[04:33] <stalefries> bruenig, ok
[04:33] <stalefries> Falstius: hmm
[04:33] <bruenig> stalefries, not intending to be rude or anything. I had to be told the same thing
[04:34] <bhudda> Can someone tell me what this error means? : glGo: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[04:34] <stalefries> bruenig: I had pointed Ahab out to something he didn't want, I was just picking up where we left off
[04:34] <abarbaccia> hey - im using ubuntu edgy and whenever i want to type a '  or " i have to hit space after or else some weird character comes out -- how cna i fix that
[04:35] <bruenig> bhudda, try sudo apt-get install libsdl-image1.2
[04:35] <stalefries> bruenig: rather, I had offered to help before I knew the question: I got confused between 2 people
[04:35] <slavik> I need the valgrind-dev library ...
[04:35] <bruenig> stalefries, ah, I got you. I didn't realize that there had already been dialog. I thought that was his initial question. My fault.
[04:36] <stalefries> abarbaccia: sounds like you have something turned on in keyboard prefs. Check System>Preferences>Keyboard
[04:36] <klick_> Hey all, can anyone help me get my blue tooth device recognized? when i run hcitool dev it shows nothing.  I have an intergrated device on my x41 tablet, im not even sure what the device is called
[04:36] <stalefries> bruenig: it's all good, I should have been rebuked for that before anyway
[04:36] <bruenig> !bluetooth
[04:36] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[04:36] <bhudda> bruening I did that, and it gives me the same mesage...
[04:36] <jerp> abarbaccia, fool around with your keyboard mapping in the system/prefs
[04:36] <bruenig> bhudda, did it install anything?
[04:36] <slavik> !valgrind
[04:36] <bhudda> bruening no, it says that I have the current version already
[04:36] <ubotu> valgrind: A memory debugger and profiler. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.2.0-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 13766 kB, installed size 33412 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 powerpc)
[04:37] <slavik> !valgrind-dev
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about valgrind-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <Ahab> If anyone is curious to why I was having my problem: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/70114
[04:37] <bruenig> bhudda, are you on 64 bit?
[04:37] <bhudda> bruening Yes I am.
[04:38] <bhudda> erg
[04:38] <bhudda> bruenig
[04:38] <bhudda> lol
[04:38] <stalefries> Ahab: is that a bug report about it or what happened to you?
[04:38] <Syco54645> where can i find my bookmarks for firefox?
[04:38] <Ahab> about it: It was a packaging issues
[04:38] <Syco54645> like the actual files that is
[04:38] <klick_> bruenig, i followed that, but i dont see my device listed when i /etc/init.d/bluetooth start
[04:38] <stalefries> Syco54645: ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/bookmarks.html
[04:38] <bruenig> Syco54645, ~/.mozilla/********.default/bookmarks.html
[04:39] <stalefries> I think
[04:39] <Syco54645> ok
[04:39] <Syco54645> i will check there
[04:39] <bruenig> stalefries is right, I missed the firefox
[04:39] <jerp> syco, save them somewhere you decide using the manager
[04:39] <bruenig> klick_, I don't have any bluetooth devices. I just knew that !bluetooth existed
[04:39] <jerp> use "Organize Bookmarks" there in the bookmarks menu in firefox
[04:40] <Syco54645> ummm i have 2 different default forlders
[04:40] <klick_> ohh ok, well can anyone else help me get my x41 integrated bluetooth device to be recognised?
[04:40] <stalefries> Syco54645: hmm. Check both
[04:41] <Syco54645> stalefries: well crap, they both have the bookmarks file.  basically what i am supposed to do is write a program for class that will zip up the bookmarks then email them to myself.  i guess i will just email the entire .default folders zipped
[04:42] <stalefries> Syco: check which one has your bookmarks
[04:42] <Syco54645> i could really care less if it does just the bookmarks, and i am sure that he doesnt give a "crap"(as he would put it) either
[04:42] <bruenig> Syco54645, open the bookmarks.html in firefox and see if it has your bookmarks
[04:42] <stalefries> open it, and see if it has the ones you want
[04:42] <bruenig> it would be really easy to write a bash script for that
[04:42] <Syco54645> stalefries and bruenig, he doesnt care that much, he just wants to teach the class that you can do all of this stuff using functions built into a language
[04:43] <stalefries> the whole .default folder is pretty big
[04:43] <Syco54645> bruenig: that is what i said i would do, but he absolutely hates perl, so i usually use perl just to get on him
[04:43] <stalefries> all your extensions, etc
[04:43] <Syco54645> stalefries: that is true, i guess i will make it just send that one file then
[04:44] <bruenig> yeah, at least clear the cache if you are going to do that, don't want to get caught with anything um, untoward
[04:44] <Syco54645> bruenig: eh i dont need to mail it to him, just hand him the source for it
[04:44] <bruenig> ah
[04:45] <stalefries> that's easier
[04:45] <bhudda> bruenig any idea what I should do?
[04:45] <bruenig> if you could just send the whole directory. You should have written a script that zips up all of / and sends it to you. That would be the same thing essentially
[04:45] <bruenig> bhudda, what are you trying to open. You obviously have the wrong libraries
[04:46] <Syco54645> bruenig: this is a small thing compared to what else he had us do, i had to write a web server and implement cgi (at least a crappy form where you called the file.exe), servlets (again a crappy for) and jsp (again with a crappy form, but it had to work with the servlets implementation)... all of this needed to be done in java, and i dont know java at all, nor do i now.  it is done too
[04:46] <stalefries> wow
[04:46] <Syco54645> bruenig: i should do that, he would find that funny
[04:46] <stalefries> well done
[04:46] <bhudda> bruenig http://panda-igs.joyjoy.net/English/glgo/download.html this Go client...
[04:47] <khermans_> oohh got Sun JVM to segfault!
[04:48] <stalefries> hey, now that it's GPL you can go and fix it1
[04:48] <stalefries> *it!
[04:48] <khermans_> wheres the source?
[04:48] <Lam_> what do browseable, public, and available mean (samba)?
[04:48] <bruenig> bhudda, I haven't too much experience hacking around 64 bit. Once I realized what a headache it could be, I switched to 32 bit. I assume you would need to get the 32 bit form of that dependency and then try to direct it to use that
[04:49] <stalefries> khermans_, dunno
[04:49] <stalefries> khermans_, I just know that it _is_ GPL
[04:49] <bhudda> how do you direct it  bruenig? I think that is the last step I have
[04:49] <bruenig> bhudda, but if it has problems with that, it will probably have problems elsewhere too. The easiest way may be to wine the windows version
[04:49] <khermans_> stalefries, https://openjdk.dev.java.net/source/browse/openjdk/
[04:49] <stalefries> aha!
[04:51] <stalefries> Is there a way where I can block those so-and-so got on/off messages?
[04:51] <bruenig> bhudda, I can't think of a way to do it from my limited knowledge of doing it without breaking other things. You could theoretically replace it with the 32 bit version of that libsdl or whatever it is called, but that would break other things that use it, so I can't think of a full proof way to do it. symlinks perhaps, but I would think that would pose the same problem
[04:51] <Klick> Can anyone here help me get my bluetooth device recognised via hcitool scan I have an integrated device in my intel x41
[04:51] <sinisterguy> has anyone had any success with the ubuntu package for the candido gtk engine on edgy?
[04:51] <Jordan_U> To anyone that was helping me yesterday, I would like to say we actually found a backup of our NT4 server stable enough to run mySQL's migration tools, so hopefully they will be upgrading to debian instead of 2003 server :)
[04:52] <Pelo> way to go Jordan_U
[04:53] <immrtl> how do i tell if a module was built into kernel or built as an LKM?
[04:53] <Jordan_U> Pelo: Wasn't me, I am just trying to help on the migration end, I know nothing about NT4 :)
[04:53] <ChadMC> Hey, does anyone know how to fix the garbled Virtual Terminals (tty's) problem?
[04:53] <Jordan_U> ChadMC: I know something to try.
[04:53] <bhudda> blast, that sucks...
[04:53] <ChadMC> thanks. I've tried a few things
[04:53] <bhudda> Thanks for the help
[04:53] <Pelo> Jordan_U,  I don'T know any of that stuff either,  but way to stick it to M$
[04:54] <stalefries> I need help setting my locale (translations, etc) to en-us, as opposed to en-uk
[04:54] <energon> hey know
[04:54] <Jordan_U> ChadMC: Edgy upsplash screwed up my tty's, disabling upsplash fixed it.
[04:54] <energon> now*
[04:54] <energon> i <3 windows for gaming
[04:54] <energon> =\
[04:54] <Pelo> stalefries,  system > admin > language support
[04:54] <immrtl> so does lsmod list only mods that have been built into kernel? or all modules loaded period?
[04:54] <ChadMC> Jordan_U: =( I've tried disabling that. (took off splash from grub/menu.lst and rebooted) it didn't fix the problem.
[04:55] <Klick> can anyone here send me there hci.conf and rfcomm.conf file?
[04:55] <stalefries> Pelo: thank you! So much!
[04:55] <energon> Klick: google.com parent directory hci.conf
[04:55] <joeyk_>  lsmod  program to show the status of modules in the Linux Kernel
[04:55] <yangsup> yang@super:~$ glxgears
[04:55] <yangsup> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x46
[04:55] <energon> Klick: google.com parent directory rfcomm.conf
[04:56] <joeyk_> lsmod  is  a  trivial  program which nicely formats the contents of the
[04:56] <joeyk_>        /proc/modules, showing what kernel modules are currently loaded.
[04:56] <yangsup> my vediocard is km400IGP
[04:56] <stalefries> Pelo: I've set that before, but it's still en-uk. It doesn't seem to apply to pre-existing accounts
[04:57] <Pelo> stalefries,  is the language available ?
[04:57] <stalefries> yes
[04:57] <stalefries> I've set it to en-us
[04:57] <Pelo> hmmm
[04:57] <Malte> hi there ... can someone confirm that one server is down: de.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)?
[04:58] <stalefries> Malte: checking now on my end
[04:58] <Pelo> stalefries,  and if you reboot , it reverts to en-uk or does it stick to en-us ?
[04:58] <stalefries> Pelo: it hasn't changed yet, and it's been like this a while
[04:58] <immrtl> joeyk_: , nice of you, but u still haven't answered my ?, i know how to man lsmod =)
[04:58] <stalefries> Malte: I can open it
[04:58] <bruenig> Malte, it takes me to the index
[04:59] <Malte> mm ... kk ... workin that out then ...
[04:59] <joeyk_> well.. i think man lsmod answers your questions right on
[04:59] <stalefries> Malte: but it's a tad slow
[04:59] <Pelo> stalefries,   try searching the forum for changing language
[04:59] <Malte> okay ..
[04:59] <Klick> hey guys, my bluetooth config files got deleted, and synaptic erros out trying to reinstall the package.. any ideas how i can force it to reinstall?
[04:59] <kitche> immrtl: it onyl shows modules not the ones that are built into the kernel
[04:59] <ChadMC> Anyone else have any suggestions to fix garbled virtual terminals (tty's) ?
[04:59] <stalefries> Pelo: ok, I should've thought of that
[04:59] <stalefries> Pelo: it's always what I suggest ;)
[04:59] <Pelo> Klick, completely remove it and then intall it
[04:59] <immrtl> kitche: thanks, how do i find out what is built in?
[05:00] <Klick> pelo it errors when i try to complelty remove it
[05:00] <Pelo> klick, lovely
[05:00] <kitche> immrtl: the onyl way to know that is to look at the config file that was used to build the kernel really
[05:00] <macogw> Hey uh, when I right-click and "Connection Information" on network manager applet, it says Error displaying connection information:
[05:00] <macogw> Could not find some required resources (the glade file)!  Anyone know what that means/how to fix it?
[05:00] <Klick> "E: bluemon:subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[05:01] <Pupeno> !mp3
[05:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:01] <Klick> any clue what that means
[05:01] <immrtl> so installing edgy from livecd would have used the kernel.*.*-generic.conf file correct?
[05:01] <kitche> immrtl: it's usually named config-<version>
[05:01] <Pelo> Klick,  try finding the sourcecode for it and compile it manualy
[05:02] <immrtl> hrm
[05:02] <Pelo> Klick,  opefully that should over-write it
[05:02] <kitche> immrtl: it might be in /boot
[05:02] <stalefries> Pelo: this comment helped: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1774211&postcount=2
[05:02] <Pelo> stalefries,  goog going
[05:03] <Pelo> good going
[05:03] <stalefries> Pelo: it's "export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8", fyi
[05:03] <immrtl> ah, found it, /boot/config-*.*-generic
[05:04] <Pelo> stalefries, my system is in canadian french,  and it is working ok , but thanks anyway
[05:04] <regeya_> !edgy
[05:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[05:04] <stalefries> Pelo: right, just so you know what it was.
[05:04] <regeya_> ubotu: no, edgy is the 'testing' release of Ubuntu
[05:05] <stalefries> someone should revert what regeya did
[05:06] <stalefries> ubotu: no, edgy is Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[05:06] <stalefries> !edgy
[05:06] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[05:06] <kitche> regeya: it's the latest release
[05:06] <stalefries> kitche, I just fixed it
[05:06] <stalefries> first time ubotu-submitter :)
[05:07] <stalefries> also, regeya, left
[05:10] <linuxfanstar> hey
[05:10] <linuxfanstar> does anyone know anything about ENVY
[05:10] <slavik> Oh man ... Beryl is awesome
[05:10] <linuxfanstar> supposedly it will isntall nvidia drivers automatically
[05:10] <linuxfanstar> beryl is awesome
[05:10] <kitche> linuxfanstar: just install nvidia-glx
[05:11] <linuxfanstar> ya for some reason it wasnt working in edgy
[05:11] <linuxfanstar> neither would the legacy one
[05:11] <immrtl> kitche: can u clarify one last thing? in my xorg.conf it says for my gfx card im using driver ati, but lsmod shows radeon and drm as the running mods
[05:12] <kitche> immrtl: ati is a wrapper to the open source version of radeon drivers it picks the best driver for your card and drm is needed to run dri
[05:12] <Lam_> is it spelled officially as Xine or xine?
[05:12] <kitche> !xine|Lam_
[05:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <bruenig> *nix generally prefers lowercase
[05:13] <Lam_> ok thanks
[05:13] <linuxfanstar> i have an nvidia fx5200
[05:13] <bruenig> althought Thunar for some reason refuses to be lowercase, arrogant file manager
[05:13] <Bilange> quickie: where can I change Ubnutu's language? For example: I currently have installed ubuntu in french, and want to see everything in engish instead. I suppose its in the init scripts, but where?
[05:14] <slavik> I need the valgrind debugger dev package, is that just the source code?
[05:14] <yangsup> g: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x46
[05:14] <stalefries> Bilange: I just figured this out 2 minutes ago
[05:15] <stalefries> Bilange: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1774211&postcount=2
[05:15] <stalefries> that should fix you up
[05:15] <stalefries> !locale|stalefries
[05:15] <ubotu> stalefries: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[05:15] <Bilange> yeah, I was scrolling up
[05:15] <Bilange> thanks, sorry for the repeating :)
[05:16] <immrtl> kitche: i want to install the closed proprietary ati drivers but it recommends uninstalling current ones, can i just keep the current ones but "disable" them
[05:17] <kitche> immrtl: you installing from apt?
[05:17] <immrtl> no
[05:17] <immrtl> should I?
[05:17] <Evan_> I'm running ubuntu live cd and i'm trying to mount my linux partition, can someone guide me?
[05:17] <stalefries> Bilange, that should work, but also look at this:
[05:17] <kitche> immrtl: well when you change your xorg.conf to fglrx the other ones will be disabled
[05:17] <stalefries> !locale\Bilange
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about locale\Bilange - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <stalefries> !locale|Bilange
[05:17] <ubotu> Bilange: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[05:17] <bruenig> Evan_, open the terminal, and first make the directory that you intend to mount the partition in, mkdir whatever
[05:18] <Bilange> im already on this page :)
[05:18] <immrtl> Evan_: mount /dev/hda* /mnt/<mkdir beforehand>
[05:18] <bruenig> immrtl, could be sda
[05:18] <bruenig> doesn't necessary have to /mnt
[05:18] <immrtl> ok but if hes having trouble doing this its obvious we dont need to get technical
[05:19] <immrtl> thx for the heads up tho
[05:19] <bruenig> immrtl, if he is having trouble, your snippet will make no sense
[05:19] <bruenig> and if he had sda, it would especially be troublesome
[05:19] <immrtl> ? k then
[05:21] <immrtl> but should i install the ati drivers from apt or just d/l them?
[05:21] <bruenig> !nv
[05:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:21] <immrtl> i've read it, im asking is it better to install the bin from ati site or use apt-get
[05:22] <bruenig> if they are the same, apt-get, if the sites is better then you have to weigh the benefits of having it installed with apt or having to maintain it manually
[05:23] <immrtl> shrug, thing is i dont know apt too well
[05:23] <Evan_> thanks guys that was simple!
[05:23] <bruenig> apt is more convenient than manual maintain, makes sure the whole system is coherent but whatever
[05:23] <immrtl> i know the basic get commands and some options but barely scratched surface
[05:24] <immrtl> alright ill try it, thx
[05:28] <Evan_> how can i write to the mounted partition?
[05:28] <AdamKili> mpg321 has a mess up i think. on some mp3s it plays 00:00 to 00:30, restarts then plays seconds 00:00 to 00:35 seconds, restarts and plays 00:00 to 00:40, etc.           Is it supposed to only provide a preview? and if it is, why does it keep repeating, playing a little further into the song each time? it seems like if it's only supposed to preview, it would play the first 30 seconds once. Is there a way to make it play the whole thing?
[05:29] <ReWT_AxS> how do i check to see who is all on the network im on
[05:29] <ReWT_AxS> ?
[05:29] <ReWT_AxS> in terminal
[05:30] <confusco> what you mean
[05:30] <ReWT_AxS> im on wired network
[05:30] <ReWT_AxS> i wanna know who all is on it right now
[05:30] <joeyk_> get an ip scanner
[05:30] <ReWT_AxS> no way to do it in terminal/
[05:30] <ReWT_AxS> ?
[05:31] <stalefries> reWT_AxS: just look at your router's webpage
[05:31] <J-_> is there a program that I can use like Guitar Pro for ubuntu?
[05:31] <power-lt> how can i check what driver my wireless card are using ?
[05:31] <stalefries> no way to do it in the termina;
[05:31] <ReWT_AxS> k
[05:31] <ReWT_AxS> thanks
[05:31] <joeyk_> hgahaha
[05:31] <NineTeen67Comet> whelp .. I updated a bunch of stuff (gstreamer included) and now my sound is TU .. (sound blaster live card .. emu10k1) .. any Ideas on where to start looking?
[05:31] <avital14> Hey is there where one goes for ubuntu help?
[05:31] <NineTeen67Comet> avital14: this is the place .. or the forums ..
[05:32] <blacknine> anyone alie in here?
[05:32] <avital14> INineTeen67Comet: am trying to use my ATI card under the open source driver and i cannot get my resolution set off of 640X Freaking huge!
[05:32] <NineTeen67Comet> blacknine: think just us askers are in here ..
[05:33] <blacknine> well i cant change my screen res in Kubuntu
[05:33] <avital14> I have tried editing the xorg,conf file and removing all but the 1280X1024
[05:33] <NineTeen67Comet> avital14: If it is a new'er card you'll have to follow an install for a current ATI driver, if it's older (mine WAS a 9200se then you can use the ati or radion drivers ..
[05:34] <avital14> still no success
[05:34] <NineTeen67Comet> avital14: I'm not good at ati stuff (they aren't always too nice to Linux folk) ..
[05:34] <avital14> I have a 9250 pro PCI
[05:34] <avital14> and i tried the proprietary drivers.. and well my DVI doesn't work
[05:35] <NineTeen67Comet> avital14: then you should be okay with the old open source drivers .. lemme see if I can find the how-to on that ..
[05:35] <stalefries> !ati
[05:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:36] <avital14> I'm about to get a new Card on Newegg and ebay this ATI pos....
[05:36] <stalefries> wait, that won't help
[05:36] <NineTeen67Comet> avital14: this link is my stand handy dandy standby when I install a new Ubuntu ..http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[05:36] <stalefries> good
[05:36] <AdamKili> in Nautilus, when I pause on a .mp3 file, mpg321 starts to play it, but on most of the .mp3s it skips and repeats like a scratched CD, but when i run mpg321 on the same file in the terminal, there's no problem at all. is there a way to fix this?
[05:36] <stalefries> avital14, go for nvidia if you want something fast that'll work with  linux
[05:36] <stalefries> AdamKili: it's only meant to do a preview in Nautilus
[05:37] <confusco> why's that?
[05:37] <stalefries> so you can tell what the file is
[05:37] <avital14> yah
[05:37] <stalefries> Wow, I just closed firefox and regained HALF of my RAM
[05:37] <avital14> i'm gonna build a new system with some x-mas money... Nvidia is what i am looking at
[05:37] <avital14> so you have any suggestions?
[05:38] <MicrosoftSpy> Anyone got the latest Cedega ?
[05:38] <stalefries> avitalia: nvidia's fine, beyond that I have no idea, I'm not a hardware man
[05:38] <AdamKili> stalefries: is there a way to make it play the whole thing? sometimes it's a lot more intuitive to browse by folder playing a song here and there, without having to wait for Amarok or Rythmbox to load each time
[05:38] <stalefries> AdamKili: no idea
[05:39] <stalefries> I would just forget it and load some mp3 player
[05:39] <stalefries> you may try something like XMMS, it's a little more lightweight
[05:39] <Darok> could anyone help me figure out why my video doesnt start
[05:39] <blacknine> where is xorg.conf?
[05:39] <Shadow_mil> I have a cam, that supports video output, which connects to my  USB
[05:39] <Evan_> I mounted hda1 but I cannot write to it, help please :D
[05:39] <Darok> Im doing a bare installation
[05:39] <Darok> im on CLI
[05:39] <stalefries> /etc/X11/xorg.conf I think
[05:39] <Shadow_mil> how can I use that as my video input?
[05:40] <JoshJ> that's it, yes
[05:40] <Darok> ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it doesnt start
[05:40] <Darok> im running a 865G intel VGA chip
[05:40] <cmweb> Can anyone help me install java
[05:40] <Darok> whats the equiv on the dpkg screen
[05:40] <stalefries> !java|cmweb
[05:40] <ubotu> cmweb: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:40] <Darok> !intel
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <power-lt> when i run wpa_supplicant -ira0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w i get "Operation not supported" ,what can be wrong ?
[05:41] <Darok> !865
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 865 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <Darok> mm
[05:41] <cmweb> !routers
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about routers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <stalefries> cmweb: why routers?
[05:42] <snide> almost midnight, ladies and gentlemen
[05:42] <snide> i love you linuxians
[05:42] <snide> :P
[05:43] <JoshJ> it's GNU/linuxians >:[
[05:43] <cmweb> Hu oh sorry, i need help on taht also but it dont got it
[05:43] <snide> :( sorry lol
[05:43] <JoshJ> :P
[05:43] <stalefries> Midnight where? Europe?
[05:43] <snide> i said almost.. in canada
[05:44] <stalefries> oh
[05:44] <snide> ontario - est time
[05:44] <cmweb> Can any one help me fix 'sun-java5-bin' is not available in any software channel
[05:44] <stalefries> almost 9 here. ONO!
[05:44] <snide> gmt - minus 5 hrs
[05:44] <JoshJ> !java
[05:44] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:44] <stalefries> !Multivers|cmweb
[05:44] <cmweb> Im their but
[05:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Multivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:44] <stalefries> !Multiverse|cmweb
[05:44] <ubotu> cmweb: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:44] <joeyk_> nmap is another good ap but its for more port scans
[05:44] <snowshoefox> !debian
[05:44] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded". To see more details on the relationship, see: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[05:44] <CorpseFeeder> I currently use something called "bonjour" to share printers on MacOS X with Windows computers on the network. Is it conceivable that I might be able to use bonjour in Ubuntu to share files between Ubuntu and MacOS X and Ubuntu and Windows?
[05:44] <snowshoefox> !debian/rules
[05:44] <cmweb> ok dont wear the bot down
[05:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about debian/rules - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:44] <snowshoefox> where are the debian/rules located?
[05:45] <cmweb> !easysource
[05:45] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:45] <snide> i know that each distro is pretty different and has pros/cons but id like to hear ur perference .. which distro do you guys like the most?
[05:45] <JoshJ> ...
[05:45] <stalefries> snide: Ubuntu, duh! :)
[05:45] <JoshJ> if you want "real" answers to that ask in a "neutral" channel like ##linux
[05:45] <JoshJ> (not sure they're "neutral" but well...)
[05:45] <carpediem> uh, you came to #ubuntu to ask us our distro of choice?  Nice poll tainting.
[05:45] <snide> :P lol
[05:45] <Lam_> !samba
[05:45] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:46] <sagemassa> heya #ubuntu
[05:46] <stalefries> !bonjour|CorpseFeeder
[05:46] <joeyk_> !ldap
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bonjour - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ldap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <stalefries> ubotu, you have failed us!
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you have failed us! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <cmweb> !edit source file
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edit source file - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <snowshoefox> the Kernelbuild tutorial is not very comprehensive for ubuntu
[05:46] <cmweb> anyone
[05:46] <sagemassa> !swat
[05:46] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:46] <cmweb> ?
[05:46] <sagemassa> meh
[05:46] <stalefries> ubotu, you have failed us is I'm so sorry
[05:46] <snowshoefox> !kernel
[05:46] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:47] <snide> i was surprised to find that the ubuntu made printing / internet / etc worked without ever having me to dl the necessirly files, etc compile and install the other distros didnt auto like this one does
[05:47] <cmweb> !wine
[05:47] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:47] <stalefries> !you have failed us
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you have failed us - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <stalefries> hmm
[05:47] <cmweb> !hack
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <sagemassa> omg bot spam
[05:47] <snide> lol
[05:47] <stalefries> ubotu, "you have failed us" is "I'm so sorry"
[05:47] <JoshJ> snide: i was fairly amazed by how easy it was to "install" my HP Deskjet 2847
[05:47] <blacknine> i cant edit xorg.conf....
[05:47] <cmweb> How do i edit the sources list
[05:47] <stalefries> Don't I know it
[05:47] <JoshJ> *3847
[05:47] <snide> yeah, my psc 2110 all in one worked just fine
[05:47] <JoshJ> cmweb: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:47] <stalefries> blacknine: you need root privileges for that
[05:47] <blacknine> i have root
[05:47] <snide> because of the cup service, it somehow communicated with it just fine
[05:48] <stalefries> !sudo|blacknine
[05:48] <ubotu> blacknine: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:48] <snide> with um hpjs driver
[05:48] <sagemassa> then you can doo it blacknine
[05:48] <JoshJ> that said, my parents' lexmark... XJ73? (i think?) didn't work :(
[05:48] <JoshJ> the scanner did, printer wouldn't
[05:48] <stalefries> I think Epson and Lexmark are generally the worst on Linux
[05:48] <snowshoefox> How come the kernel docs are so sparse for Ubuntu?
[05:48] <snide> eehh, yea check the list of supported products under either cup or hpjs driver
[05:48] <snide> google it
[05:49] <sky123> Has anyone used communigate? and set it all up on ubuntu?
[05:49] <cmweb> !ubuntu
[05:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[05:49] <stalefries> snowshoefox: Check the Faqs, Howtos, tips and tricks section on ubuntuforums.org It's pretty full with kernel howto's
[05:49] <cmweb> tryin to get definition
[05:49] <snowshoefox> k, i'll check it out stalefries, thx
[05:49] <stalefries> welcome
[05:49] <sagemassa> anyone ever seen a box loose its inet static and pull a dhcp addy ?
[05:50] <Shadow_mil> Hey... how do I get my web cam to work?
[05:50] <stalefries> !webcam
[05:50] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:50] <snide> hm the bot can be useful sometime
[05:50] <stalefries> very useful
[05:50] <sagemassa> but if i run a networking restart it re-establishes static?
[05:50] <Evan_> !mount
[05:50] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:50] <gmitchel> !stupid freakin AC97 sound
[05:50] <stalefries> I didn't even know it knew about webcam
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stupid freakin AC97 sound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:50] <snide> lol
[05:50] <Zububwa> !wireless router
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireless router - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <stalefries> gmitchel; ubotu is not omnipotent
[05:51] <snide> !wireless
[05:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:51] <blacknine> i still cant seem to edit the xorg.conf file....it says i dont have privliages, while i do
[05:51] <gmitchel> i realize this
[05:51] <sagemassa> blacknine are you acting as su now?
[05:51] <snide> blacknine u gotta type in your root password
[05:51] <cmweb> YAY, its installing java
[05:51] <snide> the one you created during installation
[05:51] <stalefries> blacknine: try sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:51] <stalefries> cmweb, congrats
[05:52] <cmweb> ljl, are you on
[05:52] <gmitchel> does anyone have the atiixp sound drivers sucessfully working in Dapper?
[05:52] <blacknine> gedit?
[05:52] <cmweb> stalefries, :D
[05:52] <stalefries> blacknine: text editor for gnome
[05:52] <cmweb> gmitchel mine camo on the platform installed
[05:52] <stalefries> you could also use nano
[05:52] <stalefries> which is command-line based
[05:53] <blacknine> oh, im using kde(nubuntu), that channel is slower with people so i figure ill ask here
[05:53] <gmitchel> cmweb: did you have to do anything special to get sound working? mine seems to have the drivers installed correctly but I can't get it to play any sound
[05:53] <Shadow_mil> stalefries: ok my web cam is weird.  Its a digital cam that can output video
[05:54] <sky123> Anyone using CommunigatePro?
[05:54] <stalefries> gmitchel: that sounds like a ad case of muted sound to me :)
[05:54] <cmweb> gmitchel, mine were working on the live disk, i did nothing to them they just work
[05:54] <stalefries> Shadow_mil: I have no idea about webcams
[05:54] <gmitchel> cmweb: haha, i only wish
[05:54] <stalefries> Shadow_mil: never used one ever
[05:55] <gmitchel> cmweb: tried alsamixer like a thousand times
[05:55] <docgnome> is anyone else having problems with ipkungfu on edgy? After installing it it spits back a bunch of error messages. the first two are nearly the same.... "/usr/sbin/ipkungfu: 6: source: not found"
[05:55] <Evan_> I cannot write to my linux partition, ahhhhh
[05:55] <Shadow_mil> stalefries: I can choose from NTSC or PAL output
[05:55] <cmweb> althogh, you chould chek the hardware
[05:55] <cmweb> im using Rythmbox
[05:55] <mlots> Why does sound work under 2.4 and not 2.6? The sound modules apear to load. What should I be looking for? alsaplayer doesn't run, dsp seems to be missing, udev is installed...
[05:56] <gmitchel> cmweb: do you know what chipset your sound has?
[05:56] <stalefries> Shadow_mil: once again, I have no idea. I would suggeset googling your webcam's model + ubuntu or linux
[05:56] <bigfuzzyjesus> so
[05:56] <docgnome> the file it is trying to source at that line is /etc/ipkungfu/pre.conf which is there...
[05:56] <stalefries> docgnome: have you checked line 6?
[05:57] <docgnome> stalefries: aye. it is the end of an if statement which after the conditional, is doing 'source /etc/ipkungfu/pre.conf'
[05:57] <jedilj> can someone tell me how to intall a downloaded program
[05:57] <docgnome> sans quotes
[05:57] <cmweb> OML i thought we were taalking about ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 AC'97 Audio Controller
[05:58] <jedilj> i'm new and don't know what i'm doing
[05:58] <cmweb> do this
[05:58] <ubd> how can i upgrade to 6.10 desktop from dapper server?
[05:58] <cmweb> in ubuntu go to system
[05:58] <stalefries> docgnome; no idea at this point
[05:58] <snowshoefox> wow, kernel compilng now is so automated
[05:58] <cmweb> administration->devicemanager
[05:58] <stalefries> !install
[05:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:58] <jedilj> okay
[05:58] <stalefries> oh, wrong one
[05:58] <gmitchel> cmweb: that's the proper southbridge and audiocontroller, just wondering if the chip was a realtek 650 or 850 or what
[05:58] <confusco> !programs
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about programs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:58] <snowshoefox> no more .swp files from viming in every directory to modify configs
[05:58] <confusco> jediji, what do you want to do?
[05:58] <sky123> docgnome: i think there maybe still an ipkungfu irc room..the guy that wrote it...is usually just hanging out
[05:58] <Snake> is there some way for me to control the volume levels of gnome-volume through a shell script?
[05:59] <jedilj> install souldseek
[05:59] <jedilj> soulseek
[05:59] <stalefries> ubd: 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[05:59] <cmweb> yeah its a realtech
[05:59] <ubd> ^^
[05:59] <gmitchel> cmweb: i have a 650 working on an old maching, but the 850 is the one having issues
[05:59] <Snake> anyone?
[06:00] <cmweb> did you download the aproperate driver.
[06:00] <snide> hey guys how do i install a different linux environment (right now i have two ; kde and gnome but i remember theres one  more
[06:00] <snide> right now im under kde enivornment
[06:00] <confusco> soulseek might be a problem
[06:00] <Snake> snide, another is xfce
[06:00] <gmitchel> cmweb: got the new motherboard cuz the old one was so easy to get going and they were very similar...
[06:00] <ubd> stalefries: how can i -only- install xserver + gnome
[06:00] <Snake> snide, or fluxbox
[06:01] <gmitchel> cmweb: yeah, tried installing from realtek's site
[06:01] <Snake> snide, just sudo apt-get install xfce4 for example
[06:01] <Snake> is there some way for me to control the volume levels of gnome-volume through a shell script?
[06:01] <ubd> snake: how can i -only- install xserver + gnome on server
[06:01] <cmweb> Is yours aa motherboard built in?
[06:01] <Evan_> no one wants to help me with my mounting problem, my life hangs in the balance!
[06:01] <cmweb> thats whaat mine is, by realtech but on the board
[06:02] <Snake> ubd, do a server install, then sudo apt-get install gnome-core
[06:02] <Snake> if i remeber right
[06:02] <ubd> gnome-core will req. x11 right?
[06:02] <gmitchel> cmweb: yeah, onboard
[06:02] <Snake> ubd, mhm
[06:03] <cmweb> Then it should detect, are you on 6.06
[06:03] <ubd> mhm?
[06:03] <Snake> ubd, correct
[06:03] <cmweb> (ubuntu version)
[06:03] <gmitchel> cmweb: yeah, and it detects it... just won't give me any audio... sounds like the old mute problem but i assure you, it's not
[06:04] <jcruzlara> Hi is there anyone here that could help me with a monitor problem please.
[06:04] <cmweb> Use rythmbox
[06:04] <cmweb> mine work on rythm box
[06:04] <ubd> do i have update manager in dapper server?
[06:04] <gmitchel> cmweb: ill give it a try
[06:05] <cmweb> Rythmbox Music Player
[06:05] <slavik> ubd: 'which update-manager'
[06:05] <jcruzlara> Anyone?
[06:05] <snide> thanks snake but what is the sudo command word?
[06:05] <slavik> !ask | jcruzlara
[06:05] <ubotu> jcruzlara: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:06] <snide> !sudo
[06:06] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:06] <snide> oo :P
[06:06] <Snake> ubotu, sudo > snide
[06:06] <ubd> slavik: gksu command
[06:06] <cmweb> !laanguage
[06:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about laanguage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:06] <Chico_mecanico> hi
[06:06] <snide> !language
[06:06] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:06] <slavik> ubd: you mean gksudo ...
[06:06] <snide> lol
[06:06] <cmweb> !language
[06:06] <jcruzlara> Ok sorry well Im trying to get my resolution to 1440x900 but everytime i chage it in xorg it keeps changing to a diffirent one.
[06:06] <Snake> is there some way for me to control the volume levels of gnome-volume through a shell script?
[06:07] <slavik> jcruzlara: what video card and what drivers?
[06:07] <b34n> I installed Ubuntu in a virtual machine and the resolution is all messed up. what's the easiest way to reach the terminal from the main login screen?
[06:07] <Chico_mecanico> !list
[06:07] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:07] <slavik> Snake: try 'man gnome-volume-manager'
[06:07] <jcruzlara> ugh its an integrated unicrhome card
[06:07] <slavik> jcruzlara: does it support the resolution in windows?
[06:08] <SurfnKid> anyone get an 865G card to work succesfully at 1024 24bit on Ubuntu?
[06:08] <landan> how do i boot to my installed ubuntu from the cd - load root=/dev/hdb1 ?
[06:08] <jcruzlara> Oh yea thought that would be the problem no it didn't.
[06:08] <slavik> SurfnKid: use the i810 driver
[06:08] <b34n> I mean...is there a keyboard shortcut to start the terminal ?
[06:08] <jcruzlara> shame i just got this awesome 19" monitor and I can't even use it.
[06:09] <Snake> slavik, I have
[06:09] <slavik> jcruzlara: then I bet the chip doesn't support the resolution. sorry
[06:09] <Snake> slavik, it doesnt mention control via CLI
[06:09] <Lam_> [y/N]  on apt-get ==> --force-yes will override and select yes?
[06:09] <cmweb> Has anyone ever tyred Microsoft Flight Simulator 2004 on wine in ubuntu
[06:09] <jcruzlara> Oh well guess I'll just get a new graphics card. Thank you for your help.
[06:09] <slavik> wrong one :P
[06:09] <SurfnKid> slavik, the one included with ubuntu?
[06:10] <cmweb> !warrenty
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about warrenty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <ubd> how to upgrade to 6.10 with only gnome, from dapper server
[06:10] <cmweb> !warranty
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about warranty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <cmweb> 6.10 kill my machine
[06:10] <cmweb> i got it and i could not dialup
[06:11] <slavik> Snake: check out alsa-mixer
[06:11] <Snake> this is messed up :'(
[06:11] <ubd> 6.10 requires dsl dont you know that? :P
[06:11] <ubd> how to upgrade to 6.10 with only gnome, from dapper server
[06:11] <Snake> slavik, I diidddd I cant pass on flag commands to set the level though
[06:11] <slavik> ubd: you only want gnome from 6.10?
[06:12] <cmweb> ubd, jeez them in not upgrading again, i had to reboot
[06:12] <cmweb> i meen
[06:12] <cmweb> reformat thaats it
[06:12] <luminousnerd> anyone here do beryl?? :( I really want it to work
[06:12] <ubd> i want the kernel etc too
[06:12] <slavik> luminousnerd: what card and what driver you have?>
[06:12] <slavik> ubd: you either upgrade everything or nothing, sorry, but that's how it has to be
[06:12] <luminousnerd> slavik: Nvidia 6600GT, nvidia driver
[06:13] <ubd> slavik how to upgrade to 6.10 server with only gnome, from dapper server
[06:13] <jcruzlara> wait but if my chipset doesn't support it doesn't it mean that it wouldn't be able to display any resolution above 1440x900?
[06:13] <slavik> ubd: did you read my PM?
[06:13] <ubd> no i get no pm
[06:13] <slavik> jcruzlara: only that resolution, since it is not 4:3 or 5:4
[06:14] <ubd> slavik: i wnt to upgrede to 610 server then install gnomecore
[06:14] <slavik> jcruzlara: for example, with vesa drivers, my laptop can only display 1024x768, but my display is 1280x768 ... once I installed fglrx, that resolution because available
[06:14] <jcruzlara> because i can change it to 1600x1200 which is wide screen and higher
[06:14] <slavik> ubd, why not dist-upgrade? is this a production amchine? or something you play around with at home?
[06:14] <b34n> I use gnome...where would my resolution settings be stored?
[06:14] <cmweb> Any one want to buy me dsl.... I wont run up the bill (as long as its fixed rate ;))
[06:14] <slavik> jcruzlara: then it doesn't support that particular resolution
[06:15] <ubd> slavik: i have to save bandwidth
[06:15] <jcruzlara> aaww
[06:15] <slavik> cmweb: if verizon is in your area, they have very low rates
[06:15] <slavik> ubd: can you download the edgy server CD? could use that as a repo
[06:16] <ubd> i just dont want to install silly games and mail readrs and media players and codecs etc
[06:16] <ubd> hmm
[06:16] <digiqq> hey guys, I was trying to install Java, but how come I get this msg: "Setting up sun-java5-bin (1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1) ...
[06:16] <digiqq> Error: could not find libjava.so
[06:16] <digiqq> Error: could not find Java 2 Runtime Environment."
[06:17] <ubd> slavik do you say, upgrade from cd or make clean install
[06:17] <Snake> slavik, amixer.
[06:17] <luminousnerd> slavik: can you help?
[06:17] <slavik> ubd: upgrade from cd
[06:18] <Snake> slavik, amixer set master <level here> (just for future info)
[06:18] <Snake> Master
[06:18] <Snake> rather
[06:18] <Snake> (gotta cap it)
[06:18] <slavik> Snake: what do you need it for (curiosity)
[06:18] <slavik> luminousnerd: what's the trouble?
[06:18] <slavik> cmweb: what kind of grades do you get?
[06:19] <Snake> slavik, nixbox as alarm clock. I got it set to be at 05% for me to go to sleep, then go to 90% for my waking alarm
[06:19] <Snake> slavik, then its quiet at night, and wakes me up in the morning
[06:19] <luminousnerd> slavik: well, I can run beryl-manager and it launches fine, but none of the effects actually happen..everything looks the same.  It was working fine for a while, but then stopped.
[06:19] <slavik> Snake: nice :)
[06:19] <luminousnerd> Didn't do anything afaik to make it stop
[06:19] <slavik> Snake: you have to post a how to somewhere :)
[06:19] <cmweb> Im passing thats aall i care about im a freshman
[06:19] <haxality> hi all
[06:19] <Snake> slavik, its really simple actually, kalarm with a few commands in it
[06:19] <haxality> I'm having an interesting problem with NetworkManager
[06:19] <rlee> hi there
[06:19] <slavik> Snake: still, post a howto and pics ... or something
[06:19] <haxality> I'm running it under fluxbox, and it works great
[06:20] <slavik> luminousnerd: how do you start beryl?
[06:20] <Snake> slavik, hehe ill think about it
[06:20] <Snake> night all
[06:20] <haxality> but it errors when it tries to store WEP/WPA keys automatically
[06:20] <slavik> with beryl-manager?
[06:20] <rlee> does anyone know the virtual machine for ubuntu?
[06:20] <haxality> so I have to enter them every time
[06:20] <haxality> is there any way to fix this?
[06:20] <luminousnerd> slavik: well I've tried both ways: command line and the shortcut I made for it, both are beryl-manager
[06:20] <yakumo> hi anyone know how can i rename a database in mysql?
[06:20] <slavik> luminousnerd: I dunno what to say ... try #beryl
[06:21] <slavik> yakumo: I suggest looking through MySQL documentation (I have no idea)
[06:21] <luminousnerd> slavik: okay :/ thanks anyway
[06:21] <gubluntu> can someone please help me get back my virtual consoles
[06:21] <yakumo> ok thnks
[06:21] <gubluntu> ctrl-alt-f1 sends me to just a flashing cursor with no login prompt
[06:21] <haxality> ..anyone?
[06:22] <rlee> helo
[06:22] <slavik> gubluntu: pastebin your /etc/inittab
[06:22] <slavik> !pastebin | gubluntu
[06:22] <ubotu> gubluntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:23] <slavik> haxality: I wish I could help, but as it is, my wifi card doesn't even scan :(
[06:23] <rlee> anyone use ubuntu 6.01?
[06:24] <slavik> rlee: no such version :P you mean 6.10
[06:24] <cmweb> rlee, wow thaats like old you should upgrade
[06:24] <slavik> cmweb: rofl
[06:24] <slavik> rlee: you were talking about a virtual machine ...
[06:25] <rlee> slavik: yes
[06:25] <gubluntu> slavik, http://pastebin.ca/253015
[06:25] <cmweb> slavik, youl pay
[06:25] <slavik> rlee: you mean like VMware?
[06:25] <raknam> hi, i'm trying to unstall ubuntu server on a desktop, and i'm in the "low memory mode" even though i have 300 something megs of ram
[06:25] <rlee> slavik: does VMware run on ubuntu?
[06:25] <raknam> and i'm at the "load install components from CD stage"  but it won't let me go forward
[06:25] <slavik> rlee: yes, I have it running on dapper at work ...
[06:25] <NineTeen67Comet> aarg .. I accidently aptitude the newest nvidia driver only to find out my card is a NV15 / GeForce2 GTS/PRO and needed the nvidia-glx-legacy driver .. so I removed nvidia-glx and installed nvidia-glx-legacy .. restarted the box, and saw the nvidia logo, but there is no glxinfo .. it say no GLX on 0:0 .. help?
[06:26] <raknam> Any ideas?
[06:26] <slavik> raknam: so you are trying to isntall ...
[06:26] <rlee> slavik:  i am using ubuntu 6.01
[06:26] <slavik> rlee: you are using 6.10 (switch the 1 and 0)
[06:26] <raknam> 6.06 server
[06:26] <landan> how do i boot off my ubuntu partition from the live cd? (what is the command when im in Boot Options)?!
[06:26] <slavik> and I don't see a reason why it wouldn't work ...
[06:26] <raknam> LAMP
[06:26] <cmweb> rlee, please dont make me look like i know nothjing
[06:26] <cmweb> SLAVIC
[06:27] <landan> boot root=/dev/hdb1 ?
[06:27] <slavik> landan: from the GRUB screen?
[06:27] <landan> no havent gone a grub screen
[06:27] <cmweb> slavik*
[06:27] <landan> from the cd
[06:27] <slavik> landan: or when you are in the LiveCD environment
[06:27] <gubluntu> slavik, also, fyi, dont know if its related, when i poerdown or try to reboot it hangs right at the point of poweroff/restarting.. i.e. blinking cursors on blank screen just like if i try to switch into a vt
[06:27] <landan> booting off the live cd because windows is using my MBR
[06:28] <rlee> slavik: what os can we run on VMware in ubuntu?
[06:28] <landan> but ubuntu is installed successfully on one of my partitions
[06:28] <slavik> landan: right ... and you installed windows after ubuntu?
[06:28] <graveson> without going into the background ,what does the output mean "Disk /dev/sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table"
[06:28] <snide> hey im back again, im @ ubuntu server , dling a file called "ubuntu-6.10-alternate-amd64.iso" im hoping that it is the right OS for my computer because since I use AMD64 Athlon 3500, should I go ahead or .. ?
[06:28] <slavik> landan: you need to reinstall GRUB to MBR, please search the wiki pages (I never done it)
[06:28] <landan> ok
[06:28] <snide> right now im using a sorta of general or generic one but its making my computer seemingly choppy
[06:28] <landan> but how do i boot to ubuntu so i CAN install grub?
[06:28] <slavik> snide: uname -r and tell me what it says
[06:28] <slavik> landan: you can use the LiveCD for that
[06:29] <landan> ok
[06:29] <landan> how?!
[06:29] <landan> thats what im trying to do
[06:29] <slavik> landan: search the wiki please ... I've never done it
[06:29] <snide> 2.6.17-10-generic , slavik
[06:29] <landan> sigh
[06:29] <slavik> snide: uname -a then ...
[06:29] <snide> Linux bluefire 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:45:35 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux, Slavik
[06:30] <snide> whats the difference between i386 and i686 ?
[06:30] <slavik> gubluntu: the VTs are enabled ... try to boot into recovery mode, then do 'init 2' after you get a promt ...
[06:31] <ubd> theres no ubuntu-minimal package in 6.10?!!!
[06:31] <snide> Slavik, well?
[06:31] <slavik> snide: i386 is like the first pentium, i686 is the P4, Athlon type (extra x86 commands)
[06:31] <alpha_charlie> i'm trying to install unbuntu 6.06 on a dell inspiron 2500 laptop and all i end up with is a blank screen. Anyone have any suggestions?
[06:31] <snide> oo
[06:31] <slavik> ubd: should be ubuntu-core
[06:31] <snide> hm
[06:31] <slavik> snide: should be fine
[06:31] <snide> alright so i should leave my current os alone?
[06:31] <slavik> snide: not sure if you are running 32bit right now or 64bit ...
[06:31] <cmweb> Hey whats the synch time for ubuntu in the easter time zone?
[06:31] <snide> no need for me tore install?
[06:31] <cmweb> i mean the site URL
[06:32] <NineTeen67Comet> My sound dies after my last upgrade and I see this error in my dmesg: . EMU10K1_Audigy: probe of 0000:00:0e.0 failed with error -5 .. Ideas?
[06:32] <slavik> snide: if it's a server then I suggest not to unless you REALLY have to
[06:32] <snide> check the wiki site for my amd64 athlon, it says its 64bit architure based
[06:32] <crimsun> NineTeen67Comet: irq issues.
[06:32] <snide> nope, the computer im using is not a server
[06:32] <snide> ;D
[06:32] <crimsun> NineTeen67Comet: check dmesg for additional clues
[06:32] <slavik> snide: I know ... but you can run 32bit OS and everything on it :)
[06:32] <snide> really?
[06:32] <slavik> crimsun: :D
[06:32] <slavik> snide: yes
[06:32] <snide> hm
[06:32] <NineTeen67Comet> crimsun: thanks .. I'm scrolling around ..
[06:32] <slavik> snide: A64 can detect 32bit code and switch to 32bit mode ... the OS never knows the diff
[06:33] <snide> didnt know that, thought that a certain linux os gotta be pick up for a specific cpu / arcihture or whatever that is
[06:33] <snide> oo
[06:33] <slavik> snide: somewhat
[06:33] <slavik> snide: a sun sparc is diff than an a64 architecture ...
[06:33] <snide> ahh
[06:33] <slavik> a64 = x86-64 = x86 32bit with 64bit extensions
[06:35] <alpha_charlie> Hello i'm trying to install unbuntu 6.06 on a dell inspiron 2500 laptop and all i end up with is a blank screen. Anyone have any suggestions?
[06:35] <snide> right now my os gets choppy every time i drag any application around  and right now if i try to change my login windows display, it wont come up and if i go under gnome eniivronment and try to remove/change apps .. says some packages are broken and i need to repair them. how i do that?
[06:35] <NineTeen67Comet>  PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #6:10000@f8000000 for 0000:01:00.0
[06:35] <NineTeen67Comet>  crimsun this is another fail I see.. but PCI 1:00 is my agp slot .. (from what I can tell) .. is it maybe something in my BIOS I borked?
[06:35] <sully86> I mounted a windows share but the directory comes up blank and it just shows me the free space and says permisson denied if i try to write to it.. any ideas what i did wrong?
[06:35] <john64> does anyone know of a script to rename files in a directory to be VFAT safe names?
[06:35] <slavik> john64: no
[06:35] <slavik> john64: how are you at programming?
[06:36] <john64> fine, but its not something that i really have time to write
[06:36] <NineTeen67Comet> brb gonna dink w/my bios ..
[06:36] <slavik> john64: well, gives you an opportunity to practice :)
[06:36] <john64> slavik: i also don't know the pattern for VFAT safe names
[06:36] <snide> Right now I'd like to remove an entire of KDE enivronment and applications from my os, leaving only Gnome and Xfce on. But every time I go on gnome's add and remove apps, I try to remove any KDE related apps .. I end up getting an error message saying that some packages are broken and I need to repair them first before I can even remove them entirely.
[06:36] <slavik> john64: any printable alpha character and the starting can't be '.'
[06:37] <snide> How do I repair the broken packages?
[06:37] <Heiroglyphics> anyone know how to use the chown for the account instead of the each file?
[06:37] <slavik> snide: open synaptic and then click filters and then broken packages, then remove them
[06:37] <john64> what do you mean heiroglyphics
[06:37] <Malte> quit
[06:37] <slavik> Heiroglyphics: huh?
[06:37] <aseveremercy> anyone installed mysql on ubuntu?
[06:37] <Heiroglyphics> i need to do it in the terminal
[06:37] <slavik> Heiroglyphics: by definition chown acts on files/directories
[06:37] <snide> oo thanks slavik lol
[06:38] <hajiki> can i install the Transmission bittorrent client in ubuntu?
[06:38] <john64> like "chmod user:group ./* -R
[06:38] <snide> alright ill be back, slavik
[06:38] <john64> ???
[06:38] <snide> ur extremely helpful, slavik
[06:38] <snide> thanks!
[06:38] <slavik> john64: yes
[06:38] <john64> i meant, is that what he was asking ;)
[06:38] <slavik> john64: that's chown, not chmod
[06:38] <Heiroglyphics> slavik:I need to do it on a login account, i need to change it from root to admin
[06:38] <john64> what is it exactly?
[06:39] <aseveremercy> any mysql users out there?
[06:39] <slavik> Heiroglyphics: ok, entering dangerous waters, why do you want that?
[06:39] <aseveremercy> anyone know what the debian package for mysql is?
[06:39] <slavik> Heiroglyphics: you want to have an account 'admin' instead of 'root'?
[06:39] <slavik> aseveremercy: have you tried searching in synaptic?
[06:39] <slavik> !synaptic
[06:39] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[06:39] <john64> aservermercy: packages.debian.org are your friend too
[06:39] <Heiroglyphics> slavik: I accidently changed admin to root
[06:39] <Heiroglyphics> slavik: and I need to change it back
[06:40] <carpediem> hajiki: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=244677
[06:40] <slavik> Heiroglyphics: you mean the group or the user?
[06:40] <john64> you could run chmod admin:admin <path> -R
[06:40] <slavik> john64: this is different, I think
[06:40] <Heiroglyphics> slavik: I think i changed both but im pretty sure its the user
[06:40] <hajiki> carpediem: thanks
[06:40] <slavik> Heiroglyphics: hang on
[06:40] <aseveremercy> slavik, yes i did -- but didn't find it
[06:40] <Heiroglyphics> slavik:k
[06:41] <raknam> hi, i'm having trouble installing ubuntu server on an old desktop, can someone point me in the direction of a guide or how to on ubuntu wiki or forums or something?
[06:41] <aseveremercy> john64 -- i'll try that
[06:41] <john64> there is also packages.ubuntu.com for ubuntu stuff
[06:41] <slavik> raknam: get the alternate CD, that should work
[06:41] <slavik> Heiroglyphics: can you open System -> Administration -> Users and Groups ?
[06:41] <Maurox> raknam: what problems do you have ??
[06:41] <john64> aservermercy: mysql-server
[06:42] <Heiroglyphics> slavik: i can't login, im doing it off the rescue terminal
[06:42] <chino_> ya estoy
[06:42] <john64> or mysql-client are metapackages to the client and server ones for Ubuntu
[06:42] <aseveremercy> o.k. here is my problem, after typing:
[06:42] <Heiroglyphics> slavik: it was the only account
[06:42] <aseveremercy> apt-get install mysql-server
[06:42] <slavik> no user account?
[06:42] <Heiroglyphics> only 1
[06:42] <robert_> can I apt-get the intel C++ compiler?
[06:42] <john64> not likely
[06:42] <slavik> there was a user and a root account
[06:42] <aseveremercy> now it wants the cdrom, but can't find it
[06:42] <john64> oh
[06:43] <aseveremercy> Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[06:43] <aseveremercy>  'Ubuntu-Server 6.06.1 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060807.1)'
[06:43] <aseveremercy> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[06:43] <Healot> robertj_: no, it;s proprietary...
[06:43] <aseveremercy> but the cd is in the drive
[06:43] <BadKitty> Question: I have the processor usage display on my menu bar, and it is displaying 100% ALOT of the time, even when there is nothing going on, or right on start up, why would it do this?
[06:43] <john64> just comment out the first few lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:43] <Heiroglyphics> 2 account with root access
[06:43] <john64> i can show you mine if you like
[06:43] <aseveremercy> john64 -- my apt-sources?
[06:43] <slavik> aseveremercy: 'sudo mount /media/cdrom'
[06:43] <john64> sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:43] <confusco> BadKitty did you try rebooting
[06:43] <slavik> Heiroglyphics: go into /etc and check who owns rc.d
[06:43] <raknam> well first it says that i don't have enough memory because the system requires at least 32 megs, i have 300+, and when i'm loading installer components it will download them and then go back to the same "load installer components" screen, then when i "go back" and go on the next step it says i don't have the correct network hardware drivers for the kernal
[06:44] <aseveremercy> slavik -- wait -- what am i telling it to mount with sudo mount /media/cdrom
[06:44] <BadKitty> confusco: yep I restarted and it has been showing 100% usage most of this session
[06:44] <aseveremercy> don't i have to specify a device?
[06:44] <slavik> aseveremercy: to mount the cdrom
[06:44] <confusco> so Right after restart it is still at 100?
[06:44] <aseveremercy> tbooher@stadion:~$ sudo mount /media/cdrom
[06:44] <aseveremercy> mount: No medium found
[06:44] <slavik> aseveremercy: no, mount will look into fstab for /media/cdrom entry
[06:44] <john64> aserveremercy: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1465
[06:44] <BadKitty> confusco, after I opened the first program
[06:44] <Heiroglyphics> slavik:there are only 2 users hidden root user and regular user
[06:45] <aseveremercy> dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[06:45] <aseveremercy> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[06:45] <robert_> john64: was that to me? heh
[06:45] <confusco> not really sure
[06:45] <john64> the pastebin, no, but feel free to use it
[06:45] <aseveremercy> john64 -- i'll check it out
[06:45] <BadKitty> confusco, but when I look in the system monitor it says only 65 is being used by processes
[06:45] <slavik> aseveremercy: then cdrom0 or cdrom1 ... oen of them should mount
[06:45] <john64> aserveremercy, that is a waste of time if you dont have the cd
[06:45] <confusco> 65%?
[06:45] <slavik> Heiroglyphics: and you changed the hidden root user to admin?
[06:46] <BadKitty> 6%
[06:46] <confusco> oh
[06:46] <aseveremercy> john64 -- i have the cd -- but it looks for /cdrom/ -- i have cdrom0
[06:46] <Heiroglyphics> slavik: no i changed the regular admin user to root
[06:46] <john64> oh
[06:46] <confusco> I have had that happen, but it was fixed after restart
[06:46] <aseveremercy> synaptic doesn't know where to look!
[06:46] <slavik> Heiroglyphics: so you have 2 root users?
[06:46] <john64> mount /dev/hdc
[06:46] <snide> Hey, I'm back.. under Gnome Environment.. right now I'm unable to right click button to bring up gnome background wallpaper change .. whats up with that?
[06:46] <BadKitty> I restated twice and same thing... do you think the menu display is wrong?
[06:46] <john64> aserveremercy mount /dev/hdc
[06:46] <aseveremercy> tbooher@stadion:~$ mount /dev/hdc
[06:46] <aseveremercy> mount: No medium found
[06:47] <john64> well sudo that
[06:47] <Heiroglyphics> slavik:yeah and I need to change the non-hidden one to normal
[06:47] <john64> $ file /dev/hdc
[06:47] <confusco> Ubuntu is still way buggy
[06:47] <confusco> imo
[06:47] <aseveremercy> tbooher@stadion:~$ sudo mount /dev/hdd
[06:47] <aseveremercy> mount: block device /dev/hdd is write-protected, mounting read-only
[06:47] <aseveremercy> is that o.k.?
[06:47] <slavik> Heiroglyphics: are you on edgy?
[06:48] <Heiroglyphics> slavik:yeah
[06:48] <BadKitty> i'd agree
[06:48] <bigfuzzyjesus> confusco, how so, it isnt buggy, xp is buggy
[06:48] <slavik> Heiroglyphics: are you in X?
[06:48] <john64> aserveremercy: the easiest way is to comment out the CDROM repositories in the sources.list file
[06:48] <dead1ock> you tell me ;)
[06:48] <snide> GUYS how do I reinstall the utbuntu without having to use the CD to manually delete the linux hdas then create them again and reinstall everything?
[06:48] <carpediem> snide: perhaps nautilus isn't running.  Try Places > Home Folder, which runs nautilus
[06:48] <confusco> not in my opinion
[06:48] <aseveremercy> john64 -- got it -- i'll try that
[06:48] <slavik> aseveremercy: yes, it's a CD-ROM ... duh :P
[06:48] <john64> if you run the command cat /etc/apt/sources.list > ~/Desktop/sources.list.txt
[06:48] <Heiroglyphics> slvik:not too sure but mostlikely since i need to use grub to get into the rescue terminal
[06:48] <john64> then copy the file on your desktop into a pastebin then i can edit it for you if you like
[06:49] <slavik> Heiroglyphics: you're in X if you are using GNOME/KDE/XFCE right now ...
[06:49] <aseveremercy> slavik -- well i know that -- i have two cd rom's (cd and dvd player) and i think that is giving me trouble -- but let me try john64's idea first
[06:49] <snide> alright. how do i reinstall the os again without having cd to reinstall?
[06:49] <Heiroglyphics> slavik:its gnome
[06:49] <snide> or without deleting the hdds?
[06:49] <slavik> Heiroglyphics: you did startx from the rescue terminal?
[06:49] <Kleggas> has anyone fixed the problem when alsa driver for realtech soundcards (mine is ALC883 accoeding to OSS) stops working after installing fglrx driver either from repos or ati.com? I had front and mic mixer + a couple more and now I only have 2.0 sound without mic with OSS instead of alsa because I use fglrx
[06:50] <aseveremercy> john64 -- how do i use pastebin
[06:50] <Heiroglyphics> slavik:i don't know
[06:50] <slavik> Heiroglyphics: are you running through recovery console right now?
[06:50] <john64> open the file, copy the text, goto pastebin.mozilla.org, past it in the big box then click send
[06:50] <slavik> Heiroglyphics: or did you boot from the LiveCD?
[06:50] <slavik> !pastebin
[06:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:50] <Heiroglyphics> slavik: running right now but i have to restart my computer to get into it
[06:51] <carpediem> snide: why do you want to reinstall?  There's almost never a reason for that.
[06:51] <slavik> Heiroglyphics: ok, so you booted from your HD and selected the recovery console from GRUB?
[06:51] <Heiroglyphics> slavik:yeah
[06:51] <snide> Alright sorry. Probably a old habit I picked up from Windows lol
[06:51] <slavik> Heiroglyphics: I am trying to figure out what type of environment you are in ...
[06:51] <slavik> Heiroglyphics: ok, good
[06:51] <snide> solve a plm by reinstall LOL
[06:51] <carpediem> snide: right, bad habit.  What is wrong?
[06:51] <aseveremercy> cool -- http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1466
[06:52] <slavik> Heiroglyphics: go to System -> Administration -> Users and Groups
[06:52] <ubd> yes snide windows rock
[06:52] <snide> Lemma type
[06:52] <Heiroglyphics> slavik:ok
[06:52] <slavik> Heiroglyphics: in the list, you should see the two root users
[06:52] <slavik> tell me the groups for each one (select one and click properties)
[06:52] <Heiroglyphics> slavik:how do i change one of them to regular?
[06:53] <snide> Carpediem, anywhere in desktop area I would rightclick the mouse to bring up background / wallpaper changer under gnome right? Well this time it isnt coming up .. just nothing.
[06:53] <Heiroglyphics> k
[06:53] <slavik> actually, scratch the groups
[06:53] <Heiroglyphics> just user?
[06:53] <aseveremercy> o.k. -- i have uncommented the line -- but i think i need to reinit synaptic -- how do i do that??
[06:53] <slavik> tell me their Home Directory (same part as the user lsit)
[06:53] <carpediem> snide: as I said, nautilus probably crashed or something.  Run "Places > Home Folder"
[06:53] <aseveremercy> john64 -- did you see my pastebin
[06:53] <slavik> aseveremercy: just restart it
[06:53] <aseveremercy> slavik -- sorry -- how do i do that?
[06:53] <john64> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1467
[06:53] <snide> okay i just did that. yay, now what?
[06:54] <BadKitty> IF MY resources in system monitor say my cpu is running at 100%, but processes only are at 6-8, what else could be eating at my cpu?
[06:54] <aseveremercy> thanks -- john64
[06:54] <snide> the problem is .. i rebooted third times .. same result.
[06:54] <carpediem> snide: now try right clicking on the desktop
[06:54] <slavik> aseveremercy: close synaptic and open it again >.>
[06:54] <john64> np
[06:54] <Heiroglyphics> home/yg
[06:54] <snide> oo
[06:54] <Heiroglyphics> root
[06:54] <aseveremercy> oh -- slavik -- i am using commandline apt-get
[06:54] <snide> nothing.
[06:54] <slavik> Heiroglyphics: take a screenshot and paste in pastebin
[06:54] <slavik> !pastebin| Heiroglyphics
[06:54] <ubotu> Heiroglyphics: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:54] <carpediem> snide: okay...let me think on it a sec.
[06:54] <snide> i left it running , the natilius file browser .. while right click the desktop area
[06:54] <cwatson> BadKitty: Run top in a command line to see all the running processes
[06:54] <snide> alright
[06:54] <john64> aserveremercy: did it work?
[06:54] <Heiroglyphics> slavik: i cant right now
[06:54] <Heiroglyphics> slavik:i g2g
[06:54] <slavik> aseveremercy: in a diff terminal?
[06:55] <carpediem> snide: do you see your desktop icons?
[06:55] <slavik> Heiroglyphics: k, wait
[06:55] <Heiroglyphics> ill figure it out later
[06:55] <Heiroglyphics> k
[06:55] <BadKitty> cwatson: can you explain that to me please?
[06:55] <snide> nope, i remember havintg two hdas (to windows xp and fat32 hdds)
[06:55] <snide> but now all icons areg one
[06:55] <snide> gone
[06:55] <cwatson> BadKitty: open a terminal
[06:55] <Heiroglyphics> waiting*
[06:55] <BadKitty> got it....
[06:55] <aseveremercy> oh -- wait -- i was modifying the sources file i copied onto the Desktop!!
[06:55] <madman215> i have a problem with ubuntu, when i boot the live cd and hit the install thing the screen goes bland except a flashing curser in the top left corner, a few messages go by and then the screen goes compleately blank and after a while the computer just stops doing everything, no cd spin or hard drive spin
[06:55] <slavik> Heiroglyphics: really, quick, the user that has a UserID of 0 is the hidden user, the other one is your regular admin user, also, when you change his username (login name) make sure his group matches the new name ...
[06:55] <ubd> BadKitty: open a terminal and write "top"
[06:55] <carpediem> snide: perhaps nautilus is hung.  Open your terminal, and type "killall nautilus"
[06:55] <john64> that is fine
[06:55] <cwatson> BadKitty: run top
[06:55] <slavik> make it also match the home directory
[06:55] <slavik> got it?
[06:56] <pluma_> If a harddrive makes a mechanical ticking noise and the computer freezes... and then it stops and the computer unfreezes... how long does the HDD survive?
[06:56] <Heiroglyphics> ok thanks
[06:56] <cwatson> BadKitty: the one at the top of the list is the one eating all of your cpu
[06:56] <john64> run the command sudo cp ~/Desktop/sources.list.txt /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:56] <haxality_> hey, i'm having problems getting NetworkManager to save my WEP password to keyring
[06:56] <madman215> anyone care to help me out
[06:56] <slavik> pluma_: I'd be ordering a new one ...
[06:56] <slavik> !ask | madman215
[06:56] <ubotu> madman215: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:56] <madman215> i did
[06:56] <snide> oops think it had something to uninstallation i done back on kde by accident
[06:56] <snide> i will brb
[06:56] <carpediem> slavik: he did ask his question
[06:56] <asc> pluma_: if you're lucky, long enough for you to copy any important files off.
[06:56] <ubd> pluma: 1245hours
[06:56] <slavik> ahh, I see
[06:57] <slavik> madman215: bad news ... I have no idea :(
[06:57] <cwatson> BadKitty: What do you see?
[06:57] <BadKitty> xorg
[06:57] <cwatson> BadKitty: How fast is your machine?
[06:57] <pluma_> asc: Well, it's still surviving. For days. The ticking is just getting more common.
[06:57] <haxality_> again.. just wondering if anyone knows why Network Manager won't save my WEP password
[06:57] <aseveremercy> john64 -- good -- looks like it is working!
[06:57] <pluma_> And it's beginning to tick me off.
[06:57] <jojoman02> YAAY, today i completed 1 full year with ubuntu!!
[06:57] <graveson> what does the output mean "Disk /dev/sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table" and how can i fix this
[06:58] <pluma_> I'd have replaced the drive already if it wasn't my Windows box's system drive. Re-installing Windows is HELL
[06:58] <cwatson> sweet! jojoman
[06:58] <madman215> how long should i wait before reposting my question?
[06:58] <john64> aserveremercy: awesome!
[06:58] <BadKitty> It's an AMD 64-bit something, Gig-Ram
[06:58] <haxality_> pluma_: re-installing most operating systems is hell
[06:58] <haxality_> :P
[06:58] <pluma_> It's not as bad with Linux
[06:58] <carpediem> madman215: I don't know your problem, but you might try dapper and see if it will install, then upgrade to edgy once you install it.  Of course it may not work with Dapper either.
[06:58] <jojoman02> madman215, wait around 3-5 min
[06:58] <cwatson> BadKitty: is the cpu maxed out now?
[06:58] <haxality_> well, it's the same basic process.. you install the OS, then you install apps
[06:59] <confusco> WinXP owns
[06:59] <BadKitty> that is what it says
[06:59] <aseveremercy> o.k. while i have an expert's ear: john64 -- can you help me fix this problem:
[06:59] <madman215> ok thanks
[06:59] <aseveremercy> Reading package lists... Done
[06:59] <aseveremercy> W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[06:59] <aseveremercy> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[06:59] <carpediem> madman215: another thing...
[06:59] <pluma_> WinXP is HELL
[06:59] <wikityler> i agree
[06:59] <cwatson> BadKitty: what percentage is xorg using?
[06:59] <sephiron> exactly
[06:59] <madman215> carpediem, ya?
[06:59] <slavik> pluma_: yes it is
[06:59] <carpediem> madman215: did you run the consistency check on the CD to make sure its good?
[06:59] <BadKitty> between 10 and 20
[06:59] <aseveremercy> (apt-get update didn't help)
[06:59] <slavik> !ru
[06:59] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[06:59] <confusco> no it's not!
[06:59] <haxality_> maybe it's my linux noobyness, but ubuntu wasn't any better or worse than winXP for me, in terms of the installation
[06:59] <wikityler> but atm i'm not finding ubuntu any better
[06:59] <pluma_> If I could get WINE to run properly on my amd64, I wouldn't even NEED Windows.
[06:59] <asc> pluma_: I recommend that you not use it at all except to save your files.  You really, really, do not want to gamble with your files when a drive starts dying.  Trust me on this.
[06:59] <madman215> carpediem, ya but it does the same thing
[07:00] <carpediem> madman215: a bad download, or a bad burn can cause these kinds of problems.
[07:00] <cwatson> BadKitty: hmm, what makes you think that your cpu is maxed?
[07:00] <slavik> haxality_: how many times did you have to reboot during installation and which one was easier to understand what is going on?
[07:00] <confusco> WinXP ownzers joo
[07:00] <pluma_> asc: I have already backed up all the important file to another drive. It's just a PITA to use atm
[07:00] <slavik> haxality_: :P
[07:00] <BadKitty> it says cpu usage is 100%
[07:00] <slavik> madman215: when booting up, select the option to check the CD
[07:00] <carpediem> madman215: Honestly, I installed last week, and it hung the first time through, but went smooth the second time.
[07:00] <cwatson> BadKitty: what says that?
[07:00] <haxality_> slavik: I didn't have to reboot for XP, the installer did it
[07:00] <sephiron> carpediem: me too
[07:00] <haxality_> slavik: I will concede that ubuntu made it abundantly clear what it was doing
[07:00] <pluma_> I don't want to get ownd by an OS, I want to USE it.
[07:01] <slavik> haxality_: there is the touchy issue of stuff working out of the box (most stuff for me)
[07:01] <haxality_> slavik: also, being able to use the internets while waiting for it to install was pretty awesome
[07:01] <BadKitty> well... top says 67% and 100% on the menu bar.
[07:01] <slavik> haxality_: good argument against yourself :P
[07:01] <haxality_> I am an ex-hardcore windows user, so, heh
[07:01] <BadKitty> (system monitor)
[07:01] <corevette> is there a vmware irc channel
[07:01] <john64> try #vmware
[07:02] <haxality_> slavik: when you say 'stuff working out of the box', what do you mean?
[07:02] <asc> pluma_: Okay then.  You might consider looking into using dd to copy the win partition to a new drive.
[07:02] <haxality_> like, the generic apps?
[07:02] <slavik> corevette: try #vmware? although I doubt anyone is there besides you
[07:02] <confusco> I still say WinXP is way easier to use and get things working :(
[07:02] <john64> what is your question?
[07:02] <slavik> haxality_: all of my hardware (except video) works completely out of the box ...
[07:02] <hansin321> I just tried it (#vmware) and there are a bunch of people on it.
[07:02] <haxality_> meh, to get winXP beaten into submission and to get linux beaten into submission are basically equal in difficulty
[07:02] <pip> Hello
[07:02] <haxality_> afaik, of course
[07:02] <aseveremercy> john64 -- i need to fix: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[07:02] <haxality_> it all comes with experience in one or the other
[07:02] <carpediem> hardcore windows user?  I didn't know there was such a thing.  Can you be hardcore on something that is thrust upon you?  That's like being hardcore about the hair you have to pluck between your eyebrows.
[07:02] <slavik> scanner, mouse, keyboard, sound (2 sound cards), TV tuner (didn't set it up because of lazyness)
[07:03] <john64> ignore that
[07:03] <aseveremercy> how do i update my key
[07:03] <aseveremercy> -- o.k. will ignore :)
[07:03] <john64> its a lot more effort than the payoff
[07:03] <haxality_> slavik: well, half of my hardware didn't work with edgy, so I ended up reinstalling 3-4 times. So.. obviously something hooked me
[07:03] <cwatson> BadKitty: What does top report as the overall usage? (first entry in the 3rd line)
[07:03] <sephiron> ati radeon X1300 pro and ati radeon X700 EZ,which is better?
[07:03] <slavik> haxality_: agreed ...
[07:03] <haxality_> hehe
[07:03] <slavik> haxality_: dapper wouldn't install on my system because of an SATA drive ...
[07:03] <BadKitty> cwatson:64.9%
[07:03] <haxality_> whoa, really?
[07:03] <haxality_> good thing this laptop is like 3 years old, then!
[07:04] <slavik> haxality_: dapper doesn't/didn't have libata ...
[07:04] <haxality_> ahh.
[07:04] <kingjere> I added a remote server using the "connect to remote server" dialogue. How do I remove/edit it? It only shows in the "places" menu.
[07:04] <slavik> it hung at 50% through detecting drives
[07:04] <pip> I have a problem: I installed linux and windows on my harddisk ,but when I use ubuntu-6.06 live CD to reinstall ,the [installer ]  could not recognize the old linux partitions ?
[07:04] <haxality_> on a related note, I've been thinking about installing ubuntu on my desktop
[07:04] <carpediem> edgy installed on a SATA II drive, and it wasn't even in IDE mode.  All hail Edgy.
[07:04] <slavik> pip: you should have a desktop icon
[07:04] <haxality_> but I have a lot of media on NTFS partitions that I'd like to share on the network
[07:05] <haxality_> my question. how hard is it to convert a hard drive from NTFS to, say, FAT32
[07:05] <slavik> haxality_: ntfs can be read ... you need ntfs-fuse for writing though
[07:05] <haxality_> hmmm
[07:05] <slavik> haxality_: impossible
[07:05] <haxality_> thought so
[07:05] <haxality_> curse you NTFS!
[07:05] <cwatson> BadKitty: Do you know what kind of graphics card you have?
[07:05] <john64> not with partition magic, but that is $$$$
[07:05] <haxality_> well, is the support for NTFS write in linux what it was the last time I tried to get it?
[07:05] <slavik> haxality_: want a kicker?
[07:05] <haxality_> heh
[07:05] <haxality_> sure
[07:05] <BadKitty> cwatson: Yes it is an nvidia GeforceFX 6600
[07:05] <BadKitty> or maybe a 5900
[07:06] <corevette> is there a reason ubuntu can connect to the internet on win xp run ubuntu, but ubuntu won't connect by itself
[07:06] <cwatson> slavik: is ntfs-fuse in the repositories? is it stable?
[07:06] <haxality_> I've been condemning MS more and more lately, so any ammo is fine by me
[07:06] <haxality_> :P
[07:06] <cwatson> BadKitty: Have you installed the drivers?
[07:06] <john64> winxp being the host?
[07:06] <slavik> haxality_: NTFS was released in 1993, ext3 in 2001. ext3 has journaling support, ntfs doesn't. Vista is not getting WinFS (which would have journaling support) and Microsoft wants to claim that Windows is cutting edge?
[07:06] <carpediem> you could convert an ntfs partition, using ntfsresize to little-by-little move data to another partition, resize, move, resize, rinse repeat.
[07:06] <djembe> anyone have some advice on using wireless on an HP laptop?
[07:06] <BadKitty> cwatson: Yes it is the nvidia beta driver, and I am running beryl
[07:06] <haxality_> hahaha that's awful
[07:07] <haxality_> NTFS is also super-duper proprietary, so it's impossible to read from ANY OS other than win2k/XP/vista
[07:07] <pip> slavik, what do you mean ?
[07:07] <haxality_> that's the most fun of all!
[07:07] <slavik> haxality_: also, ext4 has been announced and is said to become stable in 6-8 months (maybe even in feisty?) and ext4 will have all the ntfs features not in ext3, but those features are not very widely used AFAIK
[07:07] <slavik> pip: in regards to what?
[07:07] <djembe> i tried ndiswrapper but it won't work
[07:07] <haxality_> hrm
[07:07] <haxality_> I'm tempted to just mount my NTFS partitions under the ubuntu liveCD and just leave it like that
[07:07] <corevette> is there a reason ubuntu can connect to the internet on win xp run ubuntu, but ubuntu won't connect if its running by istelf
[07:07] <haxality_> heh, so much less work
[07:07] <pip> slavik, the desktop icon ? did you catch my problem ?
[07:08] <cwatson> BadKitty: Ahhh! Thats may be whats eating your cpu. I found that once in a while the beryl-manager would use 100% of my cpu
[07:08] <confusco> wait, NTFS no journaling support? it does...
[07:08] <slavik> pip: the network place thing?
[07:08] <slavik> confusco: show me your source ...
[07:08] <haxality_> no, no, he's right confusco
[07:08] <haxality_> that's why winFS was such a big deal
[07:08] <carpediem> djembe: what do you mean ndiswrapper didn't work?  more specifically, at what point did you fail
[07:08] <djembe> anyone on using ndiswrapper, I have a broadcom 4306 chipset
[07:08] <haxality_> or at least that's what I thought
[07:08] <djembe> I followed the instructions on several forum pages
[07:08] <carpediem> djembe: on several desktops and laptops, yes
[07:08] <slavik> haxality_: exactly, but Microsoft dumped the project and now everything from WinFS done so far will go into their database ...
[07:09] <haxality_> yeah
[07:09] <haxality_> hahaha
[07:09] <kingjere>  I added a remote server using the "connect to remote server" dialogue. How do I remove/edit it? It only shows in the "places" menu.
[07:09] <djembe> I used "sudo rmmod bcm43xx"
[07:09] <djembe> and i blacklisted
[07:09] <carpediem> djembe: ah, okay
[07:09] <djembe> then ndiswrapper -i bcmlw5.inf
[07:09] <haxality_> well, on that note, I guess I'll go bludgeon my way through yet another winXP install
[07:09] <carpediem> djembe: right
[07:09] <haxality_> sigh
[07:09] <asc> I thought that NTFS was journaling, and that WINFS was just a database on top of NTFS.  But I could be wrong.
[07:09] <djembe> modprobe ndiswrapper
[07:09] <BadKitty> but it doesn't seem like it is going slow or anything, it just SAYS it is
[07:09] <djembe> ndiswrapper -m
[07:09] <slavik> WinFS calcelation was one of the things that really killed Vista (besides having to do loads of hardware upgrades).
[07:09] <pip> slavik, I want to reinstall my ubuntu,but when I use the CD of 6.06, when partition ,the installer can not recognize the old linux partitions ,why ?
[07:09] <confusco> right from Wikipedia...
[07:09] <confusco> "and file system journaling."
[07:09] <john64> good night all
[07:09] <confusco> NTFS
[07:09] <confusco> NTFS=journaling
[07:10] <haxality_> I stand severely corrected, confusco
[07:10] <djembe> but network still didn't work
[07:10] <pip> slavik, I have double systems installed (linux+win)
[07:10] <djembe> lsmod | grep ndis showed that the module was loaded
[07:10] <carpediem> djembe: sure, you never did "modprobe ndiswrapper"
[07:10] <slavik> pip: no idea ...
[07:10] <djembe> i did it
[07:10] <djembe> maybe i forgot to list
[07:10] <djembe> but i did do modprobe ndiswrapper
[07:10] <confusco> and asc ... I think he's right about FS
[07:10] <slavik> ahh, so it does have journaling ...
[07:11] <cwatson> BadKitty: does the cpu usage reported by top ever conflict the usage reported by gnome-system-monitor?
[07:11] <pip> anybody who catch my problem ?
[07:11] <BadKitty> cwatson- it seems like maybe it is loading itself more than once? But I wouldn't know how to check
[07:11] <linux666> hello
[07:11] <slavik> but it still fragments like a mofo
[07:11] <carpediem> djembe: okay, what does ndiswrapper -l  show?  Does it say "driver installed", or does it say "driver installed, hardware present"?
[07:11] <confusco> that was the major thing over Fat32
[07:11] <confusco> that it had journaling
[07:11] <BadKitty> cwatson, yes by far it does
[07:11] <djembe> "driver installed, hardware present"
[07:11] <djembe> was one of the first things i checked
[07:11] <snide> OK, I have downloaded and installed nearly all Gnome based environment and apps related. I got terminal up and running but I still can't right click the desktop area and bring up wallpaper changer
[07:11] <cwatson> BadKitty: what is loading itself more than once?
[07:11] <linux666> pip, no, what problem?
[07:11] <carpediem> djembe: okay, and "iwconfig", does it show a device with wireless extensions?
[07:11] <djembe> yes
[07:11] <djembe> but it cannot associate
[07:12] <djembe> and it cant list availabe networks
[07:12] <cwatson> BadKitty: could be that the system-monitor is lying
[07:12] <pip> linux666,  I want to reinstall my ubuntu,but when I use the CD of 6.06, when partition ,the installer can not recognize the old linux partitions ,why ?
[07:12] <BadKitty> cwatson: Well after a day of running beryl, I restarted and it was SOOOOOO slow, then I closed out of the beryl manager, and beryl was still running but it made it faster
[07:12] <carpediem> djembe: is it wlan0 or ath0?
[07:12] <djembe> wlan0
[07:12] <djembe> it was eth1
[07:12] <BadKitty> cwatson: I am hoping it is just lying to me.. so that is possible then?
[07:12] <snide> Slavik
[07:12] <linux666> pip, delete those partitions and create new ones if you have backed up your data
[07:12] <djembe> i changed all cases of eth1 in /etc/iftab, /etc/networks/interfaces to wlan0
[07:12] <carpediem> djembe: have you tried "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid myessid"  where myessid is your essid?
[07:12] <djembe> yes i did
[07:13] <slavik> snide: yes?
[07:13] <djembe> it gave no errors but immediately gave me the prompt
[07:13] <cwatson> BadKitty: you can run "ps aux | grep beryl" to see how many are running
[07:13] <linux666> pip, why do you need to recognize them?
[07:13] <djembe> and no associating
[07:13] <carpediem> djembe: and, does "iwconfig" show that essid for wlan0?
[07:13] <snide> Well, I still can't seem to right-click and bring up wallpaper/background changer from the desktop area
[07:13] <slavik> snide: hmm ... go to System -> Prefs -> Desktop background
[07:13] <snide> alright
[07:13] <cwatson> BadKitty: you can also run "ps aux | grep -i xorg" to see how man xorg servers are started
[07:13] <pip> linux666, I need not to ?
[07:13] <djembe> it says "off/any"
[07:13] <madman215> there is definately suposed to be the standard stuff scrolling across the screen imediately after i hit install right?
[07:13] <carpediem> djembe: hmmm
[07:14] <snide> No, I do know how to access taht .. Slavik but why am I having that kind of problem?
[07:14] <linux666> pip, no, you dont need your old partitions to reinstall ubuntu, but you will lose everything, so back it up.
[07:14] <slavik> snide: no idea ...
[07:14] <snide> Okay.
[07:14] <carpediem> djembe: try running the "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid myessid", then type "dmesg |tail" and see if you see any errors.
[07:14] <cwatson> I would like to use iptables to route all incoming traffic to sub.domain.com to a machine on the internal network. Is there a name for this?
[07:15] <BadKitty> looked like mabye two entries??
[07:15] <pip> linux666, OK,I want to use to old linux partitions to install the new ubuntu. after I configure them and to format,the installer said "you do not have root partition",but I did set '/' partition
[07:15] <djembe> carpediem: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[07:15] <cwatson> BadKitty: for beryl?
[07:15] <BadKitty> cwatson: looked like one for xorg and two for beryl? I'm not positive, maybe beryl has 2 entries naturally though?
[07:16] <carpediem> djembe: allright, try running "sudo ifdown wlan0" then, "sudo ifup wlan0"
[07:16] <cwatson> BadKitty: you want to paste them?
[07:16] <linux666> pip, did you set one partition for booting?
[07:16] <BadKitty> cwatson ( one says grep beryl, the other beryl --skip-gl-yield???
[07:16] <pip> linux666, I have double system installed, I do not want to lose windown partitions
[07:16] <djembe> carpediem: it is stuck on DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0...
[07:16] <carpediem> djembe: you can cancel with CTRL-C
[07:16] <pip> linux666, yes,I set a "/boot"
[07:17] <BadKitty> 1000      4736  0.5  3.5  69048 36392 ?        SL   21:01   0:24 beryl --skip-gl-yield
[07:17] <BadKitty> 1000     29652  0.0  0.0   2800   752 pts/0    R+   22:14   0:00 grep beryl
[07:17] <cwatson> BadKitty: thats fine, there is only one. the grep beryl is the command that you were running at the time
[07:17] <djembe> i had tried sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:17] <djembe> did something similar
[07:17] <linux666> pip, have you tried the alternate installer?
[07:17] <carpediem> djembe: yeah, same thing
[07:17] <linux666> alternate cd
[07:17] <pip> linux666, the problem is that the installer told me "no root partition specified"
[07:17] <BadKitty> cwatson: ok, yah maybe its just lying.. I'll be back in a bit thanks! AFK :-(
[07:17] <carpediem> djembe: okay, try setting the essid and see if dmesg shows the same error again
[07:17] <pip> linux666, which ?
[07:17] <cwatson> BadKitty: sure
[07:18] <djembe> carpediem: yep same error
[07:18] <linux666> pip, you can get alternate  cd for any version. you can get it for 6.06
[07:18] <carpediem> djembe: and nothing else relevant?  Sometimes the driver simply doesn't work with ndiswrapper, but you usually get more onery error messages than that.
[07:18] <pip> linux666, I dont know what alternate cd is
[07:19] <cwatson> I would like to route all incoming traffic to sub.domain.com to a machine on the internal network. Does anyone know the name for this?
[07:19] <linux666> pip, try google for this "no root partition specified" ubuntu
[07:19] <djembe> ok...IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver
[07:19] <aseveremercy> hey -- does anyone know what command i use to join a specific room?
[07:19] <pip> linux666, on my hand I got Drapper6.06 and Breezy5.10
[07:19] <djembe> ISO 9660 Extensions: MS Joliet level 3
[07:20] <carpediem> djembe: naw, those are unrelated.
[07:20] <cwatson> "/join #specific_room"
[07:20] <djembe> ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A
[07:20] <djembe> thats what i thought
[07:20] <carpediem> djembe: hmm, okay, what's the .inf filename?
[07:20] <djembe> hold on
[07:21] <carpediem> djembe: ndiswrapper -l will say it
[07:21] <djembe> with just dmesg i get some stuff with ndiswrapper
[07:21] <aseveremercy> ah -- thanks
[07:21] <carpediem> djembe: oh, okay
[07:21] <djembe> wlan0: ethernet device ###### using DNIS driver bcmwl5
[07:21] <djembe> wlan0 encryption modes supported: blah blah
[07:21] <djembe> so it seems to be loading
[07:22] <carpediem> djembe: interesting, I set that exact driver up this weekend on another computer.
[07:22] <carpediem> djembe: is it an Edgy system?
[07:22] <djembe> carpediem: the file was bcmwl5.inf
[07:22] <djembe> i downloaded directly from the HP site
[07:23] <djembe> i have used ndiswrapper before with no problems also on other PCs
[07:23] <djembe> yes it is edgy
[07:23] <djembe> fresh install
[07:23] <carpediem> djembe: hmm, I didn't run into problems.  It was the same driver, but for a PCI card in a desktop.
[07:23] <djembe> dude hold on a sec
[07:25] <djembe> <[07:25] <djembe> carpediem: it was the wireless button
[07:25] <carpediem> djembe: wrong driver?
[07:25] <djembe> no
[07:25] <carpediem> djembe: ahhh
[07:25] <djembe> the thing was i tried the button before and it never worked
[07:26] <djembe> i pressed it, the light came on
[07:26] <carpediem> djembe: interesting
[07:26] <djembe> thanks for the help
[07:26] <carpediem> djembe: np
[07:26] <djembe> later...have a good day
[07:26] <Some_Person> Is the theme in Edgy any different from the theme in Dapper?
[07:26] <raknam> what file server will provide the most user friend UI for a mac?
[07:26] <carpediem> Some_Person: yes
[07:27] <carpediem> Some_Person: certainly not radically different
[07:27] <Some_Person> Can I download the new theme and throw it on my Daapper?
[07:27] <raknam> by what file server i mean what type of file server
[07:27] <Some_Person> I don't care for Dapper'
[07:27] <Some_Person> s theme
[07:27] <raknam> ie samba for windows
[07:27] <carpediem> Some_Person: probably, but I haven't the foggiest idea how.
[07:28] <Some_Person> Can someone email it to me?
[07:29] <Some_Person> My email is [screened-out, i'll tell you in pm]
[07:30] <EvanCarroll> anyone know how to init hibernate from the command line?
[07:31] <snoogie> init or hyphenated EvanCarroll?
[07:31] <bigfuzzyjesus> i know -h
[07:31] <Some_Person> why would you do that?
[07:31] <bigfuzzyjesus> but thats to halt the system
[07:31] <snoogie> EvanCarroll: look in /etc/acpi/
[07:31] <snoogie> there has to be a script called hibernate.sh
[07:31] <Some_Person> i hate dapper's theme - especially the progress bar
[07:31] <snoogie> should work
[07:32] <Some_Person> it has verticle lines through it
[07:32] <EvanCarroll> snoogie: so there is no bin that manages power standby modes?
[07:32] <EvanCarroll> snoogie: I've used /proc/acpi before
[07:32] <dan14> hello all
[07:32] <dan14> has anyone had any luck setting up wireless in edgy?
[07:32] <EvanCarroll> snoogie: Found it, thanks.
[07:32] <snoogie> EvanCarroll: look at the shell script, I dont know what exactly manages the hibernation
[07:33] <carpediem> Some_Person: there's hundreds of gnome themes.  In Synaptic, try searching for "gtk engine" and installing some of them.
[07:34] <Some_Person> no internet in ubuntu
[07:34] <Motorhead> hi
[07:34] <Some_Person> damn modem driver isnt free
[07:34] <Some_Person> it costs $20
[07:34] <Motorhead> conexant?
[07:34] <Some_Person> yup
[07:34] <Motorhead> fuck those
[07:35] <Some_Person> i wish someone would create a free alternative driver
[07:35] <sargeantd> dan14: My Linksys WAP54PC card works in 6.10 Edgy
[07:35] <Motorhead> lol, theres a 14KB/s free version for that
[07:35] <Some_Person> i know
[07:35] <Some_Person> its not worth it
[07:36] <Some_Person> i could pop in my old smartlink modem sometime
[07:36] <snoogie> Some_Person: DSL Modem driver?!
[07:36] <yakumo> hello is there any program for ubuntu like IME on windows which allow me to have hiragana,katakana,kanji?
[07:36] <Some_Person> dialup
[07:37] <snoogie> Some_Person: dialup, hmmm
[07:37] <DBO> Motorhead, please lay off the swearing =)  family friendly and all that jazz
[07:37] <Some_Person> i hate that it isnt free
[07:37] <Motorhead> DBO: huh?
[07:38] <aldin> aldin@dapperson:~$ mysqladmin -h<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-u root -p password
[07:38] <carpediem> Motorhead: I think he's talking about the f-bomb you dropped a bit ago.
[07:38] <aldin> mysqladmin: connect to server at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>failed
[07:38] <aldin> error: 'Unknown MySQL server host<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(1)'
[07:38] <aldin> anyone knows whats problem
[07:38] <DBO> Motorhead, what carpediem said =)
[07:38] <Motorhead> carpediem: wtf
[07:38] <Some_Person> is there a free conexant modem driver by any chance>
[07:39] <carpediem> aldin: your host shouldn't have root@ in it.
[07:39] <Motorhead> lol
[07:39] <aldin> carpediem: i saw this command on ubuntuguide.org
[07:39] <aldin> carpediem: can u help me with this problem
[07:40] <aldin> carpediem:  what exactly should i do
[07:40] <carpediem> aldin: your host is "<IP_ADDRESS>" not<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:40] <Some_Person> is the ubuntu logo copyrighted?
[07:41] <Motorhead> DBO: sorry XD
[07:41] <DBO> Motorhead, just trying to let you know about the rules round here =)
[07:41] <aldin> carpediem: ?mysqladmin -h <IP_ADDRESS> -u root -p password this doesnt work too
[07:41] <Motorhead> DBO: ok =)
[07:41] <aldin> mysqladmin: connect to server at '<IP_ADDRESS>' failed
[07:41] <aldin> error: 'Lost connection to MySQL server during query'
[07:42] <Madpilot> Some_Person, trademarked, yes
[07:42] <carpediem> aldin: then its not running, try "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart"
[07:42] <Some_Person> but not copyrighted?
[07:42] <bitwiseshiftleft> hey, can anyone here help me with an ethernet bridge?  i set it up per instructions on http://linux-net.osdl.org/index.php/Bridge, and i can use the web from that machine, but I can't see it from the network
[07:42] <Some_Person> I need to know what copyright tag to use on Wikipedia for it
[07:42] <aldin> mysql     7185  0.1  6.5<PHONE_NUMBER>4 pts/1    Sl   07:08   0:03 /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid --skip-locking --port=3306 --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[07:43] <Madpilot> Some_Person, well, both.
[07:43] <aldin> carpediem: ? ist that it
[07:43] <carpediem> aldin: then you should be able to connect
[07:43] <aldin> ???
[07:43] <neocortex> Hi! Please, can someone help me: I have winmodem and sl-modem-daemon installed, which works fine, but after suspend & resume it isn't present anymore.
[07:43] <aldin> what should i do
[07:43] <carpediem> aldin: run the command you just ran before the one I gave you
[07:44] <Some_Person> But its GPL/GFLD/GNU stuff right?
[07:44] <carpediem> Some_Person: you mean this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ubuntu_Logo.svg
[07:44] <Some_Person> yes
[07:44] <Some_Person> and i'm uploading a smaller version with just the icon
[07:44] <aldin> carpediem: error: 'Unknown MySQL server host 'root@localhost' (1)'
[07:44] <Some_Person> and i need to now what tag to use
[07:45] <carpediem> aldin: not that one
[07:45] <Some_Person> Would {{GPL}} work do you think?
[07:45] <Madpilot> Some_Person, there is an official Ubuntu Trademark Policy, just trying to find the URL for you
[07:45] <aldin> carpediem:  mysqladmin: connect to server at '<IP_ADDRESS>' failed
[07:45] <Madpilot> Some_Person, no, it's not GPL'd
[07:45] <_3uG_> quick question: what's the best wireless security/protocol currently available?
[07:45] <Some_Person> well, {{logo}} doesnt look right
[07:46] <Some_Person> is it?
[07:46] <Madpilot> Some_Person, http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/TrademarkPolicy/
[07:46] <Madpilot> Some_Person, also, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official
[07:47] <carpediem> aldin: then I don't know what to say.  The command I had you run should start mysql.
[07:47] <carpediem> aldin: unless it gave you errors.
[07:47] <Some_Person> so {{logo}} would work then
[07:47] <carpediem> aldin: or said failed.
[07:47] <neocortex> Sorry, if I may ask again: does anybody has experience with winmodems and sl-modem-daemon?
[07:47] <aldin> carpediem: thanks in any case 4 helping
[07:47] <sephiron> anyone here use dell pc?
[07:47] <Madpilot> Some_Person, I'm not familiar w/ Wikipedia's classifications, but 'logo' sounds like the right one
[07:47] <carpediem> sephiron: sure, but that doesn't mean much
[07:48] <openix> aldin: is mysql actually starting?
[07:48] <K^Holtz> Hi guys, whats the command to find the external IP of your computer?
[07:48] <K^Holtz> i know you can go to sites.. but i cant find a command to type
[07:48] <sephiron> if i bought a dell pc,is it hard to change its hardware later?
[07:48] <barnetod> hey any c programmers in here?
[07:48] <carpediem> K^Holtz: ifconfig will tell you
[07:49] <barnetod> seph i changed a bunch of hardware on my dell laptop
[07:49] <sephiron> is it hard?
[07:49] <Hellavator> what is the command to unpack a .tar.gz archive?
[07:50] <_3uG_> tar -xzvf filename.tar.gz
[07:50] <_3uG_> (the v is optional, though)
[07:50] <K^Holtz> carpediem: that just tells the local ip
[07:50] <bitwiseshiftleft> barnetod: i know a bit of c
[07:50] <Hellavator> thanks
[07:50] <sephiron> you change it yourself?
[07:50] <barnetod> bit i need help with basic c
[07:50] <carpediem> K^Holtz: not really, but if you mean the IP beyond your lan, I just visit whatismyipaddress.com
[07:50] <barnetod> i did code for a program for school
[07:50] <bitwiseshiftleft> barnetod: k
[07:51] <barnetod> but getting a messed up result
[07:51] <barnetod> i have to input an integer 0-9 and have it display the word
[07:51] <K^Holtz> carpediem: that is what i mean... but its there a command to find it?
[07:51] <bitwiseshiftleft> barnetod: sure
[07:51] <barnetod> then assume that atleast one person will type in a character
[07:51] <barnetod> and display an error message
[07:51] <K^Holtz> isnt*
[07:51] <barnetod> now i have an error display on any number over 9 and under 0
[07:51] <bitwiseshiftleft> barnetod: ok.
[07:51] <barnetod> but a character generates your number is two message
[07:52] <bitwiseshiftleft> barnetod: huuuuh?
[07:52] <carpediem> K^Holtz: I've never heard of one.  Since that has to do with your router, very little to do with this computer itself, I doubt it.  you could cull it out of tracert
[07:52] <barnetod> yep :)
[07:52] <barnetod> thats where i am confused
[07:52] <bitwiseshiftleft> barnetod: no, i mean, your sentence doesn't parse
[07:52] <barnetod> oh
[07:52] <barnetod> when i type in a character 'a' it displays your number is two
[07:53] <barnetod> no matter which character i type in
[07:53] <barnetod> that is not a number
[07:53] <bitwiseshiftleft> sounds like a bug.  can't really help you without the source
[07:53] <barnetod> want the source?
[07:53] <barnetod> i have the source posted on cprogramming.com
[07:53] <bitwiseshiftleft> uh. sure, but don't paste it here, use one of those pastebot thingies
[07:53] <barnetod> if you would rather check that out
[07:54] <bitwiseshiftleft> barnetod: ok, link me
[07:54] <barnetod> see if this works
[07:54] <barnetod> http://cboard.cprogramming.com/showthread.php?t=85616
[07:55] <Hellavator> _3uG_ how do I tell tar to extract it to /opt
[07:55] <bitwiseshiftleft> barnetod: you need to check the result of scanf
[07:55] <bitwiseshiftleft> barnetod: if you don't send a character, it will fail
[07:56] <barnetod> hats the command to do that?
[07:56] <barnetod> i was going to try ,%c
[07:56] <barnetod> but it did nothing for me
[07:57] <bitwiseshiftleft> barnetod: the easiest way is to make an integer, and set it to the result of scanf, and check if it's zero
[07:57] <bitwiseshiftleft> if it's 1, then the person entered a number (but it might be more than one digit), if not, they didn't
[07:57] <barnetod> ok
[08:00] <barnetod> we will see how this works :)
[08:00] <bitwiseshiftleft> anyone know how to set up a wireless bridge under ubuntu?  i've crawled through the online howtos, and by following them i can get almost exactly nothing working
[08:01] <ReWT_AxS> how do i change permission of a folder?
[08:02] <bitwiseshiftleft> ReWT_AxS: chmod
[08:02] <CorpseFeeder> I'm trying to install something which needs OpenAL Audio Toolkit - I find libalut0 OpenAL Utility Toolkit in package manager - Is that the same thing?
[08:02] <ReWT_AxS> what option though
[08:02] <bitwiseshiftleft> how do you want to change its permissions?
[08:02] <ReWT_AxS> says it's read only
[08:02] <ReWT_AxS> i want to be able to write to it
[08:02] <ReWT_AxS> and do what i want to it
[08:02] <kathy> hello I have a question about doing an upgrade from Breezy to Dapper... can I just add the CD to the sources list, delete all the http entries, do an update/dist-upgrade ... i want to avoid everything that's on the CD from downloading from the net.
[08:03] <carpediem> kathy: when you insert the CD, it may ask you if you want to upgrade.
[08:04] <ReWT_AxS> bitwiseshiftleft, ?
[08:04] <ReWT_AxS> i forget the # to use
[08:04] <kathy> maybe it's just me.. but i can't get that to work
[08:04] <bitwiseshiftleft> ReWT_AxS: chmod u+w
[08:04] <sky123> ReWtAxS: the way the bits work are 4 - read 2 write and 1 execute and hence any combination of adding those sets permissions..so chmod 644 file...would give you rw(root),r(user),r(anyone).
[08:04] <ReWT_AxS> chmod 577 /file/name
[08:04] <carpediem> kathy: yeah, I don't think that it always works.
[08:05] <ReWT_AxS> still isnt working?
[08:05] <CorpseFeeder> is OpenAL Utility Toolkit the same thing as OpenAL Audio Toolit, or is Audio Toolkit part of OPenAL Utility Toolkit?
[08:05] <kathy> will it screw up packages if i do things that way?
[08:05] <bitwiseshiftleft> ReWT_AxS: what error are you getting
[08:06] <saik0> If a dir has group rwx permissions and user foo is in the group it's owned by than why cant foo write to it?
[08:06] <ReWT_AxS> error while copying to "/media/usbdisk/AUDIO"/ You do not have permissions to write to this folder.
[08:06] <pwmarcotte> hello
[08:07] <carpediem> kathy: honestly, I don't know.  But, it shouldn't hurt to try.  Comment out the dapper entries, don't remove them.  You eventually need to change the word dapper to edgy in all your sources.list entries.
[08:07] <pwmarcotte> i have question
[08:07] <bitwiseshiftleft> ReWT_AxS: who owns the folder?
[08:07] <ReWT_AxS> i dunno?
[08:07] <bitwiseshiftleft> pwmarcotte: ask it :-)
[08:07] <ReWT_AxS> howdo i check
[08:07] <bitwiseshiftleft> ReWT_AxS: ls -l
[08:07] <bitwiseshiftleft> er
[08:07] <bitwiseshiftleft> ls -ld
[08:08] <ReWT_AxS> drwx------ 6 rewt rewt 16384 1969-12-31 18:00
[08:08] <ReWT_AxS> me
[08:08] <ReWT_AxS> im rewt
[08:08] <ReWT_AxS> ?
[08:08] <kathy> thanks carpediem
[08:08] <pwmarcotte> i just installed edgy and for some reason my dvd drive is not being reading appropriately
[08:08] <TLE> obutu restricted
[08:09] <CryptoMole> HI ALL
[08:09] <ReWT_AxS> bitwiseshiftleft, any ideas?
[08:10] <CryptoMole> WHATS NEW W/ UBUNTU
[08:10] <TLE> !restrcited | TLE
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restrcited - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:10] <bitwiseshiftleft> ReWT_AxS: no idea
[08:10] <ReWT_AxS> arg
[08:10] <ReWT_AxS> anyone know?
[08:11] <bitwiseshiftleft> ReWT_AxS: try creating a file there?  like with touch?
[08:11] <pwmarcotte> the thing is i installed edge off a fresh iso i burned.  but i have been trying to watch a dvd in any media player and i can not, this is probably more of a begginers error but the help would be appriciated
[08:11] <defrysk> !resticted formats | pwmarcotte
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resticted formats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <ReWT_AxS> huh
[08:11] <defrysk> !restricted formats | pwmarcotte
[08:11] <ubotu> pwmarcotte: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:12] <carpediem> hah, apparently restricted is a hard work
[08:12] <defrysk> pfff
[08:12] <carpediem> err word
[08:12] <pwmarcotte> thank you, ill try there :)
[08:12] <defrysk> carpediem, very hard
[08:12] <defrysk> :s
[08:12] <defrysk> word is a hard work too yes
[08:12] <bitwiseshiftleft> ReWT_AxS: like, touch /that/directory/somefile
[08:12] <saik0> If a dir has group rwx permissions and user foo is in the group it's owned by than why cant foo write to it?
[08:12] <defrysk> ;p
[08:12] <carpediem> I know it
[08:13] <bitwiseshiftleft> saik0: does it have rwx permissions for owner?
[08:13] <ReWT_AxS> drwx------ 6 rewt rewt 16384 1969-12-31 18:00
[08:13] <ReWT_AxS> i got this now
[08:13] <ReWT_AxS> touch: setting times of `AUDIO/': Read-only file system
[08:13] <bitwiseshiftleft> ReWT_AxS: ah, that would be a problem
[08:13] <saik0> bitwiseshiftleft, yes
[08:13] <ReWT_AxS> ho do i make it a read and write file syate,?
[08:14] <bitwiseshiftleft> saik0: no idea then.
[08:14] <ReWT_AxS> system*
[08:14] <bitwiseshiftleft> ReWT_AxS: remount -o rw /path/to/AUDIO
[08:14] <bitwiseshiftleft> er
[08:14] <bitwiseshiftleft> mount -o rw /path/to/AUDIO
[08:14] <bitwiseshiftleft> or maybe it has to be -o remount,rw i don't remember
[08:15] <saik0> bitwiseshiftleft, yea it's confusing the crap out of me
[08:16] <bitwiseshiftleft> saik0: can user foo get there?  and is the filesystem mounted rw?
[08:16] <ReWT_AxS> bitwiseshiftleft, I'm getting.......can i pm you?
[08:16] <bitwiseshiftleft> ReWT_AxS: sure
[08:16] <saik0> bitwiseshiftleft it's 0775, and yea it's on an rw fs
[08:17] <murali> hi to all
[08:17] <bitwiseshiftleft> saik0: right, but does the parent dir have 440 set?
[08:17] <bitwiseshiftleft> saik0: (or is it 110? i can never remember these silly octal permissions)
[08:18] <bitwiseshiftleft> ReWT_AxS: i'm not getting any pms from you, but that might just be because i don't understand irssi
[08:18] <ReWT_AxS> lol then y use it?
[08:18] <saik0> bitwiseshiftleft, the parent is 755
[08:18] <bitwiseshiftleft> ReWT_AxS: because i'm lazy
[08:18] <ReWT_AxS> haha
[08:18] <saik0> (rwxr-xr-x)
[08:18] <spook74> Does anyone out there know if there is a fix for the inability of (k)ubuntu to shutdown the computer?  Since I upgraded from 6.4, it just hangs at the shutdown screen and does not shut off the box.
[08:18] <bitwiseshiftleft> saik0: yeah, still no idea
[08:19] <pluma_> What causes a harddrive to make ticking and clicking noises anyway? Read errors?
[08:20] <pluma_> I mean, it's getting worse and freezing my Windows box a lot, so I'll buy a new drive soon, but still... what part is damaged?
[08:20] <Healot> bad disk surface, overheated disk, broken head...
[08:20] <ReWT_AxS> can someone plesase help me
[08:20] <ReWT_AxS> -.-
[08:21] <saik0> bitwiseshiftleft, learned something new about shells....i had to start a new bash session after adding the user to the group
[08:22] <bitwiseshiftleft> saik0: ah.  that's new to me too
[08:22] <kamui> anyone know the name of that ide?  Code something
[08:22] <bitwiseshiftleft> ReWT_AxS: can you just unmount AUDIO and then mount it again with -o rw?
[08:22] <kamui> but not codeforge
[08:22] <kamui> or maybe it is codeforge
[08:22] <ReWT_AxS> i wanna try mounting it  without the usb thing bc i have an sd reader
[08:23] <ReWT_AxS> i get this in dmesg
[08:23] <ReWT_AxS> [17786295.492000]  tifm_7xx1: sd card detected in socket 3
[08:23] <ReWT_AxS> how do i mount it?
[08:23] <KenSentMe> How do i run a command (like apt-get) in english for once, instead of my own language?
[08:23] <Ekstreme> hiya all.
[08:23] <kamui> no, Codeblocks!
[08:23] <kamui> nevermind
[08:23] <bitwiseshiftleft> ReWT_AxS: type df to see where it's mounted
[08:23] <bitwiseshiftleft> ReWT_AxS: then unmount it, and mount it again rw
[08:24] <Ekstreme> Has anyone here managed to get TVTime to work with a Winfast DTV1000T DTV Tuner?
[08:24] <spook74> Does anyone out there know if there is a fix for the inability of (k)ubuntu to shutdown the computer?  Since I upgraded from 6.4, it just hangs at the shutdown screen and does not shut off the box.
[08:24] <ReWT_AxS> i dunno where to look in df
[08:24] <bitwiseshiftleft> ReWT_AxS: look in the Filesystem column
[08:24] <ReWT_AxS> i dunno which one
[08:25] <bitwiseshiftleft> and while we're reposting questions: can anyone here help me with network bridging, or bridging at all for that matter?
[08:25] <bitwiseshiftleft> er, by which i mean, wireless bridging, or bridging at all
[08:25] <bitwiseshiftleft> ReWT_AxS: the one with the right name in "mounted on"
[08:25] <ReWT_AxS> its never been mounted >.<
[08:25] <ReWT_AxS> start over
[08:25] <ReWT_AxS> forget i said anything about it
[08:25] <ReWT_AxS> now
[08:25] <ReWT_AxS> i put it in
[08:26] <ReWT_AxS> i check dmesg i get   [17786295.492000]  tifm_7xx1: sd card detected in socket 3
[08:26] <ReWT_AxS> but nothing else
[08:26] <ReWT_AxS> where do i mount it
[08:26] <bitwiseshiftleft> ReWT_AxS: no idea.  it doesn't, like, appear on your desktop or something?
[08:26] <ReWT_AxS> nope
[08:27] <bitwiseshiftleft> ReWT_AxS: well, i don't know how to fix sd card reader drivers... google for it or something
[08:28] <lullabud> ReWT_AxS:  sometimes messages appear in /var/log/messages and not in dmesg
[08:28] <kraut> moin
[08:28] <EMKO> what do i do after i get these 2 white squares on the screen? first time installing any linux :(
[08:29] <lullabud> EMKO:  two white squares doesn't sound right.
[08:29] <ReWT_AxS> Nov 20 01:25:14 ubuntu kernel: [17786511.876000]  tifm_7xx1: sd card detected in socket 3
[08:29] <ReWT_AxS> well wtf it worked in 6.06
[08:29] <murali> can u pls tell me how to change the mode of sudo?
[08:29] <lullabud> ReWT_AxS:  personally, i had a lot of things that worked in 6.06... which is why i'm not running 6.10 anymore.
[08:30] <murali> becoz unfortunately i tried to change it for write mode
[08:30] <lullabud> murali:  what do you mean?
[08:30] <lullabud> murali:  if you're using sudo you should be able to do anything.
[08:30] <murali> now im not able to su as sudo
[08:30] <murali> becoz the file permission is changed
[08:31] <rredd4> 6.10 is not stable like dapper
[08:31] <lullabud> murali:  what is the command you're issuing?
[08:31] <ReWT_AxS> so far edgy sucks
[08:31] <TLE> Hey I was wondering about the totem-xine totem-gstreamer thing. Ubuntu comes with totem-gstreamer installed yet most places you look totem-xine is recommended as "the better" engine. What's the deal here ?
[08:31] <ReWT_AxS> 1/2 my shit doesnt work anymore
[08:31] <crimsun> TLE: popular but misguided misconception
[08:31] <lullabud> ReWT_AxS:  sometimes upgrading to the latest means departing from the greatest.
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> ReWT_AxS: language please
[08:32] <murali> chmod 440
[08:32] <EMKO> so this wount work on my computer because after the 2 white squares it does nothing ?
[08:32] <Madpilot> EMKO, is this on the install CD, or the Live CD?
[08:32] <murali> now when ever i tried to sudo su
[08:33] <TLE> crimsun: really, ok I'm gonna try keeping gstreamer this time
[08:33] <Admiral_Chicago> EMKO: two white squares?
[08:33] <murali> it says it shd be 660
[08:33] <Madpilot> murali, no need for 'sudo su' - just use sudo...
[08:33] <EMKO> my friend gave me the disc
[08:33] <EMKO> it says <IP_ADDRESS> LTS
[08:33] <Admiral_Chicago> yes.
[08:33] <murali> madpilot:ok
[08:33] <murali> i try
[08:33] <Admiral_Chicago> that is a Dapper drake CD
[08:33] <crimsun> TLE: are the appropriate gstreamer0.10-plugins\* packages also installed?
[08:34] <Madpilot> EMKO, so you put the CD in, does it get to the first menu, with 'Run/install Ubuntu' at the top?
[08:34] <EMKO> yes i pressed that
[08:34] <TLE> crimsun: No not yet but it was looking at the multimedia page that ubotu told me about, I think it's on there
[08:34] <Madpilot> EMKO, further down that 1st menu, there's a "Check this CD" entry - run that
[08:35] <TLE> crimsun: I just thought it was wierd because even Easy Ubuntu offers to replace it
[08:35] <EMKO> ok i will give that a try
[08:37] <EMKO> so it could be a bad CD?
[08:38] <Madpilot> EMKO, it could be, yes. Is it a pressed official CD, or a home-burned one?
[08:38] <EMKO> official CD
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago> Madpilot: when you check the CD for errors does it do a checksum?
[08:39] <Madpilot> Admiral_Chicago, it does some sort of checksum, yeah. I don't know all the technical details.
[08:40] <Admiral_Chicago> okay i thought it might just wasn't sure
[08:40] <zOrK> all the broadcom wireless cards works with bcmwl5.inf ?
[08:41] <sky123> z0rK: not necessarily no.
[08:41] <zOrK> hell
[08:41] <sky123> z0rK: I had one from Acer that i tried and it wouldnt work
[08:42] <sky123> Z0rK: I had to go searching for one.. and it worked for me
[08:42] <zOrK> did you tryr with two different acer wireless cards?
[08:42] <zOrK> two different models?
[08:42] <sky123> z0rK: well my laptop is a gateway..and this one worked
[08:43] <sky123> z0rk:  WL_T60H906(<IP_ADDRESS>,XP64_logo)
[08:43] <sky123> z0rk: it was for my amd 64 laptop
[08:43] <DanaG> argh.
[08:43] <DanaG> ndiswrapper source package is missing the debian/control file.
[08:43] <zOrK> there was a doc out there from a bug on broadcom wireless cards in ubuntu?
[08:43] <zOrK> ? broadcom
[08:44] <sky123> z0rK: yes
[08:44] <anilomkar> hi all, can anyone tell me how to install gaim guification plugin?
[08:44] <zOrK> sky123  do you remember the url?
[08:44] <DanaG> My ipw3945 won't do WPA in Linux, so I was pondering trying ndiswrapper.
[08:44] <DanaG> But, I can't compile the ndiswrapper modules.
[08:44] <sky123> i remember that article...something about NOT using the bcm-fwcutter pacakge as it didnt always work on bcm4318 stuff
[08:44] <barnetod> danag
[08:44] <barnetod> i got a great site for you
[08:44] <barnetod> hold on okay?
[08:45] <sky123> DanaG: did you try the stock ndiswrapper that comes with ubuntu or were you trying to compile from source
[08:45] <DanaG> I'm using a custom kernel.
[08:45] <sky123> ahh.. i see
[08:46] <barnetod> you load the supplicant yet?
[08:46] <sky123> DanaG: you have the kernel-headers for the custom kernel ??
[08:46] <DanaG> Yeah.
[08:46] <zOrK> anyone remember that webpage which had a doc about the bug on broadcom wireless cards and how to fix it?
[08:46] <DanaG> The debian/control file that's missing is the one in the modules/ndiswrapper dir.
[08:46] <zOrK> it was on wikiubuntu
[08:46] <zOrK> if i am right..
[08:46] <zOrK> i cant find anything though.
[08:46] <sky123> z0rK: what in particular is broken ??
[08:47] <zOrK> i am programming a patch
[08:47] <zOrK> but I can't find that doc!
[08:47] <barnetod> if i werent on windows i have the bookmarked saved
[08:47] <barnetod> for the easy install guide of the pain in the ass card :)
[08:47] <barnetod> tried this?
[08:48] <barnetod> in terminal /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant start
[08:48] <barnetod> sudo wpa_cli to see if it is working
[08:48] <DanaG> There's only /etc/init.d/wpa-ifupdown
[08:48] <DanaG> no wpasupplicant.
[08:48] <sky123> it is a pain... but.. finding the right one is the key
[08:48] <seamus7> Hi ... I had been having display problems after upgrading to Edgy ... but I just reconfigured xorg by going from 24 to 16 color depth ... but my screen resolutions are not what I'd like ... any help out there?
[08:49] <sky123> z0rK: does the thing just "flutter" or point blank not even come up
[08:49] <Admiral_Chicago> seamus7: what's your card?
[08:49] <sky123> bcm43xx...HEY BROADCOM...HOW about a linux driver that works!! ??
[08:49] <barnetod> danag
[08:49] <barnetod> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=286188&page=2&highlight=intel+3945
[08:49] <barnetod> try that
[08:50] <barnetod> sky i havent even bothered with my broadcom
[08:50] <seamus7> Admiral_Chicago: intel 82815 CGC
[08:50] <sky123> just pain in the ass.
[08:50] <floating> sky123: ye I would like to use linux but I can't since I only have wlan and bc43xx
[08:50] <barnetod> i went through the boot up windows save websites to a jump drive and all tarballs lol
[08:50] <Admiral_Chicago> can you paste you xorg
[08:50] <barnetod> rather than mess with finding a bc driver worth a crap
[08:50] <Admiral_Chicago> xorg.conf
[08:50] <djembe> did you try ndiswrapper with the broadcom?
[08:50] <floating> I tried
[08:50] <sky123> floating,z0rK: the post i made before with -  WL_T60H906(<IP_ADDRESS>,XP64_logo) works
[08:50] <Admiral_Chicago> actually don't give me a second
[08:50] <floating> tried with 3 different manager programs too
[08:50] <seamus7> Admiral_Chicago: where do I paste it in XChat?
[08:51] <shorthorns> what exactly is an ndiswrapper?
[08:51] <Admiral_Chicago> seamus7: no not yet, hold on
[08:51] <sky123> floating,z0rK: that is for some reason different than what is posted in the wiki..
[08:51] <sky123> floating,z0rK: maybe give that a whirl??
[08:51] <Admiral_Chicago> seamus7: taka a look at this link
[08:51] <Admiral_Chicago> http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-upgrade-common-problems-with-solutions.html
[08:51] <djembe> ndiswrapper uses the windows drivers for the wireless card
[08:51] <floating> where sky123 ?
[08:52] <sky123> ndiswrapper...uses windows inf file
[08:52] <bobbie__4> Howcome Ubuntu freezes on CD-ROM errors?
[08:52] <shorthorns> djembe, thnx
[08:52] <barnetod> i just loaded my drivers directly from intel
[08:52] <seamus7> Admiral_Chicago: ok thanks
[08:52] <sky123> floating:  WL_T60H906(<IP_ADDRESS>,XP64_logo)...see if you can find that on google..then download it...unzip it and use that inf file
[08:52] <sky123> for your bcm43xx
[08:52] <floating> with ndiswrapper I couldn't get a light on, but with this special native driver I got it on, everything seem to be good until dhcp should give me ip
[08:53] <Admiral_Chicago> it may be the xserver-xorg if anything
[08:53] <sky123> floating:okay...that is where i used the networkmanager tool..that fixed all.
[08:53] <DanaG> The odd thing is that NetworkManager says 'timeout authenticating to 00:00:00:00:00:00
[08:53] <floating> network manager likes to hang the whole OS, wifi-radar and connection manager just won't give the ip
[08:53] <barnetod> you know whats sad
[08:54] <barnetod> it is easier to set up my card in linux than windows
[08:54] <shorthorns> Can anyone make a suggestion concerning a usb-dvb-stick(painless installing, using, etc...)?
[08:54] <djembe> try the command "iwconfig wlan0 essid your_network"
[08:54] <lullabud> barnetod:  i don't understand at all how that's sad.
[08:54] <lullabud> :P
[08:54] <barnetod> lol lullabad :) windows is supposedly point and click
[08:54] <barnetod> haha
[08:54] <djembe> whwere wlan0 is your network card
[08:54] <djembe> might be eth1 or something
[08:54] <lullabud> barnetod:  hmm... i though that was mac.... ;-)
[08:54] <floating> but... do you think I shld look for or try another driver if I have got a driver that lights on the card, and can scan the APs and such (but just cant get ip) or is the problem elsewhere ?
[08:55] <RobNyc> !beryl
[08:55] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:55] <sky123> floating:  okay...i had that happen with a linux driver bcm-fwcutter but when i switched back to the ndiswrapper and network manager...no issues.
[08:55] <kamui> im having some trouble with the psp SDk.  I can use it fine at the console, but when I launch my codeblocks gui ide from the menu, the custom path I added tot he pspsdk tools isn't initialized, so the makefile files to build.  How to I add PATH statements globally to the system so that when I log in using GDM those path statements are executed/added?
[08:55] <lullabud> barnetod:  seriously though, that's the power of open standards.  when people use them, they work so easily.
[08:55] <barnetod> lulla i have a bad experience with macs
[08:55] <barnetod> yep lulla
[08:55] <lullabud> barnetod:  which is why IE has ruined web development.
[08:55] <barnetod> i forced my dad to make the switch
[08:55] <floating> sky123, then I should try
[08:55] <Admiral_Chicago> barnetod: couldn't right click?
[08:55] <barnetod> haha admiral hardly man
[08:55] <sky123> floating: try the one i posted earlier..
[08:55] <barnetod> it causes winsock errors left and right
[08:56] <barnetod> freezes all wireless printers
[08:56] <peanutb> how do i tunnel vnc over ssh?
[08:56] <sky123> floating: and make sure you black list the bcm43xx
[08:56] <barnetod> then i load up ubuntu and im good :)
[08:56] <floating> 64-bit driver ?
[08:56] <sky123> yes\
[08:56] <lullabud> peanutb:  you can do it with -D to make a socks proxy, but more frequently -L 5900:remotevnchost:5900 is used.
[08:56] <djembe> floating: so you can connect to an AP?
[08:56] <floating> yep I can
[08:56] <djembe> just no IP address?
[08:56] <sky123> floating: what laptop
[08:56] <lullabud> peanutb:  i do that all the time from my mac...  =O !!!
[08:56] <floating> djembe yep
[08:57] <kamui> anyone?  How can I add to my sytemwide path variable to ensure that apps run inside of gnome can be run
[08:57] <peanutb> lullabud, could you explain it less technically?
[08:57] <floating> japanese sotec laptop with japanese only card I think
[08:57] <djembe> did you try "sudo dhclient eth1" or whatever your wireless card ID is?
[08:57] <qqq> Hello all, I am sitting here with my students (14years old) and show them irc. Could somebody please say hello so they see how it works.
[08:57] <sky123> floating: might be the same.. card in mine..give it a try
[08:57] <lullabud> peanutb:  say host C is accessible from host B, but not A
[08:57] <wickedpuppy> hello qqq
[08:57] <floating> I ve tried that, it just tries DHCPDISCOVER for few times and then no DHCPOFFERS received
[08:58] <lullabud> peanutb:  from host A, you ssh -L 5900:ip.address.of.host.C:5900<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:58] <lullabud> peanutb:  then you VNC to your localhost, <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:58] <qqq> thx wickedpuppy
[08:58] <lullabud> peanutb:  this will actually connect you to host C.
[08:58] <djembe> and "iwconfig" says that you are connected to an AP?
[08:58] <floating> yea
[08:58] <peanutb> lullabud, how would i set this up then?
[08:58] <lullabud> peanutb:  simply open VNC on host C and ssh on host B.
[08:58] <floating> are there some particular log files that might hive hints?
[08:58] <peanutb> lullabud, ok i think i got it.
[08:59] <floating> or any idea is welcome
[08:59] <lullabud> floating:  you can sniff dhcp traffic in a readable form with arpwatch
[08:59] <lullabud> floating:  i've also had more luck with `pump` than `dhclient`
[08:59] <floating> pump, never heard of that.. hmm
[09:00] <lullabud> peanutb:  there are lots of articles out there about how to do ssh tunneling using both of the methods i described.  finding them is as easy as googling for "ssh tunnel" or "ssh -D" or "ssh -L"
[09:01] <sky123> hey guys...im working on a sparc box and when i try to boot the system up i get a "Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init" anyone know how to solve this??
[09:01] <carpediem> floating: does everything look good when you do "iwconfig"?
[09:01] <floating> carpediem: yep
[09:01] <qqq> kenn na uns help
[09:01] <carpediem> floating: does it show the correct essid?