[04:34] <scott_> Mounting the windows partition did not work
[04:34] <defz> it shows sound playing on PCM Out 1 and 2
[04:34] <defz> but the digital mixer is dead
[04:34] <scott_> also my sound blaster doesn't work
[04:35] <scott_> Is it possible for me to be able to change the resolution to 1280x1024?
[04:35] <sproingie> ivoks: ah.  well, technically that should work
[04:35] <Octane> is the openoffice.org2-common package openoffice 2.0 beta?
[04:35] <Echo_Mage> ALL: Do you have to be connected to the web to install Ubuntu?
[04:35] <crimsun> defz: use it to adjust the mixer elements. I don't use that software because I don't have that hardware.
[04:35] <crimsun> Echo_Mage: no
[04:35] <jalyst> woah this channels seriously busy, 1st time ubuntu user here, hi folks!
[04:35] <defz> ah ok
[04:35] <Echo_Mage> Okay I was wondering
[04:35] <xero> Octane: yeah i think openoffice2 is still in beta
[04:35] <crimsun> scott_: paste the output of amixer onto pastebin.com
[04:35] <defz> so you think from here, its a mixer problem specific to my card?
[04:36] <Octane> xero, youre right, but is that it?
[04:36] <defz> i just need to figure out the right settings?
[04:36] <Octane> i mean, is that hte beta vversipon
[04:36] <Echo_Mage> Open Office 2 is still in Beta
[04:36] <Octane> *verision
[04:36] <Octane> yes i know
[04:36] <crimsun> defz: it's not a "problem" - you just need to mute and/or unmute the appropriate elements.
[04:36] <xero> Octane: yes i think so
[04:36] <Octane> but is that a package of the beta version?
[04:36] <scott_> crimsun: what is amixer?
[04:36] <david> does ubuntu come with a firewall?
[04:36] <ivoks> sproingie: not allways
[04:36] <ivoks> david: :)
[04:36] <ivoks> david: every linux comes with firewall
[04:36] <fishie> are there any webcam programs for gnome
[04:36] <crimsun> scott_: a command. Open a Terminal, type amixer, and paste the output onto the pastebin.com web site.
[04:36] <abarbaccia> hey bob2 i need some help with installing a package - it says its broken, any advice on how to fix it
[04:37] <david> oh lol
[04:37] <ivoks> david: the questiong is... do you need firewall? this isn't windows :)
[04:37] <david> where can i go to cinfugre it
[04:37] <jalyst> hey, can anyone point me to a good up-to-date guide for getting FreeNX server running on hoary? I want to install the client on my XP (gaming) box so ill never be too far away from ubuntu :-)
[04:37] <xero> Octane: yes it is b/c the version number is 1.9.x which Openoffice is calling the beta for 2.0
[04:37] <scott_> crimsun: when I go to pastebin.com it says Query failure: Can't open file: 'pastebin.MYI'. (errno: 145)
[04:37] <scott_> select pid,poster,unix_timestamp()-unix_timestamp(posted) as age, date_format(posted, '%a %D %b %H:%i') as postdate from pastebin where domain='' order by posted desc, pid desc limit 10
[04:37] <Octane> well it doesnt work, there is no openoffice.org2-core
[04:37] <ivoks> david: netfilter (linux firewall) isn't point and click software
[04:37] <xero> Octane: i installed openoffice.org2 and that has worked fine
[04:38] <Octane> ya but -core
[04:38] <Echo_Mage> ivoks> no matter what OS you run you should have a firewall, no one is safe nowadays
[04:38] <xero> i dont know
[04:38] <mike_douglas> I'm getting md5sum mismatches on the server (both ca and us mirrors), would this be on my end or yours?
[04:38] <ivoks> david: you can try to configure netfilter with firestarter
[04:38] <Octane> is missing
[04:38] <Davey> my windows box is perfectly virus, spam and spyware protected...
[04:38] <ivoks> Echo_Mage: firewalls on local computers are useless
[04:39] <Davey> course, it has no CD/Floppy drives, no USB ports and no internet connection :)
[04:39] <david> ivoks: whats firestarter (im a noob)
[04:39] <Echo_Mage> On local machines yes
[04:39] <xero> Octane: its missing in synaptic? are your repositories up to date?
[04:39] <Octane> yes they are
[04:39] <Octane> and yes its missing
[04:39] <Octane> Package openoffice.org2-core is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:39] <ivoks> david: firestarter is graphical tool that will help you set up netfilter (linux firewall)
[04:39] <jalyst> did anyone get that query of mine?
[04:39] <scott_> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/14211
[04:39] <Octane> firestarter is very good
[04:39] <Octane> highly recommended
[04:39] <david> ivoks: how do i get to it
[04:39] <Echo_Mage> ivoks> on a good server a linux OS with a firewall is like fort know to a hacker
[04:40] <ivoks> david: netfilter is very very powerfull firewall, there is NO gui that will show you all it can do
[04:40] <Echo_Mage> ivoks: 8knox I mean
[04:40] <ivoks> david: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[04:40] <xero> Octane: are your repositorires set up correctly?
[04:40] <Octane> yes they are sir.
[04:40] <vinux> hey does anyone know of the name of the gnome cdrw software?
[04:40] <xero> hmmmm
[04:40] <Octane> universe hoary security
[04:40] <Octane> i have those
[04:40] <david> thanks ivoks
[04:40] <ivoks> Echo_Mage: lol, so little you know :)
[04:40] <Octane> nothign extas
[04:40] <scott_> all: my soundcard isn't working the output of amixer is listed here:http://pastebin.ca/14211
[04:41] <Echo_Mage> All I know is Nux rocks
[04:41] <Madpilot> vinux: gnomebaker?
[04:41] <ivoks> Echo_Mage: i takes one syn flood to take you down
[04:41] <vinux> Madpilot, hmm let me check
[04:41] <david> nice to know ivoks ;)
[04:41] <Echo_Mage> ivoks: never said I knew it all
[04:41] <jalyst> can anyone point me to a good up-to-date guide for getting FreeNX server running on hoary?
[04:42] <Echo_Mage> ivoks: only know what I need to know and how to find out what I want to know
[04:42] <Gskillet> Has anyone here used FakeAP before?
[04:42] <ivoks> there is no rock solid solution for anything
[04:42] <xero> Octane: i have it working on mine... i dont know which repository it gets it form... if i were to guess it would be the backports one.  my repositories are setup like the sources.list file from www.ubuntuguide.com but w/out the nerim one (i guess its broken)
[04:42] <bob2> abarbaccia: define "broken"
[04:42] <xero> so if you dont have it setup like those repositories then i would do that if i were you... the default ubuntu ones are iffy at best from what ive seen
[04:42] <cb122> nerim died thursday nite as far as I could tell
[04:42] <ivoks> xero: leave out backports too
[04:43] <bob2> abarbaccia: also, if it's from outside ubuntu, don't even try
[04:43] <xero> ivoks: why the backports? they seem good and working for me
[04:43] <ivoks> xero: they aren't so good...
[04:43] <xero> ivoks: and from what i know they have some stuff that u can only get form there
[04:43] <ivoks> xero: they update libs
[04:44] <ivoks> xero: that's something backporting shouldn't do
[04:44] <xero> oh
[04:44] <ivoks> that breaks other apps
[04:44] <xero> well what do you use instead then? jeesh
[04:44] <xero> :-P
[04:44] <ivoks> nothing
[04:44] <xero> well how would i get software from there that i need to use then?
[04:45] <bob2> for example?
[04:45] <Echo_Mage> Setup takes ages on this clunker it seems
[04:45] <xero> uh... cant remember for sure but i think vlc is from there... something w/ dvd::rip i think
[04:46] <scott_> all: I need help mounting my windows partition, it is listed as sda1
[04:46] <xero> ok no problem
[04:46] <xero> scott_ : http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs
[04:47] <xero> and instead  of hda1 use the sda1
[04:47] <crimsun> scott_: ok, looking
[04:47] <xero> if thats the right partition
[04:47] <scott_> xero: I tried that already, with no avail
[04:47] <scott_> crimsun: thanks for your help
[04:48] <crimsun> scott_: which model sblive? I need the lspci -v line
[04:48] <xero> scott_: are you sure it is sda1? is there another sda listed when u fdisk -l ?
[04:49] <Octane> why should we add backports to the list
[04:49] <xero> Octane: from what iknow, they have some software that u cant get w/out them however ivoks said they update things that they shouldnot update
[04:49] <scott_> xero:http://pastebin.ca/14213
[04:49] <scott_> xero: thats my fdisk
[04:50] <scott_> crimsun:audigy 2 zs
[04:50] <crimsun> scott_: amixer sset 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on
[04:50] <david> does bittorrent come with ubuntu??
[04:50] <abbot45> ok, ive got a partitioning question.  i have 2 seperate hard drives (10 & 40).  when i install ubuntu it wont let me have my home directory shared on both drives, so unless i use all 10 gigs of the other drive for OS stuff a bunch of space is going to waste.  How can i fix this?
[04:51] <xero> scott_: it looks like ur windows partition is in fact sdb1
[04:51] <xero> because it says NTFS under the partition type
[04:51] <scott_> xero,crimsun: thanks for your guys help I have to go now I will try your solutions and get back to you
[04:51] <xero> no prob
[04:51] <Gskillet> Has anyone here used FakeAP before?
[04:52] <abbot45> can i not assign a home directory and just have both drives as root directory?
[04:52] <bob2> abbot45: what does "shared on both drives" mean?
[04:52] <xero> no what is it?
[04:52] <bob2> abbot45: you're trying to do mirroring?
[04:52] <abbot45> i dont know what that is.
[04:52] <abbot45> haha
[04:52] <jbroome> Gskillet: good to see you're still asking that.
[04:52] <xero> gskillet: what is fakeap?
[04:52] <vinux> woot frozen bubble rocks
[04:53] <bob2> abbot45: so, why don't you explain what you're trying to do
[04:53] <jbroome> saturates the air with fake wireless accesspoints to throw off wardrivers
[04:53] <Gskillet> xero: it generates fake airports
[04:53] <xero> airports?!!  like the places where planes fly into?! i am already confused :-P
[04:54] <Echo_Mage> Fake wireless access points?
[04:54] <seth_k> yep, and fake planes too
[04:54] <Ninwa> Are there any good podcasting clients in the ubuntu repository, anyone know offhand?
[04:54] <abbot45> what i am trying to fix is that when i install and put my root on the 10 gig drive it makes me assign my 40 gig drive with something different, like /home.  but that means that since my home is only on the 40 gig drive, there is a bunch of room on the 10 gig going to waste since i cant save stuff on it.  or am i wrong?
[04:54] <jbroome> Ninwa: do a search for ipodder, that seems to be a good one
[04:54] <jalyst> anyone here gotten FreeNX (server) running nicely on hoary?
[04:54] <bob2> abbot45: there's no simple way around that
[04:54] <Ninwa> Yeah I used that on windows, I hope its in the repository! :)
[04:54] <xero> or do you mean like it makes a computer act as an access point?
[04:54] <abbot45> bob2, i figured as much.
[04:55] <bob2> abbot45: you could use LVM if you really cared
[04:55] <Ninwa> No dice! :( Oh well.
[04:55] <bob2> abbot45: but then if one disk goes, you lose everything
[04:55] <seth_k> Ninwa: if iPodder too hard, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41085
[04:55] <abarbaccia> hey all - can someone help me find a deb that provides an sdl gui?
[04:56] <abbot45> i think i may just deal with it.  if i had a bigger 2nd drive than 40gigs the extra space that im loosing wouldnt matter as much.
[04:56] <Echo_Mage> DAMN how long does Ubuntu take to install
[04:56] <bob2> Echo_Mage: < 30 minutes
[04:56] <xero> does anybody know about using a gmail account and mounting it like as a partition?
[04:56] <bob2> depending on machine speed, of course
[04:56] <concept10> Echo_Mage, 20-25 mins on decent system
[04:56] <bob2> xero: it's really not worth it
[04:56] <abarbaccia> xero, its broken as of now - and not worth it
[04:56] <bob2> abarbaccia: "sdl gui"?
[04:57] <Echo_Mage> bob2>wow this thing is a P3 500 with 64 megs of RAM how long you think that will take?
[04:57] <abarbaccia> yes, i can't find it bob2 -- dont know the package name
[04:57] <Echo_Mage> concept10: same question
[04:57] <bob2> Echo_Mage: go have some tea
[04:57] <concept10> Echo_Mage, how long has your installation been going?   p3 500 might take a while, low ram also
[04:57] <bob2> abarbaccia: what is a "sdl gui"?
[04:57] <concept10> bob2, :)
[04:57] <Echo_Mage> bob2, concept10: may go do that
[04:58] <abarbaccia> something that eboxy is requiring to compile
[04:58] <xero> bob2: not worth it?! how do you figure?! a remote place to backup my files would be quite nice
[04:58] <Madpilot> Echo_Mage: took about 20-30 min on my 2.0Ghz 1Gb RAM machine - will take a fair bit longer on yours! :)
[04:58] <bob2> abarbaccia: what exactly does it say it needs?
[04:58] <Echo_Mage> bob2, concept10:  how much HDD space does Ubuntu take up on a default install?
[04:58] <bob2> Echo_Mage: 1.8gb
[04:58] <abarbaccia> SDL_gui bob2
[04:59] <concept10> Okay, I was unsuccesful trying to get my older sister to run Ubuntu on her Powerbook G4, shes a mac freak, maybe I can convert my younger sister?
[04:59] <Echo_Mage> bob2: means I'm gonna be cramped for space, HD on that system is only 4.3 GB
[04:59] <abarbaccia> bob2, configure: error: *** SDL_gui library not found!
[04:59] <bob2> Echo_Mage: well, it goes down to 1.2gb after install
[05:00] <IcemanV9> concept10: show her what Ubuntu can do for her! :)
[05:00] <bob2> abarbaccia: hm, interesting
[05:00] <concept10> Echo_Mage, time to upgrade that puppy
[05:00] <abarbaccia> bob2, i know, i can't find any packages that provide it - even in sarge!
[05:00] <Echo_Mage> concept10: My grandmother is on the verge of going to Nux as well, My grandpa is hard headed, don't trust anything he's never heard of
[05:00] <synd> concept10: i say leave os x on macs.. ubuntu for everything else : )
[05:01] <inc595> anyone know the settings to autoload dvd in removable drives and media?
[05:01] <bob2> concept10: ubuntu on a powerbook g4 will suck in a couple of ways
[05:01] <xero> yeah osx is awesome no need to run linux on it i think
[05:01] <inc595> i used to have them but I had to reinstall and lost 'em
[05:01] <bob2> concept10: no wireless, and no sleep (at least on nvidia-based machines)
[05:01] <Echo_Mage> They have PPC support for Ubuntu?
[05:01] <concept10> IcemanV9, I cant get my older sister to switch OS X is very good, but I gave her a live CD and she was saying what would I need this for?   look
[05:02] <bob2> abarbaccia: that's bizarre
[05:02] <IcemanV9> concept10: ha. that WOULD be amusing! :))
[05:02] <Echo_Mage> LOL I love it when people freak over a Live CD
[05:02] <abarbaccia> bob2, indeed, im gonna try to find it and maybe compile it if all else fails
[05:02] <bob2> abarbaccia: it appears to be dead, tho
[05:03] <concept10> Echo_Mage, older people are like that.  I cant get my mom to touch a computer
[05:03] <bob2> abarbaccia: http://www.newimage.com/~rhk/SDL_gui/
[05:03] <sutabi> it says to update apt and I get this error while updateing:
[05:03] <sutabi> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[05:03] <IcemanV9> concept10: my father-in-law would not EVEN touch a computer *sheesh*
[05:03] <Echo_Mage> concept10: I went to nux because fo WIN XP headaches and security issues
[05:03] <bob2> sutabi: you need to paste the whole error to #flood
[05:03] <IcemanV9> concept10: he thinks it's evil thing
[05:03] <Fr0Gs> were can i download ATI Drivers for a Radeon 9600XT 256mb
[05:04] <bob2> abarbaccia: what's "eboxy"?
[05:04] <Fr0Gs> were can i download ATI Drivers for a Radeon 9600XT 256mb
[05:04] <Luakagon> thank you for spending your time and minds on the problems of strangers
[05:04] <JohnnyQuest> my dad(59) uses a computer more than me
[05:04] <Fr0Gs> message me
[05:04] <Fr0Gs> or just tell me
[05:04] <bob2> Fr0Gs: er, ubuntu installs them by default
[05:04] <Fr0Gs> yes but there slow
[05:04] <bob2> "they're"
[05:04] <abarbaccia> bob2, this is all for my ubuntu-mythtv setup - its something used in a plugin someone wrote to burn TV shows to DVDs through a nice GUI
[05:04] <abarbaccia> bob2, so you dont have to author and do all that crap everytime through a shell
[05:05] <Echo_Mage> My Nvidia Card is monster fast on Mepis, got the newest driver for it straight out of the box
[05:05] <concept10> See that is unfortunate.  I promise to get my mom on the internet while she still has some good years.  She just doesnt understand the potential.  She thinks the internet is the same as BBSes from back in the day when I used to get in some real trouble.
[05:05] <sutabi> bob2, that was the error or you want the warnings too?
[05:05] <bob2> Fr0Gs: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:05] <bob2> sutabi: the whole output of apt
[05:05] <Echo_Mage> concept10: my former step dad thought the same way
[05:06] <sutabi> bob2, http://rafb.net/paste/results/2q3TsH89.html
[05:06] <bob2> bah
[05:07] <sutabi> ?
[05:07] <inc595> any have xine autoloading a dvd?
[05:07] <seth_k> anyone want to try for a definitive answer on whether k7 or 686 kernel is better for an Athlon XP?
[05:07] <XNUKET> Hello All, Has anyone used Ubuntu on a MAC Powerbook G4
[05:07] <abarbaccia> bob2, i found a bunch of rpm packages i think i can alien
[05:07] <bob2> sutabi: you're not using breezy, are you?
[05:07] <scott-> Hello All, Anyone run into this Postfix mail error?  mail for domainxxx.com loops back to myself
[05:07] <bob2> xero: lots of people have
[05:07] <vinux> brb all
[05:07] <don-o_> anyone know why dbus_g_bus_get is not in /usr/lib/libdbus-1.a on
[05:07] <don-o_>                 ubuntu hoary?
[05:07] <sutabi> bob2, no idea ^_-
[05:07] <concept10> Echo_Mage, anyway, get some extra dollars and find some cheap ram and a bigger HD for that system.  it can probably be had for less than $50 if you look around
[05:07] <bob2> scott-: purge and reinstall it, and use the config tool to generate your config
[05:07] <xero> bob2: haha so i see with XNUKET
[05:07] <scott-> Ubuntu runs great on my mac mini..
[05:08] <XNUKET> The 504 ver
[05:08] <bob2> sutabi: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:08] <Redstar> Has anyone been able to get Kino to work with Ubuntu?!?
[05:08] <xero> XNUKET: wireless and/or sleep problems?
[05:08] <bob2> seth_k: k7
[05:08] <lamont> scott-: it means that MX RR (or transport map entries...) point to you, but mydestination doesn't think it's local
[05:08] <man_exec> hey all
[05:08] <lamont> scott-: alternatively, there are two machines with the same value of 'myhostname'
[05:08] <concept10> Echo_Mage, I would send you one if I had some extra money, I have about 10-12 extra harddrives laying around
[05:08] <Echo_Mage> concept10: will do very shortly
[05:09] <xero> Redstar: what is Kino?
[05:09] <sutabi> bob2, http://rafb.net/paste/results/jkC9Hs59.html
[05:09] <scott-> thanks Lamount and Bob, my setting for my  mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost
[05:09] <xero> Echo_Mage: did i hear free hardwrae?!?!
[05:09] <bob2> sutabi: get rid of the backports lines
[05:10] <bob2> sutabi: and change "us.archive" to "archive"
[05:10] <man_exec> I'm looking for help in adding a module from alan cox's patchset to a hoary install.  can anyone talk me through it or point me to a thorough walk-thru, please?
[05:10] <kalias> Hi! I am in need of some sound/cd help.
[05:10] <IcemanV9> xero: Kino is a digital video editing program
[05:10] <bob2> man_exec: which one?
[05:10] <jalyst> has anyone here worked out how to get FreeNX server running on hoary?
[05:10] <Redstar> that won't work.. it's loads and exists right away
[05:10] <robitaille> jalyst,  http://ubuntu.ca/wiki/index.php/InstallingFreeNX    (but I haven't tried it myself)
[05:10] <scott-> lamont: that is correct my DNS has the FQDN and this machine is behind a Firewall with the same name.  I take it I should just change it.
[05:10] <XNUKET> I amuding wireless works, but on my Powerbook G4 no wireless. Any suggestionsl D600 and everything incl running Ubuntu Live on my Del
[05:10] <man_exec> bob2: thanks...I"ve got a board with the ITE8212 controller onboard
[05:11] <xero> IcemanV9: is it comparable to CoolEditPro in windows?
[05:11] <jalyst> yeah tried that, no go :-(
[05:11] <sutabi> bob2, back ports?
[05:11] <kalias> nickrud:  Hey man :)
[05:11] <bob2> sutabi: oh man
[05:11] <bob2> sutabi: you copied that from ubuntuguide, didn't you
[05:11] <nickrud> hi, kalias, how's life :)
[05:11] <jalyst> i just thought someone may be lurking in forums an come accross somethin more up-to-date
[05:11] <IcemanV9> xero: dunno. never use it, but knew what it is. :) heard you can compare it to Final Cut Pro on Mac
[05:11] <bob2> without understanding what it is
[05:12] <sutabi> bob2, =_= yes
[05:12] <kalias> nickrud:  Life is good :) You?
[05:12] <bob2> someone fix the bloody thing
[05:12] <xero> xero: on  video stuff... i for whtaever was thinking audio im sorry
[05:12] <sutabi> bob2, its aa last of l;ink that tell me where to download applications
[05:12] <nickrud> changing, moving to texas tomorrow
[05:12] <bob2> or people stop blidnly following things
[05:12] <bob2> sutabi: no, it's broken
[05:12] <xero> haha ops i sent that to myself w00t that was slick
[05:12] <bob2> sutabi: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:12] <jalyst> so no-one else here has FreeNX server running on Hoary?!!?
[05:13] <bob2> jalyst: or they're waiting for you to get to your question
[05:13] <sutabi> bob2, okay..
[05:13] <bob2> actually, nevermind
[05:13] <jalyst> question is can someone point me to some doco that actually works
[05:13] <bob2> use the one you used to have
[05:13] <bob2> which you backed up
[05:13] <bob2> and don't believe anything in ubuntuguide yo udon't understand
[05:13] <Redstar> iceman: if it would actually work! =(
[05:14] <sutabi> bob2, that I backed up... Uhh I backed up one? lol
[05:14] <bob2> oh well
[05:14] <IcemanV9> <- just curious - what's happened to archive.ubuntu.com? hardware failure? or someone forgot to pay the bill??
[05:14] <nickrud> might have a chance to meat nalioth som time
[05:14] <bob2> IcemanV9: nothing is wrong with it
[05:14] <bob2> IcemanV9: us.archive is screwed
[05:14] <seth_k> bob2, can you point me to a source for that? not that I don't believe you, but it seems half the things I find say k7, half say 686
[05:15] <jalyst> bob2: have you got FreeNX server going, if so can you point me to some doco or outline some brief steps?
[05:15] <bob2> seth_k: no, sorry
[05:15] <bob2> jalyst: no
[05:15] <bob2> seth_k: an athlon is a k7, tho
[05:15] <seth_k> bob2, ok ^_^
[05:15] <inc595> anyone got xine playing dvd when inserted?
[05:16] <Madpilot> 686 = P4, doesn't it?
[05:16] <thechitowncubs> Sometimes my screen just freezes but my mouse moves around, but nothing else happens, I can't do CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE or anything, and eventually i am forced to restart the computer by forcing the power button, I have read reports about the nvidia-glx package causing it, is there anyway to find out what is happening so that I can see if that is causing it or if it is something else?
[05:16] <xero> does anybody have dualmonitors running w/ fglrx drivers ?
[05:16] <jalyst> how does one go about setting-up there own ubuntu sub-channel
[05:16] <xero> or any ati drivers for htat matter!
[05:17] <concept10> neat photo... airplane entertainment system booting linux airplane entertainment system system booting linux: http://www.flickr.com/photos/colinj/17308794/in/set-442295/
[05:17] <Echo_Mage> Sorry guys I'm away, playing gnometris on other machine
[05:17] <IcemanV9> Madpilot: yep. i have kernel-686 running on P4
[05:17] <Rytets> hey
[05:17] <Ninwa> iPodder seems to have a lot of dependencies that I can't meet. It needs 2.3 and needs for 2.4 to be uninstalled... That sucks.
[05:17] <jalyst> want to get something like Ubuntu-FreeNX going, this general ubuntu help has got whiskers on it
[05:18] <Madpilot> IcemanV9: thought so. AMD machines are all I've ever owned...
[05:18] <lamont> scott-: yes.  no two machines should ever have the same value for myhostname (esp if one is going to talk to the other...) - since that's the check that tells the mailer that it's talking to itself....
[05:19] <scott-> lamount: so if I have this mailserver behind my firewall I should just change the host name and all should be good to go?
[05:20] <jalyst> l
[05:20] <xero> hey does anybody here know if ubuntu needs some more mirrors or something?
[05:21] <inc595> evil xine
[05:21] <vinux> hey all what's a good firewall to get?
[05:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> xero, probably no one here does
[05:21] <filosof> hi all , can somebody tell me please how the php installation (from source) cannot find libxml2 when it's installed ?
[05:22] <xero> vinux: i dont really use one (cringe)  but ive heard firestarter is good
[05:23] <vinux> xero, cool hacking your system now. LOL Just Joking!!! I would probably end up hacking my own system and messing it up. And probably the police would trow me in Jail too
[05:23] <vinux> hmm
[05:23] <xero> hhaa
[05:23] <xero> how would you hack my system?
[05:23] <_kaz> speaking of firewalls... I wonder why there isn't a good APPLICATION firewall for linux yet.
[05:24] <vinux> LOl I have no idea I'm a newbie
[05:24] <resiak> xero: with a 28.8bps modem!!!!!!1111
[05:24] <xero> haha riite
[05:24] <david> hello, my question: where can i get active-x for mozilla?
[05:24] <xero> bring it on
[05:24] <_kaz> ie Zone Alarm/Tiny/Kerio, for linux.
[05:24] <seth_k> david: ahhhhhhhh!
[05:24] <filosof> did somebody tried install PHP5 manualy from source ?
[05:24] <vinux> xero, my system is so easy to hack! I even know the password
[05:25] <IcemanV9> inc595: system > preferences > removable drives and media - if you want to have xine starts instead of totem :)
[05:25] <Madpilot> david: I'm pretty certain you can't. Thank Dog.
[05:25] <sproingie> it's hard.  device drivers in linux can't pop up dialogs
[05:25] <seth_k> david: no such thing at ALL
[05:25] <sproingie> er that was directed to _kaz
[05:25] <sproingie> most of these firewalls hook into the driver interface in windows, which has the layered SPI interface
[05:25] <xero> vinux: really.... horray for u
[05:25] <lorz> has anybody used fetchyahoo?
[05:25] <david> how do i get cedega working them
[05:25] <_kaz> I saw one on sourceforge... forgot what its was called though... tuxsomething or somethingtux
[05:25] <sproingie> the only thing that comes close to that other than STREAMS is netgraph
[05:26] <xero> i can hack anything if i have local access to the mahcine
[05:26] <vinux> xero, hehe
[05:26] <david> xero: <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:26] <xero> haha oh what a wonderful LOCAL ip
[05:26] <IIIEars_> New user question #101 - How do i match a process to the amount of ram it is using :?
[05:26] <xero> :-P
[05:26] <xero> david: i can tell u that u have a linksys router :-P
[05:26] <lorz> has anybody used fetchyahoo?
[05:27] <sproingie> IIIEars_: top
[05:27] <nEEdHelP> hi everyone... someone can tell me how to fix my bootrecord?
[05:27] <Chameleon22> when i look an some sites with firefox, the fonts appear to be to small, but when i look at the same site with IE or Konqueror fonts seem ok, is there way to fix this problem?
[05:27] <IIIEars_> Very nice! - Sproingie you are awesome.
[05:27] <nEEdHelP> I cant boot via windows xp... just by ubuntu
[05:27] <xero> oh wait that was a test question...
[05:27] <sproingie> IIIEars_: for one process, try ps u <pid>
[05:28] <nEEdHelP> grub isnt working
[05:28] <IIIEars_> sproingie - Thank You.
[05:28] <Madpilot> well, that was novel. X just crashed on me...
[05:28] <nEEdHelP> i installed lilo but it just boot ubuntu
[05:28] <_kaz> ah here it is... tuxguardian http://sourceforge.net/projects/tuxguardian/
[05:28] <xero> nEEdHelp: is there an option in grub for your winxp setup and doesnt boot to it or no?
[05:28] <_kaz> http://tuxguardian.sourceforge.net/
[05:29] <quam> xero: if you've used something like partition magic to make the winxp partition hidden, even grub wont add it to the list to load
[05:29] <sproingie> well if you installed lilo, grub ain't gonna work.  run grub-install to take lilo out
[05:29] <quam> needhelp: did you use a partition manager like partition magic?
[05:29] <nEEdHelP> yes
[05:30] <nEEdHelP> the first time i installed ubuntu could choose the boot
[05:30] <quam> you'll need to use another partitioning program and set the windows drive unhidden if you hid it during partition magic partition setup
[05:30] <xero> quam: on really didnt know that.... does it hide it by default when you splice off a new partition?
[05:30] <sproingie> ah, tuxguardian uses LSM, and presumably there's providers for network
[05:30] <R0d0lf0> nEEdHelP go here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WindowsDualBootHowTo/view?searchterm=partimage
[05:30] <FR500> hello
[05:30] <sproingie> modular security providers are nice
[05:30] <quam> xero: if you tell partition magic you want to install another os, it asks you if you're going to do it right away or od it later. if you choose do it right away, it hides the windows partition so when you reboot it goes to the partition of the new os
[05:31] <xero> oh darn hmm
[05:31] <quam> i had to unhide mine with qtpart or whatever it's called and then reinstall grub so it would see it
[05:31] <FR500> one lil question, i changed my gnome splash to reflect my current theme's whiteness, but when i login, i still get that brown behind my whiteish splash, how can i change that color
[05:31] <xero> when i set one up for a friend i just spliced of the right amount
[05:31] <SantasLittleHelp> Hi guys. I'm having some difficulties installing a driver for my wireless card. It's a RT2500. I tried to follow the instruction on the wiki, but failed when I tried to install libqt3-dev. Can anyone guide me through that step? Just recently installed Ubuntu.
[05:31] <nEEdHelP> Let me explain what happened....
[05:31] <xero> and then from there went in w/ the installcd and installed it on that partition
[05:31] <Chameleon22> when i look an some sites with firefox, the fonts appear to be to small, but when i look at the same site with IE or Konqueror fonts seem ok, is there way to fix this problem?
[05:32] <quam> needhelp: did you tell partition you were going to install another os, and that you were going to do it right away? if so, it hid your windows partition
[05:32] <IIIEars_> xero - if in the unlikely (very unlikely) event that things look bad. - check out the dd command, linux fdisk, or possibly qtparted on a live linux CD.
[05:32] <Echo_Mage> Okay I'm confused, why are ther no Icons on the desktop in Ubuntu
[05:32] <FR500> Echo_Mage, it's only a configuration
[05:33] <quam> ears, needhelp is the one with the problem, xero is the one helping him :P
[05:33] <xero> IIIEars_: will those be able to partition off segments of a previous partition?
[05:33] <Echo_Mage> How do you get the Icons on the desktop so I feel a little at home
[05:33] <quam> ears: i think :p
[05:33] <jamesm> does ubuntu have a netinstall cd?
[05:33] <FR500> Echo_Mage, it's at www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:33] <xero> well i am interested mainly in b/c i just did this for a friend
[05:33] <xero> he didnt have an problems though which confuses me
[05:34] <nEEdHelP> When i installed ubuntu first time GRUB used ask me which OS i wanted to boot. but i need format ubuntu partition then i installed lilo... but lilo just start ubuntu... it dosent ask me what OS i want
[05:34] <xero> using partitionmagic in windows to sect of a part of his windows partition. and then from there installed linux on it
[05:34] <IIIEars_> nEEdHelP - if in the unlikely (very unlikely) event that things look bad. - check out the dd command, linux fdisk, or possibly qtparted on a live linux CD.
[05:34] <quam> why would you install grub and lilo :P
[05:34] <jbroome> so it boots twice as fast?
[05:34] <vinux> what's a good antivirs program for ubuntu?
[05:34] <quam> haha jbroome
[05:34] <quam> antivirus, for linux? :P
[05:34] <Octane> someone needs to package the new nvidia drivers
[05:34] <FR500> vinux, there are not many viruses that can attack you
[05:34] <xero> needhelp: why did you use lilo? did grub not work?
[05:35] <nEEdHelP> yes
[05:35] <vinux> FR500, yea I know but I like being safe :)
[05:35] <xero> hmm
[05:35] <FR500> why are the fonts rendered so dirty on my card?
[05:35] <xero> ive never messed w/ lilo so i honestly dont think i can help ya
[05:35] <nEEdHelP> grub was confused because i formated and resized the ubuntu's partition
[05:36] <IIIEars_> vinux - there aren't many viruses out there for linux. virus writers are focused on windows. - Still worried try "clam" anti virus.
[05:36] <R0d0lf0> nEEdHelP bro, i'm telling you the answer about how to fix that is here ---> Just read it : http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WindowsDualBootHowTo/view?searchterm=partimage
[05:36] <quam> i did lilo years ago. i prefer the loaders with graphical setup
[05:36] <nEEdHelP> ok
[05:36] <vinux> IIIEars_, cool thanks
[05:36] <nEEdHelP> i'm going check this out
[05:36] <R0d0lf0> good
[05:37] <SantasLittleHelp> Been trying to install the wireless card driver for about 3hrs now, with no luck. =\
[05:37] <FR500> how can i change the colo behind the splash screen theme
[05:37] <FR500> SantasLittleHelp, what card?
[05:37] <xero> what card?
[05:37] <SantasLittleHelp> RT2500.
[05:38] <IIIEars_> xero - Thanks - I just "kill"ed a RAM hog. :)
[05:38] <FR500> what brand is that?
[05:38] <nEEdHelP> just one more question....
[05:38] <SantasLittleHelp> RalinkTech.
[05:38] <SantasLittleHelp> Yes, I followed the instructions listed on the website, but I had one small problem.
[05:38] <xero> IIIEars_ : sudo killall 'appname'
[05:39] <IIIEars_> xero - the ps "u" switch was a sniper rifle.
[05:39] <SantasLittleHelp> "sudo apt-get install qt3-dev qt3-dev-tools"...failed. I tried libqt3-dev, failed as well.
[05:39] <nEEdHelP> I have a DOSboot diskette... should i boot from it and use the /fixmbr command to clean GRUB?
[05:39] <FR500> SantasLittleHelp, do u use ndiswrapper?
[05:39] <madsen> Oi!
[05:39] <IIIEars_> nEEdHelP - sure that should work.
[05:39] <madsen> I've got a little problem with Xorg and drop-shadows...
[05:40] <FR500> .
[05:40] <SantasLittleHelp> I tried to use ndiswrapper.
[05:40] <xero> FR500 i heard ndiswrapper blows bigtime but if its the only thing that works then whatever
[05:40] <SantasLittleHelp> Failed.
[05:40] <SantasLittleHelp> Appears I need dhcpcd.
[05:40] <xero> dhclient
[05:40] <xero> dhcpcd --> dhclient
[05:40] <SantasLittleHelp> Because..it's not my own network that I'm connecting to. my neighbor's unsecured wireless network.
[05:40] <nEEdHelP> thanks everyone... i'm going to try resolve the problem
[05:41] <madsen> I've followed the wiki guide for DropShadows, but no luck. :( xcompmgr keeps telling me the composite extension isn't loaded even though the logfiles for Xorg say it is.
[05:41] <xero> :-P w00t for wireless stealing!!!
[05:41] <SantasLittleHelp> Hit 400gb last month.
[05:41] <FR500> xero, actually ndiswrapper rocks unless you need monitor mode and that stuff
[05:41] <FR500> it's a good piece of sw
[05:41] <xero> hmm
[05:41] <lakin> It's not wireless stealing.   I'll give it a try.
[05:42] <xero> if u need to run dhcpcd then just use the command 'dhclient' its the same thing from what i know
[05:42] <bob2> madsen: (COmposite is kinda nasty and slow and unstable, too)
[05:42] <madsen> bob2: Hmm, ok...
[05:43] <madsen> bob2: Yeah, I know, but I'd still like to try it out. (Coming from plain Debian there's a lot of stuff in Ubuntu I've never tried.)
[05:43] <Matthew_W> My laptop refuses to properly detect my battery with ACPI.  Gbattstat returns unknown battery klaptop returns no battery, dmesg returns AE_NOT_FOUND 100,000 times, and ACPI -V returns Thermal data, and AC data, but no battery data, help.
[05:43] <bob2> madsen: yeah, fair enough
[05:43] <xero> anybody wanna trade a nvidia 5900 for a ati9700??
[05:43] <bob2> Matthew_W: do you have the battery module loaded?
[05:44] <FR500> Why are the fonts at gnome terminal rendered like c*ap
[05:44] <Matthew_W> bob2:  Where would I find that.. synaptic?  Because the battery monitor prog is indeed running, but... not detecting my battery
[05:44] <WebMaven> I got an MD5 error in synaptic.
[05:44] <SantasLittleHelp> Currently making a transition to Linux. I was a hardcore Windows fanboy. -.-
[05:44] <bob2> Matthew_W: "lsmod | grep battery", in a terminal...what does it print out (if anything)?
[05:44] <FR500> SantasLittleHelp, did it work?
[05:44] <WebMaven> who do I talk to?
[05:44] <Matthew_W> santas: 16 years running windoze.
[05:45] <madsen> Uh, one more thing... After I did the upgrade from Warty to Hoary I get kernel panic when booting kernel 2.6.10... Do I need to pass it some devfs=mount in grub or something?
[05:45] <SantasLittleHelp> Been 6 or 7 years for me. I need to grab the driver. =\
[05:45] <bob2> WebMaven: edit the repository list so you're not using us.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:45] <madsen> (I upgraded from Warty to Hoary because my hoary cds haven't arrived yet.)
[05:45] <bob2> madsen: with a default kernel?
[05:45] <madsen> bob2: Yup
[05:45] <Matthew_W> bob2:    battery                     10244  0
[05:45] <bob2> madsen: (upgrading is fine and encouraged....when you stick the hoary cd into a warty system, it will offer to upgrade off the cd, no less)
[05:45] <SnowWrite> I just built a server with ubuntu.. squid.. awstats.. webmin.. zope and plone..
[05:46] <bob2> madsen: what does "dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n1" print out?
[05:46] <bob2> SnowWrite: are you a zope programmer, or are you just using plone?
[05:46] <FR500> SnowWrite, u need Hula for mail!
[05:46] <SnowWrite> i'm having problems with webmin "seeing" my server configs.. have to add stuff manually
[05:46] <Madpilot> later, all.
[05:46] <madsen> bob2: Well, fine. Then I just have to wait for the Hoary cds to arrive. :-p ;)
[05:46] <SnowWrite> i'm a plone developer..
[05:46] <bob2> SnowWrite: oh, cool
[05:46] <IIIEars_> nEEdHelp - nah i bet you set a good password ;) - don't worry the people here are friendly and helpful. (only 6 weeks at this myself)
[05:46] <SnowWrite> not a strong programmer though.. fair warning.. been working with Plone for 3 years.. just build a server for a local school district
[05:47] <Matthew_W> bob2:  any ideas based on that?
[05:47] <WebMaven> bob2, what should it use?
[05:47] <madsen> bob2: 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n1' says:
[05:47] <madsen> ii  libc6          2.3.2.ds1-20ub GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone
[05:47] <bob2> WebMaven: just archive.ubnutu.com (us. is screwed atm)
[05:47] <bob2> madsen: hm, ok
[05:47] <WebMaven> OK.
[05:47] <IIIEars_> nEEdHelp - okay give me a sec. i'll get the link and type the command here.
[05:47] <bob2> Matthew_W: it sounds like your hardware just isn't supported yet (at a guess; I'm no expert)
[05:48] <bob2> Matthew_W: if you can file a bug on the "linux" product (http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com), that would be great
[05:48] <FR500> how can i change the default brown color that appears on the background after loggining into gdm to something i like?
[05:48] <xero> FR500: let me know once u figure that out
[05:48] <Matthew_W> bob2:  some people have apparently had this problem with every other distro of linux imaginable (I've had it with mandrake, mandriva, redhat, suse, kubuntu, and ubuntu...)
[05:48] <bob2> FR500: right click on the background
[05:48] <FR500> bob2, wont work
[05:48] <madsen> FR500: What happens?
[05:48] <bob2> FR500: how do you mean?
[05:49] <caonex> i would like to install a kernel image from ubuntu repositories but i do not want to do it from apt-get since it has some conflicts and it is trying to download different images, could i just download from ubuntu the package and install it with dpkg without a problem?
[05:49] <bob2> Matthew_W: yeah, some hardware just isn't supported yet
[05:49] <FR500> bob2, it's apllied a bit later
[05:49] <FR500> so the default brown is shown behind my white splash
[05:49] <bob2> Matthew_W: the problem seems to be most manufacturers don't comply with the ACPI spec very strictly, just enough so windows works.  so linux needs to emulate how windows works, in addition to the spec
[05:49] <bob2> or so I gather
[05:49] <bob2> Matthew_W: but if you can file a bug, the acpi wizards can probably get it to work
[05:50] <bob2> FR500: oh, you mean during login?
[05:50] <FR500> my yes
[05:50] <FR500> i think i got it
[05:50] <FR500> there is a "no wallpaper" wallpaper that might be it
[05:50] <Matthew_W> bob2:  just a nuisance to have my laptop suddenly die.  There's something about a DSDT?   Do you know anything about this?
[05:51] <Matthew_W> bob2:  on an off topic question, how does one make a program run on startup?
[05:51] <caonex> where can i download the kernel-images*.deb from ubuntu?
[05:51] <FR500> Matthew_W, in gnome?
[05:51] <Matthew_W> fr5: yeah
[05:51] <bob2> Matthew_W: DSDT is code stored on the machine that explains to the kernel how the hardware fits together, I think
[05:51] <Matthew_W> FR500: ** yeah
[05:52] <bob2> Matthew_W: someimtes it's wrong, so people have made patched ones which sometimes help
[05:52] <bob2> Matthew_W: at login or boot?
[05:52] <FR500> Matthew_W, in System-administration-gnome-session
[05:52] <Matthew_W> bob2:  Yeah, i recompiled my kernel in mandrake to include a modified DSDT -- but.. I don't know it just seemed to slow down my entire system.
[05:53] <bob2> oh, wow
[05:53] <caonex> where can i download ubuntu packages from?
[05:53] <FR500> brb
[05:53] <bob2> Matthew_W: oh, when you do file that bug, include the model number and stuff, and set it to CC<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:53] <bob2> caonex: you don't want kernel-image-*
[05:54] <madsen> bob2: It worked with devfs=mount hehe. :)
[05:54] <madsen> Woh! Ubuntu Hoary boots _really_ fast compared to e.g. Debian!
[05:54] <bob2> madsen: er, that's weird, ubuntu doesn't use devfs
[05:54] <xero> so yeah wait how do u make things start when gnome starts?
[05:54] <xero> i did it once but i forgot
[05:54] <FR500> bob2, any clues, it didnt work
[05:54] <madsen> bob2: Hmm... Odd... Might have been something else then...
[05:55] <caonex> bob2, what do i want?
[05:55] <bob2> xero: system -> preferences -> session
[05:55] <madsen> bob2: I'll try next time without devfs=mount then. ;)
[05:55] <caonex> bob2, i need one like the ubuntu installs
[05:55] <bob2> caonex: what are you trying to do?
[05:55] <bob2> madsen: heh
[05:55] <bob2> caonex: hrm? it's installed by default.
[05:55] <xero> bob2: awesome ok thanks
[05:55] <caonex> bob2, install a kernel like the one that comes with ubuntu preinstalled using dpkg
[05:55] <agil> halo
[05:55] <caonex> bob2, there is a bug that messed mine up
[05:55] <FR500> bob2, do you think it's a "root" option
[05:55] <knapjack> Anyone know of a good channel for general wireless support?
[05:55] <IIIEars_> nEEdHelp - okay jeez i lost my note and these are just plain confusing. - sorry. - linux or dos fdisk is fine. - was trying to be helpful :/  http://aplawrence.com/Bofcusm/481.html http://www.balug.org/ml/balug-talk/msg01780.html
[05:56] <agil> halo
[05:56] <caonex> bob2, i do not have the image nor the initrd in this computer
[05:56] <bob2> caonex: sudo apt-get install linux-2.6
[05:56] <bob2> FR500: I don't know what you're doing
[05:56] <bob2> FR500: if you're trying to modify the login images, you do need to modify some packaged files, afaik
[05:56] <xero> bob2: how about durring startup? b/c for whatever reason i dont think that ssh starts when i boot my desktop :-.
[05:56] <bob2> knapjack: here, if you're using ubuntu
[05:56] <bob2> xero: install openssh-server
[05:56] <FR500> bob2, when you loggin, there is the splash screen, on it's back there is a browncolor
[05:57] <FR500> i changed the splash image
[05:57] <duken> how to mirroring archive ubuntu ?
[05:57] <caonex> bob2, and apt-get did not do it becuase it was doing some conflicts......bob, i do not have internet in that one
[05:57] <FR500> but the brown color still remains the same
[05:57] <duken> step by step
[05:57] <agil> sex
[05:57] <agil> edan
[05:57] <bob2> caonex: how on earth did you get conflicts?
[05:57] <FR500> bob2, splashes are here /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/
[05:57] <duken> but just arch i386
[05:57] <xero> bob2: oh damn i thought it was done on default
[05:57] <bob2> duken: use debmirrors
[05:57] <nEEdHelP> thanks IIIEars
[05:57] <knapjack> bob2: I am using Ubuntu, but my problem is on OSX :)
[05:57] <madsen> FR500: I think you have to change something in the GDM theme then.
[05:57] <bob2> xero: it is, if you install openssh-server
[05:58] <FR500> madsen, my gdm theme is white :p
[05:58] <black13> how do tell if package has been installed
[05:58] <nEEdHelP> iiiears; i'm studing the info you sent me... thank you
[05:58] <xero> bob2: just did
[05:58] <caonex> bob2, i do not know some people have been getting the same thing, ask nickrud
[05:58] <bob2> black13: look for it in synaptic
[05:58] <nickrud> lol
[05:58] <black13> apt-cache search libexpat
[05:58] <black13> does nothing
[05:58] <madsen> FR500: Hmm... Try checking out the gdm theme and see if there are any brown colors anywhere.
[05:58] <caonex> bob2, it kept telling me that it could not create an initrd, that my grub did not support initrd, and i had the image installed already
[05:58] <duken> bob2 how to use it
[05:58] <black13> bob2, synaptic?
[05:59] <FR500> ok
[05:59] <bob2> caonex: what does "dpkg -l libc6 | awk /^ii/ '{print $3}' print out?
[05:59] <nickrud> hah, I just happened to be listening
[05:59] <bob2> duken: it has a man page...
[05:59] <bob2> black13: the package install queue
[05:59] <bob2> er, too, not queue
[05:59] <Echo_Mage> Well thats neat, even on that old clunker, Ubuntu seems to run well
[05:59] <xero> Echo_Mage: what display manager?
[05:59] <bob2> duken: time debmirror -m -h au.archive.ubuntu.com -p -v --nosource --method=ftp -r /ubuntu/ -d warty,hoary,breezy --section=main,restricted --arch=i386  ./ubuntu/
[06:00] <Echo_Mage> Gnome
[06:00] <caonex> bob2, everytime i did apt-get update and install anything, the error would come again and until yesterday it ruined my images and was not able to boot. For my luck i had compiled a kernel but this one does not let the nic work, even when they have built in support compiled
[06:00] <bob2> duken: that's how I run it
[06:00] <caonex> bob2, one second.
[06:00] <duken> ok thx bob
[06:00] <caonex> bob2, i am doing this by phone, no internet, no nic
[06:00] <Echo_Mage> xero: the default that comes with Ubuntu
[06:00] <jmsl> anyone here happen to hack/build firefox?
[06:00] <Fr0Gs> what version of X.Org or XFREE86 does ubuntu use
[06:01] <WebMaven> bob2, thank you, that fixed it.
[06:01] <bob2> WebMaven: cool
[06:01] <Fr0Gs> what version of X.Org or XFREE86 does ubuntu use
[06:01] <xero> Echo_Mage: so gnome :-) does it like run really slow or somehting?
[06:01] <agil> hello
[06:01] <kafeine> Fr0Gs, warty or hoary?
[06:01] <whiprush> Fr0Gs: 6.8.2
[06:01] <bob2> Fr0Gs: 6.8.2
[06:01] <agil> it agil
[06:01] <IcemanV9> Fr0Gs: 6.8.2 for Xorg
[06:01] <Fr0Gs> ok
[06:01] <Fr0Gs> so there is no xfree86
[06:01] <WebMaven> bob2, what exactly is wrong with us.archive.ubuntu.com, anyway?
[06:01] <agil> i am agil
[06:01] <xero> haha i guess he got the point
[06:01] <Echo_Mage> xero: hard drive access time are slow but other than that it works great
[06:01] <xero> kewl
[06:02] <xero> i remember starting firefox and waiting a while
[06:02] <Fr0Gs> so there is no xfree86 bob2
[06:02] <bob2> WebMaven: I don't know.  it's not just out of date, things are actually corrupt...maybe their disk is failing or something.
[06:02] <IcemanV9> Fr0Gs: there is, but almost no one uses it
[06:02] <Fr0Gs> lol
[06:02] <Fr0Gs> ok
[06:02] <Echo_Mage> xero that machine should be good for the kids when they want to play a game
[06:02] <WebMaven> bob2, how long has this been a problem?
[06:02] <Echo_Mage> gotta download more for it tho
[06:02] <johnnybezak> hey guys i've got a ".img" file that I need to extract or whatever you do with a dot image file how can I open it?
[06:02] <kvidell> It's a cd image?
[06:03] <agil> i am agil
[06:03] <bob2> WebMaven: a few days now.  I take it someone has contact the admins of tha, and the ubuntu.com admins have been contacted, too
[06:03] <Echo_Mage> Gonna need to find a way to hook it up to my network tho, not sure if it will replace Mepis tho
[06:03] <johnnybezak> kvidell: how do i open it>? or do i mount it
[06:03] <agil> hello agil
[06:03] <kvidell> is it a cd image?
[06:03] <madsen> Hmm, this may be a trivial problem... When I try to go find my favourite extensions for Firefox I get redirected to a Firefox 1.0.4 download... Can't install the extensions. :-/
[06:03] <johnnybezak> kvidell: yeah, its got some installation media on it
[06:03] <kvidell> mount -lo image /place/to/mount I think
[06:04] <bob2> johnnybezak: sudo modprobe loop ; sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop ./foo.img /mnt
[06:04] <kafeine> madsen, edit your about:config
[06:04] <Strife> just out of curiosity, why does it seem like ubuntu packages aren't updated very often with hoary?
[06:04] <WebMaven> bob2, OK, good. Is there an ETA for a fix, or should I just keep using archive.ubuntu.com permanently?
[06:04] <madsen> kafeine: How? Or rather, what should I edit?
[06:04] <kafeine> sec
[06:05] <Strife> e.g., gaim is v. 1.1.4, whereas the current release of gaim is v. 1.3.1
[06:05] <bob2> WebMaven: I don't know, sorry
[06:05] <jamesm> does ubuntu have xfce 4.2?
[06:05] <kafeine> madsen, general.useragent.vendorSub
[06:05] <kvidell> bob2: does mount -lo not do the same thing or is your way just more... guarenteed to work?
[06:05] <kafeine> make it 1.0.4
[06:05] <madsen> kafeine: Hehe, clever! :)
[06:05] <WebMaven> bob2, OK. Is there a page on the ubuntu.org site with a notice?
[06:05] <caonex> bob2, it says: 2.3.2.dsl-20ub
[06:05] <kafeine> we be geeks here, after all
[06:05] <johnnybezak> bob2: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0
[06:05] <bob2> WebMaven: not that I know of
[06:05] <caonex> bob2, sorry took so long but by phone with my dad....
[06:06] <filosof> can somebody tell me please where zlib is placed in Ubuntu ?
[06:06] <bob2> kvidell: I didn't know mount had a -lo option
[06:06] <kvidell> johnnybezak: did my method fail as well?
[06:06] <bob2> filosof: zlib0g
[06:06] <WebMaven> bob2, OK, I'll just check back here in the channel in a few days, then.
[06:06] <caonex> bob2, is that what you were looking for?
[06:06] <bob2> filosof: what are yo utrying to compile?
[06:06] <bob2> caonex: yes
[06:06] <WebMaven> bob2, thanks again.
[06:06] <bob2> caonex: I don't know what the problem could be, sorry
[06:06] <bob2> WebMaven: np
[06:06] <agil> hello
[06:06] <kvidell> I thought it did.. it might be --loop that I'm thinking of
[06:06] <agil> hello
[06:06] <caonex> bob2, so where can i download the .deb for the image
[06:06] <caonex> ?
[06:06] <bob2> johnnybezak: what does "file foo.img" say?
[06:06] <filosof>  bob2  PHP , and it ask about zlib directory
[06:06] <kvidell> It's been awhile since I've had to do that kind of mounting.
[06:06] <agil> iam agil
[06:06] <kvidell> I only do it to check initrd images.
[06:07] <bob2> filosof: you know php is in ubuntu, right
[06:07] <bob2> caonex: packages.ubuntu.com/linux-image-2.6.10-5-386
[06:07] <agil> do you have cheat ps
[06:07] <filosof>  bob2  yes i know , but i want to compile it from source with my own options
[06:07] <IcemanV9> jamesm: xfce <IP_ADDRESS>-2ubuntu2 0
[06:07] <bob2> filosof: why?
[06:07] <holycow> hey guys, i get a high pitched sound from my speakers whenever alsa starts, when i stop alsa it goes away
[06:07] <johnnybezak> bob2: boot.img x86 boot sector
[06:07] <bob2> filosof: which module isn't in ubuntu?
[06:07] <thoreauputic> hmm.. hope someone has some ideas: my latest kernel update is unbootable and I've had to fall back to a warty kernel..
[06:07] <holycow> any idea how to debug such a thing?
[06:07] <IIIEars_> bob2 - amazing. - guru status. - nice
[06:07] <bob2> johnnybezak: so, it's not a cd image
[06:07] <kalias> nickrud: I am back.
[06:07] <jamesm> thanks IcemanV9
[06:07] <bob2> johnnybezak: what is it and what are you trying to do with it?
[06:07] <levander`> How do I find out what the last four packages updated on my machine were? I want to verify they installed correctly.
[06:08] <bob2> levander`: how did you update them?
[06:08] <thoreauputic> I get a hang at "starting enterprise volume management"
[06:08] <caonex> bob2, could you at least tell me where to get the package file, since i do not have internet and need to take it to the computer?
[06:08] <kafeine> levander`, you should have some logs of it
[06:08] <thoreauputic> and the kernal won't go any further
[06:08] <bob2> caonex: er, I did
[06:08] <filosof>  bob2  just want to compile it in my own way :-) anyway where the zlib directory is placed in Ubuntu ?
[06:08] <levander`> bob2: sudo apt-get upgrade ; sudo apt-get update
[06:08] <caonex> bob2, oh i see sorry
[06:09] <bob2> thoreauputic: does taking that out of the boot sequence help? (sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S*evms)
[06:09] <levander`> kafeine: where are these logs?
[06:09] <kalias> How do you tell if your sound card is properly configured?
[06:09] <bob2> levander`: then it's not logged anywhere, sorry
[06:09] <johnnybezak> bob2: i need it for doing a debian usb install, its got a kernel and some other stuff on there
[06:09] <bob2> kalias: can you play music?
[06:09] <bob2> johnnybezak: so, dump it on a usb disk
[06:09] <bob2> levander`: aptitude does log it, yet another reason to use it :P
[06:09] <bob2> IIIEars_: hm?
[06:09] <levander`> bob2: where does it get logged if you use the update notifier thingy ubuntu put in there with hoary
[06:09] <kalias> no I can't seem to play anything.  I tried the solution in the unoffical guide and that didn't work either.
[06:09] <IIIEars_> NICE WORK!! :)
[06:09] <bob2> levander`: I don't think that logs it, either
[06:09] <thoreauputic> bob2: I'll try that - so far I've chrooted in and installed <IP_ADDRESS>-4 9which doesn't fully work but at least boots)
[06:10] <levander`> is update notifier the same as aptitude?
[06:10] <caonex> bob2, if it tells me to configure initrd because it cannot create image, what should i do? this is the problem i have been getting for a week now.
[06:10] <bob2> thoreauputic: ah, ok
[06:10] <bob2> levander`: no
[06:10] <bob2> caonex: I don't know
[06:10] <bob2> caonex: I can't imagine how you could get that without doin gmajorly silly things
[06:10] <thoreauputic> bob2: thanks for theidea - I'm going to try it now :)
[06:10] <bob2> (whicI assume you haven't done, or you'd have mentioned it)
[06:10] <levander`> is there a way to check what the last twenty packages updated by ubuntu in their repositories were?
[06:10] <johnnybezak> bob2: just put her on there?
[06:11] <bob2> levander`: yes, http://lists.ubuntu.com/, the changes lists
[06:11] <kalias> bob2: I installed xmms and alsa with no success.
[06:11] <bob2> johnnybezak: dd if=/foo.img of=/dev/sdX
[06:11] <levander`> caonex: gimme a few seconds, i gotta link to mkinitrd instructions
[06:11] <bob2> johnnybezak: make sure you get sdX correct, or you will toast a disk
[06:11] <bob2> kalias: ignore that
[06:11] <bob2> kalias: what does "fuser -v /dev/snd/*" print?
[06:11] <levander`> caonex: take a few, it's in my /etc versioning repository
[06:11] <johnnybezak> bob2: what
[06:11] <bob2> kalias: (in #flood)
[06:11] <bob2> johnnybezak: ?
[06:11] <caonex> bob2, i did not do anything....just install some other programs, but never touched kernel
[06:11] <johnnybezak> bob2: what is that dd command all about
[06:11] <bob2> johnnybezak: I'm pretty sure the debian install guide explains how to do this
[06:12] <Matthew_W> bob2:  how long does bug reporting normally take
[06:12] <bob2> caonex: what programs? from where?
[06:12] <johnnybezak> bob2: :P
[06:12] <Matthew_W> bob2:  I posted it, I mean the reply
[06:12] <bob2> Matthew_W: to report? < 2 minutes.
[06:12] <bob2> Matthew_W: depends
[06:12] <caonex> bob2, universe and multiuniverse, amsn and i think that was it
[06:12] <kalias> bob2:/dev/snd/*: No such file or directory
[06:12] <bob2> filosof: sudo apt-get build-dep php
[06:12] <bob2> filosof: bear in mind, this is highly silly; php in ubuntu has *every* module (bar like 3) enabled already
[06:13] <bob2> filosof: plus, if you compile it yourself, you need to keep track of security updates
[06:13] <caonex> bob2, nothing bad i guess and i even commented everything out after the error and just started working with the ubuntu supported repositories, but still go the error.
[06:13] <flodine> anyone on 64 bit ubuntu
[06:13] <bob2> caonex: very odd
[06:13] <bob2> kalias: well, that would be the start of your problems ;)
[06:13] <bob2> kalias: what sound card do you have?
[06:13] <caonex> bob2, i just know i am not the first, because nickrud told someone had come to the channel with the same problem.
[06:13] <bob2> johnnybezak: dd is the tool used to dum pthe install image onto the disk
[06:13] <kalias> bob2: I will have to crack the box open and take a look.
[06:13] <johnnybezak> bob2: can't i just copy it
[06:13] <bob2> caonex: most of the other people with initrd problems did highly silly things like use the backports libc6, or partially upgrading to breezy
[06:14] <bob2> kalias: "lspci | grep Multi" is enough
[06:14] <bob2> johnnybezak: no
[06:14] <caonex> bob2, i do not know. It is just messing me up because for some reason with the one i compiled the nics do not work so i cannot do anything to it and have to tell my dad over the phone who does not know anything about linux. Imagine.
[06:14] <bob2> johnnybezak: your bios is in charge of booting the usb stick...do you think it knows how to read ext2?
[06:14] <levander`> caonex: sorry, it ended up i didn't have to do that mkinitrd because I decided my CD drive failed  and it wasn't software, didn't save that link anywhere
[06:14] <caonex> levander`, its ok
[06:15] <kalias> bob2: blank it gave me nothing.
[06:15] <johnnybezak> bob2: hehe sure... ok how do i find out what X is in /dev/sdaX the disk just automounted
[06:15] <bob2> kalias: ouch
[06:15] <JohnnyQuest> can anyone make a suggestion for a fix for this error?
[06:15] <JohnnyQuest> mythtv-setup: error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.18.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:15] <bob2> johnnybezak: the output of "mount"
[06:15] <kalias> bob2: I take it that is not good.
[06:15] <johnnybezak> bob2: roger that
[06:15] <bob2> kalias: well, it means you don't have a pci sound card
[06:15] <FR500> wow gdesklet is very heavy
[06:15] <bob2> JohnnyQuest: it means that mythtv wasn't installed properly
[06:15] <kalias> bob2: will linux support that?
[06:16] <bob2> kalias: yes
[06:16] <kalias> bob2: I imagine is must be an isa card.
[06:16] <Matthew_W> How are there that many people in this channel and only this many talking? lol.
[06:16] <filosof>  bob2  i am kind on half way now, and want to finish it the some way i started :-) can you please tell me how to find this zlib in system ?
[06:16] <JohnnyQuest> i know that bob
[06:16] <bob2> kalias: but I don't know the details
[06:16] <JohnnyQuest> im installling it...
[06:16] <JohnnyQuest> and thats the error ig et installing it
[06:16] <bob2> kalias: maybe try searching the wiki or asking on the mailing list
[06:16] <kalias> bob2: oh, bummer. I will take a look.
[06:16] <bob2> filosof: run the command I gave you
[06:17] <levander`> damn, there were too many updates around the time i last updated my system, even though I only updated four, there are a *lot* that were updated around that time
[06:18] <holycow> what package contains the alsa daemon that puts the startup script in init.d dir?
[06:18] <bob2> kalias: yes, not showing up in lspci means it's not a pci card, which means lspci won't detect it ;)
[06:18] <levander`> am guessing they froze stuff for the hoary release, then when the freeze was lifted, everybody checked in all the shit they had developed in the mean time
[06:19] <bob2> levander`: er, you're using breezy?
[06:19] <synd> is there any way to run Mac apps on linux?
[06:19] <levander`> bob2: no, hoary
[06:19] <kalias> bob2: hmm..I see.  I found something on the wiki but there is nothing entered under isa soundcards.  Do we have a wiz on the irc?
[06:19] <bob2> levander`: since release, hoary has only had security udpates added
[06:19] <levander`> bob2: i do real work on my system, don't wanna make a hobby of beta testing
[06:19] <userx1> how to clear the Print Jobs in the command line? Coz If I will cancel it thru Printers window, the Window will just hang-up.
[06:19] <bob2> synd: it's called "mol"
[06:20] <filosof>  bob2  it's give me error "E: Unable to find a source package for php"
[06:20] <synd> bob2: mol? google it, i shall?
[06:20] <levander`> bob2: exactly, and I wanna make sure those security updates installed correctly, my system went down becuase of power outage, and I don't remember how long before the power outage I told it to update
[06:20] <bob2> synd: apt-cache search mac-on-linux
[06:20] <synd> bob2: ah, thx
[06:20] <bob2> levander`: I'd think a hard shutdown is way more likely to cause problems than the security updates
[06:20] <thoreauputic> bob2: /etc/rc2.d/ appears not to have any evms entries.. have I missed something?
[06:20] <holycow> why does removing alsa-base remove gdm?
[06:20] <holycow> i don't get this
[06:21] <levander`> bob2: well, i don't see any problems, have checked syslog, but just want to make sure those security updates went in okay
[06:21] <bob2> filosof: sudo apt-get build-dep php4
[06:21] <bob2> levander`: ok
[06:21] <synd> bob2: nothing came up?
[06:21] <levander`> does dpkg even have a way to verify package installs? I remember rpm had an option to verify every installed package on the system, even though I never bothered to figure out what the output meant
[06:21] <bob2> thoreauputic: hrm, interesting
[06:22] <bob2> synd: are you on ppc?
[06:22] <bob2> levander`: debsumbs
[06:22] <bob2> holycow: maybe because gdm wants to make noises early on
[06:22] <synd> bob2: x86. ppc required, eh?
[06:22] <kalias> exit
[06:22] <holycow> thats retarded, now you cant remove alsa without removing gdm
[06:22] <holycow> *grrr*
[06:23] <bob2> synd: of course, it's like vmware but less hacky
[06:23] <bob2> synd: try qemu, but you'll need to go buy a mac os x dvd
[06:23] <dooglus> levander`: "debsums"
[06:23] <bob2> holycow: why do you want to touch alsa-base, anyway?
[06:23] <userx1> how to clear the Print Jobs in the command line? Coz If I will cancel it thru Printers window, the Window will just hang-up and no cancellation happen.
[06:23] <thoreauputic> bob2: there's an evms.conf in /etc ...
[06:23] <holycow> bob2, it pumps a very very high pitched noise through my speakers, its borked
[06:23] <levander`> anybody know what package debsumbs is in?
[06:23] <holycow> when i stop alsa it goes away
[06:24] <bob2> levander`: debsums
[06:24] <bob2> holycow: ouch
[06:24] <levander`> bob2: got it, thanks
[06:24] <holycow> reinstalling it along with gdm didn't work
[06:24] <holycow> *grrr*
[06:24] <GNULinuxer> what is the alternative for chkconfig [Redhat ]  in Ubuntu? I want some services to run at startup and some not
[06:26] <jamesm> GNULinuxer update-rc.d
[06:26] <userx1> :(
[06:26] <GNULinuxer> jamesm, what is the syntax ? any man page?
[06:27] <jamesm> GNULinuxer, there should be
[06:27] <levander`> bob2: thanks, that seems be working, although a *lot* of output that isn't really errors, and a lot of people are apparently making packages with md5sum files...
[06:27] <jamesm> GNULinuxer, i wrote a wiki on linuxquestions.org about this
[06:28] <GNULinuxer> jamesm, the link?
[06:28] <johnnybezak> bob2: ive got to put an .iso on the usb stick to, do i need to dd that unit as well
[06:28] <synd> bob2: say i had ubuntu ppc and had MOL running on top of that. would that enable the airport express card ?
[06:28] <thoreauputic> bob2: anything I could grep for in dmesg?  dmesg | grep -i evms or enterprise comes up empty as well.. :/
[06:29] <bob2> levander`: yes, it's a shame
[06:29] <thoreauputic> synd: no, unfortunately
[06:29] <bob2> synd: no
[06:29] <synd> :/
[06:30] <levander`> bob2: oh, meant *without* md5sum files
[06:30] <seth_k> would anyone mind testing a gdesklets backport for hoary before I release it onto the unsuspecting public? I just want to make sure there are no showstopper errors
[06:30] <bob2> erk
[06:30] <xero> i have alwayshad gdesklets problems
[06:30] <synd> gkrellm for me
[06:30] <xero> however trhey have to do with actually loading a gdesklet and not hte program itself i think
[06:30] <JohnnyQuest> how do i open a txt file and edit it in the terminal?
[06:31] <synd> xero: ive had the same problems
[06:31] <bob2> JohnnyQuest: sudo nano /blah
[06:31] <xero> nano filename
[06:31] <JohnnyQuest> anything other than nano?
[06:31] <zero-one> hi... how can i get permission to modify the etc folder?
[06:31] <thoreauputic> OK - I guess I'll see if I can find an older Hoary kernel in the archive.... this one seems not to like me
[06:31] <seth_k> nooo JohnnyQuest, usue vi! :P
[06:31] <JohnnyQuest> bi?
[06:31] <xero> vi
[06:31] <JohnnyQuest> vi>?
[06:31] <levander`> thoreauputic: have you tried booting your system by not having whatever /etc/init.d script run that starts enterprise volume management?  I don't know exactly what that service does.
[06:31] <JohnnyQuest> ok
[06:31] <bob2> JohnnyQuest: use nano
[06:31] <JohnnyQuest> sudo vi filename?
[06:31] <JohnnyQuest> ive had problems with nano...
[06:31] <seth_k> hehe. you'll want to use nano if you're not used to console editing
[06:31] <xero> yeah but vi can be quite confusing for someone who has never used it before
[06:31] <JohnnyQuest> i do not have a gui interphase anymore
[06:31] <bob2> thoreauputic: I don't know where it's starting
[06:31] <seth_k> vi forever though
[06:31] <xero> what problems w/ nano?!
[06:32] <levander`> JohnnyQuest: you'll have more problems with vi if couldn't get nano to work
[06:32] <JohnnyQuest> ok..
[06:32] <seth_k> true that
[06:32] <bob2> xero: it's a terribly spartan editor
[06:32] <JohnnyQuest> i edited a file and now i dont have a gui interphase...
[06:32] <thoreauputic> levander`: that was bob2 's suggestion - but it appears not to exist in the /etc/rc2.d dir
[06:32] <levander`> thoreauputic: lemme check here
[06:32] <xero> nano is all done w/out a gui
[06:33] <JohnnyQuest> ya i kno
[06:33] <dooglus> anyone familiar with 'aptitude', as opposed to 'apt-get'?
[06:33] <JohnnyQuest> but, i used it, rebooted, i idnt have a gui anymore
[06:33] <cthulfuego> dooglus: They work pretty much identically.
[06:33] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: I think it's more interesting to know what file you edited.
[06:33] <zero-one> I want to get permission to modify a file at /etc folder... how can i do it?
[06:33] <dooglus> cthulfuego: that's what I thought.  but:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/Kctn7x61.html
[06:33] <seth_k> dooglus: syntax is pretty much identical
[06:33] <xero> JohnnyQuest: you mean u did something to screw up gnome?
[06:33] <madsen> zero-one: sudo <command to run>
[06:33] <david> who here likes windows?
[06:33] <xero> johnnyquest: try restarting gdm?
[06:33] <JohnnyQuest> ya
[06:34] <xero> screw m$
[06:34] <dooglus> cthulfuego: why does aptitude think I should install defendguin?  I've removed it, and don't want it back.
[06:34] <JohnnyQuest> i did something to screw up gnome
[06:34] <JohnnyQuest> it fails when booting
[06:34] <xero> what were your editing?
[06:34] <JohnnyQuest> i edited ld.so.conf
[06:34] <cthulfuego> dooglus: Its depend handling is still a tad buggy afaik.
[06:34] <zero-one> madsen, but how can i do it using gnome, not via a term
[06:34] <levander`> thoreauputic: are you sure the message before freezing wasn't: "Setting up LVM Volume Groups..."
[06:34] <xero> i dont know what that is... hmm
[06:34] <madsen> zero-one: Oh, hang on a sec.
[06:34] <JohnnyQuest> maybe that wasnt the cause..
[06:34] <zero-one> madsen, ok
[06:34] <xero> restart gdm
[06:34] <thoreauputic> levander`: positive
[06:34] <sproingie> how do i find what .deb package a particular file is in?
[06:34] <xero> /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:34] <bob2> sproingie: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[06:35] <dooglus> sproingie: apt-file search
[06:35] <madsen> zero-one: Applications -> System Tools -> Run as a different user...
[06:35] <madsen> zero-one: Then type e.g. 'gedit' and run it as root.
[06:35] <JohnnyQuest> how do i restart gdm?
[06:35] <thoreauputic> levander`: it times out, then I get a message like "lost interrupt on hdc "
[06:35] <josemi> /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:35] <dooglus> JohnnyQuest: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:35] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:35] <josemi> lol
[06:35] <madsen> hehe
[06:35] <josemi> so I win
[06:35] <thoreauputic> and it freezes (well, it hangs)
[06:35] <josemi> xD
[06:36] <xero> JohnnyQuest: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:36] <madsen> josemi: Well, if he's not 'root', then you don't.
[06:36] <JohnnyQuest> i got a fail
[06:36] <dooglus> josemi: no, madsen wins for getting the 'sudo' in there too
[06:36] <levander`> thoreauputic: what is your default run level in /etc/inittab?
[06:36] <JohnnyQuest> starting gnome display manager... fail
[06:36] <xero> were you doing anything w/ your xorg.conf file at all?
[06:36] <josemi> xD ok ok
[06:36] <JohnnyQuest> no
[06:36] <JohnnyQuest> i only touched that one file...
[06:36] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: What does the logfiles say?
[06:36] <thoreauputic> levander`: 2 - quite normal
[06:36] <xero> what dir was that in? and what does it do?
[06:37] <JohnnyQuest> logfiles? i donte ven know how to cehck those...
[06:37] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: sudo tail -100 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:37] <JohnnyQuest> im just gonna reinstall unbuntu and start from scratch
[06:37] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Bad idea, just fix the problem.
[06:37] <josemi> JohnnyQuest: is highly recommended you try to repair the system by yourself
[06:37] <JohnnyQuest> ok
[06:37] <josemi> and take some practice
[06:37] <JohnnyQuest> i installed it 2 days ago..
[06:37] <josemi> by understanfing how it works
[06:38] <josemi> f-d
[06:38] <zero-one> madsen, the system says the password is wrong (but its right
[06:38] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Try: sudo tail -250 /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[06:38] <vinux> Wow It was so easy to set up my printer in gnome!
[06:38] <levander`> thoreauputic: your hdc is hard drive or cd drive?
[06:38] <Santa|xChat> Ah..finally it's working. Thanks everyone who helped me earlier. =)
[06:38] <JohnnyQuest> that didnt wrok
[06:38] <JohnnyQuest> that command
[06:38] <thoreauputic> levander`: CD
[06:38] <thoreauputic> CD-RW
[06:38] <JohnnyQuest> i got it to wokr now..
[06:38] <levander`> thoreauputic: it may have gone bad, i got similar messages when my cd drive went bad not long ago
[06:38] <levander`> thoreauputic: you've ever been inside that computer?
[06:39] <madsen> zero-one: Uh, if it contains any special chars (something not a-z 0-9) then gksu (the program asking you to give the password) might not work. :-/
[06:39] <JohnnyQuest> what am i looking for in these errors?
[06:39] <madsen> zero-one: Try opening a terminal and type 'sudo gedit' instead.
[06:39] <thoreauputic> levander`: hmm - well it boots perfectly in warty (/dev/hda5 )
[06:39] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Something that gives you a hint of what's failing.
[06:39] <Adrian|> Hey I heard something about a special version of Starcraft made for Ubuntu, can anybody give me info on that?
[06:39] <thoreauputic> levander`: it's only Hoary that causes problems
[06:39] <thechitowncubs> hey, how can i install a metacity theme w/out using the theme app? is there a config file somewhere that i can edit
[06:40] <JohnnyQuest> font renderer is all i got...
[06:40] <userx1> Starting DHCP server: dhcpd failed to start - check syslog for diagnostics. - <--- which Directory I can find the "syslog" ?
[06:40] <zero-one> madsen, ok! gedit open!
[06:40] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: You can also just 'sudo tail -250 /var/log/Xorg.0.log' and see if there's anything interesting going on.
[06:40] <userx1> whats the problem why it failed?
[06:40] <madsen> zero-one: :)
[06:40] <thoreauputic> levander`: the only thing I've done in the box is put in an extra stick of ram about 3 weeks ago
[06:40] <levander`> thoreauputic: can you check /var/log/syslog on your warty install to see if there are any errors related to hdc in it?
[06:40] <userx1> Firestarter is currently running....
[06:40] <thechitowncubs> Where is the config file for themes?
[06:40] <thoreauputic> levander`: OK - I'll have to reboot - dual boot here
[06:40] <JohnnyQuest> scan your fram lavender
[06:40] <JohnnyQuest> ram*
[06:41] <JohnnyQuest> ram can go bad
[06:41] <zero-one> madsen,now i create the file and can i save it at /etc folder?
[06:41] <levander`> thoreauputic: what OS are you on now?
[06:41] <thoreauputic> back soon I guess
[06:41] <JohnnyQuest> and it will give you lots of errors
[06:41] <madsen> zero-one: What file did you want to edit?
[06:41] <JohnnyQuest> levender: memtest86
[06:41] <thoreauputic> levander`: hoary with a warty kernel that doesn't work very well ;)
[06:41] <zero-one> lilo.conf
[06:41] <levander`> thoreauputic: can't you just mount the drive that has the warty /var partition on it?
[06:42] <madsen> zero-one: From the gedit with root privileges you can open/save to any file on the system, so be careful what you do.
[06:42] <zero-one> madsen: ok
[06:42] <JohnnyQuest> how do i scroll up in my terminal?
[06:42] <madsen> zero-one: Well, if you're done editing the file, then you should just save it. (Have you saved a working backup of lilo.conf?)
[06:42] <thoreauputic> levander`: doh - sorry I'm not thinking very clearly - yes of course thanks
[06:42] <josemi> avPag + RePag
[06:42] <levander`> thoreauputic: i'm gonna getta smoke, but search for both the terms "atapi" and "hdc"
[06:43] <madsen> zero-one: Remember, for the changes to take effect, run 'sudo lilo' after editing lilo.conf.
[06:43] <thoreauputic> OK
[06:43] <thoreauputic> thanks levander`
[06:43] <madsen> Aw, crap!
[06:43] <thechitowncubs> Anyone :/
[06:43] <madsen> I left my cola in front of my CPU fan and now it's all warm! :(
[06:43] <thechitowncubs> I hate to interrupt :)
[06:43] <seth_k> nobody adventurous tonight eh.
[06:43] <JohnnyQuest> what does this mean? could not init fount path element unix/:6100; removing from list!
[06:43] <JohnnyQuest> there are some typos in there...
[06:44] <seth_k> JohnnyQuest: don't worry about it. no local font server running
[06:44] <JohnnyQuest> ok
[06:44] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: It just means that there's no font server running. It's not a problem really.
[06:44] <seth_k> JohnnyQuest, but it doesn't hurt anything staying in xorg.conf all nice and happy
[06:44] <madsen> Oh. Too slow again.
[06:44] <seth_k> :D
[06:44] <seth_k> can I have a brownie?
[06:44] <JohnnyQuest> how do i scroll up in my terminal?
[06:44] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Shift+PageUp
[06:45] <seth_k> w00t
[06:45] <zero-one> madsen: ok... im doing what you're saying
[06:45] <JohnnyQuest> drmOpenDevice: Open failed
[06:45] <JohnnyQuest> that anything?
[06:45] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: You might want to use 'less' for reading long output in a terminal.   tail -250 /bla/bla/bla | less
[06:45] <levander`> thoreauputic: find anything??
[06:45] <madsen> zero-one: :) I hope it works out well then. :)
[06:45] <david> whats the alt-tab equivalant in linux?
[06:46] <seth_k> david: alt-tab still...
[06:46] <thoreauputic> levander`: several lines for atapi
[06:46] <david> hah ur right thanks
[06:46] <JohnnyQuest> im not finding a thing...
[06:46] <thoreauputic> levander`: hang on - grepping for hdc
[06:46] <ubu> remember that if you use less, you can use the '/' to search...
[06:46] <levander`> thoreauputic: are they errors?
[06:46] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: No errors at all? (Marked with "(EE)".)
[06:47] <thoreauputic> levander`: the atapi ones look OK to me...
[06:47] <JohnnyQuest> nothing marked with EE
[06:47] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Hmm... Perhaps Xorg isn't the thing failing then... Perhaps GDM is... (?)
[06:47] <levander`> thoreauputic: i'd look at the lines before and after where the term atapi comes up, not just with grep
[06:47] <JohnnyQuest> it said gnome was failing while booting...
[06:48] <dennis> hello
[06:48] <thoreauputic> levander`: right - i'm seeing "lost interrupt quite a bit here
[06:48] <thoreauputic> with "hdc"
[06:48] <dennis> ANyone know how to handle file names that are longer than 8 characters and or have spaces in them?
[06:48] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Try checking out the logfile /var/log/gdm/:0.log
[06:48] <seth_k> dennis: tab completion is your friend
[06:48] <levander`> thoreauputic: could be bad cd drive thoreauputic
[06:48] <dennis> ?
[06:48] <thoreauputic> levander`: like Jun 13 11:32:00 localhost kernel: hdc: lost interrupt
[06:48] <dennis> Huh?
[06:48] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: GDM = GNOME Display Manager
[06:48] <thoreauputic> levander`: :(
[06:49] <dennis> seth_k, what?
[06:49] <thoreauputic> I guess it might be
[06:49] <dennis> Like I'm running cedega....
[06:49] <dennis> and it can't find it because Program Files has a space
[06:49] <levander`> thoreauputic: that's what started happening to me for a few months before my CD drive just died, i wasted a lot of time trying to fix
[06:49] <zero-one> madsen: iam going test it now... bye
[06:49] <seth_k> dennis, type Prog[TAB]
[06:49] <levander`> thoreauputic: brand new DVD R/W drives are only $50 these days
[06:49] <thoreauputic> levander`: but in that case would warty be OK (It is)
[06:49] <seth_k> where [TAB]  is the tab key, not the letters
[06:49] <seth_k> it will auto-complete
[06:49] <madsen> Why the hell does Xorg.0.log tell me that COMPOSITE is loaded, when xcompmgr tells me it's not?!?
[06:49] <levander`> thoreauputic: with hardware failures, sometimes at first you get intermittent stuff
[06:50] <thoreauputic> yes, right
[06:50] <seth_k> madsen, maybe it tries to load and fails?
[06:50] <thechitowncubs> Why is ogg playback so slow in Totem-xine?
[06:50] <madsen> seth_k: It doesn't show anything about failing in the log.
[06:50] <thechitowncubs> Ogg Theora...
[06:50] <levander`> thoreauputic: i bet you don't use your CD drive a lot, and just never noticed it flakes out some times, until something in hoary tries to use it on boot
[06:50] <thoreauputic> levander`: well, I'll see what happens - at least I have aworkable system and a laptop here
[06:51] <thoreauputic> levander`: thanks for the help :)
[06:51] <levander`> thoreauputic: i'm guessing of course, but just something is using the cd drive more on boot in hoary
[06:51] <thoreauputic> levander`: OK - could be
[06:51] <madsen> seth_k: Only error I get is about PreInit failing for "Synaptics Touchpad" which I don't even have...
[06:51] <levander`> thoreauputic: try to get other people to check their syslog and see if there are any lost interrupt messages in there
[06:51] <Madpilot> hi all. how do I get ubuntu to tell me what it's calling my two CD drives?
[06:51] <xero> levander': yeah why does ur cdrom drive fail? ive had a few fail on me when installing ubuntu
[06:51] <madsen> (II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
[06:52] <levander`> thoreauputic: have you tried mkinitrd to remake an initrd image?  that was one of the things I tried to get my CD back up and working, it seemed to work for awhile.
[06:52] <seth_k> Madpilot, look in /media first off
[06:52] <bob2> Madpilot: ls /dev/cd*
[06:52] <Matthew_W> Anyone know how to get my sound to be reasonably audible?  -- the problem is... it's incoherently quiet, and my comp thinks the sound is coming from the headphones...
[06:52] <seth_k> Madpilot, usually /media/cdrom0 and /media/cdrom1
[06:52] <thoreauputic> levander`: no, this just happened an hour or two ago
[06:52] <xero> matthew_W: sudo alsamixer
[06:53] <levander`> thoreauputic: i'd google "mkinitrd cd" some
[06:53] <thoreauputic> levander`: OK
[06:53] <Matthew_W> xero:  all this does is let me change the volume levels, and again, the only one that changes is headphones.
[06:53] <ubu> Matthew_W, paste the output from ,,cat /proc/asound/cards'' and ,,amixer'' onto pastebin
[06:53] <levander`> also, there's gotta be a way to figure out what in /etc/rc2.d or elsewhere is starting the /etc/init.d/evms script
[06:53] <Madpilot> seth_k, bob2: it seems to list three drives - cdrom, cdrom0, cdrw -- but I only have two? odd
[06:54] <bob2> Madpilot: cdrom will point at one of the others
[06:54] <seth_k> Madpilot, my guess is cdrom -> cdrom0
[06:54] <seth_k> oops, beaten
[06:54] <Matthew_W> ubu:  explain pastebin
[06:54] <JohnnyQuest> i didnt find aynthign in that log..
[06:54] <ubu> Matthew_W, it's just a web site used for diagnostic purposes
[06:54] <seth_k> Matthew_W: http://pastebin.ca
[06:54] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Odd...
[06:54] <x_or> Is there a sound configuration utility for Hoary?  alsaconf is not installed, and apt-cache search shows nothing.
[06:55] <JohnnyQuest> that log had the same stuff as the other log
[06:55] <ubu> x_or, alsaconf was removed from Ubuntu's alsa-utils
[06:55] <bob2> x_or: what do you need to configure?
[06:55] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Nothing useful is output when you try: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart ?
[06:55] <Madpilot> bob2, seth_k: thnx. still trying to get a grip on how linux deals with drives & stuff...
[06:55] <x_or> Well, I have a new sound card, m-audio type, so I figured alsaconf was the easiest way to do this.
[06:55] <Matthew_W> ubu:  http://pastebin.ca/14221
[06:55] <JohnnyQuest> it just restarts and tells me gnome display manager failed
[06:55] <JohnnyQuest> everything else is ok
[06:55] <seth_k> Madpilot, np. Everything's a directory in Linux. Kinda weird, but useful after awhile
[06:55] <bob2> x_or: if it replaced the old one, then the correct module will be loaded on boot
[06:55] <seth_k> no more c:\
[06:56] <Juhaz> hoary installer can't resize fat32, right?
[06:56] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Odd.
[06:56] <Matthew_W> ubu:  let me know if any of this makes sense :P
[06:56] <x_or> No, there is an on-board chip, and this is a pci card.
[06:56] <JohnnyQuest> im going to reinstall because, i have alot of problems iwth that install
[06:56] <Madpilot> seth_k: also trying to get used to drives not appearing if there isn't anything in them...
[06:56] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Nothing on Ctrl-Alt-F7?
[06:56] <bob2> x_or: cool, then you shouldn't need to do anything at all
[06:56] <JohnnyQuest> nothin
[06:56] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Reinstalls are for windows.
[06:56] <JohnnyQuest> ya i know
[06:56] <Hhhhh> hello
[06:56] <JohnnyQuest> but, when i was installing packages
[06:56] <x_or> bob2:  How do I tell if the proper module is loaded, and use the card?
[06:57] <JohnnyQuest> the archive i was using wasnt woirking
[06:57] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Chances are that you'll end up with the same problems if you do the same stuff.
[06:57] <JohnnyQuest> so packages got partialy installed
[06:57] <JohnnyQuest> well im gonna do different stuff
[06:57] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Oh, bugger...
[06:57] <JohnnyQuest> ya
[06:57] <JohnnyQuest> this time
[06:57] <levander`> anybody try mythtv on ubuntu? am wondering how easy to configure
[06:57] <JohnnyQuest> ill change teh archieve
[06:57] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Well, you could try 'apt-get install -f'
[06:57] <JohnnyQuest> thtats wat imd oing levander
[06:57] <bob2> x_or: look at the output of dmesg, I guess
[06:57] <xero> levander': i tried to install it once and got a bunch of errors and never tried it agian
[06:57] <Hhhhh> questions about Ubuntu 5.04: does it ship with KDE? any special strengths and weaknesses of Ubuntu? I'm installing it right now as we talk
[06:57] <JohnnyQuest> im installing it levander
[06:57] <JohnnyQuest> i got knoppmyth to wokr
[06:58] <levander`> JohnnyQuest: it's going okay?
[06:58] <JohnnyQuest> im in here talking about problems
[06:58] <JohnnyQuest> (im new to linux)
[06:58] <ubu> Hhhhh, you can use kubuntu-desktop
[06:58] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Change the archives, run 'sudo apt-get update' and then run 'sudo apt-get install -f' - see if that fixes the partially installed packages and stuff.
[06:58] <levander`> JohnnyQuest: so you're not installing via the ubuntu repositories?
[06:58] <Matthew_W> ubu:  any ideas...?
[06:58] <ubu> Hhhhh, see #kubuntu
[06:58] <levander`> JohnnyQuest: starting Linux with mythtv is *brave*
[06:58] <ubu> Matthew_W, hold
[06:58] <JohnnyQuest> im installing ubuntu via the cd rom...
[06:58] <JohnnyQuest> ?
[06:58] <Matthew_W> ubu:  sure.
[06:58] <Fr0Gs> hey all i have installed a graphics binary from ATI and its worst how can i remove it
[06:59] <JohnnyQuest> ok madsen
[06:59] <kvidell> JohnnyQuest: Lav means are you installing MythTV from the repos?
[06:59] <JohnnyQuest> ill try taht and see if that helps
[06:59] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Use the official archives from Ubuntu.
[06:59] <JohnnyQuest> im installing mythtv from the cvs..
[06:59] <Fr0Gs> hey all i have installed a graphics binary from ATI and its worst how can i remove it
[06:59] <liable> Fr0Gs: a .deb package?
[06:59] <Fr0Gs> its froma  .run script
[06:59] <Fr0Gs> from ati
[06:59] <madsen> Ok, now for MY problem... Drop shadows...
[06:59] <xero> damn cable grrr
[06:59] <ubu> Matthew_W, please mute IEC958 and Capture
[06:59] <levander`> JohnnyQuest: are you sure if you install mythtv via knoppmyth that your supposed to install ubuntu first?
[06:59] <Hhhhh> udu: thanks, I'll look into that, I think Gnome is fine for now. Any special strengths and weaknesses of Ubuntu? I come from a Red Hat/Fedora/SuSE perspective, but I decided to try a new distro for a change
[07:00] <Matthew_W> ubu:  okay... how do I go about doing that?
[07:00] <JohnnyQuest> no
[07:00] <JohnnyQuest> i installed knoppmyth before
[07:00] <JohnnyQuest> i didnt like it
[07:00] <JohnnyQuest> so now im doing mythtv through ubuntu
[07:00] <kvidell> I'd use Gentoo or Slackware for a myth box
[07:00] <kvidell> then again it would be solely a myth box
[07:00] <ubu> Matthew_W, amixer sset 'IEC958' off ; amixer sset 'Capture' off
[07:00] <levander`> kvidell: why those distros?
[07:01] <kvidell> levander: light weight
[07:01] <kvidell> much much lighter than ubuntu
[07:01] <kvidell> harder to get going sometimes, sure, but they're very lightweight
[07:01] <JohnnyQuest> arnt they harder to use?
[07:01] <Fr0Gs> hey all i have installed a graphics binary from ATI and its worst how can i remove it
[07:01] <xero> i just tried installing mythtv and i had problems installing it
[07:01] <kvidell> yes, but I'm not here because ubuntu's easy to use :)
[07:01] <JohnnyQuest> i cant barely use ubuntu...
[07:01] <xero> said it couldnt get files
[07:01] <Matthew_W> bob2:  when I did that it returned   Front Left: Capture 0 [0%]  [on]
[07:02] <kvidell> I don't use ubuntu because it's easy... infact I only use ubuntu for laptops.
[07:02] <JohnnyQuest> well im reinstalling this time, maybe next time ill fix errors
[07:02] <kvidell> I use it because it's stable and works well on laptops.
[07:02] <JohnnyQuest> is it stable enough for a myth box?
[07:02] <duken> hi bob
[07:02] <ubu> JohnnyQuest, yes.
[07:02] <kvidell> JohnnyQuest: Is what stable enough for it? Ubuntu? Yes.
[07:02] <Matthew_W> ubu:  when i did that it returned   Front Left: Capture 0 [0%]  [on]
[07:02] <duken> i was run debmirror
[07:02] <Ben_Babcock> I've just installed Ubuntu and it said it had to boot back into Ubuntu to finish the installation.  However, upon rebooting the screen has gone blank.  Should I just wait, or do I need to reboot again?
[07:02] <duken> but i have trouble
[07:03] <duken> [0%]  Getting: dists/hoary/universe/binary-i386/Release   #
[07:03] <duken> Failed to download some Package, Sources, Contents or release files!
[07:03] <duken> releasing 1 pending lock... at /usr/lib/perl5/LockFile/Simple.pm line 182.
[07:03] <levander`> JohnnyQuest: you know i think there's a #myth or #mythtv channel
[07:03] <kvidell> Anything is. It's that if I had a Myth box I'd want ONLY myth on it.
[07:03] <duken> why ?
[07:03] <ubu> Matthew_W, ok, that's fine.
[07:03] <kvidell> so I wouldn't need all the other stuff.... just myth.
[07:03] <JohnnyQuest> there is
[07:03] <ubu> duken, which mirror are you using? See the topic.
[07:03] <JohnnyQuest> im in it
[07:03] <JohnnyQuest> its #mythtv-users
[07:03] <Matthew_W> ubu:  Now?  (oh, and if I turn capture off.. will my mic still work?  God I'm a nub... lol)
[07:03] <ubu> Matthew_W, I presume you muted IEC958 (the spdif output)
[07:03] <JohnnyQuest> im just having ubuntu probs
[07:03] <JohnnyQuest> not myth probs
[07:04] <Matthew_W> ubu:  I typed into a terminal exactly what you put.  (in 2 lines, with sudo preceding it.)
[07:04] <ubu> Matthew_W, you wanted Capture _on_? Why didn't you say so?
[07:04] <Matthew_W> ubu:  because I don't know what Capture is  lol
[07:04] <ubu> Matthew_W, no need for sudo. Your default $USER has sufficient privileges to access those controls.
[07:04] <ubu> Matthew_W, it's fairly self-explanatory: it's the toggle for recording something. :)
[07:04] <Matthew_W> ubu:  I guessed that afterward.  lol
[07:04] <duken> ubuntulog, au.archive.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.co,
[07:04] <ubu> Matthew_W, of course then you also have to select _what_ you want to record.
[07:04] <duken> ubuntulog, au.archive.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com
[07:05] <Matthew_W> ubu:  Just incase I want to use Skype, or something.
[07:05] <david> why dont i have sound when playing games??
[07:05] <duken> ubu, ubuntu, au.archive.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com
[07:05] <dr_willis> perhaps you have the volume muted.
[07:05] <david> neg i got volume up
[07:05] <Matthew_W> ubu:  So, now that I've done this, the sound is still incoherently quiet, are there any other steps? (it still thinks I'm using headphones)
[07:06] <Fr0Gs> hey all i have installed a graphics binary from ATI and its worst how can i remove it
[07:06] <Fr0Gs> hey all i have installed a graphics binary from ATI and its worst how can i remove it
[07:06] <Fr0Gs> i need help
[07:06] <zero-one> Madsen: yes4!!!! problem fixed!!! everything running ok!
[07:06] <kvidell> Fr0Gs: We saw it the first time :) If no one answers it's likely no one knows and Professor Google becomes your new best friend.
[07:07] <Fr0Gs> damn it
[07:07] <kvidell> However, if it's something you installed using apt-get, then try apt-get remove package
[07:07] <Fr0Gs> is it possible to remove it
[07:07] <kvidell> I don't know.
[07:07] <ubu> Matthew_W, are you using amixer or alsamixer to adjust the volume?
[07:07] <kvidell> How did you install it in the first place?
[07:08] <kvidell> reverse engineering DOES work for a lot of things.
[07:08] <Matthew_W> ubu:  alsamixer.  amixer I just used to return all of those things you wanted pasted.  Basically, this program happens on all operating systems I've had on this laptop other than windoze.
[07:08] <Matthew_W> ubu:  ... and I've never fixed it.  lol.
[07:08] <ubu> Matthew_W, program->problem?
[07:09] <Matthew_W> ubu:  problem, yes.
[07:09] <Matthew_W> ubu:  2:30 - no sleep - no caffeine.  lol
[07:10] <zero-one> everything working
[07:11] <thoreauputic> levander`: bob2; I might have found an answer - cd-rom would not mount, then i checked /var/log/syslog and saw errors "DMA timeout" so i edited /etc/hdparm.conf and added '  interrupt_unmask = on' and now it's mounting...
[07:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone know what the amber light means on a router, as opposed to green?
[07:11] <zero-one> I would like say THANK YOU to everyone... My windows and my ubuntu are running BETTER THAN EVER! THANKS!!!!
[07:12] <nalioth_wrkn> BROKEN_LADDER: depends on the model
[07:12] <madsen> zero-one: Great! :)
[07:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> my sip phone is connected but the router shows it as amber, not green.
[07:12] <Matthew_W> ubu:  One of the only 2 problems I have ever had with linux
[07:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> i don't know what the sip phone could be doing weird..it's working fine.
[07:12] <ubuntu_phil> does anyone know if prism3 chipset cards will work with packet injection progs like aireplay?
[07:12] <madsen> zero-one: Glad that it worked out well. :)
[07:12] <zero-one> yes...
[07:13] <ubu> Matthew_W, what motherboard do you have?
[07:13] <ubuntu_phil> zero-one, was that "yes" addressed to me?
[07:13] <madsen> And I found out that the changes for drop-shadows should be applied to xorg.conf and NOT XF86Config-4... DOH!
[07:13] <caonex> while trying to install a kernel image with apt-get i get an error indicating that my grub does not support initrd, what is suppose to be done here?
[07:13] <madsen> ubuntu_phil: I think it was for me. :)
[07:13] <zero-one> madsen: yes
[07:14] <zero-one> no phil... yes was for madsen
[07:14] <ubuntu_phil> ok thanks
[07:14] <Matthew_W> ubu:  uh... I'm not entirely sure.  It's an ACER aspire 3500... I don't really know laptop hardware well at all.  It's an intel chipset...
[07:14] <zero-one> So, if there's brazilian user with dual boot problems should see this site
[07:14] <zero-one> http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/artigos/verArtigo.php?codigo=1271&pagina=5
[07:15] <david> my games are really laggy can someone help me?
[07:15] <caonex> /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: Cannot determine root device ??
[07:16] <zero-one> There, brazilian users - or from other countries with some determination ;-) -  with dual boot problems with lilo or grub can find very good info.
[07:16] <zero-one> http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/artigos/verArtigo.php?codigo=1271&pagina=5
[07:17] <ubu> Matthew_W, does adjusting the Master control actually change the Headphones?
[07:17] <xero> i have had major dualbooting problems on my laptop
[07:17] <xero> with ANY linux distro and windows
[07:17] <zero-one> thanks every one and good night
[07:17] <ubu> Matthew_W, and are you actually using the Headphones jack?
[07:17] <xero> i gave up and just run ubuntu now :-)
[07:17] <Matthew_W> ubu:  No, the master does nothing.  I didn't even know I had a headphones jack... so no.  lol.
[07:18] <nomasteryoda> xero, good for u
[07:19] <Matthew_W> ubu:  Although when I do use the headphones, they're not deafening, but they're not nearly as quiet.
[07:20] <raz> Trying to compile the mplayer mozilla plugins. Stuck at this command, help would be appreciated: ./configure --with-gecko-sdk=/home/username/work/gecko-sdk  ... [one of]  the error i get is:  Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[07:20] <ubu> Matthew_W, so mute the Headphones control (press 'm' in alsamixer) and increase the Master
[07:20] <Matthew_W> ubu:  actually, they're still kind of quiet even in the headphones...
[07:20] <Matthew_W> ubu: I'll try that.
[07:21] <caonex> i have grub configured with the kernel image and initrd.img that are bundled with ubuntu; however, when i try to boot i get an error with initrd. How can i installed or whatever to grub?
[07:21] <Matthew_W> ubu:  Now there is -no- sound.
[07:21] <caonex> i have the right line as initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.5.10-5-386
[07:21] <Matthew_W> ubu: lol
[07:21] <flodine> how do you free memory on ubuntu
[07:21] <ubu> Matthew_W, ok, then you need to just control the Headphones jack
[07:22] <Matthew_W> ubu:  explain further?
[07:22] <ubu> flodine, you don't do that manually. Linux (the kernel) does that for you.
[07:22] <ubu> Matthew_W, just adjust the Headphones (unmute it)
[07:23] <Matthew_W> ubu:  but therein lies the problem, even on 100% headphone volume, and 100% beep media player volume, the sound is still incredibly quiet, with 10% the quality it should have, etc.
[07:24] <ubu> Matthew_W, the only way to test a workaround is to upgrade ALSA versions, and I have to go to bed now. If you search the forum, however, you can find my mailing list posts ("crimsun") explaining how to use 'alsa-source' from universe.
[07:24] <visor> hi folks :)
[07:24] <raz>  any ideas on how to get gtk2-devel throu apt-get/synaptics?
[07:24] <ubu> raz, install libgtk2.0-dev
[07:25] <thoreauputic> 2.6.10-5-686
[07:25] <thoreauputic> yes!
[07:25] <thoreauputic> back in business
[07:25] <xxenon> ?
[07:26] <thoreauputic> I got my kernel to boot....
[07:26] <xxenon> ah ..
[07:26] <thoreauputic> whew
[07:26] <raz> ubu, ty.
[07:26] <ubu> raz, np
[07:26] <thoreauputic> !seen levander`
[07:26] <ubotu> levander` is currently on #ubuntu (1h 19m 14s)
[07:27] <magoo> hi all! the topic says 'use archive.ubuntu.com...' but I can't find apps I want to install in that one. Is there some other method or repositories?
[07:27] <thoreauputic> levander`: if you're around - I owe you a beer or three :)
[07:27] <ubu> magoo, make sure you update after you change /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:27] <visor> anybody has any idea why graphical Java applications do not fit the theme in gnome? Azureus does but debuging information tells me that the current engine isnt supported but its weird cause azureus looks just good but others like LimeWire or the gallery client do not
[07:28] <magoo> ubu: yes
[07:28] <visor> and yes, i have jre 1.5 installed, this may be a jre issue but i just want to know if any of you have the same problem
[07:28] <thoreauputic> visor: maybe they use swing?
[07:28] <ubu> magnon, "yes" as in you have?
[07:28] <ubu> magnon, sorry
[07:28] <visor> thoreauputic: most probably yes
[07:28] <magoo> ubu: yea
[07:28] <ubu> magoo, as in you have updated?
[07:29] <visor> thoreauputic: but then the problem is within jre itself and not a ubuntu/gnome issue isnt it?
[07:29] <thoreauputic> visor: I haven't seen swing in action lately, but it used to look horrible
[07:29] <thoreauputic> visor: yeah, widget kit/intrface for java
[07:29] <thoreauputic> *interface
[07:29] <visor> thoreauputic: i used to use jre 1.5 in other distributiones and it wrapped gtk just well, i only have this problem in ubuntu
[07:30] <thoreauputic> visor: ah - well then I don't know
[07:30] <ubu> magoo, what application are you attempting to install?
[07:30] <thoreauputic> visor: I currently don't use java at all
[07:31] <visor> and it is suppossed that jre 1.5 uses the same engine as gtk, in fact i think i used once jre 1.4 and it worked flawlessly and all apps aside those that use native java widgets worked just well
[07:31] <magoo> ubu: well updated the list havnt done any upgrades. just wanted to install mplayer :)
[07:31] <thoreauputic> hmmm ... :(
[07:31] <visor> thoreauputic: me neither but i found this program for uploading photos to a webserver using gallery and i thought it would be useful but it is written in java
[07:32] <thoreauputic> i see
[07:32] <ubu> magnon, mplayer-586 (et al.) are in multiverse. Did you enable that repo?
[07:32] <thoreauputic> fair enough
[07:32] <gamess> what I cant login at http://localhost:631 using my account
[07:32] <gamess> it says their that use Root Account
[07:32] <gamess> *Why
[07:32] <visor> and i can stand the horrible java look but this really looks bad, its unreadable, the labels couldnt be read, its all whitey
[07:32] <ubu> gamess, use the System>Administration>Printing tool instead
[07:33] <gamess> ubu, I cant delete the existing printer nor to stop the pending jobs of it
[07:33] <visor> i will try to update jre or downgrade to 1.4.2 maybe that'll fix it
[07:33] <gamess> if I click Cancel, the Window will just hangup
[07:33] <ubu> gamess, did you check the wiki?
[07:33] <gamess> waht wiki-wiki ?
[07:34] <ubu> see the topic.
[07:34] <gamess> ok
[07:34] <gamess> scrolling up.......
[07:35] <gamess> if possible, I want to manage the printer using the web-based environment
[07:36] <magoo> ubu: no i gess im too noob for that :) added multiverse to the sections line in synaptic but still cant find the app
[07:36] <thoreauputic> levander`: ping
[07:36] <ubu> magoo, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list onto pastebin.ca
[07:37] <visor> geez the channel has grown a lot
[07:37] <gamess> ubu, i cant find about HP printer in the Wiki......
[07:37] <gamess> :)
[07:37] <visor> gamess: whats the problem?
[07:38] <gamess> visor, about removing my printer
[07:39] <gamess> or stoping it pending Jobs
[07:39] <gamess> coz I will click cancel on it, it will just hangup
[07:39] <visor> gamess: and cant it be done by the gnome printers admin tool?
[07:40] <gamess> yes
[07:40] <visor> gamess: and... so?
[07:40] <gamess> the printer window will just hangup if Ill going the cancel its jobs
[07:40] <gamess> also the printer doesnt response anymore
[07:41] <gamess> but yesterday, id succesffuly done a Print Test page
[07:41] <visor> is it supported?
[07:41] <gamess> now, It wont print
[07:41] <gamess> yes
[07:41] <gamess> HP Deskjet 3550
[07:41] <josemi> gamess: try using cups simply
[07:41] <josemi> via http
[07:41] <josemi> and selecting your printer if available
[07:42] <gamess> josemi, but it ask for root password
[07:42] <anacron_> supergood morning!
[07:42] <gamess> but they said that Ubuntu doesnt have Root Account
[07:42] <magoo> ubu: ok here i think http://pastebin.ca/14224
[07:42] <GNULinuxer> in which Repo can I find Adobe Acrobat Reader 7.0 ? I have universe enabled, but I still don't find it on synaptic
[07:42] <gamess> i cant also used my Sudo account in that http://localhost:631
[07:42] <anacron> gamess: you can have one, if you want
[07:42] <rommer> should a swap partition be logical or primary?
[07:42] <gamess> how ?
[07:42] <gamess> :)
[07:42] <gamess> thats interesting
[07:43] <anacron> gamess: just add one,
[07:43] <gamess> add one ?
[07:43] <gamess> account ?
[07:43] <anacron> gamess: sudo passwd <sumthing>
[07:43] <anacron> passwd root*
[07:43] <Dr_willis_> rommer,  it dosent matter
[07:43] <ubu> magoo, you typo'd
[07:43] <gamess> i have 2 user accounts on this Ubuntu system
[07:43] <rommer> dr_willis ok ta
[07:43] <ubu> magoo, replace "unstable" with "universe"
[07:44] <magoo> ubu: ok thabks
[07:44] <josemi> gamess: root passwd ? and what's the problem ??
[07:44] <anacron> gamess: there's no need for root account though, you can use sudo for everything
[07:44] <magoo> *thanks
[07:44] <josemi> gamess: sudo passwd root
[07:44] <doonz> hey guys with that url in the topic how do i get the repositories to use it?
[07:44] <josemi> and set it.
[07:44] <FR500> hello
[07:44] <duken> hi how much space hardisk required for mirroring ubuntu just hoary, arch i386 ?
[07:44] <gamess> ill try
[07:44] <FR500> is any of ou able to use the irc gdesklet without doing a thing
[07:44] <gamess> what would be a Root's username
[07:44] <gamess> ?
[07:45] <josemi> gamess: do this
[07:45] <josemi> sudo passwd root
[07:45] <josemi> and no more
[07:45] <josemi> then log int using the root account
[07:45] <josemi> login root passwd: whatever you want
[07:45] <gamess> passwd: password updated successfully
[07:45] <gamess> like that ?
[07:45] <josemi> that's ok
[07:45] <josemi> then
[07:45] <josemi> you can log in as root
[07:45] <josemi> su -
[07:46] <josemi> and so on
[07:46] <anacron> but again, there's no need for root account
[07:46] <josemi> anacron:
[07:46] <josemi> mm
[07:46] <anacron> since you can use sudo, and sudo -s
[07:46] <josemi> I disagree
[07:46] <NicP> why on earth would you want to do that
[07:46] <josemi> yeap
[07:46] <josemi> your installation-user
[07:46] <josemi> is a root-like account
[07:46] <josemi> so, it's preffered for me
[07:46] <josemi> delete this account
[07:47] <thoreauputic> josemi: sudo -s achieves the same effect as su anyway
[07:47] <josemi> and create a new one
[07:47] <NicP> one of the benifits of sudo is no root account
[07:47] <kvidell> I agree, I haven't used my root account since I learned about sudo YEARS ago on an old RedHat box
[07:47] <josemi> with NO privileges
[07:47] <anacron> josemi: why would i do that?
[07:47] <josemi> well... I use Gentoo
[07:47] <NicP> but your user has no privledges untill you use sudo
[07:47] <anacron> that's just stupid :D
[07:47] <kvidell> yea really.. that's kind of.. well... short-bus
[07:47] <kvidell> and redundant :-P
[07:47] <thoreauputic> josemi: you are a bit confused about sudo, methinks :)
[07:48] <josemi> I don't want anybody be able to do sudo or privileged tasks
[07:48] <kvidell> the ndon't let them
[07:48] <doonz> can anyone help me out?
[07:48] <josemi> without the ROOT account
[07:48] <NicP> lol
[07:48] <josemi> that's for security
[07:48] <NicP> yeah create another user then
[07:48] <mhz> hi you all
[07:48] <dbernar1> a user inHoary has to be in the admin group to use sudo
[07:48] <kvidell> um
[07:48] <kvidell> so is sudo
[07:48] <gamess> you cant understand me guyz, http://localhost:631 has a msgbox-like prompt that requesting for Root's USERNAME and PASSWORD before i can access the service
[07:48] <NicP> that has no privledges
[07:48] <josemi> I know
[07:48] <kvidell> you really don't know how to use it then
[07:48] <dbernar1> In Warty, you need to add him to the sudoers file.
[07:48] <josemi> I know what is sudo for
[07:48] <gamess> not in command line
[07:48] <kvidell> no you don't :)
[07:48] <kvidell> I find that hard to believe at this point.
[07:48] <josemi> kvidell: ok then.
[07:48] <NicP> so do i
[07:49] <josemi> Kvidell: i don't want users to be able to use SUDO
[07:49] <kvidell> You can limit WHAT commands people can run even
[07:49] <josemi> that's all.
[07:49] <mhz> hames, did you adduser cupsys shadow  ?
[07:49] <kvidell> then don't le them
[07:49] <kvidell> you have to add them to an allowed list first
[07:49] <kvidell> if you don't add them, they can't use it
[07:49] <mhz> gamess, did you adduser cupsys shadow  ?
[07:49] <doonz>  | Use archive.ubuntu.com if us.archive.ubuntu.com gives md5sum errors   <-- how do i do this?????
[07:49] <NicP> so disallw them
[07:49] <NicP> yeah
[07:49] <NicP> not all users can use sudo
[07:49] <NicP> only ones that are specified
[07:49] <dbernar1> doonz what?
[07:49] <Hhhhh> what do you use to set up users with sudo, visudo?
[07:49] <anacron> doonz: topic
[07:49] <kvidell> you can also specify which commands people can or cannot use
[07:49] <dbernar1> you want to change us. to just without that?
[07:50] <josemi> kvidell: I know
[07:50] <thoreauputic> doonz: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the "us." on each line
[07:50] <doonz> ahh ok
[07:50] <josemi> and I don't want people to use sudo (in any way)
[07:50] <kvidell> They use SUDO in the cisco datacenters to let the engineers do a few remedial tasks so the sysadmin's aren't being constantly harassed
[07:50] <kvidell> why?
[07:50] <doonz> thanx thoreauputic
[07:50] <kvidell> you'd rather them have FULL access?
[07:50] <thoreauputic> doonz: then do an apt-get update
[07:50] <doonz> ok
[07:50] <josemi> kvidell: ubuntu is not for datacenters
[07:50] <thoreauputic> dooglus: no worries:)
[07:50] <kvidell> no
[07:50] <dbernar1> heh
[07:50] <kvidell> I said they use SUDO though :)
[07:50] <kvidell> so does ubuntu
[07:50] <mhz> Has any one here successfully run NFS server and clinets???
[07:50] <josemi> yeap, and NASA uses Zope + Plone so waht ?=
[07:51] <thoreauputic> mhz: sure
[07:51] <kvidell> I'm staryting to get the inkling you're only here to troll
[07:51] <josemi> kvidell: me ?
[07:51] <thoreauputic> mhz: install openssh-server
[07:51] <josemi> kvidell: no no
[07:51] <kvidell> yes, you :)
[07:51] <josemi> kvidell: this is not my intention
[07:51] <josemi> kvidell: so I explain my opinion
[07:52] <abbot45> ive got something in my trash bin that wont delete.  its just a folder that i put in there from a removable usb drive.  it says that its from a read only drive so i cant delete it.
[07:52] <abbot45> its really bugging me.  how can i get rid of this thing?
[07:52] <mhz> thoreauputic, cool. I've read 3 diff (similar though) HowTos + the one in ubuntu  wiki UNsuccessfully :(  Openssh-server is installed, so is portmap in all clients and server
[07:52] <dbernar1_> if you want to remove it, type in sudo rm -r ~/.Trash/*
[07:52] <thoreauputic> mhz: good
[07:52] <NicP> josemi: theres nothing stopping you from setting up your machine with a root account if you feel the need, but there are reasons that the sudo system has been chosen, please dont encourage newbies to setup a root account when they have no idea what they are doing and they can do everything with the current sudo system
[07:53] <mhz> :)
[07:53] <NicP> :)
[07:53] <thoreauputic> mhz: have you read the tldp howto?
[07:53] <mhz> thoreauputic, let me re-check
[07:53] <josemi> NicP: I agree but (for mi) it's more easy to have a root account for privileged tasks
[07:54] <josemi> or... if you want this in other words
[07:54] <thoreauputic> mhz: I don't use windows, and I find nfs is much quicker for me than samba
[07:54] <josemi> I't's highly recommended to know your root passwd, in fact.
[07:54] <mhz> thoreauputic, BTW, I only will use/need NFS to mount dirs. I wont use NIs
[07:54] <xero> what is nfs?
[07:54] <josemi> network filesystem (Surely)
[07:54] <abbot45> dbernar1, "rm: cannot remove `/home/adam/.Trash/Themes': No such file or directory"
[07:54] <mhz> thoreauputic, I prefer not to use samba
[07:54] <doonz> thanx thor it worked
[07:54] <xero> is it used in place of samba?
[07:54] <thoreauputic> mhz: so do I :)
[07:55] <mhz> :)
[07:55] <thoreauputic> doonz: great
[07:55] <NicP> josemi: but if there is no root account and no root password theoretically the system is more secure
[07:55] <thoreauputic> doonz: :)
[07:55] <mhz> xero, not "instead" but you could say so
[07:55] <josemi> NicP: so root's account have to exists in any way
[07:55] <josemi> -s
[07:55] <dbernar1_> abbot45 um do a ls ~/.Trash and tell me the folders there, please do not paste long text.
[07:55] <xero> ... could you explain?
[07:55] <thoreauputic> xero: nfs is the *nix standard, but alot of folks use samba anyway now
[07:55] <josemi> you can call this account root or "default install user" but's a privileged users
[07:56] <josemi> user
[07:56] <NicP> well if that works for you thats fine
[07:56] <signius> there seems to be a problem with the source archive gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[07:56] <thoreauputic> xero: samba was designed to interact with windows networks from *nix
[07:56] <josemi> NicP: of course, so I agree: SUDO is an usefull tool.
[07:56] <thoreauputic> xero: nfs is the native system
[07:56] <signius> i just edited my apt source list and removed the gb. and it works perfect now
[07:56] <dbernar1_> a useful
[07:56] <josemi> ok sorry
[07:57] <josemi> I'm spanish
[07:57] <dbernar1_> sorry, just language geek.
[07:57] <josemi> my english is too poor
[07:57] <xero> oh ic ok
[07:57] <dbernar1_> I thiunk I understood everything so far
[07:57] <thoreauputic> xero: but samba is so good that a lot of people use it in *nix networks now as well
[07:57] <xero> so nfs will not work with windows stuff?
[07:57] <xero> yeah i know samba is quite popular
[07:57] <bob2> xero: you can buy NFS clients for windows
[07:57] <abbot45> dbernar1, it doesnt show anything when i ls.  when i navigate to ~/.trash it is empty.  but it shows the "stuff is in your trash can" icon and when i click on that it shows that there is that file in there.
[07:57] <xero> i use that if i dont use ftp
[07:57] <xero> buy... ha!
[07:57] <Fr0Gs> my ubuntu keeps crashing since i installed the ati drivers please help
[07:57] <thoreauputic> xero: it will, but it isn't worth the hassle - and samba works better for windows
[07:58] <xero> kewl
[07:58] <bob2> Fr0Gs: define "crashing"
[07:58] <josemi> lol
[07:58] <josemi> XDD
[07:58] <thoreauputic> bob2: I solved my kernel problem! :D
[07:58] <mhz> thoreauputic, oh, i did read http://nfs.sourceforge.net/  instead the one in TLDP. I am reading tlpd now, just in case. However, i do have to "claim" that  /proc/filesystems has NO 'nfs' line :)
[07:58] <dbernar1_> abbot45 then it is gone, not sure how to get the icon fixed, try killall gnome-panel in a terminal
[07:58] <bob2> thoreauputic: woo, what was it?
[07:58] <dbernar1_> signius /topic, maybe
[07:58] <xero> fr0gs: yeah have fun w/ ati drivers... i still cannot get dualmonitors working
[07:58] <Fr0Gs> when i try and move desktop items the whole computer freezes bob2 and after a while of just leaving it sitting there it crashes
[07:59] <Fr0Gs> just jams up
[07:59] <Fr0Gs> freezes
[07:59] <signius> ????? whats the /topic thing about ?
[07:59] <abbot45> dbernar1, its not just the icon though.  when i click on the icon it brings up nautilus with the file in there.
[07:59] <signius> i am new to irc
[07:59] <bob2> Fr0Gs: so, remove them
[07:59] <thoreauputic> bob2: I found DMA errors - delays , in /var/log/syslog, so I enabled interrupt_unmask in hdparm.conf
[07:59] <bob2> signius: type /topic into your irc client
[07:59] <dbernar1_> just type it in
[07:59] <bob2> thoreauputic: hrm, ok
[07:59] <abbot45> when i click on the file it navigates to the trash bin on my mp3 player.  /media/GMINI 400/.Trash-adam
[07:59] <thoreauputic> bob2: and now it boots OK to the new kernel
[07:59] <dbernar1_> wow
[08:00] <thoreauputic> bob2: the errors were related to /dev/hdc
[08:00] <thoreauputic> which is my CD-Rom
[08:00] <bob2> Fr0Gs: no, please don't /msg me
[08:00] <signius> yeah you say that as if my comments were not related to ubuntu ?
[08:00] <Fr0Gs> ok
[08:00] <bob2> Fr0Gs: sorry they're unstable for you, can you file a bug please?
[08:00] <Fr0Gs> err ok
[08:00] <Fr0Gs> :)
[08:00] <josemi> anyone of you knows if a Riva TNT2 *m64* works fine (agp) under Linux, I know this card does not works fine under windows 9x or 2K
[08:00] <josemi> ?
[08:00] <Fr0Gs> should i get a lower version of ubuntu then try
[08:00] <dbernar1_> signius no, there is a portion in the topic about mirrors, somewhat related
[08:00] <gamesss> sorry got DC, we got brown out due to heavy rains :)
[08:01] <Fr0Gs> brown out lol
[08:01] <Fr0Gs> bob2 would a older version of ubuntu help
[08:01] <gamesss> who said about, adduser cupsys shadow command ?
[08:01] <signius> Ah ok i see it now
[08:01] <gamesss> thats the last words I seen on my Xchat
[08:01] <dbernar1_> yup2o_O
[08:01] <bob2> Fr0Gs: I wouldn't think so
[08:02] <signius> i did a search on google previously and it didnt come up with anything useful
[08:02] <Fr0Gs> lol
[08:02] <Fr0Gs> then whats the problem
[08:02] <thoreauputic> bob2: can you think of any reason the recent kernel would cause DMA issues on boot? My previous kernel had no problems...
[08:02] <signius> and an obscure line in the heading of an irc chat isnt the most prominant of places to provide that info i dont think
[08:02] <signius> but its resolved now all the same
[08:02] <dbernar1_> whatg do you turn on in BIOS to make a hard disk bootable? just the boot sequence?
[08:03] <dbernar1_> signius excellent
[08:03] <bob2> Fr0Gs: it's a binary driver, there's little anything but ATI can do to fix it
[08:03] <bob2> signius: where would you prefer it be put?
[08:03] <gamesss> i can made a Test print in Printers, but when I print thur OpenOffice, the jobs will just go "Printing 2 Job" but the printer doesnt print....
[08:03] <gamesss> *thru
[08:03] <litheum> installing 5.04 and installer is erroring when selecting kernel "linux-386". error is related to dpkg "Errors were encountered while processing : /cdrom/pool/.../linux-image.2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34_i386.deb. \n E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[08:03] <signius> you dont make it bootable in the BIOS you make it bootable in FDISK or CFDISK or whatever other flavour you use
[08:04] <dbernar1_> signius hehe, windows wont boot:P
[08:04] <signius> you can change the boot order in the BIOS
[08:04] <dbernar1_> m$ says change your bios...:) for the error...
[08:04] <signius> are dual booting windows and GNU/Linux ?
[08:04] <dbernar1_> not yet..
[08:04] <dbernar1_> I am reainstallin the whole comp
[08:04] <litheum> here's more info "dpkg-dev (subprocess): error in buffer_read(stream): failed to write to pipe in copy: Input/output error"
[08:04] <litheum> any ideas?
[08:04] <dbernar1_> 3 OSs, 2 HDs.
[08:04] <signius> Im confused
[08:05] <black13> i keep getting this error undefined reference to `__stack_smash_handler'
[08:05] <signius> so if you havnt touched anything why has windows stopped booting
[08:05] <dbernar1_> Primary master wont boot windows once it copies the files to the HD, anyhow, OT...
[08:05] <dbernar1_> nono, I am installing it now.
[08:05] <dbernar1_> anyhow, OT. forget it.
[08:05] <signius> OT ??
[08:05] <dbernar1_> off topic
[08:05] <signius> ok i got to get going for work :-(
[08:06] <signius> bye for now chaps
[08:06] <dbernar1_> see ya
[08:06] <gamesss> anybody help me with my printer ?
[08:06] <mhz> thoreauputic, hmm, why is that hoary does not gimme an NFS output for 'insmod nfs'??  insmod: can't read 'nfs': No such file or directory
[08:06] <dbernar1_> checked OOo is using the right printer
[08:06] <rommer> how do i install nvidia drivers?
[08:06] <Ghetek> is it "$mount my iso file please" or "$mount my iso file pretty please"?
[08:06] <mhz> thoreauputic, my kernel experience sucks, i know
[08:07] <mhz> :)
[08:07] <litheum> mhz: you don't have the NFS kernel module built/available?
[08:07] <dbernar1_> !binarydriver
[08:07] <ubotu> dbernar1_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:07] <dbernar1_> !binary
[08:07] <ubotu> dbernar1_: I give up, what is it?
[08:07] <thoreauputic> mhz: you don't need to do that
[08:07] <dbernar1_> rommer www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/binarydriverhowto
[08:08] <Mahl> Quick : Im using k3b and its burning fine usually at 40 x....(I had to set up the buffer used by k3b manually) But when burning Audio cd's....the Device buffer drops and drops and drops
[08:08] <Mahl> any solution
[08:08] <rommer> dbernar1_: thanks
[08:08] <mhz> litheum, AFAIK, I chose Ubuntu BECAUSE it had "everything" a regular honorable distro needs :)
[08:08] <dbernar1_> Ghetek...?
[08:08] <NicP> mahl: i belive it has something to do with the drivers or something, some talk about if u use the emulated scsi driver it works at full speed
[08:08] <Ghetek> im just trying to mount an iso here
[08:08] <NicP> i have simmilar problems
[08:08] <thoreauputic> mhz: if you set up your /etc/exports right, and start the portmapper before the server, you should be fine
[08:09] <litheum> mhz: doesn't mean that you installed all the stuff that you are trying to use
[08:09] <doonz> hey guys i installed a few apps from that ubuntuguide page but they arent showing up with icons
[08:09] <mhz> thoreauputic, so I thought :)
[08:09] <gamesss> i guess noone about printers, :) Ok just teach how do I Install my Sony Microvault Flash Disk? Coz when I plugged it, it can be detected/ install....
[08:09] <thoreauputic> mhz: what issues are you having?
[08:09] <dbernar1_> Ghetek that is shown on ubuntuguide.org or maybe even in ubuntulinux.org/wiki/frontpage/searchwiki
[08:09] <gamesss> *cant
[08:09] <mhz> thoreauputic: no mounting anything at all :D
[08:10] <dbernar1_> doonz just teh icons missing? killall gnome-panel
[08:10] <thoreauputic> mhz: you know about the rpcinfo command?
[08:10] <mhz> yep
[08:10] <Mahl> NicP, its just for Audio CD's
[08:10] <doonz> sweeet
[08:10] <doonz> thnx
[08:10] <mhz> it shows everything running in the server
[08:10] <gamesss> no one also :) .....
[08:10] <Ghetek> ok will look thanks
[08:10] <dbernar1_> gamesss um........... did you check that OOo is using the right printer?
[08:10] <dbernar1_> welcome both
[08:11] <gamesss> what 00o ?
[08:11] <thoreauputic> mhz: you should see a bunch of stuff if you run rpcinfo -p
[08:11] <dbernar1_> OpenOffice.org
[08:11] <gamesss> yes
[08:11] <gamesss> I set it up to the right name printer
[08:11] <thoreauputic> mhz: portmapper, nfs, nlockmgr, mountd, status
[08:11] <gamesss> but the Printer will says Printing 2 Jobs, but it doesnt print
[08:12] <dbernar1_> ok, well, then I dont know. it should print. as for the flash disk... a USB key?
[08:12] <gamesss> but when I made the TEst print before that, it successfully print
[08:12] <mhz> thoreauputic, can i paste here?
[08:12] <thoreauputic> mhz: no :)
[08:12] <gamesss> :)
[08:12] <mhz> I thought so
[08:12] <dbernar1_> http://pastebin.com
[08:12] <thoreauputic> mht: maybe /j #flood
[08:13] <dbernar1_> I loved 144000 modems...:p
[08:13] <gamesss> if this computer wont print, I will reformat it and back to WindowsXP again...
[08:13] <dbernar1_> damn error in windows!
[08:13] <gamesss> coz we always do here is Office applications :)
[08:13] <dbernar1_> why do I have to have that OS anyhow...
[08:13] <josemi> gameness: have you tried to run Cups ?
[08:14] <gamesss> how can I make the cup run ?
[08:14] <josemi> gamenesss: /etc/init.d/cups start
[08:14] <gamesss> ill try
[08:14] <mhz> gamesss, /etc/init.d/cupsys start
[08:15] <gamesss> root@pnpaserver:/home/pnpa # /etc/init.d/cupsys start
[08:15] <gamesss>  * Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd
[08:15] <gamesss> root@pnpaserver:/home/pnpa #
[08:15] <josemi> gamenesss: then you should get access to an interface via http
[08:15] <gamesss> thats right?
[08:15] <josemi> yeap
[08:15] <josemi> that's right
[08:15] <gamesss> lol,,,, ill try to print now...
[08:15] <gamesss> :)
[08:15] <josemi> now go to your browser
[08:15] <gamesss> ok
[08:15] <josemi> and set your printer first
[08:15] <gamesss> josemi, then what ?
[08:16] <gamesss> josemi, it will ask for a username and password
[08:16] <gamesss> and Prompt always frigthened me
[08:16] <dbernar1_> Ghetek make sure not to use their advice rashly, there is some bad ideas there, somewhat
[08:16] <gamesss> I always did all my user account here in Ubuntu but It cant access
[08:16] <black13> does anyone know anything about `__stack_smash_handler'
[08:16] <dbernar1_> brb
[08:16] <Ghetek> ok
[08:17] <josemi> gameness: try with a root browser
[08:17] <josemi> or simply point to <IP_ADDRESS>:8081 ?
[08:17] <gamesss> ok
[08:18] <gamesss> josemi, he refused
[08:18] <gamesss> connection refused
[08:18] <dbernar1_> no apache installed=no localhost
[08:18] <dbernar1_> through browser, anyhow.
[08:18] <josemi> gameness: netstat -aut|grep -i "*:*"
[08:18] <gamesss> i guess apache will run in Port 80
[08:18] <dbernar1_> whats that got to do with printing anyhow:)
[08:18] <josemi> search for your cups listen port
[08:19] <gamesss> josemi, do I paste the result here ?
[08:19] <josemi> as you wish
[08:19] <dbernar1_> http://pastebin.com
[08:19] <dr_willis> http://localhost:631/  - is what cups listens to for its web interface
[08:19] <dbernar1_> josemi:-/
[08:19] <mht> gamesss: try system > administration > printing to setup printer...
[08:19] <dr_willis> however admining from that has been disabled in ubuntu for 'security' issues
[08:19] <josemi> gameness: Dr.Will tells you the port
[08:20] <dbernar1_> dr_willis important insight:)
[08:20] <josemi> dr_wills: thanks for remember the default port
[08:20] <dr_willis> it can be reenabled. if needed however. :)
[08:20] <gamesss> mht,  I tried that way Many many many many times, but the Printer window will just hang-up
[08:20] <black13> where would i find debian source packages for xorg
[08:20] <dr_willis> I got me a little Dlink Print-server the other day for $50 for my old Laserjet. It works like a top. heh heh
[08:20] <mht> gamesss: try it after cups running :)
[08:20] <gamesss> yes
[08:20] <gamesss> i almost run the cups many times also
[08:21] <dbernar1_> black13 apt-source something, I am not in ubuntu now...
[08:21] <josemi> gameness: then go to: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:631
[08:21] <gamesss> and it successfull did a Test print with a large Ubuntu Header and colored blocks
[08:21] <dbernar1_> I like the test print page, nice colors:)
[08:22] <dbernar1_> especially after trying to set up the printer for days,..
[08:22] <stjepan> hi
[08:22] <dbernar1_> bok
[08:22] <gamesss> but when I try to print at OpenOffice, The Printer just says Printer 90 jobs, but the printer doesnt print
[08:22] <gamesss> :(
[08:22] <gamesss> *Printing
[08:22] <dr_willis> Ahh.. Hmm
[08:22] <gamesss> *Printing XX jobs
[08:22] <dr_willis> does other apps print?
[08:22] <josemi> gameness: clean your print queue
[08:22] <stjepan> can I use with Ubuntu, for example, fluxbox, gnome, kde and xfce?
[08:22] <gamesss> I havent try yet...
[08:22] <dbernar1_> yes, stjepan
[08:22] <gamesss> but almost has pending...
[08:22] <gamesss> *all
[08:23] <dr_willis> gamesss,  i recall some issues in the past with Openoffice at times.
[08:23] <gamesss> josemi, that my problem how do I clean the queque
[08:23] <josemi> gameness: kill jobs and try again
[08:23] <josemi> I  think via http it's possible
[08:23] <josemi> or use lprint
[08:23] <dr_willis> check 'lpq' command see if oo is even sending any real print jobs.
[08:23] <james> i keep getting MD5sum mismatches when trying to install ubuntu packages
[08:23] <stjepan> dbernar1_, how?
[08:23] <dbernar1_> stjepan when you boot, you see a login screenm, called gdm in gnome, and kdm in kde...
[08:23] <josemi>  $ lp
[08:23] <josemi> lp           lppasswd     lpr          lprsetup.sh
[08:23] <josemi> lpoptions    lpq          lprm         lpstat
[08:24] <gamesss> how do I kill Jobs? coz when I click Cancel jobs on the Printer Window, it will just hangup
[08:24] <dr_willis> 'lprm'
[08:24] <stjepan> dbernar1_, How will I choose?
[08:24] <gamesss> I cant say my system is low coz its using Pentium 4 3.2 Ghz
[08:24] <dbernar1_> there is a sessions button on it, and lets you select the wm, out of the ones installed. To install something, sudo aptitude something another yetAnother ....
[08:25] <gamesss> DeskJet-3550 is ready and printing
[08:25] <gamesss> Rank    Owner   Job     File(s)                         Total Size
[08:25] <gamesss> active  pnpa    4       Test Page                       153600 bytes
[08:25] <gamesss> 1st     pnpa    5       Untitled1                       235520 bytes
[08:25] <gamesss> 2nd     pnpa    6       Untitled                        235520 bytes
[08:25] <gamesss> 3rd     pnpa    7       Test Page                       153600 bytes
[08:25] <josemi> lp -u user
[08:25] <dbernar1_> james type in /topic as your message to the channel
[08:25] <mht> gamesss: what type when you click at printer setting?
[08:25] <josemi> gameness: lp -u pnpa
[08:25] <Ghetek> pastebin pastebin!!!
[08:25] <dbernar1_> haha
[08:25] <Tritis> Has anyone ever seen PCM under alsa mixer be a toggle instead of a slide bar?  I can't lower volume with it, only mute or unmute.  My chipset is an nforce2 with a CMI9739 intel8x0?
[08:25] <thoreauputic> gamesss: please, don't do that again
[08:25] <mhz> or #flood
[08:25] <josemi> Tritis: use alsamixer
[08:26] <Tritis> josemi: I'm in alsamixer.
[08:26] <gamesss> sorry thoreauputic ....
[08:26] <josemi> or the equivalent under gnome
[08:26] <josemi> Trities: and you can't lower ?
[08:26] <josemi> ... thats rare
[08:26] <gamesss> mht, type ?
[08:26] <thoreauputic> gamesss: #flood or pastebin.ca :)
[08:26] <mhz> gamesss, instead, next time you can do this:  /join #flood
[08:26] <gamesss> oh i remember
[08:26] <gamesss> :)
[08:26] <gamesss> thanks
[08:26] <mhz> np
[08:27] <mhz> been there
[08:27] <Tritis> josemi: screenshot of what alsa mixer looks like to me: http://img217.echo.cx/my.php?image=screenshotmojohomejaknel2ym.png
[08:27] <gamesss> it says in my status window, too many channels open....
[08:27] <dbernar1_> james got it?
[08:27] <gamesss> :D
[08:27] <black13> anyone tried to build xorg on ubuntu
[08:27] <mht> gamesss: when you click printer setting at OOo, what type you got?
[08:27] <mhz> black13, AFAIK, hoarty runs XORG
[08:27] <dbernar1_> black13 it is built into hoary
[08:27] <thoreauputic> black13: can't imagine why anyone would...
[08:27] <james> dbernar1_, yah
[08:27] <black13> curiosity
[08:27] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:28] <mhz> "...killed the cat"
[08:28] <mhz> :D
[08:28] <black13> what version of xorg?
[08:28] <james>           packages
[08:28] <litheum> installing 5.04 fails when selecting the "linux-386" kernel with this error: "dpkg-dev (subprocess): error in buffer_read(stream): failed to write to pipe in copy: Input/output error" any suggestions?
[08:28] <Madpilot> mhz: no, just crashed it's computer.. ;)
[08:28] <black13> 6.8.2
[08:28] <mhz> .oO (there is band with that name)
[08:28] <bob2> litheum: your hard disk is having issues
[08:28] <mhz> Madpilot, LOL