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[01:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libextutils-cbuilder-perl [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [0.280226-1]
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[01:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted lugaru [arm64] (bionic-proposed) [1.2-3]
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[08:26] <smb> Anybody around who would know the status of getting gcc-5 in xenial synchronized between security and updates?
[08:35] <apw> smb, yes, it is being discussed in the background.  to get formal policy right on this issue, they why of it needing to be done
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[08:56]  * LocutusOfBorg is unsure about why the v5 renaming has to be reverted now ^^
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[09:00] <LocutusOfBorg> bdmurray, ^^ this one should be better?
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[18:05] <slangasek> /usr/include/boost/predef/language/stdc.h:52: Parse error at "defined"
[18:05] <slangasek> thanks, gazebo
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[18:55] <slashd> thanks slangasek cyphermox ^
[19:00] <cyphermox> I didn't do anything in this
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[19:25] <doko> slangasek: libsdl2 and ffmpeg are now connected with haskell as well
[20:06] <slangasek> doko: due to new uploads?
[20:07] <slangasek> or just following the threads of the in-flight transition to the end?
[20:07] <slangasek> doko: I did a no-change upload of simbody which fixed one FTBFS in gazebo, and now it complains about boost per above.  I haven't tracked that any further
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[07:45] <tommy``> hi, i still have this annyoning issue: https://i.stack.imgur.com/EL8UD.jpg some app on tray bar doesn't have icons, what it could be?
[22:51] <Akita> owo
[22:56] <AkitaUwU> owo


[05:56] <khanfused> Can anyone assist with either some advice in JACK configuration, or a pointer to a well written *recent* guide?  I have a Line6 PodXT live (digital guitar amp) that I'm trying to get USB-plugged into my machine (ubuntu 12.10 w/ustudio ) so that the guitar signal shows up in Ardour. (cont)
[05:57] <khanfused> Through various experiments I've managed to get the guitar signal to show up on Ardour's VU meters ... but it doesn't hit the recording track, and (more importantly) I don't hear the guitar through the monitors/system speakers
[06:01] <SunStar> while you wait for some 1 who knows this stufff, you can also try in #jack and #opensourcemusicians
[06:01] <khanfused> cool, thanks
[14:38] <Edmund> Hi Guys can anyone tell me how to install "kompozer" formally knows as "UNV"
[14:39] <smartboyhw> Edmund, sudo apt-get install kompozer?
[14:39] <zequence> Is it in the repo?
[14:40] <zequence> apt-cache search kompozer
[14:40] <zequence> It's possible to download and install manually http://www.kompozer.net/
[14:40] <Edmund> It not in the repo and I tried  sudo apt-get install kompozer which gives me : Reading package lists... Done
[14:40] <Edmund> Building dependency tree
[14:40] <Edmund> Reading state information... Done
[14:40] <Edmund> E: Unable to locate package kompozer
[14:43] <zequence> Edmund: You can download from their site, then unpack the tar file anywhere, and run the binary "kompozer"
[14:43] <zequence> It has some dependencies though
[14:43] <Edmund> Doesn't work and no clue is given about missing whatever...
[14:44] <zequence> google is your friend too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=484165
[14:44] <smartboyhw> !lmgtfy
[14:44] <smartboyhw> zequence, ^ :P
[14:44] <zequence> http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/10.04/?q=kompozer
[14:45] <zequence> smartboyhw: I guess you didn't notice I also answered his question, while I told him how I found the answer
[14:46] <smartboyhw> zequence, reminder only:)
[14:46] <zequence> smartboyhw: Please, don't remind me
[14:46] <smartboyhw> ....
[14:46] <Edmund> done all that, doest't work!
[14:47] <smartboyhw> Edmund, :O
[14:47] <zequence> Edmund: The package is meant for Ubuntu 10.04, but it may work on newer
[14:47] <Edmund> I want it on unbuntustudio ( beta2 )
[14:55] <zequence> Edmund: I'm looking up the dependencies, hold on
[14:59] <zequence> It's claiming that a dependency is missing, even when it isn't
[14:59] <smartboyhw> zequence, which?
[15:00] <zequence> smartboyhw: Are you also looking at this?
[15:00] <smartboyhw> zequence, no. I'm helping out the UbuntuKylin guys to understand the difficult administration of the ISO QA Tracker:P
[15:00] <zequence> Then why ask?
[15:01] <smartboyhw> zequence, I rather think the app set the install location wrong
[15:01] <smartboyhw> For example, it looks at the dependency like /opt/bin/zequence, but actually it is in /usr/bin/zequence, etc.
[15:01] <smartboyhw> Maybe
[15:02] <zequence> smartboyhw: It's trying to find a runtime library, and yes, probably looking in the wrong place
[15:04] <smartboyhw> zequence, Edmund what happened is that somebody requested removal of kompozer in 12.10
[15:04] <smartboyhw> and of course, 13.04
[15:04] <smartboyhw> zequence, I rather would want to download https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/kompozer_0.8%7Eb3.dfsg.1-0.1ubuntu2_amd64.deb and dpkg -i it
[15:04] <smartboyhw> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kompozer
[15:05] <smartboyhw> Edmund, ^
[15:06] <smartboyhw> At least that's a 12.04 binary
[15:06] <smartboyhw> For reference: Bug 1065547
[15:06] <smartboyhw> It's actually reported by micahg:O
[15:11] <zequence> It's no longer maintained in Debian. That is why it's removed
[15:11] <zequence> I think my problem has to do with this being a 64bit system
[15:12] <smartboyhw> multiarch!!!!
[15:12] <smartboyhw> LOL
[15:14] <zequence> I can confirm that installing the .deb packages smartboyhw linked to will work
[15:14] <smartboyhw> zequence, \o/
[15:15] <zequence> Edmund: Download and install in this order https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/kompozer-data_0.8%7Eb3.dfsg.1-0.1ubuntu2_all.deb
[15:15] <zequence> Edmund: If 64bit https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/kompozer_0.8%7Eb3.dfsg.1-0.1ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[15:15] <zequence> Edmund: if 32bit https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/kompozer_0.8%7Eb3.dfsg.1-0.1ubuntu2_i386.deb
[15:16] <zequence> The command to install from command line is: sudo dpkg -i <packagename>
[15:17] <zequence> Edmund: Actually, you might want to start with: sudo apt-get install libatk1.0-0 libc6 libcairo2 libfontconfig1 libfreetype6 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 libglib2.0-0 libgtk2.0-0 libidl0 libnspr4 libnss3 libpango1.0-0 libpng12-0 libstdc++6 libx11-6 libxft2 libxinerama1 libxrender1 libxt6 zlib1g
[15:17] <zequence> Then download and install the two packages
[16:00] <Edmund> Now I get :
[16:00] <Edmund>  sudo dpkg -i kompozer_0.8~b3.dfsg.1-0.1ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[16:00] <Edmund> Selecting previously unselected package kompozer.
[16:00] <Edmund> (Reading database ... 311978 files and directories currently installed.)
[16:00] <Edmund> Unpacking kompozer (from kompozer_0.8~b3.dfsg.1-0.1ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ...
[16:00] <Edmund> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kompozer:
[16:00] <Edmund>  kompozer depends on kompozer-data; however:
[16:00] <Edmund>   Package kompozer-data is not installed.
[16:00] <Edmund> dpkg: error processing kompozer (--install):
[16:00] <Edmund>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[16:00] <Edmund> Processing triggers for menu ...
[16:00] <Edmund> Processing triggers for man-db ...
[16:00] <smartboyhw> Edmund, install kompozer-data first
[16:00] <Edmund> Processing triggers for bamfdaemon ...
[16:00] <Edmund> Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf-2.index...
[16:00] <Edmund> Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
[16:00] <Edmund> Processing triggers for gnome-menus ...
[16:00] <Edmund> Errors were encountered while processing:
[16:00] <Edmund>  kompozer
[16:00] <smartboyhw> !paste | Edmund
[16:00] <smartboyhw> Edmund, install the -data first
[16:01] <smartboyhw> Then install the main thing
[16:02] <zequence> Edmund: Read the whole text I wrote. Start with the dependencies, then install the packages in the right order
[16:02] <zequence> Edmund: At this point, you might want to start with fixing your apt: sudo apt-get install -f
[16:03] <zequence> Edmund: Then the dependencies: sudo apt-get install libatk1.0-0 libc6 libcairo2 libfontconfig1 libfreetype6 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 libglib2.0-0 libgtk2.0-0  libidl0 libnspr4 libnss3 libpango1.0-0 libpng12-0 libstdc++6 libx11-6 libxft2 libxinerama1 libxrender1 libxt6 zlib1g
[16:03] <zequence> And then the packages - in the right order
[16:08] <Edmund> Wowie, Thank you guys! I can open kompozer, great!
[16:08] <smartboyhw> Edmund, zequence \o/
[16:14] <is_null> hi all, if i just want to use ardour then i might as well install ubuntu and setup jack2 myself ? or is there anything else that ubuntu studio provides ?
[16:15] <zequence> is_null: Add yourself to audio group, in order to get realtime privilege
[16:16] <zequence> is_null: Also, if you require low latency, install linux-lowlatency
[16:16] <zequence> is_null: Of course, you also need to answer "yes", when asked about realtime prio when installing jackd
[16:17] <is_null> thanks zequence, so ubuntu + a low latency kernel + jack2 is as good as ubuntu studio for ardour ?
[16:18] <smartboyhw> is_null: well yes
[16:18] <zequence> smartboyhw: He was asking me
[16:18] <is_null> ah ok, thanks
[16:18] <zequence> is_null: And adding yourself to audio group
[16:19] <zequence> is_null: Also, we have swappiness turned down to 10. It's at 60 by default
[16:20] <zequence> is_null: You can adjust swappiness in /etc/sysctl.conf
[16:33] <khanfused> I'd asked last night - but fell off line and couldn't see if anyone answered -- Can anyone assist with either some advice in JACK configuration, or a pointer to a well written *recent* guide?   I have a Line6 PodXT live (digital guitar amp) that I'm trying to get USB-plugged into my machine (ubuntu 12.10 w/ustudio ) so that the guitar signal shows up in Ardour. (cont)
[16:34] <khanfused> rough various experiments I've managed to get the guitar signal to show up on Ardour's VU meters ... but it doesn't hit the recording track, and (more importantly) I don't hear the guitar through the monitors/system speakers (the important part right now -- some day I'll actually buy an amp with speakers :-)  )
[16:43] <zequence> khanfused: Could you do this in a terminal, and post the results on http://paste.ubuntu.com: cat /proc/asound/cards
[16:44] <zequence> Then post the link here
[16:45] <khanfused> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5724947/
[16:46] <zequence> khanfused: So, this is the ID name for your USB device "PODxtLive". We'll use that later
[16:46] <zequence> khanfused: How do you usually start jack?
[16:47] <khanfused> I re-did the experiments (mostly by noodling my way through) today.  I either start up qjackCtl or Patchage, and that starts the jack services
[16:47] <khanfused> today it's patchage -- in both cases I've had accidental successes, but today patchage has me getting signal to Ardour's master channel. (That could be me being a n00b about patching/setup)
[16:47] <zequence> khanfused: problem with starting patchage, if jack isn't running, is that it will start jackd, while qjackctl with default settings will start jackdbus, so you'll have two jacks running
[16:47] <khanfused> ... ah
[16:48] <khanfused> I have the 1 running - jackd
[16:48] <khanfused> just checked
[16:48] <zequence> khanfused: I'd use qjackctl to start jack, and then if you prefer patchage, start it afterwards
[16:48] <zequence> or, let me check patchage..
[16:49] <zequence> khanfused: patchage will read your settings in ~/.jackdrc
[16:50] <zequence> khanfused: Could you post the results from: cat ~/.jackdrc
[16:50] <zequence> It's just one line
[16:50] <khanfused> /usr/bin/jackd -p 128 -R -P 60 -T -d alsa -n 2 -r 44100 -p 1024 -d hw:1,0
[16:53] <zequence> khanfused: Close patchage, then kill jack: killall jackd
[16:53] <khanfused> done
[16:53] <khanfused> and of course ardour complains about losing its friend :-)
[16:53] <zequence> khanfused: Then, replace "hw:1,0" with "hw:PODxtLive", without the quotes, and make sure you add hw:
[16:54] <zequence> in .jackdrc
[16:54] <zequence> or, to test it directly from the terminal: jackd -d alsa -d hw:PODxtLive
[16:55] <khanfused> file edited
[16:55] <zequence> khanfused: The order of the cards may change at each boot, so when you start patchage, there's no saying which card is started, if the .jackdrc says hw:1
[16:56] <zequence> khanfused: Try the command first, to see if jack will start: jackd -d alsa -d hw:PODxtLive
[16:56] <khanfused> want a pastebin of the results?
[16:56] <zequence> khanfused: Not if it worked
[16:57] <khanfused> seemed to
[16:57] <khanfused> none of the outputs screamed 'error'
[16:57] <zequence> If it didn't stop, it worked
[16:57] <zequence> You can shut it down with Ctrl+C
[16:57] <zequence> khanfused: So, now, patchage will always start jack with your usb device
[16:59] <zequence> khanfused: As for getting a signal into Ardour, you just need to make sure your Line6 is connected to the correct Ardour input. You can do that in patchage, or Qjackctl -> Connect
[17:00] <zequence> khanfused: btw, if you want qjackctl to also start hw:PODxtLive, you'll need to add it manually to Qjackctl -> Setup -> "Interface"
[17:01] <zequence> khanfused: And about monitoring. One easy way is to just connect your System input to your System output
[17:01] <zequence> khanfused: All though, you can set monitoring in Ardour too. I haven't yet tried it, but it's usually not too complicated once you find the right buttons or settings
[17:02] <khanfused> 'finding the right settings' seems to be the fun part :-) ... still trying to recreate what I did in patchage earlier -- whether or not it's correct.  in Patchage the pod doesn't seem to want to connect to anythign but ardour's control/mcu/seq channels
[17:02] <khanfused> which I think (from what I read) those three and the POD are considered alsa sources (green highlight)
[17:02] <zequence> khanfused: Those are not audio signals
[17:03] <khanfused> didn't think so
[17:03] <zequence> khanfused: So, you're probably connecting its midi interface
[17:03] <zequence> khanfused: Usually, the audio interface is called System
[17:03] <khanfused> capture 1 and capture 2
[17:03] <khanfused> (for system)
[17:03] <zequence> Those would be inputs
[17:04] <zequence> so, connect one or both captures to ardours inputs
[17:04] <khanfused> and doing that gave me VU on the master channel
[17:04] <zequence> dependning if you'll be recording stereo or not. Pods have stereo FX, which is why you'd sometimes want to do that
[17:05] <khanfused> I only dropped one guitar track down in ardour -- I assume that's why I have only one ardour guitar input
[17:05] <zequence> khanfused: In Ardour, create a new channel. Then, connect your Pod to that channel
[17:05] <zequence> the more channels you add to ardour, the more inputs it'll get
[17:06] <zequence> I gotta go, but I'm sure you'll get the hang of it. good luck
[17:06] <khanfused> thanks!
[21:06] <studio-user966> hi there :-)
[21:07] <studio-user966> i try Ubuntustudio so here i am :-)
[21:08] <studio-user966> it is installing ... hahaha while i am here and watch The Big Bangtheory :D
[21:08] <studio-user966> as we know Ubuntu is Sheldons favoritedistribution
[21:09] <SunStar> i did not know that
[21:14] <studio-user966> but does say that in S3 '3
[21:14] <studio-user966> but does say that in S3 '22
[21:16] <SunStar> i only watch when im too lazy to turn the channel  :P
[21:31] <zequence> Who's Sheldon?
[21:33] <SunStar> a character on TV's The Big Bang Theory


[04:19] <bobweaver> ping tgm4883,
[04:21] <bobweaver> when you get a chance how does one call mythavtest  using a ip.   example /usr/bin/mythavtest  http://<IP_ADDRESS>:6544/what/is/this/part  ?
[15:25] <tgm4883> bobweavertv, well, for starters you don't feed it an http link
[15:29] <tgm4883> bobweavertv, a quick look at some older code says this
[15:29] <tgm4883> URI = 'myth://'+result['StorageGroup']+'@'+BACKEND+':'+result['MythProtocolPort']+'/'+result['FileName']
[15:29] <tgm4883> which is what is fed to mythavtest


[00:11] <elfy> hello and good to see channel
[03:46] <Kevin`> I found something twisted you can do with linux for arm and can't with windows for arm: http://pastebin.com/dHM6WX1j
[03:55] <lilstevie> why would you want to though
[03:55] <lilstevie> :p
[03:57] <Kevin`> lilstevie: just as a perversion. windows 8 for arm can't run it's own executables specifically designed to be portable, so it's fun.
[03:58] <lilstevie> :p


[07:13] <knome> next meeting scheduled
[07:14] <elfy> thanks :)
[07:15] <knome> no problemo
[08:17] <elfy> bug 1391675 - anyone know why we can't add bug watches to that? I couldn't and I guess ali1234 tried
[08:24] <knome> elfy, you are notified of all changes
[08:24] <knome> elfy, at least that's what launchpad tells me..
[08:24] <knome> oh, you mean something else
[08:25]  * knome facepalms
[08:26] <knome> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/xfce-bugs shows the correct bug watch connection
[08:26] <knome> and the page shows that bug watch too..
[08:26] <knome> bottom right
[08:32] <elfy> possibly not quite what I was meaning - I can't add the xfce bug at the top of the bug
[08:32] <elfy> at "also affects"
[08:32] <elfy> anyway - not hugely important as long as it's watched somehow :)
[08:34] <knome> see the sidebar, at the top
[08:34] <knome> maybe they changed how the bug watches are shown
[08:35] <knome> and afaik, "also affects" is launchpad projects only, never been external bug watches (even though they have been shown there)
[08:36] <elfy> obviously not explaining myself well here - really not important :)
[08:37] <knome> i'm pretty sure i've understood you right
[08:37] <knome> :)
[08:38] <elfy> ok - well if you've understood me - then what I don't understand is why I can't do the same with that ^^ bug as with bug 1382977 where it HAS let us add the xfce bug in the affects :)
[08:39] <elfy> anyway ...
[08:53] <knome> elfy, right, assigned to
[08:55] <knome> good question.
[08:57] <elfy> I try :p
[12:16] <brainwash> Unit193: should we switch to mate-system-tools?
[17:14] <ali1234> brainwash: sharing things with mate seems like a good idea to me, they are in a very similar position to us
[17:15] <ali1234> brainwash: we should wait until mate is in ubuntu repositories first though, maybe we could even help with that?
[17:15] <ali1234> the plan is for that to happen by alpha 2
[17:16] <ali1234> http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1411-ubuntu-mate-remix
[17:16] <ali1234> they also use lightdm-gtk-greeter and indicators
[17:18] <brainwash> until it is in ubuntu repos? didn't they release ubuntu mate 14.10 plus 14.04 just recently?
[17:18] <ali1234> yes but it uses PPAs
[17:19] <ali1234> the work to get everything in the normal repos is underway right now, that's what the UOS session was entirely about
[17:19] <brainwash> I thought that you could just install mate in 14.10
[17:19] <brainwash> without ppas
[17:19] <ali1234> you can, there is an ISO that has the PPA enabled by default
[17:19] <brainwash> that's confusing :D
[17:20] <ali1234> trust me, i was at the session and talking with the developer :)
[17:20] <brainwash> but working with the mate guys is very important I think
[17:20] <ali1234> yes it's confusing, but it will be solved for the next release if all goes to plan
[17:20] <ali1234> and yes they do want to work with us too
[17:21] <brainwash> makes we wonder, which one will be able to move on to gtk3 first
[17:21] <ali1234> we are in roughly the same position there
[17:21] <ali1234> they have everything "ported" but it's rough and breaking all the time
[17:21] <ali1234> so just like Xfce really
[17:22] <ali1234> porting to Gtk really isn't that hard
[17:22] <ali1234> 3
[17:22] <brainwash> but almost no one cares about it
[17:22] <ali1234> right
[17:22] <ali1234> it doesn't have many practical benefits
[17:22] <ali1234> it just brings problems when they change the API
[17:23] <ali1234> maybe watch the start of the session before the video died?
[17:23] <ali1234> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22355/ubuntu-mate-remix-1504/
[17:23] <ali1234> it's only like 5 minutes
[17:27] <brainwash> 5 minutes?
[17:27] <ali1234> yeah, the hangout died and we did most of the session on irc
[17:27] <brainwash> but the video is 16 minutes long
[17:27] <ali1234> okay maybe it's 10 minutes then... plus 5 minutes of faffing when the video dies
[17:40] <brainwash> ok, I've watched the video


[13:24] <gary_poster> benji, I'm trying to get lp2kanban running.  Should I use a system python or a clean python, in your experience?
[13:25] <gary_poster> (for buildout)
[13:25] <benji> gary_poster: clean
[13:25] <gary_poster> cool
[13:25] <benji> the buildout includes all dependencies (not that there are that many)
[13:25] <gary_poster> benji, clean python runs setup.py, gets
[13:26] <gary_poster> Traceback (most recent call last):
[13:26] <gary_poster>   File "setup.py", line 2, in <module>
[13:26] <gary_poster>     from setuptools import setup, find_packages
[13:26] <gary_poster> ImportError: No module named setuptools
[13:26] <gary_poster> dirty python? :-)
[13:26] <benji> well
[13:26] <benji> I guess so.
[13:26] <gary_poster> heh
[13:26] <gary_poster> ok
[13:26] <benji> Sounds like another card.
[13:27] <gary_poster> actually, it doesn't work with system pythoneither benji! uh...
[13:27] <benji> This is my first day using Natty and my SSD for work, I hope it goes OK.
[13:27] <gary_poster> bac benji danilos gmb kanban now, call in 3
[13:27] <benji> darn
[13:28] <gary_poster> we can put in that "download setuptools" snippet
[13:28] <gary_poster> but I dunno why it would be necessary in system python
[13:28] <gary_poster> well, it's not there :-P
[13:29] <gary_poster> I'll look at it later
[13:29] <benji> k
[13:29] <danilos> ack
[13:47] <danilos> gary_poster, oh, we all have calls today, right?
[13:49] <gary_poster> danilos, oh yeah, that. :-)  yes, we do
[13:49] <bac> benji: which SSD did you get?
[13:50] <benji> the (relatively) new 3rd generation Intel 160G
[13:50] <bac> spendy?
[13:51]  * gary_poster wishes 512GB were not >$1000
[13:51] <benji> it wasn't too bad, but not cheap: about $320
[13:52] <benji> my mouse hovered over the 300G one for a few seconds, but that bad boy is over $600
[13:52] <gary_poster> heh, did they charge you anything for the mouse proximity?
[13:52] <benji> gary_poster: yeah, the 600G is $1,200
[13:53] <benji> don't say that too loud or Amazon will come up with 0-click ordering
[13:53] <gary_poster> :-)
[14:08] <danilos> gary_poster, my fixes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/616717/
[14:08] <gary_poster> cool thanks danilos
[14:09] <danilos> gary_poster, benji: oh, one thing I've been wondering: what happens with multiple card assignees when the lp2kanban script runs?
[14:09] <gary_poster> danilos, I was wondering about that too but not worrrg about it yet. :-)  My intention wast the kanban syncer would only add assignees, never remove them
[14:10] <gary_poster> *worrying,  *was
[14:10] <benji> I haven't tested it, but from the way their API works I think only the "primary" assignee will be modified; I don't know how to find out which one is primary from the web UI though
[14:10] <danilos> gary_poster, I thought it was the "talk like a pirate day" already :)
[14:10] <gary_poster> heh
[14:11] <danilos> benji, gary_poster: ok, cool, so we hope it works just fine
[14:11] <benji> hope springs eternal
[14:11] <gary_poster> yeah, we'll see, and I think we agree on what we want it to do, so hopefully we can fix it if there are problems
[14:13] <gary_poster> danilos, the reason I changed bug-portlet-subscription.pt was because of the anonymous problem I was talking about.  I'll mess with things so that what I want (request/features/malone.advanced-subscriptions.enabled *and* authenticated) is there
[14:15] <gary_poster> bbs
[14:16] <danilos> gary_poster, right, cool, I admit to not having tested for anonymous users, but they get what they deserve! :)
[14:25] <gmb> It's a matter of some concern that at no point throughout the 9 months that the advanced-subscriptions flag has existed, has anyone ever spent more than half a second thinking "what about anonymous users?"
[14:28] <gary_poster> heh
[14:28] <gary_poster> yeah
[14:32] <gary_poster> gmb, may I call?
[14:32] <gmb> gary_poster: Sure
[14:44] <danilos> gmb, we want to encourage them to register: "Want to see less OOPSes? Register now!"
[14:44] <gmb> Heh
[14:44] <gary_poster> :-)
[14:48] <benji> grr, VMs aren't very useful when their networking doesn't work
[15:31] <gary_poster> danilos, call?
[15:35] <danilos> gary_poster, yep, ready
[16:14]  * gmb -> out
[16:15] <danilos> gary_poster, btw, one thing on your code so far: this change (http://paste.ubuntu.com/616815/) means that you'll insert "unmute and subscribe" radio box in front of the simple "unmute" which is set before the for loop; I think it'd naturally live in the second place instead
[16:16] <gary_poster> danilos, I thought about that.  My logic was that (1) we care most about the JS story; (2) in the JS story, the user clicked the "subscribe" link, not the "unmute" link, so it might be reasonable to assume that they actually want to subscribe.
[16:18] <danilos> gary_poster, true, good point, even for the non-JS story
[16:18] <gary_poster> yeah, that too
[16:18] <danilos> (also, in practice, we are not letting them get to that state easily — hold a mute with no subscription — though it's not impossibly hard either)
[16:19] <gary_poster> yeah
[16:19] <gary_poster> particularly with other subscriptions
[16:19] <gary_poster> (structural etc.)
[16:20] <danilos> btw, I am not a huge fan of the mute icon ;)
[16:20] <gary_poster> lol
[16:21] <gary_poster> anything in particular?  and did you prefer the X/checkmark we had before?
[16:23] <danilos> gary_poster, nothing in particular, it took me a second or two to figure out that it was a crossed-off envelope
[16:24] <gary_poster> heh
[16:24] <gary_poster> gotcha
[16:25] <danilos> gary_poster, fwiw, it just occurred to me that it might work better if it was not crossed-off (it's red already, that should be enough for anybody who's not colour blind ;))
[16:26] <gary_poster> danilos, and did you see we already had a "it's not good enough for the color-blind" comment in the bug, as well as a "I'm color-blind and it works for me"?  Really! :-)
[16:27] <danilos> gary_poster, heh, I am red-green colour blind myself (though only some very weird-orangy-browny shades of the two colours), and they "work for me!"
[16:27] <gary_poster> heh, ok
[16:27] <danilos> heh, I first thought the mute icon was garbled somehow
[16:27] <gary_poster> lol
[16:34] <gary_poster> danilos, making MP
[16:44] <danilos> gary_poster, cool, I couldn't resist myself commenting on the bug as well :)
[16:52] <gary_poster> danilos, I like the @ idea, but I'm staying away. :-)
[16:53] <gary_poster> danilos, https://code.launchpad.net/~gary/launchpad/bug740631/+merge/63251
[16:56] <danilos> gary_poster, btw, did I ever mention how I find it ironic that +subscribe page has nice JS-based animation of the bug notification level sliding in and out? :)
[17:00] <danilos> gary_poster, looking at your branch now, what's do_next for on line 223?
[17:00] <danilos> ah
[17:00] <danilos> gary_poster, never mind, scrolled a bit further down :)
[17:01] <danilos> gary_poster, fwiw, Y.Lang.isFunction might be a better check for line 232 of the diff
[17:03] <gary_poster> danilos, sorry, back
[17:04] <gary_poster> danilos, sure, will use isFunction.  Was being lazy :-P
[17:09] <danilos> gary_poster, all else looks great
[17:10] <gary_poster> cool, thanks danilos!  I'll push the isFunction change (works fine) and ec2 land
[17:22] <gary_poster> about to go for walk in 90˚F because I want to :-)
[17:22] <gary_poster> biab
[18:22] <benji> I'm hungry.
[19:08] <benji> ok, I've applied liberal amounts of Google and I still can't get my VM network up; anyone seen this before?
[19:09] <gary_poster> The only time I have trouble is when the kernel has changed so much that the vmware tools can't adapt
[19:09] <gary_poster> It's possible that the tools aren't quite ready for natty yet
[19:10] <benji> I think my next task is to install a clean OS in a new VM to see if it works or not, at least that would let me bifurcate the problem space.
[19:10] <benji> gary_poster: do you mean natty on the host side or as the VM OS?
[19:10] <gary_poster> I'm quietly using maverick still, fwiw.  I've been thinking about setting up a separate boot for Ubuntu, but that will take time...and disk space I don't really have
[19:10] <gary_poster> VM os
[19:10] <benji> I'm natty on the outside and maverick in the VM
[19:11] <gary_poster> oic
[19:11] <benji> it's like an ubuntu sandwich
[19:11] <gary_poster> :-)
[19:12] <benji> I had a very similar problem when I cloned my lucid VM, the clone couldn't do networking, but in that case the interfaces just got renumbered (eth0 became eth1) and relabeling them fixed it, this time the interface doesn't even show up in ifconfig's output
[19:13] <benji> ok, I'll make a new VM and do maverick install into it to see if its networking works
[19:13] <gary_poster> good luck :-/
[19:13] <benji> How much work would a network work if a network could work nets?
[19:16] <gary_poster> :-)
[19:31] <gary_poster> bac, ready when you are
[19:31] <bac> ok, was just about to ping you
[19:31] <gary_poster> gimme a call when you are ready
[20:42] <benji> Success!  The network works!
[20:58] <gary_poster> yay, benji!  on the new vm, or the old one?
[20:58] <benji> both!
[20:58] <gary_poster> excellent :-)
[21:03] <gary_poster> benji, please gimme a call when you are ready
[21:03] <gary_poster> no rush