[01:50] <BigToe> bah, have to reboot because I did software update
[01:50] <manience> ikonia: thx
[01:50] <ikonia> manience: no problem, you may want to check as what I'm saying is from memory
[01:50] <hjmills> BIGDADDY: then grub should look for it on (hd3,<partition / is on>)
[01:50] <manience> vvlaw: did u compile mplayer ever before successful?
[01:51] <ikonia> vvlaw: why are you compiling software ?
[01:52] <BIGDADDY> i also have windows xp on the first 2 hardrives wich i can see when i boot up but i dont see grub is there anyway to put grub on the first hardrive?
[01:52] <AlphaFaction> hey folks, anyone got any idea why ubuntu crashes unless i have dri disabled?
[01:52] <vvlaw> manience, yeap,the first time it successful
[01:52] <ikonia> BIGDADDY: grub is mean to go on your boot drive
[01:52] <break_> alright, how about this thing asking me how much video RAM to let this crap use?
[01:52] <ikonia> break_: ignore that
[01:52] <break_> Enter the amount of memory (in kB) to be used by your video card.
[01:52] <break_> just continue?
 gfx card or drivers dont support it
[01:53] <ikonia> yes
[01:53] <Jowi> AlphaFaction, sounds like a video card driver problem
[01:53] <BIGDADDY> yes but how do i get grub to the boot drive?
[01:53] <break_> i have an NVIDIA 7900GT
[01:53] <manience> ! by the way, theres no entry in the menu.lst to deactivate the splash boot screen
[01:53] <manience> vvlaw: uhm.. very strange
[01:53] <ikonia> BIGDADDY: there is a grub install guide on https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:53] <BIGDADDY> i did install ubuntu from cd and let it do all of it
[01:53] <vvlaw> ikonia, because when i installed the mplayer by the apt way ,it worked fine,but there has no mp3lib support, i want to complie it to use mp3lib fuction ...
[01:53] <AlphaFaction> Mightily-Oats:  its a 6600 nvidia card with the latest ubuntu drivers
[01:53] <ikonia> vvlaw: really I thought you could add mp3lib support to it
[01:54] <ikonia> vvlaw: my tip would be get the source deb - alter it from there and re-package
[01:54] <ikonia> so apt can track it
[01:54] <Mightily-Oats> ok.. the nvidia drivers are installed.. has the xorg.conf file been edited
[01:54] <manience> vvlaw: ikonia is right
[01:54] <manience> vvlaw: try this
[01:54] <AlphaFaction> Mightily-Oats: yep
[01:55] <break_>  Use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[01:55] <break_> yes or no?
[01:55] <ikonia> no
[01:56] <PriceChild> I have the rewrite module loaded, and .htaccess edited...  but I'm not getting rewrites.... any ideas anyone?
[01:56] <break_> haha, what kind of mouse do i have
[01:56] <ikonia> PriceChild: is the error_log showing anything, eg writes attempted and failing or just not happening
[01:56] <break_> ImPS/2 or ExplorerPS/2
[01:56] <ikonia> break_: we don't know
[01:57] <ikonia> break_: you'll have to do SOME reading yourself
[01:57] <break_> whats teh difference?!
[01:57] <manience> Deavticate the ubuntu's boot splash screen wo'nt work? also not by editing the menu.lst
[01:57] <Mightily-Oats> umm.. just looking at some info... not sure y it crashes unless its disabled.... but all posts so far are saying to disable it
[01:57] <manience> anyone an idea?
[01:57] <ikonia> break_: you'll have to do SOME reading yourself
[01:57] <PriceChild> ikonia: where's the log? :P
[01:57] <amir> break_:  is it logitech or microsoft or anything else?
[01:58] <ikonia> PriceChild: errr $APACHE_HOME/logs whcih on ubuntu is.....(hang on)
[01:58] <break_> logitech...
 i think you can remove splash and quiet from the menu.lst and it will work
[01:58] <break_> its just a regular mouse. 2 buttons, scrollwheel...
[01:58] <ikonia> PriceChild: /var/log/apache2
[01:58] <PriceChild>  thanks :)
[01:58] <ikonia> no problem
[01:58] <ikonia> break_: you'll have to do SOME reading yourself
[01:58] <Mightily-Oats> its in 2 sections though... one about half way down under default options or somethign.. then the other ones down on the kernel line
[01:59] <amir> break_: if you turn your mouse upside down, look if there is any numbers or anythng decribing the modell
[01:59] <Mightily-Oats> after removing you will have ti run sudo update-grub
[01:59] <bef> any direct way to make ubuntu into kubuntu
[01:59] <Rookie-1> !cedega
[01:59] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[01:59] <bef> if i install KDE will it simply affect all my consoleneeds
[01:59] <break_> M-RAF95?
[01:59] <ikonia> bef: console needs ?
[01:59] <PriceChild> ikonia: File does not exist: /var/www/location/of/path
[01:59] <ikonia> kde is a desktop
[01:59] <manience> Is ubuntu-desktop an important package? or is it an meta package, which could remove securly?
[02:00] <ikonia> PriceChild: is that in the log ?
[02:00] <PriceChild> manience: metapackage needed for upgrades to newer versions
[02:00] <PriceChild> ikonia: yes
[02:00] <PriceChild> ikonia: i snipped it a bit :)
[02:00] <bef> ikonia : kubuntu console runs differently, possibly its the version?
[02:00] <ikonia> I guessed
[02:00] <PriceChild> ikonia: also had the referral url
[02:00] <PriceChild> but that's it
[02:00] <manience> PriceChild: so i couldnt remove it, right?
[02:00] <ikonia> PriceChild: no no, thats fine
[02:00] <PriceChild> manience: course you can :)
[02:00] <BIGDADDY> i did try this one >> Using the Desktop/LiveCD while preserving Windows Bootloader
[02:00] <BIGDADDY> but it never worked
[02:00] <ikonia> PriceChild: looks like its trying to reference a file that doesn't exist in the re-write
[02:01] <amir> break_: nor search in google for logitech M-RAF95
[02:01] <ikonia> PriceChild: can you check the file it wants is there and readable
[02:01] <break_> too late
[02:01] <break_> finished trying to configure this
[02:01] <ikonia> BIGDADDY: I've told you the url for the grub install wiki pages
[02:01] <amir> break_: ok
[02:01] <PriceChild> ikonia: i'm messing with drupal... everything's fine afaik
[02:01] <manience> PriceChild: and whats with upgrading to newer versions of programs include in this metapackage?
[02:01] <ikonia> PriceChild: drupal.....you've passed my skills
[02:01] <BIGDADDY> yes thats where i tried that one but it never worked
[02:01] <break_> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[02:01] <break_>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070106080044
[02:01] <PriceChild> manience: as in dapper to edgy
[02:02] <break_> what does that mean!?
[02:02] <PriceChild> ikonia: thanks for your help :)
[02:02] <ikonia> BIGDADDY: show me the link you used
[02:02] <manience> PriceChild: edgy
[02:02] <ikonia> PriceChild: sorry, I know nothing about drupal
[02:02] <ikonia> PriceChild: I can help with apache issues though
[02:02] <BIGDADDY> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:02] <ikonia> BIGDADDY: thats not the url I gave you
[02:02] <BIGDADDY> or do u think i should try this one ?? Using the Desktop/LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader
[02:02] <ikonia> thats not wven the wiki
[02:03] <PriceChild> manience: no, if you upgrade from for example dapper to edgy, or edgy to feisty then you need i
[02:03] <PriceChild> tt
[02:03] <ikonia> BIGDADDY: FYI: you do need to overwrite the windows boot loader IF you want grub to be the overall bootloader
[02:03] <BIGDADDY> this link u gave me and i did a search for grub https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[02:04] <manience> PriceChild: k, thx
[02:04] <BIGDADDY> ok i will try the Using the Desktop/LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader
[02:05] <manience> PriceChild: if i'll remove it know, could it simply reinstalled via apt?
[02:05] <BIGDADDY> ok wish me luck :)
[02:05] <BIGDADDY> ive already messed up me windows xp :
[02:05] <PriceChild> manience: yes
[02:07] <manience> PriceChild: thx
[02:08] <BIGDADDY> just printing the instructions but be bor i go is there a grub instaler that can do it for me as i a such a noob ?
[02:08] <BIGDADDY> *befor
[02:08] <Igor_V2> how can i install a new theme to my desktop?
[02:08] <symonc_> bump:     i'm having a very peculiar problem --- would be Infinitely appreciative if anyone could help!  i am trying to install Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro, with an ATI X1600 video card... the trouble is, once it boots into X, all I can sort of make out the desktop, except everything is just diagonal lines -- i can't make out the cursor, or read anything. and i cannot switch to a consol to play with the xorg.conf .... Very Weird Indeed ----
[02:08] <symonc_>  I'm out of ideas.
[02:09] <deepsa> ikonia: man you are awesome man you are awesome. i got my sound working all because of you. i read that damn wiki man cool
[02:09] <BIGDADDY> just noticed this : Using the Unofficial "Super Grub Disk what is it?
[02:09] <ikonia> deepsa: good for you, really pleased !
[02:09] <ikonia> deepsa: I really mean that too, well done
[02:09] <deepsa> thanks
[02:10] <redmonkey> Ubuntu is the only Linux that supports all my new hardware out of the box. thumbs up!
[02:10] <ikonia> redmonkey: I don't know about that
[02:10] <BIGDADDY> lol sorry for typos and spelling but i am all self tought and that includes my reading and writing
[02:10] <redmonkey> ikonia: ?
[02:11] <Igor_V2> to install a new theme....whats it's format?
[02:11] <ikonia> redmonkey: its not the only distro - and it certainly doesn't support all out of the box
[02:11] <SimonL> hiya
[02:11] <ikonia> redmonkey: just re-read all "YOUR" support
[02:11] <BigToe> I try to update to 6.10 but keep getting "Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/source/Sources.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)"
[02:11] <ikonia> sorry
[02:11] <redmonkey> ikonia: yes, it IS the only distro that supports my hardware out of the box!
[02:11] <redmonkey> ikonia: how do you know it better?!
[02:12] <redmonkey> ikonia: you dont even know my hardware :)
[02:12] <ikonia> redmonkey: I don't thats why I just said I re-read and said sorry for missreading
[02:12] <BigToe> I try to update to 6.10 but keep getting "Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/source/Sources.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)"
[02:13] <ikonia> BigToe: I saw you say that less than 10 lines up
[02:13] <ikonia> its still on screen
[02:13] <BigToe> and? repeating it's the only way for me to get any help in here usually :P
[02:13] <ikonia> no its not
[02:13] <ikonia> its rude
[02:13] <ikonia> and if thats your approach/attitude - you'll get nowhere
[02:14] <juan__> bigtoe, many people preffer to do a fresh install rather than an update to 6.10
[02:14] <ikonia> !patience |bigtoe
[02:14] <ubotu> bigtoe: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:14] <|Sora|> !patience ikonia
[02:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patience ikonia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:15] <|Sora|> !patience |ikonia
[02:15] <ubotu> ikonia: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:15] <ikonia> |Sora|: oh, your still here, I've take you off ignore now after flushing my list
[02:15] <ikonia> did you get the url I sent you
[02:15] <ikonia> |Sora|: I'm not asking for help /
[02:15] <|Sora|> i will have to wait till the person who told me about vmware tools gets online
[02:15] <hexidigital> how can i undo a ln -s command?
[02:15] <Igor_V2> how can i install a new theme to my desktop?
[02:15] <Igor_V2> to install a new theme....whats it's format?
[02:16] <ikonia> |Sora|: did you not get the URL I sent you
[02:16] <ikonia> hexidigital: remove the link
[02:16] <detlou> has firefox 2.0 been backported to Dapper? Is a package available? thx
[02:16] <|Sora|> the lins are dead
[02:16] <|Sora|> links
[02:16] <ikonia> are they ? they worked for me
[02:16] <ikonia> hang on
[02:16] <hexidigital> ikonia::  i know that, but that's what i am asking how to do
[02:16] <BIGDADDY> Ikonia befor i go do u think i can use  the Unofficial "Super Grub Disk ?
[02:16] <Aryon> detlou: I think not.
[02:16] <ikonia> hexidigital: rm
[02:16] <hexidigital> ikonia::  rm ln -s?
[02:17] <ikonia> |Sora|: the links are working try again - here is the url
[02:17] <hexidigital> ikonia::  or just rm -s?
[02:17] <ikonia> http://kb.vmware.com/KanisaPlatform/Publishing/671/340_f.SAL_Public.html
[02:17] <ikonia> rm "link name"
[02:17] <hexidigital> ikonia::  thanks
[02:17] <ikonia> |Sora|: just tried 3 links at random off that page - they all worked
[02:17] <ikonia> that should get you moving again
[02:18] <ikonia> |Sora|: any good ?
[02:18] <|Sora|> ikonia, i dont think they have a linux one in there, those all seem to be for window guests
[02:19] <ikonia> |Sora|: I'm sure I found a link one in there, thats why I sent the url
[02:19] <ikonia> hang on
[02:19] <|Sora|> oh wait, jsut saw it
[02:19] <|Sora|> http://www.vmware.com/support/ws55/doc/ws_newguest_tools_linux.html
[02:19] <BigToe> I try to update to 6.10 but keep getting "Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/source/Sources.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)"
[02:19] <ikonia> |Sora|: heres another one http://www.vmware.com/support/ws5/doc/ws_newguest_tools_linux.html
[02:20] <ikonia> |Sora|: ahhh you got there too
[02:20] <deepsa> ikonia: dude i replied to my post at the forums. i explained the whole procedure and you know what the first step was? it was to read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[02:20] <SimonL> he had ws55 you gave ws5
[02:20] <|Sora|> thanks
[02:20] <ikonia> deepsa: thats great, really pleased for you. Well done for reading and undertanding it
[02:20] <ikonia> SimonL: well spotted
[02:20] <SimonL> ;)
[02:21] <ikonia> mine works
[02:21] <BIGDADDY> thank you for your help i will be back hopefully if all goes well
[02:21] <ikonia> don't know about his
[02:21] <SimonL> well its hard to copy and paste the middle bit wrong :P
[02:21] <ikonia> true
[02:21] <SimonL> so common then, tell us a lil about your secret job :P
[02:22] <SimonL> are u a coding spy?
[02:22] <SimonL> if so, say nothing
[02:22] <SimonL> :D
[02:22] <ikonia> nothing secrect, I just don't disscus it on public IRC channels
[02:22] <SimonL> theres only 900 people here
[02:22] <SimonL> :P
[02:23] <SimonL> do you work for nokia?
[02:23] <ikonia> no
[02:23] <SimonL> lol
[02:23] <SimonL> is your name mean to be nokia though? :P because it is sortof an anagram of it
[02:23] <ikonia> I've just noticed my nick is an anagram of nokie
[02:23] <SimonL> :P
[02:23] <ikonia> never noticed that before
[02:23] <ikonia> all the years I've used it too
[02:24] <SimonL> haha
[02:24] <ikonia> SimonL: well spotted
[02:24] <SimonL> i bet u were like, wtf is he talking about nokia
[02:24] <ikonia> as you said it - it was obvious
[02:24] <ikonia> but no-ones ever said it nor have I noticed
[02:24] <SimonL> i think that deserves a clue in pm
[02:24] <ikonia> sorry no
[02:24] <SimonL> :'(
[02:25] <enrico> hey hello
[02:25] <enrico> a question:
[02:25] <ikonia> ask it
[02:25] <SimonL> hello
[02:25] <enrico> but with java jdk i have need also of java jre?
[02:25] <enrico> to run the application?
[02:25] <ikonia> jdk should give you jre
[02:25] <ikonia> no point installing a dev kit without runtime libs
[02:25] <not-hacker> Hello, is it a 64bits kernel that is installed (I have installed ubuntu for AMD 64, but the uname -r shows 2.6.17-10-generic)  ?
[02:26] <ikonia> not-hacker: do uname -a and look for x86_^4
[02:26] <ikonia> x86_64
[02:26] <enrico> thanks Ikonia also i think it!!!
[02:26] <ikonia> uname -r  just shows the kernel release name
[02:26] <not-hacker> thanks ikonia
[02:27] <internetnokia> thats what i thought your name meant :P
[02:27] <internetnokia> was code for where u worked, some internet branch of nokia
[02:27] <ikonia> very amusing
[02:27] <wsjunior> is there any specific ubuntu kernel for turion amd64? (k8) or just a generic amd64 kernel?
[02:27] <ikonia> wsjunior: generic amd64
[02:27] <SimonL> apparently this name is registered now, it wasnt an hour ago :(
[02:27] <ikonia> turin is just a low powered amd64
[02:27] <enrico> and excuse me ikonia...
[02:27] <SimonL> brb fixing res still
[02:27] <ikonia> nothing special about it
[02:27] <ikonia> enrico: no problem
[02:28] <enrico> which is the executive file for java ??
[02:28] <ikonia> enrico: what do you mean
[02:28] <SimonL> linux is weird, it doesnt have exe files
[02:28] <enrico> the executive file for the compiler
[02:28] <SimonL> confused me like hell
[02:28] <ikonia> java is a run time application
[02:28] <ikonia> java is the command to launch the jvm
[02:28] <enrico> yes i know..
[02:28] <ikonia> enrico: so whats your question
[02:29] <enrico> in this case i hace wrong something in the installation...
[02:29] <enrico> mmm
[02:29] <SimonL> YAY
[02:29] <ikonia> ok time for a shower and break
[02:29] <SimonL> works :D
[02:29] <SimonL> lovely and crisp
[02:29] <SimonL> finally
[02:30] <ernstp> how do I purge a package from the commandline?
[02:30] <AzMoo> Hey, how can I get the firefox mplayer plugin to be used when I try and view the (WMP) videos on http://www.abc.net.au/vod/ ? It works on gentoo, but I didn't have to configure anything. It just worked :\
[02:31] <ernstp> AzMoo: use totem-mozilla and totem-xine instead
[02:31] <damien_karras> I want to ask a question
[02:31] <BigToe> !ask
[02:31] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:31] <an21> Hello - How can I change the size of a print out from firefox... The firefox help says there should be a scale menu item in print preview, but on my install (edgy) it doesnt seem possible...
[02:31] <damien_karras> what should I ask?
[02:31] <an21> chaning the font size of the page display doesn't work
[02:32] <blekos> anyone can tell me what's the right way of installing ubuntu/linux? i mean i have a partion / and a swap partion. SHould i have a differnt partition for root and another for users?
[02:32] <ernstp> blekos: / is root then. it's nice to have a separate partition for /home if you want to reinstall ubuntu or switch to antoher dist sometime
[02:33] <BigToe> Whenever I search for updates, use synaptic or try to update to 6.10 but keep getting "Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/source/Sources.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)"
[02:33] <jrib> damien_karras: this gets old fast
[02:33] <AzMoo> ernstp, that's what I was using, but it says that no URI handler is implemented for "mms"
[02:33] <damien_karras> jrib: what?
[02:33] <blekos> and how much space should allocate to root?
[02:33] <ernstp> AzMoo: got win32codecs?
[02:34] <AzMoo> ernstp, yep
[02:34] <damien_karras> I want to ask a question
[02:35] <SimonL> ask away, sure someone can help
[02:35] <damien_karras> what should I ask?
[02:35] <jrib> !ops
[02:35] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[02:35] <SimonL> the question?
[02:35] <SimonL> :
[02:35] <elkbuntu> jrib, ?
[02:36] <damien_karras> what question?
[02:36] <jrib> elkbuntu: see damien_karras , he's a frequent visitor
[02:36] <AzMoo> ernstp, figured it. totem-xine wasn't installed. I thought i checked it though.
[02:36] <AzMoo> ernstp, cheers.
[02:36] <ernstp> AzMoo: yw! :-)
[02:36] <damien_karras> I want to ask a question
[02:36] <elkbuntu> damien_karras, are you here to just be annoying?
[02:36] <blekos> if i set a / directory and a /home directory can they xchange free space in case of need?
[02:37] <damien_karras> I want to ask a question
[02:37] <ernstp> blekos: not very easily
[02:37] <ernstp> blekos: but like 5 GB on /, and everything else on /home
[02:37] <sacater> BigToe: sorry i didnt see your reply, did you upgrade firefox
[02:37] <ernstp> blekos: you can start from the livecd and change them with gparted later on
[02:38] <BigToe> no, I've tried to upgrade to 6.10 sacater so I can get it through synaptic... but I keep getting an error
[02:38] <maddy> yaaahoooo it wirked
[02:38] <maddy> *worked
[02:38] <sacater> BigToe: which is....
[02:38] <BigToe> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/source/Sources.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[02:38] <maddy> <<<< BIGDADDY
[02:38] <enrico> but sorry,
[02:39] <maddy> now installing the updates
[02:39] <an21> How can I change the size of a print out from firefox... The firefox help says there should be a scale menu item in print preview, but on my install (edgy) it isnt there? How can I get the proper firefox print preview screen in ubuntu?
[02:39] <sacater> BigToe: eeples, is your ubuntu install working fine apart from that
[02:39] <enrico> what i must download for install java application and write programs?
[02:40] <ootput> g'day fellas, can any of you help me out with setting up dual sound cards in ubuntu? If there's a wiki link for something like that, i'd appreciate it
[02:40] <BigToe> an21, if you go to Print then properties you can set page size... is that what you want?
[02:40] <jrib> !java | enrico
[02:40] <ubotu> enrico: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[02:40] <sacater> enrico: sudo apt-get install java
[02:40] <BigToe> sacater, yes, apart from the lack of firefox 2 :P
[02:40] <sacater> enrico: or go into add/remove programs, and search java
[02:40] <an21> bigtoe: no I want to change the size of the text on the print out - the scale... but this option is missing in ubuntu firefox print preview
[02:40] <sacater> BigToe: hmm, what version are you running (ubuntu)
[02:41] <BigToe> 6.06
[02:41] <an21> edgy
[02:41] <BigToe> ah an21, can't help you there :(
[02:41] <sacater> BigToe: try running this for me 'sudo apt-get upgrade firefox'
[02:41] <maddy> I would just like to say a big thank you to all who have helped me
[02:42] <dhlaya001> hi
[02:42] <BigToe> sacater, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:42] <maddy> after updates does ubuntu need to restart ?
[02:42] <dhlaya001> hi guys...im struggling logging in to firefox....
[02:42] <BigToe> maddy, not usually
[02:43] <BigToe> if it does it will tell you
[02:43] <maddy> phew so its not like windows then :)
[02:43] <sacater> BigToe: okay try this 'sudo apt-get install galeon'
[02:43] <ootput> maddy: depends on how significant the upgrades are. Ubuntu should warn you though
[02:43] <maddy> oh
[02:43] <ootput> you're not in kansas anymore ;)
[02:43] <sacater> maddy: YES after certain updates, for them to take effect, you must restart, but only if you are prombted to
[02:43] <dhlaya001> hi guyz...can u help me?
[02:43] <BigToe> sacater, The following NEW packages will be installed galeon galeon-common
[02:43] <maddy> well its the first time i booted up ubuntu and its just downloaded updates
[02:44] <ootput> dhlaya001: no such nick exists
[02:44] <ootput> ;)
[02:44] <sacater> BigToe: press 'y' then enter
[02:44] <BigToe> I did :P
[02:44] <dhlaya001> its my student no actually...
[02:44] <dhlaya001> anyway i hav a prob here...
[02:44] <sacater> BigToe: what you installed it?
[02:44] <BigToe> yes
[02:44] <maddy> the only problem i have i have to use the super grub boot disk to boot up ubuntu
[02:44] <ootput> dhlaya001: indulge us
[02:44] <sacater> BigToe: go to Applications>Internet> Galeo
[02:44] <sacater> BigToe: go to Applications>Internet> Galeon
[02:45] <BigToe> ok
[02:45] <dhlaya001> ootput my firefox is not working...not sure why???
[02:45] <maddy> ok restart asked for BRB
[02:45] <dhlaya001> everytime i log in...
[02:45] <ootput> dhlaya001: what error messages?
[02:45] <dhlaya001> it says firefox is in use...
[02:45] <ootput> dhlaya001: ps aux | grep firefox
[02:45] <BigToe> sacater, what now
[02:45] <sacater> BigToe: enjoy youre new web browser: its the same design as firefox, and developed especcially for gnome
[02:45] <dhlaya001> and that i shud restart my computer....
[02:45] <binarydigit> what happens if you fsck an unmounted partition?
[02:46] <ootput> dhlaya001: if it's not in use, remove the .lock file in ~/.mozilla/firefox/*profile/
[02:46] <BigToe> hmm... ok :S
[02:46] <sacater> binarydigit: it will check the partition
[02:46] <dhlaya001> il try that...
[02:46] <jaalto> What is ubuntu development channel called? (the package developers)
[02:46] <binarydigit> sacater: it wouldnt cause any damage correct?
[02:46] <tomek_> Hi,  I am a newbe in Kubuntu
[02:46] <dhlaya001> ;-)
[02:46] <binarydigit> er sorry
[02:46] <binarydigit> i meant
[02:46] <binarydigit> mounted
[02:46] <binarydigit> and active
[02:46] <florg> tomek!?
[02:46] <sacater> binarydigit: provided that there is no RUNNING Os on there no
[02:46] <tomek_> I am looking for any fancy desktop theme
[02:47] <tomek_> and good LaTeX editor
[02:47] <ootput> binarydigit: why does it have to be mounted?
[02:47] <tomek_> :)
[02:47] <sacater> binarydigit: NO
[02:47] <ootput> binarydigit: if it's the root partition, boot from a livecd/dvd and fsck from there
[02:47] <sacater> binarydigit: only when its unmounted
[02:47] <mattions> tomek_:  winefish for LatEx editor written in Gtk2 :)
[02:47] <binarydigit> yea, well someone at work just ran fsck on a mounted partition
[02:47] <binarydigit> and now the partition seems to be fucked
[02:47] <sacater> binarydigit: then hes in the &*^ter
[02:47] <binarydigit> it was on /var/log
[02:47] <mattions> LaTeX*
[02:48] <ootput> fsck isn't a big stretch from the other f word ;)
[02:48] <binarydigit> haha seems like it
[02:48] <tomek_> thanks, I try google to find it :)
[02:48] <binarydigit> sigh, alright thanks for the insight
[02:48] <eyalw> hi
[02:48] <eyalw> im looking for a really good tts engine
[02:48] <jrib> tomek_: just use synaptic.  LyX is one you might want to try too
[02:48] <faycal> #ubuntu
[02:49] <jrib> !themes | tomek_
[02:49] <ubotu> tomek_: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[02:49] <ootput> binarydigit: btw, you should get that co-worker to reconsider his/her reading comprehension capabilities ;)
[02:49] <ootput> fsck usually warns you when you're working on a mounted partition
[02:49] <tomek_> Thanks a lot !!!
[02:50] <binarydigit> Ootput: yea he also ran it at 4am and wasnt paying attnetion
[02:50] <binarydigit> so ill give him so benefit of the doubt
[02:50] <faycal> the wireless card is detected but can't see the access point
[02:50] <binarydigit> after a long day of another sevrer having a bad hardware failure
[02:50] <tomek_> according to the LynX - I've tryed it under Windows
[02:50] <ootput> binarydigit: ho, that's a shitty hour to have things fsck up on you
[02:50] <tomek_> I prefare something like WinEdt
[02:50] <tomek_> so perhaps winefish will be fine
[02:51] <maddy> hello again
[02:51] <maddy> as you can see all went well :)
[02:51] <binarydigit> ootput: tell me about it, and a bunch of people are away, includngmy boss who is on vacation, good times
[02:51] <binarydigit> atleast it was just /var/log
[02:51] <nol13> i heard emacs is alot better than vim, is this true?
[02:51] <ootput> what's worse is that he/she's getting you to do all the detective work
[02:52] <mattions> tomek_: don't be scared by the web-site.. the editor is really cool.. but the website sucks [a little bit :)]
[02:52] <maddy> i still do have a problem though if some1 can kindly help me?
[02:52] <jrib> nol13: that's a question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:52] <tomek_> ok
[02:52] <tomek_> I will check it
[02:52] <ootput> nol13: emacs is a lot better than vim if you're more proficient at using emacs
[02:52] <binarydigit> ootput: this is like my first job out of college, entry level and our resident linux gurus are both out, so it fell down the chain quickly to me
[02:52] <ootput> nol13: conversely, vim is better if you're better at using vim
[02:52] <binarydigit> atleast im not the one running out to the datacenter =)
[02:53] <tomek_> is there any support for documents compilation?
[02:53] <mattions> no problem is on the multivers
[02:53] <ootput> binarydigit: (=
[02:53] <mattions> there is a deb in ubutnu
[02:53] <mattions> ubuntu repository
[02:53] <tomek_> ok
[02:53] <mattions> multiverse or universe [don't remember
[02:54] <nol13> well which should i learn?
[02:54] <maddy> how can i see all my other hardrives?
[02:54] <ootput> nol13: run the tutorial for both
[02:54] <maddy> from within ubuntu?
[02:54] <ootput> maddy: cat /proc/partitions
[02:54] <tomek_> onother thing - how to share my internet conection?
[02:54] <ootput> maddy: though that won't give you detailed info
[02:54] <nol13> what do you use?
[02:55] <ootput> nol13: emac
[02:55] <ootput> s
[02:55] <ootput> gnu
[02:55] <maddy> sooryfor my dumbness but where do i fine cat/proc/partions?
[02:55] <ootput> maddy: dumbness excused; run the command
[02:56] <maddy> from where?
[02:56] <ootput> the commandline
[02:56] <nol13> cool, so will i. where do i get the windows version from?
[02:56] <maddy> a terminal window?
[02:56] <ootput> whichever terminal emulator you're using
[02:56] <ootput> nol13: try google keywords: gnu emacs windows
[02:56] <maddy> this is the first time using linux for me sorry
[02:57] <francalier> anyone here use ubuntu?
[02:57] <SimonL> me
[02:57] <nol13> cool
[02:57] <break_> anyone in here have a dual core processor, that uses wine to play windows games?
[02:58] <jrib> francalier: probably a few people :)
[02:58] <eyalw> im looking for a really good tts engine
[02:58] <ootput> francalier: potentially
[02:58] <nikin> francalie: everyone :D
[02:58] <SimonL> i imagine about 900 people use it here :P
[02:58] <nol13> is it in the repositories though?
[02:58] <ootput> break_: don't laugh, but I'm u sing my dual core to play dos games via dosbox :D
[02:58] <break_> haha
[02:58] <ootput> of course, while I'm working on multimedia apps
[02:58] <SimonL> HAHAHA
[02:58] <SimonL> :P
[02:59] <break_> in windows, theres a problem with playing games with dual core processors
[02:59] <SimonL> there is?
[02:59] <maddy> is there not a program that will mount the drives while in ubuntu?
[02:59] <break_> i'm just wondering if the same issue applies if you're running a windows game via. linux
[02:59] <SimonL> what ya trying to do maddy
[02:59] <SimonL> access ur windows drives?
[02:59] <maddy> see all my harddrives
[02:59] <SimonL> yah hmm
[02:59] <mena_> Studio, Is Here
[02:59] <Znero> Hello. My partition-table seems to be defect, so i created images of all my partitions and want to erase the harddrive completely (also bootloader and tables should go) before i restore them. which command should i use?
[02:59] <SimonL> lemme see if i can remember the cmd
[02:59] <ootput> maddy: gparted should show you quite a bit
[02:59] <SimonL> i did it last night
[03:00] <mena_> studio, Are You Here
[03:00] <francalier> Android: was a UKIP member
[03:00] <francalier> THat's not very ubuntu.
[03:00] <mena_> Friends How Can I Change The permision
[03:00] <Lynoure> maddy: do you just want to get your MS Windows partition mounted or something?
[03:00] <ootput> francalier: what's ukip?
[03:00] <jrib> mena_: permissions on?
[03:01] <SimonL> i think its
[03:01] <ootput> mena_: what sort of permissions?
[03:01] <mena_> Partitions
[03:01] <francalier> The United Kingdom Independence Party
[03:01] <jrib> mena_: what filesystem?
[03:01] <Android> not a ukip member, just liked an animation on thier site
[03:01] <maddy> well i want to try fix my profile in windows
[03:01] <SimonL> "sudo umount -a && sudo mount -a
[03:01] <SimonL> "
[03:01] <ootput> mena_: man chmod...  chmod -w file for readonly access
[03:01] <maddy> so i need to get the the drive that windows is installed on
[03:01] <nol13> maddy, is your fan running properly?
[03:01] <jrib> SimonL: that would only work if maddy has already added them to fstab
[03:01] <gilnim> it's a pity that I can't connect to #ubuntu over my tor server
[03:02] <gilnim> !tor
[03:02] <jrib> !ntfs | maddy
[03:02] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1 (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[03:02] <mena_> my partitions Without File System is Just For Acces Only
[03:02] <SimonL> oh yah
[03:02] <Znero> cant anone tell me how to erase my harddrive completly (and propably reformat it with ntfs?)
[03:02] <ubotu> maddy: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:02] <francalier> Znero: do you already have the images backed up?
[03:02] <ootput> maddy: ubuntu may have already detected the ntfs filesystems at install time. Grep ntfs /etc/fstab
[03:02] <SimonL> forgot how i did that
[03:02] <ootput> or was that vfat?
[03:02] <mena_> My filesystem permision is uknowen
[03:02] <Znero> jey, im using acronis true image
[03:02] <ootput> maddy: I forget which
[03:02] <SimonL> other than "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[03:02] <francalier> you want to install Windows on it?
[03:02] <potatox> hey, is there anyway to have ubuntu on a permanent "fastboot"?
[03:02] <mucker> i'm looking for advice on how to write a driver for Ubuntu
[03:02] <jrib> mena_: you need to format the partition with a filesystem first then
[03:03] <potatox> in order to skip the disk checks?
[03:03] <francalier> potatox: yeah, just rub jelly on your CPU.
[03:03] <break_> is there an mp3 player for linux thats like winamp?
[03:03] <mena_> Okay ext3
[03:03] <Znero> francalier: i want to restore windows first, and if resizing works i want to restore ubuntu afterwards
[03:03] <lupine_85> mucker: well, there's plenty of example code =)
[03:03] <SimonL> there is rhapsody player
[03:03] <Thug-N-Me> hi all
[03:03] <SimonL> thats way nicer
[03:03] <maddy> oh dear so much to read my brains forz lol
[03:03] <Thug-N-Me> !essential
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about essential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:03] <SimonL> winamp is a resource hogger
[03:03] <mena_> jrib,They Are ext3
[03:03] <ootput> mucker: that can get pretty complicated
[03:03] <lupine_85> check www.kernel.org
[03:03] <break_> yeah well
[03:03] <francalier> Well, you should be able to start afresh with Windows's installer
[03:03] <ootput> mucker: view Linux kernel documentation
[03:03] <francalier> It will also write over the bootloader.
[03:03] <jrib> mena_: then you can use chmod and/or chown as usual
[03:03] <break_> i want a media player that looks and acts like winamp, without the resource hog part
[03:03] <nol13> postatox:  is your internet running properly?
[03:03] <jrib> !permissions | mena_
[03:03] <ubotu> mena_: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[03:03] <break_> is amaroK any good?
[03:03] <potatox> nol13: yes...why?
[03:03] <ootput> break_: beep media player with winamp classic skins
[03:04] <nol13> postatox:  you better go catch it.
[03:04] <potatox> nol13: if you're going to say google it, i already have
[03:04] <break_> whaaat
[03:04] <mena_> ubotu, Okay thanks
[03:04] <nikin> break: xmms
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Okay thanks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <break_> it uses winamp skins?!
[03:04] <Znero> francalier: windows installer cant find a harddrive, but windows and ubuntu still worked
[03:04] <potatox> nol13: dangit...
[03:04] <ootput> break_: winamp 2 skins, yep
[03:04] <potatox> nol13: fell right into that one
[03:04] <mena_> jrib, thnaks
[03:04] <mena_> a
[03:04] <Acetylene> break_, amaroK is good :D
[03:04] <mucker> I have a laptop with an internal card reader, I've tried doing steps in a few posts in Ubuntu forums but don't work.
[03:04] <Thug-N-Me> whats the name of the package that include autoconf automake and all this stuff ?
[03:04] <xkcd> nol13: Hey, I hear Coke is better than Pepsi, is that true?
[03:04] <jrib> Thug-N-Me: build-essential
[03:04] <spieq> yep :)
[03:05] <break_> pepsi > *
[03:05] <francalier> I hear that there's a New Coke.
 thanks
[03:05] <lupine_85> break_: amaroK++
[03:05] <nol13> xkcd: obviosly you havent taken the pepsi challenge
[03:05] <Acetylene> amaroK++, haha
[03:05] <xkcd> francalier: Will it break my system to upgrade to this New Coke?  I can't find it in Synaptic.
[03:05] <lupine_85> it's great stuff
[03:05] <francalier> You need to add a new source.
[03:05] <francalier> a New Source for New Coke.
[03:05] <jrib> Thug-N-Me: hmm autoconf and automake may not be included, but I think you're referring to build-essential
[03:05] <ootput> coke will break your wallet
[03:05] <mucker> I'll try an indepth search and try other forums like linuxquestions but if worst comes to worst, if I have a write code to get it works, I just want to know what is required.
[03:06] <potatox> is there any way to effectively have my system permanently boot up in "fastboot" mode to bypass the filesystem checks? (i can do this manually by running "sudo touch /fastboot" after every restart)
[03:06] <Thug-N-Me> jrib yes
[03:06] <lupine_85> mucker: just check out an example driver. There are >1,000 of them available, all well-commented
[03:06] <ootput> potatox: set dump/pass to 0
[03:06] <potatox> ootput: where's that?
[03:06] <Znero> i tried to use gparted for reformating my harddrive, but grub etc is still remaining. isnt there any way to erase everything?
[03:07] <lupine_85> Znero: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda -- assuming hda is the hard drive you want clearing
[03:07] <ootput> potatox: in /etc/fstab.. the trailing digits in each row
[03:07] <potatox> ootput: does that tell fsck to leave a specific partition alone?
[03:07] <mucker> thanks for the tip, I haven't looked into any of this
[03:07] <Znero> lupine_85: thanks
[03:07] <ootput> potatox: yes
[03:08] <mucker> or where to start
[03:08] <potatox> ootput: thank you
[03:08] <ootput> potatox: or you could use tune2fs to accomplish the same thing
[03:08] <maddy> sorry where will i find grep?
[03:08] <ootput> potatox: without having to muck about with /etc/fstab
[03:08] <Thug-N-Me> where would i get SDL from ?
[03:08] <lupine_85> Znero: there's also wipe & shred that attempt to do it in a more "secure" manner
[03:08] <ootput> potatox: assuming you're using ext2/3 partitions
[03:08] <potatox> ootput: okay...yeah, i have ext3
[03:08] <lupine_85> just don't use /dev/random :D - you'll be waiting years
[03:08] <ootput> potatox: you can tweak ext3 quite a bit, btw (o/t)
[03:08] <nol13> later guys, its been real.
[03:09] <potatox> ootput: you wouldn't happen to know of any magical fsck commands that would definitely fix a messed up filesystem would you?
[03:09] <Thug-N-Me> jrib any ideea of getting sdl installed ?
[03:09] <ootput> potatox: when you have the chance, read: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-305871.html
[03:09] <potatox> ootput: i've tried everything i could find so far
[03:09] <ootput> potatox: no, only the basic fsck commands
[03:09] <mattfletcher> how can i store user's and home directories on one central server, and then let users log on from any machine on my network as though it was the same machine?
[03:09] <ootput> (there's not a whole lot you can do with fsck)
[03:09] <potatox> ootput: but i always, always get a "Duplicate or Bad block in use" about 62% of the way through
[03:10] <jrib> Thug-N-Me: should get installed if any program needs it.  It seems to be libsdl1.2debian*
[03:10] <ootput> potatox: mate, perhaps there's a bad block? ;)
[03:10] <potatox> ootput: yeah...it doesn't seem to be quite as robust as FreeBSD's UFS2 fsck, though
[03:10] <potatox> ootput: that thing's a beast
[03:10] <ootput> potatox: since you brought it up, i do prefer fbsd's fs type and tools
[03:10] <potatox> ootput: any ideas on fixing a bad block?
[03:10] <potatox> ootput: for ext3?
[03:10] <ootput> potatox: no, compared to linux fs'
[03:11] <potatox> ootput: okay, thanks for your help
[03:11] <Znero> lupine_85: It says /dev/hda: Read-only file system (im using liveCD)
[03:11] <Thug-N-Me> jrib i have libsdl1.2debian-alssa installed ... but the package i want to install is still req. the sdl package any ideea ?
[03:11] <jrib> Thug-N-Me: what are you trying to install?
[03:12] <lupine_85> Znero: what it says
[03:12] <ootput> potatox: not a problem. btw: tune2fs -c 0 -i 0 /dev/hdXY  is what you're after
[03:12] <Thug-N-Me> jrib  The sdl-config script installed by SDL could not be found
[03:12] <lupine_85> elevate privs with sudo
[03:12] <Thug-N-Me> jrib a little linux game (abuse)
[03:12] <jrib> !info abuse | Thug-N-Me
[03:12] <potatox> ootput: okay...i'm reading that article you sent me, thanks again
[03:12] <ubotu> abuse: SDL port of the Abuse action game. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.7.0-4ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 306 kB, installed size 764 kB
[03:12] <mattfletcher> how can i mount a user's home directory from a remote server - i want a system where each machine is identical to the user using it
[03:13] <jrib> Thug-N-Me: are you using APT to install it
[03:13] <madmax> does anyone know how to configure a wireless connection on a laptop? i have a fujitsu siemens amilo pro v3505 with intel 3945ABG wireless and the interface doesn't appear in ifconfig or ubuntu's networking
[03:13] <Thug-N-Me> jrib yes
[03:13] <jrib> Thug-N-Me: pastebin the error you get
[03:13] <Znero> lupine_85: what do you mean? i entered the command you posted and than the message add: ffne /dev/hda: Read-only file system appears
[03:13] <Thug-N-Me> jrib http://pastebin.com/852697
[03:14] <lupine_85> Znero: yes. you don't have appropriate privs to write to /dev/hda (that is the correct device-file, right?). so prefix sudo to the command to get them
[03:14] <jrib> Thug-N-Me: what command gave you that?
[03:14] <eXistenZ> What is the best way to stream mp3 in ubuntu?
[03:14] <lupine_85> since you're on the liveCD, the sudo password is blank
[03:14] <Znero> lupine_85: sudo doesnt help, the same message appears
[03:14] <Thug-N-Me> jrib .configure
[03:15] <Thug-N-Me> jrib ./configure
[03:15] <lupine_85> Znero: is it mounted anywhere?
[03:15] <jrib> Thug-N-Me: I meant to use APT to install abuse, so   sudo apt-get install abuse
[03:15] <maddy> wow this is fun
[03:15] <lupine_85> or rather, any of it's partitions
[03:15] <maddy> i just hope i dont screw things up
[03:15] <Znero> lupine_85: no
[03:15] <narma> hello, a friend of mine have a USB modem. he need the package 'eagle' to have network. how can he install it without internet ?
[03:15] <Lynoure> maddy: learn the good habit of taking backups and that worry becomes a lot less
[03:15] <lupine_85> weird. works here
[03:16] <Thug-N-Me> jrib does this version of abuse support networking games ?
[03:16] <lupine_85> hda isn't your CDROM drive, by any chance, is it? =)
[03:16] <lupine_85> (SATA drives will be sd*)
[03:16] <jrib> Thug-N-Me: I have no idea
[03:16] <maddy> hmmm now i need to learn how to do backups :s
[03:17] <maddy> ok i ddi sudo fdisk -l and it show all my hard drives i just need to know how to mount them
[03:17] <KenSentMe> I need to do a backtrace of nautilus, but when i do backtrace in gdb there's no stack. How can i get it done?
[03:17] <Znero> lupine_85: oh, i looked at gparted and it says /dev/sda1.... yes its a sata
[03:17] <KenSentMe> Or how can i backtrace going to places - server?
[03:17] <maddy> and also this gksudo gedit /etc/pmount.allow but cannot figer out how to mount them
[03:18] <lupine_85> Znero: please, for crying out loud, /read/ what people say. If you had an IDE and SATA hard drive, you'd be kicking my arse right now
[03:18] <TheGateKeeper> maddy: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311&highlight=HOWTO%3A+backup
[03:18] <|Sora|> is it possible to auothide the bottom tab?
[03:18] <Thug-N-Me> jrib abuse give`s me this "Sound : Disabled (couldn't find the sfx directory)"
[03:19] <lupine_85> so anyway. s/hda/sda/ I guess
[03:19] <jrib> Thug-N-Me: install abuse-sfx maybe
[03:19] <Znero> lupine_85: sorry. but ive unplugged the drive i dont want to be formated, so nothing could have happened
[03:19] <KenSentMe> Does anyone know what nickname Sebastian Bacher uses on irc?
[03:19] <lupine_85> Znero: at least that was sensible ^^
[03:20] <afief> Is there a program equivalent to windows remote assistant?
[03:20] <maddy> ok i need a break my brain herts so thanks again for help i will stay logged on here if thats ok?
[03:20] <|Sora|> anyone know?
[03:21] <lupine_85> afief: yes. but I forget what it's called
[03:21] <xtknight> afief: Vino in gnome
[03:21] <xtknight> afief: aka.  Remote Desktop under preferences
[03:22] <jrib> KenSentMe: seb128  I believe
[03:22] <xtknight> KenSentMe: did you figure out how to get a stack trace?
[03:22] <KenSentMe> xtknight: no
[03:22] <KenSentMe> jrib: thanks, but he's offline i think :(
[03:23] <jrib> KenSentMe: no idea if this matters, but try stopping nautilus from controlling the desktop then start it
[03:23] <KenSentMe> jrib: and how can i do that?
[03:23] <afief> xtknight: and is there a way i can have a windows user enter my desktop?
[03:24] <jrib> KenSentMe: it's a gconf option in /apps/nautilus
[03:24] <KenSentMe> jrib: k, i'll look
[03:24] <r_rehashed> hi all
[03:24] <xtknight> afief: he can use a VNC client and the IP he must type to connect is listed in the GNOME Remote Desktop Preferences
[03:24] <jrib> KenSentMe: /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop
[03:24] <r_rehashed> i tried to re-install grub on my / partition
[03:25] <afief> xtknight: does this work while i'm behind a nat?
[03:25] <xtknight> afief: is the windows pc on the same lan?
[03:25] <afief> xtknight: no
[03:25] <KenSentMe> jrib: do i need to restart X then, orjust run the backtrace?
[03:25] <xtknight> afief: no it will not work behind a NAT, unless you forward the VNC port or make the pc in question DMZ
[03:25] <jrib> KenSentMe: just close all the nautilus instances and then try to get a backtrace
[03:25] <KenSentMe> jrib: ok, thanks
[03:26] <afief> xrknight: DMZ?
[03:26] <r_rehashed> and i get, `no device found' for root (hd0, 5); and `error in paersing string' for root (sd0, 5);
[03:26] <xtknight> afief: demilitarized zone (PC is out of nat, all foreign packets goto PC)
[03:26] <|Sora|> is it possible to auothide the bottom tab?
[03:26] <r_rehashed> please help me! i have been stuck in this hell-hole for > a week :(
[03:27] <KenSentMe> jrib: doesn't work
[03:27] <r_rehashed> i have properly carried out the instructions given in the Community-contributed documentation
[03:27] <xtknight> KenSentMe: gdb <program>
[03:27] <r_rehashed> why isn't grub getting installed?
[03:27] <xtknight> KenSentMe: gdb) run
[03:27] <Thug-N-Me> jrib thanks for your help
[03:28] <xtknight> KenSentMe: Ctrl+C (or the program will crash and terminate itself)
[03:28] <jrib> Thug-N-Me: np
[03:28] <xtknight> KenSentMe: gdb) backtrace
[03:28] <xtknight> I'm not sure about nautilus though
[03:28] <xtknight> it seems to terminate automatically
[03:28] <xtknight> since there can only be one running
[03:29] <KenSentMe> xtknight: that's the problem
[03:29] <FredDC> does anyone know a good database design tool for linux? which can generate sql statements?
[03:29] <xtknight> KenSentMe: sudo gdb nautilus
[03:29] <xtknight> KenSentMe: if the program still happens under root, im able to get a backtrace from a root nautilus
[03:29] <KenSentMe> xtknight: i want to backtrace a bug when opening a connected server
[03:29] <jrib> I get a bt for nautilus here
[03:29] <xtknight> KenSentMe: problem still happens under root*
[03:30] <jrib> KenSentMe: make sure there really are not nautilus instances already running, or maybe connect to the running instance
[03:30] <xtknight> if you run it under root it can't use the User's one-instance nautilus and must start another
[03:30] <xtknight> but i'd like to know as well how to debug under user
[03:30] <xtknight> just an idea for now
[03:31] <KenSentMe> jrib: there's still a nautilus proces running, but when i kill it it keeps coming back
[03:31] <xtknight> after you quit all nautilus apps,   you must use  '   nautilus --no-desktop  ' next time i believe so it doesn't start itself again
[03:31] <xtknight> it wont bring the desktop back if you do that
[03:32] <YoG> hi, I've installed several themes, i can see them in ~/.themes, but i don't see theme in the "theme preference" window, can anyone help me?
[03:32] <xtknight> sorry guys gotta jet
[03:32] <roniez> When i am trying to make my cron jobs start it dont, :( and i use @reboot /home/roniez/irssi.sh and in irssi.sh there is a check and a run script for irssi :S
[03:32] <mena_> jrib, i Cant Use The chmod I am New In that ...And I cant get Any thing Forom The Pages Ubuto give me
[03:32] <mena_> What to do
[03:33] <afief> xrknight: What port does gnome remote desktop use?
[03:33] <KenSentMe> jrib: it keeps opening this: nautilus --sm-client-id 117f000101000116808803800000046280003 --screen 0
[03:33] <xtknight_away> Ken did you try no desktop?
[03:33] <|Sora|> is it possible to auothide the bottom tab?
[03:34] <jrib> |Sora|: right click > properties > autohide
[03:34] <bakert> |Sora|, not that i know of
[03:34] <KenSentMe> xtknight_away: i can't kill all apps, one keeps coming back: nautilus --sm-client-id 117f000101000116808803800000046280003 --screen 0
[03:34] <jrib> mena_: what do you want to do?
[03:34] <mena_> jrib, Are You Here
[03:35] <xtknight_away> KenSentMe: i mean did you try 'nautilus --no-desktop'?
[03:35] <roniez> If anybody can take a look and see if there is anything wrong in the script or in the crontab job.
[03:35] <roniez> here is the script  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/651/
[03:35] <xtknight_away> KenSentMe: sorry.  i didnt direct it toward your name but i described it a few lines above
[03:35] <roniez> when i have that it wont run the script on reboot.
[03:35] <jrib> KenSentMe: if you keep killing it really fast it should stop :P  Maybe you do need to logout or something for gnome to figure out you don't want nautilus to handle the desktop.  Or, just connect to that nautilus in gdb
[03:35] <mena_> jrib, To Give My Partitions The Permision To acces and read
[03:35] <mena_> write and read
[03:35] <|Sora|> jrib, not the tab at the top, but on the bottom, which it shows which windows are opened
[03:35] <jrib> mena_: for one user or for all?
[03:36] <mena_> For one
[03:36] <jrib> |Sora|: right, click on the bottom panel's properties, not the top on
[03:36] <mena_> Bec Its Just Me
[03:36] <|Sora|> k
[03:36] <jrib> mena_: just make yourself the owner then.  For example, to change /media/foobar to be owned by you:   sudo chown mena:mena /media/foobar
[03:37] <oriol> Hi
[03:37] <mena_> jrib, ok i will
[03:38] <KenSentMe> xtknight_away: i've read it, but do you want me to run it like this : gdb nautilus --no-desktop etc?
[03:38] <KenSentMe> xtknight_away: i ran nautilus --no-desktop, but it just opens a window and then what?
[03:38] <xtknight_away> KenSentMe: uhh i think so.  make sure the parameter is correctly being passed to gdb though so gdb doesnt thing 'no-desktop' is a parameter for itself
[03:38] <xtknight_away> KenSentMe: you could also just run nautilus --no-desktop and attach gdb to the pid
[03:39] <YoG> hi, I've installed several themes, i can see them in ~/.themes, but i don't see theme in the "theme preference" window, can anyone help me? anyone?
[03:39] <mena_> jrib, I done Thanks my Freind
[03:39] <KenSentMe> jrib: i'm not that fast with killing processes and logging out doesn't help
[03:39] <xtknight_away> KenSentMe: afraid i have to go.  if you still cant do it i may be able to help later
[03:39] <KenSentMe> xtknight_away: ok, i'll try
[03:40] <bakert>  #haskell
[03:40] <jrib> KenSentMe: what does this say:  gconftool-2 -g /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop
[03:40] <biggahed> i could use some help here http://pastebin.com/852718
[03:40] <KenSentMe> jrib: true
[03:40] <mena_> jrib, For Renaming them Is there any Way Or I must To Use tun2fs
[03:41] <jrib> KenSentMe: you want that to be false so nautilus doesn't handle the desktop
[03:41] <Ankit_> #vista
[03:41] <KenSentMe> jrib: i got it
[03:41] <oriol> I can't rotate my screen. My graphics card is a Nvidia GeForce FX 5200
[03:41] <jrib> mena_: can't you just mount them to wherever you want?
[03:42] <oriol> I have ubuntu 6.06, with gnome and KDE
[03:42] <nn531> anyone know why my wmv plugin in firefox stopped working?
[03:42] <mena_> jrib, Throw The fstab I cant bec i try
[03:42] <break_> lol
[03:42] <mena_> Or U mean Something else
[03:42] <jrib> mena_: yes, fstab, but make sure the directory you are mounting to exists
[03:42] <JayRoe> can someone tell me why "sudo modprobe -r ehci_hcd" works in the terminal, but doesn't work in system/preferences/sessions?
[03:43] <Jeruvy> I would like to know how to customize the gnome desktop anyone have a pointer?
[03:43] <jrib> !themes | Jeruvy
[03:43] <ubotu> Jeruvy: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:43] <Jeruvy> jrib: cheers :)
[03:43] <mena_> jrib, Okay
[03:44] <GuerrillaWon> Can I install 32 bit libraries etc on the 64bit setup?
[03:44] <GuerrillaWon> Without problems?
[03:44] <break_> can someone explain why my system is so slow???
[03:44] <GuerrillaWon> Some programs I can't install because they don't have an amd64 port.
[03:44] <break_> everything lags horribly
[03:45] <mena_> jrib,for the file system i do the sma eto change the permision
[03:45] <mena_> same
[03:45] <oriol> I try the instructions in this Nvidia url: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8774/README/appendix-d.html
[03:45] <jrib> mena_: can you be more specific?  I'm not sure what you mean
[03:46] <KenSentMe> xtknight_away: attaching the running nautilus makes it crash without performing the steps for the bug
[03:46] <mena_> The Partitons called File system Its permision is unkowen
[03:46] <oriol> and here, too: http://www.ubuntu-es.org/index.php?q=node/12664
[03:46] <mena_> jrib, The File system patition
[03:47] <mena_> jrib, I mean the owner sorry
[03:47] <jrib> mena_: you shouldn't change permissions on anything that isn't in your HOME or you don't mount yourself for storage
[03:47] <mena_> thats My Computer
[03:48] <jrib> mena_: yes, but you use sudo when you need to do things on stuff outside your HOME
[03:48] <JayRoe> How do I add english to the spell checker? It's marking every word that's not danish
[03:48] <oriol> I don't write English very well because I'm an spanish student
[03:48] <mena_> jrib, okay so how can i login as aoot
[03:48] <mena_> jrib, root
[03:48] <jrib> !sudo | mena_
[03:48] <ubotu> mena_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:49] <linux_den> trying to connect with external hard drive anybody can help
[03:49] <linux_den> I thought it was plug n play
[03:49] <whyameye> linux_den: say more about the problem you are having. It's not automounting? What filesystem does the external drive have?
[03:50] <linux_den> ntfs
[03:50] <linux_den> not automounting
[03:50] <whyameye> linux_den: you are looking for it in the /media directory?
[03:50] <linux_den> will look now
[03:51] <EdgeT> Guys
[03:51] <linux_den> not in /media
[03:51] <break_> how do you install graphics drivers
[03:51] <break_> NVIDIA
[03:51] <EdgeT> I'd need a lil help here, if someone could help me with it
[03:51] <jrib> !nvidia | break_
[03:51] <ubotu> break_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:51] <break_> thank you
[03:52] <break_> i tried googling, but that confused me even more
[03:52] <jrib> !helpme | EdgeT
[03:52] <ubotu> EdgeT: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:52] <EdgeT> jrib, like how could I set X to find my display and activate it from a tty?
[03:53] <mena_> jrib, if i do what is in the page you give me ....My Account Will Be root or i must to loging as root
[03:53] <jonf> Could anyone help me activate the wireless?
[03:53] <jrib> mena_: sudo executes commands with super user privileges.  So for example you could do:  sudo nano   and you have a text editor with "root" privileges
[03:54] <whyameye> linux_den: I'm not sure. I'd look in dmesg for some sort of message from when you plugged in the drive. I'm assuming this is USB
[03:54] <linux_den> yes usb high speed
[03:54] <linux_den> dmesq thanks
[03:55] <EdgeT> Guys, my X seems unable to find any display, so how do I make it find it?
[03:56] <bulmer> EdgeT: have you look around your  /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[03:56] <whyameye> EdgeT: what is happening? You can't load Gnome/KDE? Or you are running a GUI app from the command line and it gives you an error about the display?
[03:57] <linux_den> is dmesq a text file?
[03:57] <EdgeT> whyameye actually I can't load Gnome, plus the tty didn't connect me to the net
[03:57] <whyameye> linux_den: dmesg is a command.
[03:57] <linux_den> ok
[03:57] <twisties> which run mode uses networking
[03:57] <twisties> ?
[03:58] <bulmer> 5
[03:58] <twisties> run level*
[03:58] <bulmer> you can check /etc/inittab
[03:58] <jonf> Could anyone help me activate the wireless?
[03:58] <whyameye> EdgeT: not sure what you mean about tty and net. But if you can't load Gnome the first thing I would try is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:58] <twisties> oh, cool thanks :) im trying to cram as much about linux into my brain
[03:58] <twisties> learning it to keep me busy during holidays
[03:59] <EdgeT> bulmer, I don't even know how to open it in a tty :(
[03:59] <linux_den> [17207425.572000]  usb 4-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7
[03:59] <linux_den> [17207425.704000]  usb 4-5: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[03:59] <mattd> Hey all, I'm having some problems with my girlfriends Acer laptop
[03:59] <linux_den> Does this help
[03:59] <EdgeT> whyameye, that's the problem, I don't have the net
[03:59] <deepsa> EdgeT: nano -w /etc/inittab
[03:59] <whyameye> EdgeT: why do you need the net for this?
[03:59] <EdgeT> deepsa, what would that do?
[03:59] <deepsa> EdgeT: open the file in tty for you
[03:59] <EdgeT> whyameye I can't download the drivers?
[03:59] <bulmer> EdgeT: you need to pick up a tutorial on nano or vim..these are editors
[03:59] <EdgeT> deepsa oh oki ty
[04:00] <fleischwurst>  /msg nickserv register d8e2g1daF
[04:00] <whyameye> EdgeT: then use the vesa driver which should already be installed.
[04:00] <fleischwurst> omg
[04:00] <deepsa> fleischwurst: lol
[04:00] <deepsa> fleischwurst: your password of irc is d8e2g1daF
[04:00] <fleischwurst> 1337
[04:00] <EdgeT> whyameye how do I do that?
[04:01] <deepsa> fleischwurst: wtf u r
[04:01] <bulmer> jonf: lets try..i have not been successful on mine, but you can try some of these commands
[04:01] <lupine_85> omg pr0nzlolol
[04:01] <xkcd> lupine_85: Be careful; I hear hacking is illegal now.
[04:01] <deepsa> lol
[04:01] <whyameye> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xservser-xorg. When it asks what driver to use, select "vesa." I wouldn't be surprised though if the open-source driver for your video card is also already on your computer.
[04:01] <lupine_85> yiff!
[04:01] <Gosha> !real
[04:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:01] <jonf> bulmer:  I have Broadcom wireless
[04:01] <lupine_85> so's half this pr0nzz :p
[04:01] <bulmer> jonf: what does ifconfig -a  tells you about your nic interfaces
[04:02] <whyameye> EdgeT: how come you can't connect to the net?
[04:02] <riotkittie> pr0nz :o
[04:02] <jonf> eth0, lo, sit0
[04:02] <black_abaddon> http://s1.bitefight.ba/c.php?uid=37762
[04:02] <jonf> bulmer:  eth0, lo, sit0
[04:02] <EdgeT> whyameye well, I wanted to download the nvidia-glx so I "apt-get update" but there was no connection, tho my ethernet cable was in, and the net worked, tho I can't even ping google
[04:03] <whyameye> EdgeT: has your net worked before?
[04:03] <black_abaddon> http://s1.bitefight.ba/c.php?uid=37762
[04:03] <bulmer> jonf: is eth0 mapped to your wifi or is that a separate nic card ?
[04:03] <EdgeT> whyameye, well yeah it does with a live cd and on windoz3, on the 6.10 tty, but now I've installed the 6.06 and I don't have the net anymore I think
[04:03] <jonf> bulmer:  I have a notebook
[04:04] <bulmer> jonf: easy to verify...iwconfig eth0
[04:04] <bulmer> jonf: even notebooks have nic cards plus wifi cads
[04:04] <EdgeT> This is frustrating
[04:04] <jonf> bulmer: iwconfig eth0
[04:04] <linux_den> after using the dmesg command I get this
[04:04] <jonf> bulmer:  no wireless extension
[04:04] <whyameye> EdgeT: what does "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" do for you?
[04:04] <riotkittie> yeah.  i use nic everywhere but in the bedroom
[04:04] <linux_den>  new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7
[04:04] <Gosha> !bin
[04:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <bulmer> jonf: is there a light indicator on your embedded wifi card that tells you it is active?
[04:05] <linux_den> I there a command to mount
[04:05] <riotkittie> then i pop my wireless in and borrow my neighbor's connection :o
[04:05] <EdgeT> whyameye I dunno haven't tried it, brb, since I'm on w!n
[04:05] <linux_den> or just point me to a help file
[04:05] <linux_den> please
[04:05] <jonf> bulmer: yes, but the light is off
[04:05] <bulmer> jonf: look around for a switch to turn in on...or keyboard combo perhaps..
[04:05] <black_abaddon> http://s1.bitefight.ba/c.php?uid=37762
[04:06] <whyameye> linux_den: mount is the command. Something like "mount -t <filesystem i.e. ntfs> <device location> <directory>"
[04:06] <cat> can someone tell me if hoary is stable?
[04:06] <bulmer> i had a friend who had a laptop, and didnt realize he had an extra switch needing turning on before the wifi will work
[04:06] <jonf> bulmer:  I just push the button, but is not switching
[04:06] <linux_den> thanks
[04:06] <whyameye> cat: stable but OOLLLDD. I'd use Dapper.
[04:06] <riotkittie> stable but outdated. you're better off with dapper if you can use it.
[04:06] <Beawolfe> Looking for some help with compiz if possible
[04:06] <black_abaddon> http://s1.bitefight.ba/c.php?uid=37762
[04:06] <bulmer> jonf: next is check with   dmesg|grep eth0
[04:07] <jonf> bulmer:  but I cant switch the light on
[04:07] <bulmer> or something in your dmesg to indicate your wifi
[04:07] <kenthomson> How do i open .bin files? I have got a linux tutorial named "lgctc011.bin", how do i run/execute/see it?
[04:07] <bulmer> jonf: oh there is a switch, you may need to pull out your handy manual and read it..lolz
[04:08] <riotkittie> sh filename.bin
[04:08] <bulmer> kenthomson: are you sure its a tutorial?
[04:08] <sk4nK> i've just followed the instructions in the forums (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131) to mount the smb network using fusesmb, but when browsing to a network share in thunar I get "Connection Timed Out" dialogs. anyone know what this might be?
[04:08] <jonf> bulmer:  but when I work with windows, I just push the switch
[04:08] <kenthomson> bulmer, 100% sure, it's a linux tutorial.
[04:08] <riotkittie> yeh binary tutorial sounds ... eh, odd.
[04:08] <kenthomson> riotkittie, it is
[04:08] <cat> whyameye, can you pasted me you're source list
[04:09] <cat> so i can see it?
[04:09] <bulmer> kenthomson...you can first check it with  file  command to see what type of file it is
[04:09] <kenthomson> riotkittie, bulmer, there's a .bin file and a .cue file. How do i use it in Ubuntu?
[04:09] <bulmer> jonf: see the dmesg if it detected it..
[04:09] <cat> bin file ./blah
[04:09] <lupine_85> kenthomson: convert it to iso
[04:09] <kenthomson> bulmer, ok let me try that "file:<file_name> right?
[04:09] <lupine_85> cat: no, it's a CD image
[04:09] <lupine_85> !bchunk
[04:09] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[04:10] <bulmer> kenthomson: yes
[04:10] <Sp4rKy> hi
[04:10] <riotkittie> oh .bin .bin, oye.
[04:10] <Beawolfe> can someone tell me how to turn compiz on and off and also how to configure it?
[04:10] <kenthomson> lupine_85, bulmer is getting that software, the only way to use this thing? Can't i mount it or something?
[04:10] <Sp4rKy> please, how can i use a port different than 22 with ssh-copy-id ?
[04:10] <whyameye> cat: you want to upgrade to dapper? Is that why you want the source list?
[04:10] <kenthomson> lupine_85, bulmer, and once i get a "demo.iso" how do i mount it?
[04:10] <lupine_85> kenthomson: it's a raw CD image, i.e. it contains a load of CD track stuff
[04:11] <Pierre_N> Hi
[04:11] <lupine_85> you could write a filesystem driver for it I guess, but since bchunk is around, nobody ever bothered
[04:11] <kenthomson> lupine_85, so there's now way i can directly mount it, right?
[04:11] <bulmer> kenthomson: the command I suggest is only to check if that file really is a binary file.. "file" command will tell you what type of file
[04:11] <Pierre_N> I just converted my windoze partition to ext3, and manually edited the fstab to change it to ext3 etc, but after mounting the new partition, it doesn't show up on my gnome desktop
[04:11] <kenthomson> lupine_85, ok
[04:11] <kenthomson> bulmer, ok
[04:11] <Pierre_N> also, the fstab has some weird numbers in it, and stuff is commented out, like it's being handled by some other program
[04:11] <lupine_85> bulmer: if it comes with a .cue , it's a CD image
[04:11] <Pierre_N> any ideas?
[04:12] <lupine_85> Pierre_N: the magic of UUIDs
[04:12] <bulmer> Pierre_N: you still have to mount it, or do  mount -a  to mount all in what it sees in the /etc/fstab
[04:12] <lupine_85> you can replace with the real device files if you like
[04:12] <bulmer> lupine_85: ah okay..
[04:13] <nick4> i am trying to run Netscape 3.0 on Ubuntu 6.10 but nothing happens (no error message, no nothing)
[04:13] <nick4> how can I achieve this?
[04:13] <bulmer> lupine_85: when you say cdimage its not necessarily iso format right?
[04:13] <riotkittie> netscape 3.0?!?
[04:13] <YoungLord> hello
[04:13] <lupine_85> bulmer: true
[04:13] <YoungLord> i got a question
[04:13] <lupine_85> it could be udf, or VCD, or all sorts
[04:13] <bulmer> okay
[04:13] <YoungLord> i have gnome and want to have kde
[04:14] <YoungLord> I'm using ubuntu
[04:14] <kenthomson> YoungLord, open a terminal "sudo apt-get install kde-desktop"
[04:14] <bulmer> umm there is a kubuntu version
[04:14] <YoungLord> where is the file where I can switch it
[04:14] <johns^> YoungLord: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:14] <riotkittie> YoungLord : sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:14] <YoungLord> i have installed all needed packages
[04:14] <xopher-> or kubuntu-core, for a less bloated environment
[04:14] <kenthomson> YoungLord, riotkittie is right!, it;s kubuntu-desktop
[04:14] <kenthomson> xopher, nice advice!
[04:14] <YoungLord> i have it
[04:15] <riotkittie> oh then log out and select kde from the session menu on the login screen
[04:15] <xopher-> YoungLord then you should be able to choose kde, in sessions in GDM, if that's what you use to login
[04:15] <YoungLord> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, etc
[04:15] <kenthomson> lupine_85, i installed bchunk, but it doesn't appear in any of my menus (i am on GNOME), how do i use it?
[04:15] <Thug-N-Me> hows playing counter strike in ubuntu ?
[04:15] <Thug-N-Me> whos err ;))
[04:15] <lupine_85> kenthomson: it's a command-line tool
[04:15] <lupine_85> man bchunk will go through the options with you
[04:15] <bulmer> kenthomson: you try man bchunk and see if you get any man pages for it
[04:15] <lupine_85> it's pretty easy, especially since you actually have a .cue
[04:15] <YoungLord> but I know there is a file where I have to change a line DISPLAYMANAGER=KDE
[04:16] <lupine_85> whenever I've used it, I've had to write my own :/
[04:16] <YoungLord> or something like that
[04:16] <Thug-N-Me> is anyone playing counter strike in ubuntu ?
[04:16] <riotkittie> YoungLord >> if youre using GDM, you shouldnt have to do that
[04:16] <YoungLord> GDM
[04:16] <kenthomson> lupine_85, i found a bchunk man page! how unlucky! let me slog through uncomprehendible mess. :)
[04:16] <YoungLord> is it a package
[04:16] <riotkittie> you just select the session from your login screen
[04:16] <YoungLord> I'm a linux noob :)
[04:16] <kenthomson> lupine_85, "i've had to write my own", could you please explain that
[04:17] <lupine_85> cat <anyfile.cue>
[04:17] <lupine_85> it's ~4 lines
[04:17] <YoungLord> sudo apt-get install gdm?
[04:17] <kenthomson> YoungLord, make that :) ---> :( , becuase it's not goot to be noob!
[04:17] <riotkittie> and then you have the option of selecting your session, and setting the selection as default
[04:17] <xopher-> YoungLord Im sure you have that installed already
[04:17] <kenthomson> lupine_85, so i am better off with bchunk?
[04:17] <lupine_85> if you know what the .bin is meant to be, you can make good guesses as to what those lines should be
[04:17] <YoungLord> where can I find GDM
[04:17] <xopher-> YoungLord if you've installed ubuntu
[04:17] <lupine_85> kenthomson: you need bchunk
[04:17] <coffer> join
[04:17] <kenthomson> lupine_85, i got it installed
[04:17] <riotkittie> YoungLord, if you have to ask, you probably already have it
[04:17] <lupine_85> I was talking about writing my own .cue for bchink to use
[04:17] <xopher-> YoungLord log out, and the screen you'll see is GDM
[04:18] <riotkittie> YoungLord, just log out of gnome.
[04:18] <CeRt_SkItZ> what is ubuntu
[04:18] <YoungLord> aaaah
[04:18] <YoungLord> I understand
[04:18] <xopher-> ;)
[04:18] <coffer> join #ubuntu-cn
[04:18] <YoungLord> login screen
[04:18] <kenthomson> lupine_85, ok, that's too complex for me
[04:18] <YoungLord> yeees I remember ^^
[04:18] <riotkittie> :)
[04:18] <xopher-> lupine_85 isnt there a way to mount bin files directly too? would save 'a lot' of time not needing to convert the file to iso first, if that's what you are trying to do
[04:18] <kenthomson> lupine_85, i read the man page it's pretty short, but i didn't find the syntax of using it. I am having a .bin and a .cue file in a folder can you please help?
[04:19] <lupine_85> xopher-: there isn't, AFAIK
[04:19] <YoungLord> thank you all
[04:19] <lupine_85>        bchunk [-v]  [-p]  [-r]  [-w]  [-s]  <image.bin> <image.cue> <basename>
[04:19] <xopher-> lupine_85, Im sure Ive seen it somewhere *going hunting*
[04:19] <bulmer> lupine_85: you know of a program to convert a bash or ksh scripts into a binary just for hiding its contents and auto decode it back.?
[04:19] <YoungLord> ok I have just ask for a friend, I'm using kubuntu ^^
[04:19] <kenthomson> !ubuntu | CeRt_SkItZ
[04:19] <ubotu> CeRt_SkItZ: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[04:19] <lupine_85> so what it says. bchunk my_bt_videogame.bin my_bt_videogame.cue my_bt_videogame
[04:20] <richee> hi folks
[04:20] <Wahro> hi
[04:20] <lupine_85> bulmer: not very FOSS of you
[04:20] <bulmer> okay ill take a look at that one
[04:20] <|Sora|> how cna i open rpm installer?
[04:20] <kenthomson> lupine_85, so in a terminal i type "bchunk demofile.bin demofile.cue demofile.iso" and a .iso file will be created in that very folder. Am i right?
[04:21] <xopher-> lupine_85, it's possible using cdemu: http://www.bigbold.com/snippets/posts/show/2699
[04:21] <lupine_85> not demofile.iso, demofile
[04:21] <kenthomson> |Sora|, you cannot normally and it is not advisavvle to use one
[04:21] <sc4ttrbrain> !alien | |Sora|
[04:21] <biggahed> hi, someone could please help me figuring this out? just take a look, it wont hurt :) http://pastebin.com/852718
[04:21] <ubotu> |Sora|: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[04:21] <xopher-> or kenthomson, actually ^
[04:21] <|Sora|> im trying to install vmware tools
[04:21] <Subhuman> |Sora|, ubuntu is deb based, it cant open rpms . you can convert them to deb's using "alien"
[04:21] <|Sora|> darn
[04:21] <lupine_85> if the cd image contains an iso-format filesystem, it'll output <basename>.iso
[04:21] <CeRt_SkItZ> will i need a seperate partition to install onto
[04:21] <sc4ttrbrain> |Sora|:  what is ur guest system?
[04:22] <sc4ttrbrain> CeRt_SkItZ: yes
[04:22] <Xbehave> i get this error everytime i install anything "DESTROY created new reference to dead object ' Qt::VBoxLayout', <> line 5 during global destruction." it comes up in the termial box but everything seams to install ok
[04:22] <|Sora|> sc4ttrbrain, ubuntu?
[04:22] <kenthomson> lupine_85, do i don't need to be take care of the extension of the file that is going to be generated, right?
[04:22] <max1> Hello, when configuring samba I can't acces my /music folder. Where can I find it on my server and are the errors in the smb.conf file (altough running testparm didn't gave any errors) --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/655/
[04:22] <Xbehave> what does it mean or how do i fix it?
[04:23] <lupine_85> kenthomson: right. bchunk can't assume it's .iso
[04:23] <CeRt_SkItZ> do i need linux first?
[04:23] <wsjunior> how do i upgrade from edgy to feisty?
[04:23] <sc4ttrbrain> |Sora|: then u ll get it in deb format if im not mistaken
[04:23] <sc4ttrbrain> CeRt_SkItZ: ubuntu = linux
[04:23] <lupine_85> wsjunior: first you learn how to research things
[04:23] <YoungLord> my friend don't believe me
[04:23] <YoungLord> anybody from germany?
[04:23] <Xbehave> wsjunior im not sure but id asume that its recomended that you burn it onto a disc
[04:23] <CeRt_SkItZ> so where do i get ubuntu
[04:23] <lupine_85> if you're going to be running an unstable, development, buggy OS, you'll need that skill
[04:24] <lupine_85> !de
[04:24] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:24] <wsjunior> lupine_85: if u cant answer dont say anything :)
[04:24] <lupine_85> ...
[04:24] <lupine_85> !install
[04:24] <sc4ttrbrain> CeRt_SkItZ: use google :)
[04:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[04:24] <lupine_85> erm
[04:24] <YoungLord> thx
[04:24] <Pierre_N> argh at all this UUID stuff
[04:24] <YoungLord> ^^
[04:24] <lupine_85> !upgrade
[04:24] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:24] <lupine_85> rather
[04:24] <Pierre_N> !uuid
[04:24] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[04:24] <lupine_85> just s/edgy/feisty
[04:24] <CeRt_SkItZ> u buntcheer bruz
[04:24] <kenthomson> lupine_85, thank you, you have helped me countless times when i have been completely lost and frustrated with linux, without knowing. Thank you for hanging out in the IRC and helping aimless noobs like me. I hope i get on well with FOSS. I will do the conversion and let you know. And yeah, how do i use a .iso file?
[04:24] <superkirbyartist> Anyone can help me with D-Link Wireless Card please?  It is not detected.
[04:24] <lupine_85> don't except such fine support when your feisty refuses to boot :p
[04:25] <lupine_85> kenthomson: mount -t iso -o loop /path/to/.iso /path/to/mountpoint
[04:25] <lupine_85> might need to sudo it
[04:25] <lupine_85> also might be -t udf
[04:25] <max1> Hello, when configuring samba I can't acces my /music folder. Where can I find it on my server and are the errors in the smb.conf file (altough running testparm didn't gave any errors) --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/655/
[04:25] <YoungLord> I wish I would have 1% of your knowlage of linux :)
[04:25] <TimeWaster> hi
[04:26] <lupine_85> kenthomson: good luck with it :)
[04:26] <sc4ttrbrain> !hi | TimeWaster
[04:26] <ubotu> TimeWaster: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:26] <kenthomson> lupine_85, i am pretty uncomfortable with CLI, if you could put all that command in one line, it would be much helpfule, is it "sudo  mount -t iso -t udf -o loop /path/to/.iso /path/to/mountpoint"
[04:26] <lupine_85> it's -t iso OR -t udf
[04:27] <lupine_85> depending on the FS type :)
[04:27] <biggahed> hi, could someone please help me figure this out? http://pastebin.com/852718
[04:27] <max1> Anyone? When configuring samba I can't acces my /music folder. Where can I find the share on my server and are there any errors in the smb.conf file (altough running testparm didn't gave any errors) --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/655/
[04:28] <kenthomson> lupine_85, ok so .iso and .udf or two file types
[04:28] <lupine_85> two filesystem types, yeah
[04:28] <lupine_85> almost everything will be iso
[04:28] <xopher-> kenthomson you should check out nautilus-actions, it could integrate mounting and umounting isos to the context menu (right click on the file-> mount iso)
[04:29] <brewka> irc.freenode.net
[04:29] <Pierre_N> so, I've edited my fstab with the UUID stuff, but when I mount my new ext3 partition, it doesn't show up on my gnome desktop
[04:29] <kenthomson> xopher, now that's what a i call GUI :)
[04:29] <kenthomson> xopher, let me check that!
[04:29] <johns^> max1: do maxime, frederik and svenn have permissions to access /music?
[04:29] <xopher-> kenthomson this actually promises to do everything you want to: http://www.grumz.net/?q=node/281&PHPSESSID=93b44296ce953953c067c409c361412b
[04:29] <xopher-> kenthomson, it's GUI, I promise :P
[04:29] <johns^> max1: linux permissions I mean :)
[04:30] <TimeWaster> hi, ive got the following problem: after i tried ubuntu live dvd, my grafics card shows no picture if the grafic driver is loaded. it happens in windows and linux. if a vesa mode is used (in boot mode or when no driver is installed) it appears ok. (im right now in vesa mode)
[04:30] <max1> johns^:  I made a user maxime to test (adduser maxime)
[04:31] <xopher-> kenthomson basiacally just apt-get nautilus-actions and add that configuration to it, and you're all set
[04:31] <johns^> max1: no domain logons I guess?
[04:31] <kenthomson> xopher, there's also a way to mount .cue files directly on that link!
[04:31] <xopher-> I know ;)
[04:31] <kenthomson> xopher, i need to compile the configurations, i would surely get stuck somewhere
[04:31] <xopher-> oh, and you also need cdemu, as it uses that to mount the files
[04:31] <johns^> max1: did you do a smbpasswd -a maxime ?
[04:31] <javaJake> Hello everyone.
[04:31] <javaJake> How do I tell Rhythmbox to encode everything in mp3 format?
[04:32] <javaJake> Instead of OGG and FLAC?
[04:32] <max1> johns^:  When I'm connecting with my windows pc it get's my ubuntu home folder (called 'maxime' ) and it sees the music folder but I cannot access it. In the logs i found it doesn't exist but where should it be? I created the folder using swat so I thought it would create the folder automatically
[04:32] <max1> johns^: yes, I did
[04:32] <kenthomson> xopher, i need to compile cdemu too!, who is going to teach me all that?
[04:32] <kenthomson> :(
[04:32] <xopher-> kenthomson hm, here's a how to : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=276743
[04:32] <johns^> max1: what are the permissions of /music
[04:32] <max1> johns^: I don't know where the folder is?
[04:33] <xopher-> kenthomson and this seems a bit easier actually: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=69530
[04:33] <johns^> max1: so that's why you don't have access :)
[04:33] <TimeWaster> has anyone a idea?
[04:33] <kenthomson> xopher, now that's what i call constructive communism :)
[04:33] <javaJake> How do I tell Rhythmbox to encode everything in mp3 format? Instead of FLAC and OGG? Is this possible? Or should I switch to Amorak? :P
[04:34] <xopher-> kenthomson hehe, but the first one was more up to date, Ill see if I can find straight out debs for you too, that would be like, super easy ;D almost too easy
[04:34] <max1> johns^: I can't find it on my ubuntu server, but I thought SWAT would create it automatically..I wouldn't know where to create the /music folder myself? Under /etc or /var/lib/samba?
[04:34] <kenthomson> xopher, if you make things super easy for me, than i would need you to be available here almost everytime i come here, so please refrain from doing that :)
[04:34] <Jowi> javaJake, in soundjuicer: edit -> preferences -> output format: select mp3 (if you created a profile for it)
[04:35] <Wahro> I'm getting a problem with my dual boot. Error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format. fdisk output-> http://paste.ubuntu.nl.org/657/ . GRUB menu.lst -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/658/ . Would anybody know how to fix it? Thx
[04:35] <johns^> max1: your smb.conf says path = /music so it's in /
[04:35] <javaJake> Jowi, except I'm using Rythmbox to import my CDs.
[04:35] <johns^> max1: I mount all my partitions in /media exept /home offcourse :)
[04:35] <javaJake> Jowi, does the "profiles" affect both? After all, they share the same selections.
[04:35] <Jowi> javaJake, yes. rhythmbox uses soundjuicer for that
[04:35] <TimeWaster> help!!!
[04:35] <javaJake> Jowi, Ok, how do I edit profiles?
[04:35] <max1> johns^: I'll check, do you know where to check alle users allready registered with samba..a sort of overview?
[04:35] <johns^> max1: but in case of a music dir, I would create it on a disk with enough space
[04:36] <Jowi> javaJake, the button beside output format
[04:36] <javaJake> TimeWaster, hi. What seems to be your issue?
[04:36] <superkirbyartist> How do we start PCMCIA in Ubuntu?
[04:36] <TimeWaster> ive got the following problem: after i tried ubuntu live dvd, my grafics card shows no picture if the grafic driver is loaded. it happens in windows and linux. if a vesa mode is used (in boot mode or when no driver is installed) it appears ok. (im right now in vesa mode)
[04:36] <Jowi> javaJake, yes, they affect both
[04:36] <johns^> max1: normally you'll add them manually or witch a bash script
[04:36] <javaJake> Jowi, ok, smarty-pants. That's way too scary. ;)
[04:36] <nn531> how do i patch and complile something?
[04:36] <cat> nn531, with patch
[04:36] <cat> ;D
[04:36] <javaJake> Oh yay, it crashed.
[04:37] <Jowi> :)
[04:37] <javaJake> Bug Buddy appeared. *Sigh*
[04:37] <nn531> cat: ipw2200-1.2.1
[04:37] <xopher-> kenthomson allright, I wont do that then ;) Just go with the first how to, might learn sometihng in the process too. And instead of 'make install' you could try to make a checkinstall, as someone recommends in the second how to's second post, it creates and installs a deb, so it'll be easy to remove if you ever want that
[04:37] <johns^> ok I'm off. we're out to dinner. Have fun everybody ;)
[04:37] <javaJake> Drat
[04:38] <kenthomson> xopher, though yuo can already see sweat rolling down my brow as i read through the first howto, are you sure all that, that he says over there is safe? And i should mindlessly do it?
[04:38] <max1> johns^:but there isn't a command to show you all created userprofiles withing smb
[04:38] <javaJake> Jowi, ok, do you know what values to punch in for mp3 format?
[04:38] <javaJake> I got the profile window open and working. Thank goodness
[04:38] <Jowi> javaJake, not on top of my hand. wait, i check
[04:38] <max1> johns^: the music folder works! thank you
[04:38] <javaJake> Jowi, OK, thanks
[04:39] <Wahro> I'm getting a problem with my dual boot. Error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format. fdisk output-> http://paste.ubuntu.nl.org/657/ . GRUB menu.lst -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/658/ . Would anybody know how to fix it? Thx
[04:39] <javaJake> TimeWaster, post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old (after loading the drivers that crash X, THEN coming back in vesa).
[04:39] <max1> johns^: probabely swat didn't create the folder...it keeps crashing all the time when commiting the changes, but again thanks
[04:40] <xopher-> kenthomson well the first part of the how to actually tells you how to install it, the second part, starting at: 7 or 8 just creates scripts so you can easily mount/umount images, and dont be afraid of all the code, its all just copy pasting ;)
[04:40] <javaJake> TimeWaster, also, it would help to know what card you're using. Most likely someone else has hit this issue, and has posted about it somewheres.
[04:40] <kenthomson> xopher, you see copying pasting is easy, but copying pasting something one doesn't understand is kind of queer or foolish :)
[04:40] <xopher-> lupine_85 there's also a script to create cue files for bin files missing them in the how to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=276743 ;)
[04:41] <Jowi> javaJake, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping
[04:41] <TimeWaster> im running no linux, im in windows right now. the problem appeared when using ubuntu live cd, and is on right now.
[04:41] <kenthomson> lupine_85, i forgot all about gchunk when xopher threw the lure for using GUI to me, sorry :-|
[04:41] <biggahed> hi, could someone please help me figure this out? http://pastebin.com/852718
[04:41] <xopher-> kenthomson dont worry, just paste it where they tell you to and everything should be just fine ;) I dont understand it either (ok, I do, but it doesnt change anything anyway:P )
[04:41] <fleischwurst> www.nixcoders.org - free opensource enemy territory multihack
[04:42] <kenthomson> xopher, it changes somethings, first of all you don;t feel like a bot executing repetetive tasks while copying-pasting :)
[04:42] <fleischwurst> :)
[04:42] <kenthomson> fleischwurst, whats that?
[04:42] <javaJake> TimeWaster, ok, then you'll somehow need to download /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old from your LiveCD onto a floppy or networked computer.  So, in short, those logs would do the trick.
[04:43] <kenthomson> xopher, GUI = easy operation! :)
[04:43] <xopher-> kenthomson good bots usually dont make that many mistakes ;)
[04:43] <TimeWaster> i own a sapphire x1900xt grafics card, and a gigabyte 965P-DS4 rev.1 mainboard
[04:43] <kenthomson> xopher, :), and let me perform all that is in the first how-to right now to report whether everything is going on ok. will you be interested in knowing that?
[04:44] <xopher-> sure, tell me if it worked out fine, and if it didnt, be sure to ask what to do ;)
[04:44] <fleischwurst> kenthomson, a linux opensource hack for enemy territory :)
[04:44] <fleischwurst> thats a game
[04:44] <kenthomson> fleischwurst, ok
[04:44] <xopher-> just make sure you do exactly as they say, but instead of 'make install' do a 'make checkinstall'
[04:45] <kenthomson> fleischwurst, you guys don't even leave games :)
[04:45] <kenthomson> xopher, i shall note that
[04:45] <xopher-> kenthomson so you need to 'sudo apt-get install checkinstall' before that one too
[04:45] <kenthomson> xopher, ok
[04:45] <xopher-> have fun ;)
[04:45] <kenthomson> xopher, checkinstall, done
[04:45] <TimeWaster> ok, how do i get those logs?
[04:45] <phr34ck> What codecs should I get in order to watch .mpg and .mpeg movies?
[04:46] <xopher-> !restricted formats
[04:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:46] <TimeWaster> ive used a ubuntu 6.10 live dvd
[04:46] <javaJake> TimeWaster, does the computer have a floppy drive, and do you have a floppy?
[04:47] <TimeWaster> no
[04:47] <TimeWaster> ive got a cd burner, does that too?
[04:47] <javaJake> TimeWaster, that should work
[04:47] <kenthomson> xopher, ken@ken-ubuntu:~/Desktop$ tar -jxvf cdemu-0.8.tar.bz2
[04:47] <kenthomson> bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.
[04:47] <kenthomson> tar: Child returned status 2
[04:47] <kenthomson> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[04:48] <snooky> hi @ all
[04:48] <JosefK> lo snooky
[04:48] <TimeWaster> javaJake: could you pls prvmsg me? i cant prvmsg you due im not registered
[04:48] <javaJake> TimeWaster, boot the LiveCD, let X crash. Then punch Ctrl+Alt+F1. This will give you a terminal. Run "cp /var/log/Xorg.0.* ~/" to save the logs in your home directory. Burn the Xorg logs onto a disc.
[04:48] <xopher-> kenthomson, actually if you use nautilus-actions, dont do 8 and 9, I prefer nautilus-actions before nautilus scripts, it looks much more integrated with the desktop environment
[04:48] <javaJake> TimeWaster, to register /msg nickserv register <PASSWORD YOU'LL USE TO LOGIN HERE>
[04:49] <javaJake> Then when you come online, login by running /msg nickserv identify <PASSWORD HERE>
[04:49] <kenthomson> xopher, will not perform steps 8,9
[04:49] <xopher-> kenthomson uhm, you're trying to extract the cdemi tar.bz2 which is located on your desktop?
[04:49] <TimeWaster> thank you
[04:49] <kenthomson> xopher, and i have installed nautilus-actions, will it integrate automatically once i finish that howto, or is there anything extra that i have to do?
[04:50] <kenthomson> xopher, yeah it;s on my desktop, and in the terminal to i am at ~/Desktop/
[04:50] <xopher-> kenthomson well you need to download the script, and then install it, it's located here: http://www.grumz.net/?q=node/281&PHPSESSID=93b44296ce953953c067c409c361412b
[04:50] <Xbehave> if u have windows drivers for a device can you do anything to help it work under ubuntu?
[04:50] <black_abaddon> http://s1.bitefight.ba/c.php?uid=37762
[04:50] <lupine_85> Xbehave: for certain things
[04:50] <kenthomson> Xbehave, i doubt
[04:50] <lupine_85> most noticably NDIS drivers
[04:51] <TimeWaster> ok, i will boot ubuntu now... see ya in a couple of minutes... thank you in advance, javaJake
[04:51] <black_abaddon> http://s1.bitefight.ba/c.php?uid=37762
[04:51] <javaJake> TimeWaster, wait, did you get my message?
[04:51] <xopher-> kenthomson ok, maybe its corrupted, try downloading it again, and from a different place
[04:51] <TimeWaster> what?
[04:51] <Xbehave> are there anyguides i could follow, its a webcam but there are no linux drivers for it
[04:51] <black_abaddon> http://s1.bitefight.ba/c.php?uid=37762
[04:51] <javaJake> TimeWaster, I sent you a prvmsg.
[04:52] <lupine_85> Xbehave: windows driveras for that won't work in linux
[04:52] <javaJake> TimeWaster, has my e-mail in it in case I don't get back, so I want to be sure you got that
[04:52] <xopher-> kenthomson if that doesnt work, try renaming it to tar.gz, sometimes files have the extensions screwed up, you can just open it by double clicking, and extracting it with teh GUI ;)
[04:52] <kenthomson> xopher, re-downloaded and extracted fine, am continuing on with the how to
[04:52] <lupine_85> xopher-: tar -xf autodetects as well :)
[04:53] <kenthomson> lupine_85, my CLI hero! :)
[04:53] <lupine_85> :p
[04:53] <xopher-> lupine_85 *kisses* ;p
[04:53] <xopher-> hehe
[04:53] <biotrox> i kind a like to sync my hanheld ipaq with ubuntu can i..?
[04:53] <lupine_85> *ooh*
[04:53] <lupine_85> moar? :p
[04:53] <xopher-> well, roar ;)
[04:53] <javaJake> biotrox, TRAITOR!
[04:54] <javaJake> ;)
[04:54] <xopher-> man I need a cup of coffe
[04:54] <xopher-> ee
[04:54] <lupine_85> :D
[04:54] <xopher-> 'no man file(s) found'
[04:54] <kenthomson> lupine_85, xopher, i did make in ~/Desktop/cdemu0.8/ and got "/bin/sh: Syntax error: Bad fd number
[04:54] <kenthomson> make[1] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic'
[04:54] <kenthomson> /bin/sh: Syntax error: Bad fd number
[04:54] <kenthomson> "
[04:54] <kenthomson> is this bad?
[04:54] <biotrox> !traitor
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about traitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <kenthomson> xopher, you need coffee over IRC?
[04:55] <xopher-> kenthomson I doubt that'll work, coffee over irc hmm
[04:55] <javaJake> kenthomson, next time please use pastebin.com. I know it's a pain, but it does help the rest of us with traffic.
[04:55] <ubuntu_> bjrs a toussss et bonne annee
[04:55] <kenthomson> javaJake, pain is the essential word, but short pastes should be allowed shouldn't it?
[04:55] <break_> i want microsoft fonts, how do i install them
[04:55] <lupine_85> xopher-: RFC rand(MAXINT); has a specification for CoffeeOverIP
[04:55] <kenthomson> lupine_85, xopher about me executing "make" in the extracted dir, i got the above pasted messages, is it sage to continue on?
[04:56] <javaJake> kenthomson, well.... I dunno... I'm not an admin, so I really can't say definitively.
[04:56] <xopher-> kenthomson nope, it didnt 'make'
[04:56] <javaJake> kenthomson, in my book, if you paste more then two lines, it deserves pastebin.
[04:56] <lupine_85> kenthomson: I have no idea what an fd is, sorry
[04:56] <xopher-> make sure you have kernel headers installed and buildessentials
[04:56] <lupine_85> file descriptor?
[04:56] <kenthomson> xopher, buildessentials is
[04:56] <pvt_harv> hi all, i was trying to install an LDAP server in my box, installation went well but i observed that i don't have the ldapadd command
[04:56] <xopher-> kenthomson do the two first steps in the second how to ;) hehe
[04:57] <kenthomson> xopher, ya
[04:57] <xopher-> they just assume you knew this in the first one *rolleyes*
[04:57] <kenthomson> xopher, lupine_85 if i "sudo apt-get install demo" then if demo is already installed will it be re-downloaded, re-configured, re-installed over my existing one?
[04:58] <biotrox> javacake | what do you mean by traitor..?
[04:58] <xopher-> kenthomson it'll say its installed, and wont do anything, if you dont add some other parameters to the command
[04:58] <adub> how do you install a .sh file
[04:58] <xopher-> adub sh filename.sh
[04:59] <lupine_85> kenthomson: --reinstall will do the trick
[04:59] <xopher-> adub make sure its executable first
[04:59] <biotrox> oooo i understand.. cause ipaq using windows mobile than you call me a traitor.. :(
[04:59] <javaJake> biotrox, mm, well ipaq is a M$ product. I was kiddin'. I wouldn't mind using a PPC myself.
[04:59] <kenthomson> lupine_85, ok
[04:59] <javaJake> They _are_ nifty.
[04:59] <biotrox> he he he he
[04:59] <javaJake> Anyway, BRB
[04:59] <biotrox> no problemo
[05:00] <biotrox> but do you know how to sync my ipaq to ubuntu..?
[05:00] <biotrox> !ipaq
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipaq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <biotrox> !sync
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <biotrox> !active sync
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about active sync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <javaJake> !ppc
[05:00] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[05:00] <javaJake> oop
[05:00] <javaJake> !pocketpc
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pocketpc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <javaJake> !palmos
[05:00] <ubotu> A good guide for setting up Palm devices is at http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/PalmOS-HOWTO.html#PC-CONNECT-USB
[05:00] <javaJake> OK....
[05:00] <kenthomson> lupine_85, xopher "/bin/sh: Syntax error: Bad fd number
[05:00] <kenthomson> make[1] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic'
[05:00] <kenthomson> /bin/sh: Syntax error: Bad fd number
[05:00] <kenthomson>   Building modules, stage 2.
[05:00] <kenthomson>   MODPOST
[05:00] <kenthomson> make[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic'
[05:00] <kenthomson> "
[05:00] <kenthomson> what do i do?
[05:01] <minimec> biotrox: use multisync. There you have the possibility to sync with the evolution plugin. You might have to install that plugin too.
[05:01] <javaJake> biotrox, I'd try Google. something like "linux pocketpc sync"
[05:01] <xopher-> kenthomson well, first, use pastebin when pasting more than one line of text/code :)
[05:01] <javaJake> HA! Told you kenthomson! :D
[05:01] <kenthomson> xopher, make that :) ---> :(
[05:01] <xopher-> :D
[05:01] <kenthomson> javaJake, :(
[05:01] <black_abaddon> http://s1.bitefight.ba/c.php?uid=37762
[05:01] <break_> sill somebody explain to me how you install a font?!?
[05:01] <minimec> biotrox: I think there is a newer version than the *.deb of the repo on the homepage.
[05:01] <break_> i drag and drop
[05:01] <break_> and it doesnt go
[05:02] <kenthomson> break_, open nauitilus and type "fonts:///" drag and drop, and it works
[05:02] <black_abaddon> i have a great home made linux programe
[05:02] <break_> no, it doesn't work
[05:02] <black_abaddon> http://s1.bitefight.ba/c.php?uid=37762
[05:02] <javaJake> black_abaddon, this is not the place to advertise.
[05:02] <jrib> break_: what happens?
[05:02] <Thug-N-Me> where is the config file for cedega in ubuntu ?
[05:02] <break_> absolutely nothing
[05:02] <pvt_harv> hi all, i was trying to install an LDAP server in my box, installation went well but i observed that i don't have the ldapadd command. how can i install 'ldapadd' command?
[05:02] <jrib> break_: ls -ld ~/.fonts
[05:03] <lupine_85> Thug-N-Me: ~/.cedega ?
[05:03] <break_> drwxr-xr-x 2 dan dan 4096 2007-01-06 10:52 /home/dan/.fonts
[05:03] <lupine_85> pvt_harv: search for it on packages.ubuntu.com
[05:03] <black_abaddon> yes it does try again
[05:03] <black_abaddon> http://s1.bitefight.ba/c.php?uid=37762
[05:03] <lupine_85> or install apt-file
[05:03] <lupine_85> whatever works for you
[05:03] <jrib> break_: can you copy the .ttf into ~/.fonts?
[05:03] <javaJake> break_, sometimes you need to restart a program to get it to recognize the new font
[05:04] <kenthomson> lupine_85, xopher could you please help me, i couldn't "make" ~/Desktop/cdemu-0.8/
[05:04] <break_> its not even copying into the folder
[05:04] <Thug-N-Me> lupine_85 not there
[05:04] <lupine_85> kenthomson: I don't know the error, sorry
[05:04] <xopher-> kenthomson Im looking into it, hmm, dont get the fd number
[05:04] <jrib> break_: what does it say when you try to use the terminal to copy it?
[05:04] <kenthomson> xopher, as compiling doesn;t work, a .deb would help
[05:04] <igcek> helo, my alt and alt gr keys dont work, help please
[05:04] <break_> i'm not using terminal to copy it
[05:05] <ar1s> hi people
[05:05] <jrib> break_: use the terminal to copy it...
[05:05] <break_> i tried dragging and dropping it
[05:05] <biotrox> !multisync
[05:05] <ubotu> multisync: A program to synchronize PIM data. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.82-6.1 (edgy), package size 77 kB, installed size 284 kB
[05:05] <ar1s> i'm trying to find a way of printing several pdf pages on the same sheet
[05:05] <break_> tahoma.ttf
[05:05] <adub> xopher how do i check to see if the sh is executable
[05:05] <Thug-N-Me> ~/.cedega/configuration_profiles/cedega_5.2.9  could be this one ?
[05:05] <Thug-N-Me> lupine_85 ~/.cedega/configuration_profiles/cedega_5.2.9  could be this one ?
[05:06] <lupine_85> sure, why nort
[05:06] <lupine_85> not*
[05:06] <lupine_85> it's in the right place
[05:06] <GuerrillaWon> Can someone point me to the right direction for booting up without the cd?
[05:06] <wasabi__> i compiled at new kernel on my latitude x1, after restarting on the new kernel, i get a boot message saying "udevd something... inotify is not supported on the cpu"
[05:06] <GuerrillaWon> I suppose it's a grub configuration setting but I'm not sure.
[05:06] <wasabi__> i checked the kernel config and inotify was unchecked
[05:06] <Thug-N-Me> lupine_85 hope so, i need to add something at the bottom of the config file of cedega
[05:07] <adub> can an sh be installed from anywhere this has a padlock on it
[05:07] <adub> this sh file does
[05:07] <adub> and i cant install it from anywhere
[05:07] <wasabi__> anyone know how to fix it?
[05:07] <xopher-> kenthomson, check out /usr/src, the new header files you installed should be there, extracted in a folder, make a symbolic link named 'linux' in /usr/src that points to the linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic or whatever its called, then run make again, about the debs, couldnt find any :/
[05:07] <jrib> adub: what are you trying to install?
[05:07] <javaJake> adub, an sh file is a script. It is a set of commands that are run when you double-click on it.
[05:07] <adub> crossover office
[05:08] <lupine_85> xopher-: it could also be the (correct :D) /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build symlink
[05:08] <kenthomson> xopher, the new header files were not installed, when i followed the two steps in that how-to it told me that "already newest headers were installed", or something to that effect
[05:08] <xopher-> lupine_85 yeah
[05:08] <vvlaw> anybody know what lead to this problem ?
[05:08] <xopher-> kenthomson well check it out anyway
[05:09] <ar1s> hey, nobody knows a way to print several pages per sheet from a pdf file ? :(
[05:09] <[BTF] Chm0d> morning guys. has anyone ever had a problem with an application for example my Konversation does not go in the systray although in the settings its configured for that?  It was fine yesterday.
[05:09] <vvlaw> mp_msg.o: In function `mp_msg':
[05:09] <vvlaw> mp_msg.c:(.text+0x1f7): undefined reference to `guiMessageBox'
[05:09] <vvlaw> libvo/libvo.a(video_out.o):(.data+0x20): undefined reference to `video_out_xv'
[05:09] <vvlaw> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[05:09] <vvlaw> make: *** [mplayer]  Error 1
[05:09] <roryy> ar1s: i think pdftk can do that; 'apt-cache search pdftk'
[05:09] <jrib> adub: have you tried running   sh file.sh   in a terminal?
[05:09] <ar1s> i'll check, thanks
[05:09] <adub> sh: Can't open install-crossover-pro-5.0.3.
[05:09] <black_abaddon> http://s1.bitefight.ba/c.php?uid=37762
[05:09] <[BTF] Chm0d> ar1s:  dont you have the option in your printer properties to make as many copies as you want to whatever page?
[05:09] <black_abaddon> try my program
[05:10] <adub> jrib yes i will say there is a padlock on the file i have tried as root and as normal user
[05:10] <kabtoffe> xopher-: morjens
[05:10] <jrib> adub: what does  ls -l file.sh  say?
[05:10] <roryy> ar1s: also take a look at pdfjam package, specifically the pdfnup command
[05:10] <xopher-> kabtoffe heya
[05:10] <ar1s> [BTF] Chm0d, yes but it's not what I want
[05:10] <kenthomson> xopher, i don't know how to make symbolic links
[05:10] <jrib> adub: do you know if you *need* to run the file as root?
[05:10] <[BTF] Chm0d> ok sorry misundertood
[05:10] <[BTF] Chm0d> *s
[05:10] <lupine_85> ln -s target link_name
[05:10] <cat> kennyt, is ln -s
[05:10] <break_> this is one reason why i hate using linux
[05:10] <break_> NOTHING i find on the internet works
[05:10] <cat> linux is nice,
[05:10] <ar1s> roryy, ok. I've looked at pdfjoin but its documentation is very bad
[05:11] <adub> im an idiot i was leaving off the sh
[05:11] <break_> all i'm trying to do is install a font
[05:11] <break_> and it doesnt work
[05:11] <[BTF] Chm0d> break_:  you have no patience linux by far is more stable than ms
[05:11] <xopher-> kenthomson or graphically running a root nautilus, just drag the folder holding shift IIRC, then rename
[05:11] <break_> yeah its stable
[05:11] <break_> but you cant do as much
[05:11] <[BTF] Chm0d> i do more
[05:11] <cat> break_, depends what you really used linux for
[05:11] <[BTF] Chm0d> i have xp runnin in vmware in case for any reason i need it.  what font are you installing?
[05:12] <kenthomson> xopher, how do i run a root nautilus? I got so many questions :(
[05:12] <break_> tahoma.ttf
[05:12] <xopher-> kenthomson gksu nautilus
[05:12] <black_abaddon> http://s1.bitefight.ba/c.php?uid=37762
[05:12] <break_> i have windows installed on another drive
[05:12] <break_> and that drive is mounted to /media/windows
[05:12] <cat> why even bother using windows?
[05:12] <lupine_85> break_: why not just install msttcorefonts?
[05:12] <[BTF] Chm0d> ive been away from windows for months
[05:12] <lupine_85> tahoma is sure to be in that
[05:12] <break_> tahoma.ttf isnt
[05:13] <lupine_85> wow
[05:13] <lupine_85> gnome?
[05:13] <[BTF] Chm0d> hmm lemme see
[05:13] <break_> yes
[05:13] <[BTF] Chm0d> i have msfonts installed
[05:13] <ar1s> roryy, pdfnup seems to be the one command :) thanks
[05:13] <lupine_85> there should be an fonts utility in the control panel
[05:13] <lupine_85> probably a cache somewhere needs rebuilding, and adding the font using the gUI will do that for you
[05:13] <xopher-> Im on a windoze computer atm so..
[05:13] <break_> all it lets you do is view them and change a few options
[05:13] <masura> Anyone could tell a good ftp server program with easy GUI? :)
[05:14] <xopher-> masura gftp
[05:14] <xopher-> nvm
[05:14] <xopher-> *needs to start reading whole lines before acting*
[05:15] <masura> xopher, does gftp offer a server program too?
[05:15] <lupine_85> erm, no
[05:15] <lupine_85> proftpd + gedit ?
[05:15] <[BTF] Chm0d> hmm tahoma not in gedit
[05:15] <xopher-> masura, that's what I meant by the last two lines I wrote, thought you were looking for a client app, sorry ;)
[05:15] <[BTF] Chm0d> just in crossoffice
[05:15] <hansi1238912> hello !  short question : is there a file which lists ALL packages i installed in the past (like synaptic->file->history) ??
[05:15] <HS^> hello can i install all packages in a directory with dpkg -i *.deb
[05:15] <HS^> ?
[05:15] <xopher-> yes
[05:16] <jrib> HS^: yes
[05:16] <HS^> ok
[05:16] <lupine_85> webmin used to work, but isn't in the repos any more
[05:16] <lupine_85> e.g.
[05:16] <lupine_85> !webmin
[05:16] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[05:16] <jrib> break_: did using the terminal give you anymore info about why it isn't copying?
[05:16] <biotrox> !multisync
[05:16] <lupine_85> booo :p
[05:16] <ubotu> multisync: A program to synchronize PIM data. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.82-6.1 (edgy), package size 77 kB, installed size 284 kB
[05:16] <masura> xopher, Ok. gFTP is a pretty good client anyway =)
[05:16] <jasin> hi
[05:17] <jasin> happy saturday
[05:17] <adub> has anyone installed office 2003 through crossover office
[05:17] <[BTF] Chm0d> adub: i have
[05:17] <xxhp2007> Hi !!!!!!!!!!
[05:17] <[BTF] Chm0d> works fine
[05:17] <[BTF] Chm0d> hi xxhp2007
[05:17] <xxhp2007> all ubuntu users??? :D
[05:18] <xxhp2007> good :D
[05:18] <adub> <[BTF] Chm0d well mine says too old of a windows or need newer windows
[05:18] <jasin> I dont install microsoft software
[05:18] <Jowi> hansi1238912, you can get which ones are installed atm at least with  "dpkg-query -l"
[05:18] <vvlaw> http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/1285
[05:18] <kenthomson> xopher, should i make a symbolic link called linux for linuxheaders-xxx or linuxheaders-xxx-generic? There are two such header files
[05:18] <vvlaw>  there are something i got
[05:18] <vvlaw> anybody can go there to see and help me ?
[05:18] <adub> <[BTF] Chm0d newer windows version needed
[05:18] <xxhp2007> I hate windows
[05:18] <[BTF] Chm0d> i have officexp i believe is what i installed
[05:19] <jasin> make your link: linux
[05:19] <xxhp2007> please don't call devil :D
[05:19] <xxhp2007> officexp?? whats that shit??
[05:19] <adub> well i heard office 2003 was installable
[05:19] <xopher-> kenthomson the -generic
[05:19] <xxhp2007> openoffice rox :D
[05:19] <kenthomson> xopher, ok
[05:19] <hansi1238912> Jowi: thx
[05:19] <kenthomson> xxhp2007, in reality it doesn't :(
[05:19] <kritzstapf> where to define a key-shortcut for changing the keyboard-layout? (gnome)
[05:19] <xxhp2007> wwhy not?
[05:19] <JayRoe> Can someone tell me why I have to run a "make install" in lirc every time I have rebooted in order to make it work?
[05:20] <[BTF] Chm0d> if I am not mistaken I dont think it will install just office2003
[05:20] <[BTF] Chm0d> dont remember
[05:20] <xxhp2007> make install?
[05:20] <xxhp2007> of what?
[05:20] <JayRoe> lirc
[05:20] <jasin> why on earth would anyone want ms office????????
[05:21] <[BTF] Chm0d> it says it will install the professional version of office 2003
[05:21] <xopher-> kenthomson try tabbing for xopher-, because it wont highlight otherwise, and I might miss a question. . Im at my parents atm so ircing with an alternative handle
[05:21] <javaJake> jasin, maybe, just maybe, OOo doesn't have features that I'd want. :P
[05:21] <javaJake> And MS does
[05:21] <jasin> java, haha
[05:21] <Jowi> hansi1238912, if you want only the names use: dpkg-query -l | awk {'print $2'}
[05:21] <JayRoe> xxhp2007 it works right now, but as soon as I reboot it doesn't work anymore. Then I have to go to /usr/src/lirc-0.8.1pre2/ and run a make install and then it works again.
[05:21] <kenthomson> xopher-, infact i am tabbing it! but it doesn't do that automatically
[05:22] <J0HN> !resolution | J0HN
[05:22] <ubotu> J0HN: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:22] <jasin> crossover is nit free and neither is ms office
[05:22] <lupine_85> jasin: MS Office is crap, but OOo is inadequate for a lot of things
[05:22] <jasin> crossover is not free and neither is ms office
[05:22] <kenthomson> lupine_85, so what do you use nothing?
[05:22] <lupine_85> money isn't everything :p
[05:22] <lupine_85> no, I use ms office :(
[05:23] <javaJake> lupine_85, jasin, precisely!
[05:23] <lupine_85> I wish I could use OOo, but it just doesn't have the features I need
[05:23] <javaJake> Sometimes spending a few hundred bucks are actually worth it.
[05:23] <javaJake> Well, there is one feature I wish OOo had. Importing address book information onto labels for printouts.
[05:23] <javaJake> That one MS has, OOo doesn't.
[05:24] <lupine_85> javaJake: I'm pretty sure it has mail merge
[05:24] <lupine_85> if not, you have to ask wtf they're doing
[05:24] <lupine_85> what I miss are the scientific features - especially in calc
[05:24] <jasin> I use gnome office :)
[05:24] <javaJake> lupine_85, OOo does, but not from a DB.   In log/messages my touchpad is set to different inputs, as a result my touchpad settings don't work until I kill X and log back in
[05:24] <[BTF] Chm0d> LOL
[05:24] <jasin> lupine, koffice has that stuff
[05:24] <lupine_85> javaJake: I bet it's easy to generate said file, though :0
[05:24] <javaJake> [BTF] Chm0d, heh, bet it was an illegal copy. :)
[05:24] <break_> alright
[05:24] <lupine_85> mysql, sed and awk are there for a reason :p
[05:25] <adub> im having trouble getting monitor mode to work with an atheros chipset wifi card can someone help  me???
[05:25] <break_> i give up
[05:25] <javaJake> lupine_85, hmmm... yea...
[05:25] <break_> this is bullshit
[05:25] <kenthomson> xopher- ,  i made the symbolic link, still 'make' doesn;t work, i am on Ubuntu 6.10 GNOME
[05:25] <javaJake> !language | break
[05:25] <ubotu> break: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:25] <TimeWaster> rehi
[05:25] <xopher-> kenthomson you get the exactly same error?
[05:25] <javaJake> TimeWaster, hey, you made it
[05:25] <break_> alright
[05:25] <jasin> i want open source software. I am in linux!
[05:25] <kenthomson> xopher- ,  ya
[05:25] <TimeWaster> yap ;o)
[05:25] <jrib> break_: why don't you try my suggestion?
[05:25] <break_> what suggestion?
[05:25] <lupine_85> jasin: I want FOSS too, but I also want a degree :/
[05:26] <javaJake> TimeWaster, did ya get the logs?
[05:26] <jrib> break_: to copy it using the terminal and see if you get an error
[05:26] <break_> no
[05:26] <masura> haha
[05:26] <break_> it doesn't erro
[05:26] <kenthomson> xopher, uname -r
[05:26] <kenthomson> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[05:26] <[BTF] Chm0d> java dunno came from some computer co can't remember name for that was years ago and I have crs
[05:26] <jasin> lupine, a bs? Its all bs.
[05:26] <kenthomson> xopher, no wait, wrong paste
[05:26] <xopher-> kenthomson, please, use a pastebin
[05:26] <javaJake> [BTF] Chm0d, Oh, OK
[05:26] <jrib> break_: and what does  ls ~/.fonts/tahoma.ttf  say?
[05:26] <javaJake> TimeWaster, BRB, gotta grab something to chew.
[05:26] <xopher-> !pastebin
[05:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:26] <lupine_85> jasin: B.Sc. Biology
[05:26] <kenthomson> xopher, there is nothing to paste, same error BTW
[05:27] <xopher-> ok
[05:27] <break_> /home/dan/.fonts/tahoma.ttf
[05:27] <lupine_85> so little things like decent Y-axis error bars are important ;)
[05:27] <jrib> break_: then you've installed teh font
[05:27] <jasin> lupine, 90% of the stuff you learn in college you'll never use in real life.
[05:27] <break_> why isnt it showing up in that folder?
[05:27] <xopher-> it still seems like it cant find the headers, cause another guy had exactly the same error
[05:27] <lupine_85> jasin: college?
[05:27] <lupine_85> I'm at uni
[05:27] <xopher-> wait a sec
[05:27] <jrib> break_: it's there, try reloading nautilus maybe?
[05:27] <jasin> lupine, lol
[05:27] <kenthomson> xopher- , ok
[05:27] <[BTF] Chm0d> LOL
[05:27] <pol> l
[05:27] <lupine_85> and 100% of the stuff I learn, I'll use at some point
[05:28] <[BTF] Chm0d> i love leeeenux
[05:28] <lupine_85> biology being what it is
[05:28] <lupine_85> 95% of a *social "science"* degree, maybe :p
[05:28] <jasin> lupine, yeah, sure you do.
[05:28] <xopher-> kenthomson paste(bin) the output of this: sudo ls -la /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build
[05:28] <xopher-> kenthomson in the cdemu folder
[05:28] <roryy> jrib: i'm not sure a font in ~/.fonts will show up in Nautilus' fonts:/ virtual directory; mine don't.
[05:29] <lupine_85> jasin: yep
[05:29] <dcordes> what other operating system except of ubuntu and debian are using dpkg?
[05:29] <kenthomson> xopher, did you get a pm?
[05:29] <Hobbsee> dcordes: mepis?
[05:29] <jrib> roryy: mine do, but it may only show up after the font-cache is rebuilt
[05:29] <xopher-> kenthomson ye
[05:29] <lupine_85> dcordes: anything forked from debian
[05:29] <jasin> The social scientists help people, unlike the biologist.
[05:29] <Hobbsee> dcordes: ubuntu derivatives
[05:29] <lupine_85> fork debian, catch dpkg
[05:29] <lupine_85> etc
[05:29] <kenthomson> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 2006-12-26 01:01 /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/build -> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic
[05:29] <kenthomson> yuck sorry
[05:30] <lupine_85> jasin: I'd hate to point out that agricultural science is a subset of biology, but there you go
[05:30] <kenthomson> xopher, half came as a pm to you
[05:30] <lupine_85> as is medical science
[05:30] <kenthomson> xopher, and half got pasted here :(
[05:30] <xopher-> kenthomson eheh
[05:31] <kritzstapf> hum, cant find out where to define a shortcut for changing the keyboard layout (de-us), anybody knows sth.?
[05:31] <lupine_85> http://www.pbfcomics.com/archive/0PBF38032BC-Suicide_Train.jpg :p
[05:31] <xopher-> kenthomson that seems to be in order anyway..
[05:31] <dcordes> lupine_85: i just wanna try out some other oss
[05:31] <lupine_85> dcordes: anything using .deb is essentially debian
[05:31] <dcordes> lupine_85: tyring to avoid rpm :-)
[05:31] <jasin> Agricultural science is a broad multidisciplinary field that encompasses the parts of exact, natural, economic, and social sciences that are used in the practice and understanding of agriculture.
[05:31] <lupine_85> if you want something different, try gentoo
[05:31] <red_> i have all the necessary software for nfs installed on my computer. hoe do i setup a network?
[05:31] <dcordes> is there anything else besides rpm and debian?
[05:31] <dcordes> dpkg
[05:31] <Jowi> lupine_85, jasin: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:32] <lupine_85> heh, 's ok.
[05:32] <kenthomson> So what am i supposed to do?
[05:32] <jasin> Wahro, dual boot what?
[05:33] <Wahro> XP & Ubuntu
[05:33] <lupine_85> kenthomson: spam another pastebin
[05:33] <kenthomson> lupine_85, i am not spamming it
[05:33] <kenthomson> lupine_85, i am pasting the output of a command xopher gave me and told me to paste
[05:33] <xopher-> lupine_85, about the fd number error http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/09/19/bad-fd-number
[05:33] <kenthomson> lupine_85, :(
[05:33] <fleischwurst> Take time for yourself and masturbate daily. With all your efforts toward self-improvement, don't forget to reward yourself with some good old-fashioned masturbation. It's one of the best ways to relax, ease your tension, and get in touch with your body. Take a time-out from your hectic schedule and spend some quality time with yourself. And of course, Masturbate for   Peace.
[05:33] <lupine_85> good tip, thanks
[05:33] <fleischwurst> np
[05:34] <lupine_85> ah, fscking dash again
[05:34] <xopher-> kenthomson hm, at the cdemu homepage, they say you need the source
[05:34] <jasin> Wahro, is grub installed?
[05:34] <red_> any help with setting up a network?
[05:34] <TimeWaster> fleischwurst: cool tip ;o)
[05:34] <Wahro> yeh.. it shows the boot menu when starting up
[05:34] <kenthomson> xopher, ya
[05:34] <Wahro> but when I press the windows entry.. it doesn't work
[05:34] <xopher-> kenthomson so try installing the kernel source instead
[05:34] <xopher-> if that would help :)
[05:34] <LuisMendes> anyone knows a program that can merge subtitles with the movie file?
[05:35] <kenthomson> xopher, that wouldn't help :(
[05:35] <lupine_85> nah, mv /bin/sh /bin/sh-dash
[05:35] <jasin> Wahro, ok good
[05:35] <lupine_85> then ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh
[05:35] <kenthomson> xopher, thank you for all your unabated efforts, i really appreciate it
[05:35] <lupine_85> et voila, it's fix0red
[05:35] <Wahro> jasin - msg is: GRUB Loading Stage2...
[05:36] <jrib> lupine_85: you can just  sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash  instead
[05:36] <kenthomson> lupine_85, xopher, this is one more compromise that i have made with FOSS, and the compromises that i have made with FOSS are so many, that unlike before when i sit to use Ubuntu i feel like a dumb head compromising on things, due to some unrealistic pholisophy :(
[05:36] <jasin> Wahro, you will need to edit your grub.lst
[05:36] <Wahro> menu.lst ?
[05:36] <xopher-> kenthomson oh, well, you could always convert the bin files, and install a config file for nautilus-actions that mounts only isos instead ;)
[05:36] <xopher-> I see
[05:36] <lupine_85> mm, dash is cool
[05:37] <lupine_85> it's juat a pity it's default
[05:37] <jasin> Wahro, vi /boot/grub/grub.lst
[05:37] <CrazyPirateNinja> hey, I just killed my old OS, which I don't really mind because, I had backed everything up, but I'm looking for a new one, and I was just wondering, has WPA support been improved in 6.10 (over 6.06)?
[05:37] <jasin> Wahro, or gedit /boot/grub/grub.lst
[05:37] <lupine_85> s/vi/nano for much simpler life
[05:37] <lupine_85> and it's menu.lst
[05:37] <Wahro> then.. what do I need to change it to?
[05:38] <Wahro> fdisk output-> http://paste.ubuntu.nl.org/657/
[05:38] <Wahro> GRUB menu.lst -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/658/
[05:38] <kenthomson> lupine_85, xopher- , it's not this time, this has happened to me so many times, when someone like me just wants a .bin .cue CD, which ALL the windows users in the world can achieve with a point of click, and i have to go through learning about headers/ source/ symlinks and all the crap that i would never have needed just to USE it. SO how do you expect me to get some GODDAMN WORK done, using ubuntu or any FOSS, if the configuration/installation proce
[05:38] <kenthomson> ss is a pain in the ***? :(
[05:38] <gpd> When running KDE with Beryl I sometimes get GNOME desktop icons and Background? Any idea why?
[05:38] <lupine_85> kenthomson: don't like it? Write a FOSS toll that gives you a GUI
[05:39] <lupine_85> contribute cdemu to MOTU
[05:39] <TimeWaster> mv * /dev/null
[05:39] <kenthomson> xopher, lupine_85 i still am no where near to compiling it, still "make" fails
[05:39] <Ray-Newbie> Hello - I hope someone can help me here - I have ubuntu 6.10 on MS VPC, and when I shut down and restart the next time, it doesn't recognize ubuntu and just gives me the "insert book disk" prompt, and I have to reinstall.
[05:39] <lupine_85> lots of things you could do to make life easier
[05:39] <xopher-> kenthomson it might be a pain in the ass to get set up, but when it's there, it works, and it works great..
[05:39] <Yavin> <-- needs some help with ethernet driver
[05:39] <Yavin> :[
[05:39] <kenthomson> lupine_85, i told you, i am here to get some 'WORK DONE', not contributing learning writing about countless other concepts that i never would have otherwise needed
[05:40] <lupine_85> oh noes! your Free stuff isn't perfect!
[05:40] <xopher-> kenthomson well the simplest way to do it, without any compiling, is to convert it to an iso, then just mount it
[05:40] <Yavin> been bustin' my ass trying to get online via ubuntu =\
[05:40] <lupine_85> if you want it to become better, you have to contribute
[05:40] <lupine_85> that's how FOSS works
[05:41] <FurryNemesis> hi all
[05:41] <TimeWaster> hi
[05:41] <Yavin> lo
[05:41] <francalier> lupine_85 is what's known as an arrogant elitist.
[05:41] <FurryNemesis> anyone know of a good philosophy channel or academic server?
[05:41] <kenthomson> lupine_85, why can't i shell out some $$$ to M$ and achieve all the peace of mind, that FOSS has looted away from me the day i installed it, and forced me to make unacceptable compromises just because i agree with what that JOker RMS thinks?
[05:41] <kenthomson> :(
[05:41] <lupine_85> kenthomson: you could
[05:41] <francalier> FurryNemesis: #philosophy
[05:41] <lupine_85> then you'd be contributing to microsoft rather than to linux
[05:41] <lupine_85> whether you contribute money or time is your choice
[05:42] <lupine_85> francalier: I'm a realist
[05:42] <FurryNemesis> francalier, tried that, doesn't seem to exist
[05:42] <kenthomson> lupine_85, if linux is this, than i shan't want anyone to use it
[05:42] <KenSentMe> I want to debug gnome-system-tools but when i install gnome-system-tools-dbgsym it depends on ubuntu2 version of g-s-t, but the current version is Ubuntu4. Do i need to install the older version or is there some other solution to this?
[05:42] <lupine_85> kenthomson: fair enough
[05:42] <francalier> FurryNemesis: #thought
[05:42] <kenthomson> lupine_85, i will contribute $$$$$$ anyday over time, time = priceless
[05:42] <jonty_rocks3> help!
[05:42] <jrib> kenthomson: you can contribute money to bounties if you want
[05:42] <lupine_85> then rentacoder.com to do it for you?
[05:42] <Yavin> errrr, help :X ?
[05:42] <x-r00t-x> sup guys ?
[05:42] <xopher-> ANYWAY, this is not the channel to discuss this, this is strictly for help.
[05:42] <jonty_rocks3> can anyone help me??
[05:42] <jrib> !helpe | jonty_rocks3
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about helpe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <xopher-> jonty_rocks3 just ask your question
[05:42] <jonty_rocks3> yes...
[05:43] <x-r00t-x> jrib, sup dude :D
[05:43] <jonty_rocks3> ok
[05:43] <Wahro> any1 knows how I can fix menu.lst then?
[05:43] <jrib> x-r00t-x: hi
[05:43] <x-r00t-x> long time no see jrib.
[05:43] <jonty_rocks3> 2 questions. first, can I change my screen refresh rate through command line?
[05:43] <jonty_rocks3> second, i cannot mount cd's or usb memory sticks etc
[05:43] <KenSentMe> !fixres | jonty_rocks3
[05:43] <ubotu> jonty_rocks3: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:44] <KenSentMe> jonty_rocks3: check the last link in ubotu's reaction
[05:44] <jonty_rocks3> brb
[05:44] <Yavin> I've got 2 network cards and ubuntu doesn't recognise neither of them in 'Network Settings' - need an online driver perhaps
[05:45] <kenthomson> lupine_85, and spending countless hours researching on net, downloading scripts compiling this and that, when something doesn't work in FOSS, is simply unacceptable to people like me who just need to get some 'work done'.  It is simply taking a too great time from my life, and is needlesly focusing my efforts in making sur
[05:45] <kenthomson> e my applications run, rather than making sure i get some work done
[05:45] <kenthomson> :( i am highly dissapointed
[05:46] <Yavin> yeah
[05:46] <ephesius> kenthomson: what problems are you having
[05:46] <mo> how can i get my intel ipw3945-wlan-chip working on a self-baked 2.6.19-kernel? i'm using edgy and under a 2.6.17-kernel i just have to install the linux-restricted-modules to get my wireless working. can i install the 2.6.19-kernel and -restricted-modules from the feisty-repository?
[05:47] <jonty_rocks3> KenSentMe doesnt work still =(
[05:47] <kenthomson> ephesius, a HELLof'a'lot, and the problems i am having keep on increasing day by day, as i use more and more of this OS.
[05:47] <lupine_85> kenthomson: no warranty is given or implied with GPL software. it's in the license.
[05:47] <ephesius> kenthomson: could you be a little more detailed
[05:48] <kenthomson> lupine_85, if someone in GPL is so sure how the purity/peer-review of his SOFTWARE, why not imply warranty?
[05:48] <jonty_rocks3> grr i cannot mount things!
[05:48] <lupine_85> because then the original author would be liable
[05:48] <kenthomson> lupine_85, that's simple lousiness, that has pushed and ditched users into a endless put
[05:48] <lupine_85> no. something doesn't work *for you*
[05:48] <jonty_rocks3> Unable to mount "cdname" Failed to determine the mount point for /dev/hdc
[05:48] <jonty_rocks3> ='(
[05:49] <jonty_rocks3> can anyone help me?
[05:49] <KenSentMe> kenthomson: please move your discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic or something. This is a support channel
[05:49] <black_abaddon> http://s1.bitefight.ba/c.php?uid=37762
[05:49] <Spaghetti_Knife> Hi, is there an mIRC-like IRC client for Ubuntu? I want one with integrated scripting language that works exactly like mIRC's.
[05:50] <lupine_85> Spaghetti_Knife: mIRC in wine?
[05:50] <publicaldo> looking for assistance with wireless on laptop.  Anyone there?