[08:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:30] <vbgunz> anyone familiar with virtualization? Running Kubuntu, what is the fastest virtualization I can have for a Windows OS like XP?
[08:31] <combo> !konserve
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konserve - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <AmyRose> Yeah, why use Totem to play DVD's? O_o
[08:31] <AmyRose> Kaffeine is great for that
[08:32] <Ben_Cs> hello. i run ubuntu. considering kde. is kde more user friendly then gnome?
[08:32] <AmyRose> Ben_Cs: Yes. :P
[08:32] <combo> how to check out which version of KDE i have on my kub.7.04??
[08:33] <AmyRose> combo: Alt-F2, type "kcontrol" and hit Enter
[08:33] <AmyRose> combo: It will tell you what you're running
[08:33] <Ben_Cs> Amy_Rose: cause gnome suddenly failed completely on me. so i think of trying kde...
[08:34] <AmyRose> Ben_Cs: I really recommend KDE because it is focused on giving you as many config options as possible through the dialog boxes rather than making you use a gconfeditor
[08:34] <[pyro] > Ben_Cs: i think its much better. Besides Linus uses kde ;)
[08:34] <combo> there is written that i have v3.5.7 - is this latest version?
[08:34] <Ben_Cs> as well as ubuntu channel is packed with ppl so no one gives a damn about helping
[08:34] <combo> AmyRose: thanks a lot :)
[08:34] <AmyRose> combo: You're welcome
[08:34] <AmyRose> combo: You may also find "kinfocenter" helpful
[08:35] <combo> AmyRose: oh, great!
[08:35] <AmyRose> I don't understand why people think GNOME is better. KDE is so much more fun to use, I think
[08:35] <Ben_Cs> downloading kde now. will try
[08:35] <AmyRose> combo: Yeah, kinfocenter is like the ultimate system info utility :D
[08:35] <combo> AmyRose: i've been using ubuntu since i discovered Kubuntu :D
[08:35] <combo> KDE ROX :D:D:D
[08:35] <AmyRose> combo: I started liking Ubuntu when Kubuntu Hoary came out back in 2005
[08:36] <AmyRose> and yes, I agree, KDE ROX!!!!!
[08:36] <Ben_Cs> AmyRose: anyway i've been using kde apps on gnome cause they're much better then gnome apps
[08:36] <combo> AmyRose: omg... so much time u use linux?!
[08:36] <AmyRose> combo: I've been using Linux as my only OS since March 28, 2004
[08:36] <AmyRose> Every March 28, I celebrate Screw Microsoft Day
[08:36] <combo> AmyRose: and why not microshit ?
[08:37] <AmyRose> combo: Because I don't trust them.
[08:37] <Ben_Cs> or winblows day?
[08:37] <combo> AmyRose: very good answer :D:D
[08:37] <AmyRose> plus, I fail to see what's so great about an OS that crashes when you open 20 windows
[08:37] <[pyro] > heh
[08:37] <[pyro] > bbl
[08:37] <combo> AmyRose: do u use compiz or beryl on your machine ?
[08:37] <AmyRose> Some of my friends who use Windows were like "WHAT?! You can open a that many windows at once?!"
[08:38] <AmyRose> combo: I only use it when I want to show off.
[08:38] <AmyRose> combo: Since I give presentations in college, in a major that has nothing to do with computers, I enjoy plugging my Kubuntu laptop into the projector and playing with Beryl before the show
[08:38] <AmyRose> lol
[08:39] <combo> AmyRose: same me :) beryl is getting bored with time :/
[08:39] <AmyRose> combo: I would use it, except that it's BUGGY
[08:39] <AmyRose> I can't hold that against them though
[08:39] <AmyRose> It's beta software
[08:39] <AmyRose> So I prefer to use kwin for now
[08:39] <combo> at my PC it has been slowing my system at all
[08:40] <Berzerker> anyone here?
[08:40] <AmyRose> !hi
[08:40] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:40] <combo> so i decided do take it away
[08:40] <Berzerker> eh
[08:40] <AmyRose> Berzerker: Yes, we're here
[08:40] <Berzerker> ok
[08:40] <Berzerker> so
[08:40] <AmyRose> Berzerker: What's your question?
[08:40] <combo> hi
[08:40] <AmyRose> :3
[08:40] <Berzerker> my sound doesn't work
[08:40] <underdog5004> I'm here too
[08:40] <Berzerker> all channels are unmuted at 100
[08:40] <AmyRose> !sound | Berzerker
[08:40] <ubotu> Berzerker: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:40] <combo> 'what's your question?' -> hahah that was good :D
[08:41] <AmyRose> combo: haha
[08:41] <AmyRose> Berzerker: I hope that helps you
[08:41] <Berzerker> it doesn't
[08:41] <Berzerker> I've tried all that
[08:41] <AmyRose> You did?
[08:41] <Berzerker> yes
[08:41] <Berzerker> I've found those sites before hand
[08:41] <Berzerker> googling
[08:42] <AmyRose> Berzerker: OK, what sound chipset are you using?
[08:42] <Berzerker> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[08:43] <Berzerker> I'm using kubuntu on a new macbook pro
[08:43] <Berzerker> according to the install tutorials, sound should work out of the box.
[08:44] <AmyRose> Berzerker: You did make sure the snd_intel8x0 is loaded, right?
[08:44] <Berzerker> uh
[08:44] <underdog5004> lol
[08:44] <AmyRose> Berzerker: You need to make sure the module is loaded
[08:44] <Berzerker> lol
[08:44] <Berzerker> how do I do that
[08:44] <AmyRose> ok, lsmod | grep intel
[08:44] <Berzerker> k...
[08:44] <AmyRose> If that returns something starting with "snd", you have the module loaded
[08:45] <Berzerker> it returns 5 things
[08:45] <Berzerker> with snd
[08:45] <AmyRose> Hmm...
[08:46] <AmyRose> Berzerker: Can you please try removing all of your sound modules by doing this a couple of times? sudo rmmod $(lsmod | awk '{print $1}' | grep snd)
[08:47] <AmyRose> Oh, and quit your mixer too
[08:47] <Berzerker> how
[08:47] <underdog5004> Berzerker, she just told you how.
[08:47] <AmyRose> Right-click that speaker thingy by your clock and click Quit
[08:47] <Berzerker> oh ok
[08:47] <Berzerker> underdog5004, no she didn't
[08:47] <underdog5004> oops, sorry Berzerker
[08:47] <underdog5004> my bad
[08:47] <Berzerker> lol
[08:47] <AmyRose> I have had a lot of experience with command line magic :D
[08:47] <AmyRose> It's fun to come up with concoctions like that
[08:48] <Berzerker> 6 errors
[08:48] <Berzerker> dealing with things being in use
[08:48] <AmyRose> Berzerker: OK, let's try this
[08:48] <Berzerker> k
[08:48] <AmyRose> We're going to kill everything that is using the sound device
[08:49] <Berzerker> I might have to kill XChat
[08:49] <AmyRose> You shouldn't have to
[08:49] <Berzerker> oh
[08:49] <Berzerker> ok
[08:49] <AmyRose> I will give you a command that should do it in one fell swoop
[08:49] <Berzerker> kk
[08:49] <AmyRose> kill $(lsof /dev/snd/* | grep -v PID | awk '{print $2}')
[08:49] <Ben_Cs> wow - interesting: installing xubuntu-desktop, doesn't change boot image. installing kubuntu-dekstop, changes loading image to kubuntu. very nice :)
[08:50] <AmyRose> Berzerker: Yes, I realize I have too much time on my hands. =P
[08:50] <Berzerker> lol
[08:50] <Berzerker> k
[08:50] <Berzerker> kill: usage: kill [-s sigspec | -n signum | -sigspec]  pid | jobspec ... or kill -l [sigspec]
[08:50] <AmyRose> Yeah, I learned all of this last year
[08:51] <Berzerker> that's what supposed to output?
[08:51] <AmyRose> OK, Berzerker, that means you have nothing using the sound device, so keep doing this command until you get no more errors: sudo rmmod $(lsmod | awk '{print $1}' | grep snd)
[08:51] <Berzerker> k
[08:51] <Berzerker> did it
[08:51] <AmyRose> should be about 3 times
[08:51] <AmyRose> ok
[08:51] <Berzerker> no errors the first time
[08:51] <Berzerker> lol
[08:51] <AmyRose> Good
[08:52] <AmyRose> that means everything's unloaded
[08:52] <Ben_Cs> hmmmm. love the kde eye candy :)
[08:52] <Berzerker> k
[08:52] <Berzerker> now what
[08:52] <AmyRose> Berzerker: OK, what I'm going to have you do is reload them and then pastebin the dmesg output
[08:52] <AmyRose> Berzerker: I will tell you how to do this
[08:52] <Berzerker> k
[08:53] <AmyRose> Berzerker: sudo modprobe snd_intel8x0
[08:53] <Berzerker> k
[08:53] <Berzerker> done
[08:54] <AmyRose> Berzerker: Then type in "dmesg", and paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:55] <dim> howdy all, what is used in Kubuntu instead of aptitude?
[08:55] <Berzerker> http://pastebin.org/976
[08:55] <AmyRose> dim:  you can use aptitude or Adept
[08:56] <AmyRose> dim: I still use Synaptic myself
[08:56] <dim> i see
[08:57] <AmyRose> dim: But the default in Kubuntu is Adept
[08:57] <AmyRose> Berzerker: Hmm, that last line is saying the interrupt for your sound device is disabled
[08:57] <AmyRose> because the PCI ID matched your sound card
[08:58] <AmyRose> I think that may be your problem
[08:58] <Berzerker> so how do I fix it?
[08:58] <AmyRose> Berzerker: It has an option to work around buggy IRQ's
[08:59] <AmyRose> Berzerker: Can you please sudo rmmod snd_intel8x0 ?
[08:59] <Berzerker> done
[08:59] <AmyRose> ok, Berzerker, let's try this: sudo modprobe snd_intel8x0 buggy_irq=1
[08:59] <Berzerker> k
[09:00] <AmyRose> Now, start up kmix (Alt-F2, type "kmix"), adjust your volumes, and try again
[09:00] <AmyRose> Berzerker: If this works, we'll have to make this permanent
[09:00] <Berzerker> it says
[09:00] <Berzerker> it seems that kmix isn't running
[09:00] <Berzerker> and when I open it
[09:00] <Berzerker> nothing shows up in the window
[09:01] <AmyRose> Does typing "alsamixer" work?
[09:01] <Berzerker> no such device
[09:01] <Ben_Cs> added layout. marked shift-alt toggle. still shift alt wont change layout. only klicking will change. plaese help
[09:02] <AmyRose> Berzerker: You sure the module got loaded?
[09:02] <AmyRose> Berzerker: can you please type lsmod | grep snd_intel ?
[09:02] <Berzerker> returned 5 different things
[09:02] <Berzerker> snd_intel8x0 has 0
[09:02] <Berzerker> next to it
[09:03] <Berzerker> after 34204
[09:03] <Berzerker> don't know if that matter
[09:03] <Berzerker> s
[09:05] <greg> si, is there a command for dim the lights back     no ?
[09:05] <AmyRose> greg: Huh?
[09:06] <Ben_Cs> AmyRose: how to change layout switching toggle?
[09:06] <AmyRose> Ben_Cs: What layoug switching toggle?
[09:06] <AmyRose> layout*
[09:06] <greg> to make is the laptop not so bright    no ?
[09:06] <Berzerker> AmyRose: any ideas?
[09:07] <stdin> greg: do the laptop keys not work?
[09:07] <combo> AmyRose: oh, u still on-line, so maybe u can tell me how to add this toolbar for music: http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8835/screenxw6.png ? :}
[09:07] <greg> no, no keys for this,   need a command    no ?
[09:07] <combo> this is screen from Kub.LTS - i had no problem with it, but in feisty something changed :/
[09:08] <stdin> combo: it's the "Media Controller" applet
[09:08] <combo> i can't find this in applets ?
[09:08] <combo> searching but can't
[09:08] <Ben_Cs> AmyRose: i added keyboard layout IL. but alt-shift wont change layout
[09:08] <combo> in LTS it was surely in right place.. but in feisty just can't find it
[09:08] <AmyRose> Ben_Cs: KDE uses Ctrl-Alt-K
[09:08] <combo> in applets menu
[09:09] <stdin> combo: installed kicker-applets?
[09:09] <cp-r> after kernel upgrade no nvidia ...???
[09:09] <AmyRose> Ben_Cs: You can configure keyboard shortcuts by going to the K Menu --> System Settings, then clicking on Keyboard and Mouse
[09:09] <stdin> greg: "echo 50|sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness"         ?
[09:09] <combo> stdin: ok, installed :)
[09:09] <stdin> combo: check it now
[09:10] <thehcdreamer> hello, anyone know how to use ekiga? i have a lot of problem with sound
[09:10] <AmyRose> !ekiga
[09:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ekiga - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <AmyRose> darn
[09:10] <combo> stdin: yes, yes! IT WORKS! :D:D thanks a lot :*:*
[09:10] <AmyRose> thehcdreamer: Does your sound work in other programs?
[09:11] <thehcdreamer> AmyRose, yes
[09:11] <stdin> combo: no problem :)
[09:11] <Ben_Cs> AmyRose: ctr-alt-k changes to IL layout but wont change back to US layout...
[09:11] <AmyRose> combo: Good thing stdin knew because I didn't know.
[09:11] <greg> stdin: she says is no more file there
[09:11] <combo> in past i used AUTOMATIX so  maybe it was installed automaticly
[09:11] <AmyRose> Ben_Cs: You may want to change the keyboard shortcuts by going into System Settings --> Keyboard and Mouse
[09:12] <thehcdreamer> AmyRose, i googled a lot and i think is an ekiga problem, but i think there is a way to resolve it, for example there are a lot of sound driver in the list, such as PCMU, PCMA ecc
[09:12] <AmyRose> thehcdreamer: I never got ekiga working myself, so I don't know...
[09:12] <cp-r> new kernel nvidia doesn't work anymore need some help
[09:12] <stdin> greg: have a look in the /sys/class/backlight/ directory, in one of the subdirectories there will be a file called "brightness", use that one
[09:13] <greg> stdin: she says is no director calling this name
[09:13] <stdin> greg: is there a /proc/acpi/video/ ?
[09:14] <AmyRose> thehcdreamer: Since ekiga is a GNOME program, did you try #ubuntu instead?
[09:14] <greg> si.
[09:14] <stdin> greg: what's in there?
[09:15] <jaxon_> Any ways to eliminate screen adjustmenteverytime switching from kubuntu to windows n vice versa...thx
[09:15] <thehcdreamer> AmyRose, yes with not success, but maybe is a problem of the router, infact the problem is only with sip protocol
[09:15] <greg> greg@laptop-7:~$ ls /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/
[09:15] <greg> brightness  EDID  info  state
[09:15] <slougi> jaxon_: screen adjustment?
[09:15] <AmyRose> thehcdreamer: Yeah, Ekiga has awful NAT support
[09:15] <AmyRose> or lack thereof!
[09:15] <stdin> greg: "echo 50|sudo tee /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness"         ?
[09:16] <thehcdreamer> AmyRose, do you know about ALSA 1.0.9rc2? i have the rc1 and maybe it can resolve
[09:16] <AmyRose> thehcdreamer: What version of (K)ubuntu are you using?
[09:16] <jaxon_> slougi: i have to press auto adjustment each time i enter into a different OS....something i need to do before installing?
[09:16] <thehcdreamer> AmyRose, feisty, and i have download this version in july
[09:16] <greg> si,  it is work,  much  thank you.
[09:17] <thehcdreamer> AmyRose, but i still have the rc1 and I don't know why
[09:17] <AmyRose> jaxon_: Are you using a CRT monitor?
[09:17] <slougi> jaxon_: do you mean the image is offset into some direction?
[09:17] <combo> if i have Direct Rendering: YES, it means that i have installed drivers already ? :)
[09:17] <AmyRose> jaxon_: Your problem seems to be caused by the video settings not being the same in both OSes
[09:18] <Ben_Cs> AmyRose: i checked the menu you told me to. but still the shortcut for switching layout is: alt-ctrl-k. but it changes only forward. not back to previous layout
[09:18] <praecox> hey guys
[09:18] <combo> beside the way i've been trying to install them ? :]
[09:18] <praecox> I'm using Kubuntu Gutsy
[09:18] <AmyRose> Ben_Cs: Did you try changing it?
[09:18] <AmyRose> praecox: Then try #ubuntu+1
[09:18] <praecox> AmyRose, ok, will do. thanks.
[09:18] <AmyRose> praecox: You're welcome... that's where Gutsy questions should go for now :3
[09:19] <praecox> I see, not a problem at all for me.
[09:19] <Ben_Cs> AmyRose: no matter what keys i assin to the opperation. still changes layout only forward
[09:19] <AmyRose> Ben_Cs: Then try something that includes the spacebar or other keys that don't change between the two layouts
[09:19] <jaxon_> AmyRose: i dont use a monitor....it must be a LCD...how do i go about fixing the video settings
[09:19] <slougi> you don't use a monitor?
[09:20] <AmyRose> Ben_Cs: It sounds like your problem is caused by the keys changing between the two layouts
[09:20] <jaxon_> i think it is the H-position being slightly out of position
[09:21] <slougi> jaxon_: another thing is that some drivers just differ between windows and X in how they send the signal. for example the windows nvidia driver, the linux binary, and the nv driver shipped with X will all position the picture at slightly different points (at least on crt displays)
[09:21] <AmyRose> jaxon_: I thought LCD's had an auto-fix setting
[09:21] <jaxon_> slougi: i use an a screen
[09:21] <kraut> moin
[09:21] <Ben_Cs> AmyRose: why would key shortcuts change between layouts?
[09:21] <slougi> jaxon_: in my vocabulary that's the same thing :)
[09:22] <jaxon_> slougi: so basically cant be fix then?
[09:22] <slougi> jaxon_: i still couldn't figure out what it is that changes
[09:22] <slougi> you didn't actually say
[09:22] <thehcdreamer> Anyone know how to upgrade to ALSA 1.0.9rc2 or higher?
[09:23] <jaxon_> slougi: yes it must be an LCD if it's only a couple of inches thick
[09:23] <Ben_Cs> AmyRose: got what u mean. ctrl-alt-K isn't global. when in IL layout the K keys is my lang letter instead of K. added alternative shortcut in my languge, now works fine
[09:23] <slougi> jaxon_: yes, but why do you have to run the screen redetect?
[09:23] <yeniklasorr> I see a different K menu from another linux dist. Is there any on kubuntu ?
[09:23] <AmyRose> Ben_Cs: Yay!
[09:24] <AmyRose> Ben_Cs: I use just the US and US International layouts, so I didn't know
[09:24] <jaxon_> slougi: i still use windows so have to switch back n forth from time to time
[09:24] <AmyRose> jaxon_: Why would anyone need Windows?
[09:24] <AmyRose> :P
[09:24] <yeniklasorr> AmyRose : for photoshop or video editing
[09:24] <Ben_Cs> AmyRose: thanks for the help
[09:25] <slougi> jaxon_: i'm almost getting the feeling that you are trolling me :-) what is it about the image output that changes between windows and linux?
[09:25] <AmyRose> Ben_Cs: You're welcome. I hope you like KDE
[09:25] <dvm> Is there any API to switch/change the SCIM language?
[09:25] <jaxon_> i m still a newbie to linux n also need to use certain programs that i havent figured out with wine
[09:25] <combo> why in amarok (under feisty) doesn't work shortcut LEFT WIN+c to pause the music like e.g. in Dapper ?
[09:26] <jaxon_> slougi: the aligment of the screen is not the same
[09:26] <yeniklasorr> combo : just middle click to on amarok icon
[09:27] <combo> yeniklasorr: THX :D
[09:27] <slougi> jaxon_: right, one thing you can do is play with modelines in xorg.conf, you can for example use powerstrip on windows to figure out the modeline and add that to the config. i haven't actually ever done this myself though :)
[09:28] <Ben_Cs> well i'm off. see u later ppl
[09:28] <combo> if i downloaded some new KDM themes, how i can install them ?
[09:28] <jaxon_> slougi: ok ...how do i get to xorg.conf on the gui
[09:28] <AmyRose> jaxon_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:28] <AmyRose> in a terminal
[09:29] <AmyRose> it's a nice wizard that steps you through it
[09:29] <jaxon_> AmyRose: cheers
[09:29] <AmyRose> XD
[09:29] <combo> is there better to install COMPIZ via 'sudo apt-get install compiz' or with SYNAPTIC package manager ?
[09:30] <AmyRose> combo: It shouldn't matter
[09:30] <slougi> AmyRose: that doesn't work in this case
[09:30] <AmyRose> oh
[09:30] <AmyRose> sorry, slougi ^^;
[09:30] <slougi> jaxon_: it's just a flat text file that you must manually edit, you can find it at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:30] <combo> AmyRose: osk
[09:30] <combo> *ok
[09:31] <AmyRose> combo: They are both frontends to the same thing, so it really shouldn't matter
[09:31] <AmyRose> ooh, 333 nicks!
[09:31] <NickPresta> heh
[09:32] <bobbi> I'm a linux noob who wants to get some info on simple network settings in kubuntu
[09:32] <AmyRose> bobbi: If you're using Kubuntu Feisty, you should be able to use Network Manager or the System Settings tool
[09:33] <phimic> hello all
[09:33] <phimic> is kxdocker broken in kubuntu 7.04?
[09:34] <bobbi> amy rose thankyou - i am unclear on what domain name means  under domain name system tab
[09:34] <combo> AmyRose: what was command to get to the kControlCenter? :D
[09:34] <bobbi> is it user defined similar to workgroup in windows?
[09:35] <NickPresta> phimic, if you have a XGL environment, try avant-window-navigator
[09:35] <NickPresta> !avant
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <bobbi> i can wait amyrose
[09:35] <zdadrdem_> phimic kxdocker works for me, but I compiled it myself
[09:35] <AmyRose> combo: kcontrol
[09:36] <AmyRose> bobbi: You shouldn't need to fill that in...
[09:36] <AmyRose> bobbi:  You can use something like "localdomain" if you need to put something there
[09:36] <combo> AmyRose: k
[09:36] <AmyRose> combo: You're welcome
[09:36] <AmyRose> :D
[09:36] <phimic> zdadrdem_: i comiled it too but it is black and has a very huge height
[09:37] <bobbi> amyrose thankyou i wasn't sure - but now i understand
[09:37] <zdadrdem_> phimic I also had this problem some months ago, but suddenly it worked
[09:38] <phimic> zdadrdem_: do you know how to fix that
[09:38] <NickPresta> I can't even get kxdocker to work from the repo.
[09:38] <zdadrdem_> phimic, no, sorry :-(
[09:38] <phimic> NickPresta: i tried kooldock but seems to be buggy
[09:38] <phimic> zdadrdem_: ok thank you
[09:39] <bobbi> amyrose: should i also leave hostname blank? [i have a small home network]
[09:40] <phimic> NickPresta: do you use avant-window-navigator now?
[09:40] <AmyRose> bobbi: It's best to give your computers hostnames. You can pretty much name them whatever you want
[09:41] <NickPresta> phimic, I rarely use the docks anymore, since I have a much larger screen but I prefer AWN purely for it's eyecandy. It looks pretty and does the job of a basic dock.
[09:42] <mrksbrd> i need help getting my usb harddrive working under ubuntu, can anyone give me a hand mounting the device?????????
[09:42] <NickPresta> !mount
[09:42] <mrksbrd> !mount
[09:42] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:42] <vbgunz> anyone know how to get the old logout screen back?
[09:42] <bobbi> amyrose: I have done that. Thanks again for your time. I'm much happier about my setup now.
[09:42] <mrksbrd> no bots kicked back anything
[09:44] <noiesmo> hey all looking for a way to log bandwidth used on some pcs on network they have static IP and go thru a local proxy server
[09:45] <bobbi> noiesmo: i have been using knemo and am well pleased with it
[09:45] <NickPresta> noiesmo, Squid Proxy has a way to monitor and restrict time/bandwidth, IIRC.
[09:46] <noiesmo> bobbi, yeah but these a M$ boxes and I don't want the users to know I'm checking there total bandwidth on internet
[09:46] <bobbi> dumeter?
[09:46] <noiesmo> NickPresta, I will check it
[09:47] <mrksbrd> the drive shows up in device manager, and also when i plug it in it does recognize the drive, but when i click open in new window....it stops there....any ideas???
[09:48] <mrksbrd> i'm confused because when I put my thumb drive in it picks it up right away and allows me to access it
[09:51] <phimic> NickPresta: does the app support minimized windows as well?
[09:52] <combo> crap! i downloaded many wallpapers with 'DOWNLOAD NEW WALLPAPERS' in desktop config ... but i don't know where it was downloaded ? :| what is file:///root/.kde/ dir?
[09:53] <noiesmo> NickPresta, I thinks ipac-ng seems to be the way installed on the proxy server it can  be set to log all bandwidth from any given ip address
[09:53] <combo> but maybe those wallpapers didn't download cuz i can't find them at all ?! :]
[09:53] <AmyRose> combo: Are you running as root?!
[09:54] <combo> AmyRose: not sure :)
[09:54] <combo> AmyRose: it was all automatic :]
[09:54] <AmyRose> combo: Go in a terminal and type "whoami" to find out
[09:54] <mrksbrd1> sorry, my connection dropped, can anyone help me get this usb hard drive mounted???
[09:55] <combo> there is written that i'm combo ;P
[09:55] <Assid> heya
[09:55] <Assid> anyone here using a samba pdc?
[09:55] <combo> but in KDE option there is little button in left donw corner called ADMINISTRATION
[09:55] <AmyRose> combo: Then /root/.kde will not contain your settings :P
[09:56] <combo> AmyRose: so those wallpapers haven't downloaded?
[09:57] <combo> AmyRose: yes... i can see now that those wallpapers aren't downloaded on my machine CRAP! so how can i become a root ?
[09:58] <AmyRose> combo: You should not have to be root just to install wallpapers
[09:58] <combo> but after clicking they're downloading to the /root/.kde dir ? :]
[09:59] <combo> which probably doesn't exist :/
[10:00] <mrksbrd1> combo: if your using KDE just go to settings, appearance & themes, background, u can use the GUI base app to install wallpapers
[10:02] <combo> mrksbrd1: wait a sec... Appearance... and what then ?
[10:03] <mrksbrd1> appearence & themes, then backgrounds
[10:03] <combo> i don't think i have that option (kub.feisty) :S
[10:04] <combo> OK HAVE IT!
[10:04] <combo> in DeskTop -> background
[10:04] <combo> and i'm using GUI base
[10:04] <combo> bu where is this ? :D
[10:06] <combo> no way! i installed COPMPIC (with apt-get) and can't find it anyway ?! :]
[10:06] <mrksbrd1> if your in backgrounds, u should see "get new wallpapers"
[10:06] <combo> mrksbrd1: yes i have it buuuut
[10:06] <combo> i've been using it all the time but those wallpapers are NOT downlading into my /root/.kde dir
[10:07] <mrksbrd1> hold on
[10:07] <combo> i don't know why... probably cuz such dir doesn;t exist? :s
[10:07] <combo> mrksbrd1: ok
[10:09] <mrksbrd1> should default to this directory.........../home/username/.kde/share/wallpapers/
[10:12] <combo> i give up... don;t how to do this... there is always /root/ dir ? :/
[10:12] <mrksbrd1> find it?
[10:12] <combo> can't find it
[10:12] <combo> *i mean can't figured it out
[10:12] <mrksbrd1> u shouldn't be in root directory @ all
[10:12] <mrksbrd1> is it defaulting to root when u sign in??
[10:12] <combo> no, no... when i'm clicking on WALLPAPER - install... it automaticlly install to the /root/.kde
[10:13] <combo> wait!?
[10:13] <combo> u gave me new idea
[10:13] <combo> ^^
[10:13] <combo> brb
[10:17] <combo> mrksbrd1: i check this out and it looks it's downloaded :D
[10:17] <combo> but when i'm choosing it there is violet screen
[10:17] <combo> no w-paper :/
[10:18] <mrksbrd> hmmmmm
[10:18] <mrksbrd> sounds like your getting a conflict w/something else installed
[10:18] <combo> where this paper is downloaded?
[10:18] <combo> know that?
[10:19] <mrksbrd> u running your correct driver for your video card?
[10:19] <combo> yeap - i'm going on AIGLX (ati radeon 9600)
[10:19] <combo> but all the rest (deafults) wallpapers work as well :]
[10:19] <combo> and all papers added by me manually
[10:19] <combo> also work
[10:20] <mrksbrd> hmmm...let me check something...brb
[10:21] <combo> craaaaaaaaaaaaap
[10:21] <combo> mrksbrd: done
[10:21] <combo> mrksbrd: i made it :) this wallpaper has been downloaded as a website so it is not a image
[10:23] <combo> mrksbrd: i'll add it manually :)
[10:23] <combo> the simple way - more stable :)
[10:23] <combo> hehe
[10:24] <mrksbrd> your not using enlighenment r u?
[10:24] <frenchy> hllo room
[10:26] <mrksbrd> combo:what base system are u working with???
[10:27] <combo> eee base = ?
[10:27] <combo> what u mean
[10:27] <combo> kubuntu 7.04
[10:27] <combo> ?! :]
[10:28] <mrksbrd> ok...i have ubuntu w/KDE desktop environment running over top of it, my menu's prolly look a bit different
[10:28] <maverick> banshe is better than amarok
[10:29] <mrksbrd> tried searching ubuntu forums but couldn't find anything for your prob.....only thing close was if u were running enlightenment
[10:29] <combo> ok, i'll make it somehow :)
[10:30] <combo> mrksbrd: btw. do u use compiz ? :]
[10:30] <mrksbrd> beryl
[10:30] <mrksbrd> pretty much the same thing though
[10:30] <combo> cuz there is written that i don't have metacafe... and can't install it ?
[10:30] <combo> mrksbrd: but not stable, right ?
[10:31] <mrksbrd> seems to be, one or the other just aquired the other
[10:31] <mrksbrd> haven't had any issues with it yet, seems to be more customizable
[10:31] <combo> crap... i downloaded GNOME compiz? is this good ? :D
[10:32] <mrksbrd> prolly won't run, kubuntu isn't a GNOME environment
[10:32] <combo> i mean will gnome compiz be working on KUBUNTU :D
[10:32] <combo> craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap
[10:32] <combo> so uninstall
[10:33] <combo> i'll try beryl
[10:33] <mrksbrd> just run sudo apt-get remove
[10:33] <mrksbrd> for beryl...just run a sudo apt-get install beryl
[10:33] <mrksbrd> and sudo apt-get install beryl-manager
[10:33] <combo> mrksbrd: do u use BERYL on kubuntu ?
[10:33] <combo> mrksbrd: ok, i'll try that
[10:34] <mrksbrd> use it on KDE, which kubuntu is based on
[10:34] <combo> hey! cuz i've been trying to install compiz via Synaptic GNOME package manager
[10:34] <combo> so maybe because of this it didn't wokr :D
[10:34] <mrksbrd> i don't like getting anything thru synaptic
[10:35] <combo> i've been this way installing drivers to ATI :D
[10:35] <combo> but it LOOKS it works :D
[10:35] <combo> mrksbrd: i have Direct Rendering : YES
[10:35] <combo> so hope it works as it is written :d
[10:35] <combo> hhe
[10:36] <combo> YEAH!! i have beryl and beryl-manager!
[10:36] <combo> mrksbrd: thanks a lot !! :D:D
[10:36] <mrksbrd> no prob
[10:36] <combo> but one more thing - how to turn it on ? :D
[10:36] <combo> for all the time
[10:37] <mrksbrd> only thing I haven't figured out how to make it run automatically on sys startup yet
[10:37] <mrksbrd> have to manually launch it when i sign in
[10:37] <combo> i see... :)
[10:37] <combo> ok
[10:37] <mrksbrd> should be under your system menu
[10:37] <combo> but - is emerald theme working if beryl and beryl-manager is turned off ?
[10:38] <mrksbrd> themes should still work
[10:38] <combo> ok then THX once again :)
[10:38] <mrksbrd> beryl is just for effects
[10:38] <combo> going for breakfast! :D
[10:38] <mrksbrd> k
[10:38] <combo> c ya
[10:39] <mrksbrd> l8tr
[10:40] <thill2708> is there an easy way to make an ad hoc network in kubuntu?
[10:40] <thill2708> firestarter isn't doing the trick for me
[10:40] <thill2708> !adhoc
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adhoc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:41] <mrksbrd> i seen it somewhere...give me a min to think
[10:43] <dromer> aarg, my pc just hang (again. this happens almost every day), what can I check to see what happens and to fix it?
[10:44] <mrksbrd> thill: can't remember where I saw it
[10:44] <mrksbrd> sorry
[10:44] <thill2708> mrksbrd: damn :(
[10:45] <hangthedj> does anybody know how to choose a specific network when it has the same name as a couple others in knetworkmanager?
[10:47] <mrksbrd> > thill: try here..........
[10:47] <mrksbrd> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[10:47] <mrksbrd> >
[10:47] <LoneShadow> anyone using elisa ?
[10:48] <mrksbrd> nope
[10:48] <LoneShadow> oh never mind, found #elisa :D
[10:48] <hangthedj> LoneShadow: i did for a second, but it crashed to much. so i went to mythtv
[10:50] <LoneShadow> hangthedj: dosnt even play any medias for me
[10:50] <hangthedj> LoneShadow, MythTV or elisa?
[10:50] <LoneShadow> elisa
[10:51] <LoneShadow> I dont think I have seen mythtv crash :D
[10:51] <hangthedj> i don't have a tuner card, i just use it for video organization.
[10:51] <hangthedj> elisa crashed every time i played a video then one after that.
[10:51] <LoneShadow> I have a tuner, I stopped using it once I got a hdtv
[10:51] <hangthedj> so every two videos it would crash.
[10:51] <LoneShadow> mainly use the mythtv for video files like you
[10:51] <LoneShadow> was trying to see if elisa would be better
[10:52] <hangthedj> in my opinion, i don't think it is.
[10:52] <hangthedj> i wish there was something out there that would just organize videos. like amarok, but for videos.
[10:53] <mrksbrd> thill:did u check that link, was it what u were looking for??
[10:54] <hangthedj> whats the best NES emulator for linux?
[10:55] <LoneShadow> hangthedj: yea I am looking for one as well, something like amarok for videos :D
[10:55] <ubuntu> hello world!
[10:56] <hangthedj> are you programming for the first time?
[10:56] <ubuntu> i just boot from kubuntu
[10:56] <ubuntu> is great
[10:56] <mrksbrd> can anyone point me in the right direction..........attempting to use my 40gb usb hard drive, it recognizes it, but when i select "open in new window" nothing happens...........any idears???????
[10:57] <ubuntu> do you see it in the desktop?
[10:57] <mrksbrd> nope
[10:57] <hangthedj> mrksbrd: you may have to manually mount it.
[10:57] <temuchin> have the same problem
[10:57] <mrksbrd> the weird thing is my thumb drive works perfectly
[10:57] <temuchin> check the settings
[10:58] <temuchin> is there anything written at all?
[10:58] <mrksbrd> hang:haven't learned tha command yet...still a bit green
[10:58] <temuchin> :) np
[10:59] <stephen> webcam is not recognized
[10:59] <mrksbrd> also why would my thumb drive work & not the HDD???
[10:59] <stephen> and my tv tuner... i can't use it
[10:59] <temuchin> anybody know what to fill in into mount point and mount options
[10:59] <combo> mrksbrd: r u still there ? :)
[10:59] <thill2708> anyone recognize this when they try to create an ad hoc network?
[10:59] <thill2708> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
[10:59] <thill2708>     SET failed on device ath0 ; Invalid argument.
[10:59] <combo> mrksbrd: cuz i have little problem
[10:59] <mrksbrd> yes combo
[10:59] <combo> Checking for XComposite extension               : failed
[10:59] <combo> No composite extension
[11:00] <combo> this warning i'm receiving
[11:00] <combo> that there is no composite extension
[11:00] <combo> what it means ?
[11:00] <combo> know meybe ?
[11:00] <mrksbrd> never seen that b4 combo..........what was the situation when it occ'd?????
[11:00] <hangthedj> combo: in a terminal try doing 'sudo apt-get install libxcomposite1'
[11:01] <combo> when i'm typing BERYL in console
[11:01] <combo> hangthedj: ok try it
[11:01] <hangthedj> although the proper place to be is #ubuntu-effects.
[11:01] <hangthedj> ;)
[11:01] <combo> crap in my kubuntu i have so many gnome libs :{{{{
[11:02] <combo> autoremove should helps
[11:02] <combo> why i've been trying to install that stupid compiz under GNOME!?
[11:02] <dromer> haha
[11:02] <mrksbrd> hang: would it matter that my drive was running under windows prior to switching to linux???
[11:02] <hangthedj> combo: only if you don't need them it will autoremove, otherwise it will hold onto it.
[11:03] <combo> yes - it has been auto-deleted cuz unneeded anymore
[11:03] <hangthedj> mrksbrd, it shouldn't, if it was formated under fat or ntfs it should show up as such under linux.
[11:03] <combo> hangthedj: i made that command but still same :/
[11:03] <combo> checking for XCompisoite extension: failed
[11:03] <hangthedj> did it install the libxcomposite1?
[11:03] <combo> no composite extension... are there any more extension
[11:03] <combo> ?
[11:03] <mrksbrd> i see the device in device manager........everything looks normal as far as the structure
[11:04] <helloyo> is there a way to stop WMV from distorting? i have xine-extracodecs installed
[11:04] <mrksbrd> even tryed mount auto........and still didn't work....
[11:04] <combo> hangthedj: there is written that libxcomposite1 is already installed
[11:04] <combo> ...in latest version
[11:04] <hangthedj> if you open konsole and type fdisk -l do any of them say ntfs fat32?
[11:05] <slougi> combo: but you still need to enable the composite extension
[11:05] <combo> nothing happened
[11:05] <combo> slougi: any idea how to solve it ? i'm noob ;P
[11:05] <mrksbrd> combo it should have installed everything when u did sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-manager......don't know why u are getting that msg
[11:05] <slougi> combo: sec
[11:05] <hangthedj> combo: i'm not sure, i don't know much about it. you could try #beryl or #ubuntu-effects.
[11:05] <combo> maybe i'll try again install those to beryl and b-mnager ?
[11:06] <slougi> combo: add this to the end of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:06] <slougi> Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable"
[11:06] <slougi> EndSection
[11:06] <slougi> whoops
[11:06] <slougi> came out wrong
[11:06] <combo> yeah! totally forgot!
[11:06] <mrksbrd> see if their website has any FAQ's on it combo
[11:06] <slougi> combo: Option "Composite" "Enable" should be on its own line
[11:07] <combo> now there is composite: "0"
[11:07] <combo> so probably that it didn't work
[11:07] <combo> chage for enabled ?
[11:07] <mrksbrd> ok stupid ? how do u highlight in red who u want to talk to in here?????????
[11:07] <combo> ENABLE?
[11:07] <combo> yeesm, sorry ;P
[11:07] <hangthedj> combo: after you have to restart the x server
[11:07] <slougi> combo: i don't follow
[11:08] <combo> ok, reset x-server
[11:09] <mrksbrd> slougi: are u any good w/getting usb HDD's to work??????????
[11:10] <hangthedj> mrksbrd: open the system settings, go to the advanced tab and click on disk & filesystems.
[11:10] <hangthedj> and if that doesn't work i'll tell you how to manually do it through konsole
[11:11] <mrksbrd> don't have that option....running KDE
[11:12] <hangthedj> mrksbrd: click on the kde menu, and choose system settings
[11:12] <hangthedj> i'm staring at the command on my laptop right now.
[11:13] <mrksbrd> I have 2 system sections and neither 1 have it
[11:14] <mrksbrd> only thing close is "disk usage"
[11:15] <hangthedj> mrksbrd: 1 sec
[11:16] <hangthedj> mrksbrd: whats the output of fdisk -l, which drive is the 40g?
[11:16] <hangthedj> in konsole
[11:17] <mrksbrd> pls forgive me....do i type fdisk -l in terminal
[11:17] <hangthedj> yes
[11:18] <mrksbrd> I can paste it using the paste link here right w/o floodling the channel correct??
[11:18] <hangthedj> just tell me the /dev/ of the 40gb one.
[11:18] <t4m1n0> I'm having some problems during the installation of feisty 7.04: Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0  I get this erroc constantly. I read on a lunhpad about this bug and some guys say that I have to disable floppy in bios if I don't have floppy in a machine. But what if  I don't have an option to disalbe floppy in a bios ??? please help
[11:18] <hangthedj> usually /dev/sdb1 or /dev/sdb2
[11:19] <hangthedj> or hdb
[11:19] <mrksbrd> says......./dev/sdb1   *           1        4864    39070048+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[11:19] <hangthedj> o
[11:19] <hangthedj> k
[11:21] <hangthedj> mrksbrd: ok, if you run these commands, you should be set http://paste.ubuntu.com/17
[11:22] <hangthedj> the ntfs-3g is so you can write to it.  but i would suggest backing it up, then reformatting under ext3 and copying the files back.
[11:22] <mrksbrd> ahhhhhhhh......30gb worth of digital pics
[11:23] <mrksbrd> guess i have to boot to winblows again
[11:23] <mrksbrd> ok i appreciate all your help with this........ hang
[11:23] <hangthedj> mrksbrd if you don't need to write to it.  you can leave out the -t ntfs-3g
[11:24] <combo> ok i'm going far. i changed AIGLX "on", Composite "Enable", and added Load "dbe" in MODULE section; now there is an error with beryl-manager-> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:24] <mrksbrd> i will need to, that is where i store all my digital photos
[11:24] <hangthedj> combo: add Load "dri" in the module section
[11:25] <mrksbrd> combo............u may have deeper issues w/your kubuntu install.....ran into all kinds of errors b4 and had to reinstall 3-4 times b4 it was right
[11:25] <combo> it's already added ?
[11:26] <hangthedj> hmm, is xfree86-dri installed?
[11:26] <combo> those three most important: DRI, GLX and DBE are already added
[11:26] <combo> there is written not
[11:26] <mrksbrd> since i started w/ubuntu & installed the KDE environment haven't had any issues
[11:26] <combo> that it is miising
[11:27] <combo> hangthedj: wanna see my xorg.conf maybe there some detail wrong ? :]
[11:27] <combo> crap
[11:27] <jaguilera> hi all
[11:28] <hangthedj> combo: sure paste it, i'll compare it to mine ;)
[11:28] <hangthedj> !paste
[11:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:28] <combo> typing 'beryl' shows: that XFree86-DRI missing and also -> glXBindTexImageEXT is missing
[11:28] <combo> hangthedj: ok
[11:28] <jaguilera> 7.04 supports installing on LVM? I guess it does, but does it support creating the volumes from the install?
[11:29] <mrksbrd> hang....could it be issues with his install of kubuntu as i sugested???
[11:30] <combo> hangthedj: where should i paste it?
[11:30] <combo> hangthedj: know some service?
[11:30] <hangthedj> !paste | combo
[11:30] <ubotu> combo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:30] <hangthedj> mrksbrd: i guess the big question is what video card does he have ;)
[11:31] <combo> - here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34765/
[11:31] <mrksbrd> radeon 9600 he said....which shouldn't have any troules
[11:32] <hangthedj> hmm ati radeon, i thought all ati was difficult.
[11:32] <combo> before i had no problem with beryl on ubuntu as i remember
[11:33] <mrksbrd> i'm only speaking by past expierence w/live installs of kubuntu, like i said ever since i used alt cd for ubuntu & installed KDE environment....no issues...(knock on wood)
[11:33] <kewlsolutions> iloveyou chinita
[11:33] <combo> look, maybe this problem is caused, cuz i installed ATI drivers with command "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager" ? :]
[11:34] <combo> but Direct Renderind: YES, so i'm not sure
[11:34] <ubuntu> hello. this user is spiroo but from school with LiveCD :D
[11:34] <hangthedj> hmm, try installing xserver-xorg-driver-radeon
[11:34] <mrksbrd> shouldn't matter combo....your just using proprietary software
[11:34] <combo> mrksbrd: ok
[11:34] <hangthedj> your xorg looks fine
[11:35] <ubuntu> When installing kubuntu I wondering why tha heck it si downloading a languagepackage. I wonder, does it do that from the internet
[11:36] <hangthedj> or xserver-xorg-video-ati instead of fglrx
[11:37] <combo> ok then - i'll do it this way
[11:37] <combo> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon
[11:37] <combo> no choice
[11:37] <combo> how do u think - will be working?
[11:37] <combo> ( on kubuntu ? )
[11:37] <mrksbrd> let me give u some links as well about ati........brb
[11:38] <hangthedj> i love my beryl on kubuntu.  compiz and compiz-fusion only give me trouble.
[11:38] <hangthedj> i have to admit though, mostly i use beryl for emerald.
[11:39] <hangthedj> ubuntu: i'm not sure actually, never thought about it.
[11:39] <hangthedj> been awhile since i installed kubuntu
[11:39] <mrksbrd> I run strickly beryl w/o any issues under ubuntu/KDE
[11:40] <hangthedj> mrksbrd: did you decide not to mount the usb and leave it to windows?
[11:40] <enoj_> I'm using the 'nvidia-settings' app from nvidia to configure my twinview setup. It works perfectly, except for the fact that the menus and application toolbar is on the right monitor instead of the left one. How can I fix this?
[11:41] <mrksbrd> going to do it when I go home so I can back up the files
[11:41] <hangthedj> enoj_ the only way i know how to do that is through the monitor config.
[11:42] <enoj_> hangthedj: the "Monitor" section of xorg.conf you mean ?
[11:42] <mrksbrd> i'm leaving work in 1 1/2hrs....will have more time @ home to do it
[11:42] <hangthedj> in the kde system settings.
[11:42] <mrksbrd> I will let u know if it works hang....thanks alot for all your help on it
[11:42] <hangthedj> i'll still be on here, when you try it, but asleep. ;)
[11:43] <mrksbrd> mee tooooo, prolly try it in the afternoon when I wake up
[11:43] <mrksbrd> lo
[11:43] <hangthedj> its almost 3 here.
[11:43] <mrksbrd> lol
[11:43] <mrksbrd> 5:43 here EST
[11:43] <hangthedj> you work graveyard or something?
[11:44] <mrksbrd> shift work
[11:44] <hangthedj> thats what time i get to work
[11:44] <mrksbrd> 2 12hr days....2 12 hr nights
[11:44] <hangthedj> but not tomorrow.
[11:44] <mrksbrd> lol....ya know
[11:45] <mrksbrd> this is the only thing that keeps me awake....learning this OS
[11:45] <mrksbrd> my eyes & brain are shot by the end of the night
[11:45] <hangthedj> between windows and linux, its the difference between driving an automatic and a manual.
[11:45] <enoj_> hangthedj: in the monitor and display section in kde system settings? I can't see where i should do that, cause it only displays a huge screen size (the two monitors combined)
[11:46] <mrksbrd> but ya know once u get used to the commands this is easier than winblows I think
[11:46] <mrksbrd> not to mention more cusatomiable
[11:46] <mrksbrd> customizable
[11:46] <hangthedj> enoj_: in the size, Orientation and Positoning, Administrator mode, it should have a second screen option.
[11:47] <hangthedj> mrksbrd: its the difference between steering and driving.
[11:47] <mrksbrd> i saved your instr as a text file...don't worry i won't loose it...(knocks on wood)
[11:47] <hangthedj> much more control over your computer, you have to know your computer
[11:48] <mrksbrd> I've been with windows for many years now, was turned onto this by someone in my IT dept...and never looked back since
[11:48] <hangthedj> mrksbrd: most of the time just using mount (device) (directory) works, it will autodetect the fs, but with ntfs if you want to write to it, you have to specify ntfs-3g and have it installed.
[11:48] <enoj_> hangthedj: http://enoj.com/snapshot1.png
[11:48] <hangthedj> i enjoy learning something new everyday... with windows its just point click, point click.
[11:49] <mrksbrd> i agree, nothing left to the imagination with windoweas
[11:49] <mrksbrd> windows
[11:49] <Carnage\> Any idea about the reason for KDE not showing my background picture anymore?
[11:49] <mrksbrd> lol.........see i'm fading fast!!!
[11:49] <Carnage\> I just get a blue background...
[11:50] <mrksbrd> my first task with this was getting my aircard to work
[11:50] <hangthedj> enoj_: what are you trying to do, with the monitors?
[11:50] <mrksbrd> read...read...read...and still nothing, then found a nice little app called KPPP and the rest was history
[11:51] <hangthedj> i don't read anything, i just poke at it until it gives up and works.
[11:51] <enoj_> hangthedj: I want the menus and toolbars to be on the left monitor instead of the right one. When I hit "Identify monitors", it says the one on the right is #1 and the one on the left is #2 .. i want it the other way around
[11:51] <mrksbrd> hand how do u do that "red" highlight when speaking to me???........dumb ? i know!!!
[11:52] <mrksbrd> hang...sorry...lol
[11:52] <hangthedj> ok, if you choose second screen, then do dual screen, you usually have quite a bit of options, sometimes not.
[11:52] <cy__> hello, i installed ubuntu feisty yesterday.. now i want the terminus bitmap font within konsole (kde terminal) .. but i get this error: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1864eb81  .. anyone know how to solve this?
[11:52] <hangthedj> mrksbrd: you can either type the username with a : after it or a comma.
[11:53] <hangthedj> i think a comma, i dunno i'm using BitchX on my server, and it works like the :
[11:53] <mrksbrd> I do but on my end it still looks black....do u see different??
[11:53] <mrksbrd> hangthedj, test
[11:53] <hangthedj> there is is.. your name is yellow now.
[11:53] <hangthedj> ;)
[11:54] <hangthedj> 2720x1024, i want that monitor. :D
[11:54] <mrksbrd> still blk on my end.....i'll take your word for it
[11:54] <hangthedj> what client are you using?
[11:54] <mrksbrd> holy crap....wide screen???
[11:54] <hangthedj> you can probably configure it.
[11:54] <mrksbrd> 22"
[11:55] <mrksbrd> >mrksbrd is tired of configuring tonight
[11:55] <mrksbrd> there we go
[11:55] <mrksbrd> have to remember my IRC commands now
[11:57] <mrksbrd> hangthedj, past this let me see what it looks like on your end
[11:57] <hangthedj> on my end?
[11:58] <mrksbrd> to show me the color u see
[11:58] <hangthedj> i've got no gui, hence no screenshot
[11:58] <mrksbrd> when i type specifically 2 u
[11:58] <mrksbrd> ah
[11:58] <mrksbrd> k
[11:58] <hangthedj> your name is yellow.
[11:58] <hangthedj> instead of grey
[11:59] <mrksbrd> mrksbrd: you can either type the username with a : after it or a comma.
[11:59] <hangthedj> you could install bitchx-gtk and see
[11:59] <mrksbrd> was that in red on your end?
[11:59] <hangthedj> nope
[11:59] <hangthedj> or even better bitchx
[11:59] <mrksbrd> ....sudo apt-get install bitchx-gtk????????
[12:00] <hangthedj> i get it, esteve, like homestarrunner, ehh steve
[12:00] <hangthedj> yes
[12:00] <mrksbrd> k
[12:01] <mrksbrd> hangthedj,have u ever used a aircard on here
[12:01] <hangthedj> no i haven't.
[12:01] <mrksbrd> so nice to have freedom!!!!
[12:02] <mrksbrd> gets dangerous when your driving though....lol
[12:02] <hangthedj> ehh steve
[12:02] <hangthedj> i know this is offtopic, sorry, but creature from the black lagoon is a great movie
[12:02] <mrksbrd> where u from hang??
[12:02] <hangthedj> cali
[12:03] <mrksbrd> nj here
[12:03] <hangthedj> do /whois hangthedj
[12:03] <mrksbrd> WHOIS Server load is temporarily too heavy. Please wait a while and try again.
[12:03] <mrksbrd> imagine that
[12:03] <hangthedj> thats because right when i said that, everyone did /whois hangthedj :D
[12:04] <mrksbrd> lol
[12:04] <hangthedj> j/k or maybe not, i think its irc human nature
[12:05] <hangthedj> chatzilla? i didn't think anybody did that
[12:05] <hangthedj> i mean used that
[12:06] <mrksbrd> college???
[12:06] <hangthedj> i don't go there, i'm not smart enough, i just work there.
[12:06] <hangthedj> ;)
[12:06] <mrksbrd> lol
[12:07] <mrksbrd> t3?
[12:07] <mrksbrd> or dsl
[12:07] <hangthedj> i'm at home right now, so its just 6 meg dsl, but at work, its a 10gig line in my office.  i download distros there to test later.
[12:08] <mrksbrd> don't blame ya!!!
[12:08] <mrksbrd> home i'm on fios...20mb/down
[12:08] <hangthedj> i had to get dreamweaver for mac, 500 megs, in like 2 minutes
[12:08] <hangthedj> from adobe.
[12:08] <hangthedj> its awesome
[12:08] <mrksbrd> u paid for it?????????
[12:08] <hangthedj> no
[12:09] <mrksbrd> oh ok
[12:09] <hangthedj> with mac you can just uninstall and reinstall
[12:09] <mrksbrd> ahhh!!
[12:09] <mrksbrd> how can i send u a prvt msg?
[12:09] <hangthedj> but, now i just use textwrangler
[12:09] <hangthedj> you do /msg i think
[12:10] <hangthedj> like /msg hangthedj
[12:10] <hayami> nice xD
[12:11] <hangthedj> xD?
[12:11] <mrksbrd> did it post to the room???
[12:11] <mrksbrd> hope not
[12:11] <adenicio> can i install blue solei on linux?if yes how?
[12:12] <mrksbrd> did ya get it?
[12:14] <mrksbrd> hangthedj, u still there???
[12:15] <hangthedj> yep
[12:15] <mrksbrd> did u get it
[12:15] <hangthedj> it just locked my firefox and konqueror up
[12:15] <hangthedj> what platform are you on right now?
[12:15] <mrksbrd> linux
[12:16] <hangthedj> somethings wrong with my laptop
[12:16] <mrksbrd> rutrow!!
[12:16] <mrksbrd> i know it should work under firefox, been on their website already
[12:17] <mrksbrd> what os u on?
[12:17] <hangthedj> linux, but its unstable cause i play around too much
[12:17] <hangthedj> :p
[12:17] <mrksbrd> lol
[12:17] <mrksbrd> try konquer
[12:18] <adenicio> runlevelten: do u know about bluesoleil?if yes can i install it?if yes how?
[12:19] <mrksbrd> anyway well worth the monthy fee.....they have EVERYTHING....microsoft/mac anyway
[12:19] <runlevelten> iirc bluesoleil is a drop-in bluetooth stack type deely for legacy os's
[12:20] <runlevelten> gimme a chance. Getting caffeinated.
[12:21] <adenicio> :-/ i g
[12:21] <mrksbrd> well i'm out....time to go home now......thanks again hang
[12:21] <hangthedj> np, checkout usenetflash.com my friend runs it.
[12:21] <adenicio> ot no time while u just reach im going to work :-(
[12:21] <hangthedj> i'm going to sleep too.
[12:21] <hangthedj> 'night everyone
[12:21] <mrksbrd> will do
[12:21] <mrksbrd> !!!!!!!
[12:23] <runlevelten> usenetflash.com? Another thin front end on usenet?
[12:25] <hangthedj> runlevelten: it is a service that will let you know when search items have been found.
[12:25] <hangthedj> i don't use usenet, but gotta plug it, cause its my friends thing.
[12:25] <hangthedj> its pretty nice though.
[12:43] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[12:44] <combo> is this possible to set that beryl-manager will be starting-up itself without opening it ?
[12:44] <combo> ** automaticly
[12:45] <MilhousePunkRock> My DVD burner is shown as /media/floppy0 and device /dev/fd0 in the "Harddrives & Filesystems" in System settings, yet the entry in the fstab is correct. Is that a bug or something?
[12:52] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: IIRC, it should be opened automatically in a new session if you don't close it before shutting down KDE
[12:52] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: Otherwise you could create an enty in KDE's autostart folder
[12:53] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: ok, thx... it works automaticly with new session :D
[12:53] <knowledge25> what is the best tv software for kubuntu,can somebody help me?
[12:55] <MilhousePunkRock> knowledge25: Depends on your needs and on which applications your TV chipset supports
[12:57] <knowledge25> i have the  hauppauge  tv card
[01:01] <MilhousePunkRock> knowledge25: There are many of them, the manufacturer is not the chipset
[01:01] <MilhousePunkRock> !mythtv | knowledge25
[01:01] <ubotu> knowledge25: MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[01:05] <cy__> hello, i installed ubuntu feisty yesterday.. now i want the terminus bitmap font within konsole (kde terminal) .. but i get this error: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1864eb81  .. anyone know how to solve this?
[01:11] <MilhousePunkRock> cy__: How did you install the font?
[01:11] <cy__> MilhousePunkRock, first.. using apt-get then over the konsole -> fonts -> install bitmap
[01:12] <MilhousePunkRock> cy__: Let me try it myself here, hang on
[01:12] <cy__> but it cant install them into fonts:/Personal/ and i dont see where that path would lead to
[01:12] <cy__> im no kde expert.. ;)
[01:13] <knowledge25> i need help with my sudo i keep getting & error message.The package lg3d-java3d needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[01:13] <MilhousePunkRock> cy__: Which package did you install? console-terminus? xfonts-terminus?
[01:14] <cy__> MilhousePunkRock, both.. since im desperate
[01:14] <cy__> and i re-started X ..
[01:16] <cy__> uh.. i just saw something.. when i start konsole within an aterm, i get following errors during the installation of the bitmap fonts: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1883a029
[01:18] <malqos> hi i have dell latitude d600 and i have problem with my wifi,  i  dont know why  but it  doesnt  work:( i have no idea why:(
[01:19] <cy__> malcolmb, do you get something using "iwconfig" ?
[01:20] <MilhousePunkRock> cy__: Ok, fonts:/ is a kio-slave (virtual filesystem)
[01:20] <cy__> ok
[01:20] <cy__> so is something not running?
[01:20] <MilhousePunkRock> cy__: Maybe you are missing the slave? Type fonts:/ in a Konqueror window
[01:20] <malqos> cy__:
[01:21] <malqos> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[01:21] <malqos> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:""  Nickname:"Broadcom 4306"
[01:21] <malqos>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid
[01:21] <malqos>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[01:21] <malqos>           Link Quality=0/100  Signal level=-256 dBm  Noise level=-256 dBm
[01:21] <malqos>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[01:21] <malqos>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[01:21] <malqos> irda0     no wireless extensions.
[01:21] <malqos> i have something like this
[01:21] <cy__> malcolmb, use the pastebin the next time.. but it looks fine
[01:21] <MilhousePunkRock> !paste | malqos
[01:21] <ubotu> malqos: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:22] <malqos> ok sorry for that
[01:23] <MilhousePunkRock> malqos: The card looks like it's ready, it's not connected though. Can you give a little detail about the network you are trying to connect to? (DHCP/static IPs, encryption, ESSID hidden, ...)
[01:23] <malqos> cy__:but  what i can do?
[01:23] <MilhousePunkRock> cy__: Does it bring up a Personal and a System folder?
[01:23] <malqos> i dont configure anything
[01:23] <cy__> malcolmb, use it ? ;)
[01:24] <cy__> MilhousePunkRock, yes.. when i apt-get konqueror it installed "kdebase-kio-plugins" maybe i was missing this one
[01:24] <MilhousePunkRock> cy__: Is any other kio-magic working? That's the most basic one... Like media:/ or audiocd:/ ?
[01:25] <ubuntu_> KDE is better for child than XFCE?
[01:25] <cy__> MilhousePunkRock, yeah, they work now
[01:26] <cy__> i was even able to install the fonts.. no more errors.. but still, it does not show up in the list of selecteable fonts.. even after restarting konsole
[01:26] <MilhousePunkRock> cy__: foobar:/ (note the colon slash) is always a kio-slave of KDE, those are pretty useful...
[01:26] <cy__> yeap, i'll remember that
[01:26] <cy__> :]
[01:27] <MilhousePunkRock> cy__: Is it in the personal folder?
[01:27] <cy__> MilhousePunkRock, nope
[01:27] <ubuntu_> can I download and use KDE 4.0 beta in Kubuntu 7.04??
[01:27] <ubuntu_> I'm noob :)
[01:27] <stdin> ubuntu_: read the topic
[01:27] <ubuntu_> okey
[01:28] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu_: Why would you want to use beta software then?
[01:28] <MilhousePunkRock> stdin: Hey!
[01:28] <stdin> hi MilhousePunkRock :)
[01:28] <MilhousePunkRock> stdin: Once I disabled the error correction in the system settings for audio cds, kaudiocreator reads fine
[01:29] <MilhousePunkRock> stdin: There is still something wrong with the slave though, when I want to eject the CD by clicking on the media:/ applet in kicker, it says "audiocd:/ not found"
[01:29] <Angelus> somebody knows how can i install a kernel from kernel.org on kubuntu?
[01:30] <malqos> cy__:i have no idea why but my computer doesnt see any networks
[01:30] <MilhousePunkRock> Angelus: You will have to configure and compile your own kernel using the sources. Probably not an easy task...
[01:30] <cy__> malcolmb, have you configured it to use eth1 ?
[01:31] <Angelus> i know how to compile and configure a kernel MilhousePunkRock
[01:31] <Angelus> but is there some  more tasks to do to be ran on kubuntu?
[01:31] <MilhousePunkRock> malqos: What are you using to "see networks"? I still need more input about the actual network
[01:31] <stdin> MilhousePunkRock: don't think I ever use that, I just press the button on the drive
[01:32] <MilhousePunkRock> Angelus: I'd say "make menuconfig" "make && make modules install" or whatever that was, copying the kernel to /boot and editing your menu.list accordingly
[01:33] <MilhousePunkRock> stdin: The tower is out of arm-length reach... ;) And I got used to it from the faulty eject button on my old drive.
[01:33] <Angelus> hmm
[01:33] <Angelus> what about the initrd image MilhousePunkRock?
[01:34] <malqos> i downoad some wifi radar
[01:34] <malqos> :)
[01:34] <aryr100> hello all
[01:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Angelus: Well, I have only built my own kernels on Gentoo, things were a little different there, I guess...
[01:34] <malqos> i have d-link routher
[01:35] <stdin> agg, compiz just killed my X :p
[01:35] <Angelus> yeah even i MilhousePunkRock lol
[01:35] <MilhousePunkRock> stdin: Ha! :P
[01:35] <aryr100> need this cmd for kde (alt+f2 gksudo nautilus) ?
[01:35] <stdin> aryr100: kdesu konqueror
[01:35] <MilhousePunkRock> aryr100: Alt-F2 will launch a command, yes, but instead of gksudo, use kdesu, and replace nautilus with konqueror
[01:36] <MilhousePunkRock> Just like stdin already said
[01:36] <mario3600> Shit. Where I can get flash plugin for konqueror?? :/
[01:36] <MilhousePunkRock> Angelus: The question is WHY would you want to build your own kernel? And have you googled for how-tos?
[01:36] <aryr100> lol keep the cmd's the same penguin
[01:36] <aryr100> thx
[01:36] <MilhousePunkRock> !language | mario3600
[01:36] <ubotu> mario3600: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:37] <mario3600> :) okey
[01:37] <mario3600> repeat
[01:37] <mario3600> Where I can get flash plugin for konqueror?
[01:38] <MilhousePunkRock> !flash
[01:38] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:38] <knowledge25> i need help with my sudo i keep getting & error message.The package lg3d-java3d needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[01:38] <mario3600> thx,ubotu ;)
[01:38] <jussi01> !bot | mario3600
[01:38] <ubotu> mario3600: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:39] <Angelus> MilhousePunkRock: to get the latest kernel
[01:39] <MilhousePunkRock> mario3600: What you want is probably "flashplugin-nonfree", ubotu is a bot, and repeating a question that quickly is impolite
[01:39] <mario3600> wow
[01:39] <MilhousePunkRock> Angelus: You could install the Gutsy kernel instead, that is 2.6.22
[01:40] <Angelus> how MilhousePunkRock ?
[01:41] <MilhousePunkRock> Angelus: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=511974
[01:41] <MilhousePunkRock> Angelus: If you need to find a more explicit howto, I could try to find it, I know there is one
[01:41] <combo> - how can i change KDM Mnager ?
[01:42] <malqos> cy__:are you there?
[01:44] <MilhousePunkRock> Angelus: I just read through the forum post, the manual method is pretty much what the other howto was...
[01:44] <cy__> malcolmb, i am
[01:44] <cy__> MilhousePunkRock, simply copied the fonts file into my ~/.fonts/ and it works ;)
[01:45] <Angelus> well
[01:45] <malqos> i really dont know what to do?what informations do you need?how i can get it?
[01:45] <Angelus> ill try to compile it manually then
[01:45] <Angelus> ;p
[01:45] <cy__> malcolmb, have you tried using knetworkmanager ?
[01:46] <MilhousePunkRock> malqos: You could also try wicd
[01:46] <malqos> ok i download it rigth now knetwork manager
[01:47] <MilhousePunkRock> cy__: Unlike knetworkmanager wicd can handle static IP adresses too
[01:47] <combo> does anybody using KONVERSATION client know how make server list showing as TABS on the bottom not as a list on the left ?? :]
[01:47] <cy__> MilhousePunkRock, ok.. i didnt yet know that.. i shall remember it :) just wanted to help
[01:48] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: Settings, Interface, Tabs, choose you location there...
[01:48] <malqos> no wireless network found
[01:48] <MilhousePunkRock> cy__: So little malqos tells us about his actual network, I doubt he is using static IPs though
[01:49] <MilhousePunkRock> malqos: Consider turning off hiding the ESSID for the time being
[01:49] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: crap i have not in english... can u tell me in settings which one (from top) is this INTERFACE? :D
[01:49] <d-_-b\> salve
[01:49] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: first, second from top or which one ? :D
[01:49] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: Interface should the very first one, and tabs is the last in that sub-list
[01:50] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: Use the icons for orientation, Interface is a screen with a brush above, and tabs, well, that's the "new tab icon"
[01:50] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: found that!
[01:50] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: thanks a lot ;)
[01:51] <malqos> milhouepunkrock: what shoul i do????
[01:52] <MilhousePunkRock> malqos: Are you sure there is a wireless network at all?
[01:52] <malqos> yes
[01:52] <malqos> im sure
[01:52] <combo> how to install KDM theme Manager so i can change login manager theme? i've downloaded some new stuff but can't install it :S
[01:52] <malqos> bum my computer doesnt see anything
[01:52] <MilhousePunkRock> malqos: I assume that is your own network, right?
[01:53] <roger> :)
[01:53] <malqos> yes
[01:53] <malqos> i dont do anything with it
[01:53] <roger> :)
[01:53] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: You need "kdmtheme"
[01:53] <malqos> just connect and everything was great when i had windows
[01:54] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: so i have to istall it via apt-get ? :)
[01:54] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: kdmtheme yes, it will reside in system settings, IIRC you can add themes from there..
[01:55] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: ok, thx once again! (i could figure out the name of that program :) )
[01:55] <MilhousePunkRock> malqos: What kind of encryption do you use?
[01:55] <knowledge25> can anybody help me with my sudo
[01:55] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: apt-cache search <whateveryouarelookingfor>
[01:56] <malqos> what?how i can check it?
[01:56] <MilhousePunkRock> malqos: Go you router's configuration panel
[01:56] <MilhousePunkRock> knowledge25: Do you use looking glass at all? Are the repos enabled? Maybe sun changed the repos?
[01:57] <boris_> how can i change pic of KMenu ?
[01:57] <malqos> ok im checkink
[01:57] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: i downloaded this KDMTHEME but can't find where ? :| how to launch it ?
[01:58] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: could be "kcmshell kdmtheme"
[01:58] <stdin> ^ needs to be ran as root
[01:58] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: but is there any other way that via Console ?
[01:58] <combo> some icon ? :}
[01:58] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: It should be in the system settings
[01:58] <combo> yes - u said that
[01:59] <combo> but it is NOT :|
[01:59] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: Maybe you need to restart KDE
[01:59] <combo> CRAP! "kdeinit: can't connect to the X Server"
[01:59] <combo> yes
[01:59] <stdin> combo: we can read lower case letters just fine thanks. it's not in system settings, it's in kcontrol
[01:59] <combo> maybe yes :D
[01:59] <combo> let's see
[01:59] <boris_> how can i change K Menu's pic
[02:01] <stdin> boris_: save the icon you want as /usr/share/icons/default.kde/32x32/apps/kmenu.png
[02:02] <boris_> stdin do u know where i could get icons ?
[02:02] <stdin> google?
[02:03] <stdin> boris_: maybe kde-look.org too
[02:03] <runlevelten> boris_: You know you can also get whole icon themes on kde-look.org
[02:03] <MilhousePunkRock> boris_: Icons as in "Crystal SVG" or "Oxygen"? http://kde-look.org
[02:03] <MilhousePunkRock> !hi | Hobbsee
[02:03] <ubotu> Hobbsee: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[02:03] <MilhousePunkRock> :)
[02:03] <sayers> MilhousePunkRock: =[
[02:04] <fkm> Is there a good KDE firewall? I use Firestarter atm which - I think - is a Gnome application :\
[02:04] <Hobbsee> hiya MilhousePunkRock
[02:04] <combo> oh no! what it might be?! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34789/ :|
[02:04] <stdin> fkm: guarddog is the kde version
[02:04] <MilhousePunkRock> fkm: Just edit the iptables rules to your needs ;)
[02:05] <stdin> combo: don't use sudo, use kdesu
[02:05] <combo> OF COOOOOURSE :]
[02:05] <stdin> combo: and ignore the BadDevice errors too
[02:06] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: You could comment everything that is referring to "wacom" in your xorg.conf to get rid of that
[02:08] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: and if comment WACOM in xorg.conf what then? this FAILED TO OPEN DEVICE will disappear?
[02:08] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: or what it caused?
[02:09] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: Yes, it's for wacom stylus input on tablet PCs, if you don't have one, you won't need that
[02:09] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: ok then! this alert was very annoying for all my time with KDE
[02:09] <roger> ;]
[02:10] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: I wonder you ever got to see that anyway... Should be hidden underneath KDM and is not fatal, AFAIK
[02:10] <combo> ey - btw. is there possible to have one icon that after clicking launch 2 programs? e.g. COMMAND: 'beryl & beryl-manager' ? :)
[02:10] <malqos> milhouepunkrock:  i have no idea what kind of encryption i use, i have routher di-524, but i found something on the box that it may be WEP
[02:11] <MilhousePunkRock> malqos: You will surely need the key then... Also, is you ESSID hidden?
[02:11] <combo> i mean is there such mark like '&' or something ?
[02:11] <malqos> but it also  support WPA
[02:11] <combo> that i'm writting 'first_command & second_command'
[02:11] <boris_> how do i install icon themes
[02:13] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: command1 && command2
[02:13] <combo> ok then! THX
[02:14] <MilhousePunkRock> boris_: System settings, appearance, icons, install new design
[02:18] <yeniklasor_> Do you know a different K menu?
[02:20] <nitesh> i am a complete newbie, want to know the step by step procedure of installing kde-kdm-themes and how to use them
[02:20] <pag> nitesh, " sudo apt-get install kdmtheme kde-kdm-themes "
[02:21] <pag> nitesh, after it's done use System Settings (or kcontrol) to change themes
[02:21] <pag> yeniklasor_, like kbfx?
[02:22] <nitesh> thanks pag
[02:22] <pag> np :)
[02:24] <yeniklasor_> pag : yes do you know any other
[02:25] <Lieke> hooi!
[02:26] <pag> yeniklasor_, the kmenu itself... then there's something like "tasty menu" (I can't remember the right name).. then there's one that imitates Gnome-like menus. But afaik those two aren't in the repos.
[02:26] <yeniklasor_> pag : ok thanks
[02:26] <Lieke> when i start kxdocker, it chrashes
[02:27] <yeniklasor_> I saw a menu on pardus linux, it was great
[02:27] <yeniklasor_> at least not like win. 95 menu :)
[02:27] <pag> Lieke, iirc you have to run composite manager to get kxdocer to work..
[02:27] <jon_> anyone using nvidia drivers? My OpenGL stuff is crashing X
[02:27] <Lieke> how do i do that?
[02:27] <Lieke> pag
[02:27] <pag> !composite
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about composite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <pag> :( ok.. lets try different approach..
[02:28] <pag> !beryl
[02:28] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:28] <Lieke> !composite
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about composite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <pag> Lieke, there are also lighter composite managers (though they have little effects) like kompmgr and xcompmgr
[02:29] <Lieke> do i have to install those?
[02:29] <workstohard> is there an app to show if a system is listing on a port before you connect , besides telneting to it on port %x
[02:29] <Lieke> with sudo apt or something?
[02:30] <pag> Lieke, they all can be installed from adept, but you'll need a working 3d acceleration
[02:30] <Lieke> my nv driver is loaded... does that mean i have acceleration?
[02:30] <workstohard> pag. what are you trying to do ?
[02:31] <pag> workstohard, basically: to get kxdocker to work (and iirc it requiers composite)
[02:31] <Lieke> glxinfo | grep direct says I have no direct acceleration
[02:32] <workstohard> yea sorry Dont know that one /ack
[02:32] <Lieke> so it means I have to change the xorg.conf file
[02:32] <pag> !nv | Lieke
[02:32] <ubotu> Lieke: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:34] <workstohard> i used sudo atp-get intall nvidia
[02:34] <workstohard> done..
[02:34] <workstohard> hah
[02:34] <workstohard> err nvidia-glx that is
[02:35] <Lieke> nvidia-glx
[02:35] <Lieke> okay, let's try
[02:36] <Lieke> and then.. do I still have to change xorg.conf for something? of run eselect opengl set nvidia or so?
[02:36] <knowledge25>  i need help with my sudo can somebody help me ?
[02:36] <workstohard> what are you trying to acoomplish
[02:36] <Lieke> oh, nevermind, eselect is not used in debian :p
[02:36] <Lieke> okay, nvidia-glx is installed...
[02:36] <workstohard> yea
[02:36] <workstohard> now
[02:36] <workstohard> logout  and or restart x
[02:36] <Lieke> that's it?
[02:36] <Lieke> okay, let's try
[02:36] <pag> workstohard, ehmm no enabling?
[02:37] <workstohard> I had to restart in kubuntu
[02:37] <workstohard> atdept takes care of it
[02:37] <workstohard> i restarted x and came up with nvidia splash
[02:37] <Lieke> okey!
[02:37] <nitesh> pag, I installed the KDM themes as well as KDM theme manager, but in sys. settings KDM theme manager tab requires root password. However, there is no "Administrator Mode" Button
[02:38] <pag> nitesh, alt+f2 -> kdesu kcontrol
[02:41] <workstohard> anyone good with deny.hosts
[02:41] <workstohard> I need to purge a log so i can rememe my work ip which it denited
[02:41] <workstohard> hah
[02:41] <workstohard> it work?
[02:41] <lieke> i restarted but did not get nvidia splash logo :(
[02:42] <workstohard> well easyiest wasy i check
[02:42] <stdin> lieke: you need to run nvidia-xconfig
[02:42] <lieke> okee
[02:42] <stdin> lieke: "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[02:42] <workstohard> was if the glscreen saves worked
[02:42] <workstohard> and you have an Nvidia card right?
[02:42] <pag> " sudo nvidia-glx-config enable " is nice to make things work (it can also mess up your X, which isn't that nice)
[02:42] <lieke> yes workstohard
[02:43] <lieke> okee, rebooting again ^
[02:43] <lieke> joepie :)
[02:44] <lieke> it worked ^^
[02:44] <lieke> i got the logo ^^
[02:44] <kaminix|shindeir> What's the difference between a .ott and .odt? If I'm going to use a file as a template, why is .ott better?
[02:45] <workstohard> anyone good with host.deny?
[02:46] <lieke> it's still chrashing!
[02:47] <lieke> 1:1.0.9631+<IP_ADDRESS>-16.29
[02:47] <pag> lieke, installed from the repos?
[02:47] <lieke> WARNING: Warning user kxdocker_conf.xml may be corrupt: loading last backup!
[02:47] <lieke> i think so ^^
[02:47] <workstohard> try from repros
[02:47] <workstohard> always better
[02:48] <lieke> and whats repros?
[02:48] <KeksNico> I need help
[02:48] <pag> lieke, I'm not quite sure, if kxdocker is the app, but I recall some app, which repo-version sucked big time... I had to compile it just to get it to launch
[02:48] <pag> !ask | KeksNico
[02:48] <ubotu> KeksNico: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:50] <KeksNico> There is a process: hald-addon-stor, user halddaemo, the process use 99%cpu @start, i searched allredy in the communityboard, but did not help...
[02:50] <lieke> pag: first time it loaded for 30 seconds then chrashed because nvidia wasnt installed yet. second time i tried i got this warning and it chrashed again
[02:50] <KeksNico> Its strange, cause this problem wasnt there everytime
[02:50] <KeksNico> after a Reinstall,
[02:50] <lieke> i try to reinstall but it doesnt work :'(
[02:51] <KeksNico> reinstall doesnt work too @my problem, although the LiveCD got this problem now :X
[02:51] <pag> lieke, try to launch composite manager ( xcompmgr  should be enough for this purpose) and try to relaunch the kxdocker
[02:54] <lieke> xserver chrashes when running xcompmgr
[02:54] <yeniklasorr> How to install kbfx ?
[02:55] <yeniklasorr> !kbfx
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbfx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <pag> !info kbfx
[02:55] <ubotu> kbfx: an alternative to K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>~rc4-1 (feisty), package size 1268 kB, installed size 3748 kB
[02:55] <fkm> Oops. Was away and when I came back my system had frozen
[02:55] <yeniklasorr> pag : I installed it nothing changed
[02:56] <fkm> Well. Other question now anyways ;)
[02:56] <pag> yeniklasorr, add it to panel
[02:56] <lieke> pag, the server chrashes while xcompmgr is running
[02:56] <pag> yeniklasorr, right click on panel -> add applett -> kbfx
[02:56] <yeniklasorr> ok
[02:57] <pag> lieke, hmm... strange... you have aixgl?
[02:57] <pag> !aixgl
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aixgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <lieke> dunno :s
[02:57] <pag> :( bot doesn't understand me today
[02:58] <lieke> no i dont, pag
[02:58] <pag> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX
[02:58] <stdin> pag: aixgl? :p
[02:58] <pag> now I know why ubotu didn't get me - I mistyped (again)
[02:58] <pag> lieke, that link is for you :)
[03:01] <[10litrov] > why konqueror doesn't load any webpage on my dialup connection (any other prog work)?
[03:02] <boris_> where do i put icon i want to have instead of kmenu ?
[03:02] <pag> [10litrov] , my guess is knetworkmanager... try diabling it, and see if konq. starts to work
[03:02] <runlevelten> boris_: you've been told that before... scroll up
[03:03] <boris_> yeah but i completely closed conversation
[03:03] <boris_> konversation
[03:04] <yeniklasorr> pag : Kickoff menu http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/d/d3/Suse10_2-final-kickoff.jpg
[03:05] <[10litrov] > pag, thank you! networkmanager is disabled and konqueror is working.
[03:05] <pag> yeniklasorr, http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Kickoff-qt+on++Kubuntu+7.04?content=55864 (remember to read cautions)
[03:06] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[03:06] <runlevelten> boris_: the file will be called kmenu.png and be in your icon theme folder
[03:07] <runlevelten> that is /usr/share/icons/<yourchosentheme>/32x32/apps/kmenu.png or ~/.kde/share/icons/<yourchosentheme>/32x32/apps/kmenu.png
[03:07] <runlevelten> it may need replacing at different sizes than 32x32, too :)
[03:08] <lieke> pag, it still chrashes!
[03:08] <lieke>  but xcompmgr works
[03:08] <pag> lieke, "it" = kxdocker?
[03:08] <yeniklasorr> pag : How to do this sysinfo do you know http://www.kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/55864-1.jpg
[03:08] <lieke> yep!
[03:09] <pag> lieke, probably kxdocker *is* the app, which repo-verison didn't work... try compiling it (if you really need it; personally I see no real use for that app)
[03:09] <lieke> I think the xdocker_conf.xml file is burnt from last crash
[03:10] <Pali> how can i run skype plugin in kopete? i download kdeextragear, compile and show error:DBus found, but is too new.It is not supported by Skype neather by the skype plugin for KopeteThe plugin won't compile.   What i have do?
[03:10] <pag> yeniklasorr, sorry, I'm too lazy to find the link myself, but there are sysinfo packages for Kubuntu on kde-look.org - try to search for sysinfo and it should find them
[03:12] <boris_> how do i restart kicker
[03:13] <pag> boris_, " dcop kicker default restart "
[03:14] <boris_> i hate kde
[03:14] <lieke> pag: thanks for the help so far, i guess I'm almost up and running.. But I'm afraid the configuration file is corrupt
[03:15] <combo> does anybody know some name of splah-screen manager ? :)
[03:15] <combo> *splash-screen of cuz :)
[03:15] <pag> lieke, it's possible..
[03:16] <Pali> how can i using skype with kopete?
[03:16] <yeniklasorr> My kwin crashed a few minutes ago. And I couldn't get work anyting. Isn't there any way to fix this issue?
[03:16] <ivan_> hi all's
[03:16] <slougi> Pali: you can't
[03:16] <pag> combo, kcmshell ksplashthememgr  maybe? what do you mean?
[03:16] <Pali> slougi  kopete has plugin skype
[03:17] <Pali> slougi: but i cant compeled it
[03:17] <combo> pag: exactly this i've been looking for :D
[03:17] <combo> pag: thx a lot :)
[03:17] <pag> np :)
[03:17] <ivan_> :)
[03:18] <pag> hello ivan_ :)
[03:18] <ivan_> hi pag
[03:18] <ivan_> do you speak french?
[03:18] <pag> !fr | ivan_
[03:18] <ubotu> ivan_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:19] <lieke> pag: where could I find that information? Tried googling but cannot find.. and reinstalling doesn't fix the issue neither
[03:20] <pag> lieke, if the packege contains a broken config-file, then you'll have to download sources from their webpage and replace non-working config  with working ones (from the sources)
[03:24] <nitesh> the KDM login page does not fit screen... used different themes but the same result
[03:30] <icecruncher> hi, how can I change the time limit for sudo
[03:30] <icecruncher> ?
[03:31] <pag> icecruncher, sudo visudo  ?
[03:31] <icecruncher> nope
[03:32] <nitesh> the KDM login page does not fit my screen... used different themes but the same result
[03:36] <mendozin> holass
[03:38] <Mclovin_School> good morning everyone
[03:39] <pag> Mclovin_School, hello
[03:41] <Mclovin_School> :D
[03:48] <yeniklasorr> Do you know a app for to be a dj on a shoutcast server (with playback support) ?
[03:48] <Ben_Cs> is ubuntu.irc is same server as freenode?
[03:52] <genii> Ben_Cs: Yes
[03:52] <Ben_Cs> cool
[03:52] <lieke> anyone knows where the config files of kxdocker are installed?
[03:55] <Ben_Cs> had horrible bugs when installed kubuntu-desktop over ubuntu. just finished installing a clean kubuntu. very nice
[03:56] <lieke> hehe
[03:56] <lieke> u tried installing kxdocker yet?
[03:56] <Ben_Cs> i have now learned the hard way not to install one version of ubuntu on another.
[03:56] <Ben_Cs> nope
[03:57] <Ben_Cs> lieke: i like the original dock
[03:57] <lieke> yeh
[03:58] <lieke> wanted to try kxdocker but it fails to install
[03:58] <lieke> oh well..
[03:58] <lieke> mayb later
[03:58] <lieke> gtg now
[03:58] <lieke> cya'll
[03:58] <Ben_Cs> c ya
[04:00] <Ben_Cs> what u ppl prefer: firefox or konquer?
[04:00] <genii> I like firefox but it's all personal preferences.
[04:01] <andrea> list
[04:02] <Ben_Cs> i forgot. where do i change kde keyboard shortcuts?
[04:03] <SlimeyPete> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse
[04:03] <SlimeyPete> (iirc)
[04:03] <Ben_Cs> thanks
[04:04] <Ben_Cs> does gmail notifier work ok on kde?
[04:04] <icecruncher> yes
[04:04] <Ben_Cs> cool
[04:04] <icecruncher> but I'd use kcheckgmail
[04:05] <Ben_Cs> no synaptic in kde? how to search packages then?
[04:06] <genii> adept
[04:06] <icecruncher> Ben_Cs: get synaptic or use adept, or use cli
[04:06] <Ben_Cs> ok
[04:06] <genii> Ben_Cs: I like CLI, eg: apt-cache search <somenamehere>
[04:07] <Ben_Cs> genii: i prefer doing it by gui
[04:07] <icecruncher> in your case apt-get install synaptic
[04:07] <Ben_Cs> adept then i guess
[04:08] <Ben_Cs> icecruncher: doesn't adept as powerfull as synaptic?
[04:08] <icecruncher> pretty much same, synaptic has been around longer
[04:08] <icecruncher> i like it more
[04:08] <icecruncher> but its a matter of preference
[04:08] <genii> Ben_Cs: Again it's all personal preferences. adept is what comes with kde so no installing anything is needed. But if you like synaptic you can install that to use
[04:08] <SlimeyPete> synaptic's a bit more stable IME
[04:09] <genii> SlimeyPete: That seems to be the general consensus
[04:09] <Tomi-idle>  adept is preferrable on kde
[04:09] <Ben_Cs> adept manager is to manage installed packs, and add/remove progs, is to install them?
[04:10] <icecruncher> if I may correct, adept commes with kubuntu, other some kde systems have synaptic as default like pclos
[04:13] <Ben_Cs> i don't get it. i have adept-installer, and adept-manager. they both do the same?
[04:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[04:15] <icecruncher> Ben_Cs: adept installer lets you install packages and remove them, manager is more komplex lets you install to more detail, more selection, and remove stuff/purge
[04:15] <Ben_Cs> ok
[04:15] <Ben_Cs> but they both see the same packages available?
[04:15] <MilhousePunkRock> I recently converted my desktop from Gentoo (also with KDE 3.5.7) to Kubuntu Feisty and now I am having problems with audiocd:/ and KAudioCreator
[04:16] <Angelus> hmm when i run noname script on mirc from, some text doesnt come up good and somedialogs doesnt work fine, is there something i must install for wine?
[04:16] <icecruncher> Ben_Cs: manager has moer details, more packages
[04:16] <icecruncher> Ben_Cs: installer has basic, nice rounded ones
[04:17] <Ben_Cs> ok thanks
[04:17] <Ben_Cs> brb
[04:17] <MilhousePunkRock> When the error correction in the KControl Module for Audio CD is enable, KAudioCreator does not read anything. When it's disables, it reads (faster than it should) and there are lots of artifacts in the tracks...
[04:17] <icecruncher> ur welcome
[04:20] <MilhousePunkRock> !info cdparanoia
[04:20] <ubotu> cdparanoia: audio extraction tool for sampling CDs. In component main, is optional. Version 3.10+debian~pre0-4build1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 116 kB
[04:22] <MilhousePunkRock> Hmm, according to the CD Paranoia homepage, this is a testing version. How would I possibly downgrade? Add the edgy repo to my sources.lst?
[04:22] <doug_> how do i ch1 unpacked cup of chicken, small bowl of lettuce, 2 tablespoons of caesar dressing, 1/4 cup of cheese, 2 corn tortillas, 1/4 cup of salsacursor when i launch a program?ange the settings so that the program icon doesn't bounce by the
[04:23] <doug_> woops sorry
[04:23] <doug_> how do i make it so that when i launch a program it's icon doesn't bounce by my mouse pointer?
[04:24] <MilhousePunkRock> doug_: KControl, program start indicator (or something) in appearance
[04:24] <doug_> so run kcontrol in terminal?
[04:25] <mnt> Does anyone know where I can find the manual to the way (k)ubuntu configures pure-ftpd? I can't find the manual either on pure-ftpd's homepage, kubuntu.org or in the manuals on my system.
[04:25] <MilhousePunkRock> doug_: You cold, Alt-F2 or katapult will also work
[04:25] <dwidmann_> doug, pull up kcontrol (not system settings), in the filter box search for launch feedback
[04:25] <doug_> milhousepunkrock: thanks
[04:26] <doug_> dwidmann_: thanks
[04:28] <Ben_Cs> damn! konquer shows gmail page all messed up!!!!!!!
[04:33] <Ben_Cs> does kde handle gnome apps ok?
[04:33] <doug_> for wireless networks, what's the difference between managed, repeater, master, and secondary?
[04:33] <dwidmann_> Ben_Cs: should, then again the only gtk apps I use are gimp and dvd::rip ...
[04:34] <dwidmann_> (if nothing else those work okay)
[04:34] <SlimeyPete> Ben_Cs: yes, handles them just fine
[04:36] <Ben_Cs> ok
[04:43] <sparrw> how can i specify a parameter for a module that is loaded at boot time (automagically, discover?)
[04:45] <stdin> sparrw: put them in /etc/modprobe.d/options
[04:46] <Ben_Cs> is there a way to make the desktop show commonly used icons, like: browser, my comp, network etc.   ?
[04:46] <sparrw> thanks stdin
[04:47] <gimmy> ciao
[04:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Ben_Cs: Yes, just drag them there
[04:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Ben_Cs: Of course you will need to have desktop icons enabled in the desktop settings
[04:50] <Ben_Cs> MilhousePunkRock: ok. thought you have some boxes to check, like in gnome.
[04:53] <trekdann1> is there some way to get a console background (fbdev) without custom kernel patches like gensplash?
[04:54] <edtronic> hello i need help
[04:54] <edtronic>  am using ubuntu
[04:55] <edtronic> thers and aplication that is inegreted in the kde version of debian
[04:55] <edtronic> is like a terminal
[04:55] <edtronic> integrated in the folder
[04:56] <trekdann1> hmm can you rephrase that?
[04:56] <edtronic> ok ok
[04:56] <MilhousePunkRock> trekdann1: He wants a terminal in a konqueror window
[04:56] <edtronic>  theres a an aplication in debian the aplication is like a terminal integrated in the folders
[04:56] <edtronic> right
[04:57] <edtronic> can i get it on nautillus
[04:57] <trekdann1> hmm can't help you with GNOME stuff unfortunately, maybe ask in #ubuntu?
[04:58] <edtronic> yes
[04:58] <edtronic> thanks
[04:59] <edtronic> if i switch from gnome to kde in ubuntu can i get the konqueror terminal
[04:59] <edtronic> ?:
[04:59] <trekdann1> yes
[05:00] <trekdann1> just install kubuntu-desktop
[05:00] <MilhousePunkRock> trekdann1: I did not find that option though... ;)
[05:01] <edtronic> ho!
[05:05] <trekdann1> MilhousePunkRock: it's called "Terminal Emulator" and isn't in the menus per default
[05:05] <MilhousePunkRock> trekdann1: Ah, Kubuntu's crippled view profiles, huh?
[05:05] <trekdann1> yes
[05:07] <esra_> hey
[05:07] <esra_> wat's up
[05:07] <trekdann1> nothing really
[05:07] <esra_> i'm esin
[05:07] <esra_> from turkey
[05:07] <MilhousePunkRock> the ceiling
[05:07] <trekdann1> -_-
[05:07] <MilhousePunkRock> !hi | esra_
[05:07] <ubotu> esra_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:08] <esra_> thx
[05:08] <trekdann1> dunno if "Terminal Emulator" is a fitting name tho.. should be "Integreted terminal" or something like that
[05:09] <esra_> hey
[05:09] <esra_> r u there?
[05:09] <esra_> ubotu
[05:09] <MilhousePunkRock> !bot | esra_
[05:09] <ubotu> esra_: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:10] <trekdann1> !lol
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <MilhousePunkRock> trekdann1: Someone needs to add that... ;)
[05:11] <trekdann1> esra_: don't worry. it's happening all the time
[05:11] <trekdann1> MilhousePunkRock: hmm maybe there's a good reason for it i don't know about
[05:11] <MilhousePunkRock> bot abuse maybe.. :D
[05:12] <doug_> my alps touchpad on my laptop has 7 total events dedicated to it, and event 3, which is tapping the bottom right corner of the pad, acts as a right click.  how do i disable that?
[05:13] <MilhousePunkRock> doug_: How did you initially set up the events?
[05:14] <doug_> milhousepunkrock:  i don't know, however the synaptic driver did.  I've changed my xorg.conf to change my vertical scrolling and horizontal scrolling options, but i don't know what the option is for right button click emulation
[05:15] <MilhousePunkRock> doug_: You probably are on the right path, but I don't know anything about it... My laptop has a trackpoint
[05:15] <doug_> milhousepunkrock: thanks
[05:17] <HumpBack> Hello all
[05:17] <HumpBack> how do i turn a kubuntu feisty into a server only release (no X)?
[05:17] <underdog5004> HumpBack, remove X
[05:17] <underdog5004> sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg, I think
[05:17] <MilhousePunkRock> install a command line system from the alternate cd
[05:18] <underdog5004> then remove all the gui apps as well
[05:18] <SlimeyPete> HumpBack: remove x-windows-system
[05:18] <underdog5004> or just boot into runlevel 2
[05:18] <SlimeyPete> erm, x-window-system
[05:18] <HumpBack> underdog5004: there is no /etc/inittab
[05:19] <underdog5004> HumpBack, oh, ok
[05:19] <Feli> Hola
[05:20] <underdog5004> !es | Feli
[05:20] <ubotu> Feli: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:20] <Dr_willis> or just dont run the X stuff at boot.
[05:20] <Feli> S
[05:20] <Dr_willis> inittab is not used by ubuntu any more for that
[05:21] <Dr_willis> remove the gdm/kdm service
[05:22] <Feli> Por el momento no, gracias
[05:23] <elite101> hey i have a Audio CD and  i wanted to burn some files to the CD but K3B thinks i always wanna start a new session
[05:23] <elite101> but i just wanna add more files? how do i do this
[05:23] <Dr_willis> if the cd/sessions was closed. You dont. I think
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Unless its a cd-rw
[05:23] <Feli> Stefan
[05:24] <elite101> yeah its a CD-R
[05:24] <elite101> but i can do that in windows? i can just add more files to the cd.. why cant i with k3b?
[05:24] <elite101> is there a nero linux?
[05:25] <dwidmann_> Yes
[05:25] <dwidmann_> But if you can't get it to work with k3b it might be a more serious problem, maybe nero won't work either, then again you won't know until you try eh?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> Id like to see it done under windows..
[05:26] <Dr_willis> If its a closed session  - as far as i know.. its DONE.. :0 unless theres some trick some tools are using.
[05:26] <dwidmann_> Wait a minute, add more files to the cd? You have to select "multisession cd" in one of the tabs when you do the initial burn or it won't let you  ...
[05:26] <elite101> u can add files to a cd in windows its not hard u drag and drop and burn? who is that hard?
[05:26] <elite101> okay
[05:26] <Dr_willis> drag/drop in windows uses the UDF 'filesystem' - as if the cd was a big floppy.
[05:27] <Dr_willis> thats the 'trick' i guess. :)
[05:27] <Dr_willis> i never burn cd's that way in windows.
[05:27] <elite101> hey
[05:27] <elite101> it says insert media i have a Audio cd in it wont let me select it, even thou its mounted
[05:28] <Dr_willis> You normally dont need to mounmt an audio cd.
[05:28] <elite101> it wont let me burn a cd from befor only if i start a new one?
[05:28] <elite101> i was just saying that it was there
[05:28] <Dr_willis> ive never seen a way to add a new song to the end of an audio cd.
[05:28] <elite101> i dont wanna start a new one cuz i wanna save the cd i have now for F7
[05:28] <runlevelten> Burned audio CD-R != writable media.
[05:29] <Dr_willis> rip the cd back to mp3's then reburn it.
[05:29] <runlevelten> You have finished with the burning of the CD. It is done.
[05:29] <elite101> urgg i can do this in windows but the funny thing is my windows inst working with my PCI card so i need burn the drivers to cd intorder for me to go online
[05:29] <Dr_willis> an audio cd is not using the UDF system.  for one.. and its a cd-r, not a rw for 2nd..
[05:29] <elite101> no
[05:29] <elite101> i add files to cd's all the time in windows
[05:29] <Dr_willis> USING the UDF filesyste,
[05:29] <elite101> just it wont work in k3b
[05:30] <Dr_willis> are you refering to files, or audio songs? or mp3 files?
[05:30] <elite101> files
[05:30] <elite101> .exe's
[05:30] <Dr_willis> i think we are getting differnet things confused
[05:30] <Dr_willis> elite101,  thats NOT the same as an audio cd.
[05:30] <elite101> no really?
[05:30] <Dr_willis> you can use the udf stuff and use a cd as a big floppy disk.
[05:30] <runlevelten> No
[05:30] <Dr_willis> thats what windows drag/drop burning does.
[05:30] <runlevelten> You can't do that with a real audio CD.
[05:30] <elite101> I HAVE AUDIO CD AND I wanna burn files to it that arent AUDIO*******
[05:30] <elite101> no its a burned one
[05:30] <sehe> Dr_willis: if you're gonna rip CD's back for re-burning *don't* reencode mp3 or you'll be compounding mpeg distortion
[05:31] <Dr_willis> elite101,  doing that is not possible either i belive.
[05:31] <elite101> no its not
[05:31] <Dr_willis> audio cd's are a different filesystem then iso9660
[05:31] <elite101> its just everything i select needs a new cd untouched
[05:31] <sehe> elite101: yes it is possible, but you'll have to do some FAQ reading
[05:31] <elite101> omg i dont need ISO
[05:31] <elite101> xD thanks sehe,
[05:31] <sehe> elite101: Audio CD's always only consider the first session. (which needs to be TAO)
[05:31] <Dr_willis> you do relaize that windows can read/write ext2/3 filesystems?
[05:31] <runlevelten> elite101: You need to understand what you're trying to do.
[05:31] <elite101> yeah i dont know?
[05:32] <sehe> elite101: Adding a 'data session' can be done in the regular multi-session fashion. Only CDROM-drives will see those (or DVD players perhaps)
[05:32] <elite101> i dont know what im doing
[05:32] <sehe> elite101: lemme find a link for ya
[05:32] <elite101> mhm let me see
[05:32] <elite101> "NEW********DATA CD********
[05:32] <elite101> NEW* my cd= NOT NEW
[05:33] <sehe> elite101: http://howto-pages.org/cdwriting/08.php
[05:33] <elite101> i cant do anything in k3b because it needs a new cd not a already burned one xD
[05:33] <elite101> i will try that
[05:33] <sehe> elite101: you cannot add anything unless it is a multisession TAO disk that is unfinished
[05:33] <sehe> elite101: see the quote "cdrecord can do CD-XA very easily, although we'll be concentrating on pure data CD-ROM's for the minute. Audio, and therefore CD-XA and mode 2 CD-Extra, will be covered later on."
[05:33] <sehe> elite101: CD-XA is the thing you want to do
[05:33] <runlevelten> Quite. That's called coastering, and it's what happens if you decide what you want after pressing burn :(
[05:34] <elite101> the disk im using is unfinished so i can add files later and now everytime i go todo something it needs a new CD a newww one
[05:34] <sehe> elite101: not sure if CD-XA is reliable >2 sessions
[05:35] <sehe> elite101: Remember, you can only add *data* sessions. The audio needs to be in session 1
[05:35] <sehe> (session 0)
[05:35] <runlevelten> Funnily enough, I was just talking about the dustiness of cdrecord et al this am.
[05:35] <elite101> nvm i will just burn it on windows anyways
[05:35] <elite101> its to much of a hassle
[05:35] <sehe> boots elite101
[05:35] <sehe> heheheh
[05:36] <elite101> well it kinda makes sense? i would the files are for windows anyways
[05:36] <sehe> elite101: just kidding
[05:36] <sehe> elite101: some of the best ppl i know use windows
[05:36] <elite101> i mounted my HDD its a fat32 partition so i can make it accesiable to windows but it wont let me rite to it?
[05:36] <elite101> lol obv u need windows too
[05:36] <elite101> u need both
[05:37] <sehe> elite101: why?
[05:37] <elite101> mhm Shockwave?
[05:37] <elite101> WPE
[05:37] <elite101> ;)
[05:37] <sehe> sehe: i must admit it has taken me some while, but i'm now happily using linux in the workplace, which is Ordina Microsoft Enterprise Solutions (sic)
[05:38] <runlevelten> I don't need windows for anything.
[05:38] <runlevelten> You can use shockwave in Linux
[05:38] <elite101> i do for alot of programs
[05:38] <elite101> wpe-pro/xlink/xbc
[05:38] <elite101> lol
[05:38] <sehe> sehe: The trick i use, is not to tell anyone. Just yields a number of surprised looks once they find out, but they can't argue, because i've been doing my job as ever :D
[05:39] <elite101> wow? sehe? is there 2ppl?
[05:39] <elite101> o_0
[05:39] <sehe> elite101: as in colleagues or as in, man, you type too much?
[05:39] <runlevelten> Mind you, 'll be installing a windows vm for adobe CS etc soon, so I can't talk :)
[05:39] <sehe> ow i c
[05:39] <sehe> sehe [05:39] <elite101> sehe, is there 2 of u?
[05:39] <elite101> 0.0
[05:39] <sehe> good spot
[05:39] <elite101> is there?
[05:40] <sehe> nah
[05:40] <sehe> elite101: the world couldn handle us
[05:40] <dim_> howdy all, I have just downloaded the video which shows samba installation via Suse
[05:40] <dim_> and the video is using Yast stuff
[05:40] <sehe> elite101:  what btw is wpe-pro?
[05:40] <elite101> winstock editior
[05:40] <elite101> ;)
[05:40] <dim_> what is the equivalent of Yast in Kubuntu?
[05:40] <sehe> dim_: mmmm use a different video:_
[05:40] <elite101> packet injector/
[05:40] <runlevelten> dim_: There isn't really one.
[05:41] <sehe> !apt | dim_
[05:41] <ubotu> dim_: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:41] <runlevelten> There's an experimental attempt at a yast port.
[05:41] <stdin> dim_: system settings and adept
[05:41] <sehe> !adept | dim_
[05:41] <ubotu> dim_: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[05:41] <elite101> lol not the same "packet" thing
[05:41] <sehe> elite101: just close your eyes for 6 secodns
[05:41] <dim_> oh, i see, so Yast is just the package manager in Suse?
[05:41] <elite101> o_0?
[05:41] <runlevelten> No.
[05:41] <sehe> dim_: not just, it's the installer as well
[05:42] <runlevelten> YaST is the configuration manager in large part.
[05:42] <sehe> dim_: but, a package manager is what you are looking for
[05:42] <dim_> so via Yast, he is enabling swat
[05:42] <sehe> dim_: doesn't sound familiar to me
[05:42] <ScarFreewill> when I try to comple an app that depens on gtk2+ it tells me the following http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34808/ I've got libgtk2 installed what should I install?
[05:42] <runlevelten> dim_: were you looking for samba configuration through yast?
[05:42] <dim_> how do I enable swat in kubuntu?
[05:42] <sehe> !swat
[05:42] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:42] <runlevelten> the suse equivalent of apt is apt4rpm or zypper.
[05:42] <dim_> runlevelten: yes
[05:43] <Dr_willis> theres alternatives to swat. that work better in many cases
[05:43] <Dr_willis> theres a kde samba config toool that i perfer.
[05:43] <Dr_willis> i just forget what package it came in. :)
[05:43] <dim_> Dr_willis: which one is it? how do I enable it?
[05:43] <Dr_willis> search for samba in the package manager
[05:43] <runlevelten> Isn't it in kcontrol by default, whether you have samba or not?
[05:43] <dim_> Dr_willis: ok
[05:43] <sehe> runlevelten: i thought so
[05:43] <Dr_willis> I forget if its default or not. theres an iconin the control panal area for me.
[05:44] <Dr_willis> then again. I know samba well enough to just edit the samba config file. :)
[05:44] <runlevelten> kcontrol  internet & network  Samba
[05:45] <Dr_willis> I use that fusesmbfs stuff  mainly these days.  Samba is transparent to me these days with that.
[05:45] <ScarFreewill> !info gtk+-2.0
[05:45] <ubotu> Package gtk+-2.0 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:45] <dwidmann_> I can't even get samba to work in Feisty :(
[05:45] <sehe> runlevelten: settings:/Network/
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. i always edit the smb.conf file. to enable homes, set up a public share.  then add the users smbpasswrd's
[05:46] <sehe> dwidmann_: i can't *not* i mean i did precious little and it worked out of the box
[05:46] <runlevelten> Ah, the settings kioslave
[05:46] <runlevelten> :)
[05:47] <sehe> Dr_willis: what's the usage pattenr on that? Where do you supply the 'UNC' paths?
[05:47] <sehe> runlevelten: easier to point out the location
[05:47] <sehe> runlevelten: shame you can't settings:/Network/Samba directly
[05:48] <runlevelten> well you can open modules individually with kcmshell.
[05:48] <sehe> runlevelten: ok but there's no intellisense on that like in konq... i'm lazy
[05:48] <runlevelten> ie: kcmshell kcmsambaconf
[05:48] <Dr_willis> sehe,  my samba network shows up where my user decides to 'mount' it to. I do a 'fusesmbfs Network' and  then in the Network Folder i  see MSHOME/MyMachines/Shares
[05:48] <sehe> runlevelten: good tip tho in case i want to make things really easy
[05:49] <runlevelten> sehe: kcmshell --list ;)
[05:49] <sehe> Dr_willis: you mean that (1) workgroup browsing must be enabled (2) you have to keep browsing (slloooooooooow) all the time?
[05:49] <runlevelten> kcmshell `kcmshell --list | grep samba` heh
[05:49] <lttos> what is the name for the developers channel for kde
[05:50] <runlevelten> lttos: what's it for?
[05:50] <sehe> runlevelten: and it lists the 'extension'  modules as well!
[05:50] <Dr_willis> it caches the shares,  and it shows up just as a normal directory from the users end. Ive not had any issues with it being slow.
[05:50] <Dr_willis> But on a mixed linux/windows network. it works out best. :)
[05:50] <sehe> Dr_willis: must admit my aversion to browsing stems from 'network neighbourhood' in WinNT :D
[05:50] <lttos> is there no channel like kde coders or developers on this server runlevelten
[05:50] <drarem> I got a weird message, konvo made me enter my nick as identified
[05:50] <runlevelten> ooh, on mine, the rest of the description is non-valid modules
[05:51] <sehe> drarem: it's standard behaviour
[05:51] <runlevelten> lttos: there is. Start with #kde
[05:51] <Dr_willis> sehe,  theres no brosing. :) it just looks like a dir. However when new shares/machiones show up. there can be a delay when they first appear.
[05:51] <drarem> ok
[05:51] <sehe> drarem: no need unless you want privs like pms
[05:51] <sehe> :register | drarem
[05:51] <sehe> !register | drarem
[05:51] <ubotu> drarem: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:51] <drarem> ty
[05:52] <sehe> Dr_willis: i might, therefore, give it a spin :D
[05:52] <Dr_willis> sehe,  fuse has a lot of other ways to do a similer thing.. theres a sshfs feature for it also (not used that)
[05:53] <sehe> Dr_willis: no need with fish: unless you often use it with e.g. ooffice. Gee, i might get into that fuse shit sooooon
[05:54] <GhOsty2K> folks, why can i not browse /home/user/desktop ?
[05:54] <Dr_willis> sehe,  problem with fish is  well.. I cant use it from the console/when X isent running, or im ssh'd in.. ect.. :)
[05:54] <GhOsty2K> it says no file or directory when there is a directory there.
[05:54] <rolle> hello
[05:54] <Dr_willis> do a ls -l /home/user
[05:54] <Dr_willis> and see what it says is there.
[05:55] <rolle> is there a german kubuntu channel?
[05:55] <sehe> I've got to run...
[05:55] <runlevelten> !de
[05:55] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:55] <sehe> !de | rolle
[05:55] <ubotu> rolle: please see above
[05:55] <GhOsty2K> shows the desktop in blue
[05:55] <GhOsty2K> wither permissions to user user
[05:55] <runlevelten> Wohoo!
[05:55] <rolle> thx
[05:55] <runlevelten> ;)
[05:55] <ObeLisK_12183> Hi @ all :)
[05:55] <sehe> Gh0sty2K: start kdesktop?
[05:55] <GhOsty2K> im in ssh
[05:55] <sehe> good bye all!
[05:56] <GhOsty2K> need to untar a file on the desktop, it wont even let me move the file from there.. in winscp it shows the files there.
[05:56] <boris_> people
[05:56] <ObeLisK_12183> pennergame.de/ref.php?uid=12183
[05:56] <ObeLisK_12183> please help a poor penner xD
[05:57] <runlevelten> have you created any such directory as /home/user/desktop GhOsty2K?
[05:57] <GhOsty2K> well my understanding is that this was there by deafult, otherwise i wudnt have been able to copy the tar file to the dir via winscp
[05:57] <runlevelten> if you called it "desktop", your file will be called "desktop" now.
[05:58] <runlevelten> There is no desktop directory by default afaik.
[05:58] <GhOsty2K> user@ubuntu:~$ ls -l /home/user/
[05:58] <GhOsty2K> total 4
[05:58] <runlevelten> You maybe meant to copy it to Desktop
[05:58] <GhOsty2K> drwx ------ 3 user user 4096 ---- Desktop
[05:58] <GhOsty2K> thats the info that displays when i ls -l
[05:58] <sparrw> kpowersave says my monitor does not support brightness changing.  i can write directly to /proc/acpi/video/GFX0/LCD/brightness to change it, is there any way to make that GUI-friendly?
[05:59] <sparrw> Ghost-Wal: desktop != Desktop
[05:59] <GhOsty2K> ahh
[05:59] <GhOsty2K> sparrw thanks, lol my fault, bloody windows.. arrggh
[05:59] <Ghost-Wal> sparrw ..what?
[06:00] <GhOsty2K> Ghost-Wal i was using desktop not Desktop
[06:00] <sparrw> sorry
[06:00] <Ghost-Wal> OK
[06:00] <Dr_willis> Linux IS Case SeneSeTiVe :)
[06:01] <Dr_willis> heh had to hammer that into a few people during my Linux 101 classes at work.
[06:01] <sparrw> os x is NOT
[06:01] <Dr_willis> and for some reason they could NOT understand the need for spaces after the commands
[06:01] <Dr_willis> actually OS-X  the underlaying OS is.. the gui is not. I belive
[06:01] <sparrw> which leads to fun when CPAN overwrites /usr/bin/head with /usr/bin/Head
[06:01] <Dr_willis> using the Bash Shell under OS0X and it does become case senesitive.
[06:01] <sparrw> no, HFS+ is the default FS for darwin, and its insensitive
[06:01] <Dr_willis> I think.
[06:01] <Dr_willis> My iMac is now a doorstop. :)
[06:02] <sparrw> ive got a mac mini that i want to run linux on, but EFI is beyond me
[06:02] <BluesKaj> what a shame , Dr_willis
[06:02] <runlevelten> Case insensitive default FS on a unix? I hate that kind of stuff.
[06:02] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  given how old it is.. :) im tempted tio put OS9 back on it.. but i dont need it anyway .
[06:03] <GhOsty2K> how do you move directories via shell, it wont let me via winscp
[06:03] <runlevelten> there are only two types of case insensitivity more revolting than that - 1. in programming languages, 2. on the MacDonald's ads
[06:03] <Dr_willis> !bash
[06:03] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[06:03] <GhOsty2K> whats the command..
[06:03] <Dr_willis> !shell
[06:03] <BluesKaj> ok, mysister has an old imac about 7 yrs old now ...it's PITA
[06:05] <BluesKaj> couldn't believe an IMac with the internet explorer browser on it
[06:06] <GhOsty2K> why wont it let me move files to /opt/ ?
[06:06] <GhOsty2K> says permission denied, do i need to sudp ?
[06:06] <GhOsty2K> says permission denied, do i need to sudo?
[06:06] <BluesKaj> could be
[06:06] <BluesKaj> kdesu is more likely
[06:06] <runlevelten> Yes. files in the system outside the user's home directory won't usually belong to the user
[06:07] <GhOsty2K> so how can i change this?
[06:08] <GhOsty2K> i need to replicate another box and need this dir to be in this location /opt/
[06:08] <sparrw> [how]  can i calibrate my wacom tablet?
[06:08] <runlevelten> use sudo to move it.
[06:08] <lttos> what kind of wacom table do you have sparrw, and where do you use it for
[06:08] <GhOsty2K> is it just sudo mv source dest ?
[06:09] <runlevelten> yeah
[06:09] <Ben_Cs> hello
[06:09] <GhOsty2K> thanks, think it worked :0)
[06:09] <GhOsty2K> runlevelten thanks worked
[06:09] <martinus> Hi, I'm trying to install doom3 in linux, and have downloaded Id's installation script, but I can't figure out how to run it. Only message I get back is 'command not found' when I try to run it in shell
[06:09] <Feli> Hello Ben
[06:09] <Ben_Cs> is it normal that kde uses 1.2G of RAM? (no special progs are running)
[06:10] <sehe> Ben_Cs: no
[06:10] <M_42> Does anyone here know how to force a LCD to turn its blacklight off?
[06:10] <runlevelten> martinus, do the following:
[06:10] <sehe> Ben_Cs: but it is normal that such an amount is used in buffering
[06:10] <Ben_Cs> sehe: so WTF?
[06:10] <runlevelten> 1. open a terminal in the folder by pressing F4 2. do this: chmod +x filename
[06:11] <sehe> Ben_Cs: so in ksysguard, look at the tooltip for memory usage and see if the memory is actually 'used' or 'buffer'
[06:11] <Ben_Cs> sehe: performance monitor shows 1.2G is used
[06:11] <runlevelten> 3. do this: ./filename
[06:11] <lttos> sparrw: ???? are you here
[06:11] <martinus> runlevelten: thanks, I'll try
[06:11] <runlevelten> martinus: good stuff :)
[06:11] <sehe> Ben_Cs: buffer is just memory used to speed up disk access but is not in fact 'occupied' if a program wants to use it
[06:11] <sparrw> lttos: its a tablet pc
[06:12] <Ben_Cs> sehe: the tooltip doesn't show how much is buffered
[06:12] <sehe> Ben_Cs: performance monitor? you mean ksysguard?
[06:12] <Ben_Cs> sehe: kde system guard. yes
[06:13] <runlevelten> blueskaj: that's nothing.
[06:13] <sehe> Ben_Cs: default kysguard shows three coloured bands: blue =used, orange=buf, yellow=cached
[06:13] <GhOsty2K> ive just copied a lampp dir from another box to a new box, where would i find the httpd service and mysqld service to start it ?
[06:13] <lttos> but you where talking about a wacom tablet,
[06:13] <sehe> Ben_Cs: it sais so in the tooltip of the graph area
[06:13] <runlevelten> " Download Internet Explorer 5 for UNIX with Outlook Express now. "
[06:13] <lttos> does wacm make's tablet pc's sparrw
[06:13] <sehe> Ben_Cs: i stand correcte: i meant 'cache' memory is not actually occupied
[06:14] <sparrw> lttos: no, they make touch screens
[06:14] <martinus> runlevelten: it worked :D thanks a lot
[06:14] <Ben_Cs> sehe: blue is 344MB, and all till 1.2G is yellow
[06:14] <runlevelten> martinus: good stuff - enjoy!
[06:14] <knoopx> hi all
[06:14] <sehe> Ben_Cs: you only have two colours?
[06:14] <runlevelten> might play some d3 tonight myself now.
[06:14] <lttos> but you where asking how to calibrate your wacom table right
[06:14] <lttos> tablet
[06:15] <knoopx> is it possible to make konqueror show the preview thumb of video files at the middle?
[06:15] <BluesKaj> runlevelten, my sister din't know that IE was microsoft browser first :)
[06:15] <Ben_Cs> sehe: no. 3 colors are set
[06:15] <sehe> Ben_Cs: yellow should be fine. Other wise do cat /proc/meminfo | head
[06:15] <GhOsty2K> BluesKaj lol
[06:15] <Ben_Cs> sehe: but shown are blue and yellow
[06:16] <sehe> Ben_Cs: that shoulld be fine. With me yellow=cache=harmless. The middle band is orange, but if it is missing, no buffered memory is present :)
[06:16] <Ben_Cs> sehe: it shows: Cached:         875268 kB
[06:16] <sehe> Ben_Cs: 'cat /proc/meminfo | head' in a shell will just give named figures (easier)
[06:16] <BluesKaj> my sister has her own business , not exactly technically minded, but she's learning
[06:16] <sehe> Ben_Cs: great. That means, you have a lot of 'spare' memory not required by KDE which is being utilized for speedup
[06:17] <Ben_Cs> cool
[06:17] <Ben_Cs> thanks
[06:17] <sehe> Ben_Cs: this frequently happens when you run indexers (updatedb, beagle-index etc).
[06:17] <sehe> Ben_Cs: lemme show you my stats atm:
[06:17] <Ben_Cs> sehe: ok
[06:18] <sehe> Ben_Cs:  MemTotal:      2075708 kB MemFree:         71700 kB Buffers:        310184 kB Cached:         748268 kB
[06:18] <sehe> so vast majority is cached
[06:18] <Ben_Cs> sehe: ok. you comforted me
[06:18] <Arwen> yes, and that's a Good Thing (tm)
[06:18] <sehe> Ben_Cs: Windows Vista has a similar feature nowadays ('prefetch') and it confuses the hell out of windows users too
[06:19] <sehe> Ben_Cs: not that tehre would actaully be any memory left on Vista ehehehehehe
[06:19] <sehe> brb
[06:19] <runlevelten> and not that many people use it, tbh
[06:19] <knoopx_> is it possible to make konqueror show the preview thumb of video files at the middle?
[06:20] <drif> anyone got experience with x11vnc? I get connected but the window never pops up on client side..
[06:20] <M_42> Does anyone here know how to force a LCD to turn its blacklight off?
[06:21] <sehe> M_42: other than remove power?
[06:21] <M_42> lol
[06:21] <xerox1> how to configure compiz under kde?
[06:21] <sehe> M_42: assuming you mean backlight, i'd say that's monitor vendor specific if at all possible
[06:22] <M_42> its a KDS radius
[06:22] <sehe> xerox1: i can recommend to install beryl-manager as a wm-switcher for that
[06:22] <GhOsty2K> how do i stop apache2 on ubuntu? /etc/init.d/apache2 stop does not work
[06:22] <sehe> xerox1: dunno whether you havce to install beryl as a whole first
[06:22] <xerox1> beryl and compiz? thought there may be problems
[06:23] <sehe> xerox1: not with me
[06:23] <sehe> xerox1: i can switch on the fly
[06:23] <xerox1> sehe: thanks
[06:23] <GhOsty2K> ?
[06:24] <sehe> GhOsty2K: sudo ?
[06:24] <GhOsty2K> didnt work
[06:24] <sehe> GhOsty2K: apache2 or apache installed?
[06:24] <GhOsty2K> apache2 s
[06:24] <GhOsty2K> apache2
[06:24] <sehe> apache mught be /etc/init.d/httpd
[06:24] <GhOsty2K> no dir called httpd
[06:25] <sehe> GhOsty2K: must be freak (crashed ' hanging apache2)
[06:25] <GhOsty2K> nope, its serving the default website, lol
[06:25] <sehe> GhOsty2K: i'd try killall apache2 (or ps -Af|grep apac for processes)
[06:25] <GhOsty2K> k will try
[06:25] <sehe> GhOsty2K: If you don't like that you might  reboot, init 1 or whatever
[06:26] <GhOsty2K> that worked
[06:26] <GhOsty2K> :)
[06:26] <sehe> GhOsty2K: should work now, if it recurs you have a bigger problem (ppbly config related)
[06:26] <sehe> i'm now definitely off for dinner
[06:26] <sehe> cheers
[06:27] <ubuntu> I have Fedora 7 installed, and I'm trying to get it to dual-boot with KUbuntu 7.04.  I have put the KUbuntu CD into my computer, and I'm using KUbuntu right now with Konversation.  At the same time, I'm also going through the install wizard
[06:28] <bfrbfr> I've chosen to manually partition the disk.
[06:28] <bfrbfr> How would I create a new partition for KUbuntu?
[06:28] <bfrbfr> Right now, I have /dev/sda1 ext3 /media/sda1 size: 106mb used: 23mb
[06:29] <bfrbfr> and /dev/sda2 size:249949mb used: unknown
[06:29] <gargamel> hi
[06:30] <dim_> i couldn't get samba working
[06:30] <gargamel> has anyone pidgin?
[06:30] <Huey> does the kernel included with kubuntu provide stack-smashing protection?
[06:30] <Huey> i'm trying to exploit my own program as an exercise, and keep getting a segfault rather than a shell
[06:30] <dim_> how can I enable and start sharing files with samba in kubuntu?
[06:31] <M_42> does anyone here know.. is it possible to kill all signal to a monitor in linux
[06:32] <BluesKaj> ctrl alt backspsce
[06:32] <BluesKaj> or ctrl alt f2
[06:34] <drif> BluesKaj: nasty..
[06:34] <Arwen> M_42, unplug it
[06:35] <brendan___> Hello, does anyone know a media key manager that does not require X to work
[06:35] <Arwen> BluesKaj, if you shut down X.org, the tty consoles are still sending it a signal
[06:35] <brendan___> so it can be used from the terminal
[06:35] <xerox1> gargamel: pidgin didnt work with my machine
[06:35] <GhOsty2K> how can i find the location of apache? i think i have two installed in different locations
[06:35] <Arwen> brendan___, what's a media key manager?
[06:35] <brendan___> Arwen, something that maps keycode to commands
[06:36] <Arwen> oh, don't know one
[06:37] <Martinus> Man, after starting Doom with doom3 from terminal, it logged out of KDE, restarted X, and prompted me with the login screen. When I type my passwd, it just go back to the login-screen again...
[06:37] <Martinus> no X-access at all
[06:38] <jthomas> please don't kill me: anyone know of a Windows IRC channel?
[06:39] <BluesKaj> #windows
[06:39] <Arwen> ##windows
[06:40] <jthomas> wow its really there, thanks guys!
[06:41] <BluesKaj> we try not to lead ppl astray , but if you must .....
[06:41] <M_42> Arwen, is there a command I can set to kill signal after inactivity?
[06:41] <Arwen> don't know
[06:41] <M_42> k thx
[06:42] <BluesKaj> you can use the system settings power saving timer
[06:42] <bfrbfr> Does anybody know if I can create a partition in the KUbuntu installer?
[06:43] <BluesKaj> dunno if it totally kills X , somehow I doubt it
[06:43] <bfrbfr> I'm trying to get Fedora 7 and KUbuntu to dual-boot, with Fedora 7 already installed
[06:43] <Martinus> have anyone experienced something like that?
[06:43] <dim_> people how do I get to configure samba? http://localhost:901 does not work
[06:44] <BluesKaj> bfrbfr, my question is, why ?
[06:44] <dettoaltrimenti> I just mounted an external NTFS drive in kubuntu, and I'm having two problems- I can only read, but not delete or write, and I have to be superuser to access the folder in konqueror. I just mounted by doing 'sudo mount sdb1 /media/usb'- what can I do?
[06:45] <bfrbfr> Why use Fedora 7 and KUbuntu 7.04?  I like both...I'd like to use both at the same time.
[06:45] <BluesKaj> dim , I've been using smb4k samba browser , and my localhost swat is broken too but smb4k still gives me access to the windows network
[06:45] <bfrbfr> I have like 200gb hard drive space, which should be more than enough, I think
[06:45] <dim_> BlueKaj: ok and how can I install and configure smb4k then?
[06:46] <BluesKaj> yeah dim_ , go for it
[06:47] <jossver_> but dual boot is not always good
[06:47] <jossver_> I have done a  dual boot once but windows was flipping as always
[06:48] <knoopx> uh does twinview split what you see in both monitors?
[06:48] <dim_> BlueKaj: after installing smb4k, how can I gain access to it?
[06:48] <knoopx> cant figure how to only expand the desktop to one more monitor
[06:48] <dim_> the same? http://localhost:901?
[06:49] <Assid> swat ?
[06:50] <dim_> Assid: swat isn't working, don't know why. Then how can i get access to smb4k?
[06:51] <Assid> dim_: dont know about swat.. ive given up on samba.. it costed me a project
[06:51] <BluesKaj> dim_,, lookin k-menu/utilities
[06:51] <dim_> Assid: what package do you use then instead of samba?
[06:51] <Assid> dim_:  i use samba regular share.. configuring.. i manually edited the conf file
[06:51] <GhOsty2K> (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80
[06:51] <GhOsty2K> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[06:51] <GhOsty2K> Unable to open logs
[06:52] <GhOsty2K> whats that mean?
[06:52] <GhOsty2K> lol
[06:54] <bfrbfr> eh
[06:54] <boris_> how do i start kbfx ?
[06:54] <boris_> i mean
[06:55] <boris_> how do i enable it
[06:55] <flake> how do i find out if a box is ubuntu, sun, fedora, etc.. via terminal?
[06:56] <zdadrdem_> uname -a?
[06:56] <flake> it's either a sun or a centos :/
[06:57] <drewcipher__> uname -a
[06:58] <Ben_Cs> what's the difference (in kde-look.org) between "theme manager theme" and "theme/style for kde" ?
[06:58] <BluesKaj> dim_, after you launch smb4k , you will prolly get a access denied message, run these 2 commands in the terminal. if security isn't a problem on you network : sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbmnt,  then, sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbumount
[06:59] <BluesKaj> i have to run ...later folks
[06:59] <zdadrdem_> Ben_Cs theme manager theme needs the theme manager
[07:00] <Ben_Cs> zdadrdem_: but still, is it installed the usual way?
[07:01] <boris_> how do i enable kbfx
[07:02] <zdadrdem_> Ben_Cs iirc yes
[07:02] <Ben_Cs> ok. thanks
[07:04] <zdadrdem_> Ben_Cs systemsettings has no theme icon, maybe you have to use kcontrol
[07:05] <Ben_Cs> ok
[07:08] <combo> ::: BERYL SUX AS HEEEELL!! :[[[[[[[[[[[
[07:09] <combo> - is that correct, isn't it ? :}
[07:10] <jerware> hi
[07:10] <jerware> i configured CUPS.  and then lp and lpr says Error - no default destination available.
[07:10] <Arwen> combo, no caps please
[07:10] <Arwen> Whether or not Beryl sucks doesn't really matter since it's dead software.
[07:11] <combo> Arwen: sorry :) but i've been little frustrated
[07:11] <combo> all day i were trying to install and configure beryl and at last when it happened ... no comment :|
[07:11] <ninHer> hi all
[07:13] <runlevelten> combo: That's OK, we all get frustrated sometimes man
[07:13] <runlevelten> especially if something just won't come together.
[07:13] <jerware> especially when windows can do it but linux cant.
[07:13] <runlevelten> windows can do beryl, or CUPS?
[07:14] <jerware> print
[07:14] <combo> runlevelten: yes, yes... i'm to nervous... :]
[07:14] <Arwen> why would you need CUPS on Windows? o.O
[07:14] <jussi01> hmmm, wheere is the setting in kopete for keeping logs of the messages in chats?
[07:14] <Arwen> and I think Windows does support connecting to a cups server
[07:15] <jerware> nm selectd wrong printer  :P
[07:15] <runlevelten> to connect to a cups server (not as outlandish an idea as you appear to think, heh)
[07:15] <runlevelten> and yes you can :)
[07:16] <jerware> must i set up samba if a windows machine wants to print via my CUPS server?
[07:16] <runlevelten> I have stress 'n' burn. I need to play games.
[07:17] <Assid> jerware: as far as i remember.. yes
[07:17] <runlevelten> anyone got TC:E or enemy territory installed?
[07:17] <Assid> if a windows machine needs to connect to it
[07:17] <petitout> hi maybe someome can help me... Isn't there supposed to be an add/remove program in kubuntu?
[07:17] <jerware> is it possible they just speak IPP rather than samba?
[07:18] <combo> guys maybe u know where can i download this wallpaper: http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/5778/534001fk2.jpg it's quite popular and i love it, huh ? :]
[07:18] <pawjan> hello kubuntu users, can I ask a small question here ?
[07:18] <combo> i've seen this wallpaper many times on different screenshots
[07:18] <jussi01> !ask | pawjan
[07:18] <ubotu> pawjan: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:18] <fannagoganna> sure, shoot
[07:18] <pawjan> oki doki
[07:19] <pawjan> so, using 7.04 mixture of x,k,u-buntu, now installed on different partition 7.10 but ONLY KUBUNTU, of course /home/pawjan I want to use but ...
[07:19] <pawjan> so far so good, just question:
[07:20] <fannagoganna> what is the question?
[07:20] <pawjan> how to REFRESH menu - I have lots of old apps there which are NOT EVEN INSTALLED on new 7.10 - I know there is kmenu but doing it manually ...
[07:20] <pawjan> so I'm looking for command like: kmenu --refesh-all-menu
[07:21] <pawjan> is there any like this ?
[07:21] <pag> combo, http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Landscape+Keltern+%232?content=43844 <- isn't that it?
[07:22] <pawjan> hmm
[07:23] <pawjan> nothing ?
[07:23] <combo> pag: yes! it's this one! you're my man! everytime when i'm asking for help you come with a hand! thanks a lot!
[07:23] <fannagoganna> i've never heard of anything like this
[07:23] <pag> combo, np :)
[07:23] <combo> :]
[07:24] <pag> pawjan, if you remove menu-config file, then menus should be recreated - I can't remember the filename though
[07:27] <petitout> having problems with removing and adding software as source I know there is supposed to be an add/remove app but can<t find it could it have been disabled because i installed MCE over Kubuntu???
[07:27] <pawjan> hmm, so by hands only ?
[07:28] <pawjan> or, where is menu file in .kde ?
[07:29] <pawjan> .kde/share/config/kickerr this one ?
[07:29] <elite101> i need help on mountin a FAT32 partiton i need the command to open up fstab
[07:29] <pawjan> elite: sudo vi /etc/fstab
[07:29] <elite101> kdesu kate /etc/fstab ?
[07:30] <Dr_willis> petitout,  as source? that add/remove app dosent handle from 'source' type installs.
[07:31] <elite101> is this correct:  /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 vfat user,users,uuid=1000,dmask=022,fmask=133  0 0
[07:32] <petitout> Dr_willis i installed programs yesterday with apt but had problems keeping it clean
[07:32] <Dr_willis> petitout,  clarify the problem. apt/adept/synaptic/that add/remove programs icon . all use the same backend. (the apt-get system)
[07:32] <petitout> was wondering if there is an install/remove app that kept it clean but can<t find it in kMenu
[07:33] <Dr_willis> the install/remove apt - is just calling adept, or synaptic with some options.
[07:33] <Dr_willis> 'keep it clean' means nothing to me.. clarify what you mean
[07:33] <elite101> what the ? i go to disk and filesystems and it only shows the control center
[07:33] <elite101> :S
[07:33] <petitout> sorry kindda new at this
[07:33] <llutz> elite101: /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 vfat users,uid=1000,dmask=022,fmask=133  0 0
[07:34] <petitout> is there a graphical interface fr adding and removing under kubuntu
[07:34] <petitout> ?
[07:34] <Arwen> adding and removing what?
[07:34] <petitout> new programs
[07:34] <Arwen> !adept
[07:34] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[07:34] <elite101> IIutz, whats that?
[07:35] <elite101> the same thing i just typed?
[07:35] <llutz> elite101: look closer, its corrected
[07:35] <petitout> checking it out thx
[07:35] <elite101> okay
[07:35] <Dr_willis> adept/synaptic are the main guis
[07:36] <sparrw> which kde*-dbg package will help me with System Settings crashing?
[07:38] <petitout> Is it possible they,re not installed on my system
[07:38] <elite101> errrrrrrrr its not opening open disk and filesystems menu
[07:38] <elite101> its crashed or something?
[07:38] <elite101> it keeps on showing Control Center
[07:40] <petitout> Can't find adept/synaptic I think it has got something to do with MCE doing all the system updating.
[07:41] <elite101> i need help mounting my HDD is there a command?
[07:42] <elite101> sudo /mount/hdb1
[07:42] <elite101> ?