[05:32] <carbm1> RudyValencia, that has to be the most complicated script to turn off your monitor I have ever seen. Very nice.
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> foul_owl:  you could make a button that launches some 'mediaplayer --pause' command
[05:32] <carbm1> RudyValencia, of course... I'm not much of a programmer myself.
[05:33] <carbm1> RudyValencia, you might have to give me some tips on a few of my own scripts.
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> foul_owl:  or some can read commands from fifo pipes.. and other fancy tricks
[05:33] <RudyValencia> Oh I hardly know bash scripting
[05:33] <foul_owl> Dr_Willis: Do you have a link to any sort of documentation about this? It has been hard to google for
[05:33] <v3rr3z> Alright.. Does Ubuntu have a Session window? I cant find it
[05:33] <RudyValencia> carbm1: I hardly know bash scripting; I just 'hacked it up' in a few minutes after reading how to code bash scripts.
[05:33] <jrtayloriv> I have an external USB harddrive. When I plug it in, two of the ext3 partitions are auto-mounted and appear on my Desktop. The first partition does not, and I have to mount it manually. How do I fix this and make it auto-mount as well?
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> foul_owl:  mplayer docs for mplayer.
[05:34] <carbm1> UltraVNC has the best VNC client... I have to run it in Wine on my Linux box.  I wish I could find a VNC client with scaling and password at the CLI that worked on Linux natively.
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> foul_owl:  i imagine vlc has similer options
[05:34] <sudobash> sh
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> carbm1:  'at the cli' huh?
[05:34] <RudyValencia> carbm1: I needed a Linux alternative to "MonSD" on the Windows side, so I hacked this up after figuring out how to make the monitor go into DPMS sleep mode.
[05:35] <knoppies> Dr_Willis, I think he is talking about the console/terminal/whatever the hell you want to call it.
[05:35] <v3rr3z> Any suggested programs i should install for Ubuntu
[05:35] <foul_owl> Dr_Willis: Even if just some c code about getting keypresses without focus
[05:35] <carbm1> Dr_Willis, yes.
[05:35] <genii> v3rr3z: ubuntu-restricted extras
[05:36] <foul_owl> thanks!
[05:36] <carbm1> Dr_Willis, command line interface.
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> foul_owl:  thats what 'input' triggers are all about.
[05:36] <greezmunkey> RudyValencia, you could post it in the forum, and ask for improvments there, I'm sure you'll get pleanty of responses! :)
[05:36] <knoppies> v3rr3z, if you have a decent graphics card, install Compizconfig settings manager
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> carbm1:  yes i know wht cli means.. but no idea what you are meaning by it...
[05:36] <RudyValencia> greezmunkey: thanks
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> carbm1:  but i guess it dosent matter much :) i will stick with tightvnc viewer for now
[05:37] <RudyValencia> what I want to do is make something similar, but with a GUI
[05:37] <jrtayloriv> I have an external USB harddrive. When I plug it in, two of the ext3 partitions are auto-mounted and appear on my Desktop. The first partition does not, and I have to mount it manually. How do I fix this and make it auto-mount as well?
[05:38] <carbm1> I need a vncviewer that accepted the password from the command.  Having to type in the password everytime you remote a machine is annoying.  I have about 600 computers at work and it gets annoying jumping from one to another and having to type in the password each time.
[05:38] <arwen> For my ipod I'm going to use Banshee which size do I download?
[05:38] <darolu> jrtayloriv: what's in your fstab file?
[05:38] <darolu> /etc/fstab*
[05:39] <denis123> Hi. I uninstalled my included ATI Hardware Driver to install a newer version (which stuffed up even more). How can I re-install the version that comes with Ubuntu by default (ie: the one found under System > Admin > Hardware Drivers). Thanks!
[05:39] <jrtayloriv> darolu, http://pastebin.ca/1795063
[05:40] <jrtayloriv> darolu, The external drive is /dev/sdc
[05:40] <jrtayloriv> sdc2 and sdc3 are auto-mounting fine, just not sdc1
[05:40] <RudyValencia> Is there a program similar to MonSD (http://lumisade.com/monsd/) for Linux?
[05:40] <arwen> Which size should I use for my ipod?
[05:41] <darolu> jrtayloriv: open a terminal and type: "sudo blkid sdc1" copy the UUID number, you'll need to add it to your fstab file
[05:41] <carbm1> denis123, I have good luck using envy.  From the software center search for "envyng". It should let you pick a version. Just easier in my opinion.
[05:41] <RudyValencia> (one that puts an icon in the tray that, whwn clicked, counts down a specified number of seconds, and then puts the display into DPMS standby)?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> envy is still around?  :) been ages sine ive seen it mentioned
[05:41] <denis123> carbml: ok i'll look into it
[05:41] <DaemonFC> arwen, What do you mean "which size?"?
[05:42] <darolu> jrtayloriv: then type: gksu gedit /etc/fstab to edit your file
[05:42] <jrtayloriv> darolu, blkid sdc1 gives no output
[05:42] <v3rr3z> Nifty effects
[05:42] <darolu> jrtayloriv: did you run it with sudo?
[05:43] <arwen> It's 3.6 mib 18.7 kib and 2.4 kib
[05:43] <denis123> carbm1: I installed and clicked it. I don't think it did anything how does it work?
[05:43] <DaemonFC> arwen, Rhythmbox supports ipods, you just need to enable the plug-in
[05:43] <darolu> jrtayloriv: oh my bad, it is "sudo blkid /dev/sdc1"
[05:43] <arwen> pk
[05:43] <jrtayloriv> darolu, Nevermind -- no I was being stupid
[05:43] <arwen> ok
[05:43] <jrtayloriv> darolu, oh there you go beat me to it :)
[05:44] <arwen> How do I enable the plug in?
[05:44] <jrtayloriv> darolu, Thanks for your help -- yes, I just copied what you had said without thinking. I saw error shortly after -- appreciate it
[05:44] <carbm1> denis123, Open Terminal and type "sudo envy"
[05:44] <greezmunkey> carbm1, have you checked into VNC Central?
[05:44] <greezmunkey> carbm1, look here: http://vnccentral.sourceforge.net/
[05:44] <darolu> jrtayloriv: is ok; do your sdc1 has a label or a name you would like to use?
[05:45] <DaemonFC> arwen, Edit/Plugins/Portable Players-ipod, make sure it's checked
[05:45] <DaemonFC> if it is, it should detect it when you plug the ipod into the USB port
[05:45] <carbm1> denis123, I'm sorry. Thats "sudo envyng -t"
[05:45] <bullgard> How to switch on the participation on  popularity contest?
[05:45] <darolu> jrtayloriv: you'll need to create a directory to mount your harddrive inside /media; to do this do "sudo mkdir /media/yourdirectoryname"
[05:46] <denis123> carbm1: ok working. Thanks :) Hopefully this'll get compiz to work :)
[05:46] <carbm1> greezmunkey, Looking into it....
[05:46] <jrtayloriv> darolu, yes, I've got it from here. I appreciate it.
[05:46] <darolu> jryatloriv: OK
[05:46] <arwen> Ok it sees the ipod
[05:47] <Rawxor> just installed 9.10 on an acer revo something or other - having problems with sound in flash (i've used alsamixer to set all channel levels to 100% and unmute them) - i've done this a billion times but i can't figure out why i don't have sound in flash... any ideas?
[05:48] <arwen> Do I click ok? (to open with Rhythm box)
[05:50] <bullgard> !sound  |  Rawxor
[05:50] <IdleOne> bullgard: in Software Sources in the Statistics tab
[05:52] <denis123> carbm1: I installed the driver via envyng
[05:52] <joebodo> Rawxor, if your on 64 bit, you could try the 64 bit flash
[05:52] <carbm1> denis123, easy huh?
[05:53] <denis123> now I get this error when starting: (EE) Unable to initialize PC database, (EE) Missing PCS default file /etc/ati/amdpcsdb.default, (EE) No devices detected
[05:53] <realcoolguy> general question since flash is a current topic, did the low framerate/stutter problem get fixed?
[05:53] <denis123> carbm1: that's happened before though with these drivers
[05:54] <bullgard> IdleOne: Thank you for your help.
[05:54] <IdleOne> bullgard: welcome
[05:54] <carbm1> I hate trying to get video drivers working in Linux.  Unforunately I don't have any suggestions.
[05:55] <denis123> carbm1: I ran compiz check. This is what it says: http://pastebin.com/m39ac2807
[05:55] <denis123> kk
[05:55] <q0_0p> is it possible to use a camera for webcam like usage?
[05:55] <q0_0p> just wondering
[05:55] <keepsake> q0_0p: Depends on the camera
[05:56] <q0_0p> keepsake, what about a fujifilm Z3?
[05:56] <keepsake> q0_0p: Most of them can't, I've owned one that can; if you camera is capable it will have the mode built-in.
[05:56] <q0_0p> keepsake, cool thx
[05:56] <keepsake> q0_0p: If it doesn't have a webcam/PC-cam mode built in it won't work
[05:56] <q0_0p> keepsake, good to know thx
[05:57] <greezmunkey> denis123, look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=960393
[05:57] <TerryNova> Hi everybody
[05:59] <TerryNova> So I just got my dedicated server set up and was wondering if its possible to setup a desktop enviroment using nx?
[06:01] <Guest18394> im on xubuntu how do i get compiz enabled?
[06:01] <gerrin> having major problems with my panels, could really use help
[06:01] <genii> Guest18394: Perhaps enquire in their channel, #xubuntu
[06:02] <q0_0p> Guest18394, download simple-ccsm?
[06:02] <greezmunkey> TerryNova, I found a blog post that may be helpful: http://michigantelephone.wordpress.com/2007/10/15/how-to-install-nx-server-and-client-under-ubuntukubuntu-linux/
[06:02] <coz_> gerrin,  what is the problem?
[06:02] <q0_0p> Guest18394, sudo apt-cache search simple-ccsm
[06:02] <ZykoticK9> TerryNova, you might also be interested in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[06:03] <gerrin> the applications/places/and system tabs that were on my top panel, are now missing and i dont know how or where they went lol
[06:03] <coz_> gerrin,  ok is there naything else on the dock?
[06:03] <TerryNova> wow thanks man, found my error
[06:03] <carbm1> gerrin, Have you done very much customizing of your panels? Its possible to reset them back to defaults if you haven't.
[06:04] <gerrin> no not really, hardly any at all
[06:04] <gerrin> how do i reset to default
[06:04] <ZykoticK9> gerrin, right click on panel / Add to Panel -- use either Main Menu or Menu Bar < not sure
[06:04] <coz_> gerrin, menu bar
[06:04] <IdleOne> !panels | gerrin
[06:04] <denis123> Hi. I'm having troubles with ATI drivers and getting Compiz to work (when running on ATI driver i have to boot into low graphics mode). The output of Compiz-check is here: http://pastebin.com/m39ac2807
[06:05] <coz_> denis123,  go into the #compiz channel and talk with soreau
[06:05] <gerrin> ok im gonna sound like a newb, but how do i get in the terminal
[06:05] <coz_> gerrin,   right click the panel   add to panel    manu bar
[06:05] <denis123> coz_: ok will do. Thanks
[06:05] <greezmunkey> denis123, did the URL I posted help any?
[06:05] <coz_> gerrin,  or   alt+f2     gnome-terminal
[06:05] <mbhagya> gerrin: accessories -> terminal
[06:06] <denis123> greezmunkey: sorry I didn't see. I must have restarted. Can you post the URL again? Sorry
[06:06] <carbm1> gerrin, I would try what coz_ is telling you.  Its probably good to know how to add it back manually.  Reseting it is sometimes just easier.
[06:06] <gerrin> i figured it out, thanks guys
[06:06] <greezmunkey> denis123, look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=960393
[06:07] <coz_> gerrin,  what did you figure out to do?
[06:07] <denis123> greezmunkey: will do. Thanks!
[06:07] <greezmunkey> denis123, the posts there are a bit scattered, but there is some good info there.
[06:08] <gerrin> what you said coz
[06:08] <denis123> greezmunkey, ok thanks!
[06:08] <gerrin> preciate it
[06:09] <gerrin> now i just need to know how to arrange stuff in the panel so i can have it all where i want it lol
[06:09] <carbm1> gerrin, I've totally fubar'd my panels trying to do just that. I've had it so messed up it was just easier to start over... Glad you got it fixed.
[06:10] <gerrin> then ill just keep it like it is then, no moving for me lol
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> this is where you realize that kde4's panel system is a little handier in many ways
[06:11] <joebodo> not sure how you can mess up a panel by moving thngs - ive never had issues
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> You can get them moved so close they are a pain to move back :)
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> or pack it so tight
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel
[06:11] <carbm1> or locked vrs unlocked and things moving around.
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> that gnome-shell totally sort of kicks the panel concept in the head. Not much panel to it, (yet)
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> I still miss the old windowmaker dock/warf methods
[06:12] <clone1018> How do I make a program start when the computer starts?
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> clone1018:  depends on what program.
[06:13] <carbm1> clone1018, before a user logins or after?
[06:13] <clone1018> a terminal program such as apache or unreal
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> clone1018:  then theres start at boot.. vs start at  login
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> clone1018:  easy way.. add command to /etc/rc.local
[06:13] <clone1018> start at boot if possible
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> clone1018:  webserver should allready be starting
[06:13] <clone1018> ya
[06:13] <clone1018> it was an example
[06:14] <drumhed> any e16 users in here?  i have a question about configuration
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> theres actual 'services' ran by upstart/sysv then thers extra commands/tweakd in rc.local
[06:19] <greezmunkey> g'night all
[06:21] <datz> Hi I was wondering if there is anyway to set a pic for the background of a terminal, and have it act as a trasparent terminal would if the desktop wallpaper were the same as the terminal background.  Basically I have a transparent terminal, but don't like seeing the icons.
[06:21] <datz> on my desktop
[06:21] <chester_copperpo> anyone know how to change default file manager in xfce4
[06:22] <Flannel> datz: you can set a background image for your terminal window, yes
[06:22] <drumhed> datz - i can give you some ideas that might help
[06:23] <datz> Flannel, drumhed, when I try to set the same background image for the terminal as the desktop, it cuts it up into smaller images
[06:23] <datz> (not really) but that's what it looks like
[06:23] <datz> drumhed: what are the ideas?
[06:24] <drumhed> i misread your question
[06:24] <datz> ok
[06:24] <drumhed> datz: you might find your answer by setting "style" to "centered"
[06:25] <carbm1> night all
[06:25] <datz> drumhed: I don't see that option in the terminal background tab
[06:26] <datz> I swear in the past I had a terminal set to transparent, and the desktop items didn't bleed through
[06:26] <datz> I've even seized my desktop background so that the terminal doesn't repeat it, but there are still problems
[06:27] <chester_copperpo> datz, check online for a tut. ive seen what you want to do before
[06:27] <datz> chester_copperpo: ok, I'll look, thanks
[06:27] <chester_copperpo> your terminal is probably embeded in the desktop
[06:27] <drumhed> datz : what enviroment are you using (e.g.: kde, gnome, xfce, etc..)
[06:27] <drumhed> >
[06:27] <datz> drumhed: gnome
[06:27] <aetaric> i have a graphics issue involving compiz. I installed 9.10 fresh and compiz was working. after a reboot it won't let me use it
[06:28] <chester_copperpo> aetaric, are you using a KVM?
[06:28] <knoppies> chester_copperpo, he just quit.
[06:29] <datz> I'll try rescaling the wallpaper again and see what the problem with that was
[06:30] <chester_copperpo> what does irc message  " :cannot send to channel" mean?
[06:30]  * Hamlin is now away: Detatched, leave a message.
[06:31] <datz> chester_copperpo: is your nick registered and identified?
[06:31] <aetaric> >.< silly xchat
[06:31] <chester_copperpo> nope
[06:31] <datz> chester_copperpo: that's probably the problem
[06:31] <chester_copperpo> datz thanks
[06:31] <datz> np
[06:31] <aetaric> so yeah. compiz problem
[06:31] <chester_copperpo> do you know the command?
[06:32] <datz>  /msg nickserv help
[06:32] <chester_copperpo> aetaric, do you have 2 monitors?
[06:32] <aetaric> yes
[06:32] <chester_copperpo> try unplugging one
[06:32] <aetaric> them being mirrored stops it?
[06:32] <chester_copperpo> aetaric, driver issue
[06:32] <aetaric> i see
[06:32] <chester_copperpo> just try it with one moniter and see if it works
[06:33] <chester_copperpo> they are probably not being config with the right resolutions
[06:34] <chester_copperpo> im out. bye
[06:34] <rothsdad>  i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T8100 @ 2.10GHz GenuineIntel, can I use KVM?
[06:34] <chester_copperpo> rothsdad, yeah
[06:34] <rothsdad> chester_copperpo: really?
[06:35] <chester_copperpo> why wouldnt you?
[06:35] <aetaric> should i reboot?
[06:35] <rothsdad> chester_copperpo: my cpu isn't on the list that can use kvm
[06:35] <chester_copperpo> the only issue you have to watch for is when you boot into X, sometimes the kvm screws up the monitor detection..
[06:35] <chester_copperpo> we are talking keyboard, video, mouse right?
[06:36] <kangkung> rothsdad : u can use KVM, try it
[06:36] <rothsdad> kangkung: ok, i'll have a try
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> KVM has so many different meanings.. :)
[06:36] <ZykoticK9> datz, if you want a terminal with transparency (but without true transparency) you might want to check out eterm or aterm < both a rather old school compared to gnome-terminal though
[06:37] <kangkung> rothsdad : i ever use KVM for sempron 3000+ and work
[06:37] <datz> ZykoticK9: ok, I'll check them out thanks
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> i use syngery for a software KVM sort of thing.. :)
[06:37] <catzz> Hello is there any program to edit PDF formats?
[06:38] <datz> I just resized the image to 1650 x 1080 and set the same background for the desktop and termial, but for some reason it doesn't want to match up. (install eterm now)
[06:39] <chester_copperpo> catzz, openoffice ?
[06:39] <kangkung> catzz : i use open source linux pdf writer
[06:39] <eli7777> hey i'm wanting a program that will let me do Q9 text input. like a cell phone. is there a program of mod i canuse to do with?
[06:39] <ZykoticK9> chester_copperpo, does openoffice edit PDFs?  i know you can export to PDF, but can you really edit them?
[06:39] <catzz>  yes i know but i recieved CV in PDF format how to edit it?
[06:40] <coz_> eli7777,  ooo that one I dont know
[06:40] <datz> ZykoticK9: how do I start eterm?
[06:40] <chester_copperpo> ZykoticK9, i thought it did, but then again its to bloated for me so i usually skip it.
[06:40] <ZykoticK9> datz, it Eterm
[06:40] <eli7777> lol. hey if t was ez i wouldnt be asking
[06:40] <datz> ok
[06:40] <datz> thanks
[06:41] <catzz> ?
[06:41] <FeasibilityStudy> God I hate upstart.
[06:41] <chester_copperpo> catzz, google is your friend
[06:41] <catzz> uhu thanks! :D
[06:41] <ZykoticK9> FeasibilityStudy, ya fast bootups are such a drag
[06:41] <catzz> How to set VLC media player as standart player
[06:42] <eli7777> well i have been trying to play with a few things to make it work. myth has something like a want but i dont know how i can use it in gnome
[06:42] <kangkung> eli7777 : try to use Condor cluster
[06:42] <renegaid> are there any gui benchmark utilities
[06:42] <zoran119> looking at ubuntu /home permissions... it seems that by default anyone can read my files... is this normal?
[06:42] <chester_copperpo> catzz, what window manager are you using?
[06:42] <datz> ZykoticK9: hey look, that works perfectly. I guess it's not "true" transparency
[06:42] <datz> ZykoticK9: thanks
[06:42] <ZykoticK9> datz, glad it worked for ya
[06:42] <chester_copperpo> catzz, i mean, desktop environment.
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> zoran119:  yes i think so
[06:43] <FeasibilityStudy> ZykoticK9: its not that, it's that I dont know how to configure it
[06:43] <zoran119> Dr_Willis: that's bad! why is that?
[06:43] <datz> ZykoticK9: one more thing, how can I run it without output. I don't want to run it in screen. Something like Eterm -q?
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> zoran119:  change it if you want.., its not really 'bad'
[06:44] <ZykoticK9> FeasibilityStudy, i was just joking with you (i understand you frustration if you're trying to add/customize something) - BUT the fast bootup times are made possible by Upstart so to say you Hate it is kinda harsh
[06:44] <eli7777> kangkung, what condor clusters home page?
[06:44] <ZykoticK9> datz, why not create a launcher for it in the menus?
[06:45] <datz> ZykoticK9: good idea
[06:45] <maitraya> Hi everyone, I have a question to ask you..
[06:45] <datz> also -q is a no input option :)
[06:45] <maitraya> I'm new to ubuntu
[06:46] <kangkung> eli7777 : search at google dude..
[06:46] <datz> Eterm has a pretty long man file. :P
[06:46] <zcat[1]> !ask | maitraya
[06:46] <maitraya> Can I modify ubuntu (i.e. create my own mod OS) and redistribute it?
[06:46] <eli7777> i am but i have no use for a cluster. i was hoping you were going tell me something useful
[06:47] <zcat[1]> maitraya:  yes but you probably can't call it 'ubuntu'
[06:47] <eli7777> i am trying to set this up for an in-car pc
[06:47] <ZykoticK9> maitraya, so long as you release the source code to all your changes (and don't use any of the Ubuntu/Canonical artwork logos etc)
[06:47] <maitraya> ok. But can you name any software which can do that?
[06:47] <zcat[1]> maitraya:  eg 'mint' is a modified ubuntu (and ubuntu is a modified debian...)
[06:47] <aetaric> i'm trying to get compiz working again on my radeon 9600 i have only one monitor plugged in.
[06:48] <soreau> aetaric: Please come to #compiz and I will help you.
[06:48] <geekyogi> is it possible to set sleep and shutdown timers manually ... the gnome-power-manager doesnt allow users to hard code the low and critically low battery levels
[06:48] <qwertyjustin> hey alll. Just looking to try and play a run of the mill dvd in ubuntu
[06:48] <qwertyjustin> any ideas
[06:49] <zcat[1]> maitraya:  Ubuntu Customization Kit?
[06:49] <qwertyjustin> vlc wont play a dvd disc
[06:49] <almark> hello how do I make use of dual monitor setup with xorg.conf in ubuntu?
[06:49] <almark> I'm sorry without because its not there
[06:49] <maitraya> Any software which can customize ubuntu screens, logons so that I can repack it  for my own OS.
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> almark:  what vid card?
[06:49] <almark> Dr_Willis_ Nvidia and Ati
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> !remaster | maitraya
[06:49] <zcat[1]> maitraya:  rebuilding all the packages is HARD WORK ...
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> almark:  you have a system with 2 video cards an Nvidia AND an ati?
[06:50] <ZykoticK9> qwertyjustin, have you installed libdvdread4 and run the script?
[06:50] <maitraya> ubottu: thanks
[06:50] <almark> Dr_Willis_ Its enabled my Nvidia but I really don't want ot copy over the xorg because Ubuntu does things differently
[06:50] <almark> Dr_Willis_ correct
[06:50] <qwertyjustin> ZykoticK9: no not yet, i'll give that a try now. synaptic package mngr?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> almark:   it might be doable.. bt ive no idea on mixing ati and nvidia. Im suprised the pc dosent blow itself aart with  the 2 diffrent cards in there. :)
[06:51] <ZykoticK9> qwertyjustin, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats for more info
[06:51] <maitraya> I just want to customize thmees, wallpapers and logon screnns. I just want to install new softwares I use and repack it.
[06:51] <ZykoticK9> qwertyjustin, are you using Karmic?
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> almark:  with just nvidia - it should be easy. but no idea on how ati would mix into it
[06:51] <qwertyjustin> jaunty
[06:51] <almark> Dr_Willis_ I do it all the time in windows and have that setup running in Debian ;)
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> almark:  the debian xorg.conf should work then.
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> 'should'
[06:51] <ZykoticK9> qwertyjustin, then instead you need to add the medibuntu repository and install libdvdcss2
[06:51] <maitraya> What are the qualifications to be a MOTU?
[06:51] <almark> Dr_Willis_ well then I guess I'll have to use my xorg.conf already configured but does that hurt a Ubuntu system?
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> almark:  i dont see how it could hurt.
[06:52] <qwertyjustin> oh right
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> almark:  most of xorg auto configures these days anyway
[06:52] <renegaid> are there any gui benchmarking tools?
[06:52] <almark> Dr_Willis_ thanks, and what my other problem is how do you make a window drag from screen to screen, all I can drag are files only is there a way
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> almark:  huh? With nvidia and xinerama/twinview my desktop is one WIDE desktop covering both monitors.
[06:53] <almark> Dr_Willis_ I read somewhere about Xrimera or whatever that can do that
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> almark:  or you coud set up 2 seperate X displays.. but i never do it that way
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> almark:  i always use xinerama and twinview
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> almark:  sounds like you have 2 seperate X displays setup
[06:54] <almark> Dr_Willis_ lol that is basicially what I have here to seperate displays on one computer its like 2 computers which isn't what I need
[06:54] <papsh> renegaid, tools for benchmarking guis, or gui frontends for benchmarking?
[06:54] <qwertyjustin> yep infact, added the medibuntu repositroy and installed libdvdcss2
[06:54] <qwertyjustin> what from there
[06:54] <almark> Dr_Willis_ yep that is what it is, ok should I just apt-get install xinerama?
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> nvidia has 'twinview' thats its xinerama replacement.. ati i think has somthing similar also
[06:54] <renegaid> tools for benchmarking with a gui. not those command line nonsense
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> xinerama is a X FEATURE. not a program
[06:55] <maitraya> I am a high school student and want to be a part of MOTU team. What are my qualifications?
[06:55] <almark> Dr_Willis_ for my Ati card and it being 10 years old I can't use the propertatiry drivers
[06:55] <almark> Dr_Willis_ I suppose I could install the official Nvidia for my MX200
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> almark:  you may  to do some research/tweaking then. and be lucky
[06:55] <renegaid> I want to see how fast my raid disk is with ubuntu
[06:55] <almark> Dr_Willis_ ok thanks again well see how this works out
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> the fact you are not using the fglrx driver for hte ati card may make using the nvidia stuff easier
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> a gui to show  # is so much better then a command line.. :)
[06:56] <rww> maitraya: the MOTU team's channel is #ubuntu-motu. Perhaps ask there.
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> renegaid:  theres a few benchmarking suites out there for linjux now. I dont use any. so cant even rember the names
[06:56] <almark> Dr_Willis_ yeah I have tried forever to install the fglrx driver never works because my card isn't support by ati anymore for future editions of xorg
[06:57] <renegaid> been googling no results
[06:57] <reto`> almark: maybe xinerama is going to work anyway?
[06:57]  * almark loves command line
[06:57] <reto`> !xinerama
[06:57] <almark> reto_ i'm going to try it right now :)
[06:57] <tucemiux> i am attempting to auto mount a partition encrypted with cryptsetup luks format but it doesnt auto mount, I can manually mount by clicking on the partiton in "places->", what am I doing wrong? I am following this guide: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/08/17/7-steps-to-an-encrypted-partition-local-or-removable-disk/
[06:57] <almark> that'll do it :)
[07:01] <almark> reto_ it says here on the site you gave me talking about using 2 Nvidia cards or 2 ati cards not 1 and 1 ati and nvidia, is there a way to make them one screen like in windows?
[07:02] <hotbitch> 
[07:04] <bullgard> How are defined the categories which the popularity contest defined?
[07:05] <bullgard> How are defined the categories which the popularity contest uses?
[07:05] <theadmin> What's a segmentation fault?
[07:05] <Flannel> bullgard: I don't believe there are categories, but you can browse the data yourself: http://popcon.ubuntu.com/
[07:06] <Flannel> theadmin: Its when a program tries to access something it shouldn't
[07:06] <bullgard> theadmin: Roughly: When a program does not respect rules for storage subdivision and overrides storage which is reserved for other data.
[07:06] <theadmin> I see. Thanks, Flannel, bullgard
[07:07] <theadmin> Hrm. How to restart metacity without logging out?
[07:08] <sirspyr0> hello everyone
[07:08] <sirspyr0> is anyone by any chance experienced with the b43 drivers for broadcom 4311?
[07:08] <sirspyr0> i've been recieving very mixed information
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  meticity --replace
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  metacity --replace
[07:10] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: thanks.
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  try the fusion-icon tool if you want to change meatcity/compiz a lot
[07:11] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Er, now it won't let me close the terminal cause there is a "process running"
[07:11] <genii> alt-f2 metacity --replace
[07:11] <The> .
[07:12] <Guest5768> giwtww
[07:13] <sirspyr0> anyone know anything about the b43 wlan drivers?
[07:13] <bullgard> Flannel: There are. At least 3: having no tag, RECENT-CTIME, and NOFILES.  --  Please tell me what RECENT-CTIME and what NOFILES means.
[07:14] <LMJ> Hello the chan
[07:14] <LMJ> Is there anyone would could help me out with this issue plz http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8796104
[07:14] <theadmin> Interesting. The "System" menu has an icon for gnome-control-center, but it's hidden by default...
[07:15] <nomad77> !ask |sirspyr0
[07:15] <Archanamiya> Hello. I'm trying to start an X session, which goes fine, except for the fact that the new x-session always has an xterm in it, which I don't want. Closing it causes the whole X-session to close. What can I do?
[07:15] <qwertyjustin> hey do u guys know if its possible to get a command line shell placed @ the bottom of conky?
[07:16] <theadmin> Archanamiya: How do you start it?
[07:16] <Archanamiya> theadmin, "xinit -- :2"
[07:16] <theadmin> Archanamiya: For me, startx goes fine, no terminals show up.
[07:16] <Archanamiya> hmm
[07:16] <Archanamiya> 1 second
[07:17] <Archanamiya> heh
[07:17] <Archanamiya> theadmin, then it starts another ubuntu-session. I want just a blank x-session
[07:17] <theadmin> Archanamiya: Oh.
[07:18] <zcat[1]> Archanamiya:  "X"
[07:18] <Archanamiya> zcat[1], what do you mean
[07:18] <theadmin> Archanamiya: He means, run "X".
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> qwertyjustin:  i doubt if thats possible
[07:19] <zcat[1]> From memory you chouls be able to just type "X" (upeprcase) at a root prompt to start an X server.. byt not something I've tried recently
[07:19] <qwertyjustin> Dr shit
[07:19] <Archanamiya> zcat[1], I need to start it on :2 though
[07:19] <zcat[1]> (might not even need to be a root prompt, depends on permissions and stuff..)
[07:19] <nomad77> sounds like twm. try xinit /usr/bin/<window-manager-name-here> -- :2
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> qwertyjustin:  ive seen other 'root' terminals embeded in the desktop in the past.
[07:19] <Archanamiya> Hey wait a sec
[07:20] <qwertyjustin> niice
[07:20] <reto`> Archanamiya: startx starts another ubuntu session?
[07:20] <qwertyjustin> there we go
[07:20] <Archanamiya> reto`, yes sir
[07:20] <qwertyjustin> how might i go about that
[07:20] <Archanamiya> zcat[1], X :2 worked
[07:20] <Archanamiya> Cheers
[07:20] <zcat[1]> startx is a script that starts a server _and_ a windows manager..
[07:20] <zcat[1]> they only wanted the server
[07:21] <Archanamiya> Ya
[07:21] <Archanamiya> Thanks again everyone :)
[07:21] <nomnex> do I need a package to pass the command suid, sgid on a default karmic?
[07:21] <zcat[1]> damn slow iso download <20K/s
[07:21] <Archanamiya> :S
[07:21] <reto`> I guess startx will do what xinitrc contains (or .xinitrc)
[07:22] <nomnex> ? wrong command to set user id? > No command 'suid' found, did you mean:
[07:23] <ekok> ekok
[07:23] <thevishy> my laptop battery icon is not displaying properly , its saying fully charged while it is being dischrged
[07:23] <thevishy> and it shows 0% in the laptop battery parameter
[07:25] <nomnex> I guess, I have it all wrong, if you can explain suid/sgid commands and syntaxes please
[07:25] <thevishy> can i just refresh the battery icon to show propery values , like kill the process and start it ?
[07:26] <theadmin> I want to write a script that will ask for an app name via Zenity, and start it in terminal as root... So far, I wrote "zenity --entry | gnome-terminal -e "sudo""... But how to get the user output there?
[07:26] <catzz> hello how to make VLC as standart video player?
[07:26] <theadmin> catzz: System - Preferences - Preffered Applications
[07:27] <catzz> ty!
[07:27] <catzz> o what is command to launch VKC?
[07:27] <catzz> VLC?
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> catzz:  err.. 'vlc'  :)
[07:28] <axon> does anyone can explain me how to add bots in the game sauerbraten in a multiplayergame?
[07:28] <axon> ?
[07:28] <catzz> xD i thought that it will be too easy for linux XD
[07:28] <ekok> hallo .........
[07:28] <axon> my brother and i tried it with /addbot 50 but it doesn't work
[07:29] <axon> @ ekok : hallo
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> catzz:  if it followed ms guidelines it would be like 'video lan client media player supreme light basic home premium.exe'
[07:29] <jazz> can any one please help me? i need the ppa for virtual box. 32bit for karmic.
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> jazz:  i just saw that in the ubuntu-tweak tool . but no idea what the ppa is.
[07:30] <thevishy> Willis is there way to refresh the battery icon ? I t is showing wrong data
[07:30] <theadmin> axon: That is offtopic
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> thevishy:  Never noticed it wrong. never tried
[07:30] <silv3r_m00n> is ubuntu comfortable with amd phenom x4 ?
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> axon:  check the games homepage perhaps
[07:30] <theadmin> jazz: I don't think Oracle/Sun have made one
[07:30] <papsh> silv3r_m00n, why wouldn't it be?
[07:30] <silv3r_m00n> fine
[07:30] <thevishy> OK I guess I will try with a restart probaby
[07:30] <jazz> Dr_Willis, yeah i got part of it but then when i up date i keep getting an error
[07:31] <theadmin> jazz: Oh wait. Add this to software sources: deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian karmic non-free
[07:31] <axon> thx, but i allready checkt the games homepage (@Dr_Willis / theadmin)
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> jazz:   i just normally get the deb from the vbox homepage.
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> axon:  if its not in the docs,. or forum for the game,, how do you know it can do it at all.
[07:31] <jazz> theadmin,  i have that part.  keeps giving me an error
[07:31] <theadmin> jazz: What error?
[07:32] <jazz> theadmin,  sec ill tell you
[07:32] <bullgard> popularity-contest tags some programs  with the tag <RECENT-CTIME>, and others with <NOFILES>.  --  Please tell me what RECENT-CTIME and what NOFILES means.
[07:33] <jazz> theadmin, the folling signatures couldn't be verified cuz the public key is not available
[07:33] <axon> Dr_Willis: cause on there page they write about an existing command /addbot [Level]
[07:34] <theadmin> jazz: Did you add the public key? Run "wget -q http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/sun_vbox.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -"
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> axon:  check their forums  i guess. or see if they got a irc chat room
[07:34] <jazz> theadmin,  hmm lemme look
[07:34] <theadmin> jazz: Then, do "sudo apt-get update"
[07:36] <jazz> theadmin,  add that to the software resources?
[07:36] <genii> axon: "You must either be master or playing locally to add or remove bots. " http://sauerbraten.org/docs/game.html#bots section 10
[07:37] <prizer> Hey guys, I've never used IRC before. Can anyone see this?
[07:37] <theadmin> prizer: Yes
[07:37] <genii> prizer: We can
[07:37] <theadmin> jazz: Just run that in terminal
[07:37] <prizer> Ok, sorry to bug you. Thanks guys.
[07:37] <prizer> So how goes the Ubuntu night?
[07:37] <rocky123> hiiiiiiiiii
[07:37] <Flannel> bullgard: http://popcon.debian.org/README  search for "tag" and it'll give descriptions of the tags
[07:37] <theadmin> prizer: That is quite offtopic, this is a support channel
[07:37] <goddard> where can i learn about hex editing? does anyone know of any rooms?
[07:37] <reto`> prizer: it's morning here...
[07:38] <prizer> I can't say hello and ask people how they are? Really!?!
[07:38] <reto`> prizer: there's so much support going on... you see? ;)
[07:39] <theadmin> prizer: Well, often after it people start talking about how they are, instead of helping others out which floods the channel. You can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[07:39] <goddard> where can i learn about hex editing? does anyone know of any rooms?
[07:39] <prizer> Ok.
[07:39] <theadmin> !repeat | goddard
[07:40] <goddard> thank you theadmin
[07:40] <goddard> may i have another :D
[07:40] <theadmin> goddard: Another what? o_O
[07:40] <goddard> chat room spanking
[07:41] <jazz> theadmin,  i still get
[07:41] <jazz> theadmin, W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 6AF0E1940624A220
[07:42] <theadmin> jazz: err, that is not related to virtualbox, virtualbox don't use a Launchpad PPA system
[07:42] <jazz> theadmin,  hmm that was the lasthing i installed
[07:43] <eshannon> hello everyone
[07:43] <eshannon> I seem to have a problem with my Internet connection on my Ubuntu 810 box. All other boxes in the house are running great
[07:43] <jazz> theadmin,  so how do i find out which is causing that error?
[07:43] <theadmin> jazz: Hm, don't know %) Let me try to see who this key belongs to
[07:44] <papsh> theadmin, that smiley face %) looks like an insane man
[07:44] <jazz> theadmin,  yeah that too for future ref. im new so i have no clue what it was
[07:45] <jazz> theadmin, least im not the only one with said error...8/
[07:46] <Ziggyzxxyl> If I install ubuntu on to a computer for a friend, is there any way to install it without entering a username, password and user details, and have the computer prompt the new owner for these details?
[07:46] <theadmin> jazz: "gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 6AF0E1940624A220 && gpg --export --armor 6AF0E1940624A220 | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update"
[07:46] <Spinaker1> is the next release of Ubuntu going to be called Bukkake? I heard it will be....
[07:46] <theadmin> Ziggyzxxyl: It can be changed later. But no, there is no way.
[07:46] <theadmin> Spinaker: The next release is Lucid Lynx
[07:47] <theadmin> Spinaker1: ^
[07:47] <jazz> theadmin,  what key was it to?
[07:47] <Spinaker1> I met a hooker on Canal Street called Lynx once
[07:47] <Spinaker1> she had a penis
[07:47] <bob-has-an-imgbo> hi, omg plz help, SUDDENLY only root can write on my xD-flash-card AND i CAn't change the permissions, do you want fstab pasted?
[07:48] <eto> hello
[07:48] <theadmin> jazz: I still have no idea wth it is but this is the solution I found on forums
[07:48] <Flannel> Spinaker1: Please behave
[07:48] <Spinaker1> is this network running unreal?
[07:48] <bob-has-an-imgbo> help plz help me
[07:48] <eto> i have a problem with intel graphics the machine runs ubuntu 8.10 lspci string for the device is 82845g
[07:48] <theadmin> !help | bob-has-an-imgbo
[07:48] <Spinaker1> last time i admin'd a network i ran unreal 3.2.6
[07:48] <bob-has-an-imgbo> i asked
[07:49] <bob-has-an-imgbo>  hi, omg plz help, SUDDENLY only root can write on my xD-flash-card AND i CAn't change the permissions, do you want fstab pasted?
[07:49] <Flannel> Spinaker1: This channel is for Ubuntu support, not ircd questions, please help it stay ontopic, thanks.
[07:49] <bob-has-an-imgbo> i can't change the permissions although i try to change the permission as root
[07:49] <theadmin> bob-has-an-imgbo: My point is, don't scream "please help" and such, this is not gonna get the problem solved faster. If nobody can help nobody will reply.
[07:49] <eto> anybody has an idea? X blinks to vesa gmode and back to console several times then shows a resolution selection, on which if anything is clicked makes the screen go blank for good
[07:49] <bob-has-an-imgbo> best thing: the xD-card is formatted in fat16
[07:49] <papsh> bob-has-an-imgbo, do you have the user option in fstab?
[07:50] <cvd_> my desktop freeze, how to reset desktop, wiht out log out?
[07:50] <bob-has-an-imgbo> @papshUUID=D8E3-67A6	/media/16mb-xd-karte	vfat	users,auto,rw,sync,dev	0	0
[07:50] <coppelman> wow any 1 know how to reset every thang cause i tryed to add theams and stuff and now im scorud i have to close tabs cant move windows cant move cube every thang went to hell i mean is bad
[07:50] <bob-has-an-imgbo> @papsh: UUID=D8E3-67A6	/media/16mb-xd-karte	vfat	users,auto,rw,sync,dev	0	0
[07:50] <bob-has-an-imgbo> this is what i have for the xd-card
[07:50] <bob-has-an-imgbo> horrible
[07:50] <coppelman> no close tab botten **
[07:50] <bob-has-an-imgbo> it's not even ext2
[07:51] <bob-has-an-imgbo> it's just that damn fat16
[07:51] <bob-has-an-imgbo> SUDDENLY BOOM, no permissions srsly WTF?!?
[07:51] <Flannel> bob-has-an-imgbo: Please try not to use the enter key as punctuation, it makes it much harder to follow your questions/responses
[07:51] <bob-has-an-imgbo> ok
[07:52] <bob-has-an-imgbo> should i try to format again? i can do that with gparted...
[07:52] <jazz> theadmin, thanks- was looking at the last thing that went into my pc b4 the error i assumed -im new still well since karmic came out.
[07:52] <coppelman> ubuntu is the hardest OS ever
[07:53] <bob-has-an-imgbo> surely it isnt
[07:53] <bob-has-an-imgbo> arch is
[07:53] <coppelman> lol i lost all tabs on all windows yea its hard
[07:54] <bob-has-an-imgbo> what should i do know with my xd-card?
[07:54] <bob-has-an-imgbo> *now
[07:54] <coppelman> i would hate to do a reload 4 the 16 time this week
[07:54] <bob-has-an-imgbo> i format now my xd-card, let's see what happens.
[07:55] <rcg123> Haha, I messed something up, been playing around with terminal only programs... telnet, lynx, and finally figured out a chat client.  You can get alot done without X it seems...
[07:55] <jazz> Dr_Willis, are you there?
[07:55] <reto`> bob-has-an-imgbo: maybe the device cannot be mounted rw due to errors?
[07:55] <bob-has-an-imgbo> there r no errors
[07:55] <jazz> theadmin, hey i got it it worked and i found out the key owner lol
[07:55] <reto`> bob-has-an-imgbo: fsck?
[07:56] <jazz> thanks!!!!!!!!!
[07:56] <theadmin> jazz: Oh who was it? Just wondering
[07:56] <bob-has-an-imgbo> sense? i mean fsck is it the card is broken or smoething
[07:56] <bullgard> Flannel: Thank you very much for providing this link to an excellent explanatory article.
[07:56] <bob-has-an-imgbo> but maybe...
[07:56] <jazz> theadmin,  ubbuntu tweak
[07:56] <reto`> bob-has-an-imgbo: not broken... but corruped probably
[07:57] <bob-has-an-imgbo> lol
[07:57] <bob-has-an-imgbo> it works
[07:57] <bob-has-an-imgbo> i just deleted the fstab line for mounting the card
[07:57] <bob-has-an-imgbo> thx guys
[07:57] <jazz> theadmin,  dr_willis even said he seen it in the ubuntu tweak tool box ...but didnt knwo what the ppa was for it... im good now tohugh
[07:58] <jazz> theadmin,  https://launchpad.net/~tualatrix/+archive/ppa
[07:58] <WaterRatj> How would i remove my cdrom and external cdrom drive from fstab?
[07:59] <reto`> WaterRatj: edit the file?
[07:59] <bob-has-an-imgbo> del line /dev/scd0?
[08:00] <WaterRatj> Just remove the line?
[08:00] <coppelman> :( i need help is this the only help room or can some 1 im me 4 a 1 on  1 to help me
[08:00] <WaterRatj> won't that give issues?
[08:00] <bob-has-an-imgbo> better: put a # in front of it
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> WaterRatj:  comment it out. :)
[08:00] <bob-has-an-imgbo> so u can redel it
[08:01] <jazz> theadmin,  wait...i ran the update again this time not from the terminal but the menus virtual box had an update it took 2 minutes
[08:01] <WaterRatj> and what if my pc won't boot then?
[08:01] <nawk> can someone recommend a video recording/capturing software?
[08:02] <bob-has-an-imgbo> istanbul
[08:02] <bob-has-an-imgbo> also webcam studios
[08:02] <jazz> nawk, record my desktop was what ppl has told me
[08:02] <jazz> i just dont have a mic yet
[08:02] <nawk> bob-has-an-imgbo, I'll try them.  Thanks
[08:03] <jazz> and i hate tutorials and video with cheesy linkin park over them writting how to do something
[08:03] <christopherius> recordmydesktop is what i use
[08:03] <bob-has-an-imgbo> istanbul has ogg-support
[08:03] <nawk> I'm not trying to record my desktop
[08:03] <nawk> I'm trying to video capture with my webcam :)
[08:03] <maddux> question:  if a kernel install was bad, and you wish to remove it, how to tell the system to use an earlier kernel install?
[08:03] <theadmin> maddux: Add it to GRUB boot menu... and boot with it?
[08:04] <maddux> how do i go about that
[08:04] <bob-has-an-imgbo> sudo grub update
[08:04] <openrfc> GRUB is configurable during boot, no?
[08:04] <maddux> it willupdate grub?
[08:05] <nawk> bob-has-an-imgbo, do you know if there exists a motion-activated video record/capture feature in any of the two softwares you recommended?
[08:05] <maddux> i have been taken out the bad stuff, to the point the computer says no kernal to load....except one left in the recovery screen
[08:05] <jazz> theadmin,  thanks man all is well no error on up date.
[08:05] <jazz> im out guys later days.
[08:05] <bob-has-an-imgbo> what is motion-activated?
[08:06] <nawk> start recording as soon as the webcam detects a motion
[08:06] <maddux> was trying to learn about about the comand "dkms" as i wonder if this command can do the job
[08:06] <nawk> or movements
[08:06] <bob-has-an-imgbo> nawk: idk
[08:06] <maddux> i do not know how to give the instruction for using an earlier kernal
[08:07] <nawk> bob-has-an-imgbo, I need to monitor my room
[08:07] <bob-has-an-imgbo> nawk: i use it to use my webcam with adobe flash in firefox
[08:07] <nawk> k
[08:07] <bob-has-an-imgbo> nawk: btw, how should it work in your mind? every motion a file?
[08:07] <Slart> maddux: uninstall the bad kernel package, update grub and it should work again
[08:08] <zcat[1]> !info motion | nawk
[08:08]  * reto` frowns at hearing "adobe flash"
[08:09] <ja660k> hey guys, real quick is there an application i can use to check the status of my network? eg what it up/ if WAN is working etc?
[08:09] <coppelman> wow that guy left
[08:09] <maddux> how to format the updating grub command...so i get this right
[08:09] <coppelman> crap he was helping me
[08:09] <eto> so anybody?
[08:09] <theadmin> ja660k: Uhm, ifconfig?
[08:09] <Slart> maddux: sudo update-grub   should do it
[08:10] <coppelman> any 1 i would love a hand if i could
[08:10] <jazz> anyone know if i can change the names of partitions? so they dont say  17 GB filesystem? i have a few of them and need to keep better tabs on them
[08:10] <maddux> ok, will try.
[08:10] <Slart> jazz: change the label on the filesystem
[08:10] <Slart> !label
[08:10] <ja660k> theadmin, what does that tell me? aside from ip ? sorry for the ignorance
[08:10] <coppelman> ok no 1 likes to help to new guy
[08:11] <eto> okay another try
[08:11] <eto> how to turn off X  advanced effects from command line
[08:11] <Slart> coppelman: why not ask your question again
[08:11] <eto> anybody?
[08:11] <theadmin> ja660k: Hm. Here is an example output. A lot of stuff, actually, http://pastey.net/132933
[08:11] <theadmin> eto: I think, killall compiz
[08:12] <maddux> slart...ok, i did that.    i ran a dkms status and shows builds later than the current grub build, is this an issue?
[08:12] <coppelman> i need to reset all my theme stuff or even to whole os cause i lost my tabs
[08:12] <reto`> !patience > coppelman
[08:12] <ja660k> theadmin, okay thanks
[08:12] <zcat[1]> theadmin:  better to replace it with something? metacity --replace perhaps?
[08:12] <maddux> or unrelated
[08:12] <eto> theadmin:  okay noting that, but to disable them using configuration
[08:12] <jazz> Slart,  thanks for the link...
[08:12] <soreau> eto: You will want to start another window manager so, metacity --replace
[08:13] <Slart> maddux: I have no idea.. I've never used dkms.. but it should work if the kernel isn't found by the update-grub command
[08:13] <Slart> jazz: you're welcome
[08:13] <eto> ugh look i just want to get this damn intel going till the replacemnt nv arrives
[08:13] <maddux> the next boot will tell
[08:13] <eto> i don't have clue what the metacity is or how to start it
[08:14] <Slart> coppelman: lost your tabs? what tabs? how did you lose them?
[08:14] <eto> x crashes on start and screen is blank so i am stuck with the console
[08:14] <jazz> Slart,  when i click to install gparted it give a box to open with aplication...what do i do? i dont have gparted
[08:14] <soreau> eto: Can you explain a bit more exactly the problem your having?
[08:14] <eto> i tried: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel as mentioned in some forum
[08:14] <eto> but apt says all is current
[08:15] <Slart> jazz: run "sudo apt-get install gparted" then run "gksudo gparted" from a terminal
[08:15] <maddux> i am doing all this from command line because video on gui boot in unreadable
[08:15] <coppelman> o
[08:15] <coppelman> see i was try to make it look like a mac
[08:15] <eto> soreau well there was nv card in the machine which started to shake image so it was sent to supplier, there is intel 82845 card builtin
[08:15] <jazz> thank you
[08:16] <coppelman> cause thats what im used to and i lost all the buttens tabs on every window
[08:16] <jazz> Slart,  thanks.
[08:16] <coppelman> i cat cloase them or any thang
[08:16] <eto> when ubuntu starts in the moment where login screen should appear it cycles several times between console and graphics mode and then show resolution selection with everything grayed out
[08:16] <zcat[1]> 'window decorations?'
[08:16] <Slart> coppelman: why not go to system, preferences, appearance and select a theme from there
[08:17] <zcat[1]> coppelman:  you still have titlebars that can move the windows around?
[08:17] <eto> selecting anything makes the x freeze or what, blank black screen , alf+f1 console works tho
[08:17] <coppelman> case a mac look 1 was not there and i was falowing a youtube vido
[08:17] <soreau> eto: Have you removed/uninstalled the nvidia-glx driver that was installed when you had the nvidia card installed?
[08:17] <coppelman> no
[08:17] <zcat[1]> coppelman:  also I suggest looking on gnome-look.org and just using someone else's mac theme..
[08:17] <coppelman> no i cant even move a window
[08:17] <zcat[1]> coppelman:  Ahh, so you've lost your window decorator then
[08:18] <Slart> coppelman: I meant go there and select another theme so you at least get a working system again
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> mac themes,, bla
[08:18] <eto> soreau: propably not, can you please give me some advice how to do it using command line?
[08:18] <coppelman> i was tryring stuff like that but its hard to set a theme
[08:18] <Slart> coppelman: then reboot and you can start over again
[08:18] <theadmin> zcat[1]: It's not "decorator", it's "manager"... Altough some managers do decorations too, such as compiz
[08:18] <coppelman> o i all so tryed that
[08:18] <coppelman> no go cant
[08:19] <coppelman> dam thats like the 16th time this week
[08:19] <maddux> its still has problems....cannot get a readable gui boot screen
[08:19] <soreau> eto: Consider the output of 'dpkg -l|grep nvidia'. Anything with 'ii' next to it means these are packages that are installed. You will want to remove at least the nvidia-glx package, and probably other related ones
[08:19] <zcat[1]> theadmin:  sounds like they've lost the thing that draws the windows borders and icons.. whatever you want to call it, it's not usually the windows manager
[08:19] <coppelman> is there a way with emrald or compiz
[08:19] <zcat[1]> coppelman:  alt-f2 'emerald --replace'
[08:20] <coppelman> and may be some 1 talk me tro a theme set up so
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> compiz --replace  or metacity --replace   , :) or emerald --replace
[08:20] <eto> okay thx soreau  i will try that
[08:20] <theadmin> Grah! What the! Left mouse button is not working
[08:20] <coppelman> yea thats what i did thats what did this 2 me
[08:20] <maddux> is there a kind of recovery that will not lose absolutely everything when the problem of ubuntu is pretty serious?    seems it need major help or reinstall all...which i think means reformatting
[08:20] <coppelman> emerald -- replace
[08:21] <andreii> ubuntu is good. thanks to the developers.
[08:21] <zcat[1]> maddux:  boot live CD, use it to copy /home onto a USB drive or whatever?
[08:21] <andreii> actually, a great product
[08:21] <andreii> no issues
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> maddux:  you can always get to your files with a live cd if all else fails normally
[08:21] <andreii> just wanted to remind you of awesomeness of ubuntu
[08:21] <maddux> its a netbook, no cd drive
[08:21] <coppelman> wow lol i stumpt him
[08:22] <zcat[1]> finally have a lucid daily to play with.. afk for a while ;)
[08:25] <peppino> is there a way to start a distro fom a directory instead / ?
[08:26] <theadmin> Okay, a problem here. In TTY's, the command output seems to be on russian. However, a) my user language is set to english, well, via GNOME. b) it doesn't seem to have cyrillic... fonts? on TTY, so I get stuff like "He?o?xo????", which makes reading the output simply impossible. So my point, how do you set the language to english in terminal?
[08:26] <coppelman> dam theadmin that must suck
[08:27] <JumboJellyfish> peppino, che fai!?
[08:27] <theadmin> coppelman: Yeah
[08:27] <eto> excuse me but how can one identify ubuntu version ?
[08:27] <peppino> JumboJellyfish: ?
[08:27] <eto> i mean precise, uname -a returns linux string
[08:28] <chachie> does anyone know why typing //root in firefox displays the file system?
[08:28] <maddux> dr willis, i booted by USB, the next best thing.   i will try, to see which kernal or software it is running that didnt make the ubuntu fail on video.
[08:28] <Guest70877> firestarter is showing a bunch of active connections on various ports listing the program as python, anyone with a clue as to why?
[08:28] <JumboJellyfish> i think you can put distro on usb drive, peppino
[08:28] <maddux> thanks for all who got me this far :)
[08:28] <theadmin> Guest70877: Some programs might use Python scripts to upgrade themselves.
[08:28] <chachie> if you want to install a dist to a usb drive try unetbootin
[08:29] <ghabit> Hello, how to reinstall new grub?
[08:29] <ghabit> The same as normal grub?
[08:30] <Guest70877> theadmin: Yeah but its showing constant data being sent at an average level of about 50-100 Kbs/s. Is that usual?
[08:30] <peppino> JumboJellyfish: is it possibile to redefine root with a directory...
[08:30] <ghabit> It reboots from me after 'grub loading'
[08:30] <chachie> does anyone know why typing //root in firefox displays the file system?
[08:30] <ghabit> Help me please
[08:30] <theadmin> Guest70877: Guess no, something's strange here.
[08:30] <chachie> you can define root to its own partition if you want
[08:30] <JumboJellyfish> peppino, i believe so but i dont know how to enable it
[08:31] <theadmin> chachie: It doesn't here.\
[08:31] <chachie> theadmin: you mean it doesnt do that if you do on yours?
[08:31] <theadmin> chachie: However, just typing in "/" does. Yes, it doesn't do this on my Firefox.
[08:31] <maddux> question: whats the best way to compare two installs, if on the good one i have command line and gui and bad one just command line?
[08:32] <Guest70877> theadmin: I check netstat every once in a while and this is the first time its showed this many established connections on this many ports
[08:32] <chachie> do you know why mine would? I never noticed this before then read something about it and tried
[08:32] <joebodo> Guest70877, do use use ubuntu one service ?
[08:32] <Guest70877> nope
[08:33] <chachie> theadmin: typing / in mine doesnt do anything
[08:33] <ZykoticK9> chachie, i tried in Firefox 3.6, Firefox (in wine) and Chromium -- none showed file system with //root
[08:33] <Guest70877> joebodo: nope
[08:33] <chachie> hmmm weird
[08:34] <iflema> eto in terminal cat /etc/lsb-release or desktop menu > system / about ubuntu
[08:34] <StuckMojo> is there an image suitable for putting on a usb drive?
[08:34] <papsh> StuckMojo, any. use unetbootin
[08:34] <Guest70877> How do I check these ports to see if the traffic is legit, and close the ports if it is not?
[08:34] <chachie> I second unet
[08:34] <eto> thx iflema
[08:34] <ghabit> Anyone? I have restarting netbook after 'grub loading'
[08:34] <ghabit> Help!
[08:34] <ghabit> )
[08:34] <Guest70877> How do I check these ports to see if the traffic is legit, and close the ports if it is not?
[08:35] <StuckMojo> thanks
[08:35] <chachie> guest try nmap
[08:35] <papsh> Guest70877, run an IDS, then use iptables to control traffic
[08:35] <chachie> nmap the IP you want with a -PN
[08:35] <chachie> basic scan
[08:35] <theadmin> !recoveringgrub | ghabit
[08:35] <jordan> bonjour
[08:35] <Guest70877> sorry guys i only talk noob
[08:35] <ghabit> !grub
[08:35] <ghabit> !grub2
[08:36] <papsh> Guest70877, then there's not much you can do except follow best practices
[08:36] <ghabit> theadmin: Thanks a lot.
[08:36] <chachie> Zykotick9: do you think there could be a script or something making this happen in FF?
[08:37] <Guest70877> no i mean what is nmap?
[08:37] <papsh> Guest70877, port scanner
[08:37] <chachie> apt-get install nmap
[08:37] <nawk> I just downloaded Cheese
[08:37] <nawk> but I need to install the driver for my Logitech ClickSmart 310 webcam
[08:37] <nawk> i need help
[08:38] <nawk> which package should I look for
[08:38] <abhijit> hello everyone
[08:38] <theadmin> does anybody know what's all that with "X" being uppercase? Most commands are lowercase... X, VirtualBox and NetworkManager are only exceptions I know
[08:38] <theadmin> nawk: Go to manufacturer's site, they must have the drivers
[08:38] <papsh> theadmin, it was programmed by someone who didn't follow unix best practices
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> !webcam
[08:39] <ghabit> theadmin: I have BMPtoRGB command here for example )
[08:39] <ghabit> Don't know what is for.
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> ghabit:  converts images
[08:39] <ZykoticK9> chachie, i have NO idea
[08:40] <chachie> K thanks
[08:40] <chachie> anyone else have any ideas why in my FF doing //root displays my file system?
[08:41] <andreii> cha-cha-cha
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> chachie:  because thats a local filesystme url?
[08:41] <chachie> I am not sure never knew it would do that
[08:41] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: But on mine it doesn't do anything. However, typing in a normal fs adress such as "/home/r00t/Audio" does work.
[08:41] <chachie> others have tried here and theirs do not
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> try //media
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> it converts it to file://media here
[08:42] <andreii> it means that sites can access your filesystem from javascript
[08:42] <andreii> it's a big security issue
[08:42] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Hm, that worked.
[08:42] <chachie> andreii: how do i stop this ?
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> i recall several warnings befor any javascript was able to access local files last i tried it.
[08:42] <chachie> dr: worked for me as well
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> so its not really a security issue
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> tiddlywiki makes use of the javascript/local file access features ive seen
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  coud be that //root is /root/ which has rescrited permissions
[08:44] <ZykoticK9> chachie, what Dr_Willis works for me too - but not //root
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> /root does not work here
[08:44] <chachie> Dr_Willis: /root also works on mine
[08:44] <StuckMojo> the regular desktop cd is a live cd as well, right?
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> file:////root/  does not work here on mine
[08:45] <ZykoticK9> StuckMojo, yup
[08:45] <plustax__> hi
[08:45] <chachie> so this is nothing to worry about or it is? I would think it would be
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> chachie:  its a feature
[08:46] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Hm, you're right. Say, typing in "/.htaccess" does nothing. It's 600, owned by root, so... well, thanks for explaining.
[08:46] <Guest70877> so i have nmap, what now?
[08:46] <chachie> so i can turn it off? if so how ?
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> No idea about /root working for some but not others
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> chachie:  disable javascript if you want to be paranoid. but not ANY javascript can just access local files
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> tiddlywiki and other programs can make use of the feature
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> http://www.tiddlywiki.com/
[08:47] <papsh> chachie, are you talking about general javascript security?
[08:47] <chachie> Dr_Willis: ok
[08:48] <chachie> papsh: i guess yes
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> ther3 used to be these idiotic 'your system is hacked i can see your files.. with a url to ' file://c:/'  to scare people :)
[08:48] <papsh> chachie, noscript?
[08:48] <chachie> just never knew i could do that before and no matter how i type it in my broswser i get files
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> chachie:  i use the thing to access html docs in my /usr/share/doc/whatever/html doc files
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> then bookmark them
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> Your browser can access local files.. thats not really javascript doing anything
[08:49] <chachie> ahhh ok yeah it does seem nice to be able to use it but got scared me for a moment since i didnt know you could
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> how else could you load local html pages and stuff
[08:49] <chachie> true!
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> chachie:  workd under windows also and proberly osx same way
[08:50] <chachie> lol the things I am always still learning like I can just click both mouse buttons in terminal to paste :P
[08:51] <genii> Or shift-insert
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> chachie:  or middle click
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> mouse 1 + mouse2 = Mouse3 :)
[08:51] <chachie> I knew the shift but have no middle button
[08:51] <chachie> oh
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> old-skool stuff
[08:51] <christopherius> middle click is handy
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> back when mice did have 3 buttons and NO wheels
[08:52] <christopherius> and no laser mice
[08:52] <chachie> yeah maybe old school but even my teachers still right click and copy then right click and paste :P
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> thats the selection buffer. Not the same as the clipboard.
[08:52]  * genii scrapes the crud out of the rubber ball on his DB25 plu mouse
[08:52] <genii> *plug
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> chachie:  thats because thats how MS trained them
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> I had IR mice in the 1980's :)
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> they had to use special mice pads
[08:53] <chachie> got ya yeah I am new to the linux world 8 months no windows in my home
[08:53] <andreii> we all love ms.
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> Now the New Logitech mice can work on a Mirror.. :)
[08:53] <chachie> im just happy mine works on the carpet so i can use my 80" tv :P
[08:53] <kaki> exept me
[08:53] <kaki> i don't love MS
[08:54] <reto`> laser is nice... uses very little energy... compared to IR
[08:54] <WierdAAR> Hello, I can't unmount my external harddrive bcause an application is using it. Is there a way to find what application and then close it?
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> Dirty mouse balls :)
[08:54] <kaki> yes try monitor system $
[08:54] <kaki> and kill the process
[08:54] <chachie> i hate it when my mice get that way
[08:55] <WierdAAR> kaki, Monitor is not installed ( I use Xubuntu)
[08:55] <Krewl> Good morning people (Depending on your timezone offcourse
[08:55] <kaki> ahhhh ok
[08:55] <chachie> could anyone here point me to a good tutorial on full drive encryption without using the alternative install cd?
[08:55] <kaki> forgive me friend
[08:56] <reto`> WierdAAR: lsof can help
[08:56] <iflema> WierdAAR sudo fuser -m /dev/[whatever] will get you a PID then killit.... savy?
[08:56] <WierdAAR> reto`, lsof?
[08:56] <chachie> lsof -l
[08:56] <andreii> my system hangs after load average reahes 60 - help
[08:56] <reto`> WierdAAR: in terminal
[08:57] <andreii> i just see black screen
[08:57] <WierdAAR> reto`, I used media/name and then just kill number ?
[08:57] <andreii> even my music stops playing
[08:57] <andreii> what to do?
[08:57] <Krewl> Anyone here who has done trhe LPI ubuntu Exam and is willing to share some experiences on how the exam was? Going for it next Thuesday.
[08:58] <WierdAAR> iflema, , I used media/name and then just kill number ?
[08:58] <iflema> WierdAAR good i assumed cdrom....
[08:59] <WierdAAR> iflema, Ok, Thanks!
[08:59] <andreii> my system hangs after load average reahes 60 - help me pls
[08:59] <Sa[i]nT> I have an adhoc on my windows7 PC, and I want to be able to connect to it with my ubuntu laptop, is that even possible?
[09:00] <andreii> (16 core system)
[09:00] <loops> Sa[i]nT, i'm curious to know what an adhoc is?
[09:01] <mkanyicy> loops, its peer-to-peer wifi
[09:01] <Sa[i]nT> loops, Seriously?
[09:01] <Canika> #GNAA @ IRC.HARDCHATS.COM - HARD CHATS, CHAT HARD
[09:01] <Canika> #GNAA @ IRC.HARDCHATS.COM - HARD CHATS, CHAT HARD
[09:01] <Canika> #GNAA @ IRC.HARDCHATS.COM - HARD CHATS, CHAT HARD
[09:01] <Canika> #GNAA @ IRC.HARDCHATS.COM - HARD CHATS, CHAT HARD
[09:01] <Canika> #GNAA @ IRC.HARDCHATS.COM - HARD CHATS, CHAT HARD
[09:01] <mkanyicy> Sa[i]nT, just use the nm-applet in the panel
[09:01] <FloodBot2> Canika: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:01] <maddux> question, a first thanks to all help so far.   What is the best way to get info from two installs, one fails on loadup - the video flaky, to get data to show why to one install (usb) is ok and where the corruption is on the bad installation?
[09:01] <loops> Sa[i]nT, i was serious, i still have never heard the term used as a noun
[09:01] <Canika> #GNAA @ IRC.HARDCHATS.COM - HARD CHATS, CHAT HARD
[09:01] <Canika> #GNAA @ IRC.HARDCHATS.COM - HARD CHATS, CHAT HARD
[09:01] <Canika> #GNAA @ IRC.HARDCHATS.COM - HARD CHATS, CHAT HARD
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[09:01] <Canika> #GNAA @ IRC.HARDCHATS.COM - HARD CHATS, CHAT HARD
[09:01] <FloodBot2> Canika: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:01] <JoshuaL> !emergency Canika
[09:02] <crisi-cuprobleme> stie cineva romana?
[09:03] <kaki> ok
[09:03] <kaki> to see
[09:03] <kaki> i gar go now
[09:03] <mkanyicy> loops, adhoc is the mode of wifi, other  modes are ap for 'access point' etc
[09:03] <loops> mkanyicy, i know what adhoc mode is :o)
[09:03] <Sa[i]nT> Yeah, adhocs are for making little intranets lol.
[09:04] <mkanyicy> loops, then what is your question?
[09:04] <Valetudo> morning all
[09:04]  * Dr_Willis downloads tha intranetz
[09:04] <loops> mkanyicy, my question is, what is an adhoc?
[09:04] <loops> mkanyicy, it's okay.. the moment has passed :o)
[09:04] <rabbi1> guys, need to register my nick, any help ?
[09:04] <IP-v6> what should be first line of a shell script for default ubuntu shell !#/usr/bin/sh or !#/usr/bin/bash
[09:04] <mkanyicy> loops, whatever, dude
[09:04] <loops> rabbi1, /msg nickserv help
[09:05] <rabbi1> thx loops
[09:05] <Valetudo> really stupid question... How do i install thunderbird-3.0.1.tar.bz2 i oened up the archibve n theres just files in there... doesnt seem to be an exacutable... and the one in software manager isnt the latest so i want the one from the site.
[09:05] <IP-v6> sorry !#/bin/sh or !#/bin/bash
[09:05] <pyqt_2010_newbie> hi guys any one use python here?
[09:05] <wolfie1> does anyone know how can I connect to the internet through terminal??
[09:05] <wolfie1> o.o
[09:05] <shawnboy> Tomboy Notes claims to be able to export to HTML. Plugin shows enabled, but for life of me I cannot figure out how to do it.
[09:05] <rabbi1> loops, i am a newbie
[09:06] <mkanyicy> IP-v6, use bash if you want to script on BASH
[09:06] <loops> pyqt_2010_newbie, of course.. but #python would have even more :o)
[09:06] <AzikaCorp> @wolfie1 what do you mean by "connect"
[09:06] <Sacho> shawnboy: open a note, click tools, export to html
[09:06] <pyqt_2010_newbie> i cant login to #python idk why?
[09:06] <wolfie1> for example, use telnet, wget and lynx
[09:06] <loops> rabbi1, no worries, hope you get it working
[09:06] <wolfie1> I want to be online without the need of X server
[09:06] <pyqt_2010_newbie> can you try to connect to #python
[09:07] <Sacho> pyqt_2010_newbie: most likely your nick needs to be registered to join the channel
[09:07] <Sacho> for better IRC support you should join #freenode
[09:07] <reto`> Valetudo: it woould have to be compiled first I guess
[09:07] <AzikaCorp> it doesn't work for you ?
[09:07] <reto`> !compile > Valetudo
[09:07] <AzikaCorp> use w3m to navigate
[09:07] <shawnboy> Sacho: oh dang! I have no word menus and my Tools icon was greyed out (but works). Wow, I'd have never found that. Thanks.
[09:07] <rcg123> don't do it, that video link is not properly formated for the visually or gui impaired.
[09:07] <reto`> Valetudo: but better find a .deb package for it if possible
[09:08] <wolfie1> I dont know how to connect on terminal
[09:08] <Sa[i]nT> When I make an adhoc on the win7 machine, it shows up as crazy characters on the ubuntu side.
[09:08] <rabbi1> where shld i run /msg nickserv help ?
[09:08] <AzikaCorp> setting your IP adress and so one ?
[09:08] <wolfie1> I can be online, but as long as I have x server running, then I switch to ctrl alt f1 and do stuff there, but I want to be online without having to start the GUI
[09:08] <rcg123> EXIT
[09:09] <loops> rabbi1, just run it here, in your IRC client, in the same place you're typing stuff to this channel
[09:09] <wolfie1> I tried that iwconfig and is not working
[09:09] <mkanyicy> Sa[i]nT, didn't you say you have adhoc wifi on Win7 already?
[09:09] <reto`> wolfie1: use a text browser... like elinks lynx or w3m
[09:09] <rabbi1> ok guys, pain to suggest window user ? :)
[09:09] <rcg123> whoops.  I sent a message to the wrong window lol.
[09:09] <wolfie1> yeah, I know reto, but the fact, is that if I log into terminal, it does not get online, seems like I need so tart a network daemon or something
[09:09] <loops> better than sending to wrong wife
[09:09] <AzikaCorp> alright. you use wap for encryption ?
[09:10] <wolfie1> Im not sure, but I can be online only while Im on my GUI
[09:10] <ghabit> How can I remove not needed items from grub2 menu?
[09:10] <rcg123> I'm actually stuck in terminal only at the moment, no X.
[09:10] <ghabit> I have old kernels, etc.
[09:10] <Valetudo> cheers reto but is there a DEB for the latest vertion out... surely it shud be in software manager
[09:10] <ghabit> Need only two items.
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> !grub2
[09:10] <AzikaCorp> from the terminal, you are able to setting the network and surf
[09:10] <kane77> hey guys, are there any songbird deb packages available somewhere? (for 1.4 songbird)
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> ghabit:  remoive old kernels rerun update-grub
[09:10] <loops> ghabit, you can use Synaptic to remove old uneeded kernels, which should fixup grub for you too
[09:11] <wolfie1> and how do I set the network up?
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> kane77:  i think theres ppa repos
[09:11] <ghabit> Also I have there additional entrys for other OS's, I don't need them.
[09:11] <mkanyicy> when xorg.conf is not available, what is the way to configure X, then?
[09:11] <kane77> Dr_Willis, yes I found some ppa, but these were nightly builds
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | ghabit
[09:11] <loops> mkanyicy, you can use xrandr from the command line, one way
[09:12] <AzikaCorp> for example, if you are using WEP (don't use wep !!),  #iwconfig channel 6 essid "My-NETWORK" key yourkyewep
[09:12] <reto`> Valetudo: if it's not in the repo try searching the web for a .deb package... maybe debian testing has one or something
[09:12] <rabbi1> /msg nickserv register manju123a<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:12] <phildini> Is someone available to answer a question about PPAs?
[09:12] <AzikaCorp> they, to get en ip adress : dhclient wlan0
[09:12] <mkanyicy> loops, ok, but what is the configuration file?
[09:12] <loops> rabbi1, damn.. everyone just saw that.
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> kane77:  i just use the packagtes from the homepage and extact them to my users home
[09:12] <reto`> wolfie1: wifi?
[09:13] <wolfie1> yeah, wifi
[09:13] <rabbi1> thts ok, wht a big deal ? :)
[09:13] <wolfie1> iwconfig doesnt seem to work
[09:13] <gmendoza> kane77, http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/9.10/?q=songbird
[09:13] <wolfie1> I type wlist scan
[09:13] <loops> rabbi1, no.. you really need to keep your password secret :o)
[09:13] <wolfie1> and notthing is detected
[09:13] <kane77> gmendoza, ooh, thanks!
[09:13] <rcg123> no hunter2 jokes lol.
[09:13] <rabbi1> is it registered now ?
[09:13] <AzikaCorp> being root ?
[09:14] <wolfie1> its like starting GUI is the only way to the system to recognize the wifi lans
[09:14] <loops> rabbi1, no, the message came to this channel instead of nickserv
[09:14] <wolfie1> yeah, I do all that with sudo
[09:14] <mefuntee> i dont knw how to convert with winff
[09:14] <reto`> wolfie1: hmm... not so easy... you would have to setup wifi from the cli
[09:14] <loops> rabbi1, if registration works you'll get a proper message from nickserv,
[09:14] <AzikaCorp> if you switch of your interface with : ifup wlan0
[09:14] <reto`> wolfie1: wicd seems to be  pretty good... maybe try that?
[09:15] <rcg123> I've seen tuts for CLI wifi.  I think i actually have a magazine article that goes through the common ways to do it.
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> mefuntee:  read thew winff docs/guides?
[09:15] <wolfie1> lemme see x3
[09:15] <wolfie1> wicd
[09:15] <loops> mkanyicy, sorry slow.   In moder xorg setup there is often no config file at all.   Everything is dynamic, plug another mouse in, it should work etc.
[09:15] <loops> modern*
[09:16] <mefuntee> how do u keep ur pasword secret then?
[09:17] <wolfie1> humm
[09:17] <wolfie1> apt wants to uninstall network-mannager-gnome
[09:17] <crisi-cuprobleme> hi, I have  a problem I modifi the size of linux partition end now I'can boot with grub,
[09:17] <wolfie1> :S
[09:17] <wolfie1> when I try to install wicd
[09:17] <Sa[i]nT> Question, I can connect to my windows PC with ubuntu if I leave the adhoc I made with my windows machine exposed without a pass. Does that mean that ubuntu is not liking WPA?
[09:17] <mkanyicy> thanks loops, your input has been helpful
[09:18] <crisi-cuprobleme> hi, I have  a problem I modifi the size of linux partition end now I'can boot with grub
[09:18] <AzikaCorp> yu don't need to uninstall anything
[09:18] <mkanyicy> Sa[i]nT, no it does not mean that
[09:18] <Valetudo> cant find a deb package for the newer ones either :(
[09:18] <crisi-cuprobleme> wat I can do?
[09:19] <mefuntee> how do u keep ur pasword secret then?
[09:19] <Sa[i]nT> Is the JDK in the repo?
[09:19] <testelus> hi all.. im running eeebuntu.. and im woundering on how can i run a bash script once i have loged in.. "gui login". i need to start a script once login is done by gdm?
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> testelus:  its hanled by whatebver windowmanager/desktop you are using normally
[09:20] <mefuntee> am a total noob to irc, pls ow do u keep ur password secret while tryin to register?
[09:20] <Kamilion> type /query nickserv
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> mefuntee:  use4 the server window or query
[09:20] <Kamilion> then type help in that window
[09:20] <AzikaCorp> testelus : just add it in your .bashrc
[09:21] <Sa[i]nT> Just type /ns identify password
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> testelus:  what is the command supposed to do?
[09:21] <testelus> AzikaCorp, i dont want it in there,
[09:21] <testelus> .i want it to be run once gui login is used.
[09:21] <yoophglup> crisi what partion did you resize
[09:21] <Kamilion> Sa[i]nT: Not all clients have a /ns alias.
[09:21] <testelus> Dr_Willis, its a bash script
[09:21] <crisi-cuprobleme> linux
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> testelus:  set Up the windowmanager/desktops auto run feature
[09:21] <crisi-cuprobleme> ex4
[09:21] <AzikaCorp> hoo, at login, sorry
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> testelus:  well so? what IS it supposed to be doing?
[09:22] <crisi-cuprobleme> I erase swap partition
[09:22] <darolu> testelus: create a symbolic link inside /usr/bin and then add it to your start up programs
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> testelus:  i dont even know what WM.DE eeebuntu uses. its not really a ubuntu disrto any more
[09:22] <yoophglup> you need to recreate the swap partion
[09:22] <testelus> darolu, ahh.. nice idea.. will try it out.
[09:23] <testelus> Dr_Willis, didnt know that.
[09:23] <mefuntee> pls can anybody help wt presets for converting avi to mp4 with ffmpeg?
[09:23] <crisi-cuprobleme> ok trhen grub wil run
[09:23] <testelus> Dr.strage they use bunut name tho
[09:23] <nomnex> can I have help with SUID, SGID, are these commands?
[09:23] <testelus> -erm
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> testelus:  it USED to be based on ubuntu. now its based on debian
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> testelus:  or so i read.
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> mefuntee:  an avi can be a mp4 if its using the right codec
[09:24] <darolu> menfuntee: ffmpeg -y -i input.avi -b 768 -s 320x240 -vcodec xvid -ab 128 -acodec aac -ac 2 -ab 64 -f mp4 output.avi
[09:24] <testelus> well.. same shit.. :p ubuntu is also based on debian :)
[09:24] <yoophglup> it is possible
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> testelus:  not really the same - keeps getting farther apart.. then they sorts of resync.. then start diverting..
[09:25] <yoophglup> otherwise i would just reinstall
[09:25] <maddux> question, is grub2 superior to grub or is it still being tested and growning pains?
[09:26] <testelus> Dr_Willis, yeah.. but ubuntu stil uses debians package system tho
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> maddux:  it has features grub1 does not,, and it will have more features as time goes on
[09:26] <darolu> maddux: although is still young/green; I think grub2 is better
[09:26] <mefuntee> Dr_Willis: pls how do u mean by 'if u have the right codec'?
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> testelus:  so? mandrake and RH use rpm's but that dosent mean much :)
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> mefuntee:  avi are containers.. mp4 is a mpeg codec. you can have a avi thats an mp4 video
[09:27] <nomnex> -s to give an app suid? some input welcome, I don't get it
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> the mp4 extension mesna very little
[09:27] <maddux> thats good to hear, i will migrate this to grub 2...may fix my bootup to fuzzy video display
[09:27] <darolu> Dr_Willis: I think mandrake died few years ago... now is mandriva
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> darolu:  yep.
[09:27] <Seveas> nomnex, +s to giveth, -s to taketh away
[09:27] <mefuntee> Dr_Willis: i think i have all the codecs cos i installed ubuntu restricted extras... are there other ones appart frm those?
[09:27] <testelus> indeeed
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> mefuntee:  we are talking about the format of the video.
[09:27] <iflema> nick /tremmons
[09:27] <testelus> darolu, i get mail by thouse ppl every 2nd day to install ther crap :p
[09:27] <Seveas> darolu, not as much 'died' as 'merged with conectiva'
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> mefuntee:  you can have a .avi file that is  a .mp4 file with a diffrent name
[09:28] <nomnex> Seveas, I am not clear with both command SUID/SGID can you explain?
[09:28] <rabbi1> loops ?
[09:28] <maddux> question:  is there a good utility that runs from command line that is a general fixer of some more serious problems of the system?
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> mefuntee:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4_Part_14
[09:28] <Seveas> nomnex, I can but this isn't a support channel :)
[09:28] <ghabit> i have lost my xp entry at grub, how to 'reset' grub settings? It have very complicated, not user-editable grub.d folder.
[09:28] <ghabit> Help me please.
[09:28] <darolu> Seveas: true that
[09:28] <Seveas> ghabit, try a brick. Or #ubuntu :)
[09:28] <nomnex> Seveas, #ubuntu not support channel?
[09:29] <Seveas> hey wtf? I thought I was somewhere else. Sorry
[09:29] <darolu> lol
[09:29] <mefuntee> im a noob but when i had any video converter in xp and i convert an avi in2 mp4, it compresses the file and retains the quality, id lilke somethin like that in ubuntu...
[09:29] <nomnex> Seveas, is there a IRC channel to ask about bash commands?
[09:29] <Valetudo> dont suppose any one can talk me through installing thunderbird-3.0.1.tar.bz2?
[09:29] <Seveas> nomnex, ok: u+s == suid. That means that whoever runs the program runs it as the owner of the command
[09:29] <Seveas> g+s == setgid, same as above but primary group instead of owner
[09:29] <papsh> mefuntee, ffmpeg
[09:30] <darolu> mefuntee: the line I pasted delivers excellent quality
[09:30] <nomnex> Seveas, I see
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> mefuntee:  you are confuseing the codec the video file is using with the extension
[09:30] <gmendoza> mefuntee, you'll want to also include the libavcodec-extra-52 from the medibuntu repo.  It has aac encoding support for ffmpeg... which was removed from the repo version of libavcodec-unstripped-52
[09:30] <papsh> mefuntee, ffmpeg with the -sameq option, actually
[09:30] <gmendoza> btw..
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> mefuntee:  an 'avi' could be any of several dozen (hundered) of codec s
[09:30] <gmendoza> sorry to interupt...
[09:30] <Seveas> nomnex, so for instance sudo, which is u+s, is always run as root, no matter who runs it. That's why it can change your userid to whatever /etc/sudoers allows you to
[09:31] <rabbi1> how to get the <key> parameter to reset pass ?
[09:31] <darolu> mefuntee: think of "avi" as a bag, it can contain many different items; it is a container format, is similar to .zip actually.
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> mefuntee:  good info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source_codecs_and_containers   also
[09:32] <ghabit> Anyone?
[09:32] <Seveas> ghabit, running update-grub should detect XP and put a relevant entry in the grub config. If it doesn't, your XP setup is likely broken
[09:32] <nomnex> Seveas, thank you
[09:32] <ghabit> How to add win xp entry to grub.
[09:32] <papsh> video codecs/contrainers/etc are not worth knowing too much about
[09:32] <Slart> ghabit: running sudo update-grub should do it
[09:32] <ghabit> Seveas: ty, I will try
[09:32] <darolu> ghabit: what version of grub do you have?
[09:32] <Seveas> darolu, he mentions grub.d, that's a grub2-only thing :)
[09:33] <darolu> Seveas: OK I didn't read the beginning of his thread.
[09:33] <burns> hello all
[09:33] <rabbi1> help required to change the pwd
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> mefuntee:  in theory divx, xvid,H.264 (MPEG-4 part 10)  should look about the same.. each has some of its own better/worse cases I guess
[09:33] <Seveas> papsh, well, it's nice to know how it works. Explains the  'some avis work and other don't, wtf?!?' questions we sometimes get :)
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> I find video codec/contianer info VERY VERY well worth knowing about
[09:34] <Slart> !details | rabbi1
[09:34] <darolu> rabbi1: sudo passwd user
[09:34] <rabbi1> i want to change my password
[09:34] <rabbi1> and the parameter required to change the password is <key>. so how do i get the key now ?
[09:35] <Seveas> rabbi1, system -> preferences -> about me
[09:35] <Slart> rabbi1: system, administration, users and groups
[09:35] <Seveas> then click the 'change password' button
[09:35] <SNIPER0215> Hello, all
[09:35] <rabbi1> seveas, sorry i meant here in IRC
[09:35] <Seveas> rabbi1, ah
[09:35] <Slart> rabbi1: or what Seveas said =)
[09:35] <Slart> !register | rabbi1
[09:36] <Valetudo> anyone available to help me?
[09:36] <mefuntee> Dr_Willis: thanks a lot though im going to have to study the links u sent me well...
[09:36] <rabbi1> ubottu, my nick name is registered here, would like to change the pwd
[09:36] <Slart> !ask | Valetudo
[09:36] <Seveas> rabbi1, /msg nickserv set password new_password_here
[09:36] <Slart> rabbi1: read the last 5 words of what ubottu said
[09:36] <Valetudo> lol i did before. but didnt get a message thought some1 missed it lol
[09:37] <Seveas> rabbi1, if that doesn't work, please ask in #freenode, this channel is for ubuntu support, not freenode support :)
[09:37] <perlmonkey> hello
[09:37] <Seveas> rabbi1, /msg nickserv help set password
[09:37] <Seveas> hi perlmonkey
[09:37] <perlmonkey> I'm having many problems >:-/
[09:37] <Slart> Valetudo: if noone answers it might just be because noone knows.. or you omitted some details.. you can always just repeat the question every 15 minutes or so
[09:37] <Valetudo> I have a firefox-3.6.tar.bz & thunderbird-3.0.1.tar.bz2 and i have no idea how to install them as im new to linux. there isnt a .deb out thier for either that i can find
[09:38] <mefuntee> darolu: thanks for the preset, i'll try it out and send u a heart when i get the result i desire...
[09:38] <Seveas> Valetudo, you throw them away and install the proper packages
[09:38] <Slart> Valetudo: if you're new to linux you might want to stick with the versions that are in the repositories
[09:38] <Valetudo> why the ones in the software center aint the latest.
[09:38] <perlmonkey> host and whois does not work on my server
[09:38] <Slart> Valetudo: but they work, and they are supported
[09:38] <darolu> Valetudo: if you are new to linux, you better download the binnaries
[09:39] <System-7> Hello there... I was just wondering, how can I (if I can at all) bridge two network adapters together to share a connection? I have some fair experience with Linux, so throwing me some terminal commands is just fine (though if there is a front-end I suppose it would be better overall)
[09:39] <Ascavasaion> hello there, what applications can I install that will automatically do virus protection like say Norton/Kaspersky/AVG, etc in Windows?  I am running Ubuntu 9.04.
[09:39] <System-7> Asca: You don't need it
[09:39] <Seveas> Valetudo, enable the correct ppa, see this tutorial for more details: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-firefox-3-6-stable-from-ubuntu-ppa.html
[09:39] <darolu> Valetudo: because Ubuntu developers have to add branding items, test and refine each package; to ensure they are stable and that they'll work with every hardware configuration.
[09:39] <Slart> Ascavasaion: there's clamav.. and some commercial anti-virus packages available.. but usually you don't need it for the linux system itself
[09:40] <System-7> As long as you're not running root you will be fine
[09:40] <Ascavasaion> Okay, thank you System-7 and Slart
[09:40] <perlmonkey> Linux is like species 8473 impervous to all technological viruses
[09:40] <Seveas> Ascavasaion, you can install clamav if you want
[09:40] <darolu> Ascavasaion: running an antivirus in Linux is just as useful as planting a palmtree in the Artic
[09:40] <christopherius> lol
[09:41] <Seveas> darolu, well, it won't take long until we see more proper linux viruses. Best to get used to needing antivirus :)
[09:41] <SNIPER0215> http://www.pornhub.com
[09:41] <Seveas> !ops | SNIPER0215
 what you mean by share? You want computers in network go to internet via your pc?
[09:41] <Ascavasaion> and what does one use to protect again malicious links in mails, on webpages, etc.?
[09:41] <perlmonkey> only borg nanobots can harm linux
[09:41] <Seveas> Ascavasaion, firefox with its built-in phishing detection
[09:41] <Slart> Ascavasaion: common sense can get you out of a lot of trouble..regardless of system
[09:41] <darolu> Seveas: there are many malware/trojans for Linux, but a virus per se... none that I am aware =))
[09:41] <SNIPER0215> That's what bridged connections are for.
[09:41] <Ascavasaion> Okay
[09:42] <darolu> worms** not malware
[09:42] <Slart> Ascavasaion: usually that stuff is targeted at other platforms
[09:42] <Ascavasaion> Slart: Just that some of my Facebook contacts received malicious URLs from my account in Facebook.
[09:42] <rabbi1> seveas, thx problems solved
[09:42] <Seveas> Ascavasaion, facebook apps are a whole different ballgame. Don't use facebook apps :)
[09:42] <System-7> Basically, I have this set up in Win on a netbook, bridging my wireless adapter to my ethernet, then another computer connects through that... of course, I miss running Linux on the netbook, so I was wondering if I could avoid Windows altogether and do the bridge in Ubuntu
[09:43] <kaddi_> Ascavasaion: you may want to change your passwords then
[09:43] <darolu> Ascavasaion: I use a very long blacklist of malicious websites, you only need to edit your /etc/hosts file: http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.txt
[09:43] <Ascavasaion> Seveas: I never do.
[09:43] <Ascavasaion> kaddi_: I changed them :)
[09:43] <Slart> Ascavasaion: not sure how facebook does its thing.. but keep your browser updated and you should be fine
[09:43] <darolu> Ascavasaion: it blocks pretty much all ads too :)
[09:43] <papsh> most common attack vector is the browser
 yea you can man route and if you want firewall as well the man iptables
[09:44] <kaddi_> and especially the plugins such as flash, shockwave, java and so on... it's not so much the browser itself anymore
[09:46] <mefuntee> darolu: do it means there are security in ubuntu if there are worms...?
[09:47] <perlmonkey> i'm having major probs since changing my router >:-/ can anyone help diagnose the problem... I have 3 problems appear actually..first one, I can't use whois or host in shell, just doesn't respond..some kind of DNS lookup failure I'm thinking? second.. in syslog, my router IP is being appended to all hostnames for mail connections etc, possibly related to first prob? and finally, domain names are taking an AGE to resolve
[09:47] <System-7> oh hey thanks kohar, I'm looking that up now (hopefully it will work)
[09:47] <profesja> witam
[09:47] <profesja> co u was
[09:47] <mefuntee> darolu: do it means there are security laspes in ubuntu if there are worms...?
[09:47] <profesja> jak mija sobota
[09:47] <profesja> witaj muhammed
[09:47] <Tm_T> !pl | profesja
[09:47] <papsh> perlmonkey, use a diff dns server?
[09:47] <profesja> fuck off all
[09:47] <papsh> perlmonkey, try <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:47] <mefuntee> darolu: does it mean we HVAE to use an antivirus?
[09:47] <perlmonkey> :-/ will try
[09:47] <profesja> fuck of and die
 also check ubuntuforums there was how to
[09:48] <darolu> mefuntee: no, don't worry
[09:48] <perlmonkey> profesja has aggression/anger issues
[09:48] <System-7> Yeah I'm on the community site right now reading about it :)
[09:48] <profesja> welcome
[09:48] <papsh> mefuntee, no. few people write linux client malware
[09:48] <profesja> i'm come back
[09:48] <Kaiser1986> who can i speak to regarding a problem with Wifi on UBN 9.10?
[09:49] <rob_p> !language > profesja
[09:49] <profesja> are you happy
[09:49] <seraph> kaiser need help?
[09:49] <mefuntee> darolu: u got me scared...
[09:49] <darolu> mefuntee: worms are usually a internal network issue, it is hard for them to spread due UNIX systems' structure; you have to access root password to install anything; you are safe don't worry
[09:49] <Kaiser1986> I would appreciate yes
[09:49] <profesja> i'm fucking sorry
[09:49] <profesja> please
[09:49] <seraph> so... tell me ur problem..
[09:49] <perlmonkey> stop that bad language you angry person
[09:49] <papsh> darolu, root password means nothing, if they're on the system they can do whatever they want
[09:49] <Slart> perlmonkey: leave it to the ops..
[09:49] <darolu> mefuntee: just use common sense and be careful about what you do when you run "sudo"
[09:49] <viaduk> just testng
[09:49] <viaduk> works perfectly
[09:49]  * perlmonkey hides
[09:49] <Kaiser1986> OK, I installed UBN 9.10 yd on my Compaq Mini 700
[09:50] <Kaiser1986> and managed to install the Broadcom B43 Wirless Driver
[09:50] <papsh> darolu, and even non-root can install and run hardware
[09:50] <Kaiser1986> and It's showing as Active and in use
[09:50] <papsh> errr software
[09:50] <darolu> papsh: they can be in the system but with no root access they can't harm much imo; if you mean physical access... then yes you're screwed lol
[09:50] <mefuntee> darolu: cant the worm gain access when i login as root to install somethin that i got frm the internet... and not frm the repositories?
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> I thought the B43 drivers got superceded by some other drivers (bcm?)
[09:51] <Kaiser1986> but I cannot get it to detect any wifi signals
[09:51] <mefuntee> darolu: thanks but it pays sometime to knw the possibilities...
[09:51] <darolu> mefuntee: no, don't worry
[09:51] <papsh> darolu, local privilege escalation is easier than remote exploitation
[09:51] <Slart> mefuntee: if you install infected binaries/source from the wild internet.. then yes.. you're owned
[09:51] <seraph> kaiser1986: try to go in applications -> accessories -> Terminal and then try with sudo pppoeconf
[09:51] <Slart> mefuntee: that's one of the reasons for using the repositories
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> Kaiser1986:  you may want to check the netbook forum threads for that netbook. It may be you dont want to use the ones from the rest4icted dr5ivers tool
[09:51] <darolu> papsh: indeed
[09:51] <System-7> That's what repos are for :D
[09:52] <papsh> expecting the default unix permissions system to protect you is naive
[09:52] <mefuntee> slart: owned? then how can i check my status, or gregain my freedom?
[09:52] <andrewfree> quick question, I'm using proftpd and trying to change config so root can login I read this http://www.proftpd.org/docs/directives/linked/config_ref_RootLogin.html and added RootLogin at the end of the config file then restarted the server and it still wont login
[09:52] <papsh> Slart, unless the repo servers are owned themselves
[09:52] <seraph> who needs help?
[09:53] <Slart> mefuntee: you'll sleep much better if you just assume your system will get burned, crashed, owned eventually.. prepare for it.. make regular backups.. make sure you have install media etc
[09:53] <manu_> good morning
[09:53] <ope> me
[09:53] <andrewfree> seraph: meh
[09:53] <manu_> seraph,
[09:53] <manu_> me :)
[09:53] <Malmis> hm does someone know if there is possible to pxe boot ie. debian live cd or ubuntu live cd as persistent when booting it from a nfs server? i mean, how could i access ie. casper-rw persistant filesystem when the livecd is mounted as cdrom? :/
[09:53] <Malmis> i can boot it as a live cd from nfs, but not accessing casper-rw
[09:53] <System-7> For some reason I love the whole repository thing... first time I saw a site telling me to type "sudo apt-get install ..." I was like "WhaT?"
[09:53] <Slart> mefuntee: that will let you handle anything from hardware failures, software failures, viruses.. your own mistakes and so on
[09:53] <mefuntee> slart: how consoling, especially to pple coming frm the world of 'windows'...
[09:54] <Slart> mefuntee: there are some apps that can check the system.. rkhunter is one of those
[09:54] <papsh> Slart, those things rarely work
[09:54] <Slart> mefuntee: I didn't say anything about which os you're supposed to run
[09:54] <papsh> there's really nothing effective anyone can do against rootkits
[09:55] <Slart> mefuntee: it's the same if you're running windows, linux, bsd or whatever.. sooner or later something will break.. be prepared for it and you'll be up and running within a couple of hours
[09:55] <papsh> once they're installed, that is
[09:55] <ardchoille> papsh: Excpet run rootkit scanners and watch what you install
[09:55] <ardchoille> papsh: yeah
[09:55] <papsh> rootkit scanners are a waste of time
[09:55] <mefuntee> slart: dont get me wrng, i mean it doent give much confidence to those migrating frm d windows platforms simply for the sake of securtiy
[09:55] <maddux> how is the strongest way to make ubuntu most thououghly seek out broken links or missing things?  some are not all updated.
[09:55] <System-7> Yeah, but Linux isn't as fool-proofed as Win
[09:55] <Dil3mm4> who's the founder of this channel?
[09:55] <syrius> !version
[09:55] <Slart> not sure rootkit scanners are reliable in these days of virtualization and such
[09:55] <researcher11> How to enable Java  Script  in mozilla firefox
[09:56] <syrius> does this work in all debian based distros? lsb_release -a
[09:56] <papsh> virtualization is the biggest security disaster since ie 6
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> researcher11:  what makes you think its disabled?
[09:56] <ardchoille> researcher11: it should already be enabled
[09:56] <Kaiser1986> still nothing here
[09:56] <cryptk> is there a way to disable Macintosh Mouse Button Emulation?
[09:56] <cryptk> I think it is interfering with my actual mouse
[09:57] <researcher11> Login link on http://www.aicte-india.org/ , last bottom green click not working Hence
[09:57] <Dil3mm4> kaiser are u sure that ur wifi hardware runs?
[09:57] <Slart> mefuntee: computers aren't reliable.. you can work around the clock for the rest of your life and still not have a 100% secure, safe system.. but you can spend a couple of hours to make sure you don't lose all your stuff when/if something bad happens
[09:57] <Ascavasaion> Thank you all.
[09:57] <Sacho> Computers are very reliable.
[09:58] <Sacho> People using computers are not.
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> researcher11:  try some other pages  perhaps you have noscript installed
[09:58] <Kaiser1986> yep, I mean when I load WinXP, wifi works fine
[09:58] <System-7> Computers are too flimsy today though
[09:58]  * Dr_Willis goes back to his C64
[09:58] <researcher11> Dr_Willis: can u let me know exactly what to do now?
[09:58] <System-7> My one modern laptop lasted about 2 years tops
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> researcher11:  check your plugins - see if you got it disabled or somthing. It IS enabled by default
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> researcher11:  or your settings
[09:59] <System-7> Now, my 1994 Performa is still kicking after 15+ years of continuos use
[09:59] <rabbi1> sorry ppl for the trouble, but i am ok with my IRC now :) thanks a lot again for patient
[09:59] <System-7> And then there's my Apple II
  did you install STA driver?
[09:59] <Slart> mefuntee: but this is getting more philosophical than technical now... you'll be better of, security wise, with a linux system than a windows system if you ask me.. just keep it updated.. use common sense.. and don't believe everything you read/hear on the internet  and you'll be fine
[09:59] <rabbi1> The pole caps are melting, the penguins are going into the computers,  the apples are falling from the trees and the glass in the windows is  shattering!
[09:59] <rabbi1> i got this in a blog
[10:00] <perlmonkey> whois and host don't work in my shell
[10:00] <researcher11> which plugin to be enabled
[10:00] <shelby> Hello. Grub-update does not create entry for windows xp
[10:00] <shelby> Help me please
[10:00] <Slart> mefuntee: and make backups..
[10:00] <System-7> I think the ice caps are actually growing
[10:00] <bolen> mbank
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> researcher11:  'noscript' disables java scripting i recall. ther may be others
[10:00] <Ascavasaion> System-7: You have an old apple II still?
[10:00] <rabbi1> sys7, which destro u user?
[10:00] <mefuntee> slart: thanks partner...good to hear those reassuring words again...
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> shelby:   you mean 'update-grub' ?
[10:00] <Kaiser1986> I have the broadcom b43 wireless driver installed and active
[10:00] <researcher11> so how do I undo the effect of noscript?
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> Kaiser1986:  b43 i think is the OLD driver. that may not work
[10:01] <researcher11> The site requirements are here http://www.aicte-india.org/siterequirements.html
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> researcher11:  IF you have it installed.. you can  whitelist some sites to allow scripting on those and not others
[10:01] <Kaiser1986> ok, so what should I install?
[10:01] <shelby> Dr_Willis, I have updated gru by 'sudo update-grub'
 work fine with bcm 4312 =)
[10:01] <denis123> Hi. I need to reinstall Ubuntu due to some problems with a bad install of a graphic card driver. What's the easiest way to do this. If I put the CD in and install in the same partition that I had it previously, will that work (and will it use the old swap space) or do I need to format the old Ubuntu partition via my secondary Windows install then install?
[10:01] <shelby> And It cannot find for me XP enty
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> Kaiser1986:  i would say check the forum poages for that netbook and see what they suggest
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> kohar:  they dont work with some netbooks i recall.
[10:02] <shelby> How to add it?
[10:02] <researcher11> Im quite new so dont know whats whitelist
[10:02] <Ascavasaion> We worked on Apple II computers in umm.. 1986 :)
 i see
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> researcher11:  #1 - check to see IF you even have noscript installed
[10:02] <papsh> they had computers in the 80's?
[10:02] <researcher11> how to check if noscript is installed
[10:02] <System-7> http://www.hawkinsroad.com/HNI_031.JPG
[10:03] <papsh> researcher11, Tools->plugins
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> researcher11:  explore your fiorefox extensions/plugins
[10:03] <System-7> http://www.hawkinsroad.com/HNI_0031.JPG
[10:03] <System-7> oops
[10:03] <researcher11> ok
[10:03] <shelby> anyone?
[10:03] <shelby> !grub2
 you can format during install process and yes it's gonna use old swap partition
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> I do belive the noscript extension adds an icon at the bottom right of the firefox status bar
[10:04] <System-7> Stupid cold killed my 5'' floppy drive, had to order a new on on ebay :/
[10:04] <rabbi1> guys, i still use Ubuntu, actually started, shld i go for Karmic, hws Karmic, i felt like digging some thing in hardy and then after few days to go to Karmic, am i right
[10:04] <papsh> System-7, you needed a 5.25 floppy?
[10:04] <denis123> kohar: Thanks for reply. Just to confirm. So I have my Ext4 partition currently used by Ubuntu. If I point the CD to install there (and which mount point do I use? Just / or /home?) it will format then install?
[10:04] <rabbi1> ppl still use flopped floppy ?
[10:04] <researcher11> noscript is not installed
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> rabbi1:  may as well use 9.10 if yiu are starting from new
[10:04] <System-7> Not people, just me probably :)
[10:04] <perlmonkey> whois bbc.co.uk = getaddrinfo(whois.nic.uk): Name or service not known
[10:04] <perlmonkey> :-/
[10:04] <rabbi1> Dr_willis, u from google?
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> researcher11:  have you tested other sites to see if javascript work on them?
[10:05] <researcher11> no
[10:05] <papsh> System-7, there are higher capability storage mediums available today
[10:05] <System-7> lol
[10:05] <rabbi1> s, would like to learns lots in Linux, so which would help?
[10:05] <papsh> or so I hear
[10:05] <papsh> rabbi1, ubuntu
[10:05] <researcher11> this link shows site requirement http://www.aicte-india.org/siterequirements.html
[10:05] <darolu> I sometimes use my floppy drive too, is a 3 1/2" though; I haven't used a 5 1/4" one in like 20 years
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> http://www.quackit.com/javascript/examples/
[10:06] <jugglerbry> morning all
[10:06] <researcher11> Am I expecting right results oor is IE7 a must?
[10:06] <jugglerbry> have a bit of an odd problem going  on with upgrading from Jaunty to Karmic upgrade via Update Manager, same thing happens.  All seems ok, except both keyboard and mouse are 100% unresponsive.  Any ideas ?
 if you have 1 partition ext4 then mount point / if you have 2 ext4 then you can use 1 for / other for /home, for format partition when installer ask you where to install choice custom
[10:06] <rabbi1> papsh, i am using hardy, jus started shld i switch to Karmic ?
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> rabbi1:  lots of reading -> learning linuix
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> rabbi1:  lots of using linux -> learning linux
[10:06] <ardchoille> researcher11: I haven't used anything but Firefox inyears
[10:06] <Seveas> rabbi1, yeah
[10:06] <denis123> kohar: ok awesome. Will do that. Thanks for your help!
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> researcher11:  no idea. Try a diffrent browser such as Opera or google chrome perhaps as a test
[10:06] <rabbi1> so, started already, fixed my resolution problem,
[10:06] <denis123> cya
[10:06] <papsh> rabbi1, hardy is long term support, so you could technically stay with it.
[10:06] <System-7> The one in the pic is a 3.5... it sucks that its such a pain to get software on those things aside from actually finding old disks
[10:06] <researcher11> ok
[10:06] <zvacet> I´m using lxde and I changes desktop setting so I´m not able to paste anything to desktop how can I revert desktop setting to default
[10:07] <researcher11> let me try
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> I dont even recall what LXDE uses for the 'desktop' there is the #lubuntu channel  they use lxde
[10:08] <System-7> I sort of collect a lot of old Apple stuff, System 7 era Macs, Newtons, printers, etc
[10:08] <jugglerbry> anyone?
[10:08] <System-7> heck somebody hacked together Debian for 68k
[10:08] <researcher11> can  Opera or google chrome work in ubuntu 9.10?
[10:08] <papsh> System-7, you must be single
[10:08] <darolu> Apple printer?
[10:08] <papsh> System-7, or have a very understanding wife/girlfriend
[10:09] <System-7> no I'm single :)
[10:09] <jugglerbry> researcher : yes. i;ve tried both of those
[10:09] <System-7> :'(
[10:09] <Krewl> Anyone here who has done the LPI ubuntu Exam and is willing to share some experiences on how the exam was? Going for it next Thuesday.
[10:09] <researcher11> how to install  Opera or google chrome?
[10:09] <mefuntee> researcher11: yes they do
[10:09] <shelby> Ppl, help with xp entry in grub2
[10:09] <mefuntee> researcher11: i have them both opened now...
[10:09] <shelby> grup-update does not find it.
[10:09] <papsh> System-7, you will one day be presented with a choice of your old computer crap or a woman. take it from your elder: stick with the computer crap
[10:10] <researcher11>  how to install  Opera or google chrome in Ubuntu 9.10?
[10:10] <System-7> Thanks for the advice ;)
[10:10] <jugglerbry> I just went to the relevant websites in firefox, and if i remember correctly, click the link for relevant distro
[10:10] <Myrtti> Krewl: perhaps you could ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:10] <zvacet> researcher11 : install it from http://www.opera.com/browser/download/
[10:10] <Slart> !opera | researcher11
[10:10] <darolu> researcher11: both have ubuntu packages at their respective websites.
[10:10] <Slart> !chrome  | researcher11
[10:10] <Slart> bah..
[10:10] <Krewl> Myrtti, Will have a look
[10:10] <mefuntee> researcher11: why not google them and choose your platform...
[10:10] <jugglerbry> have a bit of an odd problem going  on with upgrading from Jaunty to Karmic upgrade via Update Manager, same thing happens.  All seems ok, except both keyboard and mouse are 100% unresponsive.  Any ideas ?
[10:10] <Slart> !chromium | researcher11
[10:11] <darolu> researcher11: I recommend Chromium though, for some reason Chrome doesn't work fine in my computers, colours in my themes are all messed up
[10:12] <darolu> jugglerbry: can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[10:12] <zvacet> Dr_Willis : tnx for pointer
[10:13] <al_> when I try to run "sudo wine regedit.exe" I get "wine: /home/al/.wine is not owned by you
[10:13] <al_> help pls
[10:13] <Slart> al_: don't run wine as root
[10:13] <Kaiser1986> guys thanks, it's working like a charm
[10:13] <wertik_rus> without sudo
[10:14] <al_> hmmm
[10:14] <vega> hah, right-click on usb stick in nautilus gives "eject, unmount, safely remove" ... so which one to choose? i suppose this is the "usability" stuff in gnome
[10:14] <al_> that produces a few lines of errors like err:module:import_dll Library AUTHZ.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\al\\regedit.exe") not found
[10:14] <fez> hi
[10:14] <mefuntee> vega; u can use any but i prefer unmount which usually apeears first in the list...
[10:14] <Slart> vega: I'm not 100% sure.. but I think eject actually ejects CD drives and such.. unmount just .. well.. unmounts it.. safely remove I have no idea.. it unmounts it.. possibly something else as well
[10:15] <bullgard> [Karmic] How to switch my IBM Thinkpad T43 to numerical key pad? Shift+ScrollLock does not do the job. Neither Fn+ScrollLock.
[10:15] <System-7> hey, kohar, thanks :) Seems to be working
[10:15] <Slart> bullgard: isn't there a num lock key somewhere?
[10:16] <vega> yeah, would be surprised if eject actually popped out the usb stick on the floor..i know what they all mean but why oh why three choises, these are things that confuse the average user coming from windows
[10:17] <perlmonkey> host virginmedia.com;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[10:17] <perlmonkey> why?
[10:17] <vega> they don't know what "unmount" means, also eject shouldn't be visible at all for a usb stick
[10:17] <bullgard> Slart: There is. But pressing it does not have any effect.
[10:17] <vega> choices
[10:17] <jugglerbry> darolou:cant because kb and mouse are unresopnsive.  install or upgrade appear to go well, but after rebooting no reponse
 good =)
[10:18] <wertik_rus> perlmonkey, fire /etc/resolv.conf have dns which don't working
[10:18] <Slart> bullgard: hm... then I don't know, sorry
[10:18] <Brileigh> bullgard: hm... then I don't know, sorry
[10:18] <bullgard> Slart: Thank you.
[10:19] <perlmonkey> wertik_rus I think they
[10:19] <perlmonkey> are ok
[10:20] <perlmonkey> wertik_rus I managed to solve the problem but thank you for replying
[10:21] <wertik_rus> )
[10:22] <sebsebseb> Hi
[10:22] <jugglerbry> anyone know anything about usb devices in Sun VirtualMAchine ?  (sun version not the one from Ubuntu repositories)
[10:22] <padhu> wertik_rus: use openDNS IPS (<IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>) or Google DNS IPS (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[10:22] <sebsebseb> jugglerbry: they do in #vbox
[10:23] <perlmonkey> why should we use those DNS
[10:23] <sebsebseb> jugglerbry: also the manual you can download from the site/webserver does
[10:23] <jugglerbry> sebsebseb:thanks for that, i'll give it a try :)
[10:23] <perlmonkey> why not our ISPs, isn't it bad using Google for DNS they know then every site we access?
[10:23] <wertik_rus> padhu, I have't problem with dns servers )
[10:23] <padhu> jugglerbry: Me too. Any idea to install it in ubuntu?
[10:24] <perlmonkey> do you guys drink coffee or the tea stuff
[10:24] <sebsebseb> jugglerbry: ok np
[10:24] <sebsebseb> !ot | perlmonkey
[10:24] <perlmonkey> :-{}
[10:24] <padhu> wertik_rus: oh
[10:25] <jugglerbry> padhu:installing the vbox isnt a problem, but just cant get usb devices to work
[10:25] <darolu> jugglerbry: you did enable USB on your VM right?
[10:27] <alabd> How to make vpn does not affect on others app connection and to be just for browser ?
[10:27] <robbit10> Hello people. I'm having trouble booting from CD on a Sony VAIO. The boot order is set right, but it just doesn't detect the CD, and in Windows it shows it as empty, while on my Mac it shows the ubuntu cd stuff. Can anyone help me with this please?
[10:27] <jugglerbry> darlou:yup, enabled in settings, and also member of vbox users group
[10:28] <sebsebseb> robbit10: Still got the ISO?
[10:28] <_raven_> i need a midi sequenzer for simple midi recordings (without jack) - any ideas?
[10:28] <mefuntee> jugglerbry: just click on settings before loading the operating system and enable usb there...
[10:28] <mefuntee> jugglerbry: ...i think
[10:28] <sebsebseb> robbit10: Or your using an offical CD?
[10:29] <mefuntee> jugglerbry:...do u have guest additions installed?
[10:30] <jugglerbry> mefuntee:theyre showing as enabled in the guest OS, just not working
[10:30] <arjun> help - usb pen drive not getting detected
[10:30] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Yes, I still have the ISO.
[10:30] <darolu> jugglerbry: what's the content of your /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh file?
[10:31] <arjun> ?
[10:31] <_raven_> i need a midi sequenzer for simple midi recordings (without jack) - any ideas?
[10:31] <sebsebseb> robbit10: ok check it, make sure it's a good ISO,  then burn it a bit slower to a CD, burn the image a bit slower, and try that
[10:31] <sebsebseb> !mdtsum | robbit10
[10:31] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | robbit10
[10:31] <sebsebseb> robbit10: once you have done that, you can also run the disk check on the CD, which checks for errors
[10:32] <arjun> help usb pen drive not getting detected
[10:32] <sebsebseb> robbit10: if that pass's your psyical CD is ok
[10:32] <darolu> jugglerbry: you can try this http://stikiflem.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/enable-usb-support-in-virtualbox/
[10:33] <robbit10> sebsebseb: ... the ISO doesn't have an MD5 sum?!
[10:33] <_raven_> i need a MIDI SEQUENZER for simple midi recordings (without jack) - any ideas?
[10:33] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Okay, broken ISO right there.
[10:33] <arjun> :-(
[10:33] <sebsebseb> robbit10: yes it does
[10:33] <robbit10> sebsebseb: I mean my copy doesn't.
[10:34] <sebsebseb> robbit10: Your in Windows? If so you need a md5sum  program to get the code
[10:34] <sebsebseb> robbit10: then compare to what  they provide on website
[10:34] <sebsebseb> !ops | Valonia
[10:34] <robbit10> sebsebseb: I'm on Mac OS X
[10:34] <sebsebseb> Myrtti: :)
[10:35] <Seveas> _raven_, timidity
[10:35] <sebsebseb> robbit10: ok well you can use a md5sum program on Mac OS X. I don't use OS X, but I think it's probaby like Linux distros when it comes to checking ISO's
[10:36] <sebsebseb> robbit10: meaning you  can probably do it in the shell/terminal/konsole/command prompt (whatever you want to call it)
[10:36] <robbit10> sebsebseb: I used Disk Utility but it gave an error message saying the ISO has no md5 sum to check.
[10:36] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Which indicates that I have a seriously broken copy.
[10:36] <sebsebseb> robbit10: sometimes you need to tell these programs, what md5sum to compare to
[10:36] <Seveas> robbit10, no, just that you don't have the md5sum of the file. Just use the md5sum command in a terminal
[10:37] <syrius> how do I add a startup app from the commandline?
[10:37] <spye_ware> supp
[10:37] <robbit10> Seveas: Okay, thanks :)
[10:37] <sebsebseb> Seveas: :)  yep that's what I was on about,  and I assumed that could also be done on OS X
[10:37] <robbit10> !md5 > robbit10
[10:37] <Seveas> sebsebseb, I guess so. It has a terminal with a bsd-based-ish userland. Wouldn't be surprised if it has an md5sum command :)
[10:37] <phox_> Hi! How do i add a new theme in 9.1? When i go system-preferences-apperance, i dont see any buttom that says "custom", or "add" or something like that.
[10:38] <_raven_> Seveas, but timidity has no timeline...?
[10:38] <Kankiler-101486> la mallar ne yapýyonuz siz burada
[10:38] <syrius> startup applications uses cron?
[10:38] <spye_ware> dont know
[10:39] <Seveas> _raven_, you said sequencer, not editor/visualizatio thing :)
[10:39] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Ah, thanks :). The MD5 sum is okay.
[10:40] <robbit10> sebsebseb: But the Sony VAIO laptop still won't boot it.
[10:40] <spye_ware> ooi i cant get backtrack 4 to work need help i type in aircrack-ng nothin happen
[10:40] <sebsebseb> robbit10: burn a new CD and slower
[10:40] <robbit10> sebsebseb: But my Mac DOES boot it.
[10:40] <sebsebseb> robbit10: make sure your burning  the image contents also
[10:40] <sebsebseb> robbit10: not the ISO itself to CD
[10:40] <rumpsy> SolarisBoy: hey, are you busy?
[10:40] <robbit10> sebsebseb: I've burnt the contents of the ISO, at an extra-slow speed. Still, it will not boot on that laptop, but on my Mac it does boot.
[10:40] <rumpsy> SolarisBoy: if not you can me help me out
[10:40] <sebsebseb> robbit10: maybe for some reason it's burning oddly since your doing it on a Mac
[10:41] <robbit10> sebsebseb: That's why I tried it on the same laptop as well. Didn't work out. Still doesn't boot
[10:41] <sebsebseb> robbit10: ok
[10:41] <sebsebseb> robbit10: it seems that some computers Ubuntu won't boot on
[10:42] <robbit10> sebsebseb: But, last year I tried booting a live CD on it as well, and that one DID work.
[10:42] <sebsebseb> robbit10: also there are other ways you can try installing Ubuntu without a CD
[10:42] <_raven_> Seveas, ok i need any simple midi recording thing - like rosegarden but smaller, simpler and without jack....
[10:42] <sebsebseb> !install | robbit10
[10:42] <sebsebseb> !usb
[10:42] <robbit10> sebsebseb: I don't have permission to install, i borrowed the laptop - but I want to try the LiveCD
[10:42] <rumpsy> hey, i got this message from terminal, "The following packages have been kept back:"
[10:42] <sebsebseb> robbit10: Why?
[10:42] <kohar> syrius look at /etc/rc.d/
[10:42] <rumpsy> i donno what it meant?
[10:43] <sebsebseb> robbit10: Try a Live USB then,  or another distro maybe?
[10:43] <syrius> how do I add to that kohar ?
[10:43] <Mowee> Hi, since I updated from the last version of Firefix, I can't launch it :[
[10:43] <robbit10> sebsebseb: To check if all hardware works fine, until my parents decide whether they want to give me the laptop or not.
[10:43] <Mowee> Firefox*
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> rumpsy:  do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to update them
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> Mowee:  updated how exactly?
[10:43] <Mowee> apt-get update
[10:43] <rumpsy> Dr_Willis: oh, its for dist-upgrade?
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> rumpsy:  some packatges are more imporntant then others. and can get held back
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> rumpsy:  if you want to update them do that command
[10:44] <__doc__> hey I need some help *disabling* cursor control for my mouse by the wacom tablet (since GIMPs window relative handling works), I looked at my xorg.conf and wacom's not configured there, I also tried to change the path to my mouse driver (to the one that doesn't get wacom events, /dev/input/Mouse1, to no avail)
[10:44] <rumpsy> Dr_Willis: i'm having 8.04, if i did that upgrade, what will i have
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> rumpsy:  no idea.
[10:45] <__doc__> (this is 9.10)
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> rumpsy:  use the -v option (i think) to see what it will do
[10:45] <kohar> syrius ou can simple add to /etc/rc.local command wich you need start up when you boot
[10:45] <rumpsy> Dr_Willis: okay, wait i'll see that
[10:45] <robbit10> sebsebseb: I tried booting an old Ubuntu CD on that laptop, which usually works on all the other PC's. But no go, it still skips right to Windows. And the BIOS settings don't help either.
[10:45] <Pure> Hey
[10:45] <robbit10> sebsebseb: So it's not an ISO issue.
[10:45]  * rothsdad Happy Spring Festival~ Good luck to ubuntu~
[10:46] <Pure> Does server take less space than client?
[10:46] <sebsebseb> rothsdad: Spring Festival?????
[10:46] <sebsebseb> rothsdad: ok it's an issue with Ubuntu itself then it seems
[10:46] <sebsebseb> whoops wrong one ah
[10:46] <sebsebseb> robbit10: you could try another distro
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> Pure:  proberly does a little bit.
[10:46] <Pure> I don't think I'll need to install client
[10:47] <Pure> I'm planning on SSHing to it only
[10:47] <ikonia> Pure: what server/what client
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> Pure:  i always use desktop for my home servers anyway
[10:47] <ikonia> Pure: either can be as big/little as you make them
[10:47] <Pure> Ubuntu
[10:47] <rumpsy> Dr_Willis: its not correct option, its says something about current dpkg status
[10:47] <ikonia> Pure: ok - the desktop and the server installs can be made as big or as little as you want
[10:47] <_raven_> Seveas,
[10:47] <Pure> How so?
[10:48] <ikonia> Pure: you can put/remove as many packages as you want
[10:48] <HektoR> hi all. guys i'm configuing vmware server 2.0 on ubuntu and i'm getting this error -> "Unable to build the vmmon module." can anyone help to fix this ?
[10:48] <ikonia> Pure: they are based on the same core OS, so you can put as much or as little on either asyou want
[10:48] <Pure> But, if I only plan to SSH to it, can I do away with clients features?
[10:48] <ikonia> HektoR: try with #vmware
[10:48] <sebsebseb> HektoR: it seems that not that many people use VMware products on Ubuntu,  anyway I expect #vmware could help you
[10:48] <ikonia> Pure: just remove the desktop from the desktop install and it will be fine
[10:48] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Nope, it seems it doesn't boot from any disk at all.
[10:49] <robbit10> sebsebseb: I mean CD
[10:49]  * __doc__ goes on to mess with /usr/share/hal/fdi
[10:49] <rumpsy> Dr_Willis: i found that, its a kernel update from, 2.6.24-26 to 2.6.24-27
[10:49] <sebsebseb> robbit10: it's probably a problem with Ubuntu itself
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> rumpsy:  thats normal for kernel updates. they often dont want to force them on people
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> rumpsy:  the --dry-run optionjust shows what it would do but dosent do it :)
[10:50] <Pure> This is confusing, is there any advantage of having one over the other?
[10:50] <ikonia> Pure: on differnt hardware yes
[10:50] <_raven_> Seveas, ?
[10:50] <ikonia> Pure: if you are using home user kit - use the desktop
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> Pure:  for my home i install desktop version and install what services i need
[10:50] <ikonia> _raven_: what do you want ?
[10:50] <Pure> Ok
[10:50] <rumpsy> Dr_Willis: ty :)
[10:51] <Seveas> _raven_, ?
[10:51] <Pure> Does this wubi work well?
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> Pure:  i wouldent suggest using wubi at all
[10:51] <ikonia> Pure: my personal opion of wubi is very poor, that said other users find it a useful way to test using ubuntu
[10:51] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Nope, it doesn't even boot my Windows XP CD
[10:51] <_raven_> ikonia, i need a simple midi recorder which runs without jack) - any ideas?
[10:51] <sebsebseb> robbit10: some sort of hardware issue maybe then, what type of XP CD?
[10:51] <ikonia> _raven_: not a big audio processor on linux so, no idea
[10:52] <sebsebseb> Pure: better to use real partitions in the long run, plus  wubi can mess up oddly on people, when they uninstall it, that kind of thing
[10:52] <Pure> Fair enough
[10:53] <Pure> Which would be best to download, size wise, alternate, desktop or server?
[10:53] <Pure> I have a VERY slow connection
[10:53] <ikonia> Pure: alterntive is the smaller
[10:53] <ikonia> Pure: less pretty interface to install from though
[10:53] <Pure> Thanks
[10:53] <sebsebseb> Pure: usueally people install from the desktop CD
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> Pure:  the sizes are all under 700mb
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> Pure:  there is a ubuntu minimal you may want to try then
[10:53] <Pure> How long at 56k?
[10:54] <ikonia> Pure: too long
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> Pure:  id go to the local book store and get a magazine with ubuntu in it
[10:54]  * Pure sighs
[10:54] <sebsebseb> Pure: also you can order offical CD's from Canonical for free, but might take 4 to 6 weeks before getting
[10:54] <ikonia> Pure: you may want to consider going to a public internet place, library/cafe/university etc
[10:54] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Check your Private Messages
[10:55] <euryale> can anyone tell me how to install jre 1.4.x
[10:55] <euryale> i need it for vuze which ain't working
[10:55] <sebsebseb> !java | euryale
[10:55] <euryale> ok thanks alot!
[10:55] <ZiG|ZaG> if i issue a mv command from source to target, how do i indicate to move to the current directory without typing the whole path?
[10:55] <sebsebseb> euryale: np
[10:56]  * Pure laughs, 0745 hours at my speed
[10:56] <sebsebseb> Pure: sounds about right on 56k I think
[10:56] <anternat> ....
[10:56] <lvlint> ZiG|ZaG, mv source.txt source.bck     doesn't work?
[10:56] <sebsebseb> Pure: so in that case,  may as well get the desktop
[10:56] <Pure> Amazingly, my speed is clamped network side, not isp side
[10:57] <sebsebseb> Pure: since then you can test your hardware  before installing Ubuntu
[10:57] <sebsebseb> Pure: where as with the alternate you can't
[10:57] <ikonia> ZiG|ZaG: you either need to be in the directory containing the source, or use the full path
[10:57] <ZiG|ZaG> lvlint, why yes, yes it does
[10:57] <Slart> ZiG|ZaG: ./
[10:57] <ZiG|ZaG> ikonia yah
[10:57] <Pure> It would be nice if etas for torrents were accurate
[10:57] <sebsebseb> Pure: Which are you getting?
[10:58] <Pure> Desktop now
[10:58] <ikonia> Pure: they will change depending on what's online - they normally are active
[10:58] <ikonia> accurate
[10:58] <ZiG|ZaG> ikonia also if you just define the filename in the target directory
[10:58] <sebsebseb> Pure: Desktop ok good :)
[10:58] <Pure> There's only 200KB difference from the two
[10:59] <Pure> I'll probably stop it at somepoint, so I don't get traffic shaped
[10:59] <Pure> Not that my speed can get any worse
[11:01] <euryale> sebsebseb
[11:01] <sebsebseb> euryale: yes?
[11:01] <octavio> Howdy folks
[11:01] <euryale> i downloaded jre-6u18-linux-i586.rpm from java website isn't that jre i need?
[11:01] <euryale> and installed it
[11:01] <sebsebseb> euryale: you don't do rpm
[11:02] <sebsebseb> euryale: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre  I belive
[11:02] <euryale> ah
[11:02]  * octavio just installed Ubuntu and is overwhealmed
[11:02] <Pure> Ack, 3.5 seconds of lag
[11:02] <sebsebseb> euryale: Ubuntu uses Deb,  RPM is what Redhat and Fedora and such will use
[11:02] <euryale> ok lemme try brb
[11:03] <sebsebseb> euryale: Mandriva as well
[11:04] <sebsebseb> robbit10: ok back to channel I think
[11:04] <robbit10> sebsebseb: okay
[11:04] <euryale> oh
[11:04] <euryale> and i installed it
[11:04] <euryale> how do i remove it
[11:04] <sebsebseb> robbit10:  maybe other people will know why,  Ubuntu CD's won't boot up on that lap top
[11:04] <foens> Hello Ubuntu community. I am having a problem with my sound: It says some funny sounds when the some sounds is going to be played. Ehm - hard to explain. Im on a HP Laptop
[11:04] <euryale> i used ./file and it walked me through the installation
[11:04] <euryale> with rpm file
[11:04] <sebsebseb> robbit10: ,but I have read stuff before  that basically seems to say that  Ubuntu won't work on certain computers
[11:04] <robbit10> Okay -- to everyone in this channel, i have a Sony VAIO laptop here that won't boot up from ANY cd whatsover. Anyone know how to fix this?
[11:05] <ikonia> euryale: rpm's are targeted to work on ubuntu
[11:05] <ikonia> robbit10: contact your supplier, sounds like the laptop has an issue
[11:05] <robbit10> The boot order in the BIOS is set right, so that isn't it.
[11:05] <Pure> Change it in the bios?
[11:05] <euryale> what do you mean targeted
[11:05] <ikonia> keep in mind the channel is only for ubuntu issues
[11:05] <ikonia> euryale: ok, compatible
[11:06] <robbit10> ikonia: It is loosely related - i'm trying to run the LiveCD.
[11:06] <sebsebseb> ikonia: Maybe I read that wrong or something,  you said RPM's work on Ubuntu?   I know they do in Alien, but that's not recommended
[11:06] <euryale> ah ok
[11:06] <euryale> ty
[11:06] <ikonia> robbit10: not related if you you're laptop won't work
[11:06] <ikonia> sebsebseb: you did read that wrong
[11:06] <robbit10> ikonia: Then where do I seek support?
[11:06] <ikonia> robbit10: contact your laptop vendor
[11:07] <kohar> robbit10 did you burn .iso to cd? and did you set cd-drive first drive to load?
[11:07] <kohar> *boot
[11:07] <sebsebseb> ikonia: misunderstood nevermind though
[11:08] <mokmeister> anybody here have any success connecting a Vodafone huawei k3765 on 8.04?
[11:08] <robbit10> kohar: yes
[11:09] <kohar> robbit10 system do not see cd in drive and continue load win?
[11:09] <robbit10> sebsebseb: please check your Private messages
[11:09] <robbit10> kohar: indeed
[11:10] <sebsebseb> robbit10: you could of just put what you just did there, in the channel
[11:10] <robbit10> sebsebseb:  It seems the CD-rom player doesn't work in Windows either. It displays the right filesize but it also shows up as an empty CD. When you open it it asks to format it.
[11:10] <euryale> damn 30 mb of java ¬¬
[11:11] <euryale> they should include this stuff in the cd wth!
[11:11] <sebsebseb> robbit10: ok  probably some sort of hardware issue
[11:11] <ikonia> sebsebseb: nnot a problem
[11:11] <kohar> robbit10  try ultraiso or nero to burn .iso image
[11:11] <sebsebseb> robbit10: or imgburn if your on Windows doing it
[11:12] <sebsebseb> robbit10: what about other CD's,  do they work with that CD drive?
[11:12] <kohar> robbit10 if it didn't help then contact your vendor for replace
[11:12] <brumen_> ubuntu works really well
[11:12] <robbit10> sebsebseb: no
[11:12] <sebsebseb> robbit10: you have tried, so no CD's work properly in that drive?
[11:13] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Indeed, i also tried to boot the WIndows XP cd.
[11:13] <ikonia> robbit10: ok - contact your laptop vendor, this is not an ubuntu issue please.
[11:14] <johana> hola
[11:14] <sebsebseb> robbit10: I guess what kohar and ikonia  put, plus you can take your hardware issue/s to ##hardware
[11:14] <sebsebseb> !es |  johana
[11:15] <papul> is firefox 3.5 available yet?