[08:48] <jamespage> gnuoy, https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/charm-helpers/keystone-v3-support/+merge/272355
[08:52] <jamespage> gnuoy, http://www.florentflament.com/blog/setting-keystone-v3-domains.html
[10:09] <urulama> mgz: hey ... could we rung "chicago-cubs" branch against CI please? last run was 2 days ago and it's been there from 9/11 ... now, hm, that date might be a sign by its own :)
[10:09] <urulama> s/rung/run
[10:10] <mgz_> urulama: sure
[10:10] <urulama> mgz: ty
[10:10] <mgz_> master is being tested at present, I can make cubs happen next
[10:11] <urulama> mgz: np
[15:16] <beisner> jamespage, updated n-g tests ready for review/landing @ https://code.launchpad.net/~1chb1n/charms/trusty/neutron-gateway/amulet-update-1508/+merge/271960    plz & thx!
[15:54] <beisner> jamespage, fyi n-ovs tests complete @ https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/charms/trusty/neutron-openvswitch/dkms-12.04/+merge/272390
[16:13] <bdx> beisner: whats up man!? Any thoughts on the new MR? --> https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesbeedy/charms/trusty/nova-compute/next/+merge/272431
[16:14] <beisner> hey bdx !   just wrapping up, going eow soon.   there are functional tests that are automatically queued up to run and report back with any breakage.  once we have lint + unit + amulet results passing, we can turn a human reviewer to it.
[16:15] <beisner> bdx, thanks for retargeting that mp
[16:15] <bdx> sweet. totally. thanks for the heads up!
[16:32] <beisner> np sir!   o/  nice weekend, all
[16:32] <lazypower> cheers beisner, enjoy your weekend
[16:33] <beisner> ditto lazypower !
[16:33] <lazypower> make sure you feed osci some snacks before you go :D
[16:33] <lazypower> !oscisnack
[16:35] <beisner> ha!  i've joked before that it sounds like someone's little puppy name.  but it's eating everyone's lunch already, and has an unhealthy appetite.  #thatqueue
[16:35] <beisner> down, osci, down.
[16:35] <beisner> \o
[16:36]  * lazypower plays rimshot.wav
[17:50] <kwmonroe> service A has 2 units.. when i add a relation between A and B, which private-address does B see?  is it the lowest unit num for A?
[17:55] <marcoceppi> kwmonroe: both private addresses
[17:55] <marcoceppi> kwmonroe: you get a relation-joined on B for each unit of A
[17:56] <kwmonroe> oh - neat!  thx marcoceppi
[17:56] <marcoceppi> realtions are per service, but events are modeled per unit
[19:15] <arosales> may I just say
[19:15] <arosales> watch juju status --format=tabular
[19:15] <arosales> is awesome!
[19:15] <arosales> espeicially when the charms have status
[19:16] <arosales> thank you big data folks
[19:19] <asanjar> you are welcome arosales
[19:20] <arosales> asanjar, :-)
[19:20] <arosales> asanjar, I'll see you next week
[19:21] <asanjar> arosales: definitely ..
[19:22] <arosales> asanjar, excellent. Looking forward to some interesting spark solutions
[19:23] <asanjar> how about some sparkling solution
[21:35] <cholcombe> i'm a bit confused how the charm subordinate works
[21:36] <cholcombe> i declared my charm to be a subordinate of ceph and it says when i add relation that none exists
[21:46] <cholcombe> i think i got it but i'm not sure it's right
[21:51] <marcoceppi> cholcombe: you need to have an interface and scope defined for the subordinate relation
[21:51] <cholcombe> is that defined in the super charm or the subordinate?
[21:52] <marcoceppi> cholcombe: subordinate
[21:52] <cholcombe> ok
[21:52] <marcoceppi> as an example
[21:52] <cholcombe> is it always a container scope?
[21:52] <marcoceppi> yes
[21:52] <cholcombe> so it doesn't matter if it's bare metal, vm, etc.
[21:53] <marcoceppi> cholcombe: scope: container is just a thing that made sense when juju was created before the concept of containers was popular
[21:53] <marcoceppi> scope: unit might be a better name for this now
[21:53] <cholcombe> yeah i agree
[21:53]  * marcoceppi files bug
[21:53] <cholcombe> haha
[21:55] <cholcombe> marcoceppi, if my hook fails to install when i add the subordinate relation can i still do the upgrade force+retry bit to try again?
[21:55] <marcoceppi> cholcombe: I don't see why not
[21:56] <cholcombe> i think juju is confused then
[21:56] <cholcombe> upgrade works but retry fails saying it's not in an error state
[21:56] <marcoceppi> cholcombe: what are you retrying? the subordinate or the primary?
[21:56] <cholcombe> the primary
[21:57] <marcoceppi> cholcombe: what's in error? the subordiante or the primary?
[21:57] <cholcombe> the primary is saying hook failed 'install'
[21:57] <cholcombe> so i tried to attach a subordinate to ceph and the install hook failed
[21:57] <marcoceppi> huh, could you pastebin your juju status output and the commands you're running?
[21:57] <cholcombe> now i'm stuck.  i could trash it but reinstalling ceph is quite slow
[21:57] <cholcombe> yup
[21:58] <cholcombe> marcoceppi, https://pastebin.canonical.com/140643/
[21:59] <marcoceppi> cholcombe: ceph-cephdash isn't in error, ceph-metrics-collector/0 is, run resolved --retry on it
[22:00] <marcoceppi> cholcombe: if you run `juju status --format=tabular` it's easier to consume the output
[22:00] <cholcombe> ah there we go :)
[22:00] <cholcombe> marcoceppi, thanks :)
[22:01] <cholcombe> happy friday dude
[22:01] <marcoceppi> cholcombe: cheers, np!


[06:56] <ara> good morning all!
[09:41] <czajkowski> ara: morning!
[09:42] <ara> morning czajkowski! you've got energy today!
[09:44] <czajkowski> yeah had a nice relaxing weekend
[09:55] <ara> czajkowski, :)
[09:56] <czajkowski> ara: thanks for the help
[09:56] <ara> czajkowski, thanks to you for the report!
[11:00] <davmor2> morning all
[11:19] <ara> morning davmor2
[13:32]  * ara takes a lunch break longer than usual
[13:42] <davmor2> morning fader_ cr3
[13:44] <fader_> davmor2: Howdy dude
[13:45] <davmor2> how's things fader_
[13:45] <fader_> davmor2: Ah, you know life... it's just one darned thing after another ;)
[13:46] <davmor2> fader_: I see your problem step away from the sock needle, buy new socks no need for darning then :)
[13:49] <fader_> :)


[22:32] <kkrauss> wylde, I gave you all the background info lol
[22:32] <cheese1756> goaway: Beyoudn your traffic, I'd assume so. I don't admin any networks, so I'm not really sure
[22:32] <wylde> kkrauss: hmmm I'm not sure that would work. I know now. It's baest to ask anyway lol
[22:32] <wylde> best
[22:32] <goaway> gr33n7007h: no, i'm not connected to my isp at all
[22:32] <kkrauss> wylde, my old dell pc does not boot from usb, I dont have a blank cd currently.  I am trying to figure out ways to install
[22:32] <gr33n7007h> goaway, MAC addr on router is the onlything left behind
[22:32] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: that's what you need
[22:33] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: it says failed to exceute child process
[22:33] <goaway> gr33n7007h: cool :p
[22:33] <wylde> kkrauss: yeah, I'm thinking. Smell the smoke? lol hmmm...
[22:33] <kkrauss> wylde, there is an option on the link you gave me to i nstall from current linux but you have to mess with grub
[22:34] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: your entire operating system is gone, so loading new applications won't work
[22:34] <wylde> kkrauss: do you currently have a working ubuntu computer?
[22:34] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: okay, what is that link you sent me
[22:34] <kkrauss> yah it has like 10 something on it, thats what I was originally going to use back in the day
[22:34] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: it's a link to a livecd that can help you recover some pictures
[22:34] <wylde> kkrauss: and does your old computer support PXE booting? Will it boot from the network card?
[22:34] <kkrauss> but it was a weird install and buggy
[22:35] <kkrauss> yes it will boot from network just not usb, thats what im looking at now is pxe
[22:35] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: but you'll have to use another computer to download and burn it to a cd
[22:35] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: okay thank you, what is a livecd and how do i get it?
[22:35] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: oh okay thank you
[22:35] <kkrauss> wylde, wow didnt expect to ahve to play with my router to do this
[22:35] <wylde> kkrauss: play with your router?
[22:35] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: i am afraid i don't have another computer! thank you so much for your help :(
[22:36] <kkrauss> wylde, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[22:36] <wylde> kkrauss: oh dhcp
[22:36] <kkrauss>  wylde network install looks petty intense lol
[22:36] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: you should turn your computer off soon, though, so it doesn't get worse
[22:37] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: you'll have to do it manually, by holding down the button. but write down that url
[22:37] <goaway> gr33n7007h: cheese1756: how about traces left behind on my computer? like a history of what networks i've been connected to?
[22:37] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: but the blinking line is gone
[22:38] <gr33n7007h> goaway, you can manually remove them
[22:38] <wylde> kkrauss: moment. I've not done a PXE installer setup. But it's not exceptionally different from my LTSP setup. (I have 2 computers the have no hard disk and bott and run entirely off the server)
[22:38] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: your filesystem is journaled which means it's making records of changes
[22:38] <goaway> gr33n7007h: where can i find them?
[22:38] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: okay thank you what does that mean
[22:38] <wylde> wow, I think my fingers are drunk >.< I'm sure you get what I meant at least
[22:38] <gr33n7007h> what network manager are you using
[22:39] <cheese1756> goaway: Usually, yes
[22:39] <cheese1756> You could use something like TAILS, too
[22:39] <cheese1756> Or another LiveCD
[22:39] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: it means that some of the data will be more difficult to recover the longer that it's on
[22:39] <kkrauss> wylde, well ill be back I have to take a shower then go to walmart then im good
[22:40] <goaway> gr33n7007h: whatever the default nm in bt5r2 is
[22:40] <gr33n7007h> goaway, wicd then
[22:40] <wylde> kkrauss: no problem. I browse through that and see if I can make it a bit more straight forward for you.
[22:40] <goaway> cheese1756: where can i read about tails?
[22:40] <wylde> I'll
[22:40] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: okay thank you, will my facebook be back when i turn it back on
[22:40] <cheese1756> goaway: Distrowatch would be a good first start
[22:40] <cheese1756> Then check their website
[22:40] <vlt> Hello. How can I install a package (with apt or aptitude) without (re)starting any processes? (Similar to what `debootstrap --include` does.)
[22:40] <cheese1756> It's just a LiveCD, like an Ubuntu LiveCD
[22:41] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: your facebook is hosted online, so it won't be affected
[22:41] <goaway> cheese1756: oh, nevermind then :p
[22:41] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: if that's where your pictures are then you don't have to worry about it
[22:41] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: but when i click the icon for facebook, it says 'failed to excete child process'
[22:41] <gr33n7007h> goaway, Is this someone elses network by any chance?
[22:41] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: no my pictures were in 'pictures' and now i can't open 'pictures' :(
[22:41] <cheese1756> goaway: Naturally, check the laws of your home country and make sure you aren't violating them
[22:41] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: the program you used to access facebook is gone, but facebook is still online
[22:42] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: okay are you sure
[22:42] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: you wouldn't happen to still have them on a camera or something would you?
[22:42] <goaway> gr33n7007h: i'm not doing anything malicious. just asking out of curiosity!
[22:42] <lostogre_> where is dlm_pcmk?
[22:42] <lostogre_> I need dlm_controld.pcmk and I cannot find it!
[22:42] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: yes, you can access facebook from any computer by going to facebook.com
[22:43] <goaway> cheese1756: it's an open wifi network :p
[22:43] <gr33n7007h> goaway, ok no probs anyway
[22:43] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: no my son deleted the camera :(
[22:43] <goaway> i just don't like traces
[22:43] <mneptok> goaway: Backtrack is not supported here.
[22:43] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: deleted the data on the camera? or the camera icon
[22:43] <waxstone> im experiencing the bug mentioned here http://www.wiredrevolution.com/ubuntu/fix-blue-tinted-video-in-ubuntu im trying to fix by turning off "Enable hardware accelaration" in flash player but the checkbox cannot be unchecked
[22:43] <mneptok> !backtrack | goaway
[22:43] <goaway> mneptok: go away! nice people are already answering my questions...
[22:44] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: deleted the photos on my camera card, then he put lots of pictures of penis on it from the internet :(
[22:44] <lostogre_> What happened to the dlm-pcmk package in precise?
[22:44] <mneptok> goaway: those are the rules that everyone must follow.
[22:44] <goaway> i'm not asking about backtrack
[22:44] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: he said it was a joke
[22:44] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: some of those may be recoverable too if it's not full
[22:45] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: the original pictures i mean
[22:45] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: the penis? i deleted them all
[22:46] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: because i had no space left on the camera for new photos, it said 'memory full' so i deleted all the penis, then it didn't say 'memory full' anymore
[22:46] <goaway> gr33n7007h: so the history can be accessed from within the network manager?
[22:46] <mneptok> goaway: 16:40 < goaway> gr33n7007h: whatever the default nm in bt5r2 is
[22:46] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: getting them off the computer will be easier than the camera, in that case
[22:47] <gr33n7007h> ^^^^
[22:47] <mneptok> goaway: that looks like you're asking about Backtrack. please move your question to #backtrack-linux
[22:47] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: okay
[22:47] <cheese1756> beatiful_sora: I hope you disciplined your son pretty strongly for all this
[22:47] <goaway> mneptok: wow there must be a sale on high horses these days
[22:48] <beatiful_sora> cheese1756: for the penis or the blinking line?
[22:48] <cheese1756> Both
[22:48] <cheese1756> By blinking line, I assume you mean rm -rf /?
[22:48] <mneptok> goaway: i am asking nicely. i do not want to actually saddle up.
[22:48] <beatiful_sora> cheese1756: yes that
[22:48] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: you should consider getting a flash drive to store your pictures on in the future
[22:48] <goaway> mneptok: you already got your chaps on
[22:48] <ikonia> ok, I'm getting bored with this now
[22:48] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: that no one else knows about
[22:49] <beatiful_sora> cheese1756: also the other day he set the microwave on fire! i am at a wits end!
[22:49] <gr33n7007h> goaway, delete the wicd logs
[22:49] <cheese1756> beatiful_sora: Sorry if this was already asked, but do you have backups?
[22:49] <beatiful_sora> cheese1756: i am afraid not :(
[22:49] <cheese1756> beatiful_sora: You might want to purchase an external USB drive in the future, about double your hard drive space should be fine. I learned that the hard way
[22:50] <waxstone> Hi need help. Im experiencing the bug mentioned here http://www.wiredrevolution.com/ubuntu/fix-blue-tinted-video-in-ubuntu im trying to fix by turning off "Enable hardware accelaration" in flash player but the checkbox cannot be unchecked
[22:50] <lostogre_> What happened to the dlm-pcmk package in precise?
[22:50] <cheese1756> waxstone: That happened to me too
[22:50] <cheese1756> When I restarted later on, the box was accessible
[22:50] <lostogre_> It says it was superseded by another package, but that package doesn't exist either.
[22:51] <beatiful_sora> cheese1756: i have a usb stick, is this correct
[22:52] <cheese1756> beatiful_sora: What I typically do is I backup my most important files to Dropbox, a USB stick, and an external hard drive, then I'll back up the slightly less important stuff to the USB drive, then just about everything to the external one
[22:52] <cheese1756> In addition to syncing some folders between computers
[22:53] <beatiful_sora> cheese1756: okay my usb stick also was filled with penis by my son :(
[22:53] <waxstone> in ubuntu 12.04 why is Abode Flash Player settings disabled?
[22:54] <beatiful_sora> cheese1756: he has done this to my camera and usb and phone and digital photo frame!
[22:54] <kkrauss> beatiful_sora, wtf ware you talking about
[22:54] <cheese1756> beatiful_sora: You might want to password protect access to your computer, and maybe try to identify why your son is acting this way, taking him to help if necessary
[22:54] <cheese1756> If you haven't already
[22:54] <beatiful_sora> kkrauss: my son did it :(
[22:54] <beatiful_sora> cheese1756: he said it was a joke :(
[22:54] <kkrauss> your usb stick was filled with male genitalia by your son?
[22:54] <supadiva> waxtone, it's not disabled, just glitch
[22:55] <waxstone> supadiva, how to i kick this glitch in the nuts?
[22:55] <beatiful_sora> kkrauss: yes and my camera and phone and digital frame :(
[22:55] <waxstone> !topic beatiful_sora
[22:55] <cheese1756> waxstone: It worked for me later on
[22:55] <waxstone> !ot beatiful_sora
[22:55] <kkrauss> how old is your son?
[22:55] <aleprovencio> hello guys, can i map 'key to show the launcher' to any key combination which does not involve the <super> key?
[22:55] <cheese1756> After a reboot or two, the option was available
[22:55] <beatiful_sora> kkrauss: he is 15
[22:55] <supadiva> waxtone, there is a flash setting applet in your launchpad
[22:55] <cheese1756> Yeah, way too old to think that that is funny
[22:56] <cheese1756> And just a joke
[22:56] <kkrauss> beatiful_sora, so this is what you do, you go lock him and yourself in a room together, and tell him you are going to play a little joke on him.  Then you beat him to within an inch of his life, adn then ask him if that was funny.
[22:56] <kkrauss> !parenting :)
[22:56] <supadiva> waxtone, just type "flash" for search
[22:57] <beatiful_sora> kkrauss: i do not think he would find that funny :(
[22:57] <kkrauss> beatiful_sora, thats the point!!! beat that kids ass!
[22:57] <waxstone> supadiva,  not seeing anything under flash or adobe for settings
[22:58] <kkrauss> beatiful_sora, if I did that to a parent, I would b e knocked out on a daily basis for more days than I'd remember
[22:58] <gr33n7007h> Is ubuntu more widespread than windows in the states??
[22:58] <supadiva> waxtone, there is a "dash" icon on the upper left of screen
[22:58] <IdleOne> !ot | gr33n7007h
[22:58] <beatiful_sora> kkrauss: he also has deleted all the tv channels except 'gay chat and date'
[22:58] <waxstone> supadiva, just the plugin itself im in 12.04
[22:58] <kkrauss> beatiful_sora, I am starting to think you are just trolling
[22:58] <supadiva> waxtone, O.o
[22:59] <IdleOne> beatiful_sora: Please keep the comments in here support related, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[22:59] <waxstone> !ot beatiful_sora
[22:59] <kkrauss> beatiful_sora, actually I am sure of it, because you are being very explicit, and you arent in the middle of beating that kdis ass like a real parent would
[22:59] <beatiful_sora> kkrauss: i don't know what this means, sorry :(
[22:59] <waxstone> !ot | beatiful_sora
[22:59] <supadiva> waxtone, wow, my the last flash is installed by hand
[22:59] <beatiful_sora> kkrauss: oh no i have already told him off!
[22:59] <gchristensen> Hi, is there a way with Upstart to run as an unpriveleged user? Or do I still need to hack it with  -s /bin/sh -c 'exec "$0" "$@"' username -- /path/to/command [parameters...]
[22:59] <beatiful_sora> ubottu: sorry, i will talk about ubuntu
[22:59] <vlt> IdleOne: gr33n7007h’s question was about bug #1 from the Ubuntu bugtracker ;-)
[22:59] <kkrauss> ok well beatiful_sora telling a kid off is not the same as beating their ass
[23:00] <IdleOne> vlt: which is offtopic and not support related.
[23:00] <kkrauss> id burn that kids face off with the kitchen stove for that
[23:00] <IdleOne> kkrauss: Please take the conversation elsewhere.
[23:00] <waxstone> !ot | kkrauss
[23:00] <beatiful_sora> kkrauss: i don't think i should use physical force
[23:00] <maheanuu> I have a question, would I be better off downloading Ubuntu 12.XX the one that is most stable of the new ones and replacing my 10.04.4 64 bit LTS  that I have installed at present
[23:00] <supadiva> waxtone, i don't trust the flash install helper of 12.04
[23:00] <cheese1756> kkrauss: Violence is never the answer
[23:00] <beatiful_sora> kkrauss: but i will ground him very strongly
[23:00] <kkrauss> well good luck, I suggest you google how to password protect your data
[23:00] <kkrauss> LMFAO
[23:00] <cheese1756> What can be done with violence can be done with a more lasting effect with talking
[23:00] <kkrauss> tell that to a 15 year old kid who just did what he claims
[23:00] <waxstone> !ops beatiful_sora  kkrauss
[23:00] <kkrauss> that is a falsehood
[23:00] <kkrauss> a proven falshood
[23:01] <waxstone> !ops | beatiful_sora  kkrauss
[23:01] <ikonia> stop now
[23:01] <kkrauss> but the channel is getting way off topic so moving along
[23:01] <beatiful_sora> kkrauss: i just clicked the internet, but it says, failed to execute child process
[23:01] <beatiful_sora> sorry i will remain on topic!
[23:01] <vlt> maheanuu: Better than what?
[23:01] <cheese1756> beatiful_sora: Nothing will execute, since it has all been deleted
[23:02] <cheese1756> Do you have another computer available?
[23:02] <beatiful_sora> chees1756: okay, is there a way i can fix this?
[23:02] <maheanuu> Better than 10.04.4
[23:02] <lorddelta> Greetings, I have severe pulseaudio problems; what is the procedure to follow to fix these days? By severe, I mean; pulseaudio and my hardware drivers don't get along all of a sudden, after working decently well in 10.04-11.10, running 12.04. I have sound cards, alsa is all set up correctly, as far as I can tell, it seems my issue is that I cannot select my sound card as the pulseaudio driver. Should I just
[23:02] <lorddelta> get rid of this **** by the name of pulseaudio? Why do I need it?
[23:02] <cheese1756> By the way, do you want to salvage the data?
[23:02] <cheese1756> Or do you not care about it?
[23:02] <kkrauss> beatiful_sora, I suggest you first go and beat that kids ass, and then tell him to fix what he did.
[23:02] <beatiful_sora> cheese1756: i am afraid not, but there is a laptop if that helps
[23:02] <ikonia> lorddelta: drop the language
[23:02] <maheanuu> vit, the above was meant for you sorry I will get rite from now on
[23:02] <cheese1756> Yeah, a laptop will work
[23:02] <lorddelta> ikonia: I did. Self sensored.
[23:02] <cheese1756> For now, start downloading Ubuntu on that computer
[23:02] <cheese1756> Do you have a blank CD available?
[23:03] <ikonia> lorddelta: if you have to star a word out - don't use it
[23:03] <beatiful_sora> cheese1756: okay, how do i do that
[23:03] <cheese1756> Or a blank USB drive
[23:03] <IdleOne> lorddelta: if you need to * things out, don't say them.
[23:03] <cheese1756> Oh wait, yeah, you do have a blank USB drive
[23:03] <beatiful_sora> cheese1756: yes, although my son has filled it with penis, does this matter?
[23:04] <cheese1756> You will need to format it anyway to install Ubuntu. Was there anything important on it?
[23:04] <vlt> !who | maheanuu
[23:04] <cheese1756> !CoC
[23:04] <lorddelta> ...great, I guess I'll have to go fix it by myself, as usuall. I apologize for the language. If it helps anyone else though, I think there may be a kernel level issue...I don't know how. But I'm pretty sure whatever is messing with pulseaudio completely crashed the entire system. I had to reboot after it crashed.
[23:05] <vlt> maheanuu: Well, “better” as in newer or more stable or easier to use or more suited for older machines or older users …?
[23:05] <cheese1756> lorddelta: Do you want to set a card as default in Alsa?
[23:05] <maheanuu> vit, I am running 10.04.4 64 bit now on this notebook, but I am having sound and skype problems eversince the re install of 10.04.4
[23:05] <lorddelta> cheese1756: No. I want to set it as default in pulseaudio...
[23:05] <lorddelta> cheese1756: its already default in alsa.
[23:06] <cheese1756> Oh, ok
[23:06] <vlt> maheanuu: My suggestion would be: Install 12.04 to a separate area of the disk and try whether it works better for your needs. (It’s “vlt”, btw.)
[23:07] <maheanuu> vit, I am running a Toshiba Satellite A355D 64 bit laptop and was running 9 and 10 on it before I had a major drive failure and had to do a complete reiinstall
[23:07] <maheanuu> vltOk, couldn't see it in the gold lettering looked like an i to me
[23:09] <maheanuu> I think that I will download the live version if they have it and drop it on a usb device and then do a live and see...   My problem is getting all the Flash and Audio/Video stuff working again....   So far with 10.04 I lose skype and audio regularly for no reason that I can determine
[23:10] <lorddelta> maheanuu: Yay driver bugs.
[23:11] <waxstone> in ubuntu 12.04 why is Abode Flash Player settings disabled?
[23:11] <maheanuu> lorddelta, exactly!!!
[23:11] <waxstone> Hi need help. Im experiencing the bug mentioned here http://www.wiredrevolution.com/ubuntu/fix-blue-tinted-video-in-ubuntu im trying to fix by turning off "Enable hardware accelaration" in flash player but the checkbox cannot be unchecked
[23:11] <maheanuu> Damn!!!  Here I am rapidly descending into my 2nd childhood, and I need more and more puzzles???
[23:12] <maheanuu> At this rate, alzheimers will never have a chance
[23:12] <HBX> lubuntu 12.04 is amazingly fast
[23:13] <maheanuu> HBX, But does it play well with the outside stuffs?
[23:13] <HBX> as in?
[23:14] <HBX> runs fine for me
[23:14] <maheanuu> Skype, Flash Media,
[23:14] <HBX> yup
[23:14] <HBX> i run it on my 12 inch netbook
[23:14] <HBX> runs amazingly well
[23:15] <maheanuu> I have had nothing but problems since I installed 10.04.4 LTS
[23:15] <HBX> thats ancient
[23:15] <HBX> install 12.04
[23:15] <maheanuu> You are making a very good point and I am liking what I am hearing
[23:15] <waxstone> !lifetime
[23:16] <HBX> you can always later add the PPA for mediubuntu
[23:16] <HBX> and install all your media accessories
[23:16] <maheanuu> Is it possible to drop it over the 10.04 and not worry about having to reload all the stuff on the root that is there now
[23:16] <xiamx> how long does it take for an uploaded ppa package to become available?
[23:16] <ClientAlive> does anyone know a way to make a vm boot from the hard drive? I'm using virt-manager and kvm but I'm cool with the command line if that's what works.
[23:17] <ikonia> ClientAlive: what do you mean, make it boot from the hard drive ?
[23:17] <rile_bre> hello .avery boot ..have some problems . internal erorr.  avery time .( i do not give up on ubuntu yet .but is making me for simple task man still not there yet . and any one  can hellp me to watch netflix on ubuntu  thru wine or ...how can i make dumy silverlight .playere
[23:17] <ikonia> ClientAlive: you mean an existing partition with an OS on
[23:18] <HBX> honestly maheanuu i'd just backup what you need and do a clean install
[23:18] <DarwinSurvivor> HBX: people still use medibuntu?
[23:18] <HBX> don't see why not
[23:19] <waxstone> Need help with 12.04; Im experiencing the bug mentioned here http://www.wiredrevolution.com/ubuntu/fix-blue-tinted-video-in-ubuntu im trying to fix
[23:20] <DarwinSurvivor> HBX: what do they use it for? libdvdcss is available in the normal repos now, as is flashplayer. and the mp3 stuff can be pre-installed (just a checkbox)
[23:20] <HBX> yup
[23:20] <HBX> webup8.org has an updated ppa
[23:21] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: please provide details about what you did and any errors/problems you encountered
[23:21] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor, I tried all the all the solutions listed none work. cannot chenge settings in flash player
[23:22] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor,  i.e. right clicking on video-->settings
[23:22] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: so you followed the instructions without getting any errors (appears to have been fixed), but the video is still blue?
[23:23] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: "cannot change" tells me nothing. did right-click not work, was the option not there (or grayed out), did it make no difference, etc?
[23:23] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor, correct. all except the one for the flash player i tried without success
[23:23] <skulltip> somehow, in both unity and unity 2d, 12.04  - the top menu went from the top bar of the screen back to the top bar of the application, being qtcreator.. wonder if i hit something
[23:23] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor,  the checkbox cannot be unchecked in the flash settings
[23:24] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: ok, so is the color fixed in everything except flash now?
[23:24] <skulltip> the File, Edit, Build.. moved from the top panel to the top of the application as it normally would be.
[23:24] <ClientAlive> I got it. thx anway
[23:24] <ClientAlive> :)
[23:24] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor, color has always worked in everthing except videos like on youtube
[23:25] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor, red shows as blue
[23:25] <krababbel> waxstone: google libvdpau1 flash blue
[23:26] <ClientAlive> ikonia: sorry for the delay. I'm trying to install windows 7 as a kvm virtual machine (except it's the upgrade edition) - I know, pretty crazy eh??  :) I do have ubuntu 12.04 server as the host though so figured it was ok to ask here. It's a complicated mess but I think I've found a way - lol
[23:27] <waxstone> The workaround works for me on nvidia 295.40.
[23:27] <waxstone> Although the flash player becomes very unstable as others have reported, and it crashes *very* often for me. Disabling hardware acceleration from inside the flash player is also a workaround, by right-clicking the flash player and selecting Settings -- if one wants to keep libvdpau1 for other purposes (like mplayer2/xbmc/etc), for example.
[23:27] <waxstone> ^^ according to a post on the site
[23:28] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: ok, so it is the "blue flash" problem.
 Is that dude with the Flash player issue still there? I just remembered, tell him to open a Flash video in full screen, THEN go into settings and disable hardware acceleration. I had the same problem once, that sorted it for me
[23:28] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor, yes a flash issue . is there a stable solution?
[23:29] <wawowe> think that was for you waxstone
[23:29] <crewza> Haroou
[23:29] <Prodigal> I'm running ubuntu on VirtualMachine - how do i turn on the wireless connection through my host?
[23:29] <bobweaver> Prodigal,  go to settings _> network
[23:29] <malkauns_> u dont
[23:30] <skulltip> here is what I mean:  http://inky.ws/g/1jk
[23:30] <waxstone> fullscreen worked!!!!
[23:30] <skulltip> and in unity 3d, i can't find xchat anywhere.. have to alt-tab to try to find it
[23:30] <SeaPhor> Prodigal: thats a question to be asked in your VM app's irc
[23:30] <waxstone> wawowe, thank you
[23:31] <waxstone> if anyone has this issue the solution in disabling hardware accelaration but htis can ONLY be done with the video at fullscreen
[23:32] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: only at fullscreen, interresting.
[23:32] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor,  definite bug. you cannot uncheck or access settings successfully unless at fullscreen
[23:32] <ClientAlive> there is one annoying thing though that I haven't been able to solve. When I run an installation using virt-manager, after a while the computer goes into hybernation or something no matter if you move the mouse or press a key or what you do. When you come back out of hybernation virt-manager is no longer displayed on the screen (or even my window manager or x for that matter). Instead, a tty session is. The problem is that when this occur
[23:32] <ClientAlive> s in the middle of installation there is no way that I know of to get back to virt-manager and the installation in order to continue with it.
[23:32] <ClientAlive> what do I do?
[23:32] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: well, good to hear it's fixed. as for the bug, only Adobe can fix that
[23:34] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor, im going to test on another machine, it might be ubuntu's developer version of firefox
[23:34] <ClientAlive> is there some way to dissable hybernation from the command line?
[23:38] <gr33n7007h> ClientAlive, what ubuntu do you use
[23:38] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor,  not an issue on firefox for windows
[23:39] <waxstone> is there a ubuntu developer channel?
[23:39] <DarwinSurvivor> ClientAlive: do you mean "prevent any user from using it" or "prevent auto-hibernation while SSH'ing into the machine"?
[23:39] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: I'm sure it's not a firefox issue, but a flash issue (flash for windows is WAY different than flash for linux)
[23:40] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor, ok cool
[23:40] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: I don't *know* of a developer channel, Canonical doesn't actually have very many developers, and those it does have usually use project-specific (ex: Unity) channels
[23:40] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: what did you want to talk to them about (I will be able to better direct you if I know the background of the question)
[23:41] <fosburg> what would be the reason 'draftsight' a drafting application won't load on version 12.04?
[23:42] <DarwinSurvivor> fosburg: unless I'm mistaken, isn't that a windows application?
[23:42] <DarwinSurvivor> fosburg: and a beta at that...?
[23:42] <fosburg> its for linux, windows and OS10
[23:43] <DarwinSurvivor> fosburg: could you provide a link? The only reference I see is for a windows version :(
[23:43] <fosburg> yes it is a bata
[23:43] <civilianpoppy> exit
[23:43] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor, no issue in another version of linux(ubuntu Derivative). I just wanted to mention this solution in case it helps solve this bug for other users
[23:43] <fosburg> give me a minute
[23:43] <DarwinSurvivor> fosburg: oh, nvm, it's just the button that only says windows.
[23:44] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: the developers are well aware of the issue and there is nothing they can do about it since flash is 100% closed source. Only Adobe can fix it and they have been very clear that linux will only receive *security* updates from now on
[23:45] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: the reason you are only getting the problem in 12.04 is because 12.04 has the newer flash version (older ones have potential security holes anyways)
[23:45] <fosburg> www.3ds.com/DownloadDraftSight  is where I did the update
[23:45] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor,  ok thanks for the information and for your help
[23:45] <DarwinSurvivor> fosburg: Did you install it from the repos, or the .deb file on their website?
[23:46] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: no problem
[23:47] <fosburg> it was the .deb (was noted for Ubuntu) and I used the software center to install
[23:47] <DarwinSurvivor> fosburg: ok, looks like it's not in the repos, so you must have used the .deb from the site
[23:47] <fosburg> yes I did
[23:47] <DarwinSurvivor> fosburg: ok, can you please tell us *exactly* what error messages you are getting or what strange behaviour you are observing?
[23:47] <DarwinSurvivor> !details
[23:48] <fosburg> I cant remember the error message I saw Once--but it would start to install and then just stop
[23:49] <fosburg> do you think that the application has not been upgraded to 12.04?
[23:49] <DarwinSurvivor> fosburg: ok, so the issue is that it won't even install. Unfortunately, without knowing what the error message was, there's not much we can do. Can you try installing it again and record the error message?
[23:50] <DarwinSurvivor> fosburg: that's a question only the developers can answer unfortunately
[23:50] <DarwinSurvivor> fosburg: if you can poste the output, I may be able to determine if it is looking for 11.10 libraries
[23:50] <fosburg> Thanks--I will try to install again and copy the air message
[23:51] <DarwinSurvivor> fosburg: can you install from the command line? It will provide a LOT more information
[23:51] <DarwinSurvivor> "sudo dpkg -i name_of_package.deb"
[23:51] <fosburg> I probably won't get back to you until tomorrow---about this time
[23:52] <fosburg> thanks again for the feed back
[23:53] <jcao219> my friend is having a curious problem with the installer
[23:53] <jcao219> i will show you a screenshot, but basically the installer does not show certain text, but when you take a screenshot of it, it will show it in the screenshot
[23:54] <t-mart> how can I replace 12.04 unity's shell interface with standard gdm (like back in 10.04-ish)? i've found information on removing all the unity packages, but i'm wondering if i actually need to do something so extreme. is there setting i can just toggle, etc?
[23:54] <jcao219> Here's the really curious screenshot:   http://i.imgur.com/GaEGg.jpg
[23:55] <xangua> !nounity | t-mart
[23:55] <t-mart> sorry * like 11.04
[23:56] <DarwinSurvivor> t-mart: if you are talking about gnome-2 (gdm is actually the login screen), then gnome-2 no longer exists (it was discontinued by its own developers in favor of gnome-shell)
[23:56] <Nod51_> Problem: I bought a AMD Turion X2 Dual-Core Mobile RM-75 / ATI RV710 laptop from a friend that will white screen (but still run fine) randomly in Linux or Windows(XP/7), but I decided to use it as a server. Everything was working fine till I tried to scp from from my current server over at shich point I get: "Corrupted MAC on input." "Disconnecting: Packet corrupt" "lost connection". Network wires are good, but if I run 1 or more CPU intensive tasks, say bur
[23:56] <Nod51_> nK7 or memtester, scp works fine. I tried: -running a 3 day memtest (all pass between the white screens) - changing the ram - disabled CPU scaling at 2200mhz (it's max) or 1ghz but no change. If I have it at 2200mhz and run 2 burnK7 it will shutdown in around a minute.
[23:56] <t-mart> DarwinSurvivor, mmm. yea, i am talking about gnome-2
[23:56] <DarwinSurvivor> jcao219: can you also post a screenshot (for comparison of to photo)?
[23:57] <jcao219> DarwinSurvivor, the screenshot is in the photo
[23:57] <t-mart> and thanks xangua
[23:57] <jcao219> he pulls it up in the picture viewer
[23:57] <BentFranklin> Installed Ubuntu Server on a machine.  It's repos don't know emacs.  Any reason I can't just teach it the normal ubuntu repos and go ahead and install emacs?
[23:57] <DarwinSurvivor> t-mart: well, as I said, gnome-2 is dead. There are a couple forks, but they are not yet ready. Feel free to try gnome-shell, kde, xfce, or lmde (xfce and lmde are fairly traditional)
[23:57] <DarwinSurvivor> jcao219: so it is :P
[23:58] <SeaPhor> or try Mint
[23:58] <ClientAlive> DarwinSurvivor: sorry for the delay - was googling for answers  :)  My Ubuntu 12.04 installation is just the host system for virtualization. It should never, ever hybernate, suspend, do any kind of screensaver or any other thing like that. I'm not certain what the cause of my aformentioned symptoms are but I know any things like that should either not exist (preferably) or be off.
[23:58] <jcao219> very strange, he's going to restart and try again
[23:58] <DarwinSurvivor> jcao219: have him do that. If it happens again, *please* file a bug report as that's a fairly serious problem (especially for the installer)
[23:59] <jcao219> alright, i'll make sure to tell him that
[23:59] <t-mart> DarwinSurvivor, ok. just really haven't gotten used to the apple-like application-menu-in-top-taskbar thing and what i consider awkward window resizing
[23:59] <LoOoD> Hey all, have a question. So in ubuntu 10.04/lucid I have ldap working with ssh/sudo. But with ubuntu 12.04/precise, only ssh works. When I do a "getent group groupname" in precise, the group name/id displays but no members are lists. In lucid getent return the grouname/id and the members. ANy ideas what I'm missing?
[23:59] <DarwinSurvivor> ClientAlive: if you just want to stop it from doing it automatically, just go into system settings -> power and turn it off :)