[01:24] <user|97> I have lost operations in 3 home linux Kubuntu and all say the same thing
[01:25] <user|97> something is lost in using the discover or software available
[01:25] <Loki56> what are you trying to do?
[01:28] <user|97> just tried to reinstall the laptops and one desktop everything goes in well no problems until I try to bring in additions for the  software and it prints on the base of the screen something about a security failure,  I'm at a loss of even which way to step or even ask a good question.
[01:29] <Loki56> ok. what specifically did the Error say?
[01:29] <Loki56> Did you turn off secure boot in the Mobo?
[01:29] <user|97> Ok, hang on and I"ll try and type it out
[01:32] <user|97> E:  The repository 'http:security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu groovy-security Release' no longer has a release file.
[01:33] <Loki56> Ubuntu 20.10?
[01:34] <user|97> followed with: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default"
[01:34] <user|97> there are two more lines if you need them
[01:35] <Loki56> Right,... so are you using Ubuntu 20.10?
[01:35] <Loki56> There is a reason why I'm asking this
[01:36] <user|97> I have tried 20.10, 21 and the new 22 all fail
[01:36] <Loki56> 22.04?
[01:36] <Loki56> Well,.. "Ubuntu 20.10 (Groovy Gorilla) End of Life reached on July 22 2021"
[01:36] <user|97> this is Kubuntu I'm referring to.  I have run both
[01:37] <Loki56> okay. but still 20.10 has reached end of life
[01:37] <Loki56> 22.04 LTS is the newest
[01:37] <Loki56> well newest LTS... there is a 22.10 version. I'm using it myself on my netbook
[01:38] <Loki56> If you are trying to install the source for other versions in the software sources that's the error you're going to get
[01:38] <user|97> I've not fully tested the 22. veriation because two of my other computers came down
[01:39] <Loki56> Well,.. basically the easiest way to fix this is to update/install to the latest version LTS or non-LTS
[01:40] <Loki56> that way you have all the latest and greatest
[01:40] <user|97> what are you referring to as "software sources" I've wiped the drives out reloaded and no matter which I go to it comes up whith this failure.
[01:41] <Loki56> at what point is this error occuring?
[01:41] <Loki56> What are you trying to do?
[01:41] <user|97> I'll try that.  what is the version available presently?  I think I've got it just remind me
[01:42] <Loki56> 22.04 LTS is latest Long Term Support version. 22.10 is the latest release
[01:42] <Loki56> https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/
[01:43] <user|97> I've got it ..  I'll reset this system I'm on now and see if I'm just seeing to much smoke to find the fire.
[01:44] <Loki56> yea,.. you can't putt updates for one version on another. it doesn't work that way. If you are trying to update a specific application, you can do that via command promt
[01:45] <Loki56> Werd... I just found this... Kubuntu 20.04.5 LTS
[01:45] <Loki56> The previous Long Term Support (LTS) version of the Kubuntu operating system for desktop PCs and laptops, Kubuntu 20.04 LTS supported with security and maintenance updates, until April 2023.
[01:45] <Loki56> So I guess technically you have a few more months... but still.. might as well upgrade if you're going this far
[01:45] <user|97> If I can't get it further I'll get back with your or someone else. And I didn't try any of that. I've just been trying to get one system running right all the others are stalled with the first fault.
[01:45] <arraybolt3> Loki56: 20.04.5 != 20.10
[01:46] <arraybolt3> 20.10 is EOL, 20.04, not quite EOL yet.
[01:46] <Loki56> Well,.. you could have a bad install disc too
[01:46] <Loki56> arraybolt3, yea I seen that after... but still if he's installing from scratch, might as well upgrade now'
[01:47] <arraybolt3> user|97: What error are you getting when trying to install 22.04? Or have you tried that yet? Backing up your data and clean-installing 22.04 is probably the fastest way to fix an EOL installation.
[01:47] <Loki56> that's basically what I just told him
[01:48] <arraybolt3> Ah, sorry, missed that.
[01:54] <Loki56> arraybolt3, hey while you're here maybe try and help my issue?
[01:54] <arraybolt3> Sure, what's wrong?
[01:54] <arraybolt3> (I'm not sure I see the whole thing in my scrollback.)
[01:55] <Loki56> KDE connect.... I have a desktop (Kubuntu 22.04LTS) and a chromebook ( Kubuntu 22.10)
[01:55] <Loki56> the KDE connect version in the 22.04 LTS works flawlessly...
[01:55] <Loki56> 22.10 the slideshow buttons don't work..
[01:56] <arraybolt3> Hmm, I've never used KDE Connect before, but that sounds like a bug.
[01:56] <Loki56> can't use 22.10 in the chromebook because it has no Wayland and audio issues that have been fixed
[01:56] <Loki56> yup
[01:56] <Loki56> I'm in the middle of filing a bug,.. but anyway
[01:56] <oerheks> ah chromebook ..
[01:57] <oerheks> good luck with that
[01:57] <Loki56> I was wondering if you knew how to put the previous version that's in the 22.04 LTS into the 22.10... basically a rollback
[01:57] <Loki56> Well,. .the chrombook is up and running,.. this is just a application bug
[01:57] <arraybolt3> Technically you can do that, do keep in mind it's not exactly recommended, but it's possible.
[01:58] <arraybolt3> I think you can just install the older package from 22.04 and then hold it so it doesn't get updates.
[01:58] <Loki56> Well,. If I was trying to jam a newer version in I'd see it might be a problem... but I'm basically rolling it back
[01:58] <Loki56> yep,.. that's what I'm trying to do, but not sure how to do it.
[01:58] <arraybolt3> Yeah. And kdeconnect is its own package, so it hopefully won't put too much at risk. It may throw a wrench in the works when you go to upgrade later, but hopefully you can get around it.
[01:59] <arraybolt3> So first thing would be to uninstall the version you have now, "sudo apt purge kdeconnect".
[01:59] <Loki56> Yup
[01:59] <arraybolt3> (Do NOT run autoremove after this.)
[01:59] <arraybolt3> Then... lemme find the download link for the old version...
[01:59] <Loki56> I can just uninstall via discovery too
[01:59] <arraybolt3> (It will be on Canonical's Launchpad, just takes a bit to dig it up.)
[01:59] <Loki56> that's what I've been trying to find...
[02:00] <Loki56> ohh, let me get you the version that I know works on my desktop
[02:00] <arraybolt3> Loki56: That might be helpful. I found the link for the Jammy version, though.
[02:00] <Loki56> 21.12.3
[02:01] <arraybolt3> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect/21.12.3-0ubuntu1/+build/23213332 <-- There will be three files under the "Built files" segment, you need the bottom two.
[02:01] <arraybolt3> ^ that is version 21.12.3.
[02:01] <Loki56> sweet
[02:01] <Loki56> Let me delete the current
[02:01] <Loki56> how do I install those files tho?
[02:01] <arraybolt3> OK, download those, then before installing them, do "sudo apt purge nautilus-kdeconnect".
[02:01] <Loki56> ok
[02:02] <arraybolt3> Next, open a terminal in the folder with the two files, and do "sudo apt install ./kdeconnect_21.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb".
[02:02] <arraybolt3> Then "sudo apt install ./nautilus-kdeconnect_21.12.3-0ubuntu1_all.deb".
[02:02] <Loki56> connect/indicator?
[02:03] <arraybolt3> Pardon?
[02:03] <Loki56> those the two files?
[02:03] <arraybolt3> The two files are the kdeconnect and nautilus-kdeconnect files.
[02:03] <arraybolt3> I don't see a file named "indicator" anywhere here.
[02:04] <Loki56> hang on
[02:04] <Loki56> ase shit
[02:04] <Loki56> awe*
[02:04] <arraybolt3> As long as you open the terminal in the correct folder, the two "sudo apt install" commands ought to work if you just paste them verbatim.
[02:04] <Loki56> that link is on my main
[02:05] <Loki56> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect/21.12.3-0ubuntu1/+build/23213332
[02:07] <Loki56> there are 3 to download which 2 do I need again?
[02:07] <arraybolt3> The bottom two.
[02:09] <arraybolt3> Once you have the files installed, then you should be able to do "sudo apt-mark hold kdeconnect && sudo apt-mark hold nautilus-kdeconnect" and that should prevent them from updating anymore.
[02:09] <Loki56> hang on.. lol
[02:09] <Loki56> chromebook
[02:09] <Loki56> hampster on the wheel can only go so fast
[02:10] <arraybolt3> lol no problem
[02:12] <Loki_Chromebook> Reading package lists... Done
[02:12] <Loki_Chromebook> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:12] <Loki_Chromebook> Reading state information... Done
[02:12] <Loki_Chromebook> Note, selecting 'nautilus-kdeconnect' instead of '/home/loki/Desktop/1/nautilus-kdeconnect_21.12.3-0ubuntu1_all.deb'
[02:12] <Loki_Chromebook> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[02:12] <Loki_Chromebook> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[02:12] <arraybolt3> Loki_Chromebook: You may want to use a pastebin for that, I can't see anything after the bot muted you.
[02:12] <arraybolt3> !paste
[02:12] <arraybolt3> (The bot unmutes you after 60 seconds, sorry for the inconvenience.)
[02:14] <Loki_back> ?
[02:14] <Loki_Chromebook> what the hell
[02:14] <Loki_Chromebook> lol
[02:15] <arraybolt3> Sometimes the channel has a lot of people in it, and a whole bunch of lines all at once can be disruptive.
[02:15] <Loki_Chromebook> https://hastebin.com/nicicoxige.apache
[02:15] <arraybolt3> So there's a bot in here that will mute people who paste a whole bunch into the channel in order to keep that from messing everyone up (also comes in handy when someone starts intentionally overloading the channel to mess with other people). All too often it ends up messing with support sessions like this, sadly.
[02:16] <Loki_Chromebook> that link work?
[02:16] <arraybolt3> Trying...
[02:16] <arraybolt3> Shoot. 22.10 is incompatible with the version of KDE Connect from 22.04.
[02:16] <Loki_Chromebook> y?
[02:17] <arraybolt3> Dunno. Something about the Nautilus software apparently messes with nautilus-kdeconnect, and so the maintainers added a line in the packaging to warn "don't let these two packages be installed on the same system at the same time".
[02:17] <arraybolt3> Which apt is now running into and throwing a fit about.
[02:18]  * arraybolt3 finds out what nautilus-kdeconnect even does
[02:18] <arraybolt3> It says it lets you send files directly to a device from within Nautilus. If you can live without that, you might be able to omit nautilus-kdeconnect.
[02:20] <Loki_back> well
[02:20] <Loki_back> ironically
[02:20] <Loki_back> 21.12.3 installde
[02:20] <Loki_back> installed
[02:20] <Loki_back> and promptly informed me there is an update
[02:21] <arraybolt3> OK, now use "apt-mark hold kdeconnect".
[02:21] <arraybolt3> (er, sudo apt-mark hold kdeconnect)
[02:21] <Loki_back> well
[02:21] <arraybolt3> That will tell it "don't ever upgrade this".
[02:21] <Loki_back> it has the same issue as before
[02:21] <arraybolt3> :(
[02:22] <arraybolt3> Then I'm  not sure what to do from there.
[02:22] <Loki_back> me either
[02:24] <Loki_back> I'm checking the keyboard model
[02:24] <Loki_back> but prolly not it
[02:30] <Loki_back> well mouse control works
[02:31] <Loki_back> meh,. I'll use that and send a bug report in
[02:43] <Loki_back> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=462655
[02:43] -ubottu:#kubuntu- KDE bug 462655 in kdeconnect "KDE Connect: Slideshow 'Forward' and 'Back' buttons don't passthrough on KDE connect Ver. 22.08.2-0ubuntu1" [Normal, Unconfirmed]
[02:43] <Loki_back> Well It's reported
[03:00] <Loki_back> arraybolt3 still here?
[03:11] <Loki_back> meh,.. tried installing the latest version... same thing
 What could be possible cons of having kernel 6.0.9 on Kubuntu 22.04 knowing it uses LTS kernel 5.15 ?
[03:44] <glagnar> Those that use Kubuntu, those that file bug reports, and any developers that happen to be here, I just want to give my thanks for the incredible work. I've been using Kubuntu since 2017 and the *only* issues I've ever had with it are Nvidia-related. That's my own fault.
 Need help.  I have connected my nvidia hdmi port to a soundbar and the display port to a monitor.  The monitor works perfectly but no sound from the hdmi port.  Is there a way to fix it?    I have selected the HDMI port as the sound output device but still no sound. : https://irc-attachments.kde.org/19253b0b/file_61949.jpg
 I am using 22.10 version of Kubuntu.
[04:15] <glagnar> Not the world's greatest solution but if your motherboard supports optical audio I'd use that, assuming it works.
 No optical unfortunately
[04:16] <glagnar> Yeah, it's becoming less popular as motherboards get...weirder.
 Can i connect the USB port to the soundbar?  The soundbar has a USB input also?
[04:18] <glagnar> If it's cool with it, it should work. I use a Sony USB DAC via USB and it's great.
 I prefer the hdmi sound output though and would like it to work.  It works brilliantly on Windows 11.
[04:19] <glagnar> If it's just for "controlling" the sound, like on an old pair of speakers I've got on my retro desk, it won't actually transmit audio. It'll just be things like "hey, bass up" or "hey, virtual surround on".
[04:21] <glagnar> HDMI is the preferred solution. PulseAudio clearly sees it. Could it be using a format the receiving end doesn't support, and Linux is guessing/being told wrong whereas Windows somehow guesses right?
 Pulseaudio sees it.  Trying to play audio through brower and vlc and both are not working
[04:23] <glagnar> Are the applications themselves set to go to the default output? I think you can override and say "no, this program always plays video Output X no matter what".
[04:23] <glagnar> Are the applications themselves set to go to the default output? I think you can override and say "no, this program always plays audio  Output X no matter what".
[04:23] <glagnar> Whoops, this ain't Discord, I hit up to edit out of habit, sorry!
 i have set all audio to be played on this device
[04:24] <glagnar> I'd definitely try USB, which is, in the final sense of transmitting audio digitally, should be the same, sonically, as HDMI.
 yeah.
[04:25] <glagnar> I can drive my speakers through my DAC at 1 Hz. One freaking hertz. And does it work? Yep. My speaker cones gently move in and out...until the DAC says "woah woah woah, that's a sustained DC load, bye" and turns off.
[04:26] <glagnar> Point being, I'd try it at least.
 Yeah that would be my last resort.  Would love the HDMI sound playback to work.
 BEMP
 happy day . i have Avent desktop DT2111 with Kubuntu as main system on own SSD , now installing ubuntu server on its own SSD , Also been trying to load bitcoin core complete node so i can get mining in kubuntu , its runs for a few days and freezes . That`s the problem , its not the hardware as win8 and 7 run fine from their SSDs . So I wondering if connecting to my ubuntu server might help . I`m using Tor browser in bitcoin core settings
[13:41] <BluesKaj> Hi all
 Hi
 How can i choose what to upgrade and what to not upgrade with apt and discover?
[14:16] <oerheks> omar don' t do that, it could end up in broken packages.
[14:16] <oerheks> and it sounds silly, not updating keeps your system vulnerable,
 Ok
[21:31] <Eickmeyer> mmikowski: ping
[21:32] <mmikowski> Eickmeyer: Thank you
[21:32] <Eickmeyer> np


[22:17] <reisio> lmat: yeah?
[22:17] <lmat> reisio: pgrep lightdm   = 1238
[22:17] <reisio> lmat: ew
[22:17] <lmat> service lightdm status   returns the same PID.
[22:17] <reisio> maybe it's starting earlier than its deps
[22:18] <lmat> reisio: This seems reasonable.
[22:18] <lmat> reisio: Although, surely there's a mechanism to prevent that from happening?
[22:18] <reisio> lmat: upstart, theoretically :p
[22:18] <lmat> reisio: you know...it may have to do with my monitor situation...
[22:18] <reisio> lmat: check out /var/log/lightdm
[22:18] <lmat> reisio: I often change the amount and which monitors I'm using...
[22:19] <reisio> mm, wouldn't be my first guess
[22:19] <lmat> reisio: I'm using a laptop. It seems that the problem only manifests itself when I'm docked (so the laptop monitor is not being used, and two external monitors are being used).
[22:19] <lmat> reisio: Nothing interesting in lightdm.log   but there are five others ^_^
[22:20] <reisio> ohhhh
[22:20] <reisio> like maybe it's trying to show the login screen on one that doesn't exist
[22:20] <lmat> reisio: perhaps.
[22:20] <reisio> I could believe that
[22:20] <lmat> how cute, "write 35 bytes to daemon"   "Read 8 bytes from daemon"  come on!
[22:20] <reisio> that sounds super useful
[22:21] <lmat> hey!
[22:21] <lmat> x-0.log:
[22:21] <lmat> "Fatal server error: no screens found (EE) Please consult The X.Org Foundation support ...
[22:22] <lmat> it points me to /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:22] <lmat> no screens found :)
[22:22] <lmat> genius
[22:22] <lmat> oh... "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration"
[22:22] <lmat> But it must be a boot-up-time problem because when I service lightdm restart, it works just fine.
[22:23] <lmat> brb, starting my window server...
[22:25] <lmat> reisio: yo
[22:25] <smj> This one Java program is eating the whole CPU while doing absolutely nothing... I'm using OpenJDK7, should I try other JREs too?
[22:26] <reisio> smj: try turning the program off
[22:26] <reisio> lmat: yoyo
[22:26] <lmat> smj: absolutely nothing? Doesn't sound like it :P
[22:27] <smj> I've noticed that other Java programs use ridiculous amounts of CPU too
[22:28] <reisio> that's practically what 'java' means
[22:28] <lmat> smj: it's odd. I run java quite a bit and it doesn't munch up my processor.
[22:28] <lmat> smj...all the time
[22:30] <lmat> reisio: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1009612
[22:30] <lmat> resure: The last post.
[22:30] <lmat> eek...
[22:30] <lmat> I don't know if mine hands will let me type malloc!
[22:30] <reisio> lmat: on page 2?
[22:31] <lmat> reisio: no
[22:32] <lmat> reisio: sorry :( page 1 :)
[22:32] <reisio> that looks nice and hairy
[22:33] <dgyoungiii> who wants to atlk
[22:34] <Loshki> dgyoungiii: feel free to chat on #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:34] <reisio> or #ubuntu-ffotpic, as the case may be
[22:34] <neekz0r|2> thank the gods for ipmi
[22:38] <subcool> Hey is anyone familiiar with raid
[22:38] <subcool> i believe raid 0
[22:39] <lmat> subcool: That's not a question ^_^
[22:39] <subcool> im reading about it- but, there is too much to read since im in serach mode. I have two old 120gb drives that were setup with raid. Raid 0 or raid 1.
[22:40] <neekz0r> yes
[22:40] <lmat> subcool: ok :)
[22:40] <subcool> The machine died years ago, and i've been saving these two drives sicne then. They have infomratoin on it that i'd like to pull off from it
[22:40] <neekz0r> i am very familar with raid
[22:40] <neekz0r> what do you need to know?
[22:40] <subcool> Just a couple basics to ge tmyself on the path
[22:40] <lmat> subcool: Ah, so you want to install them on your new computer.
[22:40] <subcool> my thought was recover- but it appears that its a linux software raid, not a hardware raid.
[22:40] <subcool> atleast i think?
[22:40] <subcool> im going in circles ...
[22:40] <neekz0r> okay, raid0 -- fast and lots of storage space, but unrealiable, the more disks you add the faster and bigger it gets along with it's unreliablity
[22:41] <subcool> i cant remember what it is
[22:41] <neekz0r> raid1: fast reads, normal writes, reliable but half as much space
[22:41] <subcool> i just tried.. :  http://paste.kde.org/741920
[22:42] <lmat> subcool: you should probably just mount it as one, and see if the data are readable.
[22:42] <neekz0r> linux raids are (somewhat) specially formated
[22:43] <subcool> i really just want to get the info off and start fresh.
[22:43] <neekz0r> do you remember if it was raid1 or raid0?
[22:43] <subcool> no- :/
[22:43] <neekz0r> or what the total space was?
[22:43] <subcool> nope..
[22:44] <subcool> it was a long long time ago
[22:44] <neekz0r> yikes
[22:44] <subcool> yeah-
[22:44] <bekks> neekz0r: Huh?
[22:44] <subcool> i probably set it up as 0
[22:44] <subcool> but i just really dont remember
[22:47] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[22:47] <neekz0r> hmm
[22:47] <lmat> NOOO!! NOT NETSPLIT!!! AAAHHHH
[22:47] <subcool> i was going back and forth between 0 and 1, but then the Powersupply of hte box died.
[22:47] <neekz0r> what happens when you try to read the partition?
[22:47] <subcool> it cant
[22:47] <subcool> i tried opening gparted
[22:47] <bekks> neekz0r: Trying to read it in which case?
[22:47] <subcool> but- im really noob at this
[22:47] <subcool> i set this up years ago to et my foot in the door, and then my system crashed.
[22:47] <neekz0r> ie, something like fdisk
[22:47] <neekz0r> fdisk /dev/sdf
[22:47] <subcool> gparted cant read it
[22:47] <neekz0r> okay, are you sure it's a software raid?
[22:49] <neekz0r> and who exactly is having raid issues? :P
[22:49] <subcool> wtf is goign on
[22:50] <neekz0r> freenode is probably being ddosed or something
[22:50] <subcool> it coulda been a fake raid
[22:50] <subcool> i remember wanting to set it up as a hardware raid-
[22:50] <elisa87> How can I create static binary using this Makefile? Which changes should I do in this Makefile? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5656261/
[22:52] <subcool> but then when it was all set and done- it was setup as a software raid
[22:52] <subcool> or something.
[22:52] <neekz0r> elisa87: use ./configure, depends on what you are configuring but is usually --enable-static
[22:52] <subcool> i couldnt get help for it- and then the system crashed
[22:52] <_kalo_> hola, hay canal de ubuntu en castellano ??????????
[22:52] <bekks> elisa87: add -static to the cc flags.
[22:52] <subcool> neekz0r, fdisk brings me to command:
[22:52] <elisa87> bekks which line you mean and where should I exactly put the -static flag?
[22:52] <neekz0r> type p
[22:52] <Kungpung> Hello can i chat here for help?
[22:52] <bekks> elisa87: line 3
[22:52] <elisa87> bekks CC = gcc (where should I put -static?) before or after gcc ? (possibly after)
[22:52] <smj> I remember somewhere was recently mentioned some tool that allows to run programs, using only the CPU idle time
[22:52] <bekks> elisa87: Thats line 2.
[22:52] <bekks> smj: "nice"
[22:52] <smj> bekks, no.
[22:52] <elisa87> bekks CC_FLAGS = -g -fopenmp  -O2 Should I put -static after -g ?
[22:52] <bekks> elisa87: Or at the end of the line.
[22:52] <subcool> neekz0r, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5656272
[22:52] <neekz0r> okay, raid is still there so that's good
[22:55] <subcool> neekz0r, when i try to start the array with disk utility, it says components are missing?
[22:55] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[22:58] <gueriLLaPunK> uhh...whats the cmd to find out what version of ubunt you're running?
[22:59] <bekks> gueriLLaPunK: lsb_release -a
[22:59] <gueriLLaPunK> ty
[23:00] <Bauer> uys, after reboot after the last big Raring update, I couldnt boot until I switched to older kernel
[23:00] <Bauer> it is consistent, but the trace runs pretty fast and no scroll so I cant quite tell what is the source of the error, except something about 'recursive call
[23:05] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[23:05] <gueriLLaPunK> when making a new user... i put them in the user group? what about sudo group?
[23:06] <WeThePeople> you can assign a group permissions
[23:06] <th0r> gueriLLaPunK, normally no, unless you want them to have root priviliges
[23:06] <wilee-nilee> !visudo
[23:06] <Brittany> Is there any  way I can prevent these damned 'system software problem detected' messages from popping up constantly in 13.04?
[23:06] <gueriLLaPunK> i just created a user with 1000, i think. isa that enough to run sudo?
[23:06] <WeThePeople> what is a /var/crash?
[23:08] <wilee-nilee> Brittany, apport is the app, http://askubuntu.com/questions/93457/how-do-i-enable-or-disable-apport
[23:08] <__raven> i have an aopen xcube ea65 with intel 82801EB/ER Chipset - where to find drivers to display its sensors?
[23:08] <Brittany> wonderful
[23:08] <Brittany> Much love in your direction, wilee-nilee .
[23:08] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[23:09] <elisa87> bekks Thank you so much. Now it's working fine. Actually I received "kernel too old" error and I had to add -m32 flag in the same line as well CC_FLAGS = -g -fopenmp  -O2 -static -m32
[23:09] <Dr_Willis_> !sensors
[23:10] <Brittany> (Sometimes wonders if that package is accurate with my CPU since it averages around 20c)
[23:11] <elisa87> bekks do you know why I am receiving this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5656333/
[23:12] <clempe> hello I'm tried to install fancontrol but it says "no pwm-capable sensor modules installed" but i can display the temperature with sensors. Did i anything wrong or is there no support for my notebook (dell inspirion 7520)
[23:13] <bekks> elisa87: No, since I have no clue what your program does.
[23:13] <elisa87> ah i see ! I wish I knew!
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> !info gkrellm
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> clempe, ^^^
[23:14] <clempe> wilee-nilee: ?^^
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> clempe, gkrellm is a gui controller
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> temps fan speed..etc see if it works.
[23:15] <envogue> so i installed ubuntu a while ago but i dont get a dual boot option
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> envogue, Details, what type of install and what OS's?
[23:17] <monstarmikie> is there a way to prevent an mtp device from opening a window whenever it is plugged in or is turned on?
[23:18] <clempe> gkrellm: i can display my temperature but the fan is running at full speed and i tried to install fancontrol which require lm-sensors. my problem is not to display the temperatures
[23:19] <wilee-nilee> monstarmikie, settings-details-removable media, maybe
[23:20] <envogue> wilee-nilee: i installed ubuntu from an usb and i have windows 8 which works
[23:20] <clempe> wilee-nilee: i can display my temperature but the fan is running at full speed and i tried to install fancontrol which require lm-sensors. my problem is not to display the temperatures
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> envogue, Have you looked at the uefi wiki, not much general help with uefi as it a bit per manufacturer specific.
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> clempe, Not sure really as far as a complete answer.
[23:22] <WeThePeople> headphones not working in 12.04.2 x64, ive checked eveything, any ideas
[23:22] <costa_> ping
[23:28] <munzx> hi! i have just installed ubuntu 13.4 , its awesome! thnx for the good work ,,,,, but the processor fan is spinning fast and makes noise! , i had similar issue before and i fixed by installing an app which i forgot its name!!! btw , i was using mint 13 for about a year and i did not have such issue!
[23:29] <gueriLLaPunK> oh, so i installed ext2 volume manager in windows 7 so i can transfer some files, but i cant write to my ubuntu partition. windows is telling me the disk is write protected. how do i remove it?
[23:29] <bekks> gueriLLaPunK: You dont. Doing so, you will trash your filesystem.
[23:30] <Dr_Willis_> gueriLLaPunK:  ive seen windows trash ext2/3 filesystems with those tools.. best to do read only
[23:30] <gueriLLaPunK> so how do i transfer between the two file systems? :(
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> gueriLLaPunK, Not sure there is a solid app for reading ext4's from windows most have a shared ntfs
[23:30] <bekks> gueriLLaPunK: I doubt you have a ext4 fs, which will be corrupted when trying to write to it like ext2/3
[23:30] <gueriLLaPunK> i have ubuntu 13.4 installed
[23:30] <WeThePeople> headphones not working in 12.04.2 x64, ive checked everything, any ideas
[23:31] <bekks> gueriLLaPunK: Setup a shared ntfs volume.
[23:31] <gueriLLaPunK> so i need to go into ubuntu and make a shared ntfs volume?
[23:31] <bekks> gueriLLaPunK: No. You can setup a shared ntfs from windows too.
[23:32] <gueriLLaPunK> ok awesome! how do i do that? :(
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> gueriLLaPunK, If you have unallocated space windows or ubuntu can make a ntfs.
[23:32] <bekks> gueriLLaPunK: By formatting a partition as NTFS,
[23:32] <gueriLLaPunK> shoot. i used all my space to ext3/4 or whatever it is
[23:32] <gueriLLaPunK> i dont have any unallocated space
[23:33] <munzx> hi! i have just installed ubuntu 13.4 , its awesome! thnx for the good work ,,,,, but the processor fan is spinning fast and makes noise! , i had similar issue before and i fixed by installing an app which i forgot its name!!!
[23:33] <bekks> gueriLLaPunK: Then you cant setup a shared ntfs.
[23:33] <gueriLLaPunK> ok so if i reinstall ubuntu... what should i do? make ext4 for ubuntu and make a large ntfs partition?
[23:33] <wilee-nilee> gueriLLaPunK, You can resize partitions, but be aware of amounts of and partition types, in limitations.
[23:34] <bekks> You can use gparted live cd for resizing and create a NTFS partition. Be sure to backup your entire disk before.
[23:34] <gueriLLaPunK> can i just allocate a small portion of ubuntu to ext (like 4GB?
[23:34] <gueriLLaPunK> i can reinstall ubuntu
[23:34] <gueriLLaPunK> since this was a fresh install
[23:34] <bekks> gueriLLaPunK: You dont need to reinstall.
[23:34] <gueriLLaPunK> it seems easier to reinstall
[23:34] <smjc> I guess I need a quad-core for running Java stuff
[23:35] <gueriLLaPunK> i never messed with gparted
[23:35] <bekks> smjc: I doubt it.
[23:35] <bekks> smjc: There is not much software actually using more than one core.
[23:36] <harrisr> what is the webcam chat program for ubuntu calle
[23:36] <harrisr> d
[23:36] <harrisr> Dr_Willis_,
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> xchat
[23:36] <Dr_Willis_> !im
[23:36] <bekks> harrisr: There is no such program. :)
[23:36] <harrisr> i cant use my webcam to video chat
[23:36] <bekks> harrisr: So which program do you use?
[23:36] <Dr_Willis_> video chat how?
[23:37] <smjc> in htop the program had two 'lines' running at 100%... but only one core was at 100%, how does that work?
[23:37] <harrisr>  i want to video chat with my friends
[23:37] <gueriLLaPunK> but to answer my previous question... how do i write to ext with ext2fsd? i dont have permission since its write protected
[23:37] <bekks> smjc: htop needs a small amount of time to display values.
[23:37] <Dr_Willis_> harrisr:  and what app are you trying to use?
[23:37] <bekks> gueriLLaPunK: You dont. You will screw up your filesystems.
[23:38] <harrisr> i need to know the best app
[23:38] <Dr_Willis_> google voice should work.
[23:38] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[23:38] <bekks> !best | harrisr
[23:38] <OerHeks> !netsplit
[23:39] <SmallFry> anyone have any luck with cpan?
[23:39]  * SmallFry is having a bit of trouble
[23:39] <harrisr> what do you use to video chat
[23:39] <harrisr> what do you use to video chat
[23:39] <bekks> SmallFry: Which troule?
[23:39] <SmallFry> http://pastebin.com/y5QhbRAw
[23:39] <SmallFry> installing XML::Simple
[23:40] <Dr_Willis_> google voice should work. harrisr
[23:40] <SmallFry> bah, bbiab
[23:40] <SmallFry> sorry
[23:40] <bekks> harrisr: FaceTime on iPhone. :)
[23:40] <harrisr> so sudo apt-get install google voice
[23:40] <bekks> SmallFry: Which troule?
[23:40] <Prock> with out doing startx, if i just want to run one gui app by xinit application.... that works but how can i enable Alt+Right-Click to drag, or use the windows key?
[23:40] <sha1sum> Hey all... mixers are not recognizing my HDMI audio output, even though the image is fine. Switching to proprietary drivers did no good. alsamixer, however, recognizes the HDMI card and so does aplay -l
[23:41] <sha1sum> googled for the past two hours to no avail
[23:41] <Prock> netsplit aaaahhhhhh with out doing startx, if i just want to run one gui app by xinit application.... that works but how can i enable Alt+Right-Click to drag, or use the windows key?
[23:41] <Runemoro> Hi, when I do X -configure, it tells me "Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices."
[23:41] <Runemoro> How can I fix this?
[23:42] <munzx> help plz!
[23:42] <munzx> how can i reduce the fan noise?
[23:42] <mijk> hey, anyone here familiar with Ubuntu for PPC?
[23:43] <Prock> is now a bat with all the ppl leaving and joining cause of the net split, are the smart ppl on  ?
[23:43] <Prock> bad time*
[23:43] <co-loco> hi all - is there a good ppa with google-chrome?
[23:43] <sha1sum> Well, I'm here, so one of them is at least! ;)
[23:43] <Dr_Willis_> mijk:  last i used PPC linux/ubuntu - it dident work very well
[23:43] <zeep> chrome installs its own repo
[23:43] <Dr_Willis_> co-loco:  google has their own ppa/repo i belive
[23:43] <Prock> with out doing startx, if i just want to run one gui app by xinit application.... that works but how can i enable Alt+Right-Click to drag, or use the windows key?
[23:43] <zeep> co-loco, just download the file from google
[23:43] <co-loco> hi zeep - how exactly?
[23:43] <sha1sum> co-loco: the regular chrome download should work just fine.
[23:43] <mijk> Dr_Willis_, buggy?
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> good is subjective
[23:44] <zeep> co-loco, just install the deb file they provide. it does it automatically
[23:44] <Dr_Willis_> mijk:  had lots of bugs... but that was 3+ yrs ago - its not  a very maintained release
[23:44] <mijk> I see
[23:45] <mijk> I'm bored, looking to use another platform
[23:45] <Dr_Willis_> mijk:  what ppc system do you have exactly?
[23:45] <Prock> who can help with enableing Alt Click Dragging in xinit app ?????????
[23:46] <bekks> Prock: Using xinit, you have no window manager, and thus there is no dragging available.
[23:46] <mijk> Dr_Willis_, powermac g5
[23:46] <Prock> bekks, ive done it before on other distros
[23:47] <bekks> Prock: Then you had a window manager.
[23:47] <co-loco> how will updates be tracked if I manually install a .deb?
[23:47] <harrisr> i installed google-talkplugin how do i run it
[23:47] <bekks> co-loco: They wont.
[23:47] <Runemoro> Hi, when I do X -configure, it tells me "Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices."
[23:47] <Prock> there was no window manager at that time
[23:47] <Runemoro> How can I fix this?
[23:47] <Dr_Willis_> co-loco:  the google chrome deb.. enables a ppa
[23:47] <Dr_Willis_> co-loco:  its somewhat rare for debs to do that
[23:47] <co-loco> ok - then that's not the solution I'm looking for - hence I'm looking for a ppa if one exists
[23:48] <sha1sum> So you're looking for a solution to something no one else recognizes as a problem?
[23:48] <Prock> i just did xinit whatever and i could alt click drag, so how can i enable it with out a wm
[23:48] <co-loco> no - couldn't I just manually add the ppa?
[23:48] <bekks> Prock: You cant, without a wm.
[23:48] <Dr_Willis_> why do you not want to use a wm?
[23:49] <Dr_Willis_> co-loco:  you can manually add it.. the google-chrome deb enables the google ppa last i looked.
[23:49] <ghost-warrior> hi ubuntu'ers
[23:49] <Dr_Willis_> !chrome
[23:49] <Prock> so what is a wm that u cant see, no features except alt draging, dont want the title bar at all
[23:49] <co-loco> and the google chrome-deb is on google's websire, correct
[23:50] <sha1sum> Prock: you have to have a window manager if you want to be able to even switch windows or drag them... What you mean is no decorations.
[23:50] <sha1sum> Not sure that I've seen anything like that, although some of the lighter-weight WM's may be able to do that.
[23:50] <ghost-warrior> If there is a virus (like a rat) on a virtual machine of windows . Can it gain access to my HD (sorry for trolling)
[23:50] <Prock> im doing xinit vmware, no more windows
[23:51] <Dr_Willis_> ghost-warrior:  vm's normally cant access the rest of the system
[23:51] <Daemoen> ghost-warrior: depends on how it is setup, if youre using an isolated disk image, then no, if youre using a shared partition, yes.
[23:51] <at-219> split?
[23:51] <Dr_Willis_> ghost-warrior:  unless you have shares setup or other setup
[23:52] <ghost-warrior> Dr_Willis_,  I think i got it on a virtual hard disk image. The virus is in the windows activator..!
[23:52] <harrisr> is empathy a video chat
[23:52] <harrisr> !empathy
[23:53] <ghost-warrior> I'm using vm-box
[23:53] <Dr_Willis_> ghost-warrior:  windows activator? you mean some hack took to regiester windows ?
[23:53] <Prock> im using vmware 9.0.2, the latest
[23:53] <ghost-warrior> Dr_Willis_,  Yes.
[23:54] <Dr_Willis_> ghost-warrior:  really not  in the 'ubuntu support' catagory.. not even sure how legal that is.. sounds like you may want to find a more legit way to use windows in the vm
[23:54] <zeep> how come wine  is a dependency for winetricks ;o
[23:54] <zeep> i guess it kinda makes sense. could just download it from the site if you need it by itself
[23:54] <Dr_Willis_> ghost-warrior:  the VM will have access to networking. unless you disable the network in the vm. so its not going tobe totally locked down
[23:55] <Neldogz> Hey everyone, what is the proper way to setup dual screens in Ubuntu? I have 2 screens setup using Nvidia Proprietary drivers in TwinView config. Is this the correct option?
[23:56] <ghost-warrior> Dr_Willis_: yeh, sorry. I wiped my official win 8 installing 12.10 :(  And i hadn't made a recovery disk.. Fail
[23:56] <sha1sum> I recently switched to 13.04 from OpenSUSE 12.2, where my HDMI audio output was working fine alongside my internal audio and I could switch application output from one to the other... Now ALSA recognizes my HDMI output by mixers using pulse do not.
[23:56] <sha1sum> Anyone ever see this? I've googled for the past two hours to no avail.
[23:57] <harrisr> how can i send a video call through empathy
[23:57] <ghost-warrior> sha1sum,  I'm having issues getting my HDMI output working on 12.10, Tried installing driver everything ??
[23:57] <sha1sum> harrisr: It has good Google Talk audio support, not sure about video, though.
[23:58] <sha1sum> ghost-warrior: I've tried the proprietary AMD/ATI drivers and all that did was (ironically) screw up my video where I couldn't get the HDMI resolution past 1600x900. The audio situation, however, stayed the same.
[23:58] <Prock> so is there a wm that has no features, no hot keys, and forces everything full screen, no title bars (min/max/close) no menu bar to the wm its self, so only way to open an app is to call it with the wm
[23:58] <ghost-warrior> sha1sum, It worked fine on karmic 9.10
[23:58] <sha1sum> Prock: you're looking for some kind of kiosk functionality. That's where I'd start searching.
[23:59] <bekks> Prock: No, there isnt.
[23:59] <Dr_Willis_> Prock:  whats the point of this  anyway?
[23:59] <ghost-warrior> Thanks for the help. night all .. TC
[23:59] <Prock> the lightest wm on the planet with the least features
[23:59] <sha1sum> Dr_Willis_: I could imagine if he were running some kind of kiosk it might be useful.
[23:59] <Dr_Willis_> jwm is about the lightest wm ive seen
[23:59] <SunStar> is this normal for a machine that started out as 13.04 beta1? "Err http://ppa.launchpad.net raring/main i386 Packages 404 not found, http://ppa.launchpad.net raring/main amd64 Packages 404 not found"
[23:59] <Dr_Willis_> !info jwm
[23:59] <Prock> kiosk? sha1sum


 I saw your mail last night
[08:04] <Kilos> ah ty superfly  wasnt sure. hope i explained what i did wrong
[10:57] <Kilos> superfly, looks like that maverick installation was a wubi install thats why it doesnt show on grub. and when you try open it from windows it gets to initramfs with lotsa commands in help
[10:57] <superfly> ah, ok
[10:57] <Kilos> i didnt see a wubi choice did it as alongside but will leave it for now till ian can update his natty
[10:59] <Kilos> found an interesting package for these kinda probs you can save it for future use maybe
[10:59] <Kilos> http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/files/bootinfoscript/0.60/boot_info_script060.zip/download
[11:01] <Kilos> and this http://paste.ubuntu.com/612649/
[11:05] <Kilos> and here is the info for the script goodie http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280
[11:18] <superfly> Kilos: you should reply to your e-mail to the list with that information, so that other people can find a solution as well
[11:19] <Kilos> ah ty thats a good idea
[13:46] <kbmonkey> booted a 11.04 Live cd hoping to check Unity, doesn't run in live environment lol
[13:57] <nuvolari> ugh, it's a mission. Anyone knows of a wordpress feed cleaner?
[13:57] <nuvolari> why would people put tables in RSS??
[14:15] <confluency> nuvolari: because they put tables on a page and they put whole pages in the rss?
[14:25] <nuvolari> confluency: the thing that bugs me... the web article doesn't contain a table, but the feed does.
[14:25] <confluency> Weird.
[14:26] <confluency> What reader are you using?   I started getting sick and just hearing Kilos's remedies got me better
[20:42] <Kilos> hehe
[20:42] <inetpro> :-)
[20:52] <Kilos> kinda cold in ptown
[20:53] <kbmonkey> this cold front
[20:54] <Kilos> yeah i be freezing here
[20:54] <Kilos> best places , hot bath and bed
[20:55] <kbmonkey> soek n kaggel
[20:55] <Kilos> lol
[21:02] <nlsthzn-work> in another month or two the temp here at 10 at night wil be about 35degC...
[21:03] <Kilos> then you will have a reason for sweating nlsthzn-work
[21:03] <Kilos> not from overwork
[21:04] <nlsthzn-work> Kilos: I may be at work... nobody said anything about working ;) ... and trust me, if you can stay in doors there is a lot less sweating etc. here than in SA... everything has got air-conditioning... even tents :p
[21:04] <Kilos> yea i beleive you boet suffer next door in saudi
[21:05] <Kilos> suffered
[21:05] <nlsthzn-work> 5 months of hell, but 7 months of really nice weather actually... better than a lot of places on earth
[21:06] <Kilos> yeah
[21:08] <kbmonkey> I prefer icy cold to unbearable heat
[21:08] <Kilos> funny that. my son does as well
[21:08] <Kilos> i love the heat
[21:09] <Kilos> natal north coast is one of my favcourite places
[21:09] <nlsthzn-work> kbmonkey: after some freezing times in the highveld I don't mind the heat here.. it is only bad outisde... inside it is nice
[21:11] <kbmonkey> :)
[21:13] <Kilos> night all. i go bath and sleep now
[22:08] <nuvolari> meh. anyone else having a twitter-wipe?
[22:09] <nuvolari> I still have my followers and the people  I follow, but there's no history in my timeline
[22:12] <nlsthzn-work> nuvolari: I have heard some other people complain... seems to be issues with their servers... give it time... the cloud is your friend :p
[22:22] <Squirm> I created a debian boot flash disk, using unetbootin. it boots  perfectly on my netbook, but on my desktop it throws a "Boot  Error"
[22:22] <Squirm> any idea?
[22:28] <kbmonkey> no idea Squirm. you could try Tuxboot instead of unetbootin, I find that helped some times
[22:28] <kbmonkey> it's an updated fork of unetbootin
[22:29] <Squirm> im writing it to a cd, see if it makes a difference
[22:32] <Squirm> kbmonkey: thanks, I'll try that next time though
[22:33] <kbmonkey> funny, dunno why I didn't try that myself last week. server PC without cd drive :p
[22:33] <Squirm> well, it booted from the CD
[22:34] <Squirm> and yeah, ive installed that exact same ISO on 3 machines now, through unetbootin bootable flash disk
[22:34] <Squirm> and all the times, the disk had been formatted first
[22:34] <Squirm> three*
[22:35] <kbmonkey> some PC's are just stubborn :p
[22:38] <Squirm> grrr
[22:38] <Squirm> now to make sure I dont format my home partition
[22:39] <nuvolari> hmm, I experienced that before
[22:39] <nuvolari> no idea why it happened
[22:39] <nuvolari> lo Squirm
[22:39] <nuvolari> lo kbmonkey, nlsthzn-work
[22:39] <Squirm> hey nuvolari
[22:39] <nuvolari> ok, I'm off to bed
[22:39] <Squirm> whaat
[22:39] <nuvolari> I'm going to be a zombie tomorrow :(
[22:39] <Squirm> you never talk to me
[22:39] <Squirm> ...ever
[22:39]  * Squirm sulks
[22:39] <nuvolari> :P I'm sorry
[22:40] <nuvolari> it's not your fault
[22:40] <nuvolari> it's me
[22:40] <nuvolari> no really
[22:40] <kbmonkey> o.O
[22:40] <Squirm> ...
[22:40] <nuvolari> …
[22:40] <Squirm> I know its you
[22:40] <Squirm> thats why im complaining
[22:40] <nlsthzn-work> nuvolari good night then :p
[22:40] <kbmonkey> -.-  bed sounds good
[22:40] <nuvolari> ye
[22:41] <Squirm> no
[22:41] <Squirm> :/
[22:41] <Squirm> kbmonkey: night night
[22:41] <Squirm> nuvolari: sit#
[22:41] <nuvolari> that soft thing one doesn't spend enough time on
[22:41] <Squirm> the chair
[22:41] <Squirm> :/
[22:41] <nuvolari> lol
[22:41] <Squirm> so sit
[22:41] <nuvolari> I spend enough time on a chair at work
[22:41] <Squirm> but not at home
[22:41] <nuvolari> at home too :/
[22:42] <Squirm> so you need to catch up
[22:42] <Squirm> :/
[22:42] <Squirm> fine
[22:42] <Squirm> gnight
[22:42] <Squirm> no, I take that back
[22:42]  * Squirm leaves
[22:42] <nuvolari> fine!
[22:42] <nuvolari> be like that
[22:42]  * nuvolari slams the door
[22:42] <nuvolari> pfft
[22:42] <kbmonkey> lovers spat!
[22:42] <nlsthzn-work> you can't say pffft... you left already
[22:42] <Squirm> kbmonkey: he has NO respect
[22:43] <Squirm> thanks nlsthzn-work
[22:43]  * kbmonkey gets the popcorn
[22:43]  * Squirm leaves again
[22:43] <nuvolari> tsk tsk tsk
[22:43]  * nlsthzn-work isn't even here... this is all a figmant of your imagination
[22:44] <nuvolari> \o/ |o| /o_ /o\
[22:44] <nlsthzn-work> "It's some form of elvish..."
[22:45] <kbmonkey> oh clever
[22:45] <nuvolari> nlsthzn-work: a line from the big bang theory?
[22:46] <kbmonkey> too tired to think of cleverness now
[22:46] <nlsthzn-work> lol... no, from LOTR (but it might be... I only started watching big bang yesterday... only started season 2 today)
[22:46]  * nuvolari maak soos mis en val in die pad
[22:47] <nuvolari> tschüß
[22:48] <nlsthzn-work> it seems that sleep will not come to the young nuvolari as he still lurks within the hall of ZA...
[22:48] <nuvolari> lol
[22:48] <nuvolari> ok, *gone*
[22:49] <nuvolari> for real now
[22:49] <kbmonkey> ha ha
[22:49] <nuvolari> promise.
[22:49] <kbmonkey>  pause life shortcut: alt+f4
[22:49] <kbmonkey> err, resume life
[22:50] <nuvolari> alt+f2 ?
[22:50] <kbmonkey> alt-sysreq-b
[22:50] <nlsthzn-work> life --replace
[22:50] <nlsthzn-work> life --replace &
[22:51] <nlsthzn-work> :p
[22:51] <nuvolari> init 0
[22:51] <nlsthzn-work> sudo shutdown now
[22:51]  * nuvolari pulls the plug
[22:51] <nuvolari> darn batteries still keep me going
[22:52] <nlsthzn-work> if I had ops I would kick you... but I don't, so I can't
[22:52] <kbmonkey> you need a cron job shutdown
[22:52] <nuvolari> mv -rf /home/johan /dev/null
[22:53] <kbmonkey> or play kmem russian roulette until system crash :D
[22:53] <nlsthzn-work> nah...