[21:09] <kevbuntu_> so there's probably no way to use both fron and back??
[21:10] <Mr-S_> its either front or back.. both is usually not possible
[21:10] <sgraham> #ubuntu
[21:10] <sgraham> damn it
[21:10] <Mr-S_> its a mainboard thing
[21:11] <kevbuntu_> what if i had a soundcard? could I use the front panel with a sound card??
[21:11] <Mr-S_> the front is usauly used for headphones, so theback will be cut off
[21:12] <kevbuntu_> i see. yeah, i am trying to use the front for my skype headset, but like you said, it's cutting out the back
[21:12] <Mr-S_> with a pci soundcard, the front will doing the same thing if it will work at all
[21:13] <Mr-S_> its due to the wiring of the mainbord. it setup to be used only with the onboard chip
[21:13] <kevbuntu_> so then where do i plug in my skype headset if i am plugging my speakers into the back??
[21:14] <Mr-S_> for this reaon you will find a mic in at the back as well
[21:14] <Mr-S_> that is the thing wit onboard soundcards. pci based soundcard will offer all the need on the back
[21:14] <da> How to install a .gz file
[21:14] <da> How to install a .gz file
[21:15] <Mr-S_> so use the back ports or your sound card / onboard chip
[21:16] <dr_willis> da - You dont.. If its a SOURCE archive.. you compile source...
[21:16] <Mr-S_> .gz file is a *zipped_ file, you will need to un *zip* it and check for an Install text file
[21:16] <da> yes i have unzipped it
[21:16] <dr_willis> !compile
[21:16] <da> what next
[21:16] <carpii> hi all, is there a better archive manager than Ark? It really has some usability issues for me :/
[21:17] <dr_willis> wine winrar.exe
[21:17] <dr_willis> :)
[21:17] <Mr-S_> ark is good. what seems to be the issue
[21:18] <DaSkreech> da: really depends on what is in the archive
[21:18] <Mr-S_> for winrar use goole "winrar linux" install teh rar and unrar files to usr/local/bin and you can use rar files
[21:18] <fehrp> I downloaded kubuntu (intrepid 8.10 with kde 4.1 and knetworkmanager does not connect to wpa encrypted home-lan. with "no encryption" it works but not with wpa
[21:18] <carpii> Mr-S, it always seems to complain about various things, like files already existing etc, but theres no option to overwrite.
[21:19] <fehrp> the setup is fairly evil for new users, they get to see eth0 and ath0 and have no clue what it means, there is no autodetect for what encryption an essid has and so on. To conclude: WTF?
[21:19] <carpii> well theres a global option, but no option on the warning dialog which Id prefer
[21:19] <fehrp> this all worked years before!
[21:19] <DaSkreech> fehrp: Strange I couldn't get mine to work till I turned on WPA
[21:19] <fehrp> DaSkreech: lol
[21:19] <Mr-S_> this means you either alreadu unrared the files to the same dir or you have a corrupted file
[21:20] <Mr-S_> use terminal > cd to dir rar file : tyoe unrar e (rar file name )
[21:20] <carpii> no,l i was given a few updates files to extract over the top of a prevously unzipped archive
[21:20] <da> a flash player setup
[21:20] <da> or is it an easyer way to get it
[21:20] <kevbuntu_> Mr-S: i know there is mic jack in the back, but my headset has two plugs on it, one for mic and one for ear piece. so if i plug it into the back, where do i plug in my regular computer speakers?
[21:20] <carpii> well yeah, i could use unzip or tar etc, but is there any alternative gui archive managers?
[21:20] <fehrp> I found out that this is my bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+bug/278386 and it seems very wide spread
[21:20] <fehrp> any help on that?
[21:20] <Mr-S_> or type unrar to see the options
[21:21] <jmichaelx> umm, could someone tell me which directory checkinstall places a newly created .deb into?
[21:21] <DaSkreech> !flash | da
[21:21] <fehrp> please kubuntu dev team: this is a serious issue
[21:21] <jmichaelx> i have looked in /tmp... but it wasn't there
[21:22] <Mr-S_> kev> you cant. either the head set (mic in + speakers for headphones ) or just mic and sperakers. no alternative
[21:22] <DaSkreech> fehrp: This isn't the Kubuntu devteam
[21:22] <kevbuntu_> ok, that's what i wanted to clarify. thanks for the help, Mr-S
[21:22] <xenol> hello, i just installed kubuntu 8.10 on my lappy, everything works great, but i am having problems with sound, nothing sounds. i got some error about DCOP, any ideas? please help
[21:22] <kevbuntu_> i really do appreciate it
[21:22] <da> !flash | da
[21:22] <Mr-S_> or get your self a soundblaser
[21:24] <kevbuntu_> why would that help?
[21:24] <xenol> hello, i just installed kubuntu 8.10 on my lappy, everything works great, but i am having problems with sound, nothing sounds. i got some error about DCOP, any ideas? please help
[21:24] <da> omg
[21:24] <da> help i have 8.10 and need thelp to install Adobe Flash Player
[21:25] <momesana> xenol, check to see if the the driver is kloaded
[21:25] <momesana> xenol: issue alsamixer in the commandline
[21:25] <Mr-S_> kev: a spundbalster oci card has rear and front speaker output. up can connect front to speakers, and the rear to the headphone + mic in for the mic
[21:25] <fehrp> DaSkreech: where can I reach the devs?
[21:25] <da> help i have 8.10 and need thelp to install Adobe Flash Player
[21:25] <da> help i have 8.10 and need thelp to install Adobe Flash Player
[21:25] <momesana> xenol: if anything is muted, unmute it and increase the volume
[21:25] <Mr-S_> n short terms, no need to unplug the speakers. The rest can be setup in skype
[21:25] <squid0> hey there
[21:26] <squid0> what's the story with bluetooth? it was broken, has it been fixed yet?
[21:26] <xenol> momesana: thx
[21:26] <Mr-S_> with onboard soundcard, either the speakers are connected or the headphones ... :(
[21:26] <momesana> xenol: does it work now?
[21:26] <DaSkreech> !flash > da
[21:26] <kevbuntu_> i see. well, I have a sound card, so I guess I'll give that a try
[21:26] <squid0> !bluetooth
[21:27] <DaSkreech> #kubuntu-devel
[21:27] <Mr-S_> i fyou have a sound card, open a terminal an type sudp alsaconfig
[21:27] <da> hate you boot you only send help for 7.4 and lower i use 8.10
[21:27] <momesana> xenol: instead of alsamixer one can also use the graphical frontends: kmixer etc. but alsamixer is always there so it's a good desktop-environment agnostic fallback
[21:27] <jmichaelx> could someone tell me which directory checkinstall places a newly created .deb into?
[21:27] <Mr-S_> *sudo alsconfig
[21:28] <momesana> jmichaelx: /var/cache/apt/archives
[21:28] <Mr-S_> the system will check for available ( and supported ) pci based sound cards.
[21:28] <DaSkreech> da: Installs the same way
[21:28] <xenol> momesana: i am getting error alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[21:28] <Mr-S_> most likly u=you will need to disable you onboard sound card in the pc bios to use the pci baes soudncard
[21:28] <momesana> xenol: sounds like there is a problem with the driver then
[21:28] <jmichaelx> ty momesana
[21:29] <da> ok
[21:29] <da> tnx
[21:29] <momesana> xenol: what sound card do you use? what does pci -vv | grep multimedia return?
[21:29] <momesana> xenol: try this: http://informatik.uni-bremen.de/~momesana/zoje_salmand.pdf
[21:30] <kevbuntu_> yeah, i figured as much regarding the onboard sound
[21:30] <momesana> oops
[21:30] <momesana> I mean:  lspci -vv | grep -i Audio
[21:30] <xenol> momesana: it works now. thx
[21:31] <momesana> :)
[21:31] <kevbuntu_> so run sudo alsaconfig AFTER i plug in the sound card, hook everything up, and turn my computer back on???
[21:31] <jmichaelx> momesana: i don't really think that is where checkinstall places new .debs.... that just looks like a list of already installed .debs
[21:32] <xenol> tho one things matters me, and no idea how to solve it. it mute multimedia button, raise/lower volume level works, but mute no :/
[21:32] <xenol> momesana: any idea?
[21:32] <momesana> jmichaelx: that is the place where the .debs are downloaded to
[21:32] <jmichaelx> momesana: hmm. well the .deb i just created does not appear to be there
[21:33] <danub> will compiz run on kubuntu?
[21:33] <kevbuntu_> yes, danub
[21:33] <momesana> jmichaelx: I thought that was what you were looking for. If you want to install a package apt first looks into that directory and if the file ain't there it starts to download the file by first placint it into /var/cache/apt/archive/partial and once the download is complete it's moved to /var/cache/apt/archive
[21:33] <danub> where can i find a guide to installing it? i have installed compiz, compiz manager, several plugin packages
[21:33] <squid0> what's the status with bluetooth in kubuntu?
[21:33] <momesana> jmichaelx: oh, you created the debs yourself. well, never done that so I can't tell. :(
[21:34] <DaSkreech> squid0: Check launchpad ?
[21:34] <danub> i opened a terminal and ran compiz, the desktops flickered, icons moved around alittle, but i still only see the same effects kde4.1 was using before
[21:34] <jmichaelx> momesana: ok. i was not downloading a package, i was creating a .deb from source using checkinstall.... and i have forgotten where it puts the newly created .deb
[21:34] <squid0> DaSkreech: what, search and see if there are any bugs open and what their statuses are? is there not a simpler way, like asking someone who knows?
[21:34] <momesana> xenol: well, in alsamixer using m while the focus is on the bar you want to unmute ... it will mute/unmute the channel
[21:35] <xenol> momesana: i know about that, but i want mute button on laptop to work
[21:35] <Novalgina2Fast> hi guys, how i can mount a image mdf or mds in kde?
[21:35] <kevbuntu_> danub: my bad, i didn't realize you were using KDE4.1. i don't know how to set up compiz in KDE4. i'm not even sure if it would work???
[21:35] <momesana> xenol: ah! ok. well, that's maybe not supported. I think it never worked on my fujitsu siemens notebook either
[21:35] <DaSkreech> squid0: You've been asking for a while. I'm guessing that a quick websearch would be about as fast as sitting and waiting and the two can happen in parallel
[21:36] <DaSkreech> danub: compiz --replace
[21:36] <danub> replace what?
[21:36] <momesana> xenol: though it must be easy to implement ... so maybe someone has a workaround.
[21:36] <Mr-S_> danub: make sure you habe installed the correct drivers for you nvidia or ati vga card
[21:36] <kevbuntu_> hahaha
[21:36] <DaSkreech> danub: The current window manager
[21:36] <xenol> momesana: i will look for it, google almigthy
[21:36] <DaSkreech> compiz only works if you have no window manager currently running
[21:36] <kevbuntu_> danub: it's a terminal command
[21:36] <squid0> DaSkreech: I asked once before. I'm looking at google now
[21:37] <danub> Mr-S_: no idea if it has installed the correct ones or not. when i ran compiz, i still see everything so im guessing yeah
[21:37] <momesana> xenol: yep. uncle google is the right person to ask :)
[21:37] <DaSkreech> squid0: Let us know if you find an answer
[21:37] <DaSkreech> danub: you can press alt+F2 -> compiz --replace
[21:37] <kevbuntu_> well guys, I'm turning off my computer to try this soundcard for my audio problem. be back in a bit to report. thanks again Mr-S
[21:37] <HappySmileMan> Can I just ask if Desktop effects are working in KDE4.1.3 for you guys?
[21:37] <danub> yeah i just did that and i am getting unable to open display
[21:38] <HappySmileMan> I'm on Intrepid
[21:38] <Mr-S_> danbun:do you have a nvidia or ati baes card ?
[21:38] <danub> unable to open x display
[21:38] <danub> intel... im using the acer aspire 1 netbook
[21:39] <DaSkreech> HappySmileMan: Works fine here
[21:39] <Mr-S_> ok ... are you able to boot into KDE ?
[21:39] <DaSkreech> dab
[21:39] <DaSkreech> danub: export DISPLAY=:0.0; compiz --replace
[21:39] <danub> yeah, kde is loaded on f7 right now
[21:40] <Mr-S_> open a terminal an type : glxgears
[21:40] <Mr-S_> does anyting happen ?
[21:40] <danub> couldn't popen display 0.0
[21:40] <danub> couldn't popen display :0.0
[21:41] <danub> tried your command DaSkreech and it didn't work either
[21:41] <DaSkreech> danub: Where are you typing this?
[21:41] <danub> no xgl protocol available
[21:41] <danub> f1 screen
[21:41] <jmichaelx> could someone tell me which directory checkinstall places a newly created .deb into?
[21:41] <squid0> DaSkreech and others: here are some links related to the bluetooth status in kubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseNotes#Kubuntu Bluetooth support
[21:41] <Mr-S_> since you are in  KDE ( as you said ) we will need to look at xorg.conf
[21:41] <DaSkreech> danub:
[21:42] <DaSkreech> do them on two lines then
[21:42] <DrX> how do i set permissions on /dir so that new directories created by any user inherit the permissions given to /dir ?
[21:42] <DaSkreech> export DISPLAY=:0.0
[21:42] <DaSkreech> then
[21:42] <squid0> or rather: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseNotes#Kubuntu%20Bluetooth%20support
[21:42] <DaSkreech> compiz --replace
[21:42] <Mr-S_> open a terminal and type sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:42] <squid0> moreover: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/280997
[21:42] <Mr-S_> kate should open a a file called xorg.conf now
[21:42] <danub> unable to open display
[21:42] <DaSkreech> jmichaelx: I would assume the dir that you ran the command in
[21:43] <squid0> and lastly: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6153714
[21:43] <danub> lemme flip over to the kde, open a terminal, and reconnect in here so i can copy/paste things you ask for
[21:43] <danub> brb
[21:44] <DaSkreech> squid0: bluez-gnome
[21:44] <jmichaelx> DaSkreech: well, there is nothing there, even though checkinstall seemed to have run without errors. i had thought that i rememebered in that past that it placed the .deb into another dir... like /tmp or something
[21:45] <HappySmileMan> Hmmm desktop effects only work when I select XRender instead of OpenGL, but I have the proprietary NVidia driver working fine (as in, I can play 3d games no prob)
[21:46] <danub> hey, ill be back in a sec. my kde is messed up now and i cant move any windows so everything is on top of my terminal. im gonna restart and then i can paste stuff whereever you need it pasted to.
[21:46] <squid0> DaSkreech: how does that help me if I'm running kde?
[21:46] <DaSkreech> it gets bluetooth working if you need it
[21:46] <Mr-S_> restart your system and come back
[21:46] <DaSkreech> Danu: you killed you window manager
[21:47] <Danu> ¿?
[21:47] <Danu> what?
[21:52] <DaSkreech> Danu: Sorry was talking to danub and he went offline right before i pressed tab
[21:52] <Danu> umm Ok XD
[21:53] <DaSkreech> squid0: running KDE on a mac mini for example
[21:53] <squid0> k, I'll be back shortly
[21:55] <danub> ok, im back
[21:56] <danub> tried to compiz --replace before i logged into kde and still gave me the no display found error
[21:57] <DaSkreech> danub: It would since you wouldn't have logged in ye
[21:57] <danub> what is the default key combo for the cube? i see that some of the effects i did have been applied
[21:57] <danub> oh
[21:57] <danub> well in that case, lemme try now that i am logged in
[21:57] <DaSkreech> alt+Ctrl +Left
[21:57] <DaSkreech> danub: Open a konsole and type it in
[21:57] <danub> but ill do it in a terminal in the kde session since the f2 screen didn't work
[21:58] <squid0> DaSkreech: ok, I installed it, and restarted, but it doesn't show any bluetooth devices - I have one built in but it doesn't show up on the list...
[21:59] <danub> ok, i have no idea what just happened, but something did.... after i typed it in, my screen flickered, went back and i had to log in again
[21:59] <DaSkreech> It logged you out?
[21:59] <danub> yeah
[22:00] <danub> took me back to splash screen
[22:00] <DaSkreech> ooooohk
[22:00] <danub> i just tried loading up the compiz config manager and it is giving me a dbus error
[22:00] <danub> compiz is not running, dbus plugin cant be used unless compiz is running
[22:00] <HappySmileMan> Anyone using NVidia drivers have trouble getting desktop effects working? Mine only work with XRender (and that's buggy), used to work with OpenGL, and my drivers work fine
[22:01] <kevbuntu_> Mr=S: soundcard fixed the problem. I have my headset plugged in and my speakers and everything is working, THANKS AGAIN!
[22:01] <kevbuntu_> Mr-S*
[22:01] <Mr-S_> afk for a while
[22:02] <momesana> :-<. The kwin effects are far from smooth. It's really inferior to what compiz has to offer. I hope kwin in kde-4.2 and 4.3 will do a little better than that
[22:02] <Mr-S_> kev i think your intel card is not really installed (  for glx ) in xorg.conf.
[22:02] <squid0> DaSkreech: this while when I do hcitool dev it shows the device
[22:03] <danub> how do i enable compiz to run?
[22:03] <Mr-S_> so we need to checj xorg.conf to check on this.
[22:03] <danub> just open a terminal and run compiz?
[22:03] <kevbuntu_> ok
[22:03] <DaSkreech> momesana: look nice for me
[22:03] <kevbuntu_> want me to pull it up in a terminal
[22:03] <kevbuntu_> ??
[22:03] <Mr-S_> the proble, rigtht now is , i have to go to a meeting right now.
[22:03] <kevbuntu_> oh ok
[22:03] <Mr-S_> so can anyone take over please !!!!!!!
[22:04] <kevbuntu_> well, it is working. so it can wait
[22:04] <danub> kevbuntu_: what is the problem?
[22:04] <Mr-S_> little tip : open a console and type glxgears .. does anything happen ?
[22:05] <Mr-S_> i have to attend a bussiness meeting in a moment .... :(
[22:05] <kevbuntu_> no
[22:05] <danub> yes
[22:05] <danub> i see gears spinning
[22:05] <kevbuntu_> my bad... that wasn't for me. lol
[22:06] <kevbuntu_> danub: my problem is actually solved. i think that Mr-S was talking to you.
[22:06] <Mr-S_> tip : http://swik.net/Kubuntu/del.icio.us%2Ftag%2Fkubuntu/Install+compiz+fusion+on+Intel+chip+-+Ubuntu+Forums/cad04
[22:06] <Mr-S_> or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=513879
[22:07] <Mr-S_> I am very sorry really have to go now
[22:07] <SkitleLinux18> kevbuntu_ is now SkitleLinux18
[22:07] <SkitleLinux18> danub, i may be about to help
[22:07] <SkitleLinux18> you do see gears in the terminal?
[22:08] <danub> yeah
[22:08] <SkitleLinux18> ok
[22:08] <danub> brb phone
[22:08] <danub> ok back
[22:08] <SkitleLinux18> and you said you did install graphics drivers, but wasn't sure if they actually installed or now??
[22:08] <danub> screw them this is more important :)
[22:08] <SkitleLinux18> haha!
[22:09] <danub> no i said that i never installed the drivers, but since everything is running, i am assuming they are installed and are the correct ones
[22:09] <danub> if they weren't i dont think i would have seen the gears
[22:09] <danub> but if i actually knew what i was talking about i wouldn't be in here asking how to make it work so yeah... teach me obee
[22:10] <SkitleLinux18> you're probably right about your drivers. but humor me for a minute, =D
[22:10] <danub> not a problem, what do you want me to do
[22:11] <SkitleLinux18> go into your kde menu and navigate to "Hardware Drivers"
[22:11] <SkitleLinux18> see if anything is listed
[22:11] <danub> just my wifi card
[22:11] <SkitleLinux18> ok, i highly doubt your graphics drivers are installed properly
[22:12] <Novalgina2Fast> !mount
[22:12] <Novalgina2Fast> !DiskMounter
[22:13] <danub> this is the output from the lspci
[22:13] <danub> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[22:13] <danub> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[22:13] <danub> i dont know if these are nvidia or ati though
[22:13]  * danub shrugs
[22:13] <SkitleLinux18> ok... stand by
[22:14] <momesana> danub: neither one of them. these are the standard onboard graphics-chipsets from intel. They are very common with new mainboards
[22:14] <sirPengi> those are neither
[22:14] <sirPengi> looks like integrated graphics
[22:14] <danub> ok, so... the drivers should already be installed then correct?
[22:15] <momesana> danub: yep.
[22:15] <danub> especially since im in a kde session right now chatting with you lovely folk
[22:15] <danub> ok, so whats next?
[22:15] <momesana> with newer versions of ubuntu (X.org) simply use Intel as driver in the driver section
[22:15] <bukharin> hello
[22:16] <DaSkreech> !hi
[22:16] <momesana> with earlier versions of X.org you would use i810 or something lke that
[22:16] <bukharin> i was trying to install Knights today...
[22:16] <bukharin> but it depends on kdbase-kio-pluigns...
[22:16] <danub> i dont have a driver section in my xorg.conf file
[22:17] <bukharin> and this is not available for intrepid
[22:17] <danub> just device, screen, monitor
[22:17] <danub> brb, got a dev in here asking me aquestion
[22:17] <bukharin> anyone knows what's going on?
[22:17] <SkitleLinux18> danub: your drivers are not installed. if they were, you would see them in Hardware Drivers. however, linux is still smart enough to use the most basic functions of your card. that is how you are in KDE chatting with me =D
[22:17] <momesana> danub: well, it's probably the default one created with ubuntu. It's all a little wierd to me as a gentoo user who would create a standard xorg file by issuing X -configure and then tweaking that file
[22:18] <SkitleLinux18> danub: this is what I want you to do
[22:18] <SkitleLinux18> ready?
[22:18] <bukharin> i'm affraid his AFK at the moment :)
[22:18] <bukharin> he is*
[22:18] <momesana> SkitleLinux18: are you talking about the grafik card drivers?
[22:19] <SkitleLinux18> yes
[22:19] <SkitleLinux18> i think i found the solution
[22:19] <captainbraille> I have a question, what is the plasmoid thing that is next to the Kmenu and lets me look at all my folders with dolphin?
[22:19] <momesana> they intel one ist most likely installed
[22:19] <momesana> SkitleLinux18: it only needs to be enabled in a proper x.org file
[22:19] <SkitleLinux18> it's not. i found out what he needs
[22:19] <bukharin> if eh has an intel card, xorg-viedo-intel should be installed
[22:19] <danub> ok, back
[22:19] <danub> so whats up
[22:19] <bukharin> but the default Xorg will not use it until you stateit explicitly
[22:19] <bukharin> had a similar problem on a dell inspiron a while back
[22:20] <momesana> bukharin: and I think it is installed by default. let me look at my setup because I need the same driver
[22:20] <alexei> hello, I get gnome network manager started on KDE login, how do I disable that? Any Idea?
[22:21] <danub> ok, im back SkitleLinux18
[22:21] <danub> you said you found the solution to my little problem?
[22:21] <captainbraille> Does anyone know what the plasmoid next to the Kmenu that lets me look at all my folders with dolphin is called?  They were installed when I setup the system
[22:22] <bukharin> captainbrialle: Quick Access?
[22:22] <bukharin> captainbraille: Quick Access?
[22:22] <captainbraille> bukharin: is what with it is?
[22:22] <momesana> anyway, try to create a basic Xorg file by issuing X :1 -configure
[22:22] <momesana> and finetune the file
[22:22] <SkitleLinux18> alright, this is pissing me off! haha danub: some sites are showing that your chipset is nvidia and some are saying it is ati???
[22:22] <danub> lol
[22:23] <SkitleLinux18> can you look your computer up on the manufacturer's website??
[22:23] <bukharin> danub: you don't know the make of your card?
[22:23] <danub> sure, its just an acer aspire 1 though... ill look real quick and get back to you
[22:23] <danub> no idea, its onboard
[22:23] <momesana> danub: if your card is the one you showed us via lspci ... namely intel chipsets then look if xserver-xorg-video-intel or xserver-xorg-video-i810 are installed
[22:23] <SkitleLinux18> ok. check to see what the onboard video is: nv or ati.
[22:24] <azur4> helllo
[22:24] <azur4> im pali
[22:24] <danub> how do i check if those are installed?
[22:24] <momesana> danub: onboard = intel/sis/via and in your case its definetly intel. period/
[22:24] <azur4> do you speak hungarian
[22:24] <SkitleLinux18> that is a really low chipset, danub. it might be that you can't get it to work. some forums are showing it's too low
[22:24] <bukharin> danub: with adept
[22:24] <azur4> ?
[22:24] <momesana> danub: via apt-get
[22:24] <momesana> or synaptic
[22:24] <azur4> do you speak hungarian
[22:24] <azur4> do you speak hungarian
[22:24] <azur4> do you speak hungarian
[22:24] <azur4> do you speak hungarian
[22:24] <azur4> do you speak hungarian
[22:24] <azur4> do you speak hungarian
[22:24] <azur4> do you speak hungarian
[22:24] <azur4> do you speak hungarian
[22:24] <azur4> do you speak hungarian
[22:24] <azur4> do you speak hungarian
[22:24] <azur4> ??????????
[22:25] <bukharin> azur4: no.
[22:25] <azur4> :(
[22:25] <danub> what do i do? apt-cache search "intel driver"; apt-get install?
[22:25] <DaSkreech> !hu
[22:25] <bukharin> azur4: adn stop with the flood
[22:25] <momesana> azur4: that's not nice to do that here
[22:25] <momesana> we are not blind
[22:25] <momesana> azur4: check to see if you find hungarian ubuntu channels. There are good chances you find some
[22:25] <bukharin> danub: apt-cache search will search in the repos
[22:26] <bukharin> apt-get install will install it or tell you if its already installed.
[22:26] <azur4> és hogy lehet magyar irc csatornára váltani tudniillik én most kezdtem a linuxot 1-2 órája
[22:26] <azur4> !
[22:26] <azur4> ?
[22:26] <sirPengi> is there a way to customize the output of the phosphor screensaver? I'm changing ~/.kde/share/config/phosphorrc and the other settings (scale, etc) are working but setting program to my script doesn't
[22:26] <momesana> danub: start synaptic and search for xserver-xorg-video
[22:26] <SkitleLinux18> yeah, that is the easiest way danub
[22:26] <bukharin> well... i guess i won't get any info on what happened to kio-plugins :(
[22:27] <momesana> then in the list look out for xserver-xorg-video-intel
[22:27] <azur4> és hogy lehet magyar irc csatornára váltani tudniillik én most kezdtem a linuxot 1-2 órája
[22:27] <azur4> és hogy lehet magyar irc csatornára váltani tudniillik én most kezdtem a linuxot 1-2 órája
[22:27] <azur4> és hogy lehet magyar irc csatornára váltani tudniillik én most kezdtem a linuxot 1-2 órája
[22:27] <azur4> és hogy lehet magyar irc csatornára váltani tudniillik én most kezdtem a linuxot 1-2 órája
[22:27] <azur4> és hogy lehet magyar irc csatornára váltani tudniillik én most kezdtem a linuxot 1-2 órája
[22:27] <azur4> és hogy lehet magyar irc csatornára váltani tudniillik én most kezdtem a linuxot 1-2 órája
[22:27] <azur4> és hogy lehet magyar irc csatornára váltani tudniillik én most kezdtem a linuxot 1-2 órája
[22:27] <azur4> és hogy lehet magyar irc csatornára váltani tudniillik én most kezdtem a linuxot 1-2 órája
[22:27] <azur4> és hogy lehet magyar irc csatornára váltani tudniillik én most kezdtem a linuxot 1-2 órája
[22:27] <azur4> és hogy lehet magyar irc csatornára váltani tudniillik én most kezdtem a linuxot 1-2 órája
[22:27] <azur4> ?
[22:27] <bukharin> can someone kick the flooder plis?
[22:27] <momesana> would someone be so nice to kick that azur4 out of the channel?
[22:27] <danub> it is already installed
[22:27] <danub> !op
[22:28] <momesana> danub: that's what I said all the time ;)
[22:28] <danub> would one of you be so kind as to kick azur4 please?
[22:28] <cuznt> well now he stopped
[22:28] <momesana> you didn't want to listen
[22:28] <momesana> danub: so now create a basic xorg file
[22:28] <PriceChild> !hu | azur4
[22:28] <bukharin> ehem, why does he need to create a new one?
[22:28] <bukharin> he just has to add one line
[22:28] <bukharin> with device intel
[22:28] <bukharin> or driver intel
[22:28] <bukharin> i dopn't remember :P
[22:28] <Coggz> would you suggest ubuntu 32bit or 64bit for a dual core cpu?
[22:28] <danub> yeah, im alittle confused as to that also momesana
[22:29] <danub> ill make one anyway just for fun :P whats the command
[22:29] <momesana> danub: issue the following into the command line: X :1 -configure (you can switch back to your current xorg session by pressing ctrl+alt-7)
[22:29] <bukharin> danub: back up your semi-working one. it is really easy to fsck up your xorg :P
[22:29] <danub> lol ok
[22:30] <momesana> bukharin: he is not owerwriting it yet
[22:30] <momesana> overwriting*
[22:31] <danub> ok, just backed it up and ran your command
[22:31] <danub> now what?
[22:31] <DaSkreech> !hu | azur4
[22:31] <Omoikane_> Does anyone know how to install the 64 bit adobe flash player for ubuntu?
[22:32] <danub> momesana: now what do i need to do?
[22:33] <danub> ohh, he was gone
[22:33] <danub> lol
[22:33] <momesana_> sorry
[22:33] <danub> that would explain why you weren't answering me momesana
[22:33] <momesana_> got disconnected
[22:33] <momesana_> damned dialup
[22:33] <bukharin> DIALUP!?
[22:33] <danub> DONT EVER DO THAT AGAIN!!! :P j/p
[22:33] <bukharin> yisus. i feel your pain.
[22:33] <momesana_> yep
[22:33] <momesana_> ok
[22:33] <momesana_> so you did issue the command?
[22:33] <danub> yes
[22:34] <momesana_> bukharin: yeah, I am in iran and ahmadinejad killed the nice 2Mbit ADSL connections we had 5 years ago
[22:34] <bukharin> well, i won be getting any info on my thingy, so i'll let you two get on with the intel driver. good luck!
[22:34] <momesana_> bukharin: and it costs me a loooooooooooot of money
[22:34] <bukharin> :O
[22:34] <danub> bukharin: what \was your question?
[22:34] <bukharin> i think this is my first tme chattin with an iranian
[22:35] <momesana_> danub: ok danub, so you can try out the config easily by trying this: X -config pathtoyournewconfig :1
[22:35] <bukharin> danub: i wanted to install knights, a ches program, but t asks for a non available package
[22:35] <danub> i dont know what the path to the new config is
[22:35] <momesana_> and see if it works. use ctrl Alt backspace to kill it once you have tested it
[22:35] <momesana_> bukharin: hehe. where are you from?
[22:35] <bukharin> so i wanted to know if anyone here knew what happende to kio-plugins
[22:35] <bukharin> chile
[22:35] <SkitleLinux18> momesana: good job, dude. you were right that is is installed. my bad. danub: you're in good hands with momesana, so i'm going to let him take over. good luck!
[22:35] <bukharin> momesana_: im from chile.
[22:36] <momesana_> danub:  it was created in the directory where you issued the command from
[22:36] <danub> bukharin: lemme check my repos
[22:36] <danub> oh crap... relal?
[22:36] <momesana_> and it is called xorg-new or something like that
[22:36] <danub> really? i was in /etc/X11/....
[22:36] <SkitleLinux18> hahahahaha
[22:36] <SkitleLinux18> have fun guys!!
[22:36] <momesana_> bukharin: I've been chatting with a few guys from chile though
[22:37] <momesana_> bukharin: nice country spanning half of the continent :)
[22:37] <danub> bukharin: kdebase-kio-plugins
[22:37] <bukharin> momesana_ yes. very long and narrow. it has its advantages... we are enver to far from the sea :)
[22:37] <danub> bukharin: kdesdk-kio-plugins
[22:37] <momesana_> :)
[22:38] <bukharin> danub: yep, that's the one. seems kde 4 changed its kio architecture, and it hasn't been ported or somwething
[22:38] <danub> those are the ones i found in the repos
[22:38] <danub> brb
[22:38] <bukharin> danub: knights asks for kdebase-kio-plugins
[22:38] <bukharin> danub but is not available :(
[22:39] <momesana_> danub: did you try out the new X.org file to see if X starts at all?
[22:44] <DaSkreech> bukharin: ask someone in #kde-devel sounds like a package conflict
[22:44] <danub> wow
[22:44] <bukharin> DaSkreech: thanks a bunch. i was wondering if this was the right channel to ask in :)
[22:44] <danub> that guy talks wayyyy too much
[22:45] <danub> ok, lemme see if i can install that package from the repo.... i have a very large special repo list :P
[22:45] <Omoikane_> I installed ibex and now my mute button doesn't work. I tried playing with the assignments to make sure the button itself works and it does but for some reason the mute function doesn't work anymore. any ideas?
[22:46] <bukharin> danub: dont worry, i'll see if i can get some answers in kde-devel.
[22:46] <bukharin> danub: thanks!
[22:46] <courtjesterg> hi ppl
[22:46] <DaSkreech> bukharin: Argh. #kubuntu-devel
[22:46] <DaSkreech> It's a kubuntu issue not a KDE
[22:46] <DaSkreech> !hi
[22:47] <danub> nope, your sol
[22:48] <danub> try the #kubuntu-devel chan
[22:48] <danub> momesana_: i cant find the new xorg
[22:49] <bukharin> Daskreech: yeah, the guys at kde-devel wuickly pointed out it was not their bussiness :)
[22:49] <CourtJesterG> DUNNO JUST LOOKED IN ADEPT SETTINGS NVIDIA X SERVER SETTINGS ITS CALLED 177.78 sry caps
[22:49] <momesana_> danub: well, just change into some directory like /tmp and issue the command again
[22:49] <danub> ok
[22:49] <momesana_> to create a file
[22:49] <CourtJesterG> yeah just did a clean reinstall
[22:49] <DaSkreech> bukharin: sorry about that
[22:49] <momesana_> or search for the file with find ~ -iname "xorg.conf.new"
[22:49] <CourtJesterG> no just type in nvida
[22:50] <CourtJesterG> nvidia and look at settings
[22:50] <momesana_> danub: the file was called xorg.conf.new and I guess you issued the command from your homedirectory or /etc/X11 or whereever you were with the shell
[22:50] <Omoikane_> anyone have any experience with broken mute buttons?
[22:50] <momesana_> just look around a little or simply create a new file
[22:50] <momesana_> Omoikane_: you mean on tha notebook?
[22:51] <Omoikane_> momesana_ yes
[22:51] <danub> it is telling me that a display is already in use
[22:51] <danub> and i cant use it
[22:51] <momesana_> we had that discussion a while ago
[22:52] <momesana_> danub: use X :1 -configure
[22:52] <momesana_> danub: the :1 means start a second X session on F8
[22:52] <danub> yeah i did that, i made the new file, i flipped over to f2 screen and ran 'X -config /root/xorg.conf.new'
[22:52] <danub> ohh
[22:53] <momesana_> if you have already two sessions running you could use :2 with X :2 -configure and so on. In other words one can have more than one X-session running
[22:53] <danub> X : 1 config /root/xorg.conf.new' then?
[22:53] <momesana_> danub: ok, so you must use X -config /root/xorg.conf.new -- :1
[22:53] <momesana_> :)
[22:53] <danub> ok, ill give that a shot
[22:53] <Omoikane_> momesana_ any ideas?
[22:53] <momesana_> well ... nope
[22:54] <momesana_> :)
[22:54] <carpii> i copied some truetype fonts into my WINE fonts folder. I also registered them and can use them in Ubuntu. But Photoshoip in wine isnt picking these new fonts up. Anyone else had this problem?
[22:54] <danub> unrecognized option --:2
[22:54] <momesana_> oh sorry
[22:54] <momesana_> danub: you were right of course
[22:54] <danub> lol
[22:55] <momesana_> X :1 -config /root/xorg.conf.new
[22:55] <danub> ok ill try that one
[22:55] <danub> ok, its loading up
[22:55] <momesana_> Omoikane_: not really. You should ask uncle google. i guess there are some workarounds since this does not seem like a difficult thing to implement. But having two requests withing a few hours should alarm any kubuntu-dev here to do something about that ;)
[22:55] <GGoby> Howdy................
[22:55] <bashbin> hi
[22:55] <momesana_> danub: nice
[22:55] <bashbin> How can I play a movie,  when I have a directory containing  *.bup,  *.ifo and *vob  files?  None of them seems to be playable
[22:56] <Coggz> can anyonen tell me how to set up grub on a fresh machine. I have XP on one partition, and ubuntu 8.10 on a nother
[22:56] <danub> no space left on device?!
[22:56] <momesana_> !hi
[22:56] <danub> wth does that mean?
[22:56] <danub> op out for now
[22:56] <CourtJesterG> !thanks
[22:56] <danub> i will be back on in about 2 hours
[22:56] <danub> thanks for the help so far.
[22:56] <jarrel> hello
[22:56] <CourtJesterG> !ubottu a/s/l?
[22:56] <DaSkreech> Danu:
[22:56] <CourtJesterG> lol
[22:56] <DaSkreech> Curses!!
[22:56] <momesana_> danub: whaaaaaaaaaaat?
[22:56] <momesana_> danub: your partition is full???
[22:56] <GGoby> Coggz: Ummm..if you just install it will setup grub to boot both
[22:56] <momesana_> danub: issue this command: df -h
[22:57] <jjproctor_> hey guys i dount know if u can help me or not but is this the channal for ubuntu 8.10
[22:57] <DaSkreech> jjproctor_: no
[22:57] <Danu> ¿?
[22:57] <bashbin> solved  - vlc works :)
[22:57] <bashbin> thx all
[22:57] <DaSkreech> Danu: Did it again tricky bugger
[22:57] <jjproctor_> how ok thanks
[22:57] <CourtJesterG> !ubuntu
[22:57] <DaSkreech> !gnome
[22:57] <Danu> jaja
[22:57] <GGoby> jjproctor_: This is for Kubuntu....you want to join #ubuntu
[22:57] <Omoikane_> momesana_ Yeah, myself and a friend have been having the same issue and been working with google for the last few week.
[22:57] <CourtJesterG> #ubuntu
[22:58] <GGoby> !samba
[22:58] <CourtJesterG> !virus
[22:58] <Coggz> GGoby: ah, thanks
[22:59] <CourtJesterG> a/v/ i think is better then mcfree virus it find worms so much better and trojans i used to run both
[22:59] <CourtJesterG> even norton can't find half the stuff mcfree and a/v finds
[22:59] <GGoby> Coggz: NP...after you install you can change the names and how long to display the options before it automatically boots into the default system...you can also set XP as the default system to boot into
[22:59] <momesana__> got disconnected again. I haaaaaaaate dialup
[22:59] <CourtJesterG> one reason i came to linux
[22:59] <dr_willis> somd days i think Nortons IS a virus...
[22:59] <dr_willis> :P
[23:00] <GGoby> dr
[23:00] <GGoby> dr_willis: A insidious one at that...lol
[23:01] <CourtJesterG> oh though we could say microsoft puts virus delays to run in there own updates as easter eggs then to help the other software company make money they all mad a deal in secret so everyone keeps buying all this software its a big cycle scheme
[23:01] <momesana__> DaSkreech: if you are still around when danub turns up could you please tell him to backup his /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace it with the newly created one and to finetune the file afterwards to suit his needs? he should specifically check to see if the driver in Section "Device" is "Intel" and so on. Well you guys will take care of him :)
[23:02] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: It is a virus
[23:03] <DaSkreech> momesana__: I'm leaving in 15 minutes
[23:03] <GGoby> Has anyone gone through the wiki on setting up Samba server to mount windows shares permanently?
[23:03] <momesana__> DaSkreech: oh :(. I'll also be leavin soon. It's already 02:35 here.
[23:04] <DaSkreech> It's 6:00 here
[23:04] <jarrel> how do i check to see if my wireless card drivers is installed
[23:04] <momesana__> DaSkreech: AM or PM?
[23:04] <CourtJesterG> how do i ddefragment my hard drive?
[23:05] <GGoby> Oh yeah..anyone tell me how to get to the clock settings to change the time format to 12 hour?
[23:05] <DaSkreech> momesana__: Does it matter? :)
[23:05] <CourtJesterG> =)
[23:05] <DaSkreech> CourtJesterG: Good luck with that
[23:05] <momesana__> DaSkreech: not really. but I was wondering whether you are going to bed or have been standing up very early
[23:05] <CourtJesterG> i think my northbridge fan is failing though it is kinda loud but not needed really
[23:07] <GGoby> clear
[23:08] <CourtJesterG> ok so when i did my first reinstall aafter i switched out my 40 pin ide cable for 80 found out my cd/rewrite is coming up as a faulty drive
[23:09] <CourtJesterG> i finished the instaall in the desktop runnin glive even tryed cleaning the drive with a lens cleaner now if this didn't fix the problem i need to lower the speed how i do that?
[23:10] <CourtJesterG> no its still not working
[23:11] <CourtJesterG> !cd/rewrite
[23:11] <CourtJesterG> whats the chat room for bot commands?
[23:11] <DaSkreech> !brun
[23:11] <DaSkreech> !burn
[23:11] <DaSkreech> !bot
[23:12] <CourtJesterG> !no it just not about burning its not even reading a disk i have it on master and my cd/rom on slave i whiched them to see if it would make a difference it did in that it shows
[23:12] <DaSkreech> heh
[23:13] <CourtJesterG> !#rooms
[23:15] <DaSkreech> CourtJesterG: What are you looking for?
[23:17] <jarrel> am looking for a good p2p
[23:18] <CourtJesterG> !kde
[23:19] <CourtJesterG> !drives
[23:20] <Omoikane_> anyone have any experience with broken mute buttons?
[23:23] <CourtJesterG> !foo is <reply> bar
[23:23] <CourtJesterG> !foo
[23:23] <CourtJesterG> {{{!foo is foo !foo is also bar}}}
[23:24] <CourtJesterG> !bar is <alias> foo
[23:24] <deiwi> HI everyone
[23:24] <deiwi> Hola a toooos
[23:25] <DaSkreech> !hi
[23:25] <CourtJesterG> #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:26] <CourtJesterG> #kubuntu_offtopic
[23:26] <deiwi> esto es solo de soporte?
[23:26] <deiwi> this is only 4 support??
[23:28] <CourtJesterG> #ubuntu-virt
[23:30] <GGoby> Ok I am following setting up Samba server and am at the point where I need to edit fstab...I don't understand what in the smb.conf file gives the smb server it's name?
[23:30] <CourtJesterG> #kubuntu-kde4
[23:31] <CourtJesterG> #kubuntu-devel
[23:32] <CourtJesterG> kubuntu-de
[23:32] <CourtJesterG> #kubuntu-de
[23:33] <carpii> GGoby, its the second parameter which specifies the mount point
[23:33] <carpii> like this
[23:33] <carpii> //ARIZONA/C /mnt/arizona smbfs username=Administrator,password=XXXXXX
[23:33] <DrX> anyone know how to fix "Insufficient privilege fo the file" "Unable to set the short 8.3 name" "The system call level is not correct" on some files and "Unable to write data" and "Access is denied" errors on about 200,000 of 300,000 files being restored from a Windows XP NTBackup to a Linux server?
[23:34] <GGoby> carpii: Ok...is there not a default servername for the default install of smbfs?
[23:34] <carpii> what do you mean. the smbfs is used to access a remote samba share
[23:35] <carpii> if youre trying to connect to another linux machine, you should probably use nfs
[23:35] <CourtJesterG> !nfs
[23:35] <carpii> ARIZONA in the example i pasted above. is the name of the windows server on my LAN
[23:35] <GGoby> carpii: In smb.conf you specify the server name...then when connecting from windows it will list this name
[23:35] <CourtJesterG> !error16
[23:36] <CourtJesterG> !error 16
[23:36] <CourtJesterG> *smack
[23:36] <carpii> i dont understand what youre trying to do. You set the samba share up in windows generally
[23:36] <carpii> and there you can name it whatever you want
[23:36] <CourtJesterG> !infobot
[23:37] <CourtJesterG> why the heck not
[23:37] <carpii> or are you trying to share a directory from linux so your windows machine can access it ?
[23:37] <CourtJesterG> *smack
[23:37] <CourtJesterG> #infobot
[23:38] <CourtJesterG> whats the room to type in bot commands so i am not disturbing the chat room?
[23:40] <Omoikane_> anyone have any experience with broken mute buttons?
[23:40] <CourtJesterG> !gay what is gayness it is being happy sometimes people get to happy and make it a life style a fetish of sorts do what you want but it still doesn't fit properly nor is natrual in the point of child birth
[23:40] <Ash-Fox> How on Earth does someone
[23:41] <Ash-Fox> How on Earth does someone group taskbar items together in KDE4?
[23:41] <CourtJesterG> !kick
[23:41] <CourtJesterG> !banned
[23:41] <CourtJesterG> !admin
[23:41] <CourtJesterG> !admitt
[23:41] <CourtJesterG> !programmer
[23:42] <CourtJesterG> !program
[23:42] <CourtJesterG> i can't spell
[23:42] <CourtJesterG> !dos
[23:42] <CourtJesterG> !microsoft
[23:42] <CourtJesterG> lol
[23:42] <CourtJesterG> ok let me go its too funny
[23:43] <CourtJesterG> #CourtJesterG
[23:43] <CourtJesterG> NOS ERIOUSLY WHATS THAT CHAT ROOM
[23:43] <Ash-Fox> !askthebot | CourtJesterG
[23:45] <fehrp> flashplayer-nonfree gives me in konqueror a white image where the flash part should be. I have every menupoints when I rightclick, but no video nor sound. kde 4.12, kubuntu 8.10, flashplugin accordingly
[23:45] <Ash-Fox> Seriously, how on Earth does someone group taskbar items together in KDE4, like in KDE3?
[23:46] <Ash-Fox> !flashplugin-nonfree | fehrp
[23:46] <Ash-Fox> fehrp, the package is called flashplugin-nonfree
[23:47] <fehrp> Ash-Fox: i know
[23:47] <Ash-Fox> You need to install that, not 'flashplayer'
[23:47] <fehrp> yes i know
[23:47] <Ash-Fox> flashplayer-nonfree is not flashplugin-nonfree
[23:47] <fehrp> Ash-Fox: already did that, I just wrote it wrong here on irc
[23:48] <Ash-Fox> fehrp, it works here, but I installed flash by installing kubuntu-restricted-extras initially.
[23:48] <fehrp> as said: it seems to load, but I don't get to see the flash, only a white space instead where i can rightclick and the flash menu stuff comes up
[23:48] <CourtJesterG> note i've gotten all plugin installed i did and guess what for some reason still couldn't get into yoville from myspace and faccebook just trying to clickont he start did nothing
[23:48] <fehrp> Ash-Fox: I tried that, too, before
[23:48] <fehrp> same issue
[23:48] <CourtJesterG> i worked on that for a week and still a no go
[23:49] <CourtJesterG> everything else showed
[23:49] <CourtJesterG> something is bad in a plugin and not right
[23:53] <Ash-Fox> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9C7YzqTtFXU& works for me, http://ash-fox.quickfox.org/temp/flashtest
[23:54] <valantis> hello does anyone know how i can bring back my top toolbar because suddendly has disappeared?
[23:54] <fehrp> Ash-Fox: when I go with the resticted-extras and not the plugin-nonfree I don't even get the white square
[23:54] <fehrp> the flash part is just disappeared
[23:54]  * Ash-Fox shrugs
[23:55] <jhutchins_wk> valantis: Right-click on desktop, configure desktop?
[23:55] <jhutchins_wk> valantis: Which top toolbar?  What app?
[23:55] <valantis> yes i have tryed
[23:55] <Ash-Fox> fehrp, I can't replicate your problem.
[23:55] <Ash-Fox> fehrp, even on a clean install in vmware.
[23:55] <valantis> the top top with maximize minimize etc etc
[23:55] <jhutchins_wk> KDE4?
[23:55] <valantis> the basic toolbar in every window
[23:55] <DarkSmoke> lol
[23:56] <DarkSmoke> window manager
[23:56] <jhutchins_wk> valantis: Which version of KDE?
[23:56] <DarkSmoke> open the run command dialog
[23:56] <DarkSmoke> and run kwin --replace
[23:56] <DarkSmoke> it should be back
[23:56] <fehrp> Ash-Fox: ... any hints for debugging?
[23:56] <DarkSmoke> or open konsole  and do: kwin --replace &
[23:56] <valantis> i am confused i have change it from gnome to kde
[23:57] <valantis> and doesnt appears my kde session
[23:57] <DarkSmoke> you made the best change of your life
[23:57] <Ash-Fox> fehrp, you could run konqueror from konsole with --nofork, and check for any errors that popup
[23:57] <valantis> ty but still trying to change it
[23:57] <jhutchins_wk> DarkSmoke: Except for kwin crashing all the time.
[23:57] <DarkSmoke> kwin crashing?
[23:57] <DarkSmoke> it never crashed for me :|
[23:58] <jhutchins_wk> DarkSmoke: I tried 4 on 2008.1, it was constantly loosing the decorations.
[23:58] <DarkSmoke> you must be giving drugs to your kwin jhutchins
[23:58] <fehrp> http://pastebin.com/m5ef7b0cd when visiting a flash page
[23:58] <DarkSmoke> 2008.1? whats that?
[23:58] <DarkSmoke> gentoo?
[23:58] <jhutchins_wk> That would be Mandriva 2008 Spring.
[23:59] <DarkSmoke> oh
[23:59] <jhutchins_wk> AKA latest working version of Mandriva.
[23:59] <jhutchins_wk> Good grief, I'm completely loosing track of which window I'm in, sorry.
[23:59] <jhutchins_wk> I think it's time to call it a day.