[01:27] <jbailey> fabbione: I'ts in the sparc64 pass.  I'm going to watch the test log for the first sparc32 pass, but the v9 and v9b passes failed to build.
[01:27] <jbailey> Seems gcc-3.3 only includes __thread support for plain sparc32.
[01:29] <jbailey> Huh, I had forgotten how freakishly long this takes to build. =)
[01:51] <fabbione> jbailey: don't worry.. it's only the first time that takes so long
[01:51] <jbailey> Yeah, except that next pass I'll probably do it with gcc-3.4
[04:36] <zul> heylo
[07:24] <fabbione> morning
[01:24] <fabbione> jbailey: i am afraid l-k-h is still borked on sparc
[01:24] <fabbione> i am getting some weird FTBFS
[01:29] <jbailey> fabbione: Can you point me to some errors reports?
[01:30] <fabbione> jbailey: check in ~/logs/libgtop2_2.10.1-1
[01:30] <fabbione> it builded on all arches other than sparc with something related to signals
[01:32] <fabbione> jbailey: also iproute and iptraf have weird FTBFS
[01:32] <fabbione> ignore iptraf.. that one fails all over
[01:33] <fabbione> but iproute is same as libgtop2
[01:33] <jbailey> Same two signals?
[01:33] <fabbione> nope
[01:33] <fabbione> iproute fails with other errors still related to includes
[01:34] <jbailey> Interesting, those two signals are only defined in asm-frv/signal.h in lkh.  /me checks pure kernel source.
[01:34] <fabbione>  /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lstdc++
[01:34] <fabbione> this is sdl-mixer :)
[01:35] <fabbione> i saw 2 or 3 of this kind
[01:35] <fabbione> we also need to allign the Toolchain
[01:35] <fabbione> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:35] <fabbione>   g77: Depends: g77-3.4 (>= 3.4.3) but it is not installable
[01:35] <fabbione>   gcj: Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.0-0) but 4:3.3.5-4 is to be installed
[01:36] <jbailey> fabbione: One at a time. =)
[01:37] <fabbione> jbailey: yeah.. i was grabbing the most common ones
[01:37] <jbailey> Is gcc-defaults broken on your system, though?
[01:37] <fabbione> jbailey: do you have an imap setup?
[01:37] <jbailey> fabbione: I'm using the corporate IMAP server...
[01:38] <fabbione> jbailey: ok so you use a client that have imap :)
[01:38] <jbailey> Right, evolution.
[01:38] <jbailey> Why?
[01:38] <fabbione> i am sending you a mail..
[01:39] <fabbione> given that i can find your key with the ubuntu.com UID
[01:40] <fabbione> well i did send it @debian.org
[01:41] <jbailey> I don't have an ubuntu.com on my GPG key yet.  I'm still trying to decide what I want to do there.
[01:41] <jbailey> I will probably create a work-only key and get that signed at UDU.
[01:41] <fabbione> eheh
[01:46] <jbailey> It's not an lkh bug, it's a glib bug.
[01:46] <jbailey> /usr/include/bits/signum.h doesn't include SIGSTKFLT or SIGUNUSED
[01:46] <fabbione> nice..
[01:47] <fabbione> but only on sparc... right?
[01:47] <fabbione> since it builded on the other platforms
[01:47] <jbailey> It's hard to assert "only".
[01:47] <jbailey> The problem doesn't occur on PPC at least.
[01:47] <fabbione> well considering the few arches we are working on.. sparc is one of four
[01:47] <fabbione> 3 have built
[01:47] <fabbione> i have the option to say "only" :P
[01:48] <jbailey> Did ia64 fail to build?
[01:48] <fabbione> there is no ia64 atm
[01:48] <jbailey> Oh? a'ight then.
[01:50] <jbailey> Upstream source does not include SIGUNUSED or SIGSTKFLT in asm-sparc*.  Reassigning to kernel maintainer. ;)
[01:51] <fabbione> humpf
[01:52] <jbailey> It is likely a kernel bug - everything from m32r, cris up to x86_64 includes them.
[01:52] <fabbione> i was checking that it did build in debian
[01:52] <fabbione> the 1st of Feb
[01:52] <fabbione> on sparc
[01:53] <jbailey> Lemme check the ChangeLog.  I think these files are manually generated.
[01:54] <fabbione> let's scare doko a bit :)
[01:57] <jbailey> Last change was in Apr 2003, so there's no change in this file between Hoary and Breezy.
[01:59] <jbailey> fabbione: LOL You're cruel... ;)
[02:01] <jbailey> Got anything else I can punt back to you? =)
[02:02] <jbailey> I feel a little bad.  I sent the guy from 9824 to his doom.
[02:02] <jbailey> I told him to go talk to drepper if he had issues with malloc.
[02:02] <jbailey> I think this will be another black mark on my soul.
[02:02] <fabbione> ehhe yeah in this chan we are true bastards :)
[02:02] <fabbione> so you are telling me that it is a kernel problem...
[02:03] <fabbione> now my next question would be...
[02:03] <fabbione> given that the kernel hasn't changed between hoary and breezy
[02:03] <jbailey> fabbione: In that this arch doesn't appear to define those signals, and I suspect it should.
[02:03] <fabbione> and that the package did build for hoary...
[02:03] <fabbione> who should i blame?
[02:03] <jbailey> Has the package changed?
[02:03] <fabbione> yeps.. new version.. dunno the details tho
[02:03] <fabbione> i can check that
[02:03] <jbailey> My guess is they now assume those signals exist.
[02:04] <jbailey> And by the looks of who all supports them, it possibly should be a valid assumption.
[02:04] <jbailey> But I can't add them to glibc until I know what signal numbers get assigned to them.
[02:04] <fabbione> right...
[02:07] <jbailey> Got your email, nice!
[02:07] <jbailey> When I ran a buildd we used pop3 so that it acted like a mutex-wrapped stack for us. =)  Whoever got the emails needed to deal with them.
[02:08] <fabbione> jbailey: well it's the same in ~/logs :)
[02:08] <fabbione> just easier to parse ;)
[02:08] <fabbione> and yes the certificate name mistmatch is ok
[02:08] <jbailey> 'k
[02:09] <T-Bone> ohayo
[02:10] <fabbione> jbailey: i can readd the signals in signals.h, but the question is, why were they missing in the first place?
[02:11] <jbailey> fabbione: Right, which is why I need to punt it back to you.  I have no way of knowing that, and benc is willing to answer your mails and not mine. =)
[02:11] <fabbione> and readding them with random numbers (since the ones declared for the arches are already in use in sparc), is it ok or can create more mess?
[02:11] <doko> fabbione: you should add to the topic "there are no compiler and kernel bugs" ...
[02:11] <fabbione> jbailey: he didn't answer the second one...
[02:12] <jbailey> Ahahahah
[02:14] <jbailey> fabbione: Well, the problem with readding them with a random number is that these are about to be hardcoded into programs.  So if they're seriously wrong (like a signal comes along and triggers the wrong behaviour) then we have 1) Unpredictable behaviour 2) A pile of binNMUs to do, since it's effectively a kernel->userspace ABI break.
[02:15] <fabbione> jbailey: that's what i was scared about
[02:16] <fabbione> i need to wake up my wife...
[02:17] <fabbione> and puts an end to my nerding weekend :/
[02:17] <jbailey> *lol*
[02:17] <jbailey> fabbione: Maybe fire off an email to davem first?
[02:18] <fabbione> i will mail him tomorrow...
[02:18] <fabbione> i want to build some more packages from universe first
[02:18] <fabbione> since main is stalled
[02:18] <fabbione> i need elmo to sync sparc.u.c for me
[02:18] <fabbione> at least all the packages that could be built for main did
[02:18] <fabbione> there are only a few left
[02:19] <jbailey> Is there another one you want me to quickly look at?  Otherwise I will go back to other hacking.
[02:19] <fabbione> checking....
[02:20] <fabbione> jbailey: sdl-mixer
[02:20] <fabbione>  /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lstdc++
[02:20] <fabbione> it looks really weird to me
[02:20] <fabbione> btw 9824. you did ok
[02:21] <jbailey> Bah.  This one's toolchain.  Don't use cc for compiling c++ apps.
[02:21] <jbailey> gcc works around it when the version of gcc and g++ match, but when they don't, you'll get strange things.
[02:21] <fabbione> ok
[02:22] <fabbione> so we need to allign the toolchain :)
[02:22] <fabbione> jbailey: thanks a lot.. that's all for today
[02:22] <jbailey> fabbione: Anytime. ;)
[02:22] <fabbione> since i know that a kickback should be enough, i am not too scares
[02:22] <fabbione> scared
[02:25] <jbailey> Yeah.  I imagine that the signals issue will be a quick enough fix.  Once it's in upstream, we can shuffle it along easily enough.
[02:25] <jbailey> upstream kernel, that is.
[02:30] <fabbione> yeah i will mail davem tomorrow.. mind if i add you in CC?
[02:31] <jbailey> Not at all.
[02:31] <fabbione> ok
[02:31] <fabbione> just because if he starts asking too many specific questions, i might not be able to answer in details
[02:32] <jbailey> Totally no worries.  I can see what the problem is.  I suspect if I knew anything about signal internals in the kernel I could find the answer really quickly.
[02:32] <fabbione> well.. this should push you to a new challenge.. learn the signal internals in the kernel :)
[02:33] <jbailey> Et tu, Brutes?
[02:33] <fabbione> ehehe
[02:33] <fabbione> anyway.. wife is awake...
[02:33] <fabbione> time to start doing stuff around the house
[02:33] <jbailey> Go, before she delivers you to UDU in 6 boxes.
[02:34] <fabbione> ahahahha
[02:34] <fabbione> cya tomorrow
[02:34] <jbailey> 'bye. =)
[02:39] <jbailey> fabbione: If you happen to float by the terminal - Do you have the last successful log of glibc being built?  I'd like to see if the same testcases fail in each case.
[02:42] <jbailey> Ah, nothing like a 40 meg build log.
[02:43] <T-Bone> you perv ;)
[02:44] <jbailey> Once regex failure (timeout) and message queueing doesn't appear to timeout correctly.
[02:58] <jbailey> ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/sparc/lowlevellock.h:80:2: #error SPARC < v9 does not support compare and swap which is essential for futex based locking
[03:46] <lamont> T-Bone: step 1) fix the ftbfs in gcc-4.0 and glibc from breezy, building on top of hoary.  (glibc requires linux-kernel-headers, gcc-4.0 requires doxygen).
[03:46] <lamont> then it'll matter
[03:59] <T-Bone> lamont: i thought we were planning to provide clean hoary in the meantime...
[04:01] <lamont> T-Bone: yeah - I need to process the archive through, that's true
[04:01] <lamont> right now, I'm busy dealing with the fact that my entire body hurts.
[04:01] <T-Bone> lamont: you told me we would need to rebuild main too
[04:01] <T-Bone> lamont: oh? What happened?
[04:02] <lamont> 20kg on your back.  3 miles.  you have 45 minutes. you may begin.
[04:02] <T-Bone> interesting
[04:02] <lamont> not after the first 1/2 mile.
[04:02] <T-Bone> i wonder if that's any worse than carrying around 350kg of material as i did last week :)
[04:02] <lamont> heh
[04:03] <T-Bone> truth told, my body hurts too ;)
[04:03] <lamont> yeah
[04:04] <T-Bone> hmmm
[04:04] <lamont> as for the main rebuild, if you just remove everything but main from your sources.list, and then rebuild just main packages (since universe will fail to fetch source), those packages will be what we can use
[04:04] <T-Bone> lamont: i don't get it, doxygen is in your pool
[04:04] <lamont> doxygen from breezy is needed for gcc-4.0 in breezy
[04:04] <T-Bone> oh
[04:05] <T-Bone> ic
[04:05] <lamont> yeah
[04:05] <lamont> what I was trying to do last week was bootstrap breezy on hppa (while I was waiting for the builds on the other architectures)...
[04:05] <lamont> and gcc-4.0 and glibc are both ftbfs
[04:06] <T-Bone> sweet baby love :P
[04:06] <T-Bone> lamont: am i to fear the expect bug btw?
[04:08] <lamont> I'm running our 2.6.12_<IP_ADDRESS>-1-hppa64 right now... haven't decided if SMP is a factor in the failures.
[04:08] <T-Bone> lamont: so i want to build doxygen and l-k-h from breezy in a hoary chroot, and then build gcc-4.0/glibc in a polluted hoary chroot, correct?
[04:09] <jbailey> T-Bone: lkh doesn't care where it's built.
[04:09] <T-Bone> fair enough
[04:09] <jbailey> Linuxthreads suckage.
[04:09] <T-Bone> almighty fuck. I won't touch that :)
[04:09] <jbailey> We just need a merge from Carlos.
[04:10] <lamont> T-Bone: well enought
[04:10] <T-Bone> ?
[04:17] <T-Bone> bwahahaha
[04:17] <T-Bone> lamont: all main package needing build (those who aren't already in your pool) are all FTBFS
[04:17] <T-Bone> afaict
[04:19] <lamont> T-Bone: then I guess hoary is happy :-)
[04:19] <T-Bone> lamont: i've triggered a build just to make sure, but I think there's not much to hope
[04:19] <T-Bone> it's console-data/d-i/kde
[04:19] <T-Bone> basically
[04:20] <lamont> console-data I'll make sure we get one of, although I'm not too worried if we're a little bit out of date - I'll check the changelog to make sure I don't care.
[04:20] <T-Bone> ok
[04:21] <lamont> d-i built for me, but is kinda useless without all the module stuff...
[04:21] <T-Bone> it's not d-i which is missing, afaict. There are d-i stuff missing
[04:21] <T-Bone> eg
[04:21] <T-Bone> debian-installer/bterm-unifont_0.011 [-:uncompiled]
[04:21] <T-Bone> debian-installer/cdrom-checker_1.02ubuntu5 [-:uncompiled]
[04:21] <T-Bone> debian-installer/lowmem_1.06ubuntu1 [-:uncompiled]
[04:21] <lamont> ah, ok
[04:22] <T-Bone> 50 packages needs-build. I'll see what comes out once buildd has munched the list
[04:23] <lamont> I have lowmem built here, the others didn't come over with my mirrorring, it appears.
[04:24] <lamont> ah, I have cdrom-checker_1.02ubuntu5 built as well
[04:24] <T-Bone> heh, nevermind, i doubt they'll take much time to build :)
[04:25] <lamont> anyway, back in a few hours
[04:25] <T-Bone> cya
[07:38] <fabbione> jbailey: yes.. it's always in ~/logs
[07:38] <fabbione> jbailey: the biggest one is usually the success :)
[07:41] <fabbione> lamont: still around?
[07:42] <fabbione> jbailey: ah this one is interesting... hfsplus
[07:44] <fabbione> anyway i am off for dinner...
[07:44] <crimsun> bye
[07:44] <fabbione> there are only a bunch of packages that fails in main
[07:45] <fabbione> otherwise sparc is building universe already :)
[07:45] <crimsun> cool
[07:45] <crimsun> fabbione: I know of at least 3 excited ubuntu sparc users
[07:45] <crimsun> so you _do_ have a growing userbase :)
[07:45] <fabbione> are they using it, or waiting for it?
[07:45] <crimsun> one's currently using it right now
[07:46] <fabbione> ah rocking!
[07:46] <crimsun> (I pointed him to sparc.ubuntu.com a while back but alerted him to the pending change to ubuntu-ports)
[07:46] <fabbione> right..
[07:46] <fabbione> i am happy :)
[07:46] <fabbione> but i really need to go now
[07:46] <crimsun> cya :)
[07:46] <fabbione> cya tomorrow
[10:59] <T-Gone> lamont: http://archive.slashdirt.org/incoming/ <- main built from main, signed


[08:25] <mup> PR snapd#6468 opened: image: bootstrapToRootDir => setupSeed <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/6468>
[10:25] <mup> PR snapd#6469 opened: image,cmd/snap,tests: introduce support for modern prepare-image --snap <snap>[=<channel>] <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/6469>
[14:17] <mup> PR snapcraft#2451 closed: static: address black warnings <Created by cmatsuoka> <Closed by cmatsuoka> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2451>
[17:32] <r3-{s0urce> Hi, is it possible to run vmware workstation on ubuntu-core?


 I haven’t that Bios Update to do (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> Actually here it is. @I_it_depends_I: BIOS update might help some of your problems. https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/computers-it/samsung-galaxy-book-bios-update-ver-p17cfd-fails/td-p/5260416)
[11:42] <m_tadeu> hi...does kubuntu have a laptop mode?
 I used the flatpak and the snap same issue (re @IrcsomeBot: <oerheks> why flatpak, noson is available as snap https://snapcraft.io/noson)
 I try now sonos in wine but ibdont think its Working
[12:22] <mparillo> m_tadeu: There used to be a netbook configuration, mostly to save screen real estate, but that was a long time ago (Plasma 4?). Basically for other laptops functions like battery life, Kubuntu has nothing special. Upstream in KDE, you can see Power Management in System Settings and in the Kernel laptop-specific functions should be available automagically. Additionally, there are probably features like https://github.com/linrunner/TLP you can investigate.
[12:24] <m_tadeu> mparillo: sorry I just re-read my question....I meant tablet mode
[12:27] <mparillo> I do not know. A quick search brought up: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1406793/virtual-keyboard-for-kubuntu-22-04-preferably-suporting-wayland and https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/sg7s0i/kde_on_tablet/
[12:31] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:34] <m_tadeu> mparillo: thanks
 arraybolt, I succeeded  in reinstalling Pop!_Os, can i send you the link for the dummy output?
 these (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> @I_it_depends_I: The dummy output problem might be solvable if it's just missing firmware, so maybe trying "lspci | nc termbin.com 9999" and sending me the URL will help. Also do "sudo dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999" and send that link too.)
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[17:31] <user|13> Why Kubuntu is great?
[17:33] <Eickmeyer> user|13: Probably not a support question, but more of an offtopic discussion, so feel free to /join #kubuntu-offtopic and ask there. :)
[18:21] <user|21> im new to linux were should i go for help with my pc crashing while running games
[18:22] <enigma9o7[m]> best buy
[18:23] <user|21> im broke and they want money 😔
[18:26] <arraybolt3[m]> user|21: If you're using Kubuntu, this is the place.
[18:26] <arraybolt3[m]> If you're on a different Ubuntu flavour, #ubuntu may help, and if you're on a non-Ubuntu Linux distro, you should be able to find support options for your distro (or switch to Ubuntu depending on your preference).
[18:27] <user|21> im on Kubuntu but my pc wont run games without crashing
[18:28] <enigma9o7[m]> but it'll work fine as long as you dont play games?
[18:29] <user|21> i want to play games tho
[18:30] <arraybolt3[m]> user|21: What graphics hardware do you have?
[18:30] <user|21> i have an evga gtx 460 se and i havent been able o update my drivers i suppose that could be an issue
[18:36] <arraybolt3[m]> user|21: Open a terminal and run "sudo software-properties-kde", enter your password, then click the Drivers tab.
[18:39] <user|21> i see adittional drivers
[18:39] <arraybolt3[m]> OK, can you install any of them?
[18:40] <user|21> no
[18:41] <tomreyn> "The GeForce GTX 460 SE was a mid-range graphics card by NVIDIA, launched on November 15th, 2010." https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-460-se.c357 says 1 GB VRAM, GeForce 400 generation
[18:42] <tomreyn> chances are this is a legacy one
[18:42] <arraybolt3[m]> Hmm, it may be too old and the driver now unsupported, in which case, you have three options: 1, install an older Kubuntu. 2, find a patched driver from a PPA (not safe). 3, get a new computer.
[18:44] <user|21> its not on its latest driver that they last put out tho which is 390.151 i think
[18:45] <tomreyn> https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/legacy-gpu/ lists "GeForce GTX 460 SE"
[18:47] <tomreyn> GPU name: GF104, Fermi architecture (says techpowerup)
[18:47] <tomreyn> https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142 says "The Linux 390.* legacy driver series is the last to support GF1xx ("Fermi") GPUs. Support for new Linux kernels and X servers, as well as fixes for critical bugs, will be included in 390.* legacy releases through the end of 2022."
 Hello everyone 👋
[18:49] <tomreyn> https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/ states "Linux x86_64/AMD64/EM64T: Latest Legacy GPU version (390.xx series): 390.154"
 I'm Adarsh
 I'm a newbie to linux
 I recently installed kubuntu 22
 I was trying to install event calendar widget and got this error message
[18:50] <user|21> i have the 390.154 drive downloaded but not sure how to install it manually
 https://irc-attachments.kde.org/4fbb212b/file_58555.jpg
 What should I do to solve this bug (re @a_k_s_27: )
[18:51] <tomreyn> user|21: you should not install the one downloaded from nvidia.com. instead, use this one: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-390/390.154-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[18:51] <arraybolt3[m]> I've noticed that error quite a bit, and even got it myself. I think it's a regression in Kubuntu... and I just realized that could be a fatal flaw in developer land. Hold on, I need to test that.
[18:52] <user|21> thx ima install it
[18:53] <tomreyn> user|21: it should be available via apt in the restricted section now.
[18:53] <user|21> do i need to be in root
[18:53] <tomreyn> user|21: what do you mean?
[18:53] <user|21> sudo su
[18:54] <tomreyn> user|21: to do what?
[18:54] <tomreyn> you should normally work as a restricted user, not on a root shell
[18:55] <user|21> ok
[18:55] <tomreyn> sometimes you will need to run commands with root access, but that'll depend on what you're trying to do.
[18:55] <user|21> sudo apt nvidia-graphics-drivers-390 (390.154-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>) jammy; urgency=medium
[18:55] <user|21> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
 Heey (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> OK, can you install any of them?)
[18:55] <user|21> this happend
[18:56] <user|21> sudo apt nvidia-graphics-drivers-390 (390.154-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>) jammy; urgency=medium
[18:56] <user|21> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[18:57] <tomreyn> user|21: this is not how you install software using apt. you're probably rather trying to do something along the lines of: sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-graphics-drivers-390
[18:57] <user|21> oo
 arraybolt3
[18:59] <tomreyn> user|21: actually i guess it should be:  sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-driver-390
[19:00] <tomreyn> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia-driver-390
[19:00] <user|21> i think its working
[19:01] <user|21> do u think that will solve my issues with my pc crashing while runing games
[19:02] <tomreyn> maybe. we haven't really tried to find out what driver you were previously using, or what the causes of these crashes is. your graphics card will continue to be too slow to run many current games, but hopefully it will work stable after you installed this driver and rebooted.
[19:04] <user|21> tbh its not slow bc on windows it was runing well over 100 fps
[19:04] <user|21> im gonna reboot now
[19:12] <user|21> im back
[19:14] <user|21> im gonna run a game
[19:15] <mmikowski> user|21: Fermi was very well supported by Nvidia back in the day, far better than AMD support which was nearly non-existant.
[19:17] <mmikowski> So you should see frame rates close to Windows. Depending on the API (OpenGL or Vulkan),  Proton vs. Native, and the game, it may even be better.
[19:17] <user|21> g mod is working
[19:19] <user|21> is there a way to OC my gpu and cpu with a program like msi afterburner or yk how pop os has a cpu OC program
[19:25] <arraybolt3[m]> @Omar: Yes?
[19:25] <arraybolt3[m]> @a_k_s_27: This is a known bug in Kubuntu and the developers are working on a fix.
 👍 (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> @a_k_s_27: This is a known bug in Kubuntu and the developers are working on a fix.)
 Im oovaa (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> @Omar: Yes?)
 I changed my username
[19:41] <arraybolt3[m]> Ah.
[19:42] <arraybolt3[m]> I'm not sure what to do about that Meta key shortcut failure or the KDE Connect problem, sadly.
 Ok (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> I'm not sure what to do about that Meta key shortcut failure or the KDE Connect problem, sadly.)
 I wanna ask about when you stop a process in terminal with cntl+z how to continue it?
[20:12] <tomreyn> Omar: fg
 What? (re @IrcsomeBot: <tomreyn> Omar: fg)
[20:21] <tomreyn> that's a internal shell command, you can type it on your shell
[20:21] <tomreyn> it stands for "foreground". there is also "bg".
[20:23] <tomreyn> see also "process control" at e.g. https://ss64.com/bash/syntax-keyboard.html
[20:24] <tomreyn> your favourite shell's "man pages" will have a similar listing.
 arraybolt, if you are here and you want that, we can try to fix the audio problem
 I also have another problem: can’t show the battery percentage… Idk how to see how much battery is left
 https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-gpio/msg66048.html
 I found this but idk if it could be useful
 Hi everyone, I'm on the 20.04 version of kubuntu and I would like to upgrade to 22.04, do you suggest a clean install or even a version upgrade can be fine ?
[22:10] <Dragnslcr> Upgrading should work. It's best to wait until 22.04.1 is released, which I thought was supposed to be around now.
[22:13] <Dragnslcr> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-release-schedule/23906 says it's tomorrow
[22:40] <user|47> What is the latest version of KDE Plasma
[22:44] <user|47> =L
[23:32] <user|17> hi


[08:53] <mup> PR operator#835 opened: reinitialize charm on event in harness <Created by PietroPasotti> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/835>
[14:24] <mup> Issue operator#836 opened: Provide support for Juju secrets <Created by mthaddon> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/836>


[13:18] <mwai_kibaki> grantbow: Hi, how are you?
[13:18] <mwai_kibaki> as president, i want to speak to the ppl of kenya who use ubuntu


[08:18] <cjwatson> Laney: the data in http://orangesquash.org.uk/~laney/transitions/ocaml.html seems oddly out of date - for instance coq built everywhere hours ago
[08:21] <cjwatson> Laney: ah, never mind, sounds like there were publisher issues overnight
[09:46] <pitti> cjwatson: see #is topic -- mirroring has been broken for the last 12 hours, but ETA was said to be in 15 mins now
[09:48] <cjwatson> yeah, I caught up
[09:50] <Laney> looks like my transition tracking machine at home has packed up, sorry
[09:50] <Laney> will kick it tonight
[09:51] <Laney> oh wait, er, it's inexplicably back alive
[15:11] <ogra_> is there a release team meeting today ?
[15:24] <skaet> ogra,  no release team meeting today.   They'll resume next week.
[15:24] <ogra_> awesome !
[15:25]  * ogra_ will go to mow the lawn then :)
[15:25] <skaet> :)
[15:25]  * charlie-tca going to put down the weed killer while it is calm outside
[15:26] <highvoltage> hmm, I wonder if I joined the ubuntu-release list yet...
[15:27] <highvoltage> skaet: ah I see it still needs the description too
[15:34]  * skaet adds to list of things to look into on monday...


[08:35] <ybaumy> i need help with the OVF datasource http://pastebin.centos.org/876866/
[08:39] <ybaumy> smoser: you are here?
[08:45] <ybaumy> anyone ever used that OVF provider?
[11:22] <BloqueNegro> hi :)
[11:22] <BloqueNegro> i want to use cloud init on ubuntu 16.04 to enable a second interface on a newly created instance
[11:23] <BloqueNegro> any tips how to do that? everything i tried needs another reboot (e.g. using write_files to write to interfaces.d) or is ignored completly (e.g. a config file from the example i wrote to /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/)
[11:23] <BloqueNegro> it drives me crazy
[13:23] <smoser> ybaumy: are you trying to run on a cloud somewhere or just providing data locally ?
[13:41] <ybaumy> smoser: cannot get OVF to mount a iso at all. i am now switching to NoCloud datasource which atleast mounts /dev/sr0 find a user-data and meta-data file... but nothing happens
[13:41] <smoser> ybaumy: i'd suggest using NoCloud rather than ovf
[13:41] <smoser> but i'd be surprised if doc/sources/ovf/README does not work
[13:42] <smoser> and similar for nocloud
[13:42] <smoser>  https://asciinema.org/a/132013
[13:43] <ybaumy> 1. im not using ubuntu .. im using centos 2. like in the paste url earlier i just seems to recognize the OVF in datasource_list at all
[13:45] <ybaumy> ok that cloud-localds i havent done
[13:46] <ybaumy> and im using vmware
[13:49] <smoser> ybaumy: well... a.) try the copr repo to get newer cloud-init
[13:50] <smoser> b.) if it fails, run 'cloud-init collect-logs' and file a bug
[13:52] <smoser> ybaumy: i'd also kind of expect the openstack centos image to work with nocloud identically to how the asciicinema demo for ubuntu did
[13:53] <smoser> something from http://cloud.centos.org/centos/7/images/
[14:04] <ybaumy> smoser: thanks will try
[14:13] <ybaumy> works!!!!
[14:14] <ybaumy> i had that seefrom: None in there
[14:14] <ybaumy> and removed it to see what happens
[14:14] <ybaumy> that was the problem
[14:30] <smoser> ybaumy: so the centos image and nocloud "just worked" ?
[14:31] <smoser> i should make a ascii...spelling-thing of that too
[14:35] <ybaumy> no i have created a custom ovf image in vcloud director
[14:35] <ybaumy> i used copr cloud-init latest version
[15:01] <smoser> oh. ok. good.
[16:33] <blackboxsw> https://code.launchpad.net/~chad.smith/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/348000 is up for the azure case. I've not pushed logic to keep original fallback network_config  yet
[16:57] <blackboxsw> smoser: rharper ping when you have about 10 mins to talk upgrade path azure
[16:57] <blackboxsw> I added scenarios to the bottom of the doc https://hackmd.io/aODzXfa_TOikNtYBLt8erA?both
[17:10] <smoser> blackboxsw: i'm here.
[17:15] <blackboxsw> smoser: joining
[17:41] <rharper> blackboxsw: smoser still going ?
[17:41] <blackboxsw> yep join in on the fun
[17:41] <rharper> k
[18:19] <smoser> blackboxsw or rharper https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/348711
[18:19] <smoser> or powersj
[18:19] <smoser> that will go a long way to "fix" ing our gpg related errors
[19:22] <blackboxsw> couple comments on that branch https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/348711
[19:22] <blackboxsw> looks good thogh
[19:22] <blackboxsw> *though, take 'em or leave 'em as far as my suggestions
[19:26] <smoser> blackboxsw: https://hackmd.io/jlq3C4qbSgurZ_DZ5GTiuw
[19:27] <smoser> i updated the top hunk of that to use log2dch --hackmd
[19:27] <smoser> blackboxsw: in your suggestion of less try/except...
[19:27] <smoser> hard to read in line..
[19:28] <blackboxsw> ahh excellent on hackmd output
[19:28] <smoser> but i think that you'd have to pass in a "retries=(1)" in order to get a single run
[19:28] <smoser> in curtin's subp we do basically:
[19:28] <smoser>   subp() # first time
[19:28] <smoser>   for trynum, naplen in enumerate(...):
[19:29] <smoser>     subp other tries
[19:29] <smoser> i wanted to avoid the two 'subp' calls
[19:29] <blackboxsw> ohh shoot, right smoser yeah I only though through the retries part, forgot the initial :/
[19:29] <smoser> yeah. so that is why it is as it is.
[19:33] <blackboxsw> yeah oops, +1
[19:34] <blackboxsw> was thinking about appending to retries when enumerating, but that's just adding complexity in another place. :/
[19:35] <smoser> the way its done here is actually a way the read_url logic could have been done
[19:35] <smoser> the exception_cb stuff.
[19:36] <smoser> your iterator can be anything, and decide to exit based on other things
[19:38] <smoser> although the context of the exception is important there.
[19:44] <blackboxsw> smoser: that makes more sense, I was just thinking a bit too simplistically (heh, and incorrectly) there
[20:30] <smoser> blackboxsw: i think at one point you suggested dropping the minion integration test
[20:30] <smoser> is that right ?
[20:30] <smoser> because all it does is veriy we write files that we already unit test write
[20:31] <smoser> i'm looking at
[20:31] <smoser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1778737
[20:31] <blackboxsw> smoser: yeah I mentioned that it really doesn't do much more than unit tests and validate that the minion package was installed.
[20:32] <blackboxsw> we could tweak it to install salt server on the instance that then we'd actually have something to test (full integration there0
[20:32] <smoser> the easiest way to fix that specific issue is to just rid ourselves of that test :)
[20:32] <smoser> i'm not opposed to installing server and configuring minion to talk to localhost
[20:32] <blackboxsw> smoser: you could drop it for now, I'll file a bug for a real integration test and can assign it to me to resolve
[20:33] <blackboxsw> or you can assign the bug to me now and I can get it post this SRU. it'd be nice to not have a timing issue affecting CI, I didn't see how frequent the failure was
[20:33] <blackboxsw> reading the bug
[20:35] <blackboxsw> yeah I've seen those tracebacks fequently via journalctl. But was able to get a working minion talking to a non-local server fairly easily. it wouldn't be too hard to get that server setup locally for avoid a couple of the issues with trying to lookup a salt hostname etc.
[20:36] <blackboxsw> it didn't involve too much config, if we can write_files  to seed the expected client key
[20:36] <blackboxsw> ... in the server config
[20:37] <blackboxsw> smoser: yeah, I'm all for dropping the existing salt-minion test for the moment. it really doesn't do much. and can easily be referenced whenever we get to a better integration test for it
[20:52] <smoser> blackboxsw: ok. removal on its way
[20:55] <smoser> blackboxsw: https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/348719
[20:56] <blackboxsw> approved https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/348719
[20:57] <blackboxsw> BTW, having  a datasource express different scoped update_event lists it reacts to for 'network' vs 'storage' is making update_metadata and clear_cached_data logic a bit complex as we now have to determine what cached attributes to clear across an update_metadata refresh. it'll be interesting how this solutioon shakes out.
[21:01] <rharper> blackboxsw: hrm, AFAICT there are separate things;  1) what does the cached metadata look like (this should always match what we fetched from the service  2) what does the ds/cloud-init do when (1) is complete and ds is configured to apply the update ?
[21:03] <blackboxsw> +1 on part 1.    for part 2, right we need to (today) also set ds._network_config back to UNSET or None to ensure that the updated metadata cached gets propagated  to ds.network_config, instead of the cache value there too
[21:03] <rharper> hrm
[21:03] <blackboxsw> ... and we need to make sure get_data doesn't arbitrarily clear_cache_data on the _network_config attr by default
[21:03] <blackboxsw> because that would ensure any subsequent call to ds.network_config would get the 'new' metadtaa
[21:03] <rharper> well, I think we talked about decoupling the fetch of new data
[21:03] <rharper> from updating the ds object attributes
[21:07] <blackboxsw> correct there too, crawl_data(read)  vs get_data (persist). but in this case get_data doesn't persist the _network_config attribute, that is done within each ds.network_config call.
[21:08] <blackboxsw> so if ds.update-metadata is called with EventType.BOOT and ds 'network' scope wants to react to that event we perform the following:
[21:09] <blackboxsw> 1. get_data (which calls crawl_data)  clears the generic ds.cached_attr_defaults and persists new values to them.  2. clear ds._network_config so the next call to ds.network_config (note no underbar) will generate the network config from fresh metadata.
[21:11] <blackboxsw> if we don't clear ds._network_config on a datasource, then we expect that this datasource would continue to present cached original ds.network_config
[21:11] <blackboxsw> I should have a diff here locally that I can push in the next few minutes to better explain
[21:14] <rharper> yes, I see what you;re saying;  we may need to let network_config property be a bit more complex and ask the ds for other states; maybe it could choose whether render the current value versus re-rendering based on whether the refresh indicated new settings (and we've a event flag saying we need to update)
[21:14] <rharper> I much prefer the network_config property handler deal with clearing rather thant other parts of the object resetting it underneath
[21:15] <rharper> but let's see what you have in a diff and go from there
[21:20] <smoser> htis is interesting https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/job/cloud-init-ci/
[21:21] <smoser> the "averarge stage time" of the maas compat test either went up recently or is affected a bunch by the 700ms fails times
[21:21] <smoser> (it thinks average is 2m 3s, while reality seems more like 3m)
[21:45] <blackboxsw> ok finally pushed the changes to https://code.launchpad.net/~chad.smith/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/348000


[08:15] <mac_v> Hi all... why hasnt vuze been upgraded to version 4?
[08:26] <mac_v> nevermind... i got an answer in the -motu


[15:11] <FatPhil> Should this work with the latest lubuntu live ISO? - https://rudd-o.com/en/linux-and-free-software/a-better-way-to-create-a-customized-ubuntu-live-usb-drive
[15:12] <FatPhil> I know it says that the instructions have been superseded, but I'd rather not have to install some rando gui tool and all its gui deps if I can just use simple cli commands.
 thats a pretty old set of instructions.  doubt it'll work as intended since theres a ton of iso changes since 2009/2013.  you can try it but it probably wont work.
 customizing the ISO will also be pain because the isos now support self-tests i believe to validate themselves before use
 After my last updating (Lbuntu 22.04.3 LTS), now some bold fonts look quite ugly. Something like disabling "clear type" on Windows.
 Could it be related to LXQt 1.3.0?
 https://manual.lubuntu.me/master/3/3.2/3.2.2/appearance.html try changing font settings?
[23:28] <wxl> @Rodrigo you using backports?
 Yes (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> @Rodrigo you using backports?)
 Good point, I didn't remember the options include anti aliasing.
 Thank you, I'll try (re @lynorian: https://manual.lubuntu.me/master/3/3.2/3.2.2/appearance.html try changing font settings?)
[23:30] <wxl> @Rodrigo you might want to check with @tsimonq2. I seem to remember some chatter about fonts when he was working on backports
 That
[23:32] <wxl> i thought that was added to appease someone's feelings on fonts so it's interesting to see it disturbing others :)
 it's unfortunate that no preview is available... so it seems I will be spending some time trying different combinations😅 (re @lynorian: https://manual.lubuntu.me/master/3/3.2/3.2.2/appearance.html try changing font settings?)
 I actually use Ubuntu font all over the place. Can you clarify if I need to install/use another different one called 'ubuntu-classic-fonts'? (re @lubuntu_bot: (matrix) <kc2bez> I think the PPA has ubuntu-classic-fonts and it might be necessary to switch to them to get the older look back.)
 or maybe try installing gnome tweak tools, which I wanted to avoid if possible (re @Rodrigo: it's unfortunate that no preview is available... so it seems I will be spending some time trying different combinations😅)
 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fonts-ubuntu-classic/
 that one?
 yep, it seems to be the culprit
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/9c2fabd4/file_9853.jpg
[23:51] <wxl> seems to be yes
 yes, everything is fine now. Thanks a lot!!!
 no worries! Thanks! (re @lubuntu_bot: (matrix) <kc2bez> 👍 Apologies I had that order a little off on the package name.)


[15:03] <xsiddu> hi all trying https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch on qemu
[15:03] <xsiddu> everything went fine
[15:03] <xsiddu> but am not getting the logging screen
[15:03] <xsiddu> ?
[15:03] <xsiddu> what could be the issue
[15:09] <xsiddu> seems like am out of luck ... got no one to help me here :(


 Thank you for reporting.
[04:02] <dank101> IdleOne, no prob
[06:04] <chu> So, we removed his (l057c0d3r) ban yesterday on the assumption he understood why he was banned in the first place (which was "because he found amusement in trolling"), he just admitted to trolling, and like.... :(
[06:05] <Flannel> did we?
[06:05] <Flannel> fun stuff.
[06:05] <chu> Well, I did :(
[06:05] <Flannel> yes, I see that in my backscroll!
[06:07] <IdleOne> We could have ignored his initial comment and not egged him on
[06:08] <Flannel> eh, rww did that, but, still, "initial comment" was a troll, so.... it's not like he was prompted, he started on his own accord.
[06:09] <chu> (apply #'argument (every-troll-ever))
[06:11] <jussi> he doesnt seem particularly bad atm to me, but Ive only been glancing in.
[06:12] <Flannel> That's why I haven't re-banned him.
[07:05] <Myrtti> hi sazawal
[07:05] <sazawal> Myrtti, hi
[07:05] <Myrtti> sazawal: what's up?
[07:06] <sazawal> Myrtti, nothing much.
[07:06] <Myrtti> sazawal: so...?
[07:06] <sazawal> Myrtti, I have a question. Can you help me out?
[07:08] <Myrtti> dunno, chances are you might be asking on the wrong channel from wrong person, but in the end I couldn't possibly know if I can, because I'm not a telepath. try.
[07:09] <sazawal> Okay here it is, I have a python script which authenticates me and connects to the internet. When I press Ctrl-C it logs me off successfully. I want to end this script (log off) automatically when I shut down/reboot my computer. How can I do it?
[07:11] <Myrtti> yeah, wrong channel (this is #ubuntu-ops,  not #ubuntu) and definitely wrong person (as I don't know Python)
[07:11] <Myrtti> even #python might be better
[07:18] <sazawal> Myrtti, Anyways I got my answer in #ubuntu-server. Can you tell me why I am banned from #ubuntu?
[07:18] <sazawal> What could be the reason?
[07:22] <Tm_T> sazawal: seems that from that ip someone did join the channel and flooded nonsense
[07:23] <Myrtti> yup
[07:23] <Tm_T> aaand floodbot banned, and supposed to be taken away too, nice
[07:24] <sazawal> Tm_T, may be. Actually I am in my University's network, so external IP's of all the students are same if they are behind the same proxy
[07:24] <Tm_T> sazawal: yeah, our automated systems think they removed the ban already but it was still there
[07:24] <Tm_T> removed
[07:26] <Tm_T> sazawal: you can join #ubuntu now, anything else we can help you with? (:
[07:28] <sazawal> Thanks Tm_T, It is working now
[07:33] <Myrtti> sazawal: great! did you have something else to ask?
[07:34] <sazawal> no Myrtti , Thanks for the support.
[09:27] <DJones> Already quit the channel
[13:45] <niko> genii-around: mode/#ubuntu [+b *!*@*] by genii-around
[13:45] <gry> #ubuntu has *!*@* ban active
[13:45] <niko> i doubt that is what you want
[13:46] <gry> genii-around, ^^
[13:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> um, I can't send to channel #ubuntu
[13:46] <darthanubis> I have been in #ubuntu for the last few weeks only to find today I'm banned?
[13:46] <gry> thanks niko :)
[13:46] <darthanubis> guess I'm not the only one atm?
[13:47] <gry> should be solved now
[13:47] <niko> it's fixed, darthanubis
[13:47] <darthanubis> thx
[13:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> thankya, lol.
[13:49] <Myrtti> "oops"
[13:49] <genii-around> @comment 54997 Inappropriate name, disruptive profanity
[13:51] <genii-around> gry: Sorry, work required me... Did they leave before the kick took effect? This seems to happen to me sometimes, then the command alias has a blank where the nickname was specified
[14:01] <genii-around> OK, looks like my aliases for Quassel are probably not right... could someone look and maybe make recommendation?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5629200/
[14:02] <genii-around> ( I used the kban one just earlier)
[14:02] <gry> no, you banned first and then kicked
[14:10] <gry> that one works for me and i tamed it down a bit so you can /kban nick reason here, and have only 'reason here' as the remove message
[14:10] <gry> '/msg chanserv op $channelname ; /wait 2 ; /MODE $channelname +b *!*@$1:hostname; /wait 1; /quote REMOVE $channelname $1 :$2.. ; /mode $channelname -o $currentnick;'
[14:10] <gry> but i can't reproduce the issue so don't know how to avoid it reliably
[14:20]  * genii-around makes more coffee and studies http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[14:34] <Pici> genii-around: why? <genii-around> !badident > trapni
[14:35] <genii-around> Pici: --> trapni<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu-server
[14:35] <genii-around> <-- trapni<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit (Changing host)
[14:35] <genii-around> --> trapni (~trapni@gentoo/developer/trapni) has joined #ubuntu-server
[14:36] <genii-around> Crap. I wanted doublejoin
[14:38] <Pici> yah
[18:54] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777's quit message is somewhat amusing
[18:55] <Unit193> Hah, you've noticed?
[18:57] <genii-around> Dammit. RickRolled Again!
[19:01] <Unit193> You didn't check it out first?
[19:01] <genii-around> Unit193: Silly me.
[21:39] <bazhang> wow annoying
[21:47] <bazhang> he's just trolling
[21:47] <bazhang> no one could get that many !enter warnings and then do the one word per line
[21:48] <k1l> and magically things get fixes when he is asked for some output


[01:53] <beny> hi everybody
[01:53] <beny> i have a problem with the virtual box
[01:53] <beny> and this is
[01:54] <beny> whe i work whit my virtual disk in windows, it work good
[01:54] <beny> but in my kubuntu, it don'ts start
[01:54] <beny> whitch is the problem?
[04:38] <power> hi, ive a /backup mount point on fstab (a USB disk), which seems broken i guess, now i cannot boot (hangs at cannot boot /backup)
[04:38] <power> cannt mount0
[04:38] <power> mount*
[04:45] <twb> If it needn't be mounted at boot, add "noauto" to the fstab line
[04:46] <twb> Oh, and remember that in recent versions (ones that have a "mountall" daemon), noauto is actually overloaded to mean something completely different -- sigh.
[05:04] <power> edited fstab with some livecd
[05:04] <power> thanks
[08:24]  * RoyK += 0xc0ffee
[08:30] <jetole> Hey guys. Does anyone know if there is a way I can "preseed" a particular package when I am installing it? Kinda like what we do with preseeding but to use those same values to install a package on a already setup system and therefor skip the part where it asks us all the configuration questions when we set it up?
[08:47] <DGM> hey somehow my main drive is really full. I'm running console only (server). df -h outputs /dev/sda1              65G   59G  2.5G  97%. But i can't figure out what's using so much space. I have tried every main folder in / with sudo du -h, but nothing is bigger then 1gb... whats an easy way to determine whats causing this?
[08:52] <maxb> DGM: You might try 'lsof +L1' to check for deleted files being retainted because they are still open
[08:54] <DGM> maxb: hmm "30623787368     0 3017275 /var/log/kern.log (deleted)"
[08:54] <DGM> and also debug
[08:55] <maxb> 30GB logfile? ouch
[08:56] <DGM> maxb: hehe yea. Its a clean install i only use KVM with the drives for that on seperate harddiscs. Can i change this log behaviour somewhere?
[08:58] <DGM> maxb: figured it out. I had a bandwidth monitor that logged a bit more then i was expecting
[09:01] <DGM> maxb: thanks :)
[09:25] <eagles0513875|2> hey guys i need some help with mail. i followed the tutorials for postfix dovecot and squirrelmail, but im not able to send out going mail via smtp. this is the error i get 0 Can't open SMTP stream. i can recieve incoming mails just fine
[09:46] <jetole> DGM: actually use the du tool. There are better ways to do this then how I remember off the top of my head but I run du -h / to show the file size of all directories and when you find the big one, run du -h /that-directory
[09:46] <jetole> DGM: keep going down the directory tree till you find the big one
[09:47] <jetole> i.e. maybe /var is the biggest dir in / so then you run du -h /var and it says /var/log is the biggest dir in var so you run du -h /var/log and it tells you /var/log/mysql is the biggest did and thats where all your big files that are taking up so much space are
[09:47] <eagles0513875|2> hey guys do you know if there is a ppa somewhere that has a newer version of squirrelmail
[09:48] <jetole> eagles0513875|2: http://www.google.com/search?&q=ppa+squirrelmail
[09:49] <eagles0513875|2> ty jetole
[10:00] <_Techie_> eagles0513875|2, go go gadget brain
[10:00] <eagles0513875|2> _Techie_: haha
[10:59] <serard> Hello everybody
[11:02] <serard> I have a question regarding Ubuntu Enterprise and cloud. I want to create a cloud, and a generic VM that can be distributed to my clients to ease the use of the cloud. So basically they will install the VM on their computer, run it, and that's it. Then they'll be able to connect to this VM via www (lamp stack) and get access to services offered by the cloud. Is this hard to do ?
[11:03] <serard> "Is this hard to do ?" I'm talking about creating this VM with ubuntu enterprise, make it connect seamlessly to the cloud, etc
[11:04] <serard> Without having the user to be a linux-ubuntu  guru
[11:06] <serard> "Then they'll be able to connect to this VM via www (lamp stack)" > They'll be able to connect to the VM via local network, I mean
[12:00] <serard> No one there ? :/
[12:28] <RoyK>
[12:30] <jpds> I agree.
[13:22] <serard> :)
[13:23] <binBASH> all gone
[13:23] <binBASH> ;)
[14:26] <trogdoro> if I added my own key to authorized_keys and can successfully ssh to the box...
[14:27] <trogdoro> is there any reason I shouldn't delete the key that amazon originally put in authorized_keys?
[14:40] <Krazyderek> can i change the visible size of a samba share without having to change the partitions them selve's? i'm having issue's with photoshop saving to my ubuntu raid 10 fileserver
[14:40] <orudie> anyone here familiar with zoneedit ? I am trying to transfer some domains to zoneedit, but I don't see a place where to enter transfer auth. codes
[14:41] <sommer> ivoks: your office should be in Orlando this week ;-)
[14:42] <ivoks> sommer: not really :)
[14:42] <sommer> heh
[14:45] <\sh> mutt
[14:47] <\sh> grmpf...
[14:51] <sheetzam> ppetraki - server stayed up over night - think we're on to something
[14:52] <sheetzam> so next step is nosmp, but leave acpi on?
[15:02] <ppetraki> sheetzam, great news
[15:02] <ppetraki> sheetzam, yup
[15:13] <sheetzam> ok, set and waiting for it to crash now
[15:19] <JenniferB2> hi folks... how can I add stuff to the PATH variable from one script file under my home/scripts directory ?
[15:19] <JenniferB2> i do not like the bash.rc or profile.d stuff .. because I would like to centralize all my files into one place if I ever need to do simple backups
[15:21] <_ruben> JenniferB2: not sure i understand your issue. do you want to alter your $PATH for just one script?
[15:21] <_ruben> as in: within that script?
[15:24] <JenniferB2> _ruben: I want to change my PATH variable at login... I have previously done stuff like that from profile.d but after reinstalling ubuntu now, i realized that I forgot to copy that file before formatting.. and lost that file and other files spread elsewhere.. so I am trying to place my files in /home including these scripts...
[15:25] <JenniferB2> i could probably just call my scripts from profile.d.. but I was thinking that there is a command to install startup scripts
[15:38] <sjefen6> What is the easiest way to make a fresh ubuntu-server 10.10 install play an ogg stream to an audio output?
[15:40] <dlublink>  I want to create a bootable USB key using the mini 10.04 iso ( 12.5 megs ) instead of a full installer. But the usb creation menu doesn't seem to like the minimal installer and cat mini.iso >/dev/sdb1 works, but won't boot. Any ideas?
[15:41] <dlublink> Maybe the computer I am trying to boot with just doesn't work properly
[15:44] <ppetraki> sheetzam, still alive?
[15:44] <sheetzam> yup
[15:44] <ppetraki> let it go through lunch time
[15:45] <ppetraki> I think I know what happened, but need to run a few more tests to be sure
[15:45] <sheetzam> ok, glad to hear it
[15:45] <ppetraki> who make's this thing?
[15:56] <CharlieSu> Question about logrotate.  In my logrotate definition I'm doing '/usr/bin/killall -HUP rsyslogd' in the 'postrotate' directive.  I'm finding that the PID for Rsyslog doesn't change and that rsyslog will take ~30 seconds before it will start accepting messages again.  This is a centralized logging server that is getting logs from remote servers.  Any idea why it would take ~30 seconds after I run logrotate before rsysl
[16:11] <hallyn> kirkland: just a reminder, if you get a chance can you take another look at the natty kvm merge?
[16:11] <SpamapS> ;/win 21
[16:11] <hallyn> (though by now its been long enough that maybe i should grab the newer tag)
[16:15] <sheetzam> ppetraki - sorry was the "who make's this thing" aimed at me?
[16:16] <ppetraki> sheetzam, :)
[16:16] <ppetraki> sheetzam, server make and model
[16:17] <sheetzam> it's an e-racks quietized server
[16:17] <sheetzam> about 3 years old
[16:17] <sheetzam> http://eracks.com/products/Quiet%20Systems/config?sku=QUIET2
[16:17] <sheetzam> is the current version
[16:18] <sheetzam> gotta run to lunch, can get more details when I return
[16:22] <ppetraki> sheetzam, interesting, I wonder who the ODM is
[16:22] <ppetraki> sheetzam, still running eh?
[17:32] <alex88> hi, my vps isn't starting up..now it's mounted on /repair where can i find logs?
[17:32] <alex88> all files in /var/log has time before the restarts
[17:32] <alex88> it has been shutted down for "cannot allocate memory"
[17:49] <Error404NotFound> how long does it take to upgrade a typical LAMP server based on ubuntu from lucid to maverick typically?
[17:49] <Error404NotFound> :)
[17:54] <alex88> well, old pc? or fast machine?
[18:13] <consumerism> how can i troubleshoot users being able to login? what log file?
[18:29] <pmatulis> consumerism: /var/log/auth.log
[18:46] <consumerism> pmatulis: it's empty.
[18:47] <pmatulis> consumerism: is this a standard server install?
[19:09] <sheetzam> ppetraki - back
[19:10] <sheetzam> and the server has stayed up
[19:11] <ruben23> hi gys i freshly installed ubuntu server and when i get update still i get this issue -------> http://pastebin.com/1bRH1H4Y
[19:16] <pmatulis> ruben23: proxy issue?
[19:17] <ruben23>  pmatulis how should i correct this..?
[19:18] <pmatulis> ruben23: you first need to know if you are using a proxy on your network.  if so, get it configured so you can do what you want to do
[19:19] <osmosis> ive been googling for a few days, and cant find a clear answer on if  Win2k3 as a guest should use ACPI, APIC,and or PAE.
[19:23] <RoyK> osmosis: just a guess, but ACPI and APIC should be there, where PAE shouldn't be needed if on a 64bit platform
[19:24] <latenite> Hi folks, why is "df -T" now showing the filesystemtype? http://pastie.org/1258579
[19:24] <osmosis> RoyK, ive read that ACPI can slow it down a lot, and that PAE actually helps on 64 bit systems.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kvm/+bug/105195/comments/50
[19:25] <RoyK> osmosis: erm - PAE is a 32bit thing - if both host and guest are 64bit, PAE doesn't matter
[19:25] <ruben23> pmatulis: what to configure on it, yes i got procy server on my network..
[19:26] <osmosis> RoyK, ahh..guest is 32 bit though
[19:26] <RoyK> osmosis: how much guest memory?
[19:26] <pmatulis> ruben23: that depends what kind it is.  maybe all you need to do is configure your local environment appropriately (credentials?)
[19:26] <RoyK> AFAIK win2k3 32bit doesn't support more than 3,5 gigs or so anyway
[19:27] <osmosis> RoyK, just a gig. way under the 4g mark.
[19:27] <RoyK> osmosis: then PAE isn't something you should worry about
[19:27] <RoyK> PAE = physical address expansion
[19:27] <RoyK> as in, for addressing >4gigs on 32bit
[19:28] <RoyK> s/expansion/extension/
[19:28] <osmosis> RoyK,  i know that, but its a glitchy work around i suppose. check out, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kvm/+bug/105195
[19:28] <RoyK> as with ACPI and APIC,  I don't really think it matters if they are enabled
[19:28] <osmosis> RoyK, see comment 50
[19:29] <RoyK> osmosis: ok - well - is this going to be a high-pressure vm?
[19:30] <RoyK> I don't use kvm for windoze stuff myself (we have hyper-v at work, and I just have linux VMs with my kvm setup)
[19:30] <latenite> anyone got a clue on my problem. Hi folks, why is "df -T" now showing the filesystemtype? http://pastie.org/1258579
[19:31] <pmatulis> latenite: well, b/c that's what -T does
[19:31] <osmosis> RoyK, high pressure?
[19:31]  * RoyK RTFMs latenite
[19:31] <latenite> pmatulis, b/c ?? what the meening of B/C
[19:31] <RoyK> osmosis: high load?
[19:31] <pmatulis> latenite: b/c = because
[19:31] <RoyK> latenite: because
[19:32] <latenite> ** TYPO now = NOT see my paste
[19:32] <osmosis> RoyK, not so much
[19:32] <osmosis> RoyK, 1 cpu should be fine
[19:32] <RoyK> osmosis: then it probably won't matter much
[19:32] <RoyK> osmosis: what sort of server? web server or something?
[19:33] <pmatulis> latenite: it is showing 'devtmpfs' as type
[19:33] <pmatulis> latenite: what's your problem?
[19:33] <osmosis> RoyK, yes
[19:33] <latenite> pmatulis, and above I reformated it as ext3...can you see
[19:34] <RoyK> osmosis: then just install it without any of those options and see if it works well
[19:34] <latenite> RoyK, no I NEED t show fs-type
[19:35] <RoyK> latenite: man df
[19:36] <latenite> RoyK, I read all of it. where am I fof track?
[19:36] <ppetraki> sheetzam, :)
[19:36] <ppetraki> sheetzam, so refresh my memory, what does /proc/cmdline say?
[19:37] <sheetzam> root=/dev/md2 ro nosmp
[19:37] <RoyK> latenite: fof track?
[19:38] <ppetraki> sheetzam, ok, replace nosmp with noapic
[19:38] <sheetzam> ok
[19:38] <pmatulis> latenite: why don't you try mounting your filesystem and *then* checking it?
[19:38] <ppetraki> sheetzam, I believe this will restore SMP but still use legacy interrupts
[19:38] <sheetzam> ok
[19:38] <latenite> RoyK, "of track" = where am I woring...why is it not showing "ext3"?
[19:38] <ppetraki> sheetzam, if this succeed's then it's likely ACPI that did you in
[19:39] <latenite> pmatulis, it is a handmade install scrpt...I dont feel willing to mount JUST to get fs.tyope....WHYT is the deal with df -T ?
[19:39] <ppetraki> sheetzam, so while your hardware stays the same, the ACPI_OSI_NAME advances to match the latest windows
[19:39] <sheetzam> I sorta follow
[19:39] <ppetraki> sheetzam, this causes different code to be execute from the ACPI runtime, just a bunch of tables provided by the firmware
[19:40] <sheetzam> ah, I see
[19:40] <sheetzam> and you suspect that one of those is now mapped incorrectly?
[19:40] <RoyK> osmosis: oh - I see
[19:40] <ppetraki> sheetzam, well, the new runtime code might have misinformed the kernel as to what it needs
[19:40] <RoyK> osmosis: might be a bug - which distro version is this?
[19:40] <ppetraki> sheetzam, which can cause all sorts of havoc
[19:41] <sheetzam> ppetraki - /proc/cmdline: root=/dev/md2 ro noapic
[19:41] <sheetzam> right
[19:41] <ppetraki> sheetzam,  so if noapic succeeds, acpi=noirq should be equivilent
[19:41] <ppetraki> sheetzam, then we can try pretending to be different versions of windows :)
[19:41] <sheetzam> ppetraki - succeeds as in crashes?
[19:41] <ppetraki> sheetzam, succeeds as in stays up
[19:41] <sheetzam> ok
[19:42] <ppetraki> sheetzam, we're isolating the code that deals with interrupt routing
[19:42] <sheetzam> got it
[19:42] <sheetzam> so far so good
[19:42] <ppetraki> :)
[19:43] <pmatulis> latenite: b/c that's the way it works
[19:44] <latenite> pmatulis, you saiy "I CAN NOT" determin fs-type of a unmounted partition with df -T??
[19:45] <pmatulis> latenite: that's right
[19:45] <latenite> pmatulis, is there ANY way to determin fs-type WITHOUT the need to mount
[19:46] <pmatulis> latenite: probably
[19:46] <latenite> pmatulis, would you know a way? and tell
[19:48] <pmatulis> latenite: query the superblock somehow
[19:48] <osmosis> RoyK, im on lucid
[19:52] <pmatulis> latenite: 'sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 | grep magic' then translate that number to what f/s it represents
[19:54] <latenite> pmatulis, wow cool idea. Now Where on my sysetm would I find such a list?
[19:54] <pmatulis> latenite: you've gone far enough.  please do some footwork
[19:54] <pmatulis> latenite: footwork = research
[19:55] <latenite> pmatulis, sure , ok. Thanks for the hint :)
[19:56] <pmatulis> anybody know why my preseeding install prompts for hostname when it got one from dhcp (host line)?
[20:44] <sheetzam> ppetraki - no crashing so far.  Figure let it run over the weekend, pick it up on monday.    Hopefully not the weekend!
[20:44] <sheetzam> yeah
[20:44] <ppetraki> sheetzam, great!
[20:45] <ppetraki> sheetzam,  so the good news is, even if we don't get a root cause, since you're running a server, you can probably run this way indefinitely
[20:45] <sheetzam> true
[20:45] <sheetzam> I'd rather have a solution, though :)
[20:45] <ppetraki> sheetzam, same here
[20:45] <ppetraki> sheetzam, so as long as you
[20:45] <ppetraki> re
[20:45] <ppetraki> willing to continue we can nail this :)
[20:46] <sheetzam> fortunately this is our dev box, but the prod box is the exact same hardware
[20:46] <sheetzam> yeah, be happy to
[20:46] <ppetraki> great
[20:46] <sheetzam> so far it's been pretty educational
[20:46] <ppetraki> I'm full of useful things, and something else, depends who you ask :-p
[20:49] <sheetzam> right
[20:55] <qubozik> Hi everyone. I'm trying to decide between RHEL and ubuntu. Can someone tell merge benefits of choosing Ubuntu?
[20:56] <qubozik> Me the*
[20:56] <qubozik> For a web server
[20:56] <RoyK> qubozik: we're moving all our linux boxes to ubuntu these days
[20:56] <RoyK> the reasons are diverse, but the most important reason is that ubuntu has more users, and thus bugs are found and fixed faster
[20:57] <RoyK> also, more packages are available, meaning no need for installing from source in most cases
[20:58] <qubozik> RoyK: Yeah I totally agree about the packages. That I agood point. Trying to get certain peel and php modules have been a pain in the past with RHEL
[20:58] <qubozik> Thank you for your reply
[20:58] <qubozik> I'm going to switch to ubuntu too
[20:59] <qubozik> At least run a test box for a bit
[20:59] <RoyK> qubozik: I still can't say I'm completely objective about this, having used debian/ubuntu for 10+ years
[20:59] <RoyK> but still, ubuntu is stable and works better than RHEL (IMHO)
[21:00] <RoyK> the LTS releases should be used, the non-LTS releases only have 18 months support
[21:00] <RoyK> and they aren't prirotitised like LTS releases support-wise
[21:00] <qubozik> I agree too. I use it on my desktop for quite sometime, but at work we use promary RHEL on servers. I was looking to go to ubuntu server but didn't know much about the server version
[21:00] <sheetzam> my company has been using Ubuntu LTS servers for 4 years now, and have no significant issues, and plenty of occasions when stuff just worked
[21:00] <qubozik> Yeah 10.04 is the latest LTS release right?
[21:01] <RoyK> yes
[21:01] <qubozik> Ok that's good to know
[21:01] <qubozik> Ok
[21:01] <RoyK> 12.04 will be the next
[21:01] <qubozik> Yeah in going to setup a test box and fiddle with it in our environment
[21:01] <qubozik> Ok that sounds good
[21:01] <sheetzam> be careful - test boxes turn in to production boxes very quickly and easily :)
[21:02] <qubozik> Are their PPA repos for server versions?
[21:02] <qubozik> For certain packages?
[21:02] <qubozik> Haha yes they do
[21:02] <qubozik> There*
[21:02] <RoyK> qubozik: I work for a research institute, and we have a bunch of researchers needing lots of packages not available on redhat and the likes
[21:02] <RoyK> with ubuntu, apt-get works well for 99% of those
[21:03] <RoyK> PPA?
[21:03] <qubozik> Ok . Looks like the best thing to do is try it out. Thanks for the great info
[21:04] <RoyK> the ubuntu repos are shared between the different distros (server, desktop ...) with the same platform
[21:04] <qubozik> Ppa repos. On ubuntu desktop you can add a ppa repo for an application. Like pidgin or banshee. Its a developmentrepo that jas the lasted version of the app
[21:04] <RoyK> ah
[21:04] <RoyK> ok
[21:04] <RoyK> yes, you can add custom repos
[21:05] <qubozik> So like it is doubtful that a long term release would upgrade php between major versions. So technically I couldadd a ppa php repo and ge the later version without installinghe latest ubuntu
[21:05] <qubozik> Ok cool
[21:05] <qubozik> I'll check it out
[21:06] <qubozik> Thanks again RoyK
[21:07] <ehcah> I am in the process of modifying one of my bind/zone/ files based on a tutorial I found.  It suggests the following line: "home.lan. IN SOA ubuntu.home.lan. hostmaster.home.lan."  When I modify it, I assume it should be: "mydomain.com. IN SOA myservername.mydomain.com. hostmaster.mydomain.com.".   What in this case, is the difference between "ubuntu" and "hostmaster"?  Is it redundant?
[21:10] <alex88> hi guys.. someone have ever seen a folder called mc-root?
[21:15] <highvoltage> yep
[21:16] <alex88> highvoltage, what's about? in tmp folder?
[21:17] <highvoltage> alex88: it's usually created by mc.
[21:17] <alex88> cause after a restart of my vps due high memory usage services not start..
[21:17] <alex88> network and ssh has to be started manually by vps hoster
[21:18] <alex88> highvoltage, and? who's that?
[21:24] <alex88> highvoltage, is that midnight commander?
[21:24] <guntbert> alex88: yes
[21:25] <alex88> guntbert, i've found that in /tmp and i haven't ever installed it..
[21:27] <guntbert> alex88: look who owns it, but usually you get that file when running mc as root, else it will be mc-alessandr (or whatever)
[21:28] <alex88> root
[21:28] <alex88> damn..
[21:29] <alex88> it says 20:28, but at that time the server was down..
[21:29] <alex88> probably virtuozzo repair mode creates that..
[21:33] <Sultan_Mirza> i have exim setup on ubuntu 10.04,  and i want to add some authentication rules any exim guru here
[21:34] <RoyK> Sultan_Mirza: I guess it'll be simpler to try #exim
[21:34]  * RoyK only uses postfix
[21:35] <Sultan_Mirza> well i tried it on exim but seems everybody is asleep there : )
[21:36] <Sultan_Mirza> RoyK: so i thought there must be someone familiar with these rules here
[21:36] <RoyK> sorry, I don't use exim
[21:37] <Sultan_Mirza> RoyK: yeah i got that but in case any here familiar with exim
[21:37] <Sultan_Mirza> http://pastebin.com/UP186itF this is the rule i applied in acl_smpt_rcpt
[21:37] <RoyK> sorry, I don't use exim
[21:38] <Sultan_Mirza> RoyK: ok
[21:38] <Sultan_Mirza> anybody here familiar with exim???
[21:39] <RoyK> you already asked
[21:41] <Sultan_Mirza> RoyK: sorry man
[22:11] <ehcah> RoyK:  I have to ask.  And I assume this will get me banned from this channel.   Do you hate your life or get beaten on all day long?  Anonymity is great, but can leave some people feeling a little over-empowered.  Whenever I've asked questions, or read you responding to others, I'm always impressed with your knowledge.  Heck, I respect it and have changed the way I do things as a result.  BUT - Have yo
[22:11] <ehcah> u ever read the tone of your dialogue?  Do you ever consider that those with less experience than you have tried other channels, google, linuxquestions.org or other medium before posting here?  I HATE posting in this channel.    I get that most of you are administrators and enthusiasts w
[22:11] <ehcah> ell above the level of hobbyist.  Tell me though...  Where else can one go to ask Ubuntu Server related questions?  If this channel isn't here for help, lock it down to an invite-only status.
[22:15] <_Techie_> ehcah, it may seem suprising to you, but we all started somewhere
[22:15] <guntbert> ehcah: although the level here gets very high sometimes this channel is for ubuntu-server discussion AND support
[22:18] <guntbert> ehcah: so don't expect as big a helper squad as in #ubuntu -- as to your last question .. consider asking in #bind
[22:21] <RoyK> ehcah: I really don§t understand what you're getting at
[22:21] <ehcah> guntbert:  I wasn't  concerned about the lack of response to my question. My feedback is based on the way another after mine was responded to.
[22:23] <RoyK> ehcah: wtf are you talking about, sir?
[22:24] <ivoks> ehcah: notice that UDS is this week
[22:24] <ivoks> ehcah: most of the people aren't there
[22:24] <guntbert> ehcah: I understood -- part of the problem (in tone too) seem to be that this channel has two purposes - discussion (mostly between "experts") and support - and its not always easy to switch between those
[22:25] <guntbert> RoyK: easy on the language please
[22:25] <_Techie_> also, none of us get payed for this, so its to be expected that we may occasionally use 'improper' tones (if you can call them tones in text based chat)
[22:25] <RoyK> guntbert: the language of mine is quite eased, but I still want to know why ehcah is so upset
[22:27] <guntbert> RoyK: its not for me to interpret his concern - but I can confirm that you sometimes tend to be less than polite :-)
[22:28] <ehcah> guntbert:  I don't disagree.  Maybe, and it would be up to those (as _Techie_) mentions willing to offer up their time to create a channel like #ubuntu-server-beginners.  I'm sure others like myself would respect the distinction between both channels.  Again, I certainly appreciate that no one here gets paid for support.  I did not to intend to insinuate, if I did, that each question deserves an answer,
[22:28] <ehcah>  simply because it was asked.  Everyone, please accept my apologies if that is how it was interpreted.
[22:28] <RoyK> guntbert: mostly I'm quite polite, I help out more than quite  a lot of others here
[22:29] <ehcah> RoyK:  I am slow to respond as I am trying to chose my words carefully.
[22:29] <RoyK> ehcah: I can't remember to have answered rudely to you
[22:29] <ivoks> there's no need for -beginners
[22:30] <RoyK> nor any others here, unless they ask questions repeatedly that are documented
[22:30] <ivoks> instead of looking at you guys outsmarting each other, it would be better to actually see *the question*
[22:30] <guntbert> RoyK: certainly you help a lot - appreciated :-))
[22:30] <RoyK> to ask people to RTFM now and then is normal
[22:30] <_Techie_> ehcah, -beginners is a good idea, but it would only overcomplicate things and make the support even worse
[22:30] <ehcah> RoyK:  It is not my intention to start a public debate.  I was simply trying to remind you that at the end of the day, people ask questions in this group because they have a similar interest.
[22:31] <RoyK> ehcah: I also ask silly question in here
[22:31] <RoyK> ehcah: I just don't understand why you attack me for being something speacial
[22:32] <guntbert> splitting up a channel that already has a very thin "helper population" would be a bad idea in my opinion
[22:32] <RoyK> #ubuntu-server shouldn't be split up
[22:33] <guntbert> RoyK: agreed!!!
[22:33] <RoyK> there are newbies here, sure, but most of them behave
[22:33] <ehcah> RoyK:  As an example.  Go up this thread about a page and a half.  Sultan_Mirza asked a question.  You responded that you didn't know his product.  Big deal.  When he asked the group again, your answer almost appeared to come from the group, rather than you.
[22:34] <qkumbers> does anyone know how to unconfigure an ldap client?
[22:34] <ivoks> unconfigure ldap client?
[22:34] <ivoks> which ldap client and what's there to unconfigure?
[22:34] <RoyK> ehcah: he asked for help on exim, got no answer, and went on asking, which isn't really netiquette
[22:34] <ehcah> I beleive the question was asked a second time because the individual would have felt the first conversation had ended, and needed to start again.
[22:35] <ehcah> just my 2 cents...
[22:35] <guntbert> qkumbers: please answer to ivoks
[22:35]  * RoyK hands back ehcah his 2 cents
[22:35] <qkumbers> ivoks: sorry, what i meant was, i set up an ldap server, then i configured another ubuntu server as a client. i would like to undo that configuration via auth-client-config
[22:36] <RoyK> ivoks: if it's PAM, it all goes in /etc/pam.d
[22:37] <ivoks> qkumbers: purge auth-client-config?
[22:37] <qkumbers> ivoks: is that a command or are you asking a question? if the latter, then the answer is yes
[22:37] <ivoks> qkumbers: i don't know exact command with auth-client-config
[22:37] <ivoks> qkumbers: i do know which files it changed
[22:38] <qkumbers> i wonder if there is a basic profile i can load with auth-client-config as opposed to lac_ldap
[22:39] <ivoks> there is
[22:39] <ivoks> qkumbers: try with lac_pam or lac_unix
[22:39] <qkumbers> also, there is a --reset option, but i don't understand if i still pass in a profile or not
[22:39] <ivoks> or lac_shadow
[22:39] <qkumbers> ivoks: oh ok, let me give that a shot, which would you recommend first?
[22:39] <ivoks> --reset probably does th trick
[22:39] <ivoks> did you read man page?
[22:40] <qkumbers> ivoks: yes, but i didn't understand at first, now i see an example
[22:40] <ivoks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AuthClientConfig
[22:40] <qkumbers> i think it is auth-client-config -t nss -p lac_ldap -r
[22:42] <ivoks> that should be it, yes
[22:42] <ivoks> or, better:
[22:42] <ivoks> auth-client-config -a -p lac_ldap -r
[22:42] <qkumbers> ivoks: ok, hopefully that doesn't hurt
[22:43] <qkumbers> ivoks: no, -t nss was the better choice it turned out
[22:44] <qkumbers> because the original command was run with that option
[22:44] <qkumbers> thanks for your help
[22:44] <RoyK> guntbert: if you're jalous about not knowing too much, please don't let that harm orthers
[23:49] <jdimatteo> hi all, I'm trying to setup NIS to better handle when the network connection drops.  How can I configure NIS to first check the local passwd file when logging in as a local user such as root?  I'd like to avoid the NIS timeout and warning/errors like "do_ypcall: clnt_call: RPC: Unable to receive; errno = No route to host"
[23:50] <jdimatteo> I'd really appreciate some help.  I couldn't find an easy answer on google, I'm sort of a linux admin newbie, and the NIS manualls are friggen huge
[23:55] <pmatulis> jdimatteo: edit /etc/nsswitch.conf
[23:56] <pmatulis> jdimatteo: man nsswitch.conf