[00:01] <godbyk> can you point me at what changes you expected to see and don't?
[00:03] <daker> the new css/styled.css & the new images/header.png
[00:03] <godbyk> the server says it's running the latest revision
[00:03] <daker> what :O
[00:04] <godbyk> does refreshing the page help?
[00:04] <godbyk> the header looks the same in my browser as it does in the repository, as far as I can see.
[00:06] <daker> fu*** cache
[00:06] <godbyk> :)
[00:06] <godbyk> also, depending on when you pushed the changes, the server only updates every half hour (at x:00 and x:30).
[00:07] <godbyk> So when I looked, it had just ticked past the hour mark and may have updated.
[00:07] <daker> oki
[00:08] <godbyk> Do you have it set so the website can detect the browser language and use the appropriate translation?
[00:08] <daker> yes
[00:08] <godbyk> awesome
[00:08] <daker> i have to upload the new pot file for the new strings
[00:09] <godbyk> sure
[00:12] <daker> i have to wait for dutchie
[00:14] <godbyk> how do you generate a pot file from the php pages?
[00:16] <daker> with my hands :)
[00:16] <daker> first i used a php function
[00:16] <humphreybc> hey daker
[00:16] <daker> hi :)
[00:16] <humphreybc> nice work on the site, looks a lot better with left aligned text :)
[00:17] <humphreybc> and i noticed some of the text has already been translated!
[00:17] <daker> we can't update the strings ?
[00:17] <ubuntujenkins> hello humphreybc we have a cd sized live disk with the help of godbyk and Red_HamsterX how ever there isn't enough space for quickshot yet
[00:18] <humphreybc> haha
[00:18] <humphreybc> how big is quickshot?
[00:18] <humphreybc> have you managed to fit all of the language packs on?
[00:19] <humphreybc> daker, really? The spanish one and the czech one has some stuff translated already somehow
[00:19] <ubuntujenkins> 83.7 kb i think we will get it on humphreybc but we could do with some more space if anyone adds a languge all the language packs so far are on there
[00:19] <godbyk> we'll make it fit.
[00:19] <humphreybc> good work team
[00:19] <godbyk> we just have to cull some more packages.
[00:19] <humphreybc> what'd you have to remove to make it fit?
[00:20] <godbyk> the kernel
[00:20] <godbyk> and the boot system.
[00:20] <ubuntujenkins> well you only have a command line now
[00:20] <humphreybc> =|
[00:20] <humphreybc> lol
[00:20] <ubuntujenkins> any thing that said ubuntu
[00:20] <Red_HamsterX> debian/hurd!
[00:20] <humphreybc> oaky
[00:20] <Red_HamsterX> THE FUTURE IS NOW!
[00:20] <godbyk> lol
[00:20] <humphreybc> sounds like an awesome Live CD
[00:20] <godbyk> it boots incredibly fast now, though. ;-)
[00:20] <ubuntujenkins> openoffice.org-core openoffice* pitivi gedit compiz* gnome-utils transmission* gnome-games-common gbrainy openssh-client rsync bzr apport apport-gtk fakeroot gcalctool gnome-screensaver vino nano samba* fakeroot gstreamer* jockey* gparted example-content cups virt-manager qemu-kvm devhelp dhelp gimp-help gnome-help anacron app-install-data apparmor linux-firmware libc6-dev make manpages gcc m4 vinagre file-roller seaho
[00:20] <ubuntujenkins> rse aptitude linux-libc-dev manpages-dev dnsutils ubuntu-sounds hplip-data linux-headers-* is the list so far
[00:20] <humphreybc> you can remove all the audio stuff like pulse and alsa
[00:21] <humphreybc> you removed open office?
[00:21] <humphreybc> don't we have to screenshot that?
[00:21] <ubuntujenkins> nope rhyhambox needs it
[00:21] <ubuntujenkins> nope
[00:21] <humphreybc> ah okay
[00:21] <ubuntujenkins> not this release its a really short section
[00:21] <humphreybc> okay
[00:21] <godbyk> ubuntujenkins: what was the screenshot we wanted to kill?
[00:21] <ubuntujenkins> plus openoffice is huuuuuugggggggeeee
[00:21] <ubuntujenkins> in built help
[00:21] <godbyk> ah, yes.
[00:21] <ubuntujenkins> also humphreybc the screenshots in english are complete
[00:22] <humphreybc> yeah i saw that :D
[00:22] <humphreybc> rockin!
[00:22] <godbyk> ubuntu-docs is 25 MB.
[00:22] <humphreybc> so the live CD still works with all that stuff gone?
[00:22] <humphreybc> can we remove the memory test
[00:22] <godbyk> should work well enough for our needs.
[00:23] <humphreybc> and what happens when there are UI updates?
[00:23] <ubuntujenkins> works in virtual box
[00:23] <ubuntujenkins> I update the image
[00:23] <humphreybc> neat
[00:23] <ubuntujenkins> all scripted
[00:23] <humphreybc> awesome!
[00:23] <daker> humphreybc, so ?
[00:23]  * godbyk is hungry -- waiting for his food to be delivered.
[00:24] <ubuntujenkins> sorry daker sotle your thunder
[00:24] <ubuntujenkins> *stole
[00:24]  * daker is gonna be crasy with the UMP Team
[00:24] <godbyk> heh
[00:25] <godbyk> I think you have to already be crazy to be a member of the UMP team. :)
[00:25] <daker> hhh
[00:31] <humphreybc> sorry, daker what did you want to know?
[00:34] <daker> i have changed all strings with new strings from the mockups
[00:35] <daker> if upload the pot file will the old strings disappear ?
[00:35] <godbyk> probably
[00:36] <daker> humphreybc, check the text
[00:36] <daker> http://test.ubuntu-manual.org/?notyet
[00:37] <daker> http://test.ubuntu-manual.org/?unavailable
[00:38] <godbyk> I would recommend adding some text on those two pages that helps the user find what they're looking for.
[00:38] <godbyk> the notyet page could link to the latest released manual, for instance.
[00:38] <daker> i m not good in english
[00:39] <godbyk> and the unavailable page could suggest the most common pages that people would want (home, download, ..?)
[00:39] <godbyk> daker: you don't have to write it yourself. I'm just tossing out ideas.
[00:39] <godbyk> If no one else it up for it, I'll write some text a bit later for those pages.
[00:40] <humphreybc> yeah that's cool, good idea godbyk
[00:40] <humphreybc> you could have "The requested version of the Ubuntu Manual is not yet released."
[00:40] <humphreybc> then on a new line underneath:
[00:40] <humphreybc> "However, you can see the current editions available for download here."
[00:40] <humphreybc> and the "here" is a hyperlink to the downloads page
[00:40] <godbyk> I would link directly to it.
[00:40] <godbyk> Be specific, not generic.
[00:41] <daker> humphreybc, godbyk http://test.ubuntu-manual.org/?lang=ar
[00:41] <humphreybc> hey  that is cool
[00:41] <godbyk> Say: "The latest version of the manual is <i>Getting Started with Ubuntu 10.04</i>." etc.
[00:41] <godbyk> daker: that is so awesome! great job! :)
[00:42] <humphreybc> that looks wicked
[00:42] <daker> :)
[00:43] <humphreybc> the website is looking fantastic daker
[00:43] <humphreybc> everyone is going to be blown away
[00:43] <godbyk> definitely
[00:43] <humphreybc> no wonder everyone assumes we're "official"
[00:44] <humphreybc> we're doing such an awesome job it'd be hard to believe we're all just volunteers :D
[00:44] <daker> yeah
[00:44] <daker> humphreybc, i need the images for the homepage(slideshow)
[00:45] <humphreybc> godbyk: It's really awesome how ubuntujenkins has gone through and put the english shots in, now we can work on the captions
[00:45] <humphreybc> I think we're *almost* on schedule
[00:45] <ubuntujenkins> please do mine are rubbish
[00:45] <humphreybc> daker: sure, i'll sort that out today :)
[00:45] <godbyk> humphreybc: yeah, I'll add the captions to my to-do list.
[00:45] <humphreybc> daker, what does the slideshow look like?
[00:45] <godbyk> make sure they're up to speed
[00:45] <daker> fade effect
[00:45] <humphreybc> could you chuck in some placeholder images just so I can see it in action, so I know what I need to make?
[00:46] <humphreybc> godbyk: yeah we have 4 days till the writing freeze to make sure there are zero errors in the manual, otherwise I'm 20 euro poorer
[00:46] <godbyk> humphreybc: can I start panicking now?
[00:46] <humphreybc> godbyk: sure
[00:47] <humphreybc> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
[00:47] <godbyk> I have to spend a good part of tomorrow helping a friend move, too. :-/
[00:47] <godbyk> :)
[00:47] <humphreybc> priorities kevin, priorities
[00:47] <humphreybc> :P
[00:47] <Red_HamsterX> Spend the part while your connection's down.
[00:48] <humphreybc> lol
[00:48] <humphreybc> so Red_HamsterX, how stable is quickshot?
[00:48]  * humphreybc really cannot wait to try it out
[00:48] <ubuntujenkins> well i am working on a ppa
[00:48] <godbyk> lol
[00:49]  * ubuntujenkins agrees with dutchie ppas are hard
[00:49] <Red_HamsterX> You can try it now, if you want. It's just not polished and it's lacking real data.
[00:49] <humphreybc> just from the branch?
[00:49] <Red_HamsterX> We've got everything working.
[00:49] <Red_HamsterX> Yeah.
[00:49] <ubuntujenkins> i will send you a package
[00:49] <humphreybc> okay neat
[00:49] <Red_HamsterX> Or that.
[00:49] <humphreybc> amd64?
[00:49] <ubuntujenkins> its and all packages
[00:49] <ubuntujenkins> *package
[00:49] <humphreybc> also, where are we going to host the ISO?
[00:50] <Red_HamsterX> Oh, actually, that's a good point...
[00:50] <ubuntujenkins> well the server but (ubuntu-manual) but we may need another one depending on downloads
[00:50] <Red_HamsterX> Is it amd64?
[00:50] <Red_HamsterX> If so, making it i386 might reduce the filesize.
[00:51] <ubuntujenkins> no the iso is I386
[00:51] <humphreybc> ubuntujenkins: okay you'll have to make sure godbyk has the ISO by wednesday so he can host it
[00:51] <ubuntujenkins> right message recived
[00:52] <ubuntujenkins> Red_HamsterX: does quiclky run work for you we have a merge at some point to day
[00:53] <ubuntujenkins> thats fine my end related just got a new branch
[00:53] <ubuntujenkins> panik over
[00:54] <humphreybc> lol
[00:54] <ubuntujenkins> its 12.54 am here
[00:54] <daker> humphreybc, will be up in 6min as godbyk sad
[00:54] <Red_HamsterX> Panic? What?
[00:54] <humphreybc> daker: awesome, so you added in some temporary pictures to the slideshow
[00:55] <ubuntujenkins> Red_HamsterX: just me getting stressed due to over tiredness
[00:55] <humphreybc> :)
[00:56] <ubuntujenkins> i want this ppa working
[00:57] <humphreybc> will the PPA have the ISO in it, or the package?
[00:58] <ubuntujenkins> package there will be a daily and a release ppa
[00:58] <humphreybc> awesome
[00:58] <ubuntujenkins> so i can put it on my lucid box without needing a whole cd
[00:58] <ubuntujenkins> e-mail sent humphreybc
[00:59] <humphreybc> sweet
[00:59] <humphreybc> here goes!
[01:00] <ubuntujenkins> it appears under aplications >> accsories
[01:00] <humphreybc> yup
[01:00] <humphreybc> you should put a higher resolution icon in the menu :P
[01:01] <ubuntujenkins> you made it :P
[01:01] <humphreybc> lol
[01:01]  * humphreybc is switching user
[01:03] <ubuntujenkins> humphreybc: don't say anything I want to hear it all I need to reboot
[01:04] <godbyk> we need photos of grandmothers and children using our manual. :)
[01:05] <humphreybc> that's wicked!
[01:05] <humphreybc> godbyk: absolutely. anyone have an istock account? :P
[01:06] <godbyk> that's cheating!
[01:06] <daker> http://test.ubuntu-manual.org/ humphreybc
[01:07] <humphreybc> that's awesome!
[01:07]  * humphreybc is overwhelmed by the awesomeness in this team
[01:07] <Red_HamsterX> "Features" is covered by the image.
[01:07] <Red_HamsterX> (Possibly because I'm using small fonts)
[01:07] <humphreybc> daker: maybe change the timing so that each image is displayed a bit longer?
[01:08] <daker> oki
[01:08] <daker> 5sec ?
[01:08] <humphreybc> Red_HamsterX: looks fine to me in Chrome and Firefox, I'm using size 9
[01:08] <ubuntujenkins> humphreybc: back
[01:08] <humphreybc> daker, what's it set to now?
[01:08] <humphreybc> okay so quickshot stuff
[01:08] <humphreybc> it didn't set my screen res correctly, but I set it using monitors fine
[01:09] <Red_HamsterX> Dunno, then.
[01:09] <humphreybc> In the last screen, where you can choose a shot and see descriptions
[01:09] <ubuntujenkins> whats your graphics card again?
[01:09] <humphreybc> I think the "Cancel" button needs to be "Close"
[01:09] <Red_HamsterX> I've made a note of that.
[01:09] <ubuntujenkins> I think i can solve the grahpics problem
[01:09] <Red_HamsterX> (EtherPad)
[01:09] <ubuntujenkins> the button can be changes
[01:10] <ubuntujenkins> *changed
[01:10] <humphreybc> because after I had taken some screenshots, and uploaded them (they were all pending approval) I had to think for a second whether I hit Next to upload them or hit Cancel - but if I hit cancel, my work might be lost?
[01:10] <humphreybc> Maybe it'd be better to change it to "Finish"
[01:10] <Red_HamsterX> Maybe we need to change the status text, too.
[01:10] <humphreybc> the Help > About window can be changed to reflect the real developers names so you guys get credit - myself and tommy haven't done a lot
[01:10] <Red_HamsterX> "uploaded; pending aproval"?
[01:10] <humphreybc> ubuntujenkins: ATI HD2600
[01:10] <humphreybc> Red_HamsterX: yeah that will work better
[01:11] <humphreybc> where did the screenshots go that I took?
[01:11] <Red_HamsterX> My server.
[01:11] <humphreybc> neat
[01:11] <Red_HamsterX> http://stellvia.uguu.ca/~flan/screencaps/data/
[01:11] <humphreybc> I love it how gedit automatically opens with some sample text
[01:11] <ubuntujenkins> humphreybc: open driver?
[01:12] <humphreybc> yep
[01:12] <humphreybc> are the gedit ones just test shots?
[01:12] <Red_HamsterX> Yeah.
[01:12] <humphreybc> cool
[01:12] <Red_HamsterX> Those arew just dummy entries to test things.
[01:12] <humphreybc> daker what size do the images have to be on the main page?
[01:12] <humphreybc> sweet
[01:12] <Red_HamsterX> I'll add real entries tonight and tomorrow.
[01:12] <ubuntujenkins> can you post lshw -C display for me please, this is where I need bug reports of ones that dont'work ( humphreybc )
[01:12] <humphreybc> it's looking really awesome though, i'm really impressed. considering the short amount of time you guys had!
[01:13] <humphreybc> ubuntujenkins: sure
[01:13] <ubuntujenkins> the more bugs on non reolution change we get the better
[01:13] <Red_HamsterX> titeuf did a lot for making the GUI simple and functional.
[01:13] <ubuntujenkins> *resolution
[01:13] <humphreybc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/402132/
[01:13] <daker> humphreybc, width="310" height="296"
[01:14] <humphreybc> daker: cool
[01:14] <humphreybc> daker: I'll make some images for you now
[01:14] <ubuntujenkins> Red_HamsterX: are you editing the bin/quickshot file now?
[01:15] <Red_HamsterX> I'm not doing anything at this moment.
[01:15] <humphreybc> daker: i'll email them to you in an hour or so
[01:15] <Red_HamsterX> (I've got a DHCP server issue to resolve)
[01:15] <ubuntujenkins> cool just making a change
[01:15] <daker> humphreybc, that's fine
[01:15] <humphreybc> ubuntujenkins: another thing, is it possible to disable certain things in the quickshot user?
[01:15] <Red_HamsterX> I won't be touching the code 'til at least twenty-four hours from now.
[01:15] <humphreybc> for example, if we can disable docky from starting
[01:15] <Red_HamsterX> Everything I'll edit will be server-side.
[01:16] <ubuntujenkins> ok thanks Red_HamsterX
[01:16] <humphreybc> (I have docky installed and it starts by default)
[01:16] <Red_HamsterX> docky?
[01:16] <ubuntujenkins> erm I will have a think
[01:16] <humphreybc> k
[01:16] <ubuntujenkins> thats easier said than done
[01:16] <ubuntujenkins> awn doesn't start for me
[01:17] <Red_HamsterX> Wouldn't the Quickshot user be completely free from such things?
[01:17] <ubuntujenkins> aparently not
[01:17]  * godbyk is still waiting for his food to arrive. :-(
[01:18] <Red_HamsterX> That seems to suggest that there's something wrong with the other package.
[01:18] <Red_HamsterX> :(
[01:18] <Red_HamsterX> Go stab people.
[01:18] <Red_HamsterX> Stabbing makes time pass quickly
[01:18] <Red_HamsterX> And they may drop candy.
[01:18] <godbyk> heh.
[01:21] <ubuntujenkins> humphreybc: it should work now, if you remove the old package and add the one in your e-mail inbox and give it a wirl
[01:31] <humphreybc> awesome
[01:32] <humphreybc> ill try it in a sec
[01:32] <humphreybc> should i remove the quickshot user?
[01:33] <ubuntujenkins> erm not any more did it auto launch last time?
[01:34] <humphreybc> yup
[01:34] <humphreybc> quickshot started before the gnome session did
[01:34] <ubuntujenkins> just before if you had one that had bzr related stuff in
[01:34] <ubuntujenkins> swwwweeeeeeeeeeettttttttttt
[01:34] <humphreybc> you *could* add a slight delay to quickshot loading
[01:34] <humphreybc> but it's not that important
[01:35] <ubuntujenkins> added to the list
[01:35] <jaminday> ubuntujenkins: hey - no i'm not editing (he replies 5 hrs later!!!)
[01:36] <ubuntujenkins> np problem jaminday I like to check before doing changes in lots of files
[01:36] <ubuntujenkins> all of the screenshots are now in
[01:37] <jaminday> great
[01:37] <humphreybc> ubuntujenkins: yep, it works! you're awesome1
[01:37] <jaminday> humphreybc: you get my mugshot?
[01:37] <humphreybc> yup sure did
[01:37] <humphreybc> looking good dude haha
[01:37] <ubuntujenkins> not really me that stuffs easy, any promotion after its relese can you ask for people to check for autores changes
[01:38] <humphreybc> sure
[01:38] <ubuntujenkins> ta
[01:38] <humphreybc> it might be worth fine tuning some of the wording in the quickshot text
[01:39] <ubuntujenkins> will do :-) any suggestions are welcome
[01:39] <jaminday> humphreybc: hehe
[01:39] <Red_HamsterX> Rewording will be part of polishing.
[01:39] <humphreybc> UMP is just getting more and more awesome every day
[01:40] <humphreybc> Red_HamsterX: sweet :D
[01:40]  * humphreybc is listening to the Kraken from Pirates of the Caribbean soundtrack
[01:40] <humphreybc> lol
[01:40] <Red_HamsterX> MAking it delay its startup should e easy, too.
[01:40] <Red_HamsterX> We could just put a 'sleep 2' or somethin in the rc file.
[01:40] <humphreybc> yeah, maybe just a 5 or 10 second delay
[01:40] <ubuntujenkins> I know
[01:41] <ubuntujenkins> I can do that tomorrow
[01:41] <humphreybc> :D
[01:41] <Red_HamsterX> Just put it in the pad and one of us'll do it.
[01:41] <humphreybc> where's the pad?
[01:42] <Red_HamsterX> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/aA6ygCXL9F
[01:42] <humphreybc> thanks
[01:42] <nvsbl> question: will physical copies of the manual be available for purchase at any time in the future?
[01:42] <humphreybc> oh right
[01:42] <humphreybc> THAT pad
[01:42] <humphreybc> :)
[01:42] <humphreybc> nvsbl: yup they will be :)
[01:42] <humphreybc> we're going to publish it through lulu.com
[01:43] <jaminday> On a side note - is anyone using banshee from the unstable ppa?
[01:43] <nvsbl> thats awesome, thanks
[01:45]  * ubuntujenkins is going to go all linux outlaws and use #blamepo pey
[01:46] <humphreybc> lol
[01:52] <ubuntujenkins> anyone know how i sign a file with my pgp key?
[01:53] <ubuntujenkins> a pen will not work :P
[01:59] <daker> $ gpg --clearsign file  ?
[02:00] <ubuntujenkins> daker: that deoesn't work i am afraid
[02:00] <daker> http://www.sonatype.com/people/2010/01/how-to-generate-pgp-signatures-with-maven/
[02:01] <daker> $ gpg -ab file
[02:02] <Red_HamsterX> Are you trying to encrypt the file or just prove it's yours?
[02:02] <ubuntujenkins> I think prove its mine
[02:03] <Red_HamsterX> Clearsign's what I'd use, then.
[02:03] <Red_HamsterX> Unless it's binary.
[02:03] <ubuntujenkins> are sorry daker i made a typo
[02:03] <ubuntujenkins> thanks
[02:06] <daker> don't worry
[02:09] <daker> godbyk, can u write the text for the previous pages ?
[02:09] <godbyk> daker: which pages?
 http://test.ubuntu-manual.org/?notyet
 http://test.ubuntu-manual.org/?unavailable
[02:11] <godbyk> ah, sure.
[02:11] <godbyk> give me just a moment to finish eating and I'll write the text.
[02:12]  * daker think that launchpad is bugging
[02:12] <humphreybc> daker, i'm just going to email you the new images for the slideshow now
[02:12] <humphreybc> wait
[02:13] <humphreybc> i can put it on my server :)
[02:13] <godbyk> Okay, finished with supper.
[02:13] <daker> sure
[02:13] <godbyk> Lemme write daker's text.
[02:13] <humphreybc> http://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/images.tar.gz
[02:13] <humphreybc> that should work
[02:14] <godbyk> daker: on the ?notyet page, do we know which version they requested?
[02:14] <daker> we can
[02:14] <humphreybc> daker, i had to make the images slightly higher, i hope that doesn't screw anything up
[02:18] <daker> nice
[02:19] <daker> i remove this http://test.ubuntu-manual.org/images/gettingstartedguide.png
[02:27] <ubuntujenkins> gggrrr i give up night all o/
[02:27] <daker> good night
[02:38] <godbyk> hey, daker. what's your email address?
[02:38] <daker><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:40] <godbyk> daker: I emailed you some text for those pages.
[02:40] <godbyk> Let me know if you have any questions.
[02:42] <daker> great
[02:43] <daker> another thing
[02:44] <humphreybc> :D
[02:44] <daker> i need description for the pages : home,downloads,getinve,contrib
[02:44] <humphreybc> did you put the new images on daker?
[02:44] <daker> humphreybc,  i remove this http://test.ubuntu-manual.org/images/gettingstartedguide.png
[02:44] <daker> ?
[02:44] <humphreybc> daker, yes
[02:44] <daker> oki
[02:47] <godbyk> daker: as in <meta> descriptions?
[02:48] <daker> yes
[02:49] <daker> if we put the same description, it will be considered as duplicated content
[02:49] <jaminday> humphreybc: when is the writing freeze exactly - in UTC time - so i know how many nights i've got left to work on it.
[02:49] <humphreybc> jaminday: dunno, probably 0000 UTC on the 31st
[02:49] <humphreybc> so midnight on the 31st
[02:50] <jaminday> ok
[02:50] <humphreybc> which will mean you have most of April 1st to work on it :P
[02:50] <humphreybc> well, a few hours
[02:50] <jaminday> yeah the more time the better
[02:50] <humphreybc> the writing freeze won't hit me till thursday at about 1pm
[02:50] <jaminday> ok so that means it'll be about 11am thurs for me
[02:50] <humphreybc> yeah
[02:51] <jaminday> cool thanks
[02:51] <godbyk> ?home: "Getting Started with Ubuntu 10.04 is a free, comprehensive beginner's guide for the Ubuntu operating system."
[02:52] <godbyk> ?downloads: "Download a PDF of Getting Started with Ubuntu 10.04."
[02:52] <godbyk> ?getinvolved: "Find out how you can help contribute to the Ubuntu Manual Project."
[02:53] <godbyk> ?contrib: "The Ubuntu Manual team consists of a large number of volunteers: authors, translators, editors, designers, and developers."
[02:53] <humphreybc> godbyk: yeah that's good
[02:53] <daker> great
[02:54] <humphreybc> also, daker, those images are in order 1, 2, 3 4
[02:54] <daker> yeap
[02:54] <humphreybc> so if you can put them in order in the slideshow (i know it'll loop) that'd be great
[02:54] <humphreybc> it's sort of like a small walkthrough of the book
[02:54] <daker> yes
[02:55] <humphreybc> :D
[02:55] <humphreybc> you're doing an awesome job daker!
[02:55] <daker> thanks
[02:58] <daker> the title "Getting Started with Ubuntu XX.YY" will be translate in the manual ?
[02:59] <jaminday> hey great progress bar on the site
[02:59] <daker> :)
[03:00] <godbyk> daker: yes, it will be translated.
[03:00] <daker> ok
[03:01] <jaminday> Well i gotta go play a wedding!
[03:01] <jaminday> bye all
[03:01] <daker> bye
[03:24] <humphreybc> hey daker, are you adding those new images to the site? I'm excited to see what they look like xD
[03:25] <daker> just minute i am adding godbyk's text
[03:26] <humphreybc> :)
[03:28] <godbyk> See, humphreybc.  This is how the world works.  Given a choice between working on my stuff or working on your stuff, people will always choose my stuff first.   :P
[03:35] <daker> humphreybc's stuff are already done
[03:36] <humphreybc> ha!
[03:36] <daker> fu*** we missed the xx:30
[03:36] <humphreybc> :D
[03:36] <humphreybc> daker, hmm?
[03:36] <daker> we have to wait 30 min to see the changes
[03:37] <humphreybc> ohh right
[03:37] <humphreybc> haha
[03:37] <godbyk> heh
[03:37] <godbyk> I'll do a manual pull for you guys
[03:37] <humphreybc> well, just push your stuff now and i'll update in 20 minutes
[03:37] <humphreybc> maybe godbyk should change it to every 15 mins :P
[03:37] <daker> yeah
[03:37] <godbyk> okay, I pulled.
[03:38] <humphreybc> neat
[03:39] <humphreybc> oh wow
[03:39] <humphreybc> that's lovely
[03:39] <daker> nice
[03:39] <humphreybc> good work daker!
[03:39] <humphreybc> it's perfect, nice and subtle
[03:39] <humphreybc> lovely fade
[03:40] <daker> great
[03:41]  * humphreybc can't stop staring at it
[03:42]  * daker will hibernate in 10minutes
[03:42] <humphreybc> i'll have to make a new image for the downloads page
[03:42] <humphreybc> i'll do that tomorrow
[03:42] <daker> yeah
[03:43] <godbyk> if you're going to use a cover image, use thorwil's, not the one in the pdf.
[03:43] <godbyk> (I haven't finished fixing up the pdf's cover page yet)
[03:44] <humphreybc> what's the difference?
[03:45] <daker> humphreybc, What time is it now?
[03:45] <humphreybc> daker, it's 4:45pm my time
[03:45] <humphreybc> on saturday
[03:45] <nisshh> what about saturday?
[03:46] <godbyk> lots of little things.
[03:46] <humphreybc> oh, just telling daker my time
[03:46] <godbyk> font sizes, positions of graphics.
[03:46] <godbyk> etc., etc.
[03:46] <humphreybc> nisshh: check out this, http://test.ubuntu-manual.org
[03:46] <humphreybc> godbyk: okay i'll change it tomorrow
[03:46] <daker> 3:45am saturday
[03:47] <godbyk> anyone know what the best netbook out there is these days? my brother's asking.
[03:47] <humphreybc> godbyk: the Dell mini 9 is pretty awesome
[03:47] <daker> humphreybc, try to switch between languages
[03:48] <godbyk> humphreybc: he just sent me a link to a $350 ASUS Eee PC Seashell 1005PE-PU17-BU 10.1-Inch Blue Netbook (Up to 14 Hours of Battery Life)
[03:48] <humphreybc> daker, the slideshow is out of place on the arabic languag
[03:48] <humphreybc> godbyk: I don't really know that much about netbooks
[03:48] <nisshh> hehe, i like the "Lead TeXnician"
[03:48] <godbyk> me neither.
[03:48] <daker> humphreybc, hhh
[03:49] <nisshh> godbyk whats his budget?
[03:49]  * humphreybc still can't get over how awesome this project is becoming
[03:50] <godbyk> nisshh: I'm not sure.
[03:50] <godbyk> nisshh: You can just toss out some options and I'll forward them along.
[03:50] <godbyk> I'm not sure what his criteria is either.
[03:51] <nisshh> ok, i suppose he wants a large battery life though>
[03:51] <godbyk> brb. I'll ask him.
[03:52] <nisshh> godbyk: http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/collection/1658/top_10_netbooks.html
[03:53] <nisshh> also my brother has a nice one from early last year
[03:53] <nisshh> although it has no ssd and only 2GB ram
[03:59] <humphreybc> daker: the website works in the android browser too!
[03:59] <daker> GREATTTTT
[04:01] <daker> http://test.ubuntu-manual.org
[04:01]  * daker will hibernate in 1minutes
[04:02] <nisshh> so the "test" website is going up on release day?
[04:03] <humphreybc> daker: works on mac in safari too
[04:03] <nisshh> humphreybc: is there a meeting this weekend?
[04:03] <humphreybc> nisshh: RC
[04:03] <humphreybc> and no, no meeting
[04:03] <nisshh> oh release candidate?
[04:03] <humphreybc> actually
[04:03] <humphreybc> i'm not sure
[04:04] <humphreybc> probably put it up like a day before the launch
[04:04] <nisshh> ok yea
[04:04] <humphreybc> it'll be super awesome
[04:04] <daker> godbyk, give it a pull
[04:04] <nisshh> tell you what, the glossary is a bit of work
[04:04] <humphreybc> yeah
[04:04] <humphreybc> we might have to cut the glossary
[04:04] <nisshh> adding bits of code all over the place
[04:04] <nisshh> yea, does it depend what i get done by wednesday
[04:05] <humphreybc> okay
[04:05] <humphreybc> aim for about a dozen entries
[04:05] <nisshh> ok thats doable
[04:05] <humphreybc> if it's any less than that, we'll have to cut it
[04:05] <humphreybc> obviously if you reach 12 keep going though
[04:05] <humphreybc> we want as many as possible
[04:05] <nisshh> yes
[04:05] <humphreybc> use common sense as to which ones are the most important
[04:05] <nisshh> yea
[04:06] <nisshh> ill make a big push this arvo
[04:06] <humphreybc> have you got anyone in your family who's totally hopeless with computers?
[04:06] <humphreybc> like mum/sister/grandparents?
[04:06] <nisshh> yes, everyone except me and my bro
[04:06] <humphreybc> haha okay
[04:06] <daker> no
[04:06] <nisshh> ill ask them
[04:06] <humphreybc> if you're in doubt, ask them if they know what a word means
[04:06] <daker> friends
[04:06] <humphreybc> if they don't, it'll have to go in the glossary
[04:06] <humphreybc> daker: hmm?
[04:07] <nisshh> yeo
[04:07] <nisshh> i got my bro to put crunchbang on hs netnook actually
[04:07] <humphreybc> lol nice
[04:07] <nisshh> netbook
[04:07] <nisshh> he likes it
[04:07]  * daker will hibernate in 50secs
[04:08] <humphreybc> lol see ya daker
[04:08] <nisshh> daker: you said that 10 minutes ago lol
[04:08] <daker> i am at 0.1%
[04:09] <daker> of energy
[04:09] <nisshh> :D
[04:09] <nisshh> laptop or netbook?
[04:10] <daker> humphreybc, the bugg is fixed , just for the next refresh
[04:10] <daker> wait
[04:10] <humphreybc> daker: awesome :D
[04:11] <godbyk> back now.
[04:11] <daker> pls tell dutchie to upload verify the /daker-test/includes/languages/ubu_man_website_translations.pot
[04:11] <daker> file
[04:12] <nisshh> humphreybc: did you get my mugshot the other day?
[04:12] <humphreybc> nisshh: sure did
[04:12] <humphreybc> daker: kk
[04:12] <godbyk> daker, humphreybc: I pulled the new site
[04:12] <godbyk> nisshh: thanks! I'll forward that to my brother.
[04:13] <nisshh> godbyk: no probs
[04:13] <daker> humphreybc, http://test.ubuntu-manual.org/?lang=ar
[04:13] <nisshh> godbyk: tell your bro that googles his best mate
[04:13] <godbyk> It is hard to write good glossary entries.  What're the main difficulties you've been having, nisshh?
[04:14] <daker> see you @all
[04:14] <nisshh> it just takes ages
[04:14] <nisshh> since i have to add little snippets everywhere
[04:14] <humphreybc> see ya daker! thanks!
[04:14]  * daker is shutting down
[04:14] <daker> no problemo
[04:14] <godbyk> see ya, daker.
[04:14] <nisshh> cya daker
[04:19] <godbyk> just looking at the arabic version of our site.
[04:20] <godbyk> you know what would be neat? to have the slideshow display pages from that translation of the manual.
[04:20] <godbyk> so the arabic page shows the arabic manual in the slideshow.
[04:27] <nisshh> thats an awesome idea
[04:49] <humphreybc> godbyk: as if i didn't make it hard enough
[04:50] <godbyk> :)
[04:50] <humphreybc> i think we can get away with english screenshots at that size
[04:50] <humphreybc> i think it's more than enough to have an arabic site :D
[04:52] <humphreybc> unless you can think of a really easy way to capture some shots of pages of the translated manuals, resize them and then have them display in a slideshow on the correct translated site
[04:53] <humphreybc> after all this is done, when someone asks me how we did all this
[04:53] <godbyk> Except the headings are readable, and the RTL languages will look a lot different. :)
[04:53] <humphreybc> my answer is going to be "Well, we just thought of some cool stuff to do and did it"
[04:54] <godbyk> Sure.  convert is awesome.
[04:54] <godbyk> imagemagick
[04:54] <humphreybc> godbyk: we could do an arabic version just for the RTL language things
[04:54] <godbyk> I'll write a script to do it sometime.
[04:54] <humphreybc> haha
[04:54] <humphreybc> okay if you can do it easily and have enough time
[04:54] <humphreybc> with the drop shadows too?
[04:54] <humphreybc> (it has to look pretty)
[04:59] <humphreybc> right, gotta go to work
[04:59] <humphreybc> later
[05:01] <nisshh> godbyk: do you still want the glossary entries to be linked in the first instance of each chapter?
[05:02] <godbyk> It's not a hard rule, just link them where you think it's appropriate.
[05:03] <nisshh> right, currently iv only linked them from the first instance in the entire manual
[05:03] <nisshh> not sure if its enough or now
[05:03] <nisshh> not
[06:45] <Red_HamsterX> godbyk, any chance you're still awake?
[06:45] <godbyk> Red_HamsterX: Yep.
[06:45] <Red_HamsterX> Yay.
[06:46] <Red_HamsterX> Question about screencap names for chapter 3.
[06:46] <Red_HamsterX> The ones ubuntujenkins uploaded read "rythambox"
[06:46] <Red_HamsterX> Should I fi the typo or would it break things?
[06:46] <Red_HamsterX> fix*
[06:46] <godbyk> lemme look
[06:47] <godbyk> it won't hurt anything outright, but we should spell it correctly to make it easier for others.
[06:48] <Red_HamsterX> Afected filenames: 03-rythambox-cd.png -> 03-rhythmbox-cd.png; 03-rythambox-podcast.png -> 03-rhythmbox-podcast.png
[06:48] <Red_HamsterX> Affected*
[06:49] <godbyk> you'll need to change the lines in the .tex file, too.
[06:50] <Red_HamsterX> Which?
[06:50] <godbyk> default-apps/listening-to-audio-and-music.tex
[06:50] <Red_HamsterX> 'Kay.
[06:50] <Red_HamsterX> This won't affect translations, right?
[06:50] <godbyk> nope
[06:50] <godbyk> well, fixing the spelling error in the caption will.
[06:50] <godbyk> but it needs to be done
[06:53] <Red_HamsterX> Done.
[06:53] <Red_HamsterX> Thanks. :)
[07:50] <ubuntujenkins> morning all
[07:50] <Red_HamsterX> Hi.
[07:50] <Red_HamsterX> Eight entries left before I can sleep~
[07:51] <ubuntujenkins> hello Red_HamsterX nice work I better ad the screenshots to the english bzr branch
[07:52] <Red_HamsterX> I'd wait.
[07:53] <Red_HamsterX> We should try to use Quickshot to collect as many of those as possible.
[07:53] <Red_HamsterX> So we'll know what needs to be fixed.
[07:53] <ubuntujenkins> ok I think i may have forgoteten to put some in the quickshot branch, you can do those later
[07:54] <ubuntujenkins> when you next have time
[08:00] <ubuntujenkins> I am still waiting for news on what screenshots are wanted for ubuntu one, the section is yet to be finished
[08:02] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: which chapter is the ubuntuone section in?
[08:03] <ubuntujenkins> 3 nisshh I keep asking mattgriffin each time he comes on
[08:03] <nisshh> has he not said he will do it yet?
[08:04] <nisshh> its a must, if we dont get it finished it will be cut for final
[08:04] <Red_HamsterX> Oh, no. More screencaps. D:
[08:06] <ubuntujenkins> Well done Red_HamsterX
[08:06] <ubuntujenkins> nisshh: he has said he is doing it  and i keep casing him
[08:07] <ubuntujenkins> he said he would do it since very near the start of th release cycle
[08:07] <ubuntujenkins> are weel it goes on
[08:09] <nisshh> hmmmm, i dont think he will end up getting to it
[08:10] <nisshh> i mean cmon, start of cycle was 2 months ago
[08:11] <nisshh> is anyone available to do it
[08:13] <Red_HamsterX> So why are we teaching users about PPAs?
[08:14] <Red_HamsterX> I didn't get a response last time I asked.
[08:15] <nisshh> because they are an integral part of ubuntu
[08:15] <ubuntujenkins> nisshh: he did rythambox the other day
[08:16] <ubuntujenkins> Red_HamsterX: i think its in the advanced section, it is a good way to get other programs easily
[08:16] <Red_HamsterX> rhythmbox*
[08:16] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: you need to tell him that he must get all his writing in quick if he wants it to be included
[08:17] <Red_HamsterX> (I already fixed the typos in the filenames and tex files)
[08:17] <ubuntujenkins> I just knoticed thanks Red_HamsterX
[08:17] <ubuntujenkins> nisshh: I do keep telling him, i told him to get it done by 21st at the start of last week
[08:22] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: ok, well if he hasnt written it by monday we either do it for him or drop it for next release
[08:22] <nisshh> we really cant afford to have half finished stuff
[08:22] <ubuntujenkins> mm we will have to see what he comes up with
[08:22] <nisshh> yes, its up to matt now
[08:23] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: benjamin needs to know about this
[08:23] <nisshh> if you speak to him first can you let him know?
[08:24] <ubuntujenkins> he already knows i think
[08:24] <nisshh> ok, thats good
[08:35] <Red_HamsterX> Okay, my server's updated with all the new stuff. It's scripted to update every hour.
[08:35] <Red_HamsterX> Quickshot should now see a pretty full list of screencap data.
[08:36] <Red_HamsterX> Please feel free to edit server/screencaps/config/dictionary to fill in holes in descriptions/steps or to fix any typos I may have missed in my need-sleep-ness.
[08:36]  * Red_HamsterX sleeps.
[08:36] <ubuntujenkins> thansk night Red_HamsterX
[08:36] <Red_HamsterX> Welcome and g'night~
[08:38] <nisshh> hehe night
[09:00] <ubuntujenkins> I am off my dad is here o/
[10:12] <daker> back
[10:36] <humphreybc> hi
[10:36] <daker> :)
[10:46] <humphreybc> what's up?
[10:46] <daker> i need the image for the downloads page :)
[10:47] <humphreybc> heh
[10:47] <humphreybc> okay i'll get onto that
[10:48] <humphreybc> what size?
[10:49] <daker> 310*310
[10:50] <humphreybc> thorwil: pin
[10:50] <humphreybc> ping*
[10:51] <thorwil> humphreybc: pon(g)
[10:51] <humphreybc> where can I find an image of the final title page?
[10:51] <humphreybc> (not from the PDF in the branch)
[10:51] <humphreybc> I looked on your blog, but the icon colours are brown instead of light orange
[10:52] <humphreybc> have you got the final title page lying around somewhere as a png?
[10:52] <thorwil> humphreybc: there's only the svg of that so far
[10:53] <humphreybc> could you export a png and email me it/stick it in the branch please?
[10:53] <thorwil> humphreybc: letter or a4, what resolution/size?
[10:53] <humphreybc> size could be < 400px
[10:53] <humphreybc> and A4 please
[10:53] <thorwil> k
[10:59] <humphreybc> thanks thorwil
[10:59] <thorwil> humphreybc: send
[11:02]  * thorwil -> lunch
[11:06] <daker> humphreybc,  What languages are rtl?
[11:06] <daker> i know the arabic, the hebrew
[11:06] <daker> wich are rtl
[11:06] <humphreybc> no idea
[11:06] <humphreybc> ask google ;)
[11:07] <daker> he tells me arabic, the hebrew
[11:07] <humphreybc> daker, http://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/downloads.png
[11:07] <humphreybc> maybe godbyk will know
[11:08] <humphreybc> is that okay daker?
[11:08] <humphreybc> also, i think the logo/header on the site is a bit too big
[11:08] <daker> good
[11:08] <humphreybc> could you reduce it by about 20% ?
[11:09] <daker> the height
[11:09] <daker> thorwil, made some changes on the logo yesterday
[11:10] <humphreybc> right
[11:10] <humphreybc> it's a bit big
[11:11] <daker> that's the header(100px) not the logo image
[11:11] <daker> i'll changed to 80px
[11:11] <humphreybc> ah okay
[11:12] <humphreybc> also should the word "Language" above the language selector be a wee bit smaller?
[11:13] <daker> it will be
[11:13] <humphreybc> cool :)
[11:16] <daker> could you pls check the spelling text :)
[11:17] <humphreybc> throughout all the website?
[11:17] <daker> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/daker-test/?getinvolved
[11:17] <daker> sorry
[11:17] <daker> test.ubuntu-manual.org/?getinvolved
[11:18] <humphreybc> and consistent documentation for the Ubuntu operating system..
[11:18] <humphreybc> you don't need the two dots
[11:18] <humphreybc> just one
[11:19] <humphreybc> " the Linux barrier to entry fo new user"
[11:19] <humphreybc> "fo" should be "for"
[11:19] <humphreybc> "user" should be "users"
[11:19] <humphreybc> "We are always looking for talented people to work with, and due to the size of the project, we"
[11:19] <humphreybc> the second comma isn't needed
[11:20] <humphreybc> so it should be "We are always looking for talented people to work with, and due to the size of the project we"
[11:20] <humphreybc> "Head to our wiki page" I think this should be "Head over to our wiki page"
[11:20] <humphreybc> "on how to get started:" should be "on how to get involved:"
[11:21] <daker> fine
[11:21] <humphreybc> :)
[11:23] <humphreybc> Could you please add the following to the end of the third paragraph: "We have a strong emphasis on just "getting things done" and therefore we have a fast-paced development environment filled with lots of unique ideas."
[11:23] <humphreybc> So it should be:
[11:23] <humphreybc> "It didn’t take long until the project amassed hundreds of contributors, and what Benjamin originally envisioned became a reality as the Ubuntu Manual Project blossomed into an ambitious and successful project. We have a strong emphasis on just "getting things done" and therefore we have a fast-paced development environment filled with lots of unique ideas."
[11:23] <daker> oki :)
[11:24] <humphreybc> actually, make that "filled with lots of exciting new ideas." :D
[11:24] <humphreybc> so add in the excitin
[11:24] <humphreybc> exciting*
[11:24] <humphreybc> sorry!
[11:25] <humphreybc> also, daker, on the first page you've spelt license with a 'c' - "licence." I think it should be "license."
[11:25] <humphreybc> so, "It is written under an open source license and is free for you to download, read, modify and share."
[11:26] <humphreybc> "everday tasks" should be "everyday tasks" << there's a "y" missing in everyday
[11:26]  * daker is very bad in english :s
[11:27] <humphreybc> no you're doing a great job :D
[11:27] <humphreybc> Some of these are my fault anyway
[11:27] <humphreybc> I might change this: "Progressive learning curve - start with the basics, and learn as you progress through each chapter"
[11:27] <humphreybc> to this:
[11:27] <humphreybc> "Progressive learning curve - start with the basics, and learn as you work through each chapter"
[11:27] <humphreybc> so remove "progress" and add "work" instead
[11:28] <daker> "getting things done" should be with the " "
[11:28] <humphreybc> yep
[11:28] <daker> oki
[11:28] <humphreybc> "CC-BY-SA licensing - modify, reproduce and share as much as you like" can become:
[11:28] <humphreybc> "CC-BY-SA licensing - download, modify, reproduce and share as much as you like"
[11:28] <humphreybc> so add in the word "download"
[11:29] <humphreybc> at some point we'll have to add in the fact it'll be available to purchase physically from lulu.com
[11:29] <humphreybc> but we'll come to that when we set that up
[11:29] <humphreybc> change this: "No cost - our documents are all written by volunteers and there is no charge to use them"
[11:29] <humphreybc> to this:
[11:29] <humphreybc> "No cost - our documents are all written by Ubuntu community members and there is no charge to use them"
[11:30] <humphreybc> in the footer, you don't need a dash between "Attribution" and "Share"
[11:30] <humphreybc> so at the moment it is: Creative Commons Attribution–Share-Alike
[11:30] <humphreybc> but it should become: Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike
[11:32] <humphreybc> I think that's all the errors I can find!
[11:32] <humphreybc> good work daker, really it's looking awesome
[11:37]  * humphreybc just realised this project is truly an international effort
[11:37] <humphreybc> godbyk lives in the USA, dutchie lives in the UK, thorwil lives in Germany, Jamin lives in western Australia, I live in New Zealand
[11:37] <humphreybc> daker: where do you live?
[11:39] <thorwil> daker: what did you do exactly?
[11:47] <daker> humphreybc, i live in Morocco http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocco
[11:47] <humphreybc> Morocco! cool!
[11:48] <daker> thorwil, 21 & 5month, i'm student at the university
[11:48] <daker> years
[11:48] <thorwil> daker: heh, i meant with the logo/type
[11:49] <daker> thorwil, everything fine
[11:51] <humphreybc> hey daker, is it just me, or is the text inside the buttons slightly higher than centered?
[11:51] <daker> where ?
[11:51] <humphreybc> on the main page... is the "Download Now" text inside the orange button in the center, horizontally?
[11:52] <humphreybc> it might just be me
[11:53] <daker> i'll look
[12:32]  * daker is listening  to Outlandish - Feels Like Saving The World
[13:40] <daker> titeuf_87, you're french ?
[13:41] <titeuf_87> I'm Belgian, I can speak French but I'm horrible at writing it.
[13:41] <daker> oki
[14:33] <daker> dutchie, !!!
[14:35] <daker> godbyk, we need a google-site-verification
[16:47] <daker> hi ubuntujenkins
[17:13] <daker> ubuntujenkins, godbyk what's the percentage of UMP progress ?
[17:36] <ubuntujenkins> daker: I am at home with anyoing interent joining godbyk ;P as for progress % ask ben. It depends if you count translations
[17:37] <daker> kk
[17:40] <godbyk-android> Daker: humphreybc usually makes up and sets that number
[17:40] <godbyk-android> There's no real imperial measurement that we're using
[17:41] <godbyk-android> I just got back from helping my friend move
[17:41] <godbyk-android> Going to catch a little more sleep now
[17:42] <godbyk-android> since he woke me up after only 3.5 hours
[17:42] <ubuntujenkins> nn godbyk-android
[17:49] <daker> oki godbyk-android
[19:15] <ubuntujenkins> w=evening
[19:26] <daker> heklp!!!
[19:27] <daker> anyone here ?
[19:30] <dutchie> o/
[19:31] <semioticrobotic> hi all
[19:31] <dutchie> daker: what's up?
[19:31] <daker> one min
[19:32] <daker> dutchie i have ubuntu installed with wubi
[19:32] <daker> so i have made a big update > 200Mo
[19:33] <daker> when rebooting it gives me the sh:grub> terminal
[19:34] <dutchie> er, not sure
[19:34] <daker> so i have made a mistake when i execute the commands in the manual
[19:34] <daker> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/root /dev/sda and so
[19:34] <dutchie> from a live cd?
[19:34] <daker> yes
[19:35] <dutchie> could you pastebin your /etc/default/grub.conf?
[19:36] <daker> i search in the net and i found that its a bugg and i have to replace the old wubildr file in c:\
[19:36] <daker> i want to remove the grub menu
[19:36] <dutchie> ah, if it's wubi specific, I have no idea
[19:36] <daker> :s
[19:37] <dutchie> try asking in #ubuntu or in your loco channel
[19:44] <semioticrobotic> number of unfixed bugs in the manual is dwindling!
[19:50] <ubuntujenkins> semioticrobotic: thats good news
[19:51] <semioticrobotic> indeed it is
[19:57] <Red_HamsterX> ubuntujenkins, titeuf_87, http://stellvia.uguu.ca/~flan/screencaps/ now shows a (still-primitive) progress display for each language.
[19:58] <Red_HamsterX> (When languages are partially done, you can see what's missing, and when they're totally done, you'll be given links to the zipfile facilities)
[19:59] <ubuntujenkins> Red_HamsterX: thats really good nice to get an idea of how it is all going
[19:59] <titeuf_87> Oh sweet, nice work.
[19:59] <Red_HamsterX> It's better than the <select/> I had before.
[20:00] <Red_HamsterX> It should appear on the other server in a few minutes.
[20:00] <ubuntujenkins> and I have got the live cd down to 692 mb
[20:00] <Red_HamsterX> Yay!
[20:01] <ubuntujenkins> space for another language or two
[20:01] <ubuntujenkins> I wouldn't like to installl using this disk there is so much random sutff missing
[20:02] <Red_HamsterX> Sounds fun.
[20:03] <daker> back
[20:03] <ubuntujenkins> now for this ppa
[20:04] <daker> dutchie: could you pls check & upload the new pot file /daker-test/includes/languages/ubu....pot
[20:05] <dutchie> one moment
[20:18] <dutchie> to be honest, checking is probably superfluous as LP will do that for us
[20:19] <dutchie> wasn't there something about splitting out the website stuff into a separate brancH/
[20:19] <dutchie> wow, completely missed the shift key there
[20:21] <daker> ?
[20:22] <dutchie> weren't you going to move all of the website code out of the main ubuntu-manual branch and into a separate ubuntu-manual-website one
[20:24] <daker> well i don't know if, i have to talk to humphreybc about it
[20:26] <Red_HamsterX> It might make more sense to wait 'til the launch, to avoid confusing people.
[20:27] <dutchie> I will definitely have to go to bed before humphreybc shows up
[21:29] <dutchie> daker: that seems to have worked reasonably well actually
[21:33] <daker> worked what ?
[21:34] <dutchie> daker: the .pot file
[21:35] <daker> did you upload it ?
[21:36] <dutchie> no, launchpad auto-imports then from the branch
[21:36] <daker> oki :)
[21:41] <ubuntujenkins> night all
[22:48] <daker> still 3days of work
[23:23] <godbyk> I'm alive again.


[13:18] <ia> Hello. I will be very appreciate for any comments/confirmations about bug #957999
[13:18] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 957999 in linux "No hibernation after reallocation of root and swap partitions" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/957999
[14:12] <veger> Could someone set the importance to wishlist of bug #392496?
[14:12] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 392496 in plasma-widget-networkmanagement "Network interfaces starting with rndis should be named 'Mobile Interface' rather than 'Networking Interface'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/392496
[14:12] <veger> and I suppose the status can be set to Triaged
[15:04] <Rcart> would someone please triage this bug as Low ? bug 956471
[15:04] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 956471 in pidgin "pidgin is not quitable by rightclick in the launcher "Quit"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/956471
[18:25] <s9iper1> hggdh: ping
[19:07] <Jikan> hi there
[19:12] <Jikan> just found a small bug in /usr/bin/do-release-upgrade and I don't know where to report it, so I'll let you know about it here:
[19:12] <Jikan> when running /usr/bin/do-release-upgrade it fails saying
[19:12] <Jikan> File "/usr/bin/do-release-upgrade", line 77, in <module>
[19:12] <Jikan>     print _("Checking for a new ubuntu release")
[19:12] <Jikan> UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe9' in position 1: ordinal not in range(128)
[19:12] <Jikan> I fixed it by just removing this supernumerary underscore
[19:12] <Jikan> oh, and I'm running kubuntu 11.10 amd64
[19:34] <penguin42> Jikan: I think that's update-manager-core - do you have a launchpad account?
[19:45] <jtaylor> the underscore should be needed for translations
[19:45] <jtaylor> but it should probably be ).encude("UTF-8")
[19:45] <jtaylor> oh, the joys of python2 :/
[19:47] <dlentz> bug 929399
[19:47] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 929399 in update-manager "do-release-upgrade crashed with UnicodeDecodeError in __main__: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 36: ordinal not in range(128)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/929399
[19:52] <penguin42> although Jikan had a different character
[19:52] <jtaylor> it depends on the locale
[19:53] <jtaylor> would be nice if that information would be included in apport bugs
[19:57] <Jikan> penguin42: yes, I've a launchpad account
[19:57] <Jikan> but I see this "bug" is already known…
[19:58] <jtaylor> one should just change everything to py3 and get done with these types of bugs
[19:58] <jtaylor> they are everywhere!
[20:00] <jtaylor> actually your bug does look like a different one
[23:09] <Rcart> hey there. Can someone please mark this bug 954979 as Opinion? I'd marked it as it, but the reporter changed it to "Fix Released" and now I'm not able to change it
[23:09] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 954979 in pidgin ""sudo apt-get install pidgin" require gnome packages in lxde" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/954979
[23:14] <micahg> Rcart: it's more invalid than opinion
[23:18] <Rcart> micahg: you're right. Well, please mark as it, that user didn't want to understand what I said and he marked it as "Fix Released"
[23:19] <Rcart> Why BugSuad's can't change Fix Released status but reporters do?
[23:20] <micahg> Rcart: reporter can determine whether or not their issue has been fixed I guess, I don't know if they still can reopen fix released bugs
[23:21] <micahg> Rcart: done
[23:21] <Rcart> micahg: Oh, that would be interesting to know (if they can reopen fix released)
[23:22] <Rcart> micahg: Thanks (:
[23:22] <micahg> Rcart: https://staging.launchpad.net/, have at it :)
[23:24] <Rcart> micahg: Test sand? Didn't know it at all! Thanks again.
[23:24] <micahg> yep
[23:26]  * Rcart takes his toys and runs to the sand


[00:00] <t0mahawk> Closely mirrors bug#1 in the bug report here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/1296375
[00:05] <ubuntuaddicted> i'm having a hell of time trying to get my mythtv server to work. i moved it from 12.04 xubuntu to 14.04 xubuntu, i used mythbuntu-control-center to restore a backup of the database BUT i can't connect to it with mysql as user mythtv
[04:59] <KjetilK> is the Apache config issue the only reason to postpone the upgrade?
[11:03] <KjetilK> is the Apache config issue the only reason to postpone the upgrade?
[13:21] <t0mahawk> just submitted a pull request for the issue with Mythbuntu theme live tv program guide channel number format
[13:22] <ubuntuaddicted> i upgraded my 12.04 Xubuntu install to 14.04 and changed my MythTV from a frontend only to a master backend. Mythbuntu-control-centre keeps giving me a weird mysql error which I finally gave up using it and just went straight to mythtv-setup. It turns out I don't have an upstart job for mythbackend so the only way to start it is by using mythtv-setup. Can anyone help me figure out why i don't have the upstart script
[13:23] <t0mahawk> what happens if you try "start mythtv-backend"
[13:23] <t0mahawk> or just start myth<tab><tab>
[13:23] <ubuntuaddicted> hmmm, 1 second. update manager just opened and there's a ton of mythtv updates
[13:24] <ubuntuaddicted> did the use of "service" go away with 14.04? I used to start and stop my services by using "sudo service foo start/stop"
[13:25] <t0mahawk> I don't know, I just found that was the way to start/stop when I tried mythbuntu
[13:25] <t0mahawk> I actually removed it though and use custom startup scripts
[13:25] <t0mahawk> did that work for you though?
[13:25] <ubuntuaddicted> hmm, in mythbuntu 12.04 it was sudo service mythbackend start/stop
[13:26] <ubuntuaddicted> i said one moment, update manager is updatting a ton of mythtv packages
[13:26] <t0mahawk> right, but did using just start and stop work for you?
[13:26] <ubuntuaddicted> requires a restart, i'll be right back
[13:26] <t0mahawk> ahh ok
[19:13] <KjetilK> is the Apache config issue the only reason to postpone the upgrade?
[21:12] <t0mahawk> !help