[02:01] <Ron__> this is my first time asking question here
[02:01] <prower> godmachine81: Oh, yeah...well the theme is a bit off, but there's good ones available :>
[02:01] <SBlade> I added beryl-manager to my startup on my user account, and its preventing gnome from starting. how do i edit a user's startup session from the console as root? anyone please help
[02:01] <dagrump> well i had a ?, but it looks as though my issue is minor so I'll refrain.
[02:01] <godmachine81> prower:: they dont work
[02:01] <variant> Ron__: yeah, you asked the same one 60 times now
[02:02] <boricua> when i run now in edgy update manager i see  libggi2 and mplayer as updates but it is greyd out without able to select it why?\
[02:02] <nbx909> rag, yeah click on the install icon on the desktop
[02:02] <xexos-[afk] > ompaul, but i got to go now so im leaving, bye
[02:02] <Ron__> yes tat is because i cant get an ans
[02:02] <coz_> NemesisD, what usb adaptor do you have?
[02:02] <rag> nbx909: not start desktop...
[02:02] <Linux101> so what is the biggest and best package list -- Edgy, Dapper, Breezy, Warty, etc..
[02:02] <wastrel> Ron_:  did you try firestarter?
[02:02] <Ron__> ya i tried
[02:02] <Garcher> nbx909: i want a clean install
[02:02] <NemesisD> coz_, i have a dwl-g132 A2 by d-link
[02:02] <rag> nbx909: i have a problem on "Starting ACPI Services..."
[02:02] <cafuego> Linux101: Dapper
[02:02] <godmachine81> Linux101:: thats a kinda crazy question
[02:02] <ompaul> Linux101, the one for your version of the distro
[02:02] <nbx909> Garcher, put the disk in the drive and reboot
[02:02] <NsOmNiAc> next question installing webmin on the edgy eft
[02:02] <Ron__> even if i go inside and open a port
[02:02] <rag> nbx909: it not start nothing
[02:02] <Linux101> so you think Dapper has the best
[02:02] <coz_> NemesisD,  did  you check to see if that was supported
[02:02] <wastrel> edgy has the best packages since they're newer
[02:02] <Ron__> it doesnt work
[02:03] <ompaul> !webmin
[02:03] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[02:03] <NsOmNiAc> anyone know what the file is called in apt ?
[02:03] <nbx909> rag, so acpi services doesn't start?
[02:03] <Ron__> i need to install service that will listen on the port
[02:03] <Linux101> ill look over Dappers List
[02:03] <astopy> SBlade: would probably be easier to just remove beryl
[02:03] <Ron__> i mean
[02:03] <Garcher> nbx909: but that wouldnt erase windows too?
[02:03] <cafuego> Linux101: if you need to ask, you should be using Dapper. it's stable.
[02:03] <ianmacgregor> !webmin
[02:03] <grndslm> soo...can anybody explain to me the difference between sun-java5-bin sun-java5-jre java-package java-runtime java-common & java2-runtime???  or at least tell me the necessary ones to enjoy hassle-free ubuntuing??
[02:03] <prower> How's Beryl with regard to stability?
[02:03] <rag> nbx909: it doesn't start
[02:03] <Ron__> if i installed postfix in another pc..
[02:03] <NsOmNiAc> you have something you could suggest better ?
[02:03] <wastrel> there's no webmin in apt
[02:03] <NemesisD> coz_, yeah it is, it uses the atheros (sp?) chipset
[02:03] <nbx909> Garcher, not if you don't select the windows partition to install on
[02:03] <Linux101> I asked  because i want a Default install that has basically all the packs i can get installed by default
[02:03] <Garcher> k thanks
[02:03] <coz_> prower, it is working fine .. there are cglitches it is beta'
[02:03] <Ron__> i wan to portforward to this postfix ..in another pc..from my internet pc..
[02:03] <boricua> why do i see an orange line here in irc some times under a commant
[02:03] <Ron__> how can i do that
[02:03] <Linux101> i have a test system with 300Gig of space
[02:03] <Linux101> and 4 gig Ram
[02:03] <Ron__> y i ask so many times
[02:03] <SBlade> astopy: good idea.....now i feel like a moron for not thinking about that sooner lol
[02:03] <rag> nbx909: its stop on "*Starting ACPI Services" with live amd64 iso
[02:03] <Ron__> bt i jsut cant get a reply
[02:03] <Linux101> i wanna install the biggest distro i can to play with lol
[02:04] <prower> coz_: Ahh, I see... .11 that would be
[02:04] <AkumAPRIME> My xorg.conf here: http://pastebin.ca/227018  . Im trying to get my dual monitors working. Right now I have a few probs: A)  if I boot up with the 2ndmonitor connected, it uses that as the primary, and puts a tiny res screen on my laptop. I want to boot with the screen already attached, so how do I change this. B) if I boot up, then attach the 2ndmonitor it boots my lptop at full res, but my 2ndmonitor at a Very low res,
[02:04] <AkumAPRIME> and also places the 2dmonitor to the "left" of my laptop when I want the 2ndmonitor to be to the "right" of the laptop. All help appreciated
[02:04] <SBlade> astopy: THANKS :)
[02:04] <coz_> NemesisD, atheros chipset ok hold on
[02:04] <astopy> SBlade: :)
[02:04] <cafuego> Linux101: that is 1) pointless and 2) not the same as a list of packages, as some are mutually exclusive.
[02:04] <nbx909> rag, hrm no idea ask it on the forums
[02:04] <Siph0n> coz_: im trying to get my DWL-G630 wireless adapter working now, and its not working...
[02:04] <ompaul> !tell Linux101 about components
[02:04] <NsOmNiAc> can someone suggest something similar to webmin for Ubuntu ?
[02:04] <Ron__> i think i have asked like 100 over times..
[02:04] <rag> nbx909: ok thanks
[02:04] <wastrel> Ron_:  you want to forward mail with postfix?  you want to set up your computer as a router?  we're not sure what you want
[02:04] <ompaul> Linux101, read the comment from ubotu please
[02:04] <rag> nbx909: what is version live do you use?
[02:04] <Siph0n> i tryed using the ndiswrapper, but still no luck
[02:04] <Ron__> i have already said many times
[02:04] <Ron__> ok i repeat
[02:04] <Linux101> Cafuego: I dont care of your opinions on what i wish to spend my time doing and i also dont care for your smart A$$ Remarks thanks
[02:04] <nbx909> rag, it's installed to my desktop
[02:05] <AkumAPRIME> Siph0n: Are you SURE you have your Essid and pw input perfectly?
[02:05] <rag> Please!!! problems with amd Sempron, do you know?
[02:05] <Siph0n> AkumAPRIME: yes, ive checked, and rechecked :)
[02:05] <coz_> Siph0n, hold on guy
[02:05] <Linux101> ompaul: Thank you you have been helpful :)
[02:05] <rag> nbx909: desktop version, ok
[02:05] <mngrif> how do i get a working compiler on ubuntu? the gcc package is installed, but anything's ./configure says it can't make executables
[02:05] <Ron__> i wan to open port 25 on my pc which will port forward to port 25 on another pc
[02:05] <jmichaelx> Siph0n: that card should work out of the box
[02:05] <cafuego> Linux101: Feel free to ignore me, but don't be giving me lip, I'm just trying to help you.
[02:05] <nbx909> rag, well to install i used alternate since i'm a nerd like that
[02:05] <nbx909> lol
[02:05] <Ron__> how should i do that?
[02:05] <boricua> mngrif: you need make
[02:05] <nbx909> !tell mngrif about gcc
[02:06] <Siph0n> jmichaelx: i read that, but also read that it doesnt work right out of the box, cause of a defective driver (mrv8k)
[02:06] <rag> nbx909: ok, i have a try with alternate
[02:06] <ianmacgregor> mngrif: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:06] <sharperguy> How do i get the jre plugin for FF
[02:06] <Ron__> i mean dun u all find it stupid
[02:06] <nbx909> rag, well that's a bad idea
[02:06] <mngrif> thanks all
[02:06] <Ron__> if i installed postfix on my pc..
[02:06] <rag> nbx909: bad idea?
[02:06] <Linux101> well in your attempt you come off as sounding like a jerk - so perhaps that is just how it looks - or perhaps your a jerk - either way I will still say thanks for trying
[02:06] <rag> nbx909: why'
[02:06] <rag> nbx909: ?
[02:06] <Ron__> then the port will be opened and thus i can port forward tit to another pc?
[02:06] <nbx909> if the live cd won't start then you'll just have the same problem after the reboot after installing
[02:06] <tiger> Can Anybody to help me to config POSTFIX >?!
[02:06] <Ron__> i just wan to open a port
[02:07] <jmichaelx> siphondo you know what version of dwl-g630 do you have? mine has an atheros chipset. (ver C2)
[02:07] <Ron__> that simple
[02:07] <rag> nbx909: alternate is like gentoo install or easy like kubuntu/ubuntu?
[02:07] <Ron__> y cant i get a ans?
[02:07] <wastrel> Ron_:  you don't want postfix
[02:07] <Siph0n> im version B
[02:07] <wastrel> Ron_:  how is the other computer connected to yours?  are they on the same LAN?
[02:07] <cafuego> Linux101: Yeah, fine.
[02:07] <tiger> Ron_ I think you want a PROXY SERVER
[02:07] <ompaul> Linux101, cafuego was right in his initial comment, and your comment to him was wrong - so please consider that
[02:07] <jmichaelx> Siph0n: do you know what version of dwl-g630 do you have? mine has an atheros chipset. (ver C2
[02:07] <nbx909> rag, alternate is the old text installer, like debians iirc easier then gentoo
[02:07] <Ron__> huh
[02:07] <cafuego> ompaul: never mind., dude.
[02:07] <Siph0n> jmichaelx: im version B
[02:07] <jmichaelx> ok.... your card is different than mine
[02:07] <boricua> tiger:http://howtoforge.net/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.10
[02:07] <Ron__> i just need someone to help me
[02:08] <rag> nbx909: tutorial, where is?
[02:08] <Siph0n> B1
[02:08] <tiger> boricua: thanxs :)
[02:08] <Ron__> ............
[02:08] <wastrel> Ron_:  how is the other computer connected to yours?  are they on the same LAN?
[02:08] <Siph0n> jmichaelx: yea... but do u know what chipset mine uses?
[02:08] <Linux101> I have to say he is wrong about Point 1 he made - saying that me testing a unbuntu install is pointless?
[02:08] <rag> nbx909: do you think with alternate solve my problems with amd?
[02:08] <Linux101> that was what i was talking about
[02:08] <nbx909> rag, no tutoral needed. you just go from screen to screen, it's fairly easy
[02:08] <nbx909> rag, probrably not
[02:08] <coz_> NemesisD, have you looked here? http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Linux.Wireless.drivers.802.11ag.html
[02:09] <tiger> Ron__:  is clear now ? a smtp server is all you need :)
[02:09] <Linux101> it sounded like he was trying to be a wise guy about it - but then again this is all in Text
[02:09] <AkumAPRIME> linux I Think he said that installing the biggest distro possible was pointless... regardless, you should probly just move on
[02:09] <leakd>  n8
[02:09] <wastrel> Ron__:  how is the other computer connected to yours?  are they on the same LAN?
[02:09] <rag> nbx909: ok, by other hand, is possible disable acpi on bios, or something? any idea please...
[02:09] <jmichaelx> Siph0n: well if it uses the driver you mentioned, it would be a marvell
[02:09] <Ron__> yes they are on the same lan
[02:09] <cafuego> Linux101: No, installing *all* packages. Go have a google for 'knapsack problem' and you'll see what I mean <heh>
[02:09] <Ron__> wastrel
[02:09] <Ron__> can i private msg u ?
[02:09] <nbx909> rag, i believe you can in the bois but idk
[02:09] <NemesisD> coz_, i sure havent, im using the default windows drivers from dlink
[02:09] <rag> nbx909, what do you need here? i help you if possible for me
[02:09] <wastrel> no
[02:09] <loki505> i got this error message
[02:09] <Siph0n> well im not sure, cause none of the forum posts mention the DWL-G630 B1 version.... so no clue
[02:09] <loki505> E: mldonkey-server: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[02:10] <rag> nbx909: what?
[02:10] <flodine> can someone help me edgy keeps asking for passwords when unzipping a rar file i dont understand
[02:10] <loki505> E: mldonkey-server: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[02:10] <wastrel> Ron__:  is the other computer connected to the internet?
[02:10] <Ron__> I JUST WANT TO OPEN PORT 25
[02:10] <loki505> E: mldonkey-server: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[02:10] <rag> nbx909: ok , on bios, but how to?
[02:10] <Linux101> well i asked about a Single install of Ubuntu that has all the packs it can bundled in as default - to ensure that No packs cause issues with eachother -- i didnt plan on installing ubuntu as a base and then loading all the packs i could into it
[02:10] <Linux101> that would be pointless lol and break things
[02:10] <Ron__> yes the other com is connected to the internet ..using nat
[02:10] <nbx909> rag, i don't know (idk) how to do that
[02:10] <nbx909> try google
[02:10] <coz_> NemesisD, check that site out and tyr to google more with the name of your cars, and either ubuntu or linux ingeneral
[02:10] <wastrel> Ron__:  your computer is providing the NAT?
[02:10] <cafuego> Linux101: .. which is what I said ;-)
[02:10] <loki505> E: mldonkey-server: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[02:10] <rag> nbx909: ok, how many version of kubuntu exists for amd?
[02:10] <loki505> can anybody help me out
[02:11] <loki505> please
[02:11] <cafuego> Linux101: A normal base install of Dapper is ~ 2GB and will install just fine.
[02:11] <rag> nbx909: ok, how many version of ubuntu exists for amd?
[02:11] <nbx909> rag, alternate and desktop
[02:11] <Linux101> right but i thought u were saying that - the idea of installing ubuntu  on my test system was pointless
[02:11] <NemesisD> coz_, been bsaically doing that for the past few days, i have all the drivers loaded in ndiswrapper and working but wlan0 is nowhere to be found
[02:11] <Kuberr> is the largest resolution for ubuntu 1024x768?
[02:11] <nbx909> Kuberr, no it's the defult you can reconfigure xorg for higher
[02:11] <clem> Kuberr: no :)
[02:11] <Linux101> i was thinking to myself this is a good way to promote a linux distro lol tell people its pointless eh
[02:11] <nbx909> !xorg
[02:11] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:11] <rag> nbx909: other possibility, disable acpi on live start boot menu
[02:11] <coz_> NemesisD, they are out there, and you will find them.. unfortunately , this is somethiems the case with these cards, as well as other hardware, you have to research first
[02:11] <AkumAPRIME> what command opens a new X?
[02:12] <rag> nbx909: do you know?
[02:12] <cafuego> Linux101: Based on what you said I thought you were going to try and install as many of the 25,000 available packages as possible.
[02:12] <clem> AkumAPRIME: startx
[02:12] <ompaul> Linux101, your offtopic, please take conversations to #ubuntu-offtopic or leave them out thanks
[02:12] <Linux101> LOL Lord No
[02:12] <gypo> Anybody, how do i view/edit a .conf file?
[02:12] <Linux101> talk about a broken linux install
[02:12] <cafuego> Linux101: Anyway, obviously  a misunderstanding.
[02:12] <Ron__> yes correct
[02:12] <rag> how to disable ACPI on boot menu of kubuntu installation
[02:12] <rag> ?
[02:12] <diepruis> @rag noacpi?
[02:12] <AkumAPRIME> clem: that opens a new one, right? so I can sn test and switch back an forth?
[02:12] <Ron__> ok how about i rephrase my question
[02:12] <coz_> gypo, in terminal sudo gedit then the location of the file
[02:12] <Linux101> lol on both ends i see
[02:12] <rag> gypo: vi file.conf or nano -w file.conf
[02:12] <gypo> ok
[02:12] <Ron__> to open a port..i need to have a service listening to that port izzit?
[02:12] <boricua> tiger:to go directly yto postfix http://howtoforge.net/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.10_p5
[02:12] <coz_> Linux101, both ends??
[02:13] <deadhobo> What is the maximum resolution for the nvidia driver?
[02:13] <clem> AkumAPRIME: hmm.. no.  Edgy isn't really stable yet.
[02:13] <rag> diepruis: please say me all , with noacpi , ok it is song for me
[02:13] <rag> diepruis: familiar
[02:13] <Ron__> there is no way i can just open a port without a service listening on it?
[02:13] <Siph0n> jmichaelx: just a real quick question, if my card is showing up when i click on the Networking icon, and i can activate it, and the Link button on my card is lit... what does that mean is wrong? :)
[02:13] <clem> AkumAPRIME: In gnome there is an option switch use though isn't there ?
[02:13] <rag> diepruis: are you sure?
[02:13] <Ron__> i just states using ubuntu
[02:13] <diepruis> @rag could you rephrase that I didn't understand
[02:13] <wastrel> Ron__:  yes, you need to port forward port 25, you don't need to set up a mail server
[02:13] <Linux101> hrm - i will download dapper and read over its list while doing so then
[02:13] <AkumAPRIME> idk, there was a command, brb
[02:13] <Ron__> is there a veri diffcult question to ans
[02:13] <cafuego> Ron__: What would be the point?
[02:13] <tiger> boricua: the page didntt help me :(
[02:13] <wastrel> Ron__:  you can use iptables or firestarter(i think) to forward ports
[02:14] <boricua> why
[02:14] <cafuego> Linux101: packages.ubuntu.com should give you a list I think
[02:14] <AkumAPRIME> Ron_  yesish
[02:14] <Ron__> ?ya i knoe
[02:14] <AkumAPRIME> My xorg.conf here: http://pastebin.ca/227018  . Im trying to get my dual monitors working. Right now I have a few probs: A)  if I boot up with the 2ndmonitor connected, it uses that as the primary, and puts a tiny res screen on my laptop. I want to boot with the screen already attached, so how do I change this. B) if I boot up, then attach the 2ndmonitor it boots my lptop at full res, but my 2ndmonitor at a Very low res,
 and also places the 2dmonitor to the "left" of my laptop when I want the 2ndmonitor to be to the "right" of the laptop. All help appreciated
[02:14] <Linux101> yea im there now reading
[02:14] <tiger> boricua: I cant see proxy config
[02:14] <tiger> .... there
[02:14] <Ron__> what i am trying to said is that
[02:14] <rag> diepruis: ok i have problems with AMD Sempron, when live starting , its stops on "Starting ACPI Services..."
[02:14] <Ron__> i dun wan to install postfix on the pc..just to have the port 25 open
[02:14] <Ron__> does anyone kneoe wat am i toking about
[02:15] <diepruis> @rag ahh ok
[02:15] <Ron__> i just wan to open a port
[02:15] <rag> diepruis: are you sure with noacpi only?
[02:15] <Ron__> wah..i feel like crying man
[02:15] <Linux101> LOL Dapper is pretty loaded
[02:15] <diepruis> @rag I think so, why not working?
[02:15] <ompaul> Ron__, your software opens the ports it needs
[02:15] <bob4444> Hey guys is there a "run" program in ubuntu like there is in windows?
[02:15] <Linux101> Does ubuntu have good USB Support on Clean installs?
[02:15] <Linux101> Keyboard and Mouse
[02:15] <diepruis> @rag is the option not working?
[02:15] <nbx909> Linux101, yes
[02:15] <akappa> groan
[02:15] <Linux101> ah Sweet
[02:15] <rag> diepruis, my customer ufff. tomorrow i like give him a solution, because they have 3 computers amd sempron
[02:15] <cafuego> Ron__: The port is not blcoked byd efault, so when postfix starts, port 25 will be open.
[02:15] <wastrel> Ron__:  you don't want to open the port, you want to forward the port.  ask the right question and you'll get a better router
[02:15] <Ron__> ya
[02:15] <Linux101> Gentoo and CentOS are Picky on USB
[02:15] <tiger> Ron__:  U dont;t listen me......
[02:15] <wastrel> cafuego:  he wants to forward pport 25 to a NAT'ed machine
[02:16] <clem> bob4444: Alt + F2 I thinh
[02:16] <clem> bob4444: Alt + F2 I think
[02:16] <Ron__> yes correct
[02:16] <cafuego> wastrel: Ah, joy...
[02:16] <rag> diepruis: noacpi i dont try yet, but tomorros
[02:16] <diepruis> @rag and they won't boot?
[02:16] <Ron__> watrel ..u understand wat am i toking about
[02:16] <rag> diepruis: noacpi i dont try yet, but tomorrow
[02:16] <bob4444> clem: ok ill try that
[02:16] <Ron__> finally
[02:16] <wastrel> Ron__:  yes but i don't know how to do it :]   iptables
[02:16] <cafuego> Ron__: That's easy, all you need is a firewall rule in the 'nat' table.
[02:16] <gypo> why doesnt gedit or edit work for me?
[02:16] <nbx909> bob4444, when in gnome what clem said workds
[02:16] <nbx909> works*
[02:16] <diepruis> @rag ahhh... I believe that'll do it, unless the problem's not with ACPI
[02:16] <ompaul> Ron__, get the manual for the firewall and use that to help you
[02:16] <Ron__> bt wat is that command?
[02:16] <cafuego> Ron__: There is complete documentation in /usr/share/doc/iptables/html
[02:16] <rag> diepruis: no, no boot, computers with AMD sempron stop on "Starting ACPI services..."
[02:16] <Ron__> hmm..
[02:16] <clem> nbx909: and in KDE :)
[02:16] <bob4444> nbx909: cool
[02:17] <diepruis> @rag you cann also try noapic and / or nolapic
[02:17] <nbx909> i use gnome
[02:17] <nbx909> lol
[02:17] <Ron__> haizz
[02:17] <tiger> PsZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
[02:17] <Ron__> alrite ..
[02:17] <tiger> Snif
[02:17] <clem> I use KDE, but I'm thinking of switching... to Gnome.
[02:17] <cafuego> Ron__: But to start off: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i <external interface> -p tcp --dport -j DNAT --to-destination <ip of postfix server>
[02:17] <cafuego> GRRR!!!!
[02:17] <rag> diepruis: yeah? how to, i dont understand difference between noapic and nolapic
[02:17] <mattb> anyone else having problems using xen on amd64 with edgy?
[02:17] <tiger> NOBODY can help me with postfix ?!!!!
[02:17] <mattb> where problems == xen locks up or reboots when it tries to load the dom0 kernel
[02:18] <Linux101> well downloading Ubuntu 6.06.1 Dapper Drake  -- who uses that in here currently?
[02:18] <Alethes> nobody that knows Edgy Eft is out
[02:18] <Alethes> :D
[02:18] <diepruis> @rag they're just different options, they've worked for me in the past when I have problems booting
[02:18] <clem> tiger: state your problem..
[02:18] <cafuego> Linux101: I use it on a few machines.
[02:18] <tiger> NOBODY can help me with postfix ?!!!! I could in Windows..........but here I dont understand too much
[02:18] <Linux101> eh i was told Edgy Eft is not as Stable
[02:18] <ProN00b> zomg, ubuntu begins to loose its edge
[02:18] <rag> diepruis: ok i try noacpi tomorrow, ok noapic and nolapic
[02:18] <NemesisD> why doesnt anyone host ANYTHING anymore
[02:18] <Alethes> I haven't had any probs at all with edgy
[02:18] <NemesisD> friggn mirrors
[02:18] <diepruis> @rag try noapic first tho
[02:19] <Linux101> maybe ill try Edgy And Dapper then
[02:19] <cafuego> Alethes: I have. Lots.
[02:19] <Alethes> really? like what?
[02:19] <clem> Linux101: there's a few pb with it alright..
[02:19] <rag> diepruis: ok, because, other thing?
[02:19] <deadhobo> Wow, I just entered console and my laptop shut off... :?
[02:19] <Linux101> Cafuego: with what - hardware, Software, Package issues?
[02:19] <ompaul> Linux101, I have said that this is not a chat channel please stick strictly to questions where you get support or give support, general quizzes and opinion are not for here - It is too busy thanks
[02:19] <diepruis> @rag yeah
[02:19] <rag> diepruis: do you have a sempron?
[02:19] <diepruis> @rag nope
[02:19] <riddlebox> can anyone help me with nvidia driver problems?
[02:19] <Alethes> the changes are minimal as far as I can see, but the ones that are made have made my experience nicer
[02:19] <cafuego> Alethes: Not booting at all due to broken initrd, not booting due to not loading sata driver, not starting X due to modprobe.d wrapper script.
[02:19] <rag> diepruis: nope? please explain me
[02:20] <tiger> clem: I try with Evolution mail........ I say SMTP: <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS> and then.........RCPT TO <xxx.yy.zzz> failed: Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable
[02:20] <diepruis> @rag no I don't. had similiar problems on another pc and noapic worked for me
[02:20] <rag> diepruis: ok time to sleep
[02:20] <sharperguy> Does ubuntu automatically ajust the clock for daylight savings?
[02:20] <diepruis> @rag bye
[02:20] <cafuego> Alethes: Now I can fix that stuff via an old kernel and manually mouning /  from the initrd image...
[02:20] <clem> tiger: there is no MTA in Ubuntu, you need to install one.
[02:20] <cafuego> Alethes: But I don't see a new user doing that.
[02:20] <diepruis> @sharperguy I think it depends on your timezone
[02:20] <Alethes> cafuego:  true
[02:20] <tiger> clem:MTA ?!!!
[02:20] <Siph0n> just a real quick question, if my card is showing up when i click on the Networking icon, and i can activate it, and the Link button on my card is lit... what does that mean is wrong? :)
[02:20] <Linux101> so i think dapper first then lol
[02:20] <flodine> can someone help please
[02:20] <tiger> clem: what are you talking about ?!!
[02:21] <clem> tiger: you can't use localhost as your SMTP server without an MTA (mail transport agent)
[02:21] <ompaul> tiger, postfix is one sendmail is another
[02:21] <Linux101> if i can find a mirror that works
[02:21] <rag> diepruis: ok yeah , one time i use noacpi and worked for me, here i forget try it...
[02:21] <bimbim> please help me
[02:21] <cafuego> Alethes: besides, Dapper has 3year support, so it's nice stable and supported for beginners :-)
[02:21] <rag> diepruis: bye and thx for your help :)
[02:21] <tiger> clem Ive Axigen
[02:21] <__mikem> ubotu tell bimbim about ask
[02:21] <diepruis> @rag yeah that happens, no problem
[02:21] <clem> Axiwhat ?
[02:21] <Alethes> cafuego:  in all fairness, I'm a pretty good linux candidate, because my requirements are very basic and I don't use any unusual hardware
[02:21] <rag> nbx909: bye and thx for your help :)
[02:21] <tiger> clem Ive Axigen. Could be ?
[02:21] <sharperguy> im in BST at the moment, but if savings goes off, i should be at GMT
[02:21] <tiger> clem: Ive Axigen. Could be ?
[02:21] <nbx909> rag np
[02:21] <clem> tiger: I don't know Axigen...
[02:21] <Alethes> I don't play games, for example
[02:21] <wastrel> !es | tiger
[02:21] <ubotu> tiger: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:21] <bimbim> gpl for router
[02:22] <clem> tiger: There's sendmail or postfix.
[02:22] <tiger> ubotu than
[02:22] <cafuego> Alethes: Wesnoth, Frozen Bubble and Scorched3D are a must!
[02:22] <tiger> ubotu thanxs
[02:22] <ompaul> sharper rebooting takes care of it, if you are on 24/7 then leaving the box on GMT makes more sense
[02:22] <Alethes> hehe
[02:22] <ompaul> sharper from a logging perspective
[02:22] <RhiNo> Can someone PLEASE help me get my wireless card (Linksys WPC54GS Ver. 2) to work with ubuntu 6.10
[02:22] <diepruis> @RhiNo I might be able to help
[02:23] <tiger> clem: Im using postfix!!!
[02:23] <cafuego> RhiNo: does 'lspci' say it's a broadom 43xx?
[02:23] <diepruis> @RhiNo what chipset is it
[02:23] <rag> other things somebody know a project with list config file for all populars applications, list with path config files!!!
[02:23] <RhiNo> can u msg me or help in an other channel so its easier to follow
[02:23] <RhiNo> yes
[02:23] <diepruis> @rhino let cafuego help you, I don't know about that chip
[02:23] <tiger> clem:  how can I know if it is working fine ?
[02:23] <rag> config files path of main configuration of popular applications
[02:23] <clem> tiger: postfix is your MTA then. It will accept SMTP requests and carry your emails.
[02:23] <cafuego> RhiNo: Downlaod & install http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/edgy-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[02:24] <tiger> clem: I think so
[02:24] <clem> tiger: you can telnet on port 25 to see if postfix is listening
[02:24] <cafuego> RhiNo: The bcm43xx driver works for that card (I have a v1.2 of it) but you do need the binary firmware.
[02:24] <tiger> clem: how ? please
[02:24] <atlef> another happy customer, did an upgrade to day, and so far all is good
[02:24] <ComputinChuck> hello
[02:24] <flodine> i sure hate leave ubuntu but i got to get rar to unzip files please help
[02:24] <RhiNo> ok
[02:24] <clem> tiger: telnet localhost 25
[02:24] <__mikem> !rar
[02:24] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[02:24] <grndslm> what is the edgy-proposed repository used for?
[02:24] <RhiNo> cafuego can u join #RhiNo-Help
[02:24] <rag> config files paths?
[02:24] <tiger> clem: thaxks again!!!
[02:24] <gnomefreak> flodine: install unrar-free
[02:24] <Garcher> .
[02:24] <diepruis> @flodine I think there is an unrar for ubuntu
[02:24] <ComputinChuck> i'm trying to play DVDs with (g)xine and the sound is lagging behind the video
[02:24] <rag> web list for config files path?
[02:25] <rag> web lists for config files path?
[02:25] <flodine> gnomefrea i did still asking for a password
[02:25] <CharonX> Does anyone know if eclipse 3.1.1 is available in any repository? I have a plugin I need to use but its not compatable with eclipse 3.1.2!!
[02:25] <vanRijn_> so...
[02:25] <diepruis> @flodine try "sudo aptitude install unrar-free"
[02:25] <clem> CharonX: which plugin ?
[02:25] <ompaul> !info eclipse dapper
[02:25] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 100 kB, installed size 368 kB
[02:25] <vanRijn_> is it a clean upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[02:25] <vanRijn_> or not recommended?
[02:25] <CharonX> clem, clay database
[02:26] <ompaul> CharonX, you can use newer stuff it appears
[02:26] <__mikem> an ide writen completely in java. Heres an idea, next time just don't write it at all
[02:26] <jrib> vanRijn_: you can upgrade
[02:26] <cafuego> vanRijn_: it sometimes works (mine went horribly wrong)
[02:26] <ompaul> !info eclipse breezy
[02:26] <nbx909> vanRijn_, back up everything and don't count on it
[02:26] <nbx909> lol
[02:26] <ubotu> Package eclipse does not exist in breezy
[02:26] <vanRijn_> lol
[02:26] <nbx909> vanRijn_, i got lucky on my server
[02:26] <vanRijn_> excellent!!!
[02:26] <clem> CharonX: oh, ok. (I used PMD plugin for 3.1 successfully on 3.2, that's why I was asking)
[02:26] <nbx909> vanRijn_, i'm doing a clean install on my desktop in a few days
[02:26] <vanRijn_> well, I'm complicating things even more by the fact that I'm running it on a G4 powerbook
[02:26] <CharonX> I can use the clay database plugin but it will not save anything once I have built my DB
[02:27] <cafuego> vanRijn_: Wrost case scenario you'll need to fix fstab so that it used device file refs and not partition IDs.
[02:27] <atlef> i used this, gksu "update-manager -c"
[02:27] <nbx909> vanRijn_, just make sure you force all the held back packages
[02:27] <vanRijn_> might be worth it to try a suse 10.1 install first and if that doesn't work then go with a clean edgy.
[02:27] <CharonX> Null pointer
[02:27] <NemesisD> can anyone help me with ndiswrapper and my usb network adapter not showing up?
[02:27] <CharonX> !info eclipse breezy
[02:27] <ubotu> Package eclipse does not exist in breezy
[02:27] <foo> Does a dist upgrade work from ubuntu 6.06 to 6.10 ? Anyone had success?
[02:27] <CharonX> !info eclipse dapper
[02:27] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 100 kB, installed size 368 kB
[02:27] <nbx909> !info xserver-xorg edgy
[02:27] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 164 kB, installed size 584 kB
[02:28] <aSt3raL> any know if there are any amd64 beryl repositories?
[02:28] <ompaul> foo, I did, however do not do it if you added things from non offical sources
[02:28] <aSt3raL> or do i have to compile from source?
[02:28] <grndslm> what is the edgy-proposed repository used for?
[02:28] <NemesisD> my USB network adaptper isn't showing up anywhere but ndiswrapper is showing it as present and the drivers installed
[02:28] <atlef> ompaul : what sources?
[02:28] <dhn_> is it possible to upgrade to Edgy from CD?
[02:29] <cafuego> grndslm: probably stuff that is being proposed for inclusion into edgy
[02:29] <ompaul> atlef, anywhere that was not an offical ubuntu repo
[02:29] <aSt3raL> dhn_: see topic
[02:29] <ompaul> !nickspam
[02:29] <ubotu> changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu can get you removed - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users, the same goes for using noisy away see (/msg ubotu away) for more details "/away reason" sets your client away silently, thanks
[02:29] <Wheelybin> hello there. Is it possible to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10?
[02:29] <atlef> ok
[02:29] <aSt3raL> secret901: yes
[02:29] <cafuego> Wheelybin: sometimes
[02:29] <Wheelybin> IE: without reinstalling from the cd
[02:29] <aSt3raL> any know if there are any amd64 beryl repositories?
[02:29] <secret901> cafuego: I'm trying to install from CD, but getting errors about not being able to execute the shell file
[02:30] <grndslm> cafuego, i thought that the repository was essentially locked down in terms of features....
[02:30] <NemesisD> anyone? ive been screwing around with this for two days and i just need some help
[02:30] <clem> Wheelybin: theorically yes, it should be.
[02:30] <ompaul> !repeat
[02:30] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:30] <cafuego> grndslm: yup
[02:30] <grndslm> so why an edgy-proposed repos?
[02:30] <rick_h> how goes, anyone give me a hint as to how to get gnome to start with with ssh-agent so that I can enter my ssh key passkey on boot?
[02:30] <rick_h> I have ssh-askpass-gnome installed
[02:30] <Wheelybin> clem: Is there a howto on upgrading, like there's a howto from breezy to dapper?
[02:30] <flodine> diepruis still asking me for a password
[02:30] <grndslm> cafuego, i prolly shouldn't add it to my list then, eh?
[02:31] <clem> Wheelybin: yes, the Release Notes
[02:31] <secret901> I typed in "gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade" to upgrade to Edgy with the CD but I don't get any confirmation message
[02:31] <gnomefreak> there isnt an edgy-proposed repo yet if there even will be
[02:31] <cafuego> grndslm: well, it probably won't hurt.
[02:31] <atlef> ompaul : like a
[02:31] <Wheelybin> oh! I found it. It's in the topic title. It's easy when you know where to look. Thankyou!
[02:31] <flodine> diepruis never ever seen this before asking for passwords
[02:32] <rixth> Let me get this straight, Edgy inlcudes qt4-designer, but not the version of uic for qt4. That's.... stupid?
[02:32] <grndslm> gnomefreak, it's most definitely on the ubuntuguide, and i've seen it mentioned other places as well
[02:32] <michael__> how do I access my session preferences from failsafe terminal?
[02:32] <atlef> ompaul : like a***matix sources?
[02:32] <hoov> Does anyone know, can I use a desktop cd on an upgrade as well, or must I have an alternate cd?
[02:32] <gnomefreak> grndslm: seeing as edgy was released 3 days ago and all repos have a freeze on them if there is one it doesnt have packages in it
[02:32] <atlef> hoov : it says alternate
[02:32] <ompaul> atlef, that would be one set - you have no guarntee that they will work
[02:33] <gnomefreak> grndslm: ubuntuguide.org isnt official anyway ;)
[02:33] <secret901> how can I upgrade to Edgy with the install CD?
[02:33] <ompaul> atlef, the upgrade is from ubuntu to ubuntu - not ubuntu+random stuff to ubuntu
[02:33] <hoov> I know, but I was just wondering
[02:33] <gnomefreak> !upgrade | secret901
[02:33] <ubotu> secret901: For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[02:33] <grndslm> gnomefreak, that's what i figured...just wanted to make it official
[02:33] <variant> River: how did you get on?#
[02:33] <atlef> ompaul : it did work here, but nice to know.
[02:33] <concept10> am I the only that cant start xmms or beep since upgrading ?
[02:33] <hoov> because I upgraded with a desktop cd to dapper
[02:34] <gnomefreak> hoov: you mean fresh install (you cant upgrade with desktop cd)
[02:34] <JethroDawnfine> hello, everybody... could someone help me with my apt-get? I stopped working and I can't find the problem :(
[02:34] <Bacon5o> ok variant...
[02:34] <secret901> what's the "edgy alternate install cd"?  I have the normal install cd, would that work?
[02:34] <jrib> JethroDawnfine: what does it do
[02:34] <Bacon5o> Now I'm really mad =/
[02:35] <hoov> nope, I did an upgrade from within synaptic when dapper came out.  unless I am messing up my terminology here
[02:35] <Bacon5o> great now ubuntu totally !@#$ed my harddrive
[02:35] <clem> JethroDawnfine: try sudo apt-get update and tell us if you get any error message.
[02:35] <secret901> where can I get the "edgy alternate install cd"?
[02:36] <coz_> Bacon5o, how so guy
[02:36] <Bacon5o> someone help me out here
[02:36] <Bacon5o> coz
[02:36] <clem> secret901: ubuntu.com/download
[02:36] <Bacon5o> gee, how can I explain this
[02:36] <michael__> how do I access my session preferences from failsafe terminal?
[02:36] <coz_> Bacon5o, do your best
[02:36] <Bacon5o> ok, coz, I have a secondary slave harddrive with two partitions
[02:36] <JethroDawnfine> I was trying to install samba... but then I tried apt-get update first
[02:36] <Bacon5o> ok?
[02:36] <secret901> is it possible to upgrade with the Desktop CD?
[02:36] <coz_> Bacon5o, ok
[02:36] <jrib> JethroDawnfine: pastebin the output you get
[02:36] <Bacon5o> the labels on these two partitions are F & G
[02:36] <DIL> hey all
[02:37] <coz_> Bacon5o, ok
[02:37] <benkong2> I did the update-manager -c -d from dapper to edgy and now my gnome-theme-manager is crashing on startup every time. Also my windows nhave no close,minimise etc. icons. It's like the title bar is missing any thoughts?
[02:37] <ryanakca> how do I resize an image with "convert"?    convert -resize 2048x1024!/home/ryan/.beryl/skydomes/SpaceC.png  ?
[02:37] <nalioth> Bacon5o: your attitude isn't helping your cause  :)
[02:37] <gnomefreak> benkong2: no -d
[02:37] <JethroDawnfine> jrib, where can I paste it?
[02:37] <nalioth> ryanakca: i use 'mogrify'
[02:37] <jrib> !paste | JethroDawnfine
[02:37] <ubotu> JethroDawnfine: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:37] <benkong2> gnomefreak: ah I took it from the ubuntu pages... wait a sec.
[02:37] <Bacon5o> when I went on to create freespace (using unbuntu's partition program) I separated the F partition by 10gb to be used by unbuntu
[02:37] <gnomefreak> benkong2: but the -d wouldnt cause that
[02:37] <DIL> tried ubuntu on my doze box but cant see docs in "my Folder"
[02:37] <coz_> Bacon5o, ok
[02:37] <Bacon5o> So basically I have 3 viable partitions
[02:38] <jrib> ryanakca: try the imagemagick webiste, they have examples for all the commands
[02:38] <Bacon5o> F/G/3rd partition
[02:38] <coz_> Bacon5o, OK
[02:38] <ryanakca> nalioth: with what options
[02:38] <Bacon5o> I cant even see my F drive
[02:38] <ryanakca> jrib: that's what I'm looking at
[02:38] <JethroDawnfine> jrib, ubotu, here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28976/
[02:38] <Bacon5o> I cant see the unbuntu partition
[02:38] <Bacon5o> but I can see my G:\
[02:38] <gnomefreak> JethroDawnfine: ubotu is a bot
[02:38] <eimajenthat> Is freecontrib.org down?  I don't seem to be able to access it.
[02:38] <nalioth> ryanakca: mogrify -resize X x Y Target.jpg    the target will be resized, so back up any originals
[02:38] <clem> Bacon5o: you mean you can't see your Ubuntu partition in Windows ???
[02:38] <nalioth> eimajenthat: it is.
[02:38] <JethroDawnfine> oops, hehehe
[02:38] <Bacon5o> clem: that would be correct
[02:39] <clem> Bacon5o: did you expect to ?
[02:39] <ryanakca> nalioth: kk, ty
[02:39] <Bacon5o> clem, thats not the thing
[02:39] <coz_> Bacon5o, mm you wont see it in windows
[02:39] <Bacon5o> the partition that I partitioned cannot be seen either
[02:39] <__mikem> its obvious Bacon5o is new to linux based on the fact that he calls drives by [a-z] :\
[02:39] <clem> Bacon5o: the filesystem used by Ubuntu is ext3, Windows only knows how to read FAT and NTFS.
[02:39] <DIL> u cannot see patition from winows
[02:39] <Bacon5o> mikem -> my first ever experience to linux
[02:39] <coz_> thank you clem
[02:39] <Bacon5o> ok clem here's the delimma
[02:39] <clem> Bacon5o: plus, it doesn't see "non-windows" types.
[02:39] <cafuego> Bacon5o: if you open the Admin Tools > Disk manager, does it show 3 partitions on that disk?
[02:40] <secret901> is it possible to upgrade to Edgy using a desktip install CD?
[02:40] <cafuego> Bacon5o: ... irrespective of whaether they have letters assigned...
[02:40] <Bacon5o> the "F" partition was originally in NTFS, and I took 10gb of that "F" drive for the ext3...why cant I see the rest of my F drive that was NTFS?
[02:40] <loki505> my screensaver is choppy when it comes on
[02:40] <loki505> can anybody help me out please
[02:40] <benkong2> the command I used from the ubuntu forums is this.  sudo update-manager -c -d was this incorrect?
[02:40] <DIL> hey guys why cant i see the documents in My Documents.  I can see them form Adiministartion but cant access them
[02:40] <jrib> JethroDawnfine: can you load http://security.ubuntu.com in your browser?
[02:40] <River> variant, could not locate a live CD so downloading 6.10 now
[02:41] <rbil> ryanakca: you might find this script I wrote helpful? http://www.w-3productions.com/cvcs/weblog/archives/2005/02/linux_tip_quick_1.html
[02:41] <clem> Bacon5o: letters can move, they do not accurately define a partition....
[02:41] <michael__> how do I access my session preferences from failsafe terminal?
[02:41] <sanguine> i know there's a tool that allows windows to copy files from a ext2 partition
[02:41] <JethroDawnfine> jrib, got it... I can see an ubuntu folder
[02:41] <coolpaul900> I am having a problem with booting up with the new image
[02:41] <Bacon5o> Well ok, atleast let me get on ubuntu first
[02:41] <Bacon5o> I have it properly installed
[02:42] <seamus7> Is Java Update 9 relatively new?
[02:42] <__mikem> on ext3 filesystems can take up multiple physical volumes
[02:42] <cafuego> Bacon5o: That would be good, ubuntu 8can* see all your partitions properly if they're there.
[02:42] <gypo> which comand line ftp server is the best for beginners?
[02:42] <jrib> JethroDawnfine: try apt-get update again, still getting 401?
[02:42] <clem> Bacon5o: anyhow, if that helps, FAT32 is seen by both Linux and Windows.
[02:42] <Bacon5o> But I also cannot access the internet through ubuntu, even when I have a physical connection (not WIFI)
[02:42] <andresmujica> Bacon5o: are you on windows at this point?
[02:42] <rbil> ryanakca: here's one that will just do one image, not the whole directory like the last script ... http://www.w-3productions.com/cvcs/weblog/archives/2005/02/linux_tip_quick.html
[02:42] <jrib> michael__: what session preferences do you mean?
[02:43] <Bacon5o> andres: yes
[02:43] <JethroDawnfine> jrib, tried again... still the same
[02:43] <jrib> JethroDawnfine: does synaptic let you "reload"?
[02:43] <michael__> jrib, for what loads when i log in
[02:43] <gypo>  which comand line ftp server is the best for beginners?
[02:43] <JethroDawnfine> jrib, it seems like it doesn't even try to connect... the list of errors scroll fast on my screan
[02:43] <jrib> !ftp > gypo
[02:43] <River> variant: how do I register with NickServe ?
[02:43] <JethroDawnfine> jrib, let me try reloading synaptic
[02:43] <grndslm> coolpaul900, are you sure you didn't just drop the ISO onto a data cd, instead of burning it as ISO images are supposed to be written to cds?
[02:43] <ompaul> !register > River
[02:43] <gypo> jrib whats that?
[02:44] <gypo> !ftp
[02:44] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[02:44] <lorca_> what are u doing men
[02:44] <ompaul> River, read the message from ubotu
[02:44] <ryanakca> rbil: kk, ty
[02:44] <River> ompaul: thanks
[02:44] <seamus7> In which directory would Firefox 2 be installed ... I need to configure my JavaRE Update 9 and I need to link to it.
[02:44] <coolpaul900> ya I am sure I did becuase I updated from 6.06
[02:44] <JethroDawnfine> jrib, no, I get the same error with synaptic
[02:44] <gypo>  which comand line ftp server is the best for beginners?--looking for personal prefferences
[02:44] <clem> seamus7: which firefox, locate firefox
[02:44] <jrib> michael__: ~/.gnome2/session
[02:44] <michael__> thanks
[02:45] <coolpaul900> ohh I think you don't understand what I am saying
[02:45] <jrib> JethroDawnfine: weird, I don't know what's going on
[02:45] <Admiral_Chicago> seamus7: i would use ~/.mozilla
[02:45] <seamus7> clem: firefox2 ... swiftfox2
[02:45] <clem> seamus7: no no :) I mean, use the commands which and locate :)
[02:45] <Zyfo> Where are you "supposed" to put custom installed games apps etc? usr or anywhere else?
[02:45] <Zyfo> somewhere*
[02:45] <wastrel> Zyfo:  /usr/local
[02:46] <andresmujica> bacon: would it be possible to start from the livecd/installer for ubuntu?  so you can give us some info about your partitions?
[02:46] <seamus7> clem: oh lol
[02:46] <clem> seamus7: I don't have firefox.... so I can only tell you how to find it on your box.
[02:46] <wastrel> Zyfo:  or /opt
[02:46] <lorca_> hi girl
[02:46] <manawyddan> hi, guys!
[02:46] <seamus7> admiral_chicago: ok thx
[02:46] <wastrel> Zyfo:  check out the filesystem heirarchy standard
[02:46] <jrib> gypo: try proftpd I guess
[02:46] <DIL> can anyone help me, itried ubuntu for 1sr time - i put it my box that has windows but when i run Ubuntu i cant see my data files on my windows disk
[02:46] <Zyfo> where can I find that wastrel ?
[02:46] <michael__> jrib, I don't have that file
[02:46] <grndslm> coolpaul900, well, what are you saying then?
[02:46] <manawyddan> i'm needing a bit of info.
[02:46] <wastrel> s/heirarchy/hierarchy/
[02:47] <Luxurious> Is it normal for my Ubuntu computer to show the Ubuntu logo and an empty progress bar forever after I ask it to shut down.
[02:47] <wastrel> Zyfo:  google probably knows.  Linux FHS
[02:47] <jrib> michael__: are you checking in ~ of your normal user?
[02:47] <Zyfo> wastrel, ty :)
[02:47] <coolpaul900> when I am booting up and I chose one like ubuntu, kernal 2.6.17-10-386 that is the one I am having problems with
[02:47] <michael__> jrib, yep
[02:47] <jrib> michael__: edgy?
[02:47] <grndslm> DIL, you might need to mount your drive
[02:47] <michael__> yea
[02:47] <JethroDawnfine> jrib, is there any place on ubuntu where I can set up a gateway especially for apt-get? 'Cause it sounds like if apt wasn't even finding network connection to me
[02:47] <michael__> I'm in failsafe term
[02:47] <coolpaul900> I don't have a problem with the old one
[02:48] <coolpaul900> kernal I mean
[02:48] <clem> JethroDawnfine: you mean a proxy ?
[02:48] <jrib> michael__: that file has my session stuff, don't know why you don't have one unless maybe you didn't setup any session stuff
[02:48] <grndslm> coolpaul900, does it give you any error messages?
[02:48] <coolpaul900> no it doesn't
[02:48] <DIL> grndslm: it shows up in administartion when i try to acces it sats i have no permission
[02:48] <michael__> jrib, what??
[02:48] <grndslm> it's just totally blank?
[02:48] <coolpaul900> it gets to savedefault
[02:48] <coolpaul900> boot
[02:48] <Bacon5o> ok
[02:48] <coolpaul900> then stops thinking
[02:48] <Bacon5o> I made it on ubuntu with internet
[02:48] <Bacon5o> I'm so exited
[02:48] <Tim90> Hey guys,can i have a link to all the art and themes for ubuntu
[02:49] <macd> art.ubuntu.com
[02:49] <clem> Bacon5o: you're in Ubuntu now ?
[02:49] <fugitive_> im using Ubuntu6.06. Im trying to install VMWARE Server on it. It is asking for C compiler and says that my PC doesnt have C compiler installed on it. But when In fact I do have "gcc" installed on my PC. How to make the VmWare know that I have gcc installed on my PC. I checked thru find / -name gcc* I can see three different versions of gcc and they are in /usr/bin/, I have typed the gcc location when Vmware was installing but still says that gcc is
[02:49] <fugitive_> not installed how come ?
[02:49] <jrib> michael__: what I mean is, as far as I know, that is the file that contains the session info
[02:49] <Bacon5o> clem: I am on Ubuntu
[02:49] <JethroDawnfine> clem, not a proxy... see, to be connected with my dsl provider, I need to specify a list of dns servers for my eth0 or I can't navigate or use any program...
[02:49] <DIL> grnslm: no the files are there but i cant access them
[02:49] <manawyddan> i've been trying to use the gl(3d) screensavers, but so far no luck, i'm using a ATI Radeon 7500 and the system is the AMD64 version of Ubuntu. Can someone help me, or point the right direction to solve this?
[02:49] <michael__> jrib, aight
[02:49] <Tim90> What you so exited about
[02:49] <JethroDawnfine> I did that, but apt-get is the only one that's not working
[02:49] <grndslm> coolpaul, i'd recommend a fresh install from cd if your /home dir is on a separate partition, like it's supposed to be
[02:49] <jrib> fugitive_: install build-essential
[02:49] <macd> fugitive_, apt-get install build-essentail
[02:49] <Bacon5o> Clem, how was it that I could locate the partitions?
[02:49] <macd> err essential*
[02:50] <clem> Bacon5o: open a terminal and type : sudo fdisk -l
[02:50] <coolpaul900> should i reninstall that kernal?
[02:50] <Bacon5o> ok
[02:50] <coolpaul900> I can still boot up into ubuntu with the old one
[02:50] <fugitive_> jrib: macd: Im getting apt-get install build-essentail
[02:50] <fugitive_> Reading package lists... Done
[02:50] <fugitive_> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:50] <fugitive_> E: Couldn't find package build-essentail
[02:50] <__mikem> clem be sure to give him detailed instructions on using fdisk, you can really f*** things up if you make one wrong move with fdisk
[02:51] <michael__> jrib, I guess the things are loading from ~/.config/autostart
[02:51] <jrib> fugitive_: spell it correctly :)
[02:51] <slinky_> hello, is there any benefit to installing the kubuntu desktop in ubuntu?
[02:51] <fugitive_> oops sorry
[02:51] <clem> __mikem: -l... only listing them so far.
[02:51] <Bacon5o> hmm clem
[02:51] <Bacon5o> interesting
[02:51] <coz_> slinky_, no
[02:51] <Luxurious> Ubuntu Edgy: Is it normal that my computer shows the Ubuntu logo and and empty progress bar and hangs (doesn't shut down) after commanding it to shut down? (restart works fine)
[02:51] <macd> fugitive_, yeah build-essential
[02:51] <macd> I typod
[02:51] <fugitive_> jrib: thank you very much it is installing
[02:51] <MarcN> slinky_: yeah, gives you access to kde applications
[02:51] <fugitive_> thank you macd:
[02:51] <D_Wyatt> how do i reinstall grub?
[02:52] <grndslm> coolpaul900, i don't get many kernel errors...sorry...but a fresh install would prolly do your system some good if your /home dir is on a separate partition
[02:52] <ramen> What do I need to install Amarok, if I have Ubuntu?
[02:52] <D_Wyatt> i overwrote the mbr accedently lol
[02:52] <ramen> And how do i install it?
[02:52] <coz_> Luxurious, no that is not normal but then it may also be your hardware, i would have to se that one
[02:52] <macd> ramen, apt-get install amarok
[02:52] <apokryphos> ramen: one command
[02:52] <Luxurious> coz_: What part of hardware do you suspect is responsible for this?
[02:52] <Bacon5o> -dev/hdb6            4794        4863      562212   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[02:52] <fugitive_> macd: jrib: that was one of the quickest answer I got from IRC. Great work guys.Thx once again
[02:52] <ramen> i don't need any kde libraries or anything?
[02:52] <soyunperdedor> ramen:  sudo apt...   what macd just said,
[02:52] <macd> fugitive_, np.
[02:52] <slinky_> do the KDE applications offer anything more then ubuntu and can you run any KDE application usung only ubuntu?
[02:53] <soyunperdedor> ramen: No.  It'll be fine.
[02:53] <D_Wyatt> how do i reintall grub bootloader using the live cd?
[02:53] <ramen> Thanks.
[02:53] <macd> slinky_, yes they will instlal the kdelibs.
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> slinky_: Kubuntu is the branch of ubuntu that uses KDE
[02:53] <River> variant: I have the live CD, how do I boot to command prompt now ?
[02:53] <clem> Bacon5o: are you familiar with device names in Linux ?
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> and you can run some apps on GNOME in KDE and vice versa
[02:53] <slinky_> will i be able to switch desktops without rebooting
[02:53] <Bacon5o> clem, I am uneducated, I probably shouldn't have done this...I'm such an idiot
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> River: open up a terminal
[02:53] <D_Wyatt> how do i reintall grub bootloader using the live cd?
[02:53] <coz_> Luxurious, i wouldn't know off hand, i would actually have to know yourentire set up do a oittle research and see if any particular part of the system may be hanging.. my system has scsi drives and the boot pocess takeslonger than for most people because of the scsi controller in my system
[02:53] <MarcN> slinky_: KDE is a set of applications, Gnome is another set of applications, a lot of overlap in functionality, some people prefer one over the other.  I usually run gnome, but like the k3b cd burning tool of KDE.
[02:54] <macd> slinky_, if you install kde, but if you just want to run kjde apps in gnome you can also do that
[02:54] <__mikem> slinky_ kde has nothing to do with the actual linux kernel, its just a gui front end.
[02:54] <Tim90> art.ubuntu.com is not very terminal ,any one have any more links
[02:54] <khaije1> hi all, according to my reading edgy is supposed to be 'xen-ready'. does this mean  it is dom0 ready, domU ready, or both? anyone know?
[02:54] <clem> Bacon5o: no no, it's good, that's how you learn.
[02:54] <Admiral_Chicago> Tim90: what are you trying to find?
[02:54] <Luxurious> coz_: It's a clean install, and I've set it up three times always with this same problem.
[02:54] <clem> Bacon5o: all devices are there in /dev/
[02:54] <macd> khaije1, dom0, and you must use the xen-kernel-image
[02:54] <D_Wyatt> how do i reintall grub bootloader using the live cd?
[02:54] <clem> Bacon5o: IDE hard drives are hd devices.
[02:54] <River> admiral_chicago: I am at the live CD boot menu and have start options only, which do I take ?
[02:54] <Bacon5o> correct
[02:54] <coz_> Luxurious, well in my opinion, that points to hardware issues like mine
[02:54] <slinky_> Can i switch between GNOME and KDE without rebooting
[02:55] <macd> slinky_, yes.
[02:55] <clem> Bacon5o: and IDE CDROM as well
[02:55] <joincamp> how do i make flash use oss rather than alsa?  my audio drivers dont support alsa.
[02:55] <coz_> Luxurious, or a bad downloaded imae for the cd
[02:55] <macd> logging out of one, anhd using the session menu to login to the other.
[02:55] <crashzor> slinky_, ctrl alt + backspace
[02:55] <Tim90> last night i found a nice splash screen for ubuntu 6.10.
[02:55] <khaije1> macd: so it's apt-get-able? thats pretty rocking
[02:55] <clem> Bacon5o: in a computer, there are only 2 IDE ports.
[02:55] <coz_> image
[02:55] <Bacon5o> yes
[02:55] <Tim90> Admiral_Chicago:
[02:55] <macd> crashzor, the correct way is to logout first.
[02:55] <slinky_> ok, i'll give it a try then, thank you for the information folks
[02:55] <Zyfo> at linux FHS wiki it says "read-only data" for stuff in usr/, is it still fine to have games which has got file-handling etc (FPS games with demos, configs screenshots etc)
[02:55] <clem> Bacon5o: and on each, a master and a slave device.
[02:55] <crashzor> macd,  Care it works :P
[02:55] <Admiral_Chicago> River: start installer (if it's dapper)
[02:55] <macd> and doesnt save your session settings.
[02:55] <khaije1> macd: iow edgy as domU still needs to be modded?
[02:55] <Tim90> Admiral_Chicago:i thnk the link ended with .org
[02:56] <Bacon5o> my master is 100% NTFS with Windows on it
[02:56] <Tim90> some thing like that
[02:56] <clem> Bacon5o: in Linux, those devices (if present) are hda, hdb, hdc, hdd
[02:56] <macd> khaije1, Im a lil grey in that area to be honest
[02:56] <crashzor> macd, true
[02:56] <River> admiral_chicago: it is edgy 6.10
[02:56] <Admiral_Chicago> Tim90: i have no idea what you're trying to do still
[02:56] <slinky_> Admiral_Chicago: I installed the HP 1018 Laserjet successfully, thanks for your help
[02:56] <Bacon5o> ok clem
[02:56] <Abst> Is there any way to have a computer on my network start up with a  command from my box?
[02:56] <Bacon5o> I think I understand now
[02:56] <Admiral_Chicago> you're trying to find art?
[02:56] <Tim90> i want art work Admiral_Chicago:
[02:56] <macd> Tim90, you want the ubuntu art page?
[02:56] <clem> Bacon5o: hda is master on IDE0, hdb slave on IDE0, hdc master on IDE1, and hdd slave on IDE1
[02:56] <Admiral_Chicago> River: start installer
[02:56] <macd> art.ubuntu.com
[02:56] <Bacon5o> lets focus on my hdb
[02:56] <macd> or gnome-look.org
[02:56] <khaije1> macd: still though dom0 is sorta the tricky part imho, I'd wager it does. I'll do some more reading and let you know
[02:56] <Admiral_Chicago> Tim90: well there is Kdelook.org but you probably want ubuntu art
[02:57] <Luxurious> coz_: This is a Compaq Presario.  I used to have this Compaq Deskpro which had this power button with on/off modes.  In that case Windows would tell me that it was now safe to shut down the computer.  Maybe Ubuntu is mistaking the switch type on this particular model, because prior to showing this screen it runs some progress (with an active progress bar), and the noise from the computer lowers dramatically just before this hanging image shows.
[02:57] <Admiral_Chicago> slinky_: good to hear
[02:57] <macd> great@ khaije1
[02:57] <clem> Bacon5o: then, you can have partitions for each drive... and that's the number suffixing hdb or hdc.. etc.
[02:57] <Garcher> hey does the clean install takes some time to finish, cuz im seeing just a black screen...
[02:57] <Admiral_Chicago> River: start installer
[02:57] <Admiral_Chicago> it's a live/install CD
[02:57] <macd> Luxurious, you can make the power button do whatever you want in power management.
[02:57] <Bacon5o> Yup
[02:57] <clem> Bacon5o: for instance hdb6 is the 6th partition on the slave hard-drive on IDE0.
[02:57] <slinky_> Admiral_Chicago: I will post in the forum what i did to get it to work
[02:58] <Tim90> i will have a look at that to , the one i seen was only for edgy eft and it lookes spectacular
[02:58] <Bacon5o> It seems that I have 5 partitions
[02:58] <Luxurious> macd: Interesting.  Thank you for that macd, I'll be sure to check out if there's some setting that can change this in there.
[02:58] <Tim90> Admiral_Chicago:
[02:58] <Bacon5o> 1-2-3 (skipping 4) 5-6
[02:58] <clem> Bacon5o: each partition has a type, and a filesystem.
[02:58] <aSt3raL> i started an xgl session and it looks no different that gnome.  is there a way to tell if xgl is even running?
[02:58] <Bacon5o> which I never knew I had
[02:58] <DIL> that a lot of partitions
[02:58] <Zyfo> at linux FHS wiki it says "read-only data" for stuff in usr/, is it still fine to have games which has got file-handling etc (FPS games with demos, configs screenshots etc)?
[02:58] <macd> Zyfo, you can mount /usr however you would like
[02:58] <River> variant: are you still on channel ?
[02:58] <clem> Bacon5o: ok, which hard-drive are you interested in ?
[02:59] <Bacon5o> my slave IDE0
[02:59] <Zyfo> macd, ofc, but according to the FPS praxis?
[02:59] <Tim90> Admiral_Chicago:
[02:59] <Luxurious> coz_: This doesn't particularly bother me, and I'm fine with pressing the power button, I just want to be sure that the system has definitely finished all necessary processes it needs to do before I press the button.
[02:59] <Bacon5o> It is a 80GB slave drive
[02:59] <Admiral_Chicago> Tim90: all you are saying is Admiral_Chicago: you aren't writing anything
[02:59] <manawyddan> Is there any configuration needed in Ubuntu for AMD64 to make the GL screensavers work?
[02:59] <clem> Bacon5o: on which IDE port ?
[02:59] <Bacon5o> IDE0
[02:59] <Bacon5o> my harddrives are on IDE0
[02:59] <clem> ok
[02:59] <clem> Bacon5o: so it's /dev/hdb
[02:00] <Bacon5o> correct
[02:00] <Bacon5o> I'm seeing it right now
[02:00] <jmichaelx> would anyone have an idea how to configure mplayer-plugin in firefox to play embedded .wmv video (yahoo news clips, for example) in edgy? i was able to play these videos in dapper, but since upgrading i've had no success.
[02:00] <godtvisken> How come once I updated to firefox 2, it stopped asking me if I wanted to open .rar files with fileroller, and other files with their respective programs?
[02:00] <clem> Bacon5o: "sudo fdisk -l" lists all your partitions for all drives
[02:00] <Bacon5o> yes, that is what I am seeing
[02:00] <clem> Bacon5o: "sudo fdisk -l | grep /dev/hdb" lists only those from hdb, please run that and tell me what you get.
[02:01] <Admiral_Chicago> Tim90: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=7650419d23dca9cced22bc7c4535b776&t=1940
[02:01] <Luxurious> One strange thing happened to me today... I had this USB key and was plugging it to the back of the computer, but I accidentally hit the plate  that was on the back of the compute (the one with all the ports) with the USB plug, and the computer just powered down.
[02:01] <kober> whats the difference between beryl and compiz?
[02:01] <DIL> ok who is a linux xpert that can assist please
[02:01] <Bacon5o> Ok
[02:01] <macd> kober, beryl is newer
[02:01] <Bacon5o> dev/hdb1               1        3249    26097561    7  HPFS/NTFS
[02:01] <Admiral_Chicago> kober: #ubuntu-xgl for more info
[02:01] <kitche> DIL: just ask your question someone will anwser
[02:01] <macd> the beryl-project wiki goes into more detail.
[02:01] <crashzor> how to make a screen dump in xfce4 ???
[02:01] <Bacon5o> that is my first partition
[02:01] <Luxurious> Just ask your question DIL, no individual will take on your problem unless they know what your problem is.
[02:02] <Tim90> hey guys , try http://www.gnome-look.org/
[02:02] <macd> crashzor, you can use import -o from the console
[02:02] <ramen> what is root?
[02:02] <clem> Bacon5o: ok, it's 26Go ?
[02:02] <crashzor> macd, bash: import: command not found
[02:02] <Luxurious> info root
[02:02] <macd> ohhh
[02:02] <macd> I cant believe they took that out
[02:02] <Bacon5o> if blocks = Go then yes
[02:02] <macd> crashzor, does the print screen button work?
[02:02] <macd> !root
[02:02] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:02] <crashzor> macd, no
[02:02] <macd> interesting
[02:02] <crashzor> te command screendump did even work
[02:03] <macd> google+efce+screenshot+howto
[02:03] <macd> xfce*
[02:03] <Bacon5o> dev/hdb2            4794        9729    39648420    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[02:03] <Bacon5o> this makes no sense to me clem...
[02:03] <DIL> i load Ubunto on a seperate HDD on a box that also has XP on a separtate HDD i cannot acees my data files on the xp disk
[02:03] <concept10> Do I need these packages to compile a vanilla kernel ? libqt3-headers libqt3-mt-dev
[02:03] <bob4444> anyone know how to run eciadsl-config-text in ubuntu, everytime I try it just opens terminal??
[02:03] <Bacon5o> what does "W95 Ext'd (LBA)" have to do with my slave drive?
[02:03] <fugitive_> macd: its asking for What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[02:03] <fugitive_> kernel?
[02:03] <clem> Bacon5o: yes, let's go through the info. it's called /dev/hdb1 (1st partition on slave IDE0), starts from block 1, ends with block 3249, it's 26Go, type 7 (windows NTFS partition in other words) and the filesystem which is on it is NTFS.
[02:04] <macd> fugitive_, /usr/src/linux
[02:04] <Jefe_AZ> how do I get a non-GUI login?
[02:04] <macd> but you must have linux-kernel-dev and linux-source installed
[02:04] <Bacon5o> I got it clem
[02:04] <Bacon5o> I'm with ya 100%
[02:04] <macd> then youll have to decompress the source bz2 package.
[02:04] <clem> Bacon5o: ok, it's /dev/hdb2 this time, 39Go, and it's type F. The filesystem is FAT32 :)
[02:05] <Bacon5o> Clem that doesn't make sense
[02:05] <JethroDawnfine> clem, just found my problem... it's the gateway indeed... I tried downloading something with wget and got the same 401 unauthorized error
[02:05] <Bacon5o> I dont even see this partition on Windows...
[02:05] <clem> Bacon5o: W95, LBA.. all those silly words really just mean FAT32.
[02:05] <bob4444> anyone know how to run eciadsl-config-text in ubuntu, everytime I try it just opens terminal??
[02:05] <Bacon5o> I only see a 37.5GB NTFS partition on windows
[02:05] <clem> Bacon5o: ok. don't worry.
[02:05] <fugitive_> macd: im getting the same msg. How to find from the command line where the header files r located?
[02:06] <Bacon5o> ok clem...next
[02:06] <GirlRiver> admiral_chicago: I have live CD booted and terminal window open, i now need to re-start the previously interrupted upgrade, how do I do this ?
[02:06] <macd> fugitive_ you need to install them first
[02:06] <Bacon5o> dev/hdb3   *        3250        4793    12402180   83  Linux
[02:06] <Bacon5o> I presume would be the linux ext3 filesystem
[02:06] <fugitive_> macd: do u know wat r they & how?
[02:06] <Admiral_Chicago> GirlRiver: let me get this right, you want to use the live CD on an update that failed for a computer
[02:07] <clem> Bacon5o: ok. that's probably your Ubuntu partition. Ext3 filesystem, 12Go
[02:07] <Vaske_Car> I deleted Gnome panel by mistake, how do I return it back?
[02:07] <paolob> guys, performing dist-upgrade to edgy removes xserver-xorg, and so the upgraded system doesn't run X. I'm following instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades ... Is there any trick or is it a bug?
[02:07] <Bacon5o> yup, thats how much I set aside for ubuntu
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> why can't you use the one that you were using earlier
[02:07] <macd> fugitive_, yes apt-get install linux-kernel-dev and kernel-source-2.4.27
[02:07] <clem> Bacon5o: any other partitions ?
[02:07] <macd> for dapper.
[02:07] <gypo> !sftp
[02:07] <macd> edgy use your kernel version
[02:07] <jacquesdupontd> hey
[02:07] <Bacon5o> dev/hdb5            4864        9729    39086113+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sftp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <jacquesdupontd> can i ask a question ?
[02:07] <jacquesdupontd> im lost
[02:07] <Jefe_AZ> paolob - just do a sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg and reboot
[02:07] <gypo> !ftp
[02:07] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[02:07] <john053> Can ubuntu be installed on xp pc?
[02:08] <Bacon5o> which I think is my "G" drive in terms of windows
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> !ask > jacquesdupontd
[02:08] <bob4444> anyone know how to run eciadsl-config-text in ubuntu, everytime I try it just opens terminal??
[02:08] <clem> Bacon5o: that's another NTFS partition... 39Go.
[02:08] <jacquesdupontd> ok
[02:08] <jacquesdupontd> i have a DWL-G520
[02:08] <jacquesdupontd> just bought for monitor mode
[02:08] <Bacon5o> dev/hdb6            4794        4863      562212   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[02:08] <jacquesdupontd> and i just updated edgy
[02:08] <clem> Bacon5o: that's probably the one you see alright.
[02:08] <jacquesdupontd> and monitor mode doesnt work
[02:08] <Tadeu31> what's up?
[02:08] <gypo> Is there a secure ftp for ubuntu?
[02:08] <GirlRiver> admiral_chicago: in short, yes. Started upgrade from Dapper to Edgy, restart interrupted the upgrade & now won't boot as it is missing /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf and maybe others.
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> jacquesdupontd: what is monitor mode?
[02:08] <Bacon5o> You get that last one clem?
[02:08] <jacquesdupontd> huhu
[02:08] <lihaile> who cant tell me
[02:08] <jacquesdupontd> it's in wifi
[02:08] <clem> Bacon5o: and /dev/hdb6 that's your Swap partition, 560Mo ok.
[02:08] <fugitive_> macd: Couldn't find package linux-kernel-dev and Im using 2.6.15-26-386 kernel
[02:08] <ompaul> gyaresu, openssh-server
[02:09] <jacquesdupontd> mode monitor
[02:09] <jacquesdupontd> to make injection
[02:09] <Bacon5o> yeah thats cool
[02:09] <lihaile> how can i go to the cn ubuntu
[02:09] <AkumAPRIME> ok, so I'm fiddling with my xorg.conf to get these dualmonitors up. My question, refer to http://pastebin.ca/227096  , is what must I  change in here to get my built in left of my external? if I simply switch the two, in line 4, it does not work. Any ideas? Can I use RightOf?
[02:09] <jacquesdupontd> to use aircrack airodump and other tools
[02:09] <clem> Bacon5o: ok, you know about swap ?
[02:09] <Tadeu31> ?
[02:09] <lihaile> i fogot the name
[02:09] <paolob> Jefe_AZ, ok, I'm doing it, but I'm surprised that such a bug could pass the various beta... and anyway it wasn't easy for me to understand what was the problem (and I know something of linux)...
[02:09] <macd> fugitive_, use apt-cache search to find the appropriate packages for your system
[02:09] <jacquesdupontd> and it was working on dapper but not on edgy
[02:09] <fugitive_> macd : thats the message I got when I tried to install linux-kernel-dev
[02:09] <jacquesdupontd> it seems its beacause of edgy
[02:09] <jacquesdupontd> and madwifi-ng instead of madiwif
[02:09] <john053> more to point - on toshiba laptop?
[02:09] <Bacon5o> i understand swap in terms of SWAP file for memory assistance
[02:09] <jacquesdupontd> madwifi
[02:09] <Admiral_Chicago> GirlRiver: hmm, i would use the Live Cd to bock up your ~/ and reinstall and update
[02:09] <fugitive_> macd: I will try now
[02:09] <clem> Bacon5o: yes.
[02:09] <jacquesdupontd> anybody having an issue ?
[02:09] <Admiral_Chicago> Edgy updates have been ugly
[02:09] <Bacon5o> but my main concern is not seeing my other filesystems, hence FAT32 & the other NTFS
[02:09] <lihaile> join /cnbuntu
[02:09] <jacquesdupontd> 5 hours tha i seach
[02:09] <Jefe_AZ> how do I set my install to do a non-GUI login?
[02:10] <clem> Bacon5o: Linux usually uses a different dedicated partition for memory swapping, that your hdb6.
[02:10] <Bacon5o> dev/hdb1               1        3249    26097561    7  HPFS/NTFS <---I cannot see this
[02:10] <A[D] minS> perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:       LANGUAGE = "en_AU:en",
[02:10] <macd> linux-kernel-devel and kernel-source-your-versiob-here @ fugitive_
[02:10] <A[D] minS> how i can check ?
[02:10] <Admiral_Chicago> GirlRiver: let me see if i can look up some more info for you
[02:11] <clem> Bacon5o: let's query each other.
[02:11] <jacquesdupontd> ok i see ;)
[02:11] <A[D] minS> btw it happend after upgrading edgy
[02:11] <GirlRiver> admiral_chicago: variant suggested to restart from Live CD then a cmd prompt BUT he is now off channel
[02:11] <DIL> jacques, i do
[02:11] <Bacon5o> Dont think I understand query in terms of your context clem
[02:11] <GirlRiver> admiral_chicago: thanks for your help
[02:11] <clem> Bacon5o: ok...
[02:12] <clem> Bacon5o: let's join a different channel so, let's say #bacon
[02:12] <Bacon5o> ok sure.
[02:12] <andresmujica> Bacon and Clem, i want to help there...  maybe your windows changed the names of the partitions, i meanf you used your F partition, to put ubuntu on it, really?
[02:12] <A[D] minS> !sources.list
[02:12] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:13] <dxdemetriou> how can I reconfigure another graphic card on edgy?
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> try to update from a terminal
[02:13] <cybergod`> hey... anyone know how the cool cube-like desktop program called?
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> GirlRiver: it may work
[02:13] <macd> dxdemetriou, did you instsall a new one to replace one or added a second?
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> cybergod`: XGL
[02:13] <dxdemetriou> macd, a new one
[02:13] <macd> cybergod`, beryl
[02:14] <cybergod`> which?
[02:14] <macd> dxdemetriou, what sort of card is it?
[02:14] <macd> cybergod`, either.
[02:14] <GirlRiver> admiral_chicago: I think he said to use CHROOT but I don't know how to do that
[02:14] <cybergod`> hehe.. thanks
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> !XGL > cybergod
[02:14] <macd> cybergod`, for edgy refer to http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[02:14] <macd> its kinda the same ;P
[02:15] <dxdemetriou> macd, sorry no the card. I moved from atlon k7 to newer, and now I can't login. In dapper and breezy I hadn't that problem
[02:15] <fugitive_> macd: i have installed the linux-kernel-dev but I cudnt found the  kernel-source for my kernel so Im installing  kernel-source-2.4.27. It should be a problem I guess?
[02:15] <cybergod`> thank you people
[02:15] <Admiral_Chicago> bbl all
[02:15] <dxdemetriou> macd, the older had nvidia, and now I have the onboard
[02:15] <Admiral_Chicago> PM me GirlRiver if you'd like but i'm goig to lay down
[02:15] <macd> fugitive_, it prolly wont work
[02:16] <anuvismh> hola
[02:16] <macd> dxdemetriou, then run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-sorg
[02:16] <lihaile> who can tell me the chinese irc
[02:16] <lihaile> adress
[02:16] <macd> !cn
[02:16] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[02:16] <lihaile>
[02:16] <lihaile> ok
[02:16] <lihaile> thx
[02:16] <James> !i810
[02:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i810 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:16] <macd> fugitive_, yeah I just notices the edgy kernel sources arent in the repos, which is odd, b/c I have them installed
[02:17] <fugitive_> macd: then how to find the proper  kernel-source for my kernel do I need to any repositories in sources.list and apt-get?
[02:17] <willzzz> anyone got firefox32 to work on edgy?
[02:17] <James> can someone help me get my resolution up to 1024x768 (im having troubles with the i810 driver)
[02:17] <GirlRiver> admiral_chicago: that's ok .. thanks for your help. Enjoy the sleep
[02:17] <fugitive_> macd: but I am using 6.06?
[02:17] <dxdemetriou> macd, I tried, but didn't work. I tried to purge the kernel also
[02:17] <GSGold> Problem: following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto  resulted in an error while verifying sector 557 due to I/O device error.  What can be done about this?
[02:17] <SlackRat> James, have you run xorgconfig?
[02:17] <macd> fugitive_, you can goto kernel.org and download, but youll have to modify version.h in the source tree to make it say your running kernel
[02:17] <fugitive_> macd: does it mean I have the Edgy's Kernel ?
[02:17] <champollion> join
[02:18] <macd> fugitive_, whats your kernel version 'uname -a'
[02:18] <agentcy> SlackRat, yes, reconfiguring xorg and running the 955resolution dont help
[02:18] <Jefe_AZ> can anyone tell me how to disable the gui login in 6.10?
[02:18] <SlackRat> what res you got now?
[02:18] <champollion> hello all
[02:18] <fugitive_> macd:  2.6.15-26-386
[02:18] <DIL> hey champ
[02:18] <retry> awesome
[02:18] <bobbyd> hi
[02:18] <agentcy> SlackRat, it only gives me options for 800x600
[02:18] <champollion> how can i update o ubuntu 5.10 ?
[02:18] <agentcy> the native is 1024x768
[02:18] <hangfire_> is there an IRC channel for ubuntu devs?
[02:18] <retry> I did it..I finally upgraded xubuntu edgy from dapper
[02:18] <bobbyd> can anyone tell me how to downgrade from edgy to dapper?
[02:18] <SlackRat> and have you tried KrandRtray??
[02:19] <agentcy> SlackRat, no, whats that
[02:19] <SlackRat> bobbyd, reinstall dapper
[02:19] <retry> bobbyd, did you backup your dapper installation toa  tarball?
[02:19] <sladen> hangfire_: yes, #ubuntu-devel
[02:19] <bobbyd> retry: no
[02:19] <hangfire_> thx sladen
[02:19] <macd> fugitive_, Im having a bit of a brain fart atm, honestly I cant think of why there is no kernel source for that :/
[02:19] <SlackRat> its a kde tool for resizing your screen and monitor
[02:19] <sladen> hangfire_: it is /not/ a support channle though
[02:19] <champollion> i'd like install php apache mysql
[02:19] <retry> then you need to reinstall dapper from a cd
[02:19] <SlackRat> dunno what the equivalent gnome pkg is
[02:19] <agentcy> hrm bummer
[02:19] <fugitive_> macd: strange isntit?
[02:19] <hangfire_> sladen- I would guess that, I just want to lurk
[02:19] <bobbyd> SlackRat: there's no apt-get way to go back?
[02:20] <macd> fugitive_, very
[02:20] <sharperguy> why is there no ibernate option in edgy?
[02:20] <snake> How do I apply metacity themes?
[02:20] <aleka> I am having trouble getting java runtime environment plugins for firefox to work
[02:20] <aleka> any suggestions?
[02:20] <agentcy> SlackRat, I tried this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281275&highlight=intel+modesetting but Xorg complains about "no modes found on either pipe"
[02:20] <GirlRiver> can someone help me CHROOT to my ubuntu install on HDD from Live CD
[02:20] <macd> sharperguy, try going into login manager and enabling show all option.
[02:20] <snake> How do I apply metacity themes?
[02:20] <macd> GirlRiver, why not just click the install icon?
[02:20] <mjelva> how difficult would it be to create something similar to the feature the grabs info from imdb, but for porn, and grabbing from iafd?
[02:21] <macd> snake, drag the theme into the theme dialog box to install.
[02:21] <champollion> i'd like install php apache mysql
[02:21] <sladen> agentcy: you can try /either/  915resolution  or  xserver-xorg-video-intel  which has the mode setting code
[02:21] <macd> !lamp
[02:21] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[02:21] <champollion> i'd like to install php apache mysql
[02:21] <mjelva> it has absolutely no practical value, but it would be kinda cool
[02:21] <snake> System/Administration/Theme?
[02:21] <Toma-> mjelva: what?
[02:21] <macd> champollion, did you see?
[02:21] <macd> !lamp
[02:21] <sladen> slackrat: you can try /either/  915resolution  or  xserver-xorg-video-intel  which has the mode setting code
[02:21] <agentcy> sladen, it appears xserver-xorg-video-intel would be better
[02:21] <dxdemetriou> how can with apt-get to change my kernel from 386 to k7?
[02:21] <champollion> anyone can help me?
[02:21] <macd> !lamp > champollion
[02:21] <aleka> I am having trouble getting java runtime environment plugins for firefox to work, any helpers ??
[02:21] <champollion> hi
[02:21] <agentcy> sladen, could you help me with that real quick?
[02:21] <GirlRiver> macd, I was upgrading from 6.06 to 6.10 and interutped the upgrade...the HDD unstall won't boot beacause missing /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[02:21] <snake> System/Administration/Theme?
[02:22] <snake> cuz theme is like .xml and it won't take it
[02:22] <champollion> i'm beginner
[02:22] <retry> oh hey macd, I got edgy xubuntu running on my laptop as of about 10 minutes ago
[02:22] <macd> GirlRiver, ahhhh, the forums have a excellent article on that
[02:22] <SlackRat> i suggest googling agentcy and be specific as to system and errors you get while googling....sounds like a pita,  but there might be a bug already on it, thats being worked on
[02:22] <macd> retry, sweet ass
[02:22] <omac> I tried Edgy Eft last night both as a live boot up and installed on hard drive.   I have good news and some little hicks to bring to your attention.
[02:22] <snake> EXCELLENT!
[02:22] <champollion> i never usee linux
[02:22] <champollion> used
[02:22] <cybergod`> stupid question, how do i switch between the languegs i write? like alt-shift in Windows
[02:22] <retry> if people come at you with their xserver bailing...tell them they need to start x with -ignoreABI
[02:22] <champollion> i'm lost
[02:22] <macd> champollion, did you read the link uboto sent you?
[02:22] <GSGold> Problem: following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto  resulted in an error while verifying sector 557 due to I/O device error.  What can be done about this?
[02:23] <macd> nice@ retry
[02:23] <agentcy> what does ignoreABI do?
[02:23] <macd> Ive seen that today actualy
[02:23] <omac> 1)The boot up from the live cd is all good and the claim that it is faster to boot up and shutdown is all true.
[02:23] <champollion> how can do this ?
[02:23] <retry> ABI version mismatch defaults to a fatal error in xort
[02:23] <SlackRat> it ignores ABI, apparently  :P
[02:23] <retry> xorg*
[02:23] <macd> GSGold, try a new blank disc
[02:23] <GirlRiver> macd, have a link ? someone here suggested to boot from lived cd and chroot from terminal window and then continue upgrade using apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:23] <champollion> madc
[02:23] <retry> if you set it to ignore, it'll get on with life instead
[02:23] <snake> FILE FORMAT INVALID!
[02:23] <snake> wtf
[02:23] <macd> GirlRiver, goto the forums and search for chroot from livecd
[02:23] <brenlae> i'm curious, is there a way that i could enable support for video that is played in a window?
[02:23] <macd> snake, then its not a metacity theme ;P
[02:23] <GirlRiver> macd, thanks
[02:23] <brenlae> i have totem-mozilla installed
[02:24] <snake> it is
[02:24] <GSGold> macd: I shall try that as soon as my computer stops freezing up every 10 seconds
[02:24] <cybergod`> people plz, how do i switch between the langues i write.. im a really newbie
[02:24] <macd> did you uncompress it already snake?
[02:24] <sladen> champollion: sudo tasksel   and select "LAMP server"
[02:24] <snake> yes
[02:24] <macd> dont.
[02:24] <retry> other issues I dealth with, I had to completely remove UIM to get all my confs to upgrade nicely (I just reinstalled UIM later)
[02:24] <snake> u sure it's in system/admin/theme
[02:24] <snake> that i gotta put it
[02:24] <brenlae> firefox complains that it's an unkown plugin
[02:24] <macd> drag the compressed theme package into the theme dialoh
[02:24] <brenlae> *unknown
[02:24] <snake> k
[02:24] <macd> dialog*
[02:24] <Plecebo> anyone have any good resources for backing up a remote machine using rsynch,cron, and something like ssh or scp?
[02:24] <coolpaul900> hey I am having problems with the new kernal
[02:24] <sladen> champollion: sudo tasksel   and select "LAMP server"
[02:24] <retry> you HAVE to run dpkg config -a over and over until it finally gets everything
[02:24] <[H] 3b0R> Will fiesty be LTS?
[02:25] <retry> and I also had to run locale-gen manually
[02:25] <snake> IT WORKED
[02:25] <retry> [H] 3b0R, no
[02:25] <macd> retry yeah I had to use aptitude and some dpkg forcing for a upgrade today
[02:25] <retry> LTS is every 4th
[02:25] <macd> snake, of course it did.
[02:25] <snake> thx
[02:25] <rbil> Plecebo: a friend of mine swears by rdiff-backup. I haven't tried it yet.
[02:25] <sladen> macd: you shouldn't need to use forcing
[02:25] <omac> 2)I tried it on a clone dual amd tyan motherboard and it works flawlessly with the live CD.  I tried it on another PC ...HP(hewlett packard) with a Pentium 1.3GHz and nvidia 6600 3d graphics card: It didn't display in any mode(vga or otherwise) from the live cd....that was a little hick of bad news by the way.
[02:25] <macd> sladen, key word, shouldnt
[02:25] <retry> Plecebo, what kind of backup?
[02:25] <Plecebo> rbil: rdiff? does that do it all or just replace the rsync?
[02:25] <retry> full filesystem?
[02:26] <rbil> google it and read. looks pretty good.
[02:26] <macd> rsyns + ssh ftw!
[02:26] <omac> 3)I tried it on a snappy 3.0Ghz Dell with 1GB of memory and 120GB hard drive.  The live CD worked great!!! the sound and graphics cards had no problems.
[02:26] <Plecebo> retry:  i just need to backup a few directorys on the remote machine, I would like differential backup because there is quite a lot of data
[02:26] <retry> then rsync is the way to go
[02:26] <macd> rsync can do differenetial
[02:26] <macd> incremental
[02:26] <macd> whatev.
[02:26] <retry> use rsync -avz -e ssh --delete from to
[02:27] <omac> 4)On the Dell...I installed Edgy Eft with no issues. shutdown and bootup...Impressive!
[02:27] <Plecebo> retry: beyond that i'd like it to be automated and secure (thats why i want scp or ssh)
[02:27] <retry> rsync uses ssh
[02:27] <retry> and you can automate with cron
[02:27] <coolpaul900> can anyone help me I have a problem with the new kernal?
[02:27] <retry> set up a public/private key pair
[02:27] <Toma-> coolpaul900: we can try
[02:27] <coolpaul900> thank you
[02:27] <omac> 5)I discovered some plugins for mozilla are not up and running yet for Edgy Eft.  Flash plugin works.
[02:27] <retry> flash 9 beta works nicely
[02:27] <retry> and is easy to drop in place
[02:27] <Plecebo> retry: cool :) how do i put in the remote macine... like user@remote-macine.TLD:/source
[02:28] <omac> 6)Torbutton plugin for firefox doesn't.
[02:28] <macd> yeah@flash9
[02:28] <Vaske_Car> what is shortcut for terminal?
[02:28] <macd> like untar and cp
[02:28] <Plecebo> retry: got the keypair setup already
[02:28] <ianmacgregor> Vaske_Car: gnome-terminal ?
[02:28] <macd> Vaske_Car, whatever you make it in keyboard shortcuts
[02:28] <Vaske_Car> yes
[02:28] <macd> is there a default shortcut?
[02:28] <Vaske_Car> by default?
[02:28] <SpyNet> i think i changed something about my login screen... since morning, each time i boot i've terminal login screen but before i'd the default ubuntu login screen... how to switch as before please ?
[02:28] <rbil> http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/
[02:28] <retry> plecebo : rsync -avz -e ssh user@remotemachine:/full/path/to/what/i/want/to/backup/ /full/path/to/local/save/point/
[02:28] <retry> --delete is optional
[02:29] <coolpaul900> so why can't I boot up into the new kernal?
[02:29] <newbie1> hey there anyone able to help me please with network manager?
[02:29] <omac> 7)some interim hicks...dvdrip hangs during a rip of a dvd in Edgy Eft...something about the gnomevfs and DBUS connection errors. ;(
[02:29] <macd> SpyNet, try system -- preferences --login
[02:29] <gypo> !ftp
[02:29] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[02:29] <Toma-> CoolBeer: is there an entry for it in grub?
[02:29] <retry> god stop using ftp
[02:29] <Toma-> ahh
[02:29] <retry> sftp is built into sshd
[02:29] <Toma-> coolpaul900: : is there an entry for it in grub?
[02:29] <retry> and you can scp or rsync if you need to
[02:29] <coolpaul900> yes
[02:29] <Toma-> sorry CoolBeer
[02:29] <retry> ftp is like telnet...
[02:29] <macd> silly to use.
[02:30] <macd> ;)
[02:30] <ianmacgregor> I am thinking about installing and using pbuilder but it says that it installs a base system. Can someone tell me what that base system is because I don't have a ton of disk space.
[02:30] <Plecebo> retry: cool thanks for the help i'll give it a shot :)
[02:30] <retry> k
[02:30] <Toma-> coolpaul900: whats the error then?
[02:30] <macd> ianmacgregor, ubuntu-base ?
[02:30] <juanfe> hello all
[02:30] <Lubix> hell ubuntu how is edgy?
[02:30] <ianmacgregor> macd: Is that what it installs?
[02:30] <SpyNet> macd: i don't have login option into system-preference
[02:30] <coolpaul900> it will stop booting after it says savedefault boot
[02:30] <omac> 8)Ok Edgy Eft has in it's repository the video editor "kino", but how come Lives is not part of it yet?
[02:30] <xipietotec> I'm trying to add a theme to usplash (it came in a deb), but it doesn't add itself to usplash-artwork in alternatives, I have the path name, but under each pathname in the usplash-atwork.so in alternatives there's a number
[02:30] <willzzz> arg no flash in 64bit edgy :\
[02:30] <newbie1> I am a new user to using ubuntu. and am stuck getting my internet connection working through my wired network. i have read the help and dont understand using the console. anyon able to help me?
[02:30] <xipietotec> what number should I add/ what does the number mean?
[02:31] <macd> ianmacgregor, yeah its just gonna bootsrtap, 20 megs should be more than enough
[02:31] <macd> SpyNet, are you on dapper or edgy?
[02:31] <SpyNet> macd: dapper
[02:31] <ianmacgregor> macd: 20 Mb? Ahh, I can handle that. Thank you
[02:31] <Toma-> coolpaul900: it doesnt spew out lots of errors? just hangs?
[02:31] <macd> my mistake SpyNet its system -- administration -- login
[02:31] <coolpaul900> no it says that there is no errors
[02:31] <Hajiki> .
[02:31] <|rt|> anyone here have problems with everything locking up trying to play wmv's within firefox with mplayer in edgy
[02:31] <coolpaul900> it just pauses forever
[02:31] <xipietotec> anyone?
[02:32] <Toma-> coolpaul900: well im stumped :(
[02:32] <omac> The "lives" maintainer has an ubuntu dapper package already there for installing.  I haven't tried it in edgy eft.  I am curious why lives is not in the ubuntu repository considering it seems to work well.
[02:32] <dxdemetriou> I can't change my kernel. I just installed the k7 kernet from synaptic, but didn't shown on menu
[02:32] <coolpaul900> the old kernal works though
[02:32] <shinobi2> how do i install xfce desktop?
[02:32] <SpyNet> macd: i don't see this opion yet into system-administration... i'm on dapper
[02:32] <Lubix> egdy rocks m an
[02:32] <juanfe> anyone know how to change my ubuntu hardware database??? I changed my graphics card and I hope to change this in the ubuntu hardware database.
[02:32] <macd> SpyNet, well Im starring at it in dapper.
[02:33] <newbie1> how does this channel work? do i take a number ? im just stuck massively
[02:33] <coolpaul900> but when I am booting up with it it has no splash it does it like command
[02:33] <niles> !moo
[02:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:33] <macd> !cow
[02:33] <agentcy> !oink
[02:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:33] <ianmacgregor> newbie1: Ask a question and someone may answer it
[02:33] <macd> couldnt resist
[02:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oink - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:33] <eikenberry> I'm looking for someone who uses a stripped down ubuntu with experience with the edgy update.
[02:33] <sharperguy> !your mother
[02:33] <macd> lol
[02:33] <newbie1>  I am a new user to using ubuntu. and am stuck getting my internet connection working through my wired network. i have read the help and dont understand using the console. anyon able to help me?
[02:33] <capiCrimm> I just upgraded to edgy and now there's a weird screen on boot-up. It reminds me of a graphics card check. Crudely drawn circles and triangles and a bar that loads.?s
[02:33] <capiCrimm> anyone know what it is?
[02:33] <macd> !botabuse > macd
[02:33] <macd> lol
[02:33] <eikenberry> By stripped down I mean a server installation with stuff removed (eg. evms, ppp) along with most of the meta-packages (eg. ubuntu-standard). Then just what I want installed.
[02:34] <omac> For the moment, dvdrip works for me in ubuntu dapper so I'm sticking to dapper until edgy eft's dvdrip doesn't hang.  I'm hoping by that time they will have "lives" in their repository also :)
[02:34] <niles> !nigger
[02:34] <sharperguy> oh soz i though this was #ubuntu-offtopix
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nigger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <macd> omac there is a server cdimage at cdimages.ubuntu.com
[02:34] <xipietotec> I've got 3 usplashes installed (ubuntu, kubuntu, and peace) under them in order in usplash-artwork.so is 10, 55, 0 I want to add another one...but I have no idea what the numbers mean
[02:34] <variant> anyone know if its possible to launce a certain application on a specific workspace?
[02:34] <coolpaul900> What is the difference between old and new kernals? Is there any?
[02:35] <variant> s/launce/launch
[02:35] <Garcher> hey im having a problem... i just dled the 6.10 iso to make a clean install and apparently it froze during the install... right now im seeing just the cursor and a creamy background
[02:35] <macd> CoolBeer, improvements.
[02:35] <macd> errr
[02:35] <macd> coolpaul900, improvements
[02:35] <omac> macd: Why did you tell me about server cdimage?
[02:35] <coolpaul900> like?
[02:35] <jsmidt> Does anybody know how to have beryl start up automaticaly when you log in?
[02:36] <macd> omac, b/c you wanted a base install?
[02:36] <xipietotec> !beryl
[02:36] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[02:36] <capiCrimm> coolpaul900, lots of little stuff
[02:36] <variant> jsmidt: system > preferences > sessions
[02:36] <macd> jsmidt, yes:http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[02:36] <macd> look down at the end.
[02:36] <variant> jsmidt: you can put in there the command
[02:36] <Abst> What is a console command to scan for wireless networks
[02:36] <coolpaul900> if I can boot up with the old kernal does it matter a lot using the new one?
[02:36] <Garcher> help! plz
[02:36] <macd> Its a good practice to leave your normal xsession and have an xgl/beryl session as well
[02:36] <hangfire_> beryl sounds interesting, is that a replacement for X?
[02:36] <coolpaul900> does it change a thing?
[02:36] <capiCrimm> coolpaul900, no
[02:36] <boricua> has anyone tried the new pepperpad 3? i read some negative reviews on the wifi portion of it but other then that i saw one and it looks impresive, i am wondering if its mature to buy????
[02:36] <xipietotec> Abst: sudo iwlist ethX scan
[02:37] <xipietotec> or wlanX scan
[02:37] <coolpaul900> so what is the difference?
[02:37] <macd> Garcher, reboot and start over.
[02:37] <Abst> xipietotec: Thanks
[02:37] <capiCrimm> coolpaul900, yes it changes how stuff works, but if the new one isn't working then just use the old.
[02:37] <Garcher> >.>;
[02:37] <coolpaul900> THANK YOU
[02:37] <eikenberry> variant. devilspie or wmctrl might do what you want.
[02:37] <shinobi2> what was the K-version of synaptic?
[02:37] <newbie1>  I am a new user to using ubuntu. and am stuck getting my internet connection working through my wired network. i have read the help and dont understand using the console. anyon able to help me?
[02:38] <boricua> newbie1: are you using dhcp?
[02:38] <newbie1> yes
[02:38] <boricua> what does ifconfig show
[02:38] <xipietotec> newbie1: what kind of wireless card is it?
[02:38] <capiCrimm> coolpaul900, eventually you may want to upgrade and see if the problems you had are fixed, and it's probably prudent to eventually figure out what was wrong because eventually you will need to upgrade.
[02:38] <macd> I think he said wired.
[02:38] <xipietotec> oh, nevermind =)
[02:38] <boricua> indeed he said wired
[02:38] <variant> eikenberry: excellent, thanks
[02:38] <coolpaul900> why will I need to?
[02:38] <omac> macd: I don't want a base install.  I was simply informing people in this forum that Edgy Eft works well, but dvdrip hangs in edgy eft, and the Edgy Eft live cd has problems with ndvidia 6600 graphics cards.  I was also informing that "lives"(non-linear video editor) rocks and works in ubuntu dapper but it is an external package.  My suggestion is to have "lives" as part of the official ubuntu repositories.  lives works in dapper.  I didn't try i
[02:38] <omac> t in eft.
[02:38] <xipietotec> I would try sudo dhclient eth0
[02:38] <boricua> run system/administration/networking
[02:39] <juanfe> anyone know how to change my data in ubuntu hardware database???
[02:39] <boricua> or from console run sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[02:39] <macd> lives uses non-free packages I think
[02:39] <variant> omac: i tried lives, thought it was a pos tbh :P
[02:39] <eikenberry> No one else runs a stripped down ubuntu?
[02:39] <newbie1> i have downloaded the network manager but i get errrors when trying to install them
[02:39] <capiCrimm> coolpaul900, well, for the same reason people still aren't using version 1.
[02:39] <omac> variant:  what do you use in dapper or eft instead?
[02:39] <newbie1> its a wired cared
[02:39] <variant> omac: nothing
[02:39] <newbie1> its a wired card
[02:39] <coolpaul900> why is that?
[02:40] <xipietotec> if anyone knows what the numbers in usplash-artwork.so mean I'd be very greatful
[02:40] <newbie1> error: dependency is not satisfiable: libc6
[02:40] <variant> newbie1: do you get an ip address automaticaly from your isp or is it static?
[02:40] <omac> variant: hahaha I hope you enjoyed that at my expense :)
[02:40] <variant> omac: :P
[02:40] <coolpaul900> the new kernal I got because I upgraded to edgy eft
[02:40] <newbie1> i get the ip from my router. the router ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:40] <dougsko> eikenberry: i run a headless ubuntu server, and i have a xubuntu machine with fluxbox on it, is that stripped down enough to help?
[02:41] <macd> coolpaul900, are you weighing options why to or not to boot the new kernel?
[02:41] <variant> newbie1: in a terminal type dhclient eth0
[02:41] <boricua> newbie1: can you go to system/administration/networking
[02:41] <newbie1> ok hang on
[02:41] <variant> newbie1: in a terminal type sudo dhclient eth0
[02:41] <coolpaul900> I guess maybe
[02:41] <newbie1> hang on
[02:41] <fugitive_> macd: I have tried apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386, its installing now it shoudl work
[02:41] <macd> coolpaul900, just boot it.
[02:41] <boricua> !networking
[02:41] <macd> fugitive_, nice so there are headers for your kernel at least
[02:41] <capiCrimm> coolpaul900, if the new kernel works, use it.
[02:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:41] <boricua> !eth0
[02:41] <fugitive_> macd: yes
[02:42] <coolpaul900> just boot what for what reason if it does not work
[02:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eth0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:42] <boricua> !dhcp
[02:42] <ubotu> dhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 108 kB, installed size 308 kB
[02:42] <coolpaul900> the new kernal is the problem not the old one
[02:42] <eikenberry> dougsko. Sounds close. You upgraded yet? All the standard stuff says 'install ubuntu-desktop first'... but it seems silly to download/install over 200M worth of stuff just to update.
[02:42] <macd> coolpaul900, if it doesnt work reboot with the old one.
[02:42] <fugitive_> macd: infact I have tried from UbuntuForums
[02:42] <fugitive_> macd: there was a similar post in regards to Vmware Server installation
[02:42] <MugginsM> "write once, run anywhere". "unless that anywhere is eclipse on amd64 edgy".
[02:42] <omac> variant:  I would use kino, but it seems to only use native dv video.  At least with lives I can use .yuv format video....which is the straight input for the theora_encoder standalone.
[02:42] <macd> fugitive_, yeah I had todo the same to install vmware-player
[02:43] <variant> omac: yeah
[02:43] <dougsko> eikenberry: nah, im not gonna upgrade for a while, if at all. but dont worry about the desktop package. you can always just install it later
[02:43] <coolpaul900> I have tried soo many times to use the new one it just does not work
[02:43] <macd> coolpaul900, what error do you get?
[02:43] <coolpaul900> none
[02:43] <variant> omac: kino is great but only one small step to make it usefull to 100x greater number of users
[02:43] <prinker> OTL....
[02:43] <capiCrimm> anyone else get a weird screen at boot after upgrade, like bright CLI colors, and triangles and other graphic-test like stuff?
[02:43] <coolpaul900> that is the problem
[02:43] <prinker>  ..;
[02:43] <macd> coolpaul900, then how does it not work with no error?
[02:43] <coolpaul900> there is none to fix
[02:43] <variant> omac: and they wont do it
[02:43] <macd> coolpaul900, what are yousaying then?
[02:43] <newbie1> variant: i typed dhclient eth0 and i got
[02:43] <macd> coolpaul900, you get no error but it doesnt work, do you get just a black screen?
[02:44] <omac> variant: why are you so sure about this?
[02:44] <variant> omac: about what?
[02:44] <eikenberry> dougsko. As I thought. I'm just planning on doing the aptitude update/dist-upgrade dance I always do with debian. Wish the docs were a little better in this regard.
[02:44] <ompaul> prinker, please don't do that, this channel is an english language channel
[02:44] <xipietotec> MugginsM: I wouldn't consider the amd64 edgy stable personally (unless you're using only the default repos), hopefully Biarch will be finalized in Fiesty
[02:44] <coolpaul900> I get no error and it doesn't work
[02:44] <MugginsM> xipie: yeah, it doesn't seem 100%
[02:44] <newbie1> cant create /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases Permission denied
[02:44] <variant> newbie1: use sudo
[02:44] <macd> coolpaul900, do you get a black screen with a blinking cursor?
[02:44] <variant> newbie1: as i said
[02:44] <omac> variant:  that the kino devteam won't provide other native input file format support?
[02:44] <xipietotec> newbie1: use sudo
[02:44] <MugginsM> shame, cos it's about 20% faster for one of the big things I need
[02:44] <coolpaul900> no
[02:44] <variant> newbie1: sudo dhclient eth0
[02:45] <dougsko> eikenberry: do you have any questions about the process?
[02:45] <macd> coolpaul900, then what do you get? just a black screen?
[02:45] <grndslm> coolpaul900...do you have your home directory on a separate partition?
[02:45] <coolpaul900> well not the blank screen
[02:45] <variant> omac: because it has been around for years and i am certain somone must have asked for it
[02:45] <macd> coolpaul900, are youi going to make me pull teeth or are you going to explain it fully?
[02:45] <variant> omac: i am not certain that they wont implement it though, thats just a guess
[02:45] <coolpaul900> I have partitioned the disk becuase I run dual os
[02:45] <omac> variant: ok...you're for real.  You know what you're talking about.
[02:45] <eikenberry> dougsko. Not really... I've updated many a debian boxes. This was just my first time with ubuntu since I decided to give it a try (I first installed ubuntu with a dapper-flight).
[02:45] <variant> omac: lol, what do you mean?

[02:46] <omac> variant: You're for real as opposed to someone just wanting to flame me :)
[02:46] <agentcy> can anyone help me out here.. I got this error in Xorg using the intel modesetting driver.. I810(0): Mode 1024x768 out of range
[02:46] <variant> omac: I see
[02:46] <xipietotec> anyone know what the numbers mean in usplash-artwork.so?
[02:46] <dougsko> eikenberry: youll be fine then, its the exact same thing
[02:46] <variant> omac: it's the same with gimp, except i know for a fact that the devs for gimp take the name to heart :P
[02:46] <SlackRat> if it werent for flaming, this room would be half empty
[02:46] <variant> some of them anyway
[02:46] <SlackRat> :P
[02:46] <eikenberry> dougsko. Good. Just like to get as much info as process as I can before acting when I can... seemed prudent to ask around a bit. Thanks. :)
[02:47] <dougsko> eikenberry: np
[02:47] <Tim90> every time i run su -p i get authentication failed
[02:47] <coolpaul900> ok it starts the grub loads by asking what kernal I want to boot into I chose the new one it starts doing it like the other one then it just stops thinking
[02:47] <ompaul> !resolution > agentcy
[02:47] <Tim90> !su
[02:47] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:48] <omac> variant:  gimp's cool and works fine for doing real stuff with it.  It's not hype...gimp works well.
[02:48] <newbie1> variant?
[02:48] <ompaul> agentcy, read the message from the bot ubotu
[02:48] <SpyNet> i think i changed something about my login screen... since morning, each time i boot i've terminal login screen but before i'd the default ubuntu login screen... how to switch as before please ?
[02:48] <macd> coolpaul900, boot with the kernel that works, and reinstall the new kernel.
[02:48] <Tim90> i get it now
[02:48] <ompaul> Tim90, use sudo :-)
[02:48] <coolpaul900> I did that it still didn't work
[02:48] <macd> coolpaul900, the  post a bug on launchpad.
[02:48] <macd> then*
[02:48] <xipietotec> SpyNet: did you edit /boot/grub/ recently?
[02:48] <coolpaul900> how?
[02:49] <macd> goto the website and follow the instructions.
[02:49] <SpyNet> xipietotec, no
[02:49] <macd> !launchpad
[02:49] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[02:49] <ompaul> coolpaul900, go to launchpad.net and then ask in #ubuntu-bugs for help if you get stuck :)
[02:49] <sladen> xipietotec: what numbers?  the version number?
[02:49] <shinobi2> how do i uninstall gnome desktop?  i just installed k desktop
[02:49] <newbie1> ok i typed sudo dhclient eth0 now what?
[02:49] <Tim90> ompaul::-P
[02:49] <sladen> shinobi2: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:49] <variant> shinobi2: apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[02:49] <omac> variant:  did you do your complete upgrade from dapper to edgy eft yet?  dvdrip has issues to resolve in Edgy Eft(DBUS/gnomevfs errors)
[02:49] <coolpaul900> thanks I will try that
[02:49] <variant> omac: i did it a few months ago
[02:50] <variant> omac: but yes, i am now upto date with the latest release
[02:50] <omac> variant: which means I am going to hold off on Edgy Eft forthe moment.
[02:50] <MugginsM> I feel I should contribute to fixing some of these bugs, but all the ones I've found have been way over my head
[02:50] <sladen> omac: can you file a bug report if there is an issue with dvdrip
[02:50] <xipietotec> sladen: Okay, I've got 3 current installed usplashes, ubuntu, kubuntu, and peace, I installed a 4th, but it didn't add itself to usplash-artwork.so under the 3 in there, there's 3 numbers in order: 10,55,0
[02:50] <ompaul> shinobi2, if you have the room don't bother, you need to examine all the contents of unbuntu-desktop and remove them - messy and a waste of time if you have the room
[02:50] <cipher_nemo> anyone got edgy to work with video acceleration from an old ATI Rage IIc chip? (ie: any ATI chip prior to Radeon) I assume I could use DRI, but it looks like its a 'roll your own' build (no binaries, no packages)?
[02:50] <xipietotec> I want to add the path to the 4th one, but I have no idea what the numbers mean
[02:50] <sladen> xipietotec: they are priorities---which one should be used if you don't select one
[02:51] <newbie1> Can someone please help me with installing network manager/
[02:51] <sladen> !networkmanager
[02:51] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[02:51] <variant> newbie1: apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[02:51] <dooglus> dondelelcaro: OK, I'm going to have to go out for a bit now;  thanks for that Debug::??? setting - I'll try it out when I get back.
[02:51] <ianmacgregor> ompaul: sudo apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove ubuntu-desktop will remove ubuntu-desktop and all the files that it istalled in Edgy
[02:51] <shinobi2> ompaul, something in my gnome desktop is screwed up, i can't fix it.  i think it's gtk or something, evince and all other apts that depend of fonts are messed up
[02:51] <dooglus> or rather... I want to 'grep' through a large binary file for an ascii string and get a charater offset to its position.  can I do that?  or does 'grep' only work on text files?
[02:51] <xipietotec> sladen: Oh, okay, that makes more sense, so If I add the 4th would this priorty be okay, 10,55,56,0?
[02:52] <grndslm> why can't i install flashplugin-nonfree AND flashplayer-mozilla at the same time??  and is libflash-mozplugin even necessary if the nonfree one(s) are installed?
[02:52] <shinobi2> ompaul, so my plan is to uninstall gnome then install it back
[02:52] <sladen> xipietotec: I can't quite see where you would have to type those numbers
[02:52] <ompaul> shinobi2, why on earth?
[02:52] <jrib> grndslm: why would you want both?
[02:52] <sladen> xipietotec: which file is this?  what command are you typing?
[02:52] <omac> I can't, the Eft install was done on a friend's computer and I would have to go to his house to make the bug report with the explicit details.  Essentially bug was with DBUS and gnomevfs while the actual rip was occurring.  the read contents when blazingly fast though.  I was surprised the rip of the specified track failed but yes it did hang...and the error was displayed in the terminal.
[02:52] <xipietotec> sladen: they're right under the path line in usplash-artwork.so in alternatives
[02:52] <shinobi2> ompaul, also ubuntu 6.10's wifi does not work on my desktop.  so i have  to use 6.06
[02:52] <grndslm> jrib....because I don't understand why two options exist in the first place
[02:53] <variant> omac: do it with ssh
[02:53] <shinobi2> ompaul, cause, fonts are screwed up, i can't read anything
[02:53] <ompaul> shinobi2, you can't go backwards
[02:53] <xipietotec> sladen: /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so
[02:53] <jrib> grndslm: I haven't looked at the edgy versions, but nonfree used to grab it from the flash website, while -mozilla actually had the files.  The -nonfree one is the right way to do it
[02:53] <shinobi2> ompaul, fluxbox is fine, kdesktop is fine too, but other apps that depend of gnome-ish fonts are screwed up
[02:53] <xipietotec> oops, wrong one
[02:53] <sladen> xipietotec: are you, for instance, typing   update-alternatives --display usplash-artwork.so
[02:53] <xipietotec> hold on
[02:54] <ompaul> shinobi2, edgy by name and nature :-/
[02:54] <xipietotec> sladen: sudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so
[02:54] <shinobi2> ompaul, 6.10 is on a different partition thatn 6.06, i;ll need  to fix 6.10's wifi on my laptop later
[02:54] <grndslm> jrib...so the gpl flash library isn't necessary either then?
[02:54] <jrib> grndslm: no
[02:54] <grndslm> awesome...thanks
[02:54] <sladen> xipietotec: that's a binary file!  It's a compiled program, if you try to edit it you'll break it!
[02:55] <omac> variant: :) I can't this dude is a Windoze lover until I get this dvdrip thing fixed.  We reconnected his Windoze drive back before I left.  If it's any consolation, his 160GB Hard Drive still has Edgy Eft on it, but he's not using it until this dvdrip thing works.  I'm staying on dapper until his works :)
[02:55] <jrib> grndslm: so you know, flash beta9 is out if you are interested
[02:55] <sladen> xipietotec: what are you actually trying to do?
[02:55] <variant> omac: ok :(
[02:55] <shinobi2> ompaul, also i just installed xfce on 6.06, fonts are not displayed correctly.  is that gtk?
[02:55] <ompaul> shinobi2, did you do xubuntu-desktop?
[02:55] <grndslm> jrib...is it stable enough??  I heard that fullscreen still doesn't work for stuff like youtube
[02:55] <RhiNo> cafuego u there?
[02:55] <keithhhh> Im using 6.06 and I went into Alacarte and I made one change and now my entire Applications menu is unaccessable.... Can anyone help??
[02:55] <xipietotec> sladen: I'm trying to get usplash to recognize an installed theme. for some reason it didn't add it to the options
[02:55] <gigiven> i'm looking for democracyplayer
[02:56] <kober> how do you check what resolution you are running at?
[02:56] <sladen> xipietotec: editing binary files is not the way to go...
[02:56] <gigiven> and how to install
[02:56] <jrib> grndslm: does fullscreen work in flash7?  I never even knew the thing existed until I read the release notes for 9beta and saw it didn't have fullscreen
[02:56] <sladen> xipietotec: how did you install this 4th theme ?
[02:56] <xipietotec> sladen: it's this file here: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=46645
[02:56] <grndslm> kober... go to System, Preferences, and Screen Resolution
[02:56] <xipietotec> it's in a deb
[02:56] <xipietotec> but the deb err...didn't work right so far as I can tell
[02:56] <kober> grndslm: is there a commandline one?
[02:56] <jrib> grndslm: as to stability, it's as stable as 7 ever was for me
[02:56] <shinobi2> ompaul, no just apt-get install xfce4?  why should i do it again with xubuntu-desktop?
[02:56] <OkinawaSkittles5> i am trying to run ubuntu live cd 6.06 but it keeps hanging up at saving VESA state, i have tried ... pnpbios=off noapic noapic apci=off noacpi  ... does anyone else have any ideas or suggestions
[02:57] <xipietotec> I mean, it's installed but it didn't add it to the options in update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[02:57] <newbie1> i know what network manager does. but everytime i open the package for it. i get Error: Dependency is not Satisfiable: libc6
[02:57] <dabaR> gigiven: /msg ubotu democracyplayer, /msg ubotu universe
[02:57] <omac> variant: There is hope though.  The other feature request was something like dvdshrink (dvd9 to dvd5 tool) which grabs honking huge amounts of extraneous data and resizes/clips/compresses to make it fit on 4.4GB DVD's.   He loves this in windoze and I haven't found anything to replace this either.
[02:57] <grndslm> kober...you can see it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you open it with a text editor such as nano
[02:57] <ompaul> shinobi2, becuase it carries a reasonable set of dependencies
[02:57] <xipietotec> sladen: And that's a binary? I thought .so files were source...not binary?
[02:57] <newbie1> i know what network manager does. but everytime i open the package for it. i get Error: Dependency is not Satisfiable: libc6
[02:57] <Toma-> omac: google "xdvdshrink"
[02:57] <ompaul> shinobi2, ask in #xubuntu for detail if you need it - they are not the same thing
[02:57] <grndslm> jrib, watching youtube videos in fullscreen is pretty much the only reason i envy windows users...but, i will live
[02:58] <Vich> how can I change the allowed resolutions?
[02:58] <Toma-> omac: alternatively, there lots of howtos to get windows dvdshrink running under wine
[02:58] <cartucho> sup people, im having an issue with network-manager and edgy, i have an athero with madwify, i can make it work trough command line, the problem is that my wireless interface does not show up in network manager, any tip ?
[02:58] <Vich> I just got a new monitor
[02:58] <ompaul> grndslm, F112
[02:58] <jrib> !fixres > Vich
[02:58] <ompaul> grndslm, F11 that is
[02:58] <Vich> sorry jrib
[02:58] <keithhhh> Im using 6.06 and I went into Alacarte and I made one change and now my entire Applications menu is unaccessable.... Can anyone help??
[02:58] <Vich> !fixres
[02:58] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:58] <grndslm> ompaul....youtube videos in fullscreen???  that just makes firefox fullscreen, but not the vids
[02:58] <omac> Toma:  ask and my friend shall receive WOW!!! does it work in both dapper and eft?
[02:58] <variant> omac: what, like dvdshrink?
[02:58] <ThinkingMan> I'm having trouble with changes to my xorg.conf file not "sticking" anyone have time to help?
[02:58] <cartucho> sup people, im having an issue with network-manager and edgy, i have an athero with madwify, i can make it work trough command line, the problem is that my wireless interface does not show up in network manager, any tip ?
[02:59] <ompaul> grndslm, so download them and use your player of choice
[02:59] <Toma-> omac: if wine works in eft, then yes. havent tested wine yet! wewt
[02:59] <variant> omac: there is a program for doing that functionality in linux, forget the name of it though
[02:59] <ompaul> !nickspam > condar
[03:00] <newbie1> i know what network manager does. but everytime i open the package for it. i get Error: Dependency is not Satisfiable: libc6
[03:00] <xipietotec> I've generally heard for dvd burning....its best to just do it on a windows machine
[03:00] <ompaul> condar, remove that away notice please
[03:00] <grndslm> ompaul...true, true...i just wish that there weren't so many alternate ways to do things...i wish there were just the right way
[03:00] <ompaul> grndslm, if it works it is right
[03:00] <omac> Toma...as you know wine is windows emulating stuff.  I'm looking for native stuff.  I don't want my friend to run linux to run windows stuff.
[03:00] <gigiven> someone use democracyplayer tv?
[03:00] <sladen> xipietotec: update-alternatives --install /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so usplash-artwork.so /usr/lib/usplash/FOOBAR.so 60
[03:00] <gigiven> pls
[03:00] <shinobi2> ompaul, ok thank
[03:00] <grndslm> ompaul, heh...i guess you are right again
[03:00] <xipietotec> ompaul: if it works...but its a major pain to make it work...it's not right, its sorta sufficient
[03:00] <Toma-> omac: no prob "http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Xdvdshrink"
[03:01] <dabaR> keithhhh: I think you can reinstall gnome-panel with sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-panel
[03:01] <xipietotec> sladen: w00t....testing that out, thankya =)
[03:01] <shinobi2> hi
[03:01] <ThinkingMan> is there a command I should run to make xorg.conf changes permanent?
[03:01] <keithhhh> dabaR ok thanks wish me luck  ;)
[03:01] <Toma-> omac: if you do the ground work and make the .deb file for your friend, it'll be smooth sailing for all
[03:02] <kitche> ThinkingMan: nope if you editted it by hand just save it
[03:02] <ompaul> ThinkingMan, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:02] <variant> omac: http://dvdshrink.sourceforge.net/
[03:02] <newbie1> please can someone help me... i cant seem to get it to work...
[03:03] <ThinkingMan> ompaul: When I first made changes to the conf file and then logged out/in, they worked, then I rebooted not too long ago and the changes I made in the conf file are still there but no longer work, will dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg fix that?
[03:03] <xipietotec> sladen: worked! thankyou =)
[03:03] <ompaul> ThinkingMan, you set your changes in there - but it depends on what changes you made
[03:03] <omac> Toma:  I'll take a look and give you some feedback in a week or two about your request for a .deb.
[03:04] <ThinkingMan> just configuring my touchpad for horizontal/vertical scrolling
[03:04] <sladen> xipietotec: perhaps it would be best to add that as a comment to that forums post
[03:04] <omac> Toma:  Thank you for the pointer.  You're a gentleman and a scholar.
[03:04] <Toma-> omac: oh, ive got a deb installed
[03:04] <Toma-> omac: :> no prob
[03:04] <omac> toma: using alien?
[03:04] <ThinkingMan> ompaul: correct me if I'm wrong, under section "InputDevice" for Identifier "Synapics Touchpad" I just set HorizScrollDelta to 30 and VertScrollDelta to 30, anything seem wrong there?
[03:05] <Toma-> omac: checkinstall. compiled form source like a silly sausage
[03:05] <ompaul> ThinkingMan, not a touchpad user
[03:05] <mztriz> hey, were is paste bin?
[03:05] <ompaul> paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:05] <xipietotec> sladen: doing =)
[03:05] <mztriz> *where
[03:05] <mztriz> thanks.
[03:05] <newbie1> ok i need some help here installing my network. i am pluged straight into my router, the router is providing dhcp support. i cant seeit. i cant get online with it. nothing works. tried installing network manager and it doesnt work
[03:06] <ThinkingMan> ompaul: OK, I understand, lemme preface this with "I'm relatively new to admining my own linux box" so would that type of editing be normal?
[03:06] <OkinawaSkittles5> i am trying to run ubuntu live cd 6.06 but it keeps hanging up at saving VESA state, i have tried ... pnpbios=off noapic noapic apci=off noacpi  ... does anyone else have any ideas or suggestions
[03:06] <dabaR> newbie1: is it wireless?
[03:06] <mztriz> I'm trying to upgrade to edgy, does anyone know what this X11 error is? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28986/
[03:06] <newbie1> no its not its wired...
[03:06] <omac> newbie1:  are you using a wired or wireless router?  Is your router also your modem?  Is it cable or ADSL?
[03:06] <dabaR> newbie1: why the network manager then?
[03:06] <newbie1> yes its also a modem and its adsl.
[03:06] <newbie1> i thoughts thats what i needed/
[03:07] <ompaul> ThinkingMan, I would look at the message I am about to get the bot to send you - see if there is anything in there for you
[03:07] <dabaR> network manager is for wireless.
[03:07] <newbie1> ok sorry
[03:07] <dabaR> newbie1: did you try sudo pppoeconf?
[03:07] <omac> newbie1: pppconfig
[03:07] <newbie1> well i need to get my network working anyways it is
[03:07] <dabaR> newbie1: or is it dhcp for sure?
[03:07] <ThinkingMan> ompaul: thx
[03:07] <newbie1> not yet dabar. ill try it
[03:07] <newbie1> yes it us
[03:07] <fugitive_> macd: finally i installed vmware server. thx for your help anyways
[03:07] <dougsko> mztriz: have you tried doing what it says?
[03:08] <Bacon5o> woot
[03:08] <Bacon5o> hey clem
[03:08] <dabaR> newbie1: then you do not need pppoeconf.
[03:08] <coolpaul900> How do I upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10?
[03:08] <Bacon5o> windows sees the F:\
[03:08] <omac> newbie1:  What are the lights on your modem showing?  how many lights have you got?
[03:08] <mztriz> dougsko, I'm not really sure what to do... wehre should I move the files to?
[03:08] <mztriz> *where
[03:08] <ompaul> ThinkingMan, have a look at the message now
[03:08] <newbie1> 4 port modem/router
[03:08] <dabaR> newbie1: run lspci and ifconfig, and ifconfig eth0 up, and post output to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:08] <variant> how hte heck do you change desktop icon size on gnome/ubuntu ?
[03:08] <ThinkingMan> ompaul: looking
[03:08] <cartucho> is someone using network manager and madwifi ?
[03:08] <newbie1> 1 3 4 are all lite. this machine on 3 and laptop on 4
[03:09] <dang`r`us> hi
[03:09] <ThinkingMan> ompaul: "This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates. Before creating the page, please check if a similar page already exists.
[03:09] <dabaR> newbie1: the third command with sudo
[03:09] <coolpaul900> How do I upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10?
[03:09] <nikosapi> Um what is going on with the plf repo? I found this mirror ftp://ftp.easynet.fr/plf/ubuntu/README Is there an alternative?
[03:09] <AlanHaggai> !upgrade
[03:09] <ubotu> For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[03:09] <aragorn_elessar> Hi at all!
[03:09] <newbie1> dabar
[03:09] <dang`r`us> just upgraded to edgy, wanted to install libgl1-mesa-dev,got this problem: libgl1-mesa-dev: Depends: mesa-common-dev (= 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3) but 6.5.1+cvs20060824 is to be installed
[03:09] <newbie1> can u please msg me
[03:09] <dougsko> mztriz: not sure, but it probly doesnt matter. maybe just /usr/bin/X11R6 or something. just put it somewhere where youll remember, make the symlink, and retry X
[03:09] <Bacon5o> dabar: can you give me the link to the wiki guide for ubuntu?
[03:09] <ompaul> ThinkingMan, let me look
[03:09] <variant> nikosapi: plf is no more
[03:09] <dang`r`us> what should I do about that?
[03:10] <AlanHaggai> Hi coolpaul900
[03:10] <aragorn_elessar> someone can tell me where is  System  Administration  Disks in edgy?
[03:10] <dabaR> Bacon5o: ask google
[03:10] <rixth> Is there a program that I can point an MP3 and it will fix the length header? I have files that are being reported as 9 minutes, when they are only 4.
[03:10] <coolpaul900> hi
[03:10] <ompaul> ThinkingMan,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[03:10] <omac> newbie1:  is your router/modem a wireless one?  What colors are the your "link", "online" and "power" lights?
[03:10] <phire> Is there any way I can check if all the packages are installed properly?
[03:10] <AlanHaggai> coolpaul900 : did you add the  edgy repositories?
[03:10] <navreet> what the heck happened to my /etc/fstab when I upgraded to edgy?
[03:10] <ThinkingMan> ompaul: heh, just found the same page, thx
[03:10] <coolpaul900> not yet
[03:11] <omac> newbie1:  Are these lights "link", "online" and "power"...solid? or blinking?
[03:11] <AlanHaggai> coolpaul900 : then add it
[03:11] <newbie1> omac: can u please msg me and ill msg you there im getting lost in this channel window
[03:11] <wickedpuppy> navreet, nothing happened to mine
[03:11] <coolpaul900> is that it?
[03:11] <AlanHaggai> yes
[03:11] <tazman> how to open .bin .gz .rpm files
[03:11] <navreet> the UUIDs
[03:11] <nikosapi>  so what if I have packages installed from plf and I want to upgrade?
[03:11] <AlanHaggai> coolpaul900 : paste me your /etc/sources.list file
[03:11] <navreet> wickedpuppy, the UUIDs... check out this post (not by me) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1301131
[03:11] <ompaul> nikosapi, at yor own risk
[03:11] <mztriz> dougsko: how do i move the directory and replace it with a 'symlink' (what is a symlink?)
[03:11] <coolpaul900> how do I know that?
[03:11] <newbie1> power is solid and satus is flashing
[03:12] <henke> I did edgy clean install, got 104 sec boot time (bootchart) compared to 75 in dapper.  is that common
[03:12] <variant> does anyone know how to change the size of the desktop icons please?
[03:12] <RhiNo> i go to install something and i get the message
[03:12] <ompaul> nikosapi, get yourself a backup first
[03:12] <newbie1> cause im using it for this pc as welll
[03:12] <marianom> hi there
[03:12] <nikosapi> is it possible with apt to uninstall all packages from a certain repo?
[03:12] <RhiNo> "only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time"
[03:12] <BetaCookies> hmm
[03:12] <shinobi2> hi ompaul !!!
[03:12] <RhiNo> how do i find out or close whatever else is running
[03:12] <wickedpuppy> navreet, if not you then why worry ? my /etc is tarred and zipped ... i have nothing to worry from changing config files
[03:12] <variant> henke: no, i would say that was somthing being broken.. my pos old ocmputer boots in about 19 seconds
[03:12] <newbie1> omac?
[03:12] <ThinkingMan> ompaul: after reading through there and attempting to install gsynaptics I get an error saying that I have to have 'SHMConfig' to true in xorg.conf to use gysnaptics, is this save?  (and if so, how do I go about setting it?)
[03:12] <tazman> mp3 downloader
[03:13] <AlanHaggai> coolpaul900 : can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[03:13] <shinobi2> /close
[03:13] <ompaul> ThinkingMan, I said already I am not a touchpad user - I don't know
[03:13] <navreet> wickedpuppy, heh, I should've upgraded first... then added my new hdd
[03:13] <variant> is it even possible to change the size of desktop icons with gnome?
[03:13] <AlanHaggai> coolpaul900 : and send the link to me
[03:13] <RhiNo> i go to install something and i get the message "only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time" how do i close whatever else is running?
[03:13] <coolpaul900> what is that?
[03:13] <ThinkingMan> ompaul: sorry, i wasn't sure if SHMConfig is touchpad specific
[03:13] <dabaR> newbie1: I told you what to do.
[03:13] <wickedpuppy> navreet, you should have backed up /etc ...
[03:13] <strabes> variant: yes right click on the icon and hit stretch icon
[03:13] <ompaul> ThinkingMan, most likely
[03:13] <AlanHaggai> try this coolpaul900
[03:13] <coolpaul900> sorry I am a newbie
[03:13] <henke> variant: ok. I'm on centrino @ 1.73
[03:13] <variant> strabes: i want to set hte default for all of them