[12:28] <Mithrandir> fabbione: do you remember Ben's nick?
[12:30] <jbailey> Which ben?
[12:30] <Mithrandir> Leslie.
[12:30] <Mithrandir> seems it should be benno
[12:30] <Mithrandir> but he's not on now, or something
[02:27] <zul> yellow
[02:28] <kylem> blue
[02:28] <zul> green
[02:28] <kylem> new system of a down is good btw, zul.
[02:28] <zul> oh hell yes
[02:28] <zul> new nine inch nails not that great
[02:28] <kylem> it's not bad.
[02:28] <kylem> i like it better than most of the fragile.
[02:28] <zul> i like the fragile better
[02:30] <zul> do you have all of the new s.o.a.d?
[02:30] <kylem> yessir.
[02:30] <zul> ummm...gimme :)
[02:30] <kylem> it's on torrentspy
[02:30] <zul> hmmm..
[02:31] <dilinger> i haven't listened to the new nin yet
[02:31] <dilinger> stupid moving..
[02:31] <kylem> dilinger, where'd you move to?
[02:31] <dilinger> nyc
[02:32] <kylem> ah.
[02:32] <dilinger> well, i haven't actually moved
[02:32] <dilinger> i've already started work
[02:32] <kylem> who're you working for now?
[02:32] <dilinger> just crashing at a friend's house
[02:32] <dilinger> athenacr.com
[02:32] <kylem> ah right, you mentioned that before.
[02:32] <dilinger> i need to find someplace to live w/in the next few days
[02:33] <zul> ymca? :)
[02:33] <dilinger> heh
[02:34] <zul> ditch?
[02:34] <zul> sorry...im in a mean mood..
[02:34] <kylem> heh.
[02:34] <dilinger> ditches don't have internet access
[02:34] <dilinger> that's important
[02:34] <kylem> i have 2hours of commute a day.
[02:34] <kylem> and the bus was full
[02:34] <zul> not unless you have wireless
[02:35] <kylem> and this really fat woman (like 2 metres circumference) got on.
[02:35] <dilinger> 1 hour each way?
[02:35] <kylem> and all i could think is, if she asks me to let her sit down, i'm going to say her weight is her problems, not mine.
[02:35] <zul> kylem: where are you like cumberland or something?
[02:35] <dilinger> heh
[02:35] <kylem> zul, no.
[02:35] <kylem> zul, ottawa south to merivale/amberwood.
[02:35] <dilinger> some huge guy sat next to me on the subway
[02:35] <dilinger> he smelled pretty bad
[02:36] <dilinger> i'm sitting there reading, and he keeps inching closer to me
[02:36] <dilinger> i keep inching away
[02:36] <zul> kylem: heh..try by alcatel
[02:36] <dilinger> he inches closer
[02:36] <dilinger> my stop didn't come fast enough
[02:36] <kylem> haha.
[02:37] <zul> i cant stand crowded buses
[02:37] <kylem> me either.
[02:38] <kylem> today sucked because merivale was three times busier than normal.
[02:38] <zul> especially when people start to nod off next to you
[02:39] <zul> with their mouth open and they either a start to snore b drool
[02:39] <kylem> haha.
[02:40] <zul> that happens too much
[02:45] <zul> heh...i thought that said anemaholi
[02:45] <zul> anemaholic
[02:46] <zul> not sure :)
[02:46] <T-Bone> some kind of l33t spelling? :)
[02:46] <T-Bone> missa french, sees you?
[02:47] <T-Bone> how sweet
[02:47] <zul> you bet
[02:47] <T-Bone> you're the fighty type, right?   Makes you wonder, indeed? ;)
[03:03] <kylem> is this what you use all the disk arrays ggg sends you? 8)
[03:03] <T-Bone> foolishness on my side was to start cataloging *after* burning all that
[03:04] <T-Bone> oh no. They wouldn't be able to hold half of that
[03:04] <T-Bone> ;)
[03:04] <T-Bone> actually, they could hold my music collection. But that's another story 8)
[03:04] <kylem> damn.
[03:05] <kylem> well, did it all come from your cd collection?
[03:06] <T-Bone> of course... 8)
[03:06] <T-Bone> i hold a music store, don't you know? 8)
[03:06] <kylem> i'm confused now.
[03:07] <T-Bone> hehe
[03:07] <T-Bone> hmmm
[03:07] <T-Bone> the maths don't do
[03:08] <T-Bone> all my CD collection would actually represent about 1/8th of my "lossely compressed" collection ;)
[03:08] <T-Bone> now try to guess the numbers
[03:08] <T-Bone> i'll pay you a beer if you find in less than 3 tries 8)
[03:09] <T-Bone> (hint: i'm assuming 50MB/album)
[03:09] <kylem> i don't think i want to know.
[03:09] <T-Bone> lol
[03:10] <T-Bone> that's one less beer for you ;)
[03:10] <kylem> i'll live.
[03:10] <T-Bone> i hope so!
[03:11] <T-Bone> at least till OLS. Then you can do whatever you want with your life, once we'll have met ;)
[03:11] <kylem> hah.
[03:11] <T-Bone> lol
[03:17] <T-Bone> kylem: how's AD1889 going? :)
[03:18] <zul> T-Bone: so are you going to OLS?
[03:19] <kylem> T-Bone, too busy working
[03:19] <kylem> too tired to do shit when i get home
[03:21] <zul> kylem: you're right its pretty good
[03:23] <kylem> violent pornography is definitely the best tune on it
[03:24] <zul> b.y.o.b is pretty good as well
[03:32] <T-Bone> zul: i hope so
[03:32] <T-Bone> zul: it's not decided yet
[03:32] <T-Bone> mostly a budget issue
[03:33] <T-Bone> i'm trying to find a sponsor, because a 1500+ US$ week isn't quite something i can afford :P
[03:34] <kylem> you better find one 8)
[03:34] <T-Bone> yeah i really hope so. Things didn't quite work out as first expected
[03:39] <T-Bone> kylem: i've got a few things on my todo list but AD1889 is there too. I'll try to give it a shot soon. Need to look at that sucky AEC62xxx ide driver that prevent me from booting my machine, now that i've upgraded to hoary :P
[03:39] <kylem> heh.
[03:39] <kylem> i don't think it's a priority.
[03:39] <kylem> "it works... more or less"
[03:39] <T-Bone> what is a priority, anyway? 8)
[03:39] <kylem> i've given it the "works for me" stamp of approval.
[03:39] <kylem> until someone sends me a machine that it's broken on, it's SEP. 8)
[03:40] <T-Bone> made it work in ALSA mode?\
[03:40] <kylem> no.
[03:40] <T-Bone> so it doesn't really work :)
[03:40] <kylem> heh.
[03:40] <kylem> in the eye of the beholder.
[03:40] <T-Bone> hehe
[04:48] <zul> night..
[07:20] <fabbione> morning
[07:20] <fabbione> Mithrandir: yeah i saw him here once as benno
[07:24] <dilinger> shit
[07:24] <dilinger> fabio's awake
[07:24] <fabbione> hey dilinger
[07:24] <dilinger> i'm up late again
[07:24] <fabbione> ehhee
[07:25] <fabbione> :)
[07:26] <fabbione> dilinger: you said you had a sparc that i could use as buildd
[07:26] <fabbione> now that ports.u.c is up we can do it :)
[07:26] <dilinger> cool
[07:26] <dilinger> yea, it's at my house
[07:26] <dilinger> old house
[07:27] <fabbione> oh ok
[07:27] <dilinger> i'll be moving it as soon as i find a new home
[07:27] <fabbione> when do you plan to relocate it?
[07:27] <dilinger> well.. asap, since i'm kind of living w/ friends in nyc right now
[07:27] <fabbione> ok, than i guess it's easier to wait that you relocate first
[07:30] <dilinger> yea
[07:31] <dilinger> my life's going to be hectic for the next two weeks :/
[07:31] <fabbione> yeah take it easy.. we can live without the buildd...
[07:31] <fabbione> but not without you
[07:32] <dilinger> heh :)
[07:35] <Mithrandir> hi fabio
[07:37] <fabbione> hey Mith
[03:53] <zul> heylo
[07:17] <zul> hey you
[07:17] <zul> saw your ugly mug..
[07:18] <zul> can hunt you down now :)
[07:21] <jbailey> Eh?
[07:24] <zul> several pictures of you from udu
[07:55] <jbailey> Oh dear. =)
[07:56] <zul> yeah...now i can use gimp and make funny pictures out of it
[07:59] <jbailey> Oh joy.
[07:59] <jbailey> Maybe you can make me a hackergotchi
[08:02] <jbailey> Anyone have a copy of ISO C99 handy?
[08:03] <jbailey> The machine with it on it at home appears to be turned off.
[08:04] <jbailey> Hmm, google says that long long is C99.
[08:04] <jbailey> *sigh*
[08:10] <fabbione> jbailey: more l-k-h problems?
[08:11] <jbailey> fabbione: Yeah, in this case it's people wanting long long to be available in C99 mode. =)
[08:11] <jbailey> It's conditionalised away with __STRICT_ANSI__ right now.
[08:11] <zul> agh
[08:11] <jbailey> Or rather, various long long types.
[08:12] <zul> meh...im already getting users telling me to update drivers
[08:12] <zul> for breezy
[08:12] <jbailey> fabbione: There really haven't been that many of them.
[08:13] <jbailey> fabbione: Or at least, it's less work than drow had to go through to get the first set of them done to be cleaned up for userspace.
[08:13] <jbailey> fabbione: And at least this round will be coordinating between more than one distro.
[08:15] <fabbione> there is still some borkage
[08:15] <fabbione> util-linux shows one of them
[08:15] <jbailey> Ah?  I'll take a look.
[08:15] <jbailey> The lvm2 one wasn't lkh breakage.
[08:15] <fabbione> yeah i recog that
[08:16] <jbailey> Err..  last few util-linux uploads have all been succesful.
[08:16] <fabbione> not on sparc
[08:17] <jbailey> Is there any way you can get sparc failures listed on lamont's build pages?
[08:17] <fabbione> jbailey: nope...
[08:17] <jbailey> Sparc is losing out in this case from simple "out of sight, out of mind"
[08:17] <fabbione> but you have imap access to the inbox with all the failures
[08:17] <fabbione> umount.c:43: error: static declaration of 'umount2' follows non-static declaration
[08:17] <fabbione>  /usr/include/sys/mount.h:115: error: previous declaration of 'umount2' was here
[08:17] <jbailey> Yeah, I just need to train myself to look there.
[08:18] <fabbione> if i get the time i will see if i can push the logs on people
[08:18] <jbailey> Well, the imap server ought to be enough, I just need to dig out my logs for the user/pass and add it to evolution and then remember to look there when the number goes up.
[08:19] <fabbione> i did send you user/pass via email
[08:19] <jbailey> Right, email not irc logs.
[08:19] <jbailey> I know that I got it from you, but I don't have it setup on my laptop.
[08:20] <fabbione> ehehe
[08:20] <jbailey> And I won't be home yet for another week or so.
[08:22] <fabbione> jbailey: want me to resend the info?
[08:23] <jbailey> Shouldn't need to, I can get to my home stored email.
[08:40] <zul> yay bye bye warnings
[08:59] <jbailey> Anyone know if 2.6.12 will have sysfs support for ieee1394?
[09:07] <zul> it should ill go check
[09:08] <jbailey> Tx. 2.6.10 didn't, and I had to add a workaround to udev for it.
[09:08] <zul> actually i believe it
[09:09] <zul> yes it does..confirmed
[09:09] <zul>  sysfs_remove_link(&dev->kobj, "irm_id");
[09:10] <jbailey> Nice, thanks.
[09:10] <zul> no probs
[09:25] <zul> later
[10:05] <lamont> fabbione: let me ponder how to get the sparc logs into buildLogs...
[10:20] <jbailey> lamont: Cool, then I won't feel bad about poking for the same treatment of hppa. =)
[10:21] <jbailey> lamont: Oh, and "Yar to the damned chroot" re: postfix, and smtp auth. =)
[10:22] <lamont> jbailey: yeah - I have in mind a patch to move the SASL stuff into a separate daemon or something
[10:24] <lamont> jbailey: that's the part where I need to come up with some reasonable and rational method for it that doesn't involve letting spam in...


[06:26] <johk_> waveform, morning
[06:27] <johk_> waveform, is there a bugreport that I can follow for news on the topic?


[02:12] <twb> I notice the 10.04 d-i geoip thing is still detecting Australia/Victoria, where my timezone should be Australia/Melbourne.
[02:12] <twb> I thought that was a server-side fix...
[02:14] <twb> Hum, it looks like there is an Australia/Victoria in tzdata, it just isn't mentioned in the manual timezone picker.  So I'll let it use Australia/Victoria and see if it Just Works.
[02:15] <twb> Incidentally, my DHCP server advertises the timezone as Australia/Melbourne (RFC 4833), but d-i didn't pick up on that...
[11:06] <CIA-4> debian-installer: cjwatson * r1381 ubuntu/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
[11:06] <CIA-4> debian-installer: * Backport from trunk:
[11:06] <CIA-4> debian-installer:  - geniso_hybrid_plus_firmware_partition: Cope if the disk size exceeds
[11:06] <CIA-4> debian-installer:  32MB. (The previous code seems to have misunderstood isohybrid's
[11:06] <CIA-4> debian-installer:  defaults slightly, but we now just specify the full CHS geometry
[11:06] <CIA-4> debian-installer:  explicitly in case anything changes in the future.)
[11:08] <CIA-4> debian-installer: cjwatson * r1382 ubuntu/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Move to 2.6.37-4 kernels.
[11:23] <ev> cjwatson: usb-creator symlink> done
[11:40] <cjwatson> ta
[13:54] <superm1> ev, so the usb-creator windows frontend is functional atm?
[13:56] <ev> it was last I checked.  I plan to try and improve it alongside other changes to usb-creator this cycle.
[14:07] <davmor2> ev: m-a just failed on a whole drive install with a 141 error,  but it should of been triggered should it?
[14:09] <ev> well, it will always partially run, but it most certainly shouldn't be shown
[14:09] <ev> davmor2: can you please file a bug from a --debug run of ubiquity that produces the crash
[14:10] <davmor2> ev: if I get enough time no worries.  mid releases currently
[14:13] <ev> understood, thanks
[14:35] <davmor2> Meh it hates ATI's hdmi subsystem
[18:08] <ev> cjwatson: I don't suppose you'd be willing to make a trip into Millbank so we can do some long-term Wubi planning with Alejandra on Friday the 26th?
[18:20] <cjwatson> provisionally I think that's OK, is that a day when Scott and James are in?
[18:21] <CIA-4> debian-installer: cjwatson * r1383 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20101020ubuntu2
[18:28] <ev> oh, probably
[18:29] <ev> I'll check with Scott now
[18:29] <ev> and send an invite to you for the day
[18:58] <cjwatson> yup, K can't think of anything on that day so I think I'm clear
[21:52] <devildante> are there any plans to separate the timezone bit of ubiquity into a separate library? it seems we need it for the datetime indicator settings window (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeAndDate)
[21:53] <devildante> (it seems "it is needed", not "we need it")
[21:55] <cjwatson> ev: ^- your call I think ...
[21:56]  * cjwatson notes ev is in the same office as the guy who wrote that comment on the wiki and is probably aware of it already