[14:40] <Silverlion> a beautiful good Morning/Day/Afternoon/Evening/Night around the globe ;)
[16:07] <mcbaine1> Silverlion, http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/21/2723790/what-are-you-listening-too
[16:08] <Silverlion> mcbaine1 : what is that?
[16:08] <mcbaine1> mostly gameing/music news  :: What are you listening to ??
[16:11] <mcbaine1> Silverlion, hello Are you a Power-PC user ??
[16:11] <Silverlion> mcbaine1 : nope Laptop
[16:11] <mcbaine1> macbook pro ?
[16:11] <mcbaine1> Silverlion, macbook pro ?
[16:12] <Silverlion> nope ^^ simplely windows
[16:12] <Silverlion> :D
[16:14] <mcbaine1> Silverlion, I don't get the joke , but here's a link to a music page for you (You :: stream it ) http://www.topacousticsongs.com/
[16:19] <mcbaine1> Silverlion::: He's a hak for your browser :::http://www.ghacks.net/2008/10/19/internet-explorer-repair/ ::  Not sure we're on the ??
[16:19] <mcbaine1> **Not sure we're on the same page ??


[08:59] <rgl_> hi
[09:00] <rgl_> I'm trying to install ubuntu in a raid, so I've downloaded the alternate install cd, but it installs X, is there other CD that can install to raid, but without X?
[09:24] <rgl_> oh the server install cd is fine.
[16:45] <blahblahx> does ubiquity work on debian?


[02:40] <yookoala> Hello. I've got a strange problem and I don't know where to report or file.
[02:40] <yookoala> My computer logs me off whenever I turn off my screen.
[02:40] <tsimonq2> How are you sure that is what's doing it?
[02:41] <tsimonq2> And what Ubuntu release are you using?
[02:42] <yookoala> I'm sure the session is gone because I checked my previously opened process (e.g. Firefox, terminal). None are still there after I turn on the screen and redo login.
[02:42] <yookoala> I'm using artful
[02:42] <yookoala> beta 2 with all packages on the latest version.
[02:42] <tsimonq2> Hm, I'm unsure.
[02:42] <tsimonq2> yookoala: Have you tried asking in #ubuntu?
[02:43] <yookoala> There are other users encounter the same problem:
[02:43] <yookoala> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2372388&p=13694315
[02:43] <yookoala> This is strange because I have 2 artful installation. It only happens in one of them.
[02:43] <yookoala> (the desktop)
[02:44] <yookoala> tsimonq2: No. I haven't asked in #ubuntu. Why?
[02:44] <tsimonq2> yookoala: They might be able to help you a bit better :)
[02:45] <yookoala> How better could they help me file a bug report than this channel?
[02:45] <tsimonq2> Much better.
[02:45] <yookoala> Alright then.
[02:48] <yookoala> Turns out nobody is really there to answer anything...
[02:50] <tsimonq2> yookoala: Wait around, you'll get an answer eventually :)
[02:51] <yookoala> Let's hope so.
[03:28] <yookoala> Nope. Nobody could answer me that.
[21:49] <Thewafflication> Hello all, I am running the daily build of 17.10 desktop.  After a recent update, my system no longer boots properly with a Nvidia Quadro NVS290 in the system.  How can I report this?


[05:59] <luis220413> amurray: Please sponsor my update for Kinetic in bug 1978891.
[06:01] <luis220413> amurray: Please ignore, you already commented at 23:43 UTC


[00:14] <Stemming78> Trying to mount MUSIC and POSTER from my Vista machine....  Getting error:  mount error 20 = Not a directory
[00:17] <MUS4SHIII> can anyone help me with mythtvfs fstab config?
[00:20] <Stemming78> MUS4SHIII:  this may be of help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[00:21] <MUS4SHIII> thanks, I'll read through this.
[00:24] <weiser> hmm, anyone got Mythstream to work in the new .21 version?
[00:24] <rhpot1991> weiser: not backported, its in the process
[00:25] <weiser> cool, is the a place where I can see what the backport team working on?
[00:34] <Stemming78> Trying to setup my share from Vista machine still rhpot1991...  Can you assist
[00:36] <Stemming78> Need assitance with FSTAB:  mounting 3 folders from my Vista Machine
[00:36] <rhpot1991> weiser: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gutsy-backports/+bug/202988
[00:37] <rhpot1991> Stemming78: I don't have Vista, but you can ask and we will see if me or anyone knows
[00:38] <Stemming78> I can mount my Video directory using sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/Movies /var/lib/mythtv/videos -o username=corey,password=,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777
[00:39] <Stemming78> Editing FSTAB with: /<IP_ADDRESS>/Movies    /var/lib/mythtv/videos        cifs    credentials=/root/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 0
[00:40] <Stemming78> At boot, it will FAIL
[00:40] <rhpot1991> do a sudo mount /var/lib/mythtv/videos, with that in your fstab
[00:41] <rhpot1991> see if it gives a failure message
[00:41] <rhpot1991> also why the heck are you using /root?
[00:43] <rhpot1991> you are missing a / at the very front of that line too, should be //servername/sharename
[00:44] <Stemming78> That might be the prob...  Tried to bi-pass the smbcred and reboot... hung abain
[00:45] <Stemming78> Would this put cred at root:  sudo chown root .smbcredentials
[00:46] <rhpot1991> no, chown changes the owner
[00:46] <rhpot1991> ideally you prob want that in your home directory
[00:46] <Stemming78> I have it at ~/corey
[00:47] <rhpot1991> if your user name is corey then ~ should point at /home/corey/
[00:47] <rhpot1991> so that would be in /home/corey/corey
[00:50] <Stemming78> location:  home/corey/,smbcredentials
[00:50] <Stemming78> So, should read:
[00:50] <Stemming78> //<IP_ADDRESS>/Movies    /var/lib/mythtv/videos        cifs    credentials=/home/corey/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 0
[00:52] <rhpot1991> not sure about "iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777" but the rest looks ok
[00:52] <rhpot1991> try to sudo mount /var/lib/mythtv/videos
[00:52] <rhpot1991> and see what happens
[00:53] <Stemming78> All the movies are in Video Manager
[00:54] <Stemming78> reboot?
[00:54] <rhpot1991> no need
[00:54] <rhpot1991> unless you want to check it
[00:54] <rhpot1991> this isn't windows :P
[00:55] <Stemming78> what command can I use to use the fstab file
[00:55] <rhpot1991> that happens automagically on boot
[00:56] <rhpot1991> you can force something to mount like I said above
[00:56] <Stemming78> so I do need to reboot the box to verify mounting instructions will work...  :P
[00:57] <Stemming78> ahh, had a good laugh there.
[00:57] <rhpot1991> if it mounts with mount then it should mount when booting
[00:57] <rhpot1991> but feel free to test if you want
[00:57] <abarbaccia> hello all - can i ask a question about mythbuntu hardy alpha 4?
[00:58] <Stemming78> Yah, I knew it would mount... just had command setup wrong;  missing / probably was NOT good.
[00:58] <abarbaccia> anybody using a serial blaster with it successfully?
[00:58] <rhpot1991> that and the wrong path to the credentials file would make it fail
[00:59] <Stemming78> Yah, your right..
[00:59] <Stemming78> Help with this one... Get error 20 when trying to mount the MUSIC and POSTER locations
[01:01] <Aquahallic> superm1: you around??
[01:01] <Stemming78> sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/Music /var/lib/mythtv/music -o username=corey,password=,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=077
[01:01] <Stemming78> mount error 20 = not a directory
[01:02] <rhpot1991> sounds like your /var/lib/mythtv/music doesn't exist
[01:04] <abarbaccia> ehh, nevermind guys - looks like it was just positioning it on the box correctly
[01:05] <Stemming78> That is the default location;  verified General Settings and it has this address
[01:06] <rhpot1991> Stemming78: yes, but verify its actually there, I bet you its not
[01:06] <Aquahallic> Stemming78: try going to the dir from the cli
[01:07] <Stemming78> I open the player, after cli?
[01:07] <Stemming78> *cli?
[01:07] <Aquahallic> Command Line Interface
[01:07] <rhpot1991> accessories>termainal
[01:07] <rhpot1991> then cd /var/lib/mythtv
[01:08] <rhpot1991> and ls to see whats there
[01:08] <Aquahallic> even if you see music there.. make sure it's not a link...:)
[01:08] <Stemming78> Its there and contains 1 track I just cp'ed to it
[01:09] <Aquahallic> you sure it's not a link?
[01:09] <Stemming78> cd /var/lib/mythtv/music
[01:09] <Stemming78> that would be the file structure correct?
[01:09] <Aquahallic> yup
[01:10] <Aquahallic> do that then look to make sure it doesn't link you to somewhere else
[01:10] <rhpot1991> cd /var/lib/mythtv
[01:10] <krznpsk> hi, i'm booting the mythtv 7.10 iso for the 1st time and the screen goes blank and stays that way before i get to any kind of GUI.  is this normal?
[01:10] <rhpot1991> ls -la
[01:10] <Stemming78> I did...  cd /var/lib/mythtv/music    -> contains 1 track in folder
[01:11] <krznpsk> mythbuntu 7.10, that is
[01:11] <rhpot1991> a link will show -> pointing at where the link goes
[01:11] <rhpot1991> it shouldn't be a link
[01:11] <Stemming78> NO, just visually telling you what is in the folder
[01:12] <Stemming78> hold a sec... rebooted to check the MNT sititation
[01:12] <Aquahallic> You can't mount to a dir that's not empty I don't think
[01:12] <Stemming78> CRAP: videos STILL wont mount.
[01:13] <Stemming78> I was thinking that so I cped a music file into it.
[01:13] <Stemming78> *after the fact
[01:13] <Aquahallic> rm it then try to mount it
[01:14] <rhpot1991> check the permissions too, make sure it matches your video directory
[01:14] <Stemming78> check permissions cmd please?  still in learning phase....
[01:15] <krznpsk> pretty messed up that it won't boot since i am already running ubuntu on the same box
[01:15] <Aquahallic> ls -al will show you
[01:15] <krznpsk> is there an option to run the mythbuntu installer from a running ubuntu install?
[01:17] <Stemming78> videos is showing drwxrwxrwx     1     root    root
[01:17] <Stemming78> music, pictures, recordings...
[01:18] <Stemming78> drwxrwsr-x     2      mythtv    mythtv
[01:18] <rhpot1991> thats right, thats because you have a cifs share on videos
[01:19] <Aquahallic> rhpot1991:  what's the s??
[01:19] <Aquahallic> that a typo??
[01:19] <rhpot1991> paste your line agian
[01:19] <rhpot1991> no, its a sticky bit
[01:19] <Aquahallic> ahh
[01:20] <Stemming78> No, s for music and recordings...   pictures shows x
[01:20] <Aquahallic> what user he logged in as??
[01:20] <Stemming78> *same charactor location
[01:20] <Aquahallic> Stemming78:  you logged in as mythtv??
[01:21] <Stemming78> Logged in under user account
[01:21] <rhpot1991> Aquahallic: shouldn't matter, since root mounts
[01:21] <rhpot1991> Stemming78: paste your line again
[01:21] <Aquahallic> true true
[01:23] <Stemming78> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60244/
[01:23] <Stemming78> VIDEO mounted at boot...  hurray for me!!!
[01:24] <Stemming78> actually, cudos to you guys!
[01:24] <rhpot1991> Stemming78: modify that and put the line you are trying to mount the music with
[01:25] <Stemming78> sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/Music /var/lib/mythtv/music -o username=corey,password=,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=077
[01:25] <Stemming78> that?
[01:25] <rhpot1991> ya
[01:25] <rhpot1991> you are missing a 7 on the end
[01:26] <rhpot1991> try just copying your other line in fstab, and plug in the music directory and shares instead
[01:26] <rhpot1991> then use sudo mount /var/lib/mythtv/music to test it
[01:26] <Stemming78> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60245/
[01:27] <Stemming78> that would be a typo.
[01:28] <Stemming78> Im not followign you with that:   try just copying your other line in fstab, and plug in the music directory and shares instead
[01:29] <Stemming78> Thats essentually what I have done...  Will try again as the // and creds  are correct now.
[01:29] <rhpot1991> do it in your fstab though
[01:29] <rhpot1991> since that works
[01:30] <rhpot1991> make a copy of that line and swap out the video stuff for music stuff
[01:30] <Stemming78> yah, but videos will mount with that command.
[01:30] <rhpot1991> as they are esentially the same, just different locations
[01:33] <Stemming78> corey@MythFrontend:/tmp$ sudo cp fstab /etc/fstab
[01:33] <Stemming78> corey@MythFrontend:/tmp$ sudo mount /var/lib/mythtv/music
[01:33] <Stemming78> [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[01:33] <Stemming78> mount error 20 = Not a directory
[01:33] <Stemming78> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g.man mount.cifs)
[01:33] <Stemming78> corey@MythFrontend:/tmp$
[01:33] <Stemming78> That would be a "no go"
[01:34] <Stemming78> gonna try to create another directory, change path in Frontend, and mount...
[01:35] <Stemming78> MP3 work for a dir name?
[01:35] <tgm4883> Stemming78, you need it to be /var/lib/mythtv/music/
[01:35] <tgm4883> not
[01:35] <tgm4883> /var/lib/mythtv/music
[01:36] <rhpot1991> when I said copy, I meant the last line, not the whole file
[01:37] <rhpot1991> just make a copy of your videos line, and put it below that and make it your music line
[01:37] <rhpot1991> each line there mounts a drive
[01:39] <Stemming78> ok, going to post my fstab....  give me a sec
[01:39] <Stemming78> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60246/
[01:40] <Stemming78> Videos mounts, have not tried after adding "/" at end of music
[01:40] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: I don't think it matters if you end with a / or not, I don't for my nfs shares
[01:41] <Stemming78> Having the same problem with POSTERS
[01:42] <tgm4883> hmm, perhaps it's only with symbolic links
[01:43] <rhpot1991> Stemming78: same error?
[01:43] <tgm4883> whats the error
[01:43] <rhpot1991> have you verified that the shares exist under those exact names, and that the user in your credentials file has access to them?
[01:45] <Stemming78> Mount error 20 - Not a directory
[01:46] <Stemming78> yes and no... Credentials should work as Videos directory is pulling information.
[01:46] <Stemming78> 3 shared directorys on the Vista box:  MUSIC, POSTERS, MOVIES
[01:47] <rhpot1991> not sure if vista shares are case sensitive or not, worth checking
[01:48] <rhpot1991> "Make sure that the user has permission to both access the share and the folder within Windows (Sharing and Security tabs)."
[01:48] <rhpot1991> from the interweb
[01:49] <Stemming78> think I got it guys
[01:50] <abarbaccia> anybody else getting segfaults from lirc
[01:50] <Stemming78> Was checking the "sharing" when you where asking me to...  but, had to set it to "everyone"... Was set to "corey" which is the account I am logging in at...  wierd
[01:51] <Stemming78> THANK YOU!
[01:51] <Stemming78> *Movies were set to everyone!
[01:51] <Stemming78> Sorry for that...  my error...
[01:54] <Stemming78> As you may have guessed, finalizing my setup ATM...  Is there a way to fix VIDEO MANAGER so it will finish a load....   When I enter it, LOADING....   stays on page (static) so it prevents me from editing a movie title and using the MANUAL IMDB
[01:54] <MUS4SHIII> anyone know how to get "switch_audio" to work in mplayer?
[02:05] <Stemming78> This is strange:  MUSIC mounts and shows music in directory...   Trying to access them in MythMusic; only seeing the 1 track I had copied into the directory prior to getting it mounted.  Anything needing to be done to "bring them in" like Video Manager would do.
[02:06] <MUS4SHIII> No mplayer gurus in here eh?
[02:08] <abarbaccia> i'm really having trouble with the serial blaster in mythbuntu - anybody have any luck with it (8.04 beta)
[02:08] <abarbaccia> or alpha for that matter
[02:13]  * JThundley scrolls up
[02:15] <JThundley> http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-users/2006-December/064661.html says to get the svn version
[03:53] <asmythe> I have two tuners and one sound card and both of my cards are tv wonder pro how do I make it work
[03:58] <Stemming78> asmtythe: try this http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATI_TV-Wonder
[04:02] <Stemming78> asmythe: The ATI All-in-Wonder cards (which are not the same as the ATI TV Wonder, TV Wonder VE or
[04:02] <Stemming78> TV Wonder Pro) will not work as a MythTV capture device because the GATOS http://gatos.
[04:02] <Stemming78> sourceforge.net drivers that are available provide only a limited subset of the V4L API. The TV
[04:02] <Stemming78> Wonder series of cards are supported by the Bt8x8 Video4Linux driver.
[04:03] <Stemming78> Seems someone has worked a way arround this using Dapper which I know nothing about...  May need to do some hunting
[04:19] <MythbuntuGuest28> im getting a database setup error with mythweb, any ideas?
[04:19] <kmyth> hi... i just updated my system w/ apt-get and i cant get mythvideo to install
[04:19] <kmyth> the package is kept back
[04:21] <rhpot1991> MythbuntuGuest28: verify the password in /var/www/mythweb/mythweb.conf has the right password
[04:21] <rhpot1991> kmyth: sudo apt-get install mythvideo
[04:21] <kmyth> heh
[04:21] <kmyth> i was about to do that
[04:22] <kmyth> thanks
[04:22] <rhpot1991> np
[04:22] <kmyth> so whats new in .21 ?
[04:22] <rhpot1991> lots
[04:23] <rhpot1991> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Release_Notes_-_0.21
[04:26] <MythbuntuGuest28> do you mean mythweb.apache.conf? and it should match the settings in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt?
[04:27] <rhpot1991> MythbuntuGuest28: ya
[04:31] <MythbuntuGuest28> ok the password was wrong, i changed it, but still doesnt work, is a restart required for the settings to take effect?
[04:32] <rhpot1991> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[04:36] <MythbuntuGuest28> still the same error
[04:37] <rhpot1991> try:
[04:37] <rhpot1991> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[04:37] <rhpot1991> then restart
[04:38] <MythbuntuGuest28> ok
[04:51] <MythbuntuGuest28> hmm, still doesnt work, any more ideas?
[04:51] <rhpot1991> verify that password is correct
[04:51] <rhpot1991> can try rebooting I guess
[04:52] <MythbuntuGuest28> i did try rebooting, ill double check the password again, but im pretty sure its right now
[04:54] <MythbuntuGuest28> yeah the password is set right now
[04:54] <MythbuntuGuest28> but still doesnt work after a reboot
[04:55] <Gibson82> Good evening all.
[05:05] <Gibson82> Can anyone direct me to some resources on adding files from a windows network share to the frontend?
[05:06] <MythbuntuGuest28> samba?
[05:07] <MythbuntuGuest28> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/Server/WhatNext/Samba
[05:09] <Gibson82> Sorry, should have specified more info. I've got Samba running, have the shares mapped/mount to the desktop. I can see them fine...just don't know where to go in the front end to add it to the library and such
[05:10] <MythbuntuGuest28> pictures? music? what are you sharing?
[05:11] <MythbuntuGuest28> should be in the settings section for whichever plugin your using for the type of file it is
[05:11] <Gibson82> music, video
[05:12] <Gibson82> I can't seem to add a directory
[05:12] <Gibson82> Couldn't find an option to browse to it.
[05:12] <MythbuntuGuest28> just type in the mount point of the share
[05:13] <MythbuntuGuest28> for example /home/dennis/windowsShare/music
[05:13] <MythbuntuGuest28> i think
[05:14] <MythbuntuGuest28> of course it would depend on where you have the shares mounted
[05:14] <tgm4883_laptop> Gibson82, try this
[05:14] <tgm4883_laptop> sudo mount -t cifs //netbiosname/sharename /media/sharename -o guest,iocharset=utf8
[05:14] <rhpot1991> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently?highlight=(share)|(windows)
[05:14] <rhpot1991> check that out Gibson82
[05:15] <Gibson82> k
[05:16] <MythbuntuGuest28> still having trouble with mythweb and a database setup error, i got the /var/www/mythweb/mythweb.conf.apache password set right now but still not able to open in the browser
[05:16] <rhpot1991> MythbuntuGuest28: same error or something different?
[05:17] <MythbuntuGuest28> same error
[05:18] <MythbuntuGuest28> http://pastebin.com/m7125fbe7 here is the error
[05:19] <rhpot1991> pastebin your mythweb.apache.conf (make sure you strike out your password)
[05:19] <MythbuntuGuest28> ok
[05:23] <Gibson82> ok, sorry about the delay-the shares are perm mounted as far as I can tell. I rebooted earlier and they popped back up on the desktop, so I would say they are there to stay. Basically what I'm looking for is where in the front end menu do you add these? I've looked around and haven't found a place. Plus, there are multiple shares I need to add.
[05:25] <MythbuntuGuest28> http://pastebin.com/m2d40d919
[05:26] <rhpot1991> Gibson82: is <IP_ADDRESS> a backend accessible to other boxes?
[05:27] <MythbuntuGuest28> yes
[05:27] <rhpot1991> sorry not gibson there
[05:27] <rhpot1991> so other backends/frontends are verified to connect to it with that same password?
[05:28] <MythbuntuGuest28> ive only actually tried with mythtv player on a windows machine and it didnt need a password
[05:28] <MythbuntuGuest28> havent set up another frontend yet
[05:29] <rhpot1991> well, does mythweb live on the same box as your backend?
[05:29] <MythbuntuGuest28> yes
[05:30] <tritium> MythbuntuGuest28: I think mythweb (or something in mythtv that takes schedules direct data) is broken right now
[05:30] <rhpot1991> try changing that to <IP_ADDRESS> and see what happens, remember the old one though incase you need to change back
[05:31] <rhpot1991> you can just copy the line and put a # in front of the old one
[05:31] <MythbuntuGuest28> ok
[05:31] <tritium> mythweb channel listings are broken for me, after the recent upgrade to 0.1
[05:31] <tritium> 0.21*
[05:32] <tritium> Only a small subset of the local HD channels, though.
[05:32] <tritium> And I verified that the raw XML file from SD is good.
[05:33] <rhpot1991> tritium: did you verify that db info exists?
[05:34] <rhpot1991> might want to check out the fill database commands for regrabbing the channels
[05:34] <tritium> rhpot1991: I don't know how, but it's only about 4 channels, out of several, that show NO DATA
[05:34] <tritium> The other HD channels do have data.  It's quite bizarre, and a local friend is having the same issue.
[05:34] <rhpot1991> sounds like your listings have no data
[05:35] <tritium> The raw XML checked out.  I submitted a service request to SD, and I followed the procedures to check it.
[05:35] <tritium> (It also checks out on Couch Potato on the Mac)
[05:36] <tritium> rhpot1991: I'm not too concerned at the moment.  I plan to wipe and reinstall when 8.04 comes out
[05:36] <MythbuntuGuest28> i changed that and restarted apache2 and noticed something
[05:37] <tritium> rhpot1991: thanks for your help, though :)
[05:37] <MythbuntuGuest28> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[05:37] <MythbuntuGuest28> should i use that instead of <IP_ADDRESS>?
[05:37] <rhpot1991> tritium: np, if you get bored you can look at the mythfilldatabase command, there is an option to refresh the current days data
[05:37] <rhpot1991> MythbuntuGuest28: nope
[05:38] <rhpot1991> did <IP_ADDRESS> help at all?
[05:38] <tritium> rhpot1991: ah, thanks.  I'll check it out.
[05:38] <MythbuntuGuest28> nope still the same error
[05:49] <MythbuntuGuest28> ive been reading http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-592340.html
[05:49] <MythbuntuGuest28> would uninstall/purging mythweb and apache and reinstalling be a good idea?
[05:50] <rhpot1991> shouldn't need to, and if you do I'd only do mythweb
[05:50] <rhpot1991> theoretically you would be starting from scratch
[05:50] <rhpot1991> what version of mythbuntu are you running?
[05:51] <MythbuntuGuest28> one of the recent 8.4 betas
[05:51] <MythbuntuGuest28> im not sure exactly when i got it, a couple of weeks ago
[05:51] <rhpot1991> you sure its up to date and all?
[05:52] <rhpot1991> I had to go and fix my password, but it just worked after that
[05:52] <MythbuntuGuest28> yep, it took a coupld of days to get all the updates, but its all  up now
[05:52] <rhpot1991> the digest doesn't get turned on in the current mythweb either, so if you want password protection you need to uncomment those lines
[05:52] <rhpot1991> let me check the bugs to see if any of the password stuff was in there
[05:53] <MythbuntuGuest28> im not really conserned about protection, its an internal network
[05:53] <MythbuntuGuest28> and port forwarding is screwed up on my router so i cant get in even when i want to
[05:57] <MythbuntuGuest28> exactly what commands should i use for purging apache? the guy only listed the command for purging mythweb
[05:58] <rhpot1991> dpkg --purge <package>
[05:58] <rhpot1991> you might be safer using something like synaptec and its "complete removal"
[05:58] <rhpot1991> which does the same
[05:59] <rhpot1991> just incase it tries to pull a bunch of other stuff with it
[05:59] <MythbuntuGuest28> ok
[06:03] <MythbuntuGuest28> would mcc be the best way to reinstall mythweb after purging it and apache?
[06:03] <MythbuntuGuest28> it should get me everything i need right?
[06:07] <MythbuntuGuest28> ok i reinstalled it with mcc and now i get an index of /mythweb
[06:07] <MythbuntuGuest28> what do i need to do to actually get it going?
[07:52] <Rigolo> good morning
[10:06] <cann> hey
[10:10] <cann> so i upgraded to 7.10 and 0.21 and i cant get my  Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus DVB-S to tune , anyone else have these problems ? i tried the latest 4vl drivers, i removed the DiSEqc switch and only using 1 LNB. still the same problem. when i hook the dish up to a regular sat box i can scan but no luck in my mythbox.
[10:19] <Aquahallic> Mornin'
[10:41] <Aquahallic> If you don't set a password for mythweb what user is it using when you're trying to access videos using flash streaming??
[10:41] <Aquahallic> is it using whatever user is logged into mythbuntu on the backend??
[12:09] <joan_> does anybody know where #mythtv channel is?
[12:12] <croppa> #mythtv-users
[12:14] <joan_> croppa: is a development question (Qt, I'm making a plugin)
[12:15] <croppa> OK
[14:08] <MythbuntuGuest28> mythweb isnt working for me, it gives me the Index of /mythweb instead of loading the page, if i click on mythweb.php it asks if i want to save the file
[14:21] <camelreef> good afternoon from Scotland
[14:21] <camelreef> rhpot1991, are you there?
[14:22] <camelreef> I would need assistance with mythexport and aac in Hardy
[14:23] <MythbuntuGuest28> morning from alaska, rhpod1991 was helping me about 8.5 hours ago, looks like that was the last time he said anything
[14:26] <camelreef> heh, he is probably sleeping, then
[14:26] <camelreef> thanks
[14:27] <MythbuntuGuest28> mythweb isnt working for me, it gives me the Index of /mythweb instead of loading the page, if i click on mythweb.php it asks if i want to save the file
[14:28] <camelreef> your apache config is bad
[14:28] <camelreef> you may want to remove/reinstall the mythweb package
[14:29] <camelreef> you may not have php installed either
[14:29] <MythbuntuGuest28> i did that last night, purged mythweb and apache, then reinstalled mythweb through mcc
[14:29] <camelreef> gutsy? Hardy?
[14:29] <MythbuntuGuest28> hardy
[14:30] <camelreef> I have noticed inconsistencies with yesterday's update of mythweb, on the apache config
[14:30] <MythbuntuGuest28> i changed the password in mythweb.conf.apache to match mysql.txt
[14:30] <camelreef> you may want to open a bug
[14:30] <camelreef> you problem is not that password, reaching that moment would be good
[14:31] <MythbuntuGuest28> ive had the problem for a few days, first it was giving me a database not configured error, but the reinstal of mythweb and apache last night changed that so now i get the index
[14:32] <camelreef> you are getting the index becaus apache doesn't know about php5
[14:32] <MythbuntuGuest28> so its an apache configuration problem?
[14:33] <camelreef> so far, yes
[14:33] <camelreef> do you have libapache2-mod-php5 installed ?
[14:34] <MythbuntuGuest28> yes
[14:34] <camelreef> normally the dependencies should bring all that together
[14:34] <camelreef> you apache config is screwed up, that is for sure
[14:35] <camelreef> why and where, I don;t know
[14:35] <camelreef> but is is not ealthy
[14:35] <camelreef> healthy
[15:06] <hmmm32> howdy
[15:07] <hmmm32> does anyone have any expierance with the air2pc 1st gen cards
[15:07] <hmmm32> cause i got one and it doesn't get great signal
[15:07] <hmmm32> any advice
[15:09] <hmmm32> anyone here
[15:10] <MythbuntuGuest28> i was just talking to the ##php guys and they helped me get that part working, the php mods werent in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled so i coppied them from mods-avaliable
[15:10] <MythbuntuGuest28> now i get the database setup error again
[15:10] <MythbuntuGuest28> so they sent me back here to figure that out
[15:27] <foxbuntu> MythbuntuGuest28, do you run anything on apache2 other than mythweb from that machine?
[15:28] <MythbuntuGuest28> the error says make sure that mod_env is enabled in httpd.conf but /etc/apache2/httpd.conf is empty, is this the problem?
[15:28] <foxbuntu> MythbuntuGuest28, no...in Ubuntu/Debian thats different anyhow
[15:29] <MythbuntuGuest28> ok, how can i troubleshoot this problem?
[15:29] <foxbuntu> MythbuntuGuest28, easier to reload apache 2 and mythweb
[15:30] <foxbuntu> your apache config is screwed up somewhere because mod_env should be enabled by default
[15:30] <foxbuntu> its part of the php5 hook to apache 2
[15:30] <MythbuntuGuest28> ok last night i purged apache and mythweb and reinstalled them with mcc
[15:31] <MythbuntuGuest28> then i got the /mythweb index
[15:31] <foxbuntu> k
[15:31] <foxbuntu> then its prob the php.ini
[15:31] <MythbuntuGuest28> so i coppied the php mods from avaliable to enabled
[15:31] <MythbuntuGuest28> now i get the database setup error
[15:32] <foxbuntu> so wait a min? you changed all of the php5 modules to enabled?
[15:32] <MythbuntuGuest28> yes
[15:33] <foxbuntu> you don't need to do that
[15:33] <MythbuntuGuest28> ok thats what the php guys told me to do
[15:33] <foxbuntu> and that can provide for a security risk and a slower BE
[15:33] <MythbuntuGuest28> i should delete them then?
[15:34] <foxbuntu> you should set php5 back to its defaults
[15:37] <MythbuntuGuest28> ok i deleted the files i had copied and tried to restart apache
[15:38] <MythbuntuGuest28> it says syntax error on line 104 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mythweb.conf invalid command 'php_value' perhaps misspelled
[15:38] <MythbuntuGuest28> etc...
[15:39] <foxbuntu> MythbuntuGuest28, how did you installed mythweb to start with?
[15:40] <MythbuntuGuest28> cd a couple of weeks ago, downloaded and burned it, 8.4 beta
[15:40] <MythbuntuGuest28> its compleatly updated
[15:41] <foxbuntu> try to purge apache and php5
[15:41] <MythbuntuGuest28> command for that?
[15:42] <foxbuntu> sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2 php5*
[15:42] <foxbuntu> it might throw  depends errors im not sure it will let you but we will see
[15:43] <MythbuntuGuest28> it also gave me a list of no longer required and said to use apt-get autoremove
[15:43] <MythbuntuGuest28> should i do that as well?
[15:43] <foxbuntu> no
[15:44] <MythbuntuGuest28> ok
[15:44] <foxbuntu> did it fail or work?
[15:44] <MythbuntuGuest28> it worked, the only think of interest is warning: while removing mythweb, directory '/usr/share/mythtv/mythweb' not empty so not removed
[15:45] <foxbuntu> MythbuntuGuest28, do this
[15:45] <foxbuntu> sudo rm -rf /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb
[15:46] <MythbuntuGuest28> done
[15:46] <foxbuntu> now:
[15:46] <foxbuntu> sudo apt-get remove --purge mythweb
[15:47] <MythbuntuGuest28> package mytheb is not installed so not removed
[15:47] <foxbuntu> k
[15:49] <MythbuntuGuest28> now what is the best way to reinstall it all?
[15:49] <foxbuntu> sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 php5-mysql php5-ffmpeg mythweb
[15:50] <MythbuntuGuest28> ok, now what?
[15:51] <foxbuntu> try surfing to mythweb
[15:52] <MythbuntuGuest28> unable to connect
[15:52] <foxbuntu> unable to connect to what?
[15:52] <MythbuntuGuest28> with the server
[15:52] <foxbuntu> the SQL DB, the website?
[15:52] <MythbuntuGuest28> with the localhost
[15:52] <foxbuntu> ok...
[15:53] <foxbuntu> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[15:53] <MythbuntuGuest28> ok now i can connect to the localhost but not to /mythweb i get the database setup error
[15:54] <foxbuntu> ok
[15:54] <foxbuntu> getting close
[15:54] <foxbuntu> sudo dpkg-reconfigure myth-database
[15:55] <MythbuntuGuest28> myth-database is not installed and no info is available
[15:55] <foxbuntu> oops...think its mythtv-database
[15:56] <MythbuntuGuest28> is root right for the administrator account?
[15:56] <foxbuntu> yes for the DB
[15:56] <foxbuntu> and the password is the sudo password
[15:57] <MythbuntuGuest28> ok
[15:57] <foxbuntu> done?
[15:57] <MythbuntuGuest28> yes
[15:57] <foxbuntu> do the same thing for mythweb
[15:58] <MythbuntuGuest28> actually it says access denied for user<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(using password: YES)
[15:58] <foxbuntu> when you go to mythweb?
[15:58] <MythbuntuGuest28> no mythtv-database
[15:59] <foxbuntu> when you setup mysql did you set a root password?
[15:59] <MythbuntuGuest28> i dont remember, i dont think so
[15:59] <MythbuntuGuest28> should it just be blank?
[16:00]  * foxbuntu had a brain lapse myql doesnt auto set the root password
[16:00] <foxbuntu> if you didn't set it, then yes
[16:00] <foxbuntu> but you should set it first
[16:01] <foxbuntu> open up MCC and set the MYSQL password then run the database reconfigure again using that password
[16:01] <MythbuntuGuest28> same problem, but it looks like we are getting somewhere, unfortunatly im late for work and havent had breakfast yet, ill be back pestering tonight, thanks for the help so far
[16:01] <foxbuntu> ok
[16:37] <bofh80> hi people. we have myth running, appears to be fine, i have a 3dfx tv 200 card with the 878a chip on it. we wish to record from the svideo instead of TV. none of the guides i can find seem to help here tho, they all seem to assume recording from the TV input . . . . . can someone help?
[16:38] <bofh80> we have television and composite 1 to 3 listed on the input selections, however none of the these seem to bring up anything. i have test with xawtv and the feed is coming in on the composit 3
[16:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> !logs
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[18:19] <nico_> good evening from Scotland
[18:20] <camelreef> rhpot1991, are you there? I have a question about mythexport
[18:20] <rhpot1991_laptop> camelreef: whats up?
[18:21] <camelreef> I looked at the script, the aspect component is not really used, is it?
[18:22] <rhpot1991_laptop> hmmm, looks like I left it off the mpeg/xvid line when I redid that
[18:22] <camelreef> at least for the ipod export
[18:23] <camelreef> the only place I can see it used if in case of the psp export
[18:23] <rhpot1991_laptop> camelreef: for now you can just modify that command and add a "-aspect $aspect"
[18:24] <rhpot1991_laptop> I'm not really sure its needed, as the size is there
[18:24] <camelreef> I get weird exports
[18:24] <rhpot1991_laptop> try adding it in and see if that helps you
[18:24] <rhpot1991_laptop> how are they weird?
[18:25] <rhpot1991_laptop> I'd like to go back to the original VBR lines, but they didn't work with gutsy
[18:25] <camelreef> in the UK DVB-T switches often from 16: to 4:3 you end up having both in the same recording, 16:9 before and after the show, 4:3 during the kids cartoons
[18:25] <camelreef> what's your experience in Hardy ?
[18:26] <rhpot1991_laptop> what does your recording do, then squish them?
[18:26] <rhpot1991_laptop> errr, export
[18:26] <camelreef> yup
[18:26] <camelreef> squish or expand
[18:28] <rhpot1991_laptop> try tossing that aspect flag on that line and see if that helps
[18:31] <rhpot1991_laptop> if you installed from apt, the binary lives in /usr/bin/mythexport
[18:31] <rhpot1991_laptop> s/binary/script
[18:31] <camelreef> yup
[18:31] <hmmm32> howdy
[18:31] <camelreef> modified, job started
[18:31] <hmmm32> i can't get any channels to come in
[18:32] <hmmm32> i think the snr is to low
[18:32] <hmmm32> is there anyway to boost it
[18:32] <tgm4883_laptop> hmmm32, you could get a better antenna, or have better antenna placement
[18:34] <hmmm32> hmm
[18:34] <hmmm32> maybe ill try aming it better
[18:34] <camelreef> better antenna, better cabling, get rid of cheap splitters, get rid of cheap amplifiers that are more than 4 feet of the antenna, get a masthead amplifier as close as possible from the antenna
[18:34] <camelreef> change your plugs
[18:34] <hmmm32> it's a brand new antenna
[18:34] <hmmm32> its the air2pc card
[18:35] <hmmm32> 1st gen
[18:35] <camelreef> a good aim is a nice start!
[18:35] <hmmm32> i think that its a particularly sensitive card
[18:35] <hmmm32> cause my tv works fine with the same setup
[18:35] <camelreef> if it is sensitive, you should have problems
[18:35] <camelreef> not
[18:35] <hmmm32> when i do channel scan
[18:36] <hmmm32> it says like 20 to 30% signal/noise
[18:36] <hmmm32> and only 25% tops signal
[18:36] <hmmm32> can i get maybe a filter
[18:36] <hmmm32> or something to filter out noise
[18:37] <camelreef> there is no filtering, there is only making sure you have a stronger signal with less crap insertion
[18:37] <camelreef> rhpot1991_laptop, exported, transfering to my machine
[18:37] <hmmm32> so how do i get less crap insertion
[18:38] <hmmm32> i think i need to not be so cheap and get a better capture card
[18:38] <hmmm32> whats a good one to get
[18:38] <hmmm32> for atsc
[18:39] <camelreef> rhpot1991_laptop, niiiiice, using the aspect flag again over-rides it well for 4:3, thanks much. Trying known 16:9 now
[18:41] <camelreef> less noise insertion: change your plugs, better cabling, get rid of cheap splitters, get rid of cheap amplifiers that are more than 4 feet of the antenna, get a masthead amplifier as close as possible from the antenna
[18:42] <camelreef> rhpot1991_laptop, I read on the BB that you were working on an extension of the export script that would provide feeds, anything I could test?
[18:44] <hmmm32> is there a way to tell where the interference is comming from
[18:44] <hmmm32> could i use an fm trap
[18:46] <camelreef> there is no easy way
[18:46] <rhpot1991_laptop> camelreef: it pretty much done but I have been a slacker about making a GUI for configuring it
[18:46] <camelreef> can it be configured by hand atm?
[18:47]  * camelreef has hands ;o0
[18:47] <rhpot1991_laptop> yes, but it needs a table to be created as well
[18:47] <camelreef> oh
[18:47] <camelreef> fine
[18:47] <rhpot1991_laptop> and I was possibly going to change that up some with the interface
[18:47] <camelreef> ok
[18:47] <camelreef> I'll wait
[18:48] <camelreef> the Touch is not there yet anyway, I'm just paving the road :o)
[18:49] <rhpot1991_laptop> camelreef: I'll make sure to say something when I get that up, it will hit my PPA first and I can have you test it out then
[18:50] <rhpot1991_laptop> I might need to get a good version of ffmpeg for hardy up there as well, the current version doesn't play well with mythexport
[18:50] <camelreef> that version is old, same as in Gutsy
[18:51] <camelreef> you may want to lnk to a place explaining how to compile the source package with the risky option too somewhere
[18:51] <camelreef> mythexport only ises aac sound, and ffmpeg does not have encoding support by default
[18:51] <camelreef> ises=uses
[18:52] <rhpot1991_laptop> old is fine, but it needs to be able to do aac, and then for things like mythweb it needs to be able to do libmp3lame
[18:52] <camelreef> I scratched my head for a while on this one, and medibuntu is not up to speed on hardy yest
[18:52] <rhpot1991_laptop> so I might just throw a version up there for people to use, need to get my devbox back up first though, been changing hardware around
[18:52] <rhpot1991_laptop> nope, I requested that they bump it but haven't gotten any responses
[18:53] <rhpot1991_laptop> technically you can force their older version I guess, but that might break other things
[18:53] <camelreef> I ended up cmpiling from the source package myself, with the risky option, and manually adding x264 support
[18:54] <camelreef> but I am certainly not looking forward to supporting this myself
[18:54] <rhpot1991_laptop> in theory I should be able to just grab the hardy source and modify how it builds
[18:54] <camelreef> ah, the iPod touch uses a 3:2 aspect screen...
[18:55] <camelreef> I'll have to tweak my settings
[18:55] <rhpot1991_laptop> you can bump the res if you want as well, but I think I have it set to the highest the display can do, searching to verify that
[18:56] <camelreef> display is 480x320
[18:56] <camelreef> the script's default size is 320x240
[18:57] <camelreef> iPod Touch is 480x320
[18:57] <camelreef> Classic is 320x240
[18:57] <rhpot1991_laptop> 320x240 is the default for classic/video
[18:57] <rhpot1991_laptop> ya
[18:57] <rhpot1991_laptop> override that res for yours, get a nicer picture
[18:58] <camelreef> yup
[18:58] <rhpot1991_laptop> I have a 5g video, so some of the defaults are set to my stuff
[18:58] <camelreef> you selfish you :o)
[18:58] <rhpot1991_laptop> I should put those in the wiki
[19:01] <camelreef> OK, usinf the aspect variable in the script works well
[19:01]  * camelreef is happy
[19:02] <rhpot1991_laptop> camelreef: I'll make sure that gets fixed
[19:03] <camelreef> regarding size, when you pass it HxV, it uses Y as the base, increasing X if necessary
[19:03] <camelreef> It uses H as the base, increasing V if needed
[19:04] <camelreef> using V as the base and decreasing H would probably be better
[19:06] <rhpot1991_laptop> how would you recommend that gets done though?  right now all I do is feed that into ffmpeg and hope the user doesn't pass in something funky
[19:06] <camelreef> I'm looking into ffmpeg's options, but it doesn't look trivial
[19:06] <rhpot1991_laptop> in the GUI you will get to pick the size from a drop down, so I won't need to worry about anything then
[19:08] <rhpot1991_laptop> I know at some point I read about putting video on the ipod which was greater than the screen res
[19:08] <rhpot1991_laptop> cause you could play it back on the TV
[19:08] <camelreef> sure
[19:08] <camelreef> from my selfish point of view, and a mythtv user, I will only watch an export on the iPod
[19:08] <camelreef> and a Touch is flash, so limited in storage
[19:09] <camelreef> I was trying to see if I could save a few bytes
[19:10] <camelreef> I'd rather have a 16:9 video in 480x270 than in 568x320 on a 480x320 screen
[19:11] <rhpot1991_laptop> I see what you are saying
[19:11]  * camelreef wants a 200GB HDD-based iPod Touch
[19:11] <rhpot1991_laptop> use the debug option in mythexport to get a ffmpeg line
[19:11] <rhpot1991_laptop> and see what the sive difference is
[19:11] <rhpot1991_laptop> ffmpeg might be smart about that
[19:12] <camelreef> -s size             set frame size (WxH or abbreviation) mode (FLAC)
[19:15] <camelreef> I would love to be able to tell ffmpeg that this is the max size bracket and adjust according to the aspect
[19:15] <camelreef> it is treating it as he min size according to the aspect atm
[19:16] <tgm4883> HDD-based mp3players :(
[19:19] <camelreef> tgm4883, I'd love to have more than 32 GB in a Touch
[19:19] <camelreef> and still be able to aford it, the 32 GB price tag is high enough as it is
[19:21] <camelreef> ok, let' get rid of that nvidia card and replace it with the Intel SDVO HDMI board and see if the 2.2 driver works better
[19:22] <camelreef> 2.3 is close to release and includes MPEG2 XvMC :)
[19:49] <Shred00> no mythdvd or mythvideo in the 0.21 gutsy backports?
[19:49] <rhpot1991_laptop> Shred00: sudo apt-get install mythvideo
[19:49] <Shred00> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[19:49] <Shred00>   mythdvd
[19:50] <Shred00> is the mythdvd package deprecated in 0.21?
[19:50] <rhpot1991_laptop> its included in mythvideo now
[19:51] <Shred00> ahhh.  cool then.  :-)
[19:57] <zabadapp> i noticed that mythtv 0.21 is available for mythbuntu, but mythvideo is not checked in the list. Is that expected?
[19:57] <rhpot1991_laptop> zabadapp: sudo apt-get install mythvideo
[19:59] <tgm4883> rhpot1991_laptop, why can't i get mythdvd on my .21 machine.  It keeps saying there are conflicts
[19:59] <foxbuntu> lol
[19:59] <rhpot1991_laptop> heh, shooting for 3 in a row?
[19:59]  * foxbuntu smacks tgm4883 with a shovel
[19:59]  * tgm4883 falls over
[20:00] <zabadapp> well, or I could just tick the checkbox in the list of updates ... just curious why that single package isn't selected by default (every other myth-related package is selected already)
[20:00] <rhpot1991_laptop> zabadapp: its cause mythdvd is now included in mythvideo, and it needs your ok to remove it
[20:00] <laga> the default behaviour for updates is not to remove packages
[20:01] <laga> um, i dont think applies here, ignore me..
[20:02] <zabadapp> ah! so the dependency for mythvideo is to remove mythdvd (since it has been merged into mythvideo) ... and that destructive action is not by default?
[20:03] <laga> i wonder why mythdvd remains installed.. it depends on libmyth-0.20 so libmyth-0.20 probably is not removed?
[20:03] <rhpot1991_laptop> laga it does, the GUI's for updates will grey teh box out
[20:04] <rhpot1991_laptop> laga: libmyth-0.20 doesn't get removed unless the user apt-get autoremoves it
[20:04] <rhpot1991_laptop> or removes it by hand
[20:05] <rhpot1991_laptop> zabadapp: exactly, removing is generally bad and therefor things wont do that for you without you saying to do so first
[20:15] <tgm4883> Today we are introducing the Mythbuntu 8.04 beta image.  With this release, we are providing mirroring on sponsored mirrors as well as torrents.  Please visit our release page here http://www.mythbuntu.org/hardybeta.
[20:16] <laga> use http://www.mythbuntu.org/hardybeta to avoid http 404 :)
[20:16] <tgm4883> 404?
[20:17] <laga> there's a . at the end of your sentence
[20:17] <rhpot1991_laptop> people might copy instead of clicking
[20:17] <tgm4883> hmm, isn't a problem in xchat
[20:17] <tgm4883> ah
[20:17] <rhpot1991_laptop> some clients don't have clicking as well
[20:18] <laga> i dont have clicking in konsole either :/
[20:18] <laga> that's one of the things that bugs me about kde
[21:03] <camelreef> and some more endless weird things from the dear intel driver....
[21:03] <camelreef> back to nvidia
[21:04] <camelreef> 2.2 is not any better
[21:04] <camelreef> grrrr
[21:06] <laga> what's wrong?
[21:11] <camelreef> not displaying anything
[21:12] <laga> anything? X doesn't come up?
[21:14] <camelreef> X comes up
[21:14] <camelreef> logs show X fine
[21:14] <camelreef> except no image
[21:14] <camelreef> intel G965 plus SDVO/ADD2 on PCIE
[21:15] <camelreef> for HDMI
[21:15] <camelreef> http://www.youplala.net/~will/htpc/intel/
[21:15] <camelreef> I will take it to the xorg guys
[21:17] <laga> ah
[21:32] <camelreef> laga, did you take a look at the logs and conf? a new eye could spot the obvious
[21:34] <laga> hum
[21:34] <laga> what *exactly* is broken?
[21:35] <camelreef> if only I knew
[21:35] <camelreef> I get a black screen on my TV
[21:35] <laga> so, does X come up and playback is broken or just nothing at all?
[21:35] <camelreef> and the weird part is that I had a picture at one point...
[21:35] <camelreef> everything works, I can play TV, but I have a black screen
[21:36] <laga> dunno then :/
[21:36] <camelreef> X thinks it is up and all
[21:36] <camelreef> I'll re-subscribe to the xorg@fdo list...
[21:36] <laga> does it work with a lower res
[21:36] <laga> ?
[21:36] <camelreef> I don't know
[21:37] <camelreef> i had to put the system back into prod -> WAF
[21:37] <camelreef> so the nvidia is back
[21:37] <camelreef> I would so dearly like to get rid of it, though
[21:37] <camelreef> 1 less fan, and no more binary blob
[21:37] <laga> heh
[21:37] <laga> my nvidia cards are fanless
[21:37] <camelreef> I'll play some more with the Intel stuff this week end
[21:38] <camelreef> well, when you live in the country side, you buy what is available in the local shop
[21:38] <laga> heh
[21:38] <laga> i order from the intarwebs
[21:38] <camelreef> I intended to use the Intel stuff originally, hence the ADD2 card
[21:38] <camelreef> I was in a hurry, I wanted something that worked and that was cheap as a temporary solution
[21:39] <camelreef> I miss houston with Fry's and Microcenter 2mn away
[21:39] <laga> heh
[21:40] <camelreef> damn-it! Intel is the future for MythTV, nice way to add HDMI while still using the on-board chip, plus support for h/w accell for MPEG2+H.264 in the near future
[21:42] <camelreef> all that in an open driver using the fully released specs
[21:42] <laga> i wouldn't buy hardware because of promises for anything "in the near future" :) but it shouldn't be too hard to get it going
[21:43] <laga> maybe some register isn't set correctly
[21:43] <laga> or you broke something ;)
[21:43] <camelreef> the 2.3 driver for Intel already has the MPEG2 XvMC in it
[21:44] <camelreef> Keith Packard is working on the rest too
[21:44] <camelreef> he is quite an efficient guy, normally
[21:44] <laga> yeah..
[21:44]  * laga is always jealous of efficient people ;)
[21:44] <camelreef> me? breaking something? oy! ;o)
[21:45] <asmythe> Fry's and Microcenter aren't 2 minutes away from each other
[21:45] <camelreef> fine, I was 2mn away from Microcenter, Fry's on 59S was 15mn away
[21:46] <asmythe> Fry's electronics rocks
[21:47] <asmythe> that means that you are close to HAL-PC
[21:47] <camelreef> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=18299273444331129034,29.748772,-95.455732&saddr=2345+bering+dr,+77057&daddr=1717+West+Loop+S,+Houston,+TX+77027+(Micro+Center+Inc)&mra=pe&mrcr=0&sll=29.74413,-95.508551&sspn=0.06245,0.134754&ie=UTF8&z=16
[21:49] <asmythe> you have proven me wrong
[21:49] <camelreef> from where I used to live to Microcenter
[21:52] <camelreef> I agree with you, Fry's was further away
[21:53] <camelreef> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=18299273444331129034,29.748772,-95.455732&saddr=2345+bering+dr,+77057&daddr=1717+West+Loop+S,+Houston,+TX+77027+(Micro+Center+Inc)&mra=pe&mrcr=0&sll=29.74413,-95.508551&sspn=0.06245,0.134754&ie=UTF8&z=16
[21:53] <camelreef> from my place to Fry's
[22:12] <camelreef> and here we go, subscribed to xorg, and posted
[22:16] <zabadapp> upgraded to 0.21, get alot of the following in the mythbackend.log: MainServer::HandleVersion - Client speaks protocol version 31 but we speak 40! .. what is it about?
[22:16] <zabadapp> everything seems to work so far
[22:17] <zabadapp> (it's logged every 10s btw)
[22:17] <camelreef> same machine doing FE and BE?
[22:18] <camelreef> FEs and BEs all need to be upgraded
[22:18] <camelreef> yours are not
[22:26] <zabadapp> BE and FE on same machine, no remote FE's
[22:27] <camelreef> well, your FE is sill not upgraded, that's what the message says
[22:27] <zabadapp> updated to 0.21 through the updatemanager ... do I need to reboot?
[22:28] <camelreef> restart your FE
[22:28] <zabadapp> i have taken down BE and FE to run mythtv-setup .. so they should be OK
[22:29] <zabadapp> FE log says "using protocol 40"
[22:30] <Kadorkin> hi, if I install Mythbuntu is there any problem installing Apache and running Wordpress on the same box or it better to install Ubuntu server and add MythTV?  I'm new at this.
[22:31] <camelreef> zabadapp, well, someone must be speaking 31 nevertheless, the Be is not complaining out of pleasure
[22:31] <zabadapp> Ah! maybe I should restart apache so that mythweb is using the new upgraded version?
[22:32] <tgm4883_laptop> zabadapp, have you tried rebooting?
[22:32] <camelreef> Kadorkin, depending on our machines hardware resources and number of blog visits, you could be fine, or not....
[22:32] <zabadapp> no, no reboot ... that will be next up
[22:33]  * camelreef thinks that rebooting without a kernel update is too windows-ish
[22:34] <Kadorkin> camelreef, thanks.  I'ts P4 2Ghz and the Wordpress is really for development not a live site.  looks easier to get Myth running by starting from Mythbuntu
[22:34] <camelreef> Kadorkin, you should be fine
[22:34] <tgm4883_laptop> camelreef, you can hot reboot windows too
[22:35] <camelreef> you will already have all the pieces, Mythweb requires Apache, MythTV requires MySQL
[22:35] <camelreef> tgm4883, hot reboot, huh?
[22:36] <tgm4883_laptop> you can restart windows without restarting the computer
[22:36] <tgm4883_laptop> this would be equivelent to ctrl-alt-backspace
[22:36] <Kadorkin> excellent thanks guys
[22:37] <camelreef> and here we go: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2008-March/034104.html
[22:37] <tgm4883_laptop> it just kinda gets me sometimes when people say that rebooting is too windows
[22:38] <MythbuntuGuest68> hi guys
[22:38] <MythbuntuGuest68> just wanted to say, that your link to the 64bit 8.04 alternate install CD is wrong and leading to nowhere!
[22:39] <MythbuntuGuest68> the correct Link would be: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/daily/current/
[22:39] <camelreef> that link shall be spanked
[22:40] <MythbuntuGuest68> ^^
[22:40] <tgm4883_laptop> while that is technically correct.  That link was supposed to be pulled until canonical releases hardy beta
[22:40] <tgm4883_laptop> i'll fix it now
[22:41] <MythbuntuGuest68> just wanted to help you ;)
[22:42] <tgm4883_laptop> thanks
[22:43] <tgm4883_laptop> sorry foxbuntu, reflex
[22:43] <zabadapp> tgm4883_laptop:  rebooting made the protocol issue go away ...
[22:44] <tgm4883_laptop> zabadapp, figured as much
[22:44] <tgm4883_laptop> you just hadn't restarted the right thing yet
[22:56] <camelreef> oh well, bed time
[22:56] <camelreef> ttyl
[22:59] <zabadapp> isn't there a way to see recordings as flv on the mythweb in 0.21?
[23:10] <Stemming78> Is it possible to manually edit the lircrc file?  Everytime I do, the remote stops working and I have to re-run mythbuntu-lircrc-generator
[23:12] <foxbuntu> Stemming78, if you change the lircrc you have to restart the FE app for the changes to take effect
[23:16] <Stemming78> ? restart the FE app:  sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart?
[23:17] <Stemming78> I am doing this with Front End closed - reopen it and buttons no longer work
[23:27] <laga> you're probably doing something wrong then :)
[23:40] <Stemming78> laga:  seems I was,  edited the file in WinSCP and it seems to not have liked that.
[23:48] <wotten_> hey everyone
[23:49] <wotten_> I made a mistake and setup a slave BE as its own master....
[23:50] <wotten_> I corrected it but now when I set a program to record every week....
[23:50] <wotten_> everything looks correct but when the program is highlighted...
[23:51] <wotten_> it says that the recording is not listed.....when it really is
[23:51] <wotten_> and the program doesn't record....
[23:52] <wotten_> I can correct it by re-selecting it on the master....
[23:52] <wotten_> how can I correct the slave BE?


[01:09] <jmxiqz> hola
[03:50] <maxxik> Hi guys
[03:50] <maxxik> I've got sddm crash all the time after upgraded to "Plasma 5.4.3 and Applications 15.08.3 for Kubuntu 15.10 "
[03:51] <maxxik> what it strange - it doesnt work in normal mode but works with "upstart" ...
[03:52] <maxxik> anyone else exprienced ?
[04:49] <KingEdgar> So, I have an HP Pavillion g6 1211SS, and t he speaker audio, even when I max out speakers, master, and PCM is too low
[04:49] <KingEdgar> headphones and hdmi out sound perfect though
[04:51] <KingEdgar> i tried disabling pulseaudio to see if that was a culprit and adding myself to the audio group, then of course re-enabling and removing myself from audio when i discovered that did nothing :v
[05:47] <KingEdgar> brb
[07:40] <dunasdan> I have kubuntu-ppa/backports in my wily. I updated today. plasma 5.5.3 was in it. Afterwards sddm only showed a blank screen. In the logs was "sdd-helper exited with 6" and there was a message about Qt Platform not finding xcb in the log. But sadly I no longer have the log, (Since i did a ppa-purge and reboot afterwards)
[07:45] <soee> dunasdan: strange, i did an upgrade and all works fine here
[07:46] <soee> dunasdan: are you running propriety gpu driver maybe ?
[07:48] <soee> dunasdan: also what if you run: sudo apt-get install --reinstall sddm
[07:50] <dunasdan> i have intel graphics
[07:50] <dunasdan> But my /usr/share/sddm/scripts/Xsession prompted a diff. I don't think i have cahnged it manually by myself but I have zsh installed. The following was the diff
[07:51] <dunasdan> http://pastebin.com/qW0R6EME
[07:52] <dunasdan> sadly I can't run your command right now since I need the system for work now ;-). but i will try it again in the evening
[07:52] <soee> ok :-)
[07:55] <dunasdan> i did do an aptitude safe-upgrade first. there where 6 packages left. Then I did an apt-get dist-upgrade. Then I rebooted.
[07:57] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:00] <valorie> best to use apt now, rather than apt-get
[08:01] <valorie> so `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`
[08:01] <valorie> worth getting used to, imo
[08:01] <OerHeks> valorie, one can use both, except apt autoremove does not work, it needs apt-get.
[08:04] <dunasdan> Never heart of apt command before but i will try to use it then. It even has colors so it must be better ;-)
[08:05] <valorie> OerHeks: you are correct
[08:06] <valorie> but I've found apt better, where it works
[08:06] <valorie> colors!
[08:06] <valorie> and full-upgrade is better and less confusing that dist-upgrade
[08:25] <Smurphy> Hmmm. Interesting. latest ppa of KDE don't resolve dependencies completely;. Something is still broken.
[08:26] <soee> ?
[08:27] <Smurphy> soee: http://pastebin.com/DRNLMqSf that ...
[08:29] <soee> hmm, strange
[08:30] <Smurphy> removed kde-style-qt5-curve already.
[08:31] <Chronotoss> Hey guys .. I just got the new updates, and it's causing artifacting on my main screen, it's flickering blocks through the top of the monitor. Any ideas were to look to fix this? It does go away after a minutes.
[08:32] <hateball> What new updates are these?
[08:32] <hateball> Chronotoss: You can see what packages have changed by "cat /var/log/apt/history"
[08:33] <hateball> Were there changes to your video driver for instance?
[08:33] <Smurphy> Chronotoss could be that you need to clear your cache -> .cache/plasma*
[08:33] <Chronotoss> Umm ... Not sure, it updates KInfo and some other things. I didn't see anything change my video drivers.
[08:34] <Chronotoss> Smurphy: Just delete the cache folder?
[08:34] <Smurphy> hateball: Could you check this ? -> http://pastebin.com/DRNLMqSf
[08:34] <hateball> Smurphy: Hmmm?
[08:34] <hateball> I don't use PPA, so
[08:36] <Smurphy> Chronotoss: yep, and the cache files starting with plasma.
[08:36] <Smurphy> Best is you logout, go down to a console and delete it. If not, it will be written back from memory.
[08:36] <Chronotoss> Okay! yea and it took out my ability to move and X out of programs. brb!
[08:38] <Smurphy> Upgrading my system. Let
[08:39] <Smurphy> s see what breaks :D
[08:39] <Smurphy> Upgrading to plasma 5.5
[08:43] <Chronotoss> Alright I'm back. Am I going to have to clear the cache everytime a change is made to any graphics portion of the system?
[08:44] <hateball> Normally no
[08:46] <valorie> I've never cleared the cache
[08:46] <valorie> it's rarely necessary
[08:48] <Chronotoss> Odd I'm looking at my systemlog and it looks like i got an error in X ... says :  XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0"
[08:48] <Smurphy> Chronotos: What was to be expected. That's why you should have moved to a console first -> Alt-F1
[08:48] <Smurphy> Chronotoss: No. You will have to clear the cache everytime major changes in the plasma libraries take place.
[08:49] <valorie> ?
[08:49] <Chronotoss> Smurphy : Oh-kay,I'll just try that first from now on XD
[08:50] <Smurphy> :}
[08:50] <valorie> Smurphy: I never have
[08:50] <Smurphy> valorie: Depends. Do you upgrade your systems, or do you make clean installs ?
[08:50] <valorie> usually upgrade
[08:50] <Smurphy> I upgraded my system from Kubuntu 10.x to 15.x so far :)
[08:50] <valorie> occasional fresh installs
[08:50] <Smurphy> Well, it helped me from 15.04 to 15.10 and plasma 5.
[08:51] <valorie> I use laptops and the laptops eventually die for one reason or another
[08:51] <Smurphy> I have to restart my Desktop. Just upgraded to plasma 5.5. brb ...
[08:51] <Smurphy> :}
[08:51] <valorie> usually a broken hinge or so
[08:53] <Chronotoss> Hopefully at some point I'll be helpfull for someone else.
[08:56] <Chronotoss> Alright, looks like I have to do some Icon resizing and everything will be back to normal! Thank you all I hope you all have a good night!
[08:57] <nicols> valorie: i had to clear cache when upgrading to 5.5.3 ... i had some smaller problems with some icons not displaying correctly. after clearing cache it was OK :)
[08:58] <valorie> cool
[08:58] <valorie> I probably should do it more often
[09:02] <bdcomp> Hi! Just updated my Kubuntu 15.10 64bit via the Kubuntu Backports PPA to 5.5.3 (old xsessions file choosen). After reboot, all the screen full with horisontal lines, although everything seems to work. ~/.cache cleared - same result. Here my .xsession-errors http://pastebin.com/a4jdykNK Please advise
[09:05] <Smurphy> As I faired, the sddm won't start the plasma session anymore.
[09:05] <Smurphy> What to do ...
[09:06] <Smurphy> Could someone check this out for me ? I have no browser to check -> As I'm on the CLI.
[09:06] <Smurphy> How can I prevent sddm from starting over when I tell it to stop, so I can start my X session manually ?
[09:07] <Smurphy> stop sddm will just restart sddm
[09:07] <Smurphy> found it. Using service actually does it.
[09:08] <bdcomp> valorie: Any suggestion?
[09:09] <valorie> bdcomp: as I said before, please do `sudo dpkg configure -a` in a konsole or a terminal (control + alt + f2)
[09:09] <bdcomp> Trying now
[09:09] <valorie> if you use a terminal, it's control + alt + f7 to come back to the gui
[09:10] <valorie> or try other f-keys if that doesn't work for you
[09:10] <valorie> and this time, use a new xsession
[09:10] <Smurphy> valorie: doesn't work here.
[09:10] <valorie> Smurphy: what doesn't?
[09:11] <Smurphy> sudo dpkg configure -a
[09:11] <Smurphy> Need an action option it tells me.
[09:11] <valorie> I'm sorry, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:11] <valorie> sheesh
[09:11] <Smurphy> I however remember, that the system has change some stuff, specific NVidia files -> in the Xsetup etc.
[09:12] <Smurphy> came back empty.
[09:12] <valorie> ok, there is nothing to configure
[09:12] <Smurphy> Checking to revert the Xsetup stuff, if I remember what it was.
[09:12] <soee> Smurphy: you ar eusing nvidia driver ?
[09:13] <soee> dpkg-reconfigure -a
[09:13] <Smurphy> No. That's the point. Plain intel.
[09:13] <Smurphy> But X won't start up since las upgrade
[09:13] <valorie> gads
[09:13] <valorie> I need to clear my brain-cache
[09:13] <valorie> thanks, soee
[09:14] <Smurphy> :}
[09:15] <bdcomp> soee: valorie: So I need the reconfigure or configure command?
[09:18] <soee> Smurphy: after sddm upgrade ?
[09:18] <valorie> bdcomp: perhaps try `sudo apt-get install -f` (f is for fix) to see if you have broken packages, first
[09:19] <valorie> sometimes it is necessary to do that more than once
[09:19] <Smurphy> So - X works, tried: "xinit /usr/bin/xterm -- :1" and it starts a session.
[09:19] <valorie> then you can do the sudo dpkg --configure -a to see if any configuration remains to do
[09:19] <Smurphy> I rather suspect that it is the kwallet missing, that is failing.
[09:20] <Smurphy> sooe: yes
[09:20] <valorie> apt install -f also works
[09:20] <soee> Smurphy: yes there were changes in kwallet pam etc.
[09:22] <Smurphy> Yes, I noticed. Only pam-kwallet5 and pam-kwallet4 won't work together. Just force pam-kwallet4 to be installed next to it.
[09:23] <Smurphy> so - X is actually up, sddm is up too, but won't display a thing. What can I check ?
[09:23] <Smurphy> Wrong output ? How can I check which output is being used .
[09:24] <soee> you see only black screen? no cursor etc?
[09:24] <solvarr> The system tray trashes everytime I make changes to it?
[09:25] <solvarr> Does anyone else have problems with their system tray applet?
[09:25] <valorie> I hope you folks are filing bugs!
[09:25] <soee> solvarr: trashes? What Kubntu version / Plasma version ?
[09:25] <valorie> I had very few problems
[09:25] <Smurphy> No - I see the remnants of the boot up (system styl stuff: App started [OK] etc.
[09:25] <solvarr> kubuntu 15.10 with kde 5.4.3
[09:25] <Smurphy> valorie: I can't file bugs. No X ...
[09:25] <Smurphy> :} 15.10, plasma 5.5.3 I think
[09:26] <solvarr> actually when I make changes to the system tray the whole plasma crashes
[09:26] <soee> solvarr: did you upgraded to 5.5.3 today ?
[09:26] <solvarr> nope
[09:26] <solvarr> is it out today?
[09:26] <soee> it landed in backports as users report :)
[09:27] <soee> and if you said you are on 5.4.3, than you probably have backports enabled
[09:27] <Smurphy> so, a startx won't work. How can I force a failsafe session ?
[09:27] <solvarr> what does that mean if i have backports enabled?
[09:27] <Smurphy> soee: yes.
[09:27] <valorie> Smurphy: `ubuntu-bug packagename` in the terminal
[09:27] <soee> solvarr: kubuntu backports ppa
[09:28] <solvarr> yeah i do have that
[09:28] <Smurphy> valorie: Ok. That's nice. But how do I know which package is failing ?
[09:28] <solvarr> is it unstable?
[09:28] <Smurphy> I'll send it in for sddm
[09:28] <valorie> Smurphy: file against SDDM
[09:28] <Smurphy> doing it right now.
[09:28] <valorie> excellent
[09:29] <Smurphy> The problem cannot be reported. This is not an official ubuntu package ;D
[09:29] <Smurphy> *lol*
[09:29] <soee> solvarr: backports contain something that can't go through standard system updates. it contain for example newer Plasma version
[09:30] <valorie> um
[09:30] <solvarr> is it tested enough that it wouldn't be too much trouble for daily use?
[09:30] <valorie> !info sddm
[09:30] <valorie> oh, universe
[09:30] <valorie> pfff
[09:30] <valorie> well that sucks
[09:30] <soee> solvarr: yes i tested it. but some users have problems with it sometimes.
[09:31] <solvarr> i'll try that update now
[09:31] <solvarr> see if the problem goes away
[09:31] <Smurphy> well, I for instance can't start any X based session.
[09:31] <soee> valorie: we backported sddm, 0.13
[09:31] <valorie> Smurphy: can you install lightdm for instance, and purge sddm?
[09:32] <Smurphy> It would remove a whole bunch of data though. I can to that.
[09:32] <valorie> not ideal though
[09:32] <valorie> but geez
[09:32] <Smurphy> running.
[09:32] <valorie> soee: lightdm is the official, and will continue to be
[09:32] <valorie> because that's what unity wants
[09:32] <Smurphy> arglll...installing all kind of Gnome stuff...
[09:33] <valorie> :(
[09:33] <Smurphy> I use KDE because I hate gnome !
[09:33] <valorie> lightdm isn't really gnome
[09:33] <Smurphy> 12MBytes of Gnome Soundes !
[09:33] <valorie> that's gdm
[09:33] <Smurphy> yes, but it uses loads of libraries from Gnome.
[09:33] <valorie> which is one of the reasons we wanted sddm
[09:33] <solvarr> unity isn't too bad
[09:33] <valorie> libs aren't evil
[09:34] <Smurphy> Yeha, it won't integrate nicely with KDE though.
[09:34] <yofel> install lightdm-kde-greeter instead of lightdm
[09:34] <valorie> oops
[09:34] <yofel> installing lightdm will default to installing the GTK greeter :/
[09:34] <valorie> I didn't remember that
[09:34] <solvarr> i thought sddm is default in kubuntu?
[09:34] <Smurphy> lightdm starts, but I have no way to use a plasma/kde session with it.
[09:35] <yofel> solvarr: it is, but still fairly buggy. The best supported DM in ubuntu is lightdm still
[09:35] <valorie> Smurphy: did you see yofel's comment above?
[09:35] <valorie> I gave you incorrect advice
[09:35] <yofel> Smurphy: what's in ~/.xsession-errors ?
[09:35] <Smurphy> I am removing it ...
[09:35] <valorie> !info lightdm-kde-greeter
[09:35] <yofel> If you just *see* the login screen, then it's not a login manager issue
[09:35] <solvarr> so do you suggest i switch to lightdm or stay with sddm?
[09:36] <Smurphy> yofel: empty. Emptied it before. It does not find the default session it want to start.
[09:36] <Smurphy> I'll purge lightdm, and try to install sddm from scratch.
[09:36] <valorie> solvarr: if you are having no problem, stick with sddm
[09:36] <yofel> Smurphy: oh, so "plasma" isn't an option in the session selection?
[09:36] <valorie> it works well for 99.9% of us
[09:36] <Smurphy> Nope. It shows me no session at all.
[09:37] <yofel> Smurphy: plasma-workspace is installed?
[09:37] <soee> solvarr: do not switch to lightdm imo.
[09:37] <soee> solvarr: sddm is login manager that we use and support somehow
[09:37] <Smurphy> while doing the ugprade, it showed me some issues regarding the pam-kwallet stuff, so I defaulted in using the pam-kwallet5 over the 4.
[09:38] <Smurphy> yofel does not exist.
[09:38] <mikkle> I just updated to 5.5.3 via backports...I killed plasmashell and tried to restart it but nothing happens
[09:38] <Smurphy> or do you mean desktop ?
[09:38] <Smurphy> mikkle: See, I'm not the only one :)
[09:38] <mikkle> You too, Smurphy?
[09:38] <mikkle> If you restart, can you login to the desktop?
[09:38] <mikkle> without plasmashell?
[09:38] <yofel> no, I mean:
[09:38] <yofel> plasma-workspace:
[09:38] <yofel>  *** 4:5.5.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa1 0
[09:38] <yofel>         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/ wily/main amd64 Packages
[09:39] <Smurphy> sddm stays in a plack screen.
[09:39] <mikkle> crap
[09:39] <Smurphy> nope. It is not. It is apparently missing.
[09:39] <mikkle> someone wrote this on kubuntu's google+ "Due to a missing dependancy to libqt5xcbqpa5 my xsession broke after install this morning (could not connect to xcb QT5 in .xsession-errors)"
[09:39] <yofel> Smurphy: what does apt-cache policy plasma-workspace tell you?
[09:39] <Smurphy> it already is the newest version.
[09:40] <Smurphy> it's 4:5.5.3
[09:40] <Smurphy> It is installed. Only, sddm won't start.
[09:40] <Smurphy> I can't even log in, as there is no login screen.,
[09:41] <Smurphy> binding a strace to the sddm, it shows nothing. resuming interrupted call only
[09:41] <yofel> Smurphy: could you pastebin your /var/log/sddm.log please? pastebinit can do that from a command line
[09:42] <yofel> sddm forks a couple times I believe, so you would need to trace the right PID
[09:42] <Smurphy> X is running.
[09:42] <Smurphy> Can't. I'm onCLI only
[09:42] <Smurphy> but sddm log is easy -> empty
[09:42] <yofel> urgh
[09:42] <soee> yofel: -> [10:39] <mikkle> someone wrote this on kubuntu's google+ "Due to a missing dependancy to libqt5xcbqpa5 my xsession broke after install this morning (could not connect to xcb QT5 in .xsession-errors)"
[09:43] <Smurphy> yofel: I can attach to the PID while it is running.
[09:43] <valorie> !info pastebinit
[09:43] <valorie> Smurphy: ^^^
[09:43] <yofel> Smurphy: you might want to look for sddm-greeter
[09:43] <yofel> Smurphy: also see what soee just posted
[09:43] <lmp_> Hi there good folks - Kubuntu 15.10 just got a massive KDE update which uninstalled muon - what do you recommend to use instead?
[09:44] <Smurphy> greeter not running.
[09:44] <Smurphy> Just saw it.
[09:44] <Smurphy> lmp_: Don't install it just yet.... !
[09:44] <Smurphy> upgrade it just yet.
[09:44] <yofel> lmp_: for the time being, synaptics if you need a *package* manager, otherwise plasma discover
[09:44] <yofel> we'll try to bring muon back
[09:45] <Smurphy> yofel: sddm-greeter is not running. Checking if I find it.
[09:45] <Smurphy> dependencies on sddm-greeter seem to be there.
[09:46] <lmp_> Alright fair and square - thanks for the help! :)
[09:46] <yofel> Smurphy: is libqt5xcbqpa5 installed?
[09:47] <Smurphy> sudo apt-get install  libqt5xcbqpa5
[09:47] <Smurphy> Just did it - and I got the greeter again :)
[09:47] <Smurphy> No dependency handled that oine :)
[09:47] <yofel> libqt5gui5 recommends it, which doesn't seem to be enough
[09:47] <solvarr> ubuntu software center
[09:47] <yofel> thanks soee for the hint
[09:48] <Smurphy> But I still can't log in.
[09:48] <soee> yofel: are we able to fix it, so it will be installed ?
[09:48] <yofel> soee: that's easy enough
[09:50] <Smurphy> So - I can't get into a session. it tells me, can't change permission /dev/null in .xsession-errors.
[09:50] <yofel> is the file owned by root in any case? (wild guess)
[09:51] <Smurphy> /dev/null ? yes - always. Device file.
[09:52] <yofel> no, ~/.xsession-errors
[09:52] <Smurphy> inside that file, that's what I see.
[09:52] <Smurphy> I deleted that file now completely. Let's see what it says :D
[09:53] <yofel> oh, I misunderstood what you said ^^
[09:53] <Smurphy> it creates the .xsession-errors file, and puts this into it:
[09:53] <Smurphy> chmod: changing permissions of ■/dev/null■: Operation not permitted
[09:53] <Smurphy> and that's where the sddm desktop hangs.
[09:54] <Smurphy> I had deleted all .cache/plasma* before BTW.
[09:54] <yofel> ... wtf?
[09:54] <Smurphy> Hmmm. I have kwalletd/kwallet5 several times in the system etc. I think I'll reboot that box for a clean start.
[09:55] <Smurphy> Probably some process is still running, and doing that.
[09:55] <Smurphy> yofel: as I'm running of an SSD, I tend to redirect all log/debug/verbose chat stuff to /dev/null.
[09:55] <Smurphy> brb.
[09:59] <Smurphy> Hmmm... Ok, that was unfortunate. I restarted my Server instead of my Workstation.
[09:59] <Smurphy> still can't log into my plasma-session.
[10:00] <yofel> FWIW, error you get is most likely from line 66 in /etc/X11/Xsession
[10:00] <yofel> *the error
[10:00] <Smurphy> Ah. Ok. checking.
[10:01] <Smurphy> Indeed. There is aERRFILE pointing to /dev/null. Replaced it with .Xsession-errors
[10:02] <Smurphy> niiice. It is re-creating the cache content... Abeit slowly
[10:02] <Smurphy> Look and feel has change ... I like it.
[10:03] <Smurphy> Hmmm. Fonts are way smoother now, and UI is way smoother too (Movements etc.).
[10:03] <Smurphy> Nice ;)
[10:03] <Smurphy> Works...
[10:03] <Smurphy> I'm back int.
[10:04] <valorie> \o/
[10:04] <Smurphy> yofel: Shall you hang around in france once (North of Paris), let me know. The Wine is on me :D
[10:05] <yofel> I'll remember that ;)
[10:05] <yofel> why is the session stuff so delicate *-.-
[10:05] <Smurphy> And if it's in summer - you're welcome for my known Barbecues ! :D
[10:07] <Smurphy> Ok. Loging out, restoring the .xsession -> /dev/null stuff ...
[10:08] <Smurphy> back.
[10:10] <Smurphy> BTW -  has the akonadi backend communication protocol been changed yet ? From xml to the binary type ?
[10:10] <yofel> "yes", but I don't know in which version they did that
[10:10] <Smurphy> Nice. It seems to be faster (kmail at least).
[10:11] <soee> :)
[10:15] <mikkle> Smurphy: how did you get it to login? Could you log in by setting sddm to auto login?
[10:17] <mikkle> I just got an update for sddm...what a coincidence
[10:17] <mikkle> I see the font's changed to "Noto"
[10:17] <Smurphy> mikkle: I had to add a library which was not included yet apparently.
[10:17] <mikkle> which was that Smurphy?
[10:18] <Smurphy> Can't tell. Maybe one of the folks in this channel can tell you. I have mistakenly rebooted my server that holds this IRC session... no logs
[10:19] <mikkle> alright, thanks
[10:19] <bdcomp> valorie: Regarding the horisontal lines after update to 5.5.3 - it's pretty strange - if exiting the current session by Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and choosing the same user - everything great. In fact, now I am working this way. sudo apt-get install -f and sudo dpkg --configure -a done, without any results or errors. How should I fix the current state permanently, so next boot it will not show the horisontal lines.
[10:19] <soee> mikkle: try reboot after sddm update, also the package mentioned was libqt5xcbqpa5
[10:20] <bdcomp> Is it still relevant to the xsession file (I choose to keep the old)?
[10:20] <mikkle> soee- thanks...i have that installed
[10:20] <Smurphy> mikkle: It was libqt5xcbqpa5 :}
[10:20] <mikkle> cheers!
[10:20] <mikkle> I'm a bit afraid to restart since I need to use my computer for the day...shall i?
[10:21] <mikkle> still can't manually start plasmashell
[10:21] <mikkle> which is worrying
[10:22] <Smurphy> :} Worked here now.
[10:22] <mikkle> ok, here goes....
[10:23] <Smurphy> lol :)
[10:23] <dark-reader> Good morning
[10:24] <Smurphy> morning
[10:24] <dark-reader> I'm still trying to solve my problems with kde, would make sense removing kde and then reinstalling it again?
[10:25] <Smurphy> which problem ?
[10:25] <dark-reader> Smurphy, I only see black screen and the cursor
[10:25] <Smurphy> dark-reader: When did that start ?
[10:26] <Smurphy> latest sddm upgrade should fix that. Try it out.
[10:26] <dark-reader> I've asked for help here yesterday but I didn't fix it
[10:26] <dark-reader> I'm on 15.04
[10:27] <Smurphy> I remember. Sorry, Won't be able to help much today though.
[10:28] <hateball> dark-reader: well 15.04 is EOL in a few days, so you could start by upgrading to 15.10
[10:31] <dark-reader> hateball, should I type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[10:31] <hateball> dark-reader: to upgrade release, you use do-release-upgrade
[10:34] <bdcomp> While update to 5.5.3 I choosed to keep the old xsession file. How do I revert this now, as it's creates horisontal lines on the screen.
[10:41] <yofel> bdcomp: that should not create the lines, but beside the old file, there should be one called Xsession.dpkg-new with the new contents
[10:42] <dark-reader> hateball, thanks. I'm doing it right now
[10:44] <bdcomp> yofel: where the new file should be?
[10:44] <yofel> bdcomp: same place as the old one
[10:49] <bdcomp> yofel: locate xsession /etc/upstart-xsessions /etc/X11/Xsession.d/40x11-common_xsessionrc /home/boaz/.xsession-errors /home/boaz/.xsession-errors.old /usr/share/xsessions /usr/share/app-install/desktop/lxsession-default-apps:lxsession-default-apps.desktop /usr/share/upstart/sessions/xsession-init.conf /usr/share/xsessions/kodi.desktop /usr/share/xsessions/plasma.desktop /usr/share/xsessions/xbmc.desktop
[10:49] <bdcomp> yofel: it's pretty strange - if exiting the current session by Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and choosing the same user - everything great. In fact, now I am working this way. sudo apt-get install -f and sudo dpkg --configure -a done, without any results or errors. How should I fix the current state permanently, so next boot it will not show the horisontal lines.
[10:50] <yofel> bdcomp: I think you meant the one in /usr/share/sddm/scripts/
[10:50] <yofel> no idea, someone said that removing ~/.cache helped, so maybe your cache just got re-generated..
[10:56] <bdcomp> yofel: Should I try to backup the Xsession file in /usr/share/sddm/scripts/ and rename the Xsession.dpkg-dist to Xsession?
[10:57] <yofel> well, you can try. But the change shouldn't really do much..
[11:01] <bdcomp> So why the auto login is to screen with horisontal lines, while Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and choosing the same user - everything great? It's not relevant to Xsession?
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:24] <hazamonzo> BluesKaj: Howdy!
[12:25] <BluesKaj> hey hazamonzo
[12:28] <solvarr> fcitx is not working in some applications after today's upgrade?
[12:29] <soee> what is fcitx ? :)
[12:29] <solvarr> it's a chinese input method lol
[12:29] <soee> never seen/used that in my entire life :D
[12:29] <solvarr> i figured lol
[12:40] <cosec_> guys
[12:41] <cosec_> need help
[12:41] <cosec_> i installed kubuntu 15.10
[12:41] <cosec_> updated it
[12:41] <cosec_> just now
[12:41] <cosec_> and wifi stopped working
[12:41] <cosec_> :(
[12:41] <cosec_> what do i do ?
[12:41] <hateball> Was it working on 15.10 prior to updating?
[12:41] <cosec_> i am using lenovo y460
[12:41] <cosec_> yes
[12:41] <cosec_> i updated it using wifi
[12:41] <cosec_> :9
[12:41] <cosec_> :(
[12:42] <hateball> cosec_: You can reboot, hold shift and go into grub menu and pick an older kernel
[12:42] <hateball> Regressions happen
[12:42] <cosec_> won't booting an older kernel make the update pointless ?
[12:42] <soee> cosec_: is Wifi enabled ?
[12:43] <cosec_> and whats up with so many unverified packages while updating ?
[12:43] <soee> (in Network Manager)
[12:43] <cosec_> i do not understand
[12:43] <cosec_> yes wifi is enables
[12:43] <cosec_> my cell is working fine with wifi
[12:43] <hateball> Sounds to me like you've updated from a repo that hasnt been synched properly
[12:43] <cosec_> now connected with lan
[12:43] <soee> does it lists networks or list is emtpy ?
[12:43] <hateball> cosec_: It's not making it pointless. It's testing if there is a bug in a later kernel, so that can be reported
[12:43] <cosec_> all my networks are listed
[12:44] <soee> ok, so maybe some kwallet issue
[12:44] <cosec_> hateball: ok. please bare with me. newbie here
[12:44] <cosec_> *bear
[12:44] <cosec_> *ggenglish
[12:44] <cosec_> i reinstalled kwallet
[12:44] <soee> can you connect to any of them (listed there)
[12:44] <soee> ?
[12:44] <cosec_> i can  connect
[12:45] <cosec_> but no websites work
[12:45] <cosec_> lemme reboot and check
[12:45] <cosec_> thanks guys
[12:45] <cosec_> later kernel
[12:45] <cosec_> and kwallet
[12:45] <OerHeks> dns issue maybe, can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> ( = google.com
[12:46] <soee> he left :)
[12:47] <OerHeks> seen that now, my internet is slow, just found out ABBA split up.
[12:48] <hateball> :D
[12:48] <bdcomp> I am still looking for help about horizontal lines after update to Plasma 5.5.3 https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?69570-Graphic-problem-after-update-to-5-5-3 Any suggestion appreciated
[12:52] <soee> bdcomp: can you take a screenshot with this "effect" ?
[12:54] <solvarr> Why does my left arrow key stop working?
[12:54] <solvarr> The key is fine. I tested in virtual machine.
[12:54] <solvarr> The only problem is the cursor doesn't go left when I press it.
[12:55] <bdcomp> soee: http://pasteboard.co/UtIIj1U.jpg
[12:55] <cosec_> Guys
[12:55] <cosec_> I tried rebooting
[12:56] <solvarr> That  looks like an unhappy graphics driver to me.
[12:56] <cosec_> Holding shift doesn't load grub
[12:56] <cosec_> And WiFi still broken
[12:56] <cosec_> :(
[12:56] <cosec_> No cake at all
[12:57] <cosec_> Lenovo y460, WiFi not working after updating 15.10
[12:57] <cosec_> Any ideas?
[12:57] <soee> solvarr: but you have teh problem in virtual machine on live installation ?
[12:58] <OerHeks> cosec_, "wifi works, but you cannot get any page", looks like a DNS issue.
[12:58] <cosec_> DNS issue?
[12:58] <cosec_> What can I do?
[12:58] <solvarr> What do you mean by on live installation?
[12:58] <OerHeks> can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> ( = google.com )
[12:58] <soee> solvarr: sorry it was to bdcomp
[12:58] <OerHeks> or use the ip in your browser?
[12:58] <solvarr> lol ok
[12:58] <cosec_> Okay
[12:59] <soee> bdcomp: can you test one thing: rename .kde and .config to .kde_back and .config_bak (do it from different tty than the one where login manager is loaded)
[12:59] <soee> bdcomp: and than login as usual via loginmanager and see if anything chnages
[13:00] <soee> brb, food time
[13:02] <bdcomp> What is the location of .kde and .config? Renaming from live-cd is OK?
[13:02] <cosec_> Woot!!
[13:02] <cosec_> WiFi working now
[13:03] <cosec_> Jesus Christy
[13:03] <cosec_> It goes kaput and its okay now?
[13:03] <cosec_> Wtf
[13:03] <bdcomp> soee: What is the location of .kde and .config? Renaming from live-cd is OK?
[13:03] <cosec_> Thanks OerHeks
[13:05] <OerHeks> cosec_, wifi can sometimes take up to a minute to connect fully, depends on the trafic i guess
[13:07] <hateball> cosec_: run "dmesg" in a terminal to see output
[13:07] <hateball> might be it tries to auth many times before it succeeds
[13:07] <hateball> cosec_: what chipset is it? there maybe known issues
[13:08] <cosec_> Lenovo y460
[13:08] <cosec_> Wtf
[13:09] <cosec_> Its gone kaput again
[13:09] <cosec_> :@
[13:09] <cosec_> LAN working fine
[13:09] <hateball> cosec_: that'll be your computer model
[13:09] <cosec_> WiFi dead
[13:09] <hateball> cosec_: run lspci |grep Net
[13:09] <cosec_> Okok
[13:09] <hateball> It's probably realtek
[13:10] <BluesKaj> cosec_, broadcom wifi ?
[13:10] <cosec_> Network controller: Intel centrino wireless-n 1000
[13:11] <hateball> Weird, Intel usually works just great
[13:11] <hateball> cosec_: Is the network G, N or AC?
[13:11] <cosec_> Ethernet : broadcom corp netlink BCM57780 Gigabit
[13:11] <cosec_> Lemme check the band
[13:11] <hateball> At any rate, as you said it worked prior to upgrades you should really try rebooting and picking a previous kernel in grub menu
[13:13] <cosec_> Looks like its really unstable
[13:13] <cosec_> Holding shift during boot gave me no boot loader
[13:13] <cosec_> I can't see grub
[13:14] <cosec_> Usually installing Linux, I get to see grub menu
[13:14] <cosec_> Weird
[13:14] <hateball> cosec_: You do it right after/during BIOS?
[13:14] <hateball> I usually hammer shift instead of holding
[13:14] <cosec_> Lool
[13:14] <cosec_> Okok
[13:14] <bdcomp> soee: Do you mean Home/ .config and .kde directories?
[13:14] <cosec_> Its hammering time!!
[13:14] <OerHeks> yes, repeatedly pressing shift
[13:14] <hateball> cosec_: There's also the option of editing grub config to force it to always show
[13:15] <cosec_> How could I do that?
[13:18] <BluesKaj> probly UEFI troubles
[13:20] <hateball> oh they left again
[13:22] <HoloIRCUser4> Restarted router
[13:22] <HoloIRCUser4> Seems to be working now
[13:23] <cosec_> I have a question
[13:23] <cosec_> What are there so many unverified packages
[13:23] <cosec_> While updating ?
[13:23] <cosec_> I mean I updated with the updated that came with the os
[13:24] <cosec_> *updater
[13:24] <hateball> cosec_: the mirror you are using is perhaps not synched
[13:24] <hateball> cosec_: if you run "sudo apt-get update" do you get any errors?
[13:24] <cosec_> Lemme see
[13:25] <soee> bdcomp: yes
[13:26] <cosec_> Its working fine
[13:26] <cosec_> Seems to be downloading
[13:26] <cosec_> A lot of shit....
[13:26] <soee> !language
[13:27] <cosec_> Sorry sorry
[13:27] <cosec_> I thought that word was casual American english
[13:27] <OerHeks> cosec_, paste the output to https://paste.kde.org/ and let us see
[13:31] <HoloIRCUser4> Check
[13:32] <HoloIRCUser4> goo.gl/7xU8gD
[13:32] <cosec_> OerHeks...
[13:32] <cosec_> Can you see?
[13:33] <OerHeks> seems like no issue to me.
[13:33] <cosec_> Yep
[13:33] <cosec_> Oh well
[13:33] <cosec_> I hope I don't get any more errors
[13:33] <cosec_> Wahaha
[13:33] <OerHeks> i wonder why a google short url, another tracking ...
[13:34] <cosec_> Linux
[13:34] <cosec_> I tried kde pastebin
[13:34] <cosec_> Gave me that url
[13:34] <cosec_> Recently
[13:34] <cosec_> I tried
[13:34] <cosec_> Installing xubuntu-desktop
[13:34] <cosec_> Package in ubuntu
[13:35] <cosec_> Os broke
[13:35] <cosec_> Installed openbox in arch
[13:35] <cosec_> Loading it gave be black screen with a cursor
[13:36] <cosec_> Linux adventures
[13:36] <cosec_> Gone wrong xD
[13:36] <cosec_> I have to say, KDE is gorgeous
[13:37] <soee> does it work for you fine ?
[13:40] <BluesKaj> !enter |cosec_
[13:53] <solvarr> Left arrow key still isn't working...
[13:53] <solvarr> I've tried awesome and it works fine there.
[13:54] <solvarr> It just doesn't work in plasma.
[13:54] <BluesKaj> what's awesome?
[13:54] <BluesKaj> !awesome
[13:55] <BluesKaj> !info awesome
[13:55] <solvarr> yep... i figured it might also work in other desktop environments or window managers
[13:56] <BluesKaj> dumb overused name
[13:56] <solvarr> lol
[14:24] <bdcomp> soee: Renaming Home/ .config and .kde directories don't helped. Still boots to horizonal lines.
[14:28] <bdcomp> soee: I also tried to delete the default user from sddm.conf file in hope to manually login. The result is login screen with horizonal lines...
[14:29] <solvarr> what desktop environment do you log into?
[14:34] <soee> bdcomp: this sounds more like gpu driver issue or something :/
[14:36] <bdcomp> soee: It's crealrly related to the 5.5.3 and sddm update this morning. Where it's best to open a bug?
[14:44] <soee> bdcomp: so there was no such problem before plasma update ?
[14:45] <bdcomp> soee: No
[14:46] <soee> was there kernel update maybe by any chance ?
[14:49] <bdcomp> soee: No kernel, but sddm
[14:50] <soee> i'm not sure what it can be :/
[15:04] <anabain> (15.10) I need some help with kdeconnect. My Xiaomi 1S connected once fine but the second time I tried I couldn't. My kde desktop complained about some crash with kdeconnectd, I think. Can I restart something or delete some corrupt config file, or is it simply the nth kde bug?
[15:08] <bdcomp> soee: Please take a look https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1535763 What package should be affected? May I ask you to assign and/or subscribe anyone relevant?
[15:55] <Guite_> hi all
[15:55] <Guite_> Upgraded five machines with Wily to Plasma 5.5.3
[15:55] <Guite_> four work fine, but one notebook seems to have graphics broken
[15:55] <Guite_> changed from OpenGL 2.0 to 3.1 in compositor settings but this didn't make a difference
[15:56] <Guite_> after booting the machine graphics are totally broken (like if there would be a hardware issue)
[15:57] <Guite_> after somehow getting some kind of plasma restart done (e.g. by closing the notebook and opening it again) suddenly it works
[15:57] <Guite_> any idea how to fix this?
[15:58] <Guite_> GPU: [AMD/ATI] Trinity [Radeon HD 7520G]
[15:59] <Guite_> switching from EGL to XGL seems to solve the problem (although it is just a workaround)
[16:00] <Guite_> nope, the problem still occurs with XGL also
[16:01] <Guite_> switched back to GLX
[16:02] <hateball> Guite_: radeon or fglrx ?
[16:02] <hateball> or even amdgpu ?
[16:02]  * hateball knows next to nothing about AMD chipsets
[16:03] <Guite_> radeon
[16:05] <BluesKaj> Guite_, do you have xserver-xorg-video-radeon installed
[16:05] <BluesKaj> ?
[16:05] <Guite_> yes
[16:06] <Guite_> actually this wasn't a system update, only latest updates from kde backports with plasma 5.5.3 and newest frameworks
[16:07] <Guite_> the notebook having the problem is not heavily used (almost only for firefox and thunderbird)
[16:07] <Guite_> so a workaround decreasing graphic power would be enough
[16:08] <BluesKaj> what Guite_ the updates are quite numerous and are being uploaded to the repos quite often as well, suggest you update and upgrade again
[16:08] <Guite_> 1 update found -> sddm
[16:09] <Guite_> looks promising :)
[16:09] <Guite_> thanks for the hint
[16:10] <Guite_> yeah that fixed it
[16:10] <Guite_> thank you so much ^^
[16:10] <Guite_> have a nice day all
[16:11] <BluesKaj> ok Guite_ yw
[16:42] <Maxiride> I'm still testing the backports-landing stuff. I've just noticed today that if the screen is locked AND it's turned off by power management settings. When I turn on the screen (hitting a keyboard button\moving the mouse) the screen turns on as expected but I'm not prompted with the login screen.
[16:42] <Maxiride> For few seconds (usually no more than 10s) I see my desktop\open apps etc, luckly I'm not able to interact with them but they are visibile.. kinda of a privacy\secuirty issue.
[16:44] <hateball> I think mgraesslin said "wayland will fix that"
[16:45] <Maxiride> hateball: well isn't the lates wayland already implemented into the backports-landing?
[16:46] <Maxiride> I thought it contained new framework (which contains wayland) or did I misunderstood?
[16:46] <hateball> Maxiride: I don't know, I dont use backports. And I doubt it'll change your default from xorg to wayland without any config :)
[16:47] <Maxiride> uh, so I'm still running with xorg. Good to know =)
[16:57] <nicu> yo
[16:58] <BluesKaj> yo?
[16:58] <nicu> yo bitch 'sup
[17:02] <BluesKaj> nicu, speak English please, shtsspeak here.
[17:04] <stefano> !list
[18:57] <kristof_> need some help
[18:58] <kristof_> using kubuntu en not able to rwite in some programs on facebook aka games
[19:42] <dunasdan> Updated backports on wily today. calibre can no longer be installed with following error:
[19:43] <dunasdan> http://pastebin.com/qZJDMW9Z
[19:44] <dunasdan> Can something be done?
[19:46] <genii> dunasdan: The deb files for them will be in /var/cache/apt/archives  .. you can do: sudo dpkg -i --force-depends /var/cache/apt/archives/<calibre-deb-name-here>
[19:47] <genii> This will make it ignore the dependencies and install anyhow
[19:47] <Unit193> I'd check down the rabbit hole and see where that package came from.  Also,  apt list | grep installed,loc
[19:49] <dunasdan> well i installed that package myself. I guess it got deinstalled during upgrade.
[19:51] <dunasdan> I don't have the calibre package in /var/cache/apt/archives. But apt aborted before even beinning to download on the dependency check or not?
[19:53] <genii> Use apt-get download then, it will be in the dir where you run the command. Then you can do the sudo dpkg -i --force-depends  <deb-name>
[19:53] <BigFredy> hi all
[19:59] <dunasdan> thanks genii that did install it but it did not run afterwards. So I just went to the homepage and used the linux install script from there. Now it runs. Its just not the one provided in the official repos.
[20:00] <genii> dunasdan: When you do things like that, you should put apps from outside repositories in somewhere like /usr/local/bin or the individual's bin dir in /home/theirname/bin
[20:02] <dunasdan> Well since they provided a handy install one-liner. I just used that.
[20:21] <acher88> The calibre install script installs in /opt/calibre/ then symlinks the binaries to /usr/bin
[20:23] <acher88> has compiled in qt as well if I recall so should cop on system qt upgrade
[20:23] <genii> Shouldn't be trying to put symlinks there, especially if another binary of same name already exists
[20:25] <acher88> What it does on install: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14577482/
[20:27] <acher88> dont think I've used a distro proved packed for calibre for many years now
[23:54] <Ace> help
[23:54] <Ace> anyone?
[23:54] <Guest61171> hello
[23:55] <Guest61171> I Recently installed kubuntu and its buggy
[23:59] <valorie> pfff, ask and leave