[23:09] <ubotu> smartmontools: control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.. In component main, is optional. Version 5.37-5ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 280 kB, installed size 684 kB
[23:09] <hvgotcodes> im on ff
[23:09] <Pelo> UBUNTUISLOVED,  you mean putting a background to the emails themselves you theming the evolution app ?
[23:09] <TiJay> Hi
[23:09] <hvgotcodes> how would i install it from command line?
[23:09] <hvgotcodes> trying to do more from terminal
[23:09] <genii> hvgotcodes: Sorry, had a momentary brain fart
[23:09] <ZiRo`> i have a flash object on my screen that i cant remove without restarting gnome, any ideas how to get rid of it without doing so?
[23:10] <Bruno_> _gpg_: the changes you make in menu.list will be reverted after sudo update-grub, to change th menu.list just leave it like that without updating
[23:10] <Pelo> UBUNTUISLOVED, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[23:10] <TiJay> After reboot I lost all my font settings. Most of my font settings (ie. chat display, or webpage) look different from what itwas before
[23:10] <TiJay> What could cause this?
[23:10] <ZiRo`> happens when i change theme without closing firefox
[23:10] <clay__> what package creates /etc/pulse/ ?
[23:10] <UBUNTUISLOVED> ahh
[23:10] <_gpg_> Bruno_ ty
[23:10] <deus> I want to remove gdm ans start with a text termianl, how?
[23:10] <pike_> _gpg_: there is an entry in menu.lst like a skeleton entry that lets you edit options put in when a package updates it i think
[23:10] <Rukus> if my windows key wasnt working in windows, i wouldnt be in an ubuntu channel asking for help now would i?
[23:10] <UBUNTUISLOVED> i mean evo app
[23:10] <erUSUL> clay__: dpkg -S /etc/pulse
[23:10] <Chepra> hello
[23:10] <Bruno_> _gpg_: np
[23:10] <SuperFart> I put in a DVD and it played but it just froze at the first frame of chapter one and it was playing the music from the title screen
[23:11] <Pelo> UBUNTUISLOVED,  you can change the theme of he whole desktop and the apps in it but I donT, think you can theme apps individualy
[23:11] <bernard__> what is best editor for Linux?
[23:11] <erUSUL> deus: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[23:11] <erUSUL> bernard__: emacs
[23:11] <vocx> Rukus, you would be surprised how people ask windows questions in here. Ha ha.
[23:11] <Chepra> Do you know a burngingprogramm which is able to burn directory which are to big for one dvd and split those?
[23:11] <Cpudan80> Quick question
[23:11] <Aledon6> !syslinux
[23:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about syslinux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:11] <Pelo> SuperFart, try a different player  vlc , xine , mplayer
[23:11] <UBUNTUISLOVED> i was looking to customize evolution even if i had to dig into the code but didnt know if anyone got into skinning the app already
[23:11] <kitche> bernard_ more of a preference sicne it's more of a religous war
[23:11] <Rukus> well i dont understand the problem here.
[23:11]  * genii sips a coffee and settles in for emacs/vi/gedit debates part 99
[23:11] <Cpudan80> My rythmbox doesn't load up correctly, it kind of hangs before showing the list of songs, any ideas as to how to fix it?
[23:11] <deus> erUSUL: neat
[23:12] <Pelo> UBUNTUISLOVED, I think you'll have to dig in the code as you put it
[23:12] <vocx> Rukus, I asked if you changed your kernel recently or some upgrade. Is it possible that a new driver for synaptics touchpad or something else has changed?
[23:12] <Rukus> Pelo: did you know that ubuntu calls it the Super Key? apparently it does. and apppaprently it has been assigned to programs like Amaraok and Copiz Fusion, and atually it HAS worked for me whe ni first installed
[23:12] <UBUNTUISLOVED> what other email options for gnome do i have
[23:12] <erUSUL> Rukus: the windows key (the one with the windows log on it)
[23:12] <erUSUL> logo
[23:12] <kitche> Rukus: it'sc aleld the Si[er Key in Windows as well
[23:12] <Pelo> Rukus, it wasn't for me when I installed 6.06 over a year ago , I had to assign a functuion to it myself
[23:12] <Rukus> vocx, ya i was messing with the xorg.conf, i had to fix some settings in it recently., thats why i asked if it could be my xorg.conf earlier
[23:13] <kitche> bah stupid keyboard Super key*
[23:13] <TiJay> After reboot I lost all my font settings. Most of my font settings (ie. chat display, or webpage) look different from what itwas before
[23:13] <imbecile> I have a question. does anyone make ubuntu case badges? is it allowed under license as long as they arent being sold? I wouls REALLY like one to replace this ugly windows badge on my laptop
[23:13] <Rukus> ok Pelo, but we are talkin about my experiences not yours, and i have told you that it worked when i first installed ubuntu
[23:13] <TiJay> Anyone can help with that?
[23:13] <vocx> Rukus, I think I wasn't here when you talked about xorg.conf so maybe repeating that part will help.
[23:13] <Pelo> Rukus,  and I told you it was called super key when you stated asking and I told you to check in the keybaord shortcut dialog in the pref menu
[23:13] <IanLiu> How can I type in chinese?
[23:13] <erUSUL> !scim
[23:13] <ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[23:13] <sethk> imbecile, you can replace with a secret decoder ring
[23:13] <Rukus> and i told you, that i have shortcuts created already, and they wre not working
[23:14] <Jimdb> i'm getting the message (when I choose restricted drivers) when I select "firmware for broadcom 43xx chipset family" that says "the software source for the package "bcm43xx-fwcutter" is not enabled."  Any ideas?
[23:14] <imbecile> sethk:  what the heck does that mean?
[23:14] <Rukus> this is rather frustrating
[23:14] <UBUNTUISLOVED> lol
[23:14] <SuperFart> lol
[23:14] <sethk> imbecile, you need the secret decoder ring to figure out what it means  :)
[23:14] <erUSUL> Jimdb: System>Admin>Software Sourecs
[23:14] <Jimdb> this is a brand new install...just did it while in this chat room
[23:14] <Pelo> Rukus,  check the keybaord settings make sure you ahve the correct keybord layout selected
[23:14] <Jimdb> erusul:  don't think it will help if I don't know the source name
[23:14] <PP|Spydon> Does anyone know why my desktop icons disappear when I move them on the desktop? I can see them in the terminal...
[23:15] <SuperFart> why do I have to use my ubuntu CD to install mplayer I don't have the CD anywhere
[23:15] <kitche> Rukus: by chance is your keyboard layout different then it was since that's the only thing that I can come up with if Super Key no longer works for you
[23:15] <SuperFart> -.-
[23:15] <Rukus> vocx, could it possible be the keyboard layout?
[23:15] <Rukus> yeah
[23:15] <Pelo> PP|Spydon, do youhave desktop effects enabled ?
[23:15] <genii> !info bcm43xx-cutter
[23:15] <erUSUL> Jimdb: enable universe and multiverse at least
[23:15] <sethk> you people are all so _young_, don't remember secret decoder rings.  :)
[23:15] <ubotu> Package bcm43xx-cutter does not exist in gutsy
[23:15] <Rukus> i t may be
[23:15] <genii> !info bcm43xx-fwcutter
[23:15] <ubotu> bcm43xx-fwcutter: Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:006-3 (gutsy), package size 25 kB, installed size 116 kB
[23:15] <Rukus> i want to know what the difference between pc102 and pc105 is
[23:15] <vocx> imbecile, contact the marketing team. They handle badges and other stuff probably.
[23:15] <genii> hmm in universe already
[23:15] <kitche> Rukus besides a broken key of course :)
[23:15] <Rukus> lol
[23:15] <SuperFart> lol
[23:15] <sethk> Rukus, I believe the addition of the windows key and menu key
[23:16] <Rukus> which one has it
[23:16] <vocx> Rukus, 102 is basic english I think and 105 has international symbols or something.
[23:16] <Rukus> i need specific differences
[23:16] <d0lph1nK1ng> i tried to install a package using sudo apt-get and it says the package is missing and has no installation candidate (i think from uninstalling it before)  what do i do to install it again?
[23:16] <mikebeecham> I hope someone can help....I have installed 'NZB' on ubuntu Gutsy gibbon...as part of the config, it asks me to choose a media player, but it's an 'explorer' window, rather than a list of media players.....where would I find (for example) the folder to choose VLC?
[23:16] <sethk> Rukus, 105 has 3 more keys than 102
[23:16] <imbecile> vocx:  have u ever heard of them being in existance?
[23:16] <Rukus> mine is set to 105
[23:16] <despierto33> hello, everybody! I'm upgrading my graphics card: nvidia or ati??
[23:16] <excalibur> hi, i just installed ubuntu 7.10 on my new laptop, and i have no sound the soundcard seems to be ok (i think) but i cant hear nothing
[23:16] <d0lph1nK1ng> despierto33, NVIDIA
[23:16] <Bruno_> despierto33:  nvidia
[23:16] <yrlnry> In "Evolution", I want to attach my SSH public key to an email message.  But the file is in ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub, and the Evolution "attach file" dialog doesn't display the ".ssh" directory, and doesn't give me a change to type a filename.  What can I do about that, other than copying the file to /tmp?
[23:16] <erUSUL> mikebeecham: use this command 'where vlc'
[23:16] <vocx> imbecile, your contact for marketing is "jenda". He is a moderator of ubuntuforums.org and sometimes gets lost in here.
[23:17] <Pelo> mikebeecham,  do you have a blank field at the bottom just type vlc in it
[23:17] <erUSUL> !sound | excalibur
[23:17] <ubotu> excalibur: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:17] <mikebeecham> Pelo...does not work
[23:17] <imbecile> vocx:  thanks
[23:17] <Agrajag> mikebeecham: 'which vlc'
[23:17] <d0lph1nK1ng> how do i fix "this package is missing or obselete" in apt-get?
[23:17] <mikebeecham> Agrajag: in a terminal window?
[23:17] <mrpockets> Just installed a resh copy of 7.10 and i need some help
[23:17] <Agrajag> mikebeecham: yes
[23:17] <mrpockets> A) I've got no sound
[23:17] <excalibur> thanks erUSUL
[23:17] <mrpockets> b) i need to inhstall Flash player
[23:17] <Pelo> mikebeecham, generaly,  exectuable files are located in /bin /sbin /usr/bin or /usr/sbin
[23:18] <Rukus> is 512 ram enough for Kubuntu? my system runs like moleasses in januray
[23:18] <markybob> Stormx2 around?
[23:18] <georgy_28> ! flash
[23:18] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[23:18] <Pelo> mrpockets, menu >sytsem< admin > synaptic package manager,  search for flash
[23:18] <d0lph1nK1ng> Rukus, 1GB would be best
[23:18] <Pelo> !sound | mrpockets
[23:18] <ubotu> mrpockets: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:19] <Pelo> later folks
[23:19] <vocx> imbecile, why do you care about the "license"? I has nothing to do with Ubuntu.You can sell free software if you want just as any product. The thing with software is that unlike many things, you can build it yourself from source.
[23:19] <Rukus> its soooooo slow
[23:19] <Rukus> its retarded
[23:19] <hector> in compiz fusion, when i restart; my commands will be the normal
[23:19] <Rukus> its worse than XP
[23:19] <hector> defect
[23:19] <d0lph1nK1ng> Rukus, check the type of ram, it may be rated slowly
[23:19] <mikebeecham> Pelo thanks very much mate...that worked
[23:20] <hvgotcodes> ok smartctl -a -d ata /dev/sda does not find any errors -- is there a more rigorous test I could run?
[23:20] <Rukus> ok thanks
[23:20] <kitche> safe*
[23:20] <scragar> my screensaver won't start, anyone any ideas?
[23:20] <imbecile> vocx:  i thought gnu had specific rules against it
[23:20] <mikebeecham> Pelo: how can I associate nzb files with the 'NZB' software?
[23:20] <TiJay> can somebody help me with fixing font settings?
[23:20] <pike_> Rukus: did you recompile with the -runfaster switch?
[23:20] <Rukus> vocx: here is the keyboard section of my xorg.conf.  the only recently edited file that might affect the keyboard:     http://pastebin.com/m12e44c1e
[23:21] <d0lph1nK1ng> pike_, recompile ubuntu?  pretty neat trick
[23:21] <scragar> Rukus: I think it's Ultima, claims to be the fastest linux around, try that
[23:21] <mshadle> crap anyone here know why i get errors like this? "db_input: command not found" and a lot of postinst scripts fail. just normal apt-get installs too. something broke my package management.
[23:21] <vocx> imbecile, nope. You can sell free software. What you cannot do is keep the source to yourself.
[23:21] <hector> please; in compiz fusion i changed the default command, but when i restart it will be default!!!
[23:21] <Rukus> pike_:  no i think i accidentally put -runlikecrap
[23:22] <genii> hvgotcodes: You should be good :) Tho if you are intent on testing the drive maybe get the bootable ultimate boot cd and use the tools specific to your manufacturer of hd for additional tools.
[23:22] <imbecile> ahhhh cool (sorta)
[23:22] <hvgotcodes> genii: how do I test ram? yesterday i had some peculiar behavior that might indicate my computer is dying
[23:22] <pike_> Rukus: i usually run with xfce id recommend you install xubuntu-desktop and try logging into that at login screen. it isnt too impressive eye candy wise at first but easy to edit in settings manager
[23:22] <Jimdb> OK HERE WAS THE CAUSE OF THIS:  i'm getting the message (when I choose restricted drivers) when I select "firmware for broadcom 43xx chipset family" that says "the software source for the package "bcm43xx-fwcutter" is not enabled."  Any ideas?   -------------  the issue was that the installer remarked out all sources in the sources.list file because i didn't have a network cable connected to the laptop at the time of the install.
[23:22] <genii> hvgotcodes: There is a builtin memtest kernel, boot to that
[23:22] <Bruno_> jenda: do you know anyting about the marketing team in mexico?
[23:22] <d0lph1nK1ng> when i removed a package, i can't reinstall it again, it says it was missing or obselote?  how do i fix?
[23:22] <Rukus> well ,is XGL suppsoed to suck up like 150mb of ram?
[23:22] <SuperFart> I'm trying to play a dvd with mplayer but it says that it can't find the file even though I typed in /media/cdrom0
[23:22] <kitche> hector: are you saving your session when you restart?
[23:22] <markybob> hvgotcodes select memtest86 in your grub memu
[23:23] <Borked|Raider> cp -R -f /home/raider/RDX-Files/rdx/trunk/* /home/raider/woW/Interface/AddOns/   anyone able to tell me what arg to add to make it promt me to ask if i want to overwrite, and only if the file taht is to be overwrited is newer then the overwriting file.  i tryed i, but it promtet me for all files.
[23:23] <hvgotcodes> ok thanx
[23:23] <Rukus> pike:  well ,is XGL suppsoed to suck up like 150mb of ram?
[23:23] <il-luzhin> hello
[23:23] <corinth> SuperFart: Is the disc mounted?
[23:23] <erUSUL> Jimdb: have you enabled the sources as i told you??
[23:23] <hvgotcodes> yesterday i turned my computer on, and almost immediately the screen went blank, with the hd light blinking like mad
[23:23] <il-luzhin> Can someone please direct me to a clean inmstall of 7.10?
[23:23] <markybob> Rukus xgl is supposed to suck.  :p
[23:23] <hvgotcodes> i rebooted, and it worked until i bumped it, then the same thing
[23:23] <hector> kitche: im noob, how can i do it?
[23:23] <hvgotcodes> its been stable since then
[23:23] <Jimdb> erusul:  i just explained the cause of my error, just an FYI FOR YOU
[23:23] <vocx> Rukus, I have one more line. I don't remember the details but maybe it is added by reconfiguring the X Server. But you can add it manually too. http://pastebin.com/m4245dcd2
[23:23] <kitche> Rukus: you still use XGL?
[23:24] <pike_> Rukus: i wouldnt know.. ive run in xfce once with beryl and 256mb ram on an old celeron without issue
[23:24] <opexoc> how can I change desktop? or work on another desktop
[23:24] <opexoc> ?
[23:24] <Bruno_> !marketing
[23:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about marketing - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:24] <SuperFart> 'mounted?' whatst hat mean
[23:24] <kitche> hector when you go to shut down your machien and such there should be a checkbox that states save session
[23:25] <vocx> Bruno_, I think you better try to find him in the forums.
[23:25] <Rukus> thic omputer is retardedly slow
[23:25] <georgy_28> Borked|Raider, : try the -u option
[23:25] <Bruno_> vocx: ok thanks
[23:25] <ZiRo`> what can i use to calibrate my monitor colours in ubuntu on gnome?
[23:25] <Rukus> i use XGLll because apparently aigxl doesnt have good results with the xpress200m
[23:25] <Bruno_> Rukus: have you tried fluxbuntu or xubuntu?
[23:25] <hector> thanks
[23:25] <vocx> Bruno_, hey, I just noticed there is a #ubuntu-marketing
[23:25] <opexoc> How can I work on another desktop?
[23:26] <Jimdb> erusul:  i was explaining when I posted a few minutes ago what caused my error.  I edited the /etc/apt/sources.list file and unremmed all the repositories that the ubuntu installer commented out due to me not having my cable plugged in during the install.
[23:26] <Bruno_> vocx: great! thanks. i'll check it our
[23:26] <Rukus> i sohuldnt need to run anything like that on an Athlon 3200+
[23:27] <Aledon6> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=624118
[23:27] <vocx> Rukus, I think that maybe a slow processor these days. I have a 3000+ but I really don't do anything CPU intensive.
[23:27] <mmp> hello, I have here one thinkpad R51e with atheros wifi and ubuntu gutsy installed, but it looks like the card isn't able to scan...
[23:27] <Aledon6> Please help me
[23:28] <mmp> it shows results of some initial scan, but then it just says that there are not wireless networks:)
[23:28] <erUSUL> Jimdb: good ;)
[23:28] <mrhyd3> irc.prison.net
[23:28] <SuperFart> is totem a good movie player
[23:28] <mmp> feisty worked just fine... now I even tried rfkill=0, but it still doesn't work...
[23:28] <pike_> SuperFart: ...i dont care for it but alot of people do. personally i like mplayer sometimes vlc
[23:28] <vocx> Aledon6, please give a short description of your problem, don't just give links.
[23:28] <Bruno_> SuperFart: i rather use VLC
[23:28] <vocx> !please | Aledon6
[23:28] <ubotu> Aledon6: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[23:29] <Aledon6> I am not sure which iso to download
[23:29] <Aledon6> http://sgd.howto-linux.de/download/binaries/sgd/cdrom/
[23:29] <SuperFart> I'm tyring to play a dvd with mplayer and it says 'can't open dvd device /dev/dvd
[23:29] <SuperFart> -.-
[23:29] <SuperFart> how do i fix that
[23:30] <shel> I have a Dell Dim4600 that I am trying to dual boot with Win. I installed Ubuntu 7.10 on a second drive...everything went well. Now when I reboot grub is no where to be found. Any ideas on how I can boot into Ubuntu? Thanks! =]
[23:30] <Rukus> i never thought ubuntu would be so annoying
[23:30] <SuperFart> me either
[23:30] <SuperFart> -.-
[23:30] <nnacht> Hi, how can I fix the mount point of a USB-hard drive? I mean I have problem everytime I plug an external hard drive and the partitions are mouted to different places.
[23:30] <Rukus> i thought mildly annoying in setting it up, not super annoying in keeping it running properly
[23:30] <hockeyfan5000> Why do you say that Rukus?
[23:30] <jayson_r> shel: are the drives sata or pata or mixed?
[23:30] <EruditeHermit> hey, does anyone know how to set the default page margins in OOo and make it the default that is remembered over different sessions?
[23:30] <kitche> Rukus windows is just as annoying as well
[23:31] <shel> jayson_r: mixed, the drive I installed Ubuntu on is PATA, the win drive is SATA
[23:31] <vocx> Rukus, please don't rant in here. It is considered trolling. I you wish to vent then go elsewhere. There is also #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:32] <SuperFart> ya in windows I wasp laying a dvd and resized the window and everything just froze right up
[23:32] <jayson_r> shel: I'll bet ubuntu installed GRUB to the PATA drive (it does the same thing on my desktop) - do you have an option in the BIOS to change which drive boots first and/or a "press for boot menu" option when your PC boots up?
[23:32] <MichealPW> SuperFart: That sounds like an issue with your Video card's drivers.
[23:32] <MichealPW> SuperFart: Although, this is hardly the place for Windows support.
[23:32] <clay__> can someone shoot me a /etc/pulse/client.conf and daemon file?  i wiped them out, and reinstalling pulseaudio has not recreated them.
[23:32] <Aledon6> Which iso should I download?
[23:32] <jayson_r> shel: I don't dual boot, but even though my root partition is on the SATA, I still have to use the PATA as the boot drive in my bios
[23:33] <shel> jayson_r: I do, but it doesn't recognize the PATA drive now
[23:33] <troseph> !mediubuntu
[23:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mediubuntu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:33] <troseph> !dvd
[23:33] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[23:33] <jayson_r> shel: you don't even see the PATA drive in the BIOS?
[23:33] <SuperFart> I'm tyring to play a dvd with mplayer and it says 'can't open dvd device /dev/dvd
[23:33] <SuperFart> how do i fix that
[23:33] <Rukus> ok i will be back later.
[23:33] <SuperFart> -.-
[23:33] <shel> jayson_r: nope
[23:33] <hockeyfan5000> you problably need the right codec Superfart
[23:33]  * SuperFart farts
[23:34] <SuperFart> this is too confusing >:(
[23:34] <jayson_r> shel: sounds like the drive just happend to bite the dust man - are you sure it's plugged in?
[23:34] <vocx> !ot | SuperFart
[23:34] <ubotu> SuperFart: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:34] <SuperFart> I'm not offtopic that dumb bot is
[23:34] <shel> jayson_r: yep, I can run diagnostics on it
[23:34] <Jimdb> i had installed fedora 8 because the live ubuntu cd didn't show my wireless on my laptop & because the compiz didn't work by default.  But I couldn't get the wireless feature working at all.  So, I overwrote the fedora 8 install with an ubuntu install and found that the compiz effects work fine (had to have a valid install).  i just wanted to comment that fedora 8 is looking real good.
[23:34] <ddrplayer512> hello
[23:35] <jayson_r> shel: how if it's not showing up in BIOS?
[23:35] <jayson_r> shel: if a DIAG cd can see it the BIOS HAS to see it as it controlls all hardware in your PC
[23:36] <shel> jayson_r: I don't know, when I boot into the utility partition it sees it, but I dont see it in the bios boot options
[23:36] <jayson_r> shel: what kind of PC is it?
[23:36] <SuperFart> why does ubuntu have to make everything so hard
[23:36] <shel> jayson_r: Dell Dimension 4600
[23:36] <SuperFart> I can't just watch a dvd
[23:36] <SuperFart> -.-
[23:36] <Aledon6> Help!
[23:36] <choudesh> Aledon6: what seems to be the issue?
[23:36] <Aledon6> Finding an iso
[23:37] <Aledon6> http://sgd.howto-linux.de/download/binaries/sgd/cdrom/
[23:37] <choudesh> Aledon6: what iso are you looking for?
[23:37] <Aledon6> Which one?
[23:37] <jayson_r> shel: is it the same in the bios as well as the press any key to boot from... menu?
[23:37] <shel> jayson_r: yep
[23:37] <Aledon6> It's grub stuff. I'm trying to fix something (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=624118)
[23:37] <jayson_r> shel: one thing you can try just for troubleshooting sake is unplugging the SATA and see if the PATA will boot Ubuntu
[23:37] <choudesh> Aledon6: those are just different version. I would suggest the latest version
[23:37] <shel> jayson_r: that might work
[23:37] <Aledon6> Are latest ones towards the bottom or top?
[23:38] <jayson_r> shel: but it still doesn't fix your problem :) but WILL tell if you if that is the problem
[23:38] <choudesh> Aledon6: bottom. look @ the numbers
[23:38] <Aledon6> k thanx
[23:38] <jayson_r> shel: I'd see if you can get some detailed documentation from Dell to see how to go about changing the default boot order to that drive, or perhaps someone here w/ a Dell could chime in...I'm just not that familiar w/ their BIOS system
[23:38] <shel> jayson_r: its so weird, the drive passes every diagnostic test I throw at it
[23:38] <Aledon6> i downloaded an iso
[23:39] <Aledon6> choudesh: should I extract the iso before i put it onto the disk or not?
[23:39] <PP|Spydon> My gnome splash-screen is gone, how do I get it back? It's a fresh install
[23:39] <jayson_r> shel: I'm sure it's not the drive, it's just that Ubuntu installed GRUB to the PATA, and your PC is booting the SATA...
[23:39] <hockeyfan5000> shel:  What bootloader are you using?
[23:39] <Jimdb> superfart:  the issue is with teh codec not with ubuntu nor linux.
[23:39]  * SuperFart farts
[23:39] <choudesh> Aledon6: if you are going to use that ISO on your current machine - it would be easier just to mount the iso
[23:39] <clay__> can someone shoot me a /etc/pulse/client.conf and daemon file?  i wiped them out, and reinstalling pulseaudio has not recreated them.
[23:39] <Aledon6> so just put the iso onto the disk choudesh?
[23:39] <SuperFart> the issue is that ubuntu needs to have codecs and can't just play it like windows mediap layer can
[23:39] <shel> hockeyfan5000: grub
[23:40] <Jimdb> superfart:  just like under windows you would have to purchase a codec to play a movie off an encrypted dvd, you have to provide ubuntu/linux with the proper codec.
[23:40]  * SuperFart farts
[23:40] <SuperFart> maybe I'll just run windows mediap layer with wine.
[23:40] <choudesh> Aledon6: no - you just mount the ISO as if it was already burned to a CD.
[23:40] <shel> jayson_r: its weird, I have options of SATA Master, Primary Master, and C:, which are all the same drive =]
[23:40] <Aledon6> um... okay?
[23:40] <choudesh> Aledon6: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87369
[23:40] <Jimdb> superfart:  you don't get to play dvds by default under windows.  you have to purchase a commercial dvd codec unless, unless, you bought a prefab and that prefab manufacturer provided you with a free copy of a commercial package.
[23:40]  * SuperFart farts
[23:40] <jayson_r> I'll bet Primary Master is the PATA
[23:40] <Aledon6> choudesh: I'm running from liveCD
[23:41] <SuperFart> I bought my computer at a flea market
[23:41] <shel> jayson_r: tried that =[
[23:41] <choudesh> Aledon6: O. Then I would suggest burning it to a CD. ;-)
[23:41] <Aledon6> choudesh: What i need to do requires burning it to CD and then restarting the computer
[23:41] <Aledon6> K ;)
[23:41] <jayson_r> shel: you shouldn't see C:\ in the BIOS???
[23:41] <Aledon6> thanks :)
[23:41] <georgy_28> SuperFart, : install w32codecs, libdvdcss, libdvdnav, libdvdread and libdvdplay
[23:41] <jayson_r> shel: that def. would not be an option there
[23:41] <Jimdb> i'm not talking about "you" i'm talking about people that buy computers in general.
[23:41] <jayson_r> shel: how are you getting into the BIOS?
[23:41] <shel> jayson_r: maybe that was in the other boot options screen
[23:42] <shel> jayson_r: F2
[23:42] <TiJay> Can someone explain what happened and help me fix this please? Before reboot: http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1668/screenshot1copyyb5.png After reboot: http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9871/screenshotzz1.png
[23:42] <TiJay> The fonts got all crooked up
[23:42] <hockeyfan5000> f2 is the bios for Dell
[23:42] <Jimdb> superfart:  precisely, you need to install the w32codec, libdvdcss2, libdvdnav, etc.  you do that through synaptic package manager.  you may have to enable some restricted repositories but after installing those your dvd movies will play.
[23:42]  * SuperFart farts
[23:42] <jayson_r> shel: do you frequent the Ubuntu Forums at all? I have a Dell at work and I could explore some options for you tomorrow morning...
[23:43] <shel> I never do, Im a ubuntu virgin =]
[23:43] <shel> jayson_r: thanks for your help though, Im sure I can figure it out someday =]
[23:43] <hockeyfan5000> shel are you dual booted?
[23:43] <Jimdb> superfart:  no offense intended but I am curious about how old you are.  pretty impressive if you are a teenager or a pre-teen and you are using linux.
[23:43]  * SuperFart farts
[23:43] <jayson_r> shel: try posting your problem there as well, you may get some bites, and if I find anything out in the morning, I'll dig up your thread and let you know what I find out...sorry I couldn't help more tonight
[23:43] <pablin> hi
[23:43] <SuperFart> 12
[23:44] <Mark761966> I've got a sound problem
[23:44] <hockeyfan5000> I think superfart is a troll
[23:44]  * SuperFart farts
[23:44] <pablin> how to config ati in ubuntu 7.04
[23:44] <pablin> help
[23:44] <SuperFart> ...
[23:44] <hockeyfan5000> pablin update your os, save yourself the headache
[23:44] <SuperFart> lol you activated one of my scriptsd
[23:44] <Aledon6> superfart please stop saying you're farting
[23:44] <shel> jayson_r: no problem, thanks again!
[23:44]  * SuperFart farts
[23:44] <Mark761966> I think I need to kill something
[23:44] <SuperFart> it's an awesome script
[23:44] <jayson_r> shel: no prob...hope you get it working :-)
[23:44] <Jimdb> i think scripts are illegal on this server.
[23:45] <pablin> i have acer aspire 5100
[23:45] <Mark761966> But I'm not sure what
[23:45] <Mark761966> Any suggestions?
[23:45] <SuperFart> a farting script is not illegal
[23:45] <Aledon6> But it's annoying
[23:45] <Aledon6> !spam SuperFart
[23:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam superfart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:45]  * SuperFart farts
[23:45] <genii> Yes, extremely annoying
[23:45] <pablin> uptate to 7.10?
[23:45] <SuperFart> HAHA
[23:45] <SuperFart> HA
[23:45] <Aledon6> !spam | SuperFart
[23:45] <ubotu> SuperFart: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense...
[23:45] <hockeyfan5000> pablin just a FYI, I had a pain getting an ATI card installed properly
[23:45] <choudesh> !ops | SuperFart
[23:45] <ubotu> SuperFart: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Pelo!
[23:46] <clay__> does anyone here have pulseaudio installed? if so, i need to files from /etc/pulse/ that are not being installed when i install pulseaudio
[23:46] <hockeyfan5000> I recommend you just updated to 7.10, unless you want to have a hard time...lol
[23:46] <SuperFart> lol
[23:46] <pablin> ok
[23:46] <choudesh> LjL: thanks.
[23:46] <genii> clay__: As I understand there is no default client.conf, you make one.
[23:46] <Mark761966> Killall esd doesn't work
[23:47] <pablin> compiz fusion
[23:48] <docmur> How the heck do I get totem to run DVD"s , I have every gstreamer0.10 plugin installed as well as libdvdread3 and libdvdcs
[23:48] <docmur> but I still can't play my dvd's
[23:48] <Aledon6> Does anyone know what this command does?
[23:48] <peanuter> I am unable to install mp4box.  Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "mp4box".  Installed it on my other machine yesterday.  Any suggestions?
[23:48] <Aledon6> sudo apt-get install ms-sys
[23:48] <Aledon6> ms-sys -m /dev/sda
[23:48] <Aledon6> What does that do?
[23:49] <stefg> !dvd | docmur
[23:49] <ubotu> docmur: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[23:49] <Rukus> XGL uses 165mb ram on my system, is this a usual and necessary amount of ram for that process?
[23:50] <MTecknology> How can I make evolution sit in the tray?
[23:50] <stefg> MTecknology: afaik there is no native feature for that, but you can use alltry for that
[23:51] <stefg> !info alltry | MTecknology
[23:51] <ubotu> mtecknology: Package alltry does not exist in gutsy
[23:51] <stefg> !info alltray | MTecknology
[23:51] <ubotu> mtecknology: alltray: Dock any program into the system tray. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.69-1 (gutsy), package size 57 kB, installed size 224 kB
[23:51] <MTecknology> stefg, I think I found it - mail-notification-evolution
[23:52] <Borked|Raider> Georgy32, the -u is for update. I would like it to copy over all files and ask me if the source are newer to overwrite, because then i can say no and check if im overwriting anything importen
[23:52] <peanuter> ahh i see
[23:53] <peanuter> if anyone else has this issue tell them to install gpac
[23:53] <clay__> genii, no, there was one when i first installed pulseaudio, but now it's not being recreated when i re-install. very bizarre.
[23:55] <stefg> clay__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure pulseaudio ?
[23:57] <clay__> stefg, noting
[23:57] <clay__> nothing
[23:58] <Chewy954> does anyone here use BMPx?
[23:58] <Tone> My computer clock is speeding up to almost 10 sec fast. Plus, I tell it to keep in sync, it's not.
[23:59] <kitche> Tone: sounds like a bad cmos battery it seems
[23:59] <Chewy954> gstbasesrc.c(1816): gst_base_src_loop (): /file/bin-file/src:
[23:59] <Chewy954> streaming task paused, reason error (-5)
[23:59] <Chewy954> Not sure why I get that


[04:14] <pitti> Good morning
[13:17] <pitti> jibel: I'm scared; I think I understand and know almost the entire autopkgtest code now :)
[13:17] <elfy> lol
[13:21] <jibel> pitti, well, you almost entirely rewrote it :)
[13:22] <pitti> heh, true that
[13:29] <jibel> pitti, do you know if it is possible to change the date in an lxc container?
[13:29] <jibel> date -s returns operation not permitted
[13:30] <jibel> for a test I must set the date to something post-14.04.1
[13:30] <pitti> jibel: do you get an apparmor violation? supposedly you can do it with an unconfined container?
[13:31] <jibel> pitti, nothing from apparmor
[13:32] <pitti> jibel: hm, I don't know then, I'm afraid; supposedly containers and host just have one common clock, as they have a common kernel
[13:33] <jibel> pitti, yes, that what I suppose to, and I certainly don't want to change system time
[13:33] <jibel> host system's time
[15:44] <elopio> balloons: sorry, I forgot the landing meeting in 15 minutes. So I have 15 minutes.
[15:46] <jibel> elopio, didn't you say Germany/Portugal was in 15min :P
[15:47] <elopio> jibel: I have two monitors and two eyes.
[15:58] <balloons> elopio, ahh yes, post landing team
[15:58] <elopio> sorry
[15:59] <balloons> elopio, lol, no worries at all
[15:59] <balloons> btw, costa rica won.. woot
[16:00] <elopio> woooot
[16:01] <elopio> it was unbelievable.
[16:01] <elfy> but awesome to watch :)
[16:03] <balloons> watch out elfy, they play england in a couple games!
[16:03] <slickymasterWork> bah, portugal match is starting and I'm unable to see it
[16:03] <balloons> germany is playing now
[16:04]  * elfy is unimpressed by the current match - wants neither team to get any points from it :(
[16:04] <elfy> balloons: yep :)
[16:05] <slickymasterWork> yes balloons against portugal
[16:11] <elfy> oops
[16:18] <elopio> balloons: ready.
[16:23] <balloons> elopio, alrighty
[17:43] <saqman2060> Hello guys. It has been awhile. I am using Utopia 14.10, Xubuntu on my laptop currently. Been very happy with it. Sorry that I missed the last UDS summit. What are the current plans moving forward?
[17:44] <saqman2060>  One thing that I would like to see is the snap feature included with XFCE4.
[17:45] <balloons> saqman2060, howdy
[17:45] <saqman2060> Hello ballons
[17:52] <elfy> saqman2060: snap feature?
[17:53] <saqman2060> elfy, yes, the snapping of windows together as a similar feature implemented in Ubuntu-Unity
[17:53] <elfy> not seen that
[17:54] <elfy> place to ask is #xubuntu-devel though :)
[17:54] <knome> #xfce-dev
[17:55] <elfy> pedantically yes - but I would imagine the underlying question is about xubuntu - or why be in a *buntu channel at all asking :)
[17:56] <knome> would imagine nobody in the xubuntu team is willing to pick that feature request up
[17:56] <elfy> well yes there is that
[17:56] <elfy> anyway - whatever :)
[17:56] <knome> but being a realist, sounds very improbable that anybody active in xfce would do that either...
[18:06] <balloons> well technically it's a wm feature
[18:06] <saqman2060> Just a thought. It would make window placement much easier
[18:07] <balloons> if you ran compiz plus xfce you could have it
[18:07] <saqman2060> Really
[18:07] <balloons> and for the record I love it
[18:07] <saqman2060> The power of asking lol
[18:14] <saqman2060> thanks ballons. This has potential. Wish me luck guys. I will bring this the xubuntu-dev channel.


[00:38] <BinarySavior> in Files when i sort by size, it can consider a directory of 5mb in size larger than one of 5gb in size
[00:38] <BinarySavior> that's annoying
[00:38] <BinarySavior> can i change it?
[00:39] <BinarySavior> it disregards the actual disk space for directories and instead only considers the cardinality of the directories as its size
[00:39] <goddard> well now i know why wayland isn't enabled when using the nvidia drivers
[00:40] <sarnold> BinarySavior: computing the actual size of all files referenced in the directory is a significantly more expensive operation
[00:40] <BinarySavior> ah i see, that makes sense then
[00:41] <BinarySavior> when making a backup of my home directory i was looking for the largest files (usually binaries or datasets) and i was sorting the parent directories by size and I wasn't finding what i was looking for.  In a case like this, I guess I shoudl probably use CLI to find what i'm looking for
[00:42] <sarnold> there's probably gui tools for that
[00:42] <sarnold> ncdu is a nice little TUI tool; du is the usual CLI tool
[00:43] <goddard> second that ncdu is awesome
[00:44] <BinarySavior> yea ncdu is nice ty sarnold goddard
[01:00] <love_> textboard.org
[02:24] <Marz> Does Ubuntu have any plans to switch from Firefox as default browser?
[02:30] <mohan> ?
[02:30] <mohan> Hello
[02:30] <mohan> I need someone's help
[02:31] <mohan> I want install flash player for Chromium
[02:31] <mohan> What can I do?
[02:32] <Marz> Isn’t flash dead
[02:32] <Marz> Why would you want to do that
[02:32] <mohan> I want to play web games
[02:32] <mohan> They need flash
[03:37] <gljefcetshipship> ooo ćao ćao. which kernel will the next point release of ubuntu have?
[03:39] <guiverc> you've not said which release of Ubuntu you're asking about?  18.04.5 for example doesn't move off 5.4 as it's already the highest it goes if using HWE; 20.04 moves to 21.04 kernel or 5.11 when it reaches 20.04.3
[03:40] <gljefcetshipship> 20.04.3
[03:40] <gljefcetshipship> so 5.11 I presume :)
[03:40] <gljefcetshipship> no probs
[03:40] <gljefcetshipship> sisajte kurac
[03:40] <guiverc> yep. HWE means it gets the stack from the stable non-LTS release
[03:44] <Marz> Just installed the latest Ubuntu release. All it has are a few ugly hippo wallpapers
[03:46] <guiverc> Marz, I don't see a support question there, you can read https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/hirsute-hippo-release-notes/19221 to find what's new but if it's just comments you're making it should be in #ubuntu-offtopic etc
[03:53] <sleepymario> Marz: you can always contribute a few good ones
[04:59] <nikolam> I wonder why drivers on 20.04 I think work fine with Steam etc but for newer Ubuntu releases but LTS AMD does not pack and release driver installer and AMD graphics driver in newer ubuntu past LTS does not work well with Steam etc.
[04:59] <nikolam> Wouldn't newer stuff should be getting better, or it is about AMD support for LTS? If AMD graphics drivers are open source, shouldn't newer compiled drivers be the same like form AMD site, just newer and better?
[05:00] <toddc> nikolam: testing vs stable
[05:00] <toddc> newer is not always better
[05:00] <nikolam> I would not like to go back to 20.04 just to install AMD's drivers from AMD site, just to play games. 20.10 and 21.04 are also stable..
[05:01] <nikolam> Testing is what you get updating past 21.04 , so you do testing.
[05:02] <MrMr> Hey guys, I managed to upgrade Ubuntu from 20.10 to 21.04 but I think I missed the prompts that show up during the process. does anyone know how to determine what I missed? I see in the log two separate 300 second timeouts.
[05:02] <toddc> LTS is stable 20.04  intrim are testing versions not LTS LONG TERM Support
[05:03] <nikolam> MrMr I suggest using Btrfs for FS and apt-btrfs-snapshot, so you can easily go back to previous system state and redo update :P
[05:03] <nikolam> LTS is long term support, releases are also stable and supported ad i know.
[05:05] <MrMr> @nikolam, I am not experienced with that process, seems tricky. I'm not seeing any particular issues, maybe the gui is acting stranger than usual? not sure
[05:05] <nikolam> MrMr it's not about Gui
[05:06] <nikolam> No generic anwer here
[05:07] <MrMr> nikolam, if there's no easy way to reverse engineer or investigate, I'm fine waiting till next october I guess..
[05:11] <nikolam> Seems that answer is not that, but asking why external creators (Steam) support only LTS with their SteamPlay. And how drivers from AMD site differs from open source drivers, shipped with Ubuntu.
[06:40] <wujie> hello
[06:40] <wujie> help me
[06:40] <ThinkT510> how?
[06:41] <wujie> The chrome or firefox have not flash plgin
[06:41] <wujie> How to Install
[06:41] <ThinkT510> flash has been end of life for a while now. why do you need it?
[06:41] <wujie> 4399 player
[06:41] <wujie> game
[06:42] <wujie> game or 酷家乐
[06:42] <toddc> wujie: chrome has a program that runs most flash programs but as ThinkT510 says flash has been discontiued
[06:44] <wujie> How to use wine sketchup,I jop is Dsginer
[06:44] <wujie> CAD or Sketchup or 3dmaks
[06:45] <wujie> who is jop same to me
[06:45] <toddc> wujie: check the wine webpage for a list of programs that work in wine
[06:45] <wujie> winehd?
[06:45] <toddc> apt-get
[06:45] <toddc> apt install wine
[06:45] <wujie> ok ,But not have CN
[06:45] <wujie> very so hard
[06:47] <toddc> wine adapts window programs to run on linux but not any program
[06:47] <wujie> winehd vray good for the linux
[06:48] <wujie> toddc ,where are your come from?
[06:48] <wujie> I coming PRC
[06:48] <toddc> there are a lot of other programs that do the same thing but work better on linux but that is not my area   us arizona
[06:49] <wujie> UOA? WOOO very good
[06:50] <wujie> Nice too meet you
[06:51] <toddc> wujie: nice to meet you too  I am just a local sysadmin
[06:52] <wujie> Can you speak Chinese?
[06:55] <toddc> wujie: no
[06:57] <wujie> what is Time now US?
[06:57] <toddc> 23:58
[06:58] <wujie> 14:58
[06:58] <wujie> HAA
[06:58] <pi0> :D
[06:59] <wujie> what do you play game name :CO go?
[07:01] <toddc> wujie: I am not a gamer
[07:02] <wujie> What do you like?
[07:17] <wujie> hello
[07:17] <wujie> hello
[07:17] <wujie> freade
[07:51] <greatwall> hi   friend
[08:31] <olspookishmagus> how come there isn't a "lubuntu" release for 20.10?
[08:31] <olspookishmagus> ummm... is "lubuntu" an official flavor? or to put it in other words, am I being offtopic?
[09:09] <toddc> olspookishmagus: https://lubuntu.me/groovy-released/
[09:17] <olspookishmagus> toddc: thank you
[09:17] <olspookishmagus> consider this matter resolved
[09:21] <zamba> i'm seeing this on one of my servers: https://dpaste.org/v7Oa
[09:21] <zamba> so resolved is not able to start
[09:21] <zamba> and i can't perform dns lookups
[09:22] <zamba> sorry, this: https://dpaste.org/BWN4
[09:52] <punkgeek>  I want to run a command automatically after Busybox startup , how can I do that?
[09:55] <punkgeek> to clarify, I've encrypted my whole disk with LUKS and I've installed Busybox with the network configuration. So when VM has been rebooted, I can connect to Busybox with SSH to enter my LUKS password.  I want to run a command automatically after Busybox startup, to know the VM needs to enter the LUKS password, how can I do that?
[09:57] <toddc> punkgeek: stick around I am sure someone will know the answer
[09:58] <punkgeek> Actually I want something like rc.local on busybox, what is option's name?
[10:11] <david1> i installed anbox in Ubuntu 2.04 it's installed and i pulled whatsapp app  and installed playstore grom github script but it's not connecting to internet is there any solution? for this
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> david1: try androidx86 iso on virtualbox on ubuntu, works much better then anbox
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> david1: alternate, there's an #anbox channel too if you like
[10:17] <fabrizio> hello
[10:17] <fabrizio> hello
[10:17] <fabrizio> how are you
[10:17] <fabrizio> well
[10:18] <fabrizio> enought
[10:18] <fabrizio> fe
[10:18] <fabrizio> wsa
[10:18] <fabrizio> e
[10:18] <fabrizio> wa
[10:19] <fabrizio> varga kde si
[10:35] <skefljet> hey, aanyone in SEO using ubuntu?
[10:35] <thechitowncubs> I know SEO and I use Linux
[10:36] <thechitowncubs> What's your question
[10:36] <skefljet> If you can pretty much do everything using linux :)
[10:36] <skefljet> or are there gaps
[10:36] <thechitowncubs> i can game almost 100% of my games besides COD
[10:38] <skefljet> I'm not a gamer, mostly if all seo tools work for you
[10:57] <BinarySavior> hi, fresh install of 21.04, i noticed when I suspend the desktop then wake it back up I lose my NIC
[10:57] <BinarySavior> it's a wired connection, integrated on mobo
[10:58] <BinarySavior> then after a proper restart i get my network connection back
[11:02] <EriC^^> BinarySavior: did you try restarting network-manager ?
[11:07] <sod> hello
[11:07] <skefljet> gruss got sod
[11:14] <sod> what
[11:14] <skefljet> pomaže bog majmune
[11:15] <sod> ok
[11:21] <BinarySavior> EriC^^, I will try that next time
[11:21] <BinarySavior> systemctl restart NetworkManager.service?
[11:22] <EriC^^> BinarySavior: if it works you can add it to /etc/pm/sleep.d/ so it runs after you come from suspend
[11:22] <BinarySavior> cool ty
[11:23] <EriC^^> BinarySavior: yeah that's the command
[11:23] <EriC^^> or ...restart network-manager for short
[12:46] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:57] <thematrix> sudo hell all
[12:57] <thematrix> sudo hello all
[13:47] <bedo> hello
[13:47] <bedo> francais
[13:47] <coconut> !english | bedo
[13:49] <bedo> thank
[13:49] <coconut> bedo, do /join #ubuntu-fr
[14:21] <beun> can anybody help me with a Ubuntu DDE problem?
[14:23] <ThinkT510> DDE?
[14:26] <VIA> /(7//(/(())[14:27] <freshgumbubbles[> Thanks
[14:28] <BluesKaj> ThinkT510, https://ubuntudde.com/
[14:28] <genii> Heh, the #deepin channel has 2 users
[14:30] <ThinkT510> BluesKaj: is that official? also I don't respect websites that don't respect adblockers
[14:33] <coconut> !ask | beun
[14:34] <BluesKaj> ThinkT510, I use anadblocker, but didn't have a problem with the site, using ublock origin
[14:34] <leftyfb> beun: Ubuntu DDE isn't a supported distribution here. You'll need to seek support from the Ubuntu DDE project
[14:35] <BluesKaj> oops I thought DDE was just a fancy new ubuntu desktop
[14:37] <ThinkT510> leftyfb: thanks, I had a feeling it wasn't official
[15:00] <lantech19446> leftyfb: i looked into setting up my job as a systemd timer but i don't think it's going to work for me because i most definitely don't want my output to go into the journal
[15:00] <Mekaneck> beun: please don't cross post
[15:01] <leftyfb> Mekaneck: they've already been told we can't support DDE here. Where else have they posted?
[15:01] <Mekaneck> leftyfb: in the kubuntu channel
[15:01] <Mekaneck> beun: https://ubuntudde.com/support/
[15:02] <leftyfb> lantech19446: then don't have your script output, or have it output to whatever log you want.
[15:03] <leftyfb> lantech19446: you can also set this in the .service file: StandardOutput=null and StandardError=null
[15:03] <leftyfb> lantech19446: systemd service and timers are WAY more powerful than cron
[15:04] <lantech19446> i don't so much need powerful for this i just need it to work and for some reason my monday script only ran for one monday and then decided to shit the bed
[16:07] <Helmholtz> I've hit `Ctrl+C` while `apt remove`ing a package. What happens now?
[16:07] <Helmholtz> It was unsetting some paths
[16:07] <leftyfb> Helmholtz: re-install the package since it's half-installed/broken now
[16:07] <leftyfb> !op | NIGGE[RS]
[16:07] <Helmholtz> leftyfb: I was using a `.deb` file
[16:08] <Helmholtz> leftyfb: should I find that deb file and install again :(
[16:08] <leftyfb> Helmholtz: if you want it installed, sure
[16:09] <leftyfb> Helmholtz: what package is it?
[16:09] <Helmholtz> leftyfb: no I want it uninstalled
[16:09] <leftyfb> Helmholtz: oh, then try to remove/purge it again
[16:09] <Helmholtz> I think I've used this: https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/amd64/libolm3/download
[16:09] <ramblebamble> hi there
[16:09] <leftyfb> Helmholtz: that's not how you install packages properly
[16:09] <Helmholtz> leftyfb: It says not found
[16:10] <Helmholtz> leftyfb: yeah it was a test
[16:10] <Helmholtz> leftyfb: I mean should I install, then uninstall it?
[16:10] <Helmholtz> Is there a `clean dangling` option?
[16:12] <leftyfb> Helmholtz: what release of ubuntu is this?   cat /etc/os-release | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:12] <Helmholtz> bionic
[16:13] <leftyfb> Helmholtz: sudo apt remove --purge libolm3
[16:14] <Helmholtz> leftyfb: ok thakns
[16:19] <Helmholtz> leftyfb: It says `E: Unable to locate package libolm3`
[16:19] <Helmholtz> `sudo apt purge libolm3 libolm-dev`
[16:25] <NIGGE[RS]> leftyfb: hey, what's up?
[16:26] <leftyfb> Please change your nick
[16:29] <Mekaneck> NIGGE[RS]: i'd change your nick asap because it's inappropriate
[16:29] <Mekaneck> you could get kicked/banned for that
[16:30] <NIGGE[RS]> Mekaneck: Nigge is my actual surname, it's fairly common in Germany
[16:30] <Mekaneck> it was a polite warning
[16:30] <Mekaneck> change it to Nigge then
[16:31] <NIGGE[RS]> the [RS] stands for Rennsport
[16:31] <Mekaneck> just do as told please
[16:31] <NIGGE[RS]> I don't think I'm doing anything wrong
[16:32] <Mekaneck> sigh
[16:32] <RikMills> \o/
[16:33] <Mekaneck> what the...
[16:34] <RikMills> libera staff have obviously had enough of that silliness
[16:37] <RikMills> !ops
[16:38] <coconut> RikMills, no need, he is gone now
[16:38] <Mekaneck> coconut: he's not
[16:38] <RikMills> Mekaneck: indeed
[16:39] <kirk781> NIGGE[RS], hello
[16:39] <coconut> oh... sorry
[16:39] <Mekaneck> dealing with another troll i guess
[16:39] <Mekaneck> NIGGE[RS]: you just won't quit won't you...
[16:44] <coconut> question from another channel: please stop poking him
[16:47] <ramblebamble> @coconut, with such a nick IMHO he deserves it e.g. RS ->Rennsport is totally unrelated to technical things and Nigge the lastname he claims to be common in Germany, well it is not
[16:48] <ramblebamble> Plus, if it really were his last name he would be sensitive to this issues and try to avoid it,
[16:48] <mybalzitch> 100% they knew what they were doing, and the reaction they were going for
[16:48] <ramblebamble> first grade template approach of the alt right, causing a rocus and then claiming to be the victim
[16:48] <kirk781> ramblebamble, he just got kicked out from linux channel
[16:49] <ramblebamble> yeah I saw I think he just joins every channel he finds and thinks he is lit
[16:50] <ramblebamble> Problem with those boneheads, if you ignore them you do society a disservice if you don't they knuckle down and dig in
[16:50] <ramblebamble> Learning through pain is a much too underapprechiated concept these days IMHO
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> please dont discuss this here, leave room for support issues
[16:51] <Mekaneck> let's just leave it at that and not fill this support channel with it
[16:51] <anonymous12059> Hi is there any preferred way to replace certain binaries? For instance you can easily replace shell because /bin/sh is a symbolic link. Most of binaries aren't that way.
[16:51] <leftyfb> anonymous12059: you can use a bash alias
[16:52] <anonymous12059> leftyfb: I want to replace sendmail
[16:52] <ramblebamble> anonymous12059, ubuntu hast the concept of alternatives, for this type of override, but what are you trying to do? or bashalias as leftyfb said
[16:52] <leftyfb> anonymous12059: why?
[16:52] <anonymous12059> I want to force encryption on outgoing mail from different other binaries that use sendmail
[16:53] <anonymous12059> (and I don't mean TLS/SSL)
[16:53] <ramblebamble> anonymous12059, how is that program using sendmail? maybe a simple pipe will suffice?
[16:53] <RikMills> anonymous12059: dpkg-divert can also sometime help: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ap-pkg-diversions.html
[16:53] <leftyfb> anonymous12059: what type of SMTP encryption are you using if not TLS/SSL?
[16:54] <anonymous12059> I wanted to force gpg encryption if it is a known recipient
[16:55] <leftyfb> anonymous12059: that should be done on the client side, not the server side
[16:56] <anonymous12059> Well sendmail isn't a client, am I wrong? I am fine with sendmail knowing the contents
[16:56] <anonymous12059> *is a client
[16:57] <anonymous12059> As I understand it sendmail is intermediate between the sending process which calls it and local SMTP server which then delivers/relays e-mails
[17:13] <anonymous12059> RikMills: I don't know if this will help, but thanks for suggestion
[17:18] <dikonoor> Hi , I have a query related to automated installation of Ubuntu 20.04. I have been using a preseed file and the following file. This has been working fine with Ubuntu 18.04 but not with 20.04:>https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SZd9SsVYJw/
[17:18] <dikonoor> The preseed file I am using is based out of https://help.ubuntu.com/20.04/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt
[17:19] <dikonoor> Are there any changes in 20.04 w.r.t automatic installer?
[18:21] <bahamat> I'm trying to bring up an LXC instance. I use --config=user.network-config... when creating it. In /var/lib/cloud/seed/nocloud-net/network-config it has the config I passed in, but /etc/netplan is empty. I'm using images:ubuntu/18.04/cloud
[18:21] <bahamat> How can I figure out what's going wrong?
[18:24] <bahamat> If I run `cloud-init init` then /etc/netplan/50-cloud-init.yaml shows up, and then `netplan apply` brings up the interface, but why isn't this happening automatically?
[18:26] <leftyfb> bahamat: try #lxc
[18:28] <bahamat> leftyfb: I figured this is more of an ubuntu specific issue since the seed data is showing up correctly
[18:30] <leftyfb> bahamat: can I ask why you're using a cloud image as opposed to just ubuntu:18.04 ? Also, why 18.04 as opposed to 20.04?
[18:32] <ultramage> hi, I use a small remote webserver VM. Last week I finally had a bit of time, so I ran distro upgrade from 16 to 18 (successfully), and then from 18 to 20. The VM is no longer network reachable so it died during boot. The server operator finally got back to me, saying 'it was "$vt_handoff" in the grub boot config' and neither he nor I have an idea what that sentence means. I'd like to assist him in
[18:32] <ultramage> fixing it. Can you point me to an obvious explanation what it is and what to do?
[18:33] <bahamat> leftyfb: Because I have another system that I set up some time ago that's working and I'm trying to replicate this on a new system and it's not working. So I'm trying to reduce variables.
[18:34] <bahamat> leftyfb: The non-cloud image didn't work either. It just had /etc/netplan/10-lxc.yaml set for dhcp, not my config, and it didn't have cloud-init installed.
[18:34] <bahamat> the cloud image at least has cloud-init installed.
[18:34] <leftyfb> bahamat: ok, so you need to utilize cloud-init then? I usually remove that first :)
[18:35] <bahamat> I need to configure the network from the hypervisor side.
[18:35] <bahamat> cloud-init seems the way to go.
[18:37] <leftyfb> bahamat: lxc.network.ipv4 = 1xx.2x.1xx.2x
[18:38] <bahamat> leftyfb: Yeah, I don't know where to put that.
[18:39] <bahamat> Nothing seems to explain that part.
[18:39] <bahamat> But also everything seems to indicate that that's for lxc alone, not lxc with lxd, and for lxc/lxd you're supposed to just use cloud-init.
[18:41] <leftyfb> bahamat: lxc config device set containername eth0 ipv4.address 1xx.2x.1xx.2x
[18:41] <bahamat> ok, let me try that.
[18:43] <tomreyn> ultramage: seeing "$vt_handoff" listed as a boot parameter is not wrong, and does not explain why the system would not boot.
[18:45] <tomreyn> hmm, actually there are some old posts on the web which say that removing it heled systems boot. so maybe you should have them do so.
[18:46] <bahamat> leftyfb: I'm using macvlan which doesn't accept that property. And if I try ipvlan it says it's not compiled in.
[18:52] <leftyfb> bahamat: personally, I setup a bridge interface for my containers to not be NAT'd and use ansible to configure them which includes networking
[18:54] <bahamat> leftyfb: I need these to have direct network connections.
[18:54] <leftyfb> bahamat: yes, that's what a bridge interface does
[18:54] <bahamat> nat out with no incoming is kind of worthless to me.
[18:54] <leftyfb> bahamat: a bridge is a lot cleaner than macvlan
[18:54] <leftyfb> IMHO
[18:54] <bahamat> I also need the interfaces to be locked to a specific vlan.
[18:55] <leftyfb> bahamat: yup, I do that as well in the netplan config in the container
[18:57] <bahamat> Yes, but I can't allow the guest to just go choosing whatever vlan they want.
[18:57] <bahamat> The guest needs to be set on a specific vlan. It's not up to them to choose.
[18:58] <leftyfb> bahamat: then tag the bridged interface instead
[18:58] <bahamat> Having to create potentially hundreds of vlan bridges isn't something I'm looking forward to.
[18:59] <leftyfb> bahamat: you have hundreds of vlans?
[18:59] <leftyfb> you only need 1 bridge per vlan
[18:59] <bahamat> Especially when I can just use macvlan and it behave and it works the way I want. Except for the fact that cloud-init just doesn't run.
[18:59] <bahamat> leftyfb: Yes, I do.
[19:00] <bahamat> Which brings me back to my original question: why doesn't cloud-init run automatically at boot like it's supposed to?
[19:01] <bahamat> If it did, I'd be done.
[19:01] <leftyfb> bahamat: in my experience, it does, which is why I remove it
[19:02] <leftyfb> bahamat: again, you might be better off in #lxc because they are cloud images or #ubuntu-server since cloud-init isn't installed by default in a typical ubuntu desktop install
[19:02] <ultramage> tomreyn: it is unclear what he meant by that or where it got it from. I cannot tell if it's related or not since the vm is offline. All web references I found were super old. This was a fresh ubuntu16 install with minimal configuration changes, so there shouldn't be any ancient cruft in the boot files (and if there was, I assume the updater would take care of that)
[19:02] <bahamat> I'll try #ubuntu-server then
[19:05] <rbasak> bahamat: you're using images:... and not ubuntu:...?
[19:05] <rbasak> I am under the impression you need to use the latter if you want cloud-init to work, since the latter are cloud images and the former are not.
[19:09] <tomreyn> ultramage: well, 16.04 has been EOL for some months, i'm not sure the upgrade path is still supported.
[19:10] <leftyfb> !yy.mm | ultramage
[19:11] <bahamat> rbasak: Currently, yes.
[19:11] <bahamat> I'd like to be able to use any distro, and not just ubuntu
[19:12] <ultramage> tomreyn: as I stated, I first upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04 using the command that the motd instructions suggested. That upgrade completed without issue, which motivated me to then do it once more (since it was now suggesting to upgrade to 20.04).
[19:14] <leftyfb> ultramage: if this was a "fresh ubuntu16 install" , why don't you just install 20.04 fresh?
[19:15] <rbasak> bahamat: then I think you need some source of images with cloud-init enabled, I think?
[19:16] <ultramage> leftyfb: it was a fresh ubuntu install when 16 was the shiny new thing. I held off on OS uprades until now since it is a production VM and I was not familiar enough with it to risk a large upgrade like that. I figured that summer holidays was as good a time as any.
[19:16] <rbasak> Official Ubuntu cloud images do that already, but not every distro ships cloud images
[19:16] <bahamat> rbasak: I thought that's what a cloud image was supposed to be :-/
[19:20] <rbasak> bahamat: that's what a cloud image is.
[19:20] <rbasak> bahamat: the images shipped by lxd upstream at images:... are not cloud images
[19:20] <bahamat> It's installed, but it's just not ever run
[19:21] <rbasak> I don't understand why this is a problem for you.
[19:21] <bahamat> it's called images:ubuntu/18.04/cloud, and it does have cloud-init installed.
[19:21] <bahamat> rbasak: I don't either, honestly.
[19:21] <rbasak> If you want Ubuntu cloud images, use ubuntu:bionic
[19:21] <bahamat> I want debian and alpine images too.
[19:21] <rbasak> For other distros, you need to use cloud images if they ship them, or figure out how to build cloud images for those distros
[19:21] <rbasak> Sure
[19:22] <tomreyn> ultramage: ok, i see. i think you'll need to get more information from the server operator. this 'it was "$vt_handoff" in the grub boot config' info is definitely not enough to tell what's wrong with it.
[19:22] <rbasak> However that's a separate problem that we can't really help with here, and meanwhile you should have no problem on Ubuntu.
[19:28] <Mekaneck> tomreyn: if you have ESM enabled then 16.04 is actually still supported until 2024.
[19:34] <tomreyn> Mekaneck: yes, if so, partially. see https://ubuntu.com/legal/ubuntu-advantage-service-description#uasd-support-levels
[19:34] <ultramage> tomreyn: yeah I e-mailed him back. According to docs, that variable is just to set focus on the graphic terminal, only affects the physical screen and can be trivially remedied by Alt+F1.
[19:35] <tomreyn> ultramage: that's my understanding of it, too. good luck.
[19:38] <alkisg> ultramage, can he boot the vm with a live cd and give you access that way?
[19:50] <jpmh> I have a test ecryptfs mount point.  I can manually mount it, all is good.  When I try and to it from a command line with the params and a file with the pw, it seems to work but fails.  See:
[19:50] <jpmh> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RHJytgvhyf/
[19:50] <jpmh> what am I missing here?
[19:58] <tomreyn> a verb between "When I try and" and "to it from a command line"
[19:58] <tomreyn> jpmh: ^
[20:00] <tomreyn> jpmh: are you aware of bug 1756840 ?
[20:16] <jpmh> tomreyn: I was not - I am now - TY so much - and sorry about te delat, for some reason I did not get the alert that you had respoded
[20:18] <tomreyn> jpmh: you're welcome. if dmcrypt-luks isn't a suitable option, consider fscrypt.
[20:21] <jpmh> tomreyn: YEP
[20:58] <PaulePanter> Hi. Is the key 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32 in some ubuntu-keyring package?
[20:59] <PaulePanter> https://paste.debian.net/1205790/
[21:00] <leftyfb> PaulePanter: that's due to your 3rd part "debian.charite.de" repo
[21:00] <PaulePanter> Doesn’t Ubuntu support mirrors?
[21:01] <leftyfb> PaulePanter: sure, but that particular mirror has an issue
[21:01] <PaulePanter> leftyfb: How so?
[21:01] <leftyfb> PaulePanter: your error messages
[21:02] <leftyfb> PaulePanter: I would use a different mirror
[21:02] <sarnold> I don't think that'll solve this
[21:03] <leftyfb> sarnold: what makes you say that?
[21:03] <leftyfb> it's also an easy and quick test
[21:05] <sarnold> leftyfb: because that key is used by ubuntu archives https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#GPG_Keys_used_by_Ubuntu
[21:05] <sarnold> leftyfb: so "something" has gone wrong that caused that key to not be used to verify this mirror
[21:05] <leftyfb> sarnold: so maybe there's a date/time problem or blocking the keyserver?
[21:06] <sarnold> leftyfb: no keyserver should be necessary, it's provided on the installation images
[21:06] <sarnold> ± dpkg -S /usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg
[21:06] <sarnold> ubuntu-keyring: /usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg
[21:07] <sarnold> I hate these things so much :) I *think* that key should be in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ubuntu-keyring-2012-archive.gpg by default, but if that file isn't there any more, I'm not sure if you can just copy over the /usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg file directly or not. heh.
[21:09] <tomreyn> PaulePanter: so is the "ubuntu-keyring" package not installed on this system?
[21:10] <PaulePanter> I have ubuntu-keyring 2<IP_ADDRESS> installed.
[21:10] <PaulePanter> https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic-updates/ubuntu-keyring
[21:10] <tomreyn> 2<IP_ADDRESS>~18.04.2 would be current on 18.04 LTS
[21:10] <sarnold> does:  debsums -sa ubuntu-keyring   report anything?
[21:13] <PaulePanter> tomreyn: Sorry, terminal cut of `dpkg -i ubuntu-keyring` column.
[21:13] <PaulePanter> ii  ubuntu-keyring 2<IP_ADDRESS>~18.04.2 all          GnuPG keys of the Ubuntu archive
[21:14] <tomreyn> i assume you don't have debsums installed, and can't currently install it?
[21:15] <PaulePanter> tomreyn: Indeed, as it’s in universe.
[21:16] <tomreyn> 1a4dd63e5c76728960a2edddae22e2e0fc53df8e8b87806deb971030ac704eb0  /usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg
[21:16] <PaulePanter> sha256sum?
[21:16] <tomreyn> yes
[21:16] <PaulePanter> Seems to match:
[21:16] <PaulePanter> # sha256sum /usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg
[21:16] <PaulePanter> 1a4dd63e5c76728960a2edddae22e2e0fc53df8e8b87806deb971030ac704eb0  /usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg
[21:17] <tomreyn> now i don't know for sure that this key is in this very keyring. but sarnold seemed to say so,
[21:18] <BinarySavior> EriC^^, hey i tried restarting network manager and it was unable to reach NIC
[21:18] <BinarySavior> (after coming back from sleep
[21:18] <BinarySavior> )
[21:18] <PaulePanter> https://paste.debian.net/1205791/
[21:19] <tomreyn> unfortunately, relying on "long key ids", as i think apt-secure tooling sadly still does, has been considered insufficiently secure for 10 or so years now
[21:25] <tomreyn> PaulePanter: does "apt-key list" output "/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ubuntu-keyring-2012-archive.gpg"?
[21:26] <tomreyn> do you also have file /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ubuntu-keyring-2012-archive.gpg ?
[21:26] <tomreyn> is the system date set correctly?
[21:26] <tomreyn> +time
[21:27] <tomreyn> is this an ubuntu installation, or a derivative?
[21:27] <PaulePanter> Yes. # date -u
[21:27] <PaulePanter> Tue Jul 27 21:27:03 UTC 2021
[21:27] <PaulePanter> tomreyn: Installed using debootstrap.
[21:27] <tomreyn> which of my questions did you reply "Yes" to?
[21:28] <PaulePanter> tomreyn: Sorry. The time question.
[21:29] <PaulePanter> tomreyn: The installation was done using debootstrap.
 PaulePanter: does "apt-key list" output "/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ubuntu-keyring-2012-archive.gpg"?
 do you also have file /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ubuntu-keyring-2012-archive.gpg ?
[21:31] <PaulePanter> tomreyn: Yes it does: https://paste.debian.net/1205792/
[21:31]  * PaulePanter is very confused.
[21:32] <PaulePanter> Maybe I should try the Ubuntu mirrors first.
[21:33] <tomreyn> official mirrors and theior synchronization status are listed here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[21:33] <tomreyn> you need to click on each mirror to get the details for each release
[21:34] <PaulePanter> Same issue with de.archive.ubuntu.com: Err:1 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic InRelease The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[21:38] <tomreyn> PaulePanter: no idea. you'd need to go into debugging and gpgv there.
[21:39] <leftyfb> PaulePanter: check your data and time on the machine
[21:40] <tomreyn> this had been done
[21:41] <tomreyn> maybe apt is using a broken gpgv?
[21:41] <leftyfb> sorry, just noticed that
[21:41] <tomreyn> maybe there's a http proxy being used?
[21:43] <tomreyn> sudo apt-get -o 'Debug::Acquire::gpgv 1' update
[21:44] <tomreyn> see the bottom of apt.conf(5) for more options
[21:47] <tomreyn> PaulePanter: ^
[21:47] <PaulePanter> https://paste.debian.net/1205794/
[21:49] <tomreyn> do these files in /tmp still exist?
[21:49] <tomreyn> what does    gpgv --version   report?
[21:50] <PaulePanter> No, they do not exist.
[21:50] <PaulePanter> # gpgv --version
[21:50] <PaulePanter> gpgv (GnuPG) 2.2.4
[21:50] <PaulePanter> libgcrypt 1.8.1
[21:50] <tomreyn> is /tmp writable ?
[21:51] <PaulePanter> tomreyn: Yes. `touch /tmp/a` worked.
[21:51] <tomreyn> those version numbers match mine. gpgv package version is 2.2.4-1ubuntu1.4
[21:52] <tomreyn> $ file /usr/bin/gpgv
[21:52] <tomreyn>  /usr/bin/gpgv: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 3.2.0, BuildID[sha1]=4fdf68e0aa83984ed629d230f3ad1ab059a44f9f, stripped
[21:52] <tomreyn> $ sha256sum /usr/bin/gpgv
[21:52] <tomreyn> a35217c60803d39bd8cc1118c11e4215a4b91c9ede29c66ad51a60446b7f5718  /usr/bin/gpgv
[21:54] <sarnold> tomreyn, PaulePanter, sorry I didn't paste more before heading out -- https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Ymjtc6ZyNq/ may be useful
[21:54] <PaulePanter> tomreyn: I have version 2.2.4-1ubuntu1, as that’s what is in *main*.
[21:54] <PaulePanter> sarnold: Thanks, but I have that too.
[21:55] <PaulePanter> apt-key list from tomreyn showed it.
[21:55] <sarnold> PaulePanter: aha, cool
[21:56] <tomreyn> PaulePanter: here's (the relevant part of) what i get when i run  sudo apt-get -o 'Debug::Acquire::gpgv=1' update    https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Gdy8yZvzCC/
[22:00] <tomreyn> now i'm not sure whether "NO_PUBKEY 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32" is just a misleading follow-up error of the failed signature verification in your "ERRSIG 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32 1 10 01<PHONE_NUMBER> 9"
[22:01] <tomreyn> or whether its the actual root cause of the verification failing.
[22:02] <tomreyn> if its the root cause, then it's weird that apt does not find / properly use the signing key, even though it's there.
[22:03] <tomreyn> if the signature verification fails even though apt can actually access the signing key, then it's unclear why the verification (gpgv) fails
[22:09] <PaulePanter> tomreyn: Thank you for your help. I am going to hit the sheets now, and continue tomorrow with strace.
[22:12] <tomreyn> good luck, hope you can get to the bottom of if
[23:27] <redbunny> set irssiproxy_password p4zzw0rd
[23:28] <sarnold> redbunny: it'd probably be better to pick a better password
[23:29] <oerheks> sarnold +1 ... 32 characters+, to avoid most rainbowtables
[23:31] <sarnold> oerheks: though if someone grabs your bouncer's password database the password probablydoesn't matter much :)
[23:31] <bigpod> oerheks: 20+ should sufice even against rainbow tables but it depends on how well security is on the other end if it isnt stored properly sometimes evne 100+ cant help


[00:27] <Trevinho> Oh finally https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src.git/+/05a0b26e256a7fc45836ce69e43e439850d5dcce
[00:28] <Trevinho> Good news also for electron apps then!
[01:01] <popey> robert_ancell: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/7zcvkt/atom_snap_doesnt_work/duny7sp
[01:01] <popey> Got a 16.04 system handy?
[01:02] <popey> Looks like people have issues launching classic snaps from gs
[03:55] <robert_ancell> popey, looks like a regression in snapd - it's no longer reporting the .desktop file to GNOME Software. This means G-S assumes it's a command line app and launches it that way. For some reason, that doesn't make it start.
[03:58] <robert_ancell> popey, oh, maybe not a regression - it shows the .desktop file for spotify to me, but not for skype
[04:05] <robert_ancell> popey, https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/snapd-not-returning-desktop-file-for-skype
[06:52] <duflu> And gitlab died
[07:17] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:17] <oSoMoN> and happy Friday
[07:48] <ricotz> oSoMoN, let's see how much apparmor anger arises :(
[08:38] <oSoMoN> ricotz, it's not that bad so far, just a few users with non-default partition layouts
[08:40] <ricotz> oSoMoN, shouldn't this cause those to be non-fatal errors? https://git.launchpad.net/~libreoffice/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/tree/patches/apparmor-complain.diff?h=ubuntu-bionic-6.0
[08:41] <ricotz> oSoMoN, regarding the other apparmor patches, they are in master
[08:43] <ricotz> oSoMoN, so backporting apparmor-complain.diff would be an option
[08:43] <ricotz> g2g
[08:45] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:46] <oSoMoN> salut seb128, ça va?
[08:46] <jibel> Salut seb128 oSoMoN and all
[08:46] <oSoMoN> salut jibel
[08:48] <seb128> lut oSoMoN jibel
[08:50] <seb128> oSoMoN, ouais, et toi ? already friday, which is good (w.e!) but less good at the same time (still lot of features backlog that didn't move as I wish they had this week, getting close from ff now)
[08:51] <oSoMoN> seb128, I'm good but tired, it's been a hectic week
[08:53] <seb128> indeed :/
[08:57] <willcooke> morning all
[08:58] <robert_ancell> mvo, if you have any insight into https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/snapd-not-returning-desktop-file-for-skype please please comment there
[08:59] <mvo> robert_ancell: good morning! let me look, sorry, did made it so far yet :)
[09:00] <seb128> hey willcooke, happy friday
[09:06] <duflu> Morning willcooke, seb128, oSoMoN, jibel, robert_ancell...
[09:06] <willcooke> hi duflu
[09:07] <duflu> seb128, I was able to modify the touchpad GUI nicely to display a message, but then got more ambitious and wondered if I could make it *work* instead. Now banging my head against mutter, again
[09:07] <oSoMoN> good morning willcooke
[09:07] <oSoMoN> good afternoon duflu
[09:07] <robert_ancell> bye all!
[09:07] <mvo> robert_ancell: replied
[09:07] <mvo> robert_ancell: and good night
[09:07] <seb128> hey duflu
[09:07] <robert_ancell> mvo, thanks!
[09:07] <willcooke> hi robert_ancell bye robert_ancell
[09:07] <seb128> duflu, like making g-c-c configure synaptic?
[09:07] <mvo> robert_ancell: tl;dr packaging bug, trivial to fix
[09:08] <oSoMoN> have a good week-end robert_ancell
[09:08] <duflu> seb128, yes it's simple in theory. I'm just missing something small
[09:08] <seb128> duflu, I doubt upstream would accept that, GNOME like to make opiniated choices on techs and stick to their line
[09:08] <robert_ancell> mvo, awesome. I think there's a bunch of those and hopefully popey and flexiondotorg can go out and help fix them.
[09:08] <duflu> seb128, I did agree... until I saw how small and simple it is
[09:08] <mvo> robert_ancell: yeah, I think we need to improve our tooling for better guidance on these
[09:09] <seb128> duflu, well, I predict Bastien is going to tell us to go away that they are not going to accept a commit for that, but maybe I'm wrong
[09:10] <duflu> seb128, this is a matter of easier to seek forgiveness than to ask permission. I think it will be nice enough that he either won't say that, and/or we can patch it trivially
[09:10] <seb128> duflu, ok, good luck :)
[09:10] <oSoMoN> ricotz, backporting apparmor-complain.diff would be an option, yes, but I'm not sure what the point is of having apparmor profiles if they are not strictly enforced
[09:11] <oSoMoN> I'd rather have them enforced by default, and provide guidance to people on how to disable them if they really need it
[09:11] <oSoMoN> I'll ask the security team what their opinion is
[09:12] <Laney> that seems fixed!
[09:12] <Laney> happy friday!
[09:14] <willcooke> hi Laney
[09:14] <willcooke> hi oSoMoN
[09:16] <Laney> moin willcooke
[09:19] <willcooke> wow, for the firstr time since I proposed that chage, I opened an XML file and it opened in gedit and not Firefox.   Much rejoicing
[09:19] <willcooke> *change
[09:19] <oSoMoN> good morning Laney
[09:21] <seb128> Laney, happy friday to you too!
[09:26] <seb128> jibel, hey, could you have a look to https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubiquity/default-enable-downloads/+merge/337967 ? it should be trivial to review
[09:27] <jibel> seb128, I will
[09:28] <seb128> jibel, thx
[10:00] <duflu> seb128, yeah OK I've got some GUI settings working now with synaptics, and a tiny diff. But it's also Friday evening. Will finish next week
[10:03] <seb128> duflu, nice, enjoy your w.e!
[10:04] <Nafallo> o/
[10:11] <seb128> hey Nafallo, happy friday
[10:24] <Nafallo> seb128: headache at the moment, but there's still hope ;-). how are you?
[10:28] <popey> https://github.com/canonical-websites/snapcraft.io/issues/334   :) :)  bug of the day :)
[10:30] <willcooke> ha
[10:51] <davidcalle> French Guyana! It's totally a part of France
[10:57] <jibel> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Guiana
[11:01] <popey> Right, but it's not called "France" is it? :)
[11:03] <jibel> popey, it is a department of France, and you won't name all the department of France on the map, will you?
[11:05] <jibel> department=guiana, region=guiana, country=France
[11:06] <jibel> and continent=south america
[11:06] <popey> Geography lessons :)
[11:06] <popey> Ok.
[11:06] <jibel> yq :)
[11:06] <jibel> yw :)
[11:07] <popey> Just looked odd given no other map I looked at had "France" on it. I guess there's not enough room there for the actual name
[11:07] <jibel> seb128, I cannot fully test your change. Bionic keeps freezing in a VM
[11:08] <jibel> but looks good and download updates is checked by default
[11:09] <jibel> popey, https://snapcraft.io/skype has France
[11:09] <popey> no i mean gmaps, bing maps etc
[11:09] <jibel> ah ok
[11:11] <jibel> popey, but you're right, it's odd and it would make sense to write French Guiana, same for other overseas department, it's just the title of the report is incorrect
[11:22] <willcooke> andyrock, hey, you got a link handy for the upstream MR for g-o-a
[11:25] <Nafallo> I always thought that place was called something like "Brazil"?
[11:27] <Nafallo> ah. I didn't see the tiny little border there :-P
[11:28] <ricotz> oSoMoN, ok, so this needs some discussion, while of course 6.0 in bionic will only complain
[11:30] <willcooke> Trevinho, didrocks linked to this bug as the date alignment fix https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/3
[11:30] <willcooke> Trevinho, is that the right link?
[11:34] <andyrock> Willcooke I've the patch ready but not yet proposed. Waiting for today meeting before proposing it
[11:34] <willcooke> andyrock, ack, thx
[11:46] <willcooke> oSoMoN, do you think we should distro patch HW accel video in to Cr?
[11:46] <willcooke> Upstrea, seems to be stuck in a circle
[11:50] <jbicha> good morning
[11:51] <Nafallo> morning jbicha
[12:09] <xnox> we love you Laney
[12:09] <Laney> hey snookums
[12:13] <seb128> jibel, thanks for testing
[12:13] <seb128> willcooke, no, it's https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/12
[12:19] <willcooke> thanks seb128
[12:20] <Trevinho> willcooke: mh, no... exaclty as seb said :)
[12:20] <willcooke> :)
[12:23] <seb128> hey Trevinho, how are you?
[12:23] <Trevinho> seb128: hey, good... you?
[12:23] <seb128> Trevinho, too busy but good otherwise :)
[12:23] <Trevinho> nice :)
[12:25] <seb128> Trevinho, got a nautilus patch for me? ;)
[12:25] <Trevinho> seb128: I'm preparing the 1st one right now
[12:26] <seb128> Trevinho, \o/
[12:26] <oSoMoN> willcooke, yes, I'll do that
[12:26] <willcooke> oSoMoN, nice one thanks
[12:27] <oSoMoN> the patch currently applies on the dev branch, so it won't reach a stable release near you before ~ 10 weeks
[12:27] <willcooke> oSoMoN, ack
[12:27] <oSoMoN> but we should have it in time for 18.04
[12:28] <oSoMoN> and as it's an optional feature that's behind a flag and off by default, the risk is rather low
[12:51] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, seb128 : another build of LO 6.0.1 is ready for upload at https://people.canonical.com/~osomon/libreoffice-6.0.1/bionic/0ubuntu3/ , can one of you sponsor it?
[12:52] <seb128> oSoMoN, I can do
[12:52] <oSoMoN> (tested in https://launchpad.net/~osomon/+archive/ubuntu/lo-test/+packages, it builds and autopkgtests pass locally, fingers crossed that no other transition in the archive will bork it again)
[12:52] <oSoMoN> seb128, thanks!
[12:52] <seb128> I hope I don't shot myself in the foot by doing so, I'm waiting for launchpad translations imports for days now but apparently libreoffice DoS the importer job :/
[12:55] <jibel> is there a bug about bionic not booting on intel hw with an external monitor attached?
[12:58] <willcooke> jibel, there was one about not booting without external power on certain hardware, but I've not yet seen one about monitors
[12:59] <jibel> okay, submitting one
[13:04] <jibel> bug 1751268
[13:05] <seb128> well, as long as it's the kernel and not us :)
[13:08] <Nafallo> hmm. removed gnome-calculator from desktop-recommends. which one is the preferred one these days then? :-)
[13:12] <xnox> snap gnome-calculator?
[13:13] <Nafallo> not sure we're at the stage where we'll replace apt packages with snap yet, surely?
[13:13] <jbicha> Nafallo: you'll need to install the gnome-3-26-1604 snap first for it to work
[13:13] <jbicha> Nafallo: yes, we are
[13:14] <jbicha> we're not replacing *everything* with snaps
[13:14] <Nafallo> woha. wasn't expecting that for the LTS. okay then...
[13:19] <k_alam> jbicha: Where do I propose fix for unity patches for empathy?.....https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/empathy/ubuntu does not contain any patches and has not been updated.
[13:22] <jbicha> k_alam: it's updated now
[13:23] <k_alam> jbicha: That was quick! Thanks.
[13:32] <willcooke> oSoMoN, this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1751005  is because folk are running the ppa|pre release right?
[13:42] <ricotz> willcooke, no
[13:43] <ricotz> this basically apparmor working, while libreoffice in bionic (6.0) run in complain-mode, the artful (5.4) is in enforcing-mode
[13:49] <oSoMoN> willcooke, yeah, what Rico said, LO has had apparmor profiles for quite some time but they were broken, we have fixed them and now they work as intended, a little too well maybe
[13:50] <oSoMoN> I want to discuss this with the security team
[13:50] <oSoMoN> in 6.0 the profiles are in complain mode, but I personally don't think that's a good solution, it kind of makes them useless
[13:51] <willcooke> thx oSoMoN ricotz
[14:00] <ricotz> oSoMoN, willcooke, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=886548
[14:00] <ricotz> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=884747
[14:04] <oSoMoN> ricotz, Jamie suggests shipping the profiles as they are, but disabled by default
[14:05] <oSoMoN> so I'll work on a patch and will request a SRU to artful asap, to try and curb all that negative feedback we're getting
[14:06] <ricotz> oSoMoN, +1, artful is hit hard here
[14:06] <ricotz> I will update the 5.4.5 backports too
[14:06] <oSoMoN> cool
[14:07] <oSoMoN> I'm preparing the patch now
[14:08] <oSoMoN> seb128, thanks for the LO upload!
[14:08] <seb128> yw!
[14:34] <Laney> wah, -proposed isn't installable atm
[14:34] <Laney> guess I'll have to just let livecd-rootfs migrate and see what happens
[14:35] <Laney> wonder if xnox will still love me then
[14:36] <seb128> haha
[14:36] <xnox> Laney, do it like we did it back in the good old days without proposed-migration
[14:36]  * xnox is feeling retro today
[14:37] <Laney> force hint you mean?
[14:37] <Laney> use my ubuntu-release membership to copy directly to the release pocket ;-)
[14:38]  * Laney will be nice and let mwhudson's upload migrate first
[14:38] <jbicha> 🤠
[14:39] <Laney> I did briefly consider making the official builds use my PPA too
[14:39]  * Laney yeehaw
[15:34] <oSoMoN> ricotz, FYI see last two commits in https://code.launchpad.net/~libreoffice/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+git/libreoffice-debian-pkg/+ref/ubuntu-artful-5.4
[15:37] <ricotz> oSoMoN, ok, fwiw "git commit --ammend"
[15:42] <oSoMoN> fixed
[15:57] <ricotz> oSoMoN, ok
[15:57] <ricotz> oSoMoN, better use "dch -e" so you are not touching the timeline everytime
[15:57] <ricotz> "dch -r" does eventually
[15:59] <GunnarHj> seb128, jbicha: gnome-todo.pot was not imported by LP, but I just uploaded it manually. Not sure it was a good idea, since LP since to be in a bad shape and should better be looked into.
[16:00] <seb128> GunnarHj, shrug :/
[16:01] <seb128> GunnarHj, no it was not, it would be nice if you asked on IRC before next time, I've been talking to Colin since yesterday about those import issues and doing uploads as you might have noticed
[16:02] <seb128> GunnarHj, the launchpad importer was stucked after a server reboot and not is hitting timeout/long delay on libreoffice translations which are in the queue
[16:03] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ok, sorry about that. For that particular package the imports worked last time, but there were only .po files, no template.
[16:03] <seb128> GunnarHj, right, because the package was not generating one, which your fix (that I sponsored) is resolving
[16:04] <seb128> GunnarHj, the new package should result in a successful import once the launchpad job is done hitting libreoffice
[16:04] <seb128> GunnarHj, same for gtk+3.0 and gnome-sudoku btw, just wait those should autoresolve
[16:05] <GunnarHj> seb128: That sounds promising.
[16:06] <seb128> GunnarHj, btw I reviewed the queue and accepted a bunch of template that were waiting, gcc-8 lshw, webkit2gtk, gnutls28, orca so those should have translations enabled now (or when the import is done)
[16:07] <seb128> ibus-libpinyin
[16:08] <GunnarHj> seb128: Is the common denominator that they are new packages in main?
[16:08] <seb128> the recent ones on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+imports?field.filter_status=IMPORTED&field.filter_extension=pot
[16:08] <seb128> GunnarHj, well I was reviewing https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+imports?field.filter_status=NEEDS_REVIEW&field.filter_extension=pot
[16:08] <seb128> but yeah, it wouldn't import things from universe
[16:08] <seb128> unless translations are enable by the debian/control key
[16:09] <seb128> they are some more obvious things in needs review but I don't have the free slots to investigate those now
[16:10] <GunnarHj> seb128: Talking about debian/control, any chance you can add that line in Debian git for fcitx?
[16:10] <seb128> no, I'm not part of that package set
[16:10] <seb128> try asking happyaron
[16:11] <GunnarHj> Ok.
[16:11]  * happyaron patches welcomed
[16:12] <happyaron> my pgp subkey was expired, so giving me a patch will make sure I can remember it when I regain the upload permission
[16:12] <GunnarHj> happyaron: Hi Aron!
[16:13] <GunnarHj> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fcitx/+bug/1749673/comments/7
[16:14] <happyaron> GunnarHj: mind to send it to Debian as well? let's keep it delta clean
[16:15] <seb128> hey happyaron, how are you? ;-)
[16:15] <GunnarHj> happyaron: That patch is intended for Debian. I was hoping that someone just could commit it there. ;)
[16:16] <happyaron> seb128: hey good, but super busy by moving home this week, haha
[16:16] <seb128> happyaron, moving city as well?
[16:16] <happyaron> GunnarHj: I'd prefer to track it at Debian BTS, LP is about a bit too noisy...
[16:16] <happyaron> seb128: nope, still at BJ
[16:16] <seb128> k
[16:17] <seb128> happyaron, have fun moving!
[16:17] <happyaron> seb128: :D
[16:18] <GunnarHj> happyaron: Are you saying that you want a Debian bug to add a single line which is useful for Ubuntu only?
[16:18] <happyaron> yes, for tracking purpose
[16:18] <happyaron> submit it as wishlist is not an abuse to Debian BTS
[16:21] <GunnarHj> happyaron: Sure, I can do that if you insist. Not much to track, though. All that needs to say is already in the patch comment.
[16:21] <Laney> if you have the change applied locally you can run 'submittodebian' to help you submit it
[16:22] <GunnarHj> Laney: Would that result in a pull request?
[16:22] <happyaron> GunnarHj: if you use salsas.d.o, a pull request might also work, ;-)
[16:22] <Laney> it'll make a bug report
[16:22] <Laney> with a debdiff
[16:22] <happyaron> Laney: hey man how are you
[16:23] <Laney> if you've checked out git then you can make a merge request easily too :-)
[16:23] <Laney> hey happyaron
[16:23] <Laney> I'm doing alright thanks!
[16:23] <Laney> looking forward to the weekend
[16:23] <GunnarHj> happyaron: Then a pull request it will be. ;)
[16:23] <Laney> what about you?
[16:24] <Laney> all packed up?
[16:25] <happyaron> Laney: almost, will move this Sunday
[16:26] <Laney> good luck
[16:27] <Laney> I always forget to tell some company my new details
[16:27] <jbicha> GunnarHj: libgweather switched to meson. As you might remember, it's an odd package because it has two pot files
[16:28] <jbicha> the locations pot file generation is a bit buggy, I opened LP: #1751261 today (see the upstream bug)
[16:28] <jbicha> does this look ok? https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/libgweather/commit/e4af319b
[16:29] <jbicha> it creates po-locations/locations.pot do you think we need to rename that pot or maybe it's ok now?
[16:43] <seb128> gQuigs, hey, do you think you would have some free slot to make a patch for the network-manager autopkgtest issue since you seem to understand the problem?
[16:46] <ricotz> oSoMoN, please finalize the 6.0 branch
[16:46] <ricotz> oSoMoN, I will take a look at the we to prepare it for 6.0.2
[16:48] <gQuigs> seb128: ideally, someone who cares more about the urfill use case would review to make sure my analysis makes sense, but sure I can make a patch for my suggestion
[16:49] <seb128> gQuigs, we don't seem to have anyone matching that description and meanwhile that update is stucked, that would be nice, thanks!
[16:49] <oSoMoN> ricotz, ok
[16:50] <ricotz> oSoMoN, will cherry-pick the orcus stuff for 6.0.2, which officially lands in 6.0.3
[16:52] <ricotz> oSoMoN, so please don't forget to push the 6.0 branch
[16:52] <oSoMoN> ricotz, done, the branch is all yours over the we-
[16:52] <oSoMoN> w-e *
[16:52] <jbicha> gQuigs: thanks :)
[16:53] <ricotz> oSoMoN, did you test the apparmor disabling patch?
[16:53] <ricotz> oSoMoN, I am not an expert in touch conffiles in /etc
[16:54] <ricotz> but I thought there are special debhelper ways for that
[16:54] <oSoMoN> ricotz, it's currently building in my lo-test PPA, will test as soon as it's built
[16:55] <oSoMoN> ricotz, I had the patch reviewed by Jamie from the security team though, so I'm fairly confident that it will work
[16:55] <ricotz> alrighty then
[16:56]  * oSoMoN logs out to try and reproduce a bug in the GNOME session
[17:21] <oSoMoN> I'm off to doing beers, have a great week-end everyone!
[17:56] <willcooke> oki, bandwidth all gone, nearly 6pm, I think it's time to give up for the week.  Have a good weekend all!
[17:57] <GunnarHj> jbicha: Any chance you can fix https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=793764 ?
[17:58] <jbicha> sudoku or to-do ? ;)
[17:59] <GunnarHj> jbicha: todo this time
[17:59] <jbicha> I'll take care of it and close the bug
[17:59] <GunnarHj> jbicha: Thanks!
[18:00] <jbicha> feel free to complain at Daniel though
[18:00] <jbicha> I've probably fixed that a dozen or more times across GNOME…
[18:00] <jbicha> it's a gtranslator bug but maybe he should pay attention too :)
[18:02] <GunnarHj> jbicha: Who is Daniel? Is there a bug report anywhere where I can add an angry comment? ;)
[18:03] <jbicha> Daniel is at https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-todo/commit/124c798d
[18:04] <jbicha> gtranslator bug is GNOME bug 771765
[18:05] <GunnarHj> jbicha: Ah, the translator who caused it. Yeah, he should know about it, but it's low priority right now.
[18:08] <jbicha> that particular mistake was a few years old, but it wasn't noticed in LP because the package only entered main now
[18:10] <GunnarHj> jbicha: Starting to understand. And only now I noticed that I files the bug against the wrong project. :( Thanks for fixing it!
[18:11] <jbicha> gnome-todo uses gitlab.gnome.org for bugs now
[18:11] <GunnarHj> jbicha: I started with trying to create an account there, but there was some server issue...
[18:16] <GunnarHj> jbicha: Just a late thought: You committed that directly to git master, right? Is there a risk that the erroneous file is still in damned lies, and that the problem will re-appear?
[19:16] <gQuigs> seb128: jbicha, still trying to test it properly, but something like this - https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/YtcfQJSqYn/
[19:16] <gQuigs> not sure if it really needed a debdiff/changelog...
[19:37] <gQuigs> test complete /me likes autopkgtest command, that made it pretty easy
[20:50] <seb128> gQuigs, thanks, I've called it a day for today but I put that on my todo to review
[20:56] <jbicha> gQuigs: does NM pass all of its autopkgtest with that patch?
[20:57] <gQuigs> jbicha: I ran autokpkgtests against the source.. which I think means yes
[20:57] <jbicha> ok, I'll go ahead and land it. If someone complains, they can handle NM next time ;)
[21:03] <gQuigs> jbicha: ty :)
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