[14:56] <pleia2> won't be able to make the meeting tonight, rosh hashanah begins this evening so we'll be out doing that


[03:56]  * ScottK always thought it was clear that anything that hit New needed an FFe and is said to see the rules lawyers have taken over.
[13:25] <fginther> Greetings! May I ask someone to review some precise uploads (evemu, frame, grail and geis) or at least provide an estimate of when this might occur? Thanks.
[13:51] <cyphermox> ScottK: micahg: what I wrote before was precisely because I knew it was missing an FFE, sorry if that wasn't clear.
[13:53] <cyphermox> just filed for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sync/+bug/1043343
[13:53] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1043343 in indicator-sync "FFE: indicator-sync 12.10.1 -- fix namespacing errors in Gir and module naming consistency" [Undecided,New]
[13:54] <cyphermox> I'm going to need to do another upload because it failed to build on arm* and powerpc anyway
[14:03] <psivaa> There are some inconsistencies in the folder structure for quantal d-i images for amd64
[14:04] <psivaa> bsdtar reports boot
[14:04] <psivaa> boot/grub
[14:04] <psivaa> instead of ./boot
[14:04] <psivaa> ./boot/grub
[14:07] <tumbleweed> what's the difference?
[14:08] <psivaa> hmm may be not
[16:08] <rtg> I am planning to upload a new kernel with a fix for uvcvideo that has caused a number of lockups during live CD installations. Any objections? (no ABI bump required)
[16:08] <stgraber> bugfix only, no ABI bump, sounds good to me
[16:23] <rtg> stgraber, 2 bug fixes: bug #1042903 and bug #1042809
[16:23] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1042903 in linux "mgag200 driver hangs on HP ProLiant Gen 8 platform" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1042903
[16:23] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1042809 in linux "HP Webcam-101 (uvcvideo) locking machine" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1042809
[16:42] <stgraber> rtg: right, so assuming you're not planning another upload for beta1, I think this should be uploaded now so it's all built by the time we freeze tomorrow
[16:43] <rtg> stgraber, mere seconds ago...
[16:49] <tedg> So I've got a couple FFe's that I'm tracking and I'd like to figure out their status.  bug 1042757  and bug 1040221
[16:49] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1042757 in unity-greeter "FFe request: Unity greeter network indicator" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1042757
[16:49] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1040221 in unity-greeter "FFe request: Provide remote login options" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040221
[16:49] <tedg> The second is still waiting on MIR reviews from security, but they've said they would be doing them today.
[17:01] <tedg> slangasek, Laney, do you guys perhaps know?  ^
[17:06] <Laney> seems skaet is on it
[17:07] <seb128> Laney, where do you see that?
[17:08] <Laney>  Kate Stewart (kate.stewart) wrote 3 minutes ago: 	#1
[17:08] <Laney> When can the code land?
[17:08] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/1042757/comments/1
[17:08] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1042757 in unity-greeter "FFe request: Unity greeter network indicator" [Undecided,New]
[17:10] <seb128> Laney, oh, I didn't see the updates yet ;-)
[17:10] <Laney> :P
[17:14] <Daviey> Has someone reverted the squashfs usage in server iso?  It's in A3, but not in daily.
[17:15] <ogra_> Daviey, i definitely see it in my daily arm images
[17:15] <ogra_> must be that crappy x86 arch
[17:16] <slangasek> cronjob still shows 'buildlive ubuntu-server daily && for-project ubuntu-server cron.daily'
[17:17] <slangasek> it also shows a daily i386 iso being built.  have those not been turned off?
[17:19] <Daviey> they should not have been turned off
[17:19] <slangasek> Daviey: but we're not releasing them, so why build them?
[17:19] <slangasek> or are you still gathering info about whether to release them?
[17:21] <Daviey> dave@frap:~$ curl http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/quantal-server-amd64.list  2>/dev/null | grep filesystem.squashfs
[17:21] <Daviey> dave@frap:~$ curl http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/quantal/alpha-3/quantal-server-amd64.list 2>/dev/null | grep filesystem.squashfs
[17:21] <Daviey> /casper/filesystem.squashfs
[17:21] <Daviey> slangasek: gather info.. the deal is to be promoting amd64.. but we should still be building i386..
[17:22] <Daviey> If i wanted i386 to stop being built, i'd have done it :)
[17:22] <Daviey> ogra_ / slangasek: So somthing has changed between alpha 3 and now.
[17:22] <slangasek> Daviey: well, the message I saw earlier this cycle was that you were proposing to not ship i386 server at all
[17:23] <ogra_> we got a new live-build very recently
[17:23] <slangasek> ogra_: which should not impact whether the squashfs is included in the CD
[17:23] <ogra_> did you chekck the contents of your squashfs ?
[17:23] <slangasek> the squashfs /isn't included on the CD/, live-build can't have caused that
[17:23] <Daviey> slangasek: that was the message.. but everywhere i've said that, i also said that we would still be building it.. just not 'releasing it'
[17:23] <Daviey> which has been the status for all the Alpha's so far.
[17:24] <slangasek> Daviey: hmm, well.  I don't see the point in having it built if it's not going to be released
[17:25] <Daviey> slangasek: The not releasing it for milestones was an effort to gather "oh noes".  We will likely still be releasing it for final.. but a step whcih requires thought to retrieve
[17:25] <Daviey> (we know too many people are downloing i386 when they really want amd64, so this is to help them :)
[17:26] <slangasek> Daviey: ah
[17:26] <ogra_> ogra@anubis:~/Desktop/images$ mount-image-partition quantal-server-armhf+omap4.img 2 /mnt/
[17:26] <ogra_> ogra@anubis:~/Desktop/images$ find /mnt -name *.squashfs
[17:26] <ogra_> /mnt/install/filesystem.squashfs
[17:26] <ogra_> thats todays armhf build
[17:27] <Daviey> i'm going to blame ogra_ :)
[17:28] <ogra_> heh, wasnt me :)
[17:28] <ogra_> sadly the .list files are generated for the first partition the script finds it seems
[17:28] <ogra_> so my .list looks quite different from x86
[17:30] <ogra_> even more intresting is that you had a /casper in your server images ... live-installer uses /install afaik
[17:30] <slangasek> Daviey: when was the last known-good build?
[17:30] <slangasek> nothing more recent than a3?
[17:30] <slangasek> the last commit that seems to change squashfs handling in the debian-cd branch is cjwatson's 1802 from 2012-07-31
[17:32] <Daviey> yeah
[17:32] <Daviey> slangasek: Well, we don't have legacy images atm :(
[17:32] <Daviey> i'm wondering if the jenkins install log exposes this.. but i doubt it
[17:32] <slangasek> "legacy images"?
[17:34] <slangasek> Daviey: how did you determine that the squashfs wasn't there?  only by looking at the .list?
[17:35] <slangasek> seems to be a bug in the .list generation
[17:35] <slangasek> because when I download the image, it's there
[17:35] <Daviey> slangasek: yes, i looked at the .list
[17:35] <Daviey> wait, you see it in the daily?
[17:35] <slangasek> yes
[17:35] <ogra_> slangasek, you would have huge amounts of bugs from testers and complaining people on IRC if it wasnt there
[17:35] <slangasek> the .list generation is buggy in some way I haven't bothered to track down
[17:35] <Daviey> i'm looking at it right now.. not in /casper/filesystem.casper?
[17:35] <ogra_> (installs would all fail)
[17:35] <slangasek> ogra_: no, you wouldn't
[17:35] <slangasek> Daviey: /install/filesystem.squashfs
[17:36] <Daviey> ogra_: it falls back gracefully
[17:36] <Daviey> GRR
[17:36] <Daviey> slangasek: it was moved from /casper/ .. I didn't know. Sorry.
[17:36] <Daviey> Why was it moved?
[17:36] <slangasek> so in fact, this is due to cjwatson's change moving the file on you ;)
[17:36] <ogra_> oh, we still have the packages for a debootstrap on the images ?
[17:36] <slangasek> maybe because casper/ is a misnomer?
[17:36] <Daviey> Curse that man! ;)
[17:37] <slangasek> ogra_: no, we don't, but debian-cd includes the packages *only* if it doesn't find them in the squashfs
[17:37] <ogra_> oh, ok, a build time fallback
[17:37]  * ogra_ thought install time
[17:37] <Daviey> (and runtime)
[17:37] <slangasek> (rather, in the manifest, since it can't actually introspect the squashfs)
[17:37] <slangasek> Daviey: well, a runtime fallback wouldn't do much good if the packages weren't actually available on the image... but the image build ensures that they are if necessary
[17:38] <Daviey> ogra_: Unless i am mistaken, di looks in a given location for the squashfs.. if it doesn't exist.. (or location preseeded (inc. http)), it will use the mirror, either local pool or a.u.c for debs
[17:39] <ogra_> Daviey, ah, network would be possible, yeah, though live-installer would still bark at you i guess
[17:39] <Daviey> ogra_: I don't think it does bark.. just fallback.
[17:39] <ogra_> k
[17:40] <Daviey> ogra_: netinstall therefore defaults to using debs, but can be preseeded (or have the squashfs already in the right place) to use live-install.
[17:40] <Daviey> I might be mistaken.. that was my understanding, and assumption i've been working on.
[17:41] <ogra_> your assumption might be right :)
[21:52] <sbeattie> SpamapS: can you use your SRU admin powers to release icedtea-web in natty-proposed and oneiric-proposed to their respective security pockets (they fix a regression introduced by a security update).
[21:52] <sbeattie> also, releasing icedtea-web for precise-updates would be appreciated, too.
[22:02] <slangasek> what are those rejects about?
[22:03] <infinity> Working with cnd on it all right now.
[22:03] <slangasek> ok
[22:22] <Daviey> sbeattie: Spamaps is at a conf'.. might have better luck with another member of the team.
[22:25] <slangasek> infinity: bug #1043517 is an interesting dupe; desktop install with no ubuntu-desktop package installed
[22:25] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1043517 in resolvconf "package resolvconf 1.63ubuntu15 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: pre-dependency problem - not installing resolvconf (dup-of: 1017001)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043517
[22:25] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1017001 in apt "package resolvconf 1.63ubuntu14 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: pre-dependency problem - not installing resolvconf" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017001
[22:25] <slangasek> sbeattie, Daviey: looking
[22:27] <slangasek> sbeattie: the same package version is also in {natty,oneiric}-updates; does it need copied there too?
[22:28] <sbeattie> slangasek: yes, the versions in {natty,oneiric}-proposed should also be copied to -updates
[22:28] <slangasek> ok
[22:28] <slangasek> reading the bug now
[22:29] <sbeattie> (I wasn't sure if that would happen automagically or not)
[22:29] <slangasek> the natty package hasn't built on armel
[22:29] <sbeattie> yeah, it won't because openjdk-6 FTBFS on armel.
[22:30] <slangasek> ok.  is this a regression vs. the previous version in natty-updates?
[22:30] <slangasek> seems not
[22:30] <sbeattie> no, it's not.
[22:31] <slangasek> sbeattie: ok, done
[22:31] <slangasek> (well, once I accept from this silly unapproved queue)
[22:32] <sbeattie> slangasek: thanks! :)
[22:34] <infinity> slangasek: Are you using an old sru-release?
[22:35] <slangasek> maybe?
[22:35]  * slangasek checks
[22:35] <slangasek> I didn't think I was
[22:35] <infinity> slangasek: "sru-release -s natty icedtea-web" would have just autmagically copied-with-accept to updates and security.
[22:35] <slangasek> oh
[22:35] <infinity> slangasek: Shouldn't hit unapproved.
[22:35] <slangasek> right, so no I'm not because I didn't use 'sru-release' at all but copy-package :P
[22:35] <infinity> Ahh.
[22:35] <slangasek> which was bad of me
[22:36] <infinity> Meh, gets the job done.
[22:36] <slangasek> doesn't append the bug comments though
[22:36] <infinity> Nope, that it doesn't.
[22:36] <infinity> Of course, while I'm praising the joys of sru-release, I just got an OOPS mailed to me from my latest copy.
[22:36] <infinity> Grr.
[22:54] <knome> there's an awkward bug with xfwm4 in quantal. it appeared maybe a week ago, and the problem is that 1px wide window borders are not drawn/drawn incorrectly with nvidia proprietary drivers. we're quite sure this relates to a recent xorg update. anybody has any ideas what might have causing that?
[22:56] <knome> it also happens on vbox installations, so it's probably not (only) linked to nvidia drivers
[22:58] <infinity> knome: Filing a bug on xorg-server might be a good start, then.
[22:59] <knome> infinity, obviously, i've gathered that much myself. thanks anyway.


[01:18] <programmerx> kabuntu is amazing.
 agreed!
 Sup all
 totally agree kubuntu is amazing
[04:16] <umar> hallo
 hello kubuntu friends I have a question for everyone, and is the following:
 Does anybody knows how much minimum RAM is required for KUBUNTU in order to work properly ??
 4GB is a comfortable minimum.  Anything less would be somewhat limiting...
 How do you plan to use your computer?
 Thanks very much Darin I preciate your answer , I am planning to use my KUBUNTU for programming some arduino and general computing like some email and reading lot's of pdf files.
 If you don't plan to run Teams, Zoom and watch 4K youtube videos with multiple tabs open, the you could probably manage with 2GB.
 With the 8 GB RAM that I have I think is fine to run the KUBUNTU ...
 Thank you very much for your anwser DARIN 😃
[06:16] <lordievader> Good morning
 'Morning
 :-)
[08:46] <miguel11> any idea how to connect kubuntu to a tv as wireless display?
[08:49] <Mollusk_muso> Why can't I get icons on the virtual desktops?
[09:32] <user|50375> hola a todos soy nuevo en linux quisiera saber como configurar mi teclado para escribir caracteres asiaticos
[10:39] <Saeid> hi, when I use "startx /usr/bin/awesome --no-argb" it will run awesome, but when I use "startx" it won't!!! actually my ~/.xinitrc won't run it seems, it has following contents: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5qgCysGc4t/
[11:50] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[12:00] <Alabalistic> hi
[12:00] <Alabalistic> good day here
[12:07] <BluesKaj> hey Alabalistic
[13:09] <user|73740> 20.04 LTS and Libreoffice <IP_ADDRESS>  help (F1) responds with an error. Confirmed also on the live ISO. 18.04 LTS did not have this issue, side by side comparisons of directory and files reveals that 18.04 has many more files installed in /usr/share/libreoffice/help. Where can I find out what files are required for help in libreoffice 6.4 to work?
[13:11] <jsykas> I install Kubuntu 18 on 32 bit computer. I takes a few hours to install, then comes up woth Kubuntu background screen and mouse pointer. I see nothing else, So reboot and computer goes through install again. This just keeps happeing day after day. It apears to be installing fine, but maybe I don't know how to get the menu up.
[13:14] <BluesKaj> jsykas, why does it go into install mode everytime , do you have the install source cd or usb still connected/
[13:14] <BluesKaj> ?
[13:15] <BluesKaj> you need to set the bios to boot the disk/ssd drive
[13:16] <BluesKaj> or remove the install cd or disconnect the usb install stick
[13:18] <jsykas> Thank you, yes, i have the USB still connected. I get choice on boot of install or Windows XP. I will remove the USB the evening and see if that works.
[13:20] <oerheks> jsykas, did you check the iso with md5sum?
[13:20] <oerheks> !md5sum
[13:20] <jsykas> No I did not do that. If removing USB after install does not work, I will do that. Thank you
[13:28] <BluesKaj> jsykas, how old is this computer?
 Mic of my bluetooth earphone didn't get detected i traied everything please help!!!
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/ADagAZOZ/file_32344.jpg
 Mic of wired earphone workes well
 Please just help with this issue
[13:46] <jsykas> Computer is 2008  Dell SX280
[13:48] <jsykas> Thank you all for the fast, accurate & timely assistance. I will try these when I return home tonight.
[13:50] <ugur> Hi I did a fresh install of Kubuntu 20.04 today and first time I double clicked on a .desktop link I selected open with editor instead of execute. Now I want to change that behavior. Could you please help me ?
[13:51] <BluesKaj> jsykas, you need at least 4Gb memory to run Kubuntu on that machine
[13:53] <jsykas> I may not have that much. I will check. Thank you
[13:54] <BluesKaj> ugur, right click on the desktop link/icon and change your open with option
[13:55] <ugur> BluesKaj, what should I select there ? It seems like opening it with another application. I want to execute it
[13:55] <BluesKaj> what is the link/icon ?
[13:56] <ugur> It is the .desktop link for Tor Browser but I need the behavior for other desktop applications too like Eclipse IDE etc
[13:57] <BluesKaj> if you use double click do that
[13:57] <ugur> When I double click on Eclipse IDE it is opened in Kate with a content like [Desktop Entry]
[13:58] <BluesKaj> the change the open with behaviour in the context menu, right click
[13:58] <BluesKaj> then
[13:59] <ugur> BluesKaj, I see other applications to open with but I don't know what to select in order to execute the link
[13:59] <ugur> I know it is really basic but I couldn't find a solution googling it
[13:59] <BluesKaj> don't select anything,  uncheck the open with kate
[14:01] <ugur> There is no such an option as unselect open with. All I can do is select another application to open with
[14:03] <BluesKaj> try opening the app from the kmenu
[14:04] <ugur> I just unzipped it so no link in kmenu but when I search for it in the menu same thing happens it is openned in Kate
[14:08] <ugur> I removed all editors associated with it in mime types and now it is asking me to select an application when I double click it but still no option to execute the link
[14:25] <ugur> Ok I associated the desktop mime type with help which runs the link but also opens help as a side effect. It should not be that hard to tweak this. Am I wrong ?
[14:35] <ugur> ok found it by googling: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=224&t=129445
[14:35] <ugur> DuckDuckGo did not display this result
 good find
[14:44] <BluesKaj> ugur, I haven't seen this issue in a long time, glad you found the fix.:-)
[16:46] <me> Hi,
[16:51] <Guest77350> Is there a way to disable a led ( matebook d 14 2020 ) if it's not listed in places like ' /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input3 ' ? The machine has an annoying charing led blinking that I can't get over.
[17:19] <SnowCrash> I appear to be affected by this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=404105 on Kubuntu 20.04 (Qt Version 5.12.8, Plasma Version 5.18.5), is there a patch for it? I can't get anything from just the regular repo updates. Thanks
 Guys a Query!
 When I use tty to start the X window I get White theme
 Otherwise during normal Start up I get black Theme
 Is this a Bug?
 OEM Install on Dell Vostro 3558
 Kubuntu 20.04
 KDE Plasma LTS
[19:18] <archetech_arm> how do I get qt 5.15 base for my kde?
[19:59] <memphisto> hi. torrent magnetic links won't get open with qbittorrent any more, but with Popcornt time...can't change this
[21:51] <GSMarquis> Having a hard time with consistency with Dolphin and samba share.....sometimes it works, sometimes it says invalid protocol.
[22:07] <wingedrhino> Is there a recommended dark theme that "just works"? Whenever I try out stuff like Breeze Dark, apps with coloured output or syntax highlighting like Kate and Quassel become unusable.
[23:08] <wingedrhino> For Quassel, https://gist.githubusercontent.com/Zren/2779042/raw/DarkMonokai.qss did the trick!
[23:09] <wingedrhino> For Kate, I had to manually set the theme to Breeze-Dark everywhere
 @wingedrhino, Thanks solving the issue and reporting the solution. :)


[18:58] <megapoooooooo> Hi
[18:59] <dax> hi
[19:01] <megapoooooooo> Watching SpaceX streams on Youtube - hoping for a lauch - was wondering if there is a ubuntu console youtube client?
[19:02] <Maik> megapoooooooo: support is in #ubuntu
[19:02] <megapoooooooo> Exept for youtube-dl - awsome.
[19:02] <megapoooooooo> Thanks - just chatting.
[19:03] <Maik> megapoooooooo: just chatting? then join #ubuntu-offtopic for casual talk
[19:03] <Maik> thought so :)
[20:07] <Unit193> !info streamlink


[01:37]  * m0nkey_ tickles diddledan
[08:18] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:45] <brobostigon> https://pastebin.com/Wfy36UYY anyone recognise that error?
[09:05] <Azelphur> brobostigon: yep, your USB device/port/hub has a case of the dead.
[09:05] <Azelphur> I get that intermittently because the hub I use is dead, need to replace it
[09:06] <brobostigon> other usb devices seem to work, like flash drives etc,
[09:07] <brobostigon> let me test
[09:17] <zmoylan-pi> the device wants more power than the others?
[09:18] <brobostigon> said device is plugged directly into said machine not via a hub, except for the hub built into the machine internally.
[09:21] <brobostigon> the device in question is my lg g watch, my intention was to test asteroidos on it.
[10:30] <Nokaji> Following a higlhy successful reinstall (copied over .xxx files), I have two proggies that bog down the system. 1/Libre Office Writer hangs frquently for multi-seconds or blacks out (usually recovers, to hang again), and Golden-Dictionary works at times but at some point will endlesly write to my swap file, which I can watch rising in terms of GBs! - Any ideas fellas, maybe a complete reinstall of those proggies with deletion of any source files or is
[10:30] <Nokaji> more needed here?
[11:06] <Nokaji> rebootig - will see if reinatall of goldendict helped but I'd like to understand the issue as well ...
[12:04] <Nokaji> goldendict reinstalled, needed a reboot for some reason, ... swap file still at 00.0kb (for now)
[12:04] <zmoylan-pi> fingers crossed...
[12:15] <Nokaji> it's such a light-weight proggie - can't imagine why it would write 7~8GB of data inside mins/secs
[12:16] <zmoylan-pi> bitcoin mining? :-P
[12:16] <Nokaji> just leaving it open for now, will 'work it' if it survies that test
[12:16] <Nokaji> it loks up dictionaries online
[12:16] <Nokaji> looks
[12:17] <Nokaji> or did I have to download the dictionaries??
[16:52] <Nokaji> seems goldendict likes to lock-up when being used, machine practically froze for 15 mins, requiring a forced reboot
[16:52] <Nokaji> could see the HDD light glowng for some time prior
[17:17] <daftykins> neat
[18:26] <MooDoo> howdy all
[18:26] <daftykins> \o


[15:28] <bengan> hi. is there anything to concider upgrading from ubuntustudio 16.10 to 17.10? or should I wait for next LTS?


[21:09] <qqqq> how does one adopt a package? I know ARCH & debian, but Ubuntu is shrouded in total mystery here ...
[21:11] <rbasak> qqqq: packages in Ubuntu are team maintained. If you've got things to fix, fixes can just be uploaded (through the sponsorship queue if you don't have permission to upload directly). Keep in mind though that not all uploads are suitable for Ubuntu - deltas have to be maintained, so the normal way to fix things is to get fixes landed upstream first so deltas are only temporary.
[21:13] <qqqq> I see. But say, s.o. set out to adopt a package. How? post onto that bugsquad mailinglist ? the wiki is immutable so that's no option.
[21:21] <qqqq> small wonder, Ubu has so many orphaned packages ...    ;-)
[21:22] <rbasak> There is no such thing as an orphaned package in Ubuntu.
[21:22] <rbasak> Because there is no such thing as "maintainership" either in Ubuntu. You cannot own a package like in Debian, though you can have a team that generally takes responsibility for one.
[21:23] <rbasak> So "set out to adopt a package" in Ubuntu has no meaning. If you have an upload ready to go in, please contribute that to the sponsorship queue and if it's acceptable it'll get uploaded.
[21:24] <rbasak> Perhaps, rather than speaking in hypotheticals, you could tell us your actual situation so we can suggest what you can do to help?
[21:27] <qqqq> well they use that language though.
[21:28] <qqqq> OK.
[21:29] <qqqq> I reacted to this post :  http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-scheme48-maintainers/2016q2/002780.html
[21:29] <qqqq> and the guy in charge said he needed s.o. to adopt the packages
[21:29] <rbasak> That's a Debian list. How does this relate to Ubuntu?
[21:29] <qqqq> ?
[21:30] <qqqq> oh well, it's Debian, yes
[21:31] <qqqq> gotta be upstream of Ubu
[21:34] <rbasak> So adopt the package in Debian, and Ubuntu will autosync it.
[21:35] <qqqq> OK... that is far easier to conduct since adoption is a standard preocedure in debian, less so in ubuntu ...   ;-)
[21:36] <rbasak> Like I say, adoption has no meaning in Ubuntu. It doesn't make sense to say that it is easy or difficult to conduct in Ubuntu, as there is no such thing and its non-existence doesn't block any development process whatsoever.
[21:37] <qqqq> I grant you that, mate.
[21:37] <qqqq> ;-)
[21:39] <qqqq> Thanks for clearing this up. We can't allow for Scheme-48 to go down the tube ...
[21:41] <rbasak> You're welcome. Just join in to maintain it well in Debian, and Ubuntu will get it "for free".
[21:41] <rbasak> Though watching and addressing bugs in Ubuntu (by uploading to Debian and/or patching stable Ubuntu releases as appropriate) also helps.
[21:45] <qqqq> yes... once one has figured out the Ubu infrastructure before dying of old age  ;-)
[21:59] <qqqq> I guess part of the problem was searching for "adoption" in Ubuntu, when - really - there is no such thing. Even though there is wiki page talking about "adoption". I rest my case.  ;-)
[22:03] <tarpman> possibly talking about different scopes? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/AdoptPackage seems to talk about bugsquad activities - primarily triage - while rbasak seemed to be talking about development - packaging and patching
[22:04] <rbasak> Ah. Right. That page is in the context of bug triage. That does have to be done separately between Debian and Ubuntu, even when the development work is entirely shared.
[22:10] <qqqq> interesting...
[22:18] <qqqq> if you look for adoption in Ubuntu, it is like looking for "chemtrails" - both do not exist, yet you don't figure it out for quite a while ... weird.
[22:18] <qqqq> ;-)


[01:17] <pef> Riddell: please think about konversation sync :) http://dev.erodia.net/ubuntu/konversation/konversation_0.18-3ubuntu1.debdiff
[10:37] <pef> hello
[12:06] <jpatrick> Riddell: Is my package ready?
[12:06] <Riddell> pef: what is that a diff against?
[12:06] <Riddell> jpatrick: which package?
[12:07] <jpatrick> ksplash-engine-moodin
[12:07] <Riddell> jpatrick: it still nee
[12:07] <Riddell> jpatrick: it still needs pef or someone to approve it
[12:07] <jpatrick> ah right
[12:32] <Tm_T> Riddell: was that  C++ transition already? :o
[12:33] <Riddell> Tm_T: c++ transition was waiting for flight-1 so I guess it'll be tomorrow
[12:33] <Tm_T> aah
[12:33] <Tm_T> thanks
[12:34] <Tm_T> hum, new kernel...
[12:35] <pef> Riddell: against current konversation version
[12:36] <Riddell> pef: could you do the patch against current debian version?
[12:36] <Riddell> I that would be easier to apply
[12:36] <jpatrick> Tm_T: I'm going to install it
[12:42] <jpatrick> see if this one picks up my sound card
[12:47] <pef> Riddell: yep, and upload to revu ?
[12:50] <Tm_T> argh
[12:51] <Tm_T> new kernel ofcourse didn't find nvidia drivers...
[12:55] <Riddell> pef: revu would be fine, or anywhere else but with anywhere else you'd have to keep pointing me to it until I upload
[01:26] <Diablo-D3> tommorow?!
[01:26] <Tm_T> :p
[01:26] <Diablo-D3> all I wanted for christmas was a working kdesktop =(
[01:27] <Tm_T> haha
[01:29] <freeflying> how to re-upload to revu
 I let KDevelop built on this laptop over night
 now it stopped right after I left it: out of diskspace :(
[02:29] <Diablo-D3> http://members.cox.net/transam57/lights.wmv
[03:24] <jpatrick> Riddell: \sh says yes
[03:24] <\sh> Riddell: u have to advocate again
[03:24] <jpatrick> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=981
[04:14] <raphink> Riddell: are you around?
[04:26] <jpatrick> raphink: doesn't look like it :(
[04:26] <raphink> :(
[04:26] <raphink> jpatrick: do you think you can help me with a library issue?
[04:27] <jpatrick> probably not :(
[04:27] <raphink> I mean
[04:27] <raphink> it's not a library issue properly speaking
[04:27] <raphink> there it is
[04:28] <raphink> i'm packaging Kalcul, which is part of the kdeedu project
[04:28] <raphink> now
[04:28] <raphink> Kalcul installs a kdeedu library that is not included in libkdeedu-dev
[04:28] <raphink> obviously, lintian tells me a binary package shouldn't install any library
[04:28] <jpatrick> make an extra package?
[04:28] <raphink> so i'm wondering if i should email the libkdeedu-dev maintainer about this
[04:28] <raphink> so he can add this lib to his package
[04:29] <raphink> as it should be in it imo
[04:29] <jpatrick> remake libkdeedu-dev and note in changelog?
[04:29] <raphink>  $ lintian /var/cache/pbuilder/result/kalcul_0.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[04:29] <raphink> W: kalcul: non-dev-pkg-with-shlib-symlink usr/lib/libkdeeduwidgets.so.0.0.0 usr/lib/libkdeeduwidgets.so
[04:29] <raphink> W: kalcul: package-name-doesnt-match-sonames libkdeeduwidgets0
[04:29] <raphink> you see
[04:30] <raphink> you mean make a NMU of libkdeedu-dev ?
[04:30] <raphink> well
[04:30] <raphink> libkdeedu-dev in is main
[04:30] <jpatrick> :/
[04:30] <raphink> :s
[04:30] <raphink> hehe
[04:30] <raphink> I hate to have issues like this ;)
[04:30] <jpatrick> make a libkdeedu-dev-xtras
[04:30] <raphink> hmm that's not clean
[04:31] <raphink> maybe i should :
[04:31] <raphink> 1) email the libkdeedu-dev about this so he can add the lib
[04:31] <raphink> 2) email the dev staff so they can remove this lib from their tarball
[04:31] <raphink> what do you think,
[04:31] <jpatrick> upstream
[04:32] <raphink> what do you mean?
[04:32] <jpatrick> no 1
[04:32] <raphink> really?
[04:32] <raphink> but then they'll just tell me that this lib is not available anywhere else
[04:33] <raphink> hmm
[04:33] <raphink> I'll go ask on #kdeedu
[04:33] <jpatrick> #kde-devel
[04:33] <raphink> yes too
[04:33] <raphink> but there's #kde-edu
[04:59] <jpatrick> raphink: any luck?
[05:45] <raphink> jpatrick: I emailed the upstream dev about it... i'll wait ;)
[05:46] <raphink> anyway I've got 5 other packages to be reviewed so there's no hurry
[05:56] <\sh> building amarok 1.3.6-1ubuntu1 without libvisual support
[06:00] <raphink> \sh: do you have some time to review some of my packages?
[06:01] <\sh> when i have some sparetime :) name the packages pls
[06:01] <raphink> hmm well
[06:01] <raphink> knmap, kio-sword, konq-kim, konq-utf8, kenigma
[06:01] <raphink> these should be fine
[06:02] <raphink> hopefully ;)
[06:04] <raphink> (not all of them of course... unless you have time for it)
[06:09] <\sh> raphink: did u solved the issue riddell was mentioning? with the not cleaned files in debian/ (knmap)
[06:09] <raphink> I don' tunderstan dthis issue
[06:09] <raphink> I don't see what's wrong with this, as I wrote
[06:10] <raphink> so if you can explain me, I'll fix it
[06:13] <\sh> raphink: looks like that some files are left out in debian/ which are not cleaned properly...i'll check it later...when amarok finished to build
[06:13] <raphink> oki
[06:13] <raphink> ok
[07:02] <\sh> amarok 1.3.6 is hitting the buildds
[07:06] <raphink> :)
[07:16] <Tm_T> :(
[07:18] <raphink> :D
[10:01] <Riddell> "Gwenview 1.3.1 is out"  any volunteers to package?
[10:01] <Riddell> Riddell: you pinged?
[10:04] <Tm_T> Riddell: you're talking to yourself? ;)
[10:05] <Riddell> hmm, ment to tab complete to raphink :)
[10:19] <\sh> hmmm
[10:19] <\sh> i wonder where amarok is hiding
[10:20] <Riddell> \sh: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/a/amarok/2:1.3.6-1ubuntu1/
[10:20] <Riddell> failed
[10:20] <Riddell> "cdbs: missing"
[10:20] <Riddell> guess the buildd's aren't in best shape at the moment
[10:20] <\sh> grmpf..why i don't see it on the normal buildd todays log
[10:21] <Riddell> ?
[10:21] <Riddell> that is the normal log
[10:21] <\sh> oh man...my browser's screwed
don't open more then 10 tabs at the same time</mindnote>
[10:22] <\sh> kdebase-dev: Depends: konqueror (= 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu4) but it is not going to be installed
[10:22] <\sh>   kdelibs4-dev: Depends: libsasl2-dev but it is not going to be installed
[10:22] <\sh>   libpq-dev: Depends: libssl0.9.7 but it is not installable
[10:22] <\sh>              Depends: libpq4 (= 8.1.0-2) but it is not going to be installed
[10:22] <\sh>   xmms-dev: Depends: xmms (= 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[10:23] <\sh> harhar
[10:24] <\sh> kdiff3 has the same issue


[01:20] <guiverc> Bashing-om, I read thru quickly, nothing stood out to me, but I kept being distracted so may not have been very thorough
[01:28] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Been through it twice - made one other edit - I rest my case :P
[01:29] <guiverc> :) thanks Bashing-om
[01:31] <Bashing-om> guiverc: What we do for ubuntu :P
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[20:41] <Bashing-om> UWN: "WIP" pulled - checked log and no firther edits are known. Time to push 21:00 UTC .
[21:00] <Bashing-om> UWN: ubuntu-news@lists is away - doing the Forum post next. :D
[21:03] <Bashing-om> UWN: Forun post done - no problems seen, Doing the re-directs next.
[21:07] <guiverc> okay to push #655 to fridge Bashing-om
[21:08] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Yup - All looks good :D Push to the Fridge too .
[21:11] <guiverc> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2020/11/02/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-655/
[21:14] <Bashing-om> UWN: Re-directs done - checking the Fridge post now :D
[21:16] <guiverc> tweeted
[21:17] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Fridge looks good - Make October Gdoc history now ?
[21:21] <guiverc> yep
[21:21] <Bashing-om> Doing :D
[21:28] <Bashing-om> UWN: We do issue 656 :D
[21:32]  * guiverc still struggling with fb.. finally found where I post..  finally posted !
[21:37] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Good man that you are :D Untill wildman gets squared away UWN wise, you are the first line of social media attack :D
[21:47] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: The Fridge: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 655 @ http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2020/11/02/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-655/
[21:56] <krytarik> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2020-October/001911.html - ugh, I forgot this should be included in this week's newsletter.. :3  (And since it wasn't cc'd to the team ML, I'm probably the only one between us who knew about it.)
[22:00] <guiverc> krytarik, we'll just add it to the wiki, I can add it to fridge..
[22:01] <krytarik> Or we can just include it this week instead..
[22:01] <guiverc> are you happy for that?
[22:02] <krytarik> Yeah, post-publish mangling of the newsletter is always a bit meh..
[22:04] <guiverc> :)
[22:08] <Bashing-om> krytarik: guiverc: I can re-adjust my time to make the ^ addition - considering the import - worthwhile to do, me thinks.
[22:09] <krytarik> If you both are fine with the extra work this entails, then yeah it'd be nice indeed.
[22:11] <Bashing-om> krytarik: These things happen :P guiverc Are you open 'Nuf to make the edit ?
[22:22] <guiverc> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue655   (skipped ref to rww/dax & on behalf of IRC council; Bashing-om look okay?)
[22:23] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Checking .
[22:24] <guiverc> added to fridge http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2020/11/02/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-655/
[22:27] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Me likes the better here than placing the notice in "Welcome New Members and Developers" as I had thought to - krytarik are you OK with this placement ?
[22:29] <krytarik> Yeah, I'm fine with either way really - just the way it is now, it's missing from the summary on the wiki page still, and I'd write "IRC channel" in the intro since that's only indicated by the link itself so far.
[22:31] <guiverc> :(  yeah IRC not being mentioned is a huge MISS
[22:31] <Bashing-om> guiverc: ^^ If you will oblige to make the edit - I will copy over your addition to the Forum post.
[22:32] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Will also need to update the "table of contents" .
[22:34] <guiverc> it's appearing in the table of contents on my screen.. & when opened in private mode... I suspect your viewing is altered by cached files maybe?
[22:35] <guiverc> then again, I don't see added IRC on private... looking again
[22:35] <krytarik> I'm guessing he means just as I, the issue summary aka "In this Issue"
[22:35] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Sorry I meant "In this Issue" listing :(
[22:36] <guiverc> okay, thanks... looking  (once I work out why IRC didn't show in my private)
[22:36] <guiverc> :) it does now
[22:36] <krytarik> Yep!
[22:38] <guiverc> try now.
[22:38] <krytarik> Good, thanks!
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[22:52] <krytarik> Bashing-om: Thanks too!
[22:53] <krytarik> (Yep, I've been watching the evolution of the forums page.)
[22:53] <Bashing-om> krytarik: guiverc: Forum post edited - and it is guiverc that did all the heavy lifting this time :P Thanks !
[22:54] <guiverc> as you regularly say Bashing-om , team effort !
[22:55] <Bashing-om> guiverc: :D
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[00:19] <gsilvapt> What can be done to fix an error returning something like Depends: libsnapd-qt-dev but it is not installable
[00:19] <gsilvapt> Is it wrong "versioning" of the dependency again?
[00:19] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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 @ahoneybun from a comment I read in -release, I think cyphermox is on vacation
 Ahh
 If I had known that I would have pinged someone else
 Muon seems to be working good here
 installs stuff fine and does not crash on shutdown
[05:37] <acheronuk> [14:48]  <seb128> slangasek, hey, do you know who could be pinged about nplan autopkgtests blocking the  n-m update in artful while cyphermox_ is on vac?
[05:50] <acheronuk> gsilvapt: that dep simply does does not exist in Xenial. have reverted it, as upstream fixed it so it's not asked for until we actually start building the snap backened for discover, and it's not ready yet so is set to 'off' for now
[05:58] <acheronuk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1447144
[06:00] <acheronuk> https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/04/13/%23kubuntu-devel.html#t02:04
[06:07] <valorie> dang, now I remember that conversation
[06:07] <valorie> I guess he forgot to fix, or push the fix
[07:31] <acheronuk> yofel: KCI = no space left on device o_O
[08:00] <lordievader> No monitoring?
[08:09] <acheronuk> run out of inodes? WTF
[08:21]  * acheronuk leaves that well alone
[08:30] <lordievader> Lots of small files?
[08:32] <acheronuk> presumably, but quite where I'm not sure.
[08:37] <acheronuk> hmmm.... too many build logs etc stored in /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/ maybe?
[08:37] <lordievader> Usually with lots of small files you will earlier run into the inode boundary than the file sizes.
[08:41] <acheronuk> well / has used 100% of it's inodes, with /dev/mapper/kubuntu--vg-root 3276800 3276800 0 100% /
[08:42] <acheronuk> file/dir count in /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/ is 2820873
[08:43] <lordievader> In that case you might consider putting that folder on a seperate volume.
[08:43] <acheronuk> so that is using 2.8M out of the 3.2M available inodes
[08:44] <lordievader> Then you can also tune the fs to allocate more inodes.
[08:44] <acheronuk> the workspaces are, but not the jobs folder it seems :/
[09:12] <sitter> acheronuk: https://plugins.jenkins.io/discard-old-build
[09:13] <sitter> in neon we simply have a timed job running that archives old builds onto a different disk
[09:15] <sitter> there is very little point in keeping builds that are months old available through jenkins. to that end, if one simply moves the actual numbered build dir to a different disk one can simply move it back in should one find the need to look at the data through the webui
 @acheronuk what do you mean with "revert"? Is it something I can do?
[09:23] <acheronuk> sitter: thanks. had just found that plugin. that or something like you also say sounds a good plan
[09:24] <acheronuk> gsilvapt: I did https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/discover/commit/?id=83fb9fdb776502f8fd72d2b3dab922a40bdb5fcf
[09:26] <hajix> hi there
[09:26] <hajix> how r u guys
[09:26] <hajix> any body is here for helping
[09:26] <hajix> im in elementary os with no liber office
[09:26] <hajix> and i download liber from the offical site
[09:26] <hajix> and then i extracted
[09:26] <hajix> but in the folder there is a lot of deb files
[09:26] <hajix> i dont know how to install
[09:26] <hajix> witch one to install
[09:26] <hajix> HELP!
[09:26] <acheronuk> gsilvapt: saying that, in unstable we can maybe build the plugin for now. I only set it not to build for stable/artful archive as the KDE developer advised it wasn't working properly yet
[09:27] <gsilvapt> So, basically you checked where that dependency was being used or you  checked when it was inserted and why, and since it isn't needed for the package itself, you decided it was a safe bet to remove it?
[09:28] <gsilvapt> hajix, this is not the right channel to ask for that kind of support. #libreoffice-channel should be it.
[09:28] <hajix> tnx for answer.
[09:29] <gsilvapt> Thanks for the explanation, acheronuk.
[09:29] <hajix> bot no body in this channle
[09:29] <acheronuk> gsilvapt: cmake was wanting it, so I added it, then thought "hey, this shouldn't be asked for if we are not building the snap backend", so I then asked the kde -dev if he should really only have cmake ask for that it the snap backend is set to build, yo which he agreed and made a change so it wasn't
[09:30] <gsilvapt> hajix, there's a bunch of ways to ask support for Libreoffice in https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/community-support/
[09:31] <acheronuk> gsilvapt: so he did https://cgit.kde.org/discover.git/commit/?id=1ff711c54630b665988a728d6318f06004d598ed
[09:31] <hajix> gsilvapt, thanks for helping
[09:31] <hajix> bye
[09:32] <gsilvapt> But if you downloaded the .deb file it is available in the website, you should be able to install it via software center (double-click) or via terminal (sudo dpkg -i /path/to/debFile
[09:32] <gsilvapt> Annddd, he is gone.
[09:32]  * acheronuk shrugs
[09:33] <gsilvapt> Ok, I see it. I'm trying to understand how I could have figure out this, so apologies for the questions :)
[09:35] <acheronuk> np. some of the things require a bit of knowledge of what has been done previously, and the reasoning behind it.
[09:36] <gsilvapt> Yes, I'm realizing that now
[09:37] <acheronuk> I suppose we could exhaustively document all the changes and decisions we make, but seems a bit OTT
[09:37] <acheronuk> being a bit more verbose in git commits might help
[09:39] <acheronuk> right. back later.
[09:39] <acheronuk> I've not touched any of those files on jenkins. If anyone more competent at server management wants to do so, please do!
[10:19] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:22] <acheronuk> sitter: if we as a stopgap were to use the built in discard old builds property, would something like this make sense in the build template? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24989309/
[14:24] <acheronuk> or yofel if around? ^^^
[14:34] <sitter> can't say, I am not using it. the values certainly look reasonable
[14:40] <acheronuk> sitter: thank you. fair point. at least knowing it doesn't look completely mad is helpful
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[15:27] <clivejo> I think the only way to sort it is the increase the inodes on the Filesystem?
[15:27] <clivejo> the KCI interface is totally locked up
[15:28] <acheronuk> clivejo: interface is ok here now for me
[15:28] <clivejo> you can log in?
[15:28] <acheronuk> yes
[15:28] <clivejo> ah, won't let me
[15:29] <clivejo> what device is the problem?
[15:29] <acheronuk> I couldn't earlier, but I deleted a few logs to free it up that much for me
[15:30] <clivejo> ah, Im in now
[15:30] <clivejo> you installed that plugin?
[15:30] <acheronuk> root!
[15:30] <acheronuk> nope
[15:30] <clivejo> I don't understand how the disks are setup
[15:31] <clivejo> some kind of raid
[15:31] <clivejo> sda, sdb, sdc, sdd
[15:31] <acheronuk> there is a built in version. Just not as configurable as the plugin Harald linked to
[15:32] <acheronuk> clivejo: http://i.imgur.com/yo1P2P7.png
[15:32] <acheronuk> the built in job option ^^^
[15:32] <clivejo> sdb looks like a mirror of sdd
[15:33] <clivejo> and sda = sdc
[15:34] <clivejo> we have plently of disk space
[15:37] <clivejo> weird
[15:37] <clivejo> /dev/mapper/kubuntu--vg-root                           3276800 3276564       236  100% /
[15:38] <clivejo> wereas all the workspace ones are low
[15:38] <clivejo> /dev/mapper/kubuntu--storage--vg-jenkins--workspaces   7864320  431820   7432500    6% /var/lib/jenkins/workspaces
[15:39] <clivejo> don't understand how this is configured
[15:40] <acheronuk> which is why I was just looking at maybe automating some job log clean up, until Phil can look
[16:19] <acheronuk>  /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/mgmt_tooling/builds/
[16:20] <acheronuk> contains 26,919 files!
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[18:58] <ahoneybun> acheronuk: http://www.ocsmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/nomad-settings.png
[18:58] <ahoneybun> is that the new settings or did they make their own?
 the new KDE one I think
 ahh nice
[19:51] <ronnoc> Nice! There's not 154 acres of un-used real eastate :-)
[19:54] <ronnoc> Looks like Discover...using Kirigami I assume? Consistency is a Good Thing™
 correct. systemsettings in master has been porred to kirigami for that list view style
 *ported
[19:57] <ronnoc> very nice indeed
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[21:53] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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