[14:55] <teward> *wavws
[14:55] <teward> waves*
[14:57] <ddstreet> o/
[14:57] <teward> might start a few minutez late, brewing coffee.  but at least I am here this time :P
[15:01] <teward> so myself and ddstreet are here, that's 2 but not enough for quorum
[15:02] <ddstreet> well, i think the coredev application is scheduled for next mtg, so we dont need to address that; i guess we could just run through the previous agenda items to clear out the finished ones?
[15:02] <teward> yep, that's about all we can do
[15:03] <teward> but we need rbasak and rafaeldtinoco for two of them
[15:03] <teward> i'll wait another 3 minutes for any stragglers to catch up
[15:03] <teward> it is Release Push Time though so i assume people are busy xD
[15:09] <teward> right,o so
[15:09] <teward> it'll just be us going through things
[15:09] <teward> at least we can say we had the meeting
[15:09] <teward> now where's my meetingology docs
[15:09] <teward> #startmeeting DMB Meeting
[15:09] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Oct 19 15:09:59 2020 UTC.  The chair is teward. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:10] <teward> #chair teward
[15:10] <meetingology> Current chairs: teward
[15:10] <teward> welcome to the DMB meeting on October 19, 2020
[15:10] <teward> my apologies for being AWOL the past many meetings, things came up
[15:10] <teward> #topic Review of previous action items
[15:11] <teward> #subtopic rafaeldtinoco link team delegation from dmb kb page when reading ddstreet updates (carried over)
[15:11] <rafaeldtinoco> planned doing this today but couldnt tackle it :\
[15:11] <rafaeldtinoco> last carry over (I promise)
[15:11] <teward> #action rafaeldtinoco link team delegation from dmb kb page when reading ddstreet updates (carried over)
[15:11] <meetingology> ACTION: rafaeldtinoco link team delegation from dmb kb page when reading ddstreet updates (carried over)
[15:12] <teward> rafaeldtinoco: good to see you awake though :)  (didn't see you wave to the dmb pings)
[15:12] <teward> #subtopic ddstreet to add Yaru to the desktop set for focal (carried over)
[15:12] <rafaeldtinoco> teward: im having another meeting sorry
[15:12] <teward> rafaeldtinoco: no worries
[15:12] <teward> ddstreet: this is marked as Done?
[15:12] <ddstreet> the yaru one is done
[15:12] <ddstreet> yep
[15:12] <teward> awesome one to remove from the list.
[15:12] <teward> #subtopic ddstreet edubuntu seed <-> pkgset (carried over)
[15:12] <ddstreet> this isn't done, unfortunately; i need to understand the seeding better before i can do it
[15:12] <sil2100> o/
[15:13] <ddstreet> so, please carry over again
[15:13] <sil2100> Sorry for being late
[15:13] <teward> ddstreet: sounds good
[15:13] <teward> sil2100: welcome!
[15:13] <teward> #action ddstreet edubuntu seed <-> pkgset (carried over)
[15:13] <meetingology> ACTION: ddstreet edubuntu seed <-> pkgset (carried over)
[15:13] <teward> #subtopic rbasak to reply to ML re: canonical-oem-metapackages packageset and owning team creation (carried over)
[15:13] <teward> I don't know if rbasak is around at the moment?
[15:14] <teward> if not, i'll carry this over until I hear from rbasak (having some mail delivery problems from Seviper -> my email so i'm missing a lot of messages from the lists, it's my end that's at fault)
[15:14] <teward> #action rbasak to reply to ML re: canonical-oem-metapackages packageset and owning team creation (carried over)
[15:14] <meetingology> ACTION: rbasak to reply to ML re: canonical-oem-metapackages packageset and owning team creation (carried over)
[15:15] <teward> #subtopic ddstreet to announce icey's successful application
[15:15] <teward> this is marked Done on the agenda list
[15:15] <ddstreet> yep, done
[15:15] <teward> #subtopic ddstreet to add icey to the ACL as needed for the openstack packageset
[15:15] <ddstreet> also done
[15:15] <teward> also marked done pending TB?
[15:15] <teward> cool
[15:15] <teward> that takes care of the previous action items
[15:15] <ddstreet> and the TB bug is done as well (the TB performed the acl changes)
[15:15] <teward> nice was going to hit that next
[15:15] <teward> we have no applications for this meeting, and as such no open TB bugs.
[15:16] <teward> #topic Select a chair for next meeting
[15:16] <teward> #action teward to chair next meeting
[15:16] <meetingology> ACTION: teward to chair next meeting
[15:16] <teward> i'll chair it because I owe like 4 chairing sessions at this point
[15:16] <teward> #topic any other business
[15:16] <teward> (skipping other items because there's no items under them)
[15:17] <teward> if there's any other business for the DMB today, feel free to chime in, i'mma leave this open for 10 min otherwise
[15:19] <sil2100> No actions from me
[15:19] <sil2100> Is there anything I can help with from existing action items?
[15:19] <sil2100> I missed the first part of the meeting tho
[15:19] <teward> nope, i think we're good to go
[15:19] <teward> only remaining actions are a holdover from rafaeldtinoco and rbasak's being held over because E:NotHere
[15:20] <rafaeldtinoco> I have one thing
[15:20] <teward> rafaeldtinoco: go ahead :)
[15:20] <rafaeldtinoco> I got lots of packages that should be in openstack pkgset
[15:20] <rafaeldtinoco> its updated by hand...
[15:21] <rafaeldtinoco> (from Chris, which we promoted to PPU last week or so, for the openstack pkgset)
[15:21] <rafaeldtinoco> I still have to finish this, could you add as an action ?
[15:21] <teward> rafaeldtinoco: do you need help with it, or just want me to add it as an action item?
[15:21] <rafaeldtinoco> I have to go over packages to check if they're already in other pkgsets, and decide which one is better to keep
[15:21] <rafaeldtinoco> teward: for now, just an action item pls
[15:21] <rafaeldtinoco> if I need help I'll drop an email
[15:21] <rafaeldtinoco> to our dmb list
[15:21] <rafaeldtinoco> sorry for the late notice in the meeting
[15:22] <teward> "rafaeldtinoco to go through openstack packageset and identify packages in other sets and determine which is best to keep" that sound good?
[15:22] <teward> rafaeldtinoco: no worries, it's why I left AOB open ;)
[15:22] <teward> and didn't end the meeting early
[15:22] <rafaeldtinoco> teward: sounds perfect
[15:22] <teward> we all busy to different degrees
[15:22] <teward> #action rafaeldtinoco to go through openstack packageset and identify packages in other sets and determine which is best to keep
[15:22] <meetingology> ACTION: rafaeldtinoco to go through openstack packageset and identify packages in other sets and determine which is best to keep
[15:22] <teward> I'll make sure that's on the agenda for next meeting
[15:22] <teward> anything else?
[15:23] <rafaeldtinoco> not from me. tks a lot for chairing today
[15:23] <teward> #topic Upcoming Applications
[15:23] <teward> Just a reminder to the rest of the DMB, we have an upcoming coredev application for next meeting, please review the application and be ready to vote on it or come forward with your questions next meeting on Nov. 2.  That meeting will be at 19:00 UTC
[15:23] <teward> give or take a few minutes if I need to get coffee ;)
[15:24] <teward> and with that, I have nothing more for the DMB today.
[15:24] <teward> rafaeldtinoco: you're welcome.  I owe at least 4 more chairing sessions because I've been awol :)
[15:24] <rafaeldtinoco> nah, its all good, glad you're back
[15:24] <teward> #endmeeting
[15:24] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Oct 19 15:24:48 2020 UTC.
[15:24] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-10-19-15.09.moin.txt
[15:24] <teward> thanks for coming to the meeting
[15:24] <rafaeldtinoco> o/
[15:24] <teward> rafaeldtinoco: well, part of the problem was work
[15:25] <teward> but now i keep a reminder in my work calendar
[15:25] <teward> so it's always blocked out :-p
[15:25] <rafaeldtinoco> =)
[15:25] <sil2100> o/
[15:25] <teward> the other problem was 'rona quarantine induced antisocialism
[15:25] <teward> :p


[11:31] <alkisg> Hi, in Ubuntu 18.04, several schools reported having black screen with i915 after recent updates. With a quick look, I couldn't pinpoint anything, and booting with an older kernel didn't fix the issue. Has anyone reported this?
[11:32] <alkisg> systemctl --failed shows gpu-manager and lightdm as failed; but Xorg.0.log doesn't show any errors.
[11:37] <ricotz> alkisg, maybe the mesa hwe update?
[11:37] <ricotz> (and libdrm)
[11:39] <tjaalton> kernel
[11:39] <tjaalton> 4.15.0-44 was buggy
[11:40] <alkisg> ricotz: all my schools are using 18.04.1 fully updated, which means no hwe stack,
[11:41] <alkisg> tjaalton: they have the issue with -45 as well
[11:41] <ricotz> alkisg, mesa 18.2.2-0ubuntu1~18.04.1 is basically an hwe update
[11:42] <alkisg> Ah, that goes to people without the hwe stack too? That might be it, then
[11:42] <alkisg> I even tried with <IP_ADDRESS>.23 and it didn't make any difference
[11:42] <ricotz> yes, together with libdrm
[11:43] <ricotz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdrm/+bug/1798597
[11:43] <alkisg> Nomodeset did seem to workaround the problem; I'm not sure what this does to i915-based cards
[11:43] <tjaalton> disables everythign
[11:43] <tjaalton> doesn't even load i915
[11:43] <tjaalton> try 18.2.8 from the x-updates ppa
[11:44] <alkisg> Thank you, will do tomorrow, when I'll be able to contact one of those schools again
[11:44] <tjaalton> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/ubuntu/updates
[11:44] <tjaalton> it's on the sru queue
[11:44] <tjaalton> as well
[11:44] <ricotz> alkisg, may I ask which intel gpu fails?
[11:45] <alkisg> Let me see if I kept the model in the irc chat...
[11:45]  * ricotz didn't update ltsp systems to bionic yet, but is planning to
[11:46] <alkisg> From? 16.04?
[11:46] <alkisg> 18.04 is much more stable than 16.04, if you use the greek schools ppa
[11:46] <ricotz> yes, currently on xenial
[11:46] <alkisg> I think this was the xorg log, booted with nomodeset: https://termbin.com/vz2e
[11:46] <alkisg>  srv-6gym-chalk, yes, that was the one
[11:47] <tjaalton> doesn't show anything
[11:48] <alkisg> Ugh yeah nomodeset hides the model :(
[11:48] <tjaalton> about the hw
[11:48] <tjaalton> lspci would
[11:51] <alkisg> (unfortnately I don't have that now), PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:1912:1462:7996 rev 6, => https://pci-ids.ucw.cz/read/PC/8086/1912 => Name: Intel® HD Graphics 530
[11:52] <tjaalton> skylake