[19:06] <kerry_> krash: how to install compiz fusion
[19:07] <Nasj> krash yoyu mean virtual machines ?
[19:07] <krash> Nasj: Aye that's what I mean
[19:07] <Nasj> VMware
[19:07] <Nasj> Virtualbox
[19:07] <krash> virtualbox is the one I used last *nods*
[19:08] <Nasj> both good ones
[19:08] <krash> Nasj thanks
[19:08] <Nasj> np
[19:08] <Nasj> and if you ahve the time
[19:08] <Nasj> set this up
[19:08] <Nasj> http://xkcd.com/350/
[19:08] <ncfi1013_> why when i try to burn movies in k3b does it not go past preparing the data for burning
[19:09] <kerry_> krash: how to install compiz
[19:10] <ncfi1013_> why when i try to burn movies in k3b does it not go past preparing the data for burning
[19:10] <krash> Nasj: *laughs* nice strip
[19:10] <Nasj> :p
[19:10] <Nasj> set it up
[19:10] <Nasj> than you can laugh :P
[19:12] <keyzek> hi
[19:12] <keyzek> i want compile program in C++
[19:12] <krash> Nasj: Hrmm how do you set it up?
[19:12] <keyzek> how i can use program gcc
[19:12] <keyzek> ?
[19:12] <Nasj> lots of virtual machines
[19:12] <krash> keyzek: g++
[19:12] <Nasj> :P
[19:13] <Nasj> make a virtual network between them
[19:13] <krash> Nasj: Oh I get it haha
[19:13] <Nasj> amke sure they cant connetc with your main computer
[19:13] <trenton_> Hi, anyway I can get kernel 2.6.27 in hardy please?
[19:13] <Nasj> than download all viruses you can xds
[19:13] <krash> Nasj: that would be funny
[19:13] <Nasj> and evry once in a while
[19:13] <Nasj> randomly
[19:13] <Nasj> scan a computer
[19:13] <Nasj> and delete
[19:14] <sudi> ok back
[19:14] <sudi> now i'm on linux
[19:14] <Nasj> be sure you scan every half hour
[19:14] <Nasj> to keep track of the birus movements :P
[19:14] <sudi> but wireless is still not working
[19:14] <keyzek> krash thx ;)
[19:14] <krash> keyzek: np :)
[19:14] <sudi> now i'm sitting next to the device with a cable
[19:14] <sudi> krash...
[19:14] <Nasj> I should probably install linux too
[19:14] <krash> sudi: hardwired?
[19:14] <sudi> yea
[19:14] <sudi> h
[19:15] <Freku> wireless to dangerous anyway   use homeplug solution
[19:15] <Freku> :)
[19:15] <krash> sudi: update your system?
[19:15] <keyzek> i'm beginner user ubuntu :)
[19:15] <Nasj> I read a lot
[19:15] <Nasj> but haven't installed linux yet
[19:15] <krash> Nasj: Me too, too much at times
[19:15] <Nasj> ecxept puppy linux
[19:15] <sudi> i just did
[19:15] <Nasj> and DSL
[19:16] <sudi> installed like 79 upes
[19:16] <ncfi1013_> why when i try to burn movies in k3b does it not go past preparing the data for burning
[19:16] <krash> Nasj: why are you in a kubuntu chatroom then? hehe
[19:16] <sudi> but still the knetwokmanager isn't working right
[19:16] <Nasj> cause im planning on installing kubuntu
[19:16] <sudi> somehow themanual config isn't working
[19:16] <krash> sudi: was any of them wireless tools?
[19:16] <sudi> nope
[19:16] <Alfonso> hello everybody
[19:16] <Nasj> and kubuntu seems nice to start with :D
[19:16] <Alfonso> can somebody help me
[19:16] <Alfonso> i just cant install my video driver
[19:16] <sudi> any suggestions about wireless tools krash
[19:17] <Freku> yeah  i went to kubuntu about half year ago
[19:17] <Freku> dont have any complaints
[19:17] <Alfonso> i have a Compaq Presario v3418 with Nvidia 6500 GO
[19:17] <Freku> struggled in beginning with videodrivers a bit but after that  :)
[19:17] <krash> sudi: I'm thinking still, but not coming up with anything
[19:18] <Nasj> lol @ http://xkcd.com/214/
[19:18] <Nasj> I always end up at lesbiansim i nerotica
[19:18] <krash> Alfonso: You need proprietary drivers from nvidia, what kubuntu you running?
[19:19] <keyzek> i have g++ and how can i compile program ??
[19:19] <krash> Alfonso:  sudo aptitude search nvidia
[19:19] <sudi> krash: just installed wireless assitant
[19:19] <sudi> can't find it now^
[19:19] <Alfonso> krash: its version 8.04
[19:19] <Alfonso> krash: ive try Envy package and didnt work
[19:20] <krash> keyzek: I believe it's g++ -c test.c
[19:20] <krash> then it'd be g++ -o test test.o
[19:20] <krash> then ./test but don't hold me to that either also been a while
[19:21] <Nasj> krash
[19:21] <krash> Alfonso that's weird, because my card is either the same one or very similiar and mine works
[19:21] <Nasj> you know a bit more bout partitiniong ?
[19:21] <krash> Nasj: that I do frequently enough yeah
[19:21] <Nasj> ok
[19:21] <Nasj> good
[19:22] <Nasj> cause i now have like a 80gig windows HDD
[19:22] <Nasj> and also a 500gig HDD for storage
[19:22] <Alfonso> krash: could it be something with the compiz pakage??
[19:22] <sudi> trying something be right back
[19:22] <sudi> exit
[19:22] <Nasj> can i partition like 25 - 50 gig of that storage HDD and install kubuntu on that ?
[19:22] <krash> Alfonso: I don't believe so, I believe the nvidia module has to be inserted on bootup...
[19:23] <krash> Nasj: I'm running on a 35 gig kubuntu partition right now and yes you could
[19:24] <krash> Nasj: HOWEVER... your computer boots from the 80 gig hdd right?
[19:24] <Nasj> yes
[19:24] <krash> You'll need to install the bootloader there...
[19:24] <Nasj> oh
[19:24] <Nasj> does that mean
[19:24] <Nasj> lot of hassle ?
[19:24] <Alfonso> krash: it worked almost properly once, with the 3d stuff, if i had 4 desktops it only recognized 2 of them
[19:24] <keyzek> krash i have one question where i must save test.c ??
[19:25] <krash> Nasj: unless your bios allows you to choose your boot hdd
[19:25] <Nasj> it does
[19:25] <Nasj> but then verythime i want to switch i need to change that inm y BIOS ?
[19:25] <Alfonso> krash: which driver worked for you??
[19:26] <krash> keyzek: anywhere you want, usually your home directory ie. /home/keyzek/  should make a directory ie (mkdir src)
[19:26] <krash> Alfonso: one second I'll see which one I'm using
[19:27] <sudi> muhaha i tricked the connection
[19:28] <sudi> krash: i found a "solution"
[19:28] <krash> Alfonso: Okay to be noted, I'm using the beta version of kubuntu 8.10... I go to system, kmenu,apps,hardware drivers, and nvidia 177
[19:28] <sudi> i used the Wireless Asisstent to connect the network
[19:28] <Nasj> i never liked it when solution was within qoutation maks
[19:28] <krash> sudi: Nice :)
[19:28] <sudi> i guess its bc the wireless "router" has no dhcp
[19:28] <sudi> and i was not able to use the knetworkmanager manual config
[19:28] <Alfonso> krash: ok ill try it thanx
[19:29] <sudi> bc the programm is not installed somehow
[19:29] <Nasj> krash
[19:29] <genii> Hexagown: Apologies. Today is extremely busy for me here at work and they keep calling me away from the computer.
[19:29] <krash> Alfonso: So it should still be in your kde 3.5 somewhere just don't know where offhand...
[19:29] <Nasj> (20:24:59) <krash> Nasj: unless your bios allows you to choose your boot hdd
[19:29] <Nasj> (20:25:11) * javi<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #kubuntu
[19:29] <Nasj> (20:25:11) <Nasj> it does
[19:29] <Nasj> (20:25:27) <Nasj> but then verythime i want to switch i need to change that inm y BIOS ?
[19:30] <krash> Nasj: Sorry, my bios has an option if i push f8 I can choose what to boot from...
[19:30] <Nasj> mine has that too
[19:30] <Nasj> but i dont know if linux will show up in there
[19:30] <krash> linux won't but if you can boot from the storage hdd then you'll be fine
[19:31] <Alfonso> krash: ok, i find it, ill try what you just said.
[19:31] <krash> the bootloader will install to the master boot record of the storage hdd
[19:31] <krash> Alfonso: Good luck :)
[19:32] <GSF1200S> hello
[19:32] <sudi> thanks for all your help
[19:32] <GSF1200S> does anyone in here know what the package is called for the Kubuntu control panel
[19:32] <Nasj> well
[19:32] <Alfonso> krash: guess ill need it :)
[19:32] <Nasj> the storage hdd doesnt show uo
[19:32] <krash> Alfonso: but if you have a couple gigs free on the windows hdd, I'd install it there, and just make a partition on the storage hdd for well storage
[19:32] <Nasj> cause there isnt an os installed there ?
[19:33] <Nasj> when i press F8
[19:33] <Nasj> i get the option to chose WINDOWS safe mode
[19:33] <Nasj> or MS-DOS
[19:33] <Nasj> and that stuff
[19:33] <Freku> then you pressed F8 too late
[19:33] <krash> ahh that's not the bios that's windows itself
[19:33] <Alfonso> krash: actually i have 3 partitions, windows, storage, kubuntu
[19:33] <krash> Alfonso: I'm sorry that was meant to go to Nasj :P
[19:34] <Alfonso> krash: lol
[19:34] <Nasj> ill go and see how much i got left
[19:34] <Nasj> but
[19:34] <genii> GSF1200S: usually kcontrol
[19:34] <Nasj> is my windows isntallation save ?
[19:35] <Nasj> cause i believe i once fucked up bigtime
[19:35] <Nasj> while trying linux
[19:35] <Nasj> now
[19:35] <Nasj> while trying to partition
[19:35] <krash> Nasj: I've never messed up one yet
[19:35] <Freku> always have a backup
[19:35] <Freku> before major changes
[19:35] <Nasj> Freku
[19:35] <Freku> yes ?
[19:35] <genii> Nasj: Please, watch the language :)
[19:35] <Nasj> all my files are on a diff HD
[19:35] <krash> Nasj: but Freku gives good advice I'm wreckless :)
[19:35] <Nasj> ok genii
[19:36] <genii> Nasj: Thanks
[19:36] <GSF1200S> genii: kcontrol is for KDE. I installed the kernel and installed kdebase on top of that- I need the kubuntu specific contol center for power management
[19:36] <Nasj> krash can my storage hd be used for both linux and windows ?
[19:37] <krash> Nasj: Aye :)
[19:37] <krash> Nasj: Great thing about linux it can read/write to both, but windows can't :P
[19:37] <stdin> GSF1200S: kde-systemsettings
[19:37] <Nasj> but my /home folder will be on the OS HDD ?
[19:37] <Nasj> yeah
[19:37] <Nasj> linux kicks
[19:37] <GSF1200S> stdin: thanks alot
[19:37] <krash> Nasj: However you're still going to want your linux running on an ext3 or reiserfs partition
[19:38] <Nasj> reiserfs ?
[19:38] <krash> Nasj: You can make your home folder on your storage hdd
[19:38] <Freku> i thought reiserfs is no longer developed .  jailtime ?
[19:38] <pteague_work> is there any way i can default konqueror to tree view for directories?
[19:38] <genii> GSF1200S: I think kde-guidance , or similar
[19:38] <Nasj> wont that be a hassle krash ?
[19:39] <krash> Nasj: I'm not sure, I believe the partitioner will recognize both hard drives
[19:39] <GSF1200S> genii: you and stdin were both right.. thanks!
[19:39] <krash> Nasj: should be easier than ya think
[19:39] <Nasj> 16 gig free
[19:40] <Freku> pff not much
[19:40] <Nasj> out of 76
[19:40] <krash> Freku: what? no more reiserfs?
[19:40] <Nasj> Freku thats on my OS HDD
[19:40] <krash> Nasj: Move stuff to your storage hdd and defrag your os hdd :P
[19:41] <Freku> i read somewhere that the creator of reiser is in jail for killing
[19:41] <Nasj> O.o
[19:41] <Freku> i thought his wife
[19:41] <Nasj> krash
[19:41] <Nasj> all that usage are fro minstalled programms
[19:42] <krash> Nasj: that would be horrible if true, reiserfs4 was looking so promising :P
[19:43] <Nasj> ?
[19:43] <Nasj> i think you mean Freku
[19:43] <genii> It is true but work on reiserfs continues.
[19:43] <krash> blah yep
[19:43] <Freku> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Reiser#Trial_and_Verdict
[19:43] <Freku> read it
[19:43] <krash> Nasj: Anyway of clearing up more space on the OS hdd?
[19:43] <Freku> :)
[19:44] <Nasj> yeah
[19:44] <Nasj> im trying
[19:44] <Nasj> :P
[19:44] <maggo79> hi
[19:44] <maggo79> there are new ati-drivers (not yet linked)
[19:44] <maggo79> https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8-10-x86.x86_64.run
[19:44] <Freku> San Quentin state prison
[19:45] <genii> maggo79: Thanks for the link
[19:45] <Nasj> maybe worht to mention
[19:45] <Nasj> ive got an other partition
[19:45] <Nasj> called RECOVERY
[19:45] <Nasj> its for when i screw up badly
 never trust an unofficial link </warning>
[19:45] <Freku> :)
[19:45] <Nasj> and i mess windows up
[19:46] <krash> wow can't say I haven't ever felt like killing my wife but sheesh :P
[19:46] <genii> stdin: Actually the akamai.net is where ati does store their downloads
[19:46] <Freku> easier to make an image with a tool like trueimage or ghost
[19:46] <Nasj> it rerutns C:\ back to fabric defaults
[19:46] <genii> ati/amd
[19:46] <Freku> dell computer ?
[19:46] <Nasj> compaq :p
[19:46] <stdin> genii: if it's not announced, it may not be the final version or could have other problems
[19:47] <genii> stdin: Ah, true
[19:47] <stdin> just like when the ubuntu ISOs are being seeded on the servers before announced
[19:48]  * krash sighs
[19:48] <krash> mother-in-law coming over...
[19:48] <Tm_T> krash: good reason to sing
[19:48] <krash> only woman worse than my wife haha
[19:48] <Nasj> haha
[19:48] <krash> good reason to get a bottle of jack :P
[19:49] <Tm_T> also very offtopic
[19:49] <Freku> maybe wait for ext4
[19:49] <Freku> :)
[19:49] <krash> anyone else using the beta version 8.10 of kubuntu?
[19:50] <genii> krash: Probably a lot of people in the #ubunt+1 channel ... ;)
[19:50] <genii> #ubuntu+1    even
[19:50] <krash> I'm still trying to get the liquid weather++ to work :P
[19:50]  * genii smacks his keyboard a bit
[19:50] <krash> genii: Is that for the testers?
[19:50] <Nasj> hmm
[19:50] <genii> krash: It's for 8.10 period
[19:50] <Nasj> am i going to stay up all night and install kubuntu ?
[19:51] <Tm_T> Nasj: sure you do
[19:51] <Tm_T> Nasj: though it only takes 30 minutes
[19:51] <Freku> just sleep on it
[19:51] <Freku> :)
[19:51] <Nasj> thats what i tought
[19:51] <krash> Nasj: *laughs* naww about 30 minutes to install it the rest of the night tinkering with it hehe
[19:51] <Nasj> yeah thats what i meant
[19:52] <krash> well afk a bit guys ... :(
[19:52] <maggo79> announced: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
[19:52] <Nasj> I just know that when i install kubuntu i cant be pulled away from my computer for at least another 12 hours
[19:52] <Freku> cu next week then
[19:52] <Freku> :)
[19:52] <Nasj> :p
[19:52] <krash> I haven't used my windows boot on this comp in about a month :)
[19:52] <mmarante> girl here?
[19:53] <Freku> yeah  it grows on you
[19:54] <maggo79> <- is restating X to test the new ati drivers
[19:54] <Freku> <- cant wait for the results   :)
[20:01] <itsatrick> I'm trying to upgrade (an install now) KDE4 per these instructions: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.2.  However, I have a lot of broken dependencies and when I do think I've installed KDE, everything's white except for a few icons that failed to load.  Anyone else having this problem?  Solutions?  thanks.
[20:08] <maggo79> 8.10 catalyst drivers running
[20:09] <maggo79> videos play without flickerung with kde4 desktop effect enabled
[20:09] <mrksbrd> has anyone attempted printing thru a printserver that is on a windows system
[20:10] <maggo79> gamma is adjustable for each monitor seperatly
[20:39] <bdizzle> hi, I was wondering how to update the signatures on ClamTK (yes, I know Linux doesn't need virus scan, but I recently booted into windows this past weekend and wanted to be sure
[20:40] <bdizzle> I tried from GUI and it claims I need to be root to do it
[20:41] <NickPresta> bdizzle, kdesudo clamav
[20:41] <bdizzle> k, thanks
[20:44] <krash> back
[20:46] <krash> cancel that got more stuff to do
[20:47] <MHz128> hi all
[20:47] <MHz128> how do I search for a file using kubuntu?
[20:47] <krash> man find
[20:47] <krash> err second
[20:49] <krash> MHz128: there should be a search or find in konqueror I believe
[20:50] <spiroo> hello, I need help.
[20:50] <MHz128> 10 4 thanks
[20:50] <spiroo> I accidently removed my root user
[20:50] <krash> MHz128: Mine's under tools, find file...
[20:51] <spiroo> after that I should install the new kubntu beta, which removed everything, almost. Well, because of the lack of root, dpkg throw an error and I cannot install anything.
[20:51] <fernando> hi
[20:51] <krash> spiroo: If it's a fresh install, just reinstall
[20:52] <Coggz> hi all, needing some assistance
[20:52] <mijagi> siema
[20:52] <spiroo> krash: No it is not a fresh install
[20:52] <mijagi> yo, how live?
[20:52] <spiroo> krash: I need to restore it without re-install whole kubuntu from cd.
[20:52] <Coggz> got a problem with TightVNC, VirtualBox and Windows XP
[20:52] <mijagi> who speak polish ??
[20:53] <Coggz> !po
[20:53] <krash> spiroo: can you still use sudo?
[20:53] <Coggz> !polish
[20:53] <spiroo> krash: yes :P
[20:53] <mijagi> dzieki
[20:53] <krash> spiroo: then you have to sudo adduser root and give it proper privilages & groups
[20:53] <fernando__> coggz wich is your problem?
[20:54] <spiroo> krash: Unfortunatly I cannot reinstall anything. Only have the console to work with. I think the adduser command is not available :D Because the package is removed I think, which make adduser possible.
[20:54] <Coggz> well, im running Kubuntu 7.10 in a virtual machine on windows xp host. I want the linux machine to connectable from outside, eg elsewhere and for friends to get a taste of linux.
[20:54] <krash> spiroo: adduser should never be removed :P
[20:55] <genii> spiroo: It's a catch-22 situation.
[20:55] <spiroo> krash: I know, BUT when I upgraded it apparantly did without my knowledge.
[20:55] <spiroo> genii: What do you mean?
[20:55] <krash> spiroo: I believe genii means you're SOL but I could be wrong :P
[20:56] <genii> spiroo: Eg: You need root user to make root user.
[20:56] <spiroo> lol :D
[20:56] <spiroo> Well, I have a root user account.
[20:56] <krash> Coggz: You behind a router?
[20:57] <genii> spiroo: Can you successfully run sudo with that user?
[20:57] <spiroo> The problem as I know it, my account refers to the root account, which does not exist.
[20:57] <Coggz> krash: yes, but i have dyndns forwarding my dynamic ip
[20:57] <spiroo> genii: Yes, I think so. Problem goes when I am trying to install something in aptitude.
[20:58] <krash> Coggz: Okay you going to let them vnc yeah?
[20:58] <Hexagown> Hello guys, now I have the 32bit vesion on Kubuntu
[20:58] <genii> spiroo: Does:  cat /etc/apsswd|grep root            show something like: root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash                      ?
[20:58] <krash> Coggz: and what virtual machine you using? vmware, virtualbox?
[20:58] <Coggz> krash: yes, thats the plan
[20:59] <Coggz> krash: virtual box
[20:59] <spiroo> genii: I do not know, I cannot test because I am in Vista for the moment.
[20:59] <krash> Coggz: Do you have a port forwareded to the machine for the vnc connection?
[20:59] <genii> Hexagown: Congrats :) The very first way that was tried on your card might work now
[21:00] <spiroo> genii: All GUI:s is gone! :D Because every single kde4 package was removed, almost ...
[21:00] <mrksbrd> anyone have anyidea wht i'm getting this error .....Bad device-uri "Lpd://<IP_ADDRESS>/L1"!
[21:00] <Hexagown> Yes, I did wrong before :D
[21:00] <Coggz> krash: yes, to the virtual machine, or to the internet, I have port 5900 to the internet but nothing else
[21:00] <ScorpKing> genii: and maybe grep passwd file for uid's above 1000? ;)
[21:00] <mrksbrd> trying to config CUPS
[21:00] <Hexagown> And now I have the OS at my language too :D
[21:00] <mrksbrd> to use with print server
[21:01] <krash> Coggz: port 5900 has to be forwarded <from> the net <to> the ip address of the computer running virtualbox...virtualbox should be able to open port 5900 unless it's used by another program
[21:01] <sarir> !uri
[21:01] <sarir> uff
[21:01] <spiroo> genii: Do you know if it is possible to fix dpkg. I need to re-install those programs I lost.
[21:02] <Hexagown> genii, can you send the drivers for DWA547 agan please?
[21:02] <Coggz> krash: right, my pc, IP: <IP_ADDRESS> has the virtual machine, Router is <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:02] <Coggz> krash: i have forwarded the port 5900 to that IP too
[21:02] <spiroo> Thats the thing I hate with every single operative system. You cannot do a rollback .... Would be great if you could make every single setting goes to default values and it begins as it was when you installed it at the first time.
[21:03] <krash> Coggz: and you have a vnc server running in the ubuntu vm?
[21:03] <Coggz> yes, tightvncserver
[21:04] <krash> Coggz: can you connect to it from the windows machine?
[21:05] <ryan_rohypnol> I have a question about sound I got my sound to work but everytime I restart I have to re enter the reset command to maek the sound work any suggestions?
[21:05] <Coggz> krash: no, i have tightvncviewer, but cannot seem to connect
[21:06] <mrksbrd> !cups
[21:06] <krash> Coggz: can you connect inside the virtual machine?
[21:07] <Hexagown> Ehum, how do I start Envy, what command?
[21:07] <krash> Coggz: which is a bad idea btw, cause it'll go through an infinite loop but need to find out if it's running properly :P
[21:07] <Coggz> krash: ill just try... how do i connect from linux?
[21:07] <genii> Hexagown: The instructions we originally tried http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=490500  from about post3     need also the inf stuff: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=37973&d=1184235806  which rename to zip and extract somewhere that you specify path to ndiswrapper in the other commands from the 3rd post on there
[21:08] <krash> vncviewer <host>
[21:08] <Coggz> krash: kk
[21:08] <Hexagown> Thanks
[21:08]  * Nasj back
[21:08] <krash> wb Nasj
[21:09] <krash> crap I just realized I'm still marked away and remembered why... bbiab guys
[21:09] <Coggz> krash: i think i may  need java
[21:10] <Nasj> lol
[21:10] <Nasj> krash you gonna go ?
[21:10] <krash> Well I'm supposed to be doing work here hehe
[21:11]  * krash coughs
[21:11] <krash> Let's just say I made a mess that I have to clean up :P
[21:11] <Coggz> ?
[21:11] <krash> ...before the wife gets home and buries me in the forest :P
[21:11] <krash> Coggz: You shouldn't need java
[21:12] <krash> Coggz: I believe the port issue may be a problem, don't hold me to it though, try a different port like 5901
[21:12] <Coggz> krash: well, when i went to connect, it chucked up all kinds of java errors, and i realised 'I don't have java, dammit'
[21:12] <Nasj> krash and your mother in law too
[21:13] <krash> Nasj: *laughs* naww she left thankfully
[21:13] <Coggz> that is the port i am using... but not the one i have forwardedd, doh
[21:13] <Nasj> hmm
[21:13] <krash> Coggz: 9/10 times it's a simple mistake :)
[21:13] <Nasj> I hate it
[21:13] <Coggz> ill try that out
[21:13] <Nasj> when i need to rewrite my perform
[21:13] <Nasj> so useless
[21:14] <Nasj> why cnat i just add something to auto oin
[21:14] <krash> Okay afk a bit guys gotta get *something* done here
[21:15]  * Nasj wonders what that *something* is
[21:15] <Nasj> I am guessing we'll never know for sure
[21:16] <Coggz> krash: okay, i still can't connect
[21:18] <jannikhp> anyone know of any drivers(PN800 via intergraded) for ubuntu 8.04 ? :)
[21:22] <nado> how can i change the entries in the application list?
[21:22] <nado> i gotta get rid of those old gnome app entries that i have since i installed kde
[21:23] <nado> and where can i set konqueror to be the standard application for browsing my filesystem?
[21:24] <spiroo> Im back.  But I haven't had to do it before
[21:27] <Coggz> krash: u still about/
[21:27] <spiroo> genii: Neither do I ... :P Ah annoying
[21:29] <nado> where can i set konqueror to be the standard application for browsing my filesystem?
[21:29] <genii> spiroo: You might be able to do it from livecd and adding manually into places like /etc/passwd   /etc/shadow   and /etc/group      but you'd need to know what to put there
[21:29] <ryan_rohypnol> perl udp.pl <IP_ADDRESS> 650000 PEACE IRC :)
[21:30] <spiroo> genii: Well, I am not that pro ...
[21:31] <Dustin3> ok Kubuntu peoples
[21:32] <Dustin3> I really want to use it, I tried.. I really did
[21:32] <Dustin3> I'm failing at life
[21:33] <Dustin3> I'm having an issue with GRUB
[21:33] <Dustin3> it's either not installing or if it DOES install, it won't regonize my partitions
[21:34] <genii> Dustin3: Is it some RAIDed storage?
[21:36] <mithras> is it possible to get the kipi-plugins into ubuntu without having the complete kdelibs5-dev tree installed?
[21:36] <Dustin3> genii no it's a standard SATA drive
[21:36] <Dustin3> 160GB, partitioned for Windows and Kubuntu
[21:38] <Dustin3> I had it working fine with Ubuntu 8.04
[21:38] <Dustin3> recently
[21:38] <Dustin3> but the Kubnuntu installer seems to be pooass :(
[21:39] <Dustin3> I'm downloading 8.10 beta to try it
[21:39] <ScorpKing> Dustin3: have you tried installing grub manually?
[21:39] <Dustin3> Honestly, I'm really pretty dumb
[21:39] <Dustin3> I did some research
[21:39] <Dustin3> but obviously I can't do it through Windows
[21:39] <ScorpKing> !enter
[21:40] <Dustin3> Sorry, bad habit
[21:40] <ScorpKing> np :)
[21:43] <ScorpKing> Dustin3: you can boot from the livecd and fix grub
[21:43] <Dustin3> Ahhh
[21:43] <Dustin3> ok hmm
[21:46] <ScorpKing> Dustin3: mount your root linux partition on /mnt while on the livecd. check that /mnt/boot/grub/device.map contains the correct drives and if you are happy run - sudo grubinstall --root-directory=/mnt/ hd0
[21:46] <genii> Sorry for lag, work is quite busy right now
[21:47] <ScorpKing> Dustin3: sorry that's supposed to be grub-install with the - in there
[21:47]  * ScorpKing hands genii some fresh coffee and dougnuts..
[21:48] <genii> Yay coffee!
[21:48]  * genii sips and munches
[21:48] <ScorpKing> hehe..
[21:48] <Dustin3> hmm ok
[21:49] <Dustin3> cheers guys
[21:49] <Dustin3> I'll give it a go
[21:50] <david> What command do I use to install ndiswrapper?
[21:51] <genii> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.9                     for hardy
[21:51] <Hexagown> ty
[21:51] <genii> Hexagown: np
[21:54] <Hexagown> YES!! It works!!!!
[21:54] <genii> Yay!
[21:54] <Hexagown> have to reboot! ty for helping me out! :D
[21:54] <genii> Hexagown: Glad it finally got sorted out
[21:54] <Hexagown> I'm so extream happy dude, I really stupid and noobich, but I think iv leard ALOT today.
[21:55] <Hexagown> Thanks!
[21:55] <genii> Hexagown: You're welcome
[21:55] <Hexagown> I'll reboot now, cya soon
[21:55]  * ScorpKing smiles..
[21:56] <chfwiggum> gd evening irc!
[21:56] <mithras> sry for asking the same question, but is it possible to get the kipi-plugins into ubuntu without having the complete kdelibs5-dev tree installed?
[21:56]  * genii hands chfwiggum a coffee
[21:56] <chfwiggum> genii: thx a bunch
[21:56] <genii> chfwiggum: np
[21:57] <chfwiggum> is blue-ray already supported in ubuntu/linux?
[21:57] <genii> mithras: Have you tried to just sudo apt-get install kipi-plugins        ?
[21:58] <mithras> yea, it will remove the qt4 version of digikam, but i try to install the kipi-plugins for kde4
[21:58] <genii> chfwiggum: As far as I know, yes. eg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[21:59] <chfwiggum> genii: ty
[21:59] <mithras> digikam for kde3 is available with kipi-plugins. But they updated digikam to kde4-version and left the kipi-plugins out. Trying to compile from svn I need kdelibs5-dev, cmake sais
[21:59] <mithras> *says
[22:02] <genii> Time for me to logoff temporarily. See you all later
[22:03] <Hexagown> Well guys, Iv learned alot today, but I have to go to bed now, but I'll join in tomorrow, Bye!
[22:12] <DarkSmoke> yo
[22:12] <DarkSmoke> has yesterday's problem been fixed in intrepid?
[22:12] <DarkSmoke> the one that when you update the system there's no net ?
[22:14] <dystopianray> DarkSmoke: you'd want to ask that in #kubuntu+1
[22:22] <lockout> ouaiiiiiiiis
[22:22] <lockout> ubuntu en force
[22:25] <sarir> !devices
[22:25] <sarir> !device
[22:25] <sarir> i cant download pictures from my camera
[22:25] <sarir> through the usb.....
[22:25] <sarir> arg
[22:25] <aniita> olaa
[22:26] <itsatrick> Anybody having trouble installing KDE 4 in Ubuntu 8.10?  When I do and I log in via KDE4, I get a white screen, no kicker, and some icons that didn't load.
[22:26] <sarir> any idea how to solve the problem?
[22:26] <sarir> camera settings doesnt work
[22:26] <sarir> nothing to do
[22:30] <Dirus> is there a way to make the windows (meta) key bring up the app menu without removing the ability to make meta+KEY combos?
[22:30] <Dirus> on google all I find is people renumbering the meta key to be F13, which gets rid of it's ability to act as a modifier
[22:31] <dr_willis> #kde may know Dirus , ive seen that question asked in here befor.. personally I dont want ti to open the menu. :)  I perfer it as a modifier only key.
[22:32] <Dirus> I wouldn't use it as such either, but I'm just trying to set it up for a friend's mother and wanted to make the key bindings as close to windows as possible
[22:33] <jhutchins_wk> Dirus: I like having the left key be Menu and the right key be Meta.
[22:33] <jhutchins_wk> I like my deadkey compose strings.
[23:02] <exal> hi mrs, how are you in this beautiful day?
[23:27] <peer`> does kubuntu 7.04 have a built in utility for mounting .iso files?
[23:29] <trappist> !iso
[23:31] <peer`> now, when the image is mounted (will be mounting the Kubuntu 8.04 iso to install the OS), would it be viable to reformat the drive with new partitions while running kubuntu 7.04 off of one of those partitions or should I reformat from a LiveCD? Keep in mind I plan on doing a dual boot kubuntu/winxp pro setup.
[23:37] <rickest> LiveCD
[23:37] <peer`> alright
[23:38] <rickest> clear
[23:38] <peer`> when doing a dual boot install, should I install winxp or kubuntu furst
[23:38] <peer`> *first
[23:38] <rickest> peer`: absolutey winxp
[23:39] <peer`> alright, and in the winxp partitioner should I format it as two ntfs parts or one ntfs part and one unparted
[23:39] <rickest> the latter
[23:39] <peer`> alright
[23:39] <rickest> you don't really need to format it, just make sure an empty partition exists
[23:39] <peer`> yeah
[23:39] <peer`> well that's what I was asking
[23:40] <rickest> kubuntu will, I believe, recommend ext3 which should be good for you
[23:40] <peer`> yeah, it uses ext3
[23:40] <peer`> i installed 7.04 earlier today
[23:40] <peer`> before realizing that
[23:41] <peer`> 1. I could still need winxp, 2. there's a newer distro
[23:41] <rickest> heh.  if you ever do linux THEN XP, it can be fixed but you'll need a LiveCD again and a little knowledge on reinstalling grub
[23:41] <peer`> oh crap
[23:41] <peer`> haha
[23:41] <peer`> well
[23:41] <peer`> I am pretty much
[23:41] <peer`> the definition of noob
[23:42] <rickest> we all are about something  :)
[23:42] <peer`> in the terminal window
[23:42] <peer`> I can
[23:42] <peer`> man stuff
[23:42] <peer`> and xeyes
[23:42] <rickest> xeyes++  that one goes way back, you use a mac before?
[23:43] <peer`> yeah way back when
[23:43] <peer`> like Macintosh II
[23:43] <peer`> I still have my tetris and simcity floppies for the Mac II
[23:43] <rickest> lol sweet
[23:43] <peer`> yeah
[23:43] <peer`> tetris, super tetris and simcity
[23:44] <peer`> how stable is KDE4.1.2?
[23:44] <rickest> have heard mostly good but haven't tried it personally
[23:45] <peer`> Is KDE 4.0 stable?
[23:45] <peer`> I want to run KDE 4.x but don't want to run an unstable environment
[23:45] <rickest> I'm still on 3.5.9
[23:46] <peer`> ah
[23:50] <nelsonstreet> Anyone get VLC player to work on Kubuntu yet?
[23:55] <PEAKTOP> how to completely remove kubuntu-desktop ?
[23:56] <user_> hey
[23:56] <dr_Willis> fire up the package manager, search for kde, start removing things. is one way
[23:56] <dr_Willis> !puregnome
[23:56] <dr_Willis> is another way. follow that guide.
[23:56] <dr_Willis> Good Luck


[01:06] <mrooney|w> Hello, I noticed the installation instructions say "If you see "Could not find package 'ubuntuone-client-gnome'.", just click the install button a  second time. This is a known issue" but the bug is marked as Fix Released in 9.04+, should that be removed?
[01:56] <jtatum> yep...
[11:26] <arand> Privacy concern: Bug reports of ubuntuone contains file .home.mw..cache.ubuntuone.log.syncdaemon.log.txt which lists all files in ubuntuone,
[12:41] <thisfred> morning folks
[13:17]  * jblount_ waves a hello
[13:42] <statik> hi rodrigo_, using todays version of tomboy in karmic when i go to the sync tab, it is pre-filled to www.ubuntuone.com/notes, but clicking the button immediately returns with 'server not responding'. we don't use the www prefix, so i wonder if tomboy can't handle the redirect?
[13:44] <jblount_> statik: Hi! Does removing the www cause the applet to crash for you?
[13:46] <statik> jblount, it sure does. can you report it? ubuntu-bug tomboy i think
[13:46] <statik> jblount, are you back today?
[13:46] <jblount> statik: will do, I'm FACEing it up today, so seems right within my jobs.
[13:47] <jblount> Yes! back in action.
[13:47] <statik> yay
[13:47] <arand> Bug #419821
[13:47] <jblount> Remind me never to go to a church meeting that is all day... ever again.
[13:48] <arand> sorry Bug #419895
[13:48] <arand> Should privacy concerns like this be marked as security* as well?
[13:48] <jblount> arand: I saw you mention that earlier, sorry no one got back with you.
[13:49] <statik> arand, no; because they are not security concerns. i'm very interested in getting the privacy thing solved though
[13:50] <statik> the file name is a pretty key piece of information when trying to sort out a bug report in a file sharing tool
[13:50] <statik> but it's also probably surprising to some people that the log would have the filenames
[13:51] <jblount> statik: Would a warning solve most of the problem?
[13:51] <arand> jblount: no probs. got some help over in #ubuntu-bugs, so now it's reported as a bug at least.
[13:52] <statik> jblount, arand: we hook into ubuntu's apport system for collecting logs and reporting bugs, we may be able to flag our reports as containing sensitive information, or change how we log, or both
[13:53] <statik> today my main focus will be getting the metadata update related crashers in the version of ubuntuone-client that was released to karmic yesterday fixed.
[13:55] <arand> statik: yea, masking the log like I've done does leave out a lot of information... Preferable would be if specific attachments can be marked as private whilst the whole report remained public... but that's a feature request in LP I guess...
[13:58] <jblount> arand: That's assumming that the person submitting the log is cool with lp:~ubuntuone-hackers looking at their log, which may not always be the case.
[14:01] <arand> Indeed... Hm.. it seems the automatic set-to-public was done after my bug was declared a duplicate: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-client/+bug/419821 The 'original one' is still private... Is this an error on apport retracing service's part?
[14:01] <jblount> Ah, right on. This is an interesting problem though, I do appreciate you bringing it up.
[14:05] <statik> that sure sounds like a bug on the retracer
[14:06] <arand> jblount: statik: should I add apport (ubuntu) to this bug report then?
[14:08] <LordMetroid> What the hell, what kind of useless synchronization service is this if I can not keep my folders and symlinks synced...
[14:08] <LordMetroid> I have more than 700 files in my developement workspace I can't sit and upload each and everyone individually
[14:09] <jblount> LordMetroid: Hi! I'm not sure I understand "upload each and everyone individually", have you tried out the desktop client?
[14:10] <LordMetroid> It opens the firefox browser
[14:11] <jblount> LordMetroid: Absolutely :), it should do that just the first time though in order to get your computer associated with your Ubuntu One account via Oauth. Did you see a largish "add my computer" button?
[14:11] <LordMetroid> yes
[14:11] <LordMetroid> I added my computer
[14:12] <jblount> LordMetroid: Nice! With your computer added, moving folders and files into ~/Ubuntu One/ should get them started syncing / uploading, does that work for you?
[14:12] <LordMetroid> But where is the gnome client
[14:12] <LordMetroid> ahaa
[14:12] <LordMetroid> That was sneaky
[14:13] <jblount> LordMetroid: It is a client, but the real beauty is that we're using the awesomness of Nautilus and the Gnome desktop to hold your files. We're just doing some nice stuff to keep them sync'd up :)
[14:22] <LordMetroid> Interesting though the update seem to take sometime to say the least or maybe that is because I only have 25KiB/s download speed
[14:23] <LordMetroid> Though the symlinking really needs to be added, that way I can reach my synchronized files right from the desktop
[14:23] <LordMetroid> Also having the download status bar would be nice
[14:24] <jblount> LordMetroid: Agreed (on both). We'll be doing a "sync arbritary files" instead of symlinks, so you right click on some folder somewhere and say "sync with Ubuntu One" or similar, and it's added.
[14:25] <LordMetroid> Cool
[14:25] <jblount> LordMetroid: And we'll have some more progress / notification stuff very soon. It's already in trunk if you feel like running lp:ubuntuone-client (although I wouldn't suggest it, we have a stalwart QA team that need to look over the work there)
[14:25] <dobey> if you left-click on the applet now, it opens a menu and shows you the status
[14:26] <jblount> dobey: Nice, has that rolled to the beta ppa?
[14:26] <LordMetroid> their is no applet to click on
[14:26] <jblount> LordMetroid: You are on Jaunty or Karmic?
[14:26] <LordMetroid> Jaunty
[14:27] <dobey> jblount: oh, maybe not
[14:27] <jblount> LordMetroid: That may have something to do with it. dobey has been working hard on getting stuff done for Karmic, and I don't think we've rolled that stuff into the Jaunty ppa yet.
[14:28] <jblount> dobey: It's hard to keep my head straight, with 3 or 4 versions rolling around. I can't wait to use your notification stuff, it's going to be great.
[14:28] <LordMetroid> Do people update their system with every new release of Ubuntu... I do so I'll get the new and improved features pretty soon
[14:28] <dobey> more like before the release...
[14:29] <jblount> Yeah, we update a few months before, to help test and make the new release exponentially better.
[14:29] <LordMetroid> Hmm, maybe one should do that oneself
[14:30] <LordMetroid> Is their a netinstall for the alpha 4?
[14:31] <dobey> update-manager -d
[14:32] <LordMetroid> ok
[14:32] <LordMetroid> thanks
[14:53] <rodrigo_> statik: hmm, maybe
[14:54] <rodrigo_> statik: what happens if you remove the www from the url?
[14:56] <jblount> rodrigo_: It crashes
[14:56] <rodrigo_> ugh
[14:56] <jblount> I was trying to report the problem via ubuntu-bug, but it was having trouble too :)
[14:56] <rodrigo_> I was getting invalid certificates here, looking now
[15:00] <jblount> MEETING BEGINS
[15:00] <jblount> OH HAI HAKERz I HAZ MISSED U (a simple "me" will get you into the meeting, documenting DONE / TODO / BLOCKED will get you out)
[15:00] <CardinalFang> me
[15:00] <teknico> me
[15:00] <jblount> me
[15:00] <rodrigo_> me
[15:01] <jblount> statik, urbanape ?
[15:01] <dobey> me
[15:02] <statik> me
[15:02] <dobey> you forgot me!
[15:02] <dobey> where is the love
[15:02]  * jblount hugs dobey
[15:03] <jblount> CardinalFang: When you are ready
[15:03] <teknico> Blue Nile come to mind
[15:03] <CardinalFang> DONE: desktopcouch 0.3
[15:03] <CardinalFang> TODO: gwibber fixes.  desktopcouch polish / bugfixes.
[15:03] <CardinalFang> BLOCKED: None
[15:03] <CardinalFang> I, for one, would love to hear what teknico is up to.
[15:03] <teknico> DONE: analysis of the current web ui code and markup for contacts and phones
[15:03] <teknico> TODO: discussing the the contacts CRUD web ui with matt, working on the contacts CRUD web ui
[15:03] <teknico> BLOCKED: none
[15:03] <teknico> next: jblount
[15:03] <jblount> DONE: Being AFK for two days, trying to stay sane
[15:03] <jblount> TODO: FACE duty, so triage irc and searching for ways to communicate awesomness
[15:03] <jblount> BLOCKED: Nope (although I could use some breakfast)
[15:03] <jblount> rodriogo_: rocknroll
[15:03] <urbanape> me
[15:03] <rodrigo_> • DONE: changes polling in couchdb-glib
[15:03] <rodrigo_> • TODO: Add more tests in couchdb-glib test suite. Add social services accounts config to about-me. Talk to Ara about writing mago tests for evo-couchdb. Propose couchdb-glib/evo-couchdb for GNOME 2.29. Store UUIDs for postal addresses. Conflict resolver tool in pair tool. oAuth authentication and signing of all couchdb-glib requests. Look at becoming a MOTU (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers)
[15:03] <rodrigo_> • BLOCKED: none
[15:03] <rodrigo_> dobey: go
[15:03] <dobey> ☭ DONE: Hooked up bw throttling dbus calls to UI, 0.93.0 feature freeze released
[15:03] <dobey> ☭ TODO: Minor crisis, OAuth forking
[15:03] <dobey> ☭ BLCK: None.
[15:04] <dobey> statik: rock and roll
[15:04] <statik> DONE: desktopcouch 0.3, erlang MIR stuff
[15:04] <statik> TODO: figure out what to do since contacts sync missed feature freeze. help with ubuntuone-client crashes
[15:04] <statik> BLCK: nope
[15:04]  * jblount tags urbanape for statik
[15:04] <urbanape> DONE: Minor branch pushing for ubunet. Bindwood noodling.
[15:05] <urbanape> TODO: Bindwood
[15:05] <urbanape> BLOCK: None
[15:05] <urbanape> I think that's it?
[15:05] <jblount> MEETING ENDS
[15:05] <jblount> winner
[15:06] <arand> statik: jblount: I reported the apport duplicate->public issue as separate (419895), so (419895) stands on it's own: whatever should be done with U1's report attachments.
[15:06] <urbanape> so, my mac crashed yesterday evening. Was there a resolution to the pqm test problems we'd been seeing?
[15:06] <statik> arand, thank you very much!
[15:07] <arand> hang on, first one should be (419929).
[15:13] <dobey> well i guess the new server is deployed
[15:13] <james_w> dobey: hey, do you have an eta for the first pass?
[15:13] <dobey> james_w: of the oauth fork?
[15:13] <james_w> yeah
[15:14] <dobey> james_w: should have something working by EOD today
[15:14] <james_w> launchpadlib is currently broken in karmic due to the oauth issues, and there will be increasing clamour to fix it
[15:14] <james_w> ok
[15:14] <dobey> james_w: minor crisis with latest ubuntuone packages in karmic, and as soon as i get that fixed, it's on to oauth :)
[15:14] <james_w> I think I still need to fix launchpadlib in some manner
[15:15] <pfibiger> urbanape: yes, pqm is sorted, but it's in 'release critical' mode which means branches have to be approved by statik to be submitted, since there are critical bufxies that are en route.
[15:15] <rodrigo_> statik, jblount: http://www.ubuntuone.com redirects correctly to https://ubuntuone.com in FF for me
[15:16] <dobey> james_w: so i shouldn't update launchpadlib yet on my machine? :)
[15:16] <james_w> well, python-wadllib
[15:16] <rodrigo_> jblount: can you pastebin the crash from tomboy? (running tomboy --debug)
[15:16] <jblount> rodrigo_: yep, one moment
[15:20] <jblount> rodrigo_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/260356/
[15:20] <urbanape> pfibiger, k, no worries.
[15:20] <rodrigo_> jblount: indeed, it seems it doesn't get the redirect correctly
[15:21] <jblount> rodrigo_: I guess it happens when I click "connect to server", I get a nicer error message when I just click "save"
[15:32] <jblount> rodrigo_: FWIW When I put 'https://ubuntuone.com/notes/' it fails also.
[15:32] <rodrigo_> jblount: with the certificate error?
[15:34] <jblount> rodrigo_: Yeah, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/260360/
[15:35] <rodrigo_> statik: does that give you some clue if there's some certificate missing on the server??
[15:37] <rodrigo_> although it would have failed in FF also?
[15:37] <rodrigo_> or did I add an exception to FF some time ago? /me wonders
[15:55] <CardinalFang> statik, I made three bugs for the problems I need to work on with desktopcouch.  Bug#419969, Bug#419973, Bug#419975.
[15:56]  * CardinalFang wonders where the bot went.
[15:56] <jblount> Bug #419969
[15:56]  * jblount slaps the picky bot
[15:57] <CardinalFang> Bug #419973, Bug #419975.
[15:59] <statik> rodrigo_, sorry haven't had a chance to look
[15:59] <statik> CardinalFang, thanks!
[16:17] <rodrigo_> jblount: can you file a bug with that tomboy's output pastebin and assing it to me?
[16:18] <jblount> rodrigo_: Yes, but I'm going to assign it to you instead, if that's ok :)
[16:18] <rodrigo_> yes, it's ok :D
[16:18] <jblount> rodrigo_: I should just file it on tomboy?
[16:19] <rodrigo_> jblount: yes, on the source package project, since it's specific to our package
[16:24] <jblount> rodrigo_: Bug #419992
[16:25] <rodrigo_> jblount: thanks
[16:31] <CardinalFang> aquarius, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/260399/
[16:31] <aquarius> hrm. it doesn't trap that error.
[16:31] <aquarius> it shoudl do, though :)
[16:32] <aquarius> how do you not have a keyring daemon? is this in pbuilder or a CLI-only server or something?
[16:33] <CardinalFang> aquarius, It's a SSH-tunneled X session.
[16:33] <aquarius> phaiyle.
[16:33] <CardinalFang> $ ssh host gwibber
[16:33] <aquarius> I don't know how to fix that, since you need to tunnel d-bus requests back to the machine you're on as well as X requests.
[17:03] <LordMetroid> Syncdaemon keeps crashing on my karmic alpha4... Is this a known?
[17:07] <rmcbride> LordMetroid: Yes. We're working on a fix now
[17:07] <LordMetroid> Cool
[17:10]  * jdo is using the latest client from trunk and it's working great
[17:10] <jblount> jdo: I tried to just run the client from trunk, but was still getting weirdness last night. Are there updates?
[17:10] <jdo> jblount, yes
[17:10]  * jblount bzr pulls
[17:10] <jdo> jblount, ooh wait
[17:11] <jdo> jblount, I'm using what's on its way to trunk
[17:11] <jdo> :)
[17:11] <jdo> freshmeat
[17:11] <jblount> heh
[17:12] <jdo> the new preference dialog is nice too
[17:13] <jblount> Yeah, that'll be super good.
[17:14] <jblount> rmcbride: Forgive me for losing track of this, but did we ever sort out the slow uploading stuff? I remember you working on some testing stuff, but have no idea where that went.
[17:33] <rmcbride> jblount: never got all the data on that. moving target and all
[17:34] <jblount> rmcbride: Sure, I kind of figured. Thanks for the update.
[17:35] <rmcbride> jblount: getting metrics on that is something I'm working towards. My tests for that have been broken by recent changes and I need to fix them once we have the client working again
[17:36] <VK7HSE> just rebuilt my PC and have just read all the mail regarding the current issue! keep up the great work statik, rmcbride :D
[17:37] <statik> VK7HSE, thanks for the encouragement :) we're just testing a fix, should have something published soon
[17:38] <VK7HSE> well I'm off to bed! getting close to 3am (again!) ;)
[17:38] <VK7HSE> cya
[18:19] <thisfred>  /join ##couch-oauth
[18:19] <thisfred> oops
[18:32] <haggisbasheruk> hi guys i just installed ubuntu1
[18:32] <jblount> haggisbasheruk: Neat!
[18:33] <haggisbasheruk> https://updown.ubuntuone.com/e0de3b3b-a7a4-478a-8103-304f4f9b5b4a  test me
[18:33] <haggisbasheruk> just an html file
[18:33] <jblount> haggisbasheruk: Those links only work when the other person has access to the file through a share.
[18:33] <jblount> haggisbasheruk: So it will work for you, and for anyone that you have shared the folder that file is contained in.
[18:34] <haggisbasheruk> okay , seems that i don't know these details , how do i do that then ?
[18:36] <jblount> haggisbasheruk: Select a folder inside ~/Ubuntu One/ that you want to share, right click on it in Nautilus and select "Share with Ubuntu One" or similar. Enter the persons email to share to, the click ok.
[18:38] <haggisbasheruk> i have this in the root of ~/Ubuntu One/  , i use pcman and have no right click , on tablet pc and the email thing , whats that all about ?
[18:40] <jblount> haggisbasheruk: If you can't right click to get a contextual menu, one option is to use the website. Go to https://ubuntuone.com/files/ and you can select a folder on the left, the select "sharing" to enter in a persons email to share that folder with them.
[18:40] <jblount> haggisbasheruk: As far as "the email thing , whats that all about ?"; I'm not sure I understand you.
[18:41] <haggisbasheruk> why no share without the email and just use the link ?
[18:43] <jblount> haggisbasheruk: We are still working out how best to do public links, one signifigant factor is the bandwidth cost.
[18:44] <haggisbasheruk> ohh i understand that
[18:45] <haggisbasheruk> and i guess the email thing is actually a good security measure
[18:45] <jblount> haggisbasheruk: :)
[18:47] <haggisbasheruk> sorry i was expextiog a dropbox type of thing lol
[18:47] <jblount> haggisbasheruk: We do have some similar features, a lot of people assume that we're identical.
[18:47] <mrooney|w> Hello, I pointed this out yesterday but no one seemed to be around. At https://ubuntuone.com/support/installation/ under Step 2 it says "If you see "Could not find package 'ubuntuone-client-gnome'.", just click the install button a  second time. This is a known issue" although that bug is marked Fix Released for Jaunty and Karmic
[18:48] <mrooney|w> Should that warning perhaps be removed, so it isn't talking about bugs it doesn't have?
[18:48] <jblount> mrooney|w: Hi! I saw that in the traceback, and it should absolutely be removed. Do you have a free moment to file a bug regarding that?
[18:48] <jblount> mrooney|w: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubunet would be the appropriate project.
[18:48] <mrooney|w> Sure!
[18:49] <jblount> mrooney|w: Thanks very much, I appreciate having lots of people to help keep the attention to detail high in our project.
[18:52] <mrooney|w> jblount: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubunet/+bug/420081
[18:53] <jblount> mrooney|w: Thanks very much, I'll triage it a bit further and try to get a update rolled out quickly.
[18:53] <mrooney|w> thanks, no problem!
[18:59] <haggisbasheruk> in galeon the share thing doesn't popup lol , firefox works though
[19:01] <haggisbasheruk> does the person i want to share with have to have ubuntuone client installed also ?
[19:04] <haggisbasheruk> so does the person you wan to share a file with get a link via email i guess
[19:05] <jblount> haggisbasheruk: Yeah, they get a link to "accept the share" so they need to have a Ubuntu One account (they'll get when through the process) but they don't need to install the software locally for the links to work.
[19:06] <haggisbasheruk> so i take it this will become part of ubuntu , ie installed and ready to go even from live cd , once of course it passes beta
[19:08] <jblount> haggisbasheruk: Yep, it's already in Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic) :)
[19:08] <haggisbasheruk> ohh , i never even notice it in kubuntu netbook edition , would be really handy on netbooks
[19:10] <haggisbasheruk> i will stick this in kuki linux when its stable also
[19:11] <haggisbasheruk> unless you want loads of testers , i'll throw it into the next release also :P
[19:11] <haggisbasheruk> this weekend
[19:14] <jblount> haggisbasheruk: Sounds great :)
[19:15] <haggisbasheruk> expect your servers to get a battering at the weekend the :P
[19:16] <haggisbasheruk> then*
[19:23] <haggisbasheruk> some1 send me a file so i can see the recieving side , haggis at kuki.me
[19:25] <haggisbasheruk> ohh , i guess it has to be with my launchpad id ,oops hagisbasheruk at msn.com
[19:26] <jblount> haggisbasheruk: It shouldn't matter, when you click the link in your email, the web browser will use your LP cookies and ask you if you want to use your LP identity.
[19:26] <haggisbasheruk> ahh cool
[19:27] <haggisbasheruk> i have kuki guys testing it now also :)
[19:31] <haggisbasheruk> ahh , this is really quite good jblount :)
[19:31] <jblount> :)
[19:32]  * haggisbasheruk is excited and making things
[19:36] <haggisbasheruk> yup , both mails work jblount :)
[19:36] <jblount> haggisbasheruk: This is good news.
[19:38] <haggisbasheruk> this will be great to sync /home/$USER/Documents on multiple devices
[19:40] <jblount> haggisbasheruk: One of my favorite uses is to keep my desktop background files sync'd, I always lost them before I had Ubuntu One around.
[19:41] <haggisbasheruk> :) it is really good :)
[19:44] <haggisbasheruk> awe , /home/haggisbasheruk/Ubuntu One/My Files/Shared With Me   is empty
[19:45] <jblount> haggisbasheruk: You may have to stop and restart the client software to sync down to your desktop. We are not yet sending notices from the server down to the client.
[19:46] <haggisbasheruk> ahh ,okay , testing upload to a shared folder now
[19:48] <haggisbasheruk> uploaded a file into your folder
[19:50] <jblount> haggisbasheruk: Those are very interesting installation notes.
[19:51] <haggisbasheruk> :) just started to write those up tonight  , feel free to add and share back
[19:52] <haggisbasheruk> i got side tracked so never finished the remastersys part lol
[19:54] <statik> rodrigo_, still around? can you update this blueprint? i think things are much farther along than 14% that the blueprint shows https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-karmic-evolution-couchdb
[20:10] <haggisbasheruk> ubuntuone-client-applet icon looks nice :)
[20:10] <dobey> thanks
[21:44] <LordMetroid> Does the current trunk works or has it yet to be uploaded?
[21:44] <LordMetroid> Also how do I install from the trunk?
[21:44] <statik> you shouldn't install from trunk
[21:45] <statik> the version in karmic has an annoying crash bug, a fix will be uploaded soon
[21:46] <LordMetroid> Will the update manager get the fix by itself even on alpha?
[21:46] <LordMetroid> I've never been running alphas before
[21:48] <greg-g> LordMetroid: yes, if you are running Karmic you will get all updates to Karmic not matter when you installed it.
[21:48] <LordMetroid> ok
[21:48] <LordMetroid> So shall i apt-get ubuntuone-client-gnome again even though it crashes
[21:48] <greg-g> so you just roll with the updates and then on Karmic release day you are already running the released version :)
[21:49] <greg-g> just keep it installed and when the update is ready Update Manager will tell you.
[21:49] <LordMetroid> Hmm, I think I'll just reinstall it on release day to be sure I get everything nice and dandy
[21:50] <statik> greg-g, have you seen desktopcouch yet?
[21:51] <greg-g> statik: seen it? I haven't really taken a close look at it yet but saw 0.3 was released yesterday :)
[21:53] <statik> greg-g, i'm excited about the possibilities for it. there is a pairing tool in desktopcouch-tools, you can do laptop-laptop replication of couch databases
[21:53] <statik> even if you don't have an ubuntuone account
[21:54] <greg-g> oooo, neat, I like.
[21:54] <statik> i've got a little tiny hack script that stores launchpad bugs from the API into couch
[21:54] <statik> since the API is all json documents under the covers anyway
[21:54] <greg-g> so you can see your bugs from anywhere, never leave home without 'em, nice.
[21:55] <statik> yeah, and possibly even update status etc and push the updates back to launchpad
[21:55] <statik> when you get back online
[21:56] <kenvandine> desktopcouch rocks!
[21:56] <greg-g> now _that_ would be neat. Like offlineimap but with bugs (or anything that has an API)
[21:56] <statik> the people working on prophet have been making some noise yet, i think they are further along but couchdb feels a bit more general purpose/robust
[21:56] <statik> exactly
[21:56] <statik> we're going to put contacts data in there too
[22:10]  * dobey has been talking about similar things for ages
[22:10] <dobey> (because e-mail and web are a pain in the ass)
[22:19]  * thekorn googles for desktopcouch
[22:23] <thekorn> wow, cool


[08:25] <bittin> https://nikkasystems.com/2023/11/17/podd-224-doxing-me-doxing-you/ watching todays Bli Säker Podden before i need to head to work and update Linux Mint and reinstall Windows 10