[05:46] <Q_Continuum> that fixed it, but killed "effects"
[05:46]  * Q_Continuum shrugs
[05:46] <jhnthn> panayiotis: Yeah like www.google.com. Select it and drag it onto your desktop
[05:46] <amazen720> scguy318: when I do that in terminal i get this "http://pastebin.com/m4a1f1f6e"
[05:46] <BiTMAP_> ahaha
[05:46] <BiTMAP_> upgrade button, im a nob, thanks
[05:46] <panayiotis> jhnthn: thanks very much
[05:46] <mssever> Q_Continuum: Oh, the effects are in compiz. You can try compiz --replace &
[05:46] <[Toshiba]> thanks
[05:46] <jhnthn> panayiotis: You're welcome
[05:47] <kahrytan> [Toshiba], http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html
[05:47] <scguy318> amazen720: try booting to a normal generic kernel
[05:47] <Q_Continuum> mssever - meh, should fix itself when I logout
[05:47] <mssever> Q_Continuum: yeah
[05:47] <scguy318> amazen720: seems they're not doing restricted for the server kernel
[05:47] <winux> scguy318: sorry what was the pastebin link? was running between rooms
[05:47] <scguy318> !pastebin | winux
[05:47] <ubotu> winux: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:47] <kahrytan> [Toshiba], It can stream video over internet as well.
[05:47] <amazen720> how do I boot from a generic kernal
[05:47] <scguy318> amazen720: you'll have to install the generic kernel first, thats
[05:48] <winux> scguy318: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43630/
[05:48] <mssever> amazen720: choose it from the grub menu, assuming you've installed it
[05:48] <scguy318> amazen720: linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic
[05:48] <scguy318> amazen720: then just pick from GRUB menu
[05:49] <scguy318> amazen720: your WiFi device integrated or PC Card?
[05:49] <panayiotis> jhnthn: another think is that when i am going to a page the writings are small how can i enlarge the page?
[05:49] <scguy318> amazen720: if the former what's your notebook model, if the latter what's the card?
[05:49] <scguy318> amazen720: sorry, incorrectly addressed you
[05:49] <scguy318> winux: your WiFi device integrated or PC Card?
[05:49] <jhnthn> panayiotis: Sorry, try doing the icon beside the URL
[05:49] <scguy318> winux: if the former what's your notebook model, if the latter what's the card?
[05:50] <MTecknology> I found a bug a while ago. It had to do with setting the system clock to current date during startup. the fix was listed, but i can't find the bug
[05:50] <MTecknology> anybody have any familiarity with it?
[05:50] <winux> scguy318: Gateway MX8738
[05:50] <jhnthn> panayiotis: Are you using Firefox? If so press CTRL and the + sign
[05:50] <scguy318> winux: integrated WiFi or in the form of a PC Card?
[05:51] <winux> scguy318: i believe its integrated
[05:51] <winux> scguy318: its a notebook
[05:51] <panayiotis> thanks again jhnthn
[05:51] <jhnthn> np
[05:52] <tony_> Hey guys, my cousin just called me, and he claims they are blocking all kinds of cool websites at his school.  Is there a way, using proxies, he would be able to get around this? (and possibly using an ubuntu live cd? he he)
[05:53] <sethk> tony_, it can be done, but it requires a server out on the net to serve as his proxy, and it's not trivial to set up.
[05:53] <tony_> He says that he can get to one website using the ssl or http proxy under the advanced>netowork settings in firefox
[05:54] <tony_> seth --> I have a sever currently only being used as a ssh server, could I set it up for him
[05:54] <sethk> tony_, well, that's nice, as long as he only wants to get to one web site.  :)
[05:54] <tony_> He is, obviously, mainly hoping to be able to view facebook and digg for hours on end
[05:55] <amazen720> scguy318: synaptic manager says I have this "linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS> generic {<IP_ADDRESS>.46} (installed version) Linux Kernel Image for version 2.6.22. on x86/x86_64" already installed. what do I do from here?
[05:55] <sethk> tony_, You would have to know more details about what they are blocking.
[05:55] <Chu> scguy318: That worked quite well! Thank you.
[05:55] <scguy318> Chu: np
[05:56] <sethk> tony_, sometimes they are looking at port 80 and ignoring everything else, which makes things easy.  However, often non-standard ports are simply blocked, which makes things more difficult.
[05:56] <sethk> tony_, one very simply thing is for him to connect to your ssh server using   ssh -X, then run a browser on your web server with the display pointed to his workstation.
[05:56] <sethk> tony_, the ports for this may be blocked, and it uses a lot of bandwidth, but it's worth a try.
[05:56] <tony_> ok, that would work even if xorg isn't installed on the server
[05:56] <amazen720> scguy318: synaptic manager says I have this "linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS> generic {<IP_ADDRESS>.46} (installed version) Linux Kernel Image for version 2.6.22. on x86/x86_64" already installed. what do I do from here?
[05:57] <sethk> tony_, you only need the X client libraries on the server.  No need for most of xorg.
[05:57] <tony_> is there a way to 'apt-get' those?
[05:57] <Veenified> Can anyone help me get Azureus to run? It will run and completely open but then immediately close. I just installed it.
[05:57] <sethk> tony_, that sounds odd, but remember, in X, the server runs on the client machine, and v.v.
[05:58] <scguy318> winux: while you wait
[05:58] <sethk> tony_, sure, but the odds are they are already there.  If you have the    xterm    utility, then things you need are already installed.
[05:58] <novacheck> can anyone help me with partitioning ubuntu
[05:58] <winux> scguy318: yes?
[05:58] <scguy318> winux: are you running Gutsy?
[05:58] <winux> scguy318: yes
[05:58] <scguy318> winux: do you have some sort of removable storage device at hand?
[05:58] <winux> scguy318: a flash drive
[05:58] <tony_> ok, so I can make sure xterm is installed on the server, and firefox
[05:58] <novacheck> basically i want to part a 40 GB drive notebook
[05:58] <scguy318> winux: k
[05:58] <novacheck> with home boot swap and whatever else i want
[05:58] <tony_> does xp have an ssh client by default?
[05:59] <Flannel> tony_: no.  But PuTTy is an awesome one
[05:59] <scguy318> winux: http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9_1.43-1ubuntu2_i386.deb
[05:59] <scguy318> winux: and
[05:59] <aempirei> has anyone noticed that screen doesnt display tons of characters incorrectly with the newest ubuntu install
[05:59] <tony_> correct, how would he forward firefox through putty?
[05:59] <scguy318> winux: http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-common_1.43-1ubuntu2_all.deb
[05:59] <scguy318> winux: transfer those to your flash drive
[05:59] <aempirei> incorrectly/correctly
[05:59] <winux> scguy318: done
[05:59] <scguy318> winux: I'm trying to find an XP driver for your wireless chipset
[05:59] <Veenified> Can anyone help me get Azureus to run? It will run and completely open but then immediately close. I just installed it.
[05:59] <Flannel> aempirei: Did you start it with -U?
[05:59] <joshua__> is there a program where i can sync songs to my zune on linux... all im finding is running linux on the zune
[05:59] <aempirei> whats -U
[06:00] <Flannel> aempirei: starts it with unicode support
[06:00] <aempirei> ill try that
[06:00] <aempirei> thanks
[06:00] <amazen720> scguy318: synaptic manager says I have this "linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS> generic {<IP_ADDRESS>.46} (installed version) Linux Kernel Image for version 2.6.22. on x86/x86_64" already installed. what do I do from here?
[06:00] <scguy318> amazen720: just boot to it
[06:00] <scguy318> amazen720: in GRUB
[06:00] <aempirei> ok i just tried that
[06:01] <aempirei> but now the line drawing chars dont show up right
[06:01] <scguy318> amazen720: reboot and boot to the generic kernel
[06:01] <Flannel> aempirei: make sure your terminal is also set to support unicode
[06:01] <amazen720> okay
[06:01] <aempirei> it is
[06:02] <aempirei> well this is sort of better tho
[06:02] <scguy318> winux: do you know anything at all about what chipset your wireless device is?
[06:02] <scguy318> winux: I cannot identify from lspci output
[06:03] <Flannel> aempirei: If it truely is displaying them incorrectly, double check to make sure every step supports unicode (program, screen, ssh, terminal), then file a bug report
[06:03] <winux> scguy318: darn, so internet not an option?
[06:03] <scguy318> winux: i never said that
[06:03] <Flannel> aempirei: Oh, try doing it outside of screen (just program, ssh, terminal) to verify that its screen and not something else
[06:03] <scguy318> winux: I said I couldn't immediately figure out what chipset your wireless device is, so I'm asking if you know :)
[06:03] <tony_> ** Sethk--> I installed firefox and xterm on my server, and then, for kicks, I tried running ssh -X username@ipaddress firefox
[06:03] <aempirei> it works perfectly outside of screen
[06:03] <aempirei> all line drawing is fine
[06:03] <winux> scguy318: ah, hmm, let me see if the box says anything
[06:04] <tony_> Sethk--> and it claimed Gtk-Warning: cannot open display
[06:04] <Flannel> aempirei: sounds like a bug then
[06:04] <SkareCrow> I am having some networking issues. Ever since I added a gigabit NIC to run a crossover to my server, my interfaces have never automatically went up. I have to manually go and use ifup to get them up. After I install Ubuntu, I have to go in and add the interfaces to my /etc/networking config and ifup... Anyone have any idea on what I can do to solve this issue?
[06:04] <Tarkus> anyone here use glade? im trying to figure out how to test out the application, so it actually makes a new window and launches the app.. any idea?
[06:05] <ganjist> i have a problem with my ganja on the gnome
[06:05] <Vibys> winux: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/ is a good place for info on most wireless cards
[06:05] <ganjist> he is taking anything
[06:05] <SkareCrow> It takes Windows XP Pro a few minutes to do it too. My Debian server does it just fine. Identical setup only difference is Ubuntu on this machine.
[06:05] <joshua__> i cant install VMware. because of "amd64"
[06:05] <joshua__> how can i fix this
[06:06] <lugolyn> hello
[06:06] <roger_> hiya
[06:06] <joshua__> i cant install VMware. because of "amd64"
[06:06] <joshua__> i cant install VMware. because of "amd64"
[06:07] <joshua__> how can i fix this
[06:07] <joshua__> sry about  the double post
[06:07] <novacheck> compile it maybe
[06:07] <novacheck> are you trying from add/remove or synaptic
[06:07] <bullgard4> After upgrading from Feisty to Gutsy I have no LAN access any more. ifconfig does not show an lo entry. How to troubleshoot?
[06:07] <joshua__> yes
[06:07] <smmagic> joshua__: Do not repeat the same question over and over, if someone knows the answer they will tell you. also try #VMware
[06:07] <novacheck> try rebooting hit ESC and select the older kernel
[06:08] <sethk> bullgard4, what does     ifconfig -a      show?
[06:08] <novacheck> download vmware from their site the .tar.gz file
[06:08] <novacheck> then tar -zxf filename
[06:08] <Frogzoo_> bullgard4: turn off iptables if you're using it - also check dmesg for nic detection
[06:08] <novacheck> then sudo ./vmware install.pl or something like that
[06:08] <SkareCrow> I also had a question about eth0. I have no clue what it is. eth1 is my gigabit NIC, and eth2 is my 10/100 NIC, but eth0 is just there...
[06:09] <scguy318> winux: looks like you're Realtek, lemme find somewhere else with rtl8187
[06:09] <scguy318> winux: out of curiosity, if you type iwconfig, what happens?
[06:09] <tony_> Does anyone know much about forwarding x programs through ssh?
[06:09] <scguy318> winux: and you did try the Network Manager right? :P
[06:09] <Frogzoo_> SkareCrow: there won't be eth0 there without a real interface - maybe lspci will show it?
[06:09] <bullgard4> sethk: ifconfig -a shows eth0 (without an IP address), eth0:avah and lo.
[06:09] <tony_> I have tried ssh -X blah blah firefox, without much luck
[06:09] <winux> scguy318: yes on the managar, loading vista to see if i can find out info about the wifi card.. ill try iwconfig in one sec
[06:10] <SkareCrow> Ahh, I see what it is. Weird.
[06:10] <Vibys> sethk: "man ifconfig" will tell you what you need to know
[06:10] <SkareCrow> Frogzoo_: I think its my onboard, but I thought I disabled that...
[06:10] <ups> tony: try export DISPLAY=localhost:0.0 firforx&
[06:10] <Frogzoo_> SkareCrow: well apparently not
[06:10] <SkareCrow> Frogzoo_: Never mind... I redid my bios, forgot to turn that off. I wonder if turning it off would fix my other problem.
[06:10] <bullgard4> Frogzoo_: I do not use iptables. --  I will check dmesg for nic detection.
[06:10] <scguy318> winux: k, I figured out that iwas a Realtek RTL8187
[06:10] <scguy318> winux: *it
[06:11] <SkareCrow> Frogzoo_: Did you get my other question?
[06:11] <Frogzoo_> nope
[06:11] <winux> scguy318L ok cool
[06:11] <hangthedj> how do you change the background for the splash screen in ubuntu?
[06:12] <SkareCrow> Frogzoo_: My other interfaces will not go up automatically. I have to manually ifup them... After a new install I have to add them to my /etc/networking/interfaces config in order to use them.
[06:12] <winux> scguy318: so a driver is needed?
[06:12] <DisabledDuck> how do i burn mds files?
[06:12] <scguy318> winux: yes, I figure that the Vista drivers for the wireless might work
[06:12] <scguy318> winux: ftp://ftp.gateway.com/pub/hardware_support/drivers/win_vista/network/D20070-002-001.exe
[06:12] <Frogzoo_> SkareCrow: well if interfaces is correct after the upgrade, where's the problem?
[06:12] <tony_> --- ups* It responded [1]+ Done, although firefox did not start
[06:12] <scguy318> winux: extract the VistaX86 folder to your flash drive
[06:12] <Noiano> hello
[06:13] <novacheck> can anyone recommend a way to partition my drive i want to reinstall
[06:13] <SkareCrow> Frogzoo_: I have my /etc/network/interfaces set up, but I still have to manually ifup them
[06:13] <Tarkus> does any here use glade/python??
[06:13] <Noiano> how can I send an EOF using keyboard?
[06:13] <Frogzoo_> SkareCrow: you probly need 'auto eth1' or similiar in there
[06:13] <SkareCrow> Frogzoo_: I might be missing something in my config
[06:13] <ups> tony: do you have X server running on local machine?
[06:13] <novacheck> test
[06:13] <SkareCrow> Frogzoo_: That just hit me too... That is what I was thinking of. :P
[06:13] <scguy318> Noiano: isn't that like Ctrl+D?
[06:13] <DisabledDuck> does anyone know how to burn mds files in linux?
[06:14] <SkareCrow> Frogzoo_: All this time and until I actually think about my config do I actually realize what the problem is.
[06:14] <riotkittie> whats an .mds
[06:14] <Frogzoo_> DisabledDuck: mds? not mdf??
[06:14] <SkareCrow> Frogzoo_: Well thanks, even though it hit me right before you answered, without you I dought I would have actually thought about it. :) Thanks for the help.
[06:14] <DisabledDuck> frogzoo_ same difference :D
[06:14] <Noiano> sorry my connection died
[06:14] <winux> scguy318: yep realtek shows up in vista as well, where shall i transfer the VistaX86 once in linux?
[06:14] <tony_> ups --> no xorg is not installed, but I was told just having the libs that come with xterm would be enough
[06:15] <Frogzoo_> DisabledDuck: mdf2iso
[06:15] <scguy318> Noiano: isn't that like Ctrl+D?
[06:15] <tony_> xorg is not installed on the server, it is installed on the machine I am sshing from
[06:15] <Noiano> scguy318, I will try nod
[06:15] <DisabledDuck> frogzoo_ i can't convert the image, i have to keep it in it's current format
[06:15] <Noiano> now
[06:15] <amirman> anyone know a good linux distro, good for kids, and will run on a 256 MB 400 MHz machine
[06:15] <scguy318> winux: after you've extracted the VistaX86 contents to your flash drive
[06:15] <SkareCrow> Frogzoo_: It is also possible to change the name of the interfaces. For example... From eth2 to eth1 and eth2 to eth1.. Do you know how to do this? I have done it once, but forgot what I did.
[06:15] <scguy318> winux: just lay it on your Desktop
[06:15] <winux> scguy318: yes
[06:15] <winux> scguy318: ok
[06:15] <scguy318> winux: the debs and driver files
[06:15] <Frogzoo_> DisabledDuck: you probly want cdemu then, you'll need to compile it
[06:16] <Frogzoo_> SkareCrow: /etc/iftab
[06:16] <ups> tony: I think you need to run xserver on local machine, then you can get remote X program displayed locally
[06:16] <SkareCrow> Thank you.
[06:16] <Noiano> scguy318, yes, it is ctrl+d thanks
[06:16] <winux> scguy318: then the wireless interface should appear?
[06:16] <scguy318> winux: then we setup ndiswrapper and make that nice wireless work
[06:16] <SkareCrow> Frogzoo_: The file doesn't exist. Do I have to create it? If so I will just look up the format.
[06:17] <Noiano> scguy318, do you know how to send any ascii char? in windows i used to do ALT+asciCode...
[06:17] <amirman> edubuntu just fucked up this machine and now it wont boot
[06:17] <Frogzoo_> SkareCrow: man iftab
[06:17] <amirman> sweeeeeeeeet
[06:17] <punsad> anyone know if there's an editor like 'crimson editor' for linux?
[06:17] <SkareCrow> Frogzoo_: Thanks
[06:17] <tony_> ok ups, how much of a performance hit will a server (athlon 900Mhz, 192mb of ram) take having to run xorg?
[06:17] <SkareCrow> Frogzoo_: No man for it.
[06:17] <SkareCrow> Frogzoo_: I just looked it up on google. I will read that.
[06:17] <scguy318> Noiano: im clueless on that :P
[06:17] <Noiano> scguy318, I see :P
[06:18] <punsad> amirman: sounds like a hardware problem
[06:18] <amirman> yeah the hardware is OLD
[06:18] <sethk> tony_, only memory, if nobody is using it as a head.  But, note, you do _not_ need to run xorg for the server to act as I described.
[06:18] <punsad> tony_: what sort of load does the server experience normally?
[06:18] <Frogzoo_> tony_: that servers already underpowered - just don't run x
[06:18] <Noiano> scguy318, knowing EOF is good enough for the time being :)
[06:19] <tony_> I agree Frogz, I'm just trying to forward x programs through ssh
[06:19] <ups> tony: I am not sure, xorg took about 200mb on my machine
[06:19] <scguy318> winux: report when complete, then we'll proceed
[06:19] <punsad> amirman: I would try to isolate the problem.  THere's a few different reasons that a computer wouldn't boot
[06:19] <LordC> weird program here
[06:19] <sethk> tony_, X does _not_ need to be running.  All you need are the X client shared libraries, and those are almost certainly already in place.
[06:19] <bullgard4> Frogzoo_: dmesg reports: "8139cp 0000:00:09.0 This (id 10ec:8139 rev 10) is not an 8139C+ compatible chip; 8139cp 0000:00:09.0: Try the "8139too" driver instead; 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.28; ...; eth0: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D';...;eth0:link down."
[06:19] <sethk> tony_, if not, you can use apt-get or synaptic to install _only_ the client libraries.
[06:19] <Frogzoo_> tony_: you don't need x running on the server if you're forwarding
[06:20] <sethk> tony_, if nobody is running an X app on the server, the overhead is _zero_
[06:20] <punsad> tony_: most servers done even have displays.  just ssh in
[06:20] <winux> scguy318: ok on desktop
[06:20] <LordC> In 7.04 on my laptop next to me I can click 'Places>Network>Windows Network' and see mshome and workgroup, and the PCs within them
[06:20] <Optimus55> ques: i booted with 7.10 live cd because i wanted to upgrade, but i realised the usb ports weren't working. if i install to disk will they start working again or am i wishing upon pixy dust?
[06:20] <LordC> but on this 7.10 when i click ' Windows Network' i see nothing
[06:20] <scguy318> winux: alright, please install the ndiswrapper-common package, then the ndiswrapper-utils package
[06:20] <DisabledDuck> anybody know how to get vmware on Ubuntu?
[06:20] <scguy318> winux: double-click should be sufficient
[06:20] <subverso> hello everyone
[06:20] <sethk> punsad, he's going to ssh -X in.  The discussion is about what's necessary on the server to support ssh -X
[06:20] <tony_> Seth --> I was just having some trouble, I installed xterm and firefox, then I just ssh -X blahblah firefox and I get a gtk-warning, cannot open display
[06:20] <subverso> !
[06:20] <winux> scguy318: k
[06:20] <punsad> DisabledDuck: apt-get install vmware (or something like that)
[06:21] <subverso> does anyone had used trickle and amule without problem?
[06:21] <sethk> tony_, probably ssh X forwarding is off.  It's off by default.  You turn it on in ... (looking)
[06:21] <tony_> I found the ssh config file, and I made sure it was turned on
[06:21] <tony_> it was at ... (looking)
[06:21] <Goatz> Should tasksel install lamp-server, take quite a while at 100%?
[06:21] <sethk> tony_, /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[06:21] <sethk> tony_, if you changed the setting, you need to restart sshd
[06:22] <tony_> the setting was already set to on
[06:22] <tony_> I did not need to change it
[06:22] <punsad> Goatz: you mean the progress bar is already at 100%
[06:22] <Frogzoo_> sethk: the -X flag to ssh
[06:22] <sethk> tony_, do this.  Do  ssh -X whatever     to get a terminal window.  Then do    echo $DISPLAY     and tell us what the setting is.
[06:22] <scguy318> winux: report when complete
[06:22] <tony_> sure thing.. hold on
[06:22] <sethk> Frogzoo_, yes, I know, however X11Forwarding must be on in /etc/ssh/sshd_config or -X is ignored
[06:22] <tony_> --> localhost:0.0
[06:23] <novacheck> how big should the / partition be if your HDD is 40 GB
[06:23] <winux> scguy318: installed
[06:23] <scguy318> novacheck: maybe 5 GB?
[06:23] <Goatz> punsad yes, and htop shows I have 4xmysqld_safe pegging out my cpu
[06:23] <scguy318> novacheck: rest you could leave to /home
[06:23] <sethk> tony_, that's not correct.  What is (in sshd_config) the setting of X11DisplayOffset?
[06:23] <scguy318> winux: k
[06:23] <scguy318> winux: fire up a Terminal
[06:23] <novacheck> cool
[06:23] <novacheck> swap or no swap part
[06:23] <scguy318> winux: where is the INF driver file located?
[06:24] <Frogzoo_> novacheck: the answer depens on if you plan to have separate partitions for /home /var etc
[06:24] <tony_> x11DisplayOffset 10 is the value
[06:24] <novacheck> well just seperate home basically
[06:24] <winux> scguy318: 1 sec
[06:24] <sethk> tony_, then the display should be set to    localhost:11.0
[06:24] <sethk> tony_, so something is not quite right.
[06:24] <tony_> well, someone earlier had me do this command {searching}
[06:25] <sethk> tony_, try doing ssh -X whatever while you are already ssh'd in to whatever (whatever being the name or ip of the server)
[06:25] <tony_> export DISPLAY=localhost:0.0
[06:25] <sethk> tony_, can't do that.  It will override the automatic setting
[06:25] <tony_> well, I did it... :-(
[06:25] <panayiotis> hi..can anyone help me install java??
[06:25] <sethk> tony_, if you have that in a .bashrc or some similar file, take it out.
[06:25] <Frogzoo_> novacheck: 5gig might get painful if you tend to install everying, 8 gig should be plenty
[06:25] <tony_> no, I just ran the command once
[06:26] <scguy318> winux: report when ready
[06:26] <Gotenks_> Trying to add a patch from http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6971 the attachment "Hack to force mouse warping" and I have no idea how to add it to my configuration.  I am on Gutsy with latest supported version of wine
[06:26] <Cypher> my wifi keeps dropping is there a good ubuntu turtorial for wifi?
[06:26] <winux> scguy318: im guessing locate INF is not correct?
[06:26] <sethk> tony_, ok.  If you make a new connection to the server using ssh -X, what's is $DISPLAY?
[06:26] <scguy318> winux: i asked you where the inf file was, not to run locate inf :P
[06:26] <chuy> !wifi | Cypher
[06:26] <ubotu> Cypher: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:26] <scguy318> winux: locate is a fine command tho, simpler than the find command
[06:26] <Cypher> ty
[06:27] <sethk> tony_, Make completely sure it isn't in a .bashrc file or .bash_profile (assuming you run bash; I run zsh which is far superior  :)  ).
[06:27] <winux> scguy318: ah, how do i find its location?
[06:27] <scguy318> winux: okay, are the driver files all laid out on the Desktop, or are the driver files in a folder on the Desktop?
[06:27] <scguy318> winux: the essence of my question :P
[06:27] <sethk> tony_, because if ssh X forwarding is not working, $DISPLAY would be empty, not set to localhost:0.0
[06:27] <winux> scguy318: a folder on desktop
[06:27] <scguy318> winux: k
[06:27]  * DerangedDingo googles zsh
[06:27] <scguy318> winux: in terminal
[06:27] <scguy318> winux: sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/Desktop/VistaX86/*.inf
[06:27] <panayiotis> can anyone help me install java??
[06:28] <winux> scguy318: ok 1 sec
[06:28] <Frogzoo_> !java | panayiotis help here:
[06:28] <Cpudan80> !java | panayiotis
[06:28] <ubotu> panayiotis help here:: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[06:28] <ubotu> panayiotis: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[06:28] <scguy318> panayiotis: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[06:28] <tony_> ok seth, how do I check what bash I'm running, also, I know I didn't put that command into any .sh file
[06:28] <tony_> I didn't put it into any file, just ran it once cuz I was instructed
[06:28] <panayiotis> frogzoo: where i can downliad it?
[06:29] <Frogzoo_> panayiotis: you need to enable the multiverse repo
[06:29] <scguy318> winux: tell me what happens
[06:29] <tony_> also seth, in the file ssh_conf(not sshd_config) it says x11forwarding is turned off
[06:29] <panayiotis> frogzoo: how?
[06:29] <sethk> tony_, I don't think that matters, but let me check.
[06:29] <Frogzoo_> !multiverse | panayiotis
[06:29] <ubotu> panayiotis: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:29] <sethk> tony_, well, it does matter if you are using ssh -X from the server to the server, so I take it back.
[06:29] <Cpudan80> !multiverse | panayiotis
[06:29] <bullgard4> Frogzoo_: dmesg reports: "8139cp 0000:00:09.0 This (id 10ec:8139 rev 10) is not an 8139C+ compatible chip; 8139cp 0000:00:09.0: Try the "8139too" driver instead; 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.28; ...; eth0: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D';...;eth0:link down."
[06:30] <LordC> Having issues accessing Windows shares via smb:///, anyone know about this?
[06:30] <sethk> tony_, but I have X forwarding working on two servers where X forwarding is enabled in sshd_config, but not ssh_config.
[06:30] <tony_> hmm, well, that is not my goal, so I will leave it off
[06:30] <sethk> tony_, of course it's not the goal, but it may help for testing purposes.  Where are you running the ssh -X ?
[06:31] <scguy318> winux: status?
[06:31] <tony_> on a local ubuntu desktop machine, with fluxbox as my window manager, from xterm
[06:31] <scguy318> winux: your wireless driver wont work yet :P
[06:31] <Frogzoo_> bullgard4: try adding "blacklist 8139cp" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist & reboot
[06:31] <winux> scguy318: yup, installed
[06:31] <sethk> tony_, ok, check the ssh_config on _that_ box.
[06:31] <winux> scguy318: with the wrapper
[06:32] <scguy318> winux: please type ndiswrapper -l
[06:32] <slvmchn> how can i change it so sudo doesn't ask for a password?
[06:32] <tony_> and should I make sure X11 fowarding is on on 'this' box
[06:32] <Cpudan80> slvmchn: not a good idea
[06:32] <Cpudan80> slvmchn: dont do it
[06:32] <bullgard4> Frogzoo_: I will do what you are advising.
[06:32] <slvmchn> well i don't want to run ALL commands as root/superuser
[06:32] <winux> scguy318: netrtuw: driver installed
[06:32] <slvmchn> only the ones i put in as sudo
[06:32] <sethk> tony_, right.  the box where you run ssh needs it enabled in ssh_config.  The place where sshd is running needs it enabled in sshd_config
[06:32] <scguy318> winux: what alternate driver does it mention
[06:33] <jeyk1982> hi
[06:33] <winux> scguy318: that was ndiswrapper -l 's only message
[06:33] <tony_> ok, well fowarding off is commented out, so I will change that, will I need to restart ssh on the client box?
[06:33] <sethk> tony_, I vaguely remember that there was something I needed to do in addition to enabling forwarding in sshd_config.  I'm trying to remember what.  I could
[06:33] <slvmchn> well cpudan80 i'm running xfce and there's a panel plugin called Valve which lets me have an xterm prompt on my top panel... only i can't run ANY 'sudo' commands because there's no actual window, it can't cue me for a password
[06:33] <scguy318> winux: k
[06:33] <jeyk1982> anyone installed dual boot on raid?
[06:33] <scguy318> slvmchn: EDITOR=gedit sudo visudo
[06:33] <sethk> tony_, You'll need to run ssh -X again, but that's all, AFAIK
[06:33] <scguy318> slvmchn: then read the comments
[06:34] <scguy318> winux: k
[06:34] <slvmchn> just type that in xterm? ok scguy318 will try that
[06:34] <scguy318> slvmchn: yeah, it'll nicely open gedit for you
[06:34] <scguy318> winux: when u ran the sudo ndiswrapper -i command, did it say anything?
[06:34] <scguy318> winux: just wanna check
[06:34] <scguy318> winux: if not, now do
[06:34] <jeyk1982> ?
[06:35] <scguy318> winux: gksudo gedit /etc/modules
[06:35] <tony_> What does AFAIK mean?
[06:35] <slvmchn> Cpudan80, why isn't disabling sudo password a good idea?
[06:35] <scguy318> tony_: as far as I know
[06:35] <tony_> lol thanks guys
[06:35] <scguy318> winux: make a new line in the file, put ndiswrapper, save
[06:35] <sethk> slvmchn, makes the huge gaping security hole in the ubuntu sudo configuration even worse.
[06:35] <scguy318> winux: then sudo modprobe ndiswrapper and pastebin the output of dmesg | tail
[06:35] <Cpudan80> slvmchn: its not a good idea because presumably you want to know when something is about to run as root
[06:36] <jeyk1982> anyone installed dual boot on raid?
[06:36] <tony_> Alright, well, I changed the client's ssh_config file, and re ssh'd into the machine, and ran firefox, however, still a gtk warning:cannot open display
[06:36] <sethk> Cpudan80, disabling the password has nothing to do with sudo logging.
[06:36] <tony_> using -X of course
[06:36] <sethk> tony_, what's $DISPLAY  ?
[06:36] <tony_> on the server or client?
[06:36] <sethk> tony_, also, make sure ssh is not aliased.
[06:36] <sethk> tony_, the window to which you connected with ssh -X
[06:36] <Cpudan80> sethk: yes, but dont you think that the last ditch prompt might stop you from doing something really bad?
[06:36] <noob69> hello everyone
[06:37] <sethk> tony_, you can eliminate any aliases by using    \ssh     instead of   ssh
[06:37] <Frogzoo_> jeyk1982: you can boot a linux raid partition from grub, and have a separate windows partition - but having both windows & linux on the same raid isn't really happening
[06:37] <sethk> Cpudan80, If I typed sudo, I intended to do something as root, no?
[06:37] <UndertakerX2> Do fat32 restrictions still apply on ext3 file systems?
[06:37] <sethk> UndertakerX2, no, every file system is different.
[06:37] <Cpudan80> sethk: no password = no room for error
[06:37] <winux> scguy318: ok will do, and i got a message from the previous -i, installing ntrtuw
[06:37] <Frogzoo_> UndertakerX2: of course not
[06:37] <jeyk1982> same raid dift partitions
[06:37] <scguy318> winux: good
[06:37] <tony_> ok, echo DISPLAY on the client box gives :0.0
[06:37] <Cpudan80> sethk: at least with the prompt you can back out of it
[06:38] <slvmchn> how much ram can 32-bit ubuntu detect?
[06:38] <jeyk1982> i cant get grub to boot
[06:38] <slvmchn> or utitilze without hacks
[06:38] <noob69> if i install the ubuntu server is it hard to install the gnome interface
[06:38] <noob69> on the server
[06:38] <sethk> Cpudan80, the entry of the password quickly becomes automatically, and any pause associated with it disappears within a few hours.
[06:38] <jeyk1982> it goes  to window
[06:38] <scguy318> slvmchn: max like 4 GB I think
[06:38] <Frogzoo_> jeyk1982: there's no raid solution that's supported well under both linux & windows
[06:38] <sethk> Cpudan80, besides, if you type sudo, you are supposed to know what you are sudoing  :)
[06:38] <UndertakerX2> well the reason i ask i fat32 is limited to files under 4GB or so if i recall corectley, does thsi apply to ext3 as well?
[06:38] <scguy318> UnderatkerX2: no
[06:38] <Cpudan80> slvmchn: 4 GBs IIRC
[06:38] <Frogzoo_> jeyk1982: well, not unless you have very expensive hardware raid
[06:38] <tony_> ok, this time, on the server machine, echo $DISPLAY returned nothing
[06:38] <slvmchn> scguy318, nice thanks, i have 2.5 gigs, just wanted to make sure it'd detect it all (i'm on x86_64 but some of my apps aren't working so i have to downgrade to x86)
[06:38] <slvmchn> i'l try 64-bit in a year or two when it's better supported
[06:38] <winux> scguy318: done
[06:39] <jeyk1982> ive got some junk
[06:39] <Cpudan80> Cpudan80: 4 GBs is the max for 32 bit archs
[06:39] <jeyk1982> gimme a break
[06:39] <UndertakerX2> thanks SC
[06:39] <scguy318> winux: please pastebin the output of dmesg | tail
[06:39] <winux> ah
[06:39] <Cpudan80> slvmchn: 2.5 should go no problem
[06:39] <Frogzoo_> jeyk1982: best bet is linux s/w raid & dual boot windows separately
[06:39] <jeyk1982> i just need to get grub booting
[06:39] <scguy318> UndertakerX2: according to Wikipedia the max file size is 16 GB - 2 TB
[06:40] <scguy318> UndertakerX2: on ext3
[06:40] <jeyk1982> indeed i did that
[06:40] <UndertakerX2> How do i find out what kind of memory bugger I have?
[06:40] <scguy318> UndertakerX2: use memtest86+
[06:40] <UndertakerX2> ah ok thanks again sc :)
[06:40] <UndertakerX2> how long does that usually take?
 --> Also, using \ssh didn't seem to improve anything
[06:40] <sethk> UndertakerX2, a thorough test takes several hours.
[06:40] <jeyk1982> i just cant boot off grub, its on the mbr
[06:40] <bolko7> !list spl
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about list spl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:41] <scguy318> winux: have you pastebinned it yet?
[06:41] <sethk> UndertakerX2, I use the latest version from the memtest86 site.  All recent versions are slow.  Run it overnight.  You can find memory errors quickly.
[06:41] <UndertakerX2> and will i need to apply the results of those tests myself or will the test correct the settings itself?
[06:41] <tony_> seth, also, on the server now, when I echod display, nothing showed up at all
[06:41] <scguy318> UndertakerX2: if memory has issues, you'll have to replace it :)
[06:42] <scguy318> UndertakerX2: its a hardware thing
[06:42] <sethk> tony_, ok, then forwarding is not enabled.  Let me look at my box for a moment, see if I can remember the second step.
[06:42] <scguy318> UndertakerX2: isolating a memory module is a way to be definitive about where a defect lies
[06:42] <scguy318> winux: have you pastebined?
[06:42] <sethk> tony_, if there is any chance that sshd_config was modified by someone without restarting sshd, then restart sshd
[06:42] <tony_> ok, I'm gunna need help restarted ssh....
[06:42] <tony_> sorry
[06:43] <tony_> *restarting
[06:43] <UndertakerX2> ah ok, well my main stick is a 1GB G Skill just under a year old so it better be good still
[06:43] <sethk> tony_, /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[06:43] <sethk> tony_, as root, naturally (use sudo)
[06:43] <winux> scguy318: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43631/
[06:43] <tony_> should have guessed, same as samba
[06:43] <UndertakerX2> but also run a 250MB stick that came stock
[06:44] <scguy318> winux: :D k
[06:44] <scguy318> winux: try using Network Manager, see if works
[06:44] <scguy318> winux: if not reboot
[06:44] <winux> kk
[06:44] <tony_> ... display warning.... still
[06:44] <sethk> UndertakerX2, are they both the same speed?  Theoretically, you can mix slower and quicker memory, but I've found it never really works.
[06:44] <tony_> --> I exited the server and reconnected through ssh, after the restart
[06:45] <UndertakerX2> not sure
[06:45] <sethk> tony_, i'm looking at what else is needed, hold on a moment
[06:45] <scguy318> winux: oh, and also pastebin tail /var/log/syslog while you're at it
[06:45] <tony_> thanks for all your help seth
[06:45] <UndertakerX2> should i use Download - Linux Memtest86 v3.3 Source and binary Package i assume?
[06:45] <xion`os2k> hey guys, can anyone help me out with some access problems with proftpd?
[06:46] <tony_> hey guys, anyone know how to private message in irssi?
[06:46] <bullgard5> Frogzoo_: I have blacklisted as you advised. I rebooted. lsmod still shows 8139too and 8139cp.
[06:46] <tony_> i know its the /msg command
[06:46] <doofy`> whats the format of an evolution csv file? I cant find the documentation anywhere
[06:46] <tony_> but after that
[06:47] <Frogzoo_> bullgard5: odd, should work, but I have to go
[06:47] <sethk> tony_, the nick, I think
[06:47] <sethk> tony_, can you paste your sshd_config on the paste web site?
[06:47] <tony_> the paste website (ubuntuforums?)
[06:48] <winux> scguy318: System -> Administration -> Network , No new interfacea
[06:48] <winux> interfaces
[06:48] <sethk> tony_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:48] <winux> scguy318: after reboot
[06:48] <chetnick> My screen is just black while my system is loading, until i get to the login screen, than again black until system start up.. (Gutsy)
[06:48] <scguy318> winux: can you pastebin dmesg | tail and tail /var/log/syslog
[06:49] <scguy318> winux: you did add ndiswrapper to /etc/modules?
[06:50] <bullgard5> In /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist I added a line "blacklist 8139cp". I rebooted. lsmod still shows an entry '8139cp'. Why?
[06:50] <scguy318> bullgard5: sudo modprobe -r 8139cp
[06:51] <scguy318> bullgard5: just editing blacklist wont remove it from memory
[06:51] <scguy318> bullgard5: when you restart it should be prevented from loading but right now
[06:51] <scguy318> bullgard5: still in memory
[06:52] <chetnick> My screen is just black while my system is loading, until i get to the login screen, than again black until system start up.. (Gutsy) Any way to change that?
[06:52] <bullgard5> scguy318: I rebooted. I do not understand your argument. Say it in other words, please.
[06:52] <UndertakerX2> whats a good iso burning software for ISO
[06:52] <UndertakerX2> for ubuntu*
[06:52] <tony_> seth --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43632/
[06:53] <scguy318> bullgard5: disregard, mm
[06:53] <DerangedDingo> UndertakerX2: Nautilus can burn ISO's to CD's
[06:53] <winux> scguy318: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43633/
[06:53] <UndertakerX2> thanks deranged
[06:53] <sethk> tony_, checking
[06:54] <bullgard5> scguy318: Is 'mm' an abbreviation for 'my mistake'? Or for what?
[06:54] <scguy318> bullgard5: mm, might have to blacklist other modules besides 8139cp
[06:54] <kane77> there should be something like "use defaults and don't ask" option when upgrading.. I let it run at night and came in the morning and it actually stopped right at the start asking something about apache...
[06:54] <scguy318> bullgard5: what those other modules are not sure
[06:55] <scguy318> bullgard5: 8139too
[06:55] <scguy318> winux: i asked for tail /var/log/syslog :P
[06:55] <DerangedDingo> UndertakerX2: well, it's, sort of nautilus, i can't remember. i just inserted a blank CD. when it prompts you about what type of CD you wanna make, choose data, and then just drag in the files. if it's only a single ISO, choose 'burn CD from image' or however that one is phrased
[06:55] <compu73rg33k> so I've set up luks encryption on my partitions. When I boot, it prompts me for my password for my root partition. I put it in and the system continues to boot up. However it doesn't ask for the password for my /home partition, and therefore that partition isnt' being opened at boot.
[06:56] <scguy318> winux: dmesg prints the kernel ring buffer
[06:56] <winux> scguy318: ops, one sec
[06:56] <andres08> I  Burned two  DVDs of Ubuntu 7.10, taste with DVD+R and DVD-R, I evidence of md5  not mark mistake after burning , At "Check CD for Defects" both has not mistake, but if from terminal write "md5sum / dev / dvd /" on the DVD-R are Ok, but in the DVD + R, I get a different  md5 .... Somebody knows Why is diferrent the sum? Thankyou
[06:56] <simonova> what's the command line to find my external ip address?
[06:57] <scguy318> simonova: unsure, though you could visit a site like whatismyipaddress.com
[06:57] <tony_> --> simonova, not sure about command, but you can easily type "whats my ip" into google to find out, several websites will work
[06:57] <simonova> I'm trying to find it for my server edition, google a little iffy of an option
[06:57] <simonova> as is any website
[06:58] <tony_> good point simonova
[06:58] <sethk> tony_, simonova,  one is http://whatismyipaddress.com
[06:58] <sethk> which is pretty easy to remember  :)
[06:58] <simonova> no way to look at a website
[06:59] <tony_> ok simnova, here is a way
[06:59] <winux> scguy318: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43634/
[06:59] <tony_> first, apt-get install wget grep sed
[06:59] <Radio1> auditmypc.com  does it all.
[06:59] <winux> scguy318: seems to show my usb drive after plugging it in
[06:59] <simonova> I found that already tony_, I wrote the program and didn't get an output
[06:59] <compu73rg33k> anyone know why the root partition would open but not home?
[06:59] <tony_> did you try just running the command?
[07:00] <tony_> without making a .sh file?
[07:00] <simonova> made the sh file
[07:00] <simonova> I got Your external ip is: (blank)
[07:00] <scguy318> winux: weird, how about just all of /var/log/syslog
[07:00] <scguy318> winux: and ndiswrapper -l
[07:01] <andres08> Why the diference MD5 betwen DVD-R and DVD+R?????
[07:01] <ghalib> hi
[07:01] <sethk> tony_, verify that ssh-agent is not running
[07:02] <tony_> on the server machine?
[07:02] <simonova> yes
[07:02] <ghalib> i am get problem while running the command sudo apt-get update...
[07:02] <ghalib> E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/htp could not be found.
[07:02] <ghalib> E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/htp could not be found.
[07:02] <ghalib> please help
[07:02] <andres08> b5d9aaa45af862b4c804530734216a15 *ubuntu-7.10-dvd-i386.iso
[07:02] <sethk> tony_, right
[07:03] <bullgard5> In /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist I added a line "blacklist 8139cp". I rebooted. lsmod still shows an entry '8139cp'. Why?
[07:03] <ghalib> i am running ubuntu 7.04
[07:03] <tony_> seth --> I do not see it anywhere in 'top'
[07:03] <winux> scguy318: ndiswrapper -l : "ntrtuw: driver installed"  .. do you want the entire /var/log/syslog/ ? its showing stuff from long before trying to add the wireless
[07:03] <sethk> tony_, do      ps aux | grep agent
[07:04] <scguy318> winux: yes
[07:04] <sethk> tony_, top doesn't necessarily show all processes
[07:04] <bullgard5> ghalib: Try updating using the Synaptic program
[07:04] <jeyk1982> Hi, I installed a dual boot Xp then Linux, on a sw raid. I installed Grub to the MBR but when  i boot i dont boot grub. i go straight to xp, Any Ideas
[07:05] <ghalib>  i am get problem while running the command sudo apt-get update  on ubuntu 7.04 following message comes out.
[07:05] <ghalib> E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/htp could not be found.
[07:05] <ghalib> E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/htp could not be found.
[07:05] <ghalib> help please...
[07:05] <ghalib> why not this command working..
[07:05] <simonova> if I install a regular ubuntu edition on my server comp, will it have the same external ip?
[07:06] <tony_> seth, the only thing that showed up, was grep agent
[07:06] <zinc> hello
[07:06] <sethk> tony_, ok, good.  To eliminate potential network issues, ssh to the server.  Enable forwarding in /etc/ssh/ssh_config.  Then, ssh -X from the server to the server.  (This works, I just tried it).  Then do     echo $DISPLAY
[07:07] <ghalib> yesterday i have install the vlc player with this command. sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-esd mozilla-plugin-vlc . it runs a single time. after i close it and want to run it again then it don't run.
[07:07] <tony_> ok, {working on it}
[07:07] <winux> scguy318: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43635/
[07:08] <jimmacdonald> so, I got a new monitor (22inch viewsonic) Ubuntu detects it, nvidia settings detects it and allows me to change the resolution. I have rerun dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but for some reason everytime I restart x (whether it's logging out or restarting?) I have to manually reset my resolution. Anyone got any ideas why my screen resolution won't stick?
[07:08] <zinc> if anyone is free I'd like to know how to connect 2 computers running ubuntu, over lan?
[07:09] <tony_> seth, ok that didn't work (same cannot open display error), which to me makes sense, because the server doesn't have xorg installed
[07:09] <sethk> jimmacdonald, wrong default.  One easy way to force it is, during configure, enable _only_ one resolution.  To do this you choose the "middle" level of configuration w.r.t. the monitor
[07:09] <sethk> tony_, no, actually, it doesn't make sense
[07:09] <tony_> and echo $DISPLAY shows null
[07:09] <sethk> tony_, $DISPLAY should be set, regardless of the rest.
[07:09] <sethk> tony_, you said xterm is on the box, right?
[07:09] <sethk> tony_, on the server
[07:10] <tony_> correct
[07:10] <tony_> xterm is already the newest version
[07:10] <scguy318> winux: hmm, I'm thinking that the driver I obtained doesn't appear to work, moment
[07:10] <cptcanuck> Is this the place to ask dumb questions?
[07:10] <tony_> yes it is cptcanuck
[07:11] <jimmacdonald> sethk: brb we will see if that fixed.
[07:11] <scguy318> cptcanuck: there are no dumb questions
[07:11] <tony_> seth, what should be displayed when I echo $DISPLAY
[07:11] <sethk> tony_, I'm repeating myself, but, on the server, and on the client where you are running xxh, ForwardX11 is set to yes in /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[07:11] <tony_> because before it showed local host, but now, nothing, I'm not sure what changed it
[07:11] <sethk> tony_, localhost:11.0
[07:11] <sethk> tony_, neither am I.
[07:12] <RandomUsr> can someone help me get transformers to play
[07:12] <sethk> tony_, did you try    \ssh -X         instead of ssh -X?     very unlikely to help, but I'm running out of ideas.
[07:12] <cptcanuck> After I did an update my video is blurry moving horizontally across my screen, this happens once it's done with the basic start up sequence, I think X is borked, any idea how to fix? I'm running 7.10 on a x86 architecture
[07:12] <tony_> yeah, I tried \ssh -X, is there a a way to set display to what it needs to be?
[07:13] <wib> hey, my neighbors want to share our dsl with us. if i say yes, will they be able to monitor what i am doing online, passwords and stuff?
[07:13] <sethk> tony_, sure, you can set DISPLAY, but I'm not sure it will help.  If forwarding were enabled, DISPLAY would already be set.  But you can try:    export DISPLAY=localhost:11.0
[07:13] <sethk> tony_, the 11 is because offset (in sshd_config) is set to 10
[07:13] <jimmacdonald> sethk: that didn't fix it ... when I logged back on it default to a lower resolution.
[07:13] <RandomUsr> wib, you have to know how to secure your computers/network
[07:14] <tony_> export "command not found"
[07:14] <sethk> jimmacdonald, check your X log file.  Sounds like there was an error and it's falling back to default resolutions.
[07:14] <wib> RandomUsr: where can i get info?
[07:14] <riotkittie> also, keep in mind that sharing your DSL may violate your contract with your provider, and get you penalized
[07:14] <jimmacdonald> sethk: where is that log located?
[07:14] <sethk> tony_, export is a shell built in.  Exactly like this:       export DISPLAY=localhost:11.0
[07:15] <jimmacdonald> sethk: /etc/X11
[07:15] <sethk> jimmacdonald, no, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:15] <cptcanuck>  is the X11 editable?
[07:15] <RandomUsr> wib, smallnetbuilder.com howstuffworks.com wikipedia.org   just to name a few
[07:15] <wib> RandomUsr: thx
[07:15] <RandomUsr> wib np
[07:16] <RandomUsr> my transformers dvd won´t play, someone help a nerd out
[07:16] <scguy318> winux: sry to ask again, but pastebin lspci again? :P
[07:17] <scguy318> winux: probably random, but make sure that wireless is powered on
[07:18] <fanfan> hello
[07:18] <Crankymonky> hey fanfan
[07:19] <scguy318> winux: still there?
[07:20] <winux> scguy318: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43636/
[07:20] <tony_> sethk , well, thanks for all your help, I'm not sure where to go from here now, I'm sure X11 is turned on on all 3 config files (ssh on both client and host, ssh_d on host), and i'm using the -X when logging in, but after I log back out and log back in, my display gets reset to null, and I'm not sure why, even though it doesn't work after exporting the correct value
[07:20] <winux> scguy318: my wireless doesnt have a power switch, but it is lighted indicating on or functional i presume
[07:21] <asra2003> ayuda
[07:21] <asra2003> por favor
[07:21] <asra2003> estoy desesperado
[07:21] <asra2003> please
[07:21] <scguy318> !es | asra2003
[07:21] <ubotu> asra2003: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[07:22] <scguy318> winux: thanks
[07:22] <scguy318> winux: ok, I know you're probably tired by now :P
[07:22] <cptcanuck> what is the command to do an entire system up date via command line?
[07:22] <scguy318> cptcanuck: sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:22] <tony_> sudo apt-get install upgrade
[07:22] <cptcanuck> THX
[07:22] <scguy318> winux: ftp://<IP_ADDRESS>/cn/wlan/2kxp-8187(1273).zip
[07:22] <asra2003> i have problems whit internet
[07:22] <jimmacdonald> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43637/
[07:22] <winux> scguy318: lol, well i want to get this thing working because i have a C program due next week :s
[07:23] <scguy318> winux: what C app?
[07:23] <scguy318> winux: i know something about C :P
[07:23] <sethk> tony_, yes, it isn't surprising that it doesn't work.  If it were working, DISPLAY wouldn't be empty in the first place.
[07:23] <winux> scguy318: extract ID3 tag data from mp3s
[07:23] <sethk> tony_, if I have any brilliant thoughts I'll let you know.  :)
[07:23] <winux> scguy318: i just want to use DDD and the web from home
[07:24] <scguy318> winux: ah
[07:24] <luddite> yoyoy, what suggestions do you all have for a newb that wants to create a custom search engine or run a private one
[07:24] <tony_> seth, thanks for your patience, I guess my cousin will have to figure out a different way to facebook at school
[07:24] <scguy318> winux: ok, obtain the ZIP archive I just linked you to
[07:24] <tony_> he he
[07:24] <winux> scguy318: done
[07:24] <scguy318> winux: extract WINXP to your Desktop
[07:24] <scguy318> winux: either the folder itself or the files inside
[07:24] <cptcanuck> Okay next dumb question, when I did an upgrade  and rebooted now my display is totally borked it's like it's wrapping around the screen several times, when I go to another login prompt I don't have any problem with plain text.  But in the GUI it's totally borked.  Any idea what I need to do to fix it?
[07:24] <scguy318> winux: well, just the folder
[07:24] <scguy318> winux: then just do sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/Desktop/WINXP/*.inf
[07:25] <winux> scguy318: alrighty
[07:25] <jimmacdonald> cptcanuck: if you can reboot and get to a cmd prompt you can do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and that should correct  the issues
[07:25] <jimmacdonald> sethk: did you see my pastebin?
[07:27] <scguy318> winux: after that just show what ndiswrapper -l says
[07:27] <jimmacdonald> sethk: did you say something.. I got booted.
[07:27] <scguy318> winux: oh, and I should have said this earlier
[07:27] <scguy318> winux: remove the old driver by doing
[07:28] <winux> lol was jus gonna report
[07:28] <scguy318> winux: sudo ndiswrapper -r ntrtuw
[07:28] <winux> k
[07:28] <BiTMAP_> so, are there any special things i need to do for nvidia 8800 cards drivers now?
[07:28] <taz> beagle logs keep filling my drive.. I can delete them but for some reason I don't get the disk space back until after I reboot ubuntu.. any ideas?
[07:28] <scguy318> winux: then just show what ndiswrapper -l says
[07:29] <scguy318> winux: if nothing just do the sudo ndiswrapper -i business again and reportg
[07:29] <nucco> is anyone using xgl in ubuntu gutsy? I just wanna know how smooth the sailing is before I plunge!
[07:31] <jimmacdonald> sethk?
[07:31] <winux> scguy318: suduo ndiswrapper -r ntrtuw: "couldn't delete /etc/ndiswrapper/netrtuw: No such file or directory"
[07:31] <cptcanuck> jimmcacdonald she's rebooting now, I hope this worked ^_^
[07:31] <winux> sudo
[07:31] <cptcanuck> if not it's a "learning experience"
[07:31] <BiTMAP_> anyone know if I am gonna have a hard time installing my nvidia card on ubuntu still ?
[07:31] <scguy318> winux: mm ok
[07:31] <sethk> jimmacdonald, no, I was on the phone.  give me the paste url again?
[07:32] <scguy318> winux: ndiswrapper -l please
[07:32] <winux> scguy318: netrtuw: driver installed
[07:32] <jimmacdonald> ok hang on a sec.
[07:32] <winux> scguy318: and on the -i, it says it cant install because it is already installed
[07:32] <SUKER-CN> when i use 1024*768 ,it's so hard to recognise  the menu text on some software.
[07:33] <cptcanuck> Ahh hell I did something, now my computer can't find any Operating system.
[07:33] <sethk> jimmacdonald, I found it scrolling up
[07:33] <sethk> jimmacdonald, notice the last line of the log, setting mode "nvidial-auto-select"
[07:34] <cptcanuck> Wow yeah it's totally gone,
[07:34] <sethk> jimmacdonald, see if there is anything in /etc/X11/xorg.conf with the string auto-select
[07:34] <cptcanuck> I think I will just reinstall and not worry about windows at all
[07:34] <taz> beagle logs keep filling my drive.. I can delete them but for some reason I don't get the disk space back until after I reboot ubuntu.. any ideas?
[07:34] <jimmacdonald> sethk: hold on..
[07:34] <scguy318> winux: sudo ndiswrapper -r netrtuw, sudo ndiswrapper -r ntrtuw
[07:34] <scguy318> winux: whatever its called in ndiswrapper -l
[07:34] <sethk> cptcanuck, it's easy to get windows back.  reinstalling ubuntu won't bork windows (so long as you don't tell it to use the windows partitions  :)  )
[07:35] <sethk> cptcanuck, tell it to install grub on the MBR
[07:35] <kiloccnp> all
[07:35] <cptcanuck> Sethk, that would work, but my hard drive is sounding like a tailpipe being dragged on the freeway
[07:35] <jimmacdonald> sethk: nope.
[07:35] <cptcanuck> I think I found the problem
[07:36] <scguy318> winux: after that just install with sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/Desktop/WINXP/*.inf
[07:36] <winux> scguy318: lol yea i made a typo in the -r before.. ok installed now
[07:36] <scguy318> winux: kk
[07:36] <joe_> hello
[07:36] <Radio1> lol tailpipe.
[07:36] <sethk> jimmacdonald, I use the nvidia driver, and my log doesn't show that auto select line.  I'm not sure, though, where it's coming from.
[07:36] <chetnick> does anybody here running vmware on Gutsy?
[07:36] <scguy318> winux: installed, now show what ndiswrapper -l says
[07:36] <kiloccnp> I don't know insall packet on unbuntu? Who persen hepl me
[07:37]  * cptcanuck tosses the HD on the stack o' HD's and grabs another hard drive "REINSTALL TIME!"
[07:37] <sethk> jimmacdonald, further up in the log, there is a list of validated modes
[07:37] <winux> scguy318: netrtuw: driver installed
[07:37] <Radio1> do an independant..
[07:37] <kiloccnp> hepl me
[07:38] <kiloccnp> help me
[07:38] <scguy318> winux: sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper then sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, then dmesg | tail
[07:38] <sethk> jimmacdonald, here's one thing you can try.  Override the automatic detection of the monitor, and specify "generic monitor capable of 1280x1024 @ 60hz".  (go through your reoslution change to get to 1280x1024 and check the horizontal freq)
[07:38] <computer12345> what is a good text to speech program?
[07:38] <kiloccnp> i don't know
[07:38] <sethk> jimmacdonald, it may not help, but it may.  It's a straw, but at the moment I'm not thinking of any other staws to grasp
[07:38] <sethk> jimmacdonald, let me think a bit also.
[07:39] <jimmacdonald> sethl: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43638/ <~~ xorg.conf
[07:39] <jimmacdonald> sethk: that's what the GUI is set to when I log in at the wrong resolution. how would that fix the problem?
[07:39] <scguy318> computer12345: eSpeak, Festival
[07:40] <scguy318> computer12345: for the latter you might have you use alsa-oss in conjunction with it
[07:40] <cptcanuck> is 2.5GB a decent size swap for a system with 1.5 GB of RAM?
[07:40] <sethk> jimmacdonald, 1280x1024 isn't what you want?  I got mixed up then.  What resolution do you want?
[07:41] <computer12345> thnx friends
[07:41] <BiTMAP_> NEED HELP [ Installing Nvidia 8800 ]
[07:41] <osxdude> Good night!
[07:41] <sethk> jimmacdonald, ?
[07:41] <winux> scguy318: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43639/
[07:41] <jimmacdonald> 1680 x 1050 (it's a 22inch wide screen monitor)
[07:41] <osxdude> i gotta quit here:P
[07:42] <scguy318> winux: ifconfig/iwconfig nada?
[07:42] <scguy318> winux: thats two commands :P
[07:42] <scguy318> winux: something's weird
[07:42] <scguy318> winux: you're running Gutsy right?
[07:43] <winux> scguy318: yeah, downloaded today
[07:43] <scguy318> winux: your laptop really is a MX8738?
[07:43] <cptcanuck> are new Dell notebooks totally Ubuntu friendly?
[07:43] <winux> scguy318: read it off the box
[07:43] <bullgard4> In /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist I added a line "blacklist 8139cp". I rebooted. lsmod still shows an entry '8139cp'. Why
[07:43] <winux> scguy318: and it is a realtek as seen in vistas device manager
[07:43] <jimmacdonald> sethk: 1680 x 1050 (it's a 22inch wide screen monitor)
[07:43] <BiTMAP_> NEED HELP [ Installing Nvidia 8800 ]
[07:43] <chetnick> does anybody here running vmware on Gutsy?
[07:44] <scguy318> winux: mm k
[07:44] <scguy318> winux: nothing if you run iwconfig or the like? try rebooting again also
[07:44] <kakoonia> yo!
[07:44] <winux> scguy318: you wanted me to try ifconfig/iwconfig?
[07:44] <kakoonia> !burning
[07:44] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[07:45] <scguy318> winux: ifconfig then iwconfig
[07:45] <kakoonia> is the nautilus cd burner recomended?
[07:45] <quagz1> ive used k3b worked a treat
[07:45] <quagz1> very powerful
[07:46] <sethk> jimmacdonald, There's a line that says the "virtual screen size is 1680x1050".  But actually that's the physical, not the virtual, screen size.
[07:46] <sjoerd_> How can i get previews of my .odt files? like i have previews of my .pdf files? And is there anything that looks like Quickview of Apple Leapord for gnome?
[07:46] <sethk> jimmacdonald, is it possible you told it incorrectly?
[07:46] <jimmacdonald> anything is possible. but I thought I told it correctly.
[07:46] <kakoonia> quagz1: but its for kde.. i dont unneeded packages of kde...
[07:47] <kakoonia> want.
[07:47] <Frogzoo> sjoerd_: that would be pretty cool, guess it's in the pipeline
[07:47] <jimmacdonald> sethk: how do I change it?
[07:47] <quagz1> yeah it is; but it works fine on gnome
[07:47] <quagz1> does it have many kde dependencies?
[07:47] <sjoerd_> Frogzoo: is it? Because i realy like that, then i can look at my files (in a decent quility) without opening them :)
[07:47] <kakoonia> im checking it now..
[07:47] <sethk> jimmacdonald, probably something else.  You can try my idea, but with the correct resolution.  Override the automatic monitor selection and specify monitor capable of 1680x1050@60 hz
[07:47] <cptcanuck> Has anyone read the official Ubuntu book?
[07:48] <BiTMAP_> NEED HELP [ Installing Nvidia 8800 ]
[07:48] <Frogzoo> sjoerd_: well it's a good idea, and being a good idea someone will do it
[07:48]  * Netham45 is off to bed
[07:48] <quagz1> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[07:48] <quagz1>   k3b kdebase-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a libarts1c2a libartsc0
[07:48] <quagz1>   libavahi-qt3-1 libdbus-qt-1-1c2 libflac++5c2 libk3b2 liblua50 liblualib50
[07:48] <quagz1>   libopenexr2c2a
[07:48] <sethk> jimmacdonald, choose the middle level of monitor related configuration, and check only 1680x1050 resolution.
[07:48] <kakoonia> ye
[07:48] <jimmacdonald> ok hang on a sec
[07:48] <kakoonia> thats what im seeing..
[07:48] <quagz1> bout 70mb
[07:48] <sethk> jimmacdonald, you may have already done that, and if so, it isn't going to change anything, but give it a try.
[07:48] <sjoerd_> Frogzoo: :) can i post my idea somewhere? or how can i find out if it already exists because google doesnt help me a lot :)
[07:49] <Radio1> 70 megs..wow.
[07:49] <insomnia_> has anyone ever had any issues changing the mouse pointer?
[07:49] <winux> scguy318: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43641/
[07:49] <quagz1> maybe just go the nautilus burner
[07:49] <winux> includes some of the above
[07:49] <Radio1> devede.
[07:49] <jimmacdonald> sethk: should I use NV or Nvidia for the xserver driver?
[07:49] <Frogzoo> sjoerd_: you can post a spec on launchpad if you likej
[07:49] <quagz1> I used k3b because I downloaded KDE to try (im pretty new to linux and wanted to see the KDE fuss for myself)
[07:49] <kakoonia> quagz1: ye.. i think i will.. cause i dont have too much spare gigs here.
[07:49] <tony_> jimacdonald --> what kind of video card do you have?
[07:50] <quagz1> yeah fair enough
[07:50] <tony_> nevermind, I mean I know its an nvidia
[07:50] <Radio1> I tried mandrake kde..too fussy.
[07:50] <tony_> but, is it new and kick ass, or old and slow
[07:50] <jimmacdonald> Vidia Corporation NV40 [GeForce 6800]
[07:50] <quagz1> @ jimmcdonald
[07:50] <sethk> jimmacdonald, Nvidia.  Although, trying nv might be worth a shot.  It's only 2d, but it would be an interesting data point to see if the behavior changes.
[07:50] <tony_> I would use the 'nvidia' if they work
[07:50] <quagz1> I just got my 6600GT working on ubuntu
[07:50] <quagz1> works great to
[07:51] <quagz1> i play counter-strike under wine all the time
[07:51] <tony_> I will always recommend using 'envy' to anyone that has video card issues
[07:51] <insomnia_> has anyone ever had any issues not being able to change the mouse pointer?
[07:51] <insomnia_> such a stupid problem...
[07:51] <tony_> insomia, I have never tried to changed the mouse pointer
[07:51] <defrysk> tony_, ist not wise to reccomend envy here
[07:51] <cptcanuck> Isn't it funny how much happier this room is when I'm not here?
[07:51] <cptcanuck> Have a great day all
[07:51] <cptcanuck> Me
[07:51] <tony_> why is that def?
[07:52] <tony_> and I still can't figure out how to pm with irssi
[07:52] <jimmacdonald> sethk: wish me luck. BRB
[07:52] <insomnia_> well, can anyone suggest a way to change the mouse pointer? when i use the graphical menu in themes, it doesnt work
[07:52] <quagz1> you sure? have you tried restarting gnome?
[07:53] <insomnia_> yeah i did a full restart
[07:53] <scguy318> winux: hmm, I should have looked at Gentoo Wiki first :P
[07:53] <tony_> defrysk, is there a reason I shouldn't recommend envy here?
[07:53] <winux> scguy318: oh, how come?
[07:53] <quagz1> mmmmm not sure
[07:53] <quagz1> how come you want to change it?
[07:53] <quagz1> @insomia
[07:53] <quagz1> u there?
[07:54] <insomnia_> well, it's odd, i saw the option... changed it once. then got busy. when i opened the menu back up i couldnt change it back
[07:54] <quagz1> yeah
[07:54] <scguy318> winux: they've got a linkie for a driver
[07:54] <quagz1> Go to SYSTEM -> Preferences -> Mouse
[07:54] <tony_> all I know is, 7.04, 7.10, none have been able to detect and use the restricted drivers on my 7600GT out of the box, using them causes xorg to crash, but envy gets it working everything
[07:54] <scguy318> winux: im still wondering why I didn't see any mention of a wireless device in lspci
[07:55] <Radio1> scguy328: is he useing vista.
[07:55] <insomnia_> the pointer option is not there
[07:55] <defrysk> tony_, envy its not supported here
[07:55] <defrysk> !envy
[07:55] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[07:55] <kraut> moin
[07:55] <jimmacdonald> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43642/ <~~ new xorg.conf
[07:55] <sethk> jimmacdonald, ok ...
[07:55] <tony_> right, it says to use the restricted manager, but that causes my xorg to crash
[07:55] <jimmacdonald> sethk: no change btw... did exactly the same thing.
[07:55] <scguy318> Radio1: yes, his lappy came with Vista, we tried both the Vista driver (to see if it worked) and XP drivers for RTL8187
[07:55] <scguy318> Radio1: if you know something, chime in
[07:56] <defrysk> !worksforme | tony_
[07:56] <ubotu> tony_: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[07:56] <sethk> jimmacdonald, I think I see the problem
[07:57] <tony_> ok ubotu, I find little common sense in that statement, but I guess I'll resist
[07:57] <jimmacdonald> sethk: sup?
[07:57] <tony_> ;-)
[07:57] <insomnia_> is there a terminal command to restart gnome?
[07:57] <sethk> jimmacdonald, in     Section "Screen"  (line 97)
[07:57] <scguy318> winux: http://www.majorgeeks.com/Realtek_RTL8187_USB_Wireless_LAN_ME2000XP_d5165.html, the guide suggests using the Win98 driver
[07:57] <defrysk> tony_, if you resist in this room it might cost you
[07:57] <sethk> jimmacdonald, look at the modes line (line 105)
[07:57] <sethk> jimmacdonald, 1680x1050 doesn't appear
[07:57] <quagz1> yeah
[07:57] <tony_> I meant, resist recommending it
[07:57] <quagz1> you can reboot gnome \
[07:58] <Radio1> majorgeeks knows their stuff..i go there quite often..
[07:58] <kahrytan> quaal,  by restarting x
[07:58] <quagz1> ctrl+alt+f6 will open a tty
[07:58] <sethk> jimmacdonald, and there is no modeline for it either (lines 74 through 93)
[07:58] <insomnia_> ok
[07:58] <defrysk> tony_, ok :) you your blog or something to write about what works for you , I do the same :)
[07:58] <kahrytan> quagz1,  restarting x restarts gnome
[07:58] <quagz1> i used the sudo gdm stop
[07:58] <tony_> that to me though, seems to go against the very idea of open source though, just like windows saying 'you have to do it this way'
[07:58] <quagz1> sudo gdm start
[07:58] <winux> scguy318: never knew 98 had wireless drivers
[07:59] <quagz1> then ctrl+alt+f7 back into the graphical session
[07:59] <kahrytan> winux,  got laptop?
[07:59] <scguy318> winux: your Realteak chipset writes drivers for basicallya ll the platforms
[07:59] <mosce> kskask
[07:59] <quagz1> is that a correct method?
[07:59] <scguy318> winux: *has
[07:59] <scguy318> kahrytan: yep
[07:59] <jimmacdonald> sethk: ok weird that... how do I go about fixing it... how do I calculate the modelines?
[07:59] <kahrytan> quagz1,  should tell people how to get back out of tty before you tell them to use it
[07:59] <kakoonia> someone knows how to set up a connection of BlueTooth with a mobile phone?
[07:59] <quagz1> LOLZ
[07:59] <kahrytan> kakoonia, bluetooth software?
[07:59] <winux> kahrytan: a room over, yea
[07:59] <quagz1> hope they were readging this//////
[08:00] <kakoonia> kahrytan: ye
[08:00] <quagz1> shit
[08:00] <sethk> jimmacdonald, here's a modeline from my log:   Modeline "1680x1050"  147.14  1680 1784 1968 2256  1050 1051 1054 1087
[08:00] <quagz1> ^^^^^
[08:00] <minted101> tony all you got to do is open up the xorg.log grab the modeline it dtects (one you want) and stick it in your xorg.conf, who needs envy
[08:00] <sethk> jimmacdonald, then add on line 105 at the beginning of the list   "1680x1050@60"
[08:00] <kahrytan> quagz1, I did that to someone once.. told them to use ctrl-alt-f1 and didnt tell them in time how to get out of it
[08:00] <kakoonia> kahrytan: i got this icon at the top, showing me devices, but when i try to connect to it, it says: "OBEX://blablabla" , incorrect location.
[08:01] <winux> scguy318: alright ill try 98..wonder why XP wouldnt work
[08:01] <sethk> jimmacdonald, are you sure the card is capable of 1680x1050?
[08:01] <jimmacdonald> yes... it's doing it right now.
[08:01] <scguy318> kahrytan: remove the driver you've already installed of course
[08:01] <sethk> jimmacdonald, the fact that the card can do a higher resolution than that doesn't necessarily mean it can do that.
[08:01] <Radio1> vista is just too funky.
[08:01] <kakoonia> kahrytan: no changes could be applied on it.
[08:01] <kahrytan> scguy318,  Why you talking to me?
[08:01] <jimmacdonald> sethk: errr what?
[08:01] <kakoonia> hehe
[08:01] <quagz1> lol
[08:01] <tony_> I've tried that without much luck, because it detects the wrong one... anyway, I havent had any problems (playing doom3, counterstrike, whatever) doing it my way, so I will probably stick with it
[08:02] <quagz1> im smiling right now
[08:02] <sethk> jimmacdonald, never mind, the log does show it as a possible resolution
[08:02] <quagz1> but i would be pissed
[08:02] <insomnia_> ah sorry quagzl
[08:02] <sethk> jimmacdonald, so add the modeline and then add the resolution to the list on line 105.  Might want to take out line 104, but probably 104 is harmless.
[08:02] <insomnia_> i got into the tty and had no idea what to do =P
[08:02] <jimmacdonald> sethk: the depth?
[08:02] <insomnia_> ended up forcing a restart
[08:03] <jimmacdonald> sethk: or the virtual mode?
[08:03] <quagz1> yeah soz
[08:03] <jimmacdonald> on 105?
[08:03] <quagz1> you have to press ctrl+alt+f7
[08:03] <sethk> jimmacdonald, I'm talking about the virtual line.  My screen section doesn't have it
[08:03] <insomnia_> didnt work
[08:03] <scguy318> kahrytan: sorry wrong addressee
[08:03] <insomnia_> ok
[08:03] <scguy318> winux: remove the driver you've already installed of course
[08:03] <quagz1> ........... :(
[08:03] <sethk> jimmacdonald, but one thing at a time.  let's add the modeline and add the solution to the list of modes and see what happens.
[08:03] <jimmacdonald> do I want to add +hsync +vsync after the modeline?
[08:03] <insomnia_> what should i do afterwards?
[08:04] <sethk> jimmacdonald, I'd do -hsync +vsync    because that's what's on 1400x1050
[08:04] <sethk> jimmacdonald, it's a guess; probably, though, it won't make a big difference.
[08:04] <jimmacdonald> sethk: all my entries have it.
[08:04] <jimmacdonald> ok brb
[08:04] <kakoonia> kahrytan: you remember my question?
[08:04] <sethk> jimmacdonald, none have - on anything?  then use + for both
[08:04] <quagz1> just been informed
[08:05] <quagz1> ctrl-alt-backspace reboots gnome
[08:05] <bullgard4> In /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist I added a line "blacklist 8139cp". I rebooted. lsmod still shows an entry '8139cp'. Why?
[08:05] <kahrytan> kakoonia,  i dont use bluetooth
[08:05] <kakoonia> k
[08:05] <kakoonia> thanks.
[08:05] <jimmacdonald> sethk: I have a couple that have - for both.
[08:05] <insomnia_> thanks =)
[08:05] <kakoonia> !bluetooth
[08:05] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[08:05] <jimmacdonald> sethk: and some that are -vsync +hsync
[08:05] <sethk> quagz1, actually, it stops the X server, which does reboot gnome ...
[08:05] <sethk> jimmacdonald, then try the - +.
[08:05] <Radio1> restarts X
[08:06] <quagz1> but gnome automatically boots x
[08:06] <sethk> jimmacdonald, modern monitors compensate for the setting, it probably doesn't matter much.
[08:06] <sethk> quagz1, no, not exactly, but we're quibbling.  effectively yes.
[08:06] <quagz1> argh
[08:06] <quagz1> im new to the linux thing
[08:06] <jimmacdonald> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43643/ <~~ modelines AFTER the mod.
[08:06] <quagz1> 'trying to understand all this stuff :P
[08:06] <bqmassey> how do i start up metacity?  'replace' something
[08:06] <scrimple> Hello , does anyone know how to upgrade from the CD rom from fiesty to gutsy?
[08:07] <Radio1> alt f2 metacity (?)
[08:07] <scguy318> winux: I'm gonna need to break, sorry, tired
[08:07] <jimmacdonald> sethk: what about the @70?
[08:07] <scguy318> winux: g/l
[08:07] <JasonOz> Hi, does anybody have experience with installing USB DTV dongles? My Videomate U300 does not appear in the device list :(
[08:07] <sethk> jimmacdonald, looks ok.  you also added it to the modes line on 105 (now 106, I guess)?
[08:07] <jimmacdonald> yes
[08:07] <bqmassey> it's something along the lines of '&&replace metacity
[08:07] <sethk> jimmacdonald, let's try 60.  If it works we can try 80 and 75
[08:08] <jimmacdonald> ok
[08:08] <sethk> jimmacdonald, if 60 doesn't work, the others won't either.
[08:08] <jimmacdonald> ok
[08:08] <quagz1> @scrimpy: You should get the alternate iso image
[08:08] <jimmacdonald> done lemme save and  I will be brb
[08:08] <sethk> jimmacdonald, if it doesn't work (which is probably likely), put the new log file on the paste site.
[08:08] <quagz1> you can then upgrade from feisty to gutsy using the ALTERNATE INSTALL CD
[08:08] <insomnia_> quagzl: yeah still no dice =(
[08:08] <JasonOz> Hi, does anybody have experience with installing USB DTV dongles? My Videomate U300 does not appear in the device list :(
[08:08] <winux> scguy318: nope :/
[08:08] <scrimple> i got the cd sent to me from ubuntu ship it
[08:09] <winux> scguy318: ok night
[08:09] <insomnia_> not being able to change a mouse pointer is just one of the examples why i regret leaving windows.
[08:09] <quagz1> kk i read an article on it this morning
[08:09] <xipietotec> I'm installing ubuntu on a friends laptop for them, and Ubuntu cannot seem to access the system clock in bios, is there some way around this?
[08:09] <quagz1> ill see if i can get it for you
[08:09] <xipietotec> or rather, ubuntu is not allowed to modify it
[08:09] <Frogzoo> JasonOz: only a minority of video dongles have linux drivers
[08:09] <insomnia_> ah that would be awesome =) i tried searching the forum
[08:09] <kakoonia> can someone help me resolving this bluetooth issue :" "obex://[00:1c:a4:4e:2d:eb]" is not a valid location. check your spelling and try again "
[08:09] <Frogzoo> insomnia_: you can change the mouse pointer
[08:09] <quagz1> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[08:10] <insomnia_> Frogzoo: i know, but, im running into a bug doing so, it's stuck on the one i recently changed to
[08:10] <JasonOz> Hi Frogzoo, bummer! I think the u300 is based on the DIB chipset... but if its not supported...damn
[08:10] <bqmassey> got it... it's   'metacity --replace' for anyone who's interested
[08:10] <scrimple> but i followed the instruction and nothing happened so i went for a fresh install but was wondering if there are any tricks for next time
[08:10] <winux> anyone have any more ideas on getting wireless to work? have a RTL8187 (realtek) wireless adapter, tried to install windows vista/xp/98 drivers with ndiswrapper with no luck
[08:10] <insomnia_> quagzl: are suggesting i should upgrade?
[08:10] <kahrytan> bqmassey, I know how to do that
[08:10] <quagz1> scrimpy im not sure
[08:11] <quagz1> sorry insomnia_
[08:11] <kahrytan> bqmassey, compiz --replace and metacity --replace.  Easy commands.
[08:11] <quagz1> was directing that at scrimple
[08:11] <bqmassey> kahrytan: then why didn't you help me when i asked, lol
[08:11] <insomnia_> ah
[08:11] <quagz1> insomnia_, have you had any luck on ubuntuforums.com or the ubuntu wiki?
[08:12] <kahrytan> bqmassey,  I didnt see it. but those two commands starts compiz and  stops it essentially
[08:12] <scrimple> thanks
[08:12] <kakoonia> ./וןא
[08:12] <insomnia_> i actually just found a rather long post to look over quagzl =)
[08:12] <bqmassey> kahrytan: :) yea.. i couldn't remember the syntax
[08:12] <winux> kahrytan: did you have any advice for getting wireless interface to show up?
[08:12] <ssam> hey
[08:12] <ssam> i cant get my irda to work
[08:12] <kahrytan> winux,  I am paranoid when it comes to security. So .. i dont use wireless
[08:12] <norty> how do i customize the color of files that show up in the terminal, this bright green stuff is hard to read?
[08:13] <BiTMAP_> what is the super key?
[08:13] <ssam> dows anyone know how i can syncronize my mobile with the irda
[08:13] <ssam> help?
[08:13] <ssam> anyone
[08:13] <novacheck> do anyone know where the usplash file is located so i can change the resolution
[08:14] <norty> BiTMAP_, the super key is the windows key
[08:14] <BiTMAP_> ok, thanks :) now if expo would just work :|
[08:14] <slvmchna> can ubuntu detect my Fn key on a laptop?
[08:14] <osfameron> ssam: you may get better help if you describe what you've done so far, and where you've run into problems
[08:14] <ssam> well
[08:14] <ssam> i put the IRDA it....and.....
[08:14] <slvmchna> in windows Fn+various keys are shortcuts to lower monitor brightness, sound, etc... wondeirng if i can use the key in ubuntu
[08:15] <ssam> and thats about it
[08:15] <ssam> lol
[08:15] <asra2003> can gime a tutorial whit pictures of conection to internet ¬_¬
[08:15] <ssam> it shows that the irda is detected in the drivers database
[08:15] <ssam> but when i try to send files on it it says connection failed
[08:15] <Extravert> how do I compile with mingw32?
[08:15] <marlon> www.google.com
[08:15] <CyberMad> some of employee that use ubuntu 7.04 have problem with CUPS, so they must do: sudo -i   then enter password, then run /etc/init.d/cupsys restart   after that printer start printing... do you know how to make sudo -i with password then /etc/init.d/cupsys restart in single command or script?
[08:16] <insomnia_> quagzl: now my mouse pointer is correct while i mouse over my browser, but yet changes back when i mouse over my desktop and gnome panels
[08:16] <scguy318> winux: i'm concerned about the lack of detection of the Realtek chip, I'm pretty sure you're supposed to blacklist rtl8187 or w/e
[08:16] <insomnia_> this is so silly
[08:16] <marlon> www.google.com/linux
[08:16] <scguy318> winux: its why i asked about alternate driver
[08:16] <osfameron> ssam: so you're looking for software that connects to a mobile over the infrared?  I've never had much luck with mobile phone connection on linux, but there are tools like gnokii (nokia only) and others
[08:16] <quagz1> lol
[08:16] <scguy318> winux: but I guess I'll shut up now :)
[08:16] <quagz1> pm me
[08:16] <JasonOz> Hi, anybody got experience with USB DTV tuners? Mine does not appear in devices even though appeared to be supported :-http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb?f=dc4f6d278d6e;file=linux/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-usb/dib0700_devices.c;style=gitweb
[08:16] <scguy318> winux: try another distro, whatever does the job for ya
[08:17] <hatter> anyone got any clues why reading a 300Mb file from a samba server is ten times faster than writing to a samba server ?  (from an xp box)
[08:17] <ssam> it works on windows i am able to transfer files......
[08:17] <ssam> i dont even know how to syncronize it my phone is not symbian or windows mobile...its simple java
[08:17] <ssam> sonyerricson
[08:18] <norty>  how do i customize the color of files that show up in the terminal, this bright green stuff is hard to read?
[08:18] <slvmchna> winux: have you seen this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[08:18] <sethk> hatter, typically reads can used cached data, writes have to be flushed to disk.
[08:18] <slvmchna> if you're googling around you probably came across it, but it looks like it could work
[08:18] <hatter> sethk, hmmm, this happened with the first test, not cached
[08:18] <levander> norty: 'man ls', there's some LS_COLORS variable you have to change
[08:19] <sethk> hatter, well, so much for that theory  :)
[08:19] <winux> scguy318: still here?
[08:19] <levander> norty: I vaguely remember looking into that like a year or two go, I think there were some real gotchas in getting that variable to work, but I don't remember now...  Maybe it's straight forward... Can't remember.  'man ls' and search for LS_COLORS
[08:19] <hatter> anyone here got a samba server and an xp box next to each other ?  it too 3 minutes to write a 350Mb file...  nic is 100Mb on the server
[08:20] <hatter> but took 30 secs to transfer it 'from' the samba server
[08:20] <quagz1> @insomnia https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/150475
[08:20] <levander> hatter: are you sure it was 350Mb and not 350MB?
[08:20] <quagz1> are you using gutsy, feisty, warty, etc...????
[08:20] <levander> hatter: I think files are usually measures in MB's.
[08:20] <BiTMAP_> ok, so I enabled the compix config, but it doesnt appear to be taking effect :(
[08:20] <hatter> levander, my mistake, MB
[08:20] <scguy318> winux: yes
[08:21] <levander> hatter: 8 b = 1 B
[08:21] <ssam> so is there a way i can transfer files from my phone to computer using infrared on ubuntu
[08:21] <winux> scguy318: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259419
[08:21] <sethk> he's talking about a ratio, which is a pure number.  The unit is irrelevant
[08:21] <winux> scguy318: also, realtek shows linux drivers on their website for 8187
[08:21] <hatter> levander, yes,  i am sleepy and coffee deprived
[08:22] <levander> well, i'm trying to do math, still doesn't seem it should have taken 3 minutes
[08:22] <jimmacdonald> sethk: nope http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43644/
[08:22] <hatter> levander, yes, i am getting complaints about network slowness after replacing a sarge box which was fast,
[08:22] <Sisco> is ubuntu good to use as a router/firewall (cable modem -> ubuntu -> switch)
[08:22] <Sisco> ?
[08:22] <scguy318> winux: yes
[08:22] <scguy318> winux: they're supposed to be in the kernel
[08:22] <sethk> jimmacdonald, yes, see line 328, it's saing "no such mode."
[08:23] <scguy318> winux: if they're not already modprobbed, you can try
[08:23] <scguy318> winux: sudo modprobe rtl8187
[08:23] <sethk> jimmacdonald, it's not finding anything aove 1400x1050
[08:23] <hatter> to which i can only think its samba,  because i have two completely different boxes being slow
[08:23] <ssam> is there a way to mount my irda to my mobile phone?
[08:23] <Sisco> is ubuntu good to use as a router/firewall? (cable modem -> ubuntu -> switch)
[08:23] <jimmacdonald> sethk: video card problem?
[08:24] <sethk> jimmacdonald, I think so.
[08:24] <sethk> jimmacdonald, the virtual screen size first number is 1600, which is less than 1650, which is a bad idea, but it rejects 1600x1200 also and I don't think that's the root problem
[08:25] <hatter> Sisco, yes
[08:25] <hatter> Sisco, any linux distro is
[08:25] <quagz1> Sisco, see smoothwall
[08:25] <quagz1> its all linux built
[08:25] <quagz1> You can do anything it can do
[08:26] <hatter> but not configurable if you want to then use other linux services
[08:26] <levander> hatter: well, you looked at the resource usage on the machines in question?  like cpu, memory (is it swapping), etc?
[08:26] <hatter> levander, yes, its a dual core cpu, load is low
[08:26] <winux> scguy318: ah well, guess ill just have to stick with ssh to a linux box
[08:26] <levander> hatter: and memory?
[08:27] <scguy318> winux: ah well
[08:27] <hatter> hmmm, i will check again if its swapping
[08:27] <rredd4> using gutsy, I had to reinstall grub, now sda1 (ntfs drive) does not mount like it use to,   what do i do please?
[08:27] <winux> how do I install C libraries such as stdio for including in C programs?
[08:27] <scguy318> winux: i suspect there's something wrong hardwise wise but w/e
[08:27] <scguy318> winux: install build-essential
[08:27] <Extravert> how do I compile with mingw32?
[08:27] <winux> scguy318: ah thanks
[08:28] <scguy318> winux: fine IDEs are gedit, vim, nano :P
[08:28] <scguy318> winux: KDevelop or w/e you want to use
[08:28] <insomnia_> has anyone solved the problem with beryl killing the decoration tabs at the top of windows?
[08:28] <insomnia_> i searched the forums to no avail
[08:28] <xstasi> hi
[08:28] <xstasi> anyone knows a good app to manage symbian-based phones?
[08:28] <xstasi> like installing progs and stuff
[08:29] <winux> scguy318: build-essential from command line right?
[08:29] <scguy318> winux: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:29] <levander> winux: can use apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, you choose
[08:29] <ssam> does anyone know who to mount an irda connection to my mobile phone?
[08:29] <scguy318> winux: build-essential is a metapackage in the Ubuntu repos, apt-get is the frontend to APT for retrieving the package
[08:29] <cringous> #openoffice
[08:29] <scguy318> !apt | winux
[08:29] <ubotu> winux: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[08:29] <scguy318> winux: for your reading pleasure
[08:30] <trollboy> exaile was just released
[08:30] <trollboy> and it is teh rock
[08:30] <Radio1> scguy318: vista has mega hardware issues.
[08:30] <scguy318> Radio1: agreed
[08:31] <trollboy> I hated amarack as it was just too KDE (I'm a gnome guy) and this thing is schweet
[08:31] <Radio1> some are undeletable.
[08:32] <scguy318> Radio1: nah
[08:32] <Radio1> Now in 2009 microsoft wants to come out with (7)..another flop.
[08:32] <jimmacdonald> sethk: I got kicked off before I could read your answer. Video Card problem?
[08:32] <scguy318> Radio1: eck yeah
[08:32] <scguy318> Radio1: but M$ will exercise its fine monopoly
[08:32] <sethk> jimmacdonald, I think so, yes.
[08:33] <sethk> jimmacdonald, the virtual screen size first number is 1600, which is less than 1650, which is a bad idea, but it rejects 1600x1200 also and I don't think that's the root problem
[08:33] <Radio1> Ubuntu rocks for an end user o/s.
[08:33] <dsmule> #unix-slo
[08:33] <quagz1> @EVERYONE: UBUNTU HAS BEST PACKAGE MANAGEMENT EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:33] <jimmacdonald> sethk: so I need a new card?\
[08:33] <quagz1> BETTER THAN CRAPPY msssss
[08:33] <scguy318> quagz1: thats arguable when comparing to say, Portage :P
[08:33] <sethk> jimmacdonald, a different one, yes.  My nvidia does support 1680x1050.  (also 1900x1050)
[08:34] <scguy318> quagz1: not that I've ever used Gentoo
[08:34] <scguy318> quagz1: but yes way better than MS
[08:34] <jimmacdonald> sethk: what nividia card do you have?
[08:34] <sethk> jimmacdonald, I was just looking.  lspci doesn't tell me, it's not in its pci database.  let me look.
[08:34] <quagz1> thanks ;-)
[08:35] <BiTMAP_> I am REALLY needing help with a Nvidia 8800 Vid card.
[08:35] <scguy318> BiTMAP_: what about it
[08:35] <quagz1> BiTMAP_ have you tried the nVidia site?
[08:35] <Radio1> vista was designed via the us government..google it...no wonder.
[08:35] <smmagic> BitMAP_: How so?
[08:35] <BiTMAP_> i did, when i installed it i reboot
[08:35] <BiTMAP_> tells me that it is in safe graphics, cant seem to get past that
[08:36] <smmagic> Radio1: Vista was designed but the us government and coded by a series of chimps
[08:36] <scguy318> Radio1: then again, where do you think SELinux comes from :P
[08:36] <Radio1> loo
[08:36] <smmagic> BitMAP: Did you install drivers?
[08:36] <BiTMAP_> I have attempted. It didn't seem to do anything
[08:36] <jimmacdonald> OK how many times do I have to say this... DO NOT trust an O/S coded by a spy agency.
[08:36] <smmagic> How did you install them?
[08:37] <scguy318> jimmacdonald: do I have to remove SELinux now? :P
[08:37] <smmagic> jimmacdonald: Perhaps you trust chimps more?
[08:37] <BiTMAP_> I downloaded a file from nvidia
[08:37] <Radio1> loo
[08:37] <jimmacdonald> sethk: BRB reboot
[08:37] <Faustov> hi, i've just installed fresh gutsy, now i need to install cacti on it but i get a bunch of dependencies broken with message "Depends: xyz but it is not installable" - how should i deal with that?
[08:37] <sethk> jimmacdonald, I can't quite see it.  It's one of only two cards that nvidia has (or at least had the last time I checked) supporting dual digital
[08:37] <Radio1> nsa is vista.
[08:37] <BiTMAP_> smmagic I downloaded and ran a file from nvidia it didnt seem to run. Also attempted to run the restricted drivers
[08:37] <scguy318> Radio1: and SELinux :P
[08:37] <scguy318> Radio1: do your research
[08:38] <smmagic> Faustov:I also have that error with installing gutsy sometimes
[08:38] <smmagic> Best thing is a fresh install
[08:38] <sethk> what's wrong with chimps?
[08:38] <scguy318> BiTMAP_: you have to chmod +x the run binary, then just run from terminal
[08:38] <Faustov> smmagic: well i got a fresh install... didn't get this kind of errors before.
[08:38] <BiTMAP_> ah
[08:38] <ssam> IRDA tips anyone?
[08:39] <BiTMAP_> scguy318: so basically chmod +x filepath
[08:39] <scguy318> sethk: they pee all over your sensitive data
[08:39] <ssam> or not
[08:39] <scguy318> BiTMAP_: yep, then /path/to/run/file
[08:39] <smmagic> Faustov: Try again?
[08:39] <BiTMAP_> scguy318:  thank you
[08:40] <smmagic> Wonder how much psp batteries are..
[08:40] <squid> hi
[08:40] <sethk> scguy318, sure, but they are so cheerful when they do it.  :)
[08:40] <Tarelerul> I have ati display adapters and the work around says this "add 'Option "LVDSBiosNativeMode" "false"' to the driver section of xorg.conf" ,but I don't see driver section . I do see Device setion and it speaks of driver in it could that be it
[08:40] <scguy318> sethk: lol
[08:40] <Faustov> smmagic: try again... reinstalling ubuntu? zzz
[08:40] <hatter> levander, hmmm, i am not sure how to find out if swap is being  used or not
[08:40] <smmagic> Faustov: It happened to me and with a reinstall it fixed
[08:41] <nani\> hi
[08:41] <scguy318> Radio1: do I have to remove SELinux from my kernel?
[08:41] <nani\> just wanna ask about iptables
[08:41] <Faustov> smmagic: i dont want to fix things with reinstall ffs :(
[08:41] <Faustov> what kind of scary thing ubuntu is
[08:41] <Radio1> loo..linux is now adjar.
[08:41] <scguy318> Faustov: mainstream communism :P
[08:41] <winux> scguy318: so sudo apt-get install ddd should install the debugger?
[08:41] <nani\> how to make my iptables auto load when i start my pc?
[08:42] <nani\> i mean when i log in
[08:42] <scguy318> winux: its a frontend to a debugger I think, I think the native debugger is gdb?
[08:42] <scguy318> Radio1: explain that
[08:42] <Radio1> j/k..
[08:43] <winux> scguy318: yeah gdb is installed, was wondering how to get ddd connected to run with gdb
[08:43] <nani\> anyone?
[08:43] <insomnia_> shouldnt beryl show up in add/remove applications?
[08:43] <scguy318> winux: in that area I am clueless, I use IDEs :P
[08:43] <Radio1> I used to live in duncan ya know.
[08:43] <scguy318> Radio1: so bai to SELinux or wut?
[08:44] <winux> ah
[08:44] <Radio1> i have been sniffed.
[08:44] <BiTMAP__> how do you stop xwindow so that you can run the nvidia installer?
[08:44] <BiTMAP__> alt shift f1?
[08:44] <BiTMAP__> or something like that.
[08:44] <winux> Does anyone here know how to install the debugger ddd? i get an message: "E: Couldn't find package ddd"
[08:44] <Varka> how to permanetly unload a kernel module which is not affected by the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist as it is loaded by the kernel itself and not by the hotplugsystem?
[08:45] <PriceChild> BiTMAP__, don't, use the ubuntu packages instead
[08:45] <BiTMAP__> ok, commands to do that?
[08:45] <scguy318> Radio1: great, but should I remove SELinux or not?
[08:45] <BiTMAP__> The restricted driver doesnt seem to work.
[08:45] <Radio1> thats up 2 U.
[08:45] <scguy318> winux: might wanna add universe repos if not already there
[08:45] <scguy318> Radio1: what do you think?
[08:45]  * rgl waves
[08:46] <winux> scguy318: universe also a package?
[08:46] <scguy318> hello rgl
[08:46] <scguy318> winux: no, universe is a repository
[08:46] <scguy318> winux: System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[08:46] <Extravert> how do I compile with mingw32?
[08:46] <Radio1> U R the gurue.
[08:46] <BiTMAP__> PriceChild: do you have somewhere you can give me as per instructions on how to use the ubuntu packages for a nvidia 8800?
[08:46] <winux> scguy318: @#@!, need the net right?
[08:46] <scguy318> Radio1: I asked what you thought
[08:46] <scguy318> Radio1: so could you clarify?
[08:47] <punzada> hmm, has anyone ever had the gutsy live cd just not do anything after clicking the install icon on the desktop ;|
[08:47] <scguy318> winux: yes you do! :(
[08:47] <insomnia_> shouldnt beryl show up in add/remove applications?
[08:47] <winux> i hate life now
[08:47] <scguy318> winux: hook it up via wired if you have to
[08:47] <Radio1> @ a later time..t/y.
[08:47] <winux> someones trying to make my cs experience miserable
[08:47] <philip__> i downloaded compiz and its files through an update but havent noticed anything or cant run it, im on an intel vga/gpu and i cant select any visual effects aswell
[08:47] <BiTMAP__> PriceChild: do you have somewhere you can give me as per instructions on how to use the ubuntu packages for a nvidia 8800? Anyone?
[08:48] <Radio1> HACKERII here.
[08:48] <scguy318> winux: use Vista if you need to get the job done lol
[08:48] <Radio1> have a god 1.
[08:48] <scguy318> is Radio1 mentally ill or wut?
[08:48] <corinth> Hey all, all instances of 'Restart' seem to have disappeared from my system. Not in the login window, not from the logout dialogue either. Anyone heard of this?
[08:48] <sethk> scguy318, I'd gues wut
[08:49] <scguy318> sethk: hmm?
[08:49] <scguy318> sethk: sorry, I didn't interpret your last message properly :P
[08:49] <PriceChild> BiTMAP__,  just use the restricted driver manager.
[08:49] <philip__> i downloaded compiz and its files through an update but havent noticed anything or cant run it, im on an intel vga/gpu and i cant select any visual effects aswell
[08:50] <saltydav> hello does ati driver for ati cards 8.42+xgl gives the same or better performance as 8.37+xgl? thank you :D in advance for you reply
[08:50] <insomnia_> shouldnt beryl show up in add/remove programs?
[08:50] <corinth> philip__, try installing fusion-icon
[08:50] <philip__> how do i do that?
[08:50] <philip__> i ran the update and there was around 111 files downloaded
[08:50] <CrummyGummy> haha
[08:51] <CrummyGummy>  ./configure
[08:51] <CrummyGummy> checking for /var/empty... not there - what a shitty Unix
[08:51] <tony_> ls
[08:51] <saltydav> ?
[08:51] <saltydav> anyone there?
[08:51] <saltydav> ey
[08:51] <corinth> philip__, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=601310
[08:52] <BiTMAP__> PriceChild: the restricted driver does not work. leaves me with a black screen only.
[08:52] <philip__> ok thanks corinth
[08:52] <corinth> philip__, follow just the part about installing fusion-icon. Once installed, run it with alt-f2, fusion-icon , and you can switch between managers there
[08:52] <scguy318> saltydav: no one's here :P
[08:53] <insomnia_> shouldnt beryl show up in add/remove programs?
[08:53] <insomnia_> anyone?
[08:53] <philip__> ok thanks, also why cant i change visual effects? is it because of my vga/gpu ?
[08:53] <corinth> insomnia_, never did for me
[08:53] <scguy318> insomnia_: unsure, though I' m aware that Beryl is deprecated in favor of Compiz Fusion
[08:53] <insomnia_> ok, thanks =)
[08:53] <corinth> philip__, fusion-icon should help you to change it
[08:53] <philip__> ok thanks
[08:54] <insomnia_> maybe you can answer another one for me, do you know how to solve the issue with beryl killing the decoration tabs at the top of windows?
[08:54] <insomnia_> such as the close and maximize buttons?
[08:54] <corinth> philip__, make sure to install CompizConfig Settings Manager from aptitude, too.
[08:54] <philip__> ok ill trythanks
[08:55] <corinth> Anyone know how to set different wallpapers for dual monitor setup?
[08:58] <winux> what are other useful packages from universe useful for C?
[08:58] <winux> are libraries such as dirent standard with ubuntu?
[08:59] <ganjist> whats a sponglebob?
[08:59] <winux> ganjist: a spongebob is a cartoon character
[08:59] <winux> not sure about sponglebob
[09:00] <smmagic> Sponglebob is a cheap rip off
[09:00] <ganjist> something to eat?
[09:02] <SixedUp> Whats the normal length of time before getting a response to raising a bug on launchpad?
[09:04] <Uncle-C> Good morning, could a helpful person answer an ICS query for me ?
[09:04] <Desy> Hey. Would anyone here be able to guide me on how to view Windows Media Player contest with firefox under ubuntu?
[09:05] <Desy> The live streamed videos..
[09:06] <Uncle-C> XP and Internect connection sharing ??
[09:07] <erUSUL> Desy: i use  mozilla-mplayer (with the w32codecs maybe)
[09:07] <rustre> hello people, is there a place (a chan?) where I could find help to configure my ATI (X300 mobility) on a gutsy gibbon to have direct rendering?
[09:07] <saltydav>  hello does ati driver for ati cards 8.42+xgl gives the same or better performance as 8.37+xgl? thank you :D in advance for you reply
[09:07] <saltydav> rustre pm me with your problem
[09:07] <yityit> aloooo
[09:08] <saltydav> yityit please don't swear
[09:09] <Desy> usually new drivers give better performance, give it a go. ;)
[09:09] <robotphood> anyone here have any experience with btnx?
[09:09] <Uncle-C> do I replace "static" with "dhcp" in mt /etc/network/interfaces file ?
[09:09] <Uncle-C> Also do I create an /etc/resolv.conf ?
[09:10] <Uncle-C> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=605042
[09:11] <MasterScript> hmm
[09:12] <MasterScript> hi all
[09:14] <rustre> hello people, is there a place (a chan?) where I could find help to configure my ATI (X300 mobility) on a gutsy gibbon to have direct rendering?
[09:17] <Evanlec> robotphood, yea i just used it a couple days ago, its great
[09:17] <rrittenhouse> Is there a way to display a full-screen BMP in a console without X?
[09:17] <MasterScript> hmm
[09:18] <Evanlec> i think there is....not sure how tho
[09:18] <rrittenhouse> ah
[09:18] <MasterScript> how to install ubuntu on VMware?
[09:18] <rrittenhouse> trying to use it in the form of CG
[09:18] <robotphood> well btnx doesn't seem to detect anything when i try mouse detection
[09:18] <havane> hi brothers and sisters
[09:18] <stevemac> I have problems with VMWare too
[09:18] <robotphood> really don't know where to go from here
[09:18] <MasterScript> yeah
[09:18] <rustre> hello people, is there a place (a chan?) where I could find help to configure my ATI (X300 mobility) on a gutsy gibbon to have direct rendering?
[09:19] <Evanlec> robotphood, is your mouse setup correctly in xorg.conf?
[09:19] <stevemac> I have had it working, back a few versions
[09:19] <stevemac> but then a kernel upgrade broke it
[09:19] <MasterScript> AMD Turion 64x2 <--- any problem with it?
[09:19] <robotphood> Evanlec, as far as i know
[09:19] <Evanlec> MasterScript, dont think so?
[09:19] <dgjones> rustre, this is probably as good a place as any to ask, just say what your problem is, what you've done etc, if anybody knows they'll answer, if not, just try again later on
[09:20] <rustre> dgjones: thanks, i'll try then
[09:20] <hipodilski> guys
[09:20] <hipodilski> can somebody help me how to figure out which serial port to use to connect to a attached bluetooth gps receiver
[09:20] <hipodilski> ?
[09:20] <Evanlec> robotphood, what kina mouse is it
[09:20] <robotphood> Evanlec, it's a logitech mx510, i've configured it in xorg to get the buttons working but I wanted to get back/forward thumb buttons to work in dolphin
[09:20] <rustre> I can't seem to have the direct rendering enabled : with a "glxinfo | grep direct" it tells me it's not activated, however in /var/log/Xorg.0.log it tells me it is
[09:20] <hipodilski> I can connect to the bluetooth device correcly but I can't understand which serial port does it use
[09:21] <MasterScript> i am tired to install it on vmware. after i click INSTALL... its very slow, nothing happen
[09:21] <Evanlec> robotphood, oh, ya, well thats what i wanted too, btnx worked for me
[09:21] <rustre> also, when using fglrxinfo it says i'm using MESA instead of ATI
[09:21] <havane> i must install windows :( how can i configure my hdd for that with ubuntu?
[09:21] <rustre> but when using glxgears -info, it tells me i'm using ATI technologies...
[09:21] <Evanlec> robotphood, im not sure really, ur buttons work in firefox?
[09:21] <mmg0> hey yall
[09:21] <rustre> so i'm a bit surprised and lost
[09:21] <robotphood> Evanlec, yes
[09:21]  * mmg0 runs in
[09:21] <Evanlec> robotphood, yea, dunno what to tell ya except search btnx forums
[09:21]  * mmg0 pulls down rustre's pants
[09:21]  * mmg0 points and giggles
[09:22]  * mmg0 runs out
[09:22]  * mmg0 hides
[09:22] <Evanlec> robotphood, or google btnx + mx510
[09:22] <rustre> mmg0:  ?
[09:22] <Evanlec> robotphood, are u using the evdev driver?
[09:22] <jeyk1982_> HI
[09:22] <robotphood> Evanlec, i don't think so
[09:22] <Evanlec> robotphood, k, cuz im nott either
[09:22] <jeyk1982_> Can anyone here help me with FGLRX?
[09:22]  * MasterScript waiting some help to guide me to install ubuntu on vmware
[09:23] <Evanlec> MasterScript, should install just like any other OS
[09:23] <rustre> well... this place is too crowded, and don't want to add on top of the existing noise with my problems... good luck to you people, see ya !
[09:23] <capiira> MasterScript, mount the iso and go on!
[09:23] <jeyk1982_> I installed the lates xorg-driver-fglrx, however is keeps failing or something, then it goes into low graphics mode
[09:23] <jeyk1982_> I have an ATI x1650
[09:23] <Evanlec> lol rustre
[09:23] <MasterScript> Evanlec: install on VMware or just install (roobot)
[09:24] <mmg0> who wants to be my friend?
[09:24] <mmg0> i need hugs and shit.
[09:24] <Evanlec> MasterScript, are u trying to try out ubuntu with vmware before installing it?
[09:24] <jeyk1982_> anyone?
[09:24] <mmg0> i tried installing ubuntu and it worked
[09:24] <mmg0> but it wasn't good for anything
[09:24] <mmg0> except it had a cool halloween-like logo
[09:24] <mmg0> and i thought "wow it knows what holiday it is"
[09:24] <tony_> what are you trying to say mmg
[09:24] <mmg0> but then halloween was over
[09:25] <capiira> lol
[09:25] <mmg0> and the startup screen was still orange
[09:25] <mmg0> and i was like "WHAT THE FUCK"
[09:25] <BigTrigger> ubuntu can do alot more than just look good
[09:25] <Desy> Maybe you'd prefer virus infested Windows?
[09:25] <dgjones> !ohmy | mmg0
[09:25] <ubotu> mmg0: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:25] <mmg0> but then i realized it might be for thanksgiving too.
[09:25] <mmg0> !ohmy | WH00000!
[09:25] <ubotu> WH00000!: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:25] <mmg0> lmao
[09:25] <mmg0> WTF
[09:25] <mmg0> that is so stupid
[09:25] <mmg0> you actually PIPE the nickname into the macro?
[09:25] <Evanlec> yea
[09:25] <mmg0> !ohmy | !ohmy
[09:25] <ubotu> !ohmy: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:25] <mmg0> so?
[09:25] <Evanlec> whats wroing with that
[09:25] <MasterScript> Evanlec: i am a newbies
[09:25] <mmg0> its not a REAL PIPE
[09:26] <mmg0> in fact, i bet the | doesn't even do anything
[09:26] <mmg0> !ohmy
[09:26] <Evanlec> so?
[09:26] <mmg0> !ohmy .
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ohmy . - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <mmg0> !ohmy . .
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ohmy . . - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <mmg0> !ohmy . | .
[09:26] <mmg0> lmao this is bizarre.
[09:26] <redomino> good mornig to everyone
[09:26] <mmg0> morning*
[09:26] <BigTrigger> does anyone know how to password protect a directory
[09:26] <tony_> while this is a form of trolling, it was at least amuusing during the halloween and thanksgiving bit
[09:26] <redomino> I have a problem
[09:26] <Evanlec> true
[09:26] <mmg0> I'm not trolling
[09:27] <mmg0> im just bored and hyper
[09:27] <mmg0> and this was the largest channel.
[09:27] <slap> troller!
[09:27] <mmg0> lol
[09:27] <mmg0> im actually a girl.
[09:27] <Evanlec> yea, you'd be kicked if any ops were awake
[09:27] <redomino> please can anyone help me?
[09:27] <slap> female troller!
[09:27] <mmg0> i dont use linux though
[09:27] <tony_> riighhht
[09:27] <mmg0> at all.
[09:27] <Ludwig7666> hey all
[09:27] <mmg0> im a windows girl.
[09:27] <mmg0> i code in C#
[09:27] <BigTrigger> can anyone help with password protect a folder ?
[09:27] <mmg0> but ive used ubuntu as i've said
[09:27] <mmg0> for a very short time
[09:27] <Evanlec> linux is a good environment for coders i think
[09:27] <tony_> riight
[09:27] <redomino> can anyone help me about a customization of ubuntu server?
[09:28] <tony_> what do you need redomino, I use ubuntu server
[09:28] <mmg0> i guess the "deltree /y c:" jokes dont work in these linux channels.
[09:28] <Evanlec> BigTrigger, you just need to use permissions, right click the folder and hit properties, then permissions tab, set as you want
[09:28] <mmg0> and i guess telling people to "alt-f4" out of their irc client is bound to completely do some crazy stuff on linux like open a portal into tty9 or something.
[09:28] <BigTrigger> i mean if someone was to get a hold of my desktop and they click documents i want it to ask for a password
[09:28] <Evanlec> mmg0, nope ;p, but other commands do
[09:29] <tony_> Bigtrigger, that would be a good idea for a porn folder
[09:29] <redomino> tony, I have to customize ubuntu server. I have to add some packages extra and they have to install themselves at startup of installation
[09:29] <Evanlec> mmg0, actually alt+f4 works the same way in linux as it does in windows, closes current window
[09:29] <BigTrigger> lol or snoopy ppl
[09:29] <mmg0> Evanlec:  those copy cats.
[09:29] <redomino> i apologize for my bad english. i'im italian
[09:29] <mmg0> they could have at least went the mac route and did Ctrl+W
[09:29] <RedBlack`> hi i installed the last alsa driver, and after reboot, no sound and when i click the mixer it's give me an error that gstreamer is missing
[09:29] <MasterScript> Evanlec: VMware already install. now i want install ubuntu, but not finish. i see 2 document/file there Example & Install. I click Install - nothing happen
[09:29] <Evanlec> mmg0, yea, but atleast in linux u can change just about any keyboard shortcut/behavior
[09:30] <void^> Evanlec: depends on the window manager - on fluxbox it switches to the 4th workspace ;)
[09:30] <mmg0> Evanlec:  you can in windows too, you just need to know where to go to change them :P
[09:30] <infidel> anyone here use songbird?
[09:30] <MasterScript> Evanlec: AMD Turion 64x2 winxp
[09:30] <insomnia_> has anyone had any luck with beryl killing window decorations?
[09:30] <Evanlec> lol void^ u using fluxbuntu?
[09:31] <tony_> I use fluxbox, but just on top of ubuntu server
[09:31] <Evanlec> MasterScript, yea im not sure why the installer won't start on vmware, i never had a problem with it
[09:31] <mmg0> see, this is what i don't like about linux.  every idiot that thinks they can "do it better" has their own distro.
[09:31] <void^> Evanlec: no, but fluxbox, on whatever happens to run on the computer in front of me :-)
[09:31] <havane> how can i prepare my hard drive to install win xp with ubuntu?
[09:31] <tony_> mmg0, we've all heard this before
[09:31] <BigTrigger> evenlec is there a way to do it though ?
[09:31] <Evanlec> mmg0, yea i agree there are way too many distros out there
[09:31] <mmg0> tony_:  then i suggest you pop your eardrums and ill turn on closed captioning.
[09:31] <bullgard4> How to remove the kernel module 8139cp? To blacklist it by writing "blacklist 8139cp" in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist is unsuccessful
[09:31] <mmg0> well it's to the point where the word "linux" means nothing
[09:32] <mmg0> if you put it on your resume, its pointless.
[09:32] <Evanlec> BigTrigger, yea like i told you, make its permissions only root, or only for your user
[09:32] <misa_> is anyone in the room involved in printing the ubuntu discs?
[09:32] <mmg0> you need experience with the EXACT distro they're using or you're screwed.
[09:32] <tony_> not necessarily, ever program written for linux will owrk on every linux distro out there
[09:32] <Evanlec> BigTrigger, disable read permissions for all other users
[09:32] <tony_> every*
[09:32] <mmg0> i mean.. windows, it's all the same.  you change IP routing the same way in any version of windows, etc..
[09:32] <MasterScript> Evanlec: any doc/reference how to install ubuntu on VMware?
[09:32] <mmg0> linux it's like
[09:32] <mmg0> "WHAT"
[09:33] <Evanlec> mmg0, well thats not necessarily true, there are many commanilties with linux, in fact distros are just different software pacakages really
[09:33] <tony_> yeah, the directory structure and config files are pretty much the same no matter the distro
[09:33] <Evanlec> MasterScript, ubuntuforums.org search
[09:33] <tony_> domino?  you still there?
[09:33] <MasterScript> ok thanks Evanlec
[09:33] <Evanlec> you change ip routing the way in any version of linux too really
[09:33] <Evanlec> *same
[09:34] <mmg0> Evanlec:  well there are major differences,  for example ubuntu and kubuntu are very identical, yet they both crash during completely different points during installation.
[09:34] <tony_> he he mmgo
[09:34] <Evanlec> mmg0, lol, if you're here to flame linux/ubuntu, you wont get very far
[09:34] <void^> mmg0: show some courtesy and move over to -offtopic
[09:34] <mmg0> im here to make friends.
[09:34] <mmg0> im lonely and cold
[09:34] <Evanlec> u wont make any that way
[09:34]  * robotphood smells troll in the air
[09:35] <mmg0> and its the time of the month when im really lonely.
[09:35] <tony_> That is the life of windows
[09:35]  * mmg0 picks up Evanlec and spins him around
[09:35] <Evanlec> eh?
[09:35] <Evanlec> lol
[09:35] <tony_> mmgo, we could be facebook friends
[09:35] <tony_> he he
[09:35] <CyberMad> some of employee that use ubuntu 7.04 have problem with CUPS, so they must do: sudo -i   then enter password, then run /etc/init.d/cupsys restart   after that printer start printing... do you know how to make sudo -i with password then /etc/init.d/cupsys restart in single command or script?
[09:35] <Evanlec> hah
[09:35] <tony_> and omg, I truely don't think your a girl
[09:35] <tony_> I just realized how that came off
[09:35] <tony_> anyway
[09:36] <tony_> #*()&$
[09:36] <Evanlec> CyberMad, should be able to just write those commands into a shell script and save it
[09:36] <tony_> phew
[09:36] <ray_> how does one use the windows driver tool?
[09:36] <misa_> anyone have experience in printing (not burning) bootable cd-s?
[09:36] <blue|palm> hi there, im having trouble playing video decently with the gutsy release. all video is VERY blocky regardless of the quality (its very pixellated) I am using an X1900XTX with fglrx installed... any ideaS?
[09:37] <Evanlec> misa_, printing? i use lightscribe ;p
[09:37] <Evanlec> blue|palm, it has to do with your codecs, i noticed the same thing, the default codecs for reason dont apply any filtering/smoothing
[09:37] <nucco> blue|palm: are you using gstreamer?
[09:37] <Evanlec> *some
[09:38] <nucco> try xine
[09:38] <Evanlec> totem-xine?
[09:38] <Evanlec> ;
[09:38] <nucco> yea
[09:38] <Evanlec> hm, k
[09:38] <nucco> remember to install xine plugins too
[09:38] <misa_> Evanlec: no. i meant printing (recording) cds in factory, not using enduser cd/dvd burners
[09:38] <blue|palm> Evanlec, nucco  ive tried totem, vlc AND mplayer... so i doubt its a codecs issue (mplayer uses its own ffmpeg implementation and all)
[09:38] <Evanlec> misa_, oh, well, u need a factory for that :)
[09:38] <ray_> how do i update drivers in ubuntu?
[09:39] <blue|palm> Evanlec, but what do you suggest I try (what new codecs should i install?)
[09:39] <Evanlec> blue|palm, perhaps the w32 codecs
[09:40] <blue|palm> Evanlec, are they in the main repo?
[09:41] <redomino> tony?
[09:41] <insomnia_> can anyone help me with beryl and missing window decorations?
[09:41] <Evanlec> blue|palm, probly in universe or metaverse
[09:41] <blue|palm> Evanlec, thanks
[09:41] <Evanlec> blue|palm, multiverse i mean
[09:42] <misa_> Evanlec: yes. the thing is i sent the factory a bootable master and the copies that the factory printed were not bootable
[09:42] <nucco> blue|palm: try using GL output in mplayer
[09:42] <blue|palm> nucco, that does solve it
[09:42] <Evanlec> misa_, lol...oops ;p
[09:42] <blue|palm> nucco, but of course performance is horrible
[09:43] <blue|palm> nucco, thats what im doing as a temporary measure
[09:43] <misa_> Evanlec: yes. i was wondering if there was a special way of creating a bootable master for that kind of cd recording... and since Ubuntu prints tons of cds...
[09:44] <boysgotcocks> REVANS
[09:44] <Desy> Does anyone know why I can't view WMP content online with firefox? I have the mplayerr addon installed
[09:44] <Desy> http://www.crochef.com/index.php?recept=174 for example can't be viewed.. it just continuously syncs at the begining
[09:44] <misa_> Evanlec: maybe someone here would know
[09:44] <kimmey2k3> !backup
[09:44] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[09:44] <Evanlec> misa_, ah, yea, well im not sure
[09:44] <nucco> blue|palm:  performance is horrible?
[09:45] <blue|palm> nucco, yes, i have a monitor that is 1920x1200 so I can visible see the frames being rendered :-( (im on fglrx 8.37 from the restricted driver manager)
[09:45] <blue|palm> visibly*
[09:45] <nucco> blue|palm: not  the openGL2 output
[09:46] <blue|palm> nucco, ive tried both
[09:46] <nucco> blue|palm: I have an x1600, performance is good.
[09:46] <nucco> maybe you should manually install the newest drivers from ati's website?
[09:46] <blue|palm> nucco, rendering to 1920x1200 :-)
[09:46] <tony_> #*()&$Desy, that website works fine for me, and I don't really have any plugins except the extras
[09:46] <nucco> blue|palm: I am rendering at 1680x1050
[09:46] <tony_> on firefox
[09:46] <blue|palm> nucco, im considering that, but it seems to be aproblem in ubuntu studio
[09:46] <nucco> blue|palm:  use envy
[09:46] <nucco> blue|palm: I have reservations about ubuntustudio, but that's just me
[09:46] <blue|palm> nucco, fglrx kernel module fails to build in ubuntu studio with the -rt kernel
[09:47] <Desy> Hmmm..
[09:47] <Desy> Could you give me any more info? the actual vid loads fine?
[09:48] <nucco> blue|palm: use envy to install the newest available drivers
[09:48] <Desy> Which plugins are you using Tony?
[09:48] <blue|palm> nucco, (Ive tried, kernel module fails to build)
[09:49] <Evanlec> blue|palm, you'll proably have to use the drivers directly from ati's website
[09:49] <nucco> blue|palm: you specifically want to stick with ubuntustudio?
[09:49] <Svish> is it possible to add a group to a directory?
[09:49] <nucco> Evanlec: same build issue I would expect
[09:49] <Svish> so that the group can edit the directory
[09:50] <Evanlec> no, i had same issue with nvidia drivers, the restricted drivers in ubuntu wouldnt work with custom kernel, had to use the binary drivers from nvidia
[09:50] <blue|palm> nucco, well, i need to record audio, so i need the real time kernel
[09:50] <nucco> blue|palm: I guess you should try the drivers from ati's site then
[09:51] <blue|palm> nucco, this is the first time im trying this distro out... if it ends up being too problematic im just going back to standard ubuntu ;-P
[09:51] <nucco> blue|palm: I've never had issues with standard ubuntu, but I'm not a recording professional
[09:52] <blue|palm> nucco, standard ubuntu was working great, but i could not record audio taking from more then one instrument through my mixer, hence my swap
[09:52] <Evanlec> anyone here gotten bluetooth dongle working?
[09:52] <blue|palm> Evanlec, mine worked in gutsy on its own
[09:52] <Evanlec> really?
[09:52] <nucco> blue|palm: you record from the 'capture' or 'mix' channel
[09:52] <Evanlec>  see my motherboard came with a bluetooth dongle, i plugged it in but it aint doin jack
[09:53] <_eReN_> hi world
[09:53] <Evanlec> installed everything with bluetooth in its name with apt-get
[09:53] <blue|palm> nucco, i know, but it was lagging like crazy
[09:53] <nucco> my usb bluetooth works too
[09:53] <nucco> oh...
[09:53] <kimmey2k3> is it possible to remove the panels from only one workspace?
[09:54] <nucco> kimmey2k3: nope
[09:54] <nucco> kimmey2k3: but they don't extend on multiple monitors.
[09:54] <kimmey2k3> i see
[09:55] <kimmey2k3> im using terminal as background and without the panels with would be very nice
[09:56] <benet> set
[09:56] <termitor> hello, somebody cant help me on freenx trouble?
[09:56] <Gunn> how can I run 2 seperate instances of camstream
[09:59] <un_dave> how do i show the speed of a file copy with cp ?
[10:02] <tony_> Good morning fellas, does anyone here use irssi as an irc client?
[10:02] <Gunn> tony_ Xchat works much better
[10:02] <Flux-D> tony_: sometimes yes
[10:03] <tony_> Gunn & Flux, thanks irssi is working fine for me now, I just don't know how to pm users
[10:03] <Flux-D> read the manual :)
[10:03] <riaal> Is the default logfile for iptabels /var/log/messages?
[10:03] <Gunn> tony_ you type /msg username message here
[10:04] <tony_> and I'll be honest, I'm looking for a terminal based client because A) I'm a nerd, and B) I use it with a transparents tilda terminal
[10:04] <tony_> yeah, I've been trying that
[10:04] <tony_> I will try it with you
[10:04] <tony_> did you get that gun
[10:04] <Gunn> tony_ I am not a registered user so I cant message back
[10:04] <tony_> I typed "/"msg Gunn message here
[10:05] <un_dave> can anyone explain to me what the -x option for cp does?
[10:05] <un_dave> other than "stay on this file system"
[10:05] <un_dave> ?
[10:05] <kakoonia> i need some help with xhotkeys.. the instructions at the app website is to add ( xhotkeys at the command line at sessions ), well, ive added and tried also -d, but it doesnt launch into the background when i start and not launching it even iv do this command at (Alt+F2).. someone got any idea how to fix it?
[10:05] <revx> hello...
[10:05] <tony_> hmm, so you can only pm private usrs
[10:05] <un_dave> hi
[10:05] <Flux-D> tony_: on freenode yes
[10:05] <Nephyrin> un_dave - it um... only.. remains within one filesystem
[10:05] <tony_> I get it, well, I'm not a registered user
[10:05] <revx> will some body help me with my terminal..
[10:05] <tony_> so I prolly can't do it either
[10:05] <Flux-D> u can pm urself I think
[10:06] <tony_> revx, what is your question
[10:06] <riaal> un_dave, like Nephyrin said, it wont copy from fat32 to ext3 (for example)
[10:06] <tony_> Flux-D, great
[10:06] <un_dave> Nephyrin: riaal: oh. i think i see.
[10:06] <riaal> anyone? is the default log for iptabels /var/log/messages? :S
[10:06] <Gunn> tony_ how can you be on multiple servers with irssi ?
[10:06] <Fethman> Hi how can I forbid a user of ftpd to descent below his home directory
[10:06] <revx> my terminal...when i open its only WHite display...no user...why what happen??????????????
[10:07] <Fethman> proftpd that is
[10:07] <tony_> you just type "/server blah" over again and connect to as many servers as you wan
[10:07] <Nephyrin> un_dave - If you 'mounted' /dev/sda2 in /bob and /dev/sda3 in /bob/sub, and did "cp -x /bob/* /somedir" it wouldn't copy the /bob/sub data because it was not part of the same file system as bob.
[10:07] <tony_> t
[10:07] <tony_> then you just hit 'ctrl x' to cycle through them
[10:07] <riaal> Fethman, there is an option for that in the config file.. located in /etc/proftpd
[10:07] <tony_> and then '/disconnect server' as you want as well
[10:08] <Gunn> whats the command to cycle channels in irssi ?
[10:08] <Flux-D>  /cycle ?
[10:08] <un_dave> Nephyrin: i have /dev/sda1 as /, and my new raid, /dev/md0 mounted as /mnt/raid
[10:08] <revx> and my application windows seems no title bar......i cant move the apps manually...
[10:08] <riaal> Fethman, at least it is in vsftpd, but proftpd must have that option to..
[10:09] <Fethman> riaal: any idea how it's called cos I can't see it
[10:09] <un_dave> Nephyrin: i want to copy my root from to the raid drive
[10:09] <Nephyrin> un_dave - then, if you did "cp -xr /* /mnt/raid" it *should* copy everything into raid, without entering the raid/dev/proc/tmp directories
[10:09] <pklim> ha
[10:09] <Gunn>  doing /cycle just rejoins me to the channel
[10:09] <Gunn> how do I switch between different channels in irssi
[10:09] <Nephyrin> although, do some sort of dry run before doing something so potentially dangerous :-P
[10:09] <tony_> Gunn, alt+arrow key I believe
[10:09] <tech0007> anyone knows how to reset iptables back to default like fresh install? pls help.
[10:09] <pklim> ubunt?
[10:10] <Flux-D> Gunn: oh that cycle
[10:10] <riaal> Fethman, in vsftpd.conf it is called "chroot_local_user=YES"
[10:10] <Nephyrin> From the cp info page:
[10:10] <Nephyrin> `-x'
[10:10] <Nephyrin> `--one-file-system'
[10:10] <Nephyrin>      Skip subdirectories that are on different file systems from the
[10:10] <Nephyrin>      one that the copy started on.  However, mount point directories
[10:10] <Nephyrin>      _are_ copied.
[10:10] <Gunn> tony_ alt+arrow key just makes letters
[10:10] <Gunn> tony_ D C B and A
[10:10] <Fethman> riaal: thx I'll google it
[10:10] <un_dave> Nephyrin: that was my plan... but cp -a -x /* /mnt/raid
[10:11] <tony_> he he yeah
[10:11] <riaal> Fethman, np
[10:11] <Nephyrin> un_dave - that sounds even better
[10:11] <Nephyrin> :-P
[10:11] <tony_> and I just released I have that command configured to something else in fluxbox
[10:11] <un_dave> Nephyrin: well the raid is blank at the moment... so it cant hurt to try can it?
[10:11] <Nephyrin> and much less ultra-destructive as compared to my command XD
[10:11] <Nephyrin> It shouldn't
[10:11] <tony_> anyway, I havent had the need to join multiple chanels yet, but I think its trying to explain here, in this link
[10:11] <Nephyrin> but I've blown up my systems so many times with things that shouldn't have hurt :-P
[10:11] <tony_> http://f0rked.com/articles/irssi
[10:11] <kakoonia> i need some help with xhotkeys.. the instructions at the app website is to add ( xhotkeys at the command line at sessions ), well, ive added and tried also -d, but it doesnt launch into the background when i start and not launching it even iv do this command at (Alt+F2).. someone got any idea how to fix it?
[10:12] <Nephyrin> Anyway, I needs to sleep
[10:12] <Nephyrin> gl to you ^.^
[10:12] <tech0007> anyone knows how to reset iptables back to default like fresh install? pls help.
[10:13] <un_dave> Nephyrin: night. cheers.
[10:13] <tony_> exit
[10:13] <artm> hi. i'm trying to build a kernel package, following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile but i get the error like http://pastebin.com/d4fbdab47
[10:13] <chief_> hi all, does anyone know where the switch is to stop the screensaver from turning my monitor off ?
[10:14] <artm> and if i do make mrproper it removed debian directory
[10:14] <Fethman> riaal: Thx I got it. It's DefaultRoot in proftpd
[10:14] <jc-denton> hi all
[10:14] <nucco> chief_: its not the screensaver turning off your monitor
[10:14] <artm> wgat i'm i doing wrong?
[10:14] <nucco> chief_: its gnome-power-manager
[10:14] <jc-denton> how can i rebuild the aacraid driver w/o compiling the whole kernel?
[10:14] <chief_> nucco: ahh
[10:14] <thedrs> hi, is there a way to make my keyring not ask for a password for wifi each time ? i want it done automatically
[10:14] <jc-denton> its using dkms,  but that's for redhat afaik
[10:15] <tony_> Gunn --> I think you do alt + 1,2,3,4 for example, but on my system, that is the command to switch workspaces
[10:15] <tony_> so I can't check it for you, but that seems to be how the link explains it
[10:15] <tech0007> anyone knows how to reset iptables back to default like fresh install? pls help.
[10:15] <chief_> nucco: fixed thanks :)
[10:15] <artm> thedrs: you need pam-gnome-keyring thing
[10:15] <nucco> chief_: np :)
[10:15] <artm> aptitude search pam-gnome-keyring
[10:16] <thedrs> artm: thanks
[10:16] <thedrs> will look
[10:16] <tony_> tech
[10:16] <tony_> try this command
[10:16] <tony_> iptables --flush
[10:16] <artm> then the first time you'll login it'll ask for password but there'll be [ ] don't ask again choice.
[10:16] <tech0007> tony_:  ok...i did... what does that do?
[10:17] <tony_> it should... reset your iptables
[10:17] <tony_> at least that is how the command is defined
[10:17] <Flux-D> it flushes them down the toilet :p
[10:17] <winux> do i need to get a subset of man pages in order to read documentation on C functions?
[10:17] <Matur> hi?
[10:17] <tech0007> tony_: ok ,i get it...is that the default after a fresh install, coz i kinda messed it up
[10:18] <nucco> winux: isn't there something for devhelp?
[10:18] <kakoonia> i need some help with xhotkeys.. the instructions at the app website is to add ( xhotkeys at the command line at sessions ), well, ive added and tried also -d, but it doesnt launch into the background when i start and not launching it even iv do this command at (Alt+F2).. someone got any idea how to fix it?
[10:18] <tony_> tech, I'm pretty sure that is the default, but to be honet, I havent looked at iptables much
[10:18] <artm> winux: glibc-doc glibc-doc-reference
[10:18] <icanic> hi
[10:18] <tony_> Flux -D, are you a fluxbox user?
[10:18] <icanic> can someone help me
[10:18] <icanic> I messed something with audio drivers
[10:18] <icanic> ?
[10:18] <tony_> you can try icanic
[10:19] <tech0007> tony_: that's fine, could u point me where to look for the best iptables resources, is there another irc channel for this topic?
[10:19] <winux> artm: are those packages?
[10:19] <artm> yep
[10:19] <icanic> I have AC97 on board and X-fi on PCI
[10:19] <icanic> AC97 worked by default in gutsy
[10:19] <icanic> but I tryed to install some drivers for x-fi
[10:20] <icanic> and now nothing workd
[10:20] <artm> icanic: 64bit?
[10:20] <icanic> *works :-(
[10:20] <icanic> 32bit
[10:20] <tony_> honestly tech, the best resource I can ever offer for something like that is google, thats really all I use, just keep browsing for someone who tried to setup the same thing as you
[10:20] <icanic> I download drivers from realtek but nothing
[10:20] <artm> are there linux32 drivers for x-fi  ?
[10:21] <icanic> seems like no
[10:21] <tech0007> tony_: ok thanks a much...that's why i love ubuntu coz of all of u guyz, night!
[10:21] <winux> artm: ok so i have glibc-doc, does this mean i should automatically be able to man any C function
[10:21] <tony_> good luck tech
[10:21] <artm> that's what i thought. the beta drivers from creative are 64 bit only
[10:21] <bullgard4> How to remove the kernel module 8139cp? To blacklist it by writing "blacklist 8139cp" in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist is unsuccessful.
[10:21] <tony_> 64 bit only? I've never heard of such a thing!
[10:21] <hno3> hi all