[17:52] <justme> that gives BAD SOUND
[17:52] <justme> spike__, i recommend you emulating the windows version using wine
[17:52] <justme> ;)
[17:53] <Ahri> justme: yeah, it does
[17:53] <spike__> i can't use wine it
[17:53] <Flannel> tripps: If you ddn't have "apache2" installed (you can still have apache installed without the metapackage), that could've happened
[17:53] <unavailable> thundarr you should be able to go to places, network <name of ms network>  <name of comp>  <name of share>  and it should mount automatically
[17:53] <spike__> it like Stops
[17:53]  * zSoilworker Read Between The Lies ·  On The Wings Of Phoenix - Symbyosis
[17:53] <Flannel> zSoilworker: Please turn that off
[17:53] <tripps> Flannel, I most certainly did have apache2 installed tho
[17:53] <bazhang> zSoilworker, turn off that script
[17:53] <spike__> and don't run the Team Speakand the Other to
[17:53] <l1L> linuxrevo: in which way would you get this help?
[17:53] <lee_> Rabbitbunny: there's an error from NVIDIA about not being able to get an ID for CRT-1
[17:53] <Ahri> spike__: maybe you can use murmer/mumble instead?
[17:53] <lee_> EDID*
[17:54] <spike__> eh?
[17:54] <wols_> lee_: pastebin the log and your xorg.conf
[17:54] <Ahri> it's an alternative to teamspeak
[17:54] <dan_> has anyone gottne googledesk top to work on 8.04?
[17:54] <wols_> lee_: or try to change res with xrandr
[17:54] <tripps> this totally sucks.  I have no idea how to fix a nvidia. Sin'ce you're on the CLI you'll need to install lynx as a www browser.
[17:54] <wols_> spike__: yes
[17:54] <Ahri> maybe it's spelt murmur actually :)
[17:55] <spike__> how? i install taht thing and it did not work
[17:55] <wols_> you need a software mixer
[17:55] <spike__> i have Asla
[17:55] <unavailable> thundarr and if you cannot hit the network, make sure your workgroup is the same as windows'  (although mine isnt and im still able to hit every box on both workgroups wifi and corded)
[17:55] <Ahri> wols_: teamspeak only supports oss.......
[17:55] <wols_> Ahri: and?
[17:55] <Ahri> you
[17:55] <Ahri> 're going to have to give a lot more depth
[17:55] <jordan__> does valgrind come preinstalled?
[17:56] <Pici> jordan__: no
[17:56] <Thundarr> unavailable....how do I change the name of my network on my ubuntu box
[17:56] <jordan__> well what good is it
[17:56] <spike__> .
[17:56] <spike__> what Mixer can i get?
[17:56] <wols_> Thundarr: ubuntu doesn't really care about that as a client
[17:56] <Thundarr> to match the windows systems
[17:56] <wols_> Thundarr: nor is it necessary
[17:57] <ABAydin> www.pardus.org.tr/eng
[17:57] <ABAydin> http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng
[17:57] <Thundarr> ok
[17:57] <Thundarr> its great that it not necessary but I cannot see any shared docs on my windows systems
[17:58] <Ahri> so.... any hints on how to install ubuntu from a live usb, without mkfs'ing my hdd? i already have a perfectly good fs sat there
[17:58] <Thundarr> and I don't understand why
[17:58] <spike__> wols, what Mixer do i need?
[17:58] <anirudh0> Luig1, there?
[17:58] <dan_> what package do i need to install  to have gtk on my system?
[17:58] <spike__> I have Asla Mixer
[17:58] <bXi> mount -o loop "filename with spaces" /dev/cdrom0 should work right?
[17:58] <anirudh0> Luig1, what happened?
[17:58] <Luig1> anirudh0: yes
[17:58] <lee_> http://www.pastebin.com/d2439491e
[17:58] <wols_> dan_: none. ubuntu has it installed by default. gnome doesn't work otherwise
[17:58] <anirudh0> bXi, if fs is iso
[17:58] <The-Seiman> I give up, the lastest intel drivers don't work
[17:59] <wols_> lee_: unknown post ID
[17:59] <lee_> damn!
[17:59] <dan_> ok google wont install because it cant find it - how ot i get i hooked up ?
[17:59] <anirudh0> bXi, and you need to specify the mount point as well
[17:59] <Luig1> anirudh0, in dmesg there were several references to high- and full-speed USB devices, does that say anything?
[17:59] <unavailable> thundarr all that info is in system > administration > network  General tab,   but as many have said, it isnt needed in linux
[17:59] <anirudh0> Luig1, that is good
[17:59] <wols_> The-Seiman: for compiz? there are some G965 chipsets without proper linux support since intel fucked up. they're to stupid to do a proper vga chipset
[17:59] <The-Seiman> someone knows if Ubuntu will release a .deb package with the latest intel drivers ?
[17:59] <Thundarr> thanks for all of your help guys
[17:59] <anirudh0> Luig1, did you try out cpio or cp -arv?
[17:59] <spike__> um
[17:59] <Thundarr> I have to go tho
[17:59] <Thundarr> thanks for trying to help me out
[17:59] <bazhang> no cursing wols_
[18:00] <wols_> dan_: I just told you. you already HAVE IT when you run gnome
[18:00] <Pici> wols_: Watch the language, you should know better.
[18:00] <anirudh0> The-Seiman, drivers for what?
[18:00] <The-Seiman> wols_: 965GM
[18:00] <Xcell> The-Seiman--  google that statement
[18:00] <Luig1> anirudh0: I'm terrified to stop tar from doing its work, since all the progress made so far would be lost. I'll try them later :-(
[18:00] <dan_> then why wotn google desk top find i t?
[18:00] <wols_> dan_: tell us the error.exact error
[18:00] <anirudh0> Luig1, hmm...next time pass the -v option to tar..so you know whats happening
[18:01] <Luig1> anirudh0: thank you so much for all your help so far, though!
[18:01] <anirudh0> dan_, permissions?
[18:01] <dan_> i am getting a speicfi  error whin  i  try  to instoal
[18:01] <The-Seiman> because Intel said that optimized drivers for i965 will come this month
[18:01] <dan_> configure: WARNING: Neither gtk host nor qt host will be built !!!
[18:01] <dan_> 	      Nothing can be used to run Google Gadgets for Linux.
[18:01] <wols_> dan_: since you compile you need the -dev package for gtk
[18:01] <wols_> !compile | dan_
[18:01] <The-Seiman> so, I want to know if Ubuntu will release a .deb package
[18:01] <anirudh0> i thought there were debs for google gadgets
[18:01] <Xcell> oh..ok
[18:02] <wols_> The-Seiman: not for hardy I'd guess
[18:02] <bXi> anirudh0: filename with spaces is an iso file in this case and /dev/cdrom0 is the mount point
[18:02] <dan_> thanks
[18:02] <Luig1> anirudh0: I would have, but I'm using the graphical interface (gnome's Archive Manager.) It tells me what file it's working on, but I mostly just see long alphanumeric codes, so I'm not sure what it's doing exactly.
[18:02] <The-Seiman> wols_: okay :'(
[18:02] <anirudh0> bXi, /dev/cdrom0 is device name..mount point should be a folder
[18:02] <wraund> is there any way to fix my issue of only being able to have one sound 'system' running at one time, like i cant play music from amarok and a youtube vid running at the same time. Rule applies with some games too
[18:02] <wols_> bXi: /dev/cdrom0 is NO mountpoint
[18:02] <The-Seiman> wols: but they promised that it will be much faster than the actual driver
[18:02] <wols_> The-Seiman: and?
[18:03] <The-Seiman> well, the 3D games will run faster :p
[18:03]  * anirudh0 wishes people did'nt get angry so easily
[18:03] <wols_> The-Seiman: doesn't explain why ubuntu should update a released distro. wait for ubuntu+1
[18:03] <maek> b4l7424r, use what ever works best with your GPU
[18:03] <unavailable> thundarr did you upgrade or clean install 8.04?
[18:03] <Xcell> anirudh0--  folks are now a days easily angered..
[18:03] <maek> oh noes
[18:04] <anirudh0> Xcell, they should teach zen in schools
[18:04] <Xcell> anirudh0--  agreed.. folks are not kind anymore.
[18:04] <The-Seiman> wols_: well, I just thought that ubuntu should update just his intel drivers
[18:05] <bXi> anirudh0: oh my bad that should be /media/cdrom0
[18:05] <The-Seiman> wols_: but in the update manager i don't find them :-/
[18:05] <anirudh0> The-Seiman, wait for a while
[18:05] <wols_> bXi: btw filename\ with\ spaces.iso works too
[18:05] <lmosher> I'm need help with my xorg.conf. I made some changes to get my mouse working, but now my mouse stops working if I unplug it and re-plug it or if I don't have it plugged in when I start x.
[18:05] <wols_> The-Seiman: just because you think ubuntu should do something doesn't make it so. read again what I told you
[18:06] <bXi> wols_: i know that
[18:06] <bXi> but i dont want to replace stuff if i dont have to in my code :)
[18:06] <Xcell> lmosher--  xpand
[18:06] <wraund> so no one knows how to fix the issue of not being able to have 2 sound systems running at once? :'(
[18:07] <anirudh0> wraund, two sound systems?
[18:07] <wraund> anirudh0: like i cant have amarok playing music and play a game at the same time
[18:07] <wraund> claiming things like 'cant connect to sound server'
[18:07] <wraund> or just not playing any sound :
[18:07] <wraund> :/*
[18:07] <Xcell> wraund--  the fix is in.. in 30 days
[18:07] <anirudh0> wraund, that is, unfortunately, a problem with amarok..2.0 should solve it
[18:07] <anirudh0> :)
[18:08] <lmosher> Xcell, I was trying to get my mouse wheel tilt buttons to work, and it wasn't with the default 'mouse' driver no matter what I tried. I followed suggestions and started using the "evdev" driver, but as I said if I unplug the mouse it won't work if I replug it.
[18:08] <Xcell> lmosher--  being 8.04 is new.. i suggest imwheel.. visit that site and read 1rst
[18:09] <wraund> anirudh0: ok :P
[18:09] <tripps> ok got apache running (had to install prefork instead of worker), but php files come up with dialog box asking what to do with files of type php. dpkg shows libapache2-mod-php5 is installed
[18:09] <wraund> anirudh0: im on 1.4 atm :P
[18:09] <lmosher> Xcell, Visit imwheel site?
[18:09] <Xcell> yes.. google the  imwheel
[18:09] <justme> maybe somebody can tell me
[18:09] <justme> why are only Ubuntu versions > 6.10 vulnerable to the OpenSSL Security Hole ?
[18:10] <Falling-Inferno> I have a problem with my Maxtor One Touch External Hard Drive
[18:10] <anirudh0> justme, botched update
[18:10] <justme> anirudh0, ?
[18:10] <wols_> tripps: ae2nmod php5
[18:10] <oldenglish> Anyone have any idea why I wouldn't be able to create new folders in a samba share in which I have permissions to do so when it is mapped on a windows machine??
[18:10] <Falling-Inferno> it is CLONING itself on my desktop.
[18:10] <dror> hi, I'm using 8.04 AMD64 bit, a computer with 2gb of RAM & AMD dual core +4200. My graphic card is NVIDIA GeForce 6150 + nForce 430. when I switch to use visual effects (normal or extra) - my computer is extremely slow. Can I fix it?
[18:10] <justme> what do you mean with "botched update" ?
[18:10] <wols_> justme: cause that was when the bug was introduced
[18:10] <justme> wols_, ok ;)
[18:10] <anirudh0> justme, ssl devs released a botched update...flawed random number generator makes keys predictable
[18:10] <wols_> tripps: a2enmod  rather
[18:10] <movEDX> Is the 'php5-cgi' package in Ubuntu'd repositories the FastCGI module?
[18:10] <Xcell> dror U might try enying
[18:11] <Xcell> google it
[18:11] <justme> so if somebody used Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Server he never had the problems
[18:11] <justme> right?
[18:11] <wols_> dror: glxinfo | grep direct
[18:11] <Xcell> envying
[18:11] <Xcell> *
[18:11] <anirudh0> Falling-Inferno, attack of the clones?
[18:11] <Orfeous> got problems installing my new webcam
[18:11] <oldenglish> Xcell don't you mean envyng?
[18:11] <anirudh0> Falling-Inferno, define "cloning"
[18:11] <Bogoss93> HELLO !
[18:11] <amenado> justme-> also its not just ubuntu, it affects other distros to that may have had their ssl keys generated with debian based systems
[18:11] <Xcell> yes
[18:11] <Xcell> sry
[18:11] <oldenglish> :)
[18:11] <Orfeous> Logitech Quickcam Communicate Deluxe!
[18:11] <Bogoss93> how are you ?
[18:11] <wols_> justme: I'd still test my ssl keys
[18:11] <Orfeous> its supported by the UVC driver..
[18:11] <Bogoss93> me i am fine
[18:11] <justme> wols_, I dont own any servers
[18:11] <justme> at the moment
[18:11] <anirudh0> amenado, i think only debian based ones got screwed
[18:11] <oldenglish> Nobody has any input on my problem??
[18:11] <amenado> justme goggle for that article..
[18:12] <wols_> justme: you still have libssl installed and you have ssl keys on your system
[18:12] <tripps> wols_, same thing
[18:12] <justme> yeah and i updated
[18:12] <justme> ;)
[18:12] <justme> everything.
[18:12] <amenado> anirudh0-> no one really knows until they do an audit
[18:12] <NeuroExploder> can someone help me? Im new to Ubuntu
[18:12] <wols_> tripps: have you restarted apache?
[18:12] <dror> wols_: "direct rendering: Yes"
[18:12] <Bogoss93> no one will help you n00b
[18:12] <tripps> wols_, yes
[18:12] <wols_> !help | NeuroExploder
[18:12] <oldenglish> NeuroExploder: Ask some questions and people will answer :)
[18:12] <wols_> Bogoss93: stop that. do you have a ubuntu related question?
[18:12] <spike__> grrrr
[18:13] <NeuroExploder> well im looking to install SRCDS on this OS.
[18:13] <Falling-Inferno> Cloning is Multiplying. My harddrive is making empty media folders and therefore is making icons repeatably on my desktop
[18:13] <tripps> wols_, force-reload and restart both to be sure
[18:13] <ompaul> !offtopic | Bogoss93
[18:13] <NeuroExploder> i host 3 Windows servers and I have problems with firewalls
[18:13] <justme> ompaul, he already left
[18:13] <justme> maybe you could set a ban
[18:13] <spike__> i am about to give up here
[18:13] <justme> on his host
[18:13] <justme> ;)
[18:13] <anirudh0> Falling-Inferno, does it mount itself in all these folders?...or only the last ones
[18:13] <dror> Xcell: more hints please? :)
[18:13] <justme> ALille-156-1-42-210.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr
[18:13] <cygoku> What's the packages name that will allow me to see QT4 and QT3 app the correct way for a Ubuntu Hardy Heron (Gnome) setup ??
[18:13] <wols_> NeuroExploder: until you tell us the problem no one will help you
[18:14] <tripps> this is my dev apache box and everything worked perfectly before the upgrade to 8 ;(
[18:14] <oldenglish> Anyone have any idea why I wouldn't be able to create new folders in a samba share in which I have permissions to do so when it is mapped on a windows machine??
[18:14] <Xcell> dror--  xpand on the issue
[18:14] <anirudh0> cygoku, for qt3, there's one..not for qt4 atm
[18:14] <NeuroExploder> i need to know how to open the bin file. Im not exactly sure how to.
[18:14] <Falling-Inferno> Only one folder it works the other ones are blanks with the same name and when i view the prefrences it says Free Space 0 Bytes Used Space 0 bytes.
[18:14] <anirudh0> cygoku, it makes gnome look like kde,not kde like gnome
[18:15] <anirudh0> Falling-Inferno, manually set a mount point
[18:15] <spike__> umm
[18:15] <justme> :) thx ompaul
[18:15] <Falling-Inferno> Ok. I will try.
[18:15] <anirudh0> Falling-Inferno, right click on icon>props>drive>mount options
[18:15] <afallenhope> Hey I put /home on a new partition, and I think it didn't save my permissions/ownerships because I've had nothing but bad luck. I had to "chown" the .dmrc and .ICEauthority files .. now my issues is with the "registry"
[18:15] <wols_> NeuroExploder: what bin file? whoever gave you that file also should tell you how to use it
[18:15] <dror> Xcell: I'm sorry, you lost me.. English isn't my first language. The details I wrote aren't enough?
[18:15] <cygoku> anirudh0 : I wish to install QT3 so I don't have this f-ugly Opera widget default gui.
[18:15] <NeuroExploder> i installed it from www.steampowered.com
[18:16] <afallenhope> although linux doesn't have a "registry" anytime I try to run a command from the "Run" I get a dialogue that says:The application "gnome-panel" attempted to change an aspect of your configuration that your system administrator or operating system vendor does not allow you to change. Some of the settings you have selected may not take effect, or may not be restored next time you use the application.
[18:16] <NeuroExploder> im not sure how to open it. i dont see a cmd option
[18:16] <Xcell> dror.. my back log is 2 big.. im guessing ur having nvidia problems?
[18:16] <KurtKraut> Is it possible to use compiz with XFCE ?
[18:16] <linkmaster03> Open Movie Editor doesn't play the movie in the corner, it just shows a picture of the movie. How can I fix this?
[18:16] <wols_> afallenhope: gnome has a registry
[18:16] <stemount^> !foo
[18:16] <afallenhope> wols_: okay.. well that's corrupted lol.
[18:16] <Xcell> lol
[18:16] <Falling-Inferno> How do i get rid of the Icons on my computer, restart does the trick but I don't like restarting due to issues with my BIOS.
[18:16] <stemount^> !foo is foo
[18:16] <anirudh0> cygoku, look at gtk-qt-engines in synaptic
[18:16] <ccooke> Falling-Inferno: which icons do you mean?
[18:16] <Pici> !msgthebot | stemount^
[18:16] <unavailable> !bar
[18:16] <_ZeuZ_> now this is seriously weak ^_^ kde 4.1 pretty much works well
[18:17] <oldenglish> come on, nobody has any idea why I wouldn't be able to create new folders in a samba share in which I have permissions to do so when it is mapped on a windows machine??
[18:17] <stemount^> Pici: sorry about that - I was just playing with the things that the bot does
[18:17] <Xcell> !info bar
[18:17] <unavailable> !info foo
[18:17] <cygoku> anirudh0 : Thank you ! :)
[18:17] <anirudh0> Falling-Inferno, dunno..but you can make _all_ icons invisible by using gconf
[18:17] <Firefishe> oldenglish:  are you mounted read only?
[18:17] <dror> Xcell: yes, NVidia issues :(
[18:17] <unavailable> !beer
[18:17] <dryrot> !info yum
[18:17] <oldenglish> Firefishe: I must be, let me double check.
[18:17] <Xcell> ok dror  what is the problem.. I might can help
[18:17] <unavailable> !free
[18:17] <Firefishe> oldenglish:  I've made that mistake here and again.
[18:17] <Pici> !msgthebot | unavailable
[18:18] <Xcell> unavailable--  please dont abuse the bot
[18:18] <Xcell> tx
[18:18] <dror> Xcell: My graphic card is NVIDIA GeForce 6150 + nForce 430. when I switch to use visual effects (normal or extra) - my computer is extremely slow
[18:18] <anirudh0> Pici, someone actually adds jokes to ubottu?
[18:18] <linkmaster03> Open Movie Editor doesn't play the movie in the corner, it just shows a picture of the movie. How can I fix this?
[18:18] <Xcell> dror.. pvt me
[18:18] <Pici> anirudh0: Yes.
[18:18] <anirudh0> :D
[18:18] <anirudh0> its the first bot that can tell jokes then ;)
[18:18] <oldenglish> Firefishe: I'm not sure where to check.
[18:19] <oldenglish> I mounted the drive using the "Connect to server" option
[18:19] <anirudh0> Pici, i'd dearly love to check.,..is there an example?
[18:19] <ompaul> anirudh0, not here join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:20] <anirudh0> ompaul, ah..but what is the command..for the jokes i mean
[18:20] <anirudh0> ompaul, ofcourse i'd check in PM
[18:20] <Firefishe> oldenglish:  hmmm...I'm not very well versed on samba shares.  Unless there's a setting within the samba control panel that lets you set how the share is mounted, I really wouln't know.
[18:20] <Firefishe> wouldn't
[18:20] <JonathanEllis> Hi,
[18:20] <LimCore> damn!  why ubuntu's does not provide /proc/config.gz :[ ?
[18:21] <linkmaster03> Open Movie Editor doesn't play the movie in the corner, it just shows a picture of the movie. How can I fix this?
[18:21] <afallenhope> oh when i click on details I get: Cannot overwrite existing read-only value: Cannot overwrite existing read-only value: Value for `/apps/gnome-settings/gnome-panel/history-gnome-run' set in a read-only source at the front of your configuration path
[18:21] <afallenhope> Cannot overwrite existing read-only value: Cannot overwrite existing read-only value: Value for `/apps/gnome-settings/gnome-panel/history-gnome-run' set in a read-only source at the front of your configuration path
[18:21] <JonathanEllis> Has anyone succesfully synced a Handspring TREO 90 Palm?
[18:21] <JonathanEllis> And does anyone know the irc channel for Gnoem-Pilot?
[18:22] <unavailable> so what jokes does ubottu know
[18:22] <ASULutzy> !joke
[18:22] <biff_tannen> hi guys. have a bit of an issue.  my usb ports aren't working with a fresh install of hardy my flashpen doesn't light up on the led to show power is going to it.  any ideas????
[18:22] <unavailable> that does not tell me
[18:22] <Myrtti> unavailable: none
[18:23]  * biff_tannen is in need of help
[18:23] <ASULutzy> unavailable: Looks like ubottu doesn't have a good sense of humor ;)
[18:23] <anirudh0> biff_tannen, plug it in..post dmesg|taiil
[18:23] <unavailable> lol
[18:23] <rockstar> I just rebooted my machine, and now, the Gnome panel with my application menu isn't showing up anymore.  Anyone have a clue why?
[18:23] <anirudh0> biff_tannen, also post lsusb
[18:23] <biff_tannen> anirudh0: 2 secs
[18:23] <Myrtti> !paste | biff_tannen
[18:23] <unavailable> rockstar  try right click "add to panel"
[18:23] <anirudh0> ASULutzy, no luck..already tried that !funny hangs ubottu though :)
[18:23] <xFlipx> afternoon everybody
[18:24] <Xcell> hi xFlipx
[18:24] <tripps> PEAR also disappeared during upgrade. can't find package. where do I find it?
[18:24] <rockstar> unavailable, no, that whole panel isn't showing up...
[18:25] <unavailable> rockstar is the other one there?
[18:25] <Scunizi> I'm trying to create a shortcut launcher on my desktop to a program in /home/<username>/<subdirectory>.  If I cd to that directory and ./<program> it works but building a launcher on the desktop seems to be difficult.
[18:25] <unavailable> if so make a new one
[18:25] <biff_tannen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19677/
[18:25] <lightrush> I need a person with not working suspend and a laptop with Intel/NVIDIA combo :)
[18:25] <biff_tannen> an
[18:25] <tripps> n/m found it. man ubuntu upgrade totally foobars your configs!!
[18:25] <biff_tannen> anirudh0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19677/
[18:25] <Scunizi> Sorry.. how do I build a launcher successfully? <see above post by me>
[18:25] <anirudh0> tripps, pearpc?
[18:25] <anirudh0> rockstar, you could always add a new panel
[18:25] <tripps> why would upgrading to heron basically throw out my entire web server config?
[18:25] <net> how can i install Need For Speed Most Wanted in ubuntu hardy...
[18:26] <KurtKraut> Is it possible to have Compiz in Xubuntu without XGL ?
[18:26] <biff_tannen> Myrtti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19677/
[18:26] <tripps> including apache2 itself??
[18:26] <rockstar> unavailable, how do I add a new one?  I don't see an option?
[18:26]  * biff_tannen know's how pastebin works ;)
[18:26] <tripps> anirudh0, php=pear
[18:26] <anirudh0> tripps, uhh..sorry..i badly misguessed
[18:26]  * belendax away
[18:26] <tripps> php-pear
[18:26] <rockstar> Something is wrong.  Alt-F2 doesn't work either.
[18:26] <lightrush> I need a person with not working suspend and a laptop with Intel/NVIDIA combo :)
[18:26]  * belendax hi
[18:26] <anirudh0> rockstar, open terminal..type gnome-panel..or gmrun
[18:27] <wols_> KurtKraut: yes. with AIGLX
[18:27] <rockstar> In order to run anything, I have to Ctrl-Alt-F1, set the display in that tty to my X window, and then run apps.
[18:27] <net> tripps,how can i install Need For Speed Most Wanted in ubuntu hardy...
[18:27] <wols_> KurtKraut: depending on your videocard and its drivers
[18:27] <tripps> net, ?
[18:27] <wols_> net: appdb.winehq.org
[18:27] <KurtKraut> wols_: it is an Intel videocard... it is an Eee PC
[18:27] <wols_> !compiz | KurtKraut
[18:28] <JonathanEllis> Hi. I know this is off-topic but does anyone know an IRC channel for Gnome-Pilot or how reliable the Handspring Treo 90 Palm is and how well it syncs? And whether the device is easy to use.
[18:28] <wols_> JonathanEllis: since you know you are OT why do you even ask? please go away
[18:28] <JonathanEllis> Because someone may know the answer
[18:29] <wols_> JonathanEllis: you're still rude and OT
[18:29] <net> wols , i installed wine....But it asks directX 9
[18:29] <rockstar> anirudh0, gnome-panel doesn't seem to be installed anymore.  WTF?!
[18:29] <wols_> net: go to the url I gave you and check
[18:29] <biff_tannen> anirudh0: its a Silicon Integrated Systems controller
[18:29] <mypapit> rockstar, language please, we like to keep this channel family friendly
[18:30] <Nostahl> hi all.... how do i chmod my external disk drive so my user account can use it
[18:30] <afallenhope> how come I can't write to my /media/disk?
[18:30] <JonathanEllis> Wols_: I'm sorry if my question upsets you but I thought the way I asked it was fairly polite.
[18:30] <Xcell> halp! My Ubuntu aint broke....lol
[18:30] <anirudh0> rockstar, try which "gnome-panel"
[18:30] <DarkAudit> The Firefox in -proposed is the final release version?
[18:30] <afallenhope> it says it's readonly.
[18:30] <Scunizi> JonathanEllis: google was my friend.. irc.pilot-link.org #pilot-link
[18:30] <anirudh0> JonathanEllis, it was.. wols_ is pissed off by something
[18:30] <ompaul> JonathanEllis, you are going further offtopic please don't
[18:30] <wols_> afallenhope: "mount" output please
[18:30] <biff_tannen> anirudh0: any ideas
[18:30] <rockstar> mypapit, I actually don't use that F-word.  You've never heard someone say "What the freak?"
[18:30] <anirudh0> biff_tannen, one sec
[18:30] <zooko> I think that apt-file doesn't work in dapper, because dapper apt repositories don't have Contents-$arch.gz files.
[18:30] <ElVirolo> hi everyone
[18:30] <zooko> Does that make sense?
[18:30] <JonathanEllis> Scunizi: Thank you for your help
[18:31] <biff_tannen> anirudh0: cool
[18:31] <tripps> arggh!!!!! WTF did ubuntu throw out all my files/settings/programs? installed php-pear but no DB.php and other files that have always been with PEAR libs. what gives?
[18:31] <zooko> Is it that back when dapper was produced, the Ubuntu folks didn't produce such Contents-$arch.gz files?
[18:31] <ElVirolo> i  have a ntfs partition with windows xp in /dev/sda3 and I'd like to edit my GRUB menu.lst accordindly but it can't make it work ... do I have to use the "map" command?
[18:31] <wols_> JonathanEllis: knowingly going into a channel and asking OT questions where you know it's OT, is always rude to the people there. no matter how polite the question itself is
[18:31] <mypapit> rockstar, ok wtf back then
[18:31] <afallenhope> wols_: basically I popped in the SD card... and I clicked "Places" then "SD Card" and I have it mounted on my desktop.
[18:31] <wols_> JonathanEllis: since you waste other people's time
[18:31] <Xcell> hey tripps  watch it son
[18:31] <wols_> afallenhope: come back when you can do what I asked you
[18:31] <afallenhope> oops sorry
[18:31] <zooko> If that's the case then there will be no way for me to get apt-file working on dapper.
[18:32] <JonathanEllis> Wols_: Hmmm. Well, if someone can direct me to the correct place, I dont see the harm
[18:32] <wols_> !OT | JonathanEllis
[18:32] <tripps> Xcell, watching it. definitely not a "son" - thanks.
[18:32] <afallenhope> wols_: /dev/sdb1 on /media/disk type vfat (ro,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,flush)
[18:32] <DarkAudit> posting on Planet Ubuntu says hardy-proposed has the actual release version of Firefox 3. Is this correct?
[18:32] <anirudh0> biff_tannen, does lsusb show something?..also what was your exact problem..not mounting?
[18:32] <ompaul> JonathanEllis, you are going further offtopic please don't
[18:32] <wols_> afallenhope: set a different umask. try 002 for example. also set gid
[18:33] <afallenhope> wols_: I don't know how to do that.
[18:33] <wols_> afallenhope: oh, it's mounted ro too. remount rw
[18:33] <Falling-Inferno> I accidently deleted a files that were in my recyling bin that were my dads pictures Oo HOW Do i get them back?
[18:33] <Falling-Inferno> I hit the empty recycle bin!
[18:33] <tripps> ok see that all pear libs are separate packages
[18:33] <wols_> Falling-Inferno: ext3?
[18:33] <Falling-Inferno> ?
[18:33] <Chousuke> Falling-Inferno: you might be screwed.
[18:33] <Chousuke> :P
[18:33] <Xcell> Falling-Inferno--  good luck
[18:33] <ompaul> !recover | Falling-Inferno
[18:33] <biff_tannen> anirudh0: it was in that pastebin.  my usb flashpen doesn't lightup or mount.  my usb HDD does power up but ahs the ofrce option required as it was an unclean shutdown form win
[18:33] <DarkAudit> Falling-Inferno: he was asking if your filesystem was ext3
[18:33] <tripps> again, would like to know why upgrade to hardy threw out all my needed dependencies and programs. should I submit a bug?
[18:34] <Xcell> yes
[18:34]  * biff_tannen has been drinking
[18:34] <Falling-Inferno> What?
[18:34] <afallenhope> wols_: do you remember my issue yesterday/? with having /home on a separate partition.. that's why all this is screwing up.
[18:34] <ompaul> !offtopic | biff_tannen
[18:34] <ompaul> !recover | Falling-Inferno
[18:34] <Xcell> Falling-Inferno--  gonzo
[18:34] <wols_> tripps:any backports, any custom compiled software?
[18:34] <belendax> away
[18:34] <biff_tannen> ompaul: wtf are you on about
[18:34] <tripps> wols_, no none
[18:34] <Chousuke> Falling-Inferno: there's no simple way to recover files from ext3 filesystems (the default in ubuntu)
[18:34] <elmer> Is their a command that I can run that will constantly update to tell me the strength of my WiFi connection?
[18:35] <wols_> afallenhope: I do remember. my guess is you didn't use cp -a or such
[18:35] <ompaul> biff_tannen, your claim to be drinking
[18:35] <biff_tannen> ompaul: this is UBUNTU RELATED
[18:35] <Falling-Inferno> Im using ubuntu and it was on a external hard drive formated as msdos.
[18:35] <Xcell> biff_tannen--  no wtf's are allowed tx
[18:35] <Chousuke> ah,
[18:35] <biff_tannen> ompaul: fair enough
[18:35] <wols_> afallenhope: next time you pull a stund like this you delete the old /home and stuff AFTER you confirmed the new one works
[18:35] <Chousuke> Falling-Inferno: in that case, it's fat32
[18:35] <biff_tannen> Xcell: ;) k
[18:35] <Chousuke> Falling-Inferno: in that case it might be easier
[18:35] <anirudh0> Falling-Inferno, they are lost...look at http://recover.sourceforge.net/linux/ though
[18:35] <wols_> Falling-Inferno: unplug it and don't write to it anymore. you still have a chance to recover some files there
[18:36] <afallenhope> wols_: duely noted lol.
[18:36] <strtok> anyone know what command to use to get the gnome toolbar back? i xkilled a startup window that hung and it killed gnome
[18:36] <natalisushka> Hey ppl. I need to install windows and ubuntu on the same machine, and I want to be able to access the windows partition, what is best to create for windows installation that will be best readable by ubuntu, fat or ntfs?
[18:36] <wols_> Falling-Inferno: generally, windows has better undelete tools for FAT than linux tho. so you might want to try under windows
[18:36] <anirudh0> ompaul, why kill all the joy in the world?
[18:36] <afallenhope> wols_: I'm pretty much going to restart with a fresh install anyways.. I just want to get all my stuff off it on to my SD card... and then reinstall.
[18:36] <biff_tannen> anirudh0: agreed
[18:36] <Chousuke> Falling-Inferno: if your pictures were *really* important, unplug the drive and take it to a data recovery expert
[18:36] <tripps> wols_, I did note during the upgrade that at the last step it asked me if I wanted to remove all the suggested programs and there were dozens if not 100+ such programs (presumably including all these). I came in here to ask if that meant it was removing duplicate, upgraded files, or orphaned (which they were apparently) files. I was told the former, hence I said ok. Hence it removed them all. Obviously not the correct behavior.
[18:36] <ompaul> anirudh0, this channel is too busy for offtopic comments - it is for support _only_
[18:36] <wols_> afallenhope: mount -o remount,rw <path to sd card>
[18:37] <biff_tannen> anirudh0: any thoughts on why this might eb
[18:37] <anirudh0> Falling-Inferno, also look at recover.sourceforge.net
[18:37] <elmer> Is their a command that I can run that will tell me the strength of my WiFi connection?
[18:37] <Nostahl> !chmod
[18:37] <biff_tannen> anirudh0: _be
[18:37] <wols_> elmer: iwconfig in a way
[18:37] <zooko> Does anyone know why apt-file (in dapper) searches for a file like "http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/Contents-i386.gz" when there is no such file at that location?
[18:37] <BoltClock> i wish to download firefox 3 and count that download into the world record attempt. but if i download it then install it over my current installation that means its going to 'break' the package manager right? what should i do then, since i want firefox 3 as soon as it's out?
[18:37] <elmer> wols_, it will show the strength of the connection?
[18:37] <wols_> !dapper
[18:37] <natalisushka> Hey ppl. I need to install windows and ubuntu on the same machine, and I want to be able to access the windows partition, what is best to create for windows installation that will be best readable by ubuntu, fat or ntfs?
[18:38] <Chousuke> tripps: try installing the ubuntu-desktop metapackage
[18:38] <choudesh> elmer, look at iwlist
[18:38] <anirudh0> biff_tannen, type sudo mount -vt auto /dev/<device> <mountpoint>..check device using ls /dev/sd*
[18:38] <Chousuke> tripps: or kubuntu-desktop, if you use kubuntu
[18:38] <wols_> zooko: it's the security updates for dapper. which should exist: dapper is still in support
[18:38] <Falling-Inferno> Its unplugged, I deleted my dad's files! and hes in IRAQ. I got 1 year to get them back or untill my mom finds out!
[18:38] <anirudh0> natalisushka, fat
[18:38] <IndyGunFreak> natalisushka: ubuntu by default, will read NTFS
[18:38] <biff_tannen> anirudh0: 2 secs
[18:38] <anirudh0> Falling-Inferno, :)
[18:38] <zooko> wols_: the Contents-$arch.gz file does not exist.
[18:38] <wols_> Falling-Inferno: I told you what to do
[18:38] <zooko> Nor in Hardy, I notice.
[18:38] <natalisushka> anirudh0, Why?
[18:38] <tripps> Chousuke, kind  of shy to try that now that I'm getting things back the way they were ;)
[18:38] <natalisushka> IndyGunFreak, SO is there a difference?
[18:39] <elmer> choudesh, I am confused. Would it be like this: "iwlist wlan0 power"?
[18:39] <zooko> So I infer that the version of apt-file which comes with dapper (universe) doesn't know how Ubuntu organizes its apt repos.
[18:39] <anirudh0> natalisushka, linux has problems with permissions on ntfs
[18:39] <IndyGunFreak> natalisushka: what do you mean is there a difference?
[18:39] <Chousuke> tripps: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that depends on all the standard ubuntu packages
[18:39] <IndyGunFreak> anirudh0: it does?.. i've had no permission issues at all.
[18:39] <natalisushka> IndyGunFreak, I mean in the way ubuntu read both
[18:39] <Chousuke> tripps: it's a good way to get them all installed if you somehow uninstalled everything
[18:39] <IndyGunFreak> natalisushka: yes, ubuntu will read/write both
[18:39] <natalisushka> So I'll go for fat.
[18:39] <Saladin> Hiya, how do you rest your window chrome? Mine has disappeared.
[18:39] <anirudh0> IndyGunFreak, you cant set permissions on a file on a ntfs partition..atleast with ntfs-3g
[18:39] <tripps> Chousuke, does that include apache2, etc.?
[18:39] <Chousuke> tripps: no
[18:40] <choudesh> elmer, just man it - or look at iwconfig Signal Power
[18:40] <afallenhope> wols_: afallenhope@afh:~$ sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/sb1
[18:40] <afallenhope> mount: can't find /dev/sb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[18:40] <Chousuke> tripps: apache2 is not part of the default install
[18:40] <IndyGunFreak> anirudh0: you don't need ntfs-3g in Hardy
[18:40] <anirudh0> IndyGunFreak, problem is not r/w..permissions are a differnet issue
[18:40] <tripps> Chousuke, and that's where I'm having the problem
[18:40] <anirudh0> IndyGunFreak, i know :)
[18:40] <IndyGunFreak> anirudh0: ..so
[18:40] <elmer> choudesh, I like this: iwconfig wlan0 | grep Link
[18:40] <Chousuke> tripps: so your apache2 got deinstalled?
[18:40] <_ZeuZ_> is there any tool for KDE4 to manage the battery and the current power scheme?
[18:40] <Chousuke> tripps: just reinstall it? :)
[18:40] <tripps> Chousuke, it's almost like during the upgrade it removed everything that _wasn't_ in the desktop metapackage
[18:40] <wols_> afallenhope: according to your mount output earlier it does
[18:40] <Chousuke> tripps: well that shouldn't happen
[18:40] <wols_> !info kbattery
[18:40] <elmer> now how do I run it once a second =/
[18:40] <anirudh0> IndyGunFreak, you do need ntfs-3g
[18:41] <IndyGunFreak> anirudh0: i dont have itl.
[18:41] <Chousuke> tripps: using any non-ubuntu repos?
[18:41] <DarkAudit> !firefox3
[18:41] <Xcell> !battery
[18:41] <tripps> Chousuke, yes I reinstalled it and dozens of other files that I needed for my config. that included many customized files I'm having to diff, etc. serious pain.
[18:41] <anirudh0> IndyGunFreak,  check which mount.ntfs..then do a file /sbin/mount.ntfs
[18:41] <Saladin> Also, for some reason, Ubuntu is telling me I need to reinstall all the upgrade updates again. Anyone have any ideas why?
[18:41] <natalisushka> IndyGunFreak, anirudh0 said linux has problems with permissions on ntfs .. but you said it can read both .. so where is the problem? I remember that was a problem a couple of years ago (problems with permissions) did that change?
[18:41] <wols_> !info kismet
[18:41] <anirudh0> IndyGunFreak, it is there..under the hood
[18:41] <_ZeuZ_> wols_ seems like there's nothing for KDE4 and battery ^_^
[18:41] <afallenhope> wols_: mount: block device /dev/sdb1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[18:41] <wols_> afallenhope: there you have it
[18:41] <Rotlaus> is there something like autostart for fluxbox?
[18:41] <tripps> Chousuke, I don't believe so. medibuntu and maybe ugly repos
[18:41] <anirudh0> natalisushka, read/write.and permissions are seperate
[18:41] <afallenhope> wols_: so... I'm pretty well screwed?
[18:41] <wols_> _ZeuZ_: kde4 is for _developers_ only. not for users like you
[18:41] <IndyGunFreak> anirudh0: all i know, is i have no probs w/ my ntfs partitions.
[18:41] <anirudh0> natalisushka, linux can read/write..linux cannot set permissions
[18:42] <_ZeuZ_> wols_ :D
[18:42] <wols_> afallenhope: remove the write protection
[18:42] <anirudh0> IndyGunFreak, thats the good part :)
[18:42] <Xcell> !info power
[18:42] <_ZeuZ_> I'm brave, and I've allready reported 4 plasma issues
[18:42] <choudesh> elmer, link gives quality (factoring in errored packets and what not), signal gives RSSI (recieve signal strength)
[18:42] <Chousuke> tripps: anyway, that really shouldn't happen. But since I don't know what exactly you did, all I can say is good luck fixing it :/
[18:42] <afallenhope> wols_: I'm not sure on how to do that. sorry.
[18:42] <anirudh0> IndyGunFreak, evrything except chmod will work fine
[18:42] <natalisushka> anirudh0, Oh I see! well .. I think fat it is
[18:42] <tripps> Chousuke, no only basic sources. canonical and multiverse, etc.
[18:42] <river> hola
[18:42] <_ZeuZ_> (I beleave everyone is reporting those errors)
[18:42] <wols_> afallenhope: since I don't own your card, me neither
[18:42] <Gumersindo> ola
[18:42] <_ZeuZ_> river: si hablas espa;ol, anda a #ubuntu-es
[18:42] <tripps> Chousuke, should I file a bug? something went very wrong for sure
[18:42] <anirudh0> _ZeuZ_, kubuntu packages?
[18:42] <chrols> Hey does anyone here have any idea how to remap the keyboard for Ctrl key presses? For example if i press Ctrl-C I want it changed to Ctrl-Z while if I press the key unmodified I get the letter remaining C. I can't seem to figure out how to achive this reading up on xkb and xmodmap
[18:42] <IndyGunFreak> anirudh0: well why would i need to chmod something on my NTFS partition?
[18:42] <elmer> choudesh, Ah. I see. Well they're both on the same line so they both show up
[18:42] <river> ok gracias
[18:42] <tripps> Chousuke, shouldn't there be a log of the upgrade?
[18:42] <DarkAudit> word is hardy-proposed has the final release of Firefox 3 ahead of schedule... can anyone confirm or deny?
[18:43] <Chousuke> tripps: I don't know.
[18:43] <Chousuke> tripps: you might file a bug, though
[18:43] <Xcell> lol.. ahead of schedual
[18:43] <wols_> IndyGunFreak: you can't
[18:43] <Xcell> 2 funny
[18:43] <choudesh> elmer, raw vales are in /proc/sys/net/wireless
[18:43] <Chousuke> tripps: doesn't hurt
[18:43] <anirudh0> IndyGunFreak, the lack of chmod support means, for instance, that a ntfs drive cant be /home
[18:43] <choudesh> elmer, errr, /proc/net/wireless
[18:43] <IndyGunFreak> wols_: i know, my point is, why would you need to?
[18:43] <elmer> choudesh, thanks
[18:43] <afallenhope>  when I try to unmountit I get: umount: /media/disk: device is busy
[18:43] <wols_> IndyGunFreak: that is moot since you can't
[18:43] <IndyGunFreak> anirudh0: why would you want an ntfs partition to be home?
[18:43] <_ZeuZ_> how can I see what frecuency is my processor clocked at now?
[18:43] <anirudh0> IndyGunFreak, why not
[18:43] <DarkAudit> Xcell: release date is supposed to be the 17th
[18:43] <net> wols.useful link...thanks
[18:43] <wols_> afallenhope: then something is using it somewhere. lsof
[18:43] <choudesh> chrols, man xmodmap
[18:43] <Xcell> ah
[18:43] <Chousuke> afallenhope: that means something is keeping files on the drive open
[18:44] <Xcell> ok
[18:44] <guerby> hi, could someone with firefox confirm that the picture on about: says version 1.9 (and not 3.0) ?
[18:44] <net> wols.useful link...thanks...
[18:44] <anirudh0> IndyGunFreak, ideally i should be able to choose any filesystem
[18:44] <net> wols.useful link...thanks...
[18:44] <net> wols.useful link...thanks...
[18:44] <egal> hello
[18:44] <IndyGunFreak> anirudh0: you're not making any sense, so i'll just drop this
[18:44] <wols_> net: stop that!
[18:44] <river> como voy a ubunto es?
[18:44] <net> wols  , useful link...thanks...
[18:44] <Saladin> So yeah, how do I reset my window chrome, the bit with the buttons for closing, minimising windows etc etc
[18:44] <egal> anyone here with an samsung r45?
[18:44] <Xcell> with bugs installed?...lol.. j/k
[18:44] <anirudh0> IndyGunFreak, my feellings exactly
[18:44] <net> wols  , useful link...thanks...
[18:44] <net> how can i install Need For Speed Most Wanted in ubuntu hardy...
[18:44] <wols_> ompaul: lart him please
[18:44] <anirudh0> *feelings
[18:44] <net> wols  , useful link...thanks...
[18:44] <lars_bauer> When i try to install a data base from open office it says that i got a wrong jre , how do i get a  jre that work for mee :-)
[18:44] <net> wols  , useful link...thanks...
[18:44] <tripps> one of the MAJOR suggestions for upgrades is to have a "transaction rollback"  feature in case an upgrade goes horribly wrong that exactly goes to prior state. wouldn't be that hard to do. don't know why it hasn't been done.
[18:44] <net> wols  , useful link...thanks...
[18:44] <ASULutzy> Is net spamming or is it just me
[18:44] <Chousuke> !ops | net
[18:44] <IndyGunFreak> i ask you why would you want to chmod an ntfs partition, or put home there, and you simply respond, "why not".. now who's not making sense?
[18:44] <wols_> !ops net has a stuck key
[18:44] <egal> on this r45 I have only a sound on my headjack, no sound on the speakers.
[18:45] <Saladin> I had to do it once before, but forgot the command
[18:45] <afallenhope> there's nothing is lsof | grep /media/disk
[18:45] <anirudh0> IndyGunFreak, do you understand the statement ..."i should be free to choose the filesystem for /home"?
[18:45] <Xcell> Ill say this.. ff3.. is extremely fast.. puts opera to shame... good job mozilla.
[18:45] <amrik> my keyboard doesn't work in wine :(
[18:45] <afallenhope> nvm
[18:45] <afallenhope>  lol
[18:45] <IndyGunFreak> anirudh0: i understand you can't answer a question
[18:45] <anirudh0> Xcell, fast and memory effiecient
[18:45] <Chousuke> anirudh0: you are.
[18:46] <Chousuke> anirudh0: however, NTFS is not very well supported
[18:46] <t35t0r> Xcell, i did a javascript sunspider benchmark of opera 9.5 vs firefox rc3 ..rc3 is indeed faster on the entire test by 5seconds
[18:46] <Xcell> opera needs some linux help... lol
[18:46] <anirudh0> IndyGunFreak, :)..and i understand you cant understand an answer...so i'll drop this
[18:46] <IndyGunFreak> thank you
[18:46] <chrols> choudesh: Rereading the manpage I can't say I see how I would acheive the effect I wanted
[18:46] <t35t0r> Xcell, considering when then entire test takes 8.5 cpu seconds on firefox and 13 cpu seconds on opera 9.5
[18:46] <anirudh0> Chousuke, which is what i was trying to tell him in the first place :)
[18:46] <Xcell> hey.. if opera had no script.. ff would starve
[18:47] <zooko> Ah: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-file/+bug/181312
[18:47] <choudesh> chrols, xmodmap -e 'keycode 111=F1' would remap keycode 111 to F1
[18:47] <Chousuke> anirudh0: using NTFS for /home would be stupid though.
[18:47] <t35t0r> and i can't get vimperator in opera so i don
[18:47] <Luig1> there's a thunderstorm going on at my house, and I'm trying to tarball 30gb of data from an unbootable computer to an external HDD. Will the filesystems (ext3 on the unbootable computer, ext2 on the external HDD) become corrupted if the power goes out?
[18:47] <t35t0r> i don't use opera
[18:47] <Chousuke> anirudh0: since it's not very well supported, and chmod doesn't really work for it.
[18:47] <t35t0r> Luig1, no
[18:47] <zooko> Although I don't see why it is invalid.
[18:47] <gonzzor> How do I list files in a package?
[18:47]  * anirudh0 sighs
[18:47] <t35t0r> Luig1, only if you were using xfs would you have to worry about something like that
[18:47] <Xcell> check
[18:47] <Chousuke> Luig1: ext2 might
[18:48] <afallenhope> how do you copy a folder? sudo cp -r?
[18:48] <Chousuke> Luig1: ext3 should be fine
[18:48] <lmosher> When I remove my USB mouse, the entry dissapears in /dev/input/by-id/, but when I plug it in again, it doesn't come back. My mouse's function depends on this listing, any ideas?
[18:48] <t35t0r> gonzzor, deb-view ?
[18:48] <net_> wols ,  sorry ..my xchat was stuck and not shows anything for some time ..thats why sorry once again
[18:48] <Chousuke> afallenhope: just cp -r
[18:48] <t35t0r> deb-gview ?
[18:48] <Chousuke> afallenhope: that is, if you have read access
[18:48] <chrols> choudesh: Yes, but the keycode remains the same regardless wherever the Ctrl key is pressed or not, atleast that's what I'm getting with xev
[18:48] <Starnestommy> afallenhope: cp -r.  Only use sudo cp -r if you need root access to do it
[18:48] <Luig1> Ok, thanks everyone!
[18:48] <philsf> hi, I wish to report a bug for a page in wiki.u.c, do I post it under ubuntu-website project?
[18:48] <ASULutzy> net_: Yea, it was pretty apparent it was a stuck key
[18:48] <gonzzor> t35t0r: Not possible in console?
[18:49] <afallenhope> there was a notch on the card that gave it read/write access.. I didn't know that lol.
[18:49] <chrols> choudesh: I might have been unclear in my question, but I wish the remapping to only occur when the ctrl key is pressed
[18:49] <PeterP24> hi, do you know a mp3 cutter with a nice front end?
[18:49] <ASULutzy> I always use cp -ax for backing stuff up. If you just use -r you run the risk of copying say, the stuff in /media/ which could be on a whole nother drive
[18:49] <ASULutzy> You want to stay on a single file system generally when backing up
[18:50] <anirudh0> ASULutzy, hmm...would'nt backing up make more sense from a livecd then
[18:50] <afallenhope> what groups is my username supposed to be under? like what are the defaults? I really don't want to reinstall.
[18:50] <anirudh0> ASULutzy, that way you avoid copying spurious entries in /dev
[18:50] <t35t0r> gonzzor, deb-view is a cli utility i think
[18:50] <Saladin> I guess no one knows the answer to my questions?
[18:50] <t35t0r> never used it i think
[18:51] <t35t0r> what was your question
[18:51] <choudesh> chrols, I see. One sec.
[18:51] <t35t0r> go to window preferences
[18:51] <gonzzor> t35t0r: I want to find out what files a certain package has installed
[18:51] <Saladin> My window chromes have all disappeared - the bit with the close, minimise etc buttons on it.
[18:52] <t35t0r> dpkg -L<
[18:52] <Saladin> How can I reset them, so they appear again?
[18:52] <t35t0r> dpkg -L packageName
[18:52] <anirudh0> Saladin, alt+f2..metacity
[18:52] <gonzzor> t35t0r: Thanks
[18:52] <t35t0r> i thought you wanted to view what's inside a .deb
[18:52] <t35t0r> man dpkg
[18:52] <gonzzor> t35t0r: Thats dpkg -c :)
[18:52] <anirudh0> t35t0r, even ar can show that..ar deb-name
[18:52] <t35t0r> oh nice
[18:53] <Saladin> t35t0r: That didn't do anything
[18:53] <NeuroExploder> what do you type in boot options woth the live to wipe a hard drive completely clean?
[18:53] <anirudh0> Saladin, talking to me?
[18:53] <choudesh> chrols, ok - apt-get install xkeysmap
[18:53] <t35t0r> he messed up his window decorations or something
[18:53] <gnu_> re
[18:53] <linny> hello i am new to linux and ubuntu I've recently gone windows free:) I'm having some trouble with sound. i have a sound blaster audigy 2 i think its a zs i have disabled onboard sound i can get sound if im using vlc for video or mp3 but i get no sound from firefox or opera eg like a myspace site or you tube ? i have flash in firefox i cant figure out how in opera but thats not the issue atm any help will be greatly appreciated
[18:53] <anirudh0> Saladin, open a terminal..type metacity --replace
[18:54] <choudesh> chrols, press ctrl on the screen and look at the KeySym that if gives you...so, CTRL+PGUP is PRIOR
[18:54] <anirudh0> !pulse | linny
[18:54] <choudesh> chrols, errr, ^PRIOR
[18:54] <Vic1ous> Hey Guys, how would this work for a good partition build? http://pastebin.com/m2b37d2d3
[18:54] <linny> thank you
[18:54] <Saladin> Yes, that is the command! Thank you! I had forgotten it.
[18:54] <linny> ill check it out now
[18:54] <Xcell> !sound | linny
[18:55] <afallenhope> how can I chown an entire directory? Because I want to chown my /home/afallenhope
[18:55] <chrols> choudesh: Is xkeysmap right? Doesn't seem to be in my repositories
[18:55] <Saladin> Also, my other question was about the fact Ubuntu is asking me to reinstall all my upgrade files... Any ideas why?
[18:55] <t35t0r> dmix
[18:55] <choudesh> chrols, xkeycaps
[18:55] <choudesh> chrols, sorry. Then just add the key combo into ~/.Xmodmap
[18:55] <anirudh0> Saladin, please clarify  the question.."reinstall upgrade files"
[18:56] <Ahadiel> afallenhope, it's either chown -R or -r
[18:56] <Tanwir> I'm trying to install Ubuntu in VirtualBox, should I use the linux-virtual kernel or linux-image-virtual kernel, or something else?
[18:56] <kreib> please help with grub issue, xp will not boot
[18:56] <philsf> I wish to report a bug for a page in wiki.u.c, do I post it under ubuntu-website project?
[18:56] <Solaris444> Hi guys... what's comes after pipe if I want to press a key to see the rest of the output of my command?
[18:56] <neurobuntu> anybody here having issues with gmail in evolution (I'm running hardy, but had same problem with Gutsy)
[18:56] <Lo_Pan> |more
[18:56] <Xcell> !grub | kreib
[18:56] <Solaris444> I thought it was "more"
[18:56] <Solaris444> oh.
[18:56] <anirudh0> Solaris444, y
[18:56] <Solaris444> that's odd because it didn't work.
[18:57] <Solaris444> hold on let me check again
[18:57] <neurobuntu> Solaris444 try | less
[18:57] <Saladin> anirudh0: Basically, it is telling me that there are updates available, and all of them are the upgrade files... When I tried to install them, it says something about an incomplete upgrade, then won't allow the updates to properly install.
[18:57] <kreib> no didnt loose grub after installing. installed xp on another disk, ubuntu still boots fine
[18:57] <Khisanth> philsf: you can't edit the page?
[18:57] <lordleemo> croatia 2 germany 1
[18:57] <philsf> Khisanth: I could, but don't have the time right now.
[18:57] <ASULutzy> neurobuntu: I use gmail just fine with evolution
[18:57] <anirudh0> Saladin, do dist-upgrade instead of upgrade
[18:57] <kreib> xp is on the second drive o nthe first partition
[18:57] <philsf> Khisanth: however, I think it's an important issue
[18:58] <anirudh0> neurobuntu, ports open?
[18:58] <neurobuntu> ASULutzy, do you ever get password problems? I frequently have to renter my password several times,
[18:58] <kreib> I tried root hd(1,0)
[18:58] <neurobuntu> I mean it works 75% of the time
[18:58] <anirudh0> philsf, think or know?
[18:58] <ASULutzy> neurobuntu: Nope?
[18:58] <unavailable> rockstar right click on the one thats there (if you have the bottom one still) and select add new panel
[18:58] <Saladin> anirudh0: I did an upgrade the day Hardy came out, and it has only in the past few days shown this thing. Which is why I am so confused.
[18:58] <afallenhope> most of all my files in /home/afallenhope are part of group "root" so should I just change the group to afallenhope?
[18:58] <philsf> anirudh0: know
[18:59] <Solaris444> hmmm
[18:59] <Solaris444> I need to rebuild my reiserfs tree but fsck won't run.
[18:59] <anirudh0> philsf, i think version history is shown on the wiki..find out who wrote it, then mail and clarify
[18:59] <anirudh0> philsf, imho
[18:59] <FuRom> Anyone know of an equivalent for "actual search and replace"? I need to search through a crap load of text documents. =/
[18:59] <Solaris444> I tried: fsck -r -t reiserfs /dev/hda3 --rebuild-tree
[18:59] <Solaris444> that didn't seem to work.
[18:59] <anirudh0> FuRom, grep
[19:00] <Solaris444> thanks neurobuntu
[19:00] <neurobuntu> np
[19:00] <neurobuntu> ubottu have you had lunch?
[19:00] <philsf> anirudh0, Khisanth: it makes a big confusion for newcomers that try to setup palm devices - the instructions are terribly outdated, and the method described there is not recommended anymore, AFAIK
[19:00] <justme> lol
[19:00] <neurobuntu> ubottu yes, but even stupid bots need to eat
[19:00] <philsf> anirudh0: good point, I'll look into it
[19:00] <tripps> ugh - it had uninstalled phpmyadmin even. who knows what else it got rid of?
[19:00] <justme> that's funny :D
[19:00] <Vic1ous> Hey Guys, how would this work for my partitions? http://pastebin.com/m2b37d2d3
[19:00] <anirudh0> philsf, you could always start a new wiki page
[19:00] <neurobuntu> ubottu: ok fine chill out
[19:00] <justme> ubottu, are you tired?
[19:00] <justme> LOL
[19:00] <FuRom> anirudh0, thanks
[19:00] <afallenhope> how about this.... is there an easier way of replacing all ownerships and all permissions back to normal without losing 1.) information on my /var/wwww drive 2.) losing information at all?
[19:01] <Xcell> !all knowing
[19:01] <Xcell> dang
[19:01] <Xcell> lol
[19:01] <justme> !google
[19:01] <philsf> anirudh0: that's why I thought of a bug report, so there could be some discussion between others that know how to do it right, and craft a consensus text
[19:01] <chrols> choudesh: I'm not sure if I follow. The keysym remains the same, though the ASCII changes, i.e a to ^A wheras the the keysym is a A etc
[19:02] <robin_> y a t'il un français dans le lot
[19:02] <anirudh0> !fr| robin
[19:02] <Xcell> !fr |robin
[19:02] <robin_> ok
[19:02] <wwinter> Hey
[19:02] <anirudh0> robin_, merci
[19:02] <SaschaRed> I think a update just broke firefox
[19:03] <anirudh0> SaschaRed, please explain
[19:03] <SaschaRed> now when ever I open up firefox or try to enter anything into the url bar or seachbar I get this
[19:03] <eepberries> I can no longer chose to shutdown my computer or restart it while logged into an account. It only gives me the option to go into hibernation. The only way I can safely shutdown my computer is to logout and then press the power button. How can I fix this?
[19:03] <SaschaRed> and I am going to appoligize for this paste but I can't access pastebin
[19:03] <SaschaRed> ASSERT: *** Search: _installLocation: engine has no file!
[19:03] <SaschaRed> Stack Trace:
[19:03] <SaschaRed> 0:ENSURE_WARN(false,_installLocation: engine has no file!,2147500037)
[19:03] <SaschaRed> 1:()
[19:03] <SaschaRed> 2:()
[19:03] <SaschaRed> 3:()
[19:03] <SaschaRed> 4:epsGetAttr([object Object],hidden)
[19:03] <wwinter> Could anyone help me out? I'm interested in helping with Ubuntu development. I read that there's a mentor scheme?
[19:03] <SaschaRed> 5:()
[19:03] <anirudh0> eepberries, are you using gdm?
[19:03] <SaschaRed> 6:()
[19:03] <SaschaRed> 7:currentEngine()
[19:04] <neurobuntu> SaschaRed USE PASTE BIN
[19:04] <eepberries> anirudh0: I don't know what that is
[19:04] <anirudh0> SaschaRed, at first glance, it looks like missing files
[19:04] <ompaul> SaschaRed, you could use a different browser
[19:04] <unavailable> !flood | saschared
[19:04] <thrope> my computer turns itself on at 2am every night - it didn't used but started recently - are there any settings in ubuntu that could be causing this? (all wake stuff in the bios is turned off) - I couldn't find naything in power management
[19:04] <FuRom> Is there a way to make grep just list the files that have the matching text?
[19:04] <zooko> Hm, now I don't know how to figure out which Dapper package (if any) provides pycentral, since apt-file doesn't work on Dapper.
[19:04] <anirudh0> eepberries, did you install kdm, the thing that brings up the login window..does it look the same
[19:04] <zooko> How does one go about figuring out which package (if any) provides a certain file?
[19:04] <choudesh> chrols, hmm, what keys do you want to use with a modifier?
[19:05] <eepberries> anirudh0: Well I set the login window to plain with faces, if that's what you mean.
[19:05] <anirudh0> SaschaRed, purge and reinstall might fix it
[19:05] <Invade1> /msg ubottu etiquette
[19:05] <Tanwir> quit
[19:05] <cameo357> is there a newbie channel?
[19:06] <choudesh> chrols, as I am getting told - there are some keys that cannot be modified if you only have a software-based keyboard vs hardware-based
[19:06] <anirudh0> camason, this is supposed  to be it :)
[19:06] <rsk_> cameo357: there's a newbie part on the forum, dunno about irc thou
[19:06] <anirudh0> cameo357, , this is supposed  to be it :)
[19:06] <ASULutzy> cameo357: If you have questions feel free to ask them here, everyone starts somewhere. There is a beginner section on the forum
[19:06] <ompaul> cameo357, this is it, please ask your question, on one line, and see how it goes
[19:06] <chrols> choudesh: Well more or less every one
[19:07] <tmptmp> question: just installed hardy, connecting a usb hard drive to it - it automounts, but after some delay, and then it shows only top level dirs, and showing those dirs as empty. known problem? known fix? i know for a fact the drive is not empty.
[19:07] <Invade1> How do I make a desktop shortcut to quake3cpma?
[19:07] <cameo357> messed up a partition can't undo mistake
[19:07] <unclemike> how good is 8.04 runing.Sence the new release ?
[19:08] <chrols> choudesh: The effect I wish to achieve is to retain all shortcuts as they are under qwerty while using another keymap for typing
[19:08] <ASULutzy> cameo357: If you've already rewrote the partition table then any old data that was on there is effectively gone. If you just need to repartition a disk, then that's not that hard to do
[19:08] <tmptmp> Invade1: same way you make a desktop shortcut to anything else?
[19:09] <ompaul> cameo357, you are a little short on info. type lots on one line it is easier to follow than little things here and there
[19:09] <cameo357> how?
[19:09] <eepberries> anirudh0: Do you know if setting the login theme to plain with faces would cause me to not have the option to shutdown or restart my computer?
[19:09] <bakersfieldboy> quote HELP
[19:09] <chrols> choudesh: So what you are saying is that it can't be solved in software?
[19:09] <Invade1> tmptmp: I tried to make a link/launcher but it does not seem to work...
[19:09] <bakersfieldboy> SERVHELP
[19:09] <ASULutzy> cameo357: Yea, fully explain what happened and what you want to fix/do
[19:09] <bakersfieldboy> sry trying somthing
[19:10] <jkp> if i want to install on epackage from intrepid on my install what ius the best way of doing that?
[19:10] <Ande1> why does Eye of GNOME always display images zoomed at 99% by default?
[19:10] <cameo357> I have 27 gigabytes I can't access.
[19:10] <tmptmp> Invade1: you doubleclick, and nothing happens?
[19:10] <cameo357> should i give it a name, like /root
[19:10] <tripps> looked through /var/log/dist-upgrade and see where it removed apache2,etc. and seemed like it would be replaced but never did
[19:11] <ASULutzy> cameo357: I guess the first thing to do would be to check how your drives are actually partitioned. You can find this by doing sudo fdisk -l in a terminal
[19:11] <cameo357> ok
[19:11] <ASULutzy> cameo357: That's a lowercase L
[19:11] <choudesh> chrols, it can be solved in software - but in a different way - if there is a combo that doesn't have a modifier it look for a keypress and keyrelease
[19:11] <fbc> Hello all! Just one question. What language do I need to learn to make GTK2 apps for ubuntu?
[19:11] <tmptmp> Invade1: try making a shellscript that executes your command, and place it on the desktop. or do a plain symlink to it on the desktop.
[19:12] <choudesh> chrols, so you can have CTRL+PGUP, by looking if CTRL is down and has not been released then PGUP is press
[19:12] <Invade1> tmptmp: In my launcher, the command I have written is "/usr/local/games/quake3/ChallengeQuake3.i386".
[19:12] <unavailable> asulutzy  with fdisk is there a switch -i??
[19:13] <unavailable> asulutzy  or -I or -1?
[19:13] <ASULutzy> unavailable: I said sudo fdisk -l, as in lowercase L
[19:13] <choudesh> chrols, look @ System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts - this gives a software to do it. Since you don't have a hardware based keyboard where you can add self-defined modifiers you may be out of luck
[19:13] <choudesh> chrols, there are software solutions out there but not as low level as xev/xorg
[19:13] <unavailable> asulutzy yes and i am merely asking if there is an -i -I or -1
[19:13] <cameo357> asulu it didn't work
[19:13] <cameo357> command not found
[19:13] <chrols> choudesh: What sort of solutions?
[19:14] <ASULutzy> unavailable: I don't think there is, but case in point here, people type it wrong and then say command not found
[19:14] <fbc> What language do I need to learn to make GTK2 apps for ubuntu?
[19:14] <unavailable> lol
[19:14] <ASULutzy> cameo357: You typed it wrong. sudo fdisk -l
[19:14] <choudesh> chrols, not sure. I have a very expensive keyboard. ;-) let me google.
[19:14] <ASULutzy> cameo357: Again, that's a lowercase "L"
[19:14] <unavailable> as in lowercase L
[19:14] <unavailable> loL
[19:15] <zooko> Darn -- no python-central in dapper.
[19:15] <PeterP24> fbc> I guess C and after learning that you need to master the GTK + 2.0 tutorial which tells you how to build apps
[19:16]  * unavailable masters the tut
[19:16] <cameo357> okay saw the space got it up, doesn't make sense to me
[19:16] <erUSUL> fbc: primary C there are bindings for C++  python etc even java
[19:16] <Firefishe> poor AdamTech1...
[19:16] <Xcell> lol
[19:16] <Firefishe> oops
[19:16] <Firefishe> wrong chan, sorry
[19:16] <chrols> choudesh: So you're saying it would be possible with your keyboard? Which one would that be?
[19:16] <Xcell> what #?
[19:17] <choudesh> chrols, hmm - you can use gconf to make shortcut keys to launch applications
[19:17] <ompaul> Xcell, you are offtopic
[19:17] <Xcell> ok
[19:17] <Ward1983> did everyone install asterisk before? any good tutorials on that?
[19:18] <joshee> how could I copy the colors profile from one console to my other console in my other box?
[19:18] <unavailable> ward1983  nope
[19:18] <fbc> PeterP24, erUSUL , thanks
[19:18] <unavailable> ward1983  nope as in everyone did not
[19:18] <Ward1983> unavailable, how come / how do you know that?
[19:18] <xFlipx> is there a fix for randomly losing sound from .FLV video sites? (youtube) etc?
[19:19] <choudesh> chrols, Wireless Entertainment Desktop 8000
[19:19] <soundray> I need a hint please. I'm trying to log into a wireless network with WPA-Enterprise. The network-manager dialog is too long for my screen, so I can't click the Connect button. Is there any other way to okay the dialog, if you can't click?
[19:19] <unavailable> ward1983  well i didnt, so that means EVERYone didnt
[19:19] <ASULutzy> This may be a bit off topic, but there are always 1300+ people in this channel and yet after having hung out in here for about a week, there's no way that anywhere close to 1300 people regularly talk in here. What's up witht hat?
[19:19] <chrols> choudesh: OK. Well thanks anyway for the help
[19:19] <unavailable> asulutzy  go look at #dd-wrt
[19:19] <PeterP24> is there a program suitable for .ram files?
[19:19] <Ward1983> unavailable, lol just tell me what typo i made next time :p
[19:19] <unavailable> asulutzy  no one ever talks there
[19:19] <Starnestommy> ASULutzy: a lot of people keep their clients running while they're busy with other things
[19:19] <Ward1983> unavailable, i only now understand what you mean lol
[19:19] <unavailable> ward1983 everyone
[19:19] <choudesh> chrols, told you it was a bit expensive. ;-)
[19:20] <unavailable> lol
[19:20] <LogiTech> could anyone tell me how can i use pcmark05 :S on linux ubuntu ......??? wine dont install the program..
[19:20] <choudesh> chrols, if I find a solution - PM me your email
[19:20] <erUSUL> soundray: cycle with tab through widgets and press enter ... (you will have to guess) ??
[19:21] <linkmaster03> Youtube videos all of a sudden are turning grey in Firefox... can someoen help?
[19:21] <unavailable> linkmaster03 restart firefox
[19:21] <Xcell> linkmaster03--  reboot
[19:21] <linkmaster03> unavailable: I've done that about 17 times
[19:21] <Xcell> only answer
[19:21] <linkmaster03> Xcell: ill try lol
[19:21] <dury> hi there channel :)
[19:21] <unavailable> linkmaster03 ive had that prob too, with all flash...  havent gotten around to finding the prob yet
[19:21] <ASULutzy> LogiTech: Running a benchmarking suite inside of Wine seems like an odd thing to do anyway. Unfortunately I can't really offer you any help as I've never tried to install that particular application inside of Wine
[19:22] <askand> Is it only me that experience a lot of firefox crashes? :(
[19:22] <choudesh> LogiTech, look at the wine appdb - it will tell you what applications can run and at what level
[19:22] <Xcell> Im on 7.10.... it rox.. sry
[19:22] <Xcell> 8.04 is broke
[19:22] <ASULutzy> LogiTech: Yes, wine doesn't fully support every single application. There are probably similar benchmarking tools that you can find for linux machines
[19:22] <Xcell> for 30 days
[19:23] <zooko> Okay, folks, this channel is way too busy for me to keep up.  If you want a bit of help from me on using Ubuntu, or want to talk about Ubuntu hacking (right now I'm trying to backport a Python package to Dapper and also automate the process of building .deb's from Python packages), please find me in channel #tahoe.
[19:23] <unavailable> ok...  so i would like to re-iterate linkmaster2003 's problem because i experience it as well..  every so often my flash in firefox disappears, i have to restart firefox for it to work again..
[19:23] <soundray> erUSUL: thanks... I've found another way -- if you select Move from the window menu, you can push the dialog past the top of the screen (which you can't when you Alt-drag, strange...)
[19:23] <soundray> PeterP24: real media files?
[19:23] <LogiTech> so there isnt way to use 3dmark on linux ubuntu?
[19:23] <erUSUL> soundray: ok ;) also Alt + <underlined letter> activates the button on most dialogs
[19:23] <Xcell> unavailable--  its broke.. plain and simple
[19:24] <unavailable> xcell i would guess, any word on  a fix??
[19:24] <soundray> erUSUL: I tried that, but it didn't work -- I don't know why
[19:24] <dury> hey channel could you please help me in this http://paste.ubuntu.com/19687/
[19:24] <Xcell> unavailable--  submit synthesis through your hardware access in 3 parties
[19:24] <unavailable> huh?
[19:24] <sharperguy> anyone know a tutorial for converting a single partition linux install to a multipartition install with home/root? (dont mind reinstalling the OS again, just need to keep data)
[19:25] <oldenglish> is there any way to just have gnome-screensaver just show your background image and clear everything else off the screen?
[19:25] <unavailable> xcell say that in human speak??
[19:25] <choudesh> dury, please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources file
[19:25] <choudesh> dury, please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[19:25] <erUSUL> sharperguy: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[19:25] <PeterP24> soundray : they are some sort of video files, the my favorite video news over the internet are transmited in this format
[19:25] <unavailable> make up your mind choudesh
[19:25] <Xcell> add\remove\prefs.. allow hardware
[19:25] <sharperguy> erUSUL, cheers
[19:26] <unavailable> xcell still dont understand.. you want me to add/remove preferences then allow hardware?
[19:26] <choudesh> unavailable, well - I usually don't add file extension ... then I kinda figured he was new to ubuntu
[19:26] <Xcell> statistics*
[19:26] <dury> choudesh: hang on
[19:26] <rpimenta> hi everyone!
[19:26] <turbo_> hello
[19:26] <soundray> PeterP24: try to open them with totem, it will offer to download the required codecs for you. After that, you can use totem, mplayer or vlc
[19:26] <m_newton> besides the totem movie player, what other player can i use to play movies.iso??
[19:26] <rpimenta> anyone available to help me?
[19:26] <turbo_> iso?
[19:26] <Pici> m_newton: vlc
[19:26] <turbo_> m_newton: vlc is real good
[19:27] <gordonjcp> !ask | rpimenta
[19:27] <FloodBot2> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[19:27] <unavailable> add/remove preferences??
[19:27] <rpimenta> gordonjcp: i have a problem with my network card!
[19:27] <unavailable> xcell
[19:27] <Xcell> unavailable--  apps\sys tools\ubuntu device mngr
[19:27] <unavailable> k
[19:27] <turbo_> rpimenta: more specifically, what is the problem?
[19:27] <choudesh> heh FloodBot war is going to start. ;-)
[19:28] <enaner> you know how in mac you press a button and all the windows like go off to the sides ,... how can i do that on ubuntu .... im pretty sure i've seen someone do that
[19:28] <rpimenta> i access the internet but when i try to configure it by the option system, administration, Netowrk tools, Devices
[19:28] <unavailable> xcell not there
[19:28] <m_newton> turbo_, any other one, vlc cant play it
[19:28] <dury> choudesh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19689/
[19:28] <unavailable> xcell no device manager
[19:28] <rpimenta> the system tell me that the card doesn't exist.
[19:28] <turbo_> m_newton is it an ISO?
[19:28] <pen> anyone know how to make evdev hotplug?
[19:28] <PeterP24> soundray > i use totem > I can't open them; It didn't offered to download any codecs
[19:28] <rpimenta> do you know why?
[19:28] <m_newton> turbo_, ya
[19:28] <enaner> QUESTION: you know how in mac you press a button and all the windows like go off to the sides ,... how can i do that on ubuntu .... im pretty sure i've seen someone do that
[19:28] <pen> enaner, use compiz
[19:28] <Nix> Ola :D
[19:28] <PeterP24> I also have, vlc installed
[19:28] <Xcell> well.. look 4 it.. check ur sys\pref menu\.. also  look for it
[19:29] <pen> !patience | enaner
[19:29] <enaner> pen i have compiz ... but which function in compiz does that?
[19:29] <unavailable> xcell do you mean menu > system >  admin > hardware testing??
[19:29] <pen> enaner, scale
[19:29] <Xcell> no
[19:29] <Pici> Xcell: There is no hardware viewer in Hardy.
[19:29] <pen> enaner, or, show desktop
[19:29] <turbo_> m_newton: mount -o loop movie.iso /media/movie
[19:29] <Xcell> oph
[19:29] <Xcell> ic
[19:29] <pen> enaner, you have to install ccsm
[19:29] <unavailable> lol
[19:29] <choudesh> dury, ight - please post /etc/hosts
[19:29] <m_newton> turbo_, ???
[19:29] <Xcell> thats why i stuck with 7.10.. it rox
[19:30] <turbo_> m_newton: you have to mount the ISO, or burn it, it is a disk image
[19:30] <soundray> PeterP24: which ubuntu version do you have?
[19:30] <PeterP24> gutsy :D
[19:30] <turbo_> not a movie file
[19:30] <Xcell> actually.. 7.04 really rocked.. what happened?
[19:30] <m_newton> turbo_, how do i burn it
[19:30] <pen> anyone know how to make evdev hotplug?
[19:30] <Pici> Xcell: Please stay on topic
[19:30] <rpimenta> gordonjcp?
[19:30] <unavailable> ok pici how do i allow hardware statistics?
[19:30] <unavailable> 8.04  64bit
[19:30] <Pici> unavailable: What do you mean by hardware statistics?
[19:30] <turbo_> right click on the file and it should give you the option to write
[19:30] <rpimenta> gordonjcp: did i made my self clear?
[19:30] <unavailable> i dunno   xcell told me to
[19:31] <Xcell> unavailable--  in add\remove.. statistics
[19:31] <unavailable> add/remove has no "statistics"
[19:31] <Pici> Xcell: What is hardware statistics?
[19:31] <Xcell> man/
[19:31] <enaner> pen i think i have ccsm how do i check
[19:31] <unavailable> add/remove lets me only add/remove,  no prefs no settings
[19:31] <rpimenta> gordonjcp: do you copy me?
[19:31] <Pici> unavailable: What are you trying to do and why?
[19:32] <turbo_> anyone here remaster ubuntu? what are the specs for hardy splash image?
[19:32] <pen> enaner, do you know how to open ccsm?
[19:32] <pen> enaner, it's in the menu
[19:32] <joaopinto> trucMuche, try the ubuntu customization kit
[19:32] <gordonjcp> rpimenta: I can't help you
[19:32] <enaner> compiz config setting manager pen?
[19:32] <hoens> when installng the os, do i have to specify the boot loader to be installed in the appropriate partition?
[19:32] <DaFFes> hi guys i've just "installed" my wireless usb adaptor dwa-110 using xp driver with ndiswrapper, when i type ndiswrapper -l it shows (dr71wu : driver installed |  device (07D1:3C07) present) but it doesn't function, the light that shows it works is off, can anyone help me?
[19:32] <pen> enaner, yes
[19:32] <pen> anyone know how to make evdev hotplug?
[19:32] <enaner> pen ok i got it open now what do i do?
[19:32] <Pici> unavailable: Why do you want to enable "Hardware Statistics", whatever that is
[19:32] <gordonjcp> !ask | rpimenta
[19:33] <ksbalaji> Hi! I have 8 GB only in my file system partition. Out of this, usr folder takes up about 4 GB. Home also takes up a good slice. I am left with little space for more apps. Can I move usr and home folders to another partition in the same drive? If so, how? I use Hardy
[19:33] <pen> enaner, enable show desktop
[19:33] <Xcell> pici.. i was not advocating hardware statistics.. i was well... U know.
[19:33] <rpimenta> anyone available to help me with ubuntu 8.04 system>administration>networktools>devices?
[19:33] <Pici> Xcell: No, I don't know.
[19:33] <ompaul> Xcell, trolling?
[19:33] <eshat> Hi all ,... how can i make mutt use a remote smtp server when sending mails ?
[19:33] <Xcell> no ompaul
[19:34] <enaner> pen i dun c that option
[19:34] <Xcell> i am a helper
[19:34] <pen> enaner, look carefully
[19:34] <joaopinto> eshat, you could configure that at the system level, to make all your mails sent to a remote smtp relay
[19:34] <pen> enaner, show desktop
[19:34] <gordonjcp> rpimenta: how about you just describe the problem you're having?
[19:34] <eshat> joaopinto: but where ? i use postfix,...
[19:34] <Xcell> trying any way
[19:34] <enaner> pen i looked .. theres no option like that
[19:34] <chori> I've tried to get my ati card to work with two monitors with different resolutions for hours now, anyone that could help me?
[19:34] <rpimenta> gordonjcp: nothing untill now!
[19:35] <joaopinto> ksbalaji, you can, but you can also resize your root partition
[19:35] <pen> enaner, did you install ccsm?
[19:35] <gordonjcp> rpimenta: ok, so what are you asking about?
[19:35] <pen> enaner, are you using hardy?
[19:35] <joaopinto> eshat, sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[19:35] <enaner> pen i had it installed from be4
[19:35] <enaner> enaner yea 8.04
[19:35] <pen> enaner, actually compiz is preinstalled in hardy
[19:35] <pen> enaner, in ccsm
[19:35] <DaFFes> hi guys i've just "installed" my wireless usb adaptor dwa-110 using xp driver with ndiswrapper, when i type ndiswrapper -l it shows (dr71wu : driver installed |  device (07D1:3C07) present) but it doesn't function, the light that shows it works is off, can anyone help me?
[19:35] <enaner> pen yea
[19:35] <rpimenta> gordonjcp: my network card seems to work properly because i access the internet, but...
[19:36] <turbo_> ksbalaji you can just make a new partition and adjust the mount point to home...
[19:36] <stabbyjoe12> whats the latst version of itunes i can instll
[19:36] <pen> enaner, what do you see in ccsm?
[19:36] <enaner> well i got the profile thing
[19:36] <turbo_> stabbyjoe12: like 4
[19:36] <enaner> n different tabs pen
[19:36] <gordonjcp> rpimenta: ... ?
[19:36] <enaner> for animations effect desktop and so on
[19:36] <pen> enaner, n different?
[19:36] <rpimenta> gordonjcp: when i go to system>administration>networktools>devices and try to configure it with the configure buttom the system...
[19:36] <stabbyjoe12> o ok lol maybe not
[19:36] <enaner> and several tabs*
[19:37] <gordonjcp> rpimenta: what part of "on one line" is difficult for you?
[19:37] <rpimenta> gordonjcp: tells me that the card eth0 doesn't exists!
[19:37] <zewb> i heard a lot of people talking about FLAC
[19:37] <gordonjcp> rpimenta: maybe it's not called eth0?
[19:37] <pen> enaner, are you sure that's ccsm? I think you installed simple ccsm
[19:37] <zewb> and telling me how great it is
[19:37] <zewb> and now im comparing it
[19:37] <enaner> pen yes i have simple ccsm
[19:37] <soundray> !enter | zewb
[19:37] <rpimenta> gordonjcp: yes, it is.
[19:37] <enaner> how do i install ccsm then pen?
[19:37] <gordonjcp> rpimenta: weird
[19:37] <rpimenta> i read the file interfaces!
[19:38] <zewb> i am alternately playing a 44k 128kbps mp3 and a flac version of the same song and i honestly can't tell the difference
[19:38] <Estet1> I have an atheros wireless card, and restricted drivers manager says it is installed, but in admin-> networks no wireless device is listed. Anyone know what's wrong?
[19:38] <pen> enaner, go to synaptics, search for compiz
[19:38] <ASULutzy> zewb: Get better headphones/ears
[19:38] <pen> enaner, check for compizconfig-settings-manager
[19:38] <zewb> noise cancelling headphones
[19:38] <ASULutzy> zewb: FLAC is lossless. 128 kbps sounds like dog crap.
[19:38] <pen> anyone know how to make evdev hotplug?
[19:38] <zewb> they sound exactly the same to me
[19:38] <justme> ASULutzy, well only if the SOURCE material is good
[19:38] <chori> can anyone help me get my ati radeon card to work with two screens?
[19:39] <justme> if you got CRAP SOURCE mp3 is enought
[19:39] <justme> enough*
[19:39] <zewb> no noticeable difference in sound quality, they both sound perfect
[19:39] <ksbalaji> joaopinto, Hi again! I missed your info. on application>octet.stream problem yesterday. Anyway, How do I move my /usr and /home from filesystem to another partition pl? how do I change mountpoint safely?
[19:39] <soundray> !enter | zewb, please
[19:39] <Ktron> zewb, did you make the flac from the mp3, or the mp3 from the flac?
[19:39] <ASULutzy> zewb: Either you're deaf, or you decided to convert a 128 kbps mp3 into FLAC, which of course is pointless. You need a high quality source, then the difference is clear as day.
[19:39] <enaner> pen supposedly its already installed ... shud i reinstall?
[19:39] <Viden> I have a lot of errors when i boot my system .. what log file will those be located in ?
[19:39] <zewb> the flac came straight from CD
[19:39] <stabbyjoe12> how do i get 4 desktops?
[19:39] <zewb> Boards of Canada
[19:39] <ASULutzy> zewb: Well, that leaves the option of you being deaf I guess (:
[19:40] <zewb> the mp3 came from a torrent
[19:40] <joaopinto> ksbalaji, you need to use a live cd, create the partion, move or the data and set the new mount point on /etc/fstab
[19:40] <Ktron> zewb, CD is only 160 kbps? or 192 kbps?
[19:40] <justme> Ktron, CD is crap ^^
[19:40] <justme> that's enough said
[19:40] <justme> :D
[19:40] <enaner> stabbyjoe12:  go to the lorwer left hand of ur screen rich click and then prefereence then click 4 coliumns
[19:40] <justme> if you encode from a CD
[19:40] <justme> mp3 is best
[19:40] <justme> FLAC is nonsense for CD
[19:40] <zewb> its not just with this song
[19:40] <zewb> i find flac files all over
[19:40] <stabbyjoe12> enaner cheers me dears:)
[19:41] <ASULutzy> zewb: This is starting to sound like weak trolling.
[19:41] <zewb> and they never have any noticeable difference in sound quality
[19:41] <pen> enaner, go to menu system|preference|Advanced desktop effect setting
[19:41] <zewb> the only difference i noticed is that the flac takes up a lot more space
[19:41] <ksbalaji> joaopinto, I want to shift the folder. I do not want to resize the existing partition. I also have XP and once It gave trouble while resizing partition. I want XP untill WINE becomes robust.
[19:41] <justme> lol zewb
[19:41] <pen> enaner, look for show desktop icon
[19:41] <ASULutzy> zewb: So don't use FLAC. Problem solved
[19:41] <enaner> pen ok im there
[19:41] <UsuarioDoBrasil> How can you close tabs in Nautilus?
[19:41] <soundray> zewb: is there a support question somewhere in that?
[19:41] <pen> enaner, click the icon and set the binding
[19:41] <Viden> I have a lot of errors when i boot my system .. what log file will those be located in ?
[19:41] <justme> ASULutzy, well 320 kbit mp3 and FLAC does not make much difference - right ?
[19:41] <zewb> im just seeing if anyone else notices a difference in sound quality
[19:41] <pen> enaner, remember to enable the plugin
[19:41] <ompaul> !offtopic zewb
[19:41] <enaner> pen its already enabled
[19:41] <ompaul> !offtopic | zewb
[19:42] <enaner> pen but what shortcut do i use
[19:42] <pen> enaner, then you should go to set the key binding to your preference
[19:42] <justme> right ASULutzy ?
[19:42] <zewb> ompaul you're not even an op
[19:42] <zewb> sit your ass down
[19:42] <pen> enaner, you said that in mac you just press f11, then why don't you just set that too
[19:42] <pen> enaner, then it will shift all the window to the side just like mac
[19:42] <Xcell> slow down folks
[19:43] <pen> enaner, and the change applies instantly
[19:43] <pen> anyone know how to make evdev hotplug?
[19:43] <ASULutzy> lol@zewb haha
[19:43] <SAGA> hi room
[19:43] <justme> ASULutzy,
[19:43] <enaner> pen i got it its ctrl alt d
[19:43] <justme> ?
[19:43] <Viden>  /agreed
[19:43] <NewfieLinux> Ok guys.I have enjoyed my stay with ubuntu but I am going to switch back to windows xp for gaming purposes.How can I get rid of linux and install windows xp.Thankyou.
[19:43] <SAGA> i need help
[19:43] <rpimenta> gordonjcp: now did i made my self clear?
[19:43] <justme> lol NewfieLinux
[19:43] <Xcell> !help
[19:43] <justme> why do you wanna switch back
[19:44] <justme> what about dual boot?
[19:44] <SAGA> how can i convert odf (*.odt) files created by open office to pdf
[19:44] <justme> XP for Gaming, Ubuntu for working?
[19:44] <pen> enaner, I set it to ctrl+shift +d
[19:44] <Xcell> !dual boot
[19:44] <pen> enaner, it's easier that way
[19:44] <pen> anyone know how to make evdev hotplug?
[19:44] <NewfieLinux> Well because Its just pointless
[19:44] <ASULutzy> justme: It's a bit offtopic, but the fact of the matter is that FLAC is lossless, mp3 is lossy. At that high of a bitrate you might not be able to hear a noticeable difference, but for archiving purposes lossless >> lossy
[19:44] <SAGA> please tell me the packages that are needed
[19:44] <enaner> pen mines set with that by default
[19:44] <Viden> have you tried Crossover ... all my games play perfectly
[19:44] <enaner> thanx for ur help pen :)
[19:44] <pen> enaner, np
[19:44] <NewfieLinux> to dual boot for things that xp has.I like gaming but linux games work like a turd being used as a battery.
[19:44] <rpimenta> gordonjcp?
[19:44] <SAGA> how can i convert odf (*.odt) files created by open office to pdf
[19:44] <justme> lol ASULutzy even if it takes 5 times as much space?
[19:45] <justme> if you DONT hear a difference?
[19:45] <Viden> NewfieLinux:  try crossover before you give up
[19:45] <justme> strange
[19:45] <ksbalaji> turbo_, I already have a partition where I have many linux related matters. I now need to shift home and usr folders from file-system partition. I don't know how to adjust mount point to home/usr there after copying or moving. I feel copying and testing is better than moving. Pl suggest.
[19:45] <Grim76__> SAGA: You should be able to do that from openoffice.
[19:45] <SAGA> how can i convert odf (*.odt) files created by open office to pdf
[19:45] <soundray> SAGA: with OpenOffice
[19:45] <SAGA> ooo
[19:45] <NewfieLinux> No,I just want to switch
[19:45] <SAGA> let me check
[19:45] <NewfieLinux> What is crossover?
[19:45] <NetEcho> hi there, windows overwrote my grub install and when I went to boot the livecd to repair it, its flooding me with thousands of SquashFS errors
[19:45] <ASULutzy> justme: I have almost my entire library in .mp3, but if I were a serious audiophile I would use FLAC for everything, because it's lossless.
[19:45] <soundray> SAGA: File-Export as PDF
[19:45] <justme> ^^
[19:46] <Carpe|Diem> does anyone know if it is possible to change the context menu when I rightclick a file with no filetype?
[19:46] <SAGA> yaaa
[19:46] <SAGA> i can
[19:46] <SAGA> thanks a lot
[19:46] <justme> lol?
[19:46] <SAGA> i just missed
[19:46] <justme> analsex ?
[19:46] <Viden> NewfieLinux: www.codeweavers.com
[19:46] <Xcell> ?
[19:46] <turbo_> NewfieLinux: try wine-doors, World of Warcraft works better on Linux than on windows
[19:46] <NetEcho> anyone know why the livecd would cause that?
[19:46] <Xcell> bad news
[19:46] <enaner> whats the best p2p to download movies ?
[19:46] <turbo_> wine-doors is free, automatically resolves dependencies though.
[19:46] <justme> what did Xcell do ?
[19:46] <enaner> QUESTION: whats the best p2p to download movies and music? whats your favorite one? :)
[19:46] <unavailable> newfielinux,  you could try www.virtualbox.org
[19:46] <soundray> ompaul: kick justme while you're at it ;)
[19:47] <justme> why?
[19:47] <mhoney> Frostwire
[19:47] <justme> oO
[19:47] <HardDisk> !warez | enaner
[19:47] <ompaul> justme, one comment - shhhh
[19:47] <justme> ok.
[19:47] <NewfieLinux> Nah,please just tell me how to wipe and install windows.Plus my parents dont like me having linux
[19:47] <gordonjcp> HardDisk: uhm
[19:47] <HardDisk> evening people.
[19:47] <enaner> HardDisk:  ok in that case whats your favorite p2p software? :)
[19:47] <turbo_> ubiquity
[19:47] <oldenglish> lol @ parents not liking you having linux
[19:47] <Primus> hello. I just did a install of ubuntu server, everything default, minimal installe except for ssh. then did apt-get update/upgrade. when I try to ssh in, I can only do it for few mins after a reboot, after a few mins ssh picks up, but wont accept my pass, before a few mins it accepts my pass just fine, any ideas?
[19:47] <turbo_> in terminal.
[19:47] <gordonjcp> HardDisk: have you got anything to suggest that enaner was advocating piracy?
[19:47] <NetEcho> the only help I've found online is saying I didn't use a Md5sum to check the iso but this is an official Ubuntu disk
[19:47] <HardDisk> enaner, Deluge :)
[19:47] <Viden> I have a lot of errors when i boot my system .. what log file will those be located in ?
[19:47] <simNIX> enaner: not p2p2 but most recent things and more can be found on Usenet
[19:48] <biff_tannen> im trying to force mount an ntfs drive that has had an unclean dismount and get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/19695/ any ideas???
[19:48] <mhoney> viden: Messages
[19:48] <soundray> Viden: /var/log/syslog
[19:48] <Viden> viff_tannen:  do you have a windows machine you can plug it back into ?
[19:48] <oldenglish> NewfieLinux: Insert Windows CD into drive, reboot computer, tell it to completely reformat your drive...done.
[19:48] <mhoney> biff_tannen use -o force parameter
[19:48] <turbo_> NewfieLinux : just put the damn Microshit CD in your drive.....and go from there.
[19:48] <gordonjcp> NewfieLinux: your parents don't like you having Linux?  Why?
[19:48] <turbo_> Nobody here wants to help you reinstall windows
[19:48] <ompaul> !language | turbo_
[19:49] <biff_tannen> mhoney: have done
[19:49] <Pici> NewfieLinux: If you need help installing windows, the folks in ##windows would be more than happy to help you out :)
[19:49] <gordonjcp> ompaul: quite! let's not have the W-word in here
[19:49] <enaner> HardDisk:  wats the cmd to download dluge
[19:49] <HardDisk> enaner, www.deluge-torrent.org
[19:49] <biff_tannen> mhoney: used "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/Time drive -o force"
[19:49] <NewfieLinux> Thank you all but turbofucker
[19:50] <oldenglish> lol @ NewfieLinux
[19:50] <mhoney> biff: yah that should work.
[19:50] <NickGarvey> !language newfielinux
[19:50] <gordonjcp> enaner: Ubuntu has a torrent client already, but it's a bit rubbish
[19:50] <turbo_> NewfieLinux: looks like someone should have used the LiveCD a bit longer, huh?
[19:50] <biff_tannen> mhoney: look at the pastebin
[19:50] <biff_tannen> :/
[19:50] <NetEcho> looks like bancity today lol
[19:50] <LogiTech> could anyone tell me which notebook is best for gaming... acer,hp,dell
[19:50] <gordonjcp> enaner: you can install deluge from synaptic, or with "sudo apt-get install deluge"
[19:50] <turbo_> gordonjcp: transmission isn't bad.
[19:50] <mhoney> biff: your mount location has a space in it.  did you take that into account?
[19:50] <gordonjcp> turbo_: typ
[19:50] <gordonjcp> turbo_: yup
[19:50] <thehurley> hello
[19:50] <Sonicadvance> What parent wouldn't want to let their child have linux?
[19:50] <oldenglish> LogiTech probably alienware...I use an Asus myself.
[19:50] <unavailable> whats up with all the boots
[19:51] <biff_tannen> mhoney: no :) 2 secs
[19:51] <Pici> !offtopic
[19:51] <turbo_> gordonjcp: isn't it there by default?
[19:51] <gordonjcp> LogiTech: notebooks tend to be a bit rubbish for gaming, because they're more about saving power and weight
[19:51] <gordonjcp> turbo_: quite possibly
[19:51] <Sonicadvance> Less you get an XPS from Dell
[19:51] <soundray> Sonicadvance: probably parents whose children have a track record of ruining their parents' computers.
[19:51] <ksbalaji> joaopinto, how to set a new mount point on /etc/fstab? can I copy the folder and use the same name i.e.: /usr and /home pl?
[19:51] <NetEcho> Sonicadvance the ones that are afraid their kid will get too smart and end up limiting their parents use of computers severely? lol
[19:51] <biff_tannen> mhoney: no it doesn't?
[19:51] <NetEcho> Sonicadvance although the XPS laptop is a gaming laptop the thing gets horribly hot if you game on iot
[19:51] <NetEcho> -o
[19:51] <turbo_> F*** Dell, they need to keep the alienware line the same as it is
[19:51] <NetEcho> bad for the hardware
[19:52] <Sonicadvance> ah, I live in a family where each person has their own PC :P
[19:52] <enaner> gordonjcp:  thnx ... do u also prefer deluge?
[19:52] <biff_tannen> mhoney: where?
[19:52] <mhoney> biff: is the mount location Time drive or just Time?
[19:52] <soundray> turbo_: please behave professionally in this channel
[19:52] <gordonjcp> enaner: I prefer deluge, but don't take my word for it
[19:52] <NetEcho> Sonicadvance I mean they'll go and edit the parents control over their own systems
[19:52] <puff> Anybody familiar with apt-pinning a kernel?
[19:52] <biff_tannen> mhoney: time
[19:52] <NetEcho> much like I did when I was younger lol
[19:52] <gordonjcp> enaner: the good thing is you *can* try all these different things, and pick one you like
[19:52] <LogiTech> gordonjcp but newer notebooks like XPS M1530 and acer 5920 are for gaming...they can even run crysis on medium quality..
[19:53] <biff_tannen> mhoney: fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/Time: No such file or directory
[19:53] <mhoney> biff: try this "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /mnt -o force"
[19:53] <thehurley> right now i'm running kernel 2.6.24-16, update manager is offering to install 2.6.24-18, if I do install 2.6.24-18, if I do install, will there be an option to boot 2.6.24-16 and 2.6.24-18 from the grub boot loader, or will I just get 2.6.24-18?
[19:53] <NetEcho> LogiTech I have an XPS and at the heat that is caused by those suckers when gaming I don't use it for gaming
[19:53] <NetEcho> it will burn the hardware out in no-time
[19:53] <gordonjcp> Sonicadvance: I'd assume a parent that didn't want their child to end up with a well-paid job in computing wouldn't want them to use Linux
[19:53] <turbo_> biff_tannen: mkdir /media/Time
[19:53] <enaner> gordonjcp:  lets test this out ... ne movie recommendations?
[19:53] <puff> thehurley: I would be careful about updating just yet, there have been some problems with post-16 kernels.
[19:53] <turbo_> enaner: you seen Iron Man?
[19:54] <enaner> turbo_:  yea
[19:54] <NetEcho> <3 Windows, it just loves to break Ubuntu :@
[19:54] <Pici> enaner, turbo_: Try #ubuntu-offtopic please
[19:54] <justme> gordonjcp, maybe some parents dont want it because they can't control their child than
[19:54] <Pici> !offtopic
[19:54] <enaner> pici: ok sorry ... but is there any other better softwares that are simliar to limewire?
[19:54] <turbo_> Pici, it's software related
[19:54] <NetEcho> After someone installed windows on a separate partition now I can't repair grub or even re-install ubuntu for some reason
[19:54] <NetEcho> any ideas?
[19:54] <Pici> turbo_: Its not Ubuntu related
[19:54] <Pici> !p2p | enaner
[19:54] <justme> because there are not 10000 tools  to control the behaviour of kids on an ubuntu pc - but now back to topic
[19:54] <justme> ;)
[19:54] <ASULutzy> thehurley: You should be able to boot into both without any issue
[19:54] <thehurley> NetEcho sound like you need to reinstall grub
[19:55] <HardDisk> sorry was on the phone.
[19:55] <NetEcho> thehurley as I just said I can't
[19:55] <Jack_Sparrow> NetEcho HAve you tried the basics using the grub tutorial
[19:55] <tobi1222> Hey there.. I have a pcsx2 realted question, can anybody help me? ive been searching for hours
[19:55] <NetEcho> Ubuntu livecd won't properly boot anymore
[19:55] <Viden> Neither one of those logs contained the text i see when my machine boots ... any other ideas ?
[19:55] <HardDisk> enaner, frostwire
[19:55] <biff_tannen> mhoney: i have mounted that ty ;) now I juts need to mount an usb drive that won't mount it is fat32 and no light comes on when plugged into usb port any ideas?
[19:55] <Primus> hello. I just did a install of ubuntu server, everything default, minimal installe except for ssh. then did apt-get update/upgrade. when I try to ssh in, I can only do it for few mins after a reboot, after a few mins ssh picks up, but wont accept my pass, before a few mins it accepts my pass just fine, any ideas?
[19:55] <gordonjcp> enaner: Big Buck Bunny
[19:55] <enaner> HardDisk:  u recommend it?
[19:55] <Ktron> cd /media; mkdir girl; mount . . .
[19:55] <NetEcho> trying to boot livecd mode it gives me about 2 million squashfs errors and trying to re-install ubuntu just locks up now
[19:55] <gordonjcp> justme: it's called "parental responsibility" - you pay attention to what your child is doing
[19:55] <HardDisk> enaner, frostwire is the same as limewire without all the junk
[19:55] <soundray> NetEcho: clear sign of a bad burn
[19:56] <enaner> HardDisk:  sounds perfect
[19:56] <justme> gordonjcp, right
[19:56] <puff> thehurley: However, to answer your question, yes, you should get the option to boot earlier kernels.  You should be able to boot any kernel that lives in /boot.  The grub menu will usually only list the most recent two or three, if you edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add a line: howmany=all, this will ensure that it lits all of the kernels in the grub menu.
[19:56] <NetEcho> soundray I didn't burn this its an official disk
[19:56] <soundray> NetEcho: unless your CD-ROM drive is failing
[19:56] <mhoney> biff:  Are you using the usb port on the front or back of the computer.  For some reason I have seen front usb ports that don't provide the right power.
[19:56] <gordonjcp> justme: rather than just plonking them down in front of a computer and hoping some piece of software will stop them seeing naughty words
[19:56] <Ktron> gordonjcp, justme , #ubunto-offtopic
[19:56] <biff_tannen> mhoney: both
[19:56] <tobi1222> So, my graphics card doesnt support pixel shader 2.0 and i want to run pcsx2 and i use the ZeroGS KOSMOS OpenGL  0.96.7 plugin which i apparently cant use.. Anybody help
[19:56] <Jack_Sparrow> NetEcho At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[19:56] <HardDisk> enaner, but if you want a torrent client go with Deluge, I helped with some of the translation on that project, really good client like utorrent
[19:56] <soundray> NetEcho: try the CD integrity check from the boot menu
[19:56] <justme> however gordonjcp, not my problem. now let's stay ontopic
[19:56] <justme> ;)
[19:56] <gordonjcp> tobi1222: sounds like you need a different card
[19:56] <Jack_Sparrow> NetEcho Is this a dell or hp by chance
[19:56] <gordonjcp> justme: indeed
[19:56] <tobi1222> Me?
[19:57] <justme> dont want a kick/ban
[19:57] <justme> ;)
[19:57] <HardDisk> oh hey Jack_Sparrow sup man :)
[19:57] <NetEcho> Jack_Sparrow good guess
[19:57] <thehurley> puff ty
[19:57] <puff> thehurley: I would check and make sure you're not going to run into problems with a post-16 kernel.  On my thinkpad, it made wireless disappear.
[19:57] <pen> anyone know how to make evdev hotplug?
[19:57] <NetEcho> I take it dells have issues with this?
[19:57] <tobi1222> Well, its a intel (965)x3100
[19:57] <bkarns> I just installed 8.04 and during boot my comp froze at uniform cd-rom driver.....can anybody help
[19:57] <thehurley> puff ok, i'll hold off
[19:57] <mhoney> biff: do a "sudo fdisk -l" without the drive plugged in and note the devices.  Then do it again after pluggin in the usb drive and see if a new device shows up
[19:57] <red22> what is a good pdf reader that allows adding/editing bookmarks pls?
[19:57] <huevolin1990> hi, my problem is I installed Wine and installed PlayOn for Wine and then i uninstalled the packages of wine. When I saw the acces of wine and PlayOn were still in the aplications menu i deleted them and now i'm having problems in the computer! PLEASE someone who knows about this
[19:57] <Kaldor> I really need help with my panels.
[19:57] <unavailable> biff thats a lowercase L
[19:58] <Jack_Sparrow> NetEcho make an iso of the cd you have.. and reburn the iso back to a cd at the slowest possible speed.. It sounds crazy..  but you will need a bit of faith.. that is if the first suggestion I gave didnt work
[19:58] <HardDisk> red22, adobe's it's in the repo's
[19:58] <Kaldor> can someone help me reset the panels to the default settings?
[19:58] <NickGarvey> hey I had the USB problem too
[19:58] <bkarns> I just installed 8.04 and during boot my comp froze at uniform cd-rom driver.....can anybody help
[19:58] <NickGarvey> I reloaded my kernel (reboot), and it seemed to fix it
[19:58] <tobi1222> Huevolin1990: hey there, i have had the same problem.. Search the ubuntuforums, there are loads of answers to that one
[19:58] <NetEcho> Jack_Sparrow under F6 I have file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper only-ubiquity initrd=/casper/initrd.gz quiet splash --|
[19:58] <olskolirc> Can anyone tell me how I can get my sound card to play more than one source at a time on Gutsy?  It used too until I reinstalled.
[19:58] <huevolin1990> on ubuntu.com?
[19:58] <biff_tannen> mhoney: only shows 2 drives non of which are the flash drive (2 drive are internal + external HDD)
[19:58] <NetEcho> Jack_Sparrow this cd worked on the dell before someone decided to install windows
[19:59] <soundray> HardDisk: are you sure? AFAIK it's only in medibuntu
[19:59] <pen> anyone know how to make evdev hotplug?
[19:59] <Kaldor> icons are screwed up, so I made a new panel and removed the old one, Now, the running programs like pidgin won't show on the top bar
[19:59] <NickGarvey> biff_tannen: have you rebooted your computer?
[19:59] <tobi1222> huevolin: no on www.ubuntuforums.org
[19:59] <unavailable> netecho darn windows
[19:59] <Kaldor> I really need help with fixing this
[19:59] <puff> soundray: So, I have reinstalled and in synaptic, I tried "Lock Package" on package linux-image-2.6.24-16.30.  However, the package description says "You likely do not want to install this package directly.  Instead, install the linux-generic meta-package etc etc".  SHould I lock linux-generic instead?
[19:59] <HardDisk> soundray, what is?
[19:59] <Jack_Sparrow> NetEcho  I have file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper only-ubiquity initrd=/casper/initrd.gz noapic acpi=off  --|
[19:59] <NetEcho> unavailable agreed
[19:59] <biff_tannen> NickGarvey: yes
[19:59] <mhoney> biff: can you hear or feel the drive spin up when plugged in?
[19:59] <bkarns> I just installed 8.04 and during boot my comp froze at uniform cd-rom driver.....can anybody help
[19:59] <NickGarvey> biff_tannen: I had that problem and a reboot fixed it, although it ruined my uptime :)
[19:59] <tobi1222> Huevolin: are you new to ubuntu?
[19:59] <huevolin1990> thanks a lot:)
[19:59] <huevolin1990> yes
[19:59] <soundray> HardDisk: acroread
[19:59] <biff_tannen> mhoney: its a flash drive ;)
[19:59] <Dagor> hola
[19:59] <HardDisk> soundray, oh the adobe reader..it's in the ubuntu-restricted-extras I forgot whether it's in medibuntu only or not.
[19:59] <huevolin1990> hola Dagor
[19:59] <biff_tannen> mhoney: if it span up i'd freak out
[19:59] <mhoney> biff:  OHHHHH.... hmmm
[19:59] <tobi1222> huevolin: Great, well.. the ubuntu forums is always a help, search there first of all
[19:59] <NetEcho> Jack_Sparrow noapic  or noacpi?
[19:59] <soundray> puff: yes
[19:59] <tobi1222> Hola Dagor, que tal?
[20:00] <NickGarvey> biff_tannen: hm, I had the same problem though, I would see it in dmesg, it just wouldn't even touch it as a storage device
[20:00] <thehurley> what are the consequences of un-installing "ubuntu-desktop"?  When I attempt to remove "gimp", aptitude tells me it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop also.
[20:00] <ksbalaji> How to set a new mount point on /etc/fstab for system folders in another partition? can I copy a folder from filesystem partition and use the same name? i.e.: /usr and /home pl?
[20:00] <olskolirc> acroread won't work for me anymore.  It says its obsolute and made me upgrade to Adobe reader enu.
[20:00] <NickGarvey> biff_tannen: like it wouldn't even call it /dev/sdb
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow> NetEcho if and when you get a fd0 error wait, you will get it again, and eventually it should finish booting
[20:00] <biff_tannen> NickGarvey: any ideas?
[20:00] <mhoney> biff:  Sorry, I'm not sure on that problem ;(
[20:00] <pen> anyone know how to make evdev hotplug?
[20:00] <biff_tannen> mhoney: np ty anywyas
[20:00] <huevolin1990> ok thanks tobi1222, if i don't find a solution i'll tell u
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow> noapic acpi=off
[20:00] <huevolin1990> :)
[20:00] <NickGarvey> biff_tannen: yeah see I just ran an update, rebooted my computer and it worked
[20:00] <NickGarvey> biff_tannen: not sure if the update helped
[20:00]  * N3bunel saluta
[20:00] <olskolirc> Can anyone tell me how I can get my sound card to play more than one source at a time on Gutsy?  It used too until I reinstalled.
[20:00] <NetEcho> Jack_Sparrow ok wasn't sure if apic was a typo
[20:00] <HardDisk> olskolirc, just a change of names and versions.
[20:00] <tobi1222> Anybody knows of a plugin that doesnt go with opengl and maybe use software sprites for csx2?
[20:00] <red22> HardDisk: i thought there'd be some smaller footprint cool oss solution for pdf reading and bookmarking.. the adobe reader at least can create bookmarks?
[20:01] <Jack_Sparrow> NetEcho understood
[20:01] <tobi1222> pcsx2*
[20:01] <biff_tannen> NickGarvey: this has had several reboots
[20:01] <soundray> thehurley: it's just a metapackage. It won't have any consequences, until you try a release upgrade. Then you should install the package and its dependencies again.
[20:01] <olskolirc> ok HardDisk
[20:01] <NetEcho> so far so good
[20:01] <unavailable> kaldor right click add to panel  notification area
[20:01] <biff_tannen> NickGarvey: it finds the ntfs drive ok
[20:01] <tobi1222> huevolin1990: just email me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:01] <HardDisk> red22, I believe so. let me check now
[20:01] <pen> anyone know how to make evdev hotplug?
[20:01] <soundray> thehurley: metapackage = package that consists of dependencies, without any data of its own
[20:01] <Rhys`> Ooo, this isn't good. Just hit a keyboard shortcut by accident and everything changed to inverted colours. Any ideas how to turn this off? :P
[20:01] <NetEcho> Jack_Sparrow any idea what causes squashfs errors?
[20:02] <biff_tannen> NetEcho: spaushfs errors? in what sense? I just had those and overcome them!
[20:02] <thehurley> soundray ok, good to know
[20:02] <Jack_Sparrow> NetEcho I can only guess that the advanced programmable interrupt copntroller is causing issues
[20:02] <NetEcho> ah
[20:02] <thehurley> soundray but, whats the point of a package that doesn't contain any data?
[20:02] <icltlfatppl> Anyone know why libnspr4 has changed its name in Hardy?
[20:02] <HardDisk> red22, hmm I don't see that option
[20:02] <NetEcho> seems to have gotten past squashfs loading this time
[20:03] <NetEcho> crap
[20:03] <NetEcho> there they are again
[20:03] <soundray> thehurley: its value is in the dependencies that it installs.
[20:03] <strtok> anyone know what happened to edgy's repos? i'm getting tons of 404s now on the security repo
[20:03] <biff_tannen> NetEcho: in what sense
[20:03] <NetEcho> unable to read page, block *, size 9e9*
[20:03] <Jack_Sparrow> NetEcho Just a guess.. the two things I am having you add are the two most common changes I make to get a system to boot
[20:03] <ASULutzy> strtok: Edgy is no longer supported. You need to upgrade distros
[20:03] <NetEcho> biff_tannen trying to re-install grub or re-install ubuntu completely
[20:03] <strtok> ahhhh
[20:03] <nickrud> !eol | strtok (this is edgy)
[20:03] <biff_tannen> NetEcho: are you trying to boot or install?
[20:03] <strtok> ASULutzy: okay, no problem
[20:03] <icltlfatppl> It is now libnspr4-0d, and I can't get ldconfig to recognize it as libnspr4, even if I copy the 0d version to libnspr4.
[20:03] <strtok> thanks
[20:03] <biff_tannen> NetEcho: right. my advice
[20:03] <soundray> thehurley: think of it as a bundle that makes it possible to install a bunch of related packages in one go. Other examples are build-essential and xubuntu-desktop
[20:03] <HardDisk> !upgrade | strtok
[20:04] <strtok> HardDisk: thanks, that's useful
[20:04] <NetEcho> biff_tannen sorry didn't catch it
[20:04] <biff_tannen> NetEcho: have you got an xp disc
[20:04] <HardDisk> :)
[20:04] <Jack_Sparrow> NetEcho is this a laptop or desktop
[20:04] <NetEcho> biff_tannen sure dop
[20:04] <NetEcho> -p
[20:04] <NetEcho> laptop
[20:04] <biff_tannen> NetEcho: do you ahve an UBCD?
[20:04] <justme> theoretically it is possible to patch 4.10 up to 8.04 ?
[20:04] <justme> right oO ?
[20:04] <red22> HardDisk: ok thanks for checking... a yr ago i tried it and the free version didn't allow bookmark editing.  it really boggles me that some open format with a great oss reader with full editing has never taken off.
[20:04] <justme> (4.10 -> 5.04 ans so on)
[20:04] <HardDisk> 4.10 O.o
[20:04] <justme> and*
[20:04] <NetEcho> Ubuntu 7.10 and 8.04 both 32-bit and 64-bit
[20:04] <justme> HardDisk, just THEORETICALLY
[20:04] <biff_tannen> NetEcho: ok.. format the drive then reinstall ubuntu evertyhing should work
[20:04] <ompaul> justme, it will break
[20:04] <choudesh> justme, would be faster just to reinstall.
[20:04] <NetEcho> biff_tannen trying to
[20:05] <HardDisk> justme, no it will break :)
[20:05] <justme> I dont have this case right now
[20:05] <justme> was just an idea ^^
[20:05] <NetEcho> I clicked install ubuntu and now its flooding me with squashfs errors
[20:05] <biff_tannen> NetEcho: format using dos or recovery format c:
[20:05] <Viden> All ... I am seeing a lot of errors when i boot my linux box, but i cant seem to find the log file that contains them .. i thought it would be messages or syslog, but no signs of what i see at bootup in those logs
[20:05] <NetEcho> ah
[20:05] <Jack_Sparrow> biff_tannen you might want to read back before jumping in with advice
[20:05] <soundray> NetEcho: did you check the CD integrity?
[20:05] <NetEcho> independant format
[20:05] <Richrd> Hello
[20:05] <hoens> if i don't have anything specifically mounted to /home, but i have a new hd and want that to be /home, how can i do that?
[20:05] <NetEcho> soundray yes
[20:05] <strtok> HardDisk: haha, it won't let me install update-manager-core - i get the same 404s
[20:05] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow: yeah but i think that will help
[20:05] <hoens> can i just change fstab and it will move all of /home there? or should i remove everything in original /home?
[20:05] <Richrd> Can I ask for some assistance here?
[20:05] <unavailable> netecho does the disk have scratches or hair??
[20:05] <HardDisk> strtok, check your connection..?
[20:05] <huevolin1990> please i need help from someone to delete files in the trashcan
[20:06] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow: if it doesnt spank me
[20:06] <NetEcho> unavailable checking that now just to be sure
[20:06] <icltlfatppl> Is there a channel for developers?  I think my question scrolled off screen in under 60 seconds.
[20:06] <soundray> Richrd: if it's ubuntu-related, then yes
[20:06] <strtok> HardDisk: it's getting a 404
[20:06] <Jack_Sparrow> biff_tannen the format on the hd has nothing to do with why he cant boot the cd that worked beofre
[20:06] <strtok> so my connection is fine - because it got a 404
[20:06] <strtok> :P
[20:06] <huevolin1990> i don't know why i can't delete them
[20:06] <HardDisk> lol
[20:06] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow: yeah YOUD THINK
[20:06] <Rhys`> Accidentally switched into some sort of accessibility mode for visually impaired users with a keyboard shortcut (inverted colours), any ideas how to turn it off?
[20:06] <HardDisk> strtok, different mirror maybe?
[20:06] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow:  I JUST HAD THE SAME ISSUE
[20:06] <thehurley> right, i get you
[20:06] <NetEcho> I'll try cleaning the disk
[20:06] <Jack_Sparrow> biff_tannen stop yelling
[20:06] <ompaul> strtok, yeap, download a new CD burn it and work from there having backed up your data
[20:06] <strtok> HardDisk: i'm using us.archive.ubuntu.com
[20:06] <strtok> ompaul: hrm, thanks
[20:07] <strtok> that's kind of silly to just remove the archive
[20:07] <strtok> even though it's not supported
[20:07] <NetEcho> hrm there is a few small bits of dirt and possibly oil
[20:07] <NetEcho> that could do it
[20:07] <HardDisk> strtok, as ompaul said.
[20:07] <unavailable> netecho yep
[20:07] <Jack_Sparrow> NetEcho it doesnt take much..
[20:07] <Richrd> yes, I think its related :). I need to get two mice working so that one is inverted and the other is normal. I tried to modifie xorg.conf to do this but I didnt get it to work, either only one worked or none. Can somebody help me?
[20:07] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow: it was weird but it helped.  it wouldn't load the live cd it asked for password formatted and all was ok
[20:07] <olskolirc> Can anyone tell me how I can get my sound card to play more than one source at a time on Gutsy?  It used too until I reinstalled.
[20:07] <soundray> Richrd: inverted?
[20:07] <pen> anyone know how to make evdev hotplug?
[20:08] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow: always expect the unexpected
[20:08] <HardDisk> olskolirc, were you usin Jack?
[20:08] <HardDisk> olskolirc, you can do that anyway by running two players
[20:08] <turbo_> olskolirc: alsa?
[20:08] <Jack_Sparrow> biff_tannen I have been doing this for awhile, I know quite a few tricks
[20:08] <olskolirc> no HardDisk I don't know what that is.  I use alsa
[20:08] <olskolirc> yes turbo_
[20:08] <HardDisk> olskolirc, pulseaudio may be broken change your settings to alsa
[20:08] <turbo_> Alsa should anythong through your speakers
[20:08] <Richrd> well, I want the other mouse to have the "InvX" option set to "on" so that when I move it left the pointer moves right and vice-versa
[20:08] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow: i know you've helped me many times under a different guise
[20:08] <turbo_> multiple outputs...
[20:08] <olskolirc> oh I done use pulseaudio
[20:08] <Jack_Sparrow> biff_tannen ban evading.. good to know
[20:09] <olskolirc> oh HardDisk my settings are on alsa
[20:09] <ksbalaji> How to set a new mount point on /etc/fstab for system folders in another partition? can I copy a folder from filesystem partition and use the same name? i.e.: /usr and /home pl?
[20:09] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow: just letting you know that that is the 1st time I ever had that issue and it helped
[20:09] <turbo_> it can make things sound real messy....but mpltiple sources output sound
[20:09] <olskolirc> I can't even hear web pages when im listening to music
[20:09] <huevolin1990> please i need help to delete files from the trashcan. The computer says they have been deleted but they continue there
[20:09] <justme> just to know, is anybody in this channel working in a company that uses Ubuntu or in general Linux on the Clients?
[20:09] <HardDisk> Dear olskolirc, check your sound settings via the player you're using then, between alsa and oss
[20:09] <Jack_Sparrow> biff_tannen I have actually seen that happen before, but prefer to check the basics
[20:09] <NetEcho> Jack_Sparrow I know dirt can be a pain
[20:09] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow: squshfs error during install = reformat
[20:09] <olskolirc> ok
[20:09] <stabbyjoe12> wo to you force qui an application
[20:09] <turbo_> justme: i do
[20:09] <HardDisk> justme, yes sir.
[20:09] <stabbyjoe12> quit*
[20:10] <justme> are they happy with it ?
[20:10] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow: k ;) I won't conest
[20:10] <HardDisk> justme, my last job all workstations were running SLED
[20:10] <turbo_> justme: i create specialized linux systems for work environments
[20:10] <biff_tannen> contest
[20:10] <NetEcho> Jack_Sparrow hopefully that was the cause
[20:10] <HardDisk> justme, and one company recently are running ubuntu completely.
[20:10] <NetEcho> I'd hate to have to re-do my install
[20:10] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow:  I already know you know WAY more than me ;)
[20:10] <pub> how would i go about finding a dir? i am tring find  <dir> but its showing up no dir exists or it is invalid etc... but i just installed it via sudo apt-get intsall <dir>
[20:10] <Jack_Sparrow> NetEcho I often clean the lens with 30% alcohol solution
[20:10] <turbo_> justme: why do you asj?
[20:10] <justme> HardDisk and turbo_ good to hear there are some companies that are not insane running windows ^^
[20:10] <hoens> if i want to add a new partition as my /home partition, is there anything specific i need to do to migrate all of my users?
[20:11] <soundray> Richrd: you'd need a multipointer X server. Integrating this in Ubuntu is under discussion, but not done yet.
[20:11] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow: so how do i get my usb working lol
[20:11] <justme> turbo_, just interested - my school runs Windows XP and on some PCs Vista
[20:11] <Jack_Sparrow> biff_tannen I appreciate your enthusiasm in trying to help out..
[20:11] <justme> and I hate those OS >.>
[20:11] <Odd-rationale> pub: try "locate <dir>"
[20:11] <Jack_Sparrow> biff_tannen what kind of device
[20:11] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow: i know bro - much love
[20:11] <HardDisk> justme, I also live in Egypt, one of the biggest piracy places, but when you make a good presentation and show them how opensource is better on the long run they will listen and ignore propriety software.
[20:11] <turbo_> by 2010 the high school here is going to run linux 100%
[20:11] <pub> ahhh
[20:11] <NetEcho> Jack_Sparrow unfortunatly I'm spoiled at work
[20:11] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow: flash pen
[20:11] <pub> i see, thank you odd-rationale
[20:11] <NetEcho> if one of our disks don't work we usualy have about 300 other copies
[20:11] <turbo_> thanks to me :D
[20:12] <justme> HardDisk, a joke or do you really live there ^^ ?
[20:12] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow: no led light comes on
[20:12] <HardDisk> justme, why would I joke?
[20:12] <Jack_Sparrow> biff_tannen What format is the partition on the pen and have you tried to mount manually or force mount
[20:12] <HardDisk> justme, I am Egyptian :)
[20:12] <justme> ok ^^
[20:12] <turbo_> lol
[20:12] <justme> cool :>
[20:12] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow: fat32
[20:12] <niocholas_jones> xmms-oggre: Depends: xmms but it is not installable
[20:12] <niocholas_jones> why's this? I just upgraded to Hardy
[20:12] <justme> never thought I would meet people from far away in here
[20:12] <justme> ^^
[20:12] <turbo_> ....
[20:12] <pen> anyone know how to make evdev hotplug?
[20:12] <HardDisk> niocholas_jones, xmms is obsolete
[20:12] <NetEcho> Jack_Sparrow, biff_tannen; looks like cleaning the lens and disk did it
[20:12] <olskolirc> I got it guys thanks.  I was using Oss
[20:12] <niocholas_jones> really?
[20:12] <turbo_> niocholas_jones: why xmms?
[20:12] <niocholas_jones> it's like winamp :P
[20:13] <olskolirc> its back on alsa and everything is fine :-)
[20:13] <niocholas_jones> and I like'd winamp :P
[20:13] <HardDisk> justme, welcome to our world of opensource :D
[20:13] <Jack_Sparrow> justme from every nook and cranny around the globe
[20:13] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow: I haven't tried tried manual force
[20:13] <turbo_> it is obsolete, like hard disk said
[20:13] <niocholas_jones> what is the alternative ?
[20:13] <justme> ^^
[20:13] <NetEcho> Jack_Sparrow can you point me to the link for re-installing grub , I seem to have closed the windows
[20:13] <Jack_Sparrow> NetEcho Remind me to smack youlater
[20:13] <NetEcho> -s
[20:13] <turbo_> rhythmbox
[20:13] <turbo_> banshee
[20:13] <justme> opensource: connecting people
[20:13] <justme> not Nokia :D
[20:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[20:13] <HardDisk> niocholas_jones, xmm2 is now the new one, use a GUI frontend there are many options
[20:13] <niocholas_jones> what's most like winamp ?
[20:13] <NetEcho> thanks
[20:13] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow: no entry in fdisk
[20:13] <Richrd> soundray: I mean that I only want one pointer and two mice to control it with. They just need different settings.
[20:13] <HardDisk> niocholas_jones, or use audacious its closer.
[20:13] <niocholas_jones> HardDisk, yea I installed xmms2,  but there is no GUI
[20:13] <Jack_Sparrow> biff_tannen Lets try a few things.. one sec
[20:14] <HardDisk> niocholas_jones, you have to install the GUI separately, check the xmms2 website for a whole bunch of GUI choices
[20:14] <HardDisk> niocholas_jones, or just go with audacious
[20:14] <turbo_> its too bad the people can't get over bad habits...
[20:14] <niocholas_jones> hrm interesting
[20:14] <niocholas_jones> I'll try audacios
[20:14] <turbo_> audacious is good.
[20:14] <HardDisk> :)
[20:14] <Jack_Sparrow> biff_tannen lsusb, lspci lshw   to list detected hardware...       try sudo /etc/init.d/hal start   to try and get a usb drive recognized..
[20:14] <niocholas_jones> alright installing..
[20:14] <niocholas_jones> installed..
[20:14] <niocholas_jones> trying..
[20:14] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow: ok
[20:14] <niocholas_jones> oh cool
[20:14] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow: 2 secs
[20:15] <niocholas_jones> this is like winamp as well :)
[20:15] <niocholas_jones> I like this
[20:15] <niocholas_jones> neat
[20:15] <niocholas_jones> thanks guys
[20:15] <turbo_> that was the point...
[20:15] <niocholas_jones> :P
[20:15] <turbo_> :)
[20:15] <HardDisk> np
[20:15] <neya7> Question: can linux/dns handle domains such as me.local or any domain that the root has more than 3 characters?
[20:15] <niocholas_jones> :)
[20:15] <turbo_> thats why harddisk suggested it :)
[20:15] <justme> how long is NORMAL support cycle (not long term support) ?
[20:15] <justme> 2 years?
[20:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !eol
[20:15] <turbo_> .....who supports ubuntu
[20:15] <turbo_> :)
[20:16] <ssn> hi guys
[20:16] <turbo_> support is until the next release comes out
[20:16] <HardDisk> yep
[20:16] <Jack_Sparrow> turbo_ wrong..
[20:16] <turbo_> lts just maintains support through all new distributions
[20:16] <HardDisk> support is dependent on the cycle
[20:16] <ASULutzy> turbo_: Hardy is LTS
[20:16] <turbo_> well... 6 years..
[20:16] <pub> odd-rationale, do you have any experience with snort? or anyone else that does
[20:17] <HardDisk> in 6 years I'll have at least 3 kids :)
[20:17] <turbo_> but Feisty and Gutsy arent....
[20:17] <bobstro> pub: you're still at it i see!
[20:17] <pen> anyone know how to make evdev hotplug?
[20:17] <pub> haha, hey bobstro
[20:17] <strtok> aye
[20:17] <justme> pub, yes it writes EXTREMELY BIG logs
[20:17] <Jack_Sparrow> turbo Ubuntu releases are supported for 18 months. Ubuntu LTS (Long Term Support) releases are supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[20:17] <justme> ^^
[20:17] <justme> (snort)
[20:17] <bobstro> pub: your firewall all happy now?
[20:17] <ssn> in ubuntu 8.04, i used the properities dialog of a partition to set the mount point. unfortunatly, i gave it a / at the beginning, now the disk does not mount because it doesnt like /. how do i get rid of this?
[20:17] <strtok> if a distro is dropped in support, someone should leave behind the update-manager-core package for the release being dropped
[20:17] <the_eraser> anyone into packages?
[20:17] <strtok> so at least people can still upgrade
[20:17] <strtok> :P
[20:17] <turbo_> thats what it was...5 years...
[20:17] <pub> no bobstro, it doesn't start up with fluxbox
[20:17] <NetEcho> Jack_Sparrow  how do I tell which hd0,* entry is my XP?
[20:18] <bobstro> pub: ugh. did you try the iptables-save stuff?
[20:18] <LogiTech> is any1 here who got XPS M1530 for gaming...pm me pls...
[20:18] <NetEcho> I know its a bit different then in lilo
[20:18] <strtok> or update-manager-core should be a core package
[20:18] <HardDisk> strtok, you had ample time to upgrade.
[20:18] <turbo_> NetEcho: fdisk look for ntfs partition
[20:18] <HardDisk> strtok, you decided to upgrade after the cycle ended :/
[20:18] <Jack_Sparrow> strtok You change your sources list to the next release in the series and you can distro-upgrade to it
[20:18] <NetEcho> turbo_ sda1 would be hd0,0 right?
[20:18] <pub> bobstro, not yet i have to read much about it, snort installed to a random dir not /.snort
[20:18] <ASULutzy> distro upgrades sometimes go smoothly, sometimes not so smoothly
[20:18] <turbo_> oh,
[20:18] <spiritsmoke> Can anyone explain how to change dir in the command line ....... I'm trying to point alien to a file on my desktop to change the .rpm files to .deb
[20:18] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19701/
[20:18] <HardDisk> distro-upgrade will work though, but it may break
[20:18] <turbo_> it will be.
[20:18] <bobstro> pub: snort's a big jump! :)
[20:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Edgy Distro upgrade... edit /etc/apt/sources, change all edgy to feisty, apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:19] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow: brb
[20:19] <NetEcho> turbo_ so if XP is sda3 it'll be hd0,2?
[20:19] <ASULutzy> spiritsmoke: use cd?
[20:19] <hoens> how do i get a console only login?
[20:19] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[20:19] <unavailable> spiritsmoke  cd dirtochangeto
[20:19] <pub> bobstro, hehe so where should i start first? iptables or snort
[20:19] <bobstro> hoens: permanently, or just one session?
[20:19] <strtok> maybe that will get my update-manager-core at least?
[20:19] <strtok> :P
[20:19] <hoens> just 1 session bobstro
[20:19] <Jack_Sparrow> spiritsmoke alien is a bad thing to do to your pc
[20:19] <HardDisk> strtok, but be prepared to have your system possibly break.
[20:19] <bobstro> pub: got to run, sorry
[20:19] <turbo_> ugh...
[20:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !alien
[20:19] <pub> bobstro, no problem talk to you later?
[20:19] <HardDisk> strtok, which is why it's better to do a clean install
[20:19] <unavailable> !cd
[20:19] <hoens> tried alt/ctrl f1-11
[20:19] <spiritsmoke> ASULutzy can you give me and example of cd in a command line please
[20:20] <ASULutzy> cd /home/$USER/Desktop
[20:20] <Jack_Sparrow> spiritsmoke cd Desktop
[20:20] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow: any ideas?
[20:20] <strtok> i don't have time to do a clean install; i'll just leave it at 6.10 for a few weeks
[20:20] <turbo_> 0,2...how many channels do you have?
[20:20] <turbo_> it's SATA, right?
[20:20] <unavailable> spiritsmoke  cd is CaSe SensitiVe
[20:20] <RiotingPacifist> is firefox3 going to hit repos on tuesday?
[20:20] <ssn> in ubuntu 8.04, i used the properities dialog of a partition to set the mount point. unfortunatly, i gave it a / at the beginning, now the disk does not mount because it doesnt like /. how do i get rid of this?
[20:20] <Jack_Sparrow> biff_tannen If still nothing on that flash, have you tried it on any other pc
[20:20] <pen> anyone know how to make evdev hotplug?
[20:20] <turbo_> ssn /etc/fstab
[20:21] <turbo_> ssn: nano /etc/fstab
[20:21] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow: yeah
[20:21] <dcedata> nogle fra danmark ?
[20:21] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow: works
[20:21] <Jack_Sparrow> biff_tannen I take it it does work off your windows machine
[20:21] <pen> anyone know how to make evdev hotplug?
[20:21] <ssn> turbo_: no
[20:21] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow: yeah
[20:22] <HardDisk> pen you've been repeating that a lot, keep your repeats longer periods
[20:22] <ssn> there is no line with the device or the mountpoint
[20:22] <HardDisk> pen, if someone knows they will answer
[20:22] <ssn> i looked there first
[20:22] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow: that was where i last unmounted it
[20:22] <ssn> the mere fact that it isnt there makes no sense to me
[20:22] <ssn> but a lot of thins in ubuntu make no sense to me :D
[20:22] <biff_tannen> jack pm me gotta go for bbq ;)
[20:22] <turbo_> ssn: ...is it a removable drive
[20:22] <Jack_Sparrow> biff_tannen Unplug it wait 30 seconds and plug it back in.. then check dmesg is what I have in my notes...  but I dont mess with those very often
[20:22] <turbo_> ssn: if it is mounted at boot it's in fstab
[20:23] <esteth> Could anyone tell me where to get madwifi releases? The site appears to be down
[20:23] <ssn> turbo_: no, it is not mounted at boot and its a whole harddisk sitting in my pc
[20:23] <biff_tannen> jack_s will do gotta go but if you still on in 30 mins catch you then peace
[20:23] <turbo_> is it mounted right now?
[20:23] <pen> HardDisk, I'm hard keeping a regular period, because I have been waiting for a long time
[20:23] <ssn> it is recognized by ubuntu / gnome, but i can only mount it manually, because the mountpoint i gave it in gnome doesnt work
[20:23] <pen> HardDisk, sorry if this bother you are you admin?
[20:23] <biff_tannen> Jack_Sparrow:  danke
[20:24] <ssn> because it has a / in it
[20:24] <HardDisk> pen this is a voluntary channel.
[20:24] <turbo_> pen, nobody knows. look elsewhere or be patient
[20:24] <Richrd> Has anybody managed to connect two mice & got them to work at the same time & configured them differently in xorg.config?
[20:24] <HardDisk> pen, just keep your repeats longer.
[20:24] <pen> HardDisk, then do you know the answer?
[20:24] <HardDisk> pen, have you checked the forums?
[20:24] <turbo_> ssn....
[20:24] <turbo_> what do you want?
[20:24] <Flare183> !guidelines | pen
[20:24] <Jack_Sparrow> pen You do need to slow down the repeats.. it isnt a common question
[20:25] <turbo_> you want it automatically mounted?