[00:12] <Quintasan> Hmm I'm off
[01:33] <nhandler> Did you all see apachelogger's blog post?
[01:33] <vorian> yes :(
[01:33] <astromme> yep =/
[01:34] <nhandler> Isn't apachelogger the one who gets the new tarballs from KDE for us?
[01:34] <vorian> nhandler: there are a few people who can do that
[01:35] <ScottK> Actually Riddell normally gets them.
[01:36] <nhandler> vorian: Ok, just making sure. Do we have a way to publish them to kollide?
[01:36] <nhandler> Or do we need to move all of that stuff to a new location?
[01:36] <vorian> nhandler: we can re-arrange that
[01:39] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: yo
[01:40] <JontheEchidna> rgreening: yo
[01:40] <rgreening> Qt 4.5.0 seems to work fine now
[01:40] <JontheEchidna> cool
[01:40] <rgreening> did the plugin patch work after\
[01:41] <JontheEchidna> still working on it
[01:41] <rgreening> cool
[01:41] <JontheEchidna> it seems that some stuff using non-q3 stuff still needed some porting work
[01:41] <JontheEchidna> such as QDir enums, etc
[01:41] <rgreening> right on
[01:42] <JontheEchidna> and Q3Wizard -> QDialogAssistant is being a bitch
[01:42] <rgreening> yep
[01:42] <rgreening> I worked on it and got no where
[01:42] <JontheEchidna> I've got the compile failures down to those in QDialogAssistant and a single error in QProcess
[01:43] <rgreening> cool
[01:46] <rgreening> I'll prob open a bug to include the current patch. If you get that one done we can do another bug for it.
[01:46] <rgreening> And I'll submit one for Qt 4.5.0
[01:46] <rgreening> JontheEchidna, ScottK ^
[02:25] <lex79> JontheEchidna: do you have nvidia?
[02:25] <JontheEchidna> lex79: an older nvidia. I use the nvidia-glx-96 drivers
[02:26] <lex79> ah
[02:26] <lex79> kde freeze in my system now...
[02:26] <lex79> with new xorg
[02:26] <lex79> :(
[02:26] <lex79> with vesa works
[02:26]  * JontheEchidna hasn't rebooted since the last xorg update
[02:27] <JontheEchidna> omfg, it compiled
[02:27] <lex79> JontheEchidna: ahahah
[02:27] <lex79> so..no reboot
[02:27] <JontheEchidna> ok, I'll keep that in mind >.>
[02:27] <lex79> yes
[02:28] <JontheEchidna> that will make it somewhat difficult to test this patch for kde4libs that I just got to compile
[02:28] <JontheEchidna> maybe I won't ahve to restart X for the khtml libs to go out of memory
[02:29] <lex79> I don't know...
[02:30] <lex79> I put two packages in revu but there aren't
[02:30] <lex79> uhm
[02:46] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Should be a test of your ultimate ninja fighting skillz
[02:46] <ScottK> You might make sure you have a copy of the n-1 X .debs before you restart.
[02:47] <lex79> ScottK :D
[02:51]  * JontheEchidna restarts quassel to test new snapshot
[02:53] <JontheEchidna> nice
[03:05] <JontheEchidna> meh, kde4libs is only at 72%
[03:06]  * JontheEchidna might have to postpone testing until tomorrow
[03:06] <vorian> JontheEchidna: Soon, very soon I will have my beastly machince ready for killer builds
[03:07] <JontheEchidna> holy tower of knotify
[03:07] <vorian> I built a new computer today: AMD quad-core, 8 gigs memory, and other fun extras
[03:07] <JontheEchidna> quassell just sent me 4 notifications for your hihigghlt
[03:07] <JontheEchidna> *highlight
[03:07] <vorian> ohmy!
[03:07] <vorian> hilight in irssi speek
[03:07] <JontheEchidna> ~ohmy
[03:08] <JontheEchidna> ~order brain
[03:08]  * kubotu shouts: OMG!!!!! RED ALERT! We lost a brain. Get me a medic, NOW!
[03:08] <vorian> :)
[03:08] <nhandler> vorian: I would love to have that computer
[03:08] <nhandler> How much did it cost?
[03:09] <vorian> in the end, about $600
[03:09] <vorian> <3 new egg
[03:09] <JontheEchidna> damn
[03:10] <vorian> I only purchased the motherboard, power-supply, cpu, memory, and case - everything else I had
[03:10] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: How many notifications this time?
[03:10] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: 4
[03:11] <ScottK> Interesting.
[03:11] <JontheEchidna> Quite.
[03:11] <ScottK> In 4.1, I only get one.
[03:19] <ScottK> Sput: ^^^
[03:20]  * claydoh <3 newegg too, just put together a dual core amd, 4gb ram and cheep matx board w/onboard video
[03:20]  * claydoh recycled the rest of old system
[03:22] <JontheEchidna> mine's so old about all I could recycle would be outside the case
[03:22] <ScottK> How old?
[03:22] <JontheEchidna> except perhaps CD/DVD drives
[03:22] <JontheEchidna> 5 years old
[03:22] <claydoh> my case is from 2001
[03:23] <claydoh> drives are 2-5 years old, dvd burner, 1
[03:23] <JontheEchidna> my dad upgraded a 286 to a 486 until all of the original that was left was the case
[03:23] <ScottK> 5 years is the general design life of most consumer grade electronic components.
[03:23] <claydoh> ps is about 1 year
[03:23] <ScottK> I wouldn't use hard drives over 5 years unless you don't care about the data.
[03:24] <JontheEchidna> he still has the 286 mobo/cpu in a box somewhere
[03:24] <JontheEchidna> I added a new hard drive about a year and a half back
[03:24] <JontheEchidna> windoze is on the old, small drive that came with the computer
[03:24]  * ScottK is still using a dual PIII 450 box he built in 1999 as a file server (new hard drives).
[03:25] <claydoh> actually one drive is only 1 year old, and I do have a 10 y/o 4gb hd that still runs
[03:25] <claydoh> came out of an HP 233 mmx desktop
[03:25] <JontheEchidna> The 486 dualboots windows 3.1 and redhat 6 on a 380 MB drive. I think it'd still work if you turned it on today
[03:26] <claydoh> still have the rest of that system in a box somewhere
[03:26] <JontheEchidna> yeah, most of our family's previous boxes are in some state of disrepair/boxed up
[03:26] <claydoh> the 233 was my first computer ever
[03:26]  * ScottK has a circa 1991 Mac LC III that last time he tried it booted.
[03:26] <ScottK> Heh.
[03:27] <claydoh> June of 1998 I remember that summer well
[03:27] <ScottK> My first computer ever was a Radio Shack TRS-80 Model I.
[03:27] <claydoh> dialup wooo
[03:27] <ScottK> 4k ram.
[03:27]  * claydoh is old, and somehow missed the computer revolution
[03:27] <ScottK> How old?
[03:28]  * claydoh did type soemthing on a trs80 in school
[03:28] <claydoh> 42
[03:28] <ScottK> Bah.  I'm about 10% older.
[03:28] <claydoh> not really pld, just missed out on the tech
[03:28] <claydoh> old rather
[03:28] <vorian> we had a mac, until something called an "IBM Compatable Computer" came along
[03:28] <ScottK> Actually PC cam before Mac.
[03:28] <ScottK> cam/came
[03:29] <ScottK> Apple ][ 1977, IBM PC 1981, Mac 1985
[03:29] <JontheEchidna> The first "computer" I ever owned was a Gameboy Advance. 33 MHZ ARM7 with a 4/8 MHz Z80 co-processor and 320kb RAM
[03:30]  * ScottK has done Z80 assembler.
[03:30] <claydoh> hp pavillion  for me, 1998, 128mb ram, 4gb drive, 2(?)mb video
[03:31] <claydoh> as I said, I missed out on a lot of tech
[03:31]  * claydoh has never even used a mac
[03:31] <ScottK> After the TRS-80 I had an Apple ][ and then the Mac.
[03:32] <claydoh> tho we did have an apple 2e or something in machine shop for cnc training
[03:32] <ScottK> My first 'PC' was a P133 laptop that I got in 1995 after Office 95 came out with incompatible file formats and there was no Office for Mac update in sight.
[03:33] <claydoh> my wife, techno-luddite she is, has actually played with some unix variant when she ran a hardware store
[03:33] <ScottK> The IIe was the last Apple ][.  I had a cousin who owned serial number 32.
[03:33] <claydoh> all dumb terminals and tty's and such
[03:35] <ScottK> He pitched it when the motherboard burned up.
[03:35] <ScottK> It'd have been worth something I think, even just the case.
[03:36] <JontheEchidna> I bought a IIe at a yard sale a year or so back
[03:38] <claydoh> I still have a 233 thinkpad that runs vector linux lite, I use it in the kitchen for looking up recipes
[03:39] <claydoh> lol that thing from what I could find cost over 3k back in 1998
[03:41] <ScottK> About right.
[03:42] <ScottK> A company I worked at we had some 286 or 386 boxes that ran about 6K when new in 93/94 ish.
[03:42] <JontheEchidna> After the 486 we got a 233 MHZ Pentium 2. I got a VooDoo 2 graphics card with 8 MB VRAM for Christmas
[03:42] <ScottK> 4 years later they were boat anchors, but we were still depreciating them so we couldn't throw them away.
[03:45] <JontheEchidna> I believe Weird Al's "All about the Pentiums" sums up that era of computing pretty well
[04:01]  * JontheEchidna ->bed(Qt:FluffyPillow);
[04:01]  * JontheEchidna ->bed(Qt::FluffyPillow);
[04:08] <JontheEchidna> rgreening: oh
[04:08] <JontheEchidna> I just emailed you
[04:08] <JontheEchidna> ^_^
[04:08] <rgreening> hey
[04:09] <JontheEchidna> ...and I forgot to attach everything while I was at it
[04:10] <rgreening> yup
[04:10] <rgreening> I replied
[04:10] <rgreening> haha
[04:10] <rgreening> send it to me and Ill build it
[04:10] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: kmail just gave me 4 notifications
[04:10] <rgreening> I'll be up late
[04:11] <ScottK> Ah hah.
[04:11] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Are you trying some fancy new patch?
[04:11] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: nothing past the systray corruption patches
[04:11] <JontheEchidna> I suppose I should restart plasma
[04:12] <rgreening> ScottK: Qt 4.5.0 rc1 is looking mostly good. I need to get kdebindings to build with it now. The rest of kde builds fine with Qt4.5.0
[04:12] <ScottK> rgreening: I can't remember, did you build python-qt4?
[04:13] <ScottK> Because PyQt4 and kdebindings hell are closely related on armel.
[04:13] <JontheEchidna> could somebody ping me?
[04:13] <rgreening> I'll rebuild pyqt4 and pykde and see what happens
[04:13] <rgreening> ping JontheEchidna
[04:14] <rgreening> :)
[04:14] <JontheEchidna> \o/
[04:14] <JontheEchidna> 1 notification this time, not 4
[04:14] <rgreening> lol
[04:14] <rgreening> brb
[04:15]  * ScottK notes the return of UTU and discovers he's already done as many Jaunty uploads as he did the entire Intrpepid cycle.
[04:16] <JontheEchidna> oh, it's back?
[04:16] <ScottK> Yep.  See planet.
[04:16] <JontheEchidna> #59 myself, not bad
[04:17] <JontheEchidna> er, #21
[04:17] <JontheEchidna> 59 uploads :P
[04:17] <ScottK> Yeah, well last cycle I never once did anything like toss 16 plasmoids at the archive at once and see what stuck.
[04:18] <ScottK> Which is not the recommended approach, but seemed to work out OK.
[04:19]  * JontheEchidna notices he was supposed to run his bed() function 15 minutes ago
[04:19] <ScottK> Sleep is for the weak.
[04:19] <JontheEchidna> ;-)
[04:19]  * JontheEchidna out
[04:21] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: did you send the patch
[04:23] <rgreening> apachelogger is buggering off... oh no's
[04:24] <rgreening> I'm #55
[04:24] <vorian> :o
[04:24] <vorian> 76
[04:24] <vorian> it didn't feel like that many
[04:24] <vorian> I thought maybe 40 or 50
[04:25] <rgreening> I had 15 only apparantly...
[04:25] <rgreening> feels like I did more
[04:26] <rgreening> hrmph.. I did more in Intrepid apparantly.. seems wrong
[04:26] <ScottK> It only counts the ones where you are listed as changed-by.
[04:26] <vorian> we still have 2 months to go
[04:26] <rgreening> true
[04:27] <vorian> yet less than 2 weeks til feature freeze!
[04:27] <vorian> we need to go on a plasma hunt
[04:27] <vorian> plasmoids, even
[04:27] <ScottK> Since we're doing the bzr stuff we're seeing more uploads that combine changes too.
[04:28] <rgreening> ScottK: that is true.
[04:30] <rgreening> ScottK: kdelib4c2a is still in kubuntu-desktop
[04:30] <ScottK> k3b
[04:30] <ScottK> Also Knm is still there for a bit.
[04:30] <rgreening> can we get rid of yet? Tonio_ was packaging
[04:30] <rgreening> plasmoid works fine now (at least for my testing)
[04:31] <ScottK> rgreening: I wonder how well it would work with 4.1?
[04:31] <rgreening> hmm... dunno. good q for Tonio_
[04:31]  * ScottK considers a backport.
[04:31] <ScottK> Great way to get lots of testing.
[04:31] <rgreening> ScottK: go for it.
[04:32]  * ScottK would like to hear from Tonio first.
[04:32] <rgreening> I feel like packaging k3b myself
[04:32]  * ScottK already spent too much of tonight unscrewing a Gnomish backport he approved.
[04:32] <rgreening> lol
[04:33]  * ScottK is not kidding.
[04:34]  * ScottK visited svn.gnome.org for the first time ever to verify the change proposed by some unknown person really was a backport of an upstream patch.
[04:34] <rgreening> Im going to look for k3b and attempt to package
[04:34] <rgreening> heh
[04:56] <rgreening> ScottK: do you think rebuilding pyqt4 will help kdebindings build?
[04:57] <ScottK> Might.
[04:57] <ScottK> Might make it worse too.
[04:57] <rgreening> lol
[06:14] <rgreening> ScottK: ping
[06:14] <ScottK> Yes?
[06:14] <rgreening> ScottK: for Qt 4.5.0, what do you want tested again? Eric, amarok,...
[06:15] <ScottK> Eric on top of a rebuild pyqt4 is what i suggested
[06:15] <rgreening> ok, Im building pyqt4 now
[06:15] <rgreening> will add eroc after
[06:15] <ScottK> OK
[06:15] <rgreening> eric even,
[06:15] <rgreening> k
[06:15] <ScottK> I'm not sure what else.
[06:16] <rgreening> if you think of anything, let me know.
[06:16] <ScottK> This seems a bit scary to me to be switching now.   I will.
[06:17] <rgreening> ScottK: if you can test Qt4.5.0 in Jaunty, it would help assuage your fears (potentially)
[06:17] <ScottK> I don't have a box I can dedicate to Jaunty right now.
[06:17] <rgreening> fabo: ping
[06:17] <rgreening> fabo is running it too I believe.
[06:19] <ScottK> OK.  Just uploaded the current clamav to hardy-backports.  Now I'm off to bed.
[06:19] <rgreening> nite
[06:20] <ScottK> Good night
[08:05] <fabo> ScottK: yes, I'm running with Qt 4.5.0 rc1.
[08:29] <rgreening> fabo: hey. I am about ready to finalize my build. We should compare merge changes. Where was yours again? I lost my logs
[08:31] <rgreening> fabo: have you tried re-building KDE4.2 against Qt4.5.0? Only issue I have left is kdebindings.
[08:32] <fabo> rgreening: on alioth pkg-kde/branches/qt4-x11
[08:33] <fabo> I'm triaging qt-copy changes right now since they have updated qt-copy yesterday
[08:34] <fabo> otherwise, i didn't tried to rebuild KDE 4.2 against it
[08:35] <fabo> you can find it here too => http://alioth.debian.org/~fabo/qt4-x11_4.5.0~rc1-1/
[08:35] <rgreening> patches I used: 0195 0209 0216 0225 0226 0234 0245 0255
[08:35] <rgreening> fabo: the rest are applied or obsolete
[08:39] <rgreening> fabo: mostly problem free here runing it. I have performed a rebuild of KDE, python-qt4, python-sip4, amarok, etc on the new qt. everythnig is fine except getting bindings to build. I have to investigate some more.
[08:41] <fabo> ok
[08:42] <rgreening> fabo, do you also take care of kde packages in debian?
[08:43] <fabo> rgreening: yes, i'm working on them too. btw i didn't played with bindings myself
[08:44] <rgreening> fabo: cool.
[08:57] <fabo> rgreening: 0226 removed. it seems already in Qt 4.5
[08:58] <rgreening> 0226.. are you sure?
[08:59] <fabo> SVN commit 921924 by mueller
[08:59] <rgreening> cool
[09:02] <rgreening> nap time
[09:02] <rgreening> nite fabo
[09:03] <fabo> good night
[09:14] <Mamarok> JontheEchidna: you around
[09:14] <Mamarok> ?
[09:16] <Mamarok> I have a problem with a package build I try to make
[09:16] <Mamarok> I f someone is around who could help me, ping me please :)
[09:29] <jussi01> Mamarok: there are probably some that might be able to help, but best if you just say the issue so we can see ;)
[10:01] <Mamarok> jussi01: well, read the pastebin :)
[10:02]  * jussi01 cant see any pastebin link...
[10:03] <Mamarok> oops, thougt I had pasted it, sry
[10:03] <Mamarok> http://pastebin.com/d320bf646
[10:04] <Mamarok> i absolutely need that package
[10:05] <Quintasan> Mamarok: no such package in this PPA
[10:05] <Quintasan> oh sry
[10:05] <Mamarok> hm, so I guess it's in experimental
[10:05] <Quintasan> wget http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/a/amarok-mysql-dfsg-5.1/amarok-libmysqlclient-dev_5.1.26rc-0ubuntu1~ppa1_i386.deb
[10:06] <Mamarok> but that's the link apachelogger gave me
[10:06] <Quintasan> hmm bit too long
[10:06] <Mamarok> let's hope nobody removed it
[10:06] <Quintasan> Mamarok: try mine :P
[10:07] <Mamarok> Quintasan: that did the trick, thanks :)
[10:08] <Quintasan> Mamarok: no problem :D
[10:14] <Quintasan> lol I can't build anything but hello using debuild :D
[11:02] <Quintasan> omg, pbuilder sure downloads lots of packages when compiling KDE apps
[11:26] <Quintasan> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes.
[11:26] <Quintasan> Installing libx11-dev didnt help
[12:17] <Quintasan> #!/bin/sh
[12:17] <Quintasan> # invoke shell if build fails.
[12:17] <Quintasan> apt-get install -y --force-yes vim less bash
[12:17] <Quintasan> cd /tmp/buildd/*/debian/..
[12:17] <Quintasan> oh my god, sorry :/
[12:33] <JontheEchidna> Mamarok: ping
[12:35] <JontheEchidna> rgreening: yes, I sent you the files in an email with the same name as the last one
[12:37] <Mamarok> JontheEchidna: hi, problem solved :)
[12:38] <JontheEchidna> Great :)
[12:52] <ulo_> hey there. did you receive bugreports about segfaults in ksmserver and nepomukservices since the last kdebase updates?
[12:54] <ulo_> kwin+x11 run at 100% cpu after loggin into kde since today - dmesg shows: http://pastebin.com/m20c57a7b
[12:55] <ulo_> no errors in X11.0.log
[13:00] <ulo_> last action before poweroff was a aptitude full-upgrade which installed kdebase-workspace* 4.2.0-0ubuntu4 and xserver-common/xserver-xorg-core to <IP_ADDRESS>2-0ubuntu3
[13:18] <JontheEchidna> rgreening: It works, sorta
[13:18] <JontheEchidna> rgreening: the detection capabilities are the same as the other patch, unfortunately :(
[13:18] <JontheEchidna> also I accidentally enabled the next button for the assistant dialog, lol
[13:20] <JontheEchidna> http://imagebin.ca/view/f_PViN.html
[13:20] <JontheEchidna> rgreening: If we can get this working properly we should. It has a license acceptance dialog and all that good stuff
[13:29] <JontheEchidna> \o apachelogger
[13:29] <apachelogger> o/ JontheEchidna
[13:29] <JontheEchidna> Check what rgreening and I have been working on: http://imagebin.ca/view/f_PViN.html
[13:29] <apachelogger> hm
[13:29] <JontheEchidna> It's a port of the KDE3 flash installation wizard
[13:30] <apachelogger> Lure: the ruby magic is self-maintaining :P
[13:30] <JontheEchidna> it finally compiled without Qt/KDE3 support
[13:30] <Lure> apachelogger: sure, now it will be even proven, NOT ;-)
[13:31] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: the dialog is flawed
[13:31] <apachelogger> KDE plugin?
[13:31] <apachelogger> what plugin? why plugin? where plugin? huh plugin?
[13:31] <JontheEchidna> that and there's no next button :P
[13:31] <JontheEchidna> it still has... issues
[13:32] <JontheEchidna> but it compiles!
[13:32] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: it really needs provide some more information
[13:32] <apachelogger> but otherwise cool
[13:32] <JontheEchidna> except due to a kde4libs bug flash isn't detected on youtube :(
[13:32] <apachelogger> Lure: well, since 4.2.0 was an ultimate testrun the current revision ought to work mostly
[13:32] <JontheEchidna> since they do a check to see if you have flash
[13:33] <JontheEchidna> and don't try to embed things unconditionally
[13:33] <apachelogger> ScottK: btw, I recommend you get that ubuntuwire access .... or another server to use as remote location for the tarballs
[13:34] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: well, I suppose that somehow works with firefox
[13:34] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: oh ... and once you are happy with the patch -> push it upstream with all the noise you can make
[13:34] <apachelogger> maintaing that as a patch is pure insanity
[13:35] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: currently it does require a setting in k-d-s for the plugin location for it to download
[13:35] <apachelogger> plugin location?
[13:36]  * apachelogger doesn't really remember how the patch works :P
[13:36] <apachelogger> but
[13:36] <JontheEchidna> the location on the internets for the flash plugin
[13:36] <apachelogger> how would that work with $package?
[13:36] <JontheEchidna> we also have a much simpler patch that just prompts the user to install it with install-package
[13:36] <apachelogger> well
[13:37] <apachelogger> from my point of view $distro should provide desktop files to set this kind of stuff
[13:37] <apachelogger> one to define which application to use for installation
[13:37] <apachelogger> and loads of them to define package names for the various plugin times
[13:38] <apachelogger> s/times/types
[14:21] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: oh, and if there is no distro defined desktop files the assitant probably should only redirect the user to $download page of $plugin
[14:21] <apachelogger> sine there is no common pattern for taring nsplugins
[14:30] <jussi01> apachelogger: thats bollocks! you cant take a new job with out consulting us first!!
[14:31]  * jussi01 goes to call apachelogger's boss...
[14:31] <apachelogger> it's not like I had much choice on that :P
[14:31] <jussi01> hehe
[15:23] <Lure> anybody understand what is benefit of lpia architecture for atom pcu?
[15:23] <Lure> cpu
[15:24] <Lure> I have dual-core atom as server and am not sure if running lpia makes sense (currently on amd64)
[15:39]  * smarter didn't know atom was 64bits
[15:44] <Lure> smarter: my atom 330 is dual-core, hyper-threaded 64-bit "beast" ;-)
[15:44] <smarter> HT even? :O
[15:45] <ScottK> lpia is 32 bit to start with.
[15:45] <Lure> ScottK: ok, but what is the benfit?
[15:46]  * Lure does not need 64-bit as I have only 2 GB ram
[15:46]  * Lure did not find any reasoning for lpia on wiki...
[15:46] <ScottK> I understand it's optimized for that arch, but no idea what that actually means.
[15:47] <smarter> it's compiled with the cpu flags available on the atoms
[15:47] <smarter> probably sse2 and stuff
[15:48] <smarter> normally, 32bits packages are compiled with only the minimum cpu feature, to be compatible with 486 and stuff that only exists in museum now
[15:49] <smarter> I don't know if it has much advantage versus 64bits, since more cpu flags are standardised and used in compilation for 64bits, and it's supposed to be faster(but eat more ram)
[15:54]  * apachelogger is suprised by how well the mozilla binary tarball does not work at all
[15:54] <apachelogger> maybe the tar is b0rked
[15:56] <apachelogger> aha ... so much for that mirror -.-
[17:29] <ScottK> apachelogger: Would you mind looking at our quassel package and seeing if you can convince it to build with debug actually on?  I seem to be a total failure in that department.
[17:29] <ScottK> Or anyone else for that matter.
[17:33] <apachelogger> ScottK: -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=debugfull
[17:34] <ScottK> The problem appears to be it's stripped
[17:34] <ScottK> /usr/bin/quasselclient: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[17:34] <ScottK> But I set nostrip in the package.
[17:35] <ScottK> debugfull is already set.
[17:41] <apachelogger> ScottK: why not strip it to -dbg?
[17:41] <ScottK> That was going to be my next step.
[17:42] <ScottK> If someone wanted to put that together, I'd be glad to sponsor it (if you need sponsoring)
[17:42] <apachelogger> ScottK: just add a -dbg package
[17:42] <apachelogger> cdbs will take care of everything else
[17:42] <ScottK> ENOTENOUGHTIME today
[17:42] <apachelogger> just saying :P
[17:56] <blizzz> claydoh: ping
[17:58] <claydoh> blizzz: pong!
[17:59] <blizzz> claydoh: because of the quassel-doc translation
[17:59] <claydoh> blizzz: I just now got to relying to y yoour email
[18:00] <blizzz> yeah, i read it 2 min ago
[18:00] <blizzz> in fact i don't know what neversfelde and you have agreed, however you can see it here: http://wiki.kubuntu-de.org/Benutzer:Neversfelde/quassel
[18:01] <claydoh> blizzz: no agreements, he did tell me there mighgt be a translation coming :)(
[18:01] <blizzz> there's one issue left: i do not use quassel either and have not installed it, thus i don't know wether i translated menu-entries and options correctly
[18:01] <blizzz> well, here it is :D
[18:02] <claydoh> I can look at it maybe, the menus and such should be easy
[18:02] <blizzz> great
[18:03] <claydoh> once I get my monitor situation corrected, I may try out quassel as cleint-core
[18:03] <blizzz> probably the translation itself can be improved here and there since mcas (who translated some parts aswell) and i are not native speaker
[18:06] <claydoh> blizzz: not bad actually. it is much better than I would have done traslating something from English to German that ius for sure
[18:06]  * claydoh is American, and thus mostly know only one language :)
[18:06] <blizzz> well, i guess german is worse to learn
[18:07] <claydoh> maybe
[18:07]  * blizzz was born in poland but moved at the age of three to germany
[18:07] <blizzz> unfortunately i have no polish skills any more :(
[18:08] <claydoh> I used to be able to speak enough Spanish to keep out of  trouble, but have forgotten most of it too
[18:09] <blizzz> una cerveza por favor?
[18:09] <blizzz> or something like it :)
[18:09] <ScottK> claydoh: Your screen shots are going to need updating since there's a toolbar now ...
[18:09] <claydoh> I know :)
[18:10] <claydoh> blizzz: pretty much, plus enough to buy repair parts for the Simca car we had
[18:12] <blizzz> have you been in spain?
[18:13] <claydoh> ?me lived on the island of Menorca for 1.5 years, back in 1980-1981
[18:13] <claydoh> my father was military, and they had a small station there
[18:14] <blizzz> not a bad place ;)
[18:15] <claydoh> no, very nice, nice people too
[18:20] <blizzz> back to the quassel-doc, how do we procced further?
[18:21] <claydoh> maybe just some editing to the translation, I can work on that some, though it is pretty good over all :)
[18:22] <claydoh> though it will take me a little time as I do have a lot to do the next few days
[18:23] <claydoh> mostly at work, so away fromm the keyboard :(
[18:23] <blizzz> cool, thanks. that is okay, it took us about 2.5weeks to go this far, so take your time
[18:24] <blizzz> i mean take as much time as you need, don't hurry
[18:24] <claydoh> :)
[18:39] <vorian> claydoh: is there a way to use a server password and nickserv password (with quassel)
[18:45] <stdin> it's in the Networks config section
[18:46] <stdin> you can set a server password or use the Auto Identify tab
[19:42] <rgreening> Hobbsee: \o/
[19:42] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: /
[19:43] <rgreening> OMG I so cant type
[19:44] <smarter> rgreening: howdy, tested Qt 4.5rc1? :]
[19:44] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: that's cool. it's great that it's real close
[19:44] <rgreening> smarter: yup
[19:44] <rgreening> works great here.
[19:44] <smarter> cool
[19:44] <smarter> no crash?
[19:44] <rgreening> smarter: I would appreciate you testing KDE/Qt from my PPA
[19:44] <rgreening> smarter: not anymore
[19:44] <smarter> 'kay
[19:45] <rgreening> smarter: I rebuilt KDE and related bits in my PPA
[19:45] <smarter> feel any difference for perfs?
[19:45] <rgreening> smarter: I haven't noticed anything in particular...
[19:46] <claydoh> ScottK: heh check out my new sig http://forum.kde.org:80/claydoh-u-322.html
[19:46] <claydoh> oopps wrong profile
[19:46] <smarter> your ppa is rgreening?
[19:46] <smarter> cool
[19:46] <rgreening> smarter: ~roderick-greening
[19:46] <claydoh> dumb konq
[19:46] <claydoh> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3101432.msg168396#msg168396
[19:46] <rgreening> smarter: https://launchpad.net/~roderick-greening/+archive/ppa
[19:47] <ScottK> claydoh: Nice.
[19:48] <Hobbsee> rgreening: hrm?
[19:48] <rgreening> Hobbsee: I meant to type Jo<tab> but typed Ho<tab> :)  hehe... but Hi anyway :P
[19:49] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[19:49] <Hobbsee> fair enough :)
[19:49] <Hobbsee> and hi!
[19:49] <rgreening> I have FAT fingers this morning
[19:49] <Hobbsee> oh dear
[19:51] <rgreening> :P
[19:52] <rgreening> smarter: if you have any issues, please let me know. the more testing the more confident we can be on poping qt 4.5.0 in to Jaunty. I have some changes to merge later from fabo (debian).
[19:53] <smarter> rgreening: okay, my connection sucks right now, but I'll be sure to test these packages(have been waiting for a long time for QtWebKit with flash and QTestLib benchmark thingy :p)
[19:54] <rgreening> ty smarter
[19:54] <rgreening> time is running out
[20:04] <astromme> rgreening: How is 4.5 working with 4.2? I've gotten reports that it's working fine with kde trunk... but that's not jaunty material
[20:09] <Quintasan> Hi, I'm fighting with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skim/+bug/290304 , I have changed skim.install in debian/ to point to right directory (hicolor) and commented a line in control which deleted an non-existing file. There seems to be a problem with scons, build log: http://wklej.org/id/50004/
[21:02] <vorian> Quintasan: if you are around in a few hours, i'll take a look
[21:04] <Quintasan> vorian: ok, I'll drink some coffee ;)
[21:05] <vorian> roger
[21:05] <jjesse> mmm coffee
[21:05] <jjesse> i think my wife and i are on the 3rd pot today :)
[21:06] <Quintasan> :D
[21:06] <Tm_T> 3rd? it's 1300 there now?
[22:09] <vital> Is Pulseaudio supposed to work OK with kde4-phonon?
[22:09] <smarter> don't think so
[22:10] <vital> okay, just what I though :)
[22:10] <smarter> http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2009/01/i-will-not-drink-koolaide.html << it messed up aseigo system :p
[22:10] <vital> hehe, I'll read that one :)
[22:54] <calc> Riddell: ping
[23:04] <Quintasan> vorian: ping


[00:51] <hakimsheriff> Hey all
[00:51] <Muscovy> Hello.
[00:52] <hakimsheriff> Anything new?
[00:54] <Muscovy> Not too much.
[22:17] <MadnessRed> hi all
[22:19] <Muscovy> Hello.
[22:25] <MadnessRed> can we have another meeting soon
[22:26] <Muscovy> Yes.
[22:26] <MadnessRed> we need to organise people into getting the new layout sorted
[22:26] <Muscovy> By the way, sorry I missed your emails about the new-lang-system and so on.
[22:27] <Muscovy> My mail apparently has been down for at least the last week. :|
[22:27] <MadnessRed> kk :/
[22:27] <MadnessRed> I should probably write a follow up to that email now launchpad translations are set up
[22:27] <Muscovy> Good idea.
[22:29] <MadnessRed> when we get the new system sorted, I'll see what I can do about getting another article on omg!ubuntu!
[22:30] <Muscovy> That would be great.
[22:31] <MadnessRed> the other thing is, the six main categories, we need to decide what they will be before we can start importing the tours