[05:35] <ZykoticK9> Z_Guru, in addition to the kill and killall commands from terminal, there is also the gui xkill program.  NOTE! don't do -9 as noisewaterphd recommended!
[05:36] <noisewaterphd> Z_Guru: as you can see, many options
[05:36] <noisewaterphd> yes do -9
[05:36] <noisewaterphd> just kill that sucka dead
[05:37] <ZykoticK9> noisewaterphd, that's actually a BAD idea.  You should CERTAINLY try with -9 first!
[05:37] <qin> TeamColtra: Just: sudo ifconfig br0 down
[05:37] <ZykoticK9> noisewaterphd, s/with/without/
[05:37] <noisewaterphd> definitely, cut to the chase man
[05:37] <Z_Guru> Wow, but the situation I was in the PC froze while playing a video and no keys on the keyboard responded..
[05:37] <qin> TeamColtra: does xbox uses dhcp?
[05:37] <ZykoticK9> noisewaterphd, that's poor advice
[05:37] <noisewaterphd> qin, yes
[05:38] <TeamColtra> qin, no like I removed all that stuff from my interface file
[05:38] <sphika> magn3ts, yep, I was actually afraid to ask for help. anyway I guess chown'ing the directory fixes it..
[05:38] <noisewaterphd> ZykoticK9: and I think your's is, so leave it be
[05:38] <TeamColtra> so now my computer doesn't try to bridge
[05:38] <magn3ts> sphika, good
[05:38] <TeamColtra> but even still I must have changed something and didn't realize it because I am certainly not at "factory defaults"
[05:39] <qin> TeamColtra: Well, leave lo, and restart networking.
[05:39] <Z_Guru> -9 in the terminal?
[05:39] <TeamColtra> qin, are those commands?
[05:39] <TeamColtra> "leave lo"
[05:39] <TeamColtra> Sorry for being an idiot sometimes :)
[05:39] <ZykoticK9> Z_Guru, try CTRL+ALT+F1 to see if you get a VT, CTRL+ALT+F7 to get back BTW
[05:40] <Z_Guru> Yeah, absolutely none of those combos do anything here.
[05:41] <ZykoticK9> Z_Guru, BTW you could use ALT+PRINTSCREEN+k to "restart" a locked Xorg
[05:41] <qin> TeamColtra: No, networkmanager do not use /etc/networks/interfaces anyway, but "auto lo" line should be there.
[05:41] <john__> Z_Guru, I've seen where ctrl-esc or ctrl-alt-esc can bring up applets to kill processes....
[05:41] <qin> TeamColtra: line 2: iface lo inet loopback
[05:41] <noisewaterphd> Z_Guru, if you've got no keyboard response there isn't much you can do other than restart, unless you have another machine you can use to ssh into the frozen box and kill the locked process
[05:42] <noisewaterphd> Z_Guru: the -9 is an arg to the kill command
[05:43] <TeamColtra> qin, http://paste2.org/p/1491201
[05:43] <TeamColtra> thats what I have (before editing it to what you told me)
[05:43] <Z_Guru> Neat, didn't know you could do that from another machine, cool.
[05:44] <Luxe> When I try to install a theme, it says that it's invalid. Do you guys know if there's a way to fix that?
[05:44] <Luxe> Or if I'm doing it wrong?
[05:45] <qin> TeamColtra: Yeah, you will need to restart: sudo service networking restart
[05:45] <magn3ts> Luxe, probably need to extract it and put the folders into ~/.themes
[05:45] <Luxe> How do I do that? ;/
[05:45] <TeamColtra> teamcoltra@paradoxicon:~$ sudo service networking restart (line2) restart: Unknown instance:
[05:45] <Luxe> Ugh, I swear I'm too stupid for Ubuntu.
[05:46] <TeamColtra> Considering Ubuntu is more user friendly than Windows is... I highly doubt that
[05:46] <Z_Guru> One more question, is there anyway to stream media files from Ubuntu to an Xbox 360?  Like being able to do so trough Windows Media Player?
[05:46] <Luxe> -.-
[05:46] <Luxe> I'm not tech savvy.
[05:46] <noisewaterphd> Luxe: not true man, don't give up, you will LOVE Linux if you give it an honest chance
[05:46] <Luxe> I just can't figure out how to do anything :c
[05:47] <Luxe> I'm trying so hard :P
[05:47] <TeamColtra> you are on IRC, thats a great start
[05:47] <Luxe> Oh.
[05:47] <Luxe> I've been on IRC for years.
[05:47] <Luxe> Like 5.
[05:47] <FloodBot1> Luxe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:47] <Luxe> IRC is easy.
[05:47] <noisewaterphd> Z_Guru: yes! I don't remember the name of the program, just google for it though
[05:47] <Luxe> It's installing this stupid theme that I want that's a pain.
[05:47] <qin> TeamColtra: Tested gui made bridge with any device under the hand (4 different distros &  android tablet) 100% success rate.
[05:47] <TeamColtra> qin,
[05:47] <TeamColtra> hmm
[05:48] <TeamColtra> Then maybe I should have just restarted my xbox when I did it from network manager
[05:48] <qin> Luxe: What theme, metacity, compiz, emerald?
[05:48] <Luxe> Uh.
[05:48] <Luxe> I don't even know. I'm just getting them from gnome-look.
[05:48] <TeamColtra> Luxe, just link us to where you found it
[05:48] <Luxe> Ohkay.
[05:48] <TeamColtra> ;) lets go with baby steps here.
[05:49] <Luxe> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Mac4lin_evo?content=142816
[05:49] <Luxe> This one's the first one I was wanting.
[05:49] <noisewaterphd> Luxe: sorry man, I always just go with default themes so I cant help really. and personally I find the ambiance theme quite nice
[05:49]  * hiexpo passes spoon
[05:49] <noisewaterphd> Luxe: wait, you are using gnome, not unity right?
[05:49] <noisewaterphd> Luxe: what version of ubuntu
[05:49] <Luxe> Yes. Gnome.
[05:49] <meLon> Is there any way to not have to run "export TERM="xterm-256color"" every time I open a new terminal (gnome-terminal)
[05:49] <Luxe> 10.10
[05:50] <Luxe> It's Maverick.
[05:50] <noisewaterphd> Luxe: ok, just checking
[05:50] <Z_Guru> My wife say, glad you love Ubuntu, but I can't stream all your movies and songs like I used to!  So me must find the alternative.  I hate Microsoft!
[05:50] <noisewaterphd> Z_Guru: ushare
[05:51] <noisewaterphd> Z_Guru: http://www.themanfromdelmonte.co.uk/2010/02/09/stream-video-to-xbox-360-from-ubuntu-with-ushare/
[05:51] <TeamColtra> qin, is there a way of me just restoring all my network settings back to default? Because I had it soo close before with exactly the recomendation you gave me
[05:51] <TeamColtra> qin, but I must have changed some setting along the way and I can't tell which it is
[05:51] <TeamColtra> (apart from a reinstall of course :P )
[05:51] <qin> TeamColtra: this how server ifconfig lookslike http://pastebin.com/2bDZVKQk , and ip of client <IP_ADDRESS> ...
[05:52] <milamber> Z_Guru: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Media
[05:52] <qin> TeamColtra: Did you add any rules to iptables?
[05:52] <TeamColtra> Nope
[05:53] <TeamColtra> I was told that I didn't need iptables so I kept away from it
[05:53] <Z_Guru> Excellent! Thank you!  noisewaterphd rules!
[05:53] <noisewaterphd> TeamColtra: have you tried temporarily turning off iptables and testing just to be sure there isnt an issue
[05:53] <qin> TeamColtra: So, restart of network-manager should do, also...
[05:53] <Remedy--> has anyone ever had a problem with dhcpcd saying invalid UDP packet from 192.168.x.x?
[05:53] <TeamColtra> I will purge bridge-utils because thats the only thing left
[05:54] <noisewaterphd> Z_Guru: check out milamber suggestion as well, cause I've never actually used either of them, one might be a better fit for you
[05:54] <qin> TeamColtra: iptables for server http://paste.ubuntu.com/633435/
[05:55] <TeamColtra> qin, that doesn't tell me much (or what I need to do)
[05:55] <qin> TeamColtra: If your setup is same, it have to work, and you would need to check setting of xbox
[05:55] <qin> TeamColtra: your ifconfig, how it looks like? 10 minutes, coffee.
[05:56] <TeamColtra> qin, I know that the support ettiqutte is to do all of our conversing in the public channel to help everyone but do you mind us querying for a bit so I can get a grasp on everything?
[05:57] <Remedy--> anyone?
[05:57] <XMD_> hellp, can anyone help me with installing ubuntu
[05:57] <XMD_> i have boooted Ubuntu from my flash drive, but when i try to install it... it says No root fule system
[05:58] <XMD_> im trying to install it to the same drive I am booting it live
[05:58] <TeamColtra> XMD_, are you saying you want to install it to the flash drive?
[05:59] <XMD_> TeamColtra: yes
[05:59] <TeamColtra> It already is
[05:59] <Remedy--> has anyone ever had a problem with dhcpcd saying invalid UDP packet from 192.168.x.x?
[05:59] <XMD_> ok
[05:59] <XMD_> i get it
[05:59] <XMD_> that swhat I though
[05:59] <XMD_> so then how to i use a .run file?
[06:00] <TeamColtra> Yeah it will show you the install link... but its already installed.
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> Remedy--: how are you connecting?
[06:00] <Z_Guru> You guys are the best!  Thank you both, I will explore both options and get back to you to let you know what worked.  Thanks noisewaterphd and milamber!
[06:00] <TeamColtra> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingRunPackage
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> XMD_: mark it as executable and run it in a terminal
[06:00] <Remedy--> ActionParsnip: what do you mean? its wlan0
[06:00] <TeamColtra> XMD_, ^
[06:00] <milamber> Z_Guru: no problem.
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> Remedy--: then its a wireless connection
[06:00] <XMD_> ok thanks so much for this help, im a new user to ubuntu
[06:00] <Remedy--> ActionParsnip: yes i wasnt sure what you meant
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> Remedy--: tried a different wireless channel, or different (or no) encryption
[06:01] <TeamColtra> XMD_, its what we are here for :)
[06:01] <Remedy--> ActionParsnip: ill try a different wireless channel but id rather have my router running WPA
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> Remedy--: can the wireless interface connect to other wireless routers?
[06:01] <TeamColtra> That and the free coffee canonical gives us...
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> Remedy--: not all wireless interfaces can use WPA under Linux
[06:02] <Remedy--> ActionParsnip: ive had this working before under ubuntu with no problems before
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> Remedy--: thats a ood sign
[06:03] <noisewaterphd> yacc, use WPA2, even WPA is dead simple to crack
[06:03] <Remedy--> ActionParsnip: i literally cannot figure out where the invalid UDP packet is coming from tho...
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> Remedy--: think about it..... your interface is asking for DHCP. What is most likely the ONLY DHCP server you have.....
[06:04] <noisewaterphd> in fact i use WPA2, mac address filter, and change the password weekly here at home
[06:04] <Remedy--> ActionParsnip: obviously i mean tho im not sure why im getting an invalid UDP packet now when ive had this working before
[06:04] <noisewaterphd> but I am required to for work at home purposes
[06:04] <XMD_> TeamColtra:  how do i mark the .run file?
[06:04] <TeamColtra> "mark"?
[06:05] <XMD_> i am tryin got use ubuntu as a OS on my bitoin mining rigs
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> Remedy--: possibly interference on the channel with another router using the same
[06:05] <XMD_> XMD_: mark it as executable and run it in a terminal
[06:05] <XMD_> ?
[06:05] <WilliamC> Okay, Ubtu crashed
[06:05] <WilliamC> Ubuntu crashed on install
[06:05] <WilliamC> During the Installing Language Packs screen
[06:05] <TeamColtra> XMD_, did you view my link?
[06:05] <noisewaterphd> XMD_: well chmod 777 will work for sure
[06:06] <noisewaterphd> if you are just trying to test it out
[06:06] <noisewaterphd> then scale it back for just the proper user afterwords
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> noisewaterphd: not necessary
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> XMD_: if you run:   chmod +x filename       it will mark it as executable
[06:06] <XMD_> TeamColtra: didnt see your link
[06:06] <TeamColtra> XMD_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingRunPackage
[06:07] <noisewaterphd> well and if you su to the user running it you can set x for just that user as well
[06:07] <WilliamC> God damnit
[06:07] <hiexpo> !su
[06:07] <noisewaterphd> but I dont even know what program we are talking about or what kind of security risks are invloved
[06:08] <mrdeb> does relatime make any difference on lts kernel
[06:08] <TeamColtra> noisewaterphd, he is a novice using GUI -- I am going to presume he isn't comfortable with CHOWN
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: its a low latency kernel, great for sound developers
[06:08] <noisewaterphd> gotcha
[06:08] <mrdeb> what
[06:08] <noisewaterphd> jumping in late, ill shush
[06:08] <hiexpo> rtight click file   change ownership than
[06:09] <mrdeb> i asked if addting relatime makes any difference
[06:09] <magn3ts> mrdeb, do you mean "realtime" or "relatime"?
[06:09] <TeamColtra> XMD_, I normally wouldn't "over ride" other people -- but trust me follow the link I just linked to (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingRunPackage ) and follow that and you will have no problems. Disregard the other stuff
[06:09] <Remedy-> ActionParsnip: cheers changing the channel worked perfectly
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime
[06:09] <WilliamC> magn3ts, it's giving me the same error with the regular version.
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> Remedy-: not just a hat stand ;)
[06:10] <magn3ts> WilliamC, is it during install? before? during booting the live cd or what?
[06:10] <WilliamC> During install
[06:10] <magn3ts> Error msg again?
[06:10] <WilliamC> It just says that installer has crashed.
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: I answer your question on realtime. It makes a difference but only in few situations, for standard desktop activities you won't see the benefits
[06:10] <WilliamC> It was during the language pack installation phase
[06:11] <magn3ts> WilliamC, hm
[06:11] <magn3ts> WilliamC, after it crashes... what do you get/see?
[06:11] <WilliamC> A desktop
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> Remedy-: someone nearby just got a new router and wasn't courteous (or smart) enough to scan to see what channels should be ok
[06:11] <XMD_> TeamColtra: after i run the thing in the terminal, the terminal just disappears/
[06:11] <magn3ts> Also, have you tried booting it? I think it install the lang packs after installing grub (but I could be wrong)
[06:11] <TeamColtra> XMD_, then its probably installed.
[06:11] <WilliamC> Then it tried to boot into desktop and show me the error log but that kept giving IO errors
[06:11] <XMD_> oh wow, i have never used this before...
[06:11] <WilliamC> I tried booting normally but my computer behaved as if no OS was installed
[06:11] <XMD_> where was it installed?
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> XMD_: what filename do you have which you want to run?
[06:12] <XMD_> its the ATI drives
[06:12] <WilliamC> What other Linux distro should I use?
[06:13] <Remedy-> ActionParsnip: well im glad it works now, this actually wasnt an ubuntu problem i recently switched to arch linux and i just tried asking in here hoping someone had the same problem before
[06:13] <XMD_> drivers for my video cards
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> Remedy-: arch isnt supported here
[06:13] <somethinginteres> hi all can someone tell me how to find the /dev/ path to my internal mic. I see /dev/snd but using that path with ffmpeg results in an error
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> Remedy-: ask in the arch channel in future, or switch to ubuntu
[06:13] <rcmaehl> My computer at a random time hard-freezes when runnning java. How can I find out the cause?
[06:14] <tadasbiz> guys quick question, i got older supermicro server laying around and just curious when it comes to pci-x/e - lets say i wanna put newer raid contreoller in it, does it really depend on the mother board, or "as long as it fits - it will work" ?
[06:14] <TeamColtra> Rarely do you need to install drivers from anywhere else but Ubuntu... and I would say more often than not you don't need those drivers in the first place. Is it a special GPU that doesn't have its driver in the Ubuntu repos yet?
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> tadasbiz: i'd ask in ##hardware
[06:14] <tadasbiz> thank you, will do.
[06:14] <rcmaehl> 11.04 64-bit
[06:15] <NielsMkn> hey guys, How do I remove the grub loader and get my windows loader back?
[06:15] <rcmaehl> Nielsen: reinstall windows?
[06:15] <mrdeb> NielsMkn: windows repaid option off cd
[06:15] <mrdeb> repair
[06:16] <NielsMkn> ah can I use syslinux for this?
[06:16] <rcmaehl> no
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> NielsMkn: use your windows CD, ask in ##windows
[06:17] <NielsMkn> ok thanks :)
[06:17] <WilliamC> I just did upgrade from the failed install
[06:17] <folivora> Hello. I've got weird issue with my Ubuntu. After upgrade, i have used my ubuntu about two weeks. Now sudently, none of the applications wont start. Firefox ect... No errors in logs.
[06:17] <joar> NielsMkn back in 2004 or so I remember MAndriva / mandrake had an option on the installer cd to restore/ recreate windows boot
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> rcmaehl: is the ram healthy?
[06:17] <AcidRain> NielsMkn: this is a linux irc server
[06:17] <folivora> Any idea ? I've checked HW, by dmesg it is allright.
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> joar: good ol mandrake :)
[06:17] <joar> :p
[06:17] <rcmaehl> ActionParsnip: Memtest detects no errors and it only happens with java
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> rcmaehl: how did you install java?
[06:18] <folivora> Desktop works fine, no lag or issues, but when i am trying to start some app. IT wont start
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> folivora: run firefox from a terminal, what is output?
[06:18] <rcmaehl> ActionParsnip: umm repos i think
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> rcmaehl: try: http://www.multimediaboom.com/how-to-install-java-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal-ppa/
[06:19] <rcmaehl> ActionParsnip: ok
[06:19] <WilliamC> Where can I find known installer bugs?
[06:20] <rcmaehl> ActionParsnip: what about what I'm using now
[06:20] <rcmaehl> Which is openjdk
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> rcmaehl: not sure of that, that is a very good PPA with 64bit and 32bit java. If you want to use openjdk then I've no idea there as I don't use it :(
[06:21] <rcmaehl> ok
[06:21] <rcmaehl> thx
[06:22] <update> whats the best hacking book to read
[06:22] <magn3ts> update, what kind of hacking? this may not be appropriate for #ubuntu.
[06:23] <NielsMkn> later guys
[06:23] <update> magn3ts what channel would i go to
[06:23] <rcmaehl> ActionParsnip: ill let you know if it works
[06:23] <magn3ts> update, well like I said, depends on what you're really asking about. You can PM me if you like.
[06:23] <WilliamC> magn3ts, if Ubuntu doesn't work, what distro would you recommend?
[06:24] <magn3ts> WilliamC, did you answer my last question to you?
[06:24] <WilliamC> Yeah
[06:24] <magn3ts> WilliamC, depends on if it's a hardware thing or a bug in the installer.
[06:24] <magn3ts> lol
[06:24] <magn3ts> your disc is bad or your CD ROM is broken probably
[06:24] <magn3ts> Or your HD is failing.
[06:25] <update> everytime i start up ubuntu my screen freezes and i have to use a keyboard shortcut to unfreeze my screen.  Anyone have any ideas whats wrong?
[06:25] <magn3ts> based on IO errors... I'd recommend checking the disc on boot WilliamC
[06:25] <WilliamC> magn3ts, I already did that for hours
[06:25] <magn3ts> WilliamC, the memory check or disc check?
[06:26] <WilliamC> I ran the Boot and Nuke
[06:26] <magn3ts> The disk check should not take hours...
[06:26] <magn3ts> WilliamC, uh, not what I'm talking about at all.
[06:26] <magn3ts> DBAN isn't helpful in any of these scenaris
[06:26] <WilliamC> magn3ts, it checked for HDD errors at the same time
[06:26] <magn3ts> uh, DBAN? No, not the kind of check I'm talking about.
[06:26] <Cydd> what are these kinds of websites called http://tagwarrior.com/preview/?theme=BlueSteel%202.0  -- where the top bar extends across the screen like that? See a lot of sites like them but do they have a name?
[06:27] <Jordan_U> !ot | Cydd
[06:27] <Cydd> OMG
[06:27] <Cydd> jordan hates me!
[06:27] <magn3ts> WilliamC, DBAN is only used for Hard Drive wiping, which isn't really of concern to us right now.
[06:27] <magn3ts> Cydd, what do you mean? That's just a style property, not hard to reproduce on any old site.
[06:28] <WilliamC> magn3ts, maybe I should turn off update while installing
[06:28] <thunder1212> hi
[06:28] <magn3ts> WilliamC, lol, I told you things to try ;)
[06:28] <magn3ts> WilliamC, when the disc loads, don't press "Run/Install Ubuntu"
[06:28] <magn3ts> click, "Check Disc for Errors"
[06:28] <magn3ts> that shouldn't take a long time and I suspect is going to tell you that there is an error with the CD you made.
[06:28] <thunder1212> am usin' ubuntu lucid, should i install gnome shell from repos and it will have gnome3 desk environment??
[06:29] <magn3ts> thunder1212, you shouldn't install anything related to gnome3 in that ancient install.
[06:29] <magn3ts> thunder1212, gnome3 ppa break Natty... I'd hate to see what it does to Lucid.
[06:29] <WilliamC> Can I have Ubuntu continue from the point of failure?
[06:30] <hammoommah> hello all, whats the easiest solution for sharing my media dfiles between local users on laptop ubuntu 11.04
[06:30] <magn3ts> WilliamC, you mean when you go through can the installer pick up where it left off?
[06:30] <WilliamC> yeah
[06:30] <magn3ts> WilliamC, no. It can't do that.
[06:30] <WilliamC> damnit
[06:30] <magn3ts> Even if there was a way to code that reliably, the feature would probably never be developed for time-cost.
[06:30] <thunder1212> magn3ts, ok so the upgrade is not yet stable, and i should stick to gnome 2.. right : ) ?
[06:31] <magn3ts> thunder1212, yes
[06:31] <WilliamC> Where is the crash log located?
[06:31] <magn3ts> thunder1212, I wouldn't really think about gnome3 until Oneiric.
[06:31] <magn3ts> When it will be available and supported.
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-shell
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: gnome shell isn't in the repos
[06:32] <thunder1212> magn3ts, will Oneiric will release with gnome 3 ?
[06:32] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip, i enable lucid proposed and its showing there
[06:32] <hammoommah> should i create share folder in /share dir and use symlinks from each home folder?
[06:32] <magn3ts> thunder1212, not on disc or in the install.
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: oneiric isn't discussed here, ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:32] <magn3ts> you would have had to have enabled the gnome3 ppa to see gnome-shell in lucid.
[06:32] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip, ok
[06:33] <hammoommah> how do i get around permissions for sharing too?
[06:33] <WilliamC> I found the error
[06:34] <thunder1212> magn3ts, ok its there and its 5 Mb file i think its something incomplete.. anyway, i will stick to gnome 2 thnx ; )
[06:34] <WilliamC> SQUASHFS Error: unable to read data cache entry
[06:34] <thunder1212> Bye..
[06:34] <hammoommah> anyone?
[06:35] <qin> hammoommah: Sharing?
[06:35] <hammoommah> between users on local machine
[06:35] <hammoommah> all their media
[06:36] <bhavesh> Is the Ubuntu Software Center used in Ubuntu 11.04 version 4.0?
[06:36] <hammoommah> just wondering what the easist solution is
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> hammoommah: you could make a group and add the users you want to give acceess to the folder to the group, then make that group the group owner of the data
[06:37] <qin> hammoommah: idealy, make group sharingfolks and add users to that group, chown (ownership) /share for group and match permissions group in /share
[06:37] <hammoommah> ok coolies can do thanks
[06:37] <qin> ActionParsnip: Neat.
[06:38] <sawyer> test
[06:38] <magn3ts> WilliamC, like I said, I'm willing to bet it's a problem with: Your CD drive, Your CD, Your Hard Drive.
[06:39] <magn3ts> WilliamC, something, somewhere is trying to read something and is either unable to, or is getting corrupt data.
[06:39] <magn3ts> The chances of it being physical/media related is greater than a bug IMO (as a developer and troubleshooter)
[06:39] <WilliamC> It failed at both spots so it's probably the CD
[06:40] <WilliamC> I'm running a full RAM check right now
[06:40] <bazhang> WilliamC, md5 the iso and do the disk integrity check yet?
[06:41] <Israfel> I've been trying to install Virtualbox, but every method I've found doesn't work.
[06:41] <bazhang> Israfel, which version
[06:41] <Marco> hi, is it possible to pass a path to sudo?
[06:41] <sawyer> exit
[06:42] <Israfel> bazhang, 4.04
[06:42] <Israfel> bazhang, virtualbox-4.0_4.0.8-71778~Ubuntu~natty_amd64.deb
[06:43] <Israfel> bazhang, Also tried the script here: http://www.multimediaboom.com/install-virtualbox-4-0-4-in-ubuntu-11-04-10-10-10-04/
[06:43] <qin> Israfel: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[06:43] <magn3ts> WilliamC, :/ just check the CD. RAM check will take over 10 times longer than the disc check....
[06:44] <magn3ts> its really, really, really easy to check too
[06:44] <ice9> Hey folks, I've got a line6 ux2, a piece of recording hardware, essentially an external sound card, and I found some drivers for it, but I'm not sure how proceed from there
[06:44] <magn3ts> ice9, not supported out of the box? What form are the drivers in?
[06:44] <magn3ts> (I don't really know how to help you, but that question is helpful to whoever can)
[06:45] <ice9> magn3ts, its from a subversion repository
[06:45] <magn3ts> ice9, link
[06:45] <ice9> svn co https://line6linux.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/line6linux/driver/trunk line6usb
[06:45] <ice9> http://www.tanzband-scream.at/line6/
[06:45] <Israfel> qin, unmet dependancie.
[06:45] <ice9> is where I found them
[06:45] <magn3ts> ice9, looks like it should be included in ubuntu according to the readme...
[06:46] <magn3ts> well, maybe not, I can't quite tell here.
[06:46] <ice9> how do I get to them?
[06:47] <magn3ts> ice9, the README tells you what you need to know
[06:47] <magn3ts> er, INSTALL: https://line6linux.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/line6linux/driver/trunk/INSTALL
[06:47] <Cydd> omfg amazing voice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22Br5N3jOes
[06:48] <magn3ts> Cydd, do you need IRC rooms to post random stuff too? I have plenty that would appreciate it more than #ubuntu.
[06:48] <anonboo> Cydd, wrong channel
[06:48] <bazhang> Cydd, dont paste here
[06:48] <snimavat> Does ubuntu work on i7 sandy bridge CPU's ?
[06:48] <magn3ts> yes
[06:48] <snimavat> Will it work on my Dell XPS www.dell.com/us/p/xps-l502x/fs
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> snimavat: should be fine
[06:48] <magn3ts> probably
[06:48] <snimavat> Will it support the Nvidia G force 525 optimus ?
[06:48] <Cydd> omg
[06:48] <Cydd> the hate
[06:49] <Cydd> why dont you guys just lynch him
[06:49] <Cydd> here
[06:49] <bazhang> Cydd, stop
[06:49]  * Cydd grabs rope
[06:49] <FloodBot1> Cydd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:49] <magn3ts> Cydd, it's a high traffic channel and you're spamming. what do you expect.
[06:49] <magn3ts> snimavat, probably?
[06:49] <snimavat> Okey, Great
[06:50] <SwedeMike> snimavat: I wouldn't base purchasing decisions on guessing. you need to do more research than ask here.
[06:50] <snimavat> I have ordered, Dell xps i7, 8GB, 750GB, Nvidia G force 525 optimus, blueray. Was concerned about ubuntu working on it
[06:50] <marcusg67> hello all, i have just set up a new comp, and when i boot, my new monitor says that Grub's resolution is "out of bounds" how do i change resolution that grub boots witbh
[06:50] <magn3ts> snimavat, SwedeMike is very right.
[06:50] <snimavat> SwedeMike : I am not in the process of deciding, i have already ordered.
[06:50] <DarsVaeda> hi, I miss the network-manager symbol in gnome / natty cause I'm on ethernet, how do I get it?
[06:51] <ice9> magn3ts, I'm sorry, I'm relearning all of this, but I get an error message doing the rpmbuild from that readme
[06:51] <SwedeMike> snimavat: well, then the only way to know is to try it.
[06:51] <magn3ts> DarsVaeda, Open your Networking app and click the check box :)
[06:51] <DarsVaeda> where do I find that?
[06:51] <marcusg67> snimavat: that system should work nice with ubuntu
[06:51] <magn3ts> ice9, :/ you don't want to do RPM stuff in ubuntu. RPM is for redhat-related distros.
[06:51] <SwedeMike> snimavat: I am a lot less sure that it'll work ok than other people here.
[06:51] <snimavat> SwedeMike: Have not received it yet, but thanks
[06:51] <magn3ts> DarsVaeda, you in Unity?
[06:51] <DarsVaeda> nope gnome
[06:51] <WilliamC> magn3ts, how long do you think it should take?
[06:52] <DarsVaeda> I was in "network connections" but there is no said checkbox
[06:52] <magn3ts> WilliamC, the CD check? idk, when doing it in Ubuntu it takes less than 3 minutes... can't imagine ti would take much longer.
[06:52] <magn3ts> DarsVaeda, hm, you're right.
[06:52] <ice9> magn3ts, the source isn't working either, but I think I'm missing a step
[06:52] <snimavat> I have heard that Linux doesnt support the new i7 quad core cpus yet
[06:52] <magn3ts> DarsVaeda, How did I do this before. Give me a sec.
[06:52] <DarsVaeda> I also know there is such checkbox anywere
[06:52] <DarsVaeda> or was
[06:52] <magn3ts> ice9, "make install" didn't work?
[06:53] <gartral> snimavat: that is a lie
[06:53] <WilliamC> magn3ts, no errors
[06:53] <magn3ts> snimavat, I have no idea why or how that could be true
[06:53] <magn3ts> WilliamC, :/ uhm...
[06:53] <snimavat> Okey, Thanks to you all friends here
[06:53] <ice9> magn3ts, the first step of "tar xjf line6usb-0.9.1beta.tar.bz2
[06:53] <ice9> "
[06:53] <ice9> says not found
[06:53] <magn3ts> I would either try installing from a USB or download a HD check utility from your HD manufacturers' site.
[06:53] <magn3ts> WilliamC, does your HD click or anything?
[06:53] <WilliamC> no
[06:54] <magn3ts> ice9, lol you need to be in the directory where you downloaded the line6usb TAR.GZ (think of ZIP) file to.
[06:54] <V3NG3NC3> O.o
[06:54]  * V3NG3NC3 taps the mic
[06:54] <V3NG3NC3> this thing on?
[06:54] <magn3ts> yes V3NG3NC3
[06:54] <ice9> magn3ts, where does it go by default?
[06:54] <bazhang> V3NG3NC3, ubuntu support issue?
[06:54] <WilliamC> magn3ts, I think I'll disable the update during install setting
[06:54] <magn3ts> WilliamC, I'd google the error message you found, make sure you have the terminal-ending error message...
[06:54] <V3NG3NC3> This is my very first time on IRC ever, very first room
[06:54] <Israfel> Apparently "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian natty contrib" is a broken repository.
[06:54] <magn3ts> ice9, IDK, /home/ice9/Downloads ?
[06:55] <magn3ts> Israfel, doesn't look like it to me. http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/pool/contrib/v/virtualbox-4.0/
[06:55] <V3NG3NC3> is this a chill room or support room?
[06:55] <WilliamC> support
[06:55] <magn3ts> V3NG3NC3, support, there's probably #ubuntu-ot or something.
[06:55] <bazhang> V3NG3NC3, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:55] <V3NG3NC3> oh nice
[06:55] <V3NG3NC3> thanks
[06:55] <V3NG3NC3> wish I knew about this last nigth
[06:55] <VerticalAsymptot>
[06:55] <Israfel> magn3ts, Synaptic is giving a Broken error.
[06:55] <V3NG3NC3> was installing Lubuntu
[06:56] <magn3ts> Israfel, pastebin it to me, it's probably nonfatal. I get broken errors oftne.
[06:56] <Israfel> magn3ts, How do I do it outside the GUI so I can echo it to a file?
[06:58] <magn3ts> Israfel, `` sudo bash -c "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade" &> out.txt
[06:58] <c_nick> how to check the CPU temperature?
[06:58] <magn3ts> Israfel, that will place standard and error output into out.txt
[06:58] <bazhang> !sensors > c_nick
[06:58] <gartral> snimavat: that system should work nice with ubuntu
[06:58] <gartral> hello all, i have just set up a new comp, and when i boot, my new monitor says that Grub's resolution is "out of bounds" how do i change resolution that grub boots witbh
[06:59] <dr_Willis> gartral:  edit /etc/default/grub
[06:59] <gartral> btw im on ubuntu 11.04 wit grub 2
[07:00] <dr_Willis> gartral:  one line to uncommet for a 640*480 grub screen wirks for me
[07:00] <ice9> Magn3ts, thanks for the help, got it all installed, the device is usb, how do I get it to power on or register?
[07:00] <dr_Willis> then update-grub
[07:00] <magn3ts> ice9, uh, no clue from there buddy
[07:00] <gartral> dr_Willis: i just changed it
[07:01] <WilliamC> magn3ts, I'm installing on the other HDD
[07:01] <magn3ts> WilliamC, good call.
[07:01] <WilliamC> But the other one is bigger and made by a better company
[07:01] <dr_Willis> gartral:  i had to use that on a few problem boxs. i think thats the only edit i did.
[07:01] <magn3ts> If it breaks now, it's either a bug or a problem with the CD-rom itself, but that seems unlikely since it passed the disc-check
[07:02] <Israfel> magn3ts, http://pastebin.com/5CUVD16t
[07:02] <magn3ts> WilliamC, man, I've had bad luck with every consumer disk brand to be honest
[07:02] <magn3ts> Israfel, that error is a problem with something else.
[07:02] <dr_Willis> they make disks cheap these days
[07:02] <gartral> dr_Willis: well, imma reboot. i'll brb if it failed
[07:02] <WilliamC> It's an 80 GB SeaGate and a 60GB WD Caviar
[07:02] <Israfel> Israfel, yeah, it doesn't mention the same error as the GUI.
[07:02] <magn3ts> Israfel, if you read it there, you can see: for some reason it's unable to install some dependency of virtualbox. I don't know how to cause or undo that configuration.
[07:03] <magn3ts> Israfel, not sure what you mean...
[07:03] <DarsVaeda> magn3ts: the solution was simple, although really uncomfortable ">: nm-applet"
[07:03] <magn3ts> DarsVaeda, hahaha, enjoy yourself.
[07:04] <magn3ts> DarsVaeda, in Natty it's an app-indicator ;)
[07:04] <Israfel> magn3ts, In Synaptic GUI it says I have a broken repository and to find it using the Broken filter.
[07:04] <DarsVaeda> I still have no idea how to make it stay there permanent thou
[07:04] <magn3ts> Israfel, does it say why it's broken?
[07:04] <Israfel> magn3ts, Nope
[07:04] <magn3ts> Israfel, I'm willing to bet money it says "broken package" and not "broken repository"
[07:04] <Israfel> magn3ts, Maybe, i had to close it to run the CLI
[07:05] <magn3ts> Israfel, you can try it again if you like and let me know... I bet it will say that Virtualbox-4.0 is in a broken state.
[07:05] <snimavat> BTW: for i7 Sandy bridge CPU, I will need to download the 64 bit verion of ubuntu ryt
[07:05] <magn3ts> Israfel, I can show you how to remove Virtualbox-4.0, but I can't help you resolve that dependency problem... outside of saying to try enable multiverse/universe/etc.
[07:05] <Israfel> magn3ts, maybe I'll download 4.08 and give that one a try.
[07:06] <magn3ts> Israfel, wat.
[07:06] <magn3ts> Israfel, if you download the DEB and try to install it... it's going to tell you the precisely same thing.
[07:07] <Guest99221> hi, is there anybody using an Intel Sandy Bridge CPU+GPU ? it seems the GUI will lockup in Ubuntu 11.04.
[07:07] <hechu> hi, is there anybody using an Intel Sandy Bridge CPU+GPU ? it seems the GUI will lockup in Ubuntu 11.04.
[07:08] <TvL2386> is there a simple way to tell rails to use left joins instead of inner joins without writing the sql yourself?
[07:08] <Israfel> magn3ts, Well, I was going to try the source. Since there deb package isn't available from the website yet.
[07:08] <magn3ts> TvL2386, #rails
[07:08] <magn3ts> Israfel, oh.
[07:08] <TvL2386> magn3ts, whoops... wrong channel :D
[07:09] <magn3ts> Israfel, also, there are DEBS very available on vb.org.
[07:09] <SwedeMike> hechu: it locks up on a 2.5 year old intel centrino 2 as well, 11.04 is the most unstable release so far, and I've been running it on my thinkpad x200 since 8.10
[07:09] <magn3ts> Israfel, lol right on the Linux_Downloads page.
[07:09] <Israfel> magn3ts, Oh, thanks.  Ubuntu usually runs fine on my old Dell laptop, but after I bought a new HP i5 laptop, the lockup occurs always almost every time as long as I use Intel driver. I have to switch to "fbdev" driver.
[07:14] <Romme> what can i do if i find myself unable to switch to virtual consoles?
[07:14] <gartral> dr_Willis: nope. didn't work, i think it's something to do wit the Westinghouse monitor the machine is hooked up to
[07:15] <Israfel> Romme, You can always just use screens instead.
[07:15] <Romme> Israfel: i'm in xorg now
[07:15] <gartral> dr_Willis: this is quite annoying as now i can't see Grub boot into windows
[07:15] <instantly> sup
[07:15] <WilliamC> It installed
[07:16] <instantly> hey
[07:16] <Israfel> Romme, Ah, you're in a GUI and want a console?
[07:16] <Romme> Israfel: yep
[07:16] <update> gentoo vs. ubuntu
[07:16] <instantly> who'd win?
[07:16] <dr_Willis> gartral:  odd there should be some mode/options that give you a basic text based grub menu. thsts what i use
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> update: tat is offtopic here
[07:17] <update> my bad actionparsnip
[07:17] <dr_Willis> gartral:  im not at home so cant check my vonfigs
[07:17] <Israfel> Romme, Ctrl-Alt-F1. F7 for GUI again
[07:17] <Romme> Israfel: if it worked, it would be cool :)
[07:17] <WilliamC> How do I setup autologon?
[07:18] <Israfel> Romme, It's not a virtual console, but it's a console if you need one.
[07:18] <gartral> dr_Willis: can i pm you my email
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> WilliamC: its in "login screen"
[07:18] <dr_Willis> ill just lose it gartral  im on my vellphone.
[07:19] <tadasbiz> guys can you run dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync or hdparm /dev/your_drive just curious what is the usual i/o.
[07:19] <dr_Willis> very basic irc vlient here
[07:19] <gartral> dr_Willis: i can now confirm it's a monitor issue as the VT (F1-F6) gives me the same problems
[07:20] <Romme> Israfel: nevermind, i found the issue
[07:20] <gartral> dr_Willis: ok, ok. i'll remember too bring it up later if that's ok. when will you be home?
[07:20] <dr_Willis> gartral:  hmm there is the text option that may gix the consoles. but not grub
[07:20] <Romme> it was the gnome keyboard layout switcher, or whatever it's called
[07:20] <dr_Willis> 8 hrs from now. unless i get To do 12hrs
[07:20] <Romme> it was telling xorg to capture Ctrl + Alt + Whatever keys
[07:21] <gartral> dr_Willis: i'll remember tomarrow. if that's ok?
[07:21] <dr_Willis> gartral:  check askubuntu.com also
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> tadasbiz: http://pastie.org/2127661
[07:21] <gartral> dr_Willis: will do
[07:21] <dr_Willis> ill be here sometime. heh
[07:21] <tadasbiz> ty
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> tadasbiz: its an 80Gb PATA drive
[07:21] <WilliamC> I don't see where the administrative settings are in the new version
[07:21] <arney> has the alt-f2 pasting issue been fixed?
[07:21] <gartral> dr_Willis: lol. ok
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> arney: what was the issue?
[07:22] <arney> that I can't paste into the unity alt-f2
[07:24] <OerHeks> arney, yes you can paste with click on mousewheen
[07:24] <OerHeks> or wheel
[07:24] <Milossh> how much RAM does ubuntu 32 support?
[07:24] <Milossh> ubuntu 11.04, that is
[07:25] <OerHeks> Milossh, 4 Gb
[07:25] <WilliamC> Holy crap, my Seagate has 46 bad sectors
[07:25] <Milossh> ok, then I'm switching to 32bit :)
[07:26] <Milossh> any easy way to downgrade to 32 bit version?
[07:26] <XMD_> #bitcoin-mining
[07:26] <WilliamC> So, do HDD sectors just go bad over time?
[07:26] <wildbat> WilliamC: they do
[07:27] <WilliamC> This computer is about a decade old, well, the one I'm installing on
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: 32bit will run about 4Gb, 32bit PAE can use 12Gb
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: reinstall will be needed to switch to 32bit
[07:27] <Milossh> ActionParsnip, full install?
[07:27] <Milossh> as in, remove everything and install?
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> WilliamC: they wear out, yes. I'd ask in ##hardware
[07:28] <pcypher> has anyone had luck getting 5.1 sound using a realtek acl892 chipset on an asus p8p67 mobo running 10.10 ?
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: yes, you can restore user data and settings from backup
[07:28] <Milossh> ActionParsnip, which backup software would you recommend?
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: there are many, I just use a cheap and cheerful copy and paste. Why do you not have a backup?
[07:30] <Milossh> ActionParsnip, never needed it :/
[07:30] <sandGorgon> Phoronix bisects linux power problem for upto 15% battery life savings http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=16181 . try adding "pcie_aspm=force" to your boot commandline
[07:30] <Milossh> but this is the first time I'm using 64bit
[07:30] <Milossh> and it sucks, big time
[07:31] <Milossh> I mean, os as distribution, is ok. but apps for it just suck
[07:31] <Milossh> skype, for one
[07:31] <dr_Willis> i cant think of any 64bit iddues iv ever had
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: there is 64bit skype
[07:32] <Milossh> also, is there a plan for thunderbird to replace evolution?
[07:32] <dr_Willis> i imsgine skype for linux will vanish soon
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> dr_Willis: nar, too much revenue loss from users
[07:32] <Milossh> dr_Willis, yeah, I expect nothing less from Microsoft
[07:32] <dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  time will tell
[07:33] <V3NG3NC3> is there a nice room for ubuntu nto full of trolls?
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> dr_Willis: microsoft love that money
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> V3NG3NC3: here
[07:33] <V3NG3NC3> :)
[07:34] <V3NG3NC3> So what's the convo?
[07:34] <V3NG3NC3> oh got a few questions
[07:34] <bazhang> V3NG3NC3, ubuntu support only
[07:34] <V3NG3NC3> ubuntu ?
[07:34] <bazhang> V3NG3NC3, yes
[07:34] <V3NG3NC3> I use cinema4d on windows
[07:34] <V3NG3NC3> what is a linux equivlant?
[07:35] <bazhang> V3NG3NC3, ##windows then
[07:35] <V3NG3NC3> nanan
[07:35] <V3NG3NC3> ^read
[07:35] <bazhang> !equivalents | V3NG3NC3
[07:35] <pcypher> one more shot... has anyone had luck getting 5.1 sound using a realtek acl892 chipset on an asus p8p67 mobo running 10.10 ?
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> V3NG3NC3: is it a 3D photo viewer?/
[07:35] <V3NG3NC3> nah, 3D how you say,...
[07:35] <V3NG3NC3> um
[07:36] <V3NG3NC3> 3D video moddleing
[07:36] <bazhang> V3NG3NC3, check the link yet?
[07:36] <V3NG3NC3> looking now
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> V3NG3NC3: blender
[07:36] <dr_Willis> never heard of it. what dies it do
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> V3NG3NC3: http://techcityinc.com/2009/01/20/free-3d-graphic-design-applications-for-linux/
[07:38] <pcypher> ls
[07:38] <pcypher> oops sorry
[07:39] <V3NG3NC3> Crystal Space looks promising
[07:39] <V3NG3NC3> blender makes me wanna vommit
[07:39] <V3NG3NC3> lol
[07:39] <magn3ts> they just redid the whole ui
[07:40] <c_nick> on running sensors I get temp1 (which i presume is CPU) M/B temp: (which is presume is Motherboard) but there is also a temp3 (which is remote) what is this remote temp ?
[07:40] <whosurdaddy> hello
[07:40] <V3NG3NC3> wow this looks kewl
[07:40] <V3NG3NC3> http://www.gsmarena.com/mobiado_and_aston_martin_show_transparent_droid_phone_concept-news-2448.php
[07:41] <bazhang> !ot | V3NG3NC3
[07:44] <petsounds> pcypher, 5.1 sound when playing dvd? or are you trying to upmix stereo file to 5.1? at home i have p8 too and have no prob getting 5.1 sound, it's out of the box.
[07:45] <arney> argh, I just updated ubuntu and my unity alt-F2 still doesn't take pasting.
[07:45] <arney> How do I fix that
[07:45] <magn3ts> given unity as a whole, you probably dont
[07:46] <Luxe> http://i.imgur.com/Z8WJ1.png
[07:46] <Luxe> I finished my desktop <3
[07:46] <Starminn> Banshee will not open. I have tried purging it and reinstalling, but it continually gives me this error: http://pastie.org/2122608 while launching it from terminal gives me this: http://pastie.org/2122611
[07:46] <pcypher> petsounds: all I can do is stereo... if I try to select 5.1 no sounds from any channel. I have not tried from a dvd yet, just file playback
[07:47] <pcypher> petsounds: my reading led me to believe this was a common and known issue
[07:47] <magn3ts> Luxe, you're only missing Cardapio
[07:47] <arney> any alternatives to Alt-F2?
[07:47] <nawk> is there a known issue with multi-monitor setup (xinerama) in Natty Narwhal?
[07:47] <Luxe> Cardapio?
[07:47] <Luxe> What's that again?
[07:48] <magn3ts> Luxe, http://images.maketecheasier.com/2010/06/appmenu-cardapio.png
[07:48] <arney> nawk: edge finding is broken in comy piz
[07:49] <nawk> I've been using the exact same xorg.conf for my triple monitor setup w/o problems,  but in 11.04 the other two screen goes black
[07:49] <petsounds> pcypher, did sound volume icon looks mute? also try to install pavumeter you can configure per channel volume from there.
[07:49] <nawk> *but* you could clearly see the cursor being able to move between the *3 monitors
[07:50] <pcypher> petsounds: ill give that a shot, thanks
[07:50] <petsounds> pcypher, yw
[07:50] <dimas_> i am trying to start jackd alsa ans says that the default server is already running...how i know what is running?
[07:51] <Luxe> I don't want that magn3ts
[07:53] <dimas_> what could be running as a default server using the sound jack?...and i just restart the computer
[07:53] <hondje> this is stupid, but where do i change the ntp server?
[07:54] <dr_Willis> dimas_:  the service command
[07:55] <dimas_> the service command?...what is that?...using the sound jack?
[07:55] <dr_Willis> nawk:  natty well unity. had some muitidisplay issues
[07:55] <dr_Willis> sudo service --help
[07:56] <dr_Willis> !jackd
[07:56] <dimas_> i am trying to start an application and dont start cause the jack is in use...so how i can terminate the default server using it?...or is it possible?
[07:56] <dr_Willis> hmm ibe never needed jackd.
[07:57] <dimas_> me either
[07:57] <dr_Willis> pulse service nay be using it
[07:57] <dimas_> but how i find out who use it?
[07:57] <Starminn> Banshee will not open. I have tried purging it and reinstalling, but it continually gives me this error: http://pastie.org/2122608 while launching it from terminal gives me this: http://pastie.org/2122611
[07:57] <dr_Willis> pulse is about the only other audio servive i know of
[07:59] <dimas_> willis the terminal display the help but i dont really know much about what to do with that info...lol
[08:00] <hondje> nvm found it
[08:03] <leagris> Hello, what's that update-apt-xapi taking 99% cpu ?
[08:03] <dr_Willis> dimas_:  puse audio is rhe only other thing be default that is a sound relatwd serbice
[08:04] <dimas_> i dont think i have that
[08:04] <dimas_> i check
[08:05] <dr_Willis> pulse is default in ubuntu
[08:05] <dr_Willis> !pulse
[08:08] <leagris> dr_Willis, look like you messed the order of your fingers this morning when your brain returned from suspend mode ;d
[08:15] <Guest95677> is there a way to restore groups after using chgrp?
[08:16] <_NiC> Guest95677, from backup, I guess.
[08:17] <_NiC> or just use chgrp again.. :)
[08:18] <Guest95677> _NiC: I ran chgrp -R http / which got to run for 2-3 seconds before I realized what happened and aborted it
[08:18] <Guest95677> Are there some logs produced by chgrp?
[08:19] <_NiC> Guest95677, wups. :) No logging unless you used verbose and piped to a file..
[08:19] <DND> hi guys, do you know any cloud based file server that offers also some "collaboration"? i mean something like: one file can be edited by multiple users
[08:20] <_NiC> Guest95677, you can at least find out what's been changed: find / -user http and if you're lucky, there's a fair chance that it'll be fine by setting those to group root.
[08:20] <DND> we wanted to implement our own server
[08:20] <_NiC> Guest95677, depending on which files are affected of course
[08:20] <Guest95677> _NiC: can I exclude a dir with find?
[08:20] <_NiC> Guest95677, yes, but I can't remember the exact syntax
[08:23] <Flannel> DND: try gobby (and sobby is the server if you want one, or you just pick one guy to host from gobby)
[08:23] <DND> well that's a unique name. (sob)by
[08:23] <Flannel> DND: It works on the internet.  It's not "cloud based", but that's a silly requirement to begin with.
[08:24] <fairuz> Guest95677: I think it's something like find thedir -not -name thediryouwanttoexclude ......
[08:24] <dr_Willis> leagris:  on my cell phone
[08:25] <DND> hmm we wanted to implement something like dropbox. i mean i will just mount a network drive to windows and upload
[08:25] <DND> we're talking about end-users here :D
[08:25] <DND> who complains everything tough :D
[08:25] <DND> *is tough
[08:26] <dr_Willis> isent there some gpl dripbox clone out?
[08:26] <DND> im checking out ifolder and owncloud
[08:26] <DND> but i havent seen something like locking a file while its being edited
[08:27] <dr_Willis> google has somthing like thst. dont they
[08:28] <Brett6781_phone> anyone have a clue as to how to install 10.10 on a PS3?
[08:28] <yuike> hmm
[08:28] <Brett6781_phone> been looking through tons of guides for the PPC distros
[08:29] <Brett6781_phone> since the PS3 is running a PPC processor
[08:29] <yuike> if i have a screen session on my mac, then i ssh and have another screen session, how do i detach from the screen session within the ssh session, and not the one on my mac?
[08:29] <OerHeks> !ppc
[08:30] <yuike> i am sshing into ubuntu btw, but maybe this is a osx question
[08:30] <Brett6781_phone> yeah, saw that...
[08:31] <OerHeks> Brett6781_phone, this will work if you have the old bios > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PlayStation_3
[08:31] <Brett6781_phone> someone convered merkat though to work on PPC
[08:31] <Brett6781_phone> thanks, now just to get aroung sony's BS blocks
[08:32] <Brett6781_phone> looks like I'm gonna have another fun night of BIOS modding... uggggg
[08:32] <OerHeks> Brett6781_phone, 10.10 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/10.10/release/
[08:33] <Brett6781_phone> thanks!
[08:33] <OerHeks> this is all i have
[08:35] <Starminn> Banshee will not open. I have tried purging it and reinstalling, but it continually gives me this error: http://pastie.org/2122608 while launching it from terminal gives me this: http://pastie.org/2122611
[08:37] <pankaj_sharma> Starminn, whats the error?
[08:37] <dr_Willis> removeing stuff via apt does Not remove user settingd. try making a new user see if the apt works fir them
[08:38] <dr_Willis> if it does work. clean out the problem user settings.
[08:39] <danslo1> dr_Willis: use apt-get remove --purge package, instead of just remove
[08:40] <danslo1> dr_Willis: oh. you were responding
[08:40] <danslo1> nevermind me :)
[08:40] <dr_Willis> danslo1:  that will not remove USER settings in /home/
[08:40] <Starminn> pankaj_sharma: IT's in the link..
[08:40] <dr_Willis> heh
[08:41] <danslo1> dr_Willis: yeah, I've always wondered how you properly keep your home folder clean... I always check the files manually and delete if necessary
[08:41] <Starminn> danslo1: By the way, sudo apt-get purge is the same as sudo apt-get remove --purge (to my understanding, anyway) so less typing
[08:41] <dr_Willis> its a complex problem
[08:42] <danslo1> same goes for installing packages from source, there isn't really a way to remove everything properly unless you still have makefile and it has proper uninstall rule
[08:42] <danslo1> it's an annoying problem imo :)
[08:42] <Duck_> So... I'm going to be traveling with my new ubuntu netbook. Is there anything you would recommend to do for protection on open wireless networks?
[08:42] <dr_Willis> my android phone is cluttered also
[08:42] <danslo1> Duck_: don't do anything that you dont want public :)
[08:43] <Duck_> Should I setup a firewall or something?
[08:44] <dr_Willis> if you want
[08:44] <danslo1> Duck_: I wouldn't be too worried about your netbook being infiltrated... more worried about people sniffing your network traffic ;)
[08:45] <sandGorgon> Duck_, make sure your Facebook and Twitter accounts (amongst others) have HTTPS enabled
[08:46] <Botnet> hi all
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> danslo1: bleachbit is good :)
[08:52] <Razor11> excuse me guys.. i would like to ask a question..
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> Razor11: ask away :)
[08:52] <Razor11> is ubuntu and kubuntu the same?
[08:53] <gener1c> hey , i got a protege 835 with ubuntu 64bit 6.390generic kernel
[08:53] <gener1c> i upgraded to this kernel from 6.38
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> Razor11: under the hood, yes. They are the same OS with different DE and default applications
[08:53] <gener1c> because the notebook kept on freezing
[08:53] <Razor11> so which one do you prefer?
[08:53] <gener1c> but it still does after the update
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> Razor11: lxde here
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: ask in #ubutu+1 if you are using the 39 kernel, that is the oneiric branch
[08:54] <Razor11> how about julinux? is it an ubuntu os??
[08:54] <gener1c> yeah i wanted to ask what that branch was
[08:55] <gener1c> what does this oneiric mean
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> Razor11: its yet another spinoff and is not supported in any of the official ways the official canonical releases are
[08:55] <gener1c> it has the same kernel versions
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: its the codename of 11.10
[08:55] <gener1c> oh
[08:55] <gener1c> anyways ActionParsnip i was using natty 64bit
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: i'd test your RAM
[08:55] <gener1c> upgraded kernel because there was a post about it fixing my issue
[08:55] <gener1c> but it didnt
[08:56] <chat_xwj> excuse,how can i list the channels according a command?thank you
[08:56] <gener1c> ActionParsnip: thanks, plus the fan goes crazy if it helps
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> Razor11: there are tonnes of spinoff OSes based on Ubuntu  which are equally not supported here
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: maybe there is a bug with ACPI with your system, I'd check for bugs too
[08:57] <gener1c> how would i go about doing that?
[08:58] <only> :'( tutorial install nessus in ubuntu 10.10
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: websearch
[09:01] <gener1c> well when using a livecd to check my ram all is ok
[09:01] <gener1c> but when i use the test that came with ubuntu it freezes
[09:01] <gener1c> and the fan goes crazy
[09:02] <gener1c> :P
[09:02] <MagePsycho> guys how to search for files with word: function __()
[09:02] <default_> Всем привет
[09:03] <default_> У меня есть папа, который любит порносайты и я хочу ему поставить ubunutu, чтобы вирусы не хватал, подскажитье нормальную убунту для хомячков
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> MagePsycho: you can use grep, or one of the GUI apps
[09:03] <Xylane> O.o I'm just here because I can't sleep o.o
[09:03]  * Xylane counts sheep
[09:04] <MagePsycho> yes grep but whts the full command.. since i am very new to ubuntu commands
[09:04] <default_> sorry
[09:05] <Xylane> Is there a channel on freenode for insomniacs or something o.o?
[09:05] <fairuz> MagePsycho: find -type f -print0 | xargs -r0 grep -F 'yoursearchstring here'
[09:05] <Starminn> Xylane: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:05] <Xylane> Sorry
[09:05] <Starminn> Xylane: No, I mean you should go there. :)
[09:05] <Xylane> Oh, ty
[09:06]  * Xylane bows to Starminn
[09:07] <MagePsycho> thanks fairuz
[09:07] <MagePsycho> let me try
[09:09] <MagePsycho> fairuz how to ignore .svn file during search?
[09:09] <fairuz> -not -name '.svn'
[09:09] <fairuz> I think so ^^
[09:14] <MagePsycho> thanks i will try
[09:15] <MagePsycho> "find: invalid argument `-not' to `-type'"
[09:15] <MagePsycho> error
[09:15] <MagePsycho> not working fairuz
[09:16] <fairuz> what's your command
[09:16] <fairuz> f is couple with -type you know...
[09:16] <fairuz> *coupled
[09:16] <dodino> hi all
[09:18] <fairuz> MagePsycho: find -not -name '.svn' -type f -print0 | xargs -r0 grep -F 'searchstring'
[09:19] <Starminn> Grep only searches the contents of files (or a string), and not files themselves, correct? File names are what find is for, yes?
[09:21] <fairuz> Starminn: afaik, yes...
[09:24]  * brogger http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvkyX1Kp5YA
[09:27] <gener1c> when i run the ubuntu memtest from the harddrive the laptop freezes and when i run it from another linux livecd it runs smooth
[09:28] <gener1c> ah and the fan goes crazy
[09:30] <gener1c> this is a brand new toshiba r835 its hard for me to belive its hardware related
[09:31] <stefan_> Hello! May I use an Xfce Applet in Gnome?
[09:31] <stefan_> And if yes, how can I do?
[09:33] <xrfang> hello, I need to learn the structure of a deb package and process to build it, is the debian policy manual a good document for this?
[09:34] <gjm_> blah
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> xrfang: i'd say so, also look into checkinstall
[09:35] <kat32> hello
[09:35] <xrfang> ActionParsnip, thanks. I need detail about the package format, not introduction about debian archives, I do see some relevant chapters in the policy manual, hope it is *detailed* enough
[09:36] <ledjo> acicula morning!
[09:37] <ledjo> :)
[09:37] <oxyzen> xrfang: i'd say take a look at the other packages as well
[09:37] <windparadise> is there a way to decode a mobile phone using ubuntu?
[09:37] <xrfang> oxyzen, what other packages? you mean "checkinstall"?
[09:37] <oxyzen> oxyzen: rpm and others
[09:37] <oxyzen> haha, xrfang
[09:38] <xrfang> oxyzen, hehe.
[09:38] <xrfang> that would be too much, but I do want to learn the basics, tools like dh_make are not what I need at this moment
[09:39] <windparadise> any suggestion?
[09:39] <kat32> can someone help me connect to the internet wirelessly? only wired connection is recognized
[09:40] <xrfang> kat32, that could be a complex process if it is not done automatically ;)
[09:41] <gener1c> ok i googled it and the solutions in the forums didnt help, my comp freezes on memtest from harddrive and the fan goes crazy (the ubuntu memtest choice on bootup) but when i run the memtest from my old archlinux livecd it works like a charm
[09:41] <kat32> mmm really? that is :(
[09:41] <ledjo> a question: I installed samba and I can see both windows and xubuntu comp on either one of the comps, but I don't see shared folders...
[09:41] <gener1c> anyone has an idea what could cause that?
[09:41] <xrfang> kat32, well, it depends.
[09:41] <xrfang> kat32, do you know what is the chipset of your wireless card
[09:42] <kat32> i dont
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> kat32: sudo lshw -C network    will show the wireless chip and you can use it to find uides
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> *guides
[09:42] <ledjo> kat32 I know
[09:42] <ledjo> 1: install ndiswrapper
[09:43] <gener1c> ActionParsnip: memtest gives good results only when ran from livecd , when ran from grub it immidiatly freezes the notebook and the fan goes nuts
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: failing memtest isn't good dude
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: i suggest you power off and remove a stick of ram, then retest
[09:44] <gener1c> ActionParsnip: it doesnt fail thats the point
[09:44] <Thorn> hello. I'm trying to install 11.04 on an asus P5N-MX mobo (nforce 610i) but get an error right when cd boots (a pseudographics table that says err=8). cd works fine on other  systems. any ideas?
[09:44] <ledjo> kat32 this is if u cant find drivers from your wlan card for linux u can then use windows drivers
[09:44] <gener1c> when i run it from livecd it gives perfect results AcidRain
[09:45] <gener1c> when i run it from livecd it gives perfect results
[09:45] <kat32> xrfang how can i find this?
[09:46] <gener1c> ok im gone
[09:46] <xrfang>  kat32: as ActionParsnip said, sudo lshw -C network    will show the wireless chip and you can use it to find uides
[09:46] <xrfang>  *guides
[09:47] <Thorn> any alternate booting method that I can use?
[09:47] <kat32> there is alot of informaton with this command
[09:47] <ledjo> but if its older wlan card like mine, I couldn't find linux drivers
[09:47] <xrfang> kat32, what kind of computer it is? desktop or laptop? brand and model?
[09:48] <kat32> dell laptop
[09:48] <ledjo> kat32 do u have windows drivers for the wlan card?
[09:48] <xrfang> kat32, that could be simpler, just search for linux driver for this model
[09:49] <kat32> ledjo i think so. windows are broken and i m using ubuntu
[09:50] <kat32> xrfang any sugestions? :)
[09:50] <xrfang> kat32, there are a couple of ways to get your wireless working. you just follow one of them
[09:50] <Somelauw> What is the thing called that pops up when saving a file?
[09:50] <xrfang> I suggest you either try ndiswrapper, or try goole your model
[09:51] <ledjo> install 1.ndiswrapper then then 2.ndisgtk the go to applications -> system -> windows wirelles driver and add inf. file from your windows driver folder
[09:51] <xrfang> kat32, there are already suggestions given ;)
[09:52] <ledjo> * .inf
[09:53] <TrevInc> can someone assist me with accessing a Windows Share from Ubuntu?
[09:53] <kat32> i need both ndiswrapper and ndisgtk?
[09:54] <ledjo> so 1. ndiwrapper , 2. ndisgtk and 3. go to applications - sys - windows wireless lan (the last 1) and add a windows driver (.inf)
[09:55] <Somelauw> Can I change the dialog that pops up when saving a file from openoffice?
[09:55] <ledjo> u have to download ndiwrapper, ndisgtk and windows driver of your wlan..
[09:55] <Milossh> I'm looking at the gnome-look.org, and I was wondering if GTK+3 are the right themes for me, for ubuntu 11.04
[09:56] <adi_> anyone der ?
[09:57] <adi_> does the system gets destabilized if I remove all files in /var/log/ directory ?
[09:57] <jatt> yes
[09:58] <jatt> why remove? there is logrotate.
[09:58] <adi_> @jatt are you sure I'm desperate to remove lol
[09:58] <ledjo> so what about my problem: I can't see folder I shared on my windows pc nor other way around..
[10:00] <ledjo> I can see both computers on either of the networks but when I click xubuntu in windows it just emty and when I click windows pc in xubuntu it can't access it...
[10:00] <adi_> no jatt I just wanted to see all the new log after a fresh boot up. so I want to remove everything and I can see new log
[10:00] <jatt> Not sure really :), but it can be a program chokes because it cannot write to a file that was in /var/log
[10:01] <ledjo> kat32 any luck?
[10:02] <adi_> @ledjo is samba installed properly did you try ubuntu to ubuntu via samba
[10:03] <ledjo> yeah I installed it like everything else, I only have 1 notebook with ubuntu insatlled on it
[10:04] <adi_> @jatt any program just appends new log to the old file. if the file isn't present it just creates a new one and appends to it rite ?
[10:05] <ledjo> the desktop pc has 7 on it
[10:05] <ledjo> I can see comps in network but not access them
[10:06] <adi_> ok how are you trying to open the shared folder in win 7
[10:06] <adi_> try opening the drive through "run"
[10:06] <ledjo> I can't cause I can't access the ubuntu pc in network
[10:07] <ledjo> only in 7 when I click on ubuntu comp it opens but it's empty
[10:07] <kat32> ledjo, no luck yet. i ve installed drives then you mean network>windows network?
[10:07] <varunthacker> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10985005#post10985005 -- any comments on how to solve this problem
[10:08] <ledjo> did u install ndiswrapper and then ndisgtk?
[10:08] <ledjo> kat
[10:08] <kat32> y
[10:08] <adi_> ledjo if you no ubuntu pc's IP try running this command on RUN "//IPadrress/folderlocation/"
[10:09] <ledjo> applications menu - sysytem - windows wireless lan?
[10:09] <adi_> *know
[10:09] <ledjo> u opened it
[10:09] <sudipta> is Dictionary not installed in natty by default?
[10:09] <ledjo> windows wireless driver I mean
[10:10] <sudipta> if  not then how to install is
[10:10] <sudipta> *it?
[10:10] <kat32> cant find it
[10:11] <Sterist> how do i change my password?
[10:11] <adi_> @sudipta its already installed in it
[10:11] <siton> # passwd yourname
[10:11] <sudipta> adi_:where?
[10:11] <Sterist> siton not IRC lol ubuntu
[10:12] <adi_> @sudipta just enter windows key and enter dictonary
[10:12] <ledjo> but if u installed ndiswrapper and then ndigtk, after u install ndisgtk u get this entry in applications menu -> system
[10:12] <sudipta> adi_:i have....no result
[10:12] <ledjo> u sure u installed them both properly?
[10:13] <Squarism> How does dpkg relate to aptitude really.. i can use both for installation but how do they differ and do they interact?
[10:13] <Sterist> how do i change my password?
[10:13] <KM0201> !password
[10:13] <kat32> Γίνεται εγκατάσταση ndiswrapper-common (1.53-2ubuntu1) ...
[10:13] <kat32> Γίνεται εγκατάσταση ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 (1.53-2ubuntu1) ...
[10:13] <kat32> Γίνεται εγκατάσταση ndisgtk (0.8.4-1) ...
[10:13] <ledjo> ndisgt is windows wireless driver, if u don't see it in menu it means u didn't install it
[10:13] <adi_> @sudipta try gnome-dictionary in terminal
[10:14] <sudipta> adi_:still...nothing
[10:15] <adi_> @sudipta lol then try installing it "sudo apt-get install gnome-dictionary"
[10:15] <adi_> @sudipta else try dictionary keyword in synaptic
[10:16] <ledjo> I used that for this laptop and I'm on internet right now, kat
[10:17] <kat32> ok ty guys, i'll try again
[10:19] <sudipta> Adi_:ok...i've got it...thnx
[10:19] <adi_> sudipta: cool
[10:20] <sudipta> adi: :)
[10:20] <ledjo> the problem with ubuntu or other distros is that u have to do a serious of sometimes very complicated or annoying operations just to get simple things like to connect to internet or to connect 2 computers in a network or some things that u do just like that in ex. XP..
[10:21] <ranjan> can anyone help me in getting my mails to inbox of reciepients instead of spambox
[10:22] <ledjo> now for some computer freaks it can be interesting or challenging but for me it is really annoying..
[10:22] <dimas_> i am experiencing some problems after restart the computer because a application wasnt responding...but from that moment i can not open the application because it says that one of his components is already running...-what should i do?
by any chance u happened to live in kolkata,jadavpur?
[10:22] <velofille> ledjo, cant say i have ever had any major problems with that
[10:23] <KrUpTiOn> Hello.. I'm kinda new here. I have a question/problem.  I am running Unbuntu and Windows 7, dual boot on a netbook. After I installed Unbuntu, the boot loader/menu's option to boot into Windows won't work.  Can someone msg me to give me a little help please?
[10:25] <adi_> @dimas_ so start it again
[10:25] <dimas_> cause i already reinstall the application from diferent sourse and still having the problem
why...now u aint?
[10:26] <ledjo> I have problems all the time, with samba, then for example I connected psp for the 1 time, I copied files from there I needed for wlan etc, I unmounted and when I connected it again it didn't show on desktop anymore so I found it in /media but I couldn't access it anymore unless I do it as root
[10:26] <ranjan> sudipta, i dont like unity
unity needs lots of polishing though,I feel
[10:26] <dimas_> adi oke i will try that
[10:26] <ledjo> so I did and then starting from today I can't see it any more even as root
[10:26] <adi_> @dimas_ I didn't get ur problem
perhaps the developers might do smthng abt it
[10:27] <ranjan> sudipta, i wonder why ubuntu didnt work with gnome3
[10:27] <adi_> @ranjan I don't like unity too
[10:27] <ranjan> sudipta, afterall both unity and gnome3 looks similar
[10:27] <ranjan> adi_, yea
[10:27] <adi_> @ranjan I missing gconf-tools
wait till october.11.10 will support gnome3
[10:27] <ledjo> then there is a screen saver problem, after ca. 5 min when screen saver plays it freezes and I can only shut it down
[10:28] <Somelauw> Can I replace the file open/save dialog to something better?
[10:28] <Somelauw> Maybe by not using gtk?
[10:28] <dimas_> adi should i restart the computer before i try again?
[10:28] <ledjo> then this samba issues, I mean every day u get another new issue..
[10:29] <adi_> @dimas_ no need.  Im running ssh on android though :b
[10:46] <Sterist> how do i install a file in a .tar.gz ?
[10:47] <rahin88> @Sterist first extract the archive
[10:47] <ikonia> Sterist: what do you want to install ?
[10:47] <ledjo> sterist what what what?
[10:47] <Sterist> lol
[10:47] <ledjo> :)
[10:48] <rhin0> sterrist to install that you type gunzip filename.gz then tar -ivh filename.tar (after typing the gunzip you will see the tar file)
[10:48] <rhin0> then you will be left with a .configure file within the directory
[10:48] <rhin0> run that
[10:48] <ikonia> rhin0: slow down - taking the defaults of a configure script is not always a good idea
[10:48] <rhin0> afther configure maybe make
[10:48] <ikonia> Sterist: what is it you want to install
[10:49] <rhin0> well -- sterist always read the README file that you'll see in the extracted directory first
[10:49] <rhin0> or INSTALL file
[10:49] <Sterist> ikonia bitcoin
[10:49] <KrUpTiOn> I'm having trouble with my boot loader, I have Unbuntu 10.4 and Windows 7, Can't boot into windows. Can someone msg me to give me a little help please?
[10:49] <zhangquan> nihao
[10:49] <Sterist> rhin0 readme isn't always in english lol
[10:49] <rhin0> does bitcoin give you free money?  Oo
[10:50] <appi_uppi> hi, I'm using ubuntu 10.04. Please help in providing the command to delete the contents in pendrive from terminal
[10:50] <appi_uppi> ?
[10:50] <rhin0> i just thought it must as it was created out of nothing
[10:50] <ikonia> appi_uppi: where is it mounted ?
[10:50] <velofille> KrUpTiOn, im not seeing the problem with that :D
[10:50] <rvsjoen> whats the proper way of executing "xrdb --merge ~/.Xdefaults" on startup, .bashrc, .xinitrc, .bash_profile and the likes do not seem to work
[10:50] <rhin0> appi_uppi: you can format a pen-drive using a program called 'gparted' install that
[10:50] <velofille> KrUpTiOn, you should get a menu when you start the computer offering linux or windows, windows will be at the bottom of the list
[10:50] <KrUpTiOn> velofille:> If I could figure out how to use my sprint mobile account in unbuntu I wouldn't even use windows... :(
[10:50] <ikonia> Sterist: the readme is in English, as is the INSTALL files, there is also the channel #bitcoin on this network for help
[10:51] <rhin0> otherwise its just another volume appi_uppi
[10:51] <KrUpTiOn> The problem is, after I  installed unbuntu, when I click on the Windows 7 option, it won't boot into windows..
[10:51] <jiltdil> i had unchecked the volume option and there is no volume showing on screen i want to take it back but i forgot where is the option for it please help
[10:51] <velofille> KrUpTiOn, sorry i cant help, im heading to bed. Google though should be able to solve the sprint mobile thing as well as the grub
[10:51] <rhin0> do you see any messages KrUpTiOn ie.  does it try to boot into windows
[10:52] <velofille> KrUpTiOn, ahh, maybe its got the wrong partition setup  in menu.lst (check /etc/grub ?)
[10:52] <KrUpTiOn> I called sprint, they said they 'don't support' anything but Windows on their netbooks.. stupid...
[10:52] <rhin0> it won't be grub if it shows windows messages (trying to start windows) it'll be a problem with windows
[10:52] <rhin0> if windows is on the grub menu as you say
[10:52] <velofille> KrUpTiOn, its probably just drivers then initiating ppp or similar
[10:52] <KrUpTiOn> Yea, it gives me a error message then goes back to the bootloader menu
[10:52] <jiltdil> oh  i got it.
[10:52] <velofille> what error message?
[10:53] <rhin0> KrUpTiOn: the windows directory structure (volume) will be viewable (mounted) in ubuntu so you will still see your files
[10:53] <velofille> rhin0, not sure thats gonna help him boot it though
[10:53] <rhin0> well it reassures him that his files are still intact
[10:53] <velofille> true, i suppose you could always make it a VM
[10:53] <KrUpTiOn> Yea, I can use the windows partition fine, but the the loader won't boot to windows.. let me try it again, so I can get the EXACT error code it gives me
[10:53] <rhin0> and he could even then get away from using a dual boot and setting up windows running within ubuntu
[10:54] <KrUpTiOn> I'll be right back...
[10:54] <velofille> im heading to bed
[10:54] <velofille> its lateish here
[10:54] <rhin0> its a windows fault KrUpTiOn
[10:54] <velofille> sorry i could not be of help
[10:54] <velofille> rhin0, lol
[10:54] <KrUpTiOn> Yea, I hate windows.. if Sprint would give me my username and password for the mobile broadband, I wouldn't even use windows...
[10:54] <rhin0> ubuntu may be powerful but it can't fix windows
[10:55] <KrUpTiOn> brb...  rebooting to get the exact error...
[10:55] <ledjo> but what about samba, what files should I install apart from main one?
[10:56] <Fudge> hi anyone here using hamachi ?
[10:56] <ledjo> there are 12 of them in synaptic
[10:56] <izgoi> Привет всем!
[10:56] <izgoi> я так понел тут не одного Русского?
[10:57] <rhin0> niet izgoi
[10:57] <acicula>  ledje just installing samba will pull in anything you need
[10:57]  * Siton is away: 我很忙
[10:57] <izgoi> весело будет =)
[10:57] <shomon> hi, I was editing a text file and now it's gone all wierd. How do I find out what character set it's in, and convert it to something like utf8 again?
[10:57] <shomon> in gedit, sorry
[10:58] <ledjo> but I did that and I can't share folder properly and I can't access windows pc folder I shared
[10:58] <izgoi> Рино
[10:59] <ledjo> in ubuntu I can't set permission properly
[10:59] <shomon> !ru
[10:59] <rahin88> any suggestions for irc clients on ubuntu
[10:59] <shomon> xchat
[10:59] <izgoi> Знаю
[10:59] <shomon> chatzilla...
[10:59] <appi_uppi> rhin0, yes i have downloaded and using it now
[10:59]  * Siton is back (gone 00:02:19)
[11:00] <rhin0> will enable you to completely blank the drive appi_uppi click on the right hand drop down menu to select drive then select format from one of the menus
[11:00] <b26> morning ya'll.. can anyone recommend a good random wallpaper changer?
[11:00] <izgoi> I know it is simple with you cheerfully =)
[11:00] <b26> ie: change wallpaper from 'x' dir every 'y' mins?
[11:00] <appi_uppi> rhin0, sure, thanks a lot :-)
[11:01] <izgoi> In current turnips this chat was has solved попробывать that it for an animal
[11:01]  * Siton is away: 我很忙
[11:01] <shomon> hi, how do you find out a file's character set inubuntu?
[11:02]  * Siton is back (gone 00:00:12)
[11:02] <appi_uppi> rhin0, it says unable to find the mount point
[11:02] <rhin0> does it show the drive should be dev/sdb something
[11:02] <appi_uppi> yes
[11:02] <rhin0> you will be able to see what drive it is by the size
[11:02] <rhin0> so it looks like your drive isn't mounting?
[11:03] <appi_uppi> yes
[11:03] <appi_uppi> i can see the size
[11:03] <keithb> shomon: what about the command file filename
[11:03] <izgoi> All while
[11:03] <rhin0> have you been able to use it from the system before -- if you just need to delete the files you should be able to just delete them through nautilus (file manager)
[11:03] <shomon> file just says "html text" or something - nothing about the charset keithb
[11:03] <appi_uppi> no i 'm able to delete the file
[11:03] <shomon> "HTML document text"
[11:04] <x3__iVaN> hi all
[11:04] <shomon> and I just got enca, which says Unrecognized encoding
[11:04] <rhin0> shomon i've just googled to see and there is a command        enca -- detect and convert encoding of text files
[11:04] <rhin0> maybe its corrupt
[11:04] <shomon> ah, but for the file that isn't showing up, it says "UTF8" - I want to make it unrecognised again :)
[11:05] <appi_uppi> rhin0, pendrive is corrupted?
[11:05] <rhin0> appi
[11:05] <shomon> no, I cut and pasted an accent into it and it shows up all wierd in my web browser
[11:05] <appi_uppi> yes
[11:05] <shomon> so yeah corrupted by accents
[11:06] <rhin0> can you see the files on it -- you are unable to delete it?  -- gparted I have always used to format -- also there is an 'erase drive' facility in the command 'usb-creator-gtk' (used for writing iso disk imiages to the pen drive -- but the erase command may work if the gparted format doesn't work)
[11:06] <ledjo> exit
[11:06] <rhin0> appi_uppi:
[11:06] <ledjo> :)
[11:06] <appi_uppi> yes rhin0
[11:06] <rhin0> if you can see the files you can delete them appi_uppi
[11:07] <rhin0> no need to format it
[11:07] <rhin0> appi_uppi: was taling to shomon about corrupted stuff - not you
[11:07] <keithb> shomon: try editing with vi and removing the accented characters
[11:07] <appi_uppi> rhin0, I am not able to delete one particular folder it's like SVN2.0
[11:07] <rhin0> shomon you've corrupted your file its not a case of unrecognised encoding -- you need to repair it
[11:07] <appi_uppi> rhin0, :)
[11:08] <shomon> :) no... there are soo many... there were some already in the document, and I just cut and pasted something in...
[11:08] <shomon> okay.
[11:08] <shomon> thanks rhin0 will see...
[11:08] <rhin0> appi_uppi -- mount it from the command line (not completely sure how) -- change the permissions on the folder and zap  it
[11:08] <shomon> aah I think it was a microsoft character, sneaking in
[11:08] <rhin0> probably you can change permissions through gui also -- not sure -- but the folders permissions are stopping you from erasing it
[11:09] <KrUpTiOn> ok....  I have the error my bootloader gives me when trying to boot into windows...
[11:09] <shomon> when I copied in the phrase with the offending character, gedit asked me "I can't save in this format" and gave me a choice. I chose utf8... But maybe I should choose western european or some other one...
[11:09] <rhin0> is it the bootloader giving you the error or windows error
[11:09] <keithb> shomon: .$s/<charctercode>//g will get rid of all of one type of character
[11:10] <shomon> it's a 15 page data document :S
[11:10] <rhin0> shomon you've completely corrupted the file now if you've completely changed the encoding -- when you saved it as utf8 you obliterated whatever format it was in ...
[11:10] <shomon> aaj
[11:10] <keithb> ouch
[11:10] <rhin0> its been saved as a completely different file type shomon
[11:10] <shomon> aah... and enca or others can't convert it back then
[11:11] <KrUpTiOn> it says: try (0,0) fat16 no wublidr (line 2) try (0,1) NTFS5 no WUBILDR (line 3) try (0,2) NTFS5 error prefix not set
[11:11] <shomon> hmm, gedit should offer to save as something else when that happens :/
[11:12] <keithb> shomon: it can't as the character does not have an equivalent in non-UTF-8
[11:12] <KrUpTiOn> Does anybody know what this error means when trying to  boot into Windows 7 from the bootloader:
[11:12] <KrUpTiOn> Does anybody know what this error means when trying to  boot into Windows 7 from the bootloader:
[11:12] <shomon> I've replaced it now.. it was only a line of text so it was an m$ hyphen I think
[11:12] <KrUpTiOn> it says: try (0,0) fat16 no wublidr (line 2) try (0,1) NTFS5 no WUBILDR (line 3) try (0,2) NTFS5 error prefix not set
[11:13] <rhin0> kruption -- there is stuff on ubuntu forums relating to that -- I would think that it may be a corrupted volume if you're selecting the grub option from straight boot (as you must be)  -- corrupted in some way -- ask someone else -- no idea really
[11:14] <KrUpTiOn> Something else I did. when I installed Unbuntu, Windows 7 turned it's bootloader on, it had windows 7 and unbuntu listed. figured I didn't need both boot loaders, so I disabled the windows one. which was stupid of me, without figuring out which one would work...
[11:14] <raven> any tool to manage sms with huawai internet device?
[11:15] <rhin0> sounds like you need to configure grub to boot windows KrUpTiOn
[11:15] <rhin0> grub is very configurable
[11:15] <Luxe> Finished my computer - http://i.imgur.com/3rMbN.jpg
[11:15] <TrevInc> nice fractal background.
[11:15] <rhin0> that sounds more hopeful KrUpTiOn -- your copy of windows will still be intact -- grub just doesn't know what it is (& how to boot it)
[11:15] <KrUpTiOn> Yea, I dunno how to do that though. I know the /dev my windows 7 partition is on but not really sure how to do that
[11:16] <Luxe> Thanks TrevInc
[11:16] <Luxe> Fractals <3
[11:16] <KrUpTiOn> exactly! :) not sure how to tell grub how to boot into windows...
[11:16] <rhin0> you need to research grub -- see what your current settings are for the entry for windows that you see on the grub menu and check that they are the same as what the manual says they should be for booting your particular copy of windows
[11:16] <rhin0> grub is relatively simple to set up -- just a control file
[11:17] <xskydevilx> I'm getting an error message when trying to run add-apt-repository: http://paste.ubuntu.com/633545/
[11:17] <Cube``> test
[11:17] <KrUpTiOn> k..  I know how to use lilo.. I haven't used linux in about 3 years, out of touch.. I tried playin with the grub config, but no luck. guess I'll hafta research more...
[11:17] <shomon> rhin0 and keithb - I just fixed it without converting! I just had to change the charset in the meta tag in the html document...
[11:17] <Luxe> TrevInc, I'm kinda mystified you knew that was a fractal.
[11:18] <keithb> shomon: brilliant, congrats
[11:18] <TrevInc> Luxe: I've had to take a lot of math for biomedical engineering, you stumble upon these things
[11:18] <rhin0> excellent shomon -- this will teach you to make more backups just in case and not just save in a format thinking its just s save -- it actually re-formats
[11:18] <Luxe> I didn't do this in math.
[11:18] <Luxe> :3
[11:18] <shomon> :) thanks keithb - yeah it's a pretty dangerous option there rhin0
[11:18] <KrUpTiOn> Thanks for all your help! Much appreciated!
[11:20] <sunn_er> hello!
[11:20] <rhin0> hi sunn_er
[11:20] <TrevInc> Hmm... Ocala should be really nice this time of year
[11:22] <rahin88> guys I have a specific problem with my microsd card
[11:22] <rahin88> i can't format it
[11:22] <elky> is there a way to change the order of stuff in the unity dock?
[11:23] <movan2011> @elky:  I think you can move the icons that aren't grey.
[11:23] <elky> movan2011, how? i click and drag and the whole toolbar moves.
[11:24] <elky> ooh, i click and hold.
[11:24] <movan2011> @elky:  Right
[11:26] <elky> kind of a shame i can't reorganise the grey ones though
[11:27] <dkkd> what reserve space do i give for the dialog box in first screenshot here? in MB http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[11:27] <jpds> dkkd: Whatever, you don't even need it.
[11:28] <dkkd> jpds: thanks
[11:28] <xskydevilx> Could anyone help, here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/633545/
[11:29] <acicula> xskydevilx: when did it still work?
[11:29] <rhin0> xskydevilx: "could not find a " aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a distribution template" <-- whatever you are trying to install isn't there i think
[11:29] <rhin0> maybe you can install whatever you are trying to install some other way than using apt
[11:30] <rhin0> even as far as building (compiling it) which is actually safer
[11:30] <xskydevilx> rhin0, I was trying Chromium Daily builds
[11:30] <rhin0> I generally just install chrome through firefox no idea ... daily builds?  you want the latest latest chrome right?
[11:31] <xskydevilx> rhin0, Yes.
[11:31] <frenzz> Hello, Hello, how create 'mysql' user in the machine ?
[11:31] <rhin0> I think it's best you get the package file of whatever type (deb, rpm) onto your system and examine it
[11:31] <rhin0> frenzz sudo adduser mysql
[11:32] <acicula> xskydevilx: does apt-get still work?
[11:32] <xskydevilx> acicula, Yes.
[11:32] <xskydevilx> acicula, I'm using Lucid, btw.
[11:32] <acicula> xskydevilx: what command do you use that gives you this error?
[11:32] <xskydevilx> acicula, add-apt-repository
[11:32] <acicula> rhin0: installing stuff from source almost never makes it better wrt fixing problems
[11:32] <pappijo> Hey, can you tell me what is the purpose of the class IndicatorServiceManager in Unity2d?
[11:33] <acicula> xskydevilx: try adding a different repository perhaps?
[11:33] <acicula> xskydevilx: maybe it does not have a lucid repository?
[11:33] <xskydevilx> acicula, I doubt it.
[11:34] <Herpine_> asd
[11:34] <xskydevilx> acicula, Let me try ubuntu-tweak PPA
[11:34] <sayz>  /msg NickServ identify
[11:34] <xskydevilx> acicula, Same thing
[11:35] <acicula> xskydevilx: maybe this can provide some help https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/364092
[11:36] <pappijo> Hey, can you tell me what is the purpose of the class IndicatorServiceManager in Unity2d?
[11:36] <acicula> post 6 and 7
[11:37] <_eXeCuTeR> do i need to stay online on internet in order to install ubuntu or it's not neccesary?
[11:37] <jpds> _eXeCuTeR: Not necessary.
[11:37] <acicula> _eXeCuTeR: its not required, you can install updates afterwards if you want
[11:38] <acicula> _eXeCuTeR: with a reasonably fast internet connection and disk id recommend being online though, as it will install all updates straight away
[11:38] <yugiohfan2011> I've just had Ubuntu run its fsck utility at startup, and I noticed that it ran relatively quickly compared to when I tell Windows Vista to run its CHKDSK utility. In fact, fsck appears to only take from 5 to 10 seconds to apparently check the entire file system. Now, I'm thinking that surely fsck can't check a whole file system that quickly, so I figure something must have gone wrong with fsck. Are my suspicions correct? Or is fs
[11:38] <_eXeCuTeR> ok, thanks
[11:38] <hateball> yugiohfan2011: ext4 fsck is fast
[11:38] <acicula> yugiohfan2011: ot checks the filesystems metainformation
[11:38] <TrevInc> yugiohfan2011: fsck just checks to make sure the file system is in order. by definition, it's not a full disk integrity scan
[11:39] <TrevInc> it just makes sure the file system isn't somehow messed up
[11:39] <yugiohfan2011> What would I need if I wanted a full disk integrity scan?
[11:39] <acicula> yugiohfan2011: you would need to set fsck to a full scan instead of just chcking the journal
[11:40] <yugiohfan2011> And that would, say, check the disk for bad sectors?
[11:40] <cobra-the-joker> hey guys ... will next ubuntu be on unity ?
[11:40] <mrceez> new to linux/ubuntu hw can i remove an installed program?
[11:40] <xskydevilx> cobra-the-joker, Yes.
[11:40] <acicula> yugiohfan2011: you need to pass -c to fsck
[11:40] <_eXeCuTeR> im trying to boot linux of my CD i just burned, and it's booting the window in which it writes: ubuntu and some dots..it lods for a long time, then goes to a terminal, tries to execute LOTS of commands and just stops booting..
[11:41] <acicula> yugiohfan2011: you can not run fsck on a mounted disk though
[11:41] <xskydevilx> acicula, I just went through the file "Ubuntu.info" and found out that every distro is listed there. Is that considered as normal?
[11:41] <_eXeCuTeR> what could be the problem? i booted linux with Nero, when choosing to burn CD image along with this iso image i downloaded
[11:41] <acicula> xskydevilx: i have no idea, ill have a look
[11:41] <xskydevilx> acicula, OK. I'll wait.
[11:42] <acicula> xskydevilx: for me it only lists my current distro
[11:42] <mrceez> new to linux/ubuntu hw can i remove an installed program?
[11:42] <xskydevilx> acicula, Can You copy/paste the file to ubuntu pastebin?
[11:42] <TrevInc> mrceez, how did you install it?
[11:42] <mrceez> i compiled it
[11:42] <acicula> xskydevilx: no use, i have a different distro
[11:42] <mrceez> libusb
[11:42] <mrceez> libusb 1.0
[11:43] <xskydevilx> acicula, I want to compare, not to copy
[11:43] <cobra-the-joker> mrceez: you just delete it .... there is no formal way to remove a compiled program
[11:43] <acicula> xskydevilx: actually i misread, it lists all distributions here as well
[11:43] <mrceez> but there was a newer version whith i also compiled afterwards
[11:43] <sweet_juliet> !it
[11:43] <yugiohfan2011> Interesting. I see Ubuntu is much more resilient than Windows after a disruptive shutdown.
[11:43] <xskydevilx> acicula, Really? That's werid.
[11:44] <bassel> hi
[11:44] <bassel> any buddy
[11:44] <acicula> xskydevilx: the file is part of the python-apt-common package
[11:44] <mrceez> i am trying to compile another program that uses libusb 1.08 as a dependancy
[11:44] <acicula> could try forcing a reinstall of that package, but not sure if your problem is even caused by that file
[11:44] <mrceez> but it only recognise the lib1.0 and not the 1.08
[11:44] <acicula> its just what came up when i googled your error
[11:45] <solayagim> hello people
[11:45] <xskydevilx> acicula, By the way, first off when I tried to run add-apt-repository it said command not found, then I installed "python-apt-properties" I belive and the problem started.
[11:45] <acicula> windows uses journalled filessytems too
[11:46] <rhin0> hi solayagim
[11:46] <acicula> xskydevilx: i see, idk you could just remove that package again and just add the repository by hand i guess?
[11:46] <xskydevilx> acicula, I could try. I doubt it'll work, though
[11:48] <khalidman> hello
[11:49] <z9> irc isnt dead... cool!
[11:49] <anakinCloudWalke> guys can some one tell me how i can iterate over a variable using shell script. That is if the variable has the follwing "some var some val" i wanna iterate over the words in the variable
[11:49] <khalidman> looking for some help guys
[11:50] <sattu94> khalidman: yes ?
[11:50] <anakinCloudWalke> sattu94: guys can some one tell me how i can iterate over a variable using shell script. That is if the variable has the follwing "some var some val" i wanna iterate over the words in the variable
[11:50] <acicula> anakinCloudWalke:  for i in $(ls); do echo "$i"; done;
[11:50] <khalidman> i used befor 11.04 but garfiphics did nto worked to me
[11:50] <khalidman> now i use ubuntu 10.04 and it works will
[11:51] <anakinCloudWalke> acicula: i wanna iterate over a single variable not over the output from ls
[11:51] <xskydevilx> Speaking of Ubuntu, I tried the Ubuntu 10.10 daily builds, and when trying to run them live, the GUI disappears and the "terminal" alike appears. Why is this happening, and what's the command to restart the GUI (or to resume it)=
[11:51] <xskydevilx> *Ubuntu 11.10
[11:51] <acicula> eh anakinCloudWalke it works similarly, check bash scripting, or awk
[11:51] <dkkd_> booted via unetbootin. i want to install it in another partition so i choosed advanced option. now when i click next it is showing some warning "root fs is not defind". how to choose dev/sda7(my preferred partition) here?
[11:51] <dkkd_> any help apprecxiatd
[11:51] <acicula> xskydevilx: its probably broken, also support for +1 in #ubuntu+1
[11:52] <xskydevilx> acicula, Awesome, thanks.
[11:52] <ikonia> dkkd_: you tell it where to put /
[11:52] <zombieSLAYER> i cant delete samba shares?
[11:52] <acicula> zombieSLAYER: you have a share on your computer you can not get rid of?
[11:52] <zombieSLAYER> yes
[11:52] <acicula> zombieSLAYER: how did you create the share?
[11:52] <DND> serv identify passw0rd
[11:53] <dkkd_> ikonia: yea i selected dev/sda7 ?
[11:53] <acicula> DND: best change your irc password now
[11:53] <DND> yes
[11:53] <DND> i know :)
[11:53] <zombieSLAYER> some from right clicking some from samba config gui
[11:53] <ikonia> dkkd_: how did you select that ?
[11:53] <acicula> DND you can use /connect to automaticaly ident
[11:53] <dohomi> hello
[11:54] <acicula> by using /connect irc.freenode.org yourpass yournick
[11:54] <dohomi> does anybody uses skype successfully on ubuntu 11.0???
[11:54] <Abhijit> dohomi, working here on lucid
[11:55] <dkkd_> ikonia: it gives a list of prepare partitions with change revert and delete buttons
[11:55] <acicula> zombieSLAYER: did you right click a directory in the filebrowser and select sharing? if so you can just untick the share option and click apply to disable the share
[11:55] <acicula> dohomi: i've used it before
[11:55] <DND> wheew
[11:55] <dohomi> sorry im very new with linux
[11:55] <DND> im using xchat on ubuntu
[11:55] <DND> :D
[11:55] <ikonia> dkkd_: yes, but that window doesn't normally allow you to set a file system to a partition
[11:55] <dohomi> and just try to switch from crap win7 to ubuntu
[11:55] <zombieSLAYER> okay i have to re-share it and then un share it and it goes away
[11:55] <dohomi> but skype is not working
[11:56] <Abhijit> dohomi, what is actually wrong?
[11:56] <acicula> zombieSLAYER: there is also a console based short hand, you can use net usershare {list/add/remove}
[11:56] <dohomi> it shows available all the time but the messages doesnt get send
[11:56] <dohomi> and for other users im offline
[11:56] <dohomi> im using ubuntu 11.04 with gnome desktop
[11:57] <dkkd_> ikonia: ok so where do you think i am going wrong? the use as option says do not use as partition.
[11:57] <dohomi> with unity i had less hassle
[11:57] <shogoot> hi people what is the command to find my devices? i cant play a dvd i got and i think it because th eplayer is directed to /devices/dvd ..... any thoughts?
[11:57] <zombieSLAYER> acicula thanks thats tits
[11:57] <ikonia> dkkd_: partition the disk, drop out of advanced mode and set the file systems up properly
[11:57] <acicula> shogoot: can you see the dvd in the filebrowser?
[11:57] <shogoot> acicula, yes
[11:57] <acicula> shogoot: can you see the files on the dvd?
[11:58] <D-F3NS> hi there, im using ubuntu 11.04 on a eee pc. Could anyone tell me how i can check if ACPI is working properly?
[11:58] <shogoot> acicula, yes
[11:58] <acicula> D-F3NS: if you press the power button does it shutdown?
[11:58] <acicula> D-F3NS: pres, dont hold
[11:58] <sayz> mrceez:
[11:58] <D-F3NS> acicula, it asks me i want to shutdown,reboot etc.
[11:58] <acicula> if it pops up the powerdown menu its working
[11:58] <sayz> from consol?
[11:58] <oetzi> hi guys I have two questions about unity interface
[11:59] <D-F3NS> "if i want..."
[11:59] <acicula> shogoot: did you install the dvd libraries?
[11:59] <acicula> !dvd
[11:59] <cafenet> hey guys i get my printer driver and installed it and even have samba installed but my printer only work fast on windows but in ubuntu i need to turn on and off my printer
[11:59] <oetzi> first how can i go to real fullscreen inside apps
[11:59] <oetzi> without this stupid unity panel on top
[12:00] <dohomi> @oetzi, switch back to classic desktop
[12:00] <dohomi> works without problems
[12:00] <dkkd_> ikonia: i am one step back now at -- prepare disk space. could i get some direction ?
[12:00] <dohomi> in unity the desktop freezes lot of times...
[12:00] <acicula> D-F3NS: if you close the lid will the laptop suspend or enter hibernate mode as well?
[12:00] <rhin0> dohomi when you log in -- click on the user and set the desktop as classic (no effects) for now -- obviously your graphics card can't handle unity/compiz
[12:00] <ikonia> dkkd_: in what way direction ?
[12:01] <rhin0> thats why your system is locking up
[12:01] <acicula> shogoot: usually its either missing dvd libraries, see the links from ubottu on dvd's, that are missing, or if your dvd player needs a regional code set, this is also explained in the playingdvd wikipage
[12:01] <D-F3NS> acicula, coze im wondering, can run the system for about 5+ hours. thats not rly much. also the FN+Space key wont work( slow down the cpu)
[12:01] <oetzi> @dohomi there are no freezes on my side only this panel is really anoying
[12:01] <shogoot> acicula, i installed the package... not helping
[12:01] <D-F3NS> acicula, yes it does when i close the lid.
[12:01] <acicula> shogoot: a good way to test is trying to copy the big files from the dvd to your harddrive, it probably is not working now
[12:01] <dohomi> hi thin0: im using t410 lenovo and compiz with nvidia 3100
[12:01] <shogoot> acicula, tried taht, im just gonna reboot and se iff it helps
[12:01] <dkkd_> ikonia: i mean i want help
[12:01] <dohomi> so it actually should work
[12:01] <acicula> shogoot: did you set a region code?
[12:01] <ikonia> dkkd_: with what ?
[12:01] <dohomi> but it wasnt stable for me
[12:01] <dohomi> so i switched back
[12:02] <shogoot> acicula, yes
[12:02] <acicula> D-F3NS: then acpi seems to be working
[12:02] <acicula> shogoot: hmm can you try copying the big files from the dvd then?
[12:02] <acicula> shogoot: or just start copying the entire thing
[12:02] <acicula> (not all files are css secured)
[12:02] <oetzi> and I have another question which I'm not sure it is a unity issue
[12:02] <dohomi> but can somebody give me a hint how to use skype? its not working at all over the day
[12:03] <rhin0> dohomia I have had the same trouble with nvidia --- there are propietary hardware drivers fror nvidia (available from 'hardware drivers') on the menu -- there is also support for 3d facilities that unity desktop may use. they may improve the situation
[12:03] <wols_> D-F3NS: run powertop
[12:03] <rhin0> dohimi
[12:03] <dkkd_> ikonia: there are options like== instakk them side by side and -- advanced options. (on unetbootin hypermedia boot)
[12:03] <shogoot> acicula, copying is going fine.
[12:03] <ikonia> !skype > dohomi
[12:03] <wols_> D-F3NS: ceck your cpu governor, etc
[12:03] <oetzi> I want to configure this info bubble which shows up by pidgin on state changes
[12:03] <dkkd_> ikonia: i am clueless
[12:03] <shogoot> acicula, im might done the region thing wrong, hold on :)
[12:03] <ikonia> dkkd_: have you actually read the install information ?
[12:03] <ikonia> !install | dkkd_
[12:03] <D-F3NS> wols_, cpu governor?
[12:03] <acicula> shogoot: copying failed?
[12:03] <dohomi> sorry ubotto im really slow
[12:03] <dohomi> and this chat windows flying on my 14 ''
[12:04] <oetzi> i want to move them to another position
[12:04] <dohomi> its hard to follow
[12:04] <wols_> devkhadka: the thing that governs speedstep or cool'n'quiet
[12:04] <shogoot> acicula, copying is doing good, it is working fine
[12:04] <acicula> dohomi: right click the channel and tick  hide join/part sp,etjomg
[12:04] <acicula> shogoot: ehm then your regional code should be ok i think
[12:04] <acicula> can you open the individual video files in the movie player?
[12:05] <acicula> dohomi: if you are using xchat that is
[12:05] <root> #semplice
[12:06] <spc_in_plc> Hello Guys. Is there any support for running Ubuntu OS on Android tablets?
[12:06] <ikonia> spc_in_plc: not really
[12:06] <ikonia> spc_in_plc: nothing specific
[12:07] <Dan_E> ne1 use icecat?
[12:07] <spc_in_plc> ikonia, Ubuntu announced that they're pushing for a Ubuntu Tablet back in January of this year. What happened to those plans?
[12:07] <ikonia> spc_in_plc: no idea
[12:08] <acicula> spc_in_plc: not all tablets are created equal, android tablets are almost eclusively arm based
[12:08] <shogoot> acicula, do you know what region USA is? i bought a dvd from there you see
[12:08] <acicula> or all are arm even?
[12:08] <spc_in_plc> ikonia, damn it would be so useful to have one right now.
[12:08] <acicula> shogoot: you can only change your regional codes a few times
[12:08] <dkkd_> ikonia: i couldn find unetbootin help. what do i do
[12:08] <shogoot> acicula, i know
[12:08] <ikonia> dkkd_: unetbootin is just another way of booting the normal installer
[12:08] <shogoot> acicula, im gonna rip this and change it back :)
[12:09] <acicula> shogoot: but idk what the region code for usa is, you have to check the dvd for the regional code it requires
[12:09] <spc_in_plc> dkkd, What are you trying to do?
[12:09] <acicula> shogoot: but were you able to copy the entire dvd to your harddrive?
[12:09] <shogoot> acicula, i did not complete the copying... i aborted
[12:10] <dkkd_> ikonia: but i am stuck in the install process after boot choosing different partition. i am not so used with partitioninmg
[12:10] <acicula> shogoot: id really test that first, if you can copy all the files then copy protection is not the problem
[12:10] <dkkd_> to*
[12:11] <ikonia> dkkd_: the instructions explain it
[12:12] <shogoot> acicula, hmmmm  http://pastebin.com/HTXr93et and my dvd is region 1..........
[12:13] <acicula> it has no code set?
[12:13] <shogoot> acicula, the default path to the dvd player is /media/dv0?
[12:13] <D-F3NS> shogoot, /media/dvX
[12:13] <acicula> shogoot: no devices are in /dev
[12:13] <acicula> so probably /dev/sr0 or /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd
[12:14] <acicula> those all point to the same device btw
[12:14] <Tr3nT> Hi
[12:14] <acicula> /media/somename is created by the filebrowser when it opens the dvd
[12:16] <shogoot> now its eorking, i directed my dvd palyer to /dev/sr0 its working fine now :)
[12:16] <acicula> what are you using to play dvd's?
[12:17] <dkkd_> ikonia: i am using usb install for the first time. there is the parttion sda7 already. but when i try it gives not root file sys. what gives?
[12:18] <dohomi> my empathy broke down
[12:18] <dohomi> my problem is not install and running of skype, its simply not working
[12:18] <peri_> Hello. I have a stupid question about disc space.
[12:19] <dohomi> it shows that im available and online, but i cant receive and send mails
[12:19] <acicula> !ask
[12:20] <acicula> dohomi: when you click the applet what do you see
[12:20] <peri_> I have Natty loaded on a box with a 2TB HDD for media storage and a 1TB HDD for system and text files.
[12:21] <dohomi> i see skype running...and after a while nothing happening anymore
[12:21] <dohomi> and people see me as offline, but my skype shows online
[12:21] <peri_> The system is saying I only have 235 MB left but I have ober 1TH on one disk and 810 on the other
[12:21] <acicula> skype integrates with the notifier applet?
[12:21] <peri_> I can seem to work out what is going wrong.
[12:21] <dohomi> n@acicula
[12:22] <acicula> peri_: can you pastebin the output of df -h
[12:22] <dohomi> not sure what do you mean, the notifier on the top right?
[12:22] <acicula> just open a terminal or console, type df -h, select all, right click and copy and put it on pastebin
[12:22] <peri_> I'll try - I'm still learning.  so command would be sudo dh - h?
[12:22] <acicula> dohomi: the notifier looks like a mail icon
[12:22] <dkkd_> i need some help with unetbootin install?
[12:22] <acicula> peri_: df -h
[12:23] <acicula> dkkd_: is using the nonadvanced option and option so the installer will just setup the harddrive for you?
[12:23] <peri_> Thanks. Here is it:
[12:23] <peri_> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[12:23] <peri_> /dev/sda2             5.6G  5.0G  254M  96% /
[12:23] <peri_> none                  1.8G  680K  1.8G   1% /dev
[12:23] <peri_> none                  1.8G  436K  1.8G   1% /dev/shm
[12:23] <peri_> none                  1.8G  348K  1.8G   1% /var/run
[12:23] <peri_> none                  1.8G     0  1.8G   0% /var/lock
[12:23] <FloodBot1> peri_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:23] <acicula> !pastebin | peri_
[12:23] <dohomi> no its just the skype symbol on the top right, like in windows
[12:24] <acicula> dohomi: ok, so it is not related to the notifier then, its just a problem you have with skype
[12:24] <peri_> Ok. Sorry, still earning. Apologies
[12:24] <acicula> peri_: thats ok, its a common mistake
[12:24] <acicula> peri_: you may have 1Tb of disk space on your drive, but you have only a 5.6Gb partition for ubuntu in use
[12:24] <dohomi> yes, i hadnt had the problem with unity desktop, but since gnome classic its working unstable
[12:25] <peri_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/633579/
[12:25] <dkkd_> acicula: yes i want to install in other drive(partition) than where my windows is installed. i am on step 4 of install whih asks for nonadvanced and adv. how do i proceed?
[12:25] <acicula> peri_: which is why you seem to be running out of space
[12:26] <acicula> dkkd_: the nonadvanced option should resize the existing partition to make room for ubuntu, but you should really read the installation wiki page ikonia linked
[12:26] <peri_> OK. Thanks heaps acicula.
[12:26] <peri_> I am most obliged. How can I fix it?
[12:27] <acicula> peri_: you need a larger root filesystem, id make the / at least 20GB
[12:27] <peri_> Ok. Will I need to reinstall Natty?
[12:27] <acicula> peri_: you can use gparted from a livecd/stick to resize the / most likely
[12:27] <peri_> Dont mind if I have to.
[12:27] <acicula> !resize
[12:28] <acicula> peri_: though reinstalling is quicker then resizing probably
[12:28] <mac_nibblet> Can someone help me with iptables?
[12:28] <dkkd_> acicula: i just have 31 GB on existing partition. will the non advanced partition increase it? which part do i read in the install page ikonia linked?
[12:28] <dohomi> is resizing safe? i also need to do it
[12:28] <peri_> Ok. I am learning heaps talking to you.  Is it stable to do that - or it is better to reinstall from the beginning? I don't mind doing it.
[12:28] <acicula> dkkd_: do you have an existing free partition?
[12:29] <dohomi> ill running a ssd 128 gig and the ubuntu is bit too small
[12:29] <acicula> peri_: well resizing or any disk operation always carries risks, so make backups
[12:29] <anonboo> mac_nibblet, Ask your question.
[12:29] <acicula> peri_: but its mostly just slow, reinstalling takes like 20-30minutes
[12:30] <acicula> resizing is slow i mean
[12:30] <naxa> hi! anyone know a good channel for noise reduction questions?
[12:30] <acicula> naxa: electronics or math
[12:30] <naxa> acicula: for image noise reduction?
[12:31] <naxa> acicula: well i will give it a try, thanks :)
[12:31] <acicula> eh image noise reduction?
[12:31] <dkkd_> acicula: by existing do you mean what is shown using the graphics. dev/sda1(windows) sda5 and sda6 with 78 and 105 gb? is this what you meant?
[12:32] <acicula> dkkd_: i cant tell you if those partitions are free or if you have data on there
[12:32] <naxa> acicula: yes
[12:33] <naxa> acicula: i have this http://people.inf.elte.hu/naknaat/problem.png and it drives me and my applications crazy
[12:33] <dkkd_> acicula: i know which is free. how do i install there?
[12:34] <peri_> Yup. I think I will reinstall. BTW:  I have home, boot root and swap. What sizes do you recommend for each?
[12:34] <acicula> dkkd_: you can right click the partition i think, then you set the filesystem type and the mount point. you need at least one filesystem with / and formatted as ext4. you also need a swap partition
[12:35] <Mandrew> hello i have a apple airport base station but the i macbook had to connect to it is dead and i cant remember the PW for the base station, so i wonder how i hack it to get my PW back to it?
[12:35] <Cube``> Mandrew: nice try
[12:35] <wols_> Amaranth: not ubuntu related. ask apple for tech support
[12:35] <acicula> peri_: boots a bit big , kernels take 10megs or so each and thats all that goes in there, so anything above 200mb is fine. for swap if you want to suspend to disk you want the size of your memory or twice that if you dont have much mem
[12:36] <wols_> Mandrew: ^^
[12:36] <Mandrew> my ubuntu distro feels lonely :S
[12:37] <acicula> naxa: you want to get rid of the small dots?
[12:37] <peri_> Thanks Acicula. I have 3.4 GB memory.
[12:37] <naxa> acicula: yes
[12:37] <Mandrew> wols_, my apple care has run out :( so they dont help me with it, and if i tell them that im running ubuntu now, they hang up on me ;)
[12:37] <acicula> hmm the gimp channel might be a better choice then
[12:37] <acicula> #gimp
[12:38] <dkkd_> acicula: could you link me to a page on install wiki where this info is given?
[12:38] <acicula> Mandrew: no hacking support here, even if its your old grannys wifi you are tring to fix
[12:38] <wols_> Mandrew: you don't have a ubuntu problem so please stop
[12:38] <naxa> acicula: i will try thanks!
[12:38] <Forer> Hey guys, My mother is looking around for computers and she just needs something for the standard "web browsing, youtube, email, facebook" and I was looking into new computers. I found http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.638451 and wondering if I can get her to use it but I ALWAYS have driver issues with ubuntu that I have to spend hours to fix
[12:39] <acicula> dkkd_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall
[12:39] <Mandrew> wols_, it a ubuntu problem cuz i cant connect with my ubuntu distro ;)
[12:39] <wols_> Forer: we don't do hardware support
[12:39] <acicula> Forer: #hardware
[12:39] <wols_> Mandrew: stop it already
[12:39] <Forer> Thanks
[12:40] <RevSpecies116> cuz = because
[12:40] <RevSpecies116> i = I
[12:40] <dkkd_> acicula: that was precisely what i needed. thanks a ton
[12:40] <acicula> dkkd_: glad i could point you in the right direction
[12:41] <__Beta> Someone can help me with a gnome3 issue?
[12:41] <RevSpecies116> GNOME 3 and Ubuntu?
[12:41] <RevSpecies116> I don't think that is supported yet
[12:42] <ikonia> RevSpecies116: it's not
[12:42] <__Beta> Yes, added by ppa, clean install
[12:42] <RevSpecies116> \j @gnome
[12:42] <RevSpecies116> \j #gnome
[12:43] <acicula>  other slash
[12:43] <RevSpecies116> Lovely :)
[12:43] <RevSpecies116> __Beta: try #gnome :)
[12:45] <peri_> Acicula - thanks for your help. Much appreciated. Final question. does the root partition fill up and should I purge it from time to time?
[12:46] <acicula> peri_: /var/ can accumulate data like log files over time, and its also the location where downloaded packages are stored
[12:46] <acicula> so it will increase some
[12:48] <cloudyLights> hi all, when I insert a usb disk I get the message: unable to mount
[12:48] <peri_> Ok. Thanks. Explains a lot. Thanks for your help acicula. Needless to say I learnt a lot tonight and thanks for your patience.
[12:48] <cloudyLights> a window
[12:48] <cloudyLights> why?
[12:48] <acicula> peri_: your welcome
[12:49] <acicula> cloudyLights: what kind of usb disk?
[12:49] <cloudyLights> disk on key
[12:50] <acicula> i dont understand, can you rephrase that or give me a brand/model?
[12:50] <cloudyLights> min...
[12:51] <Cube``> hmm
[12:51] <RevSpecies116> cloudyLights: What are you unable to mount?
[12:52] <cloudyLights> a usb memory stick
[12:52] <RevSpecies116> Ahh, a USB Flash stick :)
[12:52] <Cube``> RevSpecies116: lol :D
[12:52] <Cube``> mm
[12:52] <RevSpecies116> Has it worked in the past, cloudyLights? on a Windows OS?
[12:53] <cloudyLights> when I insert the usb flash stick I see this error window
[12:53] <cloudyLights> I click ok
[12:53] <Cube``> lol
[12:53] <RevSpecies116> And has that USA stick worked ever since you got it out of the wrapper?
[12:53] <RevSpecies116> USA = USB :(
[12:54] <progre55> Hi guys. I'm installing nvidia-current drivers using apt, but there's nothing under /dev/nvidia*. Any suggestions, please?
[12:54] <cloudyLights> I then do dmesg|tail and see it was identified as sdc1
[12:54] <RevSpecies116> I ask that, cloudyLights, so that we don't have to format it and delete things off the stick if we don't need to
[12:55] <acicula> progre55: should there be?
[12:55] <cloudyLights> I mount it as root
[12:55] <RevSpecies116> So it looks like you know a little Linux, cloudyLights - that is a good thing :)
[12:55] <cloudyLights> after manually mounting it , it works fine
[12:55] <cloudyLights> I am using xfce4 and gvfs
[12:56] <cloudyLights> is this a permition issue?
[12:56] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, so, cloudyLights - just to confirm the stick is not automatically mounting?
[12:56] <acicula> progre55: also what nvidia card do you have, and is this a headless installation ?
[12:56] <cloudyLights> policykit?
[12:56] <progre55> acicula: I'm not sure, but I cant get python-pyopencl working. I get "clGetPlatformIDs failed: invalid/unknown error code"
[12:56] <cloudyLights> using ubuntu 11.04
[12:56] <progre55> acicula: gtx 275
[12:56] <RevSpecies116> Ubuntu 11.04 doesn't come with xfce though :(
[12:57] <cloudyLights> I installed it
[12:57] <acicula> progre55: is X running?
[12:57] <RevSpecies116> What happens if you use Ubuntu proper?
[12:57] <Cube``> acicula: i think so
[12:57] <progre55> acicula: umm.. no x, as it's on a server =)
[12:58] <sudokill> cloudyLights, i think theres one called xubuntu
[12:58] <progre55> acicula: wanted to set it up for bitcoin mining
[12:58] <acicula> lsmod | grep nvidia does tht show anything?
[12:58] <RevSpecies116> OK, what happens cloudyLights is you load Ubuntu proper with no xfce?
[12:58] <acicula> Cube``: what?
[12:58] <cloudyLights> winodws manager issues in gnome
[12:59] <cloudyLights> missning boards
[12:59] <RevSpecies116> If you choose 'Ubuntu Classic' at the login screen, for example? does the drive auto mount in Ubuntu proper
[12:59] <progre55> acicula: thats what I get from lsmod "nvidia              10220950  0"
[12:59] <acicula> progre55: i guess it is loaded
[12:59] <RevSpecies116> Missing boards, cloudyLights? Like no GNOME panels?
[12:59] <RevSpecies116> You may need to load Ubuntu Classic, cloudyLights
[13:00] <cloudyLights> I use startxfce4 -- :1 from shell
[13:01] <cloudyLights> which works
[13:01] <cloudyLights> its just that gvfs issue
[13:01] <RevSpecies116> If could be an xfce issue, cloudyLights - that may not be supportedf here, I don't know :(
[13:02] <acicula> progre55: not really sure why your opencl tool fails, but it seems you have the driver module loaded
[13:02] <RevSpecies116> OK, cloudyLights - just so I know... Has that USB disk been formatted so a windows machine can see it too [FAT, FAT32, NTFS]?
[13:02] <cloudyLights> YES
[13:02] <progre55> acicula: I probably need to export the LD_LIBRARY_PATH var
[13:02] <RevSpecies116> OK :) And just to confirm, cloudyLights, can a windows machine see it OK?
[13:02] <glontu> hi
[13:03] <cloudyLights> yes
[13:03] <RevSpecies116> OK, and do you have an Ubuntu liveCD handy, cloudyLights?
[13:03] <acicula> progre55: are you running the script as root?
[13:04] <progre55> acicula: not really.. let me try running it as root..
[13:04] <jvargas> how can I get information about a package I am about to install from console?
[13:04] <cloudyLights> yes
[13:04] <cloudyLights> but min
[13:04] <jvargas> I'd like to see version number and description before perform 'install'
[13:04] <cloudyLights> I will be back
[13:04] <acicula> jvargas: apt-cache show
[13:05] <glontu> does anyone know if the ubuntu kernel will support multipath routes by default ?
[13:05] <acicula> jvargas: or apt-cache in general for querying metainformation
[13:05] <jvargas> acicula: thank you so much, will give it a try.
[13:05] <RevSpecies116> I apologise if it sounds like I am stepping through a script, cloudyLights - but I just don't want to give you wrong instructions
[13:05] <acicula> glontu: multipath as in what protocol?
[13:05] <stix> Hi guys. Can I apt-get downgrade my firefox to 3.6.x?
[13:05] <glontu> using ip route
[13:05] <glontu> instead of adding just one default route in there
[13:06] <rhin0> stix can't you just uninstall it and install 3.6.x?
[13:06] <wols_> stix: you can try, but it's unsupported
[13:06] <RevSpecies116> But I would say my next step, cloudyLights, would be to load the computer with the LiveCD, and see if the USB disk mounts from there automatically
[13:06] <glontu> add one with 2 gateways
[13:06] <rhin0> never heard  of a "downgrade" stix
 ok
 thnaks
[13:06] <RevSpecies116> And if it does, cloudyLights, the problem is with XFCE and not with your disk
[13:06] <stix> rhin0, well other package managers support downgrade
[13:06] <cloudyLights> ok
[13:06] <cloudyLights> got it
[13:07] <sipior> glontu: you can add as many routes as you like. multiple default routes are possible, but slightly complicated to set up.
[13:07] <acicula> glontu: that does not work
[13:07] <RevSpecies116> :) Best of luck, cloudyLights
[13:07] <glontu> acicula: why not?
[13:07] <glontu> i am trying to follow this: http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html
[13:07] <glontu> down there where they say load balancing
[13:08] <glontu> that is the kind of multipath route i want to add
[13:08] <glontu> no bgp or stuff like that
[13:08] <PythonSnake> Hi all
[13:08] <acicula> glontu: you are using two distinct ip addresses and balancing outbound connections between the two
[13:09] <glontu> acicula: yes
[13:09] <acicula> you can do that just fine now?
[13:09] <dwossjs> hi, i read somewhere that we can use procfs to connect to another host treating the connection as a file, any pointers on this?
[13:09] <glontu> no
[13:09] <glontu> i can only ping my gateway
[13:09] <RevSpecies116> stix: You may be able to purge a repo where Firefox was, and uninstall Firefox X.XX and install firefox 3.XX
[13:09] <glontu> but can't go through my gateway
[13:09] <antodaniel> how to add xchat-irc in top right corner panel in ubuntu-11.04 ?
[13:09] <progre55> acicula: even using root I get "pyopencl.LogicError: clGetPlatformIDs failed: invalid/unknown error code"
[13:09] <glontu> pinging google for example
[13:10] <RevSpecies116> stix: What Ubuntu are you running? What FF are you running? What repo did you get your FF from?
[13:10] <acicula> progre55: dunno then, try the nvidia cude/opencl sdk and compile the samples
[13:10] <acicula> glontu: you cant just route, you will need to apply nat
[13:10] <glontu> acicula: i will deal with nat later
[13:10] <progre55> acicula: thanks man, appreciate
[13:10] <PythonSnake> How to install GNOME 3 ? I'm actually on Unity. Thanks
[13:10] <glontu> for now i can'tuse internet on the box itself
[13:10] <stix> RevSpecies116, I am running Ubuntu 11.04 and FF was auto-upgraded to 5 via the default repos
[13:11] <htmlinprogress> hi
[13:11] <glontu> the box itself can't go through it's own gateway ( the isp )
[13:11] <DMKitsch> hi
[13:11] <RevSpecies116> PythonSnake: We can help as long as you realise if you gave GNOME3 issues, you will get no further supprt :(
[13:11] <htmlinprogress> how do i stream over my network
[13:11] <DMKitsch> i need help with user permissions actually
[13:12] <RevSpecies116> stix: i AM SO SORRY - YOU MAY BE STUCK WITH THE LATEST ff IF IT IS FROM THE OFFICIAL REPO :(
[13:12] <RevSpecies116> I am also sorry I just shouted
[13:12] <RevSpecies116> :(
[13:12] <RevSpecies116> Silly Caps-Lock key
[13:12] <DMKitsch> lol
[13:12] <DMKitsch> i have just installed vsftpd
[13:12] <sipior> RevSpecies116: consider remapping it to Control; vastly more useful :-)
[13:12] <DMKitsch> i made a group ftp-users
[13:13] <RevSpecies116> sipior: I may just have to do that :)
[13:13] <DMKitsch> and an account "dave"
[13:13] <DMKitsch> i mapped it to /home/website
[13:13] <DMKitsch> but i need to set write access to my folder
[13:13] <acicula> glontu: eh remove all routes and just enable one interface with one default route and see if your internet works again?
[13:13] <DMKitsch> do you have any ideas?
[13:14] <PythonSnake> Does File Manager have less functions than Desktops environment ?
[13:14] <RevSpecies116> PythonSnake: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-GNOME-3-on-Ubuntu-11-04-194085.shtml
[13:14] <acicula> DMKitsch: user dave will need write access to /home/website
[13:14] <DMKitsch> yes
[13:14] <RevSpecies116> Just remember PythonSnake That GNOME3 is not currently supported by Canonical or this room [yet]
[13:15] <DMKitsch> any takers?
[13:15] <RevSpecies116> And once you go to GNOME 3, it is VERY HARD to return to default 11.04 without a re-install
[13:15] <PythonSnake> RevSpecies116: Thanks a lot.
[13:16] <htmlinprogress> DMKitsch,  for what ?
[13:16] <DMKitsch> the question i posted above
[13:16] <RevSpecies116> I wish you well, PythonSnake - and report back your success :)
[13:16] <DMKitsch> i need to give write permissions to a user
[13:17] <htmlinprogress> DMKitsch,  i didnt gtet to see it , i just got here
[13:17] <PythonSnake> What is Gnome 3 Shell ?
[13:17] <DMKitsch> ok
[13:17] <acicula> DMKitsch: make dave the owner of the website directoru
[13:17] <acicula> chown will do that
[13:18] <DMKitsch> ok
[13:18] <aeon-ltd> PythonSnake: the next gnome DE
[13:19] <acicula> RevSpecies116: actually with ppa-purge its been remarkebly easy for me to switch back and forth
[13:19] <RevSpecies116> GNOME Shell is the GNOME Fountations version of Unity
[13:19] <acicula> RevSpecies116: though you have to jump through some hoops here and there
[13:19] <htmlinprogress> how do i stream a movie from my house   to  my moms house ?
[13:20] <RevSpecies116> acicula: You mean from GNOME 3 to default Ubuntu 11.04
[13:20] <RevSpecies116> ?
[13:20] <iceroot> htmlinprogress: you can do it with vlc
[13:20] <acicula> RevSpecies116: yes
[13:20] <antodaniel_> how to xchat in panel. It disappears when Minimised to tray
[13:20] <DMKitsch> there is too much is occuring on here, i guess it isn't supprising so i am off
[13:20] <PythonSnake> Is GNOME 3 already installed on 11.04?
[13:20] <antodaniel_> how to add xchat in panel. It disappears when Minimised to tray
[13:20] <DMKitsch> you really should stop the joining and leaving thing
[13:20] <RevSpecies116> Have we got the purge commands handy acicula - just incase we have a few people wanting to rid themselves of GNOME3?
[13:21] <ikonia> PythonSnake: gnome 3 is not supported by the ubuntu project
[13:21] <RevSpecies116> DMKitsch: If you use ChatZilla for FireFox, you don't get the joining and leaving things
[13:21] <RevSpecies116> I really want them, but Chatzilla removes them automattically
[13:21] <acicula> RevSpecies116: sudo ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3/
[13:22] <RevSpecies116> Thanks acicula :)
[13:22] <aeon-ltd> PythonSnake: no
[13:22] <htmlinprogress> iceroot, i have tried for a very long while time (2-6 weeks) and tried others ways,,,,  im so stuck that i dont know what to do
[13:22] <bobbyd> hi
[13:22] <acicula> RevSpecies116: its a oneshot deal though, if you fail you have to readd the repo first to be able to purge it. It basically purges the gnome3 packages and pulls the old packages back in, so its not exactly bulletproof
[13:23] <RevSpecies116> I thought not, acicula - but all moot by 11.10 :)
[13:23] <bobbyd> I seem to have stopped rsyslod from writing system logs. It's running, but I get no output. I think I misconfigured the rsyslog.conf file. How would I get the original file back (no I didn't back it up, sorry :( )
[13:23] <htmlinprogress> bobbyd,  hi
[13:23] <RevSpecies116> PythonSnake: - if you really want GNOME3, I believe it will be default in October with ubuntu
[13:23] <bobbyd> can I reconfigure the package and get it to overwrite the conf file?
[13:24] <RevSpecies116> 4 months away, PythonSnake - I'm sure you have patience for then
[13:24] <ikonia> it will not contain gnome shell
[13:24] <RevSpecies116> Unity is Ubuntu's future
[13:24] <RevSpecies116> I love Unity
[13:24] <iceroot> htmlinprogress: http://wiki.videolan.org/Streaming
[13:24] <RevSpecies116> Although my laptop may love Unity2D better ;)
[13:25] <PythonSnake> RevSpecies116: Do you know a good professional Desktop Environment/ File Manager for programming Python ?
[13:25] <ikonia> PythonSnake: desktop and file manager has nothing to do with programming python
[13:26] <antro> rsync only prints "sending incremental file list" but doesn't update the files ... How to solve this ??
[13:26] <DMKitsch> hi again
[13:26] <RevSpecies116> I am sorry, PythonSnake I do not :( The only IDE for programming I know is Eclipse [for Android]
[13:27] <DMKitsch> guys i only want one user being able to access my FTP accounts, i don't know how to change it!
[13:27] <DMKitsch> any helpers
[13:27] <DMKitsch> i got a security risk at the moment
[13:27] <iceroot> DMKitsch: dont put other users in the ftp-group
[13:27] <ikonia> DMKitsch: you'll need to set it to use virtual user, define a virtual users list with one users
[13:27] <ikonia> DMKitsch: or use the "deny" list option
[13:27] <bobbyd> ok I fixed it, the conf file was corrupted
[13:27] <DMKitsch> hmm
[13:27] <RevSpecies116> Is that OS side, or server side settings, DMKitsch
[13:28] <DMKitsch> it seems to use all users in all groups
[13:28] <DMKitsch> not sure
[13:28] <sipior> DMKitsch: if you really want only one user accessing this data, surely it's better to simply transfer it via scp/ssh/sshfs?
[13:28] <DMKitsch> deny list?
[13:29] <DMKitsch> i got an anonymous user which i need to set up too
[13:29] <DMKitsch> for file transfer
[13:29] <hnwy>  #linux110
[13:29] <RevSpecies116> anonymous upload or anonymous download?
[13:30] <DMKitsch> download
[13:30] <RevSpecies116> OK - so to confirm: Only 1 person can every upload, but anyone should be able to download, DMKitsch
[13:31] <RevSpecies116> every = ever
[13:31] <DMKitsch> yes, revspecies116
[13:31] <PythonSnake> RevSpecies116: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291 -Take a look at the poll
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:31] <PythonSnake> GNOME 3 has 4x more votes
[13:31] <RevSpecies116> I'm not your man to help with that one, sorry, DMKitsch - but I am sure you can get some help with that one
[13:32] <DMKitsch> ok
[13:32] <lhjlxa> 你好
[13:32] <DMKitsch> thanks for the help
[13:32] <RevSpecies116> I've never done it myslef, but I may need some pointers for the furture, DMKitsch
[13:32] <lhjlxa> 最近怎么样
[13:32] <lhjlxa> 是，我很好
[13:32] <bazhang> !cn | lhjlxa
[13:32] <RevSpecies116> !cn | lhjlxa
[13:33] <antro> rsync only prints "sending incremental file list" but doesn't update the files ... How to solve this ??
[13:33] <RevSpecies116> PythonSnake: Shuutleworth has the last say - polls mean 'nothing' here :( :) But I really do prefer Unity to GNOME Shell
[13:34] <rhin0> nobody appears to like unity
[13:34] <PythonSnake> Why ?
[13:34] <RevSpecies116> GNOME Shell has speed regressions too :)
[13:34] <rhin0> I had to get out when I couldn't even start a terminal
[13:34] <PythonSnake> GNOME 3 is more responsive
[13:34] <arucreid> did you have any problems with fans in notebooks, after installing ubuntu with unity?
[13:35] <PythonSnake> no
[13:35] <rhin0> i'll say this : what I saw of unity it didn't even look finished -- scrappy graphically
[13:36] <dr_Willis> ita w
[13:36] <rhin0> also -- the only problams I've seen with ubuntu -- gpu hangups have been caused by unity
[13:36] <rhin0> im close to ditching 11.04
[13:36] <AkoustikosPeripa> how tohow to change the buttons of the windows and put them in the right of the box. /
[13:36] <AkoustikosPeripa> ?
[13:36] <AkoustikosPeripa> ubuntu 11.04
[13:36] <dr_Willis> its a work in progress.
[13:36] <phux> rhin0 is right, they should have waited till october
[13:36] <rhin0> i'll probably sort it but don't need this ie: unity integration
[13:36] <RevSpecies116> PythonSnake: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_desktop_managers1&num=1
[13:36] <dr_Willis> !classic
[13:37] <RevSpecies116> GNOME3 and Mutter are categorically shown to be scientifically more 'slow' than Compiz/Unity :)
[13:38] <PythonSnake> Will GNOME 3 causes me drivers problems or any kind of problems that I don't have on Unity ?
[13:38] <dr_Willis> gnome3 is also a work in progress. :)
[13:38] <ikonia> PythonSnake: no
[13:38] <RevSpecies116> Unknown, PythonSnake - could be better, could be worse... I would say it depends on the kernal, not the OS
[13:38] <dr_Willis> drivers are kernel/x related. not really unity specific
[13:39] <htmlinprogress> hi
[13:39] <RevSpecies116> Hello htmlinprogress :) Can we help?
[13:40] <PythonSnake> RevSpecies116: By solving his problems if he has any :).
[13:41] <RevSpecies116> AkoustikosPeripa: how tohow to change the buttons of the windows and put them in the right of the box?    I would help, BUT YOU LEFT
[13:41] <dr_Willis> !controls
[13:41] <ikonia> RevSpecies116: if he's left, there is no need to mention it
[13:41] <RevSpecies116> PythonSnake: Thats if he fills us in with his issue ;)
[13:41] <DMKitsch> .
[13:42] <ikonia> RevSpecies116: you don't have to pounce on everyone - not everyone needs help
[13:42] <RevSpecies116> ikonia: It is so sad when they hit and RUN :( he just dropped the question and RAN awy :(
[13:42] <RevSpecies116> Very sad :(
[13:43] <PythonSnake> How to remove Pidgin ?
[13:43] <ikonia> PythonSnake: why do you want to remove it ?
[13:43] <RevSpecies116> at least 3 different ways, PythonSnake
[13:43] <dr_Willis> via the package manager tools PythonSnake
[13:43] <PythonSnake> Because I already have Emphaty.
[13:44] <RevSpecies116> Apt-get/aptitude; Synaptic; Ubuntu software Center
[13:44] <htmlinprogress> RevSpecies116, yes :) im at my wits end ... RRRR    !!!       so i would like to  a video for my gf and stream it  from one comuputer to to a pc (ubuntu to windows and in in backwards )    through a lan and  through  the internet , like a vlc server
[13:44] <dr_Willis> but why bother.
[13:44] <ikonia> PythonSnake: remove it via the package manager then
[13:44] <ikonia> dr_Willis: quite
[13:44] <PythonSnake> Items cannot be installed or remived until the package catalog is repaired. Do you want to repair it ? Help
[13:44] <ikonia> PythonSnake: yes you want to repair it
[13:44] <dr_Willis> say yes....
[13:45] <dr_Willis> logical...
[13:45] <PythonSnake> Pidgin is still there
[13:45] <ikonia> PythonSnake: now remove it
[13:45] <DMKitsch> please stop the log in and log outs