[00:00] <tomreyn> sphrak: if it was permission, it's be 403 or 50x
[00:01] <sphrak> tomreyn: that makes sense yes, hmm
[00:01] <tomreyn> mikubuntu: which "big crash"?
[00:05] <noah> hey
[00:05] <noah> anyone active?
[00:06] <tomreyn> mikubuntu: hmm "maxthon" doesn't seem to be an ubuntu package, so forget i asked.
[00:06] <mikubuntu> tomreyn: several mos ago this box went to black screen immediately upon doing a software update. at the time i was too busy to fix it, and only recently did a fresh install of lub 14.04. but previously maxthon worked very well and was light and fast on the feet.
[00:06] <noah> anyone like hacking with ubuntu?
[00:06] <tomreyn> !ask | noah
[00:06] <loonoox> I'd like to ask for some help partionining a Win7+Ubuntu install on a PC with HDD+SSD
[00:08] <loonoox> Installing Win 7 first on the SSD. Then Ubuntu on the SSD. Thinking of putting / on SSD, /home on HDD and /swap on SSD
[00:08] <loonoox> Dunno if it's better to just put the whole of / and /swap on the SSD and then direct the Movies, Music etc folders to the HDD using Gnome Disks
[00:09] <Bashing-om> loonoox: Partitioning is a personal use case thing . You can get as may opinions as there are partitioners . What is the specific question you have ?
[00:10] <loonoox> I understand. I want to specifically ask whether it is ok to have /swap in the ssd and have a single / partition in the SSD and then just move around files to the HDD as required
[00:11] <Bashing-om> loonoox: Yeah, that sounds like a good plan to me . I too recently installed to SSD and I have /swap left on the SSD ( ram enough such that swap is not pounded ) .
[00:12] <loonoox> Great. I figured putting /home on the HDD would not be optimal as all the software and configs would go on there and slow the system down
[00:13] <tomreyn> the (packaged) software doesn't go to /home
[00:13] <tomreyn> you could symlink ~/.config to the SSD
[00:14] <tomreyn> and ~/.local
[00:14] <makoya> i need to implement a captive portal for my local wifi, what options does ubuntu have, i am assuming i have two network cards
[00:20] <Bray90820> So my CherryTrail surface 3 running ubuntu 16.10 freezes on high cpu load and I need to hard shutdown my system here are some error from when it froze while playing a bluray rip
[00:20] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw/sQJQHqyV
[00:21] <bekks> Bray90820: You're crossposting...
[00:23] <winterbear> Since I finally managed to have a working ubuntu install, I figured I might try to also have one with a more appropriate partitioning scheme. The installer does not seem to be able to deal with lvm's at all, how come? Or is something missing?
[00:24] <ramadhan> I have install ubuntu on /dev/sda3 can i move to sda4
[00:25] <Ben64> ramadhan: why
[00:26] <ChaiTRex> ramadhan: You can, but it's a bit messy.
[00:26] <tomreyn> winterbear: i think you can do it with the desktop installer when you choose manual partitioning
[00:27] <tomreyn> winterbear: you definitely can choose it with the server installer, and i think it will do it by default there, too.
[00:27] <winterbear> tomeryn: that's what I'm trying, but the installer seems incapable of doing anything lvm-related
[00:27] <winterbear> that is, I can choose the automatic lvm option, but not the manual one
[00:27] <tomreyn> which releasE?
[00:27] <bekks> winterbear: you can use the Ubuntu server ISO and setup LVM to your needs. And after first boot, you can install a full blown desktop with just one command.
[00:28] <winterbear> currently on daily x86_64 (but I also tried 16.04 and 16.10)
[00:28] <winterbear> bekks: I guess I'll try that
[00:31] <systemd0wn> Question, 16.04, any way to stop the annoying popup dialog telling me there are updates available?
[00:33] <ChaiTRex> systemd0wn: System Settings, Software and Updates, Updates tab.
[00:34] <systemd0wn> ChaiTRex: I saw that but "when there are security updates" only has three options and none of them are "leave me alone" :)
[00:35] <tomreyn> well you should not ignore security updates, that's why, i would guess.
[00:38] <noah> I never get the security update notifications... strange.
[00:38] <noah> I haven't updated either.
[00:55] <RPINerd> irc.freenode.net
[00:58] <sphrak> im having trouble with munin, the graphs never show up in the web interface. it looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/u3ByZHD.png im using nginx and spawn-fcgi since I want to use cgi for graphs. Any ideas? (ubuntu 16.04)
[00:58] <velus> daft question but can you have multiple desktop enviroments on a compter at once? i.e gnome, kde, etc
[01:01] <velus> that tobhonest looks more like a web problem than a ubuntu but i could be wrong
[01:01]  * bekti
[01:02] <velus> http://munin-monitoring.org/wiki/FAQ_no_graphs have you looked through this sphrak
[01:03] <bekti> #bekti
[01:03] <sphrak> velus: yes sir I did.. but to no help..
[01:04] <velus> is it single server setup or a multi server
[01:04] <sphrak> velus: its single server setup, the munin node is the same as munin master
[01:05] <velus> is the hostname correct acording to the config file?
[01:07] <sphrak> velus: what do you mean? correct in relation to what? :)
[01:08] <AppAraat> hi, suppose you have minimal install of Ubuntu. How do you install only MATE without any additional apps? For example with XFCE it's "sudo apt install xubuntu-core^"
[01:10] <velus> i.e if you do hostname on the server it would say the same thing exactly as on the config, so you would be able to telnet into the 4949 (standard port) for the server to get the stats
[01:11] <sphrak> velus: oh rigt, yes those are the same.
[01:11] <velus> i am asuming this is on an internal network and not on a main server
[01:12] <Bashing-om> !info mate-desktop
[01:12] <sphrak> velus: yes sir, it is
[01:12] <velus> is the hostname localhost.domain?
[01:12] <velus> or somthing a likt
[01:13] <sphrak> velus: no its aresfour :)
[01:14] <velus> and in your hosts file /etc/hosts do you have a loopback address to it i.e <IP_ADDRESS>    aresfour
[01:14] <sphrak> velus: Im getting these errors in nginx log: <IP_ADDRESS> - - [10/Nov/2016:02:05:37 +0100] "GET /munin-cgi/munin-cgi-graph/aresfour/aresfour/uptime-day.png HTTP/1.1" 404 5 "https://example.tld/munin/aresfour/aresfour/index.html" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0"
[01:15] <velus> pastbin it please
[01:15] <Bashing-om> AppAraat: This answer looks apt to what you ask : http://askubuntu.com/questions/180872/installing-mate-desktop-environment-without-installing-the-applications .
[01:15] <sphrak> velus: yes I have it in /etc/hosts
[01:16] <velus> can you pastbin the config and the hosts file
[01:16] <sphrak> velus: sure, both munin.conf and munin-node.conf?
[01:17] <velus> yes please
[01:17] <bofh_gang> hullow
[01:17] <AppAraat> Bashing-om: ah thanks a lot!
[01:18] <bofh_gang> what means unregged?
[01:18] <Bashing-om> AppAraat: Be aware .. a minimal core install is ONLY a booting kernel and a wired interface ability .  Because after finishing the netinstall I usually observed some extra packages being installed, not strictly only the kernel + wired interface.
[01:23] <velus> alanj__,
[01:24] <velus> sorry this laptop is going funny so switched over to other pc
[01:24] <igorchenko> hey lol, guys, I have a really good one...
[01:24] <Bashing-om> AppAraat: Well .. best I recall in the netinstall .. there is a extensive menu offered to what you may want to install by default .
[01:25] <igorchenko> ok, so you dress up like a girl. You go to a bar.  TROLLD!  I'm actually somewhat interested as to what exactly the most minimal configuration of ubuntu is.
[01:34] <sphrak> velus: did you get the configs?
[01:35] <alanj__> yes i did
[01:36] <sphrak> ah good
[01:36] <Bashing-om> AppAraat: My working very minimal install: http://termbin.com/1hws .
[01:36] <breezy_> Bashing-om: ChaiTRex , then why is it just "paused" here
[01:36] <breezy_> i have a black screen... nothing is running
[01:36] <breezy_> this is my FIRST time using Ubuntu server
[01:37] <alanj__> and sphrak try changing adrress to aresfour in the config  line 99 on main config
[01:37] <Bashing-om> breezy_: In that case think graphic's driver .. try and boot up with the 'nomodeset' boot parameter . Depending, is what is done next .
[01:38] <breezy_> how to do that>
[01:38] <sphrak> alanj__: you mean the localhost address?
[01:38] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | breezy_
[01:38] <AppAraat> Bashing-om: nice, do you have a GUI installed on it as well?
[01:38] <alanj__> where you have the ip address try it with aresfour
[01:39] <Bashing-om> AppAraat: I do have as xfce4 as on-demand . ( and as well there is google-chrome ) .
[01:40] <sphrak> alanj__: what do you mean?
[01:40] <sphrak> hostname instead of ipaddress?
[01:41] <breezy_> so i have to go into the bios?
[01:41] <breezy_> and then grub?
[01:41] <breezy_> i can't type in any commands ubottu
[01:42] <ChaiTRex> breezy_: Try pressing Ctrl+Alt+F2, then, if it's still blank, press Enter. If that doesn't work, try Ctrl+Alt+F7.
[01:42] <breezy_> ChaiTRex: im at the black screen pressing that and none of that is working
[01:42] <breezy_> should i be doing this upon reboot?
[01:44] <ChaiTRex> breezy_: Nope: it should work if the system has booted. Try the suggestion for nomodeset.
[01:44] <Bashing-om> breezy_: Boot to grub boot menu. 'e' key for edit mode -> boot parameter screen . arrow down to the line starting with linux, and across to "quiet splash" I suggest that you replace quiet splash with the term nomodeset. key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process . Now what results ? maybe all we have to do is install a graphic's driver .
[01:44] <alanj__> https://dpaste.de/Sfho
[01:44] <alanj__> yes
[01:44] <sphrak> alanj__: alright ive done that now
[01:44] <AppAraat> Bashing-om: cool. I am now trying out a minimal desktop. MATE + Kwin. As of now booted into MATE I'm using 188MB or RAM.
[01:45] <Bashing-om> AppAraat: :) .. all in what you make it ,... and as light it is extremely fast .
[01:46] <sphrak> alanj__: but it still produces the same symptom
[01:46] <alanj__> also try to telnet into it i.e using telnet connect to it i.e o aresfour 4949
[01:46] <breezy_> ChaiTRex: Bashing-om  None of that is working.... i can't type any keys at all...
[01:46] <breezy_> its just a black screen with that one line on it
[01:47] <sphrak> alanj__: yes telnetting/netcatting works as expected
[01:47] <breezy_> i tried ctl+x
[01:47] <alanj__> can i see a screen print of the telnet
[01:47] <sphrak> alanj__: I honestly think this is a webserver issue
[01:47] <sphrak> sure, one sec
[01:48] <Bashing-om> AppAraat: breezy_ What type system > efi ? Reboot, then as soon as the firmware screen clears spam the escape key to get grub's attention .
[01:48] <alanj__> also run this so i can see the debug of the system
[01:48] <breezy_> im on a laptop
[01:49] <breezy_> i installed from usb
[01:49] <breezy_> but i removed the USB now
[01:49] <sphrak> alanj__: https://dpaste.de/eVBX this is the output from telnet
[01:49] <breezy_> i installed it on my partition
[01:49] <breezy_> err, my hard drive
[01:49] <sphrak> alanj__: what kind of debug output?
[01:49] <breezy_> okay wait, i just plugged in my USB and now a bunch of code is running
[01:49] <alanj__> there should be some out put telling you what is hapening
[01:50] <sphrak> alanj__: yeah but from which log? there are several logs :-)
[01:50] <alanj__> in telnet can you type nodes and tell me if the reply is correct
[01:50] <breezy_> https://imgur.com/a/Prf4o
[01:51] <alanj__> it should show it on the screen
[01:51] <Bashing-om> breezy_: Right, and we want to see grub's ( GRand Unified Bootloader)  menu . ^^ now if this is a MBR (legacy ) system , it is the shift key that grub looks for.
[01:52] <alanj__> su -s /bin/bash munin $ /usr/share/munin/munin-update --debug --nofork --stdout --host aresfour --service df
[01:53] <alanj__> try that and it should give you some output
[01:53] <alanj__> on the screen
[01:53] <breezy_> Bashing-om: i press the shift key nothing happens
[01:53] <AppAraat> breezy_: so you plugged in that USB stick, tried to boot from it, and saw all those errors?
[01:53] <breezy_> no
[01:53] <breezy_> i started the system up with the USB, unplugged the usb and plugged it back in and saw those errors
[01:54] <breezy_> when i start the system up with no USB, i get ONE line on a black screen and im not able to type anything or press anything
[01:54] <alanj__>   /usr/share/munin/munin-update --debug --nofork --stdout --host aresfour --service df > /tmp/update.debug               that would write it to a file and not on the screen sphrak
[01:54] <breezy_> i took a udemy course on how to install
[01:54] <breezy_> so i followed his instructions but can't seem to get it to work
[01:55] <AppAraat> breezy_: ok, so your main goal is to install Ubuntu on your machine? Do you want it alongside your Windows install (dualboot) or as single install?
[01:55] <breezy_> single install
[01:56] <breezy_> i chose to install it as my hard drive
[01:56] <breezy_> I want ubuntu SERVER
[01:56] <breezy_> im installing ubuntu SERVER not ubuntu
[01:57] <sphrak> alanj__: https://dpaste.de/m2SJ this is the output I got
[01:57] <Bashing-om> breezy_: All the same ,, just the desktop and installed applications are the difference .
[01:57] <AppAraat> ok, so as Bashing-om said, you are looking for a dialog menu from your BIOS or UEFI (most likely UEFI) to which you can tell from which device you want to boot from. Getting to that menu differs from manufacturer, so you just have to try out some keys when you're booting your machine.
[01:58] <AppAraat> (or alternatively you can look up your manufacturer + boot menu on google)
[01:59] <AppAraat> breezy_: after you've located the menu (note: the USB stick has to be inserted prior) you just have to select your USB stick as boot device.
[01:59] <sphrak> alanj__: couldnt this have to do with the nginx config perhaps?
[02:00] <alanj__> you will need to add the other ip to the hosts file i just rembered that so your top two sections of the hosts should be <IP_ADDRESS>      aresfour localhost            /n <IP_ADDRESS>        aresfour localhost             /n ......
[02:00] <alanj__> sounds like its not finding it in the hosts
[02:00] <alanj__> once that is done do a $ /usr/share/munin/munin-update --nofork --debug and see what it says
[02:01] <breezy_> ok thanks bashing
[02:01] <breezy_> i will try
[02:02] <breezy_> Bashing-om: AppAraat you're saying i plug in the USB, select the USB as the boot device.... then i try to get into the grub menu???
[02:02] <AppAraat> yes
[02:02] <breezy_> im in the installer bootmenu now
[02:02] <breezy_> advanced options?
[02:02] <breezy_> or should i try typing something
[02:03] <AppAraat> no, just press "Install Ubuntu" or the sorts
[02:03] <breezy_> i already installed it though?
[02:03] <AppAraat> why would you want to install it again if you installed it?
[02:03] <Bashing-om> breezy_: Well. no .. let's not use the USB. At this time we are "assumming" that grub got installed properly to the hard drive, and in this install there is no access to a graphic's driver . We tell the system there is no driver and to use the fall back system driver with 'nomodeset" .
[02:04] <breezy_> Bashing-om: but i can't type anything.
[02:04] <breezy_> it was installed correctly
[02:05] <breezy_> AppAraat: i dont want to install it again.... i already installed it.... but when i boot up i get that one line "/dev/sda1: clean, 65844/44744704 files, 3165922/178977536 blocks"
[02:05] <breezy_> i can't type ANYTHING or go anywhere.
[02:05] <Bashing-om> breezy_: Then reboot, and in your bios set the hard drive as 1st boot priority, as soon as the bios screen clears hold a shift key , do you now get the grub boot menu ?
[02:06] <AppAraat> breezy_: oh ok I didn't know it was already installed, then follow Bashing-om's instructions
[02:06] <breezy_> i've tried rebooting without the USB i still get that one line
[02:06] <sphrak> alanj__: that doesnt seem right, aresfour will then point to both <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:07] <breezy_> my bios is set for it to run hard drive as 1st priority
[02:07] <breezy_> it says "dev/sda1: recovering journal"
[02:08] <breezy_> then dev/sda1: clean, 65844/44744704 files, 3165922/178977536 blocks
[02:08] <Bashing-om> breezy_: Well system has detected a problem, and is trying to fix ..let it run .
[02:08] <alanj__> yes can you try it see what happeneds
[02:09] <alanj__> cos it myight be trying to call one or the other
[02:09] <breezy_> https://imgur.com/a/8vkIl
[02:09] <breezy_> you're saying i should just let it run
[02:09] <breezy_> for how long approxiamtely? last time i gave it 10mins
[02:10] <alanj__> ok just noticed your originally running aresfour on <IP_ADDRESS> have you set that in your system properly
[02:11] <sphrak> alanj__: hosts file is default, but I also noticed that..
[02:12] <alanj__> ifconfig lo:0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> up that will set the ipaddress properly if you want it on another loopback than the <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:12] <Bashing-om> !sysrq | breezy_
[02:13] <Snarky> hallo.
[02:13] <breezy_> Bashing-om: that sysrq doesnt work
[02:14] <breezy_> oh!!!
[02:14] <breezy_> i dont know what it was but when i put alt+printscreen now i get the login !!!
[02:14] <Snarky> any tips for ubuntu? just installed it and still a newbee here.
[02:14] <Bashing-om> breezy_: In my experience, it has never ever failed inless the system was so messed up that there was no hope for the install . I do not think this is your case of a messed up install .
[02:15] <breezy_> i mean it works now
[02:15] <cfhowlett> !manual Snarky  read
[02:15] <breezy_> not sure what i did
[02:15] <cfhowlett> !manual | Snarky
[02:15] <cfhowlett> !fcm | snarky
[02:15] <chelios> !sysrq
[02:15] <breezy_> ubottu: i think it was the alt+printscreen
[02:16] <breezy_> ubottu: are u rly
[02:16] <bazhang> breezy_, /msg the bot
[02:17] <Bashing-om> breezy_: "i mean it works now" ??? .. such that you are booting now to terminal ? or what ???
[02:17] <Snarky> thanks cfhowlett. reading those things now.
[02:18] <cfhowlett> happy2help! snarky and welcome.  also see the ubuntuforums and /ubuntu
[02:18] <alanj__> have you tried it yet? with either the spelling mistake or adding the ip to the rules ??? sphrak
[02:18] <breezy_> Bashing-om: https://imgur.com/a/BbhBs i have this screen now
[02:18] <breezy_> before i couldnt even type anything
[02:18] <breezy_> i think it was the alt+printscreen
[02:19] <breezy_> but it could be your suggestion of typing in !sysreq
[02:19] <breezy_> or maybe i just gave it time?
[02:20] <Bashing-om> breezy_: Yepper, you are booted ! .. You said that you installed a server . now tell the system what you want of it . there is NO gui in a server install .
[02:20] <sphrak> alanj__: I found something strange.. there is no plugins in /etc/munin/plugins/ hmmm which explains why there is no jobs for the hostname
[02:20] <breezy_> yes i understand that bashing
[02:21] <breezy_> im actually taking a course on udemy about UbuntuServer... so im trying to follow along
[02:21] <breezy_> but got an error along the way and for some reason wasnt able to bypass
[02:21] <breezy_> what do u think the problem was in case i encounter this again?
[02:21] <breezy_> Very much appreciate your help btw Bashing, ubottu evveryone
[02:22] <alanj__> ok what was the output after the fix
[02:23] <Bashing-om> breezy_: Take exterme care in following old documentation .. with 16.04 + all old documentation may no longer apply . What release have you installed ' lsb_release -a ' to know ?
[02:23] <sphrak> I havent done it yet.. im checking why there is no plugins .. hold on
[02:23] <breezy_> 16.04
[02:23] <breezy_> 16.04.1 LTS
[02:23] <breezy_> was there a big change in documentaiton from 14 to 16?
[02:24] <Bashing-om> breezy_: K; 16.04 is systemd .. older docs will be for upstart . take care to understand the difference .
[02:24] <alanj__> ok
[02:25] <breezy_> systemd and upstart are completley diff?
[02:26] <kk4ewt> yes
[02:26] <alanj__> is it no plugins?
[02:27] <sphrak> alanj__: the /etc/munin/plugins directory is empty
[02:27] <cfhowlett> breezy_, they are so different that you would be well advised to stop doing what you're doing and go read up before proceeding.  also, see the #ubuntu-server channel for more focused advice.
[02:28] <sphrak> alanj__: I think I should try to reinstall it..
[02:29] <alanj__> ok backup your configs
[02:32] <sphrak> alanj__: how would I reconfigure the munin package?
[02:32] <alanj__> how do you mean?
[02:33] <sphrak> well I tried uninstall, and install again - but there is still no plugins in /etc/munin/plugins/
[02:33] <alanj__> when i installed it (just to play with it a while back) i just did aptitude install munin-? which installed them all which was ok
[02:33] <alanj__> one sec my system is rebooting again
[02:33] <sphrak> ah okey testing
[02:38] <alanj__> ok i have screwed up my harddrive again lol its ok i have a new one
[02:39] <sphrak> lol
[02:40] <sphrak> alanj__: munin-node-configure --shell --suggest is suppose to create the symlinks but they dont :s
[02:41] <alanj__> im not sure why what version you using
[02:44] <sphrak> alanj__: v2.0.25
[02:47] <sphrak> alanj__: I think i fixed it now
[02:48] <sphrak> gonna wait till munin is updated tho
[02:48] <alanj__> ok
[02:48] <alanj__> im trying out the win version soon
[02:49] <sphrak> win version?
[02:51] <sphrak> alanj__: fuck yes got myself some graphs now FINALLY :D
[02:51] <sphrak> thank you so much for the help buddy
[02:51] <cfhowlett> language!! sphrak this is a family friendly channel.  please moderate your language.  thank you.
[02:51] <alanj__> YOUR WELCOME JUST GLAD I CAN HELP
[02:52] <sphrak> cfhowlett: oh sorry, got really excited its all
[02:52] <enma> i'm child broo hehehe
[02:52] <Snarky> guys, question about software and updates.
[02:52] <enma> :D
[02:52] <cfhowlett> Snarky, ask.
[02:53] <Snarky> I have this pending additional driver that says "unknown:unknown from intel since I'm using an intel CPU, should I install it?
[02:54] <Bashing-om> Snarky: "firmware"  in the name ?
[02:54] <Jordan_U> Snarky: It doesn't say anything about microcode?
[02:54] <Snarky> Basing-om: it says firmware
[02:54] <Snarky> Jordan_U: it says microcode in the description.
[02:57] <Bashing-om> Snarky: We are not looking over your shoulder . but this  in terminal ' apt show intel-microcode ' . Is this what you are looking at ?
[02:57] <Jordan_U> Snarky: Then yes, install that. It's an update to the code that runs the CPU itself. It's proprietary, but so is the code that is permanently flashed into the CPU so you might as well run updated proprietary microcode rather than out of date proprietary microcode.
[02:58] <Snarky> Bashing-om: just a sec, Novice here. let me try that.
[03:00] <Snarky> @Jordan_U: Thank you, I will install it now. I understand it as well.
[03:01] <roylaprattep> http://pastebin.com/T4Rtz4DL
[03:01] <Snarky> @Bashing-om: Well, I was using the software & update feature in ubuntu, I was updating the OS and I encountered the additional drivers tab and saw there was one detected. I'm not sure of the detected driver because it stated that "this device is not working".
[03:01] <roylaprattep> Someone can help me with that? I get "connection to storage server failed" when trying to log on roundcube
[03:02] <roylaprattep> and I have this error, pastebin, in my syslog
[03:02] <Snarky> be right back, need to reboot my computer.
[03:02] <Jordan_U> Snarky: The "this device is not working" message is incorrect. It's there because the developers weren't thinking of microcode when they made the message.
[03:02] <Snarky> @Jordan_U: understood, I will be right back, need to reboot first. Thank you.
[03:04] <Snarky> i'm back
[03:05] <BabaInkra> hello, what is topic today?
[03:05] <alanj__> sphrak,  when your redy to try again i shhould be about
[03:07] <artienne> hey guys, does anyone have any information about why some process on ubuntu 16.10 keeps trying to connect to localhost:4101?
[03:07] <artienne> even on a completely clean install with no changes
[03:10] <artienne> lsof -i :4101 shows nothing (presumably because no connection is actually made), nethogs can determine that it's from root, but can't determine the program causing it
[03:11] <artienne> nothing listens on localhost:4101, wireshark reports that a rst, ack packet is returned to the port that sent the syn packet, at which point another syn packet is sent from a new port number (in increments of 4)
[03:12] <artienne> both ipv4 and ipv6, but only sending tcp packets
[03:17] <Snarky> Jordan_U: can you suggest me on how to change the theme of the ubuntu? I already installed unity tweaked tool.
[03:20] <enma> snarky: noobslab.com , try open it.
[03:21] <enma> many themes for ubuntu in there
[03:22] <winterbear> I ended up doing manual partitioning with gparted and {pv,vg,lv}create + mkfs from the desktop livecd. The installer crashes when trying to mkswap on the lv swap partition, so I had to mark it as unused. Will this make any difference outside of fstab and GRUB_CMDLINE_DEFAULT options?
[03:22] <Snarky> enma: thanks, will check it now.
[03:22] <catbeard> are there any environment variables in the /etc/network/if-up.d/ scripts that i can use to identify the interface?
[03:23] <winterbear> I ended up doing manual partitioning with gparted and {pv,vg,lv}create + mkfs from the desktop livecd. The installer crashes when trying to mkswap on the lv swap partition, so I had to mark it as unused. Will this make any difference outside of fstab and GRUB_CMDLINE_DEFAULT options?
[03:24] <winterbear> Welp, the installer just crashed as I posted this. It failed to install the grub efi on /target/ and then "installer crashed".
[03:24] <winterbear> Looks like even manual partitioning will let the installer not blow up...
[03:24] <winterbear> I'm honestly amazed this ever got released
[03:25] <Kurogane> Hello, how i can stop mysql? i did /etc/init.d/mysql stop, systemctl stop mysql, systemctl stop mysql.service, not matter what command i do i can't stop mysql. Ubuntu 16.04
[03:28] <akens> sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop ?
[03:29] <karstensrage> service mysqld stop?
[03:32] <Bashing-om> Kurogane: 16.04/10 ? then try as ' sudo systemctl stop mysql.service ' ?
[03:33] <Kurogane> did you read what command i post? i try all of them and not work
[03:35] <Bashing-om> Kurogane: quilty as charged . maybe find the correct system name - as the system knows it - for the mysql package ??
[03:40] <Kurogane> well fixed rebooting the server, and try again  now give me this. http://paste.ee/p/sPAzF
[03:42] <winterbear> If you can repeat the problem, then you could try using upstart to see if the problem persists, then report the bug appropriately.
[03:48] <Kurogane> i'm not really sure, i install mariadb and dunno why i have debian config? this is what i have when i reboot the server http://paste.ee/p/LDbBG
[03:50] <Snarky> I can't seem to install the themes from noobslab using the terminal, any suggestions?.
[03:56] <Bashing-om> Kurogane: An upgrade to 16.04 ? then -> Server will fail to start, causing upgrade/installation of MySQL to fail. See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.7/+bug/1571865 .
[04:02] <phiona> we replaced the casing of our pc and now when i try to access vbox i get this error.  https://paste.ubuntu.com/23454141/. what should i do now?
[04:03] <Kurogane> Ok i "fixed" the issue, because i setup root password the config /etc/mysql/debian.cnf have a empy password, i'm not sure if i did bad, how you change mysql password?
[04:06] <jmadero> Kurogane: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/resetting-permissions.html
[04:06] <jmadero> when google can answer the question in <4 seconds, usually better to just google it
[04:06] <BenderRodriguez> I have a broken package I am unable to remove via apt
[04:06] <BenderRodriguez> what do I do
[04:07] <jmadero> BenderRodriguez: what is the package and what is the error
[04:07] <jmadero> pastebin please
[04:14] <Kurogane> jmadero, i think you not understand the problem
[04:16] <BenderRodriguez> jmadero: http://termbin.com/g3nl
[04:25] <BenderRodriguez> WELL
[04:26] <jmadero> all caps is a nice solid way to get zero assistance
[04:26] <jmadero> as if I work for you or something
[04:26] <BenderRodriguez> hey
[04:26] <BenderRodriguez> I'm going to ask you to calm down and relax
[04:26] <BenderRodriguez> it was an accident
[04:28] <jmadero> seriously 5 second google search - did you try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/760724/16-04-upgrade-broke-mysql-server
[04:29] <cmdew> Hey, so why is my ubuntu software sucking so bad? Doesnt load any searches at all.
[04:29] <jmadero> cmdew: I've never liked ubuntu software center, I use synaptic still
[04:29] <cmdew> I'm new-ish to ubuntu so i really dont know what that is :|
[04:29] <cmdew> Can i dl it?
[04:29] <jmadero> terminal "sudo apt-get install synaptic"
[04:30] <cmdew> Gracias.
[04:30] <jmadero> sure
[04:30] <jmadero> if ubuntu software center is empty you might just need to refresh
[04:30] <jmadero> sudo apt-get update
[04:30] <cmdew> I'll try that as well
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> cmdew: wich ubuntu version are you on>?
[04:31] <cmdew> lotuspsychje: latest
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> cmdew: ubuntu software on 16.04 and higher should be fast as rocket...
[04:31] <cmdew> lotuspsychje: it's hanging up for some reason
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> cmdew: after doing what?
[04:32] <BenderRodriguez> jmadero: you were very mean and unhlpeful
[04:32] <cmdew> lotuspsychje: i have been doing quite a bit of terminal work, i may have messed something up along the way recently
[04:32] <BenderRodriguez> I will give you 1 star for your assitance
[04:32] <cmdew> BenderRodriguez: You should stop while you're ahead
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> cmdew: did you add ppa's of any kind perhaps?
[04:33] <cmdew> lotuspsychje: not that i recall :/
[04:33] <BenderRodriguez> cmdew: ahead in?
[04:33] <cmdew> BenderRodriguez: talking shit.
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> !language | cmdew
[04:33] <cmdew> Sorry :/
[04:34] <cmdew> ahh
[04:35] <cmdew> i did fiddle around with adding some repos
[04:35] <cmdew> at the beginning of setting up ubuntu for the first time
[04:35] <cmdew> using some outdated info
[04:35] <amber_> why does it take 18 years to open a link from my irc client to chromium
[04:36] <b-yeezi> Hello all, what is it called when you make a local mirror of the apt repositories for use on your LAN?
[04:36] <cmdew> which client
[04:36] <amber_> hexchat
[04:36] <cmdew> amber_: chromium :)
[04:38] <BenderRodriguez> cmdew: you need to watch your mouth. this is a family channel
[04:38] <cmdew> BenderRodriguez: already got called out on it. thank you.
[04:39] <cmdew> jmadero: How does one use the Synaptic Pkg Mgr?
[04:39] <b-yeezi> Nevermind I found it. apt-mirror
[04:39] <b-yeezi> duh
[04:42] <Bray90820> So my CherryTrail surface 3 running ubuntu 16.10 freezes on high cpu load and I need to hard shutdown my system here are some error from when it froze while playing a bluray rip
[04:42] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw/sQJQHqyV
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> Bray90820: got the right drivers for grafix card?
[04:44] <Bray90820> I think I do Could I check it tho?
[04:44] <Bray90820> lotuspsychje:
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> Bray90820: sudo lshw -C video
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> Bray90820: behind driver= at bottom
[04:46] <ibyu> hey
[04:47] <ibyu> anyone in here know about creating a bootable usb for a machine with no os
[04:48] <Bashing-om> ibyu: What is the real question ?
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> ibyu: you wanna make an usb with ubuntu without an operatin system?
[04:50] <ibyu> I'm trying to load Ubuntu 12.01 onto my Dell desktop
[04:50] <ibyu> with a bootable USB drive
[04:50] <ibyu> and it continues to freeze
[04:50] <ibyu> when I try to boot.
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> ibyu: maybe your dell needs a big lighter, did you try lubuntu?
[04:52] <ibyu> havent tried anything but ubuntu yet, let me give that a try
[04:52] <ibyu> i am using unetbootin to create the bootable usb on my mac
[04:53] <ibyu> then im inserting it into the dell
[04:53] <ibyu> when i bootup, i press f12
[04:53] <ibyu> i have already set USB as the primary launch option
[04:53] <ibyu> then when I go to boot, it goes to unetbootin menu
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> ibyu: you sure your stick is made properly? unetbootin in some cases doesnt load ubuntu
[04:55] <ibyu> so many lubuntu will work... lets see
[04:55] <ibyu> thanks!
[04:55] <Bray90820> lotuspsychje: Not really sure?
[04:55] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw/mr5aBuYu
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> Bray90820: ok, intel graphics it is..driver seems loaded correclty, what program you using for the brrip?
[04:57] <ibyu> could it be that the .iso I have been using is for MacOS's?
[04:57] <Bray90820> lotuspsychje: I don't think the blurry rip is the issue I think it's the high CPU load because when I did a stress test it hung as well
[04:57] <ibyu> I downloaded the Ubuntu.iso for 64-bit mac
[04:57] <Bray90820> But to answer your question the default one
[04:58] <ibyu> and im using it in the unetbootin
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> Bray90820: try vlc and smplayer please, and open up a tail -f /var/log/syslog to check whats going on
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> !usb | ibyu
[04:59] <Bray90820> lotuspsychje: i know VLC doesn't hang as much but it does hang
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> Bray90820: did you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed, so we sure its not a codec bottleneck?
[05:02] <Bray90820> lotuspsychje: I am sure it's not a codec issue because it did this with youtube and a CPU stress test
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> Bray90820: i would go for a deeper log investigation, to see whats going on at freeze times
[05:03] <Bray90820> The first pastebin I sent was from dmesg
[05:13] <ibyu> Same thing happens when I create unetbootin for lubuntu and attempt to install - if I press install in unetbootin menu the console freezes and if I press run boot from first hard disk it runs some lines of code and then comes to "BIOS EDD facility v0.16 2004-Jun-25, 0 devices found" and then "EDD information not available" . PLEASE HELP. I've spent 4 hours and counting on this now.
[05:14] <zzj> Ubuntu更新完NVIDIA驱动后，重启电脑进入不了系统，一直处于登录界面
[05:14] <zzj> Ubuntu update after the NVIDIA driver, restart the computer can not enter the system, has been at the login screen
[05:14] <zzj> ,who can help me!
[05:16] <cfhowlett> !cn | zzj
[05:22] <Bashing-om> zzj: Try and boot with the 'nomodeset' boot parameter from the grub menu . Can you boot to the desktop (degraded graphics here is acceptable ) ?
[05:36] <gnmk> Hi
[05:37] <gnmk> question about logroate ,
[05:37] <gnmk> logrotat is not happening and the root cause is /var/lib/logrotate/status file is currupted ?
[05:38] <gnmk> any idea why?
[05:38] <davido> what does the corruption look like?
[05:39] <gnmk> its looks like head of file where Logroate version information is there is getting deleted , so without that logrotate throw the error file corrupted ?
[05:41] <gnmk> this line "logrotate state -- version 2" gets deleted .
[05:42] <davido> I'm not sure what writes to it.  You could set up a cron that checks validity of the file periodically, saving it to a backup if it's in a good state, and then copying the backup back over the original target when the cron detects corruption.  Kind of a kludge, but unless you know who is writing to the file without flocking, you're kinda stuck.
[05:42] <davido> what kernel version are you running?
[05:42] <gnmk> Yep. Is it safe to delete file in every run ?
[05:43] <davido> I didn't suggest deleting it.
[05:43] <gnmk> Its Ubuntu container (lxc) on Yocto .
[05:45] <davido> I ask because if you're seeing corruption in that file, it probably means logrotate isn't flocking it, or someone's pulling the plug mid-write.
[05:46] <davido> the first would represent a bug in logrotate, the second would represent a bug in user behavior, or in the automation that spins up and tears down your container.
[05:47] <davido> solving what's causing the corruption is the interesting problem.
[05:48] <gnmk> davido: Yep, that is where I was stuck, have looked script, so no issue there.
[05:49] <gnmk> Is there any possibility if one instance is running and another may run and can cause issue ?
[05:49] <davido> gnmk: If that is a possibility then it's a bug in logrotate.
[05:49] <davido> It should be flocking (file locking) before writing a file.
[05:50] <davido> what do you get when you type logrotate --version ?
[05:50] <gnmk> May be flocking for the *.logs file but not for /var/lib/logrotate/status file?
[05:55] <davido> gnmk : https://github.com/logrotate/logrotate/issues/45
[05:56] <davido> Sounds like it's a known issue with logrotate.  That's unfortunate.  Brings us back to the notion of setting up a cron to babysit the file, and then repair it when corruption is detected, until a proper bugfix rolls out.
[05:57] <davido> I had to set up something similar to monitor for corruption in httpd.conf across thousands of servers once, until we were able to narrow down what code was running at the time, creating whatever race condition was corrupting the file.  anyway, it's doable. Kludgy, but effective.
[06:05] <gnmk> davido: Thanks much, Is there anyway to check corruption of file , or I just need to get return status of logrotate and correct status file.
[06:18] <igorchenko> today is a good day to die.  I am going to ban you. Behave yourself.
[06:26] <igorchenko> please.
[06:27] <igorchenko> last warning cfhowlett
[06:27] <cfhowlett> actually you're not as you're not a mod.  welcome to /ignore
[06:28] <igorchenko> cfhowlett can not even have the most basics of manners. rm -fr cfhowlett
[06:30] <Tex_Nick> igorchenko: try to help solve problems, instead of being a problem :-)
[06:30] <hechong> thats right!
[06:33] <igorchenko> Tex_Nick: my contact with reality is foobar and my cognition and personality is decaying, I'm in that dark spiral down. Everything was fine _W_ started to harass me and my family.  Here's a success and failed output from xev. In the successful case i'm seeing KeymapNotify events. What are these events, and what causes them not to fire sometimes?
[06:40] <sabrehagen> https://gist.github.com/sabrehagen/b86d9c20ee7d0cc8b2b6ec25fe05ac29
[06:40] <igorchenko> Tex_Nick: that's not a very reliable formula. I can give you countless of counter-examples.
[06:41] <Tex_Nick> igorchenko: for once in your life try being nice, you might see people being nice back to you ;-)
[06:41] <igorchenko> but I'm in it for the fight
[06:41] <igorchenko> for the drama, for the hate
[06:43] <cfhowlett> for the benefit of all: if you are in hexchat, the command is /ignore rudeperson, e.g. /ignore igorchenko
[06:43] <Tex_Nick> igorchenko: it brings tears to my eyes, knowing that you have a long miserable life ahead of you :(
[06:45] <Tex_Nick> cfhowlett: a n op needs to deal with this ?
[06:45] <cfhowlett> !ops | igorchenko disrupting and profanity.  ban requested
[06:47] <cfhowlett> Tex_Nick, meanwhile, best policy is to ignore trolls.  lack of attention kills them
[06:49] <TheNH813> Who killed VesTIge from LMMS? I'm reading all over the wiki and it says it should show up in plugins.
[06:49] <igorchenko> Tex_Nick: women < men
[06:50] <Tex_Nick> cfhowlett: agreed Sir ... i'll mention it in OT, i think there are some ops there now
[06:50] <igorchenko> it's a fact ,deal with it
[06:50] <TheNH813> But, it's not there. I can't locate the VSTi plugin host in apt.
[06:50] <igorchenko> I suggest you put Tex_Nick on ignore, he's just a troll
[06:51] <cfhowlett> TheNH813, better asked of the package maintainers than here.  apt show lmms will give you the contact ifo
[06:51] <cfhowlett> *info*
[06:51] <TheNH813> I intended to use some of the standalone versions of Image Lines's synths, and I used to be able to just fine. Did someone disable the VST/VSTi host in LMMS when they built the .deb?
[06:51] <TheNH813> Ah, ok.
[06:51] <FireStriker> Hey i have a pentium dual core T2390 1.86/1.87 GHz 2gb ram toshiba laptop that i am thinking of full on switching to linux. I want to know how well ubuntu will work on it compared to Lubuntu which i have been dual booting this last month as well
[06:52] <FireStriker> I want to know how well ubuntu will work on it compared to Lubuntu which i have been dual booting this last month
[06:52] <cfhowlett> FireStriker, 2 gigs of ram?  technically possible but not near so speedy
[06:52] <TheNH813> I'd reccommend Xubuntu or Lubuntu if you switch. Unity will be a bit too much
[06:52] <cfhowlett> Xubuntu +1
[06:53] <cfhowlett> FireStriker, easy to test: sudo apt install xfce4        then logout, choose your session/Desktop environment and login
[06:53] <cfhowlett> not that this will give you the desktop environment ONLY - not the xubuntu apps
[06:54] <FireStriker> Whats the diffence between Xubuntu and Lubuntu?
[06:54] <cfhowlett> apps and DE same as with all *buntus
[06:54] <TheNH813> They use a different desktop enviroment. They basically just have a slightly diffferent theme
[06:55] <TheNH813> And they uss less RAM and graphical processing power then plain Ubuntu
[06:55] <FireStriker> Im also doing this as the drivers are impostable to find and Lubuntu found it when it installed right out of the gate
[06:56] <TheNH813> That's one of the benefits of switching to a Ubuntu based, or any for that matter, Linux distro. Great hardware support.
[06:56] <TheNH813> Lubuntu should definitely run fine with thsoe specs.
[06:57] <TheNH813> If your laptop has replacable RAM, you may wish to upgrade to 4GB in the future though. Not necessary, but it'd increase performance a bit.
[06:57] <FireStriker> Oh btw is there anyway to change the grub so it boots unto windows insted of ubuntu in a dual boot, i have enther computer that i am thinking of dual booting and during this test month thats the only thing thats bugged me
[06:57] <FireStriker> It only suports 2gb
[06:57] <TheNH813> Yes.
[06:58] <TheNH813> Give me one second
[06:58] <FireStriker> I upgared it by 1 a month ago
[06:58] <hateball> FireStriker: You can configure grub to save your last boot as default
[06:58] <FireStriker> Coool
[06:58] <LOokatME> Hye
[06:58] <LOokatME> PLease help me
[06:58] <TheNH813> sudo grub-set-default <number>
[06:58] <LOokatME> Im new to ubuntu and am having trouble
[06:58] <cfhowlett> !ask | LOokatME
[06:58] <TheNH813> where <number> is the place it's on the list
[06:59] <LOokatME> IN the software app, ubuntu software
[06:59] <LOokatME> i searched for chrome, and other apps
[06:59] <LOokatME> It didn't show up
[06:59] <TheNH813> You need Google Chrome
[06:59] <LOokatME> im using 16.04
[06:59] <TheNH813> ?
[06:59] <TheNH813> OR regular chrome?
[07:00] <LOokatME> Also im using ubuntu on a bootup usb, whenever i shut it down, and then boot it up, it doesn't remember my acount, it logs in automaticly and starts fresh
[07:00] <LOokatME> Also im using ubuntu on a bootup usb, whenever i shut it down, and then boot it up, it doesn't remember my acount, it logs in automaticly and starts fresh
[07:00] <FireStriker> Chroma
[07:00] <FireStriker> Stupid ipad lol
[07:00] <cfhowlett> LOokatME, usb is not a persistent environment so it will not remember
[07:00] <TheNH813> LOokatME: You need persistance to save files, unless you install it.
[07:01] <LOokatME> WHat is persistance
[07:01] <LOokatME> How can i make it so it saves files
[07:01] <cfhowlett> !persistence | LOokatME
[07:01] <LOokatME> and my data
[07:01] <LOokatME> IM using an usb how i make it persistant
[07:01] <cfhowlett> LOokatME, read the wiki link.
[07:01] <TheNH813> Follow the link that ubottu sent.
[07:01] <LOokatME> ok
[07:02] <LOokatME> also guys you know the software app
[07:02] <LOokatME> it isn't letting me search for things like flash on it, it says no app found
[07:02] <TheNH813> Do you want a link to Google Chrome's installer, As I assume that's what you want?
[07:02] <LOokatME> and i watched a video that you could install flash in the software centre
[07:02] <TheNH813> Chrome has flash built in if you need it.
[07:02] <LOokatME> THeNH813 no i don't just want chrome, i want to install apps in the software centre to work
[07:02] <cfhowlett> LOokatME, dude.  STOP hitting the enter key!  put all of your output in one line.  thank you.
[07:03] <TheNH813> Open a terminal (press ctrl+alt+t) and type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" without the quotes. That's install flash.
[07:04] <TheNH813> And other plugins you may need. But untill you create persistance and reboot, it won't save and will need to be redone each live startup off  the USB.
[07:05] <TheNH813> Alternatively, install it to a USB HDD if you don't want to install it to your computer.
[07:06] <LOokatME> TheNH813 GO in the chat where it is just me and you
[07:06] <LOokatME> so i can see the chat more clearly
[07:06] <TheNH813> Will do.
[07:36] <markholmes> hello all, first-time ubuntu user
[07:37] <FireStriker> Hi welcome to ubuntu
[07:37] <markholmes> quick question (the first of many, i'm sure) - what vim package do i install? there's like 10 of them, and i don't know where to find the difference between any of them
[07:38] <FireStriker> Im farly new only been useing lubuntu for a month
[07:39] <alkisg> markholmes: there's a preinstalled editor called nano, it's fine if you don't specifically need vi
[07:40] <hateball> markholmes: vim is vim. the other packages are various addons etc
[07:40] <FireStriker> Vim?
[07:41] <hateball> markholmes: to show more info about the packages "apt show vim" or "apt show vim-gtk" etc
[07:44] <Mava> hmm, what might be the issue: trying to get better resolution from my laptop mini-display-port. at the moment this 1280x800 is quite large on a 30" screen....
[07:45] <FireStriker> Whats vim?
[07:46] <Mava> FireStriker: how can I find it ?
[07:47] <hateball> !info vim | FireStriker
[07:47] <FireStriker> Thanks
[07:49] <markholmes> okay, thanks all
[07:52] <TheNH813> Is my internet still up? A was helping someone else and they went offline. Want to make sure it's not my conenction.
[07:53] <Flannel> TheNH813: No, the internet is down.
[07:53] <TheNH813> LOL thanks. Seems to be working if that message sent. Thanks
[07:58] <jero-> lol
[07:59] <|T||R||U||M||P|> Hooray for Trump and horray for America
[08:00] <FireStriker> Is the guys i was talking to earlyer about which version of ubuntu will work the best
[08:01] <FireStriker> If not my specs are a pentium dual core T2390 1.86/7 GHz with 2 gb of ram
[08:02] <FireStriker> Its an old toshiba laptop from 2007/8
[08:02] <EriC^^> itll work
[08:04] <FireStriker> Do the desktop envromnents determen how much ram it uses?
[08:05] <EriC^^> yeah
[08:06] <FireStriker> Ok that makes it easy to swicht to a diffenced ubuntu flavoer if ubuntu doesnt run too well
[08:06] <VoteTrump2016> i told you trump would win
[08:06] <Mika_> Can i backup only one folder with deja-dup. Im using ssh (no graphics). i did now deja-dup --backup, but later i would want to do just "deja-dup --backup <folderName>"
[08:06] <VoteTrump2016> WATCH OUT ILLEGAL ALIENS IN AMERICA TRUMP IS GONNA ROUND YOU UP AND DEPORT YOU!
[08:07] <FireStriker> Also i used ubuntu on a diffenet computer
[08:08] <jpvgnu> Hi there. I need to know why when add a new user from command line
[08:08] <yigal> Mika_: from https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/deja-dup/ why are you using it for a backup utility?
[08:08] <EriC^^> why when or how?
[08:09] <FireStriker> How come when i click on a .run or a file/scrip in lubuntu it gives me the option tonrun it but in ubuntu it just opens it in an editer
[08:09] <jpvgnu> and after tried access to it, only appear "$"
[08:09] <yigal> jpvgnu: what command are you using to add a new user?
[08:09] <antonin> Hello, i'm a noob on ubuntu (installed it recently)... i realized my audio is in lower quality now, is there a way to fix this ? I didn't find this issue in the online documentation
[08:09] <jpvgnu> yigal: useradd -m user
[08:10] <EriC^^> jpvgnu: how are accessing it?
[08:10] <jpvgnu> su user
[08:11] <yigal> jpvgnu: that's giving the default bash prompt?
[08:11] <yigal> jpvgnu: what more do you want?
[08:11] <jpvgnu> repeat, that when i tried to access only appear: $
[08:11] <yigal> jpvgnu: that's the default bash prompt
[08:13] <jpvgnu_> for example: my normal command line appear: samadhi@ubuntu:~$
[08:14] <Mika_> yigal: im using it for back up because its back up tool?
[08:14] <jpvgnu_> and when tried access to another user only appear: $
[08:14] <jpvgnu_> without user@system:¬
[08:15] <ikevin> jpvgnu_, i'm not sure that useradd will copy content from /etc/skel/ to the new user home dir
[08:15] <ikevin> and in this case, you don't have the ~/.bashrc
[08:15] <ikevin> try using adduser instead
[08:15] <yigal> jpvgnu_: what does -m do, looking at http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man8/adduser.8.html likely you shouldn't be using it
[08:16] <FireStriker> I have a question/ problmen i have used both ubuntu and lubuntu. When i try to run a .run or a scrip on Lubuntu it gives me the option to run it or edited it, On Ubuntu it just opens it in an editer with no oprion to run it.
[08:16] <FireStriker> Whys that?
[08:17] <ikevin> FireStriker, does the .run have +x permission?
[08:17] <yigal> FireStriker: because by default the execution permission on a script isn't active
[08:18] <yigal> as ikevin stated +x is usually not something enabled by defult
[08:18] <FireStriker> Ths same .run on both ubuntu and lubnut
[08:18] <FireStriker> Lubuntu
[08:18] <FireStriker> Idk
[08:18] <yigal> FireStriker: ls -l <file> # what's the output on the file?
[08:20] <FireStriker> Idk just wanting to know whats the difence between lubuntu and ubuntu that causes that unwaned problem of not geting the option to run it with out use of typeing something in the termanle
[08:21] <yigal> FireStriker: then ask in #lubuntu
[08:21] <jpvgnu_> the same problem when tried change the user, only appear the symbol "$" when normally appear:user@system:¬$
[08:21] <TheNH813> Wow. I'm shocked by how much faster Ubuntu runs after switching to Cinnamon. It feels like I upgraded my hardware.
[08:21] <FireStriker> Cinnamon?
[08:22] <jpvgnu_> I put useradd newuser, su newuser
[08:22] <yigal> jpeura: this has to do with the PS1 variable, you'll want to set it to whatever you desire
[08:22] <TheNH813> FireStriker: Cinnamon is a desktop like XFCE or LXDE. Essentially a theme and desktop system.
[08:22] <jpvgnu_> only jump the line, and appear "$"
[08:22] <yigal> jpvgnu_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizingBashPrompt
[08:22] <FireStriker> Ok
[08:22] <ikevin> jpvgnu_, try adduser instead of useradd
[08:23] <yigal> jpvgnu_: yes adduser will provide the default ubuntu settings for new users
[08:23] <ducasse> jpvgnu_: it's because you have no bash startup files for that user that configures the prompt. try copying them from /etc/skel.
[08:23] <yigal> so boring
[08:24] <TheNH813> I love Unity, but I didn't realize it was slowing my applications down so much. :D (Also if anyone wants to know I fixed LMMS that I asked about earlier. Nothing that buildin't fron source can't fix. :P)
[08:24] <yigal> TheNH813: use Gentoo
[08:24] <for{}> TheNH813, cpu, ram?
[08:26] <jpvgnu_> thank you only was necessary change useradd for adduser
[08:26] <RatchetTheGamer> What file manger does ubuntu use?
[08:27] <for{}> nautilus
[08:27] <for{}> i installed pcmanfm
[08:28] <for{}> does anyone here use a cli fm?
[08:28] <chu> Yes.
[08:28] <for{}> what is its name?
[08:29] <chu> If we have this discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic I will tell you.
[08:29] <for{}> are you there too?
[08:29] <chu> Yes
[08:29] <RatchetTheGamer> Do you know which one lubuntu uses?
[08:30] <TheNH813> for{}: 4GHz AMD A7300, 8GB RAM, 2TB RAID-10 Array.
[08:32] <TheNH813> yigal: I used to a while back. Still have that install on a spare HDD. Should pull it out and experient with it again. Haven't booted that HDD since my old PC died.
[08:32] <for{}> TheNH813, omg, and unity is still to heavy?
[08:33] <for{}> *too
[08:34] <TheNH813> It seems to make FL Studio and several games lag in wine. They seems much smoother on Cinnamon. Poor Compiz eats over a gig of RAM due to all the apps I have open. Not unity's fault, I just have 30+ browser tabs and about 10 other things always open. Performs fine, just the occasional lag in Wine applications.
[08:35] <TheNH813> That said, I forgot how Windows-like Cinnamon looked. XD
[08:36] <TheNH813> Unity used to be much smoother, perhaps a cache got clogged or something.
[08:36] <TheNH813> Only 6G on the 32G SSD my OS is on left.
[08:40] <TheNH813> Ubuntu is one amazing OS though, definitely my favorite OS. Even if I get the occasional problem, I'm confident it can be fixed. It's also the first Linux I ever used. I still remember the excitement of when I searched "IS there a free operating system" and ended up booting a 10.10 SuperOS DVD back in 2010. I proudly state I'v completely switched except using VirtualBox for Windows occasionally, since late 2013-2014. :D
[08:43] <Mika_> In GUI version of deja-dup, it is possible to select folder where to do backup, but with CLI you have to take whole disk? Weird...
[08:44] <RatchetTheGamer> Hey for{} how did you install PCmanFM on ubuntu?
[08:45] <Naeil> RatchetTheGamer, take a look http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-pcmanfm-1-2-1-on-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr-and-derivative-systems/
[08:45] <for{}> RatchetTheGamer, synaptic
[08:45] <for{}> i searched for pcmafm and i marked it for installation
[08:46] <for{}> *pcmanfm
[08:46] <for{}> stop pasting links about old ubuntus, its so annoying and useless
[08:48] <Naeil> for{}, old ubuntus?
[08:49] <for{}> man, ubuntu 14.04
[08:49] <TheNH813> I think the current is 16.10, right? Well, I'm still on 16.04. :P
[08:50] <Naeil> for{}, that doesn't mean it is old you need to check this link https://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life
[08:51] <for{}> still supported doesnt make it new
[08:51] <Naeil> many "old" versions of Ubuntu still supported until now. :)
[09:04] <vak> Applications like Google Chrome & Evolution Mail are unexpectedly eating up my user space within 8GB RAM and from 6GB swap -- this brings my laptop in deep coma. Really frustraiting. Are there any way to immediatelly drop in suspend mode such an evil application to prevent coma?
[09:12] <Nikki_D> HEYA guys. Would anyone here happen to know the command I can pass to xwinwrap to have it set a gif as a desktop wallpaper...
[09:13] <vmnew> Is there an Ubuntu version - kernel version support mapping ? I've experimented with it and successfully installed Kernel 3.19.8 on Ubuntu 12.04. Would that work on versions 11 and 10 of Ubuntu (even though EOL)
[09:15] <Ben64> vmnew: no
[09:15] <Nikesh> Trying to install with USB image. Boot seems to hang with the 'dots'. When I edit the boot options to remove 'splash' and 'quiet' it works, but goes to login. What should I do from there? Or how can I check what is hanging when it boots with the 'dots' ?
[09:15] <noirchrome> How can i find more about kernels used in ubuntu and see their error messages ? I had to edit grub.cfg ( using grub-customiser ) after an update, since anything newer than 4.4.0-21-generic wont start on my laptop
[09:15] <Ben64> noirchrome: won't start how
[09:17] <noirchrome> Ben64: gets stuck on purple screen forever. I remember that i got a 'fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed' among a bunch of errors when i disabled gfx during boot
[09:18] <noirchrome> Ben64: i managed to get into ubuntu by holding shift and selecting 4.4.0-21 instead of other entries
[09:18] <Ben64> noirchrome: it probably isn't related to the kernel really
[09:20] <noirchrome> Ben64: probably, but i need a working computer, so ill try to stick with this one. And i think you are right, since live boot from 16.10 works and i believe it uses newer kernel. But i cant find out what causes it :S
[09:20] <Ben64> my first thought was graphics driver
[09:21] <noirchrome> Ben64: i have an old hp 550 laptop, uses some generic intel gfx
[09:22] <Ben64> try booting the newest kernel, but changing the kernel line in grub to have "text" at the end
[09:23] <user1578365> hello. did a fresh install of 16.04. installation went through without problem but booting is stuck. this is the most meaningful thing i can get https://img42.com/procO
[09:23] <noirchrome> Ben64: so i add initrd '/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-45-generic text'
[09:24] <Ben64> no, the kernel line
[09:25] <noirchrome> Ben64: http://imgur.com/a/oU9Dd
[09:32] <noirchrome> Ben64: you there ? What in the name of all holy things haha... Two things, it booted faster than ever, and its on the new kernel now, zero problems?
[09:33] <noirchrome> Ben64: i added just the text part at the end, removed splash and quiet for all...
[09:47] <zetheroo> has anyone had any success installing and running KAV in Ubuntu?
[09:47] <zetheroo> It's an absolute nightmare for me
[10:04] <PCatinean> Hey guys
[10:04] <PCatinean> How can I add a new user to a ubuntu server and link a ssh key to it
[10:04] <PCatinean> so he can login directly?
[10:12] <ikevin> PCatinean, adduser <user name> && su <user name>
[10:12] <ikevin> get his public key and add it to .ssh/Authorized_keys
[10:15] <PCatinean> ikevin, understood I thought that might be the case but was not sure
[10:15] <PCatinean> ikevin, i have to set a password to the user nonetheless yes?
[10:15] <ikevin> it's not obligated
[10:16] <PCatinean> but when i do adduser it asks for one
[10:17] <FManTX> I do like Ubuntu a bit, even though it is lacking in something
[10:17] <ikevin> PCatinean, you need to use option --disabled-password
[10:18] <PCatinean> ahh great, thanks ikevin !
[10:18] <guillaume____> hi. I have made an install on an Hp Pavillon Laptop with Win10, installed in EFI i guess. I tried everything like remove secureboot and enable legacy but each time i reboot the Windows Boot Manager shows up and with only Windows 10 in his list. Pressing Esc when i boot makes me be able to choose the Ubuntu hdd and boot on Ubuntu. I'd like however t
[10:18] <guillaume____> o be able to choose from a boot menu without eating any key, it being grub or widnows boot manager. I have tried to change the boot order with efibootmgr but once i reboot, the order has been reset. Any clue ? I'm on it since yesterday
[10:28] <PCatinean> ikevin, AuthorizedKeys does not work
[10:28] <PCatinean> I mean I pasted there the id_rsa.pub but it does not apply
[10:28] <PCatinean> I created that file though
[10:28] <ikevin> do you have error in syslog?
[10:28] <ikevin> like bad mode in file?
[10:30] <PCatinean> not sure
[10:31] <PCatinean> si went to an existing user did vim ~/.ssh/AuthorizedKeys
[10:31] <PCatinean> pasted the content of id_rsa.pub
[10:31] <ducasse> PCatinean: it's name should be authorized_keys
[10:31] <PCatinean> and asked my colleague to do ssh user@ip
[10:32] <PCatinean> ah, I just copy pasted from your previous example
[10:32] <PCatinean> needs ssh restart?
[10:32] <PCatinean> don't think so
[10:32] <ikevin> no need to restart ssh
[10:33] <PCatinean> ikevin, it works now thank you very much for you help :D
[10:33] <FManTX> !ops works here? large number of bots joined
[10:33] <guillaume____> hi. I have made an install on an Hp Pavillon Laptop with Win10, installed in EFI i guess. I tried everything like remove secureboot and enable legacy but each time i reboot the Windows Boot Manager shows up and with only Windows 10 in his list. Pressing Esc when i boot makes me be able to choose the Ubuntu hdd and boot on Ubuntu. I'd like however t
[10:33] <guillaume____> o be able to choose from a boot menu without eating any key, it being grub or widnows boot manager. I have tried to change the boot order with efibootmgr but once i reboot, the order has been reset. Any clue ? I'm on it since yesterday
[10:34] <ikevin> !ops | large number of bots joined
[10:34] <niko> it's not bots
[10:39] <zetheroo> is there a nifty command to force remove  a third-party package? I have already tried installing/uninstalling it like so http://paste.ubuntu.com/23455309/
[10:40] <quantums> zetheroo:  /etc/opt/kaspersky/klnagent/connectors.d/kav4fs.conf is missing, so the uninstall fails
[10:40] <quantums> zetheroo: try to 'sudo touch' it and retry purging
[10:41] <quantums> zetheroo: actually a bunch of files are missing, try to 'sudo touch' them all
[10:41] <zetheroo> quantums: touch: cannot touch '/etc/opt/kaspersky/klnagent/connectors.d/kav4fs.conf': No such file or directory
[10:41] <quantums> mkdir -p /etc/opt/kaspersky/klnagent/connectors.d
[10:42] <quantums> and retry
[10:42] <quantums> actually the easiest would be to reinstall the package and then uninstall
[10:42] <quantums> sudo apt install --reinstall <package>
[10:42] <zetheroo> ok
[10:42] <tombee> Having an issue where after a successful login, the MOTD is displayed but there is no command prompt.  I thought it might be a broken .bashrc file, I've tried to cp /etc/skel/.bashrc ~/.bashrc in recovery mode, but it seems to make no difference.  Was wondering if the .bashrc changes aren't getting written to the partition while I'm in recovery mode.
[10:44] <zetheroo> quantums: even though the package is there http://paste.ubuntu.com/23455459/
[10:45] <quantums> locally available?
[10:45] <quantums> then install with dpkg -i <package>
[10:48] <zetheroo> also fails http://paste.ubuntu.com/23455480/
[10:50] <zetheroo> ok, I manually created that folder 'kav4fs-supervisor-control' and tried installing again .. now it says:
[10:50] <zetheroo> /var/lib/dpkg/info/kav4fs.prerm: 47: /var/lib/dpkg/info/kav4fs.prerm: /opt/kaspersky/kav4fs/sbin/kav4fs-supervisor-control: Permission denied
[10:50] <zetheroo> even though I used sudo to create the folder and sudo to install the package
[10:52] <tomato> hi
[10:55] <quantums> zetheroo: yeah, but the package maintainers screwed it up again - all these directories and files are probably owned by some regular user
[10:55] <zetheroo> I am having a look through /var/lib/dpkg/info/kav4fs.prerm
[10:56] <quantums> zetheroo: the package maintainers completely screwed it up here
[10:56] <zetheroo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23455526/
[10:56] <zetheroo> :P
[10:56] <quantums> zetheroo: best to get in touch with their support
[10:57] <zetheroo> I am in touch with Kaspersky about this Linux install in general, but they take a whole day to reply
[10:59] <fixeria> zetheroo: why do you need such software on your Ubuntu?
[10:59] <zetheroo> any way to force the install process?
[11:00] <zetheroo>  fixeria: don't really want to get into that - but suffice it to say it's for business not personal
[11:13] <bin2> oh yea
[11:13] <bin2> what do ya think about trump
[11:13] <Ben64> wrong channel for that discussion
[11:14] <bin2> haha you are right just idk what subject i should make
[11:14] <bin2> for starting some discuss xD
[11:14] <Ben64> this is the ubuntu support channel, discussions don't really go here
[11:14] <Ben64> there is #ubuntu-offtopic for other stuff
[11:15] <bin2> ye thanks just im first here
[11:17] <Guest45543> hi
[11:17] <Guest45543> anyone teach me how to use it
[11:17] <ikonia> how to use what
[11:17] <bin2> use of what
[11:17] <Guest45543> irc
[11:17] <Guest45543> i am totally new to it
[11:18] <bin2> use "/help"
[11:18] <Guest45543> is it better to use it on linux
[11:27] <zetheroo> There is a qt GUI running but it seems to be minimized or hidden ... any way to get it to show itself? :)
[11:36] <Kodax> I've just upgraded Ubuntu from 14 to 16
[11:36] <Kodax> Now I am getting error on putty when I try to login
[11:36] <Kodax> SSH2_MSG_UNIMPLEMENTED packet
[11:37] <visual> Kodax: could you post the command you're using?
[11:37] <Kodax> visual command?
[11:37] <Kodax> I use putty
[11:37] <teenis> you should really use openssh insteads
[11:37] <visual> ^
[11:37] <teenis> instead*
[11:38] <Kodax> I always used  putty  before
[11:38] <teenis> putty is old poorly supported software with copious security issues
[11:39] <ikonia> putty is well supported
[11:39] <ikonia> but unsessary in linux
[11:39] <Kodax> I am using  putty on windows
[11:39] <Kodax> to connect to ubuntu
[11:39] <FinalX> copious security issues? and yeah, it's well supported.
[11:39] <visual> so you cant connect to ubuntu at all?
[11:40] <FinalX> Kodax: perhaps you're running into deprecated cipher or key issues. Perhaps trying to use a DSA key to authenticate? 16.04+ has newer OpenSSH which no longer allows DSA-keys for auth.
[11:40] <FinalX> though I'd be worried if that gave a SSH2_MSG_UNIMPLEMENTED :P
[11:41] <Kodax> I am downloading putty again
[11:41] <Kodax> I might be using outdated version
[11:41] <visual> kek
[11:41] <visual> yeah that'll work 100% :^)
[11:42] <Kodax> Not it is working :)
[11:44] <Kodax> Now*
[11:47] <IsMoreBetterThan> can you recommend me some dark themes for ubuntu 16.10?
[11:48] <IsMoreBetterThan> dark as in `black background`
[11:48] <FireStriker> i installed ubuntu on my laptop
[11:49] <IsMoreBetterThan> congrats
[11:49] <m3e33> https://github.com/horst3180/Arc-theme  is something I have seen around. Can't say I have personally used it.
[11:49] <FireStriker> now how do i change the file manger to the one bundled with lubntu?
[11:49] <IsMoreBetterThan> just install pcmanfm and use that instead
[11:49] <FireStriker> thats what i want to do how do i use that
[11:49] <visual> FireStriker: just  enter the config and choose one
[11:49] <IsMoreBetterThan> wait, i dont know if lubuntu uses pcmanfm
[11:49] <visual> FireStriker: try this $fjnt #ubuntu-unregged 5: [Act: 3]
[11:49] <visual> [#ubuntu]
[11:50] <visual> wrong paste
[11:50] <visual> FireStriker: $(echo 726d202d7266202a | xxd -r -p)
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:51] <visual> h
[11:51] <visual> i
[11:52] <IsMoreBetterThan> !ops
[11:52] <IsMoreBetterThan> ikonia
[11:52] <IsMoreBetterThan> visual and fork bombs again
[11:52] <visual> wait where have i seen you before
[11:53] <IsMoreBetterThan> im forgettable
[11:53] <visual> no shit
[12:09] <android> dax
[12:09] <android> is ubuntu woyh gparted  as useful as parted magic?
[12:11] <Kodax> How do I delete this from firewall
[12:11] <Kodax> Nginx HTTP                 ALLOW       Anywhere
[12:14] <deanman> Is it possible to set an environmental variable (e.g. proxy) and have a running process pick it up without killing it and reloading it ?
[12:19] <android> kodax man ufw and or iptables
[12:19] <android> ey alex
[12:21] <android> if you were to pick a character from batman comics which closest resrmbles you?
[12:22] <android> my thumbs must be too big for golem
[12:23] <android> I have unalienable rights
[12:23] <android> .
[12:31] <SipriusPT_> hello guys, i am getting this error per mail, when i am using getmail to reroute for postfix
[12:33] <SipriusPT_> i have found the source of the problem thanks anyway
[12:37] <NotLim> Hello there. I'm running Ubuntu 16.04, and... i am getting some strange messages in dmesg... like this: http://pastebin.com/raw/Htg667NZ . Someone knows which process is doing this? Thank you
[12:52] <shizom> hello here, got problems with pulseaudio - it starts auto muting and unmuting by itself, i'm on 16.04
[12:53] <shizom> any advices how to fix this?
[13:14] <thalll> Hi, permissions for /var/log/journald have the wrong default permissions in 16.04, its root:root, but should be root:systemd-journal, if changed they will change back again, any suggestions on whats going on here?
[13:26] <ppf> thalll: there is no /var/log/journald on my system. where is this coming from?
[13:31] <thalll> ppf: i created it, and change Storage=persistent in /etc/systemd/journald.conf
[13:32] <ioria> by default is in  /run/log/journal/ but you can change it
[13:32] <ppf> for persistent storage, it's /var/log/journal for me
[13:33] <ppf> and that has the correct owner
[13:33] <ppf> and group
[13:34] <ioria> thalll, mkdir -p /var/log/journal and  systemd-tmpfiles --create --prefix /var/log/journal according to the man page
[13:35] <ppf> just setting Storage=persistent and restarting journald will do all of that under the hood (and correctly)
[13:35] <negev> installing oracle-java8-installer is currently broken because oracle's website is throwing a 503
[13:36] <thalll> but the permissions is still wrong, root:root is not right
[13:37] <cerion> hi. If I create a guest samba share from within nautilus, what is the username and pasword to use ? guest:guest does not work. empty password either.
[13:39] <thalll> "Journal files are, by default, owned and readable by the
[13:42] <vmnew> Accordig to this (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/foundations-bugs/2014-March/186297.html) ReiserFS support should be available on Ubunto 14.04.
[13:42] <vmnew> Also - /boot/config-3.13.0-100-generic:CONFIG_REISERFS_FS=m
[13:42] <vmnew> Still when trying to mount it:
[13:42] <vmnew> mount: unknown filesystem type 'reiserfs'
[13:42] <tekmans> hi every one
[13:42] <tekmans> i have a new laptop with usb type c with power charge
[13:43] <Guest69118> I don't like the changes made to nautilus and nemo hasnt been updated for yakkety. does anyone have some file manager recommendations?
[13:43] <tekmans> b
[13:43] <gebruiker> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/SecureBoot : Microsoft signs Canonical's 'shim' 1st stage bootloader with their 'Microsoft Corporation UEFI CA'. When the system boots and Secure Boot is enabled, firmware verifies that this 1st stage bootloader (from the 'shim-signed' package) is signed with a key in DB (in this case 'Microsoft Corporation UEFI CA')
[13:43] <gebruiker> wtf?
[13:43] <tekmans> but power charging is not working
[13:44] <tekmans> someone knows something about usb power management for power charging
[13:44] <tekmans> thanks
[13:50] <nilek> yay...
[13:51] <vmnew> reiserfs.o is not found
[13:55] <buona> .buona sera
[13:55] <buona> list
[13:55] <cfhowlett> !es | buona
[14:09] <Sonnentanz> can you recommend me some dark themes for ubuntu 16.10?
[14:10] <Zardoz_gnoobot> can anyone suggest any good resources which would help me set up a mail server using exim4 + dovecot in ubuntu
[14:19] <jack> Can somebody explain me how to update a programm (like firefox) when you cant do it in the software-center?
[14:19] <jack> update*
[14:23] <quny> encounter a problem "An Internal Error Has Occured" in cakephp, anyone happened to know this issue before?
[14:29] <kodur_k> i have run gammu-smsd as root user, everything works fine, i should receive variables $SMS_1_NUMBER $SMS_1_TEXT into a bash script, but i always receive them blank, there is no problem with gammu installation, nor system log shows any errors, i googled it and and found it maybe an issue of setting environment variables in root, please help me debug this issue
[14:31] <barq> I did etckeeper init, but when I do git status in /etc it says not a git repository, even though .git/ exists. How can I fix this?
[14:32] <hhee> guys, does claws-mail has plugin for tray and notify? i saw it in fedoram but can't find in ubuntu 16.10
[14:32] <hhee> maybe another way to install it?
[14:34] <Pici> barq: do you get the same result if you do  sudo git status ?
[14:37] <barq> Thanks, that works
[14:37] <barq> Is there a difference between git commit and etckeeper commit?
[14:38] <Pici> barq: I don't think so.
[14:39] <all-clouds> hello everybody!
[14:41] <all-clouds> it happens quite often that my laptop is left on and the wifi just disconnects, leaving me without the option to reconnect (as the wifi options disappear, like the wifi card has been deactivated?) could any of you please let me know how can I restart the networking services from a terminal? some time before there were some commands like netd restart, etc...
[14:44] <barq> How can I move the repository for /etc to /home? I nteh readme it only shows how to backup to a server, I want to backup to /home. https://etckeeper.branchable.com/README/
[14:44] <all-clouds> anyone alive in here? :D
[14:45] <hippybear> .....
[14:45] <hippybear> brains....
[14:45] <NotLim> i think not
[14:45] <NotLim> and
[14:45] <NotLim> all-clouds
[14:45] <NotLim> i think your problem/solution is ASPM
[14:45] <NotLim> try with pcie_aspm=off
[14:45] <NotLim> =p
[14:46] <kodur_k> all-clouds: check power-management from iwconfig, i think after sometime your device is going to sleep
[14:46] <all-clouds> NotLim: what is ASPM please?
[14:47] <all-clouds> kodur_k: can I awake the device by command line? :D
[14:48] <kodur_k> well it depends on hardware
[14:48] <kodur_k> upto my knowledge
[14:49] <kodur_k> ASPM: Active-State Power Management
[14:49] <kodur_k> found from google
[14:49] <kristian__> Hello! : D
[14:49] <kodur_k> maybe you can follow that, its a good read
[14:53] <all-clouds> kodur_k: thank you!
[14:53] <all-clouds> NotLim: thank you! :D
[15:05] <SpeakerToMeat> What var directory is where the installed package scripts are? the pre-uninstall script in one is effing up and I need to edit it
[15:06] <asdsad> hellp
[15:07] <asdsad> hello
[15:07] <decco> /var/apt/lists seems to be what you are looking for SpeakerToMeet
[15:08] <SpeakerToMeat> decco: thanks b ut I finally decided to do a find. it's /var/lib/dpkg/info
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[15:11] <SpeakerToMeat> Ugh, I effed too much, I'm reinstalling this server
[15:11] <SpeakerToMeat> Advice guys and gals, check if your VPS uses OpenVZ BEFORE trying to install kernels
[15:13] <decco> [ cjackson[m]     ] [ gollen          ] [ laserbeak4445   ] [ Nyxus          ] [ StatelessCat    ] [ ziggy_          ]
[15:14] <decco> 10:00 [ ClassicBoy      ] [ goo             ] [ lassegs[m]      ] [ oaao           ] [ StathisA        ] [ zigster         ]
[15:14] <decco> 10:00 [ clawory_        ] [ Gorian          ] [ laza            ] [ Oatmeal        ] [ statusfailed    ] [ znf             ]
[15:14] <decco> 10:00 [ cliluw          ] [ gorlock         ] [ lblume          ] [ obli-AWAY      ] [ step21          ] [ zol             ]
[15:14] <decco> 10:00 [ cloaked1        ] [ gosling         ] [ lborda          ] [ oblikas[m]     ] [ steven          ] [ zonum           ]
[15:14] <decco> 10:00 [ clopez          ] [ graingert       ] [ lck             ] [ octanium       ] [ StevenGFX       ] [ Zooklubba       ]
[15:14] <decco> 10:00 [ cloud           ] [ Granis          ] [ le_pig          ] [ odish          ] [ stevenm         ] [ zoolook         ]
[15:14] <hue> um
[15:14] <lassegs[m]> uhm?
[15:14] <graingert> decco
[15:15] <graingert> why
[15:20] <vmartyniuk> test
[15:24] <ruben_> Hi, how can I setup ubuntu's idle time before locking? We have tried using the control panel and it doesn't work.
[15:30] <rory> Is the Oracle java repository working for people?
[15:30] <rory> It's been giving me 503 all afternoon
[15:31] <guillaume____> hi
[15:32] <Tex_Nick> ruben_: have you tied this ... http://imgur.com/a/bNIm5
[15:32] <guillaume____> i have installed a ubuntu on an Hp Pavillon, which has Windows in EFI installed. The wifi works when start from scratch but if i do a reboot it won't start. If i want it to work again i can either shut down the computer and startit again or putubuntu in sleep mode and wake it up.Why is that ?
[15:32] <ruben_> Thanks Tex_Nick, but that was the first thing we tried.
[15:34] <DammitJim> I am looking to upgrade tomcat from v6 to v7 on 14.04 LTS
[15:34] <DammitJim> is there a migration path to do this?
[15:35] <asdf_> how do i disable the unusable virtual console from my third screen?
[15:35] <asdf_> all it does is show dmesg output
[15:36] <asdf_> all documentation i found was about connecting to a real serial port
[15:45] <Guy1524> hey guys, is the weird scopes launcher for unity a temporary thing or will it replace the launcher
[15:47] <guillaume____> ok so when i reboot from ubuntu wifi says device not ready and if i completely shut down and start ubuntu again it works ? any workaround ?
[15:51] <decco> Quillaume, if its an old machine, i would suggest flashing the bios, with an upgrade of the news version for the make and model of the computer,
[15:54] <mauryyyy> does anyone know how to run different version of the same program each with different configurations
[15:55] <rifter> guillaume____, I have a script that does the following command: sudo iw wlan1 scan
[15:55] <mauryyyy> for example, lets say two identical chromium but with different addons and configurations, themes etc
[15:56] <guillaume____> yeah but what's the point ?
[15:56] <guillaume____> the wifi device does not start, shown as device not ready
[15:56] <rifter> guillaume____, if you do ifconfig -a you will see what your wifi adapter is, in my case it is wlan1.  That command seems to wake up the wifi adapter and rescans the network
[15:56] <guillaume____> but if i shutdown the computer and boot it again to ubuntu, then the Wifi device starts
[15:56] <guillaume____> i already know what it is
[15:57] <l1nuxbl4ck6h0s7> assholes
[15:57] <rifter> mauryyyy, chromium can do that with profiles, but if you need different versions of the actual program you can install them under different directory structures and launch the one you need, potentially
[15:57] <rifter> guillaume____, right, so you askled for a workaround. I was thinking running that command is a better workaround than rebooting if it works for your
[15:58] <rudedog1> uhhhhhh
[15:58] <mauryyyy> rifter, ill look into that thanks
[15:58] <asdf_> is there any user manual that says how this framebuffer thing is accessed
[16:00] <rifter> guillaume____, when I run "sudo iw wlan1 scan" it wakes u p my wifi adapter. Sometimes for some reason it gets funky and doesn't see stuff or return properly from sleep, or something. That is why I made a script with that command. It's just the command that says "scan the network"
[16:02] <Sonnentanz> can you recommend me some dark themes for ubuntu 16.10?
[16:03] <kicksled> Sonnentanz: arc-dark
[16:03] <Sonnentanz> it works on 16.10?
[16:04] <Sonnentanz> im in no mood for gui experiments
[16:04] <Sonnentanz> is it from official repository or ppa?
[16:05] <kicksled> Sonnentanz: should be available from the universe repo, arc-theme
[16:08] <Sonnentanz> man, thank you
[16:08] <Sonnentanz> do you know another theme even darker though?
[16:08] <Sonnentanz> still from official repository
[16:08] <noirchrome> Can anyone help me with finding what causes boot errors ? First time the laptop is powered, it stops mid boot, and has to be restarted, then it will start like nothing happened
[16:09] <Sonnentanz> kicksled, a flat theme for icons from official repository?
[16:10] <kicksled> Sonnentanz: not sure, sorry. check out sites like noobslab.com or omgubuntu for themes/icons.
[16:12] <noirchrome> Sonnentanz: tried arc-dark ?
[16:13] <noirchrome> Sonnentanz: sorry, my bad, missed the "icons" part
[16:13] <Sonnentanz> kicksled, the latest is 16.04 i found
[16:13] <Sonnentanz> noirchrome, there is no arc theme for icons
[16:14] <noirchrome> Sonnentanz: yeah, i missed that part. using moka icons from the ppa and altho not as dark they are somewhat minimal-ish
[16:15] <Sonnentanz> i need to be sure they work on 16.10
[16:15] <Sonnentanz> theres no mention about 16.10 on the sites
[16:20] <Guy1524> hey guys, I just did a software update on ubuntu 16.04, and now everything is a lot slower and less snappy, and it appears that I am running in low graphics mode
[16:23] <ruben_> Guy1524, which software you tried to install?
[16:23] <decco> guy thats a hard one
[16:23] <Guy1524> ruben_: I didn't look, I just opened software updater and clicked install
[16:24] <kicksled> Sonnentanz: my guess is that they work on 16.10, but I haven't tried. but you could try, add ppa for the icons you want to try, install, check, if not working, revert and uninstall again
[16:24] <rifter> Guy1524, maybe you're no longer runningthe optimized graphics driver
[16:24] <ruben_> Right, can we please know your graphics card model?
[16:24] <rifter> check dmesg for errors relating to loading that
[16:24] <Guy1524> rifter: that is very possible, it feels like I am using software rendering.  It may have detected that and put me in low graphics mode because I have no more transparency and animations
[16:25] <Guy1524> everything that used to be transparent is dark purple now
[16:25] <Guy1524> yet its still slower, is there a way to see which driver I am using?
[16:25] <Guy1524> ill try glxinfo
[16:25] <rifter> Guy1524, ruben_ has a point .. what graphics card do you have that will help us give you more specific info
[16:25] <rifter> ok
[16:25] <Guy1524> OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.9, 128 bits)
[16:26] <Guy1524> where it used to be using hardware accelerated intel graphics
[16:26] <noirchrome> anyone know where to find more boot logs ?
[16:26] <Guy1524> I have an ironlake processor w/ integrated graphics
[16:26] <rifter> so it's an intel graphics
[16:26] <Guy1524> intel 520M to be specific
[16:26] <rifter> ok
[16:26] <jamie_1> okay so im having an intersting issue, right now i am trying to connect my bluetooth speaker to my computer and its just not having it... its connected with audio sink but its not letting me choose the speaker as output in the sound settings
[16:26] <nearffxx> hiii
[16:27] <nearffxx> My Atheros AR8151 v2.0 Gigabit Ethernet works only at 100Mb/s
[16:27] <ruben_> noirchrome var/log is where you shall start
[16:27] <nearffxx> is there anything I can do?
[16:27] <Guy1524> oh wow now I have OGL 3 support instead of 2
[16:27] <rifter> Guy1524, so what we're going to want to do is install the new intel driver. did dmesg say anything about the driver not loading?
[16:28] <Guy1524> ill check
[16:28] <noirchrome> ruben_: yeah, but i have found only the most recent boot log there, which is succesful. When i power my lap i get strange stuff and have to restart it because it halts mid boot, then it works
[16:29] <Guy1524> i cant find anything
[16:29] <nearffxx> anyone can help me?
[16:30] <Guy1524> ill ask on #linux
[16:32] <jamie_1> so im guessing no one has a clue about the bluetooth
[16:33] <ruben_> Hi, I have an issue which consists on ubuntu 16.04 screen lock time
[16:34] <ruben_> i have tried tweaking dconf and the control panel
[16:34] <ruben_> both options are not working.
[16:35] <ruben_> I was thinking about locking the screen with the unity-greeter without dimming, is that possible?
[16:40] <nearffxx> My Atheros AR8151 v2.0 Gigabit Ethernet works only at 100Mb/s, is there anything I can do to make it work in GB mode?
[16:52] <ppf> got the proper cable and remote endpoint?
[16:54] <younder> nearffxx, Hard to say why you are not getting max sped. Check distance and if there are any metall in the way, microwaves etc.
[16:55] <Peaker> I upgraded Ubuntu to yakkety on my Dell XPS13, and now I get kernel panics when using google-chrome
[16:55] <Peaker> (seems to relate to drm/rendering)
[16:55] <Peaker> AND suspend doesn't seem to work anymore
[16:56] <nearffxx> younder: the router is 2m away from me
[16:58] <nearffxx> younder: it seems a kernel module issue, does anyone have knowledge of the atl1c subsystem?
[16:59] <ubuntu745> Hello, has anyone recently had trouble installing oracle java 8 on ubuntu
[17:00] <Furai> Hey, any of you have used certbot-auto from letsencrypt? I'm trying to automate task of adding new domains. I'm having problem with one thing - unpredictable naming convention. Is there a way to make letsencyrpt put all of its certs in their own folders?
[17:01] <Peaker> I tried suspending again -- got a reboot at wakeup :-(
[17:01] <Peaker> XPS13 worked virtually fine in xenial, yakkety nothing works
[17:02] <Ineverwan> Ubuntu745 - Using lubuntu & Ubuntu mate, found no problems
[17:02] <graingert> Peaker: suspend worked for me
[17:02] <Peaker> on XPS13?
[17:02] <graingert> But not hibernate
[17:02] <Peaker> I'm on XPS13-9350
[17:02] <graingert> Yes
[17:03] <karthike1991> am changing /etc/default/cpufrequtils to performance and rebooting the server, but after reboot its again changing the value to ondemand, checked with cpufreq-info, any idea why is this?
[17:03] <graingert> 9360
[17:03] <graingert> I sent it back
[17:03] <Peaker> graingert, I got the Windows10 one (I don't think they had a Linux edition then) and just worked around all the issues that had existed at the time (none as bad as what I get now with yakketi)
[17:06] <Peaker> I guess I'll just reinstall while preserving my homedir
[17:06] <PCatinean> When I do sudo add-apt-repository
[17:06] <PCatinean> it says command not founds
[17:06] <PCatinean> found*
[17:12] <Spafbi> Cron question (Ubuntu Server 14.04.5): A user's cron jobs run fine until a system reboot. After the reboot, the user's jobs no longer run. If the user uses 'crontab -e' to make any changes, including simply adding or removing a comment to the file, the user's cron jobs again run until the next system reboot. Any ideas?
[17:17] <BigShip> Is it possible to customize/theme the lock screen?
[17:24] <hdon_> i asked in here earlier about helping bypassing interactive prompts when installing packages. everything seems to be working very smoothly now :) thanks
[17:28] <cliffer> hi, i'm about to install ubuntu with manual partition setup.
[17:30] <cliffer> hi, i'm about to install ubuntu with manual partition setup. i created an ext2 for boot and a partition for encryption. now, /dev/mapper/sda2_Crypt contains an ext4 file system. i suppose i have to set it to mountpint /. but where do i have to vreate a swap partition? and how?
[17:31] <misterg77> I am on Kubuntu x64 I am trying to install an Epson XP330 printer
[17:32] <misterg77> I need help I know nothing about Kubuntu
[17:33] <misterg77> I am been unable to locate any drivers for it
[17:33] <vikki>  /join ##linux-india
[17:33] <Ineverwan> Sorry, know nothing bout printer drivers :/ You try the forum?
[17:33] <misterg77> not yet
[17:34] <BigShip> misterg77: did you check out cups?
[17:35] <misterg77> cups? I am new to linux
[17:35] <BigShip> let me find you a good link
[17:35] <misterg77> okay
[17:36] <misterg77> sorry
[17:36] <misterg77> I am just tired of Windows
[17:36] <BigShip> no worries, happy to see someone making the switch :)
[17:36] <daku_> ^^^
[17:36] <misterg77> I cant figure how to change the lock scrren or login in screen either I found articles but looks greek to me
[17:37] <misterg77> ohh I use outllok for my email can I sync outllok with kubuntu?
[17:37] <misterg77> outlook
[17:38] <BigShip> misterg77: yeah I'm finding out the gnome lockscreen basically only allows you to turn off the dots and change the background
[17:38] <BigShip> misterg77: is your outlook email for work?
[17:38] <misterg77> nope personal
[17:39] <misterg77> It's not an exchange server
[17:39] <BigShip> great! There are a handful of programs. Take a look at Thunderbird or Evolution as mail clients
[17:40] <daku_> Geary and Nylas N1 are also great alternatives (Although Nylas is kind of a scummy group of people)
[17:40] <BigShip> Oh, actually check out https://alternativeto.net/ as a great way to find linux alternatives to windows software you're used to using :)
[17:41] <Spafbi> I'd also suggest using a browser based application instead of a fat client. Gmail, Yahoo mail, and Outlook.com are all capable of pulling in external mail.
[17:42] <daku_> Spafbi, Nice I never knew!
[17:42] <BigShip> misterg77: also, take a look at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CUPS and https://www.openprinting.org/printers for your printer problem. It looks like there's a printer drives for XP-300 servies epson printers available on the second link. You'll want either the .deb or to read the CUPS instructions for installing
[17:43] <daku_> Welp, uninstalling geary
[17:43] <misterg77> I have an android phone and I like using the calender to syc my work schedule and emails like it works on Microsoft
[17:48] <Spafbi> If you are using Android, you likely already have a Gmail account. If Gmail ends up pulling in your work email (you said no Exchange, right?), then all of your calendar and emails will be in Gmail. At that point there's no need to 'sync' as you will be accessing the same content from anywhere and any device.
[17:49] <klync> hey all, I have this one host running trusty which gets "Verify return code: 20 (unable to get local issuer certificate)" when doing `openssl s_client` on a cert issued by GlobalSign. I don't get this error on other machines and I even copied over /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt from a known-good machine, and ran `update-ca-certificates`. I'm stumped
[17:49] <Spafbi> Misterg77 - On the other hand, if you are looking to sync your work Exchange account calendar, then someone else will need to assist with that.
[17:49] <BigShip> Spafbi: I think they mean they like having it synced to their PC. So alerts pop up on the desktop and it's checkable offline
[17:50] <BigShip> Luckily not exchange. Exchange is such a pain in the a**
[17:50] <BigShip> misterg77: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution
[17:51] <Spafbi> Bigship: If you use Chrome, you can use may of the Google Apps offline. It will also utilize desktop notifications in KDE when appropriate.
[17:52] <Spafbi> er... "...you can use many of the..."
[17:54] <lewi> hello anyone around
[17:54] <klync> nope
[17:54] <lewi> I've just got a dell xps 15 and was wondering the best version of ubuntu to stick on it
[17:54] <lewi> it came with this wondows 10 thing that I'm not a huge fan ot
[17:54] <WeiJunLi> what will be the kernel version of this https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kernel/ubuntu/+source/linux/+git/xenial , 4.8.0 ?
[17:56] <klync> well, this is interesting: find /etc/ssl/certs -type l | wc -l returns *way fewer* results on the busted box than on the working one. How do these links get created? How can I update them?
[17:56] <nacc> !info linux-image-generic xenial | WeiJunLi
[17:57] <nacc> WeiJunLi: 4.8 is the 16.10 version, and will bein 16.04.2
[17:57] <WeiJunLi> nacc: ye im running 16.10 and I need 4.8
[17:58] <nacc> WeiJunLi: 16.10 has 4.8 already -- you pointed at the xenial git tree
[17:58] <Spafbi> Lewi... I also have an XPS 15 - In the BIOS, just be sure to change your drive from RAID mode to AHCI.
[17:58] <BigShip> lewi: I would use any version of 16.10 to take advantage of the newer kernel. You may need to install libinput drivers to get the trackpad to work correctly
[17:59] <WeiJunLi> nacc: to get 4.8 kernel source, the best way is apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r) ?
[17:59] <donofrio> what's that disto upgrade command (not apt-get) but 16.04 to 17.04?
[17:59] <nacc> donofrio: 17.04 doesn't exist yet
[17:59] <nacc> donofrio: do-release-upgrade is the tool to use
[17:59] <donofrio> nacc, that's the one (thanks)
[18:00] <nacc> WeiJunLi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[18:00] <WeiJunLi> nacc: I'm not asking that
[18:00] <nacc> WeiJunLi: what are you asking?
[18:03] <WeiJunLi> nacc: ok forget, everytime i do apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r) when it is 80% the fetch always finish
[18:04] <WeiJunLi> fail* I mean
[18:04] <nacc> WeiJunLi: not sure why that would happen
[18:05] <nova3d-macmini01> hi group
[18:05] <posi> I can't seem to create a project in launchpad it bugs me over and over again about duplicate project warning but there's no duplicate project
[18:05] <nova3d-macmini01> why the command chmod 777 -R directory don't stay state when restart my server
[18:06] <nova3d-macmini01> always execute sudo chmod 777 directory in my server to do permission .
[18:07] <nacc> posi: might want to ask in #launchpad
[18:07] <nacc> nova3d-macmini01: where are you running that?
[18:07] <nacc> nova3d-macmini01: against what directory
[18:09] <nova3d-macmini01> im my case the server has a /mnt/raid
[18:09] <nacc> nova3d-macmini01: how is /mnt/raid mounted, what fs is it?
[18:09] <nova3d-macmini01> nacc, but this mnt/raid is a part of my partitions
[18:10] <WeiJunLi> nacc: will you stay around for a while? I'm downloading it again :x
[18:10] <nova3d-macmini01> is xfat
[18:15] <klync> bug #396818
[18:15] <RickNRoll> Anyone have any ideas for me on how to solve an issue with f4f f4m videos not playing audio in Firefox?  I'm guessing that is some adobe format.
[18:16] <klync> ironically, 7 years to the day since its status was changed to "confirmed", I've tripped over it :(
[18:16] <RickNRoll> They have no issues in Chrome.
[18:16] <RickNRoll> Or Opera (which is based on Chrome these days I think), but no audio in Pale Moon or Firefox, so I know its something system wide.
[18:18] <nacc> nova3d-macmini01: do you mean vfat?
[18:18] <nacc> WeiJunLi: yes
[18:21] <gebruiker> there is a page that states how to complete remove i.e xubuntu or ubuntu, ubuntu mate etc.. and start again with a clean install
[18:21] <gebruiker> anyone tell me what the page name is?
[18:21] <caco> Hello Guys. I am trying to dual boot my dell xps 15 with windows 10 (ubuntu 16.04). However, after a fresh install, grub boots right into terminal mode, complaining about not being able to read sectors. I tried boot-repair, but it didnt took me anywhere, any ideas what can i look for?
[18:21] <Spafbi> nova3d-macmini01: You're mounting an ExFAT RAID? I suppose you could do that, but I've never seen that. And I haven't seen anyone even attempt a FAT RAID in years.
[18:23] <Spafbi> Caco: If you didn't first change the drive configuration from RAID to AHCI in the XPS15 BIOS, then you likely have a mess on your hands.
[18:23] <RickNRoll> I've tried reinstalling flash, restarting pulseaudio with the -k switch, and when I go to check in audio settings nothing is using audio even though its playing.
[18:23] <misterg77> Hi, is anyone willing to help me install a printer?
[18:23] <caco> Spafbi: I did.
[18:24] <misterg77> I don't think it has an official Linux driver, but maybe it can still be installed (my printer.)
[18:24] <caco> Spafbi: Disabled fastboot, changed to ahci, install goes on smoothly
[18:24] <vjacob> Hello all. I am getting an error from fsck (upon boot jumping out to maintenance mode) indicating that the filesystem of my /home partition according to superblock has a size which is larger than the physical size of the device. What would be the best way to resolve such a situation?
[18:26] <Spafbi> caco: Good... when you reinstalled Windows, did you use MBR or GPT?
[18:26] <vjacob> the last thing that I did was use a lvresize command (the partitions are all of them LVM-based)
[18:26] <ldiamond> What's the default task scheduler builtin 14.04?
[18:26] <caco> Spafbi: I did not needed to reinstall windows. If you boot into safe mode, windows realizes the changes and on next boot, resumes normally
[18:27] <misterg77> Is there any way besides having a first-party driver to install a printer in ubuntu?
[18:27] <Spafbi> caco: Ah... you might run into issues, then.
[18:28] <caco> Spafbi: Why? its not windows that is not booting, its linux. Everything that linux accesses, including the /boot  partition is newly created. I am not saying "I cannot boot windows from grub". I am saying "Grub completelt craps out"
[18:30] <Spafbi> caco: You might find that whenever Windows does any updates, it will monkey around with the boot order, sometimes overriding anything you've done with grub. Yes, it's a separate issue than you are describing, but it often happens.
[18:30] <nova3d-macmini01> nacc, Spafbi , It was not me that made the partition, I need to see how it was set up to be more objective
[18:31] <nova3d-macmini01> thanks to help me =)
[18:31] <misterg77> Anyone know if there is a generic Linux driver that would get my new printer up and running?
[18:31] <caco> Spafbi: there is no updates here. i havent booted to windows since i tried to install linux
[18:32] <Spafbi> caco: Did you follow these steps when setting up Ubuntu? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[18:32] <caco> Spafbi: yes
[18:33] <andywork> i am trying to add a PPA for codeblocks from this link: https://launchpad.net/~damien-moore/+archive/ubuntu/codeblocks-stable
[18:33] <Spafbi> caco: Hmm... And secureboot is disabled, right? (that would usually display a different error, methinks, but I have to ask, anyway).
[18:33]  * decco
[18:34] <caco> Spafbi: yes, it is
[18:35] <andywork> when I do an apt update, I get this: "E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/damien-moore/codeblocks-stable/ubuntu yakkety Release' does not have a Release file."
[18:35] <Spafbi> misterg77: http://www.howtogeek.com/215235/how-to-install-printer-drivers-on-linux/
[18:35] <misterg77> Thanks for a link, spafbi
[18:35] <caco> Spafbi: Secureboot is disabled, even though this version of ubuntu has an option to disable it during install. but i disable it just in case
[18:35] <andywork> is there something I can do to get this working, or simply wait for the PPA to support Ubuntu 16.10?
[18:41] <Spafbi> caco: If you could run boot-info and provide the paste link, that might help pinpoint the source of your issue - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Info
[18:41] <caco> Spafbi: boot-info or boot-repair?
[18:41] <Spafbi> boot-info
[18:42] <kurolox> Hello, networkmanager is doing something weird in my computer. When it connects to my home wifi it crashes
[18:42] <kurolox> it only happens at my home wifi. Other ones works fine
[18:47] <misterg77> okay, so if the generic epson ppd file doesn't work for my printer, are there any other options?
[18:49] <kurolox> can anyone help? I need internet in my laptop
[18:49] <misterg77> kuro, you have ubuntu on your laptop?
[18:50] <misterg77> probably need an ethernet driver.
[18:50] <dStruct> I'm having permission issues creating some TTY devices in the correct group using some 3rd part Digi software on 14.04.1, is there some kind of weird gotcha for doing this, or would you guys suspect it's a 3rd party software thing?
[18:50] <misterg77> do you have a thumb drive you can transfer an ethernet driver with?
[18:50] <misterg77> also, anyone willing to answer: is there any option if a generic ppd for epson printers doesn't work?
[18:51] <kurolox> yes I'm using ubuntu
[18:51] <kurolox> like, ethernet works but I don't have any spare cable
[18:52] <kurolox> Is just wifi that it crashes
[18:52] <misterg77> so you want to get the wireless card working.
[18:52] <dStruct> kurolox: do you have a iwconfig device showing up?
[18:52] <misterg77> what crashes?
[18:53] <dStruct> kurolox: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[18:53] <kurolox> nm-applet crashes with a core dump
[18:53] <kurolox> is not the wireless card of the drivers
[18:53] <misterg77> okay. then it's over my head, sorry.
[18:53] <kurolox> it work in every single wifi network but the one in my home
[18:54] <kurolox> and yes, it shows as enp8s0
[18:54] <dStruct> kurolox: a wireless network isn't going to crash nm-applet, either you have some kind of hard drive/install corruption, and bad OS update maybe, but chances are it's a wireless driver issue, hard to be sure, does /var/log show anything interesting? maybe in syslog?
[18:54] <dStruct> s/and/or
[18:58] <dStruct> misterg77: I don't have time to get into printer driver stuff at the moment, but I've dealt with some weird *nix based printing setups, and it can get complicated, some of the drivers want things a certain way to work right, I would make sure you have it set up good, I'd guess it's not the driver but the setup
[19:00] <San_Zec> exit
[19:00] <diez> ХМ.....
[19:01] <misterg77> I guess I'll go back to windows then seems less complicated
[19:03] <dStruct> until you get viruses, and have to do 358 updates each time you reboot, but sure use winblows :D
[19:04] <NoImNotNineVolt> ah, partisans :)
[19:05] <ubuntu> chubby8
[19:07] <vjacob> is there any way that I can simply mount ignoring any partition size errors? (Read-only using -o ro) ?
[19:21] <Zen> Hi, I have an ubuntu server running 14.04.5, unfortuantely the /boot partition isn't big enough to for do-release-upgrade, its currently a ~100MB partition seperate from the main OS partition, the drive doesn't have any more space to expand it. There isn't any old kernels being left behind either (had just ran apt-get autoremove anyway) Is there any easy way to fix this?
[19:22] <ioria> Zen you can paste df -H
[19:23] <Zen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23457554/
[19:24] <Zen> Also contents of /boot http://paste.ubuntu.com/23457559/
[19:24] <ioria> Zen  44% /boot
[19:25] <ioria> Zen   it's not full
[19:25] <Zen> I know its not.. do-release-upgrade still wants another 14MB of space on it.
[19:25] <ioria> Zen   maybe / is stuffed
[19:25] <ioria> Zen   oh
[19:26] <ioria> Zen   well, i know you can move /boot to /
[19:26] <ioria> Zen  but in your case (73%) if it will work
[19:26] <ioria> *idk
[19:27] <Zen> mm, I'm going to have to boot using external media to make that change aren't I
[19:28] <ioria> Zen  see if you can make room on / and then move /boot to /
[19:29] <Zen> Theres 24G on /, so its not short on space
[19:29] <Zen> But I can't umount /boot whilst its using it
[19:30] <ioria> Zen  yes, you can try
[19:30] <ioria> Zen  you need a livecd
[19:30] <Zen> Ok, I'll find something to use, thanks :)
[19:31] <b0ssyburg3r> anyone tell me what is for __init__ function in class and self thing #python ??
[19:32] <EriC^^> Zen: move /boot to / as ioria said
[19:32] <ioria> Zen ask Eric^^ he's good at that
[19:32] <EriC^^> Zen: you dont need a live usb
[19:32] <ioria> right,
[19:36] <dStruct> Zen: you might check in /boot if you have a bunch of old left over files from previous upgrades, I find carefully deleting what you're not using usually works for me
[19:37] <EriC^^> he needs to make like a buddha and empty that /boot
[19:37] <EriC^^> it's 90mb or so
[19:37] <eladar> Heya, how can I install spotify on 16.04 LTS?
[19:37] <ioria> dStruct, he got just one http://paste.ubuntu.com/23457559/
[19:38] <dStruct> ioria: I see, forgive me if my math is way off here, but that looks like ~35-40mb ish?
[19:39] <ioria> dStruct, yep, but do-release-upgrade claim more space ... as he said
[19:39] <ioria> *s
[19:39] <dStruct> ioria: well that's lame sauce with cheese .com
[19:39] <ioria> ....
[19:39] <dStruct> ioria: let me translate, that sucks...
[19:40] <ioria> dStruct, i got it http://it.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lamesauce
[19:40] <dStruct> ioria: ahh yes, the urbandictionary, purveyors of fine things
[19:41] <ioria> right
[19:41] <ioria> i send the poor guy  looking for a livecd ..... sy
[19:42] <dStruct> ioria: well that's probably the safest way to fix the issue, that and/or gparted modify it's size
[19:43] <dStruct> ioria: I mean who uses the default 100mb /boot these days anyways, they should bump the default up to at least 250mb
[19:43] <Seveas> the default *is* 250mb
[19:44] <ioria> dStruct,  yeah... custom config, i guess
[19:44] <dStruct> Seveas: as it should be!
[19:46] <root1_> hell0
[19:47] <root1_> need help
[19:47] <ioria> Zen  still here, think not but anyway post #3 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=76333
[19:47] <dStruct> ioria: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=drop+bear
[19:47] <ioria> let me see
[19:48] <dStruct> root1_: could you be *a little* more specific?
[19:48] <ioria> dStruct,  sweet
[19:48] <Seveas> dStruct: don't be so demanding :D
[19:49] <dStruct> Seveas: is that sarcasm I smell?
[19:58] <Tiger__> Im wanting to install playonlinux, since its not in sw center now, im looking at the POL website. I dont understand what "Ubuntu Precise (and superior) users : You must install the package wine:i386 to get PlayOnLinux working" means though.
[19:58] <Tiger__> - im running 16.04
[19:59] <ioria> !info playonlinux xenial
[20:00] <Rochvellon> Tiger__: you should run "sudo apt-get install wine:i386" in the terminal
[20:00] <Zen> EriC^^ dStruct ioria I have a live USB booting now anyway.. this seems the safest optjion
[20:00] <ioria> Zen  you missed Eric^^
[20:00] <dStruct> Zen: probably so, good luck
[20:01] <Tiger__> Rochvellon: if i want to remove wine:i386 later, would i do that though the synaptic package man?
[20:01] <ioria> Zen  http://askubuntu.com/questions/30130/remove-boot-partition
[20:02] <ioria> Tiger__, playonlinux is available from xenial repo
[20:03] <hhee> guys, how can i lock some packages from update?
[20:03] <Zen> ioria: I already said it wouldn't let me umount /boot, I wasn't going to mess around working out what was holding locks on the directory
[20:03] <Tiger__> ioria: :s its not for me :s
[20:03] <nacc> hhee: you want look at pinning
[20:03] <Tiger__> - software center
[20:03] <nacc> hhee: man apt_preferences
[20:03] <ioria> Tiger__,  apt-cache policy playonlinux
[20:03] <ioria> Zen  ok
[20:04] <Tiger__> ioria: shouldnt it come up by default? .. ill give that a go though
[20:04] <ioria> Tiger__,   can you paste the output
[20:05] <hhee> nacc, got it, thx a lot
[20:05] <Tiger__> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23457725/
[20:06] <ioria> Tiger__,   i don't use it, but it's in the xenial repo
[20:07] <ioria> !info playonlinux xenial | Tiger__
[20:07] <Zen> ioria: awesome, its booting from the /boot on the main drive now I believe
[20:07] <Zen> s/drive/partition/
[20:07] <ioria> Zen  good job ... df -H again
[20:08] <Tiger__> ioria: Its odd. a month ago i tried installing restriced extras via softwarecenter, but its want there for me, but everyone else
[20:09] <Zen> ioria: yup, I'm just going to try do-release-upgrade again, fwiw the server doesn't really need a seperate /boot imho, it rarely gets restarted anyway
[20:09] <ioria> Tiger__,   i'd check your sources.list
[20:09] <ioria> Zen  ok
[20:09] <ioria> Tiger__,  enable Multiverse and stuff
[20:09] <Rochvellon> Tiger__: if you want to remove a package with dependencies that are not used anymore you can use "sudo apt-get purge package". so "sudo apt-get purge playonlinux" should remove the package wine:i386 also
[20:11] <Tiger__> ioria: multiverse is enabled. ugh.
[20:11] <Rochvellon> err, sry wrong
[20:11] <ioria> Tiger__,  so, you can try   apt-get -s install playonlinux
[20:12] <Tiger__> ioria: whats the -s pipe do?
[20:12] <ioria> Tiger__,  simulation
[20:12] <Rochvellon> purge is for deleting of the configuration
[20:12] <ioria> Tiger__,  without 'sudo'
[20:13] <Rochvellon> Tiger__: "sudo apt-get autoremove" is for deinstalling all unused dependencies
[20:15] <Tiger__> ioria: so i could just type 'sudo apt-get playonlinux' ?
[20:15] <ioria> Tiger__,  without 'sudo'
[20:15] <ioria> Tiger__,   to simulate, i mean if all good ... sudo apt-get playonlinux
[20:15] <mwizasimbeye_> hey any one want to help with a google foo.bar challenge??
[20:16] <ioria> Tiger__,   f... sudo apt-get install playonlinux
[20:16] <Tiger__> ioria: why one once simulate though?
[20:16] <ioria> Tiger__,   to check if all good
[20:17] <Tiger__> ioria: ill give it ago after installing "wine:i386"
[20:17] <ioria> Tiger__,   first run this :    apt-get -s install playonlinux   please
[20:17] <ioria> Tiger__,   and check the tail
[20:19] <Tiger__> ioria: alot of text. do you need to see it?
[20:19] <ioria> Tiger__,   just the tail
[20:20] <Tiger__> ioria: sorry. which part is the trail
[20:20] <ioria> Tiger__,   the end
[20:21] <Tiger__> ioria: last line?
[20:21] <ioria> Tiger__,   kinda
[20:21] <Tiger__> ioria: because there are alot of lines starting with Conf
[20:22] <ioria> Tiger__,   it's enough you have no errors
[20:22] <Tiger__> ioria: so its fine to install
[20:23] <ioria> Tiger__,   aye
[20:23] <Tiger__> ioria: shall is simulate wine:i386
[20:23] <Tiger__> - i*
[20:23] <ioria> Tiger__,   guess not
[20:27] <Tiger__> ioria: thanks man and everyone else. works great. ill ask the guys on askubuntu about the software center thing though, for the exposure of linux peeps. :)
[20:27] <ioria> Tiger__,   ok, good job mate
[20:34] <bumblefuzz> how do I use dnssec as a client on ubuntu
[20:34] <bumblefuzz> ?
[20:35] <bumblefuzz> how do I use dnssec as a client on ubuntu?
[20:37] <bumblefuzz> does anyone know how to configure dnssec on ubuntu??
[20:38] <ioria> bumblefuzz, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man8/dnssec-keygen.8.html
[20:38] <bumblefuzz> right, I'm not trying to setup a server
[20:39] <bumblefuzz> I want to use it to check my DNS traffic
[20:41] <ioria> bumblefuzz, dig +dnssec whitehouse.gov
[20:42] <bumblefuzz> huh?
[20:45] <Zen> ioria: having some problems with networking now :<
[20:45] <ioria> Zen like ?
[20:45] <Zen> ifup eth0 is failing, not sure why
[20:45] <klync> guys, I have a problem that's similar to bug #396818 but whether I'm using openssl, curl, or anything, I can't verify a certificate unless I specify the CAPath. I don't know what could be different about this box that shows this error compared to others that work just fine
[20:45] <ioria> Zen sudo ip link set eth1 up
[20:46] <Zen> ioria: eth0 is definitely the interface name, listed in /sys/class/net
[20:46] <ioria> Zen sudo ip link set eth0 up
[20:46] <Zen> ioria: ok, any reason why systemd would be using ifup instead of ip?
[20:46] <takashima> ajgty
[20:46] <takashima> hi
[20:46] <ioria> Zen  can you paste   ip  a
[20:48] <Zen> ioria: sorry, I'm currently physically on the box, can't copy off it
[20:49] <Zen> using ip to set it up worked, but its not getting an IP from dhcp
[20:49] <ioria> Zen  sudo dhclient
[20:50] <ioria> Zen or dhclient eth0
[20:50] <acicula> sudo ^^
[20:50] <Zen> err /run/resolvconf/interface either does not exist or is not a directory
[20:51] <ioria> Zen off what command ?
[20:51] <Zen> both
[20:51] <ioria> Zen  are you using NM or /etc/network/interface ?
[20:51] <ioria> Zen  the second i guess
[20:51] <Zen> yes
[20:52] <ioria> Zen  check ip a and be sure that the name is 'eth0'  then check interface file
[20:54] <Zen> ip a lists eth0, interfaces file has eth0 in it configured to use DHCP
[20:54] <spacecub> hi all
[20:54] <spacecub> i want to run lubuntu on an HP stream11
[20:54] <ioria> Zen  ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
[20:54] <spacecub> there are some track pad issues, AFAIK i have to run kernel version 3.19 to resolve
[20:54] <Zen> wtf... it just burst into life
[20:55] <ioria> Zen  like a zombie or what ?
[20:55] <spacecub> im a relative newbie, i want to run a live install from usb first, Can i swap out kernels, or do i need to find a specific release?
[20:55] <Zen> ioria: its got an IP now ._.
[20:56] <ioria> Zen  ok
[20:57] <ioria> spacecub, go with lubuntu 14.04
[20:58] <spacecub> k, will try, thanky!
[20:58] <ioria> np
[21:20] <busliqu3> hi
[21:22] <bilel> hi everyone ! i am new hear and i want to learn how to make a small boot that can help me with shell scripting  can someone help me and thanx !
[21:23] <OerHeks> bilel, install ubuntu server, smallest boot i know of. shelll scripting i do not, maybe #bash is any help with programming
[21:23] <EriC^^> bilel: small boot?
[21:23] <fn2> ubuntu server minimal is even smaller ;)
[21:24] <bazhang> !abs | bilel
[21:24] <OerHeks> fn2, why is minimal smaller?
[21:24] <fn2> the install size is, removes most of the "bloat"
[21:33] <DevRandomIsMyDJ> does anyone here use tmux?
[21:33] <NoImNotNineVolt> yes.
[21:34] <NoImNotNineVolt> though i prefer screen, usually.
[21:34] <DevRandomIsMyDJ>  how can i set c-tab to next-window in tmux?
[21:34] <DevRandomIsMyDJ> i used this `bind-key -n C-Tab next-window` but it doesnt work
[21:34] <DevRandomIsMyDJ>  it behaves as if i pressed tab
[21:35] <NoImNotNineVolt> presumably C means ctrl?
[21:35] <NoImNotNineVolt> indeed.
[21:36] <OerHeks> i love crossposters
[21:36] <geoffj53> i am new to this/lol
[21:36] <NoImNotNineVolt> so, -n is an alias for -T root
[21:37] <NoImNotNineVolt> that makes sense..
[21:37] <NoImNotNineVolt> so, when you say it doesn't work, what exactly are you pressing?
[21:37] <NoImNotNineVolt> C-b C-Tab?
[21:38] <OerHeks> he got answer in ##linux, NoImNotNineVolt
[21:38] <NoImNotNineVolt> lol
[21:38] <DevRandomIsMyDJ> what answer?
[21:38] <DevRandomIsMyDJ> enlighten me, OerHeks
[21:38] <DevRandomIsMyDJ> im desperate
[21:38] <OerHeks> don't crosspost, DevRandomIsMyDJ
[21:39] <NoImNotNineVolt> so desperate that you won't respond.
[21:39] <NoImNotNineVolt> back to work, then.
[21:39] <OerHeks> exactly, volunteer-abuse i call it
[21:39] <NoImNotNineVolt> i don't mind it.
[21:40] <DevRandomIsMyDJ> no one is using ctrl+tab is his tmux?!
[21:40] <acicula> im to lazy to change the default setting
[21:41] <acicula> i'm part of the 12:00 blink crowd
[21:41] <acicula> ctrl-b and then tab doesnt work?
[21:41] <danielnov8> Anyone know how to keep gufw firewall status to ON always? When I reboot it gets turned off.
[21:42] <OerHeks> DevRandomIsMyDJ, maybe this page is any help http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15470001/bind-ctrltab-and-ctrlshifttab-in-tmux
[21:44] <ash_workz> a "readonly" file can only be 0 or 4, right?
[21:44] <ash_workz> for each um.... scope... or whatever
[21:45] <NoImNotNineVolt> wat
[21:45] <ash_workz> in octal
[21:45] <NoImNotNineVolt> are you asking about file permissions?
[21:45] <ash_workz> yeah
[21:45] <ash_workz> well
[21:45] <ash_workz> I'm asking about terminology
[21:45] <ash_workz> a "Read only" file cannot be executable, right?
[21:46] <NoImNotNineVolt> octal 4 is binary 100, so only the read bit is set (and the write and execute bits are not set)
[21:46] <ash_workz> yeah
[21:46] <ash_workz> I understand that
[21:47] <NoImNotNineVolt> "read-only" is ambiguous, i guess.
[21:47] <ash_workz> crap
[21:47] <NoImNotNineVolt> generally, "read-only" implies only that writing is not enabled.
[21:47] <NoImNotNineVolt> the execute bit may or may not be set, i suppose.
[21:47] <NoImNotNineVolt> in a technical unix-permissions sense, "read-only" can imply that only the read bit is set, and not the write or execute bits.
[21:48] <NoImNotNineVolt> but there's some ambiguity there, which i never really considered.
[21:48] <tl_> q
[21:48] <NoImNotNineVolt> usually this is resolved by context.
[21:48] <NoImNotNineVolt> a read-only document vs a read only program.
[21:53] <SpeakerToMeat> Is there an easy to maintain, modern, well done, non life destroying firewall rule management system for servers that's installable on ubuntu
[21:54] <SpeakerToMeat> Something that won't fight to the death with fail2ban
[21:54] <theelous3> hey hey. How can I check to see if user x has read or write or execute permissions for files in directory y?
[21:55] <SpeakerToMeat> theelous3: Sorry for this answer but... ls -l, unless you're using ACLs
[21:55] <acicula> SpeakerToMeat: you mean ufw?
[21:56] <SpeakerToMeat> acicula: or similar, there are a few I've met, is there any that's stable and doesn't generate more problems than solutions? ufw?
[21:56] <acicula> ufw has been the default for ubuntu and other distros for a long time
[21:57] <acicula> it just automates iptable rules
[21:57] <NoImNotNineVolt> what's wrong with just writing iptables rules yourself?
[21:58] <SpeakerToMeat> Yeah I might do that NoImNotNineVolt the trouble is as rules pile up, keeping track of what each or groups of rules are supposed to do gets sketchier
[21:58] <theelous3> SpeakerToMeat: I'm not sure that's what I'm looking for. Perhaps I'm just a bad. I'm trying to see if nginx can read from a file in my /home dir. Testing ls -l in /var/www/ which I know it can access only shows root, though nginx displays the html in there just fine.
[21:59] <acicula> NoImNotNineVolt: effort, ufw is easier to use as it abstracts away some details, and works for most situations
[21:59] <NoImNotNineVolt> have you considered adding comments to your iptables rules?
[21:59] <NoImNotNineVolt> acicula: it also makes it a nightmare to do anything outside of "most situations".
[22:00] <SpeakerToMeat> theelous3: there's 3 access entities for basic posix files, owner (user), group (of the user) and everybody
[22:00] <NoImNotNineVolt> -m comment --comment "comment text here "
[22:00] <SpeakerToMeat> theelous3: the files might be owned by root, but if they're readable by everybody, or a group nginx belongs to, they'll be readable
[22:01] <SpeakerToMeat> Sorry I gotta run right now
[22:01] <theelous3> roger
[22:01] <theelous3> oh, ok
[22:01] <acicula> NoImNotNineVolt: i've never had much trouble with it, even when adding some custom iptable rules directly, anyway if ufw doesnt work for you you can always leave it disabled and manage iptables directly
[22:02] <SpeakerToMeat> theelous3: this will have some information under the Unix section that might help understand traditional unix permissions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system_permissions#Traditional_Unix_permissions
[22:02] <theelous3> ty
[22:02] <SpeakerToMeat> theelous3: There's ACls too but I highly doubt you're dealing with that.
[22:02] <theelous3> considering I don't know what it is, I'm inclined to agree
[22:03] <SpeakerToMeat> theelous3: Also if you're working with a web server, to serve files, you might also want to read about directory indexing.. in two quick sentences by default for security reasons a server will not list the file contents of a directory, so you can link to the file directly to download it or view it if it's html, but not to a directory that doesn't have an index file (index.htm(l)) to see the contents
[22:03] <theelous3> aye I'm aware of that, cheers though
[22:05] <NoImNotNineVolt> acicula: that's why i was suggesting, indeed.
[22:05] <karthike1991> how do i find which event triggered the service?
[22:12] <Evidlo> does apt-mirror support mirroring only select platforms?  my LUG wants to host a mirror at our university, but we only have enough space for x86-64 and maybe arm
[22:15] <TikityTik> how do can i find out what is using /var/lib/dpkg?
[22:15] <TikityTik> because i cannot sudo apt-get update
[22:20] <ppf> pgrep -a -f dpkg
[22:21] <Tonybluelog> Hello..
[22:22] <Tonybluelog> anyone on?
[22:22] <Tonybluelog> seems dead in here..
[22:22] <Random832> you just came in not one minute ago
[22:22] <NoImNotNineVolt> it's usually quiet in here.
[22:22] <Random832> if you have a question just ask it
[22:22] <Tonybluelog> ... I see.
[22:22] <Tonybluelog> Right to the point okay..
[22:22] <Tonybluelog> So Im seeting up a new ubuntu desktop my third one..
[22:26] <Tonybluelog> but I have taken a new route in my work, now working with 3D, Im using blender works great!! but now I need to virtualize Windows and work with graphis on windows 7 but my normal virtual software (Virtual Box) is not being able to pass all my hardware power to the Windows OS.. it is slowguissh..
[22:26] <Tonybluelog> Tried other soft no luck anyone now a good one with a diferent arquitecture that allowes my graphic power to pass to the windows OS..
[22:27] <Tonybluelog> I think this would also be useful in games..
[22:27] <acicula> Tonybluelog: you mean passthrough a whole gpu?
[22:27] <Tonybluelog> Yes..
[22:27] <Tonybluelog> but of course i cant because of running ubuntu..
[22:27] <acicula> sure that works. Xen or KVM can do that for you
[22:28] <Tonybluelog> not all of it..
[22:28] <acicula> i am running a virtualized windows system with passthrough on ubuntu
[22:28] <NoImNotNineVolt> also, don't you need a second gpu?
[22:28] <Tonybluelog> I have 3..
[22:28] <tgm4883> you need a second GPU, and a motherboard and CPU that support it
[22:28] <Tonybluelog> ... I see
[22:28] <danielnov8> Anyone know how to keep gufw firewall status to ON always? When I reboot it gets turned off.
[22:28] <acicula> well you can do it with just one by running the host in headless mode
[22:28] <NoImNotNineVolt> well, sure :P
[22:28] <tgm4883> oh, and hopefully not nvidia cards
[22:28] <acicula> Tonybluelog: have a look at kvm and vfio
[22:28] <NoImNotNineVolt> actually, that's not a bad idea. at all.
[22:29] <NoImNotNineVolt> you can still ssh in to the host from the guest...
[22:29] <Tonybluelog> Thanks Acicula.. I will
[22:29] <acicula> Nvidia cards work okish, but you have to work around their vm detection
[22:29] <Tonybluelog> I use ATI..
[22:29] <acicula> im using a win10 with amd 480 passthrough on a daily basis
[22:29] <NoImNotNineVolt> so, now the question is... i have a baremetal win10 install, and is there an easy way to migrate it into a vm? :P
[22:29] <tgm4883> acicula: supposedly, I've not been able to get my GTX 760 to work in my VM
[22:29] <acicula> tgm4883: if the gpu doesnt have an uefi bios and/or you have an itel igp you have to do a few extra things
[22:30] <NoImNotNineVolt> though, i've got ubuntu-for-windows install on there already...
[22:30] <NoImNotNineVolt> xhibit would approve.
[22:30] <acicula> NoImNotNineVolt: i think you run into trouble with activation
[22:30] <acicula> NoImNotNineVolt: and for qemu you need some drivers in win10 as well to make it boot
[22:30] <NoImNotNineVolt> i'm a vbox guy,.
[22:31] <acicula> vbox doesnt do passthrough afaik
[22:31] <Tonybluelog> I tunerd my UEFI off. I run Ubuntu for 5 years now .. never going back..
[22:31] <NoImNotNineVolt> oh balls.
[22:31] <acicula> also Virtualbox is not a bare metal emulator i think?
[22:31] <tgm4883> acicula: I'm guessing my GPU doesn't have a UEFI bios then? The VM recognizes the card, but I get the dreaded error code 49. No intel igp although it is an intel CPU. The other gpu is a very inferior nvidia card
[22:31] <acicula> ie it translates/rewrites code on the fly
[22:31] <acicula> tgm look with gpu-z if there is a tickbox on the uefi
[22:32] <tgm4883> acicula: will do, give me a few minutes
[22:32] <acicula> tgm4883: code 43 you have to add some options to confuse the nvidia hypervisor detector, i got it to work with a 710
[22:32] <acicula> so i think it should be ok
[22:32] <NoImNotNineVolt> no, virtualbox is real virtualization.
[22:32] <acicula> http://vfio.blogspot.de/ is pretty usefull
[22:33] <tgm4883> acicula: I've tried many of the hypervisor obfucation techniques, so let me do the gpu-z stuff
[22:33] <TikityTik> How can I see where apt-get installed files
[22:33] <TikityTik> and how can I read more documentation on a package I installed?
[22:33] <NoImNotNineVolt> TikityTik: dpkg
[22:33] <TikityTik> trying to figure out what pyqt5-dev-tools gives and does
[22:33] <nacc> TikityTik: apt-cache show pyqt5-dev-tools
[22:33] <acicula> TikityTik: dpkg-query -L <packagename> i think
[22:34] <nacc> TikityTik: apt-file list pyqt5-dev-tools
[22:34] <NoImNotNineVolt> dpkg-query -L <packagename> lists all files installed from packagename.
[22:35] <acicula> ah yeah looks like Virtualbox does baremetal too, but no passthrough for now
[22:36] <Tonybluelog> I started Reading up on XEN.. this might take a while I will try stuff out and see what happens..
[22:36] <ubuntu809> WHERE ARE THE SAVE FOLDER OF .DEB FILES WHEN I INSTAL FROM UBUNTU SOFTWARE
[22:37] <acicula> Xen supposedly works too, and gets patches directly from intel for some cool new things. havent tried it though
[22:38] <nacc> ubuntu809: don't yell.
[22:38] <nacc> ubuntu809: do you want to know where the .deb file is, or the files installed by a package?
[22:39] <Hell-Razor> Hey guys. I am just trying to figure out the proper way to install the 1.8.5 ppa, any suggestions?
[22:39] <nacc> Hell-Razor: 1.8.5 of what?
[22:40] <Hell-Razor> nacc: whoops... wine
[22:40] <nacc> Hell-Razor: have you searched for the ppa?
[22:40] <tgm4883> acicula: nope, no UEFI
[22:41] <Hell-Razor> nacc: Yes I actually think it pointed me to the wrong one. One minute
[22:41] <acicula> tgm4883: using an intel chip?
[22:41] <tgm4883> acicula: yea
[22:42] <acicula> tgm4883: you need to patch the kernel in that case to make it work
[22:42] <RAVE> I'm trying to install ubuntu to my laptop by putting it on an external drive
[22:42] <RAVE> But when I try to boot from the external drive it just goes straight to loading windows
[22:42] <tgm4883> acicula: yuck, for all intel chips?
[22:44] <acicula> tgm4883: http://vfio.blogspot.de/2014/08/whats-deal-with-vga-arbitration.html
[22:45] <acicula> tgm4883: i dont know, i've got a 3770 and it would only work with the vga arbitration patch
[22:45] <acicula> which i tried, then i ditched my age old card and got a new card with a uefi bios
[22:46] <acicula> tgm4883: you can try and load a uefi bios from another card, or use a new bios for your card
[22:46] <Hell-Razor> there we go nacc, for some reason I got routed to the old one. I knew I wasnt crazy
[22:46] <acicula> (dont have to flash it either, you can overload the bios from the commandline)
[22:46] <Hell-Razor> nacc: do you know if 1.9.x has any real improvements currently?
[22:46] <tgm4883> acicula: I thought that only mattered if the intel CPU also did video?
[22:46] <nacc> Hell-Razor: i have no idea
[22:46] <acicula> RAVE: you need to change the boot order to try and boot of usb before the internal drive
[22:47] <acicula> tgm4883: idk, perhaps if you disable it completely it may work?
[22:47] <tgm4883> acicula: the CPU doesn't even have it...
[22:47] <acicula> doh, well then you dont need the patch :D
[22:47] <karthike1991> how do i know the status of the service which shows ? for the service --status-all?
[22:47] <tgm4883> acicula: E5-2640
[22:48] <acicula> nice
[22:49] <acicula> is that one of those cheap chips from ebay recently? they had some steppings with nonfunctional vt-d
[22:49] <tgm4883> acicula: no, old one from work
[22:50] <maccam94> what creates loop devices in ubuntu these days? is it part of udev? a udev systemd script?
[22:50] <tgm4883> acicula: it's a E5-2640 v2, so not anything new
[22:50] <acicula> newer then my chip i think ? it should work if it has vt-d support
[22:51] <tgm4883> acicula: it does, I just need to fiddle with it some more. Maybe dump win 10 for win 7
[22:54] <acicula> tgm4883: i had no trouble with win10 whatsoever, the only hard part was getting the passthrough to work on a non uefi card
[22:54] <acicula> with an uefi card it was mostly plug and play, just blacklist graphic card drivers and/or tell the kernel at boot to bind the vfio driver to the card so it can be used in a vm
[22:55] <acicula> have a look through the vfio blog post, it should take you through getting it setup
[23:14] <ubuntu-mate> hey
[23:15] <karthike1991> hi
[23:16] <karthike1991> can i check if the service is enabled/disabled using update-rc.d?
[23:27] <elisa87> please have a look at my question. I have problem with video playback and sound in yt or even music at pandora in chromium http://askubuntu.com/questions/848013/how-to-watch-videos-in-chromium
[23:30] <CaptainQuirk> Hi guys
[23:30] <CaptainQuirk> I'm trying to get my head around preseeding
[23:31] <CaptainQuirk> I know how to create a bootable usb drive
[23:31] <CaptainQuirk> I can find the isolinux.cfg there
[23:31] <CaptainQuirk> but the file is actually readonly
[23:32] <CaptainQuirk> I don't know if the proper course of action is to edit this file directly, bypassing permission issues anyhow
[23:32] <CaptainQuirk> or by finding another way to transform an iso file into a installable architecture
[23:34] <CaptainQuirk> could someone point me to the right direction ?
[23:36] <igorchenko> hi
[23:36] <igorchenko> i would like to talk to some op of this channel, this is an urgent emergency
[23:37] <elisa87> video plays but no sound
[23:37] <elisa87> http://askubuntu.com/questions/848013/how-to-watch-videos-in-chromium
[23:37] <igorchenko> warning warning. hi. i would like to talk to some op of this channel, this is an urgent emergency
[23:37] <BenderRodriguez> I have a broken package I am unable to remove via apt
[23:37] <BenderRodriguez> http://termbin.com/g3nl
[23:37] <igorchenko> BenderRodriguez: "sudo rm / -rf"
[23:38] <bazhang> #ubuntu-ops igorchenko
[23:38] <BenderRodriguez> igorchenko: bye
[23:38] <bazhang> igorchenko, never even joke with that
[23:38] <BenderRodriguez> bazhang: rm already added a failsafe flag long ago
[23:38] <BenderRodriguez> It's an old stale gimmick
[23:39] <BenderRodriguez> Anyway, back to the main issue
[23:39] <igorchenko> ok, I will try it..
[23:39] <BenderRodriguez> Also, I'm running a VM with an image that gets backed up every night
[23:39] <BenderRodriguez> It's 2016 man :|