[08:56] <dr_willis> !info xfte
[08:57] <dr_willis> !info fte
[08:57] <guideX> only beef I have with gedit, is the code looks ugly in other editors afterwards
[08:57] <iceroot> guideX: looks ugly?
[08:57] <dr_willis> wwhat a weird  'beef'
[08:57] <xinglenick> theadmin, my locale shows me LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8, LANGUAGE=zh_CN:en_US:en
[08:57] <guideX> the tabs and spaces don't look right
[08:57] <guideX> a beef meaning, I'm mad at it
[08:58] <dr_willis> set your edittors to show tabs the same....
[08:58] <iceroot> guideX:how a tab is displayed is part of the editor. in the text itself there is just a \t
[08:58] <iceroot> guideX: gedit is not changing the code
[08:58] <guideX> hmm weird
[08:58] <guideX> I wonder why it's so different then
[08:59] <guideX> when I get it back to any of the editors I'm used to, the code looks like it's all over the place
[08:59] <xinglenick> the zh_CN:en_US:en sequence is the same as "language support" shows
[09:00] <iceroot> theadmin: you are right, it does not have syntax-highlight
[09:03] <theadmin> xinglenick: Well, in desktop systems, use that app to change language preferences.
[09:06] <theadmin> iceroot: Also, I think gedit (as well as some other editors) replaces tabs with 4 spaces or such.
[09:06] <guideX> yeah I was really hopeing for an editor with configurable tab
[09:06] <guideX> so I can change it to two spaces :>
[09:06] <theadmin> guideX: You can try FTE or Geany
[09:07] <guideX> hmm ok
[09:07] <xinglenick> theadmin: i have just run sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales, and the command is successfully executed, but locale still shows me the same
[09:08] <theadmin> xinglenick: Again, if you are on a desktop system, use gnome-language-selector ("Language Support") to reconfigure languages.
[09:10] <sunsetlover> sorry guys my computer crashed so i didn't followed the answer about my question, so inform me if you get an answer
[09:13] <vrnithin> hi
[09:13] <donnie> No one seems to be alive in xubuntu. Does anyone here know how to do stuff to it if I describe a problem I'm starting to have?
[09:14] <theadmin> donnie: Well, describe it first
[09:14] <vrnithin> what to do when ubuntu installer is not detecting the free space ?
[09:14] <donnie>  I'm starting to run sluggish. All I have open is Chrome, and audacious. How come I'm freezing up, and my fan goes into crazy mode?
[09:14] <badday> vrnithin: tell some more details, please
[09:14] <badday> vrnithin: such as hardware configuration etc.
[09:14] <vrnithin> i was trying to install ubuntu 12.10 out side windows 7
[09:14] <theadmin> donnie: Open any kind of task manager and see what's consuming CPU time and memory.
[09:15] <theadmin> donnie: htop, for example
[09:15] <badday> vrnithin: that means that u have windows on one partition and some space free on the HDD?
[09:15] <guideX> is there a windowed task manager out there?
[09:15] <vrnithin> ya
[09:15] <donnie> theadmin: be nice if it'd stop bouncing around :)
[09:15] <guideX> I really miss "task manager" from windows
[09:16] <theadmin> guideX: Yeah, all Ubuntu versions come with one built-in.
[09:16] <badday> guideX: never say something like that on this channel, never!
[09:16] <vrnithin> badday: but i cant check select that free space for making a ext4  root and swap
[09:17] <guideX> oh didn't know about the built in one
[09:17] <badday> vrnithin: tell me something about the partition sheme of ur HDD please
[09:17] <donnie> Isn't swap supposed to be a way of allowing things to move around freely and not clog stuff up?
[09:17] <vrnithin> badday: i have 3 partitions in windows one C D E
[09:17] <theadmin> donnie: Sorta... But slowness is often caused by an extensive CPU use.
[09:17] <theadmin> vrnithin: Er. Are they all primary?
[09:17] <vrnithin> badday: ya
[09:18] <vrnithin> theadmin:ya
[09:18] <theadmin> vrnithin: Well then, you can only create one more partition, you don't have enough free partitions for two more.
[09:18] <theadmin> vrnithin: So here's what you do: make an extended partition, put the swap and root inside it.
[09:19] <vrnithin> theadmin: when i tried to create one partition from my free space its showing some warning about dynamic disc or something
[09:19] <donnie> I could use PCBSD.. I heard that's fast and light
[09:19] <nearst> guideX, try htop
[09:19] <theadmin> vrnithin: That doesn't tell me anything, I'd need the exact warning...
[09:20] <guideX> I like htop, but it'd be nice if it were a windowed app
[09:20] <theadmin> donnie: You could try Xubuntu. That's light. Or Lubuntu.
[09:20] <guideX> something with a real listbox
[09:20] <theadmin> guideX: Search for "Task Manager" in the menus. You most certainly have one.
[09:20] <donnie> theadmin. I am on xubuntu and that's why I'm surprised it's going sluggish
[09:20] <guideX> hmm ok
[09:20] <theadmin> donnie: Hm... yeah that's odd
[09:20] <theadmin> guideX: Well, if it's a default Ubuntu install, it'd be gnome-task-manager
[09:20] <theadmin> guideX: On Xfce it's xfce4-task-manager
[09:21] <theadmin> Err, xfce4-taskmanager
[09:21] <theadmin> !info gnome-taskmanger
[09:21] <theadmin> !info gnome-task-manager
[09:21] <theadmin> Eh.
[09:21] <guideX> when i type task manager  it doesn't come up
[09:21] <theadmin> guideX: Actually, it's gnome-system-monitor, my bad
[09:21] <guideX> in the dash menu
[09:21] <guideX> ah ok
[09:21] <vrnithin> theadmin: when i tried to create a partition in ubuntu installation time i cant select the free space
[09:22] <nearst> htop just cool
[09:22] <vrnithin> theadmin: is it because i have already 3 primary partition ?
[09:22] <nearst> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/how-to-use-xfce4-terminal-06x-as-drop.html << remember me of yakuake kde application
[09:22] <guideX> aha...
[09:22] <guideX> system monitor is good
[09:22] <theadmin> vrnithin: You have 3 primary partitions... That's too many, Ubuntu needs root and swap and root has to be a primary so...
[09:22] <guideX> has the list of programs, and a "kill it" button :)
[09:23] <theadmin> vrnithin: Well, you could do a manual partitioning and go without swap, if you have enough RAM for that.
[09:24] <vrnithin> theadmin: i have 4 gb ram
[09:24] <vrnithin> theadmin: but i cant even create root
[09:24] <theadmin> vrnithin: Well, that's more than enough. Just a side note, you won't be able to hibernate without swap.
[09:24] <theadmin> vrnithin: Huh. That's odd, to say the least. How much free space do you have?
[09:25] <theadmin> guideX: Just so you know, htop reacts to mouse input too
[09:25] <lundy> morning all, iv just installed Ubuntu 12 onto my Laptop, im just wondering how can i change this left hand dock
[09:25] <xinglenick> hi, theadmin i fixed it, i found my /default/locale changed, but i not sure it was changed by the gnome-language-selector or it was changed by dpkg-reconfigure locales because i had forgotten to check the contents of /etc/default/locale after ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure lacales
[09:25] <lundy> so that iv got icons left to right on my screen
[09:25] <guideX> well yeah, but system monitor was exactly what I was looking for
[09:26] <theadmin> lundy: Unfortunately there's no way to move the Unity dock around yet :/ Crazy thing.
[09:26] <vedic> If user forget password for ssh login and tries for say 10 times before successfully login, will denyhosts ban his ip address?
[09:26] <lundy> anyway of removing it or changing my desktop
[09:27] <theadmin> lundy: You can change your desktop. I suggest trying Xfce for an uncluttered user experience, click: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/xubuntu-desktop
[09:27] <guideX> oo geany looks nice
[09:28] <lundy> kk
[09:28] <theadmin> !purexfce | lundy, also see this for removing the packages from plain Ubuntu:
[09:29] <vrnithin> theadmin: 50 gb
[09:29] <theadmin> vrnithin: Huh. Okay, now I'm confused.
[09:29] <vrnithin> theadmin: i made that 50 gb by shrinking  of of my primary partition
[09:30] <vedic> If user forget password for ssh login and tries for say 10 times before successfully login, will denyhosts ban his ip address?
[09:30] <Rip003> how do I install the wifi drivers for my mac mini in ubuntu? I can't use ethernet as a heads up.
[09:30] <theadmin> vrnithin: Shouldn't matter where it came from :D
[09:31] <vrnithin> theadmin: why cant i do anything on that free space ?
[09:31] <xinglenick> theadmin: i changed the order of language via gnome-language-selector, then i ran sudo update-locale, but locale still not changed. Then I cat /etc/default/locale, i found the content was different from before: some other LC_* added, so i changed LANGUAGE to en_US:en:zh_CN  and sudo update-locale . now it work
[09:32] <theadmin> vrnithin: Honestly no idea.
[09:33] <vrnithin> theadmin: so whats to do to install Ubuntu ...i dont want it along windows
[09:33] <theadmin> vrnithin: So, you want to destroy Windows? Then just delete the Windows partitions (unless you have important data, then back that up) and install Ubuntu on the empty drive
[09:35] <lundy> im looking for cloud which offers great storage for free or very cheap... Google and DropBox just ant good storage for the price ...
[09:35] <lundy> anyone know any
[09:35] <vrnithin> theadmin: i want both..:)
[09:35] <Rip003> lundy: tried Ubuntu 1?
[09:35] <lundy> 5gb free ?
[09:35] <Rip003> lundy: yep
[09:36] <lundy> ill need like 300gb :/
[09:36] <xinglenick> theadmin: thank you for you help!
[09:36] <lundy> I did try "owncloud" and installed onto my web server... but the desktop client is crap for windows, dont think it will be much good on linux
[09:37] <Rip003> lundy: why do you need 300GB in the cloud?
[09:37] <lundy> Rip003, music, video, documents ...
[09:38] <Rip003> lundy: is it just to sync across your home? it might be worth looking at a router that hooks up to an external drive?
[09:38] <theadmin> Rip003: There's sparkleshare for syncing across computers without the need of actual storage. Part of the GNOME project.
[09:39] <lundy> Rip003, that would cost cash which I dont have at the moment
[09:39] <theadmin> Rip003: Or owncloud, for installing on your own server.
[09:39] <lundy> I used owncloud on my web server
[09:40] <lundy> but the windows client kept coming up "cannot sync a file"
[09:40] <lvx> this rocks
[09:40] <lvx> owncloud
[09:40] <lundy> just found that it wasnt up to the standard of Google Drive or DropBox
[09:42] <Rip003> lundy: I don't know what to suggest then, I can't think of a cloud service that'll offer that sort of space without charging
[09:42] <vedic> how to enable ufw on remove server? I am connected to that server via ssh and if I enable ufw, it will stop my ssh. Is it possible to allow ssh before enabling ufw?
[09:42] <lundy> Rip003, i was thinking about turning my old PC into a server but dunno if the WIfe will let me ... as it will bump up our electric bill
[09:43] <theadmin> vedic: sudo ufw allow ssh
[09:43] <vedic> theadmin: that will enable as well as allow ssh?
[09:43] <Rip003> lundy: you could do that I guess, you don't have to leave it running all the time just switch it on when you need it, a pain but saves the electric
[09:43] <vedic> theadmin: currently ufw is not active
[09:43] <theadmin> vedic: It won't enable UFW yet, just create the rule.
[09:44] <theadmin> vedic: You can enable it later.
[09:44] <vedic> ok
[09:44] <lundy> Rip003, was thinking that ..
[09:44] <theadmin> vedic: Just "sudo ufw enable" for that.
[09:44] <dydzEz2_> anyone here have a thinkpad x1 carbon
[09:44] <dydzEz2_> or anyone here dual boot iwndows 8 with grub?
[09:45] <vedic> theadmin: yea that has worked. Thank you
[09:45] <Rip003> lundy: that's more practical than forking out for masses of cloud storage and you already know it works
[09:46] <vedic> theadmin: How to disallow all other ports? ufw verbose shows that 22 is allowed from anywhere but no information about disallowed
[09:46] <theadmin> vedic: sudo ufw default deny incoming
[09:46] <lundy> Rip003, yeah but wot software would the server run off to have the cloud on it?
[09:47] <Rip003> lundy: you mean your old pc? haven't a clue, don't mess with networks an awful lot, don't understand ssh and all that jazz
[09:48] <lundy> ah kk, i know enough to get me past
[09:48] <vedic> theadmin: That has changed the default incoming to deny.  But ufw status or verbose shows only 22 allowed. No mention of any other thing
[09:48] <theadmin> vedic: Well, yes, that's how it is. Those are the rules you have, currently you have only ssh, that is, port 22 allowed for incoming, anything else blocked.
[09:48] <roger21> hey
[09:49] <vedic> theadmin: I see
[09:49] <theadmin> vedic: Creating rules for *every* port is just too much, so that's what the default rule is for.
[09:49] <vedic> ok
[09:49] <guideX> how do you setup a hostname in ubuntu?
[09:49] <vedic> theadmin: If user forget password for ssh login and tries for say 10 times before successfully login, will denyhosts ban his ip address?
[09:50] <guideX> in windows, I would edit the "hosts" file
[09:50] <roger21> the ubuntu installer seems to create mbr partion, is it a problem i i give him a gpt partioned disk (and so not repartitoning it at install) ?
[09:50] <llutz> !hostname | guideX
[09:50] <roger21> if i*
[09:50] <theadmin> guideX: /etc/hosts is the hosts file on Ubuntu. Same format as on Windows.
[09:50] <guideX> ah ok
[09:50] <guideX> cool thx
[09:50] <roger21> !gpt
[09:50] <Rip003> I hope to almighty Linus that this guide I found for my mac's wifi works
[09:50] <theadmin> guideX: Well, it's easier to just update /etc/hostname and reboot, it will auto-update hosts
[09:51] <guideX> that's what i'll do
[09:51] <BlackWeb> Does ubuntu12.04 use  lightdm as the default or gdm
[09:52] <theadmin> BlackWeb: lightdm
[09:52] <theadmin> BlackWeb: On Kubuntu, it's KDM, but lightdm for all others. Since 12.10, lightdm is default on all Ubuntu versions.
[09:52] <Rip003> oh you've gotta be kidding me
[09:52] <lundy> sorry to seem a noob here but iv installed Xubuntu desktop but dunno how to enable it
[09:52] <BlackWeb> I've been trying to change the login screen for a long timenow I've googled all possible solutions and seems like nothing works
[09:52] <Rip003> the b43-fwcutter deb packaged on the cd requires an internet connection?
[09:53] <theadmin> lundy: Log out, click the sessions icon, choose "Xubuntu Session" and log in.
[09:53] <lundy> :/
[09:53] <dydzEz2_> man i just want to load w8 from grub with xubuntu
[09:53] <dydzEz2_> this stupid UEFI thing is so annoying, id install windows 7 if this laptop didnt come with w8 and had a nice system recovery suite
[09:53] <BlackWeb> I'm using 12.04 so its uses it also  as default I have gdm installed If I was to remove lightdm then would I'd run into problems with the system?
[09:54] <theadmin> BlackWeb: No, there won't be any problem... Just make sure to keep at least some login manager installed
[09:54] <BlackWeb> Would lightdm be the problem to why the login screen wont change?
[09:54] <dr_willis> change in what way?
[09:55] <Rip003> guys how do I install b43-fwcutter offline?
[09:55] <cocomo> hi, i extended path variable by include a .sh file in /etc/profile.d/ but the added paths in that file are not found when i do sudo [command], they work okay when i don't acces them as root
[09:56] <cocomo> btw i am trying to use 'go' compiler but it isn't found using 'sudo go' but 'go' works
[09:56] <theadmin> cocomo: You'd need to update the PATH systemwide for it to work with root, use /etc/environment for that.
[09:56] <cocomo> theadmin: okay ty
[09:56] <dr_willis> why would a compiler need to run as root?
[09:57] <theadmin> dr_willis: For crazy commands like "go get".
[09:57] <cocomo> dr_willis: it get the files from internet and probably saves it somewhere the root has only access to
[09:57] <theadmin> dr_willis: Compilers nowadays :/ They come with package managers, debuggers, crazy stuff
[09:57] <dr_willis> no idea what go is then. ;)
[09:57] <dr_willis> !info go
[09:57] <dr_willis> go is a no go
[09:57] <theadmin> dr_willis: The compiler for Google's "go" language. I don't think it's in the repos.
[09:58] <cocomo> dr_willis: it is golang compiler and i use command go get
[09:58] <cocomo> ur right
[09:58]  * dr_willis sticks to Scratch
[09:58] <dr_willis> !info scratch
[09:59] <dr_willis> its more my speed.. heh
[09:59] <cocomo> :D
[10:01] <Rip003> damn, I don't think this guide has worked
[10:01] <rigel> http://pastebin.com/HJRVzksB
[10:01] <rigel> i have no idea how to fucking fix this
[10:01] <rigel> help me
[10:01] <rigel> because the bluez fuckasses wont
[10:01] <FloodBot1> rigel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:01] <Tm_T> rigel: please language and patience
[10:01] <roger21> the ubuntu installer seems to create mbr partion, is it a problem if i give him a gpt partioned disk (and so not repartitoning it at install) ?
[10:02] <dr_willis> if the disk is alllready partioned i would think it would keep the type
[10:02] <Rip003> how do I install b43-fwcutter offline?
[10:02] <dr_willis> you can install to gpt partioned disks from what ive seen..  - never really tried it here.
[10:03] <dr_willis> !b43
[10:03] <roger21> no of course, i meant could ubuntu could have general issue with gpt?
[10:03] <roger21> ok
[10:03] <roger21> we should
[10:04] <dr_willis> Rip003:  the askubuntu.com site may have a more spcific guide also.. I got a $5 usb wireless dongls that dosent need extra drivers.. so for a friends laptop with b43 i just used that dongle to get teh files
[10:04] <roger21> i don't get why ubuntu eliminates non-pae system and still use mbr by defayult
[10:04] <Rip003> dr_willis: but the drivers do work once they get installed?
[10:05] <dr_willis> Rip003:  i imagine it depends on your exact chipset.. those b4xxx can be a pain
[10:05] <Rip003> dr_willis: I think it's the 4301 in the mac mini
[10:05] <dr_willis> for under $20 you can get wireless dongles that are fully supported out of the box. ;)
[10:06] <dr_willis> got a 150speed one for $5
[10:07] <erupter> hi guys. If I make a clone of my ubuntu partition (which is not the only one on the disk, nor the first) to another disk to resize it and then copy it back, what do I have to be sure remains unchanged in order to boot?
[10:08] <Rip003> dr_willis: I have a dongle in the house, don't know if it's supported and I don't know where it is
[10:08] <dr_willis> make sure the uuids stay the same erupter
[10:08] <Rip003> dr_willis: I don't particularly want to have to buy one for the sake of installing drivers
[10:08] <dr_willis> Rip003:  came in handy on several  occasions here.
[10:09] <dr_willis> one of the best $5 i spent
[10:09] <Guest47388> Does anyone know why when I use x11 forwarding, it looks different than the same program run locally?  (the x11 version looks "older")
[10:09] <iceroot> erupter: the first 512bytes of the drive (not the partition) are important
[10:09] <iceroot> erupter: and of course the partition itself
[10:09] <dr_willis> Guest47388:  whats differnt? the fonts? the window decorations?
[10:09] <Guest47388> Both
[10:09] <Guest47388> even how bold the lines are in the application
[10:10] <iceroot> Guest47388: its using plain X instead of the theme and so on you are using normally
[10:10] <iceroot> Guest47388: so the theme on the real machine will not be used, its just plain x
[10:10] <Guest47388> Anyway to tell the server to use not plain x?
[10:10] <dr_willis> it uses the theme and settings on the local box? ive never really noticed
[10:11] <floridsdorf> hi
[10:11] <Sakki> howdy
[10:11] <Guest47388> Ok... so theme up the localbox... now that shouldn't be too hard...
[10:11] <dydzEz2_> has anyone with w8 dual boot used boot repair here
[10:11] <Guest47388> Thanks both of you!
[10:12] <badday> does anyone know the dpkg command for setting the default desktop manager?
[10:12] <erupter> iceroot, well say I change the number of the partition, would it boot?
[10:12] <Sakki> Question...is the UCP still an active cert?
[10:12] <erupter> iceroot, it would most probably also change the uuid
[10:12] <erupter> so that at least I must update in the fstab/boot config
[10:13] <iceroot> erupter: reinstalling grub after that i guess i needed
[10:13] <iceroot> erupter: and yes /etc/fstab also needs an update
[10:14] <FRIGN> hello
[10:16] <Tex_Nick> Rip003:  if you find your dongle this might helpto determine compatibility ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[10:17] <Rip003> Tex_Nick: pretty sure it's a TP-Link but dunno what model lol
[10:19] <Tex_Nick> Rip003:  i understand ... this lists TP-Link models ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsTP-Link#USB ... good luck :-)
[10:20] <Rip003> Tex_Nick: lol, found it, it's the model right at the top
[10:21] <Tex_Nick> Rip003:  jeeze you have good Karma ... had it been me ... would have been at bottom of a LONG list ... ;-)
[10:23] <Rip003> Tex_Nick: I just hope the wifi works once the drivers install
[10:25] <Rip003> Tex_nick: uh oh, looks like wherever it's trying to download the firmware from doesn't exist anymore, keeps timing out
[10:28] <cute_bettong> is the ati driver broken for dual monitors in ubuntu 12.04?
[10:29] <dr_willis> Rip003:  what ubuntu release?
[10:29] <cute_bettong> ubuntu 12.04
[10:29] <Rip003> dr_willis: quantal
[10:29] <dr_willis> hmmm.. odd
[10:30] <dr_willis> did yu do a sudo apt-get update first?
[10:30] <cute_bettong> join #ati
[10:30] <Rip003> dr_willis: it's not the ppa timing out it's this lwfinger.com where it's trying to download the tarbz2 from
[10:30] <dr_willis> no idea then.. could be the sites down. or somthing i guess...
[10:32] <Tex_Nick> Rip003:  you said the model was at the top of the list ... is it the TL-WN321G ?
[10:32] <Rip003> Tex_nick: yep
[10:33] <cute_bettong> hi im running a samsung chronos series 7 with 32 bit ubuntu 12.04 LTS and the os shows dual monitors but the amd catalyst drivers do not show any montors in the catalyst settings, is it broken?
[10:33] <Tex_Nick> Rip003:  ok let me give it a shot
[10:33] <Rip003> tex_nick: it works fine, problem now is the site for the b43 firmware is dead
[10:34] <dr_willis> cute_bettong:  ive seen some cases where you have to have bothj monitors plugged in  when you first power on the pc..  no idea if thats your issue or not..  also with some laptops i recall having to fiddle with the fn-whatever key to enable the external display
[10:34] <thomedy> hey i am setting my  my lamp install to run mails.. i have my ssmtp port to 465 and my path to/usr/sbin/ssmtp -t
[10:34] <thomedy> how close am i
[10:35] <Rip003> dr_willis: oh dear, just looked at the ppa and it hasn't updated for quantal, it's still on precise
[10:35] <thomedy> im using this http://mattsk.blogspot.com/2010/09/configure-lamp-on-ubuntu-1004-to-send.html
[10:35] <Kneferilis> hello, I want to improve my linux commands, bash shell scripting knowledge, but I don't want to get an extra linux pc or use a virtual solution like virtua box with a linux image or have a linux in windows solution, instead I want an account with linux shell access, what do you suggest?
[10:36] <cute_bettong> dr_willis, did you have to reboot after hitting the f-key?
[10:36] <POVaddct> Rip003: according to the tp-link website there are five(!) hardware revisions of the TL-WN321G
[10:36] <POVaddct> Rip003: which one do you have?
[10:36] <Kneferilis> I got myself an account at sdf.org and I liked it, but it was bsd after all, not linux
[10:36] <cute_bettong> dr_willis, i just tried that and catalyst still isen't showing dual screens any other suggestions?
[10:37] <Rip003> POVaddct: I've no idea but it works, problem is the site for the b43 tar is down and I don't know how to install it manually
[10:37] <Tex_Nick> Rip003:  were you trying that from the TP-Link Site ?
[10:37] <POVaddct> Rip003: here is how you can find out: http://www.tp-link.com.de/Article/?id=46
[10:39] <Rip003> POVaddct: it's v4 as shown
[10:40] <Rip003> POVaddct: Tex_Nick as I say though, the dongle isn't the problem, it's the site I'm trying to get the actual b43 driver tarball, keeps returning 404's
[10:40] <POVaddct> Rip003: i thought the b43 driver is for pci devices only
[10:41] <Rip003> POVaddct: it is, I'm using the tp-link dongle to get the network connection necessary to use my mac's inbuilt wifi
[10:41] <POVaddct> Rip003: ah okay
[10:42] <Rip003> POVaddct: I would try to get the firmware again but if the site is down then there's no hope
[10:43] <Tex_Nick> Rip003:  how are you connected to the net now ? ... on another box ?
[10:43] <veldmuijz> hi
[10:43] <Rip003> Tex_Nick: no I was using the dongle
[10:44] <veldmuijz> I need help recovering ubuntu after a testdisk mistake
[10:44] <veldmuijz> Can somebody help me?
[10:44] <zlszk_> #define NSMALLBINS        (32U),which  header file defined 32U?
[10:46] <POVaddct> Tex_Nick: the dongle works without problems (rt2870 chipset). he wants to make the internal broadcom card work.
[10:46] <thomedy> can someone point me to  a straight forward tutorial on setting up mail from my lampp install
[10:47] <thomedy> 12,04
[10:47] <veldmuijz> I need help recovering ubuntu after a testdisk mistake
[10:47] <veldmuijz> I need help recovering ubuntu after a testdisk mistake
[10:47] <veldmuijz> Can somebody help me?
[10:47] <FloodBot1> veldmuijz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:47] <Tex_Nick> POVaddct : ahhh ok i just woke up and popped into channel a bit ago ... missed some of that
[10:47] <drmagoo> veldmuijz > what is the problem ?
[10:48] <POVaddct> Rip003: i don't know much about the b43 firmware issue. i always try to avoid broadcom cards.
[10:48] <Rip003> POVaddct: Tex_nick: I've sent mpodroid guy a message, hopefully he'll get it and update the hosting service for the tarball, until he does that I'm stuck xD
[10:48] <POVaddct> Rip003: found this link: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[10:48] <veldmuijz> ok here is the problem
[10:49] <veldmuijz> i was recovering data from a 2 tb harddisk (xternal) with testdisk
[10:49] <veldmuijz> i used copy to copy all the data over to the my home partition in a backup file
[10:50] <veldmuijz> the external harddisk data was bigger then my entire harddisk partition for ubuntu and it has written all over it
[10:50] <veldmuijz> so when i rebooted the system couldn't load the gui anymore got errors
[10:51] <veldmuijz> i could get in the tty2 so i tried to recover my partitions to the old with testdisk
[10:51] <Fuzzles> Finally fully got rid of windows and did a full switch :)
[10:51] <veldmuijz> my partitions where all deleted except for my ntfs partitino (win7 dual boot)
[10:52] <Tex_Nick> POVaddct , Rip003 : that looks like a good link]
[10:52] <veldmuijz> only /sda6 remained and the ntfs partition
[10:52] <veldmuijz> when i scanned the harddisk it recognized my partitions so i tried to recovr it with testisk
[10:52] <veldmuijz> but after a reboot grub wouldn't load anymore
[10:52] <veldmuijz> so now i am at a loss
[10:53] <Rip003> Tex_Nick: yeah, sitting in their IRC now, if I knew where the package downloaded to then I could try finding it myself and inserting it but I don't
[10:53] <veldmuijz> currently on another netbook
[10:53] <veldmuijz> currently on another netbook/
[10:53] <veldmuijz> so can someone help me?
[10:55] <vedic> Is there any guide/tutorial on how to setup a minimal email server which allows sending of email but no receiving. I want to do it so that logwatcher can keep sending email automatically
[10:55] <drmagoo> veldmuijz > could you see all the data after the recovery ?
[10:56] <veldmuijz> i can see it from the livecd
[10:56] <shinao1> hi Im using 12.10 and i just installed enlightenment e17. But selecting it as a session does not work.. it just falls back to gnome-shell or unity. Please what am i doing wrong?
[10:56] <veldmuijz> i can see all the data /boot /etc and all that and  /home
[10:56] <Rip003> Tex_Nick: POVaddct: I've asked a question relating to the b43-fwcutter package too about the site, I'm sure somewhere there's a copy they can upload to a different service
[10:56] <drmagoo> veldmuijz > is /etc/fstab intact ?
[10:57] <veldmuijz> 'll check
[10:57] <veldmuijz> drmagoo > no it is not :(
[10:58] <vedic> It is better to setup a cron job which pulls the output of admin commands like logwatcher or denyhosts etc and place it in a directory which is sync via rsync?
[10:58] <vedic> instead of setting up a local email server?
[10:58] <drmagoo> veldmuijz > is it empty ?
[10:58] <veldmuijz> it shows overlayfs rw 0 0 and tmpfs /tmp nosuid,nodev
[10:59] <veldmuijz> drmagoo > no but close to it
[10:59] <wind_> Hi all, I can't setup twinkle under ubuntu 12.10. I need help!
[10:59] <Kala087> Hi can someone help me with upg
[11:00] <mtraker> hi
[11:01] <Kala087> With upgrading new Ubuntu
[11:01] <mtraker> I can't run X in live cd in ppc version
[11:02] <mtraker> I've a g3 and run ok the terminal but the X it's only a black window
[11:02] <mtraker> Can you help me?
[11:04] <wind_> i can't install twinkle uner ubuntu 12.10
[11:05] <vedic> I am getting this msg: you have new mail in /var/mail/tiger
[11:05] <vedic> What does that mean? and how to check that?
[11:06] <wind_> check "vi /var/mail/tiger" Ctrl+G (last line)
[11:07] <wind_> Twinkle under ubuntu 12.10... can't install, plz help)
[11:08] <Industrial> How do I replace openjdk-7-jre with the one from oracle?
[11:08] <eudmar> how do i make my ubuntu faster?
[11:08] <Industrial> eudmar, you buy better hardware. what kind of a question is that ..
[11:08] <vedic> wind_: use synaptic
[11:08] <wind_> eudmar, u can google this problem
[11:09] <vedic> wind_: what problem do you face?
[11:09] <eudmar> ok
[11:09] <wind_> vedic, i can'tinstall twinkle (softphone) under ubuntu 12.10.
[11:09] <wind_> it was removed from repository
[11:09] <Fuzzles> anyone know when steam for linux comes out of beat?
[11:10] <Fuzzles> beta*
[11:10] <vedic> eudmar: Increase RAM, reduce GUI effects, unnecessary packages and disable services do you don't need by default.
[11:10] <eudmar> I installed ubuntu, but it crashes, I installed another graph and not fought like kurumun, why?
[11:10] <wind_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/226360/ubuntu-12-10-how-to-get-sip-phone-twinkle-latest-version-working-using-deb-or
[11:10] <Tex_Nick> Rip003 : have you looked at this link ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/235049/my-mac-mini-late-2012-will-not-show-any-wireless-networks-ubuntu-12-10
[11:10] <vedic> wind_: What problem you face when installed that softphone? Did you try synaptic package manager?
[11:10] <eudmar> I have 4 gigs of ram
[11:11] <Tex_Nick> too late :(
[11:11] <wind_> no, i didn't
[11:11] <vedic> wind_: try that.
[11:11] <wind_> http://www.linux.org.ru/forum/general/8712808
[11:12] <vedic> wind_: only you can understand that page
[11:12] <Industrial> Why does ubuntu install OpenJDK with the package default-jre? I'm trying to run Webstorm, which warns agains openJDK, and it looks ugly as hell. not like in windows or OSX.
[11:12] <eudmar> TEM alguem Que Fala los portugês
[11:12] <Industrial> all rough edged fonts, chunky graphics from 1995 :(
[11:13] <wind_> i tried install it from deb,  libboost-regex1.46.1 dependency not found
[11:13] <eudmar> which the graph faster for linux? how to install
[11:14] <wind_> this package was removed in 12.10: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/quantal/universe/base/libboost-regex1.46.1
[11:15] <vedic> wind_: do you know anything about synaptic or apt-get? Why don't you try them?
[11:15] <Industrial> How do I switch from OpenJDK to NOT openJDK, whatever that may be? Can I install Oracle JDK on Ubuntu?
[11:16] <Industrial> http://images.gammatester.com/pics/87102b4307b07b4c3f5ff1ce13680784.png
[11:16] <Industrial> fonts look shitty with OpenJDK
[11:16] <Korny2> uninstall openjdk install oracle
[11:16] <Industrial> whats the package?
[11:16] <Industrial> the package default-jre installs openjdk
[11:17] <Korny2> Actually its been a while, if I remeber right there is a way to just choose what java you want ot use
[11:18] <Tex_Nick> Industrial : please keep the language family friendly ... we have kids here at times :-)
[11:19] <Korny2> Industrial, http://java.dzone.com/articles/choosing-java-version-ubuntu
[11:19] <Industrial> thanks!
[11:20] <Guest9988> can you tell me how to install java compiler in ubuntu
[11:20] <Guest9988> ?
[11:20] <luca> Installazione pacchetti Ubunto, messaggio "Richiede l'installazione di pacchetti non fidati"
[11:21] <Guest9988> luca tell me in english
[11:21] <Tex_Nick> !it | luca
[11:22] <test___> !mars | luca
[11:22] <test___> :-(
[11:22] <test___> Hi all!
[11:22] <test___> When will be 13.04?
[11:23] <theadmin> test___: April, 2013. That's what the version numbers mean, year.month
[11:23] <flcl> hello
[11:23] <test___> I know but alpha?
[11:23] <theadmin> test___: #ubuntu+1 for the discussion of unreleased versions, not here
[11:23] <mtraker> the live version for ppc is it only lubuntu ?
[11:24] <thoughtfulgoblin> hey i'm running apt-get upgrade and i get The following packages cannot be authenticated! for  libnacl-optimized.. now that sounds kinda scary for something that involves ACLs .. any idea why i'm getting the message, if i should continue or what i can do to fix the issues
[11:25] <lundy> hi guys just loaded xubuntu-desktop .... loaded it up and selected "blank profile" :/ how can i load the default template ?
[11:25] <theadmin> thoughtfulgoblin: Are you using any third-party repositories (aka PPAs)?
[11:25] <thoughtfulgoblin> I'm not sure, it's a default VM
[11:25] <thoughtfulgoblin> from my provider.. is there anyway i can check?
[11:26] <theadmin> thoughtfulgoblin: Is there anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
[11:26] <thoughtfulgoblin> pitti-postgresql-precise.list
[11:26] <thoughtfulgoblin> just that
[11:26] <theadmin> lundy: Well, you could remove ~/.xfce4/, but just right-click the panel and add whatever you feel necessary, that's more customization for you
[11:26] <thoughtfulgoblin> theadmin: inside that file it has deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/pitti/postgresql/ubuntu precise main
[11:27] <theadmin> thoughtfulgoblin: ...This repo is odd
[11:27] <lundy> theadmin, i want the default one as a template ...
[11:27] <theadmin> thoughtfulgoblin: But well, that's not what's causing the problem.
[11:27] <lundy> then ill customize it over time
[11:28] <theadmin> lundy: Then remove ~/.xfce4 and re-login
[11:28] <thoughtfulgoblin> theadmin: hmmm.. right it looks like that's what it's using for postgres.. but i thought postgres would be in the standard list of packages
[11:28] <lundy> theadmin, im not that good a this stuff just yet :P
[11:28] <theadmin> thoughtfulgoblin: "libnacl-optimized" is not in the default repos for Precise, so it must come from that PPA. Assuming that, it should be normal for such an issue to arise.
[11:29] <theadmin> lundy: rm -r ~/.xfce4 # Run this from a terminal
[11:29] <lundy> rm: cannot remove `/home/lundy/.xfce': No such file or directory
[11:29] <thoughtfulgoblin> theadmin: normal for it complain that it can't authenticate the pacakage?
[11:29] <thoughtfulgoblin> i'm assuming libnacl is for getfacl and setfacl
[11:29] <theadmin> thoughtfulgoblin: It's from a third-party repo, and it seems you just don't have the key for that repo. So yeah, normal.
[11:29] <theadmin> thoughtfulgoblin: Nah, those come from the "acl" package.
[11:30] <lundy> theadmin, would this be it? /usr/share/xfce4/panel
[11:30] <thoughtfulgoblin> oh :/ why would i have this thing installed then
[11:30] <theadmin> lundy: No, ~/.xfce4 (~ is your home directory)
[11:30] <theadmin> lundy: Oh, my bad, it's ~/.config/xfce4
[11:30] <thoughtfulgoblin> worked out what it was from :)
[11:31] <theadmin> God those people love to move things around
[11:31] <thoughtfulgoblin> some tunneling app called quicktun :)
[11:31] <lundy> lundy@Laptop:~$ ls
[11:31] <lundy> Desktop    Downloads         Music     Public     Videos
[11:31] <lundy> Documents  examples.desktop  Pictures  Templates
[11:31] <lundy> L(
[11:31] <lundy> :) lol
[11:31] <FloodBot1> lundy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:31] <lundy> sorry
[11:31] <theadmin> lundy: It's a hidden folder, ls -a to see it
[11:32] <Industrial> Korny2, that link only shows openJDK aswell, and I cannot find anything but OpenJDK in apt-get. Please dont tell me all java applications look this bad in Ubuntu: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/87102b4307b07b4c3f5ff1ce13680784.png
[11:32] <lundy> brb
[11:32] <Korny2> Industrial,  you need to install the oracle java then switch using that
[11:33] <skock> hi
[11:33] <Industrial> Korny2, that has been my question all along
[11:33] <theadmin> Industrial: I don't see anything that looks bad there... Also, yay, an i3 user :P
[11:33] <Industrial> how do I install the oracle SDK
[11:33] <Industrial> theadmin, the fonts are all jagged
[11:33] <theadmin> Industrial: Oh, you may need the Microsoft fonts, dunno
[11:33] <skock> anyone have the isight.fw file for the macbook 4.1 model? I replaced my osx and I didn't save it :( please help me
[11:33] <theadmin> Industrial: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[11:34] <lundy> theadmin, thanks
[11:34] <lundy> thats worked a charm
[11:35] <Korny2> Industrial,  if you plan on being sucessful with linux in general you will need to look things up for yourself, a quick google search revealed multiple pages on how to install it http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/10/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jre-7-jdk.html?m=0
[11:36] <Industrial> Korny2, hah, I've been using linux since I was 12. I was asking about the availability of SUN JDK in apt-get because I could not find it
[11:36] <dr_willis> !java
[11:36] <thoughtfulgoblin> how do you block all outgoing connections from a server so that someone with root access still can not make an outgoing connection? put it on a private network and proxy it?
[11:37] <theadmin> Industrial: Well, the Oracle/Sun java are not in the Ubuntu repositories
[11:37] <theadmin> Industrial: So you have to get them from java.com and manually install. Quite a bother if you ask me :/
[11:37] <Industrial> yeah:\
[11:37] <dr_willis> theres unofficial ppa's and repos that have scripts to automate it..
[11:38] <dr_willis> nice of oracle to be so supportive of linux
[11:38] <theadmin> dr_willis: Well, Sun had a partnership with Canonical which allowed them to provide Sun Java in the repos, but Oracle didn't prolong that.
[11:38] <theadmin> dr_willis: Or something along those lines I'm no lawyer, dunno the details :P
[11:38] <skock> anyone could upload for me the AppleUSBVideoSupport file for ubuntu? my macbook is a 4.1 model
[11:39] <dr_willis> the whole idea of 'you must download this from us...... even tho we give it away freely' is just silly
[11:39] <Industrial> dr_willis, corporate interest is usually silly.
[11:39] <Industrial> 'because some guy in a suit said so' :)
[11:42] <dr_willis> dont get me ranting on the current annoyance i have with coportate anti-copying meaasures on such Highly Pirated DVDs as... lets see..  'The Complet Collection of Ma and Pa Kettle Movies' i got for $4 at walmart..... but cant play it in any of my dvd players....
[11:42] <dr_willis> We all know all the kids want that disk!
[11:43] <dr_willis> makes me wonder how much they would charge if they dident have to license the DECSS and lame Anti copy  crud. ;)
[11:43] <POVaddct> content mafia.
[11:44] <Tex_Nick> skock : is this related to iSight ?
[11:45] <dr_willis> Hmm. I see i got a kernel update today.. and its also installing kernel-headers to match the kernel.. Now Just yesterday someone was having issues with his system NOT installing the headers for new kernels.. breaking his video drivers...
[11:45] <dr_willis> was he confused about this? or was it somthing other then headers he needed?
[11:45] <theadmin> dr_willis: The whole kernel upgrade mechanism on Ubuntu is quite odd.
[11:46] <theadmin> dr_willis: It might have happened that he removed linux-headers-generic (which is possible and does NOT remove the actual headers, just stops them from upgrading), so...
[11:46] <dr_willis> yea. i recall him saying every time he got a new kernel.. his X  or wifi drivers would break.
[11:48] <phoenixsampras> hi hi
[11:48] <skock> yes Tex_Nick
[11:49] <Tex_Nick> skock : see if this helps ... http://turanct.wordpress.com/tag/appleusbvideosupport/
[11:50] <skock> yes Tex_Nick  the link doesnt work
[11:50] <skock> :(
[11:51] <lundy> oh this is going to take some getting used to coming from windows :/
[11:52] <Tex_Nick> skock : you mean ... http://turanct.wordpress.com/tag/appleusbvideosupport/ ... doesn't work ?
[11:52] <skock> no Tex_Nick  i meant or you can download it from "here". (unzip this first)
[11:54] <Tex_Nick> skock : hmmm ... funny it worked for me
[11:55] <anoNxeRo> histo, when i tried to "update-alternatives --config python" on lucid i get this error "update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for python." can someone help?
[11:55] <thoughtfulgoblin> hmmm.. any idea how one is supposed to install google-v8 in ubuntu?
[11:55] <anoNxeRo> i have python 2.6 and 2.7 installed
[11:55] <bekks> thoughtfulgoblin: Whats "google-v8"?
[11:55] <thoughtfulgoblin> v8 javascript engine
[11:55] <thoughtfulgoblin> http://code.google.com/p/v8/wiki/BuildingWithGYP
[11:55] <oddbehreif> Afternoon, people. I need some help getting past an error that's stopping me from installing Ubuntu, should I bother you with this or the guys over at the non-technical Ubuntu education channel?
[11:56] <thoughtfulgoblin> bekks: i can compile it, but then i'm not sure what i should be doing then
[11:56] <Tex_Nick> skock : if for some reason you can't get the file, guess i could DCC it to you
[11:57] <ankr> Sooo... I had mounted a remote folder using sshfs and then my laptop ran out of power.... This is what I saw when I turned it back on: https://gist.github.com/cf46aa4aabc704d823d9
[11:57] <ankr> Any help is appreciated!
[11:58] <POVaddct> ankr: your laptop was the server or the machine your were running sshfs on?
[11:59] <xkernel> "Software Update" application showing more things to be installed than apt-get update!!?? now I upgraded from the command line but still the GUI app show other updates
[11:59] <dannymichel> This has never happened to me before. I installed OS X, then installed Linux, did GPTSYNC so I could install WIndows on a partition, and the Windows FAT32 placeholder partition I created was not showing in the WIndows setup. It was just showing the OS X partition and the windows partition as one lump of unalocated space. This is what GPTSYNC shows http://pastie.org/6032991
[11:59] <ankr> POVaddct, on my laptop I have sshfs installed which I used to mount a folder from a remote server.
[11:59] <skock> sorry Tex_Nick  it would be great! could you upload it on mediafire? im on a webchat
[11:59] <ankr> output is from my laptop
[12:00] <POVaddct> ankr: so the sshfs mount still existed after a power cycle of the notebook?
[12:01] <ankr> POVaddct, dev/ is a folder that always exists, it's just the target folder when I mount.
[12:01] <ankr> It's where I mount onto
[12:01] <erupter> pkg-config question: can anybody think of a way to justify the fact that I'm not seeing all the available libraries from a remote shell, while in local I see them?
[12:01] <POVaddct> ankr: you are mounting sshfs over /dev? what's the purpose?
[12:01] <skock> ssa
[12:02] <dr_willis> sshfs over /dev? that wouldent seem possible.
[12:02] <POVaddct> dr_willis: i thought so
[12:02] <dr_willis> I make a /home/username/SSHfs  for all mine to go into. ;)
[12:02] <dr_willis> and a script to remount them all when i login
[12:02] <llutz> dr_willis: POVaddct i guess he uses $HOME/dev   not /dev
[12:03] <ankr> POVaddct, ~/code/dev
[12:03] <POVaddct> ankr: ah okay
[12:03] <llutz> ankr: sudo fusermount -u ~/code/dev
[12:03] <dr_willis> here we are in a day and age when we can have 100000+ character filenames.. and people still use  shortcuts. ;)
[12:03] <POVaddct> llutz: i was just about to suggest that :)
[12:03] <oddbehreif> Does Ubuntu support installation on NTFS at all? I googled this but got a lot of mixed results to the point that it got outright confusing
[12:04] <POVaddct> llutz: but i still wonder why that mount still exists after the notebook was turned off
[12:04] <ankr> POVaddct, llutz that worked perfectly - thanks alot for your help :)
[12:04] <llutz> dr_willis: who wants to remember /path/thisisanonspeakingdirectorynamewithoutspacesjustbecauseicanuselongnames ?
[12:04] <llutz> POVaddct: the mountpoint always exist
[12:04] <POVaddct> llutz: but not the mount itself
[12:05] <llutz> POVaddct: ~/code/dev  is the mountpoint, not the content
[12:05] <Dark_Apostrophe> Hello, what's the best way to get up-to-date AMD graphics drivers without sacrificing apt-based updating?
[12:06] <Dark_Apostrophe> (Also, are the open source drivers or the proprietary ones better for video playback?)
[12:06] <POVaddct> llutz: i know that. but fusermount -u implies that a *mount* still exists
[12:06] <lolmaus> I've got an Ubuntu 12.04 Server headless box. After a hard-reboot, it displays a GRUB menu and won't boot until i attach a display and a keyboard and ask him to. How do i make him boot automatically even after a hard-reboot?
[12:07] <bel3atar> Dark_Apostrophe: proprietary are much better for anything and everything
[12:07] <dr_willis> or its clearing out some old stale settings/pid files for the fuser stuff...
[12:07] <Dark_Apostrophe> Figured as much - but more of a pain as far as updates go?
[12:07] <llutz> dr_willis: correct
[12:07] <bel3atar> lolmaus: you can configure grub from /boot
[12:07] <POVaddct> llutz: ah okay
[12:08] <dr_willis> Dark_Apostrophe:  just stick to the ones in the repos.. they should be the most useable and least prone to breaking.
[12:08] <llutz> !uefi
[12:08] <Dark_Apostrophe> dr_willis: Yeah, but they're choppy with HD video
[12:08] <l057c0d3r_> u want a pain during updage.. install gentoo :-p
[12:08] <dr_willis> Dark_Apostrophe:   theres no guarentee the newer will be any better.
[12:09] <dr_willis> or it may be choppy and not due to the ati drivers.. but compiz issues
[12:09] <Dark_Apostrophe> dr_willis: No, but with very new hardware, there's a good chance they may be
[12:09] <Dark_Apostrophe> Hmm... that's a good point.
[12:09] <dr_willis> with very new hardware.. you are going tobe prone to more breakage problems
[12:10] <Dark_Apostrophe> Is there a way for VLC to auto-disable compiz when it starts?
[12:10] <dr_willis> ati is not very good at supporting the latest hardware with their linux drivers.... or their old hardware....
[12:10] <dr_willis> ok.. lets just say it.. we are lucky any of their drivers work... ;P
[12:11] <Dark_Apostrophe> With the recent Steam announcement, one would think AMD would be throwing more weight behind Linux driver development
[12:11] <dr_willis> I think AMD may be in for a very rough road ahead
[12:11] <Dark_Apostrophe> They've been on a rough road for years
[12:12] <Dark_Apostrophe> Been declining since the Athlon XP era - with a brief glimmer of hope around the introduction of AMD64.
[12:13] <ioria> zykotick: i solved the issue with emacs in text mode: just 'emacs -nw filename' , no need to install emcacs-nox
[12:13] <l057c0d3r_> i've had good luck with my amd video card..  using the updated drivers
[12:13] <dr_willis> as for better video playback.. compiz has a vsync option ive used in the past to reduce tearing.. and vlc has some fliter options that i have also played with.
[12:13] <ioria> zykotick9: i solved the issue with emacs in text mode: just 'emacs -nw filename' , no need to install emacs-nox
[12:13] <l057c0d3r_> Dark_Apostrophe, i'm not sure of other ways of doing it.. but on my setup of gnome / cairo-dock i have a composit button on my system tray that i can click to turn compiz on and off...
[12:13] <dr_willis> I tend to not play many HD videos however.. and most of what i watch is anime.. :) so your settings may differ
[12:14] <Dark_Apostrophe> l057c0d3r_: How do you update them?
[12:14] <Dark_Apostrophe> l057c0d3r_: I'm running Kubuntu, though. Not sure if there's a KDE equivalent - but maybe the System Settings options would be adequate.
[12:14] <l057c0d3r_> instead if installing fglrx i installed fglrx-update
[12:14] <dr_willis> ive seen KDE widigits to turn on/off composit
[12:14] <l057c0d3r_> the compiz on off thing is a part of cairo-dock on my install
[12:15] <ioria> dr_willis: naruto ? :-)
[12:15] <dr_willis> ioria:  allready seen all those. :) watching Rock Lees adventurs now.. ;P
[12:15] <l057c0d3r_> honestly.. i leave my compiz on unless im playing a game..  doesnt seem to affect video
[12:15] <ioria> dr_willis: yappiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[12:16] <l057c0d3r_> and in the amd control center i leave antialis off.
[12:16] <Dark_Apostrophe> l057c0d3r_: What kind of card do you have?
[12:16] <SkySurfer> hehe
[12:16] <phoenixsampras> how to fix errors in a xfat partition?
[12:17] <l057c0d3r_> AMD RADEON HD 7660g
[12:17] <Dark_Apostrophe> Mine is 7660D
[12:17] <Dark_Apostrophe> Guessing they're almost identical
[12:18] <l057c0d3r_> Dark_Apostrophe, you have a desktop or laptop
[12:18] <Dark_Apostrophe> Desktop
[12:18] <l057c0d3r_> thats the difference'
[12:18] <Dark_Apostrophe> Oh
[12:18] <l057c0d3r_> i have the laptop version of that card
[12:18] <Dark_Apostrophe> Well, it's a trinity APU - could work in a heavy-duty laptop too, I guess
[12:18] <Tex_Nick> Dark_Apostrophe:  out of curiosity ... what amd/ati card or apu are you running ... i ask because i build some amd/apu pc's am interested in related problems
[12:18] <l057c0d3r_> Dark_Apostrophe, http://uppix.net/3/3/9/c5a976c8602d919bc628612eed78f.png :-) my setup running netflix
[12:19] <Dark_Apostrophe> Tex_Nick: A10-5800K
[12:20] <Dark_Apostrophe> I built a completely soundless system, no moving drives or fans; passive cooling. The only issue I've had so far is that the 150W PSU is probably insufficient, resulting in system crashes. Going to replace it once the manufacturer finishes their long-promised 250W model.
[12:21] <dr_willis> hmm.. Ok.. amazon is getting on my nerves.. trying to watch prime videos - they say 'dont use chrome' use ff.. well i was using ff.. now trying google-chrome and i get this...
[12:21] <dr_willis> If you're using the Chrome browser with Linux, you must disable PPAPI to continue using Amazon Instant Video. You can also use a different Web
[12:21] <Tex_Nick> Dark_Apostrophe:  ahhh ok thanks for the feedback ... FYI i,ve done a couple of cheap builds with that APU using a relatively cheap MoBo (ECS) they run 1080p videos without issues, while multitasking
[12:21] <dr_willis> What is PPAPI?
[12:21] <mehdi_> hey fellas installed my Nvidia graphic but when i goto dash menu its gets slow wat should i do?
[12:22] <Dark_Apostrophe> Tex_Nick: I've got a forum post and pictures of my setup, if you're interested
[12:22] <veldmuijzfromubu> drmagoo?
[12:22] <Visitor___> I at least partially figures out the problem. MBR partition tables want 4 partitions, but i have like 6. when i run gptsync, it finds my 3 linux partitions and the mac efi partition on top. is there a way to dictate to gptsync which partitions i want it to see for the mbr partition table?
[12:23] <Tex_Nick> Dark_Apostrophe:  hey would really like to have a look at that :-)
[12:23] <lundy> so in xchat is there a way to setup Auto auth to NIckServ?
[12:23] <dr_willis> lundy:   Yes.  its in the server se4ttings i recall. or you can do an on connect command
[12:23] <Visitor___> Please?
[12:24] <l057c0d3r_> lundy yes
[12:24] <lundy> cant seem to find it
[12:24] <lundy> oh wait
[12:24] <lundy> got it
[12:24] <Ben64> lundy: its where it says "nickserv password"
[12:25] <lundy> take it Connect Command is for auto join channels?
[12:25] <lundy> no wait fav channels is
[12:25] <Ben64> connect command is just that, runs whatever on connect
[12:26] <Qasaur> So I have the worst problem
[12:26] <Ben64> Qasaur: get a new computer
[12:26] <lundy> getting there :P thanks guys your very helpful :D
[12:26] <l057c0d3r_> Ben64, is there a way to make it wait a min before casting that command..  or making it do a command on channel connect instead :-p
[12:26] <l057c0d3r_> like a sleep() feature
[12:26] <bekks> Qasaur: What is "the worst problem"?
[12:26] <Visitor___> MBR partition tables want 4 partitions, but i have like 6. when i run gptsync, it finds my 3 linux partitions and the mac efi partition on top. is there a way to dictate to gptsync which partitions i want it to see for the mbr partition table?
[12:26] <Qasaur> Ben64,
[12:26] <Qasaur> well
[12:26] <Qasaur> Okay
[12:26] <Qasaur> this problem right
[12:26] <FloodBot1> Qasaur: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:27] <l057c0d3r_> because that has always been my issue with connection commands..  i guess i'm going to have to write a script for what i want to do :-p
[12:27] <bekks> !enter | Qasaur
[12:27] <Ben64> Visitor___: you might want to explain what that means
[12:27] <Qasaur> My built in soundcard won't work, I have to use my USB headsets because I  can't plugin my normal headphones into the headphone jack
[12:27] <Ben64> l057c0d3r_: possibly
[12:27] <Qasaur> This is a laptop by the way. Another problem is that the CD drive won't work
[12:27] <Ben64> Qasaur: thats not the worst
[12:27] <Qasaur> Ben64, well it worked on Windows but stops working on Linux no matter what distro I use
[12:28] <bekks> Qasaur: Which is neither vital, elementary nor "worse" :)
[12:28] <l057c0d3r> qasaur what flavor of linux are you using right now
[12:28] <Qasaur> Fine, :P
[12:28] <Qasaur> l057c0d3r, Ubuntu 12.04
[12:28] <l057c0d3r> hmm..
[12:29] <Ben64> i was imagining your computer got hit by some sort of nuclear device and had become sentient
[12:29] <l057c0d3r> i had sound issues with lubuntu..  but never on ubuntu.. have you checked alsamixer to make sure everything is unmuted
[12:29] <l057c0d3r> not sure if that is relevent on ubuntu though
[12:29] <phoenixsampras> how to fix errors in a xfat partition?
[12:29] <lundy> so thats OS installed and updated hmmm now wot apps can I install
[12:29] <bekks> Qasaur: Does it stop working or did it never work on Ubuntu?
[12:29] <Korny2> I know in older versions of alsa you had to configure it for a laptop type or it would play through both the speakers and headphones jacks hehe
[12:30] <Qasaur> bekks, never worked on Ubuntu
[12:30] <bekks> phoenixsampras: By starting windows and repair it from there.
[12:30] <l057c0d3r> and if you have an hdmi output on your computer.. make sure in the sound settings you have the hdmi output off.... and built in card enabled
[12:30] <lundy> Anti-Virus recommended for Ubuntu ?
[12:30] <Ben64> !virus | lundy
[12:30] <Qasaur> l057c0d3r, the built in speakers work
[12:30] <l057c0d3r> lundy clamav
[12:30] <lundy> <3 thanks Ben64
[12:31] <l057c0d3r> but it is really not needed
[12:31] <l057c0d3r> Qasaur, k..  so refresh my memory..  what is the sound not working on
[12:31] <lundy> kk ill leave it for now, anything I really should install ?
[12:31] <Qasaur> l057c0d3r, the headphone jack
[12:32] <yourimym1> help needed
[12:33] <_helios_> !ask | yourimym1
[12:33] <Dark_Apostrophe> Sending emergency kitten and chocolate to yourimym1
[12:33] <l057c0d3r> hmm..  odd.. when i plug headphones in it autoswitches to them.   always has..
[12:33] <yourimym1> :)
[12:33] <l057c0d3r> only time i have had issues is when pluging in my turtle-beach headset..
[12:33] <bonhoeffer> what should i format a drive to be accessible to mac and ubuntu (guid partition table)
[12:33] <bonhoeffer> ?
[12:33] <yourimym1> while opening my software center some of lables gets fuzzy
[12:35] <dr_willis> !manual | lundy
[12:35] <dr_willis> a copy of that ubuntu manual should be on every default desktop ;)
[12:36] <yourimym1> ??
[12:37] <ioria> yourimym1: can you be more specific, please ?
[12:37] <yourimym1> while opening my software center some of lables gets fuzzy  even texts while i browse anything , words gets pixelate until , ihover mouse over it , sry 4 bad english
[12:38] <ioria> yourimym1: did you restarted ?
[12:38] <yourimym1> alot :D
[12:39] <pengshao> ddd
[12:40] <Catbuntu> hi
[12:40] <yourimym1> hi
[12:40] <pengshao> hi
[12:40] <Catbuntu> I created a GPG key on another partition, can I "import" it to my other Linux partition?
[12:40] <Catbuntu> I mean, I have a Linux Mint and an Ubuntu partition.
[12:40] <bekks> Just copy it.
[12:41] <Catbuntu> Copy what?
[12:41] <Catbuntu> Is there some .gpg folder or something?
[12:41] <yourimym1> should i type my problem again , how things works here ?
[12:41] <ioria> yourimym1: launch the program from the terminal and it will display the issues
[12:42] <yourimym1> i mean the problem while i use it
[12:42] <xkernel> "Software Update" application showing more things to be installed than apt-get update!!?? now I upgraded from the command line but still the GUI app show other updates, why is that??
[12:43] <Noctifer> is it perhaps possible to get this annoying 12.10 to  disable bluetooth at startup? Is it *that* hard to put this option into the bluetooth settings??
[12:43] <Noctifer> but nice that there is a *shopping lense* now - things that are actually useless
[12:43] <yourimym1> anyone familiar with graphics issues here !?
[12:44] <l057c0d3r> yourimym1, depends.. what issue are you having
[12:44] <bekks> !anyone | yourimym1
[12:45] <lundy> :D loving this already ...
[12:46] <l057c0d3r> lundy :-)  yep me too..  especially after customizing it completely :-p
[12:46] <yourimym1> does anyone know , why some texts that appears in window label , or names of icon , or labels in software center , gets  pixelate, or fuzzy ? and it happen also in url bar while browsing , , ps; when i hover mouse over it turns okay
[12:47] <l057c0d3r> yourimym1, have you installed binary video drivers?
[12:47] <lundy> l057c0d3r, im still getting used to it but downloaded something where it puts menu bar at bottom and gives me a slight start menu like windows ... which is coming in very handy !!
[12:48] <l057c0d3r> lundy what flavor were you using again?
[12:48] <lundy> sorry im new tot his "flavour"
[12:48] <we6jbo> dosen't that have to do with something called anti aliasing or something I've seen in video games where the text isn't smooth
[12:48] <yourimym1> no x.org.x
[12:48] <l057c0d3r> ubuntu / lubuntu/ kubunut....
[12:48] <lundy> ubuntu
[12:49] <lundy> oh i think my battery in my laptop is dying
[12:49] <lundy> just pulled it off charge there and it shot to 39%
[12:49] <l057c0d3r> i see...  myself i installed lubuntu as a base..  removed lxde / openbox and lightdm ext ext. taking me back down to the kernel only...
[12:49] <lundy> within seconds it went to 38 and now is at 37%
[12:50] <nearst> aw. compiling source to package is not fun
[12:50] <l057c0d3r> maybe it didn't have a full charege to start ?
[12:50] <lundy> l057c0d3r, been on charge all last night
[12:50] <l057c0d3r> lundy after cleared it all off. installed gnome and cairo-dock.  use the cairo-dock(gnome) session.. and could not be happier
[12:51] <l057c0d3r> hmm that sucks.. sounds like battery is going bad
[12:51] <flintser> lundy: my old acer laptop said that its battery is damaged and only 27% of the full charge is left
[12:51] <Dark_Apostrophe> Oh, for those following the discussion about compositing some 10-15min ago, one can toggle it In KDE with alt-shift-F12
[12:51] <angs> I installed openssl by apt-get install. where does it keep the source files?
[12:51] <flintser> lundy: maybe your battery / mb doesnt support that feature
[12:52] <ioria> angs: etc i think
[12:52] <iceroot> angs: still in the repos
[12:52] <lundy> probally damaged its a old laptop
[12:52] <iceroot> angs: the source files are not part of a binary package, they are still in the source packages
[12:52] <iceroot> angs: apt-get source packagename to get the source-code
[12:52] <ioria> angs: sorry, the configuration files are in etc
[12:52] <bonhoeffer> is there a command like ls, but shows all the sizes of the directories
[12:53] <bonhoeffer> as in the size of the contents of the directories
[12:53] <flintser> bonhoeffer: ls -l
[12:53] <lundy> l057c0d3r, im not a fan of Docks ...
[12:53] <iceroot> bonhoeffer: du
[12:53] <angs> thank you iceroot and ioria
[12:53] <bonhoeffer> flintser, no, it shows all directory sizes as 4096
[12:53] <bonhoeffer> iceroot, thanks
[12:53] <bonhoeffer> iceroot, so the trick is to do du with one level probably
[12:54] <Ben64> du -h --max-depth 1
[12:54] <l057c0d3r> lundy, have you seen the screenshot of my box running netflix...  the docks are not quite what you may think with cairo-dock
[12:54] <bonhoeffer> Ben64, perfect
[12:54] <lundy> no i havnt seen it
[12:54] <Ben64> bonhoeffer: also ... "man du"
[12:54] <bonhoeffer> sure
[12:55] <flintser> this just camt to my mind, but is there a way to netflix without wine
[12:55] <flintser> came*
[12:55] <l057c0d3r> !nvidia yourimym1
[12:55] <yourimym1> does anyone know , why some texts that appears in window label , or names of icon , or labels in software center , gets  pixelate, or fuzzy ? and it happen also in url bar while browsing , , ps; when i hover mouse over it turns okay , using using x.org,xserver - nouveau display driver from xserver-xorg-video (open source)  , nvidia geforce gt N620 core edition
[12:55] <yourimym1> nvidia yes
[12:56] <l057c0d3r> !nvidia | yourimym1
[12:56] <l057c0d3r> lundy....  http://uppix.net/3/3/9/c5a976c8602d919bc628612eed78f.png
[12:58] <bonhoeffer> here is a tough one, any way to copy all image files (and their directory structure) to a new directory?
[12:58] <l057c0d3r> i have to admit..   i still like gnome after all these years..  however i hope they never get rid of there gnome(classic)  because i am deffinently not a fan of this metro style stuff
[12:58] <bonhoeffer> find . -iname "*.jpg" --exec mv {} /my/dir/ \; but that will only copy the files
[12:58] <bonhoeffer> move the files . . .
[12:59] <bonhoeffer> i'm pretty sure i need to write a script
[12:59] <Ben64> you might want #bash
[12:59] <lundy> l057c0d3r, thats cool
[13:00] <l057c0d3r> only reason i use ubuntu is for the kernel / apt
[13:00] <bonhoeffer> Ben64, agreed, but i might do it in ruby since i know that pretty well
[13:00] <l057c0d3r> and because of wubi
[13:00] <l057c0d3r> and apt is the big winner there....
[13:00] <Ben64> bonhoeffer: i meant the irc channel
[13:01] <l057c0d3r> i remove everything else that comes with it..  do what i want with the system....   but ubuntu..  is by far my fav system....   gentoo a close second... although a lot harder to work with...
[13:02] <yourimym1> #bash
[13:03] <lundy> http://postimage.org/image/89z48vxsp/ my setup
[13:03] <l057c0d3r> and thanks to ppa's  ubuntu gets another plus :-) the gnome3-team ppa makes gnome work better in my opinion
[13:04] <lundy> l057c0d3r, http://postimage.org/image/89z48vxsp/
[13:06] <l057c0d3r> lundy, nice nice.. what were you running again?
[13:06] <l057c0d3r> might replace my application menu with that one :-p
[13:06] <lundy> 2secs
[13:06] <jpds> !it
[13:06] <l057c0d3r> then this system will be amazing :-p
[13:06] <jpds> !ot | actually
[13:07] <Catbuntu> In which repositories is the "nitro" package?
[13:07] <Catbuntu> It doesn't appear at packages.ubuntu.com but it's at the software center...
[13:08] <Rabblerouser> So this is what my screenshots are looking like now http://i.imgur.com/cG7t5n3.png
[13:08] <lundy> l057c0d3r, cinnamon 2d
[13:09] <l057c0d3r> hmm....
[13:09] <l057c0d3r> might just have to replace my gnome with cinnamon for the application menu..
[13:09] <lundy> LOL Rabblerouser
[13:09] <Rabblerouser> :( is not funny. is bad.
[13:09] <l057c0d3r> would fit in better with the cairo-dock panels menu's that open
[13:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:09] <Rabblerouser> How would I get around fixing it?
[13:10] <lundy> l057c0d3r, gl
[13:10] <lundy> Rabblerouser, wots the problem with it
[13:10] <lundy> drivers?
[13:11] <Rabblerouser> I don't think my drivers are at fault.
[13:11] <Rabblerouser> I really don't know the issue
[13:11] <lundy> screen resolution?
[13:11] <Rabblerouser> 1366 x 768
[13:11] <vimerrrrrrr> anyone help me with the boot without full network configuration prob? any suggestions how to deal with that?thanks
[13:11] <bekks> Rabblerouser: Which graphics driver do you use, and how did you install it?
[13:13] <pje335_NL> hello all i got a question:
[13:13] <pje335_NL> wil Libreoffice be autoupdated to 4.0 wen it will be releast?
[13:13] <Catbuntu> One question.
[13:14] <Catbuntu> In which repo is this? https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/nitro/
[13:14] <Catbuntu> (deb line)
[13:14] <Rabblerouser> http://www.unixmen.com/ubuntu-12-10-and-amd-catalyst-problem-solved/ I used Tomasz's trick, outlined at the bottom there to install it
[13:14] <flintser> Catbuntu: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cooperjona/nitrotasks
[13:15] <xkernel> why software update in the GUI app shows more updates that are not shown by apt-ge upgrade?
[13:15] <flintser> flintser: sudo apt-get update
[13:15] <Rabblerouser> Sorry about the wait. I posted it in another IRC by accident.
[13:15] <Catbuntu> flintser, by default it's using the PPA?
[13:15] <Catbuntu> (I already know about the PPA, I mean if it's on some Ubuntu repository)
[13:16] <dr_willis> !info nitro
[13:16] <mpmc> Hey guys, I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my Thinkpad E525 (APU processor) all I'm getting is a scrambled screen, anyone have any ideas?
[13:16] <dr_willis> !find nitro
[13:16] <pje335_NL>  wil Libreoffice be autoupdated to 4.0 wen it will be releasd?
[13:17] <dr_willis> pje335_NL:  we really dont have inside info ;)
[13:17] <flintser> Catbuntu: if it is in software manager and you can install it it is somewhere in the default repos i think
[13:17] <dr_willis> pje335_NL:  you may want to check/post the question at askubuntu.com
[13:17] <Catbuntu> Yes, but the odd thing is that it doesn't appear on packages.ubuntu.com
[13:17] <Catbuntu> And the bot can't find it, too.
[13:17] <pje335_NL> ow oke i wil do that:)
[13:17] <pje335_NL> thank you for helping me out:)
[13:18] <flintser> Catbuntu: i dont know much about these things but maybe because it is proprietary?
[13:18] <dr_willis> mpmc:  tryed the nomodeset option yet? weird that an thinkpad would bneed it...
[13:18] <k1l> pje335_NL: new software versions come with new ubuntu releases. so there might be no update after that
[13:18] <Catbuntu> Yep.
[13:18] <Catbuntu> But where are the propietary packages?
[13:19] <dr_willis> where? if you add their repository. they show up in the package manager tools listings
[13:19] <mpmc> dr_willis: I have selected it in the other options at the install screen, but it doesn't have any effect.
[13:19] <pje335_NL> the propietary packages?
[13:19] <pje335_NL> k1l: so in 13.04?
[13:19] <dr_willis> mpmc:  there used to be a fairly active thinkpad forum on the ubuntu forums..
[13:19] <markveidemanis> Join #mtmt please
[13:19] <dr_willis> !backports | pje335_NL
[13:20] <dr_willis> pje335_NL:  or you could look for a PPA for it - if you need it badly enough
[13:21] <k1l> pje335_NL: if its released before the freeze for raring. yes
[13:21] <pje335_NL> next week i think :)
[13:21] <Rabblerouser> lundy, still there?
[13:21] <k1l> pje335_NL: best thing is to ask the maintainer
[13:22] <pje335_NL> i will update it mealnualy but i was just wondering
[13:22] <flintser> Catbuntu: dunno, tried searching my /etc/apt/sources.list but didnt find nitro in there
[13:22] <pje335_NL> manually*
[13:22] <Catbuntu> neither me
[13:24] <flintser> Catbuntu: i cnt install it from apt, but software manager sees it, so maybe it just adds the repo and installs it from there
[13:25] <xiaolindraconis> seednode:
[13:26] <flintser> Catbuntu: i'd just add the coopernoda/nitrotasks repo and install it from apt that way
[13:26] <Catbuntu> Yep, that's what I did.
[13:29] <Rabblerouser> Find it funny how I'm getting better support in a game's channel >.>
[13:31] <Ronalds_M> Hello, I have this amazing app called gbrainy, my native language isn't native in this app on 12.04, can I change it, somehow?
[13:38] <mike160> can anyone help me out am trying to install this program in ubuntu and i keep geting chmod: cannot access `/usr/bin/thumbnailme': No such file or directory when i do sudo dpkg -i Thumbnailme_2.1_i386.deb
[13:39] <bekks> mike160: Then it was not installed to /usr/bin/thumbnailme
[13:39] <Rip003> hey guys, I got my wireless working! :D
[13:39] <wsky> good for you
[13:40] <Qasaur> Rip003, awesome!
[13:40] <lundy> :) go u
[13:40] <mike160> bekks so what do i need to do to get this program install
[13:40] <Rip003> only thing not plying now is my magic trackpad :/
[13:40] <bekks> mike160: You just have to find out where it was installed to: dpkg -L Thumbnailme
[13:41] <Qasaur> Should I use XFCE4 or GNOME3
[13:41] <Qasaur> I'm on Unity at the moment and I want to change
[13:41] <Qasaur> but I can't decide between those two
[13:41] <auronandace> Qasaur: try both and see what you like
[13:41] <mike160> bekks when i do L Thumbnailme
[13:41] <mike160> i get
[13:42] <bekks> mike160: Use a pastebin please :)
[13:42] <Rip003> So how do I get this trckpad to work? Last thing I need before I use Ubuntu entirely.
[13:42] <mike160> whats a pastbin
[13:42] <dr_willis> !pastebin | mike160
[13:42] <mike160> ok
[13:43] <dr_willis> mike160:  where did this package come from?
[13:43] <mike160> !pastebin
[13:43] <dr_willis> mike160:  install the pastebinit command. it helps out a lot :)
[13:43] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[13:43] <mike160> i download it
[13:44] <dr_willis> mike160:  you downloaded it.. well.. yes...     and WHERE did it come from?
[13:45] <Qasaur> also
[13:45] <Qasaur> difference between Xubuntu and just installing XFCE?
[13:45] <auronandace> Qasaur: the default apps
[13:45] <dr_willis> xubuntu-desktop is the full xubuntu package.. with extras,,
[13:45] <dr_willis> things xfce may not include
[13:45] <Qasaur> well if I want to use XFCE
[13:45] <Qasaur> what should I download?
[13:46] <mike160> dr_willis from http://www.thumbnailme.com/
[13:46] <auronandace> Qasaur: xfce4
[13:46] <dr_willis> i would just install the xubuntu-desktop package
[13:46] <Qasaur> I want to completely replace Unity
[13:47] <ioria> Qasaur: there is also KDE out there
[13:47] <auronandace> Qasaur: don't bother removing unity, it will cause you headaches
[13:47] <dr_willis> mike160:  the current windows version of thumbnailme seems to be 3.0 while that linux deb is version 2.1  looks like it  dosent get much linux support...
[13:47] <Qasaur> auronandace, what do you mean?
[13:47] <Qasaur> ioria, KDE is a little too bloated for me
[13:47] <Qasaur> I prefer GTK antway
[13:47] <Qasaur> anyway*
[13:48] <dr_willis> Qasaur:  install the other desktops.. and try them... dont bother removeing them unless you get tight on hd space.
[13:48] <ioria> Qasaur: lxde maybe
[13:48] <Authoritaaa> where are my lulz im here
[13:48] <auronandace> Qasaur: just install xfce and use it, no need to remove unity (which will drag a ton of dependencies with it)
[13:48] <Qasaur> auronandace, I see,
[13:49] <mike160> yeah i know
[13:49] <dr_willis> mike160:  from the errors the software center just gave.. it seems the guy dosent know much about packageing things for linux..  if you need that app badly.. you could try the windows binary in wine.
[13:49] <mike160> but i had it install befor it just cant get it to work now
[13:50] <hillary> This is what i get when i start eclipse in ubuntu 12.04 "An error has occurred. See the log file
[13:50] <hillary> /home/hillary/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.7.0_155965261/configuration/1359899298456.log."
[13:50] <hillary> Where could be the mess?
[13:50] <mike160> i tryed the windows one with wine wont run
[13:51] <auronandace> hillary: read the log file
[13:51] <dr_willis> mike160:  well im not even going to try to install it here to test it... sorry
[13:51] <mike160> np
[13:51] <hillary> auronandace, I seem not to be understanding pleas
[13:51] <xkernel> why software update in the GUI app shows more updates that are not shown by apt-ge upgrade?
[13:52] <auronandace> hillary: you've just posted exactly where the log file is
[13:52] <auronandace> !dist-upgrade | xkernel
[13:53] <xkernel> auronandace, I didn't do dist-upgrade
[13:53] <xkernel> ubottu, !upgrade
[13:53] <auronandace> xkernel: i know, thats why i pointed it out
[13:54] <auronandace> xkernel: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade does more than sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:54] <Authoritaaa> sudo died a fatal death
[13:54] <xkernel> auronandace, and the GUI software update app executes dist-upgrade instead ?
[13:54] <hillary> auronandace, I have located what do i do with it?
[13:54] <auronandace> xkernel: i'd assume so yes, because that deals with dependencies
[13:55] <auronandace> hillary: its a log file, you read it
[13:55] <xkernel> auronandace, thanks. why the un-supported updates are by default checked in the software sources?
[13:56] <Li2ne> bonjours, j'ai un soucie pour lequel j'ai du mal a trouvé une solution en ligne
[13:56] <zykotick9> !fr | Li2ne
[13:56] <Authoritaaa> ove la foof
[13:57] <Li2ne> sorry
[13:57] <Authoritaaa> ove la foof
[13:57] <auronandace> xkernel: not sure sorry
[13:57] <Li2ne> I've a issus witout easy solution in online forums
[13:58] <teknokadim> hi people. i want to freeze system drive(sda3) and save all changes on sda4 (mounted on /overlay) so i think user overlyfs and use this command ( mount -t overlayfs overlayfs / -o lowerdir=/,upperdir=/overlay) is it false or have a bug. idont see /overly files in / and when i create file/folder it save on sda3 not sda4. can you how a idea?
[13:58] <Li2ne> I've reinstall my system with 'encrypte home' checked.
[13:58] <Li2ne> but /home was already encrypted
[13:59] <Li2ne> so now i cannot access my /home/login
[13:59] <Li2ne> i gess it's encrypted two time with two differents password
[14:00] <hillary> auronandace, Content of the log file is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1604516/
[14:03] <auronandace> try sudo apt-get install libswt-gtk-3-java
[14:03] <mike160> dr_willis do you know of any other program like thumbnailme that works well in ubuntu
[14:03] <auronandace> hillary: try sudo apt-get install libswt-gtk-3-java
[14:11] <linxeh> mike160: imagemagick probably
[14:11] <y2j> hi im trying to install the epson lq-300 esc/p2 any idea?
[14:11] <mike160> linxeh ok thanks
[14:12] <harkirat_> anybody on ubuntu 12.10
[14:12] <harkirat_> ??
[14:12] <linxeh> mike160: convert command will delegate to ffmpeg to extract frames from the video and output in the format you specify
[14:12] <ThinkT510> harkirat_: many are
[14:12] <harkirat_> i want the original sources.list
[14:12] <harkirat_> indian user
[14:13] <lundy> i am harkirat_
[14:13] <Guest11063> hi
[14:13] <Li2ne> i've found ecryptfs-recover-private
[14:13] <harkirat_> can u please mail me that at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:13] <Guest11063> wazzup
[14:13] <mike160> linxeh ok thanks again
[14:13] <Guest11063> gee
[14:13] <tdrusk> Hey guys. I am having some trouble with the netflix-desktop package. The playback is very slow and choppy. I am on a fresh install of Ubuntu. This is my lspci -v(http://pastebin.com/EfUkmCpw) and my dmidecode(http://pastebin.com/82iq9xLg). I feel like there is probably a bottleneck somewhere. Any tips?
[14:14] <ThinkT510> harkirat_: probably would have been safer to suggest a pastebin rather than post your email
[14:14] <harkirat_> pastebin?
[14:14] <eegore> anyword on whenthey are going to bring out the note II with Ubuntu preloaded?
[14:14] <Guest11063> madderchood
[14:14] <harkirat_> ThinkT510: kindly send me that some how?
[14:14] <y2j> how do i install the latest amd catalyst driver for workstation card?
[14:15] <y2j> using ubuntu
[14:15] <lundy> harkirat_, http://pastie.org/6033389
[14:16] <auronandace> harkirat_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1604574/
[14:16] <harkirat_> lundy: thanks :)
[14:16] <harkirat_> auronandace: thanks to u too :D
[14:17] <tokastas> ls
[14:17] <tokastas> exit
[14:18] <lundy> lol?
[14:29] <bonhoeffer> what would be the best way to image a usb drive into another (dd?)
[14:30] <bonhoeffer> i _think_ i backed up all the files from the usb drive, but i would like to image it as a backup just in case
[14:30] <BluesKaj> bonhoeffer, afaik dd should do it
[14:31] <bonhoeffer> thanks
[14:32] <JonEdney> Hey everyone.  I have /home and / on seperate partitions.  If I put the 12.10 CD back in to re-install, and select reformat for / but not /home, would that reinstall 12.10, but leave my homedir alone?
[14:32] <iceroot> JonEdney: yes
[14:32] <JonEdney> iceroot, Thank you.  I assumed, but wanted to confirm before I did the needful.
[14:32] <Dark_Apostrophe> bonhoeffer: If you want a more automated system, Clonezilla is also good. But probably overkill in most situations.
[14:32] <iceroot> JonEdney: on the partion-layout manager just say to use the old /home as the new /home without reformating
[14:32] <bonhoeffer> Dark_Apostrophe, thanks
[14:33] <Araneidae> Hi.  I'm trying to follow instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for AMD graphics (Xubuntu 12.10) and there's no option for "fglrx-experimental-X"
 yes. but you must partitioning manuel not auto
[14:33] <Dark_Apostrophe> Clonezilla Live is great for full-disk and partition backups. Used it to migrate a production Windows server from a dying disk to a new one (though it wouldn't work with RAID, apparently).
[14:33] <Araneidae> Are the instructions out of date, or am I doing something wrong?
[14:37] <shaokc> hello everyone
[14:37] <singharkirat> shaokc: hello
[14:38] <flcl> wazzzzup
[14:40] <l057c0d3r> is there a way to turn the fan speed up inside a lappy??
[14:40] <l057c0d3r> my lappy idles at around 39 to 50c
[14:40] <l057c0d3r> but when im watching netflix on it..  or playing a game..  it jumps to 70 to 80c
[14:40] <flcl> awwwww so cute
[14:41] <l057c0d3r> even with a fan under it
[14:41] <l057c0d3r> and i'm a little worried about it.. because the temp gauge redlines almost
[14:43] <Araneidae> Since when did Ubuntu start pretending it's Apple??  Whatever happened to progress reports and visible logs, when installing software, FFS?
[14:45] <solidoodlesuppor> Good morning Penguin people!
[14:45] <lightfritz> mornin
[14:45] <Cottus> is there a way to extract a single file from a tar archive?
[14:46] <flcl> ohayo! ^_^
[14:47] <flcl> total commander can do that, i think )
[14:47] <jrib> Cottus: tar xf archive.tar.gz file     I believe
[14:48] <zykotick9> Cottus: this page explains file/directory extracting from tar http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-extracting-specific-files/
[14:48] <Cottus> jrib: indeed
[14:48] <Cottus> thnx
[14:53] <Noaland>  done a recent apt upgrade, X won't start now : failed to initialize relative axis on my microsoft keyboard.
[14:53] <cgat> oi alquem ai pode me ajudar aconfigurar o ubuntu
[14:56] <solancer> hey guys quick question
[14:56] <compdoc> is there a package for linux OSes that allows specific services to run at boot, and prevent non-authorized services from running?
[14:57] <bekks> compdoc: Basically: no.
[14:58] <ThinkT510> solancer: i'm not sure your question is that quick...
[14:58] <solancer> I have 2 monitors connected to my ubuntu machine. How can I share a libre office document on both the monitors( left half on 1 monitor and right half on the other)
[14:59] <solancer> ThinkT510, I'm a sloppy typer
[15:01] <flcl> hey Justin )
[15:03] <fisix> juego ubuntu juego...
[15:03] <fisix> UBUNTU
[15:03] <fisix> ./ubuntu
[15:03] <fisix> ls
[15:03] <DJones> fisix: Wrong terminal
[15:03] <fisix> quit
[15:04] <fisix> exit
[15:04] <ThinkT510> fisix: /quit
[15:04] <SolarisBoy> ;>
[15:05] <escott_> solancer, LO has a side by side viewing mode and then you could just stretch the single window across the two screens
[15:07] <basso> how can i make my system use more ram?
[15:07] <basso> i have soo much ram now
[15:07] <bekks> It will use the RAM it wants/needs to use automagically.
[15:07] <ThinkT510> basso: it will be used when it is needed
[15:08] <escott_> basso, there are some kernel tunables related to how long things get cached, but usually you just install the ram into the computer and turn it on
[15:08] <y2j> need to intall catalyst driver ubutu
[15:08] <y2j> ubuntu?
[15:08] <basso> i have disabled swap, installed preload, mounted /tmp in ram
[15:10] <xkernel> how to import ssh key in seahorse?
[15:10] <nemo> So. Rhythmbox is refusing to rip. says I need to install something
[15:11] <nemo> so I click install, and nothing more happens. just repeats same message
[15:11] <wjtaylor_> I had a raid failure event. How do I diagnose the drive?
[15:11] <nemo> on a hunch, I fired up synaptic and installed the python ogg encoding package.  but that didn't seem to help, even after a restart
[15:11] <nemo> not finding too much in googling either.  any tips?
[15:11] <escott_> wjtaylor, smartctl in smartmon-tools
[15:12] <lundy> anyone know how I can fix this
[15:12] <lundy> updatedb: can not open a temporary file for `/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db'
[15:13] <escott_> lundy, you need to run updatedb as root
[15:13] <lundy> :P wait sudo updatedb
[15:13] <lundy> :/ my bdad
[15:13] <lundy> not used to this yet
[15:13] <escott_> lundy, i think its configured differently on fedora, but ubuntu/debian wants you to be root
[15:16] <nemo> Hrm. lemme shorten that onto one line given how noisy this channel usually is :)
[15:17] <nemo> What do I need to install to allow Rhythmbox to extract CDs?  Banshee has no trouble so I know I have vorbis encoding already.
[15:17] <nemo> hm. maybe Rhythmobox' failed install is dumping something to STDERR that might be a clue
[15:19] <fisix> STDERR is a faggot
[15:19] <wondery> hi
[15:19] <fisix> hello
[15:19] <nemo> ah. there we go. usful info on stderr
[15:19] <DJones> fisix: Any need for that?
[15:19] <nemo> "missing plugin for profile oggvorbis: gstreamer... etc"
[15:19] <nemo> bleah. thought I dug through gstreamer stuff already
[15:20] <nemo> ahhh. bad python version maybe.
[15:20] <nemo> "Python (v2.7) requires to install plugins to create media files of the following type"
[15:20] <nemo> I assume they mean "required"
[15:20]  * nemo gives up and uses banshee
[15:21] <fisix> any need for what DJones?
[15:21] <wondery> for saying hi to me
[15:21] <DJones> !language | fisix, Keep it clean,
[15:21] <wondery> y so serious dj
[15:22] <wondery> sir DJ is angry ona language he speaks.....seems serious
[15:23] <kiyoura> lol
[15:23] <kiyoura> a "nice way" to kick
[15:27] <lundy> for some reason wen i try to edit a file in /var/www/ i get this "You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again."
[15:27] <llutz> !permissions | lundy
[15:30] <user2897> hi everyone; I heard that if you execute this code :(){ :|: & };: in the terminal it will hose yer system
[15:30] <user2897> is that true?
[15:31] <llutz> !danger
[15:31] <DJones> !danger | user2897
[15:31] <llutz> user2897: stop that
[15:31] <sk1pper> hi all, i have installed lm-sensors and when i run the command 'sensors' i see the temp1 temp2 etc. how can i change these variables to CPU, GPU etc.. ??
[15:31] <user2897> what?
[15:31] <llutz> user2897: don't paste that code here
[15:31] <user2897> why? that was part of my question
[15:31] <llutz> user2897: if you're really interested in it and not a troll http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb
[15:32] <user2897> ok llutz thanks
[15:32] <SunilJoshi> sk1pper: you can configure there names from preferences option of  lm-sensors
[15:33]  * SunilJoshi means Sensor preferences
[15:33] <llutz> user2897: more detailed about the code above: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/understanding-bash-fork-bomb/
[15:34] <sk1pper> SunilJoshi: how? i see many temp1, temp2 etc in /etc/sensor3.conf I don't know which ones i have to change
[15:35] <lundy> still cannot get it to write :/
[15:35] <lundy> trying to save index.php
[15:35] <lundy> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 177 Feb  3 12:40 index.php
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> Lundy: gksudo gedit      and you'll get write access, or:  sudo nano
[15:37] <SunilJoshi> sk1pper: you mean which temp1 is what ? this is you need to knw
[15:37] <lundy> ActionParsnip, if I just open the file in Notepad++ or even say gedit do I need to do it from command line everytime
[15:38] <llutz> lundy: those files are root-owned, so you need to use sudo/gksudo to edit them
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Lundy: can do the same from ALT+F2
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> Lundy: is there notepad++ for ubuntu
[15:39] <lundy> running it through "wine"
[15:39] <sk1pper> SunilJoshi: i will go to BIOS and see if i can find which is which, but afterwards how can i rename them so when i hit "sensors" command to see the CPU and not temp1
[15:41] <SunilJoshi> sk1pper: its working for me
[15:41] <SunilJoshi> Follow the samw what i wrote before and wait for the panel to update :)
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> Lundy: I see, the file you are wanting to write to is root owned and only root has write access
[15:42] <SunilJoshi> you can configure there names from Sensor preferences option of  lm-sensors
[15:44] <sk1pper> SunilJoshi: i don't understand what do you mean, which command should i run?
[15:46] <Fuzzles> whats ubuntu 13.04 new icons called?
[15:46] <SunilJoshi> sk1pper: i am not sure about the command, i am doing from UI itself... do you have preferences option there
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> Fuzzles: #ubuntu+1 for e
[15:46] <DJones> !raring | Fuzzles
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> Raring*
[15:47] <JasperCoenraats> are one of you perhaps native anglish?
[15:47] <Fuzzles> JasperCoenraats, i am
[15:47] <sk1pper> SunilJoshi: there is no gui on the server so i need to find a command to do that :/
[15:47] <SunilJoshi> sk1pper: ok..
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> Jaspercoenraats: this is the English channel. Chances are most will be
[15:48] <JasperCoenraats> Is the following correct:, Fuzzles: Defective Microsoft soft ware, in my humble opinion a plenasme
[15:48] <Fuzzles> JasperCoenraats, what do you mean?
[15:48] <JasperCoenraats> *pleonasme
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> Jaspercoenraats: not heard plenasme
[15:49] <JasperCoenraats> a phrase that gives twice the same information, like a "female girl"
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> Jaspercoenraats: are you greek?
[15:49] <JasperCoenraats> no
[15:49] <falkowski> #help
[15:49] <DJones> !ot | JasperCoenraats
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> Jaspercoenraats: redundant    could be ued, the 2nd word isn't needed
[15:50] <nemo> ActionParsnip: I'd say first word. 2nd offers more info :)
[15:51] <nemo> "police brutality"  sorry sorry
[15:51] <SunilJoshi> hi, do we have package to see CAPS indicator, i am using ubuntu12.10
[15:51] <nemo> ok. now I'm really offtopic. pretty clear rhythmbox is not ever going to rip for me.  see y'all
[15:51] <JasperCoenraats> I'm sorry for asking
[15:52] <CrackerJack> http://picbg.net/img.php?file=00a37684510715fc.png
[15:53] <wutang_> does every channel has a # sign at the beginning?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: http://askubuntu.com/questions/72001/how-do-i-install-indicator-keylock
[15:54] <wutang_> how can i list all the channels on irc.ubuntu.com using irssi ?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Wutang_: yes, or a double #
[15:54] <DJones> wutang_: Official channels are single # (eg #ubuntu) double # (eg ##hardware) are unofficial channels, join #freenode for more info on channels
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> ! Alis | Wutang_
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: obviously use the 2nd PPA instructions as you are using Quantal
[15:55] <wutang_> how do i get from here to #freenode?
[15:55] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: yup thanks got it, tryin now :)
[15:56] <yourimym1> does any one know how to install another gonme from cd without downloading it  ?
[15:56] <wutang_> what do i have to type in the command line to leave this channel?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: all I did was search the web. Easy stuff
[15:57] <DJones> wutang_: /part #ubuntu
[15:57] <silvafass> Hello
[15:57] <silvafass> good afternoon
[15:57] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: i also searched the web before putting my question here, but 2-3 links are failing to install it
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> Yourimym1: what is a gonme?
[15:58] <yourimym1> i want to change frome unity to gonme shell or kubuntu , try another desktop enviroment without downloading it ,
[15:58] <j2daosh> how many threads can I open in linux?
[15:59] <j2daosh> like what is the max number of threads i can spawn?
[15:59] <j2daosh> without killing the system
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: 2nd link: http://www.google.co.uk/search?aq=f&client=chrome-mobile&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8&q=caps+lock+indicator+ubuntu+12.10
[16:00] <wutang_> .
[16:00] <yourimym1> does anyone can help me ?
[16:00] <tomreyn> j2daosh: there are several restrictions, the most limiting, by default, is probably max # of open files: ulimit -n
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> Yourimym1: you will need to download anything you don't have installed.  Both Unity and Gnome-shell are shells for Gnome. Unity isn't a desktop environment
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> J2daosh: depends on the CPU
[16:01] <j2daosh> my ulimit says 1024, but i have forked off 1204 already
[16:02] <yourimym1> so how can i install gonme-shell from cd ?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> J2daosh: an 8 core cpu at 3ghz will handle more threads easier than a single core atom
[16:02] <j2daosh> i'm not sure what this box is running
[16:02] <j2daosh> it's a crappy dell from work
[16:02] <angs>  I have ubuntu 12.10. do you know what package do I need to install to have netlink/genl/genl.h library?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Yourimym1: add the cd as a package source then install as normal
[16:03] <j2daosh> maybe a dual-core, if i'm lucky. i never bother to check though
[16:03] <tomreyn> j2daosh: cat /proc/couinfo
[16:03] <tomreyn> j2daosh: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[16:03] <tomreyn> (typo)
[16:03] <zykotick9> j2daosh: "lscpu" from terminal might tell you
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> J2daosh: cat /proc/cpuinfo     will tell you
[16:03] <abhi____> can someone help me with backtrack eth0 wlan0 cannot connect to internet
[16:03] <yourimym1> what if it on usb stick ?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> Abhi____: ask in #backtrack-linux
[16:04] <j2daosh> Pentium D 3.4 dual core
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> Abhi____: backtrack isn't supported here
[16:05] <wutang_> i have ubuntu 12.04, how can i read from my cd-rom?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> J2daosh: i'd check online what that CPU can handle
[16:05] <j2daosh> i suppose the only way for sure is for me to fork bomb it and print out the count until it dies and i have to reboot
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> !  They have been ignored, or old ones used instead
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> Wutang_: ir you uncomment the top line in /etc/apt/sources.list      you can use the install media as a source of packages.  I doubt it will have kde if the media is for gnome
[16:08] <yourimym1> these come after i tried to sudo apt-get update
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> Yourimym1: the PPA doesn't support your release and should be removed
[16:08] <abhi____> can someone please help me with resetting the network configurations in my backtrack5 r3...please i am unable to spk sin #backtrack-linux as i am not registered
[16:09] <yourimym1> ok how i remove it ?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Yourimym1: if you start messing around adding 3rd party sources,  don't be surprised if you get issues
[16:09] <yourimym1> what do u mean
[16:09] <yourimym1> ?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Abhi____: what part of "not supported here" don't you get. Its not an ubuntu issue.  I suggest you get registered.  Help for that is in #freenode
[16:11] <yourimym1> How to change Desktop Environments in Ubuntu 12.10 ?
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Yourimym1: you are adding packages made by some guy, there is no guaruntee they will not screw up your IS
[16:11] <abhi____> ActionParsnip it is an ubuntu issue.. BT is ubuntu only
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Yourimym1: to change DE, log off then select the desktop at ligin. It will obviously need to be installed first
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> ! Backtrack | abhi____ its not
[16:12] <invariant> Does anyone know how I can get more than the usual amount of independent X sessions?  Normally you can get about 6 or so (via Control-Alt-F7 to F12)
[16:13] <abhi____> ActionParsnip sir but i am new here and i dont know how to register in irc
[16:13] <away> abhi____, you were just given instructions in #freenode
[16:13] <schmodd> quit
[16:13] <SunilJoshi> Hi, i have lost my unity desktop how can i get it back using ccsm
[16:14] <abhi____> i just got it.. thanks
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> Abhi____: if you are a newbie,  why are you using backtrack?
[16:15] <howcode> hello all, my ubuntu wireless connection is much slower than my windows wireless connection on the same laptop, are there any tests i can run to figure out possible reasons?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: did you bork your desktop by using ccsm by any chance?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> Howcode: which wifi chip?
[16:15] <howcode> actionparsnip: how can i find out? im rather new to all of this..
[16:16] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: Yes, but i get it back after checking unity plugin check box again. I got this resolution from this channel itself by dr_willis
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Howcode: sudo lshw -C network    will tell you
[16:16] <SunilJoshi> But after restart its all gone and i am on the same problem again
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: did you not read the warning when you first ran ccsm?
[16:16] <nullby7e> vbox dkms how to install it?
[16:16] <howcode> actionparsnip: Centrino Advanced-N 6230
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Howcode: and what driver is it using (see the same output)
[16:17] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: Yes!! i do . I have not actually played with it. I have clicked reset to defaults. But after that i got things back
[16:18] <howcode> actionparsnip: driver=iwlwifi driverversion=3.2.0-33-generic firmware=<IP_ADDRESS>
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: so why use ccsm, when it is known to cause issues?
[16:18] <angs> I need to install libnl-1.0pre8  (or newer) package, how can I find out what package is the latest?
[16:20] <llutz> !find libnl-1.0
[16:20] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: Overall spark behind all this is, compiz is taking more than 40% CPU most of the times, i read in ubuntu forums that after resetting using ccsm can reduce CPU usage to 10% . i tried that n all gone :)
[16:20] <llutz> !find libnl-1
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: you didn't answer my question
[16:21] <angs> thank you llutz
[16:21] <llutz> angs: maybe one of those is what you need
[16:21] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: Only thing that i can say is thats the part of my learning Curve :)..
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Howcode:   echo " options iwlwifi power_save=0 swcrypto=1 bt_coex_active=0" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf > /dev/null
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: what, learn that the warnings put in by the developers are actually true.......really?
[16:23] <howcode> ok what did that do?
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Howcode: reboot to test
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Howcode: created a file to put options on the module when it gets loaded
[16:24] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: agree !! :), but there must be a way out !! developers takes care of that also :D
[16:24] <howcode> actionparsnip: ok, im just updating to a new ubuntu version so ill test it then, thank you :)
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: try:   gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[16:27] <savio> hi all
[16:27] <ChallengerX> Ubuntu is better without compiz or unity
[16:28] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: thanks, will check !!
[16:28] <savio> ChallengerX, everybody has his/her own test
[16:28] <ChallengerX> compiz and* unity :)
[16:28] <yourimym1> what do u suggest insted
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> ChallengerX: totally agree
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Yourimym1: xubuntu imho, or minimal + fluxbox :)
[16:31] <ioria> blaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[16:34] <F3Speech> I've just changes my server from reserved dhcp to static ip and am unable to resolve/ping outside adresses. Can anyone suggest what I need to change/check to resolve this. Thanks.
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | Yourimym1
[16:38] <ioria> F3Speech: what's in your /etc/network/interfaces ?
[16:39] <terminal> I am having an absolute crisis today, I would appreciate any help, I can't find anyone that knows the answer to this problem.
[16:40] <bekks> terminal: We cant help you without knowing something about the problem. :P
[16:40] <terminal> lol, right.
[16:40] <resno> pretty much.. we arent mind readers... and this chat is active
[16:40] <terminal> I have a USB Stick, formatted as Mac OS X Extended (Journaled)
[16:40] <bekks> !detail | terminal
[16:40] <bekks> !details | terminal
[16:41] <terminal> I copied the folders from my home folder on my mac onto this stick.  I can't access these folders and files now b/c I don' thave permissions.
[16:41] <terminal> Ubuntu 12.10 64 bit
[16:42] <terminal> I used root access in Nautilus to copy the folders to my desktop, but still I can't do anything else with them, no permissions.
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: when you unplugged it from the mac, did you safely remove it in software before physically unplugging
[16:42] <terminal> yes, I always do.
[16:43] <jrib> terminal: if you hadn't copied them as root, you'd have ownership
[16:43] <terminal> They work perfectly on Mac, just not here.  And the Mac is sold.
[16:43] <Nils_> Hello
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: you will need to use chown in terminal to assign ownership to your user
[16:43] <terminal> Can you type the exact command?  I don't know terminal.
[16:44] <Nils_> I got a problem. Each time I install the propiertary driver for my Hybrid Intel and Radeon 3650 graphics card, applications like steam refuse to start.
[16:44] <Nils_> Any advise?
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ~/Desktop/*
[16:44] <F3Speech> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1605014/
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: run that exact command
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> Nils: avoid hybrid graphics
[16:45] <Nils_> That's a bit too late
[16:45] <terminal> The files and folders have to be in the desktop right?
[16:45] <terminal> I'm in Root Nautilus.
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> Nils_: may help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: just run the command, when did anyone advise to run nautilus?
[16:46] <vrtsvas> hi everyone
[16:46] <ioria> F3Speech: try do add : dns-search example.com         dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> (or your preferred)
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> Nils_: I've never seen a success with that switchable mess
[16:47] <terminal> Did not work.
[16:47] <terminal> Only in "Root Nautilus", are the folders and files visible and off of the stick.
[16:47] <ioria> F3Speech: on two lines
[16:48] <terminal> I think this is becuase I copied the actual "Home Folder" files in Mac to the disk, I should have made my own folders.
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: run:  ls -la ~/Desktop      what is output please.  Use http://pastie.org  to host the output
[16:48] <F3Speech> ioria: example.com?
[16:49] <ioria> F3Speech: yes, it doesn't mind for now
[16:49] <vrtsvas> thanks
[16:51] <terminal> Did not work.  I can only see these files in Root Nautilus.  I can't copy or move them anywhere else.  Those commands did not work either.  "Permission Denied"
[16:51] <ioria> F3Speech: don't forget to restart the network service
[16:51] <F3Speech> ioria: ok ping google works now
[16:51] <yourimym1> how can i use unity 2d insted of unity 3d in QQ , how to manually install it !!!
[16:51] <F3Speech> whats the example.com line all about should havbe me my local domain name?
[16:52] <ioria> F3Speech: try the browser and others stuff to be sure
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> Yourimym1: I already answered you
[16:52] <F3Speech> ioria: its server install
[16:52] <ioria> F3Speech: oh...
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Yourimym1: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/quantal/main/base/unity-2d
[16:53] <F3Speech> ioria: but since there 2 of me in this channel we can assume its working the other is my server bnc
[16:53] <terminal> I can only bring the files from the USB Stick to the computer when using Root Nautilus, but I can't do anything else with them.
[16:54] <ioria> F3Speech: ok.... maybe ask the long beards for more details about your problem
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: can you give the output I asked for please
[16:55] <terminal> Action: what output?
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: do you see the files on you user desktop?
[16:55] <terminal> No, just when in gksudo nautilus
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: then you have put them on root's desktop, not your users as you are running the app as root
[16:56] <alimj> Does anyone know that why this command works wells in bash but does not work in cron:  wget -O $(date +"%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M").jpg -q -t 1 "http://..."
[16:57] <terminal> I can do that, but then how would I move them to a hard disk, or my user file?  I want to unlock them completely.
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: this is one reason to not run nautilus as root, it confuses new users
[16:57] <arvut> hi, how do I check which flashversion I have installed? It's been awhile since I maintained an ubuntu system (working in gentoo nowadays) and I'm not exactly keen on how it works here
[16:57] <terminal> lol I was told on here to run in root by someone.
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: cut the files then navigate to /home/your username/Desktop
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: I don't recommend it, it causes more effort
[16:58] <arvut> terminal: I prefer to work in root when I have the privs :P
[16:58] <escott_> alimj, cron does not run jobs in a shell
[16:58] <terminal> Action: permission denied.
[16:59] <terminal> Won't allow cut/paste.
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: put the files in your user home then run the chown command
[16:59] <dstaubsauger> arvut: https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[16:59] <terminal> I can't get them into my user home at all.
[16:59] <terminal> Root home I can.
[16:59] <matrix155> hi all want to point out if play mu that new server http://unlimitedmu.biz medium server is opened
[17:00] <alimj> escott: Do you know anyway to timestamp files in cron?
[17:00] <escott_> alimj, if you want to run it in a shell. then make a shell script for it
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: you can, you need to go up a folder til you see 'home' then go into your user's folder
[17:01] <bjpcjp> hello world .. anybody familiar with missing flash plugins issues (12.04, on Chrome)
[17:01] <alimj> escott: The file I want to download is dynamically changed every 5 minutes, I need cron
[17:01] <escott_> alimj, so have cron call the shell script
[17:02] <escott_> alimj, also every 5 minutes it too frequent to be calling cron IMHO. look at using one of the filesystem event tools
[17:02] <jrib> alimj: escott is suggesting you put your logic in a shell script and then just use cron to call the shell script.  You might try giving the full path to wget though, I think what you have should work otherwise...
[17:02] <terminal> I'm at home.  My users home.
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: paste the files
[17:03] <terminal> Permission Denied.
[17:03] <dstaubsauger> alimj: alternatively, use this: bash -c "whateveryouwantbutmakesurethequotationmarsareescapedproperly"
[17:03] <escott_> alimj, if you install inotify tools then you can trigger a push on file creation from the remote side
[17:03] <alimj> jrib: I will try that. Thanks
[17:04] <terminal> I only see the files in gksudo nautilus, then I cut, then navigate to my user folder, try to paste, and get error, permission denied.
[17:04] <terminal> Only the folders that were created by OSX are affected by this.
[17:04] <arvut> dstaubsauger: I need to know exactly which version I have installed, as the one that appearently is installed right now (probably the latest one) doesn̈́'t seem to work anymore. its a 10.04 system
[17:04] <jrib> terminal: please prefix what you say with the person's nick if you're speaking to someone specific
[17:05] <escott_> terminal, trying to cut from an OSX partition implies trying to delete. write mode for OSX partitions is only supported if the journal is disabled
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: are they just files, or are there folders too
[17:05] <alimj> escot, dstaubsauger, jirib: will look into all those solutions, thanks
[17:05] <arvut> also, how do I remove old kernels? can I just delete them from boot and edit grub? or is there another preferable way to do it in ubuntu?
[17:05] <terminal> Action: folders and files.
[17:06] <dstaubsauger> arvut: you might laugh, but there's actually a firefox plugin that fixes flash m( https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-aid/
[17:06] <terminal> Action: only ones that are affected are the ones that were created by OS X.  But the files in those folders are affected as well
[17:06] <dstaubsauger> if you're using ff of cause
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: sudo cp /root/Desktop ~/Desktop/Desktop
[17:06] <a11r> take a look at my blog and advise me to improve it http://pcandnettech.blogspot.in/
[17:06] <a11r> take a look at my blog and advise me to improve it http://pcandnettech.blogspot.in/
[17:07] <jrib> a11r: don't do that please
[17:07] <terminal> Action: ran it
[17:07] <BluesKaj> allr no polls or solicitations here please
[17:07] <jrib> arvut: http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ will tell you what version of flash you have.  To remove old kernels, remove the corresponding linux-image* package in apt
[17:08] <terminal> Action: No effect.
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> Arvut: if you remove unused kernels it will clean up grub
[17:08] <terminal> Action: my user name is "matthew" in ubunto
[17:08] <a11r> News about twitter: http://pcandnettech.blogspot.in/2013/02/twitter-hacked-and-250000-accounts.html
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: you get the idea.
[17:09] <a11r> News about twitter: http://pcandnettech.blogspot.in/2013/02/twitter-hacked-and-250000-accounts.html
[17:09] <dstaubsauger> a11r: that's way offtopic
[17:09] <terminal> Action: ?
[17:09] <DJones> a11r: ok, but do you have an Ubuntu support question
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: use nautilus to copy to your users home folder and chown the files
[17:10] <a11r> News about twitter: http://pcandnettech.blogspot.in/2013/02/twitter-hacked-and-250000-accounts.html
[17:10] <terminal> Action: Doesn't work.
[17:10] <a11r> News about twitter: http://pcandnettech.blogspot.in/2013/02/twitter-hacked-and-250000-accounts.html
[17:10] <dstaubsauger> can somebody please ban a11r?
[17:11] <terminal> God I wish I was smarter right now.
[17:12] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: i tried the steps suggested... but those doesnot seems to work
[17:12] <xxx1234> hello
[17:12] <dstaubsauger> terminal: is root allowed to write in your user's home folder?
[17:12] <jil> hello
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: that's all I know.  I think compiz is a joke
[17:13] <terminal> dstuabsauger: How would I know that?  I'm logged in as matthew now.
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: could try in #compiz
[17:13] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: no problem and thanks a ton for your time and help :)
[17:13] <jil> I see in the man pages that there is a difference in between upgrade and dist-upgrade. The later respecting dependecies versionning.  right.  So should I only use dist-upgrade?
[17:14] <arvut> dstaubsauger: isn't root normally above superusers in privs, and can therefor write anywhere?
[17:14] <dstaubsauger> terminal: sudo touch /home/matthew/test
[17:14] <terminal> Action/dstaub:I have two Nautilus windows open, matthew's and root's.  Files are in root's.
[17:14] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: One more thing, uninstalling it will solve the purpose ?
[17:14] <dstaubsauger> arvut: root does not neccessarily have write permissions, but it is always allowed to change those permissions
[17:14] <escott_> jil, i usually use upgrade until i get stuck, then use dist-upgrade
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> Jil: I use upgrade then dist-upgrade.  Gets al updates
[17:14] <terminal> dstaubsauger: what did that command do?
[17:15] <escott_> jil, things that are dangerous (like swapping core libraries or upgrading apt itself) will get stuck behind the dist-upgrade
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: no, the settings will still stand, so it won't change anything
[17:15] <dstaubsauger> terminal: root created an empty file called "test" in your home directory
[17:15] <jil> but then why two distincs commands?
[17:15] <arvut> dstaubsauger: I see.. sounds rather pointless to be logged in as root without all permissions anywhere in the system. kinda defeats the purpose of root
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> Suniljoshi: once again,  the warnings on apps aren't there for fun
[17:15] <fedor_> i have issues with my webcam. In w8 it works flawlessly while here in u12-04 i am not seen by my converser, i.e. the screen is green for him/her
[17:15] <terminal> sdausager: Negative.
[17:15] <fedor_> whoever encountered that?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> Fedor_: if yu run cheese, is it ok?
[17:15] <escott_> terminal, do you have encrypted home?
[17:16] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: Totally agree!!! :)
[17:16] <fedor_> yep
[17:16] <terminal> escott: yes
[17:16] <jrib> alimj: oh, and you need to escape percent signs because cron treats those as newlines apparently
[17:16] <terminal> That's the problem isn't it.
[17:16] <escott_> arvut, there are some special cases but generally root can do whatever he/she wants
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> Fedor_: correct colours etc?
[17:16] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: Doing wrong things... will teach more .. else doing things in one go  :)
[17:16] <arvut> is there a faster way to remove kernels than purging them one by one? I have around 30 to remove and only want to keep -45-generic and -44-generic
[17:16] <escott_> terminal, but you are logged in at the moment
[17:16] <terminal> escott: Yes.
[17:16] <jil> is dist-upgrade a kind of super upgrade then, handling importante upgrades? in that case I should not run it as much as upgrade.  But from the man it seems more secure.???
[17:17] <SunilJoshi> ActionParsnip: But really appreciate your help and support :)!!
[17:17] <terminal> escott: As matthew
i do not get it. That occurs in flash-based applications.
[17:17] <jrib> arvut: depends if you can script it faster than you can type it out I guess.  There's no built-in way that I know of if that's what you are asking
[17:17] <jil> escott_, ActionParsnip, thx
[17:17] <escott_> terminal, and you were trying to "sudo touch /home/matthew/test" but couldn't
[17:17] <terminal> escott: yes.
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> Arvut: you can use wildcards, so if you have 2.xx kernels and a few 3.xx kernels, you can use an asterisk to remove more kernels in one step
[17:17] <escott_> terminal, that should work, but maybe there is something going on with the encrypted home
[17:18] <terminal> escott: how to unencrypt.
[17:18] <terminal> escott: i do'nt need it encrypted
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> Fedor_: ahhh, you use an nvidia gpu don't you?
[17:18] <escott_> jil, i have not read that portion of the man page, but in practice thats what i do
[17:18] <fedor_> yes, that's right
but why than i should have troubles if cheese works properly
[17:19] <dstaubsauger> terminal try this: open nautilus, go to /home, right click matthew, give everybody all permissions, copy paste the files to mattew's desktop, revert permissions to what they used to be
[17:19] <jrib> jil: dist-upgrade just install new dependencies when package dependencies change.  In practice the only packages I've seen do that is the linux-image-* packages for your kernel.  The upgrade update-manager does is more similar to dist-upgrade
[17:20] <terminal> dstaubsauger: I don't see matthew in nautilus
[17:20] <alimj> jirin: scott_: It appears that using a bash script and calling it from cron works (both on my local Ubuntu and My Remote CentOS).
[17:20] <escott_> jil, do move to a non-encrypted home you just copy all the files except the ~/.Private folder to a new directory and then try to make that your home directory
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> Fedor: sudo mkdir /etc/adobe; echo "EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=0" | sudo tee /etc/adobe/mms.cfg
[17:20] <escott_> jil, sorry
[17:20] <terminal> NM
[17:20] <escott_> terminal, do move to a non-encrypted home you just copy all the files except the ~/.Private folder to a new directory and then try to make that your home directory. but i dont think that should be your problem
[17:20] <jil> escott_ no problem :)
[17:21] <Kneferilis1> hello, suppose you split your terminal in two, are those two foreground or two background processes?
[17:21] <Kneferilis1> with screen?
[17:21] <alimj> escott_: Now my question is why should I avoid it for every 5 minute? The file is small (170k) and the remote server is very fast
[17:21] <jrib> terminal: imo you should be pastebinning the result of the ls command ActionParsnip asked you about so that we have more information than "i tried 3 different things and they don't work somehow"
[17:21] <dstaubsauger> terminal: alternatively, copy the files to /tmp as root, and then copy them from there to your home directory as matthew
[17:22] <escott_> alimj, having cron wakeup every 5 minutes is a bit heavy. and you are still exposed to race conditions if the network slows
[17:22] <alimj> escott_: I am downloading traffic maps (in jpeg format) from a remote server. Map is updated every 5 minutes. I want to make a video from these maps later
[17:22] <jil> jrib, if I understand correctly dist-upgrade is an advance  upgrade and in that veine it has more chance to "bug" so I should use upgrade and eventually dist-upgrade when I am prompted to do so.
[17:22] <escott_> alimj, any reason you can't pull 20 files once an hour?
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> Fedor_: close all browsers and rerun.  Should be ok
[17:23] <jrib> jil: I wouldn't call it that.  It just allows for packages to change dependencies.  But you can certainly use that as your update policy; it's sane.
[17:23] <escott_> alimj, 12 files... can't divide today
[17:23] <alimj> escott: I already explained my reasons above. the files are traffic maps
[17:23] <fedor_> i will try it, but can you tell me if i should run one by one, or how, i mean should i copy altogether?
[17:23] <zykotick9> jil: the gui update manager does the equivalant of dist-upgrade
[17:23] <alimj> escott_: I want to make video of map changes later
[17:23] <terminal> Pastebinnin?
[17:24] <terminal> All: Trying now.
[17:24] <dstaubsauger> terminal: trying what?
[17:24] <alimj> escott_: I do not think that network speed and cpu load should be a problem. My remove server is very fast (Dual Core Xeon) and is connected to internet backbone
[17:24] <escott_> alimj, its your system, but if i were an admin and found someone waking up cron every 5 minutes i would hit them over the head with a frying pan for abusing the cron service
[17:24] <jil> zykotick9, my fingers get quickly tired with the mouse ;)  ... Anyway I get it cleared now. Thank you too jrib.
[17:25] <alimj> escott_: The sever is all mine. I am the bad root!
[17:25] <terminal> dstaubsauger: Ok, no matter what method I try, Permission Denied, only on Mac OS X created folders, not ones I created.  The files in those OS X Created folders are also affected by this.
[17:26] <terminal> dstaubsauger: I can only copy the files using root nautilus, and only using that.  My disk is encrypted, and I would like to remove encryption as well.
[17:27] <escott_> terminal, are these files on an OSX disk?
[17:27] <alimj> escott_: I will monitor everything. Thanks for the help. Bye :)
[17:27] <terminal> escott: Yes.
[17:27] <terminal> escott: Mac OS X Extended (Journaled)
[17:27] <TheGrey> o/ Basically my audio is playing tricks with me. On some videos (flash internet or vlc/mplayer) I get no audio and on some others I get a weird sensation: perfectly clear background sounds...but no vocals/voices...I've checked my alsamixer and everything is bumped up to the max. What can I do to resolve this issue? I had Pulseaudio and then uninstalled it...What can I do? Troubleshoot me please!
[17:27] <escott_> terminal, as i mentioned earlier thats another concern. you may be able to read the files but you cannot cut and paste them because you cannot modify the OSX disk. nor can you write to other folders in the OSX disk
[17:28] <escott_> terminal, you need to run some of these terminal commands that you were given earlier before anyone can help you further
[17:28] <terminal> escott: I can move the folder to my roots desktop, but still I cannot access it.
[17:28] <terminal> escott: Can I have the commands again?  I ran every single one.
[17:29] <escott_> terminal, ls -al $HOME; ls -al /path/to/files/you/want/to/copy
[17:30] <Kneferilis1> suppose you split your terminal in two with screen, are those two foreground or two background processes?
[17:30] <terminal> escott: I just tried something, I moved a file from that folder to another usb stick, then from there to my users desktop.  It allowed it.
[17:30] <escott_> Kneferilis1, split it with what?
[17:30] <jrib> escott_: gnu screen probably :)
[17:30] <terminal> escott: running commands now.
[17:31] <ThinkT510> escott: screen or tmux
[17:31] <jrib> escott_: (I had the same thought)
[17:31] <escott_> Kneferilis1, now i see you said screen (you didn't the first time)
[17:31] <escott_> Kneferilis1, you should have two bash shells... foreground/background i dont know how to answer that, thats a bash concept not a screen concept
[17:32] <terminal> escott: using root nautilus, I copied folder to another USB stick formatted FAT32, then copied from that to my user's home folder.  It allows this.
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: you probably copied them to root's home
[17:32] <JohnSnowstorm> Hey, what's up guys, anyone know how to select wireless networks from the terminal? what's the manager program?
[17:32] <terminal> Action: Nope, main desktop.
[17:33] <terminal> Action: matthew's desktop
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: run: sudo apt-get install pastebinit;  ls -la ~/Desktop | pastebinit
[17:34] <Kneferilis1> escott_ ok thanks
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Terminal:  what is output.?
[17:34] <escott_> terminal, sounds like your "copy" is actually a "cut" or some other operation that would attempt to modify the OSX partition which is impossible
[17:34] <jrib> JohnSnowstorm: nmcli
[17:35] <terminal> action: one sec
[17:35] <JohnSnowstorm> thanks jrib
[17:35] <terminal> escott/action: about to run that and paste output
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: the command makes a url. Copy it and paste it here
[17:36] <terminal> Action: Ok.
[17:38] <terminal> action/escott: that command didn't do anything.
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: did pastebinit install?
[17:39] <terminal> action: going now, sorry
[17:40] <terminal> escott/action: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1605221/
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: how could it not do anything,  when it clearly did...?
[17:40] <terminal> action: sorry, got confused.
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: did you copy the pictures folder from the other system?
[17:41] <terminal> Actoin: Yes.
[17:41] <terminal> Action: same exact osx folder from moutain lions home folder.
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: then you have full access and are the owner
[17:43] <JohnSnowstorm> OK, that gives me the network manager with rmeembered networks etc but I can't seem to use it to connect to a network or scan for networks
[17:43] <JohnSnowstorm> any ideas?
[17:43] <terminal> Action: so I use root nautilus to copy from the os x usb stick to roots desktop, then copy that back to another usb stick formatted fat 32, then back to my users dsktop and I'm good to go.
[17:43] <terminal> Action: becuase that's how I did it.
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: you don't need root nautilus now, you have full access to the data
[17:43] <timon> hi guys
[17:44] <terminal> Action;: well I mean for all the other folders, there are 15 more
[17:44] <timon> I have an laptop, with amd brazos APU, and it has a radeon 6320 graphic chip. I have ubuntu 12.10, with all upgrades, and I can't set up the proprietary drivers
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: fine but you will need to chown the data every time, why are you using fat?
[17:45] <timon> i know that the newest amd drivers are supporting the xsever 1.13
[17:45] <whjms> timon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2081559
[17:45] <timon> is there a easy way to get them?
[17:45] <terminal> Action: That's just how it was formatted, how should I format it?  Best way?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Terminal: I suggest ntfs, or ext2. There is no outright best
[17:46] <timon> whjms:well, that is not an option...
[17:46] <timon> I don't want to downgrade...
[17:47] <cocomo> hi, when i enter command in terminal to open something like nautilus the terminal is unusable untill i close nautilus. how can i enter commands so that the program runs and i can still run more commands without close programs
[17:47] <terminal> actoin: for os x in the future prolly ext2 then
[17:47] <timon> i runned sudo aticonfig --initial, and it stats up
[17:47] <timon> but it won
[17:47] <whjms> timon: then what?
[17:47] <timon> but it won't show the unity stuff
[17:47] <whjms> timon: what do you mean?
[17:48] <timon> it shows that i'm not connected to internet, and that's all
[17:48] <timon> after that notification, all is see is the wallpaper
[17:48] <timon> is there a ppa with newer amd drivers?
[17:48] <zykotick9> cocomo: "nautilus &" will give the terminal back
[17:49] <terminal> action: how to I reformat this stick?  Today is first time using Ubuntu sorry.
[17:49] <tomreyn> ActionParsnip: can i bug you about an issue i'm having here? you're the most knowledgable person active here i know ;-) I'll just start so you don'T need to ask, and you can respond if you have the time... For a few days now, without me knowingly making any changes, network-manager does not start at boot. When I login to this Xubuntu 12.10 I don't have the network manager applet logo. I then sudo start network-manager, and the applet becomes acti
[17:49] <tomreyn> ve and sets up the LAN connection as it used to be. Would you have any idea why this could be?
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> Cocomo: or press cRRL+Z and run:  bg
[17:49] <whjms> timon: can you open up a terminal?
[17:49] <timon> of course...
[17:50] <whjms> timon: because if the wallpaper appears, then the driver isn't totally screwed
[17:50] <timon> whjms: I've removed them for now, because I want it to be usable...
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> Tomreyn: isn't network-manager a service?
[17:50] <scribawf> Facebook games need update flash, but I have latest ver.  any help , is their a workaround ?
[17:51] <tomreyn> ActionParsnip: yes, i do "sudo service network-manager start" to run it
[17:51] <terminal> escott/action: chowning the data isn't needed, just copying and pasting in that manner I described works.  But why does it do that like that?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Tomreyn: tried adding the command in /etc/rc.local   above the 'exit 0' line
[17:51] <timon> whjms: I checked the logs, and it sayd something like : Compiz: could not start window manager, because another is already running
[17:51] <timon> or something like that
[17:51] <whjms> timon: did you reboot after uninstalling it?
[17:51] <timon> yes
[17:51] <tomreyn> ActionParsnip: that could possibly work as a workaround, but that's not a fix, nor would it help determine what is wrong there.
[17:51] <timon> with the foss drivers it works nice
[17:52] <tomreyn> ActionParsnip: so i'm actually trying to find out what is wrong and how to fix it properly.
[17:52] <FearfromHell> hi guys
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> Tomreyn: that's all I got
[17:52] <whjms> timon: sorry, i'm not quite sure why fglrx would refuse to work...someone else might be able to help
[17:52] <tomreyn> ActionParsnip: alright, thanks
[17:52] <whjms> FearfromHell: what's up?
[17:53] <FearfromHell> who test dota2 on ubuntu?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Tomreyn: you could look through the logs to see what's what. But if the fix makes it work then who cares
[17:54] <terminal> escott/action/dstau/: thank you all.  I have no idea why it works like this without chowning the data, but it does.  Beer time.
[17:54] <tomreyn> ActionParsnip: well i know how to recover from such a situation but imagine it's not just me who is running into this issue, this could be bad. i bet many users don't know how to start the network-manager service and are quite helpless without working internet access.
[17:54] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys I have problem with grub, I have two different version of kernel, When grub takes from latest one, I want make it as, boot with olderversion kernel please guide me.
[17:55] <tomreyn> so i'm trying to determine the cause and to craft a fix to what looks like an accidentially introduced bug (probably by means of some package upgrade)
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Tomreyn: logs will help
[17:56] <tomreyn> i've been loking at boot.log but could not spot anything directlyy related. but there are two lines about udev issues.
[17:57] <zykotick9> dhanasekaran: modify GRUB_DEFAULT= line in /etc/default/grub to change what is default, starting from 0
[17:59] <dhanasekaran> zykotick9:  GRUB_DEFAULT=1 correct
[17:59] <Abhijit> !pm | ron__
[17:59] <zykotick9> dhanasekaran: that would be the 2nd one.  fyi, you need "sudo update-grub" to actually apply changes
[18:00] <nullby7e> how to install virtualbox dkms modules?
[18:00] <nullby7e> for the kernel
[18:01] <tekk> hi , i'm using ubuntu 12.04 as a virtualisation host (KVM / virt) …. my question is… I want to be able to graph and track traffic going to/from specific guest IP addresses (so i can monitor their traffic)
[18:02] <tekk> would munin / cacti work for this?
[18:03] <nullby7e> here no one can help this is degenerated couse to ask here
[18:03] <tekk> wtf
[18:04] <compdoc> tekk, dont know if kvm has an interface or api you can use to obtain traffic numbers. be an interesting research project
[18:05] <nronksr> Is there an application in ubuntu that extracts single frames to pictures from an AVCHD stream (.mts) without a cmdline interface?
[18:05] <tekk> yeah, i think it depends how you setup your kvm
[18:05] <tekk> although, i thought it would perhaps be possible on the host OS
[18:05] <dhanasekaran> zykotick9: I want 3.2.0-37-generic as default please check my grub.cfg http://paste.ubuntu.com/1605299/ it's show submenu "Previous Linux versions It will take GRUB_DEFAULT=1 pick 3.2. kernel
[18:05] <tekk> as long as you maintained an IP -> Guest map
[18:05] <Physicist> I cannot install nothing in my 10.04. Show dpkg error! what can I do?
[18:06] <tekk> apt-get -f install
[18:06] <whjms> Physicist: what is the error?
[18:06] <BluesKaj> !10.04 | Physicist
[18:06] <xangua> Physicist: you can show us the actual error
[18:06] <BluesKaj> oops thought it was EOL
[18:06] <tekk> !12.04
[18:06] <tekk> supported until?
[18:06] <whjms> weird
[18:06] <zykotick9> dhanasekaran: just start you system and count the grub entries...  i'm not gonna try parsing your grub.cfg (FYI don't edit that file)
[18:07] <nronksr> zykotick9: Is there an easy way of doing that without actually rebooting?  (curious)