[08:55] <davidcalle> dholbach: I'm doing a round of link checking/fixing, ping me if you need any reviews/staging work
[09:19] <dholbach> davidcalle, I should be fine for now
[09:27] <davidcalle> Holy &%*a, my link checker has just passed the 1 000 000 checked links for this run and it's not over. How large is this website?
[09:28] <dholbach> we're a link farm
[09:28] <dholbach> <3
[09:28] <dholbach> maybe some kind of crazy recursion somewhere?
[09:31] <davidcalle> dholbach: that's possible, we'll see :) I'm also generating a dot map of the data at the same time, to have a site map "before" the big IA change and have a way to show very clearly what has changed.
[09:36] <dholbach> nice
[09:36] <dholbach> although it'll probably be hard to see something in the ocean of one million dots
[09:42] <davidcalle> I wasn't expecting it, yeah, we'll see :)
[11:35] <dholbach> davidcalle, do we have the new management command up and running on staging?
[11:36] <davidcalle> dholbach: not yet, do you want me to give it a try?
[11:36] <dholbach> yeah, I think that'd be nice
[11:59] <davidcalle> Deploying
[12:08] <dholbach> woohoo
[13:37] <davidcalle> dholbach: the deployment was blocked on robin (see #community), now it just timed out because a machine was not fully ready. Please hold on :)
[14:05] <davidcalle> dholbach: done
[14:05]  * davidcalle tries the shiny
[14:19] <dholbach> davidcalle, awesome


[08:19] <dholbach> good morning
[08:45] <justin_time> dholbach: I've updated the tomahawk branch (LP: #1487729) could you review it again? What I have to do next?
[08:47] <dholbach> I'm not sure if I'll have time to review this today
[08:47] <dholbach> I hope somebody else will be able to take a look at it though
[08:50] <justin_time> dholbach: hmm ok, I'm worry that I'm running out of time… :(
[08:52] <dholbach> yeah, I know... but I'm not the only one who can potentially review things
[08:53] <dholbach> maybe send a mail to ubuntu-motu@ or ubuntu-devel-discuss@?
[08:53] <dholbach> sorry, but I'm going to have a lot of things on my list today
[08:54] <justin_time> dholbach: I know this is not your fault, I asked you because you are the only one who answered me… I'll write some emails.
[08:54] <dholbach> great :)
[13:58] <roaksoax> /qu/win 4


[17:24] <[diablo]> Good evening #ubuntu-server ..
[17:25] <[diablo]> guys a friend of mine is about to clean install an old server he has. He's going to install 18.04 server...  Is ZFS fully supported please?
[17:26] <[diablo]> for a mirror of two drives ... will hold data, pictures, movies, music etc
[17:26] <[diablo]> not ZFS for the OS
[19:19] <mason> [diablo]: Yeah, that's easy enough to do. Do your installation using up 30G or so of each drive, standard MD-RAID1/LUKS/LVM, and you can have a big partition at the end of each disk for LUKS->ZFS or straight ZFS, mirrored either way.
[19:19] <mason> [diablo]: Something I like to do with LUKS is use two key slots, so I can have one key in the (encrypted) root, say, /etc/keys or something, and one keyslot dedicated to a passphrase I can type should I somehow lose access to the keys.
[19:20] <[diablo]> hi mason sorry I did Google and found it's fully supported
[19:20] <mason> Yep.
[19:20] <[diablo]> :)
[19:20] <[diablo]> for this no encryption will be required
[19:20] <mason> [diablo]: The trick is that the installer doesn't help you with it, so you'll probably end up doing a dual-stage install.
[19:20] <[diablo]> I use ZFS on FreebSD...
[19:20] <[diablo]> so I wanted to embrace it for my mates box..
[19:20] <mason> Good idea.
[19:21] <[diablo]> cheers for replying tho
[19:21] <mason> FreeBSD and Ubuntu are very similar in terms of how they support ZFS, with the caveat that GRUB can't easily deal with all of it without a ton of handholding.
[19:21] <[diablo]> enjoy your weekend
[19:21] <mason> Already on that.
[19:22] <[diablo]> his install for OS is regular EXT4 and LVM...
[19:22] <mason> On MD-RAID1?
[19:22] <[diablo]> just the RAID mirror I wanna put on  ZFS
[19:22] <[diablo]> OS is just 1 x SSD
[19:22] <mason> You're not going to run ZFS on the MD-RAID are you?
[19:22] <mason> ah
[19:22] <[diablo]> no no... the old spinning rust drives will be vaped to ZFS and mirrored
[19:23] <mason> kk
[19:23] <[diablo]> :)
[19:23] <mason> FWIW, I also like using GPT and specifying vdevs using GPT labels. Very, very easy, consistent, trouble-free.
[19:23] <mason> Consistent between FreeBSD and Ubuntu even.
[19:24] <mason> My last gushing recommendation will be thinking about using the Linux EFI stub loader, because then you can do away with GRUB entirely. I keep copies of my kernels and initrds in my ESP and boot Linux directly, no bootloader, with mirrored/native-encrypted (or LUKS for older Ubuntu) ZFS root. Good stuff.
[19:25] <mason> Of course, if you do that you're moving away from what the shipped installer can handle, but, eh.
[19:25] <mason> Anyway, on to the weekend-enjoyment phase. You have a good one too.
[19:35] <[diablo]> mason cheers, I might do that
[19:35] <[diablo]> all the best
[20:55] <ChmEarl> trying to boot `eoan-live-server-amd64.iso` in qemu with kvm.. I get a frozen window and the language menu never appears, while the disco ISO instantly gives this
[20:55] <ChmEarl> using qemu-4.1 on Debian buster
[21:19] <compdoc> do you use virt-manager?
[21:26] <ChmEarl> compdoc, no, I use cmdline
[21:27] <ChmEarl> compdoc, it seems that qemu-4.2 has this fixed with a new kconfig for CONFIG_LZ4
[21:35] <ChmEarl> https://src.fedoraproject.org/lookaside/pkgs/qemu/qemu-4.2.0-rc1.tar.xz/
[21:39] <mybalzitch> stupid bugs
[22:00] <ChmEarl> looked over the qemu-4.2* tree and there is nothing new for lz4 in ./configure
[22:01] <ChmEarl> only the u-boot: roms/u-boot/lib/lz4.c


[06:43] <duflu> RAOF: When would you estimate the majority of transitions to yakkety would finish?
[06:43] <RAOF> What do you mean?
[06:44] <duflu> RAOF: I mean when do you reckon the floor and mountains would stop moving
[06:44] <RAOF> Oh, roughly now.
[06:44] <duflu> Hmm, OK. Might switch soon
[06:45] <RAOF> Oh, I don't think gcc-6 is default yet. That's the last piece of outstanding foundation change I know of.
[06:45] <duflu> Sounds like a big one
[06:45] <duflu> Usually is
[06:46] <RAOF> Well, mir already builds with it :)
[06:46] <duflu> Cool, but we also depend on a whole archive that needs to work too
[06:47] <RAOF> Well, my laptop is fine with it (at the moment).
[06:47] <RAOF> The everything-stages-in-proposed switch has shaved *a lot* of the sharp edges off the development release.
[06:48] <duflu> Yeah I can put it on a laptop any time. But if my main work dev machine stops working, that's a problem
[06:49] <duflu> RAOF: What's that? We just use proposed more now?
[06:49] <duflu> Or use it properly
[06:50] <RAOF> Every upload gets diverted to proposed, and only migrates when (a) the migration does not break installability, and (b) all autopkgtests pass.
[06:50] <duflu> Awesome
[06:51] <RAOF> This is why having a autopkgtests for Mir would be valuable; every mesa upload would sit in proposed until the Mir autopkgtests completed successfully.
[06:51] <duflu> Except I'm sitting on an installability regression that's a major pain
[06:51] <duflu> Which we don't test for
[06:52] <RAOF> By “installability” I mean “every package in the archive can be installed”, not “can be installed on a PC with a new nvidia card ☺”.
[06:52] <duflu> Ooh
[06:52] <duflu> RAOF: I meant https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-settings-daemon/+bug/1546641
[06:53] <duflu> Which admittedly is not installability as much as acceptability
[06:54] <RAOF> Indeed.
[06:55] <RAOF> Also, isn't a bug in the development branch, but in the release :).
[06:55] <duflu> It was in development, before it got released :)
[06:55] <duflu> Two months before
[06:55] <RAOF> Right, but this is less a question about yakkety.
[06:56]  * duflu continues searching for unofficial EGL extensions
[11:27] <kdub> alf__, are you back today?
[11:28] <alf__> kdub: yes
[11:28] <kdub> alf__, welcome back
[11:28] <alf__> kdub: thanks!
[11:29] <kdub> alf__, just wanted to point out https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1577357, wondering if you remember anything about that bug/workaround where we try to force mir_demo_server to link to pthread
[11:30]  * kdub will keep chipping at it after i've got 1578159 squared away
[11:31] <kdub> probably would be nice to have in 0.23 if its simple (my experiments with it monday werent sucessful though)
[11:32] <kdub> so if its not, we'll just tag to 0.24
[11:43] <alf__> kdub: The original issue was seen only when cross-compiling with clang+ld.gold (IIRC). The packaged binaries are built with gcc+ld.bfd, right?
[11:44] <kdub> yes, they should be
[11:45] <alf__> kdub: In any case, it's very strange that the executable doesn't link with pthread even though we have the work around (i.e. explicitly use pthread symbols)
[11:45] <kdub> right, and I've traced through enough to see that -pthread is there in the options


[00:16] <BassKozz> I setup a READ-ONLY samba share on my NAS box to share videos on my MythTV box, I went into my frontend and added the path to "Utilities/Setup>Setup>Media Settings>Videos Settings>General Settings>Directories that hold videos:" to "/var/lib/mythtv/videos/ : /media/{NAS samba share}/" Then I go back to the frontend's main menu and "Media Library>Watch Videos" still shows "No Videos"
[00:17] <BassKozz> What am I doing wrong here? p.s. This share has multiple directories that contain video's (i.e. Movies, TV, Documentaries, etc...) I have no trouble playing the videos by navigating to them and opening them up in nautilus.
[00:19] <rhpot1991> BassKozz: need to add them via the video manager in setup
[00:21] <BassKozz> rhpot1991, thx, i'll check it out
[00:22] <BassKozz> rhpot1991, nothing showing up in video manager either :(
[00:22] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, did you allow read permissions for your MythTV daemon user?
[00:23] <BassKozz> foxbuntu, not sure, how can I check?
[00:23] <foxbuntu> ls -l on your samba share
[00:24] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, usually best option is to add the mythtv group as owner
[00:25] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, so: sudo chmod <uid>:mythtv /path/to/_smb_mount
[00:25] <rhpot1991> mythtv:mythtv as the owner and 775 as the permissions is a good idea
[00:25] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, not 775
[00:25] <rhpot1991> foxbuntu: since when?
[00:25] <foxbuntu> unless its a dir
[00:25] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, why add execute to video files?
[00:26] <rhpot1991> foxbuntu: true
[00:26] <foxbuntu> 775 on the root perhaps
[00:26] <BassKozz>  should I run ?"sudo chmod <uid>:mythtv /path/to/_smb_mount"
[00:26] <BassKozz> it's a read-only share neways
[00:26] <rhpot1991> ya 775 on the dir
[00:27] <rhpot1991> looks like 666 or 644 on the files
[00:27] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, yes, obviously you need to replace the path and, uid with your username
[00:27] <Mostr> hi gang. anyone one with experience with an irblaster on a serial port?
[00:28] <BassKozz> foxbuntu, how do I find the uid for mythtv?
[00:28] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, its whatever user you setup originally at install
[00:28] <BassKozz> ohh ok
[00:29] <foxbuntu> you can user mythtv:mythtv, but i suggest using your own username
[00:29] <foxbuntu> so, your_user:mythtv
[00:29] <BassKozz> chmod: invalid mode: `basskozz:mythtv'
[00:29] <rhpot1991> chown
[00:30] <BassKozz> ohh yeah
[00:30] <BassKozz> :p
[00:30] <rhpot1991> looks like my videos are 644 owned by my user and that works fine
[00:30] <rhpot1991> recordings are 666 owned by mythtv
[00:30] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, I think the permissions should be more like 661
[00:30] <BassKozz> chown: changing ownership of `/media/nas_samba_share/': Input/output error
[00:30] <msaul>  can anyone help me when I can't use LP/EP/SP when using mytharchive onto a single layer DVD?
[00:30] <msaul>   I can burn the DVD when I select "Don't Re-encode', but ffmpeg errors when I select EP/LP/SP...
[00:31] <rhpot1991> foxbuntu: why 661? that doesn't make much sense
[00:31] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, you probably need to change the way you have your samba server setup
[00:31] <rhpot1991> foxbuntu: why do I want anyone to execute but not read?
[00:32] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, read/write (owner) read/write (group) read (other)
[00:32] <rhpot1991> or are you being a smart ass
[00:32] <Zinn> rhpot1991: Please watch your language.
[00:32] <BassKozz> ohh I know why, I have my smb.conf setup w/ username = basskozz, I need to add mythtv
[00:32] <rhpot1991> 664 foxbuntu
[00:32] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, oh right
[00:32] <rhpot1991> foxbuntu: looks like by default the videos are 666 and images are 644
[00:32] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, sorry, wrong octets
[00:32] <foxbuntu> er
[00:32] <foxbuntu> octals
[00:33] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, 664 works
[00:33] <rhpot1991> thanks for saving me foxbuntu I was chmoding files 775 in my script
[00:33] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, yes, I only know because of all the times superm1 kicked my arse for doing it
[00:33] <Zinn> foxbuntu: Please watch your language.
[00:33] <foxbuntu> :)
[00:33] <rhpot1991> heh
[00:33] <foxbuntu> wow
[00:34] <rhpot1991> hmmm when did I add that
[00:34] <foxbuntu> ZInn knows arse?
[00:34] <Zinn> foxbuntu: Please watch your language.
[00:34] <rhpot1991> I think Daviey complained that we didn't catch british curses
[00:34] <foxbuntu> thats really a birtish curse?
[00:34] <rhpot1991> means ass in brit
[00:34] <Zinn> rhpot1991: Please watch your language.
[00:34] <rhpot1991> quiet zinn
[00:34] <foxbuntu> I didnt know...
[00:34] <foxbuntu> intresting
[00:35] <foxbuntu> anyways
[00:35] <foxbuntu> yes, only use 775 on dirs, and 664 on files (except exec files obviously)
[00:36] <rhpot1991> !blank%
[00:36] <Zinn> If you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory.  It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory
[00:36] <rhpot1991> ok thats good
[00:37] <foxbuntu> yea
[00:37] <foxbuntu> other than people should stay away from doing that chmod -R
[00:38] <BassKozz> still not letting me chown :-(, shouldn't it still be accessible because permissions Others=Read ?
[00:39] <Daviey> Grrrrrrrrrrr
[00:40] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, not to change permissions if your samba share is setup read-only (not the files, the actual share on the server)
[00:40] <foxbuntu> Daviey, ?
[00:42] <BassKozz> foxbuntu, what do you mean?  The share on my NAS box is setup to share READ-ONLY, and I've mounted the share on my MythTV box using fstab
[00:43] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, you say NAS, but is it a machine with shared storage, or an actual NAS? (people tend to interchange the terms)
[00:43] <BassKozz> Ubuntu 8.10 machine w/ shared storage
[00:44] <foxbuntu> so, box with storage, not NAS
[00:44] <foxbuntu> :)
[00:44] <BassKozz> yes :p
[00:44] <BassKozz> it was easier to use "NAS" and "MYTHTV" to define the boxes as not on-in-the-same
[00:44] <foxbuntu> ok, on that machine, you need to setup the share as read/write, then change the permissions as needed from the machine you mount it on
[00:44] <BassKozz> *one-in-the-same
[00:45] <BassKozz> ok... brb, Thx
[00:45] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, sorry, not with me, my day job is a Network Engineer, so its hard for me to help when I dont know what you are talking about
[00:48] <BassKozz> I assume I need to add a user 'mythtv' on my "box with storage", what should I set the password too?
[00:48] <BassKozz> or leave it blank?
[00:49] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, no
[00:49] <foxbuntu> as I said before, change the share from read-only, to read-write
[00:50] <foxbuntu> then change the permissions from the machine you are mounting the share on
[00:50] <BassKozz> ok... brb
[00:54] <BassKozz> ok did all that now I am getting a new one: "chown: changing ownership of `/media/share/': Permission denied" before it said I/O error
[00:54] <BassKozz> and I used sudo
[01:00] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, hmm...been awhile since I delt with samba... BassKozz why not just setup a secondary BE on the other box and let mythtv do the work for you?
[01:01] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, a seoncdary BE can setup a storage group and then you dont have to mess with all of this
[01:01] <BassKozz> That's a thought, I kinda wanted to keep mythtv off that box thou if at all possible... right now I am just experimenting with MythTV on a spare pc, when I am more comfortable w/it I will put it on there...
[01:02] <BassKozz> here is my fstab line: //shareip/mythtv /media/share   smbfs  auto,credentials=/root/.credentials,uid=1000,umask=000,user   0 0
[01:02] <BassKozz> where I've already set /root/.credentials to the proper user/pass
[01:02] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, ah
[01:03] <BassKozz> foxbuntu, you see something?
[01:03] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, you need to set that user to Owner will full permissions (of the actual files, from the machine hosting the files)
[01:03] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, you jarred loose some more info
[01:04] <BassKozz> ahh ok, I think I understand what your saying... brb...
[01:05] <Mostr> anyone have experience with a serial ir blaster? mine seems to initialize, but doesn't want to change channels on my box.
[01:07] <BassKozz> foxbuntu, that did the trick, now chown works, but still nothing is showing up in video manager :(
[01:08] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, did you change the path of the video files in the setup for mythtv?
[01:08] <BassKozz> Also "sudo chown basskozz:mythtv /media/share/" works but "sudo chown mythtv /media/share/" does not ?
[01:08] <BassKozz> yeah, the path never changed
[01:09] <BassKozz> I just umounted and remounted using mount -a
[01:09] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, so you changed it from the default correct?
[01:10] <BassKozz> What do you mean "changed from default"?
[01:10] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, what does this output: ls -l /media/
[01:11] <Mostr> are there any utilities I can use to test the output of the irblaster? something like irw reads the remote sensor, so something for a blaster?
[01:11] <BassKozz> http://pastebin.com/d6e217659
[01:11] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, in the MythTV settings, the path for "Videos" defaults to /var/lib/mythtv/videos (iirc)
[01:12] <foxbuntu> Mostr, google it, you'll find what you seek
[01:12] <BassKozz> foxbuntu, yeah, mine is set to "/var/lib/mythtv/videos/ : /media/share/"
[01:12] <Mostr> I've been googling, and in one post it says to disable the kernel support for the serial port, and in another it says not to.
[01:13] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, I assume by share you mean "Movies"
[01:14] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, or is this pastebin inside the share?
[01:14] <BassKozz> correct pastebin inside the share
[01:14] <foxbuntu> ah
[01:15] <BassKozz> http://pastebin.com/d24e0b86e
[01:15] <BassKozz> so multiple folders w/ various types (i.e. Movies, TV, Documentaries, Music)
[01:15] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, well do this: sudo chown -R basskozz:mythtv /media/share/
[01:15] <BassKozz> ok...
[01:16] <foxbuntu> then set your videos folder to /media/share/Movies
[01:16] <vizo1> tgm4883: u there?
[01:18] <BassKozz> foxbuntu, did that, still a no-go, but the movies dir only contains other dir's of movies (DVD backups), not the actual media files
[01:18] <BassKozz> so do I have to create one for each and every directory
[01:18] <BassKozz> :-O
[01:19] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, thats ok, MythTV will figure it out from there
[01:19] <foxbuntu> ls -l /media/share/ again
[01:19] <BassKozz> OK well, It still not showing up in the Video Manager :(
[01:19] <BassKozz> ok...
[01:19] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, you are going to Settings > Video Manager correct?
[01:20] <BassKozz> foxbuntu, http://pastebin.com/d560edc01
[01:21] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, that looks better
[01:21] <BassKozz> foxbuntu, correct "Settings>Video Manager"
[01:21] <foxbuntu> are you going out an back in each time?
[01:21] <foxbuntu> it only checks on load
[01:22] <foxbuntu> unless there is some refresh button I am not thinking of :)
[01:23] <BassKozz> by "out an back" you mean closing out frontend, and reopening, then yes... but I am not shuting down the backend however
[01:23] <foxbuntu> no no
[01:23] <foxbuntu> you only have to go back to the menu
[01:23] <foxbuntu> then back into video manager
[01:23] <BassKozz> ohh, well I did both
[01:23] <BassKozz> :p
[01:24] <BassKozz> still nothing showing in video manager :(
[01:24] <foxbuntu> ok, try running video manager, then run this and post the output: tail -n 50 /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[01:25] <BassKozz> wait I think I got it...
[01:25] <foxbuntu> ok...what did you change?
[01:26] <BassKozz> I changed the "Directories that hold videos" from "/var/lib/mythtv/videos/ : /media/share/Movies" to just "/media/share/Movies" and now they are showing up :-D
[01:26] <BassKozz> I wounder why the semi-colon isn't working?
[01:27] <BassKozz> err "colon"
[01:27] <BassKozz> the wiki said that should work: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Detailed_configuration_Frontend
[01:27] <foxbuntu> I havent tried it like that, but it should as far as i know
[01:29] <foxbuntu> oh
[01:29] <foxbuntu> did you use spaces?
[01:29] <foxbuntu> as you listed it in here?
[01:29] <BassKozz> yup
[01:29] <BassKozz> no_spaces ?
[01:29] <foxbuntu> /var/lib/mythtv/videos/ : /media/share/Movies != /var/lib/mythtv/videos/:/media/share/Movies
[01:30] <BassKozz> ahhh, ok, !DOH!
[01:30] <BassKozz> !slap BassKozz for using spaces
[01:30] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about slap BassKozz for using spaces
[01:30] <tgm4883> vizo1, pong
[01:30] <BassKozz> Thanks for your help foxbuntu :-D
[01:30] <BassKozz> I really appreciate it
[01:30] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, np
[01:30] <vizo1> tgm4883: hey
[01:30] <BassKozz> you-da-man ;-P
[01:31] <vizo1> tgm4883: you have your mythvoda working yes?
[01:31] <foxbuntu> BassKozz, once in awhile I figure it out
[01:31] <tgm4883> vizo1, yea
[01:31] <vizo1> mine keeps getting stuck at updating listing 40 %
[01:32] <vizo1> then  some errors but I cant  read the screen it brings up cause it freezes
[01:33] <vizo1> have to dump out of the front end  to go back to normal
[01:33] <vizo1> any ideas
[01:33] <vizo1> ?
[01:33] <tgm4883> vizo1, start the frontend from the command line, but if I had to guess, its your hulu xml file
[01:33] <tgm4883> something is wrong with it
[01:39] <vizo1> sticking on Excuting : gethulu.pl
[01:39] <vizo1> then nothing
[01:40] <vizo1> I notice if I run gethulu.pl from command line
[01:40] <vizo1> I get this
[01:41] <vizo1> print() on closed filehandle MYTHMENU at /usr/local/bin/gethulu.pl line 35.
[01:41] <tgm4883> strange
[01:41] <vizo1> with differnt lines  over and over
[01:42] <vizo1> http://www.hulu.com/adios-sabata
[01:42] <vizo1> print() on closed filehandle MYTHMENU at /usr/local/bin/gethulu.pl line 35.
[01:42] <vizo1> print() on closed filehandle MYTHMENU at /usr/local/bin/gethulu.pl line 51
[01:42] <tgm4883> oh I think you are running it wrong
[01:42] <tgm4883> don't you have to run
[01:43] <tgm4883> gethulu.pl /path/to/xml
[01:43] <BassKozz> foxbuntu, I am out, you have a great evening, and thank you again for all your help, bye
[01:43] <vizo1> tgm4883: so I need to change that in the Setup?
[01:43] <tgm4883> yea
[01:44] <vizo1> ok I cant get to the mythvodka setup
[01:44] <vizo1> now
[01:44] <tgm4883> you were able to get there before?
[01:44] <vizo1> is there a way to change the comand from a menu file or something?
[01:45] <vizo1> when I first installed it
[01:45] <vizo1> but now every tim I go into Mythvodka setup  that runs
[01:45] <tgm4883> i'm not sure where it's kept
[01:45] <tgm4883> it might be in the db, but I don't remember seeing it there
[01:46] <vizo1> on my back end?
[01:46] <tgm4883> well yea thats where the db usually is ;)
[01:46] <vizo1> heh
[01:50] <vizo1> I dont see it in the settings table
[02:16] <vizo1> tgm4883: I found it in the settings table on the db
[02:16] <vizo1> now I gotta figure how to edit it
[02:16] <noinip> !help air2pc
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[02:17] <noinip> !help
[02:17] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[02:17] <noinip> I'm looking for help on getting an Air2PC card going under Mythbuntu.
[02:17] <perilousapricot> I'm getting a segfault on the most recent weekly build
[02:18] <noinip> I downloaded and copied the dvb-febcm3510-01.fw to /lib/firmware/ and it is still not detecting my card after reboot.
[02:19] <noinip> I"m pretty sure it's a rev 1 but I also followed the instructions for downloading the fw for the rev 2 card.  lscpi has no mention of the card.  Any help is appreciated.
[02:43] <perilousapricot> is anyone having trouble installing mythbuntu-default-settings?
[02:48] <vizo1> anyone any good at updatting mySQL tables?
[02:58] <vizo1> nevermind
[02:58] <vizo1> got it
[03:39] <superm1> perilousapricot, on trunk or fixes?
[03:39] <superm1> perilousapricot, and what version of ubuntu are you having trouble with MDS?
[03:40] <superm1> noinip, if lspci is not mentioning the card, it's not on your PCI bus
[03:40] <superm1> noinip, i'd reseat it if i were you
[03:40] <superm1> i had though the firmware is normally shipped with ubuntu for those cards too (as in no work necessary for you)
[03:43] <tritium> Is there no mythbuntu alpha 4?
[03:47] <superm1> tritium, no, the archive broke at alpha 4
[03:48] <superm1> tritium, unfortunately xubuntu thought a xfce 4.4 ->4.6 transition was a good idea
[03:48] <superm1> you know like 2 days before a4
[03:48] <superm1> tritium, you can grab dailies though
[03:48] <superm1> everything is fixed now
[03:48] <superm1> tritium, http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/daily-live/
[03:49] <tritium> superm1: thanks!
[03:49] <superm1> tritium, np.  please catch bugs, particularly in the installer if you can :)
[03:49] <tritium> I think I need the newest alsa to support my new motherboard's HDMI audio out.
[03:50] <tritium> superm1: ok :)
[03:51] <perilousapricot> superm1, /mythbuntu-default-settings_0.76-0ubuntu1_all.deb)
[03:51] <tritium> The first thing I'll check for is if I can setup my ATSC card in the backend setup during the install.  In previous releases, I can't, and have to re-run the backend setup after install is complete.
[03:51] <superm1> perilousapricot, so that would be jaunty then
[03:51] <superm1> hmm lets see what happened
[03:51] <perilousapricot> superm1, yeah
[03:52] <perilousapricot> superm1, it just gives an
[03:52] <superm1> perilousapricot, everything else can upgrade right?
[03:52] <perilousapricot> yeah, everything else is up to date
[03:52] <perilousapricot> superm1, it give a: dpkg: error processing mythbuntu-default-settings_0.76-0ubuntu1_all.deb (--install):
[03:52] <perilousapricot>  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[03:52] <superm1> perilousapricot, interesting thing is it's only upgrades that are broke.  new disks are mastering fine...
[03:53] <superm1> perilousapricot, did you submit a bug on this by chance already?
[03:53] <perilousapricot> not yet
[03:53] <perilousapricot> was gonna check in here first
[03:54] <superm1> perilousapricot, okay let me see if anything stands out in the preinst
[03:54] <superm1> you can look too if you want
[03:54] <superm1> /var/lib/dpkg/info/mythbuntu-default-settings.preinst
[03:55] <perilousapricot> http://pastebin.com/m7f3f6ec6
[03:56] <superm1> hm nothing looks too crazy there
[03:57] <perilousapricot> yeah..
[03:57] <perilousapricot> one sec
[03:57] <perilousapricot> gonna make tomorrow's lunch
[04:01] <noinip> superml, thanks. I'll try that
[04:05] <superm1> perilousapricot, oh it's a really silly error. i see it now
[06:27] <Sharkonwheels> Still got video problem. Can't get TV-ou working, on either an ATI Radeon 9550XL, or Nvidia 6200. nvidia driver fails with "can't find device".
[06:28] <Sharkonwheels> running mythbuntu 8.10, Athlon XP 3200+ (2.2gHz), 1.5GB/500GB/HVR-1600
[06:28] <Sharkonwheels> ATI prop. driver stalls+skips, FOSS ATI driver has no TV-out. FOSS nvidia driver has garbage on TV-Out, 173/177 nvidia prop driver fail to init. card
[07:40] <cann> is there a way to make a diskless frontend only use the image on the server and skip any client side changes ?
[07:50] <cann> nm figured it out =)
[12:36] <alexmwx>  hi, is there a howto for setting up a wintv-nova s dvb tv card? yes? where can i find it?
[15:04] <MythbuntuGuest46> I have a mythvideo question.  I have mythvideo set up with the default settings.  what player is it using (mplayer is in the default command line of setup)  I rip my dvd's in iso format (default)  My issue is that I can play the iso files using the default modes of 2 remote frontends (ubuntu 8.04 and ubuntu 8.04 (64)) but they wont play on my main mythbuntu machine (mythbuntu 8.10)  I have even tried to use the
[16:25] <sirhc_> myth 0.21 'can't log in to database' also trying to set up storage dir's 'can't write to file ...' any pointers?
[16:56] <dva> can I enable xvmc on nvidia mx440 on mythtv 0.21 and how?
[17:15] <dva_> can I enable xvmc on nvidia mx440 on mythtv 0.21 and how?
[17:16] <superm1> dva, i dont believe the mx440 supports xvmc
[17:16] <superm1> you're best off posting on the forums though, as most the people appear to not know here
[17:16] <superm1> !forums | dva
[17:16] <Zinn> dva: The Mythbuntu forums are located at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301.  If you aren't getting a timely response here, there are lots of very active individuals there that may be able to help.
[17:17] <dva_> i tried forums but not lucky
[17:18] <superm1> yeah it's an old card, so people likely dont have them sitting around and know for sure
[17:18] <dva_> ... and nvidia claims geforce4 mx440 does support xvmc
[17:18] <dva_> or purevideo
[17:18] <superm1> purevideo != xvmc ..
[17:19] <dva_> really? ok, but xorg.log says it is loaded
[17:19] <superm1> xvmc is an X.org extension.  it gets loaded whether your hardware supports it or now
[17:19] <superm1> *not
[17:19] <dva_> ok. but it works with xine
[17:20] <dva_> can i be sure that my card supports it?
[17:20] <superm1> if you are sure it's using xvmc in xine (typically xxmc is what it's called with nvidia i thought in xine), then just setting it in mythtv options would just work
[17:21] <dva_> tried in mythtv but > Desired video renderer 'xvmc-blit' not available
[17:22] <dva_> using mythbuntu 8.10 and nvidia 96.... drivers
[17:24] <superm1> well then doesn't that mean xvmc doesn't work?
[17:25] <dva_> don't know. but it should work! it works with xine! i am going to cry. mythtv eats my processor time
[17:25] <dva_> ~90%
[17:25] <dva_> help, please
[17:32] <dva_> !help
[17:32] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[17:33] <dva_> superm1?
[17:34] <superm1> dva_, i can't help at all.  you can hang out and see if anyone else can assist at all, wait for a post to your forum posting, check in #mythtv-users for others to help or send a post to the mythtv-users mailing list.
[17:34] <dva_> thx
[17:34] <dva_> :)
[17:41] <perilousapricot> superm1, you see the big from last night?
[17:41] <superm1> perilousapricot, it should  be fixed today
[17:41] <superm1> try an apt-get update/upgrade
[17:41] <perilousapricot> sweet
[17:41] <perilousapricot> let me vnc home real quick
[18:20] <gizmobay> Is anyone here using the vdpau packages with the vdpau profile enabled? If so, when pulling up the EPG does the livetv preview work for you?
[19:33] <fernando__> Hi ever one, im having some problem with my remote. im using the windows mce remote the came with my hauppauge PVR-150 MCE . i was reading online that the ir codes are diferent then other windows MCE remote.  i know the remote work fine becouse i using it on my vista home prem system in Media center. in the past with mythbuntu 7.x i just selected windows MCE remote (new) and it worked just fine..i also know the reseaver is wor
[19:33] <fernando__> king becouse i can use the irblaster to change the channel on my cable box though mythtv.... any help would be nice...
[19:33] <fernando__> thanks fernando
[19:41] <perilousapricot> is the vdpau worth spending $60 on a new video card for?
[19:41] <perilousapricot> or should I keep saving for an OTA hd tuner?
[19:51] <superm1> perilousapricot, you can get them for cheaper than that i think
[19:51] <tgm4883> is vdpau in .21 yet or are you going to run trunk?
[19:51] <superm1> but yeah it will be worth it when a stable mythtv release supports it
[19:52] <tgm4883> IIRC, mythbuntu isn't going to have it until 9.10
[19:52] <tgm4883> theoritically
[19:52] <rhpot1991> I vote get an HDHR :)
[19:52] <rhpot1991> you can use it sooner, and then watch for vdpau cards on sale right before you need one
[19:57] <tgm4883> is there any reason to use VDPAU if you don't have 1080p content?
[20:02] <superm1> if you get an hd-pvr
[20:02] <superm1> say if you've got satellite and want to watch hd..
[20:03] <rhpot1991> still running trunk though
[20:03] <rhpot1991> the digital transition is overrated anyways
[20:03] <tgm4883> superm1, so that would be no?
[20:04] <tgm4883> or are you saying that the hd-pvr outputs 1080i content that I need vdpau for?
[20:04] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: did I tell you 24 sucks yet today?
[20:04] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, not yet
[20:04] <rhpot1991> I don't know why I waste my time with it anymore
[20:04] <tgm4883> but then again I could have missed it
[20:04] <tgm4883> we don't take no 24 haters in here
[20:04] <tgm4883> ;)
[20:05] <rhpot1991> may as well just keep watching season one and painting faces over the people, would be the same story
[20:05] <tgm4883> am I going to have to kick you again?
[20:05] <rhpot1991> maybe
[20:05] <tgm4883> i'll do it punk ;)
[20:05] <rhpot1991> !stab tgm4883
[20:05]  * Zinn stabs tgm4883 with a rusty spork.
[20:07] <superm1> tgm4883, the streams the hd-pvr outputs are mpeg4
[20:07] <superm1> takes a bit more cpu than mpeg2 streams
[20:07] <tgm4883> superm1, ah
[20:07] <tgm4883> ok, that makes sense then
[20:07] <tgm4883> 1080p?
[20:07] <superm1> well or GPU if you are vdpau'ified
[20:07] <superm1> i dunno if it can do 1080p, dont follow the specs that well
[20:07] <superm1> might want to ask foxbuntu if he ever gets on bip
[20:07] <perilousapricot> I'm running trunk
[20:08] <perilousapricot> hey, superm1 , have another package glitch for you
[20:08] <perilousapricot> Setting up mythexport (1.0.7-0ubuntu1) ...
[20:08] <perilousapricot> ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/share/mythtv/mythexport/video/mythexport': File exists
[20:09] <superm1> rhpot1991, ^ :)
[20:09] <superm1> there's a bug filed on that one already
[20:09] <superm1> bug 330624
[20:09] <Zinn> Bug 330624 in mythexport (Ubuntu) "package mythexport 1.0.7-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: Unterprozess post-installation script gab den Fehlerwert 1 zurück" [Undecided, New] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/330624
[20:09] <superm1> oh wait that's a little bit different
[20:09] <superm1> looks like there are two bugs related to symbolic links then maybe
[20:10] <rhpot1991> its the same issue I think
[20:11] <rhpot1991> different symlinks
[20:11] <rhpot1991> perilousapricot: thats the location you put in when it asked you where you wanted to store things right?
[20:11]  * rhpot1991 was sloppy with those I guess
[20:11] <perilousapricot> rhpot1991, I don't think I put in anything specifically
[20:12] <foxbuntu> superm1, NEVER!
[20:12] <perilousapricot> but, it does seem like a weird symlink problem because if I remove it, it gets mad at another file which is in a symlinked directory or something
[20:13] <rhpot1991> ya there is another one that happens later, the one in that bug
[20:17] <perilousapricot> cool
[20:18] <rhpot1991> perilousapricot: if you want to force it to install you can make sure the symlinks on lines 30-32 here don't exist: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythexport/jaunty-mythimport/annotate/head%3A/debian/mythexport.postinst
[20:19] <rhpot1991> I should be pushing a new version tonight once all my new functionality is in there
[20:27] <noinip> superml, Thanks.  I guess after everything my PCI card wasn't seated well enough.  I'm getting channels now ;)
[20:27] <superm1> noinip, great.  odds are your firmware was fine too then from the beginning
[20:27] <superm1> everyone always forgets the easy solutions :)
[20:32] <noinip> yeah, Now I'm just upset my indoor antenna isn't strong enough to get all the channels.  Guess I need a better one but at least I'm on my way and over that first stumbling block.
[20:32] <gizmobay> Does the EPG livetv preview work with vdpau packages or is it just me?
[20:42] <superm1> gizmobay, if you are having issues with EPG livetv preview with vdpau in  trunk, file them as bugs upstream at svn.mythtv.org
[20:42] <superm1> gizmobay, if you are referring to the hacky -fixes packages someone put together with vdpau, they're not supported by us, talk to those people
[20:54] <gizmobay> I'm using the avenard packages. I'll contact them just wondered if anyone else was using them and saw the same thing
[20:58] <perilousapricot> mannnnn, it's complicated to make myth transcode into a sensible h264 format to put on my ipod
[21:01] <rhpot1991> perilousapricot: if you clean up those symlink errors mythexport can do it for you :)
[21:01] <rhpot1991> I can fix them and push to the testing ppa in a bit
[21:01] <perilousapricot> can I finagle it to transcode and not export?
[21:01] <perilousapricot> the h264 files are much smaller :)
[21:02] <rhpot1991> perilousapricot: you'd want to replace your current recording with the h264?
[21:02] <perilousapricot> rhpot1991, yeah, I don't have a ton of harddrive space
[21:03] <perilousapricot> rhpot1991, and this is all analog SD anyway
[21:03] <rhpot1991> in theory you could, but it doesn't do it out of the box
[21:03] <rhpot1991> also keep in mind the res on the ipod is smaller than your recording
[21:04] <perilousapricot> can't the ipod do up to 640x480?
[21:04] <rhpot1991> depends which one
[21:04] <perilousapricot> which I guess is a little less than NTSC
[21:04] <perilousapricot> I have a newer one
[21:04] <rhpot1991> classic does less than that IIRC
[21:04] <rhpot1991> touch?
[21:04] <perilousapricot> touch, even
[21:04] <perilousapricot> yeah
[21:04] <perilousapricot> I have a pretty long commute
[21:05] <perilousapricot> and a lot of downtime during the day
[21:05] <rhpot1991> yep 640x480
[21:05] <rhpot1991> http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/specs.html
[21:06] <perilousapricot> so, it'd be neat to have the recordings transcoded over to that format, and then hacking on that rss.php file to make a podcast that itunes would import
[21:06] <rhpot1991> in order to replace them all you'd need to do is build a wrapper script to remove the one one after the export and change the file name in the recorded table in the database
[21:07] <rhpot1991> now I'm not sure how nice things in mythtv will play with that file
[21:07] <rhpot1991> internal player/mythweb/etc
[21:09] <rhpot1991> perilousapricot: my recommendation would be to buy a bigger hard drive, they are cheap anymore :)
[21:09] <rhpot1991> unless you want to test that out and let me know how it works
[21:10] <perilousapricot> well, the harddrive isn't so much a big deal, I'd just like to be able to carry my TV with me, and having a copy for the iPod and one for myth seems kinda silly
[21:10] <perilousapricot> :)
[21:11] <fernando__> hay is any one out their using the hauppauge MCE remote
[21:13] <perilousapricot> I have a microsoft one, sorry
[21:14] <fernando__> are you have any problams with getting it to work?
[21:14] <perilousapricot> nope, it's working great for me
[21:16] <fernando__> i used the mythbuntu config program and set it their but  it does not work. did you do any thing else to make your work....
[21:16] <perilousapricot> when I did it, it worked okay
[21:16] <perilousapricot> there's a command you can try on the command line that'll help you debug
[21:16] <perilousapricot> but I can't think of what it is okay
[21:17] <fernando__> is it irw
[21:17] <perilousapricot> perhaps, I'm at work  so I don't have my machine in front of me
[21:18] <fernando__> ok thanks for the help , but when i use irw it came back up with blank...
[21:18] <perilousapricot> hmmmm
[21:18] <perilousapricot> sorry, if you're arohund when I get home, I'll take a peek
[21:19] <fernando__> im using it on my vista pc and the remote is working ok.. do you think vista might of upgraded the firmware on it?? so i cant use it in linux??
[21:20] <perilousapricot> what's the interface?
[21:21] <perilousapricot> and I doubt it
[21:24] <rhpot1991> perilousapricot: do you want me to push a fixed version to the testing ppa?  A lot of things will be changing with it in the next few days I have added a lot of functionality that is waiting to be pushed when its all completed
[21:24] <perilousapricot> no, that's cool man
[21:24] <perilousapricot> I'll just wait till it filters up to the weekly-build tests
[21:25] <fernando__> its the usb receiver with the Hauppauge mce remote. http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MCE_Remote#Windows_Vista_MCE_Remote     it is the 5th remote from the left shown on the page
[21:28] <rhpot1991> perilousapricot: I'll try to remember and let you know when it gets pushed out there
[21:28] <perilousapricot> rhpot1991, thanks
[21:28] <perilousapricot> fernando__, if you unplug/replug it, do you get anything out of syslog?
[21:30] <fernando__> where do i get the log from .. i know it works becouse im able to use the ir blaster that come off the receiver and that is working just fine in myth..
[21:42] <noinip> fernando__ I was just setting that up today but only got as far as it being detected.
[21:42] <noinip> let me find that page
[21:43] <fernando__> thanks you..
[21:44] <sirhc_> ok .. i have completely screw something up.. my frontend cant connect to the database and i am obviously misunderstanding the storage dirs part. also with 0.21 how important is it to set a new partition? i thought that is why there are srorage dir's now.
[21:45] <noinip> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=957959
[21:45] <noinip> That is what I'm following now to get my remote working.  I think we are talking about the same one.  I'm to the point where if I run irw that I'm getting input.
[21:46] <noinip> Just have to get it going with mythtv...
[21:47] <sirhc_> when i start backend - error .. can't connect to database
[21:48] <fernando__> thanks you im making the changes to the system now.....
[21:48] <sirhc_> during frontend setup i get to the last step .. set up storage dirs .. i created dirs and put the path in myth setup .. error - cant write to file ..
[21:49] <sirhc_> anyone have any ideas?
[21:50] <fernando__> i know the sql password is stored in the /home/mythtv/.mythtv folder in the config file..
[21:51] <sirhc_> requote.. sorry it says "cannot create a file bla bla bla//.test - directory is not writeable
[21:55] <sirhc_> i am going to have to fix the storage dirs first because that is where my box is stuck and only options are "fix problems" "yes please" "or no i know what i'm doing" and i obviously don't know what i'm doing...
[21:58] <sirhc_> i created dir /home/mythtv/RecDir then inside that i made /DefaultREC and /LiveTV - was that right?
[22:29] <Gnea> I'm having a problem with audio on my Ubuntu 8.10 system - audio works for other apps just fine, but mythtv isn't catching any audio, neither when I watch TV or try to record anything, it's simply not there. I have everything pointed to ALSA and running kernel 2.6.27-12-generic. I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this because it's never happened before..
[22:29] <Gnea> I have checked mixer settings and nothing is muted and is turned up to an audible degree, speakers are connected firmly
[22:30] <sirhc_> was it working before? in mythtv? or is this a new install?
[22:35] <yojimbo-san> My XFCE desktop won't login; pauses at "starting the desktop manager". There are 50 gnome-power-manager, 52 update-notifier and 237 jockey-gtk processes running!! killing them doesn't seem to help, reboots don't help, deleting ~/.gnome* didn't help ... what can I do next??
[22:42] <gizmobay> Anyone know how to change the apache listening port? I changed the value in ports.conf then restarted apache2 but it doesn't take. The router has been setup to forward the port.
[22:44] <rhpot1991> gizmobay: /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[22:44] <rhpot1991> and prob the Vhost in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[22:49] <gizmobay> thanks rhpot1991, I missed the 000-default change
[22:49] <rhpot1991> np gizmobay
[22:50] <Gnea> sirhc_: yes, it was working just fine
[22:51] <gizmobay> vlc handles digest auth now. Nice
[23:07] <sirhc_> hmm thats weird.. want a wierder one? my audio is suddenly doing its own thing .. the video is about 3 sec delay and the audio stays on no matter what, to the last channel tunned. example .. rewind live tv and the audio keeps right on going. exit mythtv frontend, still have audio.
[23:08] <Gnea> hrm
[23:08] <Gnea> sirhc_: zombie process eating cpu cycles?
[23:08] <sirhc_> running tvtime reset the audo to a new channel (the one tunned on tvtime) and they match perfect, no delay
[23:10] <Gnea> not sure if tvtime works with my card... it's a HVR-1600
[23:10] <sirhc_> well i am alarmed by the status screen... reported "RAM 248 total 243 used" box has 512M RAM ???
[23:11] <Gnea> what does the free command report?
[23:11] <sirhc_> hmm.. same thing .. 3264 free
[23:12] <Gnea> sure it's not reading swap?
[23:12] <sirhc_> swap : 738948  216488  522460
[23:13] <Gnea> weird
[23:16] <Gnea> hrmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[23:16] <Gnea> 2009-02-17 17:14:04.333 AudioOutput Warning: Mixer attach error -2: No such file or directory Check Mixer Name in Setup: '/dev/mixer'
[23:16] <Gnea> o.O
[23:17] <Gnea> crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 14, 0 2009-02-17 15:07 /dev/mixer
[23:17] <Gnea> that makes no sense, at all, whatsoever. it says there's no /dev/mixer, and yet, according to ls, it exists. and yes, I'm part of the audio group.
[23:41] <perilousapricot> I'm gtting a weird error with mythtv-status not finding the disk space percentage
[23:41] <perilousapricot> --verbose shows it's having a problem with DBI connecting to the database?
[23:45] <rhpot1991> perilousapricot: does it show anything useful?
[23:50] <rhpot1991> like recordings and such


[21:51] <devish> jimmy_birer: http://rg3.github.com/youtube-dl/download.html i dowloaded it from here changed it to type  py but its not directly execubale
[21:51] <mah454> fenjamin, are you hear ?
[21:52] <devish> neither youtube-dl works with sudo
[21:52] <jimmy_birer> devish:type "python youtube-dl.py"
[21:52] <wildbat> klj613: you have to change mount options you can't chown/chmod on ntfs. umount it ~ and remount with option like uid=????,gid=????,umask=????
[21:53] <jimmy_birer> in applications>accesories>terminal
[21:53] <petermarcel> hello
[21:53] <jimmy_birer> i mean "python youtube-dl "your youtube link here"(without he quotes""
[21:53] <klj613> wildbat: is it a way for me to make it mount specific way automatic? when i boot up
[21:54] <devish> jimmy_birer: yes never ran python so no idea;)
[21:54] <devish> jimmy_birer: CAN I pipe axel with it
[21:54] <wildbat> !fstab | klj613
[21:54] <jimmy_birer> rofl
[21:54] <klj613> thanks
[21:55] <devish> klj613: you can put a line in fstab an it will work
[21:55] <devish> or put in rc.d
[21:55] <mongy> youtube-dl (link to url here) is enough
[21:55] <klj613> k
[21:55] <jimmy_birer> mongy....
[21:55] <jimmy_birer> no it is not
[21:55] <mongy> jimmy_birer, I use it.. it is
[21:56] <jimmy_birer> mongy brother,he downloaded the file
[21:56] <jimmy_birer> it isnt installed from apt
[21:56] <devish> mongy: the python is not directly exxecutable here i suppose
[21:56] <mongy> jimmy_birer, I know
[21:56] <mongy> jimmy_birer, it still works
[21:56] <jimmy_birer> let me try it
[21:56] <mongy> well, I always move mine to /usr/bin out of habit.
[21:56] <devish> me too
[21:57] <mongy> and make an alias called yt
[21:57] <jimmy_birer> mongy:you cant run downloaded files
[21:57] <jimmy_birer> if you didnt install it from apt
[21:57] <jimmy_birer> you should take it thru python
[21:57] <jimmy_birer> and it doesnt do it by default
[21:57] <mongy> alias yt='youtube-dl -o "%(title)s.%(ext)s"'       outputs to a nice name
[21:58] <mongy> jimmy_birer, I got from youtube-dl site, moved to /usr/bin and now it executes as yt from my alias or from youtube-dl fine
[21:58] <jimmy_birer> mongy:he didnt do that
[21:58] <klj613> devish: how do i know the file system? e.g. /dev/scd0 (dont know which is which etc)
[21:58] <minashokry> Hello, I installed fglrx by mistake (I don't have ATI card) and after that I can't login to unity anymore. I uninstalled fglrx but still can't login to unity. any clues?
[21:58] <jimmy_birer> are you stupid?
[21:58] <mongy> jimmy_birer, whats wrong with yours I dont know
[21:58] <jimmy_birer> MONGY.HE DIDNT MOVE IT THERE,BROTHER.
[21:59] <devish> mongy: it doesn't work that way
[21:59] <Polah> klj613: Is the partition mounted already?
[21:59] <mongy> so I am dreaming when I run it and it gives me a video?
[22:00] <klj613> Polah: yes
[22:00] <jimmy_birer> .....
[22:00] <Polah> klj613, mount -l will show mounted filesystems, just find the one from the list that matches
[22:00] <jimmy_birer> cant anyone explain this dumbfuck that if someone doesnt move a file to any location in PATH it wont execute by simply typing it?
[22:01] <klj613> Polah: thanks
[22:01] <Polah> jimmy_birer: Watch your language.
[22:01] <mongy> jimmy_birer, /usr/bin is in path, and it executes fine
[22:01] <jimmy_birer> ok im sorry
[22:01] <jimmy_birer> mongy:thats what i told you
[22:02] <minashokry> jimmy_brier: do you have any clues about my problem of unity? I guess it is related to installing then uninstalling fglrx
[22:02] <jimmy_birer> yeah
[22:02] <devish> klj613: you always know use diskscanner partionmanager gparted or fcsk
[22:02] <jimmy_birer> your gfx may be the problem
[22:02] <cristian_c> Hi
[22:02] <jimmy_birer> minashokry:what video card do you have?
[22:02] <marsje> Is Ubuntu supposed to crash when I pull an usb card reader?
[22:02] <cristian_c> I've got  a keyboard called Media Wireless Desktop
[22:02] <Ristovski> please help
[22:02] <jimmy_birer> cristian_c:romanian?
[22:02] <Polah> marsje: Nope
[22:02] <Ristovski> Can i install on SD card (4GB) and use persistence?
[22:03] <Polah> Ristovski, with what?
[22:03] <minashokry> jimmy_brier: intel and nvidia with optimus technology ... I could run unity before
[22:03] <marsje> Polah: totally hung.. mouse/keyboard stopped working
[22:03] <Ristovski> "Can i install on SD card (4GB) and use persistence?"
[22:03] <cristian_c> jimmy_birer, no
[22:03] <jimmy_birer> cristian_c:sorry.
[22:03] <Polah> marsje: Does that happen every time you remove it?
[22:03] <Ristovski> "Can i install on SD card (4GB) and use persistence?"
[22:04] <marsje> Polah: 1st time I just pulled it...
[22:05] <Polah> Ristovski, if the computer you're using it on can boot from an SD card and the reader is compatible with Ubuntu. You may have to get the ISO and customise it with the drivers for the SD card before installing
[22:05] <Ristovski> Polah : can I use persistence on an 2GB USB?
[22:05] <cristian_c> I tried to set the keyboard shortcuts directly from the Applications-> Settings-> Xfce4 settings manager -> Keyboard-> Applications shortcuts
[22:06] <mongy> Ristovski, 4gb is fine if you make a liveusb with persistence.
[22:06] <Ristovski> even if it is SD?
[22:06] <Ristovski> card
[22:06] <mongy> Ristovski, 2gb also works..
[22:06] <Ristovski> ok
[22:06] <Ristovski> how to make persistence?
[22:07] <minashokry> jimmy_brier: I have intel & nvidia with optimus ... this configuration could run unity before
[22:07] <mongy> Ristovski, if your pc can boot it, yes
[22:07] <Ristovski> mongy ^^
[22:07] <Ristovski> ehh..
[22:07] <Ristovski> I dunno ... if not how to make it boot?
[22:07] <cristian_c> I clicked on Add and for example I typed the command 'evolution'. I pressed Ok and then the system asked me to type the key on the keyboard. In this case the key was correctly recognized as XF86Mail and has been included in the list of shortcuts
[22:07] <mongy> Ristovski, use usb-creator to make it, with persistence
[22:08] <Shai-> Hi, I had installed UBuntu and GNOME3, but to run GNOME3, i need make the command in console $gnome-shell --replace, and when i restart my computer, GNOME3 dosent start, someone can help me?
[22:08] <Ristovski> I have
[22:08] <Ristovski> Ill tr to boot later
[22:09] <rww> Shai-: Ubuntu 11.04 comes with GNOME 2. The various methods for using GNOME 3 on it are not supported in this channel, and any problems you have you have we can't help with.
[22:09] <rww> s/you have//
[22:09] <cristian_c> But if I press the mail key, it always happens the same problem, that instead of opening evolution, the pc goes into stand-by
[22:10] <Ristovski> mongy : is the usb creator in Ubuntu?
[22:10] <cristian_c> Is anyone able to understand what the problem is due?
[22:10] <Ristovski> and if so where?
[22:10] <S0LIDUS> Shai-: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-GNOME-3-on-Ubuntu-11-04-194085.shtml
[22:10] <minashokry> jimmy_brier: any news?
[22:11] <cristian_c> I even tried keytouch editor
[22:11] <klj613> whats the panel called which is defaultly at the top right? removed by accident..
[22:11] <cristian_c> and it recognized the keys
[22:13] <cristian_c> But after setting up the keyboard with keytouch, if I press the 'mail' key, the PC goes always on standby for no reason
[22:15] <ThePendulum> Greetings, in an attempt to install Ubuntu (11.04 as well as 10.04), I got this error even before the install started: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25683105/Pictures/2011-09-02%2023.18.51.jpg
[22:15] <ThePendulum> Does anyone have a clue? :o Thank you in advance
[22:16] <Spaceman> od afternoon all...
[22:17] <jimmy_birer> ARP = bind();
[22:17] <jimmy_birer> oops
[22:20] <DeviceZer0> ThePendulum, did you verify your isos?
[22:20] <DeviceZer0> ThePendulum, and does the machine have sufficent ram?
[22:21] <ThePendulum> Define 'sufficent' RAM
[22:21] <ThePendulum> DeviceZer0: How am I supposed to verify my iso's? They're downloaded straight from the Ubuntu website (ubuntu.com)
[22:21] <DeviceZer0> withing the required specs
[22:21] <ThePendulum> Ehm
[22:21] <DeviceZer0> !verifyiso
[22:21] <DeviceZer0> !iso
[22:21] <DeviceZer0> !md5
[22:21] <ThePendulum> It's a PC with brand new parts, that won't be an issue I assume :)
[22:22] <ThePendulum> How am I supposed to do that...? Ubuntu isn't even installed yet lol
[22:22] <klj613> how do i reset ubuntu (gnome) panels?
[22:22] <DeviceZer0> check the links
[22:22] <fr0sted> hey, can anyone help me
[22:22] <fr0sted> When I try to connect using wicd, it gives me a bad password error, even when the hub's wireless security is disabled, I get a bad password error.
[22:22] <DeviceZer0> there should be info on verifying them in other os's
[22:22] <DeviceZer0> klj613, gnome2? or unity?
[22:23] <ThePendulum> There's nothing wrong with the ISO's, I installed Ubuntu using the exact same USB stick (with the exact same files) on my own PC a while ago
[22:23] <fr0sted> i have tried everything and cant get it to connect, im using a belkin adapter, and hopefully this will speed it up slightly ?
[22:23] <klj613> gnome2 (classic) i think
[22:23] <klj613> i didnt like the new 'unity'
[22:23] <DeviceZer0> klj613, there should be a ubuntu forum post about resetting things.
[22:23] <ThePendulum> klj613: Not a lot of people like Unity. Yet Ubuntu still decided to make the 11.10 fallback 'unity 2d'
[22:24]  * ThePendulum applaudes
[22:24] <DeviceZer0> i dont mind unity.
[22:24] <fr0sted> unity rules !
[22:24] <DeviceZer0> ive gotten used to it and kinda like it now
[22:24] <DeviceZer0> lol
[22:24] <klj613> i've searched, and tried a few of the solutions with no luck.
[22:24] <fr0sted> on dualscreen with compiz... BOOM! awesomenessness
[22:24] <klj613> also tried to add the panel back although its non-existant.. (the top right area)
[22:24] <fr0sted> so anyone got any ideas?
[22:25] <ThePendulum> I prefer Ubuntu because it's minimalistic
[22:25] <fr0sted> When I try to connect using wicd, it gives me a bad password error, even when the hub's wireless security is disabled, I get a bad password error.
[22:25] <ThePendulum> Unity surely isn't
[22:25] <Doonz> So does zfs handle the "Green" drives ok or does it have the same problems as a hardware raid card
[22:25] <fr0sted> ThePendulum: i  agree, but also powerful
[22:25] <DeviceZer0> ubuntu is in no ways "minimalistic" lol
[22:25] <DeviceZer0> arch, gentoo....those are minimalistic
[22:26] <ThePendulum> I guess it's a personal issue. Some like Unity, some hate it.
[22:26] <DeviceZer0> yea
[22:26] <DeviceZer0> totally
[22:26] <DeviceZer0> like kde/gnome
[22:26] <DeviceZer0> ;)
[22:26] <fr0sted> Unity is just what i have been wanting, and now i have it, im not going back to windows
[22:26] <ThePendulum> I personally don't like Unity of the new Windows 8 design. I'm not ready for a world of tablets :)
[22:26] <fr0sted> ye ofc :D
[22:26] <fr0sted> i do like the classic version though
[22:26] <fr0sted> but much prefer unity, i love the "dock" or side panel
[22:26] <ThePendulum> *Unity OR the new... etc.
[22:27] <DeviceZer0> i wanted to try one of the new WM's...so i tried fedora15 and gnome3...which sucked real bad. total mess for me
[22:27] <ThePendulum> It seriously costs me at least twice as much time to get where I want using Unity
[22:27] <DeviceZer0> then switched to ubuntu/unity and it works great
[22:27] <gnuvince> I'm trying to get pyo (http://code.google.com/p/pyo) to work on a laptop with an onboard sound card (obviously) and I keep getting an error from PortMidi that my MIDI device is closed.  Has anyone gotten it to work?
[22:27] <klj613> gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel & killall gnome-panel doesn't reset..
[22:27] <ThePendulum> Anyway, Ubuntu still doesn't work at all here :P
[22:27] <ThePendulum> Now trying to install 10.04 from USB
[22:28] <ThePendulum> And I'm pretty damn sure there's nothing wrong with the ISO
[22:28] <fr0sted> unity took me 3 days to et working with compiz, new to it all you see, as an os
[22:28] <symptom> i made changes to synaptic via synclient and syndaemon, but Im trying to figure out how to make them persist accross reboot.... any help?
[22:28] <DeviceZer0> gnuvince, did you install the dependencies?
[22:28] <gnuvince> DeviceZer0: yes
[22:29] <fr0sted> symptom:  tried doing it in root ? sudo su
[22:29] <DeviceZer0> gnuvince, ok. no ideas. only thing i thought of was dependencies
[22:29] <StaticSyphon> Hello :)
[22:29] <gnuvince> DeviceZer0: I can install it just fine, the problem is actually using the lib.
[22:29] <symptom> fr0sted, tried doing what in root?  I edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf but the changes didnt take after i restarted X
[22:30] <StaticSyphon> I'm having trouble installing ubuntu 10 onto a machine with a raid. GParted shows the disk and I can partition it, but when I run the included installer from the desktop, no device appears at all.
[22:30] <StaticSyphon> Anyone have any thoughts or tips as to what the issue might be?
[22:30] <fr0sted> symptom: tried making the changes and restarting ?
[22:30] <fr0sted> restartthe x server sometimes doesnt work
[22:30] <fr0sted> i found this out with the nvidia driver issue for unity and dualscreens
[22:31] <StaticSyphon> Wondering if there is some kind of driver that might need to be enabled? Strange that GParted would see it though.
[22:32] <manbra_laptop> Hey, how can I access my windows XP partition from ubuntu 11.04?  They are both on the same hard drives, diff. partitions
[22:32] <Saw> I'm trying to connect from my windows OS to a linux os, which is hosted inside vm. Connect to an sql db that is. From inside the linux os it self, everything is working (locally). I can also connect using localhost ip. I can ping to the 'outside ip. I can't however connect to it using mysql port (3306). Any ideas?
[22:32] <jazz710> Hello everyone. I just installed Ubuntu 11.04 onto a Dell PowerEdge which should be quite fast. I'm noticing that while it can run analyses quickly, the graphics side of things are really sluggish?
[22:32] <th0r> manbra_laptop: put a line in fstab mounting the ntfs partition to a mountpoint
[22:33] <ThePendulum> jazz710: Did you install the appropriate drivers for your graphics card?
[22:34] <Matth1a3> when I create an executable using make from a folder on the desktop - where does it go?\
[22:34] <manbra_laptop> th0r, thank you.  I'm reading up on fstab now.  I think this is what I need
[22:34] <DeviceZer0> Matth1a3, did you run "make install"
[22:34] <th0r> manbra_laptop: you might need to install ntfs-3g, not sure if it is installed by default in ubuntu
[22:35] <Matth1a3> DeviceZer0: no I did make -f makefile.unix bitcoind
[22:35] <DeviceZer0> Matth1a3, also its very dependent on the application...traditionally applications you compile your self will use "/usr/local" so the binary(executable) would be in /usr/local/bin/
[22:36] <DeviceZer0> oh no idea Matth1a3....its using its own custom make file
[22:36] <DeviceZer0> look around in the subfolders
[22:36] <raevol> anyone else's flash player get broken in a recent update? any fix available?
[22:36] <raevol> using chromium from the stable ppa
[22:36] <DeviceZer0> if you ran that as NOT ROOT....it should be in of the subfolders...if you ran it as root....it could have installed to any folder.
[22:37] <DeviceZer0> raevol, flash has been working great for me on firefox.
[22:37] <DeviceZer0> iirc there is a command that you sometimes have to run for chrome to have chrome relocate the new flash version
[22:37] <Matth1a3> it created an executable file in the folder that the makefile resides, but when I try to run it I get bitcoind: command not found
[22:37] <StaticSyphon> Anyone have any thoughts about installing on a raid 1? Or could point me to some reading material on the topic?
[22:38] <DeviceZer0> Matth1a3, how are you running it?
[22:39] <Matth1a3> i just type bitcoind -server
[22:39] <Matth1a3> maybe I have to copy it to usr/local/bin
[22:39] <Matth1a3> ?
[22:39] <DeviceZer0> Matth1a3, if you ONLY type "bitcoind" it wont work. when you simply type a command it looks in your system $PATH(try "echo $PATH"
[22:39] <raevol> DeviceZer0: any ideas on what that command is? :( google is less than helpful
[22:39] <Spikestuff> How do I get rid of the Unity bar in Ubuntu 11.04?
[22:39] <DeviceZer0> Matth1a3, nope run it as "./bitcoind -server" in the same folder
[22:40] <DeviceZer0> raevol, i looked and did not see it. give me a sec
[22:40] <Saw> .. anyone?
[22:40] <xangua> !classic | Spikestuff
[22:41] <symptom> i made changes to synaptic via synclient and syndaemon, but Im trying to figure out how to make them persist accross reboot.... any help?
[22:41] <Spikestuff> Thanks xangua.
[22:41] <flameb>  Hello
[22:41] <DeviceZer0> raevol, i cant find it. google around for "linux flash chrome" or different combos of that.
[22:41] <DeviceZer0> you may even need to just rm a file that chrome uses to regenerate
[22:41] <manbra_laptop> th0r, I'm a bit lost here.  I'm following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab.  I used sudo blkid and found my windows drive on /dev/sda1.  Then I go to /etc/ and put in fstab dev/sda1 and it gives me command not found.  fstab by itself also gives me command not found.  If I dir the directly there is a file in there called fstab
[22:41] <raevol> DeviceZer0: thanks :[ i'll see what i can find
[22:42] <Matth1a3> DeviceZer0: thanks, i think that is working
[22:42] <DeviceZer0> manbra_laptop, fstab is not a command
[22:42] <DeviceZer0> Matth1a3, right on :)
[22:42] <manbra_laptop> oh, god damn it.
[22:42] <DeviceZer0> manbra_laptop, what are you wanting to do? mount windows partition once? or ALWAYS mount it at boot?
[22:42] <th0r> manbra_laptop: ok...first, make sure you can read/write the partition. Make a folder in your home folder (mkdir /home/username/windowxp
[22:43] <flameb> Who Speak Spanish?+
[22:43] <th0r> manbra_laptop: then mount the partition there (sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /home/username/windowsxp)
[22:43] <dude> beavis speaks spanish
[22:43] <DeviceZer0> flameb, i think there is a spanish help channel
[22:43] <xangua> !es | flameb
[22:43] <savid> What's the correct cron format for "every tuesday at 7am" ?
[22:43] <th0r> manbra_laptop: if it works you should see your windowsxp in that folder in your home dir
[22:44] <dude> cargando caramba andando grrrrrr bunghole!
[22:44] <flameb> ubottu thanks
[22:44] <th0r> manbra_laptop: once you are sure it works, just add the following line to /etc/fstab (sudo nano /etc/fstab)...
[22:44] <jgcampbell300> I have a question about daemons ... the init.d script wants a name for it to start the daemon as (i think) ... but i cant seem to ask the right question to google to give me information of exactly what i need to learn to create daemon users
[22:45] <dude> who invented fstab?
[22:45] <jgcampbell300> frank stabith
[22:45] <jgcampbell300> lol jk
[22:45] <th0r> manbra_laptop: the line looks like this....../dev/sda1  /home/username/windowsxp ntfs rw,user,noauto 0  0
[22:46] <th0r> manbra_laptop: if the mount command doesn't work let me know
[22:46] <jgcampbell300> dude, good question ... im sure google would point you in the right direction to find that answer
[22:46] <manbra_laptop> th0r, I got an error message.  One sec, screenshotting.
[22:47] <jgcampbell300> can anyone point me to an page with information about creating users for system ??? users - i dont know what to call it .. a user that is not human
[22:47] <th0r> manbra_laptop: try using -t ntfs-3g in the mount command
[22:48] <manbra_laptop> th0r, I made the /home/username directory.  Then I did "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /home/username/windowsxp
[22:49] <manbra_laptop> Oh, nvm, I see what I did wrong
[22:49] <fenjamin> im back
[22:51] <keithb> savid: 0 7 * * 2
[22:52] <punter> My VPS provider has set /etc/apt/sources.list to its own repositories, which have not been updated for days. Can I just change the appropriate line to point to security.ubuntu.com and then press 'u' from aptitude?
[22:53] <punter> Will that break existing packages?
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> punter: should be fine as long as you stick to the same release
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> punter: also: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ ;)
[22:54] <punter> thanks ActionParsnip
[22:54] <manbra_laptop> th0r, it mounted.  I can access the partition w/ places and by terminal.  I'm trying to add that line w/ nano.  Does it matter where I put it?  And, how do I save inside of nano?
[22:54] <punter> ok
[22:55] <dude> oneric with gnome2 is possible
[22:55] <th0r> manbra_laptop: you save with Ctrl-X and then follow the prompts to save. The line should go at the end of the fstab file
[22:55] <Gr8Q> hi there! what can i do from control network panel i cannot see my wired network card
[22:55] <dude> save me from gnome3 and unuty
[22:55] <th0r> manbra_laptop: fyi....the mount command is for one off mounts. If you put the line into /etc/fstab it will automatically mount every time the computer boots
[22:55] <redmenace> hi, i have a prblm with blender. when i downloaded it and tried to launch the executable nothing happed
[22:55] <redmenace> *happened
[22:56] <bazhang> dude, you installed the gnome3 ppa? on 11.04?
[22:56] <redmenace> me?
[22:57] <bazhang> dude, or were you asking an #ubuntu+1 question ; ie oneiric
[22:57] <manbra_laptop> th0r, thank you for the help.  Sorry for being such a linux nub.
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> dude: there is an unofficial fork called 'mate' documented on omgubuntu
[22:58] <th0r> manbra_laptop: I had the same questions once....then the dinosaurs died
[22:58] <manbra_laptop> lol.
[22:59] <phong_> guys, will you give me suggestion?   should i install ubuntu as main and have windows as vmware?
[22:59] <phong_> or windows as main and ubuntu in virtual?
[22:59] <phong_> what do you guys think?
[22:59] <StaticSyphon> anyone know if there are drivers for adaptec 1420sa raid card?
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> phong_: what do you intend to use each OS for??
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> phong_: why not just dual boot?
[23:01] <szal> ActionParsnip: how about dual boot?
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> szal: waaaay ahead of you ;)
[23:01] <szal> lol
[23:01] <phong_> hmm, so i have to restart eveytime i need on each os ?
[23:01] <phong_> lol
[23:01] <phong_> hmm
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> phong_: ok, what are the OSes for?
[23:02] <phong_> for fun
[23:02] <phong_> not that i do anything
[23:02] <phong_> just to have it
[23:02] <rocky_> i have a question about the ubuntu clouding, i want to  play around with clouding b4 i make it everyday use. is it possible for me to simulate this process on 1 single machaine using vmware (1 cluster + 1 node)
[23:02] <phong_> maybe paybills with ubuntu
[23:02] <GOMI> anyone can give me some tips with installing a webcam with gspcav
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> phong_: then it doesn't matter, if you intend to game then make the windows OS the host
[23:02] <pAt_> then use Ubuntu as your main system phong :D
[23:02] <szal> gaming -> Windows on hardware..  resource-heavy Windows apps -> Windows on hardware..  all else -> Linux on hardware
[23:03] <Quantum_Ion> Tell me a good story
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> phong_: why do you even need windows?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: wrong channel dude
[23:03] <phong_> ActionParsnip, ok, i'm going to install main on each HD
[23:03] <szal> Quantum_Ion: we don't tell stories, we answer legitimate support questions
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> phong_: you don't appear to have a real need for WIndows...
[23:04] <phong_> probably not,
[23:04] <phong_> ;)
[23:04] <phong_> but i found that windows has more apps
[23:04] <phong_> my work use windows
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> phong_: so why complicate the system?
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> phong_: so what if your work uses windows...
[23:04] <phong_> ActionParsnip, currently i install 3 OSes as vmware
[23:05] <phong_> Win 7 -Host,  ubuntu, win2008 -> as vmware
[23:06] <rocky_> i have a question about the ubuntu clouding, i want to  play around with clouding b4 i make it everyday use. is it possible for me to simulate this process on 1 single machaine using vmware (1 cluster + 1 node)
[23:06] <phong_> can ubuntu run webserver?
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> phong_: you dn't seem to have any need for windows, I'm very confused as to why you are bothering with it
[23:06] <sythe> Hey
[23:06] <phong_> ok i try to learn ubuntu then
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> phong_: yes, may webservers use Linux
[23:06] <sythe> Does someone have something against XBMC?
[23:06] <sythe> It's nowhere in the repos
[23:07] <sythe> And...it's highly regarded
[23:07] <phong_> ActionParsnip, i will learn more ubuntu ..try to stay away from windows then
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> sythe: its ok, the xbmc team has a ppa
[23:07] <sythe> And...awesome
[23:07] <sythe> ActionParsnip: Not ok...
[23:07] <sythe> It's worthy of the repos...IMO
[23:07] <phong_> ActionParsnip, so if i want to have web server what do i need for ubuntu?
[23:07] <sythe> If PiTiVi can make it in, why can't XBMC, ActionParsnip?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> sythe: could add a suggestion on http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[23:08] <sythe> ActionParsnip: It's been around for years and years
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> sythe: those are totally different apps with different goals
[23:08] <sythe> They won't add it
[23:08] <sythe> ActionParsnip: And...PiTiVi is crap
[23:08] <sythe> Lol
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> sythe: maybe they will, there is an xbmc team ppa, you can add it and install the app
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> sythe: many use it
[23:09] <sythe> I mean....really, really, really obscure crap is there
[23:09] <sythe> In the repos
[23:09] <sythe> And XBMC isn't
[23:10] <sythe> In fact, they still have Fluendo's media center
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> sythe: all I can suggest is add the ppa and.or make the suggestion
[23:10] <klj613> can somone explain why i cant change folder permissions via nautilus if im using nautilus as 'root'.
[23:10] <sythe> And...it's cancelled
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> klj613: is the folder on an ntfs partition by any chance?
[23:10] <GunClive> hi. is it true that ubuntu 11.04 has no partimage package? thanks
[23:10] <sythe> ActionParsnip: You're telling me that nobody has tried that?
[23:10] <sythe> I'm sure someone has
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> sythe: tried what?
[23:10] <klj613> ActionParsnip: yes
[23:11] <sythe> ActionParsnip: Suggesting it
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> klj613: that's why. NTFS os far too basic to hold linux file permissions, you set the file access at mount
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> sythe: maybe they did
[23:11] <klj613> ActionParsnip: i used aptana IDE to copy a project. now PHP cant do nothing with the files.
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> sythe: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc   please
[23:12] <xangua> GunClive: if you mean gparted , it's on repository
[23:12] <klj613> ActionParsnip: i have setup mount correctly (so i think) as it worked, but the folder was copied now i got to remount? each time theres a new file?
[23:12] <maxflax> was wondering about the installer - when trying to install on my macbook I get the option in the setup if I want to save my MacOS installation and install ubuntu on the side.. is that gonna work right out of the box?
[23:12] <vehemoth> hi, how would I go about scrolling text in tty
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> klj613: you set the mount as writable, it will apply to the whole filesystem
[23:13] <maxflax> Thought u had to do the partitioning manual for the macbook comp
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> sythe: https://launchpad.net/~team-xbmc/+archive/ppa    is a ppa, it has up to maverick on it
[23:13] <rocky_> i have a question about the ubuntu clouding, i want to  play around with clouding b4 i make it everyday use. is it possible for me to simulate this process on 1 single machaine using vmware (1 cluster + 1 node)
[23:14] <GunClive> xangua, no partimage.
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> rocky_: I guess, if you limit the CPU use on the VMs
[23:14] <klj613> ActionParsnip: how would i mount it as writable?
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> !mount | klj613
[23:15] <GunClive> could someone check if partimage appears in synaptic under 11.04? thanks.
[23:15] <xangua> !info partimage | GunClive
[23:15] <qin> vehemoth: Shift-PgUp/PgDown
[23:15] <bungholio> i just downloaded a font, how do i add that to my selection?
[23:16] <klj613> ActionParsnip: already been through that, although i ended up using a GUI (PySDM) which in the options i cant see 'writable'. although i assume u mean somthing like the umask?
[23:16] <xangua> bungholio: double clic on it to install it
[23:16] <xangua> or just move it to .fonts
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> klj613: you can also use the remount option of mount
[23:16] <rocky_> ActionParsnip ok awsome if thats the only limitation im good. i just want to test this whole thing out b4 i install the operation systems on decated machines
[23:17] <rocky_> *operating*
[23:17] <klj613> ActionParsnip: then remount again next time i boot up, then again. i been through that months ago when i reverted back to windows for obvious reasons
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> klj613: not so obvious to me
[23:18] <vehemoth> thanks qin; your a life saver
[23:18] <klj613> ActionParsnip: that i dont want to play around with mount each time i boot up the pc
[23:19] <minashokry> hello, I can't run glxgears. I get "Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual" message, any clues?
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> klj613: if its an internal partition, you can add an entry to /etc/fstab and it will mount automagically and with the options you set
[23:21] <klj613> which i dont earlier, but the options doesnt seem to be applying to 'new folders' hence why php cant do nothing with them. going to try restart pc atm as i cant unmount the device (its busy) although i closed everything to do with the device
[23:23] <minashokry> please guys, anyone has clues?
[23:24] <jgcampbell300> can anyone answer me this ... i am looking for a free solution to TeamViewer to run on ubuntu to fix people i knows computers from remote locations
[23:25] <jsec> jgcampbell300: why not use TeamViewer?
[23:26] <jgcampbell300> jsec, i cant afford it just yet
[23:26] <szal> jgcampbell300: TeamViewer is free
[23:26] <jsec> jgcampbell300: ^^ that
[23:26] <bungholio> is there a logout command? sudo logout?
[23:26] <Onlyodin> killall -9 gnome-session?
[23:26] <szal> jgcampbell300: drawback: it runs on Wine, so might not be perfect just yet
[23:27] <jgcampbell300> jsec, even if im going to charge people
[23:27] <bungholio> Onlyodin: thanks
[23:27] <jsec> szal: iirc, TeamViewer has a linux port now?
[23:27] <szal> jsec: a Linux "port", heavily utilizing Wine
[23:27] <bungholio> Onlyodin: didn't work.
[23:27] <Onlyodin> bungholio, welcome
[23:28] <Onlyodin> oh
[23:28] <szal> they prolly customized a Wine lib for their needs
[23:28] <jsec> szal: that's kind of funny.
[23:28] <Onlyodin> with sudo or without?
[23:28] <JZApples> Is anyone aware of a way to have nautilus keep the folder highlighted when you move forward and backward between folders.  For example if I go into a folder from a long list of other folders and then click the back button, i would like to have the folder that i just went into highlighted so i know where i was.
[23:29] <bungholio> Onlyodin: tried both.
[23:31] <Onlyodin> something must've worked
[23:32] <bungholio> Onlyodin: i got it - killall -KILL -u (NAME)
[23:32] <bungholio> Onlyodin: thanks though
[23:32] <fr0sted> hey all, does anyone know anything about the brioadcast accounts ? if i try to update my status etc, nothing happens, but i am able to like stuff ?
[23:33] <fr0sted> any help would be groovy !
[23:33] <szal> briodcast?
[23:33] <fr0sted> broadcast
[23:33] <Onlyodin> bungholio, another alternative might be to try sudo service gdm restart
[23:33] <szal> what's that supposed to be?
[23:33] <fr0sted> using gwibber, and it doesnt post my updates
[23:33] <bungholio> Onlyodin: okay, cool thanks!
[23:34] <freebird> you guys, the ubuntu I' ve installed yesterdat came with a left bar that I definitively don't want it, how do I get back to normal ?
[23:34] <fr0sted> do you know of another social app thats better ?
[23:34] <CajunTechie> Hi everyone. Does anyone know of a good tool to search text across multiple files? I have 17k diles in a directory and need to search for specific text in one of them (I don't know which one)
[23:34] <freebird> please
[23:34] <phong_> anyone know how to install web server for ubuntu?
[23:34] <qin> CajunTechie: grep
[23:34] <fr0sted> freebird:  on login, change to ubuntu classic
[23:34] <CajunTechie> phong: look at XAMPP
[23:34] <fr0sted> on the bottom bar
[23:34] <freebird> fr0sted,
[23:34] <freebird> nice, I'll try
[23:34] <CajunTechie> Dug qin. Thanks! lol I completely forgot about that
[23:35] <fr0sted> freebird:  enjoy
[23:35] <CajunTechie> Duh rather
[23:35] <exutux> CajunTechie: OMG why suggest XAMMP
[23:35] <fr0sted> so any ideas with the broadcast ?
[23:35] <CajunTechie> exutux: because it's easy for people starting out to use and grasp. What's wrong with it?
[23:35] <fr0sted> xammp is good with windows
[23:35] <exutux> phong_: web server for what? web server is apache generally but if you want use php and mysql you nedd LAMP
[23:35] <StaticSyphon> any one have ideas about getting an adaptec 1420sa raid card to work with Ubuntu?
[23:36] <exutux> CajunTechie: isn't easy is freaky
[23:36] <exutux> !lamp | phong_
[23:36] <minashokry> Hello, I installed fglrx by mistake (I don't have ATI card) and after that I can't login to unity anymore. I uninstalled fglrx but still can't login to unity. any clues?
[23:36] <GunClive> partimage does not appear in my repositories. but it should be in 11.04. how can this happen? thanks
[23:36] <CajunTechie> extutux: Huh? How is it not easy? You install it in like two commands?!? lol I'm not saying use it for production or anything but..
[23:37] <yeats> !info partimage
[23:38] <JZApples> Is anyone aware of a way to have nautilus keep the folder highlighted when you move forward and backward between folders.  For example if I go into a folder from a long list of other folders and then click the back button, i would like to have the folder that i just went into highlighted so i know where i was.
[23:38] <exutux> CajunTechie: LAMP in only one command then... look above what ubottu says about LAMP
[23:38] <CajunTechie> exutux: XAMPP *is* LAMP. It's just a preconfigured install of it.
[23:38] <GunClive> yeats, i know it should be available. but it is not on my computer. but on my other computer it is
[23:38] <exutux> nope
[23:39] <atyoung> CajunTechie, fraid not, it's missing the L :P
[23:39] <exutux> CajunTechie: XAMMP isn't LAMP is a fake for linux... :)
[23:39] <CajunTechie> lol
[23:39] <zul__> I've a problem with git commit in permissions.. who can help me?
[23:40] <fr0sted> oh nvm i found the problem and the fix for gwibber
[23:41] <yeats> GunClive: check to see that universe is one of the repos you have selected
[23:41] <CajunTechie> Fr0sted: What was the problem? I'm having a huge prob with the current gwibber myself
[23:41] <exutux> CajunTechie: and most important thing...XAMPP isn't in the official repos too ...ok OT finished :p
[23:42] <CajunTechie> exutux Good point. But I'm sure if he can use LAMP he can figure out how to download and untar a file properly. I hope at least!
[23:43] <CajunTechie> Holy crap, grp is taking FOREVER to search these files :-(
[23:43] <CajunTechie> grep rather
[23:43] <GunClive> yeats, it is. but does not appear
[23:43] <GunClive> yeats, i am using 64 bit system. is that the reason?
[23:44] <BlueProtoman> Does anybody here have Ubuntu 11.04 64-bit and WINE, and would be willing to test a few programs for me?
[23:45] <BlueProtoman> I'm getting a System76 in a few months, and I might play some games on it with WINE.
[23:45] <exutux> CajunTechie: ok and apache2 ( fake apache inside XAMPP ) doesn't will have important security updates in that way...athoer good points for don't choose XAMPP? :p
[23:46] <exutux> s/athoer/other/
[23:46] <yeats> GunClive: apparently so, looking at http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/partimage
[23:46] <yeats> GunClive: I use 64 bit and can confirm that it does not install
[23:47] <GunClive> yeats, thank you. i thought my system was corrupted. but now i am relieved.
[23:47] <qin> BlueProtoman: Use wine appdb on they website.
[23:47] <BlueProtoman> qin: I know, but it doesn't have data for all the things I wanna use.
[23:48] <yeats> GunClive: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1358546
[23:48] <qin> BlueProtoman: Then #winehg may be good place.
[23:48] <bazhang> BlueProtoman, #winehq not here
[23:48] <BlueProtoman> Thanks, then.
[23:49] <Pici> 54
[23:51] <olfireball> hi, who does wap pages here?
[23:51] <szal> !ot | olfireball
[23:51] <meomic> hey anyone else have 2 thunderbird windows on buntu 11.04? - ive started thunderbird once - i have this for 1-2 weeks already - dunno what to say about it lol
[23:51] <zul__> anybody use git?
[23:51] <james_> i do
[23:51] <james_> for pretty much all my vcs stuff
[23:52] <yeats> zul__: what's your question?
[23:52] <zul__> james can you help me?
[23:52] <james_> zul__, i can try my best
[23:52] <zul__> ok
[23:52] <zul__> well when I try to commit a file in a git repo I get this error
[23:52] <zul__> Counting objects: 5, done.
[23:52] <zul__> Delta compression using up to 4 threads.
[23:52] <zul__> Compressing objects: 100% (3/3), done.
[23:52] <zul__> Writing objects: 100% (3/3), 291 bytes, done.
[23:52] <zul__> Total 3 (delta 2), reused 0 (delta 0)
[23:52] <zul__> error: insufficient permission for adding an object to repository database ./objects
[23:52] <FloodBot1> zul__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:52] <satch5150> hi all, trying to get xen installed on  natty amd64 - apparently there is no libc6-xen pacakge for amd64 - how do I work around this ?
[23:53] <james_> zul__, is this when you're trying to push to master or actually commit a file locally
[23:53] <feydr> what is ubuntu use virtuoso for? -- just upgraded and it's smacking my cpu around -- it's a sql db but not sure what it's being used for
[23:54] <zul__> I get that error after doing: git add filename; git commit -a -m "message"; git push
[23:54] <james_> zul__, you're going to want to check your ./.git/config file within your local repo, check which user the origin 'master' is using, and verify on the remote side that that user has sufficient privileges to the entire repo store
[23:55] <james_> your origin 'master' setting will look something like:
[23:55] <james_> remote = user@host:/path/to/repo
[23:55] <yeats> satch5150: this is from about a year ago, but http://www.virtualmin.com/node/15389
[23:55] <GunClive> yeats, i could compile the most recent version of partimage for 64 bit for myself even without any programming skills right? thanks again.
[23:55] <satch5150> yeats: thanks
[23:56] <zul__> I see this:
[23:56] <james_> careful not to paste too much again :P
[23:57] <zul__>         repositoryformatversion = 0
[23:57] <zul__>         filemode = true
[23:57] <zul__>         bare = false
[23:57] <zul__>         logallrefupdates = true
[23:57] <zul__> [remote "origin"]
[23:57] <FloodBot1> zul__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:57] <zul__>         fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/*
[23:57] <exutux> james_: tha famous last words lol
[23:57] <yeats> GunClive: compiling typically doesn't involve programming skills, though I would look at http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/partimage before installing from source
[23:58] <satch5150> I'm not sure that helps me much, since I'm trying to do this through apt and I have no idea where an install.sh is edit
[23:58] <zul__> james are you there?
[23:58] <exutux> !paste | zul__
[23:59] <zul__> ok sorry exutus
[23:59] <phenrique> Quem consegue invadir esse site? www.hatin.net?
[23:59] <phenrique> Who can invade that site? www.hatin.net?
[23:59] <bazhang> !ot | phenrique


[02:43] <Noskcaj> Logan_, mind if i merge dahdi-tools?
[03:15] <mfisch> Noskcaj: I'm not sure if this is official policy, but for desktop packages can you please file a bug for your package updates? That way we can track who is working on something already
[03:16] <mfisch> Noskcaj: it is at least an unofficially recommended policy for desktop according to the guys I've worked with
[03:18] <mfisch> Noskcaj: we track said work here (http://people.canonical.com/~platform/desktop/ubuntu-desktop.html) and the bug link is helpful
[03:19] <mfisch> Noskcaj: and after all this I realized I misread the package name you worked on and it's not in desktop, I fail :(
[04:23] <Noskcaj> thanks for the link mfisch. I didn't know that existed. I'll file a bug when i get time to work on the package.
[04:46] <Noskcaj> mfisch, dahdi isn't on that list though
[08:59] <Noskcaj> bzr won't run merge-upstream for me. It keeps crashing at pritine-tar
[23:41] <micahg> jbicha: are you fixing blender in saucy?
[23:43] <jbicha> micahg: uh, it may take a while for me to figure out which commits ported to the new libav
[23:43] <jbicha> I did test-build but I forgot that the build failed :(
[23:45] <micahg> jbicha: ok, thanks
[23:46] <jbicha> if you can figure it out faster, you're welcome to fix it yourself; upstream uses svn which isn't as fun