[00:00] <SonikkuAmerica> ikonia: I see.
[00:00] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, can we use virtualization within wine, to mount the ISO to a virtual CD and from there install it to the internal harddrive, I remember trying that once on a windows 7 before, when they were releasing the Candidate release for windows8, and I alreaded downloaded the windows 8 ISO and I used a virtual CD I think CLoneZilla or something like it, and I mounted a CD and then installed to a harddrive
[00:00] <samuelcecilio> what is the most stable version of ubuntu server? someone help me?
[00:01] <iceroot> samuelcecilio: 12.04
[00:01] <roothorick> redheat: Wine doesn't do what you think it does. It's more of a Windows simulator, it operates at a much higher level than virtualization software (e.g. VirtualBox)
[00:01] <SonikkuAmerica> ikonia, redheat: Would something like YUMI work in Wine? (Just asking)
[00:01] <iceroot> samuelcecilio: maybe 10.04 is more stable then 12.04 but i would recommend 12.04 for a new installation
[00:01] <anew> how are you guys seeing your gui remotely? i know i can do command line with putty, but gui ?
[00:02] <redheat> I swear, I was asking myself the same question SonikkuAmerica, when I came across someone talking about using Yumi, I mean does it?
[00:02] <ssorg> k1l: I'm on a 3.2 kernel, is it possible to update the drivers without the kernel upgrade? This system is very old an needs a lot of updates, I'm just seeing if I can get the video drivers updated (if it is possible)
[00:02] <roothorick> anew: assuredly some form of VNC
[00:02] <iceroot> anew: rdesktop, vnc, teamviewer, xforwarding with ssh
[00:02] <SonikkuAmerica> !10.04 | iceroot, samuelcecilio, be forewarned
[00:02] <samuelcecilio> thank you... iceroot
[00:02] <k1l> ssorg: which ubuntu? which videocard?
[00:02] <redheat> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[00:03] <redheat> ok I
[00:03] <redheat> ok I'll give it a try
[00:03] <anew> some form = ... can yo uguys recomend one ?
[00:04] <ssorg> k1l: Ubuntu 12.04 and the card is an integrated Intel 945GM
[00:04] <roothorick> anew: honestly, remote CLI is much more reliable, I *ONLY* use VNC with Windows hosts
[00:05] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, can I install Yumi to a partition on my External drive, cause it seems it's kind of space-hungry and it wipes out all the drive?
[00:05] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: NO (unless you mean on the virtual C: drive Wine creates on your Ubuntu drive)
[00:05] <anew> roothorick yes but problem is i have to use an app with gui... vnc = realvnc? or is there another one ?
[00:06] <roothorick> anew: the quick and dirty answer is to use SSH's X forwarding feature. Keep in mind this requires your local machine to be running a real X server
[00:06] <roothorick> anew: but if it's something you'll be doing regularly, I strongly recommend finding a CLI way to do it
[00:06] <k1l> ssorg: ok, im not an intel expert. but i would not recommend to update the drivers if there is no need for it like a bug.
[00:07] <Synx|hm> Need some networking help, i need a way to create seperate external routes, i have two nic's on two different subnets, both have access to the internet but one via a VPN, problem is i can only have one <IP_ADDRESS> gate way route, i need some traffic to traverse the VPN and others my local internet gateway
[00:07] <anew> hmm cli not possiblewith firefox i dont think?
[00:07] <samuelcecilio> can i use SNA/GLAMOR at the same time?
[00:07] <roothorick> anew: Firefox!? Why Firefox?
[00:07] <anew> roothorick i have to use it with the script i created
[00:07] <k1l> anew: you can forward programs with ssh -X
[00:08] <Korejora> @histo: OK, it refused to work with any archive programs, because the archive within the archive within the archive was secretly not an archive or something, but for some reason using tar on the main archive worked.
[00:08] <roothorick> anew: better idea. Use SSH's proxying stuff and point Firefox on your local machine to it
[00:08] <anew> firefox on my local machine... cant do that, i'm testing on my local machine
[00:08] <roothorick> anew: man ssh, specifically the -L switch
[00:08] <Korejora> @histo: do you have time to help me with the rest?
[00:09] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, Yumi is running flawlessly under wine on my system,
[00:09] <Mo0O> hi
[00:09] <zykotick9> anew: for ssh's xforwarding, you need an xserver running on your local computer.  i assume your on windows, i hear it's possible - but wouldn't have the foggiest idea how.
[00:09] <ssorg> k1l: I wanted to see if I could get steam working on this box, but I get an error about not-up-to-date drivers (or incompatable video card). I wanted to update the drivers to rule out the possibility. I don't plan to continue using it on this box, but I figured I would try. Most of my other linux boxes are headless servers; except one, but I wouldn't want steam on it.
[00:09] <SonikkuAmerica> anew, zykotick9: Xming
[00:10] <anew> zykotick9: ok so i have to have an xserver running locally and xforward
[00:10] <anew> xming will look at that
[00:10] <SonikkuAmerica> anew, zykotick9: Or, if you wish for a broader set of Linux tools on Windows, check out Cygwin.
[00:10] <jdukiet> I am running a wubi install of ubuntu 12.0.4 LTS and would like to import my music from my windows user account to rythmbox. Somehow I was able to access it with a prior search, but have not been able to reproduce it. If this is not a proper question for this channel, can someone direct me to where I may find some help?
[00:10] <roothorick> anew: so something like ssh -L <IP_ADDRESS>:8080:productionservers_hostname:80 and then point firefox to <IP_ADDRESS>:8080
[00:10] <anew> ah yes i think cygwin is the answer
[00:10] <bunjee_> what program has css encrypted software?
[00:10] <anew> what's better cygwin or xming?
[00:10] <SonikkuAmerica> anew: If you use Xming, <IP_ADDRESS> is the last free version. 7+ are donate-only
[00:11] <roothorick> anew: Firefox will be VERY VERY SLOW over X forwarding, FYI
[00:11] <redheat> now it is giving me the option to create Windows 7/8 installer
[00:11] <redheat> and it gave me the option to use the C, like you said the virtual drive, now What?
[00:11] <roothorick> anew: I really think -L is the way to go, unless there's multiple servers involved
[00:11] <anew> roothorick i mean i have to run firefox on my away machine, but control it locally, is this correct?
[00:11] <SonikkuAmerica> anew: I've used both, and both work quite well. Only one small hitch with Cygwin: If you want X11 forwarding, you'll need Xwin as well.
[00:11] <roothorick> anew: why does it have to be REMOTE firefox? Why can't you connect local firefox to the remote side?
[00:11] <SonikkuAmerica> anew: It typically comes with Cygwin though.
[00:12] <Mo0O> I'm following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch but at this step https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch#Cleanup_the_ChRoot_Environment I've got no /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.**-**-generic in the chroot environement, anyone know why ?
[00:12] <anew> roothorick connect local firefox to the remote = use my firefox on the remote machine correct ?
[00:12] <Snowie> Hi all. I have Plex, and I want to create a link between a folder I have created /PlexShare from /home/$USER/Videos including all subfolders and files. Could someone tell me if this should be hard/soft link and the best way to go about it. Will this get around permission problems from $USER to root?
[00:12] <roothorick> anew: sort of. Firefox would be running locally but connecting to a tunnel set up by SSH that forwards out to the remote machine
[00:13] <anew> i see
[00:13] <anew> hmmm
[00:14] <roothorick> anew: I think I'd need to know more about what you're connecting to. What kind of script is this and where is it hosted?
[00:14] <ssorg> k1l: Would you still reccommend I leave the drivers as is, or should I do a full sytem update?
[00:14] <anew> roothorick maybe i'm very confused.  can i login with putty, boot lubuntu, then relogin with putty again and start my script ?
[00:14] <ssorg> k1l: There isn't any valuable infomation on this box; I mostly use it as a testbed for different distros
[00:15] <roothorick> anew: what kind of script is it and how do you run it?
[00:15] <k1l> ssorg: hmm, i dont know if it is worth a try for a game that maybe wont run well anways
[00:15] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, when I tried to use the C: drive it said it contains, system 32, and then there's another partition called Z with a backward slash \, could that be pointing to Filesystem , and then there's my ubuntu directory, home\redhea
[00:15] <anew> roothorick perl script, i run it from cli, but it uses gui (firefox)
[00:15] <roothorick> anew: so you run it in a terminal window, and then point firefox to it?
[00:16] <anew> well
[00:16] <anew> i will give it a shot
[00:17] <roothorick> anew: let me double check something real quick
[00:17] <anew> ok
[00:17] <Mo0O> I've no initrd too ...
[00:17] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Assuming you downloaded the YUMI .exe...
[00:17] <anew> honestly i am probably just overthinking the hell out of this and can just log in with putty and run ff that way
[00:18] <redheat> yeah I did, and I"m using it right now, just thinking which drive partition to use, obviously it is Z
[00:18] <roothorick> anew: on the local machine: ssh -L <IP_ADDRESS>:64008:<IP_ADDRESS>:80 scriptmachine
[00:18] <anew> ok let me copy that
[00:18] <roothorick> anew: replace 80 with whatever port the script listens on if necessary. Then run the script inside that SSH session. Point Firefox on the local machine to http://<IP_ADDRESS>:64008
[00:18] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: No, install it to the C: drive.
[00:19] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: The Z: drive is the root dir for Ubuntu.
[00:19] <redheat> I tried and it said a filesystem exists and it refused..
[00:19] <roothorick> anew: SSH will forward <IP_ADDRESS>:64008 to the script running on the remote machine through its own built-in tunnel
[00:19] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: One sec...
[00:19] <redheat> I thought so, but it turned out it's an empty directory, cause I added a new drive partiton called D: it gave me the same sign D\..
[00:19] <redheat> take your time
[00:20] <anew> ok roothorick thanks a lot for all the help
[00:20] <anew> great channel
[00:21] <cordyceps> anybody been able to dual boot ubuntu and freebsd?
[00:21] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Check this: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=24935 <<< it's from Fedora 14 and Wine 1.3 but I assume limitation were never fixed.
[00:21] <roothorick> anew: keep in mind the tunnel is only kept up as long as that shell session is still open
[00:21] <SonikkuAmerica> *the limitations
[00:23] <redheat> one more think check this image out: [url=http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=11696][img]http://imgbin.org/images/thumbs/ext11696.png[/img][/url]
[00:23] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica check this one out: [url=http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=11696][img]http://imgbin.org/images/thumbs/ext11696.png[/img][/url]
[00:23] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: I can't click that.
[00:24] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: STOP! Check your hard drives!!
[00:24] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Click "No"
[00:25] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Then open a terminal and type [ winecfg ]
[00:25] <redheat> yeah, I no..
[00:25] <redheat> I know, sorry, that's why I didn't press anything
[00:26] <pblarry49> I'm using Mythtv 0.26 mythbuntu 12.04 with multiple hdhomerun tuners. Starting with a Ubuntu update last week, I cannot record multiple HD channels simultaneously without getting serious artifacts and audio dropouts. I've made sure all updates are current and have run multiple diagnostics. I've been searching, reading and testing for 2 days now and have only improved it marginally. Before the update last week I could record 5
[00:26] <redheat> I just waited to see, and the moment it said it'll screw up my MBR I took notice and stopped before doing anything
[00:26] <redheat> I already have wine cfg open
[00:26] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Click the "Drives" tab.
[00:26] <redheat> sorry...I'll show the image again..so sorry about that
[00:27] <redheat> http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=11696
[00:27] <Korejora1> So, I tried installing wireless drivers, and it's causing a freeze when I connect to a network again. How can I figure out what's making the problem?
[00:27] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica do you see it now http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=11696
[00:28] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: I copied and pasted the link itself.
[00:28] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: That's why I said open winecfg, click the "Drives" tab, and see which drive letter is /media/$HASH/
[00:29] <redheat> ok..
[00:29] <roothorick> quick question. When 13.04 is released, Can I upgrade my 12.10 Ubuntu-GNOME without clobbering, well, GNOME?
[00:31] <SonikkuAmerica> roothorick: If you DON'T have the GNOME 3 PPA, I don't see why it shouldn't.
[00:31] <SonikkuAmerica> If you DO, however, it'll comment it out in your sources.list and you'll have to re-enable it again.
[00:31] <roothorick> SonikkuAmerica: does the 12.10 Ubuntu-GNOME installer add that PPA automatically?
[00:32] <Akshayr> wat is legacy software
[00:32] <SonikkuAmerica> roothorick: Not that I know of, you might be able to ask in #ubuntu-gnome, but don't count on an answer anytime soon.
[00:32] <darkhelmet46> Anybody in here mess with the Exchange MAPI plug-in for Evolution Mail?
[00:33] <cordyceps> anybody been able to dual boot ubuntu and freebsd?
[00:33] <SonikkuAmerica> darkhelmet46: MAPI?
[00:34] <darkhelmet46> SonikkuAmerica, yep.
[00:34] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, I went to the drive, I added a new drive and I called it D and then I assigned it to the Media where the new drive is located this is the image..http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=11697
[00:34] <darkhelmet46> SonikkuAmerica, I'm trying to get Evolution to work with Exchange 2007.
[00:35] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Good. Now select that drive letter in YUMI. (You may need to restart YUMI.)
[00:35] <galore> Hello, anyone running 12.10 ? With ufw enabled (default) i can't get traceroute to work properly, ping works just fine though.
[00:35] <roothorick> darkhelmet46: if it helps any, my school uses Exchange but I just connect with IMAP/SMTP.
[00:36] <redheat> ok..I'll do that now check this out SonikkuAmerica...http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=11698
[00:36] <redheat> look at the D
[00:36] <darkhelmet46> roothorick, thanks I thought of that, but I don't want to use IMAP
[00:37] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: That looks right to me, if that giant number is your $HASH (it apparently is)
[00:37] <NotIronic> Hey, can anyone point me in the direction of where I could find where a particular app is installed?  I'm looking for a specific file
[00:37] <redheat> yes it is ..I"ll check it again..
[00:38] <roothorick> NotIronic: dpkg -L packagename
[00:38] <galore> I need help with traceroute on a 12.10 with ufw enabled.
[00:38] <SonikkuAmerica> roothorick, NotIronic: Or "whereis"
[00:38] <brian_>  Good morning from China. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 on a MacBook Pro. Very nice indeed. I have the Apple blue-tooth mouse and it works, but the problem is that even with the settings set to slowest, the cursor still moves too fast. Is there anyway to slow it down?
[00:38] <NotIronic> rootorrick: thanks!!
[00:38] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica..http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=11699
[00:38] <redheat> take  a look at it..
[00:39] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Good to go. DO NOT CHECK THE "FORMAT" BOX, but otherwise, navigate to the ISO and hit Start or whatever the button is.
[00:40] <galore> Is there a network specific ubuntu channel ?
[00:40] <redheat> my thought exactly, you could never be too careful, SonikkuAmerica
[00:40] <galore> i mean, where people discuss netowkring, firewalls etc.
[00:41] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: That's actually because Wine can't handle that operation.
[00:41] <Lartza> Any way to run stuff if Unity won't start?
[00:42] <roothorick> Lartza: Ctrl+Alt+F1...F6
[00:42] <SonikkuAmerica> Lartza: How is Unity not starting?
[00:42] <redheat> it can't handle format? ok..I don't know that much about wine and from the way you talk it about it sounds very experimental more than real tested science this whole emulator stuff
[00:42] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: It... kind of ... is.
[00:42] <Tex_Nick> galore : #ubuntu-network
[00:42] <SonikkuAmerica> lol
[00:42] <Lartza> SonikkuAmerica, I only get desktop, managed by nautilus. Probably because I removed around a 100 packages before this reboot
[00:43] <SonikkuAmerica> Lartza: [ sudo apt-get install unity ]. If it exists, [ sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity ]
[00:43] <redheat> I told you by the time we finish this question you'll get more Coherent..lol
[00:43] <galore> Tex_Nick: thanks
[00:43] <Lartza> SonikkuAmerica, Doing a reinstall... :/
[00:43] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Haha
[00:43] <roothorick> Lartza: I would try "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and see if it installs anything you're missing
[00:43] <Lartza> Any way to install Ubuntu with less crap?
[00:44] <Lartza> Not minimal that is too small
[00:44] <Ice_Strike> What is  /usr/src used for?
[00:44] <SonikkuAmerica> Lartza: What's less crap? LXDE? Xfce?
[00:44] <Lartza> SonikkuAmerica, Thunderbird, Libreoffice...
[00:44] <k1l> Lartza: everyone wants other stuff. so go for the minimal install and install what you need
[00:44] <galore> Tex_Nick: that channel seems to be dead, hm
[00:44] <SonikkuAmerica> Lartza: The mini ISO? (universal)
[00:45] <redheat> oops roadblock...SonikkuAmerica..http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=11700
[00:45] <Lartza> SonikkuAmerica, That just installs terminal system, like I said too small...
[00:45] <redheat> it has to be a flash drive
[00:45] <Tex_Nick> galore ; sorry, meant #ubuntu-server
[00:45] <redheat> too good to be true
[00:45] <galore> Tex_Nick: hehe Thank You
[00:46] <Tex_Nick> galore : np :)
[00:46] <k1l> Lartza: like i said: remove the parts you dont like in the standard install or go for the minimal install and add the stuff you want afterwards
[00:46] <brian_>  Good morning from China. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 on a MacBook Pro. Very nice indeed. I have the Apple blue-tooth mouse and it works, but the problem is that even with the settings set to slowest, the cursor still moves too fast. Is there anyway to slow it down?
[00:46] <Lartza> k1l, And I asked if there is something between those, and the answer to that seems to be no...
[00:46] <k1l> Lartza: yep, its no
[00:46] <Lartza> If I want to do a minimal install I install Arch :P
[00:47] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Then we won't be using YUMI then. Just kill it, open a terminal and [ sudo grub-install /dev/sdXX ] where XX is the last 2 #'s of the hard drive as per GParted.
[00:47] <redheat> wait wait..it's working, dont' know what the hell that first message wat
[00:47] <Lartza> I'll just reinstall desktop
[00:47] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: It is?
[00:48] <redheat> http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=11701
[00:48] <CavalierPrime> brian_  try this   http://askubuntu.com/questions/8506/decrease-mouse-sensitivity-below-the-standard-limit
[00:48] <brian_> Thanks
[00:48] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=11701
[00:49] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: OK...
[00:49] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: I gotta vacate the dining hall and head for the bathroom, brb
[00:49] <redheat> take your time
[00:50] <Snowie> Are there any Plex users here? Anyone solved the new bug bear of permissions when installed from repos?
[00:56] <Snowie> Perhaps this is my problem. The TV Shows folder here was transfered in full from an external drive. Could that be an issue? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1674683/
[00:57] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: I'm back!
[00:57] <Snowie> There as symlinks from one in my home to one in /Plexshare
[00:57] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: How's YUMI going now?
[00:58] <SonikkuAmerica> Ack, he signed off.
[00:59] <Guest44455> hello
[01:00] <brian_> CavalierPrime, the fix works wonders. But I cannot find my xorg.conf (/etc/x11) It's not there
[01:00] <SonikkuAmerica> Hello Guest44455, welcome to the Ubuntu support channel.
[01:00] <brian_> CavalierPrime, is there another file I can use to save the new settings?
[01:01] <CavalierPrime> brian_  not sure, try a search for xorg file
[01:01] <brian_> exit
[01:01] <brian_> Ok, thnks
[01:04] <BlackDalek> PC won't boot up... after "Starting Up..." it says "udevd [81] worker [143] terminated by signal 6 )Aborted)" and "udevd [81] worker [143] failed while handling '/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/device:00/PNPA03:00/device:0c'" then "Gave up waiting for root device" then some more stuff then a busybox prompt. What now?
[01:04] <brian_> CavalierPrime, think I found it. There is a folder called xorg.conf.d and it have a 50-vmmouse.conf file. Do you think it's safe to modify that one?
[01:05] <CavalierPrime> brian_  when in doubt, make a copy of the original first
[01:05] <brian_> Ok, cool. Let's see what happens
[01:06] <BlackDalek> where do I go for help with udevd errors?
[01:07] <Gnea> !ppa
[01:11] <jakey1> Hi, is there a light weight browser for ubuntu, which has the most capabilities
[01:11] <jakey1> i.e. to ssh with
[01:11] <jakey1> -X
[01:12] <jakey1> ?
[01:13] <jakey1> anyone?
[01:14] <penth> Anyone else having spikes and pops lately with 12.04 and intel-hda sound architecture? I think it's pulseaudio but can't isolate it.
[01:14] <penth> jakey: define "browser," please. I just use the terminal for ssh
[01:14] <jakey1> internet browser
[01:14] <lehzeni> penth, spikes and pops often mention ir sharing problems
[01:14] <sgerbino> does anyone know if thursday preview of ubuntu phone can be installed on an htc one?
[01:15] <lehzeni> irq sharing
[01:15] <jakey1> i.e like firefox, chrome but very light wieght
[01:15] <FoolsRun> Hi, quick question: trying to make a slideshow on my TV that automatically shows new photos added to a directory. I can't find anything that can do this. Anyone have suggestions? Command-line tools like fbi would be best as the machine I'm trying to use doesn't have X
[01:15] <penth> I'll look at that, lehzeni, thanks
[01:15]  * penth uses Chromium
[01:15] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, you still there ?
[01:16] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: There you are!
[01:16] <BlackDalek> PC won't boot... puts me into a busybox initramfs prompt.... "udevd [81] worker [143] terminated by signal 6 (Aborted)" etc... any clues?
[01:16] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Lemme guess... it didn't boot, right?
[01:17] <redheat> like you said, it didn't, it all it did it extracted the files, and I tried to run the setup from within the drive
[01:17] <redheat> and it told me not enough space..
[01:17] <Tex_Nick> penth : is that occurinw with vlc & or skype ?
[01:17] <redheat> open to suggestion dear sir
[01:17] <penth> tex, it's background even if I have no apps or strems open using the sound port.
[01:17] <redheat> open to suggestion dear friend, (sorry)
[01:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh! So that's what you were trying to do: run the install WITHIN that drive.
[01:18] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: ^
[01:18] <redheat> which makes no sense at all
[01:18] <redheat> I know..
[01:18] <jakey1> arora anyone?
[01:18] <penth> It also happened when I booted off a Fedora 17 disk, but my headphone ports are fine
[01:18] <lehzeni> penth, so it's ok from headphones, but not from speakers?
[01:18] <redheat> its like you're trying to install windows on a flash drive, makes no sense, I was thinking of copying all the files to another external harddrive, and then trying to install them to the internal drie, but like you said they won't boot..
[01:19] <redheat> a kind of empty loop
[01:19] <penth> Correct. Speakers are connnected to the motherboard on the rear port, and I swapped speakers.
[01:19] <penth> I'm hoping my mobo isn't flaking on me
[01:19] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: On a 320 GB space, it shouldn't matter.
[01:19] <lehzeni> penth, where are the headphones vonnected to?
[01:20] <penth> Front of case bezel via a cable to the motherboard
[01:20] <FoolsRun> Anyone know a command-line tool that will show a slideshow and add new photos as they're added to a directory?
[01:20] <redheat> anyhow, what you think? we have extracted files and no boot, can I give a you picture of how they look now..
[01:20] <lehzeni> penth, one thing the check is plug the headphones into the back where the speakers have been
[01:20] <Tex_Nick> penth : ok, thought i might have a solution, but that's a different problem ... sorry
[01:21] <penth> And I get to drag it out from under the desk again :)
[01:21] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Well, there are a few things we might try...
[01:22] <lehzeni> penth, it could either be the rear jack or the speakers that are the problem. either way is fixable
[01:22]  * SigmaGirl slaps her pussy for FREEDOM
[01:22] <SigmaGirl> CHOLBY RULES!
[01:22] <redheat> http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=11703 SonikkuAmerica
[01:22] <SonikkuAmerica> ((Ouch. K-lines are not good things.)
[01:22] <SonikkuAmerica> )
[01:23] <redheat> I"m open to all suggestions...
[01:24] <redheat> Fixing this thing, and watching Independence Day
[01:24] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Virtual machine maybe? (Unless you require a frugal install)
[01:25] <redheat> I was thinking of that...
[01:25] <penth> The pops aren't coming through with the headphones, but I'm still getting the spikes in alsamixer.
[01:25] <redheat> let's do it, I already got Virtualization turned on in BIOS..so let's make use of that..
[01:25] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: [ sudo apt-get install virtualbox ]
[01:26] <lehzeni> penth, do you have a noisy microphone connected?
[01:26] <barraponoponopo> what package should I install to have a lightweight LXDE option?
[01:26] <penth> no microphone at all.
[01:26] <cfhowlett> barraponoponopo, sudo apt-get install lxde
[01:26] <barraponoponopo> (im already using ubuntu)
[01:26] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Only thing is, though, this would put a virtual image on your internal HDD.
[01:26] <barraponoponopo> cfhowlett: thanks. i was looking for something like lubuntu-desktop...
[01:27] <penth> but headphone, pcm, and front keep getting jacked up to 100% if I try to change them
[01:27] <cfhowlett> barraponoponopo, note: this will give you the lxde destkop environment, not the lubuntu metapackages
[01:27] <cfhowlett> barraponoponopo, then apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[01:27] <barraponoponopo> cfhowlett: yeah, but i won't uninstall libreoffice
[01:27] <redheat> you mean a virtual image of the installation file, but a not a virtual image of windows, cause I don't want that..?
[01:27] <redheat> is that what you meant?
[01:27] <cfhowlett> barraponoponopo, you don't have to uninstall anything ...
[01:27] <barraponoponopo> cfhowlett: is there anything i should install from lubuntu desktop?
[01:28] <lehzeni> penth, well that's all wrong. 100% could maybe make you hear clicks and pops
[01:28] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Oh that's not what you want.
[01:28] <barraponoponopo> cfhowlett: i mean, whats the point of installing gnumeric or abiword if im not gonna use them?
[01:28] <penth> That's the point. I can't see what's forcing that to happen
[01:28] <barraponoponopo> (i mostly do everything with markdown)
[01:28] <cfhowlett> barraponoponopo, nothing I'd recommend but go ahead and install the lubuntu-desktop to see the goodness.  anything you don't need/like you can remove/purge
[01:28] <lehzeni> penth, what do you have pulseaudio volume set to?
[01:28] <brian_> CavalierPrime , unfortunately it looks as though no fix has been found yet. I couldn't find any solutions in "Ask Ubuntu", which BTW, is a pretty cool help option I didn't know about. Thanks anyway.
[01:29] <redheat> I mean a clean old-fashioned install, cause getting rid of a virtual image might be problematic
[01:29] <barraponoponopo> bandwidth is still an issue in brazil :/
[01:29] <penth> In the indicator applet, about 40%
[01:29] <cfhowlett> barraponoponopo, here's a suggestion: torrent the lubuntu iso.
[01:29] <FoolsRun> Does anyone know a Linux (preferably command line) tool that will display a slideshow and watch for new photos added to a directory and add them to the slideshow?
[01:29] <barraponoponopo> cfhowlett: then reinstall?
[01:29] <CavalierPrime> brian_ np, gl
[01:30] <cfhowlett> barraponoponopo, exactly
[01:30] <brian_> Thx
[01:30] <cfhowlett> !feh
[01:30] <redheat> let's give it a try though, and see how it goes, it has nothing to do with whether I like it or not, I"m still thinking about that whole idea of install windows from within windows using virtualization
[01:30] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Wait a sec.... there is a way to get VBox to boot from an external HDD though.
[01:30] <barraponoponopo> maybe, if i convince the pc user it's a good switch. i hope lxde does the trick meanwhile.
[01:30] <cfhowlett> FoolsRun, montage
[01:30] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Or to boot an external HDD, excuse me.
[01:30] <lehzeni> penth, hate to sy it, but alsmixer clearly doesn't like your intel-hda, and it's probably alsa's fault and not the mohterboard's
[01:30] <cfhowlett> barraponoponopo, best of luck, my friend
[01:31] <barraponoponopo> btw, anyone knows of  tutorial to dealing with ipods?
[01:31] <penth> alsa, not pulse?
[01:31] <cfhowlett> FoolsRun, looks like montage is gone.  see feh
[01:31] <redheat> wait hold on, you thinking what "you" thinking, cause I didn't know that virtual box can do that :),
[01:31] <penth> I jsut pastebinned pulseaudio--dump-conf to http://pastebin.com/u4ChbxHX
[01:31] <cfhowlett> !ipod|barraponoponopo,
[01:31] <lehzeni> penth, well you said alsamixer keeps switching all volumes to 100 percent
[01:31] <FoolsRun> cfhowlett: fen requires x, yeah? I'll give it a shot.
[01:31] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: How it works is via symbolic linking.
[01:32] <cfhowlett> FoolsRun, haven't used it, so I don't know ...
[01:32] <barraponoponopo> thanks bot!
[01:32] <penth> Only with a device plugged into the rear though. I just plugged the speakers into the front and I'm ok :/
[01:32] <barraponoponopo> thanks cfhowlett
[01:32] <redheat> That vista invention...remember...
[01:32] <penth> Guess I'll try the daily builds.
[01:33] <cfhowlett> FoolsRun, display can also do montages
[01:33] <FoolsRun> cfhowlett: the big question is whether these tools can watch for new photos and automatically add them to the slideshow
[01:33] <lehzeni> penth, over the front jack, is the sound quality to your liking?
[01:33] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: So go ahead and install VBox, and then...
[01:33] <redheat> symbolic linking, was it Vista or Windows 7, I think Vista were the first to introduce Symbolic LInking, of files and folders
[01:33] <redheat> ok
[01:34] <redheat> its installed
[01:34] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Here in Unix, we use the [ ln -s ] command.
[01:34] <penth> It's a little flat and I want to keep the front open for my headset because I use it for voip
[01:34] <cfhowlett> FoolsRun, as they're command based, I'd suggest you pipe a directory search then launch the results in the display
[01:34] <penth> but I can limp with it a while
[01:34] <FoolsRun> cfhowlett: everything I've found indicates I'd have to stop and restart the slideshow to pull that off
[01:35] <redheat> ok, I was talking about a whole different issue, remember those files on the destkop, with big arrows, called Symbolic linking..anyhow I got it...
[01:35] <lehzeni> penth, I was just looking at the rear jacks on mine, and there is more than one audio output to plug into ...
[01:35] <redheat> ok so what do I do?
[01:35] <cfhowlett> FoolsRun, would this be a looping montage or something?
[01:35] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: OK, now make sure your HDD is connected...
[01:35] <redheat> it's already setting comfortably in the laptops compartment,..
[01:35] <FoolsRun> cfhowlett: it's actually for a photo booth. I want it to loop all photos saved to a dir and add newly saved photos to the end of the loop
[01:35] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Check with GParted to see what the XX in /dev/sdXX is...
[01:36] <redheat> ok
[01:36] <cfhowlett> FoolsRun, ok then.  command-line fu: after X number of runs, research the directory and pipe to a new montage
[01:36] <redheat> it's dev/sda
[01:36] <penth> Line out as opposed to speaker? That gets really flat but I can go back into the mixer and play with it.
[01:37] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: In a terminal, [ cd ~/Library/VirtualBox/HardDisks/ ]
[01:38] <FoolsRun> cfhowlett: cool, thanks
[01:38] <penth> Interestingly, though, no pops on the line out. Guess this is where I'll live a while.
[01:38] <cfhowlett> FoolsRun, best of luck
[01:38] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, this is what it said back "cd ~/Library/VirtualBox/HardDisks/"
[01:38] <redheat> no such file or directory
[01:38] <skyler> okay guys I have a really unique problem, I was wondering if anyone could help out
[01:38] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Maybe we need to create it first...
[01:38] <cfhowlett> !ask|skyler,
[01:39] <redheat> oh ok..mkdir right?
[01:39] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: That works...
[01:39] <penth> so long as it switches when I plug in the headset I'm good enough. Thanks for the conscience check :)
[01:39] <skyler> yeah sorry I hit enter by accident
[01:39] <SonikkuAmerica> [ mkdir ~/Library/VirtualBox/HardDisks/ ]
[01:39] <lehzeni> penth, if your mixer controls include an equalizer, you can take care of any flatness
[01:40] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Then [ cd ] into it...
[01:40] <penth> installing libasound2-plugin-equal as we speak :)
[01:40] <skyler> I have 2 external hard drives, one 70 gb, one 250 gb. I want to know if there is any way I can copy all of the 70gb one to the 250 gb one. My system hdd is only 40 gb, thus the problem
[01:40] <skyler> is there any way to dd half the drive, then the other half?
[01:40] <ironhalik> Is there a way to update synaptics touchpad firmware from ubuntu?
[01:41] <redheat> same BS again, no Such file or directory..
[01:41] <penth> skyler, you can dd from one device to the other without needing to use your internal as a staging space
[01:41] <chalcedony> skyler, look at rsynch
[01:41] <skyler> penth, I can only use one at a time
[01:41] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Open Nautilus and do it that way
[01:41] <lehzeni> skyler, you can copy it directly from the 70 to the 250 without going through the 40
[01:41] <skyler> chalcedony, what would that do?
[01:41] <redheat> ok
[01:42] <skyler> lehzeni, i cannot.
[01:42] <chalcedony> skyler, different program, lots of options
[01:42] <lehzeni> skyler, why not?
[01:42] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Create "Library" in your home folder, "VirtualBox" inside that, and "HardDisks" inside "VirtualBox"
[01:42] <penth> only one usb port?
[01:42] <skyler> lehzeni, i only have one sata => usb adapter haha
[01:43] <skyler> and my internal drive is pata
[01:43] <penth> do you have any other usb drive that has a 70+gig capacity?
[01:43] <skyler> nope :/
[01:43] <penth> what's the largest you have?
[01:43] <lehzeni> skyler, no internal sata ports to use?
[01:43] <skyler> lehzeni, nope it's a laptop
[01:44] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, all done
[01:44] <lehzeni> skyler, home much free space on your 40 internal drive?
[01:44] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Now, for the tricky part:
[01:44] <penth> plug in the 70 and do a du -s on it; you might be able to get everything off with rsync  and compression
[01:45] <skyler> lehzeni, almost all of it, other than what the ubuntu install takes
[01:45] <skyler> lehzeni, after the drivemaker's lies and the ubuntu install I am left with 30ish gb
[01:45] <redheat> ok I'm ready, but first should I clean the clutter on my internal drive or should I leave 'em there?
[01:45] <skyler> the source drive only has ~60gb taken
[01:46] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Paste this in a terminal (Ctrl+Shift+V) and see what happens: [ ln -s /dev/disk4 ExternalDiskDeviceLink ]
[01:46] <SonikkuAmerica> NOOOO
[01:46] <penth> What type of data is on the 70?
[01:46] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: NOT disk4
[01:46] <wiiw> chmod 777 /dev/ttyS0 , how to set this as system default ?
[01:46] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: use /dev/sda instead
[01:46] <skyler> penth, a windows install and some programs. Also some music, but I can't figure out how to delete it as it says the drive is read only.
[01:47] <lehzeni> skyler, so I guess you need to mount drive 70, copy half the files to a director on the 40 with "cp -R -p", copy those to the 250, then erase the holding directory on the 40 and repat a second time
[01:47] <skyler> lehzeni, will it boot, you think?
[01:47] <julian-delphiki> Wiiw, what are you attempting to accomplish.
[01:47] <penth> well, so long as it's read only and you can select the contents you can skip the directories you don't want
[01:47] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, this is what it said back : ln -s /dev/sda ExternalDiskDeviceLinkln: failed to create symbolic link `ExternalDiskDeviceLink': File exists
[01:47] <lehzeni> skyler, this was windows on the 70?
[01:48] <skyler> lehzeni, yeah
[01:48] <lehzeni> skyler, you will need to do a clean install of windows on the 250 before you begin
[01:48] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Then try [ whereis ExternalDiskDeviceLink ]
[01:48] <skyler> crap. Okay!
[01:48] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Just to locate it
[01:49] <skyler> wait, if I was able to just dd the disks, would it boot like that?
[01:49] <lehzeni> skyler, because by copying the files you would be assured of it either not booting or else triggering windows anti-piracy detection
[01:49] <penth> dd won't usually do it for Windows
[01:49] <aartist> I am trying to work my musical keyboard to laptop.  How I can make that possible?
[01:49] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Actually, that won't give us any useful info. Scratch that. Sorry--
[01:49] <penth> It's going to detect the different uuid on the drive and make you jump through hoops regardless
[01:50] <KxTwo> hey guys what is the conensus on best snes emulator for 12.04
[01:50] <skyler> aartist, does the keyboard have midi out?
[01:50] <SonikkuAmerica> !poll | KxTwo
[01:50] <cfhowlett> !midi|aartist,
[01:50] <wiiw> julian-delphiki: in virtualbox , it say no permission on ttyS0
[01:50] <skyler> KxTwo, depends on what you want. bsnes for pure good emulation, zsnes for something cool
[01:50] <KxTwo> man I fucking hate that bot and how people abuse it
[01:50] <skyler> !language | kxtwo
[01:50] <KxTwo> I understand that, I am asking for a general consensus or at the very least opinions
[01:51] <julian-delphiki> wiiw, when you do what?
[01:51] <KxTwo> skyler, I was using zsnes but its causing issues with some games
[01:51]  * penth has no opinions and hasn't even touched the DS in months
[01:51] <KxTwo> skyler, so I was told to try snes9x but I so far cant get it to run right
[01:51] <skyler> KxTwo, so use bsnes for 100% accurate emulation, if you system can handle it
[01:51] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, I got them both, two S links inside the directory
[01:51] <KxTwo> skyler, is it resource heavy?
[01:52] <skyler> KxTwo, for the accurate emulation, yes very
[01:52] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Actually, [ find ExternalDiskDeviceLink ] is more useful.
[01:52] <KxTwo> its just snes
[01:52] <skyler> KxTwo, it probably won't run at realtime speed unless you have a 3GHz processor
[01:52] <wiiw> julian-delphiki: I run virtualbox without sudo , and virtualbox need use ttyS0 for setting my DTU
[01:52] <redheat> locate is as good as any other..
[01:52] <penth> thanks, lehzeni and Tex_Nick. Now I can watch my lectures again without cans or wanting to tear hair out :)
[01:52] <redheat> there they are http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=11704
[01:53] <KxTwo> im on my laptop, 4G ram turion dual core
[01:53] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: OK, we'll use ExternalDiskDeviceLink2
[01:53] <skyler> KxTwo, clock speed?
[01:53] <lehzeni> you are welcome penth
[01:53] <KxTwo> skyler, for some reason ubuntu doesnt state it and I do not recall
[01:53] <redheat> roger that
[01:53] <KxTwo> I doubt its 3 though.
[01:53] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Try this: [ ln -s /dev/sda ExternalDiskDeviceLink2 ]
[01:53] <julian-delphiki> wiiw, i think if you add your user to the "dialout" group you should be able to access it just fine
[01:53] <skyler> KxTwo, use lshw to find out
[01:54] <wiiw> julian-delphiki: ok I'll try.
[01:54] <redheat> ok it's there..
[01:54] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Now, I killed my Chrome window, one sec...
[01:54] <redheat> take your time
[01:54] <KxTwo> ugh if zsnes hand't started screwing up I'd be fine
[01:55] <lehzeni> what was the problem znes was having?
[01:55] <julian-delphiki> KxTwo, what does "screwing up" mean
[01:55] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Try this megalith: [ VBoxManage internalcommands createrawvmdk -filename ExternalDisk.vmdk -rawdisk $PWD/ExternalDiskDeviceLink2 ]
[01:55] <KxTwo> its a glitch with super mario rpg.  Im well into the game but it freezes anytime I try to equip anything.  I am hoping I can use zsnes save files on a different EMU
[01:56] <BlackDalek> Is there some kind of bug in Ubuntu 11.10 which prevent installing more than 1Gb ram?
[01:56] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: You're still in the same directory right?
[01:56] <KxTwo> yah my turion is only a 2400
[01:56] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: You should be!
[01:56] <KxTwo> julian-delphiki, I searched for fixes but most answers said to switch emulators
[01:56] <lehzeni> BlackDalek, no. but you might have a bios limitation
[01:57] <aartist> ubottu: thanks.. , but I like to play yamahakeyboard and show the notes in laptop.
[01:57] <redheat> http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=11705 SonikkuAmerica..
[01:57] <redheat> Check that image
[01:57] <redheat> yeah
[01:57] <redheat> check the image and their reply
[01:57] <KxTwo> skyler, so I think that option is out if it really requires 3ghz.  Jeez my desktop doesn't even have that lol
[01:57] <aartist> ,music
[01:57] <BobLfoot> I am running 12.04.01 LTS - i386 fully updated as an Oracle VirtualBox Guest on a Windows 7 host.  TF2 was installed from Steam and is also current.    What would be a logical next step to troubleshoot?
[01:57] <aartist> How I can do midi input ?
[01:57] <julian-delphiki> KxTwo, http://board.zsnes.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12400  says its not compatible
[01:58] <BlackDalek> lehzeni, How do I know if there is a BIOS limitation? In the Bios setup screens all 2 Gb counts up fine and no ram errors show during POST....
[01:58] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: You'll need the packages it mentions, first off..
[01:58] <julian-delphiki> KxTwo, you could try and old version of znes, 1.42 or older.
[01:58] <redheat> ok, I thought because we didn't write sda in that megalith, it turned back an error
[01:58] <aartist> skyler: NO. the keyboard doesn't have midi out.  It has a USB cable, that I am connecting to laptop. It is connecting to /dev/midi1
[01:59] <KxTwo> julian-delphiki, I saw other people suggest it but no confirmations on whether or not it worked.  You think going backwards might do the trick?
[01:59] <lehzeni> BlackDalek, what does 11.10 say in response to your 2gb?
[01:59] <julian-delphiki> KxTwo, the thread i linked says yes
[01:59] <redheat> I'll get it from synaptic
[01:59] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: The other thing is, you'll also need this: [ useradd -aG vboxusers redheat ]
[01:59] <KxTwo> julian-delphiki, that is the same forum I was reading but it was a different article, must be my search was typed poorly.  Now for the uber noob question.  How do I install the older version?
[01:59] <aartist> !midi-input|aartist
[02:00] <aartist> !midi-input|aartist,
[02:00] <KxTwo> julian-delphiki, I had problems installing the version I had, and had to do it through aptitude as it kept breaking through software center
[02:00] <aartist> !midi|aartist,
[02:01] <redheat> is that a command line to add me as part of the virtual users group..
[02:01] <lehzeni> it's been a long time since any linux had a 1gb ram limit
[02:01] <redheat> or are you adding a whole class of groups called Virtual users
[02:01] <jgcampbell300> can anyone here help me with fail2ban ... i am having a heck of a time with its config
[02:03] <skyler> alright, so does anyone know how I can upgrade from 6.06 to 8.04 without a CD? I feel pretty screwed right now
[02:03] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica..
[02:03] <packetfrog> On ubuntustudio I was trying out various DE and now my ubuntustudio has no window manager apparently as all my windows have no frames or movement options    any ideas on how to fix?
[02:03] <lehzeni> skyler, what happened?
[02:03] <skyler> I've followed the guilde on EOL upgrading to no avail
[02:03] <BlackDalek> lehzeni.. it boots up as far as "Starting Up..." then it crashes to busybox initramfs prompt with "udevd [81] worker [143] terminated by signal 6 (Aborted)" and "udevd [81] worker [143] failed while handling '/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/device:00/PNPA03:00/device:0c'" and " Gave up waiting for root device" etc...
[02:03] <cfhowlett> packetfrog, but you can login???
[02:04] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Yeah?
[02:05] <redheat> sorry, the last one was that a command line that I should enter into the terminal
[02:05] <skyler> lehzeni, I bought a computer and it came with 6.06 on it. I am having trouble upgrading to 8.04 so I can upgrade to 10.04 and then to 12.04, because it doesn't have a cd drive and doesn't like to boot from usb
[02:05] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Yeah, the [ useradd ... ] command
[02:06] <packetfrog> cfhowlett yes  but this xchat window is unmovable  no frame  no way to move or close it
[02:06] <VlanX> Is there a way to reduce icons spacing on nautilus w/out changing the icons view?
[02:06] <cfhowlett> !pxe|skyler,
[02:06] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Here it is again for convenience: [ useradd -aG vboxusers redheat ]
[02:06] <cfhowlett> packetfrog, logout / login and try the xfce DE
[02:06] <lehzeni> BlackDalek, which device is that "pnp a03:00 :0c"?
[02:06] <packetfrog> cfhowlett brb :)
[02:06] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: What that does is throw you in the workgroup "vboxusers" so that you have privileges to mess with VBoxManager.
[02:06] <skyler> cfhowlett, there is no way I'm going to get that to work, I tried earlier today and it just hung after it connected to the ubuntu mirror
[02:06] <SonikkuAmerica> *VBoxManage
[02:07] <navetz> hi I need help, i ran ubuntu updates
[02:07] <SonikkuAmerica> navetz: And?
[02:07] <cfhowlett> skyler, thinking ...
[02:07] <BlackDalek> lehzeni, not a clue, but I assume it is the RAM...
[02:08] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, check this out...http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=11706
[02:08] <navetz> i ran ubuntu updates and now all my screen resolution stuff is messed up, before it was working perfect. I think it might have something to do with compiz
[02:08] <KxTwo> ugh hthis is confusing
[02:08] <lehzeni> Blackdalek, that device is not the ram
[02:08] <navetz> SonikkuAmerica: sorry hit enter to early lol
[02:08] <navetz> i have no window decorator either, there are no close minimize and max buttons
[02:08] <packetfrog> cfhowlett  same deal ;/  I can login with openbox and get frames and what not  just not xfce or the ubuntustudio option ( I know thats xfce as well )
[02:09] <wiiw> why has so many ttySNN in /dev/
[02:09] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Just try running the VBoxManage command again: (Press the up arrow a few times in terminal, it should pop up)
[02:09] <redheat> ok
[02:09] <cfhowlett> packetfrog, have you deleted desktop environments?  Perhaps reinstalling xfce ...
[02:10] <redheat> not a few times just one time, there's something they keep barking about the "a" before the G is no "compute" for the terminal
[02:10] <lehzeni> Blackdlek, I found one other mention of a problem like your, and device pnpa03:00 was related to power mangement
[02:10] <skyler> cfhowlett, any ideas?
[02:10] <liahimcociuba> 	@jgcampbell - some resources to read http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/HOWTOs
[02:10] <packetfrog> if I reinstall regular xfce it wont be the ubuntustudio version right?
[02:10] <packetfrog> configured the same anyway
[02:10] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Don't worry about the useradd command. Just run the VBoxManage one.
[02:10] <packetfrog> really id like to get rid of all this crud and just use fluxbox  but i cant get the cairo-dock to work right
[02:10] <redheat> ok..it gave me a list when I just wrote VBoxManage
[02:10] <cfhowlett> packetfrog, xfce is ONLY the desktop environment.  If we can get on DE working properly you can recreate the US linkages
[02:11] <solis> hello
[02:11] <solis> do you is letter
[02:11] <lehzeni> skyler, do you have any sata cdrom drives?
[02:11] <navetz> does anyone have any idea why updates would mess up all my window decorations and screen resolutions?
[02:11] <cfhowlett> skyler, repeat your request at intervals in the channel.  gotta be  a way ...
[02:12] <skyler> lehzeni, it's a laptop. thinkpad t40. I don't have any CDs to burn at the moment, and all the shops in the area are closed.
[02:12] <packetfrog> cfhowlett are you familiar with a tutorial or something on how to get cairo-dock to not take over my screen with black boxes  and not blink all the time? :/
[02:12] <BlackDalek> lehzeni, I haven't been able to find anything on google except my own posts on ubuntu forum... so you've done better than me.
[02:12] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: The command from earlier: [ VBoxManage internalcommands createrawvmdk -filename ExternalDisk.vmdk -rawdisk $PWD/ExternalDiskDeviceLink2 ]
[02:12] <cfhowlett> solis NO idea what you mean
[02:12] <cfhowlett> packetfrog, cairo dock?  no.  sorry.
[02:12] <solis> i am speak spanish
[02:12] <skyler> cfhowlett, I am attempting to upgrade from 6.06 on a computer that is being difficult at booting from usb and I don't have any blank cds
[02:13] <cfhowlett> !es|solis
[02:13] <packetfrog> cfhowlett Or another dock that works good and looks nice. Im not having much luck getting a nice looking usable desktop going.
[02:13] <cfhowlett> packetfrog, the default xfce dock wasn't to your liking?
[02:13] <skyler> would it be possible to make a partition in my hard disk, dd the install iso for 12.04 to it, set up GRUB to boot to that partition then go from there? or am I just drunk
[02:13] <solis> ok
[02:13] <SonikkuAmerica> navetz: Maybe it didn't like your xorg.conf or whatever X config file you used.
[02:13] <solis> but live englih
[02:14] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, same old same old : http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=11707
[02:14] <lehzeni> Blackvalek, the other mention of that device was decided to be a kernel bug. (?) so maybe if you removed the second gig and upgraded to something newer than 11.10, then you could put the second gig back again and everything woulf be happy
[02:14] <cfhowlett> skyler, that actually sounds good!
[02:14] <packetfrog> cfhowlett it wont go transparent and looks clunky.
[02:14] <navetz> SonikkuAmerica: I did not change anything, it was working for about 3 weeks on my new laptop, then I updated and everything broke. Any idea how I can fix it?
[02:14] <cfhowlett> packetfrog, well, one thing at a time.  did xfce reinstall and fix things?
[02:14] <packetfrog> brb
[02:14] <skyler> cfhowlett, how in the hell would I go about doing any of that? I could use gparted to make the partition but after that I would just be lost
[02:15] <BlackDalek> lehzeni, I am hoping you are right because I am currently in the process of running up upgrade with just the 1Gb installed.
[02:15] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: That was my mistake. Wrong command. THIS is the correct one, from the Web site: [ sudo usermod -a -G vboxusers redheat ]
[02:15] <cfhowlett> skyler, I've never done it, but I believe it could be done.  Direct this question to the channel, not just to me.  Pretty sure someone here has a solution.
[02:15] <lehzeni> skyler, yes, you could temporarily dd the iso to the 250gb drive and boot from that
[02:16] <Pagos> lehzeni, I can't boot from usb, and that drive is SATA. My hdd in my computer is PATA
[02:16] <lehzeni> skyler, just remember to erase it later before you start copying the windows files
[02:16] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Then try [ VBoxManage internalcommands createrawvmdk -filename ExternalDisk.vmdk -rawdisk $PWD/ExternalDiskDeviceLink2 ] again.
[02:16] <lehzeni> oh
[02:16] <SonikkuAmerica> navetz: Can you be a little more specific on what broke?
[02:17] <lehzeni> Pagos, can't boot at all from usb? or just undependable booting?
[02:17] <solis> help anyone in the section of Spanish
[02:17] <cfhowlett> !es|solis,
[02:17] <navetz> SonikkuAmerica: My screen resolution is really low, I don't have any taskbars on the left or the top, just a background. I opened a terminal with ctrl+t and launched a broswer through there. I have no window decorations either.
[02:18] <turtal> hello. I've got a question about installation. can anyone help?
[02:18] <Pagos> lehzeni, it's a thinkpad so I'm pretty sure it will only boot from IBM drives. I have not been at all successful in getting it to boot from usb
[02:18] <cfhowlett> !ask|turtal,
[02:18] <lehzeni> Pagos, nothing in your bios to select usb booting?
[02:18] <SonikkuAmerica> navetz: My guess is that it ditched your graphics drivers. Can you run [ jockey-gtk ] in a terminal for me?
[02:19] <darkhelmet46> I'm back.  Had to reboot to Windows for the wife.
[02:19] <turtal> i'm about to install ubuntu from a flashdrive. i picked the drive to install but I'm not sure what to pick for "device for boot loader installation"
[02:19] <Pagos> lehzeni, there is, but I can't get it to work. I'd rather go with the partition and then dd then set up grub route. I just don't know how to do any of that
[02:19] <solis> ok ok
[02:19] <BlackDalek> sometimes if a computer won't boot from USB there is an option hidden in the BIOS under "legacy" boot options...
[02:19] <cfhowlett> turtal, that would be your HDD ...
[02:20] <cfhowlett> turtal, probably displays as /dev/sda ...
[02:20] <turtal> I've got 3 and the list gives 6 or 7
[02:20] <cfhowlett> turtal, 3 hdds?  whoa cowboy!
[02:20] <darkhelmet46> I have a question, I installed Ubuntu from WUBI, but is there a way to port the install to a dedicated partition on my hard drive?
[02:20] <cfhowlett> darkhelmet46, yes.
[02:21] <turtal> 1 ssd (120gb, windows), 1 500g (2 partitions, gonna install ubuntu to one of it) and 1tb (for backups)
[02:21] <darkhelmet46> cfhowlett, how?
[02:21] <cfhowlett> darkhelmet46, looking ...
[02:21] <darkhelmet46> Thanks.  :D
[02:21] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: How's that command work?
[02:21] <turtal> so do I pick the first one on the list (which is the 1tb one)
[02:21] <packetfrog> cfhowlett: thanks :) it was xfwm4 !
[02:22] <darkhelmet46> lol SonikkuAmerica and redheat still going at it I see.
[02:22] <cfhowlett> packetfrog, FTW!
[02:22] <SonikkuAmerica> darkhelmet46: You bet. I found a way to use Virtualbox to ln -s the HDD and trick it into installing Windows on the HDD.
[02:23] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, same BS, again, that whole install packages, I did install the first one, and I even installed the Generic headers, yet i still get this:
[02:23] <darkhelmet46> rock on, SonikkuAmerica
[02:23] <cfhowlett> skyler  you there?
[02:23] <redheat> The character device /dev/vboxdrv does not exist.
[02:23] <Pagos> cfhowlett, yes.
[02:23] <redheat> 	 Please install the virtualbox-ose-dkms package and the appropriate
[02:23] <redheat> 	 headers, most likely linux-headers-generic.
[02:23] <packetfrog> Guess ill have to goto a lug or something and get some help setting up a fancy desktop
[02:23] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: I told you to install those. You NEED them.
[02:23] <Pagos> cfhowlett, about to partition off a 1gb area for that install disk trick think
[02:24] <cfhowlett> Pagos, while I normally wouldn't recommend it, in your case, a wubi install might also be worth considering
[02:24] <redheat> I already did, and they're already installed, yet, the same old message, ...
[02:24] <Pagos> is there a way to partition an active disk? and no wai, not using wubi
[02:24] <cfhowlett> Pagos, but if the boot off partition trick works, ignore this advice
[02:24] <Pagos> I am not on windows
[02:24] <redheat> the first command, about the usergroup worked perfectly, no glitches, the second one is still giving that error again..
[02:24] <Pagos> I'm on ubuntu 6.06
[02:24] <SonikkuAmerica> !6.06 | Pagos
[02:25] <SonikkuAmerica> Pagos: ^
[02:25] <Pagos> SonikkuAmerica, I'm trying to upgrade. What you just did there helped out no one
[02:25] <Pagos> Thanks for being a snide unhelpful person though!
[02:26] <cfhowlett> Pagos, busy channel and not everyone is following all the details of every thread ...
[02:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Pagos: I will not take that language! I didn't know you were trying to upgrade!
[02:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Thank you cfhowlett
[02:26]  * cfhowlett ... thinks EVERYONE!  Chillax!
[02:26] <Pagos> cfhowlett, yeah I know. :P so can I partition an active disk?
[02:27] <cfhowlett> Pagos, I have never done what you're attempting ... my first instinct is to say "NO" but ... ask in channel with details to get an informed response
[02:27] <turtal> i'm getting this "no root filesystem is defined" error from the custom install options
[02:27] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, maybe it need to restart, hold on for a second..
[02:27] <turtal> how do I fix this?
[02:27] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Probably a good idea.
[02:27] <dcope> any reason something in /etc/crontab wouldn't be running?
[02:28] <cfhowlett> turtal, you have to set one partition to be the root system, i.e. "/"
[02:28] <Pagos> I know it's possible on windows using the disk manager
[02:28] <dcope> I have something setup as * * * * * root foo and it never runs from my crontab
[02:28] <turtal> do I have to format the drive?
[02:29] <dcope> I can manually run `foo` and it works fine. what gives?
[02:29] <lehzeni> Pagos, you have grub installed and running on your internal drive, right?
[02:29] <cfhowlett> turtal, you should format the ubuntu filesystem as ext4
[02:30] <turtal> when I installed it from windows I didin't had to format the drive though. I still have some files on that drive and I can't back them up since I have no storage space on other drives
[02:30] <Pagos> lehzeni, yeah I think.
[02:30] <darkhelmet46> Anybody here have any success in getting Evolution to work with Exchange 2007?
[02:30] <turtal> is it possible to install it to a drive without formatting it (using  usb installation)
[02:30] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, you still there
[02:30] <cfhowlett> turtal, you don't have to format the drive!  JUST the partition for ubuntu!
[02:31] <Pagos> Windows can shrink an active drive, why can't ubuntu?
[02:31] <lehzeni> Pagos, so put the iso image on the 250, and configure the grub on thee internal drive to boot that 250 gig drive
[02:31] <turtal> okay
[02:31] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Yeah
[02:31] <darkhelmet46> Pagos, GParted can resize partions.
[02:31] <Pagos> lehzeni, how would I go about that?
[02:31] <redheat> ok, so I did a restart
[02:31] <Pagos> darkhelmet46, not active ones
[02:31] <redheat> let's do those two last commands again..
[02:31] <turtal> is it possible to do it without patitioning? (because it was possible with the windows installer)
[02:31] <lehzeni> Pagos, there is a whole howto for howto configure grub
[02:32] <peanuter> upon doing anything with apt-get the reading packages list"
[02:32] <peanuter> takes around 15-20 minutes
[02:32] <peanuter> any ideas?
[02:32] <cfhowlett> turtal, WHOA?  you're doing a windows install of ubuntu?
[02:32] <navetz> SonikkuAmerica: sorry my window's all froze, when I try to run jockey-gtk it says it's not installed. When I go to install it, it says it's already installed
[02:33] <lehzeni> Pagos, even if you can't directly boot the 260gb drive because it's usb, grub can still boot it for you
[02:33] <Pagos> lehzeni, beautiful. I will look into how to do that
[02:33] <Korejora> Is anyone familiar with wireless internet problems? I've gotten my wireless adapter working, finally, only to find it freezes everything when it connects to the internet, and I haven't the first idea how to figure out the problem.
[02:33] <turtal> oh god :) okay let's back that up. today earlier I tried installin ubuntu from windows. when I got loads of errors I uninstalled it from windows again and decided that I should try it with a usb drive
[02:33] <turtal> when I installed it from windows I got this option of NOT TO FORMAT any drive and install it on my d drive
[02:34] <PadNet_201> Here's a question, which repo do i add to allow kaffeine to play .avi files?
[02:34] <turtal> now I've booted from usb and when I install it alonside windows, I only see my 120gb ssd
[02:34] <SonikkuAmerica> navetz: Um... shoot.
[02:34] <turtal> when I pick custom install, I get this "no root file system bla bla" error
[02:35] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, check that out: http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=11708
[02:35] <cfhowlett> turtal, the windows installer (wubi) is a testing platform for ubuntu.  It is NOT a long-term installation solution.  If you only want to test, you're better served by putting ubuntu in a virtualbox
[02:35] <turtal> oh I want to use it, I'm excited about it aswell
[02:35] <turtal> but can't get it installed you know :)
[02:36] <redheat> the message is now different...
[02:36] <Pagos> if I'm going to dd the ubuntu 12.04 install iso onto it, does the format of the partition matter?
[02:36] <cfhowlett> turtal, multiple hdd's?  Wubi is the last method you want to mess with ...
[02:36] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: You're in the wrong directory. You need to [ cd ] back into ~/Library/VirtualBox/HardDisks/.
[02:36] <redheat> ok..
[02:37] <turtal> oh I thought it would be easier (btw wubi is the windows installer right)
[02:37] <turtal> ?
[02:37] <packetfrog_> Anyone know how to get the system tray back on xfce   like the start menu where open windows are shown   if i minimize anything i cant get it back right now.
[02:37] <packetfrog_>  cfhowlett thanks for the pointer on not being retarded and reinstalling xfce   made it so i could get to window manager settings   couldnt before
[02:37] <redheat> ok I"m there now..
[02:37] <Pagos> if I'm going to dd the ubuntu 12.04 install iso onto it, does the format of the partition matter?
[02:37] <redheat> so should I repeat the two commands now...
[02:38] <cfhowlett> packetfrog, no worries
[02:38] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: I cleared my window by accident, say again?
[02:38] <redheat> no problem, I went to the directory as you said, and I got the same error again..
[02:38] <cfhowlett> turtal, yes "wubi" is the windows installer
[02:38] <ctmjr> !panels
[02:38] <Pagos> if I'm going to dd the ubuntu 12.04 install iso onto it, does the format of the partition matter?
[02:39] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: You may need to [ ln -s ] again.
[02:39] <packetfrog_> im not using gnome
[02:39] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: [ ln -s /dev/sda ExternalDiskDeviceLink2 ]
[02:40] <redheat> so you want me to type that command again alon,e or is there something else you want me to add to ln -s
[02:40] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: See above.
[02:40] <peanuter> upon doing anything with apt-get the 'reading packages list' is taking around 20 minutes. Does anyone know how to clear the packages list and rebuild it?
[02:40] <turtal> while installing do i need to do anything from "edit partition" (Change option)
[02:40] <Pagos> if I'm going to dd the ubuntu 12.04 install iso onto it, does the format of the partition matter?
[02:40] <ctmjr> packetfrog: I know thought it would be more helpful than that
[02:41] <turtal> or let me ask like this, which option do I need to pick in order to install ubuntu without partitioning the drive
[02:41] <Bsims> peanuter: it's hanging on apt-get update?
[02:41] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, speaking of the packages they wanted me to install I installed every single linux-headers-generic package out there along with the Virtualbox dme package so nothing was left out
[02:42] <cfhowlett> turtal, you have to partition to install ubuntu to a hdd.  If you'd rather not, I'd suggest the virtualbox method
[02:42] <peanuter> reading packages list after using apt anything the last thing it does can take upto 20 minutes
[02:42] <peanuter> i think i have managed to corrupt it somehow and was looking to rebuild it
[02:42] <cfhowlett> turtal, you have to partition because linux needs its own partition to live!
[02:42] <redheat> the last command, it says file exists...
[02:42] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: OK, good. You'll be prompted to auto-remove the ones it doesn't need.
[02:42] <turtal> okay I got my answer. how come it's possible to do it from windows and not from usb though?
[02:42] <peanuter> it works just takes 20 mintues to 'read packages list'
[02:42] <Bsims> peanuter: not sure
[02:42] <turtal> it doesn't make any sense :)
[02:42] <redheat> so what do you want me to do?
[02:43] <peanuter> going to try rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf
[02:43] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Use this: [ ln -s /dev/sda blah ]
[02:43] <Bsims> peanuter: try apt-get clean then apt-get update again
[02:43] <cfhowlett> turtal, the windows installer creates a "fake" windows application called ubuntu.
[02:44] <darkhelmet46> Seriously, though.  Why is it so GD hard to get Exchange to play with Ubuntu?  Can't someone write a mail program that uses ActiveSync?
[02:44] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, so the new link was created
[02:44] <cfhowlett> darkhelmet46, that would be a conversation for the good folk in Redmond ...
[02:44] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Good. Now: [ VBoxManage internalcommands createrawvmdk -filename ExternalDisk.vmdk -rawdisk $PWD/blah ]
[02:44] <Bsims> peanuter: do this "sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update"
[02:44] <lehzeni> Pagos, the iso contains it's own format
[02:44] <Pagos> so I should be fine with whatever?
[02:45] <turtal> thanks for your help cfhowlett. have a good day o/
[02:45] <redheat> before I move on with this, what should I write in place of "filename"..and External Disk..
[02:45] <peanuter> ok
[02:45] <darkhelmet46> cfhowlett, I might be ignorant, but it seems like the framework is there.  All mobile devices can sync with Exchange, why can't there be a desktop app that uses the same protocols?
[02:45] <lehzeni> maybe you should ask one of the others to be sure, I usually just burn discs, I've never done the iso copying to hdd before
[02:45] <peanuter> upon doing apt-get update, I am presently at 4% "Reading packages list... 4%"
[02:46] <lehzeni> Pagos, maybe you should ask one of the others to be sure, I usually just burn discs, I've never done the iso copying to hdd before
[02:46] <cfhowlett> darkhelmet46, there are several tuts online .. even a couple of vids.  I've never done myself as I don't manage an Exchange box ...
[02:46] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: The " -filename " is a switch option.
[02:46] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, what should I write in place of filename, and external disk, or should I just copy it as is?
[02:46] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Copy it as is.
[02:46] <redheat> oh ok.., as is then..
[02:46] <cfhowlett> darkhelmet46, ubuntu + exchange + evolution were the search terms
[02:46] <Zahid> guys whats the best screen recording software for Ubuntu. something good for youtube videos, good quality, and audio recording too
[02:46] <Zahid> Thanks :)
[02:46] <peanuter> we are now upto %11 it might appear a hair faster but still going to take about 10 minutes
[02:47] <darkhelmet46> cfhowlett, Yeah I am trying to get Evolution to work, but I keep getting an error message on authentication.  The Googling I've done suggests that Evolution's integration with Exchange is mediocre at best.
[02:47] <lehzeni> Pagos, I think, but am not sure, that you simply dd the iso file to a blank hdd and that's that
[02:48] <cfhowlett> darkhelmet46, at best.  after the last update, you had to do backflips just to integrate hotmail with evolution ...
[02:48] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: With any luck it should go through with no problems.
[02:48] <rioko> can any one help me with cloneing a system?
[02:48] <DarkAceZ> wat
[02:48] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, same error again...: VBoxManage: error: Cannot open the raw disk '/home/redheat/Library/VirtualBox/HardDisks/blah': VERR_ACCESS_DENIED
[02:48] <redheat> VBoxManage: error: The raw disk vmdk file was not created
[02:48] <lehzeni> Pagos, then you config grub to boot that drive, and you can begin your install. But upgrading isn't supported from 6.06, so you will need to do a complete fresh install back to your 40gb internal drive
[02:49] <peanuter> Bsims: at about 20% now
[02:49] <DarkAceZ> h JoshDreamland
[02:49] <DarkAceZ> oh, box2d
[02:49] <lehzeni> and Pagos was gone anyways
[02:49] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Go back to the terminal, press the up arrow once, move to the beginning of the command with the left arrow key, and type "sudo" followed by a space, then hit ENTER again.
[02:50] <darkhelmet46> Woa!   I just happened to be staring at the channel when you connected
[02:51] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Any luck?
[02:51] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, Congrats baby, ...it is created...
[02:51] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: When all else fails, sudo. :)
[02:52] <redheat> http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=11710
[02:52] <darkhelmet46> SonikkuAmerica, perhaps my favorite xkcd: http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/sandwich.png
[02:52] <redheat> take a look at the Marvel...sudo, you know what would have been easier, if we did from a root account, ...
[02:52] <redheat> http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=11710
[02:53] <Adirolfx> I need some help with a webcam.  Ubuntu 12.10 on a Lenovo SL510.  Skype shows gray screen only when I try to do a video chat
[02:53] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: :) Now, for the next step: Launch VirtualBox, hit the "new" button, and STOP AT THE FIRST SCREEN OF THE "CREATE NEW VIRTUAL DISK WIZARD"!
[02:53] <Adirolfx> I tried cheese, but had the same results
[02:53] <redheat> Roger That...
[02:53] <SonikkuAmerica> darkhelmet46: We have that in one of the computer labs in the engineering building of my college.
[02:53] <redheat> VM name and OS Type
[02:54] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, VM nam and OS type
[02:54] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Just give 'em something to go by, you're only using the VM once.
[02:54] <SonikkuAmerica> redhat: OS is Windows 7 (I forgot, 32- or 64-bit?)
[02:54] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: OS is Windows 7 (I forgot, 32- or 64-bit?)
[02:55] <redheat> I called it windows 7, figures 8 , 64 Bit
[02:55] <redheat> I gave it 4 gigs of RAM
[02:55] <SonikkuAmerica> OK.
[02:55] <SonikkuAmerica> That's fine.
[02:55] <redheat> 64 bit or 32 bit won't affect anything
[02:55] <SonikkuAmerica> Yes it will.
[02:56] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: It makes all the difference in many cases.
[02:56] <peanuter> reading packages list after using apt anything the last thing it does can take upto 20 minutes. any ideas?
[02:56] <redheat> ok, start-up disk is checked, new one, or use existing one..
[02:56] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: This is where I said STOP.
[02:57] <ubuntu518> 我来了
[02:57] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Click on the radio button "Use existing..."
[02:57] <SonikkuAmerica> !zh | ubuntu518
[02:57] <redheat> but I don't think in the case of using this as a startup,...anyhow, to-may toes, to-ma-tos
[02:57] <redheat> roger that
[02:57] <darkhelmet46> SonikkuAmerica, this is a good one too, I have his pinned up at work: http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyimages/1547b.gif
[02:57] <baobeiiii> why does marlon brando die in most movies
[02:57] <redheat> it says empty
[02:57] <cfhowlett> baobeiiii, completely offtopic in this channel.
[02:58] <redheat> sorry wait..
[02:58] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: If ExternalDisk.vmdk isn't there, you'll need to browse for it (you know where it is)
[02:58] <SonikkuAmerica> darkhelmet46: Zenternet... lol
[03:00] <darkhelmet46> lol
[03:00] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, now check this one out : http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=11711
[03:01] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Where have I seen that before? We'll need to close VBox for now and run Nautilus one more time.
[03:01] <redheat> roger that..
[03:01] <redheat> ok
[03:02] <redheat> navigate to the .mvk file
[03:02] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: When you open Nautilus, there should be a little 'eject' button next to the '320 GB Filesystem.' Click it.
[03:02] <redheat> ok
[03:02] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: No, we don't need to go to the .vmdk file.
[03:02] <n0sq> hmm, i'm wondering how ubuntu is doing time sync when ntp isn't installed
[03:02] <SonikkuAmerica> Now, kill Nautilus.
[03:02] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: ^
[03:03] <redheat> ok done
[03:03] <redheat> repeat the virtualbox manager again?
[03:03] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: No. Just start VBox itself back up.
[03:03] <Guest36117> Are there any anon's on this server
[03:03] <redheat> ok
[03:04] <redheat> ok
[03:04] <bnscv> hello everyone, so, I finally installed Ubuntu 12.10 here, but I'm having problems with the sound... It doesnt work, I just rear some little noise from time to time on the speakers... I already tried disabling automute on alsamixer, any help would be appreciated. thx in advance
[03:04] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Open up the VM we created...
[03:04] <redheat> ok
[03:04] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: What does it say?
[03:05] <peanuter> http://pastebin.com/qY8JKpsf my issue with apt-get update
[03:05] <redheat> nothing cause you told me to close it..
[03:05] <EmLeX> Guest20674: probally they can be anyone you know
[03:05] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: I said start it back up now. :)
[03:06] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: start VirtualBox that is.
[03:06] <redheat> Ok I did that..
[03:06] <redheat> the introductory page, that's it..
[03:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Double-click the VM in the left task pane...
[03:06] <SonikkuAmerica> NOT the "new" button
[03:06] <redheat> Welcome to the virtual box..
[03:06] <redheat> nothing..
[03:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Then hit the "new" button.
[03:07] <redheat> ok
[03:07] <redheat> done
[03:07] <SonikkuAmerica> Same stuff as before for the 1st wizrd.
[03:07] <SonikkuAmerica> *wizard.
[03:07] <redheat> ok
[03:07] <SonikkuAmerica> The 2nd wizard, use existing.
[03:07] <redheat> ok
[03:08] <SonikkuAmerica> In the 2nd wizard, select ExternalDisk.vmdk
[03:08] <redheat> ok..same error as before
[03:08] <Tex_Nick> about 6 months ago i burned a bunch of mp4 videos onto DVD's while booted into win xp ... out of 14 DVD's i can only read 1 disk in quantal ... i verified each disk after i burned them ... any ideas what the problem might be ?
[03:08] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: kill VBox again, go back to the terminal and type this: [ gksudo virtualbox & ]
[03:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Then STAY IN THE TERMINAL
[03:09] <redheat> roger that..
[03:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Are you back in the terminal?
[03:10] <redheat> yes I did, and the moment I wrote the above command VB popped up..
[03:10] <SonikkuAmerica> Good. Type [ disown -h virtualbox ] in the terminal.
[03:10] <SonikkuAmerica> (That will detach the process from being dependent on the terminal.)
[03:11] <thieh> Question:  What factors might make me want to use filesystem other than ext4 as / ?
[03:11] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: After that's done, close your terminal.
[03:12] <redheat> SonikkuAmerica, it says, bash: disown: virtualbox: no such job
[03:12] <SonikkuAmerica> thieh: If you want it compatible with older versions of distros, MAYBE. I don't see another good reason.
[03:12] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Fine. MINIMIZE the terminal and go back to VirtualBox and repeat the 1st wizard again.
[03:12] <redheat> ok
[03:13] <redheat> repeated the 1st wizard..
[03:13] <SonikkuAmerica> 2nd wizard: Existing, select ExternalDisk.vmdk
[03:13] <redheat> ok
[03:14] <SonikkuAmerica> (you'll need to browse to it)
[03:14] <redheat> ok..looking good, it caught the vmdk, file not a blemish..
[03:15] <SonikkuAmerica> Awesome. Keep going with the wizard.
[03:15] <redheat> ok
[03:15] <thieh> SonikkuAmerica, so no good reason to use stuff like XFS, Btrfs and the like with a new install for the time being?
[03:15] <SonikkuAmerica> When you're done, start the VM by double-clicking on it.
[03:15] <juniorsa> Hi, I installed 12.10 on a system that had hd resolution, and now moved the hard disk into a system that has 1024x768 max resolution and I can't change the resolution of the login screen, I have edited /etc/default/grub and uncommented the GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768 but it doesn't help
[03:15] <SonikkuAmerica> thieh: Not that I know of, unelss you're doing cross-compat with stuff.
[03:15] <juniorsa> I also did a grub-update
[03:15] <peanuter> Reading packages takes far too long. Please check out http://pastebin.com/qY8JKpsf to see my issue with apt-get update
[03:16] <anonymous_> who here is familiar with DDOS  attacks?
[03:16] <peanuter> anonymous_: yo.
[03:16] <anonnn> yo
[03:16] <redheat> Take a look at this beauty SonikkuAmerica, you beautiful genius...http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=11712
[03:16] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: The 1st Run Wiz pops up. Select your Windows 7 ISO in the boot media screen.
[03:16] <SonikkuAmerica> Umm, redheat.... I'm a guy. :)
[03:16] <anonymous_> who ever is familiar with them should pm me
[03:16] <anonnn> with what?
[03:17] <anonymous_> DDOS attacks
[03:17] <anonnn> lol why? are you planning on starting one?
[03:17] <cfhowlett> !ot
[03:17] <anonnn> !ot
[03:17] <anonnn> ?
[03:17] <anonymous_> yupp just a small
[03:17] <redheat> so?!..I still get to hit on the Moderator... especially if we had a long intimate linux time all to ourselves
[03:17] <anonymous_> one
[03:17] <cfhowlett> ddos is not supported here.
[03:17] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: The wonders of sudo.
[03:17] <Tex_Nick> thieh : this might help a bit ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemsExplained ... that link has some good external links also
[03:17] <redheat> yeah..
[03:17] <anonymous_> cfhowlettt fuck off
[03:17] <juniorsa> anyone - resolution of login screen? need to change it to 1024x768 please?
[03:18] <anonymous_> anonnn pm me
[03:18] <cfhowlett> !ops|anonymous_,
[03:18] <redheat> even the look of the VB under the terminal looks like something that crept out of windows 3.1
[03:18] <cfhowlett> ddos + profanity >> anonymous_
[03:18] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Hit "Create" and double-click the VM.
[03:18] <Roenie> juniorsa, there is a "payload" thing for grub, the gfxmode thing is only for the grub screen itself and stops being in effect once that goes away -i don't know the specifics but try googling grub payload
[03:18] <fwilson> elky: thanks :)
[03:18] <redheat> ok
[03:19] <juniorsa> roenie: thanks - I'll look grub payload ok
[03:19] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: 1st run wizard: Select your Windows 7 ISO image in the boot media screen (the 2nd one I think)
[03:20] <anonnn> for the guy wanting the login screen resolution thing check this out - http://askubuntu.com/questions/73804/wrong-login-screen-resolution
[03:20] <redheat> roger that take a look at this http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=11714
[03:20] <thieh> Tex_Nick, Thanks.
[03:20] <SonikkuAmerica> redheat: Once you select that, finish the wizard, boot your VM, install Windows, and you have a working version of Windows 7 on your external HDD.
[03:21] <Tex_Nick> thieh : np ... hope it helps :)
[03:21] <SonikkuAmerica> cfhowlett: I would prob ignore that IP in the future,
[03:21] <cfhowlett> SonikkuAmerica, ya think?
[03:21] <SonikkuAmerica> I did. :)
[03:24] <jakey1> what reason would you need to be logged in as root
[03:24] <cfhowlett> !root|Jakee`_,
[03:25] <jakey1> cfhowlett, everything done with sudo is done as root?
[03:25] <SonikkuAmerica> jakey1: Yep!
[03:25] <cfhowlett> jakey1, indeed
[03:25] <jakey1> whats the difference
[03:26] <jakey1> being logged in as root or using sudo
[03:26] <Brewmaster619> just to be in the sudoers group
[03:26] <jakey1> haha
[03:26] <histo> jakey1: nothing
[03:26] <Brewmaster619> need, that is
[03:26] <histo> !sudo | jakey1
[03:26] <peanuter> lol
[03:26] <peanuter> i love that root quote
[03:26] <SonikkuAmerica> If redheat shows up looking for me, tell him I'll prob be back tomorrow. XD
[03:26] <Brewmaster619> It's more secure; only what you type will get done as root, instead of all of your processes
[03:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Signing off!
[03:27] <philipn> I'm hopelessly struck - anyone know why app menus*aren't* showing up in the top menu in my newly-installed 11.04? Like, all the app menus are either hidden or inside the app itself. Hovering over the top menu bar doesn't show anything, pressing F10 doesn't make anything appear
[03:27] <Brewmaster619> philipn - broken graphics, maybe?
[03:27] <cfhowlett> philipn, 11.04 is end of life.  sorry, no further support on that.  Perhaps you'd like to upgrade??
[03:27] <philipn> 12.04 I mean
[03:28] <philipn> Brewmaster619: everything else seems to be working. looks all transparent and nice
[03:28] <redheat> sorry SonikkuAmerica, I had to restart..a hanging quirk just happened
[03:28] <Brewmaster619> so you can see the launcher on the left side?  You're using Unity, yes?
[03:28] <redheat> lol...
[03:29] <Brewmaster619> "<SonikkuAmerica> If redheat shows up looking for me, tell him I'll prob be back tomorrow. XD"
[03:29] <redheat> I think you'll be off for a week..Thank you So much my friend truly appreciate it buddy..
[03:29] <dr_willis> philipn:  see if a newly made user has issues
[03:29] <philipn> dr_willis: will check now, brb
[03:30] <Brewmaster619> good idea, dr_willis
[03:30] <IdleOne> avis-: Can you now send to channel?
[03:31] <phschwartz_> Hi all. I have a system that has a dense file structure for a big data system off of /var/lib/HPCC. I am seeing while the system is under load if I try to do a chown -R USER:GRP on the dir that it can take 3-4 moin or more to complete. I am doing it to verify that all files and dirs are owned by the correct user/group. I was under the impression that it should be a null op if no change is needed. Is this correct or is there a better
[03:31] <phschwartz_> way to do it?
[03:33] <dr_willis> why would you think its a "null op"  use find to look and see if any files need changed. then change them
[03:33] <jrib> phschwartz_: you could try using "find ! -user blah -exec chmod bleh", but either way (using find or chown) the entire filesystem is going to have to be traversed...
[03:34] <darkhelmet46> Every once in a while, Ubuntu will totally lock up on me for like 10-15 minutes.
[03:35] <jakey1> how do i run a command as a different user is it su -l foo?
[03:35] <phschwartz_> jrib: would that be cleaner then just doing the chown on all to start?
[03:36] <jrib> phschwartz_: I suppose that depends on whether or not chown is a no-op if no change is needed.  I don't know offhand.  This should be something you only do once.    Webcam only displays gray screen.  Same in Cheese and Skype
[03:36] <agu10^> steam is out for linux!!! (:
[03:37] <philipn> Still happening with a new user account. http://mathburritos.org/menu.jpg
[03:37] <phschwartz_> jrib: I was planing on it in the start scripts for the software in case an outside source decided to change file permissions. (probably overkill)
[03:39] <agu10^> I'm trying to enable compiz cube under my ubuntu guest inside virtualbox. But it's not working. not doing anything. Wobbly windows doesn't work either. Any clues?
[03:40] <jrib> jakey1: you can use su with the "-c" switch
[03:40] <jrib> phschwartz_: I don't know the details, but you could use ACLs to ensure some default permissions for files created in a certain directory
[03:40] <cfhowlett> agu10^, virtual gpu may/may not be up to it ...
[03:40] <ansikt> Is there a way to make the appearance application search my wallpapers directory??
[03:40] <phschwartz_> jrib: Any chance you know of any examples I could follow?
[03:40] <cfhowlett> agu10^, but your settings for the VBox should be 2D and 3D enabled
[03:41] <jakey1> jrib, when I do su -l foo I get just $ not foo@bob?
[03:41] <jrib> phschwartz_: man setfacl, man getfacl, man mount (you need to add the "acl" mount option).  I don't know of any short tutorials, but the man pages shouldn't be too painful
[03:41] <jakey1> after i have entered the password
[03:41] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : yesterday you gave me some insight on your experience with the compiz cube and dual monitor setup ... i decided to give it a shot ... with 4 workspaces, the cube automatically turned into an octagonal prism ... 8 faces (sides) with top & bottom
[03:41] <jrib> jakey1: yes, and?
[03:41] <Ubiquity4321> hello all
[03:42] <jakey1> should it not bee foo@bob not just a $
[03:42] <jrib> jakey1: that depends entirely on how foo has setup his shell
[03:42] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : kinda hard to explain what it looks like ... an octagonal prism whirly-ma-gig ? tis kinda cool actually ... just giving a little feedback ... thanks for your thoughts yesterday :)
[03:42] <Ubiquity4321> i've got my first headless server set up
[03:42] <jakey1> I see
[03:42] <phschwartz_> Would doing a find /var/lib/HPCC ! -user USER -exec chown USER:GRP {} \; work?
[03:42] <Ubiquity4321> but I've accidentally banned myself from sshing into it
[03:42] <Ubiquity4321> how can I reset this?
[03:42] <histo> Ubiquity4321: How did you ban yourself?
[03:43] <phschwartz_> I want to try that before I start trying acl's
[03:43] <Ubiquity4321> too many invalid passwords
[03:43] <agu10^> I'm trying to enable compiz cube under my ubuntu guest inside virtualbox. But it's not working. not doing anything. Wobbly windows doesn't work either. Any clues? Both 2D and 3D acceleration on virtualbox are enabled. I have been able to do this in the past. The virtual GPU is fine for this.
[03:43] <Ubiquity4321> i forgot that I changed it to a $ instead of a %
[03:43] <histo> Ubiquity4321: Ahh fail2ban?
[03:43] <dr_willis> you got physical access to the box? Ubiquity4321
[03:43] <Ubiquity4321> i'm talking from the box
[03:43] <jrib> phschwartz_: sure but that only checks for ownership.  Maybe you care if a file does not have the right group too
[03:43] <Ubiquity4321> found an old crt monitor
[03:43] <histo> Ubiquity4321: Are you using fail2ban?
[03:43] <Ubiquity4321> i am not
[03:43] <Ubiquity4321> that I know of
[03:44] <dr_willis> what are yu using then
[03:44] <Ubiquity4321> just vanilla openssh
[03:44] <Ubiquity4321> i guess
[03:44] <histo> Ubiquity4321: Well using the wrong password will not ban you by default
[03:44] <phschwartz_> jrib: I think ownership would be fine as it is setting it to the service user that the software runs as
[03:44] <Ubiquity4321> then i guess ive got to figure out why I suddenly can't ssh into the box...
[03:45] <histo> Ubiquity4321: check with netstat if it's still listening.
[03:45] <histo> Ubiquity4321: also try and ssh username@localhost since you are on the box now.
[03:45] <Ubiquity4321> histo: how do I do that?
[03:46] <Ubiquity4321> babby's first server, sorry
[03:46] <histo> Ubiquity4321: netstat -tan
[03:46] <Ubiquity4321> histo: it's listening to all and established to one
[03:46] <zteam> Hi guys!
[03:46] <Ubiquity4321> hi!
[03:46] <histo> Ubiquity4321: do you see a service listening on port :22
[03:47] <Brewmaster619> hi
[03:47] <Ubiquity4321> histo: i've changed it to listen to port 2225
[03:47] <Ubiquity4321> and it's listening on that
[03:47] <zteam> Is there any way to speed up a VM with Virtualbox?
[03:47] <Ubiquity4321> i'm using PuTTY on windows
[03:47] <agu10^> I'm trying to enable compiz cube under my ubuntu guest inside virtualbox. But it's not working. not doing anything. Wobbly windows doesn't work either. Any clues? Both 2D and 3D acceleration on virtualbox are enabled. I have been able to do this in the past. The virtual GPU is fine for this.
[03:47] <Ubiquity4321> zteam: more ram
[03:47] <zteam> I think it runs way too sloow
[03:47] <ansikt> Symlinking my ~/Pictures/Wallpapers to /usr/share/backgrounds didn't add them to the default directory.  Is there another method or plugin to do this?  I want it to function like the Nitrogen program, if anyone's familiar with that.
[03:47] <histo> Ubiquity4321: So you can log into the box locally?
[03:48] <zteam> Ubiquity4321, it has 1 GB RAM for the VM only of course
[03:48] <Ubiquity4321> I am able to access files via samba
[03:48] <Ubiquity4321> histo: but not able to ssh into it
[03:48] <Ubiquity4321> i dont know if that answered your question
[03:49] <histo> Ubiquity4321: Can you logg into to it locally?  You said you plugged a monitor into it right?
[03:49] <Ubiquity4321> histo: I am talking from the box right now
[03:49] <histo> Ubiquity4321: okay open a terminal and ssh username@localhost
[03:49] <Brewmaster619> ansikt, why not use Nitrogen?
[03:50] <jakey1> jrib, what am is saying with su -c ‘foo -l example.txt’?
[03:50] <lazer>  /nick lasers
[03:50] <ansikt> Brewmaster619:  Good question.  Perhaps I'll try that.  When I used Nitrogen with KDE, I found that it worked, but didn't work entirely the same as the native app...I'll try it and report back, but I'll like to get native working if possible
[03:51] <jakey1> what am is saying with "su -c ‘foo -l example.txt’"?
[03:51] <agu10^> I'm trying to enable compiz cube under my ubuntu guest inside virtualbox. But it's not working. not doing anything. Wobbly windows doesn't work either. Any clues? Both 2D and 3D acceleration on virtualbox are enabled. I have been able to do this in the past. The virtual GPU is fine for this.
[03:51] <Ubiquity4321> histo: what is "localhost" supposed to be substituted with?
[03:51] <histo> ubuntulog: nothing type it as localhost
[03:51] <Ubiquity4321> ok
[03:52] <Brewmaster619> ansikt, Actually, I'd kind of like to do something similar myself, just haven't gotten around to messing with it
[03:52] <Ubiquity4321> histo: localhost  port 22 connection refused
[03:53] <histo> Ubiquity4321: ssh username@localhost:2225
[03:53] <Brewmaster619> he changed the port to 2225
[03:53] <zteam> Aarggh.....
[03:53] <Ubiquity4321> histo: name or service not known
[03:53] <Ubiquity4321> wtf?
[03:53] <histo> Ubiquity4321: ssh username@localhost -p 2225
[03:53] <histo> sorry
[03:54] <zteam> Trying out Ubuntu 13.04 daliy in Testdrive it doesn't even start the application I click on at all
[03:54] <zteam> any suggestions?
[03:54] <Ubiquity4321> histo: am able to log in
[03:54] <histo> !raring | zteam
[03:54] <Ubiquity4321> how do i close this ssh session?
[03:54] <histo> Ubiquity4321: Okay try and login from putty now.
[03:54] <histo> Ubiquity4321: ctrl+d or type exit
[03:55] <zteam> histo, okey, thanks
[03:55] <Ubiquity4321> histo: server unexpectedly closed network connection
[03:56] <histo> Ubiquity4321: if you try from putty?
[03:56] <Ubiquity4321> histo: yes
[03:56] <Brewmaster619> of course there's nobody on #ubuntu+1
[03:56] <histo> Ubiquity4321: Are you using the port 2225 in putty?
[03:56] <Ubiquity4321> histo: yes
[03:57] <Ubiquity4321> histo: correct local ip as well
[03:57] <histo> Ubiquity4321: on the windows machine make sure you can ping the ip
[03:58] <Ubiquity4321> histo: sent 4 received 4
[03:58] <histo> Ubiquity4321: on the server sudo tail /var/log/auth.log
[03:58] <Ubiquity4321> histo: using cygwin (dont know if that makes a diff)
[03:58] <marcanuy> when using diff, how to ignore files that differs in just one line of the form "2012" instead of "2013" ?
[03:59] <BobLfoot> I am running 12.04.01 LTS - i386 fully updated as an Oracle VirtualBox Guest on a Windows 7 host.  TF2 was installed from Steam and is also current.    What would be a logical next step to troubleshoot?
[03:59] <Ubiquity4321> histo: i'm on cli and not used to it 100% yet. how can i copy and paste the output?
[03:59] <histo> Ubiquity4321: you could install pastebinit
[04:00] <histo> Ubiquity4321: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo tail /var/log/auth.log | pastebinit
[04:01] <ansikt> Ubiquity4321: Copy it like normal, then "middle click" in the terminal
[04:01] <agu10^> I'm trying to enable compiz cube under my ubuntu guest inside virtualbox. But it's not working. not doing anything. Wobbly windows doesn't work either. Any clues? Both 2D and 3D acceleration on virtualbox are enabled. I have been able to do this in the past. The virtual GPU is fine for this.
[04:01] <baobeiiii> what i type to install a .repo
[04:02] <baobeiiii> on command line
[04:02] <Ubiquity4321> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1675525/
[04:02] <cfhowlett> !repo
[04:03] <Ubiquity4321> histo: it refused the connection from <IP_ADDRESS> (windows laptop via PuTTY)
[04:03] <histo> Ubiquity4321: does it say why?
[04:03] <Ubiquity4321> you are seeing what I see
[04:03] <Ubiquity4321> i have no clue
[04:03] <Ubiquity4321> is there a log I can view?
[04:04] <histo> Ubiquity4321: yeah sudo tail -n 20 /var/log/auth.log | pastebinit
[04:04] <histo> There maybe more info further up
[04:05] <julian-delphiki> agu10^, have you installed vbox guest additions?
[04:05] <agu10^> julian-delphiki, yes i have
[04:05] <Ubiquity4321> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1675536
[04:06] <Ubiquity4321> histo: there on line 9 is the only thing i see
[04:07] <Ubiquity4321> histo: i can clear the log in my router and reconnect. maybe i'll get a different local ip?
[04:09] <Ubiquity4321> histo: that worked actually
[04:09] <histo> Ubiquity4321: in your sshd_config what do you have listen address as?
[04:09] <Ubiquity4321> histo: so how can I unban <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:09] <histo> Ubiquity4321: What worked?
[04:09] <histo> Ubiquity4321: sudo fail2ban-client status
[04:10] <Ubiquity4321> histo: command not found
[04:10] <Ubiquity4321> histo: deleted my laptops entry in the routers dhcp client table
[04:10] <Ubiquity4321> and it was given a new local addy .1.104
[04:11] <histo> Ubiquity4321: Not sure why it was denying connections. ssh by itself doesn't ban people for wrong password attempts. YOu must have installed some other package if that is the case
[04:11] <Ubiquity4321> hmmm
[04:11] <Ubiquity4321> histo: sshd_config command not found
[04:11] <Ubiquity4321> huh
[04:11] <dr_willis> ls -l  /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[04:12] <histo> Ubiquity4321: try sudo iptables --list
[04:12] <dr_willis> sshd_config is Not a command.. its a config  file
[04:12] <histo> Ubiquity4321: actually sudo iptables --list | pastebinit
[04:13] <Ubiquity4321> dr_willis: thank you dr
[04:13] <Ubiquity4321> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1675554
[04:13] <alcuadrado> where can I find out which version/versions of GTK come installed in (x)ubuntu 12.04?
[04:14] <computerex> synaptic?
[04:14] <alcuadrado> I don't have ubuntu ATM
[04:15] <histo> Ubiquity4321: sudo pastebinit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[04:15] <dr_willis> theres the ubuntu package sites
[04:15] <alcuadrado> yep, I'm browsing it
[04:15] <alcuadrado> but afaik it doesn't tell you which come installed
[04:15] <Ubiquity4321> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1675559
[04:17] <histo> Ubiquity4321: I don't see anythign that would have been blocking that other box
[04:17] <Ubiquity4321> alcuadrado: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=list+versions+of+gtk
[04:18] <Ubiquity4321> histo: is there any other way I can determine how it's blocking that ip?
[04:18] <Ubiquity4321> it's just <IP_ADDRESS> that it's blocking i think...
[04:18] <alcuadrado> Ubiquity4321, WTF man? lol
[04:19] <alcuadrado> I made a clear and reasonable question
[04:19] <alcuadrado> of course I googled about it first
[04:19] <Ubiquity4321> alcuadrado: dont listen to me, i'm a noob
[04:19] <Ubiquity4321> alcuadrado: sorry, dont know what came over me
[04:19] <alcuadrado> haha, ok, never mind
[04:20] <ansikt> Ubiquity4321: Are there any firewalls installed?  Could you have accidentally forgotten to turn on sshd?
[04:20] <histo> !info gtk precise | alucard_
[04:20] <Ubiquity4321> ansikt: i dont believe there are any firewalls installed
[04:20] <Ubiquity4321> ansikt: it's just vanilla 12.04 server with samba and ssh_server
[04:21] <ansikt> Ubiquity4321:  Yes, but did you start sshd?
[04:21] <histo> alucard_: I see gtk2 and gtk3 libs
[04:21] <Ubiquity4321> ansikt: well, see I dont know
[04:21] <Ubiquity4321> ansikt: i'm not sure how to even attempt that
[04:21] <histo> Ubiquity4321: I think it may have been a typo
[04:22] <Ubiquity4321> histo: howso?
[04:22] <ansikt> Ubiquity4321: "$ sudo service ssh status" or something of the like.
[04:22] <ansikt> Or more reliably "ps aux | grep ssh"
[04:23] <histo> Ubiquity4321: Because I don't see anything that would be blocking it.
[04:23] <waspinator> hi, I'
[04:23] <ansikt> That last one should return something along the lines of sshd, if it's running.
[04:23] <Ubiquity4321> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1675578
[04:23] <Ubiquity4321> err
[04:23] <waspinator> I'm trying to install something using an install script, but it only runs if I run it without sudo. otherwise it says command not found. what could be the issue?
[04:23] <Ubiquity4321> ansikit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1675578
[04:23] <Ubiquity4321> crap
[04:24] <ansikt> Ubiquity4321:  Or you could check if anything's listening on port 22 at all.  Try "ss -lp"
[04:24] <ansikt> waspinator:  What is the exact command you are trying to run?
[04:24] <Ubiquity4321> ansikt: it's port 2225, but lemmie check
[04:24] <waspinator> ansikt ./install
[04:25] <waspinator> that works
[04:25] <waspinator> sudo ./install doesn't
[04:25] <Ubiquity4321> ansikt: it's listening on 2225
[04:25] <Tex_Nick> Ubiquity4321:  i haven't been following your wentire thread ... looks like <IP_ADDRESS> is blocked, as you say ? ... have you tried a packet sniffer such as wireshark ?
[04:25] <Ubiquity4321> Tex_Nick: i have not
[04:25] <ansikt> try pwd ./install to get its full path, then run sudo using the full path
[04:26] <silverone> Hello !
[04:26] <PadNet_201> hi
[04:26] <silverone> could anyone tell me where i can edit the grub.cfg
[04:26] <Tex_Nick> Ubiquity4321:  that's what packet sniffers are really good for
[04:27] <waspinator> ansikt: command not found
[04:27] <Ubiquity4321> histo, ansikt, Tex_Nick: is there an ip table or some sort of host denying file that I'm not aware of?
[04:28] <vedic> Hey friends, I want to remove (purge) popularity contest from my Ubuntu Lucid 64bit. Is there any harm in removing it via apt? I don't want cron job running this and if it is disabled, why should I keep it. So how to purge it?
[04:28] <Tex_Nick> the hosts file ?
[04:28] <vedic> I have simulated purging popularity contest and I see it also remove ubuntu-standard
[04:29] <Ubiquity4321> Tex_Nick: where is the default location of the hosts file?
[04:30] <silverone> Hello! Could anyone tell me how to edit grub files?
[04:30] <vedic> Ubiquity4321: /etc/hosts
[04:30] <Ubiquity4321> vedic: thanks
[04:31] <zykotick9> vedic: first verify it's not a requirement of something else with "apt-cache rdepends popularity-contest"... you already found it ;)
[04:31] <Ubiquity4321> Tex_Nick: nothing in the hosts file about it...
[04:32] <vedic> zykotick9: I depends on Ubuntu Standard and debian goodies
[04:32] <Ubiquity4321> aha! found it
[04:32] <Ubiquity4321> /etc/hosts.deny has <IP_ADDRESS> listed for some odd reason
[04:33] <Ubiquity4321> curses i've forgotten how to use vim again...
[04:33] <vedic> zykotick9: It depends on Ubuntu Standard and debian goodies
[04:33] <zykotick9> vedic: i'd leave it if i where you.  good luck.
[04:33] <vedic> zykotick9: letting know the reasons would be much better
[04:34] <Tex_Nick> Ubiquity4321:  sorry had to run off ... /etc/hosts is used to block ip's, url's
[04:34] <Ubiquity4321> Tex_Nick: found it man
[04:34] <Ubiquity4321> Tex_Nick: /etc/hosts.deny had that specific local ip blocked
[04:34] <Tex_Nick> ah ok just scrolled up
[04:34] <Ubiquity4321> though I have no clue how it did it
[04:34] <zykotick9> vedic: there must be some way to disable it without removing it.  i haven't found it yet...
[04:34] <Ubiquity4321> i dont have fail2ban
[04:35] <kunji> !grub2 | silverone
[04:35] <Tex_Nick> so you found it then ?
[04:35] <Ubiquity4321> histo: your help has been indispensible
[04:35]  * zykotick9 thinks fail2ban is really cool for ssh servers
[04:35] <kunji> silverone: It's all well documented at those 2 links
[04:35] <Ubiquity4321> i should probably install fail2ban then...
[04:35] <Ubiquity4321> it's probably easier than all this running around nonsense
[04:35] <silverone> ubottu: i'm screwing around grub2 at mac os x. i managed to install it without using the mac version, which would not give me EFI
[04:36] <wrektjet> how do you kill by process id again?
[04:36] <Ubiquity4321> ansikt: your help is appreciated. very much so
[04:36] <Ubiquity4321> Tex_Nick: thank you very very much
[04:36] <silverone> kunji: i'm screwing around grub2 at mac os x. i managed to install it without using the mac version, which would not give me EFI
[04:36] <vedic> zykotick9: As I said earlier, if you are going to disable it, why not remove it?
[04:36] <silverone> kunji: sorry on an apple mbp 8,2
[04:37] <Ubiquity4321> sudo aptitude install fail2ban
[04:37] <Tex_Nick> Ubiquity4321:  np hope that pointed ya in a good direction;)
[04:37] <Ubiquity4321> oooops
[04:37] <silverone> kunji: thank you
[04:38] <kunji> silverone: This channel is only for Ubuntu support, if you're not running Ubuntu you should probably look for future help elsewhere, I think Grub2 has it's own channel (most likely, I haven't actually checked).
[04:38] <zykotick9> vedic: cause some low level stuff requires it.  it's possible, but a pain.  good luck.
[04:38] <silverone> kunji: i am running ubuntu on my macbook pro, it is not virtualized in parallels. sorry, i'm kind of a irc virgin.
[04:39] <vedic> zykotick9: That is what I wanted to know what is that low level stuff? Doesn't seem any good reason why to keep it
[04:39] <silverone> kunji: currently it's very hard to get hybrid graphics on this thing, it requires you to compile the kernel so ... poor me :(
[04:40] <zykotick9> vedic: idk, it's all up to you.  but when you try and remove it doesn't it want to remove a bunch of your system?  if it's only a couple of nothing packages - go for it.  i don't see the point myself.
[04:40] <kunji> silverone: Yeah, I know what you mean, just keep it in mind for the future, I just checked, you should be able to get further help with grub2 in #grub  Do you know how to switch channels?
[04:41] <chaitanya> when is the mobile update is coming out?
[04:41] <silverone> kunji: not really, i'm using smuxi and pretty much just landed here
[04:41] <histo> !phone | chaitanya
[04:41] <chaitanya> ahh ok ..
[04:44] <Ubiquity4321> i've set up fail2ban
[04:44] <twoflowers> is there a command line or possibly a wget command that can be used to see if the version of an lts has been updated?
[04:44] <kunji> silverone: Ah, sorry, lost track of the conversation for a sec.  You can join another channel like this: "/join channelname"
[04:44] <Ubiquity4321> again, thank you so much
[04:44] <Ubiquity4321> this has been a thorn in my side for a week now
[04:44] <Ubiquity4321> goodnight
[04:45] <silverone> kunji: alright thank you :)
[04:45] <kunji> silverone: Also here's some documentation smuxi referenced: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[04:45] <kunji> silverone: no problem ^_^
[04:47] <silverone> kunhi: thank you i will switch shortly :)
[04:47] <silverone> kunji: thank you i will switch shortly :)
[04:48] <histo> silverone: /join #chanelname
[04:49] <vedic> How to update security only patches via apt-get?
[04:49] <histo> silverone: cat /etc/issue
[04:49] <vedic> Or how to stop linux kernel/headers getting update when update via apt-get
[04:50] <silverone> histo: hey are you asking me to run that? returned: Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[04:50] <Abhijit> vedic, http://askubuntu.com/search?q=only+security+update
[04:51] <histo> silverone: Oh I thought you wanted the version of your currently installed sysstem
[04:51] <silverone> histo: that was definitively not me my friend :)
[04:52] <Juest> Hello, when i enabled the propiertary driver kms got disabled, help?
[04:52] <Juest> and i think the splash no longer works
[04:52] <histo> silverone: nvm Got confused there. /join #channelname   will join a different irc channel substitute for the name of the channel you want to join.
[04:52] <Juest> Help me?
[04:53] <histo> vedic: are you doing safe-upgrade  ?
[04:53] <silverone> histo: thank you :)
[04:53] <myersg> ok, how do I properly install a old kernel, I need to install the kernel that came with ubuntu 11.10, on ubuntu 12.10
[04:53] <vedic> histo: I believe safe upgrade will also do kernel header upgrade
[04:53] <vedic> so no
[04:53] <Juest> myersg: Why?
[04:54] <myersg> my sound isn't working..
[04:54] <Juest> lol
[04:54] <myersg> and yes, it worked then, I found out its the kernel
[04:54] <histo> vedic: Is there a reason you don't want to upgrade the kernel?
[04:54] <vedic> histo: many
[04:54] <Juest> can someone help me?
[04:54] <histo> !downgrade > myersg
[04:54] <vedic> histo: few package are compiled with current linux headers
[04:54] <histo> !patience | Juest
[04:54] <vedic> that would break if I upgrade kenel headers
[04:55] <histo> vedic: It will break if you upgrade the kernel.
[04:55] <myersg> so should, I just go back to use 11.10?
[04:55] <myersg> but the problem being, its not supported in another 2 months
[04:55] <Juest> when i activated propieraty driver in 12.10 kms broke and i think splash doesn't work anymore, help me please?
[04:55] <histo> vedic: You can either rebuild the packages each kernel upgrade or pin the current running kernel
[04:55] <Juest> btw, old kernels are kept on upgrade
[04:55] <Juest> well
[04:56] <histo> !pin | vedic
[04:56] <histo> myersg: You should probably try and see if a bug has been filed for your soundcard and see if a fix is released
[04:56] <histo> !bug | myersg
[04:56] <myersg> old kernels are kept if I upgrade? so if i install 11.10, and upgrade to 12.10 will the kernel stay?
[04:57] <vedic> histo: then manually clean new kernel header? Else will keep occupying space
[04:58] <krazykov> hi
[04:59] <Juest> Where's my answer?
[04:59] <histo> vedic: It's not the kernel header that's the issue. IT's the kernel
[05:00] <vedic> histo: 1) Its both 2) pinning is not advised as I read the link you sent. I may break other things
[05:01] <holstein> Juest: did you have a volunteer helping you? maybe just state your question again for one of the volunteers to pick up.. and try exercising as much patience as possible.. thanks
[05:01] <Juest> oh well
[05:01] <Juest> no one seem to care
[05:01] <liupeng> hi
[05:01] <Ubiquity4321> hello again
[05:01] <Ubiquity4321> have another question
[05:02] <histo> !ask
[05:02] <cfhowlett> liupeng, nihao
[05:02] <Ubiquity4321> running 12.04 server as a headless file server
[05:02] <Ubiquity4321> it has a 320gb ntfs formatted drive on it
[05:02] <Juest> i have activated propetary graphics driver and kms broke and i think splsh stopped working, how i fix this without going to radeon? im on acer aspire one 722 with amd radeon hd 6250 gpu on 12.10, ah, and i think compiz is failing
[05:03] <holstein> Juest: kms?
[05:03] <holstein> you think?
[05:03] <Juest> Yea, that automatic resolution
[05:03] <Ubiquity4321> leftover from a broken external hdd i had at one point
[05:03] <holstein> what is splsh? and is it working or not?
[05:03] <Juest> Kernel ModeSet
[05:03] <Juest> the ubuntu thing with the bar
[05:03] <Ubiquity4321> am I able to defragment this hdd at all
[05:03] <rkhshm> i have written a program with aio_read and aio_write is there any way i can test that using IOMETER?
[05:03] <holstein> Juest: thing? feel free and use screenshots to help the volunteers understand you
[05:03] <rkhshm> i'm really new to this so any help would be deeply helpful
[05:04] <Juest> (oh god, this going to be hard)
[05:04] <holstein> Juest: just remove the driver if its givving you issues
[05:04] <Juest> uhh, remember that when you boot ubuntu it automatically changes resolutions and appears ubuntu logo?
[05:05] <holstein> Juest: i dont understand what you are asking anyone to "remember"
[05:05] <Juest> holstein: Im trying to keep the propetary driver because it haves better perfomance, i only want to fix the problems with it
[05:05] <Juest> uhhhhhhh
[05:05] <Juest> holstein: are you newbie or what?
[05:05] <holstein> Juest: i would say, it is not, if it is breaking things.. "better" might be the other driver.. the open one
[05:05] <Juest> you seem to never used ubuntu
[05:05] <kunji> Juest: Shouldn't you check what's in your logs (if anything) before speculating?
[05:05] <cfhowlett> Juest, you mean the ubuntu "splash" display.  and ease up on the attitude please.  We're all volunteers here.
[05:05] <holstein> Juest: enjoy!.. try and wait patiently for another volunteer :)
[05:06] <Juest> cfhowlett: yea
[05:06] <MK`> I have a .deb file that I wanted to install, but it has dependencies that conflict with other essential packages on my system. Is it possible to extract the .deb and just run the program as a binary?
[05:06] <Ubiquity4321> histo: sorry
[05:06] <rkhshm> any ideas guys?
[05:06] <histo> Ubiquity4321: for?
[05:06] <holstein> MK`: might be.. is there no ppa for it?
[05:06] <cfhowlett> MK`, possible: yes.  adviseable?  ....
[05:07] <MK`> No PPA no :P
[05:07] <histo> Ubiquity4321: there are ntfs tools to try and defrag your drive might be possible with those.
[05:07] <holstein> :/
[05:07] <Arandur> Is this the appropriate place to ask for support? Or is this simply a conversation channel?
[05:07] <cfhowlett> rkhshm, pretty esoteric request.  Sorry,
[05:07] <histo> Ubiquity4321: I would switch it to a ext4 partition though and not worry about it.
[05:07] <cfhowlett> Arandur, yes this is support - askk
[05:07] <Juest> how i access software sources? "shell" is "broken"'
[05:07] <kunji> MK`: If you don't have the dependencies I don't think it would work even if you extracted it though.. unless they've taken some liberty with what a dependency is
[05:07] <rkhshm> cfhowlett: can you let me know which would be an appropriate channel at least
[05:07] <holstein> rkhshm: i might go to the language you are using.. the support channel for that language
[05:08] <rkhshm> ok thanks
[05:08] <holstein> Juest: i use the command line, or synaptic to see/edit sources
[05:08] <Arandur> Just installed Ubuntu 12.10 on a Dell laptop, dual-booting with Windows 7. Ubuntu cannot detect any wireless networks. How can I fix this issue?
[05:09] <MK`> kunji: I'm on 64-bit Ubuntu. It's a 32-bit program that depends on 32-bit xdg-utils, so when I installed it earlier it threw an error saying my software index was broken and asked if I wanted to uninstall half my programs, including ubuntu-desktop. I said no, and uninstalled the initial package. But I still want to find a way to use it
[05:09] <holstein> Arandur: i would try and wire it up, and see if you are offered any extra drivers...
[05:09] <Ubiquity4321> I am running 12.04 server. It has a NTFS formatted drive on it, but it isn't the main drive. Is there a way I can defragment the drive either remotely from windows or directly on linux?
[05:09] <histo> MK`: What version of ubuntu are you on?
[05:09] <MK`> 11.04
[05:09] <kunji> MK`: Hmm, are you using apt-get?  You should be if you're doing multi-arch stuff.
[05:10] <holstein> Ubiquity4321: not that i would trust, or am aware of.. i would want to defrag natively
[05:10] <MK`> I am
[05:10] <cfhowlett> MK`, 11.04 is end of life , you know ...
[05:10] <MK`> I know
[05:10] <Arandur> I'm wired up now, and nothing's obviously popped up at me. Is there some way to manually initiate a driver search? I should note that, upon initial installation, it detected the wireless networks fine; it was only after the initial restart that it was no longer able to.
[05:10] <cfhowlett> Arandur, settings > check additional drivers
[05:10] <Juest> well
[05:10] <kunji> MK`: Hmm, well, that may be the way to go, though grabbing the source seems perhaps simpler
[05:11] <MK`> A friend told me it's because if you install 32-bit xdg-utils, it will force everything else that uses xdg-tils to use 32-bit
[05:11] <Juest> how i can get native res on console?
[05:11] <histo> Ubiquity4321: No I guess you cant defrag ntfs in linux
[05:11] <Arandur> cfhowlett, by 'settings' do you mean 'System Settings'?
[05:11] <MK`> which is of course not feasible for me
[05:11] <cfhowlett> Arandur, correct
[05:11] <Juest> how i can debug the problems with propetary driver?
[05:11] <holstein> !tty | Juest
[05:11] <cfhowlett> Juest, go to support from the package maintainer
[05:11] <holstein> Juest: you mean, tty resolution?
[05:12] <Juest> yea, but it should be autodetected
[05:12] <kunji> MK`: Ah, that's too bad, wish I could help more, but I don't remember much about deb packing
[05:12] <Arandur> cfhowlett, I do not see an option by that name. The closest I see is "Network".
[05:12] <MK`> alright
[05:12] <histo> MK`: You need to upgrade
[05:12] <MK`> Pretty sure it's a fail dependency. And I am aware, I am just unable to right now
[05:12] <histo> !eol | MK`
[05:12] <holstein> Juest: i usually just file bugs, and move on.. hte proprietary drivers and just that.. propietary.. not many folks can or will be able to do anything about the issues you have
[05:12] <Ubiquity4321> I guess I'll have to find a different way then
[05:12] <Ubiquity4321> thank you!
[05:13] <cfhowlett> Arandur, nope.  look around.  you want to check for "additional drivers"
[05:13] <Juest> can i get "fixed" driver from amd by installing catalyst?
[05:13] <cfhowlett> settings/system somewhere
[05:13] <histo> !sound > myersg
[05:14] <histo> MK`: Also what package are you trying to install by the way?
[05:14] <Arandur> cfhowlett, there are 24 icons in the System Settings window, divided into three sections: Personal, Hardware, and System. None of these icons say anything about drivers. Am I in the wrong place?
[05:14] <histo> !ati > Juest
[05:14] <holstein> Juest: you can try.. amd maintains that.. not sure if it supports your hardware or not.. but it wont hurt to try it
[05:14] <MK`> histo: it's an emulator called Gens/GS
[05:14] <twoflowers> is there a quick and dirty way to find what version is currently the latest LTS from a remote site?
[05:14] <Juest> i can't open links right now
[05:15] <holstein> twoflowers: 12.04
[05:15] <Juest> on irssi dOH
[05:15] <kunji> Arandur: Go to Software Sources
[05:15] <cfhowlett> Arandur, I have a different setup as I'm on xubuntu.  ask in the channel
[05:15] <cfhowlett> twoflowers, 12.04.2
[05:15] <twoflowers> holstein, cfhowlett, thanks, that I know, but I am looking to script it
[05:15] <Arandur> kunji, got it, and found the "Additional Drivers" tab, thanks.
[05:15] <Arandur> cfhowlett, thanks for the help.
[05:15] <kunji> Arrandur: Yep, no problem ^_^
[05:16] <holstein> twoflowers: 10.04, then 12.04.. 14.04, hopefully
[05:16] <holstein> twoflowers: AFAIK, that could be changed.. anytime...
[05:16] <cfhowlett> Arandur, best of luck.  FWIW, I suspect you have a broadcom wifi card which sometimes requires post-installation configuration to activate
[05:17] <kunji> holstein: I suppose they could change it for 14.04, but there hasn't been any indication of that as far as I know.
[05:17] <holstein> twoflowers: its typically every 2 years... 12.04.. april (04) of 2012 (12) .. and so on.. but it could change
[05:17] <Arandur> cfhowlett, that is correct. "Broadcom Corporation: BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller". How can I configure this?
[05:17] <Juest> How i make root appear available to login on lightdm?
[05:17] <cfhowlett> !broadcom|Arandur,
[05:17] <holstein> kunji: im just saying, in the interest of a script, its not "in stone"
[05:17] <cfhowlett> !root|Juest,
[05:17] <twoflowers> holstein, that i know, i am looking for more of the 12.04.x release number
[05:17] <kunji> holstein: Right
[05:17] <Arandur> ubottu, Thank you.
[05:18] <twoflowers> the .x is what I am worried about
[05:18] <holstein> twoflowers: those come in order too.. unless they dont
[05:18] <Arandur> Oh, hey, that's a bot. Derp.
[05:18] <Arandur> cfhowlett, thank you.
[05:18] <Juest> cfhowlett: lol, i got over it
[05:18] <cfhowlett> Arandur, no worries
[05:18] <holstein> twoflowers: on some level, they are version #'s that could change.. though they likely wont
[05:18] <Tex_Nick> Ubiquity4321 : i've done that with both remote desktop and VNC
[05:19] <MK`> Oh I'm sorry did I say 11.04? I'm on 11.10. It's not EOL until April right?
[05:19] <kunji> twoflowers: Oh, those are minor releases... hmm, just updating would bring you to the newest.  I'm not exactly sure if it is even tracked which of those you're on.
[05:19] <MK`> I was on 11.04 for a while, I keep thinking I'm still on that
[05:19] <Juest> Why gnome-shell doesn't load properly logging from lightdm?
[05:20] <Juest> hmmm, why screens keeps black til system is done?
[05:20] <Juest> and now gnome-shell crashed
[05:20] <twoflowers> kunji, holstein I am looking for a way to dynamically pull down the latest release, the problem I see is that the minor releases get bumped and then the script breaks
[05:20] <Juest> Help!?
[05:20] <holstein> Juest: just from lightdm? it loads eventually? how is it broken? have you tried as another user?
[05:21] <twoflowers> and this is for server edition too
[05:21] <Juest> lol
[05:21] <kunji> twoflowers: Ah, hmm, maybe just match with a regular expression?
[05:21] <Juest> ummmm
[05:21] <Juest> nevermind
[05:21] <Juest> it was screen black on loading
[05:21] <twoflowers> kunji, not a bad thought
[05:21] <Juest> and then send report appeared
[05:21] <histo> !enter | Juest
[05:21] <Juest> and then gksu hides the bar
[05:21] <holstein> Juest: the bar?
[05:22] <twoflowers> kunji, actually i am going to run with that. thanks
[05:22] <Juest> i think my ubuntu is very bad ibstalled
[05:23] <Juest> original packages in the os are cd ones
[05:23] <Juest> had upgraded
[05:23] <Juest> and added
[05:23] <histo> !enter > Juest
[05:23] <Juest> wtf
[05:23] <holstein> Juest: if you would, try and type more before hitting the enter key.. as the PM and the message above requests.. thanks
[05:23] <histo> Juest: remove the cdrom from your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:24] <Juest> oh well, cdrom is not there, lol oh
[05:24] <histo> Juest: deb-cd  or something like that.
[05:24] <histo> Juest: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:25] <Juest> cdrom is not there
[05:25] <Juest> and when i do apt-update it says i should use apt-cdrom,
[05:26] <Juest> im on 12.10
[05:26] <Juest> histo: ^
[05:26] <histo> Juest: can you sudo apt-get install pastebinit and run the command above so we can take a look at your sources.list
[05:26] <Juest> it's default
[05:26] <Juest> checked myself
[05:26] <cfhowlett> Juest, you have your software sources set to look on the cdrom.   clear that out and it'll look elsewhere
[05:27] <Juest> that's done already, nevermind, doh
[05:27] <Juest> it's not even listed on software sources
[05:27] <histo> Juest: then look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[05:29] <ubuntuw1204> should i use ubuntu 12.10 or 12.04?
[05:30] <Juest> oh well, this system is already configured to use internet not cd
[05:30] <Juest> ubuntuw1204: 12.04 as your nick says
[05:30] <histo> ubuntuw1204: What are you doing with it?
[05:30] <histo> Juest: Can you pastebin the error/message you are getting
[05:31] <Juest> NO errors, and sources.list.d doesn't exist
[05:31] <_Dude_> has anyone managed to get steam to install on ubuntu 12.04.2 without it trying to remove a bunch of stuff? looks like it tries to downgrade the xorg server to the version that comes with 12.04.1
[05:31] <_Dude_> seems like multiarch is broken
[05:32] <histo> Juest: sources.list.d  is a directory. Inside of it you will find other sources files
[05:32] <Juest> oh wait
[05:32] <ubuntuw1204> histo: i want to stay updated
[05:32] <Juest> it's an empty folder
[05:32] <histo> ubuntuw1204: What are you going to be using the computer for?
[05:32] <Juest> ubuntuw1204: get 12.10 :P
[05:33] <ubuntuw1204> histo: i use it for basic everyday work ,internet, gimp, inkscape, office, etc
[05:33] <histo> ubuntuw1204: 12.04 is lts 12.10 is just a regular release
[05:33] <histo> !lts | ubuntuw1204
[05:33] <_Dude_> that needs to be updated
[05:33] <_Dude_> it's now 5 years desktop and server
[05:33] <histo> _Dude_: it says that.
[05:33] <histo> if you read passed the exception line
[05:33] <_Dude_> oh duh
[05:33] <_Dude_> sorry i didn't read the whole thing lol
[05:34] <ubuntuw1204> histo: what is the genral practice to upgrade every 6 months
[05:34] <ubuntuw1204> histo: how can i quickstart libreoffice
[05:35] <Juest> im using gnome-shell and no menus appear
[05:35] <Juest> is that a bug?
[05:35] <Juest> or i have to uninstall unity?
[05:35] <Tex_Nick> ubuntuw1204:  12.10 won't give you more for what you want to do ... 12.04 provides long term support
[05:35] <cfhowlett> ubuntuw1204, why upgrade every 6 months?
[05:36] <cfhowlett> ubuntuw1204, unless you actually NEED the bleeding edge, install LTS, maintain it and install the next LTS in 2 years ... or keep it for it's lifetime of 36 - 60 months
[05:37] <jakey1> do people prefer to run ubuntu with a virtual machine of windows or the other way round?
[05:38] <cfhowlett> jakey1, no polls please.
[05:38] <cfhowlett> jakey1, but if you have an actual "how do I ...?"
[05:38] <jakey1> is it better to run ubuntu with a virtual machine of windows or the other way round?
[05:38] <histo> ubuntuw1204: You get security fixes and updates along they way. When a new release comes out you will get asked if you want to upgrade to that release. Upgradign from LTS to LTS is supported. But ugpraded from 12.10 to the next LTS is not. You have to upgrade eache version along the way if you are running just a regular release
[05:39] <jakey1> is it better to run ubuntu with a virtual machine on windows or the other way round?
[05:39] <histo> jakey1: I don't use windows that's my prefered method
[05:39] <jakey1> haha
[05:39] <histo> jakey1: Why do you need windows?
[05:39] <kunji> cfhowlett: I wouldn't exactly call the 6 month releases bleeding edge (maybe from a server perspective, but not for everyday desktop).
[05:39] <jakey1> for a number of programs you cant get on linux
[05:40] <jakey1> or crash when you use wine
[05:40] <Arandur> cfhowlett, thank you for all your help. My issue is fully resolved.
[05:40] <cfhowlett> kunji, OK
[05:40] <cfhowlett> Arandur, congrats.  go forward, be safe, have fun
[05:40] <Arandur> Woo!
[05:40] <histo> jakey1: What sort of programs?
[05:40] <histo> jakey1: there are many free open source alternatives i'm sure.
[05:41] <cfhowlett> !alternatives|jakey1,
[05:41] <Tex_Nick> jakey1:  which os do you use the most ... if MS, then box ubuntu ... if ubuntu, then bow MS
[05:41] <Juest> jakey1: dual boot it
[05:41] <Tex_Nick> bow = box
[05:41] <cfhowlett> jakey1, ooops, ignore that factoid.  but there ARE dozens of free alternatives
[05:41] <MK`> cfhowlett: I dunno if you saw earlier, but I misspoke, i am on 11.10
[05:41] <sloofus> Evening folks.
[05:41] <cfhowlett> MK`, good.  you've got some left in that.
[05:41] <MK`> yeah
[05:41] <jakey1> gimp =! photshop
[05:41] <_Dude_> so how do you resolve 32bit dependences on 64bit ubuntu 12.04.2?  seems to be broken.. all attempts to install 32bit libs results in it trying to remove the new xorg packages from quantal included with 12.04.2 a long with a bunch of other stuff
[05:42] <_Dude_> i keep reading about multiarch but it seems to be broken
[05:42] <_Dude_> if i try installing package:i386, i get the same thing
[05:42] <histo> jakey1: run ps in wine if not suffer with your windows crutch and dualboot
[05:42] <antonio_> this is pissing me off
[05:42] <MK`> I had the same issue just earlier _Dude_. It asked me to uninstall ubuntu. I said no and just left it hehind
[05:42] <MK`> behind*
[05:42] <antonio_> now my damn usb headset wont work
[05:43] <sloofus> i broke my partition table. i do not know how to fix this
[05:43] <antonio_> I have a VERY important audio interview to do right now and the headset wont take any input!!!
[05:43] <Juest> Why ubuntu is so complex and problematic?
[05:43] <histo> _Dude_: There is no steam 64bit at the moment. You may want to ask if anyone has had success with installing steam on 64bit ubuntu or try askubuntu.com or search the forums if no one hasn't
[05:43] <Juest> Fedora works better than this
[05:43] <Juest> GRR
[05:43] <histo> Juest: please explain. I have no issues
[05:43] <kunji> jakey1: Sure it's not equal, I prefer gimp for many things, but some things only photoshop does.  I'm not so sure photoshop plays nice in wine.  Even in a virtual machine, well you can't dedicate full resources to it, I think dualboot is the way to go for that.
[05:43] <Tex_Nick> !details | antonio_
[05:43] <cfhowlett> Juest, it's not, it just requires more hands from the user than "idiot proof" osx and windows
[05:43] <Juest> Im an experienced user
[05:44] <antonio_> tex_nick: here are the details...my usb mic isn't taking any input..running 12.10
[05:44] <Juest> btw, fedora works better
[05:44] <cfhowlett> Juest, then perhaps you should use fedora
[05:44] <_Dude_> histo: i know there's no 64bit, but that was never a problem before with any 32bit program i wanted to install.. i just install the 32bit libs
[05:44] <_Dude_> in older distros
[05:44] <cfhowlett> Juest, afterall, freedom means free to use ubuntu or not.
[05:44] <ubuntuw1204> ok thanks a lot, i will stick to lts
[05:44] <histo> _Dude_: let me try and install steam and see what you are talking about
[05:44] <kunji> Juest: That's a matter of opinion.. which I would strongly disagree with... Fedora...
[05:44] <Juest> i need help with the os,
[05:45] <_Dude_> histo: i've been reading up on this all day - forums, did google searches, looked through the steam forums on the linux group
[05:45] <_Dude_> a lot of people are having this problem
[05:45] <sloofus> hey guys im running ubuntu off a live disk right now. I want to dual boot with windows. When I open gparted to partition my drive, gparted goes out of whack about this possibly being a damaged GPT table. Like no linux application will get near this drive. Any discussion on the topic is much appreciated.
[05:45] <_Dude_> it's a known problem
[05:45] <Juest> system was installed with original cdrom packages, and i updated then
[05:45] <_Dude_> wish i read about it earlier before i installed 12.04.2 - i would've stuck with 12.04.1
[05:45] <fh> hey guys. is there a way that i can lock a window? i want it to be non resizable, non removable.. any ideas?
[05:45] <Tex_Nick> antonio_:  has it ever worked ?
[05:45] <histo> _Dude_: Then sounds like a problem with steam
[05:45] <histo> shocker
[05:45] <antonio_> yes..
[05:45] <MK`> tldr; steam was designed for 12.04.1 and then they released 12.04.2 shortly after and steam is half-broken; it's a steam issue
[05:45] <antonio_> it worked yesterday
[05:45] <cfhowlett> sloofus, i had to kill the gpt on my previous hackintosh'd dell.  after that, no problem
[05:46] <antonio_> I didn't install anything or change anything..this is such bullshit
[05:46] <_Dude_> histo: not really.  i tried installing other 32bit packages and i'm having the same problem
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> any package to protect from java exploits?
[05:46] <_Dude_> any 32bit package i try to install using package:i386 or if i do apt-get install ia-lib32, results in it trying to remove a bunch of packages
[05:46] <MK`> lotuspsychje: I don't know any packages specifically designed to remove java for you, no
[05:46] <_Dude_> including the new quantal xorg packages that were backported
[05:46] <poz> hi guys, i am trying to install cinnamon on my computer
[05:46] <sloofus> well the plot thickens. I had already had ubuntu set up for dual boot in the past. i thought i erased everything properly but now i worry it did not
[05:46] <antonio_> normally in the sound manager it would say logitech...now its showing "clear chat comfort usb headset"