[00:00] <KenBW2> Agrajag: i dont really know what that means but i'll take your word for it
[00:00] <LjL> KenBW2: it means that instead of relying on the libraries supplied by the system (which may be different versions and flavors depending on your distribution), they come with the libraries they need built right into the binary
[00:00] <dale> last question, how can I define 3/4 shortcuts for an application to come in to focus, like f1 -> firefox, f2 -> emacs, f -> shell
[00:00] <vocx> wallrus, in the options it says "ro", read-only, add "rw" read-writable instead.
[00:00] <LjL> KenBW2: that causes bloat, but makes it runnable on most linux systems
[00:01] <dale> pressing alt+tab is just annoying
[00:01] <KenBW2> LjL: does that mean it could run ion non-Linux OSs?
[00:02] <LjL> KenBW2: err, no, of course not
[00:02] <LjL> KenBW2: i said it makes it runnable on most *linux* systems
[00:02] <vocx> wallrus, http://pastebin.com/md15bbd4
[00:02] <KenBW2> LjL: well i thought "linux" was meaningless unless you were talking something low-level?
[00:02] <Agrajag> KenBW2: nope, it's still a linux ELF binary. You might be able to run it on something like a BSD system which has an ELF loader
[00:03] <Agrajag> but it's unlikely
[00:03] <LjL> KenBW2: you've heard too much nonsense from people who read stuff written by the FSF and don't understand it, then
[00:03] <Vincent91> Quick question: I'm resizing a partition on my Dell XPS M1530 using the GParted live CD. Any clue as to how long it might take? It've been resizing it (220 Gb to 80 Gb) for about 15 minutes now and I wonder if the application is still responding, if it's actually doing something.
[00:03] <KenBW2> LjL: no, i just dont know much :P
[00:03] <Elda> !ubotu Codec
[00:04] <KenBW2> Vincent91: depends how much data is there
[00:04] <f|uke> Vincent91, it could take about 3-6 hrs.
[00:04] <Elda> Meh.... anyone know how to go about getting information on the restricted codec package?  Just reinstalled so adding everything back in :>
[00:04] <Vincent91> About 55 Gb of info on there. 3-6 hrs? Never took that long back when I installed it on my other comp.
[00:04] <LjL> KenBW2, as long as you have the linux kernel, a suitable 3d driver for your video card, and a means of starting programs (a shell), then a binary that's got everything statically linked will do fine.
[00:04] <KenBW2> ubuntu-restriced-extras
[00:04] <blak`> Well thanks to all of you for all the information. I feel very enlightened on partitioning now!
[00:04] <LjL> KenBW2: but that doesn't mean it can work on a different kernel, as that kernel won't even have the slighest idea how to load that binary
[00:05] <Elda> KenBW2, thanks!
[00:05] <f|uke> Well. Maybe it depends on the format. I used it to resize a 150gig NTFS to 130 gig,.. and it took that long
[00:05] <vocx> !codecs > Elda
[00:05] <jvai> long tyme no see, channel!
[00:05] <KenBW2> LjL: im not a programmer so i don't really know how they work, but it makes sense
[00:05] <blak`> OK, new questions... How do I fstab this 6 gig ext3 primary partition to my /home
[00:05] <vocx> KenBW2, it's kinda cool to learn all this stuff as you go.
[00:06] <DasEi1>  http://pastebin.ca/1222217, LjL  >troll
[00:06] <morth_> Hello
[00:06] <KenBW2> vocx: yea that's what i love about Linux - i've learned so much more about computers since i switched
[00:06] <LjL> thanks DasEi1, though we really had no doubt about him to begin with
[00:06] <vassler> help me pls?!
[00:07] <DIL> KenBW2: i feel the same
[00:07] <f|uke> o.O
[00:07] <sjovan> hwy guys, i don't get a ip from my router. i think it could be a wpa issue. running a fresh 8.04 install and i don't really know what to ask for. can some one maby help me?
[00:07] <vassler> how can i remove bass from a mp3
[00:07] <vassler> ?
[00:07] <LjL> vassler, with an equalizer?
[00:07] <KenBW2> vassler: welcome to proprietary formats - what you see is what you get
[00:08] <LjL> KenBW2: well, it's not like you can remove the bass from a Vorbs file, either...
[00:08] <wallrus> nope vocx, i can't even read it.. or 'cd'.. is says i don't have permission
[00:08] <vocx> blak`, http://pastebin.com/m78873abd  instead of /dev/sda1 you could use the uuid
[00:08] <kansan> i have a microsoft mouse, and i would like have it (1) when i click left & right buttons at same time it pastes stuff in the register (2) when i click the middle button it pastes the register.  currently neither works.  microsfot wireless mouse
[00:08] <sjovan> vassler: use the eq...
[00:08] <blak`> vocx: looking now
[00:08] <VSpike> If I have recovered an ext3 fs with ddrescue, but I have a couple of holes (bad sectors), when I do an fsck will it tell me if those holes are in the middle of files?  IOTW, am I in danger of ending up with damaged files _without_being_aware_of_it_?
[00:08] <KenBW2> LjL: thats just a container (i think).  ive long loved the idea of an audio format you can pick bits out of
[00:08] <deathbyninja> does anyone have weird problems with the program windows turning transparent when you maximize them?
[00:08] <LjL> KenBW2: Ogg is a container, Vorbis is a lossy audio format
[00:08] <deathbyninja> only certain parts
[00:09] <KenBW2> LjL: oh yea. does my idea make sense btw?
[00:09] <webas> can anyone please tell how to unrar files not via terminal?
[00:09] <deathbyninja> download linrar
[00:09] <f|uke> deathbyninja, sounds like a compiz setting issue
[00:09] <LjL> KenBW2: of course it does, it's called multi-track audio, been used for decades
[00:09] <vocx> wallrus, did you read my last responses about changing read write? By the way, you do not need to reboot to test this. Just issue the corresponding "mount" commands. Also, instead of using /dev/sda1 use the UUID.
[00:09] <webas> linrar? :) okay i will try
[00:09] <matt__> I have an Ubuntu server running ssh-server. Right now I use a random port for it, but at school the port I am using is blocked, so I can't ssh into the server from school. I know that 20,21,possibly 22 are open. I have been told to never use the "default ports" for security reasons, but if my password it strong, I'll be ok won't i?
[00:09] <vocx> !uuid | wallrus
[00:09] <KenBW2> LjL: is that by definition Open Source?
[00:09] <Shadow__X> hi can someone help me java applets arent working in firefox
[00:10] <LjL> KenBW2: the current agreed-upon definitely of "open source" applies to software, not music
[00:10] <tj83> webas, also, package "rar" is in the repo.. but uncertain of the cli command
[00:10] <deathbyninja> fluke: explain
[00:10] <LjL> definition*
[00:10] <blak`> vocx: i'm still on the live boot of the cd do i need to mount my sda1?
[00:10] <KenBW2> LjL: music *is* software, as long as it's in digital format, right?
[00:10] <LjL> KenBW2: err... no
[00:10] <blak`> vocx: i don't get what you mean for me to do with this pastebin you showed me...?
[00:10] <jasuus> matt__ as long as your password is strong, and your data is not on russias list, youre fine
[00:10] <webas> synaptic and adept havent found anything :(
[00:10] <KenBW2> LjL: is a jpeg not software?
[00:10] <DIL> !audacity
[00:10] <matt__> jasuus: On Russia's list? Oh noes!
[00:10] <LjL> KenBW2: no
[00:11] <LjL> KenBW2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software
[00:11] <tj83> KenBW2, i think "data" would be more correct terminology
[00:11] <KenBW2> LjL: so whats a jpeg?
[00:11] <Agrajag> data
[00:11] <vocx> blak`, I thought you wanted to mount the new partition as /home, so you should put that in the file /etc/fstab   that way, upon reboot the kernel will mount the partitions and you are ready to go.
[00:11] <matt__> jasuus: What about "default" acconts? I log on as matt, so what other things should I perhaps secure?
[00:11] <KenBW2> tj83: fair enough
[00:11] <KenBW2> LjL: open format?
[00:11] <Shadow__X> can someone help me java doesnt work in firefox
[00:11] <blak`> vocx: i can't i don't think.. im on the live cd boot and I can't get to my /sda1 yet?
[00:12] <LjL> KenBW2: "a" jpeg is an digitally coded image, period
[00:12] <DIL> vassler: audacity
[00:12] <KenBW2> LjL: doesn't it have a parent term?
[00:12] <LjL> KenBW2: "JPEG" is a lossy compression format for natural image, encumbered by patents
[00:12] <blak`> vocx: i think i may need to install grub again first huh? since i know have winxp at the beginning of the drive?
[00:12] <LjL> KenBW2, "a" JPEG file is an image, it's not a format.
[00:13] <KenBW2> LjL: right im gonna shut up before i make even more of an ass of myself
[00:13] <vocx> blak`, well, yes you can have access to it immediately, just create a directory and mount it there.   You do not need exactly to reinstall grub because windows is at the beginning of the disc, since in fact grub is at the MBR a reserved space that is not accessible to normal programs or even OS.
[00:13] <morth_> what kind of FTP client do you suggest i use? anyone heard anything good about FileZilla?
[00:13] <jayde_drag0n> can you combine partitions without losing data?
[00:14] <LjL> KenBW2, if you take the divine comedy and put it into ASCII text, that doesn't turn the divine comedy into a "format". it's still the divine comedy, just digitally stored. it's stored *using* a format (ASCII) to encode it.
[00:14] <tj83> blak` lemme understand.. you want to mount /home with a separate partition? if you have trouble getting the answers you need i can try to help /join #seaphor if you like.
[00:14] <tj83> vocx, your welcome also if you would like to make a team effort of it.
[00:14] <jasuus> LjL: interesting format tho
[00:14] <edju> I have a file - /tmp/ssh-JrRTA24190/agent.24190, which cannot be read.  Is that file suspicious?  Anyone know what it's for?
[00:14] <LjL> jasuus: and horribly suited for storing the divine comedy, since it lacks the required accents
[00:15] <vocx> tj83, I saw him first an hour ago... who is helping who?
[00:15] <KenBW2> LjL: so what would you call what i was thinking?
[00:15] <blak`> Well I just moved my / (ubuntu is installed here) to the back of the drive and NTFS is in the front... i'm running ubuntu LIve cd right now...
[00:15] <LjL> KenBW2: what *were* you thinking?
[00:15] <tj83> vocx, i thought you were helping blak` , but he seems a bit confused :)
[00:15] <blak`> I guess I can try to mount in the live cd my moved /?
[00:15] <KenBW2> LjL: the pick-and-choose audio, er, file
[00:15] <LjL> KenBW2: a multi-track audio file
[00:16] <KenBW2> LjL: as a collective term?
[00:16] <blak`> it's ok guys, the more help the better
[00:16] <LjL> KenBW2: a multi-track audio format
[00:16] <vocx> tj83, I am, I was just messing with you. Please take him to your channel.
[00:16] <LjL> KenBW2: actually, many *existing* widely employed formats support multi-track perfectly fine
[00:16] <csilk> edju,  you shoul dbe able to safely delete that file
[00:16] <KenBW2> LjL: as in what do a jpeg, mp3, mpeg, doc etc have in common
[00:16] <LjL> KenBW2: any audio file that contains stereo audio has two tracks - one for right and one for left
[00:16] <csilk> *should be
[00:16] <blak`> Ok I mounted my ubuntu /... so i browse there and run the fstab commands?
[00:16] <LjL> KenBW2: they are formats.
[00:16] <tj83> blak`, please /join #seaphor
[00:16] <vocx> blak`, enter this room #seaphor
[00:17] <Velmont> INTREPID: Hello, -- programs keep crashing. However, when I press the report button in Apport - I finally get to launchpad, there I see many others have the same problem, and I give up. -- Is there a better way? A way of saying "me too" that's easy and will link my infrmation with the other bug? Is my info even uploaded to launchpad? Very often I just go on working when I see there are 10 other bug reports already.
[00:17] <blak`> ok
[00:17] <jayde_drag0n>  can you combine partitions without losing data?
[00:17] <LjL> KenBW2: wait, no, *jpeg, mp3, mpeg, doc* are formats. "A" jpeg, or "AN" mp3, etc, are files. data.
[00:17] <edju> csilk, Yoy know where it's from?  I don't use ssh.
[00:17] <LjL> KenBW2: not everything has a fancy name. data is just called, data.
[00:17] <KenBW2> LjL: i think i was after the formats definition
[00:17] <f|uke> What is the best method to get a remote desktop from my file server?
[00:17] <edju> *Yoy*You
[00:17] <csilk> edju,  if you've never used ssh then no, i have no idea where it came from
[00:17] <Delvien> Can i install FF 2.0 and FF 3.0 at the same time?
[00:18] <LjL> KenBW2: right, but "a" JPEG [image] is not a format. JPEG itself is a format.
[00:18] <KenBW2> LjL: so a file is a file, the way it's stored is a format
[00:18] <LjL> KenBW2: right
[00:18] <DIL> is a rose a hibiscus
[00:19] <f|uke> Meh. Semantics. Don't be a robot.
[00:19] <LjL> KenBW2: or if you want fancier terms, the "file" is "digitally encoded data", and the "format" is "a digital encoding"
[00:19] <webas> why it is so difficult in linux to unrar unzip copy files and folders with many files :|
[00:19] <KenBW2> LjL: ill stick with file and format for now i think :P
[00:19] <LjL> webas: it is?
[00:20] <KenBW2> LjL: btw - are you responsible for LjL-Temp? it's messing wth my tab-completion :P
[00:20] <f|uke> wouldn't the format be "a digital encoding method", and the file would be the encoding itself?
[00:20] <webas> teach me because im quite dissapointed making it via terminal..changing dirs..copying..unraring unziping
[00:20] <LjL> KenBW2: i am, yes
[00:20] <n00b> hey who was i talking to about compiz?
[00:20] <LjL> webas: well, *i* do it via the terminal, *because* it can be much faster than any other way
[00:20] <f|uke> n00b, are you ninja?
[00:21] <n00b> yes
[00:21] <Azhi_Dahaka> ok, i changed the default theme but synaptic refuses to look edecent
[00:21] <f|uke> then it was me :P but you're SOL. I've got to go to class
[00:21] <LjL> webas: if you aren't fond of that, i don't see what's wrong with file-roller (although being a KDE user, there might be a lot of things wrong with it that i don't know about)
[00:21] <n00b> alrighty
[00:21] <n00b> thats cool
[00:21] <f|uke> good luck
[00:22] <wallrus> yay! vocx.. up and running thanks =]
[00:22] <webas> well it is difficult for me :) first i need to go to dir where the file is..then to unrar..then try to copy all files in folders somewhere where i need root privilegies..its very slow process :) it took me 10min each file :D
[00:22] <LjL> webas: wait, you're copying files into some place that you need root privileges to access? *why*?
[00:22] <wallrus> i gotta stop being lazy and read the man files right =\
[00:22] <Logivision> I'm trying to install a windows program on Ubuntu. I have Wine installed. In the middle of the installation it pulls up "Network Neighbourhood" from windows and asks me to select the server from the network. This wont' work of course. Any way around it ?
[00:22] <webas> because thats there the games are :D
[00:23] <LjL> webas: and that's precisely, where? you do know you should never write outside of your home, /usr/local and /opt
[00:23] <LjL> and /etc
[00:23] <Shadow__X> i am having issues with java certain java applets dont work
[00:24] <webas> i know i must copy there :) ljl sadly
[00:24] <n00b> does anyone else know about compiz settings and why they might make windows go all crazy with sections disappearing and what not?
[00:24] <webas> and copy there everyday many times..and so on..
[00:24] <LjL> webas: anyway i don't see what makes it so slow. cd /directory/where/you/need/to/save ; sudo unrar x /path/and/file/to/the/rar/archive
[00:24] <LjL> webas: there, done. and obviously you can use Tab to complete the pathnames, which makes that pretty fat.
[00:24] <LjL> fast, even.
[00:25] <Logivision> anybody ?
[00:25] <LjL> webas: no, you "must" not. you're doing something wrong if you are.
[00:25] <KenBW2> anyone know why my game should look like this: http://4umbqw.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pFaKvYAm8Voq_I2-gHuDGVY4bFqHG7U0d3EpdUTr1Da0cT1WT6leqT28rCCUYTcpGBmKVvH8lW8s/FlightGear.png
[00:25] <harveyd> is there an easy way / possible to assign keyboard shortcuts to focus specific windows, like f2 -> emacs, f3 -> firefox etc
[00:25] <curtis> Logivision, what is the problem?
[00:25] <harveyd> alt+tab gets annoying
[00:25] <webas> i play quake3 .. now im right..am i not? :P
[00:25] <Logivision>  I'm trying to install a windows program on Ubuntu. I have Wine installed. In the middle of the installation it pulls up "Network Neighbourhood" from windows and asks me to select the server from the network. This wont' work of course. Any way around it ?
 because thats there the games are :D
[00:25] <Logivision> whoops extra line
[00:25] <webas> :D
[00:26] <LjL> webas: and why does playing quake3 involve writing to "forbidden" areas daily?
[00:26] <Agrajag> webas: if you're adding mods to quake3, shouldn't you be putting them in ~/.quake3?
[00:26] <webas> maps..helloo.. and i also create maps..so..much testing and stuff..
[00:26] <Agrajag> maps go in ~/.quake3
[00:26] <Agrajag> or ~/.q3a, I don't remember the exact directory name.
[00:26] <n00b> does anyone know what might cause windows to go all funky when i maximize them?
[00:27] <webas> still its in root dir..whole game is :|
[00:27] <Agrajag> no
[00:27] <bobertdos> n00b: Which drivers are you using for your video card?
[00:27] <Memo_> no it isn't
[00:27] <Agrajag> the game looks for maps and mods and stuff in your home directory
[00:27] <LjL> webas: no, of course not. "~" means your home.
[00:27] <VSpike> n00b: funky how?
[00:27] <n00b> bobertdos: radeon
[00:27] <n00b> vspike: it goes transparent to the desktop
[00:27] <bobertdos> n00b: Restricted or proprietary?
[00:28] <webas> hm but the game is there so i need to put maps there...
[00:28] <n00b> bobertdos: default from install. it's a 7000 so it doesn't have any proprietary drivers
[00:28] <Agrajag> webas: no
[00:28] <Memo_> hahah
[00:28] <LjL> webas: if you want to keep believing that, then keep beliving that. we're all telling you that you don't.
[00:28] <Agrajag> webas: I haven't played quake in years, but when I did I put maps, models, etc in my home directory
[00:28] <webas> how to see those .folders?
[00:28] <Memo_> he probably put the game in /
[00:28] <KenBW2> anyone know why my game should look like this: http://4umbqw.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pFaKvYAm8Voq_I2-gHuDGVY4bFqHG7U0d3EpdUTr1Da0cT1WT6leqT28rCCUYTcpGBmKVvH8lW8s/FlightGear.png
[00:29] <Agrajag> webas: ls -a
[00:29] <webas> ye root/usr/local/games/quake3/defrag - maps must be here :D
[00:29] <Agrajag> no, they must not.
[00:29] <bobertdos> n00b: Okay, so it has no restricted drivers, though you could probably still use proprietary ones (from AMD's site). At any rate, what is the output of glxinfo | grep direct (in the terminal)?
[00:29] <hotmonkeyluv> AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGG!!!! LOOK OUT FOR THE MONKEYS!!!!
[00:29] <Xyphy> Can anyone help me out... I can't type ~ in the Terminal but I can type it everywhere else.  I like ~.
[00:29] <Grenyaris> If I were to run out and buy a gigabit nic, which one would I buy for best speed and compatibility with Ubuntu (hardy)?
[00:30] <hotmonkeyluv> Grenyaris, every single nic that i've tried is 100% compatible in ubuntu. even one i found in a dumpster
[00:30] <bobertdos> webas: In a terminal, you can type ls -a [directory] to see all hidden files in the current directory or one you specify.
[00:30] <euxneks> hotmonkeyluv, that's so awesome
[00:30] <hotmonkeyluv> Grenyaris, I don't know about gigabit ones though
[00:30] <euxneks> hotmonkeyluv, dumpster diving for hardware
[00:30] <webas> ye i see but its quite not nice.. :D
[00:30] <hotmonkeyluv> euxneks, heck yeah
[00:30] <euxneks> I actually lol'd
[00:31] <Tu13es> anyone seeing lsusb hanging on 8.10?
[00:31] <hotmonkeyluv> euxneks, I go to dumpsters of huge corporations, just look in them, usually there are some goodies
[00:31] <jak__> hi to all
[00:31] <Azhi_Dahaka> so, nobody knows how to do it?
[00:31] <Xyphy> Anyone know any possible reasons why I cant type tilde in my terminal?
[00:31] <euxneks> hotmonkeyluv, no huge corporations where I live, too bad :P
[00:31] <dr_Willis> hotmonkeyluv,  ive had a few with 'buggy' drivers. :) but i agree over all.. every wired nic ive found has had drivers.
[00:31] <bobertdos> Xyphy: That is admittedly quite odd.
[00:31] <jak__> i've bought a tp-link tl wn321g wifi usb adapter
[00:31] <hotmonkeyluv> euxneks, like a hard drive in an old computer with a MASSIVE porn collection
[00:32] <Xyphy> Yeah no kidding right
[00:32] <n00b> bobertdos: No
[00:32] <Xyphy> It works everywhere else
[00:32] <LjL> webas: you can't see the . folders in Nautilus, the "." means precisely that they're hidden folders. you can see them in the shell, and you also should be able to point Nautilus to them if you type the name in.
[00:32] <Xyphy> ~ see
[00:32] <mophead> #hacklabto
[00:32] <mophead> oops
[00:32] <LjL> Xyphy: keyboard layout is?
[00:32] <hotmonkeyluv> dr_Willis, the funny thing is that I have 3 nics that don't work in windows at all, can't find drivers for the life of me, but work fine in ubuntu by default
[00:32] <Agrajag> You can also hit ctrl-H in nautilus to show hidden files
[00:32] <Azhi_Dahaka> press ctrl+h on nautilus to see hidden folders
[00:32] <jak__> i need to know the chipset name
[00:32] <KDesk> has some one tried amarok2 beta 2 ?
[00:32] <zr0gee> Hey all :p I've got Ubuntu (hardy) dual-booting with Vista atm. Is it possible to boot the 8.10 beta-installer and get it to upgrade my hardy, without messing up the dual-boot-config ?
[00:32] <jak__> how can i do it?
[00:33] <Xyphy> USA
[00:33] <rsc-> anyone use an Apple keyboard for an Ubuntu setup?
[00:33] <LjL> KDesk: better ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[00:33] <rsc-> I'm particularly interested in getting the ctrl-win-alt keys in order
[00:33] <Xyphy> LjL: its on a Lenovo X61... layout is USA
[00:33] <LjL> Xyphy: uhm, i don't remember where the tilde is in the US layout, but perhaps you have a 10x-keys layout set for the terminal with x being the wrong number
[00:33] <LjL> !locales | Xyphy, check
[00:33] <mophead> Hi everyone, have you ever heard of that thing where the toshiba laptop won't recognize the AC adapter?
[00:34] <Xyphy> Thanks all
[00:34] <bobertdos> n00b: then that is why the compiz effects malfunction. Direct rendering is required for that to work. You either need to do some Googling or you need to install the proprietary drivers for your card.
[00:34] <bobertdos> !binary | n00b
[00:34] <bobertdos> !ati | n00b
[00:34] <n00b> bobertdos: thank you
[00:35] <jjulian> hi how can i copy files with root and let the files not be changed to owner root? so that the groups and user who owns this, so the rights, stay how they were originally
[00:35] <k0de> ugh, avoid the ATI cards
[00:35] <KenBW2> LjL: i had a thought, i probably meant Free rather than Open Source?
[00:35] <webas> still unraring unziping copying pasting is hell of the time.. im a human being..not a bot :D im a human being :(
[00:35] <Agrajag> jjulian: cp -p should do it
[00:35] <jvai> i have ati on the thinkpad z60m.. works ok...
[00:36] <zr0gee> I guess beta-questions are a bit offtopic
[00:36] <jjulian> Agrajag, thanks
[00:36] <abe3k> hi guys, say I want to do a simple copy/paste task in nautilus but it requires root permission , isn't there any keyboard combination that'll let me enter the root password instead of going to the terminal and entering sudo ?
[00:36] <voglster> what the gnome printer manager in ubuntu called? how can i start it from cli?
[00:36] <dr_Willis> zr0gee,  thats whats #ubuntu+1 is for
[00:36] <zr0gee> dr_Willis, oh - thank you :)
[00:36] <almostautomated_> rsc- and Memo_: Thanks for the help! :D  I implemented the conf work around and it looks to be working OK now; much appreciated.  Have a great day!
[00:36] <bobertdos> k0de: I have had great success with mine actually. I can use the restricted and proprietary drivers equally well. ;)
[00:36] <dr_Willis> voglster,  ive installed/ran gnome-cups-manager befor
[00:37] <Shadow__X> anyone for java applet issues
[00:37] <jasuus> why is it that i after i chown to root, and set the appropriate permissions, i can click and drag a file to the trash?  It wont let me rm at a terminal tho
[00:38] <bobertdos> Shadow__X: Which flavor of Java are you using?
[00:38] <jasuus> i cant access the file without sudo ... but im able to put it in the trash
[00:38] <jasuus> stupid.
[00:38] <Shadow__X> sun-java 6
[00:38] <abe3k> Say I want to do a simple copy/paste task in nautilus but it requires root permission , isn't there any keyboard combination that'll let me enter the root password instead of going to the terminal and entering sudo ?
[00:38] <Memo_> almostautomated_, you'
[00:38] <bobertdos> Shadow__X: including the sun-java6-plugin?
[00:38] <Memo_> re welcome.
[00:38] <dr_Willis> abe3k,  not that ive seen.
[00:38] <curtis> anyone install need for speed carbon in ubuntu?
[00:38] <curtis> or cedega?
[00:38] <Shadow__X> that wont install i am running 64 bit
[00:39] <abe3k> dr_Willis : ok thanks
[00:39] <bobertdos> Shadow__X: ahh, yes
[00:39] <Shadow__X> what should i do bobertdos
[00:39] <bobertdos> !java64 | Shadow__X
[00:40] <sotec_prod> Best Windows game working in WINE?
[00:40] <jjulian> warcraft 3 ;)#
[00:40] <harveyd> there is no way this is impossible
[00:40] <abe3k> guys which room should I log into to get help about nautilus ?
[00:40] <harveyd> I want to press a keyboard shortcut, and have it focus an application
[00:41] <sotec_prod> besides WoW, or similar games.
[00:41] <Agrajag> abe3k: why are you trying to write to a folder owned by root?
[00:41] <harveyd> really doesnt seem to be possible, which sucks
[00:41] <Killer--Tux> help no sound in zsnes
[00:41] <KDesk> has some one tried amarok2 beta 2 ? I know somebody has.
[00:42] <histo> !anyone | KDesk
[00:42] <abe3k> agrajag : I have openttd and theres a new version online that I've downloaded so I want to overwrite my older files in the /usr/share/games folder
[00:42] <bobertdos> abe3k: If you want, you can run Nautilus with gksudo either in the terminal or in the run menu.
[00:42] <Xyphy> If I change my layout/keyboard model... will the changes take effect immediately?
[00:42] <KDesk> histo: I wat to know the expiriense with amarok 2 beta 2
[00:43] <bobertdos> abe3k: but be careful and do not under any circumstances open Nautilus with plain sudo.
[00:43] <Agrajag> abe3k: did you download and build the source, or did you get a package file?
[00:43] <abe3k> arajag : I downloaded the binaries
[00:43] <histo> !offtopic | KDesk
[00:43] <Agrajag> abe3k: so you have a .deb file, or what?
[00:44] <abe3k> bobertdos : why is that ?
[00:44] <Agrajag> Which package did you get?
[00:44] <abe3k> agrajag : no a zipped archive
[00:44] <bobertdos> !gksudo | abe3k
[00:44] <Xyphy> If I change my layout/keyboard model... will the changes take effect immediately? Or do I have to restart the x client?
[00:44] <Agrajag> It's a pretty bad idea to go messing around with your /usr directory
[00:45] <bobertdos> Xyphy: Eh, it depends
[00:45] <Agrajag> abe3k: Can't you just run the program from your home directory, or remove openttd using the package manager and then istall what you have in /opt or /usr/local?
[00:45] <KDesk> histo: I also dont want the next ubunut nor offtopic
[00:46] <Xyphy> bobertdos: Well I'm changing the layout (trial and error) to see if anything will help fix my tilde issue.  I want to know if I waste my time changing it and checking omitting any other steps.
[00:46] <sotec_prod> I don't know if this is off topic, but I have a need for this, so I'll ask here since it pertains to Ubuntu somewhat. Does anyone know of a GOOD tutorial for replacing XP with Vista without destroying my Ubuntu setup? Same disk, different partitions. Current Ubuntu.
[00:46] <tj111> i had to do a partial-upgrade in intrepid to get today's updates and its been hanging on "Processing triggers for man-db" for about 30 minutes.  Should I just let it keep going, is it ok to kill the process, or what?
[00:46] <abe3k> agrajag : I can run it from my home folder but then I'll be having two version on my ubuntu , one old version which is installed and one unzipped version which I have to navigate to get to
[00:47] <abe3k> arajag : I just want to overwrite my older files with ease
[00:47] <Agrajag> abe3k: so uninstall the one you have, and install the one you downloaded to /usr/local/games
[00:47] <dr_Willis> sotec_prod,  you will need to restore the grub loader, after installing the other os's. Windows also wants to be on the 'first' partition of the drive in most cases.
[00:47] <abe3k> agrajag : ok how do I install ?
[00:47] <bobertdos> Xyphy: Well, I've never had to change my layout, so I'm not certain. Offhand, I don't think a reinitializing X would be necessary.
[00:47] <Agrajag> /usr/local is for stuff not installed by the package manager
[00:47] <Agrajag> I don't know, are there instuctions in the archive?
[00:47] <Xyphy> bobertdos: Thanks.
[00:48] <Agrajag> a file named INSTALL or something similar?
[00:48] <abe3k> agrajag : its a zipped game , I just unzip it and run it, theres no install option
[00:48] <sotec_prod> that's where windows is right now.
[00:48] <Agrajag> abe3k: there is a readme file
[00:49] <abe3k> agrajag: but the one in the repositories installs an older version
[00:49] <deathbyninja> hrmm
[00:49] <Agrajag> abe3k: so uninstall that one, extract this one to /usr/local/games/openttd, and make a symlink from the openttd binary there to /usr/bin/openttd
[00:50] <sotec_prod> grr. Alright, I think I'll give the Vista install a shot. I REALLY want to drool all over dx10 :D
[00:51] <jasuus> vista?
[00:51] <dr_Willis> sotec_prod,  err.. so far from what ive seen DirectX 10 has been a total letdown
[00:51] <jasuus> what is vista
[00:51] <bird_flu> yo guys can anyone give us a hand solving an ndiswrapper problem?
[00:51] <sotec_prod> really?
[00:51] <buffalo> i think its sarcasm
[00:51] <bird_flu> and yes, dx10 is a letdown thusfar
[00:52] <sotec_prod> so the shading goodness and texture awesomeness is not...so...awesome or good?
[00:52] <Xyphy> bobertdos: Let me ask you one more question...   And watch the language.
[00:53] <Pici> !ot | PoisonArrow
[00:53] <neeto> I have a DHCP server set up on my computer, and although it gives out an IP address to a computer that wants to connect, it does not forward the DNS information to the client computer. WTF?
[00:53] <case^> PoisonArrow: yes coming to OT?
[00:53] <PoisonArrow> yes
[00:53] <bobertdos> Xyphy: Maybe your home directory isn't properly defined.....
[00:53] <Xyphy> Pici: Sorry... all of my ~ have been replaced with - in terminal
[00:53] <Xyphy> seriously
[00:53] <Xyphy> hmm
[00:54] <Agrajag> Xyphy: what font are you using?
[00:55] <Xyphy> Agrajag: monospace 12
[00:55] <Xyphy> Agrajag: Cant change it either...
[00:55] <Agrajag> you can't change it? Why not?
[00:55] <Xyphy> Dunno... greyed out
[00:55] <roukoun> hi all
[00:56] <NiKeCRu666> hello
[00:56] <Agrajag> Xyphy: Oh, you have "Use the system fixed width font" checked.
[00:56] <Agrajag> Uncheck that and you can set it to whatever you want
[00:56] <morth_> Hello Room
[00:56] <Agrajag> at least that's probably it
[00:56] <Xyphy> YES... thank you Agrajag
[00:56] <Xyphy> Problem fixed
[00:56] <Agrajag> but as far as I know monospace doesn't replace your ~ with -
[00:56] <Xyphy> dunno
[00:56] <Agrajag> so I doubt I've helped you much
[00:56] <Xyphy> Fixed now
[00:56] <Agrajag> oh
[00:56] <Xyphy> Im happy
[00:56] <Agrajag> ok
[00:57] <roukoun> im trying to launch frostwire in my pc but it gives the following error: http://pastebin.com/f100b0e6d... any help appreciated!!!
[00:57] <truebosko> Hi there, is there a way I can delete all directiories name `xx` within a directory, recursive and all?
[00:58] <dr_Willis> truebosko,  some scripting/bash/use of the find command.. can do so..  and no i dont know how off hand. Id have to lookit up/figrue it out. :)
[00:58] <morth_> Could anyone hold my hand with FTP?  im pretty new on it
[00:58] <Xyphy> Agrajag: What is system fixed width font?
[00:58] <dr_Willis> morth_,  why use ftp at all? ssh and sftp can do most transfers
[00:58] <Agrajag> It's just whatever default font ubuntu uses, not sure what the name is
[00:58] <NiKeCRu666> i need som help with my totem player, everytime i try to play a video my computer gets freezed, and i cant even push CTRL+ALT+1  or CRTL+ALT+backspace
[00:58] <KenBW2> can anyone suggest a good game for Ubuntu?
[00:59] <truebosko> dr_Willis: Good point, I'll tinker arund
[00:59] <NiKeCRu666> KenBW2, OPENARENA
[00:59] <dr_Willis> morth_,  i would read up on ssh, and scp then.. and tell the channel what you are trying to do exactly.
[01:00] <morth_> when your talking in read is that a PM?
[01:00] <morth_> red*
[01:00] <Pici> morth_: No, it just hilights to let you know someone has mentioned your na,e.
[01:00] <Pici> morth_: your name, sorry.
[01:00] <morth_> oh ok
[01:01] <Kattollikisd> how can I install the wbar in 8.04?
[01:01] <roukoun> im trying to launch frostwire in my pc but it gives the following error: http://pastebin.com/f100b0e6d... any help appreciated!!!
[01:02] <n00b> what is the default root password?
[01:02] <dr_Willis> n00b,  thjere is none
[01:02] <n00b> ok
[01:02] <Pici> !root | n00b
[01:03] <n00b> so i can't log in as root at all?
[01:03] <n00b> i can't su root?
[01:03] <Pici> n00b: read the link, use sudo.
[01:03] <n00b> ok i figured it out
[01:04] <roukoun> anyone?
[01:04] <the_dude> my ubuntu games dont have any sound, and yesterday they had. im using them alone, and my sound is ok, but they dont play;.....
[01:04] <dr_Willis> n00b,  the 2 are different things.. :) you can switch to root.. yes.
[01:04] <voraistos> Hi I want to compress some uncompressed videos *think extremely large files*, however I want a file compression system, like bz2, NOT video compression like mpg4 or similar... Is this worth it?
[01:04] <con-man> n00b: you could always type "su" in terminal if you dislike using sudo for every command
[01:05] <KenBW2> con-man: whats the difference?
[01:05] <con-man> n00b: in Ubuntu its "sudo su" I think
[01:05] <Agrajag> sudo -s
[01:05] <con-man> it makes it a root terminal
[01:05] <dr_Willis> voraistos,  is large = 1gb or 100gb?
[01:05] <n00b> Question: why would the ati drivers not be able to detect what version of Xfre86 i'm using
[01:05] <KenBW2> con-man: i mean between su and sudo
[01:05] <voraistos> more like 100gb
[01:05] <dr_Willis> do NOT use 'sudo su' :) its redundant.
[01:05] <voraistos> use "su -"
[01:05] <roukoun> im trying to launch frostwire in my pc but it gives the following error: http://pastebin.com/f100b0e6d... can anyone help me?
[01:06] <dr_Willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[01:06] <con-man> KenBW2: typing "su" in a terminal makes that terminal a root terminal, thus you no longer have to prefix commands with "sudo" when typing in that terminal
[01:06] <dr_Willis> voraistos,  su dosent work like that on ubuntu by default either
[01:06] <astrollama> histo, I'm trying to do a dist-upgrade, I have an ethernet connection of 100 Mb, but the download of the files isn't going faster than 20 kb (kilo bit, yes, bit)
[01:06] <astrollama> anyone have any tips?
[01:06] <Kattollikisd> how can I install the wbar in 8.04?
[01:06] <dr_Willis> 'The command sudo -i is the equivalent to the 'su -' command.
[01:07] <dr_Willis> !info wbar
[01:07] <punzada> roukoun, try going to into synpatic and reinstalling any of the java-6 packages you have
[01:07] <voraistos> dr_Willis: this gives a clean root login, a terminal in X wont be able to lauch graph apps with this, but you can't be more root than this :)
[01:07] <dr_Willis> Kattollikisd,  go download/install the souce i guess.
[01:07] <bobertdos> !find wbar
[01:07] <punzada> and/or make sure you have all of the normal ones checked off
[01:07] <thechitowncubs> I'm having trouble resizing my Vista partition, any advice?
[01:07] <dr_Willis> voraistos,  read that url.. it explains the issues with the different ways.. in short.. its best to use 'sudo -i' or sudo -s, for non gui apps.
[01:08] <dr_Willis> thechitowncubs,  i let vista resize its own partitions.. it does it faster then ubuntu does.
[01:08] <dystopia> what is a normal value for glxgears + gma 3100? i'm getting only 200
[01:08] <thechitowncubs> dr_Willis: how can you do that?
[01:08] <dang503> hey all
[01:08] <Kattollikisd> dr_Willis, Sorry I did not understand you...
[01:08] <dang503> wonder if someone could help with a small RoR issue and passenger
[01:08] <dr_Willis> thechitowncubs,  boot to vista..  check out the drive manager stuff.. it has a resize feature
[01:08] <voraistos> dr_Willis I agree sudo is the way to go... but on some machines the only user is root and I always su - to get a clean login. oh, well :P
[01:09] <dang503> i was following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RubyOnRails
[01:09] <IamSOG> is it possible to use a Debian Command or somethig to update my Grub in Xubuntu ?
[01:09] <dr_Willis> Kattollikisd,  if the package is not in the repos.. and you cant find a package for it.. then you compile it from source.
[01:09] <dang503> but when i try to load the rails app, i get a passenger error
[01:09] <thechitowncubs> dr_Willis: appreciate it
[01:09] <dang503> saying rails framework v 2.1.0 failed to load, with the error message: RubyGem version error: activesupport(2.1.1 not = 2.1.0)
[01:11] <IamSOG> is there a way to update my Grub under Xubuntu ?
[01:11] <Dr_Willis_> IamSOG,  clarify what you wish to do with it.. you can always edit the menu.lst all you want..
[01:11] <Explo> IamSOG: grub is the bootloader, y ou can edit it, but you cant really update it
[01:11] <voraistos> So, drWillis, know if compressing that stuff of mine to bz2 is worth a try ?
[01:12] <IamSOG> um... I see
[01:12] <voraistos> dr_Willis
[01:12] <IamSOG> I just need to boot a iso file, but my version can't seem to do it
[01:12] <Dr_Willis_> voraistos,  i doubt if you gain much.. try it and see on a single test case.
[01:12] <truebosko> What's the correct way to update my Python in Ubuntu?
[01:12] <IamSOG> my Grub version is 0.97ubuntu4 .... that sounds old  :D or is it ?
[01:12] <Dr_Willis_> I dident think 'booting an iso file' was doable in a general way - only with some specific kernel.tricks
[01:12] <comicinker> hi! a my problem: can I change the partitions name from /dev/sda2 -> /dev/sda4 with fdisk?
[01:12] <Explo> truebosko: try sudo apt-get update python
[01:13] <truebosko> Explo: No, update doesn't work like that
[01:13] <Dr_Willis_> comicinker,  you dont change partition 'names' like that..     why are you even trying to?
[01:13] <bobertdos> truebosko: sudo apt-get update (to make sure the mirrors are current) && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:14] <NiKeCRu666> please i need som help, how do i reinstall my gstreamer (video) drivers?
[01:14] <truebosko> bobertdos: I've odne an apt-get update, but it doesn't seem Python 2.6 is available in the sources yet, hmm
[01:14] <Swidgen> i've got a hdd with two hidden trash folders, and when i click the trash icon in the lower right of the screen and then do empty trash, one of the folders doesn't get emptied
[01:14] <comicinker> Dr_Willis_: I have been playing around with partition sizes. now gparted my former home partition (sda4) to sda2. I must revert that name
[01:15] <n00b> does utorrent have a linux port?
[01:15] <comicinker> understood?
[01:15] <Dr_Willis_> n00b,  it works with wine..
[01:15] <bobertdos> truebosko Oh, you're looking for 2.6 See, Ubuntu does not roll out updates mid-life unless they are security/bug fixes.
[01:15] <truebosko> bobertdos: Ah thank you, thatm akes sense
[01:15] <n00b> Dr_Willis_ what do you recommend for ubuntu?
[01:15] <Dr_Willis_> comicinker,  only way i can think to do that would be to add 2 parttions ahead of that partition.
[01:15] <n00b> azureus got way heavy in the past 2 years
[01:15] <Swidgen> n00b: i like rtorrent fwiw
[01:15] <Dr_Willis_> n00b,  use whatever you like. :)
[01:16] <Dr_Willis_> wine utorrent.exe works for me, ktorrent works.  others proberly work
[01:16] <roukoun> im trying to launch frostwire in my pc but it gives the following error: http://pastebin.com/f100b0e6d... can anyone help me?
[01:16] <voraistos> eeeek. My gf uses windows as well as ubuntu on her PC... the / is mounted on W automatically, and the drive is filled with weirdly named folders with dlls and setup.exes in them... any idea why microsoft tries to screw up a FS that is not even supported natively on their os ?
[01:16] <bobertdos> truebosko Of course, you can always compile if you wish.
[01:16] <comicinker> Dr_Willis_: in fdisk you can assert the number before creating a partition...
[01:16] <Dr_Willis_> roukoun, be sure you got the actual sun java installed.
[01:17] <truebosko> bobertdos: Yeah, my one issue with that is I have to remove python 2.5 package right? I'm just worried about future collission issues and such
[01:17] <Dr_Willis_> comicinker,  but for existing partitions...  im not sure thats a good thing to be playing with.
[01:17] <truebosko> I don't mind compiling from source, but with Ubuntu I fear doing that .. :-)
[01:17] <comicinker> ok
[01:17] <astrollama> anyone know how I can change my software sources to download from a brazilian server? I am trying to click on it, but it won't change!
[01:17] <jak__> how to remove a package installed on my hd from a livecd??
[01:17] <jak__> i think i have to use fakeroot
[01:17] <jak__> but i don't know how
[01:18] <genii> chroot
[01:18] <Swidgen> astrollama: add it to your sources.list maybe?
[01:18] <bobertdos> truebosko: Meh, trust me, it can't be any worse than Alpha/Beta testing :D
[01:18] <NiKeCRu666> please i need som help, how do i reinstall my gstreamer (video) drivers?
[01:18] <jak__> genii: ups :D
[01:18] <roukoun> Dr_Willis: look at the 28 and 30 lines of the pastebin... i have the 0.6 version installed and it requires 0.4!
[01:19] <truebosko> bobertdos: hehe
[01:19] <voraistos> apt-cache search gstreamer | grep gstreamer
[01:19] <astrollama> swidgen, thanks for the suggestion, ill try it out
[01:19] <Swidgen> astrollama: do so with caution because i'm not 100% sure :)
[01:19] <voraistos> copy/paste the result after typing apt-get install
[01:19] <voraistos> :)
[01:19] <Dr_Willis_> roukoun,  trying it now with my java.. lets see.. where did ya get frostwire from
[01:20] <Dr_Willis_> roukoun,  using frostwire just downloaded from the frostwire homepage, and  [java = 1.6.0_06] works here.
[01:21] <Dr_Willis_> roukoun,   java -version java version "1.6.0_06" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_06-b02)
[01:22] <NiKeCRu666> voraistos, this is what i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/55145/
[01:22] <b3lorixx> What program can burn a AVI file to a disc and play in all DVD players?
[01:22] <roukoun> Dr_Willis: actually it appeared since i uodated my ubuntu to 8.04... i have the same problem with vmware
[01:22] <NiKeCRu666> voraistos, was that about gstreamer for me?
[01:23] <voraistos> IT WAS FOR ANYONE WHO NEEDS TO INSTALL GSTREAMER, I GUESS IT WAS YOU :d
[01:23] <voraistos> ops
[01:23] <voraistos> sorry
[01:23] <voraistos> :D
[01:23] <NiKeCRu666> voraistos, haha :D thank you :D
[01:23] <NiKeCRu666> voraistos, i need to install gtreamer drivers
[01:23] <NiKeCRu666> o r whatever it mean, how can I reainstall them?
[01:24] <voraistos> thats the problem when you type stuff on the computer you're not looking at :D
[01:24] <voraistos> I'll take a look t your paste in a second
[01:24] <Prose> hey, I was wondering if hard drive failure was preceded by detectable symptoms, like they do with volcanoes
[01:24] <NiKeCRu666> voraistos, i worte this on console, apt-cache search gstreamer | grep gstreamer
[01:25] <voraistos> oh yes :d this is just a search :D
[01:25] <voglster> Dr_Willis_, hey question for you about cups printing... im trying to print to a lanier printer... I try and print everything seems fine however nothing comes from the printer... where can i check for errors?
[01:25] <Dr_Willis_> voglster,  /var/log should be some cups logs.
[01:25] <Azlx> problem here, im trying to transfer some files from my ipod, opening it like a flashdrive, to a folder that is locked, how do i go about giving myself admin abilities?
[01:25] <voraistos> the idea is to look for the packages, select the names, copy, then paste after typing apt-get install [paste the stuff here]
[01:25] <Dr_Willis_> voglster,  you can set cups to have verbvose logging for even more info also i belive
[01:26] <NiKeCRu666> uhmn
[01:26] <roukoun> Dr_Willis: any ideas?
[01:26] <Dr_Willis_> roukoun,  not really.  I never upgrade.. i always do clean istalls..
[01:26] <DasEi3>  Azlx:sudo chown <urUsername>   /path/to/ipodfolder/folder
[01:26] <voraistos> so, what i believe you need is all the gstreamer plugins. bad, ugly, etc :)
[01:26] <roukoun> Dr_Willis: ok...
[01:26] <Dr_Willis_> bbl
[01:26] <spiritssight> Do you goes know how "RAGE 128 PRO AGP" does with ubuntu?
[01:27] <NiKeCRu666> voraistos, cuz i have problems with my Totem player, every time i start playing a video, my machine gets freezed and stop responding
[01:27] <DasEi3> spiritssight:which exact model ? 9200,  9800...
[01:27] <voraistos> hmm
[01:27] <android6011> what are the cons of using wubi to install ubuntu rather than a normal install and making a dual boot system?
[01:28] <amason_> android6011: NTFS
[01:28] <voraistos> have you paid a look to the multimedia selector in gnome ?
[01:28] <android6011> amason_: does it really affect ubuntu that much though?
[01:28] <NiKeCRu666> multimedia selector???
[01:28] <Prose> in any case, besides fsck and badblocks, anything else I should be running to check hard drive health ?
[01:28] <b3lorixx> What program can burn a AVI file to a disc and play in all DVD players?
[01:28] <gauch0> i need to assign to pidgin a "rule" on connect...
[01:28] <voraistos> (and, what happened between "the video works" and "the video crashes the machine" ?)
[01:28] <amason_> android6011: NTFs is pretty crap :)
[01:29] <NiKeCRu666> voraistos, no, i dont think so, how do i do that?
[01:29] <spiritssight> I don't know, the person that told me the specs does not know much about hte system, it looks they copyed from windows what the stuff was but not all the information
[01:29] <android6011> amason_: what is the recommended filesystem? ext3?
[01:29] <voraistos> It should be in the system>preferences menu
[01:29] <spiritssight> if this makes any differents it says 4xTMDS
[01:29] <amason_> android6011: well basically you will run EXT3 on top of NTFS if i am not mistaken
[01:29] <amason_> so you have  the overhead of 2 filesystems
[01:29] <DasEi3> !who|spiritssight:
[01:29] <jvai> b3lorixx, look @ DeVeDe to convert .avi media into .iso then burn the .iso to dvd disc
[01:29] <taget> not really a ubuntu ? but anyone havea feed other than fox the the presidential debates tonight ?
[01:30] <voraistos> if it is not, then it is probably being hidden by default, so you need to edit the menus *well, tick a box :) )
[01:30] <Azlx> DasEi3 you rock!!!! :D thanks a ton.
[01:30] <bugaloo> does anybody use ubuntu-eee (for asus eeePC)? I'd like to know what is the correct keyboard layout on ubunto for eeepc.
[01:30] <android6011> amason_: oh i see. but what if you do a normal install, is ext3 the better of the file systems?
[01:30] <dft> hello, when I select an emerald theme it doesn't take effect
[01:30] <b3lorixx> jvai: can that ISO be played as a movie in DVD players
[01:30] <ryans> Hello, I have a strange issue going on with y laptop. When I am running off battery power and using my wireless card and running flash in firefox my laptop freezes.
[01:30] <DasEi3> spiritssight:so you're not sitting in front of that machine /can't reach it ?
[01:30] <dft> metacity themes work fine
[01:30] <ryans> *with my
[01:30] <dft> and I have advanced desktop effects running
[01:30] <amason_> android6011: ext3 is fine, i use reiser but if your just starting out it doesn't make much different. Basically WUBI is fine ,but it has its limitations
[01:30] <solidturtle> hey everyone, i'm having dificulties getting my wacom intous 3 pad to work with ubuntu
[01:30] <DasEi3> Azlx: like rocking on, np
[01:30] <spiritssight> !tab
[01:31] <jvai> b3lorixx,  yes, the iso will be ok, just be mindful of + or - discs
[01:31] <android6011> amason_: ya i typically use reiserfs too. im not really starting out i was just wondering what those wubi limiations were
[01:31] <amason_> android6011: as long as you understand a wubi install will be slower, and you are subject to the limitations of windows and NTFS its fine
[01:31] <Ryan52> will apport-cli send an email? or does it use some other method?
[01:31] <ryans> Hello, I have a strange issue going on with y laptop. When I am running off battery power and using my wireless card and running flash in firefox my laptop freezes.
[01:31] <voglster> im trying to print to an ip printer that is PS compatible... its setup in cups correctly ppd right from linuxprinting... cups reports print job successful... yet the printer doesnt print anything... anyone have any ideas?
[01:32] <spiritssight> DasEi3: No I don't have the system, I have to make a decition if I want it or not, I don't want to take it if its not going to be good to run ubuntu on
[01:32] <voraistos> ryans, don't use flash then. and get a proper wireless card (<unless you already have one :D )
[01:33] <DasEi3> spiritssight:liitle hard to determine: the radeon's below 9500 won't do the propitary drivers, but the standard out-of the box drivers do 'em all
[01:33] <ryans> That's the lamest help I've ever heard.
[01:33] <FFEMTcJ> Ryan52: it compiles a crash report in /var/crash
[01:33] <ryans> And what's a "proper" wireless card?
[01:33] <solidturtle> i'm trying to install my wacom pad but i can't save the xorg.conf file when i add in the lines for the wacom pad
[01:33] <voraistos> flash for linux sucks even more than for windows, and there is nothing we can do about it. Also web browsers tend to crash easily for some reason.
[01:33] <Ryan52> woah. your like everywhere!
[01:34] <mitnick> server irc.fullnetwork.org
[01:34] <ryans> It freezes the whole system,.
[01:34] <Ryan52> FFEMTcJ: okay, and what does it do with this report?
[01:34] <DasEi3> solidturtle:use sudo gedit
[01:34] <volrath> hey, anyone here using the 8.10 beta?
[01:34] <DasEi3> !ibex
[01:34] <voglster> spiritssight, if you are wondering about a radeon 9000 ish.. i have a laptop with one... works out of the box but the ATI drivers dont.. only iddue i have is I cant get the damn svideo out working (yet ;-))
[01:34] <voglster> issue*
[01:34] <volrath> yah, Ibex, is anyone useing it?
[01:34] <solidturtle> DasEi3: ok, i'll try that, thanks
[01:34] <ryans> Using 8.04 still.
[01:35] <volrath> becuase I decided to try out the Ibex beta, and everything works great, except when I try to play a video file, movie player and VLC just close
[01:35] <spiritssight> Ok, thanks
[01:35] <spiritssight> DasEi3: ok thanks for yiour help\]
[01:36] <DasEi3> np
[01:36] <Pici> volrath: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid/8.10 support/discussion.
[01:36] <dft> I've installed emerald and the engine but the imported themes aren't taking effect, any ideas what's up?
[01:36] <NiKeCRu666> voraistos, i dont know what you were refering to =/
[01:36] <voraistos> ryans, update, upgrade, use a different OS, fill bug reports, learn about computer insecurity and hack adobe.
[01:36] <ryans> Ok, you aren't helpful.
[01:37] <voraistos> NiKeCRu666: if you cannot see the entry in the menu, the you need to edit the menus *right click on the menu and select edit)
[01:37] <ryans> Anyone else wanna try and help with this issue?
[01:37] <Dragonbite> what's the issue? (just got here)
[01:37] <voglster> ryans, whats the issue
[01:37] <ryans> Big block coming up
[01:38] <ryans> Hello, I have a strange issue going on with y laptop. When I am running off battery power and using my wireless card and running flash in firefox my laptop freezes.
[01:38] <ryans> Thank you text cache.
[01:38] <Dragonbite> totally non-responsive? even after a while?
[01:38] <voglster> ryans, complete lockup? as in have to yank the batt/hold power button for 5 seconds? or just a pause then back up and running
[01:39] <voraistos> NikeCRu666: found it ?
[01:39] <ryans> Complete lockup as in have to reboot.
[01:39] <voglster> ryans, no clue ;-)
[01:39] <CaptainMorgan> my screen scrambles when I close the lid of my laptop... almost like it wants to go to screensaver - I go to reopen it and I hit a button trying to clear the mess but nothing happens... I have to reboot every time...
[01:40] <Dragonbite> wonder if it is part of your powersetting turning down your CPU too low for Flash to continue?
[01:40] <Rave1_> ryans  a lotof laptopsgoto apower saving mode  on battery dropping CPU down somewhat
[01:40] <voglster> ryans, have you tried different versions of flash? theres a free one and a non free one...
[01:40] <PoisonArrow> Ok, I have a script that I want to run on startup and in that script it contains the "sudo" command. Is that going to want my password when its run or will it be fine? Also, where do I put the script to run on startup thanks
[01:40] <ryans> I've already turned acpi off and uninstalled the powernowd progrqam.
[01:41] <Hoffer> hi, i am trying to boot Ubuntu using Wubi on my XPS M1730 and i think my hard drive is the problem
[01:41] <voglster> shudder... wubi
[01:41] <Hoffer> yea... i know
[01:41] <genii> voglster: Exactly, yes
[01:41] <Pidgin> wats ubuntu written in/
[01:41] <dr_Willis> PoisonArrow,  it will also depend on what command you are trying to run, You may want to use gksu instead
[01:41] <genii> Pidgin: C
[01:41] <CaptainMorgan> my screen scrambles when I close the lid of my laptop... almost like it wants to go to screensaver - I go to reopen it and I hit a button trying to clear the mess but nothing happens... I have to reboot every time...
[01:41] <DasEi3>  PoisonArrow: you would have to put a request for the pw and then give it into the script // you can use !bum or rc.local to start it at boot
[01:41] <voraistos> read the logs and file a bug report. or pastebin here see if there is a flash/firefox/acpi guru around. As i said before, flash is crap, and this extremely cpu-intensive onsense tends to crash firefox on big systems, so with less power it will only makes things worse (even though it shouldn't)
[01:41] <DasEi3> !bum
[01:41] <voglster> Pidgin, mostly C
[01:41] <genii> Pidgin: For the most part
[01:42] <PoisonArrow> dr_Willis, I see. What is the difference between the two
[01:42] <CaptainMorgan> my visual effects are set to None and in the Screensaver and power settings I have them set to "Blank Screen"
[01:42] <dr_Willis> PoisonArrow,  one is for gui apps.
[01:42] <dr_Willis> !gksu | PoisonArrow
[01:42] <Skky> quick question - if I wanted to turn off eth0/eth1 permamently, is there a command I could use or do I have to modify the interfaces file?
[01:42] <CaptainMorgan> yet it appears to want to find a screensaver for some reason...
[01:42] <CaptainMorgan> or that scrambly mess
[01:42] <Hoffer> voglster: it shouldn't be a problem tho, i think the problem is with ubuntu...
[01:43] <DasEi3> Skky: sudo ifdown ethX
[01:43] <Azlx> how do i modify the color of my name in chat?
[01:43] <PoisonArrow> dr_Willis, I's not for a graphical program, its for my wireless driver
[01:43] <spiritssight> Any one know if "Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter(LNE100TX v4)" would work
[01:43] <ryans> Well I don't think it's written to a log.
[01:43] <DasEi3> Azlx: pidgin ?
[01:43] <dr_Willis> PoisonArrow,  tell the channel exactly WHAT is is you are trying to run then.. rc.local may be the best place for it
[01:43] <voglster> Hoffer, whats your issue
[01:43] <Skky> DasEi3: and that will keep it turned off even through restarts until I turn it back on?
[01:43] <Azlx> yeah, pidgin
[01:43] <ryans> System freeze means it wont beable to do a thing.
[01:44] <ryans> I've tried everything to.
[01:44] <ryans> If there is a log, where would it be?
[01:44] <DasEi3> Skky: no, no over restart
[01:44] <dr_Willis> logs are normally in /var/log
[01:44] <ryans> I'll give it a gander.
[01:44] <Hoffer> my issue is that I try and run Ubuntu using Wubi and when i select Ubuntu it starts to load and then takes me to this command line prompt kinda thing
[01:44] <voglster> ryans, have you tried different veriosns of flash? is it only with flash?... dont open youtube when on bettery? :-P
[01:44] <Skky> DasEi3: is there a command to keep it off over restart?
[01:44] <PoisonArrow> Well, Im trying to run a hacked version of my rtl8187b driver for my wireless card because it is not supported. So I put it into a script that loads the drivers, sets the essid and password, and starts the dhcp command to get an I.P. and in the process I need to use the sudo command
[01:44] <DasEi3> Azlx: pidgin>preferences>plugins-list, there you can find it
[01:44] <ircbuddy> What resolution is best for displaying the login screen? im on 1024X something and it doesnt display everything
[01:44] <dr_Willis> Hoffer,  says  login: or somting like that?
[01:45] <Azlx> k thx again
[01:45] <voglster> Hoffer, whats the prompt
[01:45] <Hoffer> no it doesn't get that far
[01:45] <pdlnhrd> i tried to install the propritary ati drivers and now when i reboot i X can't start up and drops me to a login screen does anyone know the command to reset the drivers to the origial so i can get X to start... i have two radeon 4850 with two monitors..
[01:45] <DasEi3> Skky: you would either have to use a script or choose another way to disable it permantly
[01:45] <dr_Willis> ircbuddy,  the res shouldnt matter muyc.. unless you are using some weird gdm theme.  1024xXXX should work fine.
[01:45] <voraistos> ryans: there should be some X logs, and definitely some kernel logs. If the system hangs, the kernel has something to do in it. It could very well be related to some proprietary wireless driver that messes up the system, and once flash kicks in, crashes it for good.
[01:45] <luisp797__> anyone know how to configure vncserver I installed the package and rebooted but I can't vnc into the pc please help
[01:45] <Skky> DasEi3: editing the interfaces file?
[01:45] <ircbuddy> dr_Willis:  its not doing something righ then
[01:46] <Magdin77> help register
[01:46] <dr_Willis> luisp797_,  which vncserver did you install?  i normally install vnc4server, and i ssh in, then run the vncserver command. vnc normally does NOT auto-startup as other 'services' do
[01:46] <genii> !register | Magdin77
[01:46] <DasEi3> Skky: comment it, yes should work
[01:46] <CaptainMorgan> anyone ?
[01:46] <dr_Willis> luisp797_,  you can set up vnc do to that.. but thats not the 'standard' way to use it
[01:47] <Hoffer1> sorry i am back
[01:47] <Hoffer1> got disconnected for some reason
[01:47] <luisp797__> how do i start vnc server>
[01:48] <ircbuddy> dr_Willis:  what do i do
[01:48] <dr_Willis> luisp797_,  'vncserver'
[01:48] <gingyu1> 好多人啊
[01:48] <fuzzypig> I have two computers connected to each other by a single ethernet cable. How do I network them?
[01:48] <ryans> Yep nothing label firefox
[01:48] <dr_Willis> ircbuddy,  no idea. Ive not had the issue you could try some other gdm themes.
[01:48] <ryans> *lebeled
[01:48] <Hoffer1> vogsler: i can't remember what the prompt was
[01:48] <Pici> !zh | gingyu1
[01:48] <ryans> >.<;
[01:48] <dr_Willis> fuzzypig,  it is a peer-peer cable? or you using gigibit nic's ?
[01:49] <ircbuddy> dr_Willis:  ok il try one. one sec
[01:49] <fuzzypig> It's two NICs connected to each other by a cable.
[01:49] <fuzzypig> Will that work?
[01:49] <DasEi3>  fuzzypig:patch cable ? share internet ? see :
[01:49] <MRcheese> !d
[01:49] <MRcheese> !C
[01:49] <DasEi3> !nfs
[01:49] <MRcheese> 1C++
[01:49] <ryans> And it looks like acpi is still running, lovely.
[01:49] <voraistos> fuzzypig: is your cable twisted, if it is not (just like standard cables you use with your routers), then it won't work.
[01:49] <ircbuddy> dr_Willis: nope nothing.,
[01:49] <MRcheese> !C++
[01:49] <FloodBot2> MRcheese: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:49] <Pici> MRcheese: What are you trying to do?
[01:49] <tylrd> fuzzypig--> depends if your nic card has an autosense, if it does not, get a switch or a hub in between them
[01:50] <DasEi3>  fuzzypig:  patch cable ?
[01:50] <MRcheese> Pici: programming languages D,C,C++
[01:50] <DasEi3>  tylrd:even autosense needs a patch for direct link
[01:50] <Pici> MRcheese: Try their channels: #d , ##C and ##C++
[01:51] <Hoffer1> hi, i am trying to boot Ubuntu using Wubi on my XPS M1730 and i think my hard drive is the problem, i know Wubi is a problem for some of you, but i don't think thats the problem, i think Ubuntu won't run with my hard drive
[01:51] <tylrd> DasEi3--> they will work if the nic autosense the tx and rx and will adjust accordingly
[01:51] <fuzzypig> I don't know what a patch cable is.
[01:51] <genii> Interesting that C is a ## channel and not official
[01:51] <fuzzypig> It's a cat5 cable.
[01:51] <fuzzypig> A standard ethernet cable.
[01:51] <tylrd> Hoffer1--> you run windows then click on wubi.exe to install
[01:51] <dr_Willis> fuzzypig,  you can just connect a normal cable that way.
[01:51] <Hoffer1> i did that
[01:52] <fuzzypig> I think it's twisted though.
[01:52] <dr_Willis> fuzzypig,  you must use a hub/router/switch, or a crossover/patch cable.. OR use gigibit network cards
[01:52] <Hoffer1> tylrd:the problem is when i try and boot Ubuntu
[01:52] <fuzzypig> I have a switch.
[01:52] <DasEi3> fuzzypig:  if you hold the two plugs next to each other, are colors of wires same on botch=no patch cable   , different=patch
[01:52] <dr_Willis> fuzzypig,  plug both pc's into the switch then.. set both up with static ips,   see if they can ping each other.. if so.. they are networked.
[01:52] <tylrd> Hoffer1--> what happens when you boot ubuntu?
[01:53] <voraistos> dr_Willis I knew it :P twisted just didnt seem right, crossover... right :D /me tries to remember
[01:53] <DasEi3>  tylrd:that would only work on gigabit-cards
[01:53] <dr_Willis> voraistos,  'twisted pair' means the wires in the cable twist around. for better shielding.. I think
[01:53] <Hoffer1> tylrd: it starts to work but then it takes me to this sort of command prompt
[01:53] <tylrd> DasEi3--> incorrect, there are 10/100Mbps nic cards that can do autosense
[01:53] <ircbuddy> Anyone ever had a problem with bad screen resolution at login
[01:53] <Hoffer1> tylrd: i can't remember what it was called
[01:53] <Hoffer1> tylrd: some safe bug something or other
[01:54] <tylrd> Hoffer1--> at boot did you get to select which os to boot from?
[01:54] <fuzzypig> problem with that: the second 'computer' is a print server which is being problematic. It's the size of my fist, and the only way to configure a static IP is to connect to it first.
[01:55] <Hoffer1> tylrd: yes i chose to boot Ubuntu
[01:55] <voraistos> dr_Willis: yes I actually know that, but in crossover cables, you need to invert some of them, leading to twisted wrists :D
[01:55] <Oko2> Is this a techincal support for Ubuntu
[01:55] <Hoffer1> oko2: yes
[01:55] <Pici> Oko2: Yes.
[01:55] <Elda> ys
[01:55] <Elda> *Yes
[01:55] <Hoffer1> lol
[01:55] <Oko2> Good
[01:55] <voraistos> this is geek support, even better than technical support :)
[01:55] <Elda> Indee
[01:55] <tylrd> Hoffer1--> if it didnt work, try to boot to your xp again and do a re-double click the wubi.exe
[01:55] <Elda> d
[01:55] <Oko2> I do not nedone
[01:56] <Oko2> The trafic is incredible?
[01:56] <luisp797_>  i started the vnc4server but I can't remote in any ideas?
[01:56] <Hoffer1> tylrd: i have vista....*cry**shame*
[01:56] <Elda> I dualboot vista too, don't worry :P
[01:56] <hvgotcodes> How can i decrease how fast my load cycle count increases without using hddparm?
[01:56] <DasEi3>  tylrd:autosense means figuring half/full duplex , 10/100 mps, never saw a card that can
[01:56] <Elda> But Im slowly moving to sole Kubuntu dependancy :D
[01:56] <Oko2> I have lost:j #ubunutu
[01:56] <dr_Willis> voraistos,  ;)
[01:56] <tylrd> Hoffer1--> that should work too, i dont have vista so i have not tested that
[01:56] <Pici> Oko2: This is #ubuntu, do you have a support question?
[01:57] <dr_Willis> luisp797_,  you must edit the .vnc/xstartup to run a window manager thats installed on the system.. check the logs in .vnc also..
[01:57] <Hoffer1> tylrd: so you want me to try and reinstall wubi?
[01:57] <fuzzypig> Do I have to configure a static IP to connect to the switch?
[01:57] <fuzzypig> It's a DYNEX 10BASE-T Ethernet Hub
[01:57] <ryans> Hmmm, wonder if 8.10 would work better.
[01:57] <Hoffer1> tylrd: but it was already a legit fresh install of wubi
[01:57] <dr_Willis> luisp797_,  be sure to quit/rerun the vncserver,  after editing that file.. you can accidnetly start 2+ vncservers by mistake.. also use the ip# to connect.. often the hostname wont work.. ie;   vncviewer <IP_ADDRESS>:1
[01:57] <tylrd> Hoffer1--> why not, its not that overly difficult
[01:58] <fuzzypig> Oops, disconnected
[01:58] <tylrd> Hoffer1--> perhaps it did not install correclty the first time
[01:58] <dr_Willis>  10BASE-T? isent that the old coax type?
[01:58] <ryans> Oh did you need more info on what version of linux, etc, etc?
[01:58] <DasEi3>  fuzzypig:a hub is not a switch
[01:58] <Fallenou> hi i have problems with a webcam under ubuntu, i use "Hercules dualpix hd" usb webcam, which is recognized when i plug it in, i have latest 2.6.27 kernel with EasyCam2 tools and ov534 driver, when i launch gstreamer-properties and i click on "Video" and i test my /dev/video0 with v4l2 it show "snow"
[01:58] <genii> dr_Willis: 10base2
[01:58] <luisp797_> where do I find those files?
[01:58] <dr_Willis> genii,  :) ok.. old-skool
[01:58] <Fallenou> but the little light on the webcam brights
[01:58] <fuzzypig> Ok, that's unfortunate. Does that mean I can't connect to it?
[01:58] <Fallenou> so it communicates with the cam
[01:59] <Pici> Fallenou: If you're using Intrepid, the proper channel is #ubuntu+1 for support/discussion.
[01:59] <Fallenou> ok thx
[01:59] <hvgotcodes> How can i decrease how fast my load cycle count increases without using hddparm?
[01:59] <Skky> question - i commented out my "auto eth1" entry in interfaces file, restarted, but eth1 is still starting
[01:59] <Fallenou> it doesn't work better on hardy i would say Pici :p
[02:00] <fuzzypig> I have a hub to work with. How can I connect them?
[02:01] <voraistos> dr_Willis lol 10base-T are the twisted pair cables :D
[02:01] <tylrd> DasEi3--> i mistakenly called the mdi/mdix feature autosense..but you get the idea..
[02:01] <dr_Willis> voraistos,  ive got box's of that old stuff... ive yet to toss out.. :)
[02:01] <DasEi3>  fuzzypig:you need two standard rj45 cables (non-patch)  and then can connect
[02:01] <dr_Willis> pc -- network cable --> hub <----- cable --- pc.
[02:02] <`Matir> Anyone know how I could disable apport for a single session to debug a program?  Otherwise, my core files disappear :)
[02:02] <voraistos> hey, I own an 8086 dr_Willis
[02:02] <dr_Willis> voraistos,  i got a timex sinclare 1000 :)
[02:02] <DasEi3>  tylrd:never saw this unless in gigabit
[02:02] <droopsta915> my computer is having sleep problems, what can i do to set fix sleep problems
[02:02] <genii> dr_Willis: I used to have one of those 99-4a
[02:02] <fuzzypig> Both are connected to the hub via a cat5 cable.
[02:02] <tylrd> DasEi3--> i have used them in 10/100mbps
[02:02] <luisp797_> I fixed my virtual box problem by reloading the application
[02:03] <dr_Willis> fuzzypig, set both up with static ips,   see if they can ping each other.. if so.. they are networked.
[02:03] <voraistos> dr_willis I have a timex wrist movement-powered watch :D
[02:03] <DasEi3>  tylrd:so I believe it now but recommend patch for direct links :P
[02:03] <hendrixski> what's the difference between Ram and Virtual Ram?
[02:03] <fuzzypig> I don't know the ip of the hub.
[02:03] <dr_Willis> voraistos,  an actual wrist watch! :) old-skool
[02:03] <dr_Willis> fuzzypig,  hubs dont have ip's
[02:04] <dr_Willis> 'routers' can have ip's
[02:04] <DasEi3> fuzzzypig: the hub has no own ip
[02:04] <fuzzypig> Then what is the gateway address?
[02:04] <fuzzypig> Don't I need that?
[02:04] <luisp797_> that's the router
[02:04] <dr_Willis> fuzzypig,  depends..  on what you are doing.. if its JUSt 2 machines.. theres not much of a gateway/network...
[02:04] <DasEi3> fuzzzypig: first, give the two network card attached to the hub ip's in the same range
[02:04] <fuzzypig> There is no router connected.
[02:05] <genii> if twp machines connected to each other, their own ip is the gateway
[02:05] <voraistos> dr_Willis it uses no electricity whatsoever, and i dont actually have to turn things around every morning for it to work :P I wished computers were based on that kind of technology, It's just so beautiful inside
[02:05] <fuzzypig> oh
[02:05] <dr_Willis> example ips... <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:05] <fuzzypig> But neither of the machines are connected, so neither of them have IPs
[02:05] <fuzzypig> There is no router.
[02:05] <dr_Willis> fuzzypig, set both up with static ips,   <--------------------------------- see if they can ping each other.. if so.. they are networked.
[02:06] <DasEi3> fuzzzypig: for example : <IP_ADDRESS> the one and <IP_ADDRESS>  the second, mask : <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:06] <voraistos> You assign them IPs, router, connection  and whatelse or not
[02:06] <paul_81> can someone help we with a problem in natilus?
[02:06] <dystopia> dr_Willis: maybe he has a firewall running blocking ports...
[02:06] <fuzzypig> No firewall.
[02:06] <fuzzypig> I just had no idea how a hub works.
[02:06] <dr_Willis> dystopia,  at this rate.. we will never know.,.. :)
[02:06] <dr_Willis> hub just switches around some wires.. so things are wired proplery
[02:07] <fuzzypig> We;ve hit a dead end though.
[02:07] <fuzzypig> The second machine is only capable of DHCP.
[02:07] <voraistos> hubs copy the data from one port to paste it on all the other ports. hubs plain suck, but they also are cheap.
[02:07] <fuzzypig> I have to connect to it to enable static IPs
[02:07] <fuzzypig> Because it's a usb print server.
[02:07] <dr_Willis> My USB print server ive had - i could set up staic
[02:08] <dr_Willis> fuzzypig,  install a dhcp server on the other box then is another thing ya could do
[02:08] <DasEi3>  fuzzypig:so make the other pc a dhcp-server
[02:08] <paul_81_> Can someone assist me with a Nautilus question (running ubuntu 8.04 64 bit)??
[02:08] <genii> fuzzypig: When no dhcp server is found, ip range usually defaults to 169.254.x.x range
[02:08] <dystopia> hehe
[02:08] <MRcheese> can we get sued by Microsoft for using c#?
[02:09] <voraistos> probably :D
[02:09] <dystopia> you can get sued for anything...
[02:09] <dr_Willis> You can get sued for doing somtning,, and not doing it,, and not doing it fast enough. :)
[02:09] <MRcheese> even for just typing this/
[02:09] <dystopia> MRcheese: YES!! BOO!!
[02:09] <voraistos> In fact, You used "Microsoft" without their expressed written consent, so you should leave the country while you still can :D
[02:09] <hendrixski> there's nothing to stop Microsoft for suing people using Mono... unless you believe their marketing department which said they promise they won't
[02:09] <fuzzypig> I'm installing ISC DHCP3
[02:10] <paul_81_> Can someone assist me with a Nautilus question (running ubuntu 8.04 64 bit)??
[02:10]  * dr_Willis sues dystopia  for pain and suffering.
[02:10] <fuzzypig> Hopefully it works out of the box.
[02:10] <MRcheese> trademark infringment just like saying ubuntu is a tm infringement
[02:10] <hvgotcodes> How can i decrease how fast my load cycle count increases without using hddparm?  anyway to slow down ext journaling or other options?
[02:10] <paul_81_> Is this a help channel if not can someone direct me to one?
[02:10] <MRcheese> hvgotcodes: Use JFS ext3 sucks
[02:10] <voraistos> mount it as ext2 :D
[02:11] <ailean> guys i need some urgent help in recovering a file. can anyone help?
[02:11] <MRcheese> ext3 writes to the journal every 5 secs
[02:11] <fuzzypig> ok, server is installed.
[02:11] <genii> fuzzypig:If dhcp server doesn't work out..you you can let both boxes timeout. Then use a netmask of <IP_ADDRESS> and something like nmap to find out what ip the hard-wired dhcp box got
[02:11] <hvgotcodes> MRcheese: yeah can we reconfigure that?
[02:11] <dystopia> paul_81_: this is a help channel
[02:11] <voraistos> you should be able to adjust this in the mount options
[02:11] <hvgotcodes> maybe every minute or 2 ?
[02:11] <MRcheese> there is a way but i forgot
[02:11] <fuzzypig> hm
[02:11] <voraistos> man page
[02:12] <paul_81_> dystopia could you assist me with a problem in Nautilus?
[02:12] <CaptJager> How can I dictate a size of a video convert when using ffmpeg -i input.avi output.flv in terminal
[02:12] <dystopia> paul_81_: ask your question and we'll do our best to help you :-)
[02:12] <Elda> Hurray!  The pizza hut people messed up on their order and somehow ended up cancelling it.  So after straightening it out we are getting free pizza \o/
[02:12] <Elda> Two Large pizzas xD
[02:12] <exonine> Hi, does anyone have any experience with the Asus eee and ubuntu?
[02:12] <RHSanborn> I have a phone as a modem plan with sprint, and a bluetooth enabled phone. Could anyone point me to a decent thread or tutorial for setting up basic bluetooth modem configs?
[02:12] <DasEi3> fuzzypig: the difference between a switch and a hub is mainly that the hub can't autom.  detrmine right pin-setting of cables and is more vulnerable to data-collision, a simple switch avoids those probs and is below 10 EUR
[02:12] <Elda> bah :< wrong chat sorry
[02:13] <genii> exonine: Perhaps the users in channel #eeepc
[02:13] <paul_81_> I have lost the ability to SHIFT+CLICK in nautilus, to select multiple files, is there a way to fix this (xorg.conf possibly)??
[02:13] <dystopia> ailean: there are several programs and even live cds for that but best is to stop r/w to the filesystem
[02:13] <exonine> genii: thanks =)
[02:13] <voraistos> Elda, ever tried the CLI client for pizzahutt online orders ?
[02:13] <dr_Willis> paul_81_,  i dont see how that would be a xorg setting. try with a new user.. see if it works for them..
[02:13] <ailean> dystopia, which program would you recommend?
[02:13] <Mike020> what's the directory to put Piding plugins in?
[02:13] <paul_81_> ...will do BRB
[02:13] <Mike020> Pidgin*
[02:14] <ircbuddy> Why does my login screen not fit the screen?  it it my resolution?   Its like its zoomed in and panned over to the top left. all i see is a input field.
[02:14] <voraistos> /usr/share/something
[02:14] <RonzO> ircbuddy, sounds like you may have to check yoru xorg.conf file. sounds like its defaulting to a higher resolution than it thinks your monitor is
[02:14] <voraistos> or there could be a plugin dir in your home.
[02:14] <jigp> hello:) I can connect to wifi but not lan...after I setup a static in lan, I can't connect...and when I dhcp - I can't connect also.how to restore my default lan dhcp?
[02:14] <DasEi3>  fuzzypig:also the counters of 10/100 mbit are maximum numbers, practically its about a third they do (some nics do better then other)
[02:15] <nickz327> flash videos seem unstable for me and can make firefox crash. I assume this is conflictions with pulse audio. Is this normal? any fixes?
[02:15] <paul_81_> Dr_willis: it still works with a different user...what's my next step to remedy this??
[02:15] <chooch> hey guys
[02:15] <DasEi3> !hi
[02:15] <jjulian> hi got a problem fsck fails cause of filesystem size is 8 blocks bigger then physical size. how can i repair that?
[02:15] <chooch> I got a strange problem
[02:15] <Skky> how do I turn off eth1 permemently?
[02:16] <fuzzypig_> the print server won't time out.
[02:16] <chooch> got ubuntu 8.04 and when I switched to xfce, I can't play streaming radio on firefox
[02:16] <RonzO> Skky, sudo ifconfig eth1 down
[02:16] <dystopia> ailean: depends on filesystem, personally, i'd mount my filesystem r/o, burn a recovery cd in different computer, and then use a GUI program or whatever is provided with that recovery cd
[02:16] <RonzO> Skky, that should keep it from starting. if not, add it as a startup script
[02:16] <danbh_intrepid> chooch: how did you switch?
[02:16] <voraistos> DasEi3 cheap realtek cards can do these speeds, however sending 12 mbps is rather cpu and hdd intensive, so some older machines will fail at the task.
[02:16] <paul_81_> Dr_willis / dystopia: it still works with a different user...what's my next step to remedy this??
[02:16] <ircbuddy> RonzO: ok im in the file waht do i look for
[02:16] <chooch> installed the package and choose xfce session when I login
[02:16] <fuzzypig_> The server needs to be configured before it can use static IP.
[02:16] <jigp> hello:) I can connect to wifi but not lan...after I setup a static in lan, I can't connect...and when I dhcp - I can't connect also.how to restore my default lan dhcp?
[02:17] <ailean> dystopia, ok so what recovery cd?
[02:17] <chooch> "Listen" play music fine
[02:17] <voraistos> DasEi3 i mean megaBytes per sec.
[02:17] <jjulian> hi got a problem fsck fails cause of filesystem size is 8 blocks bigger then physical size. how can i repair that?
[02:17] <RonzO> ircbuddy, look down toward the end of it. i would suggest to google modelines for your monitor, so it can have the correct resolution for it
[02:17] <Skky> RonzO: that turns it off until the next restart, when it comes back on
[02:17] <RonzO> ircbuddy, what is the native resolution for your monitor?
[02:17] <voraistos> rythmbox is also much better than it used to be.
[02:17] <RonzO> Skky, hold on a sec, let me get you a site
[02:17] <MRcheese> does ubuntus kernel have FULL ACCESS TO ALL HARDWARE I/OS AND MEMORY?
[02:18] <ircbuddy> RonzO: im not sure. its a widescreen by gateway
[02:18] <DasEi3> voraistos:I found that realtek and other cheapies are up to 40% slower then intel,hp,dlink and few othrers
[02:18] <RonzO> ircbuddy, go to system > prefferences > screen resolution. what is it running?
[02:18] <danbh_intrepid> MRcheese: why wouldnt it?
[02:18] <dystopia> ailean: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovery_Is_Possible but if you download a big file on the same filesystem the chance is that you already overwrite the data... the first thing to do is think like forenics: don't touch the filesystem or hdd anymore..
[02:19] <ircbuddy> RonzO: ive had to chage that. with sudo displayconfig-gtk
[02:19] <RonzO> Skky, http://www.neohide.com/automatic-start-up-hamachi-for-ubuntu-hardy-heron . when it says to make the script part, put "sudo ifconfig eth1 down" and follow the rest of the guide from there. its not the same...but it gives you the same idea
[02:19] <MRcheese> KERNEL MODE I MEANT
[02:19] <DasEi3> voraistos:think of a 10 mib hub switching cheap nics to that mode, the result  ...uuhm
[02:19] <danbh_intrepid> !caps > MRcheese
[02:19] <ailean> dystopia, i get that
[02:19] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: what do you suggest?
[02:19] <voraistos> DasEi3 i get more packet loss with them, but nothing alarming, and they do full speed as far as I know.
[02:19] <Skky> RonzO: thanks, i'll read through that
[02:19] <ircbuddy> RonzO: i get everything from 320X240 to 1600X XXXX
[02:19] <RonzO> Skky, yup yup
[02:19] <danbh_intrepid> chooch: I dunno, does it work in the other *buntu you were running?
[02:19] <ailean> dystopia, you've said it a few times now. which recovery tool would you use?
[02:19] <RonzO> ircbuddy, what monitor is it?
[02:20] <RonzO> ircbuddy, the model number i mean =)
[02:20] <DasEi3> voraistos:I found great differences in nfs and samba
[02:20] <afallenhope> is there an UPDATED version of wireshark? the one I have always crashes..
[02:20] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: worked with gnome before
[02:20] <ircbuddy> RonzO: Gateway LE 1963
[02:20] <ailean> dystopia, ok sorry
[02:20] <danbh_intrepid> chooch: does it work with gnome now?
[02:20] <dystopia> ailean: i'd do apt-cache search undel or apt-cache search recover and use one of those console utilities... or recovery is possible :-)
[02:20] <DasEi3> afallenhope: mine is doing fine
[02:20] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: maybe I need to change the sound mixer to something compatible with xfce?
[02:21] <droopsta915> I had a file on my desktop, now it's in my recent documents list, how can i restore it back to the desktop
[02:21] <nickz327> flash videos seem unstable for me and can make firefox crash. I assume this is conflictions with pulse audio. Is this normal? any fixes?
[02:21] <danbh_intrepid> !latest > afallenhope
[02:21] <afallenhope> DasEi3, in the filter type: data contains "yay"
[02:21] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: it's latest version of gnome, forgot the number
[02:21] <dystopia> paul_81_: i suppose its somewhere defined in gconf..
[02:21] <afallenhope> !backports.
[02:21] <danbh_intrepid> chooch: yes, but Im curious, does it work?
[02:21] <ailean> thanks dystopia i didn't realise what you meant :)
[02:21] <voraistos> nickz327: yes it is normal. The people from adobe programmed it this way.
[02:21] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: worked
[02:22] <dystopia> you're welcome!
[02:22] <nickz327> so having a crash like one out of 10 times is normal? no fixes?
[02:22] <danbh_intrepid> chooch: ok, so, does it work in gnome, thats my question
[02:22] <RonzO> ircbuddy, still looking for the native resolution
[02:22] <majik> hey does anyone have any idea why i have 10 apache2 proccess's running?
[02:22] <ircbuddy> RonzO: K Thanks
[02:22] <danbh_intrepid> chooch: I'm asking, assuming you still have gnome installed.  If Im wrong, let me know
[02:22] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: yes, last time I checked. the xubuntu is on my laptop and I gave it to a friend of mine
[02:23] <voraistos> nickz327, no no fixes. You could triy the latest builds of firefox though, since a plugin should theoretically NOT crash firefox.
[02:23] <RonzO> ircbuddy, are you sure thats your monitor? im not finding any info on the internet about it
[02:23] <danbh_intrepid> majik: I think thats just how apache works.  Each process can handle another connection
[02:24] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: I'll be able to the double check if we'll solve something else. VNC server is installed through synaptic but when starting the server, it just dissapeared
[02:24] <ircbuddy> RonzO: Got it at walmart. il get that page for you
[02:24] <chooch> and I could not connect the computer
[02:24] <RonzO> ircbuddy, that would help tons, lol  =)
[02:24] <chooch> I think it should ask for a password
[02:25] <voraistos> majik: if you dont want all these processes, you could try apache1
[02:26] <ircbuddy> http://windowsxp-privacy.net/?id=01502200020
[02:26] <Skky> RonzO: quick question - is there no way to do this through CLI or just editing a file?
[02:26] <ircbuddy> wo nvm
[02:26] <paul_81_> dystopia: nothing in gconf for nautilus relates to SHIFT+CLICK selection of files, any other ideas?
[02:26] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: what do you say?
[02:26] <ezzieyguywuf> if i'v lost my IRC password, is there any way to recover it?
[02:26] <ircbuddy> htf did that get into my notepag
[02:26] <ircbuddy> notepad*
[02:26] <RonzO> Skky, just adding a little script is honestly the easiest way to do it. only takes 2 minutes tops
[02:26] <ircbuddy> wow
[02:27] <ircbuddy> trying to copy a url from walmart dot com gives that
[02:27] <danbh_intrepid> chooch: well, it sounds like you aren't working at the problem computer, so I don't know what to say
[02:27] <Viking667> I've got a weird problem when I start up a OpenOffice.Org Base file, I get two messages both talking about a missing file:  /usr/lib/openoffice/share/basic/WebWizard/script.xlb/  and dialog.xlb/. I've looked up my install, and I don't even have a WebWizard directory... though I do have FormWizard and InstallWizard directories.
[02:27] <RonzO> ircbuddy, ZOMG my computer now has a virus! i must reinstall my ubuntu!!! =P
[02:27] <Viking667> Anything I can do?
[02:27] <dystopia> paul_81_: couldn't find it either.. maybe its a more generic setting, like metacity? you could maybe replace some parts of your homedir... (by moving them from .gconf to .gconf.bak -- for example) otherwise i have no idea...
[02:27] <Skky> RonzO: the problem is that I don't want to have to create a script for every computer i need to do this to
[02:28] <ircbuddy> thats freaking crazy
[02:28] <ircbuddy> il have to type by hand
[02:28] <DasEi3> Viking667: try reinstalling oo
[02:28] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: just help me with the vnc
[02:28] <ezzieyguywuf> anyone know how to recover a lost IRC password?
[02:28] <Viking667> reinstalling. Right.
[02:28] <ircbuddy> Http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5978900
[02:28] <tpw_rules> hi
[02:29] <genii> ezzieyguywuf: Maybe ask in #ubuntu-ops
[02:29] <voraistos> lol this link scanned my computer, found a broken registry and a highly crtical spyware problem in my internet explorer rofl
[02:29] <node357> ezzieyguywuf, /nickserv help sendpass
[02:29] <ezzieyguywuf> thanks
[02:29] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: what should I do in case that the vnc disappear after starting it? and I can't connect to the computer (no router)
[02:29] <Viking667> the filenames don't show up in openoffice.org-*.list under /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[02:29] <Viking667> ... so it's like the deb never even came with them.
[02:29] <voraistos> I have to file a bug report, right ?
[02:30] <danbh_intrepid> chooch: no idea, I've no experience with vnc
[02:31] <RonzO> Skky, you can try to do it in the configuration for the network connections, but it will take you the same amount of time to type "nano -w script" "sudo ifconfig eth1 down" and copy it
[02:31] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: do you know anything about the correct sound mixer for xfce? or anything should work?
[02:31] <puff> Hi,  i'm having run with rsync tonight.
[02:31] <DasEi3> Viking667: know how ?
[02:32] <RonzO> did ircbuddy sign off?
[02:32] <danbh_intrepid> chooch: all I know is how to remove gnome, or xfce.  They might be conflicting
[02:32] <kenshin_> Hey guys, I wanted to try Linux...and after attempting to install gentoo I thought I might go with something a bit easier. The only thing is, I have a Mac (OS X 10.4.11), so I want to put it on a 750gb external HD. I know that Mac uses an EFI bootloader- does Ubuntu support this?
[02:32] <Viking667> DasEi3: actually, no. I'm wondering if I missed an OOo package somehow.
[02:32] <DasEi3> RonzO: yes
[02:32] <lolmac> hello
[02:32] <kenshin_> Any good guides on getting started? I don't want to mess up my computer or the external hd
[02:32] <RonzO> i have his resolution, lol
[02:32] <lolmac> this new version of ubuntu
[02:32] <lolmac> 8.04
[02:32] <lolmac> in this new version
[02:32] <lolmac> can i run it on windows?
[02:32] <DasEi3> Viking667: open aterminal..
[02:32] <FloodBot2> lolmac: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:33] <Viking667> Actually, is there a way to find what deb those files would be in?
[02:33] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: How do I remove it? and if gnome use gdm, what xfce use?
[02:33] <Viking667> must be a apt-* command of some sort, surely
[02:33] <tpw_rules> kenshin_: why dont you try using boot camp?
[02:33] <DasEi3> Viking667:sudo apt-get remove --purge openoffice-org
[02:33] <RonzO> lolmac, you can use wubi to install it. it doesn't run inside of windows persay
[02:33] <danbh_intrepid> Viking667: does the file exist?
[02:33] <puff> Specifically, I'm trying to use rsync to copy data off a dying drive.  However, I'm trying to exclude a particular subdirectory that causes the drive to make odd clicking noises, using rsync --exclude=/media/disk-2/sub/directory/that/causes/problems
[02:34] <lolmac> This new version of ubuntu 8.04, can i run it like the live option, but inside windows? without interrupting the applications?
[02:34] <danbh_intrepid> !purexfce > chooch
[02:34] <DasEi3> Viking667:sudo apt-get install openoffice-org
[02:34] <kenshin_> Can't get bootcamp to work on my comp, I don't think 10.4 supports it as well as 10.5
[02:34] <Explo> lolmac: no
[02:34] <puff> However, it still appears to be trying to do something with theproblme directory, causing problems.
[02:34] <voraistos> kenshin_ as long as your computer can boot from USB, it should be able to boot anything from the usb disk
[02:34] <lolmac> Explo: but the cd
[02:34] <lolmac> says
[02:34] <RonzO> lolmac, but you can run it live without modifying the computer
[02:34] <morth_> What Program should i use for C?
[02:34] <Dr_willis_> !compile
[02:34] <voraistos> vim and gcc
[02:34] <kenshin_> Okay, so then it follows- how do I go about installing it on the external? Should I just put in the LiveCD and go from there?
[02:34] <RonzO> lolmac, windows and linux are different operating systems, and they don't interface the same way
[02:35] <Explo> lolmac: you can install using windows, but you cannot run both at the same time unless you use a virtual program like virtualbox
[02:35] <tpw_rules> puff: you might be able to use ddrescue
[02:35] <kenshin_> If my external HD is password protected would this make much of a difference?
[02:35] <lolmac> Explo: yes
[02:35] <tpw_rules> dont really know my way around it tho
[02:35] <RonzO> kenshin_, yup
[02:35] <Viking667> DasEi3: did _that_ already, but, does that file exist in a typical OpenOffice.org distro release?
[02:35] <Viking667> brb
[02:35] <kenshin_> Ah, okay then I'll remove the password from it.
[02:35] <puff> tpw_rules: Hrrm, maybe, but rsync appears to be working okay otherwise.
[02:35] <tpw_rules> morth_: if you are looking for an ide, i reccommend kdevelop
[02:35] <kenshin_> Okay, thanks for the help- I'm off to try and do this correctly.
[02:36] <lolmac> Explo: the original cd alone of ubuntu, it doesn't have the option to run like a virtual machine? without the need of a other software to virtualize it?
[02:36] <DasEi3> Viking667:not a particulary sure, but open office started on mine right of the box, so I guess so
[02:36] <voraistos> kenshin_ what do you mean by password protected ? you have some sort of hardware interface on it, or simple software encryption ?
[02:36] <tpw_rules> puff: yes, but i believe you would get a more complete backup
[02:36] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: it looks like this command remove all the standard programs... isn't it? what will happen then?
[02:36] <Explo> lolmac: no, there is an installer called wubi that allows you to install it using windows if you can't boot from the cd, but you have to install virtualbox and run it in there if you want to run both at the same time
[02:36] <puff> tpw_rules: I'd like to try that, if I can first finish the rsync backup...
[02:36] <paul_81_> dystopia: FYI it was a compiz setting I wasn't aware of under Grouping / Tabs, a command was bound to SHIFT+BUTTON1, I changed that and now it works again
[02:37] <danbh_intrepid> chooch: you will have xubuntu
[02:37] <voraistos> I am not sure you will be able to keep software encrypted on that disk with ubuntu. however since you seem to want to format it and you have cpu power, you could use the very hardcore encryption available for linux :D
[02:37] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: or maybe the xubuntu desktop will install everything back
[02:37] <paul_81_> Dystopia: thanks for leading me down the path
[02:37] <paul_81_> cheers
[02:37]  * RonzO props feet up
[02:37] <lolmac> Explo: ok
[02:37] <dystopia> paul_81_: cool :-) thanks for sharing the solution
[02:37] <lolmac> thanks
[02:38] <Viking667> DasEi3: can you see if those two filenames I mentioned are on your system?
[02:39] <DasEi3> Viking667:files again ?
[02:39] <Viking667> *sigh*
[02:39] <sd32> I have 4 desktops but it shows 8 desktops in the taskbar, any body know how to get to show the correct number of desktops?
[02:39] <Viking667>  /usr/lib/openoffice/share/basic/WebWizard/script.xlb/  and dialog.xlb/.
[02:39] <puff> Anybody see what's wrong here: http://rsync.pastebin.com/d4a0f2e56
[02:40] <RonzO> sd32, right click and remove one of the panels
[02:40] <hotrod_> hi
[02:40] <boosties> Can anyone help me?
[02:40] <di-sw> hi
[02:40] <RonzO> boosties, ask away
[02:40] <william> Anyone have the link talking about UUID?
[02:40] <danbh_intrepid> Viking667: I dont have those
[02:40] <danbh_intrepid> !UUID > william
[02:40] <Explo> boosties: whats the problem?
[02:41] <voraistos> dr_Willis: gotta go. This "discussion" we had about old computers made me realize how great the old days were to find a very unique machine we'd keep all our lives. nowadays... there isn't much choice, thanks to you-know-who :)
[02:41] <danbh_intrepid> !blkid > william
[02:41] <boosties> I downloaded python and cant seem to find the correct file
[02:41] <sd32> RonzO: thanks
[02:41] <RonzO> np
[02:41] <boosties> anyone help me with this?
[02:41] <ezzieyguywuf> boossties: what do you mean the correct file?
[02:41] <Viking667> hm. Then why is my Base file coming up with those?
[02:41] <Dr_willis_> boosties,  you may want clarify what you are doing.
[02:42] <Explo> boosties: what do you mean?
[02:42] <Viking667> I may have to export database, then import it into a newer database...
[02:42] <boosties> well I am trying to learn Python saw it in the add remove file page, it already says i have it but I cant seem to find it
[02:42] <ezzieyguywuf> boosties: you probably installed python 2.5 , if you mean you can't find the proper command just type python then touble tap <TAB>, and it will list all commands with the name python in them
[02:42] <boosties> If u cant tell i am new to Linux
[02:43] <ezzieyguywuf> boosties: of course, this is done in the terminal. there a loads of great guides for learnin python. I actually just started learning last week myself, and I'm already pretty far along!
[02:43] <ezzieyguywuf> boosties: would you like me to list these guides for you?
[02:43] <donavan_> can anyone tell my how I can open my file browser as root
[02:43] <boosties> yea man
[02:43] <boosties> I thought it was done in terminal but i wasnt sure
[02:43] <Explo> donavan_: type sudo nautilus in the terminal
[02:43] <donavan_> thanks
[02:44] <puff> specifically, rsync (and the failing drive) keeps getting hung up on the foo.net_backup_etc directory, which it's *supposed to be excluding.
[02:44] <puff> http://rsync.pastebin.com/d27a42b07
[02:45] <boosties> explo I did whats the module about?
[02:45] <Guest55703> the 8.10 beta comes out on the 30th right?
[02:45] <ezzieyguywuf> boosties: sure. http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/NonProgrammers lists tons of guides. first I read the non-programmer's tutorial, even though i've learned FORTRAN (i found everything else was way above my head) and now i'm almost through with the "how to think like a computer scientist". both are great introductions, and i'm writing a pretty complex program right now with those two under my belt
[02:45] <DasEi3> Viking667:folder webwizard doesn't exist on my sys
[02:45] <genii> Guest55703: The release version is Oct 30th
[02:45] <boosties> ok thanks
[02:45] <Viking667> hm. Weirder and weirder.
[02:45] <hvgotcodes> what's data=writeback in fstab do?
[02:45] <Guest55703> O.o
[02:45] <boosties> I am trying to learn how to program so any help is well appreciated
[02:46] <Guest55703> k so ill just get it through the update manager right?
[02:46] <ezzieyguywuf> i'm trying to recover my irc password with the "sendpass" command but it says i'm not authorized. can anyone help?
[02:46] <Dr_willis_> boosties theres online books that will teacy you python..  google will track some down for you
[02:46] <RonzO> Guest55703, you can, yes
[02:46] <genii> ezzieyguywuf: Again, I refer you to #ubuntu-ops for this question
[02:46] <Guest55703> is it ok or is it alot better to reinstall?
[02:47] <DasEi3> Viking667:so after reinstalling still same behaviour ?
[02:47] <RonzO> Guest55703, i like reinstalls myself
[02:47] <Guest55703> does it make much difference?
[02:47] <boosties> thanks Dr_Willis_
[02:47] <RonzO> Guest55703, not really, just personal prefference
[02:48] <Guest55703> k ty
[02:49] <boosties> Got another quick question (new to linux) on my mac trying to sign in as SU and Im using my root pw and its telling me I dont have permission does this sound right?
[02:49] <strAlan> is there a way for ubuntu to check any machines that join a network for compliance like updated virus scan, system patches, etc?
[02:50] <klamech> any simple answer to why sudo doesn't respect the .bashrc set aliases?
[02:50] <danbh_intrepid> strAlan: that would be a security hole if it could
[02:50] <bimberi> !root > boosties
[02:51] <william> what program runs the desktop? like icons and whats on the desktop
[02:51] <strAlan> danbh_intrepid, no it's not - it's called network access protection and it's done in Windows domains using NAP
[02:51] <Sowa_> Is there something like UltraMon available for Ubuntu, TwinView is quite limited.
[02:51] <bimberi> william: nautilus
[02:51] <strAlan> danbh_intrepid, if you can't help or answer the question can you please just not saying anything thank you
[02:51] <bimberi> william: (in GNOME)
[02:52] <william> bimberi,  it seems after editing my fstab with UUID's nothing is on my desktop
[02:52] <Rezagrats> If i kill gnome-panel will i lose all my windows/launchers ? also, can i still use the Applications menu using the Meta button (windows icon button)
[02:52] <danbh_intrepid> strAlan: sorry mate, there was actually a big discussion on slashdot regarding the security hole of such a nature.  Thats why I responded
[02:52] <dystopia> ..slashdot.. :>
[02:53] <strAlan> danbh_intrepid, no offence taken
[02:53] <bimberi> william: not sure about that sorry
[02:54] <bimberi> william: is $HOME/Desktop empty?  Does the fstab editing mean you're mounting a different disk that /home is on?
[02:54] <donavan_> anyone had any experience with punkbuster being a punk and not updating.... tried the mannual update and nothing ever tried the PBsetup and it give me some stupid error
[02:55] <strAlan> is there a way for ubuntu to check any machines that join a network for compliance like updated virus scan, system patches, etc?
[02:56] <droopsta915> i have a file with a path on my desktop, but its not on my desktop? how i can i put it on the desktop?
[02:57] <Chowder>  is there any way that I can change the color of the text on the gnome panel?
[02:57] <danbh_intrepid> !security > strAlan   you should check out this page    Maybe nessus is what you are looking for
[02:57] <Rezagrats> For my gnone-panel, where are the Launchers located ?
[02:57] <danbh_intrepid> !security > strAlan
[02:57] <Chowder> Rezagrats: you have to add the launchers
[02:58] <Rezagrats> Chowder, i have launchers _ON_ there... but where are they on my hard disk ?
[02:58] <ubuntunub> how can i manage the performance settings of ubuntu? (min/max CPU frequency, etc.)
[02:58] <Chowder> Rezagrats: /bin
[02:58] <Chowder> for executables
[02:58] <strAlan> danbh_intrepid, no, but thank you for trying
[02:59] <bimberi> Rezagrats: /usr/share/applications (.desktop files)
[03:00] <Kattollikisd> What is the command to open de Trash?
[03:01] <DasEi3> Viking667:sys upated/upgraded ?
[03:01] <david> hello
[03:01] <zetheroo-ubuntu> I am having a very hard time getting my mic to work on my Thinkpad R61 ... please help
[03:01] <david> i have compiz enable but when i watch a movie with totem i see the screen flicker
[03:01] <gera> turn off compiz
[03:02] <Chris_Foster> Kattollikisd: go to Trash:/ in your file browser, i think
[03:02] <Guest84869> that would be a solution but i need it for avant
[03:02] <gera> yea is the same when you play wow or try to open google earth
[03:02] <Chris_Foster> Kattollikisd: it might not work in gnome
[03:02] <Guest84869> gera i noticed it with googel earth also, no fix?
[03:02] <techsupport> how can i completely change computer name ?
[03:03] <gera> i just turn compiz off whenever i use any of those
[03:03] <bimberi> Rezagrats: or perhaps $HOME/.gnome2/panel2.d/default/launchers/  :)
[03:03] <genii> techsupport: man hostname
[03:03] <zimbres> what command should i type to read the man for fgets?
[03:03] <Guest84869> gera, the problem is taht i use awn with no other panels, so i kind of need it
[03:03] <Viking667> DasEi3: upgraded. Not what the problem was.
[03:03] <bimberi> techsupport: hostname command and editing /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[03:03] <DasEi3> Viking667:hardy ?
[03:04] <Rezagrats> Ty bimberi!
[03:04] <Viking667> DasEi3: seems there was a regression problem with migrating old pre-2.x settings... I deleted $user/.openoffice and $user/.openoffice2   - restarted, error has gone away.
[03:04] <bimberi> Rezagrats: np :)
[03:04] <DasEi3> Viking667:sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade      , never wrong
[03:04] <zimbres> how do i read the man of a c standard function?
[03:04] <Chris_Foster> Hi, I have a password saved in firefox, and Im trying to find out what that password is (I cant remember it), any idea how to get it? It apears when I go to the webpage, but It shows as black circles and copy and pasting it comes up with black circles.... Any help please?
[03:05] <piju_> hello anybody know what type of wireless chipset dell inspiron 1420 is using ?
[03:05] <Viking667> DasEi3: except in _this_ case. The error wasn't with OpenOffice itself - i.e. those files have never existed in OpenOffice 2.x.
[03:05] <Viking667> It was with files that USED to be in OpenOffice.org 1.x
[03:05] <daaaman64> anyone know why spell check in openoffice might not be working? the lines don't show up at all :/
[03:05] <Viking667> anyhow, that's all sorted, now I can depart happen.
[03:05] <DasEi3> fine so
[03:06] <Viking667> daaaman64: heh. Can't help there. You turned ON spellchecking in your Options and installed dictionary.?
[03:06] <Chowder> piju_: GOOGLE
[03:06] <Viking667> DasEi3: yup.
[03:06] <DasEi3> nice :)
[03:06] <daaaman64> Viking667, maybe not the dictionary. anyone know what the package is called?
[03:06] <Chris_Foster> daaaman64: It could be because its turned off, and its most likely not a ubuntu fault if its not working. Try an openoffice forum or something simular
[03:06] <zetheroo-ubuntu> why am I getting such bad pickup on my internal mic?
[03:07] <Chris_Foster> Hi, I have a password saved in firefox, and Im trying to find out what that password is (I cant remember it), any idea how to get it? It apears when I go to the webpage, but It shows as black circles and copy and pasting it comes up with black circles.... Any help please?
[03:07] <genii> zetheroo-ubuntu: Maybe you have an Intel HDA soundcard
[03:07] <DasEi3> !repeat|Chris_Foster
[03:07] <Viking667> daaaman64: openoffice.org-dictionary-en-US, I don't know the exact name.
[03:07] <Rezagrats> Chris_Foster, do as much as you can to remember the pass. if you can't find out if you can reset the pass somehow. a suggestion is to use Epiphany web browser. you can check your passwords and to what site they're for. (this may cause a physical security issue if someone got on to Epiphany.(no credit card data is saved in this form))
[03:07] <zetheroo-ubuntu> genii: I think I do ... can this be fixed?
[03:07] <Viking667> you could use apt-cache search openoffice | grep openoffice | grep dictionary
[03:07] <klos> Three tehnologies are now supported in Ubuntu Server Edition 8.04: iSCSI and DRBD.
[03:08] <genii> !intelhda > zetheroo-ubuntu
[03:08] <klos> spelling mistake on the ubuntu page
[03:08] <Chris_Foster> Kk, thanks Ill check it out, sorry for repeating...
[03:08] <Viking667> oh. Sorry. That apt-cache doesn't seem to work
[03:09] <bimberi> klos: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+filebug
[03:10] <tictac232434> !remote
[03:10] <tictac232434> Can someone help me setup a remote connect with another Ubuntu computer?
[03:10] <Viking667> daaaman64: hm. Can't see _any_ dictionary files in there... wonder if they've hooked into aspell/myspell et al.
[03:10] <genii> Viking667: I'm pretty sure it uses the myspell  dictionaries
[03:11] <Viking667> ah. Right.
[03:11] <daaaman64> Viking667, that's what I'm looking at. I have myspell and it still doesn't work :/
[03:11] <Viking667> daaaman64: (1) did you install myspell, and (2) did you install a english dictionary?
[03:11] <daaaman64> yes and yes
[03:12] <tictac232434> Can someone help me step by step through setting up a remote desktop, with another Ubuntu computer on the same network?
[03:12] <Viking667> I'll take a look under my other machine's options. The machine is my wifes, so bear with me.
[03:12] <tylrd> tictac232434--> have you done any tutorials on this subject yet?
[03:13] <techsupport> bimberi, trying to change the name of my computer, have a look http://pastebin.com/m74854169
[03:13] <tictac232434> Umm just the one that comes with the program. But it just explains buttons
[03:13] <g00dfella> hello, I'm trying to compile something and im new to linux and don't think i have the library's in the right places, can someone here help me with that?
[03:13] <iheartmarek_> anyone knwo where the emai (mail client) website is?
[03:13] <iheartmarek_> i can't find it on google anywhere
[03:13] <tictac232434> Can you point me in the direction of a good one?
[03:14] <Darklust> Hey guys, is it possible for me to update Edgy to the newest ubuntu without having to download a newer version?
[03:14] <techsupport> bimberi, also ran command sudo hostname 3800 AMD
[03:14] <techsupport> bimberi, also ran command sudo hostname 3800AMD
[03:14] <gera> try nslookup -q=mx emai
[03:14] <Pici> !hostname | techsupport
[03:15] <zimbres>  what package should i have to be able to read standard c functions?
[03:15] <the_dude> my games dont have any sound, plz help!
[03:15] <Pici> zimbres: you mean the man pages?
[03:15] <Viking667> daaaman64: you gone through "File=>Wizards=>Install new dictionaries" yet? Might be a place to look.
[03:15] <Darklust> Is it possible to update Edgy to the newest ubuntu even without the support?
[03:16] <danbh_intrepid> Darklust: why not do a clean install?
[03:16] <RHSanborn> I'm trying to setup a cell phone as a usb modem, but I need to find out what it's /dev/* name is, is there some way to view a list of active devices?
[03:16] <Darklust> I only have one dvd :(
[03:16] <genii> techsupport: You obviously didn't follow my earlier instruction on reading the manpage of the command hostname. It explains fairly clearly how to change the name
[03:16] <Pici> zimbres: if so, its manpages-dev you want.
[03:16] <techsupport> Pici, right, i did all that still see orudie@ubuntu:~$
[03:16] <Viking667> daaaman64:  then check under Tools=>Options, "Language Settings=>Writing Aids"
[03:16] <the_dude> my games dont have any sound...
[03:16] <zimbres> Pici, I have no entry for c functions for example "man 3 fgets".
[03:16] <zimbres> Pici, OK, i will try
[03:17] <danbh_intrepid> Darklust: do you have lots of bandwidth?  You could just keep upgrading with update-manager
[03:17] <Darklust> Dan: I try that, but it tells me the respositories dont exist.
[03:17] <Darklust> Apparently because Edgy is no longer maintained >.>
[03:17] <danbh_intrepid> Darklust: can you pastebin the error?
[03:17] <gera> hey dude
[03:17] <tictac232434> Tylrd: you there?
[03:18] <Viking667> daaaman64: I clicked on the first "Available language modules" entry, and got a window with some possibilities in it...
[03:18] <Viking667> Anyhow, time I left. I've got a ipv6-ipv4 gateway issue to sort out.
[03:18] <Viking667> (hurricane)
[03:20] <Darklust> Dan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/55162/
[03:20] <iheartmarek_> anyone know of a good terminal based email client?
[03:21] <danbh_intrepid> Darklust: well, you wana do a manual upgrade to feisty?
[03:21] <Darklust> I dont want to download the iso and burn it :(
[03:22] <genii> iheartmarek_: Yes. It's called mail
[03:22] <danbh_intrepid> Darklust: Im talking about a manual, unsupported upgrade with apt-get
[03:22] <Pici> Darklust: You're going to end up downloading more by going through from one release to the next to get to Hardy.
[03:22] <iheartmarek_> genii: where do i get that?
[03:22] <Darklust> Dan: Well yes
[03:22] <genii> iheartmarek_: mailutils package. Then you can use on commandline just the command "mail"
[03:23] <Yud_Zroc> wats the rules for selling ubuntu with a custom builtr computer
[03:23] <danbh_intrepid> Darklust: Pici is correct, the method I help you with will use tons of extra bandwidth, since you will have several other release upgrades to go through
[03:23] <iheartmarek_> does it provide a "gui" through terminal?
[03:23] <iheartmarek_> genii: e.g., http://fortunaty.net/software/emai/screenshots/emai-reading-email-with-context.png
[03:23] <Darklust> Dan: I would still like to know :)
[03:23] <Kira[work]> Hi guys,
[03:24] <danbh_intrepid> Darklust: well, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and change every edgy to feisty
[03:24] <Kira[work]> The instructions for PureFTPd and pureadmin at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureFTP seem to be a bit outdated as far as Hardy is concerned.
[03:24] <Darklust> Dan: That will work?
[03:24] <Kira[work]> Does Hardy's inetd still use inetd.conf?
[03:25] <danbh_intrepid> Darklust: there is a sed command that can do it for you, something like sed -i "s/edgy/feisty/g" /etc/apt/sources.list   BUT DONT DO THAT.  Just do it manually.  Im not sure of the command
[03:25] <danbh_intrepid> Darklust: nope, its going to be a rough ride, but it will be ok
[03:25] <danbh_intrepid> Darklust: lets go to a different chatroom...
[03:25] <Darklust> Which one?
[03:26] <danbh_intrepid> #climl maybe?
[03:26] <genii> iheartmarek_: The one I speak of is more primitive than that. Like this: http://i35.tinypic.com/wqv8cl.png
[03:27] <nickz327> wat would the commands to stop gonme/x11 be?
[03:27] <nickz327> alt f3 to access the terminal right? then what?
[03:27] <hello_scienceAt5> hey guys,,, whats a good command to see what my router, modem's IP is... i tried inetd but to no avail,,, did i goof the command up or is there another on a standard ubuntu install i can use?
[03:28] <genii> nickz327: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:28] <nickz327> and restart would be "same thing" start
[03:28] <nickz327> then login?
[03:29] <Yud_Zroc> correct
[03:30] <blak`> why would i install ubuntu the first time it detects my network card and wireless ... 2nd time i install it doesnt detect any network devices?
[03:30] <nickz327> why shouldn't i switch over to openSUSE? i plan on doing so.
[03:31] <genii> nickz327: Ubuntu support is much better :)
[03:31] <hello_scienceAt5> what about debian?
[03:32] <nickz327> the only thing i could think of is that synaptic is great, but thats it
[03:32] <nickz327> debian isn't a big enough difference
[03:32] <zelrikriando> genii, he will ask you to prove it right now :)
[03:32] <nickz327> too similiar to ubuntu
[03:32] <nickz327> im trying to progressively increase my linux abilities pretty much
[03:32] <genii> nickz327: Try FreeBSD for a while then
[03:33] <nickz327> a bit too big of a step. and i don't see any reason to switch to unix now.
[03:33] <hello_scienceAt5> nickz, ubuntu in my limited opinion is some of the best distros out.  gui, support, coding
[03:33] <blak`> why would i install ubuntu the first time it detects my network card and wireless ... 2nd time i install it doesnt detect any network devices?
[03:33] <nickz327> i'm looking for something a little cleaner, a little less bloated
[03:34] <nickz327> eventually i'll try slackware
[03:34] <lainy> I want to change my unix password (using passwd) to one I was originally using, but I get "Bad: new password is too simple"...but I was originally using it...any way to override this?
[03:34] <genii> nickz327: I'd suggest gentoo then
[03:34] <nickz327> anyway, i have to leave
[03:34] <nickz327> thanks for suggestions
[03:35] <hello_scienceAt5> blak, did you turn any perifs off then on in a diffrent order? you dierent.d somthing diff
[03:35] <blak`> i have /home on its own partition....
[03:35] <blak`> thats all that is diff
[03:35] <hello_scienceAt5> weird
[03:36] <blak`> yea
[03:36] <hello_scienceAt5> but not suprising... idk
[03:36] <blak`> everything worked fine ... smae exact install
[03:36] <blak`> now it doesnt work
[03:36] <blak`> lol
[03:36] <tritium> !enter | blak`
[03:36] <blak`> yea some people say sometimes this happens ... i guess i just have to manually find this
[03:36] <blak`> sorry
[03:36] <tictac232434> Does anyone know how to use a Remote Desktop Viewer?
[03:36] <hello_scienceAt5> wait.. im drunk... you said your netcard is not being seen?
[03:36] <blak`> yes
[03:37] <hello_scienceAt5> what sys are you using? lap, tower, model...
[03:37] <blak`> eeepc 1000h
[03:38] <hello_scienceAt5> ooh k did you check out (I think it is...) www.linux-on-laptops.com for compat probs?
[03:38] <ubuntunub> if i send an msn message to someone who is offline using Pidgin 2.4.1, will they get the msg when they come back online?
[03:39] <m3thod> hi all.
[03:39] <genii> lainy: sudo passwd <username>     should let you set any bad password you like
[03:40] <clayg> what is the name of the "disk mounter" that allows me to access my xp parition? I need the actual name callable by command line
[03:40] <lainy> genii: thank you
[03:40] <jrib> !ntfs > clayg
[03:40] <lainy> genii: i cannot ssh after I changed password...do I need to reset some key?
[03:41] <genii> lainy: Just use whatever password the ssh server is set for
[03:41] <MeVsTheVoices> How would I duplicate output to a file as well as stdout?
[03:42] <jrib> MeVsTheVoices: COMMAND | tee FILE
[03:42] <clayg> jrib, Thanks, I think this is a different one.  I made a shortcut for it on my taskbar , I need to put it on my girlfriends taskbar  but can't remember what the actual name of the program is and looking through sys>prefs and sys> admin i don't spot it :(
[03:42] <Hilikus> is there a script or CLI program that lets me send a single message on MSN and then disconnects?
[03:42] <lainy> genii: i changed my password but i can only ssh into my server with the old password--that's weird
[03:42] <Hilikus> i want to use MSN as a report system for my machine
[03:42] <MeVsTheVoices> jrib: I just tried that, I got nothig
[03:42] <jrib> MeVsTheVoices: be more specific then
[03:42] <lainy> i used sudo passwd twice to make sure i changed the password
[03:42] <clayg> the one i need is a gui
[03:42] <jrib> clayg: ntfs-config sets up fstab and then it will always be accessible through nautilus
[03:42] <MeVsTheVoices> jrib: Send output of given to a file and to terminal STDOUT
[03:43] <genii> lainy: sshd likely using cached one
[03:43] <freedumMan> how do i find out what path my device is using Example my USB phone is connected but i ran dmesg but i need a path like /dev/??? is there a command to find this out
[03:43] <jrib> MeVsTheVoices: I gave you the answer.  If it isn't working then you need to be more specific about the command you are running
[03:43] <MeVsTheVoices> Tee: Copy standard input to each FILE, and also to standard output.
[03:43] <clayg> jrib, looking like it's the one, thanks alot
[03:44] <lainy> genii: do you know how i might clear that cache?
[03:44] <jrib> MeVsTheVoices: yeah
[03:45] <MeVsTheVoices> jrib: Not, copy standard output to each file, and also to standard output
[03:45] <shamus> Does anybody know any folder sharing applications to share to DLNA devices? samba doesn't do the trick (work for ps3)
[03:45] <jrib> MeVsTheVoices: what exactly are you running?
[03:45] <CuraHack> I have a code, witch is a password for a modem, and I want to decode it.... How can i do that? (I have no idea what kind of encryption)
[03:45] <jrib> MeVsTheVoices: | takes stdout and makes it stdin for tee...
[03:46] <blak`> I have this extra quiet line after two of my menu.lst entries can i delete that?
[03:46] <genii> lainy: Likely sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart            (you'll need to login after again)
[03:46] <akahige> I'm trying to figure out how to alter the speed of my gigabit NIC... according to ethtool, the speed is currently 100Mb/s, but it won't accept a speed alteration command: "ethtool -s eth0 speed 1000 duplex full"... any ideas...?
[03:47] <danbh_intrepid> CuraHack: crack open the modem, reverse engineer the design, use google to discover encryption?
[03:47] <blak`> I guess ... do i only delete the quiet splash part or do i also delete the following line with quiet all by itself?
[03:47] <lainy> genii: i actually tried that already and it doesn't work
[03:47] <lainy> genii: I appreciate your help by the way
[03:47] <henley> Hi to all, my mother tongue is not english. I want to know how you call the first page of a document, where let say at university, you'll put your name, the name of the school, course number etc...
[03:47] <henley> Is it simply a "presentation page"
[03:48] <MeVsTheVoices> jrib: Thank ya, figured it out
[03:48] <usser> akahige, do you have cat6 wires as well as switch?
[03:48] <akahige> @henley: it's usually called a "title page"
[03:48] <Esquilo> henley, you can use #english channel for these questions ;)
[03:48] <blak`> henley: You just center a title on it with whatever seems relevant to what it is about
[03:48] <usser> akahige, a gigabit equipment has to be installed on the entire segment for the card to actually work at gigabit speed
[03:48] <Esquilo> *##english
[03:48] <akahige> @usser: yes.  all components are GB
[03:49] <henley> thanks, in french, its a literal traduction of presentation page
[03:49] <genii> lainy: Nothing immediately comes to mind.
[03:49] <lainy> genii: ok np
[03:49] <blak`> Does anyone know if i should delete the "quiet" line after each entry in my menu.list as well as deleting quiet splash after the kernel lines?
[03:49] <henley> yeah, its for building one in Lyx
[03:49] <oscillocam> lainy: I just have to chime in 'cause it's so weird... does you new password work from the console? are you sure it got changed?
[03:49] <airdogg> I need help building a routing table for my evdo ppp0 connection http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=906126&page=7
[03:49] <henley> I know how in linux but not in windows... need to ask uncle google
[03:49] <usser> akahige, hm dunno then
[03:50] <bobertdos> blak: It really doesn't hurt anything to remove quiet statements. The only thing it may do is make your bootup sequence switch to a verbose text mode where it will just show you all the output of everything it's doing.
[03:50] <akahige> @usser: not only can I not crank the connection speed up to 1000, I can't turn it down to 10Mb, either
[03:50] <lainy> oscillocam: i changed it twice with sudo passwd, but i can still only log in with the old password
[03:50] <genii> lainy: Possibly ssh won't allow insecure password but I think it unlikely
[03:50] <lainy> genii: actually ive now changed it to a secure password
[03:50] <blak`> ok, thankyou bobertdos
[03:51] <tictac232434> Can someone walk me through setting up a remote desktop viewer?
[03:51] <ubuntunub> any way to ensure my CPU is running at 100% in ubuntu?
[03:51] <lainy> it's some sort of rsa key cache
[03:51] <oscillocam> yea, but screw ssh, does it work from the console
[03:51] <lainy> going to google how to reset it
[03:51] <lainy> not sure what u mean
[03:51] <lainy> im using console yes
[03:52] <blak`> ubuntunub: you mean it's running as fast as it can run or it is being utilized to 100% currently?
[03:52] <oscillocam> i mean the password to access your window session or text console whatever you use.
[03:52] <akahige> @tictac: do a "man rdesktop"... you'll see all of the command switches necessary. it's actually easier to run rdesktop from a term than it is to use the GUI
[03:52] <CuraHack> How can I know what kind of encription tare is on a code, (i have the password)
[03:53] <tictac232434> AKA: ty gimme a sec
[03:53] <ubuntunub> i mean i dont want the OS to limit it, like power saving profiles in Vista for example
[03:53] <zetheroo-ubuntu> my internal mic is not working ... please help ...
[03:53] <ubuntunub> i want it to be 100% max all the time
[03:53] <ubuntunub> i dont want its "max" to be limited to 50% for example to save power
[03:54] <zetheroo-ubuntu> installing the latest alsa did not fix this
[03:54] <hotdog003> Hello! I'm respinning the Kubuntu live CD and I was wondering what packages should go into it. I have the kubuntu-live task and the kubuntu-kde4-desktop... but it seems a bit big. What do I have that I shouldn't and what don't I have that I should.
[03:54] <lainy> it'a server; on my local console, i i ssh user@hostname to log in and only old password works.
[03:55] <tictac232434> AKA: Ehh i am still lost...
[03:55] <tictac232434> AKA: I knew how to do it on Windows...
[03:55] <usser> ubuntunub, why is it that you want it at 100%?
[03:56] <oscillocam> oh i see, i was only trying to see if there's another service you can try to log into besides ssh. (like ftp or samba server.) then you would know if it's an ssh or a general auth (pam) issue.
[03:56] <usser> ubuntunub, its gonna scale up once u start doing intensive tasks
[03:56] <lainy> ok
[03:57] <nmaxt2> can someone explain to me how to change xorg video card settings in 8.1?
[03:58] <jrib> nmaxt2: #ubuntu+1 for intrepid help
[03:58] <nmaxt2> ty
[03:58] <lainy> oscillocam: problem solved. my mistake. by using sudo passwd, i was changing the root's passwd, not the user with which i was connecting to
[03:59] <oscillocam> oh great!
[03:59] <zetheroo-ubuntu> anyone know how to get a mic working with Intel HDA sound card?
[03:59] <oscillocam> ah yes
[03:59] <lainy> oscillocam: thanks for your help
[03:59] <oscillocam> sure...
[03:59] <akahige> @tictac: here's an rdesktop command I usually use: "rdesktop -g 1680x1050 -D -x l -a 16 [ip address of target machine]"... the elements are geometry (i.e. screen size), window manager decoration hide, etc., down to the IP address -- you can see them all in the man page. there's nothing to actually set up -- you just call out the elements you want
[04:00] <oscillocam> Why would XFS be slow? I recently had to go with ext3 because it was faster on an HP hardware raid (e600) I'm running. Anyone else using XFS on an HP server?
[04:00] <gTea> if [ $# -eq 0 ]; ...can anyone help me with what $# denotes? some sort of input?
[04:00] <meso1> It's the number of arguments
[04:00] <tictac232434> aka: ty
[04:01] <airdogg> anyone have good knowledge of wireless evdo ppp0 connections and routing tables?
[04:01] <meso1> So if $# is 0, then no command line arguments were passed to your script
[04:01] <gTea> meso1, makes sense. thanks
[04:01] <vilhelm> anyone here that has a phone with wlan?
[04:01] <meso1> gTea are you scripting in bash?
[04:02] <daaaman64> Viking667, thank you for your help. I have yet to get anything working however. But dont' break your back over it.
[04:03] <gTea> meso1, reading an example script in "essential sys admin" by o'reilly. what you said makes sense since they have a case set up with optional flags here
[04:03] <airdogg> anyone have good knowledge of wireless evdo ppp0 connections and routing tables? I have a routing table in windows where connection works good, and i notice the routing table in ubuntu is different can somone look and see what is going on? might be a simple basic fix http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=906126&page=7
[04:05] <tonysssss> is it possible to install xubuntu and retain windows bootloader
[04:06] <Lul2x> hey. I'm currently installing ubuntu and am making my own partitions... I was wondering if I need "bootable flag" turned on for my first partition, which will be used to install ubuntu
[04:06] <tictac232434> Aka: did not work man..
[04:06] <genii> Lul2x: It's not required
[04:07] <tictac232434> Aka:says connection refused I port forwarded and everything...
[04:07] <kansan> i want something to update dyndns for me regularly ... is there something on ubuntu hardy that can do that for me?
[04:07] <Lul2x> gennii, great, thanks. Do you also now what the Mount Option "relatime" means?
[04:07] <jrib> !info ddclient | kansan
[04:07] <airdogg> 2   142 ms    86 ms   127 ms  4.sub-66-174-67.myvzw.com [<IP_ADDRESS>]   when i ping <IP_ADDRESS> it says request timed out. or sometimes destination host unreachable [<IP_ADDRESS> but a tracert returns a ping for it  i need to monitor my ping times to my gateway
[04:07] <genii> kansan: ezipupdate
[04:07] <genii> (as well as ddclient)
[04:08] <kansan> genii, what is easier/better?
[04:08] <Guest96892> hi .. im new to ubuntu .. just installed it right now .
[04:08] <genii> kansan: I've only used ezipupdate and not ddclient so I can only give a one-sided answer to that :)
[04:08] <savage-> hi
[04:08] <savage-> anyone using prelink here?
[04:09] <meso1> I'm using Pidgin - is there a way to suppress enter/leave room messages?
[04:09] <kansan> is there a dyndns alternative?
[04:09] <carpediem> kansan: Zoneedit is free
[04:09] <sram> meso1: i believe not. pidgin sucks for IRC...you should get an actual IRC client.
[04:10] <zetheroo-ubuntu> my mic is not working
[04:10] <zetheroo-ubuntu> very faint sound
[04:10] <meso1> sram, I know it's not fully featured, but if I just want to check out a channel from time to time, I think it's enough.
[04:10] <genii> kansan: Many. http://www.technopagan.org/dynamic/   has a list
[04:10] <zetheroo-ubuntu> and a lot of white noise
[04:10] <carpediem> sram: I've been using IRC since the beginning of time, and I think Pidgin is actually one of the best IRC clients around.  Purist can whine all they want, but it does an excellent job.
[04:11] <meso1> carpe: nice to know someone feels that way
[04:12] <tritium> meso1: not many do
[04:12] <morth_> ugh.. my friend is here with me and he wants to know how he can become a computer hacker/cracker? "Note: dont flame me - its my friend lol:
[04:12] <Rezagrats> Hey guys, my screenshots used to be only about 300KB~ and now they've bolted up to 1MB a piece. any ideas why ?
[04:12] <tritium> meso1: also note that empathy replaces pidgin as the default IM client in Gnome 2.24
[04:13] <genii> Rezagrats: Perhaps you've tripled your screen resolution?
[04:13] <meso1> I'll stick to pidgin because I like that my profile is cross-platform
[04:13] <TrailWhisperer> So is it true that fglrx will not be supported in intrepid?
[04:13] <genii> TrailWhisperer: PErhaps ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:13] <TrailWhisperer> Okay, thanks :)
[04:13] <genii> TrailWhisperer: Although I doubt it
[04:13] <bazooka> hey guys ... kopete keeps showing my address list even after i logout ...how do i stop it from doing that
[04:14] <Rezagrats> Genii, my resolution has always been at 1280x1024
[04:14] <Rezagrats> *.
[04:14] <carpediem> meso1: yeah, that too.  PortablePidgin....pure nirvana
[04:14] <bazooka> anybody knows to fix this up
[04:15] <bytor4232> carpediem: Even better than Finch ;)
[04:15]  * bytor4232 hugs his finch
[04:15] <TrailWhisperer> genii, there are release notes saying as much because of it not being compatible with the new X or something. I couldn't install Intrepid's beta without doing so without the driver.
[04:15] <carpediem> bazooka: that Q may be better answered in #kubuntu
[04:15] <bazooka> ohh please
[04:16] <bytor4232> Of course for IRC, I'm stuck in the stone ages.  I still use ircII
[04:16] <puff> bytor4232: I use emacs.
[04:16] <kansan> desktop-igloo /usr/sbin: sudo ddclient;  Use of uninitialized value in string ne at /usr/sbin/ddclient line 1973.
[04:16] <meso1> Does anyone have any articles on why Empathy is replacing Pidgin as the default?
[04:17] <tritium> meso1: no reason why, just the Gnome 2.24 release notes: http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.24/
[04:17] <bytor4232> meso1: I'm not for it.  My first act will be to apt-get remove empathy and apt-get install pidgin