[00:00] <heroin> irc.spnet.net
[00:00] <OerHeks> but systemd got new tricks
[00:00] <sudormrf> cannot touch /forcefsck, read-only file system
[00:00] <sudormrf> going to have to reboot to live cd and fsck probably, right?
[00:01] <Gallomimia> recovery mode might give you some leeway
[00:02] <Gallomimia> but yeah. a liveCD can be very helpful
[00:02] <sudormrf> ok
[00:02] <sudormrf> one sec
[00:02] <Gallomimia> i've taken to keeping mine handy (USB keys) and labeled
[00:02] <sudormrf> should be something simple
[00:02] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: i don't really know what to say now :p
[00:03] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: where do i start reading?
[00:03] <Gallomimia> OerHeks: you're possibly the expertise i need. BillTheKid and i are troubleshooting his system. we've determined that fsck won't run properly on his LVM system. the filesystem seems.... defunct. any insight?
[00:03] <Mouaad> Hello, I just bough a new computer with intel i7-6500U (skylake) and amd radeon r7 , now what is the best ubuntu distribution to get both work (the processor and the graphical card) ?
[00:04] <OerHeks> ouch, LVM is not really something i have done often :-(
[00:04] <Gallomimia> Mouaad: 16.04
[00:04] <OerHeks> i read a lot of your conversation though
[00:04] <Gallomimia> OerHeks: i run it on my main system, and i still don't have any insight
[00:04] <bashduplicates> hello i was trying to install the fdupes command when i got this error message :
[00:04] <bashduplicates> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[00:04] <Gallomimia> bashduplicates: you need to quit all programs that do installs
[00:04] <Mouaad> Gallomimia: but there is no fglrx in 16.04 !
[00:05] <Mouaad> is it okey ?
[00:05] <bashduplicates> i am using my laptop on a virtual box, and nothing else is open
[00:05] <Gallomimia> bashduplicates: also you need to run the install with privliges. sudo
[00:05] <bashduplicates> i used sudo
[00:05] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia, OerHeks, I wish I have not used it too. I have no understanding of how it works and bit my ass now...
[00:05] <OerHeks> bashduplicates, use or bash or softwarecenter/synaptic .. or are there updates pending?
[00:05] <Nitrigaur> Gallomimia,, I have to close the chat now, going to go ahead with the distribution upgrade.
[00:05] <Gallomimia> is the filesystem read/only?
[00:06] <Gallomimia> Nitrigaur: fabulous. good luck
[00:06] <Mouaad> it is not that simple to make hybrid-graphics work in 16.04...
[00:07] <bashduplicates> Galomimia : it worked
[00:07] <Gallomimia> Mouaad: er, i'm not sure actually. i switched to an nvidia card for that reason. but nvidia drivers got mainlined in 16.04. i've heard good things about it with radeons
[00:07] <OerHeks> Mouaad, yes, see the releasenotes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#fglrx
[00:07] <Gallomimia> i mean... updates
[00:08] <Gallomimia> i've a question. is it better to use the 16.04.1 install disk? is there something i should do to my installed system to update it to that version? what's the difference?
[00:08] <OerHeks> these GPUs are supported by the new AMDgpu™ RX 480 RX 470 R9 Fury/Fury X/Nano R9 M395X 390X M385 380X 360 290x 285 m270x 260x
[00:09] <Gallomimia> R7 is not in there.
[00:09] <OerHeks> Gallomimia, the 16.04 was delayed some days, iirc, but oke to keep using it. 16.04.1 would be faster deployment
[00:10] <Mouaad> I have: Intel Core i7-6500U and AMD Radeon R7 M360, but until now, i can't make them both work perfectly...
[00:10] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: would it be possible in couple of words to tell me what we try to restore so I can start googling? :)
[00:10] <mustmodify> is this an error?
[00:10] <mustmodify> Or just ... the expected output? https://gist.github.com/mustmodify/dddddf4d8f15279d6a07734e49e2699c
[00:10] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: i just searched for LVM superblock lost and found some interesting results
[00:10] <Gallomimia> the 2nd result
[00:11] <BillTheKid> thanks I'm going through it now
[00:13] <Gallomimia> aw there's no solution posted. but we should try looking at lsblk
[00:13] <OerHeks> Mouaad, seems like you ran into this bug
[00:13] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu/+bug/1603989
[00:13] <OerHeks> if so, please confirm
[00:14] <Mouaad> yes I did have this
[00:14] <Gallomimia> mustmodify: does your system have an mdadm raid involved?
[00:15] <OerHeks> i have read lots of tricks to get sometimes a result, like blacklisting nouveau .. worth a try
[00:16] <Mouaad> I feel like trying 15.04.. there is drivers for my graphical card (http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/linux) and should support intel skylake processors...
[00:17] <mustmodify> Gallomimia: I don't know what that is, so I'll say no.
[00:17] <mustmodify> I mean, I know what RAID is, and no.
[00:18] <Gallomimia> then.. not sure why it's installed on your system. its not by default. i should think that error is not important
[00:19] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: before you go much further, i suggest you post on the ubuntu forums for help. make a post like some of the ones you've seen, with all the pertinent outputs.
[00:19] <Gallomimia> also, we should look at the output of sudo lsblk
[00:19] <Bashing-om> Mouaad: See: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2328993 . Maybe install the i965-va-driver ?
[00:20] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: http://pastebin.com/WzpwE6b2
[00:21] <sudormrf> hmm....Oer
[00:21] <mustmodify> Gallomimia: ok, I'll take your word for it. :P
[00:21] <sudormrf> OerHeks, fsck /dev/sda1 reports clean, /dev/sda2 (extended) says can't read, /dev/sda5 (swap) says nothing
[00:22] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: no surprizes there. still no idea how to repair the FS tho. sorry
[00:22] <BillTheKid> anyway Gallomimia, thank you so so much for trying to help me.
[00:22] <BillTheKid> really appreciate it...
[00:23] <Gallomimia> i hope you can get it fixed :(
[00:23] <Gallomimia> i've spent weeks at a time with my system being offline due to similar problems. but at least i was able to read my files from a liveUSB
[00:24] <sudormrf> reboot, still the same thing
[00:25] <Gallomimia> sudormrf: which of those 3 partitions is your root filesystem?
[00:25] <sudormrf> Gallomimia, /dev/sda1
[00:25] <Gallomimia> oh. and it said its clean..
[00:26] <Gallomimia> are you on a liveUSB right now?
[00:26] <sudormrf> yep
[00:26] <sudormrf> I was, just rebooted again.  I can go back to the liveCD no problem
[00:26] <Gallomimia> it's still mounted r/o at this time? mount -l
[00:26] <sudormrf> in the liveCD environment?
[00:26] <Gallomimia> well, right now
[00:26] <Mouaad> bashing-om, i will give it a shot, meanwhile anyway to make sure that i965-va-driver would work for Intel Core i7-6500U and AMD Radeon R7 M360 ?
[00:27] <sudormrf> Gallomimia, same error when I log in directly
[00:27] <Gallomimia> it should still let us get a list of the mounts
[00:27] <sudormrf> Gallomimia, and yes, it is mounted as RO
[00:27] <bashduplicates> i am trying to run fdupes in the background but it doesnt respond...
[00:28] <Gallomimia> wonder why. try dmesg | tail
[00:28] <sudormrf> Gallomimia, /dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (ro,relatime,data=ordered)
[00:28] <sudormrf> ok
[00:28] <Bashing-om> Mouaad: Well .. in 16.04 I am not certain of anything I might know in respect to ATI hybrid graphics .
[00:28] <sudormrf> Gallomimia, that isn't showing me much.  only a cgroup entry
[00:28] <Gallomimia> sudormrf: you're looking for error messages about the drive
[00:28] <Gallomimia> uh... i think if you change the tail to less
[00:29] <sudormrf> Gallomimia, just did that ;D
[00:29] <sudormrf> scrolling throuhg now
[00:29] <Gallomimia> if you just do dmesg it will give you tons of output. that might be all you need
[00:29] <Gallomimia> i think the END key would work, and scroll up?
[00:29] <Gallomimia> well. who knows... i'm not an expert at finding logged errors
[00:30] <gebbione> i am seeing errors (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory
[00:30] <gebbione> any suggestions on what to do?
[00:31] <gebbione> ubuntu is stuck on blackscreen
[00:31] <sudormrf> so far nothing is jumping out at me
[00:31] <sudormrf> still looking at it
[00:31] <YankDownUnder> gebbione: When did this start happening?
[00:32] <gebbione> after uninstalling the old propritory amd driver
[00:32] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: Please pastebin the output of "sudo blkid" and "sudo parted -l".
[00:33] <YankDownUnder> gebbione: How exactly did you "un-install" the driver?
[00:33] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, ok, one sec
[00:33] <gebbione> from synaptic
[00:33] <gebbione> then checked modprobe
[00:33] <gebbione> and now blacklisted amdgpu
[00:33] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: Have you checked the drive's S.M.A.R.T. status? ( you can do so with gnome disks).
[00:34] <gebbione> but the device error sounds like a different problem
[00:34] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, blkid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22975295/
[00:34] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, parted: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22975373/
[00:35] <YankDownUnder> gebbione: Ok...fair enough, how about running this in a terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt autoremove && sudo apt autoclean => then see if you're still getting that crappy error, eh?
[00:35] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, it's not installed ATM.  I would have to do it from a live CD
[00:35] <sudormrf> unless there is another package other than smartmontools
[00:36] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: checking the disk's smart status is something you should also do. just to see if the drive is doing alright. no reason to think its not yet
[00:36] <gebbione> YankDownUnder, i have no network and no update is running as everything looks up to date
[00:36] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: Gnome Disks comes with Ubuntu by default.
[00:37] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, ah, one sec
[00:37] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: And it would be best to do all of this via a LiveUSB anyway.
[00:38] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: I checked with disks tool on gUI it says its ok
[00:38] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: https://linuxexpresso.wordpress.com/2010/03/31/repair-a-broken-ext4-superblock-in-ubuntu/
[00:38] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, gotcha.  booting in to the liveCD now
[00:38] <BillTheKid> any thoughts?
[00:38] <YankDownUnder> gebbione: Ok - then what about: sudo apt autoremove && sudo apt autoclean =>  ??
[00:38] <BillTheKid> I'm about to do the last commands
[00:38] <BillTheKid> sudo mke2fs -n  /dev/ubuntu-vg/root
[00:39] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, disk shows OK in gnome disk
[00:39] <BillTheKid> gave me back the backups of the supperblocks
[00:39] <gebbione> YankDownUnder, auto remove suggests removing 850mg of stuff
[00:39] <gebbione> haven't run auto clean
[00:40] <YankDownUnder> gebbione: yes...that sounds about right - what? Are you worried about "apt" removing things that might cause you issues?
[00:40] <gebbione> yes
[00:40] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: it does seem like a good way to go
[00:40] <gebbione> indeed
[00:40] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: The order of things to do once in the Live CD/USB : *first* check the smart status, then "sudo fsck -f /dev/sda1" (which causes fsck to check the filesystem even if it was unmounted cleanly).
[00:40] <Gallomimia> oh. if you have results, i think you're about to fix the problem!
[00:40] <gebbione> i had fglrx and after removing it i have this problem now
[00:41] <gebbione> so i am a bit worried
[00:41] <YankDownUnder> gebbione: Your choice. "autoremove" generally removes configurations, drivers, stale programs unwanted or outdated things...
[00:41] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, doing the fsck -f now.  let's see how that goes
[00:41] <sudormrf> I was just doing fsck /dev/sda1 before.
[00:41] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: from the logs that you told me to check I know "blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 503816"
[00:41] <BillTheKid> the sudo mke2fs -n  /dev/ubuntu-vg/root returns:
[00:42] <BillTheKid> mke2fs 1.42.13 (17-May-2015) Creating filesystem with 239951872 4k blocks and 59990016 inodes Filesystem UUID: 79f178fa-2cb1-4404-82f2-c7e7b7a34865 Superblock backups stored on blocks:  	32768, 98304, 163840, 229376, 294912, 819200, 884736, 1605632, 2654208,  	4096000, 7962624, 11239424, 20480000, 23887872, 71663616, 78675968,  	102400000, 214990848
[00:42] <BillTheKid> any intuition of which block should I choose? is the sector number of the log related to the block numbers above?
[00:42] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, ok, no errors or anything.  next suggestion?
[00:42] <Jordan_U> YankDownUnder: gebbione: apt autotemove (without --purge) won't ever remove configuration files.
[00:43] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: the instructions say the first one. but really any should do
[00:44] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: i wonder what that error in the logs means?? maybe that's where the corrupted info on the filesystem is
[00:45] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: Boot back into your installed system and pastebin the output of "dmesg --human". That should tell us what error caused the kernel to remount ro.
[00:45] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, okie dokie :)
[00:45] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: before doing the reboot, i would try running the fsck on it, and try mounting it
[00:45] <gebbione> Jordan_U, it made no difference anyway
[00:46] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/22976437/
[00:47] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: that's why I asked if the sectors and the block numbers are related
[00:47] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: I'll try to fsck it again :)
[00:47] <Gallomimia> they are related a bit. but the LVM makes them remapped
[00:48] <BillTheKid> it's deleting ynodes now
[00:48] <BillTheKid> inodes
[00:48] <BillTheKid> Superblock needs_recovery flag is clear, but journal has data. Recovery flag not set in backup superblock, so running journal anyway. /dev/ubuntu-vg/root: recovering journal Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes Deleted inode 10499058 has zero dtime.  Fix<y>? yes
[00:50] <Gallomimia> sounds pretty good to me!
[00:51] <Gallomimia> the journal is exactly the thing that your drive will now use to recover whatever got corrupted when the crash happened
[00:52] <BillTheKid> Block bitmap differences:  -(42299169--42299176) -(42388132--42388144) -(42416874--42416886) -(42420453--42420465) -(42420490--42420491) -(42445372--42445413) -(42451976--42451984) -(42466933--42466934) -(42467077--42467078) -42467105 -42467305 -(42582033--42582042) -(42613933--42613945) -(42614010--42614022) -(42652340--42652352) -(42683157--42683169) -(42696299--42696311) -(171236045--171236057) -(171254794--171254806) -(17132395
[00:53] <BillTheKid> Free blocks count wrong for group #1 (31743, counted=8872). Fix<y>?
[00:53] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, looks like UUID issue?
[00:53] <BillTheKid> I assume I keep pressing yes
[00:53] <Gallomimia> your guess is as good as mine
[00:53] <Gallomimia> the reason to run fsck is to fix all this stuff...
[00:53] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, I just tried this: mount -o remount,rw / and it says: can't find uuid=UUID HERE
[00:54] <Gallomimia> sudormrf: you don't really want to mount something at / while your system is running
[00:54] <BillTheKid> it is insane how many confirmations it has
[00:54] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, looking at the UUID from blkid and the uuid in the fstab there is a discrepancy
[00:54] <BillTheKid> I am on number 1200
[00:54] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: sounds like you broke a lot of stuff during that crash
[00:54] <BillTheKid> do you think i can stop it and force yet?
[00:54] <BillTheKid> *yes
[00:54] <Gallomimia> maybe
[00:55] <BillTheKid> hahaha
[00:55] <sudormrf> Gallomimia, based off of what I am describing does it seem like the UUID went wonky?
[00:55] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: That would do it. That would mean that systemd would never remount it rw.
[00:55] <Gallomimia> sudormrf: the mount command is supposed to have 2 options. since you only gave it one, it's searching for the rest of the data in your /etc/fstab
[00:55] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: sudo mount -o remount,rw /
[00:55] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, ok I am going to modify the fstab
[00:55] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, yeah, that is what gave me the UUID error
[00:56] <sudormrf> so I will need to modify the fstab with the right UUIDs for both /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda5
[00:57] <sudormrf> rebooting to the liveCD.  woop woop
[00:58] <Gallomimia> if you fixed the problem, should reboot to the installed system
[00:58] <BillTheKid> I wonder how many ppl are from livecd in here :p
[00:58] <sudormrf> Gallomimia, I was in the installed system.  rebooting to the livecd to try the fix (ro fs means can't modify fstab), will reboot after that
[00:58] <sudormrf> one sec :_
[00:58] <sudormrf> :)
[00:58] <Gallomimia> heh. probably lots. but its usually recommended to use a separate system to connect to IRC while you troubleshoot boot problems
[00:58] <Gallomimia> sudormrf: ohhhhh of course
[00:59] <Gallomimia> what's broken about the fstab tho?
[00:59] <sYmbio> hi, anyone know how to have one exploitation system per session ? (if that's possible)
[00:59] <sudormrf> Gallomimia, wrong UUIDs for the drive
[00:59] <Gallomimia> by the way, the UUID is not required in fstab. its just better than /dev/sdXY
[00:59] <Gallomimia> hm. wonder how that happened
[01:00] <sudormrf> Gallomimia, yes I know, but I am using them as a pointer
[01:00] <sudormrf> I do as well xD
[01:00] <Gallomimia> oh well
[01:00] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: uh, how far along is it?
[01:02] <BillTheKid> i am running it one more time to see what is going to report
[01:02] <BillTheKid> then try fsck
[01:02] <BillTheKid> then mount
[01:02] <BillTheKid> then pray to al lthe gods
[01:02] <Gallomimia> then reboot and make backups
[01:03] <BillTheKid> if I tell u that yesterday my dropbox filled up and deleted a bunch of stuff? :p
[01:03] <sudormrf> ok, fstab modified, rebooting now
[01:04] <Gallomimia> oh dear :( dropbox isn't that good of a backup system
[01:04] <sudormrf> no it isn't
[01:04] <Gallomimia> they get to look thru all your files!
[01:04] <sudormrf> ^^
[01:05] <Gallomimia> backups need to be physically in your hands. or they're not really backups. they're more like wishing upon a star.
[01:05] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: i hope you'll consider reading some of the writings of one Richard Stallman
[01:05] <sudormrf> well...that was odd
[01:05] <sudormrf> ok
[01:06] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: i don't upload unencrypted sensitive stuff :p
[01:06] <BillTheKid> the rest are papers and shit that I collect. :p
[01:06] <SchrodingersScat> !info duplicity
[01:06] <BillTheKid> but good points you raised...
[01:06] <sudormrf> !language
[01:06] <SchrodingersScat> duplicity can gpg encrypt and then use dropbox/etc as a backend, so you don't have to trust them, just gpg
[01:06] <BillTheKid> "they're more like wishing upon a star."
[01:06] <BillTheKid> that's hilarious
[01:06] <Gallomimia> oops yeah. no swearing allowed :/
[01:06] <sudormrf> Gallomimia, going to change the uuid to just /dev/sda1
[01:06] <BillTheKid> ok check did not complain
[01:07] <Gallomimia> i've tripped on that rule more than once
[01:07] <Gallomimia> sudormrf: it should suffice to get things going. i think it's just to keep from having the bios goof something up on you when hardware gets added or changed
[01:07] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: Don't do that. UUIDs are used for a reason.
[01:08] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, it dropped me to emergency mode...
[01:08] <sudormrf> rebooted back to the livecd
[01:08] <Gallomimia> Jordan_U: i'd like to read about that reason
[01:08] <BillTheKid> i can see my drive!
[01:09] <Gallomimia> awesome
[01:10] <BillTheKid> do u have a "buy me a beer button?"
[01:10] <Gallomimia> ah, no i don't
[01:10] <Gallomimia> also, i don't drink so, i'm trying to give some beer away
[01:10] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: Please pastebin your /etc/fstab, with the corrext UUIDs.
[01:10] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, ok.  one sec
[01:10] <BillTheKid> there is a buy mea coffee button too
[01:10] <Gallomimia> sudormrf: uuid's are not something you need to keep secret
[01:11] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: i'm going for the reboot
[01:11] <Gallomimia> well i've neglected to set one up. hearing its fixed is all i want
[01:11] <BillTheKid> hopefully I'll login and thank you once more
[01:11] <sudormrf> Gallomimia, I know
[01:12] <Jordan_U> Gallomimia: Device enumeration is not deterministic. What is /dev/sda1 on one boot might be /dev/sdb1 on another. Especially (but not only) if you throw removable media into the mix.
[01:13] <sudormrf> was checking something.  rebooting to livecd now
[01:13] <sudormrf> one moment
[01:16] <BillTheKid> it worked!!!
[01:17] <BillTheKid> who knows how many files were deleted...
[01:17] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, ok so blkid (for reference): http://paste.ubuntu.com/22979238, and fstab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22979242/
[01:17] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: guess what I'll be doing now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g76DUy7jKY
[01:18] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, rebooting with the fstab that way drops me to emergency mode
[01:18] <sudormrf> if i revert the fstab back to the old UUIDs it doesn't drop me to emergency mode
[01:22] -zifql:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE!                                                                      #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE!
[01:26] <BillTheKid> bye guys!
[01:26] <BillTheKid> thanks again A LOT for your help
[01:31] <sarek> whats it called when you can like ssh(or access however) into a remote computer and that computer's localhost or like <IP_ADDRESS> is now yours? Not the other way around
[01:32] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: I don't think it should make a difference, but try adding the option "defaults" to make it "defaults,errors=remount-ro".
[01:33] <sudormrf> ok, one sec
[01:33] <orlock> sarek: local/remote port forwarding via ssh
[01:33] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, done, rebooting now
[01:35] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, I think it is going to fail again
[01:36] <Guest65478> hi
[01:36] <Guest65478> quit
[01:36] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, it dropped me to emergency mode
[01:36] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: Check dmesg at the "emergency mode" shell.
[01:37] <Jordan_U> sudormrf: And journalctl, if available.
[01:37] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, ok, I just did ctrl+d, but I am sure it will fail again
[01:38] <sudormrf> just rebooted
[01:38] <sudormrf> letting it fail again
[01:39] <sarek> uh thanks orlock ill google that
[01:40] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, how to check journalctl
[01:40] <sudormrf> just journalctl?
[01:40] <MannyLNJ> [Advice Needed] One of my mail providers does not offer IMAP only POP. I want to run my own IMAP server so I can access my mail from my Tablet. I want to still use my mail provider's outgoing mail service. What is the best way to do this on Ubuntu?
[01:42] <sudormrf> Jordan_U, not seeing anything that tells me why it's happeing in dmesg, could be missing something
[01:43] <sudormrf> I see in journalctl where it is mounting it as ro
[01:44] <sudormrf> there is a start up job that is timing out
[01:44] <sudormrf> but that is because I unplugged the drive
[01:46] <sudormrf> annnd now it's working
[01:46] <sudormrf> lol
[01:46] <sudormrf> I suppose the UUID + that external drives really were the kicker
[01:46] <sudormrf> hte UUIDs obviously being the most important
[01:53] <mjs7231> Anyone know if I install VMWare and Qemu on the same machine, will they work together, or will the Kernel get mad?
[02:02] <clintmint> which version of Ubuntu should i use if I need to use steam with AMD proprietary drivers
[02:02] <tgm4883> clintmint: probably 14.04
[02:02] <clintmint> ok thats what i concluded ws well
[02:02] <tgm4883> clintmint: it depends on what AMD card you have though
[02:03] <clintmint> r9 270x
[02:03] <tgm4883> clintmint: hmm, I think that's supported by AMDGPU
[02:03] <clintmint> the open source drivers have been working fine on Fedora 24 but since I started trying to play team fortress it freezes everytime
[02:04] <clintmint> so I need to switch distros
[02:04] <clintmint> AMDGPU is the open source version right
[02:05] <tgm4883> clintmint: I'm not super clear on that. AMDGPU are the ones developed by AMD, radeon is the open source ones
[02:05] <tgm4883> although AMDGPU is open source as well?
[02:05] <tgm4883> I've not been following the AMD stuff super close as I have an nvidia card and probably won't upgrade for 2-3 more months
[02:06] <clintmint> yea its the latest effor by amd to open source it
[02:06] <clintmint> per https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AMDGPU
[02:07] <clintmint> alright im just gonna try 14.04 again lets see what happens :S
[02:08] <tgm4883> ok
[02:08]  * tgm4883 goes back to launching kerbals to certain doom
[02:25] <ac2> hey, some of the documentation is little unclear, but is somewhere online that breaksdown package difference between ubuntu minimal vs a server install?
[02:27] <tgm4883> ac2: minimal downloads packages from the internet during installation based on what you select
[02:28] <ac2> tgm4883: similar to a mini.iso install?
[02:28] <tgm4883> ac2: yea https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[02:31] <ac2> tgm4883: I guess what I've struggled to fully understand is the necessary steps/installs to take a minimal install and make it the equivalent to a server install
[02:32] <ac2> tgm4883: usually when I install a fresh ubuntu server image I just select openssh-server and thats it
[02:32] <tgm4883> ac2: you'd need to install the server packages, not sure if there is a metapackage for server
[02:33] <ac2> tgm4883: recently I did a mini.iso install on a vps and there was a server package listed amongst various desktop gui environments, but I'm not sure what that server package includes and what I could be missing
[02:34] <tgm4883> ac2: well that server package from the mini.iso would get you ubuntu-server
[02:36] <ac2> tgm4883: and to make sure the minimal is only command line?
[02:39] <tgm4883> ac2: it can be, if you don't select the desktop stuff
[02:39] <tgm4883> I'd probably just download and install ubuntu-server though
[02:40] <ac2> tgm4883: perfect, thanks for help.  really appreciate you outlining some of this
[02:45] <Guest29230> hello everyone
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[02:48] <miharu> hello.
[02:51] <miharu> So... anyone can point me to resources about gdm3, GNOME, and display manager?
[02:51] <tootights> Hello, MTW
[02:51] <miharu> preferably something that can be digested by a new ubuntu user.
[02:54] <tootights> the edges on my prints are curling up. I've just switched to ABS and its still an issue. Could someone suggest some things a should try to minimize that?
[03:01] <tootights> Hello, MTW
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[03:19] <FoeHammered> I'm trying to install Aleph One, which has libboost-all-dev as a dependency. This shows up as a broken package for me, and my efforts to nail down what in it is broken have been a bit abortive. It has been suggested my system is borked somehow. How do I proceed?
[03:20] <racoonsrage> hello
[03:20] <Bashing-om> !info libboost-all-dev
[03:21] <Bashing-om> FoeHammered: show us in a pastebin ' apt-cache policy libboost-all-dev ' . Then we see where we go from there .
[03:22] <FoeHammered> http://pastebin.com/2GusbVih
[03:23] <FoeHammered> Bashing-om, there's the pastebin.
[03:24] <Bashing-om> FoeHammered: K; and what results in attempting to install ' sudo apt install libboost-all-dev ' ?
[03:25] <FoeHammered> Interesting question. I'd been using the apt-get command.
[03:25] <FoeHammered> Bashing-om,  libboost-all-dev : Depends: libboost-python-dev but it is not going to be installed
[03:25] <FoeHammered> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[03:25] <tgm4883> FoeHammered: pastebin the full output
[03:26] <Bashing-om> FoeHammered: apt is the re-written apt-get ..
[03:26] <FoeHammered> http://pastebin.com/UnkPnPJ5
[03:28] <tgm4883> FoeHammered: follow the chain, what happens if you 'sudo apt install libboost-python-dev'
[03:30] <FoeHammered> libboost-all-dev -> libboost-python-dev -> libboost-python1.58-dev -> python-dev -> python2.7-dev* -> libpython2.7-dev*
[03:30] <FoeHammered> * also libpython-dev, * also libexpat1-dev
[03:30] <tgm4883> FoeHammered: Does one of those give you a better reason as to why it can't be installed?
[03:31] <FoeHammered> Not so far, tgm4883.
[03:31] <FoeHammered> A problem with my repositories or something, perhaps?
[03:32] <tgm4883> FoeHammered: perhaps if you added some weird ones
[03:32] <trism> FoeHammered: do you have -updates and security disabled? software-properties-gtk updates tab
[03:32] <Bashing-om> tgm4883: FoeHammered Do we have a packaging conflict ( my reference is 14.04 ) apt-cache rdepends libboost-python-dev >> Reverse Depends: libboost-python-dev:i386 , compare : apt-cache depends libboost-python-dev >> Conflicts: libboost-python-dev:i386 ?? Do I understand this correctly ??
[03:33] <FoeHammered> That's odd... I've got it set to automatically check for updates daily, but the Install Updates From has nothing checked.
[03:33] <FoeHammered> Bashing-om: To be honest, I didn't quite follow the question.
[03:34] <Bashing-om> FoeHammered: Await the knowledge of tgm4883 I do not see how it is possible to have a dependency and it still be in conflict .
[03:35] <FoeHammered> tgm4883, shall I simply try to install something random?
[03:36] <tgm4883> FoeHammered: what's the output of 'sudo apt update'
[03:37] <FoeHammered> tgm4883, http://pastebin.com/04XJX31Z
[03:38] <tgm4883> FoeHammered: well that's interesting
[03:38] <FoeHammered> Looks like it's all openxcom and wine stuff remaining to be updated.
[03:40] <tgm4883> FoeHammered: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[03:41] <FoeHammered> Uh... looks like I don't have to pastebin it. Just says: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial main universe
[03:42] <FoeHammered> That seems small.
[03:42] <tgm4883> FoeHammered: yea that's not enough I don't think I would bet it's looking for files in another repo
[03:43] <FoeHammered> sources.list.d has the openxcom and wine-staging stuff inside it.
[03:43] <FoeHammered> Nothing else, though.
[03:46] <tgm4883> FoeHammered: well without going down that chain, you could try adding the other repos back in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[03:48] <trism> FoeHammered: check the two boxes in software-properties-gtk to add back -updates and security, run sudo apt-get update; and try installing your lib again
[03:50] <FoeHammered> Much better so far.
[03:50] <FoeHammered> tgm4883, trism, this time it doesn't balk and complain of broken packages.
[03:50] <FoeHammered> I may yet encounter more trouble. I wonder how that happened, anyway... Probably followed some line of thought, fixed one problem by breaking everything else.
[03:51] <FoeHammered> I may yet find out!
[03:52] <FoeHammered> That's a strange number of ping timeouts.
[03:54] <SchrodingersScat> FoeHammered: everything is strange, when you're a stranger.
[03:54] <FoeHammered> SchrodingersScat: S'truth. I've been using IRC since childhood, and Ubuntu for years, and I'm shockingly incompetent with both.
[04:27] <outlawkev>  kids
[04:27] <outlawkev> hi
[04:27] <outlawkev> I need help installing ubuntu
[04:27] <cfhowlett> "kids"?  really?
[04:28] <outlawkev> Toshiba A305 older laptop, running win 7
[04:28] <outlawkev> well, kids is all a state of mind really
[04:28] <BlackFlag> How to change desktop environment in Ubuntu 16.04?
[04:29] <outlawkev> I downloaded ubuntu and it was saved as ISO file
[04:29] <cfhowlett> BlackFlag, install the other environment.  logout.  choose the other DE.  login.
[04:29] <krwq> outlawkey, read the ubuntu website, it has instructions
[04:29] <cfhowlett> !install | outlawkev
[04:29] <outlawkev> burned to a dvd, and tried to run it, dvd will only read as a file waiting to be burned
[04:29] <BlackFlag> Its not working like in 14.04. The ubuntu logo is not appearing., cfhowlett
[04:30] <FoeHammered> Yay! Thanks, tgm4883  trism, Bashing-om! It works!
[04:30] <cfhowlett> BlackFlag, what DE did you install?
[04:30] <outlawkev> I read the install directions
[04:30] <FoeHammered> I'm'a leave now.
[04:30] <BlackFlag> LXDE
[04:30] <krwq> outawkev: use usb drive
[04:30] <BlackFlag> cfhowlett, LXDE
[04:30] <outlawkev> so many moving parts to keep track of ............
[04:30] <cfhowlett> BlackFlag, logout.  you should see a gear / logo type image on the page.  left or right click on that for the dropdown menu
[04:31] <BlackFlag> cfhowlett, I will try again... ty
[04:32] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[04:39] <BlackFlag> cfhowlett, the logo doesn' appear. I googled and I found this guy with the same issue and the picture on the link shows how the login screen looks like https://askubuntu.com/questions/696748/how-to-change-desktop-environment-in-ubuntu-15-10
[04:40] <cfhowlett> BlackFlag, are on on a virtual machines??
[04:40] <BlackFlag> cfhowlett, no
[04:49] <Nirvash> Hey everybody! I just installed Ubuntu via Crouton and I'm seeing (precise)nirvash@localhost in every terminal window. How do I remove (precise) from the hostname?
[05:13] <linux> Hi
[05:14] <linux> How I can convert my current ubuntu to Iso file for install it on another computer?
[05:16] <cfhowlett> !cloning | linux
[05:18] <linux> Thank you.
[05:18] <cfhowlett> happy2help! linuxgeek
[05:31] <Rexy> Hey Guys, I've run into a weird problem with Ubuntu Desktop 16.04.1 With a fresh install and I installed I3wm, I removed all the unity stuff and tried to configure LightDM to start i3 instead. Problem is that A) The config file is blank, and B) when I open the backup file in /usr/share/doc/Lightdm/lightdm.conf.gz it comes up in unreadable characters. Any ideas? I'm at a loss of even what to
[05:31] <Rexy> google
[05:34] <vroap> Rexy: What's the output of "file /usr/share/doc/Lightdm/Lightdm.conf.gz?
[05:34] <vroap> Rexy: What's the output of "file /usr/share/doc/Lightdm/Lightdm.conf.gz"?
[05:34] <Rexy> vroap give me a moment I'm just booting up the system. When I went I used cat it transformed my system into unreadable chars
[05:35] <Rexy> vroap "gzip compressed data, max compression, from Unix"
[05:35] <Rexy> oh wait a second
[05:35] <Rexy> god damnit
[05:35] <rovap> Sorry my cellular connection is a bit dodgy
[05:35] <rovap> What?
[05:36] <Rexy> rovap: It's a gzip archive, not a text file
[05:36] <rovap> Yeah
[05:36] <rovap> I thought so
[05:36] <rovap> It's early. I'm tired. I just wanted to make sure
[05:36] <Rexy> What app should I use to extract it
[05:37] <Rexy> Been having nothing but problems making i3 my manager
[05:37] <rovap> Hmm :/
[05:37] <rovap> Hold on a sec
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> Rexy: perhaps try in #i3 ?
[05:39] <Rexy> lotuspsychje: The problem seems to be with LightDM rather than I3
[05:39] <Rexy> I'll mess around with it, but I finally got a config file for it
[05:39] <rovap> Rexy: the syntax for gzip is "gzip -d <Filename here.gz"
[05:40] <rovap> Rexy: the syntax for gzip is "gzip -d <Filename here>.gz" **
[05:40] <electroninja> hello
[05:40] <Rexy> rovap: Thanks already got it extracted. Rebooting now to see if it'll boot to I3
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> Rexy: talk to ducasse, he has i3 and unity removed aswell
[05:40] <rovap> Rexy: okay  cool
[05:41] <rovap> Hello electroninja
[05:41] <Rexy> lotuspsychje: It seems to have more to do with me messing around. I'll get it sorted
[05:41] <Rexy> Aha it works now. :D
[05:41] <rovap> Great! :D
[05:41] <Rexy> Problem was that the lightdm.conf file was empty, and when I removed unity it must've taken it with it
[05:41] <rovap> Oh okay :)
[05:42] <Rexy> If I was to install it on a laptop, and use the "Install next to X" option, would it mess with my partitions?
[05:42] <Rexy> I'd love to have ubuntu on my laptop but I can't delete the recovery partition due to it having the product key I need incase I take my laptop in to claim warranty
[05:43] <ruijanpallas> Morning everyone! I'm using my ps3 sixaxis controller with xboxdrv to play some NES roms and everything works fine, pressure sensors and all. BUT the left D-pad is not responsing as analog input, while all the other buttons are. Any ideas?
[05:45] <cfhowlett> Rexy, windows + virtualbox + ubuntu = ubuntu on your laptop
[05:48] <Rexy> cfhowlett Thanks for the suggestion but that's no fun!
[05:50] <Rexy> Anyways thanks for the help guys!
[06:13] <jcjordyn120> go join #thelinuxgeekcommunity
[06:26] <ruijanpallas> Morning everyone! I'm using my ps3 sixaxis controller with xboxdrv to play some NES roms and everything works fine, pressure sensors and all. BUT the left D-pad is not responsing as analog input, while all the other buttons are. Any ideas?
[06:27] <backbox> hey everybody
[06:28] <beremaran> hey
[06:28] <backbox> from which part of this globe do u belong
[06:28] <beremaran> europe
[06:29] <backbox> trying to instal this distro into my pc but its giving me hard time
[06:30] <beremaran> what kind of hard time?
[06:30] <backbox> its not detecting my HD
[06:31] <backbox> So cant install it
[06:31] <beremaran> wow
[06:32] <beremaran> normally, any distros doesn't support any hd
[06:32] <beremaran> what :D
[06:43] <dwago> Hello all
[07:13] <V7> dwago: o/
[07:20] <DNS> hi... i installed for a friend the 2nd time xenial next to windows8.1 on a sony vaio.. but everytime windows boots the mbr is gone... any ideas how to fix that?
[07:24] <DNS> uefi is enabled, but secure boot is turned off tho
[07:31] <kk__> hi, I am using 16.04 LTS on my lenevo laptop. my system is getting locked automatically once I unlock the sysytem hardly it wil open for 6 to 7 sexonds and lockes her self automatically I have already disabled the locking featute inspite of that it continously lockes
[07:31] <kk__> dont no how to resolve it
[07:31] <kk__> can any obe please advise me on this
[07:33] <kk__> even I tried to boot using earlier kernel but still I am facing the same issue
[07:35] <kk__> hi, I am using 16.04 LTS on my lenevo laptop. my system is getting locked automatically once I unlock the sysytem hardly it wil open for 6 to 7 sexonds and lockes her self automatically I have already disabled the locking featute inspite of that it continously lockes
[07:37] <Slartibart> I've created a .sh file with some things that I need to run from time to time. Among them are a couple of systemctl service calls, needing sudo privileges, e.g 'systemctl start courier-authdemon'. When I run that line in bash I'm asked for my password, but when I run 'sudo start_dev.sh' I get 'Failed to start courier-authdemon.service: Unit courier-authdemon.service not found.'
[07:38] <Slartibart> What's the difference here?? Shouldn't sudo mybashfile.sh run the commands in it with sudo privileges?
[07:38] <Triffid_Hunter> Slartibart: perhaps environment not set up properly or something? try sudo -i
[07:40] <Slartibart> Triffid_Hunter: Ok, I entered the path to the sh file now alone in bash. The script ran,but I got the same errors(Unit not found for all service start calls)
[07:41] <Slartibart> (..after sudo -i, I mean)
[07:41] <Slartibart> I'm stumped.
[07:44] <Slartibart> Could it be because of systemctl vs upstart in some way?? But it works entering the systemctl start lines one by one in bash..
[07:45] <ikonia> Slartibart: it has to be a typo in the script
[07:45] <ikonia> cut and paste the line in the script
[07:47] <Slartibart> I created a file for courier-authdemon in /etc/systemd/system/ (empty, touch /etc/systemd/system/courier-authdemon.service). Now I get 'Failed to start courier-authdemon.service: Unit courier-authdemon.service is masked.' instead, while the other service line messages are as before.
[07:47] <Slartibart> ikonia: Ok, hang on
[07:48] <Slartibart> http://pastie.org/private/d7sohc3w8ltzfchm5bfqng
[07:48] <Slartibart> I know there are two lines with courier-authdemon, I just wanted to test for differences.
[07:49] <Slartibart> Same message returned for both lines, anyways
[07:49] <cihhan> hi all! im trying to set my ubuntu server date -- it is 1 hour late. I am trying ntpdate but it s not updating. I am trying date -s "time info here" but somehow this is not working either. do you have any suggestions?
[07:50] <DNS> it seems to be a bad time for asking questions
[07:50] <Triffid_Hunter> cihhan: timezone set wrong?
[07:50] <QuestionBoy95> Hello, is it possible to install triple boot? ubuntu, windows, kali-linux
[07:51] <DNS> QuestionBoy95: sure
[07:51] <cihhan> Triffid_Hunter, it seems to be correct
[07:51] <ikonia> Slartibart: your paste isn't working, so I can't comment
[07:52] <Slartibart> ikonia: "Isn't working"? As in broken link or what? Strange, I'll double check.
[07:53] <cihhan> Triffid_Hunter, it shows the same -- i have 2 more machines and they seem to accept it correctly... but the 3rd one is a bit stubborn.... :@
[07:53] <ikonia> invalid link
[07:54] <cihhan>  Triffid_Hunter: So any ideas?
[07:54] <Slartibart> ikonia: No it's not. Some cloudflare or something issues for pastie.org it seems, I got 500 responses at first but now it loads for me.
[07:54] <Slartibart> Thanks for trying though
[07:56] <slazer> hi, I've some Windows apps that fail to run under Wine Staging (1.9), is there some possibility to use full virtualization (my nb has VT-x), but not the full-blown VMWare-like Windows os?
[07:56] <slazer> performance is not an issue here...
[07:57] <ikonia> Slartibart: I'm not sure the relevence of that paste (I can see it now)
[07:57] <ikonia> Slartibart: and I've no idea why you are using both "service" and "systemctl"
[07:57] <slazer> at least Windows 7 with .NET 4.5 is required, Windows 10 is supported as well
[08:06] <javid_> llo
[08:06] <javid_> hello dero
[08:06] <Triffid_Hunter> cihhan: no idea, sorry
[08:07] <deronnax> hello
[08:07] <gebruiker> what kernel is best nowadays for desktop ? Pf kernel... liquorix ?
[08:07] <ikonia> standard
[08:07] <Triffid_Hunter> slazer: what are you gonna virtualize if not windows OS? ReactOS perhaps?
[08:07] <ikonia> the default that ships with ubuntu gebruiker
[08:07] <javid_> ip address
[08:07] <slazer> Triffid_Hunter, I don't understand the question, please rephrase.
[08:08] <cihhan> Triffid_Hunter: Unfortunately nothing seems to be working fine... I have updated the timezone just in case, but still date is not setting and ntpdate is not working either...
[08:08] <Triffid_Hunter> cihhan: you are using sudo, right?
[08:08] <cihhan> as root
[08:09] <slazer> Triffid_Hunter, ReactOS is a full-blown linux distro to enable Windows apps virtualization, right? The thing is, I have Ubuntu now..
[08:10] <Triffid_Hunter> slazer: ReactOS is an open source implementation of the windows kernel and some of the libraries
[08:10] <slazer> Triffid_Hunter, jesus christ"
[08:11] <Triffid_Hunter> slazer: for windows apps to work, something must provide the windows libraries.. you're saying wine doesn't work, so your other option is to run it under windows
[08:11] <ducasse> slazer: you can either use wine or full virtualization of windows.
[08:11] <slazer> Triffid_Hunter, does it work? have you tried?
[08:12] <slazer> Triffid_Hunter, I have never expected Windows kernel to be implemented in opensource..kind of shocked me, sry
[08:12] <Triffid_Hunter> slazer: never tried ReactOS, don't have much interest in windows stuff
[08:12] <Triffid_Hunter> slazer:heh you underestimate the bloody-minded determination of some open source hackers
[08:13] <slazer> Triffid_Hunter, me neither, Windows sucks, but there is some stuff for my mom that is kinda platform-proprietary..
[08:15] <slazer> hmm, so afayk there is no middle-choice between "full VMWare-like virtualization of Windows" and "dedicated Linux distribution"? something like containers? somthing like in Qubes OS?
[08:16] <slazer> (to run on existing linux distro, such as Ubuntu)
[08:16] <ducasse> slazer: no.
[08:16] <Triffid_Hunter> slazer: it's called wine
[08:17] <slazer> apart from Wine, obviously :D
[08:17] <ikonia> wine is not a solution
[08:17] <ikonia> win 19
[08:18] <slazer> Qubes does full hardware virtualization of Windows OS, I am surprised there is no such thing in the linux ecosystem..
[08:18] <ikonia> slazer: there are many virtualzation options for linux
[08:19] <slazer> ikonia, you probably mean VMWare-like, right?
[08:19] <ikonia> no
[08:19] <ikonia> slazer: what's youre actual question
[08:19] <ikonia> (or the problem you are trying to solve)
[08:20] <slazer> ikonia, a program fails to run on Wine, what are the possibilities (using the same OS, that is Ubuntu 16.04)
[08:20] <ikonia> none - because it's meant for a different operating system
[08:20] <ikonia> slazer: what is the application you are trying to run
[08:20] <slazer> ikonia, that was helpful
[08:20] <ikonia> slazer: it's realitic,
[08:20] <slazer> ikonia, its a proprietary application..no chance to be ported in any way ever
[08:21] <javid_> yeah
[08:21] <ikonia> slazer: so, run it in windows then
[08:21] <slazer> ikonia, and..its crucial for my moms business, of course
[08:21] <slazer> ikonia, never"
[08:21] <ikonia> never what ?
[08:21] <ikonia> slazer: then run it on windows
[08:21] <slazer> ikonia, never abuse my nb with windows ever
[08:22] <slazer> Im free
[08:22] <jokke> i tried setting the timezone on a ubuntu server (16.04) to utc, but it still shows localtime as CEST
[08:22] <jokke> any idea why?
[08:22] <slazer> so..Windows is not a choice, anything else?
[08:22] <ikonia> slazer: then you're being a fool
[08:22] <ikonia> slazer: you're taking a petty "windows is evil" stance, while building a business around a propritary windows only app
[08:23] <ikonia> slazer: grow up - run a windows instance and run your business
[08:23] <slazer> ikonia, if we gonna think this way, the Windows reign will never end
[08:23] <ikonia> slazer: it already has
[08:23] <slazer> ikonia, Windows is not a choice!
[08:24] <ikonia> slazer then pay for someone to write a new application
[08:24] <ikonia> there is your other choice
[08:24] <slazer> ikonia, no its not..windows now runs Linux applications
[08:24] <ikonia> slazer: that is a totally different situation
[08:24] <slazer> ikonia, linux its taking its toes finally..
[08:24] <ikonia> taking it's toes ??
[08:24] <ikonia> what are you talking about
[08:24] <slazer> ikonia, games are being ported..
[08:24] <ikonia> no they are not
[08:24] <jokke> slazer: reactos
[08:24] <slazer> ikonia, steam is available for linux now
[08:24] <ikonia> right - and it runs a lot of things through wine
[08:25] <ikonia> and it's not really "working"
[08:25] <jokke> steam is totally working
[08:25] <slazer> ikonia, there are some native games
[08:25] <jokke> *many native games
[08:25] <ikonia> slazer: look, you've built a business around a windows only app, your options as an adult "run it in a windows based OS, eg: physical/VM" - swap that app out to something that works on linux
[08:25] <jokke> anyway
[08:25] <jokke> slazer: http://reactos.org/
[08:25] <slazer> ikonia, I don't have money for the licence
[08:26] <slazer> ikonia, eol
[08:26] <slazer> jokke, yep, Ill probably try that
[08:26] <nwe> hello, does ubuntu has package for kafka ? or must I build them by myself?
[08:26] <ikonia> slazer: you won't have a business if you don't get the money
[08:26] <ikonia> as you've built a business around a windows only app
[08:26] <DNS> ehm sorry for repeat but i would like to know if i can fix that: i installed for a friend the 2nd time xenial next to windows8.1 on a sony vaio.. but everytime windows boots the mbr is gone... any ideas how to fix that?
[08:26] <ikonia> either way, this is way outside the scope of #ubuntu now
[08:27] <jokke> i actually had a #ubuntu question!
[08:27] <jokke> :)
[08:27] <slazer> ikonia, I was looking for Ubuntu solution..you advised to use Windows..
[08:27] <DNS> not sure if that is uefi or winblows issue
[08:27] <jokke> slazer: i have no experience whatsoever with that os though. It just seems to be exactly what you're looking for. I don't even know if it's at all usable.
[08:28] <slazer> jokke, okay, Ill give it a go and see how that goes..maybe write about that on my blog afterwards
[08:28] <slazer> thanks anyway for all suggestions
[08:28] <jokke> do that :)
[08:32] <javid_> nihao
[08:39] <Imperator> ex-chat
[08:40] <QuestionBoy95> ni hao ma
[08:41] <QuestionBoy95> how to get rid of gaming addiction and make it a programming addiction
[08:41] <QuestionBoy95> :l
[08:42] <nagyf> start programming games ;)
[08:46]  * l9 yawns
[08:48] <QuestionBoy95> nagyf:  any book recommendations in java/c/c++ ?
[08:48] <l9> what other diagram programs are worth checking out?
[08:48] <l9> QuestionBoy95: depends on what you want todo
[08:48] <QuestionBoy95> l9:  game programming with SDL in c for example
[08:48] <QuestionBoy95> or whatever you suggest
[08:52] <nagyf> QuestionBoy95: Nothing, sorry, I'm not a game programmer myself
[08:53] <l9> http://gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/3637/what-is-a-good-book-to-start-programming-a-2d-c-game
[08:54] <nagyf> just a quick google: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/388242/the-definitive-c-book-guide-and-list
[08:54] <nagyf> seems like a pretty good list. Not game programming though, just general c++ programming books
[08:55] <Imperator> I suggest you look at Brackeys on youtube he is using Unity with C# also try the subreddit /r/gamedev
[09:05] <te_lanus> see lutris got an update :D https://lutris.net/
[09:13] <VinceVon> good morning
[09:13] <VinceVon> quick question regarding cifs
[09:13] <VinceVon> I can mount my drives by doing sudo mount -a
[09:13] <VinceVon> and the fstab file works fine, mounts all drives existing on the network
[09:13] <QuestionBoy95> alright thanks nagyf
[09:14] <VinceVon> the thing is, I managed to (once) make them mount upon clicking on the directory
[09:14] <adrijan> hello
[09:14] <VinceVon> instead of terminal and mount command
[09:14] <adrijan> anyone tried to set up a local repository on a offline machine
[09:14] <adrijan> that was working? :)
[09:15] <VinceVon> when I click on the dir now, it just says only root can mount
[09:16] <QuestionBoy95> thanks l9  there was a nice link: http://www.lazyfoo.net/SDL_tutorials/index.php
[09:17] <VinceVon> well, nevermind, found the user/users option for cifs
[09:17] <VinceVon> it's working
[09:24] <FreeSailor> hi
[09:25] <TheNH813> Why aren't SVG icons working? They show up as a grey square with a question mark. How do I get my application icon to work? Render it to .png first?
[09:28] <TheNH813> Dosen't Unity support SVG Icons?
[09:42] <Gue-clone> of course not
[09:42] <`mist> heya fellas, using xrandr -r 144 sets all the monitors refreshrate to 144. using xrandr --output DisplayPort-0 -r 144 does nothing
[09:49] <TheNH813> mist: That sounds like a bug or driver issue.
[09:50] <TheNH813> Or maybe it dosen't directly support controlling DisplayPort graphics.
[09:51] <`mist> =/
[09:51] <`mist> could it be because it is all one big screen?
[09:52] <TheNH813> What do you mean by one big screen?
[09:52] <`mist> http://pastebin.com/WHAFZ1w4
[09:52] <`mist> at the top it says "Screen 0"
[09:54] <TheNH813> That's a possibility. I believe they may all need to be at the same refresh rate for Xinerama and similar extended desktop modes.
[09:54] <`mist> yeah i want them to be 3 separate screens and not one massive one
[09:54] <TheNH813> Can you set the refresh rate of the DVI screens individually?
[09:55] <`mist> haven't tried... one sec
[09:57] <TheNH813> Any results?
[09:58] <`mist> uhm, just setting the refreshrate doesn't work
[09:58] <`mist> trying to figure out if i need to set resolution aswell
[09:59] <TheNH813> Now, by having the displays seperate, do you mean as in different applications on each or do you mean a different user can login on each?
[09:59] <TheNH813> (I'm looking some stuff up, just getting a hint of info)
[10:01] <`mist> oops =D
[10:02] <`mist> i managed to do something and everything went black =)
[10:02] <TheNH813> That's the joy of trying to "correct" graphing settings. :P
[10:03] <TheNH813> Have you tried using the Displays utility?
[10:04] <TheNH813> Maybe you could check what it sets the parameters to and then customize the command.
[10:04] <`mist> there is no way of setting the refresh rate in there
[10:05] <`mist> hmm i wonder if i just managed to set the refreshrate
[10:05] <`mist> ah there we go
[10:06] <TheNH813> You got it working?
[10:06] <`mist> yeah you need to set the mode with the rate
[10:06] <TheNH813> Ah, that makes sense.
[10:06] <`mist> "xrandr --verbose --output DisplayPort-2 --mode 1920x1080 --rate 144" that did it
[10:07] <TheNH813> Sometimes setting things up is a bit tricky. Once you figure it out make sure to save that command in a text document.
[10:07] <TheNH813> Just incase of forgetfulness.
[10:07] <TheNH813> =)
[10:07] <`mist> yeah heh ^
[10:07] <`mist> ^^
[10:08] <TheNH813> Well, glad to hear you got it running at the right rate. I'l switch tabs and lurk until I get a notification. :D
[10:08] <`mist> thanks for the help TheNH813 =)
[10:08] <TheNH813> You're welcome.
[10:43] <freakyyy> hi all. is there a way i can remove this "click to open" thing where taskbar icons are placed? and instead put the taskbar icons to the upper right?
[10:43] <FBI> hack the source
[10:54] <omnist> hey
[10:55] <omnist> Hi jatt
[10:56] <omnist> Good evening
[11:10] <yancho> hi. isn't the /etc/hosts file to be read before the nameservers?
[11:11] <bekks> Depends on your system configuration.
[11:12] <yancho> i did <IP_ADDRESS> seminary.local
[11:13] <yancho> and <IP_ADDRESS> localhost
[11:13] <brunch875> Is there a reason why the folders in home start in uppercase?
[11:13] <yancho> but nslookup <IP_ADDRESS> is going to the router and is giving me the translation to the localhost of the router
[11:14] <Mion> brunch875: only a few do
[11:15] <Mion> brunch875: and they are a part of the freedesktop spec/recomendation
[11:21] <canobi> Hey all. Anybody here left with a non-working wired connection after today's updates? Went digging through the interweb, so far disabled IPv6 and set iommu=soft on grub, but no joy.
[11:21] <gtrt05> can anybody help me out when i try to shutdown it just hangs and does get past thee loading
[11:26] <canobi> gtrt05: <ctrl><alt><f1>, then login with your username/password, type in "poweroff" and that's it.
[11:29] <Vorap> canobi: don't you need sudo privileges to execute that? Or maybe that's my memory failing me
[11:29] <Vorap> Poweroff that is
[11:31] <canobi> Yes you do, sorry. So, needs to type in "sudo poweroff"
[11:34] <Vorap> No worries
[11:35] <C0rentin> Hi
[11:36] <Vorap> Heyo C0rentin
[11:37] <vantul> Hi, I use a VPN to connect to my workplace, but only need one terminal to use the VPN. Is it possible to only have the terminal use the VPN, and use my normal internet connection for all other programs, e.g. Firefox? I use the Cisco VPN client but a solution for any client would be appreciated as I might be able to adapt it or use that client instead
[11:40] <Dukas> sup
[11:40] <Vorap> Hey Dukas
[11:40] <rexwin_> I installed jitsi and video and chat works great. but when I click on share screen it says Permission Denied Failed to install desktop sharing extension
[11:41] <Dukas> is this program really useful?
[11:41] <Vorap> Dukas: what program? :)
[11:41] <Dukas> hexchat
[11:41] <cfhowlett> no
[11:42] <Dukas> whats the point of it anyway?
[11:42] <Vorap> I would recommend konversation or quassel, they are my personal favourites
[11:42] <cfhowlett> Dukas, this is ubuntu support.  irc is a chat app (obviously).  if it wasn't useful, you would not be here.
[11:43] <Dukas> oh ok
[11:43] <cfhowlett> other ubuntu questions, Dukas ?
[11:43] <Vorap> Dukas, hex chat is an irc client used to connect to irc servers. There are multiple channels here, you can see them when you type /list
[11:46] <Fr_Dae> Dukas
[11:46] <Fr_Dae> ?
[11:48] <barq> I get Hash Sum mismatch after updating 15.10 to 16.04 and running apt-get update. How can I fix this?
[11:48] <barq> si the mirror archive.ubuntu.com correct?
[11:48] <barq> is*
[11:50] <Schwarzbaer_> Hi. I'm on 14.04, and there doesn't seem to be a pip3. Where did that go?
[11:51] <Zimmer> Hi All
[11:51] <gtrt05> does anybody know what to do to stop my sutedown to stop hanging
[11:51] <gtrt05> shutdown*
[11:55] <ioria> !info python3-pip trusty | Schwarzbaer_
[11:55] <Schwarzbaer_> Thanks, ioria. apt-cache search didn't find that.
[11:56] <ioria>  Schwarzbaer_  really,   ? apt-cache policy python3-pip
[11:56] <Schwarzbaer_> ioria, well... apt-cache search pip3
[11:57] <ioria>  Schwarzbaer_  really,   not pip3, python3 ... pip
[11:57] <Schwarzbaer_> Well, the executable is pip3, so as not to clash with pip for Python 2.
[11:58] <ioria>  Schwarzbaer_   i see
[11:59] <rizwanchowdhury> Hi Everybody
[11:59] <cfhowlett> greetings rizwanchowdhury
[12:01] <rizwanchowdhury> My laptop model is HP 14-r008tx. I got some problem with hardwares n ubuntu 16.04. I had tried 14.05 also that was worst
 Did you tryied to follow the guide from HP site ?
[12:04] <ioria> !details | rizwanchowdhury
 yes I tried
[12:05] <rizwanchowdhury> @ubotta
 Please provide us more details..
[12:06] <barq> I update my sources list but still get hash sum mismatch during apt-get update after migrating to 16.04.
[12:07] <cfhowlett> barq, try using a differnt mirror
[12:07] <Deepfriedice> Is it just me, or is the SSL version of the Ubuntu site down?
[12:07] <ioria> rizwanchowdhury  is that you ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/810103/many-problems-with-ubuntu-16-04-1-on-hp-14-r008tx
[12:08] <cfhowlett> Deepfriedice, test it: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[12:09] <Deepfriedice> cfhowlett: That doesn't seem to differentiate between http and https.
[12:10] <ioria> Zimmer, maybe you'll have more chances  on the public channel ... :þ
[12:11] <cfhowlett> barq, fwiw: I'm now getting all kinds of errors whereas earlier today, things were perfect
[12:14] <rizwanchowdhury>  <Zimmer> Laptop model: HP 14-r008tx, Ubuntu 16.04.1. Installed perfectly. But when I close lid it doesnt come back I have to force stop. Wi-fi not showing any signal, bluetooth saying adapter not found. Asked on ask.ubuntu but none had given any solution. Tried many solution on internet but couldnt find any suit able one... laptop contains Ralink RT3290 bluetooth and wifi combo
 yes
[12:18] <Guest63624> hey, the unity setting “Turn screen off when inactive” only makes my screen go black and doesn't actually turn off/standby my monitor
[12:18] <Guest63624> what do I need to do to make it turn off the monitor for real?
[12:18] <ioria> rizwanBD, so suspend and wifi issues ... are you fully updated ? sudo apt update and sudo apt full-upgrade
[12:20] <root__> hello guys
 I tried that but not working
[12:20] <hazar> :)
[12:20] <ioria> rizwanBD,  if wifi out, you need a cable ...
[12:21] <hazar> do anyone know a good website to learn ubuntu commands
[12:21] <cfhowlett> !fcm | hazar
[12:21] <rizwanBD> ioria, I am using now with cable
[12:21] <cfhowlett> !manual | hazar
[12:22] <ioria> rizwanBD,  ok,  so apt full-upgrade gives you  0  ?
[12:22] <rizwanBD> ioria. yes
[12:22] <barq> cfhowlett: which mirror?
[12:23] <cfhowlett> barq, main ubuntu mirror might be interesting
[12:23] <ioria> rizwanBD,  ok,  can you paste sudo lshw -c Network
[12:23] <barq> a country specific one?
 rizwanchowdhury@rizwan-HP-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo lshw -c Network
[12:26] <rizwanBD>   *-network
[12:26] <rizwanBD>        description: Ethernet interface
[12:26] <rizwanBD>        product: RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller
[12:26] <rizwanBD>        vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
[12:26] <rizwanBD>        physical id: 0
[12:26] <cfhowlett> !paste | rizwanBD
[12:26] <ioria> rizwanBD, not here, paste.ubuntu.com or install pastebinit
[12:27] <barq> cfhowlett: Could you give an example?
[12:27] <rizwanBD>        physical id: 3
[12:27] <rizwanBD>        logical name: enp0s20u1
[12:27] <rizwanBD>        serial: f2:e8:1b:95:c5:d4
[12:27] <rizwanBD>        capabilities: ethernet physical
[12:27] <rizwanBD>        configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rndis_host driverversion=22-Aug-2005 firmware=RNDIS device ip=<IP_ADDRESS> link=yes multicast=yes
[12:27] <cfhowlett> rizwanBD, dude.  STOP!
[12:27] <sslove> hey y'all, anybody good at packaging here?
[12:28] <cfhowlett> !packaging | sslove
[12:28] <cfhowlett> barq, dealer's choice: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
 Follow this link, it;s same problem as you have but with dell. anyway it doesn't matter and this solution should work..
[12:29] <Zimmer> http://askubuntu.com/questions/763085/with-ubuntu-16-04-laptop-doesnt-suspend-when-lid-is-closed
 http://askubuntu.com/questions/763085/with-ubuntu-16-04-laptop-doesnt-suspend-when-lid-is-closed
[12:29] <rizwanBD> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23018058/
 Let us Know if problem fixed...
[12:29] <Zimmer> thx
[12:31] <ioria> rizwanBD, the driver is loaded ...  and you cannot connect or scan the network ?
[12:32] <sslove> douane is such a cool app, sort of like an app i used on mac os x years ago, but nothing like it in linuxland besides douane but it's not in the repos and there is no binary available. building it myself requires so much installation of dependencies, like hundreds of mb, and then my builds always fail. i wonder why this awesome app isn't in debian OR ubuntu repos
[12:32] <rizwanBD> ioria, there are no wifi networs showing in network panel
 didnt worked
[12:33] <ioria> rizwanBD, can you paste   ip  a
[12:35] <barq> cfhowlett: It doesn't work with a different mirror either.
[12:35] <rizwanBD> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23018489/
[12:35] <cfhowlett> barq, then it's a system problem. wait.   these typically self-correct is fairly short order
[12:35] <cesurasean> hey guys, http://pastebin.com/fFK9T9UX, how do i fix this?
[12:36] <barq> OK, odd it always fails on the day I do-release-upgrade.
[12:36] <ioria> rizwanBD, do you have two ethernet cards ?
[12:36] <cesurasean> libethereum:amd64 1.2.9-SNAPSHOT--20160628-6a05dd7~trusty-0ubuntu1, what is this exactly?
[12:37] <cfhowlett> cesurasean, apt-cache policy solc      will tell you
[12:37] <cfhowlett> and snapshot would seem to be a snappy type thing
[12:37] <rizwanBD> ioria, I dont know All the harwares are as same as I bought. I am now using internet via usb tethering with my phone
[12:38] <cesurasean> its an ethereum bug
[12:38] <popey> cfhowlett: not a snappy thing
[12:38] <root__> hello
[12:38] <root__> irssi
[12:38] <ioria> rizwanBD, ah, ok ...
[12:39] <cfhowlett> popey, ?  OK, officially over my head then.  sorry for misinformation cesurasean
[12:40] <popey> cfhowlett: it just means that version is a snapshot of what the code looked like in the upstream git/svn repo
[12:40] <XHFHX> Hi there. Can someone help me with a cron job? I really tried out a lot now but I still can't get it to work and I don't get the logging stuff from cron at all: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23018771/
[12:40] <ioria> rizwanBD, and, as far as you know, your eth0 is working ? have you tested it
[12:40] <popey> cesurasean: what's the problem?
[12:41] <XHFHX> the log file gets touched but its empty
[12:41] <cesurasean> cpp-ethereum is broken
[12:41] <cesurasean> solc wont install
[12:41] <popey> cesurasean: how are you trying to install it?
[12:41] <cesurasean> it broke on its own bro
[12:41] <cesurasean> i think geth was updated
[12:42] <cesurasean> its already installed
[12:42] <cesurasean> but json errors when trying to mine
[12:42] <popey> where did solc come from?
[12:42] <cesurasean> cpp-ethereum
[12:42] <rizwanBD> ioria, Yes I have tested it with broadband connection and it worked
[12:42] <cesurasean> my system is now a fuber miner because of upgrade to geth on pool most likely
[12:43] <ioria> rizwanBD, ok,  are you using static or dhcp configuration ?
[12:43] <cesurasean> and so cpp-ethereum stop working because of solc updates
[12:43] <rizwanBD> ioria, dont know
[12:43] <popey> maybe need to file a bug upstream cesurasean https://github.com/ethereum/cpp-ethereum/issues
[12:44] <cesurasean> sweet just filed the bug
[12:44] <cesurasean> thanks
[12:44] <popey> np
[12:44] <cesurasean> they should slap whoever broke it
[12:44] <ioria> rizwanBD, you haven't set up ip,netmask and gateway  etc. in Network Manager gui , i mean ?
[12:48] <Zimmer> rizwanBD run this command and paste output *( ls /etc/pm/sleep.d/ )
[12:49] <rizwanBD> 10_grub-common  10_unattended-upgrades-hibernate  novatel_3g_suspend
[12:49] <rizwanBD> Zimmer 10_grub-common  10_unattended-upgrades-hibernate  novatel_3g_suspend
[12:50] <Zimmer> now show me what's inside cat /etc/pm/sleep.d/10_unattended-upgrades-hibernate
[12:51] <rizwanBD> Zimmer, how to open??
[12:54] <denilson> hey
[12:55] <denilson> how goes
[12:55] <ravi__> Hi can any help me on the below? I am using 16.04 LTS on my lenevo laptop with radeon graphics card which is Automatically locks(screen loc) down. i dont know how to fix it.
[12:55] <ravi__> rally appreciate your help on this
[12:56] <ctjctj> Hello.  How do I change the VNC/RDP password from the command line?
[12:57] <bittin> updating Debian stuff atm :)
[12:57] <ioria> rizwanBD, try to  configure again your wifi (wlo1). you can use Automatic (dhcp) or manual (static) , right-click on Network icon and Edit Connection
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/23020094/
[13:00] <ravi__>  I am using 16.04 LTS on my lenevo laptop with radeon graphics card which is Automatically locks(screen loc) down for every 10 sec terminating all applications. i dont know how to fix it.
[13:00] <rizwanBD> ioria, it is configured as automatic
[13:01] <ioria> rizwanBD, ok, but it's not getting an ip ....  you can check running  iwconfig
[13:01] <ravi__>  I am using 16.04 LTS on my lenevo laptop with radeon graphics card which is Automatically locks(screen loc) down for every 10 sec terminating all applications. i dont know how to fix it.
[13:01] <cfhowlett> ravi patience
[13:02] <ioria> rizwanBD, try a manual config, if it fails to get an ip, it's a driver issue http://askubuntu.com/questions/792209/ralink-rt3290-wifi-card-not-working-on-ubuntu-16-04
[13:02] <ravi__> ok cfhowlett: :-)
[13:03] <cfhowlett> ravi__, about every 15 minutes you should refresh your query
[13:03] <Zimmer> ravi__> Check power options in system, first .System Settings > Power
[13:06] <ravi__> zimmer: i have checked it every this is normal. i Mean i have checked the box that allows to suspend only when my lid is closed. but strangely with our closing my lid automatically my screen locks down(terminating all active applications).even i have disabled automatic screen lock function too inspite of that still the issue is apprearing..
[13:08] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:08] <ctjctj> self answer: vino-password
[13:12] <rizwanBD> ioria, not working :(
 Typical scenario is "use a laptop docked with lid closed, only the external screen is active, suspend, take the laptop, open it somewhere"... which leads to "no screen active".
[13:17] <Zimmer> To debug this problem, check if gnome-settings-daemons is getting a signal that the display configuration has changed, by running xtrace against it, and look for a RRScreenChangeNotify event when resuming the machine. If that signal is being sent, then it indicates a possible bug in g-s-d. Otherwise, it suggests a bug in either X or (more likely) the kernel which is not causing the signal to be emitted to begin with.
[13:18] <loladiro> I’m looking for the debug symbols for `dash`. I tried to look for `dash-dbg` or `dash-dbgsym` package. Any pointers?
[13:19] <Zimmer> Bye community, <rizwanBD> hope you can solve this problem :( ..
[13:19] <rizwanBD> zimmer, how to solve the poblem
[13:20] <DarkPsydeLord> Zimmer? Hanz Zimmer? its an honor sir...
[13:21] <ravi__>  I am using 16.04 LTS on my lenevo laptop with radeon graphics card which is Automatically locks(screen loc) down for every 10 sec terminating all applications. i dont know how to fix it.
[13:21] <ravi__> In power settings i have checked the box that allows to suspend only when my lid is closed. but strangely with our closing my lid automatically my screen locks down(terminating all active applications).even i have disabled automatic screen lock function too inspite of that still the issue is apprearing..
[13:21] <ravi__> appreciate your help on this my genious friends
[13:22] <OerHeks> every 10 sec..
[13:47] <ilhami> hello.
[13:54] <leo-ren>   :)
[14:07] <maxagaz> hi
[14:07] <maxagaz> I've just install ubuntu on an usb stick with unetbootin but it doesn't boot on my desktop computer while usb is set as priority in the bios
[14:07] <maxagaz> can someone help me about this ?
[14:10] <kisb> go to boot options and boot from USB
[14:11] <kev_> I downloaded 16.04, burned to DVD and also saved on USB, it only shows up as ISO file ready to burn to disc, will not boot to install ubuntu, either from dvd or usb. Do I need to download another file ?
[14:11] <paschalis> stuck on purple screen, after I accidentally rebooted the machine from terminal, using reboot. boot-repair log gives me this: http://paste2.org/V491vjKO
[14:13] <kev_> guess I am stuck with windows .............
[14:14] <paschalis> any ideas? thank you!
[14:15] <cfhowlett> paschalis, did it ever work?
[14:15] <paschalis> yes , of course!
[14:16] <BluesKaj> you need toi make a boot image , unetbootin , diskcreator, dd are a few apps that will work , usually , kev_ in windows use rufus
[14:16] <paschalis> and when live-booting, I can even see the files of the hd, which means no hardware failure
[14:17] <cfhowlett> paschalis, recent upgrades?  especially kernel?
[14:17] <paschalis> that's they weird thing.. no actually.
[14:18] <paschalis> cfhowlett: but, I did a random reboot though.. for example instead of executing my script, reboot.sh, I executed reboot.
[14:18] <kev_> I suppose it would make too much sense to be able to just download a copy of ubuntu that loads and works .........
[14:19] <paschalis> then the machine rebooted, it took reaaaally long time at the logo screen (it is after the purple), and when it loaded I shut it down from the menu before booting.
[14:19] <paschalis> then, when I tried to boot, it stuck on the purple screen. I tried 2-3 times to "boot-repair"
[14:19] <mustmodify> Hello. I followed the instructions to build libdmtx and dmtx-utils. Now I'm getting "dmtxwrite: error while loading shared libraries: libdmtx.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[14:19] <cfhowlett> paschalis, that should not matter
[14:19] <mustmodify> can someone provide guidance about how I should troubleshoot?
[14:20] <BluesKaj> kev_, do you have adcrom drive and and a blanh dvd, that will work
[14:20] <cfhowlett> paschalis, not sure why you decided boot repair was  the issue , but stop that
[14:20] <paschalis> okay.
[14:21] <paschalis> btw thanks for helping me out!
[14:21] <cfhowlett> paschalis, wild guess but safe enough to test: try booting the nomodeset options
[14:21] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset
[14:21] <kev_> it's a toshiba satellite laptop, about 8 years old, has CD/DVD read/write
[14:21] <kev_> have blamk discs
[14:21] <paschalis> so replace on grub menu the gfx_something ?
[14:22] <BluesKaj> kev_, then burn the downloaded ubuntu iso file to the dvd
[14:22] <cfhowlett> paschalis, yes you would edit the grub launcher - carefully
[14:22] <kev_> I DID, it saved it on the DVD as ISO file, ready to burn to disc
[14:22] <paschalis> okay. I will. it takes some time to boot the dell precision T7600..
[14:23] <kev_> will not open/read the disc as anything else
[14:23] <kisb_> kev_, burn not copy to
[14:23] <kisb_> use tools for burning
[14:23] <kev_> I did
[14:23] <kev_> so windows media player screwed me up on the burning part
[14:24] <kisb_> smh
[14:24] <BluesKaj> kev_, you must have copied the iso file to the disk, it's not the same as burrning the image , burning it makes the disk bootable as a live media disk
[14:24] <paschalis> in the meantime, there really lot of files that I am working with. compiling android from sources, so lot of files, lot of outputs. could it be something like fragmentation? because the time that it booted (and I shut it down) it took really long time. it has passed the purple screen though, and went to the logo screen (the one with the dots)
[14:25] <cfhowlett> paschalis, you mentioned on older machine I think?  how much ram??
[14:25] <ExecSlim> paschalis: on the screen with the dots, hit escape. It'll show some log output
[14:25] <kisb_> i think windows has inbuilt burning capabilities if i remember correct
[14:25] <rektide_> hi. I upgraded to Firefox 48, and now 1/2 the page's fonts dont render, my tab bar doesn't have tab names or has unicode boxes, and the addressbar is all unicode boxes. What happened? What might I try to fix this?
[14:25] <paschalis> 32gb ram. lots of ram. cpu has 6 cores and 12 threads. and ubuntu was still very slow.
[14:26] <cfhowlett> paschalis, that's ... weird
[14:26] <kev_> yes, I used windows built in dvd burner feature
[14:26] <shantorn> hi, i have a laptop with 16.04 and would like ot know the corrent process to setup my optimus graphics hardware?
[14:26] <ExecSlim> !optimus
[14:27] <kisb_> kev_, just use brasero or something like that
[14:27] <BluesKaj> kev_, try imgburn, it's been around for a while and very relaible
[14:27] <kisb_> what do win people use
[14:27] <BluesKaj> kisb_, he's on windows
[14:27] <kisb_> nero maybe
[14:27] <paschalis> cfhowlett: I know! just out nomodeset before quite splash,and hit F10. it went immediately on purple screen.
[14:28] <shantorn> ExecSlim, thank you
[14:29] <shantorn> do i need to install any nvidia drivers to go aong  with that app
[14:29] <rektide_> my 'pt' fonts are rendering as all boxes, any suggestions?
[14:29] <kev_> great, went t download imageburn and AVG wants to shut it down due to a threat
[14:30] <Vorap> BluesKaj, kisb, imgburn Is something I would recommend
[14:30] <ananke> wonder if anybody has run into a similar issue, so far can't find anything indicating a known bug in how preseed works. when i pass 'netcfg/choose_interface=eno1' via the APPEND line to the kernel, suddenly the installer fails to detect local disks
[14:30] <paschalis> I promised to my self, if I get to boot into ubuntu again, I'll get a reliable ssd!! any ideas on what to do shantorn ?
[14:31] <paschalis> wrong tag. I meant cfhowlett .
[14:32] <cfhowlett> paschalis, too mysterious for me to do more than guess at - not helpful in your case.  direct your query to the channel at large.  best of luck.
[14:32] <BluesKaj> kev_, the default windows burner app should work ...where did you download the ubuntu iso from ?
[14:33] <paschalis> also the grub menu, has some aaditional EFI.* entries..
[14:35] <maxagaz> kisb, it doesn't work with my biostar motherboard
[14:36] <mustmodify> Hello. I followed the instructions to build libdmtx and dmtx-utils. Now I'm getting "dmtxwrite: error while loading shared libraries: libdmtx.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[14:36] <sk___> Hi guys, i have got a little problem with an expression, i have to ban with iptables the IP in access.log http://paste.debian.net/788285/now im using this hex failregex = ^<HOST>.* but is not doing his job, anyone can help?
[14:37] <rektide_> how do i find out what package a font is in? i'm trying to find the pt serif font
[14:38] <shantorn> ExecSlim, do i need to install pure nvidia drivers as well with that nvidia-prime package?
[14:42] <paschalis> after rebooting from terminal, ubuntu 16.04 stuck on purple screen. any ideas guys? thank you!
[14:46] <l9> paschalis: where in the boot ? and does safemode work ?
[14:47] <paschalis> at the blank purple screen.
[14:47] <l9> your bios is fried, need too update it
[14:47] <paschalis> l9: safemode? the grub menu?
[14:47] <l9> yes
[14:48] <paschalis> yes I can get to that menu!
[14:48] <paschalis> but then what?
[14:48] <l9> can you boot into it and get a shell?
[14:49] <rektide_> help help help. my 'pt' fonts are not rendering except as boxes. pt mono, pt sans. and it appears a number of programs rely on these fonts.
[14:49] <paschalis> which option from the menu should I choose?
[14:49] <l9> with networking in case your x server is out of bounds
[14:49] <paschalis> recovery mode gives me a shell, but itss quite limited.
[14:49] <mustmodify> So does that mean that it can't find libdmtx.so.0? Or that libdmtx.so.0 can't find something else?
[14:50] <mustmodify> "dmtxwrite: error while loading shared libraries: libdmtx.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[14:51] <OerHeks> !find libdmtx
[14:51] <paschalis> i am trying again w/ nomodeset. it's stuck (or either doing stuff on the background?!) on "loading initial ramdisk"
[14:52] <l9> paschalis: what where you trying too do before you rebooted?
[14:53] <mustmodify> OerHeks: Hunh, thanks.
[14:53] <paschalis> so I accidentally rebooted while I was on the terminal. there were stuff going on, compilations on unrelated to the OS files, IDE's open, browser open, etc..
[14:54] <paschalis> so it wasn't a planned reboot. I just typed reboot in the terminal (instead of reboot.sh, which was my script)
[14:54] <paschalis> I also think that I changed 1-2 days ago some settings on the nvidia GUI app (and haven't rebooted yet)
[14:56] <l9> that change too the kernel is why you cant reboot
[14:56] <paschalis> l9: the ramdisk?
[14:57] <OerHeks> paschalis, hold shift@boot, go into recovery (alt F1 make RW), and login, perform: Sudo dpkg --configure -a ### run apt-get install -f, all should be fine now
[14:58] <OerHeks> but your work is gone, unless you save a copy automatic
[14:58] <paschalis> regarding the nvidia settings I've using the gui app the performance from "full quality" to "quality".. and some other stuff like that..
[14:59] <paschalis> OerHeks: my work? not all my files, just what I was doing back then?
[14:59] <OerHeks> work as in what you have opened at that time
[14:59] <paschalis> okay
[15:00] <paschalis> OerHeks: I'll report in a while
[15:01] <paschalis> while booting recovery, I ve noticed "duplicate or bad block in use!"
[15:03] <paschalis> OerHeks: but how do I login while in recovery?
[15:03] <OerHeks> you will see
[15:03] <OerHeks> bad block, ouch..
[15:04] <OerHeks> then you want to fsck that partition
[15:04] <OerHeks> !fsck
[15:04] <paschalis> whens but I don't have full access to terminal to perform this.
[15:04] <paschalis> yes, I did not shutdown cleanly.
[15:05] <MacroMan> jpegoptim doesn't do recursion which is annoying. Is there a bash script that will run a command recursively for me?
[15:05] <EriC^^> MacroMan: what command?
[15:06] <MacroMan> EriC^^, jpegoptim
[15:06] <EriC^^> MacroMan: i mean the whole command
[15:07] <MacroMan> EriC^^, jpegoptim *
[15:07] <ananke> MacroMan: find -type f -exec jpegoptim '{}' \;
[15:08] <ananke> MacroMan: find /dir -type f -exec jpegoptim '{}' \;
[15:08] <MacroMan> ananke, Thanks. Will give that a try
[15:08] <EriC^^> MacroMan: what ananke said
[15:08] <ananke> wtf. i finally figured out what triggers this 'bug'. if i pass the kernel netcfg/choose_interface=eno1, then the installer fails to find storage. yet netcfg/choose_interface=auto works
[15:08] <paschalis> can I fsck using live usb?
[15:09] <EriC^^> paschalis: yeah
[15:09] <EriC^^> as long as it isn't mounted you're good
[15:10] <paschalis> also in grub I got "error reading sector.. from .."
[15:10] <paschalis> I 'll try to live boot then
[15:12] <gregf_> hello, this question may not be ubuntu specific
[15:13] <gregf_> but im trying to scp a file by bypassing an intermediate host
[15:13] <gregf_> ive managed to ssh , but scp does_not seem to work
[15:13] <gregf_> has anyone managed to get this sort of a thing working please? *using ssh-config*
[15:15] <paranoidabhi> I want to use kubuntu. say I buy a laptop which comes pre-installed with ubuntu. Should I just install kubuntu-desktop on it or remove ubuntu and install kubuntu
[15:15] <cfhowlett> paranoidabhi, you could do it like this: sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[15:15] <ikonia> paranoidabhi: just install kubuntu
[15:16] <ikonia> on supported hardware
[15:16] <ikonia> pre-installed is rarely a good build
[15:16] <paranoidabhi> ikonia, why do you say pre-installed is not a good build?
[15:16] <OerHeks> paranoidabhi, do a fresh install, so you won't be cluttered with gnome apps
[15:17] <MacroMan> Hmm. I'm now using this: find . -type f -path *.jp*g -exec jpegoptim '{}' \; but in some directories I get the error find: paths must precede expression: 1435_665_david.jpg and I don't know what it means
[15:17] <ericus> Hey guys. Any ideas on why videos played with VLC started to lag/be choppy for no reason? It used to work perfect
[15:17] <paranoidabhi> cfhowlett, will remove unity entirely?
[15:17] <ikonia> paranoidabhi: because it's normally a generic install with no real thought around it
[15:17] <paranoidabhi> Will I get kubuntu boot screen then cfhowlett ?
[15:17] <cfhowlett> paranoidabhi, unity and the entire ubuntu-desktop suite
[15:17] <paschalis> should I clone multiply-claimed blocks ?
[15:18] <cfhowlett> paranoidabhi, that command *should* set you up, but if not, configuring the plymouth boot set is quite easy
[15:18] <MacroMan> gregf_, I've tried that before, but never managed to get it working. Sorry I can be more help :(
[15:22] <paschalis> cfhowlett: l9 OerHeks Eric thanks for your help!
[15:22] <cfhowlett> best of paschalis
[15:22] <cfhowlett> *luck*
[15:22] <paschalis> it finally booted!
[15:22] <cfhowlett> what was the error?
[15:23] <paschalis> I rebooted while many things were going on, as I told you by accident.
[15:23] <paschalis> so I had to fsck the hard drive!
[15:23] <cfhowlett> ah!!!! yes, I will have to remember that.  congrats on solving it!
[15:24] <OerHeks> :-)
[15:24] <paschalis> I wouldn't have managed without #ubuntu , really!
[15:24] <OerHeks> have fun, paschalis
[15:24] <paranoidabhi> ikonia, when you say "just install kubuntu". Before booting into kubuntu bootable usb to install, should I remove ubuntu before?
[15:25] <paschalis> I became one year older since the last time I booted ubuntu!
[15:25] <paschalis> thanks ! :)
[15:26] <Rapture> via command line is it possible to open a new terminal window to a specific size?
[15:26] <ioria> gnome-terminal --geometry
[15:27] <gregf_> MacroMan: you mean scp a file? ive googled enough, but nothing seems to work :|
[15:28] <gregf_> MacroMan: i can ssh to the final host tho'
[15:28] <OerHeks> gregf_, what do you mean with "by bypassing an intermediate host" ??
[15:28] <ioria> Rapture, e.g.  gnome-terminal --geometry=20x20
[15:29] <gregf_> OerHeks: sure. i am on my dev box. i need to reach an ec2 instance, but i have to go through a bastion host(gateway/intermediate)
[15:29] <Rapture> ioria: thanks
[15:30] <ioria> Rapture, yrwlc
[15:30] <gregf_> OerHeks: using ssh that is. ive managed to ssh, but i need to also scp a file. and this is not working
[15:30] <setuid> If something has a BD on a package, 'foo', does that also mean that it has a RD on foo?
[15:31] <gregf_> OerHeks: ProxyCommand    ssh ec2-user@bastion nc %h %p 2> /dev/null #this works, but only for ssh
[15:31] <gregf_> OerHeks: ProxyCommand    ssh ec2-user@bastion -W %h:%p # this as well
[15:31] <setuid> Looking at d/control, one package declares a BD on 'foo', and it's own code does 'import foo' (python code), but if I remove 'foo', the main package breaks. It -should- have a dependency declared against 'foo', right?
[15:32] <setuid> Or does a BD incorporate foo.py into the core package?
[15:32] <gregf_> OerHeks: ProxyCommand    scp ec2-user@bastion nc %h %p /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/jms/workspace/target/all-to-swf-transformer-<IP_ADDRESS>-BETA.jar  %h:/home/ubuntu/ # this does_not
[15:32] <gregf_> OerHeks: do you get what i mean?
[15:32] <ericus> Any ideas why file transfering from a Windows Server would be SUPER SLOW?
[15:32] <gregf_> tunneling essentially
[15:32] <ericus> 20-30Kbps
[15:33] <setuid> ericus, routing? block size? samba config? locking?
[15:33] <setuid> QoS disabled for your IPv4 or IPv6 adapter on the Windows side?
[15:33] <setuid> It's ALWAYS on by default, so you'd have to have disabled it
[15:34] <ericus> setuid, mounted with Gigolo, regular shared folders from a win2k8 server
[15:34] <setuid> no idea what gigolo is
[15:34] <setuid> I use real protocols, smb, cifs, etc.
[15:34] <ericus> "Gigolo is a frontend to easily manage connections to remote filesystems using GIO/GVfs. It allows you to quickly connect/mount a remote filesystem and manage bookmarks of such."
[15:35] <setuid> Easy to diagnose: mount the drive directly with mount(1), using CIFS, and see if the throughput is what y ou expect
[15:35] <setuid> Right, so avoid that. Use the mount command.
[15:35] <ericus> I think I might have to fall back to cifs
[15:35] <setuid> If it's using fuse instead of CIFS, that might explain it
[15:36] <ericus> setuid, how would I mount a shared folder the best way?
[15:37] <setuid> mount -t smb <IP_ADDRESS>:/that/folder /some/local/path
[15:37] <setuid> man 1 mount
[15:39] <mustmodify> When I do this ( https://gist.github.com/mustmodify/143adbfe32dc8befcfa2 ) neither /etc/bash.bashrc or /etc/bashrc/* are run (afaik.) Can someone help me understand why?
[15:40] <nvidiapls> any idea why nvidia-settings is not fetching settings from /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[15:40] <setuid> mustmodify, because you haven't told bash that it's an interactive login shell
[15:41] <nvidiapls> has the location for xorg.conf changed in 16.04 ?
[15:41] <setuid> nvidiapls, nope
[15:41] <mustmodify> setuid: I see.
[15:41] <setuid> say /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:41] <setuid> ack
[15:41] <setuid> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:41] <mustmodify> setuid: I mean, not really. I actually really struggle with that.
[15:41] <mustmodify> So what will be run with non-interactive shells?
[15:41] <mustmodify> Like, bash, whatever, interactive, not-interactive?
[15:42] <ericus> setuid, mount: unknown filesystem type 'smb'
[15:42] <setuid> If you want it to parse ~/.bashrc, you need to make it a login shell
[15:42] <mustmodify> I ask because I've struggled with that issue in the past, also.
[15:42] <setuid> ericus, -t cifs?
[15:42] <setuid> or put your mods in /etc/profile
[15:42] <nvidiapls> setuid: do you know if nvidia drivers override the settings in xorg.conf somehow? saving to that file from the nvidia-settings doesnt seem to do the trick, it's reset after reboot
[15:43] <mustmodify> setuid: My goal is simply to know where I can set env variables, run setup, that will be in effect for any shell, interactive or not, bash or not.
[15:43] <setuid> nvidiapls, yes, check ~/.nvidiarc
[15:43] <ericus> setuid, mount.cifs: bad UNC (<IP_ADDRESS>:media)
[15:43] <setuid> er, or ~/.nvidia-settings
[15:43] <nvidiapls> setuid: god damnit nvidia...
[15:43] <nvidiapls> thanks
[15:43] <setuid> ericus, is it exported as 'media' on the Windows side?
[15:43] <setuid> mustmodify, that's /etc/profile
[15:43] <mustmodify> ok, thanks.
[15:44] <ericus> yes setuid, it's a shared folder
[15:44] <setuid> mustmodify, but remember, that's almost ALWAYS a bad idea
[15:44] <ericus> yes setuid, it's a shared folder
[15:44] <setuid> ericus, when you run: smbclient -L <IP_ADDRESS>, what do you see?
[15:45] <setuid> You should see a list of all of the exported folders, including one called 'media'
[15:45] <setuid> assuming you have the permissions and naming correct
[15:45] <nvidiapls> setuid: looks like it's .nvidia-settings-rc even
[15:45] <nvidiapls> ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-6106/nvidia-settings-user-guide.txt
[15:45] <mustmodify> setuid: So /etc/profile isn't run either.
[15:45] <setuid> mustmodify, those are never "run", they're parsed
[15:45] <setuid> big difference
[15:45] <setuid> you SOURCE them into the environment, you don't run them
[15:45] <setuid> they're not shell scripts
[15:46] <mustmodify> I put `touch /tmp/etcprofile` at the top and tried `sudo start thing` and the file wasn't there.
[15:46] <mustmodify> fine
[15:46] <mustmodify> hm...
[15:46] <setuid> please don't use backticks, ever
[15:46] <mustmodify> can you help me understand the difference?
[15:46] <setuid> $(touch /tmp/etcprofile)
[15:47] <setuid> Add debug, sh -x /path/to/your/script
[15:47] <setuid> #bash might be more help here
[15:47] <ericus> setuid, it fails because it tries to login as my user, not the user on the win server
[15:47] <ericus> ericus@greentic:~$ smbclient -L <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:47] <ericus> WARNING: The "syslog" option is deprecated
[15:47] <ericus> Enter ericus's password:
[15:47] <ericus> session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[15:48] <setuid> ericus, so pass it the correct user
[15:49] <fes> do i need to compile my own 4.7 kernel to get schedutil governor and if so is there any parameter that has to be set before compiling?
[15:49] <setuid> fes, governor has been there for many kernel versions
[15:50] <OerHeks> !mainline
[15:50] <fes> OerHeks, the schedutil governor?
[15:50] <setuid> cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy0/scaling_available_governors
[15:51] <OerHeks> why do you need the 4.7 kernel??
[15:51] <OerHeks> 'because it is new' is not valid
[15:52] <fes> that's where the new governor schedutil is supposed to be added
[15:52] <fes> OerHeks, calm down
[15:54] <mustmodify> setuid: so if sh -x /path/to/script works but sudo start xyz does not, any thoughts about why?
[15:54] <setuid> mustmodify, the sh -x should be run from the caller (the parent) not within your script, it's used to debug what the caller's environment looks like, prior to running your intended script within it
[15:55] <mustmodify> right
[15:55] <Ravness> question, is it required to update the kernal right away?
[15:55] <Ravness> I think i'm on 4.4 i think?
[15:55] <mustmodify> so if I run sh -x /my/script, it should be in a non-interactive shell, right?
[15:55] <fes> anyone that can answer my schedutil question?
[15:57] <ioria> fes, which is ?
[15:57] <ericus> setuid, I can now see a list of shared folders with smbclient -U USER -L IP
[15:57] <setuid> Ok, and is 'media' one of them?
[15:57] <ericus> Yes
[15:57] <ericus> How would I be able to mount it?
[15:58] <setuid> you need to pass the same user/pass/etc. to the mount command
[15:58] <fes> ioria, do i have to compile my own kernel 4.7 to have schedutil governor available?
[15:58] <setuid> then I'd test a 'dd' style write to the device, to test throughptu
[15:58] <setuid> *throughput
[15:58] <ioria> fes, guess not... it'a a new feature of 4.7
[15:59] <fes> i do not see it when I cat available_scaling_governors
[16:00] <ioria> fes, you need  4.7.... but your ubuntu box will be .... unstable  ?
[16:00] <fes> i do have 4.7 mainline kernel offered by Ubuntu.
[16:01] <fes> i have also disabled intel_pstate so that the computer use cpufreq instead
[16:01] <Ravness> how do you update the kernal, sorry noob question
[16:01] <Ravness> i'm with 4.4 still
[16:01] <ioria> fes,  let me check the date ...
[16:01] <teward> Ravness: unless you have an obsessive need for the latest code, you may wish to stick to the kernel that comes with the system
[16:01] <teward> Ravness: because it will receive security updates as they're made available to the repos
[16:02] <Ravness> i see, I thought it will help with the laptop power management
[16:03] <fes> Ravness, what does use a lot of power on your computer?
[16:03] <fes> graphics?
[16:04] <nvidiapls> im unable to make my resolution and refresh rate stick after reboot with nvidia drivers - the ~/.nvidia-settings-rc file does not include resolution settings and xorg.conf is ignored
[16:04] <nvidiapls> any ideas?
[16:04] <ioria> fes,  "the current Ubuntu Linux Mainline PPA packages don't set the Kconfig option for building this new CPUFreq governor "
[16:04] <Ravness> Well i have a thinkpad t520, 7-cell. Heavy use (Netflix, Youtube, MPV) the power goes from 4-5 hrs to 2. And thats with TLP enabled
[16:05] <nvidiapls> looking at the xorg log i see "Setting mode "DVI-I-1: nvidia-auto-select @1920x1080" even though i've changed from auto to a specific resolution
[16:05] <nvidiapls> i have no idea where it gets it from
[16:06] <Ravness> Thats why i was hoping a kernal update might help with the power management
[16:10] <ioria> fes,  you may need another pkg, other then Mainline
[16:19] <b0k> Hello everyone! Quick question for you.. As of last night, whenever I boot up my laptop (running ubuntu) the OS doesn't immediately boot up anymore.. It just says "PXE-Rom Failed" or whatever, and then mentions something about a patent. I have to restart the machine, press escape on first boot up, then go into boot options, boot from EFI file -> grub -> and then ubuntu will load.. I have to do this each time.
[16:19] <b0k> Does anyone know how to fix or correct this, so that ubuntu automatically loads on boot?
[16:21] <compdoc> b0k, sounds like the computer is trying to boot from the network card. there might be settings in the bios to disable the boot option rom on the nic, and the boot order. It might be set to boot from the nic instead of the drive
[16:23] <keymaker69> Hola!!
[16:23] <keymaker69> que nadie escribe nada???
[16:29] <nvidiapls> $ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "Setting mode" [     7.993] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1920x1080_120+0+0" [    11.378] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "DVI-I-1: nvidia-auto-select @1920x1080 +0+0 {ViewPortIn=1920x1080, ViewPortOut=1920x1080+0+0}"
[16:29] <nvidiapls> why is it being set twice???
[16:35] <riqj> hello everyone, from 16.04. on (or earlier) it seems that I need to restart the machine for a newly added keyring to appear among my keyrings. is there another way to enable it to show up without restarting=
[16:35] <riqj> ?
[16:35] <riqj> earlier it was enough to restart the keyring program
[16:37] <riqj> maybe it takes shorter to restart :)
[17:01] <docmur> I have a ubuntu server which uses autossh to establish a connection to a remote server, for some reason the connection will get established for about 1 second and then drop, how I can diagnose exactly why the connection dropped? I think it's an edge route I don't have access to
[17:09] <anthony_> sup
[17:14] <MWM> hi I am working on a VM running 16.04 server and am having to wait a really long time for the "headers"
[17:15] <MWM> ping is fine so i know there is a connection.  just takes forever to get the headers.  horrendously long time
[17:15] <WrinkledCheese> Interesting:
[17:15] <WrinkledCheese> uname -v #32~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 22 15:32:26 UTC 2016
[17:15] <WrinkledCheese> lsb_release -a Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[17:15] <WrinkledCheese> Shouldn't they match?
[17:18] <voidah> WrinkledCheese, maybe you installed a new kernel but still booted on an older one?
[17:20] <Mouaad> hello, when i run vainfo i get the following error: libva error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_drv_video.so init failed
[17:20] <Mouaad> any ideas please ?
[17:21] <Mouaad> Intel HD Graphics 520 (integrated with Intel Core i7-6500U )
[17:21] <ankitraj> why doesn't ubuntu has refresh option like window?
[17:22] <akik> ankitraj: windows is a different operating system than ubuntu
[17:22] <ankitraj> akik, yeah that's I know
[17:22] <akik> ankitraj: you can use btrfs snapshots to "refresh" your installation to an earlier snapshot
[17:23] <ankitraj> akik, in ubuntu?
[17:23] <akik> ankitraj: yes
[17:24] <whlai> man bitchx
[17:24] <MWM> sorry for the repeat, but I dont see my question on the screen... is /ect/apt/sources.list still valid for 16.04 ?  Mine is empty
[17:25] <akik> MWM: yes it's valid
[17:25] <ankitraj> akik, I want to know why it is used ?
[17:25] <rawjarhead> If i have an pure ubuntu machine (no windows / dual ), how can i access the boot-from-usb stick ? I would like to completely reinstall the ubuntu OS
[17:26] <akik> ankitraj: when you have your installation in perfect shape, create a btrfs snapshot. then you can later go back to that snapshot if you mess up the installation
[17:26] <rawjarhead> I have the new iso file on a usb stick, and want to access it from the boot menu on an ubuntu machine
[17:26] <rawjarhead> Can this be done via the ubuntu GRUB menu
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> rawjarhead  yes, you can put a .iso in a folder, so you can 'live' boot from the grub... moment
[17:29] <MWM> well thats odd.  it wasnt showing a second ago, but I hit the command again and there is a sources.list...
[17:29] <ioria> rawjarhead, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[17:29] <rawjarhead> MonkeyDust: the desired ISO is in a USB stick, assume that it cannot be obtained from the machine itself
[17:30] <MWM> still trying to diagnose why my apt-get is "waiting for headers" all damn day *sigh*
[17:30] <rawjarhead> MonkeyDust: the computer has no terminal access, or anything. Just th grub menu
[17:32] <rawjarhead> the problem is that the original ubuntu OS is corrupt, and needs to be replaced with a fresh 14.04, reformatting the entire drive.
[17:32] <rawjarhead> I have a 14.04 iso on a usb stick
[17:32] <rawjarhead> I believe the original windows os has been removed entirely
[17:33] <rawjarhead> So i need some way of re-installing the ubuntu OS
[17:34] <rawjarhead> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuReinstallation
[17:35] <rawjarhead> How does one "Run the UbuntuInstaller"
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> rawjarhead  do you have a backup of your personal files?
[17:35] <rawjarhead> I don't need a backup
[17:35] <rawjarhead> Everything is to be removed
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> rawjarhead  then simply boot from the live usb
[17:36] <rawjarhead> MonkeyDust: I have the iso on my USB, yes. I plug it into the computer, then i try to restart the computer -- the grub menu seems to behidden, it just goes straight to the dashboard
[17:37] <rawjarhead> "boot from the live usb" ? what are the steps after turning the computer on? Do I need to hold shift or f12 or something?
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> rawjarhead  hit F2 when you see 'no signal', so you enter the boot sequense menu, select USB
[17:38] <rawjarhead> MonkeyDust: Okay. I believe the computer does not have windows at all, though -- this shouldn't be a problem?
[17:38] <rawjarhead> Like ,I thinkthe orignal Ubuntu install replaced windows, will f2 still work
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> rawjarhead  windows is irrelevant
[17:38] <rawjarhead> Okay
[17:38] <rawjarhead> Thanks, I'll try it
[17:39] <rawjarhead> It's strange though. I get maybe 20-50ms before it goes straight to th dashboard
[17:39] <akik> rawjarhead: boot menu can be some other key too such as f12
[17:39] <akik> rawjarhead: if you go into the bios of the machine, you can set the boot order there
[17:40] <rawjarhead> Does it depends on the Ubuntu dist?
[17:40] <akik> rawjarhead: no they are outside of the operating system
[17:40] <rawjarhead> I see, its lower level
[17:40] <rawjarhead> Access BIOS via f12 or f2. Grub menu is OS - level
[17:40] <rawjarhead> ?
[17:40] <akik> rawjarhead: yes grub is of ubuntu operating system
[17:41] <rawjarhead> i see
[17:41] <rawjarhead> So grub cannot help me with booting from usb
[17:41] <MWM> you should just be able to enter the boot menu and chooose your usb stick from there
[17:41] <rawjarhead> enter the boot menu is very vague. this is what f2/f12 does for me?
[17:41] <MWM> are you sure that your stick has been made bootable>  how did you make it?
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> rawjarhead  f12 for the boot sequence menu
[17:42] <rawjarhead> I literally just downloaded the iso and moved it to the stick That's what I did last time, when installing on my lenovo
[17:42] <rawjarhead> This is a new stick -- my old one has been lost to the void.
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> rawjarhead  what program did you use to make the live usb stick?
[17:42] <rawjarhead> This new stick is one of those shitty free ones you get at a conference
[17:43] <rawjarhead> I didn't yet. What do you mean?
[17:43] <theperfectpunk_> Hi, is it possible to reload the mouse driver in kernel with a different mouse driver in ubuntu
[17:43] <theperfectpunk_> ?
[17:43] <ioria> rawjarhead, you cannot just copy the iso on the usb ...
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> rawjarhead  first create a live usb stick, then from it (with f12 during startup)
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> then boot from it*
[17:44] <MWM> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[17:44] <akik> theperfectpunk_: it's possible to start using imps protocol instead of synaptics
[17:44] <theperfectpunk_> I am having this issue here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1610666, i suspect this is due to driver
[17:44] <MWM> @ rawjarhead :  you said you had a working system right?
[17:44] <rawjarhead> yes
[17:45] <theperfectpunk_> akik: i'm not using a synaptics touchpad
[17:45] <rawjarhead> MWM: actually, no. it's corrupt and unresponsive, thats why we're getting rid of it
[17:45] <MWM> then follow the link I gave a second ago and it will help you make a live usb.  this will get you on the road to a fresh install
[17:45] <rawjarhead> I only have windows 7 or mac osx
[17:45] <theperfectpunk_> akik: my mouse gets detected as E-Signal USB Gaming Mouse, I think if i use a generic mouse driver
[17:46] <akik> theperfectpunk_: ok sorry i don't know what would make it better
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> rawjarhead  in windows, use YUMMI or so, to create a live usb stick
[17:46] <theperfectpunk_> the problem will get solved
[17:46] <MWM> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows  for making a live stick in windows
[17:46] <rawjarhead> I see i remember now, I had to use this YUMI way back in college when I got 14.04 on my lenovo
[17:47] <rawjarhead> MWM: thanks, I'll do that..
[17:50] <akik> theperfectpunk_: the option to change from synaptics to imps is "psmouse.proto=imps" so it has something to do with the mouse
[17:50] <akik> theperfectpunk_: maybe give that a try? it's a kernel parameter
[17:51] <theperfectpunk_> akik: i'll give it a whirl
[17:56] <theperfectpunk_> doesn't work
[17:56] <theperfectpunk_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1610666
[17:59] <rawjarhead> MWM: booting from USB will allow me to install ubuntu permanently on the computer?
[17:59] <sigmaMX> hello
[17:59] <sigmaMX> somebody speak spanish?
[17:59] <gnac> Question about the redistribution clauses of Ubuntu. What constitues a modification to the distribution?
[17:59] <dax> ubottu: es | sigmaMX
[18:00] <MWM> rawjarhead:  yes
[18:00] <gnac> If I install Ubuntu onto a system, then install my own applications/software on top of it, then distribute that sytem to a commercial customer, is that a modification to the distribution.
[18:01] <MWM> you may also be able to fix your old install from the live environment, but that is over my head a bit.
[18:01] <dax> gnac: if you're referring to Canonical's IPrights policy, contact Canonical. There's a link at the bottom of the policy.
[18:01] <gnac> dax: ty
[18:01] <kvmmm> anyone here use Flux?
[18:02] <xMopxShell> how do I automatically install the relevant linux-headers when the kernel is upgrade?
[18:03] <MWM> 82%  I have been "waiting for headers" since 12:14 and am at 82% :D
[18:03] <xMopxShell> I've read that installing linux-headers-generic prior to upgrading the kernel should do it, but i'm not having any luck
[18:03] <OerHeks> kvmmm, redshift is available in ubuntu, flux is not.
[18:04] <DAN-NI> is chromium better than firefox?
[18:06] <dax> try them both, decide for yourself
[18:06] <sigmaMX> question about Compiz
[18:06] <sigmaMX> somebody to reply?
[18:06] <MWM> xMopxShell:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/75709/how-do-i-install-kernel-header-files says "linux-generic" is what you need not "linux-headers-generic"
[18:06] <OerHeks> sigmaMX, ask wait and see
[18:06] <rattlebattle79> sigmaMX: depends on the question, I guess
[18:06] <MWM> I was just looking at that page, and had just read it....
[18:07] <exoalexander> is this a support channel
[18:08] <OerHeks> exoalexander, yes, see the topic
[18:08] <exoalexander> is ther a built in programming tool
[18:09] <OerHeks> !ide
[18:09] <OerHeks> exoalexander, not build-in, but easy to install
[18:09] <exoalexander> is that for ubuntu 16.04.1
[18:10] <OerHeks> for any supported ubuntu..
[18:10] <exoalexander> i just need a developing tool like basic-246 in linux mint
[18:11] <OerHeks> exoalexander, but mint is not supported here.. those tools you find in softwarecenter
[18:11] <exoalexander> ok
[18:12] <exoalexander>  i came to Ubuntu by earasing my Pearl OS installation usb
[18:13] <MWM> whoohoo! apt-get has moved forward 1% in the last 10min making 83%.  any day now ! :)
[18:13] <exoalexander> also is there Ubuntu TLS
[18:13] <OerHeks> exoalexander, why do you ask, as you like mint?
[18:15] <exoalexander> i was saying a program app that i was asking if i can get the same coding tool that is supported with mint
[18:15] <exoalexander> and yes i do like miint but i'm not running it
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> exoalexander  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[18:16] <ritas> hi itunes 10 doesn work can anybody help?
[18:16] <exoalexander> is that terminal command
[18:16] <MonkeyDust> exoalexander  yes
[18:17] <OerHeks> ritas, nobody can, see the wineHQ database
[18:17] <OerHeks> !wine
[18:17] <exoalexander> Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[18:18] <ritas> what can i do
[18:18] <lucidguy> Can anyone recommend a nice plain/basic window manager/login app.  lightdm and sddm are a little much
[18:19] <OerHeks> ritas, use an other tool, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone i don't know which one, i don't own such prop hardware.
[18:20] <ritas> thanks a lot
[18:21] <OerHeks> lucidguy, "lightdm and sddm are a little much" ?? they are pretty slick
[18:22] <lucidguy> OerHeks: I hate how most sddm themes show an icon for every account, I want a simple login and password field
[18:27] <OerHeks> lucidguy, lightdm is easy to tweak, hiding users and such, i don't know about sddm
[18:27] <OerHeks> maybe the #kubuntu channel?
[18:29] <anonymous_> hi
[18:29] <kenneth_> hello
[18:29] <anonymous_> guys sameone help me
[18:29] <ubuntu019> How do I upgrade to Ubuntu 16.04.01 from Ubuntu 16.04
[18:30] <xMopxShell> MWM: thanks
[18:30] <_adb> lucidguy: i use lightdm with a config that includes "greeter-hide-users=true"
[18:30] <MWM> was I right?!  Im amazing then !  Whoo hoo!
[18:30] <OerHeks> ubuntu019, just update, i guess?
[18:31] <ubuntu019> I have done it, but it still shows 16.04
[18:31] <_adb> !ask | anonymous_
[18:31] <lc_> need help installed ubuntu 16.04.1  but  it will not let me install the broadcom wifi drivers why
[18:31] <ubuntu019> lsb_release -a
[18:33] <MWM> if I skip apt configuration during install will my sources.list still be built correctly?
[18:34] <tgm4883> ubuntu019: what commands did you run to update?
[18:34] <ubuntu019> apt update && apt dist-upgrade
[18:34] <OerHeks> MWM, go try it? never heard of such silly question
[18:35] <tgm4883> ubuntu019: did you run those with sudo?
[18:35] <ubuntu019> Yes
[18:35] <tgm4883> ubuntu019: run them again and pastebin the output. That should be all that is necessary
[18:36] <ubuntu019> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[18:36] <tgm4883> ubuntu019: that's not the full output, and that's not pastebin
[18:38] <MWM> @OerHeks apt was taking a long time (read: hours) waiting for headers inside the OS.  Now it is doing the same during fresh installation
[18:38] <ubuntu019> http://pastebin.com/VpyXK1D0
[18:38] <V7> What do thinking about http://douaneapp.com/ ?
[18:38] <MWM> my guess was to finish the installation and then fix apt from inside the IS
[18:38] <tgm4883> ubuntu019: Is this a raspberry pi?
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> V7  ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here
[18:39] <ubuntu019> No
[18:39] <EriC^^> MWM: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:39] <V7> MonkeyDust: ?
[18:39] <tgm4883> ubuntu019: what device is this then?
[18:39] <ubuntu019> It is a C1 from Scaleway
[18:39] <tgm4883> ubuntu019: then you need to open a ticket from them
[18:40] <tgm4883> ubuntu019: because they've screwed with your repos
[18:40] <ubuntu019> What do you mean?
[18:40] <MWM> EriC^^ :  I got sick of waiting for apt and decided to reinstall.  I am waiting for apt to configure in the installer right now, and it seems like it is doing the same thing
[18:40] <EriC^^> MWM: which installer is that?
[18:41] <V7> MonkeyDust: If you're so clever then why when Ubuntu upgrades from 14.04 to 16.04 then system start ups with 4 minutes ?!
[18:41] <V7> After upgrade *
[18:41] <MWM> EriC^^ :  Ubuntu Server 16.04
[18:41] <tgm4883> ubuntu019: I mean, you aren't using standard repositories. Heck, you're not even using what I'd call an official repository. So you need to open a ticket with Scaleway and ask them how to upgrade to 16.04.1
[18:41] <EriC^^> MWM: ok
[18:41] <ubuntu019> Okay
[18:42] <Moeh> Hey guys, so I use a VM with Ubuntu Server 16.04 with Parallels Desktop on an OSX El Capitan host. I shared a folder with the guest, however the file system access is extremely slow for the shared files. One of the folders is an Ember JS app, and when a file changes it takes 6s to rebuild. When I use the folder normally on the VM, it does it in 60ms. Is there anything I can improve in the Ubuntu VM to speed up the fs access to the shared folders?
[18:42] <tgm4883> ubuntu019: out of curiousity, what is the output of 'uname -a'
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> V7  use     systemd-analyze    to see what makes it slow ... also try    systtemd-analyze blame
[18:42] <ubuntu019> Linux example.com 4.5.4-std-1 #1 SMP Thu May 19 16:43:21 UTC 2016 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
[18:42] <V7> MonkeyDust: Startup finished in 9.771s (kernel) + 4min 35.757s (userspace) = 4min 45.528s
[18:43] <tgm4883> ubuntu019: yea that's kinda what I was expecting. Not even on an x86/64 based processor
[18:43] <tgm4883> ubuntu019: you definitely should ask scaleway about upgrading
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> V7  ok, now ... systemd-analyze blame
[18:43] <ubuntu019> Okay
[18:43]  * tgm4883 adds scaleway to the list of VPS he won't use
[18:44] <MWM> EriC^^ : file 7 of 66 after all this time, and I have a decent connection
[18:45] <markus_> /exit
[18:45] <V7> MonkeyDust: http://pastebin.com/GBzvGR5D
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> V7  is that a server?
[18:47] <V7> Personal, but ... for WEB development ... \o/
[18:47] <dangernoodle> Anyone there?
[18:48] <V7> dangernoodle: Where ::) ?
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> dangernoodle  type    /names
[18:48] <MWM> I think they are over there, but I am right here.....
[18:48] <dangernoodle> Good, wouldn't want you anywher else
[18:48] <gamester> Why does a window, when maximized by clicking the maximize button, MOVE to a DIFFERENT workspace in some OBSCURE cases where PART of the window is in a different workspace?!?
[18:48] <gamester> when*
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> V7  find out which services you don't use or need, then disable them
[18:49] <gamester> I'm just imagining a granny right about now. "Oh hmm I better maximize this window." *PHOOMPH!* The window has DISAPPEARED.
[18:49] <tgm4883> gamester: sounds like a bug
[18:49] <V7> MonkeyDust: Am I right ? All these services starts when I'm starting my comp. ?
[18:49] <tgm4883> gamester: but to be fair, grannies don't usually have multiple workspaces
[18:49] <V7> Then when all of them started - I see the Desktop
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> V7  yes ... also, type this     sudo service --status-all
[18:51] <V7> MonkeyDust: http://pastebin.com/z4DsE9fA
[18:51] <gamester> trouble is all desktop linux software is this - just trash after trash after trash - endless bullshit. -- Oh hey I need to navigate to .julia, hmm how do I do that? The folder is hidden.  "Oh hmm I need to go into /home/granny/.julia" But WAIT, I CANT! I need to open terminal or something obscure like that.
[18:53] <V7> MonkeyDust: sudo: sysv-rc-conf: command not found
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> gamester  great, but keep this channel free for support
[18:53] <Jakey3> what strength does the ssh key generated from "ssh-keygen -t rsa"
[18:53] <gamester> MonkeyDust: okay. How do I navigate into hidden folders using a GUI program like "Files"? (Nautilus)
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> gamester  ctrl h
[18:54] <gamester> MonkeyDust: how does granny do it without keyboard shortcuts? She only has 1 finger.
[18:54] <V7> Jakey3: SSH-2 RSA encryption should be used, with a 2048 bit key length
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> V7  you can    sudo apt install sysv-rc-conf
[18:55] <Jakey3> V7, what command in terminal to create this
[18:55] <V7> MonkeyDust: Thanks ;)
[18:55] <V7> MonkeyDust: What's your distro ?
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> V7  right now, 'the distro that should not be named'
[18:55] <gamester> MonkeyDust: SEE! 5 minutes of using Ubuntu and I've already discovered something that's going to cause HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of people pain. Because FUCK having designers with IQ 80+
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> gamester  stop
[18:56] <V7> MonkeyDust: Holy moly ...
[18:56] <V7> gamester: ?
[18:56] <gamester> V7: How does a granny navigate into a hidden folder?
[18:56] <gamester> And that's btw how I want to navigate
[18:56] <gamester> I dont want to remember another keyboard shortcut
[18:57] <gamester> or to go into a terminal
[18:57] <V7> gamester: How does a granny do this in Windows ?
[18:57] <gamester> right click, see hidden folders, done
[18:57] <gamester> right click, properties, see hidden folders, done
[18:57] <YankDownUnder> 04:56 on a Friday morning - have IQ's suddenly dropped overnight?
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> gamester  on top: View > Show hidden files
[18:58] <V7> gamester: Why granny should see hidden folder ?
[18:58] <MWM> can someone paste bin /etc/apt/sources.list from Ubuntu 16.04 please?  I need to compare mine
[18:58] <gamester> MonkeyDust: Thanks, I couldn't find it. It was those damn elusive window bars not attached to windows. You never see them.
[18:59] <gamester> Well, they work better on osx so you get used to using them there, not here imo
[18:59] <gamester> ok im out
[18:59] <gran> Hello, can somebody help me fix my grub file? I restarted my computer after an update (that didn't complete) and now it jumps straight to my windows partition.
[18:59] <V7> MWM: http://pastebin.com/gJqQPKAN
[19:00] <gamester> V7: because granny needs to program in julia, and there's a compilation error in a file inside .julia folder that needs to be looked at.
[19:00] <MWM> V7:  thanks
[19:00] <gran> I already tried BootRepair, but it didn't work in spite of saying that my boot file was now fixed.
[19:00] <V7> gamester: Why granny needs to program in julia ?!
[19:00] <V7> MWM: aw
[19:00] <win32> Hi any help =D
[19:01] <win32> bash: ulimit: open files: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted
[19:01] <tgm4883> gamester: stop trolling please
[19:01] <V7> Hey win32, DOS fckd up :D ?
[19:01] <win32> V7 ? sorry  hat.
[19:01] <win32> what
[19:01] <gamester> tgm4883: I'm not. Granny means me in a mood that does not want to learn another keyboard shortcut.
[19:02] <gamester> It would be an honor to be banned for rightfully complaining about shitty software that's going to bring hundreds of millions of people pain.
[19:02] <gamester> Nautilus needs to allow editing file paths
[19:02] <dangernoodle> gamester: hundreds of millions?
[19:02] <gamester> yes
[19:03] <tgm4883> gamester: first, this is the wrong channel for this as it's not support
[19:03] <gran> To make things a tad more complicated, my hdd is set up with lvm. I have the output of the BootRepair attempt on pastebin, if it's of interest..._
[19:03] <gran> ?
[19:03] <V7> gamester: I think ... Ubuntu designed really comfortable for your granny's use ... 'cause she doesn't need to "program in julia" ... she needs: surf web, skype, viber, movies, music, photos ...
[19:03] <vanishing> editing file path? o.o
[19:03] <V7> All of this ... Ubuntu and other else nice distro ... created nice
[19:04] <gamester> vanishing: I mean manually writing the file path to visit instead of clicking folders
[19:04] <V7> Editing file paths o.o ?
[19:04] <ioria> gamester, ctrl+l
[19:04] <vanishing> i think you can, by typing /
[19:04] <dangernoodle> gamester: try CTRL+L?
[19:05] <gamester> ioria: there it is, thanks. Too bad it's hard to discover these features.
[19:05] <V7> hahah
[19:05] <V7> ga
[19:05] <ioria> gamester,  another shortcut .... :þ
[19:05] <gamester> folder path*
[19:06] <gamester> ok my day is now going to be better, day saved. Bye.
[19:06] <ioria> gamester,  also Go -> Enter Location
[19:06] <gran> Not sure if i have voice on this channel... anyone please confirm and I'll wait for help...?
[19:06] <V7> gamester: F1'll help you
[19:06] <V7> gran: confirmed
[19:07] <gran> V7: Cheers
[19:07] <V7> o/
[19:08] <gebruiker> I installed ubuntu on my computer but unity runs very slow
[19:08] <gebruiker> windows 10 seems to be running ok in comparison
[19:08] <V7> gebruiker: Graphics or system ?
[19:08] <gebruiker> i want to stay with ubuntu can anyone suggest some tweaks?
[19:08] <V7> compiz maybe ..
[19:09] <gebruiker> V7, system wize it seems
[19:09] <gebruiker> somtimes it seems to lag when I openup the "start menu"
[19:09] <gran> Anyone here knowledeable about booty(ng)?
[19:09] <Ntemis> booty?
[19:10] <gran> heheh, booting
[19:10] <Ntemis> boot-y
[19:10] <gran> But I like that spelling better.
[19:10] <Ntemis> muchy
[19:10] <ioria> gebruiker, your hw specs ?
[19:10] <gran> So, can you help me out?
[19:10] <Ntemis> about what?
[19:11] <V7> MonkeyDust: Also .. really thank
[19:11] <gebruiker> ioria, just a moment
[19:11] <gran> My grub file is broken.
[19:11] <V7> thanks *
[19:11] <Ntemis> ah
[19:11] <OerHeks> gran, any more info ?
[19:11] <Ntemis> sudo grub-update
[19:11] <Ntemis> will fix it for you
[19:11] <gran> I restarted my ubuntu 14.04 box after an incomplete update and now it skips straight to windows.
[19:11] <MWM> gran:  you can use a live usb to get into your system and reinstall grub.  you will have to google how to reinstall it though as I dont remeber off the top of my head
[19:12] <Ntemis> hrm... update-grub
[19:12] <Ntemis> keep forgetting the order lol
[19:12] <OerHeks> gran, hold shift@ boot, go into recovery (alt F1 make RW), and login, perform: Sudo dpkg --configure -a ### run apt install -f, all should be fine now
[19:12] <gran> Thanks Ntemis and MWM, I'm already there. Tried Boot-Repair but no joy.
[19:12] <V7> gran: Yeah ... you need to reainstall it by live cd ... or by grub usb stick or smth. like that
[19:12] <^7heo> hey.
[19:12] <^7heo> in bash:
[19:12] <^7heo> $ time curl -i http://duckduckgo.com/
[19:12] <^7heo> ... works ...
[19:13] <^7heo> $ 2>&1 time curl -i http://duckduckgo.com/
[19:13] <^7heo> bash: time: command not found
[19:13] <Ntemis> gran
[19:13] <OerHeks> !bash
[19:13] <gran> I have the output on pastebin if you want to look at it.
[19:13] <^7heo> can anyone tell me why? =/
[19:13] <Ntemis> just find out your sdx you want grub onto
[19:13] <MWM> well there isnt anythig wrong with sources.list but apt is still broken.  I know there is a) nothing wrong with my connection b) sources.list is solid
[19:13] <^7heo> OerHeks: meaning "go ask on #bash"?
[19:13] <gebruiker> ioria, & V7 http://pastebin.com/hwf3vw2X
[19:13] <Ntemis> you did?
[19:13] <OerHeks> gran, again: hold shift@ boot, go into recovery (alt F1 make RW), and login, perform: Sudo dpkg --configure -a ### run apt install -f, all should be fine now
[19:14] <V7> gebruiker: ?
[19:14] <OerHeks> no 7heo, not for you
[19:14] <gran> paste.ubuntu.com/23036681
[19:14] <Ntemis> OerHeks: isnt his grub broken?
[19:14] <gran> ok, OerHeks , V7, I'll try that
[19:14] <OerHeks> Ntemis, how do we tell, if he didn't try to get there
[19:14] <ioria> gebruiker, dual booting ?
[19:15] <gebruiker> V7, so what do you think about my system specs and my question
[19:15] <gebruiker> ioria, no I had it running instead of windows, I just ire-instaleld it.  I am planning to buy another hd to install ubuntu on so I can switch more easily
[19:15] <V7> gran: 3 disks huh >
[19:15] <gebruiker> iooner,  but first I need to know if it is worth it with my current system
[19:16] <V7> gebruiker: All should work fine ...
[19:16] <ioria> gebruiker, you have 3 giga ram and a dual core cpu ... it's ok
[19:16] <vaindil> I'm trying to create symlink for a file, but ln -sT is creating a directory in the destination instead of linking the file. What am I missing?
[19:17] <ioria> gebruiker,  but i don't get where you get that list from
[19:17] <gran> Yes, dual booting.
[19:17] <gran> Things are further complicated by LVM.
[19:17] <gran> oh, haha
[19:17] <gran> sorry, answered someone else's question
[19:17] <gran> V7, single physical disk. A number of partitions. Two OS.
[19:17] <Tom____> The "Scaleway guy" here, I fixed it -- I just needed to add deb http://mirror.scaleway.com/ubuntu-ports xenial main universe
[19:17] <V7> ioria: system-info
[19:17] <MWM> Tom:  have you tried switching the destination and the source?  I usually get them transposed myself
[19:17] <ioria> V7 oh, ok
[19:18] <gebruiker> ioria, a program I just installed to list my system specs
[19:18] <V7> in cmd
[19:18] <gebruiker> ioria, it is called system spec
[19:18] <Tom____> I mean deb http://mirror.scaleway.com/ubuntu-ports xenial-updates main universe
[19:18] <ioria> gebruiker,  ok... can you run  free -m
[19:20] <gebruiker> ioria, no I am currently running windows. My ubuntu installation was default  I only added chrome
[19:22] <ioria> gebruiker,  ok
[19:23] <OerHeks> gebruiker, that hd5xxx is supported by the open radeon driver, the rest of the system is no racemonster too. but should work.
[19:23] <OerHeks> just don't play 3 youtube videos at once
[19:24] <MWM> 2.5 hours of troubleshooting and I was using the wrong network adapter in the VM
[19:24] <MWM> because Im smart like that :D
[19:25] <gebruiker> OerHeks, yes but the system loads fast, i was hoping that when I installed ubuntu my system would be more responsive but now it feels slower than windows 10
[19:26] <ioria> gebruiker,  you should boot in your ubuntu, then
[19:27] <OerHeks> gebruiker, install unity-tweak-tool, and fiddle around with settings
[19:27] <ioria> gebruiker,  so we can check ram, logs, etc., etc ..
[19:27] <OerHeks> that would be wise, asking questions while you could have booted in ubuntu..
[19:29] <gebruiker> ok will be back soon ( not today though) thanks
[19:29] <ioria> gebruiker,  you're welcome
[19:29] <gebruiker> ah yeah one more question which browser preforms better in your experience chromium or chrome'?
[19:29] <ioria> firefox
[19:29] <ioria> :)
[19:32] <gebruiker> ioria, and if i decide to buy a new compuiter in the future what video card brand is best supporeted by untuntu ? I was thinking about nvidia, thoughts?
[19:32] <ioria> gebruiker,  on linux, anyone , probably, will suggest you Intel ...
[19:32] <gebruiker> ok thanks
[19:33] <gebruiker> bye
[19:33] <ioria> gebruiker,  bye
[19:33] <idjyut> So I have ssh access to a remote machine. I tried to change the network interface settings to give it a static IP. I must have gotten something wrong, as it's not coming back online. Anything I can do other than get physical access to the machine?
[19:33] <MichaelP> Anyone know anything about neon... about hour in there channel nobody answer. It's using 16.04 LTS....  trying to change the repo mirrirs for ubuntu... I installed muon... i go settings.. configure software sources.. password screen opos up... Saying command ' '' --attach 20971525 --dont-update'.
[19:34] <Sampson> Hello... Does anyone have the terminal code that works for Open JDK 7
[19:34] <Sampson> trying to get Blackboard to work it is a JAVA based program
[19:34] <Sampson> using 16.04
[19:35] <_adb> idjyut: depends... if the static ip config didn't stick and it's still using dhcp, it may be back up on the original ip. otherwise, you can try checking dhcp server logs (if you have them) to see what's new. if it's a small network, and ips are likely to be consecutive, you may be able to guess the new IP
[19:36] <idjyut> Hmm, yea I'll try that thanks
[19:37] <tgm4883> Sampson: the terminal code?
[19:38] <Sampson> tgm: for open JDK 7
[19:38] <Sampson> tgm: I wan to run a java program called blackboard using open JDK 7
[19:39] <tgm4883> !tab | Sampson
[19:40] <tgm4883> Sampson: so you need to install open jdk 7 then or just run it?
[19:40] <Sampson> run
[19:41] <tgm4883> Sampson: to run, you just type 'java'
[19:42] <Sampson> hrm kk
[19:42] <pavlos> Sampson, type java -version it should tell you if you have it and which version
[19:42] <tgm4883> Sampson: I'm assuming there are other options that may be needed for blackboard, but that would be in the blackboard documentation
[19:42] <Sampson> kk
[19:43] <ioria> Sampson, how's your spanish ? :-)
[19:43] <ioria> Sampson, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOc4tebfjIo
[19:51] <seanjohnson> why would they make a linux for niggers?
[19:53] <trett> wasap?
[19:53] <l9> the moon
[19:53] <OerHeks> whatsap? nope
[19:53] <trett> that's deep
[19:53] <OerHeks> use telegram
[19:53] <V7> Is there any script for showing ips per process ?
[19:54] <trett> telegram is for pussies, use morse
[19:54] <bekks> V7: "ips per process"?
[19:54] <_adb> V7: what do you mean? like netstat?
[19:54] <l9> sockstat
[19:55] <V7> bekks: Yeah ... network used per process ... even ips
[19:55] <trett> http://serverfault.com/questions/586774/getting-iops-of-the-processes-on-linux
[19:56] <_adb> V7: are you trying to determine, for example, on a machine that has multiple NICs, which process is listening on port 80 on a particular IP or are you looking more for usage statistics of your applications and network cards, like bandwidth consumption?
[19:56] <V7> _adb: 2
[19:57] <tgm4883> V7: 2?
[19:57] <_adb> V7: http://serverfault.com/questions/36586/how-can-i-monitor-network-i-o-usage-per-process-under-linux suggests nethogs
[19:58] <V7> tgm4883: 2 = second decision
[19:58] <V7> _adb: Thank you ! I'll check
[19:59] <tgm4883> V7: ah. Well, if someone (_adb) is going through all the effort of helping you the least you could do is respond with more than a single character
[20:00]  * l9 wanders into freeNAS
[20:01] <V7> tgm4883: Sorry
[20:03] <whlai_> I'm executting an install with:  ./install.sh
[20:04] <whlai_> how do I execute that so I see what's happening?
[20:04] <whlai_> live a verbose output
[20:04] <whlai_> or echo
[20:04] <l9> need it into a file or on your screen ?
[20:04] <whlai_> either
[20:04] <akik> whlai_: sh -x install.sh
[20:05] <l9> ./ should print too terminal
[20:05] <akik> whlai_: if it's a bash script, use bash -x install.sh
[20:05] <l9> shouldnt it?
[20:05] <Pici> That may be too much information though
[20:05] <whlai_> sh -x worked
[20:05] <akik> because for some funny reason sh is dash on ubuntu
[20:05] <whlai_> actually, I spoke too soon
[20:05] <whlai_> :D
[20:06] <whlai_> : not found
[20:06] <whlai_> + �
[20:06] <whlai_> metasploit-latest-linux-x64-installer.run: 4: metasploit-latest-linux-x64-installer.run: �: not found
[20:06] <whlai_> metasploit-latest-linux-x64-installer.run: 5: metasploit-latest-linux-x64-installer.run: Syntax error: ")" unexpected
[20:06] <l9> please dont paste in to chan
[20:06] <whlai_> sorry
[20:06] <l9> pastebinit
[20:06] <OerHeks> uhoh, your system is a zombie now
[20:08] <whlai_> l9: this is a binary file I'm executing
[20:08] <whlai_> will that affect my ability to log?
[20:08] <jatt> jeez
[20:08] <whlai_> basically, I'm getting all the way to the end of an install and then it hangs. trying to see what's heppening.
[20:09] <akik> whlai_: it doesn't output any error on the terminal?