[04:49] <molly_> ono how i am abel two access other network chats? they want sum nick serv code no what is that?
[04:49] <b1n42y> molly_, maybe pastebin what the problem is we cant read minds
[04:49] <lucax> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/128074/
[04:49] <job_> tech0007,  it worked.  i changed from alsa to pulse.  thanks for your help.
[04:49] <unop> technologiclee,  source ~/.bashrc
[04:50] <lucax> http://paste.ubuntu.com/128074/   heres the problem with mplayer on intrepid... no idea what to do
[04:50] <jrib> lucax: for the channel, not me (I'm leaving)
[04:50] <b1n42y> lucax, what do you use mplayer for?
[04:51] <Bigjalowos> some kinda vid player
[04:51] <lucax> watch movies
[04:51] <jrib> lucax: you should include the command you ran by the way
[04:51] <lucax> gmplayer
[04:51] <b1n42y> lucax, save yourself a headache, vlc is great for that
[04:51] <bruce89> ich
[04:51] <ghoti> I second the recommendation of VLC
[04:51] <jrib> lucax: does mplayer /path/to/some/media/file   work?
[04:52] <molly_> wow do you get nick passwords?
[04:52] <OmiKrOn> hi
[04:52] <OmiKrOn> any ideea why i get this
[04:52] <OmiKrOn> ?
[04:52] <OmiKrOn> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-security/Release  Unable to find expected entry  multiuniverse/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[04:52] <jrib> !register | molly_
[04:52] <FloodBot2> OmiKrOn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:52] <b1n42y> molly_, yes
[04:52] <mezy> ?
[04:52] <b1n42y> !pastebin | OmiKrOn
[04:52] <jrib> OmiKrOn: does it really say "multiuniverse"?
[04:52] <b1n42y> !ask | OmiKrOn
[04:52] <mezy> that was weird
[04:52] <molly_> register at freenode?
[04:53] <OmiKrOn> imman idiot
[04:53] <OmiKrOn> thanks
[04:53] <tech0007> lucax: try upgrading mplayer...mine says 1.0rc2-4.3.3
[04:53] <molly_> k thanx
[04:53] <mezy> how do i get into a dictionary that has a space in its title using the command line?
[04:54] <lucax> jrib, yeah mplayer does work... but i cant use the gui
[04:54] <b1n42y> mezy, tab
[04:54] <ghoti> mezy: put a backslash before the space
[04:54] <ghoti> mezy: or use tab-completion
[04:55] <ghoti> mezy: you can use a backspace before any odd characters that give you trouble, backslashes included.
[04:55] <ghoti> mezy: use a backslash, even
[04:55] <jrib> lucax: try resetting its configuration?  ~/.mplayer/gui.conf I think.  See if you have anything in ~/.mplayer/config .  Does it still crash if you pass gmplayer a media file on the command line too?  Try different video outputs (like -vo x11).  Good luck
[04:56] <unop> mezy, or just quote the filename.   "/path/to/file name with spaces"
[04:57] <visitor> hello
[04:57] <Zlogger> hi
[04:57] <visitor> is there a linux console for windows?
[04:58] <bruce89> !cygwin
[04:58] <ghoti> depends on what you mean
[04:58] <ghoti> if you mean bash, then yes, cygwin
[04:58] <bruce89> !mingw
[04:58] <ghoti> if you mean a way to SSH into other servers..
[04:58] <ghoti> !putty
[04:58] <bruce89> !mingw32
[04:58] <Thirtysixway> or command prompt
[04:58] <Thirtysixway> cmd
[04:58] <visitor> ok. thanks, i'll try to google it.
[04:58] <ghoti> cheers
[04:59] <kushalone> !cygwin
[04:59] <visitor> Thirtysixway: what i mean is a linux console, not cmd. :)
[05:00] <Thirtysixway> visitor: yeah go with either putty to use remote console, or cygwin for bash on windows
[05:00] <ghoti> visitor: do you mean a bash prompt on the local machine?
[05:00] <bruce89> Slàinte
[05:01] <visitor> Thirtysixway, ghoti: i mean a bash prompt.
[05:01] <ghoti> visitor: then cygwin or wingw32 is the way to go
[05:02] <visitor> ghoti: ok, i'm checking it right now.
[05:03] <whoiam> how to type other language on Kubuntu
[05:03] <jak_> hi
[05:04] <bruce89> !i18n
[05:05] <Dreamglider> is there any diffrence in running ubuntu vs. kubuntu other then personal prefrencess ?
[05:05] <bruce89> whoiam: !locale
[05:05] <anthonys> Dreamglider: default desktop environment
[05:05] <bruce89> !locale | whoiam
[05:05] <whoiam> I can type other language easily, but in Kubuntu is not
[05:05] <C-S-B> is it bettrer to compile drivers into kerel or just load modules?
[05:05] <whoiam> vietnam
[05:06] <ghoti> C-S-B: in my opinion, the day of monolithic kernels is long-past
[05:06] <unop> C-S-B, depends - most of the time, it's better to use modules
[05:06] <Dreamglider> ergo personal preferences !
[05:06] <ghoti> C-S-B: I would make more or less everything modular, barring things needed at boot-time (filesystems, netwrok drivers, etc)
[05:06] <anthonys> Dreamglider: and default software included
[05:06] <Dreamglider> ok
[05:06] <whoiam> I can type other language easily in Ubuntu, but in Kubuntu is not
[05:07] <bruce89> ghoti: I know, that Linux thing is past it
[05:07] <C-S-B> ghoti, thats what ive done, cheers :)
[05:07] <bruce89> whoiam: you'll likely need some KDE language pack thing
[05:07] <ghoti> C-S-B: my pleasure :)
[05:08] <ghoti> whoiam: You might Google around for KDE Localization
[05:08] <bruce89> whoiam: language-pack-kde-vi
[05:08] <whoiam> I do
[05:09] <bruce89> !info language-pack-kde-vi > whoia
[05:09] <whoiam> and do follow the construction
[05:09] <bruce89> !info language-pack-kde-vi > whoiam
[05:09] <whoiam> but It doesn't work
[05:09] <bruce89> !kde
[05:10] <bruce89> perhaps there's something in KDE's setting thing
[05:10] <disappearedng> kde sucks
[05:10] <bruce89> !flame | disappearedng
[05:10] <ghoti> that's a matter of opinion
[05:10] <tech0007> kde is a memory hog
[05:10] <disappearedng> nowadays
[05:10] <disappearedng> it used to be good
[05:10] <ghoti> personally, I prefer CLI :)
[05:10] <b1n42y> is gaim pidgin now?
[05:10] <disappearedng> even linux torvalds switch to Gnome from DKE
[05:10] <disappearedng> KDE
[05:10] <bruce89> !stop
[05:11] <anthonys> b2n42y: yes
[05:11] <ghoti> b1n42y: yes
[05:11] <coldhak> fluxbox is better?
[05:11] <b1n42y> ta
[05:11] <anthonys> best is xmonad
[05:11] <coldhak> xmonad? haven't heard of that one
[05:11] <anthonys> written in haskell
[05:11] <b1n42y> !offtopic
[05:11] <hanasaki> how do I throttle my cpu speed? its an amd dual core
[05:12] <bruce89> !opinion
[05:12] <disappearedng> !lol
[05:12] <disappearedng> wow
[05:12] <disappearedng> #ubuntu is strict
[05:12] <bruce89> good advice anywhere
[05:12] <coldhak> wait, somebody actually asked which was best? i thought people were just being funny.
[05:13] <bruce89> I like getting ubottu involved
[05:13] <ghoti> I think bruce89 was just trying to nip a 'holy war' in the bud
[05:13] <ghoti> so to speak
[05:13] <anthonys> probably
[05:13] <anthonys> good call too
[05:13] <bruce89> I couldn't find a better thing than stop
[05:13] <ghoti> though I assert that the CLI uses less RAM than any GUI :p
[05:14] <anthonys> true, but you also don't have all the features of a GUI
[05:14] <bruce89> !fact
[05:14] <anthonys> such as images
[05:14] <coldhak> mplayer can, technically play video in CLI
[05:14] <bruce89> you've never heard of ascii art
[05:14] <ghoti> images are overrated. ASCII art uber alles!
[05:14] <hanasaki> how do I set my cpu speed ?
[05:14] <bruce89> hanasaki: you don't
[05:14] <tech0007> hanasaki: in the bios
[05:15] <anthonys> bruce89: I mean images such as HD movies, stuff like that
[05:15] <hanasaki> ?? huh? I found powernowd-k8
[05:15] <ghoti> hanasaki: in the CPU selection process when you're building the computer :)
[05:15] <anthonys> not ascii art
[05:15] <bruce89> anthonys: there was a ascii feed of the football world cup
[05:15] <bruce89> anthonys: http://ascii-wm.net/
[05:16] <hanasaki> bruce89:  tech0007 ghoti  I have it overclocked to 2.8GHz but the panel applet only shows 2.5 max
[05:16] <WebcamWonder> Could someone reproduce this bug? Open a file in GVim, turn on syntax highlighting, and scroll around to see the CPU go crazy at 100%?
[05:16] <anthonys> bruce89: it was much more fun on an HDTV
[05:16]  * bruce89 didn't know HD existed in 2006
[05:16] <anthonys> bruce89: it did, but it wasn't used much
[05:16] <hanasaki> bruce89:  I worked on HD in 1990 in japan
[05:16] <bruce89> !ot
[05:16] <Geep> hanasaki: if your cpu supports freq scaling, you can adjust it using cpufreq-selector (GUI)
[05:16] <bruce89> just kidding
[05:17] <anthonys> I know
[05:17] <hanasaki> cpufreq-selector
[05:17] <hanasaki> Failed to acquire org.gnome.CPUFreqSelector: Connection ":1.141" is not allowed to own the service "org.gnome.CPUFreqSelector" due to security policies in the configuration file
[05:17] <bruce89> difficult to detect sarcasm
[05:17] <ghoti> In my case, just assume it's there :)
[05:17] <anthonys> one of the only problems of IRC
[05:17] <hanasaki> Geep:  what about that error?
[05:17] <arooni_____> my load is at 2 and its kinda hard to use firefox
[05:17] <bruce89> !sarcasm
[05:17] <unop> WebcamWonder, about 35% CPU taken up for a 500 line file - that's expected.
[05:18] <WebcamWonder> unop: Continous scrolling?
[05:18] <unop> WebcamWonder, yea
[05:18] <Geep> hanasaki: try sudo cpufreq-selector
[05:18] <ITechJunkie> Is anyone in here having problems with gnome-terminal? The charactors on screen don't seem to be refreshing correctly...
[05:19] <bruce89> !gksudo
[05:19] <hanasaki> Geep:  that just appears to hang when run as root
[05:19] <WebcamWonder> unop: That is very weird. I am on intrepid, and the gvim that comes with it (will check the version), and when I do some scrolling with even a 100 line file in C syntax, or even type in new stuff in GVim, both my cores scream at 100%
[05:19] <OmiKrOn> ok apt finds drbd8-utils but can't find the other drbd8 packages
[05:19] <WebcamWonder> !info gvim
[05:19] <OmiKrOn> any ideas?
[05:19] <OmiKrOn> !info drbd8-module-source
[05:19] <OmiKrOn> how about hardy?
[05:19] <unop> WebcamWonder, I suppose this also depends on the type of video card you have, driver and how much VideoRAM the card has too - having said that, my card only has 128MB
[05:19] <Geep> hanasaki: I haven't dealt with it in a while, but I used http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/11/04/enabling-cpu-frequency-scaling/ as a source when I did.
[05:20] <dc_361> alguien habla español soy nuevo con esto
[05:20] <unop> WebcamWonder, that's really odd
[05:20] <bruce89> Package gvim does not exist in jaunty
[05:20] <unop> !es | dc_361
[05:20] <yigal> hello I'm making a switch from CLI apps. mpd/mutt --> GNOME stuff, does anyone like something more than rhythmbox
[05:20] <arooni_____> my load is at 2 and its kinda hard to use firefox .... i have core 2 duo and 3GB of ram.  is there a way to reduce my load?
[05:20] <whoiam> is there any program to recovery linux like norton ghost?
[05:20] <WebcamWonder> unop: Well, I run nVidia blob, and it is integrated, so okish. But nothing too terrible. But yeah, and vim behaves fine
[05:20] <bruce89> arooni_____: top
[05:20] <PoetOfShadows> yigai: try banshee
[05:20] <yigal> PoetOfShadows: will do
[05:21] <unop> !info vim-gtk | bruce89
[05:21] <arooni_____> bruce89, what else can i do
[05:21] <bruce89> arooni_____: see what's going mad in top, and kill it
[05:21] <Geep> hanasaki: gnome has a panel applet.. cpufreq-selector is not gui - I messed that up
[05:22] <arooni_____> bruce89, by cpu %?
[05:22] <hanasaki> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6857290
[05:22] <hanasaki>  Geep could you take a look at my thread above and give your thoughts?
[05:22] <snarkster> i need to get some data off a laptop that is going to linux, but im having video issues as its nvidia and Im running off usb ISO. how can I get video working
[05:22] <bruce89> arooni_____: anything unusual there?
[05:22] <Fahmy> hii
[05:23] <arooni_____> Bruce, firefox is at 49% and 33%, then, gdm 12%, .... then nothing else is really up there
[05:23] <arooni_____> bruce89, cpu%
[05:23] <Fahmy> i wanna learn ubunto in 1 week, how can i do this mission ? i am newbie into linux world. i am used tot he windown system. plz /msg me
[05:23] <bruce89> arooni_____: that sounds rather high
[05:23] <visitor> Fahmy: thats very hard
[05:23] <arooni_____> bruce89, for firefox?
[05:23] <bruce89> in general
[05:24] <Dreamglider> seems like i was able to copy everything of that damaged partition !
[05:24] <ghoti> Dreamglider: That's a good thing!
[05:24] <bruce89> Dreamglider: how long did dd run for?
[05:24] <jlink> I've got a question that doesn't really belong here, but perhaps someone can help. I'm trying to use Boost::Asio, but can't figure out the library to link when compiling with g++
[05:24] <snarkster> aha f4 safe graphics mode.. maybe thatll work
[05:24] <WebcamWonder> unop: Found an Arch user complaining, but his solution doesn't work for me http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=66185
[05:24] <Dreamglider> bruce89, an hour or 90 minutes or so
[05:25] <nanotube> Fahmy: websearch for things like "ubuntu tutorial" and whatnot. there are also books and/or ebooks available out there you can read.
[05:25] <bruce89> Dreamglider: lucky
[05:25] <visitor> Fahmy: have you already installed ubuntu on your computer?
[05:25] <yigal> PoetOfShadows:  yes this is nice, I'm also moving from Archlinux to Ubuntu I think, I'm tired of doing my own thing, in any event thank you
[05:26] <Dreamglider> bruce89, every file i have checked seems to be ok, i checked  random txt's and jpg's and movie files all work fine and every file i see has a name
[05:26] <visitor> any filipino here?
[05:26] <unop> WebcamWonder, do you have any 3rd party plugins started with vim?
[05:26] <PoetOfShadows> yigal: I personally went the other way, hated all the stuff ubuntu loaded onto my machine; but I guess everybody does their own thing; in any case, no problem, glad I could help
[05:27] <unop> WebcamWonder, is the problem the same with vim in a terminal?
[05:27] <WebcamWonder> unop: Nope. Nothing. Just 4 things in my rc (tab stuff, etc.). And no, vim works perfectly
[05:27] <arooni_____> bruce89, how do i reduce load
[05:28] <bruce89> !ph | visitor
[05:28] <ghoti> arooni_____: stop doing so much :p
[05:28] <Geep> hanasaki: Your problem maybe similar to this: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=52541 - This isn't really my area of expertise.. I'd try disabling cpufreq scaling entirely and see if you get access the the full horsepower (see final post in link)
[05:28] <visitor> bruce89: thanks
[05:28] <bruce89> arooni_____: what's your load average?
[05:29] <yigal> PoetOfShadows:  ya, I started with Debian 4 years ago, then for Ubuntu for a little less than a year, I couldn't stand the extra sauce, but regardless of my technical skills I'm a user not a dev., at least most of the time and I want something that is being worked on from all angles like Ubuntu - sorry for the rant :), thanks for the GUI help
[05:29] <unop> WebcamWonder, I'm not sure what i'd do at this point
[05:29] <arooni_____> bruce89, 1.6.3
[05:29] <josh_> need all help getting this error and tried all that i can think of can anyone maybe give me some advice on how to fix it heres a pastebin of the error http://pastebin.com/m6641dd8f
[05:29] <unop> WebcamWonder, you might like to ask the guys in #vim
[05:29] <disappearedng> Hey is size_t a type?
[05:29] <PoetOfShadows> yigal: to each their own
[05:29] <bruce89> not too bad
[05:29] <WebcamWonder> unop: hmm... Alright, thanks for the help!
[05:29] <lstarnes> disappearedng: I think it is
[05:29] <sauvin> disappearedng, yes. It's normally a typedef.
[05:29] <bruce89> disappearedng: it is an alias for an integer of some size
[05:30] <bruce89> known as gsize in GLib
[05:30] <deagle> hello
[05:30] <ghoti> Cordial greetings, deagle
[05:30] <deagle> thank you!
[05:30] <bruce89> !hi | deagle
[05:31] <deagle> does anyone know why the delete song plugin for audacious crashes as soon as i try to delete a song?
[05:31] <PoetOfShadows> bruce89: how many of these commands to you know?!
[05:31] <ghoti> bruce89, wouldn't 'hi' be quicker to type than '!hi | $nick'?
[05:31] <bruce89> PoetOfShadows: I guess
[05:31] <jlink> Question: I just hooked up a second monitor and setup BigDesktop, so it's like I've got one big monitor (2048x768). However, I only have one task bar, and it's on my primary screen. Is there a way to have a task bar on the secondary screen which tracks tasks only on that screen, so two screens of tasks aren't crammed into one task bar?
[05:31] <OmiKrOn> any ideea why apt can`t find drbd0.8-module-source on hardy heron?
[05:31] <bruce89> and I PM ubottu in advance
[05:32] <whoiam> is there any program to recovery linux like norton ghost, to deploy on many PCs?
[05:32] <bruce89> !dd
[05:32] <yigal> bruce you the man
[05:32] <PoetOfShadows> whoiam: tried remastersys?
[05:33] <whoiam> thanks
[05:33] <whoiam> i'll google it
[05:33] <ghoti> whoiam: You could also look into Mondi
[05:33] <user_name> Hello
[05:33] <ghoti> whoiam: er, Mondo
[05:34] <user_name> I need some help and stuff.
[05:34] <PoetOfShadows> !hi | user_name
[05:34] <Dreamglider> i want to make a NTFS partition with gparted but ntfs is grayed out ?
[05:34] <datapolitical> what's the best bandwidth monitor for ubuntu?
[05:34] <SeaPhor> is there a big difference in the driver support between the 32bit and 64bit OS?
[05:34] <bruce89> !info drbd0.7-module-source > OmiKrOn
[05:34] <josh_> http://pastebin.com/m6641dd8f  anyone??
[05:34] <ghoti> datapolitical: I've had good luck with ntop
[05:34] <datapolitical> (so i can kill my connection when i hit a certain number of gigabytes)
[05:34] <datapolitical> k
[05:34] <datapolitical> thanks fish
[05:35] <ghoti> my pleasure
[05:35] <yigal> /msg ubottu
[05:35] <bruce89> SeaPhor: not really
[05:36] <Fahmy> i am using laptop, 256 ram. while isntalling ubunto it stopped at the keyboard layout and the computer hanged. what should i do now ?
[05:36] <bruce89> Dreamglider: ntfsprogs
[05:36] <SeaPhor> bruce89, ok, last time i tried was with 7.04 and had all kinds of issues
[05:37] <dronix> Fahmy: where u using a burned iso?
[05:37] <bruce89> SeaPhor: unless you need non-free drivers
[05:37] <Fahmy> yes i got it from the offical site of ubunto
[05:37] <PoetOfShadows> SeaPhor: as far as I know, ndiswrapper doesn't work with 64-bit OSs
[05:37] <Dreamglider> bruce89,  will it enable ntfs in gperted ?
[05:37] <SeaPhor> bruce89, nvidia vid card is about all
[05:37] <PoetOfShadows> so if you need that, then 32-bit would be the way to go
[05:37] <Dreamglider> gparted*
[05:38] <bruce89> SeaPhor: that's fine, I have that myself
[05:38] <bruce89> Dreamglider: should do
[05:38] <dronix> Fahmy: make sure your cd is error free. Give it another try, if it doesn't work. then try using wubi
[05:38] <Fahmy> dronix i did that test.
[05:38] <Fahmy> what is wubi ?
[05:38] <Nathan1995> -_-
[05:39] <dronix> wubi is a windows installer for ubuntu. It install ubuntu from within windows.
[05:39] <PoetOfShadows> Fahmy: it lets you install Ubuntu into Windows as a normal application, letting you test Ubuntu w/o a CD, also making it easily removable if you don't like it
[05:39] <ghoti> Fahmy: your computer only has 256MB of RAM, right? You might look into ubuntu; it's made for less powerful computers
[05:39] <SeaPhor> bruce89, cool, cause i just tried recordmydesktop  and its really messed up, my guess is i need more ram, 3g just not enough
[05:39] <bruce89> !wubi
[05:39] <ghoti> Fahmy: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/xubuntu
[05:40] <Fahmy> PoetOfShadows i first tried to use the the isntall on windows option, it said, the memory i have is 255 and that may cause a problem.
[05:40] <yigal> SeaPhor: 3g not enough?
[05:40] <bruce89> Fahmy: probably better off with the alternate CD, the use of Python in the graphical installer means it requrires loads of RAM
[05:40] <SeaPhor> yigal, nope, the vid is all messed up
[05:40] <PoetOfShadows> Fahmy:  I believe the minimum for Ubuntu installation is 256 MB, so it might be a problem during install
[05:41] <yigal> SeaPhor: that's vid, not mem. though
[05:41] <PoetOfShadows> I'm gonna say to follow bruce89's advice here
[05:41] <Fahmy> bruce89 what is the alternate cd ??
[05:41] <yigal> SeaPhor: the driver
[05:41] <ghoti> Fahmy: xubuntu only needs 192MB for the installation, so that might be a better fit for your computer.
[05:41] <bruce89> !alternate
[05:41] <Fahmy> !minimal
[05:41] <ghoti> Fahmy: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/xubuntu
[05:41] <yigal> is xorg still used by ubuntu?
[05:41] <bruce89> wow, ubottu should be fully automated
[05:41] <bruce89> yigal: of course
[05:42] <yigal> bruce89: ok, I'm using arch and I heard you had some auto. deal going on
[05:42] <SeaPhor> yigal, does fine for normal recording, but i was recording a session of me playing City of Heroes- heavy fight scene
[05:43] <yigal> SeaPhor: interesting, not a gamer myself, so I should desist from any comments :)
[05:43] <Mushrooms> This is terrible.. I just did an update on my ubuntu box, and now, I can not use my wireless internet anymore. Could someone please help me?
[05:44] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: did you upgrade the kernel?
[05:44] <datapolitical> ghoti, is there a way to tell it how to ignore local IPs?
[05:44] <zorba_the_greek> hello
[05:44] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: yes, i had a quick look at the list, and it included a kernel header update
[05:44] <PoetOfShadows> !hi | zorba_the_greek
[05:44] <ghoti> datapolitical: sorry?
[05:44] <datapolitical> so I can just count bytes sent and received outside my network
[05:44] <bruce89> beat me to it
[05:44] <coreyman> I want to watch a video on NBC.com in firefox, is there a silverlight alternative that i can use to watch those videos, i read nbc uses silverlight technology
[05:44] <zorba_the_greek> i am trying to use Terminal Server Client to remote desktop into my windows laptop over LAN.
[05:44] <ghoti> datapolitical: Are your LAN and WAN on different interfaces?
[05:44] <bruce89> !brain | PoetOfShadows
[05:44] <datapolitical> no
[05:45] <datapolitical> i just figured it could track traffic by IP address
[05:45] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: that is probably what caused the loss of wi-fi
[05:45] <zorba_the_greek> I have setup up my laptop to allow remote desktop but it isn't working, I can VNC from the laptop to my ubuntu computer
[05:45] <ghoti> datapolitical: I *think* you can have ntop keep track of that sort of thing
[05:45] <WebcamWonder> coreyman: Moonlight aims at a Linux port of Silverlight
[05:45] <ghoti> datapolitical: it's been a while since I've used it though
[05:45] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: any idea how i could undo that update?
[05:45] <b1n42y> bruce89, if you like playing with bots #ubuntu-bots
[05:45] <coreyman> webcamwonder thanks
[05:45] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: do you have a recent backup?
[05:46] <yigal> /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:46] <yigal> oh!!
[05:46] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: i don't know, unless ubuntu automatically backs it up, i haven't actually done any backing up manually
[05:46] <zorba_the_greek> i am trying to use Terminal Server Client to remote desktop into my windows laptop over LAN.  I have setup up my laptop to allow remote desktop but it isn't working, I can VNC from the laptop to my ubuntu computer. I can ping the address fine on my Ubuntu machine, but I just can't remote into it. Any help would be great!
[05:46] <coreyman> webcamwonder is the package name mono-smcs?
[05:47] <WebcamWonder> coreyman: I am not sure if it has been packaged, and is available ornot
[05:47] <sebsebseb> coreyman: Moonlight hummmmm Silverlight no thanks,  Flash no thanks
[05:47] <ghoti> zorba_the_greek: Does it time out or give you some specific error? What OS is the box you're trying to RDP into using?
[05:47] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: Ubuntu doesn't automatically backup; and here is the part where you start googling for ways to undo kernel updates; I'm not exactly sure how, as I've never had to
[05:47] <datapolitical> ghoti, turns out it does it automatically
[05:47] <ghoti> datapolitical: excellent news! :)
[05:47] <datapolitical> it knows from setup the difference between local and remote
[05:47] <datapolitical> yea
[05:47] <datapolitical> :)
[05:47] <datapolitical> now the question is
[05:47] <FloodBot2> datapolitical: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:48] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: ow.. yikes this i'm not looking forward to lol
[05:48] <datapolitical> now the question is, how do I get it to kill certain processes when it hits the cap
[05:48] <sebsebseb> datapolitical: killall proccessname or xkill and click on it
[05:48] <WebcamWonder> !info mono-smcs
[05:49] <zorba_the_greek> i am trying to use Terminal Server Client to remote desktop into my windows laptop over LAN.  I have setup up my laptop to allow remote desktop but it isn't working, I can VNC from the laptop to my ubuntu computer. I can ping the address fine on my Ubuntu machine, but I just can't remote into it. Any help would be great! Sorry for mentioning it again, should I shut up?
[05:49] <ghoti> datapolitical: you could set up a cron job to supress your default gateway when you reach your cap
[05:49] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: is it possible to boot into an old kernel via grub?
[05:49] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: That's why people have backups; HD prices are pretty low nowadays, so I'd suggest getting a good one to prevent this from happening again; in any case, good luck, hope you get a solution to your problem swiftly
[05:49] <ghoti> zorba_the_greek: what version of Windows?
[05:49] <datapolitical> exactly
[05:49] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: yes it is
[05:49] <bruce89> !info moonlight-plugin-mozilla
[05:49] <zorba_the_greek> ghoti, windows xp Home :(
[05:49] <bruce89> does in Jaunty
[05:49] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: didn't think of that, and ubuntu even does it automatically; that might work
[05:49] <ghoti> zorba_the_greek: XP Home doesn't support RDP outside of Remote Assistance
[05:50] <datapolitical> now the question is where does ntop store the data
[05:50] <WebcamWonder> !info jaunty moonlight-plugin-mozilla
[05:50] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: i'm not exactly an experienced user of linux and ubuntu.. so i might need some help
[05:50] <WebcamWonder> !info moonlight-plugin-mozilla jaunty
[05:50] <zorba_the_greek> ghoti ok is there a work around that you suggest?
[05:50] <coreyman> webcamwonder i found it
[05:50] <WebcamWonder> bruce89: Nice catch :)
[05:50] <ghoti> zorba_the_greek: I'd use a VNC server on the Windows box
[05:50] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: does a GRUB delay show up when you boot?
[05:50] <zorba_the_greek> ghoti to VNC into it from ubuntu?
[05:50] <zorba_the_greek> ghoti that sounds good
[05:51] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows:  yes, but only a few seconds
[05:51] <ghoti> zorba_the_greek: indeed, VNC is quite useful :)
[05:51] <SandGorgon> guys... i installed ubuntu using minimal-cd for a customized install - no games, gimp.etc. - now i want to replicate the same system on another computer. Can I create a install-cd or something ?
[05:51] <zorba_the_greek> ghoti thanks a lot, i always knew that home was worse at networking and now I know why
[05:51] <erikh> hey folks, what's the easiest way to generate a dummy ssl certificate on 8.04 LTS?
[05:51] <erikh> for apache.
[05:51] <vineeth> helooo anybody help me to do voice chat in yahoo or gmail in ubuntu
[05:52] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: hit any key during that delay, and it'll bring you to a menu; when you get to that menu, go to the 2nd entry after the latest one, and boot into that
[05:52] <bruce89> WebcamWonder: the thing is somesites are silverlight 2.0 now
[05:52] <unop> erikh, use openssl  -- there are howtos on apache.org
[05:52] <sebsebseb> vineeth: hummmmmmm  the Gmail one needs Windows it seems, and not sure about Yahoo
[05:52] <ghoti> datapolitical: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/xubuntu :)
[05:52] <erikh> unop: ugh.
[05:52] <erikh> ok. :)
[05:52] <WebcamWonder> bruce89: Yeah, I know. I don't care for it either, coreyman wanted to know :)
[05:52] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: that will bring you to an old kernel version, and Wi-fi work
[05:52] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: ok, let me have a try now
[05:52] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: go for it
[05:52] <ghoti> datapolitical:  oops, wrong URL. try http://www.ntop.org/documentation.html
[05:53] <zorba_the_greek> ghoti is RealVNC free edition the one I want?
[05:54] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: yup i think the new kernel is what killed the wifi
[05:54] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: that's one of the only problems with Linux: you never know if an update will break something
[05:54] <vineeth> any other software to do voice chat in ubuntu exept skype
[05:54] <bruce89> PoetOfShadows: that's the fun
[05:54] <ghoti> zorba_the_greek: that should work nicely.
[05:55] <Mushrooms> bruce89: that's so not fun, >.<
[05:55] <PoetOfShadows> bruce89: unless you actually need your wi-fi for work, in which case…
[05:55] <zorba_the_greek> ghoti I am stuck between that and ultraVNC or xtightvnc
[05:56] <sebsebseb> zorba_the_greek:  sroll up hummmmm,  what do you want to do, can you tell me?  so I don't have to scroll up loads
[05:56] <Dr_willis> I tend to use the vnc4server package
[05:56] <sebsebseb> lol guys
[05:56] <sebsebseb> all that is insecure I think
[05:56] <Dr_willis> any of th vnc stuff should work.
[05:56] <sebsebseb> I  tunnel  VNC nicely using SSH :)  Linux to Linux
[05:56] <Dr_willis> if you want secure.. ssh tunnle it
[05:57] <zorba_the_greek> sebsebseb I am figuring out what version of VNC I should install on my xp home laptop so I can remote into it
[05:57] <zorba_the_greek> on a lan
[05:57] <sebsebseb> and use one of those sites now if I want to see Windows
[05:57] <zorba_the_greek> not internet
[05:57] <SeaPhor> while in top, is there a kill option that will still save the curent progress?
[05:57] <stratman4300> anyone in here connect to the internet via an EVDO data card??
[05:57] <Dr_willis> zorba_the_greek,  for a windows machine. i use the 'ultravnc' server.
[05:57] <ghoti> dr_willis he's planning on a Windows VNC server; the default Ubuntu client should work with any of them, yes?
[05:57] <Dr_willis> zorba_the_greek,  it has some neat features ive not seen in others.
[05:57] <sebsebseb> zorba_the_greek: ok on the lan you don't really need encryption for VNC anyway, so  yeah  realvnc free edition will do it
[05:57] <zorba_the_greek> dr_willis ok i'll give that one a shot
[05:57] <Dr_willis> Yes. any vnc client SHOULD wiork with any vnc server
[05:57] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: hmm so i should be able to 'uninstall' the new version of the kernel right? using synaptic package manager?
[05:57] <bruce89> SeaPhor: k
[05:58] <mib_03esio> hi guys is there support for ati graphics in ubuntu??
[05:58] <ghoti> dr_willis yes, I know, operative word  'should' :)
[05:58] <sebsebseb> !ati
[05:58] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: possibly, or you might be able to mess with grub and make it auto boot into the old one…
[05:58] <ghoti> mib_03esio: depends on what you mean by 'support' exactly :)'
[05:58] <gladiator> hi. i installed ubuntu yesterday on my laptop. i hibernated it and it worked just fine. but it didnt recover back. got stuck at the loading screen which says "Ubuntu"
[05:58] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: yeah messing with grub would probably be easier, since i just have to edit the entry
[05:58] <zorba_the_greek> thanks for all the help guys
[05:58] <mib_03esio> ghoti: i have this ati crad but ubuntu cant get any modules/drivers for it
[05:58] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: but lets have a look at this header thing from synaptic first
[05:58] <sebsebseb> gladiator: yeah there's issues with stuff like that,  I think it's to do with the kernel
[05:59] <sebsebseb> gladiator: Kernel is not that good for power management still I think
[05:59] <gladiator> sebsebseb: is there a solution?
[05:59] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: you could also use SUM to have it boot into the old one… That's probably the easiest
[05:59] <sebsebseb> gladiator: maybe depending on what hardware you have exactly and so on
[05:59] <ghoti> mib_03esio: did you enable third-party and non-free sources in System->Administration->Software Sources?
[06:00] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: oh? could you please walk me through on that one?
[06:00] <stratman4300> I'm trying to share out a dail up connection with a NAT between the ppp device and the local eth0. It works fine except when the connection is redailed and a new address is assigned to the ppp device. I then have to update the route manually before any internet traffic will start flowing again. Any ways to automate this??
[06:00] <gladiator> its not really about power management. but where can i find info on this issue?
[06:00] <sebsebseb> gladiator: don't know
[06:00] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: I'm not at my Ubuntu box right now, so 'twould be kinda hard (damn GUI)
[06:00] <sebsebseb> gladiator: ubuntuforums.org  may havey our soloution though
[06:00] <gladiator> sebsebseb: thanks
[06:01] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: but SUM is pretty intuitive, I don't you'll have that much trouble…
[06:01] <sebsebseb> gladiator: yep nearly every issue been covered there some where
[06:01] <vineeth> tell me abt gtalx
[06:01] <gladiator> sebsebseb: i just googled. top results are requests to get it fixed :) so i doubt there is one
[06:01] <sebsebseb> gladiator: ok  :d
[06:01] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: oh right, well i found the kernel files in synaptic and set it to remove
[06:01] <b1n42y> !search gtalx | vineeth
[06:01] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: i'll try that first
[06:01] <sebsebseb> gladiator: what did you go google by the way?
[06:02] <jontec> problem with Toshiba Portege 3505: I don't believe wireless is functional on this laptop; I have an entry for a device in iwconfig (and I can change settings here), but no reasonable entry in lspci (-vv)... how can I definitively tell whether or not it works?
[06:02] <gladiator> ubuntu hibernate
[06:02] <sebsebseb> ok
[06:02] <SeaPhor> bruce89, ok,,, not understanding, i started an app in cli, ctrl+c is NOT ending it, it persists, but if possible i woulf like it to save what its done but end now
[06:02] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: try it, but I'm not sure that that would be the best idea…
[06:02] <Bossmanbeta> Does anyone else have a problem with Firefox locking down the sound system, so nothing else can play audio? I have to kill firefox to free up the sound resources...(Ubuntu 8.04 & Firefox 3.0.4)
[06:02] <vineeth> is it support voice chat?
[06:02] <gladiator> and results are like: "Idea #94: fix suspend and hibernate for laptops"
[06:02] <sebsebseb> Bossmanbeta: Firefox can effect my Banshee  at times it seems, but that's pretty rare
[06:02] <bruce89> SeaPhor: what is it?
[06:02] <b1n42y> suspend cancelled by VLC playing some file error, whats all that about ?
[06:02] <sebsebseb> Bossmanbeta: Ubuntu's unoffical version of Firefox, can have right stupid issues
[06:02] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: lol well i removed it, we'll see what happens after restart
[06:03] <SeaPhor> bruce89, recordmydesktop
[06:03] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: good luck!
[06:03] <vineeth> helooo anybody no software to do voice chat in ubuntu
[06:04] <Dr_willis> !info festival
[06:04] <Bossmanbeta> sebsebseb: it's rather annoying... VLC seems to be the only application that can still play audio, but Songbird (uses gstreamer), Audacious both fail as does XMMS
[06:04] <b1n42y> !search voice | vineeth
[06:04] <bruce89> !espeak
[06:04] <sebsebseb> vineeth: hummmmmmm   why do you need to do that?
[06:04] <bruce89> !info espeak
[06:04] <b1n42y> bruce89, lol espeak
[06:04] <sebsebseb> Bossmanbeta: what about Banshee  ?
[06:04] <Bossmanbeta> Anyone know how to solve the firefox-locking-sound issue? Right now, I have to kill firefox to solve it and restart it (and it will RElock the sound resource if another application does not have it)
[06:05] <vineeth> my friends are using windows and i cant talk with them as i  use ubuntu
[06:05] <Bossmanbeta> sebsebseb: I dont use banshee. Don't care for it.
[06:05] <sebsebseb> vineeth: Skype works in Ubuntu
[06:05] <bruce89> !info ekiga
[06:05] <bruce89> !info telepathy-stream-engine
[06:05] <sebsebseb> vineeth: probably a few  other voice programs out there to,  plus you can probably get stuff working in Wine, and if not a Windows virtual machine
[06:06] <tw1tch> vineeth: what are the window friends using?
[06:06] <vineeth> pls tell in detail sebsebseb
[06:06] <vineeth> ymessenger and gtalk
[06:07] <bruce89> !jabber
[06:07] <bruce89> that's cheek
[06:07] <Bossmanbeta> ..i rarely get answers in #ubuntu...I should stop trying.
[06:07] <bruce89> Pidgin is not GNOME
[06:07] <stormchas2000> i like pidgin
[06:07] <fuzeboxsoftware> I am really wanting to stick with Ubuntu, but Vista seems to run faster and smoother to me. Anyone know of a good tutorial for optimizing to its fullest?
[06:07] <sebsebseb> bruce89: Pidgin won't do voice and I think Kopete won't either
[06:07] <bruce89> Empathy does
[06:07] <PoetOfShadows> fuzeboxsoftware: Vista is faster than Ubuntu?
[06:07] <sebsebseb> vineeth: sadly no  Google Talk for Linux :(  I quite like that app myself otherwise, but I don't use for voice
[06:08] <Othor> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-setup-voice-chat-with-google-talk-user-using-empathy.html
[06:08] <sebsebseb> vineeth: there will be altneratives for things, but  you can also run Windows inside Ubuntu for Google Talk
[06:08] <bruce89> google talk is Jabber
[06:08] <sebsebseb> Othor: empathy still not tried that, it's multi protocall though?
[06:08] <vineeth> how to run windows inside ubundu
[06:08] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: how'd your restart go?
[06:08] <bruce89> which is what Empathy supports, as does Pidgin
[06:08] <sebsebseb> bruce89: it uses  Jabber  yes
[06:09] <danes_> hello, which linux distribution is the fastest to load to include on a usb with persistent changes?
[06:09] <fuzeboxsoftware> hmm...no help?
[06:09] <sebsebseb> vineeth: that should be a lost resort, these guys are giving you useful alternative  stuff
[06:09] <bruce89> vineeth: !virtual
[06:09] <bruce89> !virtual
[06:09] <jontec> any definitive way to check for wireless functionality? The card shows cell association in iwconfig, and I can run dhclient
[06:09] <PoetOfShadows> fuzeboxsoftware: did you say Vista is faster than Ubuntu?
[06:09] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: removing the packages from synaptic doesn't do anything, i have to change the grub entries too
[06:10] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: i'm trying to work out thow the edit thing works now.. but i can't make much sense of it
[06:10] <sanjud> jontec-> what do you seek?
[06:10] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: try SUM
[06:10] <sebsebseb> vineeth: you should  do native Linux software :)  and if  you need something Windows try Wine and commercail versions of that, no luck there, then do a Virtualbox virtual machine. and you  need the non OSE for USB suppourt from their site http://www.virtualbox.org
[06:10] <vineeth> i tried pidgin empathy,gnash,kopet  all are waste as voice is concerned
[06:10] <bruce89> !virtualbox
[06:11] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: ok, i'll boot into an older kernel and download that package
[06:11] <Othor> sebsebseb: not sure if it is multi protocall just happen to see that the other day on my google home page
[06:11] <stormchas2000> Vista is the reason I went to Ubuntu, I saw to many problems, and I had enough issues to say bye to Windows completely
[06:11] <jontec> sanjud: what do you mean? I am trying to get the card connected to an ad-hoc network... the settings get set for the card, but I'm not convinced that the card is installed
[06:11] <bruce89> vineeth: gnash isn't an IM client
[06:11] <sebsebseb> vineeth: and it meant free as in freedom in that thing not price, so the closed source version is also free as in price
[06:11] <bruce89> Othor: it is
[06:12] <cherubael> anyone out there playing around with XFCE 4.6
[06:12] <sebsebseb> vineeth: ok how much RAM do you have?
[06:12] <PoetOfShadows> cherubael: me
[06:12] <sebsebseb> cherubael: nope not yet
[06:12] <sebsebseb> does  Jaunty Jakealope provide  XFCE 4.6 in repo?
[06:12] <bruce89> !info xfce jaunty
[06:12] <cherubael> you had any issues with function keys not working
[06:12] <bruce89> !info xfwm jaunty
[06:12] <vineeth> igb
[06:12] <bruce89> !info xfwm4 jaunty
[06:13] <stormchas2000> I have a laptop that was hit by lightening, so it isn't running to good, but I put Puppy linux on it and it runs alomost as good as new
[06:13] <sebsebseb> yep  I wlll upgrade to the beta :)
[06:13] <sebsebseb> beta is soon
[06:13] <sanjud> jontec-> settings get set but you are not convinced the card is installed?
[06:13] <bruce89> not that the label means anything
[06:13] <sebsebseb> stormchas2000: ok nice story, but nothing to do with Ubuntu support
[06:13] <bruce89> !ot
[06:14] <stormchas2000> sorry
[06:14] <bruce89> no need to be, I just like bots
[06:14] <sebsebseb> stormchas2000: which distro did it have on it before?  and yeah puppy seems nice, but I only had  limited trying in a vm
[06:14] <PoetOfShadows> he really does
[06:14] <sebsebseb> !bot |  bruce89
[06:14] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: "startupmanager" grub and splash screen configuration  <- this one sound right to you?
[06:14] <gladiator> is hibernate / suspend related to compiz?
[06:14] <sebsebseb> maybe
[06:15] <sebsebseb> to some extent
[06:15] <jontec> sanjud: should I be convinced? I am not convinced because I don't remember installing it and I can't see an entry for the card in lspci... there's only an ethernet card listed (unless they are coupled). This is on kubuntu 8.10
[06:15] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: yep, that sounds like the one
[06:15] <stormchas2000> it had ubuntu but it ran slow due to the processor damage
[06:15] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: ok, giving that a shot now
[06:15] <SeaPhor> gladiator, yes it is
[06:15] <sebsebseb> stormchas2000: ok well  with the correct distro Linux breathes life into old hardware, but by the sounds of it does into screwed up hardware as well, but one  day your lap top might screw up properly if using damaged processor
[06:15] <gladiator> SeaPhor: so it can potentially fix the hibernate issue if i disable it?
[06:15] <stormchas2000> i run ubuntu on everything else
[06:16] <SeaPhor> gladiator, possibly, let me guess.. ati?
[06:16] <stormchas2000> when it finally dies i will replace the whole thing,
[06:17] <sanjud> jontec-> can you post the results of iwconfig; ifconfig;  route -n; cat /etc/network/interfaces  ?
[06:17] <sebsebseb> stormchas2000: ok
[06:17] <gladiator> SeaPhor: graphic card? NVdia
[06:17] <sebsebseb> stormchas2000: how did your lap top get struck by lightning anyway?
[06:17] <risingfish> is this where I can get help with sound/mic issue
[06:17] <sebsebseb> !sound
[06:17] <SeaPhor> gladiator, either way,,, yes
[06:17] <sebsebseb> !mic
[06:17] <stratman4300> Hello all, I'm dialing out to the internet using a CDMA wireless card which obtains a new ip address with every connection. It works fine except everytime it connects i have to update the route manually before any traffic will pass. Any thoughts on automating this??
[06:17] <risingfish> ?
[06:17] <risingfish> microphone
[06:18] <stormchas2000> my house down in florida was hit knocked out everything, I had to replace a TV, and Two computers
[06:18] <jontec> sanjud: yes, I will pastebin... one sec
[06:18] <Jordan_U> stratman4300: You have to update the default gateway?
[06:18] <sebsebseb> stormchas2000: heh I see
[06:19] <risingfish> you know.. sometimes people make bots sound a little to human like... :)
[06:19] <stratman4300> jordan_u: Correct...  everytime i reconnect the modem obtains a new address.....  and no traffic flows until I run route add default gw (new address here)
[06:19] <SeaPhor> gladiator, i am a linux tester for HP, and all of the power-management tests have to be done twice- once with compiz enabled, and again with disabled
[06:19] <Jordan_U> stratman4300: Are you connecting via network-manager? It's odd that the connection gets an ip address from DHCP ( I assume ) but not the default gateway
[06:20] <ExistentialTech> SeaPhor: I want your job
[06:20] <gladiator> SeaPhor: you are? i have an HP!
[06:20] <SeaPhor> ExistentialTech, trust me,,, no you dont...lol
[06:20] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: very nice, just reconfigured, and rebooting now
[06:21] <ExistentialTech> SeaPhor, suppose it sounds better written down?
[06:21] <gladiator> SeaPhor: so that means that its not a compiz issue?
[06:21] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: hope that this one works
[06:21] <stratman4300> jordan_u yes i'm using the network-manager...  it also works after a reconnect if i disconnect my local network cable...  it's like the gateway on the local eth0 needs to be updated everytime a new ppp connection is made
[06:21] <risingfish> SeaPhor: I have a pavilion dv 9500t. out of curiosity, when testing my sound capture device, do you knwo what hise means? gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Could not open audio device for recording.
[06:22] <tcm> hello
[06:22] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: yeah it's awesome, i see my wifi card's lights light up now, seems to work.
[06:22] <Jordan_U> stratman4300: How are you determining what to enter as the default gateway?
[06:22] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: that's great
[06:22] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: glad I could be of service
[06:22] <jontec> sanjud: http://pastie.org/410706
[06:22] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: thanks for your help, i guess, i'll skip the next kernel update until .24
[06:22] <SeaPhor> gladiator, it is and it isnt,,, right now the graphix card ppl are trying to come up with a way to support it but because windoz cant do it yet they are behind
[06:22] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: unless you wanna have to do this again, I'd do that too
[06:23] <Jordan_U> stratman4300: Ahh, that makes sense as you can only have one default gateway so if you are getting dhcp from multiple sources I see how it could cause problems
[06:23] <stratman4300> Jordan_U I'm entering the IP that the ppp device obtains when it connects. It's issued a new address by the ISP with every reconnect
[06:23] <tcm> 试试
[06:23] <bruce89> !utf | tcm
[06:23] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: hehe, i haven't lost faith in linux _yet_ even though there has been ups and downs
[06:24] <sanjud> jontec-> it looks good
[06:24] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: trust me, I know how you feel
[06:24] <gladiator> windows cant do what? and i dont know much about this stuff but isnt hibernate related more to saving the state of your processes and all on to disk? how is it so dependent on the graphics card?
[06:24] <stratman4300> jordan_U: the local eth0 connection is static....   i need to share this connection out to multiple pcs so it has to be static
[06:24] <wookienz> i have mounted a remote share as root in the fstab file. I wan tot give access to a normal user on the system access to the folder. Presently i am getting permission denied to view the folder as this suer. Do i need to mount it as someone else so that normal users can see the contents?
[06:24] <tcm> i am the first time to  come here
[06:25] <jontec> sanjud: so it's not the card, then? It was installed/setup/configured out of the box?
[06:25] <gladiator> SearPhor: Also, i am reading comments on ubuntuforums and apparently it works like a charm on fedora core 9 :S
[06:25] <SeaPhor> risingfish, that is not hp- specific- that is in whatever your set (default) device drivers output for faults
[06:25] <Jordan_U> stratman4300: If it's sharing to other computers and it's static then you don't have a default gateway related to your eth0 connection, correct?
[06:26] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows: thanks again for your help, im going to get back to work now
[06:26] <sanjud> jontec-> well per what you post, it indicates thats it is there.. can you also post the  sudo lshw -C network  results?
[06:26] <PoetOfShadows> Mushrooms: no problem, it's like 1:30 where I live; gotta get to bed
[06:26] <bruce89> 6:30 here
[06:26] <Mushrooms> PoetOfShadows:  lol ok, cya good night
[06:26] <PoetOfShadows> gnight
[06:26] <stratman4300> Jordan_U on the eth0 connection i pointed the PC at itself...  as this machine is going to basically be a glorified router....  should i leave that blank??
[06:26] <sebsebseb> bruce89: oh your from UK as well
[06:27] <bruce89> sebsebseb: no, Scotland
[06:27] <stratman4300> jordan_u: would it then use the gateway obtained by the Dail up connection??
[06:27] <sebsebseb> bruce89: yes which is a part of UK
[06:27] <bruce89> that was an attempt at humour
[06:27] <sebsebseb> bruce89: so like me haven't gone to bed yet?  :d
[06:27] <bruce89> nope
[06:27] <unperson> Hi.  I want to dual boot with Ubuntu and Windows XP.  How large a partition do I need for Windows XP, characteristically?
[06:27] <SeaPhor> sebastien,  (not to some scotts)
[06:27] <Jordan_U> stratman4300: Yes, there should be no default gateway assigned related to eth0 and I think removing the static default gateway should solve the problem
[06:27] <sebsebseb> unperson: depends what your going to use XP for
[06:28] <stratman4300> Jordan_U: k i have to disconnect to test but i'[ll be back. Thanks
[06:28] <dayo> !rsync > dayo
[06:28] <sebsebseb> SeaPhor: maybe so, but like it or not they are part of UK
[06:28] <sanjud> dayo->  why not man rsync
[06:29] <sebsebseb> SeaPhor: ,but yeah they have their own goverment ot
[06:29] <sebsebseb> to
[06:29] <dayo> sanjud: yeah
[06:29] <bruce89> for now
[06:29] <jontec> sanjud: updated at http://pastie.org/410706
[06:29] <unperson> sebsebseb, Clearly, but I'm not looking for an exact figure here, just a ball park.  If I want to run XP, have a couple of games and maybe office installed, what is the ballpark of space required?
[06:29] <SeaPhor> sebastien,  hey back off, I'm from Texas, lol
[06:29] <sebsebseb> unperson: most of Office 2003 and 2007  runs well under Wine
[06:30] <sebsebseb> unperson: plus Ubuntu can have, Open Office, KOffice,  Abiword :),  and Gnumeric
[06:30] <unperson> sebsebseb, My experience is that it's crashes with reasonable regularity.
[06:30] <SeaPhor> unperson, 6g min
[06:30] <Until_It_Sleeps> How do I make my joystick work in Ubuntu?
[06:30] <risingfish> Thanks seaphor. is it better to specify the output device as acl268 (alsa) ubstead if "ALSA - adavanced linus soud architecture">
[06:30] <sanjud> jontec-> yeah it looked good, line 30 confirms your driver is loaded
[06:30] <sebsebseb> unperson: how about running XP in a vm  inside Ubuntu?
[06:31] <SeaPhor> unperson, that allows for updates and docs
[06:31] <sebsebseb> unperson: maybe with a dual boot as well depending on your games
[06:31] <stormchas2000> Unperson,  I made a mistake and didn't give windows enough partition   so I found that i just live with it and so far everything I needed was here except a few windows only apps.
[06:31] <unperson> sebsebseb, The others are fine programs (probably my preference) but sometimes you have to jointly edit stuff in MS formats and conversion issues are too much.
[06:31] <sebsebseb> unperson: I see ok
[06:31] <stormchas2000> so I guess figure out what is only used on windows and then select the size you need for those apps
[06:32] <sebsebseb> unperson: well you can have XP inside Ubuntu and do MS Office there
[06:32] <jontec> sanjud: alright, thanks very much :D I'm quite surprised.
[06:32] <unperson> SeaPhor, Okay.  That seems commensurate with numbers I see people using in examples on the web.
[06:32] <SeaPhor> risingfish, no, go with OSS
[06:32] <sebsebseb> unperson: or give it another try with the latest wine, get that by adding the repo from http://www.winehq.org
[06:33] <gladiator> quick question. could it be possible that my hibernate is not working because my ram size is more than my swap space?
[06:33] <unperson> stormchas2000, Live with "it" being Linux?
[06:33] <SeaPhor> unperson, if you're looking at a dual boot tho...
[06:34] <Datz1> Hello, can I use Ubuntu 64bit wubi on windows vista?
[06:34] <sebsebseb> unperson: and the virtual machine software I would recommend is  Virtualbox, and you need the non OSE,  the binary from their site for USB suppourt  http://www.virtualbox.org
[06:34] <sebsebseb> Datz1: Wubi hummmmmm
[06:34] <SeaPhor> unperson, go with min 15 gb, just so you can swap some stuff
[06:34] <sebsebseb> Datz1: you should partition your hard disk :)
[06:35] <Datz1> sebsebseb: But I don't wanna
[06:35] <Datz1> :)
[06:35] <stormchas2000> unperson, whell I decided to find out exactly what Ubuntu could do so I stayed in forums like this a learned, so that I didnt have to use windows anymore   so I choose to live with it meaning i didnt go back and change
[06:35] <Datz1> Also I don't see a 64 bit torrent.  Is there one?
[06:35] <unperson> sebsebseb, I had actually been using crossover, which should perform better than even the latest wine, I think.  But in any case, the reason is sort of the combo of games and the ability to run office occasionally.  I've been trying games under crossover, but some seem to run too slow and many aren't supported at all.
[06:35] <sebsebseb> Datz1: setting up a dual boot is not that difficult, and having  Ubuntu inside the Windows partition is not a very good idea,  for obvious reasons, think about it what happens if Windows screws up properly,  well then Ubuntu does as well
[06:35] <stratman4300> Jordan_U: that appears to have fixed the issue...  i reconnected 3 times....  got 3 different addresses and i didn't have to update the default gw once :)
[06:35] <SeaPhor> unperson, unless you're needing bare minimums, ten 10g
[06:35] <stratman4300> Jordan_U: thanks i appreciate the help :D
[06:36] <unperson> SeaPhor, Thanks for the advice.  That's very helpful.
[06:36] <Jordan_U> stratman4300: np :)
[06:36] <sebsebseb> unperson: well how about  Windows on a dual boot for games, but also in a vm for Office?
[06:36] <Datz1> sebsebseb: I have dual boot set up on my other machine, I kinda want wubi on my laptop.
[06:36] <unperson> SeaPhor, Honestly, the last time I ran windows was Win2000, so I don't know what to expect from XP.
[06:36] <sebsebseb> Datz1: well quite a lot of people woudn't recommend it :)  not just me
[06:36] <sebsebseb> Datz1: ,but wubi will probably be ok,  unless  your Vista buggers up properly and then so does Ubuntu
[06:37] <Datz1> I just want to know if there is a problem installing a 64bit wubi on a 32 vista system
[06:37] <Until_It_Sleeps> !help joystick
[06:37] <sebsebseb> Datz1: probably no problem at all
[06:37] <Until_It_Sleeps> erm...
[06:37] <Until_It_Sleeps> !joystick
[06:37] <WebcamWonder> Datz1: Shouldn't be
[06:37] <sebsebseb> Datz1: wubi has a 64bit version????//
[06:37] <Datz1> sebsebseb: I don't know.
[06:37] <unperson> stormchas2000, This will actually be the first time I'll be using Windows on one of my computers in years.
[06:37] <Datz1> partially why I came here.  :)
[06:37] <SeaPhor> unperson, this is way off topic for channel, if you want OT go to #ubuntu-ot or my channel, #seaphor
[06:37] <WebcamWonder> sebsebseb: Yeah, it does
[06:37] <someABC> hello, where could I find some java projects to volunteer with
[06:38] <Until_It_Sleeps> Datz1: Do you have a 64 bit CPU installed?
[06:38] <sebsebseb> !ot  | someABC
[06:38] <Datz1> Until_It_Sleeps: Yes
[06:38] <sanjud> someABC-> bleeding edge? join apache cocoon2 projects
[06:38] <Datz1> CPU = T7200 ;)
[06:38] <unperson> SeaPhor, That's cool.  All I wanted was info about the partitioning for dual booting, which seemed to be on topic too me.
[06:38] <C0nn0R_> .window 1
[06:38] <C0nn0R_> sorry
[06:38] <sebsebseb> unperson: why wubi on  lap top?
[06:39] <Datz1> thats what I am going after too.
[06:39] <gladiator> how do i disable compiz?
[06:39] <someABC> sanjud -> thank you
[06:39] <stormchas2000> unperson, oh ok, well i can say this for me I should have left 10 to 15 gigs, in order to use windows properly, so you will need enough to load the programs and windows plus an addtional 10 to 15 gigs min.
[06:39] <WebcamWonder> gladiator: System -> Prefs -> Apperence -> Visual Effects -> None
[06:39] <FlareDS> gladiator: run metacity --replace
[06:40] <sebsebseb> stormchas2000: yeah that sounds about right at least 10GB  for XP
[06:40] <unperson> stormchas2000, Thanks for your input.
[06:40] <sebsebseb> unperson: yep what I just said
[06:40] <gladiator> thanks WebcamWonder, FlareDS
[06:40] <SeaPhor> gladiator, go to system>Pref...>appearance
[06:40] <FlareDS> gakkun: np
[06:41] <FlareDS> oops
[06:41] <stormchas2000> I am not a tech and I am still new,  what i said was only what would have worked for me.
[06:41] <FlareDS> gladiator: np
[06:41] <risingfish> seaphor: i'm getting sound on the output tests now using oss but i am still unable to record. i did install ubuntu after downloading it. does hp offer any spcific drivers for this?
[06:41] <sebsebseb> SeaPhor: someone beat you to it, and I was going to type it, but I saw that person already beated me to it
[06:41] <unperson> One last question about dual booting.  If the NTFS support good enough at this point that I can just read and write to an NTFS partiton (without needing a FAT32 partition to share data)?
[06:42] <sebsebseb> unperson: yep it is
[06:42] <WebcamWonder> unperson: Yup
[06:42] <Dr_willis> unperson,  has been for some time'
[06:42] <FlareDS> unperson: yeap
[06:42] <unperson> Great.
[06:42] <SeaPhor> sebsebseb, yeah, i type slow, lol
[06:42] <risingfish> seaphor: ie not preinstalloed. i dont knoe if hp offers that optiojn
[06:42] <Othor> unperson: if you are wanting to play new games i would say to use more then 10-15gb some of the games coming out now user upwards to 8gb by them selfs
[06:42] <unperson> Dr_willis, Well, it's been some time since I needed to worry about writing to a windows partition (probably >4 years).
[06:43] <sebsebseb> SeaPhor: I was looking at menu for some reason, even though  I known where that setting is since uhmmmmm let's see.   well  ages ago heh.  I been with Ubuntu since second release.  Fedora Core 2 and 4 before that
[06:43] <mibty> Could anyone let me know if there is away to include scim input engines that is not put in default scim IMEngine path to work with scim so that no root privilege is required? Thanks in advance.
[06:43] <unperson> Othor, Good to know.  I suppose it would be prudent for me to check out the sizes of some games.
[06:43] <FlareDS> sebsebseb: I've been with since dapper
[06:44] <Othor> unperson: np
[06:44] <gladiator> I disabled compiz and tried hibernation. it appears to be working fine. its disappointing though :(
[06:44] <sebsebseb> unperson: Linux has good native games as well.  in fact go to google and put in 42 of the best linux games
[06:44] <reduxify> hello :)
[06:44] <FlareDS> with it*
[06:44] <sebsebseb> unperson: linuxlinks.com or whatever the site was, did quite a few gaming articles 42 of the best wine games etc
[06:44] <wanttotryubuntu> hello
[06:44] <FlareDS> !hi | reduxify
[06:44] <wanttotryubuntu> i am very new
[06:44] <unperson> Dr_willis, Whenever it was I last had to worry about it, reading from NTFS worked by writing either didn't exist at all or was considered unreliable, I think.
[06:44] <sebsebseb> FlareDS: did you use any distro before that?
[06:44] <FlareDS> !ntfs | unperson
[06:45] <wanttotryubuntu> i got a cd from friend .. he says its legal to do it .. is it legal to do it ?
[06:45] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: ok what do you want help with?
[06:45] <mibty> or Could anyone confirm that the paths in scim is hardcoded so that there is no possibilty using custom input methods without having root privilege?
[06:45] <FlareDS> sebsebseb: nope
[06:45] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: lol :d :)   yep  100%  free as in price, but also  freedom,  you can learn about that later
[06:45] <reduxify> i have an old ibm 8305 pc that i put xubuntu on.  i get the following error at boot time: MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC
[06:45] <SeaPhor> risingfish, i am not a dev at hp, only a tester, and only know what i test, i'm not privy to much else, so not sure what drivers you are referring to
[06:45] <FlareDS> it was my first linux that i had ever messed with
[06:45] <Datz1> I can't find md5 checksum hash for 8.10 to check my iso download.  Are they posted somewhere?
[06:45] <wanttotryubuntu> sebsebseb i am having a problem with it .. it works well at my friends place but it shows me different linux
[06:45] <reduxify> now, i can put noapic in the boot line and it works fine, but i'm wondering if i'm disabling something important, since i don't really know what apic is :p
[06:46] <WebcamWonder> !checksum
[06:46] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: differnet Linux?????
[06:46] <mibty> it appears that there is a .scim folder in $HOME but replicated scim folders in that directory does not seem to help at all  . . .
[06:46] <WebcamWonder> Datz1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[06:46] <unperson> sebsebseb, Thanks.  In this case it's games I have in hand (gifts and much older stuff that isn't supported on wine AFAIK).  But yeah, there are some good Linux games.  I like wesnoth, for example.
[06:46] <Datz1> WebcamWonder: THanks
[06:46] <WebcamWonder> Datz1: np
[06:46] <sebsebseb> unperson: yeah some good 3D Linux games as well
[06:47] <FlareDS> !md5 | Datz1
[06:47] <wanttotryubuntu> sebsebseb .. yes .. it shows choose language --> english ---> try ubuntu without installing it [Live CD session] .. i click that ---> at my friend's house it shows nice windows like operating system .. but at my house it shows me black BusyBox linux, not ubuntu :(
[06:47] <risingfish> k, no worries. :) I'll keep looking. Thank you for humoring me.
[06:47] <sebsebseb> unperson: as for wine you can get a lot of stuff working if you configure stuff,  http://www.appdb.winehq.org
[06:47] <SeaPhor> unperson, sauerbraten is in the repos ;-)
[06:47] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: I see ok,  how much RAM does your computer have?
[06:47] <FlareDS> !wine | unperson
[06:48] <wanttotryubuntu> 2 gb
[06:48] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: hummmmmm odd
[06:48] <SeaPhor> unperson, sauerbraten is in the repos ;-) and sebsebseb
[06:49] <wanttotryubuntu> sebsebseb, i am a financial advisor, so this is a very latest machine .. fully uptodate with Intel quadcore duo extreme processor, original intel DP45SG motherboard, 9800 Gforce gfx card etc etc
[06:49] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: heh Windows like operating system :D   oh  there's more Windows like distros and such.  ,but anyway uhmmmmm busybox hummmm
[06:49] <wanttotryubuntu> sebsebseb ... ?
[06:49] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: weird issue,  you should be able to get the live session
[06:50] <FlareDS> Winblows*
[06:50] <reduxify> i've seen the busybox problem before
[06:50] <wanttotryubuntu> sebsebseb .. i have one sata 2 hard drive of 500 gb  and one DVD writer .. again sata connect .. dont know if its sata 1 or 2
[06:50] <blackbyte> or mioo ?
[06:50] <stormchas2000> maybe there is something wrong with the live cd he has
[06:50] <reduxify> it can happen if ubuntu tries to mount a software raid array, for example
[06:50] <reduxify> there's a few others things too
[06:51] <wanttotryubuntu> ok, the friends cd did not work, so i downloaded this --->   same issue .. i could not find one for intel though
[06:51] <wanttotryubuntu> getting filename brb
[06:51] <wanttotryubuntu> ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso    <--- may be its only for AMD ? i could not find download for intel
[06:51] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: ok get the correct CD and md5sum the ISO before burning as well
[06:52] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: you sure you got 64bit?
[06:52] <FlareDS> intel = i386
[06:52] <FlareDS> not AMD
[06:52] <wanttotryubuntu> mine is a 64 bit processor
[06:52] <sebsebseb> FlareDS: right, but theres 64bit  Intel as well, and the Ubuntu  ISO just calls it all AMD
[06:52] <wanttotryubuntu> this one gives the same busy box too .. brb getting file name
[06:52] <FlareDS> the use the AMD64 one
[06:52] <unperson> sebsebseb, All Core 2 procs are 64-bit
[06:53] <FlareDS> sebsebseb: I know this hehe
[06:53] <wanttotryubuntu> ubuntu-8.04.2-desktop-i386.iso   <--- this one is the CD that friend gave me, it has no problems, it works perfectly at his home
[06:53] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: ok that's the previous version
[06:53] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: have you tried 8.10 yet?
[06:53] <unperson> wanttotryubuntu, AMD64 is just the name they use for the 64-bit x86 instructions.  It includes Core 2 chips.
[06:53] <wanttotryubuntu> so why does ubuntu call it AMD only ? its confusing for new people with intel processors
[06:53] <ExistentialTech> Its a legacy name not an Ubuntu thing
[06:54] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: ,becaus AMD  made 64bit first
[06:54] <wanttotryubuntu> anyways, getting back to the problem , i dont want buysbox linux
[06:54] <Dr_willis> the name AMD was decided ages ago,. :)
[06:54] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: yes have you treid 8.10?
[06:54] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: your friend has 8.04 the previous version
[06:54] <movizdb> irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu-fr
[06:54] <reduxify> hold on
[06:54] <unperson> wanttotryubuntu, AMD were the first ones to make a 64-bit extension to x86, IIRC, so everyone used to call it that.  Now some people use the term x86_64
[06:54] <wanttotryubuntu> yes, these both versions above do not show me ubuntu .. they show me busybox
[06:54] <Datz1> huh, so if I get AMD64 bit it will work with i386 cpu?
[06:54] <FlareDS> !fr | movizdb
[06:55] <reduxify> wanttotryubuntu: what kind of processor is in your machine?
[06:55] <Dr_willis> wanttotryubuntu,  so for some reason they are crashuing on your machine.
[06:55] <FlareDS> crashing*
[06:55]  * FlareDS is a perfectionist
[06:55] <Dr_willis> Pefrudunctist
[06:55] <wanttotryubuntu> Intel(R)core2quad CPU
[06:55] <Dr_willis> get it right
[06:55] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: other good Linux distros you can try,  if Ubuntu causes to much problems on your machine
[06:55] <FlareDS> sorry :)
[06:55] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:55] <reduxify> no wonder.
[06:56] <reduxify> he's getting dumped to busybox because of the quad core extension crap.  try the 32-bit version.
[06:56] <Dr_willis> some machines are just quirky.
[06:56] <wanttotryubuntu> Q6600 @ 2.40 gh
[06:56] <unperson> wanttotryubuntu, Busybox is an environment that's used during the boot process of ubuntu.  If your install is screwed up somehow and the boot doesn't complete properly, sometimes you get spit out in the busybox environment.
[06:56] <FlareDS> Dr_willis: :P
[06:56] <unperson> wanttotryubuntu, But that doesn't mean you got "the wrong linux" or anything.
[06:57] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: you  can try the 32bit version or another Linux distro in 64bit
[06:57] <wanttotryubuntu> ok, i still have a few questions .. my friend's pc is EXACTLY same there is not a single hardware difference
[06:57] <FlareDS> brb
[06:57] <das__> ce_imoet
[06:57] <wanttotryubuntu> then why it works at his place ?
[06:57]  * SeaPhor thinks wanttotryubuntu is a Mr-Sloppy troll, (busybox=deadgiveaway)
[06:58] <sebsebseb> SeaPhor: why?
[06:58] <wanttotryubuntu> seaphor i did not get you but i know what a webtroll is, i do read forums and blogs a lot [ i am related to financial advising and forex treading ]
[06:58] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: where are you from? India or some where like that?
[06:58] <wanttotryubuntu> yes i am from india seb
[06:58]  * FlareDS laughs
[06:59] <sebsebseb> FlareDS: there was a guy just now from India in fact
[06:59] <sebsebseb> FlareDS: seems some Indians are coming here
[06:59] <wanttotryubuntu> are we not welcomed here ?
[06:59] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: of course you are
[06:59] <wanttotryubuntu> thank you
[06:59] <wrektjet> no of course u r he didnt mean it like that
[06:59] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: there's also a channel in your language
[06:59] <FlareDS> no, its just a joke about microsoft
[06:59] <sebsebseb> !in
[07:00] <Brando753> hey im trying to connect to my deskyop (windows) to print help it set for sharing but dosent appear in the SMB browse
[07:00] <wanttotryubuntu> right but i have no trouble speaking/ understanding english
[07:00] <sebsebseb> ok
[07:00] <sebsebseb> ubuntuforums.org
[07:00] <sebsebseb> that may be able to help as well
[07:00] <wanttotryubuntu> well, with that settled, me and my friend we both bought our pcs exactly the same, then how is that i386 cd boots well at his pc ?
[07:01]  * SeaPhor apologizes to wanttotryubuntu , was actually commenting on the terminology and now has wasted everyone's time
[07:01] <Dr_willis> Brando753,  ive had a lot of issues with the gnome 'share' briowsing features.. I always seem to end up typing in the proper share path,  then it pops up a dialog for the user/password.. THEN i book mark it once it does get to the share.
[07:01] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: you can also try another Linux distro,  seems you want Windows like well  Mandriva maybe then
[07:01] <wanttotryubuntu> no need to apologize seaphor, it was just a misunderstanding =)
[07:01] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: and their channel is #mandriva
[07:01] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: however Ubuntu is a great distro when it works
[07:01] <FlareDS> wanttotryubuntu: Have ever heard the joke about Microsoft's support being in India?
[07:01] <Flannel> FlareDS: Please keep it on topic.
[07:02] <sanskumar> join #php
[07:02] <wanttotryubuntu> FlareDS many BPOs and call centers are actually having multiple hubs in india
[07:02] <wanttotryubuntu> yes i would like that too .. thanks Flannel
[07:02] <FlareDS> Flannel: I know
[07:02]  * FlareDS hides
[07:02] <sebsebseb> wanttotryubuntu: yes and that's what the joke is about,  the Microsoft joke
[07:02] <Flannel> wanttotryubuntu: How about you try and fix his issues instead of being dumb about it?
[07:02] <Flannel> er, sebsebseb ^^
[07:03] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:03] <wanttotryubuntu> sebsebseb so how is exactly is that i386 cd works at his place and not mine ?
[07:03] <sebsebseb> Flannel: I don't know why he is getting those issues, or I would help
[07:03] <Flannel> wanttotryubuntu: Have you tried from the same CDs? or are they different?  Could it be a burn issue?
[07:03] <Flannel> sebsebseb: If you can't help someone, that doesn't give you permission to antagonize them.
[07:03] <reduxify> true, is it the same CD or did you burn a copy?
[07:03] <Fahmy> hey guys
[07:03] <Fahmy> bruce89
[07:03] <sebsebseb> Flannel: I didn't make the Microsoft joke
[07:03] <FlareDS> Sorry
[07:04] <FlareDS> Won't happen again
[07:04] <wanttotryubuntu> ok this is what all i have done --> i386 cd friends home it worked .. mine it didnt .. so downloaded fresh i386 from web .. burnt it properly [ red instructions didnt burn iso as file, burnt it as a proper bootable image ] .. booted .. busybox
[07:04] <FlareDS> hmm
[07:04] <sebsebseb> FlareDS: don't worry about it :)   ,but be careful of Flannel he is an op and might kick you :d
[07:04] <Flannel> wanttotryubuntu: Have you tried the "check CD for defects" option on the boot menu?
[07:05] <wanttotryubuntu> yes, it shows ubuntu loading screen for some time and then goes to busybox again
[07:05] <FlareDS> sebsebseb: oh i know I'm a op helper so yeah
[07:05] <wrektjet> id like to ask advice... im gonna be putting together a computer later on today and installing ubuntu (i hope-fingers crossed)
[07:05] <wanttotryubuntu> again this happens with BOTH i386 and AMD 64 cds , plus i was careful to burn these 2 at 16x speed no more
[07:05] <wanttotryubuntu> and i used CDs not DVDs
[07:05] <Flannel> wanttotryubuntu: Alright, so that means it could be a burn issue.  Try re-burning, at a slower speed.  We recommend 4x or so, if you can do it.
[07:05] <FlareDS> wanttotryubuntu: same configuration as your friends?
[07:05] <Flannel> wanttotryubuntu: Can you try the same CD that worked on your friends computer?
[07:05] <wrektjet> is there any issue about installing windows second versus ubuntu second
[07:05] <Fahmy> any1 while isntalling ubunto i got stuck att "who r u" step 5 of 7, the keyboard is not working. although i can move the mouse arrow. can u help me out ?
[07:05] <wanttotryubuntu> FlareDS  EXACTLY 100% same confing .. not a SINGLE change
[07:06] <Flannel> wrektjet: That's actualy the easier way to do it.
[07:06] <FlareDS> hmmm very weird
[07:06] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: it will go over Grub, but you can put that back on
[07:06] <sebsebseb> !grub
[07:06] <Flannel> wrektjet: er, Ubuntu second is easier.  Windows second means you have to do some extra steps
[07:06] <wrektjet> flannel: i read about grub
[07:06] <Fahmy> plz help me in that [07:06] <wanttotryubuntu> if you want me to collect and post some data or information about my system / hardware, and if u tell me, i think i will be able to do it
[07:07] <FlareDS> I'll brb
[07:07] <Flannel> wanttotryubuntu: Unfortunately, just because you bought identical computers (same model, etc) doesn't mean theyre the same hardware.  But we likely won't need your hardware specs.
[07:07] <stormchas2000> fahmy what kind of keyboard do you have
[07:07] <wrektjet> flannel: so windows first is actually easier, but not the end of the world if i do it the other way around (ubuntu first)
[07:07] <Fahmy> stormchas2000 i am using compac nx7000 laptop
[07:07] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: yep exactly
[07:08] <Flannel> wrektjet: right.
[07:08] <wrektjet> flannel: as i dont actually own a copy of windows at the moment
[07:08] <wrektjet> :)
[07:08] <FlareDS> I'm back
[07:08] <Flannel> wrektjet: Yeah, you just install windows, then reinstall grub to your MBR, then add the windows entry in your boot menu.
[07:09] <stormchas2000> um fahmy you might try using a serial keyboard,, I know that sometimes a usb will act up when installing,   I dont know about laptop keyboards
[07:09] <Fahmy> ok
[07:09] <Flannel> wanttotryubuntu: One thing you may try is installing from the Alternate CD instead of the Desktop CD.
[07:09] <wrektjet> flannel, sebseb: thanks for the advice. ill be back in like 20 hours or so, hopefully on my new computer!(flannel: that doesnt sound like too much trouble. when the time comes...)
[07:10] <wanttotryubuntu> ok will try that but now i am curious to why this is happening
[07:10] <wanttotryubuntu> [ btw i called my hardware guy but he said its a virus and i will have to format my hard drive, but i KNOW that he has no idea what ubuntu is ]
[07:11] <FlareDS> wanttotryubuntu: Same thing happened to me
[07:11] <wanttotryubuntu> if i am booting from live cd, and even though there is a virus on hard drive, linux cant or shouldnt be hurt by it i suppose? [ though i have latest panda antivirus and there is no virus on my system ]
[07:11] <Don_Miguel> wanttotryubuntu, you need a new hardware gu !
[07:11] <Fahmy> hey guys
[07:11] <Flannel> wanttotryubuntu: No, a window virus can't affect a CD you boot from.
[07:11] <pibe86> hello, i have installed skype and my is not working, any link?
[07:11] <Fahmy> which keyboard should i install for the laptops ???
[07:12] <wanttotryubuntu> ok, so how do i get out of the black box ?
[07:12] <wanttotryubuntu> busybox*
[07:12] <FlareDS> wanttotryubuntu: That is correct
[07:12] <Flannel> wanttotryubuntu: Just reboot, and pull the CD out
[07:12] <fuzeboxsoftware> anyone able to tell me why ubuntu is soooo sluggish than my vista?
[07:13] <wanttotryubuntu> Flannel i tried it multiple times, but still it keeps going to busybox .. i want to install it today so that i can get used to the system this week end and start trading again on monday
[07:13] <Flannel> wanttotryubuntu: Take the CD out, and reboot (to Windows), it'll boot to windows, you can grab the alternate CD and burn it, and then boot to that.
[07:13] <wanttotryubuntu> thankcs flannel
[07:14] <fuzeboxsoftware> any tips for speeding up ubuntu?
[07:14] <Fahmy> which keyboard should i install for the laptop ???
[07:14] <Fahmy> plz help me
[07:14] <fuzeboxsoftware> dual core 2 gig ram system, 9500 GT vid card
[07:14] <fuzeboxsoftware> slow crap, vista is putting ubuntu to shame :(\
[07:14] <sajish> hi
[07:15] <Fahmy> hey guys
[07:15] <Fahmy> cannt u see me >?
[07:15] <Fahmy> which keyboard should i install for the laptop ???
[07:15] <Flannel> !repeat | Fahmy
[07:15] <sajish> how do i restore vist boot loader
[07:15] <Fahmy> !patience
[07:15] <Fahmy> ok
[07:15] <wanttotryubuntu> okies, which alternate cd to choose ?
[07:16] <mudit> i need to look what application is using a specific port ?, how to do it ?
[07:16] <Fahmy> Flannel if u give me hand, i will be thamnkful for u
[07:16] <FlareDS> wanttotryubuntu: try the amd64 first
[07:16] <sajish> Vista???
[07:16] <sajish> anyone?
[07:17] <FlareDS> mudit: goto system, admin, network tools
[07:17] <FlareDS> !windows | sajish
[07:17] <stormchas2000> Sajish I dont know much about vista  but I think you need a vista disk if it has been erased
[07:18] <Flannel> Fahmy: What version of Ubuntu are you trying to install?
[07:18] <Fahmy> Flannel the newest one. i jsut downlaoded it from the website and burned it
[07:18] <mudit> well i see that my TCP port 1935 is being listened too, but i dont see the application name
[07:19] <Flannel> Fahmy: alright. Try completing the install using the onscreen keyboard.
[07:19] <mudit> neither the PID ?
[07:19] <stormchas2000> Fahmy I think if your laptop keybaord will not work you will have to go and get a keyboard with a serial ps2 plug. then after the loading of ubuntu you will probably find the driver for your built in keyboard
[07:20] <olegb> mudit: netstat -na | grep foo ?
[07:20] <mudit> olegb: this is all I get >> tcp6       0      0 :::1935                 :::*                    LISTEN
[07:22] <xy|ox> mudit, sudo netstat -putan
[07:23] <Brando753> hey im trying to connect to my deskyop (windows) to print help it set for sharing but dosent appear in the SMB browse
[07:23] <Brando753> it wi,l not ocnnect
[07:23] <Brando753> connect
[07:24] <mudit> okies, got it its some Java , thanks ! FlareDS,olegb,xy|ox
[07:24] <freshtonic> I'm thinking about installing the latest build of jaunty on my desktop machine.  What's the stability like and are there any issues with NVidia drivers?
[07:27] <Fahmy> what is the intial user/pass for ubunto ???
[07:27] <eTranquility> Hi, I'm running 8.10. It seems like none of my applications can connect to the internet except for Firefox and Pidgin. This happened suddenly and I don't know what's wrong. How can I fix it?
[07:28] <woonix> Fahmy: It's whatever you set it to when you were asked in the installer
[07:28] <Fahmy> woonix i could not do it
[07:28] <U-b-u-n-t-u> is there anyway to make 8.04 show the cpu by default in the system monitor like with 8.14
[07:28] <Lyrra> Does anyone know of a way to use the Winpopup protocol from ubuntu to a vista machine?
[07:29] <Lyrra> I know the smbclient command but it gives me an error message
[07:30] <Lyrra> session request failed
[07:31] <eTranquility> I'm thinking it might be a proxy thing but that would be strange since I don't use one.
[07:34] <b1n42y> Is there a difference between readahead and preload ?
[07:35] <SandGorgon> !remastersys
[07:35] <eTranquility> And it's really frustrating because I can't use synaptic. =/ Anyone?
[07:36] <john_> www.google.com/linux
[07:38] <stormchas2000> wow it got quiet
[07:39] <SandGorgon> guys... is remastersys the best way to make a custom livecd .. of my current system ? I want to distribute it to friends
[07:39] <s3a> is there a ubuntu application that allows me to see if my hard drive is failing?
[07:41] <john_> because everyone is watching what i discover :)
[07:41] <stormchas2000> 2 good questions and i dont have an answer   I am new myself
[07:41] <{bosco}> anyone ever installed safari in ubuntu other than through wine????
[07:42] <quibbler> b1n42y: Preload:- Fast application startup- Slow boot - Small memory usage ...Readahead:- Fast application startup- Fast boot time- Big memory consumption
[07:42] <enzotib> !offtopic | john_
[07:42] <john_> {bosco}: :S safari? why you need it? i have osx and i never use it
[07:42] <{bosco}> john_, i just would like to have it for web testing??
[07:43] <{bosco}> john_,  is it possible
[07:43] <{bosco}> ??
[07:43] <levidos> hello. my add/remove application list is empty. what can i do?
[07:43] <U-b-u-n-t-u> anyone know how to make the system monitor show cpu usage in the panel as the icon
[07:43] <ZykoticK9> s3a, if you believe you HD is failing I'd start by looking through "dmesg" if you see errors (particularly ones repeated again and again) pertaining to your HD chances are it's failing.  I/O Errors, again and again would be fairly good proof of failure.  I'm unaware of any apps that specifically look for HD failure.  Good luck, hope you've got your data backed up.
[07:43] <john_> {bosco}: as far as i know.. it does not.. last time i check it, it was not working with wine.. so doubt there is other way
[07:44] <{bosco}> john_, thanks
[07:44] <john_> {bosco}: anyway.. safari sucks.. i always use FF while in OSX
[07:45] <quibbler> levidos: look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6396412
[07:45] <ZykoticK9> {bosco}, it is possible to get Safari running on linux, using wine (i had it running under 8.04, did have a problem with fonts)
[07:46] <levidos> thanks quibbler
[07:46] <silv3r_m00n> hi thre
[07:46] <Evelynn> What's the name of package that provides X11 headers ? (something like x11-dev)
[07:47] <silv3r_m00n> how do I open a ms-access mdb database file from jdbc .. ( the data connection string that worked on windows doesn't work here in ubuntu)
[07:47] <quibbler> U-b-u-n-t-u: right click on panel add system monitor
[07:48] <crdlb> Evelynn: try libx11-dev
[07:48] <Athenon> How would I write a linux command to replace all instances of A with B...across an entire directory and all subdirectories?
[07:49] <Athenon> ie...if i switched domains and wanted to change it over en masse instead of changing it 100 places
[07:49] <gatyy> oiii
[07:50] <enzotib> Athenon, in filenames or in their content?
[07:50] <Athenon> enzotib:  their content
[07:50] <gatyy> hamm??
[07:51] <U-b-u-n-t-u> quibbler I have it in the panel but its the standard icon I wanted to know if I could change the icon to show the cpu usage
[07:51] <Evelynn> crdlb: thanks
[07:51] <enzotib> Athenon, something like (better asked in #bash): find /dir -type f -exec sed -i 's/A/B/g' {} \;
[07:51] <gatyy> eiiii...
[07:51] <gatyy> ........
[07:52] <quibbler> U-b-u-n-t-u: it shows a graph...do you mean as a number %
[07:52] <U-b-u-n-t-u> quibbler I am using 8.04 but I saw it like that with a friends computer installed with 8.14
[07:52] <b1n42y> quibbler, so i shouldnt have both running then
[07:52] <gatyy> vc e de onde????
[07:52] <gatyy> repita meu link
[07:52] <gatyy> plisss
[07:53] <U-b-u-n-t-u> quibbler the icon is just a standard icon for the system manager now but I wanted to change it to show the cpu usage while in the panel
[07:53] <gatyy> plisssssssssss
[07:53] <gatyy> hamm?///
[07:53] <Gnea> !english | gatyy
[07:53] <Flannel> !br | Gnea
[07:53] <quibbler> b1n42y: depends what you want...if you have the memory use both
[07:53] <Flannel> er,
[07:53] <Flannel> !br | gatyy
[07:53] <gladiator> hi. i just installed fprint for fingerprint reading. i dont like the behavior and i want to remove it. how can i do that?
[07:53] <Gnea> heh
[07:54] <gatyy> vcs sao de onde?
[07:54] <Gnea> gladiator: sudo apt-get remove fprint
[07:54] <gatyy> falam partugues?
[07:54] <Gnea> gatyy: /join #ubuntu-pt
[07:54] <gladiator> Gnea: will it remove everything?
[07:54] <Gnea> gladiator: you mean all of the dependencies?
[07:55] <john_> gatyy: /join #ubuntu-br
[07:55] <gladiator> Gnea: yes
[07:55] <gladiator> i did this:  sudo apt-get install aes2501-wy fprint-demo libfprint0 libpam-fprint
[07:55] <gatyy> fala espanhoss
[07:55] <gatyy> espanhol**
[07:55] <gatyy> ?
[07:55] <Gnea> gladiator: just replace install with remove then
[07:55] <b1n42y> quibbler, yes you are correct, just found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=137599  post 5
[07:56] <Gnea> gladiator: that will take care of the dependencies, otherwise no, the one I gave you would only remove fprint
[07:56] <ZykoticK9> gladiator, in your above line simply replace install with remove and it will remove the apps you installed
[07:56] <b1n42y> quibbler, thanks btw
[07:56] <Athenon> enzotib:  awesome.  i had to change /dir to just "www"...other than that, worked like a charm.  thanks.
[07:56] <gladiator> Gnea, Zykotick9 thanls
[07:56] <gladiator> thanks*
[07:56] <quibbler> b1 no problem
[07:56] <gatyy> como faz pra eu coloca em ingles?
[07:57] <gatyy> ?/
[07:57] <gatyy> plissssss
[07:57] <b1n42y> quibbler, just killing unnecessary services on tablet pc ...
[07:57] <prince_jammys> !pt > gatyy
[07:57] <gatyy> falemm comiggoo
[07:57] <laxmi_> hello
[07:57] <gatyy> oii
[07:57] <Flannel> gatyy: /join #ubuntu-pt
[07:57] <gatyy> hello
[07:57] <gatyy> pliiss eu falo francess
[07:57] <laxmi_> can any one help me to change Makefile machine type for srilm?
[07:58] <fuzeboxsoftware> can a video card cause ubuntu to be sluggish?
[07:58] <joot> Flanel, I am sure gatyy is trolling
[07:58] <Gnea> gatyy: Ouça, por favor, não manter a perguntar, estamos aqui só falam Inglês. Portanto, não podemos ajudá-lo. Você precisará deste tipo, a fim de obter ajuda, é sua única opção, caso contrário, você será obrigatoriamente removido: / join # ubuntu-pt
[07:58] <U-b-u-n-t-u> fuzeboxsoftware the windows manager can depending on what you have set in appearance
[07:59] <gatyy> bayy
[07:59] <laxmi_> hello I am from Nepal
[07:59] <gatyy> !
[07:59] <laxmi_> I am facing a problem
[07:59] <Somefool> Korea in the house!
[07:59] <Gnea> laxmi_: go ahead with the problem...
[07:59] <fuzeboxsoftware> U-b-u-n-t-u:  what do you mean?
[07:59] <yagami> test
[08:00] <porter1> Woot! Ubuntu jumped correctly :)
[08:00] <laxmi_> I want to install srilm language module in ubuntu but I could not change machine type in its ./Makefile
[08:01] <U-b-u-n-t-u> fuzeboxsoftware if you have a windows manager like compiz and you have the graphics set to visual effect set to extended it can slow things down
[08:01] <yagami> thank you bye
[08:01] <U-b-u-n-t-u> fuzeboxsoftware if you have a windows manager like compiz and you have the visual effect set to extended it can slow things down*
[08:02] <fuzeboxsoftware> U-b-u-n-t-u: I had it on medium, but I just turned it down. It just seems like the firefox browser and just the response of the system is a bit sluggish
[08:02] <Galactic_Ameoba> hey
[08:02] <Gnea> laxmi_: what is 'srilm'?
[08:02] <qO_Op> help
[08:02] <Gnea> !ask | qO_Op
[08:02] <U-b-u-n-t-u> fuzeboxsoftware I was having the same problem and I installed openbox as my windows manager and now its running fast
[08:02] <Galactic_Ameoba> fusebox you should try swiftfox instead, it's faster
[08:02] <qO_Op> EXIT
[08:03] <qO_Op> QUIT
[08:03] <qO_Op> help
[08:03] <qO_Op> bye
[08:03] <Gnea> qO_Op: like this:  /help  /exit  /quit
[08:03] <laxmi_> # SRILM = /home/laxmi/srilm
[08:03] <stormchas2000> good night all  talk to you later
[08:03] <laxmi_> it is a language module for statistical MT
[08:03] <Gnea> MT?
[08:04] <laxmi_> MACHINE_TYPE := $(shell $(SRILM)/sbin/machine-type)
[08:04] <fuzeboxsoftware> installing openbox now
[08:04] <laxmi_> but does not work
[08:04] <fuzeboxsoftware> U-b-u-n-t-u: What exactly is openbox and why is it better than what comes with ubuntu?
[08:05] <Pengu> openbox is a window manager
[08:05] <b1n42y> fuzeboxsoftware, i believe its a lightweight DE
[08:05] <U-b-u-n-t-u> fuzeboxsoftware I didnt say it was better but lighter (uses less cpu)... I was using compiz as my windows manager and everything was a little slower
[08:05] <Gnea> laxmi_: http://coco-lab.org/Elgg/timo/weblog/59.html
[08:06] <laxmi_> I will try it
[08:06] <prince_jammys> fuzeboxsoftware: it's a light window manager. whether it's better is a matter of preference/needs
[08:06] <prince_jammys> fluxbox is another
[08:07] <ashgadgets> Hey, I do have a small question
[08:07] <ashgadgets> I cant use my wacom tablet
[08:07] <ashgadgets> I can use it as a secondary display
[08:07] <prince_jammys> fuzeboxsoftware: i find firefox to be too slow for me in ubuntu, also.
[08:07] <ashgadgets> but not as a Touchscreen :(
[08:07] <durt> fluxbox is based on open box I believe, in the repos is lxde which is also based on openbox
[08:08] <fuzeboxsoftware> Its not just firefox, the system as a whole is sluggish and its really bothersome...I really want to make the switch from vista to ubuntu, but don't like the sluggish
[08:08] <quibbler> U-b-u-n-t-u: in synaptic search for hardware-monitor install it and add to panel and you can set the icon as you like
[08:08] <U-b-u-n-t-u> quibbler,  thanks!
[08:09] <Athenon> i have xemacs on my remote server...but i dont know how to get it to run on my local x server (windows vista, xming)
[08:09] <Athenon> i enabled x11 tunneling.
[08:09] <durt> fuzeboxsoftware: specs?
[08:10] <fuzeboxsoftware> durt: amd athlon dual core: 2.4 ghz, 2 gigs ram, 9500GT nivida card
[08:10] <ZykoticK9> Athenon, on your Vista machine when you create the ssh connection do you also have an option to enable X tunneling?  ie. X forwarding must be enabled on both the server and the client.  good luck.
[08:10] <fuzeboxsoftware> dual: dual booting ubuntu+vista
[08:10] <Athenon> ZykoticK9:  yeah.  its enabled.
[08:10] <ZykoticK9> Athenon, on both...
[08:10] <durt> why would ubuntu be slow on that?
[08:11] <ZykoticK9> Athenon, have you tried any other X apps?
[08:11] <Athenon> ZykoticK9:  not yet.  hang on.
[08:11] <Pengu> fuzeboxsoftware: how did you install Ubuntu, and was it on an external drive?
[08:11] <durt> or was it the live cd?
[08:11] <fuzeboxsoftware> i installed by cdrom
[08:12] <fuzeboxsoftware> well
[08:12] <fuzeboxsoftware> it had the option to run live cd or do an install
[08:12] <fuzeboxsoftware> i just ran the install
[08:12] <Pengu> How large is your partition?
[08:12] <fuzeboxsoftware> umm
[08:12] <Athenon> ZykoticK9:  root@subaru:/home/athenon/irc/inspircd/conf# xcalc
[08:12] <Athenon> Error: Can't open display:
[08:12] <dayo> in pidgin the bonjour protocol lets u chat on an intranet, without actually being on the internet. but the account is not password-protected like yahooIM, aim, msn etc. are there any apps that are password-protected intranet chats?
[08:13] <fuzeboxsoftware> around a 100 gigs, not sure exactly
[08:13] <Bigmoos> Does anyone know how to get America's Army for Ubuntu ?
[08:13] <Bigmoos> (the game)
[08:13] <fuzeboxsoftware> Bigmoos: think you have to run it in wine
[08:13] <defrysk> no
[08:13] <Pengu> fuzeboxsoftware: Does it run slowly without compiz affects on?
[08:13] <prince_jammys> Athenon: did you ssh -X  or -Y ?
[08:14] <devilsadvocate>  hi. my aptitude refuses to install anything since it says it cant find rhythmbox package. can anyone help me fix this issue?
[08:14] <ZykoticK9> Athenon, can you verify on the server with "cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | grep X" that "X11Forwarding yes"
[08:14] <defrysk> is available for linux
[08:14] <Athenon> prince_jammys:  i jsut opened my ssh client XD
[08:14] <Pengu> Based on your specs, Ubuntu should run fine.
[08:14] <fuzeboxsoftware> defrysk: didn't know that :)
[08:14] <Bigmoos> defrysk, It is /
[08:14] <Athenon> ZykoticK9:  root@subaru:/home/athenon/irc/inspircd/conf# cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | grep X
[08:14] <Athenon> X11Forwarding yes
[08:14] <Bigmoos> fuzeboxsoftware, where can I download it ?
[08:14] <fuzeboxsoftware> Pengu: umm, its still a bit sluggish
[08:14] <Athenon> prince_jammys:  no...i use secureshell client for windows
[08:14] <fuzeboxsoftware> Bigmoos: Not sure for the linux version
[08:15] <defrysk> Bigmoos, http://americasarmy.filefront.com/file/AASF_Direct_Action_v25_Linux_Full_Install;49654
[08:15] <ZykoticK9> Athenon, I'm afraid I don't have any further suggestions.  In linux when i get this error it is because I forgot to add "-Y" to the ssh connection, but on Windows - I got nothin'.  Good luck.
[08:15] <Bigmoos> defrysk, "http://<IP_ADDRESS>/6sngz1f4u5+/gamingfiles/Americas_Army/Official_Releases/Full_Install/armyops250linux.run/X6" = Only one connection to the server is supported, so if you are using a download manager that attempts to establish multiple connections, you will receive this error.
[08:16] <ZykoticK9> Athenon, do you have an X server running in Vista?
[08:16] <Bigmoos> defrysk, wait there it started
[08:16] <Athenon> ZykoticK9:  xming.  yep.
[08:16] <ZykoticK9> Athenon, sorry... I got nothin'...
[08:16] <fuzeboxsoftware> Pengu: Any ideas how I can fix this sluggishness?
[08:17] <defrysk> Bigmoos, check google for a howto install it
[08:17] <Pengu> fuzeboxsoftware: I'm really not sure what the problem is. It could be the graphics drivers. Have you not installed them?
[08:17] <defrysk> Bigmoos, its probably sh blah.tur
[08:17] <defrysk> Bigmoos, its probably sh blah.run , sorry
[08:17] <Bigmoos> defrysk, it seems it's just bash , or sh file.run
[08:17] <fuzeboxsoftware> Pengu: I have read that the graphics driver might be the problem. I was trying to confirm that. It took me forever to install it and was a pain.
[08:17] <defrysk> Bigmoos, yes
[08:18] <Bigmoos> what's the difference in bash and sh?
[08:18] <Bigmoos> I always remember bash
[08:18] <Bigmoos> before sh
[08:18] <Bigmoos> aren't they both just terminals
[08:18] <fuzeboxsoftware> Thought bash and sh were the same
[08:18] <Pengu> Did you install a proprietary one?
[08:18]  * defrysk usually uses sh
[08:18] <fuzeboxsoftware> Pengu: Not sure to be honest...I know I had to configure the xorg.conf and stuff
[08:18] <fuzeboxsoftware> Pengu: Had some help doing it, so not sure.
[08:18] <prince_jammys> Bigmoos: bash has more features. ubuntu's sh is dash, which is a very basic Bourne family shell
[08:19] <prince_jammys> neither are terminals
[08:19] <Bigmoos> prince_jammys, so in general, it doesn't matter which one I use ?
[08:19] <Pengu> When you go to system > administrator > hardware drivers, what does it tell you?
[08:19] <ZykoticK9> Bigmoos, actually sh came before bash; they are NOT the same - but in Linux it's not possible to get a true sh shell (in FreeBSD, Solaris you can)
[08:19] <Bigmoos> mmmmmmmkay
[08:20] <prince_jammys> Bigmoos: if you're just running programs, it doesn't matter.
[08:20] <fuzeboxsoftware> propritary drivers are being used to make this computer run correctly, Pengu
[08:20] <Pengu> Why did you need help installing the driver?
[08:20] <fuzeboxsoftware> Pengu: Well, when I first installed Ubuntu and enabled the driver, it crashed the XServer
[08:21] <fuzeboxsoftware> And needed help getting it back up
[08:21] <Pengu> I see.
[08:21] <fuzeboxsoftware> Had to configure the xorg and etc.
[08:21] <fuzeboxsoftware> Has 3 of them
[08:21] <fuzeboxsoftware> 1 of them worked, but didn't fully utilize the card
[08:21] <fuzeboxsoftware> and the latest one did, but crashed, so thinking, maybe this might be causing my probs?
[08:22] <fuzeboxsoftware> the sluggish prob that is
[08:22] <Pengu> fuzeboxsoftware: I'm not entirely sure how to correct it, but I'm fairly sure you're right in thinking it has to do with the driver itself
[08:22] <fuzeboxsoftware> Pengu: Might try to enable the others and see if my problem eases down, if so, then I am on the right track
[08:23] <Pengu> I'd guess that's your best bet.
[08:24] <morsing> mornign
[08:25] <Pengu> fuze, have you checked this thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=887954&page=2
[08:25] <quibbler> morsing: good morning
[08:25] <prof>  hello friends, I want to use a command for remounting partition without restarting I've forgotten it (I'm testing fstab in fedora
[08:25] <morsing> :)
[08:25] <morsing> How come upgrading from etch to lenny has removed locate?
[08:25]  * devilsadvocate wonders why ubuntu ibex has a rhythmbox svn build
[08:25] <Flannel> prof: sudo mount -a
[08:25] <prince_jammys> mount -a
[08:25] <morsing> Sorry, wrong channel
[08:25] <morsing> :)
[08:26] <prof> Flannel, Price_jammys thanks
[08:26] <Fahmy> which keyboard map should i use with Laptop ?? plz give me hint
[08:26] <quibbler> morsing: bad morning??!!
[08:27] <kjdro> hi there, is there a way to reset audio hardware from the live-cd session in ubuntu 8.10 ?
[08:27] <technologiclee> how to undo PATH=.:PATH
[08:28] <magnetron> kjdro→ the hardware is reset at every reboot
[08:28] <durt> kjdro: maybe with modprobe?
[08:28] <Fahmy> Flannel
[08:28] <Fahmy> which keybaord layout shoud; i use ???
[08:28] <kjdro> i was using mplayer, then drag&drop another avi file while it was playing one, it hanged, now the soundcard keeps repeating the last tone
[08:28] <prince_jammys> technologiclee: PATH=${PATH#.:}
[08:29] <kjdro> magnetron -> i cant reboot... live cd .. and copying to usb in progress .. :( for sadly more then a day .. 1GB
[08:29] <Fahmy> hey guys
[08:29] <technologiclee> yes exactly prince
[08:29] <prince_jammys> technologiclee: huh?
[08:29] <Fahmy> which keybaord layout shoud; i chose for Laptop whiel isntaling ubunto ???
[08:29] <magnetron> kjdro→ did you lose sound? how?
[08:29] <technologiclee> i left off the $ and ran it changing my PATH
[08:30] <prince_jammys> technologiclee: ah, missed that.
[08:30] <ReX> ...
[08:30] <kjdro> not lose.. still working.. but as explained above... (10:28:24 AM)  now i get a constant buzzing in the background
[08:30] <magnetron> Fahmy→ for most laptops the 105-key default layout will work.
[08:30] <drazak> kjdro: how high are your volumes turned up?
[08:30] <drazak> kjdro: if your master and pcm are both over 90, then it's probably just line noise
[08:30] <ReX> hey... good place to go, just to talk?
[08:31] <Fahmy> magnetron int his option, there r 2 coloumns. the left oen selct the coutnry. then the right one is the inside coutnry selction. i am talkign abt step 3 of 7
[08:31] <baz_> i would like to mount a folder in my /home directory using fstab - is this possible or does fstab have to be user independent?
[08:31] <kjdro> drazak -> it's not line noise..!
[08:31] <kjdro> (10:28:24 AM) kjdro: i was using mplayer, then drag&drop another avi file while it was playing one, it hanged, now the soundcard keeps repeating the last tone
[08:32] <drazak> kjdro: are you sure it's not line noise?
[08:32] <prince_jammys> technologiclee: well, you can paste this for a standard one, PATH=usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[08:32] <kjdro> yes
[08:32] <drazak> is it loud or soft?
[08:32] <kjdro> verry absolutly 100% shure
[08:32] <magnetron> Fahmy→ you know what country-layout to choose, right? aren't there a default 102 or 105-key layout to choose in the right-hand list?
[08:32] <kjdro> i had to kill pid of mplayer
[08:32] <errietta> hey can u help i need to see how much memory a proccess uses and how much time it takes but NOT with system monitor because it is a command line program that exits immideately and yeah i have googled and /usr/bin/time doesn't really work cause it brings 0 to everything except CPU plz help
[08:32] <kjdro> and i think i used OpenAL audio output inside mplayer
[08:32] <prince_jammys> technologiclee: or start another shell. what i pasted is missing a leading '/'
[08:33] <fuzeboxsoftware> Pengu: changing driver helped a bit
[08:33] <Fahmy> magnetron no... for usa selction. there r options like dvorak, macnosh. last handeed dvorak., etc
[08:33] <kjdro> durt -> how can i see loaded kernel modules ?
[08:33] <errietta> hello
[08:33] <Fahmy> magnetron none fo them speffy the keybaord
[08:33] <acer_> i desire to buy a dell laptop which kind of them have all functionally in ubuntu?
[08:33] <ZykoticK9> kjdro, lsmod
[08:33] <quibbler> kjdro: try: sudo killall pulseaudio
[08:33] <devilsadvocate> ok. i have this wierd keymapping problem. my quotation marks are not really quotation marks, apostopies, the tilda needs two keypresses to make, etc. anyone here know what i need to fix?
[08:33] <dudus> kjdro: lsmod
[08:34] <errietta> hello????
[08:34] <Pengu> fuzeboxsoftware: A bit?
[08:34] <fuzeboxsoftware> Anyone know the line to bookmark chatzilla in firefox to open in new tab?
[08:34] <kjdro> yeah .. remembered .. lsmod
[08:34] <eTranquility> Hi, I'm running 8.10. It seems like none of my applications can connect to the internet except for Firefox and Pidgin. This happened suddenly and I don't know what's wrong. How can I fix it?
[08:34] <fuzeboxsoftware> Pengu: Yes, so I am guess it is the driver being used
[08:34] <Fahmy> magnetron i can chose any coutnry which makes my computer work.
[08:34] <Fahmy> not necessary my own coutnry
[08:34] <fuzeboxsoftware> Cause the latest one offered support for 3D, the one im using now, only offers 2D
[08:34] <ZykoticK9> eTranquility, are you able to "ping" an internet site currently?
[08:35] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, are you behind a corporate or institutional firewall?
[08:35] <fuzeboxsoftware> Pengu: I should say, things are not as sluggish
[08:35] <dudus> eTranquility: maybe a dns issue.... try to use the dns numbers from opendns
[08:35] <magnetron> Fahmy→ choose the one that corresponds to the letters on your keyboard
[08:35] <kjdro> quibbler: not solved.. killing pulseaudio didnt work..
[08:35] <baz_> is the best way to mount a disk only when i login to put a *mount* command in rc.local?
[08:36] <Fahmy> magnetron ur guessign does not happen. there is nothing like what u saiod
[08:36] <Bigmoos> oh yes, one other thing.  What can I use to open 7zips? ( 7z's )
[08:37] <prince_jammys> !7z
[08:37] <eTranquility> ZykoticK9: Yes, ping works.
[08:37] <kjdro> dudus: sadly this is the only thing i found in the loaded modules: snd_page_alloc         16136  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
[08:37] <Fahmy> can u guys help me how to selct the proper keyboard layout for my laptop ?
[08:38] <ZykoticK9> eTranquility, other then apt-get what other programs are NOT working?
[08:38] <kjdro> dudus -> if i remove module .. and install it again.. would it help ?
[08:38] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate, I am not, I believe my connection hasn't changed since it was working.
[08:38] <prince_jammys> Bigmoos: there's a gui app for that in the 'accesories' menu. it says 'archive manager' or similar. that's fileroller
[08:38] <eTranquility> dudus, Thing is, it was working before with no problems, I'm not sure what happened.
[08:38] <dudus> eTranquility: maybe the dns you were using went down...
[08:38] <durt> kjdro: try 'sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart'
[08:38] <kjdro> dudus-> was lying.. turns out i have this as well: snd                    63268  25
[08:39] <kjdro> durt -> was my first try.. didnt work
[08:39] <durt> :(
[08:39] <Bigmoos> prince_jammys, It seems there is also a P7zip
[08:39] <Fahmy> can u guys help me how to selct the proper keyboard layout for my laptop ?
[08:40] <kjdro> $ modprobe -r snd
[08:40] <kjdro> FATAL: Module snd is in use.
[08:40] <technologiclee> where does PATH usually point?
[08:40] <eTranquility> ZykoticK9: Boxee stopped working, can't install firefox plugins (apt-get, I think?), not sure what else to test. The little weather applet that comes with ubuntu that's on my toolbar works, if that's any help?
[08:40] <technologiclee> lee@4620Z:~$ ls
[08:40] <technologiclee> Command 'ls' is available in '/bin/ls'
[08:40] <technologiclee> The command could not be located because '/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.
[08:40] <technologiclee> bash: ls: command not found
[08:40] <FloodBot2> technologiclee: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:40] <prince_jammys> technologiclee: PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[08:41] <prince_jammys> technologiclee: set your PATH properly or start another shell.
[08:41] <ReX> i know this is the wrong place to ask... but where is a good place to just talk??
[08:41] <durt> !offtopic
[08:41] <quibbler> ReX: #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:41] <dudus> technologiclee: looks like you've been fu**ng around your $PATH
[08:41] <eTranquility> dudus: I have a connection on my other machines (running Windows) and in Windows with my current machine. Firefox and Pidgin work.
[08:41] <ZykoticK9> eTranquility, so IRC/Firefox/weather applet ARE working, but Boxee and apt-get aren't???
[08:41] <ReX> thank you
[08:42] <eTranquility> ZykoticK9: That is correct.
[08:42] <dudus> eTranquility: why are you complaining if you don't try out what we ask? Try to change that dns setting for god sake
[08:42] <kjdro> YEEEESSSS !!!
[08:42] <kjdro> solution: sudo alsa force-reload
[08:43] <durt> woot
[08:43] <kjdro> YESSSS ..YEPPEEe working !!!
[08:43] <kjdro> SOO HAPPY
[08:43] <ZykoticK9> eTranquility, I doubt it's a DNS issue if you can browse the web with Firefox.
[08:43] <kjdro> solong mates...
[08:43] <kjdro> and thx
[08:44] <Fahmy> can u guys help me how to selct the proper keyboard layout for my laptop ?
[08:44] <eTranquility> dudus: I'll be glad to give it a shot, but I have no idea how to do that. (No clue about networking) Would you be willing to walk me through it?
[08:45] <eTranquility> ZykoticK9: If it helps, I use a proxy when at school (I'm not now) but I change the settings ONLY in Firefox.
[08:45] <ZykoticK9> eTranquility, THAT's the problem!
[08:46] <dudus> eTranquility: https://www.opendns.com/start/device/ubuntu
[08:46] <eTranquility> ZykoticK9: I've always just changed it back to not using a proxy in Firefox. Did I break something?
[08:47] <dudus> eTranquility: good luck with that, I gotta go
[08:47] <eTranquility> dudus, Thanks.
[08:47] <ZykoticK9> eTranquility, no but if your network is setup to use a proxy, your change in Firefox ONLY affects Firefox, non of the other apps, which are still trying to go through the proxy
[08:47] <Fahmy> can u guys help me how to selct the proper keyboard layout for my laptop ?
[08:48] <eTranquility> ZykoticK9: Right, but I've only changed Firefox settings, I didn't do it through System-> Prefs -> Network Proxy
[08:48] <DakarRally> Hi, can anyone help me get my headphones working?
[08:49] <fuzeboxsoftware> anyone know why gnome art won't let me install new login screens?
[08:49] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, apt-get does not work at home ?
[08:49] <eTranquility> ZykoticK9: Anyways, if changing Firefox settings has somehow affected my systemwide settings, how do I change it to not using a proxy? Network Proxy shows no proxy being used.
[08:49] <ZykoticK9> eTranquility, yup - so Firefox works, apt/boxee won't...  if you disable the proxy in network settins it will let everything talk to the internet (without a non-existing proxy getting in the way)
[08:50] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: apt-get doesn't work ANYWHERE.
[08:50] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, firefox proxy setting dont (and cant) affect system wide settings
[08:50] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, and you have a proxy at school and direct connection at home?
[08:50] <ZykoticK9> eTranquility, ummm???
[08:50] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: Yes.
[08:51] <kamikaze> hello there, i   got ubuntu 8.10 and i can't acces my ntfs partitiion, can  anyone help?
[08:51] <shadowh511> kamikaze: run mount in a terminal please
[08:52] <shadowh511> **just open a terminal, type in mount and press enter
[08:52] <kamikaze> okay i did so  but there was no ntfs partition sh all i paste it here?
[08:53] <shadowh511> sure
[08:53] <berat> ./etcfstab
[08:53] <kamikaze> alin@alindesk:~$ mount
[08:53] <kamikaze> /dev/mapper/nvidia_gfcdiceh5 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)
[08:53] <kamikaze> tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
[08:53] <kamikaze> /proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[08:53] <kamikaze> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[08:53] <kamikaze> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
[08:53] <FloodBot2> kamikaze: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:53] <eTranquility> ZykoticK9: apt-get and boxee stopped working around the time I started connecting to my school network (with the proxy) but I've usually been able to just change the connection settings in Firefox back to not using a proxy (since I've always only changed them to using a proxy in Firefox)). Proxy settings may or may not be related to my problem. >.<;;;
[08:53] <berat> hohohoh
[08:53] <prince_jammys> :)
[08:53] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, do what ZykoticK9 says. verify that the system wide proxy settings are set to no proxy if you are at home. these should be in system>administration> network/proxy (not sure which)
[08:53] <shadowh511> kamikaze, how old is your computer?
[08:54] <kamikaze> ehm maybe about 2 years
[08:54] <disappearedng> fHey what are ctags?
[08:54] <prince_jammys> !ntfs | kamikaze
[08:54] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate, ZykoticK9: Network Proxy shows that configuration is set to a direct internet connection as it should be.
[08:54] <shadowh511> can you run ls /dev/sd* for me?
[08:55] <ZykoticK9> eTranquility, did you say the apt-get has NEVER worked?
[08:55] <prince_jammys> sudo fdisk -l  is more to the point
[08:55] <kamikaze> i got a raid 0 running and 1 partition is linux and 1 is windows
[08:55] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, what error does apt-get give you, exactly?
[08:55] <eTranquility> ZykoticK9, It did work before.
[08:55] <shadowh511> kamikaze: oh, RAID /facepalm i have no raid experience :(
[08:56] <kamikaze> but it should make no difference because both system recognized the hdd
[08:56] <DakarRally> Any chance someone could help me get my headphones working?
[08:56] <ZykoticK9> eTranquility, sorry man, it's 5AM where I am and I'm off to bed.  Good luck man.  Night all.
[08:57] <shadowh511> kamikaze, can you run "sudo fdisk -l" sans quotes for me and paste the output in paste.ubuntu.com?
[08:57] <kamikaze> and if i type /dev/sd* for there are a lot of bashes
[08:57] <eTranquility> ZykoticK9 Thanks anyways. =/
[08:57] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, slightly off topic, but for the record apt-get can work behind proxy. many command line stuff can. you need to run ¨export HTTP_PROXY=http:\\user:pass@proxy.address:proxyport¨ in the terminal before running the application
[08:57] <Aperculum> suddenly my vim has lost its python syntax hilights and indentation rules
[08:57] <kamikaze> do i need to join paste ubuntu.com?= i mean how do i get tehre
[08:57] <shadowh511> eT... you having an apt problem?
[08:58] <shadowh511> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[08:58] <eTranquility> shadowh511: apt-get and boxee stopped working. Firefox and Pidgin are fine.
[08:58] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, for now though, give us the exact error / last few lines of an apt command
[08:58] <shadowh511> eT... what is boxee?
[08:59] <kamikaze> http://paste.ubuntu.com/128126/plain/
[08:59] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, does it say waiting, looking up, does it specify a http error.. ?
[08:59] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: http://paste.ubuntu.com/128127/
[08:59] <Fahmy> can u guys help me how to selct the proper keyboard layout for my laptop ?
[08:59] <shadowh511> kamikaze: oh s--t
[08:59] <kamikaze> ho s--t?
[08:59] <BABER> hi
[08:59] <shadowh511> eT, you have to run apt-get as root
[09:00] <shadowh511> !sudo
[09:00] <shadowh511> !root
[09:00] <shadowh511> !superuser
[09:00] <eTranquility> shadowh511: Yeah, just forget.
[09:00] <devilsadvocate> !sudo | eTranquility
[09:00] <shadowh511> eT: ?
[09:00] <devilsadvocate> hm
[09:00] <BABER> i install new harddisk now i can not see it in ubuntu how can i  scan for new hardware?
[09:00] <eTranquility> shadowh511: I did afterwards if you read further.
[09:00] <shadowh511> BABER: go to places and click on it
[09:01] <kamikaze> hey  what is now going on  with my ntfs partition :D you just said oh s--t
[09:01] <eTranquility> shadowh511: I'm assuming you're reading my paste and noticing I didn't use sudo first off. You may have just been advising me beforehand, my apologies.
[09:01] <shadowh511> kamikaze: can you test-reboot into windows? I think there might be bad stuff happening
[09:02] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, can you try pinging that ip address
[09:02] <shadowh511> eT...: Is there ay type of internet filtering device attached to your network?
[09:02] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, that address looks like that of a squid proxy
[09:02] <kamikaze> actually i had 9.04 first installed and when i tried to boot with grub i got some NTLDR error
[09:03] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: #$%@ I just realized that's the address I used for my school proxy. >.>;
[09:03] <shadowh511> kamikaze: yep, windows and ubuntu are gone
[09:03] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, i believe you have your proxy settings set somewhere you didnt unset. can you check the output for ¨echo $HTTP_PROXY¨
[09:03] <kamikaze> how do you mean :)?,  i read that i just need 2 copy 1 file from the cd for windows
[09:04] <shadowh511> i think that windows is fubar
[09:04] <shadowh511> idk for sure
[09:04] <shadowh511> its most likely
[09:04] <shadowh511> D:
[09:04] <kamikaze> fubar :D? you  confuse me  im not native english
[09:05] <shadowh511> f--ked up beyond all repair
[09:05] <kamikaze> hm but there has to be a way to save my data :(
[09:05] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: I get no output for "echo $HTTP_PROXY".
[09:05] <shadowh511> data recovery is expensive, how much is the data worth to you?
[09:05] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, there is a proxy setting _somewhere_ in /etc/apt. i dont remember where :|
[09:05] <kamikaze> and the wered thing is that last  time i had ubuntu installed i got the same problem, i had no access to the ntfs partition
[09:06] <shadowh511> could be a bad partition
[09:06] <prince_jammys> kamikaze: google has a few hits for 'cannot seek on /dev/sda'. look at those, unless someone here knows how to repair things
[09:06] <BABER> shadowh511: my new drives are not in places
[09:06] <kamikaze> well actually i dont wanna loose it
[09:06] <prince_jammys> kamikaze: specifically related to RAID
[09:06] <kamikaze> but how could this happen i mean i just installed ubuntu on another partition that should have done nothing to windows
[09:07] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: Trying to find it.
[09:07] <kamikaze> the problem is that the live cd doesnt support raid so i cant really save the data
[09:07] <shadowh511> BABER: install gparted (Applications->Accessories->terminal->sudo apt-get install gparted->System->Administartion->Partition editor)
[09:07] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: Found it. I have it set to direct internet connection.
[09:07] <disappearedng> hey can someone explain (in easy terms) what does the application QEMU does/
[09:07] <shadowh511> kamikaze: u got a flashdrive handy?
[09:07] <shadowh511> dis...:its a virtual pc
[09:07] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: It's in prefs, then network.
[09:07] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, it should work now. something similar must be the problem for boxee (i have no idea what boxee is though)
[09:08] <shadowh511> !boxee
[09:08] <shadowh511> dang
[09:08] <kamikaze> i got the alternative 8.10 installed
[09:08] <kamikaze> - because of raid
[09:08] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: It's always been set to direct connection. >.<
[09:08] <shadowh511> hmmm
[09:08] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, there is an apt-specific proxy setting in a file inside /etc/apt .  did someone else setup your laptop to work in school?
[09:09] <shadowh511> i was gonna suggest putting the livecd on your f/d, but then i realized that it would make no diff, lulz
[09:09] <shadowh511> kamikaze, its 1am now and i am drooling, g'night, email me if you need more help (screenshots please<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:09] <todd> !paste
[09:10] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: No, the ONLY thing (I swear) that I remember changing is the browser settings (like I've always done in windows).
[09:10] <disappearedng> Hey how do I reinstall all my KDE related apps? I am using gnome and whenever I open any KDE apps it crashes
[09:13] <Nytrix> is there a program i can use to bind files together to become one executable file?
[09:13] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, the settings _used_ to be in /etc/apt/apt.conf . i think it has moved into one of the files of /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ . can you look through those files and check please?
[09:13] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: Ok.
[09:14] <chuxxsss> Anyone got MS Lifechat LX-3000 headset working it's USB type on ubuntu
[09:15] <BABER>  i install new harddisk now i can not see it in ubuntu how can i  scan for new hardware?
[09:16] <jelly12gen> BABER: fdisk -l
[09:16] <prince_jammys> BABER: sudo fdisk -l  should display it, along with your partitions
[09:16] <jelly12gen> or take a look at system disk or something
[09:16] <prince_jammys> Nytrix: if the files can just be concatenated, then  cat fileone filetwo > finalfile . but i don't know if this is what you mean. i doubt it.
[09:17] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: I see that there are several files in the directory you mentioned but none of them seem to be proxy related, I think, or maybe I just can't tell.
[09:17] <Nytrix> prince_jammys, i found it :)
[09:17] <Nytrix> !info makeself
[09:18] <prince_jammys> ah, that's what you meant
[09:19] <BABER> prince_jammys: i want show my ntfs partition but dont show
[09:19] <chuxxsss> Anyone got MS Lifechat LX-3000 headset working it's USB type on ubuntu?
[09:19] <prince_jammys> !ntfs | BABER
[09:20] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, bottom line is that for some reason aptitude is ttying to go through the proxy. this means some config settings are asking it to go through a proxy. your network itself is fine
[09:20] <shavin> i wish to install java runtime environment but not the development kit. how do i do it?
[09:21] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: Right, that helps. So you're saying I need to find a way to change my config files for each program I find not working?
[09:22] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, yes
[09:22] <diazepam> hi all, anyone recommend a logfile analyzing tool
[09:22] <Nytrix> r u sure this is how u do it? cat fileone filetwo > finalfile
[09:22] <chuxxsss> fix it
[09:22] <psicobra> how do i i tell witch ersion of ubuntu i have on this machine?
[09:22] <devilsadvocate> diazepam, which logfile?
[09:22] <psicobra> *version
[09:22] <psicobra> i.e 8.10
[09:23] <eTranquility> devilsadvocate: Okay, I guess I'll be playing with it. What does "reset" under Network Proxy Pref do?
[09:23] <devilsadvocate> eTranquility, i have no idea
[09:23] <prince_jammys> Nytrix: you haven't really explained what you're trying to do. that command just concatenates two files
[09:23] <diazepam> devilsadvocate - diskspace, mail, webserver, ftp server, loads, memory usage, samba  all the usual
[09:23] <devilsadvocate> diazepam, all of them use different logfile analysiers since they all have different logfile formats
[09:24] <mnabil> guys , how can i download package and their dependencies using apt
[09:24] <Nytrix> ok i want 1.pdf and 2.pdf to become one executable file that when clicked will open both 1.pdf and 2.pdf
[09:24] <diazepam> devilsadvocate - yeah thought there might be one that is more for office servers
[09:24] <prince_jammys> Nytrix: executable pdfs?
[09:25] <Nytrix> i guess
[09:25] <Nytrix> yes
[09:25] <levidos> is there any program for ubuntu which continues downloading when the computer is turned off?
[09:25] <devilsadvocate> levidos, that is not possible. physically.
[09:25] <ubuntu_cebit> ???
[09:25] <Nytrix> levarnu, a firefox add on called DownThemAll
[09:25] <ubuntu_cebit> how should the Computer download anything when it is Turned Off?
[09:25] <Nytrix> levidos, a firefox add on called DownThemAll
[09:25] <prince_jammys> levidos: pretty funny
[09:26] <b1n42y> levidos, do you mean, when you turn it off then on again ?
[09:26] <levidos> thanks Nytrix
[09:26] <Nytrix> :)
[09:28] <Nytrix> levidos, i hope thats what u meant
[09:29] <Nytrix> you can "resume" download
[09:29] <prince_jammys> Nytrix: then that command is certainly not what you want. but i'm pretty sure there's no such thing as an executable pdf. then again, i don't know about pdfs
[09:29] <soft1234> what is this?
[09:30] <prince_jammys> the ubuntu support channel
[09:30] <_Whipper__> soft: hmm..
[09:30] <Nytrix> this is a chat room
[09:30] <_Whipper__> nytrix: this is IRC
[09:30] <soft1234> i run on linux.... do you run on linux too?
[09:30] <prince_jammys>  /topic
[09:30] <_Whipper__> *christ*
[09:31] <Seveas> You called?
[09:31] <Nytrix> !ubuntu
[09:31] <prince_jammys> i don't run on linux, no
[09:31] <prince_jammys> i'm not exactly sure what i run on, but it's too old to be linux
[09:31] <soft1234> i knowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[09:31] <soft1234> it is a linux distro
[09:31] <Seveas> prince_jammys, 90's style nike air? :)
[09:31] <prince_jammys> older
[09:31] <thenetduck_> can anyone here answer a rubyonrails question? the rubyonrails irc is.. well a little bit odd
[09:31] <soft1234> what is the purpose of this chat room?
[09:32] <Seveas> soft1234, support for Ubuntu
[09:32] <_Whipper__> soft: topic
[09:32] <shavin> i run on my legs and on the food and liquids i have, my  laptop runs on ubuntu and battery charge
[09:32] <Nytrix> !topic
[09:32] <prince_jammys> soft1234: irc channels have 'topics'. you can ...
[09:32] <prince_jammys> what the bot said
[09:32] <Seveas> shavin, battery charge is so last century, you want hydrogen cells nowadays :)
[09:33] <soft1234> hydrogen cells are inefficient
[09:33] <shavin> in order to improve upon my ubuntu running speed i try to learn about 'cleaning ubuntu' recently and in order to run better myself i joined a taekwondo class 3 days a week recently. good progress going
[09:33] <_Whipper__> seveas: yes, and liquid h2 cooler
[09:33] <Seveas> soft1234, but explosive, which is all I care about :)
[09:34] <soft1234> i am finishing a PhD degree at China University of Petroleum
[09:34] <_Whipper__> a bit offtopic?
[09:34] <shavin> talking of explosive strength, i recommend frog jumps :-))
[09:34] <soft1234> try to see that i am not a dumb, as you think
[09:34] <prince_jammys> shavin: careful with those 'tips' from the internet. some are silly
[09:34] <Seveas> slightly, yeah. We should stay on topic
[09:34] <Seveas> ~ot
[09:34] <Seveas> !ot
[09:34] <prince_jammys> like 'turn off your ttys' <-- dumb
[09:34] <shavin> prince-jammys: yes i agree, google != god
[09:35] <Seveas> prince_jammys, hmm, I've been tempted to do that as I rarely use them
[09:35] <prince_jammys> bleh
[09:35] <Seveas> But then X crashed yesterday during a dist-upgrade, so I'll let them live for now :)
[09:35] <prince_jammys> those consume nothing
[09:35] <decembre> hello
[09:35] <Seveas> hello decembre, how are you?
[09:35] <prince_jammys> Seveas: yeah, they can be useful and the cost is negligible
[09:36] <soft1234> it seems you don't chat on technical issues...
[09:36] <decembre> Seveas : euh....
[09:36] <Nytrix> anyone encrypt their hard drive?
[09:36] <decembre> that's a question good to me !
[09:36] <Padhu> My Pidgin will not start CONNECTION AUTOMATICALLY? HOW CAN I SET THIS?
[09:36] <soft1234> negligeable
[09:36] <Seveas> !anyone | Nytrix
[09:36] <tefa> wala
[09:36] <_Whipper__> this is SOFTWARE support chan..
[09:36] <mnk> hi
[09:36] <tefa> s
[09:36] <Seveas> Padhu, first switch off the caps lock :)
[09:36] <decembre> I have a problem on my little server
[09:36] <Nytrix> does anyone encrypt their hard drive?
[09:36] <decembre> with a run part task !
[09:37] <Seveas> Padhu, then system -> preferences -> startup applications
[09:37] <mnk> can anyone help me. i have the desktop cube set up but i am trying to set up the cylinder - it doesn't seem to be working
[09:37] <_Whipper__> mnk: siable the other-one
[09:37] <Seveas> mnk, if noone in here can, maybe try #compiz (Sorry, I can't be more useful than this for you)
[09:37] <_Whipper__> disabele
[09:37] <mnk> which otther one _Whipper__
[09:37] <decembre> my / partition seems to be 100 % occupied
[09:37] <Nytrix> mnk join #compiz
[09:37] <soft1234> this chat room is a waste of time... i am off
[09:37] <decembre> I don't know why !
[09:37] <_Whipper__> mnk: the one u dont want to use
[09:37] <Seveas> decembre, then you'll need to remove some files :)
[09:38] <Nytrix> soft1234, bye
[09:38] <decembre> seveas : which ones
[09:38] <ohletmeinnowjesu> hi guys, i have some ff window size issues
[09:38] <decembre> ?
[09:38] <mnk> _Whipper__, how do i disable the cube?
[09:38] <decembre> that is the question !
[09:38] <ohletmeinnowjesu> can someone help me out?
[09:38] <Nytrix> !ask
[09:38] <mnk> _Whipper__, i thought i had to enable the cube for the cylinder to work?
[09:38] <Seveas> decembre, 'sudo apt-get clean' should give you some megabytes back. Then use baobab to find your stash of movies and delte a few :)
[09:38] <decembre> I don't know where is the directory problem ... ?
[09:39] <decembre> movies are in /home
[09:39] <decembre> separate partition
[09:39] <Seveas> decembre, how big is your / partition?
[09:39] <_Whipper__> mnk: hmm.. could someone else answer? i have to go >
[09:39] <mnk> :)
[09:39] <decembre> 2 Go
[09:39] <mnk> ok anyone else pls :)
[09:39] <Seveas> decembre, yeah, that's way too small...
[09:39] <mnk> i'm trying to enable the cylinder but itisn't working
[09:40] <decembre> normally, I have 500 Mo unoccupied !
[09:40] <decembre> This is a server
[09:40] <Seveas> decembre, until you start installing updates and need to download packages
[09:40] <decembre> not a desktop
[09:40] <Mic92> How can i make the chat-window in pidgin transparent?
[09:40] <decembre> I clean apt-get cache
[09:40] <decembre> like you say
[09:40] <Seveas> decembre, run apt-get clean, look in /tmp for large things and clean /var/log
[09:41] <decembre> and it is still 100%
[09:41] <decembre> thanks
[09:41] <Nytrix> mnk be more specific
[09:42] <decembre> tmp is 10 Ko
[09:42] <Seveas> decembre, then run du -shc /{lib,usr,bin,sbin,boot,srv,opt,var} to find out where space is occupied. /var/cache is a likely culprit
[09:42] <Nytrix> what cylinder ?
[09:42] <disappearedng> Hey how do I reinstall all my KDE related apps? I am using gnome and whenever I open any KDE apps it crashes
[09:42] <mnk> Nytrix, i am trying to enable the compiz cylinder instead of the cube - desktop effects
[09:42] <decembre> I have allready done that : var 200 Mo
[09:42] <decembre> usr 700 Mo
[09:42] <decembre> lib : 99 Mo
[09:43] <decembre> bin : 5 Mo
[09:43] <decembre> sbin : 5 Mo
[09:43] <Nytrix> mnk, reset everything back to default then check the cylinder box
[09:44] <mnk> Nytrix, how do i reset it to defaults?
[09:44] <stessy1> Hi
[09:44] <stessy1> I've a problem using WEP for my wifi
[09:44] <decembre> and noone on the other you say !
[09:45] <Nytrix> click Preferences then click reset to defaults
[09:45] <decembre> root, srv : few Ko
[09:45] <decembre> and no opt !
[09:45] <stessy1> if I use WPA the connection works
[09:45] <decembre> that is the third time it makes it
[09:45] <birdflu2007exe> halo
[09:45] <Seveas> decembre, pastebin the output of mount and df -h
[09:45] <decembre> I don't know why !
[09:45] <stessy1> but if I use WEP I can connect to my router
[09:45] <Nytrix> disappearedng, use Kubuntu i guess
[09:45] <stessy1> but I cannot go outside
[09:45] <decembre> ok !
[09:45] <decembre> thanks !
[09:46] <maru> mi amigos
[09:46] <maru> just passing through
[09:46] <maru> anyone here see "the watchmen"
[09:46] <maru> muchos buenos cinemidad
[09:47] <Nytrix> !english
[09:47] <birdflu2007exe> am a Ubuntu User
[09:47] <Seveas> !ot | maru
[09:47] <decembre> that's it : http://paste.ubuntu.com/128132/
[09:47] <maru> ;) k boss
[09:48] <decembre> seveas : thanks for help
[09:48] <decembre> anyover command ? ask !
[09:48] <disappearedng> Nytix: what?
[09:48] <Seveas> decembre, pastebin the output of: ls -la /
[09:48] <disappearedng> Nytrix: what? i am asking how I could uninstall and reinstall all the kde apps
[09:49] <Seveas> decembre, and also the output of:  ps aux
[09:49] <mnk> Nytrix, i reset everything
[09:49] <mnk> then i enabled cylinder
[09:49] <mnk> and it still works like a cube
[09:50] <decembre> ok