 It might be related. The minimal install is looking to remove something that isn't there. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <arraybolt3> Oh, you mean Muon. No, I doubt they're related, but we'll find out I suppose.)
 If that's the case, it's low hanging fruit that anyone in ~lubuntu-dev can solve
 FYI: I'm doing some behind the scenes work on Discourse so it's down until the stuff is done.
[20:23] <arraybolt3> +1, thanks for the heads up
 Special thanks @tsimonq2 @Eickmeyer @guiverc @arraybolt3 - you guys are all great!
[20:56] <arraybolt3> Leokolb: You're great, that's why we had great things to say :)
[20:56] <guiverc> Welcome (again) to Ubuntu Membership @Leokolb
[20:57] <tsimonq2> No, thank *you* for all your hard work. :)
 It's deserved! (re @Leokolb: Special thanks @tsimonq2 @Eickmeyer @guiverc @arraybolt3 - you guys are all great!)
[20:57] <tsimonq2> Oh, and subscribe to LWN. ;P
 I just need to get amypenguin to apply now. :P
 Ubuntu membership?. Congrats @leokolb (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> Welcome (again) to Ubuntu Membership @Leokolb)
[22:19] <arraybolt3> Lesson learned - just because /tmp is stored on your hard drive doesn't mean data saved there persists. :(
 Congratulations! @Leokolb
[22:23] <Eickmeyer> arraybolt3: Was /tmp mounted explicitly by your fstab?
[22:24] <arraybolt3> dunno
[22:25] <Eickmeyer> If it's not, then it wasn't on your hard drive and was, by default, mounted as tmpfs which is always temporary non-persistent storage.
[22:25] <arraybolt3> df told me it was on my hard drive so 🤷
[22:26] <arraybolt3> it's not in my fstab, but there's no tmpfs mount either, and df /tmp tells me:
[22:26] <arraybolt3>  /dev/vda1       65739308 6247752  56119780  11% /
[22:27] <arraybolt3> so idk what, all I know is there was data before the reboot, and no data after the reboot, and now I'm sad :P It's all recoverable, just will take a lot of work and some big downloads.
[22:27] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, it won't tell you the whole story when it comes to /tmp.
[22:28] <arraybolt3> speaking of data loss, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLdRBsuvVKc
[22:28] <Eickmeyer> I'd watch the whole thing but I'm moderating for a twitch channel.
[22:30] <arraybolt3> If you could tell Twitch to stop slowing down the entire Internet so I can do my download for building a new VM, that would be awesome 😃 (j/k, it's obviously just by slow cellular connection, but still, it's unusually snail-like today.)
[22:30] <Eickmeyer> Tell cell carrier to stop throttling during peak times. (it will never happen)
[22:31] <arraybolt3> if they did that, I'd probably slow down all of T-Mobile for everyone else XD
[22:31] <Eickmeyer> Probably/likely.


[14:05] <UbuntuSponge> 2 hours to go !
[14:09] <dholbach> <3
[14:30] <HaloSponge> 90 minutes to go !
[15:01] <cloudmouse> ls
[15:05] <dragonbite> hmm.. site having trouble?
[15:08] <dholbach> yeah, a few pages are having trouble right now
[15:09] <dholbach> I'll let you know once things change
[15:09] <dholbach> it's back now
[15:11] <HaloSponge> dragonbite: Hiya
[15:11] <dragonbite> :) *wave*
[15:12] <HaloSponge> How's your week been ?#
[15:12] <dragonbite> monday started out as .... monday.  I couldn't find my car keys or, more importantly, my wallet with my license!
[15:13] <dragonbite> finally found it, about an hour after I was supposed to start work (and its an hour drive in to the office)
[15:13] <dragonbite> so I'm glad it's Tuesday...
[15:13] <dragonbite> how about you?
[15:15] <HaloSponge> not bad. It was Pi day yesterday. Excuse for an eMail to the gf.
[15:15] <dragonbite> OH!  I completely forgot about the daylight savings time clock changing.... so it starts in almost an hour (since we moved our clocks forward an hour)... so what used to be @ 11 AM is now at 12 noon...
[15:16] <HaloSponge> Wat ?
[15:16]  * HaloSponge thinks it starts in 45 minutes (?)
[15:17] <dragonbite> yeah, like 43 minutes
[15:20] <HaloSponge> I'm looking at a house that *could* cost £500, if no-one else bids.
[15:20] <HaloSponge> http://www.daft.ie/kerry/houses-for-sale/killarney/old-pike-lodge-pike-hill-killarney-kerry-1195799/
[15:21] <dragonbite> Looks nice!
[15:22] <HaloSponge> mm.
[15:22] <dragonbite> Love the color :)
[15:22] <HaloSponge> I think it's for a total redevelopment in long term.
[15:23] <HaloSponge> Killarney has all the red-heads you know :)
[15:23]  * HaloSponge remembers he's already taken :(
[15:24]  * HaloSponge could do with a choc-ice
[15:25] <dragonbite> so THAT's where they're all hiding?! ;)
[15:25] <HaloSponge> Ghehe.
[15:25] <HaloSponge> it'sw
[15:26] <dragonbite> now I only need to go about 20+ years back in time (but not before buying an airline ticket)
[15:26] <HaloSponge> ** It's 8% of the population in Ireland.
[15:26] <dragonbite> are they just as crazy (firey) as redheads are rumoured to be?  if so, that could be a very dangerous place to live!
[15:27] <HaloSponge> Some say it's all about the firey forest, **cough.
[15:28] <HaloSponge> Thing about redheads is they feel no pain.
[15:28] <HaloSponge> taK
[15:28] <HaloSponge> **take a look at this cutie.
[15:29] <HaloSponge> https://www.youtube.com/user/Clisare
[15:29] <dragonbite> suitable for work?
[15:29] <HaloSponge> yeps.
[15:30] <HaloSponge> its on youtube isn't it ?
[15:33] <HaloSponge> Brevik abit baffling at the moment. Don't ya think ?
[15:35] <dragonbite> need to slow it down to get the captions (and practice pronunciations :) )
[15:35] <HaloSponge> Oh, your not celtic in root then ?
[15:36]  * HaloSponge blinks at such a silly question.
[15:37] <dragonbite> "celtic in root"?  meaning where I live, or heritage?
[15:37] <HaloSponge> ignore it - it's a silly question, really - We're all a mixture.
[15:38]  * HaloSponge slaps himself with an eel. http://eelslap.com/
[15:39] <HaloSponge> I need a coffee BRBack.
[15:39] <dragonbite> I'm like 1% Irish
[15:39] <dragonbite> does that count?
[15:39] <dragonbite> :)
[15:40] <dragonbite> http://eelslap.com .... funny!
[15:42] <dragonbite> The youtube video makes me think of my wife who learned the colorful Hungarian words and said it in school (she was mad) where she thought nobody would know what she said.... on student did and was quite surprised!
[15:50] <HaloSponge> 10 minutes to go.
[15:50] <HaloSponge> DarnIt! I thought it was closer than that.
[15:52] <HaloSponge> It's just too hot.
[15:52] <HaloSponge> coffee didn't help.
[15:53] <dragonbite> It's warm here for March  .. about 46F (7.7C)
[15:54] <HaloSponge> yeah .. Itr's 14C odd here .. much too sunny for my grumpiness.
[15:55] <HaloSponge> Everyone's been caught odd-guard with littler or no energy.
[15:55] <HaloSponge> **Off-guard
[15:55] <HaloSponge> I really like this website: http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Category:Linux
[15:57] <HaloSponge> They get $175 a month just on the patreon. https://www.patreon.com/PCGamingWiki?ty=h
[15:58]  * HaloSponge wonders what a wiki could spend $175 a month on. It's supposed to be voluntary, right ?
[15:58] <HaloSponge> 2 minutes to go !
[15:59] <HaloSponge> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud9XP90zgn8
[16:00] <dholbach> almost there......... :-)
[16:00] <dholbach> popey's just restarting his browser, webcam, PC or something else
[16:00] <dholbach> it's all about restarting today
[16:00] <HaloSponge> QUESTION: Why is it all about restarting today ?
[16:01] <dholbach> good question - I'll ask Alan once he's back in the hangout :-D
[16:02] <dragonbite> "Have you tried rebooting?...."
[16:03] <HaloSponge> Refresh your browsers everyone !
[16:03] <HaloSponge> I see you dholbach
[16:03] <popey> Press refresh NOOOOOWWWWW!
[16:03] <dragonbite> the 4 "R"s of troubleshooting.... "R"estart the applications, "R"estart the operating system, "R"einstall the applications and "R"einstall the OS!
[16:04] <dragonbite> or my favorite "5th R" ... "R"eplace Windows with Linux!!
[16:04] <mhall119> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/
[16:04] <mhall119> May 3-5
[16:04] <dholbach> if you have questions, please prefix them with QUESTION:
[16:04] <HaloSponge> QUESTION: Should I add reddit Ubuntu communities to wiki.ubuntu.com/Social , or not ?
[16:04] <dholbach> HaloSponge, please do!
[16:04] <HaloSponge> ok.
[16:05]  * HaloSponge adds it to the to-do List.
[16:05] <mhall119> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/propose_meeting/ to propose a meeting (but you have to run it!)
[16:05] <Notes_App> QUESTION: My last update was back in june 2015. You don't like me?
[16:08] <Faraone> When whatsapp on ubuntu touch?
[16:08] <mhall119> Faraone: start questions with the word QUESTION in all caps
[16:09] <dragonbite> QUESTION: With Microsoft owning Minecraft and is rumoured to be changing things over to C#, do you think there will be an issue with running Minecraft in Ubuntu in the future or will .NET Core take care of that?
[16:09] <mhall119> it helps them see it
[16:09] <HaloSponge> QUESTION: There's a guy called "bad-geek" on youtube. Have we got to the stage where we just can't buggy software like Openshot in the community that we need to post "arguing" videos about Ubuntu ? yur thoughts ?
[16:09] <HaloSponge> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kgAXY0mfcA
[16:09] <Faraone> QUESTION: when whatsapp on ubuntu
[16:09] <mhall119> http://mhall119.com/2016/03/help-make-gnome-software-beautiful/ :) Thanks dholbach
[16:09] <HaloSponge> **Not quite a good question, there.
[16:09] <Amar> Hi
[16:10] <dragonbite> QUESTION: Is it decided how to get Unity 8 on 16.04 (spin ISO, post-install packaging? etc.)
[16:10] <Amar> QUESTION: How many phones does popey have?
[16:10] <arnaudober> QUESTION: Is it shedulded to be able to receive calls/SMS of Ubuntu Phone on Ubuntu Tablet/Desktop in the near future with the next release of BQ Aquaris M10?
[16:10] <mhall119> dholbach: popey: Release parties!
[16:10] <mhall119> the global event has just been created for loco teams to use: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/3339/
[16:11] <gr33nbits> oh we live, awesome
[16:11] <HaloSponge> QUESTION: Where have the little google hangout user-icons gone off the hangout ?
[16:11] <Faraone> QUESTION: when whatsapp on ubuntu?
[16:11] <mhall119> Faraone: no need to repeat, they will queue up the questions and answer them in order
[16:12] <HaloSponge> grrRR .. the whatsapp question.
[16:12] <Prasad> QUESTION: Ubuntu touch for sony Xperia Z1? . During MWC there was news about it.
[16:12] <mhall119> HaloSponge: whatsapp on the phone is like photoshop on the desktop, it'll always be the question :)
[16:13] <dragonbite> QUESTION: with the move to mobile, etc. is there any possibility of UbuntuOne being brought back for use between devices?
[16:13] <mhall119> popey: I'm good now :)
[16:13] <HaloSponge> mhall119: You can use wine to get photoshop on the desktop.
[16:13] <mhall119> HaloSponge: yeah, and there's Shaslik (or whatever it's called) that might give you the Android WhatsApp client
[16:13] <hasan> Hi! there is any Ubuntu-convergence phone in the near future? same convergence on BQ Ubuntu tablet
[16:14] <hasan> QUESTION: Hi! there is any Ubuntu-convergence phone in the near future? same convergence on BQ Ubuntu tablet
[16:14] <Amar> I quite liked Ubuntu one, even though it had it's problems
[16:14] <HaloSponge> QUESTION: Wat are we doing to get more women in to the community ?
[16:14] <mhall119> HaloSponge: Meizu PRO 5 :)
[16:15] <mhall119> sorry, that was for hasan
[16:15] <dragonbite> QUESTION: Microsoft is open sourcing the AI from Minecraft, would this be helpful in making the Ubuntu Phone "intelligent"?  (and not in the Robotic-apocolypse style)
[16:15] <mhall119> the PRO 5 is the primary focus for wireless display right now, it'll get convergence that way
[16:16] <Notes_App> Thanks! I also want a white background like my cousins!
[16:16] <hasan> mhall119: thank you! can we use this feature on other Ubuntu phone? e.g. E4.5
[16:17] <gr33nbits> I hope that changes now that bill gates <3 Linux
[16:17] <gr33nbits> lol
[16:17] <dragonbite> QUESTION: does anybody try pointing out to Apple and Microsoft that when they say "cross-platform" and "works on all systems" and they do not include Linux, that they are incorrect and should either change their terms or add Linux support?
[16:18] <mhall119> hasan: soon yes, it requires work on the Android container to make it work, and right now that's being done on Android 5.x for the Meizu, it'll have to be backported to 4.x that's used on the already released devices
[16:18] <mariogrip> QUESTION: What's the status on proprietary amd/nvidia drivers supporting mir?
[16:18] <hasan> mhall119: thank you some much!
[16:19] <mhall119> no problem, stay tuned, I'm very excited about it coming to my Nexus 4 too
[16:19] <Notes_App> QUESTION: Will be users capable, in the near future, to change the background of the scopes? It's white/grey since 2014....
[16:19] <hasan> mhall119: ;)
[16:20] <Amar> QUESTION: Will there be any *continuity* between Ubuntu devices? Convergence is an admirable goal, but being able to seamlessly move between any device is (in my opinion) just as important
[16:20] <mhall119> Notes_App: technically each scope can define it's own background color, it's up to the developer
[16:20] <HaloSponge> QUESTION: Has anyone looked into "accessible" Ubuntu for ppl with special needs ? Are the user-experiences tested at Canonical ?
[16:22] <gr33nbits> exactly Alan
[16:22] <arnaudober> My wifi had a problem, so I haven't seen answer to my question... So I ask again - QUESTION: Is it planned to be able to synchronize calls/SMS from Ubuntu Phone to a Ubuntu Tablet/Desktop with the next release of BQ Aquaris M10?
[16:22] <HaloSponge> QUESTION: Who had Pie yesterday for Pi-day ? HaloSponge wishes you a happy belaited Pi-Day !
[16:22] <hasan> QUESTION: Today scope will be changed at the next OTA!? the Ubuntu phone homepage has new Today scope!! http://www.ubuntu.com/phone :D
[16:24] <gr33nbits> hahahhaha
[16:24] <HaloSponge> QUESTION: WE are at the stage where we are looking at an Open-Banking-API for our local Credit Union. Does Canonical have a swat team to develop an App for Banks etc if needed ?
[16:25] <mariogrip> QUESTION: I really liked the kubuntu online party, it was really fun. Could we have a Ubuntu party for all *buntu flavours where we can bing us more together?
[16:25] <mhall119> mariogrip: start one :)
[16:25] <HaloSponge> gr33nbits: Yes that was funny. " I dunno .... :) "
[16:25] <mariogrip> mhall119: Yeah! :)
[16:26] <gr33nbits> HaloSponge, xD
[16:26] <Faraone_> QUESTION:when you can move the files as in X11, then adding the possibility you put them on your desk?
[16:27] <cm-t_> I arrived at the end about the steps to become user to bug reporter: Is a unity8 GUI apport like app is targeted? I mean something i can link to my lp account easly,
[16:27] <HaloSponge> I'm loosing audio abit .
[16:27] <cm-t_> Grrr osk...
[16:27] <mhall119> cm-t_: start questions with QUESTION :)
[16:29] <cm-t_> Question : Annonces about status of aethercast ?
[16:29] <cm-t_> mhall119 to hard to use the irc on the phone browser, ill pass on this question ;)
[16:29] <mhall119> cm-t_: were you around for my reply to hasan above?
[16:30] <mhall119> abour wireless display
[16:30] <HaloSponge> QUESTION: I wrote two letters to Jane Silbre (spelling?) CEO of Canonical, but she didn't bother to reply. I was told she was very approachable and am disgruntled. It was about doing an AMA on reddit.
[16:30] <cm-t_> Mhall119 here since ~24
[16:31] <mhall119> cm-t_: the tl;dr is that it's being implemented first on the Meizu PRO 5, and then will be backported to older devices
[16:31] <Notes_App> QUESTION: I want to buy a nexus 7 2013 to use ubuntu on it. Is this device capable of 'side-stage'?
[16:31] <mariogrip> dholbach: your network seems to be dying
[16:32] <HaloSponge> sound is terrible.
[16:32] <dragonbite> wow, dholbach... you're so choppy!
[16:32] <dholbach> sorry
[16:32] <dholbach> let me turn off my video
[16:32] <mhall119> too many coworkers online
[16:32] <Amar> it's you
[16:32] <HaloSponge> we're loosing dholbach
[16:32] <Amar> xD
[16:32] <dragonbite> darn dial-up!
[16:32] <dragonbite> :)
[16:32]  * HaloSponge offers dholbach a rope to pull back in.
[16:32] <dholbach> no dial up... it's the office and there's many folks here today
[16:33] <dragonbite> I've got a tin can and string around here ...
[16:33] <mariogrip> QUESTION: is there plans for supporting biometrics (like fingerprint, heart sensor etc) and nfc in ubuntu touch
[16:33] <dragonbite> yes, AI for running mobs
[16:33] <cm-t_> mhall199 thank
[16:33] <dragonbite> and villagers
[16:34] <HaloSponge> QUESTION: What's your favourite type of ice-cream ?
[16:34] <mariogrip> it's better now dholbach
[16:34] <Amar> QUESTION: Any progress on Mycroft AI on the desktop (that you can reveal)?
[16:34] <HaloSponge> getting there dholbach
[16:36] <HaloSponge> QUESTION: It's half-time (30 minutes in) Can everyone change sides and accept my sliced oranges when passing half-way ?
[16:37] <cm-t_> QUESTION : I've found that project http://ur1.ca/on1yb it's about 'teleport' or 'clone, an app on the fly from one device to an other device. Could lxc/lxd do that for snappy ubuntu personnal, and could it be built-in sdk without the need of lxc/lxd (talking about proof of concept)
[16:37] <Amar> Brilliant!
[16:39] <hasan> QUESTION: It is possible that an Scope works with a database!? I think about a management software such as customized apps that made with http://www.filemaker.com on OS X, but as Scope in Ubuntu!
[16:39] <Faraone> QUESTION: when you can move the files as in X11, then adding the possibility you put them on your desk?
[16:39] <Amar> Faraone what do you mean?
[16:39] <cm-t__> mhall119 does my question abort 'teleport' has been posted, tab crashed here ^^
[16:40] <cm-t__> about*
[16:40] <mhall119> cm-t__: it's there, yes
[16:41] <cm-t__> Thanks
[16:41] <Faraone> Amar to move files to the desktop
[16:41] <mhall119> American pi is best pi
[16:43] <mhall119> HaloSponge: if it's an open API, then you can get community FOSS developers to make one
[16:43] <mhall119> just document and promote the API
[16:44] <teklordz> Q: WILL UBUNTU_MATE 16.04 INCLUDE A LOG OUT OPTION (INSTEAD OF SUSPEND)?
[16:44] <HaloSponge> QUESTION Who designs the clothing clobber on the Canonical Store ?
[16:44] <HaloSponge> oh dear.
[16:44] <mhall119> teklordz: use the full word QUESTION before your question
[16:44] <HaloSponge> no need to type in caps also.
[16:45] <mhall119> also, maybe take the capslock off for the rest of the question
[16:45] <cm-t__> ADS : Meetup in Paris, #ubuntu #IoT http://ur1.ca/on30p
[16:45] <teklordz> Question: Will Ubuntu Mate 16.04 include a log out option (instead of suspend)?
[16:46]  * mhall119 bets popey's phone still uses Android 4.x container
[16:46] <mariogrip> mhall119: ha :P
[16:46] <HaloSponge> dholbach: popey, You need to start rallying through these questions, now.
[16:47] <mariogrip> My opo has 5.1 popey
[16:49] <HaloSponge> QUESTION: originally there were a_lot of phones ported to Ubuntu-Touch. Now they don't work ? Surely, if they work once *they should* always work with updates ? What went wrong ?
[16:50] <dragonbite> Neopolitan is in USA too
[16:50] <HaloSponge> here too.
[16:51] <cm-t__> yes, you get it ;)
[16:54] <Amar> QUESTION: Will there ever be another t-shirt like the Hardy Heron t-shirt? That was the best looking one by far
[16:54] <HaloSponge> CRumbs there used to be 50 ppl watching when Jono was on ... Now there's just 13 ppl :(
[16:56] <mariogrip> QUESTION: will there be other payment options other than paypal on the ubuntu store (like bitcoin, amazon, credit card)
[16:57] <hasan> mariogrip, Good question!
[16:57] <HaloSponge> QUESTION: what does the team think of the fact that there is only 10 people watch this stream now. When Jono was on it was closer to 50 ?
[16:57] <hasan> mariogrip, Good question! I have same issue
[16:58] <Amar> There's more than 10 surely?
[16:58] <mariogrip> hasan: Yeah, + paypal has some high fees
[16:58] <teklordz> Thanks!
[16:59] <HaloSponge> QUESTION: Will you be at UbuCon Europe ?
[16:59] <DeathRowRecords> Do u know what suxs its the implementation of TLS 1.2 connecting 2 Wi-Fi WPA-WPA2 Enterprise Drops the signal and ppl say to update FreeRadius .... Drops the mic here! zzzzz
[16:59] <dholbach> HaloSponge, yes :)
[16:59] <cm-t__> Question: Is Munity on 16.04 ?
[16:59] <hasan> mariogrip, I prefer bitcoin but think Ubutnu Gift Card is needed!! :D
[17:00] <mariogrip> Yeah, bitcoin and gift card would be really nice
[17:00] <Amar> According to the omgubuntu article Munity is on 16.04
[17:00] <cm-t__> Cool :)
[17:00] <Amar> Thanks !
[17:00] <cm-t__> Thanks you o/
[17:01] <mariogrip> o/
[17:01] <popey> thanks everyone
[17:01] <gr33nbits> thanks guys
[17:01] <hasan> Thank you for answers! :)
[17:01] <Amar> see ya next week
[17:02] <gr33nbits> see you guys next week
[17:02] <HaloSponge> are we still hanging out ?
[17:02] <popey> we are always hanging out
[17:03] <gr33nbits> xD
[17:04] <DeathRowRecords> Ok Rock out with ur Cock out
[17:04] <HaloSponge> I need a beer .. but milk'll do.


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 @hwpplayer1, i think it would defeat the purpose. also the speeds are quite good and phones are only getting faster. my goal is to package Lazarus IDE to be easily installable onto the phonne qith my custom components bundle dedicated for Ubuntu Touch development so that it would become a one stop SDK for UT. I think main scenario will be for people to ssh into the phone from a desktop and launch lazarus onto desktop screen. Phone hosted, carried
[01:12] <tgBot> around in your pocket, but worked on mostly out of comfort of your bigscreen and physical keyboars/mouse. Until you start using it on a phone that supports external monitor or miracast.
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 @Flohack, Florian sorry to bother you again about that, but what about all the other features are missing in Telegram app compared to Android version? I mean, the features to be started with @ (gif, 4square, game...), position sharing, phone call, long chat updating speed increase....is there a chance to see some of them with the next update, a part from supergroups which is already a great news? Thank you!
 @Matteo, @gif and so are called "inline bots" btw
 Ok thank you, good to know
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 @Matteo, Morning, well there is a long list. See here: https://github.com/ubports/telegram-app/issues
 We will roll out supergroups asap, and not waste more time with other features
 But all the newer features will have a very long ETA, since still the API level we have now is at least 1 year behind ;)
 We are also planning a V3 for the app (currently called V2 from upstream), and so we might save some of this stuff for a new version, which will allow more features & better performance
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 Hey everyone! I just wanted to check if anyone else is having battery issues with Oneplus One? Because of problems with incoming phone calls on devel, I recently switched to the stable channel (OTA-2). Unfortunately the battery drain has been horrendous since then, about 15-20% per hour while phone mostly idle. If it is not software related, it must be that my battery is beginning to give up. Anyone else having issues like this on OPO?
 @Flohack, 🍺🍺 great work guys. So happy to be a patreon of this project
 Supergroup is a must so we can use UBports to chat here
 Natively
 @malditobastardo, Yeah this is now soon possible. =) I hope
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 @Matteo, You know it works like a desktop
 (Sticker, 512x309) https://irc.ubports.com/iDyy7fFy/file_1230
[10:17] <tgBot> Malcolm was added by: Malcolm
 @TomasOqvist, I have the same issues... Without nu bacon device.
 @TomasOqvist, I have the same issues, with my device (OPO)
 Any idea why my ubports install freezes. Phone is stuck in ubuntu recovery, adb shows last command done pushing.. But nothing happens? 😳
 I use same install command as before
 Solved! After waiting 30minutes, it finally started to install
 @UniversalSuperBox, Waiting
 https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/10/severe-flaw-in-wpa2-protocol-leaves-wi-fi-traffic-open-to-eavesdropping/
 https://hackaday.com/2017/10/16/oh-great-wpa2-is-broken/
 @jakko, I filed a bug report about it here: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/299
 @harishsays, want to discuss this in our offtop chat? you are welcome to join: @ubports_ot
 so it looks like the repositories for xenial are broken with regard to debootstrap
 if i manually visit them, there is nothing there to be downloaded
 @rubencarneiro, this indeed looks nice.  Would be cool to see a tablet in that line up.. I think at least one is going.  and then finally - when convergence is done - the laptop and desktop again :)
 Hey everyone.  This is an official 'call out' for 'community links'. We would like to gather a list of links here to blogs and developers in this group so we can look at them and plug them and basically all gain from them.  If you know of one, please let me know here (might as well start sharing in front of all ofus here) or email<EMAIL_ADDRESS> This is 'on topic' Ivan ;)
 I'm not an admin here and I'm not judging anyone, I'm just promoting my chat ;)
 @vanyasem, Done
 @vanyasem, thanks.  then send me links.  :)
 I don't get, what links do you want exactly?
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 @vanyasem, you want links to personal CVs and blogs of all developers from this chat? @wayneoutthere
 yes, exactly.  CVs... not really needed right now more links where someone can click and go learn more about Ubuntu, Ubuntu Touch, test developments, etc.  Basically anything 'remotely on topic' and that involves members here.
 any link that might be of interest and hopefully somewhat on topic
 so like links to my blogposts about UBports?
 in Russian?
 sure
 okay, just wanted to clarify
 I think the solution to this is to build in a native environment
 which means building from ubuntu core
 which could take a while
 ahhh this is stupid
 I can get zesty arm64
 but not xenial
 Is it possible to get the smartphone display working as a touchpad, when it's conneted via slimport?
[13:39] <tgBot> <Vitaliy Popov> ℹ О боте
[13:40] <tgBot> <Vitaliy Popov> Sorry, accidentally
 this bot is stuck here
 and can't be removed
 for an unknown reason
 it's kicked, but the keyboard is still there
 @nfsprodriver, shouldn't it work that way already?
 @vanyasem, no keyboard here, for UT telegram app, web app, and telegram on windows.
 and android, and ios
 (jeez i'm cross platform)
 (Photo, 1280x1052) https://irc.ubports.com/0qhNRg9C/file_1232.jpg
 🇬🇧 Change language
 @vanyasem, no idea why it got compressed 😂
 what platform are you running?
 Android
 i was afk when the keyboard bot came and went. so guess i'm not infected?
 does telegram keep cookies
 "infected" is a nice word for it 😂
 do you have it on all your devices? does it spread along with your account, even to devices that didn't have the bot?
 I am exercising rn, so can't check :P
 you have to stay healthy in order to be productive
 so that's what i'm doing wrong :-P
 does that mean i should go back to bed till i don't feel sick?
 @Xorpad, no.
 i got a rootfs built now
 I gotta test it
[14:24] <tgBot> alisahep was added by: alisahep
 @alisahep, welcome
[14:29] <tgBot> <demokrit atomos> @wayneoutthere, so first entry to #community-links : http://kriscode.blogspot.de/
[14:29] <tgBot> <demokrit atomos> damn, have to write this together: #communitylinks 😜
[14:30] <tgBot> <demokrit atomos> second entry: https://sturmflut.github.io/ #communitylinks
[14:31] <tgBot> <demokrit atomos> (i know that one is a little bit aged but still has valuable info)
[14:37] <tgBot> <demokrit atomos> and No.3 #communitylinks : http://thinkonbytes.blogspot.de/search/label/touch
[14:38] <tgBot> <demokrit atomos> No. 4: #communitylinks : http://kylenubuntu.blogspot.de/
[14:42] <tgBot> <demokrit atomos> No. 5: #communitylinks : https://www.gitbook.com/book/gurucubano/bq-aquaris-e-4-5-ubuntu-phone/details
[14:56] <tgBot> <demokrit atomos> @wayneoutthere i took the liberty to introduce a hashtag for this call for entries. You can thus easily filter the supergroup to only show messages containing this hashtag...
 thanks!
[15:01] <tgBot> <demokrit atomos> No 6 #communitylinks : https://www.gitbook.com/book/mimecar/ubuntu-touch-programming-course/details
 Any image editor for UT?
 I mean for rescaling.  Crop. Etc
 GIMP?
 InstantFX
[15:23] <tgBot> FelixWeinzierl was added by: FelixWeinzierl
 @FelixWeinzierl, welcome
 Hello I‘m new here.  … I‘be heard about your project and I like it so much! … I’ve a verry bad question. Can You say me with wich Devices I can download Ubuntu Touch 😬.  … I’ve read the official site but I had also heard that the OnePlus X can install Ubuntu Touch but it isn’t written in the official website.
 Sorry for my bad English I’m a German.
 Supported Devices: https://ubports.com/page/get-ubuntu-touch
 @FelixWeinzierl, Maybe what you heard is that is in development or someone is working on it. (maybe halium??) Still, there's no working/stable image of Ubuntu Touch for that device.
 @Jujuyeh, Thank you verry much!
 Exist a German UBports Supergroup?
 No, only this English Group
 @Jujuyeh, Thanks 😀
 I tried InstantFX but it doesn't have the options to rescale a picture.  Just filters. Very limited.
 @malditobastardo, Yeah, I believe it is on alpha state... @sverzegnassi ?
 @Lorxu, I may give it a try to Gimp with containers. But I had bad experiences with Firefox and VLC just crashing
 Thanks Paul
 😁
 I am stuck at the moment because I am still waiting for a fix for the video player
 And VLC is not working. Dunno what I am doing wrong when trying to use the containers
 @malditobastardo, I had problems with the player back when I used the Canonical image. It worked fine after flashing UBports image... So maybe a reflash could be solution? I'm not sure
 Yeah I mean. I have the green image problem when I record a video and then I try to play it. It's missing codecs
 There is already a fix for this for bacon
 We discussed the other day about this
 (I'm responding to everything because I get bored in class 😆)
 @malditobastardo, That's exactly what happend to me (Pro5)
 I am in hammerhead nexus 5
 I thing you are the lucky one who got the hotfix already
 Thi
 Think•*
 @Jujuyeh, That "alpha" means that UT was already abandoned at the time, so I wasn't interesting in spending much time on the app.  … InstantFX is meant to be an Instagram-like image editing app. For a more serious image manipulation, probably GIMP is the only app available (via Libertine)  🙂
 Imagemagick should be able to crop etc..
 http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/crop/#crop
 @mariogrip Can we test this rootfs http://ci.ubports.com/job/xenial-7.1-caf-sudoku-rootfs/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/out/ubports-touch.rootfs-xenial-armhf.tar.gz ? And if yes, how?
 we were just discussing it in ot chat
 Unfortunately the Halium initrd doesn't work with it. Marius is on the case.
 idk why do we use ot chat for non-ot stuff
 ok
 @vanyasem, Blame @wayneoutthere :P
 He's out of this chat too much
 And in the wrong one too much
 @Lorxu, we started using it for non ot long before Wayne even acknowledged it's a real thing
 But I want to blame Wayne :P
 Honestly though I thought it started with him, guess I was wrong, then I don't know when it started
 it started with my PME Halium port
 as I questioned Marius in the ot chat between the lines
 whatever it is, feel free to blame me for it. … Next!
 @samitormanen, Yeah imagemagick on desktop works great but it's working in UT?
 From command line it should work. I havent try it though..
 @wayneoutthere, You know excessive blame for things you didn't do can cause serious mental illness right? :P
 I could literally blame you into sickness :P
 try!
 I broke it. Wayne Did It (WDI)
 Nah, I like you too much to try to mess you up on purpose
 aw. thanks!
 thanks to getting blamed for things I didnt do a lot, I've come to realize that part of life is actually learning how to deal with ths.... i'm not fully there but I"m getting better...  more on this in OT chat if you want :)
 I don't really have much to say but sure
 @samitormanen, Ok good. I never tried th terminal from the phone itself
[16:54] <tgBot> <Gleb Lee 🇸🇨> Another option to edit images (probably) is web-based online-editor. I thougt about create online JS app and pack into webapp.
 @malditobastardo, that is the best part about ut
 it is where u get the full ubuntu experience
 and best way is to ssh into the phone and boom, ubuntu just like on desktop
 you can even ssh -x user@ipaddr and then u have xforwardimg working!
 just need to apt-get install xauth on the phone
 so that .Xauthority can be generated upon your ssh session
 and u can do amazing rhings
 u can install legacy gtk apps on the phone
 and run them remotely onto your desktop
 ie nautilus
 or gedit
 or baobab
 etc
 btw i use inkscape on my phone
 i am sure you can use gimp as well
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/h0rTQmTO/file_1205.jpg
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/AEyIjVZK/file_1203.jpg
 in fact i will try to install gimp next
 @KrisJacewicz, cool!
 @KrisJacewicz, Could you please write a HowTo for that? I mean for less experienced users? That would be amazing :)
 Seems like the installer doesn't want to detect my nexus 5 in fastboot :/
 Great. I love how powerful is imagemagick just using the terminal. I will try to use it now. And I might just give it another try again to libertine containers an try gimp or Inkscape. Thank you all for the help and good information
 @jja2000, It just sits at "Waiting for Nexus 5" or "Put your device into fastboot"
 @wayneoutthere, I had one just removed
 @jja2000, I had similar issue. You can try CPT instead
 Looking for something to blame Wayne for?
 Blame Wayne and Joe for this: … https://ubports.com/blog/the-audiocasts-3/post/ubuntu-touch-audiocast-013-magnificent-maggot-87
 listeting
 ;)
 oh it's 55 mins
 i don't have that much time 😆
 (jk, i always have time for audiocasts)
 yes, this is the more beefy bomb
 Joe does a killer Flo impression
 a killer Nexus 7 impression?
 i dont get it
 @vanyasem, Yup
 @Flohack flo
 @wayneoutthere, You ruined it :(
 darn
 i'm not the sharpest tool in the shed
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/Dg0bnBgX/file_1234.mp4
 @PhoenixLandPirate, yep, totally
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/WKWmBxCw/file_1235.mp4
 that was a nice troll btw
 @wayneoutthere, LOL!
 Hey guys, do you have a clue why my browser doesn't work on the BQ E5HD?  Any ideas how to install everything needed for the browser? I don't wanna reset all, because only now I just got my Whatsapp fixed and reinvited in all the groups.
 How to invite @tylnesh?
 Hey guys, any idea how I can use apt in the terminal? I did it before, but I forgot what to do to get past the "Not using locking for read only lock file" error
[20:11] <tgBot> tylnesh was added by: tylnesh
 Hey guys! UBports installer hangs when trying to install to Ubuntu edition BQ m10 FHD
 debug: adb shell: echo 1 … debug: fastboot: wait for device
 The gui installer?
 @tylnesh, What OS on your PC?
 Ubuntu Mate 17.10
 ok, found out what was the problem
 I tried using the snap version and for some reason, it won't open the com
 I downloaded the appImage version and now it seems to be working
 👍
 Everyone is listening to a podcast right now so it has gone quiet
 ok...
 hm..
 Waiting for device to enter recovery mode
 tablet booted into the system recovery. What now?
 Huawei Mate 10 can be a desktop with cable connection. Ok, Ubuntu Touch too and wireless.
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/h0rhlTOM/file_1236.mp4
[20:23] <tgBot> Reinhold_Blank was added by: Reinhold_Blank
 only need snap libreoffice and others.. However I have some mistakes with internet connection and the windows/scopes open all thogether and small size.
 @tylnesh, It is very slow to reboot. Three minutes maybe even on normal boot
 Welcome Reinhold
[20:29] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @tylnesh why did not you follow my supergroub link I have sent you already in the morning gentleman?
 Sorry, didn't notice it
 Fastboot: Unknown error:  < waiting for any device > … downloading 'boot.img'... … FAILED (command write failed (Success)) … finished. total time: 0.000s
 Anyone know how to get access to system files in ubports? You had to mount something I think, but I don't know how
[20:31] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> OK, later but finally here, welcome
 TweakTool
 @Stereofont, Found it, thanks
 Strange. It just won't install
 stuck on: Waiting for device to enter recovery mode. … Flashing recovery and boot images
 @tylnesh, Did you clear the cache before?
 its a clean install, should I clean it?
 On that tablet the cache is normally 100% full. You need to empty it before you can flash
 Wait... did you say you installed Android on it?
 UT
 Ah, I see, reinstalled already.
 Yes it was from Canonical
 Once I get to this step
 Waiting for device to enter recovery mode... … Flashing recovery and boot images
 it reboots into system recovery <3e>
 no matter if it's off, or in fastboot
 and keeps waiting for device to enter recovery mode
 ... any ideas?
 @tylnesh, You did have Rev.14 open and working before install though?
 yeah
 but I already wiped the flash once you suggested it
 wiped the cache*
 Mmmh. Can't fall back to ubuntu-device-flash, it doesn't exist in 17.10
 so.. what should I do?
 I do have one Ubuntu mate 16.04
 machine at home
 should I try on that one?
 Yes, that might tell us if it's a 17.10 issue.
 all right, gonna boot the old beast
 Serves as a guest computer :)
 If its that old update it first 😂
 It's an old beast, but used often by my parents, visiting nephews, etc
 Well, getting as much traffic as it can, fighting for attention with 6 other Linux powered computers
 USB 2.0 seems to work better for install anyway
 👏
 I always use USB 2 for critical stuff
 Of ffs... Seems like my ssd in that ancient machine just died
 It's the hurricane …
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/xUG5qDVm/file_1237.mp4
 Probably not back here in Eastern Europe
 @tylnesh, Ahah.Your English is so perfect I thought you were here
[20:50] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @UniversalSuperBox Dear Dalton I have lost the overview about webrowser 58 update, when should if should land? And what about the RC channel does it already receives updates from devel? Thanks
 Sorry for misleading you. But if you'd hear my accent, you wouldn't think so :)
 I'm gonna install 16.04 on another computer, be back in half an hour
 I'm hoping it's a 17.10 issue for your sake, but I'm hoping it's not a 17.10 issue for our sake
 :P
 lol. Better you than me :)
 When's the 17.10 release? Next friday?
 @Milan Korecky, Browser update is on the back burner since it failed on several devices.
 RC is rolling weekly now to my knowledge
 I was building an old core 2 duo, 6GB RAM rig for my 6yo nephew... It's so handy now, when I need a 16.04 machine :)
[20:58] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @UniversalSuperBox, Because I did not received any, and last week some more people also confirmed nothing was landing on N5, so it may already be working again and I can switch from stable?
 No way for me to get libertine apps to work. Tries in Ubuntu. Arch. And solus. All of the app I installed crashes
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[21:10] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @tylnesh, looks like he is the youngest Ubuntu fan here 👍
 Well, I started injecting some Ubuntu love into my nephews since the days they were born
 I've got this cute video saved somewhere where my then 3yo nephew says his favorite os is Ubuntu :)
 @Milan Korecky, I just checked again. My M10 FHD says up-to-date on Rev.6
 @tylnesh, https://forums.ubports.com/topic/263/can-t-get-the-m10-fhd-to-take-the-flash
 @tylnesh not sure if your read this?
[21:34] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @Stereofont  No, it does not works for me, I can switch only between stable and development. Selecting RC does not works, nothing happens.
 no, I haven't
 gonna try that one
 after I try UBports installer on 16.04
 @Milan Korecky, I am on RC.  That works. Now I can switch to stable from development …
 @Milan Korecky, Same to me with BQ E5. Seems switching among channels have got some difficulties...
 Hmm. It says updates available: update failed
 @Milan Korecky, SORRY Milan My daughter was at ubuntu meetup when she was in a baby stroller and has been backing my ubuntu agenda since then.    But she can be second!
 It updates in the selection field but is not retained when I go back a page. Now says stable when I set RC
 There was a problem with date reversion to 1972. If the system performs a sense check it will see everything as 'old'
 UBports installer seems to be working fine on 16.04
[21:50] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @wayneoutthere you are right, you mentioned it on the audiocast talking about her she was painting you preparing new audiocast, how could I forget it. I hope I can get one more chance to show I can stay here among the UT pioneers!!! My apologize to you and your young lady.
 @tylnesh, 🤗
 soon, I'll be running proper OS on my tablet
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/FNd6L8FH/file_1238.mp4
 Channel stays at the one previously selected. So you can work through them
 The selection is always one behind
[21:53] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @Stereofont, actituteI cinfirm exactly the same performance, behavior.
 Hi everybody. Just a newbie question.
 @tylnesh, dang. that's such an awesome gif with many flashbacks
 Can I install Ubuntu touch in an oneplus one via windows?
 @Milan Korecky, I shall forgive you just this once!
 I'm trying to use the ubports installer with no luck.
 however, maybe your daughter can start programming and contributing more than mine in which case... mine shall lose her trophy... and we can see if they can collaborate together!
 @Milan Korecky, Now stuck on devel …
 is this on or off topic?  O' Judge Ivan?
[21:57] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @Stereofont me the same
 In 'About' it says I am in devel even though nothing downloaded
[21:58] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @wayneoutthere, he is not here, let us have little fun 😜
[22:00] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> how was it, with that new keyboard behavior @Flohack said during the QA? since I am on delve now, I could try it
[22:03] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/Ny5XayH2/file_1240.jpg
[22:04] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> The Grey button was just some minutes ago missing, and now it appears, strange
 @Milan Korecky, In terminal it says I am in RC
 @Flohack I think you had a theory about this not too long ago
 Milan has date 09.09.70
 Hmm... UBports installer claimed success, but it's been ages and the tablet doesnt boot
 past Powered by Ubuntu screen
 Mine is different format 25/09/2017
 tired already, I'm gonna try again tomorrow.
 @tylnesh, Three minutes?
 more like 7
 First time longer
 ok, gonna let it go for couple more minutes, then I'm gonn ashut it down and try tomorrow, when I get back from work.
 Good night, folks!
[22:13] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @wayneoutthere, She does not know it yet, but I am preparing me to show her soon the basic commands for terminal, I will share with you her reaction, I need some professional coder here that could help us in the future to keep developing UT.
 thanks for all the work!
 and help!
[22:13] <tgBot> <Frank Fricke> @Stereofont, I had the same problem with rc channel a few days ago  therefore I switched to devel channel (Version 41) Works really well on BQ M10FHD. The long boot time error is fixed...now it starts in 27sec
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/EzyU8wAK/file_1241.mp4
 It works
 @Frank Fricke, Milan has version r.181? ?
 @tylnesh, 🤗
[22:19] <tgBot> <Frank Fricke> @Stereofont, yes r181 but for Nexus5, seee … https://system-image.ubports.com/ubports-touch/15.04/devel/hammerhead/
[22:21] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @tylnesh, Congrats and enjoy 🙂
 @Frank Fricke, Ahah! When you go back a page it doesn't carry the change but it DOES change. Devel is now downloading
 Yep... So different from what I remember
 @tylnesh, Try Dekko2. You can install alongside Dekko
[22:32] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/Z8pvSQm0/file_1243.jpg
[22:32] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> and don forget to install also
 And ontheroad if you develop
[22:34] <tgBot> Ricardo was added by: Ricardo
 Welcome Ricardo!
 @Frank Fricke, Very fast. The tablet is not critical at all so devel is no risk really
[22:46] <tgBot> <Frank Fricke> Indeed ...version 41 works fine with my device since 6days...no problems so far
 The browser icon no longer looks like Safari 🤣
[22:48] <tgBot> <Frank Fricke> yes, taht true 😉
 @Milan Korecky, I think it's pretty dishonest that Marius himself is offering this, what if I as a developer want to include ads in my application?
 @samzn, What if i'm a user who doesn't want to see ads and prefers to pay for the application? If you're an app dev, add a donation link to your apps openstore page, if i depend on your app, i will donate. But my time is too valuable to be wasted looking at ads
 this is basically what free software is about. What the developer wants doesn't matter, the user should control the software
[23:31] <tgBot> Johan was added by: Johan
 @neothethird, this conversation is.... totally interesting.  Joe! @exar_kun  #audiocast!