[17:35] <ActionParsnip> kyubutsu: you are mixing whatthings are with your 'understanding' of what things are instead of what they actually are. If youo stick to what things actually are, then you will be able to communicate easier with others
[17:35] <kyubutsu> so am i, i made my point as clear as possible, if you fail to parse my line, its over. EOF
[17:36] <medeman> holstein: yea i just saw it.
[17:36] <Android666> have ubuntu on my android phone and gonna switch from win7 to ubuntu on my laptop to...is ubuntu gnome ??
[17:36] <pnorman> Ho^Oh: That guide looks like what I did
[17:36] <theadmin> Android666: We currently use the Unity shell with Gnome.
[17:37] <Dr_willis> Android666:  ubuntu uses gnome 3 with the unity shell in 11.10+
[17:37] <holstein> Android666: ubuntu *can* be gnome.. or whatever you like.. its unity by default now
[17:37] <theadmin> Android666: See http://unity.ubuntu.com
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> Android666: if you install the default ubuntu, you will get gnome desktop with Unity shell.
[17:37]  * Dr_willis wonders how one gets ubuntu on a phone...
[17:37] <cloudgeek> ActionParsnip: okay i am try to deny that
[17:37] <theadmin> Dr_willis: Just a sec bitte
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: there is a way, you install a package then use vnc tolocalhost
[17:38] <Dr_willis> ActionParsnip:  thats just... strange.. :P
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: very, but its doable ;)
[17:38] <theadmin> Dr_willis: See the link I pm'ed
[17:38] <urlin2u> ActionParsnip, I see people with ubuntu installs and no gnome shell including myself are you sure about the default? :)
[17:38] <Android666> dr willis its sick easy to get ubuntu on android phone and i use a micro port mouse so its like surfing with small screen :)))
[17:38] <Dr_willis> heh. I have been playing dosbox  games on my phone. :)
[17:38] <Dr_willis> I got a Mini keyboard with touchpad. that i use.
[17:38] <peter___> I'm stull a linux n00b. I'm trying to install tomboy, and I get
[17:38] <medeman> holstein: my bios also says "IDE Channel 0 no 80 conductor cable installed" and "IDE Channel 1 no 80 conductor cable installed"
[17:39] <urlin2u> ActionParsnip, 11.10 here
[17:39] <peter___> configure: error: Can't find "gmcs" in your PATH
[17:39] <LinuxDude256> I have a question about sound in Ubuntu sound is being processed I believe through the soundcard but my desktop speakers are not working, only sound through the PC speaker
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> urlin2u: the 11.10 desktop ISO will give youo unity by default
[17:39] <Android666> i use samsung g s2 with root acess otherwise it wont work
[17:39] <arunkumar413> i'm using a gwrite editor to write a html document. but it has no spell check in this program. Is there any other way to spell check
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d_diU7i7Z0
[17:39] <holstein> medeman: thats probably an error messsage worth troubleshooting
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: dosbox rock, install Win98 in it is a great laugh
[17:40] <holstein> LinuxDude256: you can try running alsamixer in a terminal and *not* trusting any of the labels.. you can also try installing pavucontrol
[17:40] <Android666> yes look thats the youtube link to get ubuntu on phone and it really works
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> Android666: your device has a browser, why run ubuntu to web browse...
[17:40] <medeman> holstein: but as i said all other drives work and are also not connected by such a cable. i googled this error and read that you could ignore the error message as there isnt a 80 pin cable and they are all 40 pin...
[17:40] <urlin2u> ActionParsnip, okay that is what happened here, it has been confusing to be corrected here with it being default when that is not necessarily the whole truth. ;)
[17:41] <urlin2u> gnome shell that is ActionParsnip
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> urlin2u: You'll get Unity shell if you use: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso    as is
[17:42] <Android666> i didnt thought it would work but ill used to have cyanogenmod and it didnt work ? now i use miui 2.2.3 and ubuntu works like a charm....
[17:43] <LinuxDude256> hardware shows it is internal audio, there is no selection for my speakers, the audio jack is not being used via ubuntu only working through the PC speaker
[17:43] <iananananan> !grub2
[17:43] <holstein> LinuxDude256: cool... did you try alsamixer? or pavucontrol?
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> LinuxDude256: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[17:44] <kyubutsu> sigh.. changed password for email in web portal and now thunderbird dont wanna log in with new password  :(
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> kyubutsu: go into password and keys and delete yourstanding thunderbird pass, you should then be asked for the new one for POP and SMTP
[17:45] <_raven> xubuntu - where are panelsettings saved?
[17:45] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: I suggest you use "&&" rather than a semicolon so the next command will only run if the previous succeeds.
[17:45] <theadmin> _raven: xfconf
[17:45] <kyubutsu> ah, good idea, ActionParsnip
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: true but nothing will happen in this case as the script file won't exist
[17:45]  * kyubutsu tries ...
[17:45] <theadmin> _raven: Actually, hm, no... I think it's ~/.xfce4/panel/
[17:46] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Just a couple errors, yeah :D
[17:46] <_raven> theadmin no i importet the files from there but its all reset
[17:46] <medeman> holstein: i wonder if i could do something in the bios settings? i can set access mode to CHS, LBA or Large; PIO Mode to 0, 1, 2, 3 or 4; and UDMA Mode to Disable. At the moment they are all on "Auto"
[17:46] <bdrewery> If I make a change to /etc/init/mysql.conf, will it get overwritten if I upgrade the mysql package?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: sure but no bad effects ;)
[17:46] <Guest45859> terminal/1.0/00001.
[17:46] <Dr_willis> bdrewery:  it should ask if you want to  overwrtite it or not
[17:47] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: In this specific case ;)
[17:47] <LinuxDude256> here it is http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8814f65b3bc01c3ff938ebef6df00299b983e606
[17:47] <bdrewery> Dr_willis: thanks
[17:47] <escott> bdrewery, use etc-keeper
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> bdrewery: I believe you will be asked during upgrades
[17:47] <bdrewery> thanks all
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: yep, thats why I use it in this case
[17:47] <Guest45859> try that to upgrade
[17:48] <kyubutsu> it failed, thunderbird pass isnt listed in my "passwords and keys"
[17:48] <antivirtel> Hi! I have a new Lenovo E525, and I want to make my lm-sensors work, but it only shows this: http://paste2.org/p/1901077 - can someone help me how to show other information?
[17:48] <kyubutsu> :(
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> LinuxDude256: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/153499    may help
[17:49] <kyubutsu> perhaps i should try making a new thunderbird profile.. ?
[17:49] <theadmin> From "man chattr": 'When a file with the `u' attribute set is  deleted,  its  contents  are saved.   This  allows the user to ask for its undeletion.' -- how do I "ask for undeletion" of such a file, any idea?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: changed the page, just for you :D
[17:50] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: ?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: the sound troubleshooting procedure page, just changed it to use &&
[17:51] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Ah, ok :D
[17:51] <Random832> theadmin: apt-cache search undel
[17:51] <theadmin> Random832: Ah, thank you.
[17:52] <Random832> actually, none of them seem to work with the "official" method
[17:52] <theadmin> Makes no sense -_- Implement an attr and make no way of using it huh
[17:52] <Random832> though, that attribute might just be a "make it more likely to work" kind of thing
[17:53] <_raven> theadmin no i importet the files from there but its all reset
[17:53] <Random832> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Ext2fs-Undeletion-2.html
[17:53] <Random832> The ext2fs also provides the `undeletable' attribute (+u in chattr). The intention is that if a file with that attribute is deleted, instead of actually being reused, it is merely moved to a `safe location' for deletion at a later date. Unfortunately this feature has not yet been implemented in mainstream kernels; and though in the past there has been some interest in implementing it, it is not (to my knowledge) available for any current kernels.
[17:54] <mana182> !list
[17:54] <Random832> so... the attribute doesn't actually do anythnig, it's just reserved for future implementations
[17:54] <theadmin> Random832: I see... The manpage states it as if it's only unimplemented for ext2/ext3. Guess it was written in pre-ext4 ages :D
[17:54] <Random832> well
[17:54] <Random832> the _attribute_ existing doesn't mean the functionality behind it exists
[17:55] <grkblood> im running ubuntu 11.10 and my laptop webcam doesnt work. how do i go about gettign it working?
[17:55] <_raven> xubuntu - where are panelsettings saved?
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> grkblood: what have you tested it with?
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> grkblood: have you tried cheese?
[17:55] <Random832> http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/tip/Working-with-Linux-file-system-attributes implies that extundelete interacts with +u
[17:55] <grkblood> ActionParsnip, cheese
[17:55] <arunkumar413> why does empty lines are formatted in libre office
[17:55] <grkblood> yep, cheese
[17:55] <Random832> theadmin: so extundelete may be your best bet
[17:56] <theadmin> Random832: Ah, thanks
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> grkblood: ok then run: lsusb    there will be an 8 character hex ID, you can use it to find guides
[17:56] <Random832> [though, "don't delete files you will want later" is a good rule of thumb regardless]
[17:57] <theadmin> Random832: Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out this attribute lol
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> or just restore your data from your backups////
[17:57] <theadmin> Random832: Playing around, you know?
[17:57] <grkblood> ActionParsnip, how do i determine which of these is my webcam?
[17:57] <_raven> xubuntu - where are panelsettings saved?
[17:58] <grkblood> nvmd, ill just search em all
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> grkblood: if you can pastebin the output I may be able to advise.
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> _raven: ~/.config/   somewhere maybe
[17:58] <_raven> ActionParsnip i imported all .folders but it is still the same after reboot
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> _raven: are you the owner of the restored data, did you chown it to your user?
[18:00] <_raven> ActionParsnip its the same use as it was before - its a restore of a /home/ backup
[18:00] <Titanoboa> Hello, I need help with a simple thing in Wine (i'm on ubuntu 11.04 but i doubt that matters in this case)
[18:00] <Titanoboa> I need to copy over files from my home folder in ubuntu to a subfolder in C in wine
[18:00] <Titanoboa> and i can't find a way
[18:00] <Titanoboa> quick help much appreciated :)
[18:00] <theadmin> Titanoboa: The Wine C drive is in ~/.wine/drive_c/
[18:00] <Titanoboa> so i can find it in the ubuntu browser thingy?
[18:01] <Titanoboa> andthen just "copy to other pane"?
[18:01] <theadmin> Titanoboa: Sure, it's in your home folder (although it's hidden. Hit Ctrl-H to see hidden files. All files which start with a . are hidden in Linux)
[18:01] <Oleksis> Hello, please help me with that problem. Can't fix it for 4 hours . What's wrong ? http://doiop.com/img1826
[18:01] <Titanoboa> Yep, thanks :) i'll let you know when i fail/succeed
[18:02] <grkblood> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/838129/
[18:03] <_raven> ActionParsnip ?
[18:03] <grkblood> ActionParsnip, i believe its 04f2:b230
[18:04] <Titanoboa> theadmin: worked perfectly, thanks (though I'm not able to run the program). i'll try to look for a solution and then (hopefully not) come back for help again ;<
[18:04] <Titanoboa> or maybe it's just not possible to run it w/ wine
[18:05] <antivirtel> Hi! I have a new Lenovo E525, and I want to make my lm-sensors work, but it only shows this: http://paste2.org/p/1901077 - can someone help me how to show other information?
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> _raven: you may want to chown the imported data to our user, just to make sure you have full access
[18:06] <Titanoboa> actually i'm clueless. theadmin: "Program Error; The program (filename).exe has encountered a serious problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience."
[18:06] <_raven> ActionParsnip what would be the cmd for whole /home/?
[18:06] <Titanoboa> (there's no error code)
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> _raven: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[18:06] <Amdpc> Hi.....In windows I used to use Turbo C++ to execute .cpp programs...Anything in UBuntu Like Turbo c++?
[18:07] <theadmin> Titanoboa: Try going to #winehq and ask for help with <<PROGRAM NAME HERE>>, it's the official Wine support channel
[18:07] <theadmin> Amdpc: gcc
[18:07] <theadmin> Amdpc: g++, rather.
[18:07] <DragonSlay> Amdpc: g++
[18:07] <_raven> ActionParsnip ok tnx will now restart to verify
[18:08] <Titanoboa> theadmin: thanks, i tried joining #wine and stuff before coming here, without success obviously. your help is appreciated :) have a good day/night
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> grkblood: 041e:30e0   sounds like its the one
[18:08] <theadmin> Titanoboa: Yeah I always join #wine instead of #winehq and go to wine.org instead of winehq.org xD
[18:08] <Titanoboa> heh
[18:08] <danes> hello, how can I clean up the temporary files that are being displayed in Dash home???
[18:08] <theadmin> Titanoboa: Confusing, since the program is named "wine" but all the sites and such have the "hq"
[18:09] <Titanoboa> ^^
[18:09] <ignacio> Hi. I'm trying to connect wirelesly Ad-hoc xubuntu and w7 but I can't. Any help?
[18:09] <CharminTheMoose> What options do I need to disable in the kernel to remove SATA/IDE harddrive support, but keep cdrom support?
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> grkblood: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/757040   may help
[18:09] <Amdpc> DragonSlay , theadmin : Thanks !
[18:09] <medeman> holstein: i played around with the IDE cables and plugs in the computer, and ubuntu detects all drives now. thanks for your help =)
[18:09] <grkblood> thanks ActionParsnip
[18:09] <theadmin> !ics | ignacio please read.
[18:10] <holstein> medeman: glad you got it sorted... i had a bad IDE cable once that was a pain to troubleshoot
[18:11] <ignacio> I will continuing reading, thanks.
[18:12] <ehsan_> Hi Im trying to build a multiboot linux live DVD with BURG boot loader instead of GRUB, I make a live grub rescue iso using this command:
[18:12] <ehsan_> grub-mkrescue --output=grub.iso /boot/grub
[18:12] <ehsan_> but when I want to make a burg one with this command it says:
[18:12] <ehsan_> Target format not specified (use the -O option).
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> ehsan_: burg isn't supported here
[18:12] <ehsan_> so what shall I do?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> ehsan_: find a burg channel / read the burg man page
[18:13] <ehsan_> ok thankyou
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> !burg
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> dang
[18:14] <urlin2u> lol
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> swing and a miss
[18:15] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: I don't think grub derivatives are actually supported here.
[18:15] <urlin2u> ehsan_, for the record burg is a grub 2 version. with decorations
[18:15] <theadmin> Speaking of, anyone aware if Ubuntu officially supports booting via syslinux?
[18:15] <theadmin> urlin2u: And an entirely different config style
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: yeah, was hoping she's tell us where it is supported
[18:15] <urlin2u> theadmin, hardly
[18:16] <theadmin> urlin2u: hardly what exactly? Is that an answer for my question or for my comment? lol
[18:16] <danes> hello, where can I find options to clean up the temporary files? I don't want to have the recent files being listed...
[18:16]  * theadmin should start labelling the ongoing conversations with numbers or something :/
[18:17] <y2E0> colors > numbers. make
[18:17] <y2E0> *makes it more human for everyone :)
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> danes: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29559/how-can-i-keep-recent-files-from-appearing-in-unity
[18:17] <urlin2u> theadmin, you made a broad sttaement I answered it with one word in the same spirit, burg installs are burg-pc-burg-common, it has a os-prober it is grub in drag
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> danes: http://askubuntu.com/questions/67924/where-are-my-recent-documents-in-unity
[18:17] <danes> ActionParsnip, thanks
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> danes: http://ubuntuguide.net/clearprevent-recent-documents-under-files-folders-in-ubuntu-unity
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> danes: you could have easily found those...
[18:18] <theadmin> urlin2u: I see, hm. I mean the actual format of grub.cfg and whatever the burg config is are, well, different.
[18:18] <wolfmitchell> I need to use a USB port to emulate a Serial port to WINE
[18:18] <urlin2u> theadmin, not sure they except in name and the decorations but I get your point.
[18:18] <wolfmitchell> For a Parallax Boe-Bot
[18:18] <urlin2u> are
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: I'd ask in #winehq too
[18:19] <wolfmitchell> Mmk
[18:20] <danes> ActionParsnip, for some reason the privacy link is not installed/showing up in  my pc... Do I have to install something else?...
[18:20] <Fjorgynn> Hi just installed ubuntu but I can't access my Internet
[18:20] <Luigi_> i too
[18:20] <Fjorgynn> wired
[18:21] <Luigi_> wireless
[18:21] <urlin2u> Fjorgynn, can you name the card?
[18:21] <urlin2u> chip whatever iot is
[18:22] <Luigi_> Where do I get Connection name,ssid,mode,bssid,device mac address,clone mac address,mtu,dhcp client id?
[18:22] <Fjorgynn> nope but it worked in debian 5 min ago
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> danes: not so far as I know, you can just manipulate the hidden files in $HOME
[18:23] <urlin2u> Fjorgynn, run this or just run lspci to identify it  lspci | grep -i wireless
[18:23] <Fjorgynn> urlin2u: Intel 82562EZ 10/100
[18:24] <urlin2u> Fjorgynn, this is what mine looks like how about yours with the grep command Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[18:24] <DogWater> Anyone doing ethernet bonding in 11.11? all of the instructions on the ubuntu help site are way different, can anyone tell me the right way to do it?
[18:25] <antivirtel> I have a new Lenovo E525, and I want to make my lm-sensors work, but it only shows this: http://paste2.org/p/1901077 - can someone help me how to show other information?
[18:25] <danes> how can I add the privacy icon in the system settings panel? for some reason it is not showing up in my pc?
[18:25] <theadmin> Fjorgynn: So is it wired then? If you run "ip link show", do you see the device?
[18:26] <danes> instead of the privacy icon in the system settings panel I have the software sources icon. How can I change it to have the link to privacy settings/
[18:27] <urlin2u> danes, privacy settings?
[18:28] <danes> urlin2u, yes, checking at the link ActionParsnip sent me - http://askubuntu.com/questions/29559/how-can-i-keep-recent-files-from-appearing-in-unity - there is an icon to the privacy settings
[18:28] <mongy> anyone good with openvpn?  In windows when I connect to my vpn it does not interrupt any existing connection, so my download carries on etc, but in ubuntu it kills what connections to pidgin, irc, downloads etc.  any way around it?
[18:28] <Fjorgynn> theadmin: yes but only a ipv6 which I don't use
[18:28] <danes> urlin2u, in my pc the software sources is showing instead
[18:29] <Fjorgynn> it says "Disconnected - you are now offline" in the widget
[18:29] <Fjorgynn> ifup eth0 doesn't work
[18:29] <theadmin> Fjorgynn: Hm, okay, try this: "sudo ip link set eth0 up ; sudo dhcpcd eth0"
[18:29] <kaminoor2> hi all
[18:29] <urlin2u> danes, that is 12.04 is that what your running?
[18:30] <Fjorgynn> theadmin: nope
[18:30] <theadmin> Fjorgynn: Hmmmuh. No idea, sorry, weird.
[18:30] <theadmin> Fjorgynn: I'll tell you if I come up with something
[18:30] <kaminoor2> yes
[18:31] <Fjorgynn> ...
[18:32] <danes> urlin2u, yes
[18:32] <ingwa> hi
[18:32] <ingwa> I searched for a unity channel but found none.  Is this the right place for unity questions?
[18:32] <acicula> mongy: it may have to do with the routes, you can probably tick the vpn to not be the default gateway. which means you will have to specify which ip's/netbklocks are routed through the vpn
[18:32] <urlin2u> danes, cool you might get help in the #ubuntu+1 channel as well that is the correct channel. :)
[18:33] <danes> urlin2u, sorry, just verified and I have 11.10 in this pc I installed 12.04 in my laptop tough..
[18:33]  * _Luigi_ is offline
[18:33] <urlin2u> danes, cool
[18:33] <danes> urlin2u, would you recommend upgrading?
[18:34] <mongy> acicula, I kind of need it to be used as default gateway.  In windows its used as default as well.  I guess it's not doable in my situation.  thx
[18:34] <urlin2u> danes, to 12.04 personally I don't developments as my only OS your choice really.
[18:34] <urlin2u> install]
[18:35] <csmrfx> Apt-get installed firefox on 10.10 maverick crashes no matter what. Removed all other versions of FF, apt-get autoclean & autoremove & purge, apt-get isntall firefox: crashes on every turn. What to do?
[18:35] <acicula> mongy: if it is your default gateway then it should break any current connections you have
[18:35] <csmrfx> And from the maveric repos, that FF v is 10.0
[18:35] <Fjorgynn> no solution at all?
[18:36] <Thenewguy> I only used Ubuntu a few years ago and honestly, dont know shit about it. Is it worth changing from windows to ubuntu if your a windows gamer?
[18:36] <danes> urlin2u, hmmm I am asking because I am assuming that upgrading to 12.04 will have the privacy settings option showing up in the systems settings. Unless you can suggest me a way to find a way to adjust privacy settings in 11.10
[18:36] <LinuxDude256> weird I plugged my jack into blue colored jack vs the standard green jack for audioput and now I have sound through my speakers.
[18:36] <xangua> !language | Thenewguy
[18:36] <mongy> acicula, I guessed it would, but it doesnt affect them in windows, no idea why
[18:36] <acicula> Thenewguy: you can game on linux using wine, but it depends on the games you play really
[18:36] <casperuntuTR> Hi, I have a trouble to login into facebook on firefox or chrome Ubuntu 11.10. Is there any idea aout it?
[18:36] <acicula> mongy: either windows tracks the connection, or it does not set the default gateway properly
[18:36] <csmrfx> Thenewguy: just stick to windows gaming on windows. Like asking if going vegetarian is ok when you prefer McD
[18:37] <mongy> acicula, I thought it wasnt working properly in windows, but then I checked whatismyip and did other tests, it was default.
[18:37] <urlin2u> danes, you can make desktop icons in 11.10 and 12.04 and put a path to the app, not sure how as far as the panels.
[18:37] <Thenewguy> ok thanks!
[18:37] <acicula> Thenewguy: i use a mac mainly, but do play a few games, wine works for me, but you'd have to try it out really
[18:38] <danes> urlin2u, ok... Do you have any idea where can I adjust the privacy settings?
[18:38] <LinuxDude256> do any play world of warcraft under ubuntu?
[18:38] <Thenewguy> well forgranted I could try it but.. Last time I tried a ubuntu os I couldnt even figure out how to install AIM lol
[18:38] <casperuntuTR> i can not login into facebook under Ubuntu
[18:38] <Thenewguy> not sure how much the interface is user friendly now
[18:39] <urlin2u> danes, not really I haven't used that, I just use bleach it in my ase, but I am the only user and don't need privacy per-say
[18:39] <LinuxDude256> currently this the only reason why I duel boot into windows xp
[18:39] <urlin2u> case*
[18:40] <acicula> Thenewguy: i think there are a few aids to make using wine a bit easier, but its not always straightforward
[18:40] <urlin2u> danes, bleachbit isn't for privacy but it scrubs stuff.
[18:41] <warfaren> LinuxDude256: have you tried running it in wine?
[18:42] <acicula> LinuxDude256: i dont but im confident it will work just fine
[18:42] <acicula> given how popular it is
[18:42] <acicula> think it has a good rating on winehq.com as well
[18:42] <urlin2u> LinuxDude256, never used wine or played any game really. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[18:43] <mahesh> can anyone help with irc clients that work behind proxy
[18:43] <urlin2u> mahesh, like TOR
[18:43] <Dr_willis> mahesh:  perhaps give the channel more details..
[18:44] <mahesh> DR_Willis i didn't get u
[18:44] <mahesh> how do i get tor?
[18:44] <Dr_willis> mahesh:  you just asked a very broad question.
[18:44] <mahesh> u mean the tor browser?
[18:44] <Dr_willis> !tor
[18:44] <mahesh> thanks!
[18:44] <Dr_willis> Tor is an anominity proxy type tool.
[18:45] <Fjorgynn> theadmin: dhcpcd is not installed
[18:45] <Dr_willis> you really dont need it for IRC.
[18:45] <theadmin> Fjorgynn: Ah, wells, you can use dhclient (likely)
[18:45] <acicula> the tor website has a good writeup on how to use it properly
[18:45] <urlin2u> mahesh, if you want to use tor on the irc there are instructions on the web
[18:46] <urlin2u> I guess the bot knows as well
[18:46] <mahesh> there is no tor package for oneiric
[18:47] <Fjorgynn> nope
[18:47] <acicula> mahesh: you can use the package from the tor website
[18:47] <acicula> or rather you should use that one
[18:48] <Dr_willis> If you want to be anonymous here on Freenode you can just get a 'cloak'
[18:48] <Dr_willis> !cloak
[18:48] <urlin2u> mahesh, there afaults in the tor system I wouldn't personally rely on it for privacy really.
[18:48] <urlin2u> are*
[18:48] <acicula> though there is a tor package in oneiric i think, i installed the ubuntu version before remembering to switch to the tor site packages
[18:48] <Dr_willis> !info tor
[18:49] <acicula> urlin2u: there are ways to attack tor yes, but there are plenty of guides on the tor website which explain how you can remain anonymous if you really need to
[18:49] <acicula> it wont work for anonymously leaching bittorrent, but websites should be ok
[18:49] <mahesh> privacy is not an issue, i just need an irc client that can work behind proxy
[18:49] <Dr_willis> most irc clients have proxy settings
[18:49] <urlin2u> acicula, to some extent but your are subject to the routing which you cannot control completely, read closely.
[18:49] <mahesh> all ports except 80, 21 and 22 are blocked to me
[18:50] <acicula> mahesh: even using tor might then be tricky
[18:50] <Dr_willis> You need to give some mroe details then as to what you are trying to do. You could always try setting up a ssh tunnel to some other machine
[18:50] <acicula> urlin2u: that makes no sense, also you can pick your route through the tor network if you want
[18:51] <mahesh> i have a machine i can ssh to. and it can connect through all ports
[18:51] <jrk---> Hello. Will usb-creator-gtk delete any files from my USB stick?
[18:51] <urlin2u> acicula, the entrance and exits to the network if done in the same country if not bounced out leave you exposed if I remember correctly.
[18:51] <mahesh> but i cant install anything on it
[18:52] <Dr_willis> mahesh:  you could just shh to the box and run a console based irc client. if thers one installed..
[18:52] <urlin2u> acicula, not together but consecutivlt the exits
[18:52] <acicula> urlin2u: i dont see why that would be the case, the whole tor system is designed to prevent you from correlating an input and output of the system
[18:52] <urlin2u> consecutively
[18:52] <mahesh> Dr_Willis  the problem is, theres none installed
[18:53] <LinuxDude256> sound is now working after plugging into the blue port on the back of the computer instead of the standard green jack, I do want to say that I appreciate all of your help.
[18:53] <urlin2u> acicula, they say this themslves in the tor info I believe, your also subject to going through servers that could be not safe.
[18:53] <acicula> urlin2u: you can try and link consequtive connections by using information from one connection to discover the other syes
[18:54] <urlin2u> acicula, my point is like saying linux is not hackable or free of badware is not correct nor is tor a private entity at all times, do you get that. :)
[18:54] <CharminTheMoose> What options do I need to disable in the kernel to remove SATA/IDE harddrive support, but keep cdrom support?
[18:55] <acicula> urlin2u: again its designed to deal with that, i wont argue it's foolproof, the tor's disclaimer already says that, but attacking it is not trivial
[18:55] <casperuntuTR> whenever i login to facebook from any browser on ubuntu it appears "wrong password" why it is so? any idea i use dualbot with win7 and no problem on it
[18:56] <mongy> casperuntuTR, sure caps lock aint on?
[18:56] <urlin2u> acicula, hmm and my preamble of PERSONALLY was not good enough for you. :)
[18:57] <mongy> casperuntuTR, is it saving the login info for you?  try cleaning the cache/cookies and try again.  not heard of such an issue before.
[18:58] <casperuntuTR> i tried all clean an reset reinstall browsers but result is same wrong pass.
[18:58] <_raven> ActionParsnip chmod solved the panel-settings-problem - tnx ;)
[18:58] <_raven> ActionParsnip chown i mean
[18:59] <acicula> urlin2u: i dont follow
[19:00] <urlin2u> acicula, I said personally I would not rely on this privacy, not that it wasn't possible to jave it.
[19:00] <urlin2u> have
[19:00] <urlin2u> within limitations
[19:00] <mongy> casperuntuTR, as a test, try using lynx
[19:00] <Oer> casperuntuTR, try the mobile site > http://m.facebook.com/
[19:01] <casperuntuTR> i tried and again wrong pass uhhhh!
[19:01] <Oer> name correct ( without space added) ?
[19:01] <urlin2u> casperuntuTR, password for what?
[19:01] <casperuntuTR> for facebook
[19:01] <TomSlominski> Hello.
[19:01] <casperuntuTR> i can login when change OS to win7
[19:02] <urlin2u> casperuntuTR, how would that be related thos channel?
[19:02] <urlin2u> this
[19:02] <urlin2u> casperuntuTR, check your passwords in the browser, make sure you have the right one when yhou have it save it
[19:03] <V456> connect irc.anonops.li
[19:03] <urlin2u> TomSlominski, whats up.:)
[19:03] <TomSlominski> I have /usr/sbin/lightdm in /etc/X11/default-display-manager, but lightdm ain't starting on boot. when I alt+ctrl+F1 to a console, login as root and then execute "lightdm", it does start fine.
[19:03] <kklimonda> does anyone know if usb-creator-gtk has even worked on windows?
[19:03] <DarsVaeda> hi, is it possible in unity to disable the wobbeling icons in the left bar for specific applications?
[19:04] <urlin2u> kklimonda, you want a Widos iso on a usb, which windows release?
[19:04] <Oer> kklimonda, that tool is not suitable to run on windows
dont know that...but u can use unetbootin
[19:04] <urlin2u> windows*
[19:04] <acicula> urlin2u: eh this is a channel where people come for advice, if you have personal idea's about something that you dont want to discuss, dont post them
[19:04] <TomSlominski> Everything was fine before, but I was trying to fix another problem and installed gdm. decided that gdm won't be useful so now I want lightdm back
[19:04] <kklimonda> I need a tool that will let me install ubuntu on the usb partition
[19:04] <trism> TomSlominski: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm;
[19:04] <TomSlominski> dpkg-reconfigure lightdm doesn't work because it returns errors.
[19:04] <urlin2u> acicula, lol that is all you have done without saying it is your opinion.
[19:04] <acicula> kklimonda: you mean like on a usb stick
[19:04] <trism> TomSlominski: what errors?
[19:04] <Oer> kklimonda, unetbootin will do
[19:05] <TomSlominski> trism: http://askubuntu.com/questions/58023/how-can-i-make-lightdm-the-default-display-manager#comment68525_58024
[19:05] <sudipta> !unetbootin
[19:05] <urlin2u> acicula, no links for confirmation no empirical evidence.
[19:05] <kklimonda> Oer: does it play well with 10.04 images?
[19:05] <brkolog> where can set permissions for tftpd? is it in /etc/defaults ?
[19:05] <Oer> kklimonda, yes, i used it fine.
[19:06]  * amal029
[19:06] <kklimonda> bah, it's still no good without some hacking..
[19:06] <brkolog> I want to write a file over tftpd but it says no permission
[19:06] <urlin2u> acicula, it is channel poicy to say when it is a personal opinion so that the user is not confusd with fud
[19:06] <kklimonda> (I need it to add persistent to the /proc/cmdline but not create casper-rw file)
[19:06] <kklimonda> oh well, I can probably hack it a bit
[19:06] <trism> TomSlominski: actually it shouldn't really matter anyway because all that does it set /etc/X11/default-display-manager (the errors don't stop it from working though)
[19:07] <TomSlominski> trism: oh. it's a lightdm problem then :/
[19:07] <TomSlominski> trism: how about i replace that with lightdm-session?
[19:08] <Oer> kklimonda, you can use the ubuntu tool in live-cd mode. this gives you the option to make use of the left space as a storage.
[19:08] <trism> TomSlominski: lightdm-session?
[19:08] <kklimonda> Oer: that's too complicated for my users - I need something that will work from Windows :)
[19:09] <TomSlominski> trism: yes. I dir'd /usr/sbin and there's a lightdm-session in there
[19:09] <urlin2u> kklimonda, you can make a persistent with a partition as well any size you want, ext2 named casper-rw
[19:09] <kklimonda> urlin2u: yes I know, but I have to add persistent to the cmdline for casper to use it
[19:09] <trism> TomSlominski: that's not what you want
[19:10] <kklimonda> urlin2u: but both unetbootin and usb-creator-gtk don't let me do that unless I also create casper-rw loop file
[19:10] <TomSlominski> trism: okay. I'll have a look for errors in /var/log
[19:10] <trism> TomSlominski: it is either that upstart is not starting it at boot (because perhaps one of the checks fails) or there is an error when lightdm starts (in which case check out the logs in /var/log/lightdm)
[19:10] <t432> hi,
[19:10] <trism> TomSlominski: you don't have text in the kernel command line do you?
[19:12] <t432> Which directory contains the app available to all users? i have a generic linux eclipse package.  I am not sure where to place it.
[19:12] <t432> i can place in him dir but that was it will only be available to current user and not available to mencu
[19:12] <urlin2u> kklimonda, you make the iso install with either or any loader then make the partition. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-larger-than-4gb-casper-partition/
[19:12] <t432> on menu*
[19:13] <TomSlominski> trism: I have plymouth and none of the other tty's say anything
[19:13] <kklimonda> urlin2u: but I don't want to do that this way - I need a click&pray solution for people who can just click few buttons :)
[19:13] <urlin2u> kklimonda, cool
[19:13] <trism> TomSlominski: if you dpkg-reconfigure gdm and select it, will it boot properly to gdm?
[19:14] <TomSlominski> trism: it could be a problem with X. I had to downgrade it due to a bug in the latest xserver-xorg-common
[19:14] <graft> trism: yes, it should
[19:14] <TomSlominski> trism: It defaulted to gdm before and it was fine, but now I've purged it.
[19:14] <graft> trism: oh you're asking him, my mistake
[19:15] <graft> anyone know how i can get more complete unicode support in my console? i only have a subset of characters here...
[19:15] <MoleMan> I found these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpLVM-WithoutACleanInstall but didn't find them very clear would somebody be able to help guide me through moving everything to LVM? (I'm using server, not desktop)
[19:16] <trism> TomSlominski: alright, it would be interesting to see /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log right after a boot then, without manually starting it
[19:16] <TomSlominski> trism: I'll do that then. be right back
[19:17] <urlin2u> kklimonda, making linux seems to be plug and pray/play may not be the best approach it is not.
[19:18] <graft> MoleMan: what's confusing?
[19:18] <Guest50512> how big should the ubuntu swap partition be if i have 2gb ram?
[19:18] <urlin2u> kklimonda, all the time basically due to drivers...etc not being released for open source
[19:18] <zer0-day> [RAW]: usr /bin/ld: note: 'gdk_threads_enter' is defined in DSO /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgdk-x11-2.0.so so try adding it to the linker command line /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgdk-x11-2.0.so: could not read symbols: Invalid operation
[19:18] <zer0-day> how can i add to the linker
[19:19] <mongy> medeman, 2gb at least if you require hibernation
[19:19] <MoleMan> graft: details on those instructions are vague... things like it says if you intend on moving everything to LVM you need a seperate /boot partition, but has no details of what to put in /if anything needs changing to work with that... etc and as I'm not too confident I would rather be able to ask someone will knowlege on the topic than just be constantly trying and guessing
[19:20] <medeman> mongy: k thanks, so ill do...4gb?
[19:20] <mongy> medeman, it won't hurt if you have plenty of disk space.
[19:20] <kklimonda> urlin2u: well, it's just fine when you know what to use it for (and you have a control over hardware you are using it on)
[19:20] <medeman> mongy: okay thank you
[19:21] <kklimonda> urlin2u: in this case I know exactly what I have to do so the risk is minimal
[19:21] <mongy> !swap | medeman
[19:21] <urlin2u> kklimonda, sure but that is not plug and play, you said other users not yourself.
[19:21] <escott> MoleMan, with lvm you need a /boot and the initrd needs to be updated to include the lvm drivers
[19:21] <mongy> medeman, look at the vm.swappiness section, it can help limit use of swap.
[19:21] <medeman> mongy: okay
[19:22] <TomSlominski> trism: It fixed itself :P Thanks anyway
[19:22] <mongy> medeman, a value of 10 is fine
[19:22] <medeman> mongy: 10gb?
[19:22] <trism> TomSlominski: strange, at least it works now
[19:22] <mongy> medeman, no, just 10
[19:22] <MoleMan> escott: OK, its things like this why I'm asking, those instructions don't even mention initrd
[19:22] <Gnome-br> How change the netbeans icon for the *.svg in ubuntu 11.10?
[19:23] <urlin2u> kklimonda, your approach just smells of "see how easy it is" when that is not the whole picture, my projection though. :)
[19:23] <medeman> mongy: huh, i dont get it...where to put that 10?
[19:23] <mongy> medeman, read the page :)
[19:23] <mongy> medeman, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#What_is_swappiness_and_how_do_I_change_it.3F
[19:23] <mernilio> hi all
[19:23] <escott> MoleMan, it may already be in the initrd if you are using a server build, but at a high level all you need is the kernel and initrd on a partition that grub can understand like ext2/ext4 and then the lvm drivers need to be in the initrd so the kernel can mount /
[19:24] <BrendaRed> so, canonical does not send ubuntu cds anymore?
[19:24] <oCean> BrendaRed: correct
[19:24] <kklimonda> urlin2u: I think I've lost you somewhere along the way. You can use Linux on a majority of desktops - when it doesn't work it doesn't work but that's different best
[19:24] <mongy> BrendaRed, loco teams do
[19:24] <urlin2u> BrendaRed, not without paying but freely downloadable.
[19:24] <BrendaRed> oh. why? |:
[19:24] <Gnome-br> Hi all
[19:24] <BrendaRed> yea, i know, but i kinda enjoyed having the cd in hands
[19:24] <mernilio> i think i made a big misstake of talking of myself as a god guitarplayer.
[19:24] <Gnome-br> How change the netbeans icon for the *.svg in ubuntu 11.10?
[19:24] <medeman> mongy: aah, now i get it. thank you
[19:24] <escott> MoleMan, so make the conversion and get grub to load the kernel. if it cant find slash you need to boot a livecd and go into a chroot and make sure the lvm drivers are in the initrd config and update-initramfs
[19:25] <oCean> BrendaRed: http://blog.canonical.com/?p=551
[19:25] <Oer> BrendaRed, you can buy them
[19:25] <kklimonda> urlin2u: I have a rather controlled deployment of this stuff, and I'm there to support it in the case of problems (but I'm not able to prepare usb sticks myself).
[19:25] <BrendaRed> ok, lemme see
[19:25] <urlin2u> kklimonda, never said it couldn't be.
[19:25] <BrendaRed> thank you all guys.
[19:25] <mernilio> i rule but now i guy want me to teach his 16 year old kid..
[19:25] <MoleMan> escott: It may be a stupid comment, but one of the things I thought of that I worried about is, if the details of what to mount are in /etc/fstab or whatever, how can that be called, if its not mounted... (if that makes sense, its things like that that I don't understand which is why I'm worried)
[19:25] <valdur55> How does "add new printer" work? How can add items to driver database?
[19:26] <oCean> mernilio: please stay on topic, use #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[19:26] <mernilio> oCean: sorry!
[19:26] <escott> MoleMan, and those instructions are ridiculously old as they reference hda pressumably you have sata disks so if you want more detailed this command then this you want to do some more searching
[19:27] <CDB> Im not sure what im doing - first time
[19:27] <escott> MoleMan, fstab and some other parts of /etc are copied to the initrd. if you are curious you can just gunzip the file and loop mount it to peek inside
[19:27] <urlin2u> MoleMan, have you looked at the fstab wiki for info?
[19:28] <CDB> ive got a problem with my Ubuntu computer. am I in the right place?
[19:28] <urlin2u> CDB, if it isn't the 12.04 development yes.
[19:28] <urlin2u> or a derivative
[19:29] <Socket-> it seems us.arcive.ubuntu.com is down, is anyone else experiencing this?
[19:29] <CDB> um.. can anyone see what im typing or am typing in the wrong place??
[19:29] <oCean> CDB: we can read you fine
[19:30] <MoleMan> escott: I knew they were old, it was just they were the only instructions I found which seemed to go through the whole process of moving all of an already operational system without reinstall. I will look at the wiki etc, I have to go ATM, will be back in about 15 mins...
[19:30] <CDB> thank you for answering - im not brilliant with these things
[19:30] <mraxilus> Is anyone familiar with unity lenses? My applications lense and gwibber lense just dissappeared out of the blue.
[19:30] <oCean> CDB: try to describe your issue, detailed, in single line for the channel
[19:30] <valdur55> Socket-: choose other repo
[19:30] <CDB> my comuter crashed and refuses to boot atall (not the one im on)
[19:30] <urlin2u> Socket-, spelled correctly it works here. http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/
[19:30] <Unknown0BC> hi,
[19:31] <Unknown0BC> Is it just me or is Ubuntu and blackberries not friends ?
[19:31] <ikonia> Unknown0BC: blackberry has poor/no linux support
[19:31] <escott> !details | CDB how far does it get in the boot. what is the last thing you see.
[19:31] <ikonia> Unknown0BC: it's not ubuntu, it's linux in general
[19:31] <CDB> ive purchased a Linux magazine today with a free CD on the cover and it till refuses to boot
[19:31] <DogWater> is vnc still the only way to remotely manage gnome/ubuntu desktop?
[19:32] <escott> DogWater, X11 is network capable
[19:32] <Socket-> urlin2u: can you tell me the IP for that?
[19:32] <Socket-> my dns isnt letting me resolve it
[19:32] <DogWater> escott: what's the easiest way? I just installed ubuntu-desktop on this box and I need to connect to the desktop via the network
[19:32] <CDB> i can normally get to "verifying DMI pool data"
[19:33] <ikonia> Socket-: spell it right
[19:33] <urlin2u> Socket-, I gave the http i don't know any other way.
[19:33] <CDB> then either it refuses to boot from CD or goes to grub
[19:33] <CDB> Ive tried all 6 options on Grum and none of them boot
[19:33] <escott> DogWater, depends on what you want. if you just want to get into another machine and maybe run a gui or two. "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" and then "ssh -X user@host"
[19:34] <Socket-> dan@caffeine:~$ sudo apt-get update
[19:34] <Socket-> 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com]
[19:34] <urlin2u> CDB, try holding down the f12 key at powering on.
[19:34] <Socket-> it freezes there, I dont have a choice to respell it
[19:34] <CDB> ive tried that but will try again
[19:34] <urlin2u> Socket-, you can open it from your chat.
[19:34] <ikonia> Socket-: ok, so the issue is not the url, your machine is having a problem
[19:35] <escott> DogWater, but if you arent comfortable with the command line and want to have a separate window for your remote system then !vnc is probably more your speed
[19:35] <urlin2u> my post what chat client are you using? Socket-
[19:35] <ikonia> Socket-: even if a url is invalid, it would not freeze your machine
[19:35] <Guest77064> ciao a tutti
[19:35] <ikonia> !list > Guest77064
[19:35] <CDB> held F12 and got a screen that says "phoenix - awardBIOS v6.00PG" at the bottom it sats Press F1 to continue
[19:36] <ikonia> CDB: what is your issue exactly ?
[19:36] <urlin2u> CDB, every computer has a bootfrom gui outside of the bios look for your key/keys prompt in your manual or the web.
[19:37] <Socket-> urlin2u: I am using a bash shell to run apt-get upgrade, and its saying: Something wicked happened resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:37] <CDB> the main problem is it wont boot at all, either from hard drive or CD drive. ive disconnected the CD drive and tried the hard drive and via versa
[19:37] <ikonia> CDB: what won't boot ?
[19:37] <CDB> any operating system
[19:37] <ikonia> CDB: ok - so that's not an ubuntu issue then
[19:37] <DogWater> escott: I am comfortable with CLI it's just that the instructions for bonding nics in Ubuntu contradicts itself in like 25 different places, and i think there is a way to do that in the GUI that perhaps will probably save me time trying to figure out what the hell they want me to do =)
[19:37] <Socket-> urlin2u: Im using irssi
[19:37] <ikonia> CDB: I suggest trying the ##hardware channel or a hardware vendor on local yo you
[19:37] <CDB> i can occasionally get to Grub, but no furthur
[19:38] <ikonia> CDB: I suggest trying the ##hardware channel or a hardware vendor on local yo you
[19:38] <CDB> are you saying im in the wrong forum?
[19:38] <CDB> if so how do i change?
[19:38] <ikonia> CDB: yes, this isn't an ubuntu issue
[19:38] <ikonia> CDB: type "/join ##hardware"
[19:38] <ikonia> CDB: or contact a computer repair shop local to you
[19:38] <CDB> THank you very much
[19:38] <escott> DogWater, so if you know what the gui tool you want to use is you can ssh -X and then start that program directly. thats by far the simplest approach
[19:40] <CDB> am in theh Hardware roomm adn talking so thanks and Goodbye
[19:41] <Guest77064> ciao a tutto il canale
[19:42] <urlin2u> Guest77064, english?
[19:43] <escott> !it | Guest77064
[19:44] <hdpb> What's the best way to share pic and music files between 2 users on the same desk/laptop?
[19:45] <escott> hdpb, linux->linux or linux->windows or linux->mac
[19:46] <urlin2u> hdpb, I would probably use a shared partition as is suggested by the questions above.
[19:46] <goddard> hdpb: an external hard drive that uses fat or ntfs
[19:47]  * Schrodinger`Cat
[19:47] <lzm_> hi
[19:47] <Ho^Oh> How can I fix this issue? mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 mdadm:                cannot open /proc/partitions                   I can't mount into my raid0
[19:47]  * Ho^Oh pets Schrodinger`Cat.
[19:47]  * Ho^Oh then watches as Schrodinger`Cat die :S
[19:48] <Schrodinger`Cat> dont dream at this, you cannot know if im :)
[19:48] <escott> Ho^Oh, sudo
[19:48] <Ho^Oh> escott: I'm in as root.
[19:48] <Oins> Hi. I have a couple of images (IMGP4342.JPG-  IMGP5634.JPG) and tried to render a video with ffmpeg. Tried the parameter -i IMGP$04d.JPG. But i get  IMGP%04d.JPG: No such file or directory. Can anyone give me a hint?
[19:49] <hdpb> escott:Ubuntu -> Ubuntu each has their own user
[19:49] <Ho^Oh> I'm on a debian live CD working on my ubuntu raid0 harddrives.
[19:49] <escott> Ho^Oh, are you chrooted in? did you bind mount /proc? does cat /proc/partitions list your disks
[19:50] <Ho^Oh> I can't chroot. I have to mount my raid first.
[19:50] <Ho^Oh> And nothing is in /proc/partitions -.-
[19:50] <escott> hdpb, create a group for the two users and create a folder for that group in /home. add both users to that group
[19:50] <Guest77064> matrix
[19:51] <urlin2u> Guest77064, can you post in english and do you have a support question?
[19:51] <urlin2u> max
[19:52] <hdpb> escott: That's what I thought. Can I link from there to both users' /home/music etc and still have read/write for both?
[19:52] <escott> hdpb, also set the setgid bit on the directory so that newly created files are in the shared group
[19:52] <escott> hdpb, absolutely
[19:52] <escott> hdpb, and be careful when adding groups to users with usermod to always use -a flag
[19:53] <hdpb> Thanks!
[19:54] <escott> Ho^Oh, thats really odd. try partprobe to get the kernel to rescan the partition table. are the disks appearing in /dev? anything relevant in dmesg?
[19:55] <Ho^Oh> partprobe can no be found -.-
[19:55] <Ho^Oh> It's appearing in /dev/ though.
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> Ho^Oh: if your partitions etc don't show in a debian live cd (not ubuntu), i'd ask in #debian
[19:58] <urlin2u> Guest77064, you are not on the channel that was given for the language you posted if you continue to just post gibberish you will be banned evetually.
[19:58] <escott> Ho^Oh, echo 1 > /sys/block/sdX/device/rescan
[19:58] <DogWater> escott: dang, the server version doesn't have the configuration stuff
[20:04] <olivier> #bookz
[20:04] <Mish-> Last attempt at asking for help!. :) - When I instll Ubuntu 11.10 and have partitions in an LVM (/home, /var, /usr for example) the system won't boot as it can't mount these. I've repeated this on two different servers.
[20:04] <Mish-> Any help would be appreciated.
[20:04] <Ho^Oh> escott: The best thing I can do not is find a way to destroy my raid0 set up.             Delete the harddrives, and start all over again.
[20:04] <Ho^Oh> I can do is *
[20:04] <escott> Ho^Oh, make sure mdadm modules are loaded? try a different livecd if its not detecting the hardware?
[20:04] <escott> Mish-, do you have /boot outside of the lvm?
[20:04] <Ho^Oh> My options are limited, I'm doing this remotely.
[20:04] <_numbers> what might i have changed in my xorg conf to make it so my mouse works across 4 screens but my keyboard is limited to 1 screen?
[20:04] <Ho^Oh> escott: Nothing inportant on my raid, I want to just delete and start over.
[20:05] <tasty> anyone tell me where I can find help with apache, what channel I should go to?
[20:05] <tero> tasty #ubuntu-server
[20:06] <tasty> tero: thanks man!
[20:06] <Guest77064> ciao
[20:06] <Guest77064> ciao
[20:07] <_numbers> anyone else here have a 4-monitor setup?
[20:07] <Neshemah> Bye
[20:08] <Mish-> escott: Yes, "/" and "/boot" are outside the LVM, but "/home, /var, /usr and swap" are inside it.  Yet when it boots it gets stuck at "waiting for /home" for example.  Tried two rebuilds and two servers.
[20:08] <escott> Mish-, sounds like it is not loading lvm modules because it doesn't think they are needed. you need to update /etc/modules.d
[20:09] <Mish-> escott: From a LiveCD or similar?
[20:10] <escott> Mish-, if root is mounted just ctrl-alt-f1
[20:11] <tasty> those guys in ubunutu-server are dead
[20:11] <log> !anyone | _numbers
[20:11] <tasty> anyone with exp. in apache2 could tell me if this looks wonky? http://pastie.org/3362703
[20:12] <_numbers> i changed my xorg.conf and now my keyboard only works on one of my 4 screens. oddly enough the mouse works across all 4 screens still.
[20:12] <_numbers> i'm trying to get a quad monitor setup working without xinerama
[20:12] <escott> _numbers, is the keyboard not working or is the window manager not granting focus to the other screens
[20:13] <_numbers> escott: no keys appear to work on the other screens at all. for example if i right click on desktop and choose new folder then try to type in a label for it, nothing
[20:13] <ghostrider> hello
[20:13] <_numbers> but it works perfectly on the first screen
[20:14] <_numbers> or if i press alt+f2 the launcher dialog appears on the first screen even though i might have focus on a window from one of the other screens
[20:14] <_numbers> actually scratch that. the launcher dialog will only appear if i focus a window on the first screen
[20:14] <escott> _numbers, so if you have a terminal on screen 1 and drag it over to screen 2 does the keyboard stop working
[20:14] <_numbers> i have clone set to off; so i cant drag windows between screens
[20:14] <rlbxbeas> i give up, i know nothing about computers -_-
[20:14] <_numbers> xinerama is off
[20:15] <_numbers> if i grab a window and drag, it like wraps around to the other side of the screen
[20:16] <_numbers> im willing to live with that so i can have nvidia glx hardware rendering, i just need the kb to work tho
[20:16] <StrangeCharm> I've just created a new user account for running a program that has special permission needs. How do I give this user write access to / ?
[20:17] <bantamug> hi - anybody got experience using a lenovo T400 and ubuntu 11.10? can't get the power usage below 30W in powertop, was previously about 15W
[20:17] <ikonia> StrangeCharm: look at the permissions on /
[20:17] <escott> _numbers, never heard of a setup like that but if you want to post your xorg.conf I can look at it
[20:17] <_numbers> escott: http://hastebin.com/mixayifali.cmake
[20:18] <_numbers> Screen 1 is the only one the kb works on
[20:18] <StrangeCharm> ikonia: / is owned by root who has rwx, and everyone else has r-x
[20:18] <_numbers> oh actually nvm its Screen 0
[20:18] <ikonia> StrangeCharm: look at the group
[20:19] <StrangeCharm> ikonia: The group is also root.
[20:19] <_numbers> so i just tried right-clicking on the other 3 desktops and when i try to create a folder then type the name of the folder... the typing appears here on my chat window on screen 0
[20:19] <StrangeCharm> And also has r-x.
[20:19] <_numbers> so maybe its not giving focus to the other screens
[20:19] <ikonia> StrangeCharm: ok - so you either have to add the user to the group, change the permissions, or change the group
[20:20] <_numbers> oh they also dont have window decorations i just noticed. i mean the file menu is there but not the title of the window or the X _ [_]  buttons
[20:20] <_numbers> but gnome panels are visible on the top and bottom of each screen
[20:20] <_numbers> only the screen 0 has window decorations
[20:21] <escott> _numbers, you need to find a window manager that understands this setup and will actually handle all the screens
[20:21] <StrangeCharm> ikonia: got it
[20:21] <_numbers> any recommendations? i thought gnome would handle it. i am on ubuntu 11.04. maybe upgrading?
[20:21] <escott> _numbers, right now the window manager is only handling screen0
[20:21] <strat-o-caster> Hi, Has anybody used festival with jack?  I have module-jack-sink working fine, but when I try to use festival, it seems to just hang...
[20:21] <escott> _numbers, no a clue. def not gnome3, probably not metacity
[20:22] <escott> _numbers, try something more configurable like maybe a fluxbox?
[20:22] <_numbers> escott: ok how about the issue of windows not dragging between. is that an xorg limitation of my config or is that also a window manager limitation that might be fixed in another?
[20:22] <_numbers> escott: i am familiar with awesomewm and will try that
[20:22] <strat-o-caster> I'm wondering if I can just change the Audio_Command infestival.scm?
[20:23] <escott> _numbers, with xinerama disabled i dont know that it would work well. thats kinda what xinerama is for
[20:25] <_numbers> escott: its just that xinerama appears mutually exclusive with  nvidia glx hardware rendering
[20:26] <unda7V7erse> hi everyone
[20:26] <escott> _numbers, complain to nvidia... they also don't support the most recent xrandr extensions
[20:26] <unda7V7erse> could someone tell me what I've to add to my source to update my apache with apt-get ?
[20:28] <tasty> man those guys in ubuntu-server are fucking morons
[20:28] <pangolin> tasty: no swearing
[20:29] <tasty> man those guys in ubuntu-server are f*cking morons
[20:30] <unda7V7erse> what does it mean tasty ?
[20:30] <kockasecera> how to install windows explorer on ubuntu??
[20:30] <pangolin> !ie4linux
[20:30] <pangolin> hmm
[20:30] <escott> unda7V7erse, you could look for a ppa if you wanted but your apache is already updated to the most recent version supported and tested for your ubuntu release
[20:30] <unda7V7erse> why do you want to do such abomination kockasecera ?
[20:31] <tasty> alright, I won't swear anymore
[20:31] <auronandace> !ies4linux | kockasecera
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> kockasecera: there is ies4linux but its not great
[20:31] <unda7V7erse> :C escott ok thnaks so I've to used that godamn mod rewrite feature....
[20:31] <kockasecera> thanks..
[20:32] <jeroen-> Ubuntu One only sync new created files and folders (in the default ~/Ubuntu One, and in custom synced folders). How to let Ubuntu One also sync existing files and folders?
[20:34] <liquidee> Hello. I have installed ubuntu and have a problem with high battery discharge rate. Discharge current is ~2500 mA - is this normal to ubuntu? The laptop gets really warm. Its cooler on windows 7.
[20:35] <dtmbmw325i> jeroen-, the files and folders you want to sync must be in the home directory. Just right click and select sync with ubuntu one
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> liquidee: what make and model laptop????
[20:35] <Companion> liquidee, there is a ppa for that
[20:35] <jeroen-> dtmbmw325i:  they are and I did
[20:35] <liquidee> msi fx620dx
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> liquidee: are there any bugs reported?
[20:35] <jeroen-> dtmbmw325i:  only new files are synced
[20:35] <Mish-> escott: I'm "in" now, there is no "modules.d"
[20:36] <dtmbmw325i> jeroen-: if the folder has a green check mark it should be synced
[20:36] <escott> Mish-, /etc/modules sorry
[20:36] <jeroen-> dtmbmw325i:  I tell you. Only new created files and folders are synced, not the already existing ones
[20:36] <Mish-> escott: That files contains "loop, lp and rtc".
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> liquidee: do you have the latest BIOS?
[20:37] <dtmbmw325i> jeroen-, how did you confirm that?
[20:37] <liquidee> ActionParsnip hmm, i dont know - i didnt upgrade it
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> liquidee: may be needed
[20:37] <escott> Mish-, you need to add the mdadm module. its probably mdadm
[20:38] <Mish-> Even though I'm not using mdadm, just lvm?
[20:38] <liquidee> ActionParsnip you think updating bios would help it?
[20:38] <escott> Mish-, im sorry lvm module then
[20:38] <jeroen-> dtmbmw325i:  because only the new files and folders are on the web site, and there's not further activity
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> liquidee: possibly, its good to get anyway
[20:39] <liquidee> ActionParsnip: is there any possibility that ubuntu enabled both video cards from optimus?
[20:39] <liquidee> ActionParsnip: is there any way to check it?
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> liquidee: optimus is not supported by nvidia for Linux, they have refused to support anything but Windows
[20:39] <MoleMan> escott: I know its a big ask but could you take me through the process of what I need to do and change  to move my system to LVM?
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> liquidee: there is a project called bumblebee but you will probably get a LOT of issues with it
[20:40] <escott> Mish-, it looks like you just need device-mapper which is dm-mod
[20:41] <liquidee> ActionParsnip: i am wondering how ubuntu got X to work, when i have installed arch linux and tried to install any drivers i couldnt get it to work
[20:41] <escott> MoleMan, so i've never actually done it. I just know the basic principles of the process. i couldn't help on all the specific vg commands. you might want to see if someone like Mish- can help
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> liquidee: got X to work in what way?
[20:41] <escott> MoleMan, that is assuming that we can get Mish- booting
[20:42] <liquidee> ActionParsnip: i didnt manage to get X working on arch, but when i installed ubuntu they were automagically working
[20:42] <liquidee> ActionParsnip: im wondering what makes the laptop so hot on ubuntu, its WAY cooler on windows 7
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> liquidee: I suggest you read /var/log/Xorg.0.log then
[20:43] <liquidee> ActionParsnip: and the battery works longer
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> liquidee: support from MSI making it cooler
[20:43] <Raggs> i get this error when trying to run update manager  The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.
[20:43] <zorael> If you hit Alt+SysRq+R to set "keyboard mode" to default, is there a way to put it back to normal?
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> liquidee: optimus isn't supported in Linux so there will be software to make it all run under Windows. There is not so much love given to Linux so it doesn't run as well
[20:44] <MoleMan> hmm, OK
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> liquidee: its all down to money, companies have to spend time and resources making drivers and such, they will get more return supporting Windows so they support that more,
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> liquidee: if youo
[20:45] <escott> Mish-, seems like they may have changed the kernel module name. im not clear on what it is called these days. what module did you have to modprobe to create the partitions and mount them when constructing the lvm array
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> liquidee: you'd researched to see what works first before you bought you would have known to avoid Optimus technology
[20:46] <liquidee> ActionParsnip: yeah, but i didnt even think i will install linux on lap that time : P
[20:46] <liquidee> ActionParsnip: i will try the bumblebee
[20:47] <liquidee> ActionParsnip:  and see if the discharge current gets lower
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> liquidee: i've never seen a success story with optimus
[20:47] <dtmbmw325i> jeroen-: did you try unsyncing the folder and resyncing it?
[20:47] <jeroen-> dtmbmw325i:  many times
[20:47] <liquidee> wtf
[20:47] <Mathuin> I have added a repository to my sources (the Ubuntu X Swat one) and updated apt-get but it does not see the package in the repository that I want (nvidia-graphics-drivers).  Help!
[20:48] <liquidee> ActionParsnip: what about ironhide?
[20:48] <liquidee> ActionParsnip: when i was trying to add bumblebee repository i got this message
[20:48] <liquidee> ActionParsnip: You are about to add the following PPA to your system:
[20:48] <liquidee>  The Bumblebee Project
[20:48] <liquidee>  PLEASE DON'T USE THIS ANYMORE...
[20:48] <FloodBot1> liquidee: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:48] <liquidee> Move to the Ironhide project instead:
[20:49] <sun_devil> Does anyone know how to set owner and group  RWX access but not to anyone else
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> liquidee: add that then. Its not something I am interested in and I will be avoiding it like paris hilton avoids talent
[20:49] <Raggs> chmod 700 dir
[20:50] <dtmbmw325i> !chmod
[20:50] <Raggs> sun_devil,  chmod 700
[20:50] <Mathuin> When I add the repositories by hand to /etc/apt/sources.list, it tells me they are duplicated, so they're obviously there already.
[20:51] <sun_devil> Ok, what is chmod 770?
[20:51] <escott> Mathuin, have you checked /etc/apt/
[20:51] <dtmbmw325i> sun_devil, I think it is user and group.
[20:51] <Mathuin> escott: what should I check in that directory?
[20:52] <Raggs> the command to do what you want sun_devil chmod 700 dir-name
[20:53] <escott> Mathuin, /etc/apt/sources.list.d gets pulled in and added to the other sources.list
[20:53] <Mathuin> escott, the repository is definitely there.
[20:53] <Mathuin> In fact, when I go to install nvidia-settings, it takes the one from that repo.
[20:53] <dtmbmw325i> sun_devil, do you have access to the folder right now?
[20:53] <Mathuin> But it's like it's not reading it to update the list of packages.
[20:53] <sun_devil> yes in root
[20:53] <Mathuin> It only gave me nvidia-settings because it saw that before in the main.
[20:54] <Mathuin> Is there a way to force an update?
[20:54] <dtmbmw325i> sun_devil, I think you will have to chown it first
[20:54] <dtmbmw325i> !chown
[20:54] <graft> does anyone else have a problem with their terminal stepping across double-wide characters correctly? i.e. if you paste this into your terminal as input, can you edit it? }🌀{
[20:54] <Mathuin> *NOT* an upgrade. :-)
[20:54] <TheLegace> hi does anyone know if the bumblebee drivers fully support OpenGL?
[20:55] <TheLegace> ok..nvm its not a problem anymore
[20:55] <log> graft: I can arrow-key through the characters properly, but the selector appears on top of the first two characters
[20:55] <sun_devil> I have a dir called /opt changed the group name to account and owner but owner and group need  rwx access
[20:55] <escott> Mathuin, does it Hit the desired repo when you apt-get update?
[20:56] <graft> log: does it appear where you think it should? like can you intelligibly delete characters?
[20:56] <log> log: I mean, on top of the wide character
[20:56] <log> er
[20:56] <log> graft: ^
[20:56] <Mathuin> It hits ppa.launchpad.net but I have that for ubuntu-wine as well as ubuntu-x-swat
[20:56] <sun_devil> so to set the user and group access use 770
[20:56] <Mathuin> I removed /var/lib/apt/lists/*swat* and re-ran update, and those files were replaced.
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> Mathuin: xorg edgers has an update ppa (less fresh more stable)
[20:57] <bturnip> hola #ubuntu folks
[20:57] <Mathuin> I will give that a swing once I figure out what the heck is wrong here.
[20:58] <dtmbmw325i> sun_devil: yes try chmod 770
[20:58] <bturnip> looking for help on new computer that came with ubuntu pre-installed.  I'm not getting anything when I put a disc in the dvd drive
[20:58] <erick_> quit
[20:58] <Mathuin> escott, I ran the command "grep nvidia-graphics-drivers /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa* and it shows up.
[20:58] <ehriq> j #ubuntu-br
[20:58] <dtmbmw325i> sun_devil, I usually right click on the folder and select properties and change permission there
[20:58] <graft> log: for me, it appears to backspace over the 🌀 twice (as if it were two blocks), but then after that it gets confused
[20:59] <log> graft: pretty much the same for me
[20:59] <graft> log: seems like a bug...
[20:59] <log> graft: the rightmost brace appears on top of the wide character
[21:00] <log> yes, most likely
[21:00] <mernilio> sorry for asking, but where is your off-topic channel?
[21:00] <log> !offtopic | mernilio
[21:01] <Mathuin> ActionParsnip, I will try to add the xorg-edgers PPA and see if it causes the same trouble.
[21:01] <mernilio> i dont want to wast you time .. im a busy man! :-|
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> Mathuin: if you just install the driver, then remove it then its ok :)
[21:01] <log> mernilio: no worries :)
[21:02] <Mathuin> ActionParsnip: I'm here because of a failed installation of 290.10 from Nvidia just so I can do CUDA and OpenCL.  Looks like I can do those if I give up graphics. :-)
[21:02] <chaos_zero> Hello. I have an ubuntu server running doing other stuff. i am looking to configure one ethernet connection to directly upload/download files from it. (this would be a windows HTPC) this would of course be LAN only. What is the fastest, easiest way to do this? i dont need security of any kind on it, but i only want it to run on one specific network interface.
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> Mathuin: have you tried an xorg.conf file?
[21:02] <cis> brb
[21:03] <Mathuin> ActionParsnip, I let nvidia-xconfig build one but it did not work.
[21:03] <mernilio> !quit
[21:03] <ikonia> chaos_zero: tftp or ftp
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> chaos_zero: if its on the same LAN then you can access the system. You can make network shares with samba or openssh-server to get an SFTP server
[21:04] <Mathuin> Is /etc/X11/xorg.conf still the right spot for xorg.conf in Oneiric?
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> Mathuin: same place, same in all distros
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> Mathuin: if you run:   sudo nvidia-xconfig    it will make one for you, you can always drop to root recovery console to fix if it makes issues
[21:05] <CharminTheMoose> How do I get /lib/modules/<version> to read '<version>-002'?
[21:06] <Mathuin> ActionParsnip, I just ran sudo nvidia-xconfig, I'm going to reboot that box and see what happens.
[21:06] <chaos_zero> thank you for the replies. is their a package that you would recommend? what is the apt-get name>?
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> CharminTheMoose: symlink maybe
[21:07] <Mish-> escott: This just gets weirder... "/dev/mapper/vg0-usr" is mounting correctly, but "/dev/mapper/vg0-home" won't mount until I run "vgchange -ay" then it does, but then on reboot it won't mount until I run that command again...
[21:08] <lolcat^> Hello
[21:08] <lolcat^> What is the ligthest version of x that can run boxee box?
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> lolcat^: x is x...
[21:08] <ikonia> lolcat^: there is only one version of X
[21:08] <escott> Mish-, what does that command do? you could try and put it in rc.local but i think rc.local is after mount -a
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> lolcat^: do you mean desktop environment
[21:08] <lolcat^> I mean desktop enviroment or whatever
[21:09] <pangolin> Lubuntu is pretty light
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> lolcat^: install openbox and it will be super light, doesn't even need a DE
[21:09] <lolcat^> I am trying to setup a media center on a 600mhz duron or 1.2 ghz athlon
[21:09] <lolcat^> DE?
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> desktop environment
[21:09] <lolcat^> I need almost nothing because I will run everything inside boxee
[21:09] <CharminTheMoose> ActionParsnip, wait no, I think the 'local version - append to kernel release' and 'automatically append version information to the version string' kernel options do what I want..
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> lolcat^: yeah, throw openbox on and it will be super light
[21:09] <lolcat^> Awesome
[21:10] <lolcat^> Will this setup be able to play youtube?
[21:10] <icecdocorp> >> lolcat. Would those specs be enough to decode mkv or other hi res codecs?
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> lolcat^: sure
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> lolcat^: just not fullscreen probably
[21:10] <Rurd2di> /var/lib/sudo writable by non-owner (040777), should be mode 0700
[21:10] <Rurd2di> errr
[21:10] <Luigi_> Hi,need help: 1.) How do I get bssid,device mac address,clone mac address,mtu and dhcp client id?  2.) Get two errors when editing/saving the configuaration: "gdk-Critical: gdk_window_get_pointer: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed" and "Gtk-Warning **: No object called: wireless_device_mac' failed"         What do these two errors mean? and how to solve the problem?
[21:11] <Mathuin> ActionParsnip, sorry about that -- was running xchat on that box, heh.  Anyway, the kernel log tells me there's some other driver in the way.  How do I see what kernel modules are installed, and remove them?  modprobe and friends?
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> Rurd2di: chmod it to how it says, sounds like you've been messing with the file when you were editting it
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> Mathuin: try blacklisting nouveau and nv
[21:13] <Mathuin> ActionParsnip, just by adding "blacklist nouveau" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf ?
[21:13] <lolcat^> icecdocorp: I am not sure about the gpu
[21:13] <lolcat^> I have like three diffrent video cards here
[21:14] <lolcat^> it won't let me press continiue :/
[21:15] <pangolin> lolcat^: what won't let you press continue?
[21:15] <lolcat^> The ubuntu installer
[21:15] <lolcat^> It asked me to fix network and 4.4gb space
[21:15] <lolcat^> it then said it was ok
[21:15] <lolcat^> I told it to download updates and thrid parties
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Mathuin: if you like, you could even make your own file in the modprobe.d folder and it willwork (must have .conf extension)
[21:15] <lolcat^> And then it won't go to the next step
[21:15] <Mathuin> Wow.  It's up.
[21:16] <Mathuin> That blacklist thing was key.
[21:16] <pangolin> lolcat^: might be working, give a minute or 3
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> lolcat^: don't use the install updates or 3rd party options, in can help
[21:16] <Mathuin> Thank you very much for your help.
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> Mathuin: np man
[21:16] <lolcat^> I tried pressing abort, now it is just the loading thing
[21:16] <Mathuin> The bot needs to let me give you a thumbs up. :-P :-)
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> !cookie | Mathuin
[21:17] <Mathuin> Hahahaha!
[21:17] <Mathuin> !cookie | ActionParsnip
[21:17] <Mathuin> Have a nice day. :-)
[21:17] <Luigi_> ,need help: 1.) How do I get bssid,device mac address,clone mac address,mtu and dhcp client id?  2.) Get two errors when editing/saving the configuaration: "gdk-Critical: gdk_window_get_pointer: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed" and "Gtk-Warning **: No object called: wireless_device_mac' failed"         What do these two errors mean? and how to solve the problem?
[21:17] <Guest65325> does anybody know how to put nightingale on the launcher
[21:17] <lolcat^> Now the screen turned black
[21:17] <lolcat^> Computer is still on
[21:18] <lolcat^> Now it is grey
[21:18] <pangolin> lolcat^: we don't need a blow by blow :)
[21:18] <lolcat^> But I need help to install UBuntu on a duron 600mhz
[21:18] <lolcat^> or athlon 1.2ghz
[21:19] <MoleMan> escott: or Mish- you two get sorted?
[21:19] <Paddy_NI> I seem to have quite a random bug, when I boot ubuntu 11.04 32bit and it reaches GDM I have dead keys? Once I login everything is fine and back to normal..
[21:20] <Paddy_NI> Any Ideas?
[21:20] <jn_> how can i remove shader pixel in wine -1.4
[21:20] <pangolin> jn_: #winehq
[21:20] <AFeatheryAnacond> Would running this command delete my current raid0 setup? mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=0 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb2
[21:21] <kapz> how do I change the grub background colour and hence half of boot time background colour?
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> lolcat^: if you have a web connection, try running:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ubiquity gparted      Then install. May help
[21:21] <lolcat^> ActionParsnip: I am on the live cd
[21:21] <lolcat^> And all I see is the backround image
[21:21] <sun_devil> my permissions show drwxr-xr-x in my user group and then a (4) digit number and date
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> kapz: http://ubuntuguide.net/an-easy-way-to-addchange-grub2-background-image-in-ubuntu-11-04
[21:22] <lolcat^> When I move the mouse it lags
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> lolcat^: what GPU do you use?
[21:23] <sun_devil> how do you create a symbolic link to a certain directory
[21:23] <spaceneedle> When I press the windows key and the tab at terminal I get: Display 2217 possibilities (Y or N).  Wonder what it is for?
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> sun_devil: ln -s source dest
[21:23] <kapz> ActionParsnip: Thanks, then is it really the grub image that 'splashes' almost HALF the boot time?
[21:24] <lolcat^> ActionParsnip: I think it is an ATI AGP card
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> spaceneedle: the tab complete is usually to suggest commands, you didn't give any restriction so you got EVERY command on your system
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> lolcat^: try the boot option: nomodeset
[21:24] <lolcat^> I would normaly do lspci but it isn't done
[21:24] <lolcat^> Where do I set boot options?
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset
[21:24] <Guest65325> does anybody know how to put nightingale on the launcher
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> !info nightingale
[21:25] <escott> Mish-, have you tried updating the initramfs with update-initramfs?
[21:25] <Guest65325> its not a package i installed it from source
[21:25] <lolcat^> ActionParsnip: I no longer have a black screen, it just painfully loads the desktop
[21:26] <Guest65325> im able to use it but only with the terminal pointing to it
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> Guest65325: if you make a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications   you will not only see it in dash you will be able to drag it to the unity bar
[21:26] <sun_devil> How do you do the link in the /etc/skel
[21:26] <sun_devil> newbe
[21:27] <Mish-> escott: I think I've found out that it's "too fast" the hardware RAID controller hasn't made itself available at that point in the boot, how can I get the system to wait 20 seconds just before it tries to mount the disks?
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> sun_devil: where do you want the link to go to...
[21:27] <sun_devil> to a directory
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> sun_devil: just run:   cd /etc/skel           then run:  sudo ln -s source dest
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> sun_devil: as you are in the same place you want the link, you can omit dest
[21:28] <sun_devil> thanks
[21:28] <sun_devil> yes Iam in the directory
[21:28] <franzmaulwurf> hi
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> sun_devil: then link away :)
[21:28] <sun_devil> should I do this in the home directory
[21:29] <escott> Mish-, i think you can put a kernel delay in
[21:30] <sun_devil> I think it did it
[21:32] <Guest65325> im confused i tried everything how exactly do i make the .desktop launcher
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> Guest65325: here is one to run guake: http://paste.ubuntu.com/838333/  just edit it to run what you wish
[21:33] <escott> Mish-, try the rootdelay kernel argument
[21:33] <spaceneedle> Does anyone know if Oneric is working better on the dell d610's? They were supposed to fix it.  It was slow the last time I tried it.
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> Guest65325: you will need to run:  gksudo gedit /usr/share/applications/nightingale.desktop     to get write access
[21:34] <Rurd2di> samba restart in ubuntu 11.10?
[21:34] <Rurd2di> all commands dont work
[21:34] <Rurd2di> i was told before
[21:34] <Rurd2di> zzz
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> Rurd2di: sudo service smbd stop; sudo smbd start
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> spaceneedle: try lubuntu, its nice and light
[21:35] <jgrevich> Any idea why hostname -f only yields hostname, not hostname + domain?
[21:35] <rostyslav> Hi
[21:35] <Sae-boulot> hi
[21:36] <spaceneedle> Many people seem  to like Lubuntu. I guess I'll try it out on my Dell d610.
[21:37] <MoleMan> escott: Still here? (bloody wireless, now remember why I put a hole in my wall)
[21:37] <icecdocorp> spaceneedle >> It that because of performance issues?
[21:38] <Rurd2di> thanks and
[21:38] <Rurd2di> sudo: /var/lib/sudo writable by non-owner (040777), should be mode 0700
[21:38] <escott> MoleMan, yes, but im not sure what i can tell you. If you just want to run things buy us thats fine
[21:38] <Rurd2di> how to fix that?
[21:38] <MoleMan> escott: You manage to get Mish- working or not?
[21:38] <escott> Rurd2di, did you do a chmod -R / at some point?
[21:38] <Rurd2di> yer
[21:38] <Rurd2di> probs
[21:39] <escott> MoleMan, he thinks his issue is that his hardware needs a boot delay to give it time to initialize
[21:39] <escott> Rurd2di, you need to reinstall
[21:39] <Daniel-3qt32ngew> How do I delete entire linux partition?
[21:39] <rostyslav> I looking for a good advise, anyone can help with linux issues?
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> Daniel-3qt32ngew: use gparted in LiveCD, or windows OS if you dual boot
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> rostyslav: ask away
[21:40] <Daniel-3qt32ngew> Problem is, I didn't dual boot. I am only running linux. I'm trying to install Windows XP after deleting linux partition
[21:40] <Zw> hi
[21:41] <Zw> I need some php help :P Totaly wrong channel, but where to ask?
[21:41] <escott> Daniel-3qt32ngew, you dont need to delete linux in that case. just install windows and tell it to overwrite what is present
[21:41] <sun_devil> what is skel, a config file?
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> Daniel-3qt32ngew: then you will need to tell the XP CD to delete the ubuntu partitions, either way its not an ubuntu issue
[21:41] <Gentoo64> sun_devil, normally a skeleton ie template
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> Daniel-3qt32ngew: ask in ##windows
[21:41] <escott> sun_devil, its a folder that constains the templates for a new users initial files like .bashrc and .profile
[21:42] <Daniel-3qt32ngew> Right, I took the Windows XP .iso and put the bootloader on USB and it wouldn't boot.
[21:42] <rostyslav> I bsd user and admin, with linux so so... >I have uubunto, there is problem with partition, looks like it lost, can someone help me?
[21:42] <MoleMan> escott: In order to create a separate boot partition, what do I need to do? how much space do I need? is it literally copy the /boot folder?
[21:43] <sun_devil> yes, man pages do not describe it
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> rostyslav: the OS is called Ubuntu, not ubunto
[21:44] <escott> you need a /boot partition doesn't have to be too big just needs to hold the kernel and initrd. 1gb is plenty
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> rostyslav: if you run:  sudo fdisk -l     do you see the partition?
[21:44] <rostyslav> ok, sorry this is spanish keboard
[21:44] <rostyslav> keyboard
[21:45] <rostyslav> yes
[21:45] <MoleMan> escott: OK, I'm going to go sort a partition on the HDD, I'll be back ASAP
[21:45] <escott> MoleMan, see above. you can create that partition and then copy the files over. you'll have to update the fstab and mount the copied /boot onto /boot (hiding what was underneath) then install grub
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> rostyslav: then mount it and you willhave access to the data..
[21:46] <AFeatheryAnacond> In case anyone Wanted to know how I was DEBOOTSTRAP installing Ubuntu Server -inside- RAID0, I was using these tutorials: http://www.israelremixteam.com/how-to-set-up-a-software-mdadm-raid-0-array-in-linux-t612.html          http://forum.ovh.co.uk/showthread.php?t=3787
[21:46] <bananstol> anyone tried to set up an rdp server on ubuntu and use the ipad 2 to connet to it?
[21:46] <escott> MoleMan, at that point I would check that things boot so you know that your new /boot is working
[21:46] <AFeatheryAnacond> I just do not understand why my server still wont magically load for me.
[21:46] <AFeatheryAnacond> I of course replaced sda       with md0
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> bananstol: what are you connecting to the remote system to achieve?
[21:47] <bellman> how do u print the rootpass?   i tried su -vvvv but is that only for red hat
[21:47] <rostyslav> I installed over ubuntu fedora 16 (looks more s-l to FreeBSD)... so later I decided to get back to Ubuntu (it was on different partition), the only i see there now - is lvm2 WITH LOST AND FOUND FOLDER
[21:47] <takuan_dozo> I'm having a problem upgrading with the message "trying to overwrite /usr/lib/gtk-3.0/3.0.0' which is also in package gtk3-engines-unico"
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> bellman: there is no root password, the account is simply disabled
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> !noroot | bellman
[21:47] <takuan_dozo> couldn't find anything about it on google
[21:47] <bananstol> ActionParsnip: i've tried issh, mocha lita and rdp viewer(i think is the name) no go. it works fine on my windows 7 computer with the standard rdp client
[21:48] <lolcat^> Hello
[21:48] <lolcat^> How can tehre be an unknow amount of space used on a harddisk?
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> bananstol: but what would you be doing on the remote desktop?
[21:48] <bananstol> ah
[21:48] <takuan_dozo> basically the machine is useless since all gtk-related stuff can't be configured
[21:48] <bananstol> different stuff. browsing for example
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> bananstol: as in web browsing?
[21:48] <bananstol> yes
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> bananstol: doesn't your ipad hav a web browser?
[21:49] <rostyslav> ActionParsnip, can you help me...?
[21:49] <bananstol> what do you think
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> bananstol: no idea, i don't buy apple rubbish...
[21:49] <bananstol> i see. it does
[21:49] <takuan_dozo> nobody here can help me?
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> bananstol: then why connect to another system to web browse?
[21:50] <bananstol> i acutally got it from my job as a christmas present
[21:50] <bananstol> ActionParsnip: for example, flash support
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> bananstol: yeah, thats a bit of a kicker on apple stuff :D
[21:50] <Rurd2di> eer escott why would i re need to reinstall
[21:50] <Rurd2di> wtf
[21:50] <Rurd2di> i just reinstalled
[21:50] <Rurd2di> and i can igonore it
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> rostyslav: I have zero experience of lvm
[21:51] <bananstol> indeed it is
[21:51] <rostyslav> who in this chat can help me with ubuntu LVM2 partition (actually couple partitions under LVM2)
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> bananstol: you could use LTSP, or you may be able to use VNC. If you can get an X server on the ipad, you can connect via SSH with x forwaring enabled and run your apps in terminal. They will be processed on the server but be displayed on the ipad
[21:52] <escott> Rurd2di, because your systems permissions are all wrong, presumably because you did something like sudo chmod ### / which you should NEVER do
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> Rurd2di: the permissions in the file system are very exact but you just steamrolled through and changed them ALL, so your OS will misbehave, you COULD set them right cut it will take a LONG time. It will be easier to reinstall then restore your data from backup
[21:53] <log> !anyone | rostyslav
[21:55] <sun_devil> Iam messing with my system but in VMware, have  a copy of Rhel5 in it
[21:55] <escott> lolcat^, what FS is this
[21:55] <coyote_> what's a daemon?
[21:55] <sun_devil> computer
[21:55] <escott> coyote_, a process that runs in the background
[21:56] <takuan_dozo> nice
[21:56] <takuan_dozo> xorg seems to be quite borked
[21:56] <coyote_> can it be stopped?
[21:56] <sun_devil> daemon is similiar to demon
[21:56] <bananstol> thanks for the tips ActionParsnip
[21:56] <sun_devil> Thanks for helping me also ActionParsnip
[21:57] <rostyslav> ubottu: If I have as part of my question -can- why should I put there does?
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> coyote_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(computing)
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> sun_devil: bananstol np :)
[21:57] <Ho^Oh> Is there something I should know about when it comes to GRUB installing for a raid harddisk?
[21:58] <sun_devil> bananstol np?
[21:58] <escott> Ho^Oh, other than that it may not work :)
[21:59] <WhiteEye> Hi Friends!! :D
[21:59] <tasty> ./join #ubuntu-server
[21:59] <escott> Ho^Oh, you really need to figure out the exact chipset you are using and the version of your bios etc so you can identify the fakeraid you are using and then start searching the web to see if anyone has ever gotten it to work
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> np == no problem
[22:01] <kermit_> hi jemand deutsches hier, der einen ubuntu anfänger beim thema flackern beim arbeitsflächenwechsel mit compiz helfen kann?
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> !de
[22:01] <mercury_> hello everyone
[22:01] <cfhowlett> mercury_: gretings
[22:02] <sun_devil> when you create new users you can use a different template directory for each one?
[22:03] <green_> my second comp won't boot it says /root/dev failed /root/sys failed /root/proc/ failed no such file or directory any way to fix this?
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> sun_devil: default user settings are in /etc/adduser.conf     you can make a new conf file and use:   adduser --conf FILENAME
[22:04] <rostyslav> Hey people... Here is the story. I have ubuntu 10.xx, the decided to install fedora 16, on another partition, later fedora I wanted to get back to ubuntu, but I found instead ubuntu partition - LVM2. Tried to use testdisk, gparted, easerecovery etc... nothing helps, I can not get data from this partition, HOW CAN I GET DATA FROM UBUNTU PARTITIONS UNDER LVM2?
[22:04] <CharminTheMoose> What options do I need to disable in the kernel to remove SATA/IDE harddrive support, but keep cdrom support?
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> rostyslav: just use your data backups..
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> CharminTheMoose: i'd ask in #kernel
[22:06] <CharminTheMoose> will do
[22:06] <wessel> Can anyone help me get my sound working on youtube?
[22:06] <escott> rostyslav, so you don't want the lvm2 you want to go back to a raw ext4 partition?
[22:06] <rostyslav> ActionParsnip: WHAT MEANS  - USE YOUR DATA BACK UP? THE PARTITION IS EMPTY....
[22:06] <cfhowlett> wessel: describe
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> rostyslav: kill the caps, it does nothing at all
[22:06] <wessel> My sound is work, because speaker testing I can hear: "front left"
[22:06] <MoleMan> escott: whilst  i'm out of the OS and should be able to edit stuff, grub appears to already be in boot, what needs doing to initrd?
[22:07] <sun_devil>  I have a group and (1) user, gave the group setting but the user does not have anything other then a name
[22:07] <wessel> cfhowlett, sound works, but not in flash videos, using x64 Ubuntu
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> wessel: can you give the output of:    uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'       use http://pastie.org
[22:07] <rostyslav> SO THERE NO WAY TO RECOVER DATA FROM lvm2?
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> rostyslav: if your data is important you will have made a backup...
[22:08] <escott> MoleMan, you still have to run grub-install to update the mbr to point to the new /boot partition
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> rostyslav: if you can mount the partition you can get the data, backups are much simpler
[22:08] <rostyslav> ActionParsnip:OK ...HOW LONG ARE WITH UBUNTU/LUNUX/UNIX ETC...?
[22:08] <wessel> http://pastie.org/3363485
[22:09] <escott> rostyslav, are you not able to open the lvm partition because you aren't able to get lvm working in the livecd or are you able to open it but its empty?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> rostyslav: welcome to ignore.
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> rostyslav: sudo apt-get --purge remove  flashplugin-downloader:i386 flashplugin-installer      then enable the partner repo and install adobe-installer
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> wessel:  sudo apt-get --purge remove  flashplugin-downloader:i386 flashplugin-installer      then enable the partner repo and install adobe-installer
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> wessel: you have 64bit ubuntu, but installed 32bit flash. Enabling the partner repo will give 64bit flash
[22:10] <sun_devil> I created a group called account and another called backup, does the system already have a adm group?
[22:11] <MoleMan> escott: what did you mean earlier hiding whats underneath /boot?
[22:11] <wessel> Thanks a lot, I managed to do the purge
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> sun_devil: yes, its how you give users access to sudo and gksudo
[22:11] <rostyslav> YES i MOUNTING PARTITION / NO PROBLEMS, ALMOST THE SAME WAY LIKE IN bsd, BUT  partition is empty, recovery soft show count of discovered folders and files, but when finishing it, partition still empty
[22:12] <escott> You can mount a partition on a non-empty folder and the stuff underneath will be hidden. so mkdir /media/newboot; mount /dev/sda1 /media/newboot/; cp -ar /boot /media/newboot; umount /media/newboot; mount /dev/sda1 /boot;
[22:12] <sun_devil> So you want a user to have access only to sudo and not su
[22:13] <wessel> This the correct one? # deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu natty partner
[22:13] <del_> hi everyone.  i just installed ubuntu and also have windows 7 installed on the same computer - so first i used windows to free up space and create an unused partition - then  i selected "install ubuntu alongside them" - how do i find out where ubuntu installed?
[22:13] <sun_devil> How do you give a user a passwd
[22:13] <escott> MoleMan, ^^^^ and then you can do your grub-install /dev/sda and it should set up /dev/sda1 as the /boot partition. then run update-initramfs and see if it boots
[22:13] <rostyslav> here is output of LVS - LV     VG     Attr   LSize  Origin Snap%  Move Log Copy%  Convert
[22:13] <rostyslav>   ubuntu Ubuntu -wi-ao 41.31g
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> wessel: yes, uncomment that line and run:  sudo apt-get update
[22:13] <cfhowlett> del_: are you in ubuntu liveboot now?
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> sun_devil: sudo passwd foo     change foo for the username
[22:14] <del_> cfhowlett: im in actual ubuntu right now... i just installed xchat!
[22:14] <wessel> ActionParsnip, now I need to restart my computer right?
[22:14] <MoleMan> escott: right, just bootin back into ubuntu
[22:14] <rostyslav> here is lvscan result  ACTIVE            '/dev/Ubuntu/ubuntu' [41.31 GiB] inherit
[22:15] <cfhowlett> del_: fun, right?  Ok System>Administration>Disk Utility will display your disk
[22:15] <rostyslav> it is displaying this disk, but I can do nothing and its empty, I need to get data out of this partition
[22:16] <bruenig> what is the command for the gui application that let's me set up dual monitors?
[22:16] <rostyslav> x-nvidiasettings
[22:16] <vescestvo> I have ubuntu 11.10 and can't figure out how to install curl.  Can anyone help?
[22:17] <bruenig> do I need nvidia to have dual monitors
[22:17] <rostyslav> apt-get install curl
[22:17] <del_> cfhowlett:  ok, i just opened disk utility and clicked on the disk.  i see there's the original partition - and where i created space it says "extended" and under that 144 gb ext4 and there are also 2 6.4 gb swap partitions
[22:17] <oPhelias_> sudo apt-get install curl
[22:17] <sun_devil> ok now how do you become the user and punch in password?
[22:17] <vescestvo> I do "sudo apt-get install curl" and get "Package curl is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[22:17] <cfhowlett> oPhelias_: http://colekcolek.com/2011/07/24/install-curl-on-ubuntu/
[22:17] <del_> cfhowlett: i was just used to the old installers where you pick the partitions yourself - and haven't used linux in a few years... so i was baffled when it just did it all itself...
[22:17] <vescestvo> "E: Package 'curl' has no installation candidate"
[22:18] <rostyslav> no just LVM2, that is it... nothing else
[22:18] <rostyslav> install kde package manager (frebsd, it supported in linux)
[22:18] <cfhowlett> del_: by chance does your windows partition have a name?  Mine is "Redmond"  Also as you tab through the parts, the the windows part is NTFS
[22:19] <vescestvo> oPhelias_: thanks, but I don't use php.  I just want curl.  Seems pretty basic.  I'm actually trying to install ruby via rvm, but that requires curl
[22:19] <cfhowlett> vescestvo: http://colekcolek.com/2011/07/24/install-curl-on-ubuntu/
[22:19]  * wessel bows deeply to ActionParsnip thanks, my sound works!
[22:19] <haled> how do I get HUD running in 12.04 alpha?
[22:19] <cfhowlett> ubuntu+1|haled
[22:20] <del_> cfhowlett:  Redmond... haha.  like washington?  yes.  my windows partition is simply HP.  i see the extended partitions are type ext4 for the main linux partition and linux swap for the two swap partitions...
[22:20] <vescestvo> cfhowlett: I don't use php or have it installed.  Is that still what I use?
[22:20] <rostyslav> vescestvo: any video card that supports dual monitor will do it, take a look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:20] <vescestvo> rostyslav: huh?
[22:20] <del_> cfhowlett: just kind of freaked me out that ubuntu installer did this all itself.  i should have chosen the advanced option!
[22:20] <rostyslav> man xorg.conf
[22:21] <cfhowlett> vescestvo: IDK as I don't use it.  this is the most recent article I could find re: curl + ubuntu
[22:21] <cfhowlett> del_: "progress"
[22:21] <cfhowlett> vescestvo: I would GUESS that this command installs the -curl component of php
[22:22] <vescestvo> cfhowlett: right, which I don't think would help me
[22:22] <del_> cfhowlett: exactly.  well, i took a unix class in 1997, so i'll have to re-learn quickly!
[22:23] <haled> cfhowlett, how do I get it running in the normal Ubuntu?
[22:23] <del_> cfhowlett: thank you for that first tip.  2nd question... my brother also uses this computer.  where do i modify the boot loader, so that it loads windows by default and i have to pick ubuntu?
[22:23] <cfhowlett> !grub|del_
[22:24] <cfhowlett> del_ ;grub can be configured to default in that manner.  Personally, I've never done it as I don't mind choosing
[22:24] <haled> !ubuntu+1|haled
[22:24] <rostyslav> http://curl.haxx.se/download.html
[22:24] <del_> right.  well, my brother is autistic - so i prefer not to ask him to choose.  prefer to have him turn on the computer and have it just go to windows 7 for him.
[22:25] <hubx> hey there can someone can help me to achieve softvol without the mentioned patch here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/559939
[22:25] <escott> del_, /etc/default/grub has a GRUB_DEFAULT=0 you can change that number to match the index of windows in the boot menu and then run sudo update-grub
[22:25] <Ho^Oh> Can someone suggest why I can not get RAID0 to properly boot my server? It just doesn't boot for anything.
[22:25] <del_> cfhowlett: i'm going to take a look.. thanks!
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> escott: or use grub-reboot ;)
[22:26] <escott> ActionParsnip, ahhh thats nice
[22:26] <vescestvo> okay, does anyone maybe know how to install ruby via rvm without curl?
[22:26] <mhaddog1> i'm having this error: Can't exec "@rm": No such file or directory at /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-28-server/scripts/recordmcount.pl line 511, <IN> line 497. ..... When trying to compile a driver... any ideas?
[22:26] <escott> del_, use sudo grub-reboot # and it will take care of many of those details for you
[22:27] <rostyslav> vescestvo: make config - will pul up the icon with installation options
[22:27] <del_> escott:  thanks. i'm going to try to read up a little on grub then change the options!
[22:27] <vescestvo> rostyslav: Thanks, but I think you have me confused with someone else.  I'm trying to install curl.
[22:28] <rostyslav> sorry
[22:28] <rostyslav> yes
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> escott: clever stuff huh, learned that the other day
[22:28] <rostyslav> it is addressed to you
[22:28] <rostyslav> vescestvo:it is addressed to your issues with curl
[22:29] <Seryth> I've recently completely switched over to xfce from the default ubuntu 11.10, but how can I remove all the ubuntu 11.10 unity/gnome stuff? I want only xfce rather than having all the stuff that comes with unity and gnome...
[22:29] <vescestvo> rostyslav: I am running ubuntu on  linode.  No window manager.
[22:30] <rostyslav> vescestvo: does not matter... all unux lik os are doing and behaving the same way in terminal
[22:30] <trism> !purexfce | Seryth
[22:31] <Seryth> trism: Thanks
[22:32] <vescestvo> rostyslav: oh, sorry, I missed your earlier post about downloading.  So, you're saying to just compile directly?  I guess I'll try that.  It sort of defeats the purpose of running ubuntu for me if I can't use the package manager.
[22:32] <rostyslav> yes
[22:32] <sun_devil> Iam the root how do I become a regular user with passwd
[22:32] <Vian> where I can fine step by step install and configure bind9? I'd like to make a vhost for IRC..
[22:33] <bobenhaus> anyone know how to use cloud one to upload firefox bookmarks?
[22:33] <rostyslav> vescestvo:  it take more time but works much better
[22:33] <escott> sun_devil, su username
[22:34] <haled> cfhowlett, got it http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/how-to-install-unitys-hud-feature-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[22:34] <rostyslav> vescestvo:  Just do not forget to read TODO, READMY and INSTALL files in downloaded sorce
[22:35] <rostyslav> vescestvo: fro every application there is special options, flags etc...
[22:35] <lasttime> are the cinnamon packages available to ubuntu? or do I have to add mint specific repos?
[22:35] <escott> !mint | lasttime
[22:35] <luchi> hola
[22:36] <vescestvo> rostyslav: thanks, I'm going to continue looking for a way to do it using the package manager.  The whole point of using ubuntu for me is to be able to spin boxes up quickly and install via scripts.  Building such a simple thing as curl from source feels like a nasty approach
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> lasttime: there is a ppa, butits not supported here
[22:36] <bobenhaus> !linuxmint
[22:36] <lasttime> gotcha, thanks everyone
[22:36] <bobenhaus> !linux_mint
[22:36] <bobenhaus> !dos
[22:36] <Vian> where I can fine step by step install and configure bind9? I'd like to make a vhost for IRC..
[22:36] <bobenhaus> !ubuntu
[22:36] <escott> vescestvo, why cant you install curl from apt?
[22:37] <bastidrazor> ubottu: tell bobenhaus about mint
[22:37] <Vian> !help
[22:37] <rostyslav> vescestvo: big mistake, don't get lazy, that is way it has terminal access, ubuntu is not windows
[22:37] <Vian> !patience
[22:37] <vescestvo> escot: "sudo apt-get install curl" gives me "Package curl is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[22:37] <vescestvo> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[22:37] <vescestvo> is only available from another source
[22:37] <vescestvo> E: Package 'curl' has no installation candidate"
[22:38] <escott> !info curl | vescestvo
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> !find curl
[22:38] <drakalen> !pl
[22:38] <bastidrazor> Vian: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[22:38] <drakalen> !pl
[22:39] <rostyslav> vescestvo:update your package source tree
[22:39] <vescestvo> ubottu: sorry, I'm not sure what you're saying
[22:39] <vescestvo> ubottu: ok
[22:40] <overclucker> lol
[22:40] <bobenhaus> compiz is buggy with 11.10
[22:41] <medeman> Hey there.
[22:41] <overclucker> vescestvo: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[22:41] <cfhowlett> medeman: greetings
[22:41] <drakalen> hi all
[22:41] <tull> i have a problem with ubuntu lucid and teotem or vlc audio
[22:41] <tull> totem
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> bobenhaus: never had an issue with it
[22:42] <drakalen> anyone know, why when i run "kildclient" he instantly close?
[22:42] <cfhowlett> tull: what problems
[22:42] <tull> if i see a dvd film i listen to the soundtracks but not to dialogs sound
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> drakalen: run it in a terminal, does it output anything?
[22:42] <rostyslav> vescestvo: apt-get update
[22:42] <bobenhaus> it freezes up with enabing the workspace switcher to cube
[22:42] <medeman> I just installed Ubuntu 11.10 64-Bit. Then I installed the Nvidia driver (current) from the additional drivers menu. After a restart I can't use Ubuntu anymore now. It let's me log in, but then I can
[22:42] <medeman> oops
[22:42] <overclucker> vescestvo: rvm pkg install openssl curl
[22:42] <drakalen> ActionParsnip: i'm new to ubuntu, what command i must use to run anything?
[22:43] <rostyslav> vescestvo: u the best
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> drakalen: try ust typing its name..
[22:43] <tull> cfhowlett,  the human dialogs are low
[22:43] <cfhowlett> tull: you mean voice volumes are lower than music volumes?
[22:43] <medeman> I just installed Ubuntu 11.10 64-Bit. Then I installed the Nvidia driver (current) from the additional drivers menu. After a restart I can't use Ubuntu anymore now. It let's me log in, but then I can't use the desktop (Unity?). However, I can move my mouse. Also, when I use Strg+Alt+Entf I get back to the login screen after 1-2 minutes (or that was just pure random)
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> medeman: try running:  sudo nvidia-xconfig     then reboot
[22:44] <drakalen> ActionParsnip: i have message, but on Polish :] error with memory
[22:44] <vescestvo> rostyslav: I just found out from another irc room that my sources.list is messed up..trying to figure out how to get back to default
[22:44] <drakalen> ActionParsnip: "Naruszenie ochrony pamięci" - something with memory defend :p
[22:44] <crizzy> medeman: do you see only the top menu?
[22:44] <medeman> ActionParsnip: How can I run it when I can't even start a terminal?
[22:44] <vescestvo> rostyslav: thanks
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> drakalen: does it need admin access? Try prefixing with sudo
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> medeman: press CTRL+ALT+F1
[22:45] <medeman> crizzy: I see the top bar, but it's empty and I see the "dock" on the left side. But it's like a frozen image.
[22:45] <bobenhaus> brb
[22:45] <overclucker> vescestvo: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[22:45] <spacebarbarian> my init.d scripts arent reflecting on variables I added to /etc/environment, is there a way to update it without a reboot ?
[22:45] <drakalen> ActionParsnip: sudo: kildclient: command not found :(
[22:46] <medeman> ActionParsnip: How do I reboot via the terminal?
[22:46] <goddard> can anyone check webm support in firefox me on their system?
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> drakalen: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[22:46] <drakalen> medeman: type REBOOT
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> medeman: hold shift at boot, select root, select recovery
[22:46] <drakalen> ActionParsnip: "natty"
[22:46] <sun_devil> ok thanks
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> medeman: sorry, misread, drakalen's command will reboot as you need
[22:46] <medeman> drakalen: Ah, that sounds logic...
[22:47] <chaos_zero> i am trying to put folding at home on ubuntu server but it runs live showing the output instead of going in the background so i can keep using the computer. How do i make it run in the background?
[22:47] <vescestvo> overclucker: thanks!  should I check everything in the "Ubuntu Branches" and "Ubutnu Updates" sections?
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> drakalen: seems to be a mum client.. is that right
[22:47] <brobeans> guys, i cant get the best resolution, graphics come up as unknown. best way to resolve this?
[22:47] <drakalen> ActionParsnip: yes, this is a mud client
[22:47] <medeman> ActionParsnip: Huh, Ctrl+Alt+F1 worked, I meant I couldn't start the terminal application window...
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> medeman: sudo reboot     will do it
[22:48] <overclucker> vescestvo: yup, works really well.
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> drakalen: if you tab complete the name, does it run?
[22:48] <vescestvo> overclucker: should I just check those two sections?
[22:48] <spacebarbarian> my init.d scripts arent reflecting on variables I added to /etc/environment, is there a way to update it without a reboot ?
[22:48] <overclucker> vescestvo: you need at least updates securuty and main
[22:48] <medeman> ActionParsnip: Hmm that didn't help, I'll try it with recovery mode now...
[22:49] <escott> spacebarbarian, environments are inherited from the parent process so if you just updated the file you HAVE to reboot
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> drakalen: could try tintin++   maybe
[22:49] <drakalen> ActionParsnip: what is tintin++ ?
[22:49] <rostyslav> hay linux people, can someone help me with lvm2 (Volume group), under knees of it there whole ubuntu, but when I mount it to some mount-point, nothing there, it looks empty....
[22:49] <spacebarbarian> escott: ok ill reboot
[22:49] <escott> spacebarbarian, and you might have to run update-initramfs as well
[22:49] <vescestvo> overclucker: can you explain the difference on each pair of checkboxes?  If I want main, do I click both mains?
[22:50] <escott> rostyslav, what command are you using to mount it
[22:50] <overclucker> vescestvo: hover the cursor over the question mark (-;
[22:51] <vescestvo> overclucker: I did.  It doesn't explain what the "Main Sources Repository" checkbox means though
[22:51] <drakalen> ActionParsnip: ok i try Tintin++, on polish irc peoples say, kildclient don't work and that is normal xD
[22:51] <overclucker> vescestvo: i woould say go with main updates security multivers and universe, the rest is optional
[22:51] <vescestvo> overclucker: and not the repository ones?
[22:51] <medeman> ActionParsnip: When I run the command sudo nvidia-xconfig from the recovery root thing, it says ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'
[22:52] <spacebarbarian> escott: hmm the init.d scripts still not seeing the vars
[22:52] <spacebarbarian> after reboot andd ramfs update
[22:52] <overclucker> vescestvo: you mean the source repos?
[22:52] <drakalen> Thanks for help
[22:53] <rostyslav> escott:first I have to activate this volume group (vgchange -ay ubuntu), then mount like this - mount /dev/Ubuntu/ubuntu /mnt
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> medeman: hmm, does the folder exist, it should be present
[22:53] <escott> spacebarbarian, im afraid i don't know where upstart gets its environment from
[22:53] <brobeans> where can i get help resolving graphics driver issues?
[22:53] <vescestvo> overclucker: okay, under "Ubuntu Branches", I see two checkboxes: 1) "Main - Officially supported software." and "Main Sources Repository".  I don't know what the difference is, or if I need both.  So, when you say to do main, I'm unsure whether I just check the first, or both.
[22:53] <medeman> ActionParsnip: When I enter ls, it shows nothing...weird, isn't it?
[22:54] <Stupid____> bitcoin sucks
[22:54] <medeman> ActionParsnip: Ah I got it...Yea the folder exists...
[22:54] <overclucker> vescestvo: source gives you the option of downloading source code for the package. you dont need ot to run the programs, but if you want to compileit yourself, you'll the source repo
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> medeman: did the system say it made the file?
[22:55] <escott> rostyslav, and is /dev/Ubuntu/ubuntu the correct device path? why is it not /dev/mapper/something? is /dev/Ubuntu/ubuntu a symlink to a /dev/mapper volume?
[22:55] <vescestvo> overclucker: thanks!
[22:55] <rostyslav> escott: yes it is correct, but still empty
[22:56] <medeman> ActionParsnip: Which file? When I enter sudo nvidia-xconfig it says "Using X Configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"." and "ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'."
[22:56] <escott> rostyslav, if ls -al /mnt shows an empty folder then its not there
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> medeman: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:56] <overclucker> vescestvo: how screwed up is your sources.list?
[22:57] <rostyslav> escott:yes
[22:57] <rostyslav>  escott: drwxrwxrwt  27 root root  4096 2012-02-11 17:14 tmp
[22:57] <rostyslav> sorry
[22:57] <medeman> overclucker: The file exists, but the system didn't say anything about the file...Or what do you mean? I'm a noob in linux stuff...
[22:57] <rostyslav> mnt
[22:57] <vescestvo> vescestvo: gone.  I followed a tutorial for installing mongodb and it had an "echo deb… >> /etc/apt/sources.list", only I used a single >, which replaced the entire thing
[22:57] <escott> rostyslav, that 41gb figure may just be the logical size of the lvm subvolume. it might be empty
[22:58] <rostyslav> df -h ---->>> /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-ubuntu
[22:58] <rostyslav>                        41G  177M   39G   1% /mnt
[22:58] <escott> rostyslav, well its mostly empty. it supposedly only has 177megs of data in it
[22:59] <rostyslav> escott: there was ubuntu before, but after installing on this HDD (another partition ) fedora, ubuntu gone
[23:00] <medeman> ActionParsnip: The file xorg.conf exists...
[23:00] <spacebarbarian> no one knows then how to get upstart to read variables from /etc/environment ?
[23:00] <rostyslav> escott: how did it happened I have no idea
[23:00] <brobeans> how can i find if there is driver available for my graphics?
[23:00] <escott> rostyslav, well fedora uses lvm, maybe it did something to that volume
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> medeman: cool, then reboot and test
[23:01] <overclucker> vescestvo: that's not so bad. as long as you didn't have sources for different versions of ubuntu. make sure to sudo apt-get update or you still won't be able to install curl
[23:01] <medeman> ActionParsnip: I mean the file exists, but nvidia-xconfig still says ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'.
[23:02] <vescestvo> overclucker: well, I generated one, did and update, and still no joy…trying different settings
[23:02] <rostyslav> escott: easyrecovery tool, shows over 70,000 folder and over 560,000  files etc... but when I accessing it, its empty, testdisk is recovering from this partition, but separate files, I need who dorectory structure with files in it
[23:03] <overclucker> vescestvo: still no curl?
[23:03] <vescestvo> overclucker: nope
[23:03] <overclucker> vescestvo: curl is  in the main repo
[23:04] <overclucker> vector: it doesn't showwup with apt-cache search curl ?
[23:04] <escott> rostyslav, are there any other volumes? maybe a snapshot somewhere?
[23:04] <haled> does 11.10 have webgl "out of the box"?
[23:04] <overclucker> oops, meant for vescestvo
[23:04] <newbie|2> hello
[23:04] <medeman> ActionParsnip: Hmm, I rebooted now but the desktop is still frozen...
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> medeman: ok try renaming the xorg.conf file
[23:04] <rostyslav> escott: windows7
[23:05] <newbie|2> can anyone tell me how to get a tls ssl client?
[23:05] <newbie|2> im readyin something about this ssl thing but i dont know what really is
[23:05] <vescestvo> overclucker: I got it!  I had to take out the source repository ones and it worked.
[23:05] <medeman> ActionParsnip: Okay... what's the command for that? rn?
[23:05] <newbie|2> im new to this
[23:05] <vescestvo> overclucker: thanks so much!
[23:06] <rostyslav> escott: Im very good with FreeBSD, but ubuntu like systems put me in black box
[23:06] <rostyslav> escott: especially in situation like this one
[23:06] <overclucker> vescestvo: np
[23:07] <medeman> ActionParsnip: So how do I rename it exactly?
[23:07] <overclucker> vescestvo: you should apt-get upgrade now that you've got repos in your sources.list
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> medeman: something different
[23:08] <medeman> ActionParsnip: no, i meant the command usage
[23:08] <rostyslav> escott: any idea how can I possibly recover at least home directory
[23:08] <Gentoo64> medeman: to rename use mv
[23:08] <Gentoo64> medeman: mv the file to a different name
[23:08] <vescestvo> overclucker: just did, thanks
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> medeman: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_old
[23:09] <medeman> Gentoo64: ActionParsnip: it says the file system is read only
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> medeman: sounds like you need to fsck your partition in live cd.
[23:09] <rostyslav> medeman: sudo su
[23:10] <Gentoo64> medeman: do what ActionParsnp said
[23:10] <craigbass1976> In Unity, is is possible to look at remote directories over ssh like I could in Nautilus?
[23:10] <Gentoo64> its prob mounted read only
[23:10] <Gentoo64> due to error
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: nautilus still can connect to sftp...
[23:11] <rostyslav> medeman: sudo su (then enter passowrd), then ->> mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_old
[23:12] <brobeans> is there a name for the ubuntu desktop graphics functionality? ya know like windows is windows aero
[23:12] <medeman> rostyslav: it doesnt ask for a password, even though there is a root password and a user password...
[23:12] <newbie|2> hellooo
[23:12] <newbie|2> any good ssl clients??
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> brobeans: compiz is the compositing WM
[23:12] <rostyslav> medeman: sudo su will ask
[23:12] <medeman> rostyslav: no i tried it it doesnt
[23:12] <newbie|2> ........
[23:12] <craigbass1976> ActionParsnip, Found it; just not where I was looking.  It's only Day 2 on Unity, and Day 1 technically only lasted about an hour before I went to bed...
[23:13] <overclucker> newbie|2: what kind of client?
[23:13] <rostyslav> medeman:what do you have installed?
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: np man, nice choice of sshrs
[23:13] <newbie|2> tsl/ssl
[23:13] <medeman> rostyslav: ubuntu 11.10 desktop 64-bit
[23:13] <Oer> rosseaux, not sudo su, sudi -i for root terminal
[23:13] <newbie|2> see im tryin to connect to a server
[23:14] <newbie|2> but they telling me i need to do it
[23:14] <Oer> sorry rosseaux was for rostyslav ^^
[23:14] <newbie|2> with a ssl client
[23:14] <medeman> ActionParsnip: now i booted from a 11.10 desktop 64-bit live cd...so what do i enter in the terminal? sudo fsck?
[23:14] <rostyslav> medeman:   look           root@ronald-desktop:/# exit
[23:14] <rostyslav>                                      ronald@ronald-desktop:~/Descargas$ sudo su
[23:14] <rostyslav>                                     [ sudo] password for ronald:
[23:14] <overclucker> newbie|2: that's pretty vague, that are a lot of clients that use ssl, are you talking email? ssh? ssl just a protocol
[23:15] <newbie|2> ok will send you this
[23:15] <newbie|2> look
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> medeman: read:  man fsck
[23:15] <medeman> rostyslav: yea, it doesnt do anything for me, it just goes to the next row
[23:15] <k1ng> hi
[23:15] <k1ng> can anyone give me a how to for duel wan round robin?
[23:15] <newbie|2> server: irc.oftc.net
[23:15] <newbie|2>     port: 6697
[23:15] <newbie|2>     chatroom: #tails
[23:15] <newbie|2>     use TLS/SSL to connect!
[23:16] <overclucker> newbie|2: if it's multilined, use pastebin
[23:16] <overclucker> newbie|2: ah, irc client with ssl support
[23:16] <rostyslav> escott: are you still here?
[23:16] <newbie|2> yeah
[23:16] <newbie|2> pidgin??
[23:16] <jen__> how do I get ubuntu studio on my computer by downlaod?
[23:16] <Daniel-3qt32ngew> How do I replace Linux with windows xp .iso?
[23:17] <craigbass1976> ActionParsnip, medeman I just spent quite a bit of yesterday trying to fsck an ubuntu drive before I realized that the ubuntu livecd automounts (or tries to anyway) ubuntu partitions is finds.  I haven't been in the room long enough to know what you two are talking about exactly, but if you're trying to fix an ubuntu partition from a livecd, you may need another distro's livecd.
[23:17] <overclucker> newbie|2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_clients#Protocol_support
[23:17] <newbie|2> see im new to ubuntu
[23:17] <escott> rostyslav, i dont know much about lvm i can only suggest looking at the man pages for the the vg* programs
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: or unmount the partitions...
[23:17] <rostyslav> medeman:what is your group in th system, (if you want potentially do something like root) you have to be in wheel group
[23:17] <newbie|2> thats why im asking this stupid questions
[23:17] <MoleMan> how can i copy between files in console
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> MoleMan: like copy and paste?
[23:18] <MoleMan> yeah
[23:18] <medeman> rostyslav: i dont know, i just installed ubuntu and im the only user and theres root
[23:18] <craigbass1976> ActionParsnip, nothing showed up as mounted.  I did all sorts of things that showed the partition was NOT mounted, but I couldn't fsck.  Booted to Fedora livecd, fsck no problem.  I almost cried I was so happy.
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: weird
[23:18] <jen__> anyone know how to get ubuntu studio on my computer without having to make a cd?
[23:19] <mongy> medeman, sudo touch /forcefsck is an old method, once you reboot
[23:19] <overclucker> newbie|2: that article covers potocol support, and operating system support
[23:19] <MoleMan> nvm got it
[23:19] <craigbass1976> ActionParsnip, Weird is certainly the family friendly version of what I had to say about it...
[23:19] <arand> MoleMan: You use ctrl+shift+C/V to copy in the terminal, since just C/V is used for other things
[23:19] <mongy> jen__, usb or use the netinstall iso.  can also use grub2 to iso boot
[23:20] <newbie|2> but can i used pidgin to connect to this site_?
[23:20] <medeman> mongy: and what does it do?
[23:20] <jen__> netinstall? how do I do that?
[23:20] <mongy> medeman, 'scandisks'
[23:20] <mongy> jen__, do you have a usb stick ?
[23:20] <jen__> i do
[23:21] <mongy> jen__, then just use the ubuntu iso and Startup Disk Creator to make it usb bootable
[23:21] <craigbass1976> Does a 10.04 install require me to be on the internet?
[23:21] <jen__> okay
[23:21] <overclucker> newbie|2: i dont think pidgin had taht capability
[23:22] <crypticmofo> hi all i have a question .. i want to boot up a parition but i have nothing on it .. can i dd a bootable iso to that parition and boot it ?
[23:22] <medeman> mongy: yea, so i enter sudo touch /forcefsck in the recovery terminal or what?
[23:22] <newbie|2> wich one do you think is a good one?
[23:22] <mongy> medeman, in a terminal.
[23:22] <mongy> medeman, makes a file called 'forcefsck' and when booting, if it sees it,it will run a check
[23:23] <medeman> mongy: from the live cd? i cant access a terminal from the desktop, as that is whats broken on my system
[23:23] <overclucker> newbie|2: try out xchat, irssi, or weechat. even chatzilla(ugh) has ssl aand tls support
[23:23] <mongy> medeman, mount the / partition/drive
[23:24] <mongy> medeman, sudo touch /media/your_root_partition/forcefsck
[23:24] <arand> crypticmofo: YOu will still need to configure the bootloader to start it correctly, and it also need to be an iso which is setup correctly for chainloading..
[23:24] <newbie|2> ok thank you very much i will get xchat since is a clean name
[23:24] <rostyslav> medeman:groups (username)
[23:24] <overclucker> newbie|2: good enough reasoning for me
[23:25] <rostyslav> medeman:groups (username) - will show which group you belong to...
[23:25] <medeman> rostyslav: it says medeman : medeman adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[23:25] <newbie|2> ok thanks
[23:26] <rostyslav> medeman: So, you should be able to chroot and do something as root
[23:26] <rostyslav> medeman:try su
[23:27] <medeman> rostyslav: it doesnt ask for a password
[23:28] <medeman> mongy: it says touch: can't touch /media/sda5/forcefsck: file or folder not found (translated from german)
[23:28] <mongy> medeman, is it mounted?
[23:29] <medeman> mongy: mount says that mtab says that /dev/sda5 is already mountet on /
[23:29] <aztek[tum]> anyone have issues with the dock/launcher bar not appearing when things are maximized
[23:29] <mongy> medeman, so you are booted into your os already
[23:29] <rostyslav> medeman: gedit /etc/passwd, go to the end of the file punch space button and try to safe changes, let me know what it says
[23:29] <MonkeyDust> !anyone| aztek[tum]
[23:30] <medeman> mongy: yea, in recovery mode > root
[23:30] <mongy> medeman, there is a fsck option there
[23:30] <overclucker> aztek[tum]: sometimes, but then i bash itwith the cursor and it appears
[23:30] <medeman> rostyslav: it says cant be opened
[23:30] <Nicolas_Leonida2> hi, how do I install ubuntu server on a mac mini server that doesn't come with CDROM?
[23:30] <medeman> mongy: ah ill try that...
[23:31] <goddard> Nicolas_Leonida2: usb?
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> Nicolas_Leonida2: use usb
[23:31] <aztek[tum]> Thanks MonkeyDust. That solved my problem.
[23:31] <mongy> medeman, in recovery mode menu, not the root part
[23:31] <Nicolas_Leonida2> has anyone done that before? are hardware divers compatible or am I gonna end up in hell?
[23:31] <mongy> medeman, if in root then, touch /forcefsck ; reboot
[23:32] <medeman> mongy: yea, ill start it via the menu now...
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> Nicolas_Leonida2: its the same, you just install with a different media. How does using USB rather than CD make any difference?
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> Nicolas_Leonida2: if you want a desktop OS, installl the desktop OS. The server OS doesn't come with a desktop installed
[23:33] <medeman> mongy: ahh, it says sda5 is remounted now, what should i choose from the menu now? resume clean dpkg grub netroot root
[23:33] <Nicolas_Leonida2> ActionParsnip: I got the answer to how to install, now I wannna know if drivers are compatible or not, are they?
[23:33] <mongy> medeman, once you choose fsck it will remount it.  did you run fsck?
[23:34] <MoleMan> escott: i am now getting a grub CLI when i boot :/ what do i do?
[23:34] <Ho^Oh> Can someone point me to a way to install Ubuntu Server using RAID0 via, SSH to LiveCD,       and then debootstrap install.
[23:34] <Nicolas_Leonida2> will ubuntu run smoothly on mac mini server or I'm gonna have hardware issues
[23:34] <medeman> mongy: yea i did...now the menu is there again, with some more options which i wrote you
[23:34] <mongy> medeman, what is your problem anyway?  I am late to the party
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> Nicolas_Leonida2: not sure, try the desktop OS in liveCD. It will run in RAM and you can see how it goes without changing the installed OS
[23:34] <escott> MoleMan, what was the last thing you did?
[23:35] <Nicolas_Leonida2> ActionParsnip: good idea I'll do that, how do I make a USB that can run on mac?
[23:35] <medeman> mongy: my problem is that the desktop is kinda frozen (i can only move the mouse) after i installed the nvidia driver (current)
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> Nicolas_Leonida2: use unetbootin
[23:35] <Ho^Oh> My tutorials I been using doesn't clearly inform me on what /dev/??? to work on. :S
[23:35] <mongy> medeman, no experience of nvidia, sorry.  Remove it and try again?
[23:36] <Nicolas_Leonida2> ActionParsnip: thanks
[23:36] <medeman> mongy: how do i remove it?
[23:36] <mongy> medeman, apt-get remove nvidia(tab) and see what comes up
[23:36] <Ho^Oh> I know how to set up raid, but grub installing isn't exactly what I hoped for.
[23:36] <MoleMan> edited fstab and ran update-initramfs
[23:37] <mongy> medeman, ask someone else in here, there is bound to be someone using nvidia.
[23:37] <ghostnik11> does anyone know how to get the xvid codec to work in firefox
[23:37] <ghostnik11> for streaming videos
[23:37] <k1ng> can anyone give me a how to for duel wan round robin?
[23:37] <Steevca> How do i install new themes in ubuntu 11.10?
[23:38] <escott> k1ng, http://chris.olstrom.com/howto/setup-dual-wan/
[23:39] <Oer> !raid | Ho^Oh
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> Steevca: http://shuffleos.com/3579/how-to-install-gnome-themes-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[23:39] <rostyslav> Question -  How to undelete/recover ubuntu partition after installed fedora (that crated lvm)....
[23:39] <k1ng> escott, did you test it? :)
[23:39] <medeman> How can I remove the current NVidia driver via apt-get?
[23:40] <escott> k1ng, no
[23:40] <Steevca> ActionParsnip: Thanks.
[23:40] <k1ng> escott, thank you
[23:41] <MoleMan> escott: i edited fstab and ran update-initramfs
[23:41] <rostyslav> Question -  How to undelete/recover ubuntu partition after installed fedora (that created lvm)....
[23:42] <escott> MoleMan, do you copied the grub files to the new boot partition. edited fstab and mounted it. did you reinstall grub to the mbr?
[23:42] <priXon`> hello
[23:42] <rostyslav>  priXon`: hello
[23:42] <Steevca> ActionParsnip: The problem is i don't have gnome,i have unity.
[23:43] <MoleMan> escott: run grub install?
[23:43] <randomnewb> Hello
[23:43] <MonkeyDust> Steevca  unity = gnome3 + compiz
[23:43] <escott> MoleMan, lets back up and make sure you understand the steps.
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> Steevca: unity is a shell for Gnome, you have gnome
[23:43] <mongy> medeman, sudo apt-get remove nvidia-*
[23:43] <priXon`> I wish to buy a ThinkPad T-520 and continue using ubuntu. but I've read that its graphic card is nVidia NVS 4200M and that has some issues with ubuntu. has ubuntu team solved the optimus problem?
[23:44] <Zilly> i hate the new UI
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> Zilly: don't use it
[23:44] <MonkeyDust> Zilly  then don't use it
[23:44] <medeman> mongy: thank you
[23:44] <Zilly> I don't use it
[23:44] <Steevca> Well when i try to install gnome tweak tool as mentioned here i get report that i don't have gnome shell
[23:45] <_skpl> sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[23:45] <Oer> priXon`, no, there is Bumblebee, but far from perfect https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[23:45] <escott> MoleMan, 1) Create a new boot partition and copy the kernel to it 2) update the fstab 3) mount the new boot partition onto /boot 4) update the mbr to point to the new boot partition with grub-install 5) update the initramfs to reflect the new fstab with update-initramfs 6) probably not a bad idea to update the grub.cfg with update-grub. if you skipped one of those use your livecd to chroot into the system and go through the process again
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> Zilly: pointless statement then, want to list the other apps you don't like. We are dying to know...
[23:45] <mongy> Zilly,  take your pick of any other desktop like xubuntu-desktop or lubuntu-desktop
[23:45] <overclucker> medeman: it's probably better not to combine * and apt-get remove. try apt-cache search dpkg -l | grep nvidia and ro find the package name to remove
[23:45] <Oer> priXon`, else join #Bumblebee, those guys are up2date.
[23:45] <medeman> overclucker: oh too late :(
[23:46] <Ho^Oh> Oer:I've tried all of those, but it assumes I am literally infront of the computer.
[23:46] <priXon`> yeah, I also wanted to ask if Bumblebee is a good fix for that. do you think I should look for another notebook or wait for ubuntu to solve it or for lenovo to pick anther graphic card?
[23:46] <overclucker> medeman: it probably worked, but in the future . . .