[00:49] <Bodsda> hi, im trying to upload some code for my project on launchpad. When i try to do the push i get the error "Permission denied (publickey).
[00:49] <Bodsda> "
[00:50] <Bodsda> I created the key a while ago and  have since reinstalled at least a dozen times
[00:50] <Bodsda> what should i do?
[00:51] <mwhudson> Bodsda: do you still have the key?
[00:52] <Bodsda> mwhudson: i put my pgp and ssh keys on launchpad
[00:53] <mwhudson> Bodsda: there seems to be a problem with the server, you may be doing nothing wrong
[00:54] <Bodsda> ok... but i think il have problems anyway, as bzr has no way of knowing my key
[00:54] <mwhudson> bzr launches ssh
[00:54] <mwhudson> does ssh know about your key?
[00:55] <Bodsda> mwhudson: nope
[00:55] <mwhudson> well, then you need to tell it
[00:55] <Bodsda> mwhudson: ok, how do i do that?
[00:57] <mwhudson> are you on unix?
[00:57] <mwhudson> do you still have the private part of the ssh key?
[00:58] <Bodsda> mwhudson: im running ubuntu, and no i dont
[00:58] <mwhudson> you'll need to make a new key then
[00:58] <Bodsda> mwhudson: ok, got any links that tell me how? :)
[01:03] <Bodsda> mwhudson: dw, i got one, cheers
[01:10] <ajmitch> Bodsda: the part that you have to keep safe is your private key, which doesn't get published anywhere
[01:17] <Bodsda> ajmitch: ok, cheers.. One question, about gpg keys. Launchpad have now sent me an email encrypted with my key, but how do i decrypt it, im using yahoo
[01:18] <Bodsda> do I 'have' to use a mail client such as thunderbird/evolution etc. Cause thats a problem as thunderbird + yahoo = headaches
[01:20] <xnox> what's up with the test rebuild? are you rebuild the whole archive in the ppas?
[01:21] <mwhudson> Bodsda: if you 'view original', and paste the encrypted bit into a file, you should be able to cat the-file | gpg --decrypt
[01:21] <mwhudson> (i think, something like that anyway)
[01:24] <Bodsda> mwhudson: ah, got it, ty#
[01:32] <tansell> is anyone able to help me with - https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/69460 ?
[03:11] <batoms_> my build isn't scheduled to rebuild for 9 more days
[03:13] <jmarsden> batoms_: That means the builders are really busy, or something bad happened... see http://launchpad.net/builders for their status
[03:13] <wgrant> batoms_: I presume you hit 'Retry'?
[03:14] <wgrant> batoms_: There's a bug at the moment that retries are prioritised behind the Ubuntu test rebuild, but normal builds should be fine.
[03:14] <jmarsden> ?  I just browse there.  Hmmm: "i386      7280 builds waiting in queue" -- I'd say the builders *are* busy!
[03:14] <batoms_> wgrant: its a rebuild
[03:14] <ajmitch> a mere few minutes to complete
[03:14] <wgrant> jmarsden: That's the Ubuntu rebuild test; those builds are scheduled behind everything except language packs and retries.
[03:15] <batoms_> but 9 days...that seems crazy
[03:15] <jmarsden> Ah, OK.  Thanks.
[03:15] <wgrant> batoms_: Sounds like you need somebody to bump up your build score a bit.
[03:15] <wgrant> batoms_: Archive rebuilds take a while.
[03:15] <wgrant> I hate to think how long an hppa rebuild test would take.
[03:16] <ajmitch> just be glad there's no m68k
[03:16] <wgrant> True.
[03:20] <batoms_> wgrant: how do i get my build score bumped up
[03:23] <tansell> so.. anyone able to help me by increasing my PPA's size?
[03:23] <mwhudson> tansell: most admin-y people are traveling today, i think
[03:24] <tansell> mwhudson, dang
[03:24] <tansell> mwhudson, I think I've finally got this package mostly in shape but ran out of quota again :(
[03:24] <tansell> stupid debug packages take up around 200mb each
[03:37] <wgrant> tansell: The PPA mentioned in that question is practically empty...
[04:06] <tansell> wgrant, because I created a second PPA after I ran out
[04:07] <tansell> https://launchpad.net/~mithro/+archive/mithro2
[06:06] <Bodsda> Hi, im trying to push a branch for my project for the first time, but im getting an error, Launchpad user 'bod' doesn't have a registered SSH key -- but thats not true, you can see from my profile that i havew  registered my ssh key
[06:37] <VK7HSE> Is there any known issues with LP not loading on Opera ???
[06:58] <VK7HSE> never mind, after a reboot all has returned to normal! :-/
[08:06] <Bodsda> Hi, im trying to push some code for my project but when i do i get this error, any ideas whats going wrong, I have got ssh keys. -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/174742/
[08:07] <soren> Bodsda: You need to put your public key on Launchpad.
[08:07] <soren> https://edge.launchpad.net/~bod shows that you haven't yet.
[08:07] <soren> Er...
[08:07] <soren> https://launchpad.net/~bod
[08:07] <Bodsda> try https://launchpad.net/~bodsda
[08:07] <Bodsda> ~bod is not me :)
[08:09] <Bodsda> soren: im pretty sure its on there
[08:10] <soren> Bodsda: Then you need to tell bzr that bod isn't you.
[08:10] <Bodsda> soren: how do i do that?
[08:10] <soren> bzr launchpad-login bodsda
[08:10] <Bodsda> k, ty
[08:11] <Bodsda> soren: that didnt seem to work, should it have asked me for a password or something?
[08:12] <soren> Bodsda: Nope.
[08:13] <Bodsda> soren: ok, then its still not recognizing me. http://paste.ubuntu.com/174746/
[08:13] <tansell> is there a way to get stats on the various ppa build machines?
[08:14] <tansell> I'm wondering if they all have the same amount of memory
[08:26] <warp10> I changed my launchpad contact address on friday, but my @ubuntu.com still forward to the old primary address. Can someone help me with this issue?
[08:27] <primes2h> Hello. Last Tuesday I became Ubuntu Member but I doesn't have email redirecting still active yet (@ubuntu.com).Can someone help me with this issue too? :-)
[08:28] <soren> Bodsda: Oh.
[08:28] <primes2h> s/doesn't/don't
[08:28] <soren> Bodsda: If you're specifying the sftp address directly like that, the launchpad-login thing doesn't factor into it.
[08:28] <soren> It's only used if you're using lp: style urls.
[08:29] <soren> If you want use sftp urls, put your username in the url<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:29] <Bodsda> ok, il give it a go cheers
[08:30] <Bodsda> soren: ah brilliant, thanks dude, that works :)
[08:37] <soren> Bodsda: The lp style url would be: lp:~bodsda/cheatsheet/dev-cheatsheet
[09:09] <primes2h> Hello. Last Tuesday I became Ubuntu Member but I doesn't have email redirecting still active yet (@ubuntu.com).Can someone help me with this issue? :-)
[09:10] <primes2h> s/doesn't/don't
[09:10] <primes2h> d/still
[09:11] <persia> primes2h, 1) You probably want to contact the Ubuntu Membership people, rather than the launchpad people.  2) It can take a while (sometimes it's a couple days, sometimes it's a few months)
[09:24] <primes2h> persia: Thank you for the explanation.
[09:29] <persia> primes2h, Sorry it's not clearer.  I just don't understand the trick to make it happen.  It was about 3 months for me.
[09:33] <primes2h> persia: it's written 48 hours in the wiki. it's quite the same ;-)
[09:34] <primes2h> persia: I wrote an email looking for help about this. Let's wait... :-)
[15:43] <lnb_> what is the 'normal' ppa for 9.04 ?
[15:44] <noodles775> lnb_: I'm not sure what you mean? What is it you are trying to do or answer?
[15:45] <lnb_> in software sources..
[15:45] <lnb_> http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu
[15:45] <lnb_> i mean that
[15:45] <lnb_> there are more
[15:46] <lnb_> but I am not certain which are the 'right' or 'normal' ones to have
[15:46] <beuno> lnb_, what does that have to do with launchpad?
[15:46] <noodles775> lnb_: yes, so they are not actually PPAs, but are just the normal software sources for your ubuntu installation... I'll try to find a link showing what the 'normal' ones should be.
[15:47] <lnb_> i put 'ubuntu ppa sources' in google and launchpad came up
[15:48] <noodles775> lnb_: yes, because you searched for ppa - but what you're looking for isn't actually anything to do with ppas.
[15:48] <lnb_> ok
[15:48] <lnb_> repositories then?
[15:49] <noodles775> lnb_: yep, I'm still looking for a good page with what you should see there :)
[15:50] <lnb_> this one tells you how but not what the urls are.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[15:52] <noodles775> lnb_: So if you follow that page you can see exactly what you've currently got selected...
[15:52] <noodles775> lnb_: and then if you, in a terminal, type:
[15:52] <noodles775> less /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:52] <lnb_>  /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[15:52] <lnb_> right
[15:53] <noodles775> you'll see most of them.
[15:53] <lnb_> that is the entire list ?
[15:53] <noodles775> If you've done any customization, you may also have some extra options under /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[15:58] <soren> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/ says I'm not allowed there?
[15:59] <soren> What did I do to deserve this? :)
[15:59] <persia> soren, are you logged in?  are you behind a strange proxy?  It works for me, and I'm not logged in (and don't typically use edge)
[16:00] <soren> persia: Logged in.
[16:00] <soren> persia: No proxy (that I know of).
[16:00] <persia> Odd.
[16:00] <soren> Very.
[16:00] <soren> Hence the question :)
[16:01]  * beuno looks
[16:01] <beuno> soren, it's a known bug
[16:02] <soren> beuno: Oh, ok.
[16:02] <soren> beuno: Thanks. I wasn't sure where to look to see if that was the case.
[16:03]  * beuno tries to find the bug #
[16:04] <beuno> soren, I can't find the bug #
[16:04] <beuno> would you like to file it just in case?
[16:07] <soren> beuno: Sure, I can do that.
[16:07] <beuno> thanks soren
[16:13] <soren> Oh. Same error on non-edge.
[16:13] <soren> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/377963
[17:08] <little> Hey there, anybody home?
[17:10] <beuno> little, not many of
[17:10] <beuno> most people are travelling this week
[17:10] <beuno> what's up?
[17:11] <little> If I have a suggestion for improving the instructions on https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Adding%20a%20PPA%20to%20your%20Ubuntu%20repositories who do I contact?
[17:12] <beuno> little, drop an email to MAtt<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:12] <little> Thanks!
[17:39] <jmehdi> Hi, on this team page: https://launchpad.net/~sabily.team I'd like to remove the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>address but I don't find how...
[17:46] <little> Did you succeed? I don't see it on that page.
[17:47] <jmehdi> in "contact details" under<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:51] <little> It's not visible when I load the page. Are you currently editing the page? Maybe it only shows when you're editing it.
[17:52] <jmehdi> are you logged in?
[17:52] <little> No.
[17:53] <jmehdi> if you are logged in you will see two emails
[17:53] <little> Okay, I see it now.
[17:54] <little> Are you able to edit the page?
[17:55] <jmehdi> yep
[17:55] <little> Does it show that address when you're in edit mode?
[17:55] <jmehdi> no
[17:55] <little> What do you see when you edit? Is it a series of questions with boxes that you have to tick or is it raw HTML code?
[17:56] <jmehdi> questions with boxes
[17:56] <little> Are there any that have anything to do with Contact detals?
[17:57] <little> Maybe if you click one, it will open up a text box with a list of contacts that you can edit.
[17:58] <little> It's also possible it's done automatically based on who's a member of the team. Maybe one of the members has that email address and has chosen to have his/her address shown as a contact.
[17:59] <savvas> it doesn't show up in edge: https://edge.launchpad.net/~sabily.team
[18:01] <savvas> jmehdi: do you see it here? https://launchpad.net/~sabily.team/+contactaddress
[18:02] <jmehdi> savvas: no I don't
[18:02] <little> I'm not allowed access to that last page.
[18:02] <jmehdi> http://yfrog.com/4ocontactnp
[18:02] <little> Could it be an example contact address put there by default?
[18:03] <little> Did you set up a mailing list like it says on http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/722/contactn.png
[18:04] <savvas> jmehdi: when was this team created with that google group in contact details?
[18:05] <jmehdi> savvas: it's a long time because we have changed the name ubuntume to sabily
[18:05] <jmehdi> little: yes the mailing list is active
[18:06] <jmehdi> that may be the problem, that the team has been renamed
[18:07] <savvas> I'd file a question at http://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad and ask for the removal of<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(in "contact details") from https://launchpad.net/~sabily.team (also mention that it is not visible from https://edge.launchpad.net/~sabily.team)
[18:07] <jmehdi> savvas: ok, thanks
[18:08] <little> Another happy ending. (:
[18:09] <savvas> it's really a weird though :P
[18:12] <little> If that part on http://yfrog.com/4ocontactnp that mentions a mailing list applies to it, then that would explain it. That ubuntume address is probably part of the mailing list.
[18:12] <little> jmehdi: Are you able to edit the mailing list?
[18:38] <jmehdi> little: yes I'm the owner of the team
[18:40] <little> Then maybe you can look through the mailing list and see if ubuntume is a member and remove that member from the mailing list to get it to update on the Launchpad page automatically.
[18:42] <jmehdi> little: it's not a member...
[18:44] <little> Then the best bet is to do what savvas suggested and write to launchpad.
[18:45] <jmehdi> little: yep I've filed a question, wait and see ;)
[18:46] <little> Hopefully they'll fix it. (:
[19:24] <savvas> um.. for some reason https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnote shows the launchpad bug to be closed, but the bug watch updater didn't set it to fix released, LP: #364931)
[19:24] <hexmode> I have a personal PPA, but I want to upload packages to the team PPA.  How can I do that?
[19:24] <savvas> rephrase: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnote shows the launchpad bug to be closed, but for some reason the bug watch updater didn't set it to fix released, bug #364931
[19:27] <savvas> hexmode: you can copy over a) the binaries or b) the source and rebuild
[19:27] <savvas> hexmode: go to your ppa, choose "Copy packages" and point the destination PPA and which mode you want
[19:27] <little> hexmode: This might help https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[19:28] <hexmode> savvas: How would I copy them w/o the web interface?
[19:29] <hexmode> savvas: nm... not important
[19:30] <savvas> hexmode: upload them again :)
[19:30] <savvas> hexmode: however, you could use the w3m browser for command line
[19:30] <hexmode> ok, but... what do I put in dput.cf to upload to the different ppa?
[19:30] <hexmode> right now I have "incoming = ~%(ppa)s/ubuntu"
[19:31] <hexmode> should I change that, or something else?
[19:31] <savvas> here's my ~/.dput.cf file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/175108/
[19:32] <hexmode> savvas: thanks, that gives me a clue
[19:42] <savvas> hexmode: np, however I still think w3m would save you some time :)
[19:42] <hexmode> savvas: that, and reading over the dput section on that page you linked me to.... been a while since I messed with dput.cf
[19:43] <savvas> hexmode: that's easy, you just use your username
[19:43] <savvas> [myname] = this would be used in the command: dput myname file.changes
[19:44] <savvas> the rest are from https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Uploading :)
[19:45] <james_w> savvas: auto-closing only works for bugs that are against a package, not against the full distribution
[19:45] <hexmode> sure, it was the multiple ppa bit I didn't grok.  But thanks for your help.
[19:47] <james_w> hexmode: you can also do "dput ppa:username/ppaname package.changes", rather than adding a stanza for each PPA you upload to
[19:47] <hexmode> ooo! nice
[19:53] <savvas> james_w: thanks :)
[20:30] <satirik> hey there
[20:31] <satirik> anyone can review my translation file on launchpad here pls ?
[20:34] <savvas> satirik: canadian? try asking in #ubuntu-ca :)
[20:35] <satirik> not really canadian but i can try
[20:42] <satirik> where are the launchpad admin or moderators talking ?
[20:51] <hexmode> any way to grant people on a lp team besides the team creator rights to upload to the PPA?
[20:51] <mneptok> satirik: getting impatient after 11 miutes of waiting is ... well ... hrmf ...
[20:52] <LarstiQ> hexmode: make the ppa owend by the team?
[20:52] <beuno> hexmode, everyone that's prt of the team con upload
[20:52] <beuno> right, what LarstiQ said
[20:52] <beuno> satirik, Kaunchpad devs and admins are travelling
[20:53] <beuno> maybe jtv can take care of it
[20:53] <beuno> but 48hs wait is about normal
[20:54] <hexmode> LarstiQ, beuno: I am a member of the team, but got a permission denied on upload: https://edge.launchpad.net/~intrahealth+informatics/+archive/ppa/+builds
[20:57] <beuno> hexmode, you got an email?
[20:57]  * beuno summons cprov
[20:58] <hexmode> beuno: yes.  "signer has no upload rights at all to this distribution"
[20:59] <noodles775> hexmode: are you sure you uploaded it to the ppa and not to the ubuntu distro?
[20:59] <hexmode> hrm... lemme double check
[21:00] <beuno> hexmode, check your .dput.cf
[21:00] <hexmode> doh! you're right
[21:00] <hexmode> sorry... trying again
[21:02] <cprov> noodles775 rules soyuz land!
[21:02]  * cprov is packing-distracted
[21:05] <beuno> cprov, same here  :)
[21:05] <beuno> I've got a slightly longer flight though
[21:08] <cprov> beuno: yeah, hurry up! :)
[21:13] <satirik> beuno: it's been 5days actually not 48hours
[21:14] <satirik> beuno: it's no big deal but it would be great if someone could review it :)
[21:15] <beuno> satirik, I'll try and poke people tomorrow, but all Canonical is either traveling or in meetings at the moment
[21:15] <beuno> (or procrastinating on IRC to avoid packing)
[21:15] <satirik> beuno: ok thank you
[21:36] <maxb> I have a variety of different teams created before multiple PPAs were possible
[21:36] <maxb> Should I now just create one umbrella team, create lots of PPAs under it, and ask for the old ones to be deleted?
[21:37] <maxb> Or is there a nicer way?
[21:37] <SamB> maxb: old teams, or old ppas?
[21:37] <beuno> maxb, there's no nicer way
[21:37] <maxb> both!
[21:38] <SamB> and do the teams have at all different memberships?
[21:38] <maxb> NO
[21:38] <maxb> oops, sorry for accidental caps
[21:38] <SamB> well, I guess you might as well do what you just said, then ...
[21:39] <maxb> What's the current situation re PPA signing key generation? Do I have to create the "default" PPA called PPA, and upload something to it, before a signing key will be generated?
[21:41] <SamB> I thought each PPA got a key ?
[21:42] <kiko> maxb, they are generated periodically in a batch job
[21:42] <kiko> you get one key per PPA owner
[21:42] <kiko> which makes the key management simpler
[21:42] <SamB> kiko: what was it, every half hour ?
[21:42] <kiko> I thought it was every 5 minutes
[21:42] <SamB> oh
[21:42] <SamB> could be
[21:42] <SamB> I knew it was some even fraction of an hour!
[21:44] <maxb> bug 371557 still open, so I guess I do have to put something in the default ppa, even though I don't actually want a default ppa for this team
[23:02] <maxb> Hmm
[23:02] <maxb> One of the problems with making primary archive URLs no longer work but instead forward to the distros page, is that it requires some URL-munging ingenuity to copy packages from a primary archive into a PPA
[23:14] <wgrant> maxb: That is a bit of a problem, yes. And Archive:+index can clearly handle an archive full of packages now, so there shouldn't be many tweaks needed to make it work well for PRIMARY and PARTNER archives.
[23:14] <wgrant> But +copy-packages seems to still time out a lot, so maybe linking to it isn't a good idea.
[23:28] <ausimage_oui> I need help mirroring a junk branch of mine to a new project series
[23:33] <maxb> Hmm. I just got a "different rich-root support" trying to upload a local branch of cdbs to launchpad
[23:33] <ausimage_oui> k. I truly do not know how to make it work :/
[23:34] <maxb> I think it's because LP chose the wrong branch to stack upon
[23:34] <maxb> What's the correct syntax to override that?
[23:35] <wgrant> maxb: I'd try --stacked-on=http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~path/to/branch
[23:35] <maxb> even though I'm pushing over ssh?
[23:35] <wgrant> Yes.
[23:36] <ausimage_oui> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ausimage/+junk/PbParser ==> https://edge.launchpad.net/soovee/pbparse-0.9/
[23:36] <ausimage_oui> i want the first to show up as a mirrored series in the last
[23:36] <ausimage_oui> and LP is not seeming to cooperate
[23:36] <wgrant> ausimage_oui: There's already a branch attached to that series...
[23:36] <ausimage_oui> can I remove it?
[23:37] <wgrant> maxb: There used to be a bug that LP wouldn't recognise that URL as one of its own branches, but I think that was fixed.
[23:37] <wgrant> ausimage_oui: Yes, by hitting the delete link at the top of https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ausimage/soovee/PbParser
[23:37] <wgrant> But...
[23:38] <wgrant> You can't easily move that +junk branch to the project now.
[23:38] <ausimage_oui> what is the way to do that?
[23:38] <wgrant> Actually, you might be able to for a few more days, if you turn off the edge redirect.
[23:39] <wgrant> Because on edge, you can no longer change a branch's project.
[23:39] <ausimage_oui> ?
[23:39] <wgrant> Try going to https://launchpad.net/, disable the redirect, and go to https://code.launchpad.net/~ausimage/+junk/PbParser/+edit
[23:39] <wgrant> Then you can specify the project.
[23:44] <ausimage_oui> coolness that worked thanks wgrant
[23:45] <wgrant> ausimage_oui: Then you can set it as the series branch in the usual manner.
[23:45] <ausimage_oui> yup... thanks much :)


[21:21] <ralph> Ive been having a problen trying to install 16.04.4
[21:23] <ralph> It just stops after package install and will not install the rest and it just sits there. Ideas?
[21:24] <ralph> 16.04.3 does fine but this new one...
[21:27] <ralph> tried 17.10 with the same results. Must be me or my system. But I don't know where to look


[12:16] <mjg59> Micksa: Rock
[12:16] <mjg59> Micksa: vbetool is probably what you need
[05:33] <Micksa> mjg59: the PCI config for the card gets trashed
[05:40] <Micksa> I believe it's PCI express
[05:43] <Micksa> vebtool doesn't appear to help
[05:52] <Micksa> okay, so maybe I'll have to read the PCI spec 8)
[05:57] <lamont> g'night all
[06:27] <fabbione> morning
[06:31] <fabbione> hey dilinger
[06:47] <fabbione> lamont: i guess you did commit to your local tree, didn't you?
[07:12] <fabbione> dilinger: btw did you ever tested clvm ?
[07:13] <fabbione> (since you are one of the lvm2 folks ;))
[07:14] <dilinger> nope
[07:14] <dilinger> i haven't played w/ GFS stuff at all
[07:15] <fabbione> you don't need GFS to play with clvm :)
[07:16] <fabbione> i guess i am going to play with it for you soon
[07:17] <dilinger> oh.  well, no, i've only dealt w/ basic lvm
[07:17] <dilinger> clvm is cluster lvm, no?
[07:17] <dilinger> since redhat ate sistina, and joe thornber stopped working there, i haven't really kept up.  they're no fun anymore :)
[07:18] <fabbione> eheh ok
[07:18] <fabbione> yeah it's cluster lvm
[07:25] <dilinger> i never really had the opportunity to play w/ it
[07:25] <fabbione> oky doky :)
[07:25] <dilinger> sistina freed GFS around the time i quit voxel, i believe
[07:25] <dilinger> s/sistina/redhat/
[07:25] <fabbione> yeah
[07:25] <dilinger> and i don't have the hardware at home
[07:25] <dilinger> and my current job is big on openafs
[07:25] <fabbione> you need 3 pc to do that
[07:25] <fabbione> s/pc/boxes/
[07:25] <dilinger> i didn't have 3 working pcs :)
[07:26] <dilinger> i ended up buying a whole bunch of parts, i had a bunch of dead machines
[07:26] <dilinger> and sparc boxes
[07:26] <fabbione> well you can mix hardware...
[07:26] <dilinger> i wouldn't quite trust the sparcs w/ stuff like that
[07:27] <fabbione> why not?
[07:28] <dilinger> 'cause i'm happy if i can get the things to boot; clustering seems like an extravagancy
[07:28] <fabbione> well but testing doesn't mean production :)
[07:29] <fabbione> btw.. did you finally got your appartment?
[07:29] <fabbione> so that we can turn one of your sparcs into a buildd?
[07:29] <dilinger> yep
[07:29] <fabbione> cool :)
[07:29] <dilinger> i moved in last weekend
[07:29] <dilinger> still making it habitable
[07:29] <fabbione> congratulation :)
[07:29] <fabbione> yeah i can imagine
[07:29] <dilinger> thanks :)
[07:30] <dilinger> the 280's sitting on the floor, i need to get all my machines up and running still
[07:30] <fabbione> no rush
[07:30] <dilinger> i'm not sure what i'm going to do about the internet connection
[07:30] <fabbione> why?
[07:30] <dilinger> i tried contacting roadrunner, but they haven't gotten back to me
[07:30] <dilinger> in the meantime, someone in the building has an open AP that i've been using
[07:30] <fabbione> are you still without net at home?
[07:30] <fabbione> ahhh
[07:30] <fabbione> ehehhe
[07:32] <dilinger> i'll try to get it online sometime this week, though
[07:32] <fabbione> well without bw it might be an issue
[07:33] <dilinger> maybe i should see if i can host it at work
[07:33] <dilinger> although getting it there will be.. interesting
[07:33] <fabbione> and i should probably move wanna-build to a public host
[07:34] <fabbione> dilinger: for the size? :)
[07:34] <dilinger> they're also firewalled like crazy; does anything need to connect to the buildd, or does the buildd do all the connecting out
[07:34] <dilinger> ?
[07:34] <dilinger> yea, the size and weight.  i certainly couldn't move it myself
[07:34] <fabbione> buildd connects to outside
[07:34] <fabbione> nothing connect to buildd
[07:34] <dilinger> carrying from my car to my room, when i first got it, nearly killed me
[07:35] <fabbione> ehe i can imagine
[07:36] <fabbione> buildd needs ssh access to wanna-build
[07:36] <fabbione> and clearly access to a public sparc archive
[07:36] <dilinger> ok
[07:36] <fabbione> like http://ports.
[07:36] <dilinger> so it ould be fine to host it at work
[07:37] <fabbione> i guess there is no way to ssh in, is it?
[07:37] <dilinger> i'd have to set up a tunnel
[07:37] <dilinger> which wouldn't be permanent
[07:38] <fabbione> hmmmm
[07:38] <dilinger> of course, if you can find me hosting in nyc somewhere, i can put it there instead..
[07:39] <fabbione> it was more to be able to do admin tasks, like updating chroot, unfucking chroots
[07:39] <fabbione> yeah but i know shit about hosting in NYC
[07:39] <fabbione> it's like 4000 Miles from here if not more :)
[07:41] <dilinger> heh
[07:42] <fabbione> building iseries kernel is a royal pain in the butt :)
[07:42] <dilinger> hm, my laundry's probably done..
[07:43] <fabbione> i need to wake up my wife and listen to her for the next hour...
[07:44] <fabbione> given that we have been having a fight all night
[07:44] <fabbione> i would rather do your laundry :)
[07:44] <fabbione> ttyl
[01:40] <lamont> fabbione: no, I simply failed to actually do the commit. :-(
[02:43] <mjg59> fabbione: Would it be possible to set CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG to y for a while?
[02:50] <fabbione> lamont: ah ok :)
[02:50] <fabbione> mjg59: there will be 2 -dbg images with the next upload
[02:50] <fabbione> 686-dbg and 386-dbg with all the DEBUG=y
[02:50] <fabbione> i guess that includes ACPI too
[02:51] <mjg59> fabbione: Oh, rock
[02:52] <mjg59> fabbione: Did you get my mail?
[02:52] <fabbione> mjg59: for the libata suspend/resume patch is not really go.. we will drah 2.6.12 into main and as default kernel within the next 2 weeks :/
[02:52] <mjg59> fabbione: This code needs testing. It's not going to get tested unless we put it somewhere
[02:52] <mjg59> And it's vital for ACPI on new laptops
[02:52] <fabbione> mjg59: i need to be at least sure it's not going to eat people disks
[02:53] <mjg59> It /looks/ fine
[02:53] <Mithrandir> make it twiddlable by a boot parameter?
[02:53] <mjg59> The only time this code patch is followed is during suspend or resume
[02:53] <mjg59> Uh, path
[02:53] <mjg59> It won't affect any other use
[02:53] <fabbione> ah it's from Jeff
[02:54] <fabbione> i will ask him
[02:58] <fabbione> hmm he is not online
[02:58] <Mithrandir> fabbione: ok, I have an oops now.  What do you want me to do with it?
[02:58] <fabbione> Mithrandir: stick it somewhere i can look at it?
[02:59] <fabbione> or the best option would be to print it in 4 layers toilet paper for firther usage :)
[02:59] <Mithrandir> fabbione: I mildly hate you then, since it means I have to copy half a screenfull off by hand.   :P
[03:21] <fabbione> ahhaha
[03:26] <fabbione> Mithrandir: is that card usb or pci?
[03:26] <Mithrandir> pci
[03:26] <fabbione> ok
[03:28] <fabbione> * acx_ether_to_txdesc
[03:28] <fabbione> *
[03:28] <fabbione> * Uses the contents of the ether frame to build the elements of
[03:28] <fabbione> * the 802.11 frame.
[03:28] <fabbione> *
[03:28] <fabbione> * We don't actually set up the frame header here.  That's the
[03:28] <fabbione> * MAC's job.  We're only handling conversion of DIXII or 802.3+LLC
[03:28] <fabbione> * frames to something that works with 802.11.
[03:30] <fabbione> Mithrandir: given that the driver is compiled with DEBUG
[03:30] <fabbione> can you show me the logs from kern.log or syslog?
[03:30] <fabbione> they should be there somewhere
[03:30] <Mithrandir> fabbione: the box is hung when that oops happens.
[03:31] <fabbione> Mithrandir: yes, but the logs should be written before that :)
[03:31] <Mithrandir> they aren't.  Or wasn't last time.
[03:32] <fabbione> WTF!!!!1
[03:32] <fabbione> I HATE EXTERNAL DRIVERS
[03:32] <Mithrandir> or, which part of the logs?
[03:32] <fabbione> THEY SHOULD DIE OF SLOW PAINFUL DEATH
[03:32] <fabbione>                 acxlog(L_DEBUG, "tx: 802.3 len: %d\n", skb->len);
[03:32] <fabbione> there should be entries like that around
[03:33] <fabbione>                 acxlog(L_DEBUG, "tx: DIXII len: %d\n", skb->len);
[03:33] <Mithrandir> no tx: from today.
[03:34] <fabbione> do you actually get any data out of the device before the crash?
[03:34] <fabbione> data like IP connections
[03:35] <Mithrandir> sure, I can ping my router, for instance.
[03:36] <Mithrandir> ssh-ing made it die.
[03:37] <fabbione> Mithrandir: was that piece of code working in 2.6.10?
[03:37] <fabbione> (can't remember if you told me)
[03:37] <Mithrandir> fabbione: 2.6.10 works just fine on the box, yes.
[03:37] <fabbione> ok
[03:37] <Mithrandir> the driver is in the kernel and I haven't reviewed any changes.
[03:38] <fabbione> yeah the acx100 is anyway an external one
[03:40] <fabbione> UHAAAA
[03:41] <fabbione> the code has been changed hell of a lot
[03:41] <fabbione> -               e_snap = (wlan_snap_t*)((UINT8*)e_llc + sizeof(wlan_llc_t));
[03:41] <fabbione> +               e_snap = (wlan_snap_t*)((u8*)e_llc + sizeof(wlan_llc_t));
[03:41] <fabbione> stuff like this might make it amd64 unfriendly :)
[03:41] <fabbione> Mithrandir: do you have any option to test it on i386?
[03:42] <Mithrandir> I can install i386 on the box and try, sure.
[03:42] <Mithrandir> it'll take me an hour or so, though.
[03:42] <Mithrandir> but, food now
[03:43] <fabbione> sure no rush
[03:43] <fabbione> but if it works on i386.. well there is only one solution
[03:43] <fabbione> bomb upstream :)
[03:47] <zul> blah
[03:52] <fabbione> hey zul
[04:03] <fabbione> dpkg-deb: building package `linux-image-2.6.12-1-powerpc64-smp' in `../linux-image-2.6.12-1-powerpc64-smp_<IP_ADDRESS>-1.2_powerpc.deb'.
[04:05] <fabbione> dpkg-deb: building package `linux-image-2.6.12-1-iseries-smp' in `../linux-image-2.6.12-1-iseries-smp_<IP_ADDRESS>-1.2_powerpc.deb'.
[04:05] <fabbione> there we go
[04:07] <fabbione>  /usr/share/kernel-wedge/commands/copy-modules: line 13: 14622 Segmentation fault      mv $tmpdir/work.new $tmpdir/work
[04:07] <fabbione> YEAHH!!!!!!
[04:07] <fabbione> GO KERNEL-WEDGE IT'S YOUR BDAY!
[04:08] <fabbione> i am afraid kernel wedge needs some ppc64 love too
[04:09] <Micksa> man
[04:09] <Micksa> I wanna hack kernels all day
[04:09] <Micksa> I can do that
[04:10] <Micksa> you don't believe me huh :)
[04:21] <fabbione> Micksa: there are tons of bugs that need love :)
[04:21] <fabbione> welcome to provide patches to fix them
[04:21] <Micksa> there are always bugs
[04:22] <Micksa> it's mostly a time issue
[04:22] <Micksa> well, uh, also
[04:22] <Micksa> do you work for canonical?
[04:28] <fabbione> yes
[04:35] <zul> fabbione: i wont be around much tomorrow since i have an interview
[04:36] <Micksa> crap
[04:37] <Micksa> lemme try that again
[04:37] <Micksa> fabbione: do you work for canonical?
[04:38] <fabbione> Micksa: yes
[04:38] <fabbione> zul: no problem.. i am fighting with ppc64
[04:38] <zul> that must be fun
[04:38] <Micksa> see, you're getting paid to do this stuff :)
[04:38] <Micksa> I could SO do that
[04:38] <Micksa> but man I'm crap at making good use of spare time
[04:39] <Micksa> I mean, shit, I spent all day yesterday trying to get my laptop working 8)
[04:39] <zul> oh and linux-non-supported-modules is coming along nicely
[04:39] <fabbione> zul: it was fun until i hitted the random PPC segfaults
[04:39] <zul> he
[04:39] <zul> hehe
[04:39] <fabbione> zul: ah nice
[04:39] <fabbione> i guess i am going to try to hack on 64 images only
[04:39] <fabbione> building 8 images takes too long
[04:40] <zul> it does...usually yes :)
[04:40] <fabbione> Micksa: well up to you to get known.. a good point to start is MOTU :)
[04:40] <zul> *sigh* i have to wear a tie tomorrow
[04:40] <fabbione> amen
[04:40] <fabbione> i hate ties
[04:40] <Micksa> MOTU?
[04:41] <fabbione> Micksa: #ubuntu-motu
[04:41] <fabbione> Master Of The Universe
[04:41] <fabbione> it's a good point to start
[04:42] <Micksa> mmmkay
[04:44] <zul> do we have a list of which external-drivers run on which arch
[04:44] <zul> yet
[04:48] <fabbione> zul: no, you will need to grab the images from archive and ports
[04:48] <fabbione> and check them there
[04:48] <zul> thats what i thought
[04:53] <fabbione> i have the feeling that ppc buildd will never make a kernel build
[04:54] <fabbione> ppc has this nice issue of doing random segfaults
[04:54] <fabbione> it did it 4 times in one build
[04:54] <zul> meh...drop ppc :)
[04:54] <fabbione> hehehe
[04:55] <fabbione> with Apple switching to intel, it might be an option :)
[04:56] <Mithrandir> fabbione: I'll believe that when I see it.
[04:56] <fabbione> Mithrandir: well it was on /. yesterday
[04:56] <Mithrandir> fabbione: "IT WAS ON SLASHDOT. OH GOD IT MUST BE TEH TRUE!"
[04:57] <Mithrandir> :-)
[04:57] <fabbione> ahhaha
[04:57] <fabbione> AH SHIT..ok i am too tired
[04:57] <fabbione> time to stop for today
[04:57] <fabbione> the OCFS2 update is FTBFS
[04:57] <fabbione> and of course i can't build ppc64 anymore
[04:57] <zul> what slashdot always reports the truth?
[04:57] <fabbione> that makes all my d-i changes pointless
[04:58] <fabbione> fs/configfs/inode.c:51: error: unknown field `memory_backed' specified in initializer
[04:58] <fabbione> BAH
[05:11] <fabbione> bah fixed
[05:23] <Mithrandir> fabbione: well, if I switch to i386, it doesn't associate at all, even. :P
[05:24] <fabbione> Mithrandir: fun :) bug upstream :)
[05:24] <fabbione> or check if there is a newer version
[05:24] <Mithrandir> fabbione: it's the stock kernel driver.
[05:25] <Mithrandir> 2.6.12 doesn't have lrm
[05:25] <Mithrandir> :P
[05:26] <zul> um...is the hotplug stuff the same from the old version and the new version of acx100
[05:27] <Mithrandir> s/an/and/
[05:28] <zul> bah...the acx100 driver we are using is from a different source has the *.bin files in the hotplug directory the same as the 2.6.10 version?
[05:29] <zul> http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/bob_mckenzie.asp
[05:29] <zul> oops....wrong one
[05:29] <zul> http://rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de/~andi/acx100
[05:30] <Mithrandir> I had to symlink in the firmware from 2.6.10 since the kernel didn't find it otherwise.
[05:30] <zul> wierd
[05:31] <fabbione> hmmmmmmmmmmm
[05:31] <fabbione> HMMMMMMM
[05:31] <fabbione> i think the acx100 firmwares are in l-r-m
[05:31] <fabbione> they probably need to be updated
[05:31] <zul> yes they are
[05:31] <fabbione> the acx100 hotplug code from 2.6.10 to 2.6.12 is different
[05:32] <zul> bbl need to eat
[05:33] <fabbione> bah ocfs2 update is fucked
[05:33] <Mithrandir> hm, ok.
[05:35] <Mithrandir> except there's no newer firmware upstream?
[05:39] <Mithrandir> hm, I'll see if compiling the newest and shiniest external driver works.
[05:41] <fabbione> is there a new version?
[05:42] <fabbione> acx100             | 0.2.0pre8+fixes52          | ok     | 18/04/2005   | http://acx100.sourceforge.net/ http://rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de/~andi/acx100/
[05:42] <fabbione> this is the one in the kernel right now
[05:42] <fabbione> anyway i need to go and cook dinner
[05:42] <fabbione> ppc64 is pissing me off too much
[05:43] <Mithrandir> yes, there's a newer upstream
[05:44] <Mithrandir> fixes56
[05:44] <fabbione> Mithrandir: ok.. test that one and let us know :)
[05:44] <fabbione> we will update the driver anyway, but if it fixes the problem i will find the time to include it in the next release
[05:44] <fabbione> i am off :)
[09:29] <lamont> * committed kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/kernel-debian--pre1,2--<IP_ADDRESS>--patch-25
[09:29] <lamont> that was either last night or first thing this morning...
[09:29] <lamont> almost 8 hours ago


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[11:34] <ogra_> bug #838001, bug #838005, bug #838008
[11:35] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 838001 in jasper-initramfs "Ti software channel desktop icon missing on oneiric preinstalled images" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/838001
[11:35] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 838005 in live-build "with the switch to live build preinstalled desktop images do not ship the ubiquity slideshow anymore" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/838005
[11:35] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 838008 in firefox "firefox fails to start on armel" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/838008
[12:29] <dcordes> hi
[12:30] <dcordes> rsalveti: I installed all updates in my natty arm image and tried webm in fennec and firefox just to check for persistance of the bug and both crashed
[12:30] <dcordes> fwiw
[12:30] <rsalveti> dcordes: cool, thanks for that
[12:31] <rsalveti> dcordes: do you have the package version you used?
[12:31] <dcordes> you're most welcome
[12:31] <dcordes> let me boot
[12:35] <dcordes> firefox                               6.0+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[12:35] <dcordes> fennec                                4.0~b3-0ubuntu2
[12:36] <ogra_> 6.0 ?
[12:36] <ogra_> you are quite behind
[12:36] <ogra_> 7.0~b2+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 is the current one
[12:36] <ogra_> :)
[12:36] <dcordes> rsalveti: I hope this helps. I will update the bug as well
[12:41] <rsalveti> dcordes: great, thanks
[12:49] <dcordes> rsalveti: ok version comment added and I also made the bug affect fennec
[12:49] <dcordes> it said something about no upstream admin etc.
[19:44] <axle> I have problems getting a WPA secured wireless connection on ubuntu ARM headless
[19:44] <axle> here's what I used: "sudo wpa_passphrase NetSSID ASCIIKEY | sudo wpa_supplicant -D wext -i wlan0"
[19:44] <axle> maybe I have to not use wext but something else?
[19:58] <openwatts> So I am trying to figure out how to crossbuild a driver for my beagleboard XM in Ubuntu 11.04 (I am running 10.10) and i'm not quite sure how to do it.  Can someone point me in the right direction.  I have a beagle toys WLAN adapter (wl1271) and need to get the driver up and running on it but I am also looking to tinker with it.
[20:18] <GrueMaster> openwatts: You can use pbuilder to setup a build environment fairly easily.
[20:32] <openwatts> GrueMaster:  I am able to get up the crosstools just fine.  My issue is really more of what I need to do once I build the modules that I want, and making sure that I have kernel source that will match my board
[20:33] <openwatts> When I try to build the kernel and modules, things don't work anymore.  I want to make it so that other people can work on the driver, I just need to lay the ground work for them
[20:34] <GrueMaster> Oh.  Not sure on that.  I thought you were trying to build a driver for 11.04 in 10.10 on the same system.
[20:34] <GrueMaster> rsalveti might know.  Or try asking on #linaro if no one else speaks up here.
[20:34] <openwatts> I'm trying to build the WL12xx driver so that I can install it as a module on my beaglebard XM
[20:35] <openwatts> I'll give that a shot in a little


[00:16] <quantibiliy> alright another issue now, when  Hdmi is connected and i start up, main laptop screen remains blank while the second shows... i don't understand this issue
[06:08] <lucas_ai> I made a simple service and put it in /etc/init/potentialstudio.conf ... why am I getting this error: Failed to start potentialstudio.service: Unit potentialstudio.service not found.
[07:01] <xubuntu71w> hi, just installed xubuntu 16.04.1, use dsl connect to internet and works well, but when I set up pptp vpn and has vpn connection established,  get two problems: 1. (here i am currently in an internet censored country) cencored website such as google, twitter still could not connect, uncensored website could connect.   2.  browser speed slow down appearently.(not vpn service reason, as i tried same one in other os, it works wel
[07:01] <xubuntu71w> thanks in advance.
[07:38] <lucas_ai_> I changed to XFCE and my windows don't have any frame. How do I get them back? Or how do I go back to unity?
[08:42] <choki> hello
[08:42] <choki> anyone already fixed this problem? https://askubuntu.com/questions/786146/text-partially-disappearing-in-many-applications-after-unlocking-on-xubuntu
[08:42] <choki> should i update lightdm?
[11:10] <extinct_potato> could someone help me with menu files?
[11:10] <cfhowlett> !ask
[11:10] <extinct_potato> i created a deb package which added a menu entry, removed the package but meny entry is still there.
[11:11] <extinct_potato> i've already tried to remove it with alacarte or menulibre, but the menu entry doesn't appear to be there.
[11:11] <extinct_potato> yes, i have read freedesktop documentation.
[11:12] <extinct_potato> still have no fucking idea what to do.
[11:15] <knome> extinct_potato, please note that this is a family-friendly channel.
[11:16] <extinct_potato> knome, i'm sorry, didn't knwo.
[11:16] <knome> the main reason why menu entries do not appear in menulibre is that they are invalid
[11:16] <extinct_potato> *know.
[11:16] <extinct_potato> knome, how can I remove them then?
[11:16] <knome> remove them from the file system directly
[11:16] <knome> (and as you said you created a package that installs a menu file, but it didn't get removed when the package was uninstalled, you did something wrong with that too)
[11:17] <knome> and re: family-friendliness, the channel guidelines are posted to all joining users...
[11:18] <extinct_potato> Yeah, you're right knome, it's my fault.
[11:18] <extinct_potato> I removed the file.
[11:18] <extinct_potato> It was in ~/.local/share/applications/
[11:19] <extinct_potato> but could you please tell me why there is such fragmentation when it comes to menu entries?
[11:19] <extinct_potato> there are dozen of directories destined for menu entries.
[11:19] <extinct_potato> both in system dir and in user dir.
[11:20] <knome> there are basically one directory in both.
[11:21] <extinct_potato> you're right with this one.
[11:22] <extinct_potato> so which file does menulibre/alacarte edit in the end?
[11:22] <knome> menulibre edits the menu entries in the user directory
[11:22] <knome> well,
[11:22] <knome> let's start with this:
[11:23] <knome> first, menulibre looks for the system files
[11:23] <knome> and then the user files
[11:23] <knome> they can either add to or overwrite system files
[11:23] <knome> so if a desktop entry for "app-x" doesn't exist in the user files, then the system files are used
[11:24] <knome> when you "edit" the launcher for "app-x" and it only exists as a system file, menulibre essentially creates a new user file that overwrites the system one.
[11:24] <knome> so in essence menulibre only touches the user files, but that can mean the system files are overridden
[11:25] <extinct_potato> so is there any applications that lets me to edit system freedesktop files?
[11:25] <knome> no.
[11:25] <knome> well, at least as far as i know, and there's never a reason to do so.
[11:26] <extinct_potato> okay, thanks for help knome!
[11:26] <knome> np
[11:26] <knome> so why would you want to edit the system files then?
[11:27] <extinct_potato> because some apps have for eg. ugly icon, which I would like to edit system-wide
[11:27] <extinct_potato> for all users.
[11:29] <knome> ummh, unless the icons are hardcoded, that's related to the icon theme, not the desktop files
[11:30] <knome> all desktop files *should* point to icon names only (not with paths)
[11:30] <knome> the system then checks whether an icon of that name exists in the theme you are using, and then it's dependencies one-by-one until it finds one
[11:31] <knome> the application can also install its fallback icon (without having to refer it to with the filename)
[11:32] <knome> but if the packaging/desktop file is done right, icon themes can always override
[11:36] <knome> i guess if you insist on using specific icons, you could create a skel directory that "installs" the desktop files for new users when they are created
[11:36] <knome> though ultimately, they can simply remove these files
[11:37] <knome> as they can change the icon theme, even if you created one that overrode some of the icons
[11:37] <knome> (and that would have the limitation that the users could only use one base theme, unless you created those overriding themes for all icon themes available)
[11:38] <knome> so - i would say - not worth the hassle, if other users think the icons are ugly enough for them, they can create the overriding launchers themself.
[11:45] <extinct_potato> fair enough
[14:43] <Karamel`> Hello
[14:46] <mrkramps> hi
[14:47] <Karamel`> I have xubuntu 15.10 on my laptop and I wish to upgrade to 16.04.1. When I first installed it I made 4 partitions 1-swap 2-/ 3-/home and 4-/mediadrive (for all my media files). Is there a way to install 16.04.1 on my system without loosing all my data/settings/preferences for the other programs that I already installed?
[14:48] <Karamel`> I'm asking about install instead of upgrade because as I understand, it's better to install it from scratch, than to update all libraries by an upgrade.
[14:49] <mrkramps> fresh install requires manual partitioning then
[14:49] <Karamel`> by manual partition you mean the partitions I already made?
[14:50] <mrkramps> yes, you can assign the mountpoint for partition with the installer
[14:51] <Karamel`> and then assign the old mountpoints to be the correlating mountpoints for the new system, right?
[14:51] <mrkramps> exactly
[14:52] <mrkramps> the installer will only recognize the paritions and you have to tell him e.g. to use parition 2 for /home again
[14:52] <mrkramps> make sure partitions will not be formated excpet for /
[14:52] <mrkramps> and that's it
[14:52] <mrkramps> i recommend creating a backup anyways
[14:55] <Karamel`> before I ask about a backup - Can you explain one thing? Because I also thought to use the method that you just stated, but than re-thought about it and said to myself: When I first installed 15.10, the system put files on /home. So probably it will put these files now, again - only new files that will overwrite my old files. How come this method is suppose to work and not re-write on my old preferences' files?
[14:57] <mrkramps> Karamel`, after installation a home folder will be created and populated with default settings at first system start or application start
[14:57] <mrkramps> but only if NO folder exists
[14:57] <mrkramps> make sure to use the same user name
[14:57] <mrkramps> should be no issue than, home is not touched
[14:57] <mrkramps> did it myself multiple time :)
[14:59] <mrkramps> ok, there might be some preferences updated on first start when something's changed
[14:59] <mrkramps> like Xfce 4.10 → 4.12
[15:00] <Karamel`> yeah, because those preferences are probably on / and not /home, right?
[15:01] <Karamel`> But I don't care if I will just have to redefine my wallpaper
[15:03] <mrkramps> user space configuration is all in /home
[15:03] <mrkramps> system wide configuration generally in /etc
[15:03] <Karamel`> oh, ok
[15:03] <Karamel`> Now, is there a simple way to backup? And by backup, you mean also my mediadrive partition which is ntfs?
[15:04] <mrkramps> copy everythin to an external drive
[15:05] <mrkramps> and this is not just a recommendation for system upgrade, but a general recommendation
[15:05] <mrkramps> without backup your data is not save
[15:06] <Karamel`> Is there a good backup program for xubuntu/ubuntu?
[15:08] <mrkramps> phew, personally i just copy ir use rsync
[15:08] <mrkramps> *or
[15:18] <Karamel`> mrkramps, and then after I upgraded, do I need to update wine for example? or other programs that aren't installed by default? Will xubuntu "know" that I need to update wine to a version that corresponds to xubuntu 16.04 and not to 15.10 which was previously installed?
[15:19] <mrkramps> wine is part of the official repository, but i do not know how playonlinux will deal with a system upgrade
[15:20] <mrkramps> all manually installed, self compiled and ppa applications need to be reinstalled
[15:57] <Karamel`> thanks mrkramps!
[16:26] <xubuntu56w> Hey! I'm having a trouble downloading vlc, apt tries to download libproxy deb file from "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libp/libproxy/libproxy-tools_0.4.11-5ubuntu1_i386.deb" and it fails
[16:27] <xubuntu56w> I'm using xubuntu xenial on an i368 cute laptop
[16:33] <mrkramps> xubuntu56w, exact error message?
[16:35] <xubuntu56w> Here you go, "Err:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/universe i386 libproxy-tools i386 0.4.11-5ubuntu1   400  Bad URI [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80] E: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libp/libproxy/libproxy-tools_0.4.11-5ubuntu1_i386.deb  400  Bad URI [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]"
[16:39] <mrkramps> xubuntu56w, could you show me the ouput of the command 'locale' in a pastebin, pls
[16:41] <xubuntu56w> http://pastebin.com/JJj4JUxW
[16:43] <mrkramps> ok,red herring
[16:43] <mrkramps> xubuntu56w, have you already tried updating your repository information? sudo apt-get update
[16:44] <xubuntu56w> I have updated it many times, I have also used --fix-missing but with no success
[16:45] <xubuntu56w> I will update it again because why not
[16:45] <mrkramps> weird :\
[16:46] <xubuntu56w> I know :\         I will just use a different audio player
[16:46] <xubuntu56w> Thanks for trying
[16:47] <mrkramps> xubuntu56w, this is blind fire, but try updating your local with:$ sudo locale-gen
[16:48] <xubuntu56w> okay, I'm doing it
[16:49] <Unit193> xubuntu56w: Are you using any proxy?
[16:49] <xubuntu56w> I'm not
[16:50] <Unit193> What happens if you wget that link anyway?
[16:51] <xubuntu56w> that's what I got, "HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 400 Bad URI"
[16:52] <mrkramps> the link is working for me
[16:52] <Unit193> Very strange, that's why I asked if you had a proxy though.
[16:53] <xubuntu56w> I guess it's because of my ip, I will try to use a proxy
[16:53] <xubuntu56w> but I might try to use one to fix this problem because my country's ip adresses sometimes get blocked
[16:55] <Unit193> What happens if you use a local mirror?
[16:55] <xubuntu56w> I haven't tried that
[17:06] <xubuntu56w> I switched to a mirror, updated, tried installing, no hope
[17:07] <xubuntu56w> I have also done "sudo locale-gen" as mrkramps told me
[17:09] <xubuntu56w> I found the solution! all what I had to do is hide my Syrian proxy
[22:03] <m3rcury> sa
[22:10] <mrkramps> wu
[22:10] <bekks> uh
[23:34] <Wayward_Vagabond> After my laptop has gone to sleep, it has glitches till X is restarted, panel doesn't render but can be interacted with via some careful trial and error, and terminal windows don't render either
[23:34] <Wayward_Vagabond> Either empty black, or clear if another window has been drawn
[23:35] <Wayward_Vagabond> I'm on xubuntu 14.04lts
[23:37] <mrkramps> Wayward_Vagabond, lspci -nnk | grep "VGA\|'Kern'\|3D\|Display" -A2 | pastebinit
[23:39] <Wayward_Vagabond> Er, how long of an output would that have? I don't think a shell supports copy-paste :s
[23:39] <mrkramps> just a link
[23:39] <Wayward_Vagabond> Ohh, nice, one second
[23:40] <mrkramps> the numbers would be enough


[08:56] <ubotu> New bug: #131751 in xorg-server (main) "Unable to switch Virtual Terminal with C-A-F[1-6]  on Intel-based new laptop" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/131751
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #131775 in xserver-xorg-video-unichrome (universe) "please update to the latest git" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/131775
[02:26] <ubotu> New bug: #123222 in xorg (main) "[GUTSY]  GUI fails when running in virtualbox" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/123222
[03:19] <ubotu> New bug: #131799 in xorg (main) "Dell Inspiron E1505 Can't Install/Load Live CD on Gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/131799
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #131820 in xkeyboard-config (main) "X.org is missing a keymap definition" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/131820
[07:24] <jcristau> bryce: http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Xorg/versions_current.html doesn't have any debian versions today?
[08:12] <bryce> oh, I have to manually switch my /etc/apt/sources.list to turn off the debian repository when pulling ubuntu sources, and I often forget to turn it back on.  one sec
[08:16] <bryce> tis up
[08:16] <jcristau> thanks
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #131833 in compiz (main) "[Gutsy tribe 4]  video playback blanks / corrupts when displaying other items (dup-of: 122979)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/131833
[09:00] <ubotu> New bug: #85455 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "D-Link DWA-547 wireless card doesn't work" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85455
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #36221 in libxt (main) "/etc/X11 is not being included in default search path" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/36221


[18:08] <Guest48921> ok
[18:08] <Guest48921> hi there
[18:09] <SergioMeneses> Guest48921, \o
[18:09] <SergioMeneses> hi
[18:12] <Guest48921> I am new to the QA
[18:12] <Guest48921> i want to help test ubuntu!
[18:17] <Guest48921> Sergio ?
[18:19] <SergioMeneses> Guest48921, great!
[18:19] <SergioMeneses> do you want to help us in the cadence week :D
[18:23] <Guest48921> yes
[18:23] <Guest48921> can you please explain what's it about?
[18:24] <knome> balloons, *boo*!
[18:24] <knome> balloons, ping me when you get back tomorrow.
[18:25] <Guest48921> I joined the mailing list and also Launchpad
[18:28] <SergioMeneses> Guest48921, great! and you see our mailing list?
[18:30] <SergioMeneses> Guest48921, you can find all information here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Cadence/Saucy/Week5
[18:30] <SergioMeneses>  \o/
[18:31] <SergioMeneses> knome, greeting! are you busy?
[18:31] <knome> SergioMeneses, not really. anything i can help with?
[18:31] <SergioMeneses> knome, I've proposed a new testcase for Xfburn, give it a look when you have time enough
[18:32] <knome> SergioMeneses, is it a merge proposal?
[18:32] <SergioMeneses> knome, yes, it is
[18:32] <knome> okay, i'll have a look today :)
[18:32] <SergioMeneses> do you need the link?
[18:33]  * SergioMeneses hugs knome
[18:33] <knome> i can dig it up
[18:33] <SergioMeneses> ok
[18:53] <Guest48921> question
[18:53] <Guest48921> how do I submit if a test and passed it.
[18:54] <Guest48921> I clicked the link to submit but it returns to the main page.
[18:54] <Guest48921> Testcases for Ubuntu Desktop amd64 in Saucy Daily
[18:55] <SergioMeneses> ok Guest48921 I think you're logged right?
[18:55] <Guest48921> yes, so there is this If all actions produce the expected results listed, please submit a 'passed' result.
[18:55] <Guest48921> I clicked passed and nothing happen
[18:56] <SergioMeneses> nothing?... it should appear a report of the test
[18:56] <SergioMeneses> Guest48921, but the web-site dont show you any message?
[18:57] <Guest48921> not at all
[18:57] <Guest48921> it returns me to this page
[18:57] <Guest48921> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1497/results#add_result
[18:58] <SergioMeneses> Guest48921, do you have a screenshot?
[18:59] <Guest48921> yes
[18:59] <SergioMeneses> Guest48921, you should have a result like this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cadence/Walkthrough
[19:03] <Guest48921> i wonder where i will get the page to submit the result like the one at the bottom of this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Walkthrough
[19:06] <SergioMeneses> Guest48921, when you select a testcase the bottom is at the end of the page
[19:07] <Guest48921> i found it not in that one
[19:07] <Guest48921> but when looking at the test cases for ubuntu server
[19:07] <Guest48921> I think I am ready!
[19:07] <Guest48921> so I will help you guys test!
[19:09] <SergioMeneses> Guest48921, jejeje
[19:09] <SergioMeneses> ok
[19:09] <SergioMeneses> enjoy it :D
[19:12] <Guest48921> gracias Sergio por tu ayuda.
[19:13] <SergioMeneses> Guest48921, no hay lio!
[19:15] <knome> SergioMeneses, is there something specific on the xfburn testcase you are unsure?
[19:17] <knome> SergioMeneses, line 9, "Xfbunt", seriously? :))
[19:18] <knome> SergioMeneses, by the way, you don't need to do the test-case names any more, we're working on something to do that automatically
[19:18] <knome> SergioMeneses, more formatting ideas: either end every line (dd) without a dot (preferred) or with a dot
[19:19] <knome> SergioMeneses, start every dd with a capital letter (preferred) or not
[19:20] <knome> SergioMeneses, i'd probably also modify the testcase so that test #1 was opening xfburn and the rest simply expect xfburn to be started
[19:20] <knome> SergioMeneses, (and working - if it isn't, the tester will have reported a bug about that)
[19:22] <SergioMeneses> knome, hi! thanks for your help, I didnt know the new format about the name and dots
[19:22] <SergioMeneses> I can edit it
[19:22] <SergioMeneses> or you want to?
[19:22] <knome> SergioMeneses, i you could that, would be fantastic
[19:23] <knome> SergioMeneses, and it's not "official" yet that we're going to drop the names, and the dots thing is just a suggestion - generally, as long as things are logical and coherent, i'm fine with that
[19:24] <SergioMeneses> so I think the big problem would be the "Xfbunt"
[19:24] <SergioMeneses> :S
[19:26] <SergioMeneses> I'm editing it... if you have more suggestions
[19:27] <knome> i think that's it
[19:27] <SergioMeneses> ok done! I'm uploading!
[19:28] <knome> haven't done through the technical side, but it looks fine
[19:34] <SergioMeneses> knome, ok the new email aboout the new merge is there
[19:35] <SergioMeneses> lol I could change the code in the previous merge /o\
[19:36] <knome> heh
[19:37] <SergioMeneses> knome, ok but you can see the new code right?
[19:37] <knome> let me see
[19:38] <knome> SergioMeneses, did you see this:
[19:38] <knome> 22:20  knome: SergioMeneses, i'd probably also modify the testcase so that test  #1 was opening xfburn and the rest simply expect xfburn to be started
[19:38] <knome> 22:20  knome: SergioMeneses, (and working - if it isn't, the tester will have  reported a bug about that)
[19:38] <knome> and heh, just noticed
[19:38] <knome> the last step says "Can you open Brasero correctly?"
[19:38] <knome> oops!
[19:39] <SergioMeneses> knome, lol
[19:40] <SergioMeneses> jajajaja
[19:41] <SergioMeneses> ok knome
[19:45] <SergioMeneses> knome, around?
[19:45] <knome> yup, still here :)
[19:45] <SergioMeneses> knome, take a look https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiomeneses/ubuntu-manual-tests/xfburn-test-final
[19:46] <SergioMeneses> I think it looks better
[19:46] <knome> SergioMeneses, i was thinking that opening xfburn could be a test of its own, but i can do that modification
[19:46] <knome> and yup, looks good now
[19:46] <knome> and a bit shorter also
[19:46] <knome> which is always nice
[19:47] <SergioMeneses> knome, yeah! I was repeating a lot of things
[19:47] <knome> i'll merge it in a moment after i've dealt with another merge :)
[19:48] <SergioMeneses> knome, perfect
[19:49] <SergioMeneses> omg there are a lot of testcase in the bug section
[19:53] <SergioMeneses> Noskcaj, \o
[19:53] <Noskcaj> morning SergioMeneses
[19:53] <SergioMeneses> Noskcaj, your last pc-case is awesome!
[19:54] <Noskcaj> Thanks.
[19:54] <Noskcaj> The guy who i bought the purple acrylic off forgot to send the second one though.
[19:54] <SergioMeneses> :O
[20:00] <knome> SergioMeneses, merged and added in the tracker. thanks!
[20:00] <SergioMeneses> knome, it's ok! I hope to make more contributions as soon as possible
[20:01] <knome> forestpiskie, your greeter testcase is on the tracker now as "LightDM GTK+ Greeter" (which is the correct name for it), modified to be flavor-agnostic (as it should be, since it's also used in lubuntu)
[20:01] <knome> SergioMeneses, sure :)
[21:30] <phillw> knome: forestpiskie cool :D
[21:32] <phillw> added :)
[21:39] <phillw> SergioMeneses: xfburn is also added to lubuntu, thanks.
[21:40] <SergioMeneses> phillw, :)


[01:17] <RyanPrior> Is Intrepid bootable yet?
[01:21] <RussellGee> Ryan: Its not in too bad a state
[01:21] <RussellGee> You should be able to get it to boot ok
[02:14] <DanaG> Hmm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz-fusion-bcop/+bug/174931
[02:16] <DanaG> wtf?    Well, back to git one I go.
[02:20] <DanaG> s/one //
[03:14] <tnnc> does anyone know if the alpha 1 is out yet
[03:15] <RAOF> I don't believe so.  There's still work being done to make it installable.
[03:16] <tnnc> ok thanks
[03:16] <gluer> waiting waiting
[03:16] <gluer> is the gui any different?
[03:21] <RAOF> No, not really.
[07:26] <travken> where can i test intrepid ibex? today is 13 june, but in release schedule said that it will be released in 12 june
[10:05] <djouallah> hi did the first alpha feature wubi ?
[11:40] <Laney> travken: The alpha didn't happen
[11:41] <Laney> Someone should put this in the topic
[11:42] <travken> hujova
[13:06] <wd4lko> any word on alpha1 yet ?
[13:07] <Pici> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-June/000431.html
[13:08] <wd4lko> Pici. Thanks
[13:09] <wd4lko> i have 1 still working good and 2 broke !
[14:38] <WelshDragon> Is there any link avaiable yet which lists what's new?
[14:45] <Laney> WelshDragon: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/intrepid-changes/ ;)
[14:45] <WelshDragon> ah, Thank you :0
[14:45] <WelshDragon> Don't suppose anyone knows if the 25 kernel with be included in the first alpha either do they?
[14:45] <Laney> But no user friendly release-notes style list
[18:03] <jonnymind> Hello; How can I upgrade from hardy to devel intrepid?
[18:08] <DoYouKnow> hi. Intrepid Ibex Alpha 1: Where is the download site?
[18:10] <Pici> DoYouKnow: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-June/000431.html
[18:13] <DoYouKnow> ah, I am curious about the desktop redesign especially, but I guess that probably won't be implemented at this early stage
[18:32] <BUGabundo> trying to do an update-managre -d
[18:32] <BUGabundo> getting:
[18:32] <BUGabundo> "Can't install 'ubuntu-desktop'
[18:32] <BUGabundo> It was impossible to install a required package. Please report this as a bug. "
[18:33] <mvo> BUGabundo: from dapper? or from gutsy?
[18:34] <BUGabundo> hardy -> intrepid
[18:34] <mvo> BUGabundo: oh, that is quite likely, there is a lot of flux in the system currently
[18:34] <mvo> it just means that updat-emanager is unable to calculate a upgrade that would preserve ubuntu-desktop
[18:34] <BUGabundo> humm can it be due to having a line for interpid reps on apt sources?
[18:35] <mvo> let me check
[18:35] <BUGabundo> so to upgrade should I do a apt-get dist-upgrade ??
[18:36] <mvo> yes, I would recommend a vm at this stage though
[18:37] <mvo> apt-get idst-upgrade will work, but will remove some stuff
[18:37] <BUGabundo> update-manage -d with out intrepid line doesn't upgrade
[18:37] <BUGabundo> I've been upgradging a few packages by hand
[18:37] <BUGabundo> since I have some packages from KDE3
[18:38] <BUGabundo> and synaptics wants to upgrade to KDE4...
[18:38] <BUGabundo> I can't be without my email client, KMail
[18:38] <BUGabundo> lol
[18:38] <BUGabundo> already done a disk mirror last night just to be safe
[18:38] <BUGabundo> I was expecting alpha1 yesterday
[18:38] <BUGabundo> but only at night I read the anounce email
[18:38] <Pici> Well, its not available.
[18:39] <Pici> And breakage is to be expected in an alpha.
[18:39] <jonnymind> mvo: apt-get didst-upgrade seems not to work.
[18:39] <jonnymind> (alone)
[18:39] <BUGabundo> mvo seem to have gone way
[18:39] <BUGabundo> lol
[18:40] <jonnymind> Ops
[18:40] <jonnymind> hehe, watched late.
[18:40] <BUGabundo> (2008-06-13 18:39:10) mvo left the room (quit: "Ex-Chat").
[18:40] <jonnymind> should I also set some different sources in the /etc files?
[18:40] <BUGabundo> dist-upgrade should work, if there are lines to intrepid
[18:40] <BUGabundo> let me tests with a simulate option on apt-get
[18:41] <jonnymind> BUGabundo: that's the point; where I get the lines to intrepid?
[18:42] <BUGabundo> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[18:42] <BUGabundo> apt-transport-debtorrent apturl digikam flowscan frozen-bubble gnome-app-install gtkhtml3.14 kdebase-bin kdebase-bin-kde3 kdebase-kio-plugins kdesktop kdevelop kmail kmailcvt konq-kim konq-plugins konqueror libchromexvmc1 libchromexvmcpro1  libffi4 libft-perl libk3b2 libk3b2-extracodecs libperl5.8 librrds-perl libversion-perl python-launchpad-integration  r-cran-rcompgen ubufox ubuntu-desktop
[18:42] <BUGabundo> they are the same as for hardy
[18:42] <BUGabundo> just set repositoires to main
[18:42] <BUGabundo> and replace with intrepid
[18:42] <BUGabundo> but be aware
[18:42] <BUGabundo> most certanly your system WILL break
[18:44] <BUGabundo> jonnymind: $ head /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:44] <BUGabundo> deb ftp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted universe multiverse
[18:44] <shanepardue> What's the word on the Alpha?
[18:44] <BUGabundo> do a: $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -s
[18:44] <jonnymind> Thanks.
[18:44] <jonnymind> also this:
[18:44] <BUGabundo> just to be safe, BEFORE
[18:45] <jonnymind> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy#How_to_upgrade_from_Hardy_Heron_to_Intrepid_Ibex_.28for_developers_and_bug_reports_only.29
[18:46] <BUGabundo> anyone knows that bug, on intrepid that removes the minimize/close/maxize from nautilus/metacity ?
[18:48] <jonnymind> thanks all! bye :-)
[18:48] <jonnymind> I am on my way
[18:48] <shanepardue> Intrepid Alpha? Couple days maybe?
[18:49] <BUGabundo> devs are to busy with hardy point release
[18:50] <BUGabundo> and there is a bug on the sheadule sites
[18:50] <shanepardue> Ahh, so is there a new date for the alpha release?
[18:50] <BUGabundo> on the hardy one, it says a date, and on intrepid there is a mention of hardys .1 on another date
[18:50] <BUGabundo> no new date at this point
[18:50] <BUGabundo> at least, not one that I know
[18:51] <BUGabundo> and not one the wiki
[18:51] <shanepardue> Thanks! I was wondering if I'd see it..and from what I've heard dist-upgrading to it right now will break?
[18:51] <BUGabundo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule
[18:51] <BUGabundo> nooooo
[18:51] <BUGabundo> hardy IS SAFE
[18:52] <shanepardue> hardy to intrepid is?
[18:52] <BUGabundo> only intrepid is a two face coin game
[18:52] <BUGabundo> most certanly
[18:52] <BUGabundo> if you need your system, be ware..
[18:52] <BUGabundo> a dist upgrade is not for you
[18:52] <BUGabundo> dought it should be safe to try on a vmware or virtualbox machine
[18:52] <shanepardue> well, this would be a separate partition, but you think I'll end up bricking the partition?
[18:53] <BUGabundo> can't say
[18:53] <BUGabundo> didn't try that
[18:53] <BUGabundo> there was a time where bug on grub left testers with now bootbal system
[18:53] <shanepardue> I'll stick with the VB setup then :)
[18:54] <shanepardue> Thanks for your help!
[18:54] <BUGabundo> who is responsible for ubuntuguide.org?
[18:54] <BUGabundo> that page is full of errors
[18:56] <DanaG> I recently had foomatic-filters break printing on my system.  Luckily, I had the old deb in my apt cache.
[18:58] <BUGabundo> really DanaG?
[18:58] <BUGabundo> I've just seletecd that package for upgrade
[18:58] <BUGabundo> humm
[18:58] <BUGabundo> should I remove it?
[18:58] <DanaG> Just make sure you can find the old .deb somewhere.
[18:58] <BUGabundo> hardy CD?
[18:58] <BUGabundo> lol
[18:58] <DanaG> If the new one breaks it, you can manually 'sudo dpkg -i the_old_deb.deb"
[18:59] <DanaG> CD won't have it, but the mirrors should.
[18:59] <BUGabundo> naa
[18:59] <BUGabundo> I just cancled the donwload
[18:59] <BUGabundo> will try it another day
[18:59] <BUGabundo> let me look at another package to see if it is broken
[19:00] <DanaG> I was getting "foomatic-rip" failing.
[19:00] <BUGabundo> strange
[19:00] <BUGabundo> synaptic will not let me unmark it
[19:00] <DoYouKnow> BUGabundo: what architecture did you do a dist-upgrade on?
[19:00] <BUGabundo> 64 bits
[19:00] <DoYouKnow> ok
[19:00] <BUGabundo> didn't do a dist upgrade
[19:01] <BUGabundo> been doing a few packages upgrade from hardy
[19:01] <BUGabundo> nothing BIG or vital
[19:01] <BUGabundo> found out that metacity is a bit cranky
[19:01] <BUGabundo> but don't see a bug for it
[19:01] <BUGabundo> need to colect more data and report it
[19:01] <BUGabundo> lots of dependicies failing on KDE packages... :(
[19:02] <BUGabundo> can't try the new dolphin
[19:03] <BUGabundo> the bummer, is that I reported a bug against encfs
[19:03] <BUGabundo> and it was marked as invalid
[19:03] <BUGabundo> when it should be a real bug, and warn ppl, while upgrading
[19:03] <BUGabundo> many ppl will lose their stuff that is encripted...
[19:23] <BUGabundo> found that metacity bug: #238049
[19:38] <crdlb> BUGabundo: gtk-window-decorator needed an update for the latest version of metacity
[21:14] <DoYouKnow> what is the probability that dist-upgrade will fail entirely at this point?
[21:14] <DoYouKnow> does it have redundancy
[21:14] <DoYouKnow> ?
[21:15] <DoYouKnow> I'm in virtualbox
[22:01] <allenon> can anyone tell me of a place to find what's included in the 3.64gb dvd version of Ubuntu64?
[22:01] <allenon> i'm just not sure why it's so big in size
[22:07] <allenon> err..test?
[22:12] <WelshDragon> Boo
[22:13] <DoYouKnow> DoYouKnow: 0 Apt-get "god": 1
[22:16] <mphill> is it too much bad ju ju to release alpha1 on friday the 13th?
[22:28] <Ekushey> mphill, good question ;)
[23:16] <ryancr> is there any daily isos of intrepid yet? if so where can I find them
[23:25] <WelshDragon> Nope ryancr
[23:26] <ryancr> WelshDragon: thanks, ill wait for alpha 1 then