[16:00] <Daviey> o/
[16:00] <arosales> Hello
[16:00] <utlemming> greetings
[16:00] <Daviey> utlemming: driving today?
[16:00] <utlemming> Daviey: up, just pulling all the stuff up now
[16:00] <Daviey> super duper
[16:01] <jamespage> o/
[16:01] <smoser> o/
[16:01] <utlemming> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
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[16:01] <utlemming> Welcome everyone to our server meeting!
[16:01] <utlemming> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:02] <zul> hiho
[16:02] <utlemming> jamespage: you had an action to checkin with MIR team on expected review timescales for server MIRs
[16:02] <utlemming> and zul to make sure relevant MIR bugs have ubuntu-server-release subscribed
[16:02] <jamespage> most MIR's are now assigned an owner - there are a few I still need to checkin on
[16:03] <zul> utlemming: oops
[16:03] <jamespage> I also went through the MIR team subscribed bugs and added the 'Ubuntu Server Team' a bug subscription for those packages
[16:04] <jamespage> so I think the list is now up-to-date in http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:04] <utlemming> jamespage: is there any further action on that? Or do we need to carry it over for next week?
[16:04] <zul> i have at least 5 more dependencies coming up, still need to be reviewed by an archvie admin
[16:04] <jamespage> there is but the original action got me todo the important stuff so please close
[16:05] <jamespage> I'll keep pushing on this stuff - lets monitor through the development update section
[16:05] <utlemming> zul: do we need followup next week?
[16:05] <zul> utlemming: no i can do that once they get into the archive
[16:05] <utlemming> okay, moving on...
[16:05] <utlemming> arosales: had an action to sort out blueprints and get the trend line working correctly
[16:06] <utlemming> arosale: do you have a status update for us?
[16:06] <arosales> I spoke with Daviey on the topic mapping
[16:06] <arosales> I need to get the trend line reset
[16:06] <arosales> I'll try to get that done this week.
[16:07] <utlemming> #action arosales and daviey to work on trend line reset
[16:07] <meetingology> ACTION: arosales and daviey to work on trend line reset
[16:07] <Daviey> inpreogressy-done-ish
[16:07] <utlemming> smoser, jamespage: had an action for review and assign SRU bug across team.
[16:07] <jamespage> done
[16:08] <utlemming> okay, rbasak: find out whether openvswitch module can be enabled for quantal ARM kernels
[16:08] <jamespage> utlemming, mark that done - kernel team confirmed they would review
[16:09] <utlemming> jamespage: ack
[16:09] <utlemming> #topic Quantal Development
[16:09] <utlemming> Any topics for Quantal Development?
[16:09] <arosales> A few for Blueprints
[16:10] <arosales> utlemming: may I interject?
[16:10] <utlemming> arosales: please
[16:10] <arosales> So we should roughly be around 30% complete for BPs at this point in the cycle
[16:10] <arosales> there are a few that are at 0%
[16:11] <arosales> I'll step through those if you don't mind utlemming
[16:11] <arosales> ARM
[16:11] <arosales> rbask a few that are at 0%
[16:12] <arosales> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-servercloud-arm.html
[16:12] <arosales> specifically
[16:12] <arosales> 		https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-server-benchmark-and-performance
[16:12] <arosales> 		https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-arm-server-storage-testing
[16:12] <arosales> for rbasak for the log minutes
[16:12] <arosales> utlemming: push to the clouds
[16:12] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-push-to-the-clouds
[16:12] <arosales> I think hardware is in progress there, other status up to date?
[16:13] <arosales> Bug Triage
[16:13] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-bug-triage-review
[16:13] <arosales> Ursinha: any update on reports for triage work?
[16:13] <arosales> Juju BPs
[16:14] <arosales> Charm release policy: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy
[16:14] <arosales> and
[16:14] <arosales> Charm Unit test: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-unit-tests
[16:14] <arosales> SpamapS: I think you have made some progress on the release policy correct?
[16:14] <Ursinha> arosales, no updates now, maybe next week
[16:14] <arosales> m_3: I think you have also made some progressing on unit testing
[16:15] <arosales> Ursinha: ok, thanks
[16:15] <arosales> Openstack Juju Charms Next steps
[16:15] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-charms
[16:15] <arosales> adam_g: how are the openstack charms?
[16:15] <SpamapS> arosales: the release policy was merged and is part of the official documentation for juju now
[16:16] <SpamapS> arosales: implementing it is another story. :)
[16:16] <adam_g> arosales: they've been in sync with upstream development, but those TODOs are still TODO.
[16:16] <arosales> SpamapS: so 0% still valid for release policy
[16:16] <SpamapS> adam_g: we need to work on getting all of the actual openstack charms into the charm store, and having the CI tests running *off of those*
[16:16] <arosales> adam_g: ok, thanks
[16:16] <arosales> cloud-init
[16:16] <adam_g> SpamapS: im not sure that'll work, but we'll talk
[16:17] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-cloud-init-utils - smoser?
[16:17] <SpamapS> arosales: no I marked one of them DONE because the release policy is "done"
[16:17] <arosales> not a top priority, but at 0% so thought I would bring it up here
[16:17] <SpamapS> adam_g: if that won't work, then we should just dismantle the charm store. ;)
[16:17] <arosales> SpamapS: ok, thanks
[16:17] <smoser> arosales, i'll update that today.
[16:17] <arosales> smoser: ok thanks
[16:17] <arosales> and one last one for rbasak:
[16:18] <adam_g> SpamapS: they are forks of the upstream charm store charms, with lots of special sauce added for our environment. isn't that the point?
[16:18] <arosales> perhaps you can also comment smoser
[16:18] <SpamapS> adam_g: no, forking == fail
[16:18] <adam_g> adam_g: actively synced forks, i might add
[16:18] <arosales> apt
[16:18] <adam_g> er
[16:18] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-apt-improvements
[16:18] <adam_g> SpamapS: lets talk later
[16:18] <SpamapS> adam_g: yeah we will
[16:18] <arosales> apt BP also at 0%, but I know there is a spec out for review.
[16:18] <rbasak> I think we've more or less reached consensus on the broad plans for the apt improvements inside Ubuntu
[16:19] <rbasak> So now I need to get back to full steam ahead on testing my PoC, and on turning the current productions into something that is production ready
[16:19] <arosales> rbasak: good to hear, could you also follow up on the ARM BPs mentioned above?
[16:19] <rbasak> Sorry I was late to the meeting. I'll check the logs when they're published
[16:20] <arosales> rbasak: ok, thanks
[16:20] <arosales> utlemming: those are the 0% ones that I wanted to bring up. I realize some 0% is valid as we are working on the items but they can't be marked as done just yet.
[16:20] <arosales> utlemming: back to you
[16:20] <utlemming> #action everyone update their blueprint status
[16:20] <meetingology> ACTION: everyone update their blueprint status
[16:20] <utlemming> #topic Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:21] <utlemming> daviey: care to comment on the bug status?
[16:22] <utlemming> okay, moving on then....
[16:22] <utlemming> #topic 12.04.1 Development (jamespage & smoser)
[16:22] <utlemming> jamespage and smoser: how goes 12.04.1
[16:22] <arosales> utlemming: can we can come back to the bugs after 12.04.1 udpate
[16:23] <rbasak> I added a couple of bugs for tracking
[16:23] <smoser> hm.. well, there is plenty of work todo.
[16:23] <utlemming> arosales: yes sir
[16:23] <smoser> http://people.canonical.com/~jamespage/server-sru/precise-sru.html
[16:23] <jamespage> http://people.canonical.com/~jamespage/server-sru/precise-sru.html
[16:23] <jamespage> snap
[16:23]  * jamespage lets smoser lead
[16:24] <rbasak> or at least I tried to add them. What is required to get bugs into the tracker?
[16:24] <smoser> well, given that list there, anything targetted, we really need to get cracking on
[16:24] <Daviey> utlemming: sorry, had a brown out.
[16:25] <smoser> juju and maas have a lot, that we're expecting an update for. those are the single largest things.
[16:25] <smoser> but if your name is on osomething there, or you think you can help, please take a bug and fix it.
[16:25] <smoser> ask someone to review and / or upload.
[16:25] <utlemming> Daviey: that was me yesterday...we'll come back to you after the current topic :)
[16:25] <Daviey> RE: maas.. currently in discussions how to do this.. it is making progress.
[16:25] <SpamapS> smoser: note that most of juju's were moved to precise-updates
[16:25] <smoser> jamespage, do you have any more "GET IT DONE!" like comments?
[16:25] <jamespage> smoser, I had a few specific bugs I would like to raise
[16:25] <smoser> please do.
[16:26] <jamespage> bug 858867
[16:26] <SpamapS> there's a security upload coming for juju, and then one more upload to proposed to fix a few of the more important things for 12.04.1
[16:27] <jamespage> this one has been kicked around for a while; as cobbler does not form part of our provisioning solution going forward should we really care about this for 12.04.1
[16:27] <jamespage> bug 988819 we just agreed to re-consider the approach
[16:27] <SpamapS> jamespage: err.. maas in 12.04 needs it
[16:27] <smoser> for 858867, i had asked roaksoax to ask upstream about this.
[16:28] <jamespage> SpamapS, that really depends on '<Daviey> RE: maas.. currently in discussions how to do this.. it is making progress.'
[16:28] <zul> bug #990162 is a new one on the radar as well
[16:28] <smoser> we really should ask upstream what they recommend.
[16:28] <jamespage> and bug 975473
[16:28] <roaksoax>   smoser sorry i got delayed with maas stuff, i'll take care of it today
[16:28] <SpamapS> ah
[16:28] <rbasak> zul: 990162 is fixed in Quantal I hear? Is that confirmed?
[16:29] <roaksoax> jamespage: that is in progress, we might have something by EoW... but for quantal
[16:29] <zul> rbasak: yeah
[16:29] <roaksoax> (maas-provision / cobbler-copy)
[16:29] <jamespage> I guess targets for 12.04.1 still need to be agreed then.
[16:29] <zul> rbasak: quantal has a newer version, but the fix should be backported to precise
[16:30] <jamespage> zul, it would be good to get that webob SRU nailed as well.
[16:30]  * rbasak marks it as Fix Released in Quantal
[16:30] <zul> jamespage: agreed ill spend some time on it tomorrow
[16:30] <jamespage> other than that I would say that we have already pushed through a large number of SRU's
[16:30] <Daviey> \o/
[16:30] <jamespage> well done!
[16:31] <arosales> nice :-)
[16:31] <rbasak> james_w: which one?
[16:31] <utlemming> okay, back Daviey
[16:31] <utlemming> #topic Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:32] <arosales> bugs :-)
[16:32] <Daviey> So.. the page is empty for me.. it was working :)
[16:32] <arosales> so we are still working on bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/974584
[16:32] <Daviey> I'll investigate that
[16:32] <arosales> hallyn: I saw a fix for that though . .  .
[16:32] <hallyn> stgraber was going to bring that up at the next foundations mt
[16:32] <hallyn> mtg
[16:32] <arosales> hallyn: ok, thanks.
[16:33] <Daviey> super
[16:33] <arosales> bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/1023066
[16:33] <arosales> jamespage: I saw you take an initial look
[16:33] <adam_g> arosales: i fixed that quantum thing upstream, it should be fixed with the next quantum upload (this week?)
[16:33] <jamespage> adam_g is on it
[16:33] <Daviey> zul / adam_g: bug 1020313
[16:34] <arosales> adam_g: thanks
[16:34] <zul> on it
[16:34] <Daviey> bug 844995 .. volunteer ?
[16:34] <Daviey> shouldn't be super complicated
[16:35] <jamespage> note that touches kombu as well
[16:35] <zul> eh?
[16:35] <jamespage> to drop python-couchdb to universe we have to drop support from kombu
[16:35] <arosales> bug 1024408 also needs a volunteer :-)
[16:36] <Daviey> arosales: if nobody else takes that, i'll have it
[16:36]  * Daviey takes it
[16:37] <Daviey> nobody want to sign up to, bug 844995 ?
[16:37] <rbasak> Ooh, I was going to propose that we did that
[16:37] <Daviey> rbasak: do you want it? :)
[16:37] <rbasak> Go on then
[16:37] <jamespage> \o/
[16:38] <Daviey> rbasak: wait, which one do you want?
[16:38] <Daviey> both? :)
[16:38] <roaksoax> FYI maas related MRI's are not being tracked on the report
[16:38] <rbasak> 1024408
[16:38] <roaksoax> err MIR
[16:38] <jamespage> roaksoax, please let me know which bugs and packages - I'll get it sorted
[16:39] <Daviey> jamespage: see the c-m report
[16:39] <Daviey> jamespage: it just needs bug subscriptions to be added
[16:39] <jamespage> Daviey, yeah - I know
[16:39] <Daviey> err, PACKAGE bug subscriptions
[16:39] <Daviey> super
[16:39] <Daviey> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
[16:40] <roaksoax> jamespage: bug #1020267
[16:40] <roaksoax> bug #1024086
[16:40] <roaksoax> bug #1020278
[16:40] <roaksoax> bug #1020273
[16:40] <roaksoax> jamespage: ^^
[16:41] <jamespage> roaksoax, ta - doing now
[16:41] <Daviey> lets move on..
[16:41] <Daviey> thanks all
[16:42] <utlemming> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:42] <utlemming> Any one have any events?
[16:42] <arosales> OSCON this week
[16:42] <arosales> robbiew, m_3, jcastro, and jimbaker all doing presentations.
[16:43] <utlemming> Any others?
[16:43] <arosales> Cloud Open coming up next  at the end of August.
[16:43] <utlemming> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:43] <utlemming> hggdh: Do you have anything interesting for us this week?
[16:44] <hggdh> not really, apart from the surprise we got on arm testing
[16:44] <hggdh> there are no usable images for server...
[16:44] <utlemming> do you have a bug number?
[16:45] <hggdh> no bug; the last update on server image was on June 27th, so I believe this is known
[16:46] <hggdh> and may be part of the move to a live system as opposed to preinstalled
[16:46] <utlemming> okay, good to know
[16:46] <hggdh> I just wish I had been notified of it
[16:46] <hggdh> ..
[16:46] <utlemming> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:46] <utlemming> smb: anything of importance this week?
[16:47] <utlemming> okay, moving on then...
[16:48] <utlemming> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
[16:48] <rbasak> Just one note from me. highbank support for precise should be landing shortly, in bug 1004011
[16:48] <Daviey> hmm
[16:48] <rbasak> One SRU which we mentioned earlier, bug 990162 - ahs3 is working on a backport for this
[16:48] <rbasak> Nothing else to report. Any questions for me?
[16:49] <utlemming> #topic Open Discussion
[16:49] <utlemming> Any one having anything else to add?
[16:49] <Daviey> hggdh: for being out of context.. the ARM server images are unrelated to squashfs switch.. There is an unrelated issue, which is being blocked on the switch, as they are anticipating more issues.
[16:50] <Daviey> hggdh: what is worrying, is that it took 2 weeks for QA to notice :P
[16:51] <jamespage> Daviey, not automated testing yet I guess :-)
[16:51] <utlemming> Daviey: should we have some follow up on this issue then?
[16:52] <Daviey> well, it's in hand AIUI
[16:53] <utlemming> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
[16:53]  * Daviey waits for the suprise.
[16:53] <Daviey> same time, same place?
[16:53] <utlemming> July 24th 2012, 1600 UTC right here
[16:53] <utlemming> util we virtual meet again....
[16:53] <utlemming> #endmeeting
[16:54] <arosales> thanks for chairing utlemming
[16:54]  * SpamapS got split off w/ meetingology :-P
[18:20] <jokrebel> Hi
[19:56] <Lasall> hi there ;)
[19:57] <hexe25> hi
[19:57] <Lasall> hi hexe25
[20:00] <czajkowski> SergioMeneses: huats xdatap1 itnet7 ping
[20:00] <xdatap1> here we are
[20:01] <czajkowski> who is charing
[20:01] <czajkowski> don't all jump up at once :)
[20:01] <xdatap1> :)
[20:02] <huats> good night everyone
[20:02] <huats> sorry I am late
[20:02] <itnet7> I can't sorry
[20:02] <czajkowski> itnet7: nods
[20:02] <xdatap1> huats, could you chair please?
[20:02] <SergioMeneses> here I am... good night guys
[20:03] <huats> czajkowski:  I can
[20:03] <huats> even if I am a bit rusty with the commands
[20:03] <xdatap1> huats, thanks dude!
[20:03] <itnet7> thanks huats \o/
[20:03] <czajkowski> yay
[20:04] <huats> ok
[20:05] <huats> #startmeeting Loco Council 2012 07 12
[20:05] <meetingology> huats: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.
[20:05] <huats> #chair huats
[20:05] <njin> hallo everybody
[20:06] <huats> #topic Germany reapproval
[20:06] <czajkowski> utlemming: can you please end your last meeting
[20:06] <Fuchs> (not sure if the bot got that right, since it err'd on your first command. Already a meeting running?)
[20:06] <huats> yep I have just realized that
[20:07] <MarkusH> hey guys. Sorry for being late. I was stuck in traffic.
[20:07] <czajkowski> yup trying to kill that meeting
[20:07] <toddy> no problem, MarkusH :)
[20:07] <czajkowski> huats: just carry on
[20:07] <huats> ok never mind for the bot
[20:08] <huats> ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda
[20:08] <huats> We have a busy meeting !
[20:08] <toddy> hi huats
[20:08] <huats> 'LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GermanTeamReApprovalApplication2012
[20:08] <huats> Is there anyone from Germany ?
[20:09] <toddy> hee are some of the german loco men and women
[20:09] <Lasall> o/
[20:09] <toddy> o/
[20:09] <Fuchs> huats: from the german LoCo: yes, a few.
[20:09]  * tomx3 <-- here for example
[20:09] <svij> o/
[20:09] <Fuchs> o/
[20:09] <czajkowski> welcome folks
[20:09] <SergioMeneses> hello ubuntu-germany
[20:09] <huats> ok guys
[20:09] <czajkowski> thanks for coming
[20:09] <huats> thanks for coming
[20:09] <njin> great Ubuntu-de
[20:09] <huats> Is there anyone who want to speak ? to explain us the main topics ?
[20:09] <tomx3> and another german guy
[20:10] <huats> or the main points from your reapproval ?
[20:10] <toddy> yes I can, huats
[20:10] <SergioMeneses> where are the german guys? :)
[20:10] <hexe25> and another german woman :)
[20:10] <MarkusH> o/
[20:10] <apollo13> SergioMeneses: we are waiting for toddy to speak ;)
[20:10] <huats> toddy: than go ahead :)
[20:10] <czajkowski> nice wiki page
[20:10] <march> Thanks. :)
[20:10] <Lasall> welcome
[20:11] <toddy> thank you czajkowski
[20:11] <SergioMeneses> ok ok :=)
[20:11] <jokrebel> o/
[20:11] <toddy> This year we are a little bit late with our application. Sorry for that.
[20:11] <czajkowski> toddy: thats fine
[20:11] <SergioMeneses> toddy, don't worry
[20:11] <czajkowski> so tell is about your loco, how things are done
[20:12] <toddy> we have a big loco with over 200 people in the group of the loco
[20:12] <toddy> and any more that are not organze in the loco group
[20:13] <toddy> we habe many groups (over 20) in Germany with have local meetings
[20:13] <czajkowski> nods
[20:13] <huats> impressive
[20:14] <toddy> we have every year a big meeting, this year in Berlin
[20:14] <toddy> the ubucon
[20:14] <czajkowski> well done on useing the LTP http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-de-locoteam/events/history
[20:14] <toddy> On LinuxTag in Berlin we have made a nice Ubuntu Lounge with couches and we have had the biggest booth of all projects.
[20:15] <czajkowski> toddy: how do you organise you taking part?  does everyone get involved ?
[20:15] <huats> do you have any idea of the attendance of the ubucon ?
[20:16] <toddy> everybody can be a member in one of the groups of the locoteam
[20:16] <czajkowski> toddy: can you explain a bit more about the groups
[20:16] <toddy> and the groups are member of the locoteam (the orga in lanchpad)
[20:17] <SergioMeneses> toddy, could you tell us more about ubuntu Deutschland e.V.?
[20:17] <toddy> huats: 200 till 250 people are every year at the ubucon
[20:17] <czajkowski> or if anyone else wants to talk please do
[20:17] <toddy> in berlin maybe more
[20:17] <SergioMeneses> 250 people!!! great
[20:18] <xdatap1> well done
[20:18] <itnet7> Great work
[20:18] <huats> great
[20:18] <toddy> czajkowski: there are different groups the ops of ubuntu-de (channel on freenode), the german portal ubuntuusers.de
[20:18] <Fuchs> czajkowski: the e.V. is a "eingetragener Verein", an organisational unit which helps you a lot in germany with legal, financial or logistical issues.
[20:18] <apollo13> SergioMeneses: what do you want to know about the e.V. -- it's mainly a legal base for out stuff
[20:18] <apollo13> our*
[20:18] <toddy> communtu, a built system for ubuntu, czajkowski
[20:18] <Fuchs> czajkowski: basically, if you want to have such a big organisation in germany you better register one of those, since else it's quite hard to manage. It is a legal entity and therefore also a contact point.
[20:18] <huats> I have another question : (2 actually) is juliux still involved ? and how have you done the ubuntu-eu transition ?
[20:18] <SergioMeneses> apollo13, it is only for support?
[20:19] <czajkowski> Fuchs: oh interesting
[20:19] <apollo13> SergioMeneses: no the e.V. is just for legal stuff, you can't do anything without it in germany
[20:19] <czajkowski> thanks for explaining
[20:19] <toddy> huats: yes juliux is still involved
[20:19] <toddy> huats: he is not here, couse he is at holiday
[20:19] <apollo13> huats: transistion from what to where, ubuntu-eu still exists ;)
[20:19] <huats> toddy: please say hi to him :)
[20:19] <apollo13> if you mean the server structure
[20:20] <toddy> huats: I will do that :)
[20:20] <huats> apollo13: that is what I meant :)
[20:20] <huats> since we had a  lot of team complaining with that
[20:20] <huats> :)
[20:20] <SergioMeneses> apollo13, Fuchs great
[20:20] <apollo13> SergioMeneses: for support there is ubuntuusers.de and mailinglists, that's also the reason why the page of the e.V. is pretty empty
[20:20] <SergioMeneses> apollo13, I see
[20:20] <Fuchs> (and the #ubuntu-de channel namespace)
[20:21] <czajkowski> ok, one last question, any issues you've had in the last 2 years and antying else we should know about ?
[20:22] <apollo13> issues? just that linux-mint people think an ubuntu forum is the perfect place to ask about mint issues -_- *scnr*
[20:22] <toddy> :D
[20:22] <MarkusH> :D
[20:22] <Lasall> hehe
[20:22] <svij> :D
[20:22] <itnet7> ;-)
[20:22] <SergioMeneses> apollo13, jaja
[20:22] <tomx3> We have had problems to get ubuntu-cds ;-)
[20:22] <czajkowski> *grin*
[20:22] <czajkowski> tomx3: in what way ?
[20:22] <toddy> yes, tomx3 that is correct
[20:22] <SergioMeneses> like what?
[20:23] <toddy> we have order loco-cds and we didn't get this cds
[20:23] <tomx3> czajkowski: juliux said that he has not got an answer to his order
[20:23] <czajkowski> but shipit people mailed recently and chased up on it, did you reply
[20:23] <toddy> and I have order too and I didn't get one cd
[20:23] <czajkowski> who is the team contact ?
[20:23] <czajkowski> and did they request it
[20:24] <toddy> juliux and me
[20:24] <czajkowski> hmm ok
[20:24] <czajkowski> toddy: can you please email shipit after the meeting and cc the loco council and we will chase up on it
[20:24] <czajkowski> I asked teams to do this last meeting also, but have not heard from them
[20:24] <czajkowski> I've no further questions
[20:24] <toddy> yes, i can do that, czajkowski :)
[20:24] <czajkowski> am ready to vote.
[20:25] <huats> ready to vote too
[20:25] <SergioMeneses> ready
[20:25] <xdatap1> ready
[20:25] <itnet7> ready
[20:25] <czajkowski> ok as the bot is not working
[20:25] <JoseeAntonioR> czajkowski: wait
[20:25] <czajkowski> please only coouncil members vote
[20:25] <JoseeAntonioR> I can fix that, I think
[20:25] <huats> +1
[20:25] <czajkowski> JoseeAntonioR: you can kill the last meeting ?
[20:25] <czajkowski> +1
[20:25] <JoseeAntonioR> yeah
[20:26] <czajkowski> well done folks and keep up the good work
[20:26] <JoseeAntonioR> #endmeeting
[20:26] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jul 17 20:26:06 2012 UTC.
[20:26] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-07-17-16.01.moin.txt
[20:26] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-07-17-16.01.html
[20:26] <huats> JoseeAntonioR: thanks !
[20:26] <JoseeAntonioR> np
[20:26] <SergioMeneses> JoseeAntonioR, excellent!
[20:26] <huats> #startmeeting Loco Council 2012 07 12
[20:26] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jul 17 20:26:25 2012 UTC.  The chair is huats. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[20:26] <huats> 'LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GermanTeamReApprovalApplication2012
[20:26] <huats> ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GermanTeamReApprovalApplication2012
[20:27] <huats> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GermanTeamReApprovalApplication2012
[20:27] <JoseeAntonioR> huats: it won't reply
[20:27] <huats> nevermind
[20:27] <czajkowski> ok lets vote again
[20:27] <huats> #vote Ubuntu-de reapproval
[20:27] <meetingology> Please vote on: Ubuntu-de reapproval
[20:27] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[20:27] <czajkowski> +1
[20:27] <meetingology> +1 received from czajkowski
[20:28] <huats> +1
[20:28] <meetingology> +1 received from huats
[20:28] <SergioMeneses> +1
[20:28] <meetingology> +1 received from SergioMeneses
[20:28] <itnet7> +1
[20:28] <meetingology> +1 received from itnet7
[20:28] <xdatap1> +1
[20:28] <meetingology> +1 received from xdatap1
[20:28] <huats> #endvote
[20:28] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Ubuntu-de reapproval
[20:28] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:28] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:28] <huats> Great !
[20:28] <czajkowski> well done folks
[20:28] <huats> congratulations ubuntu-de !
[20:28] <Lasall> \o/
[20:28] <SergioMeneses> congratulations ubuntu-germany
[20:28] <apollo13> thx :)
[20:28] <toddy> thank you for your votes :)
[20:28] <march> Thanks. :)
[20:28] <mfm> yay!
[20:28] <SergioMeneses> apollo13, Fuchs could you send me more information about that project?
[20:28] <hexe25> thx :)
[20:28] <huats> #commands
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[20:28] <itnet7> Congrats!
[20:29] <Fuchs> SergioMeneses: which one, sorry?
[20:29] <Fuchs> And yes, thanks a lot :)
[20:29] <huats> Next Ubuntu Peru
[20:29] <MarkusH> yeha :)
[20:29] <SergioMeneses> Fuchs, Deutschland e.V
[20:29] <apollo13> SergioMeneses: ubuntuusers.de? what are you intrested in?
[20:29] <MarkusH> thanks a lot
[20:29] <SergioMeneses> apollo13, ↑↑↑
[20:29] <huats> They asked us to go next because are in a hurry
[20:29] <JoseeAntonioR> huats: do "#voters czajkowski itnet7 SergioMeneses xdatap1"
[20:29] <huats> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PeruvianTeam/ReapprovalApplication2012
[20:29] <Fuchs> SergioMeneses: I will get someone involved to do so, yes. Mind a short query so we don't disturb here?
[20:29] <huats> #voters czajkowski itnet7 SergioMeneses xdatap1
[20:29] <meetingology> Current voters: SergioMeneses czajkowski itnet7 xdatap1
[20:29] <SergioMeneses> Fuchs, ok
[20:29] <huats> JoseeAntonioR: thanks
[20:30] <JoseeAntonioR> oh, and #voters huats or yoou won't be able to vote
[20:30] <JoseeAntonioR> np
[20:30] <huats> #voters czajkowski itnet7 SergioMeneses xdatap1 huats
[20:30] <meetingology> Current voters: SergioMeneses czajkowski huats itnet7 xdatap1
[20:30] <huats> so is there anyone from ubuntu-pe ?
[20:30] <JoseeAntonioR> Yeah, it's me
[20:30] <JoseeAntonioR> Hello, guys! I'm Jose Antonio Rey, and I'm the team contact for Ubuntu-PE. Our Reapproval Application is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PeruvianTeam/ReapprovalApplication2012. Any questions you have, please ask them, and I'll gladly answer them.
[20:30] <czajkowski> JoseeAntonioR: :)
[20:30] <huats> anyone else ?
[20:30] <SergioMeneses> hello JoseeAntonioR
[20:30] <huats> hey JoseeAntonioR
[20:30] <JoseeAntonioR> hmm, nope, everyone's at work
[20:31] <czajkowski> yay photos!
[20:31] <huats> ok
[20:31] <JoseeAntonioR> :P
[20:31] <huats> Where is nxvl ???
[20:31] <JoseeAntonioR> huats: at work
[20:31] <huats> pfff
[20:31] <SergioMeneses> huats, working
[20:31] <SergioMeneses> I guess
[20:31] <huats> I know he don't want to talk to us
[20:31] <huats> ;)
[20:31] <SergioMeneses> huats, jeje
[20:32] <czajkowski> JoseeAntonioR: thanks for coming, so I was wondering, is there any reason why the loco doesn't use the LTP more ? http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-pe/events/history and is there plans to use it more in the future?
[20:33] <JoseeAntonioR> czajkowski: Yep, we've stopped a few months ago as we had a problem (I will talk about that later, I think you already know it), and all meetings/events were announced via ML
[20:33] <JoseeAntonioR> We're re-starting to use it, we have a couple events in there
[20:33] <czajkowski> JoseeAntonioR: can you elaborate more as to the issues please
[20:34] <JoseeAntonioR> Sure. A few months ago, I came into Ubuntu-PE, and found out our team was pretty inactive. That was because the team leader stopped working. So, I took initiative and got everyone to work again. In that while, the team was fully inactive except by some people making announcements via the ML and some chit-chat in the IRC channel.
[20:35] <SergioMeneses> I testified about that!
[20:35] <JoseeAntonioR> That's why you may find some empty logs in irclogs.ubuntu.com, and, as you said, it seems we've stopped using the LoCo Portal.
[20:35] <czajkowski> JoseeAntonioR: thanks
[20:36] <czajkowski> JoseeAntonioR: so how do you plan to get people involved and keep the activity going?
[20:37] <JoseeAntonioR> czajkowski: well, we've got meetings every month, and we've got a couple activities in the upcoming weeks. When we have talks/booths/conferences/whatever, we announce it via ML and get volunteers to work with us, personally, in getting more people involved with the project, so we keep growing and growing.
[20:37] <czajkowski> JoseeAntonioR: ok
[20:37] <JoseeAntonioR> We're also planning on starting a couple Ubuntu Hours, and contacting local FLOSS teams to talk to them about Ubuntu.
[20:37] <czajkowski> thanks for answering
[20:37] <SergioMeneses> JoseeAntonioR, I wanna know more about the future goals!
[20:38] <JoseeAntonioR> Sure! We've got lots of invitations to different events. There is where we're going to help people to get involved with the project. They are presented to Ubuntu, and told to join the LP team and all resources.
[20:39] <JoseeAntonioR> Once we've done that, we contact them, and start planning what we'll be doing in the meanwhile.
[20:39] <huats> ok great action !
[20:39] <JoseeAntonioR> By now, we've got some plans, as getting Ubuntu in local stores. There are PCs with Ubuntu, but the amount is minimal.\
[20:39] <SergioMeneses> JoseeAntonioR, perfect!
[20:39] <huats> Ok I think we are ready to vote then !
[20:40] <huats> #startvote
[20:40] <JoseeAntonioR> We're also trying to get people involved with translations and development. We offer mentoring if necessary, to get them to reach the member status.
[20:40] <JoseeAntonioR> Sure
[20:40] <huats> #vote
[20:40] <meetingology> Please vote on:
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[20:40] <huats> +1
[20:40] <ghosthost> +1
[20:40] <xdatap1> +1
[20:40] <czajkowski> +!
[20:40] <itnet7> +1
[20:40] <huats> #vote ubuntu-pe reapproval
[20:40] <meetingology> Please vote on: ubuntu-pe reapproval
[20:40] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[20:40] <SergioMeneses> +1
[20:40] <meetingology> +1 received from SergioMeneses
[20:40] <huats> +1
[20:40] <meetingology> +1 received from huats
[20:40] <itnet7> +1
[20:40] <meetingology> +1 received from itnet7
[20:40] <czajkowski> +1
[20:40] <meetingology> +1 received from czajkowski
[20:40] <xdatap1> +1
[20:40] <meetingology> +1 received from xdatap1
[20:41] <huats> #endvote
[20:41] <meetingology> Voting ended on: ubuntu-pe reapproval
[20:41] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:41] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:41] <huats> Ubuntu-pe thanks !
[20:41] <JoseeAntonioR> Thanks, guys!
[20:41] <itnet7> Great job JoseeAntonioR and Team!!
[20:41] <SergioMeneses> JoseeAntonioR, congratulations!
[20:41] <JoseeAntonioR> itnet7: we'll be sure to keep it up.
[20:41] <huats> for your application and congratulations !
[20:41] <xdatap1> JoseeAntonioR, well done
[20:41] <huats> and say hi to nxvl that we miss him !
[20:41] <SergioMeneses> JoseeAntonioR, and thanks for the boot thing ;)
[20:41] <itnet7> :-) \o/ awesome!
[20:41] <JoseeAntonioR> thank you so much guys!
[20:41] <JoseeAntonioR> SergioMeneses: np!
[20:42] <JoseeAntonioR> huats: I'll be sure to make it.
[20:42] <huats> So next is ubuntu Italy !
[20:42] <huats> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ItalianTeam/ReApprovalApplication2012
[20:42] <JoseeAntonioR> I need to run to classes now, see you later guys!
[20:42] <huats> is there anyone here for ubuntu italy ?
[20:42] <_Pixel_> o/
[20:42] <xdatap1> if you're from the Italian team raise your hand
[20:42] <Gwaihir> hello huats!
[20:42] <Gwaihir> o/
[20:42] <czajkowski> Gwaihir: !!
[20:42] <Dolasilla> o/
[20:42] <huats> hello Gwaihir !
[20:42] <Gwaihir> 'evening czajkowski!
[20:42] <totopalma> o/
[20:42] <SergioMeneses> Gwaihir, \o
[20:43] <peppe84> o/
[20:43] <czajkowski> thanks for coming folks!
[20:43] <SergioMeneses> hello ubuntu-italian team!
[20:43] <l3on> hello! :)
[20:43] <czajkowski> always interesting to see what the team is up to
[20:43] <huats> thanks for coming !
[20:43] <huats> so we is about to speak for the team ?
[20:43] <l3on> o/
[20:43] <huats> to present your hard work ?
[20:43] <Gwaihir> huats, that will be me I guess
[20:43] <Gwaihir> fire any questions you have :-)
[20:43] <huats> Gwaihir: you are not even living in Italy !!!
[20:44] <huats> :)
[20:44] <Gwaihir> yeah... blame on me :-)
[20:44] <czajkowski> nice #link http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-it/events/history
[20:44] <huats> I have a question
[20:45] <huats> youj mention the RAI3
[20:45] <Gwaihir> huats, sure
[20:45] <huats> what are your experience with press ?
[20:45] <huats> and medias ?
[20:45] <Gwaihir> yeah, that is an old interview
[20:45] <huats> are you able to communicate on a large scale ?
[20:45] <Gwaihir> experience is ups and lows
[20:45] <czajkowski> 27 Ubuntu members :o WOW
[20:46] <huats> (is t is not a tricky question I am just curious)
[20:46] <Gwaihir> sometimes we are able to reach big names in the press, sometimes it is harder, but we have some good people trying to reach out them as much as we can
[20:46] <huats> ok GwaihirI think we are all facing the same difficulties
[20:46] <Gwaihir> usually for every release we have a release press article that we send out, sometimes it is picked up
[20:47] <Gwaihir> yeah, I guess it is hard, need to make a lot of good contacts, but it is not easy
[20:47] <czajkowski> Gwaihir: does the team face any issues as you're rather large ?
[20:47] <Gwaihir> czajkowski, not really, we are rather large, but the team is well structured
[20:47] <Gwaihir> we have different working teams that are more or less independent
[20:47] <czajkowski> Gwaihir: can you tell us about the structure please?
[20:47] <Gwaihir> so they do not strictly depend on our Council
[20:48] <jokrebel> bye
[20:48] <Gwaihir> we have a similar structure to the international community
[20:48] <Gwaihir> we have a Community Council
[20:48] <Gwaihir> plus small working teams, specialized in their field
[20:49] <Gwaihir> a translation team, a doc team, form admins and staff, developers, testers and so on
[20:49] <Gwaihir> s/form/forum
[20:49] <czajkowski> nods
[20:49] <xdatap1> graphical schema of the italian team: http://www.ubuntu-it.org/comunita
[20:49] <czajkowski> aww that is rather cute
[20:49] <SergioMeneses> xdatap1, nice
[20:49] <czajkowski> Gwaihir: Team reports ?
[20:49] <Gwaihir> they basically sets up themselves as they need to, we just watch other in the beginning
[20:49] <Gwaihir> czajkowski, ah... we actually are not really good at that
[20:49] <czajkowski> Gwaihir: :(
[20:50] <huats> Gwaihir: hum....
[20:50] <huats> I am so disapointed
[20:50] <czajkowski> Gwaihir: is that something perhaps the team could work on
[20:50] <huats> I won't say it aloud since I want to spend nice holidays in italy in 2 weeks
[20:50] <Gwaihir> we tried to have single teams write small reports and then re-wrote them in the team report page, but didn't work nice
[20:50] <huats> but you should work on that
[20:50] <Gwaihir> huats, indeed, we have to
[20:50] <czajkowski> ok am ready to vote
[20:51] <xdatap1> i will retrain my vote, being a italian council member
[20:51] <huats> #vote Ubuntu-it reapproval
[20:51] <meetingology> Please vote on: Ubuntu-it reapproval
[20:51] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[20:51] <huats> +1
[20:51] <meetingology> +1 received from huats
[20:51] <itnet7> +1
[20:51] <meetingology> +1 received from itnet7
[20:51] <czajkowski> +1
[20:51] <meetingology> +1 received from czajkowski
[20:51] <czajkowski> xdatap1: you need to +  0
[20:52] <huats> SergioMeneses: your vote ?
[20:52] <xdatap1> +0
[20:52] <meetingology> +0 received from xdatap1
[20:52] <SergioMeneses> +1
[20:52] <meetingology> +1 received from SergioMeneses
[20:52] <huats> #endvote
[20:52] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Ubuntu-it reapproval
[20:52] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1
[20:52] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:52] <huats> Congratulations ubuntu-it !
[20:52] <czajkowski> Gwaihir: my only thing would be in 2 years time can we see team reports please!
[20:52] <huats> czajkowski: +1 !
[20:52] <SergioMeneses> totally agree with czajkowski
[20:52] <itnet7> Congrats Gwaihir and Ubuntu-it!!
[20:52] <Gwaihir> czajkowski, sure, we will definitely do better on that!
[20:52] <l3on> thanks ! :)
[20:52] <SergioMeneses> and congratulations ubuntu-it
[20:52] <czajkowski> great
[20:52] <Gwaihir> thanks LoCo Council!
[20:52] <czajkowski> thanks you
[20:53] <huats> So the next team is Russia !
[20:53] <huats> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RussianTeam/ReApprovalApplication2012
[20:53] <ghosthost> great!
[20:53] <huats> Is thre anyone from russia ?
[20:53] <ghosthost> yes
[20:53] <Agafonov> o/
[20:53] <yurau> o/
[20:53] <Malamut> yes
[20:53] <huats> Thanks for joining us
[20:53] <huats> Who will speak to present your activity ?
[20:54] <SergioMeneses> hello ubuntu russia!
[20:54] <yurau> Agafonov will
[20:54] <czajkowski> Agafonov: hey there
[20:54] <Agafonov> I was workking to geather application, so yes
[20:54] <huats> Agafonov: great we are listening to you :)
[20:54] <czajkowski> yay photos make me happy
[20:55] <huats> are there any points you want to specifically present ?
[20:55] <czajkowski> #link http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-ru/events/history
[20:55] <Agafonov> please note we are big country and it is really hard to be a loco as a one single team
[20:56] <Agafonov> so there many teams involved in activity
[20:56] <czajkowski> Agafonov: ah ok, so do you think the Russian loco would benefit from being broken up into smaller locos like USA for example ?
[20:56] <yurau> we dont know english )
[20:56] <SergioMeneses> Agafonov, I like the community numbers, but what is Vkontakte LoCo?
[20:56] <Malamut> czajkowski: I don't think so
[20:56] <Agafonov> some are doing things we are really do not know :)
[20:57] <Agafonov> vkontakte is a big russian social network
[20:57] <ghosthost> please, don't say I about all of us, yourau :)
[20:57] <ghosthost> *it
[20:58] <Agafonov> regarding breakage - there are some teams already in your list
[20:58] <Agafonov> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-ru-loco-spb
[20:58] <Agafonov> for example
[20:58] <SergioMeneses> Agafonov, I think so but it is a great number of members
[20:58] <czajkowski> well it would mean areas that are active and went for approved loco would get stuff like cds and other areas that werent could work wtih approved areas and maybe share resoources
[20:58] <Agafonov> most are users :)
[20:59] <Malamut> well, we have some very active teams in some cities, but in general there is not enough active members((
[20:59] <czajkowski> so what do you see as the issues for the russian loco ?
[20:59] <Agafonov> not enough *active* members
[21:00] <czajkowski> ok, and do you have any plans to change this ?
[21:00] <Agafonov> this is a question of leadership more or less...
[21:00] <Malamut> czajkowski: one global team to help regional subteams
[21:00] <Malamut> czajkowski: yes, of cource
[21:00] <czajkowski> Malamut: nods that is what I think would work
[21:01] <czajkowski> anything else people want to add
[21:01] <Malamut> now we are working on our central web resources and some global goals
[21:01] <Malamut> like Russiian Remix
[21:02] <huats> sounds good !
[21:02] <huats> I think we know enough to vote !
[21:02] <huats> #vote Ubuntu Russia reapproval
[21:02] <meetingology> Please vote on: Ubuntu Russia reapproval
[21:02] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[21:02] <huats> +1
[21:02] <meetingology> +1 received from huats
[21:02] <xdatap1> +1
[21:02] <meetingology> +1 received from xdatap1
[21:02] <SergioMeneses> +1
[21:02] <meetingology> +1 received from SergioMeneses
[21:02] <itnet7> +1
[21:02] <meetingology> +1 received from itnet7
[21:03] <huats> Agafonov: where are team reports btw ?
[21:03] <huats> czajkowski: your vote ?
[21:03] <Agafonov> huats: the most valuable question!
[21:04] <czajkowski> +1
[21:04] <meetingology> +1 received from czajkowski
[21:04] <Agafonov> the issue we have this probles since last reapproval...
[21:05] <huats> #endvote
[21:05] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Ubuntu Russia reapproval
[21:05] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[21:05] <meetingology> Motion carried
[21:05] <huats> So ubuntu-ru congrats
[21:05] <huats> but please try to work on that
[21:05] <Agafonov> wow
[21:05] <Agafonov> thanks!
[21:05] <huats> it would be really needed for the reapproval in 2 years !
[21:05] <Malamut> Thanks a lot
[21:05] <SergioMeneses> congratulations ubuntu russian team
[21:05] <huats> (we would have a close look at that)
[21:05] <xdatap1> congratulations guys
[21:06] <Malamut> we'll try to do our best
[21:06] <huats> It is important for you to share your great work with the rest of the world :)
[21:06] <Agafonov> huats: I think we have some powers now!!!
[21:06] <itnet7> Good job Ubuntu-ru Thanks for working on it for the future!!
[21:06] <huats> I think it is it !
[21:06] <ghosthost> thank you
[21:06] <huats> Nothing else on the agenda !
[21:06] <huats> Thanks everyone for joining us !
[21:06] <SergioMeneses> huats, no
[21:06] <SergioMeneses> :D
[21:07] <huats> no ?
[21:07] <xdatap1> thanks everyone
[21:07] <xdatap1> good night
[21:07] <Agafonov> thanks again!
[21:07] <huats> See you all next month !
[21:07] <Fuchs> nighty night :)
[21:07] <SergioMeneses> ok guys tanks for coming
[21:07] <SergioMeneses> I see you
[21:07] <huats> #endmeeting
[21:07] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jul 17 21:07:51 2012 UTC.
[21:07] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-07-17-20.26.moin.txt
[21:07] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-07-17-20.26.html
[21:08] <l3on> bye! :)
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[21:37] <Seveas> (oops, wrong channel)
[21:49] <march> n8 :)
[23:02] <kitties> Those waiting for the meeting - the time has mysteriously changed to the 18th.
[23:02] <kitties> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda
[23:02] <oldos2er> d'oh!
[23:03] <wildmanne39> I thought today was the 18th
[23:26] <JoseAntonioR> #voters everyone