[00:24] <robotdevil> How do I use a blutooth usb stick to be an audio gateway to a blutooth speaker?
[00:45] <robotdevil> yeah it works
[00:49] <c0mp> coolaid
[00:50] <c0mp> question uk united access account !
[00:50] <c0mp> prox ukpr47*ik = w!n hemc
[00:50] <c0mp> uklkewq 44 +cxz
[00:50]  * c0mp wq uop ^
[00:51] <c0mp> [rain fire water earth wind] *element*
[00:51] <c0mp> ukgtt47.phone
[00:58] <c0mp> NumericSPA960;\powerdevice
[00:58] <c0mp> system administator
[00:58] <c0mp> op
[00:58] <c0mp> uk aol www.NumericSPA960.system
[02:33]  * ybit waves hi
[03:24]  * ybit pokes gorgonizer
[03:34] <xisor> is there a wubi specific support channel?
[04:26] <ignacio> hola
[04:26] <ignacio> necesito ayuda urgente porfvaor
[04:26] <ignacio> como paro los servidores X en kde
[04:26] <ignacio> necesito instalar el drievr nvidia
[05:09] <15SABUFYI> How can I reorder entries in the Lancelot menu?
[05:21] <night_> hi
[05:22] <night_> i can't use default input bar,how can i to do to resolved it
[05:22] <night_> 0 0
[05:22] <night_> anyone here??
[05:23] <night_> ghost......
[05:24] <night_> is there alive guy
[05:24] <night_> ok, i got it,kubuntu is dieing...
[05:30] <L3top> well... its 124 in the morning here night_... but I am alive.
[05:32] <j2gression> df
[05:47] <night_> ok
[05:47] <night_> 0 0
[06:54] <robotdevil> how to make a program only show on one screen instead of across both (twinview)
[07:10] <robotdevil> Is there some way to reenable the back button in kde4 application launcher instead of having to select the text at the top right
[07:10] <robotdevil> I believe it was changed in kde 4.6 or 4.7 and I really dont like the new way
[07:10] <robotdevil> I believe it was called kicker or something
[07:18] <seemawn> hi
[07:18] <KETCHUP_BOTTLE> hello
[07:19] <seemawn> on nearly every startup, virtuoso-t or kmix (only these programs) quit with a segfault
[08:21] <leopard> why google chrome ignor my proxy settings?
[11:27] <ardian> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-active/releases/12.04/ the files are missing here
[12:04] <ICWeiner> I need some help changing from kubuntu to xubuntu because I can't log into kubuntu.
[12:05] <ICWeiner> I'm in xubuntu on my flash drive, but I can't find the drive I have kubuntu on.
[12:15] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[12:17] <AngelForget> hello people
[12:22] <Guest57555> hi all
[12:23] <Guest57555> i need help with ubintu-tweak, i have selected all the applications i want to install and i click applied and its been 2 hours now no sign of it doing anything. it is just stuck
[12:27] <lelamal> Guest57555: are you on ubuntu?
[12:28] <Guest57555> yes
[12:29] <Guest57555> i am using a distro that runs on ubuntu lucid
[12:29] <Guest57555> not ubuntu itself
[12:29] <Guest57555> had been tweaked
[12:29] <lelamal> then you should ask in #ubuntu. this is the kubuntu support channel
[12:33] <anqxyr> what could I use to join several ext4 partitions, preferably without loosing the data?
[12:35] <lelamal> anqxyr: try kde partition manager, or gparted.
[12:35] <Guest57555> ok, cani get a pointer, whats tha channel hash? #ubuntu?
[12:35] <anqxyr> I don't think kde pm can do that
[12:36] <anqxyr> it can only delete or create partitions
[12:36]  * anqxyr goes to install and try gparted
[12:37] <lelamal> Guest57555: type /join #ubuntu and press enter
[12:37] <Guest57555> thank you lelamal
[12:37] <lelamal> Guest57555: np
[12:53] <anqxyr> huh, apparently it's impossible to merge partitions in linux
[12:53] <anqxyr> only to delete one and resize another to take all space
[12:53] <anqxyr> pity :(
[13:03] <mcloy> my laptop battery shows 100% charged on a/c power but when i remove the a/c . i t says 75% and discharging. what can be wrong?
[15:00] <renosis> does kubuntu 12.04 come with a remote desktop vnc package?
[18:22] <mohamad> plz
[18:22] <mohamad> help me
[18:29] <mysteriousdarren> mohamad: explain your problem clearly and we will help.
[18:29] <Joit> hes gone anyway
[18:47] <Scunizi> Hi all.. How do I get the kopete system tray icon to appear.. I was in preferences and ticked the option and applied but ... nothing.
[18:51] <Khmerog> hii
[18:51] <Khmerog> i love Kubuntu or do i love KDE/Plasma Desktop
[18:51] <Khmerog> is Plasma Desktop KDE or are they 2 seperate things?
[19:05] <Tm_T> Khmerog: Plasma Desktop is KDE:s desktop
[19:05] <Tm_T> so, KDE is the broad term for things that includes plasma desktop
[19:12] <Khmerog> oic
[19:12] <Khmerog> so all linux OS that uses KDE (Linux Mint KDE) will have the plasma desktop?
[19:16] <asfyxia> Khmerog: yes, that's correct
[19:17] <Layke> plasma desktop nukes my memory. :(
[19:17] <Layke> I prefer it to unity though, so have to live with it being slower.
[19:20] <BluesKaj> Layke, which graphics card and are desktop effects enabled?
[19:21] <Layke> BluesKaj,  Not sure what my card is. I bought it a year ago.. really bad memeory.. but I think it's a geforce 680. It was like 280 gbp.
[19:22] <Layke> I don't believe I have desktop effects enable no. I tried to disable everything. How would I know if the desktop effects are on?
[19:23] <BluesKaj> Layke, desktop effects in kmenu>computer>system settings
[19:24] <Layke> Yep. It was enabled thanks. I was unsetting them in ccsm..
[19:24] <Layke> Which I guess isn't even used.
[19:29] <BluesKaj> Layke, for graphics info , run lay have you installed the recommended nvidia driver in kmenu>apps>system>additional drivers , if not, that could explain the memory probs
[19:29] <BluesKaj> oops
[19:30] <Layke> run lay?
[19:30] <BluesKaj> for graphics info run glxinfo | grep OpenGL
[19:31] <BluesKaj> Layke , ignore run lay :)
[19:31] <Layke> Nice! Thanks. GeForce GTX 480/PCI/SSE2 is my card.
[19:31] <Layke> Totally wrong on the 680 guess :P
[19:32] <Layke> I ran "additional drivers". It is saying however, that I do not have permission to run the "recommended version", to activate those drivers.
[19:33] <Layke> It's not asking me for a password.
[19:34] <BluesKaj> odd
[19:34] <Layke> This works.. sudo jockey-kde
[19:34] <Layke> Googled it..
[19:35] <BluesKaj> right , nice to see users with some initiative , Layke ...we get so many needy types here
[19:35] <Layke> THe other annoyance I find, but this could be outside of my control, is that if I run Spotify, it uses 2GB of RAM. Netbeans 1GB.. etc.
[19:36] <Layke> I only have 4GB, but I find I hit SWAP so quickly
[19:36] <Layke> Probably more a #ubuntu issue though
[19:37] <BluesKaj> Layke, do you nepomuk  Desltop Search enabled in system settings ?
[19:37] <BluesKaj> have
[19:37] <Layke> I'd never heard o fthat before until I just restarted, and it said that nepomuk failed to start...
[19:37] <Layke> I got one of the "growl" style error notices.
[19:39] <BluesKaj> also akonadi could be using up resources as well , type in to the search in the kmenu
[19:40] <Layke> So should I stop Nepomuk Semantic desktop also?
[19:40] <BluesKaj> yes Layke if you don't need it
[19:42] <Layke> Also helpful > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1889034
[19:48] <BluesKaj> brb , gotta check my test drive
[20:09] <strongman> df
[20:09] <strongman> dddddddddddddd
[20:14] <mr0wl> if i wanted to set the correct DPI on Kubuntu 12.04 would I use xrandr or generate an xorg.conf ?
[20:15] <Tm_T> mr0wl: xrandr I think
[20:17] <mr0wl> Tm_T: so does it get executed after X?
[20:17] <ardy> hello, I am trying to build kdbg from the git repo and I was wondering where 'kde' is installed
[20:18] <mr0wl> or KDM?
[20:18] <ardy> ie, the build scripts provided with it, look in /opt/kde4
[20:30] <mr0wl> where does Kubuntu store the .xprofile?
[20:30] <ikonia> .xprofile,
[20:30] <ikonia> never heard of that
[20:30] <mr0wl> ikonia: to run commands at the start of X session?
[20:30] <ikonia> never heard it called .xprofile
[20:31] <Tm_T> ardy: kde is installed on /usr on Kubuntu, but if you build from source, default is /usr/local
[20:31] <mr0wl> ikonia: KDM xsession?
[20:31] <ardy> thanks Tm_T
[20:31] <ikonia> mr0wl: never heard of .xprofile sorry
[20:32] <qbit> it is .xsession in a usr's home dir
[20:32] <ikonia> ahhhh
[20:32] <ikonia> .xsession, thank you
[20:32] <ikonia> didn't click
[20:33] <qbit> at least that is what I believe you are looking for
[20:35] <mr0wl> alright thanks
[20:54] <ardy> gpg-agent.conf... how is gpg-agent setup these days?
[20:55] <ardy> err.. sorry it clipped the rest of my message
[20:55] <ardy> Kleopatra is reporting that it cannot connect to the Gpg-Agent
[20:55] <ardy> I looked in ~/.gnupg/and saw many files but not gpg-agent.conf... how is the gpg-agent setup these days
[20:55] <ardy> ?
[21:10] <yofel> ardy: add 'use-agent' to your ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf
[21:10] <yofel> and restart your session
[21:11] <ardy> yofel, there is no file called gpg.conf in ~/.gnupg/
[21:11] <yofel> create it then
[21:11] <ardy> ok and only have that line in it
[21:13] <ardy> ok yofel restarting session
[21:15] <ardy> yofel, thank you, it worked! :)
[21:15] <yofel> :)
[22:35] <tft101> hey i was looking for an older distro of 32-bit kubuntu as i recently purchased a dell latitude d600 and wanted to put this on it but the newer versions wont run and i got to a 9.10 but once i clicked to download took me to 12
[22:37] <tft101> does anyone know a still active link? thanks in advance
[22:54] <asfyxia> tft101: Kubuntu 9.10 is dead and buried. It's no longer supported, so you'd better not use it.
[22:56] <tft101> well i think lubuntu may work from what i was reading a second ago i have some old 7.10's but they are only 64 and need the 32 my old laptop i had before this one ran 7.10 still no problems
[22:59] <asfyxia> tft101; 7.10 is even older, and also not supported anymore. Lubuntu is light, but has also light software. What are the specifications of your machine, GHz of the processor, RAM?
[22:59] <tft101> its a pentium m 1.6 ghz
[23:00] <tft101> 1 gig ram
[23:01] <tft101> 40gig hard drive...thought it would work good for programming microcontrollers since it has a native serial and parrallel port
[23:01] <qbit> asfyxia: not strictly an answer to ubuntu/kubuntu  but Mepis  8  is still avaliable and might work although it's KDE 3
[23:01] <qbit> asfyxia: and there is a Mepis 8.5 wich is KDE 4 based but I haven't ever tried that
[23:02] <asfyxia> pentium m? Well, I have a Eee netbook with 1.6 Ghz processor and 1 Gig RAM, and I run 32-bits Kubuntu 12.04 on it. I have no experience with Mapis, I'm afraid. What is exactly not working for you?
[23:03] <tft101> well it says something isnt supported by the processor so let me rerun here a second and see
[23:03] <qbit> oops - I meant to tft101
[23:07] <qbit> http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[23:07] <tft101> the error: This kernel requires the following featues not present on the CPU: pae   Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU
[23:10] <asfyxia> You can load a pae-kernel on your distro, though this sounds a littlebit odd
[23:10] <qbit> that PAE kernel thing is a fairly recent development and I don't remember exactly when they made it the only one
[23:10] <qbit> but a release or two back that shouldn't be the case
[23:11] <tft101> ok i may try a prior one i see from the releases page and see if that remedies things thanks for the link and help
[23:12] <qbit> I would try in reverse order 11.10, then 11.04, etc....
[23:17] <tft101> will do thanks again
[23:19] <asfyxia> Good luck tft101, and if something crashes up, just show yourself and we'll make something up ;-)
[23:20] <qbit> tft101: I think starting with 12.04 release the 32 bit kernel is the PAE one which will not work on your CPU, and I think that began with 12.04 unless I'm mistaken - I've been all 64 bit for a long time now


[16:42] <ztron> Looks like Secure Boot is broken in Ubuntu Studio 19.10.  Was working ideally in 19.04.  Would be good to function again for version 20 release.
[16:48] <Eickmeyer[m]> He left before I could tell him it's on his end.


[02:34]  * enyc meows
[03:05]  * wyoung throws catnip at enyc
[03:37] <MrMobius> can I prevent logging into ubuntu server over ssh with only a password and require a key?
[03:49] <signofzeta> Yes.  Set "PasswordAuthentication no" in the server's sshd_config file.  Be sure to enroll a key first!
[03:49] <signofzeta> (Assuming you don't have physical access.)
[03:50] <jo-erlend> I can't for the life of me figure out how to write a post to Ubuntu Discourse. Some help? :)
[03:50] <MrMobius> thanks!
[03:51] <signofzeta> Also, make sure "PubKeyAuthentication yes" is set.  It might be the default.  For more good ideas, go find Mozilla's SSH configuration page.
[04:06] <dsdeiz> hi all, how do i set Escape with alt+backtick? i have this on my xkb     key <ESC>  {	[     grave,	asciitilde	]	};
[04:07] <dsdeiz> it works, but not for alt+`
[04:12] <MrMobius> signofzeta, that didnt do it. i can stil log in over ssh with a password
[04:14] <MrMobius> unless i need to restart the server...
[04:16] <signofzeta> Yes, @MrMobius, you do.
[04:16] <signofzeta> Try that.
[04:16] <signofzeta> I also have "AuthenticationMethods publickey" in my sshd_configs.  Restart sshd and see if it works before you add that.
[04:17] <MrMobius> works
[04:17] <MrMobius> how risky is it to open an ssh port to the outside world on my home router for myself after doing this?
[04:18] <signofzeta> Fairly safe.  I usually disable SSH over IPv4 (AddressFamily inet6) to exclude me from automated scans, but that really doesn't matter one bit.
[04:19] <signofzeta> As long as you use something secure -- like SSH keys, FIDO2 keys, or Kerberos -- you have nothing to worry about if passwords are disabled.
[04:20] <oerheks> fail2ban could help
[04:20] <signofzeta> ^ forgot about that!
[04:25] <signofzeta> Some more good settings from Mozilla InfoSec:  https://infosec.mozilla.org/guidelines/openssh
[05:23] <node1> hello
[05:24] <node1> It looks my ubuntu does not detect my third monitor
[05:34] <wyoung> Hihihi
[05:47] <node1> Hello does anyone know how to connect two external monitors in Ubuntu?
[05:47] <node1> only second monitor get connected, but not the third one
[06:47] <itu>   hi
[06:50] <itu> are the  parameters/options  of  /usr/bin/crontab result of compilation?
[07:14] <tmm88> heyho
[07:17] <ducasse> morning folks
[07:33] <MadLamb> I'm having an issue that when connected to a external screen with usb-c, whenever I open the settings app or any other app that tries to detect the resolution, the screen turns off for a few seconds. What could it be?
[07:34] <ducasse> that sounds like a driver issue
[07:34] <ducasse> which gpu is this?
[07:36] <jo-erlend> MadLamb: is it a TV?
[07:36] <MadLamb> ducasse, intel uhd g. 620 (KBL GT2)
[07:36] <MadLamb> jo-erlend, no its a samsung 28" monitor
[07:37] <node1> Hello, I'm facing an issue while connecting with two external monitors with my Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS  Linux O 5.8.0-53-generic #60~20.04.1-Ubuntu
[07:40] <MadLamb> ducasse, issue also happens if I type xrandr on the command line
[07:42] <node1> https://ibb.co/BgZDzzb  https://ibb.co/Df6VZ82  https://ibb.co/4TG78Jr
[07:43] <node1> Does anyone know what it required to  link  two external monitor with ubuntu ?
[07:52] <jo-erlend> node1: There is an option for that in Displays in the system settings. Have you tried that?
[07:52] <MadLamb> jo-erlend, could be related to gdm-x-session. I have bunch of logs for a startupnotificationmonitor.cpp monitor_event_func startup notification initiated/completed
[07:53] <node1> yes " Setting > Displays"
[07:55] <node1> But still unable to start two  external monitors parallel
[07:57] <node1> jo-erlend, Please find the details here for system settings https://ibb.co/BgZDzzb
[07:58] <jo-erlend> node1: Click on single display if you want the displays to act as one big display or mirror if you want both to display the same screen.
[07:58] <jo-erlend> node1: sorry. Don't pay any attention to me. I'm really tired right now. :)
[07:58] <jo-erlend> my head is spinning.
[07:59] <node1> lol
[07:59] <node1> I want to make these two external monitor to act as single monitor.
[07:59] <jo-erlend> (The night before the constitution day is heavy stuff here in Norway:))
[08:00] <node1> Or if it possible to make 3 head.
[08:00] <node1> oh
[08:01] <jo-erlend> … and it's 10AM :)
[08:01] <node1> Like my laptop monitor should act as primary screen and other two screen act as second and third screen
[08:01] <jo-erlend> node1: looks to me like you've got it right? What's not working?
[08:01] <node1> only one monitor works at a time. I can not make it on two external monitor
[08:02] <jo-erlend> node1: Oh, I see. I have no idea. Sorry.
[08:02] <node1> Either this two external monitor should become one or become 2nd and 3rd monitor
[08:03] <node1> okay no problem thank you
[08:04] <jo-erlend> node1: You could try Ubuntu Unity live and see if that works. I remember there was a lot of work on multi-monitor on Unity back in the days.
[08:04] <jo-erlend> I mean, just to confirm that it works on a lower level.
[08:04] <node1> sure.
[08:04] <ducasse> node1: have you tried activating them with something like arandr?
[08:04] <jo-erlend> node1: It would've been ten years ago. I just can't remember how I did it. :)
[08:05] <jo-erlend> And obviously, that wasn't usb-c :)
[08:06] <node1> I don't know what's  and how to activate arandr
[08:06] <ducasse> node1: 'sudo apt install arandr'
[08:07] <ducasse> then just run it
[08:07] <node1> See i have too many task need to perform so i need this two external screen attached with my laptop. I would be glad if someone help me to configure this two external monitor with my laptop
[08:08] <arseru_> Hi! Is anyone here having thermal problems with ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS in a Lenovo Thinkpad L13 ?
[08:09] <node1> ducasse, How to run it? I have installed it
[08:09] <TheBigK> arseru_: im not an expert on lts... but what i found was that the default cpu governor is making the cpu much warmer on idler than it needs to be
[08:09] <jo-erlend> node1: try arandr.
[08:09] <jo-erlend> node: type arandr on the terminal
[08:09] <ducasse> node1: 'arandr' in a terminal
[08:09] <TheBigK> arseru_: i use cpu-freq-utils to change the governor at boot times
[08:10] <node1> Well i can see one  HDMI Signal not others
[08:10] <TheBigK> arseru_: that made my cpu fans dont blow all the time when working. performance is still good enough for me... but i dont need much performance anyways :)
[08:10] <ducasse> node1: then you probably have a driver issue
[08:10] <ducasse> or bad cable
[08:11] <jo-erlend> node1: Have you used both monitors at the same time with that PC before?
[08:11] <node1> never it's Lenevo Ideapad 110
[08:11] <node1> https://ibb.co/3M76MQz
[08:11] <jo-erlend> USB-C is more than a little weird. Not every port supports the same features.
[08:12] <ducasse> node1: can you give me the output of 'xrandr -q | pastebinit'?
[08:12] <node1> Lenevo products are no visionary, they make product for selling and making money
[08:12] <jo-erlend> node1: if you swap the ports, does the opposite screens work then?
[08:13] <node1> yes it works when i click on  HDMI bi directional button it swap the screen
[08:14] <node1> https://pastebin.com/raw/GJkVf79Q
[08:14] <jo-erlend> node1: No I meant the cables. I'm wondering if both your USB-C ports supports displays.
[08:15] <arseru_> TheBigK: I use cpupower-gui to switch governor settings from 'Powersave' to 'Performance', but I'm guessing that's not what you are talking about?
[08:15] <ducasse> yeah, the driver can only see one extra output, and only at 1366x768
[08:15] <ducasse> node1: are they full hd screens?
[08:15] <node1> I am using HDMI port there is no USB-c port i'm using for connecting monitor.
[08:16] <jo-erlend> ducasse: I'm not sure we have established that it's the drivers. Could be the USB ports, no?
[08:16] <TheBigK> arseru_: thats what im talking about. if u use performance ur heat consumption will go up and that might cause throttle...
[08:16] <ducasse> jo-erlend: he claims to be using hdmi
[08:16] <jo-erlend> node1: oh. So you have two HDMI outputs?
[08:16] <TheBigK> arseru_: modern laptops these days are sadly designed to thermal throttle
[08:16] <node1> Yes both of the monitor are Lenevo HD monitors
[08:16] <ducasse> node1: which gpu is this?
[08:17] <node1> See this setup https://ibb.co/Df6VZ82
[08:17] <TheBigK> arseru_: i dont think thats a problem limited to ur ubuntu installation. thats hardware design
[08:17] <node1> Maybe it's switch not splitter
[08:17] <jo-erlend> node1: oh, I'm sorry for my confusion. It was MadLamb who talked about USB-C :)
[08:17] <jo-erlend> I'll go hide now.
[08:17] <node1> lol
[08:18] <node1> Maybe i have purchase wrong product or what?
[08:18] <ducasse> i think that just switches, node1
[08:18] <node1> lspci | grep VGA
[08:18] <node1> 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Stoney [Radeon R2/R3/R4/R5 Graphics] (rev c6)
[08:19] <node1> yes i need splitter to work with these two external monitor
[08:19] <TheBigK> im eager to see what the future gives us in terms of laptops. It seems like the migration towards ARM in notebooks kinda started kicking of with Apples M1 Chip and in the Microsoft Surface Laptop. Thats going to be also good since linux is running great on ARM
[08:19] <ducasse> node1: has your laptop got usb-c?
[08:19] <node1> But here one question, Does it required GPU to make two external monitor screen attached with Ubuntu ?
[08:19] <TheBigK> the only thing im rly worried about is in terms of GPU... if apple is again the example... then we gonna have a hard time... xD
[08:19] <Antoine_> Hello, does anyone use keepassxc on ubuntu 21.04? I can't get the autotype windows to pop up when I do the keyboard shortctut I defined
[08:20] <node1> How to check and verify? i have laptop with USB-C
[08:20] <Antoine_> window*
[08:20] <ducasse> node1: you'll either look at the ports or check the specs, which model is it?
[08:20] <Liowenex> USB C is loke
[08:20] <Liowenex> Like
[08:20] <Liowenex> Old
[08:21] <arseru_> TheBigK: oh, so I should never use Performance then, thanks for the tip XD
[08:21] <jo-erlend> node1: I looked at your picture: https://ibb.co/Df6VZ82 <-- That looks like a switch to me, that would allow you to choose one display to use at a time, not to use both at the same time.
[08:22] <arseru_> TheBigK: you said 'i use cpu-freq-utils to change the governor at boot times'. Change how exactly?
[08:22] <node1> Yes, that's what i'm wondering also, actually i have purchase this product from amazon and they claim it works as switch and splitter both
[08:22] <node1> https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B08HWZYWNQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[08:23] <jo-erlend> node1: I see, but it would still only give you a copy. So you could use two monitors with the same image. You wouldn't expand your work area.
[08:24] <ducasse> node1: it says "Two Monitors Cannot Display Simultaneously"
[08:24] <jo-erlend> ducasse: right. That makes sense.
[08:25] <node1> ducasse, who says?
[08:25] <jo-erlend> node1: Amazon does.
[08:25] <jo-erlend> node1: BIDIRECTIONAL HDMI SWITCH: 3 Ports, you could connect two HDMI sources to one HDMI display, or connect one HDMI source to toggle between two displays (only one monitor will display at a time).
[08:26] <MadLamb> jo-erlend, im completely lost
[08:26] <node1> humm.. so what's the best device or splitter i need for ubuntu for making two external monitor
[08:27] <ducasse> node1: if you want two additional screens your best bet is usb-c
[08:27] <ducasse> if your laptop supports it
[08:27] <node1> ok, from where to purchase?
[08:28] <node1> or else ?
[08:28] <jo-erlend> node1: search for "usb-c to hdmi" There's lots of them.
[08:28] <ducasse> or displayport, so you can chain them
[08:29] <TheBigK> arseru_: u create under /etc/default/cpufrequtils
[08:29] <TheBigK> a file
[08:29] <TheBigK> and for me configued this: GOVERNOR="powersave"
[08:32] <MadLamb> I'm having an issue that when connected to a external screen with usb-c, whenever I open the settings app or any other app that tries to detect the resolution, the screen turns off for a few seconds. What could it be?
[08:33] <ducasse> node1: if you give us the model number we can check if it supports usb-c
[08:34] <arseru_> TheBigK: thanks, but cpupower-gui is already showing me that Powersave is the default for mine, so that part seems to be OK :)
[08:34] <arseru_> I will try to find a gui sensor that shows me the cpu temp all the time, so I can visually monitor when that happens
[08:34] <TheBigK> arseru_: u still have throttle problems?
[08:35] <TheBigK> sensors in bash will tell u temps
[08:35] <arseru_> TheBigK: yes, only on videocalls
[08:35] <TheBigK> considering u have lm-sensors installed
[08:35] <arseru_> Yes, but what about something that can be shown in the top bar?
[08:36] <TheBigK> arseru_: google it... im not using gnome ;)
[08:36] <arseru_> ok
[08:36] <TheBigK> gnome reminds me too much of windows 8... and man i hate windows 8 :D
[08:37] <TheBigK> its probably an unfair comparison... but i do the rules in my own world :D
[08:39] <arseru_> TheBigK: which DE do you use?
[08:39] <TheBigK> arseru_: i use KDE
[08:39] <arseru_> cool
[08:41] <node1> ok
[08:45] <node1> My graphic is AMD® Stoney , USB 3.0 Lenevo ideapad 110
[08:46] <node1> ducasse, https://www.lenovo.com/in/en/laptops/ideapad/ideapad-100-series/IdeaPad-110-15IBR-/p/88IP1000708
[08:49] <ducasse> no usb-c, it looks like
[08:52] <node1> You mean type c cable? Like  i have one plus mobile which has type C cable and it easily  plugin into my laptop
[08:53] <node1> So what's the solution? for getting two external monitor attached with Ubuntu?
[08:54] <node1> These two monitor should be separate. I need to just drag my program to work on those workspace.
[08:56] <killall> hello, where can i get an old kernel version for trusty? 3.18.21 amd64?
[08:57] <jo-erlend> node1: Do you have a type-C plug on your laptop or only type-A?
[08:59] <jo-erlend> node1: Looks kinda like you're out of luck. :(
[09:00] <node1> might be
[09:00] <jo-erlend> node1: No, actually, there are usb3-to-hdmi adapters.
[09:01] <jo-erlend> node1: I think you're still in the game. :)
[09:01] <node1> so you want me to connect one monitor with USB port and other with HDMI port?
[09:01] <jo-erlend> node1: that looks like the option you have, yes.
[09:02] <node1> jo-erlend, Thank you very much. But are you sure? 100% if i purchase a USB to HDMI convertor would solve my problem?
[09:03] <arseru_> TheBigK: running sensors-detect and adding 'coretemp' to /etc/modules did the trick and I can now monitor CPU temps, thanks!
[09:03] <node1> Basicallyh i would like to create 3 work space. 1 laptop screen( 1st work space) , other two external monitor would be 2nd and 3rd work space.
[09:03] <arseru_> TheBigK: with https://github.com/alexmurray/indicator-sensors
[09:03] <jo-erlend> node1: Not a 100%, but I think it ought to work. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't. I simply got a bit caught up in the USB-C talk that I forgot about the USB3 HDMI adapters.
[09:03] <node1> I just wanted to drag my monitoring stuff in other screen and testing in another and development in another
[09:04] <jo-erlend> node1: Yes, I understand. I think that should work.
[09:04] <erle-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QnQypCgvgT/
[09:04] <node1> YaY !!!
[09:04] <erle-> > gnome-software-plugin-flatpak forcing snapd
[09:04] <erle-> this is not cool at all
[09:05] <arseru_> Is there any benchmark that I can run on ubuntu 20.04 LTS to test if the Thinkpad L13 is suited for it? Official lenovo website says 18.04 is the one I should use, so I'm not sure about going back to the previous version
[09:05] <ducasse> jo-erlend: it only works if the device supports video over usb, aiui
[09:06] <ducasse> something needs to do the image processing
[09:06] <node1> jo-erlend, Hope this work https://www.flipkart.com/rec-trade-usb-3-0-hdmi-graphic-adapter-converter-hdtv-lcd-pc-laptop-audio-video-cable/p/itmacffcc568459b?pid=USGGY39NTMEGDCUG&lid=LSTUSGGY39NTMEGDCUGJRECQI&marketplace=FLIPKART&cmpid=content_usb-gadget_12825718239_u_8965229628_gmc_pla&tgi=sem,1,G,11214002,u,,,516793455547,,,,c,,,,,,,&ef_id=CjwKCAjwqIiFBhAHEiwANg9szhvm04eesn60XrXWA5a_acHlb10Na35Jdsv3vm0_THeSdMA0bQStrxoCkngQAvD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!739!3!5167934
[09:06] <node1> 55547!!!u!293946777986!&gclid=CjwKCAjwqIiFBhAHEiwANg9szhvm04eesn60XrXWA5a_acHlb10Na35Jdsv3vm0_THeSdMA0bQStrxoCkngQAvD_BwE
[09:07] <jo-erlend> node1: «Important Note: This Adapter only works on the computer which is running Windows 7/8/10 operation system»
[09:08] <node1> oh but i run Ubuntu as host machine.
[09:08] <ducasse> i think your only option is 1 additional screen over hdmi
[09:08] <jo-erlend> ducasse: Yes, but he already has one HDMI output.
[09:09] <ducasse> exactly
[09:09] <TheBigK> arseru_: dont go back to 18.04 ... that would be a terrible idea
[09:09] <jo-erlend> So he only really needs one.
[09:10] <TheBigK> arseru_: benchmark... good question...
[09:10] <TheBigK> for single core u can just run yes > /dev/null
[09:11] <node1> jo-erlend, Can you please link some site where i can purchase USB3 HDMI adapters. I hope it will work.
[09:11] <TheBigK> arseru_: u can run sysbench it seems
[09:12] <TheBigK> sysbench cpu --threads=$numberofthreads run
[09:13] <jo-erlend> node1: Turns out many of them doesn't have good support for Linux. I would be patient and search around. You could ask for it in https://hardwarerecs.stackexchange.com/. Be sure to mention that it must support Linux.
[09:13] <node1> ok
[09:14] <killall> hello, where can i get an old kernel version for trusty? 3.18.21 amd64?
[09:15] <node1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJua1bBIl6g  he did on lenevo hardward on Ubuntu
[09:20] <jo-erlend> node1: Right. So I would explore this site: https://www.displaylink.com/products/find?cat=3&res=1920x1080&num=1&vid_hdmi=1&usba=1
[09:21] <arseru_> TheBigK: thanks again! :)
[09:22] <TheBigK> arseru_: no worries
[09:26] <node1> ok
[09:30] <node1> Anyway let me take a risk. And purchase a USB3 HDMI adapters.
[09:33] <node1> Looks they don't ship to here
[09:34] <jo-erlend> node1: There's always something, isn't there. Well, you could always just start buying different ones and see if one works. Perhaps you're lucky.
[09:34] <jo-erlend> If you are, please add a recommendation on hardwarerecs.
[09:35] <node1> yeah let see
[09:50] <sandman13> I am trying to use dnsmasq as resolver in Ubuntu 20.04. Entire DNS setting is provided by DHCP but dnsmasq doesn't pick it up.
[09:50] <sandman13> /run/dnsmasq/resolv.conf is empty. /etc/dnsmasq.conf is untouched.
[09:50] <sandman13> what am I doing wrong here?
[09:53] <jo-erlend> sandman13: I think there may be a conflict with systemd. Can you try changing /etc/systemd/resolved.conf so that DNSStubListener=no? If I remember correctly, there was also something about /etc/resolv.conf. I think I deleted the link and made a resolf.conf file.
[09:53] <jo-erlend> resolv.conf, that is.
[09:56] <sandman13> jo-erlend: Do I need to stop systemd-resolved?
[09:56] <sandman13> it's stopped at the moment.
[09:56] <jo-erlend> sandman13: Then you don't have to stop it. :)
[09:57] <sandman13> Weird thing is, it used to work fine with same configuration in 16.04
[09:57] <jo-erlend> sandman13:Tell me about it. I've been away from Ubuntu for a few years now and it's like starting from scratch. :)  But that's part of the fun. Slightly frustrating at times, though.
[09:58] <sandman13> systemd-resolved was stopped on both versions
[09:59] <TheBigK> systemctl status or journalctl will tell u why its not starting usually
[09:59] <jo-erlend> sandman13: I played with this a couple of months ago and I distictly remember there was a conflict on port 53 that got in the way. Look at your logs.
[10:00] <sandman13> TheBigK: dnsmasq's log says that it couldn't find nameservers on /run/dnsmasq/resolv.conf, and systemd-resolved is disabled manually to avoid conflict IIRC
[10:04] <furycd001> HI guys.. I've just installed a minimal xubuntu desktop using the mini.iso. I installed the Nvidia 460 tested drivers and now I boot to a black screen with a solid cursor.
[10:05] <furycd001> Can someone please help me get back to my desktop using Nvidia drivers without screen tearing.
[10:14] <jo-erlend> furycd001: perhaps first uninstall the drivers? You can do sudo apt remove xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-*. Press ctrl+alt+f3 or something to get a text console to log into. Arch has a great page on troubleshooting Nvidia:https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA/Troubleshooting#Bad_performance_after_installing_a_new_driver_version
[10:16] <furycd001> thanks for the link and for the heads up. ctrl+alt+f whatever doesn't work. The system appears to be completely locked. I've
[10:16] <furycd001> I've booted into recovery mode to use the root console.
[10:17] <jo-erlend> furycd001: ok, that's just as good. :)
[10:18]  * jo-erlend is _so_ looking forward to Intel dedicated graphics.
[10:21] <furycd001> Ok so driver uninstall worked and I'm back to my desktop :)
[10:21] <jo-erlend> :)
[10:21] <furycd001> How do I install Nvidia drivers without ending up unable to boot again....
[10:22] <jo-erlend> furycd001: I have no idea, my friend. :(  Nvidia is sort of a. Well, they make good _hardware_.
[10:23] <furycd001> See I always just installed first driver listed that said tested and never had any problems. This is my first reinstall since 2017
[10:23] <jo-erlend> furycd001: You have xserver-xorg-video-nouveau installed?
[10:24] <furycd001> yep that is what I'm currently using.
[10:24] <EriC^^> furycd001: which gpu do you have?
[10:25] <furycd001> There's a ton of screen tearing though. It's a Nvidia Corporation GM108M [GeForce 940MX]
[10:26] <EriC^^> which ubuntu version?
[10:27] <furycd001> Minimal xubuntu 18.04.5 installed using the mini.iso ruining kernel 4.15.0
[10:28] <furycd001> I tried install 20.04.2 but it was failing to boot straight away after the installation finished so I never got to even see the desktop....
[10:28] <jo-erlend> furycd001: did you try the Wayland session?
[10:29] <furycd001> no I have not. There is no Wayland option on my current installed & with 20.04.2 I never even made it to the login screen....
[10:30] <jo-erlend> oh...
[10:31] <furycd001> I mainly use this laptop for gaming which is why I'd like to get Nvidia stuff working....
[10:31] <jo-erlend> that's understandable.
[10:32] <jo-erlend> Nvidia needs competition as much as Intel did on the CPU side.
[10:33] <EriC^^> furycd001: try "sudo apt purge nvidia-*" then "sudo apt install nvidia-kernel-source-440 nvidia-driver-440"
[10:34] <furycd001> Trying that now....
[10:36] <killall> hello, where can i get an old kernel version for trusty? 3.18.21 amd64?
[10:36] <furycd001> I'm gonna reboot now to see if that's worked....
[10:37] <guiverc> killall, Ubuntu 14.04 is EOL and only supported via ESM/Ubuntu Advantage
[10:37] <killall> guiverc, i ,know but... i still need that kernel version.
[10:38] <jo-erlend> killall: Have you looked in old-releases.ubuntu.com?
[10:40] <Kon> furycd001: I know several people who had issues with the nvidia-driver-460 driver in the repo. I recommend purging everything relating to it and installing nvidia-driver-450
[10:40] <jo-erlend> killall: no it's still in archive.ubuntu.com.
[10:40] <furycd001> 440 driver booted back to a black screen with solid cursor in the top left corner. CTRL+ALT+F whatever doesn't work.
[10:43] <killall> jo-erlend, i have been there all morning and still not able to found it
[10:47] <furycd001> Ok so I booted back to recovery mode and removed all Nvidia stuff again. Going to try 450 driver now....
[10:50] <EriC^^> furycd001: did you try to blacklist the nouveau driver? maybe that's the problem
[10:51] <furycd001> ummmm no never thought to do that. How do I do that :?
[10:51] <jo-erlend> killall: Was there ever a 3.18 kernel for trusty?
[10:51] <killall> I do believe so, since i have machines with it
[10:52] <killall> jo-erlend,  if not, which version of ubuntu had it? In the archive of pool i seem to find none
[10:56] <jo-erlend> killall: Did 12.04.5 have it maybe?
[10:58] <jo-erlend> killall: this is weird. :)
[10:58] <killall> jo-erlend, i know, i know
[11:00] <jo-erlend> killall: anyway, the kernel is here: https://launchpad.net/linux/+milestone/3.18.21
[11:00] <killall> jo-erlend, compile is the last last last option since i will never have the same parameters the ubuntu team used (i supose)
[11:03] <furycd001> So I blacklisted nouveau and I still boot to a black screen with a solid cursor....
[11:03] <jo-erlend> killall: have you asked in #Ubuntu kernel? Or you could send an email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>I presume.
[11:04] <jo-erlend> killall: that was supposed to be #Ubuntu-kernel
[11:04] <EriC^^> furycd001: did you update-initramfs ?
[11:04] <furycd001> yea I did....
[11:05] <killall> jo-erlend, thanks ;)
[11:05] <jo-erlend> killall: It's possible you may have used the kernel-team PPA, which has since removed it?
[11:08] <jo-erlend> killall: by the way; if you have it on computers now, you could just copy it, you know.
[11:10] <furycd001> I'm totally out of ideas now. I've tried several drivers listed in the driver installation window, I've tried installing drivers from the PPA & I've just tried blacklisting nouveau. Nothing seems to want to work :(
[11:10] <killall> jo-erlend, yes that is what i am doing :)
[11:10] <jo-erlend> killall: May I ask what's so special about that kernel version? :)
[11:14] <tatertots> furycd001: what errors are you getting? does the PPA give a connection timed out ?
[11:15] <jo-erlend> furycd001: Have you tried 21.04?
[11:16] <furycd001> no the PPA installs just fine along with drivers. After installing drivers from the PPA I end up back at the same black screen with solid cursor.
[11:16] <cronopio> hi
[11:17] <cronopio> i just installed guix on top of ubuntu and i'm following a guide on how to setup guix on top of a different distro, but the guide is specific to centOs
[11:17] <cronopio> it begins with the shell command
[11:17] <cronopio> sudo sed -i 's/root/alice/' /etc/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service
[11:17] <cronopio> (where alice is the user)
[11:17] <furycd001> Right before I done a this minimal 18.04 install I installed 20.04.2, bit I never even got to the desktop. It straight away booted to the black screen with solid cursor. Never even got as far as the desktop....
[11:18] <cronopio> but i was thinking, shouldn't i replace 's/root/alice' with '/home/alice/' in ubuntu?
[11:21] <furycd001> Is there a boot log I can share here that might give someone more information on my problems ??
[11:36] <metbsd> is there app to enlarge fonts, apps, and others, like that "scale and layout options" in windows 10
[11:46] <furycd001> I just tried the 390 driver but ended up at the same black screen :(
[12:29] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:31] <random_programme> Hi, I have installed an RT (Real Time) Linux patch on my ubuntu VM. But I am unable to access the newly created RT linux kernel. On trying to open it after reboot, the screen goes blank and hangs. How can I uninstall this RT linux kernel so that I can try with a different version? I tried using Linux-purge (https://launchpad.net/linux-purge) but
[13:31] <random_programme> that's not listing this faulty kernel for removal. Is there any other way of uninstalling this kernel?
[13:32] <killall> jo-erlend, that kernel version is working on my old hardware wich i have 500 machines :(
[13:35] <furycd001> Hey guys.. I'm back and still trying to install nvidia-drivers. I've tried every a bunch of them along with ones in the PPA, but still every time I get a black screen with solid cursor :(
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> furycd001: secureboot on?
[13:40] <furycd001> no I have both secure boot & efi disabled in bios....
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> try to get in with !nomodeset first furycd001
[13:42] <furycd001> I'm currently booted to my desktop using nouveau drivers. Using nouveau is the only way I can successfully boot to lightdm & access my desktop....
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> furycd001: lets see a; ubuntu-drivers list please?
[13:44] <furycd001> termbin.com/z927
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> furycd001: 460 is reccomended so it seems
[13:45] <furycd001> the 460 driver is what nvidia.com recommends for me to install, but even that fails to boot....
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> furycd001: sudo apt install nvidia-driver-460 and pastebin the whole output, maybe volunteers can see whats going on
[13:48] <TheBigK> lotuspsychje: the module is loading? and the Xserver doenst start? do you have a xorg.conf.0 pastebin laying around that we can see whats the Xorg doing wrong?
[13:48] <furycd001> hold on and I'll check if I have that or not....
[13:51] <furycd001> I can't seem to find xorg.conf.0. Where would it be if I had it ??
[14:01] <furycd001> Here the output of apt install nvidia-driver-460 >> http://termbin.com/z0wr
[14:02] <MadLamb> I'm having an issue that bluetooth dies and I cant get it back unless I restart
[14:02] <MadLamb> even service restart doesnt work
[14:02] <MadLamb> I was checking the syslog kernel: bluetoothd[1266]: segfault at 18 ip 000055aad4a95f56 sp 00007ffd98ceb300 error 4 in bluetoothd[55aad4a86000+9b000]
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> looks like sane to me, furycd001
[14:04] <furycd001> yea I can't see any errors or anything unusual like....
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> furycd001: now when rebooting, press F1 to switch to textboot, see if it spits out errors there
[14:06] <furycd001> do I press F1 before or during Plymouth showing up on screen ??
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> after POST booting yeah furycd001
[14:08] <furycd001> ok I'll try that now brb....
[14:11] <furycd001> The screen is completely black until a tty briefly shows up on the screen for no more than a split second. I'm back sitting at a solid cursor again....
[14:11] <furycd001> I don't see any text appearing on screen....
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> pretty weird furycd001
[14:12] <furycd001> yea I'm completely stumped....
[14:13] <furycd001> If I press ESC on the screen with the solid cursor I can get the screen to once flicker on and off....
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> furycd001: can you share your dmesg from a tty?
[14:15] <furycd001> I cannot get to a tty but I can try from a recovery console here....
[14:17] <furycd001> Usedthe root recovery console to cat dmsg to termbin. Here you go >> https://termbin.com/i2oo
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> maybe try the !HWE kernel furycd001
[14:20] <furycd001> hmmm ok that's definitely worth trying since nothing else has worked. How do I install it ??
[14:21] <furycd001> I done an apt-cache search hee but there's a ton of stuff listed....
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> !hwe
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> furycd001: i assume you're on 18.04?
[14:23] <furycd001> Thanks looking now...
[14:23] <furycd001> yea 18.04.5 minimal xubuntu install
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> furycd001: sudo apt install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-18.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-18.04 should do the trick
[14:25] <furycd001> that's it install now thanks :)
[14:30] <furycd001> Just rebooted and ended up back at the same black screen with solid cursor :(
[14:33] <furycd001> I've pretty much tried about everything now & nothing has worked :(
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> furycd001: you didnt add a ppa or drivers from nvidia or so?
[14:35] <furycd001> I did try that before reinstalling but it didn't work....
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> ioria: can you take a look, his 460 installs fine, but black cursor at boot; https://termbin.com/i2oo
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> only nouveau seems to work, both on 4.15 and HWE 18.04
[14:36] <furycd001> The only thing I've done to this fresh install is to install a few apps & then try to install these nvidia-drivers
[14:37] <foist> I use xdotool to search for Firefox and switch to it using a keyboard shortcut. Since I upgraded to the latest Ubuntu, it no longer is able to find Firefox. I guess this is because of the switch to Wayland. Does anyone know a workaround without switching back to xorg? Basically I just want a keyboard shortcut that focuses on Firefox or raises it if it isn't open.
[14:38] <ioria> lotuspsychje, let's see
[14:38] <ioria> furycd001, cat /proc/cmdline
[14:39] <ioria> foist, i guees you already asked this before
[14:39] <furycd001> Here you go >> https://termbin.com/zzk1w
[14:40] <ioria> furycd001, dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:40] <foist> ioria: I did as before, but I don't think I go a clear answer at the time.
[14:40] <foist> s/as/ask
[14:41] <furycd001> Here you go >> https://termbin.com/mo13
[14:42] <foist> Someone suggested `wmctrl -xa firefox || firefox` but that opens a new window each time. I want it to focus the existing window, if there is one.
[14:42] <ioria> foist, wmctrl , xdotool etc .etc. do not work  (for the most part) on wayland ...  i use ydotool but it's adviced to use gdbus or Gjs (java script for gnome)
[14:43] <ioria> furycd001, purge those packages please
[14:44] <ioria> foist,    e.g  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NmdgtX75fZ/   ; https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/P9mzT7ZJtJ/
[14:45] <furycd001> purging now....
[14:46] <furycd001> ok that's them purged....
[14:47] <ioria> furycd001,  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/P9mzT7ZJtJ/  | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:47] <ioria> sorry
[14:48] <ioria> furycd001,  sudo updatedb && locate -i xorg.conf  | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:48] <foist> ioria: I have a question. Most of my mappings did continue to work with wmctrl, just Firefox stopped working. Will gdbus or Gjs work with everything, or do I need to use multiple solutions if I'm staying on Wayland?
[14:49] <furycd001> Here you go >> https://termbin.com/7b5b
[14:51] <ioria> furycd001,  ubuntu-drivers list | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:53] <furycd001> Here you go >> https://termbin.com/hnhz
[14:54] <ioria> furycd001,  and none of those work ?
[14:55] <furycd001> I've only tried 460 since install the hwe kernel a few moments ago. I tried the rest earlier before I'd installed the hwe kernel....
[14:55] <furycd001> None of them worked.
[14:56] <ioria> furycd001,  env | grep SESSION_TYPE
[14:56] <furycd001> When I tried 460 with the hwe kernel the screen flashed once as if it was trying to load lightdm but nothing happened it just went straight back to the black screen and solid cursor.
[14:57] <ioria> furycd001, lightdm ???
[14:57] <furycd001> I'm pretty sure it's lightdm that gets installed with xubuntu. Am I wrong ??
[14:58] <furycd001> XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x12
[14:58] <ioria> furycd001, yes, xubuntu uses lightdm
[14:58] <furycd001> sorry x11
[14:59] <furycd001> I done a netinstall selecting minimal xubuntu, though I was having the problem even on 20.04.2
[15:02] <ioria> furycd001, xserver-xorg-hwe-18.04,   is installed right ?
[15:03] <furycd001> Last Monday my computer locked up when trying to open a new tab in Firefox. I couldn't get back to the desktop & after a day or so of trying I opted to reinstall everything. I installed xubuntu 20.04.2 but straight from the install it booted to the back screen with solid cursor. I never even got to see lightdm let alone the desktop. That is the reason I am running 18.04.5 right now. Yes that is installed....
[15:06] <ioria> furycd001, did you get any errors when you tried to install nvidia 460 ?
[15:07] <furycd001> No there was no errors. The termbin link should be pasted here somewhere....
[15:08] <furycd001> I output the install to termbin for someone to look at...m
[15:08] <ioria> furycd001, dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[15:09] <furycd001> i386 is listed.
[15:09] <furycd001> that is probably blister because I have steam installed....
[15:09] <furycd001> listed*
[15:10] <ioria> furycd001, apt-cache policy nvidia-driver-460 | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:11] <furycd001> Here you go >> https://termbin.com/iebq2
[15:13] <ioria> furycd001, so you installed with mini.iso... and what DE metapackage have you  installed ? xfce or xubuntu-desktop ?
[15:15] <furycd001> from the list I selected minimal xubuntu or something along those lines. Can't remember exactly....
[15:15] <ioria> furycd001, dpkg -l | grep xubuntu-desktop
[15:16] <furycd001> There is no out for that command....
[15:16] <furycd001> but if I change it to xubuntu I can see that xubuntu-core is listed as a package
[15:18] <ioria> furycd001, i have to be afk for 20 mins; try again to install nvidia 460 from terminal (sudo apt install nvidia-driver-460) and maybe save the log
[15:19] <furycd001> I'll install bit now & have it output to termbin again....
[15:19] <furycd001> Thank you so much for all the help so far :)
[15:24] <px> can the ssh server be configured to accept client connections where the public key does not match the private?
[15:28] <foist> ioria: thanks, your pastebins are useful
[15:30] <foist> My USB stick often mounts as read-only for some reason. Is there an easy fix for this?
[15:32] <furycd001> ioria: Here is the driver install output >> https://termbin.com/q7ly . I download and copied over the missing firmware & ran sudo update-initramfs -u
[15:34] <EriC^^> foist: sudo mount -o remount,rw /path/to/mount
[15:35] <ioria> furycd001, i guess it lokks good
[15:35] <ioria> looks
[15:35] <furycd001> yea there's no errors or nothing....
[15:36] <furycd001> now if I reboot I'll lost likely get a black screen and solid cursor....
[15:36] <ioria> furycd001, lsmod | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:37] <foist> EriC^^: how do I get the path?
[15:38] <foist> Just the /media/user/<Drive Name> folder?
[15:39] <furycd001> Here you go >> https://termbin.com/gpav
[15:42] <ioria> furycd001, grep nouveau /etc/modprobe.d/*
[15:44] <furycd001> Here you go >> https://termbin.com/5121k
[15:46] <furycd001> sorry got disconnected there....
[15:46] <ioria> furycd001, grep blacklist /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep nvidia
[15:47] <furycd001> Here you go >> https://termbin.com/legh
[15:47] <ioria> furycd001, try again please, i got 404 err
[15:48] <furycd001> sorry should be https://termbin.com/leqh
[15:49] <ioria> furycd001,  sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer.conf  /home/$USER
[15:51] <furycd001> done..
[15:51] <ioria> furycd001,  ls /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf
[15:52] <furycd001> no such file or directory
[15:53] <ioria> furycd001, grep blacklist /lib/modprobe.d/* | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:54] <furycd001> Here you go >> https://termbin.com/5s05
[15:56] <ioria> furycd001, ls  /lib/modprobe.d/blacklist-nvidia.conf
[15:57] <furycd001> no such file or directory
[15:58] <ioria> furycd001,  sudo mv /lib/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf   /home/$USER
[15:59] <furycd001> done....
[16:00] <ioria> furycd001, sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-driver-460
[16:00] <furycd001> reinstalled
[16:04] <ioria> furycd001, reboot; if you greeted by a blank screen , try to open a console (tty) and restart lightdm ; if tty not working, boot recovery ,mv again the 2 files from your home, and purge nvidia
[16:05] <furycd001> ok I'll try that now. brb....
[16:06] <furycd001> WTF... OMG.. I CAN SEE LIGHTDM AND LOGIN....
[16:07] <furycd001> screen tearing is still present but I was able to login from lightdm :)
[16:07] <ioria> good boy
[16:08] <furycd001> ioria you are amazing. Thank you so so much :D
[16:08] <foist> `sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda` gives me `mount: /dev/sda: mount point not mounted or bad option.`
[16:08] <ioria> furycd001, no problem
[16:09] <furycd001> I am literally never reinstalling ever again lol
[16:19] <stewi> Do any of you have a printer that was particularly easy to set up on Ubuntu? My mother has 18.04 and is asking me for advice on printers.
[16:25] <EriC^^> foist: you have to give it the mountpoint not the device
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> ioria: what was his problem exactly?
[16:37] <EriC^^> foist: yes that's it
[16:53] <foist> EriC^^: thanks
[16:53] <EriC^^> foist: no problem
[17:00] <jason234> hello
[17:00] <jason234> how to compile the kernel of ubuntu, for beginner, if we have the config file (from /boot)?
[17:05] <jason234> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/s390x/ch08s06.html ??[3~
[17:06] <jason234> shall we use the config file ?
[17:06] <leftyfb> jason234: why do you need to compile your kernel?
[17:06] <jason234> to learn #
[17:07] <jason234> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild
[17:07] <leftyfb> jason234: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[17:07] <jason234> there is as well no informtion that we can use the /boot/config file either....
[17:07] <leftyfb> jason234: looks like you have plenty of documentation to get started
[17:08] <jason234> not good one, bad one
[17:08] <V1A> whwta could be the issue for ubuntu not installing, either not showing the drive ("no partition") or when it shows, i cant format it .. "unaple to paretition" ..
[17:08] <jason234> ok got it ! Copy the kernel config file from your existing system to the kernel tree:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild
[17:08] <V1A> i tried 21.04 and drive doesnt show, some 18.x and it doesnt want to format
[17:09] <V1A> will try 20.04 now because thats the onlything that seemed to work so far
[17:11] <jason234> is there a good webpage wiki to recompile the kernel from config file)
[17:11] <jason234> ?
[17:19] <PeGaSuS> any idea why Ubuntu would hang on a "apt update"?
[17:21] <PeGaSuS> I mean, it goes until Hit:9 and hangs
[17:27] <PeGaSuS> it seems to have continued after a bit
[17:27] <ioria> lotuspsychje, not loading module
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> tnx ioria
[17:28] <ioria> lotuspsychje, ok
[17:37] <V1A> getting this error for the 2nd time on a different distro now, "isolinux.bin missing" whats that about?
[17:38] <V1A> i check the medium, isolinux.bin is in the folder /isolinux/ i dont know if it should be elsewhere no clue at all what that does
[18:16] <pavlos> V1A: check your bios for usb flash drive emulation it should be set to hard disk (else it thinks the usb is a floppy
[18:26] <V1A> yea interesting pavlos. it only ever boots when the USB option is set to "force FDD"
[18:27] <V1A> on another tab, the last one (same that offer boot override) i need to set the floppy option to  sd/cardreader
[18:28] <V1A> so when i have SDreader == forceFDD and floppydrive==SDreader .. only then does the SDcard boot
[18:31] <Maik> Anyone know why the upgrade path to 21.04 has been locked again?
[19:00] <Acts10-13> Hey my boss is about to give me a windows machine so I can properly access their samba network. I tried to protest, but whatever credentials they gave me prior werent working. For example, I have read access, but I don't have write access. They assured me the windows machine does work, but I want to stay on my ubuntu. Can I get the credentials off of the windows machine and apply it to ubuntu?
[19:03] <jason234> Acts10-13: you have no choice, you are bound to what want your company. this is legal.
[19:06] <shailangsa> does anybody know what the "Verify Only" on win32 disk imager does?
[19:06] <kryten> Maik: Apparently it's due to LP #1928434 now - another shim bug.
[19:11] <leftyfb> shailangsa: I think you want #windows for help with Windows applications
[19:11] <shailangsa> wrong channel
[19:11] <leftyfb> Acts10-13: same for you. You need to seek support from #windows for how to get data from Windows. Better yet, seek support from your company for work-related credential issues
[19:12] <Acts10-13> leftyfb: Not that type of company. This is boomer tech
[19:14] <leftyfb> Acts10-13: This is an Ubuntu support channel. If you come across an issue with Ubuntu, feel free to ask for help here.
[19:15] <ravage> Acts: start a windows vm and test if it works . If it does I'm sure you can get it to work with Ubuntu . But this channel can only help with the client part as the server seems to be windows
[19:17] <leftyfb> Acts10-13: also, just FYI, "Samba" is the linux project to support the SMB/CIFS protocol on linux clients and servers. Your Windows-hosted fileshares are not considered "Samba".
[19:22] <Acts10-13> its crossover. I am just wondering whether the mount command I was using in Ubuntu to mount the shares, can be given the credentials that supposedly "work" properly from this windows machine, so I don't have to actually use windows.
[19:24] <leftyfb> Acts10-13: typically, yes
[19:25] <leftyfb> Acts10-13: if you're referring to Code Weavers Crossover, that is a souped up WINE implementation. Nothing to do with SMB/CIFS on Ubuntu at all.
[19:25] <Acts10-13> leftyfb: okay because he was under the impressions that the credentials he gave me, didnt work properly because "Linux". He thinks that the machine that he is about to give me, has the exact same credentials, and that it works.
[19:26] <Acts10-13> leftyfb: No, not crossover,lol, I was just saying, the topic of whether my question is windows or ubuntu, crosses over both topics.
[19:27] <leftyfb> Acts10-13: your question of how to gather credentials from a Windows client for use on a linux client is 100% a Windows support question
[19:27] <Acts10-13> Anyways, I think that the machine he is about to give me, if it does work, its because he has totally different credentials, and that if I could just find them, I could get it working on ubuntu.
[19:49] <F-i-G> 👋
[19:50] <Xavierdarkness>
[19:50] <Xavierdarkness> Oops. Ignore me.
[19:50] <F-i-G> any suggestions on how to avoid session loss on battery drain? i posted this with what i'm currently looking at: https://www.reddit.com/r/pop_os/comments/nepmgy/best_way_to_avoid_session_loss_when_battery_dies/
[19:50] <F-i-G> i think option 3 would be my best bet but wanted to see what others were using
[19:51] <F-i-G> Xavierdarkness: ;o)
[19:51] <Maik> kryten: thanks
[21:16] <jvava> dear, I installed nvidia 465 driver for rtx 2060, and update grub cmdline with acpi_backlight=vendor and insert the line into 10-nvidia.conf, but still can not adjust bright, now I don't know how to fix it, please help.
[21:23] <sarnold> jvava: maybe pastebin the changes you've made, and describe how you're trying to change the backlight brightness?
[21:23] <sarnold> jvava: are you sure that it's even supposed to work?
[21:24] <jvava> sarnold, yes, I read someone has successed
[21:28] <jvava> https://gist.github.com/dipsywong98/76c3c956916cc18b7125e5a1c1e6d7d5,       sarnold
[21:30] <sarnold> jvava: this appears to be a year old?
[21:31] <jvava> yes, I am searching for new ones
[21:32] <sarnold> jvava: what did *you* do on your computer? :)
[21:35] <jvava> sarnold,I can adjust bright with xrandr, nearly I just do according the above old article
[21:38] <jvava> I even don't know how to check graphics works  except I can see something
[21:39] <jvava> need some check instructions
[21:46] <jvava> in dmesg, I saw this,
[21:46] <jvava> ```
[21:46] <jvava> i915 0000:00:02.0: [drm] Panel advertises DPCD backlight support, but VBT disagrees. If your backlight controls don't work try booting with i915.enable_dpcd_backlight=1. If your machine needs this, please file a _new_ bug report on drm/i915, see https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/intel/-/wikis/How-to-file-i915-bugs for details
[21:46] <jvava> ```
[21:46] <sarnold> that's for an intel graphics card, not nvidia
[21:48] <jvava> if with that card I can adjust brightness, it is ok, my eyes said.
[21:48] <raub> If I edited grub, ran update-grub, and rebooted, how can I check whcih grub configs were loaded?
[21:49] <devslash> I am using Ubuntu Server without a DE. is there a non GUI based VPM client that I can use to connect to my VPM provider ?
[21:50] <sarnold> devslash: VPM?
[21:50] <raub> What is a VPM?
[21:50] <devslash> yes
[21:50] <devslash> a VPN service
[21:50] <raub> openvpn perhaps?
[21:51] <raub> I will not even ask what a DE is
[21:51] <sarnold> devslash: sure, you can use openvpn or wireguard stuff by hand, or use nmcli to drive a handful of vpn tools
[21:51] <devslash> desktop environment
[21:51] <pavlos> use openvpn in cli to connect t othe vpn rovider, no gui needed
[21:51] <sarnold> raub: you can see the kernel command line with /proc/cmdline -- it's not quite what you asked, but it's related..
[21:52] <devslash> would you guys be able to help me set up openvpn
[21:52] <Entelin> is the proper way to configure network interfaces in ubuntu netplan now?
[21:52] <Entelin> devslash, yes, step 1 would be to use wireguard instead
[21:53] <pavlos> devslash: https://support.strongvpn.com/hc/en-us/articles/360004594693-OpenVPN-Setup-Ubuntu-Linux-Command-Line
[21:53] <devslash> im looking at the wireguard site
[21:53] <Entelin> wireguard is kind of the new vpn hotness, even outperforms ipsec
[21:54] <devslash> but i dont undserstand how/where I configure my vpn provider..
[21:54] <Entelin> provider?
[21:54] <devslash> and I dont mean just the username and login info
[21:54] <raub> sarnold: Thanks. I found out that if I create a separate file in /etc/default/grub.d/, it does not like me to use quotes in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[21:54] <devslash> yes
[21:54] <Entelin> ah well if you have some vpn service you are subscribed to then you should follow their instructions
[21:54] <devslash> i cant they only have their own client
[21:55] <Entelin> then that's it
[21:55] <devslash> but I cannot use it since my server does not have a GUI
[21:55] <devslash> what do you mean thats it ?
[21:55] <sarnold> raub: hmm, I thought mine had quotes in it..
[21:55] <devslash> are you saying that it can't be done ?
[21:55] <sarnold> devslash: if you've chosen a provider that can't support your tools, it's kind of hard to make progress on that, no?
[21:56] <devslash> i dont know if thats the case
[21:56] <Entelin> if they don't have a client for linux then short of doing magic stuff then that's the end of the story. What vpn provider is it?
[21:56] <raub> devslash: tell them that. You need certificates, name of their vpn server, and so on
[21:56] <devslash> I dont think you understand what I am saying...
[21:56] <sarnold> raub: from my /etc/default/grub .. GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="root=ZFS=rpool/ROOT/ubuntu quiet splash acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2015\" LC_TIME=C"
[21:56] <devslash> are you guys familiar with Mullvad VPN ?
[21:56] <jvava> what means by vt.handoff=7 in cmdline
[21:57] <Entelin> https://mullvad.net/en/help/install-mullvad-app-linux/
[21:57] <Entelin> there are many types of vpns, they may be doing something semi proprietary
[21:57] <ravage> The website says they offer openvpn and wireguard
[21:58] <ravage> So check their support area how to get the configs
[21:58] <raub> devslash: get the rpm, unpack it instead of installing it, and suck the config
[21:58] <pavlos> devslash: https://mullvad.net/en/help/linux-openvpn-installation/
[21:59] <raub> devslash: https://mullvad.net/en/help/tag/other-vpn-software/
[21:59] <Bashing-om> jvava: vt == Virtual Terminal such that the GUI will activate in TTY #7 .
[21:59] <ravage> Next time at least try to Google. It really took 5 seconds to find that
[22:00] <jvava> ok, thank you
[22:00] <raub> sarnold: mine looks like this: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=?intel_iommu=on iommu=pt?
[22:00] <sarnold> raub: ?
[22:00] <raub> cat /proc/cmdline gives
[22:00] <sarnold> raub: did you use smartquotes instead of ascii quotes?
[22:00] <devslash> ok thanks
[22:00] <raub> BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-5.4.0-73-generic root=/dev/mapper/testbox-root ro ?intel_iommu=on
[22:01] <devslash> turns out that theyve got a cli client
[22:01] <sarnold> there's another questionmark in that one, too
[22:01] <raub> I am using iterm ina Mac. I hope it is the mac, not the box I ssh into
[22:01] <Entelin> (sorry for the repost) is the proper way to configure network interfaces in ubuntu netplan now? I know netplan is just a front end for other network config tools, so I'm a bit confused why there seem to be so many layers of network configuration now.
[22:01] <Entelin> back in my day you just put shit into /etc/resolv.conf and it worked, and we liked it that way  XD
[22:02] <Bashing-om> !netplan | Entelin
[22:02] <sarnold> Entelin: oh sorry to miss it, yeah, netplan is used to generate systemd-network configs or ask to use networkmanager to manage things
[22:02] <raub> sarnold: let me look at it
[22:02] <raub> devslash: that is what pavlos and I showed
[22:02] <devslash> yes thanks
[22:03] <raub> so, life is good.  It was smartquotes. I *hate* smartwuotes
[22:07] <Entelin> gtg o/
[22:07] <sarnold> raub: yay! :D
[22:07] <sarnold> raub: I hate them *so* much
[22:07] <sarnold> raub: thanks for reporting back :)
[22:08] <raub> It reminds me of "helpful" microsoft
[22:08] <raub> Is there way to make it go away?
[22:10] <sarnold> sorry, I don't know much about macs.. I tried os x for a few weeks back when I got a g3 imac, but I couldn't get past the copy-and-paste behaviour
[22:11] <Acts10-13> How can I easily transfer files from kubuntu to windows and vice versa?
[22:11] <tomreyn> Acts10-13: on the same computer, or across the network?
[22:12] <Acts10-13> Across a network. We share wifi
[22:12] <Acts10-13> tomreyn: ^
[22:12] <tomreyn> a windows / CIFS (samba on Kubuntu) share on one of the computers
[22:12] <Acts10-13> I tried installing team viewer, but I need admin or something. My boss gave this to me.
[22:20] <raub> sarnold: Well, what matters in now I have a happy /proc/cmdline. Thanks!
[22:20] <sarnold> raub: yay! :D
[22:21] <raub> Acts10-13: you can also get winscp/putty for the windows box and then copy files that way
[22:37] <swensson68> Quick question, isn't it possible to forward for example Chrome/Firefox over ssh when the remote computer does not have any video card?.... Thought -X with X11 forward would solve this
[22:38] <sarnold> swensson68: I haven't used it in a few years but yeah that should work
[22:39] <tomreyn> if it's chromium / chrome, this might be relevant https://askubuntu.com/questions/1207883/x11-forwarding-google-chrome-and-chromium-browsers-grey-out-other-apps-show-ok
[22:39] <swensson68> https://dpaste.org/3bEw Then craching
[22:44] <Acts10-13> raub: Ill take a look. Thanks.
[23:26] <PoolShark_> halp.. upgraded to 20.10 (as a stepping stone to 21.04) and kernel 5.8 will not boot.. hangs on Setting up SMP Configuration
[23:26] <PoolShark_> This is on a new Ryzen 5950X
[23:27] <ravage> So you should still have the old kernel available
[23:27] <PoolShark_> I do.. I'm running on 5.4 at the moment
[23:27] <ravage> If you want to upgrade anyway boot it and update to 21.04
[23:28] <PoolShark_> well here's the thing.. I had tried installing 5.10 on 20.04 and got the same thing.. so I am wondering what's up at this point
[23:30] <PoolShark_> (and even this issue is several levels deep down the rabbit hole.. this whole thing started when I installed the new mobo/cpu and Vbox stopped being able to run Win10 guests, so they said get a new kernel, and so here I am trying to make that work)
[23:30] <PoolShark_> I guess there's stuff Ryzen needs in 5.10?
[23:31] <sarnold> I've seen folks have non-obvious boot errors if they didn't install a linux-modules-extra-* package for their new kernel
[23:32] <sarnold> I've seen folks have non-obvious boot errors if they didn't install a linux-modules-extra-* package for their new kernel
[23:36] <PoolShark_> sarnold: that's interesting.. I will try that
[23:37] <PoolShark_72> Nope... adding modules-extra for it did not help
[23:39] <ravage> You can try the latest kernel version
[23:39] <ravage> Maybe it is fixed
[23:40] <PoolShark_72> I tried the latest 5.10 from the development repo and it did not
[23:40] <PoolShark_72> but that was before
[23:41] <ravage> Not sure if isn't still works: https://github.com/pimlie/ubuntu-mainline-kernel.sh
[23:41] <ravage> Havent used it in a while
[23:41] <ravage> Manual install: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[23:42] <ravage> Give 5.12.4 a try
[23:44] <PoolShark_72> yeah I can grab that and see what happens.. worth a try
[23:47] <PoolShark_72> need to install a new libc for 5.4.12
[23:48] <PoolShark_72> this is quickly going to go to dependency hell


[00:15] <CIA-32> ubiquity: stgraber * r5338 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/plugins/ubi-console-setup.py): Directly call change_layout and apply_keyboard instead of using set_keyboard and set_keyboard_variant so that the UI is properly updated.
[00:19] <fabian_> hi I have a problem with my current system and thought reinstalling will do the job. I encrypted my home folder in a seperate partition. Just talked to david kirkland. he told me maybe someone here can tell me how to install the new system and use the old home partition which is encrypted
[00:23] <fabian_> any ideas?
[00:35] <fabian_> nobody here?
[00:49] <fabian_> still nobody?
[01:25] <fabian_> hi I have a problem with my current system and thought reinstalling will do the job. I encrypted my home folder in a seperate partition. Just talked to david kirkland. he told me maybe someone here can tell me how to install the new system and use the old home partition which is encrypted
[08:33] <cjwatson> ev: I imagine you'll need to MIR syslinux-legacy, but accepted through NEW at least
[08:33] <ev> cheers
[08:33] <ev> will do
[08:38] <cjwatson> ev: could use a better description, perhaps
[08:39] <ev> okay, I'll prep another upload
[08:39] <cjwatson> whenever's convenient, no rush
[11:15] <ev> syslinux-legacy MIR is bug 966135
[11:15] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 966135 in syslinux-legacy "[MIR] syslinux-legacy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/966135
[12:00] <CIA-32> ubiquity: cjwatson * r5339 trunk/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/install_misc.py):
[12:00] <CIA-32> ubiquity: Call check-language-support with locale names, not with language pack
[12:00] <CIA-32> ubiquity: names (LP: #963460).
[13:59] <davmor2> stgraber, cjwatson: good news the d-i fix for wifi seems to be partially fixed woohoo!  Only issue is I still don't seem to get a list of available AP's  but at least I can continue onto host name now :)
[13:59] <stgraber> davmor2: AFAICT there's no code actually showing you a list in current netcfg
[14:00] <stgraber> davmor2: if you don't enter anything it'll try the first public network
[14:00] <stgraber> davmor2: if you enter something, then it'll try to connect to that and prompt for credentials
[14:00] <davmor2> stgraber: ah okay and none around here are public
[14:00] <davmor2> stgraber: in that case it probably all works as expected
[14:10] <gema> I found a problem yesterday which I thought was OEM related, but today I am facing it again with a normal resize by default install with ubiquity
[14:10] <gema> it leaves the machine out of memory when trying to create the user
[14:14] <stgraber> gema: how much memory do you have in that machine?
[14:14] <gema> stgraber: it is a netbook, 1 GB
[14:14] <gema> stgraber: jibel said that you guys have been trying to reproduce this for a while, well, I have a machine where it happens quite consistently
[14:14] <gema> so I wonder how you want me to proceed
[14:16] <gema> stgraber: it happened to me yesterday on a OEM install, and today, with an automatic resize install. I can only install reliably on this machine from alternate
[14:16] <gema> stgraber: I was going to try and reproduce on a normal full disk install
[14:16] <stgraber> gema: did you already report a bug about it (so we get new log files)?
[14:16] <gema> stgraber: but it'd be good to know which files do you want before it runs out of memory, to see if I can save them to the usb stick somehow
[14:16] <gema> yes, let me dig it out
[14:17] <gema> stgraber: I reported bug 965513 yesterday
[14:17] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 965513 in ubiquity "Unable to finish user configuration on OEM install Beta 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/965513
[14:17] <stgraber>  /var/log/syslog /var/log/installer/* would be a good place to start, with these we can know what else would be useful
[14:17] <gema> stgraber: ack
[14:50] <bdmurray> stgraber: bug 946406 might be worth looking at
[14:50] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 946406 in casper "suspect race condition Keyboard layout, oem-config not set on persistent USB image" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/946406
[14:51] <stgraber> bdmurray: looks like our usual xklavier bug, so far it was only reported when using ubiquity in greeter mode, but the code path is the same for the live session
[14:52] <stgraber> bdmurray: bug 960096
[14:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 960096 in libxklavier "Live session started with wrong layout" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960096
[15:04] <gema> stgraber: I raised a new bug with all the information I could in, I reported it before the machine actually runs out of memory, in which case it would be quite difficult, bug 966294
[15:04] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 966294 in ubiquity "Precise AMD64 Desktop beta 2 image hangs during an install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/966294
[15:32] <cjwatson> stgraber: were your mega-lots-of-installs-in-parallel tests done with "download updates during installation" turned on?
[15:35] <stgraber> cjwatson: not sure, I used the preseed that the QA team uses in jenkins, let me check quickly
[15:36] <stgraber> cjwatson: can't find any key that seems related to that, no
[15:37] <stgraber> cjwatson: if you want I can change that and start another run, I can easily run one in the background without even noticing the extra load
[15:43] <cjwatson> that would be good if you could, I've been wondering if bug 922949 is reproducible at all
[15:43] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 922949 in ubiquity "installation process can crash due to an issue with one package when choosing "install updates" as part of the install" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/922949
[15:49] <stgraber> jibel: running with both updates and non-free drivers, will see if I can reproduce
[15:52] <stgraber> cjwatson: interesting ... first run failed right after migration-assistant
[15:54] <cjwatson> stgraber: heh, what was the failure?
[15:55] <stgraber> cjwatson: not clear and the X server is behaving weirdly in that VM. I'm having it push that to Launchpad so I can have an easy look at the logs
[16:00] <stgraber> cjwatson: bug 966344
[16:00] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 966344 in ubiquity "ubiquity-dm crashed with ValueError in command(): invalid literal for int() with base 10: ''" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/966344
[16:03] <stgraber> bbiab, lunch
[16:16] <stgraber> cjwatson: this one isn't a race, I just had it happen three times in a row
[16:19] <njin> bug962949 , possible that i can reproduce so frequently ???
[16:19] <njin> bug 962949
[16:19] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 962949 in compiz "Buttons on the right in live session" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/962949
[16:25] <stgraber> cjwatson: setting "ubiquity ubiquity/download_updates boolean true" is what causes bug 966344, not sure why yet
[16:25] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 966344 in ubiquity "ubiquity-dm crashed with ValueError in command(): invalid literal for int() with base 10: ''" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/966344
[16:26] <stgraber> cjwatson: same crash with ubiquity/use_nonfree set
[16:27] <stgraber> cjwatson: as for my X weirdness, it seems to be caused by ubiquity-dm not killing X on exit (or not doing it properly), causing me to have two X servers on the same vt apparently
[17:42] <cjwatson> stgraber: "pool[7727]: segfault at b ip b7482425 sp ad13af80 error 6 in libc-2.15.so[b7362000+19f000]
[17:42] <cjwatson> "
[17:42] <cjwatson> stgraber: isn't that what you were looking for?
[17:43] <cjwatson> for bug 950282 - it's in your logs for 966344
[17:43] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 950282 in oem-priority/precise "Installation failing with pop-up "The installer encountered an unrecoverable error and will now reboot."" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/950282
[17:48] <CIA-32> os-prober: cjwatson * r337 ubuntu/ (5 files in 5 dirs): merge from Debian 1.51
[17:49] <CIA-32> os-prober: cjwatson * r338 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.51ubuntu1
[17:49] <stgraber> cjwatson: I need more coffee :)
[17:49] <stgraber> cjwatson: so yeah, apparently I have a reproducer for my bug!
[19:37] <CIA-32> ubiquity: stgraber * r5340 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/plugins/ubi-usersetup.py): Make sure we call detect_bogus_result() in ubi-usersetup if it's defined by the frontend.
[20:13] <stgraber> cjwatson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/902776/ is the fix for bug 950282
[20:13] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 950282 in oem-priority/precise "Installation failing with pop-up "The installer encountered an unrecoverable error and will now reboot."" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/950282
[20:15]  * stgraber looks for any other timeout left around, these are evil and have been causing a lot of pain with console-setup already ... and now with user-setup
[20:17] <cjwatson> fun; makes sense, thanks ...
[20:27] <CIA-32> ubiquity: stgraber * r5341 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/plugins/ubi-usersetup.py): ubi-usersetup: Don't call gobject timeout_add when in automatic mode as it triggers bugs like bug 950282
[20:27] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 950282 in oem-priority/precise "Installation failing with pop-up "The installer encountered an unrecoverable error and will now reboot."" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/950282
[20:32] <stgraber> cjwatson: I'll be happy to run a loop fo install tests with non-free + updates once we have the new ubiquity released and new images, manually patching each of the installs kind of defeat the point of automated testing ;)
[20:35] <jibel> stgraber, originally I got this segfault on a laptop booted manually from a usb stick and just got it once on a VM with automated tests.
[20:41] <stgraber> jibel: hmm, ok... it might have been another bug or you were really really fast at having ubiquity switch to the next step
[20:41] <stgraber> jibel: you basically need to have the gtk window vanish within a 600ms window after you type the last character of your hostname for it to happen
[20:42] <stgraber> jibel: however the segfault is apparently a generic "gtk exploded" one, so it may be something else a bit later on that was causing the problem for you
[20:42] <jibel> stgraber, it crashed directly on start.
[20:42] <stgraber> jibel: ok, directly on start is definitely another bug then
[20:42]  * stgraber checks ubi-language for a similar bug
[20:43] <stgraber> I seem to remember seeing a gobject timeout in ubi-language too
[20:44] <stgraber> jibel: was network manager trying to connect at that time by any chance?
[20:46] <jibel> stgraber, I was at the office, so on wireless without a connection set up
[20:47] <stgraber> jibel: ok, I "think" I see what can happen but you need to be really unlucky
[20:47] <stgraber> when we get network-changed from NM we wait 300ms for another signal, if we don't get any, we poke the plugins, then ubi-language spawns a wget and waits another 300ms
[20:48] <stgraber> if by the time all this ends, you switched to the next step, you get a crash
[20:48] <jibel> stgraber, even in ubiquity-dm ?
[20:49] <stgraber> jibel: yeah
[20:49] <jibel> there was no UI at all, it crashed before the UI starts rendering
[20:49] <stgraber> oh
[20:49] <stgraber> well, I suppose it'd be true for the case where the UI doesn't fully exist yet ;)
[20:51] <jibel> ok, anyway I can't find a way to reproduce it anymore. I tried the images that I know were failing (20120313 amd64) and it works just fine. same laptop, same usb stick, same network, .... :/
[21:08] <CIA-32> ubiquity: stgraber * r5342 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.10.4


[10:33] <airurando> morning
[14:46] <root___> damn there's a lot of ubunutu channels
[14:48] <ebel> yeah
[14:48] <ebel> IRC is used for a lot of ubuntu development
[14:58] <slashtom> oh, i think there may be a PoTD tomorrow
[18:56] <infoturtle> airurando ping
[19:35] <airurando> hello infoturtle
[19:36] <infoturtle> hello, are you well? any chance you could DM the user name and password for the site to put the pics of UGJ Limerick up?
[19:36] <infoturtle> I can't seem to keep on to passwords
[19:46] <airurando> will do
[19:46] <airurando> just getting them now
[19:46] <infoturtle> fantastic, thanks!
[19:48] <airurando> done
[19:48] <airurando> let me know when they are up
[19:49] <airurando> infoturtle, while you are here.
[19:49] <infoturtle> yes?
[19:50] <airurando> I know there are some who want to drop/amalgamate UH Dub in preference to ILUG PoTD.
[19:51] <airurando> I can understand this.
[19:51] <airurando> not deciding that here (probably at next weeks meeting)
[19:53] <airurando> but for this month at least, with the release party likely set for the evening of Thurdsay 28th of April, should we just drop UHD and UHL?
[19:53] <infoturtle> sorry, be right back, my mam just called and wants to drop something off, I've to go meet her
[19:53] <airurando> UHD would be due to tsake place on 27th and UHL on 28th
[19:53] <airurando> no bother
[20:01] <infoturtle> sorry bout that
[20:03] <infoturtle> Well is their a want to convert the UHL to a Ilug POTD? if not I say leave it as it is if that suits everybody
[20:03] <infoturtle> the turn out is usally just two of us so I wouldn't say changing the name will help us in anyway
[20:05] <airurando> nah I'm speaking specifically about dublin for the amalgamation with PoTD
[20:05] <infoturtle> oh
[20:06] <airurando> the concept behing UH differs from PoTD.
[20:06] <airurando> but some of the Dublin crew don't believe UHD is working with just the same folks turning up each month.
[20:07] <airurando> low numbers also
[20:07] <airurando> before UH the Irish LoCo guys attended the PoTD regularly.
[20:08] <airurando> not sure what will be decided long term but just for this month I'm suggesting we scrap both UH events for the release party.
[20:09] <airurando> having UHD on the 27th and UHL on the 28th seems pointless when we're likely having the release party on the 28th.
[20:10] <airurando> infoturtle, what say you?
[20:10] <infoturtle> ah, now I see where this is going
[20:10] <infoturtle> never spotted the dates were so close
[20:10] <infoturtle> OK, I can still get my fix of Ubuntu out and about-ness from the release and we can discuss it in dept at the meeting next week but I agree with leaving out the UH for this month
[20:11] <airurando> good.  I'm a bit worried that this hasn't been agreed at meeting but I only thought of it recently
[20:12] <airurando> will try to get others opinions over the coming days
[20:12] <infoturtle> well, we both suffer from the problem of having the same people attend over and over so as long and they agree and we just make a notice that there will be no UH this month I don't think anyone will be let down
[20:13] <airurando> I'll cancass opinions anyway to be safe.
[20:13] <airurando> *canvass
[20:14] <airurando> regarding the future of UHL that is completely up to you guys.  I would love if it continued.  You could invite others to attend and perhaps ammend the title to UH + something.
[20:15] <airurando> don't really have that option in Dublin.
[20:16] <infoturtle> t'would be best, how do you inteend asking people? should we put in on the social sites, mailing list of Ubuntu-ie.org? just wondering if I can help
[20:16] <infoturtle> I think UHL as a name works, just need more awareness about it, I duno though, maybe others have ideas about it
[20:17] <airurando> suppose we can chat about it face to face next thursday :0
[20:18] <airurando> sorry
[20:18] <airurando> :)
[20:18] <infoturtle> ya, that would work better!
[20:37] <infoturtle> pics are up (sorry for the ages it took, internets painfully slow)
[20:38] <infoturtle> http://pix.ie/ubuntuie/album/407407
[20:55] <airurando> thanks infoturtle, they look great.
[20:55] <airurando> I see they have made it into our loco dir team page photo stream :)
[20:55] <airurando> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-ie
[20:56] <infoturtle> some are blurry and hadn't much time to take pics as they only came for the last 2 hours, but ya they look good
[20:57] <infoturtle> ha, wiat till ericka see shes on the ubuntu loco page, now the teasing of being a nerd begins!!
[20:59] <airurando> ha ha