[14:53] <Dave-Maydew> So I'll blog about that and let others know about it
[14:53] <samuel> Linuxx iis based on 13 I believe
[14:53] <cfhowlett> rundll32 if it's in the repos, yes
[14:53] <dw1> Dave-Maydew: awesome... bookmark this i guess https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/868233
[14:53] <Guest69992> salsero|2: 13.10 to 14.04
[14:53] <Dave-Maydew> thanks dwl
[14:53] <salsero|2> Guest69992: switch mirror
[14:53] <Lizards|Work> could anybody tell me how to upgrade 13.10 to 14.04 using the 14.04 desktop ISO without making a bootable?
[14:54] <dw1> Dave-Maydew: glad it worked out
[14:54] <cfhowlett> !install|Lizards|Work
[14:54] <niko> /43/114
[14:54] <bekks> Lizards|Work: Why dont you just use do-release-upgrade?
[14:54] <Dave-Maydew> I can see why I moved in 09 to Ubuntu, the community is great
[14:54] <salsero|2> maybe no internet
[14:54] <whiskers75> I'm now on 14.04! \o/
[14:54] <Lizards|Work> because i downloaded the ISO already and i was looking to cut out the middle man
[14:54] <dw1> Dave-Maydew: they should be payin me :P
[14:54] <salsero|2> use the cd as repository
[14:54] <thiebaude> Lizards|Work, can you you unetbootin?
[14:54] <Dave-Maydew> this is the first time I've had to ask a question and you guys are great
[14:54] <Reptilia> I've installed Xubuntu 14.04 on my laptop (HP Compaq nx 8220), but i can't make the hardware switch for the wireless card to work. When i run "rfkill list all", the output is: Soft blocked:No, Hard Blocked: Yes. How do i fix this? Thanks in advance.
[14:54] <whiskers75> and it looks ugly
[14:55] <darthanubis> anyone noticed double clicking titlebar for eindow rollup results in a disappeared window, with only the outline showing?
[14:55] <dw1> Dave-Maydew: yeah lot of helpful people here
[14:55] <salsero|2> Dave-Maydew: ^_^
[14:55] <Lizards|Work> i can do do-release-upgrade, but i was hoping it'd be like the old alternate install disks
[14:55] <Dave-Maydew> I've helped over 90 Windows users over to Ubuntu over the last couple of years too
[14:55] <Dave-Maydew> and I'm still bringing them over
[14:55] <bekks> Lizards|Work: the alternate isos are gone. Just use do-release-upgrade
[14:55] <thiebaude> Dave-Maydew, awesome man
[14:55] <thiebaude> :)
[14:55] <Lizards|Work> maaan that's way less awesome than using the ISO from a mounted loop device
[14:56]  * psusi is disappointed that you can't do that any more either
[14:56] <effeietsanders> I have a fresh Ubuntu 14.4 install on an PB EasyNote MV46-015. When I try to shut it down, it freezes at some point during shutdown. Rebooting works OK. Changing the boot sequence with acpi=off results in crashing during the boot.
[14:56] <brut3f0rc3> Dave-Meydew: Awesome work man :)
[14:56] <Dave-Maydew> I'm a amateur radio operator, and the guys at the radio club have nicknamed me Pingu
[14:56] <darthanubis> can anyone reproduce for me?
[14:56] <Dave-Maydew> :)
[14:56] <rundll32>  can use yast to install deb packages?
[14:56] <brut3f0rc3> anyone used apt-fast in 14.04?
[14:56] <cfhowlett> darthanubis ummm, what?
[14:57] <ikonia> kpom
[14:57] <ikonia> oops, sorry
[14:57] <thiebaude> ikonia, hello there
[14:57] <noiro_> if I burned a 14.04 beta Xubuntu CD, when I apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade, will it pull me past beta to full version?
[14:57] <cfhowlett> rundll32 no
[14:57] <cfhowlett> !final|noiro_
[14:57] <Guest69992> i've run update-manager -d     set mirror (download from:) to http://cosmos.cities.illnois.edu/pub/ubuntu) from  Main Server , and same issue.
[14:57] <dw1> Dave-Maydew: Pingus is a good game, like lemmings :-)
[14:57] <darthanubis> cfhowlett, ghost windows. After double-clicking titlebar to shade the window
[14:57] <Weetos> Anyone having issues connecting to vino from a vnc client running on win64 since the 14?04 upgrade ? it says "No security types supported" and setting "require-encryption" to false doesn't help either
[14:58] <darthanubis> the window shades, and disappears except for a faint outline of the whole window
[14:58] <darthanubis> only way back to it is to clikc the icon of the program in the taskbar
[14:58] <darthanubis> unity
[14:59] <hayri> Hi, I have an ANT stick connected, and i'd like to use it in guest OS of VirtualBox. However VB says no device connected.
[14:59] <darthanubis> If i knew where to paste pictures I could show you
[14:59] <hayri> I guess this means my ubuntu doesn't recognize it
[14:59] <cfhowlett> !paste|darthanubis
[14:59] <hayri> how can I test if ubuntu recongizes a usb device?
[14:59] <bekks> hayri: sudo lsusb
[14:59] <darthanubis> ty
[14:59] <thiebaude> hayri, maybe try a livecd
[15:00] <Lizards|Work> hayri, or chainload it
[15:00] <hayri> Lizards|Work: chainload?
[15:00] <Lizards|Work> use a GRUB iso or something
[15:00] <hayri> and what livecd, why?
[15:00] <nelas> installing 14.04 on my virtalbox :)
[15:00] <darthanubis> cfhowlett, http://imagebin.org/306317
[15:00] <hayri> i kinda don't get it
[15:00] <Lizards|Work> idk, vbox won't boot from USB
[15:00] <Dave-Maydew> I'm loving STEAM too
[15:00] <thiebaude> livecd, to see if everything works
[15:00] <hayri> ah, ok there's a bit misunderstanding
[15:01] <thiebaude> :)
[15:01] <hayri> so i don't wanna boot vbox from usb
[15:01] <cfhowlett> darthanubis seeing it now ... please ask again in channel and direct viewers to this pic.  I'm on xubuntu so - no help.  I've never done unity
[15:01] <Dave-Maydew> Anyway, once again dwl, many thanks and if I have anymore questions I'll be back
[15:01] <hayri> i have actually an ant stick (for garmin swim watch) and i wanna use it under guest os (which happens to be windows bcoz garmin doesn't support linux :/)
[15:01] <hayri> so anyway, i wanna filter the device so that it will be used in guest
[15:02] <hayri> but vbox says "no device connected" when I try to filter usb devices
[15:02] <bekks> hayri: enable usb2 support for your vm, install the extension pack for vbox in the same version as vbox, pass through the usb device.
[15:02] <darthanubis> cfhowlett, ty for your time
[15:02] <hayri> bekks: did that
[15:02] <hayri> already
[15:02] <bekks> hayri: which vbox version do you use in particular?
[15:02] <dysoco> Hello, I have to install the proprietary Nvidia drivers, now, I remember that in the past you ran into problems if you did that via the software center, and you had to do some work in the terminal... has this been fixed?
[15:02] <next-generation> hey :)
[15:02] <hayri> bekks: 4.2.16
[15:03] <bekks> hayri: I'd uninstall that and use the latest official 4.3.10
[15:03] <next-generation> spricht jemand deutsch? :)
[15:03] <hayri> bekks: ok lemme try
[15:03] <bekks> !de | next-generation
[15:03] <rundll32> cfhowlett, is there a easy way of converting debs to rpms?
[15:03] <bekks> rundll32: No, there isnt.
[15:03] <next-generation> ihr könnt ja deutsch ^
[15:03] <kostkon> dysoco, you typically install them, by opening your updater settings and selecting Additional Drivers
[15:04] <next-generation> ich hätte da ne frage wenn das okay ist? ^
[15:04] <darthanubis> Any one using default Ubuntu 14.04?
[15:04] <dysoco> kostkon, and that works again? it used to break your system.
[15:04] <cfhowlett> rundll32 why?  ubuntu runs on debs ...
[15:04] <bekks> !de | next-generation
[15:04] <cfhowlett> !de|next-generation
[15:04] <kostkon> dysoco, no idea about that
[15:04] <nikolam> CountryfiedLinux, I think that whan people buy other's company's hardware, that could be enough.
[15:05] <Guest69992> salsero|2: i've run update-manager -d     set mirror (download from:) to http://cosmos.cities.illnois.edu/pub/ubuntu) from  Main Server , and same issue.
[15:05] <nikolam> It is hard to get rid of nouveau
[15:05] <bekks> nikolam: apt-get purge ...
[15:06] <rundll32>  cfhowlett because yast in bash mode is better than aptitude
[15:06] <dysoco> nikolam, so I just do it the manual way? iirc you had to blacklist noveau first.
[15:06] <Meris> salsero|2, when reinstalling grub2 from within the chroot, I opted for "locally adapted configuration, because I made an edit to the line GRUB_DEFAULT_LINUX . After that I entered your efibootmgr lines and the ubuntu bootmgr was at point 0000 of the efi, so it should be started first now. Your analysis line to determine wheter I was running Legacy or EFI came up with EFI :-)
[15:06] <cfhowlett> rundll32 but yast doesn't run on ubuntu.
[15:06] <cfhowlett> !yast
[15:06] <nikolam> why in hell removing libdrm-nouveau2 would like to remove also abiword and xorg?
[15:08] <renatobi_> siamo un giornale coraggioso, specialmente la redazione di Massa
[15:08] <renatobi_> http://www.lanazione.it/curiosita/2014/04/16/1053619-massa-avvistamento-ufo.shtml#1
[15:08] <Meris> salsero|2, is there anything else that needs to be done, before I can reboot my machine as far as you can see or am I done (in which case I'm eternally grateful to you)
[15:08] <shubhamjain> I don't have a remotest idea why this happens, specifically with FF: http://i.stack.imgur.com/2MteJ.png
[15:08] <kostkon> shubhamjain, gnome theme problem I'd say
[15:08] <salsero|2> Meris: test it out, it should be ok now
[15:09] <shubhamjain> kostkon, i use cinnamon.. But thanks for the pointer, let me try other theme
[15:09] <Meris> I will, rebooting in 3...2...1 Rebooting. Should go fast because it's an extremely fast machine.
[15:10] <rundll32>  cfhowlett, is there any yast equivalent specifically  for ubuntu?
[15:10] <kostkon> rundll32, no
[15:11] <Meris> salsero|2, no, it came up with the same dreary bootmgr and the option still reads Ubuntu 13.10 in spite of all our work :-/
[15:12] <Meris> salsero|2, Windows starts up normally, but grub is nowhere to be seen... ;_;
[15:12] <dysoco> are you guys using nvidia or nvidia-updates ?
[15:12] <cfhowlett> rundll32 apt or aptitude
[15:13] <salsero|2> Meris: sorry, not sure what might be
[15:14] <totnsn> test
[15:14] <Meris> salsero|2, I have to leave in 15 minutes now, thanks for all the help so far, at least I learned some things, but my machine still doesn't boot my beloved OS, not even the grub2 bootmanager
[15:14] <kostkon> totnsn, we can see you
[15:15] <ToujoursUSB> hi, backlight control broken on 14.04
[15:15] <ToujoursUSB> keys don't work, "echo 0 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness" does nothing
[15:15] <salsero|2> Meris: i suspect something in the bios, but I am not experienced enough with efi
[15:15] <salsero|2> just made one install so far
[15:15] <rundll32>  cfhowlett: thanks very much for taking your time to answer my questions.
[15:15] <rundll32> bye.
[15:16] <rundll32> :-D
[15:16] <ioudas> i have a kbdrate setting as a udev rule. kdbrate needs to be set by someone with /dev/port access which is the console user. The udev rule works, and udec rule creates a lock file which the users .profile script reads then executes a kbdrate setting.  The thing is when its run from .profile it will tell me the user doesnt have /dev/port open. I cannot get the script to run in .bashrc.... any help would be appreciated
[15:17] <ToujoursUSB> also, how to use the new start menu on xubuntu 14.04?
[15:17] <Meris> salsero|2, efi should have been the solution so you would not need any bootmanagers anymore, but it turns out to be just another BLOB that the system manufacturers nerf to a point that it hardly usable with anything but the supplied default OS...
[15:19] <salsero|2> Meris: could be, but it's hard to really prove now. have a read about efi booting in the web. in this dell I only have kubuntu so I am not on the same shoes as you are
[15:19] <ToujoursUSB> Meris: don't mix UEFI and EFI
[15:21] <Meris> ToujoursUSB, well my system is supposed to have UEFI, but it looks like it's even more limited than my previous Legacy BIOS
[15:21] <fragske> Hello
[15:21] <fragske> anyone else having poor performance with nvidia on 14.04?
[15:21] <dysoco> just rebooted and nvidia 14.04 seems to work fine
[15:21] <fragske> glxgears runs fine and all
[15:22] <fragske> but xbmc has awfull performance
[15:22] <fragske> i can see tearing
[15:22] <dysoco> haven't tried XBMC
[15:22] <fragske> and the videoplayback is chopy
[15:22] <fragske> choppy
[15:22] <dysoco> WOAH
[15:22] <dysoco> youtube is working out of the box, with sound!
[15:22] <fragske> :(
[15:22] <salsero|2> <_<
[15:23] <gallbladder> hello everyone, my nautilus and firefox font types have suddenly changed..can you suggest me something to fix it?
[15:23] <ioudas> anyone? buehellr?
[15:23] <zcheng3> cannot loggin to ubuntu......
[15:24] <zcheng3> ubuntu-desktop is broken
[15:24] <zcheng3> have some dependency issues and broken packages
[15:24] <NET||abuse> Hi folks, i'm trying to use preseed and packer, but i get stuck on "Select your location" question, i can't seem to skip it. does anyone know what d-i option in a preseed file i need?
[15:24] <NET||abuse> or is there anything in the boot command I need to add?
[15:25] <NET||abuse> so far i've tried d-i debian-installer/locale string en_GB    and console-keymaps-at/keymap string uk
[15:26] <NET||abuse> in the boot command i have    debian-installer=en_UK auto locale=en_UK kbd-chooser/method=uk   keyboard-configuration/modelcode=SKIP keyboard-configuration/layout=uk keyboard-configuration/variant=uk console-setup/ask_detect=false
[15:26] <Guest69992> salsero|2:   I've tried about 1/2 dozen different mirrors, and I get the same (no new ubuntu release)..  any ideas of how to proceed?
[15:26] <NET||abuse> so with all that, is there anything else i'm missing?
[15:26] <salsero|2> Guest69992: are you choosing any new version or only long term versions?
[15:27] <ToujoursUSB> Meris: you can boot in BIOS mode
[15:28] <salsero|2> not with windows8
[15:28] <penthief> I think the upgrade from 12.04 -> 14.04 has hung, there are critical glib errors coming from DynaLoader.pm and the progress bar is showing "unpacking vim-nox".
[15:28] <Guest69992> salsero|2:   I'm running update-manager -d (which should be ANY release), correct?  By the way I've got 13.10, and want 14.04. :)
[15:28] <ikonia> Guest69992: do not use -d
[15:28] <ikonia> Guest69992: that is for development releases
[15:28] <lnostdal> hi guys, all this work and care md5/sha summing isos .. but still http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/  does not support https ( https://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ ) ..     or perhaps another mirror supports https?
[15:30] <allstarsnorks2> Why are YouTube videos choppy on Ubuntu 14.04?
[15:31] <NET||abuse> allstarsnorks2: this seems to happen every time with releases, probably peperpot flash in chrome is issue.
[15:31] <NET||abuse> allstarsnorks2: have you tried normal flash/firefox?
[15:31] <gre-> hiya
[15:31] <ToujoursUSB> enable html 5, try playing them with html 5
[15:31] <Guest69992> salsero|2:   I've tried update-manager -c     and update-manager (without args), and I still get 'software on this computer is up to date'.
[15:31] <Meris> ToujoursUSB, I can't, my HDD is partioned as gpt and has too many partitions to avoid confusing the BIOS. Chainloading Grub2 from the Windows bootmanager would be perfectly acceptable to me, an extra needed tap is nothing when I can boot into my Ubuntu that way.
[15:32] <gre-> i got a problem with fullscreen on ubuntu 14.04, same for you?
[15:32] <gre-> (with games)
[15:32] <penthief> The Glib error messages (you forgot to call g_type_ini() happen after the lines "Unpacking python-minimal" and "Processing triggers for man-db". It definitely seems to have hung.
[15:32] <ikonia> Guest69992: what are you trying to actually do ?
[15:32] <gre-> it makes the window transparent
[15:32] <Guest69992> salsero|2:   sudo do-release-upgrade still returns 'no new release found'..
[15:32] <Meris> Anyway, salsero|2 Thanks for all the pointers and advice. I have to go now.
[15:33] <gre-> we don't have a multi-desktop anymore?
[15:33] <gre-> can't see it
[15:33] <ToujoursUSB> Meris: you can boot in GPT with bios
[15:33] <ToujoursUSB> that's what I'm doing
[15:33] <ToujoursUSB> but not on dual boot...
[15:33] <ToujoursUSB> (windows can't)
[15:33] <ToujoursUSB> gre-: play maximized window
[15:33] <ToujoursUSB> (alt+f11?)
[15:33] <gre-> i did f11 yes
[15:33] <Meris> salsero|2, should you have any extra suggestions, please open up a PM and paste them there, I will leave this session open.
[15:33] <gre-> and it bugs
[15:34] <ToujoursUSB> alt+f11
[15:34] <gre-> if i don't my game rulz perfectly
[15:34] <gre-> (minecraft)
[15:34] <gre-> alt+f11 looks to be same as f11
[15:34] <gre-> but thanks
[15:34] <allstarsnorks2_> but I'm using Firefox, not Chrome. I don't get why YT videos are choppy.
[15:34] <penthief> Should I cancel the failed upgrade and do I need to repair the old distro?
[15:35] <Jordan_U> Meris: Why do you have two EFI System Partitions?
[15:36] <gre-> and what about multi-desktops icon in launcher?
[15:36] <gre-> not anymore?
[15:36] <gre-> :/
[15:36] <penthief> I can no longer open any GTK apps: "gedit: error while loading shared libraries: libpango-1.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:37] <ToujoursUSB> gre-: MINECRAFT FULLSCREEN IS GLITCHY
[15:37] <ToujoursUSB> alt+f11 will be interpreted as f11 because the game has no idea which window manager you use
[15:37] <Diomedes> Hey! I started the upgrade process from Xubuntu 13.10 to 14.04. Blank screen after half of the installation, rebooted, Grub does not load. What can I do?
[15:37] <ToujoursUSB> alt+f11 only works with Xfm mostly
[15:37] <ToujoursUSB> Xfwm
[15:37] <gre-> ToujoursUSB: when i went to fullscreen on 12.04 ubuntu i got more fps
[15:37] <gre-> thats why i need it again
[15:37] <ToujoursUSB> DISABLE YOUR DESKTOP EFFECTS
[15:37] <ToujoursUSB> (you can't with unity)
[15:38] <gre-> if i can't...
[15:38] <lillo> how can I disable desktop effects?
[15:38] <gre-> difficult to fix it
[15:38] <ToujoursUSB> change de
[15:38] <Jordan_U> Diomedes: What happens when you try to boot?
[15:38] <gre-> you're french?
[15:38] <gre-> your nickname sounds french
[15:38] <ToujoursUSB> no
[15:38] <gre-> ok ok
[15:39] <Diomedes> It says error: symbol grub_term_highlight_color not found
[15:39] <penthief> Does anybody have any advice for recovering back to 12.04 from a failed (well, currently hanging) upgrade. I am getting "libpango-1.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when trying to open a GTK app. Is all lost?
[15:40] <roler> i run ubuntu server 13.10 (non LTS) and I have an update notice today saying 14.04 is available, but that appears to only be LTS. Is it going to convert me to LTS then?
[15:40] <Diomedes> And then there is a command line starting with: grub rescue>
[15:40] <gre-> ok, minecraft fullscreen is glitchy but well... its a real problem if f11 is the cause of a crash
[15:40] <gre-> it sucks
[15:40] <gre-> i really have to fix it
[15:40] <penthief> roler: Don't upgrade
[15:40] <Jordan_U> Diomedes: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[15:41] <roler> penthief: why, is there a bug? or just switching to LTS? I’ve often times thought I should have installed LTS instead of normal server
[15:41] <Diomedes> Jordan_U: Yes, two, one Win and one Linix
[15:41] <penthief> roler: The upgrade path seems to be severely broken.
[15:41] <roler> penthief; thank you so much :)
[15:42] <belgianguy> 14.04 keeps eluding me
[15:42] <belgianguy> I just got the option to upgrade through the GUI, but thought it better to plug in the mains first, but then my laptop hung up on me
[15:43] <belgianguy> I rebooted and tried the updater GUI again, and no dice anymore ;(
[15:44] <salsero|2> belgianguy: sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:44] <wabash> Is there an alternative spin to ubuntu that comes on liveDVD with everytihng needed to play music and videos?
[15:45] <belgianguy> salsero|2: It's alive! :D
[15:45] <belgianguy> thanks!
[15:45] <gre-> damn, nobody can't help me
[15:45] <lillo> wabash, there are cospyright issues
[15:45] <wabash> everybody can help you?
[15:45] <wabash> lillo: I see.
[15:45] <wabash> There used to be medibuntu...
[15:45] <gre-> devs if you can read me, please see about fullscreen bugs :)
[15:45] <wabash> and fedora has a spin that has everything..
[15:45] <salsero|2> whats cospyright?
[15:45] <lillo> failed project
[15:45] <ToujoursUSB> penthief: like you
[15:46] <ToujoursUSB> you CAN play music and videos on ubuntu
[15:46] <tex43> my ubuntu 14.04 installation hangs on, install mp3 during installation and install updates screen nothing happens after i click continue, how can i fix it
[15:46] <ToujoursUSB> but only non-stupid ones
[15:46] <wabash> salsero|2: It's where you you can sell Jello Pudding Pops legally.
[15:46] <ToujoursUSB> for stupid ones, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:46] <noiro_> if I'm on 13.10 and I use dist-upgrade, will it try to update to 14.04 or will it only upgrade to stable releases?
[15:46] <wabash> ToujoursUSB: But not off the liveDVD, correcT? you have to do an installation first, right?
[15:46] <ToujoursUSB> dist-upgrade does NOT upgrade
[15:46] <ToujoursUSB> use "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[15:46] <ToujoursUSB> to upgrade to higher version
[15:46] <tgm4883> lillo, actually, it was just superseded by ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:46] <ToujoursUSB> wabash: maybe not
[15:47] <ToujoursUSB> "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[15:47] <wabash> So, I want a liveDVD that will do it. Ah, bummer, thanks!
[15:47] <wabash> Is "Ubuntu Software Center" a good way to install stuff? Or is apt-get better, and why?
[15:47] <noiro_> ToujoursUSB: will that go to 14.04? I just want the latest stable release
[15:47] <gre-> gre@home:~$ sudo apt-get update
[15:47] <gre-> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:47] <gre-> oh?
[15:47] <lillo> tgm4883, failed project I said! xD
[15:47] <gre-> lololol
[15:47] <gre-> wtf
[15:47] <gre-> a new bug or what?
[15:47] <unopaste> gre- you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[15:47] <salsero|2> gre-: some gui open
[15:47] <salsero|2> or tray app
[15:47] <tgm4883> lillo, I suppose you and me have very different ideas of what failed mean
[15:48] <gre-> ah ok
[15:48] <wabash> tgm4883: How about you? Live DVD that plays videos?
[15:49] <gre-> yea im installing openjdk7
[15:49] <gre-> exact
[15:49] <oal> Anyone else seeing "Fatal Error: Failed to load libsteam.so" when launching steam in 14.04?
[15:49] <next-generation> wie wechsle ich zum channel.de ?
[15:49] <salsero|2> !de
[15:49] <highrise2357> Hello everyone; I've been getting an error that appears on the TTY screens recently: "timed out waiting for forcewake old ack to clear". I did some research and found that it's a bug that can be fixed by updating the kernel, but my kernel is already up to date. I'm wondering if I should bother to fix this, and if so, how. Thanks in advance.
[15:50] <ToujoursUSB> noiro_: latest stable is 14.04
[15:50] <highrise2357> Would updating to 14.04 fix my problem?
[15:51] <tex43> anyone has any ideas, im using mac mini, i have osx in another partition  the question was,  my ubuntu 14.04 installation hangs on, install mp3 during installation and install updates screen nothing happens after i click continue, how can i fix it
[15:51] <ToujoursUSB> highrise2357: 14.04 has more recent kernel (3.13) than 13.10 (3.11)
[15:51] <noiro_> ToujoursUSB: I thought 14.04 was still beta?
[15:51] <tgm4883> wabash, not sure what you are asking
[15:51] <noiro_> and I tried the command you said, no new versions detected
[15:51] <highrise2357> ToujoursUSB: alright thanks, I'll give it a shot
[15:52] <wabash> tgm4883: I'd like to find a liveDVD with media player and codecs built into it.
[15:52] <tgm4883> wabash, why not a persistent USB?
[15:52] <tozen> hi all! does anb affected by this bug as well? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1307846
[15:52] <ToujoursUSB> noiro_: no
[15:52] <ToujoursUSB> released yesterday
[15:52] <wabash> tgm4883: Could work. But if there was a spin/derivative/remix just sitting there, I'd use that.   Is it easy to make encrypted installl with ubuntu?
[15:53] <nikolam> malv83, maybe it needs more testing before release
[15:53] <malv83> no it is not
[15:53] <malv83> it is impossible with the ubuntu installer
[15:53] <craig_> Hi everyone
[15:53] <tgm4883> malv83, steps to reproduce?
[15:53] <tbdev> i all
[15:53] <nikolam> wabash, well, user dir could be encrypted by default
[15:53] <malv83> i created an encrypted swap space and it complains about it not being encrypted
[15:53] <malv83> it's really amazing
[15:54] <craig_> I am Helpman
[15:54] <gallbladder> hello everyone, my nautilus and firefox font types have suddenly changed..can you suggest me something to fix it?
[15:54] <malv83> And as far as I can tell, there is no lvm support so no encrypted partition with an lvm space inside
[15:54] <lillo> what? lvm is not supportes?
[15:54] <nikolam> malv83, have you thinking about buying official support and try to ask them?
[15:55] <tgm4883> malv83, AFAIK, the desktop installer doesn't have LVM support
[15:55] <malv83> hah
[15:55] <malv83> what happened to the alternate installer?
[15:55] <ikonia> end of life
[15:55] <wabash> nikolam: Ok, nice. How bout the entire installation?
[15:55] <malv83> yay, feature regression!
[15:55] <tgm4883> malv83, have you tried the server installer?
[15:55] <nikolam> wabash dunno, try help. ubuntu.com and search for it
[15:56] <wabash> thank you.
[15:56] <malv83> o ubuntu, i want to love you
[15:56] <tgm4883> malv83, have you filed a bug report?
[15:56] <nikolam> maybe this would help, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FullDiskEncryptionHowto
[15:57] <lillo> luks does not permit to save the header... if somethings broken you lost
[15:57] <leuApodo> HELLO!!!
[15:59] <noiro_> lol, that's why i can't get 14.04, I was apparently still on 13.04
[15:59] <ftsp> just installed ubuntu 1404 and cant get the installer to work
[16:00] <ftsp> ububuntu installer crashes when attempting to packages that have pop-ups such as restricted extras
[16:00] <Slart> ftsp: yup.. I can second that one.. it didn't crash for me but it just hangs the gui-installer
[16:01] <Slart> ftsp: for me it was the microsoft fonts package
[16:01] <nikolam> ftsp, what are you installing, from where and with what tool. During install process? Try synaptic and aptitude if already installed and installing ackages
[16:01] <Slart> ftsp: I would just install the basic system with the gui and then do the fancy stuff after install with a terminal and apt-get
[16:02] <Slart> ftsp: at least that's what worked for me
[16:02] <nikolam> Slart, as I know mscorefonts are not redistributable so it depends on network is able to download them
[16:02] <nikolam> I did install without network, with gui on 32 bit, right
[16:02] <zleap> hello
[16:02] <nikolam> I always do like this and then i let him update
[16:03] <Slart> nikolam: the fonts themselves aren't in the package but they download them from the web somehwere.. but before that there is a license thingy you have to agree to.. that doesn't show up if you use the gui software installer
[16:03] <helpo12> I can't get ctrl alt f1 to work
[16:03] <lillo> and youll offend stallman
[16:04] <Slart> helpo12: works here on 14.04.. what version are you using? new install?
[16:04] <ftsp> how do I check if True Type Fonts were installed
[16:04] <nikolam> helpo12, do you have nvidia graphics? I have such problems in 14.04 32 bit
[16:04] <nikolam> try resetting few times
[16:04] <_95A31_> Hi guys, I have just installed 14.04 but at first boot I have: request_module: runaway loop modprobe binfmt-464c some idea ?
[16:04] <nikolam> I am just trying to install nvidia drivers, no luck,
[16:04] <helpo12> I am using a deriviative of Ububntu ,Blackbox. I am on an HP Mini
[16:05] <DanC_> I upgraded to 14.04 last night and now my VPN fails with "no valid VPN secrets" and "Configure VPN..." is greyed out. clues?
[16:05] <helpo12> How can  switch from X Server to the terminal?
[16:06] <dooglus> I updated my laptop to 14.04 yesterday from the previous version.  it had to download some 2000 .deb files.  I have limited bandwidth per month.  if I copy everything from /var/cache/apt/archives/ onto my other laptop, will it save it havin to download so much when i update it?
[16:06] <nikolam> DanC_, and I suppose I am not the only one that usually waits to LTS version .1 to upgrade..
[16:06] <Jordan_U> Diomedes: Try changing the boot order in your BIOS.
[16:06] <dooglus> or is there an index or something which I need to update so it will notice the new packages are there?
[16:06] <helpo12> Any Idea's?
[16:06] <nikolam> DanC_, report bug
[16:07] <helpo12> I need toswitch from GUI/Xserver tothe Terminal
[16:07] <anderson_> ...
[16:07] <Jordan_U> Diomedes: If changing the boot order doesn't help, please run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt it produces.
[16:07] <lillo> with linux is always a switch
[16:07] <Slart> dooglus: I'm not sure how to do it manually like that but for future reference I would use one of the several repo cache thingies that you can find.. proxies that automatically save packages once downloaded so other computers on the same network can get them without fetching them again
[16:08] <twig11> I am looking for some help figuring out where a massive amount of unknown network traffice is coming from on my pc. I just upgraded from ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04 , and an hour or so after booting into the new system, I started getting heavy download traffic from <IP_ADDRESS> to my pc. I have verified that the traffic isn't originating from dropbox or any other service I am knowingly connecting to. I did a wireshark capture of that traffic and it collected about 5
[16:08] <twig11> Turning on the firewall killed that stream, but within minutes, another started from <IP_ADDRESS>. Again, I can't find any legitimate service causing it, and I'm just not literate enough to make sense of the wireshark capture. I did upload part of this one, however, at http://paste.ubuntu.com/7276593/. I would love to have someone scan this text dump and tell me if I'm missing something obvious or if I should be concerned. Currently I'm still receiving a stead
[16:08] <dooglus> Slart: I've have good luck with package caches before
[16:08] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Diomedes
[16:08] <dooglus> Slart: but it's a pain then installing packages when out of the house
[16:09] <Slart> dooglus: ah.. yes.. that might make it more difficult..
[16:09] <helpo123> I need to change from the GUI/X Server to the Terminal
[16:09] <helpo123> I need to change from the GUI/X Server to the Terminal
[16:09] <Slart> helpo123: if you're using a derivative you really should use their support channels.. we don't know what they have changed
[16:10] <helpo123> I can't. No one is on it
[16:10] <Slart> helpo123: and don't spam your question every 10 seconds.. you'll just get kicked
[16:10] <Slart> helpo123: then perhaps switch to another distro that has support
[16:10] <helpo123> OK. :(
[16:10] <tgm4883> helpo123, have you tried ctrl+alt+F1
[16:11] <helpo123> yes. Will not work
[16:11] <tgm4883> helpo123, have you tried ctrl+alt+Fn+F1
[16:11] <jubo2> 'k .. got unexpected problem.. system no longer boots up
[16:11] <helpo123> tgm4883 Yes. Won't switch.
[16:12] <twig11> Regarding the above post, the origin port of the traffic is 8334 and the destination port on my machine is 41205
[16:12] <nikolam> also not sure why 14.04 is loading nouveau driver even if it is black listed
[16:12] <Diomedes> Jordan_U: I have changed the boot order to boot from the other HDD. Now Grub launches. If I choose Ubuntu, a Xubuntu screen appears which says that the drive is not ready yet or not available. I can wait, skip it (by pressing S) or restore it manually (D).
[16:12] <tgm4883> helpo123, sorry, can't help you then. Have you tried their mailing list (assuming they have one)
[16:12] <helpo123> I am now
[16:12] <helpo123> :(
[16:14] <jubo2> when booting: it shows briefly the graphical loading screen and then screen goes blank ( backlight on ) and nothing happens
[16:14] <jubo2> I didn't touch any of the settings afaik
[16:15] <jubo2> please help. My system is in a non-booting stage..
[16:16] <jubo2> I did run a 'sudo modprobe' command the last thing before shutdown
[16:16] <jubo2> and now it won't boot up to login screen
[16:16] <UrielVigilant> I can t put my BCM 4311 working with Lubuntu 14.04, this use to work with Lubuntu 13.10 or Ubuntu13.10 but not with 14.04 why ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7276838/
[16:16] <Lizards|Work> jubo2, can you ctrl+alt+f1 to a tty?
[16:16] <jubo2> Lizards|Work: nope.
[16:17] <Lizards|Work> well i'm tapped out then =\
[16:17] <jhutchins> jubo2: Can you get to the grub menu and boot to rescue mode?
[16:17] <wallzero> Greetings. I am booted into Xen but I still receive the error "Error: Unable to connect to xend: No such file or directory. Is xend running?" Why isn't xend running even after booting Xen?
[16:18] <jubo2> jhutchins: I dunno. There is only one OS so it seems that GRUB is not installed
[16:18] <jhutchins> jubo2: modprobe should just load a module once, reboot should be unaffected.
[16:18] <jhutchins> jubo2: If it's ubuntu, grub is what loads the OS.  Try holding shift while booting.
[16:18] <SteveBell1> the 14.04 update seems to have created a new smb.conf file. I see that smb.conf.backup does exist, but cannot move smb.conf to the trash and rename the backup. any ideas how to get that done?
[16:18] <netstar_> anyone used a nam-gear ARM netbook?
[16:19] <jubo2> jhutchins: 'k..I try
[16:19] <Jordan_U> Diomedes: Try skipping it.
[16:20] <jubo2> jhutchins: 'k .. in GRUB menu now
[16:20] <Lizards|Work> if i cancel the upgrade while it's downloading, does it cache the downloaded files for future use?
[16:21] <jubo2> I'm at tty1 now
[16:21] <Diomedes> Jordan_U: Same message, but now /temp is not ready/available. If I skip it again same for /home.
[16:22] <UrielVigilant> Someone help me put my BCM 4311 working with Lubuntu 14.04, this use to work with Lubuntu 13.10 or Ubuntu13.10 but not with 14.04 why ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7276838/
[16:22] <jubo2> jhutchins: any idea what I should do now to diagnose and/or rid of the problem ?
[16:23] <Lizards|Work> sudo apt-get install linux-source linux-headers-generic
[16:23] <SuperLag> UrielVigilant: patience
[16:23] <sogard> Hey there. How can I install a trusty package on precise?
[16:23] <SuperLag> sogard: I doubt it, not cleanly, anyways
[16:24] <SuperLag> sogard: it probably has dependency requirements of newer libraries and packages that could potentially mess up your current install
[16:24] <SuperLag> sogard: do you have the option to upgrade the entire system to Trusty?
[16:24] <sogard> I tend to doubt that it does.
[16:24] <sogard> But yeah, whatever.
[16:25] <SuperLag> sogard: what package is this?
[16:25] <sogard> Gimp 2.9.1.
[16:25] <SuperLag> sogard: what about upgrading to Trusty?
[16:26] <sogard> I'm on Elementary OS Luna.
[16:26] <SuperLag> then you should be in their channel asking these questions
[16:26] <jubo2> I did a 'sudo modprobe somesounddriver' the last thing before the machine ended in this non-booting state
[16:26] <jubo2> could that have broken the system
[16:26] <sogard> It's basically build on Precise, but yeah.
[16:26] <sogard> Thanks, anyway.
[16:27] <jubo2> I don't know what modprobe does
[16:27] <Lizards|Work> did you try to change a sound config setting before the modprobe?
[16:27] <jubo2> Lizards|Work: yes
[16:27] <Lizards|Work> i had a wierd thing like that, had to undo the sound config setting to get it to boot
[16:27] <jubo2> the modprobe didn't print anything ( which said was good in the instructions )
[16:27] <Lizards|Work> you did make a backup, right?
[16:27]  * SuperLag <3 backups.
[16:28] <SuperLag> I keep multiple for just such situations.
[16:28] <Lizards|Work> sudo find / -type f -iwholename '*\.bak'
[16:28] <Lizards|Work> just scrolls and scrolls
[16:29] <jubo2> I can boot to the textual login pressing shift key on bootup and choosing "safe mode"
[16:29] <jubo2> but what can I do to repair the system ?
[16:29] <Lizards|Work> undo the changes you made to the sound settings?
[16:29] <jubo2> but I didn't actually change anything ( I think )
[16:30] <Lizards|Work> famous last words
[16:30]  * salsero|2 i think is da sh1t
[16:31] <Lizards|Work> i'm watching the terminal for the upgrader... and i'm seeing a lot of Fontconfig errors
[16:31] <Lizards|Work> should i be concerned?
[16:31] <la> holaa
[16:31] <helpo123> Ughhh. Still not working
[16:31] <la> alguien para hablar
[16:32] <la> soyy mujer
[16:33] <mario-goulart> Hi.  Sorry for the possibly stupid question, but how can I switch to mate after I have installed it?  I'm on a fresh 14.04 and installed mate with "apt-get install mate-desktop".  I can't see an option to switch desktop environments on the graphical login manager.
[16:33] <jubo2> so on bootup an ubuntuish logo appears for a second or so and then the screen goes blank, disk led stops blinking
[16:34] <jubo2> all I can think I am guilty of is running the 'sudo modprobe whatever' I did
[16:34] <jubo2> can modprobe break installations ?
[16:34] <salsero|2> modprobe -r yes
[16:34] <jubo2> salsero|2: I didn't use -r
[16:34] <jubo2> what does that do ?
[16:34] <Lizards|Work> replace probably
[16:35] <salsero|2> man modprobe
[16:35] <phenton> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[16:35] <jubo2> phenton: is that for me ?
[16:35] <salsero|2> i doubt it
[16:35] <dw1> seems legit
[16:35] <Programmer_> I am trying to upgrade to 14.04 but i keep getting caught in the grub install. It wont install and keep selecting do not continue, yet is wont work...help
[16:36] <phenton> That should make sure the login screen is working, then as others have suggested look for the Ubuntu logo.
[16:36] <Lizards|Work> Fontconfig error: "/etc/fints/conf.d/65-khmer.conf", line [14|23|32]: out of memory
[16:36] <Lizards|Work> s/fints/fonts/
[16:38] <leuApodo> hi
[16:38] <Ronpl> Hello, I've got in GRUB two Win8 entries. 1) /bootmgr /Boot/BCD 2). /bootmgr /Boot/BCD /Windows/System32/winload.exe    Which should I remove in GRUB?
[16:38] <altin> hey there, I upgraded to 14.04 and gnome-control-center is missing
[16:38] <bekks> Ronpl: Which of them actually works?
[16:38] <salsero|2> altin: sudo apt-get install gnome-control-center
[16:39] <altin> salsero|2: http://pastebin.com/Zj2d07aJ
[16:39] <Ronpl> bekks: well, the first one
[16:39] <altin> I'm getting this error
[16:39] <altin> my dependencies have been messed I guess :S
[16:39] <bekks> Ronpl: Then remove the other one?
[16:40] <hydruid> altin: uninstall it first, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install gnome-control-center
[16:40] <Diomedes_> Jordan_U: I managed to boot to Ubuntu by choosing advanced options in GRUB and selecting kernel 3.11. It is kind of working, but everything looks kind of broken.
[16:40] <ben_g> HI
[16:40] <[twisti]> hello, im trying to follow this guide: http://ubuntuserverguide.com/2012/05/install-owncloud-4-ubuntu-server-1204-lts.html and im on ubuntu lts 12.04. however, the first line throws many errors: http://pastebin.com/1DrsreRt
[16:40] <[twisti]> what gives ?
[16:40] <salsero|2> altin: you're right
[16:40] <Ronpl> bekks: ok, but I want to be sure if everything will be ok ;) and the second one is useless ;)
[16:40] <ben_g> Is this the official ubuntu support channel?
[16:41] <helpo123> Self Destruct Ubuntu? Confirm or Deny?
[16:41] <salsero|2> altin: you still have some saucy packages
[16:41] <helpo123> Self Destruct Ubuntu? Confirm or Deny?
[16:41] <dw1> ben_g: did you read the topic :)
[16:41] <bekks> Ronpl: So if the second entry doesnt work - remove it.
[16:41] <ben_g> Oh, sorry
[16:41] <jubo2> now I'm running the dpkg-option in the safeboot mode I invoked from GRUB
[16:41] <kumarat9pm> I am installing ubuntu on HP ENVY which haveSSD
[16:42] <Ronpl> bekks: ok, thx
[16:42] <kumarat9pm> How can I say to my ubuntu to install on SSD?
[16:42] <ben_g> Anyway, I have a problem with my ubuntu installation
[16:42] <ben_g> Yesterday, I installed bumblebee and today ubuntu doesn't want to start in GUI mode anymore
[16:43] <ben_g> When I start it, it automaticly goes to text mode
[16:43] <salsero|2> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[16:43] <ben_g> and running startx causes it to show a lot of text on the screen, then it freezes
[16:43] <salsero|2> ben_g: that was for you
[16:44] <salsero|2> but replace for lightdm
[16:44] <bekks> ben_g: startx is not supposed to start x anymore.
[16:44] <ben_g> so I should do lightdm instead of startx?
[16:45] <ben_g> lanking: what's a CTCP VERSION?
[16:46] <jubo2> wheew!
[16:46] <jubo2> after running the "dpkg" ( fix broken packets ) option I get to graphical prompt
[16:46] <salsero|2> nice
[16:46] <basketball> how do i turn on my fan i dont think it is running
[16:47] <ben_g> salsero|2: I'll try to do what you suggested
[16:47] <ben_g> brb
[16:47] <salsero|2> increase your cpu load
[16:47] <someHuman> Hello!
[16:47] <ioudas> i have a kbdrate setting as a udev rule. kdbrate needs to be set by someone with /dev/port access which is the console user. The udev rule works, and udec rule creates a lock file which the users .profile script reads then executes a kbdrate setting.  The thing is when its run from .profile it will tell me the user doesnt have /dev/port open. I cannot get the script to run in .bashrc.... any help would be appreciated
[16:47] <someHuman> I just installed 14.04 yipee! :D
[16:47] <someHuman> But...
[16:47] <Jordan_U> Diomedes_: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[16:47] <someHuman> I am stuck in low-graphics mode.
[16:47] <someHuman> What should I do?
[16:48] <someHuman> I also have two Ubuntus, one is spelled starting with small letter and vice versa.
[16:48] <leuApodo> hi
[16:48] <someHuman> leuApodo: Hello!
[16:49] <Diomedes_> Jordan_U: That is going to fix it? :-)
[16:50] <someHuman> Can anyone help me? :(
[16:50] <Slart> ben_g: it's a way to ask someone what irc-client they are using
[16:50] <dw1> someHuman: if you have nvidia try sudo apt-get install nvidia-current to get the driver
[16:50] <someHuman> dw1: I have AMD card.
[16:51] <melow01> I get a "Failed to Fetch" when trying to install handbrake (http://pastebin.com/vdhsATZP)
[16:51] <jubo2> now the touchpad does not work .. mouse works and the buttons on the touchpad work but no cursor move
[16:51] <Slart> melow01: perhaps the repository is having problems or in the middle of some kind of upgrade
[16:52] <jubo2> looking at system settings at "touchpad" it says "No touchpad found" ... where / how do I reinstall / re-enable it ?
[16:52] <django> trying to install chrome throgh the ubuntu software center....i get error packing error failed
[16:52] <django> package operation failed***
[16:52] <dw1> someHuman: what card
[16:52] <melow01> Slart, I'd like to think so but I was having this same issue two weeks ago
[16:52] <django> installation failed
[16:52] <henrydude> hi. how can I use my old /home after I failed to clarify it during the installation? :)
[16:52] <dw1> someHuman: i will google <card> driver :P
[16:52] <Exagone313> django: try in command line
[16:52] <dw1> someHuman: + ubuntu
[16:52] <henrydude> just mount it via fstab?
[16:52] <Slart> django: try installing it through apt-get in a terminal and see if you get a more verbose error message
[16:52] <melow01> Slart, is there a way to query the repo to find out if its working?
[16:53] <django> Slart: ok thanks
[16:53] <Exagone313> django: apt-get install chromium
[16:53] <riesgo> hola
[16:53] <riesgo> ablais español?
[16:53] <dw1> no
[16:53] <zcheng3_> help!!!
[16:53] <Diomedes_> Jordan_U: It is done now, should I reboot or what?
[16:53] <zcheng3_> i cannot login to ubuntu
[16:53] <Jordan_U> !es | riesgo
[16:53] <riesgo> necesito ayuda
[16:53] <django> Exagone313: where do i find the exact command
[16:54] <dw1> zcheng3_: why not
[16:54] <Slart> melow01: you can probably use apt to interrogate the repo.. or you can browse it in a normal web-browser.. try something like apt-get -v install  bla bla bla   to perhaps get more informative error messages
[16:54] <django> sudo apt-get install chromium-browser ?
[16:54] <zcheng3_> previously I cannot loginto ubuntu using unity, but I could using i3
[16:54] <Exagone313> django: "sudo apt-get install chromium" doesn't wok ?
[16:54] <django> havent treid it
[16:54] <Slart> chromium is a game, afaik
[16:54] <zcheng3_> after i rm .Xauthority
[16:54] <Slart> !info chromium
[16:54] <Exagone313> ok sorry
[16:54] <Slart> or perhaps not?
[16:54] <zcheng3_> I cannot login anymore
[16:54] <dw1> zcheng3_: wrong password?
[16:55] <Slart> !info chromium-browser
[16:55] <zcheng3_> hehe  password is ok
[16:55] <dw1> zcheng3_: so what happens
[16:55] <Ravenslock> Hi pidgin-skype does not seem to work for pidgin? It crashes Pidgin, then I uninstalled pidgin-skype and pidgin works again. Any help?
[16:55] <henrydude> does anyone know about the /home issue?
[16:55] <Jordan_U> Diomedes_: Just to confirm that the upgrade is complete, confirm that "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" doesn't want to do.anything more. Of it doesn't then reboot, if it does then let it finish also then reboot.
[16:55] <fjsfjqowif> hi
[16:55] <boze> !info tilda
[16:55] <django> I get this http://pastebin.com/90TjgZgT
[16:55] <Exagone313> !info chromium-browser
[16:55] <someHuman> dw1: Hey dude!
[16:55] <melow01> Slart, ok, thanks. I also noticed that 'saucy' doesn't seem to exist on the page for stebbins; maybe that's the issue
[16:55] <ioudas> i have a kbdrate setting as a udev rule. kdbrate needs to be set by someone with /dev/port access which is the console user. The udev rule works, and udec rule creates a lock file which the users .profile script reads then executes a kbdrate setting.  The thing is when its run from .profile it will tell me the user doesnt have /dev/port open. I cannot get the script to run in .bashrc.... any help would be appreciated
[16:55] <marc_> hi
[16:55] <zcheng3_> after i enter the password, it bring me back to the login session
[16:55] <someHuman> dw1: I am using Windows 8.1 Pro atm, how can I know my graphic card details?
[16:55] <Exagone313> django: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[16:56] <Slart> melow01: that might be the problem
[16:56] <Exagone313> ok i am late in messages
[16:56] <ben_g> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm didn't work :(
[16:56] <Guest28714> hi
[16:56] <django> Exagone313:  i get this:  Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[16:56] <melow01> Slart, which one should I be using instead?
[16:56] <zcheng3_> I searched online, people are saying to remove .Xauthority
[16:56] <zcheng3_> I did
[16:56] <jubo2> what removed the touchpad ? How do I add it back ?
[16:56] <zcheng3_> and I even could not login using i3
[16:56] <dw1> someHuman: i run ubuntu sorry :p
[16:56] <Slart> melow01: I have no idea, I've never used handbrake myself
[16:56] <ben_g> It's about ubuntu 12.04, the long term support release, btw. Maybe I should have told that before
[16:57] <Exagone313> django: maybe with aptitude ?
[16:57] <dw1> zcheng3_: hard to say :(
[16:57] <melow01> Slart,
[16:57] <melow01> Slart, ok
[16:57] <dw1> zcheng3_: maybe can check some log files..............
[16:57] <Jordan_U> Diomedes_: Actually, also run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and when prompted select all drives (and *no* partitions) as install devices
[16:58] <zcheng3_> how to find the log files please?
[16:58] <Exagone313> django: i can't help you, sorry, maybe others :/
[16:58] <dw1> zcheng3_: or add another user as root from the repair prompt
[16:58] <Diomedes_> Jordan_U: I did the first command, it offered me to remove some unneccessary files, but that's all.
[16:58] <dw1> zcheng3_: then you can at least log in
[16:58] <ben_g> Does anyone know an other sollution for my problem?
[16:58] <zcheng3_> let me check how to add user
[16:59] <dw1> ben_g: did you try lightdm instead of kdm
[16:59] <salsero|2> adduser <user>
[16:59] <henrylinux_> does anyone know how I can use my old home instead of the new home?
[16:59] <henrylinux_> I had /home on a separate partition but failed to specify it during the install of 14.04 :(
[16:59] <jubo2> henrylinux_: so mount it manually?
[16:59] <salsero|2> henrylinux_: /etc/fstab
[17:00] <henrylinux_> jubo2, just in /etc/fstab?
[17:00] <salsero|2> edit there and reboot
[17:00] <Jordan_U> Diomedes_: I assume you mean unneccessary packages, in which case you can remove them or not as you wish, your upgrade is complete.
[17:00] <jubo2> move the old /home out of the way and mount the  old /home to it's right plave I think
[17:00] <henrylinux_> salsero|2, and that's it then?
[17:00] <kostkon> melow01, use this it should be fine https://launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-snapshots
[17:00] <dw1> ben_g: actually you can get to root with Ctrl-Alt-F1 from login screen and Ctrl-Alt-F7 to get back
[17:00] <dw1> ben_g: sorry wrong person
[17:00] <dw1> zcheng3_: ^^^
[17:00] <Diomedes_> Jordan_U: The second command asks me if some command line from menu.lst is correct. The line is empty and it says it can be empty, should I keep it empty or enter anything?
[17:01] <melow01> kostkon, ok, thanks. I just realized that there isn't a version for saucy
[17:01] <salsero|2> henrylinux_: ye
[17:01] <henrylinux_> jubo2, can't do that, due to space restrictions.
[17:01] <kostkon> melow01, saucy or trusty?
[17:01] <Jordan_U> Diomedes_: Keep it empty.
[17:01] <melow01> kostkon, how do I make this a command to run in my script? (http://pastebin.com/vdhsATZP)
[17:01] <zcheng3_> add a user now
[17:01] <zcheng3_> trying to log in
[17:01] <henrylinux_> salsero|2, alright, will try :)
[17:01] <zcheng3_> it works
[17:01] <salsero|2> nice
[17:01] <zcheng3_> this new user can login
[17:01] <zcheng3_> what about the prevous one?
[17:01] <zcheng3_> previous one?
[17:02] <ben_g> Doan anyone still ahve an idea of how I can start the x server?
[17:02] <salsero|2> ben_g: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[17:02] <ben_g> ok, thanks
[17:02] <salsero|2> sudo service lightdm start
[17:02] <dw1> zcheng3_: depends what the problem is...... have to figure it out
[17:02] <ben_g> brb
[17:02] <boze> I'm about to upgrade, but when i apt-get update I get an error :( W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy-security_universe_binary-amd64_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[17:02] <ryck> Do you know the issue with the skype indicator? It's displayed with a delay of a few seconds. Sometimes it's getting visible after a click on another indicator applet.
[17:02] <Jordan_U> Diomedes_: For devices, use space bar to select/unselect and Enter when done.
[17:02] <boze> thats never happened before
[17:02] <ryck> (Ubuntu 14)
[17:02] <salsero|2> boze: switch mirror
[17:03] <lapion> anyone else having problems upgrading a system with a root partition formatted with a btrfs ?
[17:03] <boze> salsero|2: okay, thanks :)
[17:03]  * boze googles
[17:03] <salsero|2> boze: no need for that
[17:03] <zcheng3_> well...
[17:03] <melow01> saucy
[17:03] <kostkon> melow01, just change the line where it says add-apt-repository ppa:stebbins/handbrake-releases to add-apt-repository ppa:stebbins/handbrake-snapshots
[17:03] <zcheng3_> what i need to do to find out what's wrong with it?
[17:03] <salsero|2> lapion: no, but I were you I wouldnt use btrfs
[17:03] <melow01> kostkon, ok will do
[17:04] <Jordan_U> lapion: What problem are you having? Did you make a snapshot before upgrading?
[17:04] <Diomedes_> Jordan_U: Okay, I selected /dev/sda and /dev/sdb but not /dev/sdb1, right?
[17:04] <dw1> zcheng3_: what did you do before it broke
[17:04] <kostkon> melow01, do you really need both the cli and gui versions of it
[17:04] <Jordan_U> Diomedes_: Correct.
[17:04] <Ravenslock> If I download the skype debian package from the Skype website and install it using "sudo dpkg -i". How will I know whether the linux system knows that it has installed it?
[17:04] <salsero|2> dpkg --get-selections | grep skype
[17:04] <ioudas> guess not
[17:04] <Jordan_U> Diomedes_: Now your computer should boot properly from either drive. You can reboot now.
[17:05] <zcheng3_> previously maybe i installed some other desktop environment, like xfce or something else. And I could not login using unity, but i could still log in using i3
[17:05] <Diomedes_> Jordan_U: Okay, thank you, I will reboot and report if everything is fine. :-)
[17:05] <zcheng3_> than I searched online, people suggest to remove .Xauthoirty
[17:05] <zcheng3_> i did
[17:05] <jubo2> 'xinput list' says the synaptics touchpad is there and is fine
[17:05] <Jordan_U> Diomedes_: You're welcome :)
[17:05] <melow01> kostkon, good point
[17:05] <zcheng3_>  and i cannot login anymore using that account
[17:05] <Exagone313> when the support of 12.04 will end ?
[17:06] <kostkon> Exagone313, april 2017
[17:06] <dw1> zcheng3_: if you switch to text mode (Ctrl-Alt-F1) can you login
[17:06] <Exagone313> ok have time
[17:06] <dw1> zcheng3_: Ctrl-Alt-F7 returns to GUI
[17:06] <ice9> what should be the permissions of .gnupg/gpg.conf?
[17:06] <zcheng3_> yes I can login using that mode
[17:06] <llutz> ice9: 0600
[17:07] <zcheng3_> I should have rename .Xauthority instead of removing it
[17:07] <dw1> zcheng3_: how is your disk space, near full?  df -h
[17:07] <melow01> kostkon, so handbrake-snapshots gave me a warning that those releases are unstable and recommended for developers, how do I get the last stable release instead?
[17:08] <melow01> kostkon, also, I tried it anyway and I still get the same error
[17:08] <ice9> llutz: it's like that but I get unsafe ownership on configuration file
[17:08] <kostkon> melow01, it's fine. you can't, because the main ppa doesn't offer pacakges for saucy and trusty
[17:08] <llutz> ice9: and what is the ownership?
[17:08] <ben_g> It didn't work
[17:08] <melow01> kostkon, I can't grab the one for Raring?
[17:08] <ben_g> It still prints some stuff on the screen, then freezes
[17:08] <kostkon> melow01, you could yes
[17:09] <llutz> ice9: chown you:you file, chmod 0600 file
[17:09] <zcheng3_> the diskspace show many things
[17:09] <lapion> the problem is using aufs on btrfs..
[17:09] <zcheng3_> which one are you interested in?
[17:09] <zcheng3_> dw1?
[17:09] <dw1> zcheng3_: just that none are near 100%
[17:09] <noodle> I'm noob and confuse how to get inside wine directory?  ./wine/doesdevices/ on files explorer?
[17:09] <kostkon> melow01, from here that is https://launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-releases/+packages
[17:09] <ben_g> What I did notice is that at the top of the screen, it said "failed to write bytes: broken pipe". Could that have something to do with the problem?
[17:09] <zcheng3_> have 5 none
[17:10] <kostkon> melow01, open your updater, click on settings, then 3rd party software and remove the ppa from there
[17:10] <zcheng3_> everyone is almost full
[17:10] <ice9> llutz: I'm the owner
[17:10] <zcheng3_> first one size 4k available 4k
[17:10] <lapion> has to to do with using a sandbox
[17:10] <melow01> kostkon, ok thanks
[17:10] <zcheng3_> second 5m available 5m
[17:10] <llutz> ice9: ls -l ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf
[17:10] <zcheng3_> third 2,9g available 2.9g
[17:10] <llutz> ice9: and what is the _exact_ error you get
[17:10] <henrylinux_> salsero|2, how exactly do I have to specify the mount of my old /home
[17:10] <zcheng3_> fourth 100m with 100m available
[17:11] <zcheng3_> oh just 4 of them
[17:11] <ice9> llutz: ah it works fine if I run the command without sudo
[17:11] <zcheng3_> what is next?
[17:11] <henrylinux_> to have it recognized as home on reboot I mean
[17:11] <noodle> I try to show hidden files and folder but still can't see .wine directory on my /home
[17:11] <llutz> ice9: you run gpg with sudo??
[17:11] <jubo2> now hitting "log out" or "restart" doesn't work
[17:11] <ben_g> sudo service lightdm start still freezes (ubuntu 12.04)
[17:11] <dw1> zcheng3_: you can maybe create a new .Xauthority with these 4 commands: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1386329&p=8699969#post8699969
[17:12] <niknak> hewow
[17:12] <chicha> hi
[17:12] <dw1> zcheng3_: i dont know much about it tho
[17:12] <chicha> i've just install 14.04 lts
[17:12] <zcheng3_> i will try
[17:12] <dw1> zcheng3_: you would have to go to prompt as the user
[17:12] <chicha> i've try to install bumblebee
[17:12] <lapion> salsero|2,  the problem has more to do with doing a sandbox install
[17:12] <chicha> with sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia primus linux-headers-generic
[17:12] <fondcole> tmu
[17:12] <dw1> zcheng3_: so maybe copy to a file and read it in the prompt :)
[17:13] <ben_g> Maybe the problem is easier to fix if I explain how I got it:
[17:13] <jelan> Hi all, I have installed 14.04 lts but somehow my server keep loading an old kernel. Yet there is no menu entry for that image. I am puzzled at how this can happen. Any help would be great, thx !
[17:13] <zcheng3_> i found new user account is very slow in 14.04
[17:13] <ben_g> Yesterday, I installed bumblebee to be able to use my dedicated GPU instead of having to use the on-board one all the time
[17:14] <noodle> anybody can help me? how to go inside .wine directory by Files
[17:14] <ben_g> It worked fine yesterday, but when I started my computer today, it won't start in GUI mode anymore
[17:14] <dw1> noodle: in Nautilus Ctrl-H will show hidden files
[17:14] <javier_> @noodle Press Ctrl+H?
[17:14] <ben_g> I've already uninstalled bumblebee and installed the nouveau drivers
[17:14] <noodle> got it.. thanks guys
[17:15] <ben_g> And modified the conf file so it uses nouveau instead of the nvidia drivers
[17:15] <AStorm> hello; I'm trying to install wine on live xubuntu 14.04
[17:15] <ben_g> but I still can't start the GUI
[17:15] <AStorm> it's either crying that wine1.6-i386 is missing or wine1.6-amd64 has an unmet dependency
[17:15] <chicha> please
[17:15] <Diomedes> Jordan_U: Booting seems to be working fine now, thanks a lot! I was really desperate an hour ago. Now just the nvidia configuration app seems to be missing, but I think I will figure that out on my own.
[17:16] <zaiwei> do you guys know how to program a linux utility?
[17:16] <AStorm> ah, 64-bit version
[17:16] <Jordan_U> Diomedes: You're welcome.
[17:16] <chicha> when I run primusglxgears
[17:16] <dw1> zaiwei: #linux might be a better channel
[17:16] <Jordan_U> !anyone | zaiwei
[17:17] <ttttttt> hello
[17:17] <Programmer_> i need some help https://imgur.com/ktGRAXY
[17:17] <leuApodo> hi
[17:17] <zaiwei> thanks
[17:17] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo jelan
[17:18] <gareppa> zaiwei: or maybe #bash
[17:18] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | jelan
[17:18] <yyyyyyy> nothing
[17:18] <dw1> Programmer_: one thing to do... Continue :)
[17:18] <ttttttt> really?
[17:18] <AStorm> apparently that is a common issue (the wine install)
[17:18] <Programmer_> dw1, what you mean?
[17:18] <yyyyyyy> o
[17:19] <Programmer_> dw1, I already continued
[17:19] <dw1> Programmer_: i got errors when I upgraded and things worked fine
[17:19] <dw1> Programmer_: is it broken
[17:19] <Programmer_> i havent rebooted yet
[17:20] <dw1> Programmer_: maybe im not the best to comment :P
[17:20]  * mstevens just upgraded and Xorg started crashing, so I'm trying a reinstall.
[17:21] <javier_> Programmer_ if you have important stuff in there just make a backup and perform a clean install
[17:21] <rrrrrrr> when
[17:21] <mstevens> javier_: I'm not programmer but I'm doing that now :)
[17:21] <rrrrrrr> it
[17:21] <Jordan_U> Programmer_: Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get -f install".
[17:21] <dw1> Programmer_: you could try to copy more of the output and save it somewhere for later reference
[17:21] <Programmer_> I dont want toooo...i already have a backup, but id still have to reinstall all programs and stuff
[17:22] <Briuie> hi
[17:22] <mstevens> hello
[17:22] <javier_> I remember trying to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10... never again lol
[17:22] <mstevens> the last few upgrades have worked for me, this one seems to have fucked up
[17:22] <ben_g> How can I get the GUI of ubuntu tu start if it won't work even when the packages are repaired?
[17:23] <IdleOne> Could we please stop with the swearing.
[17:23] <ben_g> I've also tried reinstalling xsrever-xorg
[17:23] <wefwef> so
[17:23] <javier_> ben_g have you tried switching to a different tty and executing startx?
[17:23] <ben_g> tty?
[17:23] <javier_> Press Ctrl+Alt+F1 for example
[17:23] <Programmer_> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/b22kyYKw
[17:23] <Magiobiwan> So, I'm updating my 14.04 (dev branch) to mainline, and it's holding back linux-generic and related packages. Why is it holding back the kernel update?
[17:24] <ben_g> I tried pressing ctrl+alt+f1 (I thought that was the shortcut for starting the GUI), but it did nothing
[17:24] <Briuie> how could I run Java applets in Chromium?
[17:24] <ttttttt> how
[17:25] <javier_> ben_g do you get a command prompt when you start the computer?
[17:25] <ben_g> Yes
[17:25] <ben_g> My ubuntu install now basically acks as a fullscreen terminal
[17:25] <ubuntuaddicted> i just installed Trusty Tahr within virtualbox and the window is only 640x360. I've already installed the guestadditions but I still can't make it larger. Can someone help me make the window larger please
[17:26] <Programmer_> Jordan_U, you there?
[17:26] <Magiobiwan> ben_g, what happens if you do "startx" in the terminal?
[17:26] <ben_g> It shows a lot of text on the screen, then freezes
[17:26] <blez> ubuntuaddicted same for Parallels in MacOS
[17:26] <ben_g> sudo start service lightdm does the same
[17:26] <blez> but it's 800x600
[17:26] <pmelendez> Hi guys.. Does anybody have had trouble upgrading a server from 13.10?
[17:27] <ubuntuaddicted> blez, i actually just needed to restart the VM, now all is well
[17:27] <gato> .....
[17:27] <Magiobiwan> pmelendez, I was able to do an upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04rc and the only issue I ran into was br0 broke
[17:27] <javier_> ben did it give you any error when reinstalling xserver stuff?
[17:27] <idodeisuke> When I upgraded to 14.04, the touchpad stops working a few minutes after i boot up. You know what  to do?
[17:27] <ben_g> No
[17:28] <dw1> a few people
[17:28] <idodeisuke> When I connect an usb mouse, it works.
[17:28] <ben_g> It seemed to have installed sucesfully
[17:28] <phenton> check the logs for problems
[17:28] <sydneyJDykstra2> What does unopaste Do?
[17:28] <dw1> pmelendez: some, whats up?
[17:28] <phenton> step 1
[17:28] <javier_> Try taking a note of the error before it freezes ben
[17:28] <Programmer_> can someone help me please
[17:28] <ben_g> It also doesn't show an error, it just freezes
[17:28] <pmelendez> Magiobiwan: Thanks Magio... so you could reboot fine?
[17:28] <Magiobiwan> idodeisuke, what type of touchpad? Is it a synaptic?
[17:29] <Magiobiwan> pmelendez, yes. I only ran into a problem when it came back up due to br0 not "existing"
[17:29] <Magiobiwan> And my networking was set up to use br0
[17:29] <pmelendez> dw1: hey! well I tried to upgrade my server from 13.10 over ssh and it won't boot after that
[17:30] <dw1> pmelendez: and you have no physical access ?
[17:30] <pmelendez> lsv: a fellow canadian? :)
[17:30] <idodeisuke> Magiobiwan, Yes, it is a synaptic (according to the mouse config dialogue. I'm running Xubuntu, btw).
[17:30] <Magiobiwan> Hmm
[17:30] <ben_g> It does show "Failed to write bytes: broken pipe" at the top of the screen. Does that count as an error?
[17:30] <javier_> Ben, try typing "dmesg | less" and check for errors related to graphics card
[17:30] <pmelendez> dw1: No.. I don't :( but the provider enabled me a recovery mode and I can access the hard drive
[17:31] <pmelendez> dw1: but there is nothing on the logs
[17:31] <jubo2> how do I best / easiest format an USB stick ?
[17:31] <jubo2> fdisk ?
[17:31] <pmelendez> Magiobiwan: Thanks for sharing that :)
[17:31] <ben_g> brb
[17:31] <Lizards|Work> startup disk creator jubo2
[17:32] <llutz> jubo2: fdisk won't format anything, use mkfs
[17:32] <jubo2> llutz: man mkfs ?
[17:32] <jubo2> prlly yeah.. redundant question..
[17:32] <kchengue> yeah
[17:32] <llutz> jubo2: mkfs.vfat most likely for usb-sticks
[17:33] <Programmer_> can someone help me please
[17:33] <Programmer_> Jordan_U, you there?
[17:33] <javier_> Ben try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/355515/could-not-write-bytes-broken-pipe-12-04   it is for 12.04 but the error is probably the same
[17:35] <ewerton> hello, I installed ubuntu 14.04, openssh-client is different from 12.04. I'm not aware I connect the notebook which is also 14:04. help me
[17:35] <dw1> pmelendez: hmm.. i guess check the logs more... or see if provider can provide a remote console http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_server
[17:35] <dw1> pmelendez: sucks
[17:36] <Jordan_U> Programmer_: sudo mkdir /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/ && sudo apt-get -f install
[17:36] <zcheng3_> hey dw1 it is me again
[17:36] <AStorm> hmm, so, anyone can help with this wine install issue?
[17:36] <zcheng3_> I copy that file for generating xauthority
[17:36] <pmelendez> dw1: well this recovery thing is like a console server since I can mount the hard drive
[17:36] <Programmer_> cannot create directory ‘/etc/dhcp3/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/’: No such file or directory
[17:36] <someHuman> Hello!
[17:36] <Programmer_> Jordan_U, cannot create directory ‘/etc/dhcp3/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/’: No such file or directory
[17:36] <zcheng3_> of course i remove some redundant words
[17:37] <zcheng3_> and I run it
[17:37] <someHuman> I can't boot into 14.04, I've just installed it and am stuck in low-graphics mode.
[17:37] <someHuman> I am using an AMD card and using Windows 8.1 Pro to atm.
[17:37] <zcheng3_> it complained that xauth command is not found
[17:37] <Jordan_U> Programmer_: sudo mkdir -p /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/ && sudo apt-get -f install
[17:37] <aliensbrah> Did you update the drivers someHuman
[17:37] <Dinosaurio> Hi there, time is not appearing in the gnome top bar
[17:37] <pmelendez> dw1: but I dont find anythin on the logs, it is like it never boot up.. maybe a grub problem? it sucks indeed :(
[17:37] <someHuman> aliensbrah: How do I update it? Within Windows or Ubuntu?
[17:38] <dw1> zcheng3_: hmm i have it
[17:38] <tables> how do i get rid of a package cleanly?  configs and EVERYTHING
[17:38] <tables> every file that the package installed
[17:38] <llutz> tables: apt-get purge package
[17:38] <aliensbrah> someHuman, Additional Drivers within Ubuntu
[17:38] <tables> purge will get rid of configs too?
[17:38] <tables> llutz, ^
[17:38] <ewerton> can anyone help me?
[17:38] <someHuman> aliensbrah: I also have 2 ver. of Ubuntu, one spelled starting with small letter and vice versa. Weird.
[17:38] <llutz> tables: won't touch personal configs
[17:38] <dw1> zcheng3_: how bout installing it
[17:38] <llutz> ewerton: ask your question
[17:38] <gbear14275> Do I install grub to the disk? (dev/sda) or to the boot partition (dev/sda1)
[17:38] <ubuntuaddicted> hmmm, i just upgraded to 14.04 and now I can't write a file to my NAS. it's mounted using CIFS
[17:38] <someHuman> aliensbrah: Ah no, I didn't do any update while 14.04 was installing.
[17:38] <AStorm> so, I really, *really* cannot figure out why apt-get install wine just plain fails
[17:39] <Morclye> I just installed Ubuntu Server 14.04 and I cannot get it to use assigned static IP from my router's DHCP server.
[17:39] <zcheng3_> ok
[17:39] <AStorm> (yes, as root)
[17:39] <Programmer_> Jordan_U, i keep get an error when it tries to remove linux kernels
[17:39] <ewerton> llutz, I installed ubuntu 14.04, openssh-client is different from 12.04. I'm not aware I connect the notebook which is also 14:04.
[17:39] <someHuman> aliensbrah: I just installed it without connection.
[17:39] <wfsdf> hi
[17:39] <Jordan_U> gbear14275: grub's boot sector always goes in the MBR (so choose the disk).
[17:39] <someHuman> wfsdf: Hi!
[17:39] <noodle> why I can't mounting another partition?
[17:39] <aliensbrah> someHuman, Ubuntu finishes booting correct, it's just low res?
[17:39] <gbear14275> thanks Jordan_U
[17:39] <someHuman> aliensbrah: Exactly!
[17:39] <llutz> ewerton: thats not a question. 14.04 comes with a newer version, yes. so what is your problem with it?
[17:39] <someHuman> aliensbrah: Could you PM me?
[17:39] <noodle> Error mounting /dev/sda3 at /media/noodle/F80A8CB50A8C7304: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o
[17:39] <AStorm> says that I have held broken packages
[17:40] <Programmer_> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/Za6YJNkc
[17:40] <AStorm> which is quite funny, as this is a fresh xubuntu 14.04
[17:40] <noodle> he disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0).
[17:40] <noodle> Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount.
[17:40] <ewerton> llutz: I can not connect the notebook
[17:41] <llutz> ewerton: the error is?
[17:41] <llutz> ewerton: your exact command is?
[17:41] <noodle> Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume
[17:41] <noodle> read-only with the 'ro' mount option.
[17:41] <noodle> I using Files
[17:42] <Jordan_U> Programmer_: Please pastebin the output of "sudo update-grub".
[17:42] <idodeisuke> Magiobiwan, I found at least a temporary solution: http://www.tuxtrix.com/2010/06/restarting-your-touchpadmouse-in-ubuntu.html
[17:42] <AStorm> ah, I see, multiarch is off?
[17:42] <asfwefw> hi
[17:42] <Programmer_> Jordan_U, /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of `none'.
[17:42] <javier_> noodle try using the norecover option
[17:42] <asfwefw> hello
[17:42] <Programmer_> that's the error
[17:42] <dw1> pmelendez: maybe some chroot magic will help you http://aaronbonner.io/post/21103731114/chroot-into-a-broken-linux-install
[17:42] <ubuntuaddicted> do you guys use fstab to mount cifs and nfs shares or something else like autofs?
[17:42] <mozzarella> guys that's slightly blurry: http://i.imgur.com/0i9cq2d.png
[17:42] <ewerton> llutz: exemple... smb://foo.exemple.org... but as I do if <IP_ADDRESS>?
[17:43] <llutz> ewerton: smb is windows-share not ssh
[17:43] <ben_g> I tried dmesg | less and I found nothing abouth the graphics card, appart from that it has 2048M useable memory
[17:43] <llutz> !ssh | ewerton
[17:44] <ben_g> javier_: ^
[17:44] <ewerton> how do I network between two computers running ubuntu?
[17:44] <Jordan_U> Programmer_: Please pastebin the contents of /proc/mounts.
[17:44] <javier_> Did you take a look at the link I posted afer that? Seems to be the same error.
[17:44] <javier_> *after
[17:44] <Dinosaurio> How to report a bug if the program hasn't crashed? I mean another kind of bug
[17:45] <Programmer_> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/k234XVHx
[17:45] <pmelendez> dw1: Thanks man... I will try that
[17:45] <ben_g> I think I was already switching tu ubuntu then, sorry, could you repost that link?
[17:45] <ouoip> hello
[17:46] <leuApodo> hi every
[17:46] <Dinosaurio> !bug > Dinosaurio
[17:47] <dw1> ewerton: if its for small-ish files and you want easy-mode, dropbox :P
[17:47] <ben_g> javier_: could you please repost the link to the similar problem?
[17:48] <jakemp> I don't suppose there is a way to have my 4x4 virtual desktops/viewports convert to 2x2 whenever I plug in a second monitor, instead of having ubuntu jumble all my windows around.
[17:48] <javier_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/355515/could-not-write-bytes-broken-pipe-12-04         Seems to be a driver issue. In another post it said reinstalling 'ubuntu-desktop' solved the problem.
[17:48] <jakemp> erm, 4x2*
[17:48] <ewerton> my internet connection is 2mb
[17:48] <rrrrrr> hi
[17:48] <Reptilia> I've installed Xubuntu 14.04 on my laptop, but when i run applications, they won't appear in the taskbar, although they are running.
[17:48] <Jordan_U> Programmer_: Do you have any idea why /boot/ and many other directories are aufs mounts?
[17:48] <Programmer_> no
[17:48] <Programmer_> dont know what that even means
[17:49] <Jordan_U> Programmer_: What command did you use to try to upgrade?
[17:49] <Programmer_> could be when i was trying to upgrade grub
[17:49] <zcheng3_> thank you dw1
[17:49] <Programmer_> do-release-upgrade
[17:49] <zcheng3_> it works
[17:49] <dw1> zcheng3_: wow
[17:49] <Unismurfhedgehog> !info wine trusty
[17:49] <Programmer_> but then i got errors, and when it finished, i did dist-upgrade
[17:50] <dw1> zcheng3_: a miracle :P
[17:50] <zcheng3_> hehe surely it is
[17:50] <Programmer_> Jordan_U, should i retry do-release-upgrade?
[17:50] <zcheng3_> the odd thing is that previously even I had that file, I still could not login
[17:50] <halfshell> !isitout
[17:50] <dw1> zcheng3_: yeah and should just be regenerated normally i think
[17:50] <Lizards|Work> so chromium is going to be broken indefinitely?
[17:50] <zcheng3_> i should have saved that file and compare it with the newly generated one
[17:51] <kenshiro> Hi, after upgrade Ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04, if I install nvidia proprietary drivers (331 for my Geforce gt 640) system can't start properly. Is there any fix for this?
[17:51] <ben_g> javier_: thanks, I'll try that
[17:51] <ben_g> brb
[17:51] <kenshiro> I installed using "software updater" window
[17:51] <inkjetunito> does 14.04 use systemd?
[17:51] <django> kenshiro: by any chance was your computer overheating due to the graphics card??
[17:51] <Jordan_U> Programmer_: Are you sure that you didn't add "-s" or "--sandbox" to the do-release-upgrade command?
[17:51] <Programmer_> i did
[17:51] <Programmer_> before i actually did it
[17:51] <kenshiro> django No, I have thermal monitor and all temperatures are ok
[17:52] <django> kenshiro: damn b/c on my laptop it gets hotter since both my integrated and nvidia graphics cards are running
[17:52] <kenshiro> django I have a desktop computer with only one nvidia card. I have to stick to nouveau driver or system can't start
[17:52] <Jordan_U> Programmer_: You need to reboot between sandbox upgrading and actual upgrading (and sandbox upgrading is broken and will always fail).
[17:52] <Programmer_> Jordan_U, so what now?
[17:53] <Jordan_U> Programmer_: Reboot then upgrade normally, no --sandbox.
[17:53] <Programmer_> Jordan_U, but it already upgraded a lot of stuff. without using sandbox
[17:54] <Programmer_> are you sure ill be able to boot up?
[17:54] <Programmer_> Jordan_U, after i did "do-release-upgrade -s" i then did "do-release-upgrade"
[17:54] <Jordan_U> Programmer_: You never left "sandbox mode". Nothing has actually been upgraded.
[17:54] <Snake2k> Hello everyone, can someone tell me how to use boot-repair on 14.04?
[17:55] <Snake2k> the ppa only has packages upto 13.10
[17:55] <Programmer_> dammit. that is a day ill never get back
[17:55] <leuApodo> hi!
[17:55] <Programmer_> so Jordan_U you sure?
[17:56] <dw1> trust the expert :p
[17:56] <trtrtr> hi
[17:56] <leuApodo> really good
[17:57] <Programmer_> dw1, that for me?
[17:57] <dw1> kenws: what about apt-get install nvidia-current
[17:57] <dw1> kenws: not for you nm
[17:57] <onefix_work> Anyone know if it's true that do-release-upgrade will not work on 12.04 until 14.04.1 is out?
[17:57] <dw1> Programmer_: yea ......
[17:57] <Programmer_> ok ill try it
[17:57] <Programmer_> im scared
[17:58] <mstevens> my reinstall is looking promising
[17:58] <dw1> good, some positivity
[17:59] <dw1> onefix_work: it wont work without -d argument for development mode as i understand.. and if you want stability, should wait
[17:59] <idodeisuke> bye
[18:00] <miggeli> german please
[18:00] <llutz> !de | miggeli
[18:01] <trtrtr> hi
[18:02] <leuApodo> hello
[18:03] <sydneyJDykstra2> hi!!
[18:04] <allstarsnorks2> Guys, how do I change my music's properties on Ubuntu?
[18:04] <Programmer-N7> Jordan_U:  I'm stuck at the kubuntu boot screen
[18:05] <ubuntuaddicted> something changed from 12.04 to 14.04 that I am now getting "error writing permission" on my NAS. It still writes the file but just can't set it's permissions. which I don't care if it can or can't set the permissions of the file
[18:05] <ben_g> javier: it didn't work
[18:05] <xangua> allstarsnorks2: define music's properties
[18:05] <ben_g> The first few times I booted, it even freezed before I could logg in.
[18:06] <Programmer-N7> Samehere
[18:06] <ben_g> And when I finally managed to logg in, it still froze while starting the x server
[18:06] <lpp> does anyone have trusty working on dual monitor?
[18:06] <glumetu> yes i do with nvidia
[18:06] <tyrog> Hi, which is better, Ubuntu or Kubuntu? For modern PC. thanks
[18:07] <dw1> coke or pepsi? :)
[18:07] <glumetu> i will say go with the real think
[18:07] <yeats> !poll | tyrog
[18:07] <Programmer_> finally got it booted
[18:07] <glumetu> umm can i get some help .. my menu bar is missing
[18:07] <Gerowen> tyrog: It's really just opinion I believe.  Unity is a modern UI in my opinion that would work well on a newer PC.  KDE is as well, so I would say just boot the LiveCD of each and try it out and see what you think.
[18:07] <bossmowduz> hi
[18:08] <tyrog> yeats: what?
[18:08] <dw1> glumetu: this one? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1315949
[18:08] <allstarsnorks2_> by music properties, I meant the artist, the album art, the name and the track.
[18:08] <ben_g> javier_: It still doesn't work
[18:08] <tyrog> Gerowen: thanks i will try both. Which one do you prefer, btw?
[18:08] <AStorm> tyrog, Gerowen is a bot
[18:08] <bossmowduz> i have problems setting a display resolution of 1920x1080 (the one i want) with nvidia-settings (connected via vga, cant do xxxxxx about this right now)
[18:08] <dw1> glumetu: might have to hold alt while right click to add
[18:08] <Gerowen> I like Unity.  I had a bad experience with the new version of KDE years ago, but it has apparently improved quite a bit since then.
[18:09] <AStorm> or was he
[18:09] <Gerowen> AStorm: Nope, :-)
[18:09] <tyrog> AStorm: lol
[18:09] <glumetu> no dw1 on all my open windows
[18:09] <AStorm> anyway, wine; install problem; on xubuntu
[18:09] <glumetu> no minimize no close
[18:09] <javier_> ben_g: I'm at a loss then. Was this an upgrade or a fresh install?
[18:09] <xangua> allstarsnorks2_: you can use any tag editor from the software center I guess
[18:10] <glumetu> in my case was the distro update
[18:10] <trtrtr> -where can i
[18:10] <lpp> allstarsnorks2_: It's hard to understand what you are asking. i thnk you want to change the metadata (ID3 tags) for mp3 and such like. You want an ID3 editor or tag editor. there are plenty in the ubuntu software centere
[18:10] <Gerowen> AStorm: What's going on with wine?  Are you installing it from the repos/package manager?
[18:10] <ben_g> It was already over a week old, but then it was indeed a fresh install
[18:10] <AStorm> Gerowen, yes, main repo
[18:10] <yeats> allstarsnorks2_: I missed your original question, but picard is nice for organizing music metadata
[18:10] <AStorm> xubuntu 14.04 amd64, fresh live
[18:10] <albi> Guys, what would you say is the best distro for gaming (not steam OS)
[18:10] <Gerowen> AStorm: What is it doing, or not doing?
[18:10] <AStorm> (on a writable pendrive)
[18:10] <AStorm> let me pastebin
[18:10] <lpp> albi: What kind of gaming?
[18:10] <m1chael> Trying to register the VirtualBox kernel modules using DKMSError! Your kernel headers for kernel 3.8.0-19-generic cannot be found.  Please install the linux-headers-3.8.0-19-generic package,
[18:11] <albi> General
[18:11] <yeats> !ot | albi
[18:11] <albi> :p
[18:11] <m1chael> i can't seem to get around this error
[18:11] <dw1> glumetu: what if you press Alt or put the mouse at top left of screen
[18:11] <lpp> albi: general what?
[18:11] <albi> well..
[18:11] <Programmer_> should i do "do-release-upgrade"  with sudo?
[18:11] <ben_g> Should I try to reinstall? And if I do so, is there a way to keep my files safe?
[18:11] <albi> I have a large steam Library
[18:11] <glumetu> dw1 no still missing
[18:11] <ben_g> Especially the files on the windows partition
[18:11] <albi> and it would be nice if I could play at least some of my games
[18:12] <AStorm> Gerowen, says I have held broken packages
[18:12] <yeats> Programmer_: are you asking *if* you should upgrade, or *how*?
[18:12] <jhutchins> ben_g: Make a copy on a removable device.
[18:12] <Gerowen> AStorm: Try doing sudo apt-get -f install
[18:12] <lpp> albi: If steam, most of that runs on ubuntu under wine. valve recommends ubuntu for linux right now, despite having steamOS incubating
[18:12] <subsume> Fresh install of 14.04 W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/mirrors.linode.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_main_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[18:12] <Gerowen> No package names after that, it should attempt to fix broken deps and such.
[18:12] <ncp> possible to move close,minimize.. to right corner instead of left? google says it's not possible in 14.04, but someone might now fix? :)
[18:12] <Programmer_> how
[18:12] <subsume> apt-get update busted?
[18:12] <trtrtr> hello all
[18:12] <Guest60370> io non ci credo
[18:12] <m1chael> Trying to register the VirtualBox kernel modules using DKMSError! Your kernel headers for kernel 3.8.0-19-generic cannot be found.  Please install the linux-headers-3.8.0-19-generic package,.   it looks like it installed 'linux-headers-3.11.0-19-lowlatency'  and then complains about 3.8....    any ideas on this? http://dpaste.com/1785381/
[18:12] <trtrtr> how are you
[18:12] <Guest60370> hanno fatto un casino su xubuntu 14.04
[18:12] <AStorm> Gerowen, same
[18:12] <subsume> should i not be using 14.04?
[18:13] <dw1> glumetu:  System Settings > Appearance > Behavior > under 'Show the menus for a window' > select "In the window's title bar" ?
[18:13] <yeats> Programmer_: from the CLI, yes 'sudo do-release-upgrade' works - otherwise you should be offered an upgrade via the software center
[18:13] <albi> maybe I will fresh install windows
[18:13] <ben_g> jhutchins: is there a way to do that from windows? (I'm still a noob when it comes to working in the terminal)
[18:13] <Guest60370> hi guys
[18:13] <django> anyone here know how to use bumblebee
[18:13] <i-make-robots> hi ubuntu.  i've been struggling to get a comodo positiveSSL cert installed.  results: http://pastebin.com/pWMgK9EF  apache: http://pastebin.com/4NLXRtXR  iptables: http://pastebin.com/zWtfPHpJ  what am i doing wrong, please?
[18:13] <yeats> Programmer_: or update-manager, rather
[18:13] <albi> and then install a nice distro for general usage
[18:13] <javier_> ben_g: You can try using the livecd. It should be able to mount your partitions so you can copy your important stuff to an USB driver or something.
[18:13] <Gerowen> AStorm: Does it list which packages are broken?
[18:13] <Guest60370> i can-t believe they-ve fucked up xubuntu 14.04
[18:13] <lpp> albi: what specificalyl are you having trouble with?
[18:13] <AStorm> no, says wine1.6 will not be installed
[18:13] <albi> nothing
[18:13] <albi> just trying to drop windows as much as possible
[18:13] <Gerowen> AStorm: Also try a "sudo apt-get autoremove", it is normally used to remove packages that were installed as dependencies and are no longer needed, and might fix this issue.
[18:13] <Guest60370> eveything is fucked up and just assume that 13.10 worked so good
[18:13] <yeats> Guest60370: did you have a support question?
[18:13] <subsume> lol
[18:14] <kostkon> Guest60370, please keep your language clean
[18:14] <Guest60370> yeats,  yeah. where can i take back 13.10
[18:14] <subsume> is everyone here bitching about 14.04 being busted?
[18:14] <AStorm> Gerowen, 0 changes; it's a fresh new xubuntu live 14.04 amd64, as I've mentioned
[18:14] <yeats> Guest60370: download the ISO and reinstall
[18:14] <ben_g> javier_: does it also work with a newly-generated flash drive?
[18:14] <AStorm> I did run apt-get update before
[18:14] <subsume> apt-get update doesn't even work form e!
[18:14] <AStorm> (and upgrade too, no changes)
[18:14] <subsume> for me *
[18:14] <Gerowen> AStorm: Oh so you haven't done "anything" except try to install wine.  That's weird then.
[18:14] <ben_g> I've reformated the one I used to save backups on it
[18:14] <Guest60370> yeats, where ? in ubuntu site there is only the last version
[18:14] <glumetu> dw1 i've checked the box still nothing happen
[18:15] <javier_> ben_g: Yes, it should. I installed yesterday from one of those.
[18:15] <tyrog> Gerowen: do you use online search feature?
[18:15] <tyrog> in the dash
[18:15] <subsume> wtvr i am downgrading
[18:15] <subsume> 14.04 is trash for now
[18:15] <lpp> trusty has broken my multi-monitor setup for sure, i think it's drivers or kernel
[18:15] <Guest60370> subsume, i saw
[18:15] <dw1> glumetu: hmm no clue
[18:15] <yeats> Guest60370: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Xubuntu/13.10/release/
[18:15] <glumetu> IT ISN"T TRASH
[18:15] <subsume> yeah it is
[18:15] <Gerowen> AStorm: Here's a topic I found on the forums where somebody had a similar issue, and there are some suggestions that apparently fixed it for them. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=947124
[18:15] <subsume> i can't even apt-get update on a fresh install
[18:16] <glumetu> it's bets cause now it has support for my wacom
[18:16] <Guest60370> yeats, thank you
[18:16] <trtrtrtr> hi everone
[18:16] <trtrtrtr> muy bien y tu?
[18:16] <Dinosaurio> any good obsolet packages cleaner program?
[18:16] <glumetu> my wacom tablet is working so big thanks Ubuntu
[18:16] <Gerowen> tyrog: In the Unity menu?  Yeah, occasionally.  I've thought about turning it off because usually when I search Amazon I actually go to their site in my browser, but for now it is working and I've used it a time or two.
[18:16] <AStorm> maybe it having the "cdrom" repos breaks things?
[18:16] <AStorm> I mean, sources.list
[18:17] <Gerowen> AStorm: Maybe, but I wouldn't think so because I've installed packages on live systems before.  Not wine, but I have installed stuff before on Live installs.
[18:17] <subsume> I found this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1301804 but i'm not upgrading
[18:17] <subsume> unless linode packaged it as an upgrade
[18:17] <Gerowen> AStorm: tyrog: Hate to run guys but I've gotta head to work, catch you all later.
[18:17] <subsume> I'm getting hash sum mismatch anyone else?
[18:18] <tyrog> bye
[18:18] <yeats> subsume: seen this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/41605/trouble-downloading-updates-due-to-a-hash-sum-mismatch-error
[18:18] <Guest60370> yeats, now i-m in live. can you tell how can i reach that link throught google?
[18:18] <subsume> no thanks
[18:18] <trtrtr> hi all
[18:18] <subsume> yeats: same error
[18:19] <trtrtr> muy bien y tu?
[18:19] <yeats> !es | trtrtr
[18:19] <Guest60370> yeats, you got what i mean_
[18:19] <ashish> using ubuntu14.04. gtalk not able to connet from empathy. error "google talk account require authorization"
[18:20] <lpp> subsume: they are sating it;s an ISP issue with caching: the isp has an old version of the mirror
[18:20] <subsume> lpp: hmm well can i use a mirror or somethin...?
[18:20] <yeats> Guest60370: on this page: http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ - there is a list of mirrors - click one, then replace "14.04" with "13.10" in the URL
[18:20] <AStorm> how can I list held packages?
[18:20] <Guest60370> yeats, thank you
[18:20] <lpp> subsume: Yes you can change the download source, in the configuration for the software updatee
[18:20] <subsume> lpp: or can i use heartbleed to login to their box and flush varnish?
[18:21] <subsume> i dunno how llp
[18:21] <Programmer_> Jordan_U, since i did the upgrade in sandbox mode, would that speed up the actual upgrade? b/c it's already upgrade stuff
[18:21] <ashish> using ubuntu14.04. gtalk not able to connet from empathy. error "google talk account require authorization"
[18:21] <lpp> subsume: Software Updater. Settings button.
[18:21] <subsume> its headless
[18:22] <subsume> can i just comment it out in sources.list?
[18:22] <yeats> ashish: open "Online Accounts" and re-authorize it there
[18:22] <lpp> subsume: i think it's etc/apt/sources or something .. I don't remember
[18:22] <Guest60370> yeats, may i ask you another think. i tried to enable inbernation in 14.04 using the same way of 13.10 but it didnt work. do you know how
[18:22] <Dinosaurio> any good obsolet packages cleaner program?
[18:23] <yeats> Guest60370: sorry, I don't know that
[18:23] <subsume> oh
[18:23] <subsume> its a linode mirror
[18:23] <subsume> W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/mirrors.linode.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_main_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[18:23] <ashish> yeats: i reopened it and tried. i also tried to remove and add account again but nothing happened
[18:23] <Guest60370> yeats, ok thank you anyway
[18:23] <johefernan> i cant fkin use ubuntu on virtualbox since 13.04
[18:24] <johefernan> Grrr
[18:24] <johefernan> Hate Canonical
[18:24] <Dinosaurio> Is there any program that can remove old kernels, cache...?
[18:24] <johefernan> XO
[18:24] <subsume> no
[18:24] <Jordan_U> Programmer_: The one thing that the sandbox upgrade keeps is the package cache, so there is no need to re-download any packages.
[18:24] <subsume> apt-get install rm
[18:24] <Guest60370> does anybody guys now how to enable inbernation in 14.04
[18:24] <Dinosaurio> johefernan: get windows, it's faster
[18:24] <ashish> Dinosaurio: use tweak tool or bleachbit
[18:24] <johefernan> nah, i still using suse
[18:24] <Programmer_> ok thought so
[18:24] <johefernan> XD
[18:24] <Programmer_> bc it's already upgrading stuff
[18:24] <Dinosaurio> ashish: okay
[18:25] <Programmer_> guess that is a positive about me being stupid and not restarting
[18:25] <ashish> using ubuntu14.04. gtalk not able to connet from empathy. error "google talk account require authorization"
[18:25] <bawzzzz> hello
[18:26] <bawzzzz> i just installed ubuntu and my display resolution doesnt get detected since its connected via vga. how can i manually set my monitor
[18:26] <bawzzzz> s resolution
[18:26] <Jordan_U> Programmer_: You would have still had the package cache even if you had only run do-release-upgrade -s and rebooted. Keepong the package cache is by design.
[18:27] <yeats> ashish: you could try running 'online-account-preferences' from the command line and see if there are any errors there when you try
[18:27] <bawzzzz> i have nvidia gtx 460 + intel sandy bridge gpu
[18:27] <MnCC> my upgrade failed, restored from backup everything is fine again.
[18:27] <Daghdha> Hi, i look at this p age and do what it says but my system don't have the updater. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[18:27] <bawzzzz> nvidia is primary
[18:28] <Daghdha> Is that made with and for 14.04 by any chance?
[18:28] <i-make-robots> i've been struggling to get a comodo positiveSSL cert installed.  results: http://pastebin.com/pWMgK9EF  apache: http://pastebin.com/4NLXRtXR  iptables: http://pastebin.com/zWtfPHpJ  what am i doing wrong, please?
[18:28] <Programmer_> Jordan_U, well i feel better about not knowing to reboot after sandbox mode
[18:28] <tyrog> Daghdha: that tutorial is for 13.10
[18:28] <Programmer_> now everything is working fine w/o issues
[18:29] <Daghdha> wait, screenshot and text say diff things
[18:30] <Daghdha> I see.. still isuggest you scrutinize that page it seems to have odd texts
[18:30] <x0rs> Anyone know a freenode chat room concerning networks or servers?
[18:31] <DanC_> I'm struggling to get multiple workspaces working in gnome flashback compiz. I can switch to another workspace, but it's blank, with no panels, and no way to get back. clues?
[18:31] <ashish> yeats: no error. its opening all the accounts i added
[18:31] <llutz> !alis | x0rs
[18:31] <x0rs> llutz, thank you
[18:31] <lmat> in schroot environments, those environments should be symbolic links generally, right ?
[18:31] <StreakyJ> anyone tried to put 14.04 on the hp tablet - the one that had webos
[18:31] <lmat> I noticed my chroot (which I don't use very much at all) is like 450 Gb
[18:31] <StreakyJ> figured w/ the touch screen stuff allegedly fixed...
[18:32] <OSaddict> How do you easily create a launcher for a WINE app without manually creating a .desktop file?
[18:32] <ashish> i removed ubuntu access from my gmail security. then again grand access but again same issue
[18:32] <Daghdha> I understood yesterday from chat here that upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04 was supported. The page i am looking at seems to indicate i have to go 12.04 -> 12.10 -> 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04
[18:32] <DanC_> I just did 12.04 to 14.04, so I know it works
[18:32] <lmat> In fact, baobab (Disk Usage Analyzer) says that my drive capacity is 392 Gb (I only have one harddrive in this laptop), and the size of / is 663.9 Gb...
[18:32] <lmat> Surely Disk Usage Analyzer isn't following symbolic links, righT ?
[18:32] <DanC_> if you're on one of the non-LTS releases, you have to take each one in turn. but you can go from LTS to LTS
[18:33] <kostkon> Daghdha, no
[18:33] <kostkon> Daghdha, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/upgrade-ubuntu-14-04-12-04
[18:34] <Daghdha> Sweet, thanks
[18:35] <OSaddict> How do you make a launcher for a WINE program? Dragging it from the dash to the launcher bar does nothing.
[18:35] <Daghdha> Danc: How long did it take? roughly. 10 mins, 4 hours. I have no clue. My inet us super fast
[18:35] <lmat> OSaddict: #wine-dev I believe
[18:35] <lmat> OSaddict: But this is common, the wine website has instructions on this.
[18:35] <DanC_> 2 or 3 hours, I think
[18:36] <DanC_> net bandwidth is one issue, but there's a lot of disk and CPU activity too
[18:36] <Daghdha> cpu is slow
[18:36] <Daghdha> Ok thanks. Will look into dooinglater
[18:37] <ashish> using ubuntu14.04. gtalk not able to connet from empathy. error "google talk account require authorization"
[18:41] <django> anyone here do android dev on ubuntu??
[18:42] <AStorm> django, yes, it's trivial?
[18:43] <django> AStorm: i go into the adt-bundle-linux, then click on eclipse folder..then eclipse and i get a damn error
[18:43] <django> jvm terminated exit code = 13
[18:43] <AStorm> eclipse from repos or the binary?
[18:43] <inkjetunito> so, i installed 14.04 in a virtual box. how is the guest addition package called?
[18:44] <AStorm> inkjetunito, apt-cache search virtualbox
[18:44] <AStorm> :)
[18:44] <AStorm> yw
[18:44] <inkjetunito> AStorm: yeah, my desktop is like 400x300 pixels large. hard to read the output
[18:44] <django> AStorm: idk what that menas
[18:44] <AStorm> django, that's probably some missing access rights
[18:44] <Programmer_>   gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache isnt working
[18:45] <AStorm> (if it is errno)
[18:45] <AStorm> inkjetunito, virtualbox-guest-x11
[18:45] <ghostnik11> can anyone tell me a good calender program for ubuntu
[18:45] <inkjetunito> AStorm: thank you very much
[18:46] <ghostnik11> please i don't have a lot of time for internet
[18:46] <ghostnik11> also is their any prorams for ubuntu that help prounce words in spanish, french and portugese
[18:48] <fisch246> hello I just upgraded to 14.04 from 13.10 last night. I'm having problems with the feature of opening applications with the middle mouse button. Unity seems to never know when an application has closed, so after I closer (and I have confirmed it was closed) I can't reopen it with a left click. Only the middle mouse works. Any ideas?
[18:48] <Programmer_> (gtk-update-icon-cache-3.0:10959): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache': No such file or directory
[18:49] <Programmer_> Jordan_U, can you help
[18:50] <noooob> how can i use gnome-shell on trusty?? I installed package gnome-shell and tried to login via gdm but gnome shell is not listed there and unity does not start properly from gdm !!!
[18:52] <ghostnik11> which one uses less data or requires less data imap or pop3
[18:52] <noooob> is gnome3 supported on trusty?
[18:53] <OerHeks> ghostnik11, both are different, one pulls mail fom the server, other pulls copy from server.
[18:54] <ghostnik11> OerHeks, yeah but i have to pay for data via my phone which only has access to email, so i want to know which one needs less data
[18:54] <ghostnik11> OerHeks, i know imap is better but does it require more data to use it than pop3
[18:54] <OerHeks> noooob, try ubuntu-gnome-desktop for gnome3 desktop
[18:55] <trtrtr> hello all
[18:55] <trtrtr> helllo
[18:55] <mimor> hi
[18:55] <someHuman> aliensbrah: Dude!
[18:55] <lmat> trtrtr: HIHI!
[18:55] <OerHeks> ghostnik11, dunno if one uses more data ( few bytes) to recieve, try it?
[18:56] <someHuman> aliensbrah: I did it! Thanks man! Mwah! Hahaha!
[18:56] <someHuman> I'm in 14.04 bitches!
[18:56] <noooob> OerHeks: thanks i will try that
[18:56] <fisch246> anyone know what the launcher is called in 14.04? I'm trying to file a bug for it, but I don't know its name.
[18:56] <someHuman> aliensbrah: See you around! ;)
[18:57] <abishek> how to setup a cron job that runs every hour?
[18:57] <Cheekio> Is the 13.10 > 14.04 upgrade process reliable? I don't want take the plunge if there's significant risk to my workstation.
[18:57] <OerHeks> fisch246, that sidepanel is called unity
[18:57] <retentiveboy> ghostnik11: POP is for downloading messages only.  IMAP on the other hand lets your client browse headers and only download what you want.  The actualy bandwith used depends on what you choose to download.
[18:57] <AlanBell> fisch246: it is called the launcher :)
[18:57] <fisch246> Well I mean as a package.
[18:58] <AlanBell> fisch246: but the bug would be filed against the unity package
[18:58] <fisch246> would I just use ubuntu-bug unity?
[18:58] <AlanBell> ubuntu-bug unity
[18:58] <fisch246> mmk
[18:58] <jmhodges> hey, trying to get an unprivileged clone with CLONE_NEWUSER|CLONE_NEWNS in 14.04, but the NEWNS still seems to require cap_sys_admin. i'm hearing some rumors that there's something in /proc/sys/kernel to allow it, but can't find any files that seem likely. is that a thing? if not, is there another way to get unprivilieged NEWNS clones?
[18:58] <ghostnik11> retentiveboy, the internet speed i have here is edge speeds for my phone, since imap downloads a full message, wouldn't pop3 be better and faster and less data intensive
[18:58] <fisch246> thanks :)
[18:58] <kostkon> fisch246, check your xsession-errors file for any errors related to that   e.g.  gedit  ~/.xsession-errors
[18:59] <kostkon> fisch246, you could also try resetting unity/compiz
[18:59] <retentiveboy> ghostnik11: depends on how you use it.  If you plan on downloading everything, stick with POP.  If you plan to interact and choose what to download, you'll need to use IMAP.  Sorry but we can be more definitive.  Depends.
[18:59] <eteteww> hi hi
[18:59] <fisch246> It's not a graphical problem. I've also restarted many times. The problem is that I can't reopen any program. I just ran into a post of someone having the same problem.
[18:59] <eteteww> hi eerytone
[19:00] <jmhodges> (i suppose i should mention that CLONE_NEWNS does work as root, etc)
[19:00] <kostkon> fisch246, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html  or perhaps reinstalling bamfdaemon.
[19:00] <lukiluke_> hi there .. . could somebody help me with setting up a emu sound card 1616m with alsa on xubuntu 14.04 would be realy great :)
[19:00] <adminewb> hi all -- is it possible with update manager to upgrade directly from precise to trusty?
[19:00] <AceFaade> hello all!
[19:00] <ghostnik11> retentiveboy, i don't want to download everything i just need to find out which is faster and less data intensive as data adds up
[19:01] <adminewb>  ... and would one want to use a loop mounted ISO for the purpose?
[19:01] <kostkon> fisch246, and obviously do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade just to be sure
[19:01] <AceFaade> I am interested in installing Mate Desktop on top of ubuntu server, but i cannot get it to boot to the desktop like i can with 13.10
[19:01] <noooob_> OerHeks: thanks that seems to work
[19:02] <AceFaade> Would ubuntu 14.04 server support installing gnome-flashback?
[19:02] <OerHeks> noooob_, have fun
[19:02] <retentiveboy> ghostnik11: we can't be as definitive as you seem to be looking for.  testing it yourself is the only way to know for sure.  Both POP and IMAP download a "full message".
[19:02] <abd0> exit
[19:03] <retentiveboy> Imap just lets you choose which messages but you'd download the headers to know which message is available first so more bandwidth in total if you end up downloading all the messages
[19:03] <ruzicka> ATA-8-ACS revision 3b means it's SATA III? Alternatively how do I find out which HDD/SSD I can buy?
[19:03] <james13> I would like to ask a question.I have ubuntu 13 and says i have lots of updates.Can i bypass all the updates and go to 14 update
[19:04] <kostkon> james13, i'm afraid the answer is.. no
[19:04] <syeekick> does ubuntu 14.04 repos include aircrack, reaver, metasploit, ettercap, etc?
[19:04] <Beldar> james13, Why would you want to?
[19:04] <ncp> possible to move close,minimize.. to right corner instead of left?
[19:04] <james13> thanks guys love the help and this room.have a nice day
[19:05] <Beldar> ncp, In dconf-editor yes
[19:05] <Joel> in 12.04 libevent-2.0-5 installs into /usr/lib, in 13.10 it installs into /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu, is there an alternative package, or an option when installing or something, to automatically symlink /usr/lib/libevent.so to the correct spot?
[19:05] <ncp> ok thanks
[19:06] <adminewb> hi all -- is it possible with update manager to upgrade directly from precise to trusty?  and would one want to use a loop mounted ISO for the purpose?
[19:06] <kostkon> adminewb, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/upgrade-ubuntu-14-04-12-04
[19:07] <adminewb> thanks kostkon
[19:08] <ruzicka> sad bump: ATA-8-ACS revision 3b means it's SATA III? Alternatively how do I find out which HDD/SSD I can buy?
[19:10] <OerHeks> ruzicka, most likely google has the answer or join #hardware
[19:10] <ruzicka> OerHeks: tried google, didn't find anything helpful
[19:11] <ruzicka> I'll try ##hardware
[19:11] <ncp> Beldar, http://askubuntu.com/questions/440169/my-ubuntu-14-04-window-controls-dont-changes-after-setting-in-dconf-editor
[19:11] <ncp> you know workaround?
[19:11] <fisch246> alright submitted the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1309701
[19:12] <Beldar> ncp, Did you even try?
[19:12] <ncp> yes ofc, did not work
[19:13] <Name141> Will I be notified to upgrade to the latest LTS if I have an LTS version
[19:13] <OerHeks> ncp, logout and login again?
[19:13] <fisch246> Name141: not until july when the first point release is released
[19:13] <ncp> OerHeks, yes ofc :)
[19:13] <Beldar> ncp, Cool, helps to have all that info, ubuntu tweak has a left to right click.
[19:14] <ncp> Beldar, yes iknow, but nothing happens with ubuntu-tweak either
[19:14] <Beldar> ncp, Ah, not sure than I use the gnome shell, it's on the right there already.
[19:15] <Name141> fisch246: So technically there isn't anything wrong with 12.04 .. yet ?
[19:15] <Name141> Or some screaming "hey upgrade me now" flaw?
[19:15] <trism> fisch246: yeah there were several other people complaining about that bug during testing, all using nvidia proprietary: bug 1303325
[19:16] <ncp> but only need to know if it's possible to do in ubuntu 14.04 (unity) so i don't waste my time with the impossible :)
[19:16] <ncp> has anyone moved close,maximize.. to right corner with unity tweak, or dconf-editor?
[19:17] <ncp> and can confirm it work ofc :)
[19:18] <silverf0x> anyone has upgraded to 12.04.4 to 14.04?
[19:19] <OerHeks> silverf0x, most likely we are, ask your real question please?
[19:19] <Beldar> silverf0x, It is not suggested, lts to lts is actually available in july.
[19:20] <silverf0x> hmm
[19:20] <silverf0x> but it's alreasy available
[19:20] <OerHeks> oh 12.04 -14.04
[19:21] <Name141> Beldar: so right now we'd have to do a new install ?
[19:21] <Beldar> silverf0x, In the terminal yes, ease does not mean you should, nor guarantees the correct path grasshopper.
[19:21] <Name141> Directly to 14.04
[19:21] <fisch246> trism: thanks for the bug reference. I looked for duplicates, but couldn't find any. I'll post that it might be a duplicate to that bug.
[19:21] <inkjetunito> my 14.04 running in virtualbox seems to be using the gallium/llvmpipe graphics driver. how to change it to something better?
[19:21] <Beldar> Name141, You can do what you want, lts to lts has always run this way.
[19:22] <Name141> Beldar: Observing that as a ys.
[19:22] <Name141> yes too
[19:22] <Beldar> Name141, Reading a confirmation bias is faulty.
[19:24] <nf7> How can I tell if I'm on the beta build of 14.04 or the final version? I tried updating but I'm not sure if it worked.
[19:24] <sig357> hello community. Is there a way to install cinnamon on 14.04 (without installing via source)? Thank you.
[19:24] <hydruid> nf7: cat /etc/issue.net
[19:25] <hydruid> nf7: it should say "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS" if it's 14.04 official
[19:25] <nf7> hydruid: Yeah it does say that. Thanks
[19:25] <hydruid> nf7: congratulations, you're good to go!
[19:27] <Beldar> !info cinnamon
[19:28] <Beldar> sig357, cinnamon has been in the repos, not sure why it appears to not be now.
[19:29] <sig357> Beldar: I was thinking the same thing. 2.2 was released recently is my only guess
[19:29] <asido> after updating perl 5.14.2 to 5.18.2 my C application cannot get return values from perl scripts anymore. is it a known break?
[19:29] <sig357> It's not on gwendal-lebihan-dev ppa either
[19:30] <TerranceWarrior> after upgrading all i have in System Settings is 'language support, security, printers, landscape service and software updates, how do i get my other icons back please?
[19:31] <Beldar> sig357, My guess is it will be , the 13.10 release had messed a bit with cinnamon and it took a little while to fix it, so maybe the developers are just being safe here, just a guess.
[19:32] <sig357> Beldar: thanks for the info. I came from 13.04 and it worked great. I am really enjoying 14.04, well done. Just doesn't feel like home until I get my DE of choice installed. Thanks!
[19:33] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello1
[19:33] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I upgraded Ubuntu from 12.04 to 14.04.
[19:33] <Emmanuel_Chanel> And I have some problems.
[19:35] <Jordan_U> !details | Emmanuel_Chanel
[19:36] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I use the PC with Ubuntu as an internet router and server.
[19:36] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Formerly, ppp0 is the default route. But now not.
[19:39] <TerranceWarrior> hello?
[19:40] <the_google> ACK
[19:40] <muhasturk> how can I toch with ricotz ?
[19:40] <Kangarooo> i installed ubuntu with default settings without connection to internet on virtualbox. checked this new option LVM. nothing else. after install didnt pressed restart but only close button to test if that works for live cd after instal.. it works but for a few seconds shwoing balck screen. then i pressed shutdown and it went after few seconds to black with shite letters screen. and stayed.. to witch packege to report?
[19:41] <Kangarooo> white letters on black screen.
[19:41] <d1rkp1tt> Hi all, just upgraded to 14.04 .. running it on a reasonably powerful vm, 4 cores, few gig of RAM, but my login times (not boot) have slowed down  since the upgrade. Anyone else had issues with tihs?
[19:41] <hydruid> d1rkp1tt: I've had a few that took 15 seconds yours similar?
[19:41] <the_google> I'm still on 12.04 watching everyone have problems upgrading to 14.04.
[19:41] <the_google> I think I will just fresh install in a week or two.
[19:41] <Beldar> Kangarooo, That is a woerd test, that has no bug relation.
[19:41] <d1rkp1tt> hydruid, between 15 and 30
[19:42] <Zylinx> im attempting to duel boot Ubuntu 12.04 with windows 8.1  on a Toshiba C50. (UEFI)
[19:42] <Beldar> weird*
[19:42] <hydruid> the_google: I always do a fresh install ;)
[19:42] <inkjetunito> what are the optimal/recommended virtualbox settings for 14.04/x86_64?
[19:42] <hydruid> d1rkp1tt: any errors at login?
[19:42] <Kangarooo> Beldar: the bug is that it didnt shut down. all else i thought is maybe helpfull to know all i did.
[19:42] <Zylinx> ubuntu does not seem to recognize windows 8.1
[19:42] <hydruid> inkjetunito: I would give it at least 2GB of ram and 2 cpu cores
[19:42] <d1rkp1tt> hydruid, havent checked logs yet.. guess thats a good place to start
[19:43] <jhutchins> Zylinx: There are problems with UEFI and the installer.
[19:43] <d1rkp1tt> hydruid, nothing reported to desktop
[19:43] <the_google> Even Microsoft doesn't recognize 8.1, it's 8.1 update or die now.
[19:43] <Thete> What are people using these days to harden SSHD?
[19:43] <hydruid> d1rkp1tt: good idea and give it a week or two, might also try unplugging everything that you can (say if it's a laptop) to see if you can narrow it down
[19:43] <the_google> fail2ban
[19:43] <jhutchins> Zylinx: Are you able to boot Ubuntu?
[19:43] <Thete> the_google: cool, thank you much :)
[19:43] <the_google> disable root and password login.
[19:43] <inkjetunito> hydruid: yes, that part is ok already. the problem is, that it's using the gallium/llvmpipe graphics driver :(
[19:43] <wix> hello can anyone help me with the mobile broadband on 14.04? It doesn't seem to appear in network settings
[19:43] <d1rkp1tt> hydruid, its a VMware VM
[19:43] <volkan> Hey, how can I get the informations about the hdd?
[19:43] <genio> did /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults  get taken out of 14.04?
[19:43] <Jordan_U> Zylinx: Why are you installing Ubuntu 12.04 instead of 14.04?
[19:44] <Ovetum> how can i to change select icon to red?
[19:44] <Zylinx> jhutchins, yes from LiveUSB. its my dad whos actually doing it so hes making the decisions <- Jordan_U
[19:44] <genio> it made automation nice... Do I now have to update conf files manually?
[19:44] <d1rkp1tt> Ive upgraded this system all the way from 12.04 though
[19:44] <Beldar> the_google, Do you have a support issue?
[19:44] <d1rkp1tt> ;)
[19:44] <d1rkp1tt> 2 years without a fresh build
[19:44] <hydruid> d1rkp1tt: in that case wait a week or two for VMware to update their tools
[19:44] <the_google> I'm here to observe and offer help if possible.
[19:45] <the_google> Been on Ubuntu since ancient times.
[19:45] <d1rkp1tt> hydruid, you think drivers?
[19:45] <TerranceWarrior> bah
[19:45] <Beldar> the_google, Than use nicks, and actually support.
[19:45] <Zylinx> jhutchins, the only way my dad got it to work last time with similar laptop was using rEFInd boot manager. but we are wondering if there is a better way ?
[19:45] <Zylinx> we read something about partition order
[19:45] <Zylinx> and stuff
[19:45] <Thete> the_google: Do you use apache?
[19:45] <pdq> hellos all. I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 fresh install on server deployment (OVH datacenter) and am trying to install some packages but have an error, need help please. thanks :) https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e44b87e6743708cbe419
[19:45] <Zylinx> which is the actual cause of Ubuntu not seeing windows
[19:45] <the_google> I use nginx
[19:45] <Thete> damn
[19:45] <Thete> I gotta learn it
[19:45] <Thete> hehe
[19:45] <jhutchins> Zylinx: grub's been able to cope with efi for a while now, but a very knowledgable friend just tried to do the install on a powerbook and it made a mess of the efi partition.
[19:46] <Thete> everyone's usin nginx now
[19:46] <hydruid> d1rkp1tt: 14.04 is a little slow in virtualbox now too.......but I'm sure the next version of VM Tools will be more "fine tuned" for 14.04
[19:46] <jhutchins> Zylinx: You can do BIOS emulation on some EFI systems, but I think that breaks W8.
[19:46] <the_google> Nginx seems simpler and has less moving parts...which I like.
[19:46] <Night-hacks> i installed indicator-applet-complete but i don't see it on the top panel
[19:46] <Night-hacks> what should i do ?
[19:46] <Cheekio> Is the 13.10>14.04 upgrade process recommended? Last time I wanted to upgrade vs reinstall was back in the 200X's
[19:46] <jhutchins> Zylinx: The forums probably have more discussion of work-arounds.
[19:46] <the_google> restart the panel ?
[19:47] <Cheekio> At which point it wasn't recommended
[19:47] <the_google> or logout and log back in.
[19:47] <Zylinx> jhutchins, yes the CMS or whatever compatibility mode will only work if all OS's boot from a MBR
[19:47] <Night-hacks> the_google: how should i run the applet ?
[19:47] <genio> Does 14.04 still use lightdm and if so, where has /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults moved to?
[19:48] <hydruid> Cheekio: every system is different, if you haven't hacked a ton of stuff, shouldn't be an issue to upgrade
[19:48] <Cheekio> Great
[19:48] <Ovetum> how to change color of icon selected
[19:48] <Ovetum> ¿?
[19:48] <Cheekio> It's a month old install
[19:49] <mikeche1en> can a live usb made with dd save documents between reboots?
[19:49] <Cheekio> I've edited some /etc/ files, but for the most part I should be good to go.
[19:49] <Jordan_U> Zylinx: Why is your dad installing Ubuntu 12.04 instead of 14.04?
[19:49] <the_google> @Night-hacks, try to right click on the panel and add it if necessary
[19:49] <the_google> It should be in the list.
[19:49] <hydruid> Cheekio: you're good to go then :P
[19:49] <the_google> [if the install was successful]
[19:50] <Jordan_U> mikeche1en: No, you need to add another casper-rw partition for that, which just dding the image won't get you.
[19:50] <Cheekio> Is there a irc channel for the unity team?
[19:50] <Ovetum>  how to change color of icon selected?
[19:50] <Ovetum> how to change color of icon selected?
[19:51] <d1rkp1tt> hydruid, Just going through logs.. nothing obvious. Got one error in auth.log which is a reported bug
[19:51] <Ovetum> how to change color of icon selected?
[19:51] <genio> crap.  they removed it with no alternative but to edit config files.  That sucks for automation.
[19:51]  * genio breaks things
[19:51] <Beldar> !details > Ovetum
[19:51] <mikeche1en> Jordan_U: ok thanks, ill try to get startup creator working
[19:52] <Zylinx> Jordan_U, because when he read that 14.04 was for tablets he went to have a really big drink
[19:52] <django> anyone know any good forex software for ubuntu
[19:52] <Ovetum> I want to change the color of the icon selected
[19:52] <Ovetum> how to do it?
[19:53] <dysoco> django, I know of jstock but it just lets you keep track of stock prices
[19:53] <fisch246> where are the header files for the kernel?
[19:54] <dysoco> /usr/src/linux-headers-whatever
[19:54] <hydruid> Ovetum: you will have to modify the theme
[19:54] <fisch246> then apparently I'm running a newer kernel than my uname says i am
[19:55] <Ovetum> how to do to modify my theme? hydruid
[19:55]  * fergal32 waves hello
[19:55] <fisch246> my headers are for 3.13, but my uname says 3.11
[19:55] <fisch246> no wonder I'm running into issues :/
[19:56] <fergal32> does anybody know why in ubuntu 14.04 in this sound indicator thinggie programs like vlc, rhythmbox etc are not closeable anymore?
[19:56] <Guest85076> Sorry, but this is the first time I've signed on. Does anyone know how I can add a resolution and make that change permanent?
[19:56] <fergal32> once they are started they stay there
[19:57] <yeats> fergal32: I'm pretty sure that's considered a convenience feature
[19:58] <yeats> Guest85076: by resolution, you mean screen resolution, yes?
[19:58] <jhutchins> fergal32: Some of those programs have a persistent mode.  Most can be closed with Ctrl-Q, or by right-clicking on the minimized icon (assuming they iconize when you try to close them with Alt-F10).
[19:58] <Guest85076> Yes that's right
[19:58] <fisch246> um... so apparently my kernel headers aren't available...
[19:58] <hydruid> Ovetum: have you tried this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/63126/how-do-i-change-the-selected-items-color
[19:58] <d1rkp1tt> hydruid, You might be right about vmware.. Xorg.0.log shows a few errors
[19:58] <joshad> Hello. I made the mistake of installing ubuntu-touch on my tablet, and now my tablet no longer boots (a quick search reveals that it's starting a light VM called LXC, which fails to load Android?!)
[19:58] <fisch246> beginning to regret my upgrade...
[19:58] <jhutchins> fergal32: Check the drop-down menu for how to quit, it should include the shortcut.
[19:58] <Ovetum> how I want to change the color of the icon selected?
[19:58] <hydruid> d1rkp1tt: ;)
[19:58] <yeats> Guest85076: what video card?
[19:58] <joshad> I am unfamiliar with upstart, so how do I disable that LXC thing?
[19:58] <Guest85076> AMD HD 7770
[19:59] <fisch246> alright so how to upgrade my kernel to the one it SHOULD be at
[19:59] <Guest85076> I tried the proprietary drivers but they cap at 1600x1200
[19:59] <yeats> Guest85076: have you installed the driver for it?
[19:59] <yeats> oh
[19:59] <Guest85076> I've had 1920x1080 before
[19:59] <Guest85076> I'm sort of hoping for it again.
[19:59] <yeats> Guest85076: "before" on ubuntu?
[20:00] <Guest85076> On Windows 7
[20:00] <Beldar> joshad, Touch has a channel, is this an issue with it?
[20:00] <joshad> In particular, how do I find out what services are there in upstart? In Debian, I list /etc/init.d, but in Ubuntu I am lost. How do I get the names of the services I can disable?
[20:00] <genio> How do I now disallow guest login and require username AND password for user login?
[20:00] <fergal32> yeats: hm damn
[20:00] <genio> Everything I read online talks about editing config files that do not exist
[20:00] <TerranceWarrior> any idea on how to get *all* my system settings icons package, like a package install or something?
[20:01] <TerranceWarrior> s/package/back
[20:01] <joshad> Beldar: Well, yes and no, I intended to test it, not use it. Now I want to disable it (so I don't have to uninstall it completely before testing)
[20:01] <Beldar> joshad, However you want to word it, there is no touch support here.
[20:01] <fergal32> jhutchins: i'm not talking about closing programms it's about programs for watching vlc they just minimize and stay there
[20:02]  * genio wonders if there's a lightDM channel instead
[20:02] <yeats> Guest85076: I think the commenter on this post is probably correct: http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1929jz/any_one_using_a_amd_radeon_hd_7770/c8kcue4
[20:02] <fisch246> Alright so apparently I'm still running the Ubuntu 13.10 kernel on 14.04 -__-
[20:02] <gbear14275> anyone played with 14.04 and xen 4.4 yet?
[20:02] <joshad> Beldar: So if my system is broken after apt-get install from official challens, I don't get support here?
[20:02] <joshad> s/challens/channels/
[20:02] <fergal32> in the last versions you could just close them and they were closed in volume.sound-indicator
[20:02] <d1rkp1tt> gbear14275, yes
[20:02] <hydruid> joshad: we can help you, but we're volunteers not employees ;)
[20:02] <hydruid> joshad: what is wrong?
[20:03] <Beldar> joshad, This is ubuntu support, touch has it's own channel, it is not an issue of the repo access.
[20:03] <joshad> Beldar: Well, it's an issue with upstart :)
[20:03] <Guest85076> So is there nothing I can do?
[20:03] <Beldar> joshad, In touch right?
[20:03] <dioioib> Guest85076: I had a dual head setup using ATI 6850's you have to install fglrx and xrandr and do a lot of xorg editing.
[20:03] <joshad> Beldar: No, in Ubuntu
[20:03] <fisch246> alright so dist-upgrade apparently can't figure out that I'm running the wrong kernel...
[20:04] <joshad> Beldar: I don't think `aptitude install ubuntu-touch' replaces upstart :)
[20:04] <hydruid> fisch246: what kernel? and is / really full
[20:04] <Guest85076> I tried that I'm afraid. I got 1920x1080 with the standard driver, but it wouldn't save even after editing Xorg.conf
[20:04] <TerranceWarrior> did they REMOVE system settings icons??  this is after an upgrade to Trusty.
[20:04] <fisch246> hydruid: I'm running 3.11, instead of 3.13
[20:04] <hydruid> joshad: what is your issue? I don't mind helping but it seems you are more interested in debating
[20:04] <genio> Can anyone tell me how to change LightDM to _not_ allow guest login and to require both username and password to be typed in?  All of the documentation I see is for older versions that no longer seem relevant
[20:04] <Beldar> joshad, whatever you are in your own world.
[20:04] <Guest85076> And fglrx won't allow me to add the mode to my options
[20:04] <yeats> fisch246: check that /boot is not full too (if you're using LVM, it will be on like a 90MB partition by default)
[20:04] <Ovetum> thanks <hydruid>
[20:04] <dioioib> Guest85076: here is an example of my xorg http://pastebin.com/e9h7V7YB
[20:05] <hydruid> Ovetum: most welcome
[20:05] <hydruid> TerranceWarrior: I have all mine...how many do you have
[20:05] <dioioib> oh that is the broken one. after I installed nvidia one sec
[20:05] <fisch246> yeats: They're on the same partition, and I have plenty of space
[20:05] <fisch246> My headers updated, but my kernel did not
[20:05] <joshad> hydruid: Well, I wish to disable a service. I don't know how's it called (guesses are `lxc' or `lxc-android'), and I wish to know the directory where I can look for upstart services
[20:06] <Guest85076> But I can't change the mode anyway with the proprietary driver
[20:06] <TerranceWarrior> hydruid: 5
[20:06] <hydruid> joshad: disable a service on Ubuntu?
[20:06] <hydruid> TerranceWarrior: that's not good lol
[20:06] <joshad> hydruid: Yes
[20:06] <yeats> fisch246: what does 'dpkg -l | grep linux-image' show?
[20:06] <Guest85076> And with the X.org driver even Assault Cube dips below 30fps
[20:07] <TerranceWarrior> hydruid: i know.
[20:07] <dioioib> yeah that sucks.  Now I am having more of an issue after installing the nvidia you can't use them together.
[20:07] <TerranceWarrior> hydruid: what package is it?
[20:07] <dioioib> yeah 30fps isn't much for a 7770
[20:07] <the_google> looks like upstart jobs reside in /etc/init
[20:07] <hydruid> joshad: do a search through /etc/rcX.d/ where X can be from 0-6
[20:07] <Jordan_U> Zylinx: 14.04 is no less for Desktops than 12.04, and likely has better UEFI support (along with newer software, and support for a longer period from now).
[20:07] <hydruid> joshad: you could also just move the /etc/init.d/ script to somewhere else
[20:07] <the_google> look in there if possible for something that looks like LXC and rename the script to something else.
[20:08] <hydruid> joshad: of course it's hard to say, since every package handles that differently, but those are the basic ways to do it
[20:08] <Guest85076> Still thanks for sending it dioioib
[20:08] <fisch246> yeats: http://pastebin.com/9nL5YYU1
[20:08] <hydruid> TerranceWarrior: how about I pastebin my dpkg --list and you do the same and then you can do a diff
[20:08] <dioioib> Guest85076: just ingnor the nvidia stuff it should say xrandr and there was a line in there for xinearama or something if I was at home I would review my install notes for you.
[20:09] <yeats> fisch246: rc  linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic - so it was installed, but removed
[20:09] <TerranceWarrior> hydruid: no thanks. i got it.
[20:09] <hydruid> TerranceWarrior: what package was it?
[20:09] <hydruid> lol okay
[20:09] <yeats> fisch246: you could just try 'sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic' and call the issue done
[20:10] <django> where can i find open java runtime 32 bit
[20:10] <Guest85076> Thanks :). Is there anyway get the proprietary driver to increase the maximum resolution?
[20:10] <fisch246> yeats: running it now
[20:10] <d1rkp1tt> hydruid, Just reinstalled vmware tools in case it was really... old. rebooted. 35 seconds from login screen to have sidebar loaded.
[20:11] <fisch246> yeats:  uname -r still says 3.11
[20:11] <joshad> hydruid: OK, thanks very much, so it's in the usual place. (It seems that something else is starting it though, I guess I'll have to look in the package itself)
[20:11] <hydruid> d1rkp1tt: and how long ago were the VMware tools updated by VMware?
[20:11] <hydruid> joshad: what package is it
[20:11] <fisch246> yeats: oh right... I assume I have to restart
[20:11] <yeats> fisch246: right
[20:11] <dioioib> Guest85076: not to sure. the driver support is really lagy. I think I ended up using version 9.4 or something old just to get it to work.
[20:11] <fisch246> mmk brb
[20:12] <gbear14275> d1rkp1tt, I was reading up on xen4.4 and thought I read that the toolchain to use was not the one in the ubuntu xen documentation, but I lost the page and am new to Xen.   Any advice on guides to use or reference over others?
[20:12] <hydruid> joshad: you could try one of the "startup managers" to see if it finds it
[20:12] <joshad> hydruid: lxc http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/amd64/lxc/filelist
[20:12] <Programmer_> 14.04 upgrade done :)))))
[20:13] <d1rkp1tt> hydruid, yeah I still need to wait for the update... but was just checking anyway. I guess 35 secs is not the end of the world..
[20:13] <hydruid> joshad: so LXC is running a container at boot?
[20:13] <hydruid> d1rkp1tt: it's not too bad, what resolution?
[20:13] <d1rkp1tt> hydruid, 1680x1050
[20:14] <Guest85076> dioioib: Ok. Thanks. I did try and edit it in Catalyst Control Centre with root privaleges, something I remembered having to do with Windows, but it won't even let me click on the max resolution.
[20:14] <hydruid> d1rkp1tt: yea lol.....bump it down to 1024*768 and reboot, see if it logs in faster
[20:15] <joshad> hydruid: I would guess so, I decided to just remove it. I might have to read on these containers :)
[20:16] <hydruid> joshad: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/lxc.html
[20:17] <hydruid> joshad: look for "LXC startup"
[20:18] <joshad> hydruid: Oh, thanks very much
[20:19] <zryan> E: Type 'n' is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/langdalepl-gvfs-mtp-lucid.list
[20:19] <zryan> this my error
[20:19] <zryan> E: Type 'n' is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/langdalepl-gvfs-mtp-lucid.list
[20:19] <yeats> zryan: can you pastebin the contents of that file?
[20:21] <zryan> (sudu apt-get update) apear this error
[20:21] <zryan> E: Type 'n' is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/langdalepl-gvfs-mtp-lucid.list
[20:22] <pdq> hello I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 fresh install and am trying to install python-dev but have an error, need help please. thanks :) https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c156938754da16860716 does this package install for anyone else?
[20:22] <zryan> help me plzzz
[20:22] <zryan> E: Type 'n' is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/langdalepl-gvfs-mtp-lucid.list
[20:22] <yeats> zryan: do 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit' then 'pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/langdalepl-gvfs-mtp-lucid.list' and share the resulting URL here
[20:23] <zryan> notg install this (pastebinit)
[20:23] <yeats> pdq: have you tried installing those other packages directly?
[20:24] <pdq> yep same/similar errors
[20:24] <zryan> yeats not install (pastebinit) in terminal
[20:24] <ethan_> Hello
[20:24] <yeats> zryan: ok - if you want someone to help you, you'll need to pastebin what's in that file
[20:25] <yeats> pdq: any PPAs or other third-party repos installed?
[20:25] <pdq> yeats: checking, is a ovh datacenter 14.04 image deployment
[20:26] <penth> if there's a problem in apt then he's not going to install the package via apt. zryan: open a browser to pastebin.com and paste the file there.
[20:26] <yeats> pdq: you've done 'sudo apt-get update' right?
[20:26] <pdq> yeats: yeppers is all up to date and has rebooted etc and updated since
[20:26] <yeats> pdq: ok
[20:27] <ethan_> I was wondering if anyone can help me. I am new to ubuntu. I just recently switched from windows 7. I was wondering how do you disable the guest account on 14.04
[20:27] <yeats> pdq: can you pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy python-dev'?
[20:28] <yeats> ethan_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/62564/how-do-i-disable-the-guest-session should help