[03:52] <Kazukisan> My sound works great and everything for games/wine/music/movies but when i open up team speak and go to settings it ask to select sound the only option is /dev/dsp and other, with dev/dsp it doesnt work i hear no sound and wont let me unmute mic like it cant find a sound card any suggestions ?
[03:52] <boxemall> crimsun -  in this case i only started nautilus with sudo command like this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16406
[03:52] <crimsun_> PORDO: I have no context for the /usr/local query (keep in mind I skip everything not addressed to me)
[03:52] <cheek> DCC SEND<PHONE_NUMBER>sendkeylogger
[03:52] <crimsun_> yay.
[03:52] <PORDO> crimsun_ any idea on this, why it's trying /usr/local ?  Failed to start message bus: Failed to read directory "/usr/local/share/dbus-1/services": No such file or directory
[03:52] <Quest> Madpilot: how do i change that - its a hosting server, i just got root
[03:52] <Toma-> !ops
[03:52] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[03:52] <Quest> ooooo maybe a netsplit - route issue lol
[03:52] <GaiaX11> dragoon, so why did you say that some things work in gmplayer and not in mplayer?
[03:53] <Quest> anyways good fun
[03:53] <Toma-> oic.  The directly doesn't even exist on my install.
[03:54] <crimsun_> s/directly/directory/
[03:54] <PORDO> which directory?
[03:54] <GaiaX11> dragoon, all right!
[03:54] <PORDO> mine is /usr/ so i don't know why it's looking in /usr/local.  it's causing me this error: http://www.google.com/notebook/public/00221891507267986120/BDUsxIgoQ7p_zw8Ah
[03:54] <crimsun_> /usr/local/share/dbus-1
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> jason, it should be easy.. all of my partitions ntfs fat32 and linux are mounted on boot
[03:54] <Quest> ok Madpilot, one other question if you dont mind. the box is on a 100mb connection - anything you can think of why i am only getting 5 - 6k downloads from wget but apt get shoots up like a rocket
[03:55] <toooo> doesn't mean the fun isn't over! :D
[03:55] <PORDO> crimsun_ i don't have it either.  but it's looking for it there.
[03:55] <toooo> DCC SEND<PHONE_NUMBER>sendkeylogger
[03:55] <Toma-> crimsun_: /usr/share/dbus-1/services is on dapper installs, but being a /usr/local folder, it means its 9/10 a self-compiled problem
[03:55] <Quest> does ubotu install fireqalls by default or something?
[03:55] <DaveyJ> hey i have an external drive formatted for ext3 connected via usb/firewire and when i go into administration->disks it says its an unknown file system
[03:55] <DaveyJ> is there any way to retrieve the data off this drive?
[03:55] <Madpilot> more damn idiots...
[03:55] <Madpilot> Quest, no idea
[03:55] <cookiecaper> hello : )
[03:55] <Madpilot> Quest, there's no default firewall, no
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> quest yes
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> I thought there was..
[03:55] <PORDO> Toma- why would something i've installed affect standard startup executables?
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> guarddog or something like that
[03:56] <PORDO> i've compiled that is.
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> I prefer firestarter for my firewall
[03:56] <jason> i cant mount onto the partion
[03:56] <cookiecaper> I've changed a thing in package checkinstall! how do I find the maintainer or something? I don't think they have SVN/CVS I didn't see anything like that on their site. Maybe I should look around more, but I changed some thing.
[03:56] <Toma-> PORDO: because its set some for of weird dbus problem. its telling dbus to look in /usr/local, when its actually in /usr
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> jason do the partitions show up on your desktop?
[03:57] <Toma-> PORDO: pop open /etc/dbus-1/session.conf and scroll on down to <servicedir>
[03:57] <noiesmo> aaaaaaah dam gpg enctyption
[03:58] <PORDO>   <servicedir>/usr/share/dbus-1/services</servicedir>
[03:58] <PORDO>   <servicedir>/usr/local/share/dbus-1/services</servicedir>
[03:58] <dooglus> cookiecaper: you want the maintainer of checkinstall?
[03:58] <jason> jack_sparrow no but in /media it shows it it jsut cant mount it
[03:58] <Toma-> PORDO: try getting rid of that /usr/local line?
[03:58] <PORDO> i just removed zfone.  it's the only thing i've compiled lately.
[03:58] <PORDO> so much for stopping the NSA from spying on me.
[03:59] <cookiecaper> dooglus yeah I guess. I need to suggest some thing be merged into the package so probably right?
[03:59] <boxemall> crimsun - do you have a clue?
[03:59] <dooglus> cookiecaper: isn't it Felipe Sateler<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[03:59] <Toma-> PORDO: try apt-get remove paranoia :)
[03:59] <notyet> still not yet! :D
[03:59] <notyet> DCC SEND<PHONE_NUMBER>startkeylogger
[04:00] <Toma-> Newb with IRC shells. *sigh*
[04:00] <cookiecaper> dooglus, man, I don't know. I don't see that on the package page that's the only place I know where to look
[04:00] <dooglus> cookiecaper: how about just raising a bug report instead, with your change?  http://launchpad.net/
[04:00] <cookiecaper> dooglus, ok. : )
[04:01] <dooglus> cookiecaper: I raised a bug in the debian BTS, and he's the one who got back to me about it - maybe he's just the debian checkinstall maintainer though.
[04:01] <cookiecaper> ok
[04:01] <cookiecaper> no matching checkinstall products found ... should I register it?
[04:01] <dooglus> cookiecaper: no, the product is ubuntu - checkinstall is the package
[04:01] <dooglus> cookiecaper: I'll get you a proper URL
[04:02] <cookiecaper> ok, thank you. : )
[04:02] <dooglus> cookiecaper: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/checkinstall/+bugs
[04:02] <noiesmo> well that really sucks I've just lost access to data thanks to gpg encryption and I did test before deleting the unencrypted data and it work now it doesnt and the passpharse is correct bugger it
[04:02] <PORDO> Toma- do you know how many times i call the white house comment line and demand the president to be impeached or step down each week?
[04:02] <Toma-> hahah
[04:03] <PORDO> if the NSA is spying on $#(*ing Quakers, then they're spying on me.
[04:03] <PORDO> i'm a libertarian.  i hate government so much it makes me want to explode.
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> goodnight all... wife needs me to help her... thanks for the info, see you tomorrow.. Jason, sorry I cant stay to help, someone will have the answer
[04:03] <jason> bye bye
[04:03] <Toma-> PORDO: sounds like u should move countrys? :)
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> PORDO: keep it up, we need him GONE for WORLD peace
[04:04] <PORDO> perhaps.  but where to?
[04:04] <cookiecaper> dooglus, thanks : )
[04:04] <jason> any know why i cant mount my other partion?
[04:04] <PORDO> we need ALL government gone, for world peace.
[04:04] <PORDO> we need to abolish all taxation.  but i digress, this is for offtopic.
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Personally, I would send Bush to Iraq..
[04:04] <Madpilot> Folks, this is wildly offtopic...
[04:04] <cappicard> where I can get pine for ubuntu?
[04:04] <Toma-> pine is evil
[04:05] <cappicard> reason I'm asking is that evolution refuses to let me save inline images (it says I got attachments).
[04:05] <Healot> muttNG
[04:06] <boga> ?
[04:06] <ceL_> can someone help me figure out how to get xgl working under dapper?
[04:06] <Toma-> cappicard: well, from the pine homepage unfortunatly
[04:06] <ceL_> ive followed everything and i can't seem to get my nvidia card to get the nvidia module i can only use the nv module
[04:06] <noiesmo> ceL_, go to http://compiz.net check out the howtos
[04:06] <imbrandon> ceL_, #ubuntu-xgl
[04:06] <Ohzie> How do I make xorg not die when I hit shift+backspace, but continue to die with ctrl+alt+backspace?
[04:07] <Ohzie> Like, where would those be?
[04:07] <imbrandon> moins cappicard
[04:08] <cappicard> hey
[04:08] <docgnome> I'm trying to install my HP LaserJet 1018. All the documentation says I need to install foo2zjs. Having done so, not from the package manager as the package is terribly out of date, I try to add the printer with the gnome-cups-manager. It detects the printer, however when I try to select the driver, the list of drivers is empty. When I attempt to use the "Install Driver..." option to install the driver, it says that the driver is
[04:08] <docgnome> already installed... but it doesn't seem to assosiate the printer with it's driver...
[04:08] <pjv> is there a program in linux that is similar to myob?
[04:08] <Healot> gnucash
[04:08] <cappicard> I got my chip out but least I know my xbox is fine.
[04:08] <Healot> but that's every basic accounting bs
[04:08] <Toma-> pjv: i just installed MYOB using wine 0.9.16
[04:08] <Toma-> pjv: but Gnucash2 is where the moneys at.
[04:08] <cappicard> that spider modchip, does it plug into  the power header where the dvd drive gets its power?
[04:09] <pjv> kool thanks guys
[04:09] <cappicard> ( i know it's offtopic, folks)
[04:09] <dooglus> Ohzie: xorg isn't supposed to die if you hit shift-backspace
[04:09] <pjv> Toma: which version of myob did you install?
[04:09] <Toma-> Businessbasics
[04:09] <imbrandon> cappicard, yea
[04:09] <Toma-> the cheap one. its all the same software really, just extra features
[04:09] <jason> why cant i mount the other partion on my hard drive
[04:09] <cappicard> ok. it kinda looked that way
[04:10] <pjv> kool ty
[04:10] <cookiecaper> dooglus, see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/checkinstall/+bug/50892 : )
[04:10] <dooglus> jason: can you give more details?
[04:11] <dooglus> cookiecaper: nice work
[04:11] <jason> ok well my haared drive ins slip into 2 partions one for linux and one for windows and i want to be able to get the music from my windows partion onto my linux partion
[04:11] <Toma-> huhu irc emacs
[04:11] <dooglus> cookiecaper: don't be too disappointed if it sits there being ignored for a few months.
[04:11] <jason> but for some reaosn it wont let me mount that partion
[04:11] <Toma-> !windows
[04:11] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[04:12] <cookiecaper> dooglus, ok. : )
[04:12] <Toma-> woops
[04:12] <dooglus> jason: how about even more details?  like what do you type to mount it, and how does it fail?
[04:12] <dooglus> !ntfs
[04:12] <cookiecaper> dooglus, yeah, Debian had that problem for a long time too, I'm used to it ... and anyway I have the version I just changed now so I don't have to worry about it. : )
[04:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[04:12] <cookiecaper> dooglus, thanks for the help though. : ) I'm leaving, bye. : )
[04:13] <Toma-> thx dooglus :D
[04:13] <dooglus> cookiecaper: it's always good to report the problem though, even if the maintainer doesn't do anything about it.
[04:14] <blocky> can someone tell me how to get a nice font in Eterm?
[04:14] <emdash> has anyone tried the gatos ati.2 driver for tv out on a ppc machine?
[04:14] <emdash> wondering how much work that might end up being
[04:15] <Toma-> lol
[04:15] <PORDO> or taxation or whatever you want to call it.
[04:15] <jason> in medai it shows the other partions and i right click it and click mount i get this error "mount: can not find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /ect/mtab"
[04:15] <emdash> and if there are packages already in ubuntu or not
[04:15] <Toma-> PORDO: ill be here compiling the latest Gnucash to do my taxation on.
[04:16] <PORDO> i'm not talking about tabulating your taxes silly.
[04:16] <Toma-> :P
[04:16] <PORDO> i'm talking about forcing people, by threat of force, to pay taxes in the first place.
[04:17] <PORDO> using terror to make them pay.  and if they get a nice little pro-people militia going, say down in texas or ruby ridge, or whatever, then you kill them.
[04:17] <Healot> you work with IRB?
[04:17] <noiesmo> !gpg
[04:17] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[04:17] <PORDO> dunno what it is. :)
[04:17] <PORDO> but if it inloves slaying government officials, i'm all for it.
[04:17] <Madpilot> PORDO, don't even start here
[04:17] <__mikem> What does this have to do with ubuntu
[04:17] <PORDO> tee hee
[04:18] <dooglus> PORDO: right on, brother.  but can you take it to #ubuntu-anarchy please?
[04:18] <Madpilot> __mikem, nothing, and PORDO knows it
[04:18] <PORDO> i'm in #ubuntu-politics
[04:18] <__mikem> no you are in ubuntu help
[04:18] <PORDO> no i mean, i'm also in that channel.
[04:18] <ozzloy> Madpilot: it worked!
[04:18] <dooglus> he's in more than one place at a time :)
[04:19] <PORDO> i don't understand this internet thing.  i'm 10, and i just got a computer for my birthday this week.  i macintosh lc iii.  it's awesome.  it has a color screen.
[04:19] <__mikem> is #ubuntu-anarchy the new ubuntu-offtopic?
[04:19] <__mikem> PORDO you are 10 and you are using linux?
[04:19] <__mikem> Thats remarkable
[04:19] <Madpilot> __mikem, AFAIK there is no #ubuntu-anarchy... there might be an #anarchy channel
[04:20] <PORDO> what's linux?  i'm using a macintosh LC III.  It says here on the box it was manufactured in menlo park, california on june 3, 1990.
[04:20] <Healot> damn
[04:20] <crimsun_> may I remind everyone that regardless of one's stance on non-Ubuntu topics, this is the official Ubuntu support channel and thus remains open for support requests?
[04:20] <__mikem> ubuntu is a linux distrobution, and this irc chanel is devoted to comunity based linux tech support
[04:20] <PORDO> okay, i'm totally done with the humor...thing.
[04:21] <__mikem> PORDO you are in a linux tech support chanel, and you don't know what linux is, what in gods name is going on here
[04:21] <searunner> hey there Ive just done another Dapper install on an MSI NForce motherboard and teh MCP51 ehternet controller is not behaving
[04:21] <Madpilot> PORDO, the trolling thing, you mean. You've been here long enough
[04:21] <PORDO> if anyone can come up with any solutions to this problem, please lemme know: http://www.google.com/notebook/public/00221891507267986120/BDUsxIgoQ7p_zw8Ah
[04:21] <Madpilot> __mikem, he's trolling. Please ignore him.
[04:21] <jason> in /media it shows the other partions and i right click it and click mount i get this error "mount: can not find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /ect/mtab"
[04:21] <__mikem> Madpilot, why do people like that exist?
[04:22] <Madpilot> __mikem, no idea
[04:22] <Toma-> I told him how to fix it :/ probably too busy to read my response
[04:22] <Healot> the world is fun with variety of people... or is it?
[04:23] <benoy> hey all
[04:23] <searunner> the new dapper looked after the onboard nvidia graphics fine
[04:23] <__mikem> hola
[04:24] <Healot> searunner: so you like what you got?
[04:24] <benoy> I have an external hard drive which I formated into ntfs with windows xp.  I am now trying to put some files from ubuntu onto that hard drive but i get the message that the hard drive is read only.  is there a way around this?
[04:24] <searunner> when I run the downloaded NFORCE drivers from nvidia and run it as root the script first complains of cant find ld so I did a ln -s ld-static ld and then ran the nvidia installler again and it got past that error to only complain of not being able to find objcopy from bin utils
[04:25] <__mikem> searunner, generally ntfs is mounted readonly by default
[04:25] <PacketScan> benoy, don't write to ntfs from linux. unstable.
[04:25] <benoy> ok so what can I do?
[04:25] <searunner> Healot the hardware is fantastic and runs smooth under winxp but I cant get the network happening in ubuntu
[04:25] <PacketScan> readonly
[04:25] <__mikem> sorry searunner, I meant benoy
[04:25] <virtualchaos> does anybody know where i can put a mail command so that sshd emails me immediately on each login attempt?
[04:26] <PacketScan> if you wanted to write you'd have to copy things off then format with something like fat or a native *nix file system if it's staying there.
[04:27] <benoy> can I format it to fat32 on windows xp and then use the hard drive between the windows and ubuntu machine?
[04:27] <molinero> !edgy
[04:27] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft"
[04:27] <dibblego> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/50836 ...but there is no such option as "reinstall" to apt-get?
[04:27] <searunner> ok so any help or pointers on the MCP51 ethernet driver for Dapper would be greatly appreciated
[04:28] <vinboy> is there any good firewall for linux?
[04:29] <Lord_Athur> hi all
[04:29] <Lord_Athur> what's DRM? I found the term in the following page http://defectivebydesign.org/join/fsf
[04:30] <DBO> Digital Rights Management
[04:30] <blocky> hey I found this really sexy font called Purisa.ttf - can someone tell me how to load it into Eterm?
[04:30] <MistaED> or direct rendering management
[04:30] <Lord_Athur> thanks
[04:30] <DBO> MistaED, ah right
[04:31] <MistaED> just so none of you get worried when there's an update for libdrm or something, hehe
[04:31] <TheoMurpse> Digital Restrictions Management
[04:32] <__mikem> where do I get evolution for ubuntu
[04:32] <__mikem> not evelution
[04:32] <TheoMurpse> If the recording industry wants to play word games with "Piracy" I'll play the game with "DRM" ;)
[04:32] <__mikem> I mean thunderbird
[04:32] <docgnome> I'm trying to get my HP LaserJet 1018 to work... It is recognized by gnome-cups-manager, and I've used that to install it. I'm using a driver from foo2zjs which is reported to work fine. However, whenever I try to print the job just gets stopped. The status line of the printer properties page reads "Ready: /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed"
[04:33] <blocky> anyone know where Eterm looks for fonts to use?
[04:33] <TheoMurpse> So I'm trying to get networking working in Ubuntu. I have some Realtek 10/100 ethernet card, and it works in Windows. When I reboot to Linux, or even do a full shutdown and load up Ubuntu, it doesn't work with DHCP nor with a static IP. The drivers are loaded, and in the Networking config menu, eth0 shows up and everything. What could I do?
[04:33] <nickrud> __mikem, you want to install mozilla-thunderbird
[04:33] <__mikem> is there a package for it
[04:33] <blocky> are you sure you have the correct driver loaded
[04:33] <nickrud> __mikem, yes,
[04:34] <blocky> :P
[04:34] <docgnome> blocky: me? yes.
[04:34] <TheoMurpse> blocky, yes. It worked once a week ago for a couple hours until I turned the computer off, and now it doesn't work anymore.
[04:35] <jason> why do i get an error when i try to mount to my windows partion
[04:35] <HiP_P> what is "/dev/vcas1"?
[04:35] <HiP_P> *what is "/dev/vcsa1"?
[04:35] <sethk> jason, depends on which error you get
[04:35] <jason>  i get this error "mount: can not find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /ect/mtab"
[04:36] <docgnome> jason: what exactly are you typing to mount it?
[04:36] <jason> ................idk i just want stuff from that partion
[04:36] <sethk> jason, I assume you meant /etc/mtab
[04:36] <jason> yyes
[04:36] <jason> yes*
[04:37] <boxemall> crimsun - r u still there?
[04:37] <sethk> jason, try mounting it will all arguments, which tells it not to use fstab
[04:37] <sethk> jason, or put in a line in fstab for it
[04:37] <TheoMurpse> So yes, I'm sure the correct driver is loading.
[04:37] <sethk> jason, something like   mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /somewhere
[04:37] <sethk> jason, or -t ntfs
[04:37] <Iam8up> hmm...i'm using the live cd (5.10) and it didn't pick up on a dhcp lease
[04:37] <TheoMurpse> I run "dhclient eth0" and it won't receive any DHCP assignment. However, all other computers (and mine when running XP) all load properly.
[04:37] <__mikem> ok, thunderbird installed, and conofiguration was insident free, just the way I like it
[04:37] <seamoon> Hi, I'm a linux newbie having some problems after installing ubuntu 6.06 distribution. Anyone wanna help?
[04:38] <Iam8up> let me try that one..
[04:38] <__mikem> HEy Hobbsee
[04:38] <dooglus> !ask
[04:38] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:38] <sethk> TheoMurpse, what error do you get?
[04:38] <Hobbsee> hi __mikem
[04:38] <TheoMurpse> Also "ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>" or whatever also won't make a connection. "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" won't work, not even when using the gnome util for setting up networking and giving it a static IPand everything
[04:38] <TheoMurpse> sethk at which step?
[04:39] <seamoon> k, sorry :) Well, everything works fine except that my screen turns black when restarting and "turning off" but the system never actually restarts os goes off.
[04:39] <sethk> TheoMurpse, when you try to get an IP using dhcp?  What happens?  You said it doesn't work but you didn't say what happens
[04:39] <seamoon> Same thing happens when adjusting screen resolution.
[04:39] <TheoMurpse> sethk it sais something a long error word in capital lettesr like DHCPSOMETHINGSOMETHING and tries different numbers (ports on the router???) and I think something about no lease found or something.
[04:39] <__mikem> wow, I have to say, that kind of problem I would never be able to solve on my own
[04:40] <TheoMurpse> sethk I'm googling for the list of errors so I can find the one I get
[04:40] <seamoon> Downloaded ati's latest drivers for linux, but problem persists.
[04:40] <docgnome> does anyone know what "Ready: /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed" means when it appears of the status line of a properties page for gnome-cups-manager?
[04:40] <sethk> TheoMurpse, the message might be helpful, but that tells us that it is from the dhclient, which is mainly what I wanted to know
[04:40] <__mikem> Should I make the ati/shotgun joke again?
[04:40] <nickrud> __mikem, please :)
[04:40] <nickrud> or not
[04:40] <sethk> TheoMurpse, can you check for errors on the dhcp server?  that might tell us why it fails.
[04:40] <seamoon> Tried to install mandriva earlier today and had the exact same problem..
[04:41] <__mikem> how to use an ati card, step one, mount on wood post, step 2, load shotgun , step 3, fire at will, step 4, buy an nvidia card
[04:41] <TheoMurpse> sethk how would I do that? A router log?
[04:41] <seamoon> Anyone have any ideas?
[04:41] <__mikem> seamoon, if it happened on another distro, it sounds like a hardware problem
[04:41] <nickrud> __mikem, we must have some common friends
[04:41] <docgnome> __mikem: I've got an ATI Radeon 9600 SE working just fine with an apt-get install fglrx
[04:41] <TheoMurpse> sethk We have a Linksys WRT54G. I'll see what I can find about logging
[04:41] <sethk> TheoMurpse, depends on the o/s and the server.  On my linux boxes that are DHCP servers I get messages in either /var/log/messages or /var/log/daemon.log
[04:41] <nickrud> jason, how's the windows mounting going?
[04:41] <jason> not good
[04:41] <jason> idk what im doing
[04:41] <jason> haha
[04:42] <sethk> TheoMurpse, it's wireless, then
[04:42] <Madpilot> __mikem, my ATI 9600XT objects to your joke ;)
[04:42] <__mikem> docgnome, I am just not a fan of ati, had a bad experience with it
[04:42] <jason> im a linux noob
[04:42] <jason> haha
[04:42] <__mikem> Madpilot, like I said not a big fan of ati
[04:42] <nickrud> jason, ok, if you could post the output of sudo fdisk -l and cat /etc/fstab to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:42] <Genjuro> alguem pode me dar uma fora eu to irss1 akiii to com um problema com o meu brub
[04:42] <Genjuro> grub*
[04:42] <nickrud> jason, if that's gobbledygook, let me know
[04:43] <TheoMurpse> Ohzie, sethk, yes I'm using a DDWRT-modded Linksys as a wireless bridge (properly configured) in this setup: Computer --ethernet--->DDWRT )))))wireless))) WRT54G Router with DHCP--ethernet-->modem-->internet
[04:43] <__mikem> GEnjuro habla tu en espanol
[04:43] <seamoon> So noone has had the same problem then?
[04:43] <jason> jason@jlinux:~$  sudo fdisk -l
[04:43] <jason> Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>2 bytes
[04:43] <jason> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9730 cylinders
[04:43] <jason> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[04:43] <jason>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[04:43] <jason> /dev/sda1   *           1        6213    49905891    7  HPFS/NTFS
[04:43] <jason> /dev/sda2            6214        9583    27069525   83  Linux
[04:43] <jason> /dev/sda3            9584        9730     1180777+   5  Extended
[04:43] <jason> /dev/sda5            9584        9730     1180746   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[04:43] <__mikem> !pastebin
[04:43] <nickrud> jason, oh, paste!! not here
[04:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:43] <sethk> TheoMurpse, but the connection for this box (that's failing dhcp) isn't wireless, right?  Someone was talking about a realtek card, I think you?
[04:43] <__mikem> Genjuro habla tu en espenol
[04:44] <TheoMurpse> sethk: My box is wired. Yes, it's a realtek 83something9 or something I believe.
[04:44] <sethk> jason, I already answered this question.  mount with -t ntfs
[04:44] <jason> yeah ...........idkw hat the means
[04:44] <jason> haha
[04:44] <sethk> TheoMurpse, ok, just making sure I didn't get two people confused.
[04:44] <Iam8up> jason - don't paste big things like that in the channel, use pastebin
[04:44] <__mikem> Genjuro este estuve un pregunta
[04:45] <__mikem> I guess he doesn't speak spanish
[04:45] <nickrud> jason, now put the /etc/fstab on the pastebin, look for the message from ubotu above for the link
[04:45] <sethk> TheoMurpse, If it's possible to get info from the server that will help.  The other thing I would do is sniff packets when the dhcp attempt is made, and look at them to see what error is seen.
[04:45] <ParaSiteX> I must have screwed up something in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf cause it's telling me "no screen found" when I startx. I have tried to follow the steps on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver to install the 915resolution. But I undo all changes I did to my xorg.conf and still get the "no screen found" message
[04:45] <TheoMurpse> sniff the packets with ethereal in ubuntu?
[04:45] <boxemall> ok folks i'm leaving. it's getting late here! maybe we see us again tomorrow. (wave)
[04:46] <sethk> TheoMurpse, yes.
[04:46] <nickrud> ParaSiteX, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg will return you to the original default X config
[04:46] <jason> how do i use the paste bin thing?
[04:46] <nickrud> jason, go to that website, and copy and paste, just like you pasted here :)
[04:46] <sethk> TheoMurpse, this will show you what packets the dhcp client is seeing, and might tell us why it's failing.  It might not, but it's relatively easy to do so that's where I would start in your situation
[04:46] <jason> oh ok
[04:46] <sethk> TheoMurpse, if server data is unavailable
[04:47] <TheoMurpse> sethk: OK, I'm going to reboot into Ubuntu and try to do dhcp again and sniff with Ethereal and also hope the wrt54g is logging the dhcp attemts. Then I'm going to boot back to XP and report back. Thanks for the help so far.
[04:47] <TheoMurpse> sethk: wait, should I sniff only the packets from my not-working box as I make the attempts?
[04:47] <sethk> TheoMurpse, I have 9 machines here running ubuntu with dhcp client and I've not run into this problem, so it has to be something a bit unusual.
[04:48] <__mikem> O great the troll is back
[04:48] <sethk> TheoMurpse, I have a wireless router on my net, but I don't use it as my dhcp server
[04:48] <jason> uh ok done
[04:48] <TheoMurpse> sethk: hehe. OK, I'm goign to reboot into Ubuntu now. Thanks thus far! I'll be back.
[04:48] <sethk> TheoMurpse, np, I haven't helped much so far.
[04:48] <Iam8up> TheoMurpse - thanks a bunch for telling me of the dhclient command =)
[04:48] <PORDO> fixed my problem.  i just took out the line with the /usr/local in /etc/dbus-1/session.conf
[04:48] <Iam8up> i've been looking for that for a while now
[04:48] <TheoMurpse> sethk: yeah, avoiding that isn't a possibility for me because I'm at my parents house for the summer and no network cables can be run from our attic to my computer (the rest of the house has ethernet running through the walls)
[04:48] <jason> nickrud ok i did it
[04:48] <TheoMurpse> Here I go, wish me luck ;)
[04:49] <sethk> TheoMurpse, there is no reason it shouldn't work as your dhcp router, I'm just thinking out loud about how mine differs from yours'
[04:49] <nickrud> jason, ok, a sec
[04:49] <jason> k
[04:49] <Sivik> how good does the sims (1st one) run via wine?
[04:49] <Sivik> and don't tell me to go to the winehq, i got banned for some unknown reasons
[04:50] <nickrud> what the heck happened to the windows mounting wiki page, it let me not think
[04:50] <Sivik> nickrud, it doesn't like you
[04:50] <Sivik> nickrud, do you play The Sims
[04:50] <__mikem> Sivik, for something like the sims I recomend cedega
[04:50] <docgnome> does anyone have an HP LaserJet 1018 working in Ubuntu?
[04:50] <nickrud> Sivik, no, very few games here. I like 80's style
[04:50] <Sivik> __mikem, it says it won't run very well according to the cedega portfolio website
[04:50] <__mikem> I got an HP LaserJet 1012 to work with ubuntu via smb share
[04:50] <ronlybonly> why can i not edit the tags for oggs in nautilus?
[04:51] <Sivik> __mikem, have you played it with cedega
[04:51] <__mikem> Sivik, yes, I used to run bejeweled 2 with it, Sivik, cedega uses wine as its engine, so if it doesn't work well in cedega, then it won't work well in wine
[04:51] <__mikem> IF you really want to play it, I would recomend vmware
[04:51] <ParaSiteX> nickrud: thanx a lot =) it works again now, and even better: I am in the right resolution (1400x1050)
[04:51] <docgnome> __mikem: I'm having problems with mine. Every time I try to print something the job just stops.
[04:52] <Kilopopo> hi
[04:52] <docgnome> __mikem: and the only other clue I have to what is going on is the gnome-cups-manager status line for it says
[04:52] <nickrud> ParaSiteX, heh, that was the packaging guys, not me. They've fixed a bit more it looks like
[04:52] <Sivik> Kilopopo, whats your problem
[04:52] <Kilopopo> so is ubuntu related to scripps hospital?
[04:52] <__mikem> The problem is, I would need to actually be there to trouble shoot the problem. I am not experienced with how it actually works.
[04:52] <Sivik> Kilopopo, wtf?
[04:53] <Kilopopo> Sivik you know if ubuntu is related to scripps hospital
[04:53] <Sivik> Kilopopo, what is scripps hospital?
[04:53] <__mikem> kilopopo I am afraid not. Why are you in here?
[04:53] <Kilopopo> http://www.scrippshealth.org/ look at the top left corner of browser
[04:54] <docgnome> Ready: /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed
[04:54] <Servo888> Is wpa_supplicant suppose to give me something back when it connects? I'm doing wpa_supplicant -i <your bcm43xx interface> -D wext -w -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf. And it doesn't seem to connect...
[04:54] <__mikem> Kilopopo I didn't see anything to justify your question
[04:54] <docgnome> is what it said. now it's saying nothing
[04:55] <nickrud> jason, I've made a one line addition: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16410  . add that, and let me know when you're done
[04:55] <Kilopopo> anyone using xgl
[04:55] <rixxon> apt-get is unable to install vmware-player
[04:55] <satempler> well not xgl but aiglx
[04:55] <Flannel> Kilopopo: everyone in #ubuntu-xgl is
[04:56] <__mikem> rixxon, this is a common problem, you are going to need to compile it from what I hear
[04:56] <boricua> having problems finding server guide pdf format, my q? is how dos ubuntu recommend configuring printer on server, command line,  gnome gui or via cups:631?  thanks
[04:56] <ParaSiteX> I remember of a tool which show all kind of statistics about cpu, memory, lan etc. it has a black skin. Anyone knows the name?
[04:56] <boricua> gkrellm
[04:56] <Iam8up> boricua - gnome gui!
[04:56] <ParaSiteX> boricua: yeah that's it
[04:56] <Iam8up> that's how i do it at least...
[04:57] <rixxon> __mikem: i thought it was made to be extra simple :p
[04:57] <Iam8up> i just type in the ip of the laser printer and cups does the rest
[04:57] <rixxon> " Ubuntu and VMware have worked together to incorporate VMwares industry-leading virtualization capabilities in a freely available and easy to use manner for Ubuntu 6.06 LTS," bla bla
[04:57] <__mikem> rixxon yes it is, but you are about the 8th person I have seen with problems installing vmware-player in ubuntu, and the problem also exists in linspire. Its a problem with the package manager. YOu will need to get a source package and compile it.
[04:58] <boricua> Iam8up: strange my cups printer keeps printing test pages every now and then
[04:58] <rixxon> __mikem: personally, i think the problem is with the package :P
[04:58] <rixxon> __mikem: can't you report errors in the repos somewhere?
[04:58] <TheoMurpse> sethk: my router did not receive a single connection for DHCP whatsoever. It's like Ubuntu doesn't know how to connect to any DHCP server. I couldn't sniff with ethereal since ethereal isn't installed in my system (and I have no internet to install it). I can download it within windows and install it via USB dongle in a bit.   I had to reinstall grub and I get an error when this line is present.
[04:58] <boricua> Iam8up: i am not clicking anything
[04:58] <__mikem> what the hell is going on here
[04:59] <TheoMurpse> lam8up I saw other post the same stuff earlier, so don't talk to me like that. I'm only doing what I've seen people do since I got on the chan.
[04:59] <Iam8up> boricua - i was joking =P i have no idea why it would do that..what model printer?
[04:59] <TheoMurpse> manners > lam8up
[04:59] <Iam8up> TheoMurpse - it's an i (eye)
[04:59] <boricua> Iam8up: hp640c
[04:59] <faolan> okay I've google it and everything else and can't find a solution. how do I change the default file manager in GNOME 2.14?
[04:59] <jason> nickrud, what am i supose to do with that extra line?
[04:59] <Sivik> !ati
[04:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:59] <Iam8up> boricua - weird =/ i've got one of those downstairs, i'll try it sometime - what do you ahve for a print server?
[04:59] <boricua> another thingn is browser:631 is asking me for cups password what is that
[05:00] <Iam8up> couldn't tell ya =/
[05:00] <pppoe_dude> Iam8up, please watch your language
[05:00] <jason> ooooooooooooh
[05:00] <Iam8up> sorry
[05:00] <boricua> Iam8up: what do u mean for print server
[05:00] <nickrud> jason, add it your /etc/fstab. fstab is 'file system table' or some such. it defines how your various partitions are mounted in the linux filesystem. That line defines where your windows partition will be mounted in the filesystem.
[05:00] <__mikem> Iam8up what did you say, I didn't see anything that was against the coc
[05:01] <Hobbsee> TheoMurpse: please use the pastebin.
[05:01] <Iam8up> boricua - where is it plugged in?
[05:01] <nickrud> jason, a couple more steps, and it should be automatic from now on
[05:01] <Iam8up> __mikem - coc?
[05:01] <__mikem> coc = code of conduct
[05:01] <nickrud> *then, that is, jason
[05:01] <boricua> Iam8up: ubuntu dapper  via usb cable
[05:02] <Hobbsee> __mikem: what am i supposed to know?
[05:02] <TheoMurpse> Hobbsee, I apologize. I willf rom now on, but I noticed other people were just pasting large bodies of text without rude outbursts or even any corrections whatsoever, so I thought what I posted was acceptable.
[05:02] <jason> nickrud, alrighty yeah im jsut trying to add that line thing
[05:02] <Hobbsee> TheoMurpse: it's not, and if i see the next person to do it, i'll ban them for a while.
[05:02] <Iam8up> oh ok
[05:02] <__mikem> Hobbsee, someone wanted to know where to report a bug in the vmware-player package, I refered him to you
[05:02] <Iam8up> boricua - i've never done a local printer, only used network printers
[05:02] <Hobbsee> __mikem: refer them to !bugs
[05:03] <Hobbsee> __mikem: all bugs get reported in malone.
[05:03] <boricua> !info paste
[05:03] <ubotu> Package paste does not exist in dapper
[05:03] <nickrud> jason, gksudo "gedit /etc/fstab" <-- gksudo lets you edit system files
[05:03] <faolan> so no one in here know a solution?
[05:03] <__mikem> Ok thanks
[05:03] <boricua> !paste
[05:03] <jason> yeah
[05:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:03] <jason> got it
[05:03] <boricua> well is local for the server but for other machines is network
[05:03] <jason> nickrud, done
[05:04] <searunner> ok so I just had to power off the power supply for 15 seconds to correct the MCP51 networking and now it seems to be all good to go
[05:04] <boricua> Iam8up: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16412
[05:04] <searunner> now im running the aptitude reload - mark all updates - apply
[05:04] <earthdog> I'm d/l'ing 6.06.  Is it ready for prime time?  I'm going to put it on one of my boss' systems, so...
[05:05] <nickrud> jason, ok, now we need to make sure there's a place for that partition to be mounted: ls /media , do you see sda1 there?
[05:05] <Iam8up> boricua - ok..as i said..don't know anything about local printers...
[05:05] <mikere> earthdog: as long as you don't need nvidia proprietary drivers =)
[05:05] <searunner> So can hyla fax and asterisk run at the same time or would that be a problem? I have an x100p card installed in this box
[05:05] <earthdog> mikere, how bad is that broken?
[05:06] <docgnome> does anyone know anything about foomatic?
[05:06] <jason> nickrun no
[05:06] <nickrud> jason, ok, sudo mkdir /media/sda1
[05:06] <mikere> earthdog: pretty badly right now - is issue with nvidia's compile apparently.  However, most of us can get by fine with the nvidia-glx package
[05:06] <boricua> Iam8up: can u tell me how to get cups password for browser maintenance
[05:06] <jason> nickrud done
[05:07] <Iam8up> boricua - not unless you can tell me the ubuntu user password for the live cd...
[05:07] <nickrud> jason, ok, sudo mount /media/sda1 should do the trick
[05:07] <Iam8up> nickrud - you'll need a mount point
[05:08] <boricua> Iam8up: i am not using live cd
[05:08] <earthdog> mikere, if I just grabbed the .bin from nvidia?
[05:08] <__mikem> I thought the live cd just booted into the desktop without prompting for a password
[05:08] <jason> nickrud done...........so now it shoudl work?
[05:08] <nickrud> lam8up, we just put it in fstab
[05:08] <Iam8up> boricua - i know..i'm saying you tell me the password for the ubuntu user on the live cd, and i'll tell you the password for cups for you
[05:08] <mikere> earthdog: that's the one that's broken - the packages that come with dapper are fine
[05:08] <Iam8up> nickrud - oh, ok - my name begins with an I, i, EYE
[05:08] <jason> nickrud YAAAAAAAAY thanks yooou
[05:08] <nickrud> jason, there you go :)
[05:09] <__mikem> Iam8up, if the password file is NOT encrypted, he can read his password from there
[05:09] <satempler> any one know of a good screencasting app that dosn't involve recompileing ffmpeg and istanbul
[05:09] <Iam8up> maybe...tell em that
[05:09] <mikere> earthdog: I upgraded this laptop from breezy yesterday and was up and running immediately.  Just had to add nvidia-glx to get some things working that I hadn't had working previously (hadn't been important back then)
[05:09] <Sivik> !xserver-reconfigure
[05:09] <feistel> hi
[05:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about xserver-reconfigure
[05:10] <feistel> someone can tell-me default groups for default user?
[05:10] <Sivik> ok, i so can't remember what i need to type for an xserver reconfigur
[05:10] <feistel> groups <--- command
[05:10] <Sivik> reconfigure
[05:10] <__mikem> Sivik its dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:10] <Sivik> __mikem, thanks
[05:10] <earthdog> mikere, ok, cool.  I can deal with nvidia-glx.  I'd heard rumors that there was a nasty bug, but wasn't sure what it was.  the glx pakage will be "good enough".  Thank you.
[05:10] <mikere> earthdog: you're welcome
[05:11] <Sivik> earthdog, or you could download and install the nvidia drivers from the nvidia website
[05:11] <boricua> i dont understand this, same page takes me to different locations in diff machines, https://help.ubuntu.com  in one machine is spanish and the other one is english  page
[05:11] <__mikem> Anyone here ever read unix for dummies?
[05:11] <feistel> please, I need recreate the default user
[05:11] <mikere> Sivik: have you done that with dapper yourself?  We were having problems with it today and folks just said nvidia's build was incompatible right now
[05:11] <earthdog> Sivik, er... mikere just mentioned that was what was broke...?
[05:11] <Iam8up> feistel - useradd <user>
[05:12] <sethk> boricua, you must have a different browser language setting
[05:12] <feistel> Iam8up, no I need the groups for default user in Ubuntu, then I can use sudo
[05:12] <boricua> sethk:whre is that setting in firefox?
[05:12] <Sivik> mikere, haven't tried it on dapper, cause when i upgraded via dist-upgrade and haven't had any problems
[05:12] <sethk> boricua, I'll take a look at my firefox, see if I can spot it.
[05:12] <jason> how come none of my mp3s will play?
[05:12] <Iam8up> feistel - by default..the default group a user is added to is just his own (as in you do 'useradd billy' he will be in groups: billy )
[05:13] <feistel> Iam8up, just execute the command 'groups' in your console
[05:13] <__mikem> ubotu tell jason about mp3
[05:13] <feistel> Iam8up, and put the output
[05:13] <sethk> boricua, preferences, advanced, languages
[05:14] <Iam8up> ook...brb
[05:14] <cArNy> my ubuntu is slow
[05:14] <cArNy> sllower than windows
[05:14] <cArNy> that normal?
[05:14] <__mikem> Slower than windows? Is that posible?
[05:14] <waikitz> wut software did u compare with
[05:15] <sivik_> why would games, native to linux, be telling me i have the vesa drivers currently, when i just install the ati drivers
[05:15] <__mikem> BEcause whoever wrote those games screwed up
[05:15] <sivik_> __mikem, i'm trying to play tremolus
[05:15] <sivik_> tremolous
[05:15] <boricua> sethk: strange one machine had english as default but had other languages on the list i removed the other languages and it showed in enlgish  its weird   THANKS
[05:15] <waikitz> __mikem, glxinfo|grep ati
[05:16] <sethk> boricua, np, I suspect an error at the other end if the default was misinterpreted
[05:16] <__mikem> waikitz, I one know for a fact i do not have an ati card, and 2 am not the one having the problem
[05:16] <sivik_> waikitz, all it says is a bunch of GLX_ARB and GLX_EXT stuff
[05:16] <sethk> boricua, or, perhaps, it does spanish unless spanish is not on the list
[05:16] <leboff> anyone tried ubuntu on a dell laptop?
[05:16] <sethk> boricua, which would be odd but not exactly wrong for the server
[05:16] <sethk> leboff, yes
[05:17] <lilo> (whoops, Astinus mistabbed 8)
[05:17] <leboff> sethk: work out alright?
[05:17] <satempler> any one know of a good screencasting app that dosn't involve recompileing ffmpeg and istanbul
[05:17] <sethk> leboff, so far, no problems
[05:17] <waikitz> sivik_, glxinfo|grep ati would show ur ati card info if you installed the driver correctly
[05:17] <leboff> sethk, thanks man.. i think its time for the switch .. windows is killin me
[05:17] <sethk> leboff, also running nicely on a fujitsu laptop and an ibm laptop
[05:17] <sethk> leboff, I'm happy with it.
[05:17] <sivik_> waikitz, then it must not be installed correctly
[05:18] <leboff> sethk, i love it on my desktop .. but i remember trying to get FC5 on there a bit back and ending up in complete failure
[05:18] <waikitz> sivik_, maybe i'm wrong with the command =P nvm
[05:18] <sethk> leboff, thus far it's worked perfectly.  Even the wireless.
[05:18] <leboff> sethk, ok great
[05:18] <sivik_> waikitz, maybe
[05:18] <sivik_> sethk, lucky
[05:18] <leboff> sethk, now to find that ubuntu cd i have lyin around
[05:18] <__mikem> leboff, get a coppy of vmware server, its free aned it should illiminate any risk
[05:19] <sethk> sivik_, lucky on the wireless, perhaps.  The rest I expected.
[05:19] <leboff> __mikem, thanks man
[05:19] <waikitz> sivik_, it should be "fglrxinfo"
[05:19] <__mikem> your welcome
[05:19] <waikitz> sivik_, sorry =P
[05:19] <sivik_> sethk, what kind of wireless card
[05:19] <sivik_> waikitz, sure
[05:20] <Dial_tone> how can I update the locatedb manually? its diff from bsd.
[05:20] <dooglus> Dial_tone: sudo updatedb
[05:20] <wikkix> updatedb?
[05:20] <wikkix> oh yeah
[05:20] <wikkix> try sudo first
[05:20] <wikkix> I'm trying to get cron to run my jobs
[05:21] <__mikem> I simply love the "locate" command, its so much easier to use than find, whereis, or any of those
[05:21] <sivik_> it still says that the OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project
[05:21] <wikkix> but something isn't working and I guess there is no mail on the system by default
[05:21] <brandon_> how can i check my gtk version?
[05:21] <gdb> wikkix: updatedb is already run daily out of the box
[05:21] <wikkix> brandon dpkg -l | grep gtk
[05:21] <sethk> sivik_, it isn't booted up at the moment.  I'll let you know.
[05:21] <gdb> wikkix: You do not need to create a new cron entry for it.
[05:21] <wikkix> no
[05:21] <wikkix> not updatedb
[05:21] <leboff> sethk, what type of dell?
[05:22] <wikkix> that was some other guy
[05:22] <gdb> er sorry
[05:22] <wikkix> i'm trying to do a tar
[05:22] <wikkix> Jun 24 23:23:01 theway /USR/SBIN/CRON[31483] : (root) CMD (/bin/tar -cvzf /media/usbdisk/backups/backup-`date +)
[05:22] <wikkix> Jun 24 23:23:01 theway /USR/SBIN/CRON[31482] : (root) MAIL (mailed 125 bytes of output but got status 0x0001 )
[05:22] <wikkix> that's what I keep seeing
[05:22] <gdb> Dial_tone: updatedb is already run daily out of the box.  You do not need a new crontab entry for it.
[05:22] <sethk> leboff, D610
[05:22] <gdb> wikkix: sorry for the confusion ;-)
[05:22] <wikkix> so I don't know what the heck is going on
[05:22] <wikkix> it's ok
[05:22] <gdb> wikkix: Do you have an MTA installed?
[05:22] <wikkix> no
[05:22] <gdb> wikkix: sendmail, postfix, exim, etc
[05:22] <gdb> wikkix: That is probably why.
[05:22] <wikkix> it doesn't come with one does it?
[05:23] <Dial_tone> I don't want a crontab for it, I want to know how to run it manually.
[05:23] <wikkix> I guess I need to install it
[05:23] <gdb> No, it does not.  You need to install one of them, the default is postfix.
[05:23] <sethk> Dial_tone, just type updatedb at the command line   (sudo updatedb)
[05:23] <leboff> sethk, is that an older one?
[05:23] <gdb> Anything that provides mail-transport (sendmail, postfix, exim, etc)
[05:23] <wikkix> ok
[05:23] <gdb> Dial_tone: Well, you already have a cron for it. ;-)  But you can just call it from the command line.
[05:23] <wikkix> any other way to get cron to tell me what the heck is going on?
[05:24] <sethk> leboff, possibly, it belongs to a company I'm doing a contract for.
[05:24] <gdb> wikkix: Well, since cron tells you whats going on via mail... you can probably find something in /var/log.
[05:24] <sivik_> is the vesa drivers have to do with anything about the way i compiled the kernel?
[05:24] <wikkix> that's all I saw in my log
[05:24] <leboff> sethk, ah ok
[05:24] <gdb> Then again, I'm not seeing anything there.
[05:24] <wikkix> what I posted up there
[05:24] <L-----D> !mp3
[05:24] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:24] <gopena> hello
[05:24] <gdb> #easyubuntu ;-)
[05:24] <gopena> i need some help upgrading to 6.06
[05:25] <gdb> gopena: What's the issue?
[05:25] <sivik_> gopena, help with what part
[05:25] <gopena> i just have no clue how to
[05:25] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[05:25] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[05:25] <gopena> so if it type that in in the console
[05:25] <gdb> gopena: That page there has all the information we'd be able to provide anyway. :-)
[05:25] <gdb> gopena: Those are webpages.
[05:25] <gopena> itll do it automatically?
[05:26] <gopena> gksudo "update-manager -d"
[05:26] <gdb> You do not want to use the -d flag.
[05:26] <gdb> No, read what it says.
[05:26] <gopena> ok
[05:26] <gdb> You do not want the -d flag.
[05:26] <gopena> why
[05:26] <gopena> whats it do
[05:26] <ozzloy> trying xgl on ubuntu 6.06, compiz tells me "compiz.real: No composite extension"  how do i fix that?
[05:26] <gdb> You're not interested in the "latest development version" like it just said.
[05:26] <gopena> ah
[05:26] <gdb> You want the latest stable version. :-)
[05:26] <gopena> thats ike
[05:26] <gopena> the beat
[05:26] <gopena> yeah
[05:26] <gopena> ok
[05:26] <gopena> thanks
[05:26] <gdb> update-manager will provide the option to upgrade to the next stable version if you run it.
[05:26] <Sjoerd-> when I use mv command to move a folder will it replace the folder or merge the files?
[05:27] <gdb> System -> Administration -> Update  Manager
[05:27] <wikkix> hmm
[05:27] <gdb> Sjoerd-: it will move your directory into the other one
[05:27] <gopena> gdb
[05:27] <gopena> do you have to install existing updates for it to give you that option
[05:27] <gdb> $ mv directory1 directory2 will leave you with directory1/directory2
[05:27] <gdb> gopena: yes
[05:27] <gopena> ok
[05:28] <gopena> thanks
[05:28] <gopena> bye!
[05:28] <wikkix> here is the error I got
[05:28] <gdb> gopena: Good luck! :-)
[05:28] <wikkix> unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``'
[05:28] <wikkix> her eis my cron line
[05:28] <wikkix> 32 23 * * * /bin/tar -cvzf /media/usbdisk/backups/backup-`date +%m%d%Y`.tar.gz /etc /home > /var/log/backup.log
[05:28] <Sjoerd-> gdb: So if there is a file called xxx.conf in the folder /xxx and I replace that folder with anothe /xxx that contains no file called xxx.conf it will stay intact?
[05:28] <wikkix> that works just dang fin on othe rsystems
[05:28] <RabidSnail> bcm43xx is sporadic on my ibook. Does anybody know how to fix this?
[05:28] <sivik_> RabidSnail, what the problem?
[05:28] <gdb> Sjoerd-: I'm not sure what you're asking.  Can you give the command you're looking to use?
[05:28] <wikkix> or maybe it doesn't
[05:28] <TheoMurpse> If I have no internet access to my Ubuntu and need to install Ethereal to it so I can figure out why I don't have access, can I just download ethereal and install it? Or do I need to keep booting back and forth between OSes (the one with internet and the one without) every time I try to install ethereal until I have all the prereqs? Will just an Ethereal package work?
[05:29] <gdb> wikkix: Is that all on one actual line?
[05:29] <wikkix> yes
[05:29] <gdb> wikkix: if it's not, you need a \ at the end of the first line.
[05:29] <gdb> wikkix: ah ok
[05:29] <Sjoerd-> gdb: mv /home/sjoerd/sites-enabled /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[05:29] <Dial_tone> aha, find doesn't follow symlinks
[05:29] <gdb> wikkix: I wonder if you're using an editor that's line wrapping.
[05:29] <wikkix> I think it has something to do with the '
[05:29] <wikkix> er the `
[05:29] <RabidSnail> sivik:it recognized my access point but often registers no signal, even though i'm sitting right next to it.
[05:29] <gdb> Sjoerd-: that will leave you with /eetc/apache2/sites-enabled/sites-enabled
[05:29] <wikkix> it's all one line
[05:29] <gdb> er /etc
[05:29] <sivik_> RabidSnail, thats normal, just cause it says there is no signal, doesn't mean its not working
[05:29] <wikkix> I know my vi :)
[05:30] <delmar> ffs. I downloaded the ubuntu dapper alternate .iso last night.. its even still listed inthe firefox download window.. and when I clicked open (last night) it opened the .iso.  It downloaded to my desktop, or so it was telling me but at the time I couldnt find it on the desktop or anywhere.  I have since rebooted and now the bloody .iso is nowhere to be found. that was a 700mb download and I don't get much of a datacap because New Z
[05:30] <delmar> ealand SUX.
[05:30] <gdb> Sjoerd-: the lower one will contain what was in /home, the other will be the system ones.
[05:30] <RabidSnail> but I get no internet connection
[05:30] <gdb> wikkix: No worries!
[05:30] <delmar> So... undeleting files under ubuntu... anyone?
[05:30] <dr_willis> delmar,  good luck.   Linux or you? ;-)
[05:30] <delmar> both :P
[05:30] <dr_willis> delmar,  ext2/3 file systems can make that a little hard. but it can be done.. with lots of luck
[05:30] <gdb> delmar: hehehe
[05:31] <wikkix> i'm just trying to get my dang backups to work
[05:31] <__mikem> gdb, probably him
[05:31] <RabidSnail> sivik:yeah, shows up fine
[05:31] <sivik_> RabidSnail, what does your ifconfig <interface> say
[05:31] <__mikem> besides, I doubt the kernel has anything to do with the problem he is having
[05:31] <gdb> delmar: You might be able to recover with an ex2 fs editor but that's not really recommended.
[05:31] <delmar> i thought inodes could be reattached with ext2/3
[05:31] <gdb> delmar: With a filesystem editor.
[05:31] <RabidSnail> am I allowed to post output?
[05:31] <delmar> grrrrrr.
[05:31] <Sjoerd-> gdp: I know windows just merges them but I read (a long time ago) linux will replace
[05:31] <delmar> GRRR
[05:32] <delmar> illjust redownload it then. bloody hell
[05:32] <Intelligi> Where is a good place to start learning ubuntu?
[05:32] <delmar> what a waste of bandwidth.
[05:32] <gdb> Well, to be honest, undelete in NTFS is neigh impossible, too. ;-)
[05:32] <Sjoerd-> Intelligi: Google: ubuntu guide
[05:32] <RabidSnail> sivik:  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:11:24:28:FD:3A
[05:32] <RabidSnail>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[05:32] <RabidSnail>           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[05:32] <RabidSnail>           RX packets:2654 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[05:32] <RabidSnail>           TX packets:87 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[05:32] <RabidSnail>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[05:32] <RabidSnail>           RX bytes:437962 (427.6 KiB)  TX bytes:3912 (3.8 KiB)
[05:32] <RabidSnail>           Interrupt:52 Base address:0x4000
[05:32] <__mikem> undelete is for wimps
[05:32] <wikkix> intelligi www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:32] <nickrud> RabidSnail, no, but, too late
[05:32] <Toma-> whats the easiest way to transfer a file between 2 ubuntu computers on the same network?
[05:32] <delmar> gdb, undelete in ntfs ... i can do that really really easily
[05:32] <Sjoerd-> RabidSnail: Don't paste here :)
[05:32] <RabidSnail> sorry
[05:32] <sivik_> !tell RabidSnail about pastebin
[05:32] <__mikem> why do people keep doing that
[05:32] <gdb> delmar: With the default system or do you need something like Norton Utilities?
[05:33] <nickrud> Intelligi, where do you want to start?
[05:33] <delmar> dgb, getdataback for NTFS
[05:33] <wikkix> undelete used to be part of windows
[05:33] <gdb> Toma-: scp, most likely.
[05:33] <sivik_> RabidSnail, are you editing the ip yourself or are you getting that from the ap
[05:33] <docgnome> Does anyone have any suggestions for why my printer is shifting everything to the left? it appears to be printing things off the left edge of the page. I'm using the HP LaserJet 1018 driver that comes with the foo2zjs package.
[05:33] <gdb> Toma-: You'll want to "apt-get install ssh" on both first, then it's really easy.
[05:33] <delmar> gdb, when NTFS screws up... that has recovered data every time.
[05:33] <Toma-> gdb: thx
[05:33] <gdb> Toma-: scp file user@system:file
[05:33] <RabidSnail> sivik:dhcp
[05:33] <jason> doesn asnyone know why my soundblaster live! 24 bit sound card doesnt work?
[05:33] <wikkix> anyone got an idea why this cron line doesnt' work? 32 23 * * * /bin/tar -cvzf /media/usbdisk/backups/backup-`date +%m%d%Y`.tar.gz /etc /home > /var/log/backup.log
[05:33] <d00by> hey
[05:33] <gdb> delmar: getdataback comes with Windows?
[05:33] <wikkix> I can run that command from teh command line
[05:33] <Toma-> gdb: im farmiliar with man pages ;)
[05:33] <gdb> Toma-: :-)
[05:33] <d00by> whats the package called that has all the windows codecs in it?
[05:34] <__mikem> Computers are like air conditioners, when you open windows, it doesn't work
[05:34] <gdb> wikkix: Can you run that from the command line and it works?
[05:34] <Josh43> Can anyone tell me how to direct firefox to open a new tab in window :0, when I am clicking in a vnc session though :2?
[05:34] <DShepherd> w32codecs?
[05:34] <sivik_> RabidSnail, not sure, it should allow you to connect, since you have an ip
[05:34] <DShepherd> or something like that
[05:34] <RabidSnail> hmm
[05:34] <delmar> gdb, heh..i reinstalled a guys system.. copied data off it... re-partitioned, re-formated... reinstalled software... then he tells me... " oh.. what about that folder I had with all this other stuff.. " blahblah.... used getdataback and recovered every one of his files... of course it was just pure luck nothing had been written over.
[05:34] <gdb> hehehe
[05:34] <wikkix> gdb yes
[05:34] <wikkix> I can
[05:35] <nickrud> DShepherd, !restricted, or !easysource & add the cipherfunk repo
[05:35] <delmar> gdb, no it's a product you can purchase.. or pirate. :P.  I was so impressed with it I paid the small amount they were askin
[05:35] <DShepherd> nickrud: tell d00by
[05:35] <wikkix> delmar: just quit deleting stuff you don't mean to delete :)
[05:35] <nickrud> d00by, you want to play video I take it?
[05:35] <gdb> wikkix: Well, unfortuantely, the only advice I can give is that I think you're using a goofy date format. ;-)
[05:35] <RabidSnail> sivik:pinging gooogle not working
[05:36] <wikkix> what format woudl you suggest?
[05:36] <wikkix> I just want it to show me somethign differnet each day
[05:36] <delmar> wikkix, yeah but Windows NTFS has failed on me a few times over the years and deleted stuff for me :P.. usually entire partitions
[05:36] <wikkix> I don't really care what it shows
[05:36] <nickrud> d00by, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats has instructions on installing the w32codecs
[05:36] <dr_willis> ive had windows fail.. and hard drives fail.. and.....  GRRRR
[05:37] <kolaje> would sedega work well with ubuntu?
[05:37] <wikkix> what file did you delete?
[05:37] <sivik_> why is my xorg.conf saying i'm using the fglrx stuff, but when i run glxinfo, it says its mesa GLX Indirect?
[05:37] <kolaje> or is there a better program for that use?
[05:37] <dr_willis> kolaje,  you mean Cedega?
[05:37] <__mikem> SEe the good thing about using vmware is, you can set up a folder that is shared between the guest and host opperating system which makes moving files between windows and say linux a snap
[05:37] <kolaje> i just know how it's pronounced, so yes
[05:37] <jason> why doesnt my sound blaster live! 24 bit sound card work?
[05:37] <kolaje> so i can emulate windows programs, that is what it does right?
[05:37] <dr_willis> kolaje,  it works good.. the normal Wike works very well.
[05:37] <__mikem> !cedega
[05:37] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[05:37] <gdb> %Y%m%d
[05:37] <sivik_> nickrud, but there is no way to change my video card, its onboard
[05:37] <dr_willis> kolaje,  the niormal wine that is. :P works very well - it depends on the programs however
[05:38] <kolaje> what's better for gaming?
[05:38] <delmar> wikkix, I didnt delete anything.. i downloaded the ubuntu dapper CD last night.. to my desktop aparantly... but it wasnt able to be found when I looked for it... clicked open in the firefox download window.. and it opened the .iso... still souldn't see it anywhere tho.
[05:38] <gdb> wikkix: er %Y%m%d for no reason other than they stay in order and YYYYMMDD is more "standard" ;-)
[05:38] <sivik_> kolaje, depends on the game
[05:38] <kolaje> i want to run steam
[05:38] <kolaje> with hl1
[05:38] <dr_willis> kolaje,  Cedega is designed with gaming in mind.. and to be honest.. it stull sucks. :P
[05:38] <delmar> wikkix, I rebooted since then.. and now its still not found.. and the firefox download window says its not available when i try to open it.. so its gone.
[05:38] <delmar> im screwed
[05:38] <nickrud> sivik_, that's why I thought about it, laptops come with those, and I think I'm about to get sattled with one
[05:38] <__mikem> cedega isn't that bad, as long as you use the games that they patched it for
[05:38] <dr_willis> Ive basicially switched to Linux and given up on games.. i get more work done that way
[05:38] <sivik_> kolaje, check the www.winehq.com and then the game database
[05:39] <gdb> delmar: When that happens, I generally at least run a find to make sure it's gone.
[05:39] <kolaje> thanks guys
[05:39] <dr_willis> __mikem,  theres a lot of 'variables' :P   and trial and error.
[05:39] <varsendaggr> i'm gonna install dapper any advice?
[05:39] <gdb> delmar: But I don't know what you're looking for.
[05:39] <sivik_> nickrud, ok, that made no sense
[05:39] <delmar> gdb, first thing I did
[05:39] <gdb> varsendaggr: Have fun doing it!
[05:39] <sivik_> varsendaggr, you worred about something?
[05:39] <varsendaggr> dr_willis, good for you
[05:39] <gdb> delmar: Yeah, that's what I figured.
[05:39] <nickrud> sivik_, um, saddled
[05:39] <__mikem> dr_willis, if you miss gaming that much, download a free copy of vmware server, install windows on the vm, and use it for gaming
[05:39] <sivik_> nickrud, your saddled with a laptop?
[05:39] <dr_willis> __mikem,  to be honest.. i DONT miss it. :P
[05:39] <sivik_> do you mean settled
[05:39] <nickrud> an ati one
[05:39] <sivik_> nickrud, there are many out there with nvidia cards
[05:40] <dr_willis> __mikem,  and i did put windows98 on a Vmware install.  - just for kicks
[05:40] <sivik_> nickrud, not normally the intel ones though
[05:40] <__mikem> 98, what a waste
[05:40] <dr_willis> __mikem,  vs spending more $$ for a coopy of xp for vmware.. ill stuck with 98 for my vmware testing needs. :P
[05:40] <CarlFK> is gaim v2b3 in a repo?
[05:41] <__mikem> good point, but if you have a copy of xp lieing around, you should use it
[05:41] <Hobbsee> CarlFK: not in an official one
[05:41] <nickrud> sivik_, corporate purchases, price rules
[05:41] <varsendaggr> sivik_, na i've installed breezy so may times i think it will be fine
[05:41] <sivik_> nickrud, i'm sorry, when i bought this laptop, it was one of the only laptops i could get with the ram i wanted and non intel
[05:41] <dr_willis> __mikem,  i dident want all the crud of xp. :P actually i just was trying to get a few utilities working witn 98 and vmware.  that wine dident like.
[05:42] <__mikem> wine will one day be reliable, but they have a long way to go
[05:42] <CarlFK> Hobbsee: so an unofficial?
[05:42] <varsendaggr> i've always done the /home   on a seperate partion but i can never reinstall without having to create a new user and it always never works just right i think i am just going to do a /
[05:42] <nickrud> sivik_, except for the issue of just what not to buy to run ubuntu, we're getting off-topic (before we get slapped with overcooked noodles)
[05:43] <jason> i need sound blaster live 24 bit drivers or something becuase my sound card doesnt work...........any help?
[05:43] <sivik_> nickrud, we seem to do that alot
[05:43] <sivik_> jason: did you google it?
[05:43] <Hobbsee> CarlFK: i think there was one somewhere, yeah, not sure where though
[05:43] <jason> yeah
[05:44] <sivik_> nickrud, are you in #winehq right now?
[05:44] -ratbert(i=ratbert@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin)- [Global notice]  I am a fat asshole, who loves abuse, die
[05:44] <nickrud> sivik_, no, never been there
[05:44] -ratbert(i=ratbert@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin)- DCC SEND YOUAREALLJUDENLOL
[05:44] <sivik_> ok
[05:44] <nickrud> well
[05:44] <nickrud> a short list
[05:45] <varsendaggr> !netsplit
[05:45] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[05:45] <Subvertir> has freenode gone retarded?
[05:45] <nickrud> !ddcexploit
[05:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about ddcexploit
[05:45] <Toma-> that wasnt a netsplit
[05:45] <nickrud> !ops
[05:45] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[05:45] <Subvertir> hahaha
[05:45] <nickrud> !ops, seriously
[05:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about ops, seriously
[05:45] <Subvertir> ratbert > *
[05:45] <__mikem> this is why I love having broudband, I almost never get touched by such things
[05:45] <Hobbsee> nalioth:!
[05:46] <concept10> why does someone ask ubotu what a netsplit is everytime it happens?
[05:46] <nickrud> ouch
[05:46] <Toma-> you'll find hes going that from out of the channel... /whois ratbert
[05:46] <Sjoerd-> When I use sudo mv /home/sjoerd/awstats /etc/ it gives out "mv: cannot overwrite directory '/etc/awstats'" why?
[05:46] <Sjoerd-> heh
[05:47] <varsendaggr> Sjoerd-,    because you don't have pemissions to edit /etc
[05:47] <Sjoerd-> varsendaggr: But I use sudo?
[05:47] <varsendaggr> Sjoerd-,    hint   use sudo
[05:47] <__mikem> Hobbsee why did you decide to upgrade to op a few lines back?
[05:47] <Hobbsee> __mikem: we've got trouble
[05:47] <Sjoerd-> varsendaggr: I do use sudo
[05:47] <Subvertir> hahaha
[05:47] <Subvertir> freenode is getting pwnt
[05:48] <varsendaggr> ohh god
[05:48] <imbrandon> !ops
[05:48] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[05:48] <varsendaggr> did anyone survive?
[05:48] <nickrud> imbrandon, they're aware
[05:48] <wikkix> wee
[05:48] <mikere> split?
[05:48] <wikkix> i'm still here
[05:48] <wikkix> I love the splits
[05:48] <Hobbsee> wikkix: we've got bigger problems than teh split
[05:48] <imbrandon> nickrud, i know
[05:48] <nickrud> someone got too may permissions here
[05:48] <varsendaggr> i don't know it may be the apocolyps
[05:49] <imbrandon> nickrud, there are other problems
[05:49] <wikkix> this is why I don't get on public irc servers much
[05:49] <nickrud> imbrandon, kk, I just see the obvious
[05:49] <mikere> freenodes usually pretty stable
[05:49] <varsendaggr> i have never seen carnage like this
[05:49] <MrObvious> That's more than a netsplit.
[05:49] <sivik_> would someone tell me why my opengl is reading as mesa when i have fglrx install in my xorg-conf
[05:49] <sivik_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16416
[05:49] <wikkix> anyone know why I keep getting this message /bin/sh: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``'
[05:49] <gigaclon> someone hacked the network
[05:50] <varsendaggr> !apocalyps
[05:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about apocalyps
[05:50] <nickrud> varsendaggr, there's an e at the end, and it's only a chat server :)
[05:51] <rixxon> wth is this ratbert guy up to
[05:52] <varsendaggr> whois ratbert?
[05:52] <imbrandon> varsendaggr, its being taken care of please be patient
[05:52] <rixxon> well he's killing lilo and sending lame global notices
[05:52] <HedgeMage> varsendaggr: it's a network problem... we (fn staff) are trying to track it down
[05:52] <rixxon> he seems to be oper logged in as levin
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[06:12] <Krhis> ^^
[06:12] <nickrud> ah, good ops
[06:13] <Krhis> Opps, sorry about that..... wrong plug.
[06:13] <pax> pull it pull it
[06:13] <runes> major netsplit???
[06:13] <moshe> hello
[06:13] <nickrud> noonex, a serious hacker
[06:13] <moshe> is there a dapper livecd?
[06:13] <d00by> can someone give me a link to where it shows how to install flash player for ubuntu without using wine
[06:13] <pax> pull the red plug the rd one
[06:13] <moshe> I can only find links to livecds for the beta and the flights
[06:14] <Krhis> haha
[06:14] <Sjoerd> moshe, i think all cd's are live cd's
[06:14] <nickrud> ermn a serious hacker, targetting a chat server. why?
[06:14] <moshe> d00by, macromedia distributes a native flash player for linux
[06:14] <pax> bored, no beers, saturday night
[06:14] <dust> how do you change the font in openbox wm?
[06:14] <nickrud> d00by, !restricted
[06:14] <nickrud> !restricted
[06:14] <roostishaw> c#
[06:14] <nickrud> noonex, no ubotu yet
[06:14] <moshe> if I download the desktop cd, it'll be a live cd, not the text mode install I went through back when I installed hoary last year?
[06:15] <roostishaw> oops, dont mind what I just posted
[06:15] <pppoe_dude> takes a long time to get in
[06:15] <jason> how do i change the clokc from military time to...........regualr time in kubuntu
[06:15] <nickrud> d00by, sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree   that's the command
[06:15] <roostishaw> moshe, the new installer is inculded on the live cd
[06:15] <roostishaw> moshe, its called expresso, its a gui
[06:15] <moshe> roostishaw, I know this, but are you saying the old installer has been entirely discontinued?
[06:16] <imbrandon> its called ubiguity
[06:16] <imbrandon> ;)
[06:16] <moshe> I installed dapper on this machine back during flight 5.  I want to install it fresh on another machine and I want to know which cd to download, and only desktop is availab.e
[06:16] <nickrud> nalioth, hi
[06:16] <moshe> available.
[06:16] <imbrandon> moshe, no its called the "alternate installer now"
[06:16] <roostishaw> moshe, I have no idea, but it think there might be an option to use the text installer...
[06:16] <roostishaw> oh, ok... what he said
[06:16] <roostishaw> :D
[06:16] <moshe> the old one is the alternate?
[06:16] <KyoLptp`> you guys are both wrong lol
[06:17] <KyoLptp`> the old one = espresso
[06:17] <moshe> hmmm
[06:17] <jason> doesn any one know how to chnage the time from military time to regual time in kubuntu.............its driving me insance haha
[06:17] <KyoLptp`> new name = ubiquity IIRC
[06:17] <moshe> whatever the name is
[06:17] <moshe> I have a non-booting breezy install
[06:17] <KyoLptp`> it sucks regardless, damn program FUBAR'd my laptop's MBR
[06:17] <moshe> I don't want to spend time messing with it, so I want to install dapper on it.
[06:17] <imbrandon> moshe, its uptodate with the live cd
[06:17] <nickrud> jason, only insane people use kde, so ...
[06:17] <tanath> can someone help me get the side buttons on my mouse working? i have a logitech mx500, and have carefully followed the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471
[06:17] <moshe> I need to know which cd I should download
[06:17] <imbrandon> i use kde ?
[06:18] <imbrandon> moshe, the "desktop cd"
[06:18] <tanath> everything works fine except the side buttons
[06:18] <tanath> they don't do anything
[06:18] <jason> nickrud, whast that supose to mean
[06:18] <J-_> What's a good tutorial for a newbie on breezy badger?
[06:18] <moshe> I have a machine with multiple partitions and I didn't remember if the livecd's installer respected that arrangement
[06:18] <nickrud> jason, a bad joke, that
[06:18] <nickrud> s all
[06:18] <KyoLptp`> moshe
[06:18] <KyoLptp`> if you want to install, get the install cd rather than the desktop CD
[06:18] <jason> oh..........well do you know how to chnage the time? cause its annoying haha
[06:19] <moshe> install cd is not on the list
[06:19] <moshe> I'm on one of the download pages right now
[06:19] <KyoLptp`> oh
[06:19] <roostishaw> anyone, how do I install the gnu liberty basic cross compiler?
[06:19] <moshe> desktop, alternate, and server are the only options
[06:20] <tanath> can someone help me get the side buttons on my mouse working? i have a logitech mx500, and have carefully followed the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471 but they still don't do anything.
[06:20] <iamelite> I have a question, about advanced Video/3D graphics, and ubuntu
[06:20] <not-prime> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[06:20] <hanasaki> where do i get libdvdcss2 and w32codecs?
[06:20] <runes> has anyone here set up postfix?
[06:20] <moshe> libdvdcss is downloadable through a script in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread, I think
[06:20] <nickrud> hanasaki, from the cipherfunk repo, see the source-o-matic on google
[06:21] <hanasaki> eh?
[06:21] <tanath> hanasaki: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/
[06:21] <moshe> w32codecs might be in multiverse, but otherwise, you can download it directly from mplayer's website
[06:21] <iamelite> I spent a good few hours with someone in winehq, troubleshooting my drivers and varifying thier integrity. And everthing checks out except one thing. My video card is 256 megs, and ubuntu appears to be reading 64 megs of it.
[06:21] <tanath> hanasaki: replace "breezy" if you're using dapper or something
[06:21] <hanasaki> moshe:  its listed.. but when i try to install.. it says no candidate
[06:21] <roostishaw> anyone, how do I install the gnu liberty basic cross compiler?
[06:22] <hanasaki> tanath: i am on 6.06
[06:22] <moshe> no candidate?
[06:22] <tanath> hanasaki: cause it's mentioned, but it's not in your repositories
[06:22] <tanath> hanasaki: (by another package)
[06:22] <moshe> oh
[06:22] <moshe> multiverse.
[06:22] <backz> Hi people! I've a "STMicroelectronics Imaging Division (VLSI Vision) CPiA WebCam", I've /dev/video -> /dev/video0, and my gqcam can read data from it, but Camorama doesn't... why? It says: "Couldn't connect on device /dev/video0. Please check your connection!"
[06:22] <backz> why?
[06:22] <moshe> you need to enable it in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:22] <hanasaki> ah
[06:22] <moshe> sorry
[06:22] <iamelite> Also... The way my games run, are particualarly slow. and act as if im running a Low memory card.
[06:22] <d00by> nickrud, when i did  sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree it says cannot find package
[06:22] <moshe> I was engrossed in my own issue :)
[06:22] <tanath> hanasaki: what moshe said. see the link i posted
[06:23] <iiiears> !compiz
[06:23] <iiiears> !xgl
[06:23] <dust> does anyone use openbox window manager instead of metacity??
[06:23] <moshe> I use xfce :)
[06:23] <DarkMageZ> hanasaki, please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:23] <tanath> can someone help me get the side buttons on my mouse working? i have a logitech mx500, and have carefully followed the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471 but they still don't do anything.
[06:23] <hanasaki> http://packages.freecontrib.org <= is ubuntu? safe?
[06:24] <moshe> I always thought metacity was pretty useless until they added window snapping with the latest release
[06:24] <nickrud> !multiverse
[06:24] <iamelite> Does anyone know how to check on / fix that
[06:24] <nickrud> no ubotu :)
[06:24] <roostishaw> is the 'compromise' why there were a bunch of logins?
[06:24] <tanath> anyone?
[06:25] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> compromise?  or got hacked?
[06:25] <nickrud> d00by, you need to enable to multiverse section to get the flash plugin, and the local bot is dead.
[06:25] <Banana> someone cracked the md5 hashes of the netadmins
[06:25] <Krhis> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, I'm thinking it was ratbert.
[06:25] <roostishaw> ...
[06:25] <Banana> the generated a massive netsplit
[06:25] <roostishaw> whats a netsplit?
[06:25] <Banana> the leaves and joins were probably caused by the netsplit
[06:25] <nickrud> d00by, if you'd post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to paste.ubuntu-nl.org , I'll amend them
[06:25] <d00by> oh you said flashplayer, not plugin, ok
[06:26] <Banana> netsplit is where two continents have their connections severed
[06:26] <Banana> i.e. where maybe there was no connection between america and europe
[06:26] <d00by> nickrud, your command had player in it not plugin, so that was the problem
[06:26] <iiiears> tanath - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188302&highlight=mx700 - Maybe..
[06:26] <roostishaw> ooo... thats sounds bad...  :D
[06:26] <Banana> and then each server would go on with their own communications, and then eventually merge back when all was reconnected
[06:26] <nickrud> d00by, that's not an unusual condition for me, good catch
[06:27] <gdb> Ah, netsplits are when any two IRC servers on the same network can't talk to each other for whatever reason. It has nothing to do with geography.
[06:27] <codecaine> hi I install xfishtank when I type it in terminal the screen blinks but then I dont' see any fish anybody know why?
[06:27] <d00by> nickrud, haha its ok, i just happened to be reading RestrictedFormats thing so thats where i found it
[06:27] <iiiears> The quest for compiz starts in what channel?
[06:27] <dust> mosh, i just couldn't handle the black lines.
[06:27] <nickrud> d00by, a great page, yes. Especially after the last edit
[06:28] <czer323> !compiz
[06:28] <czer323> oh noes, no ubotu?
[06:28] <iiiears> deadbot.  My video card is running games with 1/4 of its full memory. 64 megs, as opposed to 256 megs.
[06:29] <[Ex0r] > hmm, what's the link to view for adding in avi/mpeg support?
[06:29] <lancer285> what does it mean when I run memtest, I get Allocated 536870912 bytes...trying mlock...Killed
[06:29] <[Ex0r] > err, wmv*
[06:30] <tanath> iiiears: hrm, that one says to do stuff the other one says is wrong/outdated
[06:30] <iiiears> iamelite - check /etc/X11/xorg.conf for the device section and change 64000 to 256000
[06:30] <czer323> ex0r> Try seraching for EasyUbuntu.  It adds in the restricted formats(avi, mpeg).
[06:30] <iamelite> iiiears: i will try it
[06:30] <[Ex0r] > !restricted
[06:31] <[Ex0r] > czer323, you mean through apt ?
[06:31] <czer323> ubotu appears to have died and gone to bot heaven.
[06:31] <iiiears> tanath - lol - Okay, I feel your pain. - fought a few days last week to enable all of my multimedia keys. - mixed advice there too.
[06:31] <lancer285> what does it mean when I run memtest, I get Allocated 536870912 bytes...trying mlock...Killed
[06:31] <czer323> exor> just search for it on google.
[06:31] <tanath> iiiears: heh. a couple of mine are screwy now after 'fixing' them.
[06:32] <jreis> anyone know how to fix boot floppy problem, error 15 file not found?  Looks like root permission issue...
[06:32] <yallaman> is there a way to switch back to fluxbox from gnome? like in fluxbox you only go to the menu and window > gnome
[06:32] <iamelite> iiiears: i am in xorg, i noticed other simular named files in the directory...
[06:33] <jreis> i have XP on 1 disc, unbuntu on another...
[06:33] <Zambezi> Is there only 346 connected now? It should be the double!
[06:33] <iamelite> iiiears: such as xorg.conf.fglrx
[06:34] <iiiears> iamlite - i have a 256 mb card also - give me a sec and i can quote it for you.
[06:35] <[Ex0r] > hmm, wow
[06:35] <lerick> hi, i'm new to using linux and i'm installing realplayer on my computer. is there any specific directory i should install it in, like 'program files' in windows?
[06:35] <iamelite> iiiears - i can post the file for you on pastebin, if you would like. But even with my limited linux experiance. There seems something odd in this file
[06:35] <farous> am trying to connect using irssi but can not seem to do it is there a new config i am not aware of?
[06:35] <Banana> Freenode is currently err... in trouble
[06:35] <Banana> being hacked/compromised, so you might not be able to connect to some servers
[06:36] <iamelite> lerick: there is a linux version of realplayer.
[06:36] <farous> though so thanx
[06:36] <Banana> try asimov.freenode.net
[06:36] <farous> will do so Banana thanx again
[06:36] <Banana> that and zelazny.freenode.net are the only two that seem to work
[06:36] <yallaman> lerick: sudo apt-get install realplay
[06:36] <iamelite> lerick: though im not adept enough to tell you where to get it, i would recommend a google for your dist
[06:36] <Banana> but the lag is enormous
[06:37] <iamelite> lerick: yallaman just answered it :P lol
[06:37] <nickrud> Banana, hang in, they're working at getting the net bak
[06:37] <d00by> is there any way to fix the battery monitor? mine doesnt actually monitor the battery time or % correctly
[06:37] <hanasaki> how do you set the app that runs when you double click on an icon in gnoem?
[06:38] <yallaman> lerick: what distro do you have?
[06:38] <nickrud> hanasaki, right click the icon, select properties. A dialog window will open, and the tab open with will let you set the default. Click the radio button.
[06:38] <iiiears> iamlite - the easy way is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   - That is if the xorg file needs editing.
[06:38] <lerick> i have the standard ubuntu one, i think.
[06:38] <yallaman> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[06:39] <hanasaki> i need to change the program assoc w/ "moice player"
[06:39] <hanasaki> movie
[06:39] <iamelite> iiiears - i have xorg.conf open with text editor
[06:39] <iiiears> iiears - Else gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   - Do you see what looks like 64000?
[06:39] <yallaman> look at that one..a nice guide for starters and stuff you would install as a start
[06:39] <lerick> ok
[06:39] <iiiears> iamlite - do you have an ATI or nVidia card?
[06:40] <iamelite> iiiears: ATI
[06:40] <iamelite> FTW
[06:40] <yallaman> is there a way to switch back to fluxbox from gnome? like in fluxbox you only go to the menu and window > gnome
[06:40] <Subvertir> hahah "tracking it back now"
[06:40] <iiiears> Great. - Does 64000 appear there?
[06:41] <d00by> whats the package with the standard windows fonts called?
[06:41] <r2d4> Does Ubuntu have a DU Meter alternative?
[06:41] <iamelite> iiiears: looking...
[06:41] <gdb> d00by: msttcorefonts
[06:41] <d00by> thx gdb
[06:41] <nickrud> yallaman, if you're running a regular ubuntu, you can choose to run gnome vs. xfce, see the option menu
[06:42] <iiiears> iamlite - It is in the top half of xorg.conf
[06:42] <mattyv> i have read that both ralink rt2500 and atheros based wireless cards are quite well supported, which one would u all recommend?
[06:42] <nickrud> yallaman, erm, during the login screen :
[06:42] <yallaman> i know this
[06:42] <satempler> dose any one know of a good screencasting app that I don't have to recompile ffmpeg and isn't istanbul
[06:42] <digirat> can someone help me figure out what my fat32 partition is labeled as? (/dev/sdb4?)
[06:42] <nickrud> yallaman, and the issue is then?
[06:42] <yallaman> but i hoped it was maybe a console command to quickly change
[06:42] <Subvertir> I got the Xgl and gnome and the dock running
[06:42] <Subvertir> it's pretty badass
[06:42] <Subvertir> hahahahha god I fucking love lilo
[06:43] <nickrud> digirat, sudo fdisk -l to start
[06:43] <iamelite> iiiears: i cant see the sequence 64000, 64xxx... or 64X*
[06:43] <lerick> "Enter the complete path to the directory where you want
[06:43] <lerick> RealPlayer to be installed.  You must specify the full
[06:43] <lerick> pathname of the directory and have write privileges to
[06:43] <lerick> the chosen directory.
[06:43] <lerick> Directory:  [/home/ezflojeezy/Desktop/RealPlayer] :"
[06:43] <iiiears> digirat - sudo fdisk -l  thats "L" should list what you have
[06:43] <digirat> nickrud, thx
[06:43] <digirat> iiiears, thx
[06:43] <digirat> foudn it
[06:44] <lerick> what directory should i put?
[06:44] <yallaman> like in fluxbox..you only need to go to the meny and chose window > gnome..and gnome starts right up..with all the apps still running
[06:44] <nickrud> lerick, choose /home/ezflojeezy , that will work, and be remediable
[06:44] <lerick> ok, thank you
[06:44] <iiiears> iamelite: Hm. - Wondering if you might post it to ubuntu pastebin
[06:45] <iamelite> iiiears: whats the site?
[06:45] <nickrud> digirat, I don't know why, but I accept :)
[06:45] <iiiears> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:46] <iiiears> nickrud - Was Seveas nice enough to set that up for us?
[06:46] <iiiears> ubuntu pastebin
[06:46] <iamelite> iiiears: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16418 - xorg.conf
[06:46] <Lord-ChewY> im having rouble with quake4
[06:46] <iiiears> Got it. - give me a sec.
[06:46] <Lord-ChewY> one of the SDL libs is missing, i think its the 32 bit one
[06:46] <nickrud> iiiears, yup. and it's been around long enough for me to think of it as reliable :)
[06:47] <Lord-ChewY> cause im running amd64 ubuntu
[06:47] <Lord-ChewY> i looked in lib and lib32 and the lib isn't there
[06:47] <iiiears> pastebin.com sure wasn't. - lol
[06:47] <Lord-ChewY> but its in lib64
[06:47] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> quake4 runs on linux?
[06:47] <Lord-ChewY> where can i get the 3d bit SDL libs
[06:47] <Sjoerd> What command to make all files in a directory mine ^^ ?
[06:47] <nickrud> iiiears, they come and they go
[06:47] <jason> how do i install new kde theme
[06:47] <Lord-ChewY> and do the SDL libs need to be compiled for my kernel or can i just get binaries
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> IF I want to run a program using Wine, what folder should the program.exe be in?
[06:48] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> jason: how to install atheme?
[06:48] <jason> for kde yes
[06:49] <digirat> i "mounted" my fat32 partition in fstab like this, but still can't write to it... what's wrong in my config?
[06:49] <digirat> /dev/sdb4       /media/music    vfat    users,owner,rw,umask=000        0 0
[06:49] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> jason: run kcontrol,
[06:50] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> jason: go to appearance and themes
[06:50] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> jason: then theme menager
[06:50] <jason> oh alright cool thanks
[06:51] <mezoko> Hi
[06:51] <Megan> hi
[06:51] <Cornellius> 'lo
[06:51] <mezoko> How can I save alsa's settings
[06:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Does anyone here use WIne? What folder do I need to use for the program.exe?
[06:51] <Megan> crlt+s
[06:52] <Megan> hehe, go windowx!
[06:52] <iiiears> iamlite - Honestly this should be a simple question. - Unfortuneatly, Having used only nVidia cards i can only say run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" - i found a couple of other xorg.conf files for the 9600 card and didn't see any mention of the amount of RAM.
[06:52] <iiiears> maybe nickrud can save us. - grin
[06:53] <iamelite> hmmm
[06:53] <nickrud> iiiears, if I look back to the last, X? ati ? bugs?
[06:53] <Discipulus> what's a different lightweight browser I can use? Firefox freezes on me alot
[06:53] <mezoko> Ok let tryt his question how can I get a HOME Dir on the desktop?
[06:54] <nickrud> Discipulus, if firefox is freezing that's not right; but epiphany-browser is very light weight
[06:54] <iamelite> Well if worst comes to worst, i have an old NV GF 5800oc ive been useing as a coaster.
[06:54] <iiiears> nickrud - I don't want to give him advice for a GeForce card. - ATI all in wonder cards are nice if you leave them at one resolution.
[06:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Firefox works fine, there is a different problem
[06:54] <nickrud> iiiears, I know a bit about that abstractly
[06:55] <nickrud> only owned cheap nvidia & voodoo3, the bomb
[06:55] <Discipulus> nickrud, I don't know what it is, but it freezes on me, a lot
[06:55] <iamelite> iiiears: i have a ATI RD 9600xt
[06:55] <mattyv> digirat: try looking here http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows.php
[06:55] <nomin> I have nvidia geforce4
[06:55] <whyami> so is synaptic a gnome app and if so, what is the equivalent to synaptic for kubuntu?
[06:56] <iiiears> voodoo3 - Hey, a real GPU - that was expensive in it's day.
[06:56] <hanasaki> what is a good gnome dvd player?
[06:56] <Drunkellius> whyami:  Adept
[06:56] <nickrud> Discipulus, just exactly what card, lspci & commercial description? I've watched some things, but I gotta have an out
[06:56] <Krhis> No channel topic?
[06:56] <Jack_Sparrow> whyami: you can use synaptic
[06:57] <iamelite> I miss 3DFX, and glide
[06:57] <nickrud> Krhis, ah, a side effect of the ass
[06:57] <juanzhewudi> when i installed the fglrx dirver downloaded from ati.com, all are ok, but when i run the #aticonfig, it told me that "error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:57] <juanzhewudi> ".what can i do now?
[06:57] <Krhis> nickrud, hehe
[06:57] <iamelite> ahh Glide was god
[06:57] <garryF> What is the reason for choosing nicknames with a O or 0 as the first or second character or some other funny character that looks like a O so that nobody can reply to them?
[06:58] <tanath> i need help getting the side buttons on my mouse working. if i play with xmod map i can get other buttons to do those functions, but when assigning them to the correct buttons they do nothing
[06:58] <nickrud> the absolute lowest users I've ev er seen
[06:58] <whyami> Jack_Sparrow: but it doesn't seem to come with kubuntu so I was wondering what people are using there.
[06:58] <iiiears> iamlite - Someone else has had your problem and written about it. The only real problem now is finding it.
[06:58] <tanath> my xorg.config has 10 buttons...
[06:58] <Dapperguy> heya
[06:58] <Dapperguy> help with mysql install...
[06:58] <Jack_Sparrow> whyami:  just get it with adept
[06:58] <garryF> I found info on the quake 4 and how to get it to run on linux .... http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/11/07/1547208
[06:59] <nickrud> tanath, 10 buttons in xorg.conf?
[06:59] <mezoko> How can I save my alsa settings?
[06:59] <Jack_Sparrow> whyami:  I dont think you even need to enable universe
[06:59] <stardash> does anyone know of a good guide to installing nvidia drivers?
[06:59] <iamelite> iiiears: anything you can do to help me. im not a coder yet
[06:59] <tanath> nickrud: 	Option        "Buttons"         "10"
[06:59] <njdavid> Anyone here know of a Windowblinds skin that looks good with the Tokidoki LS theme?
[06:59] <Toma-> ooo. servers still under attack?
[06:59] <garryF> if you use alsamixer they auto-save when you hit escape.
[06:59] <Dapperguy> was doing a walkthrough for bugzilla and said to delete some old mysql directories, now i cant install after apt-get remove mysql-server, apt-get install, says /etc/init.d/mysql[9091] : WARNING: /etc/mysql/my.cnf cannot be read. See README.Debian.gz
[07:00] <mezoko> garryF: until reboot
[07:00] <nickrud> tanath, did you add that, or did sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-org do it?
[07:00] <tanath> nickrud: i did
[07:00] <Dapperguy> my.cnf not there
[07:00] <nickrud> tanath, ah.
[07:00] <tanath> nickrud: i followed a guide on the forums
[07:00] <tanath> nickrud: got everything working great, except the thumb buttons do nothing
[07:00] <Dapperguy> basically i just want to "get it back like a clean install"
[07:00] <garryF> mezoko Hmm, I had always thought that alsactrl store was needed to make it persist.
[07:01] <Drunkellius> Anywone here use SoundKonverter ??
[07:01] <MrKeuner> hi, how can I turn off the bluetooth device in thinkpad r52?
[07:01] <Dapperguy> instead of biling cnf files from scratch
[07:01] <mezoko> garryF: yeah it is, but most distro have a script to do that when you shutdown the computer
[07:01] <Dapperguy> *building
[07:01] <Jack_Sparrow> stardash: what driver did it autodetect and install?
[07:01] <nickrud> tanath, you're further along than I am then, sorry for the pointed question. If you'll mail it to me, then I might have a reference :)
[07:02] <tanath> nickrud: you having mouse troubles?
[07:02] -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- This nickname is owned by someone else
[07:02] -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[07:02] <nickrud> tanath, exactly none, for several years. But, I've never had a 10 button mouse
[07:02] <mezoko> I need to add a program to the start up list how can I do this?
[07:03] <garryF> So does Ubuntu do an alsactl store when it shuts down as well or need a user do alsactl store explicitly?
[07:03] <tanath> nickrud: ah. i have a logitech mx500. i love it :) i just miss using the side buttons for forward and back
[07:03] <mezoko> garryF: well /etc/init.d/alsa-utils controls that
[07:03] <Amaranth> wtf
[07:03] <mezoko> I'm just tyring to figure out hwo to add taht to startup and all
[07:04] <nickrud> tanath, look for info about that mouse on google, but add the qualifier debian. It may help narrow the search
[07:04] <tanath> wow
[07:04] <nomin> weeee!
[07:04] <Jack_Sparrow> weeeee
[07:04] <tanath> nickrud: i have been searching google
[07:04] <tanath> nickrud: i think i may have found what i need :)
[07:04] <Eleaf> bawahahahah
[07:04] <garryF> Wow, there went a lot of foks, even some regulars.
[07:04] <tanath> nickrud: thx though
[07:04] <iiiears> iamlite - If you are feeling adventurous find an example xorg.conf with the amount of ram filled in. edit your conf file to match it.
[07:04] <siriusnova> howdy
[07:04] <nickrud> tanath, eh, google is our friend
[07:04] <DBO> how are 438 people ALREADY here?
[07:04] <siriusnova> is there any way to change the default sun java 5 theme
[07:05] <siriusnova> so its not so ugly anymore
[07:05] <Hit3k> Could someone please help me by telling me how I split a folder up into diffrent folders of 4.4Gb each?
[07:05] <nickrud> DBO, you're on the subset that's working
[07:05] <DBO> Hit3k, tar then use the split command
[07:05] <Hit3k> DBO thanks :)
[07:05] <Amaranth> We lost the topic?
[07:05] <iamelite> iiiears: im looking at the file i found a line  -- Option	    "OpenGLOverlay" "off" -- Can i change this to "on" safely?
[07:05] <mezoko> Ok how the hell do I add somethign to ubuntu startup list
[07:05] <nickrud> Hobbsee, more , more
[07:05] <DBO> Hi Hobbsee
[07:05] <MrKeuner> hi, how can I turn off the bluetooth device??
[07:06] <iiiears> I haven't seen any samples with a ram listed for an ATI card.  - I have no idea why ATI keeps there drivers closed and doesn't offer  better specs to developers.
[07:06] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: we lost a whole lot of stuff
[07:06] <nickrud> a side effect
[07:06] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: that means chanserv's workign agian
[07:06] <Hit3k> so is nickserv
[07:06] <hanasaki> how do you turn on subtitles in gxine?
[07:06] <nomin> I recently found a great addon for firefox.  It lets you easily choose which media players to use for different video types.
[07:06] <Amaranth> Trying to remember where ubuntulog has it's logs
[07:06] <Hit3k> but you already knew that
[07:06] <Toma-> wb services :)
[07:06] <nomin> MediaPlayerConnectivity  https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/446/
[07:06] <Hobbsee> !logs
[07:06] <iiiears> iamlite - I don't know. - doesn't sound like a setting for RAM size/
[07:06] <MTecknology>  I finally figured out how to get my wireless working... I use the command 'sudo iwconfig ap any' and it starts working... How can I add this to a startup script??
[07:07] <nomin> I recommend getting that firefox addon.  It's solved problems for me very easily.
[07:07] <iamelite> iiiears: granted, but might solve annother problem as well
[07:07] <garryF> So, who spilled a soda or beer down the back of the nickserver.
[07:07] <nickrud> Amaranth, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ ? haven't checked lately
[07:07] <Amaranth> i've got it
[07:08] <iiiears> Hobbsee - Can you specify the amount of onboard video RAM for an ATI card?
[07:08] <Eleaf> hi
[07:08] <Dial_tone> you can specify it for any card
[07:08] <Hobbsee> iiiears: no idea
[07:08] <Dial_tone> make it in KB tho
[07:08] <nickrud> iiiears, you can specify ram, for any card under the device section
[07:08] <iiiears> I haven't seen it in xorg.conf for them.
[07:09] <garryF> Sounds like Mr Former Migrainesoft linux basher has too much time on his hands. I've noticed an increase in attacks after his sudden departure.
[07:09] <nickrud> iiiears, because it's not usually needed
[07:09] <Amaranth> *sigh*
[07:09] <Dapperguy> after reinstall of mysql-server, geting no my.cnf found..help
[07:09] <Amaranth> I can't find the topic.
[07:09] <Amaranth> Someone using xchat should have it though
[07:09] <sneex> execute /topic
[07:10] <iiiears> nickrud - So maybe use an nVidia xorg.conf for a template?
[07:10] <Amaranth> sneex: um
[07:10] <sneex> topic death
[07:10] <sneex> I see
[07:10] <sneex> sorry
[07:10] <Amaranth> Yeah.
[07:10] <sneex> =(
[07:10] <Hobbsee> got it :D
[07:10] <Amaranth> excellent
[07:10] <sneex> yippy
[07:10] <sneex> =)
[07:10] <Amaranth> i need to start logging again
[07:10] <iamelite> iiiears i found it
[07:10] <iiiears> jusr\t change that -one- line setting for RAM?
[07:11] <nickrud> iiiears, yes, but examine /var/log/xorg.X.log, it's gospel.
[07:12] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: i found all the topics in my server window
[07:12] <iiiears> iamlite - Glad you did. - Gives me time to swat my cat away from the keyboard. - lol
[07:12] <nickrud> at least this month
[07:12] <MTecknology>  I finally figured out how to get my wireless working... I use the command 'sudo iwconfig ap any' and it starts working... How can I add this to a startup script??
[07:13] <iiiears> nickrud - Okay, Than tonight is no execption - learned something new.
[07:13] <Amaranth> iiiears: That's always a good thing.
[07:13] <iamelite> iiiears: the auto configuration... command you gave me " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" gave me the option to edit memory used.
[07:13] <nickrud> MTecknology, the hacky way would to be adding that line to /etc/rc.local ; if that works after a boot it'll give you time to figure out where that invocation should be
[07:13] <Dial_tone> VideoRam    131072
[07:14] <PFA> WHACK.
[07:14] <iiiears> iamlite - :)
[07:15] <iiiears> iamlite - Still curious about xorg.conf did it add a line that mentions the amount of RAM your card has?
[07:15] <iamelite> iiiears: ehhh i was text editing... However it would seem that the command you gave me. will leave the memory option "blank" by default
[07:15] <MTecknology> nickrud, do I just add the line b4 exit 0?
[07:15] <iamelite> iiiears: do i need to restart before testing my video settings?
[07:15] <iiiears> iamlite - not a bug a feature for backwards compatibility no doubt.
[07:16] <AlienX> hooray!
[07:16] <garryF> should be able to close all apps and do a ctrl-alt-backspace to restart x
[07:16] <iiiears> iamlite - /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:16] <MTecknology> nickrud, that, and do I ommit sudo from the command?
[07:16] <nickrud> MTecknology, exactly.
[07:16] <nickrud> MTecknology, the exit 0 is a hack that says,
[07:17] <iamelite> iiiears: * Stopping GNOME Display Manager...                                     [ ok ]
[07:17] <iamelite>  * Starting GNOME Display Manager...                                     [fail]
[07:17] <nickrud> 'all went well' even if your addtion sucks ;)
[07:17] <iiiears> iamlite or do it the the wrong faster way. CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[07:17] <iamelite> iiiears: wonr?
[07:17] <MTecknology> nickrud, cool, should I have sudo in the command or is tha run at root  level?
[07:17] <iamelite> wrong?
[07:17] <iiiears> iamlite - J/K ;)
[07:17] <Amaranth> it's not wrong
[07:17] <iamelite> ah
[07:18] <iamelite> ok...
[07:18] <nickrud> MTecknology, no sudo needed, you're right. It runs at the root level
[07:18] <Amaranth> just not "nice" :)
[07:18] <iamelite> well ty for the help
[07:18] <iamelite> ill update you when i get back
[07:18] <MTecknology> nickrud, ty much
[07:19] <Dapperguy> when i reinstalled mysql-server, missing my.cnf
[07:19] <Dapperguy> i was doing a walkthrough for bugzilla and it fuct something u
[07:19] <nickrud> MTecknology, I know less than my fingernail about wireless, but that's a reasonable way to use the ubuntu boot/runlevel system
[07:19] <stardash> anyone had luck getting nvidia drivers to install in ubuntu?
[07:19] <Dapperguy> now i just want it fresh
[07:19] <sneex> what version of ubuntu?
[07:19] <stardash> I keep getting an error that I need to shut down x
[07:19] <stardash> 5.10
[07:19] <nickrud> stardash, every time install, yes
[07:19] <roostishaw> how would I make a shell script usable on the web?
[07:20] <iiiears> rootishaw - link to it with PHP/PERL????
[07:21] <iiiears> rootishaw - nvm - forget i even said that.
[07:21] <nickrud> stardash, ok, do this: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-formats-$(uname -r)  on a command line. After that is done, type glx-config enable
[07:21] <sneex> roostishaw, your shell script must follow cgi conventions and interact with the WWW correctly
[07:22] <thoreauputic> nickrud: s/formats/modules ?
[07:22] <nickrud> thoreauputic, thank you
[07:22] <thoreauputic> :)
[07:23] <nickrud> stardash, did you see the correction from thoreauputic ?
[07:23] <stardash> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-formats-2.6.12-10-386
[07:23] <thoreauputic> heh
[07:23] <nickrud> :)
[07:25] <garryF> If stardash is using breezy shouldn't he be downloading the driver from nvidia.com instead of getting them from the repositories that are drivers for dapper or has that changed?
[07:25] <nickrud> stardash, linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[07:26] <thoreauputic> garryF: if he has breezy his repos should be breezy repos
[07:26] <nickrud> garryF, the best driver is not the issue, but what is the driver that is suppored
[07:26] <garryF> Oh yeah
[07:27] <Socket7`> hi
[07:27] <Socket7`> i need help getting x to see a laptop display right. I have a modeline thats supposed to work for my particular laptop, and i put it in the monitors section of xorg.conf. but I'm still getting an error when i start x saying   (II) I810(0): Not using mode "1280x768" (no mode of this name)
[07:27] <stardash> I got it from repositories
[07:27] <gopena> k
[07:27] <gopena> im pissed off
[07:27] <gopena> someone told me
[07:27] <VieLGus-KuTas> better to be pissed off then pissed on
[07:27] <gopena> that if installed all the upadtes
[07:27] <garryF> VieLGus-KuTas LOL
[07:28] <gopena> the update program would let me upgrade to 6.06
[07:28] <gopena> but its not
[07:28] <iamelite> iiiears: im backl
[07:28] <gopena> help me
[07:28] <gopena> anyone
[07:28] <nickrud> a good choice. Not the latest, but integrated and working
[07:28] <gopena> im tired
[07:28] <Knome> Socket7': have you tried installing '915resolution' ?
[07:28] <gopena> ?
[07:28] <iiiears> iamlite - (crosses fingers) Okay, How did it go?
[07:28] <iamelite> iiiears: Now its saying Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:28] <gopena> i installed over 120 updates
[07:28] <iamelite> When i start my wine game
[07:29] <Socket7`> Knome, I did not know of its existence until you just spoke of it
[07:29] <gopena> the program isint saying i can update anythig more
[07:29] <Knome> Socket7`: do you have access to a command line?
[07:29] <nickrud> iamelite, so, take that to wine. no offence, but that
[07:29] <nickrud> s not ubuntu
[07:29] <iiiears> iamlite - add dri to modules section and possibly glcore
[07:29] <gopena> i dont want a dev version
[07:29] <Socket7`> Knome, yes.
[07:29] <gopena> i want to upgrade to the stable build
[07:29] <Socket7`> i have a terminal open
[07:30] <Knome> Socket7`: try 'sudo apt-get install 915resolution'
[07:30] <iamelite> glxgears are running at 60 frames
[07:30] <iamelite> dri to modules. ok
[07:30] <iiiears> iamlite - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg enable the framebuffer device and the option for dri and glcore.
[07:30] <gopena> someone help me upgarde to 6.06 im a friggin retard
[07:30] <gopena> anyone?
[07:30] <Socket7`> Knome, it does not exist
[07:30] <Knome> k
[07:30] <Knome> just a min
[07:31] <nickrud> gopena, what are you running currently
[07:31] <gopena> i think
[07:31] <gopena> umm breezy
[07:31] <gopena> 5.10
[07:31] <Socket7`> cant find package
[07:31] <Subvertir> What's a good gnome mp3 player? preferably with a panel applet to control it
[07:31] <nickrud> gopena, lsb_release -a will tell you for a fact
[07:31] <gopena> k hold on nickrud
[07:32] <Krhis> Subvertir, I use xmms and gnome-xmms
[07:32] <Knome> Socket7`: that's odd apt-cache shows it on my system
[07:32] <Subvertir> Krhis, thanks I'll try that out
[07:32] <Socket7`> mine doesn't :(
[07:32] <nickrud> rhythmbox, or muine are nice
[07:33] <gopena> Nickrud- its 5.10 alright
[07:33] <gopena> breezy badger
[07:33] <iiiears> !botsnack
[07:33] <Krhis> No bot :(
[07:33] <nickrud> gopena, then ubotu isn
[07:33] <nomin> for anyone whos interested, I found a great addon for firefox.  It lets you choose which media player to use for different file types.  This may get rid of the need for plugins if you don't mind opening the videos or audio externally
[07:34] <nickrud> t around, I'll get a link a sec
[07:34] <iiiears> !Sends flowers and wishes ubotu a speedy recovery. -lol
[07:34] <gopena> what?
[07:34] <gopena> whats an isn?
[07:34] <nomin> https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/446/
[07:34] <Sjoerd_> I have awstats running and it includes hits on the stats pages, any way to stop this?
[07:34] <wastrel> awstats eh.  there's probably an ignore list you can configure.
[07:35] <gopena> nickrid
[07:35] <nickrud> gopena, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[07:35] <gopena> thanks
[07:35] <nickrud> gopena, it's reasonably good page, read it thru
[07:35] <Sjoerd_> wastrel: Do you think there is a way to stop the hits on www.domain.com/awstats/ from being included in the apache logs?
[07:35] <gopena> i will thanks
[07:35] <gopena> bye everyone
[07:36] <wastrel> Sjoerd_:  i dunno but i bet there's a way to tell awstats to ignore those hits.
[07:36] <garryF> !ubotudead?
[07:36] <iamelite> ok its not about just wine, im getting 60 frames in glxgears. It says Load modules "DRI" in xorg.conf
[07:36] <nickrud> dapperupgrades nees the guy that just did restrictedformats to redo ;)
[07:37] <Sjoerd_> wastrel: Allright... It was just that I saw the log file being full with hits from awstats.
[07:37] <iiiears> wasterl - While you tell it to ignore certain IP ranges. Change the default listen port. keep it well above above 1000
[07:38] <garryF> iamelite: I had one fellow having issues getting dri to work. We tried all kinds o things, till he just marked it for reinstall and it started working.
[07:38] <garryF> He was using compiz with an nvidia card.
[07:38] <iamelite> garryF: so off to package manager then
[07:39] <Socket7`> Knome,  mine does not have it
[07:39] <garryF> iamelite Good luck.
[07:39] <yallaman> zomg...direct rendering is broke again..*cries'
[07:39] <nf4> is there a way to format flash cards with ubuntu
[07:39] <garryF> He did get compiz and dri both working. I didn't want to give the impression that running compiz with nvidia was a bad idea. It seems to work for him.
[07:40] <iiiears> compiz is fun. - Having trouble with it locking up. - wondering if it iis a hardware or software problem.
[07:40] <Socket7`> Knome,  i can download and run the binary for 915resolution though
[07:40] <iamelite> GarryF: It wasnt intalled... LOL
[07:40] <Knome> try it
[07:40] <nickrud> garryF, that is a well known fix for debian based systems; the packagers are aware of the problems, and if you keep up to date you get a lot of fixes
[07:40] <Socket7`> Knome I have and I'm confused already
[07:41] <Socket7`> A usage satement isn't much help to me when I can answer none of the fields.
[07:41] <garryF> nickrud Hmm. Well, I run the update stuff regularly.
[07:41] <nf4> i had a bad usb port and have some curupted data on my xp card and need to format it but it the computer dosent even reconize it any more
[07:42] <nickrud> garryF, that was a hopeful version of how it works, I admit
[07:42] <Socket7`> Knome, it shows me some modes
[07:42] <Socket7`> but what do i do with them?
[07:42] <garryF> nickrud :)
[07:42] <nickrud> garryF, but, it's true. Sometimes patience is a virtue
[07:43] <Knome> Socket7`: i'm actually not sure but I read about someone who used it to get 1280x768 on their laptop
[07:43] <garryF> nickrud Yep.
[07:43] <dli> nf4,  what card ?
[07:43] <Socket7`> Knome,  well this doesn't look like it will help me
[07:43] <Socket7`> it cant find the proper modes anyways
[07:43] <Knome> Socket7`: k I just threw it out there
[07:44] <nf4> fuji film
[07:44] <nf4> xd 128
[07:44] <garryF> nickrud The user with his issue, who I sent to reinstall, just told me he found out that his stuff wasn't installed at all. LoL.
[07:44] <Socket7`> :/
[07:44] <VieLGus-KuTas> Socket7`: whats ur problem?
[07:44] <NickGarvey> smells bad
[07:44] <nickrud> garryF, welcome to the support teamsters
[07:44] <Socket7`> i need help getting x to see a laptop display right. I have a modeline thats supposed to work for my particular laptop, and i put it in the monitors section of xorg.conf. but I'm still getting an error when i start x saying   (II) I810(0): Not using mode "1280x768" (no mode of this name) and the display runs at 1024x768
[07:45] <dli> nf4, the device shows up in dmesg ? or install sg3_utils and run command " sg_map "
[07:45] <nf4> the problem with my usb port is that it is one that is on the front of the case and it dosnt have enough plugs that plug in to the motherboard so it isnt stable
[07:45] <nf4> whats dmesg
[07:45] <Aven> hey
[07:45] <dli> Socket7`, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[07:45] <Aven> how do you apt-get and re install a software?
[07:45] <Aven> via command line, not synaptic
[07:46] <Socket7`> dli, done it. 3 times.
[07:46] <garryF> dmesg is a command that shows you what took place when you last booted linux.
[07:46] <dli> Socket7`, pastebin your xorg.conf
[07:46] <Sjoerd_> wastrel: I tried but it keeps including them :(
[07:46] <wastrel> Sjoerd_:  i dunno :]
[07:47] <dli> nf4, if you know the problem? why not try another port for the time being?
[07:47] <Sjoerd_> wastrel: This is the line: SkipFiles="REGEX[^\/awstats] "
[07:47] <Socket7`> dli www.pastebin.com/729703
[07:47] <Dapperguy> hey where is init.d supposed to be in ubuntu
[07:48] <Aven> how do you apt-get and re install a software?
[07:48] <nf4> yeah i didnt find out until the data was corupted becouse it would read it just had a problem writing
[07:48] <Aven> via command line, not synaptic
[07:48] <Socket7`> It's not going to do you much good, seeing as X completely ignores the modes set inside it. :(
[07:48] <Sjoerd_> Aven: apt-get remove then apt-get install
[07:48] <nickrud> Aven, sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package>
[07:48] <Bot_Builder> can anyone recommend a good way to view tex files?
[07:48] <dli> test
[07:48] <Sjoerd_> Bot_Builder: For what?
[07:48] <Aven> ah ok
[07:48] <VieLGus-KuTas> Socket7`: did you run the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[07:48] <Dapperguy> Bot_Builder, nano
[07:48] <Aven> anyone know a good identd software? other than oident
[07:48] <garryF> !YouThere?
[07:48] <Bot_Builder> uh, just in general, I'd like to look at the content of a .tex file i have
[07:48] <Aven> is there any other?
[07:48] <Socket7`> VieLGus-KuTas,  yes. 3 times.
[07:48] <Bot_Builder> Not the markup, what it actually looks like
[07:49] <thoreauputic> Aven: gidentd ?
[07:49] <dli> Bot_Builder, kile from kde
[07:49] <Socket7`> VieLGus-KuTas,  it creates a valid config file but then i get the same error i pasted above and X defaults to 1024x768
[07:49] <Sjoerd_> Bot_Builder: Yes you can use nano like Dapperguy suggested, if you need to edit use sudo nano <file>
[07:49] <Aven> thoreauputic: thanks
[07:49] <nickrud> thoreauputic, I've always wondered, why one ident over another?
[07:49] <Dapperguy> are hard links in red?
[07:49] <charlesJacobs> how do I set up and distribute files over a local network in ubuntu?
[07:49] <charlesJacobs> with other ubuntu machines
[07:49] <VieLGus-KuTas> well , do it , and when u select the resolutions, select the one you want as the only one you monitor can display , also make sure you select the correct driver from the list ,
[07:49] <dli> Bot_Builder, you may try lyx
[07:49] <Socket7`> VieLGus-KuTas, I have also put a modeline in the monitors section of xorg.conf, but it gets ignored too with the same error.
[07:50] <VieLGus-KuTas> Socket7`: what is your video card?
[07:50] <Aven> hey, what group is the main account supposed to be?
[07:50] <Sjoerd_> Bot_Builder: please define: what it actually looks like
[07:50] <Aven> the main account as powerful as root, with sudo
[07:50] <daaku> i'm having this strange problem that my laptop running dapper suffers from this odd lag (in pretty much everthing - including doing something as simple as typing in a shell)
[07:50] <thoreauputic> nickrud: no idea - I just found that one with apt-cache a few weeks ago and installed it
[07:50] <nickrud> ok
[07:50] <Socket7`> VieLGus-KuTas,  perhaps you are misunderstanding me. I ran the configurator correctly. I set the resolutions I wanted correctly It still does not work.
[07:50] <thoreauputic> nickrud: I only use it for IRC...
[07:50] <nickrud> me also
[07:50] <Bot_Builder> Sjoerd_: what the tex markup actually means - I was under the impression it is presentational markup
[07:50] <nickrud> thoreauputic,
[07:50] <Socket7`> VieLGus-KuTas, running the configurator has already failed to fix the problem.
[07:50] <garryF> The main account should be in a group matching the name of the user if you are using dapper
[07:50] <charlesJacobs> daaku: do you have an ATI video card?
[07:50] <nf4> can i format the drive in terminal
[07:50] <Aven> hey, what group is the main account supposed to be?
[07:50] <Dapperguy> are hard links in red text?
[07:51] <Bot_Builder> dli - Ok, i'll try kile, thanks
[07:51] <thoreauputic> nickrud: ?
[07:51] <daaku> charlesJacobs: no, its an intel 915 with shared memory
[07:51] <nickrud> thoreauputic, bad return key usage, no moe
[07:51] <Sjoerd_> Bot_Builder: I think it's only included in kde package
[07:51] <thoreauputic> nickrud: ah, OK :)
[07:51] <Socket7`> VieLGus-KuTas, http://femto.cs.uiuc.edu/~sbond/Fujitsu_P5010D/ is all the info i have on my laptop
[07:52] <Sjoerd_> Bot_Builder: You use a cli version right?
[07:52] <Dapperguy> hardlinks > red ?
[07:52] <garryF> Hmm, I wonder if I misread Aven's question.
[07:52] <charlesJacobs> daaku: you might want to try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", go through that, and then restart X
[07:52] <charlesJacobs> how do I set up and distribute files over a local network in ubuntu? with other ubuntu machines
[07:52] <daaku> another odd thing is that top shows pretty high user CPU usage, even though the process list when sorted by CPU usage doesnt show anything that high
[07:52] <Socket7`> bah. theres a hack for this on the page
[07:52] <Dapperguy> charlesJacobs, read https://help.ubuntu.com/pdf/ubuntu/C/serverguide.pdf
[07:52] <dli> charlesJacobs, nfs or simply scp
[07:52] <nf4> daaku that happend to me when i didnt have the video drivers properly installed might want to check in to that
[07:53] <Socket7`> god i hate compiling stuff.
[07:53] <Dapperguy> so if a delete a hard link does that delete the file it points to?
[07:53] <charlesJacobs> Dapperguy: thanks
[07:53] <charlesJacobs> dli: nfs
[07:53] <nf4> dapper uses 200-300mb of ram just idleing on my system
[07:53] <dli> nf4, " free -m "
[07:53] <daaku> charlesJacobs, nf4: i looked at my xorg.conf, and it seemed ok - but i'm going to shutdown X and see if i still see the lag
[07:54] <Bot_Builder> Sjoerd_ - I'm not sure what 'cli version' is, however i just got kile off synaptic
[07:54] <nf4> free -m?
[07:54] <daaku> nf4: my clean boot uses less than 150mb :)
[07:54] <kinection_> hello, i'm wondering... how fast does ubuntu tend to run on a 700mhz AMD? because it's being very slow for me.
[07:54] <VieLGus-KuTas> Socket7`: ok , cant really help u with that , maybe somone that has done it before will take over
[07:54] <Dapperguy> kinection_, i have it on a 400 mhz with 256 ram, works ok
[07:54] <nf4> i have 2gb so  i am not worried :)
[07:54] <Amaranth> daaku: default install of dapper uses 96MB of RAM on boot
[07:55] <kinection_> Dapperguy: ok, do you know of any potential places where i should look for to see why's slow?
[07:55] <Socket7`> VieLGus-KuTas, I think I just need to get this damn hack working
[07:55] <wastrel> kinection_:  it'll be very slow.  more RAM will help, and using a lightweight windowmanger instead of gnome or kde
[07:55] <nickrud> kinection_, it can be slow; the key is to choose a light theme: I use clearlooks on an 800 mhz and it's ok
[07:55] <Dapperguy> so can someone help me with my question on links
[07:55] <daaku> Amaranth: with X?
[07:55] <Dapperguy> kinection_, how much ram?
[07:56] <wastrel> Dapperguy:  what wm are you using?
[07:56] <Amaranth> daaku: Yep.
[07:56] <kinection_> 256+128 stick
[07:56] <Dapperguy> wastrel, kde
[07:56] <kinection_> 372
[07:56] <kinection_> 372MB, 700mhz amd athlon
[07:56] <dli> kinection_, 384 should be ok
[07:56] <kinection_> er,, 374
[07:56] <kinection_> ...
[07:56] <kinection_> sorry
[07:56] <Drunkellius> acroread-plugins
[07:56] <kinection_> i meant what he said
[07:57] <Drunkellius> what are the plugins actually ?
[07:57] <daaku> Amaranth: really? the number is from top, or something else? i know RAM usage numbers can be different based on where you get them :)
[07:57] <kinection_> yea... i guess it should be, the whole story is, however. i"m also running XGL/Compiz... BUT! it was a little slow before that too. I'm just wondering where can i look for bottlenecks
[07:57] <Dapperguy> whats the package name for xfce?
[07:57] <daaku> Amaranth: otherwise i gotta figure out where it all goes!
[07:57] <Amaranth> daaku: From gnome-system-monitor
[07:57] <dli> kinection_, your fault, you run xgl on an old machine
[07:57] <Amaranth> daaku: BenM first pointed it out to me
[07:58] <Amaranth> daaku: and he knows memory usage :P
[07:58] <nickrud> kinection_, xgl is not really good
[07:58] <kinection_> nickrud: i wanted to play around and see what it's like, so i took a box i didn't care about to test it out on
[07:58] <thoreauputic> Dapperguy: you probably want either xfce4 or xubuntu-desktop
[07:58] <daaku> Amaranth: i'll have to look into it
[07:58] <Dapperguy> thoreauputic, which has smaller overhead?
[07:58] <nickrud> kinection_, heh. play away, then :)
[07:58] <kinection_> nickrud: and i actually like it a lot, although some of the plugins aren't that stable
[07:59] <kinection_> nickrud: i'll probably remove it later, but i was just looking for performance enhancements elsewhere,
[07:59] <thoreauputic> Dapperguy: both are xfce4 - xubuntu-desktop just adds a collection of apps etc
[07:59] <nickrud> I'm waiting till september, then looking int aiglx
[07:59] <dli> kinection_, why would you complain it for being slow?
[07:59] <nickrud> into, that is
[07:59] <kinection_> dli: because it was slow before installing XGL/Compiz too
[07:59] <Dapperguy> thoreauputic, kewl>> hey do you know if hard links are red?
[07:59] <thoreauputic> Dapperguy: apt-cache depends xubuntu-desktop will show you
[07:59] <kinection_> dli: XGL/Compiz actually hasn't made too much of a hit on it, performance wise
[07:59] <dli> kinection_, okay, stop X, and debug
[07:59] <Dapperguy> thoreauputic, stupid question...lol
[08:00] <thoreauputic> Dapperguy: ? My xterms are set not to use colours :)
[08:00] <Amaranth> "\he latest Dapper betas are starting up GNOME with less than 95 MB of ram. This is really impressive. Everyone involved in this should feel really good about it."
[08:00] <Amaranth> oops
[08:00] <Amaranth> should say The
[08:00] <kinection_> dli: i may do that later when i don't need x to be running
[08:00] <thoreauputic> Dapperguy: I got sick of dark blue on black ;)
[08:00] <Dapperguy> thoreauputic, what is the command to tell you if hard or soft?
[08:00] <nickrud> thoreauputic, then you are lazy. Or, a masochist for using xterm
[08:00] <garryF> Poke your finger with a pin, if what comes out matches the color of the link, the link is red.
[08:00] <thoreauputic> nickrud: actually I mostly use urxvt, and I plead guilty to laziness :)
[08:01] <nickrud> thoreauputic, I have never even tried  urxvt, so laziness is my name
[08:01] <dli> garryF, some blood can be blue
[08:01] <Amaranth> daaku: "The latest Dapper betas are starting up GNOME with less than 95 MB of ram. This is really impressive. Everyone involved in this should feel really good about it."
[08:02] <thoreauputic> nickrud: there you go :) Gnome-terminal is too slow for my taste
[08:02] <garryF> dli I was thinking of some remark about if it's blue then you are dead but I figured I was pushin it. :)
[08:02] <Dapperguy> thoreauputic, where is init.d in ubuntu
[08:02] <Socket7`> great. now this hack for my laptop wont compile
[08:02] <thoreauputic> Dapperguy: which one? All in /etc/
[08:02] <xarq> is there a guide to building ubuntu from scratch, for us masochistic technical types?
[08:02] <Dapperguy> the one for deamons
[08:02] <daaku> Amaranth: nice. maybe i should look into gnome based desktop again :)
[08:02] <Amaranth> daaku: hehe
[08:02] <thoreauputic> for instance /etc/init.d/gdm and so on
[08:02] <Dapperguy> thoreauputic, the one for deamons
[08:03] <nickrud> thoreauputic, it's a balancing act for me: learn as little as possible, leverage other peoples work. gnome-terminal wins hands down :)
[08:03] <thoreauputic> Dapperguy: there's usually one for each daemon
[08:03] <xarq> Dapperguy: do you mean demons, or daemons?
[08:03] <Dapperguy> daemons
[08:03] <Socket7`> if i try to compile something with GCC and GCC says stdio.h stdlib.h sys/io.h unistd.h string.h are missing. What do I do to obtain them so i can compile this damn code?
[08:03] <thoreauputic> Dapperguy: as I said, depends which daemon
[08:03] <dli> Dapperguy, /etc/init.d/ and /etc/rc?.d ( links)
[08:03] <garryF> sounds like you need build-essentials
[08:03] <Amaranth> daaku: holy crap running in vmware it's only using 89MB
[08:04] <thoreauputic> Dapperguy: for instance the ssh daemon is /etc/init.d/ssh
[08:04] <Dapperguy> i have no init.d directory
[08:04] <Dapperguy> under /etc
[08:04] <daaku> Amaranth: damn. ok, i'm convinced, time to make use of the spare partition
[08:04] <Amaranth> Dapperguy: Wow you broke something. :/
[08:04] <thoreauputic> Dapperguy: you must have or your ubuntu wouldn't be running
[08:04] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:04] <yoshiznit123> xarq, like ubuntu from scratch?
[08:04] <daaku> Amaranth: maybe using the installer will fix my lag issue too
[08:05] <Dapperguy> Amaranth, yeah ive ben fuqn with this box for awhile
[08:05] <xarq> yoshiznit123: yes, is that a site or web page or something?
[08:05] <Dapperguy> thoreauputic, well its running, connected via putty
[08:05] <dli> Socket7`, install build-essential
[08:05] <thoreauputic> Dapperguy: don't try rebooting without /etc/init.d then :)
[08:05] <Dapperguy> thoreauputic, ssh
[08:05] <Dapperguy> thoreauputic, already have
[08:05] <thoreauputic> *cough*
[08:06] <Dapperguy> thoreauputic, works finwe
[08:06] <yoshiznit123> xarq, no just made it up :-). i tried doing something like that for debian once. bootstrapping dpkg and apt is pretty hard. of course, you can just recompile packages incrementally
[08:06] <Dapperguy> fine
[08:06] <yoshiznit123> xarq, if you really want a completely custom system, you might want to look at lfs
[08:07] <garryF> I could never do a an lfs with my attention span being that of a dead gnat.
[08:07] <xarq> yoshiznit123: well, the problem is I would want to have an ubuntu system when I finished building it
[08:08] <wastrel> putty is a windows ssh program
[08:08] <Dapperguy> i thik its automatically replaced when you install another package
[08:09] <yoshiznit123> xarq, yea... i haven't found any documents about it, but i've been thinking for a while of doing something like that. the problem with compiling everything is that if you want a *true* ubuntu system, you would have to compile debs and then install them
[08:09] <Dapperguy> so init.d is the msconfig of ubuntu?
[08:09] <Amaranth> something like that, yeah
[08:09] <nickrud> garryF, cut and paste, cut and paste. what more is there?
[08:10] <yoshiznit123> so i guess you could start with ubuntu-minimal and build-essential, and recompile each package in it and install it over. not really as cool as lfs though :-)
[08:10] <dli> Dapperguy, we don't know msconfig :)
[08:10] <nickrud> except googling what's not obvious?
[08:10] <Dapperguy> well where do i config what starts and doen't?
[08:10] <Dapperguy> *doesn't
[08:10] <Amaranth> Dapperguy: man update-rc.d
[08:10] <dli> Dapperguy, by GUI, System -> Admin -> Services
[08:10] <Amaranth> Dapperguy: or System -> Administration -> Services
[08:11] <Dapperguy> Amaranth, so rc.d is for daemons?
[08:11] <dli> Dapperguy, however, it's rarely needed for you to interfare manually, simply install/remove packages to suit your needs
[08:11] <garryF> nickrud My eyes tend to skip lines and misread them, and well it just runs down to my incapability of reliably following clear instructions or noticing that I've skipped a line or two down.
[08:12] <nickrud> Dapperguy, install sysv-rc-c0onf
[08:12] <nickrud> garryF, that is the bane of irc
[08:12] <Dapperguy> nickrud, wat is that?
[08:12] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: thanks
[08:13] <Dapperguy> i just connect to ubuntu via openssh and use command line
[08:13] <nickrud> Dapperguy, a very useful tool for controlling what services are running on your machine.
[08:13] <garryF> !ubotu
[08:13] <Amaranth> Dapperguy: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:13] <Amaranth> garryF: ubotu died and went to bot heaven
[08:13] <Dapperguy> Amaranth, im already connected via putty
[08:13] <jason> how can i use steam on linux
[08:13] <garryF> Amaranth Yeah, I have been waiting for his second coming.
[08:14] <Amaranth> jason: cedega
[08:14] <nickrud> soop, who's gonna ping cafugo, and tell him his bot is dead? not me
[08:14] <Dapperguy> whats a good command line utility for services, similar to midnight commander, something i can run vga gui from command line
[08:15] <dli> nickrud, you don't have a backup bot?
[08:16] <garryF> nickrud Somehow I got that wizard of odd song in my head. Ping dong, the bot is dead, the bot is dead, please fix the bot ...
[08:16] <Dapperguy> whats that blue screen erfered to vga gui?
[08:16] <Dapperguy> *referred
[08:16] <Dapperguy> like mc
[08:17] <nickrud> garryF, get a better player, for your sanity :)
[08:17] <wastrel> ncurses?
[08:17] <garryF> nickrud LoL
[08:17] <Dapperguy> be cool if they made a vga mode wm
[08:18] <nickrud> I hate running a box as myself, sudo is evil
[08:18] <nickrud> or, sudo reports me :)
[08:19] <wastrel> what's steam?
[08:19] <nickrud> hot water
[08:19] <garryF> If I had a penny for every time I remembered to use sudo after I got a permissions denied error, Bill gates would be calling me to borrow money.
[08:19] <wastrel> half my bash history is sudo !! i'm sure
[08:20] <wastrel> well not half but half my sudo calls maybe
[08:20] <nickrud> jason, we
[08:20] <Bot_Builder> yeah, I think nautilus should be able to do things by popping up the sudo gui box thing
[08:20] <nickrud> eh, bad joke anyway
[08:20] <garryF> Steam is a login service used to access certain online games if I recall.
[08:20] <jason> nickrud, what
[08:20] <Stefano145> hello .. I havbe a problem with azureus on ubuntu dapper 6.06 with latest updates ... can anybody try to help me?
[08:20] <Bot_Builder> garryF - notably half life 2
[08:21] <dli> steam http://www.steampowered.com
[08:21] <nickrud> jason, bad joke