[12:03] <kkathman> then just cd the mount point
[12:03] <kkathman> or put the mount point in konqueror
[12:03] <kkathman> etc
[12:03] <visik7> cd is ok
[12:03] <visik7> partitions aren't
[12:03] <kkathman> yah
[12:03] <visik7> doI need to use /fullmountpoint/path ?
[12:03] <kkathman> you mount your partitions yes?
[12:04] <visik7> yes they are mounted
[12:04] <kkathman> in my case  /dev/hdb1 mounts to /mnt/music
[12:04] <kkathman> cd /mnt/music
[12:04] <kkathman> there is it
[12:04] <kkathman> it is
[12:04] <kkathman> hehe
[12:04] <kkathman> or whatever you call it
[12:04] <visik7> no media:/ access ?
[12:04] <dipnlik> no
[12:05] <visik7> :(
[12:05] <dipnlik> media:/ is for removable media, i think
[12:05] <visik7> but a friend of mine using kde3.5 on slackware has it
[12:05] <visik7> both removable and fixed devices
[12:05] <kkathman> visik7: ok you can make it media is you want ...if that is where you mountpoint is
[12:05] <nikol> the neccesery utils,libs,etc ???
[12:06] <dipnlik> nikol: yes
[12:06] <visik7> kkathman: they are mounted in /media
[12:06] <dipnlik> nikol: call it automagic if you want :D
[12:06] <dipnlik> visik7: media:/ is different from /media
[12:06] <visik7> dipnlik: yes I guess it :)
[12:07] <nikol> warty
[12:07] <nikol> hoary
[12:07] <nikol> hoary-backports
[12:07] <nikol> breezy
[12:07] <nikol> breezy-backports
[12:07] <nikol> dapper
[12:07] <nikol> what is the difference?
[12:08] <visik7> nikol: versions
[12:08] <visik7> warty = 5.06 breezy=5.10
[12:08] <visik7> dapper notyet released
[12:08] <nikol> for 5.04 what?
[12:08] <dipnlik> nikol: and don't send that many messages in a row, it is not polite :)
[12:08] <nikol> sorry! :)
[12:09] <Tm_T> visik7: warty was 4.10 iirc
[12:09] <visik7> Tm_T: yes sorry
[12:10] <visik7> dipnlik:
[12:10] <visik7> dipnlik: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames?highlight=%28codename%29
[12:11] <nikol> visik7: :D
[12:11] <dipnlik> visik7: think that was for nikol :)
[12:11] <visik7> dipnlik: yes I think it too :)
[12:12] <nikol> hey guys
[12:13] <nikol> what i have p4 2.4 i must download the package for the powerpc or for i386?
[12:14] <Antikite> is wpa_supplicant and ndiswrapper included on the breezy dvd iso?
[12:16] <joshisscifi> nikol: i386
[12:16] <crimsun> Antikite: wpasupplicant is not
[12:16] <charwood> Quick Question: Does the Kubuntu 6.02 'Dapper' Flight 2 LIVE CD have the capability of hard drive installation?
[12:16] <charwood> Or do I have to get the install CD?
[12:17] <Antikite> thank you crimsun! I have to have it to get my internet connection working, good to know before I install kubuntu ;)
[12:18] <aleix> i386
[12:19] <aleix> nikol, i386
[12:19] <moret> hi all
[12:20] <Orleans> why does this OS deny my root password when making changes?
[12:20] <moret> where is dpkg-reconfigure locales????
[12:20] <nikol> after the installation where i can find and run the app???
[12:20] <apol> orleans, you don't have root password i guess
[12:20] <apol> try with sudo
[12:20] <Orleans> I do have a root password set
[12:21] <Orleans> it just ignores it. Its also active
[12:21] <Orleans> went through all that
[12:21] <Orleans> I also cant install and get working a wifi sniffer
[12:21] <apol> sudo su works?
[12:22] <Orleans> My WiFi card works good, (Orinoco) but I cant seem to get Ethereal to work.
[12:22] <Orleans> Yes it does apol
[12:22] <apol> so why do you need su?
[12:22] <Orleans> I just have trouble getting the administrator button to take my password, it just defaults back to clicking the button
[12:23] <Orleans> I would prefer to run as root
[12:23] <Orleans> this forces me to run as kevin
[12:23] <nikol> after the installation where i can find and run the app???
[12:23] <Orleans> see here root@antichrist2:/home/kevin#
[12:23] <Orleans> that works fine
[12:23] <sampan> roots are for trees!  save the trees!  use sudo!
[12:24] <apol> I don't know if I'm understanding your problem
[12:24] <apol> you can try to reset it with sudo passwd
[12:24] <dipnlik> is is possible to have firefox's adblock for konqueror? with a plugin or maybe with another program?
[12:24] <Orleans> the terminal works fine
[12:24] <moret> please, help, I need reconfigure locales, but when I execute sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales happens nothing
[12:25] <Orleans> programs that ask for me to authenticate as root dont work
[12:25] <Orleans> I just did a full upgrade, maybe that will help?
[12:25] <apol> so this is an ethereal problem, not kubuntu's one...
[12:25] <sampan> orleans, there are two possibilities.  (a) (k)ubuntu is designed to use sudo (not root), so when GUI things ask for admin password, you should use your USER pass, not root's pass.  (b) if it's a fresh breezy install (i.e., you haven't updated) then you might have the "admin mode" bug and updating your system will fix it
[12:25] <poningru> is there something that utilizes zeroconf in a gui sort of way?
[12:25] <poningru> kinda like howl?
[12:25] <Orleans> I really like this distro, it jus tdoes not like Ethereal at all
[12:25] <poningru> http://www.porchdogsoft.com/products/howl/
[12:26] <Orleans> I ran the upgrade just before coming in here
[12:26] <Orleans> I read about the bug
[12:26] <sorush20> guys after I upgraded to kde 3.5 I can't automount any more files any help pleaes.
[12:26] <Orleans> I do appreciate the feedback
[12:27] <apol> fine :)
[12:27] <sampan> orleans, if you're all updated, then i suspect you should try admin modes with your USER pass, not root's  -- that's the better way and the way (k)ubuntu is designed to work
[12:28] <limit223> Hi! can anyone confirm logging in KDE Flight 2 with latest upgrades gives: Segmentation Fault error?
[12:28] <Orleans> I might try and run the updates on my laptop and see if Ethereal works
[12:29] <Orleans> I am really impressed with the distro, it works great out the box with my Orinoco card and WiFi works great.
[12:31] <limit223> Does anyone here run Dapper??
[12:31] <Hobbsee> limit223: yes
[12:31] <limit223> I try to logg from gdm
[12:31] <limit223> Startkde: Starting up...
[12:31] <limit223> /usr/bin/startkde: line280: 5510 Segmentation fault ksplash --nodcop
[12:31] <limit223> /usr/bin/startkde: line297: 5511 Segmentation fault LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit
[12:31] <limit223> Startkde: Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation.
[12:31] <NewOrleans> baah
[12:32] <Orleans> better I guess. someone took NewOrleans :(
[12:33] <limit223> Hobbsee, please tell me, do you have the latest upgrades??
[12:33] <Hobbsee> limit223: ah, i will in a min...
[12:33] <limit223> tx
[12:34] <Hobbsee> that's a weird error
[12:34] <limit223> yeah
[12:34] <Hobbsee> checked ubuntuforums.org about it?
[12:34] <limit223> from some hours ago
[12:34] <Hobbsee> anything there?
[12:34] <limit223> I wrote a thread already there
[12:35] <limit223> no output..
[12:35] <limit223> nobody reply
[12:35] <limit223> replied
[12:35] <Orleans> reply
[12:35] <limit223> I know there were working for some gtk seg fault issues before
[12:36] <Hobbsee> why are you not using kdm?
[12:36] <limit223> but I'm not sure about this one
[12:36] <Hobbsee> it may make no difference
[12:36] <Orleans> What do I need from the package list to get my DVD's playing?
[12:36] <limit223> I thing.. is kdeinit
[12:36] <limit223> and if so
[12:36] <Hobbsee> !dv
[12:36] <Hobbsee> d
[12:36] <ubotu> I don't know, Hobbsee
[12:36] <Hobbsee> !dvd
[12:36] <limit223> ...wouldn't work either
[12:36] <Hobbsee> !tell Orleans about dvd
[12:36] <Hobbsee> yeah, exactly
[12:37] <nikol> i run an .deb and i can;t install it, what prog i must select to install it?????
[12:37] <Antikite> Where would I find kubuntu packages of wpasupplicant and ndiswrapper to download separately? I'm having trouble finding them
[12:37] <limit223> all I need is a confirmation..if it is possible
[12:37] <Hobbsee> !tell nikol about deb
[12:37] <nalioth> !deb
[12:37] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:37] <Hobbsee> !info ndiswrapper
[12:38] <Antikite> Well, the homepage of ndiswrapper only has source, I'm looking for kubuntu packages preferably :)
[12:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Antikite about ndiswrapper
[12:40] <Antikite> much abliged nalioth, thanks :)
[12:46] <kairu0> i have an irq sharing problem. my sound and network card want to share the same irq. how can i fix this?
[12:46] <Orleans> I love bots
[12:47] <Orleans> Let me try and see if this dvd thingy works
[12:53] <limit223> Hobbsee: are you still upgrading?
[12:53] <Hobbsee> no, i upgraded
[12:53] <Hobbsee> havent logged out and back in though
[12:53] <limit223> ok...just make sure that you have another DM
[12:54] <Ares-x-> i have a quick question
[12:54] <limit223> or another OS installed
[12:54] <Ares-x-> i have a HP pavilion zv6000 laptop with a intigrated wifi chip.. will i be able to use this with kubuntu?
[12:54] <Orleans> Thanks!
[12:55] <Orleans> Everyone take care and have a great year from New Orleans!
[12:55] <Orleans> visit www.realnola.com for real Katrina pictures!
[12:55] <Orleans> l8r
[12:56] <poningru> wtf
[12:56] <poningru> kde uses avahi?
[12:58] <nalioth> Ares-x-: what is the chipset in the wifi?
[12:59] <joedj> hi folks, i have what's essentially a KDE questio, but #kde is not helping. attempting to get a borderless window, i set konsole's window type to dock. now konsole can't get the focus at all, so i can't change it back by accessing the Alt+F3 window menu or anything. how can i use konsole again? i have about 10 konsole windows open that i was actively working in, so it would be nice to fix this without reinstalling the OS ;-)
[12:59] <Ares-x-> how do i find out what the chipset is?
[12:59] <Antikite> lspci Ares-x-
[01:00] <Ares-x-> ??
[01:00] <poningru> Ares-x-: go into a terminal and type lspci
[01:00] <poningru> find your wireless card
[01:00] <Ares-x-> i'm in winblows currently
[01:00] <poningru> oh
[01:01] <poningru> um not sure then
[01:01] <poningru> what is the model number
[01:01] <poningru> and manufacturer
[01:01] <Ares-x-> hp pavilion zv6000
[01:01] <poningru> um that seems to be the laptop
[01:01] <poningru> oh its integrated?
[01:01] <Ares-x-> yeah
[01:01] <Ares-x-> yep
[01:01] <poningru> oh then go into device manager
[01:01] <Mace> how come kubuntu instlalation doesnt let me choose which PARTITION to install, only HARD DRIVE?
[01:01] <sampan> joedj  not sure if i even understand the problem, but, can you try alt-tab to put focus back into those windows?
[01:02] <Antikite> you might get a tip if you try control-panel->system->hardware->device manager and then find the wificard and see what driver it uses
[01:02] <nalioth> Ares-x-: what OS are you using to talk to us?
[01:02] <poningru> nalioth: windows
[01:02] <Ares-x-> windows :(
[01:02] <joedj> sampan: doesn't work. the konsole windows no longer appear on alt+tab
[01:02] <Ares-x-> downloading kubuntu as we speak
[01:02] <douglas> is there a eclipse cdt package?
[01:02] <nalioth> Ares-x-: go grab k/ubuntu LiveCD and boot it up
[01:02] <sampan> joedj, ouch :/  /me makes mental note not to set konsole windows to "dock" ;/
[01:02] <joedj> sampan: good plan :)
[01:02] <poningru> Ares-x-: hold on let me do some research
[01:04] <joedj> sampan: i started a new konsole to try it out because i didn't want to break the ones i was using, but it modified all of them :)
[01:04] <Ares-x-> broadcom 802.11b/g wlan
[01:04] <poningru> Ares-x-: its a broadcom
[01:04] <Ares-x-> is my chip
[01:04] <poningru> oh hehe
[01:04] <Ares-x-> hehe
[01:04] <poningru> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=603658
[01:04] <sampan> joedj  i wonder if there's a config file -- you might be able to kill the processes and then alter the configs?
[01:05] <joedj> sampan: i'm sure there is, it's gotta store that setting somewhere, i'm just hoping someone can tell me rather than looking for a needle in a haystack :)
[01:05] <Ares-x-> poningru thanks much
[01:06] <sampan> hehehe -- wish i knew ... did you make the setting IN konsole?  i can't even find that option
[01:06] <joedj> sampan: it's in the Advanced -> Special Window Settings dialog of the alt+f3 window menu
[01:06] <joedj> sampan: i didn't even want to do it, i was trying to help someone on #kde with their question ;-)
[01:07] <sampan> ooooooooh that's even worse -- helping someone CAN bite you in the ass ;x
[01:07] <poningru> Ares-x-: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=4b561c45c83c395c3f6176c6a4a7c7b2&t=53578&highlight=zv6000
[01:07] <poningru> look into that
[01:08] <poningru> Ares-x-: are you looking for a 64bit or a 32bit system?
[01:08] <nalioth> Ares-x-: ndiswrapper will certainly drive it (unless the proc is amd64 or ppc) and there is a broadcom linux driver being worked on
[01:08] <Ares-x-> i'm ganna put a 32 bit sys on
[01:08] <Ares-x-> it's a sempron
[01:08] <Ares-x-> just a toy
[01:08] <poningru> nalioth: there is 64bit driver for broadcom chipsets
[01:09] <nalioth> poningru: i dont keep up on how fast they have advanced with that drivr
[01:09] <Ares-x-> the way i read that thread there is a 32bit version correct?
[01:10] <poningru> hehe :)
[01:10] <poningru> Ares-x-: yes ofcourse
[01:11] <Ares-x-> ok
[01:12] <Ares-x-> that was the only real reservations i had about putting n?x on this
[01:12] <Ares-x-> i need to have my wifi working
[01:13] <sampan> joedj  maybe ~/.kde/share/config/konsolerc  ?  dunno if that would have the special-window settings or not
[01:13] <nalioth> Ares-x-: if you're using a 32bit arch, your wifi will work via one method or another
[01:13] <Ares-x-> yeah
[01:14] <Ares-x-> thanks
[01:14] <Ares-x-> you guys have been a huge help
[01:14] <joedj> sampan: nope (but thanks ;-)
[01:15] <sampan> lol i'm curious now -- 'cause that's one of those little pickles i could see myself getting into too -- i tend to hit buttons for settings on a "let's see what this little thingamajig does!"
[01:17] <kairu0> i have an irq sharing problem. my sound and network card want to share the same irq. how can i fix this?
[01:24] <Ares-x-> is kunbuntu a hard install?
[01:25] <nalioth> not at all
[01:25] <nat> hi, i've a problem : can some one tell me what is the pb and what can I do ?
[01:25] <nat> an 10 01:24:06 localhost kernel: [4430327.764000]   /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: unable to read partition table
[01:25] <nat> Jan 10 01:24:08 localhost kernel: [4430329.767000]  sda : READ CAPACITY failed.
[01:25] <nat> Jan 10 01:24:08 localhost kernel: [4430329.767000]  sda : status=0, message=00, host=7, driver=00
[01:25] <nat> Jan 10 01:24:08 localhost kernel: [4430329.767000]  sda : sense not available.
[01:25] <nalioth> nat: read the /topic please and use a pastebin to paste
[01:26] <nat> sorry nalioth, it was only 4 lines I thinking that it wasn't too much
[01:26] <nalioth> nat: one line is ok, more than that is considered rude
[01:26] <nat> ok
[01:26] <nat> sorry
[01:29] <nat> and for my pb, so know what can i do ?
[01:30] <nalioth> nat: are you in linux now?
[01:30] <Zorlon> Anyone know which video card VMWare 5.5 emulates? I have googled and searched VMWare and missed it consistently
[01:30] <nat> yes
[01:30] <joedj> sampam: well, went for a coffee and nobody on #kde helped while i was gone, time to start looking through that haystack that is ~/.kde/ =P
[01:30] <nalioth> nat: then use apt-get or synaptic to install 'smartmontools'
[01:31] <nat> ok nalioth
[01:32] <joedj> sampan: woohoo, looks like it's .kde/share/config/kwinrulesrc
[01:33] <nat> nalioth: i installed it what should i do know ?
[01:33] <sampan> joedj, yay!  glad you found it ... and now i know where those window-specific settings are too :)
[01:33] <nalioth> nat: in a terminal type 'smartctl --help' and use it to your needs
[01:34] <nat> ok thks
[01:34] <joedj> sampan: looks like i gotta restart kwin, i'll return and let you know if it worked =P
[01:34] <sampan> k -- good luck!
[01:40] <joedj> sampan: success! wasn't quite as simple as restarting, KDE put the settings back when i logged out, but it did work (once i disabled it again without X running)
[01:41] <sampan> joedj, nice to know!  glad you got it figured out :)
[01:41] <randletr> Hi all
[01:42] <randletr> <---- newbie with a question
[01:42] <nalioth> !ask
[01:42] <nalioth> i've found another fat factoid
[01:43] <nalioth> randletr: don't ask to ask
[01:43] <randletr> I just install Kubuntu 5.10 and I'm trying to get ssh installed.  I installed open-ssh client and server, and when I cd to ~/.ssh the directory isn't there
[01:44] <randletr> I tried to create it manually and run ssh keygen, but it's saying the commands aren't found
[01:45] <seth> you are sure that openssh-client is installed? That's the package that contains ssh-keygen
[01:46] <randletr> according to adept it is...
[01:46] <randletr> is there another way to check
[01:46] <randletr> ?
[01:47] <randletr> openssh-client, openssh-server, and shh
[01:47] <randletr> errr. ssh
[01:49] <nalioth> randletr: installing the 'ssh' pkg will install both client and server. until you run ssh once, you won't have an .ssh dir
[01:52] <randletr> Ahhhhh, gotcha
[01:52] <randletr> That worked... Thanks you very much
[01:52] <nalioth> np, share the love
[02:09] <nat> nalioth: i'm looking the command smartctrl but i don't know what i should do resolve my problem... my actual error is
[02:09] <nat> hdc : lost interupt
[02:09] <nat> interrupt
[02:10] <nalioth> nat: the smartctl checks your S.M.A.R.T status on your drive
[02:11] <nat> i'm trying to launch gparted, but it's always in a "scanning all devices" status
[02:12] <nat> i dont know what can i do
[02:13] <fatejudger> does anyone here get a lot of buffer underrun errors when using k3b?
[02:13] <nat> and has i've this error in my kernel log, i thing it can be from this error
[02:15] <nalioth> nat: fire up a LiveCD
[02:16] <p337> So, i got my sound and wireless drivers installed yesterday, they were working great.... i turn on my computer today............ neither works... why would that happen?
[02:23] <nat> nalioth: i've another pb, k3b don't work too... i think both problems are linked ... but i don't know what is it and what can i do
[02:24] <nalioth> nat: sounds like your drive needs an fsck run on it
[02:27] <drcurl> Hi
[02:35] <nat> nalioth: what did u tell me ?
[02:35] <nat> because i reboot to test something
[02:35] <nat> but it dosen't work better
[02:35] <nalioth> nat: i told you to get a LiveCD
[02:35] <nat> i don't have any LiveCD
[02:36] <nalioth> nat: perhaps getting one would be helpful
[02:36] <nat> ok but when i lauch k3b it the same pb
[02:36] <nat> i ve a message : localhost kernel: [4295078.557000]  hdc: lost interrupt in my kernel log
[02:36] <nat> and the apps stay on the windows "scanning device"
[02:36] <nalioth> nat: i suspect you'll need to boot a liveCD and run fsck on your hard drive
[02:37] <nat> ha ... ok, can i do it with out a livecd ?
[02:37] <drcurl> Hi, I'm use to kde under slack. It is very fast, use only around 80 megs of ram once loaded. Start fast also. Is it the same under kubuntu?
[02:39] <nat> nalioth: is it possible to do it from the kubuntu installation cd ?
[02:39] <nalioth> nat: it is, but you'll not have any guis
[02:40] <nat> but hdc, it's my cdrom
[02:41] <nalioth> nat: i don't understand
[02:41] <nat> in my log i ve
[02:41] <nat> localhost kernel: [4295078.557000]  hdc: lost interrupt in my kernel log
[02:42] <nat> hdc is my cdrom device
[02:42] <nat> are u sure that it's my hardrive which need a fsck
[02:43] <drcurl> someone can give me some spec about kubuntu speed?
[02:43] <nalioth> nat: you are right
[02:44] <nalioth> nat: is it plugged in properly?
[02:44] <nat> for the moment there is no disc in my cdrom
[03:00] <Lord_Athur> hi
[03:00] <Hobbsee> hi
[03:01] <AcXide> hi
[03:02] <Lord_Athur> :D
[03:16] <computinchuck> how do i prevent modules from loading
[03:17] <computinchuck> on startup
[03:18] <bimberi> computinchuck: try adding them to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[03:19] <computinchuck> bimberi, is that all?  i noticed when i bootup that it loads up hotplug pretty close to the end of the process
[03:19] <bimberi> computinchuck: it might work (i did say 'try' :) )
[03:20] <computinchuck> hehe, alright, i'll see how it works
[03:24] <poimen> someone kwons if I install flight I can use the sources of breezy?
[03:26] <Hobbsee> no, that probably wouldnt work too well
[03:28] <poimen> :(
[03:28] <poimen> someone making packages for it?
[03:29] <poimen> ??
[03:29] <poimen> or can I use the source to make packagaes for it?
[03:30] <Hobbsee> what did you want to install?
[03:32] <poimen> w32codecs/libdvdcss
[03:33] <poimen> and all that things to play media ;)
[03:33] <Hobbsee> *thinks*
[03:33] <Hobbsee> i'd imagine that a lot of the things in repos in breezy are there in dapper, or updated versions.  as for the w32codecs that arent in repos, probably try the breezy binaries, or compile them
[03:34] <poimen> ok
[03:44] <bbeck> Is there a place to find out the intended versions of packages for the next version of Kubuntu?
[03:45] <Hobbsee> packages.ubuntu.com
[03:45] <bbeck> thank you.
[03:54] <charwood> I heard a rumor that there was some kind of ATI graphics driver package for kubuntu but I can't seem to find it.
[03:54] <Hobbsee> !ati
[03:54] <ubotu> I guess ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[03:54] <charwood> Actually, it turns out tha tI just spelled fglrx wrong.
[03:54] <charwood> Sorry to disturb you.
[03:56] <Hobbsee> no problems
[03:58] <nalioth> charwood: some of us are already disturbed :/
[04:01] <gangan963> Can somebody help me to "activate" my second HDD ... I try it with wiki but it doesnt work
[04:03] <bbeck> What do you mean activate you second hard drive?
[04:03] <gangan963> I see that it is there "dev/hdc2" but  I cant do anything
[04:03] <bbeck> You can't do a sudo mount -t <filesytem type> /dev/hdc2 ?
[04:04] <gangan963> in the "disk &filesystem" (System settings) it is enabled
[04:06] <gangan963> bbeck: I got somethink like a man !
[04:07] <gangan963> manual
[04:09] <gangan963> with "sudo cfdisk /dev/hdc2" I can see it
[04:09] <gangan963> with "sudo cfdisk /dev/hdc" I can see it
[04:10] <bbeck> gangan963: On that "Disk & Filesystems" screen did /dev/hdc2 have a mount point listed?
[04:10] <gangan963> no
[04:11] <bbeck> O.k. that just means that we need to mount it somewhere on your filesystem.
[04:12] <gangan963> ok, I read that it is usual to do it in /media  or /mnt   .... right?   (just asking.. I will do what you are telling)
[04:12] <bbeck> Yeah, /mnt is where I generally mount my second hard drive.
[04:13] <gangan963> ok.. how should I do that?
[04:14] <bbeck> At the command line type sudo mount -t <filesystem type> /dev/hdc2 /mnt/  (For example on my system I type the following... sudo mount -t reiserfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/)
[04:15] <gangan963> I am now root on the disk&filesystem ... yesterday I enabled " "enable at start up"  ... and after this I have to install KUBUNTU new!!!
[04:16] <bbeck> You should be doing this command from Konsole, not the "Disk & Filesystems" screen.
[04:17] <gangan963> gg@linux:~$ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdc2 /mnt/
[04:17] <gangan963> gg@linux:~$
[04:17] <gangan963> did it  - nothing happens
[04:18] <bbeck> When you say nothing happens do you mean that you get no response from the command line, or do you mean that when you do a ls /mnt/ you see nothing there?
[04:20] <gangan963> no response from the command line
[04:20] <bbeck> Do a ls /mnt/ , do you see the files on that partition?
[04:20] <gangan963> now I tipped in "ls/mnt/" ....again no response
[04:21] <bbeck> you put a space between ls and /mnt/ right?
[04:23] <gangan963> yes i tried both -  no response from the command line
[04:23] <gangan963> gg@linux:~$ ls /mnt/
[04:23] <gangan963> gg@linux:~$ ls /mnt/
[04:23] <gangan963> gg@linux:~$
[04:24] <bbeck> Can you see if we successfully mounted the partition by typing mount at the command line and looking for the partition?
[04:26] <gangan963> /dev/hdc2 on /media/hdd401 type vfat (rw)
[04:26] <gangan963> /dev/hdc2 on /mnt type vfat (rw)
[04:26] <gangan963> like you can see it is there two times (is this a problem???) ...because I try it before alone with WIKI
[04:27] <bbeck> Is there anything on the partition?  I mean when we did the ls, where we expecting to see files there?  Because it looks like it's mounted alright.
[04:29] <gangan963> it is an old windows partition... how should I look with ls?
[04:30] <bbeck> It should list the files that are on the partition, I was just wondering if we were looking at a partition with nothing on it, and therefore ls showed nothing.  (Also are you certain this isn't an NTFS parition?)
[04:34] <gangan963> sorry... no I am not! ....I was shure,but I dont know why :( ....Now: I thing it has to be an ntfw because winXP was probably on this partition
[04:34] <gangan963> so we can format it! .... no important data
[04:35] <gangan963> if it is neccessery
[04:35] <bbeck> You can mount a ntfs partition if you like.  I don't know if you can write to it though.
[04:37] <gangan963> no.. because I am shure that this was an XP system partition... I dont need it anymore!
[04:37] <Knowerrors> Hey all, just installed opera deb from plf repos, all plugins working except acrobat, can anybody help?  I used the advice on this wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser?highlight=%28opera%29 about it and still didn't work
[04:40] <bbeck> gangan963: do you need help from this point, or are you good to go?
[04:40] <gangan963> I need help !!!  :(  ...thanx
[04:41] <gangan963> can you explain me my problem? ... do I have to format into a other system and than do the same???
[04:42] <bbeck> I would suggest using a more linux friendly filesystem for your second drive.
[04:42] <alexcamilo> Hello, How would you go about installing kubuntu (or any linuix distro) onto a PC with no floppy drive, no CD rom drive, no networking and 1 2.5 inch laptop IDE drive.
[04:43] <thelleon> ola galera
[04:43] <thelleon> to precisando de ajuda
[04:43] <thelleon> algum fala portugus aqui????
[04:44] <gangan963> bbeck: ok... I want to use it in common with my win-comp (want to share data win - linux) ...should I now format this partition and which kind of (vfat ext2/3.. or??)
[04:47] <bbeck> O.k. at this point if anyone here knows better please speak up because I haven't used Windows in years.  I *think* Windows can only see partitions that use the FAT or NTFS filesystems, so if you want to have a common partition that both Windows and Linux can see you are going to have to choose FAT.
[04:48] <sampan> i -think- i've seen how-tos that mention there are (freeware?) programs that will let winxp read/write to ext2 or ext3, but he'd have to make sure before going that route
[04:49] <gangan963> ok.. but if I make it on FAT.. can linux use this kind without problems? ... windows can of course
[04:50] <sampan> yes, i have a fat32 partition (external usb hd) that my kubuntu uses just fine
[04:50] <sampan> (haven't figured out how, or even if, i need to defrag it, in linux -- but it reads/writes just fine)
[04:51] <gangan963> ok.. so I can format this partition with linux and it will be ok
[04:51] <sampan> yes
[04:51] <sampan> qtparted works just fine
[04:51] <sampan> but you might have to install it
[04:51] <gangan963> is this an kde visible program or command line?
[04:52] <sampan> it's a kde GUI partitioning app
[04:52] <sampan> very nice
[04:53] <gangan963> I look at the homepage screenshot!.. looks very good ... like partitionmagic
[04:53] <gangan963> i will try it ...or should I learn it the old way to do this???
[04:54] <sampan> :) yeah it's pretty easy to figure out and works well.  just remember to unmount the drive you're formatting/partitioning before you format/partition
[04:55] <gangan963> ooouuu how should I do this?
[04:57] <bbeck> gangan963: sudo umount /mnt/ and sudo umount /media/hdd401
[05:01] <gangan963> bbeck: thank you for you help... I will try to format and than I will look for next....
[05:02] <gangan963> sampan:  I insalled qtpart and I can see it in my K-menue.... but it dont want to start! .... must I do somethink like apt-get update/upgrate????
[05:04] <charwood> I'm trying to configure Kaffeine under Dapper Flight 2.  It says it can't find /dev/dvd and it's right.  I don't have a /dev/dvd or a /dev/hdc.
[05:04] <charwood> How do I get these to appear?
[05:04] <gangan963> I insalled qtpart and I can see it in my K-menue.... but it dont want to start! .... must I do somethink like apt-get update/upgrate????
[05:04] <charwood> gangan963: How did you install it/
[05:05] <charwood> gangan963: If you press <alt>-<F2> and type qtparted, it will open.
[05:06] <gangan963> i install it with the packeg manager - adept
[05:06] <charwood> Ok.  then you don't need to apt-get/update/upgrade anything.  It's there somewhere.
[05:07] <charwood> I just installed it with apt and it put it in KMenu->System->Qtparted
[05:07] <charwood> If it isn't there, I recommend opening a console and typing "sudo qtparted".
[05:07] <leafw> what is out there for video visualization in kubuntu-ppc ?
[05:07] <leafw> no xine, no kaffeine, no media player ?!
[05:08] <charwood> leafw: Sadness.  There is probably vlc/videolan.
[05:08] <robotgeek> leafw: why no kaffeine?
[05:08] <charwood> leafw: The interface isn't very flash but it gets the job done.  I'm pretty sure there is a ppc port.
[05:08] <leafw> charwood: sounds good, thank you
[05:09] <leafw> let's see what adept lists
[05:10] <gangan963> charwood: I find it in k-menue - system! but it doesn't open --- but it works with sudo qtparted!  thanx
[05:10] <charwood> gangan963: No problem.
[05:10] <_thiago> does anyone knows good a repository list? For python modules...
[05:11] <charwood> Any ideas why I don't have a /dev/dvd or /dev/hdc or even a /dev/cdrom?
[05:12] <charwood> (Yes, the device does exist and works fine in for instance, a stock debian kernel)
[05:12] <gangan963> can I give a name for the HDD while format with qtparted  ...it is asking me... but I dont now if this use for anythink under linux
[05:13] <charwood> gangan963: There is a field for the name.  I
[05:13] <charwood> I've never seen it used anywhere.
[05:14] <charwood> gangan963: hdparm might have some way of telling you but I can't verify this.
[05:14] <gangan963> ok...i will not use it too
[05:14] <gangan963> bbeck: are you still there?
[05:16] <bbeck> gangan963: yup, how's it going?
[05:17] <gangan963> I installed qtparted and it is showing that the HDD is fat16
[05:17] <gangan963> we thought it was ntfs because it doesnt work ..but it wasnt
[05:19] <bbeck> huh, that's strange.  We had it successfully mounted, it should have files on it, but ls showed nothing.
[05:19] <leafw> charwood: actually, kaffeine & xine work like a charm in kubuntu-ppc
[05:19] <leafw> charwood: I had assumed that, since they were not installed by default, they were not there.
[05:19] <leafw> like kde 3.5, which is not out yet.
[05:20] <gangan963> bbeck: doesnt matter.. I format it and I will try it anothertime again
[05:21] <bbeck> I was just googling to see if perhaps the fact that it was mounted twice would cause us not to see the contents of the partition.
[05:22] <gangan963> sampan: I now format a 40GB HDD from fat16 to fat32 ... it takes only a few seconds!!! is this normal???
[05:22] <leafw> what would anyone recommend, mpegdemux or mpeg2dec? Or are they different?
[05:23] <sampan> gangan963  yep -- it doesn't take long at all
[05:23] <gangan963> sampan: hmmm  thats nice... win takes at least 10 minutes
[05:24] <sampan> gangan963  indeed!  :D   efficiency is a good thing
[05:25] <gangan963> :)
[05:25] <charwood> gangan963: There are two kinds of formatting, one the whole drive is rewritten with 0s, the other just the allocation table.  The latter is very fast.  (-8
[05:26] <leafw> and what does kaffeine/xine need to open mpeg and mov files ?
[05:26] <sampan> and i'm not sure the double mount would be a problem.  i have a usb-connected HD that shows up (is mounted) twice: as /media/usbdisk and /media/sda1  -- i can write/read to either location and it's there on both
[05:26] <gangan963> bbeck:  can you tell me what I have now to do after I have format at fat32 ??? just about... I will try it then later
[05:27] <charwood> leafw: I kind of thought it was weird that those didn't exist...  Glad you got it working.
[05:27] <leafw> yeah, now I need video tho
[05:27] <gangan963> charwood: if this is enough for mnt the hdd to the system... I am sattisfied :)
[05:28] <charwood> leafw: Codecs can be found here: http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html
[05:28] <leafw> xine claims "no demux can be found", but I just apt-get mpegdemux
[05:28] <leafw> and where does one copies them: /usr/share ... ?
[05:28] <charwood> leafw: Not sure if they work with xine.  But I think /usr/local/lib/codecs?  Not sure.
[05:29] <leafw> let's check
[05:29] <leafw> it's a start. thanks
[05:29] <charwood> leafw: Nevermind.  That directory doesn't exist on my computer.
[05:29] <dereks_> hey, i noticed that avahi isn't working with my kpf, anyway to fix that?
[05:29] <charwood> leafw: But that is what mplayer recommends as typical.
[05:29] <leafw> charwood: I'm for xine to run, not mplayer
[05:29] <leafw> but I suspect the codecs are shared ?
[05:30] <leafw> no dir "*codecs*" exists in my system
[05:31] <charwood> leafw: Mine either.  Seems we're in the same boat.  kaffeine was going to be my next project after I got my drive recognized...
[05:31] <leafw> xD
[05:31] <leafw> I'm on it
[05:32] <robotgeek> leafw: do you mean w32codecs
[05:32] <leafw> robotgeek: kubuntu-ppc here
[05:32] <leafw> don't know how would those work
[05:32] <robotgeek> leafw: ah then, no codecs
[05:33] <robotgeek> leafw: you cant play wmv10 files, i guess
[05:33] <leafw> I'm trying to see this: http://www.10mph.com/trailer/index.html
[05:33] <leafw> a .mov
[05:34] <robotgeek> leafw: install vlc, see if it picks it up
[05:34] <leafw> what is vlc ?
[05:35] <leafw> I see
[05:35] <leafw> adept info
[05:35] <robotgeek> leafw: it's another video player, with most common codecs included
[05:35] <robotgeek> leafw: :) , i am on ppc too
[05:35] <leafw> great
[05:35] <Kr0ntab> heya folks....
[05:35] <robotgeek> hey Kr0ntab
[05:36] <Kr0ntab> :-)
[05:36] <leafw> robotgeek: how do you plug vlc to konqueror
[05:36] <leafw> can it run embedded ?
[05:36] <robotgeek> leafw: nope
[05:36] <leafw> hum ,so file association
[05:36] <Kr0ntab> very irritating problem here.   I'm having an issue with GnuCash, and was hoping KDE might be able to help out the situation.  GnuCash does not remember window positioning or size (i.e. maximization, etc)... and I'm trying to figure out how to get KDE's special window settings/behaviour to maximize the GnuCash window upon opening it.   Just kind of curious if anyone's been able to work this out before.
[05:37] <robotgeek> Kr0ntab: yes, it should be possible to do that
[05:37] <Kr0ntab> yeah I thought so too...  but apparently... GnuCash does not like to cooperate.  hehe
[05:37] <leafw> WORKS
[05:37] <leafw> great robotgeek
[05:37] <robotgeek> leafw: great!
[05:38] <leafw> the only thing I need now, is CMYL in gimp, but that's a dream I'll have to work on
[05:38] <leafw> sorry, CMYK
[05:38] <robotgeek> Kr0ntab: not on my kde machine right now, so can't help you
[05:39] <gangan963> THANK you for all help... see you ... this is the way Kubuntu is making happy ;)
[05:39] <cobelloy> hi there - can someone help me with broadband connection?
[05:40] <cobelloy> got the installation guy here now
[05:40] <cobelloy> but my eth0 is not setup yet
[05:40] <robotgeek> cobelloy: do you know if your network card is working?
[05:40] <Kr0ntab> no prob...   I think it might be related to the way GNU Cash is started.  The process that runs it is "/usr/bin/guile-1.6 -e main -s /usr/lib/gnucash/overrides/gnucash"    so Im not sure if the "window class" is matching correctly or what.
[05:40] <cobelloy> it works with windows - i think
[05:41] <cobelloy> all in one mobo - fairly new, but never actually used it
[05:41] <cobelloy> but windows sees it fine
[05:41] <cobelloy> would rather use linux tho
[05:41] <cobelloy> it was not setup during ubuntu installation
[05:42] <robotgeek> cobelloy: hm, can you paste the output of 'sudo lshw -class NETWORK" to the pastebin
[05:42] <cobelloy> righto - hang on,
[05:42] <cobelloy> Harware Lister (lshw) - A.01.03
[05:42] <cobelloy> usage: lshw [-options ...]
[05:42] <cobelloy>         -version      print program version
[05:42] <cobelloy>         -html         output hardware tree as HTML
[05:42] <cobelloy>         -xml          output hardware tree as XML
[05:42] <cobelloy>         -short        output hardware paths
[05:43] <cobelloy> oh - hang on, thats not right !!
[05:43] <robotgeek> cobelloy: to the pastebin
[05:43] <robotgeek> !pastebin
[05:43] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:43] <robotgeek> cobelloy: yes, that's not right
[05:43] <cobelloy> right - hang on
[05:45] <cobelloy> ok - I just keep getting the help instructions ?
[05:46] <cobelloy> brb
[05:46] <robotgeek> just paste sudo lshw then
[05:47] <leafw> robotgeek: what about divx on kubuntu-ppc
[05:47] <robotgeek> leafw: vlc shud play, it, maybe not divx6 or the newer one
[05:48] <leafw> ok, good :)
[05:50] <cobelloy> ok im back - doing lshw now
[05:51] <nalioth> leafw: ppc development for things is lacking in some areas
[05:51] <cobelloy> right - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6871
[05:51] <cobelloy> thats the output
[05:52] <cobelloy> I have divx movies that play on my daughters imac - ubuntu ppc
[05:52] <cobelloy> using vlc player
[05:52] <leafw> nalioth: no wonder, ppc is going to hell soon, since most linxu-ppc are on laptops or high-end G5 (I believE)
[05:52] <leafw> cobelloy: that's good news
[05:52] <leafw> there's mplayer-powerpc as well.
[05:53] <nalioth> leafw: ppc isnt gone yet.
[05:53] <leafw> nalioth: I know, I run YDL on my big stations.
[05:53] <leafw> nalioth: and IBM is both supporting linux and developing Power chips.
[05:53] <robotgeek> leafw: i gave up after dependency hell
[05:54] <leafw> YDL ?
[05:54] <nalioth> and apple has not said they are dropping ppc
[05:54] <nalioth> leafw: yellow dog linux
[05:54] <leafw> for the laptop it's not worth it.
[05:54] <nalioth> yellow dog linux = fedora core = redhat = "not on your life"
[05:54] <charwood> Sorry to beat everyone over the head with this, but I can't find any way to make /dev/dvd exist.
[05:54] <leafw> nalioth: my point was, I've seen most linux-ppc on apple laptops, and these are going to intel.
[05:55] <nalioth> leafw: true.
[05:55] <leafw> nalioth: "not on your life" ?
[05:55] <nalioth> leafw: i dont have time for RPM-Hell
[05:55] <robotgeek> cobelloy: lsmod output also, please
[05:55] <leafw> nalioth: I run very limited amount of packages. YDL is not for desktop
[05:55] <charwood> nalioth: I suppose since we're on the hallowed grounds of #kubuntu, I can say 'Preach it brother!' / or sister?
[05:56] <nalioth> charwood: i've used many distros. i find i have much to compare with
[05:56] <leafw> .by the way: a beatiful desktop: http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/122706main_hurricane_emily1.jpg
[05:56] <leafw> with the moon hovering over the eye.
[05:56] <charwood> leafw: Wow.  That's something.
[05:57] <leafw> charwood: read here http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/multimedia/hurricane_emily1.html
[05:59] <cobelloy> right - just consulting tech guy, hng on
[06:02] <leafw> time to go, cy'll
[06:04] <robotgeek> cobelloy: i've got to go now, but feel free to ask in #ubuntu as well. good luck
[06:11] <wsjunior> sup guys, i was thinking about to test kubuntu here. does anybody knows a step-by-step guide to the instalation of the most recent kubuntu? (i mean that one already with kde 3.5 packages)
[06:13] <nalioth> wsjunior: that version is not ready for production machines
[06:14] <computinchuck> i'm using the fglrx kernel driver package and having quite a bit of trouble, i can't get direct rendering enabled and it keeps loading agpgart despite specifying it to use the interal agp driver
[06:14] <wsjunior> nalioth: i'm planning to just test it at my desktop machine..
[06:15] <manveru> wsjunior: if you're wanting the new version you might get some trouble, it's not quite finished yet (tho it's more stable than some think)
[06:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell wsjunior about dapper
[06:15] <cobelloy> OK, im back - looks like I missed robotgeek tho - if anyone else can help tho?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6872
[06:16] <wsjunior> manveru: are the kde 3.5 packages reasonable stable?
[06:16] <wsjunior> nalioth: thanks
[06:16] <nalioth> cobelloy: what do you need help with?
[06:16] <nalioth> wsjunior: define "reasonable"
[06:17] <manveru> wsjunior: 3.5 is 'reasonable' stable, tho not in combination with dapper, i guess
[06:17] <wsjunior> manveru: so the best thing would be to get the latest stable kubuntu and just updrage kde packages?!
[06:18] <manveru> yeah
[06:18] <manveru> !kde3.5
[06:18] <ubotu> hmm... kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[06:18] <wsjunior> manveru: another question.. i have an ubuntu 5.10 cd here.. is there a way to install it and transform it in kubuntu?
[06:19] <manveru> hmm, yeah
[06:19] <wsjunior> manveru: how?
[06:19] <manveru> just run 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[06:19] <manveru> will download some stuff and install kde/kdm/apps and stuff
[06:19] <wsjunior> manveru: simple like that?
[06:19] <manveru> i hope so
[06:19] <nalioth> wsjunior: ubuntu is simple
[06:20] <cobelloy> nalioth - I need to configure my ethernet so I can hook the comp up to broadband
[06:20] <wsjunior> i really love slackware, but i wanna stop doing everything by hands
[06:21] <wsjunior> i'll install kubuntu right now so. thanks everyone for the help. c ya later
[06:21] <cobelloy> I have the installation guy here putting the sattelite and router thing in right now
[06:22] <cobelloy> nalioth - r u still there?
[06:22] <stevenj> Could someone tell me the easiest way to install Tahoma font
[06:22] <stevenj> use cab or install font
[06:22] <cobelloy> steven you should have a fonts folder you can put ttf fonts in
[06:22] <cobelloy> something like ///:fonts in konk address bar I think
[06:22] <stevenj> install fonts from systems systems
[06:23] <stevenj> thanks
[06:23] <cobelloy> I could B wrong tho
[06:23] <stevenj> I can take dejuvo fonts anymore
[06:23] <cobelloy> can anyone help me get my ethernet configured?
[06:23] <stevenj> cant
[06:25] <cobelloy> steven - put tahoma here - /usr/share/fonts/truetype
[06:25] <cobelloy> just copy it from a windows fonts folder
[06:25] <cobelloy> and it should just work
[06:26] <cobelloy> you can put any ttf fonts you want in there
[06:26] <_charwood> How do I enabled Superkaramba stuffs in KDE 3.5?  Isn't it built in?
[06:27] <stevenj> thanks
[06:28] <nalioth> cobelloy: yes i'm here
[06:28] <ejofee> in kde / kcontrol / appearance and themes / [desktop's]  background: when i press the "get new wallpapers" [from the internet] , a window *immediately* pops up on which is written "empty page" (so it won't download any wallpaper). can anybody please help me?
[06:29] <nalioth> cobelloy: click alt-f2 > kdesu network-admin
[07:10] <cyne> anyone know how to find which package sendmail is in?
[07:10] <nalioth> !info sendmail
[07:10] <ubotu> sendmail: (powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent), section universe/mail, is extra. Version: 8.13.4-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 187 kB, Installed size: 244 kB
[07:10] <nalioth> cyne: easy question
[07:10] <cyne> :P
[07:11] <cyne> ah. it's in the universe repository that's why i can't find it :P
[07:11] <cyne> !info universe
[07:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cyne about repos
[07:11] <nalioth> cyne: enable universe and multiverse
[07:11] <cyne> yes
[07:11] <nalioth> cyne: you have a PM
[07:11] <cyne> i had it all setup before but i had to reinstall kubunutu
[07:15] <nalioth> stay away from non official repos
[07:16] <cyne> !easysource
[07:16] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:19] <nalioth> cyne: be wary of all the repos on the bottom of that page
[07:19] <cyne> ok nalioth
[07:19] <cyne> thankyou
[07:29] <LinuxMonk> help i got a major problem
[07:30] <LinuxMonk> i just installed a program to come to find out it copied the root pw as its own yet i had not changed it to my own yet, so I uninstall the package and now when i try to re-install it wont fully install cause it says it was a previously deselected package. how do I fix this
[07:31] <crimsun> please provide the full errors on pastebin
[07:31] <LinuxMonk> there no errors thats the problem
[07:31] <crimsun> that can't be, otherwise you'd have no issue
[07:32] <LinuxMonk> ok it installs some of the files but not all, i get no error, is there a way to tell the install system that it was never installed in the first place
[08:17] <blackflag> I have a question to the network profis
[08:18] <blackflag> Is it okay to do IP-aliasing on routers?
[08:18] <blackflag> is that a good design?
[08:18] <blackflag> Or is it better to have only one IP on the interfaces?
[08:19] <blackflag> cause someone tell me
[08:20] <blackflag> IP-aliasing is a bad design and breaks broadcasting
[08:20] <blackflag> that was totally new to me
[08:20] <blackflag> never heard that before
[08:20] <blackflag> so, someone is here how can tell something about?
[08:22] <_DOddo> Hi! I have the stranges problem when attempting to install mozilla firefox, can someone please help me?
[08:23] <blackflag> what is the problem?
[08:25] <_DOddo> blackflag: ive downloadet the program from their website, untared the file, but i can't run the firefox file without being sudo, and ./firefox just opens the browser window
[08:26] <blackflag> Why you dont use adept to install or manually in console?
[08:26] <blackflag> apt-get install firefox
[08:27] <_DOddo> blackflag: when i apt-get the file it seems to install correctly but when i try to run the file, it loads for a while but it doesn't run
[08:27] <blackflag> okay, it is a good idea to start firefox in console
[08:28] <blackflag> go in bash and type onlay firefox
[08:28] <_DOddo> blackflag: nothing happens when I do that, except the program loads for a while...
[08:29] <blackflag> may be is it a good idea to begin from new
[08:29] <blackflag> in that caases I install "synaptic" cause here here you can remove all cons..
[08:29] <blackflag> configs^
[08:30] <blackflag> after that you can install firefox new in synaptic
[08:30] <blackflag> all should run now
[08:30] <_DOddo> blackflag:okay  ill give it a try =)
[08:31] <blackflag> okay , tell when you are succesfull or not
[08:31] <_DOddo> blackflag: 'kay
[08:31] <blackflag> ?
[08:32] <blackflag> forgott something
[08:32] <blackflag> have you set your apt to a server in internet?
[08:32] <blackflag> to get the files?
[08:33] <blackflag> "apt-setup" ?point to a server near you
[08:33] <blackflag> and try the installation
[08:34] <_DOddo> blackflag: apt-setup okay ill try that
[08:35] <blackflag> have you done this?
[08:40] <quangdungx> hi, i want use unicode in kubuntu
[08:40] <quangdungx> can you help me?
[08:43] <doddo> blackflag: nah it still wont work properly
[08:43] <blackflag> okay , we try step by step
[08:44] <doddo> blackflag: okay
[08:44] <blackflag> go to console
[08:44] <doddo> done
[08:44] <blackflag> type "sudo -s"
[08:44] <blackflag> enter your password
[08:45] <doddo> done
[08:45] <blackflag> okay now: "apt-setup"
[08:45] <blackflag> a blue screen appear
[08:45] <quangdungx> what are you doing?
[08:46] <doddo> blackflag: done
[08:46] <blackflag> now you should be able to select access via cdrom, ftp, http...
[08:47] <blackflag> right?
[08:47] <doddo> right
[08:47] <blackflag> choose ftp
[08:47] <blackflag> select a server near your country or in your country
[08:47] <doddo> okay and country should be sweden for me as i am in sweden.
[08:48] <doddo> blackflag: okay now i apt-get update or?
[08:49] <blackflag> you can do that
[08:49] <blackflag> just do be shure
[08:49] <doddo> blackflag: okay done =)
[08:49] <blackflag> okay, " apt-get install firefox"
[08:50] <blackflag> what is going on?
[08:51] <doddo> its installing ..
[08:51] <doddo> blackflag: nah it still wont run!
[08:52] <blackflag> you are in console?
[08:52] <doddo> yup
[08:53] <blackflag> it could be that you need the package "mozilla-firefox"
[08:53] <blackflag> so try " apt-get install mozilla-firefox"
[08:53] <doddo> blackflag: i give it a try
[08:54] <ejofee> in kde / kcontrol / appearance and themes / [desktop's]  background: when i press the "get new wallpapers" [from the internet] , a window *immediately* pops up on which is written "empty page" (so it won't download any wallpaper). can anybody please help me?
[08:54] <doddo> blackflag: still doesn't work
[08:54] <blackflag> what you are doing?
[08:54] <blackflag> try  in console "firefox"
[08:55] <doddo> blackflag: apt-get install mozilla firefox and in console "firefox" doesnt work
[08:56] <blackflag> okay we go over synaptic
[08:56] <blackflag> type "synaptic"
[08:56] <doddo> okay ive started synaptic
[08:56] <blackflag> search for firefox
[08:57] <doddo> okay
[08:57] <blackflag> ohh try typing firfox without the""
[08:57] <doddo> done
[08:57] <doddo> okay
[08:57] <blackflag> now you see if its installed
[08:57] <blackflag> if not, select the packages aou need and install it
[08:58] <doddo> it says that it is
[08:58] <blackflag> okay then try typing again firefox
[08:58] <blackflag> without the "
[08:59] <blackflag> do it as normal user
[08:59] <doddo> nothing happened this time either, i do not get an error msg and the program doesnt launch
[09:00] <blackflag> is firefox in KDE menu > Internet ?
[09:00] <doddo> nope
[09:00] <blackflag> okay you have a console open as a normal user
[09:01] <blackflag> if not open it
[09:01] <blackflag> and try typing again firefox
[09:01] <blackflag> is this dont run
[09:01] <blackflag> ls /usr/bin
[09:01] <blackflag> and look if firefox is there
[09:02] <doddo__> ok
[09:02] <blackflag> firefox is in ?
[09:02] <doddo__> yeah it is there
[09:02] <doddo__> yep
[09:02] <doddo__> in /usr/bin i have a firefox file
[09:03] <blackflag> is it executable?
[09:03] <blackflag> ls -l
[09:04] <blackflag> you can try typing in console /usr/bin/firfox
[09:04] <doddo__> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 30 2006-01-10 08:50 firefox -> ../lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox
[09:05] <blackflag> okay try /usr/bin/firefox
[09:06] <doddo__> it says there's no such file or cataloge
[09:06] <viviersf> erm
[09:06] <blackflag> that can not be
[09:06] <doddo__> ah i spelled it wrong
[09:06] <blackflag> you say it is in there
[09:07] <blackflag> check if you type correctly
[09:07] <doddo__> yep its cyan
[09:08] <doddo__> blackflag: same it wont start!
[09:08] <blackflag> may be it a permission thing
[09:09] <blackflag> go in console
[09:09] <blackflag> as root
[09:09] <blackflag> sudo -s
[09:09] <blackflag> and try again /usr/bin/firefox
[09:09] <doddo__> okay
[09:10] <doddo__> cannot open display. should i try to chown firefox?
[09:11] <blackflag> yes
[09:11] <doddo__> ..same result; nothing happened
[09:12] <blackflag> okay , I woul recommend that you remove all firoxes with synaptic
[09:12] <blackflag> and installing again with synaptic
[09:13] <doddo__> okay im removing all firefoxes
[09:15] <doddo__> and installing...
[09:15] <doddo__> naah it still doesnt run :/
[09:16] <ejofee> dapper will use xorg 6.9 or xorg 7.0?
[09:16] <blackflag> tell me what you are doing
[09:16] <ejofee> nothing, i just want to know
[09:16] <ejofee> i don't use dapper yet
[09:17] <doddo__> blackflag i installed it with synaptic and then i ran console and wrote "firefox" without ""
[09:17] <blackflag> try th whole path: /usr/bin/firefox
[09:18] <doddo__> blackflag: same result ..
[09:18] <doddo__> blackflag: do i need "firefox-dev" ?
[09:18] <blackflag> you have an error msg?
[09:19] <blackflag> no
[09:19] <doddo__> blackflag: nah no error message
[09:19] <blackflag> what happens?
[09:20] <doddo__> blackflag:  nothing at all
[09:20] <s_spiff> hello pppl
[09:20] <blackflag> that can not be
[09:20] <s_spiff>  just got my 5 CD set of Ubuntu!
[09:20] <s_spiff>  by mail!
[09:21] <doddo__> blackflag: doddo@puh:/usr/bin$ /usr/bin/firefox
[09:21] <doddo__> blackflag: doddo@puh:/usr/bin$
[09:21] <doddo__> blackflag: thats what happens
[09:22] <rjb> hello #kubuntu
[09:22] <rjb> got a question: how do i stop kscd from popping up when an audio cd is inserted?
[09:22] <blackflag> okay, try kbuildsycoca in concole
[09:23] <s_spiff> rjb, check out its preferences, may have a option for it
[09:23] <blackflag> doddo^
[09:23] <doddo__> blackflag: as sudo or as regular user?
[09:23] <blackflag> or try a reboot
[09:24] <blackflag> as user
[09:25] <doddo__> kbuildsycoca: ERROR creating database '/var/tmp/kdecache-doddo/ksycoca'
[09:26] <blackflag> doddo: and as root?
[09:26] <rjb> s_spiff: indeed there is an `autoplay' option, but unchecking it seems to have no effect
[09:27] <s_spiff>  umm... did u try the wiki for anything on it rjb?
[09:27] <Dreamless> Hey i have a problem i get this when i try to run Kdevdesigner: QPainter::begin: Cannot paint null pixmap
[09:27] <Dreamless> im using the fglrx driver..
[09:27] <doddo__> blackflag: i get a lot of warning messages and Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-doddo" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[09:30] <blackflag> okay, th en I would look who is the owner of that file
[09:30] <blackflag> It should you
[09:33] <rjb> s_spiff: nuthinn found
[09:34] <doddo__> blackflag:  who should be the owner?
[09:34] <blackflag> you, the user
[09:35] <doddo__> blackflag: it is now. i changed it
[09:35] <blackflag> both. user and group?
[09:36] <blackflag> then run again as user kbuildsycoca
[09:36] <doddo__> blackflag: IT WORKS NOW thanks a lot
[09:36] <blackflag> okay :-)
[09:37] <doddo__> blackflag:  thanks for letting me waste your time like that :-)
[09:37] <blackflag> its okay
[09:38] <blackflag> sometimes I have questions too
[09:38] <blackflag> and that was Internet and Linux make it great
[09:38] <blackflag> and the people who helping and using it
[09:38] <doddo__> blackflag: absolutely
[09:39] <blackflag> and how is the wheater in sweden?
[09:39] <blackflag> cold
[09:39] <blackflag> ?
[09:40] <doddo__> blackflag: i dont know ive stayed inside but yesturday it was quite cold and they where removing snow from the roofs so you had to walk in the middle of the street
[09:40] <blackflag> nice, walking with ski's?
[09:41] <doddo__> blackflag: something like that %) How's the weather where you are from?
[09:42] <blackflag> Iam from germany its cold and grey, no snow here
[09:43] <doddo__> blackflag: i see germany, its quite nice there?
[09:43] <doddo__> except for the weather
[09:44] <blackflag> its okay, could be better! how everywhere
[09:45] <rjb> duh, doesn't anyone know how to disable kscd autostarting ?
[09:45] <doddo__> okay =)
[09:46] <doddo__> blackflag: i have another question for you; how do i chown all the files in a directory?
[09:46] <rjb> chown user:group *
[09:46] <rjb> chown -R ... to work down subdirectories
[09:47] <blackflag> have a look to man chown
[09:48] <doddo__> rjb: thanx
[09:49] <rjb> oh & another q: howto customize kdm login screen in kubuntu?
[09:49] <rjb> the kdm setting module that usually does it in kde doesn't seem to work
[09:54] <cplusplus> hi
[09:55] <cplusplus> whats the difference between live and intall cd?
[09:55] <Tm_T> livecd=you run system from cd without installing anything
[09:55] <ilba7r> live cd for testing. It does not install anything on hard disk but you run the operating system from the cd
[10:02] <rjb> wow. are there no kubuntu users with a clue hanging out here?
[10:05] <rjb> too bad. CU
[10:16] <moty> Hi, new with kubuntu...
[10:16] <ilba7r> hi moty
[10:16] <moty> which debian repo's can be used with kubuntu breezy
[10:16] <ilba7r> !repos
[10:16] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:17] <moty> but those r not debian repositories?
[10:18] <ilba7r> moty it is not advisable to add debian for ubunttu rules diff a little from deb
[10:18] <ilba7r> moty some packages work fine some might break your sys
[10:18] <moty> yea i know
[10:19] <moty> i just wants some debs that for some reason ubuntu still havent got them
[10:19] <wsjunior> hello guys, i've just installed kubuntu 5.10 and i'd like to upgrade kde to 3.5. does anybody can tell how to do that?
[10:27] <moty> ok and what about firefox 1.5 deb? is there any?
[10:28] <ilba7r> !FF15
[10:28] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, ilba7r
[10:28] <ilba7r> !FIREFIX
[10:28] <ubotu> ilba7r: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:28] <ilba7r> !ff 1.5
[10:28] <ubotu> ilba7r: No idea
[10:28] <moty> ha?
[10:29] <ilba7r> there is a page on the wiki
[10:29] <ilba7r> !ff
[10:29] <ubotu> ilba7r: What?
[10:29] <cplusplus> but i think you can install all from livecd or no?
[10:29] <moty> so is there any?
[10:29] <ilba7r> motty firefox can not be installed without breaking some packages for servers
[10:30] <ilba7r> let me search the link on how to instal it on your pc
[10:30] <moty> so the answer is not there arent
[10:30] <cplusplus> ilba7r install cd right?
[10:30] <ilba7r> nope there is one for dapper not for breezy
[10:30] <moty> well i use breezy
[10:30] <ilba7r> cplusplus, you need the install cd to install ubontu
[10:30] <moty> so its still no
[10:30] <moty> wonder why
[10:31] <ilba7r> !firefox
[10:31] <moty> the same with debain based distro's
[10:31] <cplusplus> ilba7r but at gentoo i used live cd to install the system!?
[10:31] <ilba7r> !firefox
[10:31] <moty> allways 2 years behind
[10:31] <cplusplus> hm...maybe because i downloaded all packages from internet?
[10:31] <ilba7r> t1tell moty about firefox
[10:31] <ilba7r> !tell moty about firefox
[10:32] <ilba7r> at last
[10:32] <ilba7r> fffffffffff
[10:32] <ilba7r> moty you can just download the tar from firefox and run it directly
[10:32] <moty> so guys i'm really confused in here
[10:32] <moty> r there any 1.5 firefox debs?
[10:33] <ilba7r> moty there is an explanation on distrowatch by the backport guys on why not it is risky to even backport firefox 1.5 on breezy
[10:33] <moty> ok i see
[10:34] <moty> ok and another one...
[10:34] <moty> what about some eye candies like taskbarc2 kbfx and such r there any debs?
[10:34] <moty> for breezy
[10:35] <ilba7r> moty i do not know. you can try synaptic or ubotu
[10:36] <ilba7r> !info kbfx
[10:36] <moty> there is no one on ubuntu
[10:36] <ilba7r> so type it as i did !info and then package name ubotu will search the package list for you
[10:37] <ilba7r> moty if it is not there you can request it be added to drapper
[10:37] <ilba7r> sorry dapper now i will be away continue watching my movie take care
[10:38] <Dreamless> Hey i have a problem i get this when i try to run Kdevdesigner: QPainter::begin: Cannot paint null pixmap is there any way i can upgrade kde and might get the problem to go away?
[10:38] <moty> 3 years with linux 1.5 with gentoo and i can clearly say there aint not even one distro that can forfill my needs
[10:39] <jose> hi all
[10:39] <jose> i hope someone can help me with my wireless because i'm getting crazy :D
[10:52] <brosiooz> anyone known if exist a c/c++ compilator for windows mobile 2005 for pda ?
[10:55] <keithalexander> has anyone got speedtouch workin on kubuntu-ppc?
[11:03] <lotusnet> haiiii
[11:05] <jose> hi
[11:08] <ilba7r> jose i might help a little
[11:37] <m0ns00n> Hey
[11:37] <m0ns00n> Isn't it possible to copy a file tree over another one without replacing folders?
[11:37] <m0ns00n> I tried Krusader now
[11:37] <m0ns00n> I'm copying a folder "contrib/" over another folder "contrib/" to add files to the folder
[11:37] <m0ns00n> But KDE wants to replace that folder entirely
[11:37] <m0ns00n> Is there another way?
[11:38] <ilba7r> m0ns00n, try rsync
[11:38] <m0ns00n> rsync?
[11:38] <m0ns00n> Why on earth?
[11:38] <ilba7r> i guess you are trying to syncornize both folders right
[11:38] <m0ns00n> Then I could prolly use copy -R
[11:38] <m0ns00n> Sure
[11:38] <m0ns00n> but with GUI
[11:38] <m0ns00n> KDE can't copy file trees?
[11:39] <ilba7r> do not know a gui one
[11:39] <m0ns00n> LOL
[11:39] <m0ns00n> hehe
[11:39] <m0ns00n> The KDE developers can't use the GUI they developed much then
[11:39] <m0ns00n> =)
[11:39] <ilba7r> am not a developer just a user like you
[11:39] <m0ns00n> I know
[11:39] <m0ns00n> It's just annoying
[11:39] <m0ns00n> One of the few
[11:40] <dipnlik> m0ns00n: you could enter the 1st contrib folder, select all, copy, enter the 2nd contrib then paste :)
[11:40] <m0ns00n> Wel
[11:40] <m0ns00n> There are other subfolders
[11:40] <m0ns00n> in the folder I am copying and the source
[11:40] <dipnlik> hm
[11:40] <m0ns00n> which are the same with different files
[11:40] <ilba7r> rsync is just oneliner much faster
[11:40] <ilba7r> let me give you the syntax
[11:40] <m0ns00n> I should file a bug report "wishlist"
[11:40] <dipnlik> if they are the same, then rsync! :D
[11:41] <m0ns00n> hogne@utvikling:~/Desktop$ rsync contrib aros/contrib
[11:41] <m0ns00n> skipping directory contrib
[11:42] <ilba7r> rsync -avzog <source> <destination>
[11:42] <m0ns00n> oki
[11:42] <ilba7r> make a copy beofre you use it then experiment with it
[11:43] <ilba7r> zog will preserve ownership
[11:46] <dipnlik> m0ns00n: you can always use -n on rsync for it to not commit any changes
[11:46] <dipnlik> m0ns00n: so you can get sure it is doing the right things
[11:49] <m0ns00n> Don't you agree that there should be an option to KDE to use this when copying folders?
[11:49] <m0ns00n> In addition to link?
[11:49] <m0ns00n> Perhaps there are already
[11:49] <m0ns00n> I haven't checked kde-look/apps
[11:49] <m0ns00n> It's very often that I need this functionality, and it's faster if it would work in a gui
[11:59] <Krishnautix> hey I installed ipmsg, i wanna know, how to get that thing in my menu?
[12:56] <thegladiator> kde 3.5 is not stable ?
[12:56] <thegladiator> beep beep
[12:57] <Hobbsee> it's reasonably stable - some people have problems, some dont
[12:57] <thegladiator> i am having  few problems as well
[12:58] <thegladiator> like when I open settings , I might not see the apply button
[12:58] <wsjunior> which is the prefix to compile new programs for kde?
[12:58] <wsjunior> kde-config --prefix tells me /usr
[12:59] <thegladiator> when I open system settings I cant see apply button!
[12:59] <wsjunior> but i get an error like "in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed...."
[12:59] <Hobbsee> wsjunior: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-devel
[12:59] <wsjunior> Hobbsee: thanks
[12:59] <Hobbsee> no problems
[01:00] <thegladiator> karamba is very cool
[01:01] <Hobbsee> it is :_
[01:01] <Hobbsee> *:)
[01:02] <wsjunior> Hobbsee: it doesn't exists... :( is that the right name?
[01:02] <Hobbsee> oops!
[01:02] <Hobbsee> kde-devel
[01:02] <wsjunior> :)
[01:05] <wsjunior> Hobbsee: it seems that this package depends on other kde4 packages..
[01:06] <Hobbsee> wsjunior: yes, and the problem?
[01:06] <wsjunior> kdelibs4-dev and libkonq4-dev
[01:06] <wsjunior> well..
[01:06] <mvv> Hi guys, is there a common way to check a revision number of an already compiled app?
[01:07] <Hobbsee> mvv: appname --version
[01:07] <Hobbsee> usually works
[01:07] <Hobbsee> if it's in the repos, apt-cache show
[01:08] <wsjunior> Hobbsee: isn't there any problems since i'm using kde 3.5?
[01:08] <mvv> Hobbsee: i am sorry, i meant a SVN version
[01:08] <Hobbsee> wsjunior: it should be fine
[01:09] <Hobbsee> mvv: no clue then, sorry
[01:09] <mvv> Hobbsee: aight, thanks anyway :)
[01:09] <wsjunior> too much complication just to compile a simple program, but i'll try
[01:15] <ja> hi
[01:17] <Hobbsee> hi
[01:18] <ja> when I logout of GNOME (running in gdm) I have the option of hibernating my laptop but when I use KDE (running on kdm) I only have the option to end current session, reboot or shutdown.  How can I hibernate from KDE?
[01:23] <Hobbsee> ja: the klaptop demon at the bottom corner of your scren
[01:23] <ja> Hobbsee: Thanks :-)
[01:24] <Hobbsee> no problems
[01:43] <wifi-pulubi> help
[01:44] <wifi-pulubi> my kubuntu setup disabled 2 nic cards, error uccurs when i enable it
[01:44] <wifi-pulubi> i want to setup pppoe on one of the nic
[01:54] <dec0ding> is there any additional ISO to download for people that use Kubuntu without Internet access?
[01:59] <burepe> I am trying to use qtorrent, but it won't show up in the menu and when I start the gui from the command line I can't see how to change the ports. Any suggestions?
[02:03] <mase> !webcam
[02:03] <ubotu> methinks webcam is now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.
[02:11] <burepe> !qtorrent
[02:11] <ubotu> burepe: I give up, what is it?
[02:11] <burepe> !ktorrent
[02:11] <ubotu> [ktorrent]  a KDE bittorrent client. It is available in breezy/universe, while the latest version is available in breezy-backports/universe.
[02:13] <mase> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[02:13] <mase> how do i fix this
[02:13] <ninapina> !firefox
[02:14] <ninapina> !firefox1.5
[02:14] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:14] <ninapina> hmm. no firefox 1.5 .deb via apt?
[02:15] <Hobbsee> no
[02:18] <nase> !mp3
[02:18] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:27] <ninapina> so (k)ubuntu does not offer an apt-get'able .deb for firefox 1.5?? that's really poor!! probably the most used app of all!?!
[02:28] <nase> you can just download the latest  .deb and install it
[02:28] <kkathman> ninapina: in fact, (k)ubuntu does have an apt-getable for firefox just not the most recent release
[02:29] <nase> Could not connect to mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[02:29] <nase> can anyone else connect to it?
[02:30] <kkathman> ninapina: this of course, makes sense. Like, most distros, people working on ubuntu are volunteers and when getting the most recent version of FF1.5 in this case is so easy, its rather stupid to spend resources to create a deb.
[02:30] <jorik> how can i have the text under the icons on my dekstop be white ?
[02:34] <ninapina> kkathman - so you saying that it is more sensible that each and every user of firefox install manually, rather than one .deb is created and install automagically whenever one updates the rest of the system? sounds very non-community like to me - and very individualised - but that is not to say that i don't appreciate that there is a lot of voluntary effort.
[02:35] <kkathman> ninapina: in the case of firefox, yes
[02:35] <kkathman> for crying out loud, you downolad it and untar it, create a symlink and your done...not rocket science
[02:36] <nase> mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl not working for me..
[02:36] <nase> does it work for anyone?
[02:37] <kkathman> works for me nase
[02:37] <nase> wtf... why doesnt it work here
[02:37] <kkathman> i dunno
[02:37] <nase> also
[02:37] <nase> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[02:37] <nase> why do i keep getting this
[02:37] <nase> i already have linux-kernel-headers installed
[02:39] <nase> any ideas? :/
[02:39] <kkathman> nase you probably need to update using Adept, then do a dist-upgrade on breezy, since the current linux kernel is 2.6.12-10
[02:40] <nase> alright
[02:40] <nase> full upgrade on adept?
[02:40] <kkathman> nase, well anything that shows it needs upgrading :)
[02:41] <crystufer> Hey, what would I do to solve a printer issue?
[02:42] <nase> throw it at the wall
[02:42] <crystufer> The printer just stopped working.
[02:43] <kkathman> crystufer: anything done to the system between the time it last worked?
[02:44] <crystufer> Yeah. I installed a bunch of stuff.
[02:44] <crystufer> SunJava, Limewire, gtkpod, amule, bittorent
[02:45] <kkathman> crystufer: is it a direct connect printer or through cups to another printer?
[02:45] <crystufer> cups to a directly connected printer.
[02:46] <kkathman> crystufer: ok, first I'd remove the printer completely, reboot, then add the printer back and see if that doesnt solve the problem.
[02:46] <nase> kkathman,  how will i remove the previous kernel from GRUB and all after i install the new one?
[02:47] <crystufer> Anything I should try after that, or should I just return?
[02:47] <kkathman> nase:  you dont have to remove the kernel from GRUB, one of the beauties of (k)ubuntu is that when a new kernel is installed it automatically updates the GRUB for you.
[02:47] <kkathman> nase just download the updates, and do a dist-upgrade through sudo apt-get
[02:47] <nase> yes..
[02:48] <nase> well
[02:48] <nase> adept is installing it for me
[02:48] <nase> o_O
[02:48] <kkathman> there are alot of upgrades today for some reason :)
[02:49] <nase> but i mean
[02:49] <nase> leave the OLD kernel off grub
[02:49] <nase> and my HD
[02:49] <nase> only leave the new one
[02:50] <kkathman> nase the dist-upgrade I believe does this automatically...I've never had to manually adjust my GRUB for a kernel upgrade
[02:56] <ganymed> hallo.
[02:56] <kkathman> hi ganymed :)
[02:58] <ganymed> i would like to write from windows to a linux partition. does anybody know whether and how can do that
[02:58] <ganymed> ?
[03:03] <ganymed> or is there an easy and SAVE way to write to ntfs in linux?
[03:03] <dec0ding> is there any additional ISO to download for people that use Kubuntu without Internet access?
[03:06] <kkathman> ganymed: you can copy from windows to a linux partition just fine
[03:06] <dec0ding> is there any additional ISO to download for people that use Kubuntu without Internet access?
[03:06] <kkathman> dec0ding: not at present
[03:07] <karlwrk> ganymed: captive is allegedly working well and reliably
[03:07] <ganymed> no. then the reverse
[03:07] <dec0ding> damn
[03:07] <karlwrk> also, there's kernel option for ntfs write that claims it is reliable
[03:07] <ganymed> either i copy from win to lin in windows or the reverse in linux... i just want to avoid using fat32 :)
[03:08] <sps_br> hi all! need some help here, my "us_intl" keyboard option is gone in kde, anyone have the same problem?
[03:08] <ganymed> and i want to have the /home partition there... so it should be really "linux-proof"
[03:09] <karlwrk> it might just have a different name, have you tried system settings->regional and accesibility?
[03:09] <thegladiator> ADEPT is crashing after every install/upgrade that I do . what could be the cause of this ? it does till the last stage seemingly of the installation , and closes all by itself ! and kde signals a crash . I am using kde 3.5 using #kubuntu-dektop package
[03:09] <karlwrk> you want to have /home on ntfs?
[03:09] <karlwrk> who are you trying to protect from whom?
[03:10] <thegladiator> can someone enlighten me about adept crashing every now and then ?
[03:11] <thegladiator> i mean after installation  only ?
[03:11] <karlwrk> adept is just buggy, best I can tell :)
[03:11] <ganymed> i need to have win and linux on one pc... and i wanna use a /home dir that is on a separat partition, that can be accessed from windows (r/w)...
[03:11] <thegladiator> karlwrk, have you felt it also ?
[03:11] <kkathman> thegladiator: I can tell you its never crashed on me since I installed
[03:11] <thegladiator> kkathman, :(
[03:11] <karlwrk> it crashed on me about 5 timss in the first 2 days
[03:11] <kkathman> thegladiator: you can, of course, use other methods
[03:12] <thegladiator> its crashing on me after installation
[03:12] <thegladiator> yes . i have synaptic
[03:12] <sps_br> can someone help? my "us_intl" keyboard option is gone in kde 3.5
[03:12] <thegladiator> the one I prefer
[03:12] <karlwrk> it's a much nicer browser than apt-cache search
[03:12] <thegladiator> shud install kynaptic i guess
[03:12] <karlwrk> sps_br: did you try my suggestion?
[03:12] <kkathman> synaptic should work, or just the apt-get system
[03:13] <sps_br> karlwrk: its not there anymore, it was called "us with deadkeys"
[03:14] <kkathman> sps_br:  K-menu, System Settings, Regional&Accessibility, Keyboard Layouts
[03:14] <karlwrk> so it was there?
[03:15] <sps_br> karlwrk: it was b4 upgrade to kde 3.5
[03:16] <sps_br> karlwrk: i am running kanotix now (dual boot kanotix/kubuntu) same problem after kde 3.5 upgrade
[03:16] <sps_br> karlwrk: don't know if its caused by kde 3.5 or xorg 6.9
[03:16] <karlwrk> my only thought would be that it has changed it's name
[03:17] <karlwrk> you upgr5aded xorg as well?
[03:17] <sps_br> karlwrk: yes, i did
[03:17] <sps_br> karlwrk: hehe, in kubuntu and kanotix, so i dont know the cause
[03:17] <ismail> hi all
[03:18] <kkathman> Im not 100% sure that kde3.5 and xorg 7 are in sync :)
[03:18] <thegladiator> has any one checked out the system settings in KDE 3.5 ?
[03:18] <ismail> i m trying to setup kdm theme manager
[03:18] <ismail> but i cant
[03:18] <kkathman> I know, for a fact, that kde3.5 is out of sync with many apps
[03:18] <thegladiator> there seems  to be some major bugs in kde 3.5 system setting
[03:18] <crystufer> Okay, so I can't get my printer going again. Every time I start the printer it looks like it's working, but then as soon as I send it a job, it shows it not working.
[03:18] <kkathman> crystufer: can you print a test page?
[03:19] <crystufer> Nope.
[03:19] <ismail> how can i change my theme
[03:19] <ismail> :'((
[03:19] <kkathman> jsmail systemsettings, appearance
[03:19] <crystufer> ismail start>system settings
[03:19] <crystufer> appearance
[03:19] <crystufer> theme manager
[03:19] <ganymed> have to go. thx and ciao
[03:19] <ismail> i dont have theme manager
[03:20] <crystufer> Are you using kubuntu?
[03:20] <ismail> yes
[03:20] <kkathman> crystufer: you went through the printer wizard in the systemsettings?
[03:20] <ismail> 64 bit
[03:20] <crystufer> Then you have theme manager.
[03:20] <crystufer> kkathman: Yes.
[03:20] <ismail> no really
[03:20] <Prozac> how do i setup a user-defined identd?
[03:20] <thegladiator> can someone using kde 3.5 please help me by checking out a bug ?
[03:20] <crystufer> ismail it might not be in that menu. Try using the konquerer system settings menu.
[03:20] <thegladiator> on kde 3.5 please open ---> K panel ---> systm settings
[03:21] <ismail> ok
[03:21] <thegladiator> open system settings menu and click on appearance
[03:21] <thegladiator> someone?
[03:21] <ismail> ok
[03:21] <ismail> then
[03:21] <crystufer> thegladiator: I'm working on it.
[03:21] <kkathman> crystufer: what does the system show as the address to your printer
[03:21] <thegladiator> crystufer, isnt that a bug ?
[03:21] <crystufer> parallel:/dev/lp0
[03:22] <crystufer> thegladiator: I don't see anything.
[03:22] <thegladiator> crystufer, you dont see no bugs do you mean?
[03:22] <ismail> i m looking system settins for 3 days
[03:22] <kkathman> crystufer: hmm, but didnt you tell me that it was on another computer on the network?
[03:22] <ismail> i m gettig crayz
[03:22] <crystufer> I mean I don't know what I'm looking for, thegladiator. But if I resize I get problems.
[03:23] <kkathman> ismail:  alt-f2  type systemsettings
[03:23] <thegladiator> crystufer, resizing is what I am talking about
[03:23] <crystufer> kkathman: No, it's on mine, but I'm using the cupsd.
[03:23] <thegladiator> crystufer, when U resize the background window overlaps or somrthing correct ?
[03:23] <kkathman> crystufer: oh ok, I just misunderstood
[03:23] <thegladiator> crystufer, isnt that the nature of the problem ?
[03:23] <ismail> kkathman there is no
[03:23] <crystufer> thegladiator: No, when I resize, it shows the system settings menu.
[03:24] <crystufer> And I can't use the back button. I've been using the konquerer menu.
[03:24] <crystufer> Way more usable.
[03:24] <thegladiator> exactly thats the problem I am having as well , you cant press apply as well , no ?
[03:24] <kkathman> ismail:  you have a some major problems then I'd say
[03:24] <thegladiator> like the apply button etc is missing , when you resize u see the setting menu
[03:24] <kkathman> ismail: did you install from a CD or upgrade?
[03:24] <thegladiator> correct crystufer ?
[03:25] <ismail> install from a cd
[03:25] <crystufer> thegladiator: I'd just open konquerer and use that system menu. You are correct. Big bug.
[03:25] <kkathman> ismail: kubuntu CD ?
[03:25] <ismail> yes
[03:25] <thegladiator> Big Big Bug . hope they resolve it next tie atleaset . You can use knqueror or kcontrol directly
[03:26] <crystufer> kkathman: So I tried that reboot thing. Didn't work.
[03:26] <crystufer> And I think cupsd is still running, because the jobs show up on my tray, but no printing occurs.
[03:27] <ismail> i open kcontrol
[03:27] <kkathman> ismail:  I wonder if you could hit alt-f2 and type   kate /etc/apt/sources.list   and then cut and paste the contents to paste.ubuntu-nl.org please.
[03:27] <ismail> then i changed it
[03:27] <crystufer> Paste bin!!!!
[03:27] <crystufer> !paste
[03:27] <ubotu> hmm... paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[03:28] <crystufer> sorry, easily excited.
[03:29] <crystufer> So you don't know any solution for me, kkathman?
[03:29] <kkathman> crystufer: not offhand no.
[03:30] <crystufer> Know a route I could go to find it?
[03:30] <ismail> anyway thanks for help
[03:30] <ismail> i have to go
[03:31] <kkathman> crystufer: it sounds as if maybe your printer isnt being recognized, driverwise
[03:31] <crystufer> I'd say that the problem might have something to do with the cupsd, but I don't know how to fix such a thing. Is there a way to re-install cups as though it were a fresh install?
[03:32] <kkathman> crystufer: what kind of printer is it?
[03:33] <crystufer> HP Deskjet 842 C. I'm using the foomatic hpjis driver, whatever that is. It is definitely supported, and it used to work fine.
[03:33] <kkathman> crystufer:  thats what I have actually
[03:33] <kkathman> crystufer: see if this helps:  http://www.linuxprinting.org/cups-doc.html
[03:33] <crystufer> Wow.
[03:33] <crystufer> You have the same printer?
[03:33] <kkathman> yep
[03:34] <crystufer> What are the odds?
[03:34] <maze> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[03:34] <crystufer> (rhetorical)
[03:34] <maze> i have kernel headers installed
[03:34] <kkathman> except mine is on a windows machine on my network and I use cups to printer to it
[03:34] <maze> but keep getting that
[03:36] <kkathman> maze: are you getting any other errors??  Like directory errors...not being able to access for instance?
[03:37] <maze> no
[03:37] <maze> make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build SUBDIRS=/home/mase/spca5xx-20060101 CC=cc modules
[03:37] <maze> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[03:37] <maze> make: *** [default]  Error 2
[03:38] <kkathman> maze: have you downloaded and upgraded to the new kernel?
[03:38] <maze> yes
[03:38] <kkathman> did you do a dist-upgrade?
[03:38] <maze> yes
[03:38] <kkathman> can you verify that this directory does not exist?
[03:40] <maze> it doesnt
[03:41] <kkathman> i'd say that your -10 install failed then
[03:42] <maze> uh no
[03:42] <kkathman> maze: can you please type uname -a and check your kernel version
[03:42] <maze> i had the same error on the old kernel
[03:42] <maze> Linux logic 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Thu Dec 22 11:37:10 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:42] <kkathman> ahhhh 686
[03:43] <kkathman> oops
[03:43] <maze> ?
[03:43] <kkathman> ah never mind sorry
[03:44] <kkathman> maze are you trying to do an install of a WPA ?
[03:44] <maze> whats an WPA
[03:44] <maze> its a webcam driver
[03:44] <kkathman> ie a wireless
[03:44] <kkathman> I see only one reference to that error in Google and it had to do with a wireless with WPA
[03:46] <kkathman> maze: on my system, all the kernel modules, etc are in that directory
[03:46] <maze> shrug
[03:46] <kkathman> so there's something definitely very wrong
[03:46] <crystufer> Hey, what's the command for looking at all my devices?
[03:47] <snaggle> Hey! I have a problem, i just installed Kubuntu to my Fujitsu/Siemens D Amilo 8830 laptop. But i cant get my laptop screen to work, i have to use an external screen. Anyone know what the problem is. I am new to linux
[03:47] <maze> lsusb?
[03:47] <karlwrk> lspci too
[03:50] <crystufer> snaggle, I'd say that your problem is similar to the one I had with this computer.
[03:51] <crystufer> I couldn't get my monitor to show more than 800x600
[03:52] <snaggle> well i dont get anything on my screen when i boot up. So i have to use my Samsung tft-screen. Do you know how i can get my laptop screen to work?
[03:52] <crystufer> http://wiki.kubuntu.org/FixVideoResolutionHowto?highlight=%28resolution%29
[03:53] <crystufer> This help me out. You will need to gather all the information about your laptops display setup first though.
[03:54] <kkathman> crystufer: did that link I sent you on cups help at all?
[03:55] <crystufer> Not really.
[03:56] <crystufer> But I'm not done looking through it.
[04:20] <thegladiator> whats the best image viewing program for kde ?
[04:20] <thegladiator> kwickshow ?
[04:20] <thegladiator> please name it so that I can install
[04:20] <thegladiator> i installed kubuntu-dekstop
[04:20] <thegladiator> on ubuntu
[04:21] <thegladiator> someone please ?
[04:21] <kkathman> thegladiator: I think there are several already in your graphics menu under k-menu
[04:21] <apokryphos> thegladiator: it depends on what you want
[04:21] <thegladiator> there are but I didnt like gwenview
[04:21] <apokryphos> digiKam and gwenview are both very good
[04:21] <thegladiator> is it ?
[04:21] <apokryphos> yes
[04:21] <kkathman> thegladiator: just try them and see which one you like
[04:22] <kkathman> if you dont, uninstall them
[04:22] <thegladiator> its taking more than a split second to load the image of 1600 size
[04:22] <thegladiator> its the normal speed ?
[04:22] <apokryphos> thegladiator: on digikam?
[04:22] <apokryphos> I've noticed that it's incredibly quick
[04:22] <thegladiator> digiKam ?
[04:22] <thegladiator> i will try that
[04:22] <apokryphos> with my graphics card I can't click over fast enough before it regenerates the images :P
[04:23] <thegladiator> heh e
[04:23] <apokryphos> it has a lot of other really nice/handy things too
[04:23] <ice> does anyone have vmware installed ?
[04:23] <sps_br> anyone using us_intl keyboard layout and kde 3.5?
[04:24] <ice> having problems with it
[04:25] <dec0ding> hello, I am coordinator of a Lug in my town and we are supporting Kubuntu as primary OS that we advice the members of using...we should add logo of Kubuntu on our website, what do u recommend to put?
[04:25] <dec0ding> which logo I mean
[04:25] <apokryphos> dec0ding: there's the svg source on the Kubuntu wiki entry
[04:25] <apokryphos> (of the Kubuntu logo, that is)
[04:25] <dec0ding> ah
[04:26] <apokryphos> dec0ding: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu
[04:26] <dec0ding> thanks
[04:26] <dec0ding> we are neighbours u know, I suppose
[04:26] <apokryphos> actually, it was moved to here: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuArtwork
[04:26] <apokryphos> dec0ding: we are? :)
[04:26] <dec0ding> your name tells you are from Greece?
[04:27] <dec0ding> I am from your north neighbouring country ;)
[04:27] <Blippe> xorg goes nuts and starts using 20%+ (from 2-3) anytime i start a gnome-app (or xmms) (using kde3.5 from kubuntu packages), is this a fluke or something known?
[04:28] <apokryphos> dec0ding: Greek, but living in England =)
[04:28] <Blippe> three gnome-apps quickly makes xorg use more than 60%
[04:28] <dec0ding> apokryphos: ahh Yas ou
[04:28] <Jrwa> hi there from spain
[04:28] <Blippe> (of cpu)
[04:28] <Jrwa> I've just upgraded to dapper, and I've got a problem with locales. Is that because of the unestable or can it be fixed right now?
[04:28] <apokryphos> dec0ding: Yia :). Bulgaria?
[04:29] <dec0ding> apokryphos: Macedonia
[04:29] <apokryphos> Jrwa: unstable
[04:29] <apokryphos> ah, ok; cool :)
[04:29] <dec0ding> ahh it is cool :))
[04:29] <apokryphos> dec0ding: good to hear that you decided to u se Kubuntu :)
[04:29] <dec0ding> hehe
[04:29] <dec0ding> well we like KDE and Kubuntu is the best KDE Desktop OS we have tested here
[04:29] <Jrwa> apokryphos, any hint on when is it being fixed? I just can't type accents on KDE apps
[04:30] <apokryphos> Jrwa: not really; dapper is unstable and broken; really not recommended that you use it, and certainly not so early in the running.
[04:30] <Jrwa> ok, just wanted to know that. thanks ^^
[04:34] <thegladiator> am I connected ?
[04:34] <apokryphos> no
[04:34] <thegladiator> :(
[04:35] <thegladiator> google is not loading
[04:36] <[1] darkmatter> hi, can a complete linux newbie ask for help here? :D
[04:37] <nalioth> [1] darkmatter: no you cannot.
[04:37] <[1] darkmatter> argh :(
[04:37] <apokryphos> [1] darkmatter: unfortunately not.
[04:37] <apokryphos> [1] darkmatter: we're kidding :)
[04:37] <apokryphos> we are here to help 8)
[04:37] <[1] darkmatter> yeah I know :D
[04:37] <nalioth> [1] darkmatter: unfortunately complete newbies can't find their way here, so you must not be one
[04:38] <[1] darkmatter> I said I was new to linux, not to the internet :p
[04:38] <[1] darkmatter> anyway...so I'm totally new, I installed a dual-boot winxp/kubuntu today...but I can't get any internet from kubuntu, I'm in xp right now
[04:39] <[1] darkmatter> during the install, I just installed the same IP, gateway, name servers etc. as the tcp/ip settings in winXp
[04:40] <apokryphos> how do you connect to the Internet?
[04:40] <[1] darkmatter> and when I try to fool around with the network settings thingy, I find that the settings for the ethernet card are disabled. the window says I should click "Administrator Mode", but I do so, and I input my password, but afterthat it's still disabled
[04:40] <[1] darkmatter> I have a DSL connection
[04:40] <apokryphos> router?
[04:40] <[1] darkmatter> this machine connects directly to the modem thingy my DSL provider gave me
[04:41] <[1] darkmatter> lol oh well, tnx anyway :D
[04:41] <trappist> [1] darkmatter: once you enter your password you should be able to configure your network device.  you're sure you entered the correct password?
[04:42] <[1] darkmatter> yeap, it's the same password as the login one right?
[04:42] <trappist> and using the same settings winxp uses should work
[04:42] <trappist> yes
[04:42] <[1] darkmatter> I'm sure it's correct...and I tried it several times
[04:42] <trappist> you get your ip via dhcp, or it's static?
[04:42] <[1] darkmatter> static
[04:42] <trappist> well you could do it manually
[04:42] <[1] darkmatter> I don't really know what DHCP is :p
[04:43] <[1] darkmatter> I should read up on this stuff
[04:43] <trappist> sudo ifconfig eth0 <ip>
[04:43] <trappist> sudo route add default gw <default gateway ip>
[04:43] <trappist> add "nameserver <nameserver ip>" to /etc/resolv.conf
[04:43] <trappist> and you should be up
[04:44] <[1] darkmatter> thanks, I'll try it later :D
[04:44] <trappist> long-term of course we want the kde interface to work, but if you can get online in linux it'll be easier for us to help you from there
[04:44] <[1] darkmatter> although the settings should be already the same ones as xp...maybe I missed a digit or something
[04:45] <trappist> to check, run ifconfig to see your ip, route -n to see your default gateway, and cat /etc/resolv.conf to see your nameserver(s)
[04:45] <[1] darkmatter> thanks...I'll print this out for later...can't reboot to kubuntu for a while as I'm waiting on some downloads :D
[04:45] <[1] darkmatter> thanks a lot :D
[04:45] <trappist> np
[04:46] <Blippe> what is cat short for?
[04:46] <trappist> concatenate
[04:46] <Blippe> I think i need a lexicon...
[04:47] <jorik> or append
[04:48] <trappist> cat isn't short for append :)
[04:48] <trappist> concatenate is probably in the top 10 best words ever
[04:52] <Blippe> so about my xorg problem, is it just my setup, or have others reported it?
[04:53] <trappist> Blippe: well I get the same behavior running dual-head with two instances of kde - you're running two heavy, arguably bloated desktops when you run a gnome app in kde
[04:54] <Blippe> i see...
[04:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Blippe about cli
[04:55] <Blippe> lovely advace!
[04:55] <Blippe> advice
[05:06] <dices> hello everyone, anyone knows how to install kiosktool in kubuntu ?
[05:07] <Elsan_> How does OSS-ALSA emulation work? Can I hear multiple sounds including from an OSS app?
[05:07] <Riddell> dices: sudo apt-get install kiosktool
[05:08] <Riddell> dices: it also needs a root password set
[05:08] <Riddell> Elsan_: alsa drivers have an OSS compatibility layer
[05:09] <Riddell> Elsan_: it depends on the driver if it can accept multiple inputs
[05:09] <Elsan_> Riddell: I configured my computer ot hear multiple sounds, I can watch a movie with Kaffeine and listen to music with AmaroK...
[05:10] <dices> Riddell: does that work if i am installing kubuntu from ubuntu ?
[05:10] <Elsan_> Skype, Flashplayer and my NES/SNES emulators use OSS so I can't listen to music at the same time
[05:10] <Riddell> dices: yes, but you need to enable universe
[05:10] <ninnghizidha> How can i get Flash working in Konqueror 3.5?
[05:13] <ninnghizidha> it works in firefox, but not in konqueor...
[05:13] <Elsan_> ninnghizidha: Do you have firefox installed? If so you can install flashplayer-mozilla
[05:13] <Elsan_> Go in Konqueror's configuration menu... (I don't what it is in English)
[05:14] <Elsan_> Go to External Modules(dunno what it is in english)
[05:14] <Elsan_> Do you use Firefox1.0 or your own 1.5?
[05:15] <ninnghizidha> firefox 1.0x
[05:15] <ninnghizidha> the one that came with ubuntu
[05:15] <Elsan_> Ok
[05:15] <Elsan_> you should see a small list at the bottom
[05:16] <Elsan_> I move /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins at the top
[05:16] <Elsan_> Then click the "Search for plugins" button
[05:16] <dices> Riddell: universe enabled and it cant find kiosktool, maybe is in backports ? where i can find backports url
[05:17] <Riddell> dices: it's definatly in universe, do an apt-get update
[05:17] <Elsan_> Ok. Good. :)
[05:18] <ninnghizidha> thanks a lot, fellow :-D
[05:18] <Elsan_> I can see my Kaffeine, Adobe Acrobat, Flash and Open Office plugins
[05:18] <Elsan_> No prob
[05:18] <Elsan_> It should work without rebooting
[05:18] <Elsan_> Unlike another OS...
[05:19] <ninnghizidha> ... thats true ... but whats about sound? does it have the same troubles as the firefox-plugin? O_o
[05:19] <Elsan_> Yes, it uses OSS
[05:19] <Elsan_> Flash is outdated
[05:19] <Elsan_> :(
[05:19] <ninnghizidha> ah .. sounds .. thats an endless theme in linux ... :-(
[05:19] <Elsan_> Like Skype is
[05:19] <Elsan_> They made Linux versions so people would shut up but they didn't update it
[05:20] <ninnghizidha> i know .. i know ...
[05:20] <nlindblad> hello
[05:20] <Elsan_> Hi
[05:21] <nlindblad> is Kubuntu a totally different flavour or is it simply Ubuntu with KDE?
[05:21] <ninnghizidha> ... but i got two soundcards .. would be nice to tell linux "hey! Ubuntu-Buddy! use the build-in-soundcards for Skype ... you can even use OSS on this device if you cant resist!"
[05:21] <jpatrick> nlindblad: Just Ubuntu-base + KDE
[05:21] <ninnghizidha> ists a vanilla-flavoured Ubuntu
[05:21] <nlindblad> jpatrick: how's the language support in KDE these days?
[05:22] <jpatrick> nlindblad: excellent
[05:22] <nlindblad> jpatrick: even for Swedish?
[05:22] <jpatrick> Yes
[05:22] <jpatrick> that's the point of KDE-i18n
[05:22] <nlindblad> more than excellent then
[05:22] <Elsan_> ninnghizidha: Write it yourself ;) I think you can change the device on Skype. I'd add another sound card but I got a laptop and my parent's desktop is running the other OS.
[05:22] <nlindblad> I know, but it lacks in some areas even with KDE-i18n
[05:23] <ninnghizidha> ah .. skype is far to propitary to use ....
[05:23] <Elsan_> nlindblad: Everything works perfectly in French, all apps I download are automatically in french
[05:23] <nlindblad> Elsan_: okey
[05:23] <ninnghizidha> thats really nice in linux, the internationalism ...
[05:23] <nlindblad> but French is a way bigger language than Swedish
[05:24] <Elsan_> ninnghizidha: Yeah, but like MSN(or soon Windows Live Messenger), everyone uses it and most people just know how to do a few things and they wouldn't like to relearn.
[05:24] <Elsan_> I don't have to buy another version to change my language :)
[05:24] <ninnghizidha> thats true too :-D
[05:26] <Elsan_> Phew. I was scared I got the dreaded KDE freeze for a second...
[05:28] <nlindblad> so there's no difference at all in downloading the Kubuntu CD for instalation and performing a Ubuntu server-installation and typing apt-get install kde afterwards?
[05:28] <jpatrick> typing: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:28] <nlindblad> right
[05:28] <nlindblad> no need to download and burn a CD then
[05:29] <Elsan_> Yep!
[05:29] <Elsan_> That's how you can also install Xubuntu
[05:29] <nlindblad> XFCE4 is not for me
[05:29] <nlindblad> just can't explain it, don't like it
[05:30] <Elsan_> I prefer KDE and GNOME but if I ever program an app for Linux, I'll test it with a XFCE virtual machine because it's lighter
[05:31] <nlindblad> but Kubuntu _is_ Ubuntu?
[05:31] <nlindblad> they share the same base
[05:32] <Elsan_> They share the base
[05:32] <Elsan_> Which is a very good base
[05:32] <nlindblad> indeed
[05:32] <nlindblad> but I like the "just works" approach Ubuntu gives me from the core and up
[05:33] <Elsan_> I'd just have to see if the new packaging system "conary" is better
[05:33] <nlindblad> only thing I would want to change was KDE instead of GNOME
[05:33] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:33] <nlindblad> hi slow-motion
[05:33] <ninnghizidha> gr dich.
[05:33] <dices> Riddell: thx it was messed up file
[05:33] <slow-motion> hi nlindblad
[05:34] <Elsan_> ninnghizidha: You can stop all apps that play sound and maybe restart the sound server then restart flashplayer. It's as fun as that :)
[05:34] <ejofee_> in kde / kcontrol / appearance and themes / [desktop's]  background: when i press the "get new wallpapers" [from the internet] , a window *immediately* pops up on which is written "empty page" (so it won't download any wallpaper). can anybody please help me?
[05:34] <ninnghizidha> how to restart the soundserver?
[05:35] <Elsan_> No idea but I doubt you will need to do it
[05:35] <Elsan_> Maybe "killall alsa; alsa" or something similar but I DO NOT GUARANTEE IT!!
[05:35] <ninnghizidha> i got it working at my girlfriend today ... without restarting (like on the other OS)
[05:36] <ninnghizidha> ... but it seems, that Kubuntu doesnt use ESD ... am i right? it uses alsa ...
[05:36] <Elsan_> ejofee: I get the same thing then it downloads in a Konqueror-style download window the pages
[05:36] <Elsan_> It uses arts
[05:36] <Elsan_> I use alsa
[05:36] <Elsan_> (I just read up on it for OSS :))
[05:37] <ninnghizidha> arts sounds really bad ...
[05:37] <ninnghizidha> i hope i dont use arts .. that would explain the low latency of my sound
[05:37] <ninnghizidha> (i guess)
[05:38] <Elsan_> I don't know, It works and I'm all happy, I use alsa with multiple sound outputs
[05:40] <Elsan_> And I can test my sound in a 2 clicks, much better than gnome
[05:40] <crystufer> Hey all.
[05:40] <ninnghizidha> may i ask what the content of your /etc/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefoxrc is?
[05:41] <Elsan_> # which /dev/dsp wrapper to use
[05:41] <Elsan_> FIREFOX_DSP="auto"
[05:41] <crystufer> # which /dev/dsp wrapper to use
[05:41] <crystufer> FIREFOX_DSP="auto"
[05:41] <ninnghizidha> thanks for looking :-)
[05:41] <crystufer> np
[05:42] <Elsan_> you can install the package alsa-oss and start with "aoss *app*"
[05:42] <Elsan_> np I just copied the address in Konqueror, works so well :)
[05:42] <ninnghizidha> na .. thats gimped ...
[05:42] <ninnghizidha> i willg et it working ... one day :-D
[05:42] <crystufer> So can anyone help me set up this stupid printer?
[05:42] <crystufer> It used to work, but now it won't.
[05:43] <ninnghizidha> like mine ...
[05:43] <ninnghizidha> sound finally ... ^^
[05:43] <ninnghizidha> :-D
[05:43] <Elsan_> Good :D
[05:43] <Elsan_> crystufer: It's directly on the compuer or in a network?
[05:44] <ninnghizidha> ... now i can hate AND use flash at the same time!
[05:44] <crystufer> Directly on the computer, but I'm using cupsd anyways.
[05:44] <crystufer> yay ninnghizidha!
[05:45] <Elsan_> crystufer: Can't hel you much with this, I couldn't do more than check the options...
[05:46] <crystufer> Elsan_: That's something. I think I've done it though. It just seems like there should be something I'm doing that I'm not.
[05:46] <Elsan_> Ok
[05:46] <crystufer> Could I use a different daemon to handle it?
[05:47] <crystufer> See if it's a cups thing?
[05:48] <Elsan_> Maybe, my printer is on a Win comp on the network so I got no problem
[05:48] <crystufer> Actually, I just got an error message saying connection refused.
[05:48] <crystufer> Maybe I screwed up the permissions?
[05:48] <Elsan_> you should be in superuser mode
[05:49] <Elsan_> there's a mall  button at the bottom
[05:49] <crystufer> Yeah, I'm in administrator mode.
[05:49] <Elsan_> or you can use "sudo kcontrol"
[05:49] <Elsan_> But it may do some errors(did one on my splash screen)
[05:53] <crystufer> Error: connection refused
[05:57] <crystufer> How do I make something world readable?
[05:58] <tech9iner> aye me new mates.. ;]  moin 2 all..
[05:59] <tech9iner> just loaded up ubuntu 5.0.4 then upgraded via apt-get to kubuntu
[05:59] <crystufer> nm
[05:59] <crystufer> Morning.
[05:59] <tech9iner> on old Pll 366 panasonic toughbook.. with integrated sound of course..
[06:00] <tech9iner> but upon bootup/login im being told 'sound server informational message: error while initializing the sound driver: device: default cant be opened for playback (on such device) the sound server will continue suing the null output device..
[06:00] <nlindblad> tech9iner: a perfect chance for you to learn how to write module-based drivers for the Linux kernel
[06:01] <tech9iner> ooops.. on/NO such device.. mea culpa ;]
[06:02] <nlindblad> :D
[06:02] <tech9iner> any clues wtf to start troubleshooting me new mates please.. thanks
[06:02] <nlindblad> tech9iner: well, I'd check what it is for a card :D
[06:02] <nlindblad> lspci
[06:02] <tech9iner> shrooms?.. there are mushrooms in here.. i like kubuntu already!! roflf
[06:03] <tech9iner> ohyea.. been bout yr since lspci use.. thanks nlindblad ;] ]
[06:03] <crystufer> tech9iner: You still having that sound issue?
[06:03] <crystufer> make sure your user is part of the audio group
[06:03] <tech9iner> still?.. lol.. this one since last evening.. aye crystufer lol
[06:04] <crystufer> Kinda basic, but it fucked me up for a while.
[06:04] <crystufer> Also, I had my sound card disabled in the bios.
[06:04] <crystufer> <- dense
[06:05] <tech9iner> hmmm.. makes sense.. aside from the bit n da middle bout 'whose brite idea was it to NOT default user assign audio' ?.. lol
[06:05] <crystufer> My idea. I never made a new user before.
[06:05] <crystufer> Oh, not my default.
[06:06] <tech9iner> yamaha YMF-744B twould seem nlindblad
[06:06] <crystufer> That messed me up, too. My admin acount still had it.
[06:06] <nlindblad> tech9iner: any idea if it tries to use OSS or ALSA?
[06:06] <tech9iner> admin acct?.. on ubuntu 'no root' installs?.. hmmm..
[06:06] <crystufer> why not try both?
[06:07] <crystufer> admin acct, because I only wanted my main user to have admin abilities.
[06:07] <tech9iner> i tried choosing alsa via control ctr nlindblad .. but no change.. where to confirm 4 you please chum?
[06:07] <crystufer> The others were family users.
[06:07] <nlindblad> tech9iner: I have some bad news :(
[06:07] <tech9iner> yepperz.. bit o learning  curve here.. non root based os..
[06:08] <crystufer> Nah, just sudo su and you're in business.
[06:08] <tech9iner> pretty used to 'su -' admin calls here.. but my main os on this pc is still fc4/suse10.. kubuntu is for ebay lappys
[06:08] <crystufer> besides, if you wanna, you can enable root login through the graphical logggy inny thingy.
[06:09] <tech9iner> bad news nlindblad ?.. g r e a t .. hehe
[06:09] <nlindblad> tech9iner: "1.10 What cards will NOT be supported by ALSA? Why not?"
[06:09] <nlindblad> "Yamaha YMF744B"
[06:09] <nlindblad> among them
[06:09] <crystufer> ouch.
[06:10] <crystufer> Looks like oss for you or esd.
[06:10] <nlindblad> but the _new_ black list doesn't mention them
[06:10] <tech9iner> hahaha.. spoken like a true n faithful 'anti-geek' lol.. '''you can enable root login through the graphical logggy inny thingy.'''  jolly good laff guv
[06:10] <nlindblad> and that info is from 1999
[06:10] <nlindblad> so I wouldn't give up
[06:11] <nlindblad> ALSA had loads of problems with different vendors back then
[06:11] <tech9iner> so just bit o encouragement thrown n 4 good measure eh nlindblad heh
[06:11] <crystufer> tech9iner: I'm tired. Gimme a break. Through the graphical login manager I guess you would call it.
[06:12] <nlindblad> tech9iner: it's supported
[06:12] <nlindblad> tech9iner: lsmod
[06:12] <crystufer> Anyways, there is a bit in kcontrol for "convenience" or some garbage like that to enable root login at the prompt.
[06:12] <nlindblad> tech9iner: look for a module named snd-ymfpci
[06:13] <nlindblad> if you don't have it you'll need to build it
[06:13] <nlindblad> piece of cake
[06:13] <crystufer> I kinda want a text mode login. Gives newbs a sense of despair. The comes the kde and the wave of relief.
[06:13] <tech9iner> hmm.. head scratchn bit noted here via your lspci call nlindblad .. noticing highly similar '0000:00:0a.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c478 (rev 03).. AND??.. 0000:00:0a.1 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c478 (rev 03)' ??
[06:13] <nlindblad> crystufer: switch runlevel
[06:14] <gangan963> gg@linux:~$ sudo qtparted
[06:14] <gangan963> Error: Filesystem was not cleanly unmounted!  You should e2fsck.  Modifying an unclean filesystem could cause severe corruption.
[06:14] <gangan963> Could somebody hle me... what does this mean I try to mound a second HDD:
[06:14] <nlindblad> tech9iner: but you said Yamaha YMF744B?
[06:14] <tech9iner> my my.. such warm an soft hands ye have whilst changing me overfull noob diapers nlindblad ;] ]
[06:14] <slow-motion> bbl
[06:14] <tech9iner> yamaha YMF-744B
[06:14] <nlindblad> gangan963: just do a fsck on it
[06:15] <gangan963> what means on it?
[06:15] <nlindblad> it checks the filesystem for errors
[06:15] <nlindblad> bad blocks, etc.
[06:15] <gangan963> it is a /dev/hdc1 ...thats what I could tell you...
[06:15] <crystufer> sudo fsck /dev/hdc1
[06:15] <gangan963> thanx
[06:15] <crystufer> I think.
[06:15] <melonipoika> hi guys, i am facing a really strange problem with my wireless, and now i'm totally lost. I hope you can help me. I cannot make my ad-hoc connection work anymore, it is working for few minutes, nad then disconnecting
[06:15] <crystufer> Is that right?
[06:16] <nlindblad> crystufer: fsck is a general controller to activate the right fsck for the filesystem given
[06:16] <nlindblad> fsck should call for e2fsck
[06:16] <tech9iner> snd_ymfpci             56768  0
[06:16] <tech9iner> nlindblad: aye.. its there..
[06:16] <nlindblad> tech9iner: then it's loaded
[06:16] <nlindblad> should work
[06:16] <melonipoika> before it was working pretty well, i had configured it using dhcp, and everything was fine
[06:16] <tech9iner> hmmm...
[06:16] <nlindblad> might just be your sound daemon being a bloody cunt then
[06:16] <tech9iner> maybe configs somewhere?
[06:16] <nlindblad> yeah
[06:16] <crystufer> so then i did or did not get that command right
[06:16] <crystufer> ?
[06:17] <nlindblad> crystufer: you got it right
[06:17] <crystufer> K.
[06:17] <nlindblad> melonipoika: what distance to the AP?
[06:17] <tech9iner> best config tool to start with perhaps nlindblad please?
[06:17] <crystufer> e2fsck would be the specific command that fsck will just assume since it's ext2 right?
[06:17] <tech9iner> for sound that be
[06:17] <melonipoika> few meters, no more than 3, it is another laptop, i'm not using AP
[06:17] <nlindblad> melonipoika: signal peaks and connection losses is common if you have a WLAN
[06:18] <melonipoika> at the moment i'm using the same computer and everything, but runnig fedora
[06:18] <nlindblad> melonipoika: what cards?
[06:18] <nlindblad> vendors/models?
[06:18] <melonipoika> d-link and nokia
[06:18] <nlindblad> tech9iner: alsamixer
[06:18] <nlindblad> tech9iner: and see what if detects
[06:18] <tech9iner> ahh.. tanx chap..
[06:18] <nlindblad> *it
[06:18] <nlindblad> melonipoika: are you attempting to use WPA/WEP?
[06:19] <melonipoika> nlindblad, i don't think this is the problem, it has been working pretty well before, and also in fedora and winxp...
[06:19] <nlindblad> or just plain unencrypted signals
[06:19] <melonipoika> no, it is open
[06:19] <nlindblad> melonipoika: weird then
[06:19] <crystufer> How do I check out what is at the end of /dev/lp?
[06:19] <melonipoika> i would like, but it is not possible, i'm using the second pc as internet gateway
[06:19] <tech9iner> alsamixer   alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device nlindblad ?.. still scratchn me bloody 4head here ;]
[06:19] <melonipoika> it is connected to the modem
[06:20] <nlindblad> crystufer: how do you mean?
[06:20] <melonipoika> so no another way than rireless (no more net cards or router)
[06:20] <melonipoika> is there any good tool to configure the network?
[06:20] <nlindblad> don't know for KDE
[06:20] <melonipoika> i have used the one in ubuntu, but it is not too completed
[06:20] <crystufer> Is there a way to check if anything is connected to /dev/lp? that is my printer port, right?
[06:20] <nlindblad> but I'm sure there is
[06:21] <nlindblad> melonipoika: kde-apps.org
[06:21] <melonipoika> and for gnome? i have both deskstops
[06:21] <melonipoika> ok, thanks
[06:21] <nlindblad> melonipoika: the default manager there is pretty simple but does the job
[06:22] <melonipoika> it doesn't let me choose the wireless mode (Ad-hoc, managed, etc)
[06:22] <melonipoika> neither the channel, bitrate...
[06:22] <nlindblad> melonipoika: hmm
[06:23] <nlindblad> melonipoika: I'd try airsnort to see if it detects the other computer
[06:23] <melonipoika> i had used kwifimanager for that, but for some reason, i had to do it averytime i started the computer
[06:23] <melonipoika> ah, god
[06:23] <melonipoika> good
[06:23] <melonipoika> i will try
[06:24] <gangan963> hellou, I have a HDD which I want make activ / mount ... the status is HIDDEN, so I cant do  "sudo mount ....."  can sombedoy help me?  ...sorry..linux-beginner :(
[06:24] <melonipoika> nlindblad, thanks for your help
[06:24] <tech9iner> any dire warnings bout taking my kubuntu integrated sound failure issues over to #ubuntu mates ?
[06:24] <gangan963> i format the HDD with qtparted to fat32
[06:25] <nlindblad> gangan963: HIDDEN?
[06:25] <crystufer> Nah.
[06:25] <crystufer> You still have gnome, right?
[06:25] <tech9iner> me crystufer ?
[06:25] <crystufer> Yeah.
[06:25] <gangan963> qtparted says Status: hidden
[06:25] <gangan963> nlindblad: qtparted says Status: hidden
[06:26] <tech9iner> spose i do.. yes.. just added kde.. and logged into kde environs.. but still gnome onboard too
[06:26] <crystufer> make sure your gnome bits are updated so that if they make reference to a menu in gnome you have it. Other than that, should be fine.
[06:26] <nlindblad> gangan963: weird
[06:26] <tech9iner> as in getting support in #ubuntu crystufer ?
[06:26] <tech9iner> arg mea culpa crystufer
[06:27] <tech9iner> didnt read ur last rite thanks chum
[06:27] <tech9iner> ;]
[06:27] <crystufer> arg mea culpa? Isn't that italian?
[06:27] <crystufer> Like for eat my ass?
[06:27] <tech9iner> rofl.. no crystufer .. mea culpa is my fault is all mate
[06:28] <gangan963> nlindblad: sorry?weird?
[06:28] <tech9iner> snobby way of saying my bad crystufer lol
[06:28] <crystufer> Kay.
[06:28] <tech9iner> an stop calling me Kay ;] ]
[06:28] <crystufer> Okay.
[06:28] <nlindblad> gangan963: never heard of a hidden status for partitions
[06:28] <crystufer> :p
[06:28] <tech9iner> ;D
[06:28] <crystufer>  /dev/.hda5
[06:28] <crystufer> hehe.
[06:33] <nlindblad> well
[06:33] <nlindblad> I'm gonna install Ubuntu now
[06:33] <nlindblad> see you guys in ~ 15 mintues
[06:33] <nlindblad> *minutes
[06:34] <crystufer> Oh, shite.
[06:34] <crystufer> I can't get this working.
[06:34] <crystufer> It worked when I started.
[06:34] <crystufer> I think I need to just re-install the system.
[07:01] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> !java-debs
[07:01] <ubotu> Cry_Mac_Ubuntu: What?
[07:01] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> !java
[07:01] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:01] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> !javadebs
[07:01] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[07:02] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> !seveas
[07:02] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:03] <Flixor-> hi everybody, i was wondering if its possible to limit bandwitch usesages for some users on my computer
[07:03] <Flixor-> like know two people are working on my computer one behind and me from another pc through nxclient
[07:05] <graft> err... has anyone ever gotten translucency working with an ATI Radeon card?
[07:06] <mase> !firefox
[07:07] <mase> !firefox1.5
[07:07] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:20] <nlindblad> back
[07:23] <gangan963> need Help... my second HDD will not mnt. can somenone help me?
[07:24] <gangan963> I am new with linux... WIKI and www didn't help
[07:24] <ProtectYaNeck> where in Kubuntu can I format a drive to FAT32?
[07:25] <gangan963> this I can answer you!  install the app qtparted ....its like Partiotionmagic in Windows
[07:26] <nlindblad> gangan963: what does it say when you run the mount command?
[07:27] <gangan963> nlindblad:  dev/hdc1 didn't exist
[07:29] <nlindblad> gangan963: reboot, the kernel don't read the new partition table otherwise
[07:29] <nlindblad> *doesn't
[07:29] <gangan963> just reboot the system?
[07:29] <nlindblad> gangan963: partitioning during run is not recommended and it won't find it most times
[07:29] <nlindblad> yeah
[07:29] <nlindblad> then you'll have /dev/hdc1
[07:29] <gangan963> ok.. thanx
[07:33] <mase> !tcl
[07:33] <ubotu> I don't know, mase
[07:33] <mase> whats the tcl package name for apt-get ?
[07:34] <nalioth> !info tcl
[07:34] <nlindblad> apt-cache search
[07:34] <nlindblad> is also good
[07:34] <nalioth> so it is
[07:34] <nalioth> the bot needs work
[07:34] <mase> just did that :p
[07:34] <mase> apparently i have tcl8.4
[07:35] <mase> but the eggdrop doesnt compile
[07:35] <mase> says i dont have tcl installed
[07:37] <JohnFlux> can i install i386 packages on my amd64 system?
[07:37] <nlindblad> yes
[07:37] <nalioth> mase: you need tcl*-dev
[07:37] <nlindblad> 32-bit compability
[07:37] <nlindblad> JohnFlux: or it really depends
[07:37] <mase> ok thanks nalioth
[07:37] <nlindblad> JohnFlux: if it's native 64-bit (which I doubt) you can't
[07:37] <nalioth> mase: anytime you compile, and it says "you need x ver 1" you need 'x ver 1 -dev"
[07:38] <mase> k thx
[07:38] <mase> youre right..
[07:38] <mase> that was it
[07:43] <gangan963> nblindblad: rebooted... but  still a problem with my HDD
[07:43] <poningru> JohnFlux: what kind of kubuntu did you install? 32bit? or 64bit?
[07:44] <JohnFlux> poningru: 64
[07:45] <poningru> oh then no
[07:45] <JohnFlux> i can't install a i386 package?
[07:45] <gangan963> nlindblad: rebooted... but  still a problem with my HDD
[07:47] <nlindblad> gangan963: still?
[07:47] <nlindblad> gangan963: what does fdisk -l /dev/hdc tell you?
[07:48] <nlindblad> JohnFlux: you apperantly did a "native" 64-bit installation, that breaks all compability with 32-bit applications
[07:48] <JohnFlux> nlindblad: blah
[07:49] <gangan963> nlindblad:  could not open
[07:49] <nlindblad> JohnFlux: although, there is a way
[07:50] <gangan963> nlindblad:  could not open /dev/hdc
[07:50] <nlindblad> gangan963: dmesg|grep '/dev/hdc'
[07:51] <gangan963> nlindblad:  sorry?  what does this mean?
[07:54] <nlindblad> gangan963: dmesg is the output your kernel makes
[07:54] <nlindblad> gangan963: grep 'something' is used to find 'something' in the text
[07:54] <nlindblad> | means that the commands are piping each other
[07:54] <nlindblad> that means they run at the same time in pipes and effect each others results
[07:55] <nlindblad> so dmesg|grep '/dev/hdc' will return all text the kernel mentioned that contains /dev/hdc
[07:55] <Tm_T> ubotu: how are you?
[07:55] <ubotu> just great, Tm_T
[07:55] <gangan963> nlindblad:  ok.. I did it... and now?
[07:57] <gangan963> nlindblad:  what do you say if I format this HDD with Knoppix-live-cd ...could it be a solution???
[07:58] <nlindblad> gangan963: didn't it output anything at all?
[07:58] <gangan963> nothing!
[07:59] <nlindblad> not good
[07:59] <gangan963> gg@linux:~$ dmesg|grep '/dev/hdc'
[07:59] <gangan963> gg@linux:~$ dmesg|grep /dev/hdc
[07:59] <gangan963> gg@linux:~$
[08:00] <gangan963> nlindblad: was this the right command? ..or should I do it with sudo???
[08:01] <nlindblad> unless you have a very security enchanced machine dmesg works for all users
[08:01] <gangan963> nlindblad: just installed normal kubuntu ...beginner, so no security
[08:01] <nlindblad> but of course, if it doesn't mention it might just mean it didn't bother doing anything with it
[08:02] <nlindblad> but still weird fdisk can't open it
[08:02] <gangan963> weird?
[08:02] <nlindblad> yeah
[08:02] <nlindblad> long time since I use Ubuntu though
[08:02] <gangan963> is "weird fdisk" a command?
[08:02] <jordi_> hello, during kubuntu install on an amd64 i got the errormsg "the ext2 filesystem has a rather strange layout", i searched the forum but really found nothing to solve this problem
[08:02] <nlindblad> might be a normal case that it doesn't
[08:03] <nlindblad> gangan963: I'd go for the "format with Knoppix" solution
[08:03] <gangan963> would it hel to format the disk with a live-cd???
[08:03] <gangan963> ok...
[08:03] <gangan963> thanx for help
[08:03] <nlindblad> didn't help you :D
[08:03] <nlindblad> just tried
[08:21] <globe> how do I set the active (boot) partition on my hd manually (from fdisk?)?
[08:26] <nxv_> hi, how do i have to reinstall locales?
[08:27] <nlindblad> globe: cfdisk is more user-friendly
[08:28] <globe> nlindblad: okay...  is that term based or X?
[08:28] <nlindblad> term
[08:29] <globe> I get the same error as with fdisk: cannot open disk drive.  Do I have to have the HD mounted before I can do stuff like that?
[08:31] <nlindblad> globe: well, it shouldn't have to be mounted
[08:31] <nlindblad> but my guess is that Ubuntu doesn't permit it when you're in a high runlevel (network/GUI)
[08:32] <nlindblad> to perform such tasks you should reboot into single-user mode
[08:32] <globe> well, the problem could also be that I am running a live CD.  I cant boot....a completly unconfigured grub is in the way
[08:33] <nlindblad> globe: the Ubuntu live-cd?
[08:33] <globe> yep
[08:33] <nlindblad> okey
[08:33] <imy> !skim
[08:33] <ubotu> imy: What?
[08:34] <JohnFlux> !scim
[08:34] <ubotu> scim is, like, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Language input. http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/
[08:34] <nlindblad> does the boot-partition really have to be flagged bootable
[08:34] <nlindblad> I've forgotten that sometimes and it has worked
[08:35] <globe> nlindblad well, no.  but that only works if you have < 1 OS installed.  I used to have FC3 installed and I deleted the partition and reformatted for data.
[08:35] <globe> somehow grub remained, but lost all its config data and now it doesnt know where to look for an O/S
[08:36] <JohnFlux> globe: less than 1 OS?
[08:36] <globe> lol.... > 1 OS
[08:36] <globe> :-)
[08:36] <JohnFlux> :)
[08:36] <nlindblad> :-)
[08:40] <globe> does there happen to be a way to tell grub where to look ?  I get a really LIMITED grub command line
[08:41] <dst20> bonsoir a tous
[08:41] <nlindblad> you could set it up from the comand line
[08:41] <Zerlinna> jpatrick: hey there.. thanx for adding my blog to your linklist :-)
[08:41] <nlindblad> globe: root (hd0,0)
[08:42] <dst20> y a t il une personne ki parle fr
[08:42] <nlindblad> globe: setup (hd0)
[08:42] <jpatrick> Zerlinna: no problemo
[08:42] <nlindblad> globe: quit
[08:42] <Zerlinna> jpatrick: and how's it going with your new blog?
[08:42] <globe> Um.... no offense but that all looks like gibberish to me.....
[08:42] <Knowerrors> Is there a setting to make x.org remember monitor settings?  If I turn on my compute with the monitor off, then turn it on later, Im greeted by only one resolution and refresh rate
[08:42] <jpatrick> Zerlinna: still looking for stuff to post
[08:43] <dst20> personne pale francais ici
[08:43] <nlindblad> globe: it tells GRUB that it should install to MBR and the second command actually makes it install
[08:43] <jpatrick> Zerlinna: although I think I've found something
[08:43] <Zerlinna> jpatrick: I'd like to help you but till March I'm very busy at uni...
[08:43] <Zerlinna> jpatrick: may I ask you what you've found? ;)
[08:43] <jpatrick> Zerlinna: I know what mean
[08:43] <globe> nlindblad, oic....so that needs to be done on command line.
[08:44] <globe> I mean grub cmd line
[08:44] <Zerlinna> jpatrick: I need the time maintain my own blog ;)
[08:44] <nlindblad> globe: GRUB command line
[08:44] <nlindblad> globe: yeah
[08:44] <jpatrick> Zerlinna: I have a ton of school work
[08:44] <nlindblad> globe: if it's the same command line you get when you type in 'grub' on a healthy system
[08:44] <globe> nlindblad.  it appears to be...the same preamble anyways
[08:45] <Zerlinna> jpatrick: me too.. and I joined the marketingteam yesterday ;)
[08:45] <nlindblad> globe: okey
[08:45] <Zerlinna> jpatrick: they have some interesting projects there.. maybe you should join in, too (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam)
[08:45] <jpatrick> Zerlinna: I could of joined the Community Council if it hadn't been for school
[08:46] <jpatrick> today
[08:46] <Zerlinna> jpatrick: wow :)
[08:46] <Zerlinna> jpatrick: I'm just an ordinary user :)
[08:46] <jpatrick> Zerlinna: but since i had school I arrived too late
[08:47] <Zerlinna> jpatrick: do you meet on irc?
[08:47] <jpatrick> yep
[08:47] <Zerlinna> jpatrick: next time you'll make it, sure
[08:47] <Zerlinna> jpatrick: but sure there's somebody who'll send to the logfile
[08:48] <dst20> PEUX T ON M AIDER SVP
[08:48] <jpatrick> Zerlinna: that's what someone said
[08:49] <jpatrick> just gotta wait two weeks
[08:49] <dst20> Y A T IL UN SEVEUR EN FRANCAIS
[08:50] <jpatrick> raphink: poke
[08:50] <Elsan_> Canal #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr
[08:50] <jpatrick> raphink: someone desparate here
[08:50] <stimpy997> Hi everybody!
[08:50] <slow-motion> re
[08:50] <Elsan_> dst20: C'est des canal, #kubuntu-fr est presque vide, t'es mieux avec #ubuntu-fr
[08:50] <dst20> MERCI ELSAN
[08:51] <jpatrick> ok... caps...
[08:51] <Elsan_> dst20: Enlve les CAPS
[08:51] <claudiu> hello, i have a problem installing gstreamer - it is freezing
[08:51] <dst20>  dsl
[08:51] <stimpy997> On my thinkpad, acpi doesn't work as it should
[08:51] <Elsan_> He wanted a french server, I gave him the channels, he won't bother npw :p
[08:51] <jpatrick> I know :P
[08:55] <iantec> any one here folding?
[08:55] <JohnFlux> !scim
[08:55] <ubotu> well, scim is Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Language input. http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/
[08:55] <JohnFlux> iantec: folding?
[08:56] <JohnFlux> what's dapper?
[08:56] <JohnFlux> the release after breezy?
[08:56] <JohnFlux> !dapper
[08:56] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[08:56] <JohnFlux> ah
[08:57] <iantec> folding at home....http://folding.stanford.edu/  .....because im a newbi at linux....and i tried ubuntu since i cant make suse work on my system.... im fresh from windows and i ahve been folding ever since...
[08:58] <iantec> i cant install it though because i have no idea how to install softwares on ubuntu aside from the ones you can get sfrom synaptic
[09:00] <JohnFlux> iantec: go to the download page and get the console one and follow the instructions
[09:01] <iantec> ....i tried....it wont work...the reason i switched form suse to ubuntu is i cant make folding at home working...as a service just like windows....i really want to migrate,....but folding for me is a must...
[09:01] <claudiu> what is the use of gstreamer on kubuntu ?
[09:02] <jpatrick> claudiu: music?
[09:02] <robotgeek> claudiu: gstreamer is the backend, independant of kde/gnome etc
[09:03] <claudiu> jpatrick: ok, can i use it for notifications ?
[09:03] <JohnFlux> iantec: why doesn't it work
[09:03] <iantec> error message shows up
[09:03] <JohnFlux> .......
[09:04] <akshay> root@aqua-h:/home/akshay# apt-get update
[09:04] <akshay> 44% [Connecting to in.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]
[09:04] <akshay> can any one help me in this
[09:06] <akshay> 44% [Connecting to in.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]
[09:06] <Knowerrors> I have a problem with my monitor, if its turned off while booting, then turned back on, the resolution and refresh rate are terrible and can't be changed, is there a way to fix this besides always having monitor on?
[09:06] <akshay> i was doing #apt-get update but i get this message '44% [Connecting to in.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)] '
[09:08] <akshay> is ther anyone can help me in this please
[09:08] <claudiu> jpatrick: can you help me with that ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6913
[09:10] <vega-> how can i manage network profiles in kde?
[09:10] <vega-> the default one doesn't seem to be very intuitive...
[09:10] <vega-> pointers to docs on this?
[09:10] <nlindblad> vega-: kde-apps.org
[09:10] <nlindblad> vega-: go look!
[09:11] <jpatrick> claudiu: err
[09:12] <jpatrick> well did dpkg fail?
[09:12] <nlindblad> vega-: (I don't mean it in an angry way, just a tip)
[09:12] <claudiu> jpatrick: i tried to install all the gstreamer plugins with synaptic, but it failed when setting up
[09:12] <jpatrick> odd
[09:13] <vega-> nlindblad: mmkay, thanks :)
[09:13] <claudiu> jpatrick: how can i get out of this  ? i cant use apt-get because of this
[09:14] <iantec> how do i start xchat automatically when i start up?
[09:17] <jpatrick> claudiu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[09:23] <arrinmurr> iantec: open konqueror, go to ~/.kde/Autostart/ , open the right mouse button menu and take Create New -> Link to Application...
[09:23] <nlindblad> damnit, girls are hard
[09:24] <nlindblad> why can't they be as easy as *NIX
[09:24] <vega-> actually this is my problem: http://www.kde-forum.org/post/55697/lastpost.html#post55697
[09:24] <kkathman> well most girls are a bit nicer to snuggle up to than *nix
[09:24] <vega-> can't believe that there is no decent gui for managing network profiles in kde these days
[09:24] <jpatrick> kkathman: you're telling me...
[09:25] <nlindblad> kkathman: really?
[09:25] <kkathman> ohyeah!!
[09:25] <sampan> kkathman  they're working on a "breast" patch for *nix that will remedy that problem.
[09:25] <kkathman> sampan: well try it out for me willya...I'll keep my all-natural interface : )
[09:25] <sampan> lol
[09:25] <jpatrick> kkathman: :'(
[09:26] <sampan> heck, that's how i ended up here
[09:26] <kkathman> cheer up jpatrick  its not the end of the world...trust me...things get better in High School and MUCCCCCCH better in college
[09:26] <sampan> "what's this ubuntu cd do anyway?" *insert cd into drive*  "oooooooooooooooooh! nice!"
[09:26] <kkathman> just remember that these little HS romances arent squat :)
[09:26] <jpatrick> :P
[09:27] <sampan> they're important at the time -- you can learn alot about people and yourself from your hs romances
[09:27] <kkathman> sampan you already dont get out enough my man :)
[09:27] <sampan> lol kkathman i know :/  dratted research keeps me chained to my desk
[09:27] <kkathman> sampan: actually thats true to an extent
[09:27] <iantec> arrinmurr....after that? im in the general tab
[09:27] <sampan> lol
[09:28] <jpatrick> kkathman: oKay
[09:28] <omri1> hello
[09:28] <stimpy997> vega: take a look at netapplet or network manager
[09:28] <kkathman> just remember the computer is your friend....its logical...women are NOT
[09:28] <nlindblad> true indeed
[09:29] <arrinmurr> iantec, well, insert "xchat" there, and also in applications tab in name and command fields
[09:29] <jpatrick> kkathman: yes,sir
[09:30] <kkathman> anyone in or near St Louis ??
[09:30] <arrinmurr> iantec: and remember to write it in lowercase in the command field. and then you're done. next time you log in, xchat will fire up
[09:30] <vega-> stimpy997: network manager as in the package "network-manager" ?
[09:31] <iantec> what do i have to indicate in the workpath?
[09:31] <arrinmurr> iantec: nothing
[09:31] <kkathman> vega whatcha tryin to do, exactly
[09:32] <iantec> thanks i hope it work s...well im gonna try it now
[09:33] <vega-> kkathman: i want to be able to switch between different network profiles (home wireless/work lan/work wireless)
[09:34] <stimpy997> vega-: yes. it's still a work in progress though. does not work with all NICs yet.
[09:34] <kkathman> ahh... I'd steer you to the kde network settings but its got so many bugs that it breaks things rather than doing things right
[09:34] <stimpy997> netapplet is another possibility
[09:34] <robotgeek> vega-: try using network-manager
[09:35] <vega-> kkathman: tried that already
[09:35] <vega-> i'll try network-manager and netapplet next
[09:35] <kkathman> vega - yah its pretty bad
[09:35] <claudiu> kkathman: how can i solve this one ? apt-get says i must do dpkg --reconfigure -a, and dpkg just hangs on forever
[09:35] <claudiu> kkathman: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6913
[09:35] <jpatrick> claudiu: it takes a while to unpack those packaegs
[09:35] <kkathman> claudiu:  Im not sure what you are trying to do
[09:35] <omri1> I've installed recently Kubuntu 5.10 and already love it very much! however I do have a small problem that I'm not sure how to address, I'm not even sure how to describe: in many windows where there are multiple lines some appear with dark background, that severly influences my ability to read them. It happens in Koepete, for example, KWrite, in the Disk&Filesystem dialog, and many other places. When I just installed Kubuntu it didn't happen,
[09:36] <kkathman> ahh jpatrick can help you :)
[09:36] <omri1> I've played with many display settings without luck...
[09:36] <claudiu> jpatrick: i think there is a problem some where
[09:36] <jpatrick> It always took a while here
[09:37] <kkathman> omri1: the only settings for that are in the Appearance area of systemsettings through the k-menu