[12:14] <mervteck> heyyy cali pwns!
[12:14] <BluesKaj> no says aboot here in ontario
[12:14] <cpk1> BluesKaj: aww, but alot of eh's?
[12:15] <BluesKaj> but it ain' t abowwwwwwwt either  ...aye ?
[12:15] <codyt> I've heard aboot once, talking to a girl from Canada, but she didn't always pronounce it that way.
[12:15] <nats> hi again
[12:15] <nats> :P
[12:15] <codyt> hi
[12:16] <cpk1> hrmm i suppose i pronounce it abowt
[12:16] <BluesKaj> that's sort of the common thing amongst ppl who don't express themselves too well, something akin to your "like"
[12:16] <phobiac> I'm considering downloading apt-build because it seems useful, anyone know if there are any real benefits to it?
[12:16] <jubuntu> hi, how do i use vixie-cron's crontab non-interactively?
[12:16] <dddude55> sudo dmesg | grep acx
[12:16] <dddude55> just berings up another command line
[12:16] <dddude55> is that bad lol
[12:17] <djwilcox> hi im having a bit of grief with wireless
[12:17] <dddude55> lol
[12:17] <phobiac> !apt-build
[12:17] <ubotu> apt-build: frontend to apt to build, optimize and install packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.17 (edgy), package size 33 kB, installed size 188 kB
[12:17] <djwilcox> seem to have a problem getting an ip address with dhcp
[12:17] <BluesKaj> !wireless
[12:17] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:17] <djwilcox> yer been thru the wireless docs
[12:17] <dddude55> well i had no luck with acx100
[12:17] <djwilcox> still cant work it out
[12:18] <cpk1> dddude55: you can just read dmesg yourself instead of using grep
[12:19] <djwilcox> i can scan for network with my wireless card but not connect and get an ip
[12:19] <djwilcox> something about dhcp and sleeping
[12:19] <dddude55> 17184969.096000]  pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 0
[12:19] <dddude55> [17184969.096000]  pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia0.0
[12:20] <dddude55> --- ^
[12:20] <makuseru> im trying to remove a package that is broken and i cant remove it, a apr-get remove, a autoremove, none of it works, how can i remove this package
[12:20] <dddude55> if it sees it why wont it recognise it >.<
[12:20] <dddude55> i just cahnged it to the other pcbus slot and it now says detected in slot 1
[12:20] <dddude55> so i know it sees it
[12:20] <dddude55> it just doesnt want to work for me
[12:20] <Theory> makuseru: what error when you try to remove it?
[12:22] <mervteck> hey guys i got a konsole running and im in the directory of my ventrilo server but whats the command to tell it to run it
[12:22] <djwilcox> has anyone managed to get 6.10 working wirelessly with broadcom chips
[12:23] <djwilcox> im using a powerpc mac and cant connect to my open wireless network
[12:24] <lz1gjd> could any1 tell me how to access the filesystem on nokia n70
[12:24] <lz1gjd> !gnokii
[12:24] <ubotu> gnokii: Datasuite for the mobile phones (console & X). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.13-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 811 kB, installed size 2944 kB
[12:25] <indygo> so what is the program extension under linux?  Is it .exe like in windows, or something different?
[12:25] <cpk1> indygo: what?
[12:25] <indygo> does linux have file extensions?
[12:26] <lz1gjd> indygo: if a file is executable is defined by it attributes - x
[12:26] <cpk1> sure add .whatever and you have an extension
[12:26] <makuseru> Theory: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3663/
[12:26] <indygo> ahh, so that's completely different than in windows :)  no wonder I can't find any programs! lol
[12:27] <cpk1> linux treats everyfile the same unless you tell it otherwise
[12:27] <Theory> makuseru: sudo dpkg -r beryl-plugins-extra may be what you want
[12:27] <nats> codyt we can't talk in private
[12:27] <nats> !
[12:28] <makuseru> Theory: ill try
[12:30] <lz1gjd> i wonder if any can tell me if it is possible to transfer files from my nokia file system to my computer using serial cable
[12:30] <dddude55> restarting
[12:34] <lz1gjd> please, anyone ?
[12:36] <dddude55> !dvd
[12:36] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:42] <vbgunz> why does Kubuntu ship with kghostview and kpdf?
[12:43] <juan_> hola a todos
[12:45] <juan_> alguien q haya podido instalar radeon 9250 en Edgy
[12:45] <juan_> ?
[12:46] <nats> hello
[12:46] <juan_> hi
[12:48] <BluesKaj> what's the key on a laptop that's equivalent to right click on a pc , to open a dialog box menu ?
[12:48] <dddude55> windows xp and their permissions are stupid lol
[12:48] <dddude55> um that would be the right click of the laptop
[12:49] <BluesKaj> or touchpad
[12:49] <juan_> problem with ati 9250 and kub edgy
[12:52] <phobiac> BluesKaj: I've never seen a touchpad that can right click. Tapping it usually left clicks. There should be two extra buttons for right and left click though.
[12:52] <Shak1> juan: this is an english speaking channel, if you want support in your native language please try #kubuntu-es     : regarding your problem , the radeon 9250 has some issues with the dri. i cant help you with ati-support because i am used to nvidia but have a look at this page http://dri.freedesktop.org/snapshots/
[12:52] <phobiac> However many laptop keyboards I've seen have a key (looks like a piece of paper with a cursor on it) that opens the right click menu...
[12:53] <phobiac> Although mine doesn't seem to be working for me.
[12:53] <phobiac> !spanish | juan
[12:53] <ubotu> juan: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:54] <juan_> thanks
[12:55] <Shak1> !klingonian |shak1
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about klingonian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <Shak1> ^
[12:56] <dope> is there any type of monitoring software i can put on my computer to see if my roommate is using my computer?
[12:58] <dddude55> well yes
[12:58] <dddude55> linux comes with vpn software, if you set it up to watch mode
[12:58] <phobiac> dope: Your computer is passworded isn't it?
[12:58] <dddude55> then you can see the screen
[12:59] <dope> i can't access my comp when i'm at work
[12:59] <dddude55> but i dont know a way to hide it so a roomate would know if it was opoen
[12:59] <dope> yes it does but i'm curious what they're doing
[12:59] <dddude55> have you tried asking them?
[01:00] <dope> it's more like i know they're using it, i'm curious what they're up to
[01:00] <phobiac> dope: Why not just lock the computer so they can't get into it in the first place...
[01:00] <dope> it's more like i know they're using it, i'm curious what they're up to
[01:01] <phobiac> You could set up VNC.
[01:02] <dope> i'm at work while this is taking place
[01:02] <phobiac> I think it's better to confront them or just lock the computer when you walk away.
[01:02] <phobiac> Do they know your password or something? Why not change it if they do?
[01:02] <dope> [dope]  it's more like i know they're using it, i'm curious what they're up to
[01:02] <dddude55> ...
[01:02] <dope> they use the guest account
[01:03] <dope> i don't wanna be a douche and just change it on them
[01:03] <phobiac> This is on a linux comp right?
[01:03] <dope> yup
[01:04] <dope> although i do put pornographic wallpapers on the guest account
[01:04] <dope> that still doesn't deter them
[01:05] <Theory> lol
[01:05] <phobiac> If they are using it and you don't want them to, just change it or confront them. It's better then possible hurt feelings if they find out you were spying on them.
[01:05] <Shak1> haha me neither
[01:05] <dope> i'd like to ween them off it
[01:05] <dope> maybe i'll have beryl auto start
[01:05] <phobiac> Oh, and if you want something to confront them slap goatse on the guest account as the wallpaper.
[01:06] <Shak1> hehe
[01:06] <dope> i put lesbian porn on it
[01:06] <dope> my roommate is a female
[01:06] <LjL> !ohmy
[01:06] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:06] <phobiac> Once again, goatse just may solve your problem.
[01:06] <phobiac> However it might get you some odd looks...
[01:09] <dope> we'll see how the L-porn goes
[01:09] <Shak1> dope: LKL Linux KeyLogger        might solve your problem. put it in startup and watch the logfiles. its antisocial but more convenient then goatse
[01:10] <ccherrett> I have a 160 GB ide drive that was flaking out in one machine I had. I would like to try to see if it is usable. Anyone know what I could to to test the drive?
[01:11] <dope> actually is there a way to block a site
[01:11] <phobiac> dope: What's your router?
[01:11] <phobiac> If you have one.
[01:12] <dope> wrt54g
[01:12] <phobiac> Perfect. Give me a moment.
[01:12] <dope> actually i gotta run
[01:12] <phobiac> In your router settings
[01:12] <phobiac> Under "access restrictions"
[01:12] <phobiac> You can block certain websites.
[01:13] <dope> i just want the site to be blocked for the guest account on linux :)
[01:13] <phobiac> By url or by keyword.
[01:13] <phobiac> Ah, no idea how to do that.
[01:13] <dope> darn
[01:13] <Minataku> Yay!
[01:13] <phobiac> You could always block just before you leave then unblock when you get back.
[01:13] <dope> i'll figure it out when i get back
[01:13] <Minataku> clear
[01:13] <Minataku> Doh
[01:13] <phobiac> Alright
[01:14] <Shak1> you can block the site on a specific time of the day , say when you know you are at work aso.
[01:14] <Minataku> Forgot the slash
[01:14] <Shak1> or you can look the whole internet from 800 h-1200 h for example
[01:14] <Shak1> lock
[01:15] <phobiac> Shak1 is right, I didn't think of that.
[01:17] <endo602> what command do i use to find the processes that are being useD?
[01:18] <phobiac> endo602: Top in the CLI
[01:18] <phobiac> If you want GUI go with ksysguard
[01:18] <endo602> terminal?
[01:19] <phobiac> top
[01:23] <mortici> are there any settings i can change to make konq more stable while browsing the web
[01:23] <phobiac> Hmm, I'm setting up apt-build. It asks for my architecture. I've got an AMD Turion 64 Mobile Technology ML-32. There's a bunch of options for Atholon, but no Turion. Any ide what I should choose?
[01:23] <phobiac> athlon*
[01:24] <phobiac> idea* Typos
[01:26] <dddude55> !flash
[01:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:26] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[01:30] <dddude55> !firefox
[01:30] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[01:30] <dawn> can I delete folders from /media?
[01:31] <phobiac> dawn: /media is usually where mounted drives go
[01:31] <dawn> I know I have one folder that is persistant
[01:31] <dawn> it was never properly umounted
[01:32] <dawn> and when I plug any usb device in the cahce copy is shown
[01:32] <dawn> *cache
[01:32] <beg1689> i have a question, something i dont understand
[01:32] <beg1689> where is my sound coming from?
[01:32] <mortici> god wth
[01:32] <dawn> LOL
[01:32] <beg1689> no artsd, no esd
[01:33] <beg1689> somone told me a sound daemon is needed for sound
[01:33] <mortici> why is konq so SLOW at loading web pages?
[01:33] <beg1689> because you touch yourself at night?
[01:33] <dawn> heh
[01:33] <phobiac> From my understanding /media is just where the mounted drives are mounted to. The folders in there aren't the drive actually being mounted, they are there for it to be mounted to.
[01:33] <mortici> are you spying on me?
[01:33] <mortici> or are you jelous that you can't?
[01:33] <dawn> ok phobiac
[01:33] <beg1689> little form column A, little form column B
[01:34] <mortici> exceltent
[01:34] <beg1689> dam i spelled from wrong twice
[01:34] <phobiac> dawn: If it's a drive that no longer needs to be mounted it *should* be safe to delete the folder.
[01:34] <mortici> stupid typos
[01:34] <dawn> I know, thats what I have been trying to do
[01:34] <dawn> the OS wont give me the option, I have yet to try the CL
[01:34] <phobiac> You might need root power to do it.
[01:35] <beg1689> so... what is actually required to have sound? because from my little knowledge of linux i dont see why it is working right now
[01:35] <beg1689> it used to work only if i started esd or artsd, now it works without them, didnt change a thing
[01:35] <phobiac> IF you want to use konq do kdesu konqueror /thedirectory
[01:35] <phobiac> IF you want to use konq do kdesu konqueror /media
[01:35] <dddude55> if i install firefox from adept is that all i need to do?
[01:35] <dawn> !konq
[01:35] <phobiac> Then just delete the folder
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <mortici> ok konq officially sucks as a web browser
[01:35] <phobiac> Konq is konqueror
[01:35] <dawn> use firefox!
[01:35] <dawn> oh
[01:35] <beg1689> firefox
[01:36] <beg1689> or theres always opera
[01:36] <dawn> <----duh
[01:36] <mortici> swiftfox it is
[01:36] <dawn> use IE
[01:36] <dawn> heh
[01:36] <beg1689> i have IE just for those really picky sites that dont let me use firefox or opera
[01:36] <dawn> I have IE installed on this PC
[01:36] <dddude55> use no
[01:36] <LjL> the only web browser that correctly rendered acid2? yeah, sure
[01:36] <wieniu> use the Source Luke :)
[01:36] <dawn> yep
[01:36] <beg1689> yeah, opera :)
[01:37] <dawn> dell is really pushing vista
[01:37] <beg1689> and for most of those pesky IE only sites, it can pretend to be IE, but doesnt always work (for some reason it still sticks "Opera 9.10" at the end of the ID
[01:37] <dawn> I have been trying to purchase PC's sans vista
[01:37] <dawn> and they wont let me
[01:37] <beg1689> build it
[01:37] <mortici> swiftfoxing it up then
[01:37] <dawn> oh I have netter Idea
[01:37] <dawn> *better
[01:37] <mortici> konq can't even go to yahoo music without messing up
[01:37] <dawn> I will just reimage the drives
[01:37] <mortici> let alone apples trailers web page
[01:37] <phobiac> dawn: Dell has PC's sans the OS
[01:38] <dawn> I know
[01:38] <beg1689> dont buy a PC with an OS you wont use
[01:38] <dawn> but the ppl want XP only
[01:38] <beg1689> it adds $100 to the price
[01:38] <mortici> what about windows vista
[01:38] <dawn> I prefer to get XP and refuse the EULA
[01:38] <dawn> its actually cheaper
[01:38] <dawn> the open OS machines cost $100 more
[01:38] <beg1689> i have an awesome XP cd, my friend got it and it works great
[01:39] <dawn> I have a bunch of hacked images of XP
[01:39] <beg1689> no activation, and windows updates works and validation works and everything
[01:39] <dawn> yea
[01:39] <phobiac> They cost more? That's ridiculous
[01:39] <mortici> beg1689: its called a corporate edition of xp
[01:39] <beg1689> i dont think its hacked, i think its a special cd key thats actually doing it
[01:39] <dawn> check out dell site
[01:39] <beg1689> yea thats it
[01:39] <beg1689> not that i use it
[01:39] <mortici> like the enterprise edition of vista that i have :P
[01:40] <beg1689> i dont think ill ever go back
[01:40] <dawn> neitehr will I
[01:40] <mortici> my laptop is primary linux
[01:40] <beg1689> and after using e17 all this time :)
[01:40] <dawn> I have seen the light
[01:40] <beg1689> same here
[01:40] <mortici> desktop dual boots
[01:40] <beg1689> my laptop actually dual boots
[01:40] <beg1689> 100gb linux, 20gb windows
[01:40] <phobiac> My desktop dual boots. I've got Linux and XP.
[01:40] <dawn> I just swap ata-6 drives
[01:41] <phobiac> I actually think XP is a halfway decent OS. Not Linux those.
[01:41] <dawn> XP isnt bad
[01:41] <phobiac> ..It's not Linux though*
[01:41] <rbs-tito> How can I kill my X server to install the NVidia driver
[01:41] <beg1689> and no e17
[01:41] <beg1689> ctrl+alt+f1
[01:41] <dawn> win200 0/win2003 are not OS's
[01:41] <phobiac> I thought it was ctrl+alt+backspace
[01:41] <dawn> ummm I meant
[01:41] <phobiac> No wait that restarts it.
[01:41] <beg1689> that restarts it
[01:41] <dawn> not BAD OS's
[01:41] <beg1689> he wants a terminal im assuming
[01:41] <dawn> lol
[01:42] <phobiac> Yeah
[01:42] <dddude55> umm when i tell flash where firefox is installed it says to put in a valid dest path
[01:42] <rbs-tito> I tried ctrl + alt  + f2 but the nvidia script says X is open
[01:42] <mortici> wth freaking hell
[01:42] <dddude55> wtf is up with that
[01:42] <beg1689> oh
[01:42] <beg1689> you have to kill x
[01:42] <rbs-tito> In gnome I used to do /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm stop
[01:42] <mortici> why is the text in firefox so damn small, all the web pages have tiny text
[01:42] <dawn> kill!
[01:42] <dawn> !kill
[01:42] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:42] <rbs-tito> Whatis the command?
[01:42] <beg1689> i dont know.. i just used the repo drivers
[01:43] <beg1689> in fedora it was init 3
[01:43] <phobiac> mortici: Do ctrl + +
[01:43] <rbs-tito> All the Ubuntu runlevels are the same
[01:43] <dawn> rl 5?
[01:43] <beg1689> when i did my drivers in fc6 i just "init 3" to kill then "init 5" to start it back up
[01:43] <dawn> fedora 6 looks like  decent OS as well
[01:43] <beg1689> in ubuntu i just used the repo
[01:44] <beg1689> it is
[01:44] <rbs-tito> the repo doesn't have the built in AIGLX though
[01:44] <beg1689> excellent 64 bit support too
[01:44] <dawn> hmmmm
[01:44] <beg1689> what?
[01:44] <dawn> I have a large box that needs a OS
[01:44] <dawn> I was thinking win2003
[01:44] <beg1689> you mean for beryl? because i use the repo driver for beryl
[01:44] <dawn> drat the MB dont support 64-bit
[01:45] <beg1689> although since i got e17 i havent touched beryl
[01:45] <dawn> !e17
[01:45] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[01:45] <beg1689> they say pre-alpha but it works amazingly
[01:45] <beg1689> only bad thing i noticed was the lack of some configuration options, but that can still be changed by editing some files
[01:46] <beg1689> oh andi wanted to say, fc6 x86-64 has excellent 32 bit support
[01:46] <beg1689> i installed a ton of software that was said to have problems on 64 bit, and they worked fine
[01:46] <dawn> hmmmm
[01:47] <beg1689> the only thing that didnt work was wine, so i stopped using 64 bit
[01:47] <dawn> i will have to play with fedora
[01:47] <beg1689> cant leave my games
[01:47] <dawn> haha
[01:47] <dawn> what games have you been able to run under wine?
[01:47] <beg1689> warcraft III, half life 1 and 2
[01:47] <beg1689> (and all mods, of course)
[01:47] <dawn> oh damn
[01:47] <beg1689> world of warcraft
[01:47] <dawn> I would love to try HL 1/2 on kubuntu
[01:47] <beg1689> works good
[01:47] <dawn> any steam application as well
[01:48] <dawn> I have to give it a whirl
[01:48] <beg1689> well i only tested the half life engines
[01:48] <dawn> oh
[01:48] <beg1689> oh and roboblitz (unreal 3?)
[01:48] <dawn> well HL 1/2 are fine
[01:48] <beg1689> but that doesnt work
[01:48] <dawn> hmmmm, i heard that doom3 is supported
[01:48] <beg1689> basicall i just have wine for steam and warcraft
[01:48] <beg1689> doesnt doom 3 hav linux native support?
[01:48] <beg1689> same for quake 4
[01:48] <dawn> I think so
[01:49] <beg1689> so dont need wine for that
[01:49] <dawn> I have yet to play with that arrangment
[01:49] <beg1689> and unreal tournament 2004 i have linux native
[01:49] <beg1689> neverwinter nights
[01:49] <dawn> well im out cyas time for dinner
[01:49] <dawn> thx
[01:49] <beg1689> neverball is fun, i have my wiimote setup just for that game
[01:50] <beg1689> dam IRC, i forgot what i was doing
[01:50] <beg1689> i opened a terminal window, opened irc, now i have a blank terminal and i forgot why
[01:51] <mortici> omg im angry
[01:51] <beg1689> oh and if you ever want a laptop, i reccomend cheaping out on the memory and the hard drive
[01:51] <phobiac> mortici: What's wrong?
[01:51] <beg1689> it was cheaper to get a 120g hard drive than it was to upgrade to the 80g
[01:51] <mortici> firefox
[01:51] <beg1689> and now i still have my old one in an enclosure
[01:51] <mortici> the menu text is bigger then normal
[01:51] <mortici> and the web pages have text that is set to 9pt
[01:52] <mortici> no matter what settings i change in firefox
[01:52] <mortici> it does nothing
[01:52] <mortici> is there a settings file i can delete?
[01:52] <phobiac> I've no idea what to do for the menu text but doing ctrl + + makes text bigger.
[01:52] <mortici> yes
[01:52] <beg1689> one of my favorite things in e17 is the app launcher
[01:52] <mortici> but i never had to do that before
[01:52] <phobiac> It should just save like that.
[01:52] <beg1689> if you guys havent tried it you should, its in the repos
[01:53] <mortici> it doesn't :/
[01:53] <phobiac> That's odd.
[01:54] <mortici> i know
[01:54] <mortici> this all happend after i rebooted a machine
[01:54] <mortici> and afaik i didn't do any system wide upgrade
[01:54] <beg1689> so... do you actually need a sound daemon to get sound?
[01:55] <indygo> How can I change my status to superuser?
[01:55] <beg1689> from terminal?
[01:55] <beg1689> sudo <command>
[01:55] <beg1689> or sudo -i to switch
[01:56] <indygo> thanks :)
[02:03] <phobiac> In the terminal how do you install all the build dependencies for a package?
[02:04] <LjL> phobiac: sudo apt-get build-dep package
[02:04] <phobiac> Thanks
[02:04] <dddude55> god dang it lol
[02:04] <dddude55> this damn card is giving me a headache
[02:04] <dddude55> its supposed to be auto detected
[02:04] <dddude55> and it wasnt in live cd or expert install...
[02:05] <dddude55> my touchpad left clicked in live cd but now it onl right clicks
[02:10] <alex777> I'm having some trouble with a sata hdd
[02:10] <alex777> I just installed it and my bios sees the hdd, but kubuntu doesn't
[02:10] <alex777> I have an intel D865GLC motherboard, a WD hdd which I used one of those PATA->SATA devices
[02:11] <alex777> connected to my sata0 port
[02:11] <alex777> and I can't even see it in fdisk
[02:13] <NightBird> how do I redirect error output?
[02:13] <Sanne> alex777: it is possible that the linux kernel has no drivers for your sata controller. I recommend finding out the controller you use and investigate the linux support for it.
[02:14] <alex777> hm, it should be on the intel website which controller it uses right ?
[02:15] <Sanne> alex777: yeah, or in the documentation that came with your mb. But let us try something quick, sec.
[02:15] <Sanne> alex777: do youhave any output from: lspci | grep -i sata
[02:16] <alex777> actually yes
[02:16] <alex777> 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB (ICH5) SATA Controller (rev 02)
[02:16] <Sanne> alex777: so something got recognized. Hmmm.
[02:16] <alex777> yea
[02:16] <alex777> it's not showing up in fdisk -l
[02:17] <alex777> as you figured I'm not an expert so I don't know where to go from here
[02:17] <Sanne> alex777: let's find out if a driver got loaded: lsmod | grep -i sata
[02:17] <alex777> nothing
[02:19] <Sanne> alex777: try to go through all loaded modules and see if you find anything that looks like a driver for your sata controller (any key to scroll the list): lsmod | more
[02:19] <Bxnp> guys i am looking for a way to do invert selections
[02:19] <Bxnp> in kmail
[02:19] <jmichaelx> !beryl
[02:19] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:20] <alex777> Sanne nothing that would like like any sataa module
[02:21] <alex777> libata, ide_disk etc
[02:22] <Sanne> alex777: ok, so the next step would be to search the net, ubuntuforums, phoronix.com (linux hardware site) to find out if there's a kernel module for your comtroller, and what it's name is, and load it manually. Or, find out that there's none (and weep...)
[02:22] <alex777> Intel Corporation 82801EB (ICH5) is my sata controller right ?
[02:23] <alex777> bbl
[02:23] <Sanne> alex777: yes, I would try to search for that or fro substrings of that, and linux, ubuntu, driver, that sort of stuff.
[02:24] <Sanne> alex777: but also look in your mb manual and on the intel website.
[02:27] <Minataku> !mame
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mame - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <Minataku> That's something better self-compiled anyway
[02:32] <LjL> !xmame-x
[02:32] <ubotu> xmame-x: X binaries for the Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.106-1 (edgy), package size 10241 kB, installed size 37724 kB
[02:34] <xenophile7x7> ok, noob question. i just installed firefox on kubuntu. how can i create a shortcut in the K-Menu?
[02:35] <Minataku> LjL: XMAME is pretty much dead in the water
[02:36] <Minataku> You should shift to SDLMAME
[02:36] <Minataku> Want the info on it? Or point me to where I would send such?
[02:37] <Sanne> xenophile7x7: you can right click anywhere on the opened menu and choose "edit menu", there you can create an entry where you want to.
[02:37] <phobiac> Okay uh, when I try to login my screen turns black, the cursor shows up, then I get bumped back to the login screen.
[02:38] <phobiac> Help. Please. :(
[02:38] <Minataku> Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:38] <dawn> how does one find out which kde they are using?
[02:39] <phobiac> It opens, what do I do with it?
[02:39] <dawn> !kde
[02:39] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[02:39] <Sanne> dawn: in any kde application, go to  help/about kde.
[02:40] <dawn> thx
[02:40] <dawn> ok I have 3.5.5
[02:40] <dawn> :)
[02:40] <Sanne> :)
[02:40] <Minataku> phobiac: Read it
[02:40] <Minataku> Look around the end
[02:40] <phobiac> What am I looking for?
[02:40] <Minataku> Whatever's making X crap out should be around there
[02:41] <Minataku> phobiac: An error, look for X11's complaining, if it looks scary and confusing that's probably it
[02:41] <jbruckman> who is familiar with the various torrent clients?
[02:41] <Minataku> If you can't tell, pastebin the last so many lines and I'll take a look for you
[02:41] <phobiac> There's a lot of errors at the end of this.
[02:41] <Minataku> jbruckman: I only have my recommendation of BitTornado
[02:42] <phobiac> Wait, let me type one into here.
[02:42] <phobiac> (EE) xf6Openserial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[02:42] <phobiac> No such file or directory
[02:42] <jbruckman> Minataku: the reason i ask is that I've gotten one to work, and another one won't using what appear to be the same settings. I'm behind a school network, so encyrption works on Ktorrent(which i don't like) and not on a wine'd utorrent(which i like), and i can't figure out how to encrypt with rtorrent(command line torrent client).
[02:43] <jbruckman> i despise the way ktorrent handles everything
[02:43] <Minataku> phobiac: Hm... what the crap is it with that /dev/wacom
[02:43] <Sanne> phobiac: the wacom entries don't matter, they are for a tablet device that's not present, I got those errors too.
[02:43] <jbruckman> and would like other clients to work...
[02:43] <jbruckman> afk
[02:43] <Minataku> Sanne: It's not making X puke and die?
[02:44] <Sanne> Minataku: no, it shouldn't. I guess it's put in by default so people can use it out of the box if present. I would look for video card errors.
[02:44] <phobiac> Okay. Right at the end it says "Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/TTF, removing from list
[02:44] <Minataku> phobiac: That's probably not it either
[02:45] <phobiac> Then it says that two more times, only the directory ends with OTF and ICD
[02:45] <Jucato> welcome back Minataku
[02:45] <Minataku> Wow, Kubuntu out of the box has some stupid X11 errors, doesn't it?
[02:45] <Minataku> Jucato: Thanks
[02:45] <Sanne> phobiac: best would be you paste the whole thing to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:45] <Jucato> Minataku: what stupid errors?
[02:45] <phobiac> I can't paste into pastebin :(
[02:45] <manchicken> Jucato: Whuddup my fellow kubuntuer?
[02:45] <Minataku> You'll notice I said "what the crap" rather than any other more vulgar words
[02:45] <Jucato> manchicken: hellow :)
[02:45] <Jucato> manchicken: got my cloak already :)
[02:46] <Minataku> Jucato: Well, it seems that default installations have X11 looking for various things that don't exist by default
[02:46] <phobiac> I can't log in, I'm full CLI right now.
[02:46] <Jucato> Minataku: ah yes, the wacom stuff.
[02:46] <Minataku> Which puts a load of bogus errors into /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:46] <phobiac> Could it be the "Synaptics DeviceOff called" at the end?
[02:46] <Minataku> Jucato: Also the missing font path elements
[02:46] <phobiac> Synaptic is my mousepad.
[02:46] <jbruckman> back
[02:46] <Jucato> Minataku: not sure if that's just a Kubuntu thing or an Xorg 7.x thing. anyway that was put in there for compatibility with pointing devices
[02:47] <Minataku> TTF OTF and ICD seem to be looked for but not installed by default
[02:47] <Minataku> Jucato: Gentoo and Debian had issues with incomplete X11R7 dependencies too
[02:47] <Minataku> It was a pretty radical change, after all
[02:48] <Sanne> phobiac: can you open /etc/X11/xorg.conf what video driver is in there in section "Device"?
[02:48] <phobiac> I already know, fglrx.
[02:49] <ubuntu> je tu nekdo kdo umi cesky?
[02:49] <Sanne> phobiac: and did it work before, or might this be a problem?
[02:49] <phobiac> It was working fine before. The sections I saw in the log that mentioned fglrx didn't have any erros.
[02:50] <phobiac> errors*
[02:50] <Sanne> phobiac: ok, then it's not that. Back to error hunting in the log then ;)
[02:52] <phobiac> How do I reconfigure X? I've done it before and it's solved a problem I had in the past.
[02:52] <Sanne> phobiac: i believe it's: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:53] <phobiac> Thank you
[02:53] <ubuntu> hi i need help: how i can set in command line: gateway and dns?
[02:54] <the_hammer> has anyone here done upgrade to their kernals
[02:54] <phobiac> How do I stop X?
[02:55] <the_hammer> trying to install this kernal here 2.6.20-rc6-mm3
[02:55] <Sanne> phobiac: you can kill it with ctrl-alt-backspace
[02:55] <the_hammer> anyone here ever done that kind of installing to kubuntu?
[02:56] <phobiac> That restarts it.
[02:56] <phobiac> I want to kill it so that I can reconfigure, I don't think the changes saved.
[02:56] <ubuntu> ps -A + kill kdm
[02:56] <beg1689> what do you need the new kernel for?
[02:56] <phobiac> ubuntu: That will kill x?
[02:57] <the_hammer> just to try it
[02:57] <ubuntu> phobiac: ps -A and find number of kdm and kill "kdm number"
[02:57] <the_hammer> learn new things :)
[02:58] <Sanne> phobiac: or (i think): sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[02:58] <the_hammer> i have a kernel walk through on a web page but im stuck at part of it
[02:58] <ubuntu> je tu nekdo kdo mluvi cesky prosim?
[02:59] <manchicken> Your cloak?
[02:59] <the_hammer> so i take it no one here can help me with installing a more updated kernel?
[03:00] <the_hammer> kubuntu 610?
[03:00] <ubuntu> PS: in new kubuntu 6.10 is possible show cursor? i have now KDE 3.5(run from live cd)?
[03:00] <Sanne> the_hammer: hmmm, you mean from the repositories?
[03:00] <the_hammer> nope i d/l one from the net
[03:00] <the_hammer> 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 <--this 1
[03:01] <Sanne> the_hammer: if you want to compile yourself, I wouldn't know, never done it myself, sorry.
[03:01] <xenophile7x7> Sanne: I just got your reply from earlier, thank you
[03:02] <the_hammer> is it possible to get a newer kernel from the synaptic then?
[03:02] <Sanne> xenophile7x7: I forgot what I said, but you're welcome :)
[03:02] <the_hammer> never thought of even trying till ya asked me about the repositories
[03:02] <the_hammer> Sanne?
[03:03] <Sanne> the_hammer: yes?
[03:03] <xenophile7x7> shortcut for firefox.
[03:03] <the_hammer> see my qustion?
[03:03] <Sanne> xenophile7x7: ah! Did it work?
[03:03] <the_hammer> is it possible to get a newer kernel from the synaptic then?
[03:03] <xenophile7x7> kinda blond of me, i should have thought to try it, but it worked fine
[03:04] <phobiac> this is ridiculous, what is wrong with my computer
[03:04] <yamathan> Oh dear.  :s
[03:04] <phobiac> reconfiguring X did nothing
[03:04] <Sanne> the_hammer: ah, sorry... I doubt you can get a new version, but they do updates from time to time, bug fixes and stuff.
[03:04] <yamathan> Why is xorg spazzing about FreeX86-DRI or whatnot?
[03:04] <phobiac> yamathan: your video card is ATI?
[03:04] <the_hammer> ok
[03:04] <cpk1> phobiac: whats your problem?
[03:05] <Sanne> phobiac: I did a quick search and there were people with a suddenly not starting X who resolved it by (gasp) rebooting... tried that?
[03:05] <phobiac> cpk1: i try to log in, the monitor goes black, the mouse shows up, then I get kicked back to the login.
[03:06] <phobiac> Sanne: rebooting seems to be what *caused* the problem. everything worked fine until i rebooted. but yes, ive rebooted three times now.
[03:06] <cpk1> so then X does work
[03:06] <Sanne> xenophile7x7: glad to heat that (and don't be too hard on yourself for not trying it out, there's so much to learn in Linux)
[03:06] <phobiac> cpk1: yeah, i dont know what it is though
[03:06] <jbruckman> phobiac: actually, rebooting probably didn't cause your problem. usually with linux you break something that you've already loaded, reboot, and when it goes to get loaded on the fresh boot, you broke it last time...
[03:07] <jbruckman> phobiac: just an fyi.
[03:07] <phobiac> ah, okay. thanks
[03:07] <jbruckman> phobiac: so what were you doing before you rebooted?
[03:07] <firecrotch> Anyone know of a decent dock (OSX style) that will work in Edgy? All of the ones I download don't work right
[03:07] <xenophile7x7> sanne: lol, yeah, ive found linux to be extremely easy, although i need some resources on networking.  lol, hardest part for me is breaking the microsoft habits
[03:08] <Sanne> xenophile7x7: yeah, that can be hard, those habits. Took me 3 months back then.
[03:08] <phobiac> attempting to build firefox from source. i ended up getting an error while it was making and didnt see what the issue was right away so i just gave up. it wasnt that important to me.
[03:08] <jbruckman> phobiac: was there anything else you were doing?
[03:08] <jbruckman> phobiac: like the day before, or anything?
[03:09] <phobiac> listening to music
[03:09] <phobiac> nothing that could have broken it. unless updating beryl did.
[03:09] <jbruckman> phobiac: basically, i'm just trying to see what you did since the last working reboot.
[03:09] <jbruckman> phobiac: omg
[03:09] <jbruckman> phobiac: you're using beryl?
[03:09] <phobiac> no, not often.
[03:09] <phobiac> i set it up just to see if i even could. i use it on occasion.
[03:10] <jbruckman> phobiac: either way, you've probably also got opengl set up too
[03:10] <Sanne> xenophile7x7: Generally I highly recommend the kubuntu starter guide (k menu/help) and the ubuntu wiki (in case you didn't see those). Those helped me lots when I needed to know how to do stuff.
[03:10] <phobiac> yes, opengl is set up.
[03:10] <phobiac> afaik
[03:10] <jbruckman> phobiac: k
[03:11] <jbruckman> phobiac: when i tried using beryl, it worked fine, and then one day, i tried changing something, and boom. opengl broke my x configuration, and nothing would work. I had to completely undo the installation in order to fix it.
[03:11] <jbruckman> phobiac: of course, this was NOT fun... you could try reinstalling x from scratch after purgin beryl and opengl
[03:11] <phobiac> Hmm wait
[03:11] <jbruckman> phobiac: but this sort of thing is risky...
[03:12] <cpk1> its sounds like X is working though
[03:12] <phobiac> If I got to another session and startx, I get this
[03:12] <phobiac> Fatal server error:
[03:12] <phobiac> Server is already active for display 0:
[03:12] <jbruckman> yeah, xserver is broken.
[03:12] <phobiac> Minus the :
[03:13] <jbruckman> when you're at the login
[03:13] <jbruckman> did you set it up so you could still boot into X without opengl?
[03:13] <phobiac> Then it says that if the server isn't active remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[03:13] <cpk1> phobiac: it is active though if you dont stop kdm
[03:14] <phobiac> jbruckman: I set it up so Xgl (Is that opengl?) starts seperatly. I have a whole different session set up for that.
[03:14] <jbruckman> yeah, xgl is what i've been meaning. it's just opengl for X.
[03:14] <jbruckman> which session are you trying to log into when your original probelm is happening?
[03:15] <phobiac> All of them. It happens on them all.
[03:15] <phobiac> Failsafe, KDE, Xgl (The one with Xgl running)
[03:15] <jbruckman> your xserver is broken then. can you revert your xorg.conf file to a previous state?
[03:15] <phobiac> Even blackbox.
[03:15] <Candamir> Hi! I'm updating from breezy to dapper using the command-line version. I already edited the sources file, but the last step works by using sudo and didn't work out with my computer... the line is 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' which is the kde version for this line? thx
[03:16] <phobiac> I've already reconfigured my xorg.conf a few times now to try to fix the problem. At least I think that's what sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does.
[03:16] <the_hammer> hey why is when i wanna start a new session and i try to log on as root and my password it rejests me and not let me log into root like that?
[03:16] <yamathan> Oh, might I ask why XFree86-DRI is screwing with my sessions and/or crashing them?
[03:17] <jbruckman> phobiac: did you make a back-up of the file when you installed beryl?
[03:17] <phobiac> Candamir: Just do the lines seperatly. sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:17] <the_hammer> anyone?
[03:17] <the_hammer> hey why is when i wanna start a new session and i try to log on as root and my password it rejests me and not let me log into root like that?
[03:17] <jbruckman> the_hammer: you can't log into root on ubuntu.
[03:17] <phobiac> jbruckman: No. This was a long time ago that I installed beryl.
[03:17] <Sanne> the_hammer: here's info on that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[03:17] <Candamir> phobiac: and will it work with kubuntu?
[03:17] <jbruckman> phobiac: too bad. that probably could have fixed it...
[03:17] <phobiac> Candamir: Yes.
[03:18] <ceritus> is there anyway to get kaffeine to play *.mov files?
[03:18] <ceritus> and *.mp4?
[03:18] <phobiac> jbruckman: I don't know. The problem happened just now, and I installed beryl over 2-3 months ago.
[03:18] <jbruckman> phobiac: well, you could try doing a mass overhaul of your xserver from the commandline... basically remove xgl, beryl, and all beryl components, stop anything using xserver, and then remove that too, and reinstall it.. then dpkg configure it...
[03:18] <XenThraL> Hi, how do I make shortcuts in kubuntu, specifically for folders?
[03:19] <phobiac> Besides, reconfiguring xorg back to previous settings (the only thing changed was the ATI driver) did not help.
[03:19] <jbruckman> phobiac: but that's going to basically make your life very very difficult.
[03:19] <ceritus> is there anyway to get kaffeine to play *.mov and *.mp4 files?
[03:19] <phobiac> ceritus: You probably don't have the right codecs install.
[03:19] <jbruckman> ceritus: have you checked kaffeine's page?
[03:19] <Candamir> phobiac: Thanks for the advice, but still, the same happens => nothing. Do you know what this could be about?
[03:20] <phobiac> Candamir: Are you connected to the internet when running them?
[03:20] <jbruckman> lol
[03:20] <ceritus> yeah, it does seem that i have all the codecs needed but still nada.
[03:20] <firecrotch> XenThraL: Right click where you want to add it, then choose "Create new -> Link to location"
[03:20] <XenThraL> oh so it is link to location
[03:20] <firecrotch> Yep
[03:20] <jbruckman> ceritus: sorry, cant help ya buddy.
[03:21] <ceritus> thanks anyway
[03:21] <vbgunz> vlc 0.8.6 doesn't have a qt interface?
[03:21] <phobiac> What does "Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key" mean?
[03:21] <Candamir> phobiac: yeah, lol. Nothing happens at all, and it doesn't seem the cpu is actually working... :-(
[03:21] <jbruckman> phobiac: no idea..
[03:21] <jbruckman> phobiac: anyway, i've gotta run. good luck man!
[03:21] <XenThraL> uh it gives me a <foldername>.desktop file
[03:22] <XenThraL> I want a shortcut like the examples folder that comes by default in the home directory
[03:23] <phobiac> Candamir: I don't know how to help you. Are you typing in the password when it prompts for one?
[03:23] <firecrotch> XenThraL: That is the shortcut
[03:23] <XenThraL> but it doesnt appear like a folder
[03:24] <firecrotch> XenThraL: right click and it will let you change the icon for it
[03:24] <XenThraL> (and hence doesnt show up on the left side, on the 'home folder' tab)
[03:24] <Candamir> phobiac: it doesn't even ask me for the password. I just type alt+f2 and enter the command, the command window disappears and that's the end. Could I use kdesu and a different command instead of sudo
[03:24] <XenThraL> even if I do that, that won't change the behavior
[03:25] <phobiac> Candamir: Open up a konsole and do it.
[03:25] <firecrotch> XenThraL:  Weird... whenever I use "Link to location" it works just fine
[03:27] <Candamir> phobiac: It's working now. Thank you very much!
[03:28] <phobiac> Yw
[03:29] <lwells> hii all
[03:29] <lwells> running parallels in OS X very nice
[03:30] <kubuntu> hello
[03:30] <jason10> hi there
[03:30] <lwells> can have kubuntu withong a new machine
[03:30] <kubuntu> I-m using Kubuntu 6.06, I-m trying to upgrade to edgy
[03:30] <kubuntu> via vmware
[03:30] <kubuntu> is it possible
[03:31] <kubuntu> _
[03:31] <kubuntu> It tells me E could not find
[03:31] <Jucato> kubuntu: Kubuntu is running inside vmware?
[03:31] <kubuntu> yeah
[03:31] <NightBird> sweet... I just managed to get beryl up and working on kubuntu
[03:31] <Jucato> kubuntu: you need to have 1) and internet connection and 2) the proper repositories
[03:32] <kubuntu> I have all
[03:32] <sweq> hi, why wouldn't my laptop boot on kubuntu if I'm on the battery?
[03:32] <Jucato> kubuntu: first setup your internet connection *in VMWare*
[03:32] <sweq> it hangs at the fsck thing
[03:32] <Jucato> then follow this guide
[03:32] <Jucato> !upgrade | kubuntu
[03:32] <ubotu> kubuntu: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[03:33] <kubuntu> udo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal
[03:33] <kubuntu> this gives me error
[03:33] <kubuntu> I-ve download all
[03:33] <Jucato> what's the error?
[03:34] <kubuntu> ah...ok the error was E>could not find kubuntu
[03:34] <kubuntu> but now it seems work
[03:35] <kubuntu> I-ve restarted kubuntu
[03:35] <kubuntu> and wrote sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal
[03:35] <kubuntu> now has told me
[03:36] <Candamir> does dapper drake for kubuntu have a feature that updrages the distro automatically? (like the update manager in ubuntu)
[03:36] <kubuntu> kubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.
[03:36] <kubuntu> python-qt3 is already the newest version.
[03:36] <kubuntu> so it was a Vmware problem
[03:36] <Jucato> Candamir: Adept Updater, but it kinda doesn't work well for upgrading to edgy
[03:37] <Candamir> lol, well i'll have to figure it out
[03:37] <vn-> hi, why wouldn't my laptop boot on kubuntu if I'm on the battery?
[03:37] <kubuntu> because I need to restart via vmware before wrote that last command
[03:37] <Jucato> !upgrade | Candamir
[03:37] <ubotu> Candamir: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[03:38] <kubuntu> how to install italian language
[03:38] <Jucato> !it | kubuntu
[03:38] <ubotu> kubuntu: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:38] <Candamir> Jucato: thanks
[03:38] <Jucato> might want to ask the guys over there
[03:38] <Candamir> ubotu: thanks
[03:38] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[03:38] <Jucato> :)
[03:39] <kubuntu> I don-t remind what app I must lunch
[03:39] <kubuntu> to install italian language
[03:40] <Jucato> kubuntu: ask the guys in the -it channels. they would probably know
[03:40] <kubuntu> thanks
[03:41] <Bxnp> how can i register a channel
[03:41] <Jucato> Bxnp: http://www.freenode.org
[03:41] <kkerwin> Hi. Having a small difficulty. I used dvd::rip to rip a DVD into an mpeg, but the audio track was separated into a different file. Is there anyway that I can combine the two into one file?
[03:42] <gabrieldain> Bxnp, /msg chanserv help
[03:43] <vn-> how can I know what video driver is actually loaded?
[03:47] <phobiac> I've got a huge issue with X
[03:47] <vn-> how huge?
[03:47] <phobiac> It won't start. I log in and then I'm forced back out.
[03:48] <phobiac> Huge enough that reconfiguring xorg and the last hour of attmepted help from people in this chatroom haven't fixed it.
[03:48] <phobiac> So, is there anyway to completely rebuild xorg?
[03:49] <elyon225> How would I go about executing some script when a user "Ends Current Session" that would end the current session AND start a new one at the login screen?
[03:49] <DaSkreech> You can purge it and reinstall if you like
[03:49] <phobiac> How would I go about doing that?
[03:50] <phobiac> I mean, what's the package/packages name/s?
[03:52] <manchicken> !paste
[03:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:52] <phobiac> DaSkreech: How would I do that?
[03:53] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[03:53] <phobiac> Thank you
[03:53] <DaSkreech> phobiac: sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg --purge && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[03:56] <phobiac> I still get the error
[03:57] <phobiac> "Fatal server error: Server is already active for display 0. If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again."
[03:58] <DaSkreech> What error?
[03:58] <phobiac> Then it says, "Xli: connection to ":0.0" refused by server. Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key. giving up. xinit: unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error."
[03:59] <phobiac> Xli=Xlib
[03:59] <DaSkreech> What did you do>
[03:59] <phobiac> DaSkreech: The "Fatal server error"
[03:59] <phobiac> startx
[03:59] <phobiac> After just removing and reinstalling it.
[04:00] <DaSkreech> No I mean when it all started
[04:00] <cpk1> he has beryl
[04:00] <phobiac> I had been attmepting to build firefox from source with apt-build.
[04:00] <phobiac> It errored out, I gave up because it wasn't that important to me, and I restarted.
[04:01] <cpk1> trust me apt-build did not cause this
[04:01] <phobiac> Now when I log in I get knocked back to the login screen.
[04:01] <phobiac> I doubt it did too.
[04:02] <phobiac> I also updated, but did not start, beryl.
[04:02] <phobiac> I'm starting to think that caused this. :(
[04:02] <DaSkreech> phobiac: sounds like your beryl script or more likely KDE broke
[04:02] <DaSkreech> I think with beryl broken KDE should start
[04:02] <DaSkreech>  You couldn't do anything
[04:02] <hammer2> hey where do i find grub i need to edit the heck out os it
[04:03] <phobiac> The same things happen on every session I try to log into. Blackox, KDE, XGL(Kde with Xgl running, for beryl), even Failsafe.
[04:03] <hammer2> someone tell me?
[04:03] <phobiac> !grub
[04:03] <hammer2> i dunno where grub is but i need to edit it
[04:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:04] <phobiac> See if that helps.
[04:04] <phobiac> DaSkreech: Any ideas?
[04:04] <phobiac> I purged beryl just to be sure, still nothing.
[04:05] <DaSkreech> hammer2: read the link
[04:05] <DaSkreech> phobiac: can you run X?
[04:05] <phobiac> DaSkreech? You mean do startx?
[04:05] <hammer2> says i need live cd
[04:05] <hammer2> :(
[04:05] <hammer2> this is why i want grub
[04:05] <hammer2> Setting up linux-kbuild-2.6.20 (2.6.20~rc6-1~experimental.1~snapshot.8221) ..
[04:05] <DaSkreech> phobiac: No I mean X
[04:06] <hammer2> i rebooted and it didnt change
[04:12] <phobiac> Now I've got a black and white wallpaper and an X mouse.
[04:12] <phobiac> And the screen flickers.
[04:12] <DaSkreech> hammer2: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:12] <DaSkreech> phobiac: So X works
[04:12] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[04:12] <phobiac> DaSkreech: How do I make it stop doing that though?
[04:12] <DaSkreech> I fixed this type of thing before but it really depends on how much paitence you have
[04:12] <DaSkreech> phobiac: Flickering?
[04:12] <phobiac> No, X. I want to go back to the CLI
[04:12] <phobiac> Oh wait nvm
[04:12] <phobiac> And yeah the monitor was flickering
[04:12] <phobiac> Oh, wait
[04:12] <phobiac> Something has changed, doing startx gives me a different error.
[04:12] <phobiac> Hmm, well I've restarted. I'm going to see what happens.
[04:12] <phobiac> Same thing
[04:12] <phobiac> Does X have an error log I could look through?
[04:12] <phobiac> Aww crap, nvm.
[04:12] <phobiac> I'm getting the same arror as before.
[04:12] <phobiac> Back to square 1.
[04:13] <elyon225> How would I go about executing some script when a user "Ends Current Session" that would end the current session AND start a new one at the login screen?
[04:13] <phobiac> Aha, removing that Lock thing in /tmp makes it change.
[04:14] <hammer2> ok heres my pastebin
[04:14] <vn-> where can I set commands to run on Xorg startup?
[04:14] <hammer2> http://pastebin.ca/336574
[04:14] <Jucato> elyon225: I think making a ~/.kde/shutdown folder and putting the script in there not really sure though
[04:15] <DaSkreech> vn /etc/rc[0-6] .d
[04:15] <phobiac> How do I tell how much space is left on a partition?
[04:15] <DaSkreech> du
[04:16] <vn-> yea but say I wanna start beryl-manager..
[04:16] <Jucato> phobiac: df -h or System Settings -> Advanced -> Disk & Filesystems
[04:16] <hammer2>  kernel 2.6.17-10-generic do what do i edit i seen this Setting up linux-kbuild-2.6.20 (2.6.20~rc6-1~experimental.1~snapshot.8221) ..then rebooted
[04:16] <Jucato> vn-: #ubuntu-xgl has some guides for that in their /topic
[04:16] <phobiac> Thanks
[04:17] <hammer2> nayone?
[04:17] <hammer2> Dask?
[04:17] <phobiac> Hmm okay, df -h doesn't tell me how much is left on the partition I'm using.
[04:18] <Jucato> phobiac: it tells you the usage for all mounted partitions...
[04:18] <DaSkreech> vn-: ah then a) ask in #beryl and b) try the startx script
[04:18] <phobiac> Well then maybe that's my issue...hold on.
[04:19] <vn-> kthx
[04:19] <DaSkreech> hammer2: Yes?
[04:19] <hammer2> see my qustions?
[04:19] <hammer2> can ya help walk me through?
[04:19] <phobiac> No. That's not it.
[04:19] <DaSkreech> hammer2: Yeah sorry not really paying attention. What broke?
[04:19] <hammer2>  kernel 2.6.17-10-generic do what do i edit i seen this Setting up linux-kbuild-2.6.20 (2.6.20~rc6-1~experimental.1~snapshot.8221) ..then rebooted
[04:19] <hammer2> http://pastebin.ca/336574
[04:20] <phobiac> Jucato: I need to see how much space is left on my / partition and df -h doesn't tell me.
[04:20] <hammer2> i used apt-get to install linux-kbuild-2.6.20
[04:20] <Jucato> phobiac: use pastebin to show me the output of df -h
[04:20] <phobiac> Jucato: Can't
[04:20] <Jucato> ah no X?
[04:20] <indra> hi..
[04:20] <phobiac> Yup
[04:20] <DaSkreech> Right, Then it should be set as your default
[04:21] <DaSkreech> phobiac: Any otehr computers in the building?
[04:21] <indra> anyone here know how to install "dpkg" package?
[04:21] <hammer2> but when i do uname -a shows the original
[04:21] <BluesKaj> my ktorrent crashed and now it won't reinstall : configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!
[04:21] <Jucato> phobiac: it has no line that says "/" under the "Mounted on" column?
[04:21] <phobiac> DaSkreech: The one I'm on.
[04:21] <phobiac> Jucato: No, but apparently / is mounted.
[04:21] <Jucato> !dpkg | indra
[04:21] <ubotu> indra: dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[04:21] <Jucato> er..
[04:22] <Jucato> indra: right-click on the package -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package
[04:22] <phobiac> Or not. sudo mount / says that it's "already mounted or / busy"
[04:22] <indra> i have installed new embedded linux...but there is no dpkg...no gcc..no make... what can I do?
[04:22] <indra> jucato-- this is not in kubuntu
[04:22] <DaSkreech> indra: What Linux base did you use to install?
[04:22] <Jucato> phobiac: hm.. you know what partition / is on? then do "df -h /dev/partition"
[04:23] <indra> daskreech-- debian
[04:23] <Jucato> indra: um...embedded Linux? then this isn't the place to ask... but normally it's "dpkg -i filename.deb"
[04:23] <DaSkreech> indra: and it has no dpkg ?
[04:23] <phobiac> Is / the same as /dev?
[04:23] <phobiac> Oh wait
[04:23] <indra> yes, no dpkg
[04:23] <DaSkreech> Jucato: indra needs to install dpkg
[04:23] <Jucato> phobiac: for example, if / is installed
[04:23] <indra> sorry jucato
[04:23] <Jucato> phobiac: for example, if / is installed on /dev/hda1, then do "df -h /dev/hda1"
[04:24] <Jucato> DaSkreech: ouch...
[04:24] <Jucato> how hard would that be... :(
[04:24] <DaSkreech> indra: I think that #debian would have more expertise
[04:24] <Jucato> yes... this is #kubuntu....
[04:24] <phobiac> Yeah, it's either hda1 or 2, I thought.
[04:25] <Jucato> phobiac: then do that df -h command
[04:25] <ssmasud> how do I uninstall my TCL which I manually installed through src build...it resides in usr/local/tcl?????
[04:26] <phobiac> It has to be mounted, that's what I'm running kubuntu off of.
[04:26] <indra> kubuntu is debian too... yes, in packages.debian.org, there is an dpkg package...in .deb and in .tar.gz.. how to install it while I have no dpkg, no gcc, no make?
[04:26] <phobiac> But the df -h command doesn't show a / partition.
[04:27] <Jucato> indra: the problem is, we don't have an embedded Kubuntu. such instances needs special Debian knowledge, which probably most of us can't provide...
[04:28] <Jucato> some are regular users too...
[04:28] <DaSkreech> indra: What do you have?
[04:29] <DaSkreech> phobiac: less /etc/fstab
[04:29] <indra> just 468 commands..
[04:29] <ssmasud> how do I uninstall my TCL which I manually installed through src build...it resides in usr/local/tcl???
[04:29] <DaSkreech> Make sure you know which one is /
[04:29] <Jucato> ssmasud: if you haven't deleted the directory where you ran make (or where the Makefile is located), run "make uninstall"
[04:29] <DaSkreech> ssmasud: Do you still have the folder that you did the make; make install in?
[04:29] <Jucato> :P
[04:30] <indra> jucato---ok, I understand..i think just you can help... but thank you for your attention..
[04:30] <ssmasud> DaSkreech.....yes i have that directory
[04:30] <DaSkreech> indra: how did you install
[04:30] <DaSkreech> ssmasud: make uninstall
[04:30] <Jucato> indra: DaSkreech might be able to help you. he seems to know *a lot* :P
[04:30] <Edoilers94> does anyone have a few minutes to spare?   to help with VLC player?
[04:30] <phobiac> Yeah, fstab shows my / partition. df -h doesn't.
[04:30] <DaSkreech> I might not but i can guess :)
[04:31] <indra> DaSkreech-- install package?
[04:31] <indra> DaSkreech-- or install the linux?
[04:31] <DaSkreech> Edoilers94: no to the first question maybe to the second
[04:31] <DaSkreech> indra: the linux
[04:32] <Edoilers94> i have it already installed, but cant seem to get it to play dvd's
[04:32] <phobiac> This sucks. I still don't have X.
[04:32] <DaSkreech> Edoilers94: Did you install libxine-extracodecs ?
[04:32] <indra> I downloaded the image first..and then, just sudo dd if=<imagename> of=/dev/<devicename> bs=512
[04:32] <phobiac> Well, running X works. But logging in or doing startx doesn't.
[04:33] <Edoilers94> dont think so, had a guy from here help install it yesterday
[04:33] <DaSkreech> phobiac: right so X isn't broken it's what X runs
[04:33] <DaSkreech> kdm is working?
[04:33] <phobiac> That's probably what broke. How do I test kdm?
[04:33] <DaSkreech> Edoilers94: do you use adept or the command line?
[04:33] <Edoilers94> the error i get is /media/cdrom0 is a folder, but a file is expected
[04:33] <Edoilers94> <--- very new
[04:34] <yamathan> Okay, XFree86-DRI is giving me Hell.
[04:34] <yamathan> How do I disable it?
[04:34] <Edoilers94> i used terminal to install vlc
[04:34] <indra> DaSkreech-- I downloaded the image first..and then, just sudo dd if=<imagename> of=/dev/<devicename> bs=512
[04:34] <DaSkreech> indra: Woah :)
[04:34] <DaSkreech> what do you want to install?
[04:34] <phobiac> DaSkreech: How do I test if kdm is working?
[04:35] <Jucato> phobiac: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[04:39] <indra> DaSkreech-- of course the dpkg package..i think that's the key to install the other packages
[04:39] <Edoilers94> may i msg you DaSkreech?
[04:39] <DaSkreech> Which other packages?
[04:39] <yamathan> Sorry, my session crashed.
[04:39] <DaSkreech> Edoilers94: Oh sorry :-)
[04:39] <Edoilers94> no worries
[04:39] <DaSkreech> Edoilers94: try sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[04:39] <DaSkreech> I thought i said that to you already
[04:39] <yamathan> Why is XFree86-DRI freaking out?
[04:39] <DaSkreech>  talking to 7 people
[04:39] <indra> DaSkreech-- gcc, make, my Wireless PCI adapter driver, etc
[04:39] <yamathan> More importantly, how can I disable it?
[04:39] <underdog5004> what's the command to view how much space is available on a hard drive?
[04:39] <phobiac> Jucato: That gives me "Starting K Display manager : kdm is already running."
[04:39] <Edoilers94> when i did my upgrades, would that be one of them?
[04:39] <DaSkreech> phobiac: Where is it running/
[04:39] <DaSkreech> underdog5004: df -h
[04:39] <Jucato> phobiac: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[04:39] <underdog5004> thank you
[04:39] <DaSkreech> Edoilers94: Maybe :)
[04:39] <Jucato> phobiac: or try to Ctrl+Alt+F7
[04:39] <DaSkreech> That's what I want to see
[04:39] <Jucato> that's where kdm usually starts
[04:39] <BluesKaj> Ktorrent crashes and won't reinstall after complete removal : configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation...any ideas ?
[04:39] <Edoilers94> ok, well that didnt seem to work sorry
[04:39] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: What's the crash error?
[04:39] <DaSkreech> Edoilers94: What did it say?
[04:39] <phobiac> DaSkreech: session (Display?) 7. ctrl+alt+F7 brought me to the login screen.
[04:39] <Edoilers94> Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:39] <indra> DaSkreech-- any idea?
[04:39] <phobiac> So did the restart thing
[04:39] <indra> Edoilers94-- dependency problem?
[04:39] <DaSkreech> Edoilers94: ah
[04:39] <DaSkreech> !mp3
[04:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:39] <DaSkreech> Edoilers94: can you read the first link :)
[04:39] <Jucato> phobiac: ctrl+alt+7 is usualy Display :0:0, where X first starts
[04:40] <yamathan> !dri
[04:40] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[04:40] <phobiac> Jucato: Then that's where it is
[04:40] <yamathan> ... Huh.
[04:40] <DaSkreech> indra: I think asking in #debian is a good way to go
[04:40] <Jucato> phobiac: yep
[04:40] <Edoilers94> in the terminal?
[04:40] <yamathan> Hey, guys, not to be stupid, but why is fglrx freaking out re: not finding XFree86-DRI?
[04:40] <DaSkreech> yamathan: take that line out of your xorg.conf
[04:40] <yamathan> All of it?
[04:40] <DaSkreech> yamathan: Ah wait put it in
[04:40] <yamathan> Ah.
[04:40] <yamathan> Okay.
[04:40] <DaSkreech> no it needs DRI
[04:41] <yamathan> Then ... Huh.
[04:41] <yamathan> I wonder why it's panicking.
[04:41] <indra> DaSkreech-- ok..
[04:41] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, signal 6 SIGABRT
[04:41] <DaSkreech> Woah
[04:41] <phobiac> So what can I do? Is there a way to reconfigure/reinstall/whatever kdm?
[04:41] <indra> DaSkreech-- thanx 4 ur attention
[04:41] <yamathan> To quote -- "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"."
[04:41] <DaSkreech> indra: If you get an answer and I'm stil awake I'd love to hear what you did
[04:42] <yamathan> But, uh, I thought I had that *installed*
[04:42] <indra> DaSkreech-- OK
[04:42] <DaSkreech> yamathan: check if it's "on" in your xorg.conf
[04:42] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: You did a purge ?
[04:42] <makuseru> what is a good screen capture program for kubuntu
[04:42] <yamathan> Uh ...
[04:43] <yamathan> Would "0666" suffice?
[04:43] <phobiac> Jucato: Do you know what I can do? Can kdm be reconfigured/reinstalled/something?
[04:43] <ssmasud> DaSkreech.....i am doing make uninstall...but its not removing the package....
[04:43] <DaSkreech> yamathan: Lost me
[04:43] <ala> anyone know of a good tutorial that shows you how to convert a running system to raid??
[04:43] <yamathan> DaSkreech: To quote, "
[04:43] <yamathan> Section "DRI"
[04:43] <yamathan> 	Mode	0666
[04:43] <yamathan> EndSection
[04:43] <Jucato> phobiac: you tried logging in? still throwing you back?
[04:43] <yamathan> Oh, sorry for the flood.  :s
[04:43] <BluesKaj> no DaSkreech , i forgotten the purge cmnd :(
[04:43] <Jucato> !pastebing | yamathan
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:43] <Jucato> !pastebin | yamathan
[04:43] <ubotu> yamathan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:44] <DaSkreech> yamathan: sounds good
[04:44] <Jucato> grr I can't spell...
[04:44] <yamathan> Sorry, Jucato.
[04:44] <Jucato> :)
[04:44] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: sudo apt-get remove ktorrent --purge
[04:44] <phobiac> Jucato: Uhhm, no. It isn't. Now it freezes on a blank screen.
[04:44] <phobiac> I guess this is progress...
[04:44] <Edoilers94> no luck still
[04:45] <makuseru> what is a good screen capture program for kubuntu
[04:45] <Theory> makuseru: press your print screen button
[04:45] <phobiac> Jucato: Thank you for your help though. You too Daskreech.
[04:45] <yamathan> Bizzare.
[04:45] <Jucato> makuseru: KSnapshot
[04:45] <yamathan> It claims there's an fglrx section in xorg.conf ...
[04:45] <Jucato> phobiac: sorry couldn't help more... I'm just... um.. confused...
[04:45] <BluesKaj> yamathan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-c966b2cb7c82944d6883f27a2896725db3b90a3a
[04:45] <Jucato> right now...
[04:45] <yamathan> Yet I'm looking at it and I have yet to find it!
[04:45] <phobiac> Jucato: I am too :(
[04:45] <yamathan> Thank you, BluesKaj.
[04:45] <makuseru> oops, video screen capture, not a screenshot
[04:46] <BluesKaj> yamathan, it may help
[04:46] <phobiac> makuseru: The only video screen capture I know of is Istanbul and the one beryl has.
[04:47] <Jucato> makuseru: also try screenkast, but it's not in the repositories
[04:47] <makuseru> !Istanbul
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Istanbul - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <makuseru> is that not one in the reops?
[04:47] <makuseru> repos*
[04:47] <phobiac> Jucato: Okay so I restarted kdm again, and now I still have the kickback to login screen issue.
[04:48] <Jucato> hm...
[04:48] <phobiac> It is in the repos
[04:48] <DaSkreech> phobiac: ok so can you find your startkde script/
[04:48] <phobiac> At least it was last I checked.
[04:48] <makuseru> whydosnt ubotu know about it
[04:48] <ssmasud> I want to remove tcl which I installed from a src distribution in /usr/local/tcl.......i am doing "dpkg -r tcl" but its not removing it...."dpkg -l tcl" shows tcl but it says no description..what to do
[04:48] <DaSkreech> !info instanbul
[04:48] <ubotu> Package instanbul does not exist in any distro I know
[04:48] <yamathan> Just a moment, right back!
[04:48] <phobiac> DaSkreech: The kdeautostart folder?
[04:48] <DaSkreech> !info screenkast
[04:48] <ubotu> Package screenkast does not exist in any distro I know
[04:49] <makuseru> well
[04:49] <Jucato> ssmasud: did you do "make uninstall" as we said earlier?
[04:49] <DaSkreech> phobiac: no
[04:49] <makuseru> istanbul IS in the rops
[04:49] <makuseru> repos*
[04:49] <ssmasud> jucato.....its not working.....
[04:49] <Jucato> ssmasud: what does it say?
[04:49] <DaSkreech> phobiac: which startkde
[04:49] <phobiac> DaSkreech: I don't know where to find that. Home folder? Root?
[04:49] <DaSkreech> phobiac: type what I just said :)
[04:49] <slestak> how can i tell if im using Xgl or AIGLX?  I have xorg7.1 installed, but I see some evidence that xgl is installed.  I am using fglrx driver from repos
[04:49] <phobiac> Okay
[04:49] <Jucato> makuseru: I sadi screenkast isn't :)
[04:50] <ssmasud> jucato..."no rule to make target uninstall"
[04:50] <Jucato> ssmasud: did you run "make uninstall" in the same directory were you ran "make" and "make install"?
[04:50] <ssmasud> jucato..yes
[04:51] <makuseru> Jucato: ubotu said istanbul wasnt
[04:51] <Jucato> !info istanbul
[04:51] <phobiac> DaSkreech: It gave me a few errors, for some annoying reason page up won't send me back up, and the only error I can see is "Can't contact kdeinit!"
[04:51] <ubotu> istanbul: Desktop session recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 380 kB
[04:52] <Jucato> makuseru: ^^
[04:52] <phobiac> Oh and "xprop: unable to open display '"
[04:52] <Jucato> !istanbul
[04:52] <Jucato> makuseru: small letter 'i'
[04:52] <yamathan> Argh!  >: E
[04:52] <ssmasud> jucato...???
[04:52] <yamathan> I'm still getting a big fat "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"." when I go via fglrxinfo.
[04:52] <DaSkreech> phobiac: shift +pgup
[04:53] <phobiac> DaSkreech: Aha it works
[04:53] <DaSkreech> highly useful
[04:53] <Jucato> ssmasud: I'm not sure anymore, because it seems that the Makefile that was produced by "make" is missing
[04:53] <phobiac> yamathan: Is your vid card ATI?
[04:53] <yamathan> Oh yes.
[04:53] <slestak> yamathan: im troubleshooting same error.
[04:53] <phobiac> Okay uhm, I had that issue. I recall something about turning off composite.
[04:53] <yamathan> Yeah.
[04:53] <yamathan> I already did that.  :s
[04:53] <phobiac> You did that? Okay
[04:54] <slestak> phobiac: mine as well.
[04:54] <ssmasud> jucato....I have to install ns2....i am already very late.....its an all-in-one package....so it gives an error on tcl.....can u please help me
[04:54] <phobiac> Did you change the driver in Xorg to fglrx and not ati?
[04:54] <DaSkreech> ssmasud: What kind of error on tcl ?
[04:54] <yamathan> Yes.
[04:54] <yamathan> Oh yes.
[04:54] <Jucato> DaSkreech: can you help... I'm sort of a bit dizzy
[04:54] <phobiac> yamathan: Then I have no idea. Sorry. :(
[04:55] <DaSkreech> Jucato: With?
[04:55] <ssmasud> DaSkreech......it says that variables already defined....or already installed..it exits installation...
[04:55] <Jucato> DaSkreech: ssmasud's problem
[04:55] <DaSkreech> sure go to bed
[04:55] <DaSkreech> ssmasud: can you pastebin the errors?
[04:55] <Jucato> DaSkreech: I'm not going to bed at noon! :P
[04:55] <ssmasud> can u plz give me the pastein link??
[04:55] <yamathan> Aaaaand now Beryl's looking for a composite extension.
[04:55] <phobiac> Oh crap, I think I've found my problem.
[04:56] <slestak> yamathan: i looked in Xorg.0.log and theres some indicaiton that acceleration is working. but glxinfo always retirns that XFREE86-Dri error
[04:56] <yamathan> What the Hell.  :s
[04:56] <yamathan> Really now.
[04:57] <phobiac> So it seems my /home/admin directory is full? I thought the partition I had that on was bigger then that. Hmm, well, time to do some digging and delete some files.
[04:57] <slestak> wheres out pastebin here?
[04:57] <ssmasud> DaSkreech.....I am sorry..i am getting the errors for TK...not for tcl.....when i type "whereis tk" then it say.../usr/lib/tk8.4...i have to remove tk...in order to proceed with ns2's installation
[04:58] <phobiac> I *think* this is from compiling firefox. The source must have pushed my partition close to it's limits. I'm going to have to change the size of that when this gets fixed.
[04:58] <phobiac> DaSkreech and Jucato: I think I've found the problem. Thank you SO much.
[04:58] <arunkale> hey people
[04:58] <mortici> would anyone know of any reason as to why my fonts in my web pages (which were fine) are all a sudden extreamly small, the ctrl+mouse wheel trick works but i hav eto do it everytime the browser starts
[04:58] <arunkale> long time no see
[04:58] <endo602> how can i get kopete to keep bigger font
[04:58] <endo602> nothing is working
[04:59] <slestak> yamathan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3788/
[04:59] <phobiac> When you do rm does it move files to trash or fully delete?
[04:59] <DaSkreech> !pastebin | ssmasud
[04:59] <DaSkreech> Wake up!
[04:59] <ubotu> ssmasud: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Did I just get kicked?
[05:00] <DaSkreech> what was the last thing i said?
[05:00] <phobiac> Wake up!
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Ok
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Did the bot wake up?
[05:00] <phobiac> Yeah
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Ok did ssmasud pastesomethign ?
[05:00] <phobiac> DaSkreech: Does rm move files to the trash or do a full delete?
[05:00] <phobiac> Not yet
[05:01] <yamathan> slestak: I have no idea.
[05:01] <DaSkreech> full delete
[05:01] <slestak> phobiac: completely removes them
[05:01] <DaSkreech>  there is no trash on the command line
[05:01] <phobiac> Thank you
[05:01] <ssmasud> DaSkreech....http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3789/
[05:01] <mortici> god i hope i don't have to create a new user profile :/
[05:01] <DaSkreech> mortici: You make it sound so horrible :)
[05:02] <DaSkreech> ssmasud: What are you installing?
[05:03] <arunkale> I'm getting a new PC, does Kubuntu support Nvidia GeForce video cards?
[05:03] <ssmasud> DaSkreech...I am installing Network simulator2.....it needs tcl,tk,otcl,nam, etc..which it installed automatically...but i installed tcl and tk manually from src.....i have to remove tk now...
[05:03] <mortici> DaSkreech: you have no idea its annoying, that and Konq font is fine
[05:03] <DaSkreech> do a which tk
[05:04] <mortici> but some/most gtk (gnome based) apps are the only ones with this issue wtf
[05:04] <DaSkreech> mortici: What's the problem?
[05:04] <ssmasud> DaSkreech.....tk8.4
[05:04] <Jucato> mortici: have you tried adjusting the fonts in Konqueror -> Settings -> COnfigure Konqueror -> Fonts ?
[05:05] <mortici> Jucato: konq is fine
[05:05] <mortici> firefox/swiftfox is now
[05:05] <mortici> err not
[05:05] <mortici> konq sucks as a web browser :/
[05:05] <Jucato> oh... hm... non-KDE apps..
[05:05] <slestak> anyone know how to verify if Xgl or AIGLX is installed?
[05:05] <DaSkreech> ssmasud: you have two tk?
[05:06] <ssmasud> DaSkreech....no i have only once version...i have to remove it because NS2 itself installs its TK
[05:06] <slestak> and does AIGLX use DRI?
[05:06] <DaSkreech> ssmasud: and make install didn't remove it?
[05:06] <ssmasud> DaSkreech...no make uninstall didnt remove it
[05:07] <DaSkreech> what is still left?
[05:07] <yamathan> Huh.
[05:07] <yamathan> I wonder ...
[05:07] <yamathan> Why do I have AIGLX and GLX both installed?!  D:
[05:07] <arunkale> does Beryl work on KDE?
[05:07] <mortici> arunkale: very much so
[05:07] <mortici> :)
[05:07] <slestak> yes, I am using it
[05:07] <mortici> i use it daily :)
[05:08] <mortici> i help find bugs :D
[05:08] <arunkale> cool
[05:08] <slestak> beryl + kiba-dock is nice with kde
[05:08] <arunkale> I was wondering if I should use Beryl, or something else
[05:08] <indra> DaSkreech-- I have something, but I don't understand..in #debian, someone suggest me to run: ar x dpkg_fooversion.deb; tar -zxf data.tar.gz -C /;
[05:08] <arunkale> I'm getting a new PC with an Nvidia GeForce video card, is that fine?
[05:08] <ssmasud> DaSkreech....there is tk installed .....when I type dpkg -l tk...it shows me tk installed but with "no description"...when I type "whereis tk" it shows me that tk is intalled in /usr/lib/tk8.4
[05:09] <mortici> arunkale: nvidia is easier to get working than ati/intel whatever else lol
[05:09] <phobiac> Holy zombie jesus
[05:09] <DaSkreech> ssmasud: and you are still getting errors?
[05:09] <arunkale> mortici: that's what I thought
[05:09] <slestak> arunkale: i have been pleasantly surprised that some of my ,marginal machines do fine with beryl
[05:09] <ssmasud> DaSkreech ..yes
[05:09] <mortici> :)
[05:09] <phobiac> Jucato, DaSkreech: It's working! Thank you both *SO* much.
[05:09] <DaSkreech> indra: he's saying grab the deb for dpkg
[05:09] <cory_> hey new to here got message on screen saying sound server fatal error: cpu overload, aborting. what does this mean
[05:09] <arunkale> mortici: How easy is it to get Beryl set up?
[05:09] <mortici> my next puter that i build is gonna be able to calculate the interwebz twice over P
[05:10] <DaSkreech> phobiac: thank us tomorrow
[05:10] <mortici> arunkale: if you know what your doing,  i had it setup in under 15 mins after full os install :)
[05:10] <DaSkreech> that way you know it will be workign and we'll remember
[05:10] <arunkale> mortici: cool
[05:10] <DaSkreech> cory_: some sound bug
[05:10] <indra> DaSkreech-- how about data.tar.gz? is it something that I must looking for too?
[05:10] <DaSkreech> cory_: Let me know if it comes back
[05:10] <arunkale> I've been using Kubuntu for close to a year now
[05:10] <mortici> the nvidia drivers (beta ones) are the trickiest part as well as modifing the xorg.conf file :)
[05:10] <cory_> ok
[05:10] <mortici> :)
[05:10] <phobiac> I'll pop in tomorrow if it's still working. Thank you both again so much. I have my computer back!
[05:11] <mortici> then you should have no prob, there is  A LOT of documentation on beryl for ubuntu :)
[05:11] <arunkale> mortici: will i be required to modify xorg.conf? or does it just work out of the box
[05:11] <indra> DaSkreech-- do you understand 'debootstrap'?
[05:11] <DaSkreech> indra: No that will come from the .deb
[05:11] <slestak> the nvidia drivers do an ok job without installing XGL or AIGLX, it
[05:11] <mortici> arunkale: you will have to add 2 lines to xorg.conf for better stability and functionality
[05:11] <indra> DaSkreech-- o I c
[05:11] <DaSkreech> phobiac: you were ircing from the command line?
[05:11] <mortici> besides that the latest nvidia drivers come with aiglx built in so no worries there
[05:11] <mortici> just sudo aptitude install beryll
[05:12] <mortici> after you add the source repo :)
[05:12] <arunkale> cool
[05:12] <indra> DaSkreech-- do you understand 'debootstrap'?
[05:12] <DaSkreech> In my awake state yes
[05:12] <phobiac> DaSkreech: Yeah. Irssi ftw
[05:12] <DaSkreech> phobiac: kudos
[05:12] <DaSkreech>  :)
[05:12] <mortici> im prepping my desktop for a vista install :)
[05:12] <phobiac> Thanks
[05:12] <mortici> tri boot of course
[05:12] <arunkale> I'm actually wondering if I should install kubuntu on the new PC.. I mean I love it, but most of my work requires me to use Windows
[05:12] <mortici> xp, kubuntu, vista :D
[05:12] <phobiac> Right now I'm on a seperate comp, still irssi though.
[05:12] <surgy> hello
[05:13] <surgy> arunkle: whats the problem and what requires you to use windows?
[05:13] <mortici> no personal enjoyment
[05:13] <arunkale> surgy: there's no problem as such, i've been dual booting between kubuntu and windows xp in the last year
[05:13] <surgy> mortici: ok install win xp on a hdd and then vista onn another hdd and then kubuntu last
[05:14] <DaSkreech> surgy: I think he said his problem was his job :)
[05:14] <surgy> oh
[05:14] <mortici> im so agitated by firefox/gtk apps right now, for some reason fonts don't wanna cooperate
[05:14] <arunkale> most of my work involves designing, which i use windows for
[05:14] <mortici> is there any way to delete firefox settings files
[05:14] <Dr_willis> 'designing' :)
[05:14] <arunkale> :)
[05:14] <surgy> anyone know of a good program that i can use to monitor my bandwidth? not control but monitor
[05:14] <Dr_willis> mortici,  remove the .firefox or .mozilla dir perhaps.
[05:14] <mortici> surgy: i gots it under controll
[05:14] <mortici> mmmm k
[05:14] <DaSkreech> mortici: .firefox/profiles/your_profile
[05:15] <mortici> no such dirs
[05:16] <phobiac> Alright, I'm switching over to my now working computer. I'll be back here in a minute to see if I can help with anything.
[05:16] <phobiac> Thanks again for all the help.
[05:16] <Dr_willis> its .mozilla/firefox
[05:16] <DaSkreech> mortici: No .mozilla?
[05:17] <mortici> DaSkreech: i deleted the .mozilla folder
[05:17] <cory_> anyone know how to install ati graphics drivers
[05:17] <mortici> fixed the issue
[05:17] <mortici> just the app it self now has oversized fonts
[05:17] <DaSkreech> !ati
[05:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:17] <mortici> like the menus
[05:17] <cory_> yes
[05:18] <mortici> actually i don't mind it
[05:18] <mortici> its ok :)
[05:18] <cory_> i have video card
[05:19] <cory_> and it is in my computer but linux did not recognize it
[05:20] <yamathan> Hey, how's the BitLord reverse engineering going?
[05:20] <arunkale> uh oh.. looks like it's complicated to install drivers for nvidia geforce
[05:20] <mortici> if i make my own debs and install them, but there is a repo that updates those same debs, will the repo update the debs or do i have to do it manually?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> I dident think Vista had the updated windows filesystem, it got yanked by MS.
[05:21] <yamathan> Oh ho ho.  :3
[05:21] <yamathan> I wouldn't doubt that.
[05:21] <Dr_willis> yamathan,  Im pretty sure that was one of those 'BIG' improvements - that got yanked by ms. :)
[05:22] <yamathan> XD
[05:22] <Dr_willis> No fancy new FS, no DX-10, and somthing else...
[05:22] <DaSkreech> It is a new version of NTFS though
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Vista i hear is more of a disaster then XOP. :)
[05:22] <DaSkreech> There is DX-10
[05:22] <yamathan> As much as I'd like to see the Titan fall, I don't see people switching over FROM Vista ...
[05:22] <mortici> arunkale: no its not :P
[05:22] <yamathan> But, uh, they aren't going to see much migration from XP to Vista until assurances are actually made and kept.  :P
[05:23] <yamathan> *I DO see quite a few people switching from Vista to Mac, though.
[05:23] <yamathan> Oh ho ho!  :o
[05:23] <mortici> lol
[05:24] <mortici> we sell mac books at best buy too now
[05:24] <mortici> and ppl are buying them like crazy
[05:24] <yamathan> They're nice, but DAMN they're expensive.
[05:24] <mortici> i personally don't think vista is no where near ready to be released but they did :/
[05:24] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: how goes?
[05:24] <yamathan> The only way Vista is going to find its way on my machine in the next two years is if Spore is Vista-only.
[05:24] <yamathan> And if it's Vista-only I am NOT going to be happy about it!  >: EE
[05:24] <surgy> someone wanna walk me through compiling and installing from source?
[05:24] <EdOilers94> i sell Macs aswell, have alot ppl return them too
[05:25] <xsacha> mortici: it looked better 3 years ago than it does now.. let them have anymore time with it and it'll get worse
[05:25] <DaSkreech> surgy: What are you compiling?
[05:25] <EdOilers94> hey surgy
[05:25] <DaSkreech> EdOilers94: People expect them to be windows with out viruses?
[05:25] <yamathan> Wha?
[05:25] <xsacha> mortici: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9ifQvQCO7Y vista 3 years ago.. :P
[05:25] <yamathan> You gotta be KIDDING me.
[05:25] <cory_> how do you register in irc
[05:26] <EdOilers94> most find they cant do as much on them
[05:26] <DaSkreech> !register
[05:26] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:26] <yamathan> I mean, even Linux isn't virus-FREE ...
[05:26] <surgy> edoiler84: hey
[05:26] <yamathan> Although it IS significantly harder!
[05:26] <surgy> daskreech: bandwidth monitor from source forge
[05:27] <DaSkreech> surgy: try sudo apt-get install bandwidthd
[05:27] <yamathan> And, uh, for the record, Fedora Core might have a million-so users (according to the official repository's unique-IP logging), but I like Kubuntu/Ubuntu a LOT more than Fedora.
[05:27] <DaSkreech> surgy: do yuo use cli or adept?
[05:27] <arunkale> yamathan: I agree
[05:27] <surgy> adept
[05:28] <DaSkreech> did you search for bandwidth in it?
[05:28] <arunkale> i've tried both suse and fc and i think kubuntu is waay better
[05:28] <xsacha> me too
[05:28] <yamathan> I've been eyeing Saboyan for a friend, though!
[05:28] <xsacha> for a packaged base distro
[05:28] <yamathan> And when I say "for a friend" I also mean me.
[05:28] <arunkale> Saboyan?
[05:29] <yamathan> Yeah.
[05:29] <xsacha> based on gentoo, right?
[05:29] <yamathan> I believe so, yes.
[05:29] <arunkale> Is that another OS?
[05:29] <yamathan> That's why I'm very leery about recommending it.
[05:29] <xsacha> antoher linux distro
[05:29] <surgy> daskreech:Searching now
[05:29] <yamathan> I have ZERO experience with Gentoo.
[05:29] <mortici> xsacha: lol i agree with you after that video :P
[05:29] <xsacha> mortici: :P
[05:29] <arunkale> yamathan: I just did a google search for saboyan, didn't get anything significant
[05:30] <mortici> xsacha: that looked like a PROMISING os
[05:30] <surgy> daskreech: thnx man found it
[05:30] <yamathan> Really?
[05:30] <xsacha> arunkale: cause he spelt it wrong... Sabayon
[05:30] <DaSkreech> surgy: or bmon
[05:30] <yamathan> :s
[05:30] <arunkale> xsacha: thanks :)
[05:30] <yamathan> Sorry, man.
[05:30] <xsacha> arunkale: that was vista about 3 years ago
[05:30] <yamathan> Hey, they cut out the BSOD's!
[05:30] <xsacha> mortici: that was vista about 3 years ago*
[05:31] <xsacha> arunkale: wrong person :P
[05:31] <arunkale> xsacha: that's ok :) btw, you've got me all curious now. what was vista 3 years ago
[05:31] <yamathan> :D :D :D
[05:31] <mortici> xsacha: lol talk about down grading ahahah XD
[05:31] <yamathan> Man, that IS winneration.
[05:32] <yamathan> So that's the old version of Ribbon?
[05:33] <EdOilers94> surgy you busy?
[05:35] <DaSkreech> ssmasud: How you doing?
[05:36] <surgy> edoilers94: i pmed you
[05:38] <DaSkreech> !ati > oneeye
[05:44] <phobiac> :(
[05:44] <phobiac> I'm getting a weird bug in Amarok
[05:44] <phobiac> It says, "The xml transferlist was invalid" then to inform the developers.
[05:44] <phobiac> And my music isn't showing up in it.
[05:46] <silentdestruct> hi i was wondering what graphics driver i should use for beryl. im running intel chipset 965 and graphics accelertor x3000?   beryl continues to crash when trying to run
[05:47] <Dr_willis> x3000 - that an ati card?
[05:47] <silentdestruct> onboard
[05:47] <Dr_willis> You may not get very good performacnce with onboard video. sadly..
[05:48] <silentdestruct> i knew that, i was just wondering if it works or if therse a driver i can use
[05:48] <Dr_willis> so this is an onboard ati x3000 video?
[05:48] <silentdestruct> its not ati
[05:48] <xsacha> intel 965 will work fine in beryl
[05:49] <silentdestruct> h/o ill get the whole name
[05:49] <DaSkreech> phobiac: rebuild the collection
[05:50] <silentdestruct> Intel GMA X3000 onboard graphics subsystem
[05:50] <xsacha> just need direct rendering, AIGLX working (any new distro will have them working from install)
[05:50] <phobiac> Version DaSkreech: I hope I don't have to :(
[05:50] <xsacha> then just install beryl and it should work
[05:50] <DaSkreech> phobiac: takes a long time?
[05:50] <phobiac> Yeah. I lose all my ratings too.
[05:51] <DaSkreech> >_<
[05:51] <Dr_willis> "oh the horrors"
[05:51] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:52] <phobiac> It's not really that bad, but I'd rather not have to do it if there's a way around it.
[05:52] <phobiac> I had all my music rated too.
[05:52] <xsacha> :(
[05:53] <silentdestruct> how can i check to make sure direct rendering is on
[05:53] <silentdestruct> i remember runnign a test and it erroring
[05:53] <silentdestruct> but i forgot what i typed
[05:53] <xsacha> silentdestruct: glxinfo | grep direct
[05:54] <silentdestruct> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90797
[05:54] <silentdestruct> To uninstall Automatix, do the following from terminal:
[05:54] <silentdestruct> Code:
[05:54] <silentdestruct> sudo apt-get remove automatix
[05:54] <silentdestruct> ops
[05:54] <silentdestruct> libgl warning: 3d driver claims to not support visual 0x5a
[05:54] <silentdestruct> direct renderind: yes
[05:55] <xsacha> that's good
[05:55] <xsacha> also means aiglx is working
[05:55] <silentdestruct> ok
[05:55] <silentdestruct> any ideas on why beryl is crashing when switching from kde
[05:55] <xsacha> when you run beryl from the terminal, do you see any error in the output?
[05:56] <silentdestruct> im kinda a noob, whats the command
[05:56] <xsacha> beryl
[05:56] <silentdestruct> :\
[05:57] <flaccid> !mount > flaccid
[05:57] <silentdestruct> killed everyting
[05:57] <xsacha> no error?
[05:57] <silentdestruct> sent me to log in
[05:57] <silentdestruct> didnt get a chance to see
[05:57] <xsacha> hmm
[05:58] <silentdestruct> went black and then logged out
[05:58] <phobiac> silentdestruct: You have Xgl set up right?
[05:58] <xsacha> not using Xgl
[05:58] <silentdestruct> yep
[05:58] <phobiac> Or AIGLX
[05:58] <silentdestruct> its all on auto
[05:58] <silentdestruct> ive tryed it on xgl only, and nothing happens
[05:58] <silentdestruct> it doesnt crash but it wont switch from kde then
[05:58] <phobiac> Log back in and run beryl-manager
[05:58] <phobiac> Instead of beryl
[05:59] <silentdestruct> here it goes
[05:59] <silentdestruct> failed to open device
[05:59] <silentdestruct> a
[05:59] <silentdestruct> DRM_I830_CMDBUFFER: -22
[05:59] <silentdestruct> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[05:59] <silentdestruct>   Major opcode:  145
[05:59] <silentdestruct>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:59] <silentdestruct>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:59] <silentdestruct> Failed to open device
[05:59] <silentdestruct> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Major opcode:  145
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Minor opcode:  3
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Resource id:  0x0
[06:00] <silentdestruct> Failed to open device
[06:00] <silentdestruct> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Major opcode:  145
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Minor opcode:  3
[06:00] <Dr_willis> silentdestruct,  theres no need to paste that
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Resource id:  0x0
[06:00] <silentdestruct> Failed to open device
[06:00] <silentdestruct> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Major opcode:  145
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Minor opcode:  3
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Resource id:  0x0
[06:00] <flaccid> !baddevice > silentdestruct
[06:00] <silentdestruct> Failed to open device
[06:00] <silentdestruct> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[06:00] <phobiac> silentdestruct: Use pastebin so stuff like that
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Major opcode:  145
[06:00] <flaccid> !paste > silentdestruct
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Minor opcode:  3
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Resource id:  0x0
[06:00] <phobiac> for*
[06:00] <silentdestruct> Failed to open device
[06:00] <flaccid> someone ban silentdestruct please
[06:00] <silentdestruct> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Major opcode:  145
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Minor opcode:  3
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Resource id:  0x0
[06:00] <silentdestruct> sorry if thats huge
[06:00] <hammer2> check it out boyz
[06:00] <silentdestruct> but the manager program did open
[06:00] <silentdestruct> sorry again
[06:00] <silentdestruct> sorry im new to this
[06:01] <hammer2> kubuntu 610 edgy here
[06:01] <hammer2> hammer@lappy:~$ uname -a
[06:01] <hammer2> Linux lappy 2.6.20-rc6-686 #1 SMP Mon Jan 29 01:10:43 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:01] <hammer2> hammer@lappy:~$
[06:01] <flaccid> this is not #paste ok!
[06:01] <phobiac> !past | silentmanager
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about past - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <phobiac> !paste | silentmanager
[06:01] <ubotu> silentmanager: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:01] <Dr_willis> silentdestruct,  thats messages because the wacom tablet is configured by default. its just a info/warning.
[06:01] <silentdestruct> gotcha
[06:01] <silentdestruct> thanks
[06:02] <phobiac> silentmanager: Do you see a little red gem in your toolbar?
[06:02] <phobiac> Whereever you have it
[06:02] <silentdestruct> yes i do
[06:02] <silentdestruct> thats what i dont get
[06:02] <silentdestruct> it runs, but nothing happens
[06:02] <phobiac> Click it, tell me what window manger it's set to.
[06:02] <silentdestruct> kwin
[06:02] <phobiac> Do you see beryl as an option?
[06:03] <silentdestruct> if i go to beryl it crashes
[06:03] <silentdestruct> yep
[06:03] <phobiac> Oh it crashes when you choose it.
[06:03] <silentdestruct> correct
[06:03] <silentdestruct> and logs me out and everything kills
[06:03] <silentdestruct> not fun
[06:05] <silentdestruct> any idea why its crashing?
[06:05] <silentdestruct> and it doesnt run a fallback kde when it does
[06:06] <phobiac> Is that option checked off?
[06:06] <silentdestruct> nope its on
[06:06] <phobiac> Odd
[06:07] <d0dge-> What should I use for streaming the whole soundcard to Icecast server?
[06:07] <xsacha> silentdestruct: can you pastebin Xorg.0.log? http://pastebin.ca
[06:07] <render> sooo... i just installed kubuntu
[06:08] <render> i cant login. it wodn't accept my username / pw
[06:08] <render> why?
[06:08] <silentdestruct> wahts xorg log
[06:08] <xsacha> silentdestruct: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:08] <Dr_willis> render,  typed it in wrong would be my guess
[06:09] <render> i have tried, retried, and tried some more
[06:09] <Dr_willis> render,  or the caps lock may of been on when you first entered it.
[06:09] <xsacha> have you ever logged in before?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> or your key repeate is all messed up....
[06:09] <Dr_willis> try logging in from the console
[06:09] <silentdestruct> ok i got it
[06:10] <render> nope, caps lock didnt work. no, i haven't ever logged in before
[06:10] <render> and im completely new to linux so i dont know how to do anuything from console
[06:10] <xsacha> so most likely entered it wrong first time when you created it
[06:10] <Dr_willis> that would be my guess as well xsacha
[06:10] <Dr_willis> thats why i always use 'password' for my password. :)
[06:10] <xsacha> lol
[06:10] <Dr_willis> Darn! now i have to change it!
[06:10] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:11] <xsacha> password1
[06:11] <Dr_willis> wordpass
[06:11] <Dr_willis> xsacha,  those are the passwords we use at work.. we have to change every 30 days.. so password1 becomes password2 and so on. :)
[06:11] <render> i could probably not be any more positive that i typed it right
[06:11] <xsacha> trybruteforcingthishumungousone
[06:11] <Dr_willis> render,  during the INSTALL you may of typed it in wrong.
[06:12] <render> yes i know what you meant
[06:12] <Dr_willis> boot using that rescue mode perhaps?
[06:12] <Dr_willis> but im not sure of the proper way to reset the thing for a beginner. :) i'd boot a live cd, chroot to the existing system.. and use 'passwd username'
[06:13] <Dr_willis> but im hardkore. :)
[06:13] <render> just booted in recovery mode. im at a command line
[06:13] <Dr_willis> try passwd YOURUSERNAME
[06:14] <render> password updated succesfully
[06:14] <xsacha> :)
[06:15] <Dr_willis> now write it down on a post-it-note and stick it on the monitor!
[06:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:15] <render> then?
[06:15] <xsacha> black password ftw
[06:15] <Dr_willis> reboot. :)
[06:15] <xsacha> blank*
[06:18] <Dr_willis> and no password.
[06:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:20] <phobiac> partition*
[06:21] <Dr_willis> you sure its 'music' ? :)
[06:21] <DaSkreech> render: Know how to reboto from the command line?
[06:22] <phobiac> Yeah. I had about half of my music still on NTFS from immigrating from windows and not really knowing what to do with it. Amarok has to rescan my collection anyway so I figure why not move it to my ext3 partition that I have set up for media and the like.
[06:23] <|Daisuke_Ido|> phobiac: what db are you using in amarok?
[06:23] <ForgeAus> ahh much better fstab fixed things
[06:23] <phobiac> Now all my music can be together, and away from any influence from windows.
[06:23] <phobiac> Daisuke: I don't remember to be honest.
[06:23] <phobiac> Let me check
[06:23] <|Daisuke_Ido|> defaults to sqlite, i haven't attempted postgre, but i know mysql is a LOT faster than sqlite
[06:24] <phobiac> It's porobably sqlite then.
[06:24] <|Daisuke_Ido|> i'm just curious about postgre's performance as far as scanning
[06:25] <phobiac> How hard is postgre to set up? I might be bored enough to attempt it.
[06:26] <phobiac> Right now though it's 12:30 in the morning and I'm running on about 4 hours of sleep. Yay for loss of my already short attention span.
[06:31] <render> worked alright. another question, though. why is display resolution maxed out at 1024x768?
[06:32] <render> anybody...?  =[
[06:32] <phobiac> render: Your settings must have been, well, set up wrong.
[06:33] <phobiac> What's the resolution you know it can display?
[06:34] <phobiac> !resolution
[06:34] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:34] <phobiac> Aha, try that
[06:36] <render> er, nothing happened
[06:37] <render> and as for !resolution, it 'could not run'
[06:40] <usman> Samba 4.0.0TP3 Available for Download
[06:40] <usman> can anyone tell me what is TP3
[06:42] <phobiac> Render: I meant go to the link it provided.
[06:42] <phobiac> !resoultion
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resoultion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <phobiac> !resolution
[06:42] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:42] <phobiac> The one at the bottom.
[06:45] <phobiac> Night all
[06:45] <silentdestruct> finally got it to paste
[06:46] <silentdestruct> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3803/
[06:46] <silentdestruct> now whys beryl not working lol, or crashing
[06:49] <silentdestruct> anybody?
[06:51] <DaSkreech> !ati
[06:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:00] <silentdestruct> beryl keeps crashing when trying to run
[07:01] <silentdestruct> everything passes, max res is 2048x2048, no errors
[07:01] <DaSkreech> silentdestruct: ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:01] <silentdestruct> k
[07:09] <ce_tpt_curhat> hiii...
[07:10] <DaSkreech> Shhhh
[07:10] <DaSkreech> sleeping
[07:12] <intelikey> DaSkreech you ran him off....
[07:14] <Jucato> ssshh.... studying...
[07:16] <intelikey> "Shhh       baby's asleep,"
[07:18] <intelikey> SHUT UP! Ya dang fool.  can't ya see i've got a hang over...                  <<<  or maybe that one?
[07:24] <intelikey> anyone know perl ?    what's wrong with this script ? http://pastebin.ca/raw/336725  ???
[07:25] <intelikey> i can't get it to print anything to the screen.     admitedly i don't know much about perl, but what am i missing there ?
[07:26] <|Daisuke_Ido|> i don't know *anything* about perl, but should there be an opening parentheses without a closing?
[07:26] <|Daisuke_Ido|> ($memsources = etc etc etc
[07:26] <|Daisuke_Ido|> oh, no
[07:27] <|Daisuke_Ido|> nevermind, it's closed :\
[07:27] <Jucato> does one have to be root to add a printer?
[07:27] <|Daisuke_Ido|> i wouldn't think so
[07:27] <Jucato> ok thanks
[07:28] <DaSkreech> You just ahve to be a cups admin
[07:39] <mortici> Vista diserves die and burn, burn and go to hell and die.
[07:39] <ForgeAus> nah not vista microsoft.. but then XP isn't so bad
[07:39] <flaccid> vista is bad mmk
[07:39] <cory_> hey
[07:40] <mortici> lol
[07:40] <mortici> it just almost ate my whole hdd's partition table
[07:40] <mortici> that and half of my drivers didn't work
[07:40] <ForgeAus> mortici... thats ok use grub
[07:40] <mortici> its supposed to have 30000 drivers built in thats bs
[07:40] <|Daisuke_Ido|> um
[07:41] <|Daisuke_Ido|> vista isn't bad
[07:41] <ForgeAus> you need 30000 drivers to run a PC? wow! that sounds excessive
[07:41] <mortici> lol
[07:41] <musya> what sort of databases does open ofice make?
[07:41] <|Daisuke_Ido|> bad is waking up and finding an inch of water on the floor
[07:41] <mortici> its for "ease of install"
[07:41] <xsacha> no, but a billion people do
[07:41] <musya> the same kind as mysql would?
[07:41] <ForgeAus> mdb
[07:41] <ForgeAus> microsoft office uses .mdb format
[07:41] <|Daisuke_Ido|> that's xp
[07:41] <ForgeAus> not sure if thats changed in 2k7
[07:42] <ForgeAus> its almost suprising they havn't made an access that does sql instead of .mdb's
[07:42] <mortici> lol xsacha i wish it was like the video portrayed it to be
[07:42] <musya> im talking about open office for kubuntu
[07:42] <mortici> now, now i have nothing but disgust for vista
[07:42] <ForgeAus> (as in from sql server)
[07:42] <xsacha> yeah mortici, but if they did that in this version they wouldnt have anything for next version
[07:42] <ForgeAus> open office? um is that kexi?
[07:42] <xsacha> mortici: idea is sell this one on marketing
[07:43] <ForgeAus> I think it imports databases of many forms, not sure which one it works with natively
[07:43] <|Daisuke_Ido|> vista would be more like...  waking up to find someone has taken an x-acto knife to every cd in your collection and left you a note saying "if you want to listen to these, you have to buy them again!"
[07:43] <musya> ??? it comes in kde? or at least with ubuntu
[07:43] <musya> what type would mysql database be?
[07:43] <flaccid> serious
[07:43] <ForgeAus> personally I dont know why we don't still just use .dbf's!
[07:43] <mortici> bah
[07:44] <ForgeAus> compile multiple ones into a management system... maybe .dbms!
[07:44] <oneeye> hey
[07:44] <musya> how do i change from kde to gnome without loggin out or restarting my computer?
[07:44] <ForgeAus> perhaps thats what .mdb was intended to be
[07:44] <ForgeAus> musya?
[07:44] <ForgeAus> you can run gnome apps inside kde
[07:44] <musya> i know but if want to go back to the gnome enviroment.
[07:45] <ForgeAus> but to switch you really need to log out and log back in
[07:45] <musya> ah,ok
[07:45] <ForgeAus> or run a nested or Virtual machine! lol
[07:45] <musya> anyone know of an good text editing program for kde? like for programming
[07:45] <musya> ?>
[07:45] <|Daisuke_Ido|> musya: vi
[07:45] <Jucato> musya: or create a new user solely for each desktop environment and start a new session
[07:45] <flaccid> dbf what is that?
[07:45] <Jucato> kate!
[07:45] <darthdual> Hey all, I'm having security issues with konqueror.  When I login to my msn.com email on hotmail.com, I have always have to enter the password twice.  The first time always reports that the password is incorrect.  Could I be the victim of a man-in-the-middle attack.
[07:46] <|Daisuke_Ido|> emacs
[07:46] <musya> i dont like kate
[07:46] <flaccid> musya: kdevelop for ide, kate for TE
[07:46] <musya> emacs is pretty difficult
[07:46] <flaccid> kwrite, kedit, nedit etc.
[07:46] <musya> i got kdevelop want too impressed
[07:46] <|Daisuke_Ido|> musya: then avoid vi like the plague
[07:46] <musya> i have gedit
[07:46] <flaccid> lots to choose from goto apt://search?text editor
[07:46] <Jucato> heh... there's no pleasing anyone...
[07:46] <|Daisuke_Ido|> it makes emacs look easy :D
[07:46] <flaccid> i use kate all day every day
[07:46] <musya> il chek out kedit and nedit
[07:46] <flaccid> its fine
[07:46] <|Daisuke_Ido|> kate is actually pretty nice
[07:47] <flaccid> its all much of a muchness
[07:47] <flaccid> and it feels good to be using a woman
[07:47] <Jucato> and most of all KDE development environments use Kate kpart
[07:47] <Jucato> flaccid: baaad :P
[07:47] <flaccid> hehe yeah bit of a joke
[07:47] <flaccid> a bad joke at that
[07:47] <mortici> :D
[07:47] <Phlosten> badoom ching!
[07:48] <mortici> i love kubuntu
[07:48] <darthdual> Anyone here know about konqueror security?
[07:48] <musya> lol using woman
[07:48] <musya> i dont like konqueror
[07:48] <musya> firfox is better
[07:48] <darthdual> musya, why?  Is it known to be insecure at all?
[07:48] <mortici> why does konq suck as a web browser, and media and just browsing in general is overly slow or doesn't work
[07:48] <mortici> i don't get it
[07:48] <mortici> id love to use it
[07:48] <musya> doesnt load some pages like hotmail
[07:48] <musya> freaks out on me
[07:49] <Phlosten> yeah, there are a few it borks at
[07:49] <Jucato> most of the stuff that konqi couldn't load are due to non-standard coding and/or AJAX
[07:49] <Phlosten> i always find myself loading firefox
[07:49] <darthdual> The only reason I use it is that for some reason on ubuntu firefox won't load alot of web pages.
[07:49] <darthdual> nor epiphany, or galeon.......
[07:49] <Phlosten> as firefox has all the neato extensions :)
[07:49] <musya> i use konqueror to search for files
[07:49] <darthdual> Anyone know why that is.........
[07:50] <|Daisuke_Ido|> something's broken
[07:50] <Phlosten> sounds broken
[07:50] <musya> reload it
[07:50] <Phlosten> firebug rocks
[07:50] <xsacha> 'extentions' are terrible imo
[07:50] <darthdual> I noticed that the only pages it will load are https://   web sites but not http://
[07:50] <xsacha> never noticed that darth :S
[07:51] <darthdual> Is there a firewall setting I might be missing.
[07:51] <|Daisuke_Ido|> but "extensions" are awesome.
[07:51] <Jucato> darthdual: hm.. what's the web page?
[07:51] <Jucato> (btw, konqueror has some extensions too... just not as many...)
[07:51] <darthdual> Any page.  Sometimes they load and then sometimes they don't.
[07:51] <xsacha> i've never liked firefox.. it feels bulky and looks ugly -- very slow compared to other browsers i use.     i end up using it a lot anyway (like at uni where i have no choice)
[07:51] <darthdual> But konqueror works for me all the time.
[07:51] <ForgeAus> yay I fixed my dependancy problems
[07:52] <|Daisuke_Ido|> add the bells and whistles *you* want, rather than what the developer thinks you need (i'm looking at you, IE7)
[07:52] <intelikey> what's an extention ?    or extending what, maybe i should ask.
[07:52] <ForgeAus> but still missing ubuntu-minimal :(
[07:52] <xsacha> cant konqueror use all firefox extentions?
[07:52] <Jucato> xsacha: nope
[07:52] <mortici> xsacha: which browser do you use?
[07:52] <ForgeAus> if the rest of the OS works I think I might let it go
[07:52] <musya> firefox has had memory leak issues
[07:52] <ForgeAus> I don't understand why ubuntu minimal is a problem tho
[07:52] <xsacha> definately memory leak issues
[07:52] <xsacha> it gets up to 300MB here sometimes
[07:53] <darthdual> really, memory leaks, that can't be good.
[07:53] <musya> ive had a like 1.3 gigs
[07:53] <Jucato> |Daisuke_Ido|: it's not about what the developr thinks you need, but about who would be developing those extensions and about system security/stability
[07:53] <musya> only if you got a lot of window open and for too long
[07:53] <darthdual> Isn't that an open hole for a hacker to exploit?
[07:53] <musya> like a few days i a row
[07:53] <intelikey> ForgeAus cause it's a meta package that depends on every thing the ubuntu team thought important to a minimal ubuntu system   like restricted kernel modules and the like....
[07:53] <xsacha> i dont have 1.3 gigs for it to steal (including paged), so it hasnt gotten to there for me but i bet it would
[07:53] <ForgeAus> musya why do that?
[07:54] <ForgeAus> intelikey I understand its a metapackage
[07:54] <mortici> what would be a good light weight browser then
[07:54] <xsacha> darthdual: no.. that's extra memory (RAM) thats get used up
[07:54] <mortici> im using swiftfox for now
[07:54] <ForgeAus> but I am feeling a little insecure about the fact that my kubuntu doesn't seem to want to keep it
[07:54] <musya> some people dont stop working, some dont turn off computer. some just too lazy
[07:54] <ForgeAus> I seem to be able to fix things... but I can't seem to fix it withotu sacrificing ubuntu-minimal
[07:54] <xsacha> darthdual: problem in code.. stuff not being freed etcetera.. causes memory usage to skyrocket
[07:55] <ForgeAus> which tends to ring alarm bells
[07:55] <Jucato> ubuntu-minimal itself isn't installed by default during the installation, only its dependencies (afaik)
[07:55] <ForgeAus> Jucato but if its the important core of ubuntu
[07:55] <intelikey> ForgeAus alarm bells ?
[07:55] <ForgeAus> something I've done/installed has undermined it/conflicted with it
[07:56] <ForgeAus> what does that say for my system?
[07:56] <Jucato> ForgeAus: not really sure how important the metapackage is itself, since it's not installed by default anyway. but for the sake of upgrading from Dapper to Edgy, it had to be installed
[07:56] <ForgeAus> IC
[07:57] <ForgeAus> well at least my kubuntu-desktop and now ubuntu-desktop is fine
[07:59] <oneeye> need help installing vlc
[07:59] <mortici> xsacha: btw i love trailfocus even more now :D
[07:59] <mortici> i saw the edit in the source
[07:59] <mortici> i looked yesterday
[07:59] <intelikey> ForgeAus i'd just remove all the meta packages with *ubuntu* in the name and go with it.       errr have.  actually.
[07:59] <mortici> and noticed that the common line couldn't be added
[08:00] <mortici> but rather just needed to add wmType :P
[08:00] <smaggard> hello
[08:00] <xsacha> mortici: yeah well it was simplified
[08:01] <xsacha> (x & y ) && !(z & y)     could be simplified
[08:01] <surgy> hi
[08:01] <smaggard> hi
[08:01] <surgy> we dont get flash 8 do we?
[08:01] <mortici> xsacha: do explain :)
[08:01] <smaggard> whadya mean?
[08:01] <xsacha> mortici: nevermind.. just didnt want redundant code
[08:01] <surgy> also my windows start in the middle of my taskbar instead of to the left
[08:02] <mortici> oh wait durrrrrhhh i get it :P
[08:02] <surgy> well i have the flash plugin for firefox but abc.com says i need flash 8
[08:02] <xsacha> you got flash 7
[08:02] <intelikey> ( x , !z & y )
[08:02] <xsacha> you need the flash 9 plugin
[08:02] <surgy> but i can get it?
[08:02] <Jucato> !flash9 | surgy
[08:02] <ubotu> surgy: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[08:03] <surgy> how do i make my windows open on the left side of my taskbar? at the end of my shortcuts
[08:03] <mortici> im no super code junkie, but wouldn't mind learning as much as possible
[08:03] <smaggard> the new flash works super good
[08:03] <Jucato> surgy: move the taskbar applet? it has a handle that lets you move it
[08:04] <surgy> jucato no
[08:05] <intelikey> if the pannel is not locked
[08:05] <mortici> theres flash 9 for linux?
[08:05] <Jucato> if the handles are not hidden
[08:05] <Jucato> mortici: yep
[08:05] <surgy> jucato the taskbar is in the right place but when i open a window it opens right in the middle of the taskbar instead of off to the left
[08:05] <Jucato> surgy: you might be confusing the panel (the whole bar) with the taskbar (which is just an applet, a part, a component of the panel)
[08:06] <intelikey> surgy right click the thing and configure it.
[08:06] <mortici> jucato is there a deb?
[08:06] <Jucato> !flash9 | mortici
[08:06] <ubotu> mortici: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[08:06] <Jucato> mortici: better, it's in the repositories
[08:06] <mortici> :D
[08:06] <mortici> swwwwwat
[08:06] <Jucato> packaged for you and tested to work :)
[08:07] <mortici> !backports
[08:07] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[08:07] <surgy> ok the panel then, and there is no option for where the applications start in the config
[08:08] <Jucato> surgy: when you hover over the taskbar area, you will see applet handles which you can drag/slide to position it
[08:08] <Jucato> the taskbar area is where your apps names start appearing
[08:08] <surgy> jucato: yeah thats what i thought at first but i dont see any
[08:09] <mortici> Jucato: sweet added the repo
[08:09] <Jucato> surgy: you must have set them to be hidden. right-click on the panel -> Configure Panel -> Appearance -> click the Advanced Options. then set Applet Handles to Fade Out or Visible
[08:10] <oslo> hi
[08:11] <oslo> i'm looking for my krfb logs ..do you know where it could be ???
[08:11] <Jucato> oslo: try /var/log/ or if not there ~/.kde/share/apps/krfb
[08:11] <surgy> jucato: ahhh.... got it
[08:12] <surgy> thnx
[08:12] <Jucato> no problemo
[08:12] <surgy> !flash
[08:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:12] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[08:13] <mortici> i have non free installed
[08:14] <surgy> im not seeing flash 9 in adept and i have backports and restricted
[08:15] <Jucato> surgy: are you sure you have edgy-backports enabled?
[08:15] <Jucato> the one with "edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse" at the end
[08:15] <surgy> jucato: let me double check but im pretty sure
[08:16] <mortici> it should be flash-nonfree
[08:16] <mortici> 100k
[08:16] <mortici> i think
[08:16] <Jucato> flashplugin-nonfree
[08:16] <mortici> yep thats the one
[08:16] <oslo> Jucato> i can't find it
[08:16] <surgy> jucato: yeah right here
[08:16] <surgy> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[08:16] <surgy> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[08:16] <smaggard> all u have to do is download the flash thingy and put it in your plugins dir.
[08:16] <surgy> jucato: found it hnx again
[08:19] <surgy> jucato: abc.com is still saying i need flash 8 i probably need to upgrade now huh?
[08:20] <Jucato> surgy: huh? flash 9 is higher than flash 8
[08:21] <intelikey> hmmm    bash math is very limited...    echo $(((18 / 100) * 100))    should say 18  yes very simple  but bash doesn't do floating point, so how sould you do the same calculations without any dicimals ?
[08:21] <surgy> jucato: i know i installed the package you said, but now its upgrading a bunch of stuff, hold on it might work
[08:21] <Jucato> brb...
[08:21] <intelikey> ah nm  i see it.     echo $(((18 * 100) / 100))
[08:22] <surgy> jucato: its still saying it needs flash 8......
[08:23] <avvie> hiz
[08:23] <intelikey> avvie
[08:23] <avvie> yes?
[08:27] <Jucato> surgy: did you install flashplugin-nonfree?
[08:27] <Jucato> works fine here..
[08:28] <surgy> jucato: click on "full episodes" and yes thats the package i installed
[08:28] <Jucato> surgy: what browser are you using?
[08:28] <Jucato> ok let me try that
[08:28] <Jucato> abc.com right?
[08:29] <surgy> yeah www.abc.com > full episodes
[08:29] <Jucato> what partitcular episode?
[08:29] <Jucato> or show
[08:29] <surgy> lost
[08:30] <Jucato> haha I'm not from the US :)
[08:30] <surgy> lol
[08:30] <xsacha> it says: "Only viewers within the United States can watch these videos."
[08:30] <surgy> it didnt give you the flash 8 error?
[08:30] <xsacha> nup
[08:31] <xsacha> surgy: can you give link to site after you click on one of the shows? (perhaps to bypass US check)
[08:32] <surgy> its before i click on shows actualy
[08:32] <Jucato> ah then there's no problem here...
[08:32] <xsacha> no prob here
[08:32] <xsacha> but i wanna see one of the shows anyway :)
[08:32] <Jucato> roflmao
[08:32] <Jucato> get a plan ticket
[08:33] <xsacha> naah i'd rather get a proxy server
[08:33] <surgy> http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing
[08:33] <xsacha> thats where i am.. ah i see: openPlayer(7);
[08:34] <orient2000> Hi! Anybody can tell me how to upgrade KDE? I think there is a new stable versiom released.
[08:34] <surgy> orient2000: with magic
[08:35] <orient2000> magic!
[08:35] <surgy> whats the command to remove all the dependant files that i dont need?
[08:35] <xsacha> var pagename = "PAGE_LANDING_ERROR_COUNTRY_AUS";
[08:35] <orient2000> what is magic?
[08:35] <Jucato> orient2000: http://kubuntu.org
[08:36] <orient2000> thanks.
[08:37] <intelikey> http://pastebin.ca/336784
[08:37] <intelikey> what i couldn't do with perl,  seemed simple with bash....  i guess it depends on which language you learn.
[08:38] <Jucato> that's why I prefer English :D
[08:38] <intelikey> tobe haenglesh
[08:39] <intelikey> or yeah...
[08:40] <orient2000> New KDE is for Edgy but I have Kubuntu 6.06.  Is it going to work?
[08:41] <Jucato> orient2000: ah no...
[08:41] <bele> no - it's only for edgy
[08:41] <Jucato> you'd have to wait a bit to see if there will be a 3.5.6 for Dapper
[08:41] <orient2000> Thanks.
[08:42] <surgy> kewl so should i wait on feisty to come out before i get the new kde? or should i go ahead and get it? will it be on feisty-update?
[08:42] <Jucato> surgy: are you on edgy?
[08:43] <surgy> jucato: yes 6.10
[08:43] <Jucato> surgy: then you can upgrade to KDE 3.5.6 without upgrading to Edgy
[08:43] <Jucato> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[08:43] <surgy> jucato: im allready edgy
[08:43] <Jucato> er I meant upgrading to feisty
[08:45] <surgy> jucato: but feisty is comming out in april right?
[08:45] <surgy> jucato: and if the new kde is on it then i can wait
[08:46] <surgy> jucato: and i only need one of those mirrors right?
[08:48] <surgy> ?
[08:54] <yuriy> surgy: yes you just need one mirror
[08:55] <surgy> thanks
[08:57] <kraut> moin
[09:01] <ForgeAus> ok how do I get kicker to show back up again (its running still it just doesn't unhide itself for some reason)
[09:01] <ForgeAus> I wish I still had settings on my kmenu... I can show it from there
[09:10] <Steven_M> hi all
[09:10] <intelikey> Steven_M
[09:12] <[StingRay] > Hi. Are there other ways than setxkbmap and xmodmap, that one can use to change keyboard layouts?
[09:14] <intelikey> the kde pointy clicky thingy ?
[09:15] <intelikey> and setting the locales ?
[09:15] <underdog5004> whoa, kaffeine just crashed after I tried to skip back through some files that it was accessing remotely (not _those_ files, audio files stored on my local server). When I tried to skip back, kaffeine froze, then I did a killall kaffeine...now I get a error 11? I don't know much...here's the debugging stuff..        http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3805/
[09:16] <underdog5004> The application kaffeine player crashed and caused the signal 11 [SigSeGv]
[09:17] <intelikey> !bug
[09:17] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[09:17] <underdog5004> intelikey, bummer, hoped it was a quickfix
[09:22] <intelikey> underdog5004 there may be.  i don't use the gui much.   but if you do find a bug, report it.
[09:23] <underdog5004> ok
[09:23] <underdog5004> gonna restart my computer first...for the first time in 2 weeks...
[09:27] <underdog5004> intelikey, hmmm, a restart did it...
[09:27] <underdog5004> wonder what _that_ was all about...
[09:30] <Steven_M> how do make edgy go on standby from the console?
[09:31] <makuseru> hello, when i try to start a program it wont run, and if i try to launch it from a terminal i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3806/ can someone please help me figure out got to get it to run
[09:39] <intelikey> what the krap am i missing here ?
[09:39] <intelikey> echo "${mem[0] } - ${mem[1] } - ${mem[2] } - ${mem[3] }"
[09:39] <intelikey><PHONE_NUMBER>72 1388 20480 -  -  -
[09:39] <intelikey> why does it move the  dashes to the end ?
[09:39] <intelikey> wait.  i may know.
[09:40] <Jucato> $( ) ?
[09:40] <intelikey> testing...
[09:41] <intelikey> Jucato ?
[09:41] <Jucato> nvm me
[09:41] <Jucato> I just though $(mem[0] )
[09:41] <Jucato> thought*
[09:42] <intelikey> ok i found out why my problem...  but don't yet know the answer.
[09:42] <makuseru> hello, when i try to start a program it wont run, and if i try to launch it from a terminal i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3806/ can someone please help me figure out got to get it to run
[09:45] <intelikey> makuseru install gconf ?
[09:45] <makuseru> yes
[09:46] <MistaED> hey, would anyone know what's up with my kde? i've got edgy 64-bit and i keep hearing some insanely annoying sound now and again when an event happens, that and guidance/the xorg config fails to load
[09:57] <Steven_M> how do make edgy go on standby from the console?
[09:57] <intelikey> suspend ?
[09:58] <Steven_M> intelikey: yep
[09:59] <Xemanth> my acer 5024wlmi suspends nicely but  never wakes up :D
[09:59] <Xemanth> Steven_M: suspend1 or suspend2 ? :)
[10:00] <Xemanth> http://www.suspend2.net/features
[10:00] <Xemanth> http://www.suspend2.net/HOWTO-3.html#ss3.2
[10:01] <mike__> is ubuntu and kubuntu repositories the same?
[10:01] <Jucato> mike__: yes
[10:01] <Steven_M> Xemanth: what's the difference?
[10:01] <mike__> thanx
[10:01] <Xemanth> Steven_M: suspend2 is much improved
[10:01] <Russell-> i have a problem... can anyone help?
[10:02] <Russell-> i changed my ISP today, now internet is working on Windows, but not on Kubuntu 6.06
[10:04] <Russell-> what might be the problem?
[10:09] <Steven_M> Xemanth: what about hibernation?
[10:12] <intelikey> ha   pay dirt.     i found it.
[10:13] <fernando> I have problem with my Nvidia drivers
[10:13] <fernando> If I install it the process is correct
[10:14] <Phlosten> intelikey: what did you find?
[10:14] <fernando> considering that the drivers need to compile again the drivers because not precompile exist for the kernel of kubuntu 6.10
[10:15] <intelikey> Phlosten the all bash way to get the info out of a variable that i want      without  external commands like cut and tr
[10:15] <fernando> I start the X server.. and everything work just fine... including direc rendering
[10:16] <fernando> but, if I restart the system... then I get the problem..that the drivers are for a diferent kernel.., nevertheless after I restart everthiny work just fine
[10:16] <intelikey> it was very simple as i knew it would be.    i was using  var="blah blah"    but needed  var=(blah blah)       "arrays"
[10:16] <fernando> If I install the drivers again everything work just fine again
[10:17] <fernando> someone can halp mi with that??
[10:18] <intelikey> !ati | fernando
[10:18] <ubotu> fernando: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:18] <intelikey> if it's not there i can't help you ....
[10:20] <premier_> hey guys, does anyone here know about mencoder?
[10:20] <premier_> !mencoder
[10:20] <ubotu> mencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3171 kB, installed size 7956 kB
[10:21] <Steven_M> how do make edgy go on hibernate from the console?
[10:25] <ubuntu> hello
[10:25] <bxnp> what are you doing ubuntu
[10:25] <ubuntu> i just booted up with kubuntu 6.10 live cd on vmware
[10:25] <bxnp> go back to the right channel oh and
[10:26] <ubuntu> it says kmix not found the mix is installed and running by default
[10:26] <bxnp> how is it running
[10:26] <intelikey> Steven_M did you even look at the url that xemanth gave you ?
[10:26] <intelikey>  http://www.suspend2.net/HOWTO-3.html#ss3.2
[10:26] <intelikey> !hibernate
[10:26] <ubotu> hibernate: smartly puts your computer to sleep (suspend to RAM or disk). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.91-2 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB
[10:26] <Phlosten> dkhan: vmware doesn't share your audio device by default
[10:27] <dkhan> bxnp everything else is fine and except i can't hear any sounds
[10:27] <dkhan> phlosten how do fix that
[10:27] <Phlosten> dkhan: shut down ubuntu, then in vmware edit the virtual machine setting and add an audio device to it
[10:28] <dkhan> phlosten thx i will try
[10:28] <dkhan> brb
[10:34] <jcmeliton> hi
[10:34] <zorglu_> !info dbus-monitor
[10:34] <ubotu> Package dbus-monitor does not exist in any distro I know
[10:34] <jcmeliton> anybody knows any program similar to spacemonger for windows?
[10:35] <dkhan> alright it worked thx guys
[10:36] <dkhan> now one more prob when i boot from the cd on my dell inspiron xps it freezez anywork around that
[10:36] <dkhan> plus how do install network card drivers using the lspci or somthing can anybody give me a link for the tutorial
[10:39] <dkhan> hello...
[10:39] <zorglu_> this channel apparently died between sep06 and now
[10:40] <dkhan> so where can us noobs get help now
[10:41] <jcmeliton> I find it KDirStat
[10:41] <intelikey> !wifi | dkhan
[10:41] <ubotu> dkhan: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:41] <intelikey> !network
[10:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:41] <zorglu_> dkhan: dunno
[10:41] <zorglu_> !dbus
[10:42] <ubotu> dbus: simple interprocess messaging system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.93-0ubuntu3.1 (edgy), package size 312 kB, installed size 660 kB
[10:42] <zorglu_> hehe :)
[10:42] <zorglu_> the simple make me think of the snmp simple :)
[10:42] <intelikey> !botsnack
[10:42] <ubotu> Yum!
[10:42] <dkhan> ubotu how do i edit the    boot options so my dell xps won't ffffreeze on live boot
[10:42] <mike__> is it safe to upgrade to fiesty? or its still a buggy version?
[10:43] <intelikey> !bot | dkhan
[10:43] <ubotu> dkhan: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:43] <zorglu_> mike__: it is develepoement so expect bug
[10:44] <intelikey> !fiesty | mike__
[10:44] <ubotu> mike__: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[10:44] <mike__> zorglu: thanx ill tire it out
[10:47] <zorglu_> !edgy
[10:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[10:47] <zorglu_> the edgy upgrade page is gnome only
[10:47] <intelikey> dkhan but as per the question how to edit the boot options,  sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:47] <zorglu_> and dont recommend apt-get, while the page for kubuntu do use apt-get :)
[10:49] <intelikey> zorglu_ clean install is probably less problematic on that upgrade.
[10:49] <intelikey> !upgrade
[10:49] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[10:49] <zorglu_> intelikey: yep but i use this box :)
[10:50] <zorglu_> intelikey: this page give stuff about apt-get, and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades this one say 'apt-get is dangerous'
[10:50] <intelikey> the upgrade from dapper to edgy is dangerous.
[10:50] <intelikey> your point ?
[10:50] <larson9999> i upgraded and it went smoothly.  but clean install seems to be the prevailing wisdom.  actually, i did a clean install on a different machine and lots of things changed i couldn't figure out to get back.  like things in various system setup tools
[10:51] <zorglu_> ah ok
[10:51] <zorglu_> ah ok i was under the impression it was supported to upgrade
[10:51] <larson9999> i always do an upgrade.  see how it goes and then if i don't like it do a clean install.  but i have plenty of time :)
[10:52] <zorglu_> is the issue will be fixed for edgy->feisty ?
[10:52] <intelikey> technally it is supported.
[10:52] <intelikey> it's also been a common topic of discussion in here  "help i upgraded and now nothing works"   kind of thing.
[10:53] <larson9999> intelikey: but id 'dangerous' the right word?
[10:53] <intelikey> edgy to feisty will be smoother yes it's a minor upgrade dapper to edgy is a major upgrade.
[10:53] <zorglu_> so the issue will be fixed for edgy->feisty ?
[10:54] <zorglu_> hmm ok so i will keep dapper :)
[10:54] <zorglu_> a full install is like 3-5 day of work :)
[10:54] <intelikey> it's not an "issue"  it's lots of little issues combined into a huge bug.
[10:54] <zorglu_> having other disk etc...
[10:54] <zorglu_> hehe :)
[10:55] <zorglu_> well some considere being dangerous to upgrade as an issue :)
[10:56] <intelikey> it's a very dangerous thing for me to start typing in a console ....
[10:56] <intelikey> and extreemly dangerous if it's a root console  :)
[10:57] <zorglu_> oh i see
[10:57] <zorglu_> ok where can i get info about upgrading ?
[10:57] <larson9999> thing is, it takes about the same to clean install as upgrade.  anyway, i'm here to tell you this time around i upgraded vs clean installed 3 out of 4 machines.  and the one i'm the least happy with is the clean install.