[00:31] <xmerlinx789> i have linksys wusb54gp wireless card i am trying to get it working in ubuntu can anyone help me with this
[00:40] <jukas> can anyone help me?
[00:41] <jukas> im trying to install gst-plugins-base-0.10.30 on kubuntu 10.10 but i cant do the command make
[00:42] <jukas> this is the error that returns make[3]: Entering directory `/home/jukas/Downloads/gst-plugins-base-0.10.30/gst/adder'   ORCC   tmp-orc.c /usr/local/bin/orcc: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/bin/orcc: undefined symbol: orc_parse_full make[3]: *** [tmp-orc.c] Error 127 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/jukas/Downloads/gst-plugins-base-0.10.30/gst/adder' make[2]: *** [adder] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/jukas/Downloads/gst-
[00:43] <jukas> so any ideas?
[00:53] <erick_> hola
[00:53] <erick_> hay alguien aki ¡
[00:53] <erick_> hola hola
[01:44] <buntunub> im using kubuntu 10.04 since release and I have been having issues with pulseaudio/phonon crackling/scratchy noises..
[01:44] <buntunub> can anyone help with this
[01:48] <c2tarun> hi :) I just now installed kubuntu, can anyone please tell me some download managers for kubuntu?
[01:49] <Fanfare> c2tarun: kget or ktorrent !?
[01:50] <c2tarun> Fanfare: is there anyway of making them as my default download managers with firefox?
[01:51] <Fanfare> hm, w firefox, i dont know... u can set kget as dlmanager for konqueror...
[01:52] <c2tarun> Fanfare: how?
[01:52] <Fanfare> it asks on firststart
[01:53] <c2tarun> Fanfare: Thanks :)
[02:10] <ubuntu> we
[02:23] <jukas_> can anyone help me?
[02:23] <jukas_> im trying to install gst-plugins-base-0.10.30 but i cant do the command make
[02:24] <jukas_> /usr/local/bin/orcc: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/bin/orcc: undefined symbol: orc_parse_full
[02:24] <jukas_> what is that means? anyone?
[02:28] <Fanfare> jukas_: why compile? its in the repos..
[02:29] <jukas_> but i need the gst-plugins-base
[02:30] <jukas_> the package inside repos seems not work...
[02:31] <iqbal> excuse me
[02:31] <jukas_> because everytime when i try to install gst-python-0.10 appears a message that i steel need this package
[02:31] <jukas_> still need this package
[02:31] <iqbal> can anyone help me?
[02:32] <Fanfare> iqbal: how should we know?
[02:32] <Fanfare> !ask
[02:32] <iqbal> i have a problem in creating search in java programming
[02:34] <DreamsofanEagle> hey, can someone help me out here?
[02:34] <Fanfare> !aks@DreamsofanEagle
[02:34] <Fanfare> !ask@DreamsofanEagle
[02:34] <DreamsofanEagle> !ask
[02:35] <DreamsofanEagle> ?
[02:35] <DreamsofanEagle> !ask Hey, installed Visual boy advance through the terminal, now how in the heck do I run the thing?
[02:37] <Fanfare> DreamsofanEagle: dpkg-query -L <packagename> | grep bin
[02:37] <iqbal> i create search word indictionary
[02:37] <DreamsofanEagle> ?
[02:38] <iqbal> when word r type the word realated with r show
[02:38] <iqbal> and not the meaning
[02:38] <iqbal> how to show the meaning of word?
[02:39] <iqbal> the word data and the meaning i store in List
[02:39] <Fanfare> DreamsofanEagle: if u installed pckage xyz (sudo apt-get install) and it does not create a menu entry (or u dont find it) u can list all files (or only binarys) by executing dpkg-query -L xyz | grep bin
[02:40] <DreamsofanEagle> Ok, I found it in the Bin, but its not opening
[02:42] <Fanfare> what does it say? u might need to give it a gamesfile (rom) try xyz --help or man xyz
[02:42] <DreamsofanEagle> nothing, it will not run
[02:44] <Fanfare> DreamsofanEagle: be more verbose! what do u type, what happens?
[02:45] <DreamsofanEagle> I used the GUI to get into the usr/bin folder, tried to open the program
[02:45] <DreamsofanEagle> it doesn't do a thing
[02:47] <Fanfare> DreamsofanEagle: ok, open a Konsole type the command
[02:48] <Fanfare> i guess vba doesnt have a gui...
[02:48] <DreamsofanEagle> what command, I'm not used to running a terminal
[02:49] <Fanfare> DreamsofanEagle: the name of the file u clicked on... btw <tab> is your friend!
[02:50] <Fanfare> DreamsofanEagle: try vba<tab> or vba<tab twice> that'll show u a list of executeabals starting with vba...
[02:53] <DreamsofanEagle> ahhh
[02:53] <DreamsofanEagle> think I need a ROM first
[02:54] <DreamsofanEagle> still not getting it
[02:55] <diegosx> someone?
[02:58] <`DT`> since xubuntu is dead as usual.....any idea what might cause a fresh install to work perfectly for three ours and incapable of loging in correctly after a reboot?
[02:59] <`DT`> i get the login screen, login, splash screen, flash black, see the busy cursor for the mouse, more flashing to black, splash screen back to login screen
[02:59] <`DT`> loging in to xterm work fine, but no network access when i do
[03:00] <`DT`> also running 9.10 (internet is crap, haven't gotten around to downloading 10.10 yet)
[03:10] <EduardoRT> Buenas,
[03:10] <EduardoRT> Soy usuario de Ubuntu desde hace tiempo y hasta ahora me decido a probar Kubuntu y no encuentro donde cambiar el estilo gráfico del mouse, alguien me podría decir donde es? :)
[03:12] <`DT`> !es | EduardoRT
[03:19] <lof> hello watchers
[03:20] <Daskreech> hi
[03:21] <Daskreech> `DT`: I'm going to guess the reboot helped with that
[03:21] <lof> can someone tell me how i get a tty input of ethernet to an ifconfig interface
[03:21] <`DT`> no, Daskreech reboot caused it
[03:22] <Daskreech> lof: Can you ask that a different way?
[03:22] <Daskreech> `DT`: That's what I meant the reboot caused the problem
[03:23] <lof> i have a /dev/ttyUSB and I want it to come up to that it appears for ifconfig to use
[03:24] <`DT`> Daskreech: yeah. any ideas?
[03:25] <Daskreech> lof: Ah look into /etc/network/interfaces
[03:25] <Daskreech> `DT`: look in ~/.xsession-errors
[03:26] <lof> i have added an entry in interfaces but the ifconfig group dont take it for bringing it uo
[03:26] <lof> i have added a line for iface ttyUSB
[03:27] <lof> do i need a specifier for the interface in interfaces
[03:28] <`DT`> Daskreech: do that from xterm?
[03:28] <Daskreech> `DT`: yes you can use less or grep for RR
[03:29] <lof> shall i bring though the error from ifconfig
[03:29] <`DT`> Daskreech: "command not found"
[03:30] <lof> is it connected
[03:30] <Daskreech> `DT`: What was the command you used?
[03:30] <`DT`> ~/.xsession-errors
[03:30] <Daskreech> `DT`: try less ~/.xsession-errors
[03:31] <`DT`> ok that gave me somehting
[03:31] <lof> ok do i get a turn soon
[03:35] <`DT`> Daskreech: http://pastebin.com/s3Qzg0dF
[03:35] <Daskreech> `DT`: You have paster installed on your computer?
[03:35] <`DT`> nope
[03:36] <`DT`> had to type it out on another computer
[03:37] <Daskreech> `DT`: do you have internet on your other computer?
[03:37] <`DT`> usually, yes. currently no. under xterm is says i have no networking hardware
[03:37] <Daskreech> apt-get install pastebinit
[03:37] <`DT`> everything worked fine before the reboot
[03:38] <Daskreech> `DT`: did you try reboot to a older kernel?
[03:38] <`DT`> i don't have an older kernal
[03:38] <`DT`> currently locked in to that log file too
[03:39] <Daskreech> what does sudo ifconfig -a say ?
[03:39] <`DT`> hang on, didn't realize it came unpluged, battery dies after 10 minues :/
[03:41] <`DT`> huh...last time it said i had no hardware. says i do now
[03:42]  * `DT` plugs in the a cord
[03:45] <sunexplodes> Hey guys. Got an amarok problem, but everyone in that room is asleep, so i'm gonna shoot here, if that's cool.
[03:45] <sunexplodes> Amarok handled my ipod quite well when using it out of a Gnome environment, but when I installed KDE, it started to recognize it as a generic media device. No matter what DE I'm in.
[03:45] <`DT``> infernal contraption
[03:45] <sunexplodes> No longer will it write anything to it in the proper apple format, so i'm kind of out of luck. All the other apps i've tried recognize it, but i'd prefer to use amarok, as it has all my album art and stuff
[03:45] <`DT``> ok Daskreech i'm hooked up to the ethernet
[03:46] <sunexplodes> Anyone got any guesses?
[03:46] <`DT``> sorry sunexplodes i know ziltch about apple products
[03:46] <Daskreech> Hmm ok
[03:47] <`DT`> and got pastebinit installed
[03:47] <Daskreech> `Dt`: Have net?
[03:47] <Daskreech> Ok sweet :)
[03:47] <Daskreech> Ok you are in Xterm?
[03:47] <`DT`> yes
[03:47] <Daskreech> what does startx do?
[03:47] <Daskreech> no wait
[03:47] <sunexplodes> It's likelier an amarok problem than an apple one, as all other apps are acting the same, just amarok is having an issue
[03:47] <Daskreech> `DT`: Xterm?
[03:47] <`DT`> yes
[03:47] <Daskreech> what did you do when you logged in?
[03:48] <`DT`> to login to xterm? selected it from the menu
[03:48] <Daskreech> sunexplodes: there is a common lib that is used to refognize i* devices
[03:48] <Daskreech> I don't remember what's it is called now though
[03:49] <`DT`> normal login starts, goes to splash screen, flashes black, shows busy cursor, flashes black again, back to splash screen and back to login screen
[03:49] <Daskreech> `DT`: What happens if you select KDE from the login?
[03:49] <`DT`> i don't actually have KDE
[03:50] <Daskreech> `DT`: Oh what do you have then?
[03:50] <`DT`> running Xfce, no one in #xubuntu is active
[03:50] <sunexplodes> yeah, it's libgpod, which is allowing the ipod to detect fine in gtkpod, rhythmbox, banshee, exfalso, etc. just an amarok problem.
[03:50] <`DT`> as usual
[03:50] <Daskreech> `DT`: ah hmm do you have compiz?
[03:50] <`DT`> don't think so
[03:51] <`DT`> i do not have the compiz-wrapper package installed
[03:51] <Daskreech> `DT`: do you have compiz installed?
[03:52] <`DT`> i never installed it and i don't belive it ships with th xubuntu main install
[03:52] <`DT`> any chances of an upgrade fixing this?
[03:57] <simple312> test
[03:58] <`DT`> fail
[03:58] <`DT`> :P
[03:58] <simple312> ha
[04:16] <c2tarun> I need to set a keyboard shortcut for konsole. How can I do that?
[04:18] <Daskreech> c2tarun: open konsole -> settings -> Configure Shortcuts?
[04:20] <c2tarun> Daskreech: there is option for about konsole but no option for starting konsole?
[04:21] <Daskreech> c2tarun: Make a .desktop file
[04:22] <Daskreech> or look in global shortcuts to define your own
[04:22] <c2tarun> Daskreech: in global shortcuts which KDE component should I choose?
[04:23] <Daskreech> Define a scheme and import it I think. a .desktop file is a lot easier
[04:24] <c2tarun> Daskreech: Can you please tell me how to make a .desktop file? is there any manual available on net?
[04:24] <Daskreech> You could do a kwin script as well now that I think of it
[04:25] <Daskreech> http://superuser.com/questions/6791/keyboard-shortcuts-in-kde-4-x
[04:27] <c2tarun> Daskreech: Thaks:)
[04:28] <Daskreech> c2tarun: ok. Seems there is a konsole one there already but just disabled by default
[04:28] <Daskreech> c2tarun: have you ever tried yakuake?
[04:38] <Fanfare> c2tarun: you could also try yakuake...
[04:38] <c2tarun> Fanfare: what is yakuake?
[04:38] <yofel> !info yakuake
[04:39] <yofel> drop down terminal that auto-hides
[04:39] <c2tarun> sounds good :)
[04:39] <c2tarun> let me try :)
[04:40] <c2tarun> what should I have to install for yakuake?
[04:40] <yofel> yakuake
[04:41] <c2tarun> ok I installed it, what is the key for it and how to start it/
[04:41] <c2tarun> ?
[04:42] <yofel> alt+f2 -> run yakuake
[04:42] <yofel> then press F12
[04:42] <c2tarun> wow :) its good... thanks folks
[04:46] <Glu> I need to delete a file by inode number, but the file has 0000 permissions, any suggestions? Im using a cron job to accomplish commands
[04:46] <c2tarun> Glu: try to change the permission by chmod..
[04:46] <Glu> c2tarun: problem is I cant chmod
[04:46] <Glu> c2tarun: permission denied
[04:47] <c2tarun> use sudo chmod
[04:47] <Glu> c2tarun: only way I have access is by a cron job
[04:48] <c2tarun> Glu: u cannot chmod even after application of sudo? Ok then I dont know what to do. Wait till someone reply
[04:48] <Glu> c2tarun: sudo requires a password which I cant type because its a cron job
[04:48] <yofel> erm, a cron job is always run as root
[04:49] <yofel> unless specified otherwise
[04:49] <Glu> yofel: It says permission denied when I try to delete the folder via inode number
[04:50] <Glu> This is my exact command
[04:50] <Glu> find . -inum 26048780 -exec rm -rf {} \;
[04:51] <Glu> The file has special characters... so I have to delete it by inode number
[04:53] <Daskreech> Glu: get permissions
[04:53] <yofel> hm, I guess find errors out on those special characters :/
[04:53] <yofel> since it will still pass the name
[04:54] <Daskreech> Glu: you can escape the special chars
[04:55] <Glu> Daskreech: I know the inode number... I just need to delete the folder
[04:55] <Glu> number*
[04:56] <yofel> hm, your example find command works fine here run as root
[04:56] <Daskreech> yofel: You don't have the name of the folder
[04:56] <Daskreech> Glu: can you paste the name of the folder here?
[04:56] <yofel> Daskreech: find will pass the name of the folder to rm
[04:57] <Glu> ê+gô~q©
[04:59] <yofel> hm, deleting that here works fine as root, even by inode
[05:00] <Daskreech> Glu: Who owns it?
[05:00] <Glu> Daskreech: user "stgadmin" which I am...
[05:05] <yofel> Glu: can you quote the {} and try again? '{}'
[05:05] <rtdos> i have graphical login disabled (so i can start xserver manually) but how do i use xinit or startx to specify which desktop i want to use (kde or gnome) ?
[05:06] <Glu> yofel: I am running that now
[05:07] <Glu> Permission denied
[05:08] <yofel> :S
[05:08] <Glu> yofel: Thanks for trying
[05:08] <yofel> are you running that as roo?
[05:08] <yofel> ..
[05:20] <c2tarun> muting system volume is not muting volume of youtube video :( why so?
[05:47] <noaXess> goodmorning
[05:48] <c2tarun> noaXess: gud mrng :)
[05:48] <noaXess> have right now updated to kde 4.6... don't know if it is a nvidai issue, but the animations of eg kmenu wil have some dirty aanimation parts, that will keep on screen util i go over mit the mouse
[05:48] <c2tarun> noaXess: using mouse as eraser :)
[05:48] <noaXess> c2tarun: seems to ;)
[05:49] <noaXess> also if i click the little down-arrow for the hidden system icons...
[05:50] <noaXess> it sees that it is a problem of the possition of my man bar
[05:50] <noaXess> main bar.. kmenu, apps, task entries, systray.. i have it on top...
[05:50] <noaXess> of my screen..if i place it on bottom, it works fine.. strang
[05:50] <noaXess> e
[05:51] <noaXess> the animations coming from down to top if my bar is on top of my screen..
[05:55] <c2tarun> hmm... try to install drivers for Nvidia
[05:58] <noaXess> c2tarun: i have them already ..
[05:58] <noaXess> nvidia-current                                                       260.19.06-0ubuntu1
[06:03] <c2tarun> how can i check what version of KDE is in my kubuntu?
[06:03] <noaXess> c2tarun: just open dolphin and go to help, about kde ;)
[06:06] <c2tarun> noaXess: which distro are u using?
[06:07] <noaXess> c2tarun: ?? kubuntu ;):. or are we in another channel? HA.. no ;)..
[06:07] <noaXess> kubuntu since about 3 years
[06:07] <c2tarun> sorry :)
[06:07] <noaXess> nop
[06:07] <c2tarun> I just switched from ubuntu to kubuntu, kubuntu since morning :)
[06:07] <c2tarun> Can you please tell me from where can i download nice themes for kubuntu?
[06:19] <erick> hola alguien habla español
[06:19] <susundberg> no i think we speak english here
[06:19] <susundberg> you might want to try spanish community irc
[06:20] <erick> ok graxias
[06:20] <susundberg> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/locallanguage#spanish
[06:21] <noaXess> c2tarun: hm.. never looked for that but wait
[06:22] <noaXess> c2tarun: found.. http://kde-look.org/ and this is also interesting: http://kde-apps.org/
[06:23] <susundberg> de nada
[06:23] <c2tarun> noaXess: hey can u please help me with volume in kubuntu, volume of movies is very low as compared to ubuntu. why so?
[06:23] <susundberg> your mixer volume is lower?
[06:23] <noaXess> c2tarun: hm... is pulseaudio installed?
[06:26] <c2tarun> wait let me chek
[06:26] <c2tarun> I think its not, i ran `aptitude show pulseaudio | grep State` but found error
[06:27] <noaXess> c2tarun: mybe you need to manually install pulseaudio.. but.. why?... i tought pa is no default on kubuntu mav.. grrrrr
[06:27] <noaXess> c2tarun: fresh install?
[06:28] <c2tarun> noaXess: yup today morning :(
[06:28] <noaXess> c2tarun: so install pa.. wait..
[06:28] <c2tarun> noaXess: ok
[06:28] <noaXess> c2tarun:   p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }  http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Pulseaudio
[06:28] <noaXess> shit sorry..
[06:29] <tsimpson> Kubuntu doesn't and won't use Pulse, we have Phonon thanks
[06:29] <noaXess> basket formatting was pasted too grr
[06:29] <c2tarun> noaXess: so what should i do ?
[06:29] <noaXess> tsimpson: hm... so can you explain why c2tarun's sound is low?
[06:29] <tsimpson> (though phonon can use pulse)
[06:29] <noaXess> lower than in ubuntu
[06:30] <tsimpson> check the mixer settings, Kubuntu does nothing special with sound other than just play it
[06:30] <noaXess> c2tarun: checked  mixer?
[06:30] <tsimpson> it's possible that pulse does some pre-amplification stuff
[06:30] <c2tarun> tsimpson: actually i just checked phonon is also not installed
[06:30] <tsimpson> c2tarun: how did you install kubuntu?
[06:30] <c2tarun> from live CD
[06:30] <tsimpson> then you do have phonon
[06:31] <tsimpson> or, something went horribly wrong with the install, as phonon is part of KDE SC
[06:31] <c2tarun> ok i just checkd in mixer :) internal volume was low
[06:31] <c2tarun> Thanks folks
[06:33] <susundberg> kubuntu natty does use pulseaudio?
[06:33] <susundberg> and doesnt even earlier have? i mean 10.10 ?
[06:33] <tsimpson> kubuntu doesn't use pulse by default
[06:34] <tsimpson> though you can have phonon use pulse
[06:34] <susundberg> oh sure it does
[06:34] <susundberg> Kubuntu now uses the PulseAudio sound server by default.
[06:34] <susundberg> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/10.10-release
[06:34] <FloodBotK3> susundberg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:34] <susundberg> yeah sorry mr. bot
[06:35] <noaXess> susundberg: yes.. that right.. so pa is default installed..
[06:35] <tsimpson> I must have just removed it earlier on my 10.10 system then
[06:37] <tsimpson> ah, it's only recommended in kubuntu-desktop, I didn't install any of the recommended stuff I didn't already have
[06:51] <i4ba1> what different between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[06:54] <Nielsen> i4ba1: "k"
[07:18] <reisi> is there an easy way to turn kubuntu-desktop install into "headless" (no X or any graphical) -- we had a bit of miscommunication and a headless setup is now running X+kdm for no reason
[07:20] <Nielsen> can't you just disable the init script for kdm?
[07:20] <reisi> Nielsen: i'd rather remove the packages; they weight about 90% of all updates
[07:21] <Nielsen> uhm... apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop has a depends list of packages
[07:23] <reisi> so it's as easy as removing that package? that was my guess, has anyone ever removed it?
[07:23] <reisi> successfully that is :)
[07:23] <Nielsen> dunno
[09:23] <devurandom> Hello!
[09:23] <devurandom> Where can I find the source packages of kubuntu-ppa/backports?
[09:27] <moetunes> backports is a repository like the rest so    apt-get source application    should work the same for it afaik
[09:28] <devurandom> Sry, misnomer on my side. I mean the source for the package, not the source-package.
[09:29] <devurandom> I need to have a look at the scripts that built the binary package.
[09:29] <beverly_> yay binary
[09:30] <moetunes> devurandom:  maybe ask in kubuntu-dev that's nothing I've bothered with
[09:31] <devurandom> Oh, wasnt aware of that chan. Thanks!
[09:31] <moetunes> np :)
[09:31] <devurandom> Heh, must have been because that chan doesnt exist...
[09:32] <moetunes> !channels
[09:32] <devurandom> #kubuntu-devel
[09:32] <moetunes> there you go...
[10:37] <Decorian> hi, recently installed kubuntu 10.10 on my netbook, it won't go past the login screen, although i can log in fine in the console. I seperated home and root partitions and encrypted the home folder, any ideas as to what's wrong or should I just reinstall?
[10:40] <james147> Decorian: check the logs (/var/log/Xorg.0.log and ~/.xsessionerrors) if not try starting it from a tty (with startx) after you shutdown kdm (also make sure you own all the files in you home (espically the hidden ones)
[10:40] <Decorian> how do i shutdown kdm?
[10:41] <Decorian> also, i'm fairly sure i would own everything, there's only one user, and it's pretty much a clean install
[10:41] <Decorian> all i have done is updates and installed some programs (bzr and things)
[10:44] <james147> Decorian: check anyway... some times root takes hold of your files if you have been running something as root that you houldnt have ;)
[10:44] <james147> Decorian: to stop kdm run "sudo stop kdm" and "sudo start kdm" to start it (or restart if you just want to restart it)
[10:44] <Decorian> ok, thanks
[10:45] <Decorian> ok, the startx worked, and I logged in
[10:45] <Decorian> i'm going to run an update, then see if it happens agai
[10:45] <Decorian> n
[10:46] <Decorian> also i'll check all my files in /home
[10:48] <Decorian> thanks for your help james147
[10:51] <james147> Decorian: also, though unlikly on a new install, make sure kubuntu-desktop is still instaleld
[10:52] <Decorian> ok, thanks,
[10:52] <Decorian> i think so, because i'm in now
[11:10] <prescott> any one know about usenet
[11:47] <nicklas_> hello. 4.6 is working good? updated and emptied my home yesterday, but havent had time to test it yet
[12:08] <pablo_> putas
[12:10] <kt_> hello, i want to view youtube but it says i need adobe flash player i cant get it from their site, is there any problem or what man?
[12:10] <kt_> im using kbuntu
[12:11] <james147> kt_: install "kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[12:11] <kt_> from where?
[12:12] <james147> kt_: kpackagekit or apt-get or anyother packagemanager in kubuntu :)
[12:12] <Peace-> !medibuntu | kt_
[12:12] <kt_> i have apt-get
[12:12] <kt_> what exactly i must type?
[12:12] <kt_> apt-get kubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:12] <kt_> ?
[12:12] <Peace-> sudo apt-get install stuff
[12:12] <james147> kt_: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[12:12] <Peace-> james147: hi
[12:13] <james147> Hey Peace-
[12:13] <kt_> ok its going on
[12:13] <kt_> btw the blinking problem is not solved yet
[12:13] <kt_> the site u gave me solved problem for few mins
[12:13] <Peace-> kt_: have you the medibuntu repository ?
[12:13] <kt_> but now its started again
[12:13] <kt_> peace my wifi led keeps blinking, how can i stop that?
[12:14] <Peace-> kt_: it working ?
[12:14] <Peace-> it's
[12:14] <kt_> yes
[12:14] <kt_> its working but its blinking which is disturbing
[12:14] <Peace-> well you can't do it
[12:14] <kt_> why not?
[12:14] <kt_> it will spoil the wifi like this
[12:15] <Decorian> doesn't blinking just mean that traffic is going over the wifi, and it's telling you it's working
[12:15] <kt_> it shouldnt blink
[12:15] <kt_> it should stay blue color if its working
[12:16] <kt_> and red tells u its not working
[12:16] <kt_> it continues blue/red/blue/red
[12:16] <Decorian> oh, mine flickers when i access the internet and traffic is going over it, but when i stop, it just stays constant to tell you it's working (then red for not working)
[12:20] <kt_> no help?
[12:20] <kt_> ;\
[12:21] <Peace-> kt_: you will not fix this
[12:21] <Peace-> ever
[12:21] <kt_> why not
[12:21] <kt_> i just fixed it yesterday, james gave me a link which i followed
[12:21] <kt_> but now when i restarted laptop it has started again
[12:21] <Peace-> kt_: well...
[12:21] <Peace-> then you have to link me the tutorial
[12:22] <Peace-> maybe there is some command to do on the start
[12:22] <kt_> on google type how to stop wifi led blinking
[12:22] <Peace-> what did you exacly done ?
[12:22] <kt_> there its on the top i guess
[12:22] <kt_> there were 2-3 commands
[12:22] <kt_> which i typed in bash and it worked
[12:22] <Peace-> kt_: so basically you have to create a script
[12:22] <Peace-> and put it on the folder ~/.Autostart
[12:23] <Peace-> it will run everytime you turn on the pc
[12:23] <Peace-> to do this
[12:23] <kt_> i see
[12:23] <Peace-> just
[12:23] <kt_> so how can i do that
[12:23] <Peace-> write this
[12:23] <FloodBotK3> Peace-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:23] <Peace-> kt_: http://pastebin.com/Hn7JgtbA
[12:24] <Peace-> when you have created it
[12:24] <Peace-> make it executable with
[12:24] <kt_> http://alexcabal.com/stop-blinking-intel-wifi-led-on-ubuntu-karmic/
[12:24] <kt_> this is the thing
[12:24] <Peace-> chmod +x namescript
[12:24] <kt_> can u check that article and help me with method 1
[12:24] <kt_> that one works
[12:25] <kt_> tell me what exactly to type, ill type it in bash
[12:26] <Peace-> kt_: create a text file
[12:26] <Peace-> kt_: then you paste http://pastebin.com/qa6z09Tt
[12:27] <kt_> how to create text file, this is my 2nd day on linux
[12:27] <kt_> i used windows till now
[12:27] <Peace-> kt_: ....
[12:27] <Peace-> kt_: open a terminal
[12:27] <Peace-> kt_: or run kate
[12:27] <Peace-> or right button on the file manager ---create a new text file
[12:27] <kt_> ok kate is running
[12:27] <kt_> kate is running now
[12:28] <Peace-> kt_: ok paste the file you can find http://pastebin.com/qa6z09Tt
[12:28] <Peace-> save the file with nobliking
[12:28] <Peace-> go with the file manager where there is noblinking
[12:28] <Peace-> right button on the file
[12:29] <Peace-> properties
[12:29] <kt_> wait wait
[12:29] <Peace-> permission
[12:29] <kt_> i have copy/pasted that into that thing
[12:29] <Peace-> it's executable
[12:29] <kt_> that text editor
[12:29] <kt_> now i should save it?
[12:29] <Peace-> kt_: well yes...
[12:30] <kt_> how?
[12:30] <Peace-> omg
[12:30] <Peace-> kt_: age?
[12:30] <kt_> 15
[12:30] <kt_> y?
[12:30] <Peace-> omg and you don't know how to save files in windowws?
[12:30] <Peace-> xD
[12:30] <kt_> i know on windows
[12:30] <kt_> this is not windows
[12:30] <kt_> lol
[12:30] <Peace-> the same on kde
[12:31] <Peace-> save as... omg there is the icon kid
[12:31] <Peace-> wake up
[12:31] <kt_> ok
[12:31] <kt_> i saved it on the name "lol"
[12:31] <Peace-> or in the menu file save as
[12:31] <Peace-> -.-
[12:31] <kt_> now what?
[12:31] <Peace-> well
[12:31] <Peace-> open dolphin
[12:31]  * Peace- is a saint
[12:31] <kt_> dolphin is opened
[12:31] <kt_> now?
[12:32] <Peace-> go where you saved the file lol
[12:32] <kt_> /whois $me
[12:32] <kt_> i did
[12:32] <kt_> then?
[12:32] <Peace-> right button
[12:32] <Peace-> proprietes
[12:32] <Peace-> permission
[12:33] <Peace-> set it like is executable
[12:33] <Peace-> then ... put this file on this folder
[12:33] <kt_> i dont find where is "properties"
[12:33] <Peace-> kt_: ok i have no time kid
[12:33] <Peace-> i ahve to go now
[12:33] <Peace-> bye
[12:33] <kt_> please sir help me
[12:34] <kt_> where is properties?
[12:34] <kt_> plz sir
[12:35] <kt_> plz sir :) just tell me, im very close
[12:35] <kt_> there is no properties
[12:36] <Decorian> hi kt, properties should be at the bottom of the menu when you right-click on the text file you just saved
[12:36] <kt_> grr i opened the file
[12:36] <kt_> anyway wait
[12:36] <Peace-> kt_: omg kid look at this http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopaa1371
[12:37] <kt_> ok done
[12:37] <kt_> i have set it to is excutable
[12:37] <kt_> now what?
[12:37] <Peace-> kt_: look where the file si
[12:37] <Decorian> you clicked ok and confirmed the executable property
[12:37] <Peace-> it's my home/.kde/Autostart
[12:38] <Peace-> and it's executable
[12:38] <Peace-> that's all
[12:38] <kt_> file is on desktop
[12:38] <kt_> i mean documents, sorry
[12:39] <Peace-> kt_: kid do you know in windows how to change location to a file?
[12:39] <Peace-> it's the same on kde xD
[12:39] <kt_> /home/kt/documents
[12:40] <kt_> its there
[12:40] <kt_> and its executable
[12:41] <kt_> i added it
[12:41] <kt_> to startup
[12:41] <kt_> now it should be done?
[12:41] <Decorian> startup? or ~/.kde/Autostart
[12:41] <kt_> Autostart
[12:41] <Decorian> should be done
[12:42] <kt_> btw ive installed that restricted thing
[12:42] <kt_> its asking me to configure
[12:42] <kt_> how to configure it
[12:42] <Decorian> sorry don't know
[12:43] <kt_> i want to play videos on youtube
[12:43] <Peace-> Decorian: Autostart
[12:43] <kt_> it says install adobe flash player, whats the linux version of it
[12:43] <kt_> ?
[12:43] <Peace-> kt_: you have to learn linux
[12:43] <Peace-> !wiki
[12:43] <Peace-> read that
[12:43] <kt_> i know
[12:43] <kt_> but first tell me what is adobe flash player for linux
[12:43] <kt_> what version?
[12:44] <Peace-> !flash | kt_
[12:44] <Peace-> kt_: do not install gnash but flash
[12:44] <kt_> i did that sudo apt-get install restricted command
[12:44] <kt_> it has completed installation
[12:44] <kt_> that dont include flash?
[12:45] <Peace-> kt_: that include
[12:45] <Peace-> flash yes
[12:45] <kt_> but its installed
[12:45] <kt_> it was asking me to configure it
[12:45] <james147> kt_: yes, but you need tor estart any browsers for it to work
[12:45] <kt_> i didnt know how to so i closed the shell
[12:45] <kt_> i have started browser
[12:45] <kt_> konqueror
[12:45] <james147> restart ^^
[12:46] <kt_> restarting browser now, sec
[12:46] <kt_> still not working
[12:46] <kt_> it says install adobe
[12:47] <Decorian> Peace: just got back and i don't understand what you meant by Autostart, sorry
[12:49] <kt_> the restricted package which u installed on me
[12:49] <kt_> how can i configure that james
[12:49] <kt_> it was asking for configuration so i closed the shell
[12:50] <james147> kt_: why did you close the shell? run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[12:50] <kt_> ok wait
[12:51] <kt_> it says
[12:51] <kt_> no run command
[12:51] <kt_> run command not found, now?
[12:52] <james147> kt_: no, just type in the stuff inside the quotes
[12:52] <kt_> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[12:53] <kt_> now?
[12:55] <kt_> james what to do bro
[12:55] <james147> ... thats why you dont close shells when installing or configureing stuff
[12:55] <kt_> i know but i made a mistake now
[12:55] <kt_> should i restart pc and try again?
[12:55] <kt_> or what ..
[12:55] <james147> doupt that would help, one sec
[12:55] <kt_> ok
[12:57] <james147> kt_: try running this: sudo rm -rf /var/cache/debconf/*
[12:57] <james147> sudo apt-get install -f
[12:58] <james147> But i do not know entily what is in that directory... although its only a cache...
[12:58] <james147> (found: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debconf/+bug/349469)
[12:59] <kt_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:59] <kt_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:59] <kt_> now it says that, what to do now sir
[12:59] <jussi> !aptfix
[12:59] <james147> kt_: make sure you dont have another packagemanager running
[12:59] <jussi> kt_: ee above
[13:00] <james147> ^^ or that :)
[13:00] <jussi> oh, and james147's suggesstion
[13:00] <jussi> (first)
[13:00] <james147> jussi:  :D
[13:00] <kt_> i typed that command
[13:01] <kt_> that -vki one
[13:01] <kt_> it gave a 4 line output now i retype that reconfigure command it says its broken
[13:01] <kt_> usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: kubuntu-restricted-extras is broken or not fully installed
[13:01] <jussi> kt_: sudo apt-get install -f
[13:02] <kt_> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[13:02] <james147> kt_: any dont intrupt dpkg again :p
[13:02] <jussi> kt_: ok, so run it :) sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:02] <kt_> its running now
[13:03] <kt_> btw -f is only flash player install
[13:03] <kt_> or it will install all the restricted package?
[13:03] <jussi> -f is "fix missing"
[13:04] <kt_> ok so it means all restricted package
[13:04] <kt_> will be installed now?
[13:05] <james147> kt_: since its not fully configued -f should fix that
[13:06] <kt_> how many modules/programs does this restrickted and extras package have?
[13:06] <james147> a few, it has most of the restricted codecs in it
[13:07] <kt_> btw flash now working, playing video.. thanks
[13:07] <kt_> i have already done sudo apt-get update
[13:07] <kt_> but how can i update everything that is required
[13:07] <kt_> and what are other important tools that i must download
[13:09] <Peace-> kt_: i have written something that could be intersting http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/11/07/what-you-should-want-to-do-on-kubuntu-10-04/
[13:12] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[13:14] <Peace-> BluesKaj: hey
[13:16] <BluesKaj> hi Peace-
[13:17] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[13:18] <rysiek|pl> guys, I have some *serious* prblems upgrading to KDE SC 4.6 from Backports
[13:18] <rysiek|pl> basically the whole KDE had to be removed completely
[13:18] <Peace-> nice xD
[13:18] <Peace-> hahahahaha
[13:18] <yofel> not again...
[13:19] <rysiek|pl> yofel: same thing as before, but now I decided to go through with it
[13:19] <rysiek|pl> I am looking at the launchpad kubuntu backports ppa
[13:19] <rysiek|pl> and I see there is no "libkio5" package there, at all
[13:19] <rysiek|pl> and that is one of the problematic (i.e. blocking clean update) packages
[13:19] <rysiek|pl> wtf?
[13:20] <yofel> that's somewhat impossible
[13:20] <yofel> I'll take a look
[13:21] <rysiek|pl> if said libkio5 and a few other libs had a clear upgrade path I wouldn't be in the pickle I am right now
[13:21] <rysiek|pl> libkdecore5, libkdeui5, ...
[13:22] <yofel> erm... it *is* there https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+sourcepub/1474481/+listing-archive-extra
[13:22] <rysiek|pl> yofel: sorry, I looked here
[13:22] <rysiek|pl> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+index?field.series_filter=maverick&start=75&batch=75
[13:23] <yofel> that shows *source* packages, libkio5 is a binary package build by kde4libs
[13:24] <rysiek|pl> right
[13:24] <yofel> run 'apt-cache shource libkio5' to find that out
[13:24] <yofel> *source
[13:25] <rysiek|pl> why the heck does aptitude install libkio5 4.5.1 instead of whatever is in backports
[13:26] <Peace-> rysiek|pl: mmm bad thing with backports
[13:26] <rysiek|pl> ?
[13:27] <rysiek|pl> ffs
[13:27] <rysiek|pl> oh shi-
[13:28] <rysiek|pl> I had a stale apt preferences file
[13:28] <rysiek|pl> oh for the love of...
[13:41] <kt_> helo
[13:41] <kt_> ok all things fixed now besides the damn blinking problem
[13:41] <kt_> whats a good c compiler for ubuntu ?
[13:42] <Guest68023> ciao
[13:43] <kt_> peace how to bring the icons below on start menu
[13:43] <kt_> like uve bringen in ur video
[13:46] <Decorian> kt: a good c compiler would be gcc
[13:47] <kt_> yao baby but it has no GUI
[13:47] <kt_> i want something like visual studio
[13:47] <james147> kt_: then you want an ide,
[13:47] <kt_> yes
[13:47] <kt_> any IDE for linux ?
[13:47] <james147> kt_: kdevelop or qt creator are two good choises
[13:48] <kt_> btw james, can i get the latest ubuntu and update from this current one
[13:48] <kt_> or no i have to remove this and install new one
[13:48] <Decorian> kt: Personally I like eclipse, even for C programming
[13:48] <james147> kt_: you can upgrade between version of kubuntu without reinstalling
[13:48] <kt_> how ????????????
[13:48]  * james147 hates eclipse with a passion
[13:48] <kt_> how can i upgrade to most latest version on earth
[13:48] <james147> kt_: what version are you on?
[13:49] <kt_> Linux kt-computer 2.6.32-27-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 2 00:51:09 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:49] <Decorian> james: I'm not after a war, but what is your reason for disliking eclipse?
[13:50] <kt_> how can i upgrade frm this version to the latest one james?
[13:50] <james147> kt_: run "lsb-release -a"
[13:50] <james147> (to fine you version that is)
[13:50] <kt_> No command 'lsb-release' found, did you mean:
[13:50] <kt_>  Command 'lsb_release' from package 'lsb-release' (main)
[13:51] <james147> ^^ opp use a _ not a - sorry :)
[13:51] <james147> lsb_release -a
[13:52] <kt_> No LSB modules are available.
[13:52] <kt_> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[13:52] <kt_> Description:    Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS
[13:52] <kt_> Release:        10.04
[13:52] <kt_> Codename:       lucid
[13:52] <FloodBotK3> kt_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:52] <kt_> ok sorry FloodBotK3
[13:52] <james147> !upgrade
[13:52] <kt_> so james147?
[13:52] <james147> kt_: 10.10 is the latest stable version and 11.04 is due at the end of april i believe
[13:52] <kt_> ok
[13:52] <kt_> so how to get the latest version
[13:52] <kt_> without reinstalling
[13:53] <james147> kt_: see ubottu's message
[13:53] <kt_> ok whats the difference b/w ubuntu servers and desktops?
[13:54] <kt_> and im using Kubuntu, and this is ubuntu .. so arent they different?
[13:54] <james147> kt_: they do not come with a gui and have a slighly different kernel
[13:55] <james147> kt_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades/Kubuntu  <<
[13:55] <kt_> oh
[13:56] <kt_> and im already usig latest version or not?
[13:56] <james147> kt_: allot of the guides for ubuntu apply to kubuntu as well, normaly with some minor tweeks (ie kdesudo rather the gksu and kate rather then gedit)
[13:56] <james147> kt_: 10.04 isnt the latest
[13:56] <kt_> isnt my version the latest kbuntu ?
[13:56] <james147> follow that guid
[13:56] <kt_> what is the latest
[13:56] <james147> 10.10
[13:57] <kt_> ok reading now
[13:57] <kt_> james ur really helpful man
[13:57] <kt_> thanks alot
[14:08] <woodzy> i have graphical login disabled: when i use xinit or startx, how can i tell it which desktop I want (KDE or GNOME)?
[14:10] <james147> woodzy: this might be helpful, though its not ment for ubuntu: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xinitrc
[14:11] <woodzy> thanks.
[14:41] <eee_> May i know how to connect internet in Kubuntu with bluetooth?
[14:45] <weinfrosch> May i know how to set up IRC?
[14:48] <james147> weinfrosch: would apear you already have if your here :)  anything specific you want to know?
[14:49] <weinfrosch> May i query you @james147
[14:49] <weinfrosch> ?;
[14:49] <weinfrosch> ?
[14:51] <james147> weinfrosch: you should ask here
[14:53] <weinfrosch> I used to use //mode $me +x
[14:54] <weinfrosch> now irc doesnt accept this command.
[14:54] <james147> what command? (sorry client crashed)
[14:55] <weinfrosch> and
[14:55] <james147> and?
[14:55] <weinfrosch> umode +x
[14:56] <weinfrosch> and
[14:56] <weinfrosch> authserv
[14:56] <weinfrosch> hallo
[15:00] <weinfrosch1> May I ask what is this kubuntu thing?
[15:01] <james147> weinfrosch1: its a linux based operating system
[15:01] <Realmkeeper> weinfrosch1: http://www.kubuntu.org/about-us
[15:02] <weinfrosch1> Thank You.
[15:04] <weinfrosch1> How can i type a <minus>?
[15:05] <Realmkeeper> weinfrosch1: Huh? As in 2-1=1... that type of minus?
[15:06] <weinfrosch1> As in 2x1.1
[15:07] <weinfrosch1> How can i type that kind of x?
[15:10] <Realmkeeper> wainfrosch1: If you are using a "qwerty" keyboard, it's next to the 0 (zero) key ... (it's also the dash)
[15:10] <wainfrosch1> qwerty
[15:10] <wainfrosch1> um
[15:11] <wainfrosch1> the next to the 0 key doesnt work
[15:11] <ArGGu^^> What are the benefits of ibus?
[15:11] <wainfrosch1> what is an ibus?
[15:11] <ArGGu^^> I have not been able to input character ^ in qt apps
[15:12] <ArGGu^^> but finaly got it working by removing ibus-qt4
[15:12] <ArGGu^^> input frame work
[15:12] <ArGGu^^> *framework
[15:13] <Realmkeeper> okay, okay, is wainfrosch1 a bot, and I fell for it? :/
[15:14] <wainfrosch1> I know IRC by browsergaming
[15:14] <wainfrosch1> I know IRC by browsergaming.
[15:16] <wainfrosch1> i got real life frame works, i dont know what you are talking about.
[15:17] <genii-around> Weird
[15:18] <kt_> james147:  around?
[15:18] <james147> yea
[15:18] <kt_> I am currently installing the latest version, if in b/w my net goes off or electricity goes off
[15:19] <kt_> will it resume when i reconnect or what
[15:19] <lams851> hheeeyy  what's up
[15:20] <james147> kt_: if the download is intrupted then you are fine, and should be able to start it again (it will continue to downlaod the packages) but if your power goes off in the middle of installing then bad things can happen
[15:20] <wainfrosch2> What does it mean if there is a join <quassel@>?
[15:20] <kt_> ok, but if internet goes off (as im on laptop) and internet is connected after 1-2 hours
[15:20] <kt_> i'll be fine?
[15:20] <kt_> ok can i connect to one other irc server at the same time on being on this server? m using Quassel IRC
[15:20] <james147> kt_: yes, packages are downloaded and checked before anything gets installed or changed on your system
[15:21] <james147> kt_: yes you can
[15:21] <kt_> how
[15:21] <kt_> i tried /server -m
[15:21] <kt_> but it did not worked
[15:21] <james147> kt_: look in its settings
[15:21] <kt_> no i mean i want to connect to one other network
[15:21] <kt_> and i dont want to disconnect from this one
[15:22] <james147> kt_: look in its settings
[15:23] <wainfrosch2> What is wrong behaviour in #kubuntu?
[15:24] <wainfrosch2> What is bad behaviour in #kubuntu?
[15:24] <james147> !coc
[15:24] <genii-around> !coc | wainfrosch2
[15:24] <genii-around> james147: Heh
[15:24] <james147> genii-around: :D
[15:25] <james147> genii-around: i was lazier  though :p
[15:25] <wainfrosch2> i dont sign myself!
[15:25] <wainfrosch2> i dont sign by myself!
[15:25] <wainfrosch2> i dont sign at all.
[15:26] <iulian_> hi all
[15:26] <Realmkeeper> wainfrosch2: Walking like a bot, talking like a bot, and asking weird questions -- imho, that's bad conduct; but, I could be wrong.
[15:26] <weinfrosch> are you stealing my ip?
[15:27] <Pici> What?
[15:27] <weinfrosch> I dont know.
[15:28] <weinfrosch> Thank You.
[15:28] <Realmkeeper> The primary function of this computer is PIM, the primary thing not fix in KDE is PIM... ah, the waiting is (kinda) killing me.
[15:30] <weinfrosch> Im goin to the wizard tonight. Meself got reallife.
[15:30] <weinfrosch> esel
[15:30] <weinfrosch> ia
[15:31] <weinfrosch> Thank You very much.
[15:41] <Yandzee> hi there
[15:41] <Yandzee> people, help me please set up KDE uBlog plasmoid to use twitter
[15:44] <c2tarun> I want to add an application into auto start? where is the autostart applications is in kubuntu?
[15:45] <genii-around> !autostart
[15:53] <stuq> anyone know how to get the checkbox options in the filter tab in dolphin to ungreay/become active?
[15:53] <stuq> ungray...
[15:53] <stuq> ungrey...
[15:53] <stuq> one of those spellings...
[16:03] <rtdos> is there a mobile browser simulator for kde? (like what windows has?)
[16:03] <Tm_T> ...which mobile browser you're possibly meaning?
[16:04] <rtdos> something that i can see what my website looks like on a mobile phone.
[16:05] <rtdos> opera, chrome, firefox, anything.
[16:09] <Tm_T> rtdos: no, different mobile browsers shows pages differently, some of them can be "simulated" simply by shrinking the window of, let's say, chrome
[16:10] <rtdos> i understand that and was just wondering if there was a browser specifically designed to test mobile sites?
[16:11] <Tm_T> not that I know (:
[16:12] <Anubis> rtdos: maybe adobe browser labs ?
[16:13] <rtdos> i'll check it out anubis,thanks. :)
[16:14] <Tm_T> I remember someone mentioned that Opera 11 would have some option to emulate Opera mini
[16:15] <Tm_T> rtdos: there's this too: http://labs.opera.com/news/2010/04/22/
[16:18] <rtdos> thx.
[16:19] <Tm_T> there's more at opera's site I'm sure (:
[16:24] <rtdos> thanks again :)
[16:39] <Yandzee> what IDEs there are writing in Qt (for KDE)
[16:40] <Peace-> Yandzee: i am using qt designer and kate for python
[16:40] <Peace-> Yandzee: i guess you mean kdevelop?
[16:40] <Yandzee> kate... its not ide, not comfortable
[16:41] <Yandzee> i hate kdevelop
[16:41] <Peace-> Yandzee: kdevelop...
[16:41] <Peace-> there was another
[16:41] <Peace-> but i don't remember well
[16:41] <Peace-> the name
[16:41] <Peace-> !develop
[16:43] <Yandzee> i want geany analog for KDE
[16:43] <Peace-> dunno man
[16:44] <Peace-> Yandzee: maybe you could ask #kde
[16:44] <Peace-> this is only for kubuntu
[16:44] <Peace-> channel
[16:44] <Yandzee> yes, i'm sorry
[16:47] <james147> !ide
[16:47] <james147> ^^ qt creator is one of my favrouite atm
[16:47] <james147> along with vim for simplier projects :D
[16:54] <genii-around> stuq: It needs nepomuk running
[16:56] <BluesKaj> james147, is vim like nano ?
[16:56] <james147> as much as its a console based text editor... but its so much more advanced then nano, and allot harder to learn :D
[16:58] <Z3R0nim> o.o
[16:59] <Z3R0nim> awefully quiet
[16:59] <james147> Z3R0nim: this channel tends to be
[17:18] <logiclord> can anyone help me out in customizing kubuntu installed disc
[17:18] <logiclord> ??
[17:19] <logiclord> i want some app developed in our college
[17:19] <logiclord> to be preinstalled in our versions
[17:19] <logiclord> ??
[17:20] <stuq> genii-around: ps auwxx | grep nepomuk shows: /usr/bin/nepomukserver
[17:23] <soonbyte> logiclord: hmm, sweet im glad people are developing kde apps!
[17:23] <logiclord> i luv kde gui
[17:23] <logiclord> :D
[17:23] <soonbyte> grr logiclord do you know of a way to organize widgits?
[17:24] <soonbyte> i like to have apps on the desktop.. either that or im trying to figure out how to add them inside the desktop widgit
[17:24] <logiclord> sry i am new to all this
[17:24] <soonbyte> o, i tht you might be a dev
[17:27] <james147> soonbyte: in kde 4.6 some new desktops where added that allow you to orgnise widgets better, into grids and flows...
[17:27] <soonbyte> ooo
[17:35] <c2tarun> is there any way to upgrade from maverick 32-bit to maverick 64-bit?
[17:36] <james147> c2tarun: reinstall
[17:36] <james147> c2tarun: i dont know of anything that supports that
[17:37] <c2tarun> james147: that'll erase all my updates :( is 64 bit really faster than 32 bit?
[17:38] <james147> c2tarun: ^^ so update again, unless your on a slower connection that should not be a problem, and 64bit is no faster then 32bit for most applications
[17:38] <james147> c2tarun: how much ram do you have?
[17:39] <c2tarun> 4 GB
[17:40] <c2tarun> james147: 4GB
[17:40] <james147> c2tarun: how much is kubuntu actually seeing? (free -m   will tell you)
[17:41] <c2tarun> james147: sorry I guess I have 3GB of RAM :( I forgot, here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/559619/
[17:42] <james147> c2tarun: dosnt mean you only have 3 gigs... thats about what i would expect for a 32bit system, you might be wasting your last gig
[17:43] <c2tarun> james147: what do u mean ? I am not getting.
[17:43] <james147> c2tarun: there is a way to access your full ram (assuming you do actually have 4 gigs) on 32 bit (though no one application can use more then 3 or 4...)
[17:44] <c2tarun> james147: how?
[17:44] <james147> c2tarun: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq
[17:44] <james147> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-4gb-ram-limitation-solution/ even
[17:47] <james147> c2tarun: ^^ you also dont need that much swap :) hell, unless you hyberante or use allot of extreamly ram heavy applications with 4 gigs of ram you dont really need swap :)
[17:48] <james147> (though having a little can be a nice safty buffer, though 8 gigs is a allot for that ^^ i would say you should have no more then 4)
[17:49] <c2tarun> james147: I have 3GB of RAM i jst checked :( still total mem displayed is 2949 that is < 3GB how come?
[17:49]  * james147 hasnt noticed any problems running without ram on any of his systems with 2+ gigs
[17:50] <james147> c2tarun: hmm, probally reserved for soemthing like video
[17:50] <james147> c2tarun: best place to actually check is in the bios
[17:51] <c2tarun> james147: may be, I have one more problem, I had ubuntu first I tried to install kubuntu in another partitition, for that I tried to resize an partition but got and error that there can be only three primary partitions. Is there any way that I can dual boot my system with ubuntu and kubuntu?
[17:52] <james147> ^^ why dual boot, you can install kubuntu-desktop from syncptic or any other packagemanager and install kde along side gnome
[17:52] <james147> then you can pick to loginto a kde or gnome session from the login maanger
[17:52] <v3nd3tta> whenz 11.04 ?
[17:52]  * james147 fails at wording today
[17:53] <james147> v3nd3tta: it should be use april, probally the end of
[17:53] <james147> due ^^
[17:53] <c2tarun> james147: I did that when I have ubuntu, I installed KDE liked it very much but there was some errors like sound not working sometime, wifi driver not working. I asked on IRC and they said to install a fresh copy and it'll be error free :)
[17:53] <Peace-> c2tarun: welll you have only to create a non primary partition ...
[17:53] <c2tarun> Peace-: how can i do that?
[17:54] <james147> c2tarun: ok then, what partitions do you currently have?
[17:54] <Peace-> c2tarun: partition manager
[17:54] <c2tarun> james147: I have three partitions
[17:54] <james147> ^^ but yeah, you can turn one of the 4 primary partitions into a extended partition
[17:54] <c2tarun> Peace-: is there any way to create a non primary partition without deleting other partitions?
[17:54] <c2tarun> james147: without erasing the data on it?
[17:54] <james147> c2tarun: no
[17:55] <Peace-> c2tarun: you have to split one partiton
[17:55] <james147> c2tarun: what partitions do you currently have?, you can probaly just delete the swap partition if you ahve one without any adverse effect
[17:56] <james147> (assuming you ahve 4, if not then just make the 4th one an extended partition)
[17:56] <c2tarun> james147: I have three partitions and all are primary
[17:56] <Peace-> this is my hardisk c2tarun http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopml1371
[17:56] <james147> c2tarun: then you should beable to create a 4th exended
[17:56] <Peace-> as you can see i have one partition for lucid
[17:56] <james147> extended
[17:56] <Peace-> one for natty
[17:57] <Peace-> that is in a extended partition
[17:57] <Peace-> wher you can find home too and swap i believe
[17:58] <Peace-> yea i have one primary partition , where there is / for lucid
[17:58] <c2tarun> Peace-: how can i open that partition manager?
[17:58] <Peace-> and one extented for home , swap and the other / for natty xD
[17:58] <Peace-> c2tarun: you are on ubunut o kubuntu ?
[17:58] <c2tarun> Peace-: kubuntu
[17:59] <Peace-> sudo apt-get install partitionmanager
[17:59] <Peace-> then
[17:59] <Peace-> partitionmanager
[17:59] <Peace-> xD
[17:59] <FloodBotK3> Peace-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:01] <james147> c2tarun: ^^ repartition on a live cd though.... you should do it when a disk is mounted
[18:01] <Peace-> well :D right
[18:03] <c2tarun> james147, Peace-: problem is how can i create extended partition from the unallocated space, when I double click on it to create a partition i get the error :(   here is my hard disk structure  http://imagebin.org/134856  any suggestions?
[18:03] <IceEagle> hello
[18:04] <james147> c2tarun: you have 4 primaray partitions
[18:05] <james147> c2tarun: can you paste a screenshot with the window maximised so i can see whats the /dev/sda2
[18:05] <c2tarun> james147: ya sure
[18:07] <c2tarun> james147: http://imagebin.org/134858
[18:07] <james147> c2tarun: yeah, that last one is jsut swap :)
[18:07] <c2tarun> james147: so any suggestions :(
[18:08] <james147> and the unallocated is only 1.29 gigs, not enough for kubuntu
[18:08] <c2tarun> I can resize the partition named as Softwares
[18:08] <james147> c2tarun: what I would do is expand /dev/sda1 or 2 into that unalocated sapce (as its jsut being wasted atm)
[18:08] <Peace-> you need of at least 10 gb
[18:08] <Peace-> i guess
[18:09] <james147> ^^ /dev/sda3 not 2 ^^
[18:09] <james147> then i would delete the swap space (/dev/sda2 in this case)
[18:10] <james147> ^^ the 8 gigs of swap space you have is enough to install kubuntu on, though you wont ahve much room for files unless you use a different drive
[18:10] <c2tarun> james147: my HDD is very big I can allocate 30 GB space to ubuntu
[18:11] <Peace-> c2tarun: it's stupid
[18:11] <Peace-> c2tarun: you could do this
[18:11] <c2tarun> Peace-: ok than 15GB
[18:11] <c2tarun> or 10GB
[18:11] <Peace-> i have one partition for lucid
[18:11] <Peace-> one partition for natty
[18:11] <Peace-> one partition for home
[18:11] <Peace-> lucid and natty share home partition
[18:12] <james147> ^^ yeah, having one partition for home would be very usefull to you
[18:12] <james147> that way you dont need to duplicate any files
[18:12] <Peace-> yeahh
[18:12] <c2tarun> Peace-: what do u mean by sharing the home partition?
[18:12] <james147> ^^ well user files :)
[18:12] <Peace-> when i installed natty i set the /home
[18:12] <james147> c2tarun: you have one /home partition that gets mounted from both operating system
[18:12] <Peace-> in the same partition
[18:13] <Peace-> and i didn't format it of course
[18:13] <Peace-> :)
[18:13] <c2tarun> Peace-: It sounds good :) in case of any problems I just have to format other partition and install new OS and my home will remain safe that way :0
[18:14] <Peace-> of course
[18:14] <genii-around> stuq: Apologies on lag, work required me. If you go to System settings...Common Appearance and Behavior... Personal Information ... Akonadi Resources Configuration ....      Is that running?
[18:14] <c2tarun> Peace-: :) can you please tell me how can we do that?
[18:15] <james147> thats the idea... :) although kubuntus installer wont delete your /home dir if you dont formate the drrve it is on (even if its the same as / )   so you can reinstall without losing your home as long as you dont format anythign :)
[18:15] <james147> c2tarun: first thing is you need to create space for it
[18:15] <stuq> genii-around: np, i appreciate the response
[18:16] <stuq> in Personal Information
[18:16] <c2tarun> james147: ok then I'll allocate large space for my home and then small partitions for ubuntu, kubuntu and other destors?
[18:16] <james147> I would shrink /dev/sda3 (as not much of it is being used),
[18:16] <stuq> Akonadi Resources doesn't appear
[18:16] <james147> c2tarun: yup
[18:16] <stuq> Contacts/Calendar/Notes/Alarms
[18:17] <c2tarun> james147: Ok I'll shrink /dev/sda3, then?
[18:17] <stuq> i'm running <IP_ADDRESS> btw
[18:17] <james147> c2tarun: although to resize i would boot into a live cd
[18:17] <james147> first ^^
[18:17] <james147> c2tarun: as it isent safe to resize or edit paritions that have been mounted
[18:18] <c2tarun> james147: Ok, i'll use gparted for that I used it before.
[18:20] <james147> c2tarun: btw, what is on your software partition?
[18:20] <c2tarun> james147: few games, ebooks, softwares, setups of some distros
[18:20] <stuq> genii-around: Bringing up Akonadi Config via runner
[18:20] <genii-around> stuq: Ah, OK. 4.6 onwards the filter panel should work with or without Nepomuk. So in this case I do not know why it is greyed out for you
[18:20] <c2tarun> james147: some wallpapers also
[18:20] <stuq> and the server is listed as running
[18:21] <Peace-> i am on 4.6 tooo
[18:21] <stuq> ah, ok
[18:21] <Peace-> what's the problem ?
[18:21] <james147> c2tarun: ... you could also just turn that into a /home partition then :)
[18:21] <stuq> Hey Peace- I'm trying to 'un-gray' the checkboxes on the filter tab in dolphin
[18:21] <james147> (if the idea was to keep taht stuff safe from reinstalling an os)
[18:21] <c2tarun> james147: but I think my home folder is allready in /dev/sda/1
[18:22] <Peace-> stuq: screenshot?
[18:22] <james147> c2tarun: you can copy the files onto software, then just mount it over the old /home
[18:22] <stuq> is there a favored place to post one on this channel?
[18:22] <c2tarun> james147: hey I have an idea, just whether it is correct or not?
[18:23] <c2tarun> james147: I can copy my home folder from /dev/sda1 to Software, than I'll shrink dev/sda1 and free approx 10GB of space, this space i'll use to install ubuntu. now I have two questions.
[18:23] <c2tarun> james147: 1. how can i tell kubuntu that where to look for home directory
[18:24] <james147> c2tarun: yes, though you will have to change /etc/fstab on /dev/sda1 to moung the software partition to /home :)
[18:24] <c2tarun> james147: 2. During installation how can i tell ubuntu that use the home on dev/sda2
[18:24]  * genii-around ponders where the destination device "Software" resides
[18:25] <james147> c2tarun: during the partiton stage of the installer  just tell the installer to use the mount point /home, and make sure you uncheck the format option
[18:25] <stuq> Peace-: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/425291/m7.png
[18:25] <Peace-> stuq: systemsettings semantic desktop
[18:25] <Peace-> stuq: activate it
[18:25] <Peace-> i guess
[18:25] <james147> c2tarun: then you can mount /dev/sda1 somewhere and edit its /etc/fstab with an entry similar to the one that kubuntu created in the new partition
[18:25] <c2tarun> james147: Ok i got the second suggestion, but didn't exactly understood about /etc/fstab file?
[18:26] <james147> c2tarun: /etc/fstab lists all drives that get mounted at boot, if you add an entry for /home then it will get mounted at boot
[18:26] <james147> !fstab
[18:26] <stuq> Peace-: not seeing 'semantic desktop'  I have a 'desktop search'...
[18:27] <stuq> Peace-: and it is enabled already
[18:27] <james147> c2tarun: just make sur you copy the contents of /home, and not the /home folder :)
[18:27] <stuq> eh, it says Strigi is not running
[18:27] <Peace-> stuq: wait a moment
[18:27] <c2tarun> james147: this is my fstab http://paste.ubuntu.com/559632/
[18:27] <c2tarun> james147: what to add into this?
[18:28] <geekosopher> anyone experienced any showstopper after upgrading maverick to kde 4.6? just checking before upgrading
[18:30] <james147> c2tarun: /dev/sda3 /home ext4 defaults,noatime 0 0
[18:31] <james147> c2tarun: you can also replace /dev/sda3 with the UUID (like the way swap is done) or a LABEL
[18:32] <Peace-> stuq: mmm
[18:32] <Peace-> stuq: i have them activated
[18:32] <Peace-> stuq: could you just create a new user ?
[18:33] <Peace-> stuq: and test if that user has the same problem ?
[18:33] <stuq> sure i'll give it a shot
[18:33] <stuq> have to attend to a client for a bit
[18:33] <c2tarun> james147: what does defaults,noatime 0 0 means?
[18:34] <james147> defaults, sets the default options :0 noatime stops the file system updating access times when files are opened or read (this help improve preformance when reading files and almost nothing uses them :p)
[18:35] <james147> the first 0 does something... cen never remember but i think its best as 0 and the second disables boottime fscking of the partition
[18:36] <c2tarun> james147: please check whether this is correct or not? http://paste.ubuntu.com/559634/
[18:36] <james147> yup
[18:36] <james147> running "sudo mount -a"  will mount everthing in /etc/fstab, so you can test it without rebooting
[18:37] <james147> altjhough i would copy the files over first ... and i am not sure what would happen if thes are being used :p
[18:39] <c2tarun> james147: sorry to ask this, just let me summarize. These are the steps I summarized http://paste.ubuntu.com/559635/
[18:39] <james147> (just make sure you copy the contents of /home to the root of /dev/sda3  not in a subfolder
[18:40] <c2tarun> james147:  root of /dev/sda3 means directly in sda3 as I don't think there is any root there
[18:40] <james147> c2tarun: yes, it means not in any subfolders
[18:41] <c2tarun> james147:  sure, one more thing, i have to copy the contents of home folder or home folder?
[18:42] <james147> c2tarun: basically those steps are what you would do, but you wont beable to create a partition between /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda3... i would delete /dev/sda2 (the extended partition that you swap is on) so you can reuse /dev/sda2)  ... best thing to do then is create a swap file (rather then partition) probally on the new /dev/sda2
[18:44] <james147> !swapfile
[18:44] <james147> :p
[18:44] <Peace-> james147: :P
[18:44] <c2tarun> james147: it is not possible to shrink sda1 and create a partition bw sda1 and 3?
[18:45] <james147> c2tarun: you can shrink /dev/sda1, but you need to also delete /dev/sda2 so you can reuse that primary partition... it only contains swap space so it should be safe
[18:46] <james147> c2tarun: you can then create a swapfile instead of a swap partition (behaves the same, but is located on a file rather then a partition)
[18:46] <james147> although swap is not very important on you computer with that much ram :)
[18:47] <james147> (so you can ignore the warning the installer will give you about not having any swap space and create it after instalation)
[18:47]  * james147 notes that he still doesnt have any swap on his netbook with 2 gigs of ram :p and has never had a problem with it :D
[18:47] <c2tarun> james147: its getting trickier and trickier :( I would do this into pieces, first i'll try to shift my home than i'll del swap and than i'll try something else. Still do i have to copy the contents of my home folder or my home folder?
[18:48] <james147> c2tarun: :) sorry, probally not explaining it very well :)
[18:49] <c2tarun> contents of home folder means -> files in /home/tarun and home folder means complete folder
[18:50] <genii-around> personal home folder is like /home/yourname  just home folder is /home
[18:50] <c2tarun> james147:  contents of home folder means -> files in /home/tarun and home folder means complete folder
[18:51] <genii-around> so when you mount /home to sda99  then on sda99 you have only the names of the folders inside of /home
[18:51] <james147> c2tarun: i mean dont copy /home, but /home/*   (so that you dont end up with a home folder on /dev/sda3)
[18:52] <c2tarun> james147: ok so after whole operation my home folder will contain its own contents and the contents of /dev/sda3 right?
[18:52] <c2tarun> james147:  inside home folder there is a folder of my name, should i just copy that?
[18:53] <james147> c2tarun: http://paste.ubuntu.com/559645/  << thats basically what you ahve to do after copying /home
[18:53] <james147> c2tarun: yes
[18:54] <genii-around> c2tarun: When you mount /dev/sda3 to /home    whatever was in /home  directory prior to mounting will not be visible
[18:55] <james147> ^^ although still present, you just need to unmount it to see the old content again
[18:55] <genii-around> Yes
[18:57] <c2tarun> james147: something just happened, after editin fstab my dev/sda3 just vanished :( now where to copy /home/* ?
[18:58] <james147> c2tarun: whats the output of "mount"?
[18:59] <james147> and "ls /dev/sd*"?
[19:02] <genii-around> c2tarun: You shouldn't normally copy something directly to /dev/sda3   or so on. Only to the directory which it is mounted to
[19:02] <genii-around> hm
[19:03] <james147> ^^ yeah :) mount it then copy... sorry was useing the device name to identify it :p
[19:03] <c2tarun> james147: I just restored the original fstab file, wait.
[19:03] <c2tarun> james147: let me reboot.
[19:08] <c2tarun> james147: ya that partition came to life :)
[19:09] <james147> c2tarun: do you baically understand what you are doing?
[19:09] <james147>  /have to do
[19:11] <c2tarun> james147: ya, i'll copy  the contents of my home folder to sda3 and mount that drive as my home folder. Then simple deletion of swap partition and installation of ubuntu with sda3 as home partition
[19:11] <james147> c2tarun: yup, afraid i have to go now, but if you have any problems genii-aroundor Peace- should be able to help if they are still around (or anyone else thats listening)  :)
[19:11] <Moses|phone> What is kde network manager called?
[19:12] <c2tarun> james147:  sure :) thanks a lot
[19:12] <Moses|phone> Anyone know?
[19:12] <james147> Moses|phone: on maverick its a widget (i think... ) if you cant find the widgetrs then knetworkmanger
[19:15] <genii-around> c2tarun: Remember to copy files to the directory you mount /dev/sda3 into, and not to copy files directly to /dev/sda3    :)
[19:16] <c2tarun> genii-around: i just copied my /home/* directly into /dev/sda3. What should i do?
[19:17] <Moses|phone> How do I run knetwork manager from the konsole alone
[19:17] <Moses|phone> Is it the same thing as the widget?
[19:17] <c2tarun> genii-around: ok i mean i copied it to /media/Software :)
[19:18] <c2tarun> genii-around:  got it
[19:18] <peer_> Hi
[19:18] <genii-around> c2tarun: Please excuse lag, am running back and forth from work to computer, etc
[19:18] <genii-around> c2tarun: And /media/Software is the place /dev/sda3 is mounted?
[19:19] <moses> hey
[19:19] <moses> ok
[19:19] <moses> what network manager is that in the widget?
[19:19] <moses> what is that called?
[19:19] <c2tarun> genii-around: got it :) going to reboot
[19:20] <genii-around> moses: From earlier:  <james147> Moses|phone: on maverick its a widget (i think... ) if you cant find the widgetrs then knetworkmanger
[19:20] <moses> are they the same thing?
[19:20] <iulian_> type command network management
[19:20] <moses> what?
[19:20] <genii-around> moses: The name of the widget on mine seems to be called Network Management Settings
[19:21] <moses> is that a program?
[19:21] <iulian_> right click on display comand network management
[19:22] <moses> ok so it is knetworkmanager
[19:22] <moses> do you know how to run it as a pop up gui>
[19:22] <moses> ?
[19:22] <moses> i want to install this on a different WM
[19:22] <moses> i like this
[19:24] <moses> you have no idea?
[19:25] <iulian_> you lost icon ?
[19:25] <c2tarun> genii-around: hey i got an error, after changing the fstab file when i rebooted i got an error that kstartupconfig doesn't exist error code is 3. and i was not able to log in?
[19:27] <moses> iulian_, no i want to run this on a different WM
[19:27] <genii-around> c2tarun: Likely some files were not copied or not copied correctly from your original /home/name to /media/Software
[19:28] <c2tarun> genii-around: its impossible, there is just one folder in /home I copied that folder completely by `sudo cp -r tarun /media/Software/`
[19:28] <genii-around> c2tarun: Not impossible
[19:29] <genii-around> c2tarun: -r does not preserve permissions for example
[19:29] <c2tarun> genii-around: but i used sudo :(
[19:29] <genii-around> c2tarun: Also you have to specify all the hidden dot-files
[19:29] <iulian_> they should be on system settings but better dont change nothing think lan interface is auto configured
[19:30] <genii-around> c2tarun: Work needs me but I'll return in 5-7 minutes to help if you still require
[19:30] <c2tarun> genii-around: I think hidden dot files are inside /home/tarun and they must b copied with tarun, but still just let me check
[19:30] <c2tarun> genii-around: sure :)
[19:33] <c2tarun> genii-around: just ping me when you come back :) I need to ask something
[19:37] <gorgonzola> hello all! any ideas on this?
[19:37] <gorgonzola> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu/backports/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found
[19:42] <Peace-> gorgonzola: server down
[19:43] <Peace-> gorgonzola: or your use another server ...
[19:43] <Peace-> or wait
[19:43] <gorgonzola> Peace: overload because of 4.6 release?
[19:43] <gorgonzola> Peace weird thing is, it fails on update, but it's happily downloading everything with dist-upgrade...
[19:43] <Peace-> gorgonzola: bah i dunno it could be , or it could be your location that has problems
[19:44] <Peace-> :S
[19:44] <gorgonzola> well, it IS upgrading. let's see what happens after reboot. in any case, i got worried because i had never had launchpad throwing out 404 on an ifficial repo...
[19:45] <Peace-> gorgonzola: if you got problems ...
[19:45] <Peace-> read this
[19:46] <Peace-> gorgonzola: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/reinstall-kde/
[19:46] <Peace-> gorgonzola: but before that , create a new user and test if you got problems
[19:46] <Peace-> if the new user got the same problem of the older
[19:46] <Peace-> reinstall kde
[19:46] <Peace-> .
[19:48] <genii-around> c2tarun: Use sudo -a /something /somewhere-else               if you want the permissions to stay intact :)
[19:48] <genii-around> Hm
[19:49] <gorgonzola> Peace: reinstall kde becase oof a lousy 404 on a repo!?
[19:49] <gorgonzola> that sounds a ittle extreme, ain't it?
[19:50] <Peace-> gorgonzola: nope
[19:50] <Peace-> gorgonzola: if you got problems...
[19:50] <Peace-> with the installation of kde... black screen bad stuff..
[19:50] <Peace-> etc etc
[19:51] <gorgonzola> aaah, ok, but i don't have any other problem beyond this 404 on one repo. i just wanted to check if it was a known server side thing
[19:54] <Peace-> gorgonzola: where are you from ?
[19:54] <Peace-> gorgonzola: italy?
[19:55] <genii-around> Peace-: I don't think that's where columbia is
[19:56] <gorgonzola> hahaa
[19:56] <gorgonzola> no, columbia, new york ity
[19:57] <Peace-> gorgonzola = city of italy and cheese italian cheese
[19:57] <Peace-> :)
[19:57] <gorgonzola> Peace: long story, nick in use since 1994, taken from a tin-tin comic.
[19:57] <gorgonzola> Peace: but yes, all my handles re cheese names.
[19:57] <Peace-> lol
[19:58]  * Peace- is italian xD
[19:58] <Peace-> for that i  was asking
[19:58] <Peace-> anyway offtopic
[20:01]  * ct529 is italian as well
[20:01] <ct529> Peace-: I solved the problem you had a few days ago ....
[20:02] <Peace-> ct529: mm i don't remember
[20:02] <Peace-> xD
[20:02] <Peace-> was something about kde
[20:02] <Peace-> ?
[20:03] <ct529> Peace-: me neither, I just remember thinking I must tell Peace .... now it was about kde, year ....
[20:03] <ct529> Peace-: oh yes, the default desktop
[20:03] <Peace-> ah yea
[20:03] <Peace-> i remember
[20:03] <Peace-> what was the file to edit ?
[20:03] <Peace-> script?
[20:03] <Peace-> or whatever
[20:04] <ct529> Peace-: no, that was the point, there is a default configuration file, you just add one line
[20:04] <ct529> Peace-: the other ways are way to complex
[20:04] <Peace-> ct529: where is the file?
[20:04] <ct529> Peace-: wait
[20:07] <ct529> Peace-: /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/default/metadata.desktop
[20:07] <Peace-> ct529:  ty i will write on my blog about this
[20:08] <ct529> Peace-: wait! it si more complicated than that
[20:08] <ct529> Peace-: you must add two lines
[20:08] <ct529> Peace-: a section [Wallpaper]
[20:08] <Peace-> ct529: post yours?
[20:09] <Peace-> !paste
[20:09] <ct529> Peace-: and in the section defaultWallpaperTheme=name of theme
[20:09] <genii-around> c2tarun: Staying?
[20:09] <c2tarun> genii-around: ping
[20:09] <c2tarun> genii-around: u free now? I got some issues.
[20:10] <genii-around> c2tarun: When copying, use -a for recursive and preserve permissions
[20:11] <c2tarun> genii-around: ok this is the problem i was facing, i successfully mounted sda3 into home but getting error of permissions
[20:12] <genii-around> c2tarun: Yes, recopy everything but use -a   instead of -r like before
[20:12] <c2tarun> genii-around: ok thanks :)
[20:17] <c2tarun> genii-around: Thanks a lot :) it worked
[20:17] <genii-around> c2tarun: You're welcome
[20:18] <c2tarun> genii-around: going to install ubuntu now :)
[20:27] <MOP> !help kde
[20:27] <MOP> Where can I find info on updating kubuntu to kde 4.6.0
[20:27] <MOP> !kde
[20:42] <MOP> I added the backdoors but I can't find more info on updating to 4.6.0
[20:44] <moetunes> backdoors? or backports
[20:44] <moetunes> have you updated?
[20:44] <Firbewn9> Hi. Does konversation supports multi language spell checking?
[20:46] <moetunes> Firbewn9:  do you have the dictionaries for the languages installed?
[20:46] <MOP> lol yes backports
[20:46] <Firbewn9> moetunes: I believe so.
[20:47] <Firbewn9> moetunes: However I don't see a way to set it for more then one language.
[20:47] <moetunes> Firbewn9:  I'm illiterate in the one language I know, that was the only clue I could offer
[20:48] <Firbewn9> moetunes: Ok. Thanks.
[20:48] <Firbewn9> Anyone else ?
[20:49] <MOP> I added ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports to my repo
[20:49] <moetunes> MOP:  then you need to do an update to use the new repo
[20:49] <MOP> I did an apt-get update
[20:49] <moetunes> k
[20:50] <MOP> than and apt-get upgrade
[20:50] <MOP> I went to sysm monitor and about kde and its still 4.5
[20:50] <moetunes> try   apt-cache search kde | grep 4.6
[20:52] <MOP> moetunes: Trying in a second
[20:53] <MOP> I don't see it =/
[20:54] <MOP> found libwvstreams4.6-qt
[20:54] <MOP> though I don't know if I did find the right one
[20:54] <moetunes> something went wrong with your repo adding it seems
[20:55] <moetunes> I dunno what tho I don't use 4.6
[20:55] <MOP> darnish!
[20:55] <MOP> lol
[20:55] <moetunes> heh
[20:57] <genii-around> Might want to try ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta
[20:57] <MOP> maybe I added wrong too, how do you guys add repos?
[21:01] <vivien> Hi everybody ! I need some help because I haven't got any sound on amarok since migrate to 2.4.0
[21:03] <MOP> Well I guess you guys don't
[21:03] <MOP> lol
[21:06] <genii-around> MOP: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports                       for instance
[21:10] <mantas_Newbie_> hi, anyone knows how to solve problem with openoffice? It just cant open any saved or downloaded files (presentation this case)
[21:19] <murchadh> mantas_Newbie_: Can you create and save a file? Can you open that file? What is your system?
[21:20] <mantas_Newbie_> i could create new.... but i couldnt open downloaded
[21:20] <mantas_Newbie_> its kubuntu 10.10
[21:20] <mantas_Newbie_> and openoffice 3.2
[21:23] <bergo> hello
[21:24] <genii-around> !welcome | bergo
[21:24] <genii-around> Hm
[21:25] <Daskreech> mantas_Newbie_: Error?
[21:25] <mantas_Newbie_> I cant open *.pptx with OO.. but *.odp works fine
[21:25] <bergo> hope that someone can point me in the right direction. is there any easy way (apt get) to install kde 4.6 on 10.4?
[21:25] <Daskreech> !hi | bergo
[21:25] <Daskreech> genii-around: hijacked!
[21:25] <mantas_Newbie_> no error just log off
[21:26] <Daskreech> mantas_Newbie_: pptx? hmm might have some issues with that. What version of OO.o?
[21:26] <mantas_Newbie_> 3.2
[21:26] <bergo> i have backports for lucid enabled but seems like it is not enough
[21:26] <mantas_Newbie_> when i try to open pptx , i can see slides for a moment... and then sudden log off
[21:48] <rosco_y> is there an /etc/init.d script for restarting the network after I reboot my cable modem?
[21:49] <rosco_y> is "restart network-manager" the correct way to get back online after rebooting my cable modem?
[21:51] <genii-around> rosco_y: Is it an USB modem?
[21:53] <rosco_y> genii-around: I am only connected to the modem using ethernet
[21:54] <rosco_y> (actually I have the modem connected to a router, and then my pc is ethernet to the router, but I think that's the same thing?
[21:55] <genii-around> rosco_y: OK. So normally the network manager should just adjust automatically. If it lost it's IP or so you could could do something like re-issue it with sudo dhclient -r eth0&& sudo dhclient eth0
[21:55] <genii-around> rosco_y: Possibly the info which router gave by dhcp to computer ( DNS etc) needs updating
[21:56] <rosco_y> genii-around: that sounds right.
[21:56] <rosco_y> when I ping anything I get "host not found"
[21:56] <rosco_y> (I think...I'm really lost with this networking stuff)
[21:56] <genii-around> rosco_y: I'd suggest powercycle router
[21:57] <rosco_y> great...that's what I'll try next.
[21:57] <rosco_y> I kind of suspect my cable company automatically drops my connection after a certain amount of time (it feels like once per day.)
[21:58] <rosco_y> I never had this kind of problem when I was using dsl
[21:59] <rosco_y> genii-around: so would you say that if my modem has a valid connection to my provider, then power-cycling the router would update it's DNS?
[21:59] <rosco_y> (or something like that...my understanding is so weak on this.)
[22:01] <gpc> Where can I get libqt4-multimedia or is it named differently in the repos?
[22:04] <rosco_y> what are the arguments for installing kubuntu vs. installing ubuntu?
[22:04] <gpc> preference
[22:06] <rosco_y> I'm confused, when I go to the download sites, it seems that "10.10" is the latest version, but when I check my ubuntu version using the "System/About Ubuntu" menu, I seem to have 11.04 "Natty Narwhale" installed
[22:06] <genii-around> rosco_y: Apologies on lag, work needed me. But yes, if the modem is now synced with ISP, powercycling router then gets router it's proper routes and DNS
[22:06] <genii-around> ( which then gets to computer by release/renew it's dhcp )
[22:06] <rosco_y> genii-around: No appologies needed--you've been an awesome help--Thanks!
[22:07] <genii-around> rosco_y: You're welcome
[22:08] <genii-around> rosco_y: Ubuntu numbering is by year.month so 11.04 is 2011.April   which means you are running a pre-release
[22:08] <rosco_y> ooch...I didn't intend to do that--run pre-releases, that is.
[22:11] <rosco_y> OK, I'm going to try kubuntu--does anyone recommend 64 bit over 32 bit, or vise-versa?
[22:12] <genii-around> rosco_y: Whichever is best for your processor :)
[22:13] <rosco_y> genii-around: Thanks.  I have a 64 bit cpu and 8 gb RAM, but I notice that the 32 bit ubuntu download is "recommended" at the ubuntu download page.
[22:13] <ricardo> 64 bits :) if your processor permits
[22:13] <maco> rosco_y: thats just so that people who dont know what cpu architecture means dont grab one that just plain wont boot
[22:14] <rosco_y> ricardo, genii-around, maco -- Thanks!
[22:14] <maco> "hey this one says 64. 64 is more than 32 so must be better! *download* hey it wont boot! ubuntu sucks!"
[22:14] <genii-around> rosco_y: The 32bit works on both so it is safe. Also some other stuff like flash plugin used to be almost unusable under 64bit
[22:14] <maco> and java used to be 32-bit only, but that changed a few years ago
[22:14] <maco> wine too
[22:15]  * genii-around slides maco a coffee
[22:15] <maco> hahaha
[22:15] <maco> im more of a tea person, though not as much as mvo
[22:15] <rosco_y> Is the kubuntu CD download just as good as the DVD download?
[22:15] <maco> DVD download adds extra language packs
[22:15] <maco> i think thats the only difference
[22:16] <rosco_y> :) great...CD it is then...
[22:16] <maco> so if your language isnt on the CD, grab the DVD. other than that...
[22:16] <ricardo> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_32_pae&num=1
[22:16] <genii-around> Also more stuff from "main" repo so you can install more stuff from it if you use it as a local repo
[22:17] <maco> genii-around: i thought that was just ubuntu
[22:17] <maco> could look at the seeds i guess
[22:17] <genii-around> maco: Hm, perhaps. I figured it was the same for both but i could be mistaken
[22:17] <rosco_y> Guess I'll just download the DVD, and then download what I need :)
[22:18] <rosco_y> oops, meant to say "download the CD"
[22:18] <maco> genii-around: well what goes on is up to the each desktop-dev team's decision...
[22:20] <maco> eww reading seeds isnt nice
[22:20] <maco> think would need to download them, sort, and diff. too lazy
[22:22] <maco> genii-around: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download scroll to "about the dvd"
[22:22] <genii-around> maco: Good to know :)
[22:28] <markit> hi, I've upgraded maverick to kde 4.6, and now if I enter username and password I'm back to login again, any tip?
[22:28] <markit> (also with a newly created user)
[22:30] <genii-around> markit: Anything in /var/log/kdm.log      ?
[22:31] <markit> kdeinit4 communication error with launcher. exiting
[22:32] <markit> and previous
[22:32] <markit> kdemain no dbus session-bus found
[22:34] <markit> mm maybe I've found the issue googling now
[22:36] <markit> well, too tired to try again, I go to sleep
[22:39] <Daskreech> Anyone knows how to migrate akonadi across to a new computer?
[22:41] <vbox> :>
[22:43] <trichard> Daskreech: maybe you can do it with AkonadiTray
[22:43] <trichard> it has a backup function which you can restore
[22:43] <Daskreech> trichard: Hmm lets try that
[22:44] <trichard> don't know if it covers your settings though
[22:44] <Daskreech> yeah I'll find out
[23:51] <tripp> hey i has a question i have an intel centrino wireless n-1000 network card on a lenovo laptop
[23:51] <tripp> for some reason i cannot get the wireless working
[23:51] <tripp> anyone have a solution?
[23:52] <tripp> i found a linux drivers on this website but im not sure how to add them to the repos and use them :(
[23:52] <tripp> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/iwlwifi/iwlwifi-2.6.git
[23:54] <valorie> to use something from git, you usually git clone
[23:54] <valorie> and then git pull for updates
[23:54] <valorie> cd to the build dir, and make install
[23:55] <valorie> or sudo make install, depending on where you put the src
[23:55] <valorie> so you would not be adding to the repos
[23:56] <valorie> would be much easier to find the driver you need in the repos or just use jockey
[23:56] <valorie> !wireless
[23:58] <james147> tripp: this might be helpful:
[23:58] <james147> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/663298


[00:04] <Guest53617> hey guys. I have a question about using a usb flash drive and fat32 vs ntfs
[00:05] <Guest53617> I want to switch from ubuntu to mint
[00:05] <Guest53617> and keep the few files I want to take with me on a flash drive
[00:06] <Guest53617> hello?
[01:03] <rick_h_> snap-l: if you get bored can you try another fresh install please? Changed the path to be full on the download-cache and seems to work here.
[01:15] <snap-l> running now
[01:17] <snap-l> No distributions at all found for colorama (from -r requirements.txt (line 11))
[01:17] <snap-l> (fresh checkout(
[01:18] <rick_h_> ok, removed it and pushed again
[01:18] <rick_h_> a quick grep finds no hits in the code any longer
[01:22] <snap-l> kk
[01:22] <snap-l>   Could not find any downloads that satisfy the requirement Paste==<IP_ADDRESS> (from -r requirements.txt (line 17))
[01:22] <snap-l> Have to pick J up. bbl.
[01:23] <rick_h_> hah, ok thanks
[01:28] <snap-l> she's not quite done yet
[01:28] <snap-l> on my phone. :)
[01:31] <snap-l> need paste set in downloadcache
[01:32] <snap-l> also py-crypt
[01:32] <snap-l> py-bcrypt, rather
[01:37] <rick_h_> snap-l: yea, just pushed up 6 missing packages into the cache
[01:37] <rick_h_> tried to do a diff from the req.txt and ls of the download-cache :)
[01:37] <rick_h_> not the best, but close enough to find some
[01:42] <snap-l> not seeing changes
[01:42] <rick_h_> snap-l: on the download-cache?
[01:43] <rick_h_> snap-l: make deps should upgrade the download-cache with the missing deps?
[01:43] <snap-l> one sec.
[01:44] <snap-l> zope
[01:45] <rick_h_> zope.configuration ?
[01:46] <rick_h_> hmm, crap
[01:52] <rick_h_> ok, well more fun trying tonight. Wheee
[02:31] <snap-l> Yeah, still getting zope.configuration==3.7.3
[02:38] <rick_h_> snap-l: even now? /me though I pushed that up.
[02:39] <rick_h_> hmm, it's a .zip. Wonder if that's an issue.
[02:40] <rick_h_> done for tonight though.  I must have something setup strnage
[11:40]  * rick_h_ does the lol dance https://www.archlinux.org/news/mariadb-replaces-mysql-in-repositories/
[12:25] <derekv> money soup
[12:25] <derekv> i'm going to be getting a pair of second hand intel atom supermicro servers
[12:28] <brousch> Is that a microserver in your pocket or are you just a little happy to see me?
[12:32] <derekv> haha well the first thing is to replace a celeron 433 server thats currently running 11 virtual machines
[12:32] <derekv> but the funny thing is that the celeron 433 is overkill already
[12:33] <derekv> dual core 1.6 atom should be just as good though ^_^
[12:41] <snap-l> Will the Atom machines be able to virtualize intel instructions?
[12:42] <snap-l> or am I living way in the past.
[12:59] <rick_h_> snap-l: you're thinking ARM I think.
[12:59] <rick_h_> arm is a diff compile target
[13:14] <snap-l> ok
[13:14] <snap-l> Yeah, I'm thinking ARM
[13:17] <rick_h_> https://twitter.com/tapbot_paul/status/316367555696656384 lol for your morning
[13:18] <snap-l> Seriously?
[13:19] <snap-l> I don't understand how people can get upset over $3 for an application
[13:19] <snap-l> I've written off several apps that I've purchased.
[13:23] <brousch> geez
[13:24] <rick_h_> at least he came to his senses, though it was basically a partially veiled threat to lose your appleid account
[13:25] <rick_h_> man, so glad I fixed the space picks up a new tag and reloads on bookie
[13:27] <brousch> I am unable to parse that sentence
[13:27] <rick_h_> brousch: go to https://bmark.us and enter 'regex' into the filter and hit the space bar
[13:28] <brousch> I have no bookmarks
[13:29] <rick_h_> ok, well anyway. There was a bug where using enter would show you the tag, but not reload the bookmarks
[13:29] <rick_h_> sorry, not enter, but space
[13:29] <brousch> ah
[13:29] <rick_h_> fixed it this weekend and used it and now happy again
[13:29] <brousch> works well now
[14:48] <dzho> oh, bookie.  thanks for the mention, rick_h_
[15:02] <brousch> TIL Java 8 exists and can be installed via PPA https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java
[15:36] <greg-g> who is that webupd8team?
[15:36] <snap-l> "Frustrated with a bug that never got fixed? Have a great idea for improving the Java SE platform? See how to contribute for information on making contributions to the platform.
[15:37] <jrwren_> I've been bit twice now by a stale pyc file being there when a py file was deleted.
[15:37] <jrwren_> How do you deal with this?
[15:38] <jrwren_> make clean:\n\tfind . -name '*.pyc' -exec rm {}+    <- ? is one way, any suggestions for less heavy handed solutions?
[15:39] <rick_h_> rm **/*.pyc
[15:39] <rick_h_> <3 zsh
[15:46] <snap-l> find . -name "*.pyc" -delete
[16:22] <snap-l> I <3 these rewards programs:
[16:22] <snap-l> "Craig, Reward Yourself with 50,000 Bonus Points"
[16:23] <snap-l> I already did, and I made myself a little pirate hat to go with it.
[16:36] <jrwren_> -delete ? really?
[16:52] <snap-l> yup
[17:08] <brousch> jrwren: You could write a daemon that constantly scans your project to find and remove orphaned .pyc files
[17:10] <jrwren> ugh
[17:10] <brousch> Do it well and praise may be heaped upon you ;)
[17:12] <snap-l> Seriously? :)
[17:13] <snap-l> Who writes filesystem scanning daemons anymore?
[17:13] <brousch> I'm thinking along the line of Sass
[17:13] <snap-l> What you really need is a fuse filesystem with inotify hooks
[17:13] <snap-l> where .pyc files will disappear automatically if no python process is in the process table
[17:13] <snap-l> or they could be given a TTL
[17:14]  * snap-l runs off to patent this brilliant idea.
[17:16] <brousch> How do you run PEP8 checkers and such? Could you hook a script in the same way?
[17:16] <rick_h_> sure, on vim au flags and such
[17:16] <snap-l> I don't see why not, but that might require a separate filesystem. ;)
[17:16] <rick_h_> or you can just tell it to not create pyc files
[17:17] <snap-l> rick_h_: Shush
[17:17] <snap-l> rick_h_: My retirement is now in the balance.
[17:17] <rick_h_> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/154443/how-to-avoid-pyc-files
[17:17] <snap-l> DON'T CLICK ON THAT LINK!
[17:17] <snap-l> LALALALALALALALA
[17:17] <snap-l> PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT MAN PASTING STACKOVERFLOW LINKS
[17:17] <snap-l> Oh, wait, fuse is hard to implement
[17:18] <snap-l> Well, there goes that idea. :)
[17:18] <rick_h_> hah
[17:18] <snap-l> THANKS ALOT OBAMA
[17:23] <jrwren> rofl, snap-l how much sugar did U have at lunch?
[17:23] <rick_h_> yea, I think someone got his coffee late today
[17:33] <snap-l> har har
[17:47] <jrwren> i seriously hate python.
[17:48] <rick_h_> lol
[17:48] <jrwren> or more accurately.  The technical debt here is killing me.
[17:48] <greg-g> you hate all languages, but then you love all languages, I don't get you
[17:48] <greg-g> :P
[17:48] <rick_h_> jrwren: yea, I'm getting ancy to get onto 3.3
[17:49] <rick_h_> jrwren: but even then there's still much tech debt in it
[17:49] <jrwren> same.
[17:49] <jrwren> or rather, 3.4 this fall.
[17:49] <jrwren> 3.4 is going to RAWK!
[17:49] <jrwren> greg-g: that is my thing. I love/hate each and every programming language.
[17:50] <greg-g> :)
[18:09] <snap-l> I think that's true of any tech
[18:09] <snap-l> You haven't really used it until you find that seedy underbelly of "ick" that you don't like about it
[18:09] <greg-g> no tech is free of ick, except LISP
[18:10] <snap-l> LISP is ick turned inside out
[18:10] <greg-g> right, no ick
[18:11] <snap-l> It's like Zen. All you see are people sitting in meditation
[18:11] <snap-l> but internally there's something magical and awesome happening during meditation
[18:42] <brousch> Django is ickless
[18:44] <rick_h_> yep, just pure disease ridden :P
[18:46] <jrwren> lol @ django ickless.
[18:46] <jrwren> django is nearly all ick.
[19:40] <brousch> It is weird to see my name on Python Planet http://planet.python.org/
[19:42] <rick_h_> woot!
[19:47] <snap-l> brousch: Python ODBC, eh? :)
[19:47] <brousch> pypyodbc
[19:47] <brousch> All I did was suggest it
[19:47] <brousch> Works very well for pulling from Access97 and FoxPro so far
[20:29] <jjesse> brousch, does that mean you are famous?
[20:29] <brousch> ha
[20:29] <brousch> Not even Internt famous
[23:04] <derekv> lisp - it doesn't have a lot of parathesis, they just took everything else out. ;)