[00:00] <bubbasaures> UTL, There is a dual boot app for a couple of nexus devices, that is what you need an app.
[00:01] <bubbasaures> it actually is a multiboot you can fill it up with images
[00:02] <UTL> Uh... Well... I kinda tried that... and it kinda didn't work. Every image I tried didn't work.
[00:03] <UTL> I don't use a Nexus.
[00:05] <UTL> bubbasaures: Some people have managed to boot Ubuntu Touch from an SD card without messing up the internal storage on their device. I was wondering how I could do that.
[00:06] <UTL> I own a Nook HD+, not a Nexus.
[00:06] <bubbasaures> just info
[00:07] <bubbasaures> the 2013 nook appears to run google apps, just thought maybe has made a multi boot for more android devices, we never know how far you have researched is all.
[00:08] <bubbasaures> someone has*
[00:09] <UTL> I have researched this extensively. I am adamant about getting Ubuntu Touch to work on my Nook HD+, but I've had so many problems in the past, I wanted to test it first before installing for good.
[00:10] <UTL> You see, there is an image for it (ovation), but it's very buggy.
[00:16] <UTL> bubbasaures: Like I said, I've tried the Ubuntu Dual-Boot app, but each image I chose didn't install. You see, I had change the build.prop file to fool the app into thinking it was dealing with a Nexus 10, but I don't think I knew what I was doing.
[00:17] <UTL> nhaines: Are you online, as well?
[00:19] <bubbasaures> hope you get it figured out, bummer the backup images don't just always reload.
[00:21] <UTL> Yeah, it is a bummer. Thanks, bubbasaures.
[00:23] <UTL> Here's some pictures of some of the problems I've been having (second post by "wesnoth"): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2406766&page=5 Any ideas would be very much appreciated.
[00:23] <UTL> I mean, the second post on the page.
[00:29] <UTL> Well, this looks promising: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2406766&page=16 I hope it really is an update. Problem is, it was posted a year and a month ago, while the one on Ubuntu's website has been posted since May.
[00:31] <UTL> The last posts on the XDA Developers site is from June. Nothing later than that. Nuts!
[01:32] <jcbjoe_> hello .. is ubuntu-touch ready for the masses yet or is it a no go ?
[01:49] <UTL> Here we go... Just changed the build.prop on my Nook HD+ so I could get the Ubuntu Dual Boot app. I'm fooling it into thinking it's a Nexus 10 (manta image).
[01:56] <UTL> Didn't work. It booted into Clockworkmod Recovery, instead.
[01:59] <UTL> nhaines?
[02:41] <nhaines> UTL: yes?
[03:26] <UTL> Hi! Did you get my message about build.prop?
[03:27] <UTL> nhaines: That was directed towards you.
[03:33] <UTL> Where does the data for the Ubuntu Dual-Boot app go?
[03:36] <nhaines> UTL: I did not!
[03:36] <UTL> Oh. Here, let me run it through again, then...
[03:37] <nhaines> But unless the partitions on Nexus 10 and Nook HD+ are the same, I expect it not to work.
[03:38] <UTL> Well, there must be a work-around. Should I repartition, then? If so, how do I do it?
[03:43] <nhaines> I don't think you can repartition much.  The partition layout is required by the chipset or the board.
[03:46] <UTL> Hmmm...
[04:06] <UTL> So far, no good. It reboots into recovery every time.
[04:07] <UTL> At least it doesn't erase Cyanogenmod, or completely freeze my tablet on the Nook logo.
[04:09] <UTL> The dualboot.sh command doesn't work at all. I had to download an APK from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2587723
[05:21] <UTL> Backing up, just in case. I'm going to try something drastic to my Nook HD+.
[10:43] <rhinolinux> hello all
[17:57] <jcbjoe_> hello .. i'm getting a nexus 4 this week and i want to install ubuntu-touch onto it .. the nexus 4 is a supported device and i was wondering can i use it as a daily driver
[18:03] <popey> you can
[18:07] <jcbjoe_> cool
[18:08] <jcbjoe_> popey: if you don't mind 1 last thing .. do i have to install ubuntu lets say in a virtualbox to install ubuntu-touch to the nexus 4 ?
[18:12] <popey> jcbjoe_: no, but it's easier if you have ubuntu on a machine
[18:12] <popey> otherwise it's a bit manual
[18:13] <jcbjoe_> cool popey i will install it in vmware or virtualbox
[18:13] <jcbjoe_> popey: i'm familiary with linux
[18:53] <jcbjoe_> will this channell come more to life when i need actual help when i get my nexus 4 when i need to install ubuntu-touch ?
[18:53] <jcbjoe_> i know i will run into some bumps and hiccups
[18:55] <popey> jcbjoe_: its way more busy during the working week
[18:57] <jcbjoe_> ok
[19:45] <towski> hey, what's the best phone for ubuntu touch
[19:46] <towski> best - highest spec
[19:48] <towski> ah I guess probably nexus 10
[19:49] <towski> oh the 10 is a tablet
[19:49] <towski> so nexus 7?
[19:54] <bubbasaures> towski, The effort is getting a phone company to deploy this, seems to be some interest, personally I will wait till than.
[19:55] <bubbasaures> It's a development still
[19:55] <towski> right
[19:56] <towski> it would be nice to have a phone that I could put debian/ubuntu on it
[19:56] <towski> I guess phones are hard to hack
[20:08] <towski> I feel like I have no option other than to get an iphone :(


[15:14] <nzoueidi> o/ elacheche how are you :D
[17:42] <elacheche> Good nzoueidi, u?
[21:21] <nzoueidi> Good as well elacheche :)


[00:43] <billybigrigger> hey all
[00:43] <billybigrigger> how does one make deluge appear?
[00:43] <billybigrigger> the process is running, i've tried opening a new torrent to make the window pop up, but i can't alt-tab it, and its not in my gnome-do dock
[00:44] <billybigrigger> im running xfce with no panels, just gnome-do dock
[02:29] <Whatever> Hello
[02:30] <Whatever> Anybody who is familar with the program "VideoCut"?
[03:02] <Didrik> Anybody who have had the same problem and fixed? I start VideoCut and load a file. I get this error "Floating point exception" and it crashes...
[04:00] <echosystm> hi guys
[04:00] <echosystm> i need help
[04:00] <echosystm> can someone pastebin the defauly policykit.conf for me ?
[04:01] <echosystm> its found at /etc/PolicyKit/PolicyKit.conf
[04:02] <echosystm> anyone? cmon, it will take 2 seconds
[04:03] <th0r> echosystm: hang on
[04:03] <echosystm> thanks
[04:04] <th0r> well...pastebinit didn't like that <smile>....hang on
[04:05] <th0r> ah heck...
[04:05] <th0r> !pastebin
[04:06] <th0r> can't get anywhere on port 80!
[04:06] <echosystm> :/
[04:06] <th0r> can't even raise google!
[05:16] <osiris> how do i make the panel transparent
[08:23] <moodog> Morning :)
[11:31] <gnomefreak> .win 20
[11:31] <R1cochet> im trying to take a screenshot of a GDM theme i made, but when u run gdmthemetester it opens the window fine and the theme comes up but once i click on the window it resizes to 1600x1200, larger than actual resolution
[11:48] <psycho_oreos> if pgrep can translate the name of the process into process ID what's the program that can do the versa of that? converting process ID back to the process? trying to find out using fuser -m /dev/dsp  to see which process names are using it but its showing process ID rather than process names
[12:43] <cesarpinto1980> Hello again guys
[12:44] <cesarpinto1980> do you know what is the best way to adjust my screen resolution?
[12:44] <cesarpinto1980> i only get 800x600
[12:44] <cesarpinto1980> i need much bigger than that
[12:49] <cesarpinto1980> maybe i can share screen with someone to help me sort this out?
[12:49] <cesarpinto1980> is really driving me nuts :-)
[12:52] <psycho_oreos> cesarpinto1980, did you try Applications > Settings > Display ?
[12:52] <cesarpinto1980> yes
[12:52] <cesarpinto1980> doesnt show me the resolution
[12:52] <psycho_oreos> and 800x600 was the highest it could go?
[12:52] <cesarpinto1980> yess
[12:52] <psycho_oreos> which video card you got?
[12:52] <cesarpinto1980> im not sure
[12:52] <cesarpinto1980> is a packard bell laptop
[12:53] <cesarpinto1980> easynote
[12:53] <psycho_oreos> pastebin your lspci -k output
[12:53] <psycho_oreos> !pastebin | cesarpinto1980
[12:53] <cesarpinto1980> ?
[12:53] <psycho_oreos> !terminal | cesarpinto1980
[12:54] <psycho_oreos> once you have opened that up type in "lspci -k" (without quotes) and hit enter.. copy and paste that into pastebin
[12:54] <cesarpinto1980> ok
[12:58] <cesarpinto1980> got it psycho_oreos
[12:58] <cesarpinto1980> http://paste.ubuntu.com/246018/
[12:58] <psycho_oreos> mmm sis video chip
[13:00] <psycho_oreos> sis video chipsets are problematic if anything
[13:00] <cesarpinto1980> thats just my luck
[13:00] <cesarpinto1980> :-(
[13:01] <psycho_oreos> how long you had the laptop for?
[13:01] <cesarpinto1980> couple of years?
[13:02] <cesarpinto1980> is not the greatest but is the only one i can afford :-)
[13:03] <psycho_oreos> you may have some luck with this: http://www.winischhofer.eu/linuxsisvga.shtml
[13:04] <psycho_oreos> no not only is it not the greatest but it'll throw all sorts of challenges at you
[13:04] <cesarpinto1980> gonna check that out
[13:05] <cesarpinto1980> thanks mate!
[13:05] <psycho_oreos> nw
[15:00] <cagey> Good day.  Is anyone on to assist with a prob w/a fresh xubuntu install?
[15:29] <cody-somerville> cagey, Just ask your problem :-)
[15:30] <cagey> sorry, bouncing between apps!
[15:32] <cagey> I have a fresh 904 xubuntu install on a 233MHz/256MB PC and when it boots, it loads X but I never get a desktop /wicons.  I get solid background and mouse pointer and nothing else.
[15:33] <cagey> Upon a receommendation, I deleted the home/users/.cache and then it boots to completion.  What's in the cache that's causing this to happen?
[15:42] <cagey> Also, I need help to add more options to allow a higher resolution for my monitor
[16:33] <shooree> hi. how is it that I get this error message (in dmesg) when trying to mount an .iso file: "[ 5757.503252] ISOFS: Unable to identify CD-ROM format."? It worked flawlessly before and I'm trying to mount it in a purposefully made dir
[16:34] <shooree> Gmount gives the following crap: "An error occured, wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,       missing codepage or helper program, or other error"
[16:34] <shooree> I repeat, it worked like a charm a day ago.
[16:38] <TheSheep> shooree: on the same file?
[16:38] <TheSheep> shooree: looks like the file is somehow broken
[16:39] <shooree> oh
[16:39] <shooree> you mean, it got damaged?
[16:39] <shooree> and yes, it's the same .iso
[16:39] <TheSheep> what happens if you run the 'file' command on it?
[16:39] <shooree> says "data"
[16:40] <TheSheep> not much information...
[16:40] <shooree> I supposed so...
[16:41] <shooree> it's a game dvd, which I tried to install and failed. so I removed it and wanted to try again, but I haven't touched he .iso itself, besides that one mounting when I installed it first
[16:41] <shooree> isn't there a way to mount the thing?
[16:46] <shooree> I''ll stay on the channel, so if anyone has any idea, please be so kind to throw it my way. I'm quite desperate since my notebook dvd drive flopped and I can't get another .iso copy in less than a few days. Thanks.
[16:50] <shooree> oh my god, I did it
[16:51] <shooree> with a simple 'sudo mount -o loop'! 'mount -t iso9660' gave me the errors above and for some reason this thing doesn't.
[16:52] <th0r> shooree: mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt/test
[16:52] <shooree> what does that do?
[16:53] <shooree> and should I 'umount' before doing that?
[16:53] <th0r> shooree: that should mount the iso....you have the mount command split in two. I just got here, so didn't see everything, but your last line above has two mount commands
[16:53] <shooree> and why would I do it anyway, since I got it to work
[16:53] <shooree> oh
[16:53] <shooree> well, you misread
[16:53] <shooree> sorry to confuse you
[16:54] <shooree> the first part is what worked, the second one gave me errors
[16:54] <th0r> ok...should keep quiet til I get the whole story <smile>
[16:54] <shooree> :)
[16:54] <shooree> good reflexes, though
[16:54] <th0r> got a whole directory of two line help files....notes I have picked up off irc and such
[16:55] <TheSheep> th0r: try zim :)
[16:55] <th0r> TheSheep: I have it...love it
[17:06] <cagey> I have a prob where the /home/user/.cache files are causing my fresh install to not strart-up completely.  After deleting them, I get full start-up.  Ideas?
[17:13] <knome> cagey, do you experience this after every reboot or was it just one-time?
[17:14] <cagey> seems to be every time that I do NOT delete the contents of that dir
[17:15] <knome> okay
[17:15] <knome> weird
[17:15] <cagey> stalls just before desktop fully loads.  I have background colour and mouse pointer but no control or anything else!
[17:15] <cagey> cant right click either
[17:16] <knome> cagey, so what do you exactly have in your .cache?
[17:16] <cagey> oh hey! Thanks for the delete cache tip from yesterday.  It has started me down the troubleshooting path
[17:16] <cagey> lemme check...
[17:17] <knome> cagey, no problem. :) i think you might try to narrow the problem down by deleting one subdir at a time and seeing if that helps
[17:17] <cagey> .cache dir contains "sessions" and "Thunar" dirs
[17:17] <knome> okay
[17:18] <knome> cagey, see applications -> settings -> sessions and startup
[17:19] <knome> cagey, there might be something in there that is stopping you from logging in, though i don't know what that could be
[17:19] <cagey> I get past the login screen already
[17:19] <knome> yay:)
[17:19] <cagey> (S&S open now)
[17:20] <knome> see the "application autostart" and "session" tabs
[17:20] <knome> i have little ideas of what it could be, but you might try to disable some things you don't essentially need at startup
[17:20] <knome> something like the update manager or hardware drivers
[17:22] <cagey> knome, disabling and restarting...
[17:22] <cagey> this may time a "minute"...
[17:23] <knome> hehe okay
[17:25] <cagey> I should actually dump *buntu cause it's still too much for this machine to run.  Ironically, I just wanted to get *any* OS on it to give it away.
[17:26] <th0r> cagey: have you looked at damnsmalllinux?
[17:26] <th0r> cagey: or puppy linux?
[17:26] <knome> cagey, it would be nice to know what caused the problem in the first place, though ;)
[17:26] <cagey> I have puppy but could get the CD to boot ast night from CDR
[17:27] <cagey> I am "in between projects" at the moment so I'm looking at this as a learning opportunity. :)
[17:27] <th0r> cagey: another you might consider is mepis...they pride themselves on working with oddball hw
[17:27] <cagey> I dont think this is odd, just o*l*d
[17:29] <cagey> (box has booted to blank screenso I'm rm cache again and rebooting...)
[17:33] <cagey> th0r, I tried AntiX MEPIS but it said my CPU wasnt supported
[17:33] <cagey> or something to that effect
[17:41] <cagey> knome, standby... still trying to boot :(
[17:45] <cagey> sucessful boot after rm cache.  now will shutdown and reboot to test disabled items...
[17:47] <FelineMonstrosit> Hi, could someone please tell me how to set different wallpapers for different workspaces?
[17:56] <cagey> knome, box booted fully after disabling items in "application autostart" dialogue so I may be close to solution.
[17:56] <cagey> going to reboot again to verify...
[18:13] <cagey> knome, the box has fully booted twicw in a row so I'll just need to take a coser look at those options in the "autostart" dialogue and either leave them off or continue to narrow down the culprit.
[18:43] <knome> cagey, also try *save session* when you log out
[18:55] <mav0r> hi folks. i would like to set up dual screen mode on my thinkpad x200 notebook.
[18:55] <mav0r> in the settings i just see one display but in the desktop settings it lists both displays... any idea how i can disable the mirroring =)?
[18:57] <TheSheep> !xinerama
[18:57] <mav0r> thanks alot TheSheep ;)
[19:08] <zachary> hello
[19:15] <knome> !hi | zachary
[19:16] <zachary> knome: how are you?
[19:16] <knome> i'm fine thanks. and you?
[19:16] <zachary> not too bad, I was curious what some differences between xubuntu and ubuntu minus one having GNOME as default and one with XFCE
[19:17] <knome> that's the major difference. other differences are different default set of applications, for example, and some different configurations.
[19:18] <knome> all the applications in xubuntu are chosen to be lightweight but still featurerich, not only the desktop environment
[19:18] <knome> of course, you can install any application in both the systems, because the repositories are shared.
[19:18] <zachary> ah, does ubuntu come with all the tools I would need to configure my system, such as networking and the like, or does it just use the GNOME wizard?
[19:18] <zachary> s
[19:19] <knome> both use network-manager as the interface for configuring networking, once your hardware is recognised.
[19:20] <knome> and basically either both should or should not recognise the hardware, there should not be a difference
[19:20] <zachary> they both use the same kernel I'm imagining
[19:20] <knome> you can install "xubuntu" in your ubuntu machine by installing the xubuntu-desktop package and selecting xfwm4 session from gdm
[19:20] <knome> yes, the same kernel.
[19:20] <knome> (as long as you have the same X.XX version, of course)
[19:21] <zachary> I'm interested in switching, because I don't have the time to administrate Slackware machines these days
[19:22] <knome> right. so do you run slackware with xfce?
[19:22] <zachary> yes
[19:22] <knome> okay. i suppose you should try xubuntu then.
[19:22] <knome> as you might have understood, there's not a lot difference
[19:23] <zachary> I was figuring the integration would be much better with Xubuntu though
[19:23] <knome> and if you need some tool that is in ubuntu, you can get it in xubuntu just by installing it.
[19:23] <knome> (or an app, likewise)
[19:25] <zachary> luckily I'm familiar with apt from Debian :D
[19:40] <TwoToneSpirit> Hello.  I just installed xfce, and upon loading its session, I am running waaaayyy slow - much slower than with gnome.  I like xfce both in theory and in appearance - am I doing something wrong?  (xorg is the top process, dominating my CPU)


[05:34] <ScottK> lucas_: I was looking at tokyocabinet-ruby.  It needs libtokyocabinet-dev (>= 1.4.37) and we don't have sufficient version.  Should I reject it (it's New for Ubuntu) or will you look into getting libtokyocabinet updated?
[09:09] <lucas_> ScottK: bah. please reject it
[09:11] <Laney> Can someone update the freeze exception in 309528 for <IP_ADDRESS>-1, please? I've tested that it works (with some packaging changes).
[09:59] <alkisg> I'm trying to create a debhelper 7 package by following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Python... did I understand correctly that I need to create a setup.py which essentially duplicates the info that I already have in debian/control and debian/install?
[10:00] <Laney> it expects your application to come with a setup.py file]
[10:01] <alkisg> I'm the author of the application, so... hm... I need to learn how to write a setup.py file. I'm googling for it, but it seems weird to me that I need to put the same info in two places...
[10:03] <alkisg> I mean, I can't automatically create a minimal setup.py from debian/*, right?
[10:04] <wgrant> If your upstream setup.py is correct, you should not need a debian/install.
[10:05] <alkisg> (I'm the upstream author) thanks, so I'll just move what I have in debian/install to setup.py.
[10:47] <Ciemon> Morning all, I've been doing some work on the package predict which is cuurently linked to the same package in Debian. Is there anything written down about who/when/how etc of linking upstream?
[10:48] <Ciemon> that should be not currently linked
[10:49] <Ciemon> I may be able to write that in English if it's not clear enough :)
[10:55] <joaopinto> is there a "regular" case in which /var/lib/dpkg/info/*md5sums are expected to be missing for an installed package ?
[10:58] <Laney> Ciemon: I don't know what you mean by linking upstream. Can you elaborate?
[11:02] <lifeless> joaopinto: yes, if they aren't included
[11:02] <joaopinto> lifeless, I am not aware of such an option when building a package, there is one ?
[11:04] <lifeless> joaopinto: of course, debs can be built many many ways
[11:04] <lifeless> see debbugs 155676
[11:04] <joaopinto> lifeless, aren't all official packages built with dpkg-buildpackage ?
[11:04] <Ciemon> Laney: sure.. we have Predict in Ubuntu, as do Debian. The patches I've been working on applying over the last week should really be passed to Debian too. I want to get the info right so that I can tell the patch author what he should do to get these patches into Debian
[11:04] <lifeless> joaopinto: yes, and ? :)
[11:05] <lifeless> joaopinto: dpkg-buildpackage doesn't do most of the building
[11:05] <joaopinto> hum, isn't dpkg-buildpackage automatically adding the md5sums ?
[11:05] <Laney> Ciemon: Have you spoken to the upstream author about including them in the next release?
[11:05] <joaopinto> or it's a debian/rules task ?
[11:06] <Laney> Ideally you file upstream bugs and also forward your patches to Debian including both bug links (LP + upstream) and the patches themselves
[11:06] <sistpoty> joaopinto: it's a debian/rules task, usually done with dh_md5sums
[11:06] <lifeless> joaopinto: man dh_md5sums
[11:06] <joaopinto> ah ok
[11:07] <joaopinto> that explains the missims md5sums :P
[11:47] <Ciemon> Laney: the author isn't answering mail, which is why I was suggesting pushing to Debian
[11:48] <Laney> Ciemon: That's fine, just give all the info you have in the Debian bugs
[11:49] <Ciemon> Sure, but at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/predict there seems to be some sort of link available, that's kinda what I was asking about.
[11:50] <Laney> I don't know what that does
[11:50] <Ciemon> :)
[11:51] <Ciemon> Thanks.. I think ;)
[11:51] <Laney> but I'm pretty sure it makes no difference to what you want to do here
[11:51] <Laney> ;)
[11:51] <Ciemon> Gonna talk about this a lot on MOnday when we record the show
[11:51]  * Laney trembles
[11:52] <Ciemon> :)
[11:52] <Laney> general advice about working with Debian is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debian/ForUbuntuDevelopers
[11:59] <RunePhilosof> Where does the source code for evolution-mapi come from? The homepage listed in the package description contain version 0.26.1 while the latest ubuntu package is 0.28.2
[11:59] <Laney> Ciemon: More seriously, if you're finding it difficult to get involved then these are problems which should get fixed, so don't just let them lie
[12:00] <Laney> RunePhilosof: ask whoever did the last update where they got it from
[12:00] <RunePhilosof> of course
[12:01] <Laney> or check the watch file, maybe that's more current
[12:01] <Laney> or... *cough* http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/evolution-mapi/0.28/
[12:01] <Ciemon> Laney: not finding it hard as such, there's lots of mentors around. Actually I'm off to see Daviey shortly for some guidance
[12:24] <sistpoty> iulian: mind taking a look at bug #559959 (I'm still not 100% sure if the hat build failure is not a bug in hmake, but given that hat has always been troublesome, I think it's not related)
[12:25] <sistpoty> (and hat's build system is ugly at best, as I'm crawling through it atm.)
[12:31] <sistpoty> Laney: huh, ghc6 did make it on armel in just one day, 10 hours :)
[12:32] <Laney> sistpoty: WHAT?!
[12:33] <sistpoty> Laney: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ghc6/6.12.1-12/+build/1526050
[12:33] <sistpoty> maybe one of the gcc fixes, or a different kernel of a different buildd helped it :)
[12:33] <Laney> I don't believe it!
[12:34]  * sistpoty neither
[12:34] <Laney> which buildd did it go to
[12:34]  * Laney looks
[12:34] <Laney> hm, not heard of that one
[12:35] <Laney> right, now we urgently need to get all of the builds done
[12:35] <Laney> sistpoty: can you grant the FFe of pandoc <IP_ADDRESS> too? I'll upload it into depwait
[12:35] <sistpoty> Laney: sure, give me sec
[12:35] <sistpoty> +a
[12:36] <Laney> there's already a bug open for the sync, I'll just repurporse that
[12:36] <Laney> -r
[12:36] <Laney> bug 309528
[12:39] <Laney> sistpoty: http://orangesquash.org.uk/~laney/haskell-installability/armel.png is our target
[12:39] <Laney> this should be solvable with give-backs
[12:39] <sistpoty> Laney: excellent :)
[12:41] <Hew> I've made a darkstat sync request at bug 549351, and have been asked for a lucid build log. How can I get this? Do I use a PPA?
[12:42] <Laney> Hew: pbuilder can save a log with the --logfile (iirc) option
[12:42] <Laney> or a PPA upload will do
[12:42] <Hew> thanks Laney I'll give the PPA upload a go
[12:50] <sistpoty> Laney: pandoc: go for it
[12:50] <Laney> sistpoty: thanks, uploading
[12:51] <Laney> It's a bit of a brutal upload to be honest - I just chopped out the new cdbs bits
[12:51] <Laney> but it works
[12:51] <sistpoty> heh
[13:03] <sistpoty> Laney: just gave back the top row on armel... that was lots of clicking :)
[13:03] <Laney> sistpoty: good work!
[13:03] <Laney> (but in future, there is a buildd script in ubuntu-dev-tools that will save you that)
[13:04]  * sistpoty likes to click that button *g*
[13:04]  * sebner agrees with sistpoty *g*
[13:06] <sistpoty> sebner: haskell-haskeline should need a rebuild, if I can follow the arrows on http://orangesquash.org.uk/~laney/haskell-installability/armel.png correctly... want to click?
[13:07] <Laney> some of the green ones are false positives too
[13:07] <Laney> so you should verify those manually
[13:07] <sebner> sistpoty: only armel?
[13:08] <Laney> yes
[13:08] <sistpoty> sebner: yep, since ghc6 only made it recently on armel
[13:08] <Laney> ia64 is broken so much
[13:08] <sistpoty> Laney: do you agree to remove ghc6 and haskell packages on ia64
[13:08] <sistpoty> ?
[13:08] <Laney> In fact I was thinking about getting those binaries removed
[13:08] <Laney> ha
[13:08] <persia> Does anyone have ia64 hardware these days?
[13:08] <jpds> persia: Yes.
[13:09] <persia> jpds: Are small desktops available, or just big iron?
[13:09] <sebner> sistpoty: done, that's fun :)
[13:09] <sistpoty> last thing I heard was that the ghc6 build failure on ia64 wasn't always reproducible on the debian porter boxes, which makes debugging not exactly easier
[13:09] <Laney> sistpoty: kaol could build it on the porter boxes, but it always fell over on the buildds
[13:09] <Laney> and the ia64 porters couldn't come up with anything
[13:10]  * sebner is afraid of armel.png though
[13:10] <Laney> don't be
[13:10] <sistpoty> it can't break more than not build
[13:10] <persia> Once gh6 works, it's just a matter of following the graph.
[13:10]  * sebner is AFRAID of that graph xD
[13:11] <Laney> for Karmic we had a similar situation with ppc
[13:11] <Laney> that installability was fixed by throwing all of Haskell/ppc against the wall multiple times until it all stuck :)
[13:12] <sebner> hahah
[13:12] <Laney> this approach has a little more finesse than that
[13:12] <Laney> although I'm sure I could modify the script which generates the graph to tell me which packages to give back next
[13:12] <persia> You could probably even modify the script to give back the next set that needs give-backs.
[13:13] <Laney> yes, that's what I meant
[13:13] <Laney> oh, to actually do the give backs. Indeed.
[13:14] <persia> Actually, if you find a way to make it generalisable over the full package set, I'd be happy to run it daily after my mirror sync completes (for all arches).
[13:14] <Laney> it doesn't test buildability
[13:14] <persia> Ah, good point.
[13:14]  * sistpoty doesn't like the idea that a script will get all the pleasure that I have pressing on this button :P
[13:15] <persia> Well then.  Clearly the script needs to have a mail gateway with a list of URLs getting sent to sistpoty then :)
[13:15] <sistpoty> heh :)
[13:16] <persia> But for the script: I'd actually like to have something that lets us build a tree once the base is fixes: fpc needs bootstrapping on armel/powerpc after which there's a heap of stuff that can be built.
[13:17] <Laney> That would be useful indeed. Generally with Haskell transitions we only need to care about installability, so I haven't bothered to do that here
[13:18] <Laney> and the script which powers those graphs isn't particularly general either, sadly
[13:19] <Laney> http://pastebin.com/YRUZCk3i
[13:20] <persia> Such is life.  There's only ~30 pascal packages, and most of them are properly DEPWAIT, so that's perhaps less painful.
[13:20] <persia> Oh, that is very specific :)
[13:21] <Laney> Certainly the tree-building / installability testing could be split out though
[13:23] <think> HI ALL
[13:24] <joaopinto> hi
[14:04] <sistpoty> nhandler: mind taking a look at bug #559959
[14:05] <nhandler> Sure
[14:05] <sistpoty> thanks
[14:06] <nhandler> sistpoty: So it FTBFS due to a hat problem right now?
[14:11] <sistpoty> nhandler: no, it FTBFS since to haskell-utils was removed
[14:12] <sistpoty> nhandler: however hat FTBFS with the new hmake (most probably with the old hmake as well, even if haskell-utils would still be available and working)
[14:14] <nhandler> sistpoty: Can you at least attach a diff for the merge?
[14:14] <sistpoty> nhandler: sure
[14:16] <sistpoty> nhandler: attached (diff based on debian package)
[14:19] <nhandler> sistpoty: Granted
[14:19] <sistpoty> nhandler: thanks!
[14:52] <ScottK> Laney:  libghc6-hsql-mysql-doc is a new bianry package in your upload.  It's empty.  Please fix it and upload again.  Also, when you build the source package for a merge, please use the -v option to include all the new debian/changelog entries in the .changes file.  (do that for your fixed upload too since I'm going to reject this one).
[14:56] <ScottK> lucas_: Thanks.  Rejecting.
[14:59] <ScottK> Laney: Actually, I'm accepting it so the architectures don't get skewed, but it still needs fixint.
[15:17] <evilshadeslayer> Tonio_: ping...
[15:18] <iulian> sistpoty: Hey.  Do you still want me to take a look at that bug?
[15:18] <sistpoty> iulian: no, Nathan already gave me an ack, and I've already uploaded it :)
[15:18] <iulian> Ah.  It has already been acked.
[15:19] <sistpoty> iulian: btw, are you subscribed to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:19] <iulian> Sorry for the delayed response.  I have just arrived home.
[15:19] <sistpoty> no problem
[15:19] <iulian> sistpoty: I don't think so.
[15:20] <sistpoty> iulian: oh, can you subscribe? (have started a discussion about FinalFreeze for universe, see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2010-April/000043.html, and had hope to reach everyone from the release team there *g+)
[15:21] <sistpoty> nhandler: are you subscribed to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>^^
[15:21] <sistpoty> ScottK: same question to you ^^?
[15:21] <ScottK> sistpoty: I'm not.
[15:21] <ScottK> I probably should.
[15:21] <ScottK> Give me a moment.
[15:21] <sistpoty> ah, so I guess it wasn't the most brilliant idea from me to think I can reach everyone from the release team via<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*g+
[15:22] <ScottK> sistpoty: No problem.  Done.  Just need for slangasek to accept my subscription.
[15:23] <ScottK> Now I know why he was talking about your mail.
[15:23] <ScottK> We had a brief discussion about it at the end of yesterday's release meeting.
[15:23] <iulian> sistpoty: OK, done.
[15:23] <sistpoty> ah, yes, have read that... sorry, once again couldn't make it
[15:24] <ScottK> No problem.
[15:24] <ScottK> In any case we agreed to your proposal.
[15:24] <ScottK> He was going to include it in a u-d-a post he was writing.
[15:24] <sistpoty> excellent!
[15:24] <sistpoty> cjwatson: are you subscribed to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:25] <ScottK> sistpoty: Why don't you just ask slangasek to see if all the release team members are subscribed rather than ask one by one?
[15:25] <sistpoty> ScottK: oh, does mailman allow that? if so, slangasek: ^^ :)
[15:26] <ScottK> Yes.  The list admin can do that.
[15:26] <sistpoty> cool
[15:29] <sistpoty> ScottK | iulian: I'd like to hear a second opinion on bug #523433
[15:32] <ScottK> sistpoty: Since it's wanted for a derivative, I'm inclined to say go ahead as long as they can find an archive admin (I don't have the time to commit to it).
[15:32] <sistpoty> ScottK: I guess I don't like the idea to add it for lucid and then drop it for lucid + 1 again, but I can't really say I'm decided on it (otherwise I hadn't asked *g*)
[15:34] <ScottK> sistpoty: I can see the sense of having both versions available for a transitional period.
[15:34] <ScottK> I'd have n'acked if they wanted to replace the old one.
[15:34] <ScottK> It's not ideal, but life rarely is.
[15:34]  * iulian agrees with ScottK.
[15:35] <sistpoty> ok, then let's ack it under the condition that an archive admin finds time
[15:35] <sistpoty> thanks for looking!
[15:39] <ScottK> Sounds good to me.
[15:41] <sistpoty> ScottK: yet another question: I'm inclined to ack munin (bug #538594), however as it's server related maybe you have some comments?
[15:41] <ScottK> Looking
[15:52] <ScottK> sistpoty: I'd approve it.  Wnat me too.
[15:52] <sistpoty> ScottK: yes, please
[15:54] <ScottK> Done.  Thanks for pointing it out.
[16:01] <sistpoty> porthose: can you follow up on bug #540583 please and do at least minimal testing? thanks!
[16:17] <ari-tczew> is MOTU Council dead? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Council/Meeting is not fresh
[16:17] <sistpoty> ari-tczew: yep
[16:17] <geser> yes, MC is out of business
[16:18] <nigelb> anyone on the D-M-B available for a chat?
[16:19] <geser> yes
[16:19] <nigelb> geser, I was wondering.. is it possible to have ~ubuntu-dev be a member of ~ubuntu-reviews?
[16:20] <asac> anyone running karmic?
[16:20] <asac> does firefox work for you will all the latest updates?
[16:20] <asac> ;)
[16:20] <nigelb> asac, yes
[16:20] <ari-tczew> I think that MOTU/Council/Meeting wiki page should be cleaned up. Just have information about MC is dead.
[16:20] <nigelb> I'm updating... gimme 10 minutes test out
[16:20] <asac> nigelb: do you use firefox?
[16:20] <asac> cool
[16:22] <asac> nigelb: not running the latest nss?
[16:23] <nigelb> asac, nss?
[16:23] <geser> nigelb: what would be the benefit if ~ubuntu-dev is a member of ~ubuntu-reviewers?
[16:24] <nigelb> geser, helps with patch review, since they'd be able to unsubscribe reviewers (i.e. no excuse for not going into it)
[16:24] <asac> nigelb: just upgrade everything ... and let me know if firefox still works after relogging into X etc.
[16:24] <ari-tczew> so who is responsible for MOTU meetings? where can I find meetings calendar - I'm interested to join MOTU
[16:24] <nigelb> ari-tczew, apply to developer membership board
[16:25] <nigelb> ari-tczew, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard
[16:25] <geser> ari-tczew: DMB handles MOTU applications, the next DMB meeting is Tue, April 13th 2010 15:00 UTC
[16:28] <ari-tczew> hm, so I'm poiting to next meeting after April 13th
[16:29] <geser> nigelb: I'm not sure this is a good idea (because of other reasons). As ~ubuntu-reviewers is subscribed to all bugs with patches, ~ubuntu-dev would get notifications for all those bugs (but I'm not sure about this)
[16:29] <nigelb> geser, notifications go into the patch review mailing list
[16:30] <geser> ari-tczew: that would be Tue, April 27th 2010, 15:00 UTC
[16:30] <geser> nigelb: members don't get any bug email if they aren't subscribeed to the ML?
[16:30] <nigelb> geser, I'm yet to get any
[16:31] <nigelb> geser, well, I did subscribe last week and just started getting mails
[16:32] <asac> nigelb: update finished ;)?
[16:32] <nigelb> asac, 8 minutes more to go
[16:32] <asac> oh
[16:32] <asac> big one ;)
[16:32] <nigelb> nah, slow connection
[16:34] <geser> nigelb: ok, I guess it's like with the sponsoring team where ubuntu-dev isn't a member too. If a dev is interested in sponsoring or patch review he should join the team, but I don't have a strong opinion. An explicit membership has the bonus that I can look up which dev is really interested in patch review (as I assume that only a few would join explicitly if they are a member implicitly).
[16:36] <nigelb> geser, ah, that is reasonable too :)  But I was thinking more in the likes of bug control
[16:41] <geser> I guess bug control is a little different as a dev should be able to update status and importance (it's part of their work).
[16:41] <nigelb> hm, It was just an idea :)
[16:41] <geser> although I'd like if more devs care about sponsoring and patch review (don't know how the situation is there).
[16:41] <nigelb> now I have to manually get the review leads into ~ubuntu-reviews
[16:42] <nigelb> the situation here is pretty bad... less than 10 active folks.
[16:42] <nigelb> asac, you want me to log out and log in back?
[16:43] <asac> nigelb: yeah. thats safe
[16:43] <asac> and then try to use firefox with ssl etc.
[16:44] <nigelb> i.e. https://www.somesite.com?
[16:46] <nigelb> brb... logging out
[16:48] <asac> launchpad
[16:48] <asac> ;)
[16:48] <asac> or something
[16:48] <geser> interesting, www.somesite.com has a DNS entry :)
[16:49] <asac> heh
[16:49] <nigelb> asac, just loggged into my netbanking account.  No issues yet
[16:49] <asac> ok
[16:49] <geser> nigelb: your money still there?
[16:49] <asac> let us know if you get ssl issues ;)
[16:49] <ari-tczew> does wiki.ubuntu.com have multilanguage support?
[16:49] <asac> thanks nigelb
[16:49] <nigelb> geser, Oh no! asac stole it! hehe :D
[16:49] <nigelb> asac, no problem :)
[16:51] <nigelb> geser, anyway continuing on what we were talking.  My idea was if some dev did want to help, it should be super easy.  (well, that was the dream anyway)
[16:54] <geser> nigelb: is it currently that hard for a dev to join?
[16:54] <nigelb> geser, apply and accept
[16:54] <geser> that doesn't sound hard
[16:55] <nigelb> but there is also prove that you do review and a +1 from existing member
[16:57] <geser> anyways as this involves joining a team to an other, an admin of ~ubuntu-reviewers IIRC has to initiate it. so you need to talk to them too.
[16:57] <nigelb> geser, I only wanted your take on it :)
[16:57] <nigelb> I was unsure if it was the way to go.  I'm still unsure.
[16:58] <geser> me too
[16:58] <nigelb> I talk to dholbach to hear his take on this.
[16:59] <nigelb> Anyway, I think I'll have to formally approach the dmb for this anyway
[17:00] <nigelb> dmb, I think you might want to change your nickname :D
[17:01] <ari-tczew> would be nice
[17:02] <nigelb> geser, thanks for your time :)
[17:15] <ari-tczew> is word "deprecated" good instead "dead" on wiki.ubuntu.com? context about MC end of life
[17:16] <RainCT> ari-tczew: what's the sentence?
[17:17] <ari-tczew> MOTU Council is dead and handled by [[#DeveloperMembershipBoard|Developer Membership Board]]. For meetings please read [[#https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/Agenda|DMB Agenda]].
[17:26] <sistpoty> ari-tczew: why not write "out of business"? (though I'm not a native speaker as well)
[17:27] <nigelb> or just say replaced by the DMB
[17:29] <ari-tczew> nigelb ^^ +1
[17:30]  * ScottK looks at http://blog.brettalton.com/2010/04/10/installing-openarena-in-ubuntu-and-applying-patches/ and suggests someone update our package.
[17:30] <ScottK> sistpoty is, I'm sure, happy to test before granting FFe.
[17:32] <sistpoty> ScottK: oh, yes... it'd need very severe testing though :P
[17:33] <ScottK> Yes, so  someone please take care of that ....
[17:34] <ari-tczew> what is Next Chair on Agenda?
[17:35] <nigelb> ari-tczew, next person to chair the meeting
[17:35] <ari-tczew> ok
[17:39] <ari-tczew> what is "TBD" on wiki?
[17:39] <nigelb> to be declared
[17:39] <sistpoty> ScottK: updating openarena is a pretty hairy business, due to debian bug 523323 ... I'll try to see if I can catch fuddl at work, and ask him for details
[17:39] <ScottK> sistpoty: Excellent.
[17:49] <ari-tczew> is MOTU going to full move as DMB?
[17:50] <nigelb> no no, only MOTU council is replaced.
[17:56] <ari-tczew> so current "MOTU mettings" should be called "DMB meetings" right?
[17:58] <bjsnider> will there be sun-java6 packages in lucid?
[18:00] <ScottK> ari-tczew: No.  MOTU will still be around, just no MC.
[18:00] <ScottK> bjsnider: In Canonical's partner repo, not formally in Ubuntu.
[18:01] <bjsnider> ScottK, it's not there now. eta?
[18:01] <ScottK> bjsnider: No idea.  I don't work for Canonical.  Partner generally gets populated at or after release.
[18:03] <ari-tczew> what a mess on wiki.ubuntu.com! so what's the different between MOTU meetings and DMB meetings? please show me where are informations about this difference on wiki?
[18:10] <ScottK> ari-tczew: MOTU meetings are a meeting of all the MOTU.  We haven't had one in a long time.  It has nothing to do with membership in stuff.
[18:12]  * hyperair thinks that ubuntu should undergo daemon-cleanup sometime
[18:12] <hyperair> i've got too many processes running >_>
[18:12] <nhandler> sistpoty: I should be subscribed. I'll double check
[18:12] <sistpoty> thanks nhandler
[18:14] <ScottK> sistpoty: I am subscribed now.
[18:14] <sistpoty> :)
[18:15] <ari-tczew> ScottK: with this approach wiki.ubuntu.com is going to /dev/null because will be useless
[18:15] <nhandler> sistpoty: Turns out I wasn't subscribed. I am now
[18:15] <sistpoty> :)
[18:16] <ScottK> ari-tczew: Wiki's need maintenance.  Someone needs to do it.
[18:16] <hyperair> does anyone know why erlang needs so much rubbish running?
[18:16] <hyperair> there's a beam.smp, an ssl_esock, some heart.smp, ....
[18:17] <hyperair> i wouldn't care so much if they're all lightweight, but added together they take over 30MB, and all that is *just* for desktopcouch.
[18:17] <hyperair> and this ridiculous couch thing takes an additional 10MB, not counting all the erlang processes started solely for it.
[18:18] <hyperair> and on top of that, the only thing that uses this useless couch is gwibber.
[18:18] <hyperair> i think i'll just stop using gwibber >_>
[18:20] <ari-tczew> ScottK: I'm going to invite more user for contribute to Ubuntu with new development cycle (maverick). I don't want give them confusing wiki pages. More professionaly please!
[18:20] <ScottK> ari-tczew: It's a wiki.  Go for it.
[18:23] <ari-tczew> ScottK: wiki.ubuntu.com is too messed, so I don't distinguish a lot of terms, concepts etc. Someone from administration and moderation should clean wiki - once and good.
[18:24] <ScottK> It's been done before and not so successfully.
[18:24] <ScottK> For MOTU stuff there is no "administration and moderation" it's just us.
[18:27] <ari-tczew> bordello, nobody for nothing is not responsible. wiki is siking
[18:36] <sistpoty> ScottK: FFe bug #503616 also looks server related ;)
[18:37] <sistpoty> (avoided looking at it yet, due to incompetence in this regard)
[18:39] <ScottK> sistpoty: Commented.
[18:43] <sistpoty> thanks
[19:09] <ScottK> sistpoty: I'll be AFK for several hours.  Ping and I'll read the scrollback when I return.
[19:09] <sistpoty> ScottK: sure, thanks for the notice
[19:10] <sistpoty> ScottK: and *do* get some sleep somewhen ;)
[19:10] <ScottK> sistpoty: Sleep is for the weak.
[19:10] <sistpoty> haha
[19:10] <sebner> ScottK: bash
[19:10] <sistpoty> <- weak
[19:10] <sebner> ScottK: I wanted to write exactly the same! (citat from you of course :D)
[19:10]  * sebner pets sistpoty
[19:10] <sistpoty> *g*
[19:10] <sebner> sistpoty: you are simply getting old :P
[19:11] <sistpoty> sebner: well, turned 31 very recently (actually yesterday)
[19:11] <crimsun> i used to be old. then i took some pills and now i'm ancient.
[19:11] <sebner> sistpoty: ujj, congratulations then :)
[19:11] <sistpoty> thanks sebner
[19:11] <sebner> crimsun: ¬_¬
[19:44] <lfaraone> I noticed that xulrunner was dropped in Lucid, but I couldn't find a bug explaining the rationale. If upon testing, it builds properly and runs on Lucid, would it be suitable to request it to be synced from Debian? (this is needed to get sugar-0.88 working)
[19:45] <sistpoty> ajmitch: around? Do I recall it correctly that you have good knowledge of the zope stack? (as I'm a little bit clueless about FFe bug #542634)
[19:47] <crimsun> lfaraone: eh? xulrunner-1.9.2 | <IP_ADDRESS>+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 |         lucid | source, amd64, i386
[20:01] <lfaraone> crimsun: aha. there's just no longer an unversioned "xulrunner", it seems. nor is there a python-xpcom (previously provided by "xulrunner")
[20:01] <lfaraone> *built by
[21:01] <sistpoty> DktrKranz: got a sec to look at FFe bug #551526, as I'm totally clueless about what's requested there, and what goes wrong
[21:02] <sebner> sistpoty: I'm not sure if he will be online today again
[21:02] <sistpoty> sebner: oh
[21:03] <sistpoty> well, there's always the option to leave a comment at the bug report in question :)
[21:03]  * sebner ^5 sistpoty :)
[21:03] <sistpoty> :)
[21:24] <sistpoty> menesis: around? can you give some further insights into bug #542634? thanks!
[21:42]  * abogani waves
[21:42] <abogani> I'm looking for sponsors: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlessioIgorBogani/linux-rtPPUApplication
[21:42] <abogani> Thanks
[21:43] <sistpoty> ScottK: one for you (main): bug #555235
[22:45] <ari-tczew> !seen av`
[23:45] <sistpoty> ScottK: re bug #545690... do you want the new version in? if so, don't hesitate to acknowledge it ;)
[23:46] <ari-tczew> is phpmyadmin a server package?
[23:47] <sistpoty> ari-tczew: I'd very much say so, yes
[23:48] <ari-tczew> exactly! security team has pointed phpmyadmin as desktop package. ridiculous!
[23:51] <sistpoty> ari-tczew: hm?
[23:51] <ari-tczew> sistpoty: phpmyadmin is ignored for dapper as desktop package. you can look at UCT
[23:52] <ari-tczew> dapper desktop is eol
[23:54] <sistpoty> ari-tczew: aha, it's in universe
[23:55] <sistpoty> ari-tczew: to my knowledge, packages in universe don't enjoy the extended support period that -server has
[23:55] <sistpoty> (but I might be wrong)
[23:56] <ari-tczew> sistpoty: for discussion you can join #ubuntu-hardened, as you are a member of motu-swat anyway
[23:57] <sistpoty> ari-tczew: I'm the laziest member of motu-swat (only being still a member since one late night I had the idea together with nafallo to found a security team for universe)
[23:58] <sistpoty> ari-tczew: just joined


[02:28] <Buckaboobob> anyone around to answer a DVB-S tuning question?
[03:32] <MythbuntuGuest63> Hi anyone been able to get a snapstream remote to work?
[05:14] <seared> howdy. I just installed 8.04 fresh, and the kernel metapackage, but I can't even get through make xconfig/menuconfig. Any idea where to look?
[05:22] <Jinxed-> I am interested in setting up a media server where I can stream my music and compressed videos. I would like to be able to access these from remote sites. I also want to be able to watch the movies and play music in different rooms in my house. Is there a way to do this with Ubuntu? I had heard some people mention MythTv and Jinzora, has anyone had any experience with either of these?
[05:47] <rhpot1991> Jinxed-: mythtv is made up of a backend and a frontend, multiple FE's can access a BE, and then there are things like mythweb that would let you stream some content over the interweb
[05:47] <rhpot1991> so with the right setup you could accomplish much of what you want with mythtv
[05:55] <juice> anyone know how to get an imon ultrabay to work on ubuntu 8.04?
[06:00] <MythbuntuGuest26> Hey, i'm looking for help trying to set up LIRC.... any ideas?
[06:11] <juice> so i just upgraded ubuntu from 7.10 to 8.04 and i want to put mythtv on it. i have an ADS HDTV tv tuner card too. (not installed). what should i do first?
[06:24] <Balachmar> Hi, can I take the database and recordings with me from a feisty fawn+ mythtv installation to a brand new mythbuntu install?
[11:37] <Vinconzo> hi
[11:38] <Vinconzo> hold on
[11:38] <Vinconzo> brb
[11:40] <vinconzo> and back again
[11:40] <vinconzo> ok
[11:40] <vinconzo> can mythbuntu auto-configure my monitors?
[11:41] <vinconzo> for example, if i install it on a normal VGA Monitor, can i afterwards still use it on a composite TV?
[11:41] <vinconzo> or a DVI tv?
[11:42] <hugolp> vinconzo:  yes
[11:42] <vinconzo> ok
[11:42] <vinconzo> becouse i had normal ubuntu on another pc, and it totally didnt work there
[11:42] <hugolp> mmm then you may have problems
[11:43] <vinconzo> it's got an nvidea geforce2 videocard, is that a problem?
[11:43] <hugolp> what video card you have?
[11:43] <hugolp> vinconzo:  it shouldnt
[11:43] <vinconzo> ok
[11:43] <vinconzo> thanks a lot
[11:43] <vinconzo> mythtv is easy to use , right?
[11:44] <hugolp> well, I have been using it for a year and a half. Before I had never used linux before and I set it up
[11:44] <vinconzo> according to the screenshotsthey really are
[11:44] <vinconzo> ok
[11:44] <hugolp> yes, mythtv is really easy to use
[11:44] <vinconzo> nice
[11:45] <hugolp> the only problem you can have is problems with linux drivers. But if you check in the internet before buying hardware and make sure the hardware you buy is suported, you wont have any problem
[11:45] <vinconzo> well, ill see how it goes, i think
[11:45] <vinconzo> it's pretty standard stuff
[11:45] <vinconzo> i got it for free from a guy @ church
[11:46] <vinconzo> so ill download mythbuntu then
[11:46] <hugolp> from church? the place where they explain the stories?
[11:46] <hugolp> thats the last place I would think I could get a computer from
[11:47] <vinconzo> aw well
[11:47] <vinconzo> im in a pretty neat church
[11:47] <hugolp> it seems so
[11:47] <vinconzo> they dont really forbid things, like the catholics like to do
[11:48] <hugolp> vinconzo:  I would say now linux is easier to use than windows if you dont find any drivers problems, and mythtv is one of the easier to use software for linux
[11:48] <hugolp> so you should be fine
[11:48] <vinconzo> they allow gays, condoms, drinking and even pot smoking (im dutch)
[11:49] <vinconzo> as long as i dont get an addiction, becouse then it would be a (? dont know the english word)
[11:49] <vinconzo> well like a fake god
[11:50] <vinconzo> becouse you need that addiction :)
[11:50] <hugolp> that sounds even fun
[11:50] <vinconzo> but im off to download
[11:50] <vinconzo> but the 10 commandements remain there though
[11:50] <vinconzo> but thats mostly laws everdybody pretty mucht uses
[11:51] <vinconzo> eg dont kill dont steal, etc.
[11:52] <hugolp> of course
[11:56] <vinconzo> ah its downloading
[11:57] <vinconzo> btw
[11:58] <vinconzo> is it also possible to stop mythtv at some point, and play MAME, or some other game?
[12:00] <vinconzo> w8 nm
[12:13] <hugolp> vinconzo:  I dont use mythgames, but if MAME is an outside program, mythtv is like any other linux program and alt+tab works
[12:14] <hugolp> I have mytht on the backgroun watching tv ritgh now while im talking with you
[12:23] <mandje> there's no wubi install for mythbuntu?
[12:34] <crazy_bus> should I follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Gutsy_Backend_Frontend_Desktop even though I'm using kubuntu hardy?
[12:36] <rockhound> hi everyone. I am struggling with spdif output on an alc888 onboard chip .. it works with max audio channels set to stereo ... but as soon as I would like to pass-through something or set max audio channels to 5.1 all goes quite ...
[12:36] <rockhound> any suggestions for this issue?
[12:51] <wild_oscar> hi there
[12:51] <wild_oscar> is there an irc channel for support with lirc?
[13:01] <crazy_bus> wild_oscar: there's lirc but there's only one person in it
[13:03] <wild_oscar> yes, so I've seen
[13:42] <cosmic_> hi @ all
[13:43] <cosmic_> I cant switch to LiveTV , log Error : http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/212887/
[13:44] <cosmic_> Could anyone give me a hint , how such an error can happen ? i think that i have to manipulate the sql DB , rigtht ?
[13:46] <bazzawill_eee> hmm not sure you might want to try repairing db in mythweb
[13:46] <bazzawill_eee> have you tried rebooting?
[13:48] <cosmic_> yes , i tried both
[13:48] <cosmic_> repair and reboot
[13:48] <cosmic_> i just wonder how he got this DATE of the past !?!?
[13:50] <bazzawill_eee> ah didn't notice that check date in a terminal
[13:52] <cosmic_> everything is working fine .... i really dont understand
[14:44] <crazy_bus> Mythbuntu control centre is downloading additional package file.  At no time has it told me what these are.  Is there anyway to find out?
[14:45] <rockhound> what exactly does the 5.1 max audio selection do?
[14:47] <laga> crazy_bus: it's displaying what it's downloading, right?
[14:48] <crazy_bus> laga: no, it just says downloading file 5 of 24 at xkB/s
[14:49] <crazy_bus> laga: I just installed mythbuntu-desktop like the guide said (even though I don't want xfce) so I have no idea what else mythbuntu control centre wants
[14:50] <laga> crazy_bus: oh. it's probably just updating the package index then. unless it's displaying package names of course :)
[14:53] <crazy_bus> laga: what does it need to download for the package index (it's being downloading something for a while now)
[14:54] <laga> well, it downloads a list of packages available on the mirrors.
[14:56] <crazy_bus> laga: is this a separate package list to apt-get?
[14:56] <laga> no
[14:57] <crazy_bus> laga: why is it getting them in the mythbuntu control centre bar instead of the usual synaptic or adept?
[14:58] <rockhound> when I enable 5.1 max audio, all audio is gone via spdif coax
[14:59] <laga> crazy_bus: why not? ;) it uses the python apt bindings to do all the work.
[15:03] <crazy_bus> laga: it doesn't matter much.  But it's annoying for it to redownload every package list file and not tell you what exactly it's downloading.
[15:05] <laga> let me check
[15:06] <laga> what exactly did you do to get it to download stuff?
[15:08] <crazy_bus> installed mythbuntu-desktop from this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Gutsy_Backend_Frontend_Desktop  Then selected primarybackend, frontend, and kubuntudesktop was already installed.  Then I hit apply
[15:54] <Jinxed-> MythTv-- can I set it up to experiment with and still use my computer as normal, and can I easily uninstall if I wanted to?
[16:16]  * Penfold hrms. Okay.  Why is my PVR150 not behaving? :) I get white flyback lines on black, despite the fact that v4c2-ctl reckons I'm listening on composite 1 (same on 2).
[16:16] <Penfold> v4l2-ctl, even
[16:16] <laga> flyback lines?
[16:17] <laga> maybe you've got an issue with ground hum
[16:17] <Penfold> and no picture, otherwise.
[16:18]  * Penfold is starting to suspect that the SCART to composite lead he has doesn't work.
[16:23] <crazy_bus> I followed the installation guide.  But I'm not sure how to scan for channels.  Channel scanner in channel editor is greyed out
[16:26] <Jinxed-> Can someone help me get MythTv running?
[16:26] <cosmic_> Jinxed-:  wheres your problem ?
[16:26] <Jinxed-> Well I don't know where to start... I started with the doumentation
[16:26] <Jinxed-> and it just took me to a mythbuntu download page
[16:27] <Jinxed-> to start with I don't know if I should upgrade to 8.04
[16:27] <Jinxed-> from 7.10
[16:27] <Jinxed-> or does it matter
[16:27] <Jinxed-> or is mythbuntu a completly different os,
[16:27] <cosmic_> different to what ?
[16:27] <Jinxed-> then ubuntu
[16:28] <cosmic_> no , its not
[16:28] <Jinxed-> I want MythWeb
[16:28] <cosmic_> ok
[16:28] <Jinxed-> basically so I can have movies/music remotly
[16:28] <Jinxed-> when I am on the road
[16:28] <Jinxed-> I don't even have a tv tuner
[16:28] <cosmic_> ???
[16:28] <Jinxed-> maybe I would get one eventually but right now I just want a media server
[16:29] <cosmic_> you just want video and music for streaming ???
[16:29] <Jinxed-> I mean I don't have the stuff for the dvr part of myth tv
[16:29] <Jinxed-> I just want to be able to acess my compress movies and music
[16:29] <Jinxed-> and stream them
[16:29] <Jinxed-> remotly
[16:29] <cosmic_> sudo apt-get install gnump3d
[16:30] <Jinxed-> I take it mythtv isn't for me?
[16:31] <cosmic_> gnump3d is a streaming server , mythtv isnt meant for that what you want at the mom
[16:31] <Jinxed-> alright
[16:31] <Jinxed-> you ever hear of jinzora?
[16:31] <cosmic_> mom plz
[16:32] <cosmic_> yes i heard about it
[16:33] <cosmic_> whats with it ?
[16:33] <cosmic_> gnump3d is more rudimently
[16:33] <Jinxed-> hmm
[16:34] <Jinxed-> So I did the apt-get ... now what lol
[16:34] <cosmic_> but it does everything i need , to hear my music  everywhere i want
[16:34] <cosmic_> vi /etc/gnum3d/*.conf
[16:34] <cosmic_> wait .... i have to look after the name of the config file
[16:35] <cosmic_> what a suprise ! ;)
[16:35] <Jinxed-> lol
[16:35] <cosmic_> /etc/gnump3d/gnump3d.conf
[16:36] <cosmic_> now configure it ... Port = XX  , hostname = XXXXX.XX  , Music and Vid Dir = /foo/bar
[16:36] <cosmic_> ok ?
[16:36] <Jinxed-> hmm
[16:37] <Jinxed-> this is my first time doing anything like this... I don't know what you mean
[16:37] <cosmic_> ok
[16:37] <cosmic_> where is your server ? at home ?
[16:37] <Jinxed-> well I need to get one running
[16:38] <cosmic_> ???
[16:38] <Jinxed-> I wanted to start off getting a server going at home
[16:38] <cosmic_> ok , fine
[16:38] <Jinxed-> I thought that was what gnump3d was
[16:38] <Jinxed-> was a server
[16:38] <Jinxed-> well to make your computer into a server
[16:39] <cosmic_> your computer is an SERVER as long as he serves a service :)
[16:39] <Jinxed-> ha
[16:39] <cosmic_> open the file /etc/gnump3d/gnump3d.conf
[16:39] <cosmic_> with a texteditor of your choice
[16:39] <crazy_bus> I followed the installation guide.  But I'm not sure how to scan for channels.  Channel scanner in channel editor is greyed out
[16:39] <cosmic_> you have to be privileged as root
[16:40] <cosmic_> crazy_bus:  no tv tuner installed or no binding
[16:41] <crazy_bus> cosmic_ the tv tuner is I think set up.  It works in other programs and it seems to be detected in mythtv setup.  I don't know what binding is
[16:42] <cosmic_> tell me al the points wich are listet in mythtv-setup
[16:42] <cosmic_> i just know the german words for it
[16:42] <cosmic_> by the way ..sorry for my englisch guys
[16:42] <Jinxed-> its fine
[16:42] <cosmic_> Jinxed-:  did you open it ?
[16:42] <Jinxed-> yeah
[16:42] <Jinxed-> I have the conf file open
[16:43] <cosmic_> read trough it and search for a point , where you have to give the location of the  "MUSIC-Directory"
[16:44] <cosmic_> tell me al the points wich are listet in mythtv-setup @ crazy_bus
[16:45] <crazy_bus> cosmic_ in capture card settings?
[16:45] <cosmic_> no , in the main menu
[16:46] <cosmic_> @ crazy_bus
[16:46] <crazy_bus> cosmic_ 1. General 2. Capture cards 3. Video sources 4. Input connections 5. Channel editor 6. Storage directory
[16:47] <cosmic_> do you have edited 4. Input connections ???
[16:47] <cosmic_> and  3. Video sources
[16:47] <Jinxed-> hmm I am unable to mount my external drive to tranfer the music
[16:48] <Jinxed-> shit I think it is formated NTFS
[16:48] <Jinxed-> is there anyway to get the music off it?
[16:48] <cosmic_> yes
[16:48] <cosmic_> there is always a way in  Ubuntu
[16:49] <cosmic_> but i hope we want make the chann admins angry because thes theme is absolut OFF-TOPIC ;)
[16:49] <cosmic_> i'l back in some secs
[16:49] <Jinxed-> alright
[16:49] <crazy_bus> cosmic_ I edited those both again and now it's ungreyed
[16:50] <tgm4883_laptop> IIRC, NTFS drives should auto mount in hardy
[16:50] <crazy_bus> is there meant to be a mouse cursor.  As mine is invisible in mythtv except when hovering over text input boxes
[16:51] <cosmic_> crazy_bus:  now good luck , by scanning
[16:51] <cosmic_> crazy_bus:  mouse ?? , i think you can select deactivate MOUSE in the GENERAL Menu
[16:53] <cosmic_> Jinxed-:  give me a paste of your dmesg
[16:53] <crazy_bus> cosmic_I'm just wondering about setup.  As it's hard to select things when you cant see the mouse
[16:53] <Jinxed-> cosmic_, do you recommend that I upgrade to hardy before doing much more?
[16:54] <cosmic_> crazy_bus:  it is easy when you use your keyboard  | UP and Down Arrows for next or prev
[16:54] <tgm4883_laptop> crazy_bus, the mouse should be hidden
[16:54] <Jinxed-> cosmic_, I will be back soon. I am upgrading to hardy heron
[16:55] <cosmic_> Jinxed-:  i dont recommend , because support hasnt ended yet , only if you have known bugs , witch are disturbing you
[16:55] <Jinxed-> oh
[16:55] <Jinxed-> alright
[16:55] <Jinxed-> what is a dmesg then
[16:55] <cosmic_> but your free
[16:55] <Jinxed-> dmesg then
[16:55] <cosmic_> oh
[16:55] <cosmic_> i see
[16:55] <cosmic_> open a terminal
[16:55] <Jinxed-> k
[16:56] <cosmic_> APLICATIOS - Tools - Terminal
[16:56] <Jinxed-> have it open
[16:56] <cosmic_> i hope thats what you read in an english version
[16:56] <cosmic_> ok
[16:56] <cosmic_> now max the window
[16:57] <cosmic_> oh by the way , dont now anymore .. can you read from your external device ... or didnt even mount work ?
[16:58] <Jinxed-> I couldn't get it to work
[16:58] <cosmic_> ok
[16:58] <cosmic_> now type DMESG in your terminal but  in lower case
[16:58] <Jinxed-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11440/
[16:59] <cosmic_> did you unplug it ?
[16:59] <Jinxed-> I turned it off
[17:00] <cosmic_> plug it in , turn it on
[17:00] <Jinxed-> alright
[17:00] <cosmic_> and then crate a directory in /media
[17:00] <cosmic_> for example
[17:00] <cosmic_> sudo mkdir /media/extern
[17:01] <Jinxed-> ok
[17:01] <Jinxed-> done
[17:02] <cosmic_> sudo chown  YOURuSERnAME:users /media/extern
[17:02] <Jinxed-> done
[17:03] <cosmic_> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/extern
[17:03] <Jinxed-> $LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)
[17:03] <Jinxed-> Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Operation not supported
[17:03] <Jinxed-> Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action:
[17:03] <Jinxed-> Choice 1: If you have Windows then disconnect the external devices by
[17:03] <Jinxed->           clicking on the 'Safely Remove Hardware' icon in the Windows
[17:03] <Jinxed->           taskbar then shutdown Windows cleanly.
[17:03] <Jinxed-> Choice 2: If you don't have Windows then you can use the 'force' option for
[17:03] <Jinxed->           your own responsibility. For example type on the command line:
[17:03] <Jinxed->             mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/extern -o force
[17:03] <Jinxed->     Or add the option to the relevant row in the /etc/fstab file:
[17:03] <Jinxed->             /dev/sdb1 /media/extern ntfs-3g defaults,force 0 0
[17:04] <cosmic_> PLEASE use NO-PASTEbin SERVICES !!!!!!!
[17:04] <Jinxed-> sorry
[17:04] <cosmic_> np
[17:05] <cosmic_> paste me the output of :   mount
[17:05] <cosmic_> you see every device witch is mounted yet
[17:06] <cosmic_> is the device sdb1 in the output ?
[17:07] <Jinxed-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11443/
[17:07] <Jinxed-> I am not sure what you are asking
[17:09] <cosmic_> hmn
[17:09] <cosmic_> I dont know this Error message of mount
[17:09] <cosmic_> try Choice 2
[17:10] <cosmic_> how long do you use Linux Jinxed-
[17:10] <Jinxed-> well we had to do all our programming in redhat at school
[17:10] <Jinxed-> but I know windows better
[17:10] <Jinxed-> everything was already configured
[17:10] <Jinxed-> at school
[17:11] <cosmic_> np
[17:11] <Jinxed-> alright
[17:11] <cosmic_> but you have to read more about linux ...
[17:11] <Jinxed-> mounted the harddrive
[17:11] <Jinxed-> !
[17:11] <Jinxed-> where at?
[17:11] <cosmic_> look into the output of :     mount
[17:11] <cosmic_> its alwys : DEVICE  on MOUNPOINT
[17:12] <cosmic_> sdb1 is the 1 partition of device sdb
[17:12] <Jinxed-> should I put my music in /var/music
[17:12] <cosmic_> you can .. but you dont must
[17:12] <cosmic_> you dont have too
[17:12] <cosmic_> your free
[17:13] <Jinxed-> haha alright
[17:13] <cosmic_> hi crazy_bus
[17:13] <Jinxed-> when I try to copy my music it says error
[17:14] <Jinxed-> you don't have permission
[17:14] <cosmic_> error ?
[17:14] <cosmic_> sudo chown -R YourUserName:users  /media/extern
[17:15] <Jinxed-> nevermind I am just putting it in a different folder
[17:15] <crazy_bus> hi cosmic_ didn't mean to leave, I shut the wrong window
[17:16] <cosmic_> crazy_bus:  you dont have to say sorry to me
[17:17] <crazy_bus> I just wish my remote would work properly.  Volume and the number buttons work as well as play/pause. (using a kde program) but the other keys don't work and I'm having difficulty knowing what to do in mythtv
[17:17] <cosmic_> dont know the right english words for what i mean , sorry
[17:18] <cosmic_> crazy_bus:  i dont know how to manipulate the key functions , i just use lirc
[17:19] <crazy_bus> maybe my device isn't lirc compatible
[17:19] <cosmic_> did you try ?
[17:19] <Jinxed-> ok i put a couple gigs worth in... enough to get a server running
[17:19] <cosmic_> or google for it ?
[17:20] <cosmic_> Jinxed-:  SORRY but , would you be so kind to explain  "i put a couple gigs worth in..." , plz
[17:20] <crazy_bus> cosmic_ it's a avermedia tv card, which I selected.  And it didn't give me any errors.  But all of the buttons still aren't working
[17:20] <cosmic_> explain in other words !
[17:21] <cosmic_> crazy_bus:  where did you select them ?
[17:22] <Jinxed-> cosmic_, I just put a few gigs of music into the music folder so I have some music now
[17:22] <cosmic_> Jinxed-:  Do you have your Music local ?
[17:22] <crazy_bus> cosmic_ I selected it from the list in mythbuntu control centre
[17:22] <Jinxed-> I put it in the main folder/music
[17:23] <cosmic_> ok, crazy_bus : try $irrecord ..... Jinxed- : go back to your gnump3d.conf
[17:24] <cosmic_> Jinxed-:  search for the value to change to your music folder
[17:24] <Jinxed-> /home/kyle/Music
[17:26] <cosmic_> did you change it in gnump3d.conf
[17:26] <Jinxed-> yeah
[17:26] <Jinxed-> and I loaded amarok
[17:27] <cosmic_> thers a point : port = 8888
[17:27] <Jinxed-> yeah
[17:27] <cosmic_> change the value to a port you are able to a port of your choice or leave it and REMEMBER it
[17:28] <Jinxed-> can I change it to 1234?
[17:28] <cosmic_> change the value to a port Number of your choice  or leave it and REMEMBER it
[17:29] <Jinxed-> ok
[17:29] <Jinxed-> remembered
[17:29] <cosmic_> ok
[17:29] <cosmic_> mom
[17:29] <cosmic_> the point : binding_host =
[17:30] <Jinxed-> yeah
[17:30] <cosmic_> there has to be an uncommented "binding_host=IPAdressOfYourServer"
[17:30] <Jinxed-> #=comment?
[17:30] <cosmic_> do you have a second PC in your Network ?
[17:30] <Jinxed-> yeah
[17:30] <Jinxed-> multiple
[17:30] <cosmic_> yes # = comment
[17:31] <Jinxed-> ok saved
[17:31] <Jinxed-> with my ip address
[17:32] <cosmic_> mom , there is something with security
[17:32] <cosmic_> i have to go to toilette to recycle my BEER ! ;)
[17:33] <Jinxed-> haha
[17:33] <Jinxed-> alright
[17:33] <crazy_bus> can't get irrecord to work
[17:33] <Jinxed-> crazy_bus, he went to go pee
[17:34] <cosmic_> I LOVE German BEER ;)
[17:34] <cosmic_> so
[17:35] <cosmic_> Jinxed-: in your music directory must be a file called .password
[17:35] <crazy_bus> irrecord: could not init hardware (lircd running ? --> close it, check permissions)
[17:35] <cosmic_> create it and type : USERNAME:PASSWORD:x
[17:35] <cosmic_> crazy_bus:  is lirc running ?
[17:36] <cosmic_> no!
[17:36] <cosmic_> get it run
[17:36] <cosmic_> :)
[17:36] <cosmic_> crazy_bus:  give me the name of your remote unit
[17:36] <cosmic_> see dmesg
[17:37] <Jinxed-> cosmic_, I am not finding the password file
[17:37] <Jinxed-> ohhhh do i have to make the file?
[17:37] <cosmic_> you have to create it
[17:37] <crazy_bus> cosmic_it's part of this tv card [ 1549.184371] sp887x_initial_setup: firmware upload... sp887x: firmware upload complete
[17:38] <cosmic_> paste me your dmesg @ crazy_bus
[17:38] <Jinxed-> so in the form:  USERNAME:PASSWORD:x
[17:38] <cosmic_> :x ??? you mean the vi command to save !?! right !?!
[17:39] <Jinxed-> ?
[17:39] <Jinxed-> I don't use vi
[17:39] <cosmic_> in the form : USERNAME:PASSWORD
[17:39] <Jinxed-> I use gedit
[17:39] <Jinxed-> alright
[17:39] <Jinxed-> makes sense
[17:39] <Jinxed-> done
[17:39] <crazy_bus> ah got irrecord to start by using root
[17:40] <cosmic_> now go to a client an run a web browser ... browse for "SERVERIP:SERVERPORT"
[17:40] <cosmic_> sorry, do an : sudo /etc/init.d/gnump3d restart      on the server before
[17:41] <cosmic_> @ Jinxed-
[17:41] <Jinxed-> huh
[17:41] <crazy_bus> pff.
[17:41] <cosmic_> crazy_bus:  it schould start without being root to
[17:41] <cosmic_> but newer mind ..
[17:41] <cosmic_> go ahead for the first
[17:41] <crazy_bus> irrecord: error reading from /dev/lircd  irrecord: Success Segmentation fault
[17:42] <cosmic_>  paste me your dmesg @ crazy_bus
[17:42] <Jinxed-> cosmic_, alright I did the sudo command now what am I supose to do in firefox?
[17:43] <cosmic_> http://YOURIPADRESSOFSERVER:YOURCHOOSENPORT
[17:43] <crazy_bus> cosmic_    http://www.pastebin.ca/1014864
[17:44] <Jinxed-> I did that and it didn't do anything
[17:44] <cosmic_> [   39.562257] input: bttv IR (card=124) as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1e.0/0000:05:04.0/input/input7
[17:44] <cosmic_> your using hardy right @ crazy_bus
[17:44] <crazy_bus> cosmic_ yes
[17:44] <cosmic_> give me a mom crazy_bus
[17:45] <cosmic_> so Jinxed- what does your browser say ?
[17:45] <Jinxed-> Server not found
[17:46] <cosmic_> mom
[17:47] <cosmic_> 2 posibilities , no network connectivity or not the right port
[17:47] <cosmic_> standard port of gnump3d is 8888
[17:47] <cosmic_> my server listens on <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:48] <cosmic_> so i would type in firefox : <IP_ADDRESS>:8888
[17:48] <Jinxed-> oh you mean local ip
[17:48] <Jinxed-> I did like 69.209.XXX.XXX
[17:48] <cosmic_> your external IP ?
[17:48] <Jinxed-> yeah
[17:48] <cosmic_> extern of local Area Network ?
[17:48] <cosmic_> Fuck
[17:48] <cosmic_> ;)
[17:48] <cosmic_> local
[17:49] <cosmic_> for the first ...
[17:49] <cosmic_> i will healp you when it works local , for final
[17:49] <Jinxed-> so i need to change that on my conf file
[17:49] <cosmic_> you always have to change the conf , for doing well
[17:49] <cosmic_> ;)
[17:49] <Jinxed-> haha
[17:49] <Jinxed-> so the binding_host is my local ip?
[17:50] <cosmic_> jap
[17:50] <Jinxed-> jap?
[17:50] <cosmic_> crazy_bus: sorry, this will take longer
[17:50] <cosmic_> YEAH !
[17:50] <cosmic_> jap is YEAH on german slang ;)
[17:51] <Jinxed-> how do i find my local ip
[17:51] <cosmic_> terminal -> type : ifconfig
[17:51] <cosmic_> instead of IPCNFIG
[17:51] <cosmic_> IPCONFIG
[17:52] <cosmic_> in lower case , plz
[17:52] <Jinxed-> <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[17:52] <Jinxed-> sound right
[17:52] <cosmic_> sounds good to me
[17:52] <Jinxed-> ok save restart?
[17:52] <cosmic_> jap
[17:53] <cosmic_> and now go to a client
[17:53] <cosmic_> an enjoy STREAMING MUSIC
[17:54] <cosmic_> how long do you use Linux @ crazy_bus
[17:54] <Jinxed-> haha still says unable to find server
[17:54] <cosmic_> WHAT ?
[17:54] <cosmic_> no way
[17:54] <cosmic_> ;)
[17:54] <crazy_bus> cosmic_ two or so years
[17:54] <cosmic_> ping the IP on your client
[17:54] <Jinxed-> when i did  sudo /etc/init.d/gnump3d restart
[17:54] <Jinxed-> it said
[17:54] <Jinxed-> Restarting gnump3d: start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 20844: No such process
[17:54] <Jinxed-> gnump3d.
[17:54] <cosmic_> oh
[17:54] <crazy_bus> *without dual boot.    Kde works with some of the buttons (keyboard like ones, but not the more exotic ones)
[17:57] <cosmic_> do you recognize that too @ Jinxed- ? ;)
[17:58] <cosmic_> how did you insall lirc @ crazy_bus
[17:58] <cosmic_> compile
[17:58] <cosmic_> ??
[17:58] <crazy_bus> cosmic_ no though apt-get
[17:59] <Jinxed-> umm whats going on
[17:59] <Jinxed-> terminal is goin on
[17:59] <cosmic_> what do you read @ Jinxed- ?
[18:00] <cosmic_> whitch distro do you have @ crazy_bus
[18:00] <Jinxed-> 64 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq=84 ttl=64 time=0.022 ms
[18:00] <cosmic_> distri
[18:00] <Jinxed-> etc
[18:00] <crazy_bus> cosmic_ kubuntu 8.04
[18:00] <Jinxed-> lots of them
[18:00] <Jinxed-> how do i get them to stop
[18:00] <cosmic_> you can cancel that with pressing "STRG + C"
[18:01] <Jinxed->  <IP_ADDRESS> ping statistics ---
[18:01] <Jinxed-> 127 packets transmitted, 127 received, 0% packet loss, time 125997ms
[18:01] <cosmic_> crazy_bus:  I dondt know 8.04 so good , are there all modules installed to ?
[18:01] <cosmic_> too
[18:02] <crazy_bus> cosmic_ mythbuntu modules?  If so I installed mythbuntu-desktop and all its dependicies
[18:03] <cosmic_> i meant lirc modules, but they should have been installed with muthbuntu
[18:03] <Jinxed-> cosmic_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11454/
[18:03] <cosmic_> Jinxed-:  on Terminal do : telnet IPOFSERVER  PORTNUMBER
[18:03] <Jinxed-> when I typed gnump3d
[18:04] <cmdln> mmm my hauppage 350 grey remote does not seem be registering
[18:04] <crazy_bus> lirc, liblircclient, kdelirc are all installed
[18:04] <Jinxed-> Trying <IP_ADDRESS>...
[18:04] <Jinxed-> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[18:04] <cosmic_> does gnump3d have permissions to acces this DIRECTORY ? @ Jinxed-
[18:04] <Jinxed-> je ne sa pas
[18:04] <Jinxed-> i don't know
[18:05] <cosmic_> oh
[18:05] <cosmic_> so know its on to you
[18:05] <cosmic_> check in the gnump3d.conf the user= whitsch gnump3d is running
[18:05] <cosmic_> is this user the owner of the gnump3d root directory or even in the group ?
[18:06] <Jinxed-> there is only one user
[18:06] <cosmic_> witch one ?
[18:06] <Jinxed-> kyle
[18:06] <cosmic_> crazy_bus:  Is ther another package you cann install ... starting with lirc ?
[18:06] <Jinxed-> if I give you remote acess can you figure out what your asking
[18:07] <cosmic_> But it will not help you !
[18:07] <crazy_bus> cosmic_ input lirc
[18:07] <Jinxed-> I can see what your doing
[18:07] <Jinxed-> and you can explain
[18:07] <Jinxed-> I have to pee!   Any chance you can guide me though it.    What do I do next?
[18:13] <Jinxed-> so the part that says #  user = nobody  # Some comment
[18:13] <cosmic_> Whats the meaning of : "for the record:"  ??? Could anyone explain it in other words ?
[18:14] <cosmic_> please
[18:15] <Jinxed-> for the record: I want to make sure you know I said this
[18:15] <Jinxed-> alright
[18:16] <Jinxed-> so am i supose to uncomment out the user part and put kyle?
[18:16] <cosmic_> crazy_bus:  COOL ,know create a ".lircrc" File for myth and mplayer in case you use that .... in format :http://paste.ubuntu.com/11457/
[18:16] <cosmic_> Jinxed-: , THX
[18:17] <cosmic_> jap, but remember thats the bad way of configuring a service !!!!! its just for TEST !!!!
[18:17] <cosmic_> @ Jinxed-
[18:18] <cosmic_> in the World of OS , every Service should run regulary as a own user , in my oppinion
[18:18] <Jinxed-> ok
[18:19] <Jinxed-> did it
[18:19] <crazy_bus> cosmic_ so I have to set every key manually in a text file?
[18:20] <cosmic_> laga:  thanks for the hint
[18:20] <cosmic_> i just know it that way , sorry crazy_bus
[18:20] <cosmic_> Jinxed-: restart gnump3d
[18:21] <cosmic_> then try again
[18:21] <Jinxed-> ok did it
[18:22] <cosmic_> then try again from a client
[18:22] <Jinxed-> still onthing
[18:22] <cosmic_> was there a error by starting gnump3d again ?
[18:22] <Jinxed-> yeah
[18:22] <cosmic_> lol
[18:23] <cosmic_> would you please be so kind and tell it to me ?
[18:23] <cosmic_> i cant see your Monitor
[18:23] <Jinxed-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11458/
[18:24] <Jinxed-> sorry had to pastebin ;)
[18:24] <cosmic_> np
[18:24] <cosmic_> give me a mom i isnatll it on my pc and try
[18:25] <Jinxed-> lol alright
[18:26] <crazy_bus> I'm to lazy to do it by hand.  So I found this cool website to do the config for me http://lircconfig.commandir.com/
[18:26] <Jinxed-> hahaha i think i figured it out
[18:27] <cosmic_> yes ? Jinxed-
[18:27] <crazy_bus> thanks for all your help cosmic_.  I must sleep now
[18:27] <Jinxed-> music != Music
[18:27] <cosmic_> crazy_bus:  your welcome
[18:28] <cosmic_> crazy_bus: you did most of it by your own , thats cool
[18:28] <cosmic_> GOOD NIGHT !
[18:28] <crazy_bus> is mythtv constantly stealing my tv card.  Because the frontend is closed.  But kaffeine now won't load the tv card
[18:29] <cosmic_> crazy_bus: you can decide , in the mythtv.setup
[18:29] <cosmic_> crazy_bus: you can decide , in the mythtv-setup
[18:29] <Jinxed-> cosmic_ woot! new problem
[18:29] <laga> "open on demand" might break EIT scanning
[18:29] <cosmic_> woot ?
[18:29] <Jinxed-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11459/
[18:29] <cosmic_> what the hell is that for a word ?
[18:29] <Jinxed-> woot means like alright
[18:29] <Jinxed-> sweert
[18:29] <Jinxed-> sweet
[18:30] <cosmic_> lol
[18:30] <Jinxed-> awesome
[18:30] <cosmic_> ok
[18:31] <cosmic_> you have changed the user= VALUE to your local user , and your local user hasnt got acces (write) to the directory : /var/log/gnump3d/
[18:31] <crazy_bus> cosmic_ ta, found the option.   PLEASE DONT CHANGE THE RIGHTS OF THE /VAR/LOG/ DIR !!!
[18:32] <Jinxed-> lol
[18:32] <cosmic_> Good LUCK crazy_bus
[18:32] <cosmic_> You will figure it out , i know that
[18:32] <Jinxed-> I was just going to put the log in a different file
[18:32] <cosmic_> jap , thats the rigth way Jinxed-
[18:32] <cmdln> grr
[18:33] <cosmic_> Dont forget running gnump3d as Kyle ... is just for testing ... OK ?
[18:33] <cmdln> so if I cat /dev/lirc0 and press buttons i get some characters spit back. But I cant seem to get irw to give me back any registered keys
[18:33] <cosmic_> HEy cmdln , dont be so angry
[18:34] <Jinxed-> any place special i should put it?
[18:34] <cosmic_> dont know ... /home/kyle   ??? Where do you (your user name ) have qaccess
[18:34] <cosmic_> ??
[18:34] <cosmic_> cmdln:  wheres your prob ?
[18:35] <cmdln> seems to be lirc config
[18:35] <cosmic_> lirc is started ?
[18:35] <cmdln> yes
[18:35] <cosmic_> did you proof that ?
[18:35] <cosmic_> sorry for my english
[18:35] <cmdln> /usr/sbin/lircd --device=/dev/lirc0
[18:36] <cmdln> from ps aux | grep lirc
[18:36] <cosmic_> ah
[18:36] <cosmic_> ok
[18:36] <cosmic_> so what exactly , doesnt work ?
[18:36] <cosmic_> Jinxed-:  how is it ?
[18:36] <cmdln> my grey hauppage remote
[18:36] <cmdln> on my pvr 350
[18:36] <cosmic_> i have it to
[18:37] <cmdln> when I run irw and press buttons I get nothing back
[18:37] <cosmic_> not the PVR 350 , but the remote control the grey
[18:37] <Jinxed-> hmm
[18:37] <Jinxed-> i changed it to /home/kyle/software/gnump3d
[18:37] <Jinxed-> and it still says I don't have permission to write
[18:37] <cmdln> I do however get stuff if I cat /dev/lirc0 and press buttons, so there is some signal
[18:38] <cosmic_> i dont remember very well but i thinc you need a lircrc  for displaying keys in "irw"
[18:39] <cosmic_> type :  chmod 777 /home/kyle/software/  && chmod -R 7777     /home/kyle/software/        DELETE it after testing!!!!!!!!!11
[18:39] <cosmic_> or undo chmod 777
[18:40] <cosmic_> cmdln:  didi you irrecord  ???
[18:40] <cmdln> no
[18:41] <cosmic_> then do it
[18:41] <cosmic_> and try out
[18:41] <Jinxed-> said operation not permitted
[18:41] <cosmic_> no garuntee
[18:41] <cosmic_> dont forget sudo @ Jinxed-
[18:41] <cosmic_> STOP
[18:41] <Jinxed-> tried it still said
[18:42] <Jinxed-> kyle@Dell-Lynix:~$ sudo chmod 777 /home/kyle/software/  && chmod -R 7777     /home/kyle/software/
[18:42] <Jinxed-> chmod: changing permissions of `/home/kyle/software/gnump3d/access.log': Operation not permitted
[18:42] <Jinxed-> chmod: changing permissions of `/home/kyle/software/gnump3d/error.log': Operation not permitted
[18:42] <cosmic_> create as user Kyle an directory called : /home/Kyle/lirc
[18:42] <cosmic_> you have forgotten sudo on the twice , by the way
[18:43] <cosmic_> on the twice ???? at the second time
[18:43] <Jinxed-> oh
[18:44] <Jinxed-> well I just changed it to /home/kyle/lirc/error.log same problem
[18:44] <Jinxed-> chmod those files?
[18:44] <cosmic_> ????
[18:44] <cosmic_> how is that possible ? chown this dir
[18:45] <cosmic_> now i just think i am tooo DAU , too help you guys
[18:45] <cosmic_> i will drink a GERMAN BEER , by the way ;)
[18:48] <cosmic_> your finished @ cmdln ?
[18:48] <cosmic_> your finished @ Jinxed- ?
[18:49] <Jinxed-> huh?
[18:49] <cosmic_> I have to whatch a Video with my girlFirend tonight ... so whats up
[18:50] <Jinxed-> ok i tried chmod
[18:51] <cosmic_> did you try chown ?
[18:51] <Jinxed-> chown?
[18:51] <Jinxed-> kyle@Dell-Lynix:~$ gnump3d
[18:51] <Jinxed->   The directory which we will write a record of files being served
[18:51] <Jinxed->  isn't writable by us - /var/cache/gnump3d/serving.
[18:51] <Jinxed->   Please fix this by either changing the permissions on that directory
[18:51] <Jinxed->  or setting an alternate directory by changing the following line:
[18:51] <Jinxed->     now_playing_path = /var/cache/gnump3d/serving
[18:51] <cosmic_> chown (-R) user:group  DIR
[18:51] <Jinxed-> hold on i think it is working
[18:52] <cosmic_> ???
[18:52] <Jinxed-> it worked!
[18:52] <cosmic_> good
[18:52] <cosmic_> what do you see ?
[18:52] <Jinxed-> username/password prompt
[18:53] <cosmic_> and after it ?
[18:54] <Jinxed-> ugly green/grey gnump3d page
[18:54] <Jinxed-> with all my music
[18:54] <cosmic_> so fucking wheres your problem ? ;=)
[18:54] <Jinxed-> no problem
[18:55] <cosmic_> now , you have to edit, gnump and you filesystem so , that gnump3d can run as its own user
[18:55] <Jinxed-> nice
[18:55] <cosmic_> you dont have to , remember ... YOUR FREE
[18:55] <cosmic_> but it would be the secured version in my oppinion
[18:56] <cosmic_> ther are cool themes for gnump3d , just google it
[18:56] <cosmic_> just google them !
[18:56] <cosmic_> sorry
[18:58] <Jinxed-> sorry for what... helping me get my program running
[18:59] <cosmic_> no sorry for writing shit english
[18:59] <cosmic_> :)
[18:59] <cosmic_> or american , as u prefer
[18:59] <Jinxed-> haha
[18:59] <cosmic_> :)
[19:00] <Jinxed-> so what are the next steps to be able to access remotly
[19:01] <cosmic_> now you have to edit ....... nump3d and your filesystem for reading (executing ) the files by its own user (gnump3d .... or what ubuntu creates for this service) , then i tell you a possibility how to make YOUR OWN SERVER ;)     public
[19:03] <Jinxed-> what is nump3d
[19:03] <cosmic_> sorry i meant : gnump3d
[19:04] <cosmic_> did you try streaming music to a client ?
[19:04] <Jinxed-> ok so what is the nextstep
[19:04] <cosmic_> so quick ?
[19:04] <Jinxed-> it says .m3u
[19:05] <cosmic_> did you realy changed everything ?
[19:05] <cosmic_> did you tried to open the .m3u file ? , try it out !
[19:05] <cosmic_> i am on a recycling way :)
[19:05] <Jinxed-> i tried it said i don't have the codec
[19:08] <cosmic_> do you have vlc ? or totem ?
[19:09] <Jinxed-> no
[19:10] <cosmic_> what do you use as audio player ?
[19:10] <cosmic_> you need a client that is compatible to m3u playlists
[19:12] <Jinxed-> amarok
[19:13] <cosmic_> ? i dont youse amarok , sorry
[19:13] <cosmic_> install vlc , thats what i know
[19:14] <cosmic_> you can deinstall it afterwards by typing : sudo apt-get remove --purge vlc
[19:14] <Jinxed-> open with
[19:14] <Jinxed-> how do i find other programs
[19:14] <cosmic_> you have to google the WORLD or THE FORUMS , why amarok doesnt work @ the mom
[19:14] <Jinxed-> where are they located
[19:15] <cosmic_> /usr/bin/
[19:15] <cosmic_> it should be listet without searching when its installed
[19:15] <cosmic_> cmdln: are you there ?
[19:15] <cosmic_> whats your status quo ?
[19:16] <Jinxed-> cosmic it works with amarok
[19:16] <Jinxed-> i just had to figure out how to open it with it
[19:16] <cosmic_> cool , and you did it by your own , thats cool
[19:17] <Jinxed-> yep
[19:17] <cosmic_> so is gnump3d working ?
[19:17] <Jinxed-> now to make it so I can acess this from anywhere
[19:17] <Jinxed-> yeah
[19:17] <cosmic_> good
[19:17] <cosmic_> do you like it ?
[19:17] <Jinxed-> do i just change my local ip to external ip?
[19:17] <Jinxed-> yeah
[19:17] <Jinxed-> its nice
[19:17] <Jinxed-> eventually maybe get something with a few more features
[19:18] <cosmic_> ok yes , just change , and make clear thet the route is fine
[19:18] <Jinxed-> how come the music is now m3u instead of mp3
[19:19] <cmdln> cosmic_: yeh, i got some of them recorded
[19:19] <cosmic_> m3u is a  "PLAYLIST FORMAT" it sets the path for the mp3 files and as i think about it some other options too
[19:19] <cmdln> now irw shows keys
[19:19] <cmdln> still dont register in myth
[19:19] <cosmic_> cmdln:  you have created a file by using  irrecord ?
[19:20] <cmdln> yeh
[19:20] <cosmic_> thats normal
[19:20] <cmdln> and i started lircd with that config
[19:20] <cmdln> restarted myth-backed and mythfrontend
[19:20] <cosmic_> you have to copy this file in the  ~/mythtv/.lircrc
[19:20] <Jinxed-> hmm
[19:20] <Jinxed-> it doesn't work when i put external ip in
[19:20] <cosmic_> moment
[19:21] <cosmic_> i mean the file with the format i gave you !
[19:21] <cosmic_> is the external IP VALUE still VALID ???
[19:22] <Jinxed-> i just went to whatismyip on google
[19:22] <Jinxed-> and got it
[19:22] <Jinxed-> and changed the conf file
[19:22] <Jinxed-> restarted it
[19:22] <Jinxed-> and then typed it in
[19:22] <Jinxed-> and it didn't work
[19:22] <cosmic_> how do you route it ?
[19:23] <cmdln> cosmic_: copied the file to /home/mythtv/.lircrc restarted mythbackend and frontend
[19:24] <cmdln> still no go inside mythtv
[19:24] <cosmic_> paste the file to me @ cmdln
[19:25] <cmdln> cant paste it ... no networking to that box atm
[19:26] <cosmic_> ?????
[19:26] <cosmic_>  scp ????
[19:26] <cmdln> no networking at all
[19:26] <Jinxed-> all i did wa change the binding_host to my external ip
[19:26] <Jinxed-> what else do i need to do
[19:26] <Jinxed-> and restarted gnump3d
[19:27] <cosmic_> does it look like : http://paste.ubuntu.com/11471/
[19:28] <cosmic_>  how do you route it ? @ Jinxed-
[19:28] <Jinxed-> route it?
[19:28] <cmdln> cosmic_: yeah looks similar
[19:30] <Jinxed-> well i do use a router
[19:30] <cosmic_> Jinxed-:  look , There is a LAN - LOCAL AREA NETWORK , in witch you clients @ hosts exist and live ... to exist they need a switch ... this is an komponent to connect cleints and hosts ... ...to connect all these clients you need a router .... which routes your LAN ADRESSES to Another IP-Segment .....
[19:30] <Jinxed-> if that is what you mean
[19:30] <Jinxed-> alright
[19:30] <cosmic_>  ...to connect all these clients to the internet you need a router .... which routes your LAN ADRESSES to Another IP-Segment .....
[19:31] <Jinxed-> yeah
[19:31] <Jinxed-> i am connected through a router
[19:31] <cosmic_> ok
[19:32] <cosmic_> so tell the router to route everything on PORT = YOUREGNUMP3DPORT       TO THE HOST WHERE GNUMP§D IS RUNNING ON ...
[19:32] <cosmic_> cmdln:  This file is the /etc/lirc/lircd.conf
[19:33] <cmdln> ok brb
[19:33] <Jinxed-> how would i do that
[19:33] <cmdln> going to try to fix the bridge first
[19:33] <Jinxed-> I don't have acess to the router
[19:33] <cosmic_> the lircrc file schould look like  this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/11457/
[19:33] <Jinxed-> cosmic_, do you use any im clients?
[19:33] <cosmic_> brb ???
[19:33] <cosmic_> whats that ?
[19:33] <Jinxed-> =mom
[19:33] <Jinxed-> i think
[19:33] <cosmic_> löl
[19:33] <Jinxed-> be right back
[19:34] <cosmic_> you think = brb = mom
[19:34] <cosmic_> oh i see
[19:34] <cosmic_> :)
[19:34] <Jinxed-> i don't know what mom means
[19:34] <Jinxed-> mom= mother for short
[19:34] <cosmic_> mom = just a moment
[19:34] <Jinxed-> =brb
[19:34] <cosmic_> he he
[19:34] <cosmic_> what is im clients ?
[19:35] <Jinxed-> msn, aim, yahoo,
[19:35] <Jinxed-> etcx
[19:35] <cosmic_> i think i youse yahoo
[19:35] <cosmic_> i hope so ;)
[19:35] <Jinxed-> hmm
[19:35] <Jinxed-> alright
[19:35] <Jinxed-> well ihave to go right now
[19:35] <Jinxed-> I have to buy clothes for a meeting tonight
[19:35] <Jinxed-> Thank you for everything
[19:35] <cosmic_> tonight ?
[19:36] <Jinxed-> I am in the US
[19:36] <cosmic_> are you american ?
[19:36] <Jinxed-> it is only 2:30 pm here
[19:36] <cosmic_> oh i see
[19:36] <Jinxed-> yeah
[19:36] <cosmic_> löl
[19:36] <cosmic_> its 8:36 PM over here
[19:36] <Jinxed-> Anyway thanks again
[19:36] <cosmic_> ;)
[19:36] <Jinxed-> adios
[19:36] <cosmic_> nothing too thanks , good luck
[19:36] <cosmic_> cu
[19:39] <cosmic_> hey cmdln how is it ?
[19:39] <cosmic_> i have to leave soon
[19:42] <cosmic_> ok i managed it with my girlfriend , i will wait for you ... but i go to toillete a first ;)
[19:51] <cosmic_> so whats up ? @ cmdln
[19:53] <cosmic_> there is a half a hour where i can wait ..
[20:07] <cosmic_> In witch Menu can i setup my recordings Folder ????
[20:23] <ille_> mythtv-setup 6. storage groups
[20:24] <cosmic_> ille thx
[20:31] <Metox> I get the following out put when listing the pci bus. I am not sur if the drivers are instlled ok. How can I check?
[20:31] <Metox> 02:0b.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11)
[20:31] <Metox> 02:0b.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11)
[20:31] <Metox> 02:0b.0 0400: 109e:036e (rev 11)
[20:31] <Metox>         Subsystem: 107d:6609
[20:31] <Metox>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 19
[20:31] <Metox>         Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K]
[20:31] <Metox>         Capabilities: <access denied>
[20:31] <Metox> 02:0b.1 0480: 109e:0878 (rev 11)
[20:31] <Metox>         Subsystem: 107d:6609
[20:31] <Metox>         Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 19
[20:31] <Metox>         Memory at e0001000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K]
[20:31] <Metox>         Capabilities: <access denied>
[20:34] <Metox> MythTV does not detect the card, but the OS sees it. What is the easiest way to install the drivers?
[20:52] <reclusivemonkey> hello everyone
[22:32] <Corvix> hi everyone, I've been using mythtv for quite a while now, and I still wonder if theres a more convenient way to manage channels in mythtv than the setup channel editor or the mythweb?


[21:57] <ia> hello. I have a question about indicator-applet-session. Could anyone tell me, please, how can i call its shutdown dialog ("The computer will be shutdown in") from terminal?


[04:36] <tsimonq2> Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 515 for the week of August 1 - 7, 2017 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue515
[04:36] <guiverc> :)
[04:37] <tsimonq2> guiverc: oh hey!
[04:37] <tsimonq2> guiverc: So I'm curious, when you move stuff to the wiki page, do you use the Issue Template or do you just copy from the last issue?
[04:38] <guiverc> latter - i (re-)discovered the template location only a couple of hours ago :)
[04:39] <tsimonq2> guiverc: Ok, could you please use that for now on? I use the comments when publishing. ;)
[04:40] <guiverc> yep - have favorited it already; will endeavor to do so in future
[04:41] <tsimonq2> Ok cool, thanks :D
[04:42] <guiverc> skel has script running info !!  I never found that ... you've helped me anyway tsimonq2
[04:43] <tsimonq2> :D
[04:43] <tsimonq2> guiverc: That's what I copy/paste from :P
[04:45] <tsimonq2> Btw guiverc, I really appreciate the hard work you've put into UWN. :)
[04:45] <tsimonq2> I'm really happy things are moving better :D
[04:46] <guiverc> my 70th contrib - i'm getting better i hope anyway
[04:46] <tsimonq2> For sure :)
[04:52] <tsimonq2> Alright, all done. Night!
[04:53] <guiverc> night - thanks tsimonq2