[06:53] <asilhouette> ubottu: any help to get compose key working for special characters
[06:53] <KxTwo> command not found
[06:54] <OerHeks> !info lmsensors
[06:54] <asilhouette> lol
[06:54] <seednode> Huh...
[06:54] <seednode> !info lmsensor
[06:54] <seednode> Welp
[06:54] <KxTwo> im using 12.04
[06:54] <Gemclip> What is the current thoughts on LPIC-2 certs? Is it worth doing?
[06:54] <seednode> Now I'm lost
[06:54] <FloodBot1> seednode: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:54] <seednode> Whoops, didn't think that'd register as flooding. My bad, I'm too used to channels where newlining is fine...
[06:54] <milamber> !info lm-sensors
[06:55] <OerHeks> ah missed the -
[06:55] <KxTwo> tried that too
[06:55] <KxTwo> not found
[06:55] <milamber> !12.04
[06:55] <KxTwo> im going to install it through software center
[06:55] <milamber> !info lm-sensors precise
[06:56] <seednode> KxTwo, Try running apt-get update again.
[06:56] <KxTwo> man im rusty, gotta stop using windows
[06:56] <KxTwo> ok I dont knwo what im doing aparently
[06:57] <milamber> KxTwo: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[06:57] <KxTwo> ive installed lm-sensors through software center and still nothing
[06:57] <seednode> KxTwo: Yeah, I try to alternate between the major OSes regularly, to keep somewhat up to date.
[06:57] <KxTwo> it says its already newest version
[06:57] <Teufelchen> anyone aware of this: http://meta.askubuntu.com/q/1893/117805
[06:57] <KxTwo> but when I go to use it it says command not found
[06:57] <Teufelchen> ??
[06:57] <seednode> KxTwo, Which command are you using to run it?
[06:57] <KxTwo> ahh
[06:57] <KxTwo> I remember
[06:57] <milamber> KxTwo: i'm pretty sure the command is sensors
[06:57] <OerHeks> KxTwo, after install: Run sudo sensors-detect and choose YES to all YES/no questions. see >. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[06:57] <KxTwo> drop the lm
[06:58] <KxTwo> yes sorry, stupid mistakes
[06:58] <Teufelchen> hello??
[06:58] <Teufelchen> anybody out there who saw my question?
[06:58] <KxTwo> ok now I dont remember how to read this lol
[06:59] <seednode> Teufelchen, that's not really a question...
[06:59] <Teufelchen> the question is why cant we humans ask meta questions anymore?
[06:59] <Gemclip> mine is though lol
[06:59] <OerHeks> Teufelchen, duplicate questions are answered with the first question & answers, no need to repeat and messes up askubuntu.
[06:59] <seednode> Gemclip, I missed your question
[06:59] <Gemclip> What is the current thoughts on LPIC-2 certs? Is it worth doing?
[06:59] <Teufelchen> the question is why cant we humans ask meta questions anymore?
[06:59] <seednode> Ah, no idea about those.
[07:00] <KxTwo> ok odd, I on ly have one success
[07:00] <seednode> Teufelchen, you're repeating yourself.
[07:00] <Teufelchen> yes, you too
[07:00] <KxTwo> AMD Family 10h thermal sensors...                           Success!
[07:00] <KxTwo>     (driver `k10temp')
[07:02] <KxTwo> unless im missing something its not even scanning the GPU
[07:02] <seednode> Well, assuming you're using an APU, the GPU probably shares sensors with the CPU
[07:02] <seednode> Since they're on the same chip
[07:02] <Teufelchen> i am sorry for repeating. the question is still: why cant we humans ask meta questions on askubuntu.com anymore?
[07:02] <seednode> Teufelchen, someone already answered you
[07:02] <Teufelchen> no
[07:02] <goddard> can I ls and show the chmod number instead of the rxd stuff?
[07:03] <Teufelchen> my question is not answered in a satisfying way, seednode
[07:03] <seednode> goddard, the rxd stuff should be enough; I don't know of another way, but there could be one
[07:03] <KxTwo> seednode, I coudl be wrong but could have sworn I had a gpu csensor but this is a laptop so im guessing thats what you were referring to.  not sure what APU stands for?
[07:03] <Teufelchen> and its rude to ignore me
[07:03] <seednode> APU is a CPU with integrated graphics
[07:03] <milamber> !ot | Teufelchen
[07:03] <KxTwo> nice, learn something new everyday
[07:03] <seednode> Teufelchen, it's rude to assume you have priority over others with more pressing questions
[07:03] <KxTwo> what does the A stand for?
[07:04] <seednode> Accelerated, I think
[07:04] <Teufelchen> okay, i sit in the corner and wait patiently then
[07:04] <KxTwo> cool cool
[07:04] <KxTwo> maybe it was another machine then
[07:04] <seednode> Teufelchen, I honestly don't know why, as I've never asked one. Perhaps there's a new section, or the admins decided that they weren't a positive contribution to the community?
[07:04] <goddard> what is the chmod number for this and how do i know? drwxrwxr-x
[07:05] <seednode> That means admins have full permissions, and... something something
[07:05] <seednode> Someone doesn't have write permissions
[07:05] <Snafu> goddard: google chmod and octal
[07:05] <milamber> !chmod
[07:05] <seednode> Users who don't own it, I thinl
[07:05] <KxTwo> all I know is my temp has dropped almost 15c just from getting the right driver so I am happy there.  One thing I dont understand is that my psensors has TWO temp 1s the first has the id of: lmsensor acpitz-virtual-0 temp 1 the second has the id of: lmsensor k10temp-pci-00c3 temp1
[07:05] <seednode> If I understand, admin can read/write/execute, owner can do the same, and everyone can else can just read and execute
[07:06] <seednode> But my octal is a bit rusty
[07:06] <Snafu> 0-7
[07:06] <Snafu> =)
[07:06] <Snafu> 7 = 111
[07:06] <Snafu> all bits on
[07:06] <seednode> Snafu, not what I meant ^^
[07:06] <raesi> my flash device cannot be format with disk utily plz help
[07:06] <Snafu> heh
[07:07] <goddard> so user all on rwx = 7
[07:07] <Snafu> rwx = 111 in binary
[07:07] <Snafu> 011 = wx
[07:07] <goddard> that makes perfect sense thanks
[07:07] <seednode> You people and your non-decimals
[07:07] <Snafu> =)
[07:07] <Gemclip> has there been a port for the ipad yet?
[07:07] <mvt007geek>  i added this to know about user  diagnosis http://pastebin.com/wQMs0Ssc         i put this in a systemfile code.but i got this errors:  http://pastebin.com/kPPT5cLg  what library i should include???
[07:07] <raesi> error the devie is busy
[07:07] <Snafu> 001 = execute
[07:08] <OerHeks> metaquestion.~ A habit of speech and conversation whereby a questioner asks a very unspecific question
[07:08] <KxTwo> seednode, you have any ideas why psensor has two cpu temps, one virtual?
[07:09] <seednode> KxTwo, nah, sorry, I've never bothered with temps much. so long as my Thinkpad hasn't ignited, I haven't messed with sensors
[07:09] <Snafu> two processors or  one processor with 2 cores KxTwo
[07:09] <KxTwo> Snafu, thats what I was thinking too but one has an id of virtual?
[07:09] <Snafu> no idea why my friend, but id bet its cuz of cores
[07:10] <KxTwo> Snafu, and both are lsited as temp1, on my windows system with core temp it breaks the cores up though.
[07:10] <b3nj> hi
[07:10] <Snafu> what chipset u got?
[07:10] <Snafu> right click, see if u can mod properties
[07:10] <Snafu> kinda like the chipset speed via cpufreq
[07:10] <Snafu> by default it shows cpu0
[07:10] <Snafu> even if u open 20 of them
[07:10] <KxTwo> I checked I didnt see anything
[07:10] <Snafu> does windows show 2 cores?
[07:10] <KxTwo> AMD Turion(tm) II Ultra Dual-Core Mobile M600 × 2
[07:10] <KxTwo> yes
[07:10] <KxTwo> I think
[07:10] <KxTwo> lol
[07:11] <FloodBot1> KxTwo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:11] <Snafu> =)
[07:11] <Snafu> there ya go
[07:11]  * Teufelchen is still sitting in his corner, waiting for his turn
[07:11] <KxTwo> its whatever on that one, I just need to pay attention so I dont overheat.  I almost lost this laptop a few months ago due to fan issues and I wasnt paying attention.
[07:12] <KxTwo> now Snafu, I know my tmax is around 115 and sensors would agreed:  temp1:        +45.5°C  (high = +70.0°C)
[07:12] <KxTwo>                        (crit = +115.5°C, hyst = +110.5°C)
[07:12] <KxTwo> but what is hyst?
[07:13] <Snafu> http://www.computing.net/answers/cpus/what-exactly-does-hysteresis-mean/6709.html was my first hit with google "hyst temp"
[07:13] <Snafu> Gotta google man =)
[07:13] <raesi> plz help
[07:13] <raesi> my flash cannot be format
[07:13] <seednode_> Teufelchen, if anyone knew off the top of their head, they'd probably have answered. I already mentioned that I don't know, so your best bet would be Google
[07:13] <KxTwo> damn it I did but got all hysterectomy stuff lol
[07:14] <Teufelchen> seednode, i did google and stuff, sorry to be a pain in the arse. i am just worried that the website is never re-opened
[07:14] <milamber> !details | raesi
[07:14] <KxTwo> Teufelchen, I think he is referring to me for my question on hyst
[07:14] <Teufelchen> ok
[07:15] <raesi> not problem from ubuntu
[07:15] <Teufelchen> i understand
[07:15] <Teufelchen> i think
[07:15] <raesi> problem my flash error device is busy
[07:15] <raesi> and cannot be format
[07:16] <raesi> i need command for format
[07:16] <Snafu> http://www.google.com/search?q=command+for+format+linux
[07:16] <Snafu> About 25,600,000 results (0.21 seconds)
[07:16] <raesi> not work for device busy
[07:16] <Snafu> so umount it
[07:16] <milamber> raesi: you have to unmount it
[07:16] <raesi> my flash have virus
[07:17] <raesi> not format manually
[07:17] <KxTwo> snafu that site doesnt really give a lamens term answer, at least that i saw but thanks.
[07:17] <Snafu> This channel is fun =)
[07:17] <KxTwo> Snafu, I cant believe my max is so high
[07:17] <Snafu> No worries KxTwo, i didnt have the knowledge off the top of my head =)
[07:18] <KxTwo> Snafu, do you know much about max temp and if sensors is accurate?
[07:19] <Snafu> sounds like its based on past performance, and its when if u go above, performance will drop
[07:19] <Snafu> Im not a hardware dude KxTwo, sorry =(
[07:19] <seednode> I know a bit about hardware, but I'm lost
[07:19] <KxTwo> its ok lol ive accomplished all I wanted to
[07:19] <KxTwo> seednode, what are you lost about?
[07:19] <seednode> Temperatures
[07:20] <seednode> As I said, for my purposes I just let it run and hope for the best
[07:20] <KxTwo> im not sure what you are lost on?
[07:20] <KxTwo> oh, I am just using monitors that tell me hwo hot my laptop is and will warn me if it gets too hot.
[07:20] <zivester> xubuntu 12.10 here, what's the difference between xubuntu and linux mint w/ xfce (or stock  linux mint)?
[07:20] <raesi> mkfs.ext3: Permission denied while trying to determine filesystem size
[07:20] <lijif> hi
[07:21] <KxTwo> ohh that was the other thign Iw anted to look into, which DE I want to use
[07:21] <ElectricPrism> raesi: r u root?
[07:21] <raesi> yes
[07:21] <seednode> KxTwo: Well, if you asked me, I'd say Openbox. It's not a DE, per se, but I like it.
[07:21] <raesi> working
[07:21] <seednode> Convenient and lightweight
[07:21] <raesi> done
[07:21] <ElectricPrism> raesi: and you already setup the partition size using cfdisk, gdisk, etc... ?
[07:21] <KxTwo> some one earlier mentioned there is a site that benchmarked common DE's im goin to check that out
[07:21] <raesi> but my file not remove
[07:22] <KxTwo> not familiar with OpenBox
[07:22] <seednode> Well, I don't generally use DEs; I just install the programs I'll be using/.
[07:22] <seednode> It's more lightweight, and feels more streamlined
[07:23] <KxTwo> so you dont use a GUI at all?
[07:23] <KxTwo> or am I not as educated on the subect of what a DE is as I thought i was lol
[07:24] <seednode> KxTwo, A DE is a window manager and a collection of programs/utilities
[07:24] <seednode> A window manager still has a GUI
[07:25] <Snafu> Anyone here into hacking ? =)
[07:25] <raesi> dev/sdb        8.5G  2.1G  6.4G  25% /media/2891-401E
[07:25] <Snafu> fml im bored
[07:25] <raesi> not remove
[07:25] <raesi> with commands
[07:25] <KxTwo> seednode, I think its coming to me.  what is the GUI we use?  There isnt as many choices for that as DE's if I remember correctly
[07:25] <seednode> Well, Ubuntu uses GNOME3 with compiz and the Unity plugin by default
[07:26] <seednode> You can also get Ubuntu with XFCE, LXDE, KDE, or GNOME2
[07:26] <seednode> Those are the common DEs
[07:26] <KxTwo> ahh so I did have DE and GUI mixed up
[07:26] <KxTwo> when I said DE I was referring to those
[07:26] <ElectricPrism> Desktop Environment = Full Cake, Window Manager = Piece of Cake
[07:27] <seednode> Yeah, I made that mistake quite a bit
[07:27] <KxTwo> ElectricPrism, that is a beautiful way to educate the poitn!
[07:27] <seednode> ElectricPrism: Except in this case, the full cake has toppings you don't like
[07:27] <KxTwo> seednode, I think I had even learned it before but since im bouncing around a lot and not knee deep I tend to forget.
[07:28] <KxTwo> I don't notice people talkign about changing DE's but rather the GUI.  I take it you can mix and match GUI's Nd DE's though?
[07:28] <seednode> Well, GUI is just a blanket term for a graphical interface
[07:28] <seednode> All DEs provide a GUI
[07:28] <KxTwo> you said you are using a GUi without a DE?
[07:28] <OerHeks> A program can provide a gui *
[07:29] <seednode> OerHeks: True, DEs aren't the only things that provide a GUI
[07:29] <seednode> I'm just saying that, when installing a DE, you will also be installing some sort of GUI, correct?
[07:29] <KxTwo> I would assume
[07:29] <KxTwo> I have the default for 12.04
[07:29] <KxTwo> unity?
[07:29] <seednode> Eh, not a fan of Unity, myself.
[07:30] <seednode> I've never been a Ubuntu user in general, though.
[07:30] <KxTwo> I dont like the panel
[07:30] <seednode> So maybe it's just my mindset.
[07:30] <ElectricPrism> After more than a year they still wont let me move the panel to the bottom QQ
[07:30] <OerHeks> DE - desktop, that is a gui yes, but this de/gui discussion is slightly confusing
[07:30] <ElectricPrism> not everyone has a 16:9 monitor
[07:30] <KxTwo> yah im confused by it too lol
[07:30] <seednode> ElectricPrism: I love my 4:3 panel
[07:31] <seednode> KxTwo: To paraphrase, a DE will provide you with a graphical interface, but other things can, too.
[07:31] <OerHeks> ElectricPrism, there is some PPA that lets you move the unity bar to the bottom, but it can break your system
[07:31] <ElectricPrism> seednode: They did a good job, I just wish I had minimal customizability options imo,
[07:31] <seednode> Eh, I just feel like the interface gets in my way.
[07:32] <KxTwo> seednode how about this, what is my DE for 12.04?
[07:32] <seednode> Openbox is there when I need it, gone the rest of the time.
[07:32] <seednode> KxTwo: GNOME3 with Compiz
[07:32] <ElectricPrism> OerHeks: Yeah, I googled that today again and last time I heard it was working was 11.10 I think, It'd be nice if it worked in 13.04 or 12.10
[07:32] <seednode> GNOME3 is the DE, Compiz is the desktop compositor (an optional part of a window manager)
[07:32] <KxTwo> ok so whats the GUI and what is Unity?
[07:32] <OerHeks> ElectricPrism, i understand unity is still in development, some version will let you do that as a standard option
[07:32] <seednode> Well, first, stop using GUI in that way. A GUI is a general term, like a "window"
[07:33] <seednode> Don't use it as a specific part of a system
[07:33] <seednode> Unity is a plugin for Compiz that provides the lenses and sidebar
[07:33] <KxTwo> ok well what is UNITY/
[07:33] <KxTwo> is that it
[07:33] <KxTwo> I thought it was a DE and it replaced Gnome 3
[07:33] <KxTwo> wow now im really confused lol
[07:34] <ElectricPrism> OerHeks: That's good to hear
[07:34] <Hwkiller> unity is technically nothing more than a plugin for compiz
[07:34] <seednode> No, it adds on to GNOME3
[07:34] <Hwkiller> a unity session uses GNOME3 as the session and compiz as the window manager and compositor
[07:34] <seednode> Though some would say it detracts from GNOME3 :P
[07:34] <KxTwo> well then cant I just turn it off and run gnome 3 on its own?  I kind of want the DE with the best speed.
[07:35] <seednode> KxTwo, You can, yes.
[07:35] <Hwkiller> KxTwo: well, you need a window manager
[07:35] <seednode> But GNOME3 is in no way the DE with "the best speed"
[07:35] <bazhang> !notunity | KxTwo
[07:35] <seednode> GNOME3 uses metacity, by default?
[07:35] <seednode> Not sure.
[07:35] <KxTwo> some one earlier said Phoronix benchmarked and testeda ll the comon de's but havent found where yet
[07:35] <ElectricPrism> on OpenDesktop.org Unity is classified as its own desktop, there's honestly soo much going on in the DE scene right now with the Cinamon fork of Gnome 3, MATE fork of Gnome 2, Unity using Gnome 3 shell as the base >:0 I can't wait till its over and there's a victor
[07:35] <Hwkiller> well, gnome3 as a whole would use the gnome-shell, which uses metacity with mutter as a compositor (I think)
[07:35] <seednode> KxTwo: From my personal experience, lightest to heaviest: LXDE, XFCE, GNOME2, GNOME3, KDE
[07:36] <KxTwo> I was forced to sue cinnamon at schoool and I didn't like it.
[07:36] <KOunit> how to execute a command as root when sudo isn't working.
[07:36] <seednode> However, in terms of usability vs minimalism, GNOME2 struck a very nice balance
[07:36] <Hwkiller> 'cept that it's dead... :p
[07:36] <seednode> Hwkiller, eh, it still works
[07:37] <KxTwo> gnome2 is what I used a couple of years ago, it was nice.
[07:37] <ElectricPrism> Gnome 3.4's rough edges come off once you start installing extensions from http://extensions.gnome.org with the one click slider on, I personally circumvent their stupid window app menu by installing AxeMenu to give me a launcher
[07:37] <Emanon> Hey all, is it safe to use ramdisks for directories like /tmp and whatnot? And if so does anyone know of a good how-to?
[07:37] <seednode> Emanon, it should be safe; Google for a how-to, I don't know any off the top of my head
[07:37] <seednode> I think /tmp uses a ramdisk by default, though...?
[07:37] <seednode> I thought it uses tmpfs or something
[07:37] <Hwkiller> Emanon: yes! /tmp is usually set up as a ramdisk basically
[07:37] <ElectricPrism> Emanon: when in doubt - arch wiki.
[07:37] <Hwkiller> yeah; it's tmpfs /tmp tmpfs :p
[07:38] <KxTwo> hmm now I cant decide what to do
[07:38] <ElectricPrism> I hear some people merge /tmp and /var since they do similar things
[07:38] <seednode> KxTwo, Try different ones, use what you like the most
[07:38] <Snafu> what
[07:38] <Snafu> thats horrid idea ElectricPrism
[07:38] <KxTwo> what de does lubuntu come with?
[07:38] <KxTwo> xfce?
[07:38] <Hwkiller> ElectricPrism: they are stupid; don't merge those
[07:38] <seednode> Lubuntu uses LXDE
[07:38] <Hwkiller>  /var and /tmp are in no way the same
[07:38] <ElectricPrism> XD
[07:38] <KxTwo> so maybe I should try that
[07:38] <seednode> Ehhh.
[07:39] <KxTwo> one thing I love is that I can change at login
[07:39] <Emanon> Cool, so just toss tmpfs    <path to ramdisk>    tmpfs    rw,size=<size of ramdisk>,mode=777 0    0 into fstab basically?
[07:39] <seednode> I still think you should go with a window manager and the programs you'll use
[07:39] <Hwkiller> lubuntu comes w/ lxde. xubuntu is xfce. kubuntu is kde.
[07:39] <seednode> but that's just the Arch user in me speaking ^_^
[07:39] <KxTwo> why ehh?
[07:39] <KxTwo> seednode, I dont knwo what that menas though
[07:39] <seednode> I dislike the looks of LZDE
[07:39] <seednode> LXDE*
[07:39] <seednode> KxTwo: Yeah, I suppose for the time being you should use a DE
[07:39] <KxTwo>  im not fully understanding what you mean by only using a windows manager  a
[07:40] <Hwkiller> KxTwo: try it at some point and you'll understand.
[07:40] <seednode> Once you're more familiar, try switching to something like Openbox, or even a tiling WM if you'd like
[07:40] <seednode> Whatever suits you.
[07:40] <seednode> That's the point of Linux, after all
[07:40] <KxTwo> Hwkiller, Im not sure how to try it without knowing what it means.
[07:40] <Hwkiller> a DE includes a suite of applications, a session manager, a settings manager, and usually a window manager. What he is suggesting is just using a window manager with whatever applications *you want*
[07:40] <Hwkiller> that assumes however, that you know what you want :p
[07:40] <KxTwo> I would assume there is something to lsoe by only using a windows manager or everyone would do it
[07:40] <seednode> A DE includes a multitude of programs, along with a window manager
[07:41] <seednode> A window manager is all you need for a usable GUI
[07:41] <Hwkiller> well, and a launcher would be smart
[07:41] <seednode> KxTwo: Well, you "lose" the bloat that comes with most DEs :P
[07:41] <seednode> Hwkiller: Yeah, I use tint2 with openbox
[07:41] <Hwkiller> seednode: I did for a long time. Now I just use a tiler
[07:41] <Hwkiller> (I'm an arch dude too)
[07:41] <seednode> Openbox has a built-in launcher when you right-click, and tint2 keeps track of windows
[07:41] <seednode> Hwkiller, Yeah, I'm running i3 atm
[07:42] <KxTwo> Hwkiller, i was thinking of trying arch but heard you had to do everythign from scratch
[07:42] <zivester> a DE comes with a basic taskbar, and usually something nice for configuring wireless networks and whatnot... I'm not sure if tiling windo managers come with those by default?
[07:42] <seednode> KxTwo, I wouldn't recommend Arch for you until you've used a more user-friendly distro for a bit
[07:42] <seednode> zivester, A tiling WM doesn't come with anything but a taskbar, in most cases
[07:42] <KxTwo> believe it or not ive been using linux off and on for eyars lol
[07:42] <Hwkiller> zivester: no, they don't. they're not meant to. they just tile your windows for you. You get anything else you want.
[07:42] <Hwkiller> KxTwo: it's not hard, but only try it when you have a lot of time for a lot of reading. :p
[07:42] <seednode> I personally use wicd-curses for network manager, tint2 for taskbar, and openbox for menu/window manager
[07:43] <seednode> When I want to use a floating WM
[07:43] <zivester> so do you configure networks form the command line or install the GTK/QT counterparts to administer them?
[07:43] <KxTwo> Hwkiller, I guess my motivation is lacking since I dont really see any major advantages
[07:43] <seednode> Hwkiller: Eh, it only took me like 30 mins of reading to get Arch functional
[07:43] <seednode> zivester, I configure from the command line, but you can do either.
[07:43] <Hwkiller> seednode: getting it installed is easy. learning to configure your system and understanding why takes longer.
[07:43] <seednode> curses makes CLI configuration really easy
[07:43] <seednode> Hwkiller: I suppose.
[07:44] <dan_> can someone post their lenny sources? i got, deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main and deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main
[07:44] <zivester> just curious.. I'm a gnome2, who escaped to xfce... wondering how far down the rabbit hole i should go
[07:44] <dan_> im getting server not found
[07:44] <Hwkiller> zivester: I use netcfg. It's commandline, but it's basically just bash scripts.
[07:44] <KxTwo> not to mention im on a laptop so imagine Ill have driver issues
[07:44] <seednode> KxTwo: I've never really encountered driver issues
[07:44] <KxTwo> when I log in I can chose between ubuntu and ubuntu 2d whats the difference?
[07:44] <seednode> netcfg is okay, but I hate how it doesn't auto-detect networks
[07:44] <Hwkiller> KxTwo: not sure why you think that. Linux's drivers aren't really different between distros
[07:44] <seednode> So I have to configure by hand
[07:44] <KxTwo> seednode, usually I have to fight with wireless adaptes and video when installing on laptops
[07:44] <Hwkiller> seednode: you can add in auto-detection
[07:44] <Hwkiller> net-auto-wireless
[07:44] <seednode> KxTwo: True, that's why I use Thinkpads :P
[07:45] <Hwkiller> KxTwo: got broadcom?
[07:45] <KxTwo> Hwkiller, I obviously do not fully understand then.  I dont fully understand the huge difference between distros to be honest.
[07:45]  * zivester loves his X1 Carbon
[07:45] <minijerk>  /j lubuntu
[07:45] <seednode> zivester: Not personally a fan of the Carbons, but I only used one for a short while. How is it?
[07:45] <minijerk> ops
[07:45] <Hwkiller> KxTwo: honestly, the differences between distros is the out-of-the-box experience, the package manager, and the repositories.
[07:45] <dan_> any help w/ the lenny sources "not found"?
[07:46] <seednode> Also, Arch comes with systemd
[07:46] <seednode> I like systemd versus vinitscripts
[07:46] <seednode> Quicker boot, easier to manage.
[07:46] <zivester> seednode: its the only non beats thinkpad in the recent 4 years with a decent resolution... what're you running?
[07:46] <KxTwo> seednode, yah I have no idea that is lol.
[07:46] <seednode> zivester: I'm on a Thinkpad T60 with a 1400x1050 IPS screen
[07:46] <euax> exit
[07:46] <euax> quit
[07:46] <zivester> I came from a T60p -> X61t -> X1 Carbon.. couldn't be happier
[07:46] <euax> clear
[07:46] <ElectricPrism> KxTwo: Operating systems may share certain types of software like Firefox, iTunes, etc... and so linux distros share software. Each distro is like a type of ice-cream, some are chocolate, some vanilla, some catering towards easy of use, some offering OCD control over packages, etc...
[07:46] <COMPUTER> i cant boot from cd , some1 help
[07:46] <Hwkiller> KxTwo: systemd is the init system. It's the first process started after the kernel sets the system up, and it's responsible for loading everything you use.
[07:47] <seednode> 4GB RAM, 2.16GHz T60, 500GB drive, ATI video card
[07:47] <KxTwo> Hwkiller, that makes sense.  Most linux distros are customizable so from what I know you can make almost any linux run just like another distro.
[07:47] <Hwkiller> all the services (daemons), tty's, login, etc
[07:47] <COMPUTER> gateway ne71b
[07:47] <COMPUTER> laptop
[07:47] <seednode> KxTwo, the underlying system is different
[07:47] <zivester> they had IPS on T60's ?  that was a great machine
[07:47] <KxTwo> ElectricPrism is great at analogy lol
[07:47] <ElectricPrism> KxTwo: each of the distros have commonalities at the core system and are part of the Unix* or Unics family because they share commonalities in filesystem structures in order for software to work across the different distributions
[07:47] <seednode> zivester: Yes, the 15" screens higher than 1024x768 were "Flexview" IPS panels
[07:47] <seednode> Non-glossy, too
[07:48] <ElectricPrism> KxTwo: In technicality a distro is made up of the Linux Kernel and on top of that is the equivilent of command line userland, I'm not sure if GNU is still in use thus they call it GNU/Linux.
[07:48] <Hwkiller> seednode: not by much though, realistically. If you can manage an arch system, you can probably manage a debian system pretty well too. the biggest difference is init and pkg management
[07:48] <seednode> Hwkiller: Fair enough. Given that I administer debian and Arch systems, I'd say that's probably true
[07:48] <zivester> I guess I had one of those then :)  but ya, getting 1600x900 on the carbon has been great... basically I wanted an upgrade so bad for 4 years (my X61 ran HOT).. the 14" screen and res (and size) were great
[07:49] <ElectricPrism> All GUIs / Desktop Environments run on top of the X11 windowing system which is a graphical server, and there are different window systems, the most similar analogy to windows would be that Windows Explorer.exe is a window manager (although it performs other functions like file copying, file manager, etc...)
[07:49] <Hwkiller> I manage ubuntu, fedora, and arch, and there isn't much difference, other than pacman is better than the other pkg managers
[07:49] <zivester> obviously a bit expensive... although my T60p was $2800 when i got it.. so its still half that
[07:49] <seednode> ElectricPrism: Not true, you can use Wayland and several others
[07:49] <seednode> zivester: Mine was $100 slightly used
[07:49] <seednode> Totally worth it
[07:49] <ElectricPrism> seednode: In technicality you are correct, I look forward to trying wayland as soon as KDE, Gnome, etc... have done the footwork
[07:49] <seednode> Hwkiller: Pacman is even better with yaourt or the like.
[07:49] <zivester> o no doubt :) mine wasn't worth selling for me so I just donated it
[07:49] <seednode> Mmm, the AUR
[07:50] <Hwkiller> seednode: packer :)
[07:50] <Hwkiller> yaourt is an abomination
[07:50] <seednode> zivester: I would've taken that O_o
[07:50] <Hwkiller> but that's a discussion for #archlinux
[07:50] <Hwkiller> not here
[07:50] <seednode> Hwkiller: Yeah, yeah, don't start this again.
[07:50] <KxTwo> I think I delved too deep tonight.  I will have to come back another time and bug everyone to educate me
[07:50] <OerHeks> Guys, this conversations is way offtopic, lets stick to support please.
[07:50] <seednode> I don't want Indy_Falcon yelling at m
[07:50] <ElectricPrism> Pacman wasn't as good as apt-get imo, but then their community doesn't have the massive software availabe that Ubuntu / Debian flavors do
[07:50] <zivester> yah, there's no really official way to donate back to the community on here.. lol.. I just sent it to some local school
[07:51] <seednode> Time to join #ubuntu-offtopic, as well...
[07:51] <zivester> and put Windows on it :-X
[07:51] <ElectricPrism> KxTwo: People in the OSS community are often eager to help, so feel free to ask away, yeah this computer stuff takes a lot of time to learn
[07:51] <nashant2> can anyone suggest any alternatives to subsonic, or is it the best?
[07:51] <Hwkiller> nashant2: I personally find subsonic to be the best :)
[07:51] <hilarious> would it make sense that some random email port would be blocked on a new installation of ubuntu ? meaning that i would be unable to send email through that port
[07:51] <nashant2> Hwkiller: how about setting it up behind a reverse proxy?
[07:51] <Hwkiller> there are probably fancier setups, but subsonic is super easy
[07:52] <KxTwo> ElectricPrism, whats sad is Im not actually a noob.  Im actually finishing up a degree in compsci and was playing with linux back in the 90s when slackware and redhat were big choices.  I just never dived really deep into it.
[07:52] <seednode> 'Night, folks
[07:52] <dan_> can someone post their lenny sources? i got, deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main and deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main
[07:52] <dan_> am getting server not found?
[07:52] <seednode> dan_: Sorry, booted into Win7 atm
[07:53] <dan_> k
[07:53] <ElectricPrism> KxTwo: I know the feeling, I had no more room to grow in windows, and now linux is kicking my butt - Arch is a really good learning experience once you have a good understanding of how things work imo
[07:53] <OerHeks> dan_ debian/lenny is not supported here, join #debian
[07:53] <dan_> i was already there they sent me here.
[07:53] <Ben64> if you notice, this is #ubuntu
[07:54] <dan_> Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian.  Only Debian is supported on #debian.  Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead.
[07:54] <KxTwo> ElectricPrism, one thing is, if I dont know how to do soemthing I usually just follow a walkthrough but not really sure if I learn from that.  Alot of time its just copy instructions.  I set up a sever using ubuntu server on an old machine.  Not sure if I could repeat it from memory though lol
[07:54] <OerHeks> dan_ this is ubuntu, not debian. debian repos do not work on ubuntu
[07:54] <ElectricPrism> KxTwo: I reccomend watching install videos on youtube, they let someone else do the thinking and for you to do the learning, it helped me a lot
[07:54] <ElectricPrism> but im no pro
[07:55] <Hwkiller> KxTwo: just read man pages and documentation itself
[07:55] <Hwkiller> tutorials are nice, but I learn by reading the primary docs and trying to understand what each option does
[07:55] <KxTwo> I hate a lot of the man pages sometimes they are such greek lol
[07:55] <Hwkiller> then learn the greek :)
[07:56] <ElectricPrism> I would welcome a upgrade to the man pages systemwide
[07:56] <ElectricPrism> they're crude, but functional i suppose
[07:56] <KxTwo> I know im not alone.  I know there are people who are well versed on the subect and agree that the amn pages sometimes are just awful.
[07:56] <Hwkiller> sometimes they are
[07:56] <seednode> dan_: Read my PM, I think I found your error
[07:57] <Hwkiller> I can't really remember how I've learned so much. A lot of it is docs, a lot of it is watching talks, and a lot of it is just seeing or thinking of something cool and figuring out if there's a way to do it
[07:57] <ElectricPrism> I wish I had the equivilent man pages => ???? as apt-get => aptitude
[07:57] <Hwkiller> e.g., I learned all about PAM when I thought it'd be sweet to login and have admin privs using a usb key
[07:57] <jagginess> KxTwo, yeah.. it depends.. manpages are meant really only for the "familiar" imho.. it's not really a novice task.. but there's at least hints on where one can go (/usr/share/doc too is another place to check out)
[07:57] <ElectricPrism> It seems like they wrap @ around 80 characters too which sucks if your TTY or gnome-terminal can take doubble the space
[07:57] <Hwkiller> e.g., I learned all about X when configuring xorg.conf and using a standalone window manager
[07:58] <jagginess> Hwkiller, nice thing, is that xorg.conf isn't needed anymore heheheh
[07:58] <ElectricPrism> Learning about X was the most important part of learning about linux imo
[07:58] <KxTwo> you know what bugs me about my school(which is supposed to be a higher end school) is that they dont make comp sci majors take classes on linux and we don't really use it.
[07:58] <Hwkiller> jagginess: not usually; sometimes it's still useful (or at least xorg.conf.d/*.conf)
[07:58] <ElectricPrism> and how to install Nvidia drivers by command line using Lynx terminal web browser to query google when i was in trouble
[08:00] <KxTwo> alright im out thanks guys
[08:00] <ElectricPrism> KxTwo: My brother got a comp sci degree, and yeah - linux is big in the server world, but the world is soo divided about it - a bank I interviewed with just couldn't give a budge to linux at all - they felt safe and secure in windows but there's no substitute for a capable linux programmer
[08:00] <seednode> I think I learned what I know about Linux by just jumping in, killing my system, fixing it, and repeating...
[08:00] <ElectricPrism> KxTwo: goodnight
[08:00] <zozy> hmm...12.04 runs slow with unity even in 2d mode (1gb ram, 2ghz p4)
[08:00] <Hwkiller> seednode: +1 too
[08:01] <ElectricPrism> Ah, the good old days of unity 2d
[08:01] <Hwkiller> zozy: do you have a graphics chip? is it integrated, or is it nvidia or amd?
[08:01] <seednode> zozy, Those specs are a bit low for Unity
[08:01] <ElectricPrism> It too me ages to figure out how to launch a gui tool without Alt+F2 when Unity3D failed
[08:01] <zozy> integrated intel
[08:01] <zozy> seednode: i know
[08:02] <Hwkiller> eek yeah, p4 is slow; 2ghz p4 is very slow
[08:02] <zozy> but this pc is above the minimal requirements stated for default 12.04
[08:02] <zozy> :D
[08:02] <ElectricPrism> zozy: Is there some kind of repeating problem in the Ctrl + Alt + F12 log ?
[08:02] <Hwkiller> minimal requirements just means it *can* run, not that it will do so well :p
[08:02] <zozy> nope, just cpu almost on 90%
[08:02] <zozy> running constatntly
[08:03] <ElectricPrism> zozy: If speed is your goal maybe a move to MATE would be in order
[08:03] <zozy> ElectricPrism: i was just mentioniong it
[08:03] <zozy> i use icewm btw
[08:03] <ElectricPrism> cool
[08:03] <zozy> Hwkiller: it can be misleading for standard users
[08:03] <zozy> thats why i tried it out
[08:03] <zozy> to check what a normal user would experience
[08:03] <zozy> and it would be dissapointing
[08:04] <Hwkiller> I wonder how kde would be :p
[08:04] <zozy> hahaha :D
[08:04] <zozy> yeah
[08:04] <zozy> that particular computer runned well with xp
[08:04] <Hwkiller> "well"
[08:04] <ElectricPrism> I feel bad for anyone without good hardware who wants to run Ubuntu because Canonical really cut off the lower 40% of users
[08:05] <seednode> ElectricPrism: Well, I can testify that XFCE runs beautifully on a 1.6GHz Atom with 512MB RAM
[08:05] <ElectricPrism> but then again it's nice to have the software innovating, maybe they'll get it right soon
[08:05] <seednode> So they can always use Xubuntu
[08:05] <ElectricPrism> :)
[08:05] <zozy> seednode: that mentioned nowhere in the requirements afaik
[08:06] <Hwkiller> I run unity on my netbook (1.6 atom, 1gb ram, ssd)
[08:06] <ElectricPrism> seednode: Sounds like a good potential option for the NAS I need to build soonish
[08:06] <seednode> Eh, I didn't feel like it ran well on mine, though.
[08:06] <seednode> ElectricPrism, If you're building a NAS, just use debian minimal stable
[08:06] <ElectricPrism> zozy: I wonder what speed your ram is, because DDR1 to DDR2 to DDR3 really makes a huge performance difference
[08:06] <Hwkiller> if building a NAS, use a distro meant for that. there are plenty.
[08:06] <zozy> ddr2
[08:07] <zozy> ElectricPrism: my ram isnt used to 100%
[08:07] <ElectricPrism> that should be good enough imo
[08:07] <ElectricPrism> just cpu hmr
[08:07] <zozy> cpu is the performance bottleneck in this case
[08:07] <seednode> ElectricPrism, I haven't noticed many differences between DDR2 and DDR3 for my usage
[08:08] <zozy> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/minimum-hardware-reqts.html
[08:08] <ElectricPrism> seednode: I had a Opteron 165 with DDR800 and the difference upgrading to DDR3 was noticable, but yeah I wasnt expecting a Pentium 4 to have DDR2
[08:08] <zozy> this is for 12.04 and default de
[08:08] <zozy> so reading the requirements it should run smooth
[08:09] <ElectricPrism> zozy: you can always kill processes in gnome-system-monitor and by using "$>ps -a" "$>killall -9 firefox", etc...
[08:09] <helmut_> hi
[08:09] <seednode> zozy, Those are minimal requirements. I'd double that for recommended requirements
[08:09] <kaushal> Hi
[08:09] <zozy> seednode: the minimal requirements are 44 mb ram
[08:09] <zozy> :D
[08:09] <zozy> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/memory-disk-requirements.html
[08:09] <kaushal> is there a way to lock screen in Ubuntu 11.10 when there is no activity for 5 mins?
[08:09] <seednode> zozy: When they say minimal, they mean the system will run. Nothing more.
[08:10] <zozy> i see
[08:10] <seednode> Hell, debian minimal has issues running sub-50MB if you add anything
[08:10] <seednode> And that's without GUI and all
[08:10] <zozy> anyway, with icewm it runs good
[08:10] <zozy> but thats not exactly thrown into the face of an average user
[08:10] <seednode> The 20MB requirement is without any programs or a DE
[08:11] <zozy> wouldnt it be helpful to avoid disapointment in ppl meeting first time with ubuntu (that have older machines)
[08:11] <zozy> that they would get a section in the wiki
[08:11] <zozy> i have an old pc, what to do
[08:11] <zozy> ?
[08:11] <seednode> Ubuntu was never intended for older machines
[08:11] <zozy> (just a suggestion)
[08:12] <seednode> But I completely agree
[08:12] <raesi696> Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: Error calling fsync(2) on /dev/sdb: Input/output error
[08:12] <raesi696> plz help
[08:12] <ElectricPrism> zozy: I gotta admit the people that make linux probably have nicer computers than they do cars, all chromed out in water cooling, etc... imo so you're really safe with high speced stuff which sucks if you're broke
[08:12] <raesi696> cannot format flash
[08:12] <zozy> ElectricPrism: i myself use a macbook pro for everyday computing
[08:12] <seednode> ElectricPrism, I wouldn't go that far.
[08:13] <zozy> i just tested 12.04 on an old hw to see what it can get put of it
[08:13] <ElectricPrism> seednode: I admit I don't have water cooling, but my point still explains itself
[08:13] <seednode> I use my six year old laptop for everything
[08:13] <seednode> And it runs any distro I've tried without an issue
[08:14] <Myrtti> we're veering off from actual support issues
[08:14] <ElectricPrism> zozy: You can always run a live ubuntu cd if you wanna mess around
[08:14] <seednode> Myrtti: That tends to happen a lot, doesn't it :/
[08:14] <seednode> Everyone, let's move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:14] <zozy> ;)
[08:18] <martian> I've got a series of statements in a view that set a value of an existing object only if a value on the form was specified. Given the following sequence, is there a better (dry) way of doing this? http://pastebin.com/dm25R9gH
[08:19] <raesi696> Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: Error calling fsync(2) on /dev/sdb: Input/output error
[08:19] <raesi696> plz help
[08:19] <ElectricPrism> Is the ubuntu wayland update still as far out as 14.04? And does anyone know if they're still planning on using it in place of X11 be default?
[08:19] <ElectricPrism> raesi696: give us more information, what were you doing when the error was caused
[08:19] <martian> oh, wrong channel :o
[08:20] <raesi696> ElectricPrism: after format with disk utilly
[08:20] <ElectricPrism> raesi696: during install?
[08:20] <raesi696> no
[08:21] <raesi696> during format my flash
[08:21] <ElectricPrism> raesi696: You can always format it in gnome-terminal if it contains no valuable data on it
[08:22] <raesi696> no not valuable data
[08:22] <raesi696> i just need format
[08:23] <ElectricPrism> raesi696: $>cfdisk /dev/sdb  , create a vanilla partition, and then write and exit,    and then   $>mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1     assuming you want ext4, i imagine $> mkfs.exfat is an option as well
[08:24] <raesi696>                            FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive
[08:24] <ElectricPrism> raesi696 is it mounted? umount /dev/sdb ?
[08:25] <raesi696> w8
[08:25] <ElectricPrism> windows8?
[08:25] <raesi696>  no wait
[08:25] <ElectricPrism> k
[08:25] <raesi696> Unmount failed: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken
[08:26] <ElectricPrism> raesi696: You could just unplug it and plug the usb flash drive into another usb port
[08:26] <weby> Did you wait 3 days to call?
[08:26] <raesi696> ok
[08:28] <gnomefreak> how did they deduce all those options
[08:29] <ElectricPrism> ?
[08:29] <gnomefreak> easier to say "it could be anything"
[08:30] <ElectricPrism> gnomefreak: Ah, I read deduce as reduce since it looks so similar
[08:32] <TheBigElectron> Hi there all. I have gotten RT3070 working on ubntu 12.10 using this http://www.ralinktech.com/en/04_support/support.php?sn=501 driver and this http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-install-rt2870-chipset-based-usb-wireless-adapter.html guide but now it completely hangs Ubuntu 12.10 after about 30sec. Any ideas anyone?
[08:35] <ElectricPrism> TheBigElectron: I have an idea, but it's not cake. Boot the live cd, mount the linux filesystem to /tmp/ubuntu    chroot /tmp/ubuntu and disable it using modprobe -r, or blacklist it idk
[08:38] <TheBigElectron> Cool ideas ElectricPrism, I neglected to mention that the system won't hang if I leave the NIC out (it's USB)
[08:38] <ElectricPrism> TheBigElectron, cool, so then all you need to do is disable it i suppose, or reinstall i suppose
[08:39] <ElectricPrism> I assume you can blacklist stuff under /etc/modprobe.d/  by creating .conf files similar to arch
[08:39] <TheBigElectron> I just released that I should be looking at system logs and going through this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash to see what is going on.
[08:58] <Jacinto> can someone tell me if driver for prism2 comes with ubuntu 10.04 or 11.10 I heard there are 2 orinoco and hostap but ubuntu tries to load both I modprobe -r both but when I enable hostap_cs it still doesn't work, I want to run live
[08:59] <binbinsh> hi all, sorry for multiple post: I created an Gentoo ebuild for libreoffice 3.6.4 with Ubuntu's unitymenu patch, I emerge this package with USE "cups dbus gstreamer gtk opengl vba", but I only got libreoffice without menubar, and no global menu bar show in my KDE desktop's menubar widget. The unitymenu.diff is got from the ubuntu package patch. Is there any missing steps for me to get the appmenu support? Is there any design doc for the unity menu
[08:59] <binbinsh> [16:52] <binbinsh> support, or do I have to read the code?
[09:08] <Jacinto> can someone tell me if driver for prism2 comes with ubuntu 10.04 or 11.10 I heard there are 2 orinoco and hostap but ubuntu tries to load both I modprobe -r both but when I enable hostap_cs it still doesn't work, I want to run live
[09:10] <OerHeks> !info prism2-usb-firmware-installer
[09:10] <Jacinto> is not usb is pccard
[09:13] <OerHeks> Jacinto, i have no experience with the pci version
[09:14] <nashant2> anyone here set up subsonic behind a reverse proxy?
[09:18] <calavera> Hey can anybody help me here?
[09:19] <Ben64> calavera: Last I checked, there are no psychics in this channel
[09:19] <elfer> ugh
[09:20] <Abhijit> !ask | calavera
[09:20] <calavera> Ben64: I was merely seeing if anybody was here.
[09:20] <calavera> Apparently there is.
[09:20] <calavera> In any case...
[09:21] <Abhijit> !ask | calavera
[09:21] <calavera> I've been wrestling with the MBR and grub2 for a good while now. I restored the MBR, and put my Windows drive into the sdb position. Now, when I try and get into Windows from Grub, it tells me that it cannot find a root device.
[09:21] <elfer> i need a copper wire cage
[09:22] <Jacinto> calavera? eres tu
[09:23] <calavera> Jacinto: Yo no puedo hablar ni una palabra de espanol, senor.
[09:24] <elfer> gracis
[09:24] <elfer> gracias
[09:24] <Jacinto> I can't help you
[09:24] <Jacinto> I know ubuntu comes with a rebuilder for grub
[09:24] <elfer> i know.....
[09:24] <calavera> Should I run the boot restore (or whatever program that they call it)
[09:24] <Jacinto> but I also like the manual wey
[09:25] <Ben64> calavera: can you get into ubuntu
[09:25] <calavera> I'm in Ubuntu
[09:25] <calavera> Well... Kubuntu
[09:26] <Ben64> calavera: so what pops up the "cannot find root" problem? windows or grub?
[09:27] <calavera> GRUB prompts me what I want to boot. I can get into GNU/Linux just fine. It can't get into Windows.
[09:29] <Ben64> calavera: I know, but I'm asking if its a windows error or a grub one
[09:29] <calavera> I'm pretty sure that it's a GRUB2 error.
[09:30] <Ben64> calavera: could you pastebin /etc/grub/grub.cfg
[09:30] <Ben64> err... /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[09:30] <calavera> Ben64: Yeah, give me a second.
[09:30] <milamber> calavera: also have you run boot-repair?
[09:31] <calavera> I manually restored GRUB via nano with some help.
[09:31] <milamber> !grub2 | calavera
[09:32] <calavera> http://paste.opensuse.org/fdd4fbf5
[09:32] <milamber> calavera: in the restore grub link there are instructions to run boot-repair, why don't you try that first?
[09:33] <calavera> ubottu: I'll check it out. Thank you.
[09:33] <fairuz_> Hi guys. Update-grub doesn't detect my win installation. What can I do? thanks
[09:33] <milamber> !grub2 > fairuz_
[09:35] <fairuz_> Already took a look at that milamber
[09:36] <milamber> fairuz_: can you pastebin the recommendations from boot-repair please
[09:42] <calavera> Ben64: Are you still there?
[09:42] <lemonsparrow> I am trying to start my nginx server using the command sudo /etc/init.d/nginx start and I get this error : start-stop-daemon: command not found
[09:42] <lemonsparrow> how can I fix this ?
[09:42] <lemonsparrow> oS is RHEL server 6
[09:43] <lemonsparrow> 6.3
[09:44] <Jdeks> hi
[09:44] <Jdeks> don't suppose anyone's free to help with a LUKS problem?
[09:45] <Jdeks> hello?
[09:47] <Jdeks> anyone here?
[09:47] <ikonia> many people are here
[09:47] <fennng_> ls
[09:47] <fennng_> 中文?
[09:48] <ikonia> !cn | fennng_
[09:48] <Jdeks> anyone know much about LUKS?
[09:48] <fennng_> xterm
[09:48] <fennng_> xterm
[09:48] <fennng_> xterm
[09:48] <FloodBot1> fennng_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:50] <fennng_> donno what happen
[09:51] <k1l> !ask | Jdeks
[09:52] <Jdeks> THe situation is....complex
[09:52] <Jdeks> putting it in one line would be impossible
[09:52] <ikonia> Jdeks: just state the problem
[09:52] <Jdeks> okay then
[09:53] <Jdeks> Had a laptop with full disk enc set up using the 12.04 alternate disk
[09:53] <Jdeks> backed up the entire laptop's hard drive using 'dd'
[09:53] <Jdeks> copied EVERYTHING, boot partitions and all
[09:53] <Jdeks> went fine, no worries
[09:53] <shwouchk_> hello
[09:54] <Jdeks> later, i plugged in the backup drive to the same laptop, and tried to mount it, so i could copy new files to the backup
[09:54] <Jdeks> except, it wouldnt mount.
[09:54] <shwouchk_> I'm using ubuntu 12.10 on a computer with an intel centrino 2230 wifi card. For some reason I can only see B/G networks. How can I enable the N functionality?
[09:55] <Jdeks> shut down the laptop with the backup still plugged in
[09:55] <Jdeks> it did a proper shut down, no worries
[09:55] <Jdeks> unplugged the backup, treied to restart the laptop
[09:56] <MonkWitDaFunk> does dd create images and clones?
[09:57] <Jdeks> it wouldn't. after the initial cryptsetup password prompt, it drops to a initramfs prompt, saying it cant find /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root
[09:57] <Jdeks> it'll only start if i plug back in the external backup, in which case it actually boots off the backup, not the internal drive
[09:57] <Jdeks> if i try to take the internal drive out and mount it on another computer, it wont mount either
[10:03] <shwouchk_> anyone?
[10:05] <ikonia> anyone what ?
[10:05] <ikonia> !anyone | shwouchk_
[10:07] <floridsdorf> hi
[10:07] <Ironsight> I want to install kubuntu, I currently have windows 8 installed (upgraded from 7). Will grub2 mess up windows 8 or vice versa? Is there something special I need to do upon installation?
[10:07] <raven_> hi
[10:07] <Ironsight> (or ubuntu/xubuntu/lubuntu)
[10:08] <raven_> problems with WinTV Aero dvb-t stick. need help please. dmesg: http://pastebin.com/cE3uiGFZ
[10:08] <jdeks> sorry, connection dropped. did anyone have any ideas for my little problem?
[10:09] <Ironsight> Has anyone had any issues dual booting windows 8 and *ubuntu?
[10:10] <jdeks> if its anything like getting windows 7 and ubuntu to co-operate,i woulkd say yes, hella issues
[10:11] <Ironsight> I didn't have any issues with windows 7 and ubuntu o.O
[10:11] <kroq-gar78> jdeks, i guess it really depends on which machines. I've never really had problems with getting them to cooperate.
[10:11] <jdeks> well, ashit, i cant even get ubuntu to work on its own at the moment
[10:12] <jdeks> so im obviously doing something wrong
[10:12] <Ironsight> unless you wanted to look at data in your ubuntu partition in windows 7 since it can't read ext4/ext3/zfs/xfs/btrfs/risorfs
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> jdeks  my advice: post the LUKS issue on a help forum
[10:13] <jdeks> have done already
[10:13] <jdeks> on TWO
[10:13] <jdeks> they said come here
[10:13] <raven_> problems with WinTV Aero dvb-t stick. need help please. dmesg: http://pastebin.com/cE3uiGFZ
[10:13] <jdeks> after 2 days of basically silence
[10:14] <kroq-gar78> jdeks, I'm not an expert, but vgchange -ay find anythingy?
[10:14] <jdeks> "no volume groups found"
[10:14] <mvt007geek> who is familiar with emu8086 here ?
[10:14] <jdeks> SOMEHOW, the original internal laptop drive no longer has a 'volume group'
[10:14] <bekks> mvt007geek: Why not just asking your actual question?
[10:14] <codephobic> hi
[10:14] <kroq-gar78> !ask | mvt007geek
[10:15] <bekks> raven_: Line 6, you are missing firmware.
[10:15] <raven_> bekks, no - its all in the right folder
[10:15] <bekks> raven_: You paste says something different. And I believe in your paste.
[10:15] <mvt007geek> ubottu: ok :)
[10:16] <codephobic> I think I might have installed eclipse Juno incorrectly. I have it in my "/opt" folder, it seems to work well when I launch it by double-clicking the icon in the folder, but when I try to launch it via terminal ("eclipse") I am told that it is not installed. Also, the icon is nowhere on the launcher of within the menu system.
[10:16] <raven_> bekks, ls -l in /lib/firmware/KERNEL says me lot more different things than the paste
[10:16] <jdeks> if anyone cares, here's more on my problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/233684/luks-initramfs-boot-problem-dev-mapper-ubuntu-root-does-not-exist
[10:16] <raven_> otherwise i would not ask
[10:17] <kroq-gar78> codephobic: what method did you "install" it?  a package? a script? copy-paste?
[10:17] <jdeks> and here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12428680#post12428680
[10:17] <codephobic> kroq-gar78, I just downloaded the package, I think.
[10:17] <bekks> raven_: The paste clearly states that the firmware cannot be loaded - so it is missing a loadable firmware.
[10:18] <kroq-gar78> codephobic: from where? was it a .tar.gz or .tar.bz2?
[10:18] <raven_> i know but i do not know why
[10:18] <bekks> raven_: Because of a corrupt file, a file not matching the device, etc.
[10:18] <raven_> hm
[10:18] <codephobic> kroq-gar78, from the eclipse website - juno. I downloaded and extracted the package and placed it within the '/opt' folder.
[10:19] <mvt007geek> bekks: i have debian now.i want to run an emu8086 program.where i can do it?
[10:20] <bekks> codephobic: You have to add the path to the eclipse binary to your $PATH
[10:20] <bekks> mvt007geek: Not in here. We do not support debian. Maybe just ask in #debian
[10:20] <kroq-gar78> codephobic: yeah, all I can find on there is .tar files. you probably want to either create a symlink from the eclipse directory to the /usr/bin directory or add the eclipse directory to the path
[10:20] <codephobic> kroq-gar78, I can't remember exactly, to be honest (installed it last week)
[10:20] <codephobic> bekks, ah I think that might be the problem!
[10:21] <mvt007geek> bekks:  what can i do now? in there they told use wine but wine didn't work:(
[10:21] <codephobic> kroq-gar78, bekks so basically I create a ln -s within /usr/bin to /opt/eclipse/eclipse?
[10:22] <bekks> mvt007geek: We have no clue about debian and we do not support it.
[10:22] <gnomefreak> mvt007geek: if wine doesnt support it and if there is no way to build it than you cant use it
[10:22] <kroq-gar78> codephobic: just the executable, but yes, that's the idea.
[10:22] <bekks> codephobic: No. Add a path entry in $PATH to point to /opt/eclipse-installdir/eclipse-binary
[10:22] <kroq-gar78> bekks: is there a difference or a security problem with a symlink?
[10:23] <gnomefreak> shouldnt be
[10:23] <mvt007geek> bekks: gnomefreak: thanks
[10:23] <gnomefreak> np
[10:23] <Jordan_U> jdeks: Having two volumes with the same UUID in the same machine is always a bad idea. Universally Unique IDentifiers really need to be Unique. My guess is that somehow your LUKS volume on the internal drive was corrupted while trying to write to it / the external (perhaps for example, something opened /dev/disk/by-uuid/foo and another process wrote to /dev/disk/by-uuid/foo as part of unmounting, thinking it was the same device ( ...
[10:23] <Jordan_U> ... and the device /dev/disk/by-uuid/foo pointed to changed after adding the external disk).
[10:24] <Jordan_U> jdeks: Be careful that your backup doesn't get corrupted in the same way.
[10:24] <bekks> kroq-gar78: There shouldnt be, but thats the "normal" way to add applications to your path. In /usr/bin you normally do not have things from /opt
[10:25] <jdeks> hi jordan, thanks, mind if we move this to private convo?
[10:26] <kroq-gar78> mvt007geek: looks like a lot of people are referring to pcemu, but i've got no experience with it, sorry.
[10:26] <Jordan_U> jdeks: I prefer to keep support discussion in-channel where more people can chime in, and ensure that you're getting good advice. Also I'm going to sleep soon, which would make someone else jumping in that much more valuable :)
[10:26] <smilie> Hi! I have problem with phpmyadmin and documentaion tells me to go to ./scripts folder. Do you know where is it? I'm desperate while looking for it.
[10:27] <jdeks> okay
[10:27] <jdeks> no worried
[10:27] <jdeks> your hypopthesis is what I suspected (in general terms). I should have realized it was a bad idea.
[10:27] <jdeks> question is, is there any way to read the data off the orignal drive now?
[10:27] <jdeks> or is it lost?
[10:27] <smilie> is this help channel btw? O_o
[10:28] <bekks> smilie: Yes.
[10:28] <smilie> thx :))
[10:28] <smilie> and does anyone know what mean that ./ ?
[10:28] <smilie> or where should I look for ./scripts?
[10:28] <codephobic> bekks, I've just had a google of adding to $PATH, and I got a stackoverflow suggestion to add the line into my "bashrc" file, but I don't see anywhere in there that it would naturally fit. Also, aren't .bash.. files user specific (this one sits in the base of my personal home directory), surely that's not the correct way to do it?
[10:29] <bekks> smilie: It means "execute the following script or file from the current directory".
[10:29] <k1l> smilie: ./ is meant as the directory you are currently on
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> smilie  . means current directory, in general
[10:29] <bekks> codephobic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[10:29] <k1l> smilie: so its a subfolder from the position you are on
[10:29]  * gnomefreak wonders if i should repeat what every else said :P
[10:30] <smilie> ah, great. then I suppose I need to read whole manual for phpmyadmin O_o
[10:30] <codephobic> thanks bekks
[10:30] <codephobic> thanks kroq-gar78 too
[10:30] <jdeks> Jordan_U: I don't really care about getting the original internal drive bootable again.I just want to get it mounted somehow, so I can get my last week of work off it. everything else is on the backup, with DOES mount just fine
[10:31] <Jordan_U> jdeks: I don't know much about recovering from problems with LUKS other than that it's good to have a backup of the LUKS header, which thankfully you do.
[10:31] <jdeks> okay
[10:31] <kroq-gar78> similie probably it's where phpmyadmin was installed
[10:31] <jdeks> well thanks for your help in any case
[10:31] <bekks> smilie: How did you install it?
[10:31] <jdeks> much appreciated
[10:31] <Jordan_U> jdeks: I would recommend against mounting the backup while the original is connected to the same machine, even if the original is unmountable.
[10:31] <kroq-gar78> similie, my guess is the directory "/usr/share/phpmyadmin/pmd/scripts", based on the package listing
[10:32] <smilie> bekks: via center of soft for ubuntu (i have xubuntu)
[10:32] <jdeks> Jordan: roger. backup is now 'quaraNTINED'
[10:33] <Jordan_U> jdeks: Hopefully some of http://code.google.com/p/cryptsetup/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#6._Backup_and_Data_Recovery is helpful.
[10:33] <jdeks> thanks
[10:34] <smilie> kroq_gar78: thx I've found that folder. It exists, but there are no sql scripts in it
[10:34] <smilie> only js scripts
[10:37] <Jordan_U> jdeks: It looks like the best place to go for LUKS support is the dm-crypt mailing list<EMAIL_ADDRESS>.
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> .de, that's german
[10:38] <llutz> domain is german, content isn't
[10:40] <jdeks> Jordan_U: excellent. I'll send them an email. Thanks very much :)
[10:42] <Jordan_U> jdeks: You're welcome.
[10:44] <smilie> well, my main problem is that I installed PhpMyAdmin via Center of software for Ubuntu (Xubuntu) and it makes me troubles. Variables of PMA are not working well, they are red. Do you know how to repair quickly?
[10:44] <smilie> Reinstall is not working
[10:45] <bekks> smilie: A reinstall most likely does not repair things - on linux, in general.
[10:45] <cousin_luigi> Greetings.
[10:45] <cousin_luigi> How come acroread is no longer available on Quantal?
[10:45] <smilie> yeah, just people sooner on mint forums adviced me things like that
[10:45] <bekks> smilie: It depends on the variables you are trying to use. And yes, you have to get through the phpmyadmin manual to get to know on how to set and use them.
[10:46] <smilie> bekks: it's 10 variables, and documentation not working. It's telling me to execute scripts which are not there
[10:47] <bekks> smilie: Do you use Mint?
[10:47] <smilie> bekks: no, i'm on xubuntu now
[10:47] <ThinkT510> cousin_luigi: some software can get removed from the repos for various reasons, usually because they are no longer maintained
[10:48] <bekks> smilie: "Documentation not working" means what exactly?
[10:48] <smilie> bekks: short manual how to do it tells me: "Create tables by script in ./scripts/create_tables.sql
[10:48] <OerHeks> cousin_luigi, get it from their website http://get.adobe.com/uk/reader/otherversions/
[10:48] <smilie> bekks: there are no sql scripts in there
[10:49] <Abhijit> hi. i am getting error xlib exntension xfree86 dri missing on display 0:0.
[10:49] <smilie> bekks: only ajax.js history.js iecanvas.js move.js
[10:49] <Abhijit> help please
[10:49] <bekks> smilie: Which Ubuntu do you use exactly - which version?
[10:49] <Abhijit> on ubuntu 12.04
[10:49] <smilie> xubuntu 12.10
[10:51] <bekks> smilie: Look at /usr/share/doc/phpmyadmin/examples/create_tables.sql.gz
[10:51] <cousin_luigi> OerHeks: I'd like a repository so that I won't have to keep it up-to-date manually.
[10:51] <cousin_luigi> ThinkT510: It's still available for precise.
[10:52] <bekks> smilie: And basically, those PMA tables/variables arent needed.
[10:52] <cousin_luigi> ThinkT510: Does it mean it will have an unsupported package for the next 3-5 years or so?
[10:53] <ThinkT510> cousin_luigi: there must be a reason for it not being included in quantal, i just gave you the most common one, i don't know if it applies to acroread
[10:53] <ki9a> is there anythingthat would let me send keystrokes to the running X via an ssh window? I have xbmc running on ubuntu without a keyboard attached and want to type something
[10:54] <ThinkT510> cousin_luigi: what's wrong with evince?
[10:54] <bekks> ThinkT510: Evince has problems with certain PDF forms, with certain PDF containing DRM stuff, etc.
[10:54] <cousin_luigi> ThinkT510: Some documents, especially ones with interactive contents, aren't rendered well on evince.
[10:55] <smilie> bekks: thx, i have that sql script, gonna launch it.
[10:55] <cousin_luigi> This said, does anyone know if there's a repository, more or less official, for adobe reader?
[10:55] <bekks> cousin_luigi: Just download it from www.adobe.com
[10:56] <gnomefreak> i cant recall if the extra repos has it or not
[10:56] <Ycarene> I have wine 1.5.20 installed and I want to revert it to wine 1.5.19, how would I do that?
[10:57] <ThinkT510> cousin_luigi: acroread doesn't appear to be in precise either, are you sure it isn't in the partner repo or something?
[10:57] <cousin_luigi> bekks: see above
[10:58] <cousin_luigi> ThinkT510: It is in the partner repo, but not for Quantal.
[10:58] <ThinkT510> cousin_luigi: oh
[10:58] <bekks> cousin_luigi: You could use okular instead.
[10:58] <cousin_luigi> bekks: stop wasting my time
[10:58] <bekks> cousin_luigi: Sorry for being helpful.  For some reason I can only see B/G networks. How can I enable the N functionality?
[11:04] <NikP> When I shutdown my server over "sudo shutdown -P now", the harddrive stops and all services stopped too, but the system power does not switch after the system halt.
[11:05] <NikP> (My english isn't so good)
[11:05] <sl3ax> hi to all! In lsof 4.81 in Ubuntu 12.04 there's a -D flag in the man. The binary doesn't accept it anyway. lsof -h doesn't list -D flag. SO there isn't?
[11:07] <ThinkT510> sl3ax: if you think you've found a bug you can report it, please make sure the bug doesn't already exist first
[11:07] <ThinkT510> !launchpad | sl3ax
[11:07] <tarunno> hello everyone
[11:08] <tarunno> I am having trouble adding a network printer in 12.04
[11:08] <tarunno> can anyone help
[11:08] <gnomefreak> use ubuntu-bug $PACKAGE it will give you possible results to dups
[11:09] <gnomefreak> sl3ax: ^^^
[11:09] <GregMarkus> chrome browser wont do anything, seems likke a common problem but only finding windows solutions - anyone know a fix?
[11:10] <ThinkT510> GregMarkus: any reason you're not using chromium instead?
[11:11] <disharmonic> tarunno, what's the issue?
[11:11] <gnomefreak> "wont do anything" its really hard to help you if you dont explain the isssus
[11:11] <gnomefreak> this is also something you want to file a bug report on
[11:12] <GregMarkus> ThinkT510,  none that i can rememebr i tried it before something about it sucked
[11:12] <tarunno> disharmonic: found an issue already
[11:12] <GregMarkus> gnomefreak, if you've had this issue it would
[11:12] <tarunno> cups service wasn't running
[11:12] <ThinkT510> GregMarkus: chrome isn't in the repos, chromium is; that means we can only support chromium here
[11:12] <disharmonic> ah k
[11:13] <GregMarkus> ThinkT510,  ok i'll give chromium a try then
[11:13] <tarunno> disharmonic: wasn't able to enter the cups webinterface
[11:13] <GregMarkus> just hope it doesn't suck
[11:13] <gnomefreak> GregMarkus: i reccomend you try chromium to see if it changes
[11:14] <JohnSnowstorm> hello, I want to get audio highlights working in xchat but can't find the default sounds, I downloaded a couple of other beeps in mp3 but they sound like really harsh static when played with the default player, any suggestions?
[11:14] <shwouchk_> I'm using ubuntu 12.10 on a computer with an intel centrino 2230 wifi card. For some reason I can only see B/G networks. How can I enable the N functionality?
[11:14] <GregMarkus> gnomefreak, well it wont change it , it will just be giving up and trying something else -the fact is at this moment I need it up(if it can run the extensions) more than /I need to fix it so I'll address chrome later
[11:14] <selite> Hello, what is the channel for C Programming?
[11:14] <bazhang> JohnSnowstorm, ask in #xchat
[11:15] <bazhang> ##c selite
[11:15] <aLeSD> hi there
[11:15] <JohnSnowstorm> kk, will do.
[11:15] <aLeSD> could you suggest me a good app for twitter in 12.10 ?
[11:15] <GregMarkus> chromium-bsu
[11:15] <bazhang> aLeSD, apt-cache search twitter to find something
[11:15] <ThinkT510> GregMarkus: chromium-browser
[11:15] <GregMarkus> sweet
[11:17] <disharmonic> tarunno, glad you solved it ;)
[11:17] <GregMarkus> ThinkT510, weird only bsu showed at first, now all do...and now chrome is working
[11:20] <sl3ax> hi to all! In lsof 4.81 in Ubuntu 12.04 there's a -D flag in the man. The binary doesn't accept it anyway. lsof -h doesn't list -D flag. SO there isn't?
[11:20] <jackbrown> hello
[11:20] <AJBLR> hello
[11:21] <sl3ax> NikP: have you tried also with poweroff or init 0?
[11:22] <thunder1212> how can i create live usb for any linux distro in ubuntu 12.04
[11:22] <bazhang> thunder1212, it varies. is it a hybrid iso? you could use dd or just cat the iso to the stick
[11:22] <OerHeks> thunder1212, unetbootin can
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> !usb > thunder1212
[11:23] <bazhang> thunder1212, there is also unetbootin
[11:23] <bazhang> thunder1212, ubuntu and debian use a hybrid iso for the latest
[11:25] <thunder1212> bazhang:  OerHeks i tried unet bootin but while booting it shows no operaating system found
[11:27] <thunder1212> how do i find if its hybrid
[11:27] <bazhang> thunder1212, depends. what distro. search distrowatch.com or the like and find out
[11:28] <bazhang> thunder1212, or just ask in their channel here in freenode
[11:28] <thunder1212> bazhang: ok yeah thanks...
[11:29] <bazhang> thunder1212, you can use alis to find their channels
[11:29] <bazhang> !alis | thunder1212
[11:30] <jackbrown> could anyone expalin me why in the startup applications vino-server is set  with this command? "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server --sm-disable"
[11:30] <thunder1212> msg alis Mag
[11:31] <Fuchs> /msg alis      including the /, which has to be the first character. You also want to include the wildcards (*)
[11:31] <protheus> Hi
[11:34] <shwouchk_> ikonia: I did ask my real question. I just didn't want to repeat it too soon
[11:34] <shwouchk_> I'm using ubuntu 12.10 on a computer with an intel centrino 2230 wifi card. For some reason I can only see B/G networks. How can I enable the N functionality?
[11:35] <idruta> are you sure that ur router is supporting N?
[11:35] <hilarious> is there a similar command to control-z that would let me 'background' a program without it being connected to that particular terminal window ?
[11:35] <idruta> hilarious, screen?
[11:35] <hilarious> of course but let's say i'm already started and i forgot to use screen
[11:36] <MalMen> hello, it is possible install ubuntu in a android based tablet ?
[11:36] <idruta> is the service so critical? write to your bashrc startup command for screen
[11:37] <idruta> so each time you open a terminal, the screen is autostarting
[11:37] <bekks> hilarious: Then you have no chance.
[11:37] <hilarious> that is a great idea
[11:38] <hilarious> i installed ubuntu on a 4GB usb drive
[11:38] <shwouchk_> idruta: yes. It has 2 networks and I'm connected to the N one with the ipad
[11:38] <idruta> hilarious, yup...it's really usefull
[11:38] <hilarious> on a laptop with no hd
[11:38] <hilarious> it works ok, including libre office
[11:38] <shwouchk_> hilarious: let me suggest tmux however, so that you can attach to the same session from multiple terminals
[11:39] <hilarious> if my other computers all died at the same time
[11:39] <hilarious> it would be of use
[11:39] <idruta> shwouchk_, what card do you use? check if there is a specific driver for your card
[11:39] <shwouchk_> hilarious: also, I would discourage the idea because you would have a bunch or screen sessions running all the time
[11:39] <hilarious> never heard of tmux
[11:39] <shwouchk_> idruta: there is and it is installed
[11:40] <hilarious> shwouchk_,  - i can do that with screen though
[11:40] <hilarious> what is different
[11:40] <shwouchk_> idruta: and I said what card I use
[11:40] <hilarious> you mean fully 'attach' it to that terminal
[11:40] <shwouchk_> hilarious: you can connect to the same screen session from multiple terminals? how?
[11:40] <idruta> shwouchk_, oh sry, let me think
[11:40] <bekks> shwouchk_: screen -x
[11:41] <hilarious> at the same time ?
[11:41] <bekks> shwouchk_: Yes.
[11:41] <bekks> hilarious: ^^
[11:41] <idruta> shwouchk_, can you try it on the other linux machine?
[11:42] <hilarious> dunno, i connect to my screen sessions from whatever terminal i think
[11:42] <shwouchk_> idruta: no other machine, and it is a laptop
[11:42] <shwouchk_> hilarious: but not simultaniously
[11:42] <hilarious> yeah but i don't even understand what 'simultaneously' means
[11:42] <idruta> shwouchk_, oh, ok then, are you sure that the specific drivers is loaded and using by ur card?
[11:42] <_bb_> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[11:42] <shwouchk_> hilarious bekks apparently simultaneously
[11:42] <shwouchk_> nice
[11:43] <shwouchk_> idruta: we are talking, aren't we?
[11:43] <hilarious> do the two terminals fight over the cursor ?
[11:44] <bekks> shwouchk_: hilarious: Using screen, it is possible to connect from whatever terminal, AND, in addition, it is possible to connect from two or more terminals at the same time.
[11:44] <shwouchk_> hilarious: no idea what that means
[11:44] <hilarious> well sorry
[11:44] <hilarious> i just have no concept of what it means to have two terminals connected to one screen session at the same time
[11:45] <shwouchk_> did you ever use a computer with two monitors showing the same thing?
[11:45] <hilarious> yeah
[11:45] <shwouchk_> hilarious: same thing
[11:45] <bekks> hilarious: It is designed to share a terminal, to show someone on the second terminal what you are doing, and to look at what the other one is doing.
[11:46] <hilarious> so that's what i'm saying, i mean, let's say that i'm over here connected to a screen session from a terminal and then someone else has an ssh session to another terminal on this machine, and they are simultaneously connected to the same screen session that my terminal is connected to
[11:46] <hilarious> so if i am typing right arrow and they are typing left arrow will the cursor keep going back and forth ?
[11:47] <nicofs> I can't "find" dvb-t channels in Kaffein - there is a device, I can scan - but there are no results. While scanning, signal strength varies from 27%-100% and the "tuned" light is on a few times. All looks well, there are just no channels afterwards... what do i do? lsusb&dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1482225/
[11:57] <shwouchk_> hilarious: yes
[11:57] <shwouchk_> hilarious: both terminals are in control
[11:58] <hilarious> oh ok
[11:58] <hilarious> well i guess that could be cool, in some situation
[11:58] <hilarious> you could chat in a text editor
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:59] <Ironsight> Umm, just installed ubuntu 12.10 and I can't find "additional drivers"
[11:59] <Ironsight> as in, the app that installs the nvidia drivers
[12:00] <ThinkT510> Ironsight: they have been moved to a tab in software sources
[12:00] <Ironsight> ah, thanks
[12:00] <joey8> .
[12:01] <angs> is there any good usb sniffer for ubuntu?
[12:04] <BluesKaj> angs, run lsusb in the terminal to see if your device is listed
[12:05] <angs> blueskaj, I am more interested in to see the transferred data on the usb port
[12:05] <jackbrown> hi there could anyone explain me this please ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2323535&postcount=13
[12:05] <angs> do you know any good usb sniffing program that works on ubuntu?
[12:05] <BluesKaj> ah
[12:06] <ThinkT510> jackbrown: what needs explaining?
[12:07] <jackbrown> ThinkT510: I need to controll a GUI on a remote machine
[12:09] <ThinkT510> jackbrown: the whole gui or just one app?
[12:10] <sgtkilljoy> jackbrown: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[12:16] <disharmonic> hey guys, anyone know where Unity stores desktop wallpapers?
[12:16] <BluesKaj> angs, check out interceptty  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1579391
[12:17] <angs> BluesKaj, yhank you, I was reading the same link :)
[12:18] <BluesKaj> angs, ok :)
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> disharmonic  look /usr/share/backgrounds/
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> look in*
[12:26] <chhotu_> where can i find the list of pre-installed software in ubuntu 12.04
[12:28] <sara_ubuntu_girl> hello room
[12:29] <chhotu_> hello
[12:29] <chhotu_> where can i find the list of pre-installed software in ubuntu 12.04
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> chhotu_  what you can do: boot a live session, open a terminal and type dpkg -l|grep ii|awk '{print $2}' > ~/Documents/packages
[12:29] <sara_ubuntu_girl> Q: i had two ubuntu installations: 11.10 and 10.04 , somehow 10.04 is missing after i installed updates :( ... how can i get it back ... tired googling but no help
[12:30] <sara_ubuntu_girl> hi MonkeyDust can u guide me ?
[12:31] <sgtkilljoy> sara_ubuntu_girl: in terminal "sudo update-grub"
[12:31] <auronandace> sara_ubuntu_girl: sounds like a grub issue
[12:31] <sara_ubuntu_girl> sgtkilljoy auronandace bundle of thanks let me try it
[12:32] <BluesKaj> chhotu_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop , and google is your friend
[12:33] <mattronix> Hello all
[12:36] <disharmonic> MonkeyDust, thanks
[12:38] <channel_> Hello,
[12:38] <channel_> I need help with PHP and PHPEmail.  Please direct me to the right forum.
[12:40] <Abhijit> how to know which graphics card I have in 10.04?
[12:43] <Abhijit> help
[12:43]  * joey8 is playing OpenTTD
[12:44] <DJones> Abhijit: Type lspci in a terminal that will give you details of the hardware in your computer
[12:45] <DJones> Abhijit: You should see a line starting VGA compatible controller with details of your graphics card
[12:46] <Abhijit> DJones, i run it. but in 12.04 it shows full name i.e. intel atom in 10.04 it only shows intel device
[12:47] <blami> Abhijit: that's ok
[12:47] <DJones> Abhijit: Can you pastebin the info that lspci in 10.04 gives so we can have a look at the list
[12:47] <majnoon> !ot
[12:47] <channel_> Thanks
[12:49] <majnoon> i got that for ME :P
[12:50] <Abhijit> DJones, 00:02.0 vga compatible controller: intel corporation device 0be2 (rev 09) i can not copy paste full because its in another offline computer
[12:51] <DJones> Abhijit: ok, let me have a look
[12:51] <bekks> Abhijit: You could use an USB stick to transfer the output.
[12:52] <Abhijit> bekks, :-)
[12:54] <DJones> Abhijit: As far as I can see, that looks to be about as much detail on the model I can find
[12:54] <Abhijit> DJones, ok
[12:55] <Abhijit> DJones, which graphics driver should i install for it?
[12:55] <net-games> ola
[12:59] <memetic> Hello.  I have two nvidia 560 TI cards in my system, running Ubuntu 12.10, with three displays.  I've read that some folks get weird lock up issues.  I am having one of those issues, where I can't even ctrl+alt+f1 to get to the console.
[12:59] <bjensen> Im trying to pick a rack server from dell…R320, R420 or so..but I don't know if I can use software raid on the embedded data controller they have?
[12:59] <memetic> I experience this issue when using nvidia's binary drivers (current, 310, 304) and noveau.
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> bjensen  #ubuntu-server
[13:00] <bjensen> thanks
[13:00] <memetic> I'm not sure how to determine if this is a driver issue or not.  Has anyone else experienced similar problems with nvidia cards, particularly the 560 ti cards?
[13:04] <Ycarene> How often does scott ritchie come in here?
[13:04] <bekks> Never heard of him.
[13:04] <Ycarene> Yokozar
[13:10] <shwouchk_> Hello
[13:11] <idruta> hi
[13:11] <channel_> Hello,  I am practicing with PHP and have installed PHPemail to send mail from my webpage.  Can someone help me make it work or direct me to the appropriate channel?
[13:12] <shwouchk_> I have a laptop with an intel centrino 2230 N wifi card. I'm using ubuntu 12.10. I can connect fine to B/G networks, but I don't even see N networks. How can I enable the N functionality of my card?
[13:12] <whimneil> I am facing a problem with my Ubuntu 10.04. The problem is when I boot into my system, it says “cannot open password database” and restarts automatically.
[13:13] <t4nk680> can someone help me upgrade from ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 i tried everything and its just not working im really stuck
[13:13] <Aurauxis> t3nk680: Please tell us more.
[13:13] <bekks> t4nk680: "not working" is pretty generic.
[13:13] <bekks> !details | t4nk680
[13:14] <whimneil> Can anyone help me
[13:14] <whimneil> cannot open password database and the system reboots
[13:14] <bekks> whimneil: So what did you do before?
[13:14] <t4nk680> well the output i got was failed to fetch
[13:15] <bekks> t4nk680: Please provide the full details as being asked.
[13:15] <whimneil> bekks: I didnt do anything, I guess the /etc has gone bad
[13:15] <whimneil> bekks: now I dont know how to repair it
[13:15] <t4nk680> what more do you want it failed to fetch
[13:15] <bekks> whimneil: Then you have to get your backup and restore it.
[13:15] <whimneil> how?
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> whimneil  for a start, what's the output of lsb_release -sd
[13:15] <t4nk680> i mean in th update manager
[13:16] <bekks> t4nk680: "failed to fetch" when doing what exactly? We have NO clue what you did.
[13:16] <bekks> MonkeyDust: He cant even log in anymore.
[13:16] <whimneil> MonkeyDust I didnt get what you want me to check?
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> whimneil  nvm, misread, my mistake
[13:17] <whimneil> ok
[13:17] <t4nk680> it failed to fetch when i after the update manager gets to getting to packages
[13:19] <guest-A4wemF> I can't login in to ubuntu 12.10 ... only can log on to guest session..
[13:19] <whimneil> is there any way to reset the root password so that I can login?
[13:19] <Aurauxis> whimneil: try recovery options for Ubuntu.
[13:20] <whimneil> I tried that
[13:20] <whimneil> Aurauxis i tried that but its still the same, any thing different that I should try in the recovery options?
[13:20] <guest-A4wemF> can anyone help me out
[13:20] <Aurauxis> whimneil: drop to root prompt
[13:21] <Aurauxis> You can change your passwd there.
[13:21] <mvt007geek> eb i installed wine and installed emu8086.but i don't know how use emu8086 after i closed emu8086 window?should i setup emu8086 every time i closed emu8086?
[13:21] <whimneil> aurauxis you mean the CUI mode?
[13:21] <lewis1711> does anyone know of a raster editor that has annotations? preferably something simple :)
[13:22] <guest-A4wemF> I can't login in to 12.10 .... when I try redirects to login session again .. only can use guest session please help
[13:22] <Aurauxis> whimneil: Yeah...
[13:22] <whimneil> aurauxis how can I get to the CUI mode before getting the login screen
[13:23] <Aurauxis> whimneil: grub menu
[13:23] <Aurauxis> Does it appear during boot?
[13:23] <whimneil> no
[13:24] <ThinkT510> !text | whimneil
[13:24] <Aurauxis> Boot while holding the shift key, I think.
[13:24] <whimneil> okay
[13:24] <Aurauxis> whimneil: Are you familiar with the "passwd" function?
[13:25] <whimneil> no
[13:25] <whimneil> But I guess that is to reset the password
[13:25] <Aurauxis> Yes
[13:25] <Aurauxis> Just type: passwd <<username>>
[13:25] <whimneil> where and how can I use that ?
[13:25] <whimneil> at the CUI?
[13:25] <Aurauxis> Yes.
[13:26] <whimneil> Okay I will try that
[13:28] <t4nk680> so theres no way to upgrade ubuntu 10.10?
[13:28] <whimneil> Also I want to know how can I repair /etc
[13:28] <Aurauxis> whimneil: That would be beyond my scope.
[13:28] <whimneil> okay
[13:28] <Aurauxis> whimneil: But are you certain something is wrong there in the first place o.O
[13:28] <whimneil> what does that mean?
[13:28] <Aurauxis> whimneil: What makes you think /etc has gone bad?
[13:28] <whimneil> because the /etc directory has the password file in it that is why I think that may be corrupt
[13:29] <Aurauxis> whimneil: Things don't just happen...
[13:30] <Aurauxis> Well, try passwd and see how it goes.
[13:30] <whimneil> sure
[13:30] <whimneil> I will try that and will get back in case I have any more issues
[13:30] <whimneil> thanx everyone n esp Aurauxis
[13:30] <Aurauxis> whimeil: Any time :D
[13:31] <whimneil> cheers
[13:31] <whimneil> cya
[13:31] <Aurauxis> whimeil: Farewell.
[13:31] <Catbuntu> Ubuntu 12.10 with Unity crashed.
[13:32] <Catbuntu> I had a Flash video on background, opened the Dash and it just was ultra laggy and unresponsive.
[13:32] <Catbuntu> I had to go to CTRL ALT F1 and type unity --replace :_
[13:32] <Catbuntu> Is that normal or what?
[13:32] <ThinkT510> Catbuntu: it is certainly normal for flash to get buggy
[13:33] <Aurauxis> Catbuntu: Expect things to happen with Flash every now and then.
[13:33] <never2far> how can i get /tmp cleaned without rebooting or using rm -rf /tmp/*
[13:33] <Catbuntu> Oh OK.
[13:33] <ThinkT510> never2far: thats rather limiting your options
[13:33] <Catbuntu> Then it'd be better to download the music.
[13:34] <Catbuntu> It's Tchaykovski or however it's spelled, don't worry :P
[13:34] <Catbuntu> brb
[13:34] <Aurauxis> never2far: Linux is generally quite good with managing its own housekeeping.
[13:35] <Aurauxis> never2far: You could make a launcher with the said command on your desktop.
[13:35] <never2far> yeah ...and it deletes files if my pc get rebooted ...but if i'm not restarting they are kept there
[13:35] <ThinkT510> never2far: not wise to delete everything in temp unless you know for certain the files aren't in use
[13:36] <Aurauxis> ThinkT510: Good point...
[13:36] <never2far> ThinkT510, i saw there is a upstart script in /etc/init/mounted-tmp.conf do you know if I can use it to clean /tmp ?
[13:36] <xpertyz> hi
[13:36] <never2far> ThinkT510, this is why i didn't wanted to use rm /tmp
[13:36] <ThinkT510> never2far: i've never needed to clean tmp sorry, so i don't know
[13:38] <Aurauxis> never2far: Try this http://shuffleos.com/1071/system-clean-ubuntu-linux-apps-temporary-files/
[13:39] <discovered> hi
[13:39] <discovered> Anyone uses Kate?
[13:39] <ThinkT510> discovered: i'm sure plenty of kde users do
[13:41] <discovered> ThinkT510, I am having an small problem that the KATE Indentation always going to normal if am even configuring it to be aligned Indentation automatically.
[13:47] <gagga> ciao
[13:47] <gagga> !list
[13:54] <tobiasBora> Hello !
[13:54] <Aurauxis> tobiasBora: Ello.
[13:55] <tobiasBora> I'd like to know if there is a way to see all applications which send sound to speaker EVEN IF THE PROGRAM DOESN'T USE PULSEAUDIO.
[13:55] <guest-VJF2MO> I have some trouble .. i can't login in to the my account on 12.10 ... only guest session is working ...
[13:55] <guest-VJF2MO> what can I do
[13:55] <guest-VJF2MO> please help
[13:55] <guest-VJF2MO> is there anyway way to fix this?
[13:56] <Aurauxis> guest-VJF2MO: Have you forgotten your password?
[13:56] <tobiasBora> Indeed, I've a mic redirection (from the mic to speaker), and I can't find how disable it, because it doesn't appear in pulsecontrol.
[13:56] <kapz> Hello! I am using ubuntu 12.04 64 bit and my concern is that Firefox 17.0.1 says that it has disabled the outdated version of Java, how do I correct this?
[13:56] <ThinkT510> guest-VJF2MO: if guest is working then that implies there is a settings issue, have you been messing with unity/compiz settings?
[13:57] <guest-VJF2MO> no ... when I am trying login in wit redirect to greeter it self
[13:57] <guest-VJF2MO> I donno what went wrong... I can login in through the ctrl+f1 window
[13:57] <Aurauxis> guest-VJF2MO: LightDM?
[13:58] <guest-VJF2MO> I guess it is lightDM
[13:58] <tobiasBora> kapz: did you update java ?
[13:58] <ztgu>  I have problem with suspend to RAM on my laptop. My screen stays black after resume from suspend to ram. Any idea how to fix the problem?
[13:58] <kapz> tobiasBora, i did install openjdk7, if that's what you mean...
[13:59] <guest-VJF2MO> is there anyway to recover from it?
[13:59] <guest-VJF2MO> can I restore or repair ubuntu ??
[14:00] <Aurauxis> guest-VJF2MO: Have you tried manually restarting the xserver?
[14:00] <guest-VJF2MO> I have removed nvidia-current drivers... i thought it was the problem... but it didn't solve problem...
[14:00] <guest-VJF2MO> I donno??
[14:00] <ThinkT510> guest-VJF2MO: reset your unity/compiz settings back to default
[14:01] <guest-VJF2MO> how can I set it to default back??
[14:01] <ThinkT510> guest-VJF2MO: if the guest session works but your user does not then it isn't a graphics problem, its a settings problem
[14:01] <blackline> Plz help. I have two internal hdd's which of one is for system (ssd), the other for storage. I've read multiple guides without success. My issue is that now the "other" disc gets mounted as /media/Storage which from what I understand does not happend at boot. I would like the other drive to mount at boot. I suppose this is done in fstab. I would really appreciate your help.
[14:01] <Judstin> If ur unsure just remove compiz
[14:01] <tobiasBora> kapz: and what about sun-java7-plugin ?
[14:02] <Aurauxis> Judstin: That would be bad.
[14:02] <Harlin> blackline, just a sec
[14:02] <guest-VJF2MO> can I revert back to normal settings??
[14:02] <Harlin> blackline, is this ntfs ?
[14:02] <ThinkT510> guest-VJF2MO: login via ctrl-alt-f1 and delete the .compiz directory in your home folder, then  logout and log back in via the gui
[14:02] <kapz> tobiasBora, "E: Unable to locate package sun-java7-plugin"
[14:02] <Judstin> Not that bad
[14:02] <guest-VJF2MO> ThinkT510 letme check it ouy
[14:02] <guest-VJF2MO> out*
[14:03] <tobiasBora> kapz: maybe icedtea-7-plugin
[14:03] <Dice-Man> blackline: you have to edit your /etc/fstab file
[14:04] <Harlin> blackline, you probably don't know what your proper device name is for it.
[14:04] <blackline> Harlin - No, it should be ext4
[14:04] <Harlin> do a df -kh ? that should reveal it
[14:04] <Harlin> blackline, ok? that should be easy then.
[14:04] <guest-VJF2MO> ThinkT510 i can't remove it ... i am getting an error .compiz is not empty
[14:04] <blackline> Harlin - Do you want that "codish" name for the drive?
[14:04] <Harlin> blackline, yes
[14:04] <tobiasBora> guest-VJF2MO: and what about moving ?
[14:04] <Harlin> /dev/something
[14:05] <Dice-Man> blackline: sudo fdisk -l
[14:05] <Harlin> there ya go
[14:05] <Harlin> /dev/sd[a-z]
[14:05] <Aurauxis> guest-VJF2MO: Try this: sudo service gdm stop
[14:05] <Harlin> /dev/sd[a-z][0-9]
[14:05] <Dice-Man> Harlin: or sudo blkid
[14:05] <Harlin> or hd if you have some ancient hardware
[14:05] <Aurauxis> Then, sudo rm .compiz
[14:06] <blackline> Harlin /dev/sdb
[14:06] <Harlin> hah hah ide, ancient ? amazing
[14:06] <Topol> Hello I am having dual boot trouble.. I have installed Ubuntu but as soon as I click it on the statup menu it gives me an error and says its missing. Is there any way I can remove Ubuntu? I am Running Windows 8
[14:06] <blackline> thought you ment the even longer name
[14:06] <Harlin> ok sorry blackline there should be a number for the partition
[14:06] <Aurauxis> guest-VJF2MO: Then, startx
[14:06] <Harlin> like /dev/sdb1 or something
[14:06] <Harlin> sdb2
[14:06] <blackline> Harlin - UUID="2d156a04-b5bf-41bf-b76b-43926bbc6d15"
[14:06] <Harlin> your line in fstab once you find it should be like:
[14:07] <blackline> It's ext4
[14:07] <Aurauxis> Topol: please, tells us more details about the error.
[14:07] <guest-VJF2MO> Aurauxis UNKNOW INSTANCE
[14:07] <Harlin> /dev/sd1  /path/to/mount  ext4  defaults  1 2
[14:07] <guest-VJF2MO> lemme relogin
[14:07] <Topol> Aurauxis: Can I pm?
[14:07] <guest-VJF2MO> c ya
[14:07] <Harlin> blackline, yeah not the UUID number ;-)
[14:07] <blackline> so sd1 it is?
[14:07] <Aurauxis> guest-VJF2MO: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[14:07] <Harlin> make that entry in your /etc/fstab and restart ? or ?. unmount and do a: mount -a
[14:08] <Harlin> blackline, you have to make sure the number is correct
[14:08] <ThinkT510> Aurauxis: he is using lightdm, not gdm
[14:08] <Harlin> when it's mounted, do a fdisk -l or df -kh
[14:08] <Aurauxis> ThinkT510: Crap...
[14:08] <sacarlson> Topol:  the sequence that caused the problem might help.  like did you install windows after ubuntu?
[14:08] <Harlin> blackline, do you already have data on this partition?
[14:08] <Harlin> if not, you might not even have it formatted yet.
[14:09] <blackline> Harlin - Yes, it's stuffed with data.
[14:09] <Harlin> ok then find the number for it
[14:09] <blackline> Harlin - But that could be changed if needed. I have backup
[14:09] <Harlin> is it mounted now?
[14:09] <kapz> thanks tobiasBora :) I found the icedtea-7 plugin. But java is not verified at java.com and Firefox doesn'ty know about that plugin
[14:09] <Harlin> no let's not destroy if we don't need to ;-)
[14:09] <Aurauxis> Topol: Sure.
[14:09] <blackline> Harlin Yes, auto from before
[14:10] <Harlin> ok give me the line from df -kh where it shows the disk mounted
[14:10] <blackline> Harlin - /dev/sdb1                917G   58G  813G   7% /media/marcus/Storage
[14:10] <tobiasBora> kapz: do you have the exact error ?
[14:10] <Harlin> ahh cool
[14:10] <tobiasBora> kapz: and did you try this : http://java.com/en/download/help/enable_browser.xml
[14:11] <ixio> hi, I am running 12.04 in a VM.. I have added a new HDD (while its powered on) how do I do the equiviliant of a windows "rescan" for new hardware/HDD's and inititate, format and use this disk?
[14:11] <Harlin> which directory do you want to mount it to blackline ?
[14:11] <Harlin> ixio, look up fdisk
[14:11] <blackline> Harlin - this is the thing. My "feeling" is that this folder it uses now "feels" kind of temporary.
[14:11] <Harlin> so which directory would make you feel good?
[14:11] <blackline> Harlin - I would like it to seem clean, this is a permanent drive
[14:11] <Harlin> ;-0
[14:11] <Harlin> ;-)
[14:11] <blackline> Harlin - haha
[14:12] <Harlin> well with Linux (unlike Windows), all partitions have a mount point
[14:12] <Harlin> and you *do* want it to have its own mount point
[14:12] <Harlin> mine on my Linux laptop is something like /mnt/share
[14:12] <Harlin> that makes me feel happy :-)
[14:12] <blackline> Harlin - is /mnt/Storage possible? What would be the logical in compare to my already existing disk?
[14:13] <kapz> tobiasBora, on verifying the java version on the official website, I don't get any error but the applet is never finished verifying and oracle states that it means there is problem with installation or java is not installed.
[14:13] <Harlin> well, to make it extensible, you can do /mnt/storage1 ;-)
[14:13] <Harlin> in case you add external drives and such
[14:13] <Harlin> later
[14:13] <Harlin> ok so let's do this...
[14:13] <Harlin> add this entry in /etc/fstab
[14:13] <blackline> Harlin Sounds nice.
[14:13] <blackline> We will go with storage1
[14:13] <Harlin> /dev/sdb1  /mnt/storage1  ext4 defaults 1 2
[14:14] <Harlin> save it.
[14:14] <blackline> or Storage1 if it's case sensitive ;)
[14:14] <Harlin> do this though...
[14:14] <Harlin> umount /media/marcus/Storage
[14:14] <Harlin> after you add the entry
[14:14] <Harlin> let me know when youve got that far.
[14:14] <ixio> Harlin: fdisk doesnt see /dev/sdb yet..
[14:15] <tobiasBora> kapz: did you try this test : http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
[14:15] <Harlin> ixio, hmmm, maybe your issue is at the hardware level
[14:15] <kapz> tobiasBora, on Firefox plugincheck web page it states that Icedted-web plugin is unknown plugin
[14:15] <Harlin> ixio, what kind of drive is it?
[14:15] <blackline> Harlin - Should I add a label?
[14:15] <ixio> Harlin: its a virtual HDD
[14:15] <Harlin> blackline, i dont usually do that but I don't see why not if it makes you feel even better :-D
[14:16] <Harlin> ixio, hmm what is a virtual hard drive ? ;-)
[14:16] <Harlin> hard usually means "hard"
[14:16] <tobiasBora> kapz: and what is the exact error of firefox
[14:16] <kapz> tobiasBora, I tried the test, and the applet is loaded however it states that an update is available!
[14:16] <Harlin> ixio, sorry i should ask, what did you do to set it up initially?
[14:16] <tobiasBora> kapz: me too I've this message.
[14:17] <nebeneffekt> is there a possibility in ubuntu to add a cpu-temperatur-gauge to the panel?
[14:17] <kapz> thanks a ton tobiasBora, atleat I now know that java plugin is working. Neat!
[14:18] <ixio> Harlin: its a virtual machine, therefore it has virtual HDD's.. I have added a new HDD while the server is "powered on" and I need to make ubuntu aware of this fact
[14:18] <ixio> I just dont know how
[14:18] <Harlin> oh
[14:18] <Harlin> ixio, should be the same way? is this vmware or virtual box?
[14:18] <ixio> KVM
[14:18] <tobiasBora> kapz: You're welcome ^^ for exemple, does this applet works ?
[14:18] <ixio> in windows you go to disk manager and "rescan" - I need the ubuntu equivilant
[14:19] <Harlin> ixio, you probably want to go to #kvm or #rhel for the gurus
[14:19] <Harlin> ixio, in the past, ive not had much help here for kvm (no offense ubunters)
[14:19] <ixio> it doesnt really matter what hypervisor I am using.. infact pretend its a physcial box and I have added a hotplug SATA disk
[14:20] <Harlin> yeah it does actually ixio
[14:20] <ixio> how would I scan for this new disk
[14:20] <kapz> tobiasBora, if it passed the java test then I think it does work. You have any website in mind to check?
[14:20] <Harlin> ixio, you could probably use something like qparted
[14:20] <ixio> yeh in the gui I could do it.. I just dunno how to do it from ssh
[14:20] <Harlin> but if fdisk isn't finding it, its possible that it's misconfigured slightly at the hypervisor level unfortunately
[14:21] <tobiasBora> kapz: oh sorry I forgot the link : http://www.walter-fendt.de/ph14f/collision_f.htm
[14:21] <kapz> I tried dell.com and the site behaves as it should now. Earlier it didn't respond to the filters.
[14:21] <Harlin> ixio, not sure in ubuntu from the cli either? in redhat there's a curses (cli) interface for it.
[14:21] <Harlin> ixio, just a sec?. let me have a look...
[14:22] <ixio_> oops IE crashed
[14:22] <Harlin> ixio, btw, you have a look at this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[14:22] <ixio_> #kvm
[14:22] <kapz> tobiasBora, yep the applet is working!
[14:23] <ixio_> thanks for the link Harlin
[14:23] <Harlin> sudo lshw -C disk
[14:23] <Harlin> and then later...
[14:23] <Harlin> sudo fdisk /dev/sd[a-z]
[14:23] <ixio_> yeh its not showing up in lshw.. hmm
[14:24] <tobiasBora> kapz: great !
[14:24] <Harlin> psa: eat lots of oily fish. it are good for you!
[14:25] <Harlin> more coffee...
[14:25] <kapz> cheers :) happy new year *well, a few hours in advance*
[14:27] <tobiasBora> So does anyone know how I could detect the programs which send sound to speakers ? Because I've a mic redirection to the speakers, and I can't find the origin of the redirection, because it doesn't appear at all in pulseaudio. I tried to open qjacktl : the redirection is keep, and the others programs like amarok stop playing (it is normal because jack stop pulseaudio) : it shows that the program isn't linked to pulseaudio, but I
[14:27] <tobiasBora> don't know how find it. Any idéa ?
[14:29] <Quest> hello
[14:31] <Quest> any one here?
[14:35] <Harlin> Quest, yeah
[14:35] <Harlin> looks like 1599 are "here"
[14:35] <Quest> is there a free nice software by which I can record my screen + audio from mic and sound card and put it on youtube?
[14:35] <Harlin> hmm just a sec...
[14:35] <Quest> then 1597 of them are inactive
[14:36] <Quest> Harlin,  I need the same for windows to
[14:36] <Quest> too*
[14:36] <Harlin> heh heh tall order
[14:37] <Harlin> does RecordMyDesktop work in Windows too?
[14:37] <Harlin> hmm
[14:38] <Quest> Harlin, no
[14:40] <JRThump> Any ideas on better PDF viewers than Unity built-in "Document Viewer"? PDF with greyscale photos in adobe reader on windows appear like bad monochrome black and white raster images in document viewer...
[14:41] <Quest> Harlin,  Recordmydesktop for linux and camstudio for windows. found. thanks
[14:42] <tobiasBora> JRThump: I love Okular, but it is initialy for KDE.
[14:42] <Quest> Harlin,  and now we have  1594 are inactive. (progress)
[14:43] <JRThump> tobiasBora: Thanks, will check it out!
[14:47] <jpastore> hi, I received a beaglebone from a friend in another country and it's running ubuntu. I'm having some problems updating it. I'm actually trying to get the wifi working so it will connect to my phone as a hotspot to get the right time for logging
[14:48] <jpastore> the apt-get is failing to update it fails parsing a lpackage list
[14:48] <kart__> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: ERROR: invalid checksum (0x3beb != 0x38f3).                                           When trying to mount exfat on ubuntu 12.04 and 10.04
[14:48] <jpastore> I've gone through steps and guides on purging the list...but I'm still encountering the problem
[14:51] <Guest42430> hi
[14:51] <kart__> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: ERROR: invalid checksum (0x3beb != 0x38f3).
[14:54] <dctrd> If I run ubuntu on vm
[14:54] <dctrd> Will it be fast enough ?
[14:54] <kart__> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: ERROR: invalid checksum (0x3beb != 0x38f3).     Any help would be greatly appreciated??
[14:54] <dctrd> Or I have to install ?
[14:55] <ThinkT510> dctrd: depends what is fast enough for you
[14:55] <guest-bCMO1w> I am running ubuntu 12.10... I can't  login in to my account .... guest session is working fine... so I created new user from terminal by adduser commant... I am still not able to login in with the newly created useraccount.. same problem as before ... anyone can help me out of it :(
[14:55] <johnny> Just don't lag
[14:55] <johnny> That's what I want
[14:56] <ThinkT510> !nickspam | johnny010
[14:56] <ThinkT510> johnny010: try it in a vm and find out
[14:57] <guest-bCMO1w> ThinkT510 it is not working.. still can't able to login... only guest session is working even I created new user account it also have same problem :(
[14:57] <ThinkT510> guest-bCMO1w: sorry i can't help
[14:57] <guest-bCMO1w> whether I want to reinstall ubuntu :(??
[14:57] <jpastore> can anyone help with my beaglebone running 12.04? trying to apt-get update, failing to parse package file during update.
[14:58] <guest-bCMO1w> I lost all the work setup :( ...
[14:58] <kart__> @guest - bCM01w  Ctrl+Alt+F1, log into the console, and have a look at ~/.xsession-errors for information why it is not allowing you to log in.
[14:58] <johnny010> ThinkT510
[14:59] <johnny010> AMD have you tried it ?
[14:59] <ThinkT510> johnny010: amd what? my revo has an amd processor and graphics which work well
[15:00] <johnny010> And** sorry
[15:00] <ThinkT510> johnny010: yes, i use vms regularly
 For what do u want to use ubuntu for ?
[15:01] <guest-bCMO1w> kart_ how can I open .xsession-error ?
[15:02] <johnny010> Btw my pc specs are 8gb ram,i7 3.4ghz 3rd generation.2gb video card 1 tb storage....would they be enough ?
[15:02] <johnny010> I think the ram isn't enough
[15:02] <redhandbr> lol
[15:02] <ThinkT510> johnny010: its plenty
[15:03] <johnny010> Ok and can I run it full screen
[15:03] <johnny010> Full full screen
[15:03] <johnny010> Not half of it
[15:03] <guest-bCMO1w> I am getting /user/sbin/lightdm-session: 24: export: bad varriable name @ kart__
[15:03] <ThinkT510> johnny010: virtualbox has a seamless mode you could try
[15:04] <johnny010> What's that ?
[15:04] <guest-bCMO1w> how can I read contents of ~/.xsession-errors
[15:04] <redhandbr> seamless mode let you manage vm's windows on host OS.
[15:05] <ThinkT510> guest-bCMO1w: with a text editor
[15:05] <guest-bCMO1w> I am getting error while I am using cat
[15:05] <johnny010> Why I'm not trying is because I'm in bed....tired as hell and not bothered to turn the pc on
[15:05] <redhandbr> guest-bCMO1w, open terminal and type: gedit ~/.xsession-errors
[15:05] <johnny010> redhandbr sorry ?
[15:06] <ThinkT510> johnny010: then come back when you've had some sleep
[15:06] <nashant> Hi guys. How do I check the results of the boot up disk check
[15:06] <johnny010> Ok good idea
[15:06] <johnny010> Bye tc
[15:06] <redhandbr> johnny010, look this http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/virtualboxs-seamless-mode-combine-operating-systems-desktop/
[15:06] <guest-bCMO1w> ThinkT510, redhandbr  I am running it from ctrl+alt+f1
[15:07] <guest-bCMO1w> I cant open the editor there?
[15:07] <ThinkT510> guest-bCMO1w: use nano
[15:07] <redhandbr> guest-bCMO1w, so... use nano text editor.
[15:07] <guest-bCMO1w> whether I wanna install it?
[15:07] <redhandbr> guest-bCMO1w, nano already comes with ubuntu.
[15:07] <ThinkT510> guest-bCMO1w: nano is installed by default
[15:08] <redhandbr> ps: I love nano.
[15:09] <nashant> Hi guys. How do I check the results of the boot up disk check
[15:11] <Anteli> hello
[15:11] <ixio_> is there a cp equivilant which gives feedback ?
[15:11] <ixio_> progress etc
[15:11] <RELOL> hi
[15:12] <kart__> GUy any help with this error " Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: ERROR: invalid checksum (0x3beb != 0x38f3). "  On trying to mount exfat partition which I was able to access before ??
[15:12] <RELOL> i have problems with audio hdmi
[15:12] <Kraupu> Hello everyone, in this chat I can ask any stupid question about linux ?
[15:12] <ixio_> Kraupu: thats the idea
[15:12] <RELOL> it doesn't work an videos play x3 speed
[15:12] <cfhowlett> Kraupu: why, yes it is!  ask.
[15:12] <Anteli> I'm new to linux. I have hp pavilion dv6 3090eo with windows8 and i would like to get ubuntu 12.04 instead of windows8. Is there a way to do that?
[15:12] <redhandbr> Anteli, sure.
[15:13] <cfhowlett> Anteli: yes.  just install ubuntu 12.04 or even dual boot so you have both.
[15:13] <ixio_> Anteli: look at wubi
[15:13] <Kraupu> ok, im usin ubuntu only 2 days, all my life I was on windows :)
[15:13] <ixio_> Anteli: google "wubi" this is the easiest way to test Ubuntu without removing your Windows install
[15:13] <kart__> error mounting exfat on ubuntu
[15:13] <redhandbr> Kraupu, congrats :)
[15:14] <mtx> i need to learn apache etc for work so was thinking of changing my windows home fileserver to ubuntu, can i easiliy create a software raid 5 array for some of my files from say 3 x 2tb drives?
[15:14] <Anteli> I have tried wubi, but i had problems with it. i think problems caused because of secure boot "feature"
[15:14] <redhandbr> Secure Boot... Urgh.
[15:14] <cfhowlett> Anteli: virtualbox is another option
[15:14] <ixio_> mtx.. do you only have 3 disks in that server?
[15:15] <RELOL> I have an ATI Mobility Radeon
[15:15] <mtx> i have other drives too ixio_
[15:15] <redhandbr> Anteli, go to bios setup and disable Secure Boot, so you can boot to windows 8 or Ubuntu normally.
[15:16] <mtx> 128gb ssd plus a few 2tb drives
[15:16] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Happy New Year!
[15:16] <Anteli> ok, thanks i'll try that
[15:16] <redhandbr> Emmanuel_Chanel, yay!
[15:16] <ixio_> mtx: you will need to boot your OS from a non software RAID disk/array etc.. but once you have the OS loaded you can of course create a software RAID array using Ubuntu and run apache etc
[15:16] <Kraupu> Ok, so first question, I have anothr pc, he has Linux ubuntu, I want to give that pc to my mother but first I want installl windows xp , but when im trying to xp, thes setup cant found Hard drive
[15:16] <nyjkkyjn> I'd like to have optimised ATLAS libraries.. but the official packages aren't optimised, so I need to compile it.. Is there a way to build a deb package, so that I don't have to compile all the software dependant on it
[15:16] <redhandbr> Anteli, good luck!
[15:17] <Kraupu> i think I need fix MBR
[15:17] <shwouchk_> I have a laptop with an intel centrino 2230 N wifi card. I'm using ubuntu 12.10. I can connect fine to B/G networks, but I don't even see N networks. How can I enable the N functionality of my card?
[15:17] <Kraupu> or smth
[15:17] <ixio_> thats an XP problem not a linux problem tho
[15:17] <bekks> Kraupu: No. You need an XP installation medium with at least SP3 for enabling the detection of SATA controllers as installation target. Not an Ubuntu issue, in addition.
[15:18] <Kraupu> so I need win xp winh SP3 yes ?
[15:18] <ixio_> or pres f6 I think it was during install to load additoinal drivers
[15:18] <kart__> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: ERROR: invalid checksum (0x3beb != 0x38f3). Any one???
[15:18] <mtx> thanks, I plan to boot from the SSD and have the software raid array for films and other drives for other files. I guess I'd share with samba? Can i allow different accounts different access levels?
[15:19] <redhandbr> ls
[15:19] <redhandbr> ops. sorry.
[15:19] <ixio_> mtx: I would consider things like unraid over ubuntu to act as a file server
[15:19] <guest-bCMO1w> can I give administrative privilage to guest session .. so that I can recover my file before formating...?
[15:19] <ixio_> mtx: but to answer your question, yes you can
[15:20] <nashant> is there any reason that my kern.log would be 12GB
[15:20] <redhandbr> guest-bCMO1w, it's easier boot with a pendrive and make your backup.
[15:20] <nashant> and my syslog
[15:21] <frane> /home/frane/Scrivania/buduscript/install.sh
[15:24] <t432> when i had installed ubuntu desktop taskbar on the left used to disappear when you moved the cursor away and would reappear once you moves cursor to the left.  For some reason this no longer happens, its always there.
[15:24] <t432> anyone know how to solve this?
[15:25] <guest-bCMO1w> here is the xsession-errors http://pastie.org/5602476   can't login to acount have a look
[15:25] <supering> Ciao
[15:25] <supering> !list
[15:28] <nebeneffekt> am I right here: buffered memory is the memory which is used right now by applications, amount of data which is continously written to the memmory(ram). cahed memmory, is certain amount of data which is stored in the memory in order to be faster avaiable when cpu wants to read it?
[15:28] <p0rk> How do I update resolv.conf correctly?
[15:33] <ThinkT510> !resolvconf | p0rk
[15:33] <frane> /home/frane/Scrivania/buduscript/install.sh
[15:34] <Kraupu> Happy New YearS ?
[15:34] <frane> /home/frane/Scrivania/buduscript/install.sh
[15:34] <Catbuntu> gnome-panel has support to GTK3?
[15:34] <ThinkT510> frane: do you have a question?
[15:34] <Catbuntu> Or is it purely GTK2?
[15:35] <ThinkT510> Catbuntu: if you are referring to gnome-panel in gnome3 fallback then that supports gtk3
[15:35] <frane> /home/frane/Scrivania/buduscript/install.sh
[15:36] <frane> load .xchat2/budus.so
[15:36] <majnoon> !ot
[15:37] <bhavesh> I was following this guide http://forum.sa-mp.com/showthread.php?t=243793 on Ubuntu 12.04 server but when I ran ./configure it says Checking for OpenSSL... configure: Cannot find OpenSSL's libcrypto
[15:37] <bhavesh> what should I do?
[15:39] <CorruptionEX> Hello?
[15:39] <frane> ciao
[15:39] <frane> !list
[15:39] <nearst> hi ppl. :)
[15:39] <CorruptionEX> I have a question about Ubuntu and E17, Enlightenment
[15:40] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: ask away
[15:40] <CorruptionEX> Anyone know of the Enlightenment shell?
[15:40] <CorruptionEX> Hey, I have windows, but I want to run E17
[15:40] <CorruptionEX> E17, and most other releases, are for linix
[15:40] <CorruptionEX> If I install Wubi, can I run E17
[15:41] <k1l> CorruptionEX: just ask your question
[15:41] <CorruptionEX> I did
[15:41] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: yes, but i'd avoid wubi
[15:41] <CorruptionEX> Can I run E17 with Wubi
[15:41] <k1l> CorruptionEX: you should consider a real install and not using wubi
[15:41] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: why not install linux?
[15:41] <CorruptionEX> I want to stay windows
[15:41] <k1l> CorruptionEX: you can dualboot it
[15:42] <k1l> !dualboot | CorruptionEX
[15:42] <CorruptionEX> How would I go about doing that
[15:42] <CorruptionEX> oh
[15:42] <CorruptionEX> Alright, Lemme look at that page...
[15:42] <CorruptionEX> brb
[15:42] <bhavesh> Is that a PHP bug?
[15:43] <k1l> CorruptionEX: and you can run whatever DesktopEnviroment is in the repositories, which are alot. and e17 is in it
[15:43] <CorruptionEX> ?
[15:43] <CorruptionEX> repositories?
[15:43] <ThinkT510> !software | CorruptionEX
[15:44] <k1l> CorruptionEX: ubuntu holds alot of software and programs sorted out for your ubuntu version in their repositories. so its a easy and safe install
[15:44] <CorruptionEX> Ok, so if I were to install UB, I can simply select the E17 installer?
[15:45] <k1l> CorruptionEX: you can select the e17-package and it will it install it. yes
[15:45] <CorruptionEX> Ok
[15:45] <CorruptionEX> Now
[15:45] <CorruptionEX> What is Wubi?
[15:45] <CorruptionEX> Is it UB for windows?
[15:46] <bhavesh> !wubi | CorruptionEX
[15:46] <CorruptionEX> Since I will need UB, I want to get it, but keep windows
[15:46] <CorruptionEX> Ok
[15:46] <k1l> no, it installs ubuntu inside windows instead in own partitions. so if windows fails, ubuntu fails too. so that is not a good choice
[15:46] <k1l> its just ment for testing purposes.
[15:46] <CorruptionEX> So, I install Wubi, and find the e17 package, and it will install it
[15:47] <CorruptionEX> correct?
[15:47] <Zhaboo> hi, is there any way to add (un-)compress context (right-click) menu(s) to the file/open dialogs in mint/ubuntu?
[15:47] <k1l> CorruptionEX: go with dualboot. install ubuntu into own partitions on your harddisk
[15:47] <Davidowski> can someone tell me why ubuntu frozes after I boot him from usb https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25404973/IMG_20121231_154120.jpg
[15:47] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: seriously, a vm would be better than using wubi
[15:47] <CorruptionEX> I wont be using UB very much by iteself, I just want E17.
[15:47] <CorruptionEX> vm?
[15:48] <k1l> CorruptionEX: and with grub2 you can choose on every boot if you want to start ubunut or windows
[15:48] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: a virtual machine
[15:48] <Zhaboo> (I am using both mint and ubuntu on different computers and virtual machines, would also like to know which part of the system this feature actually comes from, if it is provided by ubuntu or need to be separate solutions)
[15:48] <CorruptionEX> Sorry, Im not very familiar with abreivations
[15:48] <k1l> CorruptionEX: why do you want e17 when you wont use it? o_O
[15:49] <CorruptionEX> I want tot use E17, but They only have installs for Linix
[15:49] <ThinkT510> k1l: i think its the ooh shiney factor
[15:49] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: a vm is a great testing ground
[15:50] <CorruptionEX> No, I want to use 17, but they only have installs for Linix
[15:50] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: you can mess anything up, its safe to use a vm
[15:50] <k1l> CorruptionEX: step away from wubi. you get no advantage to a dualboot install but all the disadvanteges
[15:50] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: try ubuntu in virtualbox
[15:50] <CorruptionEX> ok, no wubi, got that much
[15:51] <k1l> !dualboot | CorruptionEX go with that
[15:51] <bibi23> each time I put an HDMI cable from my laptop to a TV the screen displaying works but I have to restart the computer so that the sound output from the TV gets detected and I can switch to it, is there a more simple way to "refresh" sound outputs?
[15:51] <CorruptionEX> with what? the duelboot link?
[15:51] <k1l> yes
[15:52] <Davidowski> can someone tell me why ubuntu frozes after I boot him from usb https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25404973/IMG_20121231_154120.jpg
[15:53] <ThinkT510> !nomodeset | Davidowski
[15:53] <CorruptionEX> So. I am just making sure I have this all right....    Make a (small) partion just for Ubuntu, and install the full ubuntu there. Boot up UB, and find the e17 package, and install it.
[15:54] <Twisty> I'm trying to cut all but the last X number of lines from a log file in place. tail can't be used in place it seems, how else might I accomplish this?
[15:54] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: sure, but if you are not comfortable with partitioning try it in a vm first
[15:54] <CorruptionEX> How do I do that?
[15:54] <CorruptionEX> Can I keep it in a virtual machine?
[15:55] <k1l> CorruptionEX: yes, genereally. i wouldnt make it too small and a 3 partition setup would be better, but its ok if you want to test things
[15:55] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: download virtualbox
[15:55] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: you can do whatever you like with a vm
[15:55] <CorruptionEX> So after all this is done, how will startup be? Will it boot windows 8, or UB?
[15:56] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: if you do a vm you need to boot into windows and launch the vm from there
[15:56] <CorruptionEX> I want to ratain windows functionality, but use the E17 window manager
[15:56] <CorruptionEX> ok
[15:57] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: you won't be able to use enlightenment in windows
[15:57] <CorruptionEX> I mean running it through windows, through UB, through a vm
[15:57] <CorruptionEX> Thi is getting confusing o.O
[15:57] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: i don't think you understand
[15:58] <CorruptionEX> most likely not....
[15:58] <CorruptionEX> I have windows 8, I want E17
[15:58] <CorruptionEX> Thats all I came here with
[15:58] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: enlightenment is for linux, to use enlightenment you must use linux
[15:59] <CorruptionEX> But then I though, Ubuntu can run Linix stuff, and they have E17 for Ubuntu
[15:59] <CorruptionEX> *thought
[15:59] <Twisty> Ubuntu IS linux
[15:59] <CorruptionEX> Yes
[15:59] <rdw200169> Zhaboo: I've been a bit behind the power curve on new versions of Ubuntu; that said, i'm reasonably certain it still uses Nautilus as the File Manager (Mint probably does too) since it is the standard file manager for Gnome.  As such, what you're looking for is a Nautilus Extention. Examples: http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/cat-archiving.php
[15:59] <CorruptionEX> So, thats why I was thinking Wubi, So I can have windows AND Linix
[16:00] <CorruptionEX> but someone said to stay away from Wubi, and install UB
[16:00] <CorruptionEX> I mean, that was the goal
[16:00] <CorruptionEX> But I dont want UB totally, just for E17
[16:01] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: why?
[16:01] <nearst> happy new year!
[16:01] <SuGe2> happy new year
[16:01] <CorruptionEX> Why not use UB for everything?
[16:01] <CorruptionEX> Because I like windows
[16:01] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: why do you so badly want e17?
[16:01] <nearst> :)
[16:02] <CorruptionEX> Because.....well.......shiny....
[16:02] <CorruptionEX> lol
[16:02] <CorruptionEX> thats really the only reason
[16:02] <CorruptionEX> Why do you want cool flashy things?
[16:02] <nearst> CorruptionEX, try other distro. bodhi as well
[16:02] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: then live with the fact that you must be running linux to run e17
[16:02] <CorruptionEX> *sigh* yea, i was thinking that...........
[16:03] <CorruptionEX> I really want it though
[16:03] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: then use linux
[16:03] <CorruptionEX> And it just being possible bothers me
[16:03] <CorruptionEX> What's linix like
[16:03] <IdleOne> !ot | CorruptionEX
[16:03] <CorruptionEX> I mean, I saw pictures and have a general idea
[16:03] <bazhang> CorruptionEX, thats beyond the scope of this channel
[16:04] <ThinkT510> CorruptionEX: try it in a vm and see
[16:04] <nearst> ure big eyecandy dude
[16:04] <CorruptionEX> alright
[16:04] <CorruptionEX> thanks Think, sry for bothering you lol
[16:04] <CorruptionEX> Yes, I love Eye candy
[16:04] <bazhang> CorruptionEX, lets take the chit chat elsewhere
[16:04] <CorruptionEX> Eye candy is everything to me lol
[16:04] <CorruptionEX> yea, Im going
[16:05] <NickNamebu> с новым годом! :)
[16:05] <Topol> Russians itc
[16:05] <IdleOne> !ru
[16:06] <andrea_> how come that 12.10 does not offer VGA drivers support for old video cards? This is insane!!!
[16:06] <NickNamebu> thx!
[16:07] <bekks> andrea_: Depends on the age of the hardware. Latest kernel (3.8-rc1) does not offer support for i386 hardware. Thats the circle of life.
[16:08] <nearst> andrea_, what is your video cards ? lsmod | grep video
[16:09] <bekks> nearst: Which will most likely return nothing. "sudo lspci | grep VGA" is the better approach.
[16:10] <nearst> bekks, kk.. :D
[16:10] <bekks> andrea_: So which graphics hardware do you have?
[16:11] <bhavesh> I just created a new user on my Ubuntu server, but when I log in as that user and run sudo apt-get update, I get sudo: must be setuid to root
[16:11] <bhavesh> it means I must add the username to some file ?
[16:11] <bekks> bhavesh: So whats the output of "lsb_release -sd"?
[16:11] <ThinkT510> bhavesh: did you put your new user in the sudo group?
[16:11] <bhavesh> bekks: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[16:11] <k1l> bhavesh: own server or hosted server?
[16:11] <bhavesh> ThinkT510: How do I do that?
[16:12] <bhavesh> k1l: hosted
[16:12] <ThinkT510> bhavesh: you'd need to do it from an account with sudo access
[16:13] <bhavesh> ThinkT510: I have access to root, ill follow this: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/quickly-add-users-to-groups-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ thank you everyone :)
[16:13] <k1l> we had a issue last weeks, where a hoster did deliver a wrecked image to the servers. there were many problems, like missing setuid bit on sudo etc
[16:13] <andrea_> nearst: i belive it's an ATI HD4000 but i've read that using an old nvidia or ati  AGP card will prevent you from using 3D acceleration.
[16:14] <superboot> Does anyone know of a FOSS internet-gateway solution?
[16:15] <RB2> Good Morning. When I'm using any app that doesn't specifically have Unity support (such as pidgin), closing the window instead of minimizing it makes the icon disappear, but it's still running in the background.
[16:15] <bhavesh> I did adduser my_username sudo and it added my_username to sudo, but still when I do sudo apt-get update from my_username it returns must be setuid to root, i should reboot?
[16:15] <RB2> Are there any workarounds for this?
[16:15] <k1l> bhavesh: make sure sudo got the stickybit
[16:16] <bhavesh> k1l: didn't get you
[16:16] <bekks> andrea_: So please check which hardware do you have. "sudo lspci | grep VGA"
[16:16] <bekks> superboot: What do you mean by "internet gateway solution"? Every router at home acts as a gateway :)
[16:18] <guest-wntF9K> I can't login to my user account... I am using ubuntu 12.10 anyone please help me out of this...
[16:19] <guest-wntF9K> I can't login to my user account... I am using ubuntu 12.10 anyone please help me out of this...
[16:19] <dakotawulfy> hi
[16:19] <guest-wntF9K> I can't login to my user account... I am using ubuntu 12.10 anyone please help me out of this...
[16:19] <bekks> !patience | guest-wntF9K
[16:19] <guest-wntF9K> ubottu sorry
[16:19] <k1l> bhavesh: make a "ls -al /usr/bin/sudo" please
[16:20] <guest-wntF9K> ubottu ok
[16:20] <nearst> hihi
[16:20] <sweet_kid> guest-wntF9K: but why?Do you know your root password?
[16:20] <guest-wntF9K> yes sweet_kid
[16:20] <bekks> !root | sweet_kid
[16:20] <guest-wntF9K> it is hanna
[16:20] <nearst> bfq any good ?
[16:20] <bekks> There is no root password...
[16:20] <nearst> become sudo fan :D
[16:21] <guest-wntF9K> the password is hanna
[16:21] <guest-wntF9K> user name is arabi
[16:21] <bhavesh> k1l: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 69708 Jun 1 2012 /usr/bin/sudo
[16:21] <bekks> guest-wntF9K: Erm, do you know that you just told your password to about 1600 people?
[16:21] <bekks> guest-wntF9K: Pretty silly idea to do so.
[16:21] <guest-wntF9K> bekks it is OK with me
[16:22] <k1l> bhavesh: do a "chmod 4111 /usr/bin/sudo"  from the root account
[16:22] <bekks> guest-wntF9K: Well, then good luck.
[16:22] <guest-wntF9K> I am tired of solving this problem... but no result
[16:22] <guest-wntF9K> I can't unnistall and reinstall it
[16:22] <arshavin> nearly burnt my laptop charger cable.........quite relieved that it is still working,the plastic coating from one side is gone need to tape it before it snaps
[16:22] <sweet_kid> guest-wntF9K: how you're logging in?what message/error you're getting?
[16:22] <bhavesh> k1l: now works. Thank you :D
[16:23] <pngl> I can't connect using ssh on one of my remote accounts, but I can on the other. The client's public key is in both remote account's authorized_keys file. What could be happening?
[16:23] <harry_> Hello all. I used Code::Blocks to compile a Hello world program. it compiles and everything is ok but when i double click the "file" in the directory of the project it doesn't open. what can I do to get it displayed?
[16:23] <dakotawulfy> guest-wntF9K there is a way to reset the password
[16:23] <k1l> bhavesh: like i said earlier. seems like the hoster got a wrecked image
[16:23] <guest-wntF9K> sweet_kid when i am login in I am getting a black screen for a while.. and then again return bakc to the login
[16:23] <bhavesh> k1l: okay.
[16:23] <superboot> bekks: internet gateway as in a controlled access pay-for-service solution. Such as used in hotels.
[16:23] <bhavesh> k1l: Its host1free
[16:23] <guest-wntF9K> it is not about password . I can login in using ctrl+alt+f1
[16:24] <guest-wntF9K> guest mode is work fine too
[16:24] <bekks> guest-wntF9K: Then check wether your disk is full - and change your password, since 1600 other people know it.
[16:24] <sweet_kid> okay guest-wntF9K
[16:24] <sweet_kid> hehe
[16:25] <sweet_kid> yes bekks is right
[16:25] <guest-wntF9K> but user mode not working... even I tried with creating new used from terminal.. using adduser ... I can even login with the newly created user
[16:25] <sweet_kid> :D
[16:25] <dakotawulfy> maybe your usrer dir got locked and  need to go into it to unlock it
[16:25] <bekks> guest-wntF9K: Did you read what I just told you?
[16:25] <guest-wntF9K> bekks .. YES
[16:26] <sweet_kid> guest-wntF9K: change your password asap
[16:26] <guest-wntF9K> I will consider It if I can login in again... other ways will try to buy a Mac :(
[16:26] <dakotawulfy> guest-wntF9K see if u can go in to one of the other and open terminal see if u can get into that user
[16:26] <bekks> guest-wntF9K: You said you CAN login on ctrl+alt+f1 -- so do it.
[16:27] <tomka> hi
[16:27] <guest-wntF9K> i can login in using ctrl+alt+f1
[16:27] <ania_> happy new year
[16:27] <guest-wntF9K> ania_ happy new year
[16:27] <kamidi> guest-wntF9K: your problem does not seem to be with login. graphics drivers perhaps? broken lightdm? other graphic related problems? unity?
[16:28] <bekks> guest-wntF9K: So you do not have a login problem.
[16:28] <guest-wntF9K> how can I fix those problems...
[16:28] <kamidi> guest-wntF9K: what did you do before problem started?
[16:28] <guest-wntF9K> I have done alot of things from stackoverflow and askubuntu
[16:29] <guest-wntF9K> I have unity and gnome-fallback ...( because my laptop is little older .. so unity is slow in it)
[16:29] <pellejoku> so, trying to install NVIDIA-Linux-x86-295.49.run, but the window that pops up is a white, blank window. Any ideas?
[16:29] <guest-wntF9K> It was running fine .. till morning..
[16:30] <guest-wntF9K> I have removed some panel and add some panels..nothing else did
[16:30] <Axio> Hi, I would like to make my computer automatically restart if a specific line appears in dmesg. Any simple way to do that?
[16:30] <kamidi> guest-wntF9K: and you can't login to neither gnome-fallback nor unity?
[16:30] <dakotawulfy> guest-wntF9K check ti file under user .Xauthority
[16:31] <guest-wntF9K> kamidi ... I can't
[16:31] <guest-wntF9K> I reinstalled gnome-fallback
[16:31] <guest-wntF9K> still no change
[16:31] <dakotawulfy>  guest-wntF9K if permission got messed up on it that will cause a problem like yours
[16:31] <ahmed1> hello every one  i removed the kernel when i deleting nvidia driver "apt-get remove nvidia-*"   i booted  with previous kernel   problem now i can't update to download the last kernel  error is "some index files faild to download"
[16:32] <guest-wntF9K> is there anyway to restore ubuntu... because getting recovered it anyway is importent to me.. Otherways I would try a reinstall :(
[16:33] <dakotawulfy> guest-wntF9K did u check that file
[16:33] <kamidi> dakotawulfy: he created another user in tty, but problem still persists
[16:33] <dakotawulfy>  that might be it
[16:33] <dakotawulfy> onlu on his main user
[16:33] <dakotawulfy>  thay all have their own file
[16:34] <guest-wntF9K> it is blank dakotawulfy
[16:34] <dakotawulfy> will be
[16:34] <dakotawulfy> see who own it
[16:35] <guest-wntF9K> I have tried nano .Xathority
[16:35] <dakotawulfy> ok
[16:35] <guest-wntF9K> how can I know the owner?
[16:35] <dakotawulfy>  just seen that happen before
[16:35] <donavan01> need some help with DVD play back tried playing a dvd today and it yelled about the disc being encrypted and me needing to install something ... how do I make ubuntu do dvd playback
[16:35] <Santana> ciao
[16:35] <Santana> !list
[16:36] <guest-wntF9K> dakotawulfy how can I know owner?
[16:36] <quitte> donavan01: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[16:36] <quitte> donavan01: 5 seconds with google
[16:36] <dakotawulfy> guest-wntF9K right click on it go to properties
[16:37] <dakotawulfy>  then permissions
[16:37] <guest-wntF9K> I can't right click .. i am usinng ctrl+alt+f1
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> !dvd | donavan01 1.5 seconds with ubottu ;)
[16:38] <bekks> guest-wntF9K: ls -lha ~
[16:38] <donavan01> Thanks guys I just couldnt remember what I was looking for I did this years ago on an older machine but I didnt know I was looking for the restricted format stuff
[16:38] <IdleOne> No need for condescension, not everybody has the google fu and not everybody knows all the bot triggers.
[16:38] <guest-wntF9K> bekks thanks
[16:38] <guest-wntF9K> dakotawulfy arabi owns it .. thats is me