[00:00] <staind9383> i see
[00:00] <majoridiot> i've breezed over the code a bit, but major and positive changes
[00:00] <staind9383> good to hear
[00:00] <staind9383> setting up firewire has become much less of a pain in the ass over the past year
[00:01] <staind9383> maybe that has been because i've installed myth so many different time out of frustration
[00:01] <majoridiot> staind9383, that's a typical reaction.  reinstall-syndrome.
[00:01] <staind9383> i'm used to reinstalling myt/linux  completely when something goes completely fubar and i dont know how to fix.. that was my approach for a good while
[00:01] <majoridiot> in most cases, it's overreaction ;)
[00:02] <staind9383> i blame it on my lack of linux knowledge
[00:02] <majoridiot> so LEARN, man... LOL!
[00:02] <staind9383> haha
[00:02] <majoridiot> ;)
[00:02] <staind9383> yeam working on it
[00:02] <staind9383> still stuck on xp on my maion computer / work computer
[00:02] <staind9383> as my typing abilities break down
[00:03]  * majoridiot is forced into XP @ work... and for very few things @ home
[00:04] <majoridiot> staind9383, you are using the p2p firewire primer, correct?
[00:04] <staind9383> i use it on my main comp because of games (which i pay much less of now the ni did in college) and several win only devices like tha harmony remote, ipod (although i guess there is alternatives to itunes now) etc
[00:04] <staind9383> yes
[00:04] <majoridiot> will your stb give you any success with broadcast?  or is it total failure?
[00:05] <staind9383> never tried really... the guide that i had been following to set it up seemed to suggest that p2p was a better option if you could get it to work
[00:05] <staind9383> brb fast
[00:06] <ahave> hello room. anyone here have an antec fusion black 430 case?
[00:09] <LuvRedheads> no but feel free to send me one ;)
[00:10] <staind9383> ahave: no but i have the nsk2480... same design more or less i believe
[00:10] <staind9383> minus the gadgets on the front
[00:11] <ahave> no IR?
[00:11] <staind9383> no, it does not have a knob or lcd or ir, just the usb and stereo connections i think
[00:12] <staind9383> http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=92480
[00:12] <staind9383> because of this case, i am only going to build silent pcs from now on.... seriously the loudest part of that pc is the psu fan
[00:20] <frank23> I just read about the new Hauppauge HD capture card that is coming out soon. It takes a component signal up to 1080p and outputs a h264 stream.
[00:21] <frank23> It looks very nice. Now I just wonder how long it's gonna take until cable companies completely plug the analog hole
[00:22] <staind9383> until i heard about that from majoridiot, i thought that type of card was not going to come out... i was under the impression that cablecard was gonna be the industry's main tool so to speak
[00:23] <frank23> staind9383: yeah. apparently other manufacturers are gonna release devices like this too
[00:23] <staind9383> nice
[00:24] <frank23> staind9383: what remains to be seen is how much quality is lost in the recompressiion
[00:25] <staind9383> yea, we'll see
[00:53] <Stemming78> how do I check what kernel I have loaded
[00:53] <Stemming78> /or what kernel loads w/ 7.10
[00:54] <tgm4883_laptop> uname -a
[00:55] <cropalat> uname -r
[00:56] <Stemming78> thanks guys
[01:19] <TelnetManta> can anyone help me figure out WHY php files will not process on my ubuntu/apache system????
[01:20] <Stemming78> I think I found something for my epia M1000 (CLE266) to enable DRI --> can someone look at this; was created and tested on Dapper
[01:21] <Stemming78> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-184512.html
[01:46] <Stemming78> Ok, finally I think I found a fix...  How to install is the question; http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4930
[01:47] <Stemming78> Anyone help with this one?  have the "patch" file but unsure how to apply
[01:48] <Stemming78> This is in reference to getting my smooth playback of video on my Epia CLE266 chipset
[02:32] <tgm4883_laptop> Stemming78, do you use 8.04?
[03:00] <iconoclast88> anyone here tonite?
[03:01] <iconoclast88> im having an issue that is rather peculiar.
[03:03] <superm1> !ask
[03:03] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[03:20] <staind9383> anyone know why the channel icon download does not work in the mythtv setup in .21?
[03:20] <staind9383> the button is greyed out
[03:20] <staind9383> and i am using a firewire card
[03:20] <staind9383> if that makes a difference
[03:20] <rhpot1991> odd, mine works just fine
[03:20] <rhpot1991> tuner shouldn't matter as its based on your listing sources
[03:21] <staind9383> yea, its based on the schedules direct source
[03:21] <staind9383> i beleive
[03:21] <staind9383> lemme double checl
[03:21] <tgm4883_laptop> where is this button?
[03:22] <rhpot1991> tgm4883_laptop: channel editor screen in mythtv-setup
[03:22] <staind9383> in myth backend setup
[03:22] <rhpot1991> it sure is nice
[03:22] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[03:22] <rhpot1991> compared to the old way you did icons
[03:22] <tgm4883_laptop> :(
[03:22] <staind9383> well i never did icons the old way
[03:22] <tgm4883_laptop> i cannot check that out for 3 more hours
[03:23] <rhpot1991> staind9383: it wasn
[03:23] <staind9383> yea, in the channel editor screen all my channels are listed, but the channel scanner and icon download buttons are greyed out
[03:23] <tgm4883_laptop> bah, i can't get the 360 to see the test file I placed in any other dir than the Videos dir
[03:23] <rhpot1991> wasn't too nice
[03:24] <staind9383> tgm: trying to use a 360 as an extension to myth?
[03:25] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[03:25] <rhpot1991> tgm4883_laptop: that with myth itself or ushare?
[03:25] <tgm4883_laptop> rhpot1991, ushare
[03:25] <staind9383> i dont even know what would cause the icon to grey out :(
[03:26] <rhpot1991> staind9383: are you sure you still have sources for your listings?
[03:26] <rhpot1991> internet, subscription and so on
[03:26] <staind9383> what do you mean
[03:26] <staind9383> schedules direct updates every day
[03:26] <rhpot1991> your SD info, is it still in there
[03:26] <tgm4883_laptop> WTF?
[03:26] <tgm4883_laptop> bah, this is so confusing
[03:26] <staind9383> yea, it is in there
[03:28] <staind9383> is it normal for myth to search for smltv grabbers when you go into your sources in .21?
[03:28] <staind9383> *xmltv
[03:29] <rhpot1991> sweet hodgman on the daily show tonight (rerun though)
[03:29] <staind9383> dammit, missed it
[03:30] <tgm4883_laptop> I must have something wrong in the ushare config
[03:30] <rhpot1991> tgm4883_laptop: is ushare available in hardy?  or is that more work?
[03:30] <tgm4883_laptop> good question, idk let me check
[03:31] <staind9383> do i need to install something else other then the myth packages to get channel icons?
[03:31] <staind9383> think that i have xmltv
[03:31] <tgm4883_laptop> yes, 1.1a is available in hardy
[03:31] <rhpot1991> staind9383: nope SD should work OOB
[03:31] <staind9383> blah
[03:32] <staind9383> its always something i guess
[03:32] <staind9383> it can never be perfect
[03:33] <staind9383> i need a better nick...i'm tired of this stupid name
[03:35] <tgm4883_laptop> fook me
[03:35] <tgm4883_laptop> rhpot1991, take a look at this
[03:36] <tgm4883_laptop> http://fuppes.ulrich-voelkel.de/
[03:37] <rhpot1991> I recall seeing that somewhere
[03:37] <rhpot1991> available in hardy?
[03:38] <tgm4883_laptop> nope
[03:41] <staind9383> hmmm.. the covenant in hd
[03:41] <staind9383> supposedly one of hte worst movies ever
[03:41] <staind9383> think that i might have to record it
[03:42] <staind9383> only because one person in it was in my freshman dorm in college
[07:01] <Stemming78> anyone still on?
[08:06] <Dogmea1> Any one here had any success getting a MCE keyboard going under Mythbuntu?
[08:19] <Stemming78> Dogmea1: try this thread:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=592057
[08:19] <Stemming78> Taken from: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-350009.html should you need to resource back...
[08:20] <Stemming78> I have not tried it, but thought it could point you in the correct direction
[08:38] <Dogmea1> Thanks, Ive been through the forums with limited success, I can only ether get the remote part going or the keyboard/mouse, but not both together?
[10:10] <[nrx]> hi folks. I've just upgraded my box with a apt-get upgrade and my sound no longer works. Anyone fancy lending me a hand to sort it? I don't really know where to start
[10:11] <directhex|bsp> upgraded from what to what?
[10:11] <[nrx]> well, i installed it from the mythbuntu download... and for a few weeks it's been flashing up about upgrades/updates.. so this morning, i simply ran apt-get upgrade and it downloade approx 15mb of stuff
[10:12] <[nrx]> it then wanted a reboot.. which i did.. and here we are
[10:12] <[nrx]> vague, I know, sorry :/
[10:13] <directhex|bsp> so which version are you currently running? check the file /etc/issue
[10:13] <[nrx]> 7.10
[10:14] <directhex|bsp> and have you lost sound generally, or only in mythtv?
[10:15] <[nrx]> generally. I went into the system prefs.. where you can 'test' the sounds? And nothing comes through
[10:15] <[nrx]> i've just fired up mythtv too and there's also no sound
[10:16] <[nrx]> update managers coming up again saying there's updates
[10:16] <[nrx]> ugh
[10:16] <[nrx]> need to get a keyboard plugged in. brb
[10:19] <[nrx]> it's wanting the friggen CD in the drive :o
[10:19] <directhex|bsp> you can disable that
[10:20] <directhex|bsp> system/administration/software sources, go to the "third party software" tab and disable the cdrom entry
[10:23] <[nrx]> thanks :) it's running the updates now
[10:26] <[nrx]> okily day
[10:27] <[nrx]> reboot and we shall see if sound is back
[10:27] <[nrx]> :/
[10:28] <[nrx]> i forgot i'd turned the volume up
[10:28] <[nrx]> i need to go change my underwear
[10:28] <[nrx]> ...sounds working
[10:30] <[nrx]> thanks directhex|bsp :)
[11:36] <EvilGuru> I am about to switch between a GF4 and a GF 6200, what do I need to do driver wise?
[11:36] <EvilGuru> As the nvidia drivers which support GF4 cards are a lot older than those which support a 6200
[11:37] <EvilGuru> however, I am unsure how ubuntu differentiates between driver versions
[11:39] <directhex|bsp> EvilGuru, there are three drivers in ubuntu - nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-glx-new
[11:39] <EvilGuru> I guess the best bet is for me to boot-up with my current card, remove the nvidia drivers, change the card, then select proprietary ones again
[11:41] <directhex|bsp> that's one option, i suppose
[11:41] <directhex|bsp> although...
[11:41] <directhex|bsp> the 6200 is supported by all three drivers.
[11:41] <directhex|bsp> you don't *need* newer drivers for it
[11:42] <directhex|bsp> you can, optionally, replace nvidia-glx-whatever with nvidia-glx-new if you want the latest version
[11:42] <directhex|bsp> geforce 4 is supported by nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-legacy
[11:43] <EvilGuru> I always like to go with the newest available drivers
[11:43] <EvilGuru> (unless they cause a problem, in which case I'll downgrade)
[11:44] <directhex|bsp> well, you have the data you need. the new card will boot up with the existing driver unmodified, what you do subsequently is your choice
[12:15] <EvilGuru> Hmm, I get an API mis-match between the driver and the kernel source, how can I force install the newest kernel module for nvidia?
[12:18] <EvilGuru> If I try to remove the kernel module it wants to get rid of half of the kernel:   linux-generic linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-12-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic nvidia-glx-new nvidia-kernel-common
[12:28] <EvilGuru> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/107646 was the problem (seems a bit 'hack'-ish)
[12:30] <laga> so you probably want to add a "me too" there ;)
[12:51] <EvilGuru> now, lets see if I can get TV out working on this card
[12:59] <Rigolo> laga: is there a script to convert a .diff (patch file) to a dpatch file? or should I just use dpatch-edit-patch and then apply the patch etc etc etc
[12:59] <laga> i have never used dpatch-edit-patch
[12:59] <laga> i usually copy and edit an existing patch
[13:00] <Rigolo> so use a existing dpatch patch as a "template" and manually rewrite the .diff patch to a dpatch patch?
[13:02] <laga> a dpatch is just a normal -p1 patch with a special header
[13:03] <Rigolo> okee .. so that should not be too difficult then ...
[13:03] <Rigolo> just copy the header from an other .. and change what needs to be changed
[13:04] <laga> yep
[13:04] <Rigolo> okee .... I will try that
[13:55] <sabhain> is XvMC enabled in standard Mythbuntu packages (pulled for Gutsy from repositories)?
[13:55] <sabhain> seem to find conflicting information on the topic at ubuntu forums / google
[13:55] <directhex|bsp> it's compiled against libxvmc, but needs explicit enabling in 2 places
[13:55] <sabhain> and can't manage to get xvmc behavior to work (never got greyscale osd)
[13:56] <directhex|bsp> xvmc isn't a goal, it's a last resort
[13:56] <sabhain> agreed on that ..
[13:56] <sabhain> but i'm getting a frame drop every 2-3 seconds on SD (analog even) playback
[13:57] <sabhain> but when I playback the same file within xine or mplayer w/ xvmc .. runs smooth
[13:58] <sabhain> very annoying .. I'm the only one that sees it .. but it drives me nuts .. and I haven't yet started HD capture
[13:58] <sabhain> so where do I find those "2 places" to explicitly enable it.
[14:03] <sabhain> the obvious one is in the frontend setup /Playback/TV .. etc
[14:03] <sabhain> and I've added the file to the /etc/X11/XvMCConfig
[14:03] <sabhain> no soup for me
[14:06] <iconoclast88> my media folder shares stopped "sharing" when i installed nautilus. hopw do i get them back?
[14:09] <directhex|bsp> sabhain, what gpu/driver are you using?
[14:14] <sabhain> i've only been able to get stable xorg display using the driver directly from nvidia
[14:15] <sabhain> i pretty much have to disable / uninstall the provided proprietary driver to avoid it loading in "safe mode"
[14:15] <sabhain> but clearly I'll use anything if I can get it stable .. the nvidia.com seemed to best thus far
[14:16] <directhex|bsp> the open-source driver does not include xvmc support, and the .run file from nvidia.com is unsupported specifically because it places files like the xvmc libs in the wrong place
[14:16] <directhex|bsp> which is the very reason for the existence of packaged proprietary drivers
[14:17] <sabhain> hmmm .. then how am I able to run xine / mplayer w/ xvmc or xxmc?  strange ...
[14:18] <sabhain> can I symlink to the xvmc libs?
[14:19] <directhex|bsp> if you've used the nvidia .run file, i really don't feel any ability to help. your system is in an unknown, inconsistent state
[14:20] <laga> yeah
[14:20] <laga> use envy-ng
[14:20] <sabhain> ok .. so I'm back to running w/ the proprietary, that's fine, so long as I can find the magic trick to get it to run in anything but 640x480
[14:21] <laga> even going back to the proprietary driver won't remove the stuff from the .run installer automaically
[14:21] <directhex|bsp> laga, or ever. there's no clean way to remove nvidia-installer
[14:21] <EvilGuru> I have just got myself a Nova-T 500, however, I read that it has problems with 2.6.24 (which is what 8.04 uses), can anyone advise?
[14:21] <sabhain> I can do a full re-do .. this is a new install anyway ..
[14:22] <directhex|bsp> sabhain, what's your gpu?
[14:22] <Rigolo> directhex|bsp: I know a clean way ... reinstall
[14:22] <laga> EvilGuru: the nova-t 500 has had problems with all kernel versions AFAIK ;)
[14:22] <sabhain> its onboard an MSI P6NGM board, I believe GeForce 7100
[14:22] <directhex|bsp> EvilGuru, disable usb autosuspend, disable eit, and rebuild your initrd
[14:22] <EvilGuru> Just been poking around the linuxtv wiki and it says that > 2.6.21 is okay, but 2.6.24 re-introduces some issue
[14:22] <laga> sabhain: i'd suggest you go with 8.04 beta, the mythtv builds should have good xvmc support (if not, file a bug report!) and the nvidia driver will be newer
[14:22] <directhex|bsp> sabhain, should be supported fine by the nvidia-glx-new in gutsy
[14:22]  * EvilGuru googles
[14:23] <sabhain> yeah .. it senses it ok .. there's not really an issue with it there, but there's limited or no ability to configure it ..
[14:24] <directhex|bsp> displayconfig-gtk is junk
[14:24] <laga> directhex|bsp: true.
[14:24] <laga> directhex|bsp: i hope the xrandr stuff in hardy will be better..
[14:24] <directhex|bsp> install and use nvidia-settings, for great justice
[14:27] <sabhain> ok .. there's where I probably wasted 2 weeks of my life .. I went to the nvidia.com driver because I wanted the nvidia-settings app
[14:27] <sabhain> sabhain = idiot
[14:30] <exw> i really can't tell from mythbuntu.org but does Mythbuntu 8.04 include 0.21 or 20.2?
[14:31] <directhex|bsp> 0.21
[14:32] <exw> directhex|bsp: ok thanks
[14:54] <Rigolo> laga: how can I fix the version of a package with the buildscript? now it tells me: 0.21.0~fixes16831-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu1 is less then 0.21.0-0ubuntu4
[14:54] <directhex|bsp> it is.
[14:54] <directhex|bsp> version0~foo is lower than version0
[14:54] <laga> Rigolo: look for DELIM or DELIMITTER and change it to + instead of ~
[14:54] <directhex|bsp> version0+foo is higher than version0, hence laga's solution
[14:55] <Rigolo> okee. That is also the default in generate_source_package
[14:55] <Rigolo> but the my_trunk script overrides it
[15:02] <MythbuntuGuest48> i recently upgraded my backend to hardy and am using the gutsy-backport for one of my frontends, my other frontend i upgraded to hardy as well but am having trouble with the sound
[15:03] <MythbuntuGuest48> the sound worked fine before the upgrade, lspci -v gives me a Capabilities: <access denied> for everythging unless i use sudo, not sure if this is normal or not
[15:04] <Rigolo> laga: as far as I can see should there be no problem with the patch from bug 3640 with the current source. Only dvbstreamdata.cpp was changed after this patch, but not the sections that need to be patched. Even the line numbers look ok to me. So now I will try to turn it into a dpatch and see if I can compile it.
[15:04] <MythbuntuGuest48> alsamixer returns the error alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[15:06] <MythbuntuGuest48> any ideas from those in the know?
[15:06] <laga> MythbuntuGuest48: file a bug report i'd say..
[15:07] <laga> MythbuntuGuest48: cat /proc/asound/cards <- what does that say?
[15:08] <MythbuntuGuest48> cat: /proc/asound/cards: No such file or directory
[15:08] <laga> MythbuntuGuest48: your sound card isn't recognized then
[15:11] <MythbuntuGuest48> how to get it recognized? im guessing this is more of a hardy issue than mythbuntu issue, would it be better for me to ask elsewhere or do you know where i could start with this problem?
[15:11] <laga> MythbuntuGuest48: try #ubuntu+1
[15:12] <MythbuntuGuest48> ok im using your browser based chat client from your support page and am not that familliar with irc, what command to open that room?
[15:13] <laga> MythbuntuGuest48: /join #ubuntu+1
[15:13] <MythbuntuGuest48> ok thanks for your help
[15:19] <TehSnarf> Is there a doc somewhere that tells me what key does what on a keyboard?
[15:19] <TehSnarf> or how to set up macro's on a remote?
[15:31] <foxbuntu> TehSnarf, mythweb has all of the keys listed under settings
[15:31] <TehSnarf> fantastic
[16:24] <Rigolo> laga: when I do a bzr commit I get an error about http not supporting mkdir ?? How do I make my local changes permanent so that the build script can use my local branch instead of the launchpad one
[16:25] <laga> Rigolo: how do you bzr commit?
[16:25] <laga> Rigolo: maybe you need to bzr unbind
[16:25] <Rigolo> laga: I'm in the mythtv-fixes dir .. and do bzr commit :-) ..bzr unbind makes a really local copy I guess?
[16:26] <Rigolo> bzr status gives me one added file (my dpatch) and one modified (00list) so that looks ok
[16:26] <laga> yeah, i think so
[16:27] <Rigolo> laga: I'm now on revision 81 :-)
[16:28] <Rigolo> so that unbind seems to work :-)
[16:29] <Rigolo> mmm just a new revision from mythtv ... so svn is downloading the whole tree again :-(
[16:29] <laga> huh
[16:29] <laga> no it's not, it's updating
[16:29] <laga> unless the script is broken
[16:30] <Rigolo> the dir under my_work has the revision number in it
[16:30] <Rigolo> mythtv-0.21.0+fixes16832 that is the dir now ....
[16:30] <Rigolo> maybe because I changed to the + as the delimiter?
[16:37] <laga> yeah, probably
[16:40] <Rigolo> laga: looks like it is picking up my changes now .. :-)
[16:41] <laga> great
[16:41] <Rigolo> laga: now wait to see if it will build ... first it needs to download myth-plugins
[16:41]  * Rigolo is happy that his provider upgraded the speed to 12Mbit :-)
[16:42] <laga> ;)
[16:43] <Rigolo> laga: do you really need to do a bzr commit? or could you add the patch and try it out before commiting?
[16:46] <laga> where?
[16:47] <Rigolo> when you have made a change to a patch for example, can you then use that straight away? ie does the buildscript pick up those changes? or do you really need to do a bzr commit first before those changes are picked up by the script?
[16:49] <laga> depends. if you make them in-place, you wont need that. if the build script has to bzr checkout/update them first, then you need to bzr commit in that separate branch before
[16:49] <Rigolo> laga: okee, I thought so already
[16:59] <Rigolo> ggrrr ... patch 12 is failing again .. I will just remove it from my version :-)
[17:00] <laga> and commit ;)
[17:01] <Rigolo> just did ... version 82 now
[17:02] <Rigolo> got a failure on plugins also ... Dependency is not satisfiable: libmyth-dev
[17:03] <laga> in pbuilder?
[17:04] <Rigolo> yep
[17:04] <Rigolo> using gdebi to check deps
[17:05] <laga> you need to set up the D70results hook..
[17:05] <Rigolo> mm the second run gives this message: Using saved location: /home/mythbuntu/mythtv-fixes/ bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "/home/mythbuntu/mythtv-fixes/".
[17:06] <Rigolo> that is correct because it should be /home/mythbuntu/mythbuntu/mythtv-fixes
[17:06] <Rigolo> why did it loose the second mythbuntu?
[17:09] <Rigolo> laga: that D70results is just adding the lines mentioned here: http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/software/pbuilder-doc/pbuilder-doc.html#usingspecialaptsources to your pbuilderrc right?
[17:17] <laga> Rigolo: you also need to bind-mount your result dir
[17:18] <laga> it's all documented in the ubuntu wiki IIRC
[17:20] <Rigolo> I'm just reading that at the moment :-)
[17:23] <TehSnarf> is there a weekly build repository for .21 for Hardy?
[17:23] <laga> no, not yet
[17:24] <laga> a 21-fixes build will be pushed to hardy soon, though
[17:29]  * Rigolo needs to cook dinner .... I will continue tonight :-)
[17:30] <Rigolo> renamed the second mythbuntu dir to bzr ... let see if bzr remembers that :-)
[17:52] <ajh> I had myth working on my hardware a while ago but just re-installed using 7.10 and the included packages and I'm having a couple issues I hope someone can shed some light on.  I'm using a Nova DVB-S card, and when I try to view live tv I'm getting an unable to display error and an exit.
[17:52] <ajh> It's very hard to tell if it's the dvb drivers, nvidia, or something else.
[17:53] <ajh> any idea where to start would be helpful and appreciated.
[17:55] <Rigolo> can you watch dvb-s channels using xine or mplayer? is your channels.conf correct? etc
[17:55] <laga> ajh: /var/log/mythtv/
[17:55] <ajh> the channels get EIT data fine.
[17:55] <Rigolo> so first check if dvb-s is working outside of mythtv
[17:55] <ajh> how would I export my channels from myth into a channels.conf?
[17:56] <Rigolo> no, make a channels.conf outside of myth ... as described on the linuxtv.org dvb wiki
[17:56] <ajh> I was looking at that, I don't think I have enough information to do it though.
[17:57] <ajh> I did manage to get myth to though, so if I can use that data.
[17:57] <Rigolo> why not?
[17:57] <ajh> I'll have to look again, it was late, and got a new puppy 2 weeks ago, so I haven't gotten more than 2h of sleep at at time for the last 2 weeks :)
[17:58] <Rigolo> ajh: then get your sleep when you can :-) ... laga suggested to have a look at /var/log/mythtv and see what error messages you get in the logs
[17:59] <ajh> Ah, I see the error now in the logs.  DevRdb(1) Error: Problem reading fd(23) eno: Bad address: (14) but I'm not sure if that's before or after sasc crashes.
[18:00] <Rigolo> eeuhh ... you know that sasc is not supported here ...
[18:00] <ajh> yeah, I'm not expecting support for that, though my use is legit.
[18:01] <ajh> I'm also seeing SVBSignalMonitor(1)::constructor(2.,Warning, can not count Uncorrected Blocks): Operation Not Supported
[18:01] <ajh> followed by: DTVSM(1) Error: Wrong PMT; pmt->pn(71) desired(238)
[18:02] <ajh> then stuff about being unable to properly create the recording file, which I assume is fine if it's not getting content.
[18:02]  * Rigolo has to go ... dinner is served ....
[18:02] <ajh> I'll try to get a channels.conf created.
[18:10] <ajh> So, does myth violate the tivo patent on record and watch?
[18:11] <ajh> Bell's refusing to disclose if they've licensed it or not.
[18:11] <ajh> I'm assuming myth is fine since it records then watches vs watching one while recording another.
[18:13] <ajh> Anyone feel like running a mythtv mini-conf before the Linux Symposium in July?
[18:13] <ajh> We're working on getting more userspace apps involved.
[19:06] <Rigolo> ggrrr ... my dpatch failed :-(
[19:08] <Rigolo> how can I check what is going wrong?
[20:11] <kenzu> hey
[20:13] <kenzu> Anyone with a epia motherboard? I'am having problems with my epia m10000 (cle266) and mythbuntu 8.04 beta. Can't get video working. I think the default driver has changed from via (7.10) to openchrome (8.04).
[20:20] <kenzu> silence.... :-(
[20:23] <Stemming78> kenzu:  I am trying to get mine to work on 7.10 - did you have success with it?  I am experiencing choppy playback watching recordings and Live TV
[20:25] <Stemming78> Also, you are on Hardy now?  This may help you:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
[20:30] <Kenzu> Stemming78: Yes it's working fine on 7.10 with xserver-xorg-video-via driver.
[20:31] <rhpot1991> Kenzu: play with the playback profiles
[20:31] <rhpot1991> you prob want slim or cpu00
[20:31] <rhpot1991> cpu--
[20:32] <Kenzu> rhpot1991: I have played with that, but I can't even get picture in livetv. My machine just reboots or go black
[20:33] <Kenzu> And now after an update It will not show me any picture at all on my screen after the ubuntu-splash startup thing.
[20:33] <rhpot1991> sounds like you have a problem with your video drivers, have you checked dmest/syslog/xorg logs and so on
[20:34] <Kenzu> I can't check anything after the update
[20:35] <Kenzu> If I put an old ATI pci card in it starts normal
[20:36] <iulius> After installing mythbuntu 8.04
[20:36] <iulius> ... oops hehe
[20:37] <Kenzu> ok... booting live cd and installing -> boot up (xorg working normal with openchrome driver (but not in mythtv)) downloading all updates -> reboot -> nothing working
[20:38] <iulius>  After installing mythbuntu 8.04, it comes up with links to "mythbuntu livecd frontend" - when I'm booting off of the hard drive. Is that normal? In the 7.10 version it would go directly into mythfrontend
[20:38] <Kenzu> If I then put an old ati card in it boots normal
[20:39] <Stemming78> Kenzu: I am not an expert by any means, but I would try the driver from openchromes website and/or check the bug report...  Link from what I gave you earlier.
[20:40] <Stemming78> It is specific to Hardy pkg
[20:40] <Kenzu> I use that driver
[20:41] <Kenzu> on 7.10 it was xorg-via
[20:42] <Stemming78> Are you using the xorg.conf file from the 7.10?
[20:44] <Stemming78> Possibly check this over the xorg.conf you currently have:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-openchrome/+bug/197514
[20:45] <Stemming78> user was too having issues w/ video going out
[20:53] <Stemming78> Kenzu:  If this is still failing, I would suggest opening a bug report at openchrome
[20:55] <Kenzu> thanks... ill try
[22:44] <Stemming78> Afternoon,  my Backend IP address will not stay in General Setup;  keeps reverting to "local host".  Anyway to set it from terminal?
[23:51] <zorglups2> Hi there... I'm not new at all in *nix but always worked with servers in console mode. I'm now playing with a mythtv setup (Mythbuntu) and have a strange issue.
[23:51] <zorglups2> I did the complete setup connecting the server to my 22" LCD and had everything nicely displayed.
[23:51] <zorglups2> The last step was to move the server and hook it to the TV set (42" LCD).
[23:51] <zorglups2> The connectivity is the same (VGA) and I did all my configurations to match the TV max resolution.
[23:51] <zorglups2> I get a really strange thing: The display shows a quite big green cast. I first thought that my VGA cable had a broken pin and changed it. The same 'green' image came up.
[23:51] <zorglups2> I would understand having resolution or frequency mismatch but color ???
[23:51] <zorglups2> Any idea ?
[23:52] <zorglups2> I must says that xorg.conf is driving me crazy...
[23:59] <free1> If I have a usb tuner with a phillips chipset, would that work in myth?


[11:52] <RzR> hi
[11:52] <RzR> I need support to updage my gpg key
[11:52] <RzR> the associated email of my obsolete key is not working anymore
[11:52] <RzR> I can easly prove my identify
[11:52] <RzR><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:53] <RzR> is same as
[11:53] <RzR><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:53] <RzR> so my problem is that LP uses gna.org which is no more online
[11:53] <RzR> so update instructions will never be recieved
[11:54] <RzR> can anyone help to fwd to the other sf.net email ?
[12:02] <cjwatson> RzR: I'm not working today, but it would be best to open a ticket on https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad (if your LP account is working) or by emailing<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(otherwise), so that your request isn't missed
[12:39] <RzR> ok
[12:39] <RzR> hi cjwatson
[12:39] <RzR> sorry I can file ticket
[12:39] <RzR> it's not critical
[12:40] <RzR> enjoy summer :)
[12:44] <RzR> cjwatson, https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/692179 it's done, thanks for the suggestion anyway


[03:03] <jyo> pleia2, rww: Are we planning on doing Henry's after UH tomorrow?
[03:42] <rww> did anyone take an extra USB 3 and power cable home with them after SCaLE? i can't find the cables for my backup external drive :\
[03:43] <ianorlin> my usb 3 hard drives are 2.5 inches and don't use a power cable
[03:43] <rww> jyo: Bay Area Debian mailing list implies not, no meeting announcement
[04:00] <jose> pleia2, rww: all good with the fire on the bay area?
[04:01] <rww> there's a fire on the bay area?
[04:01] <jose> yes
[04:01] <jose> my dad's just telling me on the phone :P
[04:01] <rww> oh, San Francisco. yep, I'm not near there
[04:01] <jose> oh, well :)
[05:15] <nhaines> rww: I did not notice extra cables but I will double-check.
[05:16] <nhaines> rww: nope.
[16:32] <pleia2> jyo: not planning on doing dinner (busy week for me, have to get home)
[16:33] <pleia2> jose: I saw the smoke while walking to the train, and it smelled like burned stuff all night, but it was just an under construction building, a bummer but no one was hurt http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/13094746813/
[16:33] <darthrobot> Title: [San Francisco haz fire :( | Flickr - Photo Sharing!]
[16:34] <jose> wow
[16:34] <jose> well, at least you're ok :)
[16:34] <pleia2> yeah, all is well
[16:44] <pleia2> jyo: oh, but mpaoli will be hosting a debian dinner! http://bad.debian.net/list/2014-March/003587.html
[16:44] <darthrobot> Title: [ANNOUNCEMENT: BAD meeting: 7:05 P.M. @ Hernry's Hunan, 110 Natoma, SF]
[19:10] <rww> and therefore I will be there, since I only sit on BART for an hour if I'm going to get decent food and more nerdtime than an hour :P
[19:12] <nhaines> UDS keynote in progress: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22220/keynote-mark-shuttleworth/
[19:12] <darthrobot> Title: [Keynote, Mark Shuttleworth - | The Summit Scheduler]
[19:19] <pleia2> rww: hehe
[19:22] <raevol> \o/
[19:22] <raevol> shuttleworth says everything the way i don't say it
[19:22] <raevol> "cute" for QT and "zoobuntu" for xubuntu
[19:23] <pleia2> hehe
[19:23] <pleia2> he mentioned xubuntu :D
[19:23] <pleia2> (I'm not watching)
[19:23] <pleia2> will later
[19:24] <nhaines> raevol: shuttlewoth pronounces "ubuntu" wrong.  Also "oneiric"!
[19:24] <pleia2> I pronounce ubuntu wrong too, I just tell everyone it's my american accent
[19:24] <pleia2> (true story)
[19:26] <nhaines> I speak too many languages now to use that as an excuse.
[19:26] <pleia2> :)
[19:26] <nhaines> pleia2: at my last contract I was reading "KVM Best Practices", which is fantastic... but in German only.
[19:26] <pleia2> time for a translation!
[19:27] <nhaines> I was reading a section out loud to my colleague, but in English, and he stopped me... apparently I had some really strong German accent and he'd never heard that from me before.
[19:27] <pleia2> haha
[19:27] <pleia2> that happened to me in mexico, even though my spanish is really bad
[19:29] <nhaines> I can translate simple sentences just fine, but it was this really complicated formal technical German and my brain being in German mode took so much time that my brain started dropping English cycles.
[19:29] <pleia2> yeah
[19:34] <nhaines> sabdfl answered the question "What's with the beard?"
[19:34] <rww> raevol: Cute and (i think) zoobuntu are correct :P
[19:34]  * nhaines smells another OMG!   They're how I say them.  :P
[19:37] <pleia2> rww: yeah
[19:42] <rww> KDE is cute ^.^
[20:09] <nhaines> Well, that's another keynote done.
[20:10]  * pleia2 waits for the nhaines summary
[20:11] <nhaines> Convergence good; things that aren't purple or orange bad.
[20:12] <pleia2> hehe
[20:14] <bltz> everythings coming up milhouse
[20:18] <ianorlin> RMS's Spanish is easy to understand
[20:18] <bltz> it's the beard
[23:33] <raevol> https://openmw.org/2014/openmw-0-29-0-released/
[23:33] <darthrobot> Title: [OpenMW 0.29.0 Released | OpenMW, Open source Elderscrolls III: Morrowind reimplementation, Morrowind remake, Morrowind remade,]
[23:33] <ianorlin> I don't have the oringal data files though :(
[23:33] <raevol> looks like someone went a little seo happy with our WP title....
[23:33] <raevol> ianorlin: steam!
[23:34] <ianorlin> so morrowind is old how good graphics does it need?
[23:35] <raevol> hmm, so morrowind ran fine on my PC in like 2002, but OpenMW is a new engine, and more specifically, isn't optimized yet, so we don't really have an idea of the system requirements
[23:35] <raevol> it definitely runs a little slow right now, especially in exteriors, but it'll definitely run way better when we hit 1.0
[23:36] <ianorlin> of comps that are mine the best I have is intel integrated graphics from 4 and half years ago
[23:40] <raevol> probably won't have much luck with that right now


[20:49] <tbocs> join #ubuntu-classroom
[20:49] <tbocs> sorry ...
[21:48] <pleia2> our global jam will be at the wikimedia office!
[21:49] <pleia2> met one of their people last night at balug, and he offered when I asked the group for space suggestions :)
[21:50]  * pleia2 will send out more formal details once all firmed up
[22:27] <bkerensa> pleia2: oh damn
[22:27] <bkerensa> I should have suggested that or Mozilla
[22:28] <bkerensa> I could have got you guys into Mozilla's office in SF
[22:28]  * bkerensa facepalms
[22:30] <pleia2> wikimedia is closer to where I live ;)
[22:30] <pleia2> they're at 149 new montgomery, I'm at 199
[22:31] <bkerensa> Yeah  Moz is at 2 Harrison St
[22:31] <bkerensa> let me know if you need to use that space in the future
[22:44] <pleia2> bkerensa: ah, still within walking distance for me then ;) I'll let you know, thanks
[22:44] <pleia2> welcome andrew_wmf
[22:44] <andrew_wmf> hi, thx


[10:51] <daxroc> Morning all
[10:51] <daxroc> Has any one been getting slow speeds from heanet package mirrors ?
[10:52] <daxroc> Always seem to get few 100 bytes ...
[10:55] <slashtom> i was using heanet's debian mirror last night... no problems
[10:55] <daxroc> need to setup a local mirror here
[10:56] <slashtom> or fix your internets ;)
[10:56] <daxroc> heh cant fix eircom
[11:23] <daxroc> Whoa all of 1Kb now
[11:23]  * daxroc needs to slow down
[11:25]  * daxroc attaches a usb stick to a pidgin ... next gen broadband v2
[15:36] <daxroc> damn i7 are fast


[03:23] <ABEDIN87> HI there.. I'm Absolutely New To a forum... apologies in Advance for any Obvious question May occur... i have a very Serious Problem and you guys are my Ultimate hope if Nov salvation for this very uncommon issue:
[03:23] <ABEDIN87> Hi there,   I'm a PBell customer and i have a major issue with my Netbook dot s(Running win7) :basically i've  tried to install Lubuntu over win7 From a usb  and everything was Running correctly(following the instructions From the web ) then at the Moment of the installation Process when I've been ask whether i  wanted a side by side installation or overwrite win7,  i've  chosen to format the HHD and overwrite the current OS : I've
[03:29] <ABEDIN87_> Hi there,   I'm a PBell customer and i have a major issue with my Netbook dot s(Running win7) :basically i've  tried to install Lubuntu over win7 From a usb  and everything was Running correctly(following the instructions From the web ) then at the Moment of the installation Process when I've been ask whether i  wanted a side by side installation or overwrite win7,  i've  chosen to format the HHD and overwrite the current OS
[03:58] <Guest8981> I'm currently running Ubuntu 16.04.2 on a mid-2010 macbook pro and was looking to switch over to lubuntu and was wondering if i would have issues with gpu drivers? Will Lubuntu pull drivers from the same repository as Ubuntu did or will I have to manually install gpu drivers to get it to work properly? Thanks!
[04:33] <tsimonq2> Guest8981: It should manually pull the right drivers.
[04:34] <tsimonq2> Guest8981: If not, say so and stick around, and we can help you fix your problem. Or, if you still have problems, hop in #ubuntu and ask them what package is missing, and then install it.
[04:35] <tsimonq2> Guest8981: And yes, Ubuntu and Lubuntu share repositories.
[04:35]  * tsimonq2 goes to sleep o/
[05:40] <Guest8981> tsimonq2: thanks for the help! Teveryone else, no need to manually install gpu drivers the nouveau drivers work out of the box! yay
[15:29] <Bastien__> hola
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[18:46] <Nono> bonsoir c'est Nono j'ai un souci avec toutou linux quelqu'un peut'il m'aider
[18:46] <wxl> !fr | Nono