[01:13] <Amaranth> hey, willowng finally made it out of limbo
[01:14] <lucasvo> Amaranth: I'll test it tomorrow
[01:14] <Amaranth> lucasvo: did you see my new tooltips in gallium?
[01:16] <lucasvo>  saved branch: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gallium-dev/gallium/tw--devel
[01:16] <lucasvo> bzr: ERROR: No such file: 'http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gallium-dev/gallium/tw--devel/.bzr/repository/knits/e9/%2543.jpg-20060804035635-3851a2711f2090d7.kndx': (6, "Couldn't resolve host 'bazaar.launchpad.net'")
[01:16] <lucasvo> what was the other location?
[01:17] <Amaranth> oh, i gave up on launchpad
[01:17] <Amaranth> http://dev.realistanew.com/gallium--tw
[01:19] <lucasvo> well, your server's taking me a hell lot of time to merge
[01:20] <Burgundavia> lucasvo: I don't think all that bazaar stuff in LP is very stable yet
[01:21] <lucasvo> done
[01:21] <lucasvo> Burgundavia: I have no problems with it
[01:21] <lucasvo> Amaranth: I like them
[01:22] <lucasvo> Amaranth: however I think you should make some padding
[01:22] <lucasvo> and not only display the full name
[01:22] <Amaranth> well, yeah
[01:22] <Amaranth> the hard part is making them appear :)
[01:22] <Amaranth> the code for it is scary
[01:23] <Burgundavia> Amaranth: if I have already pulled down your code via bzr branch, how do I update to the latest?
[01:23] <lucasvo> Burgundavia: did you use branch or pull
[01:23] <Amaranth> Burgundavia: bzr pull
[01:24] <Burgundavia> lucasvo: branch originally
[01:24] <Burgundavia> shiny it is working
[01:24] <Burgundavia> geez this bzr stuff is easy
[01:25] <Amaranth> I stole the fake tooltips code from quod libet, actually
[01:25] <Amaranth> they have some cool code that does a tooltip for elipsized treeview cells
[01:25] <Burgundavia> Amaranth: should this be taking several minutes? I branched a few days ago
[01:26] <Amaranth> i just modified it to work as a real tooltip
[01:26] <Amaranth> Burgundavia: Yeah, bzr is slow.
[01:26] <Amaranth> And I stuffed a bunch of images into the repo.
[01:26] <Burgundavia> right
[01:26] <Burgundavia> is the next thing they are going todo is to make if blazing fast?
[01:27] <lucasvo> 7135: arguments to dbus_connection_send_with_reply_and_block() were incorrect, assertion "connection != NULL" failed in file dbus-connection.c line 2778.
[01:27] <lucasvo> Amaranth: ?
[01:27] <lucasvo> This is normally a bug in some application using the D-BUS library.
[01:27] <lucasvo> 7135: arguments to dbus_connection_send_with_reply_and_block() were incorrect, assertion "connection != NULL" failed in file dbus-connection.c line 2778.
[01:27] <lucasvo> This is normally a bug in some application using the D-BUS library.
[01:27] <Amaranth> lucasvo: *shrug*
[01:27] <Amaranth> I can't figure out why it says that.
[01:27] <Burgundavia> hmm, ctrl-c take a while to take hold
[01:27] <Amaranth> It didn't before, then (with me changing nothing), it does.
[01:27] <lucasvo> Amaranth: that's why: Introspect error: The name com.ubuntu.WillowNG was not provided by any .service files
[01:27] <Amaranth> lucasvo: Nope, it does it even when the proxy is running.
[01:28] <Amaranth> btw, dbus starts the proxy, you either have to restart the computer or force it to start with sudo /etc/dbus-1/event.d/99willowng start
[01:29] <lucasvo> ok, started it.
[01:29] <lucasvo> do you know how to fix it?
[01:30] <Amaranth> nope
[01:30] <Amaranth> those errors just started showing up
[01:30] <lucasvo> so I basically can't run it?
[01:30] <Amaranth> they don't affect it
[01:30] <Amaranth> it still works
[01:30] <lucasvo> Amaranth: no, it doesn't: http://pastebin.ca/117474
[01:31] <Amaranth> even after you started the proxy you get that?
[01:31] <lucasvo> yes
[01:31] <lucasvo>  * Starting content filter: willowng                                                                                [ ok ]
[01:31] <Amaranth> W.T.F.
[01:32] <Amaranth> it doesn't work here either
[01:32] <Amaranth> but it did before, even with those errors
[01:32] <Amaranth> and it worked for ogra too
[01:32] <lucasvo> :P
[01:32] <lucasvo> strange
[01:32] <Amaranth> stupid gnome-vfs
[01:32] <lucasvo> improve it
[01:33] <Amaranth> gnome-vfs uses dbus and threads so every application using gnome-vfs and dbus has to do things to make it not break
[01:33] <Burgundavia> Amaranth: you want a .desktop for your app?
[01:33] <Amaranth> i've got one for willowng
[01:34] <Amaranth> i know how to make them :P
[01:34] <Burgundavia> no, for gallium
[01:34] <Amaranth> ah
[01:34] <Amaranth> what i really need is an icon :)
[01:34] <Burgundavia> right
[01:34] <Amaranth> i know .desktop files inside and out (damn menu spec)
[01:34] <Burgundavia> indeed
[01:36] <lucasvo> I have to sleep
[01:37] <lucasvo> good night
[01:38] <lucasvo> sudo apt-get install ltspfs
[01:38] <lucasvo> try ltspfs!
[01:38] <lucasvo> test it, report bugs.
[01:39] <Amaranth> lucasvo: that's a bug in the dbus python bindings
[01:40] <Amaranth> wait, no it's not, it's coming from gnome-vfs
[01:40] <Amaranth> those errors are, i mean
[01:42] <Amaranth> lucasvo: and the problem with my app is due to not restarting your computer :)
[01:42] <Amaranth> lucasvo: if you call sudo invoke-rc.d dbus reload _then_ call sudo /etc/dbus-1/event.d/99willowng restart it should work
[01:45] <lucasvo> Amaranth: not really: http://pastebin.ca/117493
[01:46] <Amaranth> just restart your computer :P
[01:47] <lucasvo> nah, won't do that
[01:47] <lucasvo> last time I had to reinstall x
[01:47] <Amaranth> sudo killall willowng && sudo rm /var/run/willowng.pid && sudo invoke-rc.d dbus reload && sudo /etc/dbus-1/event.d/99willowng start
[01:48] <Amaranth> if that doesn't work something is wrong with your computer and you really need to restart
[01:48] <lucasvo> finally
[01:48] <Amaranth> That's the "Amaranth Way of Beating Things Into Working"
[01:49] <lucasvo> Amaranth: can't you make it transparent on default?
[01:49] <Amaranth> transparent?
[01:49] <lucasvo> transparent proxy?
[01:49] <Amaranth> Nope.
[01:49] <lucasvo> why not?
[01:49] <Amaranth> http://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-dev doesn't like that :)
[01:50] <lucasvo> well, disable it on default but make an option at least
[01:50] <Amaranth> the little checkbox is going to set debconf and gconf proxy settings then block off port 80 for everyone but the willowng user
[01:50] <lucasvo> oh, ok
[01:50] <Amaranth> originally the little checkbox was going to turn on transparent proxying
[01:50] <Amaranth> i was told no
[01:50] <lucasvo> they don't like it?
[01:51] <Amaranth> it breaks a couple of standards
[01:51] <lucasvo> maybe you could make an additional checkbox
[01:51] <Amaranth> why? setting debconf and gconf settings should make everyone work fine
[01:51] <Amaranth> except lynx and junk
[01:51] <lucasvo> or write at least: by activating this proxy, debconf and gconf get's reconfigured
[01:51] <Amaranth> This is a tool for parents.
[01:52] <Amaranth> They don't even know what debconf and gconf are. :P
[01:52] <lucasvo> yes, then say, It automatically configures your browser.
[01:52] <lucasvo> Amaranth: but they also don't know what a port is
[01:52] <Amaranth> 'Enable Content Filter'
[01:52] <Amaranth> lucasvo: Yeah, ogra asked me to add that for some reason.
[01:53] <lucasvo> well of course it has to be written there!
[01:53] <Amaranth> I'm against geeking it out anymore than that.
[01:53] <lucasvo> yes
[01:53] <lucasvo> you could make an advanced section
[01:53] <lucasvo> where you can even choose which port it should use
[01:54] <Amaranth> nope, that's a config file thing :P
[01:54] <lucasvo> and willowng-config isn't the right gui for it?
[01:54] <Amaranth> nope
[01:54] <lucasvo> why not?
[01:55] <lucasvo> does willlowng support login for unfiltered access?
[01:55] <Amaranth> no
[01:55] <lucasvo> when I activate it, do I have to restart the browser?
[01:55] <Amaranth> the checkbox doesn't do anything
[01:56] <lucasvo> but?
[01:56] <Amaranth> the entire program is about  1 1/2 months old and half of that was packaging
[01:56] <Amaranth> lots of stuff doesn't do anything :P
[01:56] <lucasvo> oh
[01:57] <Amaranth> login for unfiltered access is a good idea
[01:57] <Amaranth> anyone in the 'admin' group should be able to do that
[02:36] <Burgundavia> Amaranth: what is the bzr address of willow-ng?
[02:36] <Amaranth> http://dev.realistanew.com/willowng
[02:36] <Amaranth> it might not be for long, my dev subdomain is in need of some cleanup
[02:37] <Burgundavia> ok, this is just for uwn
[02:38] <Amaranth> eek
[02:48] <Burgundavia> Amaranth: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue8
[02:50] <Amaranth> ah
[02:51] <Amaranth> that's cool, but your missing a newline between SoC projects
[02:51] <Amaranth> alright, now that i've fixed my bash on my server (.bashrc hacking is fun!) time to do some housecleaning
[02:52] <Amaranth> crap, i can't remember how to activate new subdomains
[02:52] <Burgundavia> Amaranth: caught that
[03:10] <Burgundavia> Amaranth: do you know what is new in LTSP?
[03:10] <Amaranth> nope
[03:10] <Amaranth> I've never used it.
[03:10] <Amaranth> I don't run Edubuntu, I just make things. :)
[03:12] <Burgundavia> Amaranth: that makes two of us
[03:24] <gromerotw> Hello there!
[03:25] <Signifer> hey
[03:26] <gromerotw> How are you doing?
[03:27] <Signifer> Awesome
[03:27] <gromerotw> I have a question about setting up edununtu?
[03:27] <gromerotw> Can I post it here?
[03:27] <Signifer> Don't see why not
[03:28] <gromerotw> I'm trying to use wavesurfer
[03:29] <gromerotw> It works fine on the server but when I try on the client (ltsp)
[03:29] <gromerotw> the sound keep going out from the server's speaker.
[03:30] <gromerotw> The same happen with gnusound
[03:30] <gromerotw> How to fix it?
[03:31] <Signifer> Its thinclient you'd have to run the application on the client...not the server...
[03:32] <Signifer> unless anyone else knows of a better way?
[03:32] <gromerotw> It's ltsp.
[03:33] <gromerotw> The application runs on the server and everything goes out through the client.
[03:33] <Signifer> The xSession goes out through the client
[03:34] <Signifer> http://linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/4472/4/
[03:34] <Signifer> thats site has a tutorial, i havn't tested that claims it can do what you want...
[03:37] <gromerotw> Ok. Thanks. I will take a look to the tutorials.
[03:40] <Signifer> the wiki also has a tutorial
[03:40] <Signifer> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound
[03:41] <Burgundavia> Signifer: the lstp.org version of ltsp is different then ours
[03:41] <Burgundavia> you need to turn on sound in edubuntu
[03:41] <gromerotw> I have read many toturials, they are not helpful in this case.
[03:41] <Burgundavia> I believe ltsp.conf a setting for it
[03:42] <gromerotw> I have sound on the thin client, also xmms is working fine.
[03:42] <Burgundavia> Sound issue fixed by putting the following in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf:
[03:42] <Burgundavia> Code:
[03:42] <Burgundavia> [Default]  SOUND = Tru
[03:42] <gromerotw> It's just that wavesurfer doesn't work.
[03:43] <Signifer> what device is it told to write to?
[03:43] <gromerotw> But if I tried the same setup in redhat 9.0 it works without any problem.
[03:43] <Signifer> :|
[03:43] <gromerotw> I think that I'm missing some package. But what?
[03:45] <Burgundavia> gromerotw: did you do the above fix?
[03:45] <gromerotw> You mean  [Default]  SOUND = Tru?
[03:46] <Burgundavia> yep, well True
[03:46] <gromerotw> Let me check it?
[03:48] <gromerotw> I have in every client SOUND    = Y
[03:48] <gromerotw> but not as [Default]
[03:48] <Burgundavia> try that
[03:48] <Burgundavia> you might need to restart the clients
[03:49] <gromerotw> Ok. Give me a couple of minutes.
[03:58] <gromerotw> I'm back.
[03:58] <gromerotw> The result is the same.
[03:59] <gromerotw> It is using the server's speaker.
[03:59] <gromerotw> SOUND=true
[04:00] <Burgundavia> gromerotw: hmm, have you tried restarting the ltsp server?
[04:01] <gromerotw> Ok. I will try. I'll be out for a minute
[04:08] <gromerotw> I'm back.
[04:08] <Signifer> and?
[04:08] <gromerotw> The result is the same than before.
[04:08] <Signifer> did it work?
[04:08] <Signifer> :(
[04:09] <gromerotw> It didn't.
[04:09] <gromerotw> If you have two pcs. and the sound working fine on the thin client.
[04:10] <gromerotw> and you try to install wavesurfer
[04:10] <gromerotw> perhaps you will have the same problem.
[04:11] <gromerotw> But if you try the same setup on redhat 9.0, there will be no problem.
[04:13] <gromerotw> I'm using esd as the sound server in the lts.conf
[04:14] <gromerotw> Is there any way how to restore to normal edubuntu without reinstalling again?
[11:26] <lucasvo> ogra: ltsp-build-client failed
[11:26] <lucasvo> Unpacking xserver-xorg (from .../xserver-xorg_1%3a7.0.22ubuntu7_all.deb) ...
[11:26] <lucasvo> xserver-xorg config warning: failed to infer keyboard layout from layout/lang '10 debian-installer/keymap doesn't exist--10 debian-installer/language doesn't exist'
[11:26] <lucasvo> Server symlink checksum doesn't exist. We need to make it
[11:27] <lucasvo> I'll try again
[12:05] <lucasvo> ogra: failed on second attempt as well :(
[05:07] <wouterl> are the educational pakages in edubuntu also available in other languages (than english) like dutch?
[05:11] <lucasvo> wouterl: quite a lot, I can't say you how much
[05:11] <lucasvo> wouterl: however you can get a list of the applications being translated here:
[05:12] <lucasvo> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+lang/nl
[05:12] <lucasvo> however it's not only educational applications
[05:12] <wouterl> thanks !
[05:14] <wouterl> it helped a lot (that link)
[05:15] <lucasvo> wouterl: as you see a huge part has already been translated. you just have to install the language packs
[05:23] <wouterl> thanks for the information, i'm off now
[05:30] <Caraibes> hi all, I have a newbie question :
[05:31] <Caraibes> I am now running Blag (bades on fc5)
[05:31] <Caraibes> I just downloaded edubuntu installl
[05:31] <Caraibes> and want to check md5...
[05:31] <Caraibes> do you know how I could do it ?
[05:43] <lucasvo> Caraibes: md5sum __FILENAME__
[05:44] <Caraibes> thank you, sorry for such a silly question...
[05:44] <lucasvo> np
[07:24] <flint> hi there sports fans!
[07:24] <flint> I need to flip eth0 and eth1 on a system I have running, anybody got any elegant ideas?
[07:27] <Signifer> bios?
[07:29] <flint> Signifer, na, something in /etc/networks and maybe in a bunch of other places as well....
[07:38] <Signifer> works for floppy drives :-P
[07:39] <flint> excellent point...
[07:39] <flint> anyway gotta reboot in another place... later!
[09:13] <flint> anybody know how to set EDD 606 to forward packets?
[10:56] <eugman> Which of the typing programs are available by default on the livecd?
[10:57] <lucasvo> eugman: Ktouch
[10:58] <lucasvo> and I think tuxtype
[10:59] <eugman> Do you think a livecd would be good enough for my mom to learn typing or would a harddrive to save stuff be really needed?
[10:59] <lucasvo> eugman: what machine do you have?
[10:59] <lucasvo> I live cd is slow if there is less then 512mb
[10:59] <lucasvo> 256 are needed tor run it at all
[11:01] <eugman> I've got an old gateway 2000 I was thinking of setting up for her. It will probably end up being too old and I'll have to remaster a lightweight distro.
[11:02] <lucasvo> eugman: I would install Xubuntu
[11:02] <eugman> Do you know if I'd have to remaster it or does it have a typing program installed like gtypist?
[11:03] <lucasvo> eugman: remaster?
[11:03] <lucasvo> eugman: it takes about 4min to install gtypist
[11:04] <eugman> Right, and that would be perfect if I was expecting constant uptime or a computer literate mother.
[11:04] <lucasvo> yes
[11:04] <eugman> That and no internet acess
[11:04] <eugman> So it has to be installed  on the cd itself.
[11:04] <lucasvo> oh, internet may be critical
[11:05] <eugman> Forgot about that for a moment myself.
[11:05] <lucasvo> in that case, download the xubuntu and edubuntu cd, install xubuntu, then add the edubuntu cd as a repository
[11:06] <eugman> Now would running ktouch from xfce defeat the purpose of running xcfe?
[11:06] <lucasvo> eugman: no.
[11:07] <eugman> Would it be possible to make a script file that will install and run the program?
[11:07] <lucasvo> yes
[11:08] <eugman> thanks
[12:11] <pygi> Burgundavia, poke?


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[10:37] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
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[17:04] <santa_> good afternoon everyone
[18:18] <mparillo> Good afternoon, santa_. Sorry to hear about your server issues.\
[18:28] <santa_> no problem, I'm restoring the thing + taking advantage to migrate the autopkgtests thing to lxd and document the thing
[20:47] <santa_> acheronuk: hey the iron hand reports are back
[20:47] <santa_> http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/ka-iron-hand_reports/frameworks_archive/5.40_bionic_proposed_migration.pdf
[20:47] <santa_> http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/ka-iron-hand_reports/plasma_archive/5.11.3_bionic_proposed_migration.pdf
[20:50] <valorie> cool
[20:52] <valorie> how come plasma-vault and drkonqui are "not found"?
[20:55] <santa_> not in our packageset I guess so rik couldn't upload them
[20:57] <santa_> if I'm not mistaken they would have to be uploaded by a MOTU first, pass the upload queue, then added to our packageset and then anyone holding the 'Kubuntu Developer' would be able to upload new versions
[20:58] <santa_> * anyone holding the 'Kubuntu Developer' title
[21:04] <valorie> oh, I see
 @santa_, Right
 Except that in order for Kubuntu Developers to be able to upload, it needs to be added to the packageset
[22:13] <krytarik> That's what he said™
[22:15] <tsimonq2> hah
[22:16] <santa_> np
[22:16] <santa_> so ... this is the status of my area51
[22:16] <santa_> 1. iron hand reports -> restored
[22:17] <santa_> 2. tritemio -> to be restored, taking advantage to do some work on the setup guide
[22:17] <santa_> 3. kci experiment -> to be restored
[22:24] <tsimonq2> santa_: Hey, just an FYI about an experiment I'm doing.
[22:24] <tsimonq2> santa_: I got access to the Ubuntu CI Train recently (bileto.ubuntu.com) and I'm going to stage Plasma 5.11.4 in it
[22:24] <tsimonq2> santa_: (I've been chatting with Rik and clivejo hasn't been around afaict, hi if you are)
[22:25] <tsimonq2> santa_: But it provides full Britney integration, builds on every arch, autopkgtests, the full 9 yards
[22:25] <tsimonq2> (yes, including s390x)
[22:26] <tsimonq2> santa_: I *just* got access today so I'm still learning but if you want to take a peek, here's the PPA: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/3055
[22:27] <santa_> tsimonq2: seems interesting, thanks for the info
[22:27] <tsimonq2> santa_: Yeah it's something Core Developers have access to automatically but I figured I'd do a bit of poking around and I was added to the team ;)
[22:28] <tsimonq2> The downside to using that for stagings is that only I have access to it
[22:28] <tsimonq2> (to upload to the PPA, to press buttons, everything)
[22:29] <tsimonq2> But it's also convenient for when I want to do stagings by myself :P
[22:29] <santa_> yeah, but it's still interesting
[22:29] <tsimonq2> santa_: One more additional thing worth noting is that when I press the Big Button to land everything, it copies binaries as well... super useful for Qt transitions where debootstrapping stuff can be a bit of a PITA
[22:30] <tsimonq2> Right :)
[22:32] <tsimonq2> santa_: One other thing to consider is that for autopkgtests it might be worth it to bump deps in debian/tests/control
[22:33] <tsimonq2> (while you're here)
[22:33] <tsimonq2> Maybe. It would have to be tested.
[22:33] <tsimonq2> But if I'm seeing this correctly, if we pin the deps at a certain version, autopkgtester will automagically grab those deps from -proposed
[22:34] <santa_> oh, indeed
[22:34] <tsimonq2> So that's kinda your dept as you're the ka guy atm ;)
[22:35] <santa_> if that's the right solution it would be quite easy to do and test
[22:35] <tsimonq2> But like I said, don't take my word on it, it's just a theory of mine based on the wording of "all proposed" when talking to archive admins
[22:35] <tsimonq2> Like, is there a "some" proposed? :P
[22:35] <tsimonq2> Right
[22:36] <santa_> so I need to finish restoring tritemio first to evaluate the change
[22:37] <tsimonq2> Ok
[22:41] <tsimonq2> OOOOH santa_, nice on the desktop notifications for builds :D
[22:42] <tsimonq2> Pleasantly surprised!
 @Valoriez I talked to Andy Whitcroft (apw - arcive admin) about drkonqi and plasma vault, and he will try to review them in when they hit the new queue with @tsimonq2's 5.11.4 upload
 well, paraphrasing really ^^^ "throw it at the queue, that will remind me", but same thing :P
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[22:55]  * tsimonq2 plays merger vanguard after this is all pushed
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[22:56] <valorie> acheronuk: cool!
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[01:10] <thafreak> I'll likely be there...at OLF that is
[12:03] <belkinsa> Maybe we can meet up somewhere on that Friday.


[00:00] <nacc> courrier: did you ask a question?
[00:00] <courrier> no, wait
[00:01] <courrier> If I'm the maintainer of the package HotPotato, I'll ahve to tell, for every distro and every distro release, what version of HotPotato should be in the repository, correct?
[00:01] <nacc> courrier: generally, yes.
[00:01] <nacc> courrier: although as the maintainer of HotPotato package, that doesn't mean you maintain it in every distro
[00:02] <tgm4883> nacc: I wouldn't say that's true
[00:03] <tgm4883> courrier: you're wording things weird again.  Not for other distros
[00:03] <nacc> tgm4883: yeah, i caveated after, when i re-read it
[00:03] <nacc> typically there is an upstream maintainer and a  maintainer (or group of maintainers) in each distribution where it's present
[00:06] <courrier> tgm4883: I'm wording things this way cause I don't know how it works, know I know. By "maintainer" I initially meant the developers of HotPotato, but maintainers are other people
[00:06] <courrier> Now I got it
[00:07] <tgm4883> courrier: if you are the developer of hotpotato, you make your software and release it. It's up to the maintainer of the packages (eg. the maintainer of the package hotpotato for ubuntu) that decides what version goes in each distro release
[00:09] <courrier> Cool, that's clear
[00:09] <courrier> Thx tgm4883 nacc :)
[00:10] <courrier> I'm glad all these people are doing that job for me though :D
[00:18] <hellp> im trying to mount an img file, help would be appreciated. more info here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25447967/
[00:27] <Plasticbox> hellp the file is located in downloads cdrom usb an ext drive?
[00:28] <hellp> Plasticbox, I dont understand the question
[00:28] <Plasticbox> where is the file
[00:30] <hellp> the image is in /home/sherman/damagedusb/damaged-usb.img
[00:30] <hellp> but I am already in /home/sherman/damagedusb
[00:30] <Plasticbox> have you changed the file name?
[00:32] <Plasticbox> is it on a usb drive?
[00:32] <hellp> err. no, the image name has not been changed
[00:32] <hellp> no, im working on a copy I made, the image is in the directory I wrote
[00:33] <hellp> the original in the usb drive is kept away,not to further damage it
[00:33] <Plasticbox> I see okay
[00:41] <Plasticbox> I'm lazy so I use removable media and boot live cd's on a non production machine and use something like systemresuecd
[00:45] <Plasticbox> or just old school mount /path/to/your/iso/file/somefile.iso -t iso9660 -o loop /mnt/whatever
[00:46] <hellp> Plasticbox, it is an .img
[00:46] <Plasticbox> right click an open it
[00:46] <hellp> with what application?
[00:47] <Plasticbox> use the browser or mousepad
[00:47] <ledeni> hellp, try 'mount -t vfat -o r,force,loop,offset=32256 damaged-usb.img mnt'
[00:47] <Plasticbox> view it
[00:47] <Plasticbox> damaged does give red flags right?
[00:48] <Plasticbox> try and upload it to an img site
[00:49] <hellp> I right click the .img, I get a list of application to open it with, none of them work
[00:49] <hellp> ledeni, thanks, but I get mount: mount point mnt does not exist
[00:50] <Plasticbox> right
[00:51] <ledeni> hellp, what DE you using?
[00:51] <Plasticbox> so if uploading it to tinypic.com doesn't work it may be broken
[00:51] <hellp> ledeni, what does DE mean?
[00:52] <nacc> hellp: desktop environment, e.g., gnome, kde, etc.
[00:52] <hellp> nacc, a, xfce ledeni
[00:54] <Plasticbox> photorec works if it's not already messed up
[01:02] <ledeni> hellp, try to find application and install 'udiskie' it is disk auto-mounter
[01:07] <psychoticwarrior> hey
[01:09] <psychoticwarrior> whats up
[01:12] <ledeni> hellp, and 'xarchiver'
[01:12] <psychoticwarrior> cool
[01:20] <ai101> Hoi
[01:20] <ai101> installing ubuntu now
[01:20] <ai101> issues
[01:20] <ai101> pls help
[01:22] <ai101> big issues
[01:24] <oerheks> ai101, ask, wait and see
[01:24] <ai101> It says i have windows boot manager on my system
[01:25] <ai101> and it just says "erase disk and install ubuntu"
[01:25] <ai101> wtf
[02:02] <kLOs> Hi, i have a ralink wifi usb stick but it won't show when doing lsusb, on my macbook it shows. any idea what i should try?
[02:03] <kLOs> at the moment i just get this: Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
[02:03] <kLOs> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[02:03] <kLOs> i plugged it in the 2.0
[02:04] <kLOs> of course iqconfig also doesn't list anything
[02:04] <kLOs> *iwconfig
[03:20] <genewitch> i have this ubuntu machine where gnome won't start anymore, does anyone have the time to help me fix it? startx brings up lxde or something, no menus, i can open a terminal and run firefox and use it, but there's no task switching, etc.
[03:20] <genewitch> gnome-session just sits there, no output
[03:44] <blakes5> anyone familiar with lvm?
[03:45] <blakes5> If I have a LVM consisting of multiple drives and I have more free space than is the size of a drive I want to remove, can I remove that drive without data loss?
[03:54] <pragomer> can I (easily) create a live cd with a persitent and encrypted home?
[05:14] <jack3k3> I've been trying to use '>' to pipe terminal output from a program to a file and use  'tail -f' to monitor it, however I've noticed that the file is not actually written until the program finishes, this leads me to believe the behavior of the '>' is not as expected
[05:27] <Ben64> jack3k3: > isn't pipe
[05:30] <jack3k3> meant redirection
[05:30] <jack3k3> but regardless, found a workaround by using the script command
[05:30] <Ben64> ok
[05:30] <jack3k3> guess its due to buffering anyway
[05:37] <outofthebox> Hi
[05:40] <outofthebox> I want to output the display from cpu to with ubuntu to laptop screen
[05:40] <outofthebox> laptop with ubuntu
[05:47] <outofthebox> any one ?
[05:58] <acresearch> people, I have a 460MB .gz database file that I would like to upload somewhere to make it available to people to simply download. Is there an online ftp or cloud service that I can do this with (something that will keep the file perminantly rather than expire after a certain time?).
[06:25] <Zabot> Ubuntu 16.04. Ethernet interface will occasionally drop after a half hour of inactivity.
[06:25] <Zabot> Any troubleshooting ideas?
[06:25] <acresearch> people, I have a 460MB .gz database file that I would like to upload somewhere to make it available to people to simply download. Is there an online ftp or cloud service that I can do this with (something that will keep the file perminantly rather than expire after a certain time?).
[06:25] <Ben64> acresearch: not on topic here
[06:26] <acresearch> Ben64: where can i go then?
[06:26] <Ben64> dunno, but it's definitely not an ubuntu issue
[06:42] <imshiva> hi
[06:43] <imshiva> how do I bridge connections on ubuntu
[06:43] <imshiva> ?
[06:43] <Herdo> can you clarify what you mean by bridge connections? bridge between network interfaces?
[06:45] <imshiva> yes
[06:46] <Herdo> Here are detailed instructions. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge
[06:48] <Herdo> It's fairly simple.
[06:48] <imshiva> Is it possible to do between ethernet and wireless
[06:48] <imshiva>  ?
[06:49] <Herdo> I don't have any experience, but I don't see why not.
[07:15] <yourmomisameme> dicks dicks dicks
[07:16] <Herdo> neato
[07:17] <yourmomisameme> Herdo is a dick
[07:17] <yourmomisameme> eat yourself fag
[07:23] <stevr2it_> salve ho un problema con al scheda wireless di un pc su ubuntu 17.04
[07:23] <ducasse> !es | stevr2it_
[07:24] <PlusMinus> hey i am running ryzen 1700 with linux live usb ubuntu 17.04, but when i type lscpu in the terminal it only shows me using 1 cpu, how do i enable all the cpu's/threads?
[07:24] <stevr2it_> ok sorry, i have a problem with wireless of a pc and ubuntu 17.04 it does not whow any wirelees ent
[07:25] <stevr2it_> show
[07:25] <stevr2it_> i have tried some solutions available on the web but none helped me
[07:26] <stevr2it_> ubuntu recognize the wireless card but does not show any network and the wireless card on gnome or unity desktop
[07:27] <stevr2it_> ducasse can you help me?
[07:27] <PlusMinus> heh, i tried some cmds online as well, but couldn't enable any more cpu's, kinda dumb how they only detect 1 processor, why the heck would they ever do that for
[07:38] <Herdo> PlusMinus: what is the output of 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' ?
[07:39] <Herdo> post it to pastebin.com, then share the link here
[07:46] <brainwash> PlusMinus: I suggest that you test with 17.10 (dev release)
[07:46] <brainwash> it comes with a newer kernel
[07:54] <PlusMinus> hmm. hold on let me get the screenshot
[07:55] <Ben64> screenshot?
[07:56] <Herdo> PlusMinus: you dont
[07:57] <Herdo> you don't need to take a screenshot.  just copy the output and paste in pastebin
[07:57] <PlusMinus> what? i saved a screenshot of the lscpu info
[07:57] <Herdo> OK whatever works for you
[07:57] <PlusMinus> oh i can't do that no now, i already took out the gpu and put it back into this system
[07:57] <Ben64> it's weird to take a picture of text
[07:58] <ducasse> PlusMinus: you can also try a mainline kernel
[07:58] <ducasse> !mainline | PlusMinus
[08:01] <PlusMinus> https://imgur.com/a/ZlRih
[08:01] <PlusMinus> i am new to linux, so i don't really know much about these cmds, took me awhile just to figure out how to get linux to boot on ryzen
[08:02] <Ben64> yeah you probably want to try a newer ubuntu
[08:02] <PlusMinus> but why would ubuntu only detect and use 1 cpu by default?
[08:03] <Ben64> because it has an older kernel
[08:04] <PlusMinus> hmm, how old could that kernal be, it didn't detect dual or quad from before?
[08:04] <Ben64> it doesn't know about ryzen
[08:04] <PlusMinus> k
[08:05] <PlusMinus> i couldn't get it to load up the sensors to detect my temps as well, kept getting errors, should have taken SS of those as well
[08:05] <Ben64> pastebin
[08:06] <PlusMinus> i can copy/paste those errors from the terminal?
[08:06] <Ben64> yep, to a paste service
[08:06] <Ben64> but it doesn't really matter, try something with a newer kernel
[08:07] <PlusMinus> k, yah when i tried to make a txt file etc, when i right click on the desktop, it wouldn't give me no option to make a txt file only create a new folder, so could't even do that, heh
[08:07] <PlusMinus> ok, will grab 17.10
[08:07] <PlusMinus> i just grabbed 17.04 like 3 days ago
[08:07] <Ben64> the newest hwe in 16.04 has 4.11
[08:08] <PlusMinus> i dont see no 17.10 only see 17.04
[08:08] <PlusMinus> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[08:09] <ducasse> 17.10 is under development -  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current
[08:10] <PlusMinus> is this the file i want?   artful-desktop-amd64.iso
[08:10] <Herdo> yes
[08:10] <PlusMinus> k
[08:11] <PlusMinus> i had to put acpi=off in the cmd line when i booted up 17.04 will i need to do it with 17.10?
[08:11] <Ben64> that causes problems
[08:12] <PlusMinus> if i don't put acpi=off with 17.04 it wouldn't boot kept giving me interupt 7 errors
[08:12] <Ben64> probably because your cpu wasn't supported
[08:13] <PlusMinus> cruddy, yah i was reading up and found out that linux is having issues with gigabyte boards
[08:14] <PlusMinus> and then giga goes out and rls a shitty bios that is frying some ppl's systems, heh
[08:15] <PlusMinus> ok, well thx for the help, i will test out 17.10 and report what i find out, GN!
[08:19] <Herdo> PlusMinus: I was just about to ask you that.
[08:20] <Herdo> turning acpi=off will cause this 1 core problem you are having
[08:32] <blakes5> is there a way to see the free space of individual drives on logical volume in LVM?
[09:31] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[09:31] <CountryfiedLinux> My speakers aren't detected in Linux when plugged into the monitor's audio jack.
[09:31] <CountryfiedLinux> Still confirmed.
[09:32] <CountryfiedLinux> Plugged speakers into monitor's audio jack. Speakers not detected. Laptop audio jack detected fine.
[09:32] <CountryfiedLinux> But that limits me to 1 headphone jack.
[09:39] <CountryfiedLinux> Is this a driver issue?
[09:39] <koomen> Hi there. I run ubuntu 16.04 LTS on a macbook and have problems with xbacklight. When I do: xbacklight -dec 20 I get "No outputs have backlight property"... I googled a lot already but can't find something that works for me
[09:48] <|subz3r0|> hi
[09:48] <|subz3r0|> after installing a DE on ubuntu server 16.04, after a reboot no desktop comes up. its bootin in the cli again. any ideas?
[09:52] <ledeni> |subz3r0|, what de you using?
[09:56] <|subz3r0|> mate
[09:57] <tomreyn> |subz3r0|: how did you install mate?
[09:58] <|subz3r0|> mate-desktop without recommends
[10:00] <ledeni> |subz3r0|, try startx to see it come up
[10:01] <|subz3r0|> startx is not installed
[10:04] <tomreyn> you probably lack a display manager
[10:05] <|subz3r0|> lightdm-gtk-greeter is fine?
[10:05] <|subz3r0|> or do i need the whole lightdm?
[10:07] <smithmail> Hello , irc can't connect with mobile hotspot :)
[10:07] <smithmail> Please anyone tell me why
[10:07] <|subz3r0|> smithmail: I guess you should provide us more details what's not working exactly.
[10:08] <brainwash> |subz3r0|: lightdm-gtk-greeter should pull in lightdm anyway
[10:09] <smithmail> Okay sir : Urunbu Pidgin use wifi from mobile phone
[10:09] <tomreyn> |subz3r0|: you need any x-display-manager (that's a meta package you can search for)
[10:09] <|subz3r0|> brainwash: i installed now xinit and lightdm-gtk-greeter... its still not bootin in the DE
[10:09] <smithmail> Wep/wep2 personal
[10:09] <tomreyn> |subz3r0|: and you also need X, of course.
[10:10] <smithmail> I can receive email and visit websites
[10:10] <tomreyn> |subz3r0|: if you choose lightdm, lightdm-gtk-greeter is not enough
[10:10] <brainwash> |subz3r0|: does the greeter load?
[10:11] <smithmail> And pidgin works well under wifi when I have WiFi route
[10:12] <|subz3r0|> brainwash: no
[10:13] <|subz3r0|> smithmail: are you sure your provider is not blocking it? Which irc client do you use? what errors does it show you?
[10:13] <brainwash> |subz3r0|: I would try this: sudo systemctl start lightdm
[10:14] <smithmail> I use Pidgin
[10:14] <smithmail> And it works fine in normal wifi
[10:14] <smithmail> But can't connect when I use mobile phone hotspot
[10:14] <|subz3r0|> brainwash: i can see now the greeter. but it looks horrible and i cannot login with my credentials
[10:15] <|subz3r0|> smithmail: everything else is working, right?
[10:15] <smithmail> Sometimes I make a wifi hotspot by my mobile phone ,
[10:15] <|subz3r0|> smithmail: yeah, but that should not be the issue
[10:15] <smithmail> Yes. Everything good
[10:15] <smithmail> Expect IRC
[10:16] <|subz3r0|> please pastebin following commands from terminal
[10:16] <brainwash> |subz3r0|: uhm. the theme can be changed I guess. maybe the wrong keyboard layout is selected, so check the keyboard indicator in the top bar
[10:16] <|subz3r0|> 1. ifconfig 2. route -n 3. ping -c3 google.com
[10:17] <tomreyn> smithmail: reconfigure the pidgin IRC module to connect to Freenode on port 6697 and to use SSL
[10:17] <|subz3r0|> this way we can see your network config, if name res works and the set routes
[10:17] <smithmail> Well. Everything okay but pidgin
[10:17] <brainwash> |subz3r0|: to enable lightdm permanently, run: sudo systemctl enable lightdm
[10:18] <|subz3r0|> brainwash: what packages do i exactly need to install minimal mate desktop after a fresh ubuntu install? Just standard system utilities are isntalled
[10:19] <brainwash> |subz3r0|: I think that you need to install with recommends
[10:19] <|subz3r0|> smithmail: also do a ping to the irc server from CLI and paste it
[10:19] <|subz3r0|> brainwash: but i dont want to install all this bloatware
[10:20] <ddellav> |subz3r0| installing a window manager requires a ton of extra packages, you'll need them all
[10:20] <|subz3r0|> smithmail: you will give us the info now or not?
[10:20] <|subz3r0|> smithmail: since its pretty hard to investigate issues with just explanations like "it's not working, but the other way it does..."
[10:20] <brainwash> |subz3r0|: then it's just "mate"
[10:21] <|subz3r0|> ddellav: but i installed it
[10:22] <|subz3r0|> ddellav: mate-desktop (without recommends), lightdm-gtk-greeter, lightdm
[10:22] <|subz3r0|> that should be sufficient under normal circumstances. so actually im not sure whats missing
[10:23] <ddellav> if its in recommends then you don't need it
[10:25] <|subz3r0|> i give "mate" a shot
[10:26] <|subz3r0|> ddellav, brainwash: the thing is, i dont need or want to install all the bloat like firefox, thunderbird, screensaver, libre office, ...
[10:26] <ddellav> so then don't, i guess i don't see the issue
[10:27] <brainwash> so, problem solved?
[10:27] <|subz3r0|> still dl-ing
[10:27] <brainwash> ok
[10:27] <bazhang> |subz3r0|, get the mini iso and build up
[10:28] <bazhang> |subz3r0|, put lxqt lxde/opnbox on that
[10:28] <bazhang> !mini | |subz3r0|
[10:28] <|subz3r0|> bazhang: correct me when im wrong. but i guess when i select there the DE, for example mate, it will install all the unwanted apps i don't want to get installed on the system
[10:29] <bazhang> |subz3r0|, it wont
[10:29] <|subz3r0|> also i dont want lxde, because it looks horrible ;)
[10:29] <|subz3r0|> I use it in different types of settings, but not for that machine
[10:29] <bazhang> so get the mini
[10:30] <bazhang> you've not even tried lxqt
[10:33] <|subz3r0|> bazhang: Because it looks as shitty as lxde does
[10:33] <bazhang> |subz3r0|, no cursing here
[10:33] <|subz3r0|> I dont need or want a super light weight DE on that machine
[10:38] <ledeni> |subz3r0|, why not install 'sudo apt-get install xinit' and with startx load mate
[10:40] <|subz3r0|> ledeni: already done. the greeter looks horrible and it wont accept my credentials. connecting via ssh works fine instead
[10:45] <ledeni> |subz3r0|, try 'dpkg-reconfigure lightdm'
[11:30] <tsousa> When is ubuntu comming with Gnome?
[11:31] <brainwash> !17.10
[11:48] <kriech0r> morning, i'm look into saving some power with a hp gen 8 microserver and ubuntu 16.04. according to my UPS its using ~60Watts when idle... would like to lower that if possible
[11:49] <ddellav> try removing the CPU
[11:49] <kriech0r> hehe ;)
[11:49] <ddellav> :P
[11:50] <kriech0r> its a E3-1265L
[11:52] <kriech0r> shutting down cores or lowering the frequ would be good... additionally it looks like the two md raid1 i have are not going to sleep
[13:09] <helllp> am I now in?
[13:13] <ddellav> thats what he said
[13:18] <Ascavasaion> I have a Gigabit controller in my laptop.  but in Network connection information it says it is 100Mb/s.  I plugged the same cable into a Windows 7 laptop and connection was 1Gb/s.  any ideas why the Ubuntu (Lubuntu actually) is not utilising the network card to its full potential?
[13:19] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: chipset?
[13:19] <helllp> so, where else could I post a thread about data recovery? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2370295&p=13682116#post13682116
[13:20] <Ascavasaion> ducasse: lspci gives "Realtek... ... ... RTL8101/2/6E" and connection Information gives "Driver 8169"
[13:22] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: that's a common problem with that chipset IIRC, try doing some searches like 'realtek 8169 only 100mbps' etc, and I'm sure you'll find something relevant. i'm a bit busy now, or i'd do it for you.
[13:23] <Ascavasaion> ducasse: Aaah, thank you... will do... and come back and bother you again if I do not come right :-)
[13:23] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: iirc, there is an alternative driver available that works in some scenarios
[13:43] <pankaj> What is the difference between usage of 'sudo' and 'sudo -'. I had studied that it has some minor difference and is related to login prompt
[14:09] <Reventlov> Hi. Let's say my ubuntu loop at the login screen (even if my password is good), what logs should I read to find out what happens?
[14:09] <Reventlov> (ubuntu 17.04, migrated from 12.04, but the installation failed at the grub installation, but I can still manage to boot to ubuntu)
[14:10] <Ascavasaion> ducasse: I just checked the Lenovo website... This laptop only has a 10/100 Mbs network card... how sucky.
[14:10] <Ascavasaion> Anyone know if ethernet cards can be upgraded?
[14:10] <Ascavasaion> In a laptop.
[14:12] <tgm4883> Ascavasaion: no. You could get a USB network card
[14:13] <Ascavasaion> tgm4883: Sigh... what a disappointment.  Thank you.
[14:18] <leftyfb> Reventlov: you went through 10 upgrades to get to 17.04?
[14:18] <Reventlov> well, yeah, sinec the 17.04 iso proposed so.
[14:18] <Reventlov> « update to 17.04 »
[14:18] <Reventlov> also bios -> uefi I think.
[14:19] <leftyfb> Reventlov: was it a fresh install or did you go through 10 upgrades? because 12.04 will most certainly not prompt you to upgrade to 17.04
[14:19] <Reventlov> It was a boot to the ubuntu 17.04 iso, and they proposed me to update the 12.04 to ubuntu 17.04, in the installation prompt
[14:19] <tgm4883> leftyfb: the 17.04 installer prompted the upgrade it sounds like
[14:20] <tgm4883> Reventlov: does guest mode work?
[14:20] <leftyfb> tgm4883: 12.04 will not prompt for 17.04
[14:20] <leftyfb> ah, ok
[14:20] <tgm4883> leftyfb: that's not what I said
[14:21] <leftyfb> Reventlov: as tgm4883 suggestion, try guest mode or try creating a new user and logging in with that. If either of those work, then this might be an easy fix
[14:21] <ChaosD> Hello, my sd-card is randomly remounting as ro. because of a very small internal onchip ssd i moved my /home on an sd card. sometimes it goes ro and i have to restart my laptop. someone know this issue ?
[14:22] <leftyfb> ChaosD: possible bad SD card. I do not recommend putting your /home or anything important on an SD card.
[14:23] <ChaosD> leftyfb i had to, my internal is just 16 gb
[14:23] <ChaosD> leftyfb can i check if the sdcard is bad ?
[14:23] <leftyfb> ChaosD: ok, then this is the issue you're going to continue to run into
[14:24] <leftyfb> ChaosD: look at dmesg
[14:27] <ChaosD> I found something:
[14:27] <ChaosD> [21006.415286] usb 2-4: string descriptor 0 read error: -22
[14:27] <ChaosD> [    3.419070] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found
[14:27] <ChaosD> [    3.419076] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[14:28] <ChaosD> for more i have maybe wait till the remount
[14:47] <ChaosD> leftyfb can it possibly have something to do with some usb energy saving features? i think it happens only on low bat.
[14:47] <ChaosD> but im not sure
[14:55] <tomreyn> ChaosD: can you not connect external storage using usb or something? which hardware is this?
[15:00] <ChaosD> tomreyn i have a toshiba chromebook cb 30 with an build in sd card reader. a usb storage is a bit unhandy for portable usage.
[15:00] <ChaosD> and a sdcard is internaly like an usb device or not ? so, where is the difference ?
[15:02] <kk4ewt> ChaosD, yes sdcard is  most likely useing usb to connect but the speed of the media is the real difference
[15:03] <tomreyn> sd cards have quite limited write cycles. they are okay for storing medium to large files temporarily, but not for storing data in the long run, nor for extensive create / remove cycles.
[15:04] <tomreyn> an external SSD or HDD could last much longer and provide faster writes
[15:04] <tomreyn> well, just the SSD, not the HDD
[15:05] <kk4ewt> hdd would be faster than sdcard
[15:06] <tomreyn> possibly, depends
[15:06] <Ascavasaion> Later all
[15:07] <ChaosD> but sadly i neither can exchange my onchip ssd nor tape a usb device on the back of my laptop :D
[15:11] <tomreyn> 16 GB can actually be fine for ubuntu.you could place a subdirectory of your home directory (e.g. 'Downloads' or 'Music') on your SD card, as long as you regularly back that up
[15:26] <CountryfiedLinux> I'm having issues installing the AMDGPU-Pro driver. https://pastebin.com/j1eytfEu any suggestions?
[15:28] <CountryfiedLinux> Are these drivers compatible with 17.04+?
[15:30] <oerheks> CountryfiedLinux, did you run updates before installing? and did you add any ppa or used the driver from the amd site?
[15:30] <oerheks> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:32] <CountryfiedLinux> oerheks, Just to rule out this issue, could it be because I'm on the 17.10 live session?
[15:32] <linuxnoob011> hi all, i'm having networking issues and I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction. basically, I can't get internet over a wired ethernet connection. problem is specific to my ubuntu setup as the same ethernet cable works fine when plugged into my windows laptop. happy to provide details on what i have tried so far, if someone has a minute to help me sort this out
[15:32] <yasonTR> Hi, question regarding rsync. I am executing rsync with options --backup and --backup-dir=.../`date +\%Y\%m\%d_\%H\%M\%S`/. Now, for every execution of rsync, all files are copied in the backup directory, and not only the changed files. Why is that? I also added the -a and --delete parameters.
[15:33] <CountryfiedLinux> And I more recently read that the AMD Carrizo chips have AMDGPU-Pro support by default.
[15:33] <ChaosD> tomreyn, the problem is texlive, which let me alive with 700 mb on /
[15:33] <oerheks> CountryfiedLinux, live session.. yeah,   never done that before.. and for 17.10, join #ubuntu+1 for support until release
[15:33] <CountryfiedLinux> ok thanks
[15:34] <CountryfiedLinux> I just haven't had success having audio from my monitor's audio jack and found a link that suggested installing the AMDGPU-Pro driver, then later read that it should be installed by default if supported.
[15:35] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: can you paste this one line, lspci | grep Ethernet to find which chip you have
[15:35] <leftyfb> yasonTR: because you're copying it to a new directory every time. There's nothing to compare to.
[15:35] <oerheks> open amdgpu yes, closed pro-driver not
[15:35] <oerheks> !amd
[15:36] <linuxnoob011> pavlos yes, one second--walking back over to the ubuntu comp
[15:36] <yasonTR> leftyfb: makes sense... I want to achieve that a file is 'archived' when a new version is detected... is that possible?
[15:36] <CountryfiedLinux> I have an AMD A10-8700p.
[15:36] <leftyfb> yasonTR: not with rsync alone
[15:36] <leftyfb> yasonTR: https://github.com/leftyfb/backup_script/blob/master/backup.sh
[15:37] <leftyfb> yasonTR: I'ven been using that script for years. Feel free to use it or modify it to your needs
[15:37] <CountryfiedLinux> oerheks, So my hardware should be good to go by default?
[15:37] <linuxnoob011> pavlos can't copy and paste (not internet on the other computer), but it is a Qualcomm Atheros QCA8171 Gigabit Ethernet card
[15:37] <linuxnoob011> card worked a day ago on another internet connection. just moved to a new apartment and currently having trouble getting internet
[15:37] <yasonTR> leftyfb: many thanks, I will take a look!
[15:38] <oerheks> CountryfiedLinux, if the amdgpu driver is loaded, yes.
[15:39] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: do you have DHCP from your router (if it worked in another place, the config is probably ok)
[15:39] <CountryfiedLinux> oerheks, What do you mean if it is loaded?
[15:39] <oerheks> amdgpu is loaded by default, else the open radeon driver.
[15:39] <linuxnoob011> pavlos internet connection on current modem/router works on other computers, both wireless and wired
[15:39] <oerheks> but you should join #ubuntu+1
[15:40] <CountryfiedLinux> oerheks, How do I check?
[15:40] <linuxnoob011> so think dhcp settings on the router fine. that said, dont think my ubuntu comp is actually getting a lease
[15:40] <CountryfiedLinux> I'm asking in regards to 17.04. I will boot it up next.
[15:40] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: which ubuntu release, kernel (paste lsb_release -a and uname -r
[15:41] <oerheks> driver in use >> lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[15:41] <linuxnoob011> 16.04.2 LTS (xenial); 4.10.0-33-generic
[15:41] <CountryfiedLinux> ok thanks
[15:41] <linuxnoob011> pavlos ^
[15:42] <CountryfiedLinux> It says amdgpu driver in use.
[15:43] <CountryfiedLinux> Kernel driver in use: amdgpu
[15:43] <CountryfiedLinux> So that means I have it loaded?
[15:44] <CountryfiedLinux> I don't know the difference between amdgpu and amdgpu-pro.
[15:44] <yasonTR> will rsnapshot work on ubuntu 16.04?
[15:45] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: try sudo modprobe alx (you can see the modules loaded with lsmod
[15:46] <linuxnoob011> a lot to re-type. let me see if i can throw in a usb wireless card and connect from the ubuntu comp
[15:46] <linuxnoob011> is it ok if i brb in 2 mins pavlos?
[15:46] <pavlos> sure
[15:46] <CountryfiedLinux> Is amdgpu and amdgpu-pro the same thing? Am I using the supported driver or the dead one?
[15:46] <ChaosD> leftyfb: my internal cardreader disconnects, not my sdcard. i got ro and dmesg shows that my dev 4 on bus 2 disconnects an after a few ms it reconnects as dev 6 on bus 2.
[15:49] <oerheks> CountryfiedLinux, take a read firsthttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMDGPU-Driver
[15:49] <oerheks> i already explained
[15:50] <CountryfiedLinux> ok thanks
[15:51] <CountryfiedLinux> I didn't clearly understand but that articled answered my question.
[15:54] <linuxnoob011> hi pavlos--having a hard time getting my wireless to work through ubuntu as well, so i will retype as necessary
[15:55] <linuxnoob011> the commands you last asked me to run returns a long output--is there anything in particular you are looking for?
[15:55] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: your card should work with 16.04 and that kernel
[15:55] <linuxnoob011> agreed--and it has as recently as 48 hours ago
[15:55] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: the modprobe adds a module just in case it was not loaded ... lsmod lists all the modules you have
[15:56] <linuxnoob011> ah, i see
[15:56] <linuxnoob011> so i had a semi-complex network setup before
[15:56] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: can you boot with another kernel?
[15:56] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: what is semi-complex?
[15:56] <linuxnoob011> i had a split tunnel vpn set up. not sure i would have changed anything that would affect basic connectivity
[15:57] <linuxnoob011> i mean, i undid the obvious things, like the static ip address to a gateway that no longer exists
[15:57] <linuxnoob011> but if there are other sanity checks i should do, i'm happy to run them
[15:57] <linuxnoob011> and i'm sure i can figure out how to boot to another kernel. maybe 4.8?
[15:57] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: look at your /etc/network/interfaces
[15:58] <linuxnoob011> it's set back to a vanilla version
[15:58] <linuxnoob011> both the loopback interface and the ehternet are set to auto
[15:58] <linuxnoob011> and the ethernet to use dhcp
[15:58] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: to boot another kernel, during boot press the left shift so that the grub menu comes up and you select older kernel
[15:59] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: auto eth0 inet dhcp (or another device enp2s0
[15:59] <linuxnoob011> ah, wasn't sure if i'd have to download an old kernel
[15:59] <linuxnoob011> i'll try to boot up an old version now
[15:59] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: the kernels you have are in /boot
[16:00] <BluesKaj> HI folks
[16:00] <linuxnoob011> pavlos already restarting. i should have checked /boot first. i think i purged after my last upgrade
[16:00] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: are you using Network Manager to manage your connections?
[16:00] <linuxnoob011> usually, no. but right this second, yes.
[16:01] <linuxnoob011> basically, i tried to undo as much as my added complexity as possible and revert to base settings
[16:01] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: if so, the interfaces file should just have auto lo iface lo inet loopback
[16:02] <linuxnoob011> ah, fair point. i'll change that on reboot
[16:02] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: you plugged a usb wifi and it did not pick up wireless ?
[16:03] <linuxnoob011> it did not, but i'm not certain the card works natively with linux
[16:04] <linuxnoob011> pavlos unfortunately, i'm having trouble booting into an older kernel. the left half of my screen is dead, so i can't tell what the boot options are. and plugging into an external didn't work
[16:04] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: ifconfig lists just lo, no other network, right?
[16:04] <linuxnoob011> when i'm back booted up, i'll confirm
[16:05] <linuxnoob011> think ifconfig lists my ethernet device
[16:05] <linuxnoob011> enp7s0
[16:05] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: but no ip?
[16:05] <linuxnoob011> if i manually assign it one
[16:05] <linuxnoob011> it will show a local network ip
[16:05] <linuxnoob011> i.e., if i give a static ip in /etc/network/intefaces
[16:06] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: Network Manager should manage that if the wired connection is set to as DHCP
[16:06] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: top right of screen, properties of the wired connection
[16:07] <linuxnoob011> i'm going to try to boot into my usual kernel. i'll start network manager (it is not set to run by default so i have to start it on boot) pavlos
[16:07] <linuxnoob011> and i will confirm my interfaces file only configures the loopback device
[16:07] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: ok
[16:10] <linuxnoob011> pavlos ok, all that is done
[16:10] <linuxnoob011> pinging google returns an unknown host error
[16:10] <linuxnoob011> ifconfig shows two network devices
[16:10] <linuxnoob011> my ethernet card (no ip address)
[16:10] <linuxnoob011> and the loopback device
[16:11] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: if you look at the NM properties of the wired connection, the ipv4 settings should be DHCP. can you verify?
[16:11] <linuxnoob011> hmm, the network manager menu is all greyed out
[16:12] <linuxnoob011> i cannot edit the connections
[16:12] <linuxnoob011> pavlos never mind--just took a bit for network manager to come up i guess. the options are no longer greyed out
[16:13] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: your system is able to see the atheros card, it assigns enp7s0, the issue is you dont get dhcp and probably dns
[16:13] <linuxnoob011> pavlos good intuition--the NM was set to manual
[16:13] <linuxnoob011> changed it back to DHCP
[16:13] <linuxnoob011> looks like i have an ip address on the ethernet card now
[16:13] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: connection info might tell you your ip
[16:13] <linuxnoob011> but pinging googles till returns an unknown host
[16:14] <linuxnoob011> ah, just noticed:
[16:14] <linuxnoob011> i now have an avahi profiled device
[16:14] <linuxnoob011> i stil don't know what avahi is--i just usually try to avoid it
[16:14] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:14] <linuxnoob011> pavlos: no--unreachable
[16:14] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: what ip did you get
[16:15] <linuxnoob011> i'll pm my IP--one sec
[16:16] <linuxnoob011> just sent over PM
[16:17] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: saw it, this is a local ip
[16:42] <hosas> does anyone here uses radiotray? do you still have access to SKY.fm? thanks
[16:55] <imstucklikealway> I'm trying to make changes to nautilus and I need a little guidance. To start with I'm trying to find where a tooltip is used. I've found the tooltip and it references a c file that doesn't seem to exist. I've downloaded a few versions and in each case the file(s) a tooltip in en_GB.po references doesn't exist for example  ../src/nautilus-window-menus.c:548
[17:01] <jdjn> huzza! the window buttons are finally in the proper place
[17:09] <ioria> imstucklikealway, afaik only in the left panel
[17:14] <pepee> hi. I have this intel skylate (i7-6700hq) + nvidia 960m laptop, asus n552vw, that freezes on resume from suspend (magic sysrq keys work), when running on battery... has anyone had a similar issue, or has any clue on what could be the problem/solution?
[17:44] <brainwash> pepee: I would check the system log
[17:52] <m15k> Hi. Can someone tell me what's happening when I've got a virtual server and curl the servers domain. Is the request going via loopback interfaces or is it handles like a normal internet request.
[17:54] <pepee> brainwash, yeah, tried that already... read/write to disk freezes, then the whole system does, so there is nothing in the logs
[17:54] <tgm4883> m15k: it would depend on what IP is getting returned
[17:55] <vlt> m15k: The request goes to the IP address the DNS returns.
[17:55] <brainwash> pepee: well, then test with the latest kernel from the kernel ppa site
[17:55] <tgm4883> m15k: ping the address and it will tell you what IP address it's doing
[17:55] <pepee> brainwash, i'll just update the system to 17.10, thanks.
[17:56] <m15k> tgm4883: it's the ip if the eth0 interface
[17:56] <tgm4883> m15k: then it sounds like it's not using the loopback address
[17:58] <m15k> Mh. But there seems to be a difference if I request request the server via the server itself or via outside. Currently I'm play a little bit with lxd and have a iptables routing to the container. Fromt outside it works fine. But from the box itself it does not.
[18:01] <tgm4883> m15k: well that's a different beast all together. Unfortunately, I won't be much help there. I give my lxd containers direct access to the network
[18:04] <m15k> tgm4883: macvlan?
[18:05] <tgm4883> m15k: bridge
[18:06] <m15k> tgm4883: How do you grant the "direct access"?
[18:08] <hosas> pepee: do have dual graphic card? nvidia has been known to cause such issues. normally I just switch to Intel using nvidia-setting and the issue only comes up when using using nvidia as the default graphics
[18:09] <akik> m15k: i'm also using lxd and there's a lxdbr0 interface which is used to access the containers
[18:10] <m15k> akik: I wan't to access the container via the servers domain.
[18:11] <akik> m15k:
[18:11] <akik> oops
[18:11] <tgm4883> m15k: lxd can use any bridge interface
[18:11] <m15k> remote -> domain.com -> host (lxd) -> container1 [works]
[18:11] <tgm4883> m15k: so I just set the default lxc profile to use br0 and setup a br0 interface
[18:11] <m15k> but what does not work host (lxd) -> domain.com -> host -> container1 - I get a connection refused
[18:12] <m15k> tgm4883: Do you access the containers from outside the server?
[18:12] <tgm4883> m15k: yes
[18:12] <tgm4883> m15k: https://pastebin.com/z2e6mr1h
[18:13] <tgm4883> m15k: when I bring up new lxc containers, they get an IP from my DHCP server on my lan
[18:14] <m15k> I understand that. But you also need to define which container for example contains a webserver or?
[18:14] <tgm4883> m15k: well I would need to setup whatever I needed inside the container
[18:14] <tgm4883> so if it was a webserver, I would setup webserver stuff
[18:15] <m15k> tgm4883: But when you request port80 of you server it needs to get redirect to the container?!
[18:15] <tgm4883> m15k: no. Each container has it's own IP address on my LAN.
[18:16] <m15k> tgm4883: I see.  If I was going to put them on the public internet I'd do that work at the firewall
[18:21] <m15k> mhh I see
[18:26] <Hexal>  Hi, yesterday some of the guys here tried to help for recovering my Ubuntu, but unfortunately, didn't worked, he suggested me to download fresh ubuntu and copying my important file with Live USBm now I trying to copy but other part ion is ntfs and showing me read only, May I ask you to help me about it?
[18:27] <arun007> Hexal: are you dual booting
[18:28] <Hexal> yes ubuntu 16.4 and windows 10
[18:28] <arun007> Hexal: disabled fast boot?
[18:28] <Hexal> I don't think so
[18:29] <arun007> That's why you got this error
[18:29] <Hexal> I should do that from bios?
[18:29] <Hexal> can you help me please recovering my ubuntu?
[18:29] <arun007> Hexal: No you can do it from windows command prompt
[18:29] <Hexal> I don't like to installing fresh ubuntu yet
[18:30] <arun007> Hexal: In windows command prompt type powercfg /h off
[18:30] <Hexal> Actually if I can fix my ubuntu there's no need for moving my files
[18:31] <akik> Hexal: here's a guide https://www.howtogeek.com/236807/how-to-mount-your-windows-10-or-8-system-drive-on-linux/
[18:31] <Hexal> arun007, this your suggetion for moving files
[18:32] <Hexal> akik, My current ubuntu won't booting up I rather to fix this then if didn't worked I'll moving my stuffs
[18:32] <arun007> Hexal: Not only moving files it will solve many issues like disk error that show up when you boot windows
[18:32] <akik> Hexal: can you still boot to windows as you need to do it in windows?
[18:33] <Hexal> arun007, take look at this please https://i.imgur.com/CgxHYgP.jpg
[18:33] <Hexal> akik, yes I can boot to windows only problem is ubuntu now
[18:33] <AndroUser> All: Trying to fix a wifi problem. I'm clueless on how wifi works. Have 3 page writeup at: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/wifi-disabled-by-metropcs-script-4175611950/page3.html
[18:34] <Hexal> akik, arun007 https://i.imgur.com/eXA9EG4.jpg
[18:34] <akik> Hexal: your inability to mount the windows partition needs to be fixed in windows
[18:34] <Hexal> Those photos are for yesterday
[18:35] <Hexal> akik, I don't wanna mount, please help me to fix this problem forget moving files
[18:35] <arun007> Hexal: Try command startx
[18:36] <Hexal> let me check please
[18:38] <Hexal> arun007, I'm booting again, because I was in Live Ubuntu
[18:39] <Hexal> arun007, stuck on here https://i.imgur.com/JWbWD6v.jpg
[18:39] <akik> Hexal: you can use the following commands to change to text mode and graphics mode "sudo systemctl isolate multi-user.target" and "sudo systemctl isolate graphical.target"
[18:40] <Hexal> akik, from where recovery mode?
[18:40] <akik> Hexal: your pasted image shows a login prompt so it's not in recovery
[18:41] <Hexal> akik, that image from yesterday and Eric told some commands on grub before booting up
[18:42] <akik> Hexal: so what did you do before it got broken?
[18:43] <Hexal> akik, My ubuntu updated and the showed me this error:you are running with low graphic mode" something like that, I tried to fix this problem and then didn't boot again
[18:45] <akik> Hexal: how far does it boot?
[18:46] <EriC^^> akik: the last thing it was showing was start gnome display
[18:46] <Hexal> akik, actually not boot just stuck on this https://i.imgur.com/JWbWD6v.jpg
[18:46] <Hexal> EriC^^, Hi
[18:46] <oerheks> hit ctrl alt F7 ?
[18:46] <EriC^^> Hi Hexal
[18:46] <Hexal> akik, Eric helped me yesterday
[18:46] <akik> good that EriC^^ is here then :)
[18:47] <Hexal> EriC^^, I already download fresh ubuntu but I would like to trying again for fixing that isuue
[18:47] <EriC^^> Hexal: why? the ubuntu you're using right now is outdated and stuff
[18:48] <EriC^^> might as well update *shrug*
[18:49] <Hexal> EriC^^, I know but middle of moving my stuffs I got problem :D and decided to fix first issue again :))
[18:49] <EriC^^> what problem?
[18:50] <Hexal> EriC^^, I waned to move home directory to other partion (ntfs) but showed me read only
[18:50] <Hexal> wanted*
[18:50] <EriC^^> Hexal: try sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdxY
[18:51] <Hexal> let me check please
[18:51] <EriC^^> put the actual partition for windows there instead of sdxY
[18:51] <akik> EriC^^: that works? ntfsfix
[18:51] <Hexal> ok
[18:51] <oerheks> ubuntu home to ntfs?
[18:51] <EriC^^> akik: yeah, i was pretty surprised, it seems to do the job well
[18:51] <EriC^^> (for hibernated fs)
[18:52] <akik> EriC^^: but doesn't windows enable it again?
[18:52] <EriC^^> akik: yeah its a one time thing i guess, just to mount it rw if its hibernated
[18:55] <Hexal> EriC^^, error wile copying the folder "gtk-2.0" cannot be handeld because you dont have permissions to read it
[18:55] <Hexal> while*
[18:55] <EriC^^> Hexal: add sudo to the command
[18:56] <Hexal> EriC^^, actually I used drag and drop :D
[18:56] <EriC^^> Hexal: type "sudo nautilus" then do your thing
[18:58] <Hexal> EriC^^, I used cp -r and works I think still copying
[18:59] <Hexal> EriC^^, after copying please help me for installing fresh one, because I have dual os
[19:01] <EriC^^> Hexal: ok
[19:06] <Hexal> EriC^^, it's about 55GB takes time for copying
[19:08] <w9qbj> Trying to setup ACPUPSD, how do I send a message to all desktops warning of the shutdown event. 'wall' messages do not seem to work on Ubuntu 16.04
[19:08] <w9qbj> actually all events that apcupsd triggers on - like battery time, low voltage, etc
[19:09] <skypce> hey
[19:09] <skypce> good day
[19:10] <skypce> how can i connect my hifi to bluetooth with ubuntu 14.04
[19:10] <skypce> ?
[19:10] <skypce> bluetooth do not pair my device
[19:23] <AndroUser> (AndroUser) All: turned off wpa supplicant and network manager. Wicd connects to the hotspot but always fails on cmd: dhclient wlan0. Would my dhclient be corrupted or config messed?
[19:25] <AndroUser> All: How do I fund that/those?
[19:40] <akik> is it a ubuntu bug that networkmanager doesn't work after running "sudo systemctl isolate multi-user.target" and "sudo systemctl isolate graphical.target" ?
[19:41] <brainwash> akik: anything in the journal log?
[19:42] <akik> brainwash: i'll check
[19:42] <J^3> Anyone experienced a flickering screen with an AMD RX 480 card
[19:43] <J^3> suspect it is graphics related, everytime a window refreshes or if I use graphic intense programs
[19:43] <J^3> Usually a restart solve it but not now.
[19:43] <J^3> My current searches have not provided any good fixes
[19:44] <J^3> So in short, help?
[19:45] <brainwash> which ubuntu release is that?
[19:45] <J^3> 16.04.03 LTS
[19:45] <J^3> I also have the latest MESA PPA installed
[19:45] <brainwash> ok
[19:45] <akik> brainwash: "systemctl isolate multi-user" kills wpa_supplicant and "systemctl isolate graphical" doesn't start it
[19:45] <brainwash> maybe give a newer kernel version a test run
[19:46] <brainwash> J^3: 4.12 or even 4.13rc
[19:47] <glitsj16> AndroUser: Have you confirmed wlan0 is indeed your current interface name? Systemd changed to static names for network devices --> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames
[19:48] <glitsj16> AndroUser: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[19:51] <J^3> moonwash: Thanks I checked I am running <IP_ADDRESS> I will find the relevant wiki and try a test run.
[19:52] <brainwash> akik: bug 1576024
[19:52] <J^3> Apologies moonwash, meant for brainwash:
[19:53] <akik> brainwash: this happens in a normal installation too if you run those commands
[19:55] <brainwash> akik: wpa_supplicant.service in 17.04 has this additional line under the [Unit] section -> IgnoreOnIsolate=true
[19:56] <akik> brainwash: oh there's a new wpa package that should have it too. i'm on 16.04
[19:56] <Hexal> EriC^^, I'm ready
[19:57] <brainwash> akik: indeed. it's currently in the -proposed repo
[19:57] <brainwash> 2.4-0ubuntu6.1
[19:58] <tripelb> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/09/01/why-violinist-glen-donnelly-jumped-out-of-a-plane-naked-playing-the-lark-ascending/?utm_term=.921d198435b2
[19:59] <Gallomimia> i guess only WP readers could wonder why
[20:05] <skypce> hey
[20:05] <Hexal> EriC^^, are you still there?
[20:05] <skypce> some solution for my bluetooth problem?
[20:05] <akik> brainwash: that wpasupplicant/xenial-proposed fixed it on 16.04
[20:14] <lordcirth> 'systemd-analyze critical-chain' shows 'irqbalance.service' taking 20 seconds - any idea how to find out what's taking so long/speed it up?
[20:17] <brainwash> systemctl status irqbalance.service
[20:17] <brainwash> or check the journal log
[20:17] <brainwash> maybe you can find some hints in there
[20:18] <brainwash> I assume that you can just disable this service
[20:18] <brainwash> at least I don't have it running
[20:18] <lordcirth> brainwash, I found this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1023020
[20:19] <lordcirth> Seems it may not be useful at all
[20:19] <dahitokiri> Hi folks. My ubuntu installation is screwed up. glxinfo returns the typical error of not being able to find the rgb buffer. The Ubuntu live-USB works great though. Is there anyway I can fix my install without reinstalling the whole system?
[20:20] <brainwash> what did you do to end up with a broken installation?
[20:21] <brainwash> you probably don't want to make the same mistake twice
[20:21] <dahitokiri> unsure. could be when i was trying to install xfce/xubuntu or x2go or NoMachine
[20:22] <dahitokiri> other than that, haven't done anything to impact that part of the system
[20:24] <brainwash> dahitokiri: maybe reinstall these two packages: libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri
[20:25] <dahitokiri> brainwash: apt install --reinstall?
[20:25] <brainwash> I guess so
[21:12] <PlusMinus> hey thx to whoever it was that recommened 17.10 over 17.04, it seems to have solved most of my issues, i cant boot with out having to disable acpi=off and it detects all my cores!
[21:23] <linuxlove> hi
[21:24] <linuxlove> i just installed ubuntu 16.04 and when i downloaded a file text in persian i see some texts in this format ÇäÔÊÊæ ÈÑÏÇÑ
[21:24] <linuxlove> what should i do ?
[21:27] <linuxlove> anyone here?
[21:30] <brainwash> PlusMinus: great news
[21:33] <brainwash> linuxlove: are the two packages fonts-farsiweb and fonts-sil-scheherazade installed?
[21:34] <Bashing-om> dahitokiri: Graphics's driver broke ? What shows ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?
[21:34] <linuxlove> brainwash, no
[21:34] <linuxlove> i think problem is in utf8
[21:36] <linuxlove> fonts-sil-scheherazade is already the newest version
[21:36] <linuxlove> both packages are installed
[21:36] <linuxlove> whats should i do ?
[21:37] <brainwash> I would open the file in the web browser
[21:37] <brainwash> see if that works fine
[21:38] <linuxlove> it is str
[21:38] <linuxlove> subtitle
[21:39] <linuxlove> 00:01:28,768 --> 00:01:31,088
[21:39] <linuxlove> í ÑÊ æ ÑÊ ãíí
[21:39] <linuxlove> when i add to film i see this format too
[21:40] <brainwash> sadly, no idea then
[21:47] <linuxlove> anyone here?
[21:51] <birdman007> I put the ubuntu iso image on a flash drive with rufus and it boots into grub instead of the regular live wm enviroment. Did i do something wrong?
[21:54] <brainwash> birdman007: did you change the boot order?
[21:56] <hellp> have you ever lost a password to important data and recovered it 5 years later. due to technological advances?
[21:56] <birdman007> in my bios? no
[21:57] <hellp> anywhere
[21:57] <hellp> external hdd
[21:57] <hellp> online storage
[21:57] <hellp> partition
[21:57] <birdman007> im booting directly from the flash drive
[21:58] <brainwash> birdman007: so, you are stuck in grub from the ubuntu live image?
[21:59] <brainwash> hellp: that's offtopic, isn't it?
[21:59] <brainwash> !ot
[22:00] <birdman007> brainwash: yeah right off the bat it goes into grub, i dont know why
[22:34] <m15k> Someone has a lxd setup and access the containers from the internet?
[22:40] <solidfox> hello! I am using ubuntu 16.04 on my acer laptop and sometimes when I turn on, certain keys like to do sporadic shit.
[22:41] <solidfox> I usually fix it by rebooting. but is there some way to just reset the keyboard driver?
[22:42] <MarkusDBX> Has any of you guys experienced issues with systemd and dns.
[22:42] <tgm4883> m15k: Does your lxd host have a public IP address?
[22:42] <MarkusDBX> I got a few 16.04 and 17.04 systems and with a new chrome install (version 60) all of a sudden it started to misbehave.
[22:43] <m15k> tgm4883: Yes it has. I still have the problem that I cannot access the container via the public domain from the server itself :(
[22:43] <MarkusDBX> I needed to disable the dnsmaps and to restart the networking service
[22:46] <tgm4883> MarkusDBX: I've not had any issues with it and network manager, but I've seen other people with issues
[22:48] <MarkusDBX> it was so annoying, I didn't even do anything with the system it was running 24/7, then just... suddenly.. fail
[22:49] <MarkusDBX> and was only chrome and browsers that failed
[22:49] <MarkusDBX> so weird.
[22:49] <MarkusDBX> on many systems as well
[22:50] <birdman007> I put the ubuntu iso image on a flash drive with rufus and it boots into grub instead of the regular live wm enviroment. How do i boot into ubuntu?
[23:50] <piremi> hi all
[23:52] <piremi> apt and apt-get are same now?


[17:00] <jdstrand> hi
[17:00] <mdeslaur> \o
[17:00] <kees> o/
[17:00] <jdstrand> #startmeeting
[17:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Aug 22 17:00:38 2011 UTC.  The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
[17:00] <meetingology> Useful Commands: #topic #action #link #idea #voters #vote #chair #action #agreed #help #info #endmeeting.
[17:00] <jdstrand> The meeting agenda can be found at:
[17:00] <jdstrand> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting
[17:00] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Review of any previous action items
[17:00] <meetingology> TOPIC: Review of any previous action items
[17:01] <jdstrand> I don't see any ACTION items this week. I think in the future I will skip this section unless we have an ACTIOn item
[17:01] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report
[17:01] <meetingology> TOPIC: Weekly stand-up report
[17:01] <jdstrand> I'll go first
[17:01] <jdstrand> so, I am mostly caught up on email
[17:02] <jdstrand> there are several things I am juggling that are eating up time
[17:02] <jdstrand> in addition to that, I am on triage this week
[17:02] <jdstrand> while doing that, I hope to look at my metrics work item, since it is related
[17:03] <jdstrand> I made some good progress on defining/implementing dbus/apparmor tests last week
[17:03] <jdstrand> there is still a bit more to do
[17:04] <jdstrand> it appears that jjohansen will be jandling the actual dbus patching-- which I think is probably for the best. he is in a better position to do that since it, libapparmor, the kernel, et al need to be updated in sync
[17:05] <jdstrand> I will do the ubuntu integration, testing and any thing else I can to support his work
[17:05] <jdstrand> (including the tests work this week)
[17:05] <jdstrand> I think that is it from me for now
[17:05] <jdstrand> kees: you're up
[17:06] <kees> okay, I've got the initial metric graphs up, and I'll probalby tweak them a little
[17:06] <kees> I'm going to focus on the remaining work items this week. there are a few I don't actually remember what they were about. heh
[17:07] <jdstrand> kees: thanks so much for those btw. they look great :)
[17:07] <kees> I'm on community too this week
[17:07] <jdstrand> kees: it's nice to have these metrics not only defined (as of this cycle), but now (almost fully) implemented :)
[17:07] <kees> heh
[17:08] <kees> I'll probably continue some of the AppArmor code reviews too. there are a few more that I think need attention still.
[17:08] <kees> mdeslaur's up!
[17:09] <mdeslaur> I just _finally_ published foomatic-filters this morning
[17:09] <mdeslaur> Friday I'm on patch pilot duty
[17:09] <mdeslaur> next week, I'm on vacation
[17:09] <mdeslaur> This week, I'll be going down the list
[17:09] <mdeslaur> that's about it!
[17:09] <mdeslaur> sbeattie: you're up
[17:10] <sbeattie> I'm back from vacation and trying to demangle my inbox.
[17:11] <sbeattie> Otherwise I need to go over some of the apparmor reviews and see where we stand.
[17:11] <sbeattie> I think that's it for me.
[17:11] <sbeattie> micahg?
[17:12] <jdstrand> micahg: is off today and asked me to fill in for him
[17:13] <jdstrand> he has a short week this week
[17:13] <jdstrand> expects webkit and tbird to go out today
[17:13] <jdstrand> is working on the firefox 6 transition in maverick
[17:13] <jdstrand> and is expecting a chromium update from upstream
[17:14] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Highlighted packages
[17:15] <meetingology> TOPIC: Highlighted packages
[17:15] <jdstrand> The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security.
[17:15] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/teamspeak-server.html
[17:15] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/weborf.html|weborf
[17:15] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/dopewars.html
[17:15] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/mednafen.html
[17:15] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/texmacs.html
[17:15] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions
[17:15] <meetingology> TOPIC: Miscellaneous and Questions
[17:15] <jdstrand> Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?
[17:16] <mdeslaur> lol, dopewars :)
[17:16] <kees> :)
[17:16] <jdstrand> yes, without looking, I'm guessing /tmp race
[17:16] <jdstrand> nope
[17:17] <jdstrand> ok, if there are no questions, thanks everyone! :)
[17:17] <jdstrand> #endmeeting
[17:17] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Aug 22 17:17:36 2011 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot . (v 0.1.4)
[17:17] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-08-22-17.00.moin.txt
[17:17] <kees> thanks jdstrand !
[17:17] <mdeslaur> it's a DoDS - Denial of Dope Service
[17:17] <mdeslaur> jdstrand: thanks!
[17:18] <sbeattie> hehe
[17:18] <sbeattie> jdstrand: thanks!
[17:20] <jdstrand> sure thing :)


[23:46] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: Hey! I've got a list of topics that can be in the materials, should I post it somewhere?