am trying to clone a ppa package so that I can use a newer version, how do I go about doing that?
[21:00] <guest324> auronandace, is there a Kubuntu Manual or no?
[21:00] <FourFire> I guess I hooed and haaed at the different encryption types before picking something random when I installed that partition
[21:00] <guest324> too redundant?
[21:00] <FourFire> I have no idea which one I picked
[21:00] <guest324> maybe a KDE manual?
[21:00] <auronandace> guest324: not that i'm aware of
[21:00] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: sudo apt-get install kpartx
[21:01] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: it prob wont allow mounting from a file
[21:01] <jiffe99> hmm, might be the drive, it doesn't seem to recorgnize blank dvds either
[21:01] <chalcedony> ouch! Beldar i get a whole LOT of errors, starting with this  - (software-properties-gtk:26069): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_style_provider_get_style_property: assertion `GTK_IS_STYLE_PROVIDER (provider)' failed
[21:01] <FourFire> ok, what now?
[21:01] <Guest63672> I am having a hard time booting from my CD-ROM, while running a single Ubuntu boot
[21:02] <Beldar> chalcedony, with running 'software-properties-gtk '?
[21:02] <Guest63672> The CD ROM just clicks, and that's all
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: once kpartx is installed run: sudo kpartx -a -v $HOME/backup.sdb5.img
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: can you pastebin the output of that
[21:02] <chalcedony> Beldar, yes
[21:02] <chalcedony> as root
[21:02] <Guest63672> How am i able to check if the CD-ROM is recognized by the Linux system?
[21:02] <Beldar> chalcedony, I have no sudo there.
[21:03] <FourFire> nothing
[21:03] <chalcedony> Beldar, ok trying without
[21:03] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: not even an error?
[21:03] <FourFire> nothing
[21:03] <FourFire> just a newline
[21:04] <chalcedony> Beldar, sorry. it's still not happy - last line: (software-properties-gtk:26088): Gtk-CRITICAL **: _gtk_css_rgba_value_get_rgba: assertion `rgba->class == &GTK_CSS_VALUE_RGBA' failed
[21:04] <chalcedony> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[21:04] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: can you pastebin the output of; ls -l /dev/loop0
[21:05] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: sorry; ls -l /dev/mapper
[21:05] <Guest63672> Can someone help me with the problem i am facing? I am trying to boot a Windows XP OS, while running a single-boot system (Ubuntu 13.04), and the CD-ROM won't boot at all or even play a music cd when i insert it. All i get is a clicking sound, nothing else. What could cause the problem?
[21:05] <wafflejockTablet> Guest63672: sounds like u may have a DVD or dual layer disc trying to be read by a CD ROM if u can't get it to boot from CD its a problem with either in the media or the device reading it
[21:05] <Beldar> chalcedony, Not sure than that command should have the software sources appear, and this was just an attempt to see if it is the server called problem, so......
[21:05] <FourFire> "crw------- 1 root root 10, 236 Nov 25 20:03 control"
[21:05] <FourFire> nothing pastebin worthy
[21:06] <chalcedony> Beldar, it seems to have some other kind of problem?
[21:06] <FourFire> loop0 is "brw-rw---- 1 root disk 7, 0 Nov 25 22:02 /dev/loop0"
[21:06] <Beldar> chalcedony, Not sure can you just run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade and pastebin all of it.
[21:07] <Guest63672> wafflejockTablet: Nope, it's a standard CD, 700 MB
[21:07] <chalcedony> Beldar, pastebin the whole of the update upgrade?
[21:07] <Beldar> chalcedony, yeah including the comands you can use that command as is.
[21:07] <wafflejockTablet> Guest63672: using a minimal CD?
[21:07] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: ok. i'm wondering if the image was the root partition and not the lvm. can you try: sudo mount -o loop $HOME/backup.sdb5.img
[21:07] <Guest63672> Minimal?
[21:07] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: ok. i'm wondering if the image was the root partition and not the lvm. can you try: sudo mount -o loop $HOME/backup.sdb5.img /mnt
[21:07] <chalcedony> is there a way towreit the command to save that to a file?
[21:08] <ubuntu> hej
[21:08] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: second one there. i forgot the mount point
[21:08] <wafflejockTablet> What I so did u burn to the disc most won't fit on a standard cd
[21:08] <Beldar> !pastebinit | chalcedony
[21:08] <wafflejockTablet> Iso*
[21:08] <Guest86223> Hay people
[21:08] <Beldar> hideee hidee hoe
[21:09] <Guest63672> The CD-ROM won't play anything, so i assume it's a hardware related thing. Drivers, etc?
[21:09] <wafflejockTablet> Ah sorry I see windows
[21:09] <chalcedony> Beldar, wow i'd forgotten about pastebinit, it quit working for me will try
[21:09] <Guest63672> Yeah, i want to boot into Win XP
[21:09] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: once thats done and there's not errors have a look in /mnt
[21:09] <wafflejockTablet> Sounds like a hardware problem really have never had an issue with a CDROM drive
[21:10] <Guest63672> It's an old HP Compaq nx9010
[21:10] <wafflejockTablet> Even if Linux was having problems during boot its just up to your bios and device
[21:10] <FourFire> "mount: can't find /home/fourfire/backup.sdb5.img in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[21:10] <FourFire> it's right there
[21:11] <FourFire> I can see it in nautilus
[21:11] <Guest63672> Is there a way to wipe everything on my hard disk?
[21:11] <FourFire> same name
[21:11] <Guest63672> using bash?
[21:11] <Guest63672> because i don't see another alternative
[21:11] <Beldar> Guest63672, What is on the HD and what is the end goal?
[21:11] <Guest63672> Ubuntu 13.04 on the HDD, and i want to install Windows XP
[21:12] <FourFire> ok I did the second thing
[21:12] <FourFire> it's newline
[21:12] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: check in /mnt
[21:12] <Beldar> Guest63672, Ubuntu is not the booting problem, and this is a windows issue go to ##windows, the XP install will wipe ubuntu.
[21:13] <FourFire> how do I check exactly?
[21:13] <FourFire> is it a folder in HOME ?
[21:13] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: not thats a folder in root
[21:13] <Guest63672> Beldar: Yeah, but since im using a single boot (Ubuntu) i should get the support till the moment where i don't have ONLY that OS installed?
[21:13] <Beldar> Guest63672, Not a ubuntu issue.
[21:13] <FourFire> mnt is folder with things inside it
[21:14] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: no* ...    FourFire thats the backup image so.
[21:14] <FourFire> it's in "root" or "behind" HOME
[21:14] <gareim> Not an Ubuntu issue, but there's not much to do from the Windows side..
[21:14] <Guest63672> Beldar: Okay...
[21:14] <Anuska> uff
[21:14] <Beldar> Guest63672, The problem is not ubuntu related is all it is booting a XP iso. ;)
[21:14] <Beldar> er cd
[21:14]  * FourFire isn't very familiar with file systems, they are currently more of a GUI guy
[21:15] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: as in in nautilus goto "Computer" thats the root directory. and then open mnt folder
[21:15] <stale_> ( . ) ( . )
[21:15] <FourFire> yeah I'm in mnt folder now
[21:15] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: whats in there?
[21:15] <FourFire> it's "higher up" than HOME, not inside it
[21:15] <FourFire> "bin" "boot" "cdrom"
[21:15] <FourFire> lots of linuxy folders
[21:15] <Guest63672> Beldar: Okay, i thought there are people here that are willing to help, and not making formal statements about what is *Ubuntu related problem* and what
[21:16] <Guest63672> is not
[21:16] <Guest63672> but nevermind
[21:16] <hitsujiTMO> FourDollars: thats your old hdd image then. so /mnt/home should contain your old /home directory
[21:16] <FourFire> mnt/home has two broken shortcuts :(
[21:16] <Beldar> Guest63672, Fair assessment if it was a ubuntu issue.
[21:17] <tgm4883> Guest63672, This is the official ubuntu support channel. Beldar is right, if it's not a Ubuntu issue, it can't really be supported here
[21:17] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: what do you mean?
[21:17] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: can you pastebin the output of: ls -l /mnt/home
[21:17] <gareim> Guest63672: I joined late. What was the problem?
[21:18] <p0wn3d> He wants to install Windows XP and he thinks that ubuntu broke his CDROM drive
[21:18] <Beldar> would not matter at boot
[21:19] <Guest63672> gareim: I am trying to boot Windows XP PRO SP3, from the CD-ROM. I am using Ubuntu 13.04. The CD-ROM won't boot, and it won't even play any kind of CD and stuff
[21:19] <FourFire> hitsujiTMO:  http://pastebin.com/5kLVq8L6
[21:19] <wafflejockTablet> Guest63672: yeah CDROM is likely broke
[21:19] <xangua> Guest63672: sounds like a question for ##windows
[21:19] <Guest63672> p0wn3d: I am actually using Linux distros for a while, and i'm not a n00b, as you're thinking.
[21:19] <gareim> Yeah, booting from CD has nothing to do with Ubuntu since Ubuntu doesn't even load at that point
[21:19] <wafflejockTablet> Really people here will help on Ubuntu issues where they can
[21:20] <wafflejockTablet> We can't fix your CDROM though
[21:20] <Beldar> Guest63672, I would just check the per-session boot option is all, they should know what that is in ##windows.
[21:20] <Guest63672> Yeah, i know, i just came here to see if someone has an idea of what the problem could be.
[21:20] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: and does /mnt/home/[user]  propperly contain you old data?
[21:21] <FourFire> just two broken links
[21:21] <FourFire> nope
[21:21] <OerHeks>  Guest63672 sounds like you have set the SATA controller to AHCI or linux, xp needs ide-mode
[21:21] <FourFire> they ask to be deleted when I click on them
[21:21] <FourFire> shortcuts*
[21:21] <Beldar> Guest63672, some of are on ##windos as well.
[21:21] <gareim> Try testing the CD by booting it in a VM. If it works there, it's not your CD. If it doesn't, it's your CD
[21:21] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: can you pastebin: ls -la /mnt/home/[user]
[21:22] <wafflejockTablet> Guest63672: best u can do is check cables and your bios settings or do a grub boot from iso but it may get hairy
[21:22] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: i wonder did you have an encrypted home folder too
[21:22] <Jordan_U> Guest63672: When you insert a CD into this system while running Ubuntu, the CD should mount automatically and be avaialble in Nautilus. If it doesn't, then check dmesg for error messages which might confirm that you have a hardware problem.
[21:22] <zzxc> ls
[21:23] <Guest63672> OerHeks: How do i change to IDE mode?
[21:23] <xangua> Jordan_U: you came late to the party
[21:23] <zzxc> wellll this ain't the right window.... sorry about that
[21:23] <January> hi all ...
[21:23] <zzxc> January: Hey how are you doing?
[21:23] <gordonjcp> zzxc: congratulations, you're the first person ever to do that :-p
[21:23] <FourFire> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/EDW8u6xV
[21:23] <gordonjcp> zzxc: at least it wasn't the root password to a prodution server <ahem?
[21:24] <January> yea - what is the root password?
[21:24] <Anuska> http://angryweb.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/linux_body_painting_kl.jpg
[21:24] <p0wn3d> password123
[21:24] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: yup encrypted home folder too. give me a sec and ill read up on it
[21:24] <FourFire> yeah my home folder was encrypted, that's the thing you get to choose on install
[21:24] <wafflejockTablet> 1234 123 is a security risk ;)
[21:24] <Guest63672> What is the abbreviation for the *cd-rom file* under /dev?
[21:24] <xangua> !root | January
[21:25] <January> I agree - thanks :-)
[21:25] <wafflejockTablet> Heh like the spoon reference
[21:25] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: ok, can you run this: sudo ecryptfs-recover-private
[21:25] <January> bbl
[21:25] <Guest63672> What is the abbreviation for the *cd-rom file* under /dev?
[21:26] <Guest63672> sr0?
[21:26] <wafflejockTablet> Guest63672: I'm showing cdrom linked to sr0
[21:27] <Guest63672> Okay, is it smart to wipe everything from the HDD?
[21:27] <Guest63672> and if it is, how do i do it using bash/
[21:27] <Guest63672> ?*
[21:28] <wafflejockTablet> Won't help if u can't boot from a bootable cd
[21:28] <FourFire> "command not found""
[21:28] <p0wn3d> We just use our company wide adobe password 123456
[21:28] <wafflejockTablet> That happens before your HDD comes into play
[21:28] <c4iff> So I configured solarized color scheme for vim and it was working fine, now since I've launched gvim; it only comes up correctly and vim launched from a terminal comes up with really strange colors. I've verified my vimrc and even made it the same as the global vimrc in /etc/vim. I'm not quite sure what settings got over written.
[21:28] <Guest63672> Yeah, you're right :/
[21:28] <wafflejockTablet> Keepassx is nice for reals though
[21:29] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: sorry: sudo apt-get install ecryptfs-utils and try again
[21:29] <Guest63672> Okay, recommend me some generic CD-ROM drivers?
[21:30] <FourFire> ok it's searching
[21:31] <xubuntu_> hello
[21:31] <wafflejockTablet> Guest63672: again drivers don't come into play since they are on the HDD if your bios won't let u choose to boot from cdrom and that doesn't work nothing else will
[21:32] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: let me know the result. if it finds or doesn't find it
[21:32] <Ilmen> Hello
[21:33] <FourFire> INFO: Found [/mnt/home/.ecryptfs/[user]/.Private]
[21:33] <wafflejockTablet> Guest63672: you'll need a new cdrom hooked up somehow
[21:34] <gassho> `Well hello :>
[21:35] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: follow the dialog to recover the folder
[21:36] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: once its done it should tell you a mountpoint: somewhere in /tmp usually
[21:37] <FourFire> Yes, ITS WORKING
[21:38]  * FourFire guffles hitsujiTMO
[21:38] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: can you paste the mount point here please
[21:38] <FourFire> Thanks for your help, I really needed it!
[21:38] <Anuska> hi, i have this config on xorg : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6475953/
[21:38] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: np. at least you have a safe image to work from now
[21:39] <Anuska> what is wrong? becouse
[21:39] <FourFire> I'm happily copying my files from tmp/ecryptfs.T8LPBH2A
[21:39] <Anuska> my resolution is big
[21:39] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: ahh cool. so you are good to go?
[21:39] <entreri> hello, is there anyone here using music.xbox.com ? Could anyone with an Hotmail or Xbox account tell me if it works? Either using Archlinux, Ubuntu, Mint... I keep seeing "Sorry, can't play right now" when I try to play a song... It's supposed to be web-based streaming but when it's from Microsoft you can bet you will have problem using it under anything but Windows...
[21:41] <chull> Belial`, this weird! -1:~# pastebinit apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[21:41] <chull> Unable to read from: apt-get
[21:42] <chull> er Beldar?
[21:42] <rootwow> hi
[21:42] <Ilmen> Hi everyone; I have a liveUSB of ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso on a hard drive but the uefi bios of my new laptop don't detect the hdd
[21:42] <rootwow> Can anyone help me out_
[21:42] <FourFire> ok I have one more question
[21:42] <FourFire> I have two files here
[21:42] <hitsujiTMO> entreri: works for me in chrome. maybe its using a proprietary codec thats not available on your browser?
[21:42] <Ilmen> is network booting of ubuntu hard?
[21:42] <FourFire> one is a .txt file with a list of all my installed software
[21:43] <rootwow> i have one problem with the xubuntu installer
[21:43] <FourFire> it was generated by me inputting some command in the terminal
[21:43] <rootwow> he would not let me install it alongside windows
[21:43] <docdtv> Hello - I am a Linux user from way back (1992?), but just started to use U[buntu]. I am using ver 10LTS because ver 12LTS HIDES all the power tools and geek goodies *SIGH* - Is there an Q&D way to expose a menu of geek tools in 12LTS?
[21:43] <FourFire> is there some way for me to get the computer to read the file and install all the software?
[21:43] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: dpkg --get-selections ???
[21:43] <FourFire> yeah that's like the command I input to get the file
[21:44] <geekmasterflash> docdtv, I don't follow. What exactly is Ubuntu hiding?
[21:44] <entreri> hitsujiTMO: I'm using Chromium with the most recent flash player... can you hear the songs ?
[21:44] <chalcedony> Beldar, welcome back
[21:44] <wafflejockTablet> docdtv: define geek tools?
[21:44] <Beldar> thanks
[21:44] <wafflejockTablet> Its all still here from what I can tell
[21:44] <hitsujiTMO> entreri: chromium does not have some propritary codecs. yes i can hear the songs
[21:44] <Guest63672> #define GEEK TOOLS g33k_t00lz :)
[21:44] <chalcedony> Beldar, this weird! -1:~# pastebinit apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[21:44] <chalcedony>  Unable to read from: apt-get
[21:44] <docdtv> Thanks much geekMF - the desktop menu in 12 is AUSTERE - while 10 has pull-down menus with MANY geek tools listed
[21:44] <entreri> hitsujiTMO: you're using firefox ?
[21:45] <hitsujiTMO> entreri: no chrome
[21:45] <JoshStrobl> @entreri It's working for me under Chrome.
[21:45] <geekmasterflash> docdtv, Ah, you are talking about Gnome
[21:45] <hitsujiTMO> entreri: chromium != chrome
[21:45] <docdtv> Yes Gnome
[21:45] <Guest63672> lol
[21:45] <entreri> hitsujiTMO: Chrome on Ubuntu ?
[21:45] <docdtv> I read in Wikipedia you now use a new desktop
[21:45] <hitsujiTMO> entreri: yes, chrome on ubuntu
[21:45] <docdtv> Universe or something?
[21:45] <FourFire> Unity
[21:46] <entreri> hitsujiTMO: I'll try to find it
[21:46] <docdtv> UNITY! That's it!
[21:46] <wafflejockTablet> Unity I use kubuntu though
[21:46] <geekmasterflash> docdtv, You can get gnome on any version of Ubunutu. Give the command sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[21:46] <FourFire> lots of old geeks say it sucks
[21:46] <zzxc> rootwow: yeah shoot what you're issue?
[21:46] <hitsujiTMO> entreri: https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/
[21:46] <wafflejockTablet> KDE is nice
[21:46] <geekmasterflash> docdtv, 10.04 was before Unity
[21:46] <FourFire> However windoze noobs like me don't have a problem with it
[21:46] <docdtv> Great fix GMF - thanks so very much
[21:46] <geekmasterflash> docdtv, However, unity doesn't hide these options
[21:46] <entreri> hitsujiTMO: it's not in the repo ?
[21:46] <geekmasterflash> docdtv, Just puts them in a different place.
[21:46] <hitsujiTMO> entreri: no its not
[21:47] <docdtv> Just too hard for my lazy ass to find I guess = "hidden" LOL
[21:47] <hitsujiTMO> entreri: google provide a .deb for ubuntu/debian
[21:47] <m0neymaker09>  http://adf.ly/ZtjfG enjoy !
[21:47] <m0neymaker09> -
[21:47] <WiGust> interesting. Does chromium spy for users like chrome?)
[21:47] <m0neymaker09>  http://adf.ly/ZtjfG enjoy !
[21:47] <m0neymaker09> -
[21:47] <m0neymaker09>  http://adf.ly/ZtjfG enjoy !
[21:47] <FloodBot1> m0neymaker09: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:47] <m0neymaker09> -
[21:48] <Anuska> how i change resolution on xorg.conf?
[21:48] <entreri> hitsujiTMO sorry I /msg you accidently, thanks for your help
[21:48] <Anuska> becouse i add Modes "1280x1024"
[21:48] <docdtv> So I take it that doing "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop" will ALSO USURP initialization of Unity, right?
[21:49] <geekmasterflash> docdtv, It will install gdm, which you can select as your primary Desktop Manager. From there when the system boots you will be give the option of unity or gnome
[21:49] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: personally i'd not use that file as a source directly. it will certainly contain packages that you don't want, like old kernels
[21:49] <geekmasterflash> docdtv, If you remove unity
[21:49] <geekmasterflash> docdtv, then it will just be gnome
[21:50] <Beldar> chalcedony,  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade | pastebinit
[21:50] <FourFire> hitsujiTMO: what should I do short of manually going through the file and installing every single "good" package by hand ?
[21:50] <docdtv> Ok, I will accept the two-desktop option for now, Maybe some friends will be using Unity
[21:50] <FourFire> can I go through the file and eliminate all the "bad" packages?
[21:50] <chalcedony> Beldar, lol ok that might work better, thank you :)
[21:50] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: can you pastebin the file and i'll see how it was generated
[21:50] <docdtv> Many thanks for such friendly and expert help GMF - you're the best! :)
[21:51] <zzxc> WiGust: Chromium is all open source.
[21:52] <wafflejockTablet> Yeah u can check for yourself and build from source if its a really big deal, to you
[21:53] <FourFire> hitsujiTMO:  http://pastebin.com/wh4Fg456
[21:53] <WiGust> zzxc: yes, but i read an article 2010 what it had some "dirty code"
[21:55] <NeoID> hi, I seriously need help. I've been struggling with deleting a single file and whoever I ask has never seen something like this before. I'm root, but still can't delete this file: http://pastebin.com/qwQLyWtW
[21:55] <Ilmen> I'v found a "network installer" for ubuntu 13.10, and I'm considering using it as my bios doesn't seem to detect my usb devices; is there any important difference with a classical liveUSB installation?
[21:55] <NeoID> Ilmen, check that fastboot is disabled
[21:56] <Ilmen> I didn't found any such option in my bios
[21:56] <Ilmen> (I tried to disable secure boot, but to no avail)
[21:57] <geekmasterflash> NeoID, is the drive encrypted?
[21:57] <NeoID> geekmasterflash, no
[21:57] <geekmasterflash> NeoID, have you tried to chmod the file?
[21:57] <NeoID> it's a raid6 configuration
[21:57] <Anuska> xorg is so fuck
[21:57] <Beldar> Ilmen, Are you not seeing it in the bios or it does not boot?
[21:57] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: can you run this: dpkg --get-selections | awk '{ print $1 }' > ~/newlist.txt                                and then can you pastebin that too
[21:57] <WiGust> wafflejockTablet: no thanks, just my curiosity :) i don't use its
[21:57] <Anuska> why ubuntu deleted xorg.conf from /etc/X11
[21:57] <NeoID> geekmasterflash, yes, but I only get permission denied
[21:57] <Beldar> !language | Anuska
[21:58] <IdleOne> Anuska: Please don't swear in this channel
[21:58] <Ilmen> Beldar: I don't see it at all
[21:58] <geekmasterflash> NeoID, is your desktop Unity, Gnome, Kde....
[21:58] <NeoID> geekmasterflash, none, ubuntu server
[21:58] <geekmasterflash> NeoID, Can you see who owns the file?
[21:58] <Anuska> i add xorg.conf on /et/X11 and give me the graphic is low
[21:58] <Beldar> Ilmen, Any other usb's to test with?
[21:59] <NeoID> geekmasterflash, that's the strange part.. it's owned by "964858371", but I only have one user on the system
[21:59] <zzxc> WiGust: It would be hard to get malciuous code in. They do make things like disabling third party cookies harder, but I haven't seen what article you're talking about. Got a link?
[21:59] <Ilmen> Beldar: I also doesn't detect my old windows xp on its hdd
[21:59] <NeoID> I've run fsck twice, but the ext4 filesystem seems to be ok
[21:59] <Ilmen> Beldar: (on another external drive)
[22:00] <Beldar> Ilmen, From the bios or am OS on the HD, can you boot to an OS on the HD?
[22:00] <Beldar> an*
[22:00] <geirha> NeoID: what does lsattr say?
[22:00] <chalcedony> Beldar, i'm not seeing a pastebin address - however we did it 3 times :)
[22:01] <NeoID> geirha, -u-D--d-c----e- 13. Taishou.a - Higurashi.mp3/ads
[22:01] <geirha> NeoID: ok, u means undeletable
[22:01] <geekmasterflash> NeoID, I sometimes get this problem when a file is in use
[22:02] <Beldar> chalcedony, Not sure what to say, this is really basic stuff to get this command to a pastebin, once again we are getting slowed down on just basic fact finding, not even a solution.
[22:02] <WiGust> zzxc: yeah, but only on russian http://habrahabr.ru/post/101396/
[22:02] <Guest87777> hello. I want to install developers version of xubuntu 14.04 and I found the ISO with "trusty-desktop-i386" which should be developers version of xubuntu 14.04 but after installation it looks like ubuntu 13.04 - salamander... It should be like that, or I have to install developers version from some other ISO?
[22:02] <NeoID> geirha, possible to remove the U somehow? I've rebooted the server multiple times, so the file should not be in use
[22:02] <geirha> NeoID: chattr -u
[22:02] <Ilmen> Beldar: I'm not sure to understand the question; my internal hdd has windows 8, and I have an image of ububtu on an external hdd
[22:02] <NeoID> it's just an mp3-file.. but strange is that the file system suddently thinks it's a directory
[22:03] <Ilmen> *ubuntu
[22:03] <Beldar> Ilmen, An image being a ISO or full install?
[22:03] <jiffe99> hmm, tried dvd and sd card, won't boot the ubuntu install from either
[22:03] <NeoID> geirha, that didn't doo much... no erros, but still: -u-D--d-c----e- 13. Taishou.a - Higurashi.mp3/ads
[22:03] <Beldar> Ilmen, A HD not a usb Flash?
[22:03] <Ilmen> Beldar: Iso converted to liveUSB with Rufus
[22:03] <hitsujiTMO> chalcedony: do you get a reply when pinging ubuntu.com or paste.ubuntu.com?         ping ubuntu.com                  ping paste.ubuntu.com
[22:04] <zykotick9> jiffe99: when you created the sd card, what did you use?
[22:04] <jiffe99> zykotick9: unetbootin
[22:04] <zykotick9> jiffe99: ok.
[22:04] <chalcedony> hitsujiTMO, let me try from his box
[22:04] <Beldar> Ilmen, On a HD not a flash usb, in gneral we see this method fail often is all.
[22:04] <zzxc> WiGust: Thats cool I know a bit a Russian
[22:04] <geekmasterflash> NeoID, Are you using some kind of Active Directory/Samba?
[22:05] <NeoID> geekmasterflash, I'm using samba
[22:05] <Ilmen> well, the ubuntu is on a flash usb actually; but the computer of my brother (windows 7) does detect it
[22:05] <Ilmen> @Beldar
[22:05] <chalcedony> hitsujiTMO,  8 received, 0% packet loss, time 7004ms
[22:05] <chalcedony>  - to paste.ubuntu.com via ssh
[22:05] <geekmasterflash> NeoID, Anyone currently listening to music?
[22:05] <NeoID> geekmasterflash, nope
[22:06] <NeoID> I've killed smbd and I'm the only user on the system :/
[22:06] <geirha> NeoID: Hm. What about  chattr -uDdc  ?
[22:06] <iridethelongbus> Im working on asettting up a hp envy 4500 for my boss and i  followed this guide and my printer is not being detected by the GUI hp setup.  http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/manual/hp_setup.html
[22:06] <NeoID> geirha, no output
[22:07] <Beldar> Ilmen, Not sure on a W8 setup I always use a per-session boot myself never the bios. However my "assumption" is that the bios would show it for a per-session to work
[22:07] <hitsujiTMO> chalcedony Beldar ahh its not piping to pastebinit because its failing at apt-get update and your using the guard operator &&.
[22:08] <home> What is compiz and why is it prone to failure?
[22:08] <Ilmen> Beldar: Windows 8 itself does detect the flash usb but not the bios
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> chalcedony: try: sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[22:08] <geekmasterflash> NeoID, anything if you try lsof?
[22:08] <NeoID> geekmasterflash, nope, no output
[22:09] <zykotick9> home: compiz is the 3d/eyecandy window manager, that makes unity possible...  it's always had stability issues...
[22:09] <geekmasterflash> NeoID, how about strace rm -f (filename)?
[22:09] <Mongo44> Any fixes?
[22:10] <NeoID> geekmasterflash, http://pastebin.com/ZSe41WCx
[22:10] <Beldar> hitsujiTMO, I wondered about that mine worked but only the last what's available, however all I ever wanted was a updat upgrade to a pastebin, the user could not access the software sources to begin with this is at the least an hour into a simple fact finding effort, rather disconcerting in the end.
[22:11] <geirha> NeoID: Hm. the u flag causes it to be undeletable, but why you can't remove that flag, I'm not sure. I don't use extended attributes much. Maybe the parent directory has some attributes too?
[22:11] <Mongo44> How many OS'es can be run on one computer?
[22:11] <Beldar> hitsujiTMO, Help them please. ;)
[22:11] <NeoID> geirha, I've tried to change that flag on every parent dir, but no changes are working
[22:11] <buu> Mongo44: 88.3
[22:11] <genii> Mongo44: As many as you have space for
[22:11] <NeoID> seems like the file is just a shadow/damaged
[22:11] <zzxc__> WiGust: Hey So I read though it.
[22:12] <geirha> NeoID: What does lsattr on the parent dir say?
[22:12] <hitsujiTMO> Beldar: given that problem i'd still see the issue as being in the sources
[22:12] <geekmasterflash> NeoID, it looks like it's a symbolic link, Neo.
[22:12] <NeoID> geekmasterflash, it should be/was always a file :S
[22:12] <geekmasterflash> NeoID, but other than that that strace doesnt tell me anything I know how to read
[22:12] <Beldar> hitsujiTMO, Did you see the sources.list post?
[22:12] <NeoID> geirha, -------------e- backup/homes
[22:12] <hitsujiTMO> Beldar: no i'll look up
[22:12] <Mongo44> Is Debian better than Ubuntu?
[22:12] <geekmasterflash> NeoID, I'd recommend showing it to someone that knows more than me
[22:12] <iridethelongbus> Nobody has any idea about my printer issue? Im sure its something simple im missing as a nooB. I ran this guide: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/manual/hp_setup.html yet hp setup is not detecting a printer via USB.
[22:13] <Beldar> hitsujiTMO, They directed it at me, just one 3rd party.
[22:13] <Beldar> could be the issue
[22:13] <geirha> NeoID: and lsattr 'backup/homes/13. Taishou.a - Higurashi.mp3/' ?
[22:13] <zykotick9> Mongo44: is Red better than Blue?  <your question is OT here>
[22:13] <NeoID> geekmasterflash, I've shown the problem to a whole bunch of people who claim to know a lot about ubuntu, still no one figured it out :p
[22:13] <NeoID> but thanks for your help :)
[22:13] <intersec> Hi, somebody can help me setting up the POSTFIX
[22:14] <wafflejockTablet> intersec: where are u stuck also does your ISP allow port 25 traffic?
[22:14] <jhutchins_wk> intersec: Depends on the question.
[22:14] <geirha> If it has the immutable flag (i) set, then that would explain why you couldn't remove the u flag on the ads file within it
[22:14] <zzxc__> WiGust: My russian is a little bit rough but He refenced a Library that isn't included, and simply pointed to chorium connecting to google.ru as proof of phoning home. Which it could be, but more likely its a plugin connecting.
[22:14] <NeoID> geirha, that gives me: ---D--d-c----e- /mnt/volume/backup/homes/Maki/Music/Musikk desktop/Ny cd/13. Taishou.a - Higurashi.mp3/ads
[22:15] <intersec> the first problem is i never did it
[22:15] <hitsujiTMO> Beldar: the pastebin is expired.
[22:15] <Mongo44> Why did the ISS choose to switch to Debian?
[22:15] <hitsujiTMO> chalcedony: can you please again pastebin the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:15] <geirha> NeoID: wait, the u flag is gone now. Try removing it
[22:16] <zykotick9> Mongo44: try #ubuntu-offtopic, #ubuntu is support only
[22:16] <NeoID> geirha, rm: cannot remove `ads': Permission denied
[22:17] <geirha> NeoID: ok, back to what I asked before then,  lsattr '/mnt/volume/backup/homes/Maki/Music/Musikk desktop/Ny cd/13. Taishou.a - Higurashi.mp3/'  # the parent of ads
[22:17] <zzxc__> NeoID: Sudo !!
[22:17] <geekmasterflash> zzxc__, He's in su
[22:18] <zzxc__> NeoID: Ignore me!
[22:18] <NeoID> geirha, running that gives me: "---D--d-c----e- /mnt/volume/backup/homes/Maki/Music/Musikk desktop/Ny cd/13. Taishou.a - Higurashi.mp3/ads"
[22:18] <NeoID> but still I can't delete it
[22:18] <hitsujiTMO> chalcedony: can can you also run: sudo apt-get update &> ~/update.txt                   you'll then be able to pastebin the update.txt file in the home directory
[22:18] <zzxc__> I'm heading home. Have a good one guys.
[22:19] <numberten> anyone with experience installing 12.04 on mbps? getting a hanging black screen whenever I try and 'install ubuntu' or 'try ubuntu w/o installing'
[22:19] <jiffe99> there a way to tell if a dvd is bootable from within ubuntu?
[22:19] <zykotick9> Mongo44: try #winehq for wine specific question
[22:19] <geirha> NeoID: Really? it adds "ads" on the end, even when you did not provide it?
[22:20] <NeoID> geirha, yes it does
[22:20] <NeoID> it's a folder inside a file :p
[22:20] <geirha> NeoID: Then the filename probably has a / in its name, which is not allowed
[22:20] <Mongo44> Is there a way to turn screen brightness below the lowest setting? In darkness it seems too bright. I have tried redshift.
[22:20] <NeoID> geirha, ok? how may I cange that?
[22:20] <NeoID> *change
[22:20] <geekmasterflash> NeoID, Have you tried to rename it?
[22:20] <geirha> NeoID: It shouldn't be possible to have a / in a filename in the first place
[22:20] <buntutech> good evening resident ubuntites...
[22:21] <buntutech> i need help installing a game
[22:21] <geekmasterflash> buntutech, Which game?
[22:21] <geirha> So somehow it's been corrupted
[22:21] <buntutech> it is called SecondLife
[22:21] <NeoID> geirha, it shouldn't have one... the original file, which also is/was on another server did not have a / in the filename
[22:21] <buntutech> and i have found instructions to install it in the terminal
[22:22] <NeoID> mv filename foo.mp3 gives me permission denied
[22:22] <buntutech> however i am failing at just one small point that i don't understand?
[22:22] <geirha> NeoID: It just ended with .mp3, right? so the NUL that terminated the file's name must've gotten changed somehow, by an accidental dd or some kernel bug or whatever
[22:23] <buntutech> i will do my best now to describe the final part of my terminal installation command and hope that someone here can help me with the last step
[22:23] <buntutech> this will take me a moment to type it out please stand by...
[22:23] <jiffe99> so I've verified that I can read the contents of the ubuntu install disk from within ubuntu on my laptop, I've verified it is bootable, but my laptop won't boot it
[22:23] <NeoID> geirha, I guess something it's quite right as I can cd into the mp3 file and create folders
[22:24] <jiffe99> someone said xubuntu doesn't require PAE?
[22:24] <wafflejockTablet> buntutech: use paste.Ubuntu.com for long text
[22:24] <k1l> jiffe99: it does
[22:24] <jiffe99> k1l: well what can I use that doesn't require PAE?
[22:24] <k1l> jiffe99: lubuntu was the one which got non-pae kernels
[22:24] <wafflejockTablet> U can get 12.04 with no pae
[22:25] <jiffe99> gotxha
[22:25] <Mongo44> Does anyone know how to turn the screen brightness below the lowest given setting?
[22:25] <wafflejockTablet> I found xubuntu non pas for an older machine
[22:25] <geirha> NeoID: It could also explain why it has odd ownership and weird combinations of attributes
[22:25] <wafflejockTablet> Pae*
[22:25] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe99: did we alredy not verify that you have a pae enabled cpu?
[22:25] <geirha> NeoID: You'd need someone with indepth knowledge of ext4 to figure out to get around it
[22:26] <k1l> i dont think you want anything which needs more rescources than lubuntu on a non-pae hardware
[22:26] <jiffe99> hitsujiTMO: it shows up but I'm running out of options to try
[22:26] <NeoID> geirha, ok.. I guess it's way easier to just try to do a backup and reformat the array
[22:26] <NeoID> thanks alot for your time :)
[22:26] <jiffe99> so I'm just going to try it to see if it works
[22:26] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe99: what cpu is it?
[22:27] <jiffe99> t9400
[22:27] <wafflejockTablet> Xubuntu was fine for a live session but the HDD was basically unreadable making some crazy beeps
[22:28] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe99: that definitely has PAE! have you disabled fast boot in the bios?
[22:28] <k1l> t9400 is totally fine
[22:29] <buntutech> the instructions i found from a ubuntu member read as follows: download the games file (i did that)...unzip it....into a pre-made folder call programs in the "home" directory...(i did that also)...open terminal ( i did)...type the following into terminal:   cd #HOME/Programs/SecondLife-i686-<IP_ADDRESS>3787  ( i did that exactly)...the the instructions state;    "then just install it using this...sudo ./install.sh   ( i did that)....
[22:29] <buntutech> .BUT IT DIDNT WORK???   the dadgummed termial thing said "you cannot install to a directory it is in" "install it to aa different directory"....so the moral of this story is...i need a new final command to install it as i don not know what directoy to use or even what a directory is!
[22:29] <jiffe99> hitsujiTMO: bios in this thing is very limited, there's very few options, I don't see anything about fast boot
[22:30] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe99: ok. and you are booting from cd/dvd?
[22:30] <buntutech> so there you have it
[22:30] <jiffe99> hitsujiTMO: yeah, I tried both dvd and an sd card
[22:30] <buntutech> if anyone knows how please let me know
[22:31] <buntutech> i cannot be any more specific thats exactly what has happened
[22:31] <WiGust> zzxc__: it was a "bug" if trust discussion.)
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe99: would it be a bit mouch to ask is you can take photos of the bios menus and post them?
[22:33] <wafflejockTablet> buntutech: u likely need to do one of two things read the install.sh in a text editor to see if it explains the parameters so u can install it somewhere u have write access or do sudo ./install.sh to run it as root
[22:33] <buntutech> i id that sudo thing yes
[22:33] <buntutech> and thats when terminal said to me....choose a different directory
[22:34] <buntutech> had i know what to say at that moment i would be DONE
[22:34] <buntutech> so i said desktop
[22:34] <buntutech> no good
[22:34] <buntutech> i said home
[22:34] <buntutech> no good
[22:34] <FloodBot1> buntutech: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:34] <wafflejockTablet> cat install.sh
[22:34]  * buntutech grimaces at the flood bot
[22:35] <geirha> buntutech: Could you paste the exact line?
[22:35] <wafflejockTablet> Also check for a INSTALL or README file with the script
[22:35] <jiffe99> hitsujiTMO: I can probably list them faster, there's seriously very little here
[22:35] <jiffe99> one sec
[22:35] <buntutech> does anyone know the names ok geirha but i totally wrote every detail out
[22:35] <buntutech> and i mean every detail
[22:35] <geirha> buntutech: The exact line that asks to choose directory
[22:36] <buntutech> ok well ill have to go do it all over now this will take time BRB
[22:36] <geirha> you only need the last two steps, the cd command and the install.sh
[22:37] <Jordan_U> NeoID: geirha: It's still probably best to mkfs a new filesystem, but I'm curious if just "sed 's#13. Taishou.a - Higurashi.mp3/ads#13. Taishou.a - Higurashi.mp3Xads#g' /dev/foo" would "fix" this, assuming it really is just a file with a '/' in its name. If you can, it would be great if you could create an image of this entire filesystem with dd, or at least create a (much smaller) e2image image of the metadata and post your ...
[22:37] <Jordan_U> ... problem to linux-ext4 mailing list (*before* trying my crazy sed idea). That way smart people can help figure out exactly what went wrong, and how to avoid/automatically fix such problems in the future.
[22:37] <buntutech> Answered
[22:37] <buntutech> Options
[22:37] <buntutech> on 06-13-2011 07:05 PM
[22:37] <buntutech> Hi Andrea... it's not too difficult.  Just do the following:
[22:37] <buntutech> 1.  Download the latest Linux package (SecondLife-i686-etc) and save it into your downloads folder as usual.
[22:37] <FloodBot1> buntutech: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:37] <buntutech> 2.  Just open up the package in the package manager, right click the folder that appears inside it, and choose extract
[22:38] <iridethelongbus> Nobody has any idea about my printer issue? Im sure its something simple im missing as a nooB. I ran this guide: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/manual/hp_setup.html yet hp setup is not detecting a printer via USB.
[22:38] <buntutech> it was a that moment where i put in that command ...sudo ./install.sh   that i need a name of a directory
[22:38] <buntutech> brb
[22:38] <samgabbay> hi i need help isntalling my propretary driver on ubuntu 12.04, but i get a jockey error
[22:39] <geirha> buntutech: You already covered that part
[22:39] <geirha> buntutech: I'm asking for the exact line it prompted you about. "that i need a name of a directory"   you've given three versions of that now.
[22:41] <buntutech> gotta download it all over BRB
[22:41] <geirha> buntutech: why?!
[22:41] <_joey> what's a good ubuntu based distro with many diagnostic tools enough to fit on 4G memory stick
[22:41] <geirha> buntutech: You already downloaded and extracted it.  Just create a custom usb stick and install the tools you want.
[22:42] <buntutech> noone would help so i trashed it
[22:42] <buntutech> all i needed was the name of a ubuntu directory
[22:42] <buntutech> anyway ill go do it all over brb
[22:43] <hacyard> hello everyone, I can check the health of the hard disk via disk utility. is there a tool to check the health of external disk?
[22:43] <geirha> buntutech: Most likely it had a default directory, but asked if you wanted to install it elsewhere. If that's the case, just hitting <enter> would work
[22:43] <bekks> hacyard: The same tools.
[22:43] <wafflejockTablet> hacyard: smartctl I believe
[22:43] <geirha> buntutech: If not, I'd go for something like:  /opt/secondlife
[22:43] <buntutech> omg i was that close??
[22:43] <bekks> hacyard: The disk utility is just a frontend for hdparm, smartctl and tune2fs.
[22:44] <NimbleGrimble> can someone help me with an ubuntu variation install with lightdm guest account, disabling it in .conf file doesnt do anything
[22:44] <buntutech> how freakin frustratiing is that
[22:44] <buntutech> ok ill do all over again
[22:44] <bekks> NimbleGrimble: Which "ubuntu variation install" is it?
[22:44] <hitsujiTMO> buntutech: i just had a look at the installer. if you run the installer without sudo it will just install it to your home directory without any hastle
[22:44] <hacyard> bekks, yet smart status shows that it is not supported for the external disk
[22:44] <geirha> buntutech: That's why I asked for the exact question it asked you
[22:44] <NimbleGrimble> Im running a home automation program, "Dianemo"
[22:44] <buntutech> why cant i tbe in the ubuntu software center sheesh
[22:44] <bekks> hacyard: thats because of the intermediate usb interface.
[22:45] <hacyard> bekks, is there a way to overcome that?
[22:45] <bekks> hacyard: No.
[22:45] <bekks> hacyard: The only way would be to not use USB but eSATA eg.
[22:45] <NimbleGrimble> bekks, Im running a home automation program, "Dianemo"
[22:45] <jiffe99> hitsujiTMO: http://nsab.us/public/bios
[22:46] <bekks> NimbleGrimble: So thats some kind of distro, no "Ubuntu" then?
[22:46] <hacyard> bekks, you mean the connection of disk to the pc?
[22:46] <bekks> hacyard: Correct.
[22:46] <geirha> buntutech: Ask the ones who made the program why they didn't package it for Ubuntu. It would be much simpler then. This way of installing something on Ubuntu is really a last resort
[22:46] <hacyard> bekks, since I don't have this at the moment, I suppose I need another tool?
[22:46] <bekks> hacyard: There is none. It depends on the physical connnection you are using.
[22:46] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe99: disable quiet boot
[22:47] <NimbleGrimble> bekks, yes its a distribution and somehow has altered lightdm to the point of me being lost
[22:47] <buntutech> hmmm ok but i guess its very simple in terminal ...if i had just answered the final question
[22:47] <hacyard> bekks, I see
[22:47] <bekks> NimbleGrimble: Well, then you have to ask their support I'm afraid.
[22:47] <buntutech> usually when someone is a forum tell u how simple it is its a very bad sign
[22:48] <hacyard> bekks, thank you so much for your help!
[22:49] <buntutech> ok its downloaded again...
[22:49] <NocnaPtica18> :)
[22:49] <buntutech> time to unzip it the program folder i just made under HOME
[22:49] <jiffe99> hitsujiTMO: that did it, although reading the description I don't see why that would matter
[22:52] <garshasp> so yeah
[22:52] <garshasp> i got lubuntu
[22:52] <garshasp> way more stable
[22:52] <garshasp> old version wubi so there ya go
[22:52] <garshasp> took forever to update
[22:52] <FloodBot1> garshasp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:52] <buntutech> opening fresh terminal...
[22:53] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe99: its dependant from manufacturer to manufacturer, but thats more commonly known as "fast boot". it initialises some hardware late to speed up the boot process, usually by waiting until after the boot process has begun. so that can mean the that the usb interface or cdrom may not be available for the boot process
[22:54] <buntutech> terminal isnt reacting the same way now isnt asking me ot do stuff now?
[22:54] <buntutech> ok geirha i got it!!!
[22:55] <buntutech> ill paste the exact final thing ternminal wants ok??
[22:55] <bekks> buntutech: What do you mean by "isnt asking to do stuff"?
[22:55] <buntutech> it is
[22:55] <buntutech> im sorry im ready
[22:55] <sqrt7744> time to go to 900 and stop farting around 800
[22:55] <wafflejock> !broken > buntutech
[22:55] <buntutech> here is that thingu asked for
[22:55] <buntutech> ok
[22:55] <sqrt7744> oops
[22:55] <sqrt7744> wrong channel
[22:55] <gassho> !broken > gassho
[22:56] <buntutech> Enter the desired installation directory [/opt/secondlife-install]:
[22:56] <buntutech> ther eit is
[22:56] <buntutech> see?
[22:56] <bekks> Press enter
[22:56] <k1l> buntutech: would you mind to give your system some time and show some patience? and not press enter here every second word? thanks
[22:56] <geirha> buntutech: right, just hit the enter key and it will install to /opt/secondlife-install
[22:56] <buntutech> omg ok?
[22:56] <buntutech> ill do it now
[22:57] <buntutech> omg u may be right
[22:57] <geirha> ther part inside [ ] is what it'll use if you don't answer anything
[22:57] <buntutech> termial did react to me hitting enter
[22:57] <buntutech> id like otpaste what terminal just said ok?
[22:57] <buntutech> its not too big
[22:58] <bekks> buntutech: Use a pastebin.
[22:58] <wafflejock> !paste | buntutech
[22:58] <buntutech> Enter the desired installation directory [/opt/secondlife-install]:
[22:58] <buntutech>  - Installing to /opt/secondlife-install
[22:58] <buntutech>  - Installing menu entries in /usr/local/share/applications
[22:58] <buntutech> buntutech@buntutech-OptiPlex-745:~/Programs/SecondLife-i686-<IP_ADDRESS>3787$
[22:58] <FloodBot1> buntutech: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:58] <buntutech> is that small enough to paste?
[22:58] <bekks> ubottu: Thats not a pastebin. USe a pastebin.
[22:58] <bekks> gna.
[22:58] <buntutech> o
[22:58] <buntutech> not familiar with that one
[22:58] <bekks> buntutech: Thats not a pastebin. USe a pastebin.
[22:58] <buntutech> where is it
[22:59] <wafflejock> click the link in the message
[22:59] <bekks> buntutech: You just have been told :)
[22:59] <buntutech> maybe i already intalled the thing?
[22:59] <geirha> buntutech: it's installed.
[22:59] <wafflejock> buntutech: yes
[22:59] <k1l> buntutech: the installer finished.
[22:59] <geirha> find the icon and run
[22:59] <buntutech> omg ru serious
[22:59] <geirha> buntutech: "It's that simple!"
[22:59] <wafflejock> haha oh geez
[23:00] <buntutech> noone ever gave me an actual answer here EVER
[23:00] <buntutech> just always tell me do this do that
[23:00] <wafflejock> buntutech: you want us to do it for you?
[23:00] <buntutech> too late its done
[23:00] <buntutech> but ty
[23:00] <wafflejock> buntutech: way to show your appreciation, I'm sure everyone wants to help you now
[23:00] <buntutech> i really do appreciate it
[23:01] <buntutech> thats what i mean this is the 1st time im so happt i can hardly tell u
[23:01] <buntutech> ty geirha and all who tried
[23:01] <k1l> buntutech: it would be way less dificult if you would take a breath and listen to what the volunteers say to you.  you seem quite rushing through things instead of knowing what to do
[23:01] <buntutech> the answer i need yesterday was simply...."hit enter"
[23:01] <wafflejock> buntutech: kk realize though most everyone here is just volunteering time and effort so sometimes you won't get a direct response
[23:02] <pappo> hi!
[23:02] <buntutech> ok
[23:02] <wafflejock> buntutech: and we don't all play SecondLife :)
[23:02] <buntutech> i understand what u mean
[23:02] <geirha> this is our secondlife
[23:02] <buntutech> oic
[23:02] <k1l> buntutech: maybe they could just not track what your actuall problem is when you seperate your description over 20 lines and hitting enter that often
[23:02] <buntutech> sorry about that
[23:03] <pappo> how it is your secondlife?
[23:03] <buntutech> maybe u can come to secondlife now i can help u install it but better yet i can make your avitar the best
[23:04] <buntutech> i do it in wondows usually but since id like to ditch my dependence on windows i was dying to get it in ubuntu
[23:04] <buntutech> ty ty ty ty
[23:04] <Beldar> this is way beyond my second life I was  particles generated in a super nova at one time
[23:04] <buntutech> whoever ur geirha u knew all i had to do the whole time was hit ENTER
[23:04] <b0x> odd issue.. since upgrading to 13.10, i always get window distortion like this: http://snag.gy/ruCeY.jpg
[23:04] <b0x> comes and goes, if you shake the window around it often resolves it
[23:05] <b0x> scrolling through long lists of files becomes very problematic though
[23:05] <nafg> How can it be that pgrep -f 'autossh .*-R' returns a pid but ps -eo pid,cmd |grep ssh does not show any autossh?
[23:05] <buntutech> well ok lets see if it will let me play it
[23:05] <buntutech> brb
[23:06] <buntutech> have no idea where it is but lets see
[23:07] <Mongo44> What is the most awful command? something that could really screw the system up.
[23:08] <bekks> Mongo44: "exit",
[23:08] <buntutech> now that its installed does that mean i go to my software center or synaptics to get it up and running?
[23:08] <wheatthin> Mongo44, anything with -f :)
[23:08] <wafflejock> buntutech: should just have an icon in the Games folder assuming it installed a .desktop file for you
[23:08] <tass> does ubuntu 12 installed "Access Prompt" by default ?
[23:09] <tass> is it safe to remove it
[23:09] <wheatthin> Access prompt?
[23:09] <bekks> tass: Why do you remove it?
[23:09] <wafflejock> buntutech: alternatively in the command line you can navigate to /opt where it installed and check for an executable
[23:09] <tass> bekks , i dont remember installing this app
[23:09] <tass> do you guys have it in your system?
[23:10] <Mongo44> What do those commands do?
[23:11] <Ilmen> Can one update a LTS Ubuntu version to a non-LTS one?
[23:11] <buntutech> yeah i dont see any executables yet
[23:11] <buntutech> i see the icon but its not exe
[23:11] <bekks> Mongo44: Please dont open unsaked queries. The command "exit" logs you out, preventing you from executing commands.
[23:11] <buntutech> hmm
[23:11] <buntutech> ill prolly go in game on my other computer and find someone who has actually amde this run
[23:12] <nafg> Why would sudo pgrep ... return something but not without sudo?
[23:12] <Jordan_U> Ilmen: Yes, though you can't skip versions except from LTS to LTS, so to go from 12.04 to 13.10 you would need to go 12.04 > 12.10 > 13.04 > 13.10.
[23:12] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | Ilmen
[23:12] <bekks> nafg: Because ps -e without sudo shows user processes only.
[23:12] <buntutech> bizarre a game with no exe files
[23:12] <bekks> buntutech: There is an executable.
[23:12] <buntutech> ok im looking for it
[23:12] <Ilmen> Jordan_U, ubottu: thanks :)
[23:13] <buntutech> they all say txt and stuff
[23:13] <Jordan_U> Ilmen: You're welcome.
[23:13] <bekks> Mongo44: Do not query me.
[23:13] <tass> do you guys have it "Access Prompt" app in your system? did ubuntu installed by default?
[23:13] <nafg> bekks: but, pgrep '.*' | wc -l returns 114
[23:14] <nafg> oh wait i misunderstood
[23:14] <bekks> nafg: whatever that information gives you...
[23:14] <buntutech> im lookoing thru all the second lif efiles now
[23:14] <buntutech> havent seen access prompt
[23:14] <nafg> bekks: sorry, i thought you meant user's processes
[23:14] <bekks> buntutech: "access prompt" is not part of second life.
[23:14] <buntutech> o
[23:15] <nafg> bekks: anyway the thing is, that sudo ps -e | grep ssh returns nothing
[23:15] <nafg> So why is pgrep returning something?
[23:16] <buntutech> i just found a scripot that supposedly install the viewer
[23:16] <buntutech> ill try it
[23:16] <zykotick9> tass: try to find out what "Access Prompt" is really running.  then, "dpkg -S /path/to/file" and it should return what "package" it's from.  then there are further things that can determine, why it's installed.  if this came from outside ubuntu repo... then it could be anything/from anywhere...
[23:17] <buntutech> it looks like i gotta cut and past a huge amount of commands into terminal
[23:17] <buntutech> pages of them
[23:17] <buntutech> is that possible?
[23:17] <buntutech> it will fill may screen full
[23:17] <buntutech> cant hurt i guess
[23:17] <tass> ok thanks
[23:18] <kr4m3r> hello all, i have a DELL R610 with Perc6 SAS. When i use USB disk to install Ubuntu server, its show device (RAID1 Hardware) as /dev/sdc after install, its seems be changed to /dev/sda and cant boot. Anyone know how i solve it?
[23:19] <kr4m3r> I Try use iDrac installation with Virtual Media (CD) and some problem.
[23:19] <zykotick9> kr4m3r: you might want to try #ubuntu-server, IF you don't get an answer here...
[23:19] <kr4m3r> zykotick9: thanks!
[23:20] <hitsujiTMO> kr4m3r: in what way can it not boot? where is it breaking down? at grub?
[23:21] <buntutech> now it say im not root so it installed it to home directory
[23:21] <bekks> buntutech: It looks like you need to issue a single command: ls -lhaR /opt/second* | pastebinit
[23:21] <buntutech> whatever that means
[23:21] <buntutech> do i relaly wanna install itroot
[23:21] <bekks> buntutech: Whyever you are doing random things.
[23:21] <kr4m3r> hitsujiTMO: after grub. its say: /dev/sdc2 not exist.
[23:22] <buntutech> i am follwoing the instructions in the install folder i found
[23:22] <buntutech> to the T
[23:22] <Ilmen> Hello again
[23:22] <zykotick9> kr4m3r: i'd assume, because it's now sda2 ;)
[23:22] <bekks> buntutech: Well, then good luck.
[23:22] <hitsujiTMO> kr4m3r: is it dropping to busybox / initramfs?
[23:22] <buntutech> i think i need to put the word sudo in fornt of it though
[23:22] <buntutech> to install it as root?
[23:22] <kr4m3r> hitsujiTMO: yes
[23:22] <Mongo44> Does anyone know how to turn the screen brightness below the dimmest setting?
[23:23] <bekks> buntutech: you already installed it... you dont need to install it twice.
[23:23] <bekks> buntutech: All you need to do is just listen instead running random commands.
[23:23] <Ilmen> I tried to boot an old CD image of Ubuntu 12.04 but I get the error "no prefix found" or something like this
[23:23] <buntutech> well we installed alotta files but the viewer is not up and running  i have to launch the viewer
[23:23] <bekks> buntutech: And that will not be solved by installing it twice.
[23:23] <Ilmen> followed by a weird screen with some white pixel junk
[23:24] <buntutech> there is an install sh file i ma using with  ahuge termina lscript
[23:24] <bekks> buntutech: Do you actually listen?
[23:24] <buntutech> yes
[23:24] <hitsujiTMO> kr4m3r: can you mount /dev/sda2? mount -o rw /dev/sda2 /
[23:24] <bekks> buntutech: Please run the single command I told you.
[23:24] <buntutech> ok what do u want me to do?
[23:24] <Mongo44> What is the command to turn the screen off? How do you turn it back on?
[23:24] <kr4m3r> hitsujiTMO: yes
[23:24] <Ilmen> and yet I used the legacy mode
[23:24] <buntutech> ok i see your command ill do it
[23:25] <hitsujiTMO> kr4m3r: can you edit /etc/fstab and change any references to /dev/sdcX to /dev/sdaX
[23:25] <hitsujiTMO> kr4m3r: save that and reboot
[23:25] <kr4m3r> hitsujiTMO: ok, let me do it.
[23:25] <kr4m3r> hitsujiTMO: but fstab use UUID no?
[23:25] <hitsujiTMO> kr4m3r: it may or may not. depends on how it generated
[23:26] <bekks> kr4m3r: It may, the usage of UUID is no requirement.
[23:26] <garshasp> hi
[23:26] <Ilmen> UEFI is a piece of garbage lol
[23:26] <Mike_H_aka_mufas> hello
[23:26] <hitsujiTMO> kr4m3r: if its using UUIDs let me know and we can look elsewhere for where the issue could be
[23:27] <garshasp> well there ya go
[23:27] <kr4m3r> hitsujiTMO: ok, give me a minute
[23:27] <buntutech> installing that pastebinit
[23:27] <garshasp> is lubuntu good?
[23:27] <buntutech> what is this freakin big deal about pastebinit  sheehs
[23:28] <bekks> buntutech: It will pastebin things for you.
[23:28] <buntutech> well terminal says i got it now
[23:28] <bekks> buntutech: Then run the command I told you and give us the URL.
[23:28] <buntutech> ok
[23:29] <buntutech> hmm need ot roll the screen up somehow
[23:29] <bekks> You dont.
[23:29] <bekks> Run the command I told you.
[23:29] <buntutech> it out of view
[23:29] <buntutech> my scrceen scroller seems to b gone
[23:29] <bekks> ls -lhaR /opt/second* | pastebinit
[23:29] <buntutech> ok ty
[23:30] <buntutech> huge report that time
[23:30] <buntutech> whoah
[23:30] <bekks> buntutech: And a single URL at the end.
[23:30] <Carlinhos> hello, i messed my partition mount options and now my /home partition is not mounted at boot so i cannot login and am using a live cd. how can i fix this?
[23:31] <Carlinhos> i messed up using gnome-disks by the way
[23:31] <buntutech> single xml?
[23:31] <buntutech> no url i
[23:31] <hitsujiTMO> Carlinhos: can you pastebin the output of: lsblk
[23:32] <Carlinhos> hitsujiTMO: i am on a live cd right now, but i can boot my install if necessary
[23:32] <kr4m3r> hitsujiTMO: rebooting system
[23:33] <hitsujiTMO> Carlinhos: can you try that command from the live cd plase.
[23:34] <Carlinhos> hitsujiTMO:  http://pastie.org/8508513
[23:35] <Carlinhos> hitsujiTMO: sda1 is / ; sda2 is /home ; sda3 is swap
[23:35] <hitsujiTMO> Carlinhos: yup guessed that :)
[23:35] <jiffe99> anyone know a good c++ editor that has a docked file explorer and doesn't require me to setup projects?
[23:36] <hitsujiTMO> Carlinhos: ok: mkdir root; sudo mount /dev/sda1 root
[23:36] <Carlinhos> hitsujiTMO: there is no mountpoint for sda1 and sda2 apparently , is that the issue?
[23:36] <Carlinhos> hitsujiTMO: done
[23:36] <mike> hello
[23:37] <hitsujiTMO> can you pastebin the contents of root/etc/fstab
[23:37] <Jordan_U> jiffe99: What do you mean by "docked"?
[23:38] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe99: sublime text
[23:38] <Carlinhos> hitsujiTMO: http://pastie.org/8508516
[23:38] <nafg> Okay this was obviously a red herring but now i'm more confused
[23:38] <nafg> sudo pgrep -f ksjdfkdsdfsdfsdfdfssdfsdfsdfsdfsdf
[23:38] <nafg> prints a number, a different number each time
[23:39] <hitsujiTMO> Carlinhos: did you delete all the entries in your fstab?
[23:39] <hitsujiTMO> Carlinhos: or maybe that tool did it
[23:39] <Carlinhos> hitsujiTMO: i may have done it accidentaly with gnome-disks
[23:40] <hitsujiTMO> Carlinhos: can you pastebin the output of: sudo blkid
[23:40] <Carlinhos> hitsujiTMO: http://pastie.org/8508521
[23:41] <hitsujiTMO> Carlinhos: give me a min and i'll make you a new fstab
[23:41] <Carlinhos> hitsujiTMO: thank you very much
[23:41] <kr4m3r> hitsujiTMO: No way... black screen and no more details...
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> kr4m3r: so not being dropped it initramfs anymore?
[23:42] <Jordan_U> nafg: pgrep is supposed to not count its own process in its matching (and does so properly on my machine), maybe it's failing for some reason.
[23:44] <hitsujiTMO> kr4m3r: can you load a live iso?
[23:45] <Guest25461> hello everyone
[23:47] <hitsujiTMO> Carlinhos: ok. can you edit root/etc/fstab as route and append this to the end of it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6476444/
[23:47] <kr4m3r> hitsujiTMO: i have no CDRom driver
[23:48] <Carlinhos> hitsujiTMO: thank you so much! i will make sure to back up my fstab
[23:48] <hitsujiTMO> kr4m3r: can you create a live usb image?
[23:53] <joossee> strange problem: have ASUS AC66 router running DD-WRT in 2 and 5gh mode. Windows machine can connect no problem to either wireless network, ubuntu can connect to neither, while connecting to any other wireless network. Can someone help me out? NIC is TP-LINK WN4600 x 3
[23:53] <joossee> wn4800
[23:55] <joossee> clarify: router is in mixed mode a/b/g/n/etc
[23:56] <joossee> security mode is WPA Personal AES+TKIP
[23:58] <nishttal2> hi I just installed 13.10 and having choppy graphics performance..
[23:58] <nishttal2> how do I check if I have proper graphics drivers installed?
[23:58] <hitsujiTMO> nishttal2: what gpu?
[23:59] <nishttal2> hitsujiTMO, i think its integrated Intel GPU on ASUS motherboard
[23:59] <hitsujiTMO> nishttal2: what cpu then?
[23:59] <nishttal2> hitsujiTMO, Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz