[12:01] <soundray> __doc__: what's messed?
[12:01] <larson9999> thinking about getting a laptop with an intel 950 graphics card.  does it support linux or vice versa for 3d?
[12:01] <__doc__> soundray: http://rafb.net/p/WLxmPg89.html
[12:01] <unop> SuperTeece,  about the onboard one, make sure the BIOS has it enabled and if there's a button to turn it on , depress it -- does lspci list it?
[12:01] <th1> is there a way to tell firefox to open folders with KDE file manager instead of the Gnome one?
[12:01] <SuperTeece> unop: restarted successfully but still nothing
[12:01] <shatrat> larson9999, the intel chipsets are pretty well supported by open source drivers.
[12:02] <__doc__> soundray: whenever I now engage apt, aptitude or dpkg I'm greeted with a line of errors relating to that
[12:02] <SuperTeece> unop: yes it is enabled, the onboard's light is on, and lspci does list it
[12:02] <ChaosEddie> th1: im pretty sure there is
[12:02] <ChaosEddie> hold on
[12:02] <speedwolf> *sigh*
[12:02] <dm_> does anybody update feisty today? I have an issue with keyboard layout applet (gnome)
[12:02] <larson9999> shatrat: so 3d should work at least as well as ati?
[12:02] <nexousNET> !fonts
[12:02] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[12:02] <speedwolf> how do I set up a passwordless guest account in samba?
[12:02] <SuperTeece> 0000:07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Airgo Networks Inc: Unknown device 0001 (rev 01)
[12:02] <quaal> unop, i located someone else's source.list.. this section seems to be the same repository as mine http://pastebin.ca/362613
[12:02] <shatrat> larson9999, if you plan to do a lot of gaming or something you might try and get a beefier nvidia card, they dont have open source drivers but the closed source ones from nvidia are pretty good.  Just steer clear of ATI and Savage imo.
[12:03] <quaal> unop, just run that wget command ?
[12:03] <__doc__> soundray: so any clue?
[12:03] <unop> SuperTeece,  i'm not too familiar with pcmcia on linux -- there's probably something you have to do to get it running, a command perhaps
[12:03] <roostishaw> how can i run something from the terminal and then close the terminal and have it keep running?
[12:03] <shatrat> larson9999, everything has at least as good support as ati
[12:03] <shatrat> larson9999, newer ati cards anyway, some older ones are wellsupported
[12:03] <SuperTeece> unop: I was thinking the same until I followed the steps in the forums for my onboard broadcom and had the same results
[12:03] <mastermixer> roostishaw, why don't you run it outside the terminal? by pressing alt+f2 for instance
[12:03] <soundray> __doc__: do you want this scons package?
[12:04] <unop> quaal,  the first command suffices -  gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 2D6CFB44DD800CD9|gpg --export -a 2D6CFB44DD800CD9|sudo apt-key add -
[12:04] <__doc__> soundray: I can live without
[12:04] <roostishaw> mastermixer, right
[12:04] <cypherdelic> soundray: i still get GRUB loading, please wait... Error 22
[12:04] <quaal> unop, thanks much
[12:04] <larson9999> shatrat: oh, i'm trailing edge when it comes to gaming.  i get nvidia unless someone gives me a card.  but this laptop i'm looking at has the intel chip and i have no experience with it in linux.  so i was curious if they played nice with linux.
[12:04] <adaptr> cypherdelic: it's not finding the grub partition
[12:04] <soundray> __doc__: have you got the pycentral package installed?
[12:04] <ChaosEddie> hmm not finding anything
[12:04] <unop> SuperTeece,  errm, regarding the onboard, have you installed drivers for it, etc?
[12:04] <YoussefAssad> hello. Is anyone here on the ubuntu livecd?
[12:05] <SuperTeece> unop: yes
[12:05] <roostishaw> mastermixer, that shortcut dont work
[12:05] <adaptr> only once, with any luck
[12:05] <soundray> __doc__: sorry, I mean python-central
[12:05] <SuperTeece> unop: I'm going to try reinstalling ndiswraper
[12:05] <unop> SuperTeece,  does  ifconfig have anything to say about the interface ?? ifconfig -a
[12:05] <shatrat> larson9999, intel puts a lot of work into open source actually.  Their driver works with AIGLX as well so not only does it do openGL but it can also do composite desktops like beryl and compiz.  The only shortcoming with intel is they just arent as beefy hardware wise as the nvidia cards.
[12:05] <SuperTeece> unop: I'll ba back either way
[12:05] <cypherdelic> adapt: boot is definetly on /dev/sda3
[12:05] <unop> SuperTeece,  wait wait
[12:05] <ChaosEddie> YoussefAssad: yes
[12:05] <__doc__> soundray: yes it is installed
[12:05] <mastermixer> roostishaw, aren't you using ubuntu 6.10?
[12:06] <SuperTeece> unop: ok
[12:06] <unop> SuperTeece,  find out whats wrong with your interfaces before reinstalling (and this isnt windows)
[12:06] <adaptr> cypherdelic: that's irrelevant - it's what grub sees when you boot from the HD that counts, and it often sees it differently than when booting from CD
[12:06] <Conman1303> can anyone explain how to extend my monitor to my tv to play movies using s video with an ati radeon card?
[12:06] <SuperTeece> unop: ifconfig -a just shows my ethernet card and the lo
[12:06] <soundray> __doc__: you could force a success of the postinst script. That would let you remove the package.
[12:06] <shatrat> larson9999, heres a comparison of the open source driver vs a low end PCI-E ati card larson9999 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=646&num=1
[12:06] <larson9999> alright shatrat, i'll take your word and get it.  power wise the chip is plenty
[12:06] <adaptr> SuperTeece: wehat does lspci show for the card ? is the module loaded ?
[12:06] <cypherdelic> adaptr, so, any ideas?
[12:06] <ChaosEddie> YoussefAssad: how can i help you?
[12:06] <__doc__> soundray: hm, is that in the man to aptitude?
[12:07] <SuperTeece> adaptr: 0000:07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Airgo Networks Inc: Unknown device 0001 (rev 01)
[12:07] <adaptr> cypherdelic: best bet is to boot the livecd and examine grub.conf/menu.lst
[12:07] <mahound> hey
[12:07] <edolo> i've just installed ubuntu. i haven't found any browser
[12:07] <mahound> how do i change my screen resolution?
[12:07] <unop> SuperTeece,  ok, examine these two files for any clues/mention of your cards -- tail -n 50 /var/log/{dmesg,messages}
[12:07] <soundray> __doc__: no, it's a whacky hack. Edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/scons.postinst and insert 'exit  0' as the second line. Then run sudo apt-get -f install
[12:07] <YoussefAssad> ChaosEddie: If you're on the live disc, I'd just like to know if you have a program called install-mbr in your path (don't run it, just check if you can)
[12:07] <korey> edolo, you can't find a web browser in Ubuntu?
[12:07] <roostishaw> mastermixer, yes. but i have a macbook, so they keymap is different.
[12:07] <mastermixer> mahound, check System > Preferences
[12:07] <adaptr> cypherdelic: if it mentions hd1 or some such, and you know it boots as hd0, then you need to change them around, and re-install grub on the MBR with the correct partition for it
[12:07] <SuperTeece> adaptr: and for the second card 0000:06:04.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[12:07] <mahound> master_of_master, the "screen resolution" menu only shows a possible resolution
[12:07] <roostishaw> mastermixer, any other way?
[12:07] <shatrat> edolo, firefox is installed by default, it should be under applications
[12:07] <mahound> mastermixer, , the "screen resolution" menu only shows a possible resolution
[12:07] <ChaosEddie> where is the path?
[12:08] <adaptr> SuperTeece: second card ? you have two and neither show up ?
[12:08] <korey> wow, this chat is busy
[12:08] <shatrat> korey, usually ~1000 people here
[12:08] <edolo> shatrat, it isn't
[12:08] <YoussefAssad> ChaosEddie: if you type install-m and then hit tab, if you hve it it should tab-complete. You might have to hit tab twice
[12:08] <soundray> mahound: sounds like you have made progress after all. Did you get a different computer?
[12:08] <adaptr> mahound: actually, the screen resolution box shows every *configured* resolution
[12:08] <mastermixer> mahound, you have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf --> set the frequencies your monitor can handle, and you'll have more frequencies options in that menu
[12:08] <YoussefAssad> ChaosEddie: this in a command line. A terminal
[12:08] <adaptr> mahound: and in that sense, for you at that moment, the only possible resolutions
[12:08] <shatrat> edolo, well, if its not under Applications -> Internet then you could install it I suppose.  Open an terminal and run "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[12:09] <ChaosEddie> where is the command line?
[12:09] <mastermixer> roostishaw, i don't know of any other way to bring up the "Run Application" dialog box
[12:09] <YoussefAssad> ChaosEddie: Gnome terminal
[12:09] <mastermixer> maybe someone in here know of a way to do it
[12:09] <soundray> mahound: slightly easier than mastermixer's suggestion: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and tick the resolutions you are going to use.
[12:09] <shatrat> ChaosEddie, terminal is under Applications Accessories.  Just drag it onto the panel, its more convenient if you use it a lot
[12:09] <roostishaw> ok
[12:09] <mahound> soundray, no, i deleted the ntfs partition
[12:09] <mahound> cool
[12:09] <roostishaw> mastermixer, ok... thanks anyway
[12:09] <ChaosEddie> so it IS terminal?
[12:09] <SuperTeece> adaptr: correct
[12:09] <__doc__> soundray: it's a whacky hack yeah but it works.
[12:09] <shatrat> ChaosEddie, well, its a shell.
[12:09] <soundray> mahound: on all the other questions, just accept the default
[12:10] <ChaosEddie> ... can you just tell me what to type?
[12:10] <soundray> __doc__: :)
[12:10] <SuperTeece> unop: the only thing sticking out to be is it says ndiswrapper 1.37 installed
[12:10] <shatrat> ChaosEddie, sure, type "fortune" and hit enter
[12:10] <__doc__> soundray: so bascially if a package screws up in postinst or prerm of dpkg you're in trouble you need to apply a small dose of voodoo to get out of
[12:10] <cypherdelic> adaptr, so i need to change root (hd0,x) due i think its a partition numbering failure and then update-grub and try??
[12:10] <adaptr> SuperTeece: so are there any modules loaded ?
[12:10] <OuZo_> were can i send crash reports?
[12:10] <mastermixer> soundray, i'm still command line addict, thanks for a better explanation to  mahound
[12:10] <YoussefAssad> ChaosEddie: the command I'm looking for isn't the safest one, so maybe you'd better sit this one out :)
[12:10] <ChaosEddie> uh it told me my goose was cooked and my current chick is burning up too!
[12:10] <GrimSleeper> Hmm I can't do much, somehow I can't run things as user root? Help
[12:10] <SuperTeece> adapter: you'll have to break that down for me, heh
[12:10] <adaptr> cypherdelic: update-huh ? no, you need to first *verify* what it is set to now, and redirect it to the correct one - are there populated IDE channels on your system ?
[12:10] <unop> SuperTeece,  have you loaded the ndiswrapper module?
[12:11] <ChaosEddie> YoussefAssad: nah its cool
[12:11] <Dextorion> Anyone have a substitute for Picasa2 ?   Or would that be the better picture organizer app?
[12:11] <adaptr> SuperTeece: lsmod, pastebin the output
[12:11] <SuperTeece> unop: I don't know, elaborate please?
[12:11] <th1> ChaosEddie, any luck? I found out how to replace the "Save" dialog, but not the "Open containing folder" one
[12:11] <soundray> __doc__: yes. The problem is, some packages may not work if the postinst script has failed, so if you have forced something like that, you should really remove the package and report a bug
[12:11] <jrib> Dextorion: have you tried f-spot?
[12:11] <cypherdelic> adaptr, so, where to verify, or how, and what, where to fix?
[12:11] <mastermixer> Dextorion, F-Spot ?
[12:11] <mindstate> how can i remove entries into my Applications menu in gnome?
[12:11] <ChaosEddie> th1: nah i couldnt figure it out
[12:11] <shatrat> mindstate, right click on it and you can edit the menu
[12:11] <SuperTeece> adaptr: it's huge you want it all or should I look for something specific?
[12:11] <Dextorion> :)  Thank you jrib  and mastermixer.   So you guys think F-Spot is better then Picasa?  Or just an alternetive?
[12:11] <adaptr> cypherdelic: boot livecd, run grub, enter "root (hd" and press TAB key
[12:11] <mindstate> shatrat: i dont want to just hide stuff.i want to permantely delete
[12:12] <jrib> Dextorion: never used picasa so can't say
[12:12] <adaptr> SuperTeece: paste it
[12:12] <__doc__> soundray: when you search for the exception to this you find it all over the place, it seems to be a widespread problem with dpkg
[12:12] <Dextorion> jrib: Okay, thank you.
[12:12] <adaptr> !pastebin | SuperTeece
[12:12] <ubotu> SuperTeece: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:12] <shatrat> mindstate, isnt there a Remove button?
[12:12] <mastermixer> Dextorion, never used Picasa, but i like F-Spot's features
[12:12] <unop> SuperTeece,  dont paste in here tho .. use a !pastebin :)
[12:12] <shatrat> mindstate, ah, you have to right click and delete
[12:12] <mastermixer> it sure is a good alternative
[12:12] <Dextorion> mastermixer: Alrighty, thank you.
[12:12] <mothersuperior> anyone here using wlan-ng drivers?
[12:12] <bubba> Dextorion: f-spot is cleaner, simpler. i like it better
[12:12] <unop> SuperTeece,  for reference : http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch13_:_Linux_Wireless_Networking
[12:12] <adaptr> cypherdelic: next, if that shows you your ext3 partitions, choose the one where the /boot directory is - usually /, unless you configured it differently
[12:12] <quaal> unop, hmm after running that command i got this http://pastebin.ca/362622 and then apt-get install gave the same error as the original..
[12:12] <mindstate> shatrat: right clicking does nothing for me
[12:13] <Dextorion> bubba: Thank you.
[12:13] <shatrat> bubba, but picasa is owned by google which makes it cooler to geeks
[12:13] <bubba> shatrat: naaah
[12:13] <adaptr> cypherdelic: then, enter that partition and type "setup (hd0)"
[12:13] <__doc__> soundray: the ticket about this issue should almost automagically file itself purely from the number of times this crops up in a google search
[12:13] <mindstate> shatrat: isnt there a folder for it? that i can just remove
[12:13] <Dextorion> hm..  I'll definatly have a look at F-spot before i start building my collection here then.
[12:13] <adaptr> cypherdelic: reboot, and it should now find the grub menu , at least
[12:13] <shatrat> mindstate, you have to right click on the righthand side of the Menu Layout editor on whatever element you want to delete
[12:13] <shatrat> mindstate, probably, I dont knkow where it is
[12:14] <cypherdelic> adaptr, fine, thanks, i will try that, please hold on for eventueally greetings :)
[12:14] <soundray> __doc__: it's easy to get a postinst script wrong. In the case of the scons package, it could have been as simple as a missing dependency on python-central (that's not it, scons does depend on it).
[12:14] <edolo> i can't install firefox because "is impossible do lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock"
[12:14] <mindstate> shatrat: i want the folder location lol
[12:14] <unop> quaal,  hmm, is this the first time you've used pgp? it looks like it
[12:14] <GrimSleeper> "failed to run network-admin as user root"
[12:14] <adaptr> shatrat: why so ? google is da evil these days
[12:14] <shatrat> adaptr, lies.
[12:14] <unop> edolo,  are you running that command as superuser
[12:14] <adaptr> edolo: you already have a package manager open
[12:14] <mindstate> edolo: use sudo
[12:14] <mothersuperior> ANYONE  USE WLANNG DRIVERS
[12:14] <korey> ok, here is my question.  How can I boot from a live cd into my newly installed ubuntu?  grub on the hard drive does not work.
[12:14] <ant30> Somebody know the name of next next Ubuntu 7.10 ?
[12:14] <adaptr> !caps | mothersuperior
[12:14] <ubotu> mothersuperior: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:14] <unop> !CAPS
[12:14] <Dextorion> bubba: mastermixer: jrib:  Do you guys edit your pictures anything?  Or just store them? If you edit, what program? :)
[12:14] <Colonel> Fiesty Fawn
[12:14] <LjL> !caps | mothersuperior
[12:14] <adaptr> heh
[12:14] <SuperTeece> adaptr: got it  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6484/
[12:14] <mothersuperior> sorry
[12:15] <LjL> !feisty > ant30    (ant30, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:15] <mindstate> anyone know where the folder for the "applications" menu in gnome is located
[12:15] <__doc__> soundray: btw. if you want one to laugh. it seems like the bios revisions of i810 intel chipsets between A22 and A32 in dell notebooks was changed in respectively to the A06 revision such as to break both i810 and 845patch, such that setting the grakas memory doesn't help and you've got to live with 8-bit color.
[12:15] <zen> My sound is really soft...besides the normal volume controls, is there a way to make it louder?
[12:15] <cafuego_> mindstate: they're not folders
[12:15] <jrib> Dextorion: I don't really edit pictures much but in the past I've used GIMP
[12:15] <SuperTeece> unop: thanks for the paste help, I almost did a bad thing
[12:15] <mindstate> cafuego: what are they
[12:15] <bubba> zen: have the same problem
[12:15] <mastermixer> ant30, those numbers mean the year and month of the release.. it'll surely start with a 7
[12:15] <ant30> I ask for pass feisty
[12:15] <Dextorion> jrib: Great. I've already had a look at GIMP. Looks very nice!
[12:15] <soundray> __doc__: "grakas"? You German?
[12:15] <__doc__> soundray: hmmmm yummi 8-bit color, reminds me of the good 'ol times
[12:15] <mothersuperior> anyone use wlan-ng drivers?
[12:16] <quaal> unop, hmm
[12:16] <__doc__> soundray: swiss
[12:16] <ant30> it's known ?
[12:16] <quaal> unop i have failed you :(
[12:16] <cafuego_> mindstate: Check out the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications/
[12:16] <korey> is there a way to boot from live cd into alrady installed system?
[12:16] <mastermixer> Dextorion, i use gimp myself aswell, but if you can also use photoshop in wine
[12:16] <mindstate> cafuego: aight, thanks
[12:16] <unop> SuperTeece,  np :)
[12:16] <th1> any idea why gnome is default in ubuntu, instead of KDE?
[12:16] <mahound> soundray, errr... now, we're back to 640x480 :|
[12:16] <th1> I mean tbh, gnome sucks
[12:16] <GrimSleeper> Its telling wrong password? I need some help.
[12:16] <unop> quaal,  errm, thats just a warning there not a failure -- you should be ok to continue
[12:16] <adaptr> SuperTeece: I see tc1100_wmi loaded.. but not used, that might be something
[12:17] <sethk> th1, I prefer kde, but many people hate it.  who cares which is the default?  use the one you like.
[12:17] <Slart> th1: obviously enough people in ubuntu-land doesn't agree
[12:17] <korey> th1, for KDE default, download Kubuntu instead of Ubuntu
[12:17] <soundray> mahound: no options in Sys-Prefs-Screen Resolution?
[12:17] <adaptr> SuperTeece: and a lot of yenta nonsense - is one of them a PCMCIA card ?
[12:17] <Cryoniq> Hi. I read somewhere that whenever there are xorg, kernel updates and so on, I should reinstall the graphics driver. Is that true and could that be the cause of some applications built for linux work slow as syrup at the moment?
[12:17] <Dextorion> mastermixer: Thanks :)
[12:17] <th1> sethk the problem is that since it is default things like firefox save dialog etc. are gnome style..
[12:17] <zen> Okay, so you guys have no idea how to raise the volume?
[12:17] <SuperTeece> adaptr: ok, lead me on, how do I rectify that?  Yes the belkin is a pcmcia
[12:17] <mahound> soundray, no
[12:17] <bubba> zen: nope
[12:17] <soundray> __doc__: I guess Dell is one of many manufacturers that just hasn't "got" open source yet.
[12:17] <adaptr> SuperTeece: there is a log, or a potential log, for pcmcia events you can look at
[12:17] <sethk> th1, not on my box, but I install firefox from the firefox web site, not from the repos
[12:17] <bubba> zen: i onlu have the problem on my laptop though
[12:18] <adaptr> SuperTeece: but what is the other one, built-in ?
[12:18] <mastermixer> mahound, you shouldn't forget to set the frequencies your monitor can handle
[12:18] <th1> sethk, ok maybe I will try that
[12:18] <shatrat> Cryoniq, it depends on how you installed your drivers in the first place.  Most repositories should auto update them.  if you run glxinfo | grep rendering does it say yes?
[12:18] <SuperTeece> adapter: the pcmcia card is MIMO so I prefer to get that one working if possible
[12:18] <__doc__> soundray: it'd be intel in this case
[12:18] <zen> bubba, yeah, I'm on my laptop...you using ALSA or something else?
[12:18] <soundray> mahound: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[12:18] <bubba> zen: alsa indeed
[12:18] <SuperTeece> adaptr: yes, the broadcom is builtin
[12:18] <Cryoniq> It says yes.. but it also reports.. hang on
[12:18] <Icehawk78> Is anyone familiar enough with Postfix and Courier-IMAP to be able to help me with setting up a new account to be able to set up POP3 access only to?
[12:18] <Cryoniq> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[12:18] <soundray> __doc__: I see
[12:18] <Cryoniq> direct rendering: Yes
[12:19] <bubba> zen: i've got everything cranked to the maximum levels and it still sound pretty pityful
[12:19] <Cryoniq> What does that warning mean?
[12:19] <DigitalNinja> Has anyone here used "electricsheep"? I can't get mine to connect to the server and download a "sheep".
[12:19] <sethk> Icehawk78, if you don't add the user to courier, you will pretty much get exactly that without doing anything else
[12:19] <DJS_2_6> Hello.  Trying to access a sun server's serial lom port using a serial cable.  I have not done this in a long time, and have forgotten and been unable to find what cli command to use to start the access.  Could someone please help me or point me in the right direction?
[12:19] <q_> any idea about the best power management program for laptops?
[12:19] <sethk> Icehawk78, courier has it's own user configuration.
[12:19] <shatrat> Cryoniq, the warning is harmless.  You look to be in good shape as far as drivers go.
[12:19] <adaptr> SuperTeece: I hear bad things about broadcom...
[12:19] <zen> bubba, I fixed it...in a really, _really_ wierd way....
[12:19] <bubba> zen: ??
[12:19] <Icehawk78> sethk: So far Ive literally just c/ped exactly line for line from an FAQ, so I'm not even sure how to get this stuff set up in any manner.
[12:19] <zen> bubba, you won't believe me.... >.>
[12:20] <bubba> zen: ??????
[12:20] <GrimSleeper> How come I can log in, but if I want to mess with the network or change the time it wont let me? Any ideas.  Everything worked fine until I used the update mangager.
[12:20] <Cryoniq> Aye I think so too kinda.. beryl is working fine.. second life works pretty good.. must be related to the other programs then. Just had to pop a question about it :)
[12:20] <SuperTeece> adapter: the sad sad thing is that this broadcom card worked fine before I deployed, not (after reinstalling the os) following the same steps as 5 months ago gets me to this issue
[12:20] <nerdzyboy> Could anyone help me instal rt400 drivers (ralink wifi drivers) for ubuntu with kernel version 2.6.15-28-686?
[12:20] <sethk> Icehawk78, I use webmin for postfix, and for courier I use the courier CLI config program which has an add user function
[12:20] <__doc__> soundray: I've had about enough of the proprietary driver field circus. It's a show without merit. Consumers are screwed over crosswise by the hardware vendors who are in bed with m$, somebody should start passing law about the strangling of emerging technoglogy markets and get m$ wiped
[12:20] <zen> bubba, Alright, so I was listening to streaming music off the net, and it was really soft.  Decided to test what happened if I listen to music locally...
[12:20] <soundray> q_: most power management features are kernel features. You can edit /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf for more control than Gnome grants you.
[12:20] <bubba> zen: and...
[12:20] <shatrat> Cryoniq, 3D apps are gonna slow down while youre running beryl because it uses a lot of resources.
[12:21] <SuperTeece> adaptr: so what do you think my next step is?
[12:21] <Cryoniq> shatrat, aye.. that is why I unloaded beryl and tried as well :)
[12:21] <Icehawk78> sethk: Would you have a link that could explain how to use either of these? I'm literally *just* beginning to use Linux and am not extremely familiar with it
[12:21] <sogen> my ubuntu works not good help me
[12:21] <adaptr> SuperTeece: take one of the cards out and start getting the other one to work.. tryingto troubleshoot two wifi nics at once is bound to be troublematic
[12:21] <sethk> Icehawk78, let me look, hold on a moment
[12:21] <ChaosEddie> sogen: knowing the problm will help
[12:21] <Icehawk78> sethk: I'm also running it as a pure server with no GUI
[12:21] <Icehawk78> Thanks
[12:22] <shatrat> __doc__, you cant legislate intelligence into consumers.  drivers are getting better and better.  nvidia ones are just as good as their windows product, and ati is at least trying to catch up
[12:22] <sethk> Icehawk78, doesn't matter, you can run webmin in a web browser on another machine on the network
[12:22] <adaptr> !webmin
[12:22] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[12:22] <sogen> ChaosEddie: i do not know english good my ubuntu craching all the time
[12:22] <lineman60> ok i did  a fresh install, followed this to a T http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174 wireless conection is dog slow and i get random dissconects any ideas?
[12:22] <zen> bubba, so I try with totem...still soft...then on a whim...I try MPlayer (gui'd).  I turn notice it's internal volume is low, so I push that up, and the music that was streaming gets louder too.  (The stream was playing in XMMS, which was maxed).  Now everything else was maxed....so I was rather surprised.
[12:22] <nerdzyboy> Could anyone help me instal rt400 drivers (ralink wifi drivers) for ubuntu with kernel version 2.6.15-28-686?  Please, help me...
[12:22] <soundray> __doc__: in the case of ATI and Nvidia, I guess there might be foul play involved. But many manufacturers simply haven't understood that they could have drivers written for them, if they just managed to organize a minimal amount of developer support.
[12:22] <ChaosEddie> sogen: it;s okay. just tell me when it crashes/what it says when it crashes
[12:22] <korey> Is there a way to boot from live cd into the Ubuntu already on the hard drive?
[12:22] <cypherdelic> adaptr: im at that point where i type root (hd in grub and press TAB, it does a tabstopp, not showing me anthing (i did chroot /mnt/linux/)
[12:23] <SuperTeece> adaptr: I agree. I started with the pcmcia because it is MIMO and thus faster. I gave up on it and started working on the built-in instead because I knew it worked in the past. When I had the same issue, I started asking for help on the forums (which has been ignored) and now I aM HERE
[12:23] <soundray> korey: no, if your grub doesn't work, you should fix it as if Windows had overwritten it:
[12:23] <soundray> !grub | korey
[12:23] <ubotu> korey: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:23] <Eposhark> Hi, I seem to have a problem partition a Hard disk: I added the Hard Disk to my system, and I started cfdisk to partition it, by typing "cfdisk /dev/hdd" as root
[12:23] <sogen> ChaosEddie: can we to to prive chat ?
[12:23] <adaptr> cypherdelic: the chroot is not needed, but howmany disks do you have ?
[12:23] <ChaosEddie> of course
[12:23] <__doc__> shatrat: you can legislate that a producer of hardware has to either provide working quality drivers for minor emerging operating systems around or open the spec so they can be provided. But doing neither and getting away with it, and thus helping m$ to promote their shoddyware isn't really in the interest of competition.
[12:23] <nerdzyboy> anyone?
[12:24] <korey> soundray,ubotu: grub will not work on my hard drive for some reason, not on this pc
[12:24] <Eposhark> Then in that menu, I created one partition, as Linux partition, when that was done, I quit the program - however, there is no /dev/hdd1 that I can mount
[12:24] <Eposhark> What should I do?
[12:24] <cypherdelic> adapt: its a noteboob, having 1 harddisk /dev/sda
[12:24] <cypherdelic> book
[12:24] <SuperTeece> adaptr: do you know how to check which version of ndiswrapper libs I have installed?
[12:24] <Eposhark> There is only /dev/hdd in /dev/, no /dev/hdd1 ...
[12:24] <soundray> mahound: did I miss your pastebin URL?
[12:24] <adaptr> __doc__: there are serious FCC issues with open-sourcing WiFi driver code and specs.. they don't always appreciate it when consumers go changing the frequencies of 2GHz chipsets.....
[12:24] <lnxmomo> hi
[12:24] <mahound> soundray, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6486/
[12:24] <Eposhark> Is that becaussssssss only have one partition?
[12:24] <adaptr> SuperTeece: nope, never used it
[12:24] <sethk> Icehawk78, I have a man page for cyradm, which is the cyrus imap configuration program.  There are URLs for this stuff, let's see if I can hunt one up.  Once you get webmin up and running, it is mostly self-explanatory.  If you want to use cli only, you can, but that means editing the postfix configuration files directly.  Which is not really a big deal, but obviously with an admin program it's much easier.
[12:25] <GrimSleeper> how do I access as root?  My user pass doesnt work.  Im pulling my hair out now.
[12:25] <mahound> soundray, sorry, just pasted it right now
[12:25] <adaptr> cypherdelic: and it's SATA ?
[12:25] <jrib> !sudo | GrimSleeper
[12:25] <ubotu> GrimSleeper: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:25] <cypherdelic> yes
[12:25] <lnxmomo> is there something that can display my parallel printer like lsusb displays my usb pen?
[12:25] <SuperTeece> ok well I'm gone for now, I'll be back later to try again if I haven't figures it out
[12:25] <bubba> zen: strange... I must admit I never really understood how these alsa volume settings worked
[12:25] <SuperTeece> bye bye
[12:25] <fglrx> I AM THE SPAWN OF SATAN! MUAHAHAHAHAHA.
[12:25] <mahound> soundray, i'm currently on 1024x768, but everything seems horizontally stretched
[12:25] <GrimSleeper> thx, I'll check it out.
[12:25] <shatrat> __doc__, so then everybody has to make drivers for gnu/hurd and opensolaris and minix or else open up their source so that patent trolls can take them to court over frivolous nonsense all over the world?   The problem is solving itself through market forces.  Intel voluntarily documents its hardware and nvidia supports linux bsd and solaris.   more annoying laws will only make things worse
[12:25] <cypherdelic> adaptr yes
[12:25] <lnxmomo> anyone?
[12:25] <adaptr> cypherdelic: in that case it should just be hd0, run "root (hd0,x)" and "setup (hd0)" in grub... if you know which partitoin holds your /boot
[12:26] <__doc__> adaptr: if you have minimal electrotechnical working knowledge you can produe frequencies smackin the middle of where you shouldn't
[12:26] <Icehawk78> sethk: Should I just ignore the think from ubotu saying not to use webmin, then?
[12:26] <lnxmomo> is there something that can display my parallel printer like lsusb displays my usb pen?
[12:26] <sethk> Icehawk78, yes, that's political nonsense
[12:26] <__doc__> adaptr: nobody prevents you from buying electronics equipment, transistors and soldering iron because of that, do they?
[12:26] <quaal> unop what is just a warning, the message after the apt-get update ?
[12:26] <adaptr> __doc__: but not with closed-source wifi drivers.. which is the whole point, they don't want to make it any easier
[12:26] <Icehawk78> lol, okay, just checking.
[12:26] <cypherdelic> adapt how to find that out
[12:26] <nexousNET> Hi, I just moved a ttf font to /home/MYUSERNAME/.fonts/ and the font is shown, but is all " . "
[12:26] <sethk> Icehawk78, somebody doesn't like the license that webmin is using on future releases.   If so, do you know what the default dir is for codecs (repo install)?
[12:26] <cypherdelic> adapt before installation of feisty it was (hd0,2) (sda3)
[12:27] <Lunar_Lamp> I was performing the following command "rsync -rv /dir/ /dir/" when I ran out of disc space. I have now freed up the required space - how do I run the rsync again, but tell it to ignore files that are already there (i.e. not recopy existing files)?
[12:27] <__doc__> adaptr: sure it's illegal, but buying soldering iron isn't
[12:27] <hey560> suspend
[12:27] <unop> quaal,  what happens when you try and update now?
[12:27] <sethk> Icehawk78, I don't use linux for political reasons, I use it to do work that needs to be done, and I do it in the way that's best for me.
[12:27] <adaptr> cypherdelic: the partition won't have changed, but feisty ? why ?
[12:27] <__doc__> adaptr: which is the whole point
[12:27] <hey560> ?suspend
[12:27] <fglrx> Trixsey: /usr/lib/win32
[12:27] <Icehawk78> sethk: Same here.
[12:27] <Flannel> sethk, Icehawk78, it's more of a "the maintainer stopped doing it" than anything else, without a maintainer it can't exist
[12:27] <cypherdelic> adaptr just to check it out
[12:27] <adaptr> __doc__: I no longer get, or care for, the point, so neh
[12:27] <hey560> does anyone know how to fix suspend issues on a lenovo n100?
[12:27] <Eposhark> Why is issuing "fdisk -l" taking a while on some HDD's?
[12:27] <quaal> unop, same message as the original.
[12:27] <adaptr> cypherdelic: #ubuntu+1
[12:27] <sethk> Eposhark, for something that can't exist, it works pretty well  :)
[12:28] <Trixsey> fglrx, in both dapper, edgy and feisty?
[12:28] <Eposhark> What do you mean sethk ?
[12:28] <__doc__> adaptr: saying you can't opensource wireless drivers because it would allow people to mess with the frequencies is like saying you can't sell soldering iron because people use it to assemble circuitry that can produce high frequency EM waves.
[12:28] <__doc__> adaptr: it's silly
[12:28] <adaptr> Trixsey: yes, in all 4 :)
[12:28] <unop> quaal,  but the last you showed me was this http://pastebin.ca/362622 -- which i dont believe has anything to do with apt-get/aptitude
[12:28] <fglrx> Trixsey: What does mplayer have to do with dapper, edgy and feisty? It's produced by totally different people.
[12:28] <quaal> unop this one http://pastebin.ca/362634
[12:28] <Eposhark> fdisk -l says:    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[12:28] <Eposhark> /dev/hdd1               1        9730    78156193+  83  Linux
[12:28] <sethk> __doc__, that's quite correct, plus, the NDIS drivers will theoretically let you mess with any wireless hardware.
[12:28] <quaal> unop, thats the last lines of the apt-get update
[12:28] <soundray> mahound: there's nothing obviously wrong with that configuration
[12:28] <mahound> soundray, any clue?
[12:28] <Eposhark> However, I can't mount it: root@lannie:/home/epo# mount -t ext3 /dev/hdd /mnt/hitachi/
[12:28] <Eposhark> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd,
[12:29] <adaptr> __doc__: there is a real difference: with open source code, ONE person can write a driver that allows everybody else on the planet to use that code to re-program their wifi transceivers.. that's hard to do with one soldering iron
[12:29] <Trixsey> fglrx, yeah but according to mplayer, the default dir for codecs is /usr/local/lib/codecs/
[12:29] <cypherdelic> adaptr : Error 21: Selected Disk does not exist (root (hd0,0) (hd0,1) h(hd0,2) (hd1,2)
[12:29] <unop> quaal,  try this then - wget http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/EDD1E155.gpg -O-|sudo apt-key add -
[12:29] <Trixsey> fglrx, who made is has little importance in this case.. rather who configured it
[12:29] <Eposhark> Also, if I try "hdd1", it says it doesn't exist: root@lannie:/home/epo# mount -t ext3 /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hitachi/
[12:29] <Eposhark> mount: special device /dev/hdd1 does not exist
[12:29] <adaptr> cypherdelic: you don't have a hd1
[12:29] <shatrat> adaptr, what exactly is the problem with that?
[12:29] <soundray> mahound: you might want to try Option "UseFBDev" "false", but that's just speculation
[12:29] <cypherdelic> adaptr : seems that i even have a hd0
[12:30] <soundray> mahound: have you had a look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[12:30] <sethk> __doc__, I happen to have been writing device drivers for wireless stuff the last six months or so, and the frequency control is typically in the hardware, not the software.  Even if it were in the software, the argument would be foolish, but it's doubly foolish if it's in the hardware.
[12:30] <adaptr> shatrat: the FCC forbids it, I never said there was a problem as such, just the reasoning behind not open-sourcing transceiver specs
[12:30] <adaptr> shatrat: they're not MY reasons
[12:30] <nexousNET> Hi, I just moved a ttf font to /home/MYUSERNAME/.fonts/ and the font is shown, but is all " . "
[12:30] <ChaosEddie> sogen: are you there? im still waiting for your PM
[12:30] <sethk> adaptr, the fcc doesn't have anything whatsoever to say about it, actually.
[12:30] <__doc__> adaptr: welcome within the last terrasecond of the singularity, stoneheaded conservatists who are afraid of change are going to have a scary one
[12:30] <brianski> is there a way to disable the fadeout effect when you click the shutdown button in gnome?
[12:31] <adaptr> sethk: hmm ?
[12:31] <Dextorion> F-Spot seams ver nice..
[12:31] <sethk> adaptr, I work on this stuff all the time, there are no fcc restrictions on what I can do in hardware vs software
[12:31] <kitche> adaptr; fcc just tells you how much power and how high your antiena and transmitter can have really
[12:31] <sogen> ChaosEddie:  im PMing you hmm..
[12:31] <Dextorion> its..  simpler.
[12:31] <adaptr> __doc__: do you make more sense when sober ?
[12:31] <cypherdelic> adaptr: what to do now?
[12:31] <adaptr> sethk: I see, thanks
[12:31] <sogen> ChaosEddie: or im doingsomething wrong :P
[12:31] <sethk> adaptr, the fcc specifies which frequencies I use, and how far I'm allowed to drift, etc., but nothing at the software level.
[12:31] <shatrat> doc needs an emotional weblog somewhere that nobody reads, hes very poetic
[12:31] <adaptr> kitche: yeah, that was it...
[12:32] <__doc__> adaptr: no, but is that a hidden critique on my 15yr springbanks?
[12:32] <ChaosEddie> no it's not you
[12:32] <ChaosEddie> im not resigtered on my nick
[12:32] <ChaosEddie> msg me in #flood
[12:32] <Dextorion> jrib: Do i have to import the pictures into the directory Photos? Is there anyway to set which directory i want to use?
[12:32] <jrib> Dextorion: not sure
[12:32] <adaptr> sethk: that's the whole point - if you have access to the driver specs, you can reprogram the transceiver and alter the frequencies (and often the power output as well)
[12:32] <mahound> soundray, "no mode of this name"
[12:32] <insomninja> Anyone with any luck with sound on the Nvidia MCP51 chipset?
[12:32] <adaptr> __doc__: I would not dare critique your springbank suir
[12:33] <adaptr> *sir, even
[12:33] <__doc__> adaptr: if you have access to a programming language you can programm a virus that wrecks the internet and causes millions/billions of dollars of dammage...
[12:33] <jrattner> Beryl is the coolest thing ive ever seen in my life
[12:33] <sethk> adaptr, sure.  you can detune a radio transmitter by moving an inductor coil.  So what?  You aren't supposed to run out of specs, but that has nothing to do with which things are done in hardware and which in software, and with what is, or isn't, open source.
[12:33] <adaptr> __doc__: actually, surprisingly few people actually manage that..,. it's a real skill
[12:33] <__doc__> adaptr: but people *have* managed
[12:33] <fglrx> mahound: What are you trying to do?
[12:33] <Eposhark> My HDD problem summarized, who knows what seems to be the problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6488/
[12:33] <soundray> mahound: what's that?
[12:34] <adaptr> sethk: but you're not providing any arguments - if the FCC regulates the frequencies you can use, then they regulate what you can set them to in software just as much as in hardware
[12:34] <mahound> fglrx, using a higher mode... 1024x768 looks distorted
[12:34] <mahound> horizontally stretched
[12:34] <mahound> soundray, it says that for every mode above 1024+78
[12:34] <__doc__> adaptr: it's all bedies the point. responsibility can't be delegated to technical restrictions.
[12:34] <nexousNET> !ttf-fonts
[12:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ttf-fonts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:34] <fglrx> Eposhark: You're trying to mount a whole drive! /dev/hdd1 is what you should be mounting -- a partition.
[12:35] <Eposhark> Check the next line fglrx
[12:35] <fglrx> mahound: What are you trying to use?
[12:35] <cypherdelic> adaptr: of course it cant wort with chroot, straight of the head, i did it whithout chroot, foudn root (hd0,2) and did setup (hd0,2)
[12:35] <adaptr> __doc__: true, but I never made such points, I just stated a fact: it's illegal, period
[12:35] <cypherdelic> adaptr: hopefully it will be fixed now
[12:35] <sethk> adaptr, sure, I was saying that it has no impact on whether something is, or isn't, open source.
[12:35] <adaptr> cypherdelic: good one
[12:35] <fglrx> Eposhark: Oh. I need to work on that reading thing...
[12:35] <Eposhark> No problem, I'm glad you want to help me :)
[12:35] <adaptr> sethk: and that may well be so, but I have heard the argument put forward once or twice
[12:35] <soundray> mahound: can you pastebin this line and some of its context pls
[12:36] <mahound> soundray, sure
[12:36] <__doc__> adaptr: wrong
[12:36] <cypherdelic> adaptr: damn still Error 22 :(
[12:36] <SuperTeece> __doc__: I found I have ndiswrapper utils 1.8
[12:36] <__doc__> adaptr: it's illegal in your tiny spec of land
[12:36] <cypherdelic> adaptr: seems hd 0,2 be wrong?
[12:36] <cypherdelic> +to
[12:36] <adaptr> __doc__: huh ?
[12:36] <sethk> adaptr, I've done work for motorola and lucent and qualcomm, and none of their lawyers are concerned.  They bitch about open source, of course, if they think it puts their proprietary code at risk, but I've never been told that there are any regulatory issues that prevent us from making a driver open source.
[12:37] <soundray> cypherdelic: have you tried the geometry command?
[12:37] <Kaidelong> where do I go to ask about drivers? n.n
[12:37] <Icehawk78> sethk: I tried installing webmin and had some errors
[12:37] <mahound> soundray, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6489
[12:37] <boricua> can upgrade to feisty from dapper with gui?
[12:37] <jamie_> any on tell me which .conf to edit to tell gnome to use esd
[12:37] <cypherdelic> soundray: now sry what was that again, please?
[12:37] <__doc__> adaptr: the regulation authorities hereabouts enforce the law of frequencies by means of control and personel, not by imposing silly technical restrictions on software.
[12:37] <soundray> boricua: no
[12:37] <sethk> Icehawk78, if you put the errors on the paste site, we can all look at them
[12:37] <shatrat> __doc__, so maybe the swiss semiconductor giants should make their own wireless cards?
[12:37] <cypherdelic> soundray, adaptr: im restarting livecd ;)
[12:37] <boricua> soundray::-(
[12:37] <adaptr> sethk: again, sigh, I just made the point that I have heard it said .. somewhere, once, for example, nvidia's drivers, but that may all have been rumours, chill out, take the green pill, etc etc
[12:38] <adaptr> __doc__: and where is that ?
[12:38] <soundray> cypherdelic: at the grub menu, hit c to get to the grub commandline. From there, run 'geometry (hd0)'
[12:38] <sethk> adaptr, all I'm saying is that I don't believe there is really an issue.
[12:38] <__doc__> adaptr: switzerland
[12:38] <adaptr> sethk: good! let's leave it there
[12:38] <arrenlex> mahound: Oooh. I can help you. Just a second.
[12:38] <Icehawk78> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6490/
[12:38] <Eposhark> No one a clue? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6488/
[12:38] <adaptr> __doc__: and what speck of land did I come from ?
[12:38] <mahound> arrenlex, ok,  thanks
[12:38] <cypherdelic> soundray: at the menu, what menu, i even dont get any menu, do you mean in live cd, running grub??
[12:38] <arrenlex> mahound: How are you on IRC right now if X won't start?
[12:39] <adaptr> cypherdelic: he means the grub menu, which you never seem to reach...
[12:39] <__doc__> adaptr: one that has an authoriity called FCC which can only be ony spec
[12:39] <mahound> arrenlex, X starts
[12:39] <mahound> arrenlex, but not with the resolution i wanted
[12:39] <cypherdelic> soundray: i get GRUB loading ... Error 22, it cant find grub, i it cant show any menu
[12:39] <adaptr> arrenlex: that's rather short-sighted, yes ? irssi, bitchx, whatever
[12:39] <Eposhark> I'm starting to become desperate here :(
[12:39] <soundray> cypherdelic: okay
[12:39] <sethk> Eposhark, you mount a partition, which is why hdd is wrong (hdd is the disk).  Now, why fdisk sees hdd1 and mount doesn't, is quite possibly a misleading error message
[12:39] <mahound> arrenlex, besides that, this is other computer :)
[12:39] <arrenlex> adaptr: I was asking the question to see if I can give him commands like "turn off x and do this" without him leaving =P
[12:39] <cypherdelic> adaptr, soundray any further ideas? :(
[12:39] <jwtodd> hi .. .i have a sound blaster xfi installed but i don't think it is being recognized. i am reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems?highlight=%28sound%29 and could use some pointers. thx.
[12:40] <sethk> Eposhark, I came into this late, perhaps.  Did you do mkfs on this partition yourself?
[12:40] <arrenlex> mahound: Install the 915resolution package.
[12:40] <adaptr> __doc__: you're on the bottle again.. the FCC is the United States' Regulatory body for communications signals, and it's hardly a speck, but I'm not from the US - most people here are, though, hence my remarks
[12:40] <shatrat> jwtodd, you bought the wrong sound card :p  creative doesnt support the x-fi under linux or document it at all
[12:40] <cypherdelic> maybe it changed partition numbering, because in gparted, visually my third drive was not /sda3
[12:40] <mahound> arrenlex, ok
[12:40] <jwtodd> ouch
[12:40] <Eposhark> sethk: I ran cfdisk and made a partition, and it's called hdd1, and I wrote the changes to the disk. fdisk -l shows hdd1, I don't know what to do.
[12:40] <sethk> Icehawk78, webmin uses perl and some perl support libraries.  Install all of perl and these errors should go away.  You'll want both the run time and dev packages for perl.
[12:40] <cypherdelic> so maybe ill try hd0,1 for the visual second /dev/sda3?
[12:40] <adaptr> cypherdelic: you can get at that easily with fdisk -l /dev/sda
[12:41] <arrenlex> mahound: Then, run "sudo 915resolution 3c 1200 800" or whatever resolution you want for the last two numbers (my example is 1200x800)
[12:41] <arrenlex> mahound: Then restart X.
[12:41] <adaptr> cypherdelic: erm, no - you need to *know*
[12:41] <shatrat> jwtodd, its a shame because most other creative hardware works quite well with alsa
[12:41] <cypherdelic> adaptr: within chrott or livecd?
[12:41] <jwtodd> ok then ... recommended sound card then?
[12:41] <sethk> Eposhark, after creating the partition with fdisk (or cfdisk or whatever), you have to do mkfs on it before you can mount it.  say,  mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdd1
[12:41] <adaptr> cypherdelic: anywhere!
[12:41] <Icehawk78> sethk: I think I got them, but is there an overarching package that just contains all of perl to install?
[12:41] <mahound> arrenlex, thanks :D
[12:41] <sethk> Eposhark, assuming you want an ext3 file system.
[12:41] <jwtodd> i know ... my old box running ubuntu was a creative card :(
[12:41] <cypherdelic> adaptr: okay hold it
[12:41] <cypherdelic> on i mean
[12:41] <arrenlex> mahound: What this does isn't permanent, so if it works, I'll help you make a script that runs it on boot...
[12:41] <Eposhark> EXT3 is just fine, however, mkfs ext3 -t /dev/hdd1 says there is no such file
[12:42] <adaptr> Eposhark: -t ext3, not the other way around
[12:42] <sethk> Icehawk78, I'm not sure about whether there is a single perl package that encompases the others.  I just use synaptic, search for perl, and check everything.  If you have plenty of room, that's the way to go.
[12:42] <adaptr> Eposhark: /dev/hdd1 is not a type
[12:42] <arrenlex> Eposhark: If it exists when you boot from liveCD, you could just make it using mknod, I guess.
[12:42] <jwtodd> shatrat: can you recommend a comperable card you would recommend?
[12:42] <Icehawk78> sethk: Webmin appears to be working now. Did you say I should/need to install something else now?
[12:42] <adaptr> Eposhark: please follow advice literally or not at all... if it was advice, that is
[12:42] <shatrat> jwtodd, you might poke around here.  im using onboard sound at the moment. http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/index.php
[12:43] <sethk> Icehawk78, if it works, and if postfix comes up in the list of servers to manage, you're fine.
[12:43] <jwtodd> thx
[12:43] <cypherdelic> adaptr: so it shows /dev/sda1 as SWAP
[12:43] <dejx> Could anybody please tell me how to connect to crypted wireless network on xubuntu (latest), encryption is wpa
[12:43] <adaptr> Icehawk78: why not set up a rootkit ? beat them to the punch, as it were
[12:43] <adaptr> cypherdelic: and ?
[12:43] <knoppi1> hey
[12:43] <knoppi1> eroro
[12:43] <knoppi1> error
[12:43] <jwtodd> perhaps i should go on board. i have an evga mother board.
[12:43] <cypherdelic> adaptr: it shows one big as /dev/sda2, thats an extra storage and /dev/sda3 that must be my edgy root partition
[12:43] <knoppi1> Unpacking replacement dpkg ...
[12:43] <knoppi1> (11:31:15) knoppi1: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.13.25_i386.deb (--unpack):
[12:43] <adaptr> cypherdelic: you should be able to determine from the sizes
[12:43] <Icehawk78> adaptr: Why would I set up a rootkit?
[12:44] <knoppi1> how to repair this error
[12:44] <cypherdelic> adaptr: /dev/sda3 is marked as bootable
[12:44] <adaptr> Icehawk78: never mind, it was webmin humor..
[12:44] <mahound> arrenlex, ok...thanks
[12:44] <cypherdelic> adaptr: yes, size, thats what i did
[12:44] <adaptr> cypherdelic: then that holds your grub, most likely
[12:44] <arrenlex> mahound: Did it work?
[12:44] <knoppi1> !dpkg
[12:44] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[12:44] <adaptr> cypherdelic: but sda3 most definitely is hd0,2
[12:44] <cypherdelic> adaptr: then hd0,2 is right, why doesnt it work?
[12:44] <adaptr> cypherdelic: better partition manually next time ...
[12:44] <shatrat> jwtodd, im no audiofile but most onboard sound isnt all that bad in my experience.
[12:45] <cypherdelic> adaptr: i did ;)
[12:45] <knoppi1> maybe this is some dpkg error
[12:45] <adaptr> cypherdelic: well, it could be grub doesn';t understand your SATA interface
[12:45] <knoppi1> someone can do something.
[12:45] <Icehawk78> adaptr: Yeah, I'm a little slow on the uptake right now
[12:45] <adaptr> cypherdelic: you *did* ? hum...
[12:45] <cypherdelic> adaptr: i rezizes the big partition and made a new ext3 at the end for feisty
[12:45] <jwtodd> i'm u/g a 7yr old box ... i'd like to believe onboard audio has improved since then :)
[12:45] <jwtodd> thx tons.
[12:45] <adaptr> cypherdelic: woa, woa - slowdown there
[12:45] <knoppi1> feisty is in alpha
[12:45] <mahound> arrenlex, worked
[12:45] <cypherdelic> now i delted the feisty partition and want to switch back to edgy
[12:45] <dejx> hello
[12:45] <dejx> Could anybody please tell me how to connect to crypted wireless network on xubuntu (latest), encryption is wpa
[12:46] <Kaidelong> what are you planning to use?
[12:46] <knoppi1> hello you
[12:46] <Kaidelong> wpa-supplicant?
[12:46] <knoppi1> Unpacking replacement dpkg ...
[12:46] <knoppi1> (11:31:15) knoppi1: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.13.25_i386.deb (--unpack):
[12:46] <jrattner> Question: Where is edgy supposed to be released? and please just answer dont just point me some where :)
[12:47] <soundray> knoppi1: 1) you are not allowed to paste errors here, 2) you are pasting a part of an error where the important bit is missing. Put the whole message up on pastebin
[12:47] <shatrat> jrattner, april sometime I believe
[12:47] <jwtodd> hmmm ... my old card is an audigy ... which tops http://www.linuxquestions.org audio compat list. ponder.
[12:47] <Icehawk78> sethk: Would my mail server then just be pop.mynetwork.homeip.net?
[12:47] <cypherdelic> knoppi1, yes feisty is alpha, but i dont think it changed my old root partition because i told it to install on a new partition
[12:47] <jrattner> shatrat, thank you
[12:47] <soundray> !pastebin > knoppi1, read the private message from ubotu
[12:47] <kitche> jrattner: edgy is out already been out for couple of months
[12:47] <mahound> arrenlex, how do i make it permanent?
[12:48] <cypherdelic> maybe it removed the boot flag, but undid this!
[12:48] <Icehawk78> sethk: And the login info just be the user's unix login info?
[12:48] <knoppi1> he
[12:48] <sethk> Icehawk78, depends on how dns is set up.  Mine is just mail.mydomain.com
[12:48] <shatrat> jwtodd, yeah, thats why I say its surprising that creative hasnt documented their x-fi card at all, you'd think they would want it to work as well.
[12:48] <arrenlex> mahound: Good to hear! Okay, run this: sudo wget http://arrrenlex.ls.la/fixres -O/etc/init.d/fixres
[12:48] <adaptr> cypherdelic: more likely you removed grub entirely, and your edgy install as well...
[12:48] <knoppi1> cypherdelic man nobody know.GOodluck them
[12:48] <knoppi1> then
[12:48] <arrenlex> mahound: Then "sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/fixres"
[12:48] <kitche> shatrat: hehe you told him edgy suppose ot be out in april when it's been out for months
[12:48] <knoppi1> sondray he ok then leave the error i'm on KNoppix
[12:48] <sethk> Icehawk78, I use the same user login for both imap and unix.  you have to add the user and password separately to cyrus imap using cyradm
[12:48] <arrenlex> mahound: Then: sudo update-rc.d fixres defaults
[12:48] <cypherdelic> adaptr: now the partition is mountable, there is everything, boot/grub, my data
[12:49] <mahound> arrenlex, ok :)
[12:49] <sethk> Icehawk78, postfix will pick up the user automatically, without a separate step, IIRC
[12:49] <shatrat> kitche, im not good with "names" or "dates" or "facts" ok, im an abstract thinker.  Im a holistic problem solver.
[12:49] <soundray> arrenlex: something's wrong with that link
[12:49] <sethk> kitche, hey, he didn't say it would be out for the first time in April.  It should still be out in April  :)
[12:49] <Icehawk78> sethk: Thanks for the help.
[12:50] <arrenlex> soundray: You're right, I can't spell my own name. xD
[12:50] <cypherdelic> adaptr, everything is still there on /dev/sda3
[12:50] <mahound> arrenlex, are you sure that's the url?
[12:50] <arrenlex> mahound: Okay, backtrack.
[12:50] <arrenlex> mahound: sudo wget http://arrenlex.ls.la/fixres -O/etc/init.d/fixres
[12:50] <kitche> sethk: true :P
[12:50] <arrenlex> mahound: And then run the other commands.
[12:51] <cypherdelic> adaptr: are you sure that #k-opt root=UUID instead of /ev/sda3 is not a must have??
[12:51] <adaptr> cypherdelic: of course not, who said that ?
[12:51] <soundray> arrenlex: will this work with Driver "i810" ?
[12:51] <arrenlex> soundray: That's the only thing it works for.
[12:51] <cypherdelic> then i dont know, its marked bootable, it begins and cant find grub, but why
[12:52] <BlenderKitty> hey, is there any way to update my edgy install to feisty?
[12:52] <adaptr> cypherdelic: the kernel line does not need it, no - you'll need some background as to why Linux is switching to disk UUIDs
[12:52] <soundray> arrenlex: thanks
[12:52] <arrenlex> soundray: For what? xD
[12:52] <soundray> !feisty | BlenderKitty
[12:52] <ubotu> BlenderKitty: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[12:52] <adaptr> cypherdelic: no clue, as I don't know how you installed the first time, and you can't seem to figure out where your root partition is
[12:52] <cypherdelic> adaptr: i think i MUST exec grub via chroot, to make it setting up correctly
[12:53] <adaptr> cypherdelic: chroot will not (and cannot) change the names or locations of physical disks
[12:53] <soundray> arrenlex: I took the liberty to download your script, too :)  ... and I learnt something from your suggestion.
[12:53] <arrenlex> soundray: You were having resolution problems?
[12:53] <dreamerdude> is alpha the same as BETA?
[12:53] <cypherdelic> but grub needs to make the changes on the mounted final root filesystem
[12:53] <pcieasd> it's one less
[12:53] <cypherdelic> not on tmp cd
[12:53] <arrenlex> dreamerdude: No. Alpha is earlier than beta.
[12:53] <adaptr> cypherdelic: how did you boot feisty ? did you use a single boot partition to hold both, or did you overwrite the grub config ?
[12:54] <narg> configure: error: *** you need to have the Linux kernel source installed for this driver  This is for building lirc, but I have both kernel-source and headers installed. Do I need to give it the path of them?
[12:54] <soundray> arrenlex: no, it's just that I've been unable to help mahound
[12:54] <arrenlex> dreamerdude: An application goes development > alpha > beta > release candidate > release
[12:54] <dreamerdude> arrenlex: thanks
[12:54] <cypherdelic> adaptr: listen, i booted feisty amd64 desktop installation cd
[12:54] <adaptr> cypherdelic: grub will only write to the MBR of a real HD, which does not need to be mounted
[12:54] <cypherdelic> adaptr: i menually partitioned
[12:54] <adaptr> cypherdelic: so that is irrelevant
[12:54] <adaptr> cypherdelic: and you let it write the new grub to the MBR, yes ?
[12:54] <cypherdelic> adaptr: then i rezized the /dev/sda2 which is at the end
[12:55] <adaptr> cypherdelic: so it's pointing to the wrong partition now
[12:55] <cypherdelic> adaptr: then i created a 10gb ext fs
[12:55] <cypherdelic> and installed feisty on that, without touching the others
[12:55] <Dextorion> nighty
[12:55] <angel12> hey, whenever i start beryl-manager in xgl, i get a plain white screen, but i can rotate the screen as if it were my desktop
[12:55] <cypherdelic> yes
[12:55] <adaptr> cypherdelic: and you are using which grub to try to restore it now ?
[12:56] <cypherdelic> adaptr: i did "grub > root (hd0,2) > setup (hd0,2)" and rebooted, still Error 22
[12:56] <tempubun> hi, ubuntu-ppc 6.10 on apple iBook G3, what does an **INVALID IO ALLOCATION** mean in the error output from startx?
[12:56] <adaptr> cypherdelic: of course, that's not correct
[12:56] <adaptr> cypherdelic: you have not once actually overwritten the feisty grub yet
[12:56] <sethk> cypherdelic, you do root with a partition, like (hd0,2), but you do setup with a drive, in this case (hd2)
[12:56] <cypherdelic> adaptr: what will be correct?
[12:56] <adaptr> ^^^
[12:56] <tempubun> and why do i have a Red Screen Of Death?
[12:56] <Jguy101> Hey all, having some trouble...
[12:57] <adaptr> tempubun: your PC is suffering from PMS ?
[12:57] <Jguy101> I just installed 6.10, but can't seem to change my resolution to 1280x1024.
[12:57] <tempubun> join the club ...
[12:57] <tempubun> adaptr: no
[12:57] <cypherdelic> in this case (hd0= wou mean adaptr????
[12:57] <cypherdelic> not2
[12:57] <ivx> !moo
[12:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <soundray> cypherdelic: yes, that's correct. I should have checked that with you.
[12:57] <arrenlex> !fixres | Jguy101
[12:57] <ubotu> Jguy101: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:57] <Jguy101> I edited etc/X11/xorg.conf, but I still can't seem to find a way to change it.
[12:58] <cypherdelic> adaptr: so "grub > root (hd0,2) >  setup (hd0), right?
[12:58] <adaptr>  /me thinks literal cmd/output sessions should be mandatroy
[12:58] <q_> how to check if frequency scaling is supported by my Acer TravelMate 2482?
[12:58] <jwtodd> shatrat: on board sound is working. thx!
[12:58] <Borat> Hey, does anyone know where i can find the font Swis721 or luxi sans????
[12:58] <puff> Evening.
[12:58] <jwtodd> for a new (newegg.com) build to only have mucked up w/ the sound card i guess i'm cool w/ it all :)
[12:58] <cypherdelic> adaptr: selected disk not found, maybe i need to mount?!
[12:59] <shatrat> jwtodd, great! if you need to adjust anything just use "alsamixer" in terminal.  It takes getting used to but it lets you change just about everything on the soundcard
[12:59] <SpacePuppy> anybody know of a way to manually extract file from a Nullsoft Installer self-extracting archive  ark -> doesn't seem to like it either.
[12:59] <jwtodd> shatrat. much appreciated!
[12:59] <jwtodd> i 0wn my weekends now :)
[12:59] <shatrat> jwtodd, creative has said they will release their own nvidia drivers for the x-fi, but its gonna be a few months
[12:59] <arrenlex> SpacePuppy: Run it in wine? Or maybe cabextract can handle it.
[12:59] <jwtodd> just built out a dual core x64, 4G mem and an 8800 nv gpu :)
[12:59] <adaptr> cypherdelic: no, you don't
[12:59] <jwtodd> who needs sound :)
[01:00] <cypherdelic> adaptr: it wa smissing sudo, right ;)
[01:00] <GrimSleeper> Okay I read the rootsudo stuff but havent a how to fix my problem, its like catch 22 to me.  How do I get administrative privileges back?
[01:00] <SpacePuppy> arrenlex: it hangs under wine for some reason... i'm trying to crack it open.. I'll try cabextract
[01:00] <Jguy101> any idea how to change my resolution with 1280x1024, since editing etc/X11/xorg.conf hasn't helped?
[01:00] <jwtodd> shatrat: cool! where should i lurk to keep up on that info?
[01:00] <adaptr> GrimSleeper: sudo visudo
[01:00] <arrenlex> !fixres | Jguy101
[01:00] <ubotu> Jguy101: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:00] <soundray> GrimSleeper: boot in recovery mode
[01:00] <puff> Tiger reports W--WARN-- [rootkit004w]  Chkrootkit has detected a possible rootkit installation
[01:00] <cypherdelic> adaptr: so i did mount, but it isnt bad, or is it. grub should not care about mounting then, if it writes to MBR
[01:00] <puff> I can't find a man page for tiger, how do I get more details?
[01:01] <SpacePuppy> arrenlex: nope.. oh well.
[01:01] <adaptr> cypherdelic: are you finally done ? grub takes perhaps 10 seconds to fix tis, and you've been talking aBout it for half an hour...
[01:01] <Borat> Hey, does anyone know where i can find the FONTS Swis721 or Luxi Sans????  Let me try...
[01:02] <ivx> mumrah, that is it doing
[01:02] <cypherdelic> adapt: WOHOO thanks!!!!
[01:02] <soundray> Borat: too bad you can't behave yourself. I would have had an answer for you
[01:03] <ivx> mumrah, what is it doing
[01:03] <cypherdelic> adapt: im putting usage of grub in my head
[01:03] <adaptr> cypherdelic: perseverence will get you there in the end...
[01:03] <riotkittie> Arrrgh.
[01:03] <pcieasd> need help with pptp on x86_64
[01:03] <mumrah> ivx: in general, it works fine. but if i run an app like wireshark, or airodump, it can no longer connect to anything
[01:03] <cypherdelic> perseverance?
[01:03] <adaptr> cypherdelic: that's the rub - you only need it once every year or so
[01:03] <mumrah> but it can still see the networks
[01:03] <jwtodd> shatrat: where would u recommend i look too to track the sb card support?
[01:03] <mumrah> i've tried /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:03] <shatrat> jwtodd, not really sure where to look.  forums? http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&message.id=31220
[01:03] <ivx> mumrah, oh sorry i dont' knwo anything thing about that, google perhaps
[01:04] <mumrah> ivx: ok, thanks
[01:04] <riotkittie> this is driving me insaaaaaaaaane.
[01:04] <jwtodd> will do.thx. wife'ski is happy (er) now that i perhaps didn't waste my $ :)
[01:04] <cypherdelic> adaptr: yes, i did the same thing few month ago, im sry, im f-noob , hehe
[01:04] <adaptr> mumrah: if the module freaks out, restarting networking won't do much
[01:04] <livingdaylight_> can someone tell me how to unzip a zip file?
[01:04] <adaptr> mumrah: try un- and re-loading them
[01:04] <cypherdelic> adaptr: thanks again
[01:04] <Borat> soundray, sorry mate,
[01:04] <adaptr> !zip | livingdaylight_
[01:04] <ubotu> livingdaylight_: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[01:04] <arrenlex> livingdaylight_: unzip <file>
[01:05] <cypherdelic_> so
[01:05] <nerdzyboy> Could anyone help me instal rt400 drivers (ralink wifi drivers) for ubuntu with kernel version 2.6.15-28-686?
[01:05] <pcieasd> !pptp
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pptp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <arrenlex> SpacePuppy: Is the file available on the internet? Let me try...
[01:05] <soundray> !info ttf-xfree86-nonfree > Borat
[01:05] <nerdzyboy> I can't get my wifi card to work properly...
[01:06] <adaptr> cypherdelic_: booted up now ? :)
[01:06] <cypherdelic_> yes, im back on my notebook
[01:06] <Borat> soundray, thanks mate
[01:06] <mumrah> adaptr: how do i do that
[01:06] <PiNE> i am searching for a GUI way to convert .doc/.odt files to .pdf. does anyone what i should use?
[01:07] <adaptr> mumrah: man rmmod, man lsmod
[01:07] <jrib> PiNE: openoffice
[01:07] <arrenlex> PiNE: Openoffice.org writer =P
[01:07] <soundray> PiNE: OpenOffice
[01:07] <adaptr> PiNE: oo.o, obviously
[01:07] <ofer> 10135787
[01:07] <ofer> opes
[01:07] <adaptr> indeed
[01:07] <^phillip> PiNE, you could upload to Google Docs and then save as.
[01:07] <adaptr> ^phillip: but only if you don't care what happens to it afterwards :)
[01:08] <PiNE> i didn't see it as an option in oo.o is it a plugin or did i miss it?
[01:08] <jrib> PiNE: file > export  iirc
[01:08] <^phillip> I've moved to Ubuntu today after 11 years of Windows.
[01:08] <pcieasd> have a depenency problem when trying to install pptpconfig on an amd64 system.  "Depends: php-pcntl (>= 4.3.7) but it is not installable"
[01:08] <PiNE> jrib, thanks i just found it too.
[01:08] <kaje1> can someone tell me why my .bash_profile script isn't being called in ubuntu?
[01:09] <sonduk> exit
[01:09] <adaptr> kaje1: because nothing is sourcing it ?
[01:09] <^phillip> :P
[01:09] <jrib> kaje1: when do you expect it to be called?
[01:09] <kaje1> when I log in
[01:09] <jrib> kaje1: log in where?
[01:09] <sethk> kaje1, .bash_profile is called for a login shell, .bashrc for a non-login shell.
[01:09] <kaje1> a virtual console or gdm
[01:09] <arrenlex> PiNE: http://arrenlex.ls.la/screenshots/28596.png
[01:10] <sethk> kaje1, with X, there is only one login shell, the initial one.  so if you change .bash_profile, you have to log out of X and log back in before the change is effective
[01:10] <arrenlex> PiNE: http://arrenlex.ls.la/screenshots/26295.png
[01:10] <adaptr> kaje1: also, it is *not a script*
[01:10] <jrib> kaje1: it should be getting source if you log in at tty1 though
[01:10] <wuilliam> Hi, im bad whit the english!! need help! my grub doesnt RUN, in the 1st partition i have windows, later i installed ubuntu 6.10 (64bit) but the grub dont shows, load windows inmediatly
[01:10] <riotkittie> How would I go about using my internal HD to boot a Dapper install on a nonbootable external drive?
[01:10] <ernix> hello
[01:10] <kaje1> why do you say it is not a script? It is just a bash script
[01:10] <sethk> riotkittie, install grub on the internal, and have it point to the root file system on the external
[01:11] <mumrah> adaptr: once i bring down ipw, how to i reload it?
[01:11] <jrib> kaje1: anyway, one solution is to source it in your ~/.xprofile
[01:11] <sethk> kaje1, no, it is _sourced_, _not_ executed, which is _very_ different
[01:11] <kaje1> sethk: I did log out and back in and it didn't run my new .bash_profile
[01:11] <adaptr> kaje1: erm.. a script by definition has an execution line
[01:11] <adaptr> mumrah: ipw being what ?
[01:11] <soundray> !grub | wuilliam, recover grub as if Windows had overwritten it:
[01:11] <ubotu> wuilliam, recover grub as if Windows had overwritten it:: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:11] <mumrah> adaptr: the wifi module, right?
[01:12] <adaptr> mumrah: no clue, I dont; have it
[01:12] <riotkittie> sethk: is it really that simple? I'm not going to need a kernel or anything on my internal hd?
[01:12] <adaptr> riotkittie: as long as grub can find a kernel, that's enough
[01:12] <kaje1> oh, a #!/bin/sh makes it a script?
[01:12] <sethk> riotkittie, no, you get around that by using an initramfs
[01:12] <adaptr> kaje1: erm, yes
[01:12] <dreamerdude> you can pipe things to a bot on here?
[01:12] <riotkittie> sethk: you are a saint. i have been trying to get an answer to that question forever :P thank you!
[01:12] <arrenlex> kaje1: Yes
[01:12] <arrenlex> !hi | dreamerdude
[01:12] <ubotu> dreamerdude: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:13] <kaje1> so .xprofile is called when I login to X?
[01:13] <dreamerdude> lmao, nice
[01:13] <adaptr> kaje1: no such thing AFAIK
[01:13] <puff> Anybody familiar with tiger and/or chkrootkit?
[01:13] <jrib> kaje1: yes, it should be
[01:13] <arrenlex> !ubotu > dreamerdude
[01:13] <adaptr> kaje1: there is .xinitrc
[01:13] <nerdzyboy> Could anyone help me instal rt400 drivers (ralink wifi drivers) for ubuntu with kernel version 2.6.15-28-686?
[01:14] <kaje1> that doesn't exist, do I need to create it?
[01:14] <jrib> kaje1: yes
[01:14] <^phillip> Anyone know why "System->Administration->Disks" does not exist on my fresh install of 6.10 when the docs say it should be there? https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch10s02.html
[01:14] <kaje1> k, thanks guys
[01:14] <kaje1> should .xinitrc be a script or (what do you call the type without an execution line?)
[01:15] <jrib> kaje1: .xprofile gets sourced, you don't need the #! line
[01:15] <kaje1> ok, thanks
[01:15] <adaptr> kaje1: it is a Run Control file (rc) - same as bashrc, and it contains strraight commands that will be executed in the context of the X session
[01:15] <adaptr> jrib: .xprofile ? never heard of that
[01:16] <sethk> kaje1, .xinitrc is generally a script.  there is a global one at /etc/X11/init/xinitrc (no dot)
[01:16] <adaptr> never seen it, neither
[01:16] <dejx> Could anybody please tell me how to connect to crypted wireless network on xubuntu (latest), encryption is wpa
[01:16] <sethk> adaptr, jrib .xprofile is a new one on me also.
[01:16] <wuilliam> ubotu: look, i installed windows 1st. and ubuntu i installed later, first was windows, i dont know why overwrite my grub.
[01:17] <adaptr> jrib: you'd better be verra sure :)
[01:17] <adaptr> wuilliam: ubotu is a bot, he won;'t converse intelligently (yet)
[01:17] <Flannel> wuilliam: that's alright.  You'll still need o reinstall grub, follow that first link for instructions
[01:17] <jwl007> when is feisty due out?
[01:17] <Flannel> jwl007: in april
[01:18] <mike234> is there any good reason to run 64bit version?
[01:18] <wuilliam> OMG im feeling soooo baaaaad, a bot helping me OMG
[01:18] <HymnToLife> the 18th, if everything goes well
[01:18] <jrib> adaptr, sethk: heh it's what I use.  I found it getting sourced in one of the gdm files once
[01:18] <wuilliam> im a sh!t
[01:18] <jwl007> thanks :)
[01:18] <Flannel> HymnToLife: 19th is what wiki says
[01:18] <sethk> mike234, generally, no
[01:18] <HymnToLife> oh, my mistake
[01:18] <soundray> wuilliam: I know you installed Ubuntu second. Anyway, to repair the system, follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:18] <sethk> jrib, you can of course source any file of any arbitrary name, but it doesn't happen under the covers unless it's a well known name
[01:18] <mike234> ok and is there an i686 version or only i386?
[01:18] <adaptr> jrib: ah, so gdm exclusive - bad, bad idea for an X global file...
[01:18] <Gerry_W> How would I create a separate partition for /media now that ubuntu is already installed? GParted (inside the ubuntu livecd) does not assign partitions to directories.
[01:19] <HymnToLife> separate partition for /media ?
[01:19] <Flannel> mike234: 386 version is for 686
[01:19] <adaptr> Gerry_W: no, you would be th eone to do that, as it would have to guess, which it won't (and can't)
[01:19] <HymnToLife> what's the use of it ?
[01:19] <jrib> adaptr: true, I always assumed it would get sourced otherwise but never verified that
[01:19] <adaptr> HymnToLife: who cares >? it's what he wants
[01:19] <Gerry_W> HymnToLife: it's not big enough to hold an iso of a dvd
[01:19] <Gerry_W> I'd like to enlarge it
[01:20] <lgc> Hi! How do I reset the sound server on my Dapper?
[01:20] <soundray> Gerry_W: do not /media for that
[01:20] <HymnToLife> Gerry_W, normally, you don't store anything in /media
[01:20] <adaptr> Gerry_W: it's *not* a partition now, so there is nothing to enlarge.. get you definitions straight first
[01:20] <adaptr> *your, even
[01:20] <adaptr> Gerry_W: regardless, what he said ^^^
[01:21] <Gerry_W> adaptr:well, I was thinking, since you can set partitions for /media/sd2 or whatever in the installation, that's what it meant
[01:21] <lgc> Flannel, do you know?
[01:21] <Gerry_W> adaptr:obviously, I w as wrong
[01:21] <adaptr> Gerry_W: if you want to have extra partitions, of course you'll have to make them first
[01:22] <mastermixer> hey everyone, i wanted to know the name of the font shown in this screenshot. it would be great if anyone could please tell me it's name or the name of anything really similar to it. http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=36386&file1=36386-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=BrushedC
[01:22] <dejx> could anybody please told me how do i connect to crypted wireless network on xubuntu (latest), encryption is wpa
[01:22] <dejx> please
[01:22] <Gerry_W> adaptr:Yes. I made one for the previous reason. But I guess it's not needed now. It's just that when I try to mount it in a folder from /home it won't work
[01:23] <Gerry_W> adaptr: it gives me an error
[01:23] <Gerry_W> adaptr: e/g /home/FolderName
[01:23] <adaptr> Gerry_W: you have to be root
[01:23] <Gerry_W> adaptr: I believe I sudo'd it
[01:23] <Gerry_W> adaptr: let me try again.
[01:23] <adaptr> what was the error ?
[01:24] <Gerry_W> adaptr:lemme check.
[01:24] <sethk> Gerry_W, the mount point must already exist.  it's simply a directory, which you create with mkdir (if it isn't already present)
[01:24] <lgc> Flannel, you mad at me?
[01:24] <godtvisken> anyone know any good music servers?
[01:25] <mackinac> problem - I cannot escape the getty terminal by ctrl-alt-F7
[01:25] <Ulti2001> does anyone know why i keep getting the blue screen of death everytime i try to use the 1.0.9 build of the nvidia-glx drivers
[01:25] <BelialMkII> Is there any known issues with the ubuntu liveCD not booting on certain laptops, im putting Ubuntu on a Fijitsu Siemans laptop, and it refuses to check the CD for defects or boot in the normal or safe graphics mode
[01:25] <Gerry_W> sethk: Hmmm. I think I assumed it would mount it somewhere automatically, like daemontools does. Ugh. I'm feeling stupid :).
[01:26] <Flannel> lgc: what?
[01:26] <sethk> Gerry_W, daemontools, IIRC, uses /service, which is typically a sym link, but it must already exist; daemontools doesn't create mount points either.
[01:26] <adaptr> Gerry_W: with reason :)
[01:26] <dejx> do i need to install wpa_supplicant if i want connect to wpa wlan ?
[01:26] <lgc> Flannel, you didn't answer...
[01:26] <adaptr> sethk: anh daemon could auto-create mount points at will , obvioulsy
[01:26] <Flannel> lgc: I was detached.  But, answer about sound?  I have no idea.
[01:27] <lgc> Flannel, I was asking if you know how to reset my sound server.
[01:27] <Flannel> !sound | lgc
[01:27] <ubotu> lgc: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:27] <sethk> adaptr, yes, but daemontools is a specific software package, doesn't refer to an arbitrary daemon
[01:27] <dejx> do i need to install wpa_supplicant if i want connect to wpa wlan ?
[01:27] <Gerry_W> sethk: Well, there you go again, ruining my self-confidence. :D
[01:27] <Gerry_W> adaptr: thanks for the informative remark. :)
[01:27] <adaptr> sethk: I assume it is one itself
[01:28] <adaptr> Gerry_W: come now, what's the status ?
[01:28] <lgc> Flannel, it's the thing about Flash. It was doing fine after I upgraded to Version 9, but when I started Gaim I lost the sound of the YouTube stream.
[01:28] <Gerry_W> adaptr: give me a sec. I'll try to sort things out.
[01:28] <sethk> adaptr, it uses the init subsystem, doesn't necessarily run its own daemon
[01:29] <Flannel> lgc: no idea.  I have no sound on my box
[01:29] <adaptr> sethk: ah, okay - I never used it, I'll just use loopmount myself, but can daemontools also handle cue/bin/nrg/mds ?
[01:29] <lgc> Flannel, Oh, I forgot you like barebones installations...:).
[01:29] <adaptr> *natively ?
[01:29] <sethk> adaptr, I've never tried; my guess is no
[01:29] <adaptr> sethk: then it's no easier than loopmounting :)
[01:30] <sethk> adaptr, that's a fair statement.  I wasn't pushing it, just explaining something about it.
[01:30] <dejx> how do i apt-get some file if i want to install package from disc, spec path
[01:30] <adaptr> sethk: no problem, of course - I just didn;t know it even existed on Linux - couldn't see why it should
[01:30] <dejx> apt-get install .. /path/file.deb
[01:30] <Flannel> dejx: don't apt-get it, use dpkg -i
[01:30] <dejx> thanks
[01:31] <adaptr> dejx: if it's not in a configured repo, you can't use apt
[01:31] <sethk> adaptr, daemontools is a replacement for inetd/xinetd, with somewhat better security
[01:31] <adaptr> sethk: hah, that explains much - Gerry_Wwas referring to the *Windows* program, which mounts ISO images...
[01:32] <jrib> adaptr, sethk: fwiw .xinitrc only seems to get sourced for startx, not with gdm.  And I've also found that .xsession exists as another option....
[01:32] <adaptr> jrib: yes, xsession is what a user uses, xinitrc is for the whole server - nothing new there
[01:32] <adaptr> jrib: but i can count the number of people here who share their ubuntu with multiple users on the fingers of one finger
[01:33] <adaptr> jrib: so it hardly matters
[01:33] <Zilus> anyone with a BCM4328 on a DELL b130?
[01:33] <Gerry_W> adaptr: could you clarify this, por favor? In the command "sudo mount file.iso /media/iso/ -t iso9660 -o loop," this will mount the iso in /media/iso, correct? And this will take up space in /media, correct? And how does it know where the iso is located (does it have to be placed on the desktop)? Yes, of course I was referring to the Windows program. I'm a recent convert to Ubuntu. :D
[01:33] <adaptr> Gerry_W: no, it will not take up any space
[01:33] <Gerry_W> adaptr: ah. good. therein lay my misconception.
[01:33] <bleanna_unux> How do I find the IRQ & IO of a device?
[01:33] <FreakShowTulsa> i am having a problem with ubuntu 6.10 32bit im trying to install it and when i do it says <0> Kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init.
[01:33] <adaptr> Gerry_W: and you have to ipoint to the ISO file, nothing on Linux will *guess* for you
[01:34] <Gerry_W> adaptr: I suspected as much.
[01:34] <Flannel> Gerry_W: and, the original 'file.iso' should be replaced with the path to the iso file, that command assumed it was in your current directory
[01:34] <Zilus> bleanna_unux:  lshw -businfo
[01:34] <Gerry_W> adaptr, Flannel: yeah, I just realized that. Give me a break. I've only been at it a week. :D
[01:35] <FreakShowTulsa> can anyone help me?
[01:35] <adaptr> Gerry_W: mount -t iso9660  (or ufs) -o loop /path/and/file.name /mount/point <- there is no other way, no shortcut, no better way
[01:35] <Gerry_W> adaptr: yup
[01:35] <FreakShowTulsa> i am having a problem with ubuntu 6.10 32bit im trying to install it and when i do it says <0> Kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init.
[01:35] <adaptr> Gerry_W: putting options before arguments is good practice in Linux, and often required, as well - so get used to it now :)
[01:35] <adaptr> FreakShowTulsa: *where*
[01:36] <CrakeHunter> hello, id like to unrar a file, but it neither "xarchive" nor "archive manager" can read them
[01:36] <adaptr> CrakeHunter: unrar, install it
[01:36] <CrakeHunter> should i install s.th.?
[01:36] <FreakShowTulsa> what do you mean by that adaptr?
[01:36] <Zilus>  CrakeHunter  aptitude intsall unrar
[01:36] <CrakeHunter> okay thanks
[01:36] <adaptr> FreakShowTulsa: what I think it exemplifies without firther elucidation: *when* do you get the panic ?
[01:36] <adaptr> bleh, need ot sleep
[01:36] <bleanna_unux> Zilus: i get "PCI@02:05.0" which is the IRQ & the IO?
[01:37] <Gerry_W> adaptr: ok, thanks
[01:37] <livingdaylight_> does ubuntu come with an ftp client by default?
[01:37] <jonathan_> is there a way i can setup webbased email access in evolution
[01:37] <FreakShowTulsa> i get the error after i tell it to "start or install ubuntu"
[01:37] <jonathan_> living u have to download anything u want on it ftp included
[01:37] <FreakShowTulsa> i says loading kernel
[01:37] <jwl007> is there a deb package for java sdk?
[01:38] <livingdaylight_> jonathan_, sorry?
[01:38] <jwl007> nm
[01:38] <FreakShowTulsa> then it says my error i havnt even got ubuntu installed
[01:38] <lineman60> ok i am running ndiswrapper,  iwlist scan shows the essid, it shows 0/100 quauity and it attempts to connect, failing i have tryed 3 dirffent windows dirvers
[01:38] <livingdaylight_> jonathan_, can you recommend me a ftp client ?
[01:38] <|Jason8|> Hey everyone, I need some help with XMMS.  Where can I find plugins?  And does it support global hotkeys?
[01:38] <SirBob1701> Are there any repositories I have to add to install the latest version of php5?
[01:38] <adaptr> FreakShowTulsa: what hardware ? core 2 duo, by any chance ?
[01:39] <Zilus> livingdaylight_: gftp but I think its not installed
[01:39] <livingdaylight_> can someone help me out with ftp?
[01:39] <lineman60> Network manager shows full stregth
[01:39] <Zilus> try it with apt
[01:39] <livingdaylight_> Zilus, thx
[01:39] <imbecile_> anyone have NX free edition running? I was wondering how to configure it
[01:39] <livingdaylight_> Zilus, is it gui?
[01:39] <jonathan_> zilus doesnt it depend on whether or not he is using ubuntu or kubuntu
[01:39] <FreakShowTulsa> nope i have a intel p4 2.66ghz processor
[01:39] <jonathan_> is there a way i can access my web based email in evolution
[01:39] <stanley> I installed ubuntu as the only operating system on a computer I have. I want to put window's back on it for program compatability issues. When I put the Windows disc in and reboot, it does not give me the option to boot to disc. Do I have to change anything in the grub settings ?
[01:39] <Zilus> livingdaylight_: yes
[01:39] <adaptr> FreakShowTulsa: try booting the cd with "noapic nolapic" at the end of the kernel line
[01:39] <livingdaylight_> jonathaN, i'm using ubuntu, which is why i'm in the #ubunt uchannel but thx for getting back to me. and besides it shouldn't matter
[01:40] <FreakShowTulsa> an msi board nvidia fx 5200 agp 128mb
[01:40] <Dr_willis> jonathan_,  depends on the web based email company/settings
[01:40] <FreakShowTulsa> how do i do that?
[01:40] <jonathan_> like hotmail or gmail for instance dr
[01:40] <Gerry_W> jonathan: just search google for instructions.
[01:40] <FreakShowTulsa> sorry i dont know alot about this stuff
[01:40] <Gerry_W> jonathan: that's what I did.
[01:40] <jonathan_> ok gerry
[01:40] <lineman60> stanly if you hit gub you got to far
[01:40] <kitche> imbecile_: might help you http://biohackery.com/node/38
[01:40] <lineman60> you want to check the BIOS
[01:40] <adaptr> FreakShowTulsa: when the menu appears, press "e'; to edit the install option, find the kernel line, press "e" again, add the words, press enter, press "b" to boot
[01:40] <GMWeezel> Is there an easier way to makes themes other than editing the text files?
[01:41] <stanley> yea the Bios is set to boot from CD first
[01:41] <FreakShowTulsa> Ok thx
[01:41] <imbecile_> kitche,  tyvm
[01:41] <FreakShowTulsa> let me try that
[01:41] <lineman60> ok, and it is a bootable cd?
[01:41] <stanley> and there hasn't been any settings changed in the BIOS since I installed linux, which required me to boot from CD
[01:41] <stanley> yep
[01:42] <Zilus> anyone with bcm43xx working?
[01:42] <adaptr> stanley: if the windows CD does not give you the option to boot from it, it may not be bootable
[01:42] <jonathan_> mine is zilus
[01:42] <stanley> It's the same cd i've been using to format for years
[01:42] <lineman60> Zilus, depends on what you mean by working
[01:42] <jonathan_> i can send ya the log that i kept
[01:42] <stanley> it works fine in my other computers, just not that one
[01:42] <jonathan_> it took a friend of mine an hr to get my built in wifi to work
[01:42] <stanley> just wasn't sure if it was a grub setting or not
[01:42] <lineman60> jonathan can i get the log too
[01:43] <Zilus> jonathaN: I use the ndiswrapper ,ethod and the bcm43xx-fwcutter
[01:43] <Zilus> and none seems to make this card to work
[01:43] <jonathan_> zilus ill send ya the log file with all the steps i did
[01:43] <lineman60> what is you card unmber
[01:43] <Zilus> jonathaN: thanks
[01:43] <jonathan_> no prob
[01:43] <corevette> i just installed feisty fawn...what is the difference between this and edgy?
[01:43] <Zilus> i got a bcm4318
[01:43] <scarpitch> Why won'
[01:43] <shadowhywind> does anyone know how to zip using ark (to a tar.gz ) with a password?
[01:44] <jonathan_> funnily enough his comp is older than mine and im using the drivers that worked on his comp
[01:44] <jonathan_> u want me to send his drivers
[01:44] <scarpitch> why won't Amarok play mp3-files?? Doesnt it supoprt it???
[01:44] <lineman60> jonathan, can you email me the logs too<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:44] <Zilus> jonathaN: please
[01:44] <jonathan_> ya it does scar
[01:44] <Gerry_W> corevette: feisty fawn has not been released yet. It' not all that stable.
[01:44] <jonathan_> did u accept transfer of the log
[01:44] <scarpitch> jonathan_, : hmm.. strange..
[01:44] <shadowhywind> scarpitch there is a package you have to download to support mp3s in amaork
[01:44] <Dr_willis> shadowhywind,  tar.gz dose not support password encryption of the archive.. you could encrypt the .tar then compress it i guess...
[01:45] <scarpitch> shadowhywind, : ah! Thanx..
[01:45] <t35t0r> is there a cat /etc/redhat_release or something similar for ubuntu ?
[01:45] <jonathan_> it worked for me and i was using it in gnome
[01:45] <t35t0r> how do i figure out what version of ubuntu is running on a box?
[01:45] <livingdaylight_> does someone know how to setup and configure gftp?
[01:45] <jonathan_> zilus accept them dude
[01:45] <Dr_willis> !info gftp
[01:45] <ubotu> gftp: X/GTK+ FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.18-14ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 44 kB, installed size 76 kB
[01:45] <Gerry_W> t35t0r: system-->about
[01:45] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight_,  install it.. run it?
[01:45] <livingdaylight_> Zilus, any chance?
[01:46] <livingdaylight_> Dr_willis, run it, indeed. I mean to configure it to run it
[01:46] <lineman60> : Zilus, 4306
[01:46] <livingdaylight_> Dr_willis, i've insstalled it. now need to configure it
[01:46] <t35t0r> Gerry_W, wth is that do ubuntu users not know what a command line is ?
[01:46] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight_,  huh?  its a ftp client.. whats to configure..
[01:47] <livingdaylight_> Dr_willis, ports? name? ehr..dunno stuff like that
[01:47] <Zilus> lineman60 sorry didnt catch that... ?
[01:47] <Gerry_W> t35t0r: or you could click twice.
[01:47] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight_,  look in the menus?  the ports and stuff depend on the ftp server you want to connect to.
[01:47] <t35t0r> i can't click anything you insensitive clod ..i'm in a cli
[01:48] <FreakShowTulsa> adaptr do you mean this for what version of ubuntu i tried e thing and it didnt do anything im trying to install 6.10 ubuntu
[01:48] <kaje1> I tried calling .bash_profile from .xinitrc and .xprofile and neither worked... I restarted X with ctrl-alt-back...
[01:48] <t35t0r> is there a program i can open that would give me that?
[01:48] <t35t0r> perhaps gedit?
[01:48] <kaje1> any other ideas?
[01:48] <Gerry_W> t35t0r: hmmm
[01:48] <jrib> kaje1: how did you try to call them
[01:48] <KrAsHeR> hey folks, anyone knows if Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake has any issues with ReiserFS?
[01:48] <jrib> s/them/it
[01:48] <Gerry_W> t35t0r: I'll look it up for ya.
[01:48] <ingrix> I have a quick question.  I accidentally removed the Gaim icon from my panel, and I can't get it back.  Does anyone know what I should do?
[01:48] <kaje1> just had a single line in the file: . ~/.bash_profile
[01:48] <jonathan_> zilus
[01:49] <freakshow> adaptr?
[01:49] <Dr_willis> hmm.. gftp has a lot of neat features
[01:49] <Gerry_W> t35t0r: cat/etc/issue
[01:49] <Zilus> jonathan_: i cant
[01:49] <t35t0r> lsb_release -a
[01:49] <t35t0r> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2101657
[01:49] <Zilus> dont know how :(
[01:49] <jonathan_> talk to me in pm dude
[01:49] <t35t0r> ok thanx
[01:49] <Gerry_W> t35t0r: no problem
[01:49] <digitone>  using ubuntu 6.10..    network card trying to get to work with ndiswrapper is: wusb54gsc..  I get ndiswrapper to find the drivers and it says hardware is present..  except when i go to modprobe ndiswrapper, I get a FATAL error stating Module ndiswrapper not found.
[01:49] <Zilus> jonathan_: I already did that,
[01:50] <Flannel> jonathan_: you can't query, you're not registered
[01:50] <digitone> been dealing with this for 3 days..  did my research with no luck or nothing that worked.. please help
[01:50] <jonathan_> what u mean not registered
[01:50] <jonathan_> and how do i register
[01:50] <royel> ingrix: you can right click on the panel an chose > Add to Panel, then either search the listed choices or click on the top left button "Application Launcher" you should be able to locate it from there
[01:50] <Flannel> !register | jonathan_
[01:50] <ubotu> jonathan_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:50] <freakshow> i am having a problem with ubuntu 6.10 32bit im trying to install it and when i do it says <0> Kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init. can anyone help me
[01:50] <roostishaw> how do I apply a .patch file?
[01:50] <roostishaw> its a kernel patch
[01:50] <Flannel> roostishaw: "patch" is the command
[01:51] <jrib> kaje1: how are you testing whether or not ir worked?
[01:51] <roostishaw> heh
[01:51] <roostishaw> ok
[01:51] <kaje1> hmm, just found a post on the web that says I need to do .xsession... brb testing that one
[01:51] <roostishaw> thanks Flannel
[01:51] <Zilus> jonathan_: can u see the messages I wrote in pm?
[01:51] <jonathan_> ya i can
[01:51] <jonathan_> can u c the ones i write
[01:51] <kaje1> jrib: my .bash_profile sets up some aliases... I am starting a terminal and typing "alias" and they aren't there....
[01:51] <kaje1> brb
[01:52] <ingrix> Royel: Yes, I have tried that.  It just launches Gaim though.  I am talking about the icon that just puts the whole application in the panel and keeps it running
[01:52] <Zilus> jonathan_: in pm windows nope :(
[01:52] <digitone> using ubuntu 6.10..    network card trying to get to work with ndiswrapper is: wusb54gsc..  I get ndiswrapper to find the drivers and it says hardware is present..  except when i go to modprobe ndiswrapper, I get a FATAL error stating Module ndiswrapper not found.
[01:52] <KrAsHeR> hey folks, anyone knows if Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake has any issues with ReiserFS?
[01:52] <jonathan_> its saying im already registered
[01:53] <Zilus> jonathan_: maybe its anither user who registered that nickname
[01:53] <jonathan_> ok
[01:53] <jonathan_> brb zilus
[01:53] <Zilus> jonathan_ okas
[01:53] <Ulti2001> hey guys
[01:53] <Ulti2001> i need some help with something
[01:53] <royel> ingrix: I'm confused to be completely honest, I'm not sure your being completely clear what is missing
[01:53] <freakshow> can anyone help me? plz
[01:53] <shadowhywind> does anyone know how to password protect a tar.gz
[01:54] <ingrix> Royel: I apologize.  I was afraid I wasn't being clear.  Are you familiar with Gaim?
[01:54] <royel> ingrix: yes
[01:54] <jonathan_> hey
[01:54] <royel> ingrix: oh wait, you minimized the app an now dont have a taskbar icon to bring the window focus back?
[01:55] <freakshow> i am having a problem with ubuntu 6.10 32bit im trying to install it and when i do it says <0> Kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init. can anyone help me
[01:55] <jonathan_> zilus
[01:55] <ingrix> Royel: No, it kills Gaim completely now.
[01:55] <jonathan_> what channel is this
[01:55] <craigbass1976> ok guys and gals, let me knwo if this question is inappropriate for #ubuntu...  I'm going on a gig tomorow.  THere's no broadband.  There aren't any external modems.  I don't want to try and get ubuntu to work with a winmodem.  I need to install samba and would like to just apt-get install right off the internet.  Has anyone ever dialed up with a windows ME machine and forwarded it to a network?  The other choices are doin
[01:55] <craigbass1976> g it with 95 or 98.
[01:55] <ingrix> Royel: I rather liked that feature, but I can't figure out how to get it back
[01:55] <richard_> I'm trying to find out why this laptop can connect via ssh to my suse server, when I can from all other networks
[01:55] <richard_> the laptop is behind a router and a firewall, which I've been told should have no impact...
[01:55] <Zilus> jonathan_: sup?
[01:56] <rupertskitchen> hi you there
[01:56] <XiXaQ> craigbass1976, I didn't understand that.
[01:56] <Zilus> jonathan_: sup?
[01:56] <freakshow> jonanthan_ will you help me?
[01:56] <rupertskitchen> is hier ochn deutschi any germs in here
[01:56] <jrib> !de | rupertskitchen
[01:56] <ubotu> rupertskitchen: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:56] <XiXaQ> rupertskitchen, try #ubuntu-de
[01:56] <jonathan_> zilus
[01:56] <SirBob1701> can anyone tell me how to compile php with the pdo object? lol
[01:57] <rupertskitchen> im absolutely new to linux, wow, is this only support in here?
[01:57] <Zilus> jonathan_:  whats up?
[01:57] <ingrix> Royel: I hope this doesn't confuse you further: normally if you have the "System Tray" plugin activated for Gaim, when you click the X button on the Buddy List it will close the window, but Gaim will still be running, and the icon lets you get it back up.  Now when I click the X, it closes Gaim
[01:57] <Zilus> rupertskitchen: we try to
[01:57] <jonathan_> how can i change my nic without havin to disconnect from channel
[01:57] <craigbass1976> XiXaQ, It's more of a windows question, but I wondered if anyone in here had run into it.  There's an ME box with dialup access and I want to know if it's possible to forward that connection to a network containing an ubuntu box.
[01:57] <XiXaQ> rupertskitchen, this is a support channel, yes. Just normal chat is done in #Ubuntu-offtopic
[01:57] <Zilus> jonathan_: / nick blah
[01:57] <SirBob1701> rupertskitchen: www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:57] <freakshow> why doesnt anybody listen and help me this is a support channel am i wrong?
[01:57] <Zilus> withiout the space between / and nick
[01:58] <jonathan_> nothing is happening zilus
[01:58] <computermc> I just installed (using synaptic) kde. Which pulled down a lot of other files with it. After all that I decide I like gnome better and want to remove all of the kde stuff. How do that?
[01:58] <XiXaQ> craigbass1976, you mean connection sharing? It is. But you're right, it's a windows question.
[01:58] <jonathan_> i tried that
[01:58] <rupertskitchen> thanx... so... i think install routines in linux are very hard to do sometimes
[01:58] <mindstate> lol freakshow just ask your question
[01:58] <hossasaur> hello, for some reason all of the folders i create from the terminal are read-only.  how do i make them read/write using mkdir? moreover, how do i change them to read/write now from the terminal?
[01:58] <Zilus> jonathan_: look
[01:58] <freakshow> i have many times lol
[01:58] <jrib> freakshow: no one may know the answer to your question
[01:58] <eagles051387> there we go zilus
[01:58] <tempubun> freakshow: don't whine, ask your question
[01:58] <eagles051387> i got it zilus
[01:58] <unop> !patience | freakshow
[01:58] <craigbass1976> freakshow, hang in there, someone will answer.  You might try googling for your panic message while you wait.
[01:58] <ubotu> freakshow: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:58] <eagles051387> i got it dude
[01:58] <eagles051387> not to register it
[01:58] <Dr_willis> freakshow,  or it may be your cd disk is bad.
[01:58] <Zilus> eagles051387: ok
[01:58] <SirBob1701> ?
[01:58] <freakshow> i am having a problem with ubuntu 6.10 32bit im trying to install it and when i do it says <0> Kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init.
[01:58] <rupertskitchen> the what?
[01:59] <jdiggidy> freakshow: you're running from the live cd?
[01:59] <freakshow> no
[01:59] <eagles051387> woot it is registered
[01:59] <Zilus> eagles051387: try to pm me?
[01:59] <imbecile_> can someone tell me where NX connection wizard should be? :/
[01:59] <jdiggidy> freakshow: how are you installing
[01:59] <freakshow> its a live cd yes but you can install it from the cd
[01:59] <computermc> Trying to do it in synaptic only removes the kde package not everything else.
[01:59] <eagles051387> do u c it zilus
[01:59] <rupertskitchen> ok dear dudes, like that, check out my bandsite for nice funky music, www.rupertskitchen.de... try to do it for myself, think itll work soon..
[01:59] <xtknight> hossasaur: are you using sudo to make the folders?
[01:59] <roostishaw> anyone know: how can i control the fan speed of my macbook on ubuntu? (its running way to hot)
[01:59] <hossasaur> xtknight: uhm....no
[01:59] <freakshow> i push enter on start or install ubuntu and then my error occurs
[02:00] <jdiggidy> freakshow: is that what you're trying to do when you get the kernel panick?
[02:00] <The_Rebel> where do i manage startup scripts and commands?
[02:00] <tempubun> roostishaw: stick you finger into the fan, works for my kids
[02:00] <xtknight> hossasaur: are you making the folders on a read only file system?
[02:00] <roostishaw> tempubun: tried that
[02:00] <hossasaur> xtknight: no
[02:00] <hossasaur> xtknight: rw
[02:00] <roostishaw> tempubun: now there's blood all my macbook
[02:00] <tempubun> roostishaw: haha
[02:00] <roostishaw> :/
[02:00] <freakshow> i try to start ubuntu to install then it says Kernel Panic - not syncing attempted to kill init
[02:00] <tempubun> roostishaw: are running ubuntu-ppc?
[02:00] <jdiggidy> freakshow:  I wonder if you didn't get a bad download.
[02:00] <Dr_willis> freakshow,  and where did this cd come from?
[02:00] <Gibbs> Is it possible to rebind CTRL-ALT-F1 to something else?
[02:01] <XiXaQ> The_Rebel, depends :) If you just want to start an application when you log in, you can use System > Preferences > Sessions
[02:01] <roostishaw> tempubun: no. normal. should i be?
[02:01] <xtknight> hossasaur: anything other than the usual?  just making folders on a regular file system (like an ext3 HD mounted as rw) and they are coming up RO for your user?  what is the exact permission string shown for a newly-created folder of yours?
[02:01] <tieTYT2> yesterday i could see my screensaver but today if i lock the screen the screen just turns black and a screensaver never shows up
[02:01] <freakshow> ive downloaded it 4 different times
[02:01] <tempubun> roostishaw: no, just asking
[02:01] <tieTYT2> does anyone know what could cause that?
[02:01] <freakshow> from different servers
[02:01] <kungfugoat> I'm running 6.1 and whenever I try to switch to a console (CTRL-ALT-F1) from X, my screen gets corrupted
[02:01] <jdiggidy> freakshow:  from the ubuntu mirrors?
[02:01] <hossasaur> xtknight: for instance, one of the folders was created on my desktop.  for some reason it's read-only now.
[02:01] <XiXaQ> Gibbs, System > Preferences > Keyboard shortcuts
[02:01] <freakshow> Yes
[02:01] <ingrix> Royel: thank you for your help.  It's much appreciated
[02:01] <tempubun> you said a macbook, must be one of them new ones eh? with the intel chip
[02:01] <kungfugoat> what gives?
[02:01] <The_Rebel> when i add commands to sessions it doesnt work.. mostly due to needing root
[02:01] <xtknight> hossasaur: how did you create that desktop folder?
[02:01] <jdiggidy> freakshow:  have you tried a different disk?
[02:01] <shorty114> tempubun, all macbooks have intel...
[02:01] <roostishaw> tempubun: ok... do you know how to control it by chance?
[02:01] <hossasaur> xtknight: i don't remember off hand, but i think from the terminal using "mkdir xxx"
[02:02] <kungfugoat> where's the inittab file?
[02:02] <tempubun> shorty114: k, ta, wouldn't know, only have iStuff
[02:02] <freakshow> i dont have a a 6.10 disk i downloaded it and burnt it to an .iso file then i boot to cd
[02:02] <xtknight> hossasaur: and you're sure it wasn't 'sudo mkdir', right?
[02:02] <Gibbs> XiXaQ the bind for CTRL-ALT-F1 (or command) isn't listed there...
[02:02] <hossasaur> xtknight: it could have been
[02:02] <shorty114> tempubun, yeah, apple made it kind of confusing
[02:02] <Dr_willis> freakshow,  could try burning the cd at 1x speed..  (i hear that can help) bit ive enver had problems with the stuff
[02:02] <tempubun> roostishaw: i'll have a look
[02:02] <hossasaur> xtknight: i made the dir a few days ago
[02:02] <jdiggidy> freakshow:  right.  I meant did you try burning to a different disk?
[02:02] <xtknight> hossasaur: alright.  well, when you create folders with sudo the owner is root
[02:02] <freakshow> yes 4 different times
[02:02] <tempubun> can every slow down typing, i can't read this fast ... 8-)
[02:03] <hossasaur> xtknight: so i'd have to change ownership of the folder?
[02:03] <xtknight> hossasaur: and by default the permissions are that root has rw and others have only ro to that.
[02:03] <Dr_willis> freakshow,  also try differnet cd burning software. like 'burnatonce' - you COULD also install vmware server, and try booting the .iso files to verify they work
[02:03] <xtknight> hossasaur: no, actually
[02:03] <XiXaQ> Gibbs, does CTRL+ALT+F1 do anything special by default?
[02:03] <jdiggidy> freakshow:  4 different disks?
[02:03] <roostishaw> tempubun: cool. thanks. all I have found is this: http://www.jasonparekh.com/?page_id=9 (didnt work, obviously)
[02:03] <xtknight> hossasaur: you can keep the owner as root and then under root set the permissions to the folder so that OTHERS can read/write also
[02:03] <kungfugoat> how would I use find to search for a file in a certain directory?
[02:03] <jdiggidy> freakshow:  I'm not trying to ask the same question over and over, really.
[02:03] <hossasaur> xtknight: how do you do that? i started using linux again for the first time in 10 years just a week ago
[02:03] <freakshow> i have ubuntu 6.06 cd but i have to find it i've never had this problem before
[02:03] <xtknight> hossasaur: but you could also just change ownership to your user if you wanted.  if it's on YOUR desktop, i think the owner should be YOU
[02:03] <Gibbs> XiXaQ, yes it closes X Server and goes to the shell terminal
[02:03] <^phillip> Anyone know how to disable window animations?
[02:04] <imbecile_> can someone tell me where NX connection wizard should be? :/
[02:04] <Dr_willis> ^phillip,  i recall researching that ages ago.. and never did find a good answer.
[02:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:04] <hossasaur> xtknight: i'm the only user on the machine, just ubuntu automatically doesn't allow you to be root in the gui
[02:04] <^phillip> I'll have to do some digging.
[02:04] <jdiggidy> freakshow:  It sounds like a bad download, or a bad image, but I've never gotten a bad image from the ubuntu mirrors.
[02:04] <freakshow> yes ive tryed different burning software and ive burnt it 2 twice from my dvd burner and twice from my cd-rom burner
[02:04] <xtknight> hossasaur: to make yourself the owner: `sudo chown -R yourname folder`  (this will recursively set the owner of that specified folder to yourname).  or, you can set OTHERS so they can read/write the folder: `sudo chmod -R 777 folder`
[02:05] <freakshow> i dont see why it does this 6.06 didnt do this
[02:05] <hossasaur> xtknight: thank you
[02:05] <Blacken> Well, I managed to hose NTLDR when installing Linux next to Windows. (There were two separate Windows installs, 32-bit and 64-bit, and I overwrote the 32-bit one that had NTLDR on the hard drive...sigh). Is there a way on Linux to see drives/partitions the way boot.ini's loader would (i.e. multi(0)disk(0)...)?
[02:05] <XiXaQ> Gibbs, oh.. Sorry, I keep forgetting. I'm using NX, so some shortkeys are disabled.
[02:05] <hossasaur> xtknight: will that result in ownership of all subfolders as well?
[02:05] <Blacken> It's not as simple as hda/hdb, as one drive is SATA and the other IDE.
[02:05] <Dr_willis> freakshow,  could try the Feisty Fawn Live cd/alternative cds
[02:05] <xtknight> hossasaur: all subfolders and all files within those and those dirs and those and those..etc...everything under it
[02:06] <Dr_willis> freakshow,  but thats in testing right now.. so it may be less then reliable
[02:06] <jdiggidy> freakshow:  6.10 hasn't done this for many people, either.  Out of curiosity, is it a torrent or the full iso?
[02:06] <hossasaur> xtknight: ok, how about folders on a mounted fat partition?
[02:06] <xtknight> hossasaur: in the future just create the folders in a non root mode to have ownership default to your own user.  in other words, don't do sudo mkdir xxx or sudo -H -s; mkdir xx
[02:06] <freakshow> ok ill try it but i think i will just install 6.06 back on it
[02:06] <freakshow> the FULL iso
[02:06] <xtknight> hossasaur: what types of problems are you having on the fat partition?
[02:07] <jdiggidy> freakshow:  if you install 6.06 back on, you can sudo apt-get install dist upgrade to 6.10 and it should work fine.
[02:07] <freakshow> ok
[02:07] <hossasaur> xtknight: it's odd, the folders are all read-only, yet i can create subfolders in them
[02:07] <freakshow> ill do that lol thank you so much jdiggidy
[02:07] <jdiggidy> freakshow:  sorry, I gave the wrong command.  I think it's apt-get dist upgrade, no install.
[02:07] <freakshow> bye
[02:07] <tempubun> roostishaw: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/~eidac/software/page5/page5.html
[02:07] <Flannel> jdiggidy, freakshow, that's not the command ;)  but yeah, you can install 6.06 and upgrade easily enough
[02:07] <freakshow> ok
[02:07] <tempubun> closest thing so far
[02:08] <xtknight> hossasaur: you need to set the usermask to the inverse of what you want the permissions to be.   7777-xxxx = umask.  if you want 7777 perms (execute+write+read for all users) then your umask will be 0022
[02:08] <roostishaw> tempubun: ...
[02:08] <Flannel> jdiggidy, freakshow, update-manager is the preferred method
[02:08] <freakshow> k peace im out bye
[02:08] <roostishaw> tempubun: isn't that for os x?
[02:08] <jdiggidy> Flannel:  I realized it was the wrong command after I typed it, but still can't remember, what was it again?
[02:08] <xtknight> hossasaur: umask is set in the options for that mount point under fstab
[02:08] <Flannel> jdiggidy: gksudo update-manager -c
[02:08] <tempubun> roostishaw: is but it may be ported to linux, i'm looking
[02:08] <jdiggidy> Flannel, yeah,  that's right. Thanks for the reminder.
[02:08] <hossasaur> xtknight: i think i get you, let me check it out
[02:08] <roostishaw> tempubun: oh, ok.
[02:09] <hossasaur> xtknight: UUID=8B96-C366  /media/fat         vfat    defaults,rw,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[02:10] <xtknight> hossasaur: well right now it looks like users have very few perms
[02:10] <xtknight> hossasaur: set umask=0022 (or 022) and see what happens
[02:11] <Kervan> Hello. I am using Thunderbird to read my mails. But I have problem when I click the links, that is in mail, Konqueror opens the links. How can i open them with firefox?
[02:11] <hossasaur> xtknight: thanks, is there a way to umount/mount to test?
[02:11] <Twigman> hi Guys..
[02:11] <Twigman> Does anyone know if there is an issue with evolution in the current version of feisty?
[02:11] <xtknight> hossasaur: [{ sudo umount /dev/blkdev } or { sudo umount /mount/point }]  && sudo mount -a
[02:11] <tempubun> roostishaw: dual boot ubuntu/that other system or ubuntu 100%?
[02:11] <Twigman> My 'send / receive' button is permanently greyed out..
[02:11] <tiredbones_> When I try to play an mp4 file I get this error on totem, "You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins.".  When I try to add this plugin from syndaptic, "totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin:" . I get message from synaptic. "Depends: totem-gstreamer (=1.4.1-0ubuntu4) but 1.4.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed". What should I do?
[02:12] <Twigman> I'm ... unable to get mail :-\
[02:12] <Twigman> I've even tried killing off gconf for evo completely and removing the .evo files..
[02:12] <roostishaw> tempubun: osx and ubuntu with bootcamp
[02:12] <roostishaw> tempubun: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook <--- used that
[02:12] <tempubun> roostishaw: k
[02:12] <XiXaQ> tiredbones_, answer ok?
[02:13] <hossasaur> xtknight: thanks, but i guess i have to wait til reboot, i forgot i'm using the drive for bittorrent
[02:13] <tomzone> hiall
[02:13] <hossasaur> xtknight: thanks for the help
[02:13] <xtknight> hossasaur: no problem
[02:13] <XiXaQ> tiredbones_, oh.. Have you added all repositories?
[02:13] <tiredbones_> XiXaQ, there is no place to answer ok.
[02:14] <Flannel> Kervan: assuming thunderbird does the right thing (call x-www-browser), sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[02:14] <Quintin> I've got a serious problem whenever I click my power bu
[02:14] <Twigman> and... I've been through ubuntu :/
[02:14] <xtknight> tiredbones_: have you added external repositories to your Ubuntu?
[02:14] <kaje1> well, still no love... I put it into .xsession and that just made my login crash...
[02:14] <Flannel> Twigman: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[02:14] <xtknight> tiredbones_: and are you using ubuntu dapper or edgy?
[02:14] <Twigman> Flannel, thanks :)
[02:14] <hossasaur> xtknight: ubuntu makes the full transition from microsoft feasible for most, which is much different than 10 years ago
[02:14] <tiredbones_> XiXaQ, how to add all repositories? dapper
[02:15] <xtknight> hossasaur: indeed
[02:15] <Quintin> Whenever I click the power button in upper right, I get "your session has been saved" instead of the normal dialog.  how do I fix this?
[02:15] <xtknight> !universe | tiredbones_
[02:15] <ubotu> tiredbones_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:15] <xtknight> !repositories
[02:15] <kaje1> does anyone know for sure what rc file is run when a user logs into gdm? or starts X? or something similar?
[02:15] <Flannel> !startup | kaje1
[02:15] <ubotu> kaje1: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[02:16] <xtknight> kaje1: uhh i think for gdm it's the gdm session files>?
[02:16] <Quintin> livingdaylight_: PING
[02:16] <The_Rebel> can i use rc.local for starting my wireless card up using iwconfig?
[02:16] <Dr_willis> kaje1,  .xsession is ran by a specific  GDM 'entry' I belive.. in many disrtos.. not in addation to other login sessions.
[02:16] <kaje1> sorry, I should have explained more... I trying to get my .bash_profile sourced so I can pick up some aliases and my correct path...
[02:16] <viator> will ubuntu be using openid
[02:16] <tempubun> roostishaw: this link is dead, but you are after MacBook SMC Frimware Update => http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macbooksmcfirmwareupdate.html
[02:16] <xtknight> .Xsession is run by the X window system
[02:16] <viator> for the forums etc
[02:16] <hossasaur> xtknight: is there a way to set up grub to choose between different linux gui's, say between gnome and kde?
[02:16] <viator> anytime soon
[02:17] <livingdaylight_> hey, Quintin
[02:17] <Dr_willis> kaje1,  perhaps put them in your .bashrc instead of .bash_profile
[02:17] <Kervan> Flannel: i have sellected firefox from list but no browser opening now
[02:17] <Flannel> hossasaur: er, grub?  You do that at GDM/KDM
[02:17] <xtknight> hossasaur: that's not grub's job.  you can use a window manager to change between gnome and kde
[02:17] <roostishaw> tempubun: why?
[02:17] <hossasaur> xtknight: alright, thanks
[02:17] <tempubun> cos they reckon it is what allows your system to make your fan run faster/more often etc
[02:17] <roostishaw> tempubun: i have the updater installed, im on os x now. it told me i have the latest version
[02:17] <kaje1> Dr_willis: doesn't that run when I start a bash session? I need those paths to be in place for shortcuts to work
[02:18] <livingdaylight_> Quintin, i'm using uttorrent with wine now :p
[02:18] <tempubun> haha, whoops, you are on your own then, sorry couldn't be more helpful
[02:18] <boricua> is there a channel for feisty
[02:18] <roostishaw> alright
[02:18] <Quintin> livingdaylight_: I just quit using that..
[02:18] <Flannel> boricua: #ubuntu+1
[02:18] <Quintin> boricua: #ubuntu+1
[02:18] <roostishaw> tempubun: thanks anyway! :)
[02:18] <tempubun> roostishaw: be bold and trash OSX
[02:18] <roostishaw> tempubun: nawww
[02:18] <tempubun> roostishaw: k, np
[02:18] <Quintin> tempubun: osx > ubuntu
[02:18] <roostishaw> tempubun: well, get this to work and i might
[02:19] <roostishaw> tempubun: but i cant burn my lap every time i use ubuntu
[02:19] <Dr_willis> kaje1,  one way to find out.. i think that the .bashrc gets read from the initial X stuff.. never had to mess with it much.
[02:19] <tempubun> roostishaw: indeed
[02:19] <viator> i have a few macs  i think ubuntu is a much better product
[02:19] <viator> than osx
[02:19] <Dr_willis> kaje1,  it has entrys in there to set the paths.. expand on them and see if it works.
[02:19] <tempubun> me too
[02:19] <kaje1> Dr_willis: ok, i'll try bashrc... what has entries for paths?
[02:19] <tempubun> pretty hardware, runs better with *nix
[02:19] <viator> the only thing mac has on ubuntu is shockwave and photoshop
[02:19] <roostishaw> viator: it runs way too hot though
[02:20] <abo> I have a problem with firefox video plugins, anyone can help?
[02:20] <roostishaw> viator: and the whole reliability and ease of use thing
[02:20] <roostishaw> :D
[02:20] <quixote171> Anyone about want to help a noob with some wireless issues?
[02:20] <livingdaylight_> Quintin, osx>ubuntu ? :o !!!
[02:20] <viator> well i dont find the mac easier to use
[02:20] <Dr_willis> kaje1,  .bashrc i think has a line or 2 to set the path . but mine is so customized.
[02:20] <viator> or more reliable
[02:20] <roostishaw> heh, ok.
[02:20] <roostishaw> we shall agree to disagree
[02:21] <viator> actually the thing loses connection to the router all the time
[02:21] <viator> and safari locks up
[02:21] <Quintin> livingdaylight_: sure
[02:21] <roostishaw> and it doesnt in ubuntu?
[02:21] <viator> continually
[02:21] <F-nkyMNK> yay! My ubuntu 6.06 free CDs arrived in the mail! Now I'll have to find some people to hand them out to :)
[02:21] <roostishaw> send it in for repairs
[02:21] <viator> its not hardware
[02:21] <livingdaylight_> Quintin, then why are we using ubuntu?
[02:21] <viator> its software
[02:21] <Quintin> F-nkyMNK: Make sure their computers have at least 512m of ram.
[02:22] <F-nkyMNK> no probs
[02:22] <viator> and its not omthing i did its the way the crew at apple wrote it
[02:22] <Quintin> livingdaylight_: good question.. I'm gonna install macosx on my p4 now, be back in 30m
[02:22] <livingdaylight_> Quintin, because we can't afford Apple?
[02:22] <livingdaylight_> Quintin, wow...you lucky thing
[02:22] <tempubun> haha, first reboot after first upgrade on iBook ...
[02:22] <Quintin> livingdaylight_: cause I have osx, or a p4?  ;)
[02:23] <livingdaylight_> Quintin, don't rub it in... :s
[02:23] <kaje1> On an entirely different topic... I installed sshd and expected to see it in the Services config app, but no luck... What is the "approved" way to make sshd start on boot in Ubuntu?
[02:23] <Quintin> livingdaylight_: aww
[02:23] <Quintin> kaje1: apt-get install openssh-server
[02:23] <roostishaw> viator: do you know how to "fix" ubuntu (:D) and get it to control my fan speed?
[02:23] <livingdaylight_> Quintin, ^^
[02:23] <viator> roost it "just works" for me
[02:23] <sprok> is there anyway to scroll in terminal apps like less with the mouse wheel? :-)
[02:24] <tschak1> got a problem installing ubuntu. i was starting the live cd and clicked install, but nothing happend. tried to copy n paste the command into cmd line, when i did, it told me (caused by gksudo --desktop %k) that desktop cant be found. when im running "sudo ubiquity gtkui" there is just no return...any guesses? btw, its an xubuntu live cd, 6.06
[02:24] <Quintin> livingdaylight_: my 'new' computer is a p4/ht ... the other one I was using was an old piii .. but both are stupidly fast compared to what I had when I first started
[02:24] <viator> there was somthing about that on the forums
[02:24] <viator> though
[02:24] <roostishaw> viator: cool. so you dont know how... or where i could look?
[02:24] <kaje1> Quintin: I already have it installed, it isn't starting on boot though
[02:24] <roostishaw> oh...
[02:24] <dhorn> Does anyone know anything about task bar managers?
[02:24] <tempubun> my home gateway/router is a compaq p166
[02:24] <roostishaw> i didnt see it
[02:24] <Quintin> kaje1: what does /etc/init.d/sshd start do ?
[02:25] <viator> is it a macbook?
[02:25] <kaje1> Quintin: nm, I got it worked out, thanks for the help
[02:25] <dhorn> Does anyone know anything about task bar managers?
[02:25] <tschak1> if ur talking to me viator, no its not
[02:26] <roostishaw> viator: yes. "first" generation
[02:26] <tschak1> k ^^
[02:26] <nickf> howdy folks, is this a sensible place to ask about boot-related problems?
[02:26] <ebe-1> I am installing a wireless network card. I am on a windows machine here, and I need to get the package "linux-headers-2.6.17-11-server". Where can I get it from? I'll pop it on a CD and load it onto my ubuntu box.
[02:26] <Flannel> nickf: yep
[02:26] <HymnToLife> ebe-1, they should be on your ubuntu cd
[02:26] <HymnToLife> just apt-get them
[02:27] <Talaman> hello
[02:27] <sc4ttrbrain> is there any solution to get write access to hfs+ partition(mac os x journaled)  ?
[02:27] <tempubun> where does one find the location for the startup music/sunds in ubuntu?
[02:27] <HymnToLife> ebe-1, if they aren't, you can get the package from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:27] <Talaman_> hi
[02:27] <ebe-1> how do i use the cdrom as an apt-get source?
[02:27] <nickf> ah cool - I'm dual booting windows xp & feisty, both installed on a SATA drive, although I think grub is in the MBR on my IDE drive
[02:27] <tempubun> sounds*
[02:27] <tempubun> nickf: by default it will be in MBR
[02:28] <HymnToLife> ebe-1, IIRC, it should be used by default - look in your sources.list
[02:28] <HymnToLife> if it's not,   sudo apt-cdrom add
[02:28] <royel> tschaka: have you tried asking in #xubuntu ?
[02:28] <nickf> I installed windows 2nd, so naturally it trashed grub - after some messing around I managed to get grub back in MBR on the ide drive, but now I can't use grub to boot windows
[02:28] <Flannel> !grub | nickf
[02:28] <ubotu> nickf: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:28] <tschaka> royel not yet, i'll give a pure ubuntu cd a try
[02:29] <Flannel> nickf: that'll reinstall grub, which should autodetect windows
[02:29] <Talaman> how would i make sourceforge a repository?
[02:29] <tempubun> nickf: oh dear! *always* put winxp in first, once complete run a full scandisk/defrag to make it tidy, then isntall *nix
[02:29] <HymnToLife> Talaman, you don't
[02:29] <tempubun> you might have to redo grub
[02:29] <royel> tschaka: I meant, you might try asking your question in the Xubuntu support channel also, it's #xubuntu
[02:29] <cor1> i need help
[02:29] <nickf> actually reinstall grub? as in make it redetect things?
[02:30] <cor1> i cant upgrade drapper to edgy
[02:30] <HymnToLife> !ask | cor1
[02:30] <ubotu> cor1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:30] <Talaman> why not?
[02:30] <HymnToLife> !edgy | cor1
[02:30] <ubotu> cor1: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[02:30] <tempubun> well if you go to the install docs, you should see a section on the boot manager and there should be info on howto redo grub
[02:30] <HymnToLife> cor1, what's your problem ?
[02:30] <tiredbones_> Do I have to mark which repoitory to use when using synaptic?
[02:30] <viator> maybe grab a new kernel
[02:30] <viator> will help
[02:30] <roostishaw> viator: where
[02:30] <roostishaw> ?
[02:30] <jobu25> Does anyone have any experience with printers in Ubuntu? Mine won't print from the terminal
[02:30] <viator> since they added alot of mactel stuff
[02:30] <tschaka> royel yeah i know, i'll try with an ubuntu cd, to see if its a general problem, after that i'll ask in the according channel, thx anyway :)
[02:30] <cor1> i cant upgrade through terminal or update manager to edgy
[02:30] <viator> let me see of i can find somthing easier todo
[02:30] <HymnToLife> tiredbones_, no, just manage them directly in your sources.list
[02:30] <roostishaw> viator: how? and where? and will it screw up everything i have?
[02:30] <royel> tschaka: sorry couldnt do anymore for you
[02:30] <roostishaw> viator: ok, cool
[02:31] <tempubun> nickf: did you see the link from ubuto up above?
[02:31] <nickf> yeah - looks like what I did
[02:31] <royel> tschaka: I'm guessing you at least gave it a 2nd boot on the current LiveCD
[02:31] <Flannel> nickf: if you're using a feisty CD to do that, you should ask in #ubuntu+1, which is the feisty support channel, feisty might have bugs in detecting windows
[02:31] <Explosif> hey all is my WEP key stored anywhere on my computer that I can read it?
[02:32] <tiredbones_> HymnToLife, well I update the list and I'm still getting the same erros when trying to in stall a plugin for Totem.
[02:32] <ebe-1> how can i delete all my apt-get sources? its still trying to resolve a web address
[02:32] <HymnToLife> tiredbones_, which error ?
[02:32] <HymnToLife> ebe-1, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:32] <nickf> well it didnt seem to actually change my menu.lst, the windows entry was left a previous (Edgy) install
[02:32] <HymnToLife> delete - or comment out - alll the urls
[02:32] <P4ndaman> Hello everyone, I am having problems booting ubuntu linux...  I believe it is because I have an x850xt.
[02:32] <P4ndaman> this is for the first time
[02:32] <Talaman> anyone know any good third party repositories?
[02:32] <tschaka> royel i did, as well as x restart ;) found an ubuntu cd some moments ago, i'll try now :]  doenst want to install xfce on the machine anyway, its just been the first cd i found :D
[02:33] <HymnToLife> Talaman, to install what ?
[02:33] <nickf> I think the problem is either because it's a SATA drive, or that I overwrote the windows bootloader when trying to reinstall grub
[02:33] <Flannel> nickf: so, what error do you get when trying to boot windows then (after selecting it from grub)?
[02:33] <NotKubota> Should I change the jumper on the back of a cd-rom drive with a pair of needle nose pliars?
[02:33] <royel> tschaka: well good luck with Ubuntu :)
[02:33] <cor1> I CANT UPGRADE TO EDGY PLEASE IM ME TO TELL ME
[02:33] <nickf> I think it says that it can't find a bootloader
[02:33] <sethk> nickf, you are supposed to overwrite the windows boot loader, so why's that a problem?
[02:33] <Talaman> to install anything...mainly games though
[02:33] <Flannel> nickf: GRUB doesn't use the windows bootloader to boot windows, it takes the place of the windows bootloader
[02:33] <fevel> hey guys
[02:33] <tiredbones_> HymnToLife, this error --totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin: Depends: totem-gstreamer (=1.4.1-0ubuntu4) but 1.4.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[02:33] <royel> !shout | cor1
[02:33] <ubotu> cor1: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:33] <nickf> it does?
[02:33] <tschaka> royel thx, will be my third machine running ubuntu ;)
[02:34] <nickf> I assumed grub launched the windows bootloader?
[02:34] <HymnToLife> tiredbones_, running Edgy or Dapper ?
[02:34] <NotKubota> Should I change the jumper on the back of a cd-rom drive with a pair of needle nose pliars?
[02:34] <Quintin> nickf: wrong
[02:34] <Flannel> nickf: nope.  it loads windows as the bootloader does
[02:34] <Quintin> NotKubota: change it with your finger
[02:34] <fevel> I get an error opening dvx in mplayer, it gives a fatal error initilializing the selected video_out (-vo)device
[02:34] <sethk> nickf, no
[02:34] <tiredbones_> HymnToLife, dapper
[02:34] <fevel> any ideas?
[02:34] <Quintin> fevel: then change it, ffs