[00:27] <roasted> darkxst: right - but while alpha 1 is on this link, where is alpha 2? I don't see a sub dir for it. Is alpha 2 simply on the regular daily build page?
[00:28] <jbicha_> roasted: it won't be there until tomorrow! :)
[00:29] <roasted> ah, so right now, I don't have anything to compare to besides alpha 1 13.10 and 13.04 with gnome 3 ppa, eh?
[00:30] <jbicha_> we have alpha2 candidates
[01:38] <roasted> I'm still in testing mode, but I have alpha 1 in a VM and I cannot get exchange to work regardless of what I do
[01:38] <roasted> with or without ews, with or without mapi, even if both are installed, nothing works.
[01:57] <roasted> Now I'm confused, because in my 13.04 VM I can't get exchange services working either.
[01:57] <roasted> gah.
[01:57] <roasted> with or without ews or mapi installed (or even both)
[04:24] <jbicha> darkxst: ok i386 works; Install Alongside half-works, see bug 1204765
[04:36] <jbicha> darkxst: hey for bug 1194895, did you try pressing Enter after it seems to hang?
[04:37] <jbicha> you're supposed to see a message that says remove the installation disk and press enter
[08:18] <theenduser> o/
[08:44] <theenduser> I saw online accounts is still present in 13.10?
[08:45] <theenduser> or is that the gnome one? ubuntu's is sth different?
[08:57] <darkxst> theenduser, yes we only ship the gnome online accounts now
[08:57] <darkxst> however if you upgraded from 13.04 you would need to manually remove ubuntu one
[09:12] <theenduser> oh no, it's a fresh install
[09:15] <theenduser> I noticed the wallpaper picker is unusually slow. Is it a know bug?
[09:16] <theenduser> *known
[09:17] <darkxst> theenduser, I assume so, it does it in 3.6, 3.8 and 3.9 ....
[09:44] <theenduser> I think it's debian/Ubuntu-specific though, haven't noticed it in rpm-based distro's.
[09:48] <darkxst> maybe its in whatever library they use to generate the thumbnails
[10:23] <theenduser> yeah, I'm clueless...
[11:15] <Nick___> can anyone help me with ubuntu install?
[11:19] <Nick___> Anyone here?
[13:44] <roasted> hello
[13:44] <roasted> so here I am on 13.04 and unable to get exchange working, regardless of whether I have ews or mapi installed. /
[13:44] <roasted> :/
[18:34] <jbicha> roasted_: you're going to need to file a bug for that
[19:47] <roasted_> jbicha: I finally got it working.
[19:47] <roasted_> jbicha: I just removed, purged, and autoremoved mapi and ews. installed ews, rebooted, and re-added change and it worked.
[19:48] <roasted_> jbicha: I definitely think it would be helpful for end users if, by adding the excahnge option in the accounts field in GOA, it prompts the user to install needed software (ews) to complete that task instead of having to find out the hard way
[20:02] <jbicha> roasted: yes please file a bug :)
[20:02] <roasted> jbicha: ah okay. I thought you were referencing a bug for the ews/mapi issue I ran into.
[20:02] <roasted> will do :D
[20:02] <jbicha> we need to know the minimal amount of additional packages you need to install for it to work and what version of Exchange you're using
[20:03] <roasted> file against evolution?
[20:03] <jbicha> against gnome-online-accounts would be great
[20:03] <roasted> filing now
[20:04] <jbicha> the binary package 'gnome-online-accounts' is in universe but 'evolution' is in main which makes it more difficult to add additional dependencies
[20:05] <jbicha> I'd love to have someone else with a different exchange server confirm the bug and the fix
[20:07] <roasted> jbicha: I might have someone in mind...
[20:07] <roasted> jbicha: he's a big unity user but I might be able to talk him into firing up an ubuntu gnome VM on his work system to see.
[20:08] <roasted> jbicha: he complained before about exchange because they don't have imap open, so he MUST have exchange support with whatever mail app he uses.
[20:08] <jbicha> does he use the same exchange server you do?
[20:08] <roasted> no
[20:08] <roasted> he's about 800 miles away from me
[20:08] <roasted> totally different environment
[20:08] <roasted> he works for a grocery store chain, I work for a school district. Both in the IT department.
[20:08] <jbicha> cool
[21:48] <roasted> jbicha: I just spun up a fresh 13.04 VM. I added the Gnome3 PPA and synaptic. Nothing else. I added my Exchange account to GOA, opened Evolution, and nothing happened. I installed evolution-ews, rebooted, and when it came back up Evolution brought over all of my email, contacts, calendar, etc. Evolution-ews is the missing piece for Exchange 2010.
[21:48] <roasted> jbicha: I gave my buddy instructions, who will try and duplicate these findings on his own Exchange 2010 server. I also submitted a bug report just now.
[21:49] <roasted> jbicha: the only question I have is, does the Gnome3 PPA matter in this equation? Or would Gnome 3.6 + Evolution + evolution-ews package = working Exchange integration like what I have now? I should have tried it before I upgraded to the Gnome3 PPA to bring down Gnome 3.8
[21:51] <roasted> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1205116
[21:57] <jbicha> I can't really answer your questions as I don't have an exchange server
[21:58] <roasted> I was just curious if you knew offhand if the gnome3 ppa did anything to evolution that might have bumped it to a newer version that supports exchange.
[21:59] <roasted> However, I am reading sources online citing that that might not be the case.
[21:59] <roasted> Some reports from as early as 2009 (like colleges with documentation for students to connect to their exchange email) is if you run linux, use evolution and install ews or mapi etc
[22:24] <roasted> For what it's worth, I spun up a brand new 13.04 VM, no Gnome3 PPA, and did the same thing
[22:24] <roasted> evolution-ews is the winning ticket
[22:24] <roasted> add account to exchange through GOA, open evolution, nothing. Install evolution-ews, reboot, bam everything works.


[04:23] <KageSenshi> any of you guys saw the FOSS @ HiTB post in any of the local foss ml? .. (eg: myoss/osdcmy) ?
[04:24] <KageSenshi> didnt post to ubuntu-my as i'm not subscribed to it .. anyway anybody from this channel going to take the offer?
[06:08] <KageSenshi> anyway if any of you guys interested just buzz me
[06:35] <kstan> hi, anybody here?
[06:48] <sweemeng_> kstan, yo
[06:49] <sweemeng_> wassup
[06:49] <kstan> nothing, long time never been here.
[06:49] <sweemeng_> yeah
[06:49] <sweemeng_> here is a bit boring
[06:49] <kstan> how your job?
[06:49] <sweemeng_> spend more time in #myoss now
[06:49] <sweemeng_> kstan, same thing
[06:49] <sweemeng_> just a job
[06:49] <sweemeng_> side project is more iteresting
[06:49] <kstan> oh, at last company?
[06:50] <sweemeng_> s/isteresting/interesting
[06:50] <sweemeng_> no site project to learn technology on my own
[06:50] <sweemeng_> lol
[06:50] <sweemeng_> s/site/side
[06:50] <kstan> ic ic, u wan to sed something?
[06:51] <sweemeng_> it is a irc convention to tell people that the word really mean the other work
[06:51] <sweemeng_> lol
[06:51] <kstan> ah?i dunno at all.. sorry ya.
[06:51] <sweemeng_> no problem
[06:52] <sweemeng_> just a niche thing
[06:52] <sweemeng_> don't worry about it
[06:52] <sweemeng_> lol
[06:52] <kstan> last time the foss at penang u go?
[06:52] <sweemeng_> nope
[06:52] <sweemeng_> need to work
[06:53] <sweemeng_> that time
[06:53] <kstan> anyway, last event  I believe less people go
[06:53] <kstan> expensive, and I guess speaker less popular.
[06:54] <sweemeng_> yeah that too
[06:54] <sweemeng_> the organizer know that
[06:54] <kstan> except that event, got others event at KL recently?
[06:55] <sweemeng_> yeah
[06:55] <sweemeng_> i involve with a hackathon with gtug
[06:55] <sweemeng_> and one with node.js
[06:55] <sweemeng_> and barcamp
[06:56] <sweemeng_> otherwise not much
[06:56] <kstan> ic, next event is?
[06:57] <sweemeng_> no more liao
[06:57] <sweemeng_> fedora day
[06:57] <kstan> oh.. too bad.
[06:57] <kstan> KatieKitty: Hi
[06:57] <sweemeng_> http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=152923404776693
[06:57] <KatieKitty> hi kstan! :)
[06:57] <kstan> at least now got 3 person here.
[06:59] <sweemeng_> haha
[06:59] <kstan> 10 september fedora event. organize like barcamp?
[06:59] <sweemeng_> yeah
[07:00] <sweemeng_> by kage
[07:00] <sweemeng_> check with him on #fedora-my
[07:01] <kstan> 1 day session.
[07:01] <sweemeng_> yeah
[07:02] <kstan> hi sweemeng.
[07:03] <sweemeng_> kstan, ...
[07:03] <sweemeng_> ><
[07:03] <kstan> I wonder at this moment at KL open source consider active or not (Government).
[07:03] <sweemeng_> not so much
[07:03] <sweemeng_> but then not the best person to ask too
[07:04] <kstan> haha..
[07:04] <sweemeng_> maybe syazwan can answer you better
[07:04] <kstan> this saturday will meet him. He come my company oss activity.
[07:04] <sweemeng_> i know
[07:04]  * sweemeng_ too lazy to travel
[07:04] <sweemeng_> haha
[07:05] <sweemeng_> the boss was asking me to organize one too
[07:05] <kstan> small event la.
[07:05] <kstan> monthly basis?
[07:05] <sweemeng_> except it is in sungai way
[07:05] <sweemeng_> ><
[07:05] <sweemeng_> my office is in sungai way, a.k.a very far
[07:05] <sweemeng_> ><
[07:08] <sweemeng_> meanwhile back to work
[07:09] <kstan> it need patient,
[07:10] <kstan> and got people continually do.
[07:11] <sweemeng_> we do have a spot now,
[07:11] <kstan> KL enjoy. JB damn slow.
[07:11] <sweemeng_> a guy sponsor the place
[07:11] <sweemeng_> haha
[07:11] <sweemeng_> kstan, well each have pro
[07:11] <sweemeng_> we just have more people
[07:12] <sweemeng_> the same way that we look at singapore and say that kl is not big enough
[07:12] <sweemeng_> lol
[07:12] <kstan> the IT specialist much weaker if compare to Singapore.
[07:12] <sweemeng_> kstan, depends actually
[07:12] <kstan> actually I have difference opinion. KL is better than singapore
[07:12] <sweemeng_> 1 or 2 month back when i go to pycon singapore
[07:13] <sweemeng_> i realized that malaysia is not far behind when it comes to python
[07:13] <sweemeng_> if not better
[07:13] <sweemeng_> they got company that hire
[07:13] <sweemeng_> we have good people
[07:13] <sweemeng_> thats about it
[07:13] <kstan> I believe Malaysia is big, and KL gather most people from Malaysia. Singapore just borrow.
[07:14] <kstan> So KL gather lot expert, Singapore borrow many expert.
[07:14] <sweemeng_> yeah
[07:14] <kstan> Singapore more focus on commercial too.
[07:14] <sweemeng_> they follow the trend
[07:15] <sweemeng_> a lot
[07:15] <kstan> yaya..
[07:15] <sweemeng_> if you visit their hackerspace they tend to be using stuff like rails
[07:15] <sweemeng_> or django
[07:15] <kstan> This I'm not realize.
[07:15] <kstan> cause I half tong.
[07:15] <sweemeng_> i know some of the people there
[07:16] <sweemeng_> but there is some good people here and there
[07:16] <sweemeng_> malaysia is really not that far behind
[07:16] <sweemeng_> loll
[07:16] <sweemeng_> meanwhile back to work
[07:16] <sweemeng_> ciao
[07:16] <kstan> byebye
[07:17] <kstan> chat next time.


[04:42] <kidsodateless> all, magandang tanghali!
[13:51] <bhearsum> Firefox 4, now released!
[14:09] <zeroseven0183> Via FTP?
[14:09] <zeroseven0183> Ahhh
[14:09] <bhearsum> mozilla.com :)
[14:09] <zeroseven0183> Yup
[14:09] <zeroseven0183> Downloading....
[14:09] <zeroseven0183> :-)
[14:09] <bhearsum> malapit sa "check for updates"
[14:10] <zeroseven0183> Actually, it's in Firefox 4 Beta Start Page na rin
[14:10] <zeroseven0183> "Firefox 4 is here, and thanks to your help as a beta tester it's pretty awesome! Download the final version."
[14:10] <bhearsum> d'oh
[14:11] <bhearsum> there's still some caching issues
[14:26] <bhearsum> 1200 downloads from .ph so far
[14:26] <bhearsum> quezon city is 600 of those
[16:14] <bhearsum> regnard representing on air.mozilla.org now :)


[15:12] <mup> Bug #1867935 opened: remove openwsman and rdep wsmancli <MAAS:New> <openwsman (Ubuntu):New> <wsmancli (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1867935>
[16:18] <mup> Bug #1781241 opened: rack controller remained in degraded state <cdo-qa> <foundations-engine> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1781241>
[16:30] <mup> Bug #1781241 changed: rack controller remained in degraded state <cdo-qa> <foundations-engine> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1781241>
[16:33] <mup> Bug #1781241 opened: rack controller remained in degraded state <cdo-qa> <foundations-engine> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1781241>


[02:33] <hyperair> hi. where can i find the upstream overlayfs git repository?
[02:37] <hyperair> git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mszeredi/vfs.git <-- i've been merging this into my own tree, but it seems fairly outdated -- it gets merge conflicts with 3.7.0
[15:25] <infinity> Anyone around to discuss the hv_kvp_daemon LBM mess?
[15:25] <infinity> apw, ogasawara ^?