[09:04] <slyfox> mcphail: before "# m h  dom mon dow   command" or after ?
[09:04] <goodgerster> z0rz: if nobody answers, nobody knows
 connection fail. it does not connect to any repositories
[09:04] <z0rz> Alright, thanks
[09:04] <wezzie> !nvidia
[09:04] <juano__> TtyS2: yes, netbios is active over tcp/ip
[09:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:04] <goldbond> hey. i am trying to specify port 2200 for an ssh session. what is the correct syntax?
[09:04] <mcphail> slyfox: after
[09:04] <juano__> TtyS2:  i am ICS from winxp to the ubuntu pc
[09:05] <goodgerster> omniti: do you have AOL? do you have a working internet connection to the PC involved? can you ping google from said PC? have you got a firewall or such program installed?
[09:05] <z0rz> over 1000 people in here.. no one knows.. So no one was able to get oracle-xe running?
[09:05] <slyfox> mcphail: ok, done, next?
[09:05] <TtyS2> juano__: the fw in xp activated?
[09:05] <goodgerster> z0rz: presumably nobody has tried
[09:05] <mcphail> slyfox: does the terminal say something like "crontab written" when you close kate?
[09:05] <goodgerster> z0rz: tbh the chance of someone having specialist troubleshooting knowledge of Oracle software is quite a bit less than 1/1015
 i can navegate, i can ping google, and I have firestarter installed but not running
[09:06] <slyfox> mcphail: nope, I have this crontab: installing new crontab
[09:06] <mmcfeely> woot my video card drivers installed now just to get wifi
[09:06] <mcphail> slyfox: that's the one! (i'm doing this from memory... :))
[09:06] <z0rz> oracle-xe is arguable the most popular db system there is... and I'm just trying to get it installed.. it's not like I'm working on the source code of it or anything
[09:06] <slyfox> mmcfeely: get neworkmanager
[09:06] <juano__> TtyS2: not for local area network, only for ADSL ethernet card
[09:06] <mmcfeely> link
[09:06] <slyfox> mcphail: can you please tell me waht we did and waht does it do ?
[09:06] <goodgerster> omniti: can you ping the APT server in question?
[09:06] <mmcfeely> will it work with intel abg wireless notebook
 if i can ping the repository?
[09:07] <goodgerster> omniti: indeed
[09:07] <mcphail> slyfox: the cron program executes command at times you specify. "@reboot" means "do this command when the computer starts up"
[09:07] <mmcfeely> Heres the problem I can see wireless essids but I can not connect to any secured or not secured
[09:07] <z0rz> dmddmd
[09:08] <mcphail> slyfox: the "crontab" program allows you to tell cron which programs to run
 just a sec
[09:08] <slyfox> mcphail: should I restart now and see if it works ?
[09:08] <yrana1980> what is the best ubuntu product can any one help me in this ?
 yes, 0% loss on archive.ubuntu.com
[09:08] <mcphail> slyfox: cross your fingers and try it
[09:08] <goldbond> i am trying to find out how to swich ports for an ssh session. surprisingly google is not helpful. if someone knows how, i would appreiciate it. thanks
[09:08] <TtyS2> juano__: out of idea, those 2 things and misspelling of workgroup are the common things when it comes to xp, having the same sett upp with no trouble although i disabled the xp fw completly due to he fact that i got a better fw
[09:08] <b0ef> ehlo, is argouml available in ubuntu?. I can't see it when I use apt-cache search, but it gives some output
[09:08] <juano__> TtyS2: this also happens beetween windows and windows, when i boot to windows from this pc, the first ten minutes of browsing , everything seems fine, then, this pc vanishes from network, but i can always access it by typing \\pcname, its just odd that it wouldnt appear in my network places
[09:08] <goodgerster> omniti: please pastebin the output from apt-get update
[09:09] <jimfear> hi... one of my disks doesn't show up in ubuntu, I think it hasn't been formatted yet... where do I find the partition manager so I can format it?
[09:09] <mmcfeely> goodgerster you wouldn't hqave a page for help with ipw3945-1.1.0 would you?
[09:09] <slyfox> mcphail: ok, thank you. Will be back.
[09:09] <goodgerster> jimfear: you need to install said partition manager, its package is called gparted
[09:09] <goodgerster> mmcfeely: er, no. although google probably does
[09:09] <omniti> sudo apt-get update
[09:09] <omniti> Err http://archive.canonical.com dapper-commercial Release.gpg
[09:09] <omniti>   Conexo falhou.
[09:09] <omniti> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg
[09:09] <omniti>   Conexo falhou. [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[09:09] <omniti> Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release.gpg
[09:09] <mmcfeely> k ty
[09:09] <LjL> Ubotu, tell omniti about paste | omniti, see the private message from Ubotu
[09:09] <jimfear> okay, i just thought it was included since i could use it during the install
[09:09] <jimfear> but i'll try, thanks
[09:10] <goodgerster> !pastebin | omniti
[09:10] <ubotu> omniti: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:10] <SecrethX> Okay, got it running in recovery mode..
[09:10] <goodgerster> SecrethX: yay
[09:10] <TtyS2> juano__: u got a browsing problem in the win group, what u could do is to use the host file but that would include putting static ip on the computers u wish to reach
[09:10] <AnkleBiter_> say ay!! if your looking forward to Ubuntu Studio!!!
[09:10] <SecrethX> goodgerster, but not in real mode ;P
[09:10] <AnkleBiter_> ay!!
[09:10] <goodgerster> ay!!
[09:10] <omniti> sorry
[09:10] <bartmon> hi
[09:10] <bjames> Ubuntu Studio?
[09:10] <omniti> just a sec
[09:10] <SecrethX> ubuntu studio?
[09:11] <goodgerster> an audiovisual editing version of ubuntu
[09:11] <AnkleBiter_> www.ubuntustudio.com
[09:11] <juano__> TtyS2: yea, i tried editing lmhosts and hosts, except im using DHCP thats a prob yea
[09:11] <SecrethX> :o ok
[09:11] <LjL> omniti: the server might just be temporarily down. anyone noticed archive.ubuntu.com being down?
[09:11] <goodgerster> low-latency kernel, lots of audio stuff, video stuff etc etc ad probable nauseum
[09:11] <bjames> has anyone here used wxWidgets with kDevelop?
[09:11] <TtyS2> juano__: not if your the administrator and can exclude a range
[09:11] <ubuntu_> hoi
[09:11] <goodgerster> bjames: more likely on #kubuntu, I'm afraid
[09:12] <SecrethX> well, goodgerster do you have any suggestions for me? ;p
[09:12] <bartmon> I'm having issues understanding a condition in a shell script. Can someone explain what this is supposed to mean: if [ "$INMASK" = "" -a "$1" != "stop" ] ; then ? Thanks
[09:12] <AnkleBiter_> hjmills: are you back?
[09:12] <juano__> TtyS2: i should make like a 2 ip range
[09:12] <goodgerster> SecrethX: fraid not, I'm in the middle of a syllable review atm
[09:12] <ubuntu_> do you can install a live disk to your harddisk?
[09:12] <SecrethX> goodgerster, oh have fun, lol
 just a sec
[09:12] <jontec> is there any reason that my computer's colors switch between like 24 color depth to like 12 ( I dunno.... colors look BAD) amd64, Radeon Xpress 1150
[09:12] <goodgerster> ubuntu_: yes, this is how ubuntu is installed nowadays
[09:12] <goodgerster> omniti: ?
[09:13] <TtyS2> juano__: no 1 is good enough, saying from 100-200 then u can use static from 50-80 on units, say 10-20 on servers, 21-30 on printers
[09:13] <SecrethX> goodgerster, trying normal mode now, I reversed everything on that site
[09:13] <ubuntu_> anybody spreak dutch?
[09:14] <SecrethX> ubuntu_, #ubuntu-nl
[09:14] <AnkleBiter_> ubuntu_: i speak a bit of german
[09:14] <TtyS2> juano__: and i recommend lease time 3 days on the range 100-200
[09:14] <goodgerster> SecrethX: ok
[09:14] <orangey> hey all.
[09:14] <SecrethX> AnkleBiter_, dutch != german :P
[09:14] <ubuntu_> no dutch? nederlands
[09:14] <MasterLexx> right
[09:14] <AnkleBiter_> lol
[09:14] <MasterLexx> ich wei es
[09:14] <SecrethX> ubuntu_, ga naar #ubuntu-nl
 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2567/
[09:14] <SecrethX> anyway, brb now
[09:14] <whil> i have a major ip problem anyone have a minute?
[09:15] <orangey> I'm having a particular problem with my screen blanking.. As soon as anything happens in acpi (i.e., thermal zone change), then the screen gets reactivated.. any ideas on how to debug this?
[09:15] <AnkleBiter_> du bist gay!!! hahahahaha....ahh that was crap.....
[09:15] <TtyS2> juano__: but u got a range of possible errors on the win computers, ranging from wins to dns to browser sett incorrectly
[09:15] <goodgerster> I suppose "Conexo falhou" means connection failed..
 yes
[09:15] <slyfox> mcphail: !!!
[09:15] <leobloo2> yess good
[09:16] <adamwest> anyone here
[09:16] <leobloo2> are you Portuguese??=o)
[09:16] <slyfox> mcphail: It worked ! Super, thank you very much !
[09:16] <omniti> I'm brazilian
[09:16] <goodgerster> omniti: I've no idea why that's happened. try googling for a sources.list generator
[09:16] <mcphail> slyfox: :)
[09:16] <adamwest> i'm having problems with my iaudio x5 ...
[09:16] <ubuntu_> some one coming out the UK?
[09:16] <none-> Hi
[09:16] <slyfox> mcphail: Is there somewhere I can read about what we just did, I really want to learn it myself so that I know how to do it next time
[09:16] <mcphail> slyfox: you should still consider filing a bug. What i told you is an ugly hack
[09:16] <AnkleBiter_> can anyone help me set up my wifi network
[09:17] <bartmon> Any shell scripters in here?
[09:17] <slyfox> AnkleBiter_: just get network manager and that should do it
[09:17] <mcphail> slyfox: "man 5 crontab" is a good start
[09:17] <ubuntu_> some one spreak RUSSISCH?
[09:17] <ubuntu_> roija
[09:17] <AnkleBiter_> slyfox, is that built into ubuntu?
[09:17] <slyfox> mcphail: Should I google that? - "man 5 crontab"
[09:17] <leobloo2> guys do you know whtere installing icewm on ubuntu wiill cut away  the possibility to download stuff from ubuntu repos? I 'm not sure compatibility is good enough =o/
[09:18] <SzArAk> slyfox: no, write it in a console
[09:18] <rob_p> bartmon: What do you need?
[09:18] <bartmon> rob_p: What does the -a condition in this statement do: [ "$INMASK" = "" -a "$1" != "stop"]   ???
[09:18] <mcphail> slyfox: just type it in in a terminal
[09:18] <slyfox> AnkleBiter_: Ubunut has wireless assistant which does not suport WPA but works, Get Network Manager and that should solve all hte issues. Get it from synaptic
[09:18] <slyfox> mcphail: nice, ok
[09:18] <SecrethX> goodgerster, im never ever gonna use beryl again :/
[09:18] <slyfox> mcphail: Whank you very much.
[09:18] <SecrethX> goodgerster, metacity still isnt loaded :x
[09:18] <goodgerster> SecrethX: good idea
[09:19] <z0rz> So where are the oracle log files normally at?
[09:19] <z0rz> nothing in /var/log that I can see
[09:19] <rob_p> bartmon: the -a is a shell built-in.    :-) I mean Thank You very much !!! sorry about the typo :-)
[09:20] <rellik_> what's a good mp3 player for linux?  I want something with a music organizer like iTunes (preferrably) or winamp
[09:20] <mcphail> slyfox: ;p
[09:20] <LjL> !language | SecrethX
[09:20] <ubotu> SecrethX: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:20] <seanh> Was wondering how totem, gxine, ogle and mplayer compare to totem-xine which I currently use for watching DVDs in Edgy? Which is the best way to watch DVDs in Edgy? Totem-xine freezes on me fairly often, maybe a faulty DVD drive, maybe a bug. maybe scratched DVDs
[09:20] <SecrethX> sorry LjL  ;o
[09:20] <bartmon> rob_p: I have no idea in what context -a is being used there. It looks like a logical operator because it's in between two logical statements
[09:20] <rob_p> bartmon: Yeah, it seems a little vague.  But yes, the -a means file exists.
[09:21] <bipolar> rellik_: Amarok
[09:21] <bartmon> f00kin firestarter! >:(
[09:21] <vonk> hi guys
[09:22] <vonk> i've got a prolly stupid question for ya guys
[09:22] <rellik_> bipolar, do you have to run kde for amarok?
[09:22] <adamwest> i'm having problems with my IAUDIO... it won't show the real free space it has
[09:22] <bipolar> rellik_: no
[09:22] <rellik_> bipolar, thanks I'll check it out
[09:22] <deafboy> how do i give azureus rights to write to it's directory?
[09:22] <deafboy> its installed in opt
[09:23] <pwuertz>  /server irc.quakenet.org
[09:23] <bartmon> deafboy: Az should only write in your home directory
[09:23] <vonk> i've got a problem playing shockwave flash files online
[09:23] <bartmon> deafboy: That's where it's configuration should be stored
[09:24] <deafboy> bartmon: it's trying to update and it can't write to opt
[09:24] <vonk> i've tried installing amazing media browser, but it doesn't make a difference
[09:24] <deafboy> bartmon: to update it's core
[09:24] <mark__o> !clone
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <mark__o> !backup
[09:24] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[09:24] <mark__o> !cloning
[09:24] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade"
[09:24] <mmcfeely> what would be the easiest way yo build and install a ieee80211 subsystem
[09:24] <LjL> !close is <alias> cloning
[09:24] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[09:24] <LjL> !clone is <alias> cloning
[09:24] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[09:25] <bartmon> deafboy: It seems strange that AZ wants to save it's components outside your home directory
[09:25] <mark__o> ooh cool bot
[09:25] <bartmon> deafboy: are there any errors reported?
[09:26] <mark__o> are you talking about Azureus
[09:26] <bartmon> yes
[09:26] <mark__o> It's so hard to update
[09:26] <pbureau> I have a wifi card, that is configured and reconized, I have supplicant and Kwlan, I can scan and see the WPA/54g network but when I add it gives me this error message, "Failed to save the wpa_supplicant configuration. Is update_config=1 defined in wpa_supplicant.conf?" how do i fix this?
[09:26] <mark__o> Needs admin privs
[09:26] <deafboy> says it doesn't have access writes to write to /opt/azureus
[09:26] <grout> what are everyones favorite php linux web apps like ampache or phpsysinfo etc.......
[09:26] <deafboy> so it fails to update
[09:26] <mark__o> i know
[09:26] <mark__o> anything better than az
[09:26] <SoulChild> HEY, my Ubuntu boots in 39 seconds (bootchart) is that good?
[09:26] <mark__o> or a good workaround?
[09:26] <SoulChild> i want it to boot as fast as possible
[09:27] <adamwest> ANYONE? :\
[09:27] <bartmon> deafboy: If you want it to update into that folder you should run AZ as root, e.g. "sudo azureus &"
[09:28] <mark__o> bartmon: az opens a helper app to update, and that does not have root, so update fails anyway
[09:28] <gustaf_> I want to connect to a WPA-secured wireless network at boot, any pointers? using edgy
[09:28] <bartmon> Then I guess you could temporarily shange permissions for that folder so others can write to that directory
[09:29] <mark__o> good idea
[09:29] <rob_p> bartmon: The -a produces syntactical errors no matter how I try to adjust it.  I think what the user intended was, "&&" instead of the -a.
[09:29] <rob_p> bartmon: If that was the case, then the following will work, "if [[ "$INMASK" == "" && "$1" != "stop" ] ] ; then..."
[09:29] <deafboy> bartwon: i just changed ownership from root to me
[09:29] <bartmon> rob_p: The script executes though... Because the echo statement inside the if block executes
[09:30] <mark__o> so I'm in the live cd. How do I run the "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade" on a target hard disk
[09:30] <_Odin_> chile
[09:30] <bartmon> deafboy: that should work as well, yes
[09:30] <rob_p> bartmon: Interesting!  I couldn't make it work here.
[09:30] <bartmon> after the updating you should set the ownership back to root
[09:30] <deafboy> bartwon: so the command "sudo azureus" says command not found
[09:30] <_Odin_> #chile
[09:30] <deafboy> bartwon: is that because it isn't stored in /usr/bin?
[09:31] <mtyhome> does anybody mess around with networkmanager????
[09:31] <deafboy> mtyhome: i use connection manager :)
[09:32] <mmcfeely> how can I get my Viideo card to go past 54 Refresh
[09:32] <mtyhome> deafboy, any had any problems with wifi?
[09:32] <deafboy> mmcfeely: change xorg.conf
[09:32] <deafboy> mtyhome: nope
[09:32] <bartmon> deafboy: first do "sudo chown deafboy /opt/azureus/" then start azureus, let it update and later do "sudo chown root /opt/azureus/"
[09:32] <mmcfeely> k ty
[09:32] <deafboy> bartwon: thx :)
[09:32] <mtyhome> deafboy, nevermind then
[09:32] <mmcfeely> mtyhome I still can't get my wifi to work properly
[09:32] <z0rz> I tried to do apt-get isntall mailutils but I get  mailutils: Depends: libgnutls12 (>= 1.2.5) but it is not installable \n E: Broken packages
[09:32] <deafboy> mtyhome: what are your issues?
[09:33] <sidny4> mtyhome: I've tried network manager once, didn't get my wireless to work right with it so I just used network-admin
[09:33] <deafboy> bartwon: i just realized "chown" stood for CHANGE OWNER lol
[09:33] <ardchoille42> lol
[09:33] <z0rz> If I try to isntall libgnutls12 by itself I get: E: Package libgnutls12 has no installation candidate
[09:33] <mtyhome> it seems to hang while trying to connect to a wlan
[09:33] <mmcfeely> yea me 2
[09:33] <nomego> how do I specify dependencies for a package with checkinstall ?
[09:33] <deafboy> mtyhome: security on it?
[09:33] <mmcfeely> I tried it with and without security
[09:33] <mtyhome> tried both, just the freaking same
[09:34] <sidny4> mtyhome: same problem I had, so I quit using it, not sure if it just didn't like ndiswrapper or what
[09:34] <bartmon> rob_p: It seems that script is seriously broken. I just so happens I can't uninstall a program because of it! :(
[09:34] <deafboy> mtyhome: what are you using to type the SSID in?
[09:34] <mtyhome> deafboy, a keyboard?
[09:34] <bartmon> deafboy: Yeah, some commands are pretty descriptive forunately
[09:34] <mmcfeely> lol
[09:35] <mtyhome> sidny4, what do you use?
[09:35] <deafboy> mtyhome: i mean are you typing it in "networking" or another program?
[09:35] <deafboy> bartwon: what's chroot mean?
[09:35] <mtyhome> deafboy, i'm typing that in nm-applet
[09:35] <deafboy> bartwon: change root?
[09:35] <bartmon> deafboy: Yes
[09:35] <deafboy> what's the +x flag?
[09:35] <sidny4> mtyhome: network-admin, it's found under system > administration > network
[09:36] <deafboy> mtyhome: nm? network manager?
[09:36] <mouarf> hello, i'm having a problem installing ubuntu (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/28925) and I just don't get how to modifiy xorg.conf as I can't find it in ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[09:36] <mtyhome> sidny4, i don't like that, it's too slow
[09:36] <mtyhome> i want something like network manager
[09:36] <pretende1> anyone help please? i am using ubuntu 6.10 edgy 64-bit version and i can not watch movie! because the sound and movie are not synchronized and i don't know how to synchronize them.
[09:36] <bartmon> deafboy: / is the normal root folder but if you mount another linux system to repair it you can change the root folder and execute commands respective to the new root
[09:36] <bartmon> deafboy: man chroot :)
[09:36] <sidny4> mtyhome: umm, only other thing I use is iwconfig
[09:37] <sidny4> mtyhome: but that's from the terminal only
[09:37] <ardchoille42> mouarf, !xorg shows you how to modify xorg.conf
[09:37] <deafboy> bartwon: w00t, do you know to get a list of processes from terminal? sometimes wine crashes on me :(
[09:37] <mtyhome> sidny4, yea i also used that
[09:37] <matjan> hi, when using mkdosfs to change the volume name of a fat partition, does that wipe the whole file system, does that stay intact?
[09:37] <mouarf> !xorg
[09:37] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:37] <deafboy> mtyhome: do you have a wireless and wired card?
[09:37] <mtyhome> sidny4, but it's a pain in the ass every freaking time i have to switch to another ap
[09:38] <mtyhome> deafboy, yes
[09:38] <deafboy> mtyhome: intel 915?
[09:38] <sidny4> mtyhome: that's true
[09:38] <mtyhome> deafboy, no i have a airvast which uses prism_usb drivers
[09:38] <whatspy> hi, I've just set some environment variables in /etc/environment (PYTHONPATH) to be more precise, and now, when will they take effect, system-wide ?
[09:39] <mtyhome> deafboy, so i wanted to use nm with ndiswrapper
[09:39] <ardchoille42> Is there a problem with http://ubuntuforums.org/ ATM?
[09:39] <deafboy> mtyhome: sorry i can't help you, i use connection manager and the standard network app
[09:39] <pretende1> anyone help please? i am using ubuntu 6.10 edgy 64-bit version and i can not watch movie! because the sound and movie are not synchronized and i don't know how to synchronize them.
[09:39] <deafboy> ardchoille42: yes i have the same issue
[09:40] <mtyhome> do some of you guys know an app for wifi which works with prism drivers?
[09:40] <Vanja> Can anyone private message me? I need some help/info regarding the ubuntu installation process.
[09:40] <cute_bettong> can anyone tell me if there is an app for msn or yim that will let you use a webcam in linux
[09:40] <cute_bettong> will yahoo or amsn work?
[09:40] <AlexC_> Vanja: just ask the question in here!
[09:40] <Vanja> okay
[09:41] <cute_bettong> the webcam works fine
[09:41] <AlexC_> cute_bettong: aMSN supports webcam in Gnome, or Koppete in KDE
[09:41] <cute_bettong> yes ^_^
[09:41] <cute_bettong> thank you
[09:41] <AlexC_> cute_bettong: your welcome
[09:41] <Vanja> well i decided to go ahead and install Ubuntu, (6.10 from livecd) and i clicked install on desktop.
[09:41] <Vanja> then i went through the steps and got to the partitioning part, and im pretty insecure about what to do :S
[09:42] <Vanja> cosi  dont wanna format the wrong drive or anything :S
[09:42] <AlexC_> Vanja: do you want to dual boot with Windows?
[09:42] <Vanja> Yes
[09:42] <Khem> Warning, couldn't open module wfb
[09:42] <Khem> (II) UnloadModule: "wfb"
[09:42] <Khem> (EE) Failed to load module "wfb" (module does not exist, 0)
[09:42] <Khem> is someone else seeing this problem
[09:42] <AlexC_> Vanja: Ok, I don't know the exact wording, but on the partion screen select "resize and format partiion"
[09:42] <Vanja> okay done
[09:42] <AlexC_> Vanja: actually, could you list the options given please?
[09:42] <Vanja> one sec
[09:42] <adaptr> Khem: what are you trying to do ?
[09:43] <pretende1> how can I watch a movie in ubuntu 6.10?
[09:43] <adaptr> heh
[09:43] <AlexC_> !restricted | pretende1
[09:43] <ubotu> pretende1: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:43] <Khem> adaptr: beryl on nVidia just looked into X log
[09:43] <adaptr> Khem: and what did you need that module for ?
[09:44] <Khem> and saw this warning did nt know what that meant
[09:44] <adaptr> Khem: disable the module, I'd say
[09:44] <Khem> as its a warning I guess I am not much bothered
[09:44] <adaptr> well, it's not a wrning if it starts with EE
[09:44] <stephans> so how do i connect to a vista machine using rdp??????? tdesktop ... I cant get it to work
[09:44] <Khem> its a WW
[09:44] <adaptr> EE by definition causes Xorg to die
[09:44] <stephans> i mean rdesktop
[09:45] <AlexC_> Xorg died? poor Xorg
[09:45] <adaptr> stephans: rdesktop
[09:45] <g333k_work> hello I'm trying to compile something and I got this error: any clue to solve that?
[09:45] <g333k_work> /lib/libdl.so.2: undefined reference to `_dl_open@GLIBC_PRIVATE'
[09:45] <g333k_work> /lib/libdl.so.2: undefined reference to `_dl_close@GLIBC_PRIVATE'
[09:45] <g333k_work> /lib/libdl.so.2: undefined reference to `_dl_catch_error@GLIBC_PRIVATE'
[09:45] <g333k_work> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[09:45] <AlexC_> !paste g333k_work
[09:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste g333k_work - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <wezzie> i have installed realplayer but i still cant view an .rm file it says its an unkown file
[09:45] <AlexC_> !pastebin g333k_work
[09:45] <adaptr> stephans: it's not rocket science.. what did you do ?
[09:45] <stephans> i tred rdesktop....
[09:45] <AlexC_> oooo Ubotu is being slow again
[09:45] <Khem> g333k_work: hmmm your glibc seems to be borked
[09:45] <g333k_work> Khem, how do I solve that?
[09:45] <Vanja> okay alexc, right after then name and stuff i got 2 options "Erase whole drive (drive name here)"
[09:45] <Vanja> or "Edit the partition table"
[09:45] <adaptr> stephans: you'll have to do better than that... I have no idea what's in your head or on your screen, do I ?
[09:45] <stephans> adaptr: i tried gnome rdp and tsclient
[09:46] <adaptr> AlexC_: no it isn;t - you're typoing
[09:46] <wezzie> what could be the problem
[09:46] <adaptr> !paste | g333k_work
[09:46] <ubotu> g333k_work: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:46] <Khem> g333k_work: are you able to get a console
[09:46] <g333k_work> Khem, yep
[09:46] <AlexC_> adaptr: woops, forgot the | :P
[09:46] <stephans> adaptr: i think that it needs some kind of preauth
[09:46] <AlexC_> Vanja: is there no Resize and format/partiton?
[09:46] <Khem> what did u do to fail
[09:46] <puchat3k> i have problems with encoding over ssh using xterm. when using konsole with encoding iso8859-2 everything's fine. how do fix this in xterm?
[09:46] <adaptr> stephans: not at all, but you need to provide the right data - hostname, username, (domain), password
[09:47] <stephans> adaptr: I can connect fine to all xp machines
[09:47] <AlexC_> Vanja: also, my name is AlexC_ not AlexC - please use AlexC_ cos then it alerts me and highlights the message so I know you'ev replied :P
[09:47] <Vanja> well i think its the same, but its cos i changed the language to danish so im translating.
[09:47] <Vanja> give me a min or two, ill log out change gnome language. might be easier
[09:47] <adaptr> stephans: so there is no problem ?
[09:47] <Vanja> oh yeah i noticed
[09:47] <g333k_work> Khem, I was compiling FL_TeacherTool
[09:47] <stephans> adaptr: so... whats the trick?
[09:47] <AlexC_> Vanja: ok,
[09:47] <Vanja> so brb
[09:47] <Byan> my azureus keeps disappearing...
[09:48] <Byan> anyone know how to fix?
[09:48] <vonk> anyone knows much about flash player and ubuntu?
[09:48] <AlexC_> Byan: no, but I had the same problem and it's annoying!
[09:48] <AlexC_> vonk: yes, it plays Flash files,
[09:48] <DARKGuy> Azureus is bugged.
[09:48] <ardchoille42> Byan, Elaborate, "dissappearing"? The app closes?
[09:48] <stephans> adaptr: there is no problem connecting to xp machines but vista machines do not accept rdesktop
[09:48] <AlexC_> ardchoille42: yes, it just opens then closes
[09:48] <DARKGuy> At least, if you kill X while it's running, unless you delete your downloaded torrents and the .azureus folder, it won't come back >:/
[09:48] <adaptr> stephans: ah, well, that's probably it then
[09:49] <DARKGuy> And 'cause of that, it's no use
[09:49] <ardchoille42> AlexC_, Byan  Tried starting it from the terminal and see if there is any error output?
[09:49] <adaptr> stephans: can XP machines connect to blehista ?
[09:49] <stephans> adaptr:any ideas.... yes mstsc.exe works..
[09:49] <vonk> AlexC_:  i try to run flash thingies from the internet in firfox, and i get an error stating in need to update flash player, next one that says it cannot update flashplayer
[09:49] <wezzie> im have trouble viewing a .rm file. i have installed realplayer but i still cant view an .rm file it says its an unkown fileformat. what could be the problem
[09:49] <vonk> but i just installed the latest :/
[09:49] <Byan> ardchoille42: just disappears, it closes
[09:49] <stephans> adaptr: rdesktop does not
[09:50] <Byan> uhm..
[09:50] <adaptr> stephans: rdesktop does not have RDP 5.2 yet, which XP does
[09:50] <adaptr> stephans: bug the developers, or help out yourself :)
[09:50] <Byan> ardchoille42:  http://rafb.net/p/U6BvcV94.html
[09:50] <Rprp`>   Bam-bam Blackhuntr ChanServ Duiv Eggdrop Kurt madman Masterpimp Rprp Twofists Wesleysld|SsLlAaPpTt Whoopie [TypeInc]
[09:50] <DARKGuy> wtf?
[09:50] <AlexC_> vonk: you recently installed Flash 9?
[09:50] <Vanja> im back
[09:50] <Khem> g333k_work: it seems it is refering to a different version of library is it precompiled package ?
[09:50] <Vanja> with english language on gnome
[09:50] <adaptr> ops, probably
[09:50] <sidny4> I have xfce installed, will sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop close it?
[09:50] <vonk> AlexC_:  yes, from the macromedia website
[09:50] <Vanja> ill just go through the steps again
[09:51] <vonk> installed and restarted firefox
[09:51] <AlexC_> vonk: hold on,
[09:51] <AlexC_> Vanja: ok,
[09:51] <stephans> adaptr: any idea where tose pesky developers are hiding? ;=)
[09:51] <adaptr> !rdesktop
[09:51] <ubotu> rdesktop: RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 98 kB, installed size 388 kB
[09:51] <Jowi> sidny4, if you use gdm, yes
[09:51] <vonk> okay AlexC_, you may reply in private, tx allready
[09:51] <sidny4> Jowi: how do I know what I'm using?
[09:51] <grout> when a process is sleeping, what does that mean?
[09:51] <AlexC_> vonk: I'll reply in here.
[09:51] <Dave> Hi, When I am burning the disk to run it from the disk, do i just burn it in its compressed format?
[09:51] <Seveas> grout, that it's tire
[09:51] <grout> lol
[09:52] <Byan> grout: it isn't using an CPU usage
[09:52] <Byan> any*
[09:52] <AlexC_> vonk: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/flash
[09:52] <grout> ah
[09:52] <Jowi> sidny4, ps -A | grep gdm
[09:52] <mzanfardino> I need help configuring my keyboard. Currently my right-alt does not appear to be working. I know there is a keyboard section in xorg.conf. where can I find information about the options available so I can setup my keyboard to work for me?
[09:52] <wezzie> is there any other thing i need to view a rm movie
[09:52] <stephans> ubotu: I am using the latest rdesktop by ubuntu
[09:52] <FooAtari> hi folks, quick ATI drivers question.  As i understand there are proprietary and open source ati drivers.  which are better?
[09:52] <FooAtari> im looking at running beryl
[09:52] <AlexC_> vonk: sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree   basically
[09:53] <stephans> ubotu: It does not work with vista
[09:53] <AlexC_> FooAtari: define better :P
[09:53] <FooAtari> lol
[09:53] <FooAtari> performance
[09:53] <keithhhhh> can someone tell me how to rename my 2nd partition label....
[09:53] <Vanja> okay AlexC_ im in that screen again. 2 options:
[09:53] <Vanja> "Erase entire disk (disk info)"
[09:53] <Vanja> "Manually Edit partition table"
[09:53] <AlexC_> FooAtari: I'd say the propritary ones, but you'll need to use XGL and not AIGLX
[09:54] <AlexC_> Vanja: hum, weird. hold on,
[09:54] <mzanfardino> keyboards people.  does anyone have any information on how I can change my default keyboard defintion?!?
[09:54] <Vanja> im holding on :)
[09:54] <sidny4> Jowi: that returns nothing, so now how do I exit xfce?
[09:54] <Jowi> mzanfardino, "gnome-keyboard-properties
[09:55] <FooAtari> care to explain a little more alexC? whats the difference?
[09:55] <Jowi> sidny4, what do you mean by "exit xfce"? ctrl-alt-backspace will restart Xorg.
[09:55] <wezzie> im have trouble viewing a .rm file. i have installed realplayer but i still cant view an .rm file it says its an unkown fileformat. what could be the problem
[09:55] <farruinn> wezzie: have you tried right-clicking and selecting "open with"?
[09:56] <vonk> AlexC_:  i get errors :/
[09:56] <sidny4> I meant exit X, with gnome installed stopping gdm does it, but I'm not sure with xfce. I start it with startx
[09:56] <AlexC_> vonk: I aint physic! what errors?
[09:56] <wezzie> yes i have tried right clicking the file
[09:56] <mzanfardino> Jowi: err... ok, yes, that's the topic I need help with.  I'm aware of the keyboard configuration in xorg, and can clearly see that my right alt is being suppressed somehow, but I can't seem to locate any information on what options I can change this too...
[09:57] <vonk> could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock -open (11 resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:57] <Jowi> sidny4, the display manager in use should be listed in /etc/rc2.d. for example gdm is listed as S13gdm. see if there is another S13 there
[09:57] <AlexC_> vonk: do you have synaptic open?
[09:57] <vonk> uh yes
[09:58] <vonk> that's it?
[09:58] <AlexC_> vonk: close it, you can only use one at a time
[09:58] <wezzie> farruinn: yes i have tried that, but it still doesnt run
[09:58] <AlexC_> vonk: when using apt-get in terminal, synaptic must be closed.
[09:58] <Jowi> mzanfardino, depends on the keyboard you have. I would suggest trying a different keyboard model (for example "Generic 105") in the Layouts tab.
[09:58] <Oriyen> Can anyone help me???
[09:58] <vonk> AlexC_:  tx alot man ;)
[09:58] <mzanfardino> Jowi: nm. I see what you where trying to tell me.  I needed to execute gnome-keyboard-properites from a terminal window.
[09:58] <Oriyen> My wireless on my laptop does not work
[09:58] <AlexC_> !ask | Oriyen
[09:58] <ubotu> Oriyen: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:59] <matjan> hi, when using mkdosfs to change the volume name of a fat partition, does that wipe the whole file system, or does it stay intact?
[09:59] <Oriyen> I have ubuntu 6.10 Edgy
[09:59] <Jowi> mzanfardino, yeah. gnome-keyboard-properties have many keyboard models listed that you can chose from
[09:59] <AlexC_> Vanja: weird. There is normaly a re-size and format/partition option. I don't know what else to suggest, apart from manual resize
[09:59] <sidny4> Jowi: S13gdm is in there
[09:59] <Oriyen> and It can see essid but can't connect
[09:59] <AlexC_> Vanja: ask the question again and see if someone else can help,
[09:59] <Oriyen> boh secured and not secured
[09:59] <Vanja> erm. okay
[09:59] <Oriyen> Im not using NEtwork Manager or nothign either
[09:59] <Jowi> sidny4, did you type this exactly (note the capital A) "ps -A | grep gdm"?
[10:00] <Trifase> morning o/
[10:00] <AlexC_> Vanja: sorry I couldn't be of more help =)
[10:00] <sidny4> yup
[10:00] <DARKGuy> What file should I edit to have a directory (~/scripts/") into my "path" automatically at boot time so that I don't have to type "cd ~/scripts/" then my sh script? I dunno if I can explain myself :/
[10:00] <Vanja> Is there anyone here who can help me with installing/partitioning ?
[10:00] <Jowi> sidny4, how did you start xfce?
[10:00] <Vanja> nah its okay, you tried ;)
[10:00] <AlexC_> =)
[10:00] <sidny4> Jowi: startx
[10:00] <agnostic> on my Edgy,  Ctrl+Alt+Fn combination do not work, any idea?
[10:00] <Jowi> sidny4, so you are not using a display manager at the moment.
[10:00] <vonk> djeez
[10:01] <farruinn> Vanja: What problem are you having?
[10:01] <Jowi> sidny4, "killall Xorg" might work
[10:01] <sidny4> Jowi: I'm in xfce right now, I ran "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" earlier and that didn't close it
[10:02] <Hoag> Hey. I'm trying to sort out my flash plugin, but I can't seem to get it to work. I installed flash player 9, but firefox doesn't seem to do anything different.
[10:02] <Jowi> sidny4, of course not. if you started xfce with startx then gdm is not running
[10:02] <Oriyen> I have a Intel Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection and I don't think the drivers installed and Intel's Driver instructions are way to difficult to read
[10:02] <vonk> AlexC_:  i'm really a newbie to linux, so i really hope you don't think it's a stupid question... but i have problems getting some text copied from terminal to xchat
[10:02] <sidny4> Jowi: that makes sense. killall Xorg stopped it, thanks
[10:02] <Jowi> np sidny4
[10:03] <LinTux> how do i stop and start xserver?
[10:03] <AlexC_> vonk:  you have to right-click then copy
[10:03] <adaptr> LinTux: ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:03] <ardchoille42> LinTux, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm {stop|start|restart}
[10:03] <TLE> Vanja: Hey Vanja. I can see that you are getting help here now. Just for another time, there usually are people in ubuntu-dk but they often do others things at the same time, so some time it takes a little time before anybody answers
[10:03] <vonk> AlexC_:  that seems to work, but i can't paste a thing here
[10:03] <LinTux> Adaptr & ardchoille42 thanks
[10:04] <AlexC_> vonk: weird, try right-click paste ?
[10:04] <vonk> i tried AlexC_
[10:04] <vonk> can't paste the content in terminal either
[10:04] <agnostic> on my Edgy,  "Ctrl+Alt+Fn"  combination do not work, any idea?
[10:04] <AlexC_> vonk: hum....are you sure you copied it?
[10:04] <AlexC_> try pasted it into openoffice write to check,
[10:05] <adaptr> agnostic: what do you mean, "does not work"?
[10:05] <Oriyen> anyone got any ideas
[10:05] <Oriyen>  I have a Intel Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection and I don't think the drivers installed and Intel's Driver instructions are way to difficult read was wondering if anyone knew any repositories for it?
[10:06] <tommyv> !xmmms
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmmms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <tommyv> !xmms
[10:06] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[10:06] <tommyv> hi, can someone tell me how i can control xmms through the terminal?
[10:06] <Oriyen> !wireless
[10:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:06] <_Odin_> #chile
[10:06] <Froggy1> Hey, can anyone help me with my ubuntu installation? since installation told me to restart my computer freezes before startup, on the bit saying 'starting hotplug subscription'. On  'recovery mode'  i get  'azx_get_response timeout'  scrolling on the screen
[10:06] <AlexC_> tommyv: I think you need a plugin for it
[10:06] <DARKGuy> Hey, what file should I edit to have a directory (~/scripts/") into my "path" automatically at boot time so that I don't have to type "cd ~/scripts/" then my sh script? I dunno if I can explain myself :/
[10:06] <vonk> AlexC_:  no, nothing in OO
[10:07] <AlexC_> vonk: Ok, highlight the text in terminal, then right-click and select copy
[10:07] <vonk> AlexC_:  reverse is no problem, it seems that terminal just doesn't copy it :s
[10:07] <agnostic> when in X, the combination make just a black screen without nothing in it
[10:07] <LjL> DARKGuy: ~/.bashrc will do i suppose
[10:07] <vonk> AlexC_:  i tried
[10:07] <jaku> qualcuno ha un garmin? che programma si usa per gestire i dati?
[10:07] <LjL> DARKGuy: you need to change the PATH variable
[10:07] <LjL> !it | jaku
[10:07] <ubotu> jaku: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:07] <AlexC_> vonk: that is very weird,
[10:07] <vonk> AlexC_:  i know....
[10:07] <jaku> LjL: sorry :) wrog /j
[10:07] <LjL> jaku: "apt-cache search garmin"
when in X, the combination make just a black screen without nothing in it
[10:08] <vonk> it's weird for me too ;)
[10:08] <LjL> !find garmin
[10:08] <DARKGuy> LjL: Yeah, I dunno how though, and there isn't nothing relevant in the .bashrc file :(
[10:08] <ubotu> File garmin found in grass
[10:08] <Skrit> hey there... I would need some advice about setting the virtual terminal's resolution, I tried editing grub kernel line to add vga = 791 but that dosen't help. I get: unsupported parameter at boot time and when prompted scan for the available configs, the highest thing I can get is 800 x 600. Any toughts on how I could get something better?
[10:08] <hjmills> DARKGuy, why not place them in /bin which ubuntu already adds to the path if it exists?
[10:08] <wolfwalker> Got a file here that has a .tar.gzip ending
[10:08] <wolfwalker> How do you uncompress a gzip file?
[10:08] <LjL> !gzip | wolfwalker
[10:08] <ubotu> gzip: The GNU compression utility. In component main, is required. Version 1.3.5-14ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 71 kB, installed size 228 kB
[10:08] <Kyral> wolfwalker: tar -zxbg
[10:08] <Kyral> tt
[10:08] <DARKGuy> hjmills: I don't want to mix my own scripts with the /bin ones :P
[10:08] <adaptr> agnostic: what combination ?
[10:08] <Kyral> err
[10:08] <hjmills> DARKGuy, if you are insistent on using ~/scripts then look at ~/.bash_profile
[10:08] <Kyral> wolfwalker: tar -zxvf
[10:09] <hjmills> DARKGuy, sorry - i meant ~bin
[10:09] <wolfwalker> Did not
[10:09] <wolfwalker> It didn't handle it
[10:09] <LjL> jaku: uhm, good packages to try are probably gpsbabel, gpsman and gpstrans
[10:09] <Vanja> oh TLE thanks, i was in there earlier but noone answered
[10:09] <hjmills> s/~bin/~\/bin/
[10:09] <wolfwalker> If you're talking about the package manager, that is
[10:09] <hjmills> wow that now looks confusing
[10:09] <DARKGuy> hjmills: it does x)
[10:09] <LjL> DARKGuy: sure that's probably a better place to put it than .bashrc
[10:09] <wolfwalker> If not, then what program does handle it and how do I access it?
[10:09] <agnostic> Ctrl+Alt+F1 or F2 or F3 ....
[10:09] <jaku> LjL: ok. tks.. i'll try all
[10:09] <DARKGuy> hjmills: but hey, it worked, never knew there was an existant ~/bin folder, woohoo
[10:09] <AlexC_> hjmills: looks like a regular expression lol, damm reg-ex is confusing!
[10:09] <IntuitiveNipple> Skrit: The resolution will depend on which FrameBuffer driver you've got compiled into the kernel at boot-time
[10:09] <hjmills> DARKGuy, change ~/scripts to ~/bin and ubuntu auto adds it to the path - look at ~/.bash_profile for more info
[10:10] <DARKGuy> Yeah, thanks hjmills and LjL :)
[10:10] <adaptr> agnostic: but X is running/working ?
[10:10] <stephans> ok ok ok ok _ I found the solution to connecting to vista with rdp
[10:10] <hjmills> AlexC_, it basically is a substitution regexp and reading and writing them gives good practice...
[10:10] <hjmills> damn - marmalade on my keyboard wrist wrest :(
[10:10] <stephans> the version of rdesktop in ubuntu is too old
[10:10] <acuster> hey all, I'm having trouble mounting an external usb disk
[10:10] <agnostic> perfect running
[10:10] <Skrit> IntuitiveNipple, that's a start, I'll search a little about it thanks.
[10:10] <acuster> fdisk finds it as /dev/sda*
[10:11] <stephans> you need version 1.5 of rdesktop
[10:11] <acuster> but that's not a real path in Edgy
[10:11] <hjmills> DARKGuy, sure :D
[10:11] <stephans> soooooooooooo....
[10:11] <acuster> how do I mount the thing?
[10:11] <AlexC_> hjmills: reading reg-ex makes my brain hurt, I use it a few times in PHP - drives me mad!
[10:11] <acuster> automount seems not to have worked
[10:11] <stephans> does any one know where i can find it for ubntu
[10:11] <IntuitiveNipple> Skrit: I had to do that for an Intel i810-based notebook, modules can't be configured from the kernel command-line
[10:11] <hjmills> acuster, run "ls /dev/ | grep sda"
[10:11] <stephans> rdesktop-1.5 for ubuntu
[10:11] <hjmills> acuster, tell me what it finds, sda1 etc
[10:11] <stephans> debian has it
[10:11] <wolfwalker> |Kyral:| what did you mean? What do I do with this file? Package Manager doesn't handle it.
[10:11] <wolfwalker> It's a .gzip file
[10:12] <stephans> but you can not install it in ubuntu
[10:12] <AlexC_> stephans: and so does Ubuntu
[10:12] <davmor2> stephans just type rdesktop1.5.deb
[10:12] <Kyral> wolfwalker: I gave you the command to extract it
[10:12] <wolfwalker> And I must say the compression rate is quite impressive!
[10:12] <stephans> unresolvable dependencies
[10:12] <davmor2> into google sorry
[10:12] <AlexC_> stephans: sudo apt-get install rdesktop
[10:12] <Kyral> wolfwalker: the rest is up to you
[10:12] <AlexC_> stephans: do you have the extra resporities enabled?
[10:12] <wolfwalker> |Kyral:| I'm afraid I'm smarter than you give me credit for.
[10:12] <farruinn> wolfwalker: tar xvzf foo.gzip will unzip it. Is it a source package?
[10:12] <acuster> hjmills, thanks for your help, it seems to have resolved itself
[10:12] <stephans> AlexC_ yes i do...
[10:12] <Froggy1> Anyone: Hey, can anyone help me with my ubuntu installation? since installation told me to restart my computer freezes before startup, on the bit saying 'starting hotplug subscription'. On  'recovery mode'  i get  'azx_get_response timeout'  scrolling on the screen
[10:12] <heatxsink> I've followed the howto on the nvidia drivers for ubuntu, and I'm still having issues, I'm running Edgy, and when install the nvidia-glx driver and restart gdm everything works great, however on reboot,  I get this funky error from X stating that it cannot find the nvidia.ko file in /lib/modules/<kernel version>/volatile/ HELP!
[10:12] <wolfwalker> |Kyral:| Do I right click on it and run that or what?
[10:12] <stephans> an i have rdesktop 1.4
[10:13] <Kyral> wolfwalker: In the terminal
[10:13] <hjmills> acuster, one of the best kind of problems then
[10:13] <AlexC_> stephans: ah, I see - rdesktop is oly 1.4 in Ubuntu
[10:13] <stephans> Where can i fiind the rdesktop1.5 for ubuntU?
[10:13] <HymnToLife> !rdesktop
[10:13] <ubotu> rdesktop: RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 98 kB, installed size 388 kB
[10:13] <Kyral> stephans: Compile it your self
[10:13] <HymnToLife> !rdesktop feisty
[10:13] <ubotu> rdesktop: RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.0-1 (feisty), package size 118 kB, installed size 444 kB
[10:13] <flodine> is there a feisty room i can join?
[10:13] <Oriyen> how can i create a script with this nvidia-settings --load-config-only
[10:13] <Oriyen> cd '/path/to/World of Warcraft'
[10:13] <Oriyen> wine WoW.exe -opengl
[10:13] <stephans> Kyral... that is shamefulll....
[10:14] <AlexC_> flodine: #ubuntu+1
[10:14] <pbureau> I have a wifi card, that is configured and reconized, I have supplicant and Kwlan, I can scan and see the WPA/54g network but when I add it gives me this error message, "Failed to save the wpa_supplicant configuration. Is update_config=1 defined in wpa_supplicant.conf?" how do i fix this?
[10:14] <Kyral> stephans: Why?
[10:14] <HymnToLife> stephans, upgrade to feisty, I've heard it's pretty stable by now
[10:14] <Kyral> Heaven forbid you need to get your hands dirty
[10:14] <AlexC_> HymnToLife: stephans I HIGHLY reccomend you DO NOT install feisty if you want to use it for every day use
[10:14] <stephans> I am running the latest releas of ubuntu
[10:14] <Kyral> s/because/before
[10:14] <hjmills> I love sshfs!
[10:14] <AlexC_> HymnToLife: stephans Feisty is in heavy development and it _will_ break.
[10:14] <farruinn> stephans: must be latest stable then
[10:15] <stephans> AlexC_... I agree... I just want to find a deb built for ubuntu that is up to date...
[10:15] <Kyral> farruinn: Long time no see
[10:15] <wolfwalker> Well, here's hoping..........
[10:15] <wolfwalker> Thanks y'all
[10:15] <farruinn> Kyral: hey :)
[10:15] <stephans> AlexC_ a backport?
[10:16] <AlexC_> stephans: could try converting an RPM to deb with Alien
[10:16] <farruinn> Oriyen: put # /usr/bin/bash at a top of the file, then those lines you pasted
[10:16] <Kyral> thats sketchier than compiling from source
[10:16] <Oriyen> k ty
[10:16] <farruinn> t Oriyen then run 'chmod a+x <filename>' on it
[10:16] <Hoag> Why do some websites seem to work with firefox, and some not? the about:plugins page shows the correct flash player that I have installed, but some pages don't work properly.
[10:17] <Vanja> hey AlexC_ i just noticed what you were talkin about.
[10:17] <Vanja> there needs to be 3 options
[10:17] <Vanja> http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2340/w2u260tf.png
[10:17] <Kyral> Hoag: Because some web designers only design for IE ;P
[10:17] <stephans> AlexC_ good idea.... But why are updates packages usually not built for existing versions of ubuntu? Upgrading an entire os distro for the sake of a few apps is nonsense...
[10:17] <AlexC_> Vanja: yeah there is normally Erase Entire Disk, Resize and Format, or Manually resize..but you only seem to have 2
[10:17] <Vanja> but i only have the 2 bottom ones on that image
[10:17] <Vanja> yeh :S so weird
[10:17] <vonk> AlexC_:  tx alot for your help, now it works. only the copy/paste don't work :p i can live with that
[10:18] <stephans> Users should be able to install newer apps without replacing the entire distro...
[10:18] <hjmills> what is the best way to keep a desktop and a laptop in sync?
[10:18] <Kyral> stephans: You can compile from source....
[10:18] <Hoag> Kyral: I've used that site fine in firefox before, but I'm having trouble getting it to work with ubuntu. It plays the music, but the image says I need to upgrade to flash player 8. (I have 9)
[10:18] <HymnToLife> stephans, if you think so, create your own distro that will allow it
[10:18] <hjmills> stephans, whats wrong with compilation?
[10:18] <Kyral> just pass ./configure the --PREFIX=/usr/local option
[10:18] <farruinn> stephans: that would require a ridiculous amount of work to support
[10:18] <AlexC_> stephans: latest and greatest doesn't always mean most stable. It means they'd have to test it all again
[10:19] <HymnToLife> and I wish you good lucjk to find package maintainers willing to rebuild the whole package evey time there's a new version out
[10:19] <stephans> Kyral: that is absolutely the lat resource of desperation.... there is a reason that there is a package management system...
[10:19] <Oriyen> everytime I double click it it opens gedit
[10:19] <AlexC_> stephans: also, with a 6 month release cycle, the latest will be in there in 6 months. So unless a program has a release cycle of 1 week, it will amost always be the latest
[10:19] <HymnToLife> every*
[10:19] <Kyral> stephans: Actually /usr/local is there for a reason
[10:19] <hjmills> stephans, well your other option is to find a repo with the version you want on that is for ubuntu edgy and use that
[10:19] <Kyral> stephans: /usr/local was left out of the control of Apt for the reason of thats where people should put self compiled apps
[10:19] <farruinn> stephans: you can (try to) safely mix distros using pinning (check the APT HOWTO on debian)
[10:20] <stephans> Comeon guys... If i compile somethong and the some libraries get updated.... boooom... that is worse than dependency hell...
[10:20] <Oriyen> # /usr/bin/bash
[10:20] <Oriyen> nvidia-settings --load-config-only
[10:20] <Oriyen> cd 'media/sda1/Program Files/WoW - Linux'
[10:20] <Oriyen> wine WoW.exe -opengl
[10:20] <hjmills> stephans, the choice is yours, compilation, use a precomiled deb or use another (unofficial) repo. Just dont expect other people to find it all for you - google is your friend
[10:20] <Kyral> stephans: Actually that is dependacy hell
[10:20] <AlexC_> !paste | Oriyen
[10:20] <ubotu> Oriyen: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:20] <hjmills> !paste | Oriyen,
[10:20] <DARKGuy> stephans: That's why you should stay with Edgy since it'll mostly never break
[10:20] <ubotu> Oriyen,: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:21] <Kyral> stephans: You will learn nothing by playing it safe
[10:21] <Kyral> :P
[10:21] <farruinn> Oriyen: Yeah, next time don't paste though ;)
[10:21] <hjmills> stephans, what do you need this rdesktop for?
[10:21] <stephans> I windows... the people we seek to attract... can install almost an application ... and not have to upgrade .... everytime
[10:21] <DARKGuy> Kyral: but you'll lose more time fixing the entire system than using it >.<
[10:21] <TLE> Vanja: yeah I saw, but as I said, you just need to wait a little longer. I just don't hope that it means we wont see you again in there :)
[10:21] <bcardarella> Is crontabs the correct program I should be using to add a cron job?
[10:21] <AlexC_> stephans: you can still, install most applications.
[10:21] <Kyral> DARKGuy: How do you think I became as good as I am :D
[10:21] <stephans> hjmills:  so I can administer the vista machines
[10:21] <hjmills> Kyral, could stephans install a chroot and run a newer version or rdesktop inside that to protect his system or is that my crazy talk?
[10:21] <HymnToLife> stephans, and have bugs and security hole fixed once every 5 years
[10:21] <Oriyen> Farruinn I did the chmod  but it still won't execute
[10:21] <DARKGuy> Kyral: xD well, but I'd like to have linux to use it, not to fix it :P
[10:22] <Kyral> hjmills: /usr/local is THERE to isolate apps
[10:22] <Oriyen> it sitting in my home directory
[10:22] <farruinn> Oriyen: try ./<foo>
[10:22] <HymnToLife> let alone that an upgrade creates more bugs than it solves...
[10:22] <Vanja> nah ive been waiting a while so ima take it in my own hands . kinda :)
[10:22] <AlexC_> stephans: you can install thousands of programs that _will_ work, and by safe to use. With windows you take a gamble as to wheter this random .exe file you found on the interwebs will be the last time you'll see your Windows desktop or not
[10:22] <Kyral> stephans: Then switch to a non-point based release distro like Gentoo or Arch
[10:22] <AlexC_> s/by/be
[10:22] <Vanja> Could anyone tell me if this http://www.hezardastan.org/breezy_xp_dualboot/en/  tutorial is any good?
[10:22] <farruinn> Kyral: I think the concern is having to install supporting libraries as well
[10:22] <DARKGuy> I second AlexC_ :P
[10:22] <stephans> OK OK  OK --- this is not religion.... I am just trying to be practical... from a user perspective.
[10:23] <hjmills> Vanja, i dont know about that one but there is one in the wiki im sure
[10:23] <Kyral> farruinn: I say just try the configure and if it works HOORAY!
[10:23] <HymnToLife> stephans, a user is not someone willing to have the very latest verison of everything
[10:23] <farruinn> Kyral: if it were me, I'd do that too, but...
[10:23] <HymnToLife> a user wans something that works
[10:23] <HymnToLife> thus will stay with rdesktop 1.4
[10:23] <wolfwalker> Iiiiiiiiiiiiit's me again. The annoying newbie, with some more annoying newbie questions.
[10:23] <Vanja> well ive been going through the wiki alot. and its really ALOT of info u get there. cant find a specific easy to follow tut
[10:23] <DARKGuy> Personally, Ubuntu is the *best* distro I've found that has been able to compile something.  APT-Get is God.
[10:23] <hjmills> wolfwalker, hooray!
[10:23] <Kyral> farruinn: Besides.....if they design a library that breaks backward compat when they upgrade it
[10:23] <AlexC_> stephans: you can eaisly install it though, get the .rpm file and convert it with alien
[10:23] <Kyral> farruinn: Then thats just ****ed up
[10:24] <wolfwalker> I tried to decompress that .tar.gzip file, but archive manager says it is not supported
[10:24] <wolfwalker> It doesn't have the compression format, apparently
[10:24] <HymnToLife> wolfwalker, use the command-line :)
[10:24] <Kyral> wolfwalker: Thats REALLY ****ed up
[10:24] <hjmills> wolfwalker, rename it to .tar.gz not .tar.gzip :)
[10:24] <wolfwalker> I did
[10:24] <wolfwalker> Is THAT all I had to do?!
[10:24] <Kyral> DARKGuy: You'd love Arch
[10:24] <stephans> AlexC_ I know..  I will... mandriva has provided the rpm...
[10:24] <EnsignRedshirt> I'm trying to set some Keyboard Shortcuts on a laptop.  The keyboard has a blue "Fn" key, and the PgUp and PgDn keys have blue volume icons, but nothing happens when I in the Keyboard Shortcuts window when I hit these keys.  Any suggestions?
[10:24] <HymnToLife> wolfwalker, tar xzvf filename.tgz
[10:24] <Kyral> hjmills: That shouldn't happen...
[10:24] <DARKGuy> Kyral: reason? ;)
[10:25] <wolfwalker> Thanks y'all
[10:25] <HymnToLife> or .tar.gz or whatever the hell you want
[10:25] <farruinn> stephans: if that's what you were going to do anyway, then why push all the debate? :)
[10:25] <wolfwalker> Gonna try this again
[10:25] <Kyral> DARKGuy: Allows you to really mess with the compile :D
[10:25] <stephans> http://linuxappfinder.com/package/rdesktop
[10:25] <hjmills> EnsignRedshirt, mine worked out of the box - you did try them ddnt you?
[10:25] <stephans> check it out...
[10:25] <Kyral> ABS FTW
[10:25] <DARKGuy> Kyral: Cool! *shall install and break stuff someday, woohoo*
[10:25] <Kyral> stephans: Aliening an RPM is just as dangerious
[10:25] <Kyral> jeez...why do people hate compiling...
[10:26] <Kyral> I find it fun
[10:26] <hjmills> Kyral, sssh - dont tell him that otherwise he will never try it and will never learn
[10:26] <AlexC_> farruinn: I can understand his point 100%. Why should FF1.5 not be upgradted to FF2 in Dapper, if Dapper is support for 3 years on Desktop, surely FF1.5 will be extremly outdated by then - but they'd still be usign it
[10:26] <stephans> Kyral: at leas it will be in the package database so it can be managed
[10:26] <Kyral> stephans: Again, /usr/local :P
[10:26] <AlexC_> farruinn: of course i just took FF as an example, there are plenty of others
[10:26] <farruinn> AlexC_: That's why we have foo-updates repositories
[10:26] <hjmills> stephans, if you use checkinstall when compiling it still ends up as a deb so is still in the package database :D
[10:26] <stephans> Kyral: I can be helll for me later...
[10:27] <Vanja> AlexC_ i started following that tut from that link and i actually found the "resize" drive option. just dunno what to do
[10:27] <felix_> hi
[10:27] <Kyral> In a Debian based system, you KNOW that anything in /usr/local is NOT under the control of Apt
[10:27] <farruinn> AlexC_: At least that's how I understand it. I've been out of the Ubuntu loop for a while.
[10:27] <Vanja> please say if you busy, i keep asking you cos your the only one i really talked to
[10:27] <stephans> hjmills --- talk to me some more about that!
[10:27] <Kyral> checkinstall...*cringe*
[10:27] <farruinn> Kyral: what's wrong with checkinstall?
[10:28] <FooAtari> beryl and compiz is either more commonly used than the other?
[10:28] <Kyral> farruinn: Left over reflex from MOTU :P
[10:28] <AlexC_> farruinn: afaik, the program versions that are in will never get changed after feature freeze, only for bug fixes. So people using Dapper for the full 3 years will be stuck with FF1.5 and Gaim 1 or what ever it is. they wont push the latest into resporities
[10:28] <hjmills> stephans, just google checkinstall - its a program you use when compiling instead of the last "sudo make install" step which generates a deb and installs that so its easier to manage on apt based systems
[10:28] <hjmills> !checkinstall
[10:28] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[10:28] <kordobes> hay alguien que hable espaol por aqui
[10:28] <Draconicus> Hey, I'm trying to create a fat16 partition with the text-based parition editor (in the alternate install) nd it's failing every time. I'm not even trying to mount it as anything. Can anyone help?
[10:28] <Kyral> kordobes: #ubuntu-es
[10:28] <HymnToLife> !es | kordobes
[10:28] <kordobes> gracias
[10:28] <ubotu> kordobes: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:28] <Kyral> Draconicus: why FAT16?
[10:29] <Draconicus> Kyral: A Win95 project.
[10:29] <AlexC_> Vanja: I've never used the manual partition, as much as I would like to help - I don't want something I said to mess up your windows hard drive
[10:29] <Draconicus> Kind of an experiment.
[10:29] <stephans> hjmills -- thank you. That satisfies my requirements.
[10:29] <wolfwalker> |Draconicus:| get the 6.10 version of Ubuntu as an .iso and burn it to a live cd. It has a GREAT partitioner!
[10:29] <Kyral> Draconicus: Doesn't Win95 support FAT32?
[10:29] <farruinn> AlexC_: Ah, gotcha. I guess you'd have to have a good reason to stick with Dapper for the full 3 years then.
[10:29] <hjmills> stephans, it makes compiling enjoyable :D
[10:29] <wolfwalker> Much better than Dapper's partitioner
[10:29] <Vanja> Well its not manual partition. its the option in Gparted that "resizes"
[10:29] <Draconicus> wolfwalker: It's just a bulky graphical frontend to the same thing that's in the text based install.
[10:29] <Kyral> resizing is always sketchy
[10:30] <AlexC_> farruinn: companies most probably would. I just don't see why they wont push the latest, stable, versions into repo's
[10:30] <wolfwalker> Oh, so that's what you're using?
[10:30] <g333k_work> hello after apt-get dist-upgrading my xubuntu 6.06 I got a kernel panic, any chance to solve it?
[10:30] <wolfwalker> Worked for me................
[10:30] <HymnToLife> Draconicus, wrong, the alternate uses partman, while the GUI uses parted
[10:30] <Draconicus> Not to mention I'm out of CDs and this shouldn't be happening with Fat16. It's a classic filesystem and has been perfected for nearly a decade.
[10:30] <hjmills> farruinn, you would only stick with dapper if all your needs were fulfilled and you didnt want to risk stability - i work in a pc shop in a place full of old rich people and they would really benefit from stability not the latest features
[10:30] <AlexC_> Vanja: gparted? are you not using the Ubuntu installer's partition section?
[10:30] <Kyral> AlexC_: Thats the thing about "Release based" distros like Debian and Ubuntu that I don't like :D
[10:30] <babis85> hello, what is your opinion about resizing the root(/) partition? I don't want to encounter any problems with data loss etc. because it is my working computer
[10:30] <Souljah> hey guys
[10:30] <Souljah> sup
[10:31] <HymnToLife> Kyral, don't use them, then
[10:31] <Kyral> HymnToLife: I don't
[10:31] <Souljah> I just installed XP again
[10:31] <Kyral> I'm an Arch user :D
[10:31] <HymnToLife> me neither
[10:31] <Souljah> and allowed GRUB to load again
[10:31] <Souljah> but now
[10:31] <Draconicus> babis85: What are you trying to do?
[10:31] <HymnToLife> FBSD here :)
[10:31] <Souljah> when i try to boot into xp
[10:31] <Al> can you lock the screen from a terminal command?
[10:31] <Souljah> it won't
[10:31] <hjmills> AlexC_, they cant push the latest versions into the dapper repos because it would all have to be tested to play nice together which takes time - if you need more recent stuff then upgrade
[10:31] <Kyral> HymnToLife: I've tried FBSD
[10:31] <Draconicus> HymnToLife: Well, even so, it's a good, reliable partitioner.
[10:31] <Vanja> No alexC_ becaus i couldnt see that resize option.
[10:31] <Vanja> so i found this http://www.hezardastan.org/breezy_xp_dualboot/en/
[10:31] <Vanja> and im trying to follow that.
[10:31] <Vanja> and it tells me to start gparted :S
[10:32] <AlexC_> hjmills: oh I don't need the most recent stuff, I'm not even using Dapper. But I mean it can't take long for them to test FF2 with Dapper to check it's stable
[10:32] <babis85> Draconicus: i would like to resize the root partition, that's all
[10:32] <Souljah> anyone can help?
[10:32] <EnsignRedshirt> Nope, the volume keys don't work.  Now I'd like to see if I can get them to work.
[10:32] <Draconicus> babis85: Um... There's no reason to resize the root partition unless you're trying to make room for something.
[10:32] <AlexC_> hjmills: yeah it's taking people away from coding Feisty, but it would help the people who stick with Dapper. You can't just leave them behind in terms of software versions
[10:32] <pbureau> I have a wifi card, that is configured and reconized, I have supplicant and Kwlan, I can scan and see the WPA/54g network but when I add it gives me this error message, "Failed to save the wpa_supplicant configuration. Is update_config=1 defined in wpa_supplicant.conf?" how do i fix this?
[10:32] <hjmills> AlexC_, no - but if it needs a newer library then that gets updated and then they need to test everything that also uses that lib so some of those need updating etc
[10:33] <babis85> Draconicus: that's right, i want more space
[10:33] <EnsignRedshirt> Is there some trick to getting these keys to work on a laptop?  It's an old Dell C800.
[10:33] <hjmills> AlexC_, they can always upgrade to edgy
[10:33] <mamboadm> does anybody know about sympa?
[10:33] <Al> can you lock the screen from a terminal command?
[10:33] <hjmills> does anybody sync a laptop and a desktop and how do they manage it?
[10:33] <Draconicus> babis85: How big is your root partition now?
[10:33] <AlexC_> hjmills: I know, but Dapper is supported for 3 years. Companies will most likely stick to the LTS releases, which means for 3 years they'd be running FF1.5 - which would be extremly outdated in 3 years
[10:34] <babis85> Draconicus: about 28Gb
[10:34] <Draconicus> ...
[10:34] <Draconicus> babis85: WHY?!
[10:34] <Souljah> how do you edit your boot partition
[10:34] <Souljah> grub's list
[10:34] <babis85> Draconicus: because i say so, i need more space
[10:34] <hjmills> AlexC_, I guess - but it would still need a whole extra team testing each package as it goes in as well as the libs and the programs the depend on the libs and so on and so forth
[10:34] <mamboadm> does anybody know of sympa?
[10:35] <hjmills> !sympa
[10:35] <ubotu> sympa: Modern mailing list manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.5-7 (edgy), package size 1149 kB, installed size 8064 kB
[10:35] <Draconicus> babis85: I mean why on earth do you have a 28GB root partition? You only need 5GB at the most!
[10:35] <hjmills> mamboadm, ubotu does!
[10:35] <mamboadm> hjmills: yes but i am having an issue ubotu can't solve that
[10:35] <AlexC_> Souljah: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:35] <EnsignRedshirt> Here's a separate question: In keyboard shortcuts, I hit a few keys while the "Volume down" shortcut was selected.  How do I restore the default value that was there?
[10:35] <Draconicus> Err..
[10:35] <EnsignRedshirt> It was hex, like 0x??.
[10:35] <dmg> I have a reproducible segv with apt-get update, with sid/edgy/feisty/edgy-updates/edgy-security in my /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:35] <Draconicus> babis85: Sorry. I'm used to having a separate home partition.
[10:35] <Vanja> Ima go out and search for some answers, bye
[10:35] <Souljah> thanks AlexC_ it's nice that someone actually answered :)
[10:36] <hjmills> Draconicus, my root is 40gb but i aint used much
[10:36] <Draconicus> babis85: I'm guessing that your home directory is part of the root partition, right?
[10:36] <babis85> Draconicus: ah, because at the installation i didn't create a separate partition for HOME
[10:36] <dmg> I'm running an up-to-date edgy
[10:36] <babis85> Draconicus: that's right
[10:36] <hjmills> dmg, why is sid in there?
[10:36] <Draconicus> babis85: Yeah. You have to manually edit partitions if you want to do that stuff. It's not hard, though. I recommend you try it next time you have the chance.
[10:37] <dmg> hjmills: I wanted to try to get a newer gphoto version -- I just got a camera that's only supported by gphoto 2.3.0
[10:37] <hjmills> EnsignRedshirt, I dont think you can - if you didnt use it set it to ctrl+alt+shift+pageup/down or something you will never work
[10:37] <Draconicus> babis85: Anyway, what are you making room for? If you're resizing your only storage filesystem partition, what do you intend to do with the resulting empty disk space?
[10:37] <dmg> I haven't installed anything from it, I was just going to see if it had the newer gphoto and it segfaulted
[10:37] <babis85> Draconicus: i know...
[10:37] <hjmills> dmg, i would recommend taking that out then
[10:37] <babis85> Draconicus: it is a 80gb disk
[10:37] <Stormx2> I need to convert a wma to an mp3/flac. any suggestions?
[10:37] <Draconicus> babis85: Oh... I'm sorry. Are you an experienced Linux user, then? Heh... Not used to those. :P
[10:37] <hjmills> dmg, best bet is to compile for newer apps - use checkinstall to help yourself
[10:38] <EnsignRedshirt> hjmills: Argh, that's one of the drawbacks of the gnome "set it right away" interface--it needs an "undo" or "cancel" option.
[10:38] <AlexC_> Souljah: you're welcome =)
[10:38] <hjmills> EnsignRedshirt, yeah - def needs a cancel
[10:38] <babis85> Draconicus: for now i have a 28gb / partition and 500mb for swap in that order (in the disk), and then the rest is empty
[10:38] <dmg> hjmills: well segfault goes away when I remove sid.  I guess I was just expecting that apps should never segfault.  I was going to build gphoto from source into /usr/local/stow, but I'll check out 'checkinstall'
[10:39] <hjmills> EnsignRedshirt, but if you used it then you would know it and if not it doesnt matter as long as you wont press it by accident
[10:39] <Draconicus> babis85: Oh! You want to make the partition BIGGER! Why didn't you clarify? :P
[10:39] <Souljah> /dev/hda1   *           1        6527    52428096    7  HPFS/NTFS
[10:39] <Souljah> does that mean
[10:39] <babis85> Draconicus: so i would like to move the swap partition to the right
[10:39] <Souljah> that windows is on (hd0,1)?
[10:39] <bluefox83> dmg, why on earth are you building anything from source in ubuntu?
[10:39] <babis85> Draconicus: so as to make space for the Root
[10:39] <Draconicus> babis85: Mind a PM?
[10:40] <hjmills> bluefox83, because he needs a more recent version of a program so he cant get it from the repos
[10:40] <EnsignRedshirt> hjmills: Right now it is disabled (by hitting backspace).  The program does not respond to ctrl+alt+shift+PgUp.
[10:40] <babis85> Draconicus: sorry, i didn't explain to you in detail
[10:40] <bluefox83> hjmills, why not use a cvs?
[10:40] <hjmills> EnsignRedshirt, im not fond of that program - you cant add custom commands either which is dull :(
[10:40] <Draconicus> babis85: I've got it now. It's complicated to explain what you need to do, though. May I PM?
[10:40] <dmg> bluefox83: 'a cvs'?
[10:40] <hjmills> bluefox83, thats just the same but using less stable sources
[10:41] <babis85> Draconicus: of course
[10:42] <pbureau> I have a wifi card, that is configured and reconized, I have supplicant and Kwlan, I can scan and see the WPA/54g network but when I add it gives me this error message, "Failed to save the wpa_supplicant configuration. Is update_config=1 defined in wpa_supplicant.conf?" how do i fix this?
[10:42] <bluefox83> hjmills, generally cvs repositories contain the bleeding edge of the software you want, sometimes it's so new that they haven't worked any kinks out yet and it's uber buggy
[10:42] <bluefox83> er, sorry that was for dmg
[10:42] <hjmills> bluefox83, i know but its still the source so would still need compiling
[10:42] <dmg> ok, well, thanks, I guess ...
[10:42] <dmg> ok, well, thanks, I guess .../part
[10:42] <AlexC_> Souljah: sorry, didn't see question. YesI think it is,
[10:43] <Thomas``> can some one help me please? My CPU is alway running @1GHz but i have a core duo with 1.66Ghz and by the graphiccarc the same.. :(
[10:44] <bardas> Hi. I'm getting some weird errors with EasyUbuntu
[10:44] <Oriyen> can anyone tell me how to up date the ipw3945 drivers?
[10:44] <Oriyen> It needs a new daemon inorder to work properly
[10:45] <Oriyen> which I dled
[10:45] <Oriyen> I got the drivers from here http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net
[10:46] <snort_> irc.choopa.net
[10:46] <Thomas``> no ubuntu developer here?
[10:46] <bardas> what's preferable?  the Nvidia "legacy" driver, or the other one?
[10:47] <Thomas``> if u mean me.. i have dld the driver from the nvidia site and installed it
[10:47] <Thomas``> but beryl is very slow
[10:47] <Al> can you lock the screen from a terminal command?
[10:47] <bluefox83> you should install the nvidia beta driver
[10:47] <Cuddles_in_KY> afternoon all.
[10:47] <Cuddles_in_KY> does anyone here have experience with ndiswrapper?
[10:47] <Thomas``> hm. Yeah..but why is my cpu underclocked @ubuntu?
[10:48] <bruenig> I have an avi, I want to strip just the audio off of it, how can I do that
[10:48] <BrendanM> Can anyone give me some tips for clearing up hard disk space on Ubuntu?
[10:48] <wolfwalker> Okay, this is driving me about half-past insane
[10:48] <Draconicus> babis85: You there?
[10:48] <dbft> hmph
[10:48] <bluefox83> Thomas``, it's not, it's just not running at peak capacity since you aren't using that much..
[10:48] <dbft> how come this thing has no user list? :D
[10:48] <Cuddles_in_KY> wolfwalker, you too?
[10:48] <dbft> (XChat)
[10:48] <Thomas``> hm
[10:48] <wolfwalker> Yea, verily
[10:48] <BrendanM> Is there a way to sort everything in the file system by size, for instance?
[10:48] <Jowi> BrendanM, "apt-get clean" will remove downloaded packages. can give you a couple of hundred megabytes
[10:49] <babis85> Draconicus: yea
[10:49] <bruenig> BrendanM, sudo apt-get clean, that should remove some unnecessary stuff.
[10:49] <wolfwalker> Install notes for this file are as follows
[10:49] <wolfwalker> Go to directory src. Type:
[10:49] <wolfwalker> 	make
[10:49] <wolfwalker> 	sudo cp cayman3341.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/usb/net/
[10:49] <wolfwalker> 	sudo depmod
[10:49] <bluefox83> dbft, it does, it's on the right, but be aware that you can adjust it..so it's probably all the way over against the edge of the window
[10:49] <wolfwalker> But it doesn't wooooooooork
[10:49] <Oriyen> does anyone know?
[10:49] <wolfwalker> The folder src is on the desktop
[10:49] <dbft> I really cant see it bluefox :|
[10:49] <dbft> lol
[10:49] <dbft> theres nothing there
[10:50] <babis85> Draconicus: PM me
[10:50] <BrendanM> Dang! Good call people, that gave me like 400 MB
[10:50] <Thomas``> must i remove the driver what i'm using now..before installing the beta one?
[10:50] <Draconicus> BrendanM: If you mean something like defragmenting on Windows, that's not neccessary with Linux filesystems. They write in a straight line. :P  However, there's a possibility that apt hasn't been auto-cleaning your packages after they're installed. It likes to archive them. Type apt-get clean and see if you free up some space.
[10:50] <Cuddles_in_KY> wolfwalker, i can't even get networking up. consider yourself lucky.
[10:50] <Oriyen> does anyone know how to properly install IPW3945 1.2.0 Drivers?
[10:50] <BrendanM> What does apt-get clean do? And why doesn't it run that automatically?
[10:50] <bluefox83> dbft, put your cursor as far over as you can and wait for it to change for that two sided arrow thingy that shows it can move something sideways..
[10:50] <Draconicus> babis85: I did... Don't you see it?
[10:50] <LjL> BrendanM: if you don't know what it does, why do you think it should run automatically? :)
[10:50] <wolfwalker> |Cuddles_in_KY:| I can't even get the internet up. Consider YOURself lucky
[10:50] <wolfwalker> I'm having to resort to a Winblows computer for internet :/
[10:51] <LjL> BrendanM: anyway it removes downloaded packages -- not the *installed* packages, just the download .deb files that are kept in /var/cache/apt/archives. it's not run automatically because you may want them there
[10:51] <kiamo> hmm
[10:51] <hjmills> wolfwalker, Cuddles_in_KY, just be glad you both have a learning experience to enjoy...
[10:51] <kiamo> X crashes and restarts when i try to play a video...
[10:51] <bluefox83> BrendanM, it deletes all your stored .deb packages in the default directory, it doesn't do it automatically cus sometimes you want to reinstall without redownloading the packages
[10:51] <wolfwalker> Should I have put the folder in / instead of in the desktop?
[10:51] <Cuddles_in_KY> wolfwalker, i've been trying for 4 days now, and can't get an answer from anybody.
[10:51] <kiamo> what could that mean?
[10:51] <babis85> Draconicus: yes but i have replied to you and i am waiting to give me instructions
[10:51] <BrendanM> Why would I want them there? In case I needed to reinstall and didn't have a network connection?
[10:51] <e_klektic> hello all. I can't apt-get update on my dapper server. anyone know why I get 404 not found on packages?
[10:51] <dbft> seriously bluefox83 - when i go all the way over there is the slidebar then the edge of the window :|
[10:51] <bluefox83> kiamo, what player?
[10:51] <kiamo> vlc
[10:51] <kiamo> mplayer
[10:51] <kiamo> totem
[10:51] <kiamo> xine
[10:51] <kiamo> lol
[10:51] <LjL> BrendanM: yeah. or if you want to use them for another machine
[10:51] <LjL> !enter | kiamo
[10:52] <ubotu> kiamo: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:52] <BrendanM> well, thanks a lot. I'm going to run that periodically from now on... or make a script to run it periodically
[10:52] <BrendanM> later
[10:52] <dbft> anyway I'm sure i'll sort that
[10:52] <kiamo> sorry LjL ;)
[10:52] <LjL> BrendanM: if you don't like that, anyway, you could make an alias that calls apt-get clean after every install... or perhaps there's an APT config option even
[10:52] <pbureau> I have a wifi card, that is configured and reconized, I have supplicant and Kwlan, I can scan and see the WPA/54g network but when I add it gives me this error message, "Failed to save the wpa_supplicant configuration. Is update_config=1 defined in wpa_supplicant.conf?" how do i fix this?
[10:52] <dm_> Whats a good app for cleaning up space on your HDD, i have a bunch of un-accounted for space....
[10:52] <stia1> I run xubuntu 6.10, and yesterday I installed ubuntu-desktop just to try something out. When I logged into xfce again, it uses gdm as its default window manager (I have no right click menu and I see all the gnome icons on the desktop). I tried to manually run xfdesktop, but that didn't help. do you guys have any ideas on how to make xfce use its desired window manager again?
[10:52] <BrendanM> Any other space saving tips? Where does Ubuntu store its temp files?
[10:52] <dbft> in the applications menu, I have "Internet" and under that I have Java Web Start 1.4 - is there a way to remove certain things from that menu without uninstalling them?
[10:53] <bluefox83> pbureau, locate wpa_supplicant.conf
[10:53] <kiamo> ok... i just tried to play an mp3 in totem and it restarted x...
[10:53] <BrendanM> Also, if my swap partition hardly gets used at all, could I resize it and devote more of that space to the regular HDD?
[10:53] <kiamo> vlc is playing it now..
[10:53] <bluefox83> dm_, apt-get autoclean?
[10:53] <Draconicus> babis85: I don't see your reply...
[10:53] <wolfwalker> Okay y'all, I'm trying desperately to install USB drivers for my modem so I can get my Linux computer online
[10:54] <wolfwalker> Could someone help?
[10:54] <wolfwalker> I have the drivers, but I can't understand the instructions
[10:54] <Draconicus> babis85: What are you using for an IRC client?
[10:54] <pbureau> bluefox83: pbureau@toshiba-4600:~$ locate wpa_supplicant.conf
[10:54] <pbureau> /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/examples/wpa_supplicant.conf.gz
[10:54] <pbureau> /usr/share/man/man5/wpa_supplicant.conf.5.gz
[10:54] <e_klektic> hello guys, noob needs apt-get update jus 2 get started - any help appreci8d
[10:54] <hjmills> wow - odd to run a command on one pc and hear another kick into life
[10:54] <babis85> Draconicus: check the PM again, i will do reply to you again
[10:54] <LjL> dm_: kdirstat is handy. that's for KDE, gnome has baobab or something, though it's not really the same kind of view
[10:54] <hjmills> e_klektic, whats up?
[10:54] <bluefox83> pbureau, you probably need to make that file and put it someplace...
[10:55] <wolfwalker> Anybody?
[10:55] <e_klektic> hjmills - I can ping internet but apt-get update gives 404 not found
[10:55] <pbureau> bluefox83:  okay use example file and create a new one then...ok
[10:55] <bluefox83> pbureau, yeah..try that
[10:55] <hjmills> e_klektic, can you ping the server it gives 404 on and what is that server?
[10:55] <Draconicus> babis85: Whatever the case, this isn't working. Is there some other way we could communicate privately?
[10:55] <kiamo> e_klektic, man apt-get
[10:56] <bluefox83> wolfwalker, i have no experience with ndiswrapper, and it looks like no one here right now has any experience with it either...
[10:56] <Spee_Der> de=|_uys,cw=YWQ;;~
[10:56] <wolfwalker> What is ndiswrapper?
[10:56] <jatos> hey
[10:56] <bluefox83> wolfwalker, all i know is wireless is like the hardest thing to do in ubuntu...
[10:56] <wolfwalker> !ndiswrapper
[10:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:56] <wolfwalker> That's not wireless
[10:56] <babis85> Draconicus: right now i am writing in the PM, don't you see it?
[10:56] <Cuddles_in_KY> bluefox83, you mean me.
[10:56] <Draconicus> babis85: I've already tried to give you instructions via PM. I don't know what's wrong.
[10:56] <wolfwalker> It's a wired modem
[10:56] <Spee_Der> de=|_uys,cw=YWQ;;~
[10:56] <bluefox83> wolfwalker, oh wait..you wanted usb?
[10:56] <wolfwalker> es
[10:56] <wolfwalker> Yes
[10:56] <e_klektic> hjmills, Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[10:56] <e_klektic> hjmills, but I can load that into firefox on my windows laptop
[10:57] <wolfwalker> I got the drivers, uncompressed them to a desktop folder, but I can't do anything with them now
[10:57] <hjmills> e_klektic, ok - try and ping http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:57] <Draconicus> babis85: I'll just explain it in here. Pay close attention.
[10:57] <bluefox83> wolfwalker, give me the url to the instructions you found
[10:57] <wolfwalker> The instructions are as follows:
[10:57] <Jowi> wolfwalker, first of all chech that there isn't already drivers and utilities for that modem. what is the model?
[10:57] <wolfwalker> Go to directory src. Type:
[10:57] <wolfwalker> 	make
[10:57] <wolfwalker> 	sudo cp cayman3341.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/usb/net/
[10:57] <wolfwalker> 	sudo depmod
[10:57] <wolfwalker> After that you can plug the modem in and configure your new network device.
[10:57] <babis85> do you have a msn account?
[10:57] <wolfwalker> The instructions were in a readme file with the drivers
[10:57] <hjmills> !paste | wolfwalker
[10:57] <ubotu> wolfwalker: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:57] <Draconicus> babis85: Now, first of all what you're going to need to do is edit /etc/fstab and comment out the line regarding swap. Let me know when you've done that.
[10:57] <bluefox83> wolfwalker, holdon, let me find some easier instructions for you..
[10:58] <Dreamglider> how should an ubuntu disk be partioned ?
[10:58] <Guest7614664> Why does something hold my dpkg?, i just tried installing something with apt and used ctrl+c but i don't find a process named dpkg or apt
[10:58] <babis85> Draconicus: as i said you before, i will resize the partition at another time, so, now i only need the instructions
[10:58] <wolfwalker> |Dreamglider:| depends what you want to put on it
[10:58] <Dreamglider> is it enought with a swap and / ?
[10:58] <babis85> Draconicus: say that i did it
[10:58] <babis85> Draconicus: what's next?
[10:58] <erUSUL> Dreamglider: yes
[10:59] <kiamo> why might X be restarting when i play most video files?
[10:59] <e_klektic> hjmills, I get unknown host now although I'm sure it worked earlier. I can ping google.com in 30ms
[10:59] <Dreamglider> is that a good disk layout or is there somthing better ?
[10:59] <Draconicus> babis85: Alright... just be sure to save these instructions to a text file. Next you'll want to install gparted, as it's the easiest method. Since you're just expanding the partition there should be no risk of data loss.
[10:59] <sentinelxx> If I only have 1 partition for Linux, is there a way to re-size it so I can add more space?
[10:59] <bluefox83> wolfwalker, when you do "make" does it give an error?
[10:59] <Dreamglider> i have seen ppl use one for boot allso
[10:59] <HymnToLife> kiamo, broken video driver ?
[10:59] <datachild> Why does something hold my dpkg?, i just tried installing something with apt and used ctrl+c but i don't find a process named dpkg or apt
[10:59] <HymnToLife> which video card/driver do you use ?
[11:00] <babis85> Draconicus: i have it installed
[11:00] <wolfwalker> It says there's nothing to make
[11:00] <Draconicus> babis85: Ah. Convenient.
[11:00] <hjmills> e_klektic, well i can get it on screen
[11:00] <wolfwalker> Should I have put the src folder somewhere besides the desktop?
[11:00] <bluefox83> wolfwalker, probably..
[11:00] <kiamo> HymnToLife, thats what i thought but im so sure its installed correctly
[11:00] <datachild> anyone?
[11:00] <hjmills> e_klektic, you could just type it up manually...... :P
[11:00] <bluefox83> datachild, whats the error specifically?
[11:00] <cokeslut> sup?
[11:00] <gizmatix3> Hello
[11:00] <gizmatix3> interest
[11:00] <wolfwalker> And what does it mean about going to directory src?
[11:00] <cokeslut> unsure
[11:01] <Draconicus> babis85: Wait a second... I just realized that there's a bit of a problem with this anyway. Alright, let's start over. I made a mistake.
[11:01] <Spee_Der> de=|_uys,cw=YWQ;;~
[11:01] <datachild> bluefox83; tells me that dpkg is used..
[11:01] <EnsignRedshirt> datachild: If you pressed ctrl-c, you killed apt-get, so why should there be a process?
[11:01] <e_klektic> hjmills, sorry, I really am new and it's command line because its server - type it up manually?
[11:01] <babis85> Draconicus: ok
[11:01] <bluefox83> wolfwalker, inside the directory it created, there is probably another subdirectory called src
[11:01] <wolfwalker> Yup
[11:01] <datachild> i have no idea EnsignRedshirt, i can't find any processes either
[11:01] <hjmills> e_klektic, sarcasm :D
[11:01] <bluefox83> datachild, no, i mean whatever is holding up apt
[11:01] <wolfwalker> Where do I type anywhere in there?
[11:01] <Draconicus> babis85: All of this will need to be done with a live CD, and you don't need to do the commenting stuff for your swap, I don't think.
[11:01] <HymnToLife> wolfwalker, in a terminal, most certainly
[11:02] <EnsignRedshirt> datachild: If you killed it with ctrl+c, there would not be a process.
[11:02] <wolfwalker> How do you access the terminal from inside a folder?
[11:02] <datachild> bluefox83, the problem is that i don't know since i can't find any process holding it up..
[11:02] <hjmills> e_klektic, are you sure your inet is up properly?
[11:02] <datachild> EnsignRedshirt, but why does it tell me that it's "used" ?
[11:02] <hjmills> wolfwalker, open terminal and cd to folder?
[11:02] <bluefox83> datachild, are you running synaptic, or anything else that required a password to run?
[11:02] <kiamo> HymnToLife, I installed my ati drivers manuely rather than apt-get or addremove, but even so i noticed the ati drivers are ticked in the system tools in add remove.  DOes that mean 2 sets of drivers are installed?
[11:02] <HymnToLife> wolfwalker, just open your terminal and cd to that folder
[11:02] <EnsignRedshirt> datachild: Ah, I see.  Is synaptic running?
[11:02] <wolfwalker> CD to that folder?
[11:02] <wolfwalker> Elaborate
[11:03] <Draconicus> babis85: What you'll need to do is install gparted in the liveCD if it isn't already included (I don't know if it is). From there you unmount the swap partition if the live session has utilized it, then delete that partition with gparted.
[11:03] <HymnToLife> kiamo, check the X log to see if there's somethinf that can help you
[11:03] <EnsignRedshirt> EnsignRedshirt: ...or maybe when you hit ctrl+c, a lock didn't get unlocked (I wouldn't know how to fix that).
[11:03] <bluefox83> wolfwalker, whats the name of the folder that you got from unpacking the .tar file?
[11:03] <datachild> EnsignRedshirt; Nope
[11:03] <hjmills> wolfwalker, open a terminal and run "cd /path/to/folder"
[11:03] <kiamo> HymnToLife, where is that log?
[11:03] <e_klektic> hjmills, ah! right :-)  .  think I need to look at network settings somewhere
[11:03] <Draconicus> babis85: From here you can expand your root partiiton to your heart's content, then tack on a new swap partition after it.
[11:03] <HymnToLife> kiamo, /var/log/Xorg.0.log IIRC
[11:03] <skreet> Anyone here using SANE?
[11:03] <wolfwalker> The name of the folder is src and it's on the desktop
[11:03] <bluefox83> we can tell >.>
[11:03] <hjmills> e_klektic, yeah
[11:03] <HymnToLife> !anyone | skreet
[11:03] <ubotu> skreet: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:04] <skreet> ubotu is cleaver.
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is cleaver. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <skreet> clever?
[11:04] <georgy> HymnToLife yes
[11:04] <Astaroth_> how can i kill a package so damn hard?
[11:04] <bluefox83> wolfwalker, so cd Desktop/src/
[11:04] <HymnToLife> skreet, just ask your question, we'll help if we can
[11:04] <babis85> Draconicus: it seems very easy, won't be any problem with data loss?
[11:04] <Astaroth_> i want it absolutely dead.
[11:04] <wolfwalker> Ahhh
[11:04] <wolfwalker> Thanks, I'll try that
[11:04] <wolfwalker> What does cd mean anywho?
[11:04] <skreet> Anyway, i'm using a sane astra 2000p and i can't get it to be detected. I'll admit I'm not all that familiar with SANe. It's uppsed to use a umax_pp backend, but I get no devices found. Parport0 is available.
[11:04] <nissa> hi
[11:04] <HymnToLife> wolfwalker,  Change DIrectory
[11:04] <hjmills> wolfwalker, Change Directory
[11:04] <Astaroth_> wolfwalker: change dir
[11:05] <wolfwalker> Thanks
[11:05] <hjmills> skreet, is it usb?
[11:05] <wolfwalker> I'll be back, because I'll probably find some other way to screw it up :/
[11:05] <kiamo> HymnToLife, i have lots of cannot open device errors
[11:05] <skreet> hjmills: No, umax_pp is a parellel backend, and parpor0 is my parellel port.
[11:05] <Spee_Der> de=|_uys,cw=YWQ;BvQ;JC
[11:05] <bluefox83> wolfwalker, stay here, and we can help faster
[11:05] <HymnToLife> skreet, does sane-find-scanner as root find somethinf ?
[11:05] <HymnToLife> something*
[11:05] <kiamo> HymnToLife, you recon my Xorg is configured badly?
[11:05] <skreet> HymnToLife: No, and it also says something like 'Not looking for parellel devices'
[11:05] <nissa> hi everbody
[11:05] <HymnToLife> kiamo, pastebin the log
[11:05] <skreet> Can I force it to use a certain backend?
[11:06] <kiamo> pastebin?
[11:06] <hjmills> skreet, what model scanner?
[11:06] <skreet> Umax Astra 2000p
[11:06] <Trifase> who have a bash script that paste stdout to phpfi.com o rafb.net? in utf-8 of course
[11:06] <kiamo> !pastebin
[11:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:07] <hjmills> skreet try running 'sudo echo "option astra 2000" >> /etc/sane.d/umax_pp.conf'
[11:07] <HymnToLife> skreet, sane-find-scanner is only for USB and SCSI scanners
[11:07] <skreet> HymnToLife: I'm aware, you asked me if it found anything =)
[11:07] <wolfwalker> It doesn't work
[11:07] <skreet> hjmills: Thanks, trying -- Shall I try a scanimage -L after?
[11:07] <wolfwalker> Says no such directory
[11:07] <HymnToLife> yeah, I found that out later :p
[11:07] <hjmills> skreet, after restarting saned
[11:08] <wolfwalker> I know very well there IS such a directory
[11:08] <skreet> hjmills: It's odd that you say restarting saned, is taht an init script?
[11:08] <kiamo> HymnToLife, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2577/
[11:08] <HymnToLife> wolfwalker, cd Desktop
[11:08] <wolfwalker> I opened the terminal and typed cd desktop/src
[11:08] <skreet> hjmills: I did not find an init script fo rit.
[11:08] <wolfwalker> It said no such directory
[11:08] <HymnToLife> wolfwalker, Desktop, with a capital D
[11:08] <hjmills> skreet, i think there is a sane daemon - anybody know? saned??
[11:08] <hjmills> ps -e
[11:08] <Draconicus> babis85: Shouldn't be a problem, so long as you're not shrinking the partiton.
[11:08] <Draconicus> partition*
[11:08] <babis85> Draconicus: thanks for your help
[11:09] <skreet> hjmills:I have saned, but it appears to be for networking.. Also, it doesn't do anything -- no processes started
[11:09] <Draconicus> Am I right in thinking that enlarging an ext3 or other open filesystem partiton leaves no risk of data loss, people?
[11:09] <hjmills> skreet, just go ahead with scanimage -L then
[11:09] <hjmills> skreet, my bad
[11:09] <adaptr> skreet: it may appear - you can scan over the network
[11:09] <skreet> hjmills: Trying now.
[11:09] <wolfwalker> Aaaaahh
[11:09] <dabaR> I get a segmentation fault whatever I do with aptitude, apt-get or synaptic. What can I check?
[11:09] <wolfwalker> Capital
[11:09] <cyphase> Why doesn't Nautilus use GStreamer to preview sound files instead of mpg321 and vorbis-tools?
[11:09] <wolfwalker> sigh
[11:09] <wolfwalker> brb again
[11:10] <Draconicus> dabaR: Eek! What Ubuntu version?
[11:10] <EnsignRedshirt> Draconicus: I tried resizing a reiser partition once. It got trashed.
[11:10] <dabaR> Dapper. PPC. Up to date, pretty much.
[11:10] <HymnToLife> skreet, have you checked this ? http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Scanner-HOWTO/interfaces.html#PARPORT-GENERAL
[11:10] <Draconicus> EnsignRedshirt: Really? I'll have to keep that in mind. I use ReiserFS. You don't mean reiser4, do you?
[11:11] <skreet> I think so, hold on.
[11:11] <georgy> skreet : config files are in /etc/sane.d
[11:11] <skreet> hjmills: No luck, same error: "http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Scanner-HOWTO/interfaces.html#PARPORT-GENERAL"
[11:11] <e_klektic> hjmills, can I have another word? I can ping gb.archive.ubuntu.com fine 40ms. It didn't work because I put http: in front as you suggested - is that a clue?
[11:11] <EnsignRedshirt> Draconicus: Sorry, I forget.  Since then, I stick to ext3.
[11:11] <Draconicus> babis85: You're not using reiser, I'm sure, if you went with the default instoll. :P
[11:11] <skreet> georgy: Thanks, I have already modified the umax_pp config.
[11:11] <Draconicus> EnsignRedshirt: But it's sloooow. :P
[11:11] <skreet> georgy: Is there another config I need to tell it which BE to use?
[11:11] <georgy> skret : ok
[11:11] <EnsignRedshirt> Draconicus: How much slower, and under what conditions?
[11:12] <georgy> * : skreet
[11:12] <babis85> Draconicus: right, i am using ext3
[11:12] <Draconicus> EnsignRedshirt: Lots of little files... Heh. :P
[11:12] <hjmills> e_klektic, oh gd point - my bad
[11:12] <babis85> Draconicus: is there a problem with reiserfs?
[11:12] <Draconicus> babis85: Read up a bit. :P
[11:12] <Spee_Der> de=|_uys,cw=YWQ;=!Q"
[11:12] <Spee_Der> de=|_uys,cw=YWP;;!
[11:13] <Draconicus> Spee_Der: Did you mix up your keyboard layouts?
[11:13] <maxkelley> hey, in the ubuntu installer, is the partition resizer fairly dependable?
[11:13] <wolfwalker> yay, it finally accessed it!
[11:13] <sentinelxx> Anyone: If I were to create a new partition in XP and leave it as a blank format, could i then use Gparted under Ubuntu to format it into a readable file system?
[11:13] <wolfwalker> And............. gave me a lot of errors
[11:13] <Music_Shuffle> maxkelley, yeah.
[11:13] <georgy> skreet : only the umax_pp file, I guess
[11:13] <hjmills> e_klektic, can you browse the net normally? try a wget http://hjmills.co.uk/files/gpl.txt
[11:13] <erUSUL> sentinelxx: sure
[11:13] <Draconicus> maxkelley: If you're resizing ntfs or fat32, defrag the crap out of it first.
[11:13] <maxkelley> Music_Shuffle: anything I should know about using it, and is it safe? :P
[11:13] <maxkelley> ah, ok.
[11:14] <Music_Shuffle> maxkelley, nothing other than...use common sense and it'll work perfectly :)
[11:14] <sentinelxx> Sweet, because I'm planning on installing CSS with the new addition of the latest WINE release
[11:14] <maxkelley> nice :)
[11:14] <sentinelxx> but I've now ran out of space..
[11:14] <e_klektic> hjmills, good idea. I'll try that
[11:14] <sentinelxx> didnt think Ubuntu would be this quick at catching on with the CS scene :p
[11:14] <Draconicus> maxkelley: Fun thing about Windows partitions... They don't write in a straight line. Supposedly as a security feature, as I've heard, they scatter the files all over the partition. :P
[11:14] <maxkelley> pfft :P
[11:14] <Cold_FiRe> thats really dumb
[11:15] <Draconicus> Makes a big mess and slows it down horribly.
[11:15] <Cold_FiRe> it slows the computer down
[11:15] <maxkelley> so, defrag and shut down immediately, and reboot with the ubuntu cd?
[11:15] <Trifase> Guy, anyone have a bash script like nopaste or pastebin, that paste stdout to an online service and give the link?
[11:15] <Draconicus> That's why Windows gets slower exponentially to the amount of files on the drive.
[11:15] <Draconicus> That and the registry.
[11:15] <e_klektic> hjmills, yep, that works. I now have the gpl off your website
[11:16] <Enverex> Erm, why wont Totem play OGG Vorbis files?
[11:16] <Cold_FiRe> hey i cant connect to the internet with wireless or ethernet cable
[11:16] <el_ahmo> hi mazers
[11:16] <el_ahmo> mates
[11:16] <hjmills> e_klektic, feel honoured! try and wget the file apt keeps failing on
[11:16] <el_ahmo> can anyone help me
[11:16] <babis85> Draconicus: i' ve read, but i think that it is not guaranteed that by resizing the partition there will not be data loss
[11:16] <erUSUL> !anyone > el_ahmo
[11:16] <e_klektic> hjmills, another cracker ! :-) I can fake an archive locally
[11:16] <el_ahmo> is there any way to save a session
[11:16] <el_ahmo> on ubuntu live?
[11:16] <hjmills> e_klektic, if apt will let you
[11:17] <el_ahmo> i have serial mouse
[11:17] <Cold_FiRe> !internet
[11:17] <hjmills> e_klektic, whats it called?
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <el_ahmo> i i have to edit xorg
[11:17] <el_ahmo> every time i boot
[11:17] <Cold_FiRe> !ethernet
[11:17] <Enverex> Draconicus, Yeah, it's silly because defrag moves them back into a line
[11:17] <e_klektic> hjmills, Package.gz
[11:17] <el_ahmo> maybe somehow with this
[11:17] <el_ahmo> http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/1387/
[11:17] <ben_m> Trifase http://www.stgraber.org/?cat=5
[11:18] <hjmills> bummerz- i tried to cat a .bin and it foobared my term - any rescue crews around?
[11:18] <e_klektic> hjmills, I feel a bit silly here but, is there a copy and paste on the command line? (I don't have a mouse)
[11:18] <hjmills> e_klektic, any idea what apt does to it afterwards?
[11:18] <Cold_FiRe> ?
[11:18] <HymnToLife> hjmills, just close your terminal and open a nex one
[11:18] <Cold_FiRe> can someone help me
[11:18] <Trifase> Thanks ben_m :)
[11:18] <el_ahmo> anyone?
[11:18] <hjmills> e_klektic, hmmm... i dont know - thats odd
[11:18] <EnsignRedshirt> hjmills: type reset
[11:18] <Cold_FiRe> how do i connet to the internet
[11:18] <hjmills> EnsignRedshirt, thanks :D
[11:19] <Jowi> Cold_FiRe, what type of hardware do you have and how are they physically connected?
[11:19] <Enverex> Jowi, Maybe he's using a Coldfire? heh
[11:19] <e_klektic> hjmills, you've lost me. Give me a minute to try wget the archive
[11:19] <erUSUL> Cold_FiRe: it depends on many things router or modem? usb or ethernet? adsl or cable? do you have wireless?
[11:20] <Jowi> Enverex, if I only knew what that was :-/ (not native english)
[11:20] <sentinelxx> Anyone: Can i add free space to an already existing ext3 Ubuntu partition if the additional free space comes from the same HDD?
[11:20] <Enverex> Jowi, Motorola M68k Processors
[11:20] <Cold_FiRe> ok well i have a wireless router with 4 ethernet ports at first i tryed to connet it to wifi and it half worked... i could ping google but nothing else, so i decided to connect by cable to download a network manager but then i couldnt find out how to get the ethernet cable connection to work
[11:21] <Cold_FiRe> it told me permission denied
[11:21] <Cold_FiRe> on firefox when i connected to any site
[11:22] <Jowi> Cold_FiRe, connect to the router with a ethernet cable. run "sudo network-admin" and disable the wifi and enable ethernet. that should be it.
[11:22] <rocksori> hi all. i am thinking of installing ubuntu and was wondering can i use both ubuntu and xp on my pc?
[11:22] <Cold_FiRe> ok thanx
[11:22] <Cold_FiRe> yes you can
[11:22] <Cold_FiRe> i do
[11:22] <hjmills> rocksori, yes
[11:22] <rocksori> ty
[11:22] <sentinelxx> rocksori, yes u can :D
[11:22] <rocksori> okok :D
[11:22] <Cold_FiRe> just partiate it correctly
[11:22] <Jowi> Cold_FiRe, most cable modems are locked to the MAC address of the first device that is connected to it (in this case probably the router) so it's easier just to use the router as that one seems to work.
[11:23] <Jowi> Enverex, like the one in the Amiga?
[11:23] <dabaR> I get a segmentation fault whatever I do with aptitude, apt-get or synaptic. What can I check? I am using Dapper PPC.
[11:23] <el_ahmo> is there any way to save session on ubuntu live and then load it on reebot????
[11:23] <Enverex> Jowi, yes
[11:23] <e_klektic> hjmills, this doesn't make sense. I can wget the Package.gz file.Is there more config to apt than sources.list? It must be broke
[11:24] <hjmills> Ah distinctly I remember, it was in the bleak December
[11:24] <Jack_Sparrow> There is a windows program to reset the MAC address, I have not found one for Linux... yet
[11:24] <Cold_FiRe> will that program run on wine
[11:24] <Jack_Sparrow> HAve not tried.
[11:24] <Cold_FiRe> ok
[11:24] <Cold_FiRe> im going to go try that now
[11:24] <hjmills> e_klektic, i only know of apt - try sudo apt-cache clean
[11:25] <Jack_Sparrow> LEt me go see if I can find it for WIndows again... I am on a different PC
[11:25] <Cold_FiRe> oh wait when i use the network admin camand what do i expect
[11:25] <el_ahmo> is there any way to save session on ubuntu live and then load it on reebot????
[11:25] <skreet> Can someone try a sudo cat /dev/lp0 and tell me if you get an input/output error?
[11:25] <Jowi> Cold_FiRe, a window with all your network devices and settings.
[11:25] <Cold_FiRe> oh
[11:25] <Cold_FiRe> k
[11:25] <hjmills> el_ahmo, no - why do you want to?
[11:26] <el_ahmo> because
[11:26] <bna> why do I have to run this manually ?
[11:26] <skreet> bna: You have to run that daemon to use that card..
[11:26] <el_ahmo> every time i boot
[11:26] <georgy> skreet : input/output error
[11:26] <skreet> georgy: Thank you, can you also try sudo cat /dev/parport0
[11:26] <el_ahmo> i must edit xorg.conf file
[11:26] <el_ahmo> because my mouse is serial
[11:26] <skreet> bna: I wrote a startup script to do it for me.
[11:26] <hjmills> el_ahmo, its a live cd - you are meant to install it if you like it, not just run it from the disc all the time
[11:26] <kiamo> HymnToLife, did you get my pastebin
[11:26] <el_ahmo> and i hav to to that
[11:26] <kiamo> ?
[11:26] <eisbaer> quit
[11:26] <el_ahmo> well
[11:26] <bna> on my amiga i had a startup sequence ...
[11:27] <el_ahmo> i tgouht
[11:27] <bna> hehe... where do I do that ?
[11:27] <el_ahmo> that there is a way to do that
[11:27] <el_ahmo> like in knoppix
[11:27] <skreet> bna: Ever written a startup script before?
[11:27] <georgy> skreet : no such file or repository
[11:27] <skreet> georgy: Thanks.
[11:27] <bna> nope
[11:27] <creative> hy, could you help me, how can i restore grub after a windows reinstall ?
[11:27] <skreet> anyone here using parport, that might be able to try a sudo cat /dev/parport0
[11:27] <Jowi> el_ahmo, no. ubuntu-live cd is not meant to work like that.
[11:27] <terabel> creative: you need a live cd
[11:27] <dabaR> I get a segmentation fault with aptitude, apt-get and synaptic. More info at http://pastebin.ca/325092. Thanks.
[11:28] <creative> yesd
[11:28] <creative> i running it now
[11:28] <Jowi> !grub | creative
[11:28] <ubotwo> creative: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:28] <creative> i dont have floppy and cd :(
[11:28] <bna> skreet: any idea ?
[11:28] <skreet> bna: I'd love to help you write one, but i'm working on alot of stuff right now..
[11:28] <ben_m> hmm, I get gtk errors from almost every program, what can I do?:D
[11:29] <skreet> bna: If you read other startup scripts, you may understand the formatting.
[11:29] <Jowi> creative, not possible without booting into a linux system
[11:29] <erUSUL> !bugs > dabaR
[11:29] <driv[nfl] > How do I create a user and give it the most minimal amount of access possible?
[11:29] <bna> sure but where to put the file ?
[11:29] <Oriyen> how can I get ieee80211 subsystem to install
[11:29] <jasong5> how duz one get dvds to play on linux
[11:29] <bna> rc.local ?
[11:29] <Oriyen> it keeps giving me errors on the make cmd
[11:29] <skreet> jasong5: Check ubuntuguide.org
[11:29] <skreet> They have a how-to on it.
[11:30] <jrib> !dvd | jasong5
[11:30] <ubotwo> jasong5: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:30] <tomasso> anyone ever configured a cvs server?
[11:30] <Jack_Sparrow> SYstem INfo for Windows Free for Non-Commercial USers.
[11:30] <creative> when i try the find stage command i get this ->
[11:30] <creative> Error 15: File not found
[11:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !dvd
[11:30] <ubotwo> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:31] <Jowi> driv[nfl] , "sudo users-admin" and create a new user. then click on the "User pribileges" tab and unselect everything.
[11:31] <rocksori> i was wondering can call of duty 2 be played with linux?
[11:31] <sssk> ./ connect #ubuntu-russian
[11:31] <skreet> rocksori: After alot of  headache.. check www.transgamer.org
[11:31] <adaptr> failed!
[11:31] <rocksori> :)
[11:32] <sssk>  #ubuntu-russian
[11:32] <rocksori> well xp is boring nice to learn something new
[11:32] <Jowi> !ru sssk
[11:32] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[11:32] <mnoir> sssk: interesting command.  maybe try /join #ubuntu-are you ?
[11:32] <Jowi> !ru | sssk
[11:32] <ubotwo> sssk:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[11:32] <sssk> .\connect #ubuntu-russian
[11:32] <adaptr> rocksori: how will you learn somethgin new if you play the same windows games ?
[11:32] <LjL> sssk: /join #ubuntu-ru
[11:32] <Jowi> sssk, /join #ubuntu-ru
[11:32] <rocksori> heh :D well usually i dont learn anything from games... i ment i will learn how to use linux
[11:33] <skreet> anyone intereted in helping me with a umax_pp problem (SANE): http://pastebin.ca/325098
[11:33] <sssk> thanx
[11:33] <dabaR> erUSUL: Thanks, fixed:)
[11:33] <hjmills> how do i run a command on boot on my server?
[11:34] <erUSUL> dabaR: the problem was? (out of curiosity)
[11:34] <Jowi> hjmills, put the script in /etc/init.d and symlink it to /etc/rc2.d
[11:34] <hjmills> Jowi, thanks
[11:35] <dabaR> erUSUL: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/16467/comments/1 is what I tried.
[11:35] <hjmills> Jowi, would using sudo update-rc on it do the symlinking for me?
[11:35] <kiamo> please can someone take a look at my Xorg.0.log and help me work out why X keeps restarting when i play video files
[11:35] <kiamo> ?
[11:35] <Jowi> hjmills, yes
[11:36] <hjmills> Jowi, score! thanks!
[11:36] <Jowi> you're welcome hjmills
[11:37] <erUSUL> dabaR: i suspected a corrupted db, but even when feeded with corrupted files programs shouldn't crash and the bug must be reported... (it ain't a windows program XD )
[11:37] <jasong5> it keeps telling me i need  libdvdcss and looks like it is installed
[11:38] <kiamo> please can someone take a look at my Xorg.0.log and help me work out why X keeps restarting when i play video files? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2577/
[11:38] <DBFT> hey I cant play my MP3 files - I guess I need a mp3 decoder?
[11:39] <hjmills> !mp3 | DBFT
[11:39] <ubotwo> DBFT: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:39] <LjL> Ubotu, tell DBFT about mp3 | DBFT, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:39] <Jowi> jasong5, https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html
[11:39] <DBFT> thankyou :)
[11:41] <rebz> is there a quick way to be able to tell if i have edgy or fiesty?
[11:41] <LjL> rebz: lsb_release -a
[11:41] <HymnToLife> rebz, uname -r
[11:41] <rebz> thanks
[11:41] <rellik_> which package do I need to install to get flash to work in firefox?
[11:41] <rebz> HymnToLife, : tried that, but thats just the kernel
[11:41] <HymnToLife> though LjL's will tel you that directly
[11:41] <LjL> Ubotu, tell rellik_ about flash | rellik_, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:41] <e_klektic> hjmills, bed time. Thx for help
[11:41] <HymnToLife> rebz, 2.6.15 = Dapper, 2.6.17 = Edgy
[11:41] <rebz> ah :)
[11:42] <kiamo> HymnToLife, did you take a look?
[11:42] <hjmills> e_klektic, sure :D
[11:42] <HymnToLife> kiamo, nope, sorry, could you give the link again ?
[11:42] <kiamo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2577/
[11:42] <kiamo> no worries
[11:42] <kiamo> thanks for any help at all :)
[11:43] <mage> I see edgy doesn't use an inittab, but files in /etc/event.d how to I reload?
[11:43] <ikonia> mage its called upstart
[11:43] <ikonia> !upstart >mage
[11:44] <hjmills> !upstart>me
[11:44] <ubotwo> hjmills: Error: That person could not be found in any channel you're in
[11:44] <hjmills> !upstart>hjmills
[11:44] <LjL> !msg the bot | hjmills
[11:44] <ubotwo> hjmills: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:44] <tomasso> i compiled cvs on linux, can anyone please tell me why every time I try to login with a valid user it keeps asking me user/password ?
[11:44] <ikonia> tomasso: join #cvs
[11:45] <vertz> Hi, i have a problem with my locales, i cant get norwegian charatures to work.. anyone know how to make them work?
[11:45] <ikonia> !utf
[11:45] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[11:45] <ikonia> !utf8
[11:45] <vertz> i got them working, but then my whole system turned norwegian :(
[11:46] <slyfox> Anyone knows how to reset Beryl settings to default ?
[11:46] <slyfox> sorry wrong channel
[11:46] <ant> anyone point me in the right direction of getting avi's to play in totem or anyother player?
[11:46] <erUSUL> !boot > erUSUL
[11:46] <LjL> slyfox: i suppose deleting the ~/.beryl directory would mostly do the trick
[11:46] <LjL> !msg the bot | erUSUL
[11:46] <ubotwo> erUSUL: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:46] <leon_> @ant: install totem-xine
[11:46] <ikonia> ant search for "restricted formats" on https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:46] <ant> thx
[11:48] <Dreamglider> Ok i got 6.06 installed without problems
[11:48] <ikonia> great
[11:48] <Dreamglider> yea took long enought tho :)
[11:48] <slyfox> LjL: that worked, thank you.
[11:48] <erUSUL> LjL: i know ;) simply didn't know that ubotu had changed his name (so i hesitated to msg ubotwo)
[11:49] <Dreamglider> i tried the 64bit version, it was a nogo
[11:49] <rocksori> hmm where can i find the amazing xgl desktop?
[11:49] <LjL> erUSUL: it's ok - it hasn't anyway
[11:49] <LjL> !bot | erUSUL
[11:49] <ubotwo> erUSUL: This is a temporary replacement for Ubotu. You can browse Ubotu's brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:49] <ikonia> rocksori: look for xgl on the wiki
[11:49] <Khem> how can I make default shell to be bash on edgy ?
[11:49] <rocksori> ty ikonia
[11:49] <ikonia> Khem: it is
[11:49] <Khem> I am getting errors with all my scripts
[11:49] <Khem> !/bin/sh
[11:49] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[11:49] <Dreamglider> how can i install ATI drivers on my pc ?
[11:49] <LjL> !dash | khem
[11:49] <ubotwo> khem: /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to "#!/bin/bash"
[11:50] <Khem> ubotwo: yeah thats a PITA
[11:50] <ubotwo> Khem: Error: "yeah" is not a valid command.
[11:50] <ikonia> edgy sucks
[11:50] <mage> ewwww, dash
[11:50] <Khem> I got tonnes of scripts
[11:50] <LjL> Khem: then make /bin/sh point to bash, i suppose. and perhaps expect things to brreak
[11:50] <ikonia> LjL: that works normally
[11:51] <ikonia> bash is supposed to be bourne complient
[11:51] <Khem> LjL: I will rather not do that
[11:51] <chiarato> hi, everyone! I've read every piece of document I could find on the net about my usb adaptor wusb54g i've put rt2570 on the blacklist and got ndiswrapper -i rt2500.inf installed i've got ubuntu edgy 6.10 when i use ifconfig and iwconfig I have the wlan0 working and recognized but i can't connect to the net please someone help!!
[11:51] <mage> why would things break? dash is supposed to be 100% posix
[11:51] <erUSUL> Khem: just do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash' and be done with it
[11:51] <EnsignRedshirt> Khem: But really, since sh != bash (never has), if you are writing bash scripts, it should have been #!/bin/bash all along.
[11:51] <ikonia> mage: it blows
[11:51] <LjL> Khem: well, make up your mind - either you do want bash as default or you don't :)
[11:51] <Jowi> Khem, use "usermod -s"
[11:51] <abo> hi
[11:51] <mage> ikonia: I know dash blows, just should be no trouble going from dash to bash
[11:52] <Khem> sudo dpkg-reconfigure bash is ok
[11:52] <Khem> so I chose dash not to be /bin/sh
[11:52] <Dreamglider> in terminal how do i see what kind of CPU i have
[11:53] <ikonia> Dreamglider: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[11:53] <ikonia> Dreamglider: just use the gui though
[11:53] <Khem> EnsignRedshirt: yeah I am porting stuff from RedHat over
[11:53] <qos> hey guys ...
[11:53] <LjL> Dreamglider: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[11:53] <jasong5> Ok thank you all for the dvd playing help
[11:53] <jasong5> now
[11:53] <chiarato> hi, everyone! I've read every piece of document I could find on the net about my usb adaptor wusb54g i've put rt2570 on the blacklist and got ndiswrapper -i rt2500.inf installed i've got ubuntu edgy 6.10 when i use ifconfig and iwconfig I have the wlan0 working and recognized but i can't connect to the net please someone help!!
[11:54] <jasong5> how duz  put icon ont he desk top  in ubuntu
[11:54] <ikonia> jasong5: read some basic howto docs
[11:54] <erUSUL> chiarato: why are you using ndiswrapper if native drives exist and afaik work?
[11:54] <Dreamglider> thanks
[11:54] <LjL> Ubotu, tell jasong5 about icons | jasong5, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:54] <DBFT> is it possible to hide an application from the menu (I dont want java web start appearing with the web browser etc.)
[11:54] <Dreamglider> Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz
[11:54] <Phuzion> how do I install a .deb file?
[11:55] <LjL> Ubotu, tell phuzion about software | phuzion, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:55] <chiarato> erUSUL: ??
[11:55] <tonyyarusso> DBFT: System > Preferences > Menu layout
[11:55] <ikonia> Dreamglider: we don't need to see that
[11:55] <Dreamglider> Phuzion, try double klick on it :)
[11:55] <Dreamglider> it should work
[11:55] <Phuzion> Dreamglider, headless machine
[11:55] <erUSUL> chiarato: whay have you blacklisted the native drivers?
[11:55] <erUSUL> chiarato: why have you blacklisted the native drivers?
[11:55] <Dreamglider> Phuzion, sorry
[11:55] <Phuzion> No problem
[11:55] <Dreamglider> ikonia, i need a kernel for the cpu
[11:55] <ikonia> Dreamglider: we spoke about this before
[11:55] <LjL> ikonia, to be honest, i don't believe "read some basic docs" is a sensible answer to any questions
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[11:56] <qos> i want to move all dirs in my dir "test1" to "test2", but there are some dirs in "test2" which are named as the ones which should be moved. so i get "mv: cannot overwrite directory..." ... how do i move it so that the dirs get moved into each other?
[11:56] <ikonia> byeee
[11:56] <hjmills> yay!
[11:56] <chiarato> erUSUL: so i can get my wlan0 apper on the admnis networktools as my wireless adapter!
[11:56] <worldwide> After installing Ubuntu, I can not get my box to boot from CD..  Why?
[11:56] <heanol> why is firefox fonts antialiased/smoothtyped/cleartyped/whatever and nothing else in my gnome?
[11:56] <ikonia> worldwide: your bios is probably wrong
[11:57] <worldwide> ikonia:  How do I change them in Linux?
[11:57] <jasong5> how to  doc are ware
[11:57] <ikonia> worldwide: you're bios is nothing to do with linux - its on your motherboard
[11:57] <chiarato> erUSUL: the reason I did that is because I can't connect to the net and that is what I found on the help.wiki site
[11:58] <EnsignRedshirt> qos: rsync might be able to do something like that, but I don't know the specific options that would do it.
[11:58] <worldwide> ikonia:  Well they seemed to be fine locating the LiveCD to install ubuntu.. Now it won't.
[11:58] <ikonia> world wide - your boot options are nothing to do with ubuntu/linux/windows
[11:58] <qos> EnsignRedshirt, arrrrrrrrrgh. could not someone implement it? its a missing and very useful feature :)
[11:59] <worldwide> ikonia:  Why/how would they change after an install?
[11:59] <ikonia> worldwide: don't know
[11:59] <chiarato> erUSUL: are there?
[11:59] <DBFT> in the Menu Layout thing - is it possible to move an item into a directory rather than having to recreate it then delete it?
[11:59] <chiarato> erUSUL: *are u there?
[12:00] <jasong5> i am looking how to put  the trash on the desktop  any idea
[12:00] <ikonia> jasong5: read some basic docs from ubuntu.com
[12:00] <bluefox83> hey, you guys know the little "add to panel" option? how do i add stuff to the list in that?
[12:00] <kiamo> HymnToLife, you around anymore ?
[12:00] <LjL> !icons | jasong5, i already answered i think
[12:00] <ubotwo> jasong5, i already answered i think: Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)