[00:00] <cage_raphel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/422438/
[00:00] <grmrgecko_> anyone able to help me getting ubuntu-desktop to work with vnc4server?
[00:00] <Losha> cage_raphel: Do you have a /boot/grub/grub.cfg file?
[00:00] <zaxonspox> grmrgecko_: what up?
[00:00] <Typos_King> cage_raphel:    ---> <Jordan_U> Losha: cage_raphel: grub-install --version
[00:01] <Typos_King> cage_raphel:    what does that say?
[00:01] <pg1> can anyone tell me if there is a GUI way to manually turn the fans on my laptop on? they are on, but only at 2000 rpm. which is idle speed. Macbook pro 4,1. plz help. dont want laptop to melt. lol
[00:01] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox: I am trying to get ubuntu-desktop + vnc4server on my server in a datacenter. The os is ubuntu server 9.10 and I used apt-get to install ubuntu-desktop
[00:02] <cage_raphel> zaxonspox, this is what i got when i searched for /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[00:02] <cage_raphel> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/422439/
[00:03] <zaxonspox> grmrgecko_: you are on server, right? have GUI?
[00:03] <pg1> any mac users out there help a brother out?
[00:03] <Typos_King> cage_raphel:    grub2 no longer uses menu.lst, the akin file for that will be 'grub.cfg' however since 'update-grub' modifies it using templates, is recommended to make any wanted 'permanent' changes in the templates, /etc/defaults/grub, rather than at grub.cfg directlyi, though I've done it to grub.cfg and then I make a backup for anything :)
[00:03] <pmbasehore> thx augustl, red2kic
[00:03] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox: it's in some data center, I have root ssh access.
[00:03] <cage_raphel> Typos_King, grub-install --version
[00:03] <cage_raphel> grub-install (GNU GRUB 0.97)
[00:03] <pmbasehore> i'll look elsewhere
[00:03] <gogeta> pg1: im shure thers alot of mac user at #apple
[00:03] <gogeta> lol
[00:03] <Typos_King> cage_raphel:    well, it has the wrong version :P
[00:03] <Typos_King> hehe
[00:04] <cage_raphel> Typos_King, hehehehe
[00:04] <Typos_King> cage_raphel:    maybe due to an update I assume, rather than a full install
[00:04] <pg1> gogeta, nice lol but they wont know a thing about ubuntu unfortunately. my question might not be mac specific though. maybe it is idk
[00:04] <zaxonspox> grmrgecko_: install vino and vinagre
[00:04] <cage_raphel> Typos_King, i am planning to install open solaris in my second partition.. will this grub's wrong version cause an issue?
[00:05] <zaxonspox> grmrgecko_: vino for a server, and vinagre as for a client
[00:05] <Typos_King> cage_raphel:    don't think so, I think the versioning is a bit mixed up, sorta reading up old info/file/cached data
[00:05] <pg1> what application do i use to open .run files?
[00:06] <gogeta> pg1: lol
[00:06] <zaxonspox> pg1 terminal :P
[00:06] <Typos_King> pg1:   what is it supposed to be?
[00:06] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox I use Chicken of the VNC for my client. As I said I have no displays connected all I have is ssh.
[00:06] <gogeta> pg1: just ./file.run
[00:06] <pg1> Typos_King, games. enemrt territory and trmulous
[00:06] <cage_raphel> Typos_King, oh okie.. but what i fear is.. once i install open solaris in my second partition.. my opensolaris will boot.. but what will happen to ubuntu? how will i access it incase grub menu is not displaying an option ?
[00:06] <Typos_King> yeah, I think .run are executables
[00:07] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox I already have vino installed but I was never really able to get it to start.
[00:07] <zaxonspox> grmrgecko_: yy, then wen you can connect thru ssh, what for a VNC server on it?
[00:07] <vallhalla81> hello all
[00:07] <Typos_King> pg1: I think .run are executables, just do an -> ls -l;  and make sure it has execute permissions if not, then -> chmod a+x FILE.run;
[00:07] <pg1> Typos_King, oh my god why cant I just click on it lol
[00:08] <Typos_King> heheh
[00:08] <dragonneus> !repeat
[00:08] <gogeta> pg1: you can once they have excute permission
[00:08] <mac> there's a patch for it already if you can be bothered to recompile http://bit.ly/c6ieX5
[00:08] <cage_raphel> Typos_King, oh okie.. but what i fear is.. once i install open solaris in my second partition.. my opensolaris will boot.. but what will happen to ubuntu? how will i access it incase grub menu is not displaying an option ?
[00:08] <pg1> gogeta, so I just click properties and make it 777?
[00:08] <Typos_King> pg1:    cuz *nix doesn't get fooled easily by just doing extension switcharoos like you'd on other OS'es :P
[00:08] <donna_> why after downloading an audio book, was it gone next time I reopened rhythmbox?
[00:08] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox Didn't really understand what you mean by that but I can't find any way other then connecting with -x to start vino and when I did that the screen was all gibberish
[00:08] <gogeta> pg1: chmod a+x file.run
[00:09] <rtty> hi. can anyone guide me in copying a folder and its contents from one ubuntu machine to another ubuntu machine?
[00:09] <zaxonspox> grmrgecko_: this server is yours? you have rights to it, and it hase GUI?
[00:09] <cage_raphel> i feel ignored :(
[00:09] <vallhalla81> donna_: is it in the folder that rhythembox scans?
[00:10] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox this is my server I rented in a data center to run my sites on and I wanted to have a gui to it which is why I'm trying to install a vnc server to access gnome.
[00:10] <donna_> vallhala81: sorry I do not know, how do I find out?
[00:10] <Spasysheep> how do i list the bus and device id of connected usb devices?
[00:10] <rtty> i am able to ping the other machine ... but get a connection refused when i try to ssh to it
[00:11] <gogeta> Spasysheep: lspci
[00:11] <zaxonspox> grmrgecko_: ok, but this SRV has already started GUI desktop?
[00:11] <tadhg> Jordan_U: Heya, you could take over my computer remotely if it would help you?
[00:11] <cviniciusm> Good evening.
[00:11] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox it has started x11 from what I saw by running startx.
[00:11] <vallhalla81> donna_: ok in preferences on rbox inthe music tab it shows what folder it scans
[00:11] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox I installed ubuntu-desktop and xorg via apt-get
[00:11] <zaxonspox> grmrgecko_: type ps -aux | grep vino
[00:12] <rtty> tried rsync too but same connection refused error
[00:12] <Typos_King> cage_raphel:    there's a high likelyhood that solaris will be using grub and likely a new one, and even with older it will find the ubuntu or any win32 if any installations and add it, in any case, you can restore grub back to the MBR, is a simple procedure, by for any case, you can also NOW, save the MBR state, with -> sudo dd if=/dev/sda out=sda_mbr.img bs=512 count=1;   that assumes your 1st HD is /dev/sda, and you can put
[00:12] <pg1> can anyone tell me if there is a GUI way to manually turn the fans on my laptop on? they are on, but only at 2000 rpm. which is idle speed. Macbook pro 4,1. plz help. dont want laptop to melt. lo
[00:12] <Jordan_U> tadhg: It wouldn't
[00:12] <rtty> is ssh disabled even for local lan connections by defult in ubuntu?
[00:12] <grmrgecko_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/422442/
[00:12] <Spasysheep> gogeta: ...didn't list the device
[00:13] <rtty> default*
[00:13] <Typos_King> pg1:   no that I know of :|
[00:13] <gogeta> Spasysheep: humm maybe ubuntu does not see it
[00:13] <tadhg> Jordan_U: no prob
[00:13] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox seems all I get back is the grep command being ran.
[00:13] <zaxonspox> grmrgecko_: vino server isnt even started
[00:13] <donna_> vallhalla81: actually it first scanned to my music folder and then the next time I opened rhythmbox move to missing files
[00:13] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox how do I start it.
[00:14] <grmrgecko_> I searched all over
[00:14] <rtty> if it can ping y not ssh to it
[00:14] <Spasysheep> gogeta dmesg registers it connecting / disconnecting
[00:14] <gogeta> Spasysheep: then it should be in that list probly as unknown
[00:14] <rtty> i have not installed any firewall on both ubuntus
[00:15] <Spasysheep> gogeta: no, i know what all the listed devices are and it's not there
[00:15] <vallhalla81> donna_: well i would sugest change it to where your music is stored ie music then move the audio book to that folder
[00:15] <dragonneus> does anyone know where I can find information on setting up a usb touchscreen monitor on ubuntu 9.10 NBR?
[00:15] <rtty> i am using a wifi router though ... could that be a reason?
[00:15] <gogeta> humm
[00:15] <schultza> is there a source repos for truecrypt?
[00:16] <schultza> !truecrypt
[00:16] <rtty> anyone?
[00:16] <cvaty>  /server irc.p2p-network.net
[00:16] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox: All I can find is the vino-server command, but it says it cannot open display.
[00:16] <gogeta> rtty: ubuntu comes with a fireewall by defult
[00:17] <donna_> vallhalla81:  okay, could you instruct me as to how to do that, and then I want to download the audio book to my mp3.  Tried to get help on manuel etc.  no luck
[00:17] <gogeta> firewall
[00:17] <rtty> gogeta: how do i let it rsync ?
[00:17] <gogeta> !firewall
[00:17] <vallhalla81> donna_: ok how are you downloading the file?
[00:17] <rtty> allow rsync rather
[00:18] <gogeta> rtty: thers a info on it
[00:18] <pg1> how do i run my x64 install in 32 bot mode so I can install a 32 bit game?
[00:18] <rtty> ufw ok reading
[00:18] <zaxonspox> grmrgecko_: look at this, mayby it will help a litle http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=266981
[00:18] <rtty> ty gogeta
[00:18] <pg1> the installer gives up as documented here http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/q3a/index.html#64bits
[00:18] <cviniciusm> rtty, use examples to help us to help you. For example, machine1 has ssh server and machine2 has ssh client. the command netstat -tlnp | grep -i ssh shows the sshd listening port and so on.
[00:18] <vallhalla81> pg1: virtualbox
[00:18] <Typos_King> pg1:  do, nothing :)
[00:19] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox: I found that and there is no %gconf.xml.
[00:19] <Typos_King> pg1:    afaik, 64bit hardware will handle 32bit just fine, is backward compatible
[00:19] <zaxonspox> grmrgecko_: are you sure vino is installed?
[00:19] <pg1> vallhalla81, im not going to run a 3d game in a vbox. Typos_King i dont understand
[00:19] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox: Yes if I run the command vino-server it says cannot open display.
[00:20] <pg1> Typos_King, the installer gives up. its documented here http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/q3a/index.html#64bits but i dont really understand how to fix it
[00:20] <vallhalla81> pg1: then your other option is install a 32bit distro
[00:20] <pg1> If you run the installer through the emulated 32 bits environement it should work
[00:20] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox: As I said it's a server in a data center, no displays at all.
[00:20] <donna_> vallhalla81: tell you what I did.  inserted the audio cd, soundjuicer came on and extracted, saved the audio in my rhythmbox.  So I figured the audio files were saved at least on the drive.  Next time, I went to listen to the audio they were missing.  I went into the missing files and all that was there was some music that I downloaded.  (sorry, got confused with another problem)
[00:21] <rtty> cviniciusm: the grep returned no results
[00:21] <fyretux> how do i change permissions so i can change maps for a game?
[00:21] <zaxonspox> grmrgecko_: "The server executable is /usr/lib/vino/vino-server.
[00:21] <zaxonspox> It only must run when the gconf key /desktop/gnome/remote_access/enabled is true." but why there are display problems
[00:21] <rtty> cviniciusm: do i install ssh or start it somehow?
[00:21] <vallhalla81> donna_: ok first open sound j and see where it is saving files too
[00:21] <jrib> fyretux: be more specific about what you want to do.  You probably don't want to change permissions of anything
[00:22] <cviniciusm> rtty, so sshd daemon is not running.
[00:22] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox: Because there is no display as I said.
[00:22] <rtty> cviniciusm: sudo netstat -tlnp | grep -i ssh -> no results
[00:22] <rtty> cviniciusm: how do i start it?
[00:22] <Vicyorus> ..............
[00:22] <Typos_King> pg1:    all that says that, the installation script may get confused when looking for 32big dependencies names, and they advise to extract and copy files manually to their respective folder
[00:22] <un214> sudo sshd
[00:22] <Vicyorus> I have nothing to do here,
[00:22] <rtty> ok ty
[00:22] <jrib> un214: no, that is not the proper way to start sshd
[00:22] <zaxonspox> grmrgecko_: no display adapter attached, ok, i know, but that shouldnt be a problem
[00:22] <Vicyorus> I was NOT here
[00:22] <xebax> hola
[00:22] <Typos_King> pg1:    it says nothing about 32bit not executing in 64bit hardware
[00:23] <xebax> hola
[00:23] <pg1> how do i extract? it is a .run file
[00:23] <donna_> vallhalla81: opened sound juicer and there was nothing in there.
[00:23] <xebax> alguien español
[00:23] <jrib> !es | xebax
[00:23] <Typos_King> heh
[00:23] <un214> jrib it's good enough to bring it up when your display is hosed so you can remote in and fix it
[00:23] <rtty> cviniciusm: sudo sshd command not found
[00:23] <cviniciusm> rtty, dpkg -l | grep -i ssh does it shows ssh server installed?
[00:23] <jrib> pg1: .run file for what exactly?
[00:23] <zaxonspox> grmrgecko_: did you looked at xorg.conf ?
[00:23] <jrib> un214: use: sudo service ssh start
[00:23] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox: No I did not.
[00:23] <Jordan_U> tadhg: run "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" it will most likey create a new empty file, but be sure you type the path correctly or use copy and paste. The "X" in X11 is capitalized.
[00:23] <vallhalla81> donna_: you need to look in preffeences again to see where it is saving to
[00:24] <pg1> jrib, a game. enemy terriory
[00:24] <Typos_King> pg1:     try using your archiver app :), .run are like a .deb,  IIRC, is just a compressed file with a few scripts to execute for the sake of installs
[00:24] <Jordan_U> tadhg: Then paste this into it for the contents: http://pastebin.com/8tWpiwWG . Once you'v done that and saved the file logging out and back in again will hopefully get you full resolution
[00:24] <gogeta> Typos_King: not always
[00:24] <zaxonspox> grmrgecko_: look at this, that should resolv your problem http://imthi.com/blog/linux/ubuntu-904-remote-desktop-using-vncserver-without-monitor.php
[00:24] <fyretux> jrib: i want to be able to edit maps for "The Battle of Wesnoth" but it says that it couldn't open the file for writing when i save
[00:24] <rtty> cviniciusm: it listed openssh-client, ssh-askpass-gnome and sshfs only
[00:24] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox: Appears as if it's not existing
[00:25] <jrib> pg1: make it executable (e.g. chmod +x file.run), type the path to it in a terminal (e.g. ./file.run), and press enter
[00:25] <zaxonspox> grmrgecko_: look at the link i send to you
[00:25] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox: thanks, I'll look.
[00:25] <pg1> jrib, i did that. it fails
[00:25] <pg1> Typos_King, it says archivew not supported
[00:25] <rtty> sudo service ssh start returns unrecognized service
[00:25] <jrib> pg1: what does "it fails" mean?...
[00:25] <jrib> !permissions > fyretux
[00:26] <jrib> rtty: what exactly is the issue?
[00:26] <Typos_King> pg1:    well..... hehe, you seem to be lacking reading, that link you gave shows how to run in 32bit emulation, by using 'linux32' command :|
[00:26] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox: Oh yeah, I was looking at that, but at the end all I got was x11 not gnome.
[00:26] <pg1> jrib, the installer doesnt work because im on a 64 bot install.
[00:26] <gogeta> rtty: then you dont have it installed sudo apt-get install sshd
[00:26] <rtty> jrib: i want to rsync from one ubuntu machine to another
[00:26] <donna_> vallhalla81: went to system, preferences than what would be the next choice?
[00:26] <pg1> Typos_King, im not really saavy with cli, lol the syntax is wrong and i never know if it worked or not
[00:26] <rtty> the can ping each other but not ssh/ rsync
[00:27] <cviniciusm> sshfs allows an encrypted mount point. Do you want a mount point or simply exchange files between the machines?
[00:27] <jrib> pg1: you should explain that in your question
[00:27] <fyretux> jrib: i know what file permissions are, i just don't know how to change ones thjat aren't mine
[00:27] <Typos_King> pg1:    linux32 --help;
[00:27] <jrib> fyretux: the page explains that
[00:27] <vallhalla81> donna_: not to sure as i am not at a pc so you will have to look abot for it sorry
[00:27] <fyretux> ok
[00:27] <vallhalla81> about
[00:27] <jrib> rtty: and you want to do this over ssh?  You need to install openssh-server if you want to run the ssh server
[00:27] <pg1> Typos_King, $ linux32 sh '/home/patrick/Downloads/et-linux-2.55.x86.run'  gives me the same error
[00:28] <rtty> gogeta: simply exchange files
[00:28] <rtty> cviniciusm: ^
[00:28] <jrib> pg1: what error?  be specific please
[00:28] <donna_> vallhalla81: okay, thank you
[00:28] <rtty> jrib: i just want to transfer files ... ssh or no ssh
[00:28] <Jordan_U> tadhg: I will be gone for about half an hour.
[00:28] <Typos_King> jrib:   he has a 32bit game, install script (.run) whines about dependencies and stops, cuz he's on 64bit environment,  he also pointed to -> http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/q3a/index.html#64bits    which has solutions  heheh
[00:29] <pg1> jrib, what Typos_King said, but the "solutions" arent quite clear yet; for me at least lol
[00:29] <Kin`Away> someone could tell me why is there this error when I add something at repositories?
[00:29] <Kin`Away> W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org hardy Release: Le seguenti firme non sono state verificate perché la chiave pubblica non è disponibile: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[00:29] <Kin`Away> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net hardy Release: Le seguenti firme non sono state verificate perché la chiave pubblica non è disponibile: NO_PUBKEY 665F9AEFE1098513
[00:29] <FloodBot1> Kin`Away: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:29] <jrib> !medibuntu > Kin`Away
[00:30] <jpds> Kin`Away: You don't have the keys for those repos?
[00:30] <jrib> Kin`Away: see ubottu's link about adding gpg keys for medibuntu
[00:30] <gogeta> pg1: looks pretty clear to me
[00:30] <Volkodav> How do  I check  the trim performance on Lynx on a 2.6.34-020634rc5-generic with trim capable SSD ?
[00:30] <fechu59> list
[00:30] <rtty> cviniciusm: gogeta ?
[00:30] <jrib> pg1: have you installed the ia32* packages?
[00:30] <tadhg> Jordan_U: slected save get a red no message saying "could not find the file /etc/Xll/xorg.conf.
[00:30] <Typos_King> pg1:   I wonder how are you going to fare once you make it to 'enemy territory', I mean, if you didn't get the solutions at the link, I think you'll be shot dead even before landing
[00:30] <tadhg> Jordan_U: Ok thanks for all your help
[00:30] <pg1> Typos_King, thanks?
[00:31] <jrib> rtty: ssh is fine
[00:31] <pg1> jrib, no, is that something I need to spoof 32 bit installers?
[00:31] <gogeta> lol
[00:31] <fyretux> thx jrib, cya
[00:31] <gogeta> pg1: just 32bit emulation
[00:31] <hiexpo> how do i open the folder thatstores all the things i have typed in the terminal
[00:31] <jrib> pg1: no, not "spoof".  Read the package descriptions
[00:31] <cviniciusm> rtty, I think the following can help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync
[00:31] <gogeta> pg1: if you installed 32bit packages before you should aruldy have it
[00:32] <jrib> hiexpo: why?
[00:32] <zaxonspox> grmrgecko_: you need to work that on your own, you need to start vino-server by gconftool-2 -s -t bool /desktop/gnome/remote_access/enabled true then i think relogin
[00:32] <hiexpo> jrib,  - cause i wanna clear it
[00:32] <pg1> gogeta, jrib emulate? spoof? where do I get this 32bit package thing
[00:32] <jrib> hiexpo: type « help history » in your shell
[00:32] <gogeta> pg1: doesent et have a 64 bit installer these days
[00:32] <hiexpo> jrib, ok
[00:32] <rtty> cviniciusm: i googled it ... did not help .. re-reading
[00:33] <jrib> hiexpo: help history | grep clear   for the lazy
[00:33] <pg1> gogeta, does it? cause i would definately redownload it. not have to deal with all this tomfoolery
[00:33] <jrib> pg1: same place you get all other packages for ubuntu... use a package manager like synaptic
[00:33] <Kin`Away> and how can I reload my repositories adding those of medibuntu?
[00:33] <zaxonspox> grmrgecko_: if that wont help i thing you should try to add some diplay section into xorg.conf . that every thing a could help you with
[00:33] <Jordan_U> tadhg: 11 is a number, copy and paste "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" to be sure you have it correct.
[00:33] <kaushal> hi
[00:34] <hiexpo> jrib, i got it thanks
[00:34] <jrib> Kin`Away: press "reload" in synaptic.  Or type « sudo aptitude update » in a shell
[00:34] <kaushal> is there a channel dedicated for ubuntu laptop ?
[00:34] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox: there is no xorg.conf file, there is the X11 folder though.
[00:34] <Typos_King> !ask | kaushal
[00:34] <Kin`Away> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net hardy Release: Le seguenti firme non sono state verificate perché la chiave pubblica non è disponibile: NO_PUBKEY 665F9AEFE1098513
[00:34] <Kin`Away> W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org hardy Release: Le seguenti firme non sono state verificate perché la chiave pubblica non è disponibile: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[00:34] <zaxonspox> grmrgecko_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:34] <alket> I heard that Sony Vegas editor is now open source , when can I get it ?
[00:35] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox: I know where it's at, but there is no xorg.conf file
[00:35] <kaushal> what are the supported laptops of Dell running ubuntu ?
[00:35] <gogeta> pg1: thers 2 ways i see
[00:35] <mossby> Where are bash aliases stored in Ubuntu Lucid?
[00:35] <jrib> Kin`Away: if you read the link that was sent to you before by ubottu, you will see how to add gpg keys for medibuntu.  Please stop spamming the error message
[00:35] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/422451/
[00:35] <jrib> !lucid | mossby
[00:35] <gogeta> pg1: using linux32 sh runfile.run
[00:35] <Kin`Away> ok
[00:35] <Kin`Away> thank you jrib
[00:35] <gogeta> pg1: or passing -keep on the run file and moving the files manuly
[00:36] <Kin`Away> I prefered an explanations
[00:36] <Kin`Away> from you
[00:36] <zaxonspox> grmrgecko_:  mayby try  dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[00:36] <pg1> gogeta, i tried $ linux32 sh '/home/patrick/Downloads/et-linux-2.55.x86.run'  and got the same error. and archive manager days "archive type not supported"
[00:36] <Kin`Away> I'll search there that what I ask
[00:36] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox: still non.
[00:36] <gogeta> pg1: does it do extracting then say your missing giblic
[00:37] <donna_> how do I find out where my files were sent to?  preferences,  what is the next tab to open?
[00:37] <pg1> gogeta, yes. cause im on 64 bit
[00:37] <Typos_King> pg1:     rename the package to say .zip and let's see what the archiver says
[00:37] <zaxonspox> grmrgecko_: does connecting to X11 gives you any GUI you might use to start Gnome desktop GUI for Vino etc?
[00:38] <Bodsda> donna_: if you mean in firefox, it is on the 'Main' tab
[00:38] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox: got it to work, I used /usr/bin/gnome-session to start gnome.
[00:38] <gogeta> pg1: sudo aptitude install ia32-libs
[00:38] <pg1> Typos_King, it says "nice try, this isnt a zip file" (more or less)
[00:38] <K350> how to only list folders with ls?
[00:38] <Majora_> I have Ubuntu 9.10 installed on a white Macbook version 4-1 and want to roll back its mouse driver and other settings for the mouse to those used in Jaunty. How do I do this? I'm new to Linux and don't know very much at all about the terminal programming language or how Linux works.
[00:38] <gogeta> pg1: that should give you 32bit modes
[00:39] <zaxonspox> grmrgecko_: deamn it, gnome session wasnt started, thats why vino couldnt start
[00:39] <gogeta> pg1: then try it again eith linux32
[00:39] <gogeta> with
[00:40] <hiexpo> jrib, ya but all that does is clear it it does not delete it
[00:40] <pg1> Majora, fellow mac user, i feel your pain
[00:40] <jrib> hiexpo: yes it does
[00:40] <Typos_King> pg1:     ... ok...crap, then is a binary :{
[00:40] <jrib> hiexpo: "-c        clear the history list by deleting all of the entries"
[00:40] <Majora_> Thanks pg1
[00:40] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox: when I run gnome-session via ssh, it says cannot open display so I can't start vino.
[00:40] <gogeta> Typos_King: according to the faw using 32bit emu works
[00:40] <gogeta> faq
[00:41] <gogeta> Typos_King: i dont think he had it installed
[00:41] <donna_> bodsda: thanks I am totally lost here. once again, thanks
[00:41] <jrib> Kin`Away: explanation from me would just be me copying what the link ubottu gave you says and pasting it back to you.  So it's easier if you just read it
[00:41] <Bodsda> donna_: no worries - glad I could help
[00:41] <Typos_King> gogeta:    ... I gather..  I know I do have linux32 hehe, I checked
[00:41] <kaushal> hi again
[00:41] <kaushal> what are the supported laptops of Dell running ubuntu ?
[00:41] <Kin`Away> thank you
[00:41] <Kin`Away> and for those repositories
[00:41] <Kin`Away> http://ppa.launchpad.net
[00:41] <pg1> gogeta, what is the line limit for pasting
[00:41] <Typos_King> kaushal:    where's this leading to? :)
[00:42] <zaxonspox> grmrgecko_: did startx command worked?
[00:42] <gogeta> Typos_King: so he just needs ia32-libs
[00:42] <Typos_King> heh
[00:42] <Kin`Away> how can I install them
[00:42] <Typos_King> !paste | pg1
[00:42] <Kin`Away> ?
[00:42] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox: it says server is already started.
[00:42] <lazyPower> Question, from the 9.10 live cd, is SSHD included? I'm getting dpkg errors on attempt to install openssh-server.
[00:42] <grmrgecko_> for display 0
[00:42] <lazyPower> and i have run sudo apt-get update
[00:42] <hiexpo> jrib, ok if i use history -c it does clear it and it will not scroll back but after you close the shell and open it again everything will be back again
[00:42] <pg1> gogeta, http://paste.ubuntu.com/422454/
[00:42] <kaushal> Typos_King: is there a page dedicated for certified laptops running ubuntu ?
[00:42] <zaxonspox> grmrgecko_: mayby restart it /etc/init.d/gdm restart ?
[00:43] <gogeta> pg1: yes thats normal
[00:43] <Typos_King> kaushal:    hehehe, I don't even know what a 'certified laptop' is :{
[00:43] <gogeta> pg1: as i said sudo aptitude install ia32-libs
[00:43] <Bodsda> lazyPower: what dpkg errors?
[00:43] <Typos_King> I guess mine must be uncertified heh
[00:43] <pg1> gogeta, i did that lol
[00:43] <gogeta> pg1: then try again with linux32 file.run
[00:43] <jrib> hiexpo: the file is usually ~/.bash_history, you can delete it if you want
[00:43] <hiexpo> ok
[00:44] <lazyPower> Bodsda, not sure. I'm doing a remote support session with a friend trying to do file recovery
[00:44] <lazyPower> bodsda: do i need to get that error copied out for you?
[00:44] <Typos_King> pg1:    try ->   linux32 --help;
[00:44] <paissad> may someone who have debian pastebin me the output the output for "lsb_release -a" ?
[00:44] <paissad> thanks in advance
[00:44] <Typos_King> pg1:   why bother issuing the command if you may not even have it installed
[00:44] <pg1> smashes head into laptop
[00:44] <gogeta> pg1: you dud linux32 ./file.run
[00:44] <jrib> paissad: this is #ubuntu
[00:44] <gogeta> did
[00:44] <Bodsda> lazyPower: yeah - were not gonna be able to elp without knowing why dpkg is complaining
[00:44] <paissad> jrib, yes i know
[00:45] <gogeta> after installing ia32
[00:45] <lazyPower> k
[00:45] <pg1> gogeta, yes
[00:45] <gogeta> pg1: then we do methed 2
[00:45] <pg1> gogeta, lol-how to extract?
[00:45] <robertzaccour> hey does anyone know how to adjust audio capture in xubuntu? atm i can't really use skype
[00:45] <gogeta> pg1: ./file.rin -keep
[00:45] <gogeta> run
[00:46] <klabezo> please is there some one can provide a screen shouts from the ubuntu 10.4 ?
[00:46] <gogeta> pg1: it will still crash but the extracted file should stay
[00:46] <gogeta> pg1: then move them manuly to  /usr/local/games
[00:47] <Typos_King> klabezo:    http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-beta-1-screenshots-gallery.html
[00:47] <pg1> gogeta, where is extracted file?
[00:47] <FoolishOwl> What's Kubuntu's equivalent to Network Manager, for the purpose of determining nameservers?
[00:47] <gogeta> pg1: should be in the same dir
[00:47] <gogeta> pg1: if you used keep
[00:47] <klabezo> thank you typos
[00:47] <robertzaccour> hey does anyone know how to adjust audio capture in xubuntu? atm i can't really use skype
[00:47] <gogeta> pg1: sorry its --keep
[00:47] <pg1> gogeta, i did. same error. i dont see dir. gawd almight this shiuldnt be so hard
[00:48] <lazyPower> /var/cache/apt/archives/openssh-server_ver#_distinfo-i386.deb -- dpkg subprocess /usr/bin/dpkg returned and error code 1
[00:48] <gogeta> ./file.run --keep
[00:48] <lazyPower> Bodsda: /var/cache/apt/archives/openssh-server_ver#_distinfo-i386.deb -- dpkg subprocess /usr/bin/dpkg returned and error code 1
[00:48] <Typos_King> robertzaccour:   it'd be the same as in gnome's, since Xubuntu is just gnome using xfce as window manager, and a few lighter apps
[00:49] <un214> I thought I wanted a truely lightweight WM until I found out that if I do that I can't get apps to respect my X accessabiltiy settings
[00:50] <pg1> gogeta, it was one dir up! gaahhhh ok now I need to move them and everything should be a-ok?
[00:50] <gogeta> pg1: yep just make a launcher if you like
[00:50] <Bodsda> lazyPower: try   apt-get -f install
[00:50] <Typos_King> pg1:   serenity now, serenity now, serenity now -- seinfeld
[00:51] <gogeta> pg1: just drage and drop that entire dir into /usr/local/games
[00:51] <grmrgecko_> zaxonspox: I got it all working via vnc4server, I'll just stay with it. Thanks for the help.
[00:51] <jrib> paissad: #ubuntu is just for ubuntu support so debian questions should be asked in #debian
[00:51] <pg1> gogeta, permission denoed
[00:51] <pg1> lol
[00:51] <Typos_King> !gksudo | pg1
[00:51] <zaxonspox> grmrgecko_: if i only helped
[00:51] <gogeta> pg1: then sudo cp it
[00:52] <lazyPower> Bodsda, still returning error code 1
[00:52] <gogeta> pg1: sudo cp folder /usr/local/games
[00:52] <zerkms> wow, such populous channel
[00:52]  * Typos_King fears for pg1 in 'enemy territory'
[00:52] <Bodsda> lazyPower: could be that the package is semi-installed, try purging it   sudo apt-get purge <package>
[00:53] <Majora_> I'm trying to use Wine to play an ORPG with Ubuntu 9.10 on a white macbook version 4-1. The mouse works in every regard except when I try to click on the ground to move my character, although this problem doesn't exist when I use Ubuntu Jaunty, Intrepid and Hardy to do the same thing. I think the problem may originate from a driver change of some kind for the mouse, or the settings or...
[00:53] <Majora_> ...something along those lines. How can I revert the driver for the mouse in Ubuntu 9.10 back to the one used in 9.04 and earlier?
[00:53] <pg1> Typos_King, im not even going to play the damn game now. I just need to prove to validate my existance in getting it installed
[00:53] <lazyPower> k. Thanks
[00:53] <gogeta> pg1: well once the files in there you can delete the old one
[00:54] <lazyPower> can you isntall packages using a live CD?
[00:54] <gogeta> pg1: i just use cp if the copy goes wrong
[00:54] <lazyPower> maybe thats the issue, its trying to write to a read-only FS on the CD?
[00:54] <Bodsda> lazyPower: failing that, can you pastebin the entire output from the command down - yes you can, thats not the issue
[00:54] <Typos_King> lazyPower:    of course
[00:55] <Typos_King> lazyPower:    I think a live-usb allows you though
[00:55] <lazyPower> k, and if i had someone that knew how to type verbatim the error, i would be more than happy to paste it but i'm doing this over the phone, typing commands in notepad via teamview :| (by the way if you dont know they have a linux client now that is just... boobies and chicken.)
[00:55] <GreenDance> hi
[00:55] <ConcreteRose> j
[00:55] <lazyPower> not using a live-USB. PC wouldn't recognize a pendrive as a boot device
[00:55] <ZykoticK9> pg1, i was successfully abot to install ET on a 64bit Ubuntu without the need to use "linux32" at all, I simply used "sudo ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run" to install (gksu *might* be better though)
[00:55] <Bodsda> lazyPower: can you not tell them to pastebinit?
[00:55] <ZykoticK9> pg1, s/abot/able
[00:56] <gogeta> ZykoticK9: oh i hate you
[00:56] <un214> probably no internet there from the livecd
[00:56] <lazyPower> Bodsda, my mom's less than savvy on pastebin and typing out error messages by hand :|
[00:56] <gogeta> ll
[00:56] <gogeta> lol
[00:56] <pg1> ZykoticK9, are you serious
[00:56] <ConcreteRose> Zykotic?
[00:56] <ConcreteRose> TDP sounds better
[00:56] <Bodsda> lazyPower: she cant copy and paste?
[00:56] <gogeta> ZykoticK9: after i just had him do a manul extrack
[00:56] <lazyPower> fair enough. i frogt she's in X
[00:56] <zerkms> guys, would it be simple to migrate from gentoo to ubuntu?
[00:56] <ZykoticK9> pg1, yes - just tried when you mentioned it
[00:56] <lazyPower> you can cluebat me now
[00:56] <ConcreteRose> Electrocution is also coming.
[00:57]  * Bodsda cluebats lazyPower :)
[00:57] <lazyPower> lol
[00:57] <un214>
[00:57] <lazyPower> never in my life did i think i'd have a 4 hour tech support call with my mom :|
[00:57] <ZykoticK9> gogeta, sorry - i was just reported that i was successful, didn't mean to step on any toes, or get in the way of troubleshooting
[00:57] <GreenDance> has anyone on here tried to create their own window manager before
[00:57] <robertzaccour> Typos_King, its not the same its different, the controls are different
[00:57] <un214> I did
[00:57] <un214> it worked, barely
[00:57] <Bodsda> lazyPower: I have had worse - I spent 2 hours getting a Councillor to turn her printer on
[00:58] <gogeta> ZykoticK9: normaly lack of sudo wouuld give a diffrent error
[00:58] <GreenDance> un214, what was your experience like?
[00:58] <lazyPower> O.o
[00:58] <lazyPower> Seriously?
[00:58] <gogeta> strange
[00:58] <Bodsda> yeah
[00:58] <lazyPower> Wow
[00:58] <un214> at bit more primative than twm
[00:58] <robertzaccour> lazyPower, being a free tech support sucks huh lol
[00:58] <lazyPower> robertzaccour, indeed.
[00:58] <pg1> ZykoticK9, gogeta still cant get it. i dont know what the deal is.
[00:59] <kip> i do tech support at my high school, its mostly plugging in keyboards for retarted teachers
[00:59] <robertzaccour> lazyPower, you should bill her for gas cost every time you drive there lol jk
[00:59] <GreenDance> un214, did u give up?
[00:59] <gogeta> pg1: well we aruldy got it extracted you just gotta put it in usr/local/games
[00:59] <un214> I've still got it on that ancient disk
[00:59] <gogeta> pg1: using cp
[00:59] <un214> the reason for writing it no longer existed before I got it finished
[00:59] <lazyPower> robertzaccour, five states away? O.o i do it over the phone and just yank my hair out
[01:00] <robertzaccour> lazyPower, oh its not about 2 miles away like with my mom lol that sucks
[01:00] <un214> besides I now use ratposion to fill its role
[01:00] <lazyPower> i knwo
[01:00] <lazyPower> it was almost easier when i lived in the same state
[01:00] <arleslie> I just had ubuntu crash, I had a mouse pointer and the terminal popup with nothing on it except for a "_", any ideas how this happened?
[01:01] <Bodsda> lazyPower: we any closer to getting the output?
[01:01] <lazyPower> i could put it off until i came around for holiday
[01:01] <GreenDance> un214, I've been thinking today about building my own window manager, but in the last hour thought instead maybe look at another window manager and rebuild on theirs, because if i'm not wrong, the folosofy of linux is to build, share, rebuild share, is that right?
[01:01] <ZykoticK9> pg1, gogeta sorry pg1 i just saw your pastebin - you're getting a libgtk error!  See http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/gaming/error-while-loading-shared-libraries-libgtk-1-2-so-0 good luck.
[01:01] <lazyPower> bodsda: she went afk to go eat
[01:01] <lazyPower> ETA: 20 minutes
[01:01] <gogeta> ZykoticK9: its due to him being 64bit
[01:01] <Bodsda> lazyPower: lol - ok - well im off for now, someone else will be able to help
[01:01] <pg1> ZykoticK9, thats good I take it?
[01:01] <lazyPower> Thanks man
[01:01] <lazyPower> i think i know whats up
[01:01] <un214> GreenDance you're quite right and mine never worked well enough to be worth sharing
[01:01] <Bodsda> no worries
[01:01] <lazyPower> the local archive is borked
[01:01] <ZykoticK9> pg1, gogeta see the link - instructions for installing on 64bit there
[01:01] <Typos_King> arleslie:    boot using the live-cd/usb   and do a -> sudo e2fsck -c /dev/sda1;     assuming your installation is at 'sda1', if not, just change accordingly
[01:02] <lazyPower> the package info in /var/cache/apt/info and /var/cache/apt/archive needs to be removed and grab a fresh one
[01:02] <wildbat000> exit
[01:02] <gogeta> pg1: yea looks good
[01:02] <lazyPower> or is that bad practice?
[01:02] <Bodsda> lazyPower: you could always just reboot...
[01:02] <lazyPower> fair enough
[01:02] <lazyPower> lol
[01:02] <Majora_> I'm trying to use Wine to play an ORPG with Ubuntu 9.10 on a white macbook version 4-1. The mouse works in every regard except when I try to click on the ground to move my character, although this problem doesn't exist when I use Ubuntu Jaunty, Intrepid and Hardy to do the same thing. I think the problem may originate from a driver change of some kind for the mouse, or the settings or...
[01:02] <Majora_> ...something along those lines. How can I revert the driver for the mouse in Ubuntu 9.10 back to the one used in 9.04 and earlier?
[01:02] <robertzaccour> hey does anyone know how to adjust audio capture in xubuntu? atm skype isn't detecting audio capture
[01:02] <arleslie> Typos_King: My installation is perfectly fine, this is the first time it has happened and I've had ubuntu on here for about 4 months now and that has been ran about a week ago
[01:03] <lazyPower> robertzaccour, thats in the sound dialogue found under Preferences
[01:03] <lazyPower> you can set your input device as well as output
[01:03] <Typos_King> arleslie:    well.... either way :), there's always a 1st time for everything
[01:03] <gogeta> ZykoticK9: kinda a quick and dirty way but hell if it works
[01:04] <un214> what I could use is the smallest possible wm that allows me to set system colors away from defaults
[01:04] <ZykoticK9> gogeta, that library is really outdated - thus it's removal from Karmic, but yes certainly dirty
[01:05] <pg1> ZykoticK9, gogeta sooo, why me? and how to fix lol
[01:05] <ZykoticK9> pg1, not just you - everyone with Karmic is lacking that library (so at least you're not alone)
[01:06] <pg1> ZykoticK9, you are running something older that allowed it to work for you ?
[01:07] <ZykoticK9> pg1, no (actually i'm running something new then you probably) - you need to download the 3 old DEB files, and the getlibs program - then use getlibs to virtually install the 32bit libs onto your 64bit system - then you should be ready to rock
[01:07] <ZykoticK9> pg1, s/new/newer
[01:08] <inertial> what happened to that nice toolbar app that had a drop down menu of wireless networks within range that was in 8.04
[01:09] <Majora_> inertial, I'm running Intrepid right now and have that
[01:10] <Typos_King> inertial:  nm-applet?
[01:10] <gogeta> inertial: its still there just disappers when your connected
[01:11] <inertial> gogeta: is there a way to make it stay there?
[01:11] <rqiao> Whenever I try to boot Windows XP Professional on Grub, it appears as a blank screen with a "_" blinking on the top left
[01:11] <rqiao> how do I fix it?
[01:11] <inertial> Typos_King: I think it might be nm-applet.. i just tried to start nm-applet and it tells me it's already started.. which would make sense if it's hidden
[01:11] <rqiao> I installed Ubuntu after Windows XP
[01:11] <pg1> ZykoticK9, so, I downloaded the 3 things, then I installed the one that says for 64 bits from "all" still no joy-what did i miss?
[01:12] <ZykoticK9> pg1, are you installing using the getlibs program?
[01:12] <Thorax> Hi, experiencing serious lag when using shortcuts (CTRL+C, anything really, SHIFT+A.... any random combo causes the system to lag horribly...)
[01:12] <gogeta> inertial: when you disconnect it comes back
[01:12] <Thorax> could anyone help please?
[01:12] <Typos_King> inertial:  it may or may not show, depeding on settings I gather in the window manager, I use it and not use metacity or compiz, and on mine is there in the tray :)
[01:12] <gogeta> inertial: so its there when you need it
[01:12] <Bodsda> !ask | Thorax
[01:12] <ZykoticK9> pg1, you want to be downloading the 32 bit versions of those libraries
[01:13] <Majora_> I'm trying to use Wine to play an ORPG with Ubuntu 9.10 on a white macbook version 4-1. The mouse works in every regard except when I try to click on the ground to move my character, although this problem doesn't exist when I use Ubuntu Jaunty, Intrepid and Hardy to do the same thing. I think the problem may originate from a driver change of some kind for the mouse, or the settings or...
[01:13] <Majora_> ...something along those lines. How can I revert the driver for the mouse in Ubuntu 9.10 back to the one used in 9.04 and earlier?
[01:13] <Thorax> ubottu: makes sense, will do
[01:13] <inertial> gogeta: but I used to use it to connect to different wireless networks, and to get a new address using dhcp
[01:13] <Typos_King> rqiao:    no dice with the 'hiren's bootable cd'?
[01:13] <rqiao> I can't burn it atm
[01:13] <rqiao> :(
[01:13] <wookienz> just want to check...If i add a non priv user to my system, they can look around the directories but wont be able to execute anything ? if i want them to not look around theni need to dhrott them in their home? corect?
[01:13] <rqiao> I'm trying to find an alternative
[01:13] <gogeta> inertial: it still works that way
[01:13] <pg1> ZykoticK9, how do i tell it to use getlibs instead of default
[01:13] <k0ala> a very strange thing is happening.. when i goto to certain websites my ubuntu desktop restarts automatically.. any solutions?
[01:13] <un214> wookienz: no
[01:13] <Typos_King> rqiao:    didn't you say yesterday you have a burner? hehe
[01:14] <rqiao> Apparently not
[01:14] <rqiao> lol
[01:14] <un214> they can execute almost anything, but not as root
[01:14] <pg1> k0ala, "certain websites"
[01:14] <gogeta> inertial: its only invisable when your acully connected
[01:14] <pg1> lol
[01:14] <Bodsda> wookienz: most users will be able to view most items, and execute things they own, such as scripts they create or download
[01:14] <k0ala> pg1, jameslaicretive.com for example / chess.com
[01:14] <ZykoticK9> pg1, are you following the link i sent you?  It shows how to use getlibs -- are you sure you downloaded the 32bit versions of the libraries?
[01:14] <k0ala> jameslaicreative.com
[01:14] <Typos_King> rqiao:    from what I can tell, Grub is doing its part, the 'blinking cursor', just means that something went up with xp
[01:14] <rqiao> yeah
[01:15] <wookienz> so really i should chroot them
[01:15] <rqiao> idk what's wrong
[01:15] <hello_warudo> Do any open source projects need any help?
[01:15] <rqiao> i booted XP find before
[01:15] <inertial> gogeta: hmmmm, I just want to be able to see it when I already am connected
[01:15] <hello_warudo> debugging/adding new features?
[01:15] <rqiao> after Ubuntu though, it just stays blank
[01:15] <rqiao> fine*
[01:15] <Typos_King> rqiao:    after the ubuntu install?
[01:15] <wookienz> Bodsda: un214: so really i should chroot them
[01:15] <rqiao> yes
[01:15] <pg1> ZykoticK9, i did. I installed the getlib thing, and now I need to use that to install the 3 debs right? How do I open the three debs with the newly installed thing instead of regular deb installer?
[01:15] <gogeta> inertial: why i dont see any use if your on why still see it
[01:15] <Bodsda> wookienz: depends what your trying to do
[01:15] <Bodsda> s/do/achieve
[01:15] <un214> quite
[01:16] <wookienz> Bodsa: just allowing a mate tostore stuff on my system as an offsite backup
[01:16] <ZykoticK9> pg1, for the first one "sudo dpkg -i libglib1.2ldbl_1.2.10-19build1_i386.deb"
[01:16] <inertial> gogeta: to change wireless networks, and to 'fix' my connection when I need to get a new address from dhcp
[01:16] <ZykoticK9> pg1, sorry ignore my last statement - itswrong
[01:16] <gogeta> inertial: then just slect disconnect and its all visable again
[01:16] <un214> wookienz: then probably just don't let them read your home dir
[01:16] <pg1> ZykoticK9, it certainly scared me enough lol
[01:16] <ZykoticK9>  pg1 use "sudo getlibs -i libglib1.2ldbl_1.2.10-19build1_i386.deb"
[01:16] <inertial> gogeta: select disconnect from where?
[01:16] <Majora_> hello_warudo, maybe Wine?
[01:17] <gogeta> inertial: click on it
[01:17] <inertial> gogeta: but I can't see it :)
[01:17] <un214> wookienz: chroot won't prevent them from uploading their own binaries and running them if they want to have some fun
[01:17] <Bodsda> wookienz: I dont see why this needs a user account - will he be at your machine, physically?
[01:17] <k0ala> what could make it restart everytime i visit that website
[01:17] <gogeta> inertial: its the little wireless icone on the top
[01:17] <albertolempira> hey guys i'm trying to pair a Motorola S305 bluetooth headset with my notebook but i get a message saying "it doesn't support input service" and can't get it to work. Anybody know what could be happening? thanks in advance. I'm using kubuntu karmic, i don't if it matters.
[01:17] <Typos_King> gogeta:   I have it visiable at all times in my window manager, I see a huge use, to tell me my signal strength or any other access points with better  connection ^_^
[01:18] <gogeta> inertial: right click on it it will show the wifi your on then slect disconnect
[01:18] <inertial> gogeta: well for some reason it's not showing it
[01:18] <wookienz> Bodsda: no he wont be at the machine... just purely to upload stuff via an rsync command from his side.. Better options?
[01:18] <rqiao> So does anyone know what's up?
[01:19] <gogeta> inertial: not thats odd mine stays visable even connected just shows the network im on
[01:19] <pg1> ZykoticK9, doesnt work. gives me an error "wrong architecture, this is an i386 package" eff this. if I update to 10.4 will it work?
[01:19] <Typos_King> rqiao:    from what I can tell, Grub is doing its part, the 'blinking cursor', just means that something went up with xp
[01:19] <Typos_King> heheh
[01:19] <gogeta> now
[01:19] <wookienz> un214: ok thanks, ill look for a better option... essentially i dont know what i dont know.
[01:19] <inertial> gogeta: well I just killed it and restarted it
[01:19] <inertial> and it is showing again
[01:19] <rqiao> meh
[01:19] <rqiao> ok
[01:19] <ZykoticK9> pg1, updating WILL NOT HELP
[01:19] <inertial> gogeta: heh.. sorry for wasting your time.. :)
[01:20] <gogeta> inertial: so it crashed for some reasion
[01:20] <pg1> ZykoticK9, are you sure? it sounds pretty enticing right about now
[01:20] <Typos_King> rqiao:   can you paste your /boot/grub/grub.cfg file :)
[01:20] <inertial> gogeta: well it was running but the icon wasn't showing
[01:20] <Bodsda> wookienz: create a user, but dont give them a home dir - then create a folder in / called backup or something and grant that user wrx on that dir
[01:20] <gogeta> inertial: yea it shouldent have hid itsself
[01:20] <ZykoticK9> pg1, Lucid doesn't contain the library either - you'd need to follow the same steps with it
[01:21] <inertial> i'm going to log out and back in to see if it fixes itself
[01:21] <pg1> ZykoticK9, does get libs have a gui? I cant get terminal to use it
[01:21] <gogeta> inertial: i thought you where asking why it ewasent showing all networks
[01:21] <ZykoticK9> pg1, "wrong architecture" sounds like your trying to use dpkg instead of getlibs
[01:21] <ZykoticK9> pg1, no GUI for getlibs i'm affraid
[01:22] <gogeta> ineiros: btw its not hit disconnect justclicking on the connected network will disconnect you
[01:23] <Majora_> I have Ubuntu 9.10 installed on a white macbook version 4-1 and would like to roll back its mouse drivers and all mouse-related settings back to those used in Ubuntu 9.04 and earlier. How can I do this?
[01:24] <wookienz> Bodsda: could i not do the same with a home dir? restrict their rwx ability?
[01:25] <pg1> ZykoticK9, i got the first one installed, the second one says "no packages to install"
[01:25] <ZykoticK9> pg1, something wrong with the name you're giving it
[01:25] <pg1> ZykoticK9, but it has pkg in the name instead of getlibs
[01:25] <Bodsda> wookienz: preventing him from having a homedir restricts his influence on your system - infact, you dont actually need x, just +rw
[01:25] <Typos_King> Majora_:   we did see you, btw,  firstly I didn't know what to make out it, I don't think you can on a new version, unless the version allows, and I can't be sure, though sounds to me you may be asking the wrong question
[01:25] <cellofellow> Is there a way to keep the screen from locking when the system wakes from suspend?
[01:26] <ZykoticK9> pg1, only use get getlibs commands "sudo getlibs -i libgtk1.2_1.2.10-18.1build2_i386.deb"
[01:26] <pg1> ZykoticK9, im just dragging it inot terminal
[01:26] <pg1> ZykoticK9, its -l not -i i think
[01:26] <jsec> Hey all. Does anyone known a way under Karmic to extract the actual bytes of an audio file? I'm trying to do an analysis on random numbers, and I'm trying to get the random number pattern behind the white noise in audio.
[01:26] <ZykoticK9> pg1, -i is install i believe
[01:27] <inertial> jsec: what is the file format of your audio
[01:27] <jsec> .wav, although i can re-record it as an .ogg if necessary
[01:27] <ZykoticK9> pg1, sorry it's -i for DEB files
[01:27] <Typos_King> jsec:    to extract actual bytes?  what does that mean?
[01:27] <inertial> jsec: the tool sox is a nice 'swiss army knife' for wav files
[01:28] <wookienz> Bodsda: so the fact he has a home dir does that give him other abilities?
[01:28] <rolsworth> if i install the RC can i update to the final version?
[01:28] <Majora_> Typos_King: I'm following the 10 minute repeat question guideline in case anyone's AFK and have recently came back. What question should I ask?
[01:28] <inertial> jsec: if you know any programming, this guide is helpful for understanding the format of wav files http://www.sonicspot.com/guide/wavefiles.html
[01:28] <rolsworth> does the RC at least have a new desktop?
[01:28] <pg1> ZykoticK9, ok, i got them installed. The game is still not installing
[01:28] <ZykoticK9> pg1, what error?
[01:29] <unop> jsec, if the file is in a digitized format - then it's just a matter of treating the file as a collection of raw bytes which you can extract using any tool/programming language that can do that - after considering the headers
[01:29] <Bodsda> wookienz: not really
[01:29] <Typos_King> Majora_:     dunno, tell us what 'not working' means, and what you'd like or expect instead :)
[01:29] <hipitihop> any grub gurus here ? On a laptop with 9.10 although I think grub was never upgraded to 2, I booted lucid livecd and installed to a flash drive. Now can only see grub menu when flash drive is present otherwise I get error and grub recovery
[01:29] <pg1> ZykoticK9, same This installation doesn't support glibc-2.1 on Linux / unknown
[01:29] <pg1> (tried to run setup)
[01:30] <jsec> unop, inertial, Typos_King: essentially i'm trying to extract the bytes out of the "data" portion of the wav file, I was just wondering if there was any tool to do that or if I had to program something myself.
[01:30] <geirha> jsec: You'll find audio processing libraries for many programming languages. E.g. http://wiki.python.org/moin/Audio/
[01:30] <ZykoticK9> pg1, try using the "linux32 RESTOFCOMMAND..."
[01:30] <Typos_King> jsec:    data dumper can do that, 'dd'
[01:30] <inertial> jsec: sox might be able to do it... apt-get install sox
[01:30] <Typos_King> jsec:    in fact, is pretty much what 'dd' is for
[01:31] <DieZiege> huhu
[01:31] <inertial> Typos_King: well you have to know where to dd from... and different wav files can have more chunks at the start
[01:31] <Majora_> not working means that the input doesn't go through. I can click on the ground in the game world and nothing happens, nothing is registered. I would like for the input to go through. As it's being translated into windows language by Wine, I believe the issue is with a mouse setting that was changed in the leap from Jaunty to Karmic, as all versions of Ubuntu before Karmic can get that input...
[01:31] <Majora_> ...across through Wine and to the game
[01:31] <geirha> Typos_King: Oh, is that what dd is an abbriviation for :)
[01:31] <jsec> Typos_King, won't that give me the entire file in bytes (including headers), instead of just the direct audio data?
[01:31] <Typos_King> geirha: heheh, yea
[01:31] <DieZiege> can someone tell me where i can see all the users of an irc channel? im using xchat
[01:32] <pg1> hey ZykoticK9 guess what?
[01:32] <geirha> Typos_King: I've used it for years, never known what dd "meant" :)
[01:32] <Typos_King> jsec:    no, you can give 'dd' offset values, what kind of blocks to get, bytes or else, and such
[01:32] <Jordan_U> hipitihop: First boot into lucid and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and make sure that you select the flash drive as the only install device. Then boot 9.10 and do the same (except of course choose the internal hard drive as the install device)
[01:32] <pg1> DieZiege, on the right?
[01:32] <inertial> jsec: I am just reading the sox manpage, and yes it can do what you want
[01:32] <jsec> Typos_King, ok thx. I'll look into it as well as sox.
[01:32] <inertial> jsec: it can strip out the headers so you just have the data you want
[01:32] <pg1> ZykoticK9, it works! youre my hero. that was so incredibly complicated. thank you for all your help
[01:32] <jsec> inertial: just downloaded it, reading through the manpage as well...
[01:33] <ZykoticK9> pg1, glad to help
[01:33] <hipitihop> Jordan_U, in that order or can I just do the reconfigure on 9.,10 ?
[01:33] <lazyPower> Thanks for the help and the brain-rest. I'm backing up files now. #ubuntu is yet again a life saver.
[01:33] <Jordan_U> tadhg: Are you still here?
[01:33] <unop> jsec,  https://ccrma.stanford.edu/courses/422/projects/WaveFormat/  - indicates that the data portion starts at byte index 44 -- so you can use dd in such a way.  dd if=/path/to/file.wav of=/path/to/my.dat skip=44
[01:34] <Jordan_U> hipitihop: It doesn't need to be in that order but you *need* to run it under lucid or else grub will be installed to the HD again whenever the package is upgraded.
[01:34] <inertial> unop: it doesn't always, some wav files have extra info cunks
[01:34] <pg1> ZykoticK9, that was insanely difficult!
[01:36] <jsec> inertial, where in the manpage did you see the command?
[01:36] <inertial> jsec: yeah it's a bit of a long manpage... just search for raw
[01:36] <hipitihop> Jordan_U, I think I follow.. is there any danger of breaking my existing 9.10 install ? that is the important one and my workhorse
[01:37] <hipitihop> Jordan_U, also what confuses me is that when I do boot with the flash drive in, it shows the grub version as 1.97 and it is from this menu I can still boot my 9.10 from hdd
[01:38] <inertial> jsec: IIRC sox is actually pretty smart about the file extensions... it can infer the type of the audio file based on it. So you should just be able to go sox sound.wav sound.raw
[01:38] <Typos_King> heheh
[01:38] <Nattgew> I'm running mencoder and getting an error like here... http://pastebin.com/49tpncYk Am I missing a package or something? I think it worked before.
[01:38] <hipitihop> Jordan_U, however when I choose my 9.10 entry aand then run grub-install -v it reports 0.97
[01:38] <jsec> inertial: Premature EOF on .wav input file
[01:39] <k0ala>  need some help. .. whats happenning is when i visit certain websites like chess.com/jameslaicreative.com my machine restarts automatically.. ubuntu 9.10
[01:39] <Typos_King> inertial:    file can do that as well :|,     file MYFILE;   tells you what type it's, regardless of extension or name
[01:39] <TyanColte> http://pastebin.com/TfWcTn2T when trying to open an automounted ntfs filesystem i've been asking all day, nobody seems to know any help at all would be appreciated
[01:39] <inertial> jsec: was that a warning or an error message? did it actually create the raw?
[01:39] <Typos_King> I think it reads the 1st so many bytes off the header
[01:41] <jsec> inertial, looks like it created it. Now just to figure out how to manipulate it from there... >_<
[01:41] <inertial> jsec: you can convert the other way with sox, try sox sound.raw sound-new.wav and check it sounds hte same
[01:42] <Typos_King> TyanColte:   it means, it never automounted :)
[01:42] <Typos_King> hehe
[01:42] <Typos_King> TyanColte:   http://maketecheasier.com/auto-mount-your-ntfs-partition-in-ubuntu/2009/04/14
[01:42] <jsec> inertial: sampling rate not specified... I gotta read this manpage a little more in depth
[01:43] <inertial> jsec: oh yeah you'd have to tell it all that info because it's just a raw :) you just set it to whatever the sampling rate and size of hte original files
[01:43] <rqiao> meh
[01:43] <rqiao> im officially done with linux
[01:43] <mido> Is this the place to get help with FreeNX ?
[01:43] <rqiao> lols
[01:43] <jsec> inertial: gotcha
[01:43] <rqiao> too much hassle
[01:44] <mido> rephrase: Is there a better place to get help with FreeNX ?
[01:44] <Typos_King> rquiao:  too much hassle to burn a cd to check in xp? ok
[01:44] <gasull> Hi.  I've installed the Sun Java plugin in Ubuntu but I don't see it in about:plugins and I can't play Java in Firefox.  What should I do?  Thanks.
[01:45] <PwrSurge> how can I fix overlapping partitions using testdisk?
[01:45] <inertial> jsec: i'm curious to know if you'll find a pattern in the white noise :) good luck
[01:46] <Jordan_U> hipitihop: If you are using grub legacy on the internal hard drive then just boot into it and "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" (if /dev/sda is your hard drive).
[01:46] <jsec> inertial: thanks, and thanks for all the help, as well as Typos_King, unop, and geirha
[01:47] <JK3MP> Anyone know how i can install firefox 3.6? I added firefox repository from article and sudo apt-get firefox-3.6 etc. And it says newest version.
[01:47] <gintonic> Add the stable firefox ppa
[01:47] <JK3MP> But when i open FF and look at version it says v. 3.5.9
[01:47] <IdleOne> JK3MP: after adding the repo did you sudo apt-get update?
[01:47] <JK3MP> Yes i did.
[01:47] <Jordan_U> JK3MP: try running "firefox3.6" in the terminal.
[01:48] <JK3MP> I followed exadct instructions from ubuntugeek article.
[01:48] <Majora_> To follow the how to ask questions guidelines: I am using Ubuntu 9.10 on a white macbook version 4-1 and am trying to play a windows-only MMORPG known as NosTale by using Wine. To move your character in the game world you need to click on the ground near your character. Doing so moves your character to that position. When I do this in Ubuntu 9.10, the input is not registered by the game and...
[01:48] <Majora_> ...nothing happens. I would like the input to register, and for my character to move. To solve this I have looked in the bug reports of Wine and have found others with the similar problem, but no answers. I have also tested it using the same machine but with earlier versions of Ubuntu such as 9.04, 8.10, and 8.04. In these versions the input of my mouse is registered to the game world, and...
[01:48] <Majora_> ...my character moves. The input of my mouse in Ubuntu 9.10 for the game is registered when I click buttons on the GUI and do any other mouse-related function outside of clicking on the ground in the game world. I believe the cause of the lost input was some kind of setting or driver change for the mouse that was implemented in the leap from Ubuntu 9.04 to Ubuntu 9.10. How can I roll back...
[01:48] <Majora_> ...the driver and settings for the mouse in Ubuntu 9.10 back to those used in Ubuntu 9.04 and earlier?
[01:48] <FloodBot1> Majora_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:48] <JK3MP> Command not found.
[01:49] <JayX> I need a app / program that read text!
[01:49] <JayX> how do i do thjaty on Ubuntu?
[01:49] <JayX> that*
[01:49] <JK3MP> Anyone know my issue?
[01:49] <JK3MP> added repo with sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa
[01:49] <JayX> Text to speech *
[01:49] <JK3MP> Then sudo apt-get update , then sudo apt-get install firefox-3.6.
[01:49] <mayuya> do you know how to install XAMPP
[01:50] <IdleOne> Majora_: that seems to me to be more of a wine issue. older version of ubuntu also have older versions of wine. there may have been an update in wine that caused a regression. see #winehq they may be able to help
[01:50] <gintonic> ubuntu-mozilla-daily? Yuck ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable is where it's at
[01:50] <hipitihop> Jordan_U, ok, done that rebooting brb
[01:51] <Majora_> IdleOne: I don't think it was an update in Wine because I've tried to use other versions of Wine with the pre-9.10 versions of Ubuntu, and the changes in versions had no effect on the input of the mouse.
[01:51] <ZykoticK9> mayuya, installing a 3rd party browser doesn't make a lot of sence when there are packages for everything you need are built into Ubuntu's repositories - plus if you have issues this channel can more easily help out.  I don't have any links for xampp though, best of luck whatever you decide.
[01:51] <mido> could someone familiar with NX look at this output and tell me where it failed?
[01:51] <mido> http://paste.ubuntu.com/422475/
[01:51] <ZykoticK9> mayuya, s/browser/web server
[01:51] <Jordan_U> JayX: espeak "Hello world"
[01:51] <mylisto> so I am looking to upgrade to 9.10 - still running 8.04
[01:51] <JK3MP> Either way still says firefox-3.6 is already newest version when i try to install.
[01:51] <rqiaoo> guys 1 more question
[01:52] <rqiaoo> how do I uninstall ubuntu/system restore
[01:52] <mylisto> whats the safest way to do this?
[01:52] <rqiaoo> without going on windows xp
[01:52] <rqiaoo> ?
[01:52] <IdleOne> Majora_: ok I guess now the trick is to identify what package controls mouse behavior and then get it from packages.ubuntu.com
[01:52] <Jordan_U> JayX: Or "espeak -f /path/to/file.txt"
[01:52] <rqiaoo> How do I uninstall my computer to factory state on ubuntu
[01:53] <IdleOne> rqiaoo: you mean to a default ubuntu install? fresh installation. Ubuntu does not support rollbacks
[01:53] <rqiaoo> well
[01:53] <Majora_> IdleOne: Ah, okay. Thank you. I'll try to find that out.
[01:53] <ne7work> please someone tell me how to download this http://mirrors.unixsol.org/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware/ ?
[01:53] <rqiaoo> i just want to restore my computer to only windows xp
[01:53] <rqiaoo> considering i can't even go on windows xp as of now
[01:53] <IdleOne> Majora_: I would like to tell you which it is but I have no idea
[01:54] <greezmunkey> rqiaoo: did you ask in ##windows yesterday?
[01:54] <IdleOne> rqiaoo: to do that you will need a windows cd and !fixmbr
[01:54] <rqiaoo> no
[01:54] <rqiaoo> damn
[01:55] <skaalid> question, i have installed and uninstalled a few things from my 250gb hard drive, and then i have done a fresh install and know there is 189gb hard drive left!
[01:55] <mylisto> anyone?
[01:55] <Majora_> IdleOne: Oh, okay. Thank you a lot though, I really appreciate it.
[01:55] <rqiaoo> I just want windows xp back ;_;
[01:55] <greezmunkey> rqiaoo: do you have WinXP cd?
[01:55] <rqiaoo> no, it came with the computer
[01:55] <rqiaoo> I might possibly have it though..
[01:56] <aj00200> What version of python will be on Ubuntu 10.?04?
[01:56] <gintonic> Do you have a recovery partition? Like when they are too stingy to give you a CD
[01:56] <Majora_> In Ubuntu 9.04 and earlier versions, what package controls mouse behavior? Is there a more specific support channel that I should go to for this kind of question?
[01:56] <ne7work> please someone tell me how to download this http://mirrors.unixsol.org/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware/ ?
[01:56] <gintonic> ne7work, What do you actually want to download?
[01:56] <greezmunkey> gintonic: he installed ubuntu over the top of XP yesterday, now xp won
[01:57] <greezmunkey> heh, won't boot.
[01:57] <gintonic> XP won, lol
[01:57] <JayX> Jordan_U,  thanks! :D  was heading to bed, and didnt feel like reading a blog, so will have espeack red it for me :P
[01:57] <rqiaoo> S ois there anyway to uninstall
[01:57] <aj00200> rqiaoo: you need to REinstall windows
[01:58] <skaalid> i have a hard drive question
[01:58] <SlipperyChicken> word.
[01:58] <greezmunkey> gintonic: understand, that heh I typed was because I accidently hit enter instead of '
[01:58] <ne7work> just download http://mirrors.unixsol.org/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware/ help please ?
[01:58] <ne7work> I need just download http://mirrors.unixsol.org/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware/ help please ?
[01:58] <IdleOne> ne7work: this is offtopic but http://mirrors.unixsol.org/slackware/slackware-13.0-iso/
[01:58] <JayX> Jordan_U,  how to i control the speed of it speaking?
[01:58] <IdleOne> let the slackware community know we helped you :)
[01:58] <aj00200> skaalid: what is it?
[01:59] <puff> Hi, I was trying to follow this tutorial to fix the MBR:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[01:59] <gintonic> Maybe he wants to mirror that slackware repo
[01:59] <ZykoticK9> ne7work, ask in ##slackware
[01:59] <ne7work> ZykoticK9, there all ignore me
[01:59] <wookienz> Bodsda: if home dirs give him no more abilities then i could just restrict his access like your suggestion of a "backup dir".
[01:59] <puff> But, it says boot into live CD, sudo grub.  Booted 9.10 and brought up the terminal and got "sudo: grub:  command not found."
[02:00] <ne7work> i only need to download this directory http://mirrors.unixsol.org/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware/ with all files please someone help me :(
[02:00] <gasull> where is the package for Java SE Runtime Environment 6u20?
[02:00] <hipitihop> Jordan_U, indeed that seems to have worked... streight into 1.5 and booted my normal 9.10 without flash drive inserted.. many thanks
[02:00] <Flannel> puff: What version of Ubuntu do you have currently?
[02:00] <IdleOne> ne7work: that directory has many more dir inside it. you will need to download then separately
[02:01] <ZykoticK9> ne7work, if you know how to download torrents http://slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php
[02:01] <puff> Flannel: Used to have, hm, 9.04, I think.
[02:01] <skaalid> i have installed and uninstalled a few things from my 250gb hard drive, and have done a re install and know i have 189gb
[02:01] <gintonic> ne7work, Use wget with recursive downloading
[02:01] <JayX> Jordan_U,  thanks :D used the MAN pages
[02:01] <puff> Flannel: My brother formatted the ubuntu partition with some windows tool.
[02:01] <JayX>  Gnight all!
[02:01] <yoyoned> ne7work: use wget http://www.delorie.com/gnu/docs/wget/wget_31.html
[02:01] <Flannel> puff: Alright, 9.04 uses GRUB version 1, 9.10 uses GRUB version 2, so you'll need to get a 9.04 or earlier version to reinstall GRUB (version 1)
[02:01] <puff> Flannel: And now grub gives me "Error 22".
[02:02] <puff> Flannel: Ah, I have an 8.10 LTS disk.
[02:02] <Flannel> puff: That'll work
[02:02] <puff> Cool.
[02:02] <Flannel> puff: 8.04 is LTS, 8.10 isn't, but either will work
[02:02] <puff> I also downloaded and burned Super Grub Disk, but apparently the burn failed.
[02:03] <puff> Flannel: right, 8.0.4 (just dug it up).
[02:03] <Yoshario> Hey
[02:03] <Yoshario> I get this message
[02:03] <Yoshario> installArchives() failed: dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[02:03] <linux> Hello.  I am trying to set up xcompmgr with LXDE/openbox and Docky, but need to tweak the opacity/transparency setting - any guidance would be appreciated.
[02:03] <Yoshario> I'm using Lucid Lynx
[02:04] <Flannel> Yoshario: #ubuntu+1 for Lucid support, thanks
[02:04] <greezmunkey> Yoshario: you have add/remove open, or Synaptic??
[02:05] <linux> Hello.  I am trying to set up xcompmgr with LXDE/openbox and Docky, but need to tweak the opacity/transparency setting - any guidance would be appreciated.
[02:06] <bmorris> Hey everybody.  Does anybody have experience with Motion and working with the pan/tilt?
[02:07] <carl-cbm> I just noticed that if I rename a PNG file to have a .gif extension, nautilus misidentifies the file as a GIF file
[02:07] <b0w> Hello! how can i easily open a ftp server on my pc so a friend can download a biig file from me?
[02:07] <linux> anyone here use xcompmgr?
[02:07] <Majora_> IdleOne: I have located the package in Jaunty that controls mouse behavior. How can I replace the package that 9.10 uses with the package that Jaunty uses?
[02:07] <carl-cbm> b0w: it's probably easier for them to copy it by scp
[02:08] <Majora_> or anyone for that matter. I didn't mean to violate the don't ask specific users questions guideline
[02:08] <Flannel> b0w: The easiest way to do it is to use sftp (which actually runs over ssh), so install openssh-server, forward port 22 on your router, and have him connect (make a useraccount for him too, if he doesn't have one yet)
[02:08] <gintonic> b0w: probably easiest to use sshd
[02:08] <Re4smkr> 420chan
[02:09] <linux> Anyone here using LXDE?
[02:09] <b0w> ok, thanks all for your help i will read about em and then decide, thanks for the advice!
[02:09] <mylisto> is it possible to do an upgrade via a cd/dvd of ubuntu?
[02:10] <Flannel> mylisto: Yeah, the alternate CD (not the desktop one) or the DVD
[02:10] <mylisto> flannel: I'm worried about my laptop shutting down, not sure why it happens...only happens once in a while...
[02:10] <mylisto> could this be fatal during the upgrade?
[02:11] <Flannel> mylisto: Certainly not fatal, it would just require you to come back and complete the upgrade manually, with the slight possibility of having a package or two you need to poke at a little afterwards
[02:12] <mylisto> also flannel: I'm using 8.04, can I upgrade to 9.10 right away..or does it have to be incremental still?
[02:12] <Flannel> mylisto: Once 10.04 comes out (this week) you can upgrade straight from 8.04 to 10.04 (LTS to LTS), but you cant upgrade straight from 8.04 to 9.10
[02:13] <mylisto> do you think I should just wait for 10.04?
[02:13] <mylisto> my main issue for wanting to upgrade is that I'm over the sound issues with 8.04
[02:13] <mylisto> I tested my usb headset with a live 9.10 and the sound is cherry!
[02:14] <Flannel> mylisto: I'd wait, yeah.  Can you live a week?  It's easier to upgrade once than to upgrade three/four times
[02:14] <mylisto> and what is lts?
[02:14] <mylisto> the upgrade is pretty much automatic isn't it?
[02:14] <Flannel> LTS is Long Term Support, 6.06, 8.04, and soon 10.04 are LTS releases, supported for 3 years on the desktop and 5 on the server (opposed to 18 months)
[02:15] <Flannel> mylisto: Yeah, you'll get a notification in update-manager, asking if you want to upgrade
[02:16] <IdleOne> Majora_: sorry I was afk for a bit. Ok you need to download the package from packages.ubuntu.com save it to your desktop. then remove the existing package but note it's name (in case you need to re-install it) then double click on the .deb file you saved to your desktop and that will start the install of that package
[02:16] <mylisto> I'm probably going to upgrade to 9.04 for now, then upgrade to 10 when it comes out
[02:17] <gintonic> Upgrade to 10.04 RC now
[02:17] <RobW> Hey guys, I can't seem to access my Windows XP printer from Ubuntu using Samba. I can, however, see my windows XP machine, but not the printer that's connected to it. Any ideas?
[02:17] <puff> Flannel: Argh... okay, so booted up 8.0.4 and did sudo grub, then find /boot/grub/stage1, got "Error 15: File not found"
[02:17] <IdleOne> Majora_: note that this may or may not work, could be dependency issues.
[02:17] <Majora_> IdleOne: Thank you so much for your help. How do I uninstall a package? The option is grayed out in Synaptic Package Manager
[02:18] <IdleOne> Majora_: what is the package name?
[02:18] <Flannel> puff: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows has a few ways, and some troubleshooting info
[02:18] <Majora_> IdleOne Oh. What is a dependency issue? And I'm somewhat confident this is the issue, as the package that controls the mouse also uses a different package that is a library. I think something was changed in the mouse library package in Karmic that differs from Jaunty's
[02:19] <Majora_> IdleOne: gpm and libgpm2
[02:19] <mylisto> also flannel: I came across this "Using packages from repositories not controlled by Ubuntu is not recommended as it can be a security risk and may break or complicate your upgrade. If you have used EasyUbuntu or Automatix (neither of which is recommended nor supported), you may have problems upgrading to a newer version and may require a fresh install. If you have installed software from other sources, the upgrade may go more smooth
[02:19] <mylisto> ly if you remove this software before attempting the upgrad"
[02:19] <Flannel> mylisto: Did you use one of those?
[02:19] <IdleOne> Majora_: dependendies are files that are required by other packages. i.e file1 /needs/ file2 or it won't install
[02:20] <mylisto> easyubuntu or automatix?
[02:20] <Flannel> mylisto: Aye
[02:20] <mylisto> Are they talking about packages as in certain programs?
[02:20] <Flannel> Or "ultimatix"
[02:20] <Majora_> IdleOne: Oh. So libgpm2 would be a dependency for gpm
[02:20] <mylisto> I didn't use either of those
[02:20] <IdleOne> Majora_: right now in Synaptic does gpm have a green box next to it?
[02:20] <Flannel> mylisto: What are you concerned with about that paragraph?
[02:21] <Majora_> IdleOne: No
[02:21] <mylisto> Flannel: I thought they meant any programs that were not supported in the rep's
[02:21] <RobW> Nevermind, it works now :)
[02:21] <Flannel> mylisto: That's also a concern, yeah, what have you installed from third parties?
[02:21] <Majora_> IdleOne: The box is unchecked and white
[02:21] <IdleOne> Majora_: I would try installing that before removing libgpm2
[02:22] <IdleOne> Majora_: so install gpm and also leave libgpm2 installed and try your game
[02:22] <mylisto> off the top of my head...hmm...hard to remember
[02:22] <Majora_> IdleOne: Ah. I'm using Intrepid right now, so I should check Karmic to see if that's green or not.
[02:22] <IdleOne> Majora_: yes :)
[02:22] <Flannel> mylisto: Then I wouldn't worry about it, the upgrade process will look at those and sort them out in most cases
[02:22] <mylisto> cool
[02:24] <Majora_> IdleOne: Okay, thank you so much. I really really appreciate it :).
[02:24] <IdleOne> Majora_: don't thank me yet :)
[02:25] <mylisto> and one last question (methinks :D ), the upgrade via the alternate cd should be much faster, right?
[02:25] <Majora_> IdleOne: If enabling gpm in Karmic doesn't solve the problem is it safe to say that my next step should be to replace libgpm2 in Karmic with the file used in Jaunty?
[02:25] <IdleOne> Majora_: worth a try yes
[02:25] <Majora_> IdleOne Okay. Thanks :)
[02:27] <Majora_> IdleOne: Do I need to restart my machine in order for the changes inacted by newly installed packages to take effect?
[02:27] <IdleOne> no
[02:27] <Majora_> Okay. Thanks again XD
[02:27] <b2bwild> Hello after installing some updates, I'm getting very slow download speed while downloading from apt-get / synaptic, I also changed source server, and selected best server, but speed is still in Bytes Per Second, while downloading from browser gives me normal speed (Karmic Koala i386)
[02:28] <kkb110_> ls
[02:28] <kkb110_> ..
[02:28] <darksider> can someone help me with this please? i have been trying to install ogre3d for like 6 hours
[02:29] <darksider> i used about 3 different methods
[02:29] <darksider> bash script, compile from source and DL
[02:29] <ownerdevida> any install process that takes longer than 4 hours should be abandoned. its in a man page somewhere
[02:29] <darksider> but when i try to compile an example app out of my programming book - it underlines the includes
[02:29] <kkb110_> exit
[02:29] <red2kic> kkb110_: You want /userlist ?
[02:30] <pepee> hi people
[02:30] <Lostinspace_46> Well, here's one I bet you don't see to often...I seem to have lost my "rm" command.
[02:31] <pepee> k0ala needs help, but I can't help him by myself
[02:31] <pepee> please, read this: http://pastebin.com/eHfhb5T3
[02:31] <Vigo> lostinspace_46: That is a good one, uhm, terminal tabs?
[02:32] <Nattgew> I'm running mencoder and getting an error like here... http://pastebin.com/49tpncYk Am I missing a package or something? I think it worked before.
[02:32] <pepee> k0ala, explain what your problem is
[02:32] <Lostinspace_46> Vigo I don't follow.
[02:33] <red2kic> Lostinspace_46: Wow. You lost rm? How did that happen? You can... use shred? :P
[02:33] <b2bwild> Help, I lost my Nautilus's "Up Button" after update.
[02:33] <schultza> how do i tell linux to limit its connection speed for all traffic without using an outside device?
[02:33] <Vigo> Lostinspace_42: That is a Terminal call, are you using Tabs in the Terminal?
[02:34] <k0ala> logged off again :(
[02:35] <k0ala> i get logged off from the system whenever i visit certain websites like chess.com. also when pepee asked me to run a game, i ran trigger (racing game) and it immediately logged me off not a normal lofg off
[02:36] <Lostinspace_46> red2kic,  I had 2 clocks and no drop down for me in panel. Thought an extra panel had come up somehow, and I deleted it...the "rm" seems to have left at the same time
[02:36] <red2kic> !resetpanel | Lostinspace_46
[02:37] <Ben64> schultza: tc can do it, don't know the exact command though
[02:37] <red2kic> Lostinspace_46: That would fix your panels but I can't see how it is relevant to rm.
[02:38] <wildbat> what is commaned to show all the disk drives in shell?
[02:38] <Schmitty> df
[02:38] <Lostinspace_46> red2kic, I seem to have all my other commands.  Oh, I got the panels back I just uninstalled and re-installed gnome-desktop
[02:39] <red2kic> wildbat: dh -H (or pydf for color goodness)
[02:40] <wildbat> df won't show if it is not mounted, right?
[02:40] <red2kic> wildbat: Right. If you just want to list devs, use "sudo fdisk -l"
[02:40] <Lostinspace_46> Vigo Yes I am using tabs
[02:40] <Schmitty> wildbat,  no
[02:40] <pepee> anyone can help k0ala ?
[02:40] <robertzaccour> i just installed xubuntu and now my discs and usb devices aren't being displayed. i didn't have this problem with gnome
[02:40] <robertzaccour> any ideas?
[02:42] <Vigo> Lostinsapce_42: dpkg (fix) <that is not the CLI argument, but is close,
[02:42] <robertzaccour> is this an xfce bug?
[02:43] <Lostinspace_46> Vigo I will look at that
[02:44] <Vigo> Lostinspace_42: Here is one, still looking for the Ubuntu page on it: > http://mediakey.dk/~cc/debian-dpkg-and-apt-get-guide/
[02:45] <Lostinspace_46> Vigo Checking it now
[02:46] <robertzaccour> i just installed xubuntu and now my discs and usb devices aren't being displayed. i didn't have this problem with gnome
[02:46] <wildbat> thanks, red2kic.
[02:46] <robertzaccour> any ideas?
[02:46] <schultza> !brasero copier
[02:47] <Vigo> Lostinspace_42: here also: http://www.debianadmin.com/debianubuntu-package-management-using-dpkg.html :> or use the Restore option at boot?
[02:48] <pepee> can someone help k0ala ??
[02:48] <Vigo> Robertzaccour: Lucid?
[02:49] <pepee> Vigo, he left the channel
[02:49] <brad__> hello
[02:49] <Vigo> pepee: Okee dokee, Thank you
[02:50] <pepee> np
[02:50] <brad__> i had a question about ubuntu
[02:50] <Vigo> k0ala: The USB stopped working after an Update?
[02:50] <hiexpo> !ask
[02:51] <grndslm> debian or ubuntu?  :)
[02:51] <k0ala> Vigo, ?? which usb?
[02:51] <pepee> Vigo, please, read this: http://pastebin.com/eHfhb5T3
[02:51] <Vigo> k0ala: Whoops, I misread that one, you have crashes and log offs?
[02:52] <k0ala> Vigo, yes
[02:52] <k0ala> my machine seems to be in a very pathetic state
[02:52] <fauzy> k
[02:52] <b0w> how can i start the sshd daemon??
[02:53] <ZykoticK9> b0w, assuming karmic "sudo service ssh start" should work
[02:53] <b0w> okey
[02:55] <Vigo> pepee: Ok, that looks like rough one, kernel panic maybe?
[02:55] <pepee> Vigo, nope, X crashes
[02:55] <brad__> i needed help on compiz to activate the cylinder or cube for the desk top
[02:56] <Vigo> pepee: Does it run in CLI?
[02:56] <ZykoticK9> brad__, do you have ccsm installed?  do you have cube and rotate cube enabled?
[02:56] <pepee> Vigo, ??
[02:56] <pepee> Vigo, ask k0ala
[02:56] <scunizi> b0w: sudo service ssh start
[02:56] <k0ala> Vigo?
[02:56] <Vigo> pepee: Text , Command Line Interface
[02:57] <soreau> brad__: We can help you in #compiz
[02:57] <k0ala> Vigo, what runs in cli??
[02:57] <brad__> i go to the compiz settings manager and it nver enables
[02:57] <Vigo> k0ala: The System.
[02:57] <pepee> Vigo, what are you talking about?
[02:58] <brad__> what is ccsm
[02:58] <soreau> ! ccsm | brad__
[02:58] <ZykoticK9> brad__, follow soreau -- /join #compiz
[02:58] <k0ala> i am logge din te graphics interface.. it works.. but it fails/crashes on visiting certain websites
[02:58] <k0ala> Vigo, ^
[02:59] <Vigo> I am trying to help pepee and k0ala, if you can boot into CLI you can repair, fix Xorg, usually.
[02:59] <k0ala> vigo how can i connect to irc on commnadline?
[02:59] <preston_> Hey. I recently tried to watch a video on hulu, but got an error saying "we're sorry but we're unable to stream videos to your system. This may be due to an Adobe software limitation on 64-bit Linux systems." I am not sure what is wrong hear. I am pretty sure everything is up to date as I used to be able to watch movies using Ubuntu 9.10. Does anyone know which specific adobe package  might not be working.
[02:59] <preston_> Flash?
[03:00] <Vigo> k0ala: irrsi, or just run a terminal.
[03:00] <pepee> Vigo, is not that easy...
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> preston_:  the hulu desktop player can work - even tho watching videos in a browser dosent work. (I think their error message is missledading)
[03:00] <pepee> you have to know what's the problem BEFORE trying to solve it
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> preston_:  i fund the huludesktop player works better for me then in a brower also.
[03:01] <eveningsky> Alt+MouseWheel fades a window in and out. I want to turn it off. I've looked through Compiz settings and Gnome keyboard shortcuts, can't locate the source.
[03:01] <preston_> Dr_Willis: Ok thanks I will try that
[03:01] <Vigo> pepee: Good point, that is why I wanted to see some outputs.
[03:01] <soreau> eveningsky: OBS plugin
[03:01] <soreau> eveningsky: Opacity, Brightness and Saturation
[03:02] <pepee> Vigo, what outputs?
[03:02] <pepee> you have the logs pasted
[03:02] <jsec> Does anyone know if a program exists for Ubuntu/Linux in general for analyzing patterns of random numbers?
[03:02] <k0ala> jsec, i will be interested in that too
[03:02] <eveningsky> soreau. sweet. thanks.
[03:02] <Vigo> pepee: I was going to get to that also, let me read those logs again..
[03:02] <gingerheadman> does anyone know of a program for linux that lets you edit memory values in a running program (similar to tsearch on windows)?
[03:02] <pepee> I just can't see the problem in them
[03:03] <pepee> Vigo, ok, np
[03:03] <jsec> k0ala, i've searched google ad nauseum... found nothing :(
[03:03] <k0ala> jsec - what keywords?
[03:04] <brad__> thanks for your help
[03:04] <Vigo> pepee: Is that on Lucid?
[03:05] <k0ala> Vigo,  karmic 9.10
[03:05] <moderndayzero> hello i have a few problems with my console emulators and was wondering if anyone could help me out
[03:05] <Vigo> pepee: LAMP is installed?
[03:05] <jsec> k0ala, random number analysis program
[03:05] <k0ala> Vigo, yes
[03:05] <pepee> Vigo, ask k0ala ...
[03:06] <pepee> I just tried to help him
[03:06] <k0ala> pepee.. should i reinstall the os?
[03:07] <Vigo> k0ala: You just answered my next question.
[03:07] <pepee> k0ala, try testing the machine under the live cd
[03:08] <pepee> I mean, run games, test the file system, test the memory,...
[03:08] <pepee> if it runs fine, then it's an OS-related problem
[03:09] <k0ala> i think i wont install ubuntu then.. maybe i will try mint
[03:09] <Vigo> k0ala: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/index.html
[03:09] <pepee> if not, then you have a hardware problem
[03:09] <pepee> k0ala, there's no need to reinstall
[03:10] <scunizi> pepee: what's k0ala  trying to do?
[03:10] <pepee> as I said, you have to find the problem
[03:10] <k0ala> i amm all willing to, but i dont know where to start
[03:11] <dark-knight> k0ala what's your problem?
[03:11] <k0ala> will check out thru livecd
[03:11] <pepee> scunizi, the X crashes when he load some websites or games
[03:11] <scunizi> pepee: sounds like flash
[03:11] <robertzaccour> how do i change panel colors in xfce?
[03:11] <scunizi> pepee: and or java (lack of it
[03:11] <k0ala> dark-knight, youtube works
[03:11] <pepee> scunizi, nope, the sites don't have flash
[03:11] <pepee> nor java
[03:11] <pepee> scunizi, the sites have heavy load javascript apps
[03:12] <CkhiKuzad> whenever i run a flash based site, the flash seems to lag HORRIBLY, but it lags less on my Debian distro, and i have virtually no lag on my windows install
[03:12] <pepee> that's why I think it's a memory problem,
[03:12] <k0ala> dark-knight, mys sytem logs me off (crashes xserver) whenever i vist certain websites
[03:12] <Vigo> scuinzi: It is a server error: here is the paste:> http://pastebin.com/eHfhb5T3
[03:12] <pepee> ^^ and run games
[03:12] <k0ala> pepee should i remove one memory module?
[03:12] <scunizi> CkhiKuzad: did you install flashplugin-nonfree or gnash or both and/or another?
[03:13] <wildbat> pepee, do a memtest68+?
[03:13] <dark-knight> robertzaccour you can change the themes by going to applications then appearance
[03:13] <Lostinspace_46> OK I have googled and forumed to no avail.  Evidently I am the first person ever to lose their "rm" command (go figure).  Possibly I could fix it if I knew what pkg held the command lines. "rm" seems to be the only lost command...sigh.
[03:13] <CkhiKuzad> scdunizi, i installed flashplugin-nonfree i think. which is better?
[03:13] <pepee> k0ala, try testing your modules on another machine, and other modules on your motherboard
[03:13] <CkhiKuzad> scdunizi, i installed flashplugin-nonfree.
[03:14] <k0ala> pepee, this one is ddr1 :(
[03:14] <k0ala> i have only one board
[03:14] <k0ala> other are laptops
[03:14] <scunizi> CkhiKuzad: flashplugin-nonfree or the one direct from adobe.. but you can't run 2 at the same time.
[03:15] <pepee> k0ala, well, run memtest against them
[03:15] <John47> hi all - looking to dual boot win 7 and ubuntu lucid on my dell mini 9 - used to be easy before, but now GParted will not recognize the windows partition....Any ideas?
[03:15] <pepee> k0ala, or ask a friend for help
[03:15] <scunizi> k0ala: might be video driver as well.
[03:15] <k0ala> ok will run the memtest again
[03:15] <k0ala> how many rounds?
[03:15] <k0ala> 6-7?
[03:15] <CkhiKuzad> seeing the fact that fp-nf sucks with my system, i will try installing the adobe one, thanks scunizi (i think i have the adobe one on debian and windows anyway)
[03:15] <robertzaccour> dark-knight, i don't see a color selector. i want dark black instead of charcoal
[03:16] <k0ala> scunizi, how do i confirm that
[03:16] <pepee> k0ala, run all the tests
[03:16] <scunizi> CkhiKuzad: make sure you uninstall the other before installing the new
[03:16] <pepee> scunizi, there's nothing in the logs
[03:16] <CkhiKuzad> i just did that, scunizi. thanks though
[03:16] <John47> hi all - looking to dual boot win 7 and ubuntu lucid on my dell mini 9 - used to be easy before, but now GParted will not recognize the windows partition....Any ideas?
[03:16] <dark-knight> robertzaccour their isn't a color selector as far as i know, but if you click on the style it will change the color, you can also download different themes from xfce look
[03:17] <pepee> scunizi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/422491/  <- X server logs from k0ala's machine
[03:17] <scunizi> k0ala: sorry, I've no idea.. pepee might have to look in the x.org logs.
[03:17] <robertzaccour> dark-knight, ok thanks
[03:18] <pepee> John47, corrupted MBR?
[03:18] <The-Moon> what do i type in to load linux from the console / terminal ?
[03:18] <wildbat> k0ala, check for overheat may be?
[03:18] <John47> pepee: perhaps....how would I tell?
[03:18] <CloudLevi> h00k: How do I stick stuff in the programs drop-down for Wine? =_=;;;
[03:19] <k0ala> wildbat, the temp probe in the bios says 53-54C
[03:19] <pepee> John47, run "sudo cfdisk" from the console
[03:19] <John47> pepee: the win7 installer works, separately, and the ubuntu installer works, but neither installer will see the others' partitions.
[03:19] <pepee> the-dude, linux is the kernel
[03:19] <scunizi> pepee: looks like the initialization fell back to the vesa driver and didn't implement the intel driver.. I could be wrong but I saw a couple of lines showing that.
[03:19] <dark-knight> anyone have any experience with webcams? i have a xubuntu 9.10 and a logitech c500     the camera is detected when using online sites such as chatroulette (lol) but then the built in mic is not recognized. using skype the microphone is detected but not the camera
[03:19] <John47> pepee: will do, one second
[03:20] <hiexpo> !webcam
[03:20] <pepee> the-dude, do you mean, run linux from grub console?
[03:20] <The-Moon> Murr, can anyone help ?)
[03:20] <John47> pepee: running lucid from the live cd right now
[03:20] <wildbat> k0ala, not the bios ~ the temp. when high load
[03:20] <sloopy> i am trying to watch tv on my pvr-500, in xawtv the screen is blank, but i can hear the audio, if i open vlc and connect it to /dev/video0 i can see the video, and even change the channels in xawtv while watching...
[03:20] <The-Moon> pepee are you talking to me?
[03:20] <k0ala> wildbat, how do i find it?
[03:21] <pepee> The-Moon, yep, sorry...
[03:21] <sloopy> i would like to be able to see audo/video on xawtv, and also see whats on the composite video inputs...
[03:21] <a16BitSoft> I signed up for the mailing list and wish to email to it but it returns ERROR: Sender address rejected: not logged in ???
[03:21] <scunizi> The-Moon: you want to load linux from the terminal? you mean the gui?
[03:21] <pepee> tab fail lol
[03:21] <John47> pepee: I should say that I had previously installed mac OSX on this computer, but then I decided against it and reformatted.
[03:21] <scunizi> The-Moon: sudo service gdm start
[03:22] <The-Moon> nvm i just typed y and it fucked up :|
[03:22] <John47> pepee: it says: "Warning!!  Unsupported GPT (GUID partition table) detected.  Use GNU parted."
[03:22] <IdleOne> !language | The-Moon
[03:22] <wildbat> k0ala,  lm-sensors
[03:22] <b0w> hello!, so i installed sshd, opened port 22 on my router, but i still cant connect via ssh to my server, anyone any idea?
[03:22] <dark-knight> ubottu how do i change the sound preferences in xubuntu as there is no option like in ubuntu
[03:22] <The-Moon> oh okay my bad sorrys!! i didnt realize, i will be careful
[03:23] <k0ala> wildbat, command not found
[03:23] <The-Moon> i dont think that worked btw, i am using the newest version of ubuntu... It said gdm start/running, process 1572, and then stayed in console
[03:23] <pepee> John47, hehe, that's unknown for me
[03:23] <dark-knight> anyone have any experience with webcams? i have a xubuntu 9.10 and a logitech c500     the camera is detected when using online sites such as chatroulette (lol) but then the built in mic is not recognized. using skype the microphone is detected but not the camera
[03:23] <hiexpo> !webcams | dark-knight
[03:23] <John47> pepee: oh, what's unknown?  Man, how do I deal with an "unsupported GPT"?????
[03:23] <pepee> John47, perhaps lucid is incompatible with win7? try asking in #ubuntu+1
[03:24] <wildbat> k0ala, google and install it XD, may be in repos too not sure
[03:24] <k0ala> wildbat, got it
[03:24] <k0ala> wildbat, guess have to restart to make it functional
[03:24] <John47> pepee: ok, I appreciate it thanks.  That would be foolish for lucid to be incompatible with win7....
[03:24] <hiexpo> backtothe oledrawing board
[03:24] <pepee> John47, yep, but...who knows
[03:25] <k0ala> brb restarting
[03:25] <sloopy> any ideas?
[03:25] <dark-knight> ahhh so my logitech c500 is only partial recognized by the uvc driver. anyone know any way to get it fully to work?
[03:25] <robert__> can i install gtk themes in xfce?
[03:26] <pepee> sloopy, use mplayer/vlc
[03:26] <nhasian> anyone know how to properly align an SSD drive with linux?
[03:26] <sloopy> pepee, a) how do i get sound in vlc, and b) how do i change channels in vlc?
[03:26] <The-Moon> hehe sigh, spent all day trying to get ubuntu to work still no luck :(
[03:27] <pepee> sloopy, ahh. don't know how to see TV in vlc
[03:27] <pepee> sloopy, man vlc ?
[03:27] <dark-knight> the-moon what are you experiencing?
[03:27] <robert__> can i install gtk themes in xfce?
[03:27] <pepee> heh, very poor manual...
[03:27] <xangua> robert__: yes
[03:27] <The-Moon> well i had a successful install and then when i start up again, it just goes to a black screen :\
[03:27] <Kurzweil> Anyone know if there is a IRC specific to Ubuntu on a Mac?
[03:27] <robert__> xangua, how? and will it slow it down?
[03:28] <The-Moon> i guess i will try installing again
[03:28] <dark-knight> the-moon have you tried reinstalling again?
[03:28] <dark-knight> maybe something just went corrupt
[03:28] <pepee> The-Moon, it will be the same...
[03:28] <The-Moon> thats what im about to do hehe. ubuntu loaded up and installed perfectly fine
[03:28] <pepee> The-Moon, try editting the kernel command line from grub
[03:29] <EvanDotPro> can someone tell me if in ubuntu, when you plug an NTFS usb drive in and it auto-mounts, what umask is used? i'm on fedora and a recent update just changed the umask from 000 to 077 and no one seems to be able to tell me why or how to fix it, including google, so i'm curious how ubuntu does it.
[03:29] <pepee> The-Moon, do you know how to do it?
[03:29] <The-Moon> im still new to linux, i have used it before and had no problems
[03:29] <The-Moon> no i do not
[03:29] <jsec> Kurzweil, there used to be an #ubuntu-mactel chan, but I don't think anyone ever used it...
[03:29] <The-Moon> if you could help that would be much appriciated
[03:29] <xangua> robert__: donload them from http://gnome-look.org/ or http://xfce-look.org/ and install them with your appearence manager
[03:29] <Kurzweil> Alright. Thanks
[03:29] <The-Moon> if this storm dont cut my power....
[03:29] <pepee> The-Moon, what OS are you installing? ubuntu karmic?
[03:29] <xangua> for more xfce help of how to try #xubuntu robert__
[03:29] <The-Moon> ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[03:30] <pepee> The-Moon, try lucid beta
[03:30] <pepee> err lucid RC
[03:30] <robert__> xangua, i did. whats wrong with help here?
[03:30] <The-Moon> can you send me a link too it? is that still ubuntu?
[03:30] <pepee> yep, wait
[03:30] <The-Moon> sure
[03:30] <rww> !lucid | The-Moon
[03:31] <The-Moon> its not stable :|
[03:31] <pepee> The-Moon, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004overview
[03:31] <The-Moon> i think ill stick with messing around with this cd for now, but i will keep a eye on that pepee
[03:31] <pepee> The-Moon, it is
[03:33] <The-Moon> okay, if 9.10 dont work out for me i will give it a try
[03:35] <Flare-Laptop> What should I do about this?: http://paste.ubuntu.com/422515/
[03:35] <millertimek1a2m3> hey, how can i find out what driver i'm using?
[03:35] <millertimek1a2m3> like if I'm using a certain driver?
[03:35] <Flare-Laptop> millertimek1a2m3: lsmod
[03:36] <n2diy> how can I copy a directory recursively, with grsync, gftp?
[03:36] <Lostinspace_46> Is there a way to update or repair my bash shell, and if so would this return my lost "rm" command?  I enter "daniel@my-pos:~$ rm examples" and the terminal returns "remove: command not found" Which seems a bit misleading.
[03:38] <unop> Lostinspace_46,  what does command return?   type -a rm
[03:38] <n2diy> Lostinspace_46: what happens if you just type "rm"?
[03:38] <unop> Lostinspace_46, "type" being a command itself
[03:38] <Lostinspace_46> I mean, of course the remove command is not found..there isn't one
[03:39] <Lostinspace_46> let me see
[03:39] <nsadmin> Lostinspace_46: are you sure your $PATH is good? how do you know rm is missing?
[03:40] <pepee> which rm, whereis rm
[03:41] <pepee> Lostinspace_46, try these commands: which rm; whereis rm
[03:42] <Lostinspace_46> unop daniel@my-pos:~$ type -a rm returns   rm is aliased to `remove' on one line and  rm is /bin/rm on the next
[03:42] <unop> Lostinspace_46, there's your problem - bad alias
[03:42] <unop> Lostinspace_46,  unalias rm
[03:42] <greezmunkey> Lostinspace_46: type: echo $PATH and see if /bin is there.
[03:43] <unop> greezmunkey, that's not his problem - it's a bad alias
[03:43] <Lostinspace_46> Well that would explain the strange error msg'
[03:43] <greezmunkey> unop: agreed
[03:43] <pat5star> and check ~/.bash_aliases to see if that line is entered there so it doesn't reappear on the next boot
[03:45] <unop> Lostinspace_46, you'll need to ensure that this alias is removed/corrected in your bash startup files (like pat5star said) - although the alias could be defined in any of your ~/.bash* files
[03:47] <Lostinspace_46> unop That fixed it. I wonder why that just happened?  I have been using the alias   "alias srr='sudo rm -R'" for months.
[03:48] <m4lt> is 10.04 the best to go with for my desktop, I got old cd of ubuntu and was just wondering if this was stable so far
[03:49] <Lostinspace_46> unop Gonna re-boot. BRB, and thanks!
[03:49] <mIrKaT> can i used pxe boot to boot into the ubuntu cloud ?
[03:49] <xangua> !lucid > m4lt
[03:50] <mIrKaT> can i use pxe boot to boot into the ubuntu cloud ?
[03:51] <Coded1> got a newb question, how do i stop network manager from managing an interface? i remember something about /etc/network/interfaces but cant remember what to input into the file
[03:52] <pat5star> Coded1: I believe you just remove the 'auto' keyword from the stanza, or comment it all out
[03:52] <Coded1> no configuration of any kind (dhcp or static)
[03:52] <Coded1> pat5star thanks i think thats it
[03:52] <pat5star> Coded1: yw
[03:53] <greezmunkey> Coded1: no, if you *add* an interface description there, nm will not manage it.
[03:54] <Coded1> greezmunkey ty
[03:55] <greezmunkey> Coded1: here's an example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/422520/
[03:55] <kathryn_> Hi, I keep getting a "wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32" error loading a plugin for xchat, I think it's because it's 64 bit and the plugin is 32 bit - is this correct or are there other causes?
[03:56] <luis_> hello all
[03:56] <techhelper1> brb
[03:57] <pepee> kathryn_, yep, that is the problem
[03:57] <Guest89878> hi i have a ps3 and xubuntu how well do you think something like mythtv would work
[03:58] <kathryn_> pepee: thanks
[03:58] <b0w> how can i see all users connected to my SFTP??
[03:58] <pepee> np
[03:59] <xangua> Guest89878: for xfce help try #xubuntu; you still haven't updated your ps3¿
[03:59] <pepee> Guest89878, just try it...
[04:00] <LinkinX64> hello!
[04:01] <juken> I'm having an issue getting my netgear wnda3100 working with the ar9170 driver. Anyone have any experience with getting this usb adapter working?
[04:03] <chilli0> Hi, I had a look on winehq but It confused me lol. What version of ms office works best on wine?
[04:03] <chilli0> I need word and excell
[04:03] <scunizi> chilli0: what's in those two that isn't in open office?
[04:04] <chilli0> I do use it. But it's just not working. I'm trying to do box plots on it and they don't show up.
[04:04] <pat5star> clippy?
[04:04] <pepee> juken, IIRC there's no support for these at this moment
[04:04] <chilli0> And copying and pasting from spredsheet to work doesn't show the tables. it puts them in like images.
[04:04] <ttmontoya> has anyone been able to install VirtualBox Properly this error comes up every time I try to start the program: Error in /home/ttmontoya/.VirtualBox/VirtualBox.xml (line 3) -- Cannot handle settings version '1.2-linux'.
[04:04] <scunizi> chilli0: have you looked for help with that on #openoffice.org or parused their docs on their site?
[04:05] <scunizi> ttmontoya: did you install build-essential?
[04:05] <chilli0> No. Either way my math teacher said we need to use it for a plugin that we need next term.
[04:05] <ttmontoya> I think I did let me check
[04:06] <moomoo> anybody know how to successfully setup oidentd or xauth ??
[04:06] <scunizi> chilli0: k.. well on winehq most likely they mention office 2000, 2003  .. the latest may not run well yet.
[04:06] <chilli0> k tanks.
[04:06] <Suit_Of_Sables> can anyone suggest a good linux program for organizing and browsing files by meta data?
[04:06] <ttmontoya> yes I have the newest version
[04:07] <scunizi> ttmontoya: did you download vbox from their site or are you tring ot install from the repo's?
[04:07] <pepee> juken, ohh, sorry, nvm
[04:07] <ttmontoya> from repo
[04:07] <Lostinspace_46> Well...DUH!!  I have no idea what I was thinking when I aliased "rm" to "remove"  Let's see.. a year of chemo?.. Zoloft?...Ambian? nah, couldn't be any of that.  Any way, it's fixed, and Kudos to unop.
[04:07] <Suit_Of_Sables> also, I have two silly questions: Is the beta not available to everyone? and is BitchX still around? I couldn't find a recent source code.
[04:07] <xangua> chilli0: you can also try lotus office or softmaker office
[04:07] <ttmontoya> tru synaptics
[04:08] <scunizi> ttmontoya: so it installed but when you start the program that error you mentioned shows up?
[04:08] <juken> pepee: you found a way?
[04:08] <Flannel> Suit_Of_Sables: BitchX is unmaintained (and not in the repositories because of it).  And the beta has become an RC, and yes, they're open to everyone.
[04:08] <Out_Cold> Suit_Of_Sables: bitchx is an abondoned project
[04:08] <ttmontoya> yes it dont even open
[04:08] <pepee> juken, http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ar9170
[04:08] <pepee> juken, try comàt-wireless
[04:08] <juken> pepee: I know, I've been trying that for a couple hours =/
[04:09] <Suit_Of_Sables> what irc client would you guys suggest? Epic? I am using the gnome irc right now
[04:09] <pepee> juken, ahh
[04:09] <juken> Suit_Of_Sables: irssi :)
[04:09] <Out_Cold> Suit_Of_Sables: irssi
[04:09] <Out_Cold> Suit_Of_Sables: for a gui version, xchat
[04:09] <pepee> did you do a reboot after installing the driver?
[04:09] <juken> pepee: yea
[04:10] <scunizi> ttmontoya: most likely something happened on install.. tell synaptic to reinstall and try again.. if the same error comes up you might check on #vbox for a more detailed answer.. personally I use the version from their site.
[04:10] <juken> pepee: I see the driver installed with lsmod, but still not showing a wireless interface
[04:10] <Out_Cold> nothing beats a screen irssi, finch, ssh session.
[04:10] <pepee> juken, well, compat-wireless never worked for me lol
[04:10] <juken> :P
[04:10] <ttmontoya> ok Thanks
[04:10] <nsadmin> installing a driver generally does not require a reboot
[04:10] <nsadmin> that's windows/microsoft thinking
[04:10] <gogeta> pepee: better to use the version from the site if i rember the one in the repos had a bug making it not work
[04:10] <pepee> but i'm not using that adapter
[04:11] <pepee> gogeta, in fact, I dl it from the site...
[04:11] <Guest27659> I set my xorg.conf file to mode 1280x1024 and restarted X, but the screen resize & rotate manager only alows me to go up to 1024x768  what other file might hold the display config?
[04:11] <k0ala> pepee, i did the memtest
[04:11] <k0ala> pepee, no errors
[04:11] <gogeta> Out_Cold: no knothing beat a screen in framebuffer mode playing a video in bash
[04:11] <pepee> anyway, now I'm using wireless-backports
[04:12] <pepee> k0ala, try again, a couple hours
[04:12] <Out_Cold> gogeta: i've used mplayer but still kind of X.. never straight bash
[04:12] <juken> nsadmin: certainly not, I ran make unload, the modprobe ar9170, but still the interface isn't here =/
[04:12] <pepee> * wireless-backports (in lucid)
[04:12] <gogeta> Out_Cold: heh
[04:13] <Out_Cold> gogeta: 100 solutions to 1 problem ;)
[04:13] <robertzaccour> how do i reset the xfce panel?
[04:13] <pepee> k0ala, also, test the filesystem from the live cd
[04:13] <pepee> doh
[04:13] <chelz> Is there any place that outlines the end of support for a version of Ubuntu? As in if updates how long updates still be downloadable, even if no new updates are put out.
[04:13] <gogeta> Out_Cold: yea i wowed a server user he had no vlue bash was that powerfull
[04:13] <gogeta> idea
[04:14] <j3rg> hey anyone knows about a good IDE for Php?
[04:14] <Suit_Of_Sables> i am new to ubuntu as well as linux so any app suggestions would be great. command line or gui. any browsers not quite as obese as firefox?
[04:14] <Out_Cold> Suit_Of_Sables: elinks ;)
[04:14] <psycho_oreos> Suit_Of_Sables, midori
[04:14] <pepee> links2 :D
[04:14] <nsadmin> depends on what you require
[04:15] <nsadmin> if you don't require anything, you can use any browser
[04:15] <Out_Cold> Suit_Of_Sables: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsers
[04:15] <moomoo> Suit of Sables.. try google chrome instead of firefox
[04:16] <scunizi> Suit_Of_Sables: cli brower w3m.. it's already installed. lynx, elink etc. :)  for the gui arora (I think) .. open synaptic and search for browser ..
[04:16] <pepee> Suit_Of_Sables, old/slow machine?
[04:16] <kyubutsu> kazehakase is both light and fast too
[04:16] <Don_jr> I have set my display mode in xorg.conf and restarted x, but the display once I log back in is still the same, what other file might be controlling the display mode?
[04:16] <chelz> Suit_Of_Sables: what did you use before?
[04:16] <Suit_Of_Sables> oh I had chrome in OSX and liked it a lot. there is a linux version? I am kind of a tab whore when I browse.
[04:17] <psycho_oreos> !chrome
[04:17] <pepee> opera...
[04:17] <psycho_oreos> !chromium
[04:17] <chelz> Suit_Of_Sables: if you do a quick search on google you'll see there's a linux version of chrome
[04:17] <pepee> is the best browser :)
[04:17] <xangua> Suit_Of_Sables: chromium will be incluided in the lucid repositories
[04:17] <juken> Suit_Of_Sables: www.google.com/chrome
[04:17] <chelz> daily isn't good, beta is better, and the one from google is the best for average people i'd say
[04:17] <xangua> psycho_oreos: is not better to get chromium from teh beta, noot the daily, PPA ¿¿
[04:18] <kyubutsu> "daily isnt good" is your opinion..
[04:18] <psycho_oreos> xangua, that made no sense
[04:18] <scunizi> daily builds can break frequently.. flash espicially
[04:18] <chelz> kyubutsu: for an average user that would otherwise use the firefox included with ubuntu? we're talking stable here. don't be silly.
[04:18] <xangua> psycho_oreos: ¿¿
[04:18] <crucialhoax> I need help configuring the `Grid` plugin for Compiz to emulate the Win 7 snap feature.
[04:19] <bastid_raZor> !compiz | crucialhoax
[04:19] <psycho_oreos> xangua, it means I didn't understand what you are trying to say
[04:19] <Don_jr> anyone able to help with my xorg problem?
[04:19] <kyubutsu> chelz: you're talking about using betas .. how stable you really want to be
[04:20] <pepee> Don_jr, use xrandr
[04:20] <Don_jr> does xfce use xorg?  I"m a bit new myself, maybe there's another file I need to alter?
[04:20] <Don_jr> xrandr won't make it permanant will it? pepee?
[04:20] <pepee> Don_jr, btw xorg.conf is not needed
[04:20] <Don_jr> it will revert when I restart?
[04:20] <Cylon> nick Cylon_down
[04:20] <chelz> kyubutsu: as stable as possible. on the stable scale, daily is much worse than either the beta ppa or the chrome release from google.
[04:20] <Don_jr> oh....that's new by me, sorry
[04:20] <Cylon> oops
[04:20] <pepee> Don_jr, nope, is not permanent
[04:21] <Don_jr> if xorg.conf isn't needed now, then how do I set up my display properly and permanantly?
[04:21] <scunizi> Don_jr: what graphics card do you have?
[04:21] <pepee> Don_jr, but you can add a line in your ~./.bashrc
[04:21] <soreau> crucialhoax: With compiz 0.8, you can only use keyboard bindings with grid. For a quick hack, try this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/11/aero-snap-ubuntu-linux.html
[04:21] <Don_jr> scunizi it's not the card that's the problem, it's the monitor, I have the proper nvidia drivers already and with my other monitor, things work perfect
[04:22] <pepee> Don_jr, don't know, that's what I've tried to do LOL
[04:22] <Don_jr> soon as I plug in this LCD it slips back
[04:22] <crucialhoax> soreau: that tut has a glitch in it. It will snap even if the mouse goes into the predefined areas. quite annoying.
[04:23] <ohodi> is there any realtime scanning AV for ubuntu that scans all files you download from the net
[04:23] <scunizi> Don_jr: other monitor?  run sudo nvidia-settings to set the monitor and there will be an option to save to xorg.conf.. then it will be perminent
[04:23] <ace2> I installed Beta 2 and updated today with 400 or so updates.Am i running the RC now?.How can i check it?
[04:23] <soreau> crucialhoax: In compiz/grid 0.9 it is implemented
[04:23] <xangua> ace2: yes you are; for lucid go to #ubuntu+1
[04:23] <kyubutsu> !av > ohodi
[04:23] <pepee> ohodi, clam av?
[04:24] <Don_jr> scunizi the monitor isn't recognized I have to manually add in refresh rates
[04:24] <ohodi> pepee, clam does that?
[04:24] <ace2> Thanks
[04:24] <pepee> ohodi, I suppose, but I really don't know
[04:24] <chelz> ohodi: you might have to setup something special, but you can with inotify watching programs
[04:24] <crucialhoax> soreau: Ok, how do I know which version I have installed lol
[04:24] <crucialhoax> soreau: synaptic?
[04:24] <ohodi> chelz, what?
[04:25] <scunizi> Don_jr: ah.. ok.. 2 ways to do that .. one in xorg.conf (which will override xrandr).. or with xrandr (without options in xorg.conf)
[04:25] <soreau> crucialhoax: You have 0.8.x, probably 0.8.4. Try compiz --version
[04:25] <chelz> ohodi: inotify is a way to trigger something when files change
[04:25] <scunizi> !xrandr | Don_jr
[04:25] <chelz> ohodi: there are linux version of some proprietary AV suites, like AVG for one
[04:25] <scunizi> Don_jr: it's not just for dual screens
[04:25] <soreau> crucialhoax: and compiz-0.9 isn't released yet, also it's a development version
[04:25] <Don_jr> I'm not trying to run dual screens, but I am reading up on xrandr now
[04:25] <crucialhoax> soreau: 0.8.4, correct.
[04:25] <ohodi> chelz, thanks
[04:25] <crucialhoax> soreau: No big deal, I will wait :) thank you.
[04:26] <Avasz> how big is ubuntu repo?
[04:26] <Avasz> big means its size.
[04:27] <scunizi> Avasz: huge.. 40,000 packages apx
[04:27] <pepee> a couple hundred gigas?
[04:27] <chelz> Avasz: about 30 gigabytes
[04:27] <pepee> a tera?
[04:27] <Avasz> couple hundred gigs...
[04:27] <chelz> eh no
[04:27] <Avasz> who is right?
[04:27] <chelz> per distro it's around 28GiB
[04:27] <pure_hate> Its like 36 gigs
[04:27] <chelz> erm release rather
[04:27] <Avasz> oh..
[04:27] <Don_jr> even xrandr shows the max it'll let me do is 1024x768
[04:27] <Avasz> ok
[04:27] <pepee> ahh
[04:28] <pepee> well, I'm gonna make my own repo hehe
[04:28] <chelz> you can buy a copy of the ubuntu repos on 6 DVDs. which means 28.2 GiB max
[04:28] <scunizi> Don_jr: then what you have to do is add the rez you need to xrandr's files.. using xrandr commands.
[04:28] <chelz> i have no idea where other people are getting their info
[04:28] <Avasz> 6 dvdx
[04:28] <Avasz> so what do i do if i new softwares are updated?
[04:28] <pure_hate> chelz, we mirror it so thats where I get  my info
[04:28] <aalares> hi
[04:28] <Don_jr> scunizi alright, use to have to do that with xorg.conf man linux has changed over the last year lol
[04:28] <Avasz> how do i get them updated in my server?
[04:28] <skaalid> question, how can i erase what has been installed on my hard drive?
[04:28] <pepee> Avasz, sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:28] <pepee> xD
[04:29] <Avasz> will it upgrade the repos in server?
[04:29] <amstan> hey guys, anyone having issue with kernel freezes on fast data transfer speeds(over 10MB/s)
[04:29] <scunizi> Don_jr: hugely with video settings.
[04:29] <pepee> nah, you have to build a mirror
[04:29] <Avasz> oh..
[04:29] <bastid_raZor> skaalid: format the partition?
[04:29] <chelz> pure_hate: interesting. i wonder if that figure includes ISOs along with say karmic updates
[04:29] <amstan> i just installed a gigabit network card in a server of mine, and the server crashes once i get over 50MB/s for over 10 seconds
[04:29] <chelz> Avasz: look into apt-mirror to make your own mirror of repos
[04:29] <Don_jr> scunizi alright, more to learn again, I"m digging for how to add the refresh rates and resolutions into xrandr now
[04:29] <Don_jr> trying to find them to read at least lol
[04:29] <chelz> Avasz: http://popey.com/blog/2006/10/24/Creating_an_Ubuntu_repository_mirror_with_apt-mirror/
[04:30] <pepee> Avasz, and rsync' it
[04:30] <chelz> Avasz: http://www.google.com/search?q=mirror+ubuntu+repos
[04:30] <pure_hate> chelz, we mirror the 8.10 repo only so I cant say for any others although the 36 gigs also includes the backtrack packages so 28 sounds about right
[04:30] <aalares> hi
[04:30] <Avasz> ok.. tks
[04:30] <chelz> ohodi: clamav works for almost all uses since there aren't really viruses targeting linux. usually linux machines do scanning email like stuff for Windows machines
[04:30] <aalares> hi
[04:31] <ohodi> chelz, thats a flat out lie
[04:31] <chelz> pure_hate: oh huh, why 8.10 might i ask? why not an LTS?
[04:31] <pure_hate> chelz, At the time thats what worked best for us
[04:31] <ohodi> or... i mean that's not true
[04:31] <ohodi> you've been misinformed
[04:31] <chelz> ohodi: what sources do you go by?
[04:32] <bastid_raZor> w 10
[04:32] <ohodi> chelz, experience
[04:32] <pepee> chelz, ask pure_hate ;)
[04:32] <bastid_raZor> skaalid: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[04:32] <kyubutsu> take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:32] <kyubutsu> i feel like reading support questions here
[04:33] <chelz> pure_hate: are you upgrading before the EOL on the 29th? or after?
[04:33] <aalares> hi
[04:33] <scunizi> Don_jr: check this one out.. http://www.linuxreaders.com/tag/xrandr/
[04:33] <pepee> hi
[04:33] <Don_jr> thanks
[04:33] <pure_hate> chelz, I work on the backtrack distro, we only recently adopted ubuntu as a base. We will be using 10.4 next since it will be a lts
[04:33] <aalares> hi
[04:34] <chelz> pure_hate: ahh, i knew your nick seemed familiar. alright.
[04:34] <pepee> !hi | aalares
[04:35] <aalares> you speek Spanish
[04:35] <pepee> aalares, si
[04:35] <pepee> anda a #ubuntu-es
[04:35] <pepee> /join #ubuntu-es
[04:35] <pure_hate> chelz, This channel is good for the ocasional tip or trick related to ubuntu specificly so I hang out here a little
[04:35] <aalares> ha okey
[04:36] <IdleOne> pure_hate: may I message you?
[04:36] <aalares> tengo problemas para conectar un modem huawei e1786
[04:36] <xangua> !es > aalares
[04:36] <pure_hate> IdleOne, ok
[04:36] <pepee> aalares, insisto, anda a #ubuntu-es
[04:36] <skaalid> thanks for your help bastid_raZor
[04:36] <bastid_raZor> skaalid: good luck
[04:36] <haaay> hola
[04:37] <pepee> !es | haaay
[04:37] <haaay>  tengo el siguiente error trabajando con jsp
[04:37] <lv_> hi is there a way to encrypt a file for a person using their ssh public key like there is with pgp or gpg?
[04:37] <aalares> okey gracias pepee
[04:37] <haaay> ""cannot be resolved to a type
[04:38] <pepee> aalares, de nada. buena suerte
[04:38] <haaay> "cannot be resolved to a type"
[04:38] <kip> @lv: your google-fu is weak
[04:38] <haaay> este es el error que me sale
[04:38] <haaay> help me
[04:38] <pepee> !es > haaay
[04:38] <chelz> hayanbom: /join #ubuntu-es
[04:38] <lv_> kip lol
[04:38] <dabaR> !empathy
[04:39] <pepee> !bot
[04:39] <Kamilion> Tried a bunch of google searches, but I can't figure out how to force a package from a external repo to be installed.
[04:39] <kip> I got that nickname at school, apparently i look like kip kinkle
[04:39] <scunizi> Kamilion: what's the program?
[04:39] <pure_hate> Kamilion, you mean other than by adding the sources to apt?
[04:39] <haaay> necesito ayuda con ice
[04:39] <chelz> er
[04:40] <pepee> Kamilion, download and install it?
[04:40] <haaay> zeroc ice
[04:40] <chelz> haaay: /join #ubuntu-es
[04:40] <Kamilion> Trying to get php5-fpm installed using the dotdeb repo, but I get this:   php5-suhosin: Depends: php5-common (= 5.3.2-0.dotdeb.2) but 5.3.2-1ubuntu4 is to be installed
[04:40] <IdleOne> !es | haaay
[04:40] <xangua> ubottu: tell haaay about es
[04:40] <haaay> para trabajar con jsp
[04:40] <kyubutsu> haaay cant read bot messages
[04:40] <bastid_raZor> skaalid: what are you doing?
[04:40] <chelz> yeah really, this guy is not good at following directions
[04:40] <pure_hate> Kamilion, youll need to get repos that satisfy the depneds as well
[04:40] <pepee> kyubutsu, haaay can't read lol
[04:41] <Kamilion> pure_hate: It's trying to take the ubuntu php5-common over the dotdeb php5-common.
[04:41] <haaay> hola compañeros
[04:41] <kyubutsu> you never know.. maybe he got the bot on /ignore
[04:41] <chelz> pure_hate: so is the recommended usage scenario to use backtrack as a liveusb rather than a livedvd so updates can be installed permanently?
[04:41] <haaay> necesito ayuda para trabajar con ice
[04:41] <pepee> haaay, hola
[04:41] <Kamilion> I can't figure out how to ask apt to use the dotdeb package.
[04:41] <pepee> haaay, me lees?
[04:41] <haaay> si
[04:41] <skaalid> i was going to ask for a little more advice sorry, i will read on.
[04:41] <haaay> pepee
[04:42] <pepee> haaay, hace esto: escribe: /join #ubuntu-es
[04:42] <pepee> luego apreta enter
[04:42] <Kamilion> So, how do I ask apt to install a package from a specific repo?
[04:42] <xangua> Kamilion: what do you want to install¿
[04:43] <Majora2> IdleOne : Unfortunately I tried what we talked about and even tried replacing other seemingly relevant packages with those used in Jaunty, but it didn't work
[04:43] <Kamilion> xangua: php5-common from dotdeb, but it wants to install php5-common from ubuntu cause it's slightly newer.
[04:43] <scunizi> Kamilion: did you download the .deb package?  if so you might need to sudo chmod +x <package name>  then just double click it and the package manager will take over from there.
[04:43] <pepee> Kamilion, download the package and its dependencies from the repo
[04:43] <Kamilion> Nope, just following the instructions -- said to add the repo and apt-get.
[04:44] <pepee> and use dpkg -i *.deb
[04:44] <IdleOne> Majora2: :( sorry
[04:44] <Kamilion> okay, so I gotta dpkg -i it?
[04:44] <xangua> Kamilion: what's the diference between those two¿
[04:44] <pepee> Kamilion, don't add external repos, is not a good thing...
[04:44] <Majora2> IdleOne: It's okay. Thanks a bunch for trying to help though, I appreciate it :).
[04:44] <IdleOne> Majora2: report a bug on launchpad.net or add yourself to it as affected if there is one already
[04:44] <pure_hate> Kamilion, apt-get install package=version
[04:44] <scunizi> Kamilion: why do you want an older version..? you have something that depends on it? if not then get the one from ubuntu repo
[04:44] <Kamilion> xangua: dotdeb's has php5-fpm support.
[04:44] <IdleOne> pepee: thank you :)
[04:45] <Kamilion> ubuntu's doesn't have php5-fpm fastcgi support for nginx.
[04:45] <pepee> IdleOne, ?
[04:45] <Kamilion> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/397721
[04:45] <IdleOne> pepee: for helping haaay
[04:45] <pepee> ahh ok hehee
[04:46] <Kamilion> scunizi: They're both the same version -- but there's some patches missing or disabled in the ubuntu build. Mainly php5-fpm -- spawn-fcgi's been crashing on me.
[04:46] <ckwalsh> Kamilion, You can use php over fastcgi without any extra packages besides php-cgi
[04:46] <pure_hate> Kamilion, Install the version you want and then edit /etc/apt/preferences to keep that version from being updated
[04:46] <ckwalsh> ah, if spawn-fcgi has been crashing though
[04:47] <Kamilion> ckwalsh: spawn-fcgi breaks when nginx has mutiple workers.
[04:47] <millertimek1a2m3> if anyone knows who i am, or if you've ever seen the millertimek1a2m3 id before, speak up
[04:47] <scunizi> Kamilion: you can download the source from ubuntu's repo and compile it with the xtras you need.. (easy for me to say / but not do)
[04:47] <ckwalsh> I have a 9.0.4 server with fastcgi and multiple workers that seems to do fine
[04:47] <pepee> Kamilion, try this: sudo apt-get install <package>=<version>
[04:48] <Kamilion> scunizi: I know -- the dotdeb ubuntu package is supposed to be just that.
[04:48] <axisys> !tracker
[04:48] <scunizi> Kamilion: did you download their deb? try double clicking it
[04:48] <millertimek1a2m3> !whois millertimek1a2m3
[04:48] <ckwalsh> Grr. 9.04, not 9.0.4
[04:49] <Kamilion> this is a server, I'm stuck with aptitude and apt-get.
[04:49] <koshari> my bluetooth icon is missing from notification area, i restarted bluetooth and checked the always shol in bt prefs but its still not there
[04:49] <Kamilion> okay, then I'll go play with curl and dpkg.
[04:49] <ckwalsh> Could it actually be a bug with nginx?
[04:49] <scunizi> Kamilion: dpkg -i <package name>
[04:49] <scunizi> Kamilion: sudo dpkg -i <package name>
[04:49] <pepee> Kamilion, no wget?
[04:50] <Kamilion> ckwalsh: It's not a bug in nginx, it's a flaw in spawn-fcgi, not being able to handle multiple workers trying to call it. php5-fpm fixes this and is in php-core, but will not be enabled for ubuntu until php 5.4.
[04:50] <pure_hate> Kamilion, make sure you pin it like I told you or it will get updated
[04:51] <scunizi> Kamilion: w3m, elinks, elink2 all cli browsers.. find the link with that and use wget to download .. then sudo dpkg -i <package name>
[04:51] <pepee> pure_hate, that can be made in aptitude, too
[04:51] <chelz> Kamilion: you can pin something easily in synaptic by finding it and setting Lock on it in one of the upper left menus
[04:51] <Kamilion> Sorry, I don't keep wget installed on my servers. Already have the curl libs so I'll use that.
[04:51] <Kamilion> Chelz: How do I use synaptic on a headless rackspace server with 256MB of ram? :)
[04:52] <pepee> by searching for the package, and pressing "="
[04:52] <pure_hate> See I just learned you can pin in synaptic :-)
[04:52] <chelz> Kamilion: oh.. heh. well x forwarding, and i'm sure you could use sshfs and symlinks to get a local synaptic to interact with your apt on it, but yeah /etc/preferences would be better. i'm sure there's a way to do it in aptitude though but i have no idea how
[04:52] <Kamilion> I don't wanna go install freenx just to use synaptic :(
[04:52] <GSF1200S> does anyone know if its possible to restart alsa in 10.04
[04:53] <scunizi> Kamilion: you don't .. but aptitude you can. of course you mentioned that I believe..
[04:53] <pure_hate> then you can edit /etc/apt/prferences
[04:53] <xangua> !lucid > GSF1200S
[04:54] <Kamilion> chelz: The problem with x-over-ssh: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/cp3MGJdQ
[04:54] <pure_hate> Kamilion, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html   Section 3.10
[04:54] <pepee> Kamilion, you don't need the X...
[04:54] <pepee> man aptitude
[04:55] <Kamilion> Aptitude sucks to deal with from putty.
[04:55] <Kamilion> mouseclicks freak it out.
[04:55] <pepee> ahh hehe
[04:55] <chelz> Kamilion: eh yeah depending on the server 182MB might be heavy
[04:55] <pepee> you don't need the mouse
[04:55] <scunizi> Kamilion: you don't have a linux box outside of the servers?
[04:55] <chelz> sounds like a misconfiguration on putty's part
[04:56] <Kamilion> I don't need aptitude either if it gets in the way. apt-get works fine.
[04:56] <chelz> Kamilion: you could do andLinux / coLinux if you're on Windows. or use Virtualbox with ubuntu on either Windows on Mac OS X
[04:56] <Kamilion> scunizi: I do. But I'm at home on my win7 box.
[04:56] <Kamilion> Colinux doesn't like win7.
[04:56] <Kamilion> And this is a single core without hardware virt, so virtualbox is out.
[04:56] <wookienz> hi, i would like a certain non-priv user to be allowed to execute a certian program. How do i do that?
[04:56] <pepee> Kamilion, I mean, to hold package versions, you can use aptitude
[04:56] <pure_hate> wookienz, visudo
[04:56] <scunizi> Kamilion: ah.. I see. I use virtualbox in those circumstances
[04:57] <Kamilion> funny you mention colinux -- I used to be a developer for that project.
[04:57] <kip> @Kamilion: Virtualbox runs ubuntu fine in win7
[04:57] <Kamilion> Virtualbox needs hardware virt support.
[04:57] <scunizi> Kamilion: vbox ran fine on my P4 single core that was 4 years old
[04:57] <Kamilion> My 3800+ lacks said support.
[04:57] <Kamilion> scunizi: Older versions of vbox, yes, the ones that still were based on the qemu codebase.
[04:58] <wookienz> pure_hate: thanks
[04:58] <scunizi> Kamilion: didn't realize that.. their site does have older versions available.
[04:58] <kip> Ahh, I only use it for testing comparing different distros
[04:58] <chelz> Kamilion: i've never used colinux but it always seemed like a nifty idea. i've been thinking in the last few weeks about looking into something like it to run distros on other distros like coLinux using the new linux containers LXC
[04:58] <Kamilion> they dropped most support for pure software emulation in vbox 3.x
[04:58] <Kamilion> vmware player works though
[04:59] <scunizi> Kamilion: yea.. I've used that too.
[04:59] <Kamilion> but it's slooooooow.
[04:59] <Kamilion> Anyway. Trying package=version
[04:59] <phoebus> Anyone else have problems with the flash plugin causing random browser freezes?
[05:00] <kip> Im currently using DSL on a 7 year old pentium 4
[05:02] <renegaid_> there is xchat and gnome xchat. what is the difference?
[05:02] <chelz> renegaid_: different interface. i suggest installing both and seeing which you prefer.
[05:02] <xangua> renegaid_: gnome xchat is more 'simple'
[05:02] <scunizi> renegaid_: save headaches.. just use xchat.. leave gnome xchat alone
[05:03] <renegaid_> impressed with the netbook flavor of ubuntu. think i will use it instead
[05:03] <kip> I prefer Damn small linux on a netbook
[05:03] <pepee> and the gnome is ugly
[05:03] <pure_hate> renegaid_, real men use irssi :-)
[05:04] <pepee> ** gnome is ugly
[05:04] <renegaid_> i like it
[05:04] <kip> @pure_hate: indeed, no clutter whatsoever
[05:04] <Lemonjello> here
[05:04] <renegaid_> i like how everything is maximized. never liked ubuntu desktop but the netbook flavor works well
[05:05] <pepee> I like kde
[05:05] <pepee> but I think it will never be stable lol
[05:05] <renegaid_> there is a kde desktop remix?
[05:05] <renegaid_> i find kde to be slow
[05:05] <pepee> no idea
[05:05] <d4rkmt7r> tooheavy
[05:05] <pepee> yeah...
[05:06] <d4rkmt7r> using openbox now
[05:06] <kip> openbox works perfectly on my desktop and my netbook
[05:06] <mawst> In compiling e17
[05:06] <mawst> I'm*
[05:06] <mawst> :P
[05:06] <pure_hate> eww
[05:06] <d4rkmt7r> also checked out fvwm in backtrack4, love it, but a pain to configure
[05:08] <Fiveways> whats the shortcut to leave gnome/X and drop to terminal?