[12:00] <pashaw> Unity,   mozilla is firefox big brother
[12:00] <wizardjames> Unity,  mozilla is a email and webbroswer , were firefox is purely for web broswer
[12:01] <trappist> tjb13: I don't have much use for apm stuff, so I don't know.  I was just prompting you to be more specific so that if anyone does know, you might hear something.
[12:02] <wizardjames> rar command for vobsub compression..  what do i put for this?
[12:02] <Unity> pashaw, can you elaborate on big brother?
[12:02] <Unity> pashaw, is there anything else i should know other than what wizardjames said?
[12:02] <stevr1it> hi
[12:02] <gnomefreak_away> FF was taken from mozilla browser if im not mistaken FF is lighter than mozilla
[12:03] <stevr1it> can you help me? skype is installed but deos not work
[12:03] <tjb13> trappist, thanks, well I was trying to be unspecific for the simple reason that I'm looking for a database of that sort of information like a wiki
[12:03] <gnomefreak_away> ubotu tell stevr1it about skype
[12:03] <ZeroIRC> Ok, I am so damned confused, how do you do the make command
[12:03] <gnomefreak_away> make
[12:03] <nalioth> ZeroIRC: you need to install 'build-essential'
[12:03] <tjb13> is there a difinitive guide for getting ati cards to work... like on laptops
[12:04] <trappist> tjb13: https://wiki.ubuntu.com is pretty great
[12:04] <ZeroIRC> No, like where do I type it
[12:04] <gnomefreak_away> !ati
[12:04] <ubotu> methinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[12:04] <tjb13> its seems like there are a lot of guids all different
[12:04] <tjb13> thanks
[12:04] <ZeroIRC> When it ask me to do things with makefile
[12:04] <UbuntuNewbie> gnomefreak you are not mistaken also mozilla has email and html editing facility
[12:04] <gst_> hmm.. is there any other package than 'hotplug' which i need for hotplugging functionality? i upgraded udev and some other pkgs (and removed hotplug because it conflicts with the new udev) and was unable to use my ipw2200 card. after this i downgraded udev again and re-installed hot-plug but the ipw2200 doesn't work yet. it seems that the firmware doesn't get loaded.
[12:05] <gst_> i even tried to down-grade all the packages to breezy with apt-pinning but this doesn't helped
[12:05] <freysteinn> I have a problem with the Gnome panels. Does anybody know how I can fix this problem? (http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20833)
[12:06] <UbuntuNewbie>  also if I remember correctly Mozilla foundation is not updating Mozilla with new features but is concentrating on firefox
[12:06] <nalioth> ZeroIRC: you'll unpack your source tarball, and cd into the directory it made when unpacking
[12:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ZeroIRC about compile
[12:06] <nalioth> ZeroIRC: read the wiki for further info
[12:06] <ZeroIRC> ok
[12:07] <tjb13> see thats what I'm talking about though, why are there two different guides
[12:07] <pashaw> Unity,   firefox is mozilla with all the extra crap removed basically
[12:07] <tjb13> which was is correct
[12:07] <nalioth> ZeroIRC: just keep in mind to use 'checkinstall' intead of 'make install' (you may need to install checkinstall)
[12:07] <tjb13> and which one is better
[12:07] <gnomefreak_away> gksudo doesnt work for me i think its crashing :(
[12:07] <cloudeh> hi guys. I need some help :(
[12:07] <sagarp> how do i upgrade breezy to dapper?
[12:08] <gnomefreak_away> sagarp, you try not to
[12:08] <Unity> pashaw, ok thx
[12:08] <wizardjames> dapper is very unstable
[12:08] <gnomefreak_away> sagarp, dapper is gonna be realeased in april
[12:08] <sagarp> is it still too developmental?
[12:08] <cloudeh> I was introduced to linux by my friend storm. But i can't install it. the partitioner won't work. I have 25GB free space but the partitioner will only let me resize my HDD by a few MB. I've tried defragmentation but that didn't help.
[12:08] <sagarp> i see
[12:08] <wizardjames> but
[12:08] <wizardjames> if u dont nothing to lose and just wana mess around
[12:09] <tjb13> ok here is an easy one, how do i get emacs to not open in x windows
[12:09] <tjb13> just stay in the console
[12:09] <nalioth> tjb13: run it from the console
[12:09] <gst_> tjb13: emacs -nw
[12:09] <pashaw> cloudeh,   freee space inside another partition  or  unformatted sitting there?
[12:09] <gnomefreak_away> emacs is its own console no?
[12:09] <cloudeh> free space inside another partition
[12:09] <gerald-volt> is this the correct syntax for a config file whose direcotory has a space in it?
[12:09] <wizardjames> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id2525404
[12:09] <gerald-volt> music_directory    "/media/windows/Documents\ and\ Settings/Gerald/Shared"
[12:10] <pashaw> cloudeh,   youll need to make backups  then  resize that partition
[12:10] <cloudeh> What do you mean? (sorry i'm new to everything)
[12:10] <pashaw> cloudeh,   your friend should come over and help you seriously   you could lose everything
[12:11] <cloudeh> o.o
[12:11] <cloudeh> My friend lives a long way away >_>
[12:11] <pashaw> cloudeh,   buy beer and pizza have a linux weekend
[12:11] <cloudeh> xDDDD
[12:12] <cloudeh> But what confuses me. Is you mentioned backup. I already have a hidden partition called backup. Is that what you mean?
[12:12] <osh_> any chance that gam_server will be fixed soon? It eats memory like nothing I've ever seen. I have to kill it daily to keep it from putting all my regular programs swapped out.
[12:12] <pashaw> cloudeh,   seriously  resizing has risks   like losing everything
[12:12] <xbmodder> hey
[12:12] <Shadyman> Anyone had any luck with WPA_Supplicant?
[12:12] <cloudeh> I don't mind. I don't have anything useful lol
[12:12] <pashaw> cloudeh,   i mena if the resize goes bad  the partition will be erased
[12:12] <cloudeh> But then it will become free space wont it?
[12:13] <pashaw> cloudeh,   everything on it also   you can use the ubuntu liveCD or knoppix  or buy partitionmagic
[12:13] <cloudeh> I've tried partition magic
[12:13] <cloudeh> It didn't work.
[12:13] <ElitePete> is it smart to upgrade to dapper at this point?
[12:13] <gerald-volt> is this the correct syntax for a config file?
[12:13] <gerald-volt> music_directory    "/media/windows/Documents\ and\ Settings/Gerald/Shared"
[12:14] <cloudeh> Windows just booted up and said i was missing some sort of file.
[12:14] <gnomefreak_away> no
[12:14] <ElitePete> gnomefreak_away, was that directed at me?
[12:14] <gnomefreak_away> not even close to stable
[12:14] <gnomefreak_away> yes
[12:14] <ElitePete> kk
[12:14] <ElitePete> ty
[12:14] <cloudeh> Wait hold on. If i use knoppix. Will i be able to resize the partition from there. My friend says i can but..
[12:14] <aresius> hi
[12:14] <pashaw> cloudeh,   yes  same tools
[12:15] <Shadyman> gnomefreak_away: I tried running the livecd, and it crashed.
[12:15] <aresius> i installed ubuntu. its great
[12:15] <pashaw> aresius,  hello
[12:15] <tjb13> gst_, thanks!
[12:15] <Shadyman> aresius: Great! :D
[12:15] <cloudeh> So if i use knoppix i can resize the partition from there and then install ubuntu afterwards?
[12:15] <pashaw> cloudeh,   yes
[12:15] <pashaw> cloudeh,   just remember my warning  no going back  if it fails
[12:16] <gnomefreak_away> cloudeh, why not use ubuntu cd to resize partions?
[12:16] <aresius> but i have problems with my keyboard. i use mac
[12:16] <cloudeh> Ok nice one. Actually, one last tWell i ordered some
[12:16] <cloudeh> but never recieved them
[12:16] <cloudeh> Well i ordered some**
[12:16] <pashaw> gnomefreak_away,   his friend might know knoppix resing better to help him
[12:17] <cloudeh> I just downloaded the iso from the site.
[12:17] <pashaw> gnomefreak_away,  recovery tools
[12:17] <noway> I just installed Xubuntu (Ubuntu with XFCE) and the screen is too big. When I move the mouse to the sides it scrolls. I'm sure the resolution is right and vertical/horizontal refresh rates too (that's what I've used succesfully before) so I have no idea what the problem might be. Any suggestions?
[12:17] <gnomefreak_away> cloudeh, it takes 6-8 weeks you can see where it is if you sign into ship-it
[12:17] <Shadyman> noway: Check your Xorg.conf
[12:17] <march> hi@all
[12:17] <cloudeh> i ordered it 8 months ago >_>
[12:17] <Shadyman> march: Hi
[12:17] <gnomefreak_away> pashaw, i thought knoppix and ubuntu use same tools?
[12:17] <gnomefreak_away> cloudeh, well start from oct
[12:18] <gnomefreak_away> thats 2 months
[12:18] <Shadyman> cloudeh: It's not coming lol
[12:18] <selinium_> Hi all, I have had some apache updates waiting to install for a couple of days, but there is nothing in the changes log for it. Any ideas why this may be?
[12:18] <pashaw> gnomefreak_away,   they do  but his friend will help him
[12:18] <gnomefreak_away> pashaw, ah ok
[12:18] <cloudeh> If my friend comes.
[12:18] <pashaw> gnomefreak_away,   and the ubuntu liveCd has an ntfs bug  few people have run into
[12:18] <cloudeh> Yeah!
[12:18] <cloudeh> Thats the thing
[12:18] <cloudeh> the partition im trying to resize is NTFS
[12:19] <gnomefreak_away> cloudeh, they the cds wont be shipped till after the release so you would count from oct
[12:19] <cloudeh> So even though i ordered them that long ago they will arrive 6-8 weeks from oct?
[12:19] <gnomefreak_away> cloudeh, yes its not released how are they going to burn it?
[12:20] <cloudeh> Wait what do you mean its not released.
[12:20] <cloudeh> my friends got theirs months ago
[12:20] <gnomefreak_away> cloudeh, what version did you order?
[12:20] <gnomefreak_away> breezy 5.10?
[12:21] <gnomefreak_away> 5.10 was not complete until oct 13th
[12:21] <cloudeh> i'm not sure
[12:21] <HymnToLife> cloudeh > for NTFS resizing, I recommend DiskDrake
[12:21] <cloudeh> DiskDrake
[12:21] <cloudeh> IS that free?
[12:21] <pashaw> cloudeh,   if you have cable or dsl  just download the iso
[12:21] <cloudeh> I have downloaded the iso
[12:21] <HymnToLife> if you can get your hands on a Mandrake/Mandriva CD
[12:21] <ompaul> HymnToLife, - this is not #mandriva
[12:21] <cloudeh> Thats what i was using to try to rezise the partitons.
[12:22] <HymnToLife> ompaul > maybe but diskdrake is by far the best tool for that
[12:22] <edgarin> Hi where is the repository
[12:22] <edgarin> of ZNES??
[12:22] <aresius> ah. no problem now! ;)
[12:22] <cloudeh> Wait i'm lost. So i should get diskdrake and resize my NTFS partition?
[12:22] <HymnToLife> aresius > Rhapsody fucking rule ;)
[12:23] <aresius> hey!
[12:23] <ompaul> HymnToLife, language please
[12:23] <cloudeh> Then i assume my ubuntu CD will take the free space right?
[12:23] <ompaul> cloudeh, yes
[12:23] <cloudeh> Ok.
[12:23] <aresius> in the name of the holy thunderforce!
[12:23] <pashaw> cloudeh, we mentioned 3 different ways of doing the same task  jot em down and talk to your friend
[12:23] <aresius> *sing*
[12:23] <cloudeh> Ok
[12:23] <cloudeh> Those three are.
[12:23] <cloudeh> Diskdrake
[12:23] <cloudeh> Knoppix
[12:23] <selinium_> edgarin, do yuo mean zsnes?
[12:23] <cloudeh> and what was the third?
[12:23] <Shadyman> !enter
[12:23] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:23] <ompaul> aresius, #ubuntu-offtopic and enjoy the conversation
[12:24] <pashaw> cloudeh, Ubuntu liveCD
[12:24] <hydroksyde> you could boot live ubuntu and use GParted
[12:24] <aresius> ok.
[12:24] <cloudeh> ok hold on
[12:24] <edgarin> selinium_ I want play games of snes
[12:24] <cloudeh> let me just jot these down like he said
[12:24] <edgarin> but in my repositories
[12:24] <edgarin> not exist
[12:24] <edgarin> the package
[12:24] <aresius> its my first linux.
[12:24] <edgarin> called
[12:24] <edgarin> zsnes
[12:24] <edgarin> breezy
[12:24] <selinium_> edgarin  sudo apt-get install zsnes
[12:24] <aresius> and i need to talk it out ;)
[12:24] <pashaw> edgarin,   please dont spam   use longer lines
[12:25] <aresius> n8
[12:25] <jack_> Hello! apt-get has a gpg signature failure! Do you know what is wrong? Or where I can look?
[12:25] <cloudeh> and the live cd
[12:25] <paquette> hello
[12:25] <ompaul> zsmes is in multiverse
[12:25] <selinium_> edgarin, if you want just use my nick I and I will see it!
[12:25] <cloudeh> I assume i can download the ISO.
[12:25] <cloudeh> Right?
[12:25] <pashaw> cloudeh,   yes
[12:25] <cafuego> !return
[12:25] <Shadyman> cloudeh: yep
[12:25] <ubotu> cafuego: I give up, what is it?
[12:25] <HymnToLife> jack- > try running apt-get update with an empty sources.list
[12:25] <cafuego> !enter
[12:25] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:25] <HymnToLife> it did the trick for me
[12:25] <cloudeh> ok, thanks for your patience ^^
[12:26] <pashaw> cloudeh,    good luck its alot of fun
[12:26] <cloudeh> So my friend says lol
[12:26] <cloudeh> By the way, do you know my friend, he's called stormX, apparently he comes in here alot.
[12:27] <pashaw> cloudeh,    600+ people at any time of day  tough to learn em all :)
[12:27] <ompaul> cloudeh, conversations take place in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:27] <cloudeh> @ompaul, sorry. I was just leaving ^^
[12:27] <jocke1s> Hi all. When I click a link in thunderbird (in a mail) my web browser doesn't start. Any ideas?
[12:28] <nalioth> jocke1s: how long has it been since you resterted?
[12:28] <jack_> HymnToLife, and than? move sources.list back?
[12:28] <Hobbsee> jocke1s: there's a thread on ubuntuforums.org about this
[12:28] <jocke1s> Been like that for a few restarts
[12:28] <jocke1s> at least
[12:28] <svu> anyone expriencing problem with vfat on external devices in ubuntu?
[12:28] <jocke1s> Hobbsee: Know what to search for?
[12:29] <HymnToLife> jack- > yep
[12:29] <wizardjames> svu what are you trying to do, whats the prob?
[12:29] <HymnToLife> and reupdate
[12:29] <Hobbsee> jocke1s: looking for it...
[12:29] <DRK13> hi internets ^__^
[12:30] <svu> wizardjames, I am inserting ipod. On FC4 it is detected and can be mount by the user without any problems. On ubuntu I constantly get error messages - and have to use "mount -t vfat ..."
[12:30] <toya_> what's up ppl
[12:31] <TooEarly> I installed ubuntu orginally, and i just downloaded all the KDE packages, now how do I get ubuntu to load KDE as the default?
[12:31] <Hobbsee> jocke1s: all i remember, is that it's a post written by asiyu, and has the words firefox and thunderbird in it <-- and i'm sure i'm spelling that name wrong
[12:31] <cafuego> downloaded? how?
[12:31] <jocke1s> Hobbsee: Great I will look for it :) Thanks
[12:31] <TooEarly> syaptic
[12:31] <Hobbsee> jocke1s: aysiu, it is
[12:32] <cafuego> TooEarly: The installer should have asked if you wanted to start kdm or gdm at bootup. Which did you pick?
[12:32] <TooEarly> i put kdm
[12:32] <alan__> can anyone tell me how to get konqueror to see a partion that is ext3 and exists at /dev/Ubuntu/root /home   ?
[12:32] <tjb13> guys, what is the ubuntu recommended way of getting wpa to work
[12:33] <Hobbsee> ah, well i found the link lol...
[12:33] <cafuego> TooEarly: Then you should magically log into kdm when booting.
[12:33] <TooEarly> cafuego, i chose kdm, was that what i was supposed to choose?
[12:33] <toya_> anyone uses fvwm?
[12:33] <TooEarly> oh ok
[12:33] <TooEarly> kool
[12:33] <edgarin> who is the repository of zsnes??
[12:33] <tjb13> and.... why isn't firefox 1.5 available yet
[12:33] <cafuego> TooEarly: If you want to run it now, logout, then choose 'kde' from the sessions list.
[12:35] <jack_> HymnToLife, now it's complaining about cdrom:// that it can't find.. ?!
[12:35] <braniff> how do i upgrade the kernel on ubuntu using synaptic ??
[12:36] <noway> Earlier I wrote that the screen was too big and scrolled when moving the mouse to the sides. After restarting for the second time it got better, not it only scrolls sideways. Still, the resolution and refresh rates are (I'm pretty sure) as they should be. Here's my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/480867 Any ideas, or should I try to restart again (third time's a charm ;)
[12:36] <b-served> new ubuntu user here .. hey all ;)
[12:36] <noway> Oh, and I'm using XFCE, btw
[12:36] <randy> algun espaol aqu?
[12:36] <randy> XD
[12:37] <niffe> how i can listen mp3 music with linux?
[12:37] <Hobbsee> !mp3
[12:37] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:37] <nalioth> !es
[12:37] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:37] <randy> ok, thankz
[12:37] <HymnToLife> jack- > then you have a cdrom line somewhere in your source.list
[12:37] <HymnToLife> !repos
[12:37] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[12:37] <HymnToLife> use those
[12:39] <NaAani`> q4 1on1 msgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg amsg
[12:39] <tuv> big finding: wpa_supplicant wpa2 does not work with breezy's ipw2200 kernel modules. one has to upgrade ipw2200 from 1.0.6 to 1.0.8 for wpa_supplicant to work
[12:40] <alan__> how can i see the partition on the second drive in gui ?
[12:40] <nalioth> alan__: use gparted
[12:41] <alan__> but how can i see its contents  ie: copy the files?
[12:41] <alan__> konqueror doesnt seem to be able to mount it
[12:41] <nalioth> alan__: what kind of partition is it?
[12:41] <alan__> ext3
[12:42] <alan__> i believe
[12:42] <nalioth> alan__: adding it to your fstab should do it
[12:42] <alan__> do i nano fstab?
[12:42] <alan__> what exactly do i add?
[12:42] <nalioth> alan__: in your console, "man mount"
[12:43] <nalioth> alan__: i'd imagine you may be able to 'monkey see, monkey do' from other lines in the fstab
[12:43] <alan__> its in /dev/Ubuntu/root for some reason
[12:44] <CastUbuntu> hello
[12:44] <CastUbuntu> Dit is mijn eerste ervaring met X-chat...
[12:45] <CastUbuntu> kan iemand mijn ff wegwijs maken?
[12:45] <tjb13> hey is there a way to get flash working in firefox
[12:45] <mwe> !nl
[12:45] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[12:45] <Knorrie> :P
[12:45] <mwe> tjb13: yes, install flash player plugin
[12:45] <tjb13> ok
[12:46] <mwe> tjb13: asuming it's ia32
[12:46] <gerald-volt> anyone know why nothing shows up in the browse screen of ncmpc?
[12:46] <tjb13> is there a way to play mp3's from itunes on your windows partition (mines already mounted) and rythmbox doesn't want to do it
[12:46] <tjb13> mwe, yeah
[12:46] <tjb13> mwe, i use to use debian a while back is it still apt-cache search?
[12:47] <mwe> !mp3
[12:47] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:47] <Knorrie> CastUbuntu: /join #ubuntu-nl
[12:47] <gst_> i think i found the reason for my ipw2200 problem. when i modprobe the module hotplug isn't called (but hotplug should load the firmware).
[12:47] <gst_> now the only question is why it isn't called :/
[12:47] <mwe> tjb13: yeah. I believe it's mozilla-flash something
[12:47] <Shadyman> the ubuntu wpa_supplicant package doesn't come with wpa_gui?
[12:48] <mcjerry> Anyone running vmware on ubuntu?
[12:49] <ptlo> yup
[12:49] <mwe> mcjerry: yeah
[12:50] <mcjerry> mwe: Host system is Ubuntu Linux, Vitural Machine is Knoppix Live CD, Host System is 800x600 depth 24, and VMware gives me error as follows
[12:50] <mcjerry> Unable to find an appropriate host video mode.
[12:50] <mcjerry> Adding the guest mode to the 'display' subsection of the 'screen' section of your /etc/X11/XF86Config and restarting X is likely to help
[12:50] <mcjerry> I am lost on this......exactly what settings do i need to add to my xorg.conf file to be able to run the Knoppix VM in Ful Screen
[12:51] <gst_> could anyone please post the content of the file /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug - tnx.
[12:52] <mwe> mcjerry: look at the other entries and I think you'll be able to figure it out
[12:52] <mcjerry> gst_ what kernel you running and what distro.....breezy or Dapper
[12:53] <gst_> mcjerry: breezy - i compiled & installed some of the debs (udev) from dapper and then downgraded again to breezy. now my hotplug system is broken :/
[12:54] <tjb13> so i'm guessing you can't play itunes music in linux right?
[12:54] <nalioth> tjb13: m4p files cannot be played, no.
[12:54] <mcjerry> mwe: I tried, but where it says add guest mode to 'display' subsection confuses me.....i have 6 display subsections and use mode 24, but don't know the syntax to add guest mode....can you point me to a site with xorg.conf i could refer too
[12:55] <tjb13> nalioth, thats really gay
[12:55] <tjb13> nalioth, thanks
[12:55] <nalioth> tjb13: read between the lines, dude.
[12:55] <Newone> is there also a dutch room to get some support?
[12:55] <nalioth> Newone: as in netherlands?
[12:55] <tjb13> no yeah i know
[12:55] <mcjerry> gst_: i suspected such.....i am in Dapper now, so i will be no help...
[12:55] <tjb13> you can covert them to mp3
[12:55] <tjb13> or whatever
[12:56] <Newone> in het nederlands ja...
[12:56] <nalioth> !nl
[12:56] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[12:56] <puptent> Can mp4 be converted to mp3 within Linux?
[12:56] <Newone> thanx
[12:56] <Shadyman> !restrictedformats
[12:56] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:56] <nalioth> puptent: i'm sure it can, but the sound quality will suck
[12:56] <gerald-volt> mpd --create-db
[12:56] <gerald-volt> cannot init suplementary groups of user gerald: Operation not permitted
[12:57] <puptent> What is a good player? I'm using xmms but it sounds...tinny. Sound card is fine. Audigy 2 ZS
[12:57] <mcjerry> gst_: would it be possible to extract /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug from install disc?
[12:58] <puptent> Anything like Foobar2000 for linux?
[12:58] <veriz> can anyone help me plz? Where i can set dhclient to get his connection automatecally?
[12:58] <mcjerry> mwe: could you pm your xorg.conf so i could see the changes you made?
[12:59] <mirak> hi
[12:59] <mirak> I am trying to install dapper but there is a problem with cupsys-driver-gimpprint
[01:00] <mirak> anyone know the fix ?
[01:00] <nalioth> mirak: dapper is in development. it's not guaranteed to work at all
[01:00] <C_J_Pro> well, not for a couple months at least
[01:00] <Lord_Athur> with ubuntu 5.04,  how can I delete mails (using the mail program of the terminal)?
[01:00] <gui_> pra ir pro br como faz??
[01:01] <Shadyman> Uhh?
[01:01] <nalioth> !br
[01:01] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[01:01] <C_J_Pro> No hablo espanol
[01:01] <C_J_Pro> o
[01:01] <Shadyman> C_J_Pro: Too slow ;)
[01:01] <C_J_Pro> >_<
[01:02] <mirak> nalioth: I know but I can't even install ubuntu-dekstop
[01:02] <Lord_Athur> with ubuntu 5.04,  how can I delete mails (using the mail program of the terminal)?
[01:02] <mirak> nalioth: I am doing it from a chroot. I just can't fix that one
[01:02] <Shadyman> Lord_Athur: try "man mail"
[01:02] <Lord_Athur>
[01:02] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Lord_Athur about repeat
[01:02] <Lord_Athur> ok
[01:02] <gst_> mcjerry: i just fixed the problem by doing: echo /sbin/hotplug >/proc/sys/kernel/hotplug
[01:02] <gst_> mcjerry: although i don't know if it was /sbin/hotplug before
[01:02] <gst_> strange ...
[01:02] <gst_> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8417
[01:02] <gst_> ==> seems that others had this problem too - strange that it worked before without problems.
[01:03] <Shadyman> whoa
[01:03] <Shadyman> !enter
[01:03] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[01:03] <Lord_Athur> byw
[01:03] <Lord_Athur> bye
[01:03] <nalioth> gst_: please do not paste in here
[01:03] <mirak> nalioth: anybody that try dapper should face that
[01:03] <nalioth> mirak: it depends on the time one attempts to insall it
[01:03] <n0dl|slack> whats the package to use ssh?
[01:03] <n0dl|slack> sshd>
[01:03] <n0dl|slack> ?
[01:03] <mcjerry> gst: cool....now i gotta figure out this vmware issue
[01:03] <nalioth> n0dl|slack: install "ssh" pkg
[01:04] <D1-> does anyone know how to find out how fast my memory is running?
[01:04] <regplus> Can anybody help me how to increase refresh rate?
[01:04] <Shadyman> D1-: Yes.
[01:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell regplus about fixres
[01:04] <mirak> Nakkel: mmm ?
[01:04] <D1-> Shadyman: how can I do it?
[01:04] <mirak> nalioth: the weather you mean ?
[01:04] <Shadyman> D1-: Oh. To do it? Hmm
[01:04] <n0dl|slack> nalioth, i have that package but i get this message:  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...   [fail]
[01:05] <Shadyman> D1-: System > Administration > Device Manager ?
[01:05] <nalioth> n0dl|slack: does it tell you why?
[01:05] <n0dl|slack> nope
[01:05] <n0dl|slack> no reason
[01:05] <D1-> yeah, I dont know if theres anything similar to cpuid in linux
[01:06] <Kovecses> nalioth, you are the man.. i will be good i swear
[01:06] <yahaa_swe> off topic: what is the correct term to use for a liberal (politics) with a socialistic view; socialliberal, liberal-socialist or...?
[01:06] <nalioth> yahaa_swe: join #ubuntu-offtopic for that please
[01:07] <jblack> democrat
[01:07] <koro> I keep having troubles with filenames with accents... I tried various locales and either the accented chars show up as "?" or disappear. What could I do to fix that?
[01:07] <mirak> nalioth: I made the script return true
[01:07] <nalioth> mirak: good show!
[01:07] <mirak> nalioth: tada !
[01:07] <crimsun> koro: does foo.UTF-8 not suffice?
[01:08] <koro> crimsun: nope
[01:08] <crimsun> koro: what's $LANG currently?
[01:08] <jblack> ppp stopped working for me in dapper. Anybody know what's up?
[01:09] <mirak> jblack: there is no support, go to hell
[01:09] <mirak> jblack: :D
[01:09] <mwe> koro: and you're using a terminal emulator that supports unicode?
[01:09] <veriz> hi nalioth :)
[01:09] <Kovecses> jblack, why did you decide to go to dapper
[01:09] <jblack> Hmmm.
[01:09] <nalioth> veriz: howdy
[01:10] <koro> mwe: i have those problems from the gnome terminal
[01:10] <jblack> Kovesses: Because of the problems with sonys in breezy.
[01:10] <koro> and from the virtual consoles
[01:10] <koro> TERM is set to linux there
[01:10] <Kovecses> jblack, oh
[01:10] <mwe> koro: Then that's probably not the problem
[01:10] <tjb13> is there a good guide to getting sleep to work with ubuntu
[01:10] <tjb13> ?
[01:10] <jblack> Which have ironically worsened. :(
[01:10] <BlackEntity> Yo
[01:10] <Kovecses> tjb13, what do you mean... sleep works
[01:11] <noway> Trying again.. I'm using XFCE and the screen size is about 3-4 centimeters too wide and when I move the mouse to the sides it scrolls. I'm using the same resolution and refresh rates as I've used in the past and it's worked fine then. My xorg.conf is at http://pastebin.com/480867 and I have no idea what might be wrong. Any suggestions? Any at all?
[01:11] <Kovecses> tjb13, u mean like sleep the command
[01:11] <jblack> nalioth: I'm not sure why you banned marek.
[01:11] <BlackEntity> Trying to install amd 64 kernel headers; Depends: kernel-kbuild-2.6-3  but it is not installable
[01:11] <mcjerry> does anyone use vmware that could pm me their xorg.conf file to reference
[01:11] <jblack> nalioth Would you mind discussing that privately for a moment?
[01:11] <mwe> noway: it's the virtual desktop stuff I guess
[01:12] <BlackEntity> Now what would one do to resolve this dependency?
[01:12] <Kovecses> mcjerry, you want to know if when using vmware... the full screen does not work?
[01:12] <mcjerry> yes
[01:12] <tjb13> Kovecses, on my thinkpad t43, closing the lid does nothing
[01:12] <Kovecses> tjb13, ahh ,... see thats a different sleep
[01:12] <tjb13> as does hitting the sleep sequence on my keyboard
[01:12] <tjb13> hah
[01:12] <noway> mwe: Hm, that doesn't really tell me anything :)
[01:12] <tjb13> uh oh
[01:13] <crimsun> tjb13: are you using Breezy?
[01:13] <tjb13> yeah
[01:13] <Selekta> hitting the sleep button on my keyboard makes the xchat window flash
[01:13] <mcjerry> Kovecses: yes, i think i need to add some subsections in xorg.conf, but i would like to reference xorg.conf from working install
[01:13] <BlackEntity> Hitting function keys on my HP laptop locks up X.
[01:13] <crimsun> tjb13: did you edit /etc/default/acpi-support ?
[01:14] <tjb13> crimsun, no, is there a guide somewhere on how to do all this?
[01:14] <BlackEntity> IE front side volume control
[01:14] <crimsun> tjb13: perhaps, I don't know of one. Make sure you check wiki/LaptopTestingTeam
[01:14] <noway> mwe: Ah, I'm reading about "desktop scrolling" on Wikipedia now. Thanks. I guess it's a feature, heh :)
[01:14] <signbarn> does anyone know why the fonts are so ugly in apps like dvd::rip, the xmms settings, etc? or does anyone know how to fix that?
[01:14] <toya_> hey ppl
[01:14] <KasperTech> Hmm "DHCPDISCOVER on <IP_ADDRESS> interval (random number)" is all that I get when I try to get my wireless network to work with "ifup eth1", how come?
[01:15] <toya_> i am trying to assign a swap partition (i didn't when installing)
[01:15] <BlackEntity> Anyways I need to install the kernel headers for an AMD 64 generic kernel and I am getting a loop of dependencies, I have already checked my sources and apt-get updated
[01:15] <Kovecses> signbarn, for xmms .... use beep-media-player... its the same thing but uses your gnome theme...as for dvdrip... those fonts are built into the app
[01:15] <toya_> i made a partition using partition tool from the install cd and make it as 'swap'
[01:15] <toya_> now im trying to edit my fstab
[01:15] <BlackEntity> toya_: add a swap line to your fstab
[01:16] <signbarn> Kovecses, why do they build in jaggy fonts?
[01:16] <Kovecses> signbarn, no idea
[01:16] <toya_> BlackEntity, i dunno the address
[01:16] <toya_> BlackEntity, as in hdax
[01:16] <KasperTech> Please, anyone?
[01:16] <KasperTech> I've updated my ipw2200 drivers.
[01:16] <patrick__> anyone know anything about this issue...  the computer will not respond after the screensaver has been activated -- mouse or keyboard
[01:16] <KasperTech> And it used to function...
[01:16] <mcjerry> Kovecses: any suggestions?
[01:16] <BlackEntity>  /dev/hda2       none            swap    sw              0       0 replace with your partition
[01:16] <veriz> anyone know if i have to put into /etc/network/interfaces that line iface eth0 inet dhcp to get inet for me server? last time when my computer crashed i had to put dhclient manually
[01:17] <veriz> for my server*
[01:17] <toya_> BlackEntity, i dunno the proc
[01:17] <Kovecses> mcjerry, im sorry what was the prob?
[01:17] <abarbaccia> hey all - if i plug in an external hdd and want to mount it permanantly using lvm to extend my home partition, how do i do it?
[01:17] <BlackEntity> type fdisk -l
[01:17] <mwe> noway: paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:17] <Kovecses> mcjerry, oh the vmware xorg thing
[01:17] <Kovecses> mcjerry, google it?
[01:18] <mcjerry> Kovecses: Adding the guest mode to the 'display' subsection of the 'screen' section of your /etc/X11/XF86Config and restarting X is likely to help
[01:18] <toya_> ok
[01:18] <mcjerry> Kovecses: yea, googled, just looking for someone with an xorg.conf with settings already so i can ref
[01:18] <toya_> BlackEntity, doesn't show anything
[01:19] <BlackEntity> fdisk -l /dev/hda
[01:19] <BlackEntity> whatever your drive is
[01:19] <toya_> doesn't see my swap
[01:19] <toya_> hmmm............
[01:20] <toya_> and in system -> admin -> disks, it shows as a free space
[01:20] <BlackEntity> partition it using cfdisk
[01:20] <BlackEntity> then do mkswap /dev/hdax
[01:20] <toya_> oh ok
[01:20] <BlackEntity> then append it to /etc/fstab
[01:20] <toya_> thx
[01:20] <anthrax> i cant sleep guys
[01:21] <Kovecses> drink a beer
[01:21] <anthrax> done that
[01:21] <toya_> should it be priamry or logical?
[01:21] <gerald-volt> how do I control the volume of my soundcard?
[01:21] <BlackEntity> Anyone on AMD64 install kernel headers?
[01:21] <BlackEntity> Is it possible? lol
[01:21] <aris[doritos] > of course
[01:21] <aris[doritos] > why wouldn't it be ?
[01:21] <BlackEntity> I know
[01:22] <BlackEntity> Well it's yet to work
[01:22] <anthrax> drink a beer, everything will become clear black
[01:22] <BlackEntity> kernel-headers-2.6.11-9:
[01:22] <BlackEntity>  Depends: kernel-kbuild-2.6-3  but it is not installable
[01:22] <BlackEntity> It doesn't lie that package doesn't exist
[01:22] <noway> mwe: http://pastebin.com/480912
[01:23] <Unity> can someone see if they can access my samba shares?
[01:23] <regplus> how you navigate in NANO editor?
[01:23] <regplus> should I hold key or?
[01:23] <cafuego> 2.6.11 is a little bit frighteningly old, why are you using that?
[01:24] <BlackEntity> I'm sorry I always had my french maid install my headers...
[01:24] <sudo_smartass> hey all
[01:24] <cafuego> 2.6.12 is current for breezy
[01:24] <BlackEntity> 2.6-11?
[01:24] <sudo_smartass> quick dumb question... where can i go to find out how fast my proc is running right now?
[01:25] <BlackEntity> arn't we at 2.6.14
[01:25] <Seveas> no
[01:25] <BlackEntity> lemme see
[01:25] <Seveas> 2.6.15rc7 for dapper
[01:25] <sudo_smartass> i just bumped it up in the bios and im curious how much faster it is running now that i bumped the multiplier up times 3
[01:25] <BlackEntity> I just downloaded breezy today
[01:25] <ossie> guys anyone use ipod on ubuntu ?
[01:25] <cafuego> If you're on dapper and are having issues compiling kernels I will laugh.
[01:25] <Seveas> breezy uses .12
[01:25] <BlackEntity> are you saying I should dist-upgrade?
[01:26] <cafuego> BlackEntity: Run an update in breezy, that should pull in a new kernel.
[01:26] <BlackEntity> sudo_smartass:  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:26] <regplus> what should I press to save dociment in NANO text editor?
[01:26] <regplus> document*
[01:26] <cafuego> regplus: ctrl-o
[01:26] <cafuego> (I think)
[01:26] <BlackEntity> update? I did that when it first booted
[01:26] <ITSa341> is there a linux replacement for speedswitch for AMD PowerNow compatible processors?
[01:26] <cafuego> BlackEntity: What does 'uname -r' say?
[01:27] <cafuego> ITSa341: 'powernowd' is installed by default.
[01:27] <tjb13> hey sorry guys
[01:27] <tjb13> my internet went south
[01:27] <Shadyman> Fuego!
[01:27] <note> how do you use MoL (or point me to a web page)
[01:27] <tjb13> did someone know how to get sleep working on thinkpads
[01:27] <tjb13> ?
[01:27] <Shadyman> !acpi
[01:27] <ubotu> Shadyman: I give up, what is it?
[01:27] <cafuego> !paste
[01:27] <ubotu> hmm... paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:27] <ITSa341> cafuego   that controlls things automatically, I want manual control as well as speed monitoring
[01:27] <Shadyman> !mol
[01:27] <ubotu> hmm... mol is See https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MacOnLinuxHowto for help
[01:27] <jblack> Anyways, going back to my question.. Has anybody seen problems with ppp on dapper?
[01:27] <sudo_smartass> damn... didn't go up that high... well... its better then it was at...
[01:27] <Shadyman> jblack: I've had problems even booting it.
[01:27] <jblack> ogra!
[01:27] <BlackEntity> Hmm it seems I should have been using the meta package
[01:28] <cafuego> BlackEntity: <heh>
[01:28] <jblack> shadyman: What sort of problems?
[01:28] <BlackEntity> I was fooled
[01:28] <mirak> when doing a debostrap install we must install manually the kernel image right ?
[01:28] <Shadyman> jblack: Missing a file or two booting the livecd.
[01:28] <jblack> Hmmm.
[01:28] <BlackEntity> ok now on to my real problem lol
[01:28] <khermans> Is there a HOWTO on Firefox 1.5 installation?  Nothing at the wiki...
[01:28] <Shadyman> jblack: So i gave up and went back to 5.10
[01:28] <crimsun> mirak: you have to manually do everything that a simple install of the base system doesn't.
[01:28] <Shadyman> !firefox15
[01:28] <ubotu> I heard firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[01:28] <jblack> You live on the livecd?
[01:28] <Kovecses> khermans, download it... then run it
[01:28] <crimsun> mirak: so yes, you have to handle all that yourself
[01:28] <toya_> BlackEntity, when i try 'sudo mount /dev/hda3'  it says mount point 'none' does not exist
[01:28] <Shadyman> jblack: No, but i can be
[01:28] <beruic> I NEED A QUICK ONE: What's the name of the app (or package) i need to run win32 WLAN drivers on Ubuntu?
[01:29] <braniff> wpa_supplicant's wpa_cli utility tells me that i'm authenticated to my router using wpa, but i can't get a dhcp lease...what could be the problem ??
[01:29] <Shadyman> ndiswrapper
[01:29] <ossie> cafuego, hi, any ideas why my ipod gets mounted read only?
[01:29] <BlackEntity> toya_: are you trying to mount swap? don't
[01:29] <Shadyman> beruic: ndiswrapper
[01:29] <toya_> BlackEntity, should i restart?
[01:29] <BlackEntity> toya_:  swapon /dev/hda3
[01:29] <Kovecses> ossie, are you trying dapper?
[01:29] <beruic> thx
[01:29] <ossie> heehhehehe , not yet Kovecses
[01:29] <BlackEntity> or if you have it in fstab yes restart
[01:29] <ossie> u rekon i should have a crack at it ?
[01:29] <crimsun> braniff: need wpas_upplicant [..]  -dd output
[01:29] <crimsun> wpa_supplicant, rather
[01:29] <braniff> ok
[01:30] <ITSa341> bbiab, everyone have a good evening
[01:30] <toya_> BlackEntity, hmm, no such file or directory
[01:30] <Kovecses> ossie, but havent givin up on ubuntu yet i see
[01:30] <crimsun> braniff: while you're at it, post your /etc/default/wpasupplicant and (sanitised) /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[01:30] <ossie> Kovecses, what will be my issues if i was to try dapper, nah im ok now had a few hours to relax
[01:31] <ossie> will keep plodding on, like someone said here earlier, it must be me cos lots of people are using ubuntu fine
[01:31] <Kovecses> ossie, yeah chances are youd be worse off using dapper
[01:31] <feg> hello, im having troubles with azureus on breezy: nat is OK, i have peers, but i cannot download anything
[01:31] <toya_> i should really try restarting
[01:31] <cdubya> any mail client that will sync it's calendar to the gnome calendar applet like evolution did?
[01:31] <sudo_smartass> ok damnit... this having to do everything in the commandline thing is starting to suck
[01:31] <Shadyman> ossie: Yeah. Don't do dapper yet.
[01:31] <cdubya> heh
[01:31] <BlackEntity> Hey where the hell did the headers install to?
[01:31] <tjb13> crap, i messed with the sudoers file and now i can't sudo
[01:31] <Seveas> sudo_smartass, please watch your language
[01:31] <tjb13> what do i do!
[01:31] <crimsun> BlackEntity: what headers?
[01:31] <sudo_smartass> how do i give my non-root account access to be able to make directories and paste and copy and all that from the gui?
[01:31] <cdubya> sudo_smartass, what are you having to do?
[01:31] <tjb13> i can't sudo to change it back!
[01:32] <Kovecses> tjb13, why did you even touch it
[01:32] <sudo_smartass> sorry seaveas
[01:32] <Seveas> tjb13, boot into recovery mode and restore it
[01:32] <BlackEntity> I just installed kernel-headers, now where is it?
[01:32] <crimsun> BlackEntity: /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:32] <ossie> my issues at the moment, all seem to be disk related
[01:32] <BlackEntity> No sir.
[01:32] <BlackEntity> that's what I would have expected
[01:32] <crimsun> BlackEntity: why did you install kernel-headers?
[01:32] <tjb13> Seveas, is that easy to do
[01:32] <Seveas> sudo_smartass, fortunately that is not possible, you really don't want it
[01:32] <Seveas> tjb13, yes
[01:32] <Shadyman> sudo_smartass: do "sudo nautilus"
[01:32] <tjb13> ok
[01:32] <BlackEntity> to compile ati driver
[01:32] <crimsun> BlackEntity: if you're using Ubuntu, you need to install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:32] <ossie> Kovecses, please tell me about dapper, whats the issues at the moment
[01:32] <nalioth> Shadyman: dont recommend that, please
[01:32] <crimsun> BlackEntity: do the included ATI drivers (fglrx) not work?
[01:32] <Seveas> Shadyman, that's UTTERLY STUPID
[01:33] <Kovecses> ossie, i have no idea
[01:33] <Shadyman> nalioth: Ok.
[01:33] <Seveas> to say the least
[01:33] <nalioth> Shadyman: use gksudo instead
[01:33] <ossie> i might have a pop , becuase my main problem is with my ite card, wich is supported in dapper
[01:33] <Shadyman> Seveas: I know. He asked.
[01:33] <Kovecses> the ati drivers worked great for me
[01:33] <nalioth> Shadyman: then advise the correct method, please
[01:33] <knight> Anyone using a laptop, with Xinerama with another monitor?
[01:33] <sudo_smartass> .... why dont i want to do that seveas?
[01:33] <Shadyman> nalioth: So what's the correct method then?
[01:33] <Shadyman> nalioth: gksudo?
[01:33] <nalioth> Shadyman: i just told you, scroll up
[01:34] <BlackEntity> No trust me, i've tried your prepackeged fglrx stuff i've it doesn't work
[01:34] <alvanson> sorry to ask the same question in a day, but my screen wouldn't come back on :(
[01:34] <regplus> ubutu! tell regplus about samba
[01:34] <Seveas> sudo_smartass, it is not needed and makes it far too easy to mess up your system
[01:34] <Shadyman> sudo_smartass: Because it's bad. Use gksudo instead
[01:34] <regplus> ubutu: tell regplus about samba
[01:34] <alvanson> what do I have to do to stop the nvidia kernel module from loading the agpgart module along with it?
[01:34] <Seveas> Shadyman, running nautilus as root is stupid
[01:34] <BlackEntity> so i'm just going into /lib/opt/fglrx/build_mod then sh make;.sh
[01:34] <sudo_smartass> shady.. tried the gksudo and it said missing command
[01:34] <nalioth> Seveas: yes it is, but if you MUST do it, at least minimize the damage (gksudo)
[01:35] <HymnToLife> I want to connet two ubuntu PCs with a cross cable to do some filesharing, is there a good howto for this ?
[01:35] <johnnybezak> hey guys, i've installed the tango icon's and it shows up in my themes panel but for some reason it won't use them, any ideas why this might be?
[01:35] <regplus> how do I manage startup items in ubuntu?
[01:35] <Kovecses> regplus, what kind of startup items?
[01:35] <CaptainMorgan> ugh
[01:35] <Seveas> nalioth, if you must use nautilus as root you're on the wrong path anyway and should rethink your steps :)
[01:35] <Shadyman> Seveas: Only as stupid as playing around as root.
[01:35] <CaptainMorgan> freakin nautilus
[01:35] <regplus> I want to install and enable Samba on startup
[01:35] <ossie> Kovecses, do u use a ipod??
[01:35] <Kovecses> ossie, no im to poor
[01:35] <Ntnglment> how come apt installs everything in /usr/lib????
[01:35] <Shadyman> :)
[01:35] <nalioth> Seveas: i know. but some folks are convinced it's the only way
[01:35] <crimsun> regplus: when you install samba, it's automatically enabled at startup
[01:36] <Kovecses> Ntnglment, it doesnt
[01:36] <Ntnglment> yea it does
[01:36] <ossie> hehe, why didnt u ask santa for one, its the right time of year :)
[01:36] <regplus> is Samba installed by default?
[01:36] <J2Dope> hi there. im having network problems on ubuntu. i set up all my ips correctly (same as windows)
[01:36] <crimsun> regplus: no, just install it
[01:36] <Unity> can someone see if they can get into my samba shares? i think i'm at risk
[01:36] <regplus> o
[01:36] <regplus> k
[01:36] <poningru_sleep> regeya: no
[01:36] <Ntnglment> just downloaded Postgres.....it's is /usr/lib/postgresql
[01:36] <J2Dope> but it takes aaaaaaaggggees to load a website and can't connect to gaim. any help?
[01:36] <Seveas> Ntnglment, dpkg -L postgresql-7.4
[01:37] <Seveas> (or 8.0 if you installed that)
[01:37] <BlackEntity> brb I'll let you know if it works
[01:37] <tjb13> so does anyone know how to get sleep working
[01:37] <Ntnglment> Seveas: whats dpkg?  im a n00b
[01:37] <Shadyman> tjb13: Dunno, it works fine for me.
[01:37] <tjb13> Shadyman, I have a thinkpad t43
[01:37] <Seveas> Ntnglment, it's the core package management tool
[01:37] <regplus> crimsun, so I manage samba via smb.conf like in other linux distros?
[01:38] <tjb13> and closing the lid or hitting the sleep sequence does nothing
[01:38] <crimsun> regplus: yep, if you prefer it that way
[01:38] <Shadyman> tjb13: Fun.
[01:38] <ossie> Kovecses, any ideas why my ipod now mounts as read only??
[01:38] <tjb13> Shadyman, is there some reason that it wouldn't work for me
[01:38] <regplus> crimsun, i have old conf so it should work :)
[01:38] <Ntnglment> Seveas: /usr/lib/postgresql/8.0/bin/pg_ctl
[01:38] <Shadyman> tjb13: That's beyond me.
[01:38] <Kovecses> ossie, edit your fstab
[01:38] <Ntnglment> why the hell is it there???
[01:39] <Seveas> Ntnglment, because it is needed...
[01:39] <ossie> Kovecses, ok, it was fine I never changed the fstab to make it read only
[01:39] <sudo_smartass> ok... well since i "shouldn't" use the sudo nautilus thing... how exactly would i go about copying from one mounted drive to a new folder i am about to create on my linux drive? cp /media/0 GB Disk/Backup Files (5-15-05)/MP3's/* /MP3 ??
[01:39] <Selekta> how do i edit a .mp3 files ID tags? rhythmbox won't let me....
[01:39] <J2Dope> can anyone help with my networking issue?
[01:39] <Seveas> sudo_smartass, if you need to use the gui, use the command line to give yourself access to these folders
[01:39] <HrdwrBoB> Selekta: easytag
[01:39] <khermans> Is Firefox 1.5 in the backports?
[01:39] <HymnToLife> screw my 56k...
[01:39] <nalioth> khermans: it is not.
[01:39] <poningru> khermans: no
[01:39] <Seveas> khermans, never will be
[01:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell khermans about firefox15
[01:40] <poningru> !tell khermans about firefox1.5
[01:40] <regplus> crimsun, do you know command to check status of samba via terminal?
[01:40] <khermans> I know about it
[01:40] <cdubya> tjb13, what version are you using?
[01:40] <sudo_smartass> how do i do that seveas?
[01:40] <braniff> crimsun, here is my pastebin for wpa_supplicant... --> http://pastebin.ca/35010
[01:40] <tjb13> breezy
[01:40] <ossie> Kovecses, no entry in fstab to mount my ipod
[01:40] <poningru> khermans: that has update info
[01:40] <Ntnglment> Seveas: so postgres IS installed is /usr/lib/......
[01:40] <sudo_smartass> the chmod 777 /whateverdrive?
[01:40] <Seveas> sudo_smartass, with chmod (change access mode)
[01:40] <regplus> crimsun, it was smb service status on redhat
[01:40] <tjb13> cdubya, is that what you meant
[01:40] <tjb13> ?
[01:40] <Seveas> Ntnglment, use that command
[01:40] <regplus> its not hre :(
[01:40] <HymnToLife> anyone has a link to a good howto for filesharing between two ubuntu boxes ?
[01:40] <regplus> here
[01:40] <cdubya> tjb13, yes. http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_5.04_on_a_ThinkPad_T43_(1875)
[01:40] <Seveas> it's installed all over, like all apps
[01:40] <Kovecses> ossie, gnome?
[01:40] <khermans> nalioth, poningru, Seveas, how can we avoid such "DLL HELL" in the future?  Is there a solution to this?
[01:40] <HymnToLife> I can't even get the network up...
[01:40] <crimsun> regplus: use the initscript and pass status to it
[01:40] <ossie> yes
[01:40] <poningru> !tell HymnToLife about nfs
[01:40] <Seveas> khermans, yes, epiphany
[01:40] <cdubya> tjb13, it's for hoary, so I'm not sure about all the accuracies.
[01:40] <nilsl> is there any good internet radio application for linux?
[01:40] <khermans> it seems silly for people to need to wait for Dapper to make sure Firefox is supported
[01:41] <HymnToLife> poningru > i know this
[01:41] <poningru> Seveas: rofl
[01:41] <Seveas> or firefox developers growing a brain...
[01:41] <regplus> !tell regplus about samba
[01:41] <nalioth> khermans: DLLs are in windows
[01:41] <Shadyman> khermans: Not really, since everything in Ubuntu is based on Firefox.
[01:41] <HymnToLife> I should have made myself clearer
[01:41] <sudo_smartass> Seveas, the thing is though i have alot of special characters that linux uses in my windows XP folder names.... will it cause an issue if i do it commandline style?
[01:41] <khermans> nalioth, of course -- but "SO HELL" is similar
[01:41] <poningru> Seveas: irc.firefox.org #developers
[01:41] <Ntnglment> I did....postgres is normally installed in /usr/local/postgres.  It's definatley NOT there!!
[01:41] <ossie> Kovecses, when i installed ubuntu i didnt get an option to choose if i wanted kde or gnome, i think i might switch to kde ???? what u think?
[01:41] <tjb13> cdubya, there is the laptop testing team thing
[01:41] <tjb13> and it says sleep works fine
[01:41] <tjb13> when you hit the sleep key
[01:41] <poningru> Seveas: just wait till 1.9 will ya till xul runner comes out
[01:41] <HymnToLife> first I need to get the network up and I'm stuck on it
[01:41] <tjb13> but its weird that on mine it doesn't do anything
[01:41] <nalioth> ossie: there is no option. if you want kde, install "kubuntu-desktop"
[01:42] <Kovecses> Shadyman, ubuntu isnt based on firefox
[01:42] <Seveas> Ntnglment, sigh, you should read documentation before complaining
[01:42] <Seveas> packages NEVER touch /usr/local
[01:42] <steve_laptop> when is Dapper to be final?
[01:42] <khermans> Shadyman, it is just frustrating to hear converts say "I can run Firefox 1.5 on Windows no proble, why do I have to wait until April of 2006 to run it on Ubuntu?"
[01:42] <Kovecses> ossie, i like gnome
[01:42] <Seveas> steve_laptop, april
[01:42] <b-served> a question .. is it possible to change mount point with the system->adminsitration->disks option .. cus everytime i try to change it it just referts back
[01:42] <poningru> steve_laptop: april
[01:42] <cdubya> tjb13, I don't use sleep, so I won't be much help, sorry
[01:42] <HymnToLife> steve_laptop > april
[01:42] <cdubya> tjb13, just found that on a quick look
[01:42] <Shadyman> khermans: I know.
[01:42] <steve_laptop> k
[01:42] <ossie> is less resource hungry ??
[01:42] <sudo_smartass> do i have to do a : in order to make it red for the person i specify? or is a , good enough?
[01:42] <ossie> gnome is less resource hungry ??
[01:42] <tjb13> oooh
[01:42] <Ntnglment> then the pgAdmin installation is complaining that postgres is not in /usr/local/postgres which is weird then.....
[01:43] <tjb13> cdubya, it says yes it is supported after sleep is enabled
[01:43] <crimsun> braniff: have you confirmed that the AP actually sees the DHCP requests?
[01:43] <khermans> Shadyman, yeah -- its just a bummer -- there must be some solution to this -- people want to install software the same way every time -- no matter how new it is!
[01:43] <cdubya> tjb13, that was my understanding.
[01:43] <nalioth> steve_laptop: there is a new ubuntu version each april and october
[01:43] <Kovecses> ossie, there about the same for me
[01:43] <sudo_smartass> man... i really should spend more time on this linux thing... its gonna take me a minute to learn all this stuff
[01:43] <cdubya> tjb13, I've looked at that site before.....but the ACPI setting had to be set to sleep
[01:43] <steve_laptop> nalioth, thanks
[01:43] <Mac121> hi
[01:44] <braniff> crimsun, hmm...no (how would i do that?)
[01:44] <noway> Trying again.. I'm using XFCE and the screen size is about 3-4 centimeters too wide and when I move the mouse to the sides it scrolls. I'm using the same resolution and refresh rates as I've used in the past and it's worked fine then. My xorg.conf is at http://pastebin.com/480867 and /var/log/Xorg.0.log is at http://pastebin.com/480912 I have no idea what might be wrong. Any suggestions?
[01:44] <Seveas> Ntnglment, then fix your pgadmin
[01:44] <regplus> there was tutorial for Samba on Ubuntu website, anybody know address?
[01:44] <Seveas> the pgadmin *Ubuntu* ships works
[01:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell regplus about samba
[01:45] <braniff> crimsun, AP is a cheap-ass linksys router...
[01:45] <sudo_smartass> ok
[01:45] <feg> my azureus seems to find a lot of peers/seeds but cannot connect ton anyone of them
[01:45] <Mac121> just install ubuntu 1st time on linux just managed to get wireless net working :]  but now im trying to get the apps i want but it keeps asking for the ubuntu cd instead of downloading from the net?
[01:45] <feg> NAT is OK
[01:45] <sudo_smartass> i have to use the sudo nautilus thing....
[01:45] <tjb13> cdubya, what does tha tmean
[01:45] <feg> i installed it as shown in the wiki
[01:45] <Seveas> Mac121, you can disable that
[01:46] <Seveas> Mac121, in the package manager you can disable the usage of the cd
[01:46] <sudo_smartass> if i do that can i rename the mounted directory?
[01:46] <Mac121> how do i do that?
[01:46] <feg> anyone having prolems with azureus/breezy?
[01:46] <sudo_smartass> from 0 GB Disk to hda1 and hda5
[01:46] <sudo_smartass> ??
[01:46] <CaptainMorgan> azureus is a *nux program?
[01:47] <crimsun> braniff: if you have a wired iface, log into the admin frontend and confirm that the AP is seeing dhcp requests
[01:47] <Kovecses> its a java app isnt it
[01:47] <mwe> feg: only that it likes to eat half the system memory
[01:47] <poningru> Mac121: go to synaptic (system-> admin-> synaptic)
[01:47] <Seveas> CaptainMorgan, it's java, runs on both
[01:47] <CaptainMorgan> thought it was winz prog..
[01:47] <cdubya> tjb13, look at the enable sleep and hibernation section on that site....
[01:47] <Unity> can someone help me checx if my box is open to the internet?
[01:47] <Mac121> ok
[01:47] <sudo_smartass> how do i change what the fstab calls my mounted devices??
[01:47] <Kovecses> Unity, can you ping anything
[01:48] <tjb13> cdubya, hrmm i think i missed that site
[01:48] <tjb13> can you send it again
[01:48] <funkyHat> CaptainMorgan, it's a Java app
[01:48] <cdubya> tjb13, http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_5.04_on_a_ThinkPad_T43_(1875)
[01:48] <feg> mwe, java...
[01:48] <poningru> Mac121: put in your password
[01:48] <tjb13> cdubya, thanks man
[01:48] <poningru> Mac121: now after it opens up go to settings
[01:48] <cdubya> Unity, are you talking about open to intruders or you getting out?
[01:48] <cdubya> tjb13, np
[01:48] <tjb13> ooh i was just looking at this
[01:48] <poningru> Mac121: repositories
[01:48] <Unity> cdubya, intruders
[01:48] <Mac121> ok
[01:48] <Kovecses> Unity, sorry misunderstood
[01:48] <Mac121> there
[01:48] <mwe> sudo_smartass: fstab doesn't call your mounted devices anything. mount just mounts them where the files says
[01:48] <poningru> Mac121: uncheck the cd repository should be the first one on the list
[01:49] <Unity> cdubya, particularly my smb shares
[01:49] <sudo_smartass> but how do i change what they are called?
[01:49] <Mac121> by uncheck you mean remove?
[01:49] <tjb13> cdubya, wait it says there is no text on that page
[01:49] <miki_> hi. how to avoid automatically start gnome?
[01:49] <poningru> Mac121: it doesnt remove it
[01:49] <poningru> Mac121: it just disables it
[01:49] <cdubya> Unity, are you forwarding any ports?
[01:49] <ossie> gonna try kubuntu , brb
[01:49] <cdubya> tjb13, hang on...
[01:49] <Mac121> ok thanks alot :]
[01:49] <miki_> I've got id:2:initdefauld in /etc/inittab
[01:49] <sudo_smartass> anyone?
[01:50] <GoRoDeK> anyone running vlc on drapper?
[01:50] <CaptainMorgan> great!
[01:50] <cdubya> tjb13, came up fine here.......
[01:50] <CaptainMorgan> my host crashed..
[01:50] <tjb13> weird
[01:50] <CaptainMorgan> I was running nautilus to ftp... nautilus ended up freezing on me... tried to force quit it.. wouldn't
[01:50] <poningru> Mac121: let me know if it causes any problems
[01:50] <Unity> cdubya, all ports
[01:50] <CaptainMorgan> so I tried ctrl-alt-back
[01:50] <sudo_smartass> !ubuntu tell me about renaming devices
[01:50] <ubotu> sudo_smartass: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:50] <CaptainMorgan> wouldn't work
[01:51] <mwe> sudo_smartass: I don't understand your question about the names of your mounts. do you mean change the mount point or what?
[01:51] <CaptainMorgan> I rebooted...
[01:51] <miki_> How to turn off automatic starting X when turn on computer ???
[01:51] <CaptainMorgan> system seems stable but now my host won't work!
[01:51] <Unity> cdubya, i guess then i'm really worried about whether they are password protected
[01:51] <CaptainMorgan> did I brea ksomething?
[01:51] <cdubya> Unity, how do you have it setup/
[01:51] <mwe> miki_: disable gdm/kdm/xdm
[01:51] <sudo_smartass> no like linux calls my windows xp drives 0 GB Disk (hda1) and the other 0 GB Disk (hda5)
[01:52] <sudo_smartass> i want to change that to just hda1 and hda5
[01:52] <sudo_smartass> that way i can actually get to them in the comand line of linux without doing a bunch of slashes for spaces and so on and so forth
[01:52] <miki_> mwe, how?
[01:52] <miki_> xdm
[01:52] <miki_> ive got
[01:52] <mwe> sudo_smartass: linux calls those drives just that, hda1 and hda5. I don't know what your window manager does though
[01:52] <ossie> Im liking kde
[01:53] <Ocean^> is there an easy way to install Java ?
[01:53] <Unity> cdubya, i used the shares under administration menu
[01:53] <sudo_smartass> the window manager calls is that 0 GB Disk (hda1) thing
[01:53] <CaptainMorgan> serious problem here...
[01:53] <cdubya> Unity, ah
[01:53] <mwe> miki_: do you want it permanently disabled?
[01:53] <sudo_smartass> and i cant change that because im not root and dont have permissions apparantly
[01:53] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Ocean^ about javadebs
[01:53] <miki_> mwe: no, just 4 now
[01:54] <FliesLikeABrick> sudo_smartass, is it sudo smartass or pseudo smartass?
[01:54] <acidspoon> Hi @ll
[01:54] <sudo_smartass> same...
[01:54] <FliesLikeABrick> no?
[01:54] <miki_> X uses 70$ of my ram, and i dont want it to start automatic
[01:54] <FliesLikeABrick> whats the meaning?
[01:54] <mwe> miki_: then sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/xdm. then when you want it back sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/xdm to get it back
[01:54] <Unity> cdubya, i checked those two boxes although i don't know what they say because its in korean for some reason
[01:54] <J2Dope> can anyone help with my networking issue?
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> miki_: 70
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> $?
[01:54] <nalioth> FliesLikeABrick: you can sudo_smartass can discuss that in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:54] <cdubya> Unity, heh
[01:54] <cdubya> Unity, I can't remember if the default smb.conf uses the security = user or not......that way whoever's trying to connect to the shares needs a unix account on the machine.....
[01:54] <mwe> miki_: that should work
[01:55] <FliesLikeABrick> sure nalioth  was just about to take it there
[01:55] <J2Dope> my ip's are set up right, but every goes way too slow in my browser, and gaim won't connect at all
[01:55] <miki_> HrdwrBoB, I don't know if 70%, tit just came over
[01:56] <sudo_smartass> hey... is my disk manager gonna get pissed if i change the name of what my window manager thinks the drive s called?
[01:56] <Ocean^> what the heck is the multiverse
[01:56] <Shadyman> !multiverse
[01:56] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[01:56] <J2Dope> anyone, please! im so sick of havin to use XP for the net
[01:57] <cheatersrealm`> anyone have 5.10 working with a wireless card using orinco driver?
[01:57] <cdubya> J2Dope, what's your setup?
[01:57] <J2Dope>  cdubya; well we have an adsl modem in the house, and i ran an ethernet cable out to my room and that connects to a simple hub
[01:58] <J2Dope> then i plug a cable from the hub into my laptop
[01:58] <J2Dope> it works fine on windows (which im on now).. but on ubuntu, damnned if i know whats happening
[01:58] <sudo_smartass> ok to rename a file/directory i can just use the mv command right?
[01:58] <J2Dope> also i use DHCP on windows. i've tried dhcp on ubuntu, but no luck
[01:58] <Unity> sudo_smartass, yes
[01:58] <do_while> hi
[01:59] <sudo_smartass> i have to unmount them first right?
[01:59] <cdubya> J2Dope, and you've activated eth0?
[01:59] <sudo_smartass> then rename them and mount -a
[01:59] <sudo_smartass> ?
[01:59] <J2Dope> yes it is activated
[01:59] <do_while> somebody runs linux on eMac???
[01:59] <sudo_smartass> changing the name of the partitions wont screw up fstab right?
[01:59] <Shadyman> !lom
[01:59] <ubotu> Shadyman: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[01:59] <J2Dope> see in firefox, pages load. but they take about 3mins (waay too long on adsl) and i can't get onto gaim at all
[01:59] <CaptainMorgan> lol
[02:00] <superchode|fu> what kind of modem, J2Dope?
[02:00] <J2Dope> just your run of the mill adsl modem
[02:00] <J2Dope> no fancy setups or nothing. but i can tell u the brand name if u want
[02:00] <superchode|fu> speedstream 5360?
[02:00] <cdubya> do_while, what's the issue
[02:01] <J2Dope> it's a netcomm
[02:01] <do_while> I've problems with resolution and gnome, menu bar is biggest than monitor
[02:01] <cdubya> J2Dope, what's your DNS server set to?
[02:01] <J2Dope> <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:01] <superchode|fu> okie dokie, shouldn't be a problem with the modem, then.
[02:01] <J2Dope> (that's also the ip i connect to thru my browser to set up the modem - usually only to reset it tho)
[02:01] <superchode|fu> that makes it a modem/router combo
[02:01] <J2Dope> yes it is
[02:02] <Mac121> does anyone know howto install pan newsreader?
[02:02] <J2Dope> sorry my technical jargon isn't the best
[02:02] <cdubya> J2Dope, did you mess with any of the internal modem settings at all/
[02:02] <electroweak> hi guys i was here couple days ago but i still couldnt solve my problem
[02:02] <superchode|fu> would be best if you could get dhcp going on eth0
[02:02] <do_while> cdubya, any iddea?
[02:02] <cdubya> do_while, what's the issue?
[02:02] <J2Dope> cdubya; no not at all. as is obvious, everything works fine on windows. and this is a clean ubunutu installation
[02:02] <sudo_smartass> woot woot!! i got it
[02:03] <do_while> I've problems with resolution and gnome, menu bar is biggest than monitor
[02:03] <cdubya> J2Dope, k
[02:03] <electroweak> after i install ubuntu 5.10 at the end of the installation Xserver shutting down itself
[02:03] <J2Dope> oh i should add. i can ping any website i want
[02:03] <J2Dope> and it pings fine and fast.
[02:03] <cdubya> do_while, sounds like the same prob I had installing Hoary on some older iMacs......video was a serious problem
[02:03] <J2Dope> (that's thru the terminal)... but when i wanna use a browser. im shot
[02:04] <electroweak> anybody can help me about that
[02:04] <do_while> cdubya how i move monitor site etc??
[02:04] <sudo_smartass> hey... dumb question... if i take the "ro" out of the fstab for my ntfs drives... can i delete stuff from it?
[02:04] <do_while> exist any soft??
[02:04] <cdubya> do_while, I think it's more a lack of video support, but I'm just guessing there.
[02:04] <cdubya> do_while, for the particular card in that machine, I mean
[02:05] <pashaw> J2Dope,  did you manually edit the /etc/resolv.conf file?
[02:05] <do_while> cdubya, radeon?
[02:05] <J2Dope> no. umm if ya'll could put me on 'hold' for a few minutes, ill boot up my other laptop so i can chat here, and ill log into linux with this lappy
[02:06] <pashaw> J2Dope,    good idea
[02:06] <miki_> when I run startx from tty1 gnome starts on tty7, but tty1 is still locked by infos from startx program. There's any way not to lock 2 terminals?
[02:06] <J2Dope> brb ya'll
[02:06] <pashaw> sudo_smartass,   you care if ntfs gets wiped out?
[02:06] <sudo_smartass> yeah just alittle bit....
[02:06] <pashaw> sudo_smartass,   then dont
[02:07] <cdubya> do_while, which one?
[02:07] <MaFiaBoY> dammit
[02:07] <do_while> i dont understand'u
[02:07] <MaFiaBoY> my system hangs at bootup when "starting hotplug subsystems"
[02:08] <sudo_smartass> ok... since i got u... lemme ask you this... if i chmod 777 the / directory... do i have to keep doing sudo's to copy and paste files and make directories and all that?
[02:08] <crimsun> MaFiaBoY: what type of sound chipset do you have?
[02:08] <electroweak> is there anybody can help me about Xserver after installation it shuts itself down
[02:08] <pashaw> miki_,   you can use F2 F3 etc  also
[02:08] <MaFiaBoY> crimsun > it's a MSI motherboard with ATI chipset if I remember well
[02:08] <miki_> Is there any way to unlock tty1 after I type in startx? Gnome starts in tty7, but in tt1 startx is all the time
[02:09] <miki_> pashaw, yes, but when X starts automatically I've got free tty1-tty6
[02:09] <crimsun> MaFiaBoY: ati sound chipset?
[02:09] <miki_> I need them all
[02:09] <pashaw> miki_,    then you answered your own question i think
[02:09] <MaFiaBoY> crimsun > lemme check it out
[02:10] <angel12> how do i set up firefox to stop using ipv6?
[02:10] <MaFiaBoY> but anyway, disabling onboard audio changes nothing
[02:10] <miki_> pashaw, no. I don't want X to start automatic, but when I start it by hand I want to have free tty1-tt6
[02:10] <j2dope> ok got ubuntu loaded up
[02:10] <electroweak> is my question that stupid to answer guys please help me
[02:10] <ankan> excuse me....does anyone know how can I play .rmvb file usin Mplayer?
[02:10] <j2dope> in networking eth0 is my gateway connection
[02:10] <miki_> Is there any way, maybe running startx from tty7 (which is locked also)?
[02:11] <sudo_smartass> ok do i have to do a chmod 777 /home/* in order to change the mode of every file in the /home directory????
[02:11] <angel12> ankan, google for real codec mplayer
[02:11] <j2dope> someone was asking about my resolv.conf file.. where can i find that?
[02:11] <angel12> how do i set up firefox to stop using ipv6?
[02:11] <Kovecses> j2dope, /etc
[02:11] <Wilf> chmod 777 /home/ -R i think?
[02:11] <miki_> pashaw, ok sloved it. Just hit ctrl-z and send start-x log into background ;)
[02:11] <MaFiaBoY> sudo_smartass > chmod -R 777 /home/*
[02:11] <electroweak> is there anybody can help me about Xserver after installation it shuts itself down what can i do
[02:11] <Sanne> angel12: this may help for firefox: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxTipsAndTricks
[02:12] <angel12> electroweak, what was your question?
[02:12] <MaFiaBoY> j2ope cat /etc/resolv.conf
[02:12] <sudo_smartass> ahh... the -R  ... thats for recursive right?
[02:12] <electroweak> is there anybody can help me about Xserver after installation it shuts itself down what can i do
[02:12] <pashaw> miki_,   clever   iver never tried to free all my terminals like that
[02:12] <ankan> thnks...i will try tht
[02:12] <electroweak> x server shutting itself after intallation
[02:12] <poningru> angel12: whats wrong?
[02:12] <angel12> Sanne, the problem is firefox is using IPV6 and i cant go to web pages
[02:12] <Kovecses> electroweak, what happens?
[02:12] <MaFiaBoY> electroweak > any error message ?
[02:12] <poningru> angel12: pretty simple
[02:12] <sudo_smartass> holy crap... thats alot of files!!
[02:12] <poningru> angel12: go into firefox
[02:12] <electroweak> some error msgs about fonts
[02:12] <poningru> angel12: in the urlbar type in about:config
[02:12] <angel12> poningru, yeah, i just forgot the command
[02:12] <poningru> press enter
[02:12] <factotum> hmmph, its interesting getting into builing web pages after leaving windows
[02:12] <pashaw> electroweak,  spamming gets you ignored
[02:12] <j2dope> ok my resolv.conf has 'domain MSHOME         search  <IP_ADDRESS>  nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:12] <miki_> pashaw, linux is by default multitask ;)
[02:13] <sudo_smartass> lol glad i bumped up the proc or id be here all day.... i still might.... :(
[02:13] <angel12> poningru, thanks
[02:13] <poningru> angel12: now search for ipv6
[02:13] <poningru> angel12: do you know what to do after this?
[02:13] <pashaw> miki_,   i know  but you wanted every terminal free   never tried that   always ignored the startx one
[02:13] <factotum> I tried dreamweaver mx2004 at work today, it renders all wierd like, css + dreamweaver= icky
[02:13] <angel12> poningru, yeah, i just forgot about:config, i tried as many as i could think of lol
[02:13] <factotum> sorry, babbling
[02:13] <j2dope> i just pinged google.com with no packet loss. i just can't figure out why websites wont load in a browser
[02:13] <Sanne> angel12: the link I gave tells the same as poningru described...
[02:14] <sudo_smartass> lol pashaw im glad i didn't change the ro in the fstab... its stopping the chmod from changing all the file permissions on my ntfs drives lol
[02:14] <Kovecses> j2dope, sounds like a resolv.conf error
[02:14] <sudo_smartass> thanks for that bit of advise :)
[02:14] <angel12> Sanne, i couldnt go to a webpage because it was set to ipv6
[02:14] <sudo_smartass> very useful
[02:14] <pashaw> sudo_smartass,   nytime
[02:14] <hanasaki> whts a good usb cam for linux? WITH audio
[02:14] <electroweak> and i tried kubuntu but it`s hanging after i log in nothing responding on keyboard
[02:14] <Sanne> angel12: ah! sorry, I didn't understand.
[02:14] <j2dope> Kovecses; any suggestions what i should put in there? im sick of xp
[02:15] <sudo_smartass> oh!! another question... how do i make my dvd burner be recognized by linux?
[02:15] <Kovecses> j2dope, well .... it should have auto detected all of that.... private messge me what you have in there
[02:15] <pashaw> electroweak,  whats happening now  after install you cant run X
[02:15] <sudo_smartass> woohoo... that chmod thing worked... i like linux again :)
[02:15] <factotum> sudo_smartass: install ubuntu
[02:15] <cdubya> j2Dope, I have the IP for my router in resolv.conf for the nameserver entry........might want to set that to your IP for your modem if it's not......
[02:16] <electroweak> it`s asking for restart but after that it cant start Xserver
[02:16] <electroweak> nothing asking or doing and some error msg about fonts
[02:16] <giard> anyone using dapper have their Applications menu flash and then disappear?
[02:16] <pashaw> electroweak,   whats asking for restart did you change something?
[02:16] <Rapierian> has anyone played around with bridge-utils before? I've been trying to get a network bridge to work for the past hour
[02:16] <Hobbsee> giard: check ubuntuforums.org - i'm sure ive seen a sticky about that..
[02:17] <electroweak> no nothing after i started the installation it`s ejecting CD and asking for restart
[02:17] <pashaw> cdubya,   a better idea would be to use his isps DNS servers in there  some modems have flakey DNs
[02:17] <electroweak> normal operation i think
[02:18] <pashaw> electroweak,   ok    so install went good restarted   now X wont start right
[02:18] <electroweak> exactly
[02:18] <sudo_smartass> what does this mean??? "sudo: must be setuid root"
[02:18] <cdubya> pashaw, true, just trying to see what works....
[02:19] <pashaw> electroweak,  same puter your on now of a different one
[02:19] <pashaw> cdubya,  i see  just thought id mention flakey modems   i hate em
[02:19] <cdubya> pashaw, point taken. I know what you're saying. :)
[02:19] <sudo_smartass> how do i remove a program with the apt-get command?
[02:20] <cdubya> apt-get remove
[02:20] <sudo_smartass> i want totem gone and i wanna get a better player... one that will play mpeg's and stuff
[02:20] <sudo_smartass> remove
[02:20] <sudo_smartass> ok
[02:20] <SAM_theman> yo people!!!
[02:20] <sudo_smartass> uninstall and delete weren't working lol
[02:20] <SAM_theman> i know you missed me
[02:20] <cdubya> heh
[02:20] <Kovecses> sudo_smartass, totem-xine and w32codecs
[02:20] <pashaw> sudo_smartass,   why not leave totem alone   install  different one   then in a week or 2 remove what you dont like
[02:20] <electroweak> pashaw: what should i do to fix it
[02:20] <SAM_theman> hey sudo_smartass nice nick
[02:20] <sudo_smartass> thanks sam
[02:20] <factotum> ^what Kovecses said, works wonders
[02:20] <sudo_smartass> xine?
[02:20] <sudo_smartass> is that a good one?
[02:20] <pashaw> electroweak,   i asked you if your using that computer  or are you next to it
[02:21] <miki_> Is there any way to add GRUB menu options to start linux with X or just console?
[02:21] <electroweak> using that
[02:21] <Kovecses> im watching episode 3 right now
[02:21] <miki_> eg. Ubuntu console | Ubuntu Gnome | Ubuntu recovery ?
[02:21] <Rapierian> does anyone know how to set up a bridge? I'd like my wireless connection to bridge to my hard connection so that my other computers can connect also
[02:21] <sudo_smartass> josh@Linux:/$ sudo apt-get install xine
[02:21] <sudo_smartass> sudo: must be setuid root
[02:21] <sudo_smartass> what does that mean
[02:21] <factotum> <<hitchhikers guide
[02:21] <HrdwrBoB> Rapierian: bridging doesn't work with many wireless cards
[02:22] <HrdwrBoB> just so you know
[02:22] <HrdwrBoB> though you can do it
[02:22] <MDM> I've just installed an app called memtest from synaptic I can't damage the RAM with it can I?
[02:22] <MaFiaBoY> crimsun > lmao it was my USB mouse who messed it all up
[02:22] <miki_> Is there any way to add GRUB menu options to start linux with X or just console? eg. [Ubuntu console]  | Ubuntu Gnome | Ubuntu recovery ?
[02:22] <Kovecses> MDM, no
[02:22] <pashaw> electroweak, ok this might take a few tries      youll need to boot up Ubuntu  but in grub pick the recovery kernel   login   then   type startx   and copy down the errors it reports
[02:22] <pokesomi> hi i have installed ubuntu on a sony viao and need help installing a wireless card
[02:22] <MaFiaBoY> I plugged it on PS/2 and it works fine
[02:22] <MDM> ok thanks Kovecses
[02:22] <electroweak> ok i can do that
[02:22] <Rapierian> hmm...that might explain things, HrdwrBoB...do you know any way to check if my wireless card allows it or not?
[02:23] <pashaw> electroweak, with your errors   we will know what to change
[02:23] <superchode|fu> could someone tell me what the following means?: 'isolinux: Extremely broken BIOS detected, last ditch attempt with drive = 9F'
[02:23] <HrdwrBoB> Rapierian: can't remember offhand
[02:23] <electroweak> ok thanks i`ll be back
[02:23] <HrdwrBoB> superchode|fu: your BIOS is extremely broken
[02:23] <superchode|fu> the board (EPIA 5000) has a freshly flashed bios (had this error before so i flashed it)
[02:23] <crimsun> MaFiaBoY: ok.
[02:23] <superchode|fu> and it runs loopss of memtest86 no problem
[02:24] <pokesomi> can anyone help me install the linksys wpc54g?  i have instructions but I follow them and nothing happens
[02:24] <obsrv> how to install a package from local PC?
[02:24] <Rapierian> okay...in that case, how do I set up my computer as a gateway?
[02:24] <obsrv> I have a .deb file
[02:24] <sudo_smartass> ok... sudo apt-get aint working... how do i make myself this "setuid root" person?
[02:24] <nalioth> Rapierian: what is the pkg?
[02:24] <superchode|fu> the board displays no other symptoms of a broken BIOS
[02:24] <Kovecses> obsrv, dpkg -i
[02:24] <cdubya> obsrv, sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[02:24] <SAM_theman> Well For Christmas look what i got (http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=12/36019231192.png&s=x12)
[02:25] <sudo_smartass> crap... now the synaptic manager aint working either.....
[02:25] <sudo_smartass> someone help pretty please
[02:25] <sudo_smartass> ive screwed something up and i dont know what i did....
[02:25] <Kovecses> SAM_theman, new vid card... sweet
[02:25] <pashaw> sudo_smartass,  what command did you run about 10mins ago
[02:25] <cdubya> heh
[02:25] <SAM_theman> yup
[02:25] <SAM_theman> this is my ild one
[02:25] <SAM_theman> http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=12/35118151546.png&s=x11
[02:25] <SAM_theman> *old
[02:26] <sudo_smartass> uhh... 10 mins ago...alot of them i guess
[02:26] <pokesomi> i really need help here
[02:26] <Rapierian> nalioth: I just found out my wireless card can't act as a bridge, so I want to figure out how to make my computer serve internet to the computers on it's hardline, with the internet it can recieve from it's wireless
[02:26] <SAM_theman> well talk
[02:26] <Kovecses> SAM_theman, this putfile site seems pretty cool
[02:26] <sudo_smartass> i did a chmod 777 -R /home/* /usr/*
[02:26] <SAM_theman> yup
[02:26] <pashaw> sudo_smartass,  didnt you change alot of permissions  so many it touched your ntfs drives also
[02:26] <sudo_smartass> thats when it quit working
[02:26] <nalioth> Rapierian: look at firestarter (but dont do anything with it until you read about it)
[02:27] <sudo_smartass> pash... it tried too but they were read only
[02:27] <Rapierian> okay, will do. Thanks nalioth, and HrdwrBoB
[02:27] <SAM_theman> and i can play Battlefield 2 !!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:27] <pokesomi> can someone help me?
[02:27] <SAM_theman> with 512 ram...
[02:27] <pokesomi> please
[02:27] <SAM_theman> :D
[02:27] <sudo_smartass> so when i did the chmod 777 -R /media/* it just told me everything was read only
[02:27] <SAM_theman> OK talk!!
[02:27] <SAM_theman> pokesomi...wHaT
[02:27] <HrdwrBoB> SAM_theman: that's bare minimum requirements
[02:27] <SAM_theman> nope
[02:27] <SAM_theman> the ram
[02:27] <HrdwrBoB> I would recommend getting 512mb more ram
[02:27] <SAM_theman> but 2.66ghz
[02:27] <nalioth> sudo_smartass: things in media are not able to be messed with by you until you change the permissions in your fstab
[02:28] <pokesomi> I am triying to install a wpc54g from linksys and i am using the instructions from the forum
[02:28] <pokesomi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5645
[02:28] <SAM_theman> 256 graphics carf
[02:28] <HrdwrBoB> bf2 uses 800mb ram
[02:28] <SAM_theman> *card
[02:28] <pokesomi> and nothing happens
[02:28] <SAM_theman> mm...
[02:28] <HrdwrBoB> SAM_theman: it's a 6200 ffs
[02:28] <factotum> *wonders* why would you chmod /usr/ ?
[02:28] <SAM_theman> ffs?
[02:28] <HrdwrBoB> factotum: if you're insane
[02:28] <SmrtJustin> Question for you guys, I'm trying to upgrade to dapper, and I ran into this one problem while doing a dist-upgrade: locales: Depends: glibc-2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 but it is not installable
[02:28] <HrdwrBoB> SAM_theman: a 6600 at 128mb is better than a 6200 256mb
[02:28] <sudo_smartass> fact... because i thought that was where my usr directory was
[02:29] <HrdwrBoB> because the primary thing you need is speed
[02:29] <SAM_theman> yeah i know
[02:29] <sudo_smartass> turned out it was in home
[02:29] <nalioth> SmrtJustin: it's a development version. it's gonna be broken
[02:29] <sudo_smartass> ...
[02:29] <sudo_smartass> anyway
[02:29] <factotum> heh
[02:29] <Kovecses> omg
[02:29] <SAM_theman> but i told the guys at tiger direct that i wanted one in my buget
[02:29] <SmrtJustin> nalioth: lol, so theres nothing I can do?
[02:29] <sudo_smartass> what is this setiud root thing?
[02:29] <pokesomi> any ideas SAM
[02:29] <HrdwrBoB> SAM_theman: yeah
[02:29] <SAM_theman> no for real
[02:29] <HrdwrBoB> SAM_theman: I mean, it'll play
[02:29] <nalioth> SmrtJustin: if you are man enough to want to run it, you'll figure out how to get around the problem.
[02:29] <HrdwrBoB> but i seriously recommend upping to 1gb ram
[02:29] <SAM_theman> it put everything on high
[02:29] <SAM_theman> it works
[02:29] <Hobbsee> SmrtJustin: file a bug for it
[02:29] <nalioth> SmrtJustin: it'll be 'broken' til the first of march, i'd expect
[02:30] <SmrtJustin> nalioth: really? that long
[02:30] <SmrtJustin> nalioth: sorry for my lack of ubuntu knowledge, I run Gentoo on my machine, and I'm trying out Ubuntu on my parent's machine.
[02:30] <nalioth> SmrtJustin: it is under heavy developement, they'll get to a freeze point about then, and start fixin bugs on frozen versions
[02:30] <sudo_smartass> is xine in the normal repos???
[02:30] <nalioth> SmrtJustin: try breezy, it works great.
[02:30] <SAM_theman> the 6200 was 74.99 and the 6600 at 128mb was 123.99
[02:31] <Hobbsee> !tell sudo_smartass about info xine
[02:31] <SAM_theman> and i only had like $130.00
[02:31] <SmrtJustin> nalioth: yeah I would, but I'm more of a bleeding edge kind of person, especially coming from Gentoo.
[02:31] <SAM_theman> i needed to buy ram
[02:31] <sudo_smartass> great... so it doesn't exist... what is it called then?
[02:31] <nalioth> dapper will make you cry, SmrtJustin
[02:31] <pashaw> SmrtJustin,   running a testing version is ment for above average users  that enjoy solving their own problems  to help fix the distro for release
[02:31] <cdubya> pokesomi, did you read through this?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%29
[02:31] <SAM_theman> that was 23.99 at 256mb
[02:31] <Kovecses> SmrtJustin, ubuntu is more bleeding edge than gentoo ... i also came from gentoo
[02:31] <Rapierian> I had to read that wiki on Ndiswrapper last night
[02:32] <pokesomi> not yet
[02:32] <pokesomi> y? is there something important
[02:32] <Hobbsee> sudo_smartass: apt-cache search xine
[02:32] <SmrtJustin> pashaw: I'm sure it is, I was just curious if it was a easily sovable problem.
[02:32] <cdubya> pokesomi, just wondering if you followed the directions there.
[02:32] <j2dope> thanks to Kovecses for helpin to solve my network problem. peace ya'll!
[02:33] <pokesomi> yeah
[02:33] <sudo_smartass> ok... now that it found some i do what? apt-get install whatever the file and all of its dependencies are?
[02:33] <pokesomi> at the link you just gave me
[02:33] <pokesomi> ?
[02:33] <pashaw> SmrtJustin,   get breezy  then youll get alot more help  :)
[02:33] <nalioth> SmrtJustin: visit bugzilla and file a bug. then try again tomorrow (after you've updated your apt)
[02:34] <Hobbsee> sudo_smartass: then it'll figure out what the dependancies are, and install them as well
[02:34] <pokesomi> did the lspci and it doesnt show up
[02:34] <pokesomi> oh wait hang on
[02:34] <sudo_smartass> ok and someone mentions something about w32codec's or something... is that right?
[02:34] <pokesomi> found it
[02:34] <johnnybezak> hey guys i'm not sure if you'd know the answer to this but I'm trying to make my qt apps look decent in gnome. i installed a good clearlooks font and it works in kcontrol, but when I open up scribus (the app i want to use) it's still ugly. any one know why it's not using the theme>
[02:34] <sudo_smartass> im wanting to play mpeg's and stuff like that
[02:35] <IamNotRoot> hi
[02:35] <sudo_smartass> will the w32codecs play dvd .iso files?
[02:35] <poningru> sudo_smartass: mpegs are playable in totem
[02:35] <sudo_smartass> really?
[02:35] <Wilf> .iso isn't a dvd format
[02:35] <Wilf> it's a cd image
[02:35] <sudo_smartass> i tried and it said i needed codecs
[02:35] <poningru> sudo_smartass: you can watch dvds in totem as well
[02:35] <poningru> and what Wilf said
[02:36] <sudo_smartass> yeah but all my dvds get ripped into an .iso
[02:36] <poningru> sudo_smartass: here follow this
[02:36] <IamNotRoot> I created a system from debootstrap. I am in it now, but he did not created any admin groups. I am wondering if there is special things to do
[02:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sudo_smartass about dvd
[02:36] <poningru> !restricted formats
[02:36] <ubotu> I heard restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[02:36] <pashaw> !tell sudo_smartass about restrictedformats
[02:36] <pashaw> :P
[02:36] <IamNotRoot> I am in single user, so I can't quite browse at the time right know and am in console
[02:37] <IamNotRoot> !ls
[02:37] <ubotu> I heard ls is the command used to LiSt the contents of a directory in Linux.
[02:37] <gnomefreak> :) i fixed it :)
[02:37] <pokesomi> i cant find the device under system>Administration>Networking after following the wiki
[02:38] <mirak> hola
[02:38] <mirak> I was iamnotroot
[02:38] <mirak> I need to add an admin group for sudo to work. I am asking if there is a special way to do that
[02:38] <sudo_smartass> oh!!! i just figured out what the "setuid root" was
[02:38] <KingBahamut> evening all
[02:39] <sudo_smartass> lol im a dumbass
[02:39] <cafuego> mirak: via 'addgroup'
[02:39] <mirak> cafuego: the number doesn't matter ?
[02:39] <mirak> the group id
[02:39] <cafuego> mirak: No idea
[02:40] <pokesomi> Sam any ideas?
[02:40] <pashaw> mirak,   what are you running breezy?
[02:40] <cafuego> it's 116 on one of the machines here, where sudo works fine.
[02:40] <mirak> pashaw: from debootstrap. That's a dapper, but the issue ramin the same
[02:40] <mirak> remain
[02:40] <xenex> i need help with my wireless card
[02:40] <pokesomi> and mine
[02:41] <pashaw> mirak,   ahh  i dont touch testing releases    already too many projects i never finish
[02:41] <SAM_theman> just watch 3 weird moviesd
[02:41] <cdubya> pokesomi, is it in /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:41] <xenex> i need help with my wireless card can anyone help me?
[02:41] <mirak> pashaw: well the process is the same with any release for debootstrap
[02:41] <cafuego> xenex: Perhaps specifiying what card and what help might have some effect
[02:41] <pashaw> mirak,   then you could google it no?
[02:42] <xenex> cafuego, netgear wg511v2 made in china version
[02:42] <pokesomi> what next
[02:42] <cafuego> xenex: ndiswrapepr is what you need
[02:42] <xenex> cafuego, i have it
[02:42] <j2dope> yay it's me again with a quick q... is the repository guide @ http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[02:42] <cafuego> !ndiswrapper
[02:42] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[02:42] <j2dope> correct?
[02:42] <xenex> cafuego, the lights are just blinking
[02:42] <pokesomi> i need to chmod it what is the command
[02:43] <gnomefreak> chmod = the command
[02:43] <mirak> pashaw: yes I am in text mode
[02:43] <pokesomi> and the arguments?
[02:43] <gnomefreak> pokesomi,  type chmod and it will give you options to use depending on what you want
[02:44] <gnomefreak> it should give you the a list of parameters
[02:44] <pokesomi> i need it to go from read only to read write
[02:44] <xenex> cafuego, i tried ndiswrapper and the light is just blinking
[02:44] <pashaw> !tell j2dope about repositories
[02:44] <gnomefreak> than just chmod - right parameters you want
[02:44] <cdubya> j2dope, you get it?
[02:44] <xenex> is there a way to reset the modprobe alias?
[02:45] <j2dope> thanks i got it
[02:45] <j2dope> much appreciated
[02:45] <cdubya> j2dope, kewl
[02:45] <j2dope> whats the latest ubuntu? hoary of breezy?
[02:45] <xenex> breezy
[02:45] <Wilf> breezty
[02:45] <cdubya> j2dope, so now you can dump XP?
[02:45] <cdubya> heh
[02:45] <j2dope> thought so
[02:45] <pokesomi> how do i make the file editable
[02:45] <j2dope> yupp yupp :D
[02:45] <Wilf> what was 5.0 called?
[02:45] <gnomefreak> sorry its chmod --help
[02:46] <cdubya> Hoary
[02:46] <j2dope> in the time consuming process of making ubuntu 'feel like home' again
[02:46] <cdubya> Wilf, Hoary
[02:46] <Wilf> i thought hoary was 5.04
[02:46] <pokesomi> its not telling me what i want to know
[02:46] <Hobbsee> Wilf: it is
[02:46] <do_while> hi
[02:46] <xenex> can anyone help me with my wireless card???
[02:46] <sudo_smartass> ok... now im gonna ask the dumbest question yall have heard in a long time i bet... can i use wine to play unreal tournament?
[02:46] <j2dope> i am having probs with my laptops touch pad tho. it's way too sensitive. i keep losing window focus when scrolling across multiple windows
[02:46] <Wilf> what was the one before hoary called?
[02:46] <Unity> the version number is the year followed by the month
[02:46] <do_while> GDM looks right, but Gnome looks wrong
[02:47] <gnomefreak> pokesomi, what are you looking for it to do?
[02:47] <do_while> somebody can help me?
[02:47] <cdubya> j2dope, had the same issue here....so I use a usb mouse. ;)
[02:47] <nalioth> xenex: have you been to the wireless wiki?
[02:47] <coz> warty hedgehog
[02:47] <Unity> before hoary was warty
[02:47] <pashaw> sudo_smartass,   isnt unreal linux native?
[02:47] <xenex> nalioth, no
[02:47] <nalioth> ubotu: tell xenex about wireless
[02:47] <HrdwrBoB> pashaw: yes
[02:47] <coz> warty warthog
[02:47] <sudo_smartass> i dont know i have the windows version...
[02:47] <j2dope> hahah yeah i reckon im gonna have to plug my usb mouse in too. meh its' prolly better for my wrists
[02:47] <sudo_smartass> ?
[02:47] <Wilf> ah yeah.
[02:47] <pokesomi> to make it so i can edit the file interfaces
[02:47] <j2dope> brb
[02:47] <pokesomi> that is located in /etc/network/
[02:48] <pashaw> sudo_smartass,  have the install manual?
[02:48] <sethk> pokesomi, use sudo to have write permissions, but usually that's not the best way to do it
[02:48] <pokesomi> it is currently read only
[02:48] <sudo_smartass> not anymore
[02:48] <pokesomi> what is the best way
[02:48] <sudo_smartass> i am lucky i still have the play disc around here
[02:48] <do_while> why gnome menubar is biggest than monitor screen?
[02:48] <sethk> pokesomi, if you can do what you need to do with the dialog (system/admin/network), it's better
[02:48] <gnomefreak> pokesomi,  what is wrong with gedit?
[02:48] <pokesomi> ok
[02:48] <wastrel> anyone using gnome-pilot/evolution for their palm?  having trouble getting it working well.
[02:49] <pokesomi> i cant type anything into the files i need to edit
[02:49] <pokesomi> i need to change permissions
[02:49] <gnomefreak> pokesomi,  your not the sudoer?
[02:49] <izm81> hey all.  where do we post bugs for both breezy and dapper?
[02:49] <dylan_> what is the bottom "dock" thing in this picture called?  what is the package name?  http://art.gnome.org/images/screenshots/gnome210/Foxspos.png
[02:49] <sethk> pokesomi, if it is truly read only you can do:   sudo chmod +w /etc/whatever
[02:49] <pashaw> sudo_smartass, http://www.princessleia.com/UT.php    pretty close
[02:49] <pokesomi> that will do the whole folder right?
[02:49] <gnomefreak> izm81,  bugzilla is in you application>systemtools menu
[02:49] <xenex> nalioth, that didnt help because my card isnt listed there
[02:50] <mcjerry> this is a kde related question....i use gnome on ubuntu but am running knoppix live cd in vmware.....how do i turn remote desktop on in kde like i do in gnome?
[02:50] <do_while> why my menu bar from gnome is biggest than monitor screen?
[02:50] <xenex> nalioth, my card is netgear wg511v2 made in china version
[02:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell xenex about ndiswrapper
[02:50] <xenex> nalioth, i already have it
[02:50] <xenex> nalioth, i did it but the light is just blinking
[02:50] <wastrel> dylan_:  that is just a gnome panel toolbar dealy
[02:50] <cdubya> pokesomi, sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[02:50] <wastrel> dylan_:  you can fool with the options to make it look like that
[02:51] <pokesomi> got it thanks
[02:51] <izm81> gnomefreak, no, it's not.  Could be because I'm on Dapper, at the moment.
[02:51] <do_while> somebody can help me please?
[02:51] <mcjerry> How do i turn on remote desktop in kde?
[02:51] <marc_> No
[02:51] <cdubya> do_while, what type of radeon card?
[02:51] <dylan_> wastrel, wanna help me?
[02:52] <do_while> VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV200 QW [Radeon 7500]
[02:52] <pashaw> mcjerry,  thats a knoppix question    but should be vncserver  in there i believe
[02:52] <Rapierian> hmm...firestarter is giving me unspecified errors
[02:52] <cdubya> do_while, k
[02:52] <do_while> I use eMac , and i see that boot console is moved to left
[02:52] <do_while> and gnome moved to right
[02:52] <wastrel> dylan_:  you can probably figure out most of it yourself just looking through the options
[02:52] <gnomefreak> izm81, if you go to the4 alacarte menu editor you can add it
[02:53] <gnomefreak> im also on dapper right now
[02:53] <do_while> any iddea cdubya
[02:53] <wastrel> dylan_:  if you need to make a new panel right-click on an existing one and choose "new panel"  then right-click on the new panel and choose "properties"
[02:54] <pokesomi> does anyone know the value for shared mode on wireless?
[02:55] <izm81> izm81, ah.  bugzilla.ubuntu.com  :)  thanks.
[02:55] <cdubya> do_while, I'm looking.....hang on
[02:55] <gnomefreak> izm81,  anytime
[02:55] <do_while> i wait'u
[02:55] <izm81> gnomefreak, woops... talking to myself.  heh
[02:55] <wastrel> anyone using gnome-pilot & evolution for their palm sync?  i'm having trouble getting it working well
[02:55] <gnomefreak> izm81,  you didnt find it in menu editoer?
[02:55] <mirak_> wow I am dapper right now, I find it way more faster
[02:55] <WeBDsIgNNeR> How can i install ubuntu using floppy boot?
[02:56] <Rapierian> I've set up firestarter since bridge-utils won't work with my wireless card, hoping to serve my wireless internet to my wired machines...but firestarter, while in permissive mode, isn't working...
[02:56] <do_while> any software to recalibrate monitor ( move, compress expand )
[02:56] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell WeBDsIgNNeR  about install
[02:56] <Rapierian> are there perhaps some things I need to specify about my internal network?
[02:56] <mirak_> pppoe have still problems like on breezy though
[02:56] <izm81> gnomefreak, yes, I did.  and when I clicked it, it brought me to the webpage.
[02:57] <gnomefreak> ok good
[02:58] <cdubya> do_while, does lspci report the right video card?
[02:58] <sudo_smartass> what is the chmod number setting for read only for everyone but root?
[02:58] <sudo_smartass> like chmod 711
[02:58] <sudo_smartass> ?
[02:58] <Ocean^> okay is there like a Testing equivilante for ubuntu like in debian ?
[02:58] <do_while> VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV200 QW [Radeon 7500]
[02:58] <do_while> this is lspci
[02:59] <cdubya> do_while, k
[02:59] <sudo_smartass> because i think that is what is screwing up my sudo
[02:59] <sudo_smartass> anyone?
[02:59] <cdubya> do_while, and you checked the screen resolution settings.....?
[02:59] <do_while> yes, are ok
[02:59] <wastrel> i <3 u
[02:59] <pashaw> sudo_smartass, here use this  http://ez2ba.com/html/site-toys/chmod-guide.html
[02:59] <do_while> I use eMac
[03:00] <ceu> What can I use to download (and keep updated) a list of .deb packages?
[03:01] <Kovecses> how do i disable the totem-mozilla plugin?
[03:02] <sudo_smartass> oh crap!!!
[03:02] <cdubya> heh
[03:02] <sethk> ceu, synaptic, apt-get, dpkg, dselect
[03:02] <sudo_smartass> now i really need help
[03:03] <sethk> sudo_smartass, you should _never_ use numbers with chmod
[03:03] <sudo_smartass> i just chmodded my /usr directory back to 744 and now my desktop and everything else disappeared?!!
[03:03] <sethk> sudo_smartass, you can say a+r  to give everyone read
[03:03] <nix4me> Kovecses - delete it
[03:03] <sethk> sudo_smartass, it didn't disappear, but you can't see it
[03:03] <sudo_smartass> why cant i see it?!
[03:03] <|quad|> i am running dapper and have a problem with the nvidia-glx package. it gives an error "trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/nvidia-settings', which is also in package nvidia-settings
[03:03] <sethk> sudo_smartass, boot the install cd in rescue mode or boot a live cd and restore the permissions
[03:03] <sudo_smartass> how do i get it back?!
[03:03] <cdubya> heh, I use numbers all the time.
[03:04] <|quad|> should i uninstall nvidia-settings?
[03:04] <sethk> cdubya, very bad idea
[03:04] <cdubya> heh
[03:04] <sudo_smartass> how do i restore without losing everything that i have installed?
[03:04] <wastrel> what's wrong with using numbers in chmod?
[03:04] <sethk> sudo_smartass, you haven't lost anything
[03:04] <sudo_smartass> ok... i got the terminal window still...
[03:04] <sethk> wastrel, if I have to explain it, it's probably hopeless.  But what just happened should give you an idea
[03:04] <sudo_smartass> if i chmod is back to 777 will it come back?
[03:04] <sethk> sudo_smartass, probably, but you haven't learned anything
[03:04] <wastrel> i'm curious because i've always used the number arguments to chmod
[03:04] <Rapierian> if I'm running firestarter, what sort of settings should I put for my internal interface?
[03:05] <sethk> sudo_smartass, don't do numbers.  chmod a+rwx, if you must
[03:05] <Rapierian> as in, what ip and such
[03:05] <sethk> wastrel, it's horribly error prone, and totally unnecessary.
[03:05] <pokesomi> i still cant get my wireless card to work
[03:05] <ceu> sethk: I need those .debs on my pc, but I can't download them here (I have only a dial-up link), I need to download them on a remote pc
[03:05] <sudo_smartass> then i need to change the /usr directory back to the way it was orignially... i need to set it back to root with all permissions and everyone else i guess just read or something
[03:05] <sethk> ceu, oh, then you can make that location where you download them a repository for your ubuntu machine
[03:05] <sudo_smartass> i need to change the uid back to root and everything else back to the way it normally was... default...
[03:06] <pashaw> sethk,   my fault  i use numbers all day long    ill have to get this safer system down
[03:06] <sudo_smartass> what is the default permissions for the /usr directory
[03:06] <sethk> sudo_smartass, change it back to exactly what it was.  If you tell us the directory, we can tell you the permissions
[03:06] <cdubya> sethk, haven't run into probs yet.
[03:06] <sethk> pashaw, it's easy.  u for user, g for group, o for other, a for all.
[03:06] <foxgamer> Hi all. I have a webcam for xmas, and I'm having probs running it. Anyone have time to help?
[03:06] <sethk> cdubya, it's a bit more difficult, and it's error prone, and there is no benefit.  so why do it?
[03:07] <pashaw> sethk,   i see where it would be more obvious your talking stuff away
[03:07] <pashaw> sethk,   err *taking
[03:07] <ceu> sethk: can you suggest me what software can I use to make a repository?
[03:07] <sethk> pashaw, right
[03:07] <cdubya> sethk, because it's all I've ever done. :)
[03:07] <cdubya> heh
[03:07] <sethk> ceu, you don't need any special software.  you can just have it as an NFS Mounted directory (assuming its on another *NIX machine)
[03:07] <cdubya> sethk, np using the letters, though.
[03:07] <nalioth> ceu: visit debian.org and have a look at the new maintainers guide (follower the developer links on the left side)
[03:08] <ceu> thank you
[03:09] <pokesomi> can anyone walk me can someone walk me through getting the wireless card working?
[03:09] <HymnToLife> anyone knows a good howto for setting up a network with 2 ubuntu PCs and a crossed cable ?
[03:10] <pokesomi> can someone watch my webcam so they can help me get my wireless card working?
[03:10] <pashaw> HymnToLife,   for you?
[03:10] <^Ocean^> what do i modify to upgrade too the DapperDrake ?
[03:11] <HymnToLife> pashaw > yes
[03:11] <^Ocean^> er what do I add in apt-sources
[03:11] <Kyral> ^Ocean^: You mean the Soucess.list?
[03:11] <HymnToLife> it's driving me mad
[03:11] <^Ocean^> yea
[03:11] <pashaw> HymnToLife,  ill pm you ok
[03:11] <Kyral> ^Ocean^: change all instances of breezy to dapper
[03:11] <sethk> HymnToLife, that is about the easiest thing in the world to set up
[03:11] <gverig> Does Gnome have a good way of reading RSS feeds, something like Akregator?
[03:11] <Kyral> and disable security, updates, and backports
[03:11] <Kyral> those don't exist in Dapper right now :P
[03:11] <pokesomi> CAN anyone help me please this is driving me crazy!!!!
[03:11] <pashaw> sethk,   heh  thats why i was gunna walk hiw through it
[03:11] <^Ocean^> okay and what do I have todo to be able to su ?
[03:12] <HymnToLife> sethk > well, if you've never done it before it is not :p
[03:12] <Kyral> ^Ocean^: eh? Sudo?
[03:12] <sethk> HymnToLife, all you have to do is set the ip and netmask on each box
[03:12] <^Ocean^> well with every linux distro iv run to date.  when i wanna become root i just type "su"  then it asks for password thats it
[03:12] <MarcN> gverig: I use bloglines.com for reading RSS feeds.  I;'ve tried desktop-centric apps, but like the server based ones.
[03:13] <HymnToLife> !sudo
[03:13] <^Ocean^> I type su  now put the password in says login incorrect
[03:13] <nrgetik> ^Ocean^ you use sudo
[03:13] <nalioth> gverig: there are several ways to read rss
[03:13] <Blocky> Hey guys, I'm trying to talk to some buddies on Teamspeak 2, and they say they can hear me, but im REALY REALY quiet.  Where can I reset the settings on the microphone???
[03:13] <Kyral> ^Ocean^: use sudo
[03:13] <nrgetik> where in gnome2/ubuntu can i set file associations?
[03:13] <gverig> nalioth: And those are... (lets skip reading XML, it's possible but unpleasant)?
[03:14] <BoukenPink> How do I change what keys fceu uses? It doesn't seem to be working for me, and the keys aren't used as it says they are in the man.
[03:14] <Blocky> Anyone know?
[03:14] <nrgetik> no Blocky
[03:14] <nalioth> gverig: a panel app is yarssr, and a standalong client is liferea. don't forget your rss firefox extensions
[03:14] <gverig> MarcN: bloglines... Do you set up a list for yourself and then set it like a homepage for your browser or something?
[03:15] <nrgetik> does anyone know where in gnome2/ubuntu i can configure file associations?
[03:15] <gverig> nalioth: I was looking for something with that Ubuntu triangle in Synaptic but didn't find anything.
[03:15] <gverig> nalioth: is yarssr good?
[03:15] <MarcN> gverig: you can import an opml list of feeds and it will keep the feeds updated.  An account is free.
[03:16] <gverig> MarcN: Does it let you mark feeds with new/read/follow up/bookmark?
[03:16] <MarcN> gverig: it is just a website.   It is much, much better than google reader.      I've used amphetadesk (web-based, perl rss aggregator) for a quite a while, but it had no atom support.
[03:17] <nrgetik> does anyone know where in gnome2/ubuntu i can configure file associations?
[03:17] <nalioth> gverig: try it and see
[03:17] <gverig> MarcN: I c, thanks. I'll check this one out.
[03:17] <MarcN> gverig: you can mark a feed as read, save interesting entries, etc.  has some blogging features I don't use.  Have a nice bookmarklet for adding new feeds.
[03:18] <MarcN> gverig: by default the list of feeds you read is public, but you can change that on a per-feed basis.
[03:18] <gverig> nalioth: OK, getting it now.
[03:18] <gverig> MarcN: Sounds like sophisticated enough, thanks! I'll check it out.
[03:19] <MarcN> gverig: /me has almost 400 feeds
[03:19] <pokesomi> Ok i really need some help I am trying to get ubuntu to recognize my wireless card but after several edits and some sudo codes nothing.  Can anyone walk me through hwo to do this?
[03:20] <nrgetik> pokesomi
[03:20] <nrgetik> thats all in the wiki
[03:20] <pokesomi> ii followed the instructions in the wiki, still nothing
[03:20] <nrgetik> are you sure your card is listed as being supported?>
[03:20] <pokesomi> what cards are supported
[03:20] <nrgetik> there's a link in the wiki...
[03:21] <nrgetik> pokesomi https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[03:21] <nrgetik> read the entire thing
[03:21] <pashaw> !tell pokesomi about wifi
[03:22] <nrgetik> pashaw do you know where i can set file associations?
[03:22] <unf> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/newsitems/newmedia.html
[03:22] <pashaw> nrgetik,   havent messed with any of mine
[03:22] <nrgetik> ffs
[03:23] <nrgetik> i want media files to open in gxine, not this retarded tatum player or whatever
[03:23] <nrgetik> totum
[03:23] <Kyral> nrgetik: right click and select Open With..I think
[03:23] <nalioth> nrgetik: please respect us with your language choices
[03:23] <nrgetik> yeah Kyral but that doesnt set the default association from that point on
[03:23] <nrgetik> nalioth acronym?
[03:24] <Kyral> nrgetik: I dunno I don't use Nautilus....or any GUI Filemanager
[03:24] <nalioth> nrgetik: let us be civil.
[03:24] <nrgetik> nalioth for all you know ffs means fire fighting salamanders
[03:24] <ions> anyone here know anything about data recovery
[03:24] <Kyral> ions: what kind?
[03:24] <ions> undoing the last rm in bash maybe?
[03:24] <Kyral> ions: I don't know how to
[03:24] <ions> apparently it's complicated
[03:25] <Kyral> yah it is
[03:25] <ions> I thought a dir was empty and it was not
[03:25] <nrgetik> i dont think ext3 is a fs where things are recoverable
[03:25] <Kyral> I know what HAPPENS during an RM
[03:25] <pokesomi> the wlan0 refuses to work
[03:25] <nrgetik> i dont think ext3 is a fs where things are recoverable
[03:25] <ions> ugh
[03:25] <Kyral> It is possible
[03:25] <Kyral> if I think I know what happens
[03:25] <ions> I just killed a list of contacts for my gf's business
[03:25] <Kyral> lol
[03:25] <nrgetik> good she probably deserves it
[03:25] <ions> lol
[03:26] <ions> nice
[03:26] <pashaw> nrgetik,   whats your problem
[03:26] <j2dope> !easysource
[03:26] <ubotu> well, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:26] <nrgetik> pashaw how do you mean?
[03:26] <ions> that was mean
[03:26] <ions> that's how he means
[03:26] <pokesomi> operation not permitted
[03:26] <ions> was my dumbass fault
[03:26] <nrgetik> boo hoo
[03:27] <nrgetik> it was a joke
[03:27] <pashaw> ions,  making backups is a tough lesson to learn        i see it at work all day long too
[03:27] <spanglesontoast> why does my computer er beep
[03:27] <ions> yeah...that's the funny part I WAS making a backup
[03:27] <spanglesontoast> in firefox
[03:27] <pokesomi> wlan0 doesnt even show up
[03:27] <pashaw> ions,   really with rm    hows that?  :P
[03:27] <ions> I forgot to ls to check if the docs had moces
[03:28] <ions> *moved
[03:28] <Kyral> lol
[03:28] <pashaw> ions,   you used -R  switch then also
[03:28] <ions> yeah
[03:28] <pokesomi> guys i really need help here
[03:28] <pashaw> ions,   thats 2 mistakes in a row   tough lesson
[03:28] <ions> I think the fs is ext2
[03:28] <cdubya> anyone know of a calendar app that works with the gnome calendar applet like evolution did?
[03:28] <Kyral> pokesomi: it might be something with NDiswrapper
[03:28] <ions> it's on an old RH machine
[03:28] <Kyral> cdubya: Evolution? :P
[03:28] <cdubya> heh
[03:28] <cdubya> umm, no
[03:29] <pokesomi> so what can i do about that
[03:29] <cdubya> that's what I don't want to use
[03:29] <Kyral> !ndiswrapper
[03:29] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is, like, a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[03:29] <pokesomi> i have used that and tried it but it  doesnt work either
[03:29] <Kyral> pokesomi: I dunno then
[03:30] <Kyral> Wireless is like the last frontier on Linux Hardware Support
[03:31] <cdubya> what's the package name to install kde?
[03:31] <cdubya> is it kde-desktop?
[03:31] <Kyral> kubuntu-desktop
[03:31] <nalioth> cdubya: kubuntu-desktop
[03:31] <cdubya> kewl, thanks nalioth
[03:31] <WebLOCH> allo all
[03:32] <cdubya> gwenview is a dep?
[03:32] <Kyral> cdubya: I guess lol
[03:32] <sudo_smartass> oh thank god
[03:32] <sudo_smartass> ok
[03:32] <sudo_smartass> now im in deep
[03:32] <Kyral> cdubya: Kubuntu-Desktop is KDE + a lot of KDE Related Apps
[03:33] <sudo_smartass> i cant get the gui to come up when i load linux
[03:33] <sudo_smartass> i dont know what to do in recover mode
[03:33] <cdubya> ugh.
[03:33] <Kyral> sudo_smartass: sudo apt-get -f install?
[03:33] <junlp3r> I am new mwmbwe and newbie, I just install ubuntu a few minutes ago and i need to install php, mysql and apache, how to start
[03:33] <sudo_smartass> i cant chmod the /usr directory back to the way it was... it wont take any kind of changes now
[03:34] <sudo_smartass> it stays at 777
[03:34] <crafteh> Anyone know how to get amarok to detect m4a files? Mine can play them, but it doesn't add them to my library when I rescan...
[03:34] <sudo_smartass> whats the -f install for?
[03:34] <Kyral> ... sudo_smartass you hit one of the big "OOPS!" that completely bones your system
[03:34] <sudo_smartass> what?
[03:34] <sudo_smartass> no
[03:34] <sudo_smartass> dont tell me that
[03:34] <nalioth> ubotu: tell junlp3r about lamp
[03:34] <sudo_smartass> there has to be a way to get it back to the way it was
[03:34] <WebLOCH> can anyone tell me how  to change the default applications for filetypes?
[03:34] <nalioth> junlp3r: read your PM from ubotu
[03:35] <pashaw> sudo_smartass,   you changed full directory permissions how many times tonight had to be 4-5
[03:35] <junlp3r> ok thanks, nalioth
[03:35] <WebLOCH> Anyone fancy helping me with my sensors problem ?
[03:36] <sudo_smartass> pas ive only changed the /usr directory twice... once i did a chmod 777 then when it started asking me to setuid root for sudo i changed it to chmod 744
[03:36] <cdubya> is kubuntu-desktop hidden somewhere in the repos that synaptic doesn't list it.....?
[03:36] <sudo_smartass> then i lost the gui
[03:36] <Wammy> I just added a PCI IDE card
[03:36] <sudo_smartass> and i cant get it back now
[03:36] <Kyral> cdubya: have Universe and Multiverse enabled?
[03:36] <Wammy> ive got my hard drives pluged in and the card detects them, but i dont see them here.
[03:36] <sudo_smartass> so what do i have to do to make it back to the way it was...
[03:36] <Wammy> linux wont see them for some reason
[03:36] <pashaw> Wammy,    type  fdisk -l    do they show up
[03:36] <Kyral> sudo_smartass: reinstall and don't do it again
[03:37] <cdubya> yep
[03:37] <Kyral> cdubya: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:37] <sudo_smartass> is there a place on the disk where i can just copy the /usr directory into the / directory and replace all the /usr permissions
[03:37] <cdubya> did that.
[03:37] <cdubya> keep getting dep issues
[03:37] <sudo_smartass> by disk i mean cd
[03:37] <Kyral> cdubya: what are you on? Breezy?
[03:37] <Wammy> pashaw, nope, only hda
[03:37] <cdubya> yep
[03:37] <Kyral> what kind of Dep issues...use Pastebin
[03:38] <pashaw> Wammy,   original kernel or did you compile your own
[03:38] <Toma-> sudo_smartass: re-install.
[03:38] <Wammy> original
[03:38] <sudo_smartass> but... damnit
[03:38] <sudo_smartass> ok
[03:38] <Toma-> sudo_smartass: ive asked around, google, and found that deb cant restore permissions globally like rpm :(
[03:38] <pashaw> Wammy,   what pci card?    and does it show up with lspci
[03:38] <sudo_smartass> where can i find a list of everything i have installed on it...
[03:39] <phreak97> can someone please tell me where the option to turn off the "(13:08:22) .:: [ Bakke ]  ::. has closed the conversation window." message in gaim?
[03:39] <Wammy> 0000:01:0e.0 RAID bus controller: Integrated Technology Express, Inc. IT/ITE8212 Dual channel ATA RAID controller (PCI version seems to be IT8212, embedded seems (rev 13)
[03:39] <sudo_smartass> i dont need a global... just a /usr
[03:39] <sudo_smartass> ok
[03:39] <phreak97> is*
[03:39] <sorush20> avast is working great..
[03:39] <sudo_smartass> if it cant do it recursively i will manually change every directory and its parent folder...
[03:39] <cdubya> Kyral, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6245
[03:39] <Toma-> sudo_smartass: youve still got a butt-load of different permissions in there. alot of non-executable and alot of executables
[03:39] <DShepherd> I cant get yelp or firefox started. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6244 <-- can anyone shed some light
[03:40] <Wammy> pashaw, did you see above?
[03:40] <sudo_smartass> what is the extensions of exe vs non exe?
[03:40] <Kyral> cdubya: try to install gwenview
[03:40] <Kyral> sudo_smartass: none
[03:40] <sudo_smartass> what?
[03:40] <cdubya> kyral, heh did taht
[03:40] <sudo_smartass> ok
[03:40] <sudo_smartass> better idea... kinda
[03:40] <Kyral> the only difference is the Executable bit
[03:40] <pashaw> Wammy,   never used one of those  hoping you would say promise card  :)
[03:40] <cdubya> then got a list of others....and others...and others...
[03:40] <sudo_smartass> who has broadband?
[03:40] <Kyral> cdubya: what happens
[03:40] <Kyral> past that
[03:41] <Kyral> into Pastbin
[03:41] <nalioth> sudo_smartass: there is no extension that marks something executable.
[03:41] <UFO> Hi, why should use gnome desktop, i used kde before with debian and suse...
[03:41] <Wammy> pashaw, well thisone is apearantly supported
[03:41] <Wammy> i might just not be doing something
[03:41] <Kyral> UFO: Its all your choice
[03:41] <Kyral> UFO: you can use KDE
[03:41] <nalioth> UFO: if you like kde, install "kubuntu-desktop"
[03:41] <pashaw> Wammy,   any idea what module supports that
[03:41] <Toma-> DShepherd: u still here?
[03:41] <Wammy> pashaw, ?
[03:41] <cdubya> Kyral, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6246
[03:41] <pashaw> Wammy,   sorry  didnt think so   ill search for it
[03:42] <sudo_smartass> if someone sends me their /usr bin... that wont work either huh because they will have proggies in there i dont have installed and then i will run into a bunch of dependancy issues huh???
[03:42] <TooEarly> I have a raid-0 with two 80gig hd's...and kubuntu sees them, but only the windows part of it, and i have no problem mounting that (it's a fat32 partition) but the part i want to mount which has all my files, says it's unformatted..and i can't mount it..how do i make that work?
[03:42] <Kyral> cdubya: paste your source.list into pastebin
[03:42] <pashaw> sudo_smartass,   backup your programs installed with this  see if it runs
[03:42] <sudo_smartass> or could i just use the synaptic manager to upgrade and find the dependancies
[03:42] <Kyral> sudo_smartass: seriously its gonna be faster to reinstall
[03:43] <sudo_smartass> ok... pash... what program?
[03:43] <nalioth> sudo_smartass: yes. a reinstall is the best advice you can take
[03:43] <cdubya> Kyral, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6248
[03:43] <pashaw> sudo_smartass,   dpkg --get-selection \* > a.file     start in your home directory  and run that
[03:43] <kbrooks> nalioth, Why does he have to reinstall?
[03:44] <sudo_smartass> ok everyone... dont chmod ur /usr directory... not a good idea...
[03:44] <nalioth> kbrooks: because he's spent several hours in here repermissioning his system
[03:44] <sudo_smartass> lol not several hours... only took a few minutes
[03:44] <sorush20> sudo_smartass:  you okay?
[03:44] <kbrooks> nalioth, well, a chmod -R is a bad idea
[03:44] <sudo_smartass> no so... lol i wanna cry
[03:44] <Kyral> cdubya: WTF!? Debian Sources?!
[03:44] <nalioth> sudo_smartass: read this http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/09/msg00152.html
[03:44] <cdubya> huh?
[03:44] <blahasdf> whats the password on the livecd for root?
[03:45] <mirsh> hello. i have a problem with x. i need to restore the xorg.config file, but none of my backups seem to be present for some totally weird reason. is there any way to create a new x configuration or to restore it from a "default" sample of it?
[03:45] <Kyral> cdubya: no wonder your system is boned
[03:45] <pashaw> sudo_smartass,   your learning plus your ntfs is still safe    remember
[03:45] <UFO> any easy way to intall skype on ubuntu...
[03:45] <sudo_smartass> ahh yes
[03:45] <nalioth> blahasdf: there is none.
[03:45] <sudo_smartass> thats the good part
[03:45] <Kyral> cdubya: I don't know why its not fscked up right now
[03:45] <sudo_smartass> all my important stuff is still dafe
[03:45] <mirsh> *i mean xorg.conf of course
[03:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell UFO about skype
[03:45] <sudo_smartass> safe
[03:45] <sudo_smartass> better put that stuff on disc
[03:45] <cdubya> heh....never had any issues before
[03:45] <sudo_smartass> ok
[03:45] <sudo_smartass> thanks for the help
[03:45] <blahasdf> nalioth, well when i try to su it asks for a password, and i don't put anything and it says invalid password
[03:46] <kbrooks> cdubya, never?
[03:46] <sudo_smartass> i will let you know in a few hours how it turned out
[03:46] <nalioth> blahasdf: there is no root account. use sudo
[03:46] <Kyral> kbrooks: did you see that thing?
[03:46] <Wammy> pashaw, any ideas?
[03:46] <cdubya> kbrooks, nope
[03:46] <pashaw> Wammy,   easy im slow
[03:46] <bk> so, ubuntu doesn't have a 'root'?
[03:46] <kbrooks> Kyral, no
[03:46] <kbrooks> bk: it does
[03:47] <nalioth> bk: no it does not.
[03:47] <ElitePete> i just put ubuntu breezy on my other machine, sudo apt-get install limewire doesn't work any ideas? i have the universe/multiverse repo's
[03:47] <pashaw> Wammy,    do a lsmod    and look for anything like  IT821
[03:47] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bk about root
[03:47] <kbrooks> nalioth, um, the root user exists
[03:47] <Kyral> kbrooks: its filled with Debian sources
[03:47] <bk> yes, no.  i'm thinking no, avger doing research.
[03:47] <cdubya> heh, thanks Kyral
[03:47] <blahasdf> i need to burn a cd on the livecd... is there a utility for this?
[03:47] <kbrooks> bk: no
[03:47] <Kyral> cdubya: use this one
[03:47] <Wammy> pashaw, nothing starting with 'it'
[03:47] <Kyral> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6249
[03:48] <Kyral> I edited it and corrected it
[03:48] <bk> then how do you do admin stuff?
[03:48] <phreak97> has anyone got a relatively fresh ubuntu install?
[03:48] <MarcN> kbrooks: yes there is a root, but it is well hidden.  use sudo or sudo -s
[03:48] <ElitePete> i just put ubuntu breezy on my other machine, sudo apt-get install limewire doesn't work any ideas? i have the universe/multiverse repo's
[03:48] <nalioth> bk: use sudo and your user password
[03:48] <bk> let me try.
[03:48] <nalioth> MarcN: sudo -i is preferred
[03:49] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ElitePete about limewire
[03:49] <cdubya> Kyral, thanks
[03:49] <ElitePete> thx
[03:49] <kbrooks> MarcN, i'm not a ubuntu newbie. don't treat me like i'm one
[03:49] <Kyral> cdubya: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade before trying again
[03:49] <Kyral> yah kbrooks knows a lot :D
[03:49] <cdubya> Kyral, too late.........:(
[03:50] <Kyral> cdubya: eh?
[03:50] <cdubya> yeah, I'd already started it....
[03:50] <Kyral> cdubya: which command?
[03:50] <pashaw> Wammy,  i can tell you that controller is giving lots of people problems in linux
[03:50] <Wammy> hrm
[03:50] <Wammy> what kinda problems/
[03:50] <cdubya> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:51] <cdubya> it's all coming down right now
[03:51] <Kyral> cdubya: did you update with the new Sources.list?
[03:51] <cdubya> yep
[03:51] <pashaw> Wammy,   same thing your having
[03:51] <Kyral> okay then its okay :D
[03:51] <Wammy> lol, bah
[03:51] <Kyral> cdubya: some things may break a bit though
[03:51] <Wammy> is there a way to get around it?
[03:51] <cdubya> Kyral, after I commented out the debian sources in my original....but pasted yours in after that
[03:51] <cdubya> Kyral, lol, it's all good
[03:51] <cdubya> Kyral, if it doesn't work, I'll just use Gnome
[03:52] <Kyral> I'd flat out replace yours with mine
[03:52] <cdubya> or xfce
[03:52] <cdubya> did that
[03:52] <cdubya> I've never had any issues.
[03:52] <cdubya> heh
[03:52] <cdubya> as shocking as that is
[03:52] <daki> is there a way to keep apt from trying to downgrade a package.  I installed a newer version, but others depend on the older version, so it keeps trying to downgrade
[03:52] <nalioth> ubotu: tell daki about pinning
[03:52] <Kyral> daki: what package?
[03:52] <cdubya> I need to setup kdm for this
[03:53] <pashaw> Wammy,   heres a link  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=154256
[03:53] <nalioth> cdubya: kde works fine with gdm
[03:53] <cdubya> k
[03:53] <BlackEntity> How do I force a 32 bit package on a 64 bit machine?
[03:53] <Wammy> pashaw, ok, let me look
[03:53] <BlackEntity> as to install that is
[03:54] <nalioth> BlackEntity: you dont force anything. you use a chroot
[03:54] <BlackEntity> please elaborate
[03:54] <pashaw> Wammy,   here this also  read ONBOARD RAID controller section http://www.jimmy.co.at/weblog/?m=200408
[03:54] <nalioth> BlackEntity: you can also compile it for the 64bit environment
[03:54] <daki> Kyral:I installed freetype with bci
[03:54] <BlackEntity> Trying to get cedega installed :(
[03:55] <cdubya> brb
[03:55] <ElitePete> !azureus
[03:55] <ubotu> azureus is probably a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[03:55] <nickrud> out of curiosity, has anyone tried to run cedega out of a chroot?
[03:56] <BlackEntity> >_<
[03:56] <psusi> java is the debil
[03:56] <crafteh> anyone know of a m4a audio converter?
[03:56] <nalioth> crafteh: convert to what?
[03:56] <crimsun> !info faad2
[03:56] <crimsun> !info faad
[03:56] <ubotu> faad: (freeware Advanced Audio Decoder player), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 2.0.0+cvs20040908+mp4v2+bmp-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 80 kB
[03:57] <crafteh> nalioth, something like ogg or mp3?
[03:58] <nalioth> crafteh: if you've got the right codecs onboard, you should be able to convert to anything. having faad and / or faac codecs will let you listen to them as is
[03:58] <crafteh> do i decode to pcm and then encode it with the new codec?
[03:58] <nalioth> crafteh: if you like.
[03:58] <crafteh> how would you recommend? i'd probably lose the tags if I did it like that... right?
[03:59] <nalioth> probably so
[03:59] <nalioth> i have m4as and mp4s and aacs and they all play fine
[03:59] <damian_> hi guys, I have a question. I'm trying to create a new folder in my system and its showing greyed, how can I create a folder?
[03:59] <phreak97> i need someone to take a screenshot of the window which shows what is going to be removed when you mark Miscellaneous - Graphical > gsfonts-x11 to be removed in synaptic
[03:59] <crimsun> you shouldn't need to decode them anyway.
[03:59] <phreak97> then i can fix all my problems
[03:59] <crimsun> most players in Ubuntu can handle m4as.
[03:59] <Kyral> damian_: mkdir <name>
[03:59] <basilcrow> how can I get mpd to recognize my m4as?
[04:00] <crafteh> nalioth, for some reason i can't get amarok to pick up the m4a's when it scans... they play though if i add them to the playlist manually
[04:00] <BlackEntity> In other words this is going to be a bitch?
[04:00] <damian_> kyral, I've tried that and it didn't work
[04:00] <crafteh> nalioth, what media player do you use?
[04:00] <nalioth> crafteh: they are kind of a new format
[04:00] <Kyral> damian_: whats the rror?
[04:00] <crimsun> crafteh: that's a known issue with amarok 1.3.x, it's fixed in 1_4
[04:00] <nalioth> crafteh: rhythmbox
[04:00] <UFO> is it true if want to use all the software i have to install 32bit version of the ubuntu? i could not intall the skype...
[04:01] <crafteh> and rhythmbox handles them fine?
[04:01] <damian_> I think I fix the problem, thanks
[04:01] <Kyral> lol
[04:01] <nalioth> UFO:  it's better to use a 32bit arch, for maximum entertainability
[04:01] <jkelly2005> hi, i need some help. ubuntu fails to compile libdvdcss and i have build-essential installed. it fails with this error configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[04:01] <nalioth> crafteh: as i said earlier, they play fine
[04:01] <psusi> UFO, depends... if the software is open source, then it should compile fine on 64 bit and so is availible... if it is proprietary, it may only be availible in 32bit versions
[04:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jkelly2005 about libdvdcss
[04:02] <psusi> i.e. the proprietary flash plugins for firefox are only 32bit... my attitude is fsck 'em, I don't need that crap
[04:02] <BlackEntity> yes please do
[04:02] <UFO> so i have to recompile everything...
[04:02] <phreak97> come on, theres gotta be a tonne of people out there who could do it
[04:02] <crafteh> nalioth, nice... rhythmbox has a cleaner interface too
[04:02] <crafteh> thanks
[04:02] <psusi> UFO, if you install it through synaptic or another apt tool that gets it from the ubuntu repositories, no
[04:02] <BlackEntity> Benn googling chroot for 32 bit enviroment, uhg
[04:02] <nalioth> UFO: some things cannot be recompiled, cuz they are not open source
[04:02] <BlackEntity> been*
[04:03] <BlackEntity> anyways I can't go back to 32 bit becuase the clock is skewed
[04:03] <burnhamd> ryhtmbox is very good
[04:03] <BlackEntity> Plus I can't install the ati driver on 64 bit
[04:03] <phreak97> is anyone here running ubuntu right now?
[04:03] <Wammy> pashaw, how do i install the kernel source? apt-get install kernel-source/
[04:04] <Wammy> ?
[04:04] <nalioth> phreak97: we're all running geos
[04:04] <burnhamd> phreak97: this is the ubuntu hannel
[04:04] <nalioth> Wammy: you can search in synaptic
[04:04] <UFO> Yes, wonderfull and i have the ati x700 gpu on the laptop...
[04:04] <WebLOCH> im running fubuntu
[04:04] <WebLOCH> the free version of ubuntu
[04:04] <BlackEntity> so I have the choice of running my games in 32 bit with acceleration, but at twice the speed, or getting 64 bit version and dicking with DMA and acceleration but with a good clock
[04:04] <BlackEntity> I'm running JewBuntu
[04:04] <WebLOCH> i ordered it from free-ubuntu.org and it only cost 5 to get shipped
[04:04] <Wammy> nalioth, always good to know the command line tho
[04:05] <burnhamd> u run ubuntu breezy amd64 and then dapper in ia32
[04:05] <phreak97> burnhamd, then why am i having so much trouble getting someone to take me a screenshot of something?
[04:05] <burnhamd> phreak97 what screenshot do you want
[04:05] <BlackEntity> It's Jewtacular
[04:05] <nalioth> Wammy: in this case it's easier with synaptic, imho
[04:06] <BlackEntity> You're a ho?
[04:06] <WebLOCH> does the name black entity refer to the colour of your  skin?
[04:06] <nalioth> WebLOCH: be civil.
[04:06] <WebLOCH> nalioth, i was, i was just asking...
[04:06] <phreak97> i need a shot of the things which synaptic are going to remove when you check gsfonts-x11 for removal
[04:06] <Kyral> Uhoh
[04:06] <Kyral> nalioth pulled out his Ops
[04:06] <phreak97> is*
[04:06] <Kyral> things must be serious
[04:07] <nalioth> WebLOCH: none of us have a skin color here, we are textually represented
[04:07] <phreak97> burnhamd, thats all
[04:07] <WebLOCH> nalioth, whatever floats your boat, i was just interested
[04:07] <WebLOCH> im too mongrelled to be racist
[04:07] <Kyral> WebLOCH: you PAID for Ubuntu?
[04:07] <WebLOCH> Kyral, i was only joking
[04:07] <burnhamd> phreak97: can you be more clear its lare and I cant follow
[04:07] <WebLOCH> nalioth,  fair point
[04:07] <Kyral> WebLOCH: I was about to say lol
[04:08] <WebLOCH> Kyral, its my poor english humour
[04:08] <daki> ahhh, nalioth, I think pinning won't work.  I guess I should clarify a little
[04:08] <paulproteus|lapt> phreak97: Do you know about System -> Take Screenshot ?
[04:09] <phreak97> in synaptic, when you chech gsfonts-x11 to be removed (you dont have to apply it) it comes up with a dialogue saying "these will also be removed if you remove this" i need a screenshot of that dialogue
[04:09] <Wammy> erm, in synaptic i see kernel-tree-2.6.11 but i have (acording to uname)  2.6.12-10
[04:09] <phreak97> paulproteus|lapt, i cant do it, i broke it and i need to know what got removed
[04:09] <paulproteus|lapt> phreak97: Oh, okay.  I'll take that screenshot for you.
[04:09] <phreak97> thanks
[04:09] <burnhamd> not if i do it first
[04:10] <paulproteus|lapt> burnhamd: Hah, okay.
[04:10] <phreak97> lol
[04:10] <daki> I forced the install of a package, which I had converted through alien from rpm, and now it conflicts and wants to be removed.  I've been running it without any problem though, so I need apt to ignore this
[04:10] <Wammy> so if im running kernel  2.6.12-10 which source to i install?
[04:10] <nalioth> daki: what program?
[04:10] <burnhamd> phreak97 no other dependencies are asked to be removed on mine
[04:11] <paulproteus|lapt> phreak97: I don't currently have it installed.
[04:11] <phreak97> uh oh
[04:11] <nalioth> Wammy: if you search for kernel-source it should grab the version you need
[04:11] <Kyral> nalioth: it won't lol
[04:11] <Wammy> nalioth, i get 3
[04:11] <paulproteus|lapt> phreak97: Try doing: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop