[12:16] <AsciiWolf> teward, Hi! Is the new build (with the gpg patch, but without gnupg dependency) of torbrowser-launcher SRU available? If so, feel free to send me a link, I would like to test it :)
[18:36] <teward> AsciiWolf: not yet.   THanks!
[19:04] <rbasak> I don't worry about FTP security for package uploads, since it gets verified at the other end with gpg anyway
[19:04] <rbasak> (and as for anyone else being able to read it, it ends up public anyway :)
[19:06] <AsciiWolf> :)
[19:06] <AsciiWolf> teward, thanks
[19:07] <teward> rbasak: yeah, well, it's one of the blocked protocols in my snort rules
[19:07] <teward> so i had to rewrite my rules
[19:07] <teward> just to permit to upload.u.c
[19:16] <teward> AsciiWolf: so to answer your question: you don't need to do any more testing - there's no functional difference except that we don't include gnupg in the deps
[19:17] <teward> once it's built/available it'll be in -updates so :p
[19:18] <AsciiWolf> teward, ok :)
[19:42] <teward> AsciiWolf: well it's in -proposed now if you want to test it there
[19:42] <teward> per rbasak's message about it being accepted to proposed
[19:43] <teward> follow testing there  :P
[20:28] <AsciiWolf> teward, done :)


[01:20] <batrix> can someone here help tell me where i need to have the lircrc for xmms to work?
[01:46] <batrix> anyone here at all?
[01:47] <laga> this channel is mostly about mythtv
[01:47] <laga> it's ~/.lircrc usually
[01:47] <batrix> yea i know
[01:48] <batrix> i have it set up there but for some reason it hates me :(
[01:48] <batrix> i also have ~/.xmms/.lircrc
[01:49] <laga> what do you have in your lircrc?
[01:50] <laga> isn't xmms old and not developed anymore?
[01:50] <batrix> its still developed i think
[01:50] <laga> hum
[01:50] <tgm4883> xmms is still developed
[01:50] <laga> do you have the lirc plugin for xmms?
[01:50] <tgm4883> but have you tried #xmms?
[01:50] <batrix> begin
[01:50] <batrix>   prog = xmms
[01:50] <batrix>   remote = Leadtek_Y04G0004
[01:50] <batrix>   button = Power
[01:50] <batrix>   repeat = 2
[01:50] <batrix>   config = QUIT
[01:51] <batrix> end
[01:52] <laga> heh, xmms was removed from gentoo and slackware
[01:53] <batrix> i compiled it etc.. from sourc
[02:03] <batrix> lol laga
[02:04] <batrix> figured out my problem i think for one irexec wasn't started
[02:15] <batrix> can someone please tell me how to run irexec in the background without having to open a terminal using irexec &
[02:16] <tgm4883> put it in your session startup?
[02:16] <batrix> yeah i did i put it in as irexec
[02:16] <batrix> and it doesn't seem to work
[02:19] <batrix> gonna test something brb
[02:20] <batrix> ok i got it
[02:21] <batrix> irexec -d /home/username/.lircrc
[02:32] <batrix> hey tgm4883 can you show me your dmesg for lirc please
[02:57] <tux_fl> hi ;)
[02:57] <tux_fl> what do i have to edit to connect nvidia to my TV?
[03:04] <tgm4883> !pastebin
[03:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:05] <tgm4883> batrix, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35996/
[03:05] <laga> tux_fl: xorg.conf
[03:05] <tgm4883> tux_fl, how are you trying to connect it
[03:05] <laga> tux_fl: check the nvidia docs and wiki.mythtv.org
[03:56] <tux_fl> thanks, first try failed after editing section monitor.  Guess there  is more to go.  TV still working ;) ;)
[04:22] <tgm4883_laptop> im bored
[04:22] <laga> go to bed?
[04:23] <tgm4883_laptop> it's only 7:30, err 19:30
[04:24] <laga> oh
[04:24] <laga> i thought you were in the UK
[04:24] <laga> it's almost 4:30 am here
[04:25] <tgm4883_laptop> nope, west coast USA
[05:48] <superm1> hey guys
[05:48] <superm1> Daviey, you here?
[07:10] <MythbuntuGuest26> Haya, is there currently issues with the .iso download (X86)? It says it is done at around 25mb.
[07:12] <tgm4883> MythbuntuGuest26, where are you downloading from?
[07:14] <MythbuntuGuest26> mythbuntu.org had a link .. I found a .torrent that's cruizing along at the usual 1KB/sec .. lol
[07:14] <superm1> did Daviey take down the link directly to the IOS?
[07:14] <superm1> ISO
[07:15] <tgm4883> yea Daviey took the ISO's down
[07:15] <superm1> why?
[07:15] <tgm4883> he's switching it to his dreamhost server
[07:15] <tgm4883> I dont really know why
[07:15] <superm1> well this makes it a bit hard for polorix.net to mirror it
[07:15] <superm1> i told them to mirror from Daviey's box...
[07:15] <tgm4883> true
[07:15] <tgm4883> hmm
[07:16] <tgm4883> I don't know if he knew that
[07:16] <superm1> hmphf.
[07:16] <tgm4883> NineTeen67Comet, yea, you probably got 25MB of it then it was taken down
[07:16] <NineTeen67Comet> I'm downloading Ubuntu Gutsy herd5 as well just incase. I've just had little luck with Myth/lirc and the like working for me. Usually have resorted to fireing up each part (MPlayer/Xine, XMMS etc) ..
[07:16] <superm1> its supposed to be ~413 mb
[07:17] <superm1> NineTeen67Comet, what sort of troubles were you having in herd5?
[07:17] <tgm4883> Currently can only get them from the torrents
[07:17] <NineTeen67Comet> Yeah .. the torrent says 'roun 412mb ..
[07:17] <tgm4883> superm1, we really need to get it on canonical servers
[07:17] <superm1> things should be looking much better now even outside Mythbuntu
[07:17] <superm1> tgm4883, yea...
[07:17] <NineTeen67Comet> No troubles yet with Herd5 (it has been on and off my server for a few days) ..
[07:17] <NineTeen67Comet> It is downloading.
[07:17] <NineTeen67Comet> Feisty and I never got along as well as Edgy and I did .. ;)
[07:18] <superm1> well gutsy should be a much more friendly experience for lirc especially
[07:18] <NineTeen67Comet> My current Media box is running Feisty and has done well (no remote, freevo or Myth though) ..
[07:18] <tgm4883> arg
[07:19] <tgm4883> this hook thing will be the death of me
[07:21] <NineTeen67Comet> Do you all know if the PVR-150 is pretty functional w/Ubuntu/Linux? I've had it for a while, but never slowed down enough to fire it up and play with it. That is what I am hoping to get working.
[07:21] <superm1> NineTeen67Comet, yes very much so functional
[07:21] <superm1> out of the box on feisty and gutsy
[07:22] <NineTeen67Comet> Shweeew, they don't have much of a selection at the BX. It was that, or the WinTV PVR that didn't look as rich.
[07:22] <NineTeen67Comet> Or a USB TV deal that I really didn't want to resort to.
[07:22] <superm1> well the pvr-150 was a good choice
[07:23] <NineTeen67Comet> Goodn deal, thanks. I had another one, but the cable connector broke off.
[07:23] <NineTeen67Comet> Also, do you know how to get the text looking a little sharper on a traditional TV? It is at 600x800 and still bearly legable (Movies and TV look grand though).
[07:23] <superm1> mess around with nvidia-settings
[07:24] <superm1> assuming its an nvidia card
[07:24] <NineTeen67Comet> superm1 n'kay .. I will, I used that to get it back to TV from LCD and TV ..
[07:24] <NineTeen67Comet> Yeah, It is a 6800 I beleive.
[07:24] <superm1> when you get alpha4 installed, there is an option in the mythtv menus for "mythbuntu"
[07:24] <superm1> choose that
[07:24] <superm1> and it will pull up utils like nvidia-settings for you
[07:24] <NineTeen67Comet> aha .. awesome.
[08:13] <NineTeen67Comet> WoooHoo .. 1%
[08:30] <NineTeen67Comet> I lied it is a 5700 AGP card... still 1% .. sigh
[08:33] <superm1> i can't seem to help the seeding much either
[08:33] <superm1> hmpf
[08:33] <superm1> Daviey, get up, we need to get this up somewhere else
[08:43] <NineTeen67Comet> lol .. Wish everyone was on JST time .. My mid-day is my friends midnight ..
[08:45] <NineTeen67Comet> I'm trying Azureus now FrostWire didn't seem to be moving along very well.
[09:04] <NineTeen67Comet> Looks like Transmission is a much faster client than Fristwire or Azureus... still .. 6 days seems a long time ..
[09:20] <foxbuntu> morning superm1
[09:21] <foxbuntu> tgm4883, hows it going?
[09:33] <NineTeen67Comet> Is the install of MythTV via aptitude easy 'nuff? I've got a Feisty Alternate CD handy .. could upgrade it to Gutsy faster than downloading it all right now.
[09:35] <foxbuntu> NineTeen67Comet, Its pretty str8 forward, however I would do the upgr to Gutsy first
[09:36] <foxbuntu> just besure to pick the right backend and frontend packages to use
[09:36] <foxbuntu> like mythtv-backend-master
[09:40] <Xenocrates> Is there a way to clear the recording logs for a single show in MythTV?
[09:56] <NineTeen67Comet> foxbuntu .. Okay, I found a tutorial via the forums .. Since my server lacks a PVR card, I'll just usse my media box as both a front and backend and have it rsync with my server to keep the movie directory populated with current stuff (I don't have TV going just my movies I've ripped)
[10:55] <MythbuntuGuest12> nvidia propieraty drivers with composite out doesn't work in the installer
[11:00] <superm1> NineTeen67Comet, hopefully you just got a spike in speed.  I managed to finally get some proper seeding working :)
[11:06] <Daviey> superm1: :)
[11:06] <superm1> hey Daviey
[11:07] <Daviey> Sorry, I had to remove the mirror for the moment.. It was getting hammered
[11:07] <superm1> isn't that what mirrors are for?
[11:07] <superm1> :)
[11:07] <Daviey> heh
[11:08] <Daviey> At the rate i was serving, I would have been pushing out >700Gb for the month!
[11:08] <superm1> haha
[11:08] <superm1> wow
[11:09] <Daviey> Torrent is stable
[11:09] <superm1> well should be now
[11:09] <superm1> i got majoridiot's server to join
[11:09] <Daviey> I've pushed >2Gb @ home
[11:09] <superm1> so he is pushing out 1200kb/s right now
[11:09] <Daviey> popey is also torrenting from the same datacentre
[11:10] <Daviey> I've been asking questions re: Canonical hosting
[11:10] <superm1> oh?
[11:10] <superm1> with whom?
[11:10] <Daviey> Trying to get hold of elmo
[11:10] <Daviey> Askign ie #canonical-sysadmin and adding a note to the bug you raised re LoCo hosting
[11:10] <superm1> no luck with elmo as of yet?
[11:11] <Daviey> no
[11:11] <superm1> well i think the more important part at this point is going to be somewhere to put the cdimage
[11:11] <superm1> eg if we could get cdimages.ubuntu.com
[11:11] <Daviey> at one point i was serving at > 16Mb/sec
[11:11] <superm1> wow.
[11:11] <Daviey> probably not
[11:12] <Daviey> *yet*
[11:12] <superm1> well i think to get on cdimages.ubuntu.com in the first place, the build process needs to be migrated to their
[11:12] <superm1> which right now its as close as its ever been
[11:12] <Daviey> probably point cdimages.mythbuntu.org to a canonical server :)
[12:05] <superm1_> hexxeh|work, in the change i'm uploading tonight, i'm fixing mythstream problems as well as adding | usplash to ubuntu-mythtv-frontend dependencies so as to make your backport diff a little smaller
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #135431 in mythtv (multiverse) "mythtv-database depends on update-notifier only" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135431
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #131092 in ubiquity "multiple copies of install scripts" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/131092
[04:13] <ichat> probably im looking in the wrong place - but   i couldn't find any info on remote controller suport  for  pincale controller
[04:24] <cornel1> I know this is a general linux question, but...     I want to know the users defined on a linux system, does /etc/passwd have every user?
[04:30] <NineTeen67Comet> Do I have to have mythtv-backend running on the box I'm using as MySQL server?
[04:30] <NineTeen67Comet> My headless x-less server is where I usually run all my SQL stuff off.
[04:31] <NineTeen67Comet> If I aptitude mythtv-backend it tries to drag in a bunch of xorg/related stuff...
[04:34] <cornel1> Night, NineTeen67Comet
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #136785 in lirc (main) "Please include support for streamzap remote in Lirc" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136785
[05:48] <tgm4883> superm1, you around?
[07:08] <bendailey> superm1, hello
[07:08] <superm1> g'afternoon
[07:08] <laga> hi guys
[07:10] <bendailey> My ISP was a no go on a mirror but I am finishing arrangements on another mirror as we speak
[07:10] <superm1> bendailey, ah very good.
[07:10] <superm1> what happened with the ISP?
[07:10] <bendailey> I saw that you took direct downloads of line
[07:10] <superm1> well Daviey did, because they were a wee bit busy
[07:11] <bendailey> I don't pay them for hosting and they pay metered bandwidth upstream
[07:11] <superm1> and would have pushed him over his BW limits at his host
[07:11] <superm1> oh that's a pretty good reason
[07:14] <bendailey> ok I just purchased a hosting packages with 100GB  per month of transfer to run as a mirror
[07:14] <bendailey> brb, need to but my son down for a nap
[07:14] <superm1> k
[07:14] <superm1> tgm4883, laga did you see my fix for mythstream?
[07:21] <bendailey> superm1, do you want a specific directory structure for the mirror?
[07:22] <superm1> bendailey, for CD images not really a big deal
[07:22] <superm1> i'd say just an open directory would suffice
[07:26] <Daviey> Hey
[07:26] <foxbuntu> hey superm1
[07:26] <superm1> hi foxbuntu
[07:27] <superm1> hi Daviey
[07:27] <Daviey> superm1: I think we should try and keep them standard - would make it easier to insert links on release notes etc
[07:27] <superm1> Daviey, huh?
[07:27] <superm1> keep what standard
[07:27] <superm1> oh cd images
[07:27] <Daviey> 17:22 < superm1> bendailey, for CD images not really a big deal
[07:27] <superm1> yea... a little slow this afternoon i am
[07:27] <Daviey> heh
[07:29] <Daviey> superm1: when are we going to announce signed mirrors?
[07:30] <superm1> Daviey, still can't get the one on axel's box to mirror everything
[07:30] <superm1> dunno why
[07:30] <Daviey> -- There was discussion on the possibility of having a generic PPA signature.. I think that would be awful!
[07:30] <superm1> where did  you hear this discussion?
[07:30] <Daviey> hmm
[07:30] <Daviey> wait 1
[07:31] <Daviey> btw.. did you see SABDFL's email re; PPA?
[07:31] <superm1> yea but it looked pretty generic so i didn't read the whole thing
[07:31] <Daviey> It was a mail-merge style, and we got a mention :D
[07:32] <superm1> really?
[07:32] <Daviey> We already have
[07:32] <Daviey> some fun projects using this, like MythBuntu. You can see their PPA overview
[07:32] <Daviey> here:
[07:32] <superm1> ha fancy that
[07:32] <superm1> awesome
[07:33] <superm1> well we were the first group to get on the PPA before it was announced
[07:33] <Daviey> Regarding generic signing; I think it might have been on IRC.. probably just an idea bounce
[07:33] <Daviey> i *hope*
[07:34] <laga> superm1: yeah, juski committed the mythstream fix
[07:34] <superm1> laga, that was quick
[07:34] <superm1> i just filed that like 8 hours ago
[07:35] <Daviey> juski no doubt wanted to exercise his svn prvs.
[07:37] <superm1> amazing how a small letter can make so much trouble :)
[07:37] <bendailey> Daviey, proposed Directory Structure?
[07:38] <Daviey> Well..
[07:38] <Daviey> possibly mimic ubuntu's?
[07:39] <bendailey> sorry, have to go for awhile
[07:39] <Daviey> bendailey: no hurry for structure; just a link woild do for now
[07:39] <Daviey> :)
[07:41] <Daviey> superm1: heard from mirror.polorix.net?
[07:41] <superm1> Daviey, they can't exactly mirror us when there is no direct link
[07:41] <superm1> but chris didn't mail me back
[07:41] <superm1> perhaps he's out of town or something
[07:41] <Daviey> superm1: I can provide a direct link offlist
[07:42] <superm1> Daviey, okay
[07:42] <superm1> i'll send him that
[07:44] <superm1> Daviey, i dont get it, running the mirror script with a clean directory even
[07:44] <superm1> its not working
[07:44] <superm1> the only debs its pulling are ubiquity
[07:44] <superm1> nothing more
[07:45] <superm1> not even source packages for anything else
[07:46] <Daviey> :S
[07:46] <Daviey> Funnilly enough, i can't get the build script to run on my server
[07:46] <superm1> what is with all these oddities
[07:46] <Daviey> debootstrap segfaulted
[07:48] <Daviey> Anybody have an experience with throttling apache2?
[07:48] <superm1> well see i can blame my oddities on this being a Rhel5 box
[07:48] <superm1> and the fact that i had to compile apt and bzr
[07:48] <Daviey> RH sux :D
[07:48] <superm1> :)
[07:49] <Daviey> compile bzr?
[07:49] <Daviey> I just assumed it was plain python
[07:50] <Daviey> Oh.. here's an odd thing.. Liferea RSS reader.. Didn't show the Alpha4 release notes from the ubuntu-planet RSS feed
[07:50] <Daviey> :S
[07:50] <superm1> neither did iGoogle
[07:50] <Daviey> and.. drupal thought that it was already dugg
[07:50] <Daviey> with alpha 3 release
[07:50] <superm1> hm lots of weird stuff then..
[07:51] <superm1> yea google reader doesnt think its new either
[07:51] <superm1> wonder whats up with that?
[07:51] <Daviey> ffs
[07:51] <superm1> it did show up on planet right?
[07:51] <Daviey> yep
[07:51] <Daviey> still there
[07:52] <Daviey> halfway down
[07:52] <superm1> hm and its in mythbuntu.org/rss.xml
[07:52] <superm1> that's really bzr
[07:53] <Daviey> Maybe cause the name was so similar?
[07:54] <superm1> well that would explain the digg problem
[07:54] <superm1> but nothing more
[07:55] <superm1> interesting
[07:55] <superm1> i think i found what is doing it
[07:55] <superm1> its that freaking clean.sh thing
[07:57] <Daviey> yes!
[07:57] <superm1> why though?
[07:57] <Daviey> I commented it out as it seemed to be rm too much
[07:57] <superm1> why does take out so much?
[07:57] <Daviey> :s
[07:58] <superm1> awesome!
[07:58] <superm1> things work now
[07:58] <Daviey> >:)
[07:58] <Daviey> all signed?
[07:58] <Daviey> or rather signing work?
[07:58] <superm1> okay let me just remove it and add it to a cron a few minutes from now
[07:58] <superm1> and make sure it runs out of the cron fine
[07:58] <superm1> and then we're golden
[07:59] <Daviey> remember cron will email you crap, if you don't > /dev/null the cronjob
[07:59] <superm1> it .bashrc sourced in cron?
[07:59] <superm1> because i need to change LD_LIBRARY_PATH and PATH when its run from it
[08:00] <Daviey> no
[08:00] <Daviey> normally cron has NO env. variables
[08:00] <superm1> hm that's not a good thing.
[08:00] <Daviey> try it tho
[08:00] <superm1> well i'll just add it to the start of the mirror script
[08:00] <superm1> won't hurt
[08:01] <Daviey> Can't you just add it to the script?
[08:02] <Daviey> or make a wrapper .sh?
[08:03] <superm1> well modifying the script won't hurt
[08:03] <superm1> bzr will still merge the changes locally
[08:03] <superm1> if its update
[08:04] <superm1> okay brb,
[08:16] <superm1> hm still didn't run
[08:16] <superm1> didn't even go into a log file like i ordered it to
[08:26] <Daviey> is cron working for you as a user?
[08:27] <superm1> it would appear not.
[08:27] <superm1> i'm not sure how i can really check though
[08:28] <Daviey> set it to output to console?
[08:28] <superm1> how?
[08:28] <Daviey> or echo "test" > ~/sss.txt
[08:28] <Daviey> * * * echo "working" 2>&1 /dev/console
[08:29] <Daviey> ^ change for desired setting
[08:29] <superm1> i dont exactly have access to the console session
[08:29] <superm1> but i followed this: * * * * * echo "test" > /home/mlimonciello/sss.txt
[08:29] <superm1> and i sure don't see an sss.txt in /home/mlimonciello
[08:29] <Daviey> that should work
[08:33] <superm1> well i have a feeling something is going into /var/log/cron
[08:33] <superm1> because its edit time is every minute
[08:33] <Daviey> ah
[08:33] <superm1> but i can't read it
[08:33] <Daviey> you might be flooding sysadmin eith erros then @O
[08:33] <Daviey> :o
[08:34] <superm1> well i'll shoot a mail to Axel then
[08:34] <Daviey> Did axel not want to be a cd mirror?
[08:35] <foxbuntu> Daviey, where ddi you buy your mirrror space?
[08:36] <Daviey> foxbuntu: it's UK
[08:36] <superm1> Daviey, he only offered hosting weekly builds
[08:36] <superm1> nothing else
[08:36] <superm1> so i didnt want to push my luck with him
[08:36] <Daviey> superm1: agreed
[08:37] <Daviey> foxbuntu: If you want a full ubuntu machine: vpsvillage.com
[08:37] <Daviey> You get root access etc, so do as you please
[08:37] <superm1> okay well if he doesn't get back to me by tomorrow, i say that we'll announce weekly builds and just have it on manual for now
[08:37] <foxbuntu> superm1, what kind of access would be needed to a mirror server for now?
[08:37] <Daviey> foxbuntu: user only
[08:37] <superm1> foxbuntu, if it does builds, root
[08:37] <superm1> if it is just a host, user
[08:38] <foxbuntu> hmm
[08:38] <Daviey> superm1: what went wrong with fakeroot building?
[08:38] <superm1> Daviey, a lot
[08:38] <Daviey> oh
[08:38] <superm1> Daviey, the plan was going to be to have axel's box build the source package, submit it up to ppa.launchpad.net, and then mirror it 12 hours or so later
[08:38] <foxbuntu> because there is a hosting service I know for $7/mon you get 2.5TB a month in xfer
[08:39] <foxbuntu> but I don't think you get root access
[08:39] <Daviey> foxbuntu: not dreamhost per chance?
[08:39] <foxbuntu> Daviey, no
[08:39] <foxbuntu> AN Hosting
[08:39] <Daviey> bandwidth is much cheaper in the US than UK
[08:40] <Daviey> and get this, many of out main datacentres have power problems
[08:40] <Daviey> ie.. not enough plug sockets :D
[08:42] <Daviey> superm1: I just had a thought.. i have a dreamhost account - that can mirror all day long!
[08:43] <superm1> Daviey, dreamhost has no limit?
[08:43] <Daviey> well pratically
[08:44] <superm1> well i dont see why not then
[08:44] <Daviey> currently naff domain tho
[08:45] <Daviey> unless bendailey can add another
[08:45] <Daviey> it's currently: daviey.mooo.com
[08:45] <superm1> yea i'm sure he can add another
[08:45] <superm1> ask him when he gets back
[08:45] <Daviey> will do
[08:46] <Daviey> I've got 2304Gb of bandwith to use with dreamhost
[08:46] <Daviey> raising by 16Gb per week
[08:46] <superm1> wow
[08:46] <Daviey> but they are not *fast*
[08:46] <Daviey> feel free to do a speed test
[08:47] <Daviey> http://daviey.mooo.com/mythbuntu/
[08:47] <Daviey> http://daviey.mooo.com/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-7.10~070830-amd64.iso
[08:47] <superm1> you kidding?
[08:47] <superm1> 400 kb/s
[08:47] <Daviey> wgetting atm, so the filesize will be small
[08:47] <superm1> oh wait its dropping off
[08:47] <superm1> it went down to 150
[08:47] <Daviey> eeek.. that is better than i thought
[08:47] <Daviey> oh, accross the alantic i get 50-60Kb/s
[08:48] <superm1> yea not bad here
[08:49] <Daviey> superm1: another idea; will your school mirror?
[08:49] <superm1> Daviey, well they don't mirror any other linux items, so i wouldn't think so
[08:49] <superm1> and i'm graduating this semester
[08:50] <Daviey> bet you can't wait
[08:50] <superm1> :)
[08:51] <superm1> well speaking of which, i do have a few things to attend to today
[08:51] <superm1> i'll be back later on
[08:54] <Daviey> k
[09:08] <bendailey> Daviey, ping
[09:09] <Daviey> bendailey: ello
[09:10] <Daviey> bendailey: when you get a chance can you make another DNS entry?
[09:11] <bendailey> where should I get the ISO's from? Or can I give you an ftp account and have you upload them?
[09:11] <bendailey> yeah hit me with the DNS entry I think I am still logged in to make changes
[09:11] <Daviey> bendailey: http://daviey.mooo.com/mythbuntu
[09:11] <Daviey> but wait 10 mins for them to finish getting
[09:12] <Daviey> bendailey: hmm not sure what to have..
[09:12] <Daviey> maybe us.cdimage.mythbuntu.org  (but i'll happily give it up to somebody else, if requested)
[09:13] <Daviey> can you make it CNAME -> daviey.dreamhosters.com
[09:14] <foxbuntu> Daviey, I might need us.cdimage.mythbuntu.com :P
[09:14] <Daviey> foxbuntu: fair enough
[09:14] <foxbuntu> but who knows when that might happen at this rate
[09:15] <Daviey> how are we going to name multiples?
[09:15] <Daviey> starts to look messy imo -> 1.us.cdimage.mythbuntu.com
[09:15] <foxbuntu> we could do something like ia-us.cdimages.mythbuntu.org
[09:15] <bendailey> I am justing going to ask if I should use us1.cdimage.mythbuntu.org
[09:15] <Daviey> ia = state?
[09:15] <foxbuntu> yea
[09:16] <Daviey> foxbuntu: good idea
[09:16] <Daviey> bendailey: what state is your server?
[09:16] <Daviey> my us server is california
[09:16] <bendailey> I am in Indiana I think my server is in Canada
[09:17] <Daviey> bendailey: would ca.cdimage.mythbuntu.org be better for you then?
[09:18] <bendailey> scratch that hosted in Michigan
[09:19] <bendailey> Daviey, Let me know when you are ready for me to grab the isos
[09:19] <Daviey> 2mins
[09:19] <bendailey> ok
[09:20] <bendailey> should I change cname to ca-us.cdimage.mythbuntu.org -> daviey.dreamhosters.com then?
[09:21] <Daviey> us-ca?
[09:21] <Daviey> Ready for DL
[09:21] <bendailey> is tgm4883 taking care of drupal?
[09:21] <bendailey> yeah us-ca looks better to me
[09:22] <Daviey> bendailey: i've updated it now
[09:22] <ichat> just for interest, - what are you guys buiding packages at?
[09:22] <ichat> (hardware wise)
[09:22] <Daviey> ichat: launchpad PPA and other servers
[09:22] <Daviey> i386 and amd64
[09:22] <Daviey> if powerpc gets a request it will be built
[09:22] <ichat> wow. -
[09:23] <ichat> i ment the building machine realy
[09:23] <foxbuntu> Daviey, I want powerPC...so i can build an iMyth
[09:23] <foxbuntu> lol
[09:24] <foxbuntu> sorry bad joke
[09:24] <bendailey> Daviey, do you have us-ca.cdimage or us-ca.cdimages?
[09:24] <bendailey> we currently have uk.cdimages
[09:26] <Daviey> ichat: not much
[09:27] <ichat> well i never tried building say,  mysql or  openbox or  openoffice or apps like that,  (so i just wondered )...
[09:27] <Daviey> ichat: until recently we were using 800Mhz
[09:28] <ichat> hmmzm,  thank the<PHONE_NUMBER>11 god 101   i have little faster than that :blosh
[09:32] <ichat> lol  seeding  @ 0,9 kb/s
[09:33] <ichat> this must be really the slowest i ever seeded in my life
[09:33] <Daviey> ichat: it's all appreciated ;)
[09:34] <bendailey> Daviey, What kind of net connection do you have?
[09:35] <Daviey> bendailey: Home?
[09:35] <Daviey> 20Mb
[09:35] <Daviey> (down)
[09:35] <bendailey> how about up?
[09:36] <Daviey> my server (located in datacentre) served >38Gb in just a few hours!
[09:36] <Daviey> erm up, is lame.. 768K
[09:36] <ichat> lol -  usually im  not happy  at seeding  cuz some times it just  takes   2 out of 2,5 mbit upstream -
[09:36] <bendailey> my is lamer 386
[09:36] <ichat> but this is the other way arround :P
[09:36] <bendailey> wow mine not *my*
[09:37] <bendailey> Daviey is us-ca.cdimages.mythbuntu.org resolving for you?
[09:38] <ichat> lol <IP_ADDRESS> <resolving    us-ca.cdimages.mythbuntu.org
[09:39] <Daviey> $ whois us-ca.cdimages.mythbuntu.org
[09:39] <Daviey> NOT FOUND
[09:39] <Daviey> thats using opendns
[09:39] <foxbuntu> Daviey, you wouldnt get a whois from a cname
[09:39] <Daviey> O RLY
[09:40] <foxbuntu> CNAME just points to another A record
[09:40] <Daviey> foxbuntu: ahh yes
[09:41] <ichat> why not just ping @ host?
[09:41] <Daviey> bendailey: it's resolving.. thanks
[09:42] <bendailey> great
[09:42] <Daviey> $ host us-ca.cdimages.mythbuntu.org
[09:42] <Daviey> us-ca.cdimages.mythbuntu.org    CNAME   daviey.dreamhosters.com
[09:42] <Daviey> daviey.dreamhosters.com A       <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:42] <bendailey> know if I could only figure out a way to move the iso directy to my host instead of down local then up
[09:42] <Daviey> need to set up a vhost...
[09:43] <Daviey> bendailey: got shell access?
[09:44] <ichat> bendailey:  -    if you get  sh access  use wget  if not there is this php code that can do it over ftp,    now let me thing where it was again
[09:44] <Daviey> bendailey: if you haven't got shell access, i can upload it via ftp
[09:44] <Daviey> shell access is best tho
[09:45] <bendailey> I wish I had shell all I have is cpanel
[09:45] <Daviey> bendailey: set me up an ftp account and i'll push it
[09:45] <ichat> me 2
[09:45] <bendailey> great thanks
[09:46] <ichat> cpannel is nice but  a  mirror from server option whould have been nice :P
[09:46] <bendailey> Daviey, pm me a user and pass you want
[09:47] <Daviey> done
[09:49] <bendailey> Let me know if ftp works
[09:49] <Daviey> bendailey: are you identidfied to services?
[09:49] <Daviey> irc?
[09:49] <Daviey> I didn't get a reply
[09:49] <bendailey> yeah irc pm
[09:50] <bendailey> \help
[09:50] <bendailey> did you get my pong?
[09:50] <Daviey> no
[09:50] <Daviey>   /msg nickserv identify PASSWORD
[09:51] <ichat> or  msg nickserv register :P
[09:53] <bendailey> Daviey, Have I got it figured out yet?
[09:53] <Daviey> ah
[09:53] <Daviey> got the pm
[10:03] <MythbuntuGuest30> most likely a silly question but is there a default sudo password aftering installing mythbuntu or did i miss the option? ive done it twice now and didnt see it
[10:13] <MythbuntuGuest30> just pressing enter isnt working
[10:15] <Daviey> MythbuntuGuest30: last i knew, mythbuntu wasn't a sudoer
[10:15] <Daviey> Installation, set up another user - right?
[10:20] <MythbuntuGuest30> ok i just finished completely formatting and reinstalling
[10:20] <MythbuntuGuest30> sudo now works with just pressing enter
[10:20] <MythbuntuGuest30> but you dont think i should be using sudo at all?
[10:21] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest30, the user you made is a sudoer
[10:22] <superm1> so the password you gave it will work to get sudo rights
[10:57] <MythbuntuGuest30> perfect, everything seems to be going well, i think i just have one more question is is there an automated way to install the nvidia drivers?
[10:57] <MythbuntuGuest30> during install trying to use the "install 3rd party graphic drivers" just caused crashes
[10:57] <superm1> Really?
[10:57] <superm1> well that's not good.
[10:58] <MythbuntuGuest30> so i figured i would just use envy
[10:58] <MythbuntuGuest30> but envy complains that it doesnt work with my os
[10:58] <superm1> well once your installed,
[10:58] <superm1> go into settings
[10:58] <superm1> and choose "Mythbuntu"
[10:58] <superm1> there is a proprietary graphics drivers option there
[10:58] <superm1> and you can open up restricted-manager via it
[10:59] <MythbuntuGuest30> i dont know if its possible but i *believe* its my wireless card that was cuasing the crashes
[10:59] <superm1> it is crashing restricted-manager?
[10:59] <MythbuntuGuest30> let me take the word crash back, it locked up the machine for completely
[11:00] <superm1> well very best way to double check
[11:00] <superm1> from a terminal
[11:00] <MythbuntuGuest30> but i couldnt do anything including ctrl+alt+delete
[11:00] <superm1> sudo restricted-manager
[11:00] <MythbuntuGuest30> will try (must run downstairs, different machine)
[11:00] <superm1> didn't set up VNC? :)
[11:06] <MythbuntuGuest30> no not yet although i really should
[11:06] <MythbuntuGuest30> that seemed to work perfectly, thank you, i never knew about that command
[11:08] <Daviey> superm1: Is this working for you:- http://us-ca.cdimages.mythbuntu.org/
[11:09] <superm1> Site Temporarily Unavailable
[11:09] <superm1> We apologize for the inconvenience. Please contact the webmaster/ tech support immediately to have them rectify this.
[11:09] <superm1> error id: "bad_httpd_conf"
[11:09] <Daviey> yeah same here.. i think it takes some time
[11:10] <Daviey> but that should be working in a few hours..
[11:10] <Daviey> and mythbuntu.net is working now; bendailey is making a mythbuntu.org subdomain for it
[11:11] <superm1> where is that pointing?
[11:12] <Daviey> mythbuntu.net will =  us-mi.cdimages.mythbuntu.org
[11:12] <Daviey> http://us-ca.cdimages.mythbuntu.org/
[11:12] <Daviey>  = my dreamhost
[11:13] <superm1> woah we're suddenly going to have several mirrors :)
[11:13] <Daviey> yep
[11:13] <Daviey> mythbuntu.net has the iso's and is live; but wanted to add the subdomain instead when they are live
[11:14] <Daviey> the 'load' on my dreamhost = load average: 3.39, 3.87, 4.57
[11:15] <Daviey> foxbuntu's should be live 'soon'
[11:15] <Daviey> so that is 4 mirrors
[11:15] <superm1> wonderful
[11:15] <Daviey> why isn't mythbuntu.org a mirror?
[11:15] <superm1> too bad we didn't have this structure ready prior to alpha 4 going live
[11:15] <superm1> jumpkick has limited bandwidth as he uses it for other stuff too
[11:16] <Daviey> yeah.. but i figured this would be ready the following day - and the iso was already getting stale
[11:16] <superm1> so the agreement was just the site, and then keep weekly builds and ISOs elsewhere
[11:16] <Daviey> :)
[11:16] <Daviey> k
[11:16] <Daviey> woo, current load is 5.31
[11:17] <superm1> load on what?
[11:17] <Daviey> my dreamhost
[11:17] <Daviey> $ top
[11:17] <superm1> why are you excited for load on it?
[11:17] <Daviey> not excited, just worried
[11:18] <Daviey> waiting for the abuse email ;)
[11:18] <Daviey> (shared hosting)
[11:18] <superm1> oh i see
[11:23] <Daviey> were you aware of this mirror: http://proyectos.pixelamigo.com/software/Ubuntu/Mythbuntu/7.04/ ?
[11:23] <Daviey> just found it accidently
[11:23] <superm1> Can't say i am
[11:23] <superm1> looks like its a bit of an old mirror though
[11:24] <Daviey> yeah
[11:24] <Daviey> http://proyectos.pixelamigo.com/software/Ubuntu/   Click UbuntuStudio
[11:24] <superm1> hey we made it to phoronix it looks like: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjAyMw
[11:24] <Daviey> Seems that mirror wants to earn money via downloads
[11:25] <superm1> haha
[11:25] <Daviey> A few distro's on that site have that page
[11:25] <Daviey> *cheeky*
[11:26] <Daviey> Is phoronix.com well known?
[11:26] <superm1> i dunno
[11:29] <Daviey> Arg! dreamhost want me to change it from a CNAME to A Record..
[11:29] <Daviey> it shouldn't make a difference!
[11:30] <defendguin> hey half of my mythtv screen is black
[11:30] <defendguin> what was that x command to make it rethink the picture?
[11:31] <defendguin> its like the picture was shifted to the left which left the right hand side of the screen black
[11:41] <Daviey> defendguin: you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg


[05:41] <clintbuntu> Hello, anyone here?
[07:39] <AnnonyMouse> Hi guys. trying to configure a multi-seat X config, & I've an ATI Radeon cast with multiple outputs: VGA, DVI & HDMI. the xorg.conf file requires the definition of the PCI device, but logicall they should all share the PCI address, as they are on the same card. how can I find out what the ID's are for the outputs?
[11:27] <didrocks> vuntz: about the fdo default app spec: for sure (even if I'm not really available as I'm currently in vacation). As I think we advanced nearly to a good solution, I can maybe draft a spec proposal so that they don't have to catch up with the whole thread?
[11:45] <vuntz> didrocks: the thing is that sbrabec already a proposal :-)
[11:45] <vuntz> didrocks: with a first implementation
[11:45] <vuntz> already had
[13:19] <didrocks> vuntz: oh really? sorry. I didn't read your link yet, just opened the tab :)
[13:19] <didrocks> vuntz: I will read it. I hope he wrote a fdo spec before and that everyone agrees on it :)
[13:28] <didrocks> vuntz: ok, I read it now (I was on the train the first time and was afraid of reading a long thread, but he had no reply). So, we tried to make something slightely different. I will make a first draft of a spec and mail it to xdg as well as to sbrabec to avoid using static files. Does it sound correct to you? (/me is happy to go back to the Alpes for holidays ;))
[14:08] <vuntz> didrocks: I have no opinion :-) Just want everybody to talk to everybody
[15:13] <chrisccoulson> didrocks - you should be enjoying your vacation now ;)
[16:52] <asac> ArneGoetje: did you safely get back home?
[16:52] <asac> saw news on the taifun
[17:03] <ArneGoetje> asac: yeah,Taifun was gone when I arrived. :)
[17:03] <asac> ArneGoetje: no delay?
[17:04] <ArneGoetje> asac: 30 mins.
[17:04] <asac> sounds like luck ;)
[17:04] <ArneGoetje> asac: yep
[17:04]  * asac feels better
[17:04] <ArneGoetje> asac: but I almost missed my flight in Paris...
[17:05] <asac> yeah
[17:05] <asac> i almost missed my flight in frankfurt
[17:05] <asac> our start got delayed by one hour
[17:05] <asac> and they dropped us by bus in a different terminal
[17:05] <asac> so i had to go through security etc.
[17:05] <ArneGoetje> asac: had to transfer between terminals and that took quite a while... :(
[17:06] <asac> i think they dropped us there because some with a pretty tight connection flight had to go to that terminal
[17:06]  * asac is a bit angry about that
[17:06] <ArneGoetje> asac: but I got rewarded for my later arrival at the check-in counter in Paris... :) got upgraded into Business class. Yay! :)
[17:07] <asac> ArneGoetje: wow. so next time you know what to do ;)
[17:07] <ArneGoetje> asac: yep :)
[17:07] <asac> 13hours biz class. it cant be much better ;)
[17:07] <asac> i guess you could sleep well then :)
[17:08] <ArneGoetje> asac: he he... well, wasn't able to sleep, due to west to east flight
[17:08] <asac> i guess in biz class you dont even want to be asleep - rather consume the service etc.
[17:09] <asac> nice
[17:09] <ArneGoetje> asac: started in the early morning, so on arrival it was basically dinner time according to Paris time...
[17:09] <asac> yeah
[17:09] <ArneGoetje> asac: he he... yeah, food is much better than economy and a few drinks for free which aren't available in lower classes are also a nice treat. ;)
[17:10] <asac> sounds good
[17:10] <ArneGoetje> asac: yep. but now I'm really tired and going to bed
[17:11] <ArneGoetje> asac: as I skipped the night on the flight, I basically had a very long day. :)
[17:12] <asac> ArneGoetje: sleep well
[17:13] <ArneGoetje> asac: thanks, CU tomorrow
[17:13] <asac> u2
[17:39] <RainCT> Hi
[17:39] <istaz> hi
[17:39] <RainCT> Does someone know what name the file gnome-network-scheme.desktop has on Ubuntu?
[17:40] <istaz> RainCT: what's the content of the file?
[17:40] <istaz> RainCT: http://paste.debian.net/43735 is that this?
[17:40] <istaz> if yes the filename is /usr/share/applications/network-scheme.desktop
[17:41] <RainCT> istaz: yeah I think so, thanks
[20:04] <Laney> chrisccoulson: I can pass you a preview deb on the sly
[20:04] <Laney> ...do you have a PTP camera to test with it?
[20:05] <Laney> I think import functionality might be broken but it could just be my phone
[20:05] <chrisccoulson> Laney - i have a PTP camera, but it doesn't work in PTP mode anyway
[20:05] <chrisccoulson> that's a gphoto bug i think
[20:05] <Laney> oh?
[20:06] <chrisccoulson> my camera's product ID is commented out in gphoto ;)
[20:06] <Laney> http://paste.ubuntu.com/250467/
[20:06] <Laney> oh, that part
[20:08] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i'm not too sure what that error means. i'm not all that familiar with how gphoto works
[20:08] <Laney> me neither
[20:08] <Laney> it could well be my phone
[20:08] <Laney> but testers are hard to come by
[20:08] <Laney> #ubuntu+1 time
[20:09] <chrisccoulson> heh, yeah, i'm sure there will be somebody who has a working PTP device
[20:09] <Laney> gthumb dies when I try to do it...
[20:10] <chrisccoulson> it might be a gphoto issue as opposed to a f-spot one then.
[20:11] <chrisccoulson> are you sure the camera is not being mounted with gvfs? that will stop other applications accessing it using libgphoto
[20:11] <chrisccoulson> although you'll still be able to access it with the gphoto:/// URI
[20:12] <Laney> f-spot unmounts before attempting to use it
[20:12] <chrisccoulson> ah, ok, i didn't realise that
[21:15] <superm1> chrisccoulson, ping, re gsd 2.27.5-0ubuntu1.  why'd you add pulseaudio to recommends?
[21:15] <superm1> looks like it's pulling in pulseaudio for xubuntu and mythbuntu builds unintentionally now..
[21:15] <superm1> (http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/mythbuntu.karmic/desktop)
[21:20] <superm1> hm actually it's only pulled in by mythbuntu builds.  not sure how xubuntu would have blocked it?
[21:41] <chrisccoulson> superm1 - pulseaudio is added as a recommends now because the media-keys plugin uses it for the volume buttons
[21:41] <chrisccoulson> the volume buttons will not work with pulseaudio anymore
[21:41] <chrisccoulson> s/with/without
[21:42] <chrisccoulson> brb, major display corruption here!
[21:44] <chrisccoulson> back now :)


[02:46] <Buki> how can we get the command line syntax of a particular application?
[02:47] <Buki> anybody out here, please help me!!!!!!
[03:01] <persia> support in #ubuntu, and man pages rule.


[09:54] <inetpro> will be interesting to see what happens with ubuntulog here
[11:13] <inetpro> ubuntulog is back for good now?
[11:21] <pavlushka> looks like ubuntulog is tight leaped now
[11:25] <inetpro> still not sure whether it is really working here though
[11:27] <pavlushka> then what explains that only line?
[11:28] <pavlushka> need not to say
[11:28] <pavlushka> mentioned it for the sake of conversation I guess
[11:29] <pavlushka> ok, that was a glitch for a dysfunctioning bot
[11:30] <pavlushka> seems like an explanation :p
[12:33] <inetpro> pavlushka: it's working now
[12:41] <inetpro> pavlushka: wb, the bot is working now
[12:41] <pavlushka> inetpro: was it you?
[12:42] <inetpro> no
[12:42]  * inetpro guessing that WrathOfAchilles might have had something to do with it
[12:43] <inetpro> pavlushka: is it working on #ubuntu-bd as well?
[12:48] <pavlushka> can't tell yet
[12:53] <inetpro> well, do you have it in the channel?
[12:54]  * inetpro took a quick peak
[12:54] <inetpro> and the answer is, yes
[12:54] <pavlushka> hmm
[12:54] <pavlushka> inetpro: are you alright?
[12:54] <inetpro> sorry, guess I'm just a bit bored today
[12:55] <pavlushka> inetpro: okay
[12:57] <pavlushka> inetpro: seen for the first time or noticed, Founder    : hibana, superfly
[12:57] <pavlushka> with two founders for one channel
[12:58] <pavlushka> inetpro: how you let that happen! you pressed buttons sharing hands?
[12:59] <inetpro> pavlushka: if not why not?
[13:00] <inetpro> in this time of the rona it's better to ensure continuity
[13:00] <inetpro> at least that is what I was thinking when I set it up
[13:01] <pavlushka> inetpro: I didn't know that was an option
[13:01] <pavlushka> now I know
[13:01] <inetpro> I also didn't know, tried it, and it works
[13:02] <pavlushka> inetpro: like to know about that
[17:00] <inetpro> hi tumbleweed
[17:00] <inetpro> nice to see you here
[17:02] <tumbleweed> o/


[17:31] <Pici> oh, that reminds me I need to go vote after work.
[17:31] <ikonia> ha ha
[18:15]  * genii prepares https://paste.ee/r/UixRO for future use
[21:42] <k1l> HappyHobo> I realize I will be banned and I expect that.  I respect that decision but before I do I want to apologize.
[21:42] <k1l> anyone knows what is going on?
[21:44] <bazhang_> chatelos
[21:44] <k1l> ah
[21:45] <k1l> @comment 72712
[21:45] <bazhang_> not xubuntu
 I need to be banned.
[21:46] <bazhang_> cry for help
[21:47] <k1l> @comment 22888
[21:47] <k1l> was already an issue in 2010
[21:48] <bazhang_> not even asked any questions that I can see
[21:49] <elky> in 2010? they did
[21:50] <elky> also 2010 is like 6 years ago. 2 bans in 6 years is hardly a pattern
[21:59] <hggdh> well, apt and aptitude have different heuristics to resolve dependencies. Which one is better is anyone's guess. But every time I had to rely on aptitude's dependency resolution I got mad.
[21:59] <ikonia> didn't aptitude get pulled as a default install component
[22:00] <ikonia> couldn't handle multi-lib and had some problems with optional dependencies
[22:00] <hggdh> I *think* so. But I still use synaptics, for example
[22:00] <Unit193> hggdh: Perhaps you mean 'pkg:synaptic' and not 'pkg:synaptics'?
[22:01] <Jordan_U> hggdh: You install software using your touchpad drivers?
[22:01] <k1l> yep, aptitude was kicked as installed package due to multiarch issues. but they say they fixed that
[22:01] <hggdh> Unit193: ugh! indeed.. A package installed against a touchpad...
[22:01] <ikonia> I'm sure they have, it was a while ago
[22:02] <hggdh> Jordan_U: not the drivers, the touchpad itself (it is magic)
[22:03] <bazhang> I wonder if #ubuntu is the best place for the extended merits discussion
[22:06] <hggdh> bazhang: it borders the opinion range, so it is probably more indicated to -offtopic or -discuss
[22:07] <bazhang> hggdh, agreed, but happyhobo has been asked to stop chatting and insists its part of support
[22:08] <bazhang> perhaps a decade ago
[22:14] <hggdh> oh tempora, oh mores
[22:15] <bazhang> moderatin is hurtin the communiteh!
[22:15] <hggdh> mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa!
[22:16] <bazhang> you had me at mea
[22:16] <hggdh> heh
[22:16] <hggdh> translation (a very free one): my bad, my bad, really my bad
[22:17] <bazhang> yep latin


[00:28] <raven> hello I am new to ubuntu studio and I am trying to get things set up correctly
[00:28] <zequence> raven: What are you wanting to set up?
[00:29] <raven> using jack and patchage along with idjc  none of the pulse audio jack modules are showing in patchage and I need to get them listed somehow
[00:30] <zequence> raven: That's cause patchage does not start jackdbus by default (think)
[00:30] <zequence> raven: You can check by doing, in a terminal: ps -eo comm | grep jack
[00:31] <zequence> raven: It is possible to start the jack sink and source modules for pulseaudio manually, but they won't start automatically unless you start jackdbus
[00:32] <zequence> raven: you can also start jackdbus manually, before starting patchage
[00:32] <zequence> starting jackdbus manually: jack_control start
[00:32] <raven> the list that came up from console is:  jackd
[00:32] <raven> qjackctl
[00:32] <raven> qjackctl.real
[00:32] <raven> jackdbus
[00:32] <zequence> Then you have both of them running, all though, I think jackdbus is probably not processing audio right now
[00:32] <raven> idjc wont run without jackdbus
[00:33] <zequence> Close patchage
[00:33] <raven> ok
[00:33] <zequence> Kill jack, and jackdbus: killall -9 jackd*
[00:34] <raven> ok
[00:34] <zequence> raven: Wait, that won't work
[00:34] <zequence> killall -9 jackd
[00:34] <zequence> Then, killall -9 jackdbus
[00:34] <raven> ok
[00:34] <zequence> raven: You can close qjackctl too, btw
[00:35] <zequence> if you want
[00:35] <raven> i did
[00:35] <zequence> raven: Hopefully the right device is chosen to be used with jack
[00:35] <zequence> raven: Actually, it might be smart to use qjackctl for starting jack
[00:36] <zequence> for this reason
[00:36] <raven> it's set for default which HW0:0
[00:36] <zequence> I usually always set it to use my device by name ID, instead of number ID
[00:36] <zequence> If you have more than once device, there's no garantee that they will boot in the same order
[00:37] <zequence> you can see the name of your card, by doing: cat /proc/asound/cards
[00:37] <zequence> This is the card I use:
[00:37] <zequence> 0 [M66            ]: ICE1712 - M Audio Delta 66 M Audio Delta 66 at 0xd040, irq 21
[00:37] <zequence> The name ID is "M66"
[00:38] <raven> okay so my id is nvidia
[00:38] <zequence> raven: HDMI?
[00:38] <raven> hdmi and analog
[00:38] <zequence> My HDMI doesn't even start with jack
[00:39] <raven> i was worried till i brought up idjc and heard my stream through my speakers
[00:39] <zequence> Anyway, you can write it manually into the "Interface" field in "Setup" of qjackctl
[00:40] <zequence> The relevant config file for jackdbus is in ~/.config/jack/conf.xml
[00:40] <zequence> Mine looks like this
[00:40] <zequence>  <drivers>
[00:40] <zequence>   <driver name="alsa">
[00:40] <zequence>    <option name="device">hw:M66</option>
[00:40] <zequence>    <option name="capture">hw:M66</option>
[00:40] <zequence>    <option name="playback">hw:M66</option>
[00:40] <zequence> qjackctl will write that for you
[00:41] <zequence> those were the relevant lines
[00:41] <zequence> So, either use qjackctl to start jackdbus, or from the commandline (if your config file is right): jack_control start
[00:42] <zequence> let me try patchage with jackdbus..
[00:42] <raven> okay
[00:45] <zequence> raven: Yeah, working
[00:46] <raven> okay
[00:46] <zequence> raven: So, all you need to do is make sure you start jackdbus, not jackd, if you have pulseaudio-module-jack installed, and the module will auto start the jack sink and source
[00:47] <raven> qjackctl starts both jackd and jackdbus
[00:47] <zequence> raven: It will only start one of them
[00:47] <zequence> not both at the same time
[00:48] <raven> how do i have it start jackdbus over jackd
[00:48] <zequence> raven: The setting for that is at: Setup -> Misc -> Enable D-Bus Interface
[00:49] <zequence> But, once you've made the settings you want, with qjackctl, and you are sure they will always work, you can just start it from the terminal with: jack_control start
[00:49] <raven> i had that set already but i still don't get the pulsejack sync and such in patchage
[00:50] <zequence> You could even make your won desktop file, or script, starting patchage by first starting jackdbus
[00:50] <zequence> raven: Worry about making the module start first. Then worry about patchage
[00:50] <zequence> Is pulseaudio-module-jack installed?
[00:51] <zequence> And sometimes, if you've been starting stopping jack for many times, the module may not initialize. Happens to me sometimes
[00:51] <raven> yes i have it installed
[00:51] <zequence> raven: Make sure jackd is not running now
[00:52] <raven> by running the command you gave me earlier?
[00:52] <zequence> raven: You can check if the module is running by doing: pactl list | grep jack
[00:53] <zequence> you should see a bunch of lines about jackdbus detect and things like that
[00:53] <zequence> raven: First, close all applications that you are using for jack.  Confirm that you see the PA sink and source in "Connect"
[00:56] <raven> okay all jack is dead
[00:57] <zequence> If you don't see it, we need to restart pulseaudio
[00:57] <zequence> Just kill it, and it will respawn: pulseaudio -k
[00:57] <zequence> and then, also, restart jack
[00:57] <zequence> ..if needed
[00:58] <raven> brb
[00:59] <raven> back
[01:00] <raven> omg i finally see them thank you
[01:04] <zequence> raven: If you are using "hw:nvidia" as your card ID, you could write a starter script for patchage, like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5700232/
[01:04] <zequence> And, then, if you want, make your patchage desktop file point to the script
[01:04] <raven> okay ty
[01:06] <zequence> np
[01:09] <raven> zequence i did notice i am still missing one thing in my patchage the jack_capture
[01:09] <zequence> raven: hmdi doesn't have capture, as far as I know
[01:09] <zequence> Ah, that's why I can't start it, of course
[01:10] <zequence> I need to specify output only
[01:12] <raven> okay i might be able to do what i need without it
 i am having some problems with my ViewSonic Monitor. it is acting as if there is no input, when it is enabled.
[17:50] <SunStar> are you sure it hasnt died?
[17:50] <TheBingsta> i am sure, it works on my server. (next to the pc)
[17:50] <SunStar> what video ddriver are you using? what graphics chip?
[17:51] <TheBingsta> is there a way of finding out?
[18:05] <SunStar> in terminal type lspci to see what graphics adapter you have, and launcher menu -> system -> Software Updater -> Settings -> Additional Drivers
[18:11] <TheBingsta> 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI BeaverCreek [Radeon HD 6530D]
[18:12] <TheBingsta> recommended video driver
[18:13] <SunStar> more than likly, you need the proprietary AMD driver. you can get it in that Aditional Drivers tab in Software Updater or in the Ubuntu Software Center. Package Name: fglrx
[18:14] <SunStar> or from the AMD website
[18:14] <zequence> I'm not so sure
[18:14] <zequence> AMD free drivers are pretty functional
[18:14] <zequence> And proprietary drivers will probably not work on any release after 12.04 (at least it was so until a few months ago)
[18:15] <SunStar> i know HDMI doesnt work without it
[18:15] <zequence> Really? I was even playing HL2 on free drivers last year
[18:16] <SunStar> well at least on mine, the HDMI doesnt function using x.org driver, you need fglrx
[18:19] <TheBingsta> nope didn't work
[18:19] <TheBingsta> and its not hdmi cable.. VGA
[18:21] <zequence> TheBingsta: Sure you have the right resolution for it?
[18:21] <TheBingsta> yes.
[18:21] <TheBingsta> i have tried lower resolutions as well
[18:22] <DarkEra> TheBingsta, you installed the proprietary drivers?
[18:22] <TheBingsta> yes, still nothing.
[18:23] <SunStar> did you restart?
[18:23] <DarkEra> rebooyed to make them work?
[18:23] <DarkEra> rebooted*
[18:23] <TheBingsta> yes.. works on bios but not ubuntu
[18:23] <TheBingsta> it was a restart after using ArandR that mucked it up.
[18:23] <TheBingsta> let me go for another re-boot.
[18:24] <TheBingsta> brb
[18:34] <TheBingsta> hello
[18:34] <TheBingsta> i got the 2nd monitor working.. however now i can't setup dual screen
[18:47] <zequence> I've personally had more problems with dual monitoring using the proprietary drivers
[18:48] <SunStar> dual monitor always worked well for me untill the radeon HD series
[19:58] <FisherMack> Hey hey hey
[20:17] <TheBingsta> re-installing worked
[20:18] <SunStar> re-installing xubuntu?
[20:18] <SunStar> ubuntu studio*
[20:28] <TheBingsta> yer.
[20:37] <FisherMack> Anyone know of a good soundboard app? I searched USC but didn't find anything
[21:11] <Len-nb> FisherMack, I am not sure what a "soundboard" is. Can you describe it?
[21:47] <c4rt0m4nci3n> ola
[21:58] <SunStar> a sub-straight with buttons. each button plays a sound
[21:58] <SunStar> great for using celebrity voices to make prank phone calls
[22:09] <len-1304> SunStar, That sounds like a sampler to me. Specimen does that. It is possible to have different samples for each key. vkeyb would map the keys to the text kb.
[22:10] <len-1304> That is maybe not the most effective way of doing it though.


[00:27] <cyberanger> minasota: trusting the key I'd skip (at first at least) it'd lessen the noise gpg puts out but really you only care about good signature.
[00:28] <cyberanger> if you truly trust the key (have a good trust path to it) maybe then, but I never trust a key I've not seen at a keysigning party (with one execption)
[00:28] <Unit193> You don't trust my key? :'(
[02:06] <cyberanger> Unit193: I don't think I've set trust for your key automatically
[02:06] <Unit193> cyberanger: Hah, kidding. ;)
[02:19] <cyberanger> I know


[02:33] <xu-irc41w> ok my xubuntu laptop has gone totally haywire
[02:33] <xu-irc41w> it doesn't retain any changes made to the desktop background or workspaces
[02:33] <xu-irc41w> firefox is totally garbled
[02:34] <xu-irc41w> it keeps resetting my theme to the default from the config that i copied from another user directory
[02:34] <xu-irc41w> i also can't change resolution without getting a black screen
[02:35] <xu-irc41w> what happened was i imaged this install from another disk
[02:35] <xu-irc41w> at first it worked fine
[02:35] <xu-irc41w> but then i updated it
[02:36] <xu-irc41w> looks like a permission issue
[02:36] <xu-irc41w> i started firefox through the terminal and it says the config directory is denying access
[02:42] <xu-irc41w> can someone help?  i really don't want to have to do a reinstall
[03:01] <xu-irc41w> i'm guessing that when i imaged the disk using the live usb it didn't set the ownership properly
[03:02] <xu-irc41w> what do i do?
[11:17] <xubu23> is thsi mirc?
[16:14] <roman> HELLO
[23:33] <dylan_> yo