[08:37] <MenZa> Steff_breezy:  Err, missed it
[08:37] <SAM_theman> i tried remove kde,kde-base,kde-core
[08:37] <MenZa> Ah, right
[08:37] <Tedd> SAM_theman: what are you trying to do, install Gnome?
[08:37] <SAM_theman> no
[08:37] <SAM_theman> i am on it know
[08:37] <Tedd> get rid of the entire OS?
[08:37] <ProN00b> how do i play xm music files on ubuntu ?
[08:37] <SAM_theman> i tried kubuntu i didn't like it
[08:37] <SAM_theman> so i removeing it
[08:37] <gunpowda> what's that command to view debug?
[08:37] <pax> Steff_breezy:  yes, kubuntu-desktop is just meta package, will not remove everything that's KDE related
[08:37] <edgardpacheco> hi again
[08:37] <edgardpacheco> i have other question
[08:38] <edgardpacheco> i have a .mpg movie, what program do i need to have installed for seeing it?
[08:38] <aze45> ompaul: ok, can't login again.
[08:38] <_jason> ubotu: tell edgardpacheco about multimedia
[08:38] <Tedd> SAM_theman: use the Breezy OS disk, go into the partitioner, and delete all the partitions. Everything will be gone, and I do mean EVERYTHING: the os, and all files on the hard drive
[08:38] <Steff_breezy> teclo, HOW TO: Set up pdf printer, link: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140815    works fine for me
[08:38] <Steff_breezy> MenZa, if you have to interrupt, because it will take a while, just set the number for $count to where you stopped the next time you start it
[08:39] <ompaul> aze45, did you get your new password?
[08:39] <MenZa> Yep, saw it :)
[08:39] <SAM_theman> very funnie
[08:39] <MenZa> Steff_breezy: Exactly where is it sent again?
[08:39] <aze45> ompaul: yes, i connect to launchpad, reset my password, and log to my account,
[08:39] <Steff_breezy> MenZa, ~/siterip, havent  looked there yet?
[08:39] <MenZa> Nope
[08:40] <aze45> ompaul: but when i go to wiki.ubuntu.com i can't login
[08:40] <ompaul> aze45, firefox?
[08:40] <aze45> ompaul: mozilla suite why ?
[08:40] <MenZa> Steff_breezy: ...er, ~ denotes previous dir, right?
[08:40] <Howitzer> What's the problem?
[08:40] <pax> SAM_theman: paste this command in terminal http://pastebin.com/690790
[08:40] <kbrooks> MenZa: no
[08:40] <Howitzer> i'm feeling helpfull
[08:40] <Steff_breezy> MenZa, your home directory/siterip
[08:40] <kbrooks> MenZa: .. denotes that
[08:41] <MenZa> right, right.
[08:41] <pax> oops I mean Steff_breezy
[08:41] <SAM_theman> thanks man
[08:41] <SAM_theman> these programs where the one still o
[08:41] <SAM_theman> After unpacking 317MB disk space will be freed.
[08:41] <SAM_theman> YES
[08:41] <SAM_theman> bye bye shit
[08:42] <aze45> ompaul: can try with galeon
[08:42] <pax> hehe
[08:43] <aze45> ompaul: same with galeon... what about links/elinks
[08:43] <Steff_breezy> pax, that was not so funny, maybe theres newbies here who do so. Admins, this guy is a bad bad boy
[08:43] <pax> Steff_breezy: what are you taking about?
[08:44] <pax> Steff_breezy: I think you are confused and need an asprin.
[08:44] <ompaul> aze45, well you might be able to do something like this: edit  preferences to see what you have in for launchpad and wiki - and check privacy and saved passwords - sorry not using mozilla, but firefox-mozilla so it might be similar
[08:44] <pierre-> i'm using centericq, it supports console command execution when some instant message arrives... how can i do it to show some nice box like gmail-notify does?
[08:44] <TAW_Bug> How do I view my network from console?
[08:44] <ompaul> aze45, you can view saved passwords and that can be useful
[08:45] <ProN00b> hey, can anyone help me, how do i play modtunes (chiptunes) with a .xm extension on ubuntu ??
[08:45] <Steff_breezy> pax, oh, Im very sorry, I thought you wanted me to sudo everything in a terminal, didnt notice that this was a useful removal
[08:45] <Steff_breezy> pax, sorry pal
[08:45] <pax> Steff_breezy: that was another person, and I don't think you have kubuntu installed. np :)
[08:46] <SAM_theman> brb rebooting
[08:46] <aze45> ompaul: the problem is i have already checked this type of thing, i just tried with galeon, and firefox (nor moz-suite) and i got the same "wrong password" error. moreover, i use a password manager (revelation) so i _know_ my launchpad password
[08:47] <Steff_breezy> MenZa, found everything?
[08:48] <Iskandar> hi to all
[08:48] <Steff_breezy> MenZa, busy watching gallerys?  ;P
[08:48] <Iskandar> i would like to install ubuntu on a laptop asus
[08:48] <Iskandar> some suggestion
[08:48] <ctothej> anyone want to help me troubleshoot a problem with x?
[08:48] <Tedd> Iskandar: Go right ahead, you don't need permission :P
[08:48] <Iskandar> i know
[08:49] <Tedd> That's a joke, dude. So, what do you need? Maybe I can help you.
[08:49] <Iskandar> i have already installed many version of ubuntu on desktop but
[08:49] <polpak> !tell ctothej about anyone
[08:49] <ompaul> aze45, your missing my point, your browser needs all its passwords for wiki deleted it may have something there then you can start again
[08:49] <Iskandar> someone told me that on laptop is quite different
[08:49] <Tedd> Iskandar, it's a gamble
[08:49] <_jason> Iskandar: not really
[08:49] <Tedd> You can't really tell
[08:49] <Tedd> Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't; I've heard horror stories and stories of "Damn this was easy"
[08:50] <aze45> ompaul: what? maybe, my password is in my browser password manager? i check now
[08:50] <ctothej> heh. yep channel newb lol
[08:50] <Iskandar> i wonder if i will have problem with drivers
[08:50] <Tedd> Only problem I've ever gotten from the Ubuntu installer on myd esktop is the Debootstrap error.
[08:50] <Tedd> And that was fixed by not having a swap space
[08:50] <Shigutso> neither my XMMS or my Rythmnbox are playing .WAV files. MPlayer played, but very bad. I already downloaded the codecs for Restricted Formats at wiki.ubuntu.com. What should I do?
[08:50] <teclo> Steff_breezy: hello
[08:50] <aze45> ompaul: i'll erase all my launchpad+wiki passwords
[08:51] <Tedd> Shigutso: do you have w32codecs installed?
[08:51] <teclo> Steff_breezy: still doens't work... :/
[08:51] <Shigutso> Tedd: yes...!
[08:51] <SAM_theman> Yup its gone
[08:51] <ctothej> x server fails on boot with this error: "fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found". I have an ATI X1000 Series card and updated the driver using apt-get and gflrx.
[08:51] <Iskandar> if i use the live cd can i test all the drivers?
[08:51] <Steff_breezy> teclo, have you tried the Howto?
[08:51] <Tedd> Shigutso: sorry, I don't use .wav files, just trying to help
[08:51] <gunpowda> I don't understand why my ipod can't mount
[08:51] <Shigutso> Tedd: oh ok... thx anyway :)
[08:51] <teclo> Steff_breezy: if I go into System Settings > Printers, I can see six printers, including "Print to File" PDF, but I only see the first printer in the Mozilla print menu
[08:52] <gunpowda> I installed gtkipod, which hasn't been able to find it either
[08:52] <Steff_breezy> teclo, you can use pdf for a printer then
[08:52] <ompaul> aze45, just wiki your launchpad works - unless it suits you to start from scratch
[08:52] <mythica> where do i find the modules configuration file?
[08:52] <scifi> i have found a really nice 1600X1200 wallpaper, but i can be resized to 1024X768 ?
[08:52] <Steff_breezy> teclo, tried to restart mozilla?
[08:52] <scifi> it*
[08:52] <Tedd> scifi: yes
[08:52] <mythica> on fedora i know its /etc/modprobe.conf
[08:52] <teclo> Steff_breezy: ah, let's restart mozilla then
[08:52] <polpak> ctothej: can you pastebin the output of lspci ?
[08:52] <Tedd> scifi: Just right-click your desktop, navigate to it, and just put it on "stretch"
[08:52] <bbrazil> scifi: convert -resize 1024x768 old.png new.png
[08:52] <ctothej> if anyone has configured a recent ATI card on ubuntu, i would really appreciate a little help or a PM
[08:52] <SAM_theman> scifi send it to me
[08:52] <polpak> !tell ctothej about pastebin
[08:53] <Flannel> to run fetchmail (as a daemon), do I have to move all my config stuff to /etc/fetchmailrc? can I not have the init.d look in users home directories?
[08:53] <SAM_theman> let me check it out
[08:53] <SAM_theman> please
[08:53] <Tedd> bbrazil: that's not even necesary, is it?
[08:53] <aze45> ompaul: "just wiki your launchpad works" - i don't understand ?
[08:53] <bbrazil> Tedd: I don't know, but it is hte most general solution
[08:53] <Iskandar> i don't remember ctothej where was the site but i read something about the high resolution
[08:54] <Iskandar> you have to install new device to enable high resolution
[08:54] <Tedd> scifi: right click your desktop, click 'new background' or something like that, and just use the window to navigate to it, and set it as stretch, that should work
[08:54] <ctothej> polpak: ...
[08:54] <ctothej> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 79
[08:54] <ctothej> 0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 7269
[08:54] <ctothej> ...
[08:54] <teclo> Steff_breezy: still the same problem
[08:54] <polpak> ctothej: use pastebin next time pls
[08:54] <scifi> Tedd: yeh gonna try that 1st :)
[08:54] <ctothej> dont know how...
[08:54] <Tedd> :P
[08:54] <teclo> Steff_breezy: ....if I go into System Settings > Printers, I can see six printers, including "Print to File" PDF, but I only see the first printer in the Mozilla print menu
[08:54] <Tedd> ctothej: paste.ubuntu.nl
[08:54] <polpak> ctothej: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[08:54] <Tedd> errr
[08:54] <Shigutso> is it safe to install aMSN 0.95, even if there is only the 0.94 version to "safelly download"??
[08:55] <Tedd> ctothej: paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:55] <Steff_breezy> teclo, try to print a test page with the new pdf printer, try to use it from another app
[08:55] <aze45> ompaul: now, i got a problem, i can't login on launchpad, i'll try the recover password one more time
[08:55] <ctothej> ohh nice. yes i can...
[08:55] <ompaul> aze45, then wipe both
[08:55] <ompaul> aze45, from your browser and wait 10 minutes before you start again
[08:56] <Iskandar> have ou installed the propetary ati driver for linux?
[08:56] <teclo> Steff_breezy: in OpenOffice also, I see only one printer
[08:56] <gunpowda> is there a location bar where I can type in paths on nautilus?
[08:56] <landwalker> ijwdi
[08:57] <Iskandar> ok i try the installation on the asus M6000
[08:57] <ctothej> polpak, pasted xorg.conf under name ctothej
[08:57] <Steff_breezy> teclo, hmm, test page from the printer works?
[08:57] <Iskandar> laptop
[08:57] <teclo> Steff_breezy: question... all that stuff in the howto... to add a printer... is it in kde's "Printers" ... or in cups ?
[08:57] <polpak> ctothej: it should have given you a url?
[08:57] <Iskandar> wish me good luck
[08:57] <Shigutso> is it safe to install aMSN 0.95, even if there is only the 0.94 version to "safelly download" in Ubuntu repositories??
[08:57] <Tedd> Iskandar: good luck, dude :P
[08:57] <polpak> ctothej: have you installed the fglrx driver from the wiki instructions already?
[08:57] <gnomefreak> gunpowda: you should beable to use the search button for that
[08:57] <ctothej> polpak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13170
[08:57] <Iskandar> i'll tell you how many device i'll succeed to bring up
[08:57] <ctothej> polpak, yes i have
[08:58] <arrick> gnomefreak, how are you this fine day?
[08:58] <SAM_theman> guys i am having a mager problem
[08:58] <Iskandar> bye
[08:58] <gnomefreak> arrick: tired but good and you?
[08:58] <SAM_theman> I am not able to hear my game sounds
[08:58] <scifi> Tedd: the options are "centrd", "fill-screen", "tiled" or "scaled", so which is best ?
[08:58] <Tedd> Fill-screen.
[08:58] <Tedd> Brb, switching to KVIrc
[08:58] <arrick> wide awake gnomefreak, working on my website
[08:58] <arrick> gotta update
[08:58] <SAM_theman> like exmaple et(enemy Territory) there is no sound comming for it and it plays well
[08:58] <ctothej> polpak, note: i have xorg.conf set up for 2 screens, both outputs from the same card
[08:59] <gnomefreak> i have been working on mine for last 2 days lol
[08:59] <polpak> ctothej: I see that, though I don't think it's set up quite right there
[08:59] <H_Bug> I need to configure my network to change my workgroup.. i have a windowz box next to me and both comps are comected by my *nix box shows up in a mdkgroup and my windows box shows up in other workgroup.. where do i edit my workground in *nix?
[08:59] <mythica> where do i find the modules configuration file?
[09:00] <polpak> ctothej: but firstly.. pastebin the output of lsmod
[09:00] <aze45> ompaul: its drive me nuts! i will wait a little (10min - why?) to see if my new password at launchpad got effective on wiki
[09:00] <mythica> i am following an install guide and need to figure out where to write all this stuff to
[09:00] <linme> hi
[09:00] <scifi> Tedd: actually scaled looks no different to fill-screen. really happy with it though :D
[09:00] <gnomefreak> hi
[09:00] <Steff_breezy> well, I think adding a printer this way will add it for kds also, but Im no kde expert
[09:00] <ctothej> poppak, is there a way to do that straight from the linux command line? thats a long list and I am using my laptop for talking here..
[09:01] <Shigutso> is it safe to install aMSN 0.95, even if there is only the 0.94 version to "safelly download" in Ubuntu repositories??
[09:01] <polpak> ctothej: is your laptop using ubuntu also?
[09:01] <ctothej> no.
[09:01] <bbrazil> H_Bug: /etc/samba/smb.conf
[09:01] <linme> i downloaded NetBeans for linux but i'm not able to install... its a sh file but it opens in xpad...
[09:02] <ctothej> polpak, but, i have the network configured on ubuntu and used ftp to send xorg.conf to the net so i could paste it.
[09:02] <polpak> ctothej: that's unfortunate.. Still... Install openssh-server on the desktop computer, then ssh to it (using a free windows app like putty, or just the terminal on a mac)
[09:02] <polpak> ctothej: then you can copy paste from the ssh terminal window
[09:02] <linme> how to install sh file
[09:02] <munzir> pax: why should apt-get remove kubunt-desktop remove all kde packages? isn't this why metapackages are useful?
[09:03] <Killaz> guys I followed the help on the ubuntu forum for etting up a SSL enabled apache but I keep getting a 404 Error can one of you help me?
[09:03] <scifi> hey guys what does a mounted drive look like using the tango icon them ?
[09:03] <ctothej> polpak, ah nice. going to need some quick help with the linux part of that...
[09:03] <Flannel> munzir: correct.  kubuntu-desktop won't remove anything except the meta package.
[09:03] <Steff_breezy> menza is gone now, guess my download script keeps him busy...
[09:03] <psyke83> has anyone here got a Dell Inspiron 8000 laptop?
[09:03] <gnomefreak> munzir: to remove kubuntu-desktop (almost if not fully) sudo apt-get remove --purge libqt3-mt
[09:03] <polpak> ctothej: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[09:03] <SAM_theman> has anyone have the same problem i am having with there sound
[09:03] <gnomefreak> !info libqt3-mt
[09:03] <ubotu> libqt3-mt: (Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3), section libs, is optional. Version: 3:3.3.4-8ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 3213 kB, Installed size: 9036 kB
[09:04] <gnomefreak> yep that is the one
[09:04] <SAM_theman> Like my sound for music plays well and the radio but not on amarok but on ryth....
[09:04] <H_Bug> bbrazil:I tried doing that in my users and su accounts but I keep getting a Permission denied errror
[09:04] <ctothej> polpak, its installing...
[09:04] <ctothej> polpak, done
[09:04] <SAM_theman> not on the games or on the site that you watch clips
[09:04] <polpak> ctothej: then just ssh to the desktop's IP using your username/password
[09:04] <Kr0ntab> edgardpacheco, psyke83 whats up with yer laptop
[09:04] <Killaz> [warn]  RSA server certificate CommonName (CN) `server' does NOT match server name!?
[09:04] <munzir> Flannel, gnomefreak: but this would make it very difficult for normal people to tell how to remove it. What's wrong if they made the metapackage remove all its dependencies?
[09:05] <Killaz> this is teh error I'm getting
[09:05] <pax> munzir: nobody said sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop will remove all kde packages.
[09:05] <Kr0ntab> oops  sorry ed
[09:05] <Flannel> munzir: because it defeats the purposes of meta packages?
[09:05] <Killaz> not an error but a warn
[09:05] <munzir> !info xvidcap
[09:05] <psyke83> Kr0ntab: I'm not looking for support, it's fine, I need people with the laptop to test a patch I've written
[09:05] <polpak> Killaz: that's fine.. that's not the error
[09:05] <H_Bug> bbrazil:I'm in idiot nevermind i have the solution
[09:05] <polpak> Killaz: just a warning because you didn't make your own cert
[09:06] <Flannel> munzir: what if I wanted to remove component X of ubuntu-desktop? the meta package would be removed because it has unmet dependancies
[09:06] <Kr0ntab> oic
[09:06] <munzir> pax: yes I am saying why not
[09:06] <mikdeazy> anyone know if ubuntu supports avance ALS 300 soundcard
[09:06] <Flannel> munzir: there ARE applications that can remove things left orphaned
[09:06] <polpak> Killaz: the problem is the 404.. Check your apache conf and make sure the document root is where you think it should be
[09:06] <ctothej> polpak, quick way to check my ip on the linux machine?
[09:07] <polpak> ctothej: ifconfig -a will list your network devices and their assigned addresses
[09:07] <Killaz> polpak: without the https I dont get a 404
[09:07] <polpak> Killaz: then the secure server is using a different document root than the insecure one?
[09:07] <pax> munzir: that's what tools like aptitude are for
[09:07] <Killaz> polpak: the DocumentRoot is pointing to the same one as the insecure
[09:08] <polpak> Killaz: then you'd get the 404( or not ) on both.
[09:08] <polpak> Killaz: can you pastebin your httpd.conf file?
[09:08] <munzir> Flannel: can't it be made in a way that removing ubuntu-desktop would remove all the packages but removing one of the components would only remove that component? ;)
[09:08] <Killaz> polpak: nope.. I only get 404 on the https enabled one
[09:09] <Steff_breezy> MenZa, hey you are still here? thought you were gone
[09:09] <] KJ[> hi again - how can I install the terminus font for ubuntu ?
[09:09] <munzir> pax: how from aptitude am I suppose to find how to remove all kde?
[09:09] <pax> munzir:  with aptitude you can install and later remove kubuntu-desktop and there are no leftover packages.
[09:09] <Flannel> munzir: no.  Because if you remove a component, it HAS to remove the whle thing.  Since otherwise that 'whole thing" isn't all there.
[09:10] <ctothej> polpak, lsmod output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13171
[09:10] <Steff_breezy> munzir, I dont use kde, just for interest: why do you want to remove all of it again?
[09:10] <munzir> pax: you mean removing from aptitude is not like removing by apt-get remove?
[09:10] <pax> munzir: aptitude remembers deps attached to a package and can remove them for you
[09:10] <polpak> ctothej: ok, well the first problem is that the fglrx module isn't loaded
[09:11] <] KJ[> newbie q : is gnome taking less memory and/or resources then kde ?
[09:11] <ctothej> polpak, shit... lol
[09:11] <munzir> pax: is adept and synaptic do the same?
[09:11] <Killaz> polpak: http://pastebin.com/690858
[09:11] <polpak> ctothej: follow the instructions on the wiki to install it
[09:12] <ctothej> polpak, would the failure/error stop it from loading?
[09:12] <polpak> !tell ctothej about fglrx
[09:12] <pax> munzir: I'm not familiar with adept
[09:12] <Killaz> polpak: I pastebin the ssl virtual host
[09:12] <polpak> ctothej: can you pastebin /etc/modules ?
[09:12] <ctothej> polpak, ok, ill try installing it again...
[09:12] <ctothej> sure..
[09:12] <Killaz> polpak: in the listen.conf I have Listen 443
[09:12] <Killaz> polpak: I mean ports.conf
[09:12] <] KJ[> can anyone here help me with terminus font ? i really like that font and would like it for ubuntu
[09:13] <gnomefreak> !font
[09:13] <ubotu> font is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[09:13] <ctothej> polpak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13172
[09:13] <Flannel> hmm.
[09:13] <] KJ[> !font
[09:13] <ubotu> font is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[09:14] <SAM_theman> !sound
[09:14] <ubotu> I heard sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[09:14] <Lhademmor> !azureus
[09:14] <ubotu> well, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[09:14] <arrick> Has anyone here successfully installed Frontpage 2002 Extensions on there Ubuntu/Apache2 server?
[09:14] <] KJ[> !vlc
[09:14] <ubotu> well, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[09:14] <polpak> ctothej:sudo depmod && sudo modprobe -a
[09:14] <ompaul> aze45, after you request it, it should all work straight away, however if you wait 10 then give it a moment to sync and there are no previous wiki entries or launchpad entries it should work - at least that is my experience
[09:15] <polpak> Killaz: that doesn't look right, but I'm not that familiar with apache2 config layout so I could be wrong
[09:16] <Killaz> polpak: hmm what doesnt look right?
[09:16] <ctothej> polpak, that gives me usage for modprobe..
[09:16] <xbox_sky> i want to know what version mysql is , is there a text command?
[09:16] <Killaz> polpak: this is the default ssl config
[09:16] <andrew_> hey i'm trying to stream a video from you tube, I can get the video but no audio. anyone help?
[09:16] <polpak> Killaz: ok, well what is the url you're trying to access?
[09:16] <bbrazil> Killaz: why is it <VirtualHost *:443> ? you should specify an IP address
[09:17] <] KJ[> xbox_sky: sudo mysqld -V
[09:17] <mythica> how do you get to task manager in ubuntu ?
[09:17] <polpak> bbrazil: well it's ok if he only has 1 site being hosted
[09:17] <mikdeazy> anyone know if ubuntu still supports older ISA cards ?
[09:17] <Killaz> polpak: aha you're right....
[09:17] <Killaz> polpak: has to do with the IP...
[09:17] <xbox_sky> thanks K
[09:17] <bbrazil> mythica: type 'ps aux' in a terminal for a list of processes
[09:17] <andrew_> mythica: ps ax
[09:17] <devscott-laptop> xbox_sky: mysql -V
[09:18] <Killaz> polpak: when I access the site from within my network .. everything is ok..
[09:18] <mythica> ta
[09:18] <devscott-laptop> xbox_sky: or mysql --version
[09:18] <Flannel> !font
[09:18] <ubotu> I heard font is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[09:18] <Flannel> good.
[09:18] <Jimmey__> Three lions on a shirt..
[09:18] <xbox_sky> tx guys
[09:18] <devscott-laptop> !gksudo
[09:18] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[09:18] <arrick> Flannel, is this the old flannelking?
[09:19] <Killaz> polpak: when I use the external IP, NAT to the server thing goes wrong
[09:19] <Flannel> arrick: it is!
[09:19] <dxdemetriou> hi
[09:19] <mythica> whats gnome-system-monitor ?
[09:19] <ctothej> polpak, see my last response about the command?
[09:19] <polpak> ctothej: yeah, I just saw it
[09:19] <ctothej> k
[09:19] <bpont> hi..I bought a Seagate 250 gig HD and a Promise Ultra ATA/133 PCI IDE Controller to add to my system...does anyone know if Ubuntu will recognize the controller card and the full capacity of the new hard drive?
[09:19] <freakynl> hola, does ubuntu support isa soundcards?
[09:19] <polpak> ctothej: what is the command you typed?
[09:20] <ctothej> polpak, sudo depmod && sudo modprobe -a
[09:20] <mirak> are we supposed to have Xv overlay driver with ATI proprietary drivers ?
[09:20] <XiXaQ> Hello everyone. I've just installed windows, so I can download and maybe try and install Ubuntu 6.06. I need to make CERTAIN that this iso is correct before I try though. The workstation disk is Live&Installation disk? Does it check itself before it starts to install the system?
[09:20] <Killaz> polpak: where can I change the conf so I can access the secure server from an external IP
[09:20] <ctothej> polpak, -a requires a module name to be specified
[09:20] <mirak> XiXaQ: you installed windows ?
[09:20] <edgardpacheco> hi again
[09:20] <devscott-laptop> mythica: http://freshmeat.net/projects/gnome-system-monitor/
[09:20] <mirak> XiXaQ: what os do you use beside windows and linux ?
[09:21] <dxdemetriou> While boot the Breezy it loads the Alsa for sound card. In Multimedia System Selector the ESD is for output and OSS for input. I am confused with this, because i don't know what will work with tv-card. Anybody knows where can I find information about that?
[09:21] <edgardpacheco> where can i find an html editor as good as front page?
[09:21] <XiXaQ> mirak, yes, I had to, cause 5.10 installation doesn't work, and there was no way to check if the cd had been burned correctly.
[09:21] <mythica> thanks devscott-laptop
[09:21] <jmoncayo> does eomebody know what is the meaning of $|++ in perl?
[09:21] <gunpowda> frontpage is terrible
[09:21] <XiXaQ> mirak, I've installed operating systems more than thirty times the last week.
[09:21] <mirak> XiXaQ: you could burnt another CD
[09:21] <dxdemetriou> sorry.. it is wrong.
[09:21] <devscott-laptop> edgardpacheco: try scream or bluefish
[09:21] <edgardpacheco> i know, but is there a good html editor for linux?
[09:21] <dxdemetriou> While boot the Breezy it loads the Alsa for sound card. In Multimedia System Selector the ESD is for output and OSS for input. I am confused with this.
[09:21] <gunpowda> try the mozilla foundation's free one, nvu
[09:21] <bpont> does anyone know if Ubuntu has size limits with recognizing hard drives?
[09:22] <polpak> ctothej: odd, try sudo modprobe fglrx
[09:22] <edgardpacheco> which one is the best for you? scream or bluefish?
[09:22] <scifi> can anyone recommend and icon theme ?
[09:22] <bpont> the so-called 137 gig barrier?
[09:22] <freakynl> XiXaQ: ? every descent burning program has a verify option
[09:22] <devscott-laptop> gunpowda: is that mozilla's or linspire's?
[09:22] <Jimmey__> d3a
[09:22] <mirak> bpont: the limit doesn't come from ubuntu
[09:22] <Jimmey__> scifi, d3a
[09:22] <jmoncayo> !perl
[09:22] <ubotu> jmoncayo: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:22] <mirak> bpont: but the bios. well, some bioses
[09:22] <XiXaQ> mirak, no I could not. I tried to install ubuntu, and it used all of my disk. But it didn't work, so I had to use the live-cd. But it isn't possible to burn a cd from that, cause it depends on the cd.
[09:22] <freakynl> XiXaQ: every large distro provides md5 or other sums for their iso's to check if the d/l is ok
[09:22] <ctothej> polpak, fatal error
[09:22] <Lhademmor> Weeeee, I just got Azureus up 'n' running thanks to the Ubuntu wiki.  You can load it in ram
[09:22] <XiXaQ> mirak, I have burned nine different copies of ubuntu 5.10, on three different cdroms and from several different sources.
[09:23] <polpak> ctothej: ok, then you must have missed something in the wiki
[09:23] <mirak> XiXaQ: lol
[09:23] <mirak> XiXaQ: ok I guess it's enough
[09:23] <scifi> Jimmey_: they look nice, but rather large, can they be resized ?
[09:23] <polpak> ctothej: follow the instructions ubotu sent you
[09:23] <XiXaQ> mirak, it isn't funny. I'm VERY tired. I havent slept for days now.
[09:23] <ctothej> polpak, ill do it again and report back, thank you so much.
[09:23] <bpont> mirak, what if i have a controller card to solve that problem...will Ubuntu recognize it?  i'm getting a Promise Ultra ATA/133 PCI IDE controller...there's Windoze drivers on the site, but no Linux ones...so now I'm nervous and am considering cancelling the order
[09:23] <LordFalcon> Dapper is very nice
[09:23] <Jimmey__> scifi, I don't know XoD They worked normal for me
[09:23] <JarG0n> !Ubugtu help vnc
[09:23] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, JarG0n
[09:24] <freakynl> anyone on my question? i need to know if _ubuntu_ supports isa soundcards. i'm not familiar with ubuntu (run gentoo myself) and want to sell this machine, therefore i need the distro to support it (nice and easy), fedora doesn't support isa anymore
[09:24] <XiXaQ> LordFalcon, have you installed it?
[09:24] <polpak> Killaz: How is your NAT set up?
[09:24] <mirak> bpont: bail out if there is no linux drivers
[09:24] <Jimmey__> ubotu just swore :O
[09:24] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Jimmey__
[09:24] <polpak> Killaz: it should work fine so long as nat is forwarding 443
[09:24] <qkslvr> Ok...so I just did the gksudo something -d upgrade on my box...
[09:24] <LordFalcon> XiXaQ, jepp, did it with the upgrade tool in breezy
[09:24] <qkslvr> and xorg.conf is hosed up
[09:24] <XiXaQ> freakynl, heh, you're gonna sell a computer that only has isa support?
[09:25] <JarG0n> !Ubugtu help installing vnc
[09:25] <ubotu> JarG0n: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:25] <qkslvr> how might I go about fixing that?
[09:25] <XiXaQ> LordFalcon, oh, ok.
[09:25] <Killaz> polpak: *blush*
[09:25] <Sven_vB> hi
[09:25] <JarG0n> :(
[09:25] <Flannel> qkslvr: #ubuntu+1 will be of more help
[09:25] <freakynl> XiXaQ: P-III 866 won't be worth around 50-75 euro
[09:25] <qkslvr> ok
[09:25] <qkslvr> thanks
[09:25] <Killaz> polpak: omg... what am I a noob...
[09:25] <freakynl> XiXaQ: it has pci networkcard n such, only the soundcard is isa
[09:25] <bpont> mirak, yeah...i think so...it's amazing hardware manufacturers still haven't caught on to supporting Linux yet...I guess their execs (bought and paid for by MS) are hoping Linux just fades away...
[09:25] <polpak> Killaz: =p
[09:25] <freakynl> err s/won't/would
[09:25] <Killaz> polpak: I should stop working with pc..... :D
[09:25] <mirak> bpont: that's not only linux, there is also BSD
[09:25] <JarG0n> After I install VNC from Synaptic, how do I get it to run?
[09:25] <mirak> bpont: and even OS X by the way
[09:25] <mikdeazy> hey freakyn1
[09:25] <XiXaQ> freakynl, buy some cheap usb speakers or something. :)
[09:26] <dxdemetriou> Is there some way to configure one driver for sound card? I can't remove the alsa, and I can't find the oss
[09:26] <freakynl> XiXaQ: nah don't wanna invest money in it
[09:26] <XiXaQ> freakynl, oh, hehe, you're asking if ubuntu could support it. I was of no use. Sorry. :)
[09:26] <freakynl> dxdemetriou: oss is deprecated, alsa is the way to go
[09:26] <bpont> mirak, that's true...but Apple doesn't really support hardware upgrades anyway, do they?
[09:26] <freakynl> XiXaQ: :)
[09:26] <devscott-laptop> JarG0n: http://ubuntuguide.org/ and look under remote desktop
[09:26] <JarG0n> Thx!
[09:27] <mikdeazy> freakyn1 checkout http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?postid=1429185
[09:27] <mirak> bpont: no but there is PCI ports on the powermacs
[09:27] <freakynl> mirak: hola
[09:27] <freakynl> mirak: thx
[09:27] <mirak> so you could acces all pci world from pc.
[09:27] <mirak> well at least plug them into the mac ...
[09:27] <XiXaQ> LordFalcon, do you know if the desktop cd is both live and installation cd?
[09:27] <bpont> mirak, well in any case, i'm bummed...i got a great deal on a Seagate 250 gig hard drive which i wanted to use with Ubuntu...oh well
[09:27] <freakynl> mikdeazy: yea found that earlier too, but it's core 2 they talk about
[09:27] <dxdemetriou> freakynl: I prefer the oss. Can I use it with the alsa volume control?
[09:28] <devscott-laptop> XiXaQ: no, but the live cd is
[09:28] <mikdeazy> freakyn1 doh - not worth looking at then no ?
[09:28] <LordFalcon> XiXaQ, I dont know.. but the live dapper cd can install dapper
[09:28] <freakynl> dxdemetriou: doubt that
[09:28] <mirak> bpont: the problem is your motherboard. you need to upgrade the bios
[09:28] <freakynl> dxdemetriou: haven't used oss in years
[09:28] <mirak> bpont: flash it flash it
[09:29] <TheUni> after setting up apache and php4, when i try to visit a .php file on my site, it just asks me to save rather then interperiting it. anyone know why?
[09:29] <bpont> mirak, yeah...the mobo is old...they don't support it anymore...most current bios version is from 2000...already flashed it
[09:29] <_jason> TheUni: did you try the trouble shooting tips for php on the LAMP wiki?
[09:29] <freakynl> TheUni: apache hasn't have php loaded or doesn't execute it on php files
[09:29] <ompaul> XiXaQ, did you try wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge?
[09:29] <ctothej> polpak, do i need to run dpgk-reconfigure oserver-xorg? i dont want to overwrite my xorg.conf because of the changes I mad to it for the 2 monitors
[09:29] <mirak> bpont: what is it ?
[09:29] <polpak> ctothej: no
[09:29] <dxdemetriou> freakynl: I am confused because there are multiple drivers for sound card, and I don't know what uses what :(
[09:30] <mirak> bpont: you need to find a supported IDE card then
[09:30] <polpak> ctothej: the key thing is you have to have the fglrx module loaded
[09:30] <polpak> ctothej: and installed
[09:30] <TheUni> freakynl: how do i fix that?
[09:30] <JarG0n> So, "Remote Desktop" in Ubuntu is actually VNC?
[09:30] <SAM_theman> Device "/dev/dsp" does not exist
[09:30] <ctothej> polpak, restarting now.. everything installed fine.
[09:30] <SAM_theman> ?
[09:30] <SAM_theman> wtf wheres my sound???
[09:31] <bpont> mirak, Motherboard Name  	Iwill BD100plus (2 ISA, 5 PCI, 1 AGP, 4 DIMM)
[09:31] <freakynl> dxdemetriou: check this out (it's alsa tho' why do you want oss?) http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/
[09:31] <bpont> mirak, Motherboard Chipset  	Intel 82440BX
[09:31] <freakynl> dxdemetriou: find your card in the card list (or the chip)
[09:31] <devscott-laptop>  JarG0n: I believe so, but could be wrong
[09:31] <bpont> mirak, BIOS Type  	Award Modular (12/12/00)
[09:31] <devscott-laptop> !vnc
[09:31] <ubotu> somebody said vnc was http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)
[09:32] <freakynl> TheUni: you need to load the php module in the apache.conf/httpd.conf and setup the .php extention to be parsed by the php module
[09:32] <TheUni> freakynl: any good guides to help me do that?
[09:32] <scifi> Jimmey_: thx they look great :)
[09:32] <ctothej> polpak, same error as before... how should i check for the driver?
[09:32] <dxdemetriou> freakynl: ok, but why I can't select the alsa from Multimedia System Selector? It doesn't work
[09:32] <bpont> mirak, where can i find a supported (by Ubuntu) IDE card...the Promise card is supported by my system...just windows, not linux
[09:32] <mirak> don't know ...
[09:33] <arrick> hey I sarge really different than breezy?
[09:33] <JarG0n> Devscott> looks that way now that I look through the config screen. :)
[09:33] <devscott-laptop> TheUni: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.2-Manual/ref-guide/s1-apache-addmods.html
[09:33] <mythica> how do ubuntus modules work ?
[09:33] <unen> anyone in here use cedega?
[09:33] <freakynl> TheUni: www.php.net
[09:33] <mythica> where do i find the modules configuration file?
[09:33] <arrick> I need to configure my ubuntu/apache2 server with M$ Frontpage 2002 Extension support, and any help would be appreciated.
[09:33] <Sven_vB> is there a daemon that accepts TCP connections, ignores any data received and basically just waits for the client to terminate the connection?
[09:33] <TheUni> cool thanks
[09:34] <mythica> can i just put the stuff in any file in the /etc/modprobe.d/ directory ?
[09:34] <bbrazil> Sven_vB: what are you trying to do?
[09:34] <polpak> ctothej: lsmod should show it
[09:34] <biovore> Sven_vB: Windows servers  :-P
[09:34] <Sven_vB> bbrazil: i want to be detected by port scanners
[09:34] <JarG0n> Also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VNC
[09:34] <ctothej> polpak, "sudo modprobe -a fglrx" returned Device not found
[09:34] <freakynl> dxdemetriou: sorry dunno not familiar with fedora :) i just include the drivers in my kernels
[09:34] <bbrazil> Sven_vB: inetd has a null service
[09:34] <unen> anyone in here use cedega or any transgaming software?
[09:34] <devscott-laptop> mythica: sudo vi /etc/modules
[09:34] <Sven_vB> bbrazil: how do i activate it?
[09:34] <polpak> unen: yeah
[09:34] <mythica> cool thanks
[09:34] <biovore> Sven_vB: you can create a simple perl script that dose that..
[09:35] <bbrazil> Sven_vB: check /etc/inetd.conf, I forget the syntax
[09:35] <unen> polpak: do u know if the timedemo still works?
[09:35] <Sven_vB> biovore: i have written TCP servers in Perl. i know what "simple" means :>
[09:35] <polpak> unen: no idea
[09:35] <devscott-laptop> !beer
[09:35] <ubotu> devscott-laptop: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:35] <green_earz> arrick: sarge is built on the stable section of debian where as breezy gets its packages from the unstable section of debian
[09:35] <XiXaQ> ompaul, no. I was told that if the installation doesn't succeed, then there has to be something wrong with the cd. Therefore I wanted to get another copy, make __SURE__ it is written correctly to the medium and try that instead. I'm downloading 6.06 now.
[09:35] <mythica> devscott-laptop, Hmm, that seems different though, that just has a few modules in it
[09:35] <Sven_vB> bbrazil: thx
[09:35] <unen> polpak: what games do u play on it? any that use punkbuster, ive been told its screwed up
[09:35] <mythica> devscott-laptop, i am following an install guide, and they want me to add a whole lot of stuff
[09:36] <devscott-laptop> mythica: what are you looking for?
[09:36] <mythica> devscott-laptop, ill throw it in pastebin
[09:36] <arrick> green_earz, then would the instructions for Sarge with apache2 work in breezy?
[09:36] <Sven_vB> can i decide on which port(s) the null service shall listen?
[09:36] <polpak> unen: just starcraft & warcraft
[09:36] <devscott-laptop> !ubotu
[09:36] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[09:36] <green_earz> arrick: yes
[09:36] <polpak> unen: Most of the games I play are native
[09:36] <mythica> http://pastebin.com/690897
[09:36] <unen> polpak: any WoW?
[09:36] <freakynl> TheUni: http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.unix.apache2.php point 14-16
[09:36] <mythica> take a look there, thats the instructions
[09:36] <polpak> unen: no, but I've heard it works fine
[09:36] <arrick> thanks green_earz
[09:36] <green_earz> np
[09:36] <devscott-laptop> mythica: what are you trying to do?
[09:37] <kbrooks> join #ubuntu-doc
[09:37] <unen> polpak: k, thx... at least i know that cedega DOES in fact work on ubuntu distro now
[09:37] <mythica> install drivers
[09:37] <kbrooks> er sry :-)
[09:37] <XiXaQ> ompaul, it would be of -great- help if I could get a list of md5 sums for the cd, not only the iso. I can never be 100% certain that it has written the iso without any error, unless I have md5 for all the files. that feature should be the first thing the installer does, imho.
[09:37] <mythica> devscott-laptop, should i paste the whole install guide?
[09:37] <devscott-laptop> no
[09:37] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: first thing?
[09:37] <mythica> k
[09:37] <devscott-laptop> mythica: are they compiled against the kernel?
[09:38] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: what do you mean?
[09:38] <mythica> yup
[09:38] <steffi> xqzme, I get this : sudo: unable to lookup Highfield via gethostbyname() ..I delete the hostnames in networking.. How can I fix it?
[09:38] <XiXaQ> kbrooks, at least the installation should make sure it is able to read the disk before it removes your current operating system.
[09:38] <devscott-laptop> and you can insert them manually and they work ?
[09:38] <steffi> I can not run any sudo commands
[09:38] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: easy question: why?
[09:38] <polpak> ctothej: what is the output of uname -r ?
[09:38] <devscott-laptop> !insmod
[09:38] <ubotu> devscott-laptop: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:39] <ctothej> polpak, 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic
[09:39] <polpak> steffi: you need to reboot with a rescue terminal
[09:39] <polpak> ctothej: oh
[09:39] <polpak> ctothej: that explains it
[09:39] <steffi> polpak, explain me plz
[09:39] <ubuntu> nick ben
[09:39] <polpak> steffi: when you reboot, at the grub menu select rescue terminal
[09:39] <XiXaQ> kbrooks, why? I installed windows, downloaded ubuntu. Wrote ubuntu installation to cd, rebooted and installed ubuntu. The installation chrashed. I now have no operating system. I had to reinstall windows just to download and write another copy of ubuntu to cd...  Every OS installation should check it's main media first.
[09:40] <steffi> polpak, and then, what I do?
[09:40] <mythica> devscott-laptop, any ideas? I just need to know where the modules configuration file resides in ubuntu
[09:40] <polpak> steffi: you need to put back the hostname
[09:40] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: ah
[09:40] <steffi> polpak, how?
[09:40] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: um, windows doesnt
[09:40] <XiXaQ> kbrooks, ubuntu is the only linux distro I know that doesn't do it.
[09:40] <silje_> HEllo!:)
[09:40] <XiXaQ> kbrooks, I know.
[09:40] <H_Bug> I'm trying to view the files on my *nix box via my network, the computer im viewing from is a widowz box. A error comes up saying that i dont have permission to use the network resource..
[09:41] <polpak> steffi: what did you delete?
[09:41] <devscott-laptop> mythica: I believe modules.conf if dead, long live /etc/modules.
[09:41] <silje_> Hello People!:D
[09:41] <McKinney> i have a little question and i hope someone can help me
[09:41] <steffi> polpak, btw I have no rescue menu in Grab .. I have to boot the safe mode (i think) and then it ask me to log in for maintance
[09:41] <corey> !justask
[09:41] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[09:41] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: i think i can write a md5 catalog program :P
[09:41] <polpak> steffi: did you make a root password?
[09:41] <steffi> polpak, I open the networking menu from Gnome.. and I delete all the hosts names
[09:42] <steffi> polpak, yea I have pass for root
[09:42] <delcoyote> hi all
[09:42] <silje_> Hi! Wazzup?!:P
[09:42] <mythica> but /etc/modules just looks like where the actual modules are loaded - not their configs ?
[09:42] <polpak> steffi: then type in that password
[09:42] <malling> Hi
[09:42] <green_earz> arrick: here a good video of mark shuttleworth talking about ubuntu and debian relationship > http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2005/debconf5/mpeg/2005-07-14/02-Ubuntu_Talk-Mark_Shuttleworth.mpeg
[09:42] <XiXaQ> kbrooks, to check the sums of all files actually written to the cd? That would be great.
[09:42] <jetscreamer> you add the params after
[09:42] <H_Bug> I'm reading the /etc/samba/smb.conf file and i don't see anything that could solve this//
[09:42] <munzir> Hi how can I tell whether my OS is 32-bit or 64-bit?
[09:42] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: no. md5sum can do that though
[09:42] <silje_> Is it any norwiegian people hier??:P
[09:43] <arrick> green_earz, I just need to get the frontpage extension support going on here
[09:43] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: after a ... mount of the iso
[09:43] <silje_> Im not good in english!:P
[09:43] <devscott-laptop> mythica: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1994.html
[09:43] <XiXaQ> kbrooks, oh, you meant a program to check the cd before the installation begins? Yes, do that. It's a MUST.
[09:43] <polpak> !no
[09:43] <ubotu> polpak: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:43] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: md5sum fulfills that
[09:43] <polpak> hrm
[09:43] <steffi> polpak, type the passwd where?
[09:44] <polpak> steffi: when it asks you to log in for maintenance
[09:44] <silje_> GoodBye People...:P HEhe..See yah!:)
[09:44] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: but  the md5 check might as well be done manually
[09:44] <steffi> ok polpak ..but then what I have to do?
[09:44] <devscott-laptop> !penguins
[09:44] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, devscott-laptop
[09:44] <XiXaQ> kbrooks, but what if the cd has been damaged? Perhaps almost all of the cd is ok, except one small critical file which makes the installation chrash? It would be nice if you COULD check the cd from the installation program.
[09:45] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: i'll talk in -dev about this (please join)
[09:45] <steffi> polpak, I just need to run a configuration about my network.. is any command to do that?
[09:45] <XiXaQ> kbrooks?
[09:45] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: oops, -devel
[09:45] <McKinney> is there someone who can help me with xfce?
[09:45] <polpak> ctothej: When you did the installation, did you install linux-686, or did you install linux-amd64-generic ?
[09:45] <mythica> devscott-laptop, heh i was busy reading that now
[09:45] <mythica> devscott-laptop, (before u posted it) :p
[09:46] <ctothej> polpak, amd64-generic
[09:46] <devscott-laptop> mythica: great minds google alike :)
[09:46] <mythica> hehe
[09:46] <ctothej> i have an amd64 x2 processor
[09:46] <mythica> "all the files inside /etc/modprobe.d comprise modprobe.conf. Stick it in any one you want, then run update-modules."
[09:46] <kman> I have a WPA question, any takers?
[09:46] <polpak> ctothej: ok, well I'm really not sure how to get it working with 64 bit arch
[09:46] <mythica> so can I just make a file called "local" and throw that in /etc/modprobe.d
[09:47] <devscott-laptop> mythica: sounds like it. *crosses his fingers*
[09:47] <polpak> ctothej: I generally recommend ppl with 64 bit processors just use 32 bit arch for now. as 64 bit arch support just isn't quite there yet.
[09:47] <mythica> ok then i just gotta run update-modules
[09:47] <polpak> steffi: you need to edit /etc/hosts
[09:47] <mythica> devscott-laptop, hmm, dont think it worked
[09:47] <polpak> steffi: you can do that with  nano /etc/hosts
[09:47] <steffi> polpak, edit and write what?
[09:48] <ctothej> polpak, ill have to download the x86 iso right? can i just change it from here?
[09:48] <polpak> steffi: what is your hostname
[09:48] <steffi> polpak, my hosts is empty
[09:48] <polpak> ctothej: I'm really not sure
[09:48] <kman> [RESENDING]  I have a WPA question, any takers?
[09:48] <polpak> ctothej: the safest way would be to get the iso and reinstall
[09:48] <ctothej> polpak, ill give it a shot, thanks
[09:48] <polpak> steffi: I know  that.. what's your hostname
[09:48] <devscott-laptop> mythica: wife needs me, brb
[09:48] <polpak> steffi: it's empty cause you deleted all the entries
[09:49] <steffi> polpak, I get this: sudo: unable to lookup Highfield via gethostbyname()
[09:49] <steffi> polpak, I guess my host name is Highfield
[09:50] <polpak> steffi: then you need a line that says :     <IP_ADDRESS>       localhost.localdomain   localhost       Highfield
[09:50] <polpak> steffi: no spaces at the beginning of the line though
[09:50] <steffi> ok I try ..I tried to do that, but I put them in wrong order
[09:50] <steffi> thanx polpak
[09:50] <crunchyfish> has anyone had a problem with the dapper livecd during setup that says "hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit?", and it'll post that error a few times and then finally boot, and as soon as the desktop shows up the pc will either freeze or reboot?
[09:51] <edgardpacheco> hello poeple
[09:51] <H_Bug> I'm trying to view the files on my *nix box via my network, the computer im viewing from is a widowz box. A error comes up saying that i dont have permission to use the network resource..
[09:51] <H_Bug> I'm trying to view the files on my *nix box via my network, the computer im viewing from is a widowz box. A error comes up saying that i dont have permission to use the network resource..
[09:51] <edgardpacheco> people
[09:51] <polpak> steffi: once you have that line there you can restart and sudo should work
[09:51] <edgardpacheco> where i can find the  libstdc++.so.5 package?
[09:52] <steffi> polpak, it worked thanx.. but before I had a lot of hosts ..that probabbly ubuntu create it by default.. How I can I create them again?
[09:52] <TheUni> is there a free/opensource alternative to a program like DirectAdmin?
[09:53] <mythica> how would i check the results of update-modules
[09:53] <mythica> i added some stuff and want to see what its doing
[09:53] <edgardpacheco> anyone knows where i can find the  libstdc++.so.5 package??
[09:53] <corey> edgardpacheco, Synaptic?
[09:53] <polpak> steffi: the other entries are just for ipv6, you don't need to worry about them
[09:53] <steffi> polpak, a million thanx.. c yaa
[09:54] <polpak> steffi: =)
[09:55] <kman> I use ndiswrapper to load an ms driver for my wifi card. problem: when booting with the card nothing happens after i login (i see the background and nothing happens) if on the other hand i boot without the card ubuntu loads ok (then i plug the wifi nic in and restart netwroking services and all is OK)
[09:56] <Kujass> hello :)
[09:56] <Tedd> 'lo Kujass. What can we help you with?
[09:56] <anthony> How do I install my NVIDIA Drivers pls?
[09:56] <kbrooks> Seveas?
[09:56] <ccc_> !nvidia
[09:56] <ubotu> Please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:57] <kman> how about me???
[09:57] <kbrooks> Seveas: someone named "kujass" is here.
[09:57] <Seveas> kbrooks, so?
[09:57] <kbrooks> Seveas: isnt "ass" offensive?
[09:57] <Seveas> sure
[09:57] <scifi> how do i update my gnome build ?
[09:57] <edgardpacheco> !tell anthony nvidia
[09:57] <kbrooks> Seveas: "sure"?
[09:57] <highvoltage> depends whos it is
[09:57] <Seveas> but why would kujass be offensive?
[09:58] <kbrooks> Seveas: his nickname is offensive
[09:58] <Seveas> I disagree
[09:58] <kbrooks> how come?
[09:58] <Seveas> then DickTracy would be offensive too
[09:58] <Seveas> whilst Dick Tracy is a really cool guy
[09:58] <jakobjs> !automatix
[09:58] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[09:59] <jakobjs> !easyubuntu
[09:59] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[10:00] <corey> anyone know if its possible to change your darn buddy icon in gaim? i cant find it for the life of me
[10:00] <Seveas> corey, tools  accounts, select account, hit modif
[10:00] <Seveas> y
[10:00] <scifi> how do i update my gnome build ?
[10:01] <corey> haha im an idiot, thanks Seveas
[10:01] <kbrooks> corey: :)
[10:01] <Pf123> Q:  I'm trying to install ubuntu, and it finds one harddrive, but the the harddirve I want to install ubuntu on
[10:01] <ChangerOfSea> hi, I dunno if this is an ubuntu problem or gnome, but when i log in, it takes at least 2 min where it used to take < 30 seconds
[10:01] <Seveas> corey, 90% of the people can't find it - gaim is hopelessly unintuitive at times
[10:02] <corey> :P
[10:02] <ChangerOfSea> anyone know of a reason for this?
[10:02] <Pf123> I unplugged my other harddirve.
[10:02] <corey> its tricky
[10:02] <ChangerOfSea> and everything else goes as fast as i remember it..
[10:02] <Seveas> ChangerOfSea, added a lot to your panel?
[10:03] <Pf123> can anyone help me?
[10:03] <aze45> ompaul: same problem as before
[10:03] <Pf123> Q:  I'm trying to install ubuntu, and it finds one harddrive, but the the harddirve I want to install ubuntu on
[10:03] <ChangerOfSea> Seveas: no it seems to happen when i tried to "save current setup"
[10:03] <Pf123> can anyone help me?
[10:03] <aze45> can't login to wiki, don't understand why
[10:04] <Pf123> I unplugged my other harddirve.
[10:04] <aze45> ompaul: have recover my password, have reset my passwords on moz, my cookies, have checked my new password, and still an error "wrong password", it drives me nuts and i can't understand why
[10:04] <Das-Herrkurm> when i try to delete a folder with rm comman it tells me taht i cant delete it, its a directory. :x how do i delete a whole directorys??
[10:05] <ic56> Pf123: repeat the question please
[10:05] <Pf123> Q:  I'm trying to install ubuntu, and it finds one harddrive, but the the harddirve I want to install ubuntu on
[10:05] <Pf123> I unplugged my other harddirve.
[10:05] <corey> rm -d
[10:05] <Das-Herrkurm> ill try ity
[10:05] <Das-Herrkurm> thx
[10:05] <_jason> Das-Herrkurm: rm -r
[10:05] <aze45> any idea where i can found a wiki admin? or an email where i can write?
[10:05] <Pf123> I unplug my harddrive i dont want it to install on, and it doesnt see it....so I cant partition it
[10:06] <Das-Herrkurm> gosh, i had forgotten the flag -r, thansk a lot :D
[10:06] <Pf123> or format it for ubuntu
[10:06] <CaBlGuY> greetings peeps...
[10:06] <ChangerOfSea> Seveas: suggestions?
[10:06] <[itrebal] > i'm trying to get ssl libraries for compiling Gaim, and i've gotten most things i could think about, but its still not wrokgin out
[10:06] <ic56> Pf123: you want to install ubuntu on one harddrive.  You have disconnected the other harddrive from your system.  Do I have this right?
[10:06] <[itrebal] > anyone know which ones tog et?
[10:06] <Seveas> ChangerOfSea, system  preferences  sessions, disable some things
[10:06] <Pf123> Yes, i have a 250gb harddirve (with windows) and a 80gb harddrive, i wish to format and install ubuntu on the 80
[10:07] <immolo> Pf123, then just install on the 80gb and don't change any settings on the 250 one
[10:07] <[itrebal] > Pf123: make sure that windows is first on the drive, and if its not, it can read (has native support for) anything before it in the partition table
[10:07] <Pf123> I cant install on the 80
[10:08] <Pf123> i completely unplugged my 250gb, so it doesnt see it anymore
[10:08] <scifi> how do i update my gnome build ?
[10:08] <Pf123> but i mean, it doesnt find my 80gb hardrive, and i just tell it to install
[10:08] <axisys> hello all
[10:08] <Pf123> I get "No root file system is defined.  Please corret this from the partitioning menu"
[10:08] <ic56> Pf123: does your computer's BIOS find your 80G harddrive?
[10:08] <axisys> anyone know how to use neatreceipts scanalizer?
[10:08] <Pf123> It should, let me check
[10:09] <bernard__> hello
[10:09] <axisys> it is connected to my laptop thru usb
[10:09] <Pf123> yes, it says that its primary slave
[10:09] <bernard__> hello how to install java in linux plz
[10:09] <_jason> ubotu: tell bernard__ about java
[10:10] <Das-Herrkurm> sudo apt-get install j2re
[10:10] <Mysta> hello, does nano have syntax highlighting?
[10:10] <ic56> Pf123: during the Ubuntu install process, when it comes time to partition the harddrives, did you use manual or automatic partitioning?
[10:10] <bernard__> jason do you know?
[10:10] <Das-Herrkurm> bernard__:  open your console and type sudo apt-get install j2re
[10:10] <hollywoodb> Mysta: no
[10:10] <Pf123> it doesnt let me select automatic, only manual
[10:11] <kman> I use ndiswrapper to load an ms driver for my wifi card. problem: when booting with the card nothing happens after i login (i see the background and nothing happens) if on the other hand i boot without the card ubuntu loads ok (then i plug the wifi nic in and restart netwroking services and all is OK)
[10:11] <_jason> bernard__: ubotu should have sent you a private message with the information, be sure to type back to ubotu and say 'javadebs' for more information
[10:11] <CaBlGuY> !tell me about updates
[10:11] <Mysta> hollywoodb: thanks, what about vi?
[10:11] <bernard__> tanks
 hi
 i copied greek filenames from ntfs partitioons to extt3
 but they look like this
 ???????.txt
 why?
[10:11] <Das-Herrkurm> ubotu is a bot, am i right? :D
[10:11] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Das-Herrkurm
[10:11] <Pf123> look, what i do is select language, where im from, heybaord...they it starts detecting everything
[10:11] <ic56> Pf123: good, manual gives flexibility. Now, what drive name does the partitioning screen display?  hda? hdb?
[10:12] <_jason> nikosgr: do not paste please and refrain from using enter as punctuation.  Thanks
[10:12] <[itrebal] > i'm trying to install SSL libraries for compiling gaim-2.0.0-dev beta2 (3 maybe?) and during the configure process it cannot find them, i've tried installing several things related to it but i've not found what exactly i need, any ideas?
[10:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell Das-Herrkurm about yourself
[10:12] <Pf123> well, after i select manual
[10:12] <Olde_Harold> brb...........need a coffee
[10:12] <scifi> pls someone ?
[10:13] <_jason> [itrebal] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompileGaim?highlight=%28gaim%29
[10:13] <carsten> Sorry, I am really not sure. Is this a "valid" Upstream Version Freeze exception  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gramps/+bug/42270     I just filed it but am not sure...
[10:13] <Pf123> it says "Configure software RAID""Configure the logical volume manager""guided partitioning""help on partitioning"
[10:13] <nikosgr> ?
[10:13] <axisys> xsane scan does not recognize my scanner
[10:13] <_jason> scifi: what do you mean?
[10:13] <Pf123> and undo changes to partitions, also finish partitining and write changes to disk
[10:13] <scifi> how do i update to gnome 2.14?
[10:13] <_jason> scifi: gnome2.14 is available only in dapper
[10:13] <scifi> hmmm :*(
[10:14] <ic56> Pf123: it's skipping a step because it thinks it's already been done.
[10:14] <Pf123> when i had my 250gb harddrive plugged it, i believe it was on that list to select it...my 80gb does not show up
[10:14] <nikosgr> why cant i se greek in kosole?
[10:14] <Pf123> so should I click go back?
[10:14] <arrick> [itrebal] , you need to change your name to something easier to type
[10:14] <Pf123> I click go back, and the step before that says detect hardware
[10:14] <[itrebal] > arrick: sorry, i'm a tor user and its... banned for this channel so i'm using an alternate nick
[10:14] <ic56> Pf123: clicking back won't solve it, rebooting would but, presumably you've tried that already
[10:14] <Olde_Harold> i'm just about ready to scream at macromedia flash player downloads
[10:14] <Pf123> yes, tried it multiple times :\
[10:15] <_jason> Olde_Harold: hmm? what's happening?
[10:15] <Olde_Harold> won't download
[10:15] <|lostbyte|> That sexy boot screen, which file decides it, GRUB ?
[10:15] <arrick> I need to configure my ubuntu/apache2 server with M$ Frontpage 2002 Extension support, and any help would be appreciated. The Sarge directions dont work
[10:15] <ChangerOfSea> Seveas: hey.. its taking even longer now
[10:16] <Olde_Harold> says download not available
[10:16] <ChangerOfSea> Seveas: is there a way i can totally reset that configuration
[10:16] <Pf123> so, does ubuntu just hate my harddrive? and i should stick to windows, or what?
[10:16] <KenSentMe> Olde_Harold, where is it trying to download from, what url?
[10:16] <Seveas> ChangerOfSea, rm ~/.gnome2/session
[10:16] <Olde_Harold> yes
[10:16] <kronoz> !mp3
[10:16] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:16] <ic56> Pf123: It's been a while since I've seen that menu so before we spend time hacking around, are you sure there's no drive mentioned on that screen (like hda, or hdb) and no mention of edit partitions, manual editing, anything like that?
[10:17] <Pf123> none
[10:17] <scifi> Jimmey_: the only icons in d3a i dont like are the up, reload and home icons in nautilus toolbar
[10:17] <KenSentMe> Olde_Harold, yes what?
[10:17] <Pf123> there is if i plug in my 250gb harddrive, but i wish to not format that one
[10:17] <Olde_Harold> ftdownload.macromedia.com
[10:17] <KenSentMe> try download.macromedia.com
[10:18] <KenSentMe> Olde_Harold, had that problem too and this url worked
[10:18] <KenSentMe> think it worked :)
[10:18] <ic56> Pf123: hmmm.  Connect your 250G harddrive and let's start from there.  It will be easier and it's where we want to end up anyway -- you don't want to have to unplug it every time you boot :-)
[10:18] <kbrooks> [itrebal] : !!!
[10:19] <Pf123> ok
[10:19] <gui> ae galera blz?
[10:19] <[itrebal] > hey kbrooks!
[10:19] <corey> Pf123, your problem is probably cause your 250gb is primary and it cant find it if its not plugged in
[10:19] <gui> to tentando desmontar um ipod mas ta dando o seguinte erro
[10:19] <tritium> !es
[10:19] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:19] <kbrooks> [itrebal] : you on gaim? thats odd. :-P
[10:19] <gui> eject: unable to eject, las erro Arguemnto invlido
[10:19] <ChangerOfSea> Seveas: thank you
[10:19] <Pf123> i switched the jumpers, the 80 should be primary
[10:19] <itrebal|tor> kbrooks: whys that :)
[10:20] <ic56> Pf123: wow. how will windows boot if it's disk isn't primary?
[10:20] <kbrooks> itrebal|tor: because i heard gaim had a sucky irc client :P j/k
[10:20] <Pf123> i jsut planned to switch jumpers all the time :|
[10:20] <corey> or you can use a thing called grub Pf123  :)
[10:20] <itrebal|tor> kbrooks: it *is* a sucky IRC client, but i use a ton of other protocols
[10:20] <Pf123> yea, but if i cant install ubuntu, theres no point in grub :\
[10:20] <ic56> Pf123: bad idea.  Both your drives are IDE right?
[10:21] <Pf123> 250gb is sata, 80gb is ide
[10:21] <ic56> Pf123: let me ask around a minute.
[10:22] <Pf123> im starting it up now, 250 in primary, and 80 in the other one
[10:22] <xerophyte> is there any replacement for the atalk on linux to share the file with mac os boxes ??
[10:23] <anthony> I have problems installing my NVIDIA driver. When I enable it my screen goes blank and stays there
[10:23] <Pf123> Yea, Erase entire disk: SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) - 250.1 GB ATA WDC WD2500J
[10:23] <ic56> Are there any gotchas with SATA drives in Ubuntu and do they cooperate with IDE drives on the same bus?
[10:23] <Pf123> Erase entire disk and use LVM.....
[10:23] <Pf123> it sees my 250, not my 80
[10:23] <scifi> anyway of renaming mounted ntfs drives on the desktop? ive tried ntfsprogs, but didnt work, gparted has a disklabler but it involves erasing all data on the disk. any other options ?
[10:24] <carthik> ic56, same bus?
[10:24] <anthony> can anyone help me pls? I have problems installing my driver nvidia
[10:24] <ic56> Pf123: is there a manually edit partitions option?
[10:24] <Pf123> yes
[10:24] <ic56> carthik: yes, same bus
[10:24] <_jason> anthony: are you following the wiki?
[10:24] <carthik> ic56, i have a sata drive and an ide drive - but dunno if they are on the same bus... dont remember.
[10:24] <anthony> yes I am
[10:24] <ic56> Pf123: take the manual option
[10:24] <Pf123> my 250gb is partitioned...i click the manual option
[10:24] <Pf123> it shows my 3 partitions from teh 250, does not show my 80
[10:24] <ic56> Pf123: what are their drive names? hda? hdc?
[10:24] <_jason> anthony: what card are you on and what step are you on?
[10:24] <anthony> _jason: yes I followed it exactly
[10:24] <ic56> carthik: what are their drive names? hda? hdc?
[10:25] <_jason> anthony: I mean: what card do you have?
[10:25] <anthony> Close all your applications, then press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to restart the X server. If you see an nVidia
[10:25] <ic56> Pf123: what exactly was the name of the manual option?
[10:25] <carthik> ic56, there's hda db and dc
[10:25] <anthony> Geforce 6200
[10:25] <_jason> anthony: k, what part of the wiki do you get up to?
[10:25] <Pf123> drives are called /media/sda1, sda2, sda3
[10:26] <anthony> step 16
[10:26] <ic56> carthik: do you know which is the SATA and which the IDE?  Presumably the 3rd is your CDROM?
[10:26] <Pf123> i think it was manually partition tables or something similar
[10:26] <axisys> !xsane
[10:26] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, axisys
[10:26] <scifi> anyway of renaming mounted ntfs drives on the desktop? ive tried ntfsprogs, but didnt work, gparted has a disklabler but it involves erasing all data on the disk. any other options ?
[10:26] <ic56> Pf123: please go back and tell me exactly what the name was.  It's been a while so I need you to refresh my memory and we don't want to make a mistake here.
[10:27] <Pf123> ill restart again :p
[10:27] <Pf123> give me a minute
[10:27] <anthony> _jason: Step 16...
[10:28] <ic56> scifi: by renaming you mean having them be mounted elsewhere?
[10:28] <_jason> anthony: ok, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , choose 'nv' as the video and lets see if we can figure out what went wrong once we get you back to X
[10:28] <capiCrimm> is there any way to change where Desktop points too. That is I'd prefer to use $HOME instead.
[10:28] <carthik> ic56, that's my desktop - sorry can't help right now
[10:28] <Pf123> it says "Manually edit partition table"
[10:29] <scifi> ic56: no i mean i want to change the name from hdb1 to NTFSMediaDrive or something like that
[10:29] <carthik> capiCrimm, use the gconf editor to enable desktop_is_home in nautilus
[10:29] <anthony> it tells me must login as root
[10:29] <_jason> anthony: yes, sorry it's: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:30] <ic56> scifi: where do you see "hdb1"?  It appears in many places.  It can be changed in some places but not in all places.
[10:30] <munzir> Hi, I installed dapper 32 in amd64 as chroot. uname -a shows 2.6.15-21-amd64-k8 #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Apr 21 16:47:57 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux, isn't this 64-bit?
[10:30] <capiCrimm> carthik, got it thanks
[10:30] <carthik> capiCrimm, i love that setting :)
[10:30] <scifi> ic56: its in nautilus, in places and on the desktop
[10:31] <carthik> capiCrimm, also, if you create a dir called "Documents" then a bookmark for that is automatically created. Which is another crowd favorite around my house
[10:31] <ic56> carthik: from a command line, type: dmesg  |grep hd.:   The output should refresh your memory
[10:31] <carthik> ic56, like I said that is on  my desktop which is geographically distant now :)
[10:31] <Pf123> ic56, be right back
[10:32] <ic56> scifi: yes, the drive "name" can be changed in those places.  You have 2 options: either mounted at a different mountpoint or else create a symbolic link by a different name to that mount point.
[10:33] <tjcracker> is the installer fix all that is new in beta 2
[10:33] <Orunitia> Is there a partitioner that will create an ntfs partition?
[10:33] <ic56> carthik: oh, I see. oh well.  BTW, the SATA drive is treated as SCSI eh?
[10:33] <scifi> ic56: ive tried symbolic links, but the default desktop links stay there as well, they cant be deleted
[10:34] <Wolvenhaven> !mounting
[10:34] <ubotu> Wolvenhaven: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:34] <carthik> I am not sure it it was hdc or sdc ic56
[10:34] <Pf|BRB> back
[10:34] <ic56> carthik: ok, thanks.
[10:34] <anthony> _jason: k did that
[10:34] <_jason> anthony: ok, so now you are in X?
[10:35] <sciyoshi> you can use fdisk to make a partition and mkfs.ntfs to make the filesystem on it
[10:35] <anthony> jason_: it quit automatic and returned to terminal
[10:35] <Wolvenhaven> how do i make my ntfs(windows) drive show up on ubuntu
[10:35] <unen> anyone in here use cedega or other transgaming software?
[10:35] <ic56> scifi: ok then, you prefer to mount at a different mount point.  Call on me when I'm done w/ carthik, if someone else hasn't helped you by then.
[10:35] <_jason> anthony: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[10:35] <sciyoshi> yea cedega
[10:36] <Pf123> i got a feeling i might just stick to windows :\
[10:36] <Wolvenhaven> lol
[10:36] <unen> sciyoshi: whatcha play on it, jc?
[10:36] <Wolvenhaven> im feeling that way too
[10:36] <sciyoshi> c+c generals mostly :-)
[10:36] <anthony> _jason: k did that
[10:36] <sciyoshi> except network doesnt work, so i just switch to win for that
[10:36] <Wolvenhaven> !wireless
[10:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[10:36] <_jason> anthony: ok, and X started fine?
[10:36] <unen> sciyoshi: hmm... has it worked well from ur experiences?
[10:36] <ic56> Pf123: ok, so you click on manual editing and only one drive is listed.  What is it's name again?
[10:36] <anthony> _jason: think so
[10:37] <Pf123> media/sda1, sda1, sda3
[10:37] <scifi> ic56: a different mount pnt i dont understand, i mounted them in /media, but the desktop icons were created automatically.
[10:37] <_jason> anthony: umm are you at the login screen?
[10:37] <Pf123> its my 250gb partitioned into 3
[10:37] <sciyoshi> better than vanilla wine
[10:37] <sciyoshi> :-)
[10:37] <sciyoshi> more support for directx i think
[10:37] <anthony> _jason: no in GNOME
[10:37] <unen> sciyoshi: so would u recommend it over a dual boot?
[10:37] <anthony> normal use
[10:37] <carthik> scifi, is that a fat32 drive that you want to change the label for? In any case, you can write a custom udev rule to have it mount at the same mount points. If it is a fat32 drive, you can change the volume label using mtools. http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/index.php?s=mtools
[10:37] <ic56> busy now, scifi, ask me later or ask others.
[10:37] <_jason> anthony: k, what does 'uname -r' say?
[10:37] <sciyoshi> meh, it depends what games you want to play
[10:38] <sciyoshi> what are you thinking about?
[10:38] <scifi> carthik: its an ntfs
[10:38] <mike10> hello guys can anybody help read my sd cards?
[10:38] <anthony> _jason: im new to linux, how do I check?
[10:38] <mike10> i have a laptop ibm x40
[10:38] <unen> sciyoshi: mostly bf42, bf2, wow, and oblivion, civ4, among others
[10:38] <ic56> Pf123: I'm thinking having both of them on the same bus may be a problem.
[10:38] <_jason> anthony: applications > accessories > terminal
[10:38] <_jason> uname -r is just a command
[10:38] <Pf123> yes, but unplugging my sata still doesnt make it show up
[10:38] <anthony> k
[10:38] <anthony> 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic
[10:39] <ic56> Pf123: did you get around to checking your BIOS?  Did it recognize both as primary & slave on the same bus?
[10:39] <anthony> _jason: it says
[10:39] <anthony> 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic
[10:39] <sciyoshi> hmm, i know wow and civ4 are supported, but it might take tweaking
[10:39] <carthik> scifi, easiest way: change the volume label for that drive in Windows (using windows). The next time you mount it, it will show up with that label (/medi/LABEL)
[10:39] <Pf123> yes
[10:39] <Pf123> right now, i switched the jumpers back..250 is primary, 80 is slav
[10:39] <Pf123> it works perfect with windows :\
[10:39] <scifi> hmmm
[10:39] <_jason> is linux-restricted-modules-386 the proper package for a 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic kernel?
[10:39] <unen> sciyoshi: damn... well, thats part of why i got into linux, to be on the frontier... so if it takes tweaking, then tweaking ill do!
[10:39] <sciyoshi> haha
[10:40] <ic56> Pf123: hmmm, you unplugged the SATA, and changed the jumpers on the IDE, remembered to connect both the power cord and the IDE ribbon cable to the IDE drive, and Ubuntu install still didn't see it?
[10:40] <Pf123> yes
[10:40] <unen> WHO WANTS TO SEE MORE GAMES NATIVE TO LINUX!
[10:40] <_jason> !caps
[10:40] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[10:40] <ic56> Pf123: and your BIOS *did* recognize it?
[10:40] <scifi> ME unen
[10:40] <Pf123> yes
[10:40] <anthony> 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic
[10:40] <GigaClon> me too unen
[10:40] <_jason> anthony: ok, let's assume it is... did you install linux-restricted-modules-386?
[10:41] <Pf123> if it to boot from harddrive, winxp will boot off the 80gb...but i want to reformat it, and get ubuntu on the 80
[10:41] <Nick_Hill> DAPPA bug: install not booting with i810 chipset. Is this a known bug/ where should I report it?
[10:41] <ic56> Pf123: like, you went in the auto-detect disks BIOS config option and you walked through it trying to detect each of the 4 drives?
[10:41] <unen> soon, soon the world will free itself from the chains of windows tyranny
[10:41] <anthony> I could;t find it
[10:41] <Pf123> that? no
[10:41] <anthony> there wasnt any
[10:41] <Pf123> bios just shows that my 80 would be in primary, i have no idea what you talked about there :S
[10:41] <_jason> anthony: ah that explains it, you need to enable the restricted repo, I'll send you a link in a second on how to do that
[10:41] <_jason> ubotu: tell anthony about repos
[10:42] <mike10> hay anybody help read my sd cards on my laptop card reader?
[10:42] <bcof> anybody have experience dual booting off an external hd?
[10:42] <anthony> tnx
[10:42] <anthony> ill try it
[10:42] <_jason> anthony: continue from step 11 in the guide once you install it
[10:42] <ic56> Pf123: bios showing it as primary doesn't prove the BIOS detected it.  It just means you manually told the BIOS it's there and the BIOS believed you.
[10:43] <Zarephath> I need to copy a small file to my ntfs partition...(yes I know this is risky)...I added umask=0222 and I can access the drive..but I still see the little lock icon on the hard drive folder?
[10:43] <Selophane> rob, u around?
[10:43] <anthony> if I have problems I tell you later...tnx
[10:43] <Nick_Hill> Given that I can;t file a bug with malone for a pre-install bug, where should I send it?
[10:43] <_jason> anthony: k
[10:43] <Nick_Hill> ..With Dappa
[10:43] <spectei> hey all, this is probably a really easy question but how do you get the libdvdcss pacakage ?
[10:43] <spectei> *package
[10:43] <_jason> !dvd
[10:43] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[10:43] <ic56> Pf123: reboot, go into the BIOS config menu, and, what brand of BIOS do you have?
[10:43] <Pf123> the harddrive is there, i can see it :p
[10:43] <spectei> thanks
[10:43] <jakl> where can i find a list of latest repositories for ubuntu^
[10:43] <jakl> ?
[10:43] <Pf123> via technologies
[10:44] <ic56> Pf123: very cute :-)
[10:44] <HunterZ> hi, in the amd64 ubuntu dapper have wmv codec?
[10:44] <ic56> Pf123: ok, does the menu have one or two columns?
[10:44] <Zarephath> jackl: easyubuntu
[10:44] <Pf123> 2 columns
[10:44] <bcof> where should I look for help with a broken GRUB?
[10:44] <_jason> !grub
[10:44] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[10:44] <Zarephath> !tell HunterZ about restricted
[10:44] <Nick_Hill> bcof, have you tried grub-install ?
[10:44] <ic56> Pf123: look in the right column.  Is there something about "detect drives"?
[10:45] <Pf123> nope
[10:45] <bcof> i installed it as part of the usual ubuntu instalation
[10:45] <Zarephath> HunterZ: Read through that page and you'll have your answer :-)
[10:45] <Pf123> should i go into advanced bios features?
[10:45] <mike10> anybody help read my sd cards on my laptop card reader?
[10:45] <grimboy> Hmm... aparantly I ought to have the file /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile from python, but I don't
[10:45] <ic56> Pf123: not advanced features
[10:45] <HunterZ> ok thx
[10:45] <slavik> what calender program can I use?
[10:45] <bcof> and then when i rebooted to continue the install, i get grub errors and i cant run windows or ubuntu
[10:45] <ic56> Pf123: let's walk through them.  this will get long winded so let's switch to a private channel.  How's #ic56?
[10:45] <_jason> slavik: evolution?
[10:45] <Nick_Hill> Where should I file pre-install bugs for Dappa?
[10:45] <Pf123> sure
[10:46] <slavik> _jason: without setting up email and such
[10:46] <Zarephath> Nick_Hill: Ask in #ubuntu+1 that is for Dapper questions
[10:46] <roryy> !bug
[10:46] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[10:46] <_jason> slavik: you can just use the calendar feature, that's all I use it for
[10:46] <Nick_Hill> Zarephath, Thanks
[10:46] <_jason> slavik: actually I use calendar.google.com and tell evolution to sync up with it
[10:46] <Zarephath> Nick_Hill: np
[10:47] <slavik> k
[10:47] <bcof> Nick_Hill: did you say you knew something about grubs?
[10:47] <mba> hey im new at ubuntu... how do i download codecs so i can do my music?
[10:47] <Nick_Hill> bcof, yes
[10:48] <Zarephath> mba: Check this out
[10:48] <_jason> ubotu: tell mba about multimedia
[10:48] <Zarephath> !tell mba about restricted
[10:48] <_jason> ubotu: tell mba about mp3
[10:48] <unen> wait, is there an mp3 codec for linux?
[10:48] <bcof> where would you advise I look to learn how to fix it?
[10:48] <polpak> unen: yes
[10:48] <Selophane> anyone here install ubuntu/kubuntu on a Compaq Presario M2000 series (M2010CA to be exact) with any success?
[10:49] <polpak> !tell unen about restricted
[10:49] <Selophane> i can't get the dang thing to stop freezing upon loading x-interface
[10:49] <grimboy> Hmm... aparantly I ought to have the file /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile from python, but I don't. Can anyone help? What package would I need to get to get this file?
[10:49] <unen> polpak: haha, ur quite a help... is it the one in automatix?
[10:49] <polpak> unen: no idea, I don't use automatix
[10:49] <Manifold> Jeez, so many people.
[10:49] <unen> polpak: hokie dokie
[10:49] <Plouj> this seems out of date: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Flash#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba
[10:50] <Selophane> i got the system to successfully boot a total of 1 times
[10:50] <gnomefreak> Plouj: why do you say that?
[10:50] <Plouj> where else can I download the w32codecs?
[10:50] <Plouj> gnomefreak: cuz when I try the wget command it says no such file
[10:50] <gnomefreak> Plouj: are you on 64bit kernel?
[10:50] <bcof> whats the difference between a GRUB and a LILO?
[10:50] <Plouj> no
[10:50] <slavik> bcof: grub is more recent I think
[10:50] <Plouj> plain 'ol 32bit system
[10:51] <capiCrimm> bconf, grub is a little pretties(GUI)
[10:51] <_jason> Plouj: works for me
[10:51] <gnomefreak> Plouj: the repo maybe being worked on
[10:51] <bcof> so you don't need both grub and lilo to install ubuntu?
[10:51] <ProN00b> ok, according to kernel logs, my webcam seems to have been detected, how can i get a test picture ?
[10:51] <Manifold> Nope.
[10:51] <gnomefreak> i did it 2 days ago and worked here too
[10:51] <gnomefreak> bcof: no
[10:52] <_jason> Plouj: I'll dcc it to you if you want but I just downloaded it
[10:52] <Shigutso> where can I find a DLL pack for Wine? Does this exist?
[10:52] <DaSkreech> Did someone ban wubrgamer?
[10:52] <grimboy> \q
[10:53] <bcof> is there anything I can do if the grub keeps havng errors when i start the computer, and won't load an operating system?
[10:53] <DaSkreech> He's sorry for his sins and would like to be admitted in the clan of #ubuntu again
[10:53] <arrick> rewrite the grub
[10:53] <bcof> by reinstalling?
[10:53] <arrick> just rewrite it
[10:53] <Plouj> _jason: don't bother, thanks. It appears that I typed it wrong.
[10:53] <bcof> i'm not sure what that entails
[10:53] <arrick> !grub
[10:53] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[10:54] <Shigutso> where can I find a DLL pack for Wine? Does this exist?
[10:54] <devscott-laptop> !lsmod
[10:54] <ubotu> devscott-laptop: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:54] <arrick> !wine
[10:54] <produkt> where can I find linux-headers-2.6.15-20-386???
[10:54] <bcof> thank you, i'll try that
[10:54] <arrick> !wine
[10:54] <Manifold> !dapper
[10:54] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[10:54] <steffi> anyone has gxine 0.5.6 installed?
[10:54] <anthony> _jason
[10:54] <parlament> can i try xfce and if i don't like it just deinstall it again?
[10:55] <_jason> ubotu: tell steffi about anyone
[10:55] <_jason> anthony: hi
[10:55] <anthony> i did that step and they didnt show up yet
[10:55] <Shigutso> where can I find a DLL Pack for Wine?
[10:55] <Apostle^> can anyone here help me with bluetooth
[10:55] <polpak> Shigutso: dll's for what?
[10:55] <_jason> anthony: please do this 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list', then copy and paste the contents of that file to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give us a link after you post it
[10:56] <gnomefreak> Shigutso: the exe should have the dll's needed for the app in it already
[10:56] <gnomefreak> if not windows needs to look over their freindliness
[10:56] <Shigutso> polpak, for programs... like my Photoshop 7 is asking for AGM.dll... but it already exists in its folder...
[10:56] <Shigutso> gnomefreak, i don't think so :/
[10:57] <polpak> Shigutso: perhaps you need to change the working directory when you run the program then?
[10:57] <_jason> can someone tell me what the proper linux-restricted-* package is needed to enable the nvidia drivers on a 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic kernel?
[10:58] <Apostle^> can somone help me with bluetooth please, my headset refuses to work, it says pairing not allowed on ubuntu
[10:58] <iceman> ok, anyone know how to mount a UNIX harddrive for read/Write from the live cd ?
[10:59] <mfatih> hi everybody
[10:59] <slavik> hmm, I connected my pda to my laptop, how do I pair it and such?
[10:59] <scenestar> hey hey
[10:59] <zith> is there a good way to have one of my computers' sound output to act as a sound card to other computers so i can play music over the network?
[10:59] <iceman> How to Mount this harddrive in READ?WRITE for modify ability
[10:59] <gnomefreak> _jason: sorry i have never used 64 bit but should be in synaptic
[10:59] <scenestar> i wrote a script that automatically installs all windows fonts for users
[11:00] <Apostle^> can somone help me with bluetooth please, my headset refuses to work, it says pairing not allowed on ubuntu
[11:00] <r0xoR> why would my screen resolution switch to 640x480 when i go to Applications->System Tools->New Login
[11:00] <scenestar> can someone help me find some space to host the fonts and the script?
[11:00] <deefzi> how can i get wmv-videos working :-/
[11:00] <Plouj> Apostle^: repeating your question isn't going to help you
[11:00] <scenestar> deefzi w32codecs
[11:00] <r0xoR> i've got my resolution set at 1600x1200 but when i go to New Login, the resolution for both GDM and the new login itself are set to 640x480
[11:00] <Tedd> deefzi, have you tried w32codecs
[11:00] <_jason> gnomefreak: hmm, trying to help anthony figure it out
[11:00] <mfatih> i have a problem with expresso
[11:00] <r0xoR> i went to the screen resolution panel on the new login but the only choice it has is 640x480
[11:00] <deefzi> scenestar & Tedd, yes.
[11:00] <r0xoR> anyone have any ideas?
[11:00] <Tedd> hm
[11:01] <dli> r0xoR, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:01] <gnomefreak> ok _jason one min i think i have something on that
[11:01] <r0xoR> dli, ok and what will that do?
[11:01] <r0xoR> dli, i did recompile my kernel from scratch, but i don't think that should have anything to do with it...
[11:01] <rem__> how do you detect a wifi pcmcia card when its not detected automatically ... ?
[11:01] <rem__> yes its compatible ..
[11:02] <dli> rem__, what's the card?
[11:02] <mba> i really suck at this...  can i download codecs for the torren movieplayer?
[11:02] <slavik> how do I access my PDA?
[11:02] <rem__> surecom
[11:02] <slavik> it's connected and configured according to dmesg
[11:02] <gnomefreak> _jason: maybe linux-restricted-modules-k8???
[11:03] <mirak> hi
[11:03] <mfatih> i have a problem with expresso. the problem is grub..
[11:03] <mfatih> i can try to mount my disk & chroot to my base partition. my disk is hda but grub-install return this error `/dev/hda: Not found or not a block device.`
[11:03] <mfatih> how can i fix this grub problem :(
[11:03] <gnomefreak> _jason: assuming k8 is the only 64 bit kernel
[11:03] <scenestar> ok
[11:03] <_jason> gnomefreak: I'm going to go with linux-restricted-modules-amd64-generic .  I was using apt-cache but amd64 packages don't show up there, so I went to packages.ubuntu.com :P
[11:03] <scenestar> so i see noone is any good to me here
[11:03] <scenestar> have fun noobies
[11:04] <rem__> rt 2500 chipset, surecom ep-9428-g pcmcia wifi card
[11:04] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[11:04] <dli> rem__, you have pcmcia detected? "lsmod"
[11:04] <iceman> Help please, how to mount a UNIX "OPENSTEP" harddrive from the live cd ... i need read write access ... PLease
[11:05] <bruceleen> buonasera a tutti
[11:06] <r0xoR> dli, so you're saying the problem is somewhere in my xorg.conf?
[11:06] <dli> r0xoR, yes
[11:06] <r0xoR> dli, i don't see why i should need to re-set up the mouse and keyboard and stuff and all that...
[11:06] <mythica> hi guys
[11:06] <mythica> how would i go about installing my Sunix Pci to PC Card adapter?
[11:06] <mythica> I assume I need drivers for it?
[11:06] <r0xoR> dli, got any idea what part of my xorg.conf isn't configured correctly?
[11:06] <hrach> q
[11:07] <Rhisc> hey
[11:07] <Blissex> mythica: either they are already in the kernel or ad luck.
[11:07] <jakobjs> anyone else having this problem with Dapper Beta2 + Xgl CVS (using beerorkid.com rep) : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=972093#post972093
[11:07] <Blissex> mythica: hope that it uses the same PCMCIA chipset that most laptops use.
[11:07] <Blissex> mythica: in that case the drivers are already in the kernel.
[11:07] <jakobjs> I can't install xserver-xgl cos it conflicts with the base package :(
[11:08] <Blissex> jakobjs: you are lucky :-).
[11:08] <mythica> ok
[11:08] <jakobjs> blissex: lucky?
[11:08] <mythica> *ulp*
[11:08] <mythica> otherwise im screwed?
[11:08] <Blissex> mythica: most likely...
[11:08] <iceman> Command line from live cd to mount a UNIX harddrive ? PLease ?
[11:08] <Blissex> mythica: but try :-). Make sure you use 'lspci' to check the type of chipset.
[11:08] <jakobjs> blissex: what do u mean?
[11:09] <r0xoR> dli, http://pastebin.com/691080
[11:09] <MisterN> re
[11:09] <r0xoR> dli, that's my current xorg.conf
[11:09] <r0xoR> everything looks just fine to me
[11:09] <Blissex> jakobjs: the package system is preventing you from installing unreliable bleeding edge pointless glitzy stuff :-)
[11:09] <mythica> hmm
[11:09] <mythica> dont see anything under lspci that could be it...
[11:09] <Blissex> iceman: 'man 8 mount' or something like 'mount -t auto /dev/hdaN /mnt/hdaN'
[11:10] <r0xoR> i honestly don't see how reconfiguring xorg.conf is going to solve my problem... i don't need a gui tool to understand my xorg.conf ...
[11:10] <immolo> Blissex, but eyes need candy too
[11:10] <r0xoR> i'd rather understand the actual problem
[11:10] <Blissex> immolo: for eye candy I prefer HorOrNot.com :-)
[11:10] <hrach> Hallo, can I install  original driver from NVIDIA to Dapper?
[11:11] <dli> hrach, "original"?
[11:11] <r0xoR> ie, if running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg *will* solve my problem then *why* does it solve the problem? and why can't i just add or change what i need to by hand
[11:11] <Blissex> hrach: probably, not necessarily a good idea.
[11:11] <sword-> mplayer tends to slow down when i move a window in the background
[11:11] <sword-> how do i resolve that
[11:11] <r0xoR> hrach, easyubunty
[11:11] <r0xoR> hrach, easyubuntu, sry
[11:11] <Blissex> r0xoR: wait a moment, whats your problem?
[11:11] <sword-> for example if a firefox page is loading, mplayer will slow down
[11:11] <hrach> Blissex, why not good idea?
[11:11] <dli> sword-, mplayer video window to background?
[11:11] <bbrazil> sword-: turn on frame skipping
[11:12] <r0xoR> Blissex, upon Applications->System Tools->New Login the resolution of my screen gets switched to 640x480 when GDM comes on
[11:12] <hrach> it works on debian well
[11:12] <Bilange> anyone has some experience with TV Tuners under ubuntu?
[11:12] <bbrazil> sword-: I think it's "s"
[11:12] <sword-> dli, it just skips etc
[11:12] <sword-> bbrazil, ?
[11:12] <_jason> sword-: you could try give it a lower nice value?
[11:12] <sword-> let me check
[11:12] <r0xoR> Blissex, my current resolution is set at 1600x1200 and it's running there quite nicely
[11:12] <sword-> i'm using kubuntu
[11:12] <iceman> wow colse to mountiging ... "you must specify the file system type ?
[11:12] <r0xoR> Blissex, this didn't happen last time i installed ubuntu
[11:13] <bbrazil> sword-: frameskipping means it won't try to render every frame, it'll skip them to keep up time wise
[11:13] <Blissex> r0xoR: it would be more interesting to see the log -- also more details as to the system, like card and number of screens etc.
[11:13] <r0xoR> Blissex, but i have recompiled my kernel from scratch... so that *might* have something to do with it, though my my machine runs my personal login at 1600x1200 it doesn't make sense why it would switch to 640x480
[11:13] <iceman> Blissex tried to mount, but it says i must specify the file system type
[11:13] <r0xoR> Blissex, http://pastebin.com/691080
[11:13] <r0xoR> my current xorg.conf
[11:13] <Blissex> iceman: so specify it...
[11:13] <r0xoR> Blissex, where are the logs i should be looking at?
[11:13] <sword-> bbrazil, i don't see that option
[11:13] <sword-> all i see is
[11:14] <Blissex> r0xoR: I had a look at it, the log would be more interesting... '/var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[11:14] <iceman> Blissix ? im still a newb at command line
[11:14] <sword-> enable double buffering, enable direct rendering, enable frame droppng
[11:14] <arrick> hey Blissex whats up
[11:14] <bbrazil> sword-: I've never actually using the gui, only the cli for mplayer
[11:14] <Talisker> hello, I have a .deb file which should be installed. dpkg install foo.deb should work, but it doesn't
[11:14] <arrick> hey nickrud you there?
[11:14] <Talisker> The damn thing asks me for options and shit
[11:14] <Blissex> iceman: well, I don't know what type of filesystem you are trying to mount.
[11:14] <arrick> anyone here ever see this computer before at this site?
[11:14] <arrick> http://www.bbspot.com/News/2000/7/new_macs.html
[11:15] <dli> sword-, using -vo xv ?
[11:15] <ubijtsa> Talisker: try dpkg -i package.deb
[11:15] <iceman> Blissex its "bsd" unix based .... Openstep... filesysystem ...
[11:15] <r0xoR> Blissex, xorg log file: http://pastebin.com/691091
[11:15] <Talisker> thanks
[11:15] <HaxoR91> hello there
[11:15] <Blissex> iceman: BSD, Linux, OpenStep are all UNIX clones...
[11:15] <dli> sword-, good idea, try "mplayer" instead "gmplayer"
[11:15] <HaxoR91> how much is wine cedega?
[11:16] <ubijtsa> Blissex: for some value of..
[11:16] <iceman> It's open step filesystem .. openstep installed on the drive ..
[11:16] <biovore> HaxoR91: subscription based
[11:16] <HaxoR91> for gaming
[11:16] <biovore> HaxoR91: I think its lke $30 a month..
[11:16] <HaxoR91> wow why?
[11:16] <Blissex> ubijtsa: pretty close to 1 actually -- they are all just about POSIX compliant :-)
[11:16] <HaxoR91> i want to get steampowered running on ubuntu
[11:16] <HaxoR91> but cant
[11:16] <r0xoR> HaxoR91, i thought it was a lot cheaper
[11:16] <unen> wait
[11:16] <btaylor5619> Can anyone here help me with the answer to a question?
[11:16] <r0xoR> HaxoR91, i thought it was like $6
[11:16] <unen> cedega is $5 a month
[11:16] <dreamthief> lol
[11:16] <r0xoR> yeah i thought so
[11:16] <HaxoR91> really?
[11:16] <unen> yeah
[11:16] <biovore> HaxoR91: its subscription.. for 3 months or something like, where you get all the updates and all
[11:16] <r0xoR> HaxoR91, i'm pretty sure yeah
[11:17] <dreamthief> yes, it's only 5$
[11:17] <unen> but its debatable whether its better than just a dual boot with windows
[11:17] <HaxoR91> can you send me a link pleasE?
[11:17] <r0xoR> cedega.com
[11:17] <biovore> www.transgamming.com
[11:17] <unen> www.transgaming.com
[11:17] <dreamthief> ^^
[11:17] <iceman> Blissex how to mount "openstep" harddrive for read / write ?
[11:17] <arrick> !justask
[11:17] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[11:17] <Blissex> iceman: probably not possible in read-write, probably possible only read-only.
[11:18] <iceman> Blissex ... well worthe trying ...
[11:18] <Blissex> iceman: also, usually BSD based systems use a different partitioning scheme from PC based ones, so perhaps you need to take that into account too.
[11:18] <btaylor5619> Is it possible to add a software source, outside those known to Ubuntu, to the Synaptic Package Manager?
[11:18] <Blissex> iceman: but try with '-t ufs'
[11:18] <dli> icewan openstep uses ufs
[11:18] <iceman> Blissex it's OpenStep installed to a PC .. INTEL
[11:18] <r0xoR> Blissex, so how interesting is that xorg log? cuz i can't really make heads nor tails of it
[11:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> btaylor5619: yes, just add the line to /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:18] <Blissex> iceman: same...
[11:19] <btaylor5619> Right.  I'll see what I can find.
[11:19] <mythica> how would i find the chipset type of my pci > pcmcia card?
[11:19] <biovore> UFS is real only on linux :-/
[11:19] <Blissex> r0xoR: it is OK, it would be better if there was the GDM event in it.
[11:19] <r0xoR> the gdm event... ok how do i find that?
[11:19] <biovore> iceman: there is now write support for UFS on linux
[11:19] <biovore> (no)
[11:20] <Blissex> r0xoR: are you sure it is not GDM that resets the screen size?
[11:20] <Rhisc> mythica: i think it lpci
[11:20] <Rhisc> mythica: not sur though
[11:20] <r0xoR> Blissex, i'm not sure of anything at the moment that's why i'm asking you guys
[11:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lspci
[11:20] <Rhisc> how do you run executables from a condole wondow?
[11:20] <r0xoR> Rhisc, ./exename
[11:20] <Blissex> r0xoR: well, the idea as to the event would be to get the log of an X session in which the resizing happened.
[11:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Rhisc: type in their path
[11:20] <dreamthief> oh my god - this irc client is really ugly *uargh*
[11:21] <RossH> xchat gnome
[11:21] <RossH> yes it is
[11:21] <HaxoR91> do you need credit card?
[11:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> s/path/paths/
[11:21] <iceman> Blissex /mnt/hdaN does not exist ...
[11:21] <dreamthief> yes it's ugly like hell
[11:21] <Rhisc> thanks
[11:21] <Blissex> iceman: you have to use the right name, that was an example./
[11:21] <Rhisc> dreamthief,: what are you using?
[11:21] <r0xoR> Blissex, ok so as i asked before... where do i find said logs
[11:21] <dreamthief> xchat gnome *lol*
[11:21] <Blissex> r0xoR: same name.
[11:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> irssi, fullscreen ^_^
[11:22] <Rhisc> xchat isnt bad
[11:22] <r0xoR> Blissex, ? lol same name as...
[11:22] <Rhisc> you just gotta configure it
[11:22] <HaxoR91> do i have to pay for cedega with credit card?
[11:22] <RossH> xchat rocks....xchat gnome sucks
[11:22] <r0xoR> HaxoR91, iirc... yes
[11:22] <r0xoR> HaxoR91, unless you want to wait a week for a check in the snail mail
[11:22] <HaxoR91> i dont have credit card though
[11:22] <HaxoR91> no
[11:22] <r0xoR> HaxoR91, paypal account?
[11:23] <HaxoR91> can't i run steam and half life on the latest wine?
[11:23] <r0xoR> HaxoR91, doubt it
[11:23] <HaxoR91> why?
[11:23] <iceman> Blissex should be hda0 ... :(   "  /mnt/hda0 " does not exist
[11:23] <r0xoR> HaxoR91, that's what cedega is for
[11:23] <HaxoR91> aww crap
[11:23] <Blissex> iceman: thats why I was mentioning the difference between the PC and the BSD way of doing partitions...
[11:24] <r0xoR> HaxoR91, dude, it's $5, have a friend or family member use their credit card and hand them $5
[11:24] <Blissex> iceman: try 'fdisk -l /dev/hda' or whatever the disk is.
[11:24] <dreamthief> I completely switched to ubuntu with aiglx enabled when I accidentally crashed my 55 gig partition one week ago ^^ but sometimes is miss the comfort om some windows-based tools...
[11:24] <dli> Blissex, since openstep must be open, why no write support for ufs in kernel?
[11:24] <dreamthief> is --> I
[11:24] <HaxoR91> i have a sister
[11:24] <HaxoR91> = \
[11:24] <HaxoR91> lol
[11:24] <highvoltage> HaxoR91: is she hot?
[11:24] <HaxoR91> lol
[11:24] <HaxoR91> yes
[11:24] <HaxoR91> i guess
[11:24] <HaxoR91> = \
[11:24] <dreamthief> rofl
[11:24] <highvoltage> is she into ubuntu?
[11:25] <HaxoR91> NOOO
[11:25] <r0xoR> !punctuation
[11:25] <ubotu> Please don't use the enter key as punctuation. It floods the channel, makes your stuff harder to read, and is just downright annoying.
[11:25] <HaxoR91> she hates linux
[11:25] <highvoltage> :/
[11:25] <HaxoR91> =\
[11:25] <r0xoR> !tell HaxoR91 about punctuation
[11:25] <highvoltage> why is she batting for the wrong side?
[11:25] <Blissex> dli: because porting filesystem drivers is hard work actually.
[11:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !offtopic
[11:26] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[11:26] <r0xoR> misfit_toy, hey mang
[11:26] <dli> Blissex, too bad, I was hoping people to port reiser4 to hurd and bsd
[11:26] <iceman> Shoot has to be a way to mount this drive ?
[11:26] <Blissex> dli: it is indeed hard work...
[11:27] <dli> Blissex, does ubuntu support reiser4 natively? or will?
[11:27] <Blissex> dli: read-write is the hardest bit, because it involves locking and race conditions.
[11:27] <Blissex> dli: I have no idea. I personally prefer JFS actually.
[11:27] <r0xoR> Blissex, so you still haven't told me where my xsession log is...
[11:27] <dli> Blissex, jfs is good, fast journal replay
[11:28] <Blissex> r0xoR: not the xsession log, but the '/var/log/Xorg.0.log' in an X session in which you have used GDM.
[11:29] <dreamthief> what about xfs? *g* I'm using xfs with LVM and it's great *g* adding diskspace on the fly to any partition is not so bad ...
[11:29] <dli> iceman, install openstep or *BSD
[11:29] <r0xoR> Blissex, uhhh they're all sessions in which i've used GDM
[11:29] <r0xoR> that's my display manager
[11:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ZFS all the way =)
[11:29] <Blissex> dli: I have done fairly extensive filesystem tests and more recently here: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno06-2nd.html#060424
[11:29] <r0xoR> Blissex, i just used GDM like a few minutes ago before i came in here and asked about the problem i'm having
[11:30] <Blissex> r0xoR: and it started in 640x480 and you are still using it in 640x480?
[11:30] <ic56> I right-clicked on the lifesaver icon in the GNOME panel, selected properties, and got the "Launcher properties" window.  I then clicked on the image of the icon and changed the choice of icon from /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/gnome-help.png to the same under 24x24.  I rebooted.  The size of the icon in the panel is the same.  Why?
[11:30] <iceman> Opensteps installed ... but i want acces to the drive from linux to make some edit's .... do not know vi ... and cant gain a root gui in openstep ...
[11:30] <r0xoR> Blissex, no i'm back to my login, which is running at 1600x1200
[11:30] <Blissex> r0xoR: then it is a different X session...
[11:30] <Nigel-> http://fbi.gov.swellserver.com/drag_net.php
[11:30] <dli> Blissex, nice benchmark, but no reiser4
[11:30] <karim> help
[11:30] <r0xoR> Blissex, ahhh, so where do i find the log for that xsession then
[11:31] <r0xoR> Blissex, btw, i'm still logged in to the other one
[11:31] <Blissex> r0xoR: either it is '/var/log/Xorg.0.log.old' or you gotta do it again. If you have two X sessions open at the same time, look at '/var/log/Xorg.1.log'
[11:31] <r0xoR> Blissex, CTRL-ALT-F7 gives me my login with 1600x1200, and CTRL-ALT-F8 gives me the new login with 640x480
[11:32] <dli> Blissex, indeed, I use only jfs and reiser4 nowadays, jfs is the second best
[11:32] <Blissex> r0xoR: then for CTRL-ALT-F8 it is indeed  '/var/log/Xorg.1.log'
[11:32] <ic56> iceman: what's the problem again?
[11:32] <r0xoR> Blissex, mmm except i don't have that, i have Xorg.20.log
[11:32] <r0xoR> and Xorg.0.log
[11:32] <iceman> how to MOunt a openstep harddrive in linux
[11:32] <r0xoR> and Xorg.20.log.old and Xorg.0.log.old
[11:33] <iceman> Mount point /mnt/hda0 does not exist ...
[11:33] <toni123> Hello
[11:33] <r0xoR> iceman, mnt /dev/hdx? /some/folder
[11:33] <Blissex> r0xoR: if you have 'Xorg.20.log' I suspect that you are running some evil experimental server.
[11:33] <r0xoR> er
[11:33] <r0xoR> iceman, mount /dev/hdx? /some/folder
[11:33] <r0xoR> sorry, gotta use the full word
[11:34] <r0xoR> Blissex? experimental... grrr... the only thing i've done to this box "out of the ordinary" is compile a custom kernel
[11:34] <toni123> iceman maltese?
[11:34] <madflying__> hello there
[11:34] <mathrick> hi, what is devhelp-book-glibc called now?
[11:35] <madflying__> i installed a cpl of days ago ubuntu...
[11:35] <madflying__> it is great....but i am trying to change the resolution of my laptop
[11:35] <crunchyfish> has anyone had a problem with the dapper livecd during setup that says "hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit?", and it'll post that error a few times and then finally boot, and as soon as the desktop shows up the pc will either freeze or reboot?
[11:35] <madflying__> and i couldn t get to work
[11:36] <madflying__> i have tried to edit the xorg file...but no success
[11:36] <toni123> i have a problem with kubuntu
[11:36] <iceman> damit cant find the correct filesystem
[11:36] <mathrick> madflying__: tried screen resolution applet?
[11:36] <toni123> *ubuntu
[11:36] <mathrick> madflying__: system->prefs->screen resolution
[11:36] <toni123> my graphics go nuts after a few minutes
[11:37] <madflying__> done that, max resolution is 1024
[11:37] <ic56> iceman: is this an IBM-compatible class machine?   How do you know?
[11:39] <madflying__> need to run the cmd as root
[11:39] <toni123> I meant are you Maltese?
[11:39] <madflying__> soory
[11:39] <mathrick> madflying__: that's why I said sudo
[11:39] <madflying__> missed sudo bit
[11:40] <iceman> Should be on that channel ... its the primary harddrive in the box ...
[11:40] <ic56> iceman: ok, if that's the case, what does "fdisk /dev/hda" say?
[11:41] <ic56> iceman: don't paste fdisk's output here.  Just confirm that the output matches your expectation of what should be on that drive
[11:41] <iceman> Unable to open /dev/hda
[11:41] <iceman> not mounted .. ;(
[11:42] <mythica> does this sound like my pci > pcmcia card:
[11:42] <mythica> 0000:02:03.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c475 (rev 81)
[11:42] <soundray> mythica: it certainly does
[11:42] <ic56> iceman: fdisk doesn't care about mounting.  It works at the layer below the filesystem.  Unable to open suggests...  There is no way to tell whether there is a recognized card in there.
[11:44] <mathrick> lemme ask again: what is devhelp-book-glibc called now?
[11:44] <Caminomaster> How can I use a ps2 mouse? Ubuntu don't recognize it
[11:45] <soundray> mythica: best to open a terminal and run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog', then insert the card.
[11:45] <toni123> I am very new to linux...never used it..what linux do you suggest easiest to use?
[11:45] <mythica> cool
[11:45] <soundray> toni123: Ubuntu. But that's a biased statement ;)
[11:45] <mathrick> toni123: ubuntu :)
[11:45] <ayabara> should I use ext2 or ext3 then I format my external hd?
[11:45] <dekela> Anyone has a good toturial on gfxboot?
[11:45] <pet_> ext3
[11:46] <Oceansblue> ?? paths added in .bash_profile not add to $PATH ?? WHY??
[11:46] <ayabara> pet_: I almost did, but saw that out of a 140GB drive, ext3 took away 10% in overhead
[11:46] <dekela> Oceansblue: Are you sure they are added to your user profile?
[11:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ayabara: Try xfs, then.
[11:47] <soundray> Oceansblue: it probably adds the paths, but they are overwritten later.
[11:47] <denix> hi all
[11:47] <Oceansblue> yes
[11:47] <Oceansblue> yes but where - it works in.bashrc
[11:47] <dekela> Hey all
[11:47] <iceman> ok wrong fs type ... not ufs ?
[11:48] <denix> somebody already had problems with orinoco / prism2 cards?
[11:48] <ompaul> ayabara, 14G what does the drive show in >>sudo fdisk -l<< ?
[11:48] <toni123> Is there any kind of emulator to run Linux on Windows???????
[11:48] <dekela> I am trying to have my ac97 onboard audio to play 5.1 but when I try it it stops playing my system sounds
[11:48] <ic56> iceman: has nothing to do with fs type. We're still trying to find the drive.
[11:48] <mfatih> hi, i have a problem with expresso. expresso says `can2t install grub` but the filesystem is installed to partition. how can i install only grub? i can2t fix this :(
[11:48] <vook> toni123, cygwin
[11:48] <Tarantulafudge> gfxboot?
[11:48] <mathrick> vook: NO
[11:48] <toni123> ?
[11:48] <vook> toni123, or vmware
[11:48] <iceman> it look close at hda ... but cannot read a filesystem type .. thats the error
[11:49] <ic56> iceman: Can you confirm for me what OS you are running?
[11:49] <dekela> toni123: vmware, qemu
[11:49] <denix> toni123: livecd
[11:49] <mathrick> toni123: disregard that, cygwin's not a serious proposal
[11:49] <soundray> Oceansblue: it's hard to debug this via IRC. Try inserting statements such as '(date ; echo $PATH) >>/tmp/pathlog' into .bashrc and .bash_profile to determine what happens to the paths.
[11:49] <dj_baggio> !stat
[11:49] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dj_baggio
[11:49] <toni123> whick is the best?
[11:49] <iceman> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda
[11:49] <madflying> hello again....tried the sudo dkpg, selected all the higher modes but no luck
[11:49] <ompaul> toni123, you could use vmware but to be honest the best way to do that would be to run linux and run vmware running windows as the guest
[11:49] <ayabara> ompaul: I am still in xp. formatting the drive is one of the steps towards my ubuntu life. I thought I'd use partition magic for the formatting.
[11:49] <Tarantulafudge> whats gfxboot
[11:49] <Oceansblue> thanks
[11:49] <vook> mathrick, is running linux on windows a serious proposal?
[11:49] <Oceansblue> I'll try it.
[11:49] <mathrick> wait, I misread, sorry
[11:49] <iceman> I know it's Openstep OS ... I installed it there
[11:50] <mathrick> vook: the buffer is moving tad too fast
[11:50] <dekela> vook: ;-)
[11:50] <vook> kinda defeats the purpose
[11:50] <ic56> iceman: what OS is running on the system you are using to access the drive?
[11:50] <denix> so, nobody play with wifi pcmcia?
[11:50] <toni123> where do I get vmware qemu, cygwin??
[11:50] <ompaul> ayabara, let the install disk do the formatting
[11:50] <dekela> ayabara: google is your friend
[11:51] <marcelo> I have a problem, the screensaver which when it begun to work the pc not work , its is not response to any acction, only turn off the pc
[11:51] <denix> toni123: www.vmware.com
[11:51] <denix> etc etc
[11:51] <ompaul> toni123, vmware.com qemu no idea cygwin is available from redhat
[11:51] <dekela> ayabara: sorry
[11:51] <marcelo> how diseable the screensaver, pls
[11:51] <denix> ;)
[11:51] <dekela> toni123: google is your friend
[11:51] <denix> toni123: and what do you think about ask google?
[11:51] <ompaul> dekela, we dont do google is your friend - don't say anything if you can't be specific in your answer thanks
[11:51] <toni123> tnx
[11:51] <dreamthief> marcelo: how do I use my brain? ^^
[11:51] <iceman> ic56 i know it's openstep ...
[11:51] <madflying> could it be a prob with the HorizSync	28-51
[11:51] <madflying> 	VertRefresh	43-60
[11:51] <vook> toni123, I withdraw my cygwin comment, that is unless you want to use mostly console tools, such as nmap, scripting, etc... always worked fine for me for that purpose
[11:52] <soundray> marcelo: if the screensaver running right now?
[11:52] <soundray> marcelo: is the screensaver running right now?
[11:52] <toni123> tnx a lot guys ;)
[11:52] <dekela> ompaul: It was an answer to web site searching.. I think people should know to use a search engine
[11:52] <mfatih> how can i fix my grub?
[11:52] <ic56> Oceansblue: I'll bet the PATH gets added if you login on a console terminal but not under X.  Am I right?
[11:53] <dekela> mfatih: whats the problem?
[11:53] <ompaul> dekela, no do it for them or don't do it at all - give answers you can support they may find dross on there the internet is not always right :-)
[11:53] <marcelo> not now, but when i will change to other screensaver, only with little display the pc not work
[11:53] <HymnToLife> !tell mfatih about grub
[11:53] <toni123> www.microsoft.com/mac/products/ virtualpc/virtualpc.aspx?pid=virtualpc
[11:53] <toni123> i meant like that
[11:53] <ayabara> dekela: np :-)
[11:53] <toni123> vistual pc
[11:53] <tortoise> is anyone working on better tablet pc support on gnome?
[11:53] <ompaul> dekela, they could get something that was for an RPM and then where would you be trying to explain this is a apt based distro :)
[11:53] <ic56> iceman: ok, so you are using openstep, not ubuntu.  I'm not familiar with that OS but I know it's unix like so maybe I can help you.  Do you know how to login as root?
[11:53] <steffi> I connected a usbdisk, I chown to my username and then I tried to chmod +w coz it's read only.. but it says "read-only" ..how I doit so I have write permition?
[11:54] <soundray> marcelo: go to System-Preferences-Screensaver and disable it there, or try Blank Screen
[11:54] <toni123> to run both windows and linux at the same time
[11:54] <ayabara> ompaul: let the install disk do the formatting even if I'm not installing on that drive?
[11:54] <dekela> ompaul: np.. I took it to my attention
[11:55] <Howitzer> Can i actually compile programs from source with the source repo's?
[11:55] <iceman> ic56 cant get root access in openstep ... not with a gui ... so I want to mount the drive in linux make a few changes in the networking files .. move some files to the drive .. and i'm done in it .. but from the live cd how to mount and read the drive
[11:55] <dekela> Anyone.. 5.1 in linux.. Is it that hard to achieve?
[11:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> iceman: mount -t ufs ufstype=openstep /devpath /mountpath doesn't work?
[11:55] <DBO> Howitzer, yeah, if you wanted, but I dont see why...
[11:55] <ic56> iceman: livecd of which OS?
[11:55] <ProN00b> i am using twinview and if i launch a fullscreen application (like a opengl game or something like that) it goes so the desktop resolution stays the same and the game goes in between the two screens and it has alot of black around it, how do i get it to display on one screen only ?
[11:55] <soundray> steffi: go to System-Preferences-Removable Drives and enable mount on hotplug. Then plug the drive in while you are logged in. After that, you should have write access.
[11:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> iceman: Sorry if I just jump in like that. :)
[11:55] <Howitzer> DBO, i'm a performancewhore
[11:55] <mfatih> i`m installing flight6 to my laptop. but grub couldn`t install. expresso returns error. filesystem is installed but i must install grub.. i can`t do it.. how can i fix/install my grub..
[11:55] <mfatih> my disk name is hda but grub-install or sfsdisk --list /dev/hda is returns errors.
[11:55] <mfatih> i have mount my root partition & chrooted. i try to run grub-install but it not worked :(
[11:55] <DBO> dekela, that depends on how you are trying to achieve it
[11:56] <Howitzer> But Arch is a tad too hard for me
[11:56] <pet_> what program can I use to monitor my wireless net??
[11:56] <dekela> DBO: Well.. I have Dapper , With Alsa configured great
[11:56] <ic56> PuMpErNiCkLe: iceman doesn't know the devpath and mountpath.
[11:56] <steffi> ok soundray thanx
[11:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ic56: ah
[11:56] <DBO> Howitzer, the precompiled debs perform plenty well =)
[11:56] <Howitzer> but aren't they modified?
[11:56] <dekela> DBO: all I want is that xine, Totem anything will be able to play my xvid 5.1 enabled movies
[11:56] <Howitzer> like, the Firefox packages are hella slow
[11:56] <DBO> dekela, should play fine with xine
[11:57] <herbchef> Are there any known issues of Totem crashing when playing Ogg files?
[11:57] <dekela> DBO: Yes but not 5.1
[11:57] <iceman> ic56 should be hda0 if i installed ubutu to the drive ir would be the primary drive on ide0
[11:57] <steffi> soundray, it is already checked
[11:57] <dekela> DBO: it gives me stereo
[11:57] <soundray> mfatih: ask dapper-related questions in #ubuntu+1
[11:57] <DBO> dekela, there is a setting in xine to change it from stereo to 5.1
[11:57] <soundray> steffi: unplug and plug the drive then.
[11:57] <dekela> DBO: Tried it got an error
[11:57] <madflying> i have tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to get the resolution, even if the xorg file changed i cannot get the setting to change, any suggestion
[11:57] <ic56> iceman: what OS are your running?  Linux? Debian? Ubuntu?
[11:57] <steffi> soundray, I mean it was already checked when I connected
[11:58] <DBO> dekela, what error?
[11:58] <iceman> I have the Ubuntu live c running ... OPEN step is on the drive installed ...
[11:58] <iceman> Ubuntu live cd running
[11:58] <soundray> steffi: when you type 'mount' in a terminal by itself, do you get a line that corresponds to your drive?
[11:59] <mfatih> hmm
[11:59] <vook> madflying, have you tried just creating a new xorg.conf file with the "X -configure" command, then adjusting it with the gui tools?
[11:59] <marcelo> soundray : no its possible doing to disable to the sistem-preference-screensaver, i think that doing it in terminal session ?
[11:59] <ic56> iceman: boy, it sure took a while to get a straight answer from you.  Ok, Now that we know that you are running the Ubuntu liveCD, we can give you apropriate instructions.
[11:59] <steffi> soundray, this: usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[11:59] <ic56> iceman: get a command prompt and type this: dmesg |grep hd.:
[11:59] <dekela> DBO: "The audio device is not available Please verify if another application is using it"
[11:59] <herbchef> When Totem crashes, Bug Buddy states that I'm running Snome2.12.1 and that it is older than six months. Is there a more up to date Gnome that's been backported?
[11:59] <iceman> ic56 i said it ... sorry ... was unclear ...
[11:59] <herbchef> *Gnome
[12:00] <soundray> steffi: that's not it. There should be one with /dev/sda1 or similar in it.
[12:00] <ic56> iceman: how many distinct disks are listed?