[17:47] <WeiJunLi> help on this error while compiling kernel, it says to do 'make mrproper' but that command cleans everything including delete the debian/rules which is needed for compilation, hints? https://bpaste.net/show/b2cc4ddee8b6
[17:47] <Jiri__> ioria should I type "ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf   ?" in terminal?
[17:47] <ioria> Jiri_,   ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:48] <Jiri__> ioria ls: cannot access /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[17:48] <ioria>   why it's not loading radeon ?
[17:49] <ioria> Jiri_,   sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[17:49] <ducasse> WeiJunLi: we don't support manually building kernels here, you need to ask somewhere else or use the kernel that comes with the system.
[17:50] <Jiri__> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/24002116/
[17:50] <nacc> ioria: fwiw, there also can be /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d even without an /etc/X11/xorg.conf iirc
[17:51] <nacc> ioria: not sure if it's relevant here
[17:51] <ioria> nacc, great .... Jiri__ ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[17:52] <Jiri__> ioria sorry: ls: cannot access /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d: No such file or directory
[17:52] <ioria> Jiri_,   mmm...   ok, let's try .... sudo apt-get install fglrx
[17:53] <anddam> I have an ext4 and an HFS+ who got its label straight away
[17:55] <nacc> !who | anddam: unless you're trying to ask a question, in which case, what is your question?
[17:55] <anddam> nacc: what?
[17:55] <nacc> anddam: you just said a sentence rather randomly, without context ... were you trying to tell someone that?
[17:55] <nacc> anddam: "I have an ext4 and an HFS+ who got its label straight away"
[17:55] <anddam> nacc: I was keeping on the discussion of like three minutes ago with ducasse and Kruppt
[17:56] <nacc> anddam: right, so use their nicks!
[17:56] <nacc> anddam: also 3 minutes is eternity in the support channel.
[17:57] <ducasse> anddam: not 3 minutes, more like 20 :) do those mount with label instead of uuid?
[17:58] <Jiri__> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/24002155/
[17:59] <ioria> Jiri_,   looks good,  sudo amdconfig --initial
[18:00] <Jiri__> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/24002180/
[18:01] <robert45> hi guys, cant seem to install mdadm in Ubuntu 14.04, any idea? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24002187/
[18:01] <ioria> Jiri_,   can you paste  ls -a /etc/X11
[18:02] <WeiJunLi> nobody on kernel channel
[18:02] <WeiJunLi> someone around that can help me with a kernel compilation issue
[18:02] <Jiri__> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/24002192/
[18:02] <robert45> hm not sure what happen, works now
[18:03] <OerHeks> WeiJunLi, i just read back, why do you want to compile the original kernel without any changes?
[18:03] <ioria> Jiri_,   yes, you had a xorg.conf but was different named ....       ok reboot
[18:03] <WeiJunLi> OerHeks: it has changes on kernel config, enabling kasan and more..
[18:03] <WeiJunLi> OerHeks:  https://bpaste.net/show/1b11450f5e8e - 'make mrproper' cleans everything including delete debian/rules which is needed for compilation
[18:03] <ducasse> WeiJunLi: just wait there for someone to answer you
[18:04] <Younder> Is there a channel for rasperrian?
[18:05] <ducasse> !alis | Younder
[18:07] <Jiri_> ioria tousands of THANKS!!!!  :-))
[18:08] <ioria> Jiri_,   ok, you're lucky girl :þ
[18:09] <sixsixsix> hi does anyone else have troubles signing in to skype?
[18:09] <Jiri_> ioria now the resolution is perfect! Yes, both me and Eva (my X-friend) are extremely Happy!  You are an ANGEL!  :)
[18:10] <ioria> Jiri_,   no proble, you're welcome (both)
[18:10] <Jiri_> ioria just a last litle thing: How ca I get rid of the grub dialog at the start?
[18:10] <ashwin31_> I want help regarding fundraising section in djangoproject. I guess my contribution is missing or something.
[18:11] <ioria> Jiri_,   sudo nano /etc/default/grub and remove the '#' in from of  GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[18:11] <Jiri_> ioria perfect! Thanks a lot!  :)
[18:11] <ioria> Jiri_,   save, close and sudo update-grub
[18:11] <OerHeks> ashwin31_, how is that related to ubuntu support?
[18:12] <ioria> Jiri_,   don't forget sudo update-grub
[18:12] <OerHeks> ashwin31_, try #django ?
[18:14] <anddam> ducasse: I'm waiting for a big transfer to complete in case I need to umount the device
[18:17] <GhostUS> hi
[18:18] <capsloth> Can someone explain why those udev rules are not working on ubuntu 16.04? http://pastebin.com/xcmeH7m8
[18:22] <Jiri__> ioria I removed the "#" before GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 in grub and saved it but the grub still appears at the restart
[18:26] <Jiri__> Excuse me, is there anybody who could help me to remove grub dialog at the start up sequence in Ubuntu 14.04? I removed the "#" before GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 in grub and saved it but the grub still appears at the restart
[18:27] <pavlos> Jiri__, ioria wrote to sudo update-grub after you made changes
[18:27] <Jiri__> Thank you pavlos, I was too fast to reboot the computer!  :)
[18:28] <sau> Hi, my linux box cant ping chat.freenode.net whereas my win box can. Both are behind the same dns + dhcp router
[18:28] <sau> any ideas?
[18:29] <WeiJunLi> Walex: are you around
[18:30] <pavlos> sau, I do not get a ping
[18:30] <sau> pavlos: you dont on linux? I cant connect to freenode using irssi because of the name resolution problem
[18:31] <sau> pavlos: I can ping on windows. So whats wrong?
[18:31] <OerHeks> sau, got networking at all on that box?
[18:31] <sau> OerHeks: yes
[18:32] <sau> actually im on that box right now using a webclient to connect.
[18:32] <fred1807> how do I add this line to fstab?  mount -t overlay -olowerdir=/home/read1:/home/read2 overlay /home/sum
[18:32] <akik> sau: i can't ping chat.freenode.net either
[18:32] <pavlos> sau, ping from win resolves to a diff ip than from linux ... strange
[18:33] <sau> pavlos: please try nslookup freenode.net and nslookup chat.freenode.net
[18:33] <akik> sau: scratch that, it started replying
[18:33] <OerHeks> sau ping chat.freenode.net works fine here, what webclient?
[18:33] <sau> https://kiwiirc.com/client
[18:33] <pavlos> from win, Pinging chat.freenode.net [<IP_ADDRESS>] from ubuntu, PING chat.freenode.net (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[18:34] <OerHeks> sau, kiwiirc is old, use irssi or hexchat?
[18:34] <sau> OerHeks: irssi has problems with name resolution, kiwiirc does work
[18:35] <pavlos> sau, now it pings from ubuntu with ip PING chat.freenode.net (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[18:35] <OerHeks> sau, you just proved otherwise..
[18:36] <sau> pavlos: env LC_ALL=C ping chat.freenode.net -> ping: chat.freenode.net: Temporary failure in name resolution
[18:36] <sau> OerHeks: please read again
[18:36] <Younder> hexchat seems to work well
[18:37] <awatt> hello ppl
[18:37] <pavlos> sau, http://termbin.com/4k42
[18:37] <awatt> i just bought dell inspiron 15 7000 serious and i installed linux mint
[18:37] <Younder> what about it?
[18:37] <awatt> but after while sound stop working
[18:38] <awatt> how can i install the driver for its sound card
[18:38] <awatt> 4.4.0-53-generic
[18:38] <awatt> that is the kernel
[18:38] <OerHeks> awatt, we don't support mint, and if it worked, installing a driver is unlogical.
[18:38] <OerHeks> !mint
[18:38] <Younder> awatt, have you tried the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[18:39] <awatt> ok so what is the room for mint
[18:39] <pavlos> awatt, #linuxmint-help
[18:39] <Younder> otherwise http://www.alsa-project.org/~valentyn/Alsa-sound-mini-HOWTO-7.html usually get's me up to speed
[18:39] <k1l> awatt: its on another irc network. just use the irc programs on mint, they have that set to autojoin that channels
[18:40] <anddam> ducasse: yep, worked perfectly
[18:40] <anddam> thanks
[18:40] <sau> pavlos: i see, good for you. You probably use network-manager via dnsmasq, so <IP_ADDRESS> works for you. I even tried to turn it off but I dont get better results.
[18:40] <awatt> this is what i used
[18:40] <awatt> it came directly here
[18:40] <Younder> I don't like to flood this channel with spesific questions as soud debugging is complex and it would be distracting.
[18:40] <k1l> !mint > awatt
[18:55] <pavlos> sau, I can use my DNS, dig @<IP_ADDRESS> chat.freenode.net (or nslookup -server <IP_ADDRESS> chat.freenode.net)
[18:56] <Younder> Why are you doing that. Let DNS's upsteam handle that.
[18:58] <teward> Younder: some of us don't trust upstream DNS so we run our own resolvers :P
[19:03] <tanay> connect #EliteBNC
[19:11] <raccoon_> hola
[19:11] <raccoon_> #quit
[19:17] <igoryonya> hello, After upgrading to Ubuntu 16.04, menus on most of the programs disappeared. Changing 'show window menu' option in 'system parameters' doesn't fix anything. I have to start most of the programs from the command line with envirement variable setting before the command: UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=0 , in order to show the menu. It then appears  below the handler header of the window.
[19:17] <igoryonya> How can I fix it?
[19:19] <RonaldsMazitis> I'm trying to launch fl studio with wine on ubuntu 16.04
[19:19] <RonaldsMazitis> http://apaste.info/oxk7M
[19:19] <RonaldsMazitis> this is how the error looks like
[19:19] <ducasse> !wine | RonaldsMazitis
[19:20] <pavlos> igoryonya, this may help, initctl restart unity-panel-service
[19:20] <RonaldsMazitis> ducasse there is just nobody on #winehq so I came here
[19:21] <koleygr> igoryonya: you can try this to fix the problem in next boots: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears
[19:21] <ducasse> RonaldsMazitis: there will be, sooner or later. you can also try the appdb
[19:21] <ducasse> !appdb | RonaldsMazitis
[19:21] <akik> RonaldsMazitis: did you change the windows version wine is using?
[19:22] <RonaldsMazitis> I can't open winecfg same error
[19:22] <RonaldsMazitis> akik
[19:24] <akik> RonaldsMazitis: you have some other problem then, than wine(?)
[19:25] <RonaldsMazitis> yes, I have problem with unity, icons doesn't manage to stay on same positions since I upgraded os
[19:25] <RonaldsMazitis> but thats secondary
[19:27] <igoryonya> pavlos, thanx, it helped for now
[19:27] <akik> RonaldsMazitis: sorry don
[19:28] <akik> RonaldsMazitis: sorry don't know what's wrong
[19:28] <igoryonya> koleygr, thank You, I will read it to fix it permanently
[19:30] <igoryonya> After upgrade to Ubuntu 16.04, when I open menu (lens) - it doesn't show many installed apps in there. When I type some program, that I know, that exists, it doesn't show up in found apps, below the search.
[19:31] <igoryonya> How can I fix it?
[19:33] <OerHeks> igoryonya, check out the top left option > filter results
[19:34] <Simonious> ls
[19:34] <Simonious> bah
[19:34] <igoryonya> OerHeks, even, when in in filters is 'all'
[19:34] <bobafett> damn vpn
[19:35] <OerHeks> igoryonya, then i have no clue
[19:35] <Simonious> I've put ubuntu on the beaglebone and I can't seem to find an unzip utility, help
[19:35] <Simonious> E: Unable to locate package unzip
[19:36] <CodeMouse92__> Simonious: did you install it?
[19:37] <CodeMouse92__> !info unzip | Simonious
[19:37] <Simonious> I tried apt get, that's the E: mesg above
[19:37] <pavlos> igoryonya, this may help, remove the ~/.cache/unity/ dir, logout, login
[19:37] <CodeMouse92__> Simonious: Mm. What version of Ubuntu?
[19:37] <OerHeks> Simonious, that beagle is arm .. try #ubuntu-arm ?
[19:37] <Simonious> beaglebone..
[19:38] <Simonious> ok
[19:38] <k1l> !info unzip
[19:38] <Pici> It should still be available on  armel and armhf
[19:39] <Simonious> I agree
[19:39] <Simonious> I don't know how to get it
[19:39] <k1l> Simonious: what is the output of "lsb_release -sd"?
[19:40] <Simonious> Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[19:40] <k1l> Pici: armel is not supported by ubuntu since years. but armhf and newer ones.
[19:40] <Pici> k1l: oops, I mispasted the wrong line. you're right
[19:41] <k1l> but i guess debian is not shipping it due to no beeing free enough? so if that is an ubuntu or debian matters
[19:44] <k1l> Simonious: is that a snappy core install?
[19:44] <Simonious> no
[19:45] <Simonious> It's this install http://rcn-ee.com/rootfs/2017-01-23/elinux/ubuntu-16.04.1-console-armhf-2017-01-23.tar.xz
[19:45] <k1l> Simonious: can you run "sudo apt update ; apt policy unzip| nc termbin.com 9999" and show the output url here?
[19:46] <Simonious> running..
[19:47] <Simonious> http://termbin.com/dpfc
[19:47] <Simonious> doing update now
[19:48] <k1l> Simonious: so, sudo apt install unzip
[19:48] <Simonious> there we go, I just neglected the update eh?
[19:49] <k1l> looks like the local repo database was cleaned out.
[19:49] <Simonious> I should have known better, that was a fresh install
[19:52] <cfoch-always> hi
[19:52] <malwar3hun73r> anyone know how to address: "mkdir failed on directory /var/run/samba/msg.lock: Permission denied"
[19:53] <malwar3hun73r> google has not been any help
[19:53] <elias_a_> malwar3hun73r: Wrong user?
[19:53] <teward> wrong user, or Samba is already locked by another process...
[19:53] <cfoch-always> what may be a reason why my public iip is not loading my site (Ubuntu 16.04 + apache) but it works from local ip
[19:53] <cfoch-always> ?
[19:53] <k1l> cfoch-always: router forward settings
[19:54] <k1l> *port forward
[19:54] <elias_a_> cfoch-always: Does it work from another computer in your home network?
[19:55] <malwar3hun73r> elias_a_, maybe - can I add a user to samba group - is that the fix?
[19:57] <cfoch-always> k1l: elias_a_ my router has firewall disabled
[19:57] <cfoch-always> elias_a_: yes it works from other computer
[19:57] <cfoch-always> in the local netweork
[19:58] <kiscro> Hey there, I boot ubuntu 16.10 from usb disk, some times it crash when open many tabs in Firefox, I didn't have this problem when I used windows.(I have two 2GB DDR3 RAM)
[19:58] <OerHeks> cfoch-always, did you forward port 80 to your server ip?
[19:58] <nacc> kiscro: what crashes? Ubuntu or firefox?
[19:58] <k1l> cfoch-always: its not about firewall. its about the router needs to know where  to give the webserver traffic to. he doenst know that machine is a webserver if you dont forward the ports
[19:59] <OerHeks> cfoch-always, firewall or not, port forwarding is always needed with a router
[19:59] <kiscro> When software crash I think ubuntu crashes too. Cause I can't even move the crusor.
[20:00] <OerHeks> kiscro, live usb?
[20:00] <elias_a_> cfoch-always: What is meant by port forwarding here: you have to tell your router that there is a web server in this port and that should be shown to the world.
[20:01] <kiscro> @OerHeks No bro, Live was faster. I've use installed version.
[20:02] <kiscro> (I have to say that I use Task manager GUI on my ubuntu)
[20:02] <Younder> elias_a_, sudo ufw allow http (or https)
[20:02] <james1138> Hello all. Question - would anyone know of a IRC chat/channel for Analog Video Capture and/or Editing using Ubuntu??
[20:02] <Younder> It's more complicated using iptables
[20:03] <nacc> !alis | james1138
[20:03] <kiscro> @nacc When software crash I think ubuntu crashes too. Cause I can't even move the crusor.
[20:03] <elias_a_> Younder: We are talking about port forwarding in the router, not server. :)
[20:03] <nacc> kiscro: can you switch to a shell (ctrl + alt + f1)?
[20:04] <kiscro> @nacc On carash moments?
[20:06] <malwar3hun73r> i'm using the net command in samba-common-bin to make RPC requests - with every request i get an error "/var/run/samba/msg.lock: Permission denied" - any idea what's going on?
[20:07] <nacc> kiscro: yes
[20:07] <james1138> thanx
[20:07] <kiscro> @nacc I don't use that cause I don't know how to swich back from that shell.
[20:08] <pavlos> cfoch-always, did you fix the port fwd issue?
[20:08] <koleygr> kiscro: ctrl+alt+F7
[20:09] <kiscro> @koleygr It will be fix then?
[20:10] <nacc> kiscro: we are trying to debug the issue, you don't need to get back
[20:10] <koleygr> kiscro: you will return to the first screen... but if you can go to a ctrl+alt+F1 you can give some commands to see if and what happens
[20:10] <nacc> kiscro: as in, we are trying to determine what crashes
[20:11] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: what user are you running net as, and what are the permissions on that file/directory (ls -ahl /var/run/samba/)
[20:12] <kiscro> @nacc Firefox changed to grey screen.
[20:12] <nacc> kiscro: that's not a crash of firefox, necessarily. A crash would be firefox disappearing.
[20:13] <nacc> kiscro: grey screen, iirc, is typically a tab going unresponsive, right?
[20:13] <kiscro> @nacc thank you, but what is that?
[20:14] <Numline1> Hello everyone. Any thoughts on how to automatically deploy "ready" Ubuntu servers? I was using Laravel Forge, but it's kinda buggy for me and I can't find anything similar. Basically, what I need is a script that'll install a PHP production environment with a simple health check monitoring and GUI. Puppet seems overly complicated. Thanks
[20:15] <malwar3hun73r> nacc, i'm running net as a standard user and /var/run/samba is root:root
[20:15] <kiscro> @nacc "grey screen, iirc, is typically a tab going unresponsive, right?" Sorry but I don't understand
[20:15] <koleygr> kiscro: May be you are out of memory.... 2Gb is not good enough for ubuntu with unity
[20:16] <KOLANICH> Hi all! Why do we have pip package broken?
[20:16] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: well, that's probably the issue :)
[20:16] <KOLANICH> python3-pip
[20:16] <Guest71996> Hey I have configured my nvidia-settings and applies (144hz).  Anyone can help me
[20:16] <Guest71996> ?
[20:16] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: unless /var/run/samba is o+rw?
[20:16] <kiscro> @koleygr thanks, But it is 4 GB (2 * 2GB DDR3) as I said.
[20:17] <k1l> KOLANICH: what is broken?
[20:17] <koleygr> kiscro: Ok... I thought it was just 2GB....
[20:18] <KOLANICH> k1l:
[20:18] <KOLANICH>   File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/pip/_vendor/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 2121, in _rebuild_mod_path
[20:18] <KOLANICH>     orig_path.sort(key=position_in_sys_path)
[20:18] <KOLANICH> AttributeError: '_NamespacePath' object has no attribute 'sort'
[20:18] <KOLANICH> for 3.6 it works fine
[20:19] <KOLANICH> so why 3.5 is used
[20:19] <nacc> KOLANICH: you are using a local build of python (*not* recommended)
[20:19] <KOLANICH> nacc: ?
[20:19] <nacc> KOLANICH: and not the ubuntu package at all
[20:19] <nacc> KOLANICH: '/usr/local/lib'
[20:19] <k1l> KOLANICH: what ubuntu is that?
[20:20] <k1l> KOLANICH: "apt policy python3-pip | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url here
[20:20] <kiscro> Firefox using 722 Mib of memory by itself.
[20:21] <Tiger_> Hey I have configured my nvidia-settings and applies (144hz).  Anyone can help me
[20:22] <nacc> k1l: but even with taht info, the above backtrace is not from the system python3-pip
[20:22] <kiscro> 😍🌷❤
[20:22] <malwar3hun73r> nacc, should i just arbitrarily change the permissions?
[20:22] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: no, i doubt it
[20:23] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: is net meant to be run as your user?
[20:23] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: where does net live?
[20:23] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: does `man net` perhaps indicate how it is meant to b eused?
[20:23] <malwar3hun73r> nacc, have you heard of cuckoo sandbox?
[20:23] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: nope
[20:23] <k1l> nacc: alright, didnt read your message about that before
[20:24] <nacc> k1l: np, just wanted to bring it to your attention so you don't spend too many cycles :)
[20:24] <k1l> :)
[20:24] <Pici> nacc: something could get installed there if they used sudo with pip.
[20:24] <malwar3hun73r> nacc, it's a malware analysis sandbox - the author is using net and when i asked him about the error he said he didn't know how to help... anyhow, the net command is being used to reboot the machine once the analysis is over
[20:25] <malwar3hun73r> nacc, i'm assuming it's meant to run as my user
[20:25] <kiscro> @nacc Is there any solution?
[20:25] <nacc> Pici: right, but then the bug/issue is not in python3-pip (and the 'something' in this case is pip itself)
[20:25] <Pici> nacc: exactly.
[20:25] <KOLANICH> k1l: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24002897/
[20:26] <nacc> Pici: if i had to guess, locally built pip for some reason
[20:26] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: i don't have a samba setup handly, unfortunately, give me a sec
[20:26] <Pici> nacc: or installed with the get-pip.py script.
[20:26] <malwar3hun73r> nacc, it's used as "net rpc shutdown -I [ip address] -U [creds on box] -r -f --timeout=5"
[20:27] <nacc> kiscro: solution for what? you have't clearly stated the issue? or if firefox is actually crashing or if all of ubuntu is
[20:27] <nacc> Pici: ack, good point
[20:27] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: so in theory that auths to that remote and runs shutdown there?
[20:28] <malwar3hun73r> correct and the creds are for the user on that box (the windows box being rebooted) - i should mention it works, i just get that weird error
[20:28] <malwar3hun73r> nacc, and, i don't like seeing errors :)
[20:28] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: i wonder if net by default tries to use the local samba lock, fails (not fatally)
[20:29] <kiscro> @nacc Firefox and etc are runing when I saw that grey screen or sometimes not, I can't change mouse crusor
[20:29] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: you can file a bug against samba, i guess, but i doubt it's high prioriy if it works :)
[20:29] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: it doesn't seem like it should actually need the samba lock for an RPC call
[20:30] <nacc> kiscro: you can't move the mouse only when the grey screen is visible?
[20:31] <kiscro> @nacc Sometimes it shows grey screen and I can do every thing and it will be fixed, but sometimes I just watch a screen of firefox and I can't do anything.
[20:33] <OerHeks> kiscro, slow usb disc perhaps?
[20:34] <smahan83> hi is there any reason ubntu wants 8.6 gb of free soace to ibstakk?
[20:34] <kiscro> @OerHeks It is ADATA 16GB, Should I change that?
[20:35] <OerHeks> kiscro, maybe waiting a bit longer helps? 16 gb is not that much, 4 gb = 4 gb swap, 12 left ..
[20:36] <andres__> qwerty
[20:36] <k1l_> smahan83: on install? or upgrade?
[20:36] <smahan83> no frsh install
[20:36] <nacc> kiscro: i would assume your IO bound at that point (slow disk as OerHeks mentioned)
[20:36] <nacc> *you're
[20:37] <k1l_> smahan83: and that is an issue?
[20:37] <koleygr> smahan83: Ubuntu comes with some software... windows needs about 50GB just to install... ubuntu is much lighter but not so light
[20:37] <ctjctj> Hello!  I just ran into an interesting problem with blkid.  I have to LV in the same VG mounted as /dev/virtualimages/disk1 and /dev/virtualimages/disk2 which reference /dev/dm-0 and /dev/dm-1.  BOTH devices give the same UUID.  blkid -p /dev/dm-0 gives exactly the same result as blkid -p /dev/dm-1
[20:39] <kiscro> @nacc @OerHeks I use usb2, Should I upgrade my usb port (My ubuntu is fast but I have problem with Firefox and Torbrowser)? How about my USB flash(Such as I change that to a 32 or 64 GB)?
[20:49] <OerHeks> kiscro, you don't need bigger, unless you got a disc full error.. i suspect slow usb transfer is your culprit
[20:49] <zuiss1> does ubuntu have an alternative to debian backports? more recent software that can be installed in the LTS release
[20:50] <kiscro> @OerHeks thanks.
[20:50] <KOLANICH> So, how are we solving this problem?
[20:50] <OerHeks> zuiss1, then don't run LTS, 16.10 is out for months now, and ubuntu got proposed, but i would not advise to use that without a reason.
[20:51] <k1l_> zuiss1: PPA
[20:51] <k1l_> proposed is for automated testings and not for user usage.
[20:51] <Pici> !backports
[20:51] <OerHeks> and 'latest' is not always the best, ubuntu does give security fixes
[20:52] <zuiss1> not running LTS just for one or two packages seems silly
[20:52] <zuiss1> i will look into PPA and see if there is one
[20:53] <k1l_> zuiss1: well yes, you can look if there is a package in the backports repos
[20:54] <zuiss1> k1l_: ubuntu has a backports repo?
[20:54] <whathappen> In witch boot process stage is the root partition mounted?
[20:54] <nacc> KOLANICH: you have a locally built pip that is throwing the error.
[20:54] <KOLANICH> nacc, I have removed it
[20:54] <k1l_> zuiss1: see the link from the bot
[20:55] <nacc> KOLANICH: did you provide output indicating the system pip has an error?
[20:55] <nacc> KOLANICH: in a pastebin
[20:55] <zuiss1> ok
[20:55] <KOLANICH> nacc:
[20:55] <KOLANICH>   File "/usr/share/python-wheels/pkg_resources-0.0.0-py2.py3-none-any.whl/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 2078, in _rebuild_mod_path
[20:55] <KOLANICH> AttributeError: '_NamespacePath' object has no attribute 'sort'
[20:56] <nacc> KOLANICH: please use a pastebin, provide the exact command and full backtrace
[20:56] <nacc> !paste | KOLANICH
[20:56] <ravenpi> Juju question: I love deploying to containers, because it "boots" so darn fast.  But it seems I always need a "base" install on the physical system before I can install to a container.  Is there a dummy juju charm I could install to set up a physical system, then install charms to it?
[20:56] <nacc> ravenpi: may want to ask in #ubuntu-server or a juju channel (see !alis)
[20:57] <ravenpi> Thanks!  I hadn't noticed that.
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[20:59] <connect01> Jabber<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:59] <KOLANICH> nacc: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24003069/
[21:00] <nacc> KOLANICH: what was the command run?
[21:00] <nacc> KOLANICH: which version of ubuntu as well?
[21:00] <KOLANICH> nacc: python3 -m pip
[21:00] <KOLANICH> 16.10
[21:02] <giallo> http://www.tarjetarojaonline.eu/soccer/real-madrid-vs-napoli-di26795a?l=90573421
[21:02] <k1l_> KOLANICH: reinstall python3-pkg-resources
[21:03] <nacc> KOLANICH: yeah, it works fine locally, so I'm not sure -- it seems like maybe your python3 installation was broken
[21:05] <smahan83> after installation it takes less than 5 gb
[21:05] <KOLANICH> nacc: 1 Reinstalled, it hasn't helped.
[21:05] <smahan83> why does it ask for 8.6? i rememver it was 5 something
[21:06] <nekyian> anyone happens to know where I can get a SPSS install kit for LINUX?
[21:06] <nekyian> I tried a lot of kits but all are m$ only
[21:08] <pac1> try IBM
[21:09] <nacc> pac1: they already left
[21:11] <k1l_> KOLANICH: you ran "sudo apt install --reinstall python3-pkg-resources"?
[21:11] <k1l_> KOLANICH: maybe needed for that python-pkg-resources package aswell
[21:12] <KOLANICH>  k1l_: I have ran that for python3.
[21:17] <ctjctj> I have two LV block devices that are reporting the same UUID via blkid.  They are different, even different sizes.  How do I change one of the UUIDs?
[21:17] <k1l_> KOLANICH: there seems still to be an version mixup: /usr/lib/python3.5 and /usr/lib/python3 are named there
[21:18] <Colombo> Hey, just general question. I have like 700GB of files that I need to store on external HDD. Files are anything from few KBs to 16 gigs of text files. Currently, I am tarring it with XZ for good compression, but it seems to be terribly slow. Any suggestion to what I should use?
[21:19] <aleksandar_> Guys, I need help. I can start ubuntu installer in UEFI mode only, however, I want it old way, non UEFI. So, when I choose that option, I get ubuntu logo in the middle, than a black screen and than nothing. Is it about the lack of "nomodeset" in boot config on iso?
[21:20] <KOLANICH> k1l_: I don't understand where is the mixup. I mean when I call python3 python3.5 is launched
[21:20] <dury> hi there channel
[21:20] <nacc> KOLANICH: why is that surprising? python3.5 is the pacakged python3 in 16.10
[21:20] <dury> xenial
[21:21] <dury> 16.04 LTS
[21:21] <nacc> k1l_: python3 is weird :) they are both present normally
[21:21] <nacc> dury: do you have a support question?
[21:21] <KOLANICH> nacc: I know, so I don't understand where is the mixup he have meant
[21:22] <dury> autologin is it true that it's a bug in that realease?
[21:22] <dury> release sorry
[21:22] <Bashing-om> aleksandar_: What partitioning is on the drive presently ? and what option are you choosing for the install operation ?
[21:23] <dury> nacc, u know what I mean
[21:23] <k1l_> KOLANICH: you are right, both folders are present on a 16.04 isntall
[21:23] <nacc> dury: no, I don't -- is autologin a bug in 16.04?
[21:23] <k1l_> dury: what bug?
[21:24] <dury> k1l, autologin
[21:25] <dury> k1l_, autologin
[21:25] <k1l_> dury: what is with autologin?
[21:25] <aleksandar_> Bashing-om, it's MBR. Actually, I have no options to choose when I start installation in Non-UEFI. But when started in UEFI, I have normal options like choosing "Try Ubuntu" and so on...
[21:26] <Bashing-om> aleksandar_: secure boot disabled on the firmware ?
[21:26] <dury> k1l_, autologin with lxde or mate x-window-managers
[21:26] <dury> under xenial 64bits
[21:26] <aleksandar_> I believe it is. I have installed Debian 8 previously, so I believe it is.
[21:26] <k1l_> dury: no, there is no general bug we all know about. so please be more specific what the issue is
[21:26] <nacc> dury: you're *not* stating an actual bug, you're just saying 'autologin' over and over. What is your actual issue. That autologin isn't working? Or that it works and you don't like it?
[21:27] <nickg> is there anyway i can upgrade and stay in the 14.04 branch?  I'm afraid do-release-upgrade is going to take me all the way to 16.04, which we haven't fully tested yet
[21:27] <nacc> nickg: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[21:27] <nacc> nickg: with appropriate sudo
[21:27] <k1l_> nickg: do-release-upgrade will upgrade you to 16.04, yes.
[21:28] <nacc> nickg: not sure what you mean by 'upgrade', though
[21:28] <nickg> I didn't think dist-upgrade would upgrade releases.  I need to go from 14.04.X to 14.04.5
[21:28] <k1l_> nickg: if you only want to update your 14.04 to the latest state run "sudo apt update" and then "sudo apt full-upgrade"
[21:28] <nacc> nickg: just upgrade with apt, then
[21:28] <nacc> nickg: it won't upgrade releases, 14.04.5 isn't a release in that sense
[21:28] <k1l_> nickg: then just use apt. its not changing to a new ubuntu release.
[21:29] <nacc> nickg: 14.04.5 is just the current 14.04 archive with respun ISOs (there is a new HWE stack, but that is sort of independent)
[21:29] <k1l_> nickg: think of 14.04.5 like a servicepack. its not a release as such
[21:29] <jalt> nickg: you can't really upgrade from 14.04 to 14.04.x, but normal apt-get update; apt-get upgrade will get almost the same result.
[21:29] <dury> k1l_, nacc: can't autologin automatically with mate or lxde though... that's my problem
[21:29] <jalt> the point releases are weird in that way
[21:29] <Bashing-om> aleksandar_: Do not know then . see what results booting the installer with 'nomodeset' as a boot parameter - can not hurt to see what results .
[21:30] <jalt> 16.04.2 is going to be even worse due to auto-enrollment in HWE by default for new installations, but not for upgrades
[21:30] <k1l_> jalt: its very similar to the servicepacks.
[21:30] <jalt> similar yes, but that's vague
[21:31] <jalt> the HWE thing is great, but how they rolled it was... unsatisfactory.
[21:31] <aleksandar_> Bashing-om, the thing is that I cannot change any boot parameter. It's on USB iso
[21:31] <dury> k1l_, nacc: http://askubuntu.com/questions/426831/lxde-auto-login did follow this not success though
[21:32] <k1l_> jalt: the new way with the "rolling kernel" makes a lot more sense since there were a lot user on the dead end kernels and they didnt know about it
[21:32] <jalt> aleksandar_: you can edit boot parameters by pressing a key during boot to halt the timer. then i think it's either F6 or TAB to edit the boot params.
[21:33] <jalt> i agree K1l_ but people will get confused because they will see 16.04.X and not be sure which kernel+X stack they have
[21:33] <aleksandar_> jalt, does it work during loading live ISO?
[21:33] <jalt> yes aleksandar_, at least for graphical based (ubiquity), probably also for server
[21:33] <jalt> i think you have about 3 to 5 seconds to press any key when the little ubuntu logo+keyboard icon shows on the bottom of the screen
[21:34] <rager> query: does anybody have a way to get network-manager working with an ipsec/l2tp vpn?
[21:34] <rager> I'm on 16.10
[21:35] <aleksandar_> jalt, thank you
[21:35] <aleksandar_> see you soon
[21:35] <rager> I've got network-manager-strongswan, but it's apparently only going to do ike v2, not sure what the distinction exactly is
[21:36] <k1l_> dury: enabling autologin in the lubuntu or mate systemsettings doesnt work?
[21:37] <Bashing-om> allorder: Reboot the liveUSB, as soon as the firmware screen clears spam the escape key -> language screen; escape key -> boot options screen ??
[21:37] <allorder> no
[21:38] <jakub> hi. does anyone know when ubuntu 16.04.2 ISOs will be releases?
[21:38] <Bashing-om> allorder: Sorry .. tab complete/ OP gone got me .
[21:39] <allorder> :P
[21:39] <k1l_> !16.04.2 | jakub
[21:39] <Bashing-om> jakub: Last I heard sometime tomorrow .
[21:40] <dury> k1l_,where is systemsettings?
[21:40] <dury> k1l_ I'm on mate desktop
[21:41] <jakub> ubottu: i'm not in hurry. i want to come back to ubuntu from another distro, and i dont want to download the old ISO and next download another tonnes of updates
[21:41] <jakub> :)
[21:41] <dury> https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/auto-login-to-the-desktop/60 reading this
[21:42] <jakub> Bashing-om: about 9 p.m. UTC, as usual?
[21:44] <dury> hope to work under xenial, though
[21:45] <jalt> jakub: the daily isos have just been rebuilt on #ubuntu-release, so 16.04.2 ought to come out tomorrow bar further delays. might take some time for mirror sync though.
[21:46] <jalt> jakub: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/372/builds
[21:46] <ragecraze> hey guys, when i restart my pc while there is no wifi, the startup takes about 5 minutes longer than usual with a message (a start job is running for raise network interfaces (5min 1s)
[21:46] <ragecraze> how do i fix this?
[21:47] <jakub> thanks jalt
[21:50] <dury> k1l_ after reading that link, success though :-)
[21:50] <dury> k1l_ are you there?
[21:52] <k1l_> dury: yes
[21:53] <dury> k1l_ I personally prefer lxde or openbox x-window-managers light ones for old pc though
[21:55] <dury> k1l_ to recycle old computer light desktops and powerful it's all we need I guess
[21:56] <KOLANICH> what is /usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/ ?
[21:57] <ppf> the place were python3.5 packages are installed
[21:57] <dury> directory
[21:57] <dury> that's right ppf
[21:57] <KOLANICH> ppf: what packages, the ones installed by apt or the ones installed by pip or both?
[21:58] <ppf> both, in general
[21:58] <dury> right
[21:59] <dury> need to go guys... tired :-) all the best all, be back pretty soon cheeersss
[22:05] <Colombo> I can tell tar to list files from archive.
[22:05] <Colombo> However, can I tell tar to list files from folder?
[22:06] <Colombo> So I can get number of files that are being compressed, so I can create some sense of progress when using checkpoints?
[22:06] <Colombo> I would like something like --checkpoints=1 --checkpoint_message=X from N
[22:07] <KOLANICH> thank you for the answers
[22:08] <sdfs> guys is it possible to minimize all windows when three fingers on touchpad? like in macs?
[22:13] <tomreyn> Colombo: i'm not sure that i understand what exactly you are trying to achieve, but based on what i understand you want to list the (sub)directory tar is currently working on while it is working on it. you could probably use tar with -v and filter (grep) that output
[22:14] <Colombo> tomreyn: I think that ls -R is what I want. But basically, I know that tar can list all files in archive or list files while archiving.
[22:14] <Colombo> tomreyn: both are however useless when you want to show how many files are left to be compressed.
[22:15] <Colombo> tomreyn: so first I do ls -R | wc -l to get number of files
[22:16] <Colombo> and than in tar, there is --checkpont=i (every i files) and then you another one which is --checkpoint-action="echo %u" which will print the number of checkpoint.
[22:16] <OerHeks>  tar --list --verbose --file=<name>.tar <foldername>
[22:16] <Colombo> So if i is set to one, it will print after every file.
[22:17] <Colombo> If I know total number of files, this seems to me as nice feature that would inform you how many files are left to be compressed.
[22:18] <Colombo> OerHeks: nope, read again what I want.
[22:19] <tomreyn> Colombo: so you want to display live how many files are left to be compressed, ok.
[22:19] <tomreyn> Colombo: i guess your approach can work for that
[22:20] <brandor5> hello everyone: I'm trying to use a local mirror in a preseed and it's failing... looking at /var/log/syslog on the system that's trying to install it looks like it's still trying to use an external mirror... Here is the section in my preseed that I have set for using the mirror (http://pastebin.com/ZU5TBhrS). any ideas on why it's not working?
[22:20] <tomreyn> Colombo: ...although not using "ls -R | wc -l". instead, use find
[22:21] <ppf> Colombo: you can run tar with --totals=signal
[22:21] <ppf> when you then send signal to the running tar, it'll dump statistics
[22:21] <ppf> kinda like with dd
[22:22] <turista> hello every1, did anyone here play mule in ubuntu?¿ cuz I "did install java" and the game just can't run
[22:22] <turista> it says something like "java" can't be find in the 'bin' folder or something alike
[22:22] <k1l_> turista: what did you install? and how?
[22:23] <turista> I did install firstly the openjdk 8 and the game just didn't run
[22:24] <turista> I did use chmod and these stuff, later I download the java package from the website (but not the rpm), and did follow the procedures on it, the instructions!
[22:24] <Colombo> ppf: true, thanks. Can I modify it? Totals is nice, but I would like to print the total number of gigs as well.
[22:25] <OerHeks> turista, try to set the correct java with 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[22:25] <turista> ./mule.sh: 11: ./mule.sh: /bin/java: not found
[22:25] <wedgie> sounds like a crappy script problem, not a java problem
[22:26] <nacc> java is usually /usr/bin/java, sounds like a bad script
[22:26] <wedgie> turista: the installer is looking in the wrong place for the java executable
[22:26] <wedgie> or whatever that script is
[22:26] <ppf> Colombo: divide the number of bytes by 1e9?
[22:26] <turista> should I paste the script?¿ wich's the link for pasting stuff
[22:27] <ppf> i don't think tar offers formatting settings. you'll have to parse it if you want to automate this
[22:27] <Colombo> thanks ppf and tomreyn
[22:28] <turista> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24003544/
[22:28] <OerHeks> java-6-sun is dead.
[22:28] <turista> dang
[22:29] <turista> how am I suppose to play the game, gosh
[22:29] <tomreyn> both dead and rotten by now
[22:29] <nacc> but even so, seems like your JAVA_HOME is set to a bad (empty?) value?
[22:29] <nacc> turista: --^
[22:29] <turista> I guess these ppl should make an update
[22:32] <NLPozen> Ubuntu - I scratched mine
[22:32] <NLPozen> .ping
[22:33] <turista> these ppl is disgusting, I'll have to use that java 6; but still so, is it possible if I try to work this script by myself?¿ :-P
[22:34] <turista> or will it be uncompatible anyway?¿
[22:34] <OerHeks> turista, set java as i posted, and edit that script with the exact java location? might work
[22:34] <OerHeks> java 8 should be backwards compatible AFAIK
[22:34] <wedgie> turista: just delete everything but lines 1, 2, and 11, and replace $JP with the actual path to your java location (find with ''command -v java'')
[22:35] <OerHeks> oh, wedgie answer is better ;-)
[22:41] <Jack3k3> i was using remote desktop(on a windows machine) to remote into my virtualbox of ubuntu but its very slow, was going to install a rdp or vnc directly in the ubuntu virtualbox to try, was wondering what people normally use that is fast/nonlaggy?
[22:41] <Jack3k3> I heard some good things about tightvnc and freenx
[22:41] <turista> gosh I did launch the game but, it crashes later >_<
[22:42] <turista> is there a way to update the video driver?¿
[22:42] <pavlos> Jack3k3, I use nomachine to access linux/win servers
[22:43] <Jack3k3> pavlos, nomachine is the proprietary freenx yea?
[22:43] <Jack3k3> any reason that differentiates it from say tightvnc?
[22:44] <pavlos> Jack3k3, idk ... there are free clients for linux/win, it is quite responsive
[22:44] <Jack3k3> all i care about really is speed and usability so if thats good, il go for it
[22:44] <Jack3k3> cool
[22:45] <hanshenrik__> i have a ubuntu 16.04, and i can't ssh login to root, not sure why
[22:45] <kaosine> ok stupid question, is there a iso that can fit on a 700mb cd? I'm trying to create one to test some old hardware and I've run into a snag on that end. I also don't have the money to try and find something larger....
[22:45] <hanshenrik__> i installed my public key in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys , in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, it says PermitRootLogin prohibit-password
[22:45] <turista> an old version then update?¿
[22:45] <wedgie> hanshenrik__: by default the root account is disabled on ubuntu. Also, by default, the sshd config will not allow root login via ssh
[22:46] <wedgie> hanshenrik__: in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys?
[22:46] <k1l_> hanshenrik__: you dont login to root on ubuntu. and never per ssh
[22:46] <OerHeks> set PermitRootLogin yes in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[22:46] <wedgie> OerHeks: no, what he has should work
[22:46] <OerHeks> oops, missed that
[22:46] <x-fak> hi
[22:47] <wedgie> hanshenrik__: check the permissions on the .ssh dir and authorized_keys file. They should be 700 and 600, respectively
[22:47] <x-fak> do you know a tool to find only readable strings into a binary file?
[22:47] <wedgie> hanshenrik__: also, i trust that you restarted the ssh service after you changed the config
[22:47] <hanshenrik__> OerHeks, actually, i believe if its "PermitRootLogin prohibit-password", it wont allow root to login by password, but will allow root to login by an authorized ssh host key
[22:47] <hanshenrik__> OerHeks, if it's "PermitRootLogin no" though, yeah, it won't allow root login via ssh
[22:48] <OerHeks> hanshenrik__, correct
[22:48] <hanshenrik__> wedgie, well, i did service ssh reload
[22:48] <Colombo> wut, tars --checkpoint is total bullshit
[22:48] <hanshenrik__> what the heck
[22:49] <hanshenrik__> wedgie, doing "root@honningas:/temp# namei -l ~/.ssh/authorized_keys | pastebinit
[22:49] <hanshenrik__> " , i got http://paste.ubuntu.com/24003646/
[22:49] <bazhang> Colombo, no cursing here
[22:49] <hanshenrik__> apparently, ~  does not translate to root's home folder
[22:49] <hanshenrik__> o.0
[22:50] <hanshenrik__> that explains it
[22:50] <hanshenrik__> i installed the public key using ~
[22:50] <wedgie> weird.
[22:50] <hanshenrik__> but apparently, that does not translate to /root
[22:51] <hanshenrik__> ... is that normal in ubuntu?
[22:51] <hanshenrik__> i come from debian, and i've never seen ~ doing that
[22:51] <nacc> hanshenrik__: how did you become root?
[22:51] <wedgie> well, the namei command is new to me, but usually ~ will be the current user's home directory. If you're doing some sudo funkyness sometimes it is not
[22:51] <hanshenrik__> it was either su or sudo -s
[22:52] <OerHeks> hanshenrik__, ~/ would be /home/$USER/
[22:52] <nacc> hanshenrik__: it matters which one
[22:52] <Colombo> bazhang: sorry
[22:52] <hanshenrik__> ok, i just checked, i used `sudo -s`
[22:52] <tomreyn> x-fak: strings :)
[22:52] <nacc> hanshenrik__: you want -H i believe
[22:52] <nacc> hanshenrik__: so just a misuse of sudo
[22:52] <x-fak> tomreyn , which argument can filter only the readable strings?
[22:53] <wedgie> sudo -s gets me /root as ~ on my system *shrug*
[22:53] <tomreyn> x-fak: define "readable"
[22:53] <k1l_> hanshenrik__: dont use su.
[22:53] <hanshenrik__> nacc, oh ok, i see. in debian, sudo -s  gets me /root
[22:53] <hanshenrik__> (in debian 8 and debian 9)
[22:53] <k1l_> hanshenrik__: ubuntu is build around sudo.
[22:53] <x-fak> tomreyn , readable for me means, only alphabetic or alphanumeric, no special chars
[22:53] <Colombo> anyone knows what actually the tar's checkpoint does? It doesn't seem like it counts files.
[22:54] <wedgie> "display progress messages every NUMBERth record (default 10)"
[22:54] <hanshenrik__> wedgie, ps, `namei -l` is very useful for debugging permission issues ^^
[22:54] <wedgie> Colombo: what is it that you're trying to accomplish
[22:55] <Colombo> wedgie: seriously, I can read the damn documentation
[22:55] <Colombo> wedgie: copying stuff from doc is not helpful.
[22:55] <tomreyn> x-fak: is "strings" without extra arguments not doing what you expect then?
[22:55] <bazhang> Colombo, we have asked you to not curse here
[22:55] <Colombo> wedgie: Interpreting, maybe, but this is not what have YOU done...
[22:55] <Colombo> bazhang: ah, sorry, don't know what everything is considered "curse" here.
[22:56] <Colombo> wedgie: this is answer I wanted: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/153242/in-which-units-does-tar-checkpoint-measure
[22:56] <tomreyn> x-fak: you can filter its output more by piping into grep
 x-fak: is "strings" without extra arguments not doing what you expect then? <-nop
[23:00] <nplus> Any recommendations for joining a ubuntu server to an active directory domain? I've used BeyondTrust (formerly LikewiseOpen) in the past with succes
[23:01] <hanshenrik__> active directory, is that the MS Windows "shared folders" thing?
[23:01] <tomreyn> x-fak: strings /path/to/somebinaryfile | grep -E '^[[:alnum:]]+$'
[23:01] <x-fak> tomreyn , thank
[23:02] <nplus> hanshenrik__: kinda sorta - active directory is the authentication backend for windows, kinda like LDAP (I think)
[23:02] <tomreyn> x-fak: this will only allow sequences of alphanumeric characerts, no blank space, no padding, nothing else.
[23:02] <hanshenrik__> after explicitly installing the public key in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys  instead of ~/.ssh/authorized_keys , login works as expected :)
[23:03] <x-fak> tomreyn , yes that's what it should do
[23:03] <MSDOS6> hi
[23:03] <MSDOS6> can i upgrade this to ubuntu? https://i.imgur.com/COJLEgG
[23:04] <hanshenrik__> haha what is that?
[23:04] <hanshenrik__> Windows 3.1?
[23:04] <MSDOS6> windows for workgroups 3.11
[23:04] <nplus> ultimately what I'm looking for is central user/group management. we have a bunch of windows & ubuntu servers, a single account is desirable
[23:04] <tomreyn> MSDOS6: this is for ubuntu support, not for trolling. if you're looking for a social chat, try #ubuntu-offtopic.
[23:05] <MSDOS6> you guys are no fun
[23:05] <hanshenrik__> MSDOS6, i just googled it, that's a windows 3.1 edition indeed, awesome, how did you get it online? o.0
[23:05] <hanshenrik__> you should probably take it to #anime or something tho, not #ubuntu
[23:06] <nplus> hanshenrik__: he's gone
[23:06] <hanshenrik__> ohk
[23:06] <OerHeks> there is a zx-81 webserver too, somewhere... lolz
[23:07] <kunji> nplus: I think at work the IT uses Active Directory across all our systems (Windows and Ubuntu mostly, some Macs), unfortunately I don't know how they set it up.
[23:08] <kunji> nplus: In the context of a domain controller.
[23:11] <kunji> nplus: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/sssd-ad.html  https://blog.netnerds.net/2016/04/joining-ubuntu-to-an-active-directory-domain/
[23:12] <nplus> I have a active directory / domain controller already. It just seems like getting an ubuntu server joined to the domain (for auth) is one of those things with a bunch of options.. winbind + samba, or SSSD, or BeyondTrust
[23:12] <kunji> nplus: Yes, that guide assumes you already have the domain controller setup
[23:15] <KOLANICH> Can anyone install python3-zope.interface and check if pip would work?
[23:15] <nplus> kunji: ok thanks
[23:15] <nplus> just gotta pick my poison I guess lol
[23:16] <OerHeks> !info python3-zope.interface
[23:16] <OerHeks> it is in our repos
[23:18] <kunji> nplus: The second link suggests that SSSD is the modern poison of choice, good luck, and I'll assume you have backups :P
[23:19] <nplus> kunji: thanks! still reading away here :)
[23:38] <ron____> Hello. When someone get's a chance could I get a bit of help? I'm installing Ubuntu 14.04 and I'm having trouble connecting to the internet
[23:39] <Bashing-om> ron____: Connected wired or WIFI ?
[23:39] <masite> is wine installed by default in ubuntu 16.04?
[23:40] <ron____> Bashing-om: Wired. It's not connecting to the router
[23:40] <masite> can someone please tell me
[23:41] <OerHeks> masite, wine is NEVER installed standard
[23:41] <masite> OerHeks: i just installed winetricks and playlinux, and i purged all of them. however i realized that by purging winetricks, wine got removed too
[23:41] <masite> is this detrimental in any way
[23:41] <OerHeks> masite, that is valid, as dependencie
[23:41] <masite> will my system screw up in the next boot
[23:42] <OerHeks> instll wine, then POL, if you remove POL, wine would stick AFAIK
[23:42] <masite> OerHeks: will removing wine completely from the system be detrimental in anyway?
[23:43] <Bashing-om> ron____: Ubuntu desktop install ? Is the hardware seen ' lspci | grep Ethernet ' .
[23:43] <masite> any way*
[23:43] <OerHeks> masite, i don't understand that question?
[23:44] <ron____> Bashing-om: Yes and yes.
[23:44] <masite> OerHeks: i mean, if i remove wine completely from my system, will it screw up something?
[23:44] <OerHeks> masite, no, ubuntu should work just fine.
[23:44] <masite> ok thanks
[23:44] <OerHeks> yw
[23:44] <Bashing-om> ron____: K; then next is to know if you get a IP ' ifconfig eth0 ' .
[23:46] <ron____> Bashing-om: Nope. Nothing there.  I don't have DVD.
[23:51] <Bashing-om> ron____: That says that "you" will manage networking rather than the system . is this what you want ? ( no mobile ) .
[23:51] <ron____> Bashing-om: no way hahahah. I'd much rather it be automatic
[23:51] <k1l_> Colombo: lubuntu i guess. the others are too big for cd these days
[23:52] <pavlos> Colombo, you mean something to fit in a CD? not sure
[23:52] <Bashing-om> !minimal | Colombo
[23:52] <WeiJunLi> There's a way to fix "Alert! /dev/sda1 does not exist. Dropping to shell" busybox initramfs?
[23:52] <OerHeks> Colombo, do you have a 2gb/2gb+ usb device?
[23:52] <OerHeks> that would work too
[23:53] <pavlos> Colombo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[23:53] <OerHeks> minimal has no live option
[23:54] <Bashing-om> ron____: Let;s return to network-manager then . change managed=true to false . and restart networking . see what the system says upon the restart .
[23:55] <Colombo> thanks all
[23:55] <ron____> Bashing-om: Upon restart I still don't get an ip address :(
[23:57] <Bashing-om> ron____: In the GUI , is "DHCP" set to auto ?
[23:59] <ron____> Bashing-om: Network Connections gui? Yes. Under IPv4 Settings I have Method set to Automatic (DHCP). I have a couple additional DNS servers that I added to try to help connect, too. Everything else is blank there


[00:18] <bri-h> Hi everyone.  I just got a chance to update - it's been a few days since the last one.  Glad to see the issue with the minimize, maximize, and close buttons is fixed but now they're in slightly strange places.  Anyone else noticed it?
[00:19] <crdlb> bri-h: what version is your compiz-gnome package?
[00:21] <bri-h> It just updated 1:0.7.6-0ubuntu2
[00:24] <bri-h> the last one didn't have those buttons at all and the title bar on the window was always cut off too.  It is at least better now.  The only issue is that the close button isn't exactly in the corner.  it's offset by about a button width.  Then there's also about a button width between the minimize and maximize button.
[00:24] <crdlb> it's fixed in latest git of gtk-window-decorator
[00:24] <crdlb> ubuntu2 should have a patch for it, but it may be broken or something
[00:27] <bri-h> Pretty minor - sounds like I should give it another version update before reporting a bug?
[00:28] <crdlb> bri-h: yes, it's definitely fixed upstream :)
[00:30] <bri-h> Thanks for the reassurance - Intrepid's working wonderfully for me so far - any bugs I've found have been very minor
[00:51] <StaffPC> alpha 1 available yet?
[00:56] <darthanubis> google?
[01:16] <StaffPC> can alpha one be downloaded at this time?
[03:05] <Baron1984> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5194590#post5194590
[15:25] <aldarsior> hello...
[15:26] <aldarsior> if I recently ran update-manager -d then I'm running ubuntu+1, right?
[15:26] <Pici> aldarsior: What does lsb_release -a say?
[15:26] <mvo> aldarsior: did it work? the upgrade to intrepid is currently very experimental
[15:27] <aldarsior> Release:	8.04.1
[15:27] <mvo> (intrepid is in very early development still)
[15:27] <aldarsior> mvo: guess not...
[16:22] <_anna> Was Alpha 1 delayed?
[16:22] <_anna> (hi)
[16:22] <Pici> yes
[16:22] <_anna> is a new time clear already?
[16:28] <_anna> not, is there any problem?
[16:28] <Pici> _anna: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-June/000431.html
[16:29] <_anna> Thanks a lot, that clarifies. I was asking, because I did an upgrade yesterday and it went fine.
[16:30] <_anna> Only that it looks like KDE3 programs like kmail and digikam are conflicted with
[16:30] <_anna> I think I found out that kdebase-kio-plugins is the culprit.
[16:31] <_anna> But seeing that Alpha 1 is not ready, I can understand that it takes some more compilation until kdebase for 3 and 4 are ready.
[16:32] <_anna> Thx for the good work, and take your time. :-)
[16:32] <stemount^> :)
[20:49] <Skiessi> !info libsasl2-2
[20:56] <Skiessi> !info libfftw3-dev
[23:20] <hmuller> Where should documentation suggestions for Intrepid be forwarded?


[01:02] <cyberanger> aeden__d: Everything working out?
[01:23] <aeden__d> kinda
[01:29] <aeden__d> I tried to connect from work but it kept timing out
[01:31] <aeden__d> what is weird is at home when the phone in on 4g it connects. away from home it times out
[01:51] <cyberanger> Hrm
[01:52] <aeden__d> might be a signal strength issue
[01:54] <aeden__d> but I'm not sure. 2 bars on LTE works at home but the same timeouts away from home
[01:54] <aeden__d> Ad_1974@
[01:54] <aeden__d> crap, that was very stupid
[01:55] <aeden__d> grrr, multiple screens
[01:55] <aeden__d> is there anyway I can scrub that text from all existence??
[02:20] <cyberanger> not really


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[17:03] <SpamapS> ahhh, the hum of UDS
[17:03] <SpamapS> o/
[17:05] <SpamapS> pong
[17:05] <SpamapS> .org backslash foo
[17:05] <smoser> hello, mr SpamapS
[17:07] <achuni> aha
[17:09] <SpamapS> what is your launchpad username? You need to be in ~ubuntu-etherpad
[17:10] <geofft> is there a link to a good technical description of juju for those of us who haven't been paying attention?
[17:10] <geofft> I'm afraid "DevOps distilled" just confuses me more
[17:10] <SpamapS> I believe archive refresh frequency was increased during the P cycle
[17:12] <SpamapS> The Packages file could be versioned, and the Release file would only point to one version that is already known to exist
[17:13] <SpamapS> Release file contains hashes for Packages.gz , Packages.gz and Release are not updated at the exact same time.
[17:16] <med_> geofft, https://juju.ubuntu.com/   Juju provides service orchestration.
[17:16] <med_> geofft, you could possibly ask for more tech info in #juju-dev
[17:16] <med_> https://juju.ubuntu.com/Documentation
[17:17] <med_> https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/faq.html
[17:18] <geofft> med_: the Documentation page is helping a bit, thanks.
[17:19] <SpamapS> $ wc -l /var/lib/apt/lists/mirrors.kernel.org_ubuntu_dists_precise_Release
[17:19] <med_> geofft, also, feel free to ask those type of questions on #ubuntu-server. I probably should have referenced it first.
[17:19] <SpamapS> 492 /var/lib/apt/lists/mirrors.kernel.org_ubuntu_dists_precise_Release
[17:22] <SpamapS> This problem presents itself in web development as well. Think of the network of Ubuntu mirrors as a CDN .. when yahoo wants to update an image, they do so by appending a query string to the URL which forces CDN caches to re-fetch it from origin...
[17:25] <SpamapS> the format on the archive may not need to change
[17:25] <SpamapS> o/
[17:25] <SpamapS> NO
[17:25] <SpamapS>  077178d834ac0195a9141ed0aa8568f684776dc57d33edf3e6b38c9a2543f256          1677114 main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
[17:26] <SpamapS> can become $MIRROR/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz?hash=077178d834ac0195a9141ed0aa8568f684776dc57d33edf3e6b38c9a2543f256
[17:26] <SpamapS> o/
[17:26] <SpamapS> o/
[17:26] <SpamapS> o/
[17:26] <SpamapS> o/
[17:26] <SpamapS> ^^
[17:26] <SpamapS> ^^
[17:26] <smoser> reading now dummy
[17:26] <smoser> :)
[17:26]  * SpamapS takes a deep breath
[17:27] <SpamapS> Sorry I had a local interruption when you guys responded
[17:27] <SpamapS> ?
[17:27] <rbasak> So we would add a new by-hash/07717...256 symlink which points to the correct versioned Packages.gz file. That's all.
[17:27] <SpamapS> why do we need a new file?
[17:28] <SpamapS> It does mean you may still get a fail, but you just need to fetch again.
[17:29] <SpamapS> its not dynamic respondse
[17:29] <SpamapS> its just avoiding caching the wrong file
[17:32] <SpamapS> yes its a much tinier window though
[17:34] <smoser> SpamapS, on a very dumb object store it is different.
[17:35] <SpamapS> smoser: I'm only avoiding problms in the intermediate caches. Are you saying S3 would interpret the query string to mean something?
[17:35] <smoser> as its a different path. you're suggesting that the web service will know to cut off ?.*. but thats an assumption (i'm not sure if it is true with s3 or not)
[17:36] <SpamapS> smoser: understood, they may just make that a static lookup and not chop it off.
[17:37] <smoser> s3 does seem to chop ?.* off
[17:38] <SpamapS> rbasak: I made that assertion incorrectly btw, pdiff doesn't solve the problem :-/
[17:43] <SpamapS> are there issues w/ symlinks in S3?
[17:44] <tumbleweed> presumably copies aren't a problem
[17:44] <smoser> there are no symlinks in s3.
[17:44] <smoser> you just have to load additional files.
[17:44] <tumbleweed> we're only talking about symlinks for Packages  files...
[17:44] <SpamapS> right ok so its just a second stored copy
[17:44] <smoser> right.
[17:48] <SpamapS> 6 minutes. Actions?
[17:51] <SpamapS> I'd suggest moving those Actions to the top of the etherpad, hard to find in there
[17:51]  * SpamapS goes afk
[18:04] <xnox> [TOPIC] Plans for Python 3.3 (and 3.4) availability
[18:04] <xnox> Plans for Python 3.3 (and 3.4) availability
[18:04] <xnox> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/meeting/20416/foundations-q-python33/
[18:22] <xnox> anyone knows where is the link to Barry's way of building python2 & python3 packages from the same debian source package?
[18:23] <jtaylor> http://wiki.debian.org/Python/LibraryStyleGuide probably
[18:25] <xnox> jtaylor: thanks a lot
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[19:01] <brendand> hi!
[19:01] <timchen119> o/
[19:02] <josephliu> o/
[19:10] <brendand> o/
[19:11] <brendand> it's worth pointing out that we do test the *reader*, just not with the specific mmc format
[19:13] <brendand> how often do we see *only* mmc cards not working?
[19:26] <brendand> also, does it achieve 3.0 speeds
[19:26] <brendand> ?
[19:41] <brendand> you don't need to drop them to test that
[19:43] <roadmr_uds> brendand: the synthesizing event is a good proposal :)
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[22:03] <zyga> hello
[22:03] <ppetraki> hi
[22:03] <spineau> hello !
[22:06] <SpamapS> o/
[22:18] <zyga> hey cr3!
[22:20] <ppetraki> o/
[22:21] <roadmr_uds> zyga, ppetraki : got questions or comments?
[22:21] <ppetraki> roadmr_uds, ny, thanks
[22:22] <roadmr_uds> do let me know if there are questions or comments so I can alert people here
[22:22] <zyga> I'm interested to hear more about what's described, are there any slides too?
[22:23] <roadmr_uds> zyga: yes, cgregan has slides
[22:23] <zyga> I have one general comment but that's something that can happen after the session: I strongly believe that checkbox and lava should be one project, one strong libaray of tools that don't need to duplicate internals, but that's not the topic of this session
[22:23] <zyga> s/libary/library/
[22:23] <ppetraki> I'm still on the fence as to how much either project offers in addition to autotest
[22:23] <roadmr_uds> zyga: exactly :) we'll mention that in a moment
[22:25] <roadmr_uds> zyga, ppetraki : for the moment you can look at this, it's the basics of the architecture (though cgregan's slides are nicer)
[22:25] <roadmr_uds> http://people.canonical.com/~cr3/checkbox-core/submit.html
[22:25] <ppetraki> as an integrator, you'll want to be able to leverage existing "batteries included" frameworks like autotest and  LTP, and then focus on my custom product.
[22:32] <zyga> cr3: lava has the same problem
[22:34] <roadmr_uds> zyga: grown too complex and people don't find it easy to contribute?
[22:34] <zyga> roadmr_uds, no, actually, started too specific and hard for non-linaro to consume
[22:34] <zyga> roadmr_uds, it's getting community (yay) slowly
[22:35] <zyga> roadmr_uds, but I always felt that we should put equal effort on random developers using it and being interested and special custom cases needed for linaro
[22:35] <zyga> even if that costs us tons of time (like 50%)
[22:36] <zyga> and non arm support (as we currently just start to get x86 support via community contributions)
[22:36] <zyga> roadmr_uds, we started a process to simplify a few things in lava for both users and potential contributors alike
[22:36] <ppetraki> I wish QA folks would blog their tricky feats more, its a bit of an art to harness something and not create massive amounts of new code, that's just as complicated as the software you're trying to test.
[22:37] <zyga> yeah, blogging is usef, but then again, when you have a really cool and useful product others do that for you
[22:37] <zyga> we're just not there yet
[22:37] <zyga> it's not like I need to read blog posts about github to know it's useful or how to use it
[22:42] <zyga> to the speaker: lava had similar concerns
[22:42] <zyga> for test developers
[22:42] <zyga> and integrators
[22:42] <zyga> that were running tests on their machine
[22:42] <zyga> and did not want to hang the kernel on purpose
[22:42] <zyga> like powe management tests
[22:43] <zyga> so we were considering adding a flag that would mark a test as unsafe
[22:43] <zyga> (in the test meta data)
[22:43] <ppetraki> fwts has a sane test case organization
[22:43] <zyga> so running on my workstation, I would not easily just run certain tests while exploring
[22:43] <zyga> what is fwts?
[22:43] <ppetraki> ACPI focused test suite
[22:44] <zyga> (lava considers tests a free market, there is no taxonomy there, test is just a brand, you install it by name and then you can run it)
[22:44] <spineau> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/fwts
[22:45] <ppetraki> might be a nice use case for cb-core to harness fwts
[22:46] <roadmr_uds> ppetraki: checkbox already uses fwts for some tests
[22:48]  * zyga is here ;-)
[22:50] <zyga> (the dispatcher is now slowly being integrated in the lava-core)
[22:50] <zyga> but essentially yes, it's one thing that sits next to your devices
[22:50] <zyga> maas is interesting, I feel that lava could benefit form that as we essentially need to do maas for arm dev boards today
[22:51] <zyga> (sadly arm dev kits are not server grade hardware that was designed for this)
[22:54] <zyga> cr3: do you have anything that looks at the overall tests plan before it even allocates the hardware, to check if it makes sense?
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[22:55] <zyga> especially if you have many-machine tests (I'm not sure as I got confused by the discussion)
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[22:58] <zyga> cr3: do you have a time to chat today?
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[23:00] <ppetraki> thanks guys
[23:01] <roadmr_uds> zyga: I'll tell him so he can try to find you (cr3, that is) heh
[23:01] <roadmr_uds> bye folks!
[23:01] <zyga> roadmr_uds, thanks
[23:01] <spineau> bye
[23:01] <zyga> I can hear you :
[23:02] <zyga> it's not late, I just changed the timezone and I pretend it's early
[23:02] <zyga> :)
[23:02] <zyga> ok
[23:02] <zyga> sure, I just want a quick chat
[23:02] <zyga> but it can be anytime
[23:02] <zyga> just prefer early in the week
[23:02] <zyga> as it can spawn more discussion later
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