[14:13] <ht3k> NVIDIA proprietary drivers are point point. AMD on the other hand...
[14:14] <rockstar_> How can I annotate(highlight) pdf with Okular, such that it is also visible in windows?
[14:14] <raojin> hello  everyone
[14:15] <ht3k> raojin: hi
[14:15] <Rene_> i had problems with cuda when my card was new, later it worked good
[14:15] <rockstar_> I know this is Ubuntu application specific question, but enlighten me if anybody knows the answer. :)
[14:15] <Rene_> 42 ?
[14:15] <raojin> how  do we speak with voice?
[14:16] <Pici> raojin: on IRC?  You don't.
[14:17] <kanupatar> Rene_: hello
[14:17] <Rene_> o/
[14:18] <kanupatar> installed another kernel
[14:18] <kanupatar> but same issues persists
[14:18] <kanupatar> any file system corruption?
[14:18] <kanupatar> now I have 3.13..0-32
[14:18] <Rene_> your problem is to start x right , that you do not get in to the gui ?
[14:18] <kanupatar> and 49
[14:18] <kanupatar> Rene_: yes
[14:18] <OerHeks> startx is depreciated, use sudo service lightdm start.
[14:18] <Rene_> what graphics card are you using ?
[14:19] <kanupatar> Rene_: how can I check?
[14:19] <Rene_> yeh i think he can not start x at all, but does a sudo service lightdm start do anything ?
[14:19] <OerHeks> maybe worth a !factoid
[14:21] <Rene_> try glxinfo
[14:21] <Rene_> it should give a vendor name etc
[14:21] <chotaz`w> anyone fluent in sed? I'm been trying to replace any occurrences of 'Icon=/some/path/here.png' to 'Icon=here' on all my .desktop files. I used the following regexp https://regex101.com/r/jX4vA7/1 and it /should/ work, but the result I'm having is none of the like. I ran sudo sed -i -r -e 's:(Icon=).*/(.*)(.png):&&:g' *.desktop
[14:21] <kanupatar> lightdm -> cannot start
[14:21] <Rene_> glxinfo
[14:21] <kanupatar> glxinfo-> not installed
[14:22] <kanupatar> going to install that now
[14:22] <Rene_> in the lines there is your card name like with me
[14:22] <kanupatar> Rene_: ?
[14:22] <Rene_> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GTX 660/PCIe/SSE2/3DNOW!
[14:22] <Rene_> do glxinfo in a console
[14:22] <Rene_> search for the crad name
[14:22] <Rene_> card*
[14:22] <kanupatar> Rene_: oing to install that
[14:23] <kanupatar> *going
[14:23] <kanupatar> Rene_: hold on
[14:23] <wafflejock> kanupatar, you can find your graphics card using, lspci -k, or sudo lshw, as well
[14:23] <kanupatar> wafflejock: wait
[14:24] <OerHeks> kanupatar, did you manage to put that initrd.img back ?
[14:24] <kanupatar> OerHeks: installed kernel
[14:24] <kanupatar> and I can see it
[14:25] <kanupatar> sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic***
[14:25] <kanupatar> sudo update-grub
[14:25] <kanupatar> now I see three kernels
[14:25] <Rene_> :D
[14:25] <kanupatar> 32-lowlatency
[14:25] <kanupatar> 32
[14:25] <kanupatar> 49
[14:25] <kanupatar> :P
[14:26] <OerHeks> kanupatar, so you have initrd.img in / ?
[14:26] <kanupatar> OerHeks: yes
[14:27] <kanupatar> both old and
[14:27] <kanupatar> other
[14:28] <kanupatar> Rene_: unable to locate glxinfo
[14:28] <kanupatar> wafflejock: lspci -k, or sudo lshw , what is the exat grep string?
[14:28] <Rene_> you need to know your gpu, because then you can simply download and install the driver from ati or nvidia, and it will repair x, if you then want to use the ubuntu suplied driver you can set it again from the gui
[14:29] <zombyrad> try lspci | grep VGA
[14:30] <kanupatar> zombyrad: Rene_ wafflejock OerHeks Intel second gen core family integrated controller rev 09
[14:30] <TJ-> kanupatar: "lspci -nn | grep '\[030'  "
[14:30] <Rene_> or intel :')
[14:30] <Rene_> mmmm
[14:30] <kanupatar> TJ-: Rene_ Intel Intel Intel :(
[14:30] <zombyrad> Intel *should* be supported in the kernel, no?
[14:30] <Rene_> idk if they suply drivers for linux lets search
[14:31] <kanupatar> Rene_: my machine was working for the last one year
[14:31] <kanupatar> today only the issue came
[14:31] <TJ-> kanupatar: Silly question. Tell us the precise PCI ID of the device that the command I gave you reports, its at the end of the line and surrounded by square brackets, e.g. [10de:06f8]
[14:31] <Rene_> im told to do a
[14:31] <Rene_> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[14:31] <OerHeks> Intel is supported in the kernel, if you want glxinfo, READ the error, it gives you a hint what package you need.
[14:31] <Rene_> mm wait
[14:31] <Rene_> thats a distro update
[14:32] <kanupatar> Rene_: ?
[14:32] <zombyrad> yeah, hold off on upgrades...
[14:32] <Rene_> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[14:32] <TJ-> kanupatar: That PCI ID is what device drivers use to uniquely identify the hardware they support, and we can check which driver supports that ID very easily
[14:32] <ronal> Hello!¿Skepak in spanish?
[14:32] <Rene_> sounds better
[14:32] <ronal> skeak
[14:32] <ronal> speak
[14:32] <ronal> x_x
[14:32] <Amm0n> iirc intel dropped support for new drivers in 14.04
[14:33] <kanupatar> TJ-:  not clear man
[14:33] <Rene_> The Intel graphics driver is part of the xserver-xorg-video-intel driver package, which is installed on all Ubuntu systems by default. And since it isn't a proprietary driver package, it doesn't show up in jockey (aka the Hardware Drivers application).
[14:33] <OerHeks> Amm0n, wrong
[14:33] <zombyrad> So, Intel should be working without any extra stuff, hmm
[14:33] <Rene_> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel should reinstall it if its lost
[14:33] <ronal> Problem games run dirver grafcis [No GPU]
[14:33] <TJ-> !es | ronal
[14:33] <ronal> garfics
[14:33] <OerHeks> !es | ronal
[14:34] <kanupatar> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel --> installinh
[14:34] <ronal> Gracias ubottu
[14:34] <ronal> Yes!!! kanupatar
[14:34] <ronal> No
[14:34] <kanupatar> ronal: ?
[14:34] <ronal> no funcion
[14:34] <kanupatar> Rene_: installed
[14:34] <kanupatar>  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[14:35] <kanupatar> what I should do next?
[14:35] <zombyrad> try rebooting now to load the driver
[14:35] <Rene_> try to boot see if it fixed anything
[14:35] <SlowLight> guys, anyone knows how many hours till the 15.10 final is released?
[14:35] <kanupatar> Rene_: startx failed
[14:35] <Rene_> you booted ?
[14:35] <kanupatar> Rene_: no
[14:35] <zombyrad> kanupatar: did you reboot?
[14:35] <OerHeks> SlowLight, less than 24 hrs, join #ubuntu-release-party for the announcement
[14:35] <kanupatar> just tried startx
[14:36] <Rene_> reboot the system for the drivers to load
[14:36] <chri5p> 15.10?
[14:36] <TJ-> Rene_: No need to reboot for an xorg driver change
[14:36] <Rene_> ow
[14:36] <OerHeks> LoLz, again: startx is depreciated, use sudo service lightdm start.
[14:36] <SlowLight> thanks
[14:36] <kanupatar> rebooting ......
[14:36] <ronal> Super tuxkart message: "driver grafics lost" Alienarena: NO OK resolution my machine: 1440x900
[14:36]  * kanupatar is very excited with the channel support
[14:36] <TJ-> Rene_: restarting the X server is sufficient for that. Only need to restart the system if a kernel level driver already has control of the device and an alternative kernel driver needs to be used, such as switching between Nouveau and Nvidia
[14:37] <Rene_> im sorry :)
[14:37] <kanupatar> .....
[14:37] <kanupatar> .....
[14:37] <Rene_> xD
[14:37] <kanupatar> seems stuck
[14:37] <kanupatar> !
[14:37] <kanupatar> ubuntu bubbles!!!
[14:37] <kanupatar> .....
[14:37] <kanupatar> 8 th time
[14:37] <kanupatar> need to wait?
[14:37] <kanupatar> 10th time
[14:37] <Rene_> is there an back up x11.conf file
[14:37] <kanupatar> ......
[14:37] <Rene_> in etc/x11
[14:38] <kanupatar> Rene_: wait
[14:38] <OerHeks> kanupatar, easy on the enter please
[14:38] <Rene_> maybe its corrupted the one ur using
[14:38] <ronal> Goodbye, i bad english!
[14:38] <Rene_> try to copy x11.conf for backup and replace it with x11.conf.old
[14:38] <TJ-> kanupatar: read the log file for clues: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:38] <kanupatar> is there an back up x11.conf file ?
[14:38] <skkkky> hi all
[14:38] <Rene_> yes normaly there is
[14:38] <Rene_> in etc/x11/
[14:39] <Caleb--> how does the 14.10 -> 15.04 update procedure work? i just did apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade but i don't see anything
[14:39] <skkkky> ubuntu 15.04 released or not?
[14:39] <somsip> skkkky: yes
[14:39] <ronal> #ubuntu-es
[14:39] <OerHeks> Caleb--, just wait for the release
[14:39] <TJ-> kanupatar: Rene_ In most systems the X server autoconfigures and no "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" exists. There is only such a file if the system needs non-automatic settings
[14:39] <somsip> OerHeks: my bad - still not announced?
[14:39] <Caleb--> OerHeks, ah, woops, i saw it on phoronix
[14:39] <Rene_> or from x11.conf~
[14:40] <OerHeks> 9 minutes ago not, as i can read in #ubuntu-release-party
[14:40] <Rene_> ubuntu doesnt have an x11.conf ?
[14:40] <Caleb--> OerHeks, any idea if i need to manually remove PPA i've added?
[14:40] <Rene_> this is from the nvidia driver ?
[14:40] <Caleb--> PPAs*
[14:40] <kanupatar> hello
[14:41] <Rene_> o/
[14:41] <zombyrad> non-free nvidia still uses xorg.conf I believe
[14:41] <kanupatar> [20:07] <Rene_> in etc/x11
[14:41] <kanupatar> ?
[14:41] <schwing> Caleb--: i just joined to asked that same question!  :)
[14:41] <Rene_> TJ can you help kanupatar> then :) ?
[14:41] <OerHeks> Caleb--, that would be a good thing to do, before upgrading. upgrade disables ppa's but i can imagine that it would mess up
[14:41] <skkkky> there's nothing in its web page http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[14:41] <Amm0n> OerHeks, https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2015/intelr-graphics-installer-linux-1.0.8
[14:41] <Rene_> as then i dont know i dont got an intel gpu
[14:42] <OerHeks> Amm0n, known site, bad driver for ubuntu.
[14:42] <skkkky> when is it gonna be released?
[14:42] <Rene_> i thought he might have nvidia or ati and could easily reinstall drivers
[14:42] <mantys89> http://www.noobslab.com/2015/04/ubuntu-1504-vivid-vervet-has-been.html
[14:42] <Rene_> from the ati or nvidia site
[14:42] <Caleb--> OerHeks, so after upgrade i would have to manually re-add all PPAs? or just re-enable them?
[14:42] <kanupatar> any clues anyone?
[14:42] <kanupatar> am stcuk
[14:42] <kanupatar> stcuck
[14:42] <kanupatar> stuck
[14:43] <Rene_> yeh im unsure how to repair your setup, people r telling me its not in x11.conf if its not nvidia :(
[14:44] <schwing> Caleb--: looks like you can remove PPAs with the same add-apt-repository command by passing it -r <the PPA>
[14:44] <Rene_> it's weird as your gpu should be recognized automaticly
[14:44] <skkkky> why i can't upgrade my 14.10 to 15.04 ?
[14:44] <kanupatar> Rene_: I am totally lost all
[14:44] <mantys89> http://www.noobslab.com/2015/04/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-1504-vivid.html
[14:44] <Rene_> oh wait intel does suply drivers
[14:44] <Rene_> can u read webpages ?
[14:45] <Rene_> https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/13815/Intel-Graphics-Drivers-for-Linux-
[14:45] <kanupatar> Rene_: still I am confused if it is x11 issues
[14:45] <OerHeks> Rene_, don't point him at webpages with intel drivers
[14:45] <wafflejock> SlowLight, 15.04
[14:45] <kanupatar> any file system related issue?
[14:45] <zombyrad> Rene_: the intel driver should work automatically too...
[14:45] <OerHeks> that page is a bad driver for ubuntu
[14:45] <kanupatar> it was working last day
[14:45] <OerHeks> Rene_, he messed up his system by removing initrd.img, so advise him to backup data and reinstall
[14:46] <ChunkzZ> where is ubuntu based? what country?
[14:46] <Rene_> oke i dont know about intels drivers, but i do know that installing drivers also normaly fixes any iddues with the system settings automaticly
[14:46] <wafflejock> yeah Rene_ no need for any extra installs for Intel drivers that are built in to work something else is wrong
[14:46] <Zeedox> I've had some apt issues lately. Either apt output stops or the computer crashes. This is the latest output. https://gist.github.com/strokirk/5d4810762105382cb8ce
[14:47] <kanupatar> OerHeks: :(
[14:47] <kanupatar> Rene_: :(
[14:47] <Zeedox> I'm a bit worried about corrupting something by ctrl-c:ing the update-grub step.
[14:47] <Rene_> he can alwyas go back to ubuntu's drivers if the drivers script would auto fix the problem to start the gui,  thats the idea behind it anyway
[14:47] <kanupatar> Rene_: OerHeks I have internet working in the console
[14:47] <gingermouse> ChunkzZ: Ubuntu is developed worldwide. There isn't really a single place that it's based.
[14:48] <kanupatar> I can do whatever to fix the issue...
[14:48] <kanupatar> please suggest
[14:48] <ChunkzZ> gingermouse, okay. just it's nearly 4pm and sitll no release..
[14:48] <L0chl4nn> can I completely purge dpkg and then reinstall it after? **Ubuntustudio 14.04.2**
[14:48] <zombyrad> OerHeks: if he removed his initrd, can't he rebuild it?
[14:48] <Rene_> how does intel then read settings if it doesnt use x11.conf ?
[14:48] <SlowLight> @wafflejock yup, sorry my mistake, meant 15.04
[14:49] <kanupatar> TJ-: gone?
[14:49] <zombyrad> Rene_: Xorg uses autodetect for most of its settings now afaik
[14:49] <wafflejock> SlowLight, no big deal just figured I'd throw the correction out there, always year.month 2015.04
[14:49] <johnv> I need my 15.04.
[14:49] <kanupatar> Rene_: also the network only works in recovery mode
[14:49] <Zerkalerka> johnv: me too
[14:49] <TaZeR> johnv: motion seconded
[14:49] <kanupatar> something happened to the fs?
[14:50] <TaZeR> its like waiting for crack
[14:50] <OerHeks> !drugs
[14:51] <wafflejock> I think last year it came out on the 28th for my b-day
[14:51] <wafflejock> nice to get new Ubuntu on your b-day
[14:51] <Pici> !party
[14:51] <SlowLight> @wafflejock thats interesting, I didn't know that!! thanks for sharing
[14:53] <Rene_> what ubuntu version are you using kanupatar ?
[14:53] <L0chl4nn> does anyone know if I can I completely purge dpkg and then reinstall it after? **Ubuntustudio 14.04.2**
[14:53] <kanupatar> 14.04.1
[14:54] <Rene_> ah nvm only drivers anyway for 14.10
[14:54] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, not sure but what would you be installing dpkg with? also what's wrong with your current dpkg?
[14:55] <Rene_> udo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core
[14:55] <Rene_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[14:55] <Rene_> sudo update-alternatives --remove gl_conf /usr/lib/nvidia-current/ld.so.conf
[14:55] <Rene_> is suggested in one help topic
[14:55] <Rene_> sudo*
[14:56] <kanupatar> Rene_: need to do all?
[14:56] <Rene_> yes
[14:56] <L0chl4nn> wafflejock: I'm getting all kinds of errors with dpkg. Countless hours on Google and trying "fixes" have not fixed the problems.
[14:56] <kanupatar> Rene_: please hold
[14:56] <Rene_> first line udo = sudo
[14:56] <kanupatar> Rene_:  I need to type
[14:56] <L0chl4nn> wafflejock: according to what I can find dpkg is only "half installed" ... which doesn't make sense to me
[14:57] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, well would suggest backing up before you try anything with dpkg but can reinstall dpkg using sudo apt-get install dpkg --reinstall, but with regard to purging it then installing I don't believe apt-get can operate without dpkg so you'd probably need to build it from source, have never tried though
[14:58] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, is this a new install?
[14:59] <L0chl4nn> wafflejock: everything is already backed up as a "just-in-case" fail safe... Yes this is a fresh install, only 2 days old
[14:59] <kanupatar> Rene_: unable to locate package libg11-mesa-glx
[14:59] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, you still have the install media? would be worth checksumming it and verifying the hash from wherever you downloaded it from
[15:01] <Rene_> sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx
[15:01] <L0chl4nn> wafflejock: checksum was done before making the liveusb and then installed from there. It was downloaded from the ubuntu torrent *this is my first time ever using one of the torrents to download ubuntu*
[15:01] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, dpkg itself wouldn't have a problem that's something that would be caught before release I'm sure, I imagine something got corrupted somewhere along the way though, could be something bad in the download or transfer to installation media which a checksum could tell you
[15:01] <kanupatar> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[15:01] <L0chl4nn> wafflejock: I will do a fresh download and install again if it is the "best" option
[15:01] <Rene_> sudo apt-get install libglu1-mesa
[15:01] <kanupatar> g1l
[15:01] <Rene_> maybe that one too
[15:02] <faust> L0chl4nn: maybe it is your usb key that is broken
[15:02] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, should be able to checksum the usb device as well just to verify everything copied over correctly
[15:02] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, if the checksum matches you can be sure the data is the same
[15:02] <philip_> command to install application like java
[15:02] <Rene_> sudo apt-get update
[15:02] <L0chl4nn> faust: same usb key was used the day before to isntall Ubuntu Server onto another machine and all went well with that install. Only difference was that I didn't use torrent to download that image
[15:02] <philip_> please what is the command to install application like java
[15:02] <OerHeks> Can somebody help me ? because some key is missing, we wait 5 days for Firefox 37.0.2 https://launchpadlibrarian.net/203615172/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-arm64.firefox_37.0.2%2Bbuild1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_BUILDING.txt.gz
[15:03] <kanupatar> Rene_: wait
[15:03] <kanupatar> I am doing this in recovery mode
[15:03] <kanupatar> taking time
[15:03] <philip_> command to install jre-8u45-linux-x64.tar.gz
[15:03] <philip_>  file
[15:03] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, okay if you checked it after download though I wouldn't suspect the torrent being a problem (really the torrents checksum everything too)
[15:03] <faust> L0chl4nn: if the checksum was correct it doesn't matter if you downloaded it via torrent
[15:03] <link123> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/ubuntu-15-04-download-new-features
[15:04] <L0chl4nn> wafflejock, faust, checksum passed after downloading.
[15:04]  * faust didn't know that there is someone who actually uses torrent for ubuntu's iso :P
[15:04] <philip_>  file
[15:04] <philip_> command to install jre-8u45-linux-x64.tar.gz
[15:04] <L0chl4nn> faust: this was my first time using torrent....
[15:05] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, need more info on the exact errors you're getting
[15:05] <Rimes> I'm messing around with Docker Containers and am trying to figure out how to get VI installed on a container.  The repository for VI is not on there, however, I have no idea how to add it given that I have no text editor to edit the repository list....
[15:06] <faust> L0chl4nn: anyway if you did a "fresh install" just a couple of days ago the "best" thing would be to reinstall the system, I don't knwo what exactly your problem is, but any solution that want you to remove you package manager is going to be messy. So, if you can, avoid it.
[15:06] <L0chl4nn> wafflejock: too many to list. which is why I was thinking a fresh install would maybe be the best option. especially since everything is already backed up
[15:06] <philip_> please command to install jre-8u45-linux-x64.tar.gz
[15:07] <L0chl4nn> faust: my thoughts exactly.
[15:07] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, yeah agree with faust would be good to try and figure out what the problem is but give it at least one more try with a fresh install and if you have the same problem then come back and can try to find the issue and find or file a bug
[15:07] <kanupatar> Rene_: done
[15:07] <TripWire> I'm looking for a way to automatically switch the sound to my HDMI device when I plug in the cable.  I found a solution online, but that's only for Ubunut 12.02 and I'm using 14.04.
[15:07] <OerHeks> philip_, unpack that tar first, click on it, and it opens in fileroller
[15:08] <L0chl4nn> Fresh install it is :) ... Thanks wafflejock & faust
 u installed the drivers with ? sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core
[15:08] <Rene_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:08] <OerHeks> !java |  better take a look at this page philip_
[15:08] <philip_> oerHeksam using the terminal .
[15:08] <Richard|> Hi, I'm currently booting Ubuntu 14.10 with the kernel 3.16.0-33, as the latest kernel causes an overheating problem with my laptop. If I upgrade to 15.04 will this cause any problems? Should I set GRUB back to default first?
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> philip_  it's a tar file, try tar xvf [package]
[15:08] <alexandros_tab> hi slacker, TripWire!
[15:08] <NoOova> Could i name a my own package 'logging'?
[15:09] <philip_> done that.After that what next
[15:09] <kanupatar> Rene_: I need to do this sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:09] <Rene_> k
[15:09] <somsip> !packaging | NoOova
[15:09] <kanupatar> Rene_: done
[15:09] <Rene_> if all is done and it worked, do a sudo service lightdm start
[15:09] <kanupatar> Rene_: now?
[15:10] <kanupatar> Rene_: job failed to stary
[15:10] <Rene_> :'(
[15:10] <kanupatar> I am in recovery mode
[15:10] <kanupatar> do i need to reboot ?
[15:11] <Rene_> you should not have to do that i was told, but you can try
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> philip_  is there no README that tells you how to continue?
[15:11] <Rene_> i will search see if i can findother solutions
[15:12] <kanupatar> Rene_:
[15:12] <kanupatar> ok
[15:13] <Rene_> is there no x11.conf in etc/x11 ?
[15:13] <gingermouse> xorg.conf
[15:13] <demahum> It says here https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/22/here-comes-kilo-15-05-containers-will-never-be-the-same-again/ that new Ubuntu is out, but when I go to the download page, there is no 15.04. Why is this?
[15:13] <Rene_> sorry
[15:14] <gingermouse> demahum: takes a while to get it on the download page.
[15:14] <Rene_> yeh xorg.conf in etc/x11
[15:14] <somsip> demahum: a few places are reporting it is out, but it's not. I got caught by one earlier. Look for official announcement on ubuntu.com
[15:14] <Rene_> i said it worng
[15:14] <gingermouse> Rene_: no worries! ;)
[15:14] <Rene_> :)
[15:14] <demahum> somsip: But this is from insights.ubuntu.com https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/22/here-comes-kilo-15-05-containers-will-never-be-the-same-again/
[15:15] <TaZeR> 15.04 iso's are out grab em here http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[15:15] <kanupatar> Rene_: wait
[15:15] <Pici> The isos might be ready, but the repository contents are still being finalized, I would wait to install until the announcement is made.
[15:15] <somsip> demahum: "today ...is released" not 'was' or 'has been'.
[15:15] <kanupatar> Rene_: no man
[15:16] <serenoa> does anyone know if 15.04 fixes the display bug with intermittently missing characters/letters
[15:16] <Rene_> no old xorg.conf ? like xorg.conf~ ?
[15:16] <kanupatar> Rene_: instead xorg.conf.failsafe is present
[15:16] <Rene_> oke try to copy that to xorg.conf
[15:16] <Rene_> cp xorg.conf.failsafe xorg.conf
[15:16] <demahum> somsip: And also it can be downloaded from here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/
[15:17] <kanupatar> Rene_: done
[15:17] <Rene_> and the try to start x again: sudo service lightdm start
[15:17] <kanupatar> reboot?
[15:17] <somsip> demahum: yes - see Pici's comments 2 mins ago
[15:17] <kanupatar> Rene_: same
[15:17] <kanupatar> :(
[15:17] <Rene_> :(
[15:17] <mcphail> serenoa: depends which display bug you're talking about. I think the bug with modern nvidia drivers and compiz is fixed
[15:18] <demahum> somsip: I have seen it. So does not that means it is released?
[15:18] <Rene_> im not realy sure where the problem is :'(
[15:18] <demahum> gingermouse: So, from your experience, how long it will take for it to be at the official download page?
[15:19] <Pici> demahum: personally, I expect it to land in the next 3 hours. Probably sooner.
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> demahum  any time now
[15:20] <serenoa> mcphail: i've seen it mentioned on forums, not sure if it has a bug reference. sometimes i get missing characters all over the interface w/ intel hd 5500. at the moment i can't see any keyboard input into unity dash at all
[15:20] <ig0r_> is 15.04 fully baked yet?
[15:20] <mcphail> serenoa: don't know about that one. Sorry.
[15:20] <gingermouse> demahum: maybe noonish if you're in the US.
[15:21] <Pici> ig0r_: yes
[15:21] <Rene_> it's strange as the intel gpu should be running standard
[15:21] <Pici> !outyet
[15:21] <faust> Is there any way to get "https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/index.html" in english instead of my l10n?
[15:23] <demahum> Pici, MonkeyDust, gingermouse: Thanks a lot. :D
[15:23] <ChunkzZ> !outyet
 no other solutions seem to pop up in the search as the drivers are normaly included in the kernel
[15:24] <demahum> ChunkzZ: :D
[15:24] <mcphail> Congratulations on the release, to everyone involved
[15:24] <ChunkzZ> I don't see a download link??
[15:25] <demahum> ChunkzZ: You are not the only one. :D
[15:25] <TaZeR> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[15:25] <TaZeR> all flavors are there
[15:25] <compdoc> Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) released
[15:25] <demahum> ChunkzZ: We just discussed it takes time to bring it to the download page. :D
[15:26] <kanupatar> Rene_: when I see the boot log, I see starting LighDM display manager failed
[15:27] <Rene_> yeh you can also not start it from the command line, something is going wrong
[15:27] <ChunkzZ> TaZeR, I don't do torrents.
[15:27] <mantys89> http://www.noobslab.com/2015/04/ubuntu-1504-vivid-vervet-has-been.html >> Download links in one place :)
[15:27] <Rene_> sudo service lightdm start , should start it otherwise
[15:27] <kanupatar> Rene_: any issues with runlevels?
[15:27] <OerHeks> ChunkzZ, then go to cdimage.ubuntu.com ?
[15:27] <dhaval2712> If I download ubuntu-server 15.04 and install kubuntu desktop, would I have driver issues as opposed to ubuntu desktop with Unity and everything?
[15:27] <kanupatar> hangs at boot sequence auditin
[15:27] <Rene_> i have no clue, im sort of at a loss what to do next
[15:28] <ChunkzZ> OerHeks, I would if it was there.
[15:28] <kanupatar> Rene_: its okay man
[15:28] <OerHeks> dhaval2712, do you have driver problems with the normal desktop 15.04 iso ?
[15:28] <dhaval2712> No I haven't tried it yet, however, I have had issues with Debian and Fedora with my Nvidia 750Ti
[15:28] <Rene_> it might simply be a wrong xorg.conf file, but idk how to get in the rigth one if all the apt-get updates etc didnt work
[15:29] <AirtelFanMan> hello ubuntu fans
[15:29] <dhaval2712> I'm asking if it would be better if I download Ubuntu Desktop. Is there a major difference between the Server and Desktop editions?
[15:29] <AirtelFanMan> when is ubuntu 15.04 releasing in GMT time ?
[15:29] <OerHeks> http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/
[15:29] <mcphail> dhaval2712: not major, no
[15:29] <Richard|> Hi, I'm currently booting Ubuntu 14.10 with the kernel 3.16.0-33, as the latest kernel causes an overheating problem with my laptop. If I upgrade to 15.04 will this cause any problems? Should I set GRUB back to default first?
[15:29] <dhaval2712> Cool. Thank you.
[15:29] <TandyUK> dhaval2712: the software installed by default is different, thats all
[15:30] <TandyUK> desktop has loads of stuff youd never need on a server
[15:30] <kanupatar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860612 Rene_
[15:30] <coolstar-chrome> I'm hosting a wifi network from my laptop with Ubuntu 14.04 but the devices on the network don't appear to be getting internet connection for some reason
[15:30] <coolstar-chrome> the devices are able to access my local apache2 server but are unable to connect to the internet
[15:30] <AirtelFanMan> has ubuntu 15.04 released officially ?
[15:31] <ChunkzZ> anyone else still not see the download?
[15:31] <coolstar-chrome> on my laptop I have Internet access on wlan0 and I'm hosting the network on wlan1
[15:31] <OerHeks> ChunkzZ, read back, i gave the url
[15:31] <gingermouse> ChunkzZ: few more hours, probably.
[15:31] <AirtelFanMan> Ubuntu 15.04 Launched or Not ?
[15:31] <ChunkzZ> OerHeks, I don't see it?
 yeh maybe reinstalling lightdm will fix some settings problem you could try it
[15:31] <TandyUK> AirtelFanMan: apparantly so http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/
[15:32] <AirtelFanMan> TandyUK: Is that officially released link or beta version ?
[15:32] <demahum> AirtelFanMan: It's official
[15:32] <ChunkzZ> no it's not lol -.-
[15:33] <AirtelFanMan> demahum: Ubuntu.com doesnt give any link , why ?
[15:33] <mantys89>  It's official, but not anounced... :)
[15:33] <TandyUK> maybe waitign for it to distribute to mirrors before making the announcement?
[15:33] <AirtelFanMan> When is the Ubuntu 15.04 launch party ?
[15:33] <AirtelFanMan> Any IRC channel for Ubuntu 15.04 launch party ?
[15:33] <demahum> AirtelFanMan: The Ubuntu on the link you have just seen is ubuntu.com.
[15:33] <pero> hola
[15:33] <SchrodingersScat> !party | AirtelFanMan
[15:33] <TandyUK> what launch party lol
[15:33] <ChunkzZ> OerHeks, what's the link? the one on that page is saying it was uploaded yesterday (uk)
[15:33] <gingermouse> AirtelFanMan: it takes a few hours for everything to get fully released. It will be available later today.
[15:34] <demahum> AirtelFanMan: It is releases.ubuntu.com
[15:34] <ChunkzZ> Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) (in development)
[15:34] <demahum> AirtelFanMan:  Her you can see that there are release notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes
[15:34] <ChunkzZ> 22-Apr-2015 12:31
 i found something new to try
[15:35] <demahum> AirtelFanMan: And here the news about release, again from ubuntu.com: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/22/here-comes-kilo-15-05-containers-will-never-be-the-same-again/
[15:35] <OerHeks> ChunkzZ, then don't download it if you feel that is not alright
[15:35] <coolstar-chrome> anyone know which kernel version is in Ubuntu 15.04?
[15:35] <mcphail> coolstar-chrome: 3.19.something
[15:35] <brainwash> coolstar-chrome: 3.19
[15:35] <ChunkzZ> OerHeks, I'm replacing windows so want to make sure. :)
[15:36] <U1510nameseeker> What will WW stand for?
 sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg  ;  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:36] <Ekushey> 15.04 released already?
[15:36] <coolstar-chrome> mcphail, brainwash: yay, now I don't have to upgrade the kernel manually to get my trackpad working :D
[15:36] <emapaere> is there any software i can use to read pdf and epub documents on xterminal
[15:36] <coolstar-chrome> (support for my laptop's trackpad was added in 3.17)
[15:36] <mcphail> ha! :)
[15:37] <votre_nom> hey!
[15:37] <demahum> Ekushey: Yes. It is.
[15:39] <OerHeks> emapaere, not that i know of, or think it would be usefull, reading epub/pdf in terminal ???
[15:39] <kanupatar> Rene_: now installing lightdm
[15:39] <kanupatar> and also installed gdm
[15:39] <ChunkzZ> !outyet
 try reinstall of xserver if lightdm reinstall fails
[15:39] <Rene_>  <kanupatar> sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg  ;  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:39] <OerHeks> uh oh, installing lightdm AND gdm ??
[15:40] <demahum> ChunkzZ: How do you explain the existence of release notes, if it is not released?
[15:40] <faust> Is there any way to get <faust> Is there any way to get "https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/*" pages in english, regardless of my browser language?
[15:40] <faust> ops
[15:40] <faust> Is there any way to get "https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/*" pages in english, regardless of my browser language?
[15:40] <AirtelFanMan> what is Snappy Core Image Install ?
[15:40] <U1510nameseeker> !ops topic needs updating
[15:41] <mcphail> AirtelFanMan: if you have to ask, you don't need to know :) Seriously
[15:41] <gp5st> http://dpaste.com/2TAG37A is this a bug in tr or expected behavior?
[15:41] <mcphail> AirtelFanMan: it is a new framework for a minimal ubuntu installation with new package manager
[15:42] <mcphail> AirtelFanMan: suitable for "the internet of things" and similar
[15:42] <Rene_> "the internet of hackable things" ftfy
[15:42] <AirtelFanMan> mcphail: okay
[15:43] <AirtelFanMan> Im a Geek :P
[15:43] <GatoLoko> is there an official code name for 15.10 already?
[15:43] <mcphail> Rene_: hackable in a good way, if you're using ubuntu core :)
[15:43] <Rene_> 15.04 \o/
[15:43] <Rene_> hehe :D
[15:43] <coolstar-chrome> !party
[15:43] <crankharder> does anyone know how I can connect to a headless vbox guest to install ubuntu-server?  assuming it has an IP assigned to it...
[15:43] <TripWire> Hi.....does anybody know a way to automatically switch the sound to my HDMI device when I plug in the cable.  I'm using Ubuntu 14.04.
[15:43] <AirtelFanMan> mcphail: Im geek, so i need one
[15:43] <TandyUK> crankharder: install the rdp plugin for vbox?
[15:44] <mcphail> AirtelFanMan: then join #snappy and get hacking!
[15:44] <crankharder> TandyUK: is that in the Extension Pack?
[15:44] <AirtelFanMan> mcphail: Are you a hacker ?
[15:44] <U1510nameseeker> Crankharder, I assume there's a way to do an unattended installation with some kind of answer file
[15:45] <ChunkzZ> !outyet
[15:45] <mcphail> AirtelFanMan: not in the hollywood sense
[15:45] <crankharder> U1510nameseeker: let's just assume i dont want to muck with that
[15:45] <mcphail> AirtelFanMan: but this is offtopic here
[15:45] <TandyUK> crankharder: yes
[15:46] <pero> bye
[15:47] <TaZeR> hey what do you guys think if i have ssd hardware encryption should i do software encryption with a password in ubuntu or will user and root password protect me enough?
[15:47] <AirtelFanMan> can we change root password in Ubuntu ?
[15:47] <Rene_> yes
[15:47] <Rene_> but not adviced
[15:47] <TaZeR> you set it during install i think
[15:48] <mcphail> TaZeR: depends on whether you trust the hardware encryption
[15:48] <Pici> !root
[15:48] <deshymers> so looking at https://code.launchpad.net/~sgringwe/+archive/ubuntu/rdio there doesnt seem to be a build for 14.0.4, anyone here build from source?
[15:48] <TaZeR> i think i trust it, its the samsung 850 evo
[15:48] <Rene_> the way root is set up it's best not to change the password yourself then it will be les safe
[15:48] <AirtelFanMan> Rene_: I dont think we have option to set it
[15:48] <TaZeR> fairly new drive
[15:48] <TaZeR> but im a paranoid type i might go for the extra layer of software encryption
[15:48] <Rene_> i think i read somewhere it's posible but then you lose some protections from ubuntu
[15:49] <TaZeR> maybe someone can somehow bruteforce my root password
[15:49] <TaZeR> its short because i have to keep entering it a lot
[15:49] <TaZeR> but encryption password i make impossible
[15:49] <TaZeR> yea ill go for both
[15:49] <AirtelFanMan> Why do other linux version offer changing root password then ?
[15:49] <TandyUK> "sudo su -; passwd;"
[15:49] <Pici> AirtelFanMan: did you read the link ubottu posted?
[15:50] <Rene_> yeh you can change it, but you break some other protections that are there to safe guard your root aco8unt
[15:50] <Rene_> its adviced not to change it
[15:50] <k1l_> AirtelFanMan: the ubuntu is not to use root user account at all. that doesnt interfer with what other OS do.
[15:50] <TandyUK> tbh thats a good reaso nfor me to ditch ubuntu then
[15:50] <TandyUK> I decide what happens, i dont need nannying
[15:51] <TandyUK> if you want to be nannied, use winblows
[15:51] <OerHeks> TandyUK, thanks for the rant.
[15:51] <TandyUK> np :)
[15:51] <TaZeR> windows is a very fine piece of software as well
[15:51] <Rene_> it's a protection sceme, i forgot how it works , you can change the root password but then ubuntu cant use its build in protections anymore
[15:51] <TaZeR> how else would we play all those great games!
[15:51] <k1l_> TandyUK: you can use the OS you want to. no problem. but that is just a false reason then. you can use sudo for all the tasks you want
[15:51] <TandyUK> crossover ;)
[15:51] <TaZeR> but windows 10 does look sucky, im sticking with 8 on my gaming rig
[15:52] <TaZeR> win 8.1 has been my favourite ever
[15:52] <Rene_> just make multi boot i can boot to 3 os'es :D
[15:52] <TaZeR> ill stick with it until support runs out
[15:52] <boshx_> oh dear
[15:52] <TaZeR> i would never boot into the other ones
[15:52] <Rene_> i stick with ubuntu for the steam support
[15:52] <TaZeR> what would the point be, id wanna be on my best os
[15:52] <k1l_> please put all the other talk to #ubuntu-offtopic or ##chat and keep this channel for support. thanks
[15:52] <Rene_> o7 yes sir
[15:53] <TaZeR> im banned from offtopic because i went offtopic-offtopic
[15:53] <TaZeR> anyway time to install, cheers yall!
[15:56] <marianne_> hey guys... remember a few days back when I came on and Firefox was being stupid and showing the browser in a different language? well now, the browser is fine, but StarzPlay says I'm in another country. I looked in the obvious places to check my location and it says I'm here stateside... any ideas on how to fix this?
[15:57] <AirtelFanMan> anyone using Free Internet ?
[15:57] <Rene_> what is StarzPlay a program or a website ?
[15:57] <petrvs> it's a video on demand channel/feed, I believe
[15:57] <marianne_> Rene_: website to stream movies and such
[15:58] <Rene_> ah
[15:58] <petrvs> marianne_: what says you're stateside?
[15:58] <marianne_> petrvs: I looked at the time setting ... and the location says Eastern...
[15:59] <marianne_> petrvs: but the StarzPlay site doesn't think I'm here...
[15:59] <petrvs> in what way does it suggest it thinks you're in another country?
[16:00] <marianne_> petrvs: brought the page up and it has the following message: Sadly, fans of our shows and movies in other countries, other planets and distant galaxies cannot access STARZ Play. You must be in the United States or a US Territory to watch.
[16:00] <k1l_> AirtelFanMan: what is the issue behind that question?
[16:00] <marianne_> petrvs: I accessed it fine 2 days ago
[16:00] <petrvs> marianne_: could just be a bad error msg that applies to more than what it's stated
[16:00] <AirtelFanMan> k1l_: I want to know if free internet is really available
[16:01] <k1l_> marianne_: do you use a proxy with firefox?
[16:01] <marianne_> k1l_: no
[16:01] <petrvs> marianne_: what're you using for starzplay, what plugin/s?
[16:01] <daftykins> marianne_: check your extensions and so on.
[16:01] <Rene_> you would think that geo-ip location is triggered on peoples ip adress
[16:01] <k1l_> AirtelFanMan: the internet is free. you just need an isp to take part. but what is the issue with ubuntu now?
[16:02] <guadalinex> hello
[16:02] <xrosnight> k1l_: i dont agree with you. it's not free in China. :(
[16:02] <Rene_> o/
[16:02] <Rene_> i doubt it's free anywhere
[16:02] <guadalinex> my name is gerard in mexico
[16:03] <Pici> marianne_: Typically these things use the ip that you are connecting to their website with, its likely nothing that you can change via Ubuntu itself.
[16:03] <petrvs> it's as free as you make it
[16:03] <ObrienDave> the internet is free. you have to pay a provider for access
[16:03] <Rene_> my nbame is rene in the netherlands :D
[16:03] <guadalinex> alguien en español
[16:03] <k1l_> !es | guadalinex
[16:03] <marianne_> Pici: makes sense...
[16:04] <Rene_> you could email the website see if there is a problem with your ip that they have made a mistake
[16:05] <marianne_> Rene_: i think it's the site its self... POC provider validations too
[16:05] <EriC^^> check what your ip is maybe, whatismyip.com it says the geo location
[16:05] <amari> http://www.ubuntu.com/ updated
[16:05] <Rene_> yeh thats why you might need to ask that website to look why your ip is blocked if it is in the usa, maybe they are using wrong settngs or you can get your ip unbanned
[16:06] <desperate_joe> hello...i've been here a few times already with the same problem, but up until now no help... so i hope today is different: HP laptop, dual boot (win7 and ubuntu 14) in win7 my homenetwork is ok, in ubuntu the same homenetwork for some reason is too slow to be workable almost every page is stopped loading due to timeout
[16:06] <ioria> wow
[16:06] <Pici> 70
[16:06] <EriC^^> Pici: why do you sometimes msg 70 randomly?
[16:06] <daftykins> desperate_joe: try alternate DNS servers such as Google's DNS service.
[16:06] <petrvs> desperate_joe: laptop model
[16:07] <Pici> EriC^^: because I forget to type the slash in /70 which is an irssi alias to go to window 70 (where I play trivia on IRC)
[16:07] <EriC^^> oh ok :)
[16:09] <daftykins> that too, was trivia
[16:09] <desperate_joe> hp pavilion
[16:09] <petrvs> 70, holy
[16:10] <petrvs> desperate_joe: how about the whole model #
[16:10] <petrvs> Pici: oooh yeah... trivia
[16:10] <reborn> has ubuntu mate release not yet?
[16:10] <desperate_joe> @daftykins? i'm a true noob... what do you mean with alternate dns servers?
[16:11] <petrvs> it's fairly unlikely your windows install is using different dns
[16:11] <k1l_> desperate_joe: you are talking baout wifi?
[16:11] <setre> Why is there no conkeror package in Utopic? :(
[16:11] <EriC^^> !info konqueror
[16:11] <desperate_joe> @kil, yes, sorry, wifi
[16:11] <EriC^^> setre: ^
[16:11] <desperate_joe> @petrvs... looking for the model
[16:11] <k1l_> desperate_joe: what wifi hardware is that?
[16:11] <mojtaba> Hi, I am trying to set a shorcut for Move window to workspace 1 to Shift+Alt+ctrl+1, but it does not work. Do you know what is wrong?
[16:11] <setre> EriC^^: not that. conkeror with "c"
[16:12] <setre> like i spelled it
[16:12] <petrvs> setre: because
[16:12] <setre> it's a keyboard focused web browser
[16:12] <petrvs> desperate_joe: should be on the bottom, or just under the screen's edge on the front
[16:12] <desperate_joe> the model is HP pavilion DV6.... i don't seem to find a sticker with more precise numbers
[16:13] <k1l_> setre: there was in 10.04. maybe thats dropped because there is no dev or no maintainer
[16:13] <desperate_joe> @klL... what do you mean with wifi hardware? how to know?
[16:13] <k1l_> desperate_joe: "lspci" will list the line for the wifi card
[16:13] <setre> i demand a support representative for Mark Shuttleworth foundation teleport themselves (or fedex) here right now and install conkeror on my machine.
[16:13] <mojtaba> Hi, I am trying to set a shorcut for Move window to workspace 1 to Shift+Alt+ctrl+1, but it does not work. Do you know what is wrong? I did not have any problem with setting of switch to workspace 1 to ctrl+alt+1
[16:13] <desperate_joe> DV6 6130sb (model laptop)
[16:14] <ObrienDave> setre, glwt
[16:14] <k1l_> setre: pay me one billion dollars and i will try to make that happen ;p
[16:14] <petrvs> desperate_joe: check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1962226 particularly the subsequent page/s
[16:15] <mojtaba> Hi, I am trying to set a shorcut for Move window to workspace 1 to Shift+Alt+ctrl+1, but it does not work. Do you know what is wrong? I tried other combinations too, like ctrl+f1. But it does not work. Any idea?
[16:15] <desperate_joe> 07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 06)
[16:15] <desperate_joe> 0d:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1030 [Rainbow Peak] (rev 34)
[16:15] <desperate_joe> is that the correct lines?
[16:16] <daftykins> mojtaba: you've come in here for years - you know NOT to repeat yourself.
[16:16] <petrvs> desperate_joe: first should be your ethenet, second your wireless
[16:16] <coolstar-chrome> desperate_joe:you have the Intel 1030
[16:16] <crint> tach
[16:16] <k1l_> setre: the conkeror project seemed dead from 2012 to 2014. so that seems like it got dropped because of that and no one started maintaining the package now
[16:16] <mojtaba> daftykins: I added some more info. :-P
[16:16] <jatt> was vivid released today?
[16:17] <Pici> jatt: indeed :)
[16:17] <Riddell> jatt: yep http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15.04
[16:17] <jatt> on my machine sudo do-release-upgrade says:
[16:17] <jatt> No new release found
[16:17] <coolstar-chrome> I have 2 wifi adapters on my school laptop, just to bypass my school's wifi restrictions xD
[16:17] <jatt> I'm using utopic
[16:17] <jatt> why?
[16:17] <setre> k1l_: perhaps you can help getting it maintained?
[16:18] <setre> or know how/where to ask
[16:18] <coolstar-chrome> jatt: I spoof mac address on one to join staff wifi. run hostapd on another to host a wifi network for my other devices
[16:18] <OerHeks> setre, iDue to the new Mozilla release schedule, Ubuntu kicked out Mozilla XULRunner and all its reverse dependencies (including Conkeror) in 11.04 Natty and later releases.
[16:18] <petrvs> coolstar-chrome: heh
[16:18] <philip_> please how can i install files which contains bin  COPYRIGHT  lib  LICENSE  man  plugin  README  release  THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME-JAVAFX.txt  THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.txt  Welcome.html
[16:18] <petrvs> desperate_joe: should be iwlwifi driver
[16:18] <k1l_> setre: sorry, i cant help. but you could start with filing a bug on launchpad.net
[16:18] <coolstar-chrome> about 2/3 of the students in my school run Ubuntu on the laptops
[16:18] <Rory> petrvs: did you read the file called README ?
[16:18] <coolstar-chrome> (mainly because Chrome OS sucks so much xD)
[16:18] <OerHeks> http://conkeror.org/InstallationDebian
[16:18] <desperate_joe> @petrvs... had a quick glance at your link, but the title says "no internet"... i have internet (the apps work ok), it is really my browser (i use firefox)
[16:18] <Rory> petrvs: It's literally called "read me"
[16:18] <setre> OerHeks: can you elaborate?
[16:18] <Rory> philip_: sorry my messages were intended for you, not petrvs
[16:18] <k1l_> setre: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[16:19] <desperate_joe> @petrvs... i have to type your command in my terminal then?
[16:19] <setre> OerHeks: I fail to see the problem, sorry
[16:19] <desperate_joe> iwlwifi?
[16:19] <petrvs> desperate_joe: too bad you didn't have a quick glance at my actual msg
[16:19] <petrvs> desperate_joe: no
[16:19] <OerHeks> setre, xulrunner is removed, so is conkerer. see http://conkeror.org/InstallationDebian
[16:19] <philip_> no
[16:19] <setre> k1l_: thank you
[16:20] <philip_> please how can i install files which contains bin  COPYRIGHT  lib  LICENSE  man  plugin  README  release  THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME-JAVAFX.txt  THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.txt  Welcome.html
[16:20] <setre> OerHeks: yes, but I don't understand how Mozilla's release schedule warrants package removal
[16:20] <petrvs> philip_: for what?
[16:20] <Rory> philip_: What are you trying to install?
[16:21] <setre> OerHeks: do you?
[16:21] <Tekkkz> hello
[16:21] <Tekkkz> can someh
[16:21] <philip_> i downloaded the application and trying to install the application
[16:21] <Tekkkz> can someone help me configuring udev rules for an arduino clone
[16:21] <Rory> philip_: What is the application? it may be available in the package manager
[16:21] <setre> OerHeks: thanks for the link though!
[16:21] <Tekkkz> the udev rule which works on arch likux doesnt work on ubuntu, the device is marked as busy then
[16:21] <OerHeks> setre, well, that is the info i have, did you read that conkerer page ?
[16:21] <ivan_on_trac> I use some text GUI applications. What is the name of a font. You can make the best appearance. Ubuntu server.
[16:21] <philip_> jre-8u45-linux-x64.tar.gz
[16:22] <Rory> !java | philip_
[16:22] <setre> OerHeks: Yes I have looked at it
[16:23] <setre> OerHeks: not having packages loses the whole point of having a distro though
[16:23] <Pici> 70
[16:23] <reborn> Same system requirement, yes?
[16:23] <philip_> i have done that but still
[16:24] <desperate_joe> @petrvs let's start over, i'm at a loss... what is it you want me to do? i'm looking at your link, but don't understand which step to take, and the topic seems no internet, not "slow internet" ... i am at wifi now
[16:25] <smallfoot-> Thanks for 15.04, it is awesome! :)
[16:26] <nalmicore> Is there a way to force ubuntu to run a script when shutdown gracefully?
[16:26] <k1l_> desperate_joe: sorry, got distracted. it seems that this card you use is having issues with the n-draft thing and the linux driver
[16:26] <asta22> hello. what's it called that repository that has untested packages?
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> philip_  wgaqt does the readme file tell you to do?
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> what*
[16:27] <philip_> it talks about the license
[16:27] <k1l_> nalmicore: anacron ?
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> philip_  then simply install java from the repos, no need to use the tar you are using
[16:28] <desperate_joe> @klL... i have no idea what is the n-draft ... but the one million dollar question: can you guide me through it? or ... would it be advisable to actually install the 15 and hoping that the problem won't arrise there?
[16:28] <daftykins> boot a live session of 15.04 sure, but it's unlikely to solve your problems
[16:28] <daftykins> no need to go all the way through an install to find out
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> !isitoutyet
[16:29] <k1l_> desperate_joe: its the "fast" wifi connection band.
[16:29] <zaggynl> my mouse stopped scrolling
[16:29] <zaggynl> xev doesn't show any input for scrolling up or down, rest of the keys work
[16:29] <k1l_> desperate_joe: try this one: http://askubuntu.com/a/533271/31260
[16:31] <mac33> is yet available 15.04?
[16:31] <k1l_> mac33: it is
[16:31] <mac33> thank you
[16:31] <desperate_joe> options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1 wd_disable=1 .... so i just type this in my terminal?
[16:32] <k1l_> desperate_joe: no. put that in the file mentioned
[16:32] <k1l_> desperate_joe: "sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf"
[16:32] <mac33> ubuntu 15.04 wayland or Xserver
[16:33] <k1l_> then drop that line into there. then ctrl+o for saving, ctrl+x for exit
[16:33] <k1l_> mac33: xserver
[16:33] <k1l_> mac33: wayland is not usable with desktops on daily business
[16:33] <mac33> I read something about wayland and I thought it was ready
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> !wayland | mac33 maybe you read this
[16:34] <k1l_> mac33: wayland ist kind of ready. but the desktops that use wayland are not ready.
[16:34] <mac33> ok+
[16:34] <petrvs> it'll be ready when it's ready
[16:35] <desperate_joe> i did the nano ... appeared a text... just at the line at the bottom? and then how to save?
[16:35] <k1l_> desperate_joe: at the bottom
[16:35] <desperate_joe> *just PUT the line at the bottom ...
[16:35] <k1l_> desperate_joe: re read what i wrote. is explained how to save in nano
[16:38] <desperate_joe> how to exit/save?
[16:38] <desperate_joe> i got disconnected... don't know if i missed some messages... i put the lines at the bottom... how to save/exit this screen?
[16:38] <mac33> bye to all.....I gonna try 15.04
 then drop that line into there. then ctrl+o for saving, ctrl+x for exit
[16:39] <fxmulder> I have a custom kernel installed, if I apt-get dist-upgrade will that override my custom kernel?
[16:39] <k1l_> fxmulder: remove the linux-generic package
[16:40] <sundev70> Anyone know a firewall/filter for internet traffic that would filter out windows viruses...wanted to pass through linux before going to windows virtual environment
[16:40] <sundev70> ?
[16:40] <desperate_joe> there are some commands at the bottom of the screen yes, ^x to exit, but it doesn't close
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> !av
[16:40] <wafflejock> desperate_joe, ctrl+o to save ctrl+x to exit
[16:41] <desperate_joe> ok, done
[16:42] <wafflejock> sundev70, basically can use clamav to scan for windows viruses, can use fail2ban to block IPs that are attempting/failing auth and the like based on scanning logs for failures
[16:42] <desperate_joe> now basic restart?
[16:42] <k1l_> desperate_joe: yes
[16:42] <admin3> how can i give have access to create new folder on my htdocs?
[16:43] <wafflejock> admin3, the user needs write permission or the group needs write permission and the user needs to be a part of the group, one of the two
[16:43] <desperate_joe> ok.... i'll see what it does... if i don't come back is because it works or because my wifi does not work anymor ;) ... thanks already for your patience!
[16:43] <admin3> i  am admin
[16:44] <wafflejock> admin3, if you are running as root then you can write anywhere and shouldn't have a problem using mkdir
[16:45] <admin3> in my htdocs how can i create coz i couldn't
[16:45] <wafflejock> admin3, need to see what command you ran and what error you got
[16:45] <wafflejock> !doesntwork | admin3
[16:46] <phpcoder> hello
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> admin3  what's the outcome of   groups
[16:46] <phpcoder> how can i upgrade my ubuntu to 14.10
[16:46] <phpcoder> and then to 15.04 ?
[16:46] <ht3k> phpcoder: You can do sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> phpcoder  fresh install is faster, easier, cleanier... stick to 14.04 LTS is better
[16:47] <ht3k> phpcoder: Make sure your sources manager has "search for any new version" instead of "long releases"
[16:47] <phpcoder> ht3k, i am using 14.04
[16:47] <admin3> i have not the chance to make a folder in my htdocs (XAMP)
[16:47] <phpcoder> but if i do do-release-upgrade
[16:47] <phpcoder> there is nothing
[16:47] <k1l_> phpcoder: make sure the release-prompt is not set to "lts only"
[16:47] <ht3k> phpcoder: Check the option I just mentioned :)
[16:47] <phpcoder> ht3k, can i pass from 14.04 to 15.04 directly?
[16:47] <k1l_> !xamp | admin3
[16:48] <k1l_> !xampp | admin3
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> phpcoder  you can't, have to go via 14.10
[16:48] <freak3> how sudo restart systemd-logind on 14.10?
[16:48] <admin3> ya lampp
[16:48] <freak3> restart: Unknown job: systemd-logind
[16:48] <freak3> any idea?
[16:48] <phpcoder> pardon but
[16:48] <phpcoder> 14.10 is using an older kernel then 14.04
[16:48] <phpcoder> is not a problem ?
[16:49] <ht3k> phpcoder: not if you're going to upgrade to 15.04 anyway
[16:49] <phpcoder> MonkeyDust, yeah i know but i have many programs configuration etc etc...i can not do a fresh install
[16:49] <ht3k> Gotta go restart, my release-upgrade is done!
[16:49] <phpcoder> ht3k, is it a big problem downloading new version in this way?
[16:49] <phpcoder> is a lot of better a fresh install ?
[16:50] <k1l_> phpcoder: you need to upgrade to 14.10 then to 15.04
[16:50] <phpcoder> k1l_, yes sure... i will upgrade to 14.10 and then to 15.04
[16:50] <k1l_> phpcoder: look at the system settings -> software and updates and set the release prompt to every release and not "lts only"
[16:50] <MrNumber3isme> Hello room
[16:50] <phpcoder> but is really bad do it ?
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> phpcoder  then it's safer to stick to your release
[16:51] <phpcoder> k1l_, ok
[16:51] <phpcoder> but guys
[16:51] <k1l_> phpcoder: no its not bad to do.
[16:51] <MrNumber3isme> I need help with a permissions issue with my SD card. anybody game?
[16:51] <Caleb--> upgrading ubuntu like a bawss!
[16:51] <k1l_> phpcoder: but you need to upgrade every 6 months then
[16:51] <phpcoder> k1l_, yes not a big problem but
[16:52] <phpcoder> upgrading the system will decrease the performances?
[16:52] <phpcoder> is it better a fresh install ?
[16:52] <phpcoder> or does not change too much ?
[16:52] <pheelter> phpcoder: shouldn't be much of a difference
[16:52] <daftykins> those who have truly worked in IT don't believe in upgrades ;)
[16:53] <wafflejock> personally stick with LTS on my work machine and prefer doing clean installs when they release, backup my whole machine using Clonezilla and backup my /home folder to an external drive
[16:53] <k1l_> phpcoder: upgrading is fine.
[16:53] <phpcoder> k1l_, ok
[16:53] <daftykins> wafflejock: +1 to clonezilla's genius
[16:54] <newuser789> clonezilla or rsync ? for backup
[16:54] <wafflejock> daftykins, yeah I configured a 1TB external HD enclosure to boot with clonezilla it's pretty sweet
[16:54] <wafflejock> newuser789, rsync is better for regular file backups clonezilla is more like disk imaging saves it in tar.gz files that are harder to individually load
[16:55] <admin3> u can't help me for lampp?
[16:55] <newuser789> wafflejock: I mean in respect for backups of full encrypted disks
[16:55] <phpcoder> k1l_, do-release-upgrase is available for 15.04 ?
[16:56] <phpcoder> now i am upgrading to 14.10
[16:56] <pheelter> phpcoder: it is now
[16:56] <k1l_> phpcoder: yes. but you need to go to 14.10 first
[16:56] <daftykins> admin3: your first time administrating a web server?
[16:56] <wafflejock> newuser789, yeah for full disk backups clonezilla is nice, it's basically dd plus tar.gz and runs lshw and a few other things to get a few reports on the state of the machine when it was backed up, rsync has the ability to recover though so better for network based backups
[16:56] <phpcoder> do-release-upgrade will install it sequentially?
[16:56] <phpcoder> i mean 14.10  than 15.04 ?
[16:57] <MrNumber3isme> I need help with a permissions issue with my SD card. anybody game?
[16:57] <k1l_> phpcoder: no. it will upgrade to 14.10 then stops. then you make a reboot. then you do it again to go to 15.04
[16:57] <phpcoder> ok
[16:57] <k1l_> phpcoder: just give it a go. its not rocket science :)
[16:57] <Z3_> Hi. It's possible to install mir display server (a complete version for normal use) in Ubuntu 14.04 ? If not, will it be possible before Ubuntu 16.04?
[16:57] <ki7mt> pheelter, k1l_ FWIW - I would not recommend upgrading more that two stages e.g. 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04 .. You'd be better off, in the long run, installing 15.04 directly.
[16:57] <newuser789> wafflejock: what I want is a backup of 1TB of internal HD backedup to an 1TB exteral enclosure, how to do it ? any pages or links ?
[16:57] <daftykins> MrNumber3isme: details?
[16:57] <phpcoder> k1l_, eheh ok
[16:58] <MrNumber3isme> When I plug my SD card in, it is automatically mounted as read only. happens with every SD card. the physical lock on the card is unlocked. using chmod does nothing for me. the only thing I've found with success is using mount --options remount,rwx /media/thomas/sdb1
[16:58] <wafflejock> newuser789, clonezilla is nice for the fact that it gives you a GUI and you can just boot it up on any machine and back it up/restore it even if it's not a linux machine
[16:58] <ki7mt> phpcoder, sri, that was for you not phee.. tab got me on that one.
[16:59] <k1l_> ki7mt: yes. if its about 3 updates you might be faster with a clean install. but on this case i think upgradeding twice is ok.
[16:59] <freak3> on 14.10, i did "sudo restart systemd-logind" but get error: "restart: Unknown job: systemd-logind" . How you fix this error?
[16:59] <ki7mt> phpcoder, k1l_, Only reason I say install 15.04 first, as that ill allow reaching 16.04 when it arrives.
[17:00] <rektide_> i've been using 3.19.0-10 and 3.19.0-14, and btrfs has corrupted my system such that it is unable to boot three times in three weeks
[17:00] <ki7mt> ..will allow ..
[17:00] <rektide_> has anything happened between the RC and release w/r/t btrfs?
[17:00] <JediMaster> hi guys, how can I run a command as www-data on 14.04 where the default shell is /usr/sbin/no-login? for example: su www-data /usr/bin/whoami returns: "This account is currently not available."
[17:00] <newuser789> wafflejock: but then how to restore clonezilla image ? you said its hard for individual images, further more the requirment is for fully encrypted disk, its different (backiup and recovery) than normal systems
[17:00] <wafflejock> newuser789, not really just the clonezilla site itself, which isn't anything to write home about http://clonezilla.org/ you just download the ISO though and burn it to a disk or google on how to setup a USB stick with clonezilla, personally I used Gparted to partition my external drive so I could have clonezilla on one partition it boots from and use the other partition for storing data from the internal drive, so I just have to
[17:00] <wafflejock>  boot off the external USB device
[17:01] <k1l_> ki7mt: nope. its not lts
[17:01] <wafflejock> newuser789, it gives you ncdu style menus for selecting if you want full disk or partition based backup or restore and then you select the target and destination and it pretty much handles the rest
[17:02] <wafflejock> newuser789, regarding the data being encrypted I don't believe it should make a difference what's in the blocks it's copying
[17:02] <newuser789> wafflejock: sounds easy but is it reliable ?
[17:02] <wafflejock> newuser789, yeah it's been around for a while and I've been using it for at least a few years without ever having a problem
[17:03] <OerHeks> rektide, btrfs is unstable
[17:03] <newuser789> OerHeks: me ?
[17:03] <wafflejock> newuser789, if something fails it lets you know and can do verification of everything if you so choose
[17:03] <jgoguen> I'm using network-manager-openconnect and network-manager-openconnect-gnome on Ubuntu 14.10. When connecting it pulls down a XML file that has, among other things, a list of what endpoints are available. Where does that file get stored?
[17:03] <ki7mt> k1l_, sorry I don't uderstand your meaning, what's not LTS ?
[17:04] <Arun_> guys, I needed to reinstall grub in my HD so that I can have dual boot my windos and linux, is there any small linux iso that I can use to update my grub fast ?
[17:04] <k1l_> ki7mt: 15.04 is not lts, so you need to upgrade to 15.10 and then to 16.04 when they are released
[17:04] <newuser789> wafflejock: ok, thnx. On second thoughts, what about about doing zsync on backups so that everything doesnt gets backed up everytime, just the changed/modified blocks
[17:04] <pheelter> Arun_: Just run boot-repair. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[17:05] <pheelter> Arun_: I mean, run boot repair on a Live CD after you installed/upgraded.
[17:05] <ki7mt> k1l_, Yes, of course, it would be 15.04 -> 15.10 -> 16.04 .. and all being on SysD.
[17:05] <MrNumber3isme> daftykins, any thoughts?
[17:05] <wafflejock> newuser789, haven't used that, for my regular backups I've just been using duplicity with the built in backup tool in Ubuntu Gnome, had used rsync before but never tried zsync
[17:05] <Arun_> pheelter, is it available for windows too? caiuse I have no linux iso available now.
[17:05] <Arun_> in my hdd, it was in ext4 partition
[17:05] <daftykins> MrNumber3isme: nope, remount seems like no hassle to me but not something i understand why is occuring.
[17:06] <pheelter> Arun_: Unfortunately, no. A CD/USB with a Live CD is required to automatically fix your dual boot for you after you installed the system.
[17:06] <wafflejock> newuser789, the duplicity program I believe is just doing incremental backups as well, but I don't really rely on it just have it there just in case, most of my actual important stuff is saved in git repositories
[17:06] <MrNumber3isme> arrrrghhh. Thanks anyway
[17:06] <ig0r_> the Ubuntu installer says "no root file system is defined". How do I define a root file system ??
[17:06] <Arun_> pheelter, ok , then I think I shall mount the ext4 partition to retrieve my iso
[17:06] <newuser789> wafflejock: so clonezilla will backup everything each time or it'd check for modified/newer blocks ?
[17:06] <freak3> how can i do this (https://help.ubuntu.com/15.04/ubuntu-help/power-closelid.html ) by command line
[17:06] <freak3> ?
[17:06] <wafflejock> newuser789, also setup an owncloud instance on digital ocean as a shared backup basically in place of DropBox cause we outgrew it and I'd rather run my own
[17:06] <k1l_> ig0r_: what install is it?
[17:07] <k1l_> ig0r_: do you use manual partitioning?
[17:07] <freak3> k1l_: hi
[17:07] <freak3> k1l_:  how can i do this (https://help.ubuntu.com/15.04/ubuntu-help/power-closelid.html ) by command line
[17:07] <wafflejock> newuser789, clonezilla is a straight full disk or full partition backup and the system can't be running, it's good for between big distro upgrades or right after getting a system stable
[17:07] <ig0r_> k1l_: yes I use manual partitioning
[17:07] <newuser789> wafflejock: throw some more light on it - owncloud, digital ocean
[17:08] <k1l_> ig0r_: then you forgot to mark one patition as be used for /
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[17:08] <SchrodingersScat> newuser789: I just started using duplicity for my /owncloud/
[17:08] <k1l_> altin: please no adverts in here.
[17:08] <ig0r_> k1l_: how do I do that in the installer?
[17:08] <pheelter> Arun_: It's worth the hassle. Better than trying to fix it yourself.
[17:08] <k1l_> ig0r_: its in the manual partioning process. just see the options you can sue there
[17:09] <newuser789> !owncloud
[17:09] <k1l_> *can use
[17:09] <wafflejock> newuser789, eh digital ocean is just a cloud hosting provider like amazon web services or google cloud or azure or whatever where you have some virtual server that you control, on DO they have 1 click installs and pretty cheap monthly servers like $5 or $10 OwnCloud is basically just an equivalent to DropBox except you run the server so your space is limited by how much server space you have
[17:09] <altin> k1l_: it's not an advert, but rather something good for the community :0
[17:09] <altin> :) *
[17:09] <Arun_> pheelter, yeah, I am gonna fix it now :D
[17:09] <pheelter> Arun_: Cool, enjoy.
[17:09] <newuser789> hmm
[17:09] <wafflejock> newuser789, plus side is owncloud you can control the user accounts a little better from what I've seen and you don't have to trust DropBox with their 1 key thing
[17:09] <SchrodingersScat> newuser789: oops, thought you were asking how to backup your owncloud, reading helped me here.  Note that owncloud is NOT a backup, just a sync.
[17:10] <newuser789> backing up to a cloud ? private, encrypted and secure ?
[17:10] <rektide_> OerHeks: no, Ubuntu is releasing a kernel with a known bad, non patched kernel
[17:10] <wafflejock> newuser789, basically I got to the point on DropBox that I had to pay them so figured I'd rather pay for a server and run it myself, and with a 1 click install there was no barrier to entry
[17:11] <rektide_> https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Gotchas
[17:11] <wafflejock> newuser789, can be you need to get an SSL certificate if you don't have one though I already had one so just added the subdomain
[17:11] <rektide_> OerHeks: if this were a 3.19.5 release happening today, systems would not spontaneously self immolate themselves regularly
[17:11] <k1l_> rektide_: did you file a bug? what did the kernel team say about it?
[17:11] <rektide_> OerHeks: but thanks for chiming in
[17:12] <wafflejock> newuser789, like SchrodingersScat said though more of a sync solution than a true backup service
[17:12] <rektide_> i'm banned from ubuntu forums because i complained that the SSO system was painfully bad for me to use
[17:12] <wafflejock> newuser789, think Tarsnap is a pretty cheap offsite backup solution but haven't used it myself
[17:12] <rektide_> so i didn't get a chance to discuss this issue
[17:12] <jmaradin> really tough to decide between mate and gnome at this point, both are nice.
[17:13] <rektide_> i suppose i could just straight file a bug but i was rather hoping to interact with people first to get my ducks in a row
[17:13] <k1l_> rektide_: if this is an issue then yu should file a bug on launchpad.net
[17:13] <cperrin88> I tried to use ubunut as a central rsyslog server but when I send syslog data of multiple servers ( like 10 or more) rsyslog repeates the messages while writing them to the disk.
[17:13] <cperrin88> Can anyone help with that?
[17:13] <SchrodingersScat> wafflejock: i like the idea of tarsnap, but I think it was going to be ~$50/month for me, just to store it :/
[17:13] <wafflejock> SchrodingersScat, hmm rough how much data is that?
[17:14] <SchrodingersScat> wafflejock: thought that was for ~200GB
[17:14] <wafflejock> actually Amazon glacier is super cheap but also haven't tried using it for anything yet
[17:14] <Ryans1230> I am attempting to drag the iso file into Disk Utility on Yosemite and it won't drop and can't write to disk except through Finder. Any advice?
[17:15] <OerHeks> rektide_, found the bugreport https://lists.launchpad.net/kernel-packages/msg113945.html
[17:15] <OerHeks> https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page#News
[17:15] <ParadoxHeart> Does any one know of a way to change screen resolutions in X from a terminal other than xrandr? I have a 4k display port 1.2 mst monitor and in order to get it to show up as one display, I needed to configure it with Xinerama and disable xrandr.
[17:16] <rektide_> "Bug Watcher Updater" says status went from Unknown -> Fix Released 3 hours ago for this btrfs bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1445252 . is there any way to see what was fixed?
[17:17] <rektide_> i'd like to ahve a kernel that doesn't self immolate the system
[17:17] <rektide_> i'm not sure where i go to get the fix though
[17:17] <wafflejock> SchrodingersScat, yeah if it can't get anything out of compression or deduplication that does seem about right
[17:18] <OerHeks> rektide_, fixed for debian, vivid is triaged, so they are working on it
[17:18] <cuddylier> Would anyone say this is slow for a 7200RPM harddrive in a dedicated server? http://pastie.org/pastes/10110026/text?key=n9abpof6wql0pcs7hvg5dg
[17:23] <wafflejock> SchrodingersScat, http://aws.amazon.com/s3/pricing/ <-- looks like tarsnap is basically upselling for ~10x the underlying storage cost, wonder if the compression and deduplication saves you more than that
[17:25] <oddman2236> Hello room
[17:25] <asta22> hello. how to install the newer libcurl in ubuntu?
[17:25] <JoeMorelloJM> howdy!
[17:30] <asta22> hello everyone. can someone please tell me, how do I install the newer libcurl in ubuntu?
[17:30] <asta22> or what's the name of those repositories that have the rolling release pakcages?
[17:31] <EvilCreep> What's the correct way to give www-data read/write access to a directory and a few files in a users home directory. I don't want web access to these files/folder just access to read and write to them via php scripts.
[17:32] <overclocki7> hi, i was wondering how one could overclock an i7 headless machine via software
[17:32] <ivan_on_trac> Does anyone know of a font text for tty console?!  Which is looking good frames.
[17:32] <overclocki7> I'm having trouble finding any setfsb tools for ubuntu
[17:33] <Guest1148> hello i have  prb when i want to open rar file with password  i try with rarcrack but they give me the same password and it dosen't work  i need help in this case
[17:33] <BluesKaj> overclocki7, why would you want to? this isn't 1998
[17:33] <overclocki7> @BluesKaj because I can't overclock via bios
[17:33] <marco__> ciao a tutti
[17:34] <IronicBadger> hello, would anybody here be able to assist me in compiling mhddfs please?
[17:34] <IronicBadger> http://svn.uvw.ru/mhddfs/trunk/README
[17:34] <BluesKaj> overclocki7, as if that's gonna make any difference in performance
[17:35] <overclocki7> @BluesKaj overclocking does make a difference in performance, which is why people do it
[17:36] <BluesKaj> not much anymore
[17:36] <Rory> Guest1148: unrar x -pPassword filename.rar
[17:36] <Rory> Guest1148: replace Password with the actual password
[17:37] <wafflejock> overclocki7, only if you're doing something that's actually eating the entire CPU it's really rarely necessary or a good idea (unless you're overclocking your raspberry pi or something, even then without any cooling failures happen)
[17:37] <ig0r_> I just downloaded and installed the latest Ubuntu release and I'm sorry but Mint is superior to Ubuntu (no trolling intended)
[17:37] <IronicBadger> ig0r_: i'll take the bait.... why?
[17:38] <ig0r_> IronicBadger: no bait just wanted to express my opinion.
[17:38] <overclocki7> @wafflejock I do use my entire cpu on a lot of heavy compute tasks (current cpu load is 8.42/8) which is why I am asking
[17:38] <wafflejock> ig0r_, better to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic if it isn't a support issue
[17:38] <IronicBadger> hello, would anybody here be able to assist me in compiling mhddfs please?
[17:39] <MonkeyDust> IronicBadger  ask your question and wait
[17:39] <wafflejock> ig0r_, sure your feedback if given in a reasonable way would be appreciated but try to keep this channel on support and less on opinions
[17:39] <zzxc> Hey does anyone know a good alerting system for new CVE or just general vulnerabilities?
[17:40] <ig0r_> I hear you wafflejock :)
[17:40] <overclocki7> @wafflejock also my cpu is watercooled so cooling failure is unlikely to happen- i just need to know how to bump up the fsb slightly
[17:41] <overclocki7> if it is even possible in linux
[17:41] <BluesKaj> overclocki7, perhaps the ppl at ##linux can help you
[17:42] <wafflejock> overclocki7, yeah have only done it in my bios I know there are some CPU governer things you can install but never really messed with it have just used the GUI tools for enabling power save mode and the like (can step down but not overclock)
[17:42] <cperrin88> If I send logs from more then about 10 servers to rsyslog it goes berzerk and repeats the last messages infinitily and writes them to the disk
[17:42] <BlueProtoman> How can I look at the information for my webcam?
[17:42] <BlueProtoman> Manufacturer, resolution, etc.
[17:42] <wafflejock> overclocki7, the raspi debian image has some tools built in to overclock the ARM processor in there too but not sure if it's applicable or what exact program it's using
[17:43] <wafflejock> BlueProtoman, lspci for built in lsusb for usb devices then look up the device id or manufacturer/model
[17:43] <overclocki7> @wafflejock not sure if that applies to me- i'm using an x86 processor and not an Rpi SoC
[17:43] <overclocki7> @BluesKaj thanks, i'll check it out
[17:43] <BlueProtoman> wafflejock...is there a GUI tool?
[17:44] <BlueProtoman> I just want to figure out if my camera is 8 megapixels or not
[17:45] <wafflejock> BlueProtoman, built in there's Cheese usually I install guvcview for more detailed control of the camera doesn't give much info about the hardware though
[17:46] <wafflejock> actually just started it from the command line looks like it does show the supported resolutions and such there
[17:47] <phpcoder> guys
[17:47] <phpcoder> i downloaded
[17:47] <phpcoder> ubuntu 15.04 for a laptop
[17:47] <daftykins> phpcoder: try and put it on one sentence please.
[17:47] <phpcoder> then i have installed fusoiso, how can i start it '
[17:47] <phpcoder> ?
[17:48] <phpcoder> *fuseiso
[17:48] <phpcoder> i need to start it like a "cdrom"
[17:48] <phpcoder> i just mounted it...then ?
[17:48] <daftykins> still spamming.
[17:48] <phpcoder> daftykins, pardon
[17:48] <jmacdonald> I apt-get updated nginx a few days ago and it appears to have overwritten the index.html file i had on a server... seems a bit odd that it didn't make a copy of my original one. thoughts?
[17:49] <daftykins> restore from backup
[17:49] <Guest1148> rory : thanks but i don't have passward i have rar file when i want toopen it it ask me for passward i need help
[17:49] <dbtid> so, I can't get the right time to show up on my dual-boot (win7, ubuntu 14.04) system.
[17:50] <jmacdonald> this isn't an important server, so recreating said index file isn't a night more. i'm more curious about why it may have happened.
[17:50] <wafflejock> jmacdonald, typically upgrades just update the binaries but don't install new configuration even then they rarely would modify your www folder but as daftykins said nothing to do but restore
[17:50] <dbtid> it thinks the clock is UTC, because it's showing NYC time as 9:54.
[17:50] <jmacdonald> ahem.. *nighmare*
[17:50] <dbtid> nothing on the web seems to fix this issue.
[17:50] <dbtid> any suggestions?
[17:51] <wafflejock> jmacdonald, if you are doing development just use a git repo for storing your code and make sure you regularly backup your server but in most cases a server upgrade shouldn't replace your /var/www files that said the last major upgrade for apache they moved the default from /var/www to /var/www/html
[17:52] <ki7mt> dbtid, What have you tried in order to resolve the tz issue?
[17:52] <jmacdonald> this is nginx. so /usr/share/nginx
[17:52] <jmacdonald> honestly this is just a home server that hosted a landing page for a bunch of other services.
[17:53] <jmacdonald> git is a good  idea, cause i don't really feel like setting up a backup for it.
[17:53] <wafflejock> jmacdonald, yeah either way typically a reinstall or an upgrade shouldn't be moving around your config files unless they had to change the format and should just be updating binaries
[17:53] <dbtid> i updated the tzdata files, and checked that /etc/localtime said "UTC=no"
[17:53] <dbtid> that's about it.
[17:53] <jmacdonald> yeah, it wasn't even config files that changed. it was an index.html file sitting somewhere.
[17:53] <dbtid> there's no adjustment in Unity's time/date settings.
[17:54] <wafflejock> jmacdonald, yup that's pretty shady, I typically still use Apache for most things, have played a bit with Ngnix but the small gains for me aren't worth changing over the configuration and replacing all the things done in Apache for redirects and compression and such
[17:55] <jmacdonald> Yeah, i sort of hucked it on the machine just as a taste test.
[17:55] <jmacdonald> and i think i was drunk at th etime.
[17:55] <ki7mt> dbtid, Go into unity search, typ time, select time && date, then on the GUI, click on the zone. or in the command line: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata  .. select, save, reboot.
[17:56] <dbtid> ok, i've done all that but the reboot.
[17:56] <dbtid> i forgot i'd done that.
[17:56] <phpcoder> how can u start an .iso mounted via fuseiso ?
[17:56] <dbtid> then i just have to reboot
[17:56] <dbtid> ki7mt: i'll let you know
[17:56] <dbtid> i have a long build running
[17:56] <dbtid> thanks;
[17:56] <jmacdonald> In other news... i just installed a linux desktop for the first time in 10 years on a laptop my boss recycled to me for tinkering with.
[17:56] <jmacdonald> came a LONG way :)
[17:57] <jmacdonald> wifi worked, all the werid touch volume buttons and youtube worked. i was smitten
[17:57] <wafflejock> jmacdonald, heh yeah it's been a good 10 years
[17:58] <jmacdonald> what apt incantation will tell me all files modified by a deb?
[17:58] <wafflejock> jmacdonald, people still seem to have quite a few video problems but wifi seems to be mostly a solved problem and all the desktop environments (Unity, Gnome, KDE, XFCE, etc.) are in pretty good shape
[17:59] <wafflejock> jmacdonald, dpkg -L packagename
[17:59] <jmacdonald> tankie.
[18:01] <phpcoder> someone ?
[18:02] <ki7mt> jmacdonald, how do you mean "modified" dpkg -L will tell you the status of the package but not necessarily "modified files?"
[18:02] <jmacdonald> well, i'd like to find out which package insatlled /usr/share/nginx/html/index.html
[18:02] <nullbyte_> how can i upgrade from apt-get to 15.04
[18:02] <EvilCreep> what is the correct way to give www-data read/write access to /home/Minecraft/server/playerdata so I can make changes to player's data with php/webpage? The Minecraft server runs under it's own limited account.
[18:03] <petrvs> nullbyte_: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[18:03] <daftykins> EvilCreep: create a group, add both users to a group.
[18:03] <daftykins> *that group.
[18:04] <EvilCreep> I don't want www-data to have access to all of the Minecraft server account.. just that one folder.
[18:04] <nullbyte_> petris: i mean from console not with a GUI app
[18:04] <daftykins> EvilCreep: yes thus you change the ownership on that single folder.
[18:05] <jmacdonald> okay  it was nginx-common.
[18:05] <petrvs> nullbyte_: it says how from console as well
[18:07] <ki7mt> jmacdonald, That's not so easy actually, you can look at the packages here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/nginx  by clicking on the list-of-files .. but it is most likly the core or full and either the default index page or documentation.
[18:08] <jmacdonald> yeah it was common
[18:08] <ki7mt> jmacdonald, and yes, it was / is nginx-common : http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/all/nginx-common/filelist
[18:12] <ki7mt> jmacdonald, Im sure there's a devscript ( from the packaging tools ) that will pull apart the file-lists, I just dont knwo what it is off the top of my head, but would be good to know for CLI use.
[18:15] <ki7mt> jmacdonald, Ok, this may do it: sudo apt-get install apt-file ; apt-file list nginx-common  ... that should work.
[18:16] <jmacdonald> neato!
[18:16] <brunch875> 15.04 broke connecting to irc via account-plugin-irc :(
[18:16] <EvilCreep> daftykins: Could you give an example? I'm a little lost on the whole groups thing. Won't putting two accounts in the same group give them access to each other files?
[18:16] <brunch875> can't select the server
[18:16] <ki7mt> jmacdonald, But you need to know the package .. lol .. so, it's a pandora's box I guess.
[18:17] <curiousx> !party
[18:17] <ki7mt> jmacdonald, dpkg --listfiles nginx-common .. but again .. need the package name ... a bugger this one is.
[18:18] <daftykins> EvilCreep: no, because the files have to be set accordingly.
[18:19] <jnhghy> I'm running ubuntu 14.04 and I have apache and other services installed for while now but didn't used them, now I want to run a php file but it gets displayed in the browser rather then run (I actually see php code) what can cause this? apache is running...
[18:19] <EriC^^> jnhghy: did you install php?
[18:20] <brunch875>  ¿Does anyone know how to manually configure telepathy for IRC?
[18:20] <jnhghy> EriC^^: good question, I did it once but I might have unsintalled it at some point ??? how can I find that out? apt-get?
[18:20] <EriC^^> jnhghy: apt-cache policy php
[18:21] <EriC^^> jnhghy: apt-cache policy php-common
[18:22] <jnhghy> EriC: php and php-common was not found by policy but I also tried to install them and I get same not found...
[18:22] <ki7mt> jnhghy, You may want to install the LAMP stack .. it's pretty robust using tasksel, but does install MySQL also.
[18:23] <EriC^^> !lamp | jnhghy
[18:23] <EriC^^> jnhghy: sorry it's php5-common
[18:23] <jnhghy> EriC^^, ki7mt: thanks for helping
[18:26] <ghostly_monk> hi
[18:27] <petrvs> hi ghostly
[18:27] <wafflejock> jnhghy, did a walk through vid on setting up lamp and some extra tooling for various web dev stuff, jump points in the description since you don't need the vbox setup https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQNbsCTFrAA tasksel is nice too though
[18:28] <Blkzer0> herro
[18:29] <Blkzer0> anyone does server work?
[18:30] <petrvs> Blkzer0: #polls
[18:30] <Blkzer0> thanks
[18:32] <Blkzer0> theres no one there
[18:33] <daftykins> Blkzer0: yes plenty of people do server work, can you turn that into an Ubuntu question now? :)
[18:33] <Blkzer0> I need a recommendation for a crm server
[18:33] <petrvs> Blkzer0: you're there
[18:34] <daftykins> Blkzer0: yeah that is not an ubuntu support question
[18:34] <Blkzer0> im the only one there
[18:34] <Blkzer0> :(
[18:34] <Blkzer0> whats a good channel to ask on?
[18:35] <ki7mt> Blkzer0, That's a huge topic .. the server itself, Ubuntu Server is fine, what you choose as the CRM application is up to you, there are many choices.
[18:35] <petrvs> http://alternativeto.net/software/dolibarr/?license=opensource&platform=linux
[18:35] <Blkzer0> ok than what kind of linux server is best to run it on
[18:36] <OerHeks> Blkzer0, how about Ubuntu-server?
[18:36] <jmacdonald> Blkzer0 ask on reddit.
[18:36] <Blkzer0> i asked on reddit
[18:36] <Blkzer0> i have a time limit
[18:37] <petrvs> as ki7mt said, it hardly matters
[18:37] <petrvs> pick a distro you're familiar with
[18:37] <Blkzer0> this kind of stuff is not even my field of work
[18:37] <petrvs> if you're not familiar with one, pick one after researching a bit
[18:37] <ki7mt> Blkzer0, not being confrontational, but "best" is really a matter of need. A 1 man-band may not need much, 60K employees, may need allot of infrastructure. But this is all OT here.
[18:38] <ioria> /extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/source   ended
[18:38] <Blkzer0> i was asked by my friend who works for some insurance company
[18:38] <McLeod> hello people
[18:38] <ioria> or what ?
[18:38] <petrvs> Blkzer0: well
[18:38] <McLeod> In Xubuntu to install AMD Catalyst drivers i use the option "Generate Distribution Specific Driver Package" or "Install Driver 14.501.1003 on X.Org 6.9 or later"?
[18:38] <petrvs> Blkzer0: if they want a good solution, they should probably _pay_ someone who knows what they're doing to set it up
[18:39] <petrvs> not for nothin'
[18:39] <jmacdonald> Blkzer0 you should tell your friend you don't know and that you have no experince in that field. just be honest
[18:39] <Guest38623> Hey peeps, if you want to convert a windows person what distro do you reccomend and why?
[18:39] <McLeod> i have a lot of problems intalling privative drivers
[18:39] <jmacdonald> even if you gave him one of our answers you'd be doing  him a disservice.
[18:39] <petrvs> Guest38623: depends on the windows version they're used to
[18:39] <Blkzer0> i know but money is tough to get these days
[18:39] <OerHeks> Guest38623, obvious, ubuntu
[18:39] <daftykins> !ati | McLeod follow the guides here
[18:39] <Blkzer0> im not doing this alone
[18:39] <petrvs> Blkzer0: educate yourself, then
[18:39] <Blkzer0> lol thats a good one
[18:39] <petrvs> heh
[18:39] <petrvs> oh dear
[18:39] <Guest38623> Because Ubuntu (with unity) can be kind of slow, even on good hardware.
[18:40] <petrvs> I can see why money is tough to get then :/
[18:40] <petrvs> Guest38623: depends on the windows version they're used to
[18:40] <OerHeks> Blkzer0, there are more lightweight desktops, try Xubuntu
[18:40] <Guest38623> What do you think of Mate?
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> Guest38623  it's realy nice to work with
[18:40] <petrvs> Guest38623: it's GNOME 2
[18:40] <OerHeks> err Blkzer0 sorry, not for you
[18:40] <petrvs> Guest38623: it's more like Mac OS, but you can configure it to appear much like Windows 2000-ish
[18:41] <petrvs> or "Windows Classic"
[18:41] <Guest38623> Its pretty similar in terms of UX to Windows
[18:41] <KeithWeisshar> Why am I not able to see any paid apps in the Ubuntu Software Center in 15.04
[18:41] <petrvs> you can also configure it to appear like 7 or 8
[18:41] <petrvs> probably with more effort (or more premade theme packs)
[18:41] <KeithWeisshar> when i switch to the for purchase page it's blank
[18:41] <ki7mt> Blkzer0, Your best approach, given the potential scale, would be to work with a CRM consultant, not Ubuntu support :-)
[18:41] <petrvs> Guest38623: it is, yes
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> and look like openSuse
[18:41] <Guest38623> I am actually installing it right now! Using the hexchat built in.
[18:41] <Blkzer0> i honestly am studying netsec, i dont know much about building servers or databases
[18:41] <Blkzer0> only breacking into them
[18:41] <petrvs> Guest38623: neat-o
[18:41] <Blkzer0> breaking*
[18:41] <KeithWeisshar> why are the for purchase apps not showing up
[18:41] <awal> Guys, there seems to be an issue with the trusty repositories.
[18:42] <dbtid> ki7mt: it's fixed now
[18:42] <dbtid> thank you
[18:42] <Guest38623> petrvs: Indeed
[18:42] <awal> http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-5.5/libmysqlclient18_5.5.41-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_i386.deb // is not accessible, though listed as a dependency for libmysqlclient
[18:42] <Blkzer0> i just thought that you guys might know something about this kind of deadl
[18:42] <Guest38623> What do you think of Arch.
[18:42] <ki7mt> dbtid, cool glad it's working.
[18:42] <Guest38623> xD
[18:42] <petrvs> Guest38623: it's another distro
[18:42] <KeithWeisshar> when i click on all software and then click for purchase it's blank
[18:43] <KeithWeisshar> why is the ubuntu software center not displaying paid apps
[18:43] <KeithWeisshar> or apps from partners
[18:43] <ki7mt> Blkzer0, I do, I've implemented several large scale CRM systems, my recommendation to you is, find a good CRM consultant :-)
[18:43] <Guest38623> petrvs: What if every distro is just based on windows running in a really good wine wrapper.
[18:43] <KeithWeisshar> why is it only showing software provided by ubuntu
[18:43] <petrvs> Guest38623: that'd be a fancy matrix indeed
[18:43] <daftykins> KeithWeisshar: you're going to want to stop repeating now.
[18:43] <petrvs> KeithWeisshar: what app are you looking for?
[18:44] <awal> umm, any ideas about my issue? I know I have just hopped in but the channel seems to be moving fast :P
[18:44] <Guest38623> Whats your problem Awal? Hang on.
[18:45] <KeithWeisshar> are paid apps only available on ubuntu devices
[18:45] <genii> awal: Did you do first: sudo apt-get update? The 5.5.41 version you are looking for which is not there has been superceded by version 5.5.43.
[18:45] <awal> Guest38623 trying to install libmysqlclient18:i386 on 14.04, and trusty repos return 404 :/
[18:45] <awal> ah, lemme tryr
[18:45] <ki7mt> KeithWeisshar, mostly, yes, unless you buy a product from the vendor directly.
[18:46] <Guest38623> Okay, well try update your repo's on your system. sudo apt-get update.
[18:46] <Guest38623> Perhaps if that fails you could download the tarball and compile from source ?
[18:47] <kostkon> KeithWeisshar, what version of ubuntu?
[18:47] <KeithWeisshar> 15.04
[18:47] <KeithWeisshar> 64-bit for pc
[18:47] <ki7mt> ^^ not wise to compile from source, unless you know what your doing.
[18:47] <ioria> awal http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libmysqlclient-dev
[18:48] <awal> ioria: I installed it, but skype is too adamant and wants the .41 version
[18:48] <ioria> oh
[18:48] <DJones> KeithWeisshar: Have you enabled the partner repositories in Software & updates on the other software tab?
[18:48] <kostkon> KeithWeisshar, ok, probably because it's new. Click on Edit -> Software Sources and enable all the repos, except Proposed. Do the same in the 3d part software tab as well.  Then hit reload, close the software centre and then maybe  check for updates, just in case, then reopen the osftware centre and search again
[18:49] <awal> seems like doing `apt-get update` did the job!
[18:49] <ioria> awal change the name and make it think that is .41 .. :P
[18:49] <Guest38623> Nice! It was that simple :P
[18:49] <awal> thanks a lot Guest38623!
[18:49] <Guest38623> Sometimes its the smallest things we overlook :) No problem.
[18:49] <awal> ioria: haha I actually was about to proxy those files :P
[18:49] <ioria> awal ^_^
[18:50] <Guest38623> I'm really starting to like Mate now.... Maybe too much. My only love has sprung from my only hate. :O
[18:50] <spoown> Hello everyone, is there someone from scotland ?
[18:51] <ki7mt> kostkon, KeithWeisshar sorry, forgot about using the SW center .. my bad.
[18:51] <Guest38623> spoown: I'm in the South of England, if that makes a difference....
[18:51] <Guest38623> spoown: whats your problem/question.
[18:54] <petrvs> spoown: yes I think some ones are from Scotland
[18:54] <ioria> spoown i love haggis, if it counts
[18:55] <petrvs> mmm haggis
[18:55]  * petrvs ponders vegetarian haggis
[18:56] <OerHeks> Strange animal, only living in Scotland, that Haggis
[18:56] <ioria> -*_*-
[18:58]  * EriC^^ googles haggis
[18:58] <daftykins> :D
[18:58] <ioria> we'll see this 3.19.0-15-generic how it moves
[18:58] <EriC^^> it looks photoshopped http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/Wild_Haggis.jpg
[18:59] <EriC^^> best how i can describe it
[18:59] <EriC^^> is that for real?
[18:59]  * daftykins chuckles
[18:59] <brunch875> that's hillarious
[18:59] <ioria> it's not an animal it's a meal !!!
[18:59] <DJones> When did release date change to April 1st
[19:00] <petrvs> heh
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> it's mariah Carey
[19:00] <EriC^^> lol
[19:01] <ki7mt> DJones,  rel-date for what?
[19:02] <jabbott> I'm getting black bars around my terminal window and some things like the drop downs in firefox when upgrading to Kernel 4.0 for Ubuntu 14.04.  Does anyone know why this happens and how to fix it?  http://screencloud.net/v/b5SQ
[19:02] <DJones> ki7mt: I was refering to the comments about haggis and the animal, made me think todays date was April fools day
[19:02] <ki7mt> LOL oh .. Ok
[19:02] <petrvs> no need for levity but once a year
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> jabbott  kernel 4.0 may be beyond the scope of this channel
[19:05] <ioria> !info xchat
[19:05] <genii> spoown: For more casual discussion not directly related to Ubuntu support, #ubuntu-offtopic is the better channel
[19:05] <petrvs> !info hexchat
[19:07] <yxhuvud> so, I'm getting 'could not calculate the upgrade'. Anyone know how to find info about exactly what it is that make it fail?
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> yxhuvud  what method did you try?
[19:08] <ioria> yxhuvud, gui ?
[19:08] <yxhuvud> both gui and tui.
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> yxhuvud  did you get the iso from ubuntu.com?
[19:09] <ki7mt> may want to state, upgrade from what --> to what also
[19:09] <devicenull> Am I doing something wrong with debconf? https://gist.githubusercontent.com/devicenull/40c80e71bf8ce21bff1f/raw/3e443af8e83848c4a9bc8990c764cf257b79255f/gistfile1.txt
[19:09] <devicenull> I'm trying to update the cloud-init datasources, but dpkg-reconfigure seems to just reread what I have configured, and not actually update it
[19:09] <yxhuvud> monkey: do I need to? I have never needed that for earlier upgrades.
[19:09] <yxhuvud> ki7mt: from 14.10.
[19:10] <ioria> yxhuvud, you are updating directly from Updater ...
[19:11] <yxhuvud> ioria: yes, and I've also tried sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:12] <ioria> yxhuvud, i just upgraded 5 minutes ago in Lubuntu...
[19:12] <ioria> yxhuvud, but this is a test machine...
[19:13] <yxhuvud> my guess would be that it is the third-party graphics drivers that is the issue, but it would be nice to have a smoking gun
[19:13] <ki7mt> yxhuvud, what were the exact commands you used in the terminal to try the upgrade.
[19:14] <yxhuvud> in the terminal? sudo do-release-upgrade, just as I stated.
[19:14] <ioria> yxhuvud, the command do-release-upgrade tells no rlease found , also after changing release-upgrades ?
[19:15] <yxhuvud> not for me. it says "Could not calculate the upgrade " and gives some suggestions for where to look but without giving any advice for where to look
[19:16] <Bashing-om> yxhuvud: What returns ' grep Prompt= /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ' ? And is all 3rd party PPAs disabled ?
[19:16] <ioria> yxhuvud, check /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log
[19:17] <yxhuvud> ioria: ah, 2015-04-23 21:12:00,400 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.'
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> ioria  +1
[19:18] <ioria> MonkyDust i'm just an humble servant ....
[19:18] <OerHeks> ""Could not calculate the upgrade, An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade. > This can be caused by:  * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu, Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu or Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu "
[19:19] <yxhuvud> thanks. that problem seems googleable. I'll return if I get further issues
[19:19] <genii> yxhuvud: Sounds like you probably have stuff installed by PPAs or possibly manually
[19:19] <EriC^> yxhuvud: try sudo apt-get -f install
[19:19] <ioria> yxhuvud, in Synaptic Pac Man there is a tool to fix it ... i think
[19:19] <ioria> yxhuvud, and also in Grub
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> yxhuvud  are you using alot of ppa's?
[19:20] <yxhuvud> genii: some of both. it was a real struggle getting the graphics card to work.
[19:20] <yxhuvud> monkeydust: a few.. mostly for aurora and modernized graphics driver.
[19:20] <ioria> yxhuvud, right ... you should remove ppa (not the program) for do-r-up
[19:21] <OerHeks> use the driver tool to reverse to the standard driver
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> yxhuvud  outcomment the ppa sources (not delete them), then apt-get update and retry to upgrade
[19:23] <kostkon> yxhuvud, you might need to purge the ppas as a last resort, not just disable them
[19:24] <kostkon> !ppapurge
[19:25] <Thete> This purple has got to go
[19:29] <nokio> Hi all, quick question is someone already did something similar. Can i use wget to wget a page on my website that has some javascript. and in turn i would be able to grep and build a list of url that are hit/generated by hitting that page?
[19:30] <nokio> Like a wget --spider or -m of that page but that would be able to do the javascript part
[19:30] <nokio> if i make any sense
[19:30] <ki7mt> yxhuvud, y-ppa-manager .. a bit ironic, as it's also a PPA, is a good tool for manging PPA's : linky: https://launchpad.net/y-ppa-manager
[19:30] <petrvs> nokio: you can manage that, it's not quite as simple as wget alone though
[19:31] <petrvs> nokio: what is it you want from the JS?
[19:31] <PooCocktailSupre> yohohoho
[19:31] <petrvs> & a bottle of rum
[19:31] <PooCocktailSupre> about how long does it take 15.04 to make it to the servers
[19:31] <PooCocktailSupre> w0000000t
[19:32] <nokio> petrvs well when i call the page it's some generic php code which that part is fine. That call a leaflet to get a list of tile to show on the screen (im playing with tile server). I want to be able to get a list of tile that are asked on that page so that i can use those direct url to do some benching :p
[19:32] <nokio> the leaflet thing is the .js thing
[19:33] <petrvs> PooCocktailSupre: not there already?
[19:33] <petrvs> nokio: you can probably just grep from wget for that
[19:34] <codezomb> just installed 15.04 my sounds cards are detected, and test buttons work. However, nothing else in the system will play sounds. Changing volume doesn't help, and I've checked to make sure it's not muted.
[19:34] <codezomb> the devide is Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> codezomb  did you use alsamixer, in terminal?
[19:35] <codezomb> anyone have any ideas?
[19:35] <codezomb> MonkeyDust: I've checked it, I see automute is on but I cannot change it
[19:36] <nokio> petrvs, i must be missing something. when i open the page and look at the source code it is exactly what i get from wget. But, if i open the develop consol i can see the png that are loaded and their url.
[19:36] <ioria> codezomb, what you mean ?
[19:37] <codezomb> MonkeyDust: disabled automute just now with no results. I've also restarted alsa
[19:37] <PooCocktailSupre> software updater has nothing for me
[19:37] <yxhuvud> yay. purging the mesa ppa seems to work. thanks again!
[19:37] <codezomb> ioria: by what?
[19:38] <PooCocktailSupre> ahh never mind
[19:38] <ioria> codezomb, 'I cannot change' ...
[19:38] <codezomb> ioria: I was able to change the automute. So that's not the issue :/
[19:38] <codezomb> I thought maybe it was interfering
[19:39] <codezomb> System Settings -> Sound -> Test Sound (I get sound here)
[19:39] <codezomb> however I don't get sound anywhere else
[19:39] <petrvs> nokio: right.. wget is not a JS interpreter
[19:39] <petrvs> nokio: however one doesn't usually need a complete JS interpreter to extrapolate what ones want from a JS source
[19:39] <nokio> petrvs would you know of a tool that could do that ?
[19:41] <tehcereal> hello im having trouble installing ubuntu on my laptop :S
[19:41] <petrvs> nokio: I could probably come up with one if I needed, but again, one rarely needs
[19:41] <tehcereal> i tried 14.04 and after the installation when i reboot i get an compiz related issue
[19:42] <tehcereal> i get to login and after i try to login it sits for few seconds only the background showing and returns me to the login
[19:43] <tehcereal> i tried the newest 15.04 and the same thing happened but without the error pop up
[19:43] <tehcereal> :S
[19:43] <tehcereal> i never had any issues with ubuntu and kubuntu i installed yesterday worked without problems
[19:44] <tehcereal> what could the problem be ?
[19:45] <maku_> Hi! Where can I get the public PGP key to verify this? http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/SHA256SUMS.gpg
[19:45] <codezomb> this is interesting... When clicking test on either front-left or front-right I get sound playing from other sources... So for example, if I have a video playing in firefox, and hit from left I get sound.                                                                                │
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[19:45] <codezomb> wtf
[19:45] <codezomb> bah, stupid terminal. sorry about the paste
[19:46] <nokio> petrvs i will look into that thanks
[19:46] <ioria> tehcereal, you can't login ?
[19:47] <tehcereal> yes i tried multiple times with different tools to make a bootable usb and the md5sum matches
[19:47] <ioria> tehcereal, can you pass to a terminal alt+ctrl+f2 ?
[19:48] <tehcereal> ioria, on 14.04 lts yesterday i got an error after the first reboot it was a compiz related error
[19:48] <tehcereal> today i tried with 15.04 and the same thing happens
[19:48] <ioria> tehcereal, can you pass to a terminal alt+ctrl+f2 ?
[19:48] <tehcereal> i didnt try
[19:49] <tehcereal> what would you suggest?
[19:49] <ioria> tehcereal, if you don't have a shell  we can't check anything...
[19:50] <ioria> tehcereal, pass to terminal
[19:51] <tehcereal> ioria, im in booted in windows right now
[19:51] <tehcereal> tell me what should i check for :D and ill restart and then report back
[19:51] <ioria> tehcereal, i think it's not the right place ... :)
[19:52] <ioria> tehcereal, boot in linux, i'd say
[19:53] <tehcereal> let me install an irc client on my other machine first :D
[19:54] <tehcereal> then we will be good to go btw thx for the help ioria
[19:54] <ioria> tehcereal, but now i'm going away... check your .Xauthority file in home, should be owned by user, then restart lightdm or gdm with sudo service restart... and then lspci -v and check your video card
[19:56] <ioria> tehcereal, compiz is tied to video card
[19:56] <tehcereal> ioria, thx will check
[19:56] <ioria> tehcereal, good luck mate
[20:02] <splitwire> bye
[20:03] <MENOTU> testing123
[20:03] <MENOTU> anyone awake?
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> MENOTU  works, we see you
[20:03] <MENOTU> yay!
[20:05] <xavi_> Buenas, estoy intentando recuperar el Grub
[20:05] <sjmikem> so how long do you guys normally wait before updating your everyday machine to a new release
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> !es
[20:05] <xavi_> thx
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> sjmikem  i wait two years (lrs only)
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> lts*
[20:06] <Inoki> Congratulations to the Ubuntu team on the new release. :)
[20:06] <sjmikem> MonkeyDust: that's a long time :-)
[20:07] <MENOTU> I'm happy with ubuntu. working on going windowless. :)
[20:07] <SchrodingersScat> sjmikem: month or two
[20:08] <Edir127> Hi
[20:09] <brunch875> I like how the webapps thingy with firefox works again
[20:09] <Edir127> I have a problem with 15.04
[20:09] <brunch875> and how lenses like grooveshark appear again
[20:09] <Edir127> It won't install on my laptop (but will on mY desktop)
[20:10] <Edir127> It freezes right before the OS detection.
[20:10] <Edir127> Totally frozen, can't even move mouse
[20:10] <Edir127> There's no partitions on the HDD
[20:10] <Edir127> Only grub
[20:11] <Edir127> Is there a help channel for Ubuntu?
[20:11] <xavi_> Hi all, i want to repair mi grub
[20:12] <Edir127> Hi
[20:13] <xavi_> i have an SSD with W10, W7 and ubuntu and the W system erase mi grub, can i repair o i have to intall the ubuntu another time? also i have an mbr hd, th eSSD is an GPT, are compatibles?
[20:14] <daftykins> !grub | xavi_
[20:14] <compyuser> hello, please help no soun in ubuntu with via 1724 chip
[20:14] <Edir127> Is there anyone listening willing to help me?
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> !patience | Edir127
[20:14] <Edir127> OK.
[20:15] <compyuser> hello, please help no sound in ubuntu with via 1724 chip
[20:15] <xavi_> thx ubottu
[20:15] <Edir127> I *think* that's a bot
[20:15] <Bashing-om> Edir127: The laptop is it UEFI and is secure/fast boot disabled ?
[20:15] <Edir127> It is not UEFI
[20:15] <xavi_> thx daftykins
[20:15] <chrisss123456> hey guys, super simple question: i want to update to 15.04 (woo!) but the update manager says there's nothing new, and so i'm stuck on 14.04. anyone know how to deal with that?
[20:16] <Edir127> I used to have 14.04 installed perfect
[20:16] <Edir127> Chriss
[20:16] <Edir127> Go into system settings
[20:16] <Edir127> Then software and updates
[20:16] <Edir127> Go to updates tab
[20:16] <Bashing-om> Edir127: $ primary partitions maxed out ? as in dual booting Windows, and Windows using all the partitions ?
[20:16] <chrisss123456> Edir127: ok done, and then?
[20:17] <Edir127> I am not attempting a dual boot, and there are currently no partitions on the drive
[20:17] <Edir127> Then
[20:17] <Edir127> You
[20:17] <Edir127> Change the bottom box to
[20:17] <daftykins> chrisss123456: you can't go 14.04 -> 15.04
[20:17] <Edir127> 'Any release'
[20:17] <daftykins> chrisss123456: you must go to 14.10 first
[20:17] <bazhang> Edir127, dont use enter as punctuation
[20:17] <Edir127> Sorry
[20:18] <chrisss123456> daftykins: ok, i guess it'll do them in order? or do i have to do it manually?
[20:18] <Edir127> In order, chriss123456
[20:21] <Edir127> I tried upgrading from 14.04 to 14.10 (so I could go to 15.04) but it failed because power was lost during the process. I tried doing a clean install of 15.04, but it always crashes immediately before the prompt to overwrite existing OSs. The exact same media works on another PC. Deleting all partitions from the drive made no difference, but an old 12.04 disc I have does not crash at that point.
[20:22] <chrisss123456> ok great! thanks so much!
[20:22] <Edir127> No problem
[20:23] <daftykins> Edir127: dd zero the first 100MB of the drive then try again perhaps
[20:23] <chrisss123456> also, another question: i have a porsche hard drive, and i can't write on it for some reason. i tried finding stuff online but maybe im just not understanding how to fix it. does anyone know how to make it writeable?
[20:23] <Edir127> How can I do that?
[20:23] <k1l_> chrisss123456: porsche harddrive?
[20:24] <chrisss123456> k1l_: sounds posher than it is: https://www.lacie.com/uk/products/product.htm?id=10559
[20:24] <Edir127> daftykins: How can I do so?
[20:24] <daftykins> Edir127: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=2M count=50
[20:24] <k1l_> chrisss123456: ah, that is just a "designed" external hard drive. well, put it into usb port and see what dmesg tells you about it
[20:24] <daftykins> where sdX is the disk in question
[20:24] <Edir127> daftykins: Thankyou
[20:27] <compyuser> please help no soun in ubuntu
[20:28] <chrisss123456> k1l_: dmesg gives out a lot.. what would i look for in particular
[20:28] <k1l_> !paste | chrisss123456
[20:28] <daftykins> the bit at the end when you plug in the drive, chrisss123456
[20:29] <Edir127> daftykins: Your solution to my problem did not help (unless I need to reboot)
[20:29] <_guest_> hello folks, is unity 2D/unity fallback still in the repos?
[20:29] <chrisss123456> daftykins: k1l_: when running dmesg, i get more text than the terminal can show... am i doing something wrong?
[20:29] <k1l_> _guest_: no
[20:29] <Edir127> _guest_: No,
[20:29] <_guest_> darn
[20:29] <bazhang> !notunity
[20:29] <daftykins> Edir127: well what are you trying, installing 15.04 again?
[20:30] <bazhang> !info gnome-panel
[20:30] <Edir127> daftykins: yes
[20:30] <k1l_> chrisss123456: no. dmesg lists all messages from the system beginning from boot time. just schow us tha last 20 lines
[20:30] <kjdro> hello, can anyone help me with VSFTPD SFTP SSL configuration ???
[20:30] <Edir127> daftykins: what I find odd is that 12.04 works
[20:31] <daftykins> Edir127: you'd have to at least restart the installer
[20:31] <k1l_> _guest_: gnome (which is the base under unity7) uses llvmpipe for 2d rendering with cpu since some time. that is what gnome and unity uses
[20:31] <Edir127> daftykins: good point xD
[20:31] <chrisss123456> k1l_: ah i understand. here they are :http://pastebin.com/zZnzW784
[20:31] <aaanderse> hi i can't seem to find a link to the alternate installer for the new ubuntu version... any help?
[20:31] <kjdro> i have been trying to configure svftpd on Unbuntu 14.04 LTS server  since weeks and i can't seem to find a fix anywhere
[20:32] <kjdro> sroyy it's vsftpd
[20:32] <DJones> aaanderse: There hasn't been an alternate installer for quite a few releases, if you want a text based installer to can use the minimal installer
[20:32] <k1l_> chrisss123456: so its hfsplus on that external drive? the mac files system?
[20:32] <bazhang> aaanderse, there is mini only, no alternate
[20:32] <DJones> !minimal | aaanderse
[20:32] <chrisss123456> k1l_: that may be the case. i did use this for a mac computer before switching
[20:33] <aaanderse> DJones: if in documentation if i want to install raid i need alternate installer... that means mini now?
[20:33] <chrisss123456> k1l_: do you suggest formatting the drive then?>
[20:33] <k1l_> chrisss123456: well, hfsplus is a pain. i am not familiar with making that work.
[20:33] <DJones> aaanderse: I don't know, I've not installed in a raid format
[20:33] <aaanderse> DJones: ok, thank you
[20:34] <daftykins> aaanderse: yes it does, or server afaiui
[20:34] <k1l_> chrisss123456: yes.
[20:34] <chrisss123456> k1l_: bugger. alright, thanks so much for the help! :)
[20:34] <k1l_> chrisss123456: i would use ntfs on external drives anyway so you can use that drive on windows machines when needed.
[20:35] <Edir127> daftykins: I rebooted and the problem persists.
[20:35] <chrisss123456> k1l_: so between fat32 and ntfs you would suggest ntfs? howcome?
[20:36] <k1l_> chrisss123456: no 4gb limit :)
[20:36] <Edir127> Fat33 generally has better compatability with obscure devices but NTFS fragments less
[20:36] <Edir127> 32*
[20:36] <chrisss123456> k1l_: very true. Edir127, fair. thanks :)
[20:36] <petrvs> ntfs supports larger files
[20:36] <timfox123> Hello.  I am having a real problem installing the VMWare tools for the current Ubuntu LTS.  How do I get the Iso and mount it in a VMWare Esx environment ?
[20:36] <k1l_> and on usb2 the slower speed from ntfs doesnt matter anyway :)
[20:36] <petrvs> but it's a lot worse in some ways, heh
[20:37] <daftykins> Edir127: hrmm that's me out of ideas then. don't suppose you've got another disk to try in it? :)
[20:37] <petrvs> there's also no proper fsck for ntfs in Unix land
[20:37] <Edir127> Well, the 12.04 disk works. The 15.04 USB drive I am using works flawlessly on my desktop.
[20:37] <compyuser> please help no sound in ubuntu
[20:38] <daftykins> Edir127: i refer to HDD/SSD.
[20:38] <aaanderse> daftykins: great! just grabbed it and looking good so far...
[20:39] <Edir127> daftykins: No, I do not. Perhaps I could remove the HDD and put another USB drive in, would it detect that instead (if it works I know the HDD is at fault)
[20:40] <daftykins> Edir127: yep, or run driveless
[20:40] <Edir127> Ok
[20:42] <reborn> anyone can tell me about this ? http://i.imgur.com/snmcnnq.png
[20:43] <k1l_> reborn: its a optimizing thingy for the cpu microcode. you need to enable it manually since its a prop. code.
[20:44] <kjdro> Pls HELP i have been trying to configure svftpd on Unbuntu 14.04 LTS server  since weeks and i can't seem to find a fix anywhere
[20:45] <kjdro> Pls HELP i have been trying to configure vsftpd on Unbuntu 14.04 LTS server  since weeks and i can't seem to find a fix anywhere, the connection says login OK but i can't actually log in to the sftp
[20:45] <Edir127> daftykins: With the HDD removed, the problem persists
[20:45] <ikonia> kjdro: whats the actual problem ?
[20:45] <daftykins> Edir127: weird!
[20:46] <bekks> kjdro: sftp isnt configured by vsftpd, but by openssh.
[20:48] <kostkon> reborn, it's a good thing, install it
[20:48] <reborn> what's is exactly this?
[20:48] <kjdro> ikonia: Trying to configure SFTP access to chrooter users, i'm trying to connect using wnscp and also total commander sftp connection. So far, the log in ubuntu shows that login OK for my IP, but on the other side, the connection is refused
[20:49] <daftykins> reborn: a support chat channel
[20:50] <kjdro> bekks: i know, i think there might be a problem with pam ..... but i couldn't fix this... or find any hint to what's actually wrong
[20:50] <ikonia> kjdro: "on the other side" ?
[20:50] <ikonia> it either logs in - or it doesn't
[20:50] <kjdro> bekks: in total commander i get something like this: SSL_read returned -1, SSL_get_error=1 OFFLINE2, error=0 SSL_read returned 0, SSL_get_error=5, ERR_get_error=0
[20:50] <kostkon> reborn, patches parts of you cpu on-the-fly at boot time with bug fixes, better performance etc
[20:51] <bekks> kjdro: Which port are you trying to connect to?
[20:51] <kjdro> ikonia: windows, from where i try to connect to the sftp
[20:51] <ikonia> kjdro: so a.) ssh will act as an sftp server b.) are you sure you've configured vsftpd to listen on the right ports
[20:52] <okrusty> hey, i just updated to 15.04 and am seeing an undefined symbol error when starting pulseaudio... anyone have a solution to this?  pulseaudio: symbol lookup error: pulseaudio: undefined symbol: pa_inotify_start
[20:52] <kjdro> ikonia: i followed all the guids, pl;us i had a configuration that was working on the previous ubuntu LTS, and it's not working on 14.04
[20:52] <bekks> kjdro: Which port are you trying to connect to?
[20:52] <kjdro> *guide's
[20:52] <YvesLevier> Wouldnt be out of topic : My heart is yelling this : I hate windows
[20:52] <Edir127> daftykins: When I was updating to 14.10 and the power was lost, I rebooted and allowed dpkg to carry on where it left off; the only part of the upgrade that remained undone was 'cleaning up'. Upon a further reboot, grub went into grub rescue. I can't remember the error message. The even weirder thing is that the drives can be r/w'd to absolutely fine in 15.04's 'Try Ubuntu'
[20:52] <kjdro> bekks: port 20, and passive sftp connection
[20:52] <daftykins> YvesLevier: yes it's childish and doesn't belong here.
[20:53] <bekks> kjdro: sftp uses port 22.
[20:53] <kostkon> okrusty, apt-get clean then  apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade
[20:53] <reborn> do i have to reboot after install that?
[20:53] <YvesLevier> daftykins: in other words : Thx to hold our Ubuntu community :)  (sorry for the "hate")  will pay attention.
[20:54] <kostkon> okrusty, then if nou believe it is needed apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:54] <kostkon> reborn, reboot and it your cpu will get patched, and every time you reboot
[20:55] <kostkon> minus it8
[20:55] <kostkon> it*
[20:55] <Edir127> daftykins: I just remembered that I had a password set in grub, and when grub updated, some settings were lost and I was unable to log into it. Then, trying to install 15.04 and failing, then a reboot, that is when I got to grub rescue
[20:56] <kjdro> bekks: i know, it's not port problem, on ubuntu /var/log/vsftpd.log i have confirmation of LOGIN OK
[20:56] <bekks> kjdro: You are constantly mixing things up. Either you are using SFTP (which uses ssh which uses port 22), or you are using ftp(s) which can be done by vsftpd, which uses port 20 and 21.
[20:57] <bekks> kjdro: sftp is not done by vsftpd.
[20:57] <ikonia> vsftpd can do it
[20:57] <bekks> ikonia: Really?
[20:57] <ikonia> yeah
[20:57] <bekks> ikonia: TIL. :)
[20:57] <ikonia> but why would you....
[20:57] <bekks> ikonia: :D
[20:57] <MonkeyDust> what's "til" mean?
[20:58] <bekks> MonkeyDust: Things I Learned.
[20:58] <k1l_> *today
[20:58] <bekks> :D
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> onigi (oh, now i get it) ;)
[21:00] <maku_> Where can I obtain the public signing key of Canonical used to sign hashes?
[21:00] <araaragot> Greetings.
[21:00] <kjdro> bekks: apparently ssh broke, now it de-connects me even from remote ssh  so i gues... will continue some other time... DAMN....
[21:00] <kjdro> so good night... and thx !
[21:01] <kostkon> okrusty, if you've upgraded, definitely do a dist-upgrade
[21:01] <araaragot> When I try to make a new bootable usb with startup disk creator is says Failed to install boatloader. What do I do?
[21:02] <Edir127> daftykins: I'm going to call it a night, I'm too tired to pursue this further today.
[21:02] <okrusty> kostkon, thanks - i'll give that a try
[21:03] <maku_> araaragot: I get that if I don't type admin password soon enough after the creator prompts it
[21:03] <araaragot> Not really, I type the password and it still fails to install the bootloader.
[21:04] <araaragot> I tried doing it from root, but same deal.
[21:06] <GR4> hui
[21:07] <escargotdu25> hi ! are ioria and kll connected ?
[21:07] <CASADO45> SEX
[21:07] <petrvs> escargotdu25: /wii k1l_
[21:07] <okrusty> kostkon, that fixed it.  thanks
[21:08] <escargotdu25> hi petrvs
[21:08] <petrvs> hi
[21:08] <GR4> its quite interesting, i didnt know, how big is this channel yet :D nice surprise
[21:09] <escargotdu25> i have now downloaded a new version of ubuntu (14.04) and can use libreoffice and vlc to read audio cds
[21:10] <k1l_> escargotdu25: alright then :)
[21:10] <escargotdu25> petrvs and kll thanks a lot for your help
[21:10] <petrvs> gj
[21:11] <kostkon> okrusty, np
[21:12] <escargotdu25> kll i am still a novice but i hope to learn more about ubuntu and how to use it
[21:13] <k1l_> escargotdu25: wich 14.04 you got 5 years support now. so you dont run in the problems like you did with 12.10. that is a good start now
[21:15] <zerowaitstate> df -h
[21:15] <zerowaitstate> oops
[21:15] <Juje> Can someone help me with a error regarding udev?
[21:15] <escargotdu25> kll thanks just a question : i can't use instant messageries yet like pingin or amsn or emesen i can't configure these apps
[21:16] <myslite> test
[21:16] <myslite> quelqu'un voit ce que j'écris?
[21:16] <escargotdu25> myslite oui
[21:16] <bazhang> !fr | myslite
[21:17] <myslite> Okay thanks, I'm new and I wonder how can I join an other server/chat, somebody can help me?
[21:17] <k1l_> myslite: "/join #channelname"
[21:18] <myslite> Thanks
[21:19] <escargotdu25> kll i'm in the same situation as mslite
[21:25] <EvilCreep> Ugh been at it for over an hour.. Google isn't helping... Can someone explain how the group permission systems works. How do I give user "www-data" read/write permission to folder /home/Minecraft/Minecraft/server/playerdata (and all files and future files) which is owned by user "Minecraft"?
[21:26] <sigpipe> is there a way to file bugs on apport without apport installed?  i was trying to file another bug on a headless server and it seems apport-cli is the recommended program, but it 'apt-get install apport' fails
[21:26] <EvilCreep> I get chmod... change the permission of a file for the current user but don't have a clue how to give access not ownership to a folder or file to another user.
[21:26] <Kottizen> Hi everyone! I'm trying to install Kubuntu 15.04 to my SSD disk, but the installation gets stuck at "Creating ext4 file system for / [...]". What should I do?
[21:27] <AndrewMC> EvilCreep: Check out chown... that'll let you change ownership and groups to a file/folder
[21:27] <daftykins> Kottizen: try partitioning manually first.
[21:27] <Kottizen> daftykins: I've tried both manual and guided partitioning in the installation guide. Should I try something else?
[21:27] <EvilCreep> I don't want to change ownership I need that folder and it's files to remain owned by "Minecraft" but I would like to access those files via apache/php.
[21:28] <Kottizen> daftykins: It might be worth noting that I am devoting my entire SSD to Kubuntu, so the setup isn't difficult.
[21:28] <daftykins> Kottizen: i'm getting at using gparted to make them, then simply use them
[21:28] <EvilCreep> Maybe the SSD is in RAID mode in the BIOS.
[21:28] <Kottizen> daftykins: I'll give it a try, thanks.
[21:28] <Kottizen> EvilCreep: Thanks for the suggestion, but it isn't.
[21:28] <AndrewMC> EvilCreep: ... can you change the group safely? As in, get the users that need access into a group then give that group, group ownership
[21:29] <Ben64> EvilCreep: ACLs
[21:29] <daftykins> EvilCreep: seriously you're still on this? give a pastebin of "ls -al /path/that/is/relevant/"
[21:30] <michael__> test
[21:31] <Guest26881> when i install ubuntu 15.04 i have a problem i cant restart and shotdown my laptop
[21:31] <Guest62075> Wow! Hello everybody
[21:31] <Guest26881> pleas help me!
[21:32] <Guest26881> when i install ubuntu 15.04 i have a problem i cant restart and shotdown my laptop!!! yy???
[21:32] <_Trullo> then always keep it on!
[21:33] <h00k> Guest26881: you can't restart it, why? Are you getting any particular error?
[21:33] <Kottizen> daftykins: Looks like it's working! At least it is copying.
[21:33] <daftykins> huzzah!
[21:34] <Guest26881> no no i just cant reastart when i want to restart my laptop hang
[21:34] <gabe_> hello
[21:34] <gabe_> does anyone here play minecraft
[21:35] <petrvs> probably someone
[21:35] <EvilCreep> I do..
[21:35] <machdohvah> test
[21:35] <Ben64> machdohvah: please test things elsewhere
[21:36] <bazhang> !test
[21:36] <Guest26881> I've just installed ubuntu 15.04 on my laptop (Asus N56JR).
[21:36] <Guest26881> I noticed that when i click on reset/shutdown my computer freezes and it wont turn off. I waited for too long, But nothing happened. I also install nvidia-340 [propreitary] driver on my system alongside nvidia-settings-server for switching between Nvidia and Intel, but after rebooting, It went to low graphics mode and after loging into my account it went to black screen and everything freezed. I even couldn't go to tty mode.
[21:36] <Guest26881> My laptop has no such problems with kernel 3.13, but in 3.19, it seems like it can not use my laptop's nvidia graphics card and just works on Nouveau display driver.
[21:36] <Guest26881> I really need a fix for this issue, cause my laptop is much faster and smoother on kernel 3.19.x but it lags on 3.13 .
[21:37] <cheus> Hi. I upgraded to 15.04 today and now cannot join wireless networks. This looks like some kind of permissions issue with network manager since the frontend is available but I'm not allowed to save changes to it or input a network password.
[21:37] <maku_> Ok, I ran a /dev/zero on a USB device, succesfully created a startup disk, yet I get this error during boot:
[21:37] <maku_> "gfxboot.c32: not a COM32R image"
[21:37] <EvilCreep> daftykins: So you want a pastbin of the output of ls on the desired directory?
[21:37] <TiK> Guest26881: so use the old kernel
[21:37] <maku_> oh, the USB drive was FAT32 formatted
[21:37] <machdohvah> So, am I to understand that 15.04 is available and the users who install it already having problems with it?
[21:38] <Guest26881> I've just installed ubuntu 15.04 on my laptop (Asus N56JR).
[21:38] <Guest26881> I noticed that when i click on reset/shutdown my computer freezes and it wont turn off. I waited for too long, But nothing happened. I also install nvidia-340 [propreitary] driver on my system alongside nvidia-settings-server for switching between Nvidia and Intel, but after rebooting, It went to low graphics mode and after loging into my account it went to black screen and everything freezed. I even couldn't go to tty mode.
[21:38] <Guest26881> My laptop has no such problems with kernel 3.13, but in 3.19, it seems like it can not use my laptop's nvidia graphics card and just works on Nouveau display driver.
[21:38] <Guest26881> I really need a fix for this issue, cause my laptop is much faster and smoother on kernel 3.19.x but it lags on 3.13 .
[21:38] <daftykins> EvilCreep: yep, though if we continue at this rate i will likely be asleep before we can find a solution.
[21:38] <Ben64> Guest26881: don't paste so many lines at once, and wait like 15+ minutes before repeating
[21:39] <daftykins> Guest26881: did you include nvidia-prime ?
[21:39] <daftykins> Guest26881: also what model nvidia graphics...
[21:39] <Guest26881> yess
[21:39] <Guest26881>  I also install nvidia-340 [propreitary] driver
[21:39] <daftykins> Guest26881: i didn't ask for that part because i read it the first time.
[21:40] <maku_> ok, looks like I solved the COM32R image error, (hit tab + enter 'live' and press enter)
[21:40] <Guest26881> y i cant restart my system on ubuntu 15.04?
[21:41] <daftykins> Guest26881: fair enough if you can't answer my questions i can't help :)
[21:41] <machdohvah> Is Guest26881 a bot?
[21:42] <Guest26881> im not bot
[21:42] <machdohvah> ok
[21:42] <EvilCreep> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10874401/
[21:42] <Guest26881> i use intel grafic driver :(
[21:42] <machdohvah> I just installed 14.04 and I have no problems. I have a baby tower
[21:43] <Guest26881> can u help me pleas i use intel default grafic driver on ubuntu 15.04 and i cant reastart and power off my system :(
[21:44] <machdohvah> 14.10 was giving me a hassle
[21:44] <Ben64> machdohvah: if you just want to chat and stuff, you should do that in #ubuntu-offtopic ... this channel is for support only
[21:45] <machdohvah> OK
[21:45] <machdohvah> bye
[21:45] <daftykins> EvilCreep: right so create a group, add www-data and Minecraft to it, then change that folders ownership with "sudo chown  Minecraft:groupname /path/* "
[21:45] <galigan> I just have an issue with my usb3 ports and an usb3 hdd... can someone help me?
[21:46] <daftykins> EvilCreep: sudo addgroup groupname ; sudo adduser www-data groupname ; sudo adduser Minecraft groupname
[21:46] <Guest26881> daftykins can u help me? i asked ur quastion
[21:46] <Guest26881> i answerd*
[21:46] <daftykins> Guest26881: no because you have two separate questions and still haven't provided the information i asked for.
[21:47] <Guest26881> daftykins but my quastion is only about restart problem on ubuntu 15.04
[21:47] <daftykins> Guest26881: trying to nag me for assistance is a great way to get ignored.
[21:48] <Guest26881> daftykins madaret jendast?
[21:49] <daftykins> Guest26881: attempting to insult someone in another language is not a clever move. goodbye!
[21:53] <galigan> I just have an issue with my usb3 ports and an usb3 hdd... can someone help me?
[21:53] <bekks> galigan: That depends on the issue...
[21:53] <galigan> it doesn't work
[21:54] <galigan> if i plug an usb2 hdd it works... but not for usb3
[21:54] <bekks> galigan: Are you using a USB3 cable, too?
[21:54] <galigan> yes
[21:56] <pr0tlogic> I am trying to install ubuntu and I have raid 10 setup, but the installer does not recognize the logical drive, I am using the alternative installer.
[21:57] <bekks> pr0tlogic: Which RAID controller do you have?
[21:58] <pr0tlogic> Not raid controller, it's on the motherboard, I am trying to look up the board now.
[21:59] <cellis> hello
[22:01] <daftykins> pr0tlogic: are you talking about mini.iso when you say 'alternate installer' ?
[22:02] <petrvs> cellis: hi
[22:05] <maku_> damn, the FDE password prompt of 15.04 is still black occasionally after boot
[22:06] <bekks> maku_: Whats the "FDE password prompt"?
[22:06] <daftykins> full disk encryption
[22:06] <sigpipe> maku_:  i had the same problem.  on my system if i remove "splash" from the kernel command line i can see the prompt
[22:07] <EvilCreep> daftykins: Ran the commands and it looks like it works but I can't get a peep out of php when trying to access files in that directory.. no errors or output..
[22:07] <daftykins> rest might be down to learning PHP / web server admin
[22:07] <daftykins> i gotta go, nn
[22:07] <EvilCreep> thanks for the help
[22:08] <daftykins> np
[22:08] <amgadhs> hello