[08:27] <Iulian> Good morning.
[14:33] <soren> amitk: So.... Where can I see your lpia magic stuff?
[14:37] <amitk> soren: clone ubuntu-intrepid-lpia from zinc
[14:38] <soren> amitk: So... did you end up b-d'ing on linux-source?
[14:39] <amitk> soren: no, it is a a complete kernel tree
[14:41] <soren> Ah. Hm... Well, that probably is the easiest.
[14:41] <soren> What I'd really like would be to be able to *maintain* it as a git tree, but have the source packages only contain the patches and then b-d on linux-source.
[14:44] <amitk> soren: maintaining a set of patches in git is similar to what binary-custom.d did in Hardy kernels. We don't want that anymore. We want these patches applied now..
[14:46] <amitk> besides, b-d'ing will get a different versionof source for different people, depending on when they build
[14:47] <soren> amitk: Yes, that's true.
[14:47] <soren> Well, ok. I'll grab your stuff and see what I can do with it. Thanks.
[14:48] <amitk> soren: ping me for pointers to get your started. AUTO patches are generated in the script (debian/scripts/mis/rebase-intrepid), SAUCE are the legitimate patches for the flavour
[14:49] <soren> "AUTO patches"?
[14:50] <amitk> soren: :) you'll see
[14:50] <soren> Hm... Alright :)
[15:14] <infinity> amitk: *poke*
[15:15] <infinity> amitk: The new linux-lpia source package... Does that have any new code (licensing-wise) compared to the hardy lpia kernels?
[15:15] <infinity> amitk: Or can I just blindly accept it?
[15:17] <amitk> infinity: no new code, it is the intrepid kernel with the debian/ dir replaced by lpia specific configs
[15:18] <infinity> amitk: Kay, that's all I needed to kno.
[15:18] <infinity> know*
[15:18] <infinity> amitk: Accepting to universe for now, until someone tells us differently.
[15:19] <amitk> infinity: thanks. I'll ask loic to take up promotion to main
[15:20] <infinity> amitk: There aren't any non-free bits in that, are there...?
[15:22] <amitk> infinity: nope. Only the firmware that we carry in the intrepid tree that are freely redistributable.
[15:23] <infinity> amitk: Check.  Thanks.
[15:36] <soren> amitk: Ok, I have the cloned tree now.. I want to have origin pointing at the ubuntu-intrepid tree, I imagine. Hm.. I've never done this rebasing business before.
[15:37] <amitk> soren: no, you want origin pointing to your new tree, e.g. ubuntu-intrepid-virtual
[15:38] <soren> Oh. Ok.
[15:38] <amitk> the intrepid tree is just a branch
[15:39] <soren> Ok, origin is now pointing at my git tree on zinc..
[15:39] <amitk> soren: after you have cloned my tree, I suggest to modify it to suit virtual, then upload to zinc.
[15:40] <amitk> soren: this will be easier done on zinc itself
[15:41] <soren> Oh. I followed the instructions on the wiki about how to set up your own tree, so I cloned yours and copied it to /srv/kernel.ubuntu.com/blah/blah.
[15:41] <soren> I've not changed any code yet. At all.
[15:48] <soren> Oh, you're building your own linux-libc-dev.
[15:52] <amitk> soren: probably remained there during the cleanup
[15:54] <amitk> soren, ok. Now that it is published on kernel.ubuntu, clone the tree from there. That will get origin set correctly
[16:01] <zul> hello
[16:08] <soren> amitk: Oh, I can get the origin set correctly manually. No worries.
[21:41] <the_fafa> i had a broken 7.10 kernel upgrade from 14 to 15. it booted a broken kernel 15 and it did not put the right files to the /boot directory. just for information.. probably some of you know how to fix this.
[21:50] <the_fafa> could someone explain this to me? i had a different filesystem while that error kernel was booted.. what was it? some live-cd leftover? i mean this is serious.. whats going on?
[21:59] <soren> amitk: Wow, that's convenient. make mrproper nukes the debian/ directory even if you've spent 3-4 hours tweaking it and haven't committed any of it.
[22:00] <soren> Oh, he's not here.
[22:08] <the_fafa> soren, i know. mrproper also erases your .config :(


[04:14] <zeebz> So my fresh out of the box KDE Neon with Nvidia GTX 760 is doing THIS: https://sendvid.com/vfxmwfrt
[04:15] <DanielPowerNL> zeebz, has to reboot for some troubleshooting, if anyone has a suggestion, feel free to give it. I'll still be here watching for replies.
[07:27] <Shane-o> hi peeps, new to irc so let me have it if I need it. Is there anyone who's knowledgeable about adding multiple desktop managers-tried to add kubuntu-desktop to ubuntumate-kubuntu didnt work and mates messed up a bit
[07:28] <john85> hey folks :)
[07:29] <Shane-o> hi ;)
[07:30] <john85> hows u?
[07:30] <Shane-o> not bad n u
[07:30] <john85> not bad,  just on a flying visit though,  got to open up shop in half an hour
[07:31] <Shane-o> what kind?
[07:31] <john85> charity shop :)
 @zeebz, Try change renderer to opengl or xrender
[07:31] <Shane-o> opshop good on ya
[07:32] <john85> :)
[07:33] <john85> what you up to today Shane -o?
[07:34] <Shane-o> is this the kubuntu support site? 1st time irc-er
[07:34] <Shane-o> server sorry
[07:35] <john85> this is the support site,  don't know about any server
[07:36] <john85> im fairly new here myself
[07:36] <Shane-o> my mistake anything i should know about irc (rules)
[07:38] <Shane-o> im here cause i tried to add kubuntu-desktop to ubuntumate and kubuntu didnt work and ubuntu mate messed up a bit
[07:39] <john85> im new to kubuntu myself,  how did you go about adding KDE?
[07:42] <Shane-o> ive got ubuntu mate and from the terminal i typed - sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports - sudo apt update && sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop - sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[07:42] <Shane-o> minus the dashs
[07:43] <john85> similar to what i used,  but i had Ubuntu 16.04
[07:44] <john85> you a member of kubuntuforums.net?
[07:45] <Shane-o> nah this is the first time ive even chatted to anyone online about linux been using it about 5 years though
[07:46] <Shane-o> im a bit of a recluse
[07:46] <john85> ok,  I would recommend registering
[07:46] <john85> me too :)
[07:47] <john85> i have to go
[07:47] <john85> hopefully see you on here again sometime
[07:47] <Shane-o> too easy have fun at the shop ;)
[07:47] <john85> i will try
[07:47] <john85> bye for now
[07:47] <Shane-o> catch ya
[08:44] <user|55110> how to change anonsurf mode
 I've got problems with the hardware detection on Kubuntu 17.10
 My hardware is not detected 😫
[09:44] <john85> lo :)
 !backports
 IRC bot triggers don't work via telegram
[11:16] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[13:42] <JonelethIrenicus> i get this warning in kubuntu There are two actions (Cut, Delete) that want to use the same shortcut (Shift+Del). This is most probably a bug.
[13:42] <JonelethIrenicus> where can i fix this?
[13:44] <oerheks> shift + del deletes without putting the file in trashbin, not a bug at all
[13:44] <JonelethIrenicus> oerheks: when two keyboard shortcuts are bound to two actions that is a bug
[13:45] <JonelethIrenicus> or one combination of keystrokes rather
[13:45] <oerheks> all i know is that shift+del is one shortcut?
[13:45] <JonelethIrenicus> im not sure but anytime i do anything in dolphin it complains like that
[13:46] <oerheks> i don't understand what 2 shortkeys do you talk about then?
[13:46] <JonelethIrenicus> "There are two actions (Cut, Delete) that want to use the same shortcut (Shift+Del). This is most probably a bug."
[13:46] <JonelethIrenicus> that is the error message given to me by dolphin
[13:47] <JonelethIrenicus> if you look at the shortcuts in Dolphin thought Cut and Delete actions DO NOT use the same key combination
[13:47] <oerheks> i see this bugreport.. https://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjMhNPJt-PVAhXHKVAKHZ5xBAMQFggxMAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fkde-bugs-dist%40kde.org%2Fmsg144528.html&usg=AFQjCNGZAS8K_DeDhxJk0hkUwDPGaAOGVA
[13:47] <oerheks> oops
[13:47] <oerheks><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:47] <oerheks> but that is on mint..
[13:49] <JonelethIrenicus> some gwenview error : https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377880
[13:49] <JonelethIrenicus> although fix is to upgrade gwenview
[13:49] <JonelethIrenicus> which i cannot do
[13:52] <JonelethIrenicus> at least it is easy to fix :D
[13:52] <oerheks> yes, you can change it, but this report says other programs undo it.. not sure which one > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347373
[13:56] <oerheks> gwenview bites dolphin and back?
[13:56] <JonelethIrenicus> huh?
[13:57] <oerheks> * with that custom shortkey
[13:57] <JonelethIrenicus> After I disable the alternative keyshortcut everything is fine
[13:57] <JonelethIrenicus> so far
[13:58] <oerheks> oke
[13:58] <JonelethIrenicus> thanks
[13:58] <JonelethIrenicus> maintaining a massive bug website with so many users must be insanity
[14:00] <oerheks> connecting simular bugs is a full dayjob indeed
[14:52] <clivejo> hi Nathan
[14:53] <NateGraham> Hello!
[14:54] <clivejo> how are things?
[14:54] <NateGraham> pretty good, pretty good. Yourself?
[14:55] <clivejo> stinking of diesel, but otherwise I'm doing good
[14:56] <NateGraham> hope I didn't catch you at a bad time
[14:56] <clivejo> nope, came inside for a meeting in five minutes anyways
[14:58] <clivejo> NateGraham: did you test to see if MTP is working "out of the box" in Artful?
[14:58] <NateGraham> no, but I can
[14:59] <clivejo> mind joining #kubuntu-devel ?
[14:59] <NateGraham> not at all!
[14:59] <clivejo> this channel is for released versions of Kubuntu
[14:59] <NateGraham> gotcha, I'll leave here and go there
[17:23] <kubuntu> hi!
[17:42] <RtMF> oops


[00:32] <chilts> I think Olly usually says hello first, but he hasn't come back here since his holiday I think
[00:37] <ajmitch> morning
[02:15] <hads> morning


[06:49] <Mukondeleli> hi jmagunduni
[08:11] <Kilos> morning all
[08:12] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[08:13] <Kilos> hows theblazehen ?
[08:13] <theblazehen> good and you?
[08:14] <Kilos> good ty
[09:40] <trender> yo yo
[15:27] <inetpro> Kilos: and why you so quiet today?
[15:27] <inetpro> good afternoon
[15:28] <Kilos> hi inetpro no good head day but also trying to find  how the tethering thing works
[15:28] <Kilos> hi neo31 and others
[15:29] <inetpro> eish
[15:29] <inetpro> sorry oom
[15:29] <Kilos> sis got a tab with no 3g so we trying to use my old nokia n900 i think it is
[15:30] <inetpro> tethering is really simple, all you need is a device that can do it
[15:30] <Kilos> dis die lewe maar nou ja
[15:30] <inetpro> time to get a cheap android phone man
[15:30] <Kilos> i find the wireless stuff on the fone but cant see tethering anywhere
[15:31] <Kilos> hopefully i get a wireless card for the pc tuesday if she goes out
[15:31] <Kilos> then will try tether the tablet and the pc
[15:31] <inetpro> Kilos: nee man
[15:32] <Kilos> wat nou
[15:33] <inetpro> you should get a 2nd hand 3g wireless router
[15:33] <inetpro> try
[15:33] <inetpro> many people must have upgraded already
[15:33] <inetpro> especially those with uncapped lite from MTN
[15:34] <inetpro> that was a 2 year contract with a modem for free
[15:34] <Kilos> if the old nokia can do wifi surely the tablet should see it and vice versa
[15:35] <inetpro> and a renewed contract includes another better router
[15:35] <inetpro> Kilos: nope
[15:35] <Kilos> oh
[15:35] <inetpro> Kilos: those nokias were very dumb
[15:36] <inetpro> Kilos: unless it was one of those clever smartphones like the fly had
[15:36] <Kilos> i can get a wireless card for 250 then my pc can also do wireless
[15:36] <Kilos> oh no its old man
[15:37] <Kilos> first fones that opened with querty keypad i think
[15:37] <inetpro> Kilos: but here's what I'm saying, a 3g router can handle both cable and wireless
[15:37] <Kilos> ya but what about my pc then
[15:37] <inetpro> I mean a proper 3g router
[15:38] <inetpro> your pc can connect to it via cable
[15:38] <Kilos> oh
[15:38] <inetpro> you must get a decent 3g router that is like a switch
[15:38] <inetpro> and includes wireless
[15:39] <Kilos> i think i asked here before what they cost and someone said about 1k
[15:39] <inetpro> the new ones yes
[15:39] <Kilos> thats too much for sis to see her mail and get some books
[15:40] <inetpro> but hence me saying, we must try find someone who has renewed his contract and got a new one
[15:40] <Kilos> oh
[15:40] <inetpro> those things will keep working for many years
[15:41] <inetpro> the new ones are faster, but
[15:41] <inetpro> you really don't need faster
[15:41] <Kilos> no
[15:41] <inetpro> the faster it goes the more data it eats for breakfast
[15:41] <Kilos> hi adeebnqo
[15:41] <adeebnqo> hey
[15:42] <inetpro> hi adeebnqo
[15:43] <adeebnqo> lol this feels like that awkward moment when yu enter a room and everyone is lookin' at u
[15:43] <Kilos> hehe welcome to ubuntu-za
[15:44] <Kilos> this is the za community linux/ubuntu help channel
[15:44] <Kilos> if you need help just state what the prob is
[15:44]  * inetpro turning around to look at adeebnqo again
[15:44] <Kilos> lol
[15:46] <inetpro> adeebnqo: you've come to the right place, I think
[15:47] <Kilos> so inetpro how come fone and tablet dont see each other? is wifi wifi
[15:47] <Kilos> ot they talk different languages
[15:47] <adeebnqo> :) I come here once in a while -- I must say, this is the first time I've seen any activity
[15:47] <inetpro> hmm...
[15:48] <Kilos> hehe adeebnqo the guys all work. and help when they have time
[15:48] <Kilos> but im here most of the time for basic stuffs
[15:50] <inetpro> Kilos: well you always need one network resource to act as a wifi access point
[15:50] <inetpro> and access point is tyocally called a hotspot
[15:51] <inetpro> typically
[15:51] <Kilos> so if i put an adapter in pc it can be a hotspot for her
[15:52] <Kilos> all modern software is already in ubuntu surely
[15:52] <inetpro> Kilos: if you get the right adapter I guess yes
[15:52] <Kilos> uh oh
[15:52] <Kilos> are they like graphics cards
[15:54] <inetpro> Kilos: I've never used an adapter directly like that but I'm guessing there should be adapters that you can plug into your usb port
[15:54] <Kilos> ya and the one im after goes in pci socket
[15:55] <Kilos> with little aerial outside
[15:55] <inetpro> Kilos: where do you find that?
[15:55] <Kilos> you lappy peeps forget desktops got lotsa place for adapters
[15:56] <adeebnqo> Kilos : since you're here now. I have a problem, I'm trying to install "af" for appfrog --- I'm behind a proxy. The cmd `sudo gem install -p http:localhost:3128 af` spits out the ff error : http://pastebay.net/1244447
[15:56] <Kilos> the pc shop off van der hoff
[15:56] <adeebnqo> I also ran across this https://github.com/rubygems/rubygems/issues/557 , any ideas?
[15:56] <inetpro> Kilos: you have a model name/number ?
[15:56] <adeebnqo> I should mention, I use cntlm
[15:57] <Kilos> nope inetpro
[15:58] <Kilos> adeebnqo, hang here one of the knowledgable guys will help when they get a chance
[15:58] <Kilos> adeebnqo, is that in the repos?
[15:59] <inetpro> adeebnqo: what is af?
[16:00] <Kilos> oh wait
[16:01] <Kilos> sudo apt-get install gem
[16:01] <inetpro> adeebnqo: try the following:
[16:01] <inetpro> export http_proxy=http://localhost:3128
[16:01] <Kilos> gem is in the repos
[16:02] <inetpro> Kilos: I think he has gem installed already
[16:02] <Kilos> sudo gem install -p dont that need apt-get or aptitude
[16:04] <inetpro> Kilos: no
[16:04] <Kilos> oh my
[16:05] <inetpro> Kilos: a gem is a packaged Ruby application or library
[16:06] <inetpro> Kilos: a gem is a packaged Ruby application or library
[16:06] <Kilos> i see gem in synaptic so thought it would need an apt command from cli
[16:06] <Kilos> Gem is a loadable library for puredata, which adds OpenGL graphics rendering
[16:06] <Kilos> and animation to Pd.  Pd is a graphical programming language and computer
[16:06] <Kilos> music system.
[16:07] <Kilos> why you repeated that inetpro ?
[16:07] <inetpro> oops... sorry for the duplicate
[16:07] <Kilos> lol
[16:07]  * inetpro 's internet is unstable all of a sudden
[16:07] <Kilos> i thought you were trying to prove a point
[16:08] <Kilos> hehe
[16:08] <Kilos> hi Cantide
[16:08] <Cantide> hello :)
[16:08] <Kilos> hi superfly
[16:12] <inetpro> adeebnqo: according to documentation the following syntax should work as well
[16:12] <inetpro> gem install --http-proxy http://COMPANY.PROXY.ADDRESS $gem_name
[16:13] <adeebnqo> tried that and it didnt work
[16:16] <inetpro> adeebnqo: obviously you should have a working proxy at http://localhost listening on port 3128 with access to the internet
[16:19] <adeebnqo> I do, i give up.
[16:22] <inetpro> adeebnqo: you're running on Ubuntu?
[16:22] <adeebnqo> Xubuntu
[16:23] <inetpro> why do you have your proxy on localhost?
[16:25] <adeebnqo> as opposed to do doin' what?
[16:27] <adeebnqo> I'm a bit confused by yur qn
[16:27] <inetpro> if you have a proxy on your local machine then why need a proxy at all?
[16:30] <inetpro> why are you behind a proxy?  I managed to install it though -- we up and running now
[17:21] <Kilos> well done
[17:22] <inetpro> Kilos: looks like every 8ta user is trying to use as much data as possible tonight
[17:22] <Kilos> lol
[17:22] <Kilos> mine xpires end of next month
[17:23] <Kilos> my connection has been good today
[17:23] <inetpro> ek sukkel
[17:25] <Kilos> ai!
[17:36] <Kilos> inetpro, did you read what 8ta replied to my queries
[17:37] <inetpro> Kilos: no
[17:38] <Kilos> they upgraded my tower to 10m and now gonna do a firmware upgrade to 30m to the tower
[17:39] <Kilos> TM-SOC<EMAIL_ADDRESS>mail and query why yours is so bad
[17:39] <Kilos> after my first mail things got better again
[17:40] <Kilos> that was after first mail
[17:40] <Kilos> Customer location:-25.7126, 28.04707.
[17:40] <Kilos> From CHR trace, customer is served with stable and strong signal from site (NER_Moot_Chickens), Cell ID=12574, RSCP -70, Ec/No -4, TP=3.
[17:40] <Kilos> Per description of problem that indicates a reference to previous incident 3382229, site has been upgraded, but there is iub limitation found on site (12mb). Site needs iub upgrade.
[17:41] <Kilos> then i asked is it a hardware upgrade needed and they replied
[17:41] <Kilos> This will be a firmware to the tower upgrade .
[17:41] <Kilos> Once this is done , feedback will be provided to you.
[17:41] <Kilos> inetpro, ^^
[17:42] <Kilos> mine is lekker again
[17:42] <inetpro> Kilos: oh cool
[17:43] <Kilos> if you dont query they think you are happy with the connection
[17:56] <inetpro> Kilos: it's just this evening
[17:56] <inetpro> other days I have been very stable
[17:56] <Kilos> ok
[17:56] <Kilos> but slow
[17:56] <inetpro> I just tweaked my antenna cable a bit, think it might have been a bit loose
[17:57] <Kilos> what antenna cable?
[17:57] <Kilos> you using an outside antenna
[17:58] <inetpro> Kilos: I have a high-gain antenna on the roof
[17:58] <Kilos> greta
[17:58] <Kilos> great as well
[17:58] <inetpro> without it my connection is just about useless
[17:59] <Kilos> actually telkom has some wifi hotspots up there
[17:59] <inetpro> up there?
[17:59] <Kilos> theresapark for one
[18:00] <Kilos> and im sure i saw more closer to the north
[18:00] <inetpro> those are all small little networks around the shops
[18:00] <Kilos> was lookinf where id have to look for one
[18:00] <inetpro> typically around McDonalds and such places
[18:01] <Kilos> ya arent they faster than 3g anyway
[18:01] <Kilos> and you get free wifi everytime you top up
[18:01] <Kilos> mine is over 10 gig already
[18:01] <inetpro> depends what they connect to
[18:01] <Kilos> isnt telkom telkom
[18:02] <Kilos> i googled telkom wifi hotspots
[18:02] <Kilos> or will you still need to get a password from them park peeps
[18:03] <Kilos> adeebnqo, wb
[18:03] <Kilos> you must stay here. you sound clued up
[18:03] <adeebnqo> lol I'll do that
[18:04] <Kilos> not much work helping noobs ubuntu is getting too good
[18:04] <Kilos> where are you adeebnqo ? if i may ask
[18:04] <Kilos> we are spread all over
[18:04] <adeebnqo> rosebank
[18:04] <adeebnqo> ---cpt
[18:05] <Kilos> are there are lotsa guys there
[18:05] <Kilos> ah not are
[18:05] <adeebnqo> guys from uct are here -- so i'd say yes
[18:06] <Kilos> xubuntu comes with xchat as default hey
[18:06] <Kilos> there are more. the fly is there too
[18:07] <Kilos> he is our python expert
[18:07] <adeebnqo> pidgin is better -- sorta brings all my accounts together. facebook, mxit, etc
[18:07] <Kilos> lol i use pidgin as well but for other im peeps
[18:07] <Kilos> xchat here
[18:08] <Kilos> i get lost when everything is in pidgin
[18:09] <Kilos> hmm... peer got him
[18:19] <Kilos> yo Trixar_za
[18:23] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[18:27] <Kilos> hmm... clever peeps we got sisters tablet connected to my pc with a usb cable what do i do to see it?
[18:33] <Kilos> like how do i tell it to share my 3g
[18:36] <Kilos> lsusb shows-- Bus 001 Device 004: ID 18d1:0003 Google Inc.
[18:36] <Kilos> is that it?
[18:37] <Kilos> goooosie ping
[18:48] <Kilos> ok mtp-tools and mtpfs installing
[19:18] <Kilos> hmm...
[19:27] <inetpro> Kilos: ai!
[19:27] <Kilos> ai! what
[19:27] <Kilos> i can see the tablet now but cant get the tablet to share my 3g
[19:28] <inetpro> wat gaan jy maak met mtp-tools?
[19:28] <inetpro> oh, daai is net vir file sharing
[19:28] <inetpro> wel, sovêr ek dit verstaan
[19:29] <Kilos> ja ek dink dis nodig
[19:29] <inetpro> tegnies is internet ook maar net file sharing, maar nouja wel
[19:29] <Kilos> sonder daai twee goed het pc nie die tablet gesien nie
[19:30] <inetpro> net file sharing op ander maniere
[19:30] <Kilos> tegnies onthou ek hoe ek gesukkel het met ssh destyds
[19:31] <Kilos> die android goed is heel nuut vir my
[19:31] <inetpro> ongelukkig sal ek nie daarmee kan help nie
[19:31] <Kilos> maar kan darem boeke aflaai en sleep/drop hulle ne tablet
[19:31] <inetpro> android tethering is very very simple
[19:32] <Kilos> all the links i find are to share to tablets 3g
[19:32] <Kilos> as usual im back to front
[19:38]  * Kilos will sleep on this prob. you guys may join in on the nightmare
[19:38] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:52] <MeesterArend> Hey all
[19:52] <MeesterArend> Just checking to see who're still here :-D
[19:59] <superfly> hi MeesterArend