[01:03] <israel> hi, I am looking into building a custom JWM based distro and wanted to know what needs to be installed, and configured to use oem-config properly.  jwm does not use openbox or metacity, etc... (the oem-config recommends includes these in OR statements).  Is there something for my xsession (or other) that I need to check, or disable?  I can post a link to my xsession code located on launchpad
[01:18] <sarnold> israel: just bsaed on the package names, it looks like you could pick a gtk based or a qt based frontend, whichever one would feel most appropriate..
[01:18] <sarnold> israel: I've never run it before but I suspect if it depended upon a specific window manager, the deps would indicate that, so probably whatever window manager you use should work
[01:19] <israel> sarnold thanks, but it does not run correctly.  on reboot (after preparing) it boots to a black screen.  The gtk theme is also messed up if I run it from a working session
[01:20] <sarnold> israel: aha; anything in the logs or xsession-errors?
[01:20] <sarnold> israel: can you ssh -X -Y in to the host and run it that way? maybe it'll report errors differently in that case
[01:22] <israel> I have my own custom xsession, so is there something I need to be loading (or give permissions to) in order for things to run correctly?
[01:42] <israel> sarnold I have my own custom xsession, so is there something I need to be loading (or give permissions to) in order for things to run correctly?
[01:43] <sarnold> israel: sorry, I don't know. Does oem-config need to run as root?
[01:45] <israel> sarnold thanks for helping... the oem-config starts up at reboot automatically... and I do not think you need to run it as root, but it may need some permissions provided by a display manager like lightDM that I do not have using something else.
[01:47] <sarnold> israel: oh, interesting. hrmm. Sorry, I wish I could offer something better :)
[01:48] <israel> sarnold, yeah no problem... I am not sure who to ask, or where to start looking... as Ubuntu is so well integrated, I am not sure what I am supposed to look for :)


[09:20] <graingert[m]> hello
[09:24] <graingert> graingert[m]: ping
[09:24] <graingert[m]> graingert: pong
[09:25] <graingert[m]> I'm having some difficulty reporting a bug with apport and I think it's due to a faulty fix in hirsuite
[09:27] <graingert[m]> how do I clone the apport source code, edit it and submit a patch
[10:02] <graingert[m]> looks like it got fixed here
[10:02]  * graingert[m] sent a code block: https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/f9d34b8249f12b1168d920f31402d9cb7e219e49
[10:02] <graingert[m]> but the changelog just says   * Fix KeyError: 'CasperMD5json' with no LP:
[10:06] <graingert[m]> bdrung: do you have a ticket for * Fix KeyError: 'CasperMD5json' ? it seems to be broken on jammy with no backport
[10:31] <graingert[m]> git blame tracks it down to this https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/commit/?id=38c71042767cc19883a61296590256eeb823d735 but it's a huge code reformat commit with code fixes applied at the same time
[10:31] <graingert[m]> how do I find out which commit just introduced the Fix KeyError: 'CasperMD5json' change?
[10:33] <graingert[m]> this line here https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/tree/debian/patches/Add-general-hooks.patch?id=38c71042767cc19883a61296590256eeb823d735#n43


[00:53] <studio-user008> hello i am really disturbed because it just don`t give any sound from my computer since I installed ubuntu. Please help...
[01:44] <exxxit> hello everyone I have a ubuntustudio machine but I cant get sound from the speakers nor headphones can I get any info here on where to look for help solving this issue? thanks
[02:12] <elky> exxxit: there's not many people here and i'm not using ubuntustudio so i can't help, but you could ask on askubuntu.com maybe
[02:13] <exxxit> thanks elky
[15:02] <tedthetrumpet> quick question: how do I prevent windows from maximizing when near the top edge? this is on 17.04. tia
[15:05] <tedthetrumpet> ok, there's no-one here I guess. I'll try somewhere else, tx
[21:58] <studio-user732> hello, i was wondering if anyone knew how to get hbogo to work
[23:45] <YoJimmy> Opinions desired: What's the best FOSS midi piano for Linux one can get? Is there a stageworthy soundfont for FluidSynth out there?


[00:03] <nUboon2age3> Over at the Ubuntu Hour: San Jose that James McClain is running today. Panera Bread at Coleman and Taylor (started at 2pm) till 6pm. A couple of folks just first getting exposed to Ubuntu came by earlier and talked to James. James helped one fellow fix his GRUB2 setup. :-)
[00:04] <nUboon2age3> James is now working on a Google presentation on steps to fix wifi.  He helped me and another new fellow, Bill the other day at the Ubuntu Hour: De Anza .  James has got some skillz going(!)
[00:06] <nUboon2age3> :-)
[18:53] <Chocks> greetings
[19:58] <grantbow> Chocks: greetings
[19:58] <Chocks> hello from Oakland/Lafayette
[19:59] <grantbow> I was in Lamorinda for 30 years :-)
[19:59] <grantbow> hello
[19:59] <Chocks> it's full of "well preserved" women
[20:00] <grantbow> lol
[20:06] <Chocks> where are you now?
[20:11]  * MarkDude went to school in Lafayette
[20:12] <Chocks> I merely work here. It's not somewhere I'd care to live
[20:26] <MarkDude> Understood
[20:27] <MarkDude> We called it Lala land
[20:27] <Chocks> I bet
[20:27]  * MarkDude spent much of his other growing up time - in Santa Cruz. Helped keep me from being too much of a golf course D Bag
[20:27] <MarkDude> It was nice- dont get me wrong
[20:27] <Chocks> sure
[20:27] <MarkDude> Just hella sheltered
[20:28] <Chocks> yeah, you need to live in hardcore Oakland
[20:28] <MarkDude> So I went to SC for danger excitement , and basic rules breaking
[20:28]  * MarkDude worked in East Oakland as  mechanic for a while
[20:28] <Chocks> right
[20:28] <MarkDude> It was eye-opening at the time
[20:28] <MarkDude> Makes on less naive
[20:29]  * grantbow nods
[20:29] <Chocks> I live in JLS
[20:32] <MarkDude> JLS?
[20:32] <Chocks> Jack London Square
[20:32] <Chocks> I have a fancy view of the train station
[20:32] <MarkDude> Oh, nice area
[20:32] <Chocks> some of it :o
[20:33] <MarkDude> good music, food and scene
[20:33] <Chocks> lots of empty warehouses too
[20:33] <MarkDude> Well - yes, the other part is what I just call *excitement*
[20:33] <Chocks> I lived on 17th St during Occupy
[20:34] <Chocks> media copters would sit over my appt.
[20:58] <MarkDude> Are you new to the group?
[20:58]  * MarkDude is off and on- so not too up to date
[20:59] <Chocks> I joined the UbuntuSV group on meetup recently, but it's a bit too far for me to go, and I belong to too many meetups now
[20:59]  * MarkDude is Ubuntu FOSS supporter- as well as being known as the Fedora guy (dont judge me for being evill )
[20:59] <Chocks> I've been using Debian for ~15 years (I think)
[20:59] <MarkDude> Easy to do with meetups
[20:59] <MarkDude> so many choices here
[20:59] <Chocks> Ubuntu 7 I guess
[20:59] <Chocks> I went to the Ubuntu conf 2 years ago in Orlando
[21:00] <MarkDude> grantbow, we need to meet up to do some OLPC stuff
[21:00] <MarkDude> I gots a braintrust lined up
[21:00]  * MarkDude went to UDS when it was in Oaksterdam
[21:00] <Chocks> I saw a story today about OLPC/Ethoipian kids hacking android
[21:00] <MarkDude> Good times
[21:01]  * MarkDude wants to get some FOSS folsk to help a bit more with OLPC
[21:01] <MarkDude> grantbow, has been doing it for a while
[21:01] <Chocks> TBH, I burnt myself out on FOSS.  These days, it's enough to keep up with what I need for work.  OpenWrt, mainly.
[21:05] <MarkDude> Foss can do that
[21:05] <Chocks> Firefox source is a big steaming pile
[21:05]  * MarkDude had to scale back the amount of projects I am involved with
[21:06] <MarkDude> All browsers sorta suck
[21:06] <MarkDude> has to do with flash
[21:06] <MarkDude> Shittiness across platforms....
[21:06] <MarkDude> Sry crapiness
[21:06] <Chocks> yes, however Mozilla source is templates top to bottom
[21:06] <Chocks> layers and layers of code


[23:40] <ZykoticK9> Omen_20, easiest way to think about nice/renice would be "lowering process priority"
[23:41] <Hilikus> whats the difference between nvidia-glx-96 nvidia-glx-173 ?
[23:41] <Omen_20> ZykoticK9, ok so on my system monitor, Nice would be low priority stuff?
[23:42] <ZykoticK9> Omen_20, you can use nice/renice to lower/raise process priority???
[23:42] <xzachtmx> is it possible to put videos on your ipod touch with ubuntu, because when i plug it in it always loads up a gphoto2 thing and only lets me view my saved photos and nothing else, i removed gphoto but it still does it
[23:42] <WinfredNg> mgolisch,Thanks, It work.
[23:42] <IceGuest_75> :]
[23:43] <mgolisch> WinfredNg: i believe there is some config file on wich you can add modules to be relaoded on resume
[23:43] <IceGuest_75> :)
[23:43] <WinfredNg> mgolisch, How?, I am a new one
[23:43] <mgolisch> xzachtmx: videos? for storage? or to actualy look at them?
[23:43] <xzachtmx> like i want to put videos on to it.
[23:43] <Omen_20> ZykoticK9, ok ur explaining it more as a tool. There is a color indicator on the graph that is labeled Nice.
[23:44] <xzachtmx> all the guides on the internet dont change anything, it still loads up like it is a digital camera
[23:45] <mgolisch> xzachtmx: itunes sync doenst work on iphone os 2.x i think there is expiremntal support for 3.x
[23:45] <mike3> has the latest dist-upgrade addressed a lot of the bugs?
[23:45] <xzachtmx> i have 3.1
[23:45] <DWG_> how has 9.10 been working for everybody. I am experiencing a number of strange behaviors that all seem display related?
[23:45] <xzachtmx> .2
[23:45] <mgolisch> i mean sync using gtkpod or somular stuff
[23:45] <mgolisch> but i think you need to install some experimental libraries and stuff
[23:45] <heoa> How can I open a ISO-file without cd-drive?
[23:46] <WinfredNg> mgolisch, Can u tell me when the computer resume, What script will load?
[23:46] <DWG_> heoa do you have a dvd drive?
[23:46] <heoa> DWG_: no, just achlinux_distro.iso-file
[23:46] <heoa> in my harddrive
[23:46] <heoa> and I need to make a virtual CD-drive or something like that
[23:47] <heoa> to read it
[23:47] <chiques> anyone here use Linux Media Center?
[23:48] <mgolisch> heoa: there is software like cdemu
[23:48] <mike3> chiques, I use MythTV
[23:48] <mike3> but I think there is a channel for that. #ubuntu-mythtv
[23:48] <ZykoticK9> Omen_20, i've been searching for an explanation of nice re:system monitor - couldn't find one...  you can have a look at "man nice" doubt it has the info you're looking for though.  good luck.
[23:51] <Omen_20> ZykoticK9, ok thanks. I know what ur talking about but that is the System Monitor that lists processes. I'm talking about the panel applet which shows graphs.
[23:51] <chiques> mike3, I want to download the latest iso for LMC but it's down. Do you know of any alternatives where I can get the latest version?
[23:52] <mike3> I haven't played with LMC. I wonder how reliable it really is.
[23:52] <mgolisch> i used it some years ago
[23:52] <mike3> I'd play around with mythtv. It's reliable once setup properly.
[23:52] <mgolisch> worked quite well
[23:52] <marcellus> While trying to upgrade to karmic gdm, compiz, etc. which led to upgrade of alsa etc. I lost my sound. It doesn't recgonize my Intel ICH10 family card anymore. Curiously enough I don't get any sound in Windows either, but I can't say for sure I had it, because I haven't really used the installation before. lspci lists the hardware, aplay -l says no soundcards.
[23:52] <ZykoticK9> Omen_20, ya I opened my own System Monitor and saw a bunch of 0s and 1s for Nice - not sure what even that refers too - good luck man.
[23:52] <mike3> Are any of you noticing slowness and what not with ubuntu
[23:53] <mike3> ?
[23:53] <ghostlines> anyone know a terminal app that displays a progress bar when copying files?
[23:53] <Izinucs> How do I get Tomboy to sync with ubuntu one using the version on Intrepid?
[23:53] <mgolisch> why should it?
[23:53] <psycho_oreos> ghostlines, think mc does
[23:53] <mgolisch> that would be the job of the program doing the file copy operation
[23:53] <Omen_20> ZykoticK9, yeah it is probably irrelevant to me since i never see that color in my graph. It was more just a spur of curiosity. But thanks for the help.
[23:53] <mgolisch> not your terminal
[23:53] <nossralsuva> ghostlines: when you use cp use the -v option, eg. cp -v source_file target_file
[23:53] <ghostlines> psycho_oreos, ok thanks I'll check itout
[23:54]  * jsoft is updating to 8.10
[23:54] <ghostlines> nossralsuva, thanks
[23:54] <nossralsuva> ghostlines: you wouldn't see a progress bar, but it shows you percentage
[23:54] <ghostlines> nossralsuva, thanks alot that's more then enough
[23:54] <ZykoticK9> marcellus, what is your output of "uname -r"?  most common problem with upgrading to karmic seems to be an issue with the kernel/grub not being updated properly (which often results in sound issues)
[23:55] <nossralsuva> ghostlines, no problem
[23:55] <mgolisch> cp -v?
[23:56] <jsoft> meow
[23:56] <mgolisch> i know gentoo had a patch for coreutils that added a -g iption for a progress bar, but ubuntu doenst have that
[23:56] <nossralsuva> mgolisch, cp -v, the v stands for verbose and if you want you could do it w/ recusive options on, so e.g. cp -rvf source_file target_file
[23:56] <holmser> I need to help my mom out with her computer. is there a way that I can remote into her win7 machine from ubuntu?
[23:56] <marcellus> ZykoticK9: I have tried different kernels. The one I used was 2.6.28-15-generic, now I am using -16-generic, but have tried -17-generic too. 31-14-generic didn't work at all.
[23:56] <dcslv> VNC
[23:56] <LetsGo67> I have been working HOURS on this stupid server.  Same darn problems!  Can't connect local or Internet!  Help please!
[23:57] <dcslv> hlmser: yuo can install a vnc server on your mom's box and rdc with that
[23:57] <nossralsuva> holmser, go to internet>Terminal Server Client, this has the rdp (remote desktop protocol used by ms, using port 3389)
[23:57] <heoa> mgolisch: why is it not in aptitude or apt-get?
[23:57] <ZykoticK9> marcellus, you have a kernel issue!  2.6.31 is Karmic!
[23:58] <micromachstick> I'm trying to find a music player software for ubuntu that will actually work with my ipod...i'm using songbird currently but it's not working properly...are there any others worth considering?
[23:58] <mgolisch> heoa: probably ubuntu doesnt have cdemu
[23:58] <Hilikus> how do i boot into safe mode? in grub2 i don't get the menu when grub loads
[23:58] <marcellus> ZykoticK9: elaborate
[23:59] <trism> heoa: you don't need cdemu to mount ordinary iso, just do sudo mount -o loop file_name.iso /mnt
[23:59] <ZykoticK9> marcellus, you're trying to use the kernel from a previous version of Ubuntu - and Karmic expects/needs 2.6.31 -- i don't know the fix (i didn't upgrade my desktop did a fresh install, and the VM that i did update worked properly)
[23:59] <LetsGo67> Please help me with my SSH server!
[23:59] <mgolisch> LetsGo67: whats the problem?


[18:04] <utlemming> smoser: I see that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1681531 was not included in the upload to cloud-init...any chance we can get that in?
[18:04] <smoser> utlemming, its not in the sur'd version. it will get into trunk and sru'd next pass.
[18:05] <smoser> oh
[18:05] <smoser> there are unit tests on this. can you cange them to explicitly show this ?
[18:06] <utlemming> sure
[18:39] <raspado> i have a few instances where epehemeral storage is available depending on instance size, they are somehow auto attached as /dev/vdb but we use /dev/vdb, is there a method to prevent cloud-init from automounting ephemeral storage?
[18:39] <raspado> we provision systems vis salt-cloud
[18:40] <raspado> vis=via
[19:35] <smoser> raspado, https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/modules.html?highlight=regex#mounts
[19:35] <smoser> and https://git.launchpad.net/cloud-init/tree/doc/examples/cloud-config.txt#n36
[19:35] <smoser> i think what you're probably after is:
[19:36] <smoser>  mounts:
[19:36] <smoser>   - [ ephemeral0, null ]
[20:05] <smoser> blackboxsw, https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/323059 is in a fairly good state now.
[20:06] <smoser> rharper, see line 364 of merge there. that is the i386 failure.
[20:06] <smoser> dash bug that is present only on i386 16.04.
[20:07] <blackboxsw> checking
[20:08] <rharper> smoser: interesting
[20:09] <rharper> gnarly
[20:09] <rharper> seems like a strange bug
[20:10] <rharper> is it arbitrary (does it do if for other chars besides [  ?
[20:10] <rharper> probably should file a bz and log it in the comments
[20:11] <smoser> not all characters
[20:11] <smoser> i can file a bug, but its not one i'm going to push on
[20:11] <smoser> i386 only is the key "i dont care"
[20:14] <smoser> rharper, oh wait. shoot. not 16.04. 14.04.
[20:15] <rharper> smoser: heh, yeah; it's easy enough to workaround, worth documenting
[20:24] <smoser> i was wrong. not i386 specific.
[20:24] <smoser> just that our i386 test system is trusty
[20:36] <smoser> rharper, bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dash/+bug/1689648
[20:37] <rharper> smoser: cool
[20:37] <smoser> (fixed bug subject)
[21:08] <blackboxsw> smoser: approved https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/323059


[12:36] <wil_syd> Whats a general purpose shutdown event ?
[12:37] <AlexExtreme> the shutdown/halt/reboot utils will emit a runlevel event
[12:37] <wil_syd> like the opposite of start on startup
[12:37] <AlexExtreme> 'runlevel 0' for shutdown and 'runlevel 6' for reboot
[12:39] <wil_syd> ok.. I've got mt-daapd starting at startup. Can you have multiple stop ats ?
[12:40] <AlexExtreme> yes
[12:40] <wil_syd> ok.. thanks
[12:42] <wil_syd> oh.. should have been mutiple stop ons :)
[12:42] <AlexExtreme> yes ;)
[10:43] <phlaegel> hi, I'm trying to get upstart to handle my mythfrontend the way I used do it in /etc/inittab (details at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Frontend_Auto_Login), and I'm not sure it's possible yet.
[10:45] <phlaegel> I've got it mostly working (it starts the frontend, and restarts it if it crashes), but on boot it starts too early (before the mythtv-backend startup).
[10:46] <phlaegel> Would adding something like 'initctl emit mythtv-started' to the mythtv-backend init script be a way to get it working?
[10:46] <phlaegel> (and then making the mythfrontend job start on that event...)
[10:46] <AlexExtreme> yes, that would work
[10:49] <phlaegel> ok, I'll give that a shot... just wanted to see if that was a good way, or if there was something better. thanks


[02:18] <Ahmuck> hi. is there a way to set language settings for programs prior to opening them
[15:09] <SunilJoshi> Hello, whenver i press Windows + D, it minimize my bottom pannel. I am on lubuntu 13.10
[15:09] <chulis> hello why I see two icons exactly equal (the same) in notification area in the panel?
[15:11] <wxl> SunilJoshi: you can change keybindings. let me find the location.
[15:12] <wxl> chulis: probably because you have two of the same programs runninga t the same time. which one is it?
[15:12] <SunilJoshi> wxl: Thanks but i donot need to change keybindings. i want to stop minimizing the panel on windows + D
[15:13] <SunilJoshi> I remmber it was working fine before..
[15:13] <wxl> SunilJoshi: what changed since?
[15:13] <SunilJoshi> wxl: i didnt changed any panel settings, this is i am sure about
[15:14] <wxl> SunilJoshi: i see in ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml W-d is bound to "ToggleShowDesktop." not sure why that has any effect on your panel.
[15:15] <chulis> the icon is wifi
[15:15] <SunilJoshi> chulis: check if you have added wifi notification twice in the panel
[15:16] <wxl> chulis: i agree with SunilJoshi. alternately, you can check to see if you have more than one instance of nm-applet running (ps aux | grep -i [n]m-applet)
[15:18] <SunilJoshi> wxl: same for me..
[15:21] <chulis> how can i check to see that?
[15:22] <SunilJoshi> right click on the panel -> got to panel setting and then to panel applets tab and check in the list.. if you have 2 wifi added
[15:22] <SunilJoshi> chulis: ^^
[15:22] <chulis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7245106/
[15:23] <chulis> all applets are differents
[15:24] <wxl> chulis: you have two running, right?
[15:24] <wxl> chulis: 1415 is one process ID and the other PID is 1426
[15:25] <chulis> ok so how can i delete one?
[15:26] <chulis> i only want to see one wifi icon
[15:26] <wxl> chulis: kill one of them
[15:26] <wxl> chulis: there are gui ways to do it but the easiest way is to just do something like [ kill 1426 ]
[15:27] <Ahmuck> hi.  i need to get spellcheck for english on a spanish system.  how
[15:28] <chulis> ok i killed now only one wifi icon
[15:28] <chulis> maybe when i restart the system it be same again?
[15:28] <wxl> chulis: in fact `pidof nm-applet` would return "1415 1426" which could be passed to kill like `kill $(pidof nm-applet)` which would be like typing `kill 1415`. that assumes you want to get rid of the first one.
[15:28] <wxl> chulis: possibly. only one way to find out.
[15:30] <SunilJoshi> wxl:  anything else i can check..
[15:30] <wxl> SunilJoshi: i can't think of a darn thing, honestly, unless you're running some other keybinding program.
[15:31] <SunilJoshi> wxl: i am sure no other keybinding program is running
[15:31] <SunilJoshi> anyways thanks!! :)
[15:31] <wxl> chulis: do you have more than one nm-applet.desktop in /xdg/autostart?
[15:31] <chulis> ok im going to restart for testing
[15:36] <SunilJoshi> wxl: ping
[15:36] <wxl> SunilJoshi: yep?
[15:37] <chulis> bad luck for me i restarted and contunue both wifi icon....
[15:37] <wxl> chulis: do you have more than one nm-applet.desktop in /xdg/autostart?
[15:37] <chulis> may yesterday i was making things
[15:37] <chulis> maybe
[15:38] <SunilJoshi> wxl: there was a miss from my side desktop was lxde, i have logged in again on lubuntu desktop and i dont see the problem
[15:38] <chulis> i add a weather channel icon
[15:38] <wxl> chulis: you probably added a wifi one by accident
[15:38] <chulis> maybe
[15:38] <wxl> SunilJoshi: curious.
[15:39] <wxl> SunilJoshi: we'll do some grepping in a second
[15:39] <SunilJoshi> wxl: i have checked both the files at the same location you shared with me previously and W-d is set to "Toggle..Desktop"
[15:42] <wxl> chulis: what's the result of `grep indicator ~/.config/lxpanel/Lubuntu/panels/panel | wc -l`?
[15:44] <chulis> i put that on terminal and nothing
[15:46] <wxl> chulis: well that's strange. you should at least get one.
[15:46] <SunilJoshi> brb..
[15:48] <wxl> SunilJoshi: `diff /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE | pastebinit` (if you don't have pastebinit, install it)
[15:49] <wxl> SunilJoshi: you might be able to run that through /exec in your irc client to output the url here to save you the copying/pasting
[15:49] <wxl> gotta run an errand brb
[15:50] <SunilJoshi> wxl: are you on weechat too :) ?
[15:50] <chulis> it says no directory exist
[15:50] <wxl> SunilJoshi: no, i use irssi, though i've been considering the change
[15:50] <wxl> chulis: no dictionary exist??
[15:51] <chulis> grep indicator ~/.config/lxpanel/Lubuntu/panels/panel | wc -l
[15:51] <chulis> with that
[15:51] <wxl> chulis: try it without the | wc -l
[15:53] <chulis> the same
[15:54] <chulis> no directory
[15:54] <wxl> i have never had a command in my life produce "no directory"
[15:55] <SunilJoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7245276/
[15:55] <wxl> navigate through that file path and see if you can figure out where it is (e.g. cd to .config, then lxpanel, etc.)
[15:55] <SunilJoshi> wxl: ^^, /exec didn't worked :(
[15:55] <chulis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7245279/
[15:56] <wxl> SunilJoshi: it seems that /exec is newish in weechat. weird
[15:56] <wxl> SunilJoshi: and could you do the same diff but on the folders and not the autostart?
[15:59] <wxl> SunilJoshi: actually do diff -u too
[15:59] <chulis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7245289/
[16:00] <wxl> chulis: how many network applets do you have?
[16:01] <chulis> i have two equal wifi icon
[16:01] <chulis> one eth1
[16:01] <chulis> and one eth0
[16:02] <chulis> on the panel
[16:02] <wxl> so bizzare.
[16:02] <wxl> i wonder if it's that network stat applet
[16:03] <chulis> dont understand
[16:03] <wxl> chulis: in fact, i bet that's it. remove network status monitor and add indicator applets.
[16:03] <wxl> anyways off to the store brb
[16:05] <chulis> if i remove notification area despaera icon wifi and weather channel as well
[16:17] <SunilJoshi> wxl: where i need to do this, diff of which 2 folders?
[16:19] <wxl> ok back
[16:19] <wxl> chulis: JUST "Network Status Monitor." only remove that one.
[16:19] <wxl> chulis: then ADD "Indicator Applets"
[16:20] <wxl> SunilJoshi: `diff -u /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu`
[16:26] <SunilJoshi> wxl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7245424/
[16:29] <SunilJoshi> diff: extra operand `|'
[16:29] <SunilJoshi> diff: Try `diff --help' for more information.
[16:31] <wxl> SunilJoshi: well good news is nothing there but what exact command did you use?
[16:31] <wxl> …to get the above error ↑
[16:31] <SunilJoshi> /exec -o diff -u /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu | pastebinit
[16:31] <SunilJoshi> wxl: how you get that arrow :) ?
[16:32] <wxl> SunilJoshi: might want to wrap the command in quotes next time
[16:32] <SunilJoshi> /exec -o 'diff -u /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu' | pastebinit
[16:32] <SunilJoshi> Error with command ''diff -u /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu' | pastebinit'
[16:33] <wxl> SunilJoshi: Ctrl-U 2191 is the easy way. in urxvt, you can do Ctrl-Shift-↑
[16:33] <wxl> SunilJoshi: i'm sure there's a super key function for it too
[16:34] <wxl> SunilJoshi: yeah you should include the WHOLE command (incl. | pastebinit) in the quotes
[16:34] <SunilJoshi> Error with command ''diff -u /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu | pastebinit''
[16:34] <SunilJoshi> nope :(!
[16:34] <wxl> strange. some odd parsing issue with weechat's plugin, i guess. irssi can handle it ;)
[16:35] <SunilJoshi> wxl: asked the this question in #weechat :), lets see what i get
[16:35] <wxl> SunilJoshi: do you have a Lubuntu and LXDE directory in ~/.config/lxpanel?
[16:36]  * SunilJoshi checking..
[16:40] <SunilJoshi> yes i do have
[16:41] <SunilJoshi> i have one more Lubuntu-Nexus7/
[16:41] <wxl> SunilJoshi: ok do the diff on those two directories (currently i'm not worried about the Nexus one)
[16:41] <SunilJoshi> wxl: ok
[16:42] <SunilJoshi> wxl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7245526/
[16:42] <SunilJoshi> command used : diff -u /home/om/.config/lxpanel/Lubuntu/ /home/om/.config/lxpanel/LXDE/
[16:47] <wxl> SunilJoshi: try the same thing on ~/.config/pcamnfm
[16:47] <wxl> er
[16:47] <wxl> pcmanfm
[16:47] <wxl> iff. there are two different subdirectories
[16:51] <vn151502510> SunilJoshi: Start Menu -> Preferences -> DesktopSettings -> Default applications for LXSession. Tab Running apps, look for Network GUI, command should be blank.
[16:51] <SunilJoshi> wxl: i have 3 different directory ,deafult; lubuntu; LXDE
[16:52] <wxl> SunilJoshi: it doesn't appear you're using default, so diff the other two
[16:53] <wxl> vn151502510: are you responding to the multiple wifi in taskbar issue? because that was for chulis
[16:53] <SunilJoshi> vn151502510: you also makes me think .. :-o
[16:54] <vn151502510> oh, sorry
[16:54] <SunilJoshi> wxl: give me a sec..
[16:54] <wxl> SunilJoshi: take your time. it's not like i don't have anything better to do ;)
[16:55] <SunilJoshi> wxl: :D!
[16:55] <SunilJoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7245595/
[16:55] <SunilJoshi> i made pastebinit crash it seems, while doing all this..
[16:56] <SunilJoshi> got a trace back
[16:56] <wxl> SunilJoshi: you can report a bug on that if you'd like.
[16:57] <wxl> oh!
[16:58] <wxl> SunilJoshi: there's only lubuntu-rc.xml in ~/.config/openbox, right? or are there two directories like the others?
[16:59] <SunilJoshi> wxl: lubuntu-rc.xml, lxde-rc.xml ,  these 2 files are there
[16:59]  * wxl facepalms
[16:59] <wxl> all that work and it's right freaking there
[16:59] <wxl> diff those two and we'll find the problem i'm sure
[17:00] <SunilJoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7245619/
[17:03] <wxl> SunilJoshi: especially with thiss one i need diff -u please
[17:03] <SunilJoshi> wxl: sure!
[17:04] <SunilJoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7245639/
[17:10] <wxl> SunilJoshi: it appears most of your keybinds in the lxde one are hidden in line 174. annoying.
[17:10] <SunilJoshi> wxl: its by default
[17:11] <SunilJoshi> i never changed that
[17:11] <wxl> i believe you
[17:11] <wxl> still, it sucks XD
[17:11] <wxl> it appears both have W-d set to ToggleShowDesktop
[17:11] <SunilJoshi> yes i checked this before coming to you again :)
[17:11] <wxl> so they should both have the same response
[17:11] <SunilJoshi> indeed!
[17:12] <SunilJoshi> wxl: Nevertheless thanks alot for your debugging!
[17:12] <wxl> it's possible that the tags are messed up but i can't see anything that would obvious make W-d messed up
[17:13] <SunilJoshi> hmm.. right!
[17:13] <wxl> SunilJoshi: you could try properly formatting it and see if you can come up with anything
[17:15] <wxl> SunilJoshi: i'm on a fresh 13.10 and i don't have one so that's probably a holdover from a previous install. you might want to try a live cd from one of those and see if you can come up with anything
[17:16] <SunilJoshi> wxl: ok!
[18:08] <SunilJoshi> wxl: /exec worked for me! /exec needs -sh option to make it work as it contains pipe (|)
[18:09] <Unit193> What client?
[18:09] <SunilJoshi> weechat
[18:14] <chulis> i have installed gkrellweather but i dont find the to run it ¿where is installed?
[18:54] <chulis> have installed gkrellweather but i dont find the to run it ¿where is installed?
[19:15] <ianorlin> I don't know but maybe try reading the man page but it looks like it is a graphical program
[19:19] <ianorlin> try running it from the terminal with a & after it to run it in the background
[20:04] <wxl> afaik you need gkrellm to use any of its monitors, including weather, chulis
[20:04] <ianorlin> yeah that is a dependency to the weather monitor
[20:05] <chulis> you mean i have to install gkrellm?
[20:05] <wxl> chulis: i mean you not only need to install it but you need to use it to see the weather monitor
[20:05] <ianorlin> I think if you installed the weather monitor from repos it should have installed it as it is a dependency
[20:06] <ianorlin> so you need to start it within gkrellm
[20:07] <chulis> yes i have installed from repos
[20:07] <chulis> synaptic
[20:08] <chulis> i have gkrellm 2.3.5 installed
[20:09] <chulis> gnu krell monitors
[20:09] <wxl> so load gkrellm to use the widget. consult the man page for more info or find someone that actually uses it :)
[20:09] <wxl> needless to say, it's not going to show up in your panel
[20:09] <chulis> i dont see in my panel
[20:09] <wxl> it never will
[20:09] <wxl> it's not a panel widget
[20:09] <ianorlin> it isn't a monitor for your panel
[20:09] <wxl> it's a "widget" if you will for gkrellm
[20:10] <chulis> so its a widget?
[20:10] <wxl> no
[20:10] <chulis> it would stya on desktop or where?
[20:10] <chulis> stay
[20:10] <wxl> i think
[20:10] <wxl> not sure
[20:10] <wxl> don't use it
[20:11] <chulis> do you have one of this applet?
[20:11] <wxl> no
[20:11] <wxl> but i know it's not an applet
[20:11] <chulis> weather i mena
[20:11] <chulis> mean
[20:11] <wxl> nope
[20:11] <chulis> ok
[20:13] <chulis> i have an applet (not sure if its a apllet) when system reeboot  it appears with two wifi icons and dont know why
[20:13] <chulis> in the panel
[20:13] <wxl> i already told you how to deal with this
[20:13] <chulis> bisides the clock
[20:14] <chulis> yes  i tried
[20:14] <wxl> you removed "Network Status Monitor?"
[20:14] <chulis> but i cant resolv
[20:14] <chulis> yes evreythin
[20:14] <chulis> even a new panel
[20:14] <chulis> and always the same
[20:14] <wxl> send a screenshot of the panel
[20:15] <chulis> impr pant?
[20:17] <chulis> I dont know how screenshot
[20:19] <ianorlin> scrot in a terminal works
[20:21] <chulis> im trying with gimp
[20:24] <chulis> doy you receiveded?
[20:25] <chulis> wxl?
[20:29] <chulis> il be back later
[20:30] <ianorlin> ok
[20:47] <chulis> ok did you recevied by ddc?
[20:47]  * ianorlin did not
[20:48] <ianorlin> oh it is starting
[20:48] <chulis> no run ddc?
[20:49] <ianorlin> it failed
[20:49] <chulis> ianorlin: ianorlin: doesnt star
[20:53] <Unit193> !imagebin


[00:14] <tohuw> Does anyone have a working SOGo implementation who can shed light on how they configured Postfix and Dovecot? I am unclear on how much and what configuration needs to be done in the respective configuration files to allow SOGo to use them.
[00:35] <patdk-lap> SOGo?
[00:36] <patdk-lap> oh, no more than the normal minimal setup required
[00:40] <sarnold> wow, this sogo actually looks tolerable :)
[01:02] <hallyn> zul: virsh -c qemu:///session list hangs in 1.0.6
[01:03] <hallyn> (keeps trying to access /run/user/1000/libvirt/libvirt-sock
[01:13] <tohuw> patdk-lap: Can you elaborate a bit? Do I need to configure Dovecot and Postfix to look to LDAP, for example?
[01:15] <tohuw> patdk-lap: Right now, I can send mail, but not save drafts (because no mail folders exist and it can't seem to create them), and I can't receive mail… I am unclear on what configuration I need to provide postfix and dovecot. Telnet mail tests to the server on 25 returns "Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table"
[01:16] <sarnold> tohuw: are there any errors in the logs?
[01:16] <tohuw> sarnold: Yes, sorry, should have mentioned that. One moment...
[01:17] <sarnold> yay errors in logs are a concrete thing to work with :)
[01:18] <zul> hallyn:  shit
[01:18] <tohuw> sarnold: In sogo.log I get several entries like: Jun 03 20:01:44 sogod [7677]: [ERROR] <0x0x7f49b9099e90[NGImap4ConnectionManager]> IMAP4 login failed: host=localhost, user=tohuw, pwd=yes url=imap://tohuw@localhost/ base=(null) base-class=(null)) = <0x0x7f49b91d4a40[NGImap4Client]: login=tohuw(pwd) socket=<NGActiveSocket[0x0x7f49b8b86990]: mode=rw address=<0x0x7f49b8b86a30[NGInternetSocketAddress]: host=isaac.tohuw.net port=59137>
[01:18] <tohuw> connectedTo=<0x0x7f49b91d4ba0[NGInternetSocketAddress]: host=localhost port=143>>>
[01:19] <tohuw> I find it odd it would try "tohuw@localhost", as I set a public domain for the server when I installed postfix, and configured this same domain in sogo.conf
[01:20] <sarnold> tohuw: did your imap client know about the domain?
[01:20] <tohuw> sarnold: meaning dovecot? That's a good question
[01:20] <sarnold> tohuw: well, I meant mutt or thunderbird or whatever..
[01:21] <tohuw> sarnold: You, mean just try to set up an IMAP account with a client and see what happens?
[01:21] <sarnold> tohuw: ah. I thought that's what you'd done so far.
[01:21] <sarnold> I mean, 'tohuw' got in the logs somehow.. :)
[01:22] <tohuw> Oh, that's sogo trying to connect me because I logged into the web interface, I expect.
[01:22] <sarnold> aha :)
[01:49] <cppCzar> If I installed the Dynamic updater from noip after registering on noip, how do I make my server sshable from across the internet?
[01:50] <hallyn> zul: though it's possible i'm having kernel issues...
[01:51] <zul> ill double check tomorrow but the tests paast
[02:06] <hallyn> zul: lp:qa-regression-testing scripts/test-libvirt.py passed?
[02:06] <zul> havent ran that one yet
[02:06] <hallyn> if so then yeah must be my kernel.  i'll set up a new vm
[07:03] <Syria> Hello, I have a problem with apache service, please see this link http://paste.ubuntu.com/5731767/
[07:17] <Tex_Nick> Syria : if you don't get an answer here, you might ask in #httpd
[07:55] <tohuw> Can anyone with a working SOGo implementation shed some light on how they configured Dovecot or Cyrus? I am receiving errors like "sogod [15890]: [ERROR] <0x0x7fe1825f18d0[NGImap4ConnectionManager]> IMAP4 login failed:*
[09:31] <Senor> what is the node for usb device?
[09:31] <Senor> under /dev
[09:32] <rbasak> Depends on the type of device. Not all USB devices necessarily have nodes in /dev
[09:41] <xlaire> hello good morning
[09:42] <Senor> rbasak:How can I look the files in usb device ?
[09:42] <MrQuist> Senor, you mean view?
[09:42] <RoyK> Senor: what sort of usb device is this?
[09:42] <xlaire> what are difference between ubuntu server and the ubuntu cloud
[09:43] <MrQuist> the one is a server the other is a cloud
[09:45] <xlaire> ok still don't understand
[09:45] <MrQuist> .w
[09:45] <MrQuist> heheh
[09:45] <MrQuist> A 'cloud' is a lot of servers combined
[09:45] <RoyK> cloud is more foggy, obviously
[09:45] <MrQuist> a 'server' is a stand-alone machine
[09:46] <MrQuist> Check out SkyNet, Matrix. That's all cloud-based.
[09:46] <xlaire> ty
[09:46] <Senor> MrQuist:yes
[09:46] <MrQuist> Rain is cloudbased as well.
[09:46] <xlaire> i think i understand it now
[09:46] <MrQuist> Great!
[09:46] <MrQuist> Also, google helps a lot.
[09:47] <xlaire> k thx MrQuist
[09:47] <MrQuist> xlaire, http://goo.gl/CBvR0
[09:48] <xlaire> :P
[10:17] <Senor> RoyK:removable parallel usb
[10:19] <yolanda> zul, jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~yolanda.robla/quantum/havana/+merge/167230
[10:20] <RoyK> Senor: parallel usb?!?
[10:20] <Senor> parallel bus
[10:21] <RoyK> url?
[10:25] <bicyus> hello everyone!
[10:56] <Daviey> adam_g: If the publish isn't done in a few hours, i will
[10:56] <Daviey> hallyn: Does sgabios still need review?
[11:21] <bicyus> Hi! has any of you get to deploy OpenStack with MAAS+JuJu on 12.04 ? i'm getting mad!
[11:54] <gray--> hi all, a few chaps from here recommended i use maas for deployment, so giving that a go today (roaksoax, you here? :) ).  I've come across this error on a vanilla 13.04 server install, with an 'apt-get install maas maas-dns maas-dhcp'
[11:54] <gray--> http://pastebin.com/Wkguv4Fg
[11:55] <gray--> reproducable via 'dpkg  --configure maas-region-controller'
[11:55] <gray--> but sadly, no more debug is given by -D2000
[11:55] <gray--> any suggestions? :)
[11:57] <gray--> (or smoser, if you're around pal?)
[12:09] <jamespage> adam_g, did you poke any SRU folks about the folsom and grizzly sru's pending?
[12:09] <jamespage> (before I go nag as well)
[12:16] <hallyn> Daviey: i don't think so.  it's in debian NEW, just waiting at this point
[12:22] <smoser> gray--, here now.
[12:22] <gray--> hey, how's it going?
[12:23] <smoser> its a wonderful day.
[12:23] <gray--> sure is!
[12:23] <smoser> let me look at that real quick. i suspect something in the configure script is confused by your network setup
[12:23] <gray--> doesn't happen very often in lonon!
[12:23] <gray--> london even
[12:24] <gray--> i had hoped there'd be enough debug to tell me what was calling that script… but alas, none
[12:25] <gray--> i''m actually reinstalling the server to make sure nothing funky happened first time round
[12:40] <bicyus> gray--: "dpkg-reconfigure maas-region-controller"  ?
[12:41] <gray--> hey bicyus, 2 mins, just reinstalling to see if it comes back
[12:42] <bicyus> ;-)
[12:43] <bicyus> i've tryed maas+juju on 12.04 with PPAs...
[12:43] <bicyus> installing a fress 13.04 now...
[12:59] <jamespage> bicyus, what problems are you having?
[13:15] <LargePrime> Dear server Gurus
[13:15] <LargePrime> i have ssh to my server
[13:16] <LargePrime> I want to ftp or rsync a dir on a SECOND remote server to My server
[13:16] <LargePrime> actualy the dir and all the sub dir
[13:17] <gray--> rsync -avP -e 'ssh -c blowfish' user@remotepc:/dir/ /var/tmp/localdir
[13:17] <gray--> blowfish, because it's lightweight
[13:17] <patdk-wk> gray--, only if you using OLD cpu's
[13:17] <patdk-wk> aes is so much faster
[13:17] <gray--> well there ya go :)
[13:17] <LargePrime> 1) i dont want -a cause all perms are changing
[13:18] <gray--> smoser: next error….  mod_wsgi (pid=9561): Target WSGI script '/usr/share/maas/wsgi.py' cannot be loaded as Python module.
[13:18] <patdk-wk> man rsync?
[13:19] <gray--> pesky, pesky maas
[13:19] <gray--> (at the bottom of the stack trace: DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory)
[13:19] <LargePrime> ok um sorry and i thank you all i think i no read good
[13:19] <LargePrime> yes a man rsync as it is a one of
[13:20] <rbasak> LargePrime: you might find the "A Better Way" section on http://sshmenu.sourceforge.net/articles/transparent-mulithop.html helpful. Then you can get to the far host via ssh in a simple way, at which point rsync becomes trivial.
[13:20] <LargePrime> i only have ftp credentials for the far host
[13:20] <LargePrime> rbasak:  reading now
[13:21] <patdk-wk> if your stuck with ftp, then you will just have to do ftp then
[13:21] <LargePrime> rsync cant use ftp?
[13:22] <LargePrime> on the close host i have proper ssh
[13:22] <patdk-wk> rsync can only use rsync
[13:22] <patdk-wk> ssh can only use ssh, scp can only use scp, sftp can only use sftp
[13:23] <LargePrime> so i have rsync on the close host.  i thought rsync could use the ftp credentals to do its magic
[13:23] <LargePrime> so i have rsync on the close host.  i thought rsync could use the ftp credentials for the far host  to do its magic
[13:24] <LargePrime> is that incorrect
[13:24] <LargePrime> ?
[13:24] <patdk-wk> is there anywhere in the rsync manual that says, supports ftp
[13:24] <smoser> gray--, shoot. sorry. forgot about you.
[13:24] <smoser> let me look at that first one again.
[13:26] <smoser> gray--,
[13:26] <smoser> sh -c 'while read Iface Destination Gateway Flags RefCnt Use Metric Mask MTU Window IRTT; do [ "$Mask" = "00000000" ] && break; done < /proc/net/route ; echo iface="$Iface"'
[13:26] <smoser> what does that show for you?
[13:26] <smoser> i suspect 'iface=""'
[13:27] <smoser> in which case i will also ask for your 'cat /proc/net/route'
[13:28] <smoser> LargePrime, i dont hink that rsync can use ftp . it can go over ssh though.
[13:29] <smoser> rsync user@host:/path/1/ ./target-dir/
[13:29] <smoser> gray--, i'll ask you to hop into #maas also. and continue this there.
[13:29] <gray--> smoser: sure, iface=rth0
[13:29] <gray--> eth0 even
[13:32] <smoser> odd.
[13:45] <AtuM> Hi! I'm trying to set up an access point.. I think I'm having issues with driver - I'm using ralink's rt2870 firmware with rt5572sta driver compiled from source.. "iw list" shows nothing at all, whereas "iwlist scan" shows some SSID info on ra0 interface..
[13:47] <yolanda> zul, any idea why ceilometer dbsync isn't working on testbed? i just install ceilometer-common, but ceilometer-dbsync doesn't create the sqlite database
[13:47] <yolanda> running it from a saucy chroot works
[13:47] <zul> yolanda:  nope
[13:48] <yolanda> i tried running ceilometer-dbsync manually and it seems to connect to database, but it doesn't execute the queries
[13:48] <LargePrime> ok so let me back up.  I need to get a directory, recursivly from a ftp server to my local server.  what is best practice.  I have ssh to my dedicated, but my connection my interupt
[13:49] <LargePrime> may inturupt
[13:51] <smoser> LargePrime, i might try lftp and its 'mirror'
[13:51] <smoser> there are ftp mirror programs
[13:52] <bicyus> gray--: after a fresh install of MAAS while installing from CD
[13:52] <bicyus> it seems there is some python wsgi package missing.
[13:57]  * zul grumbles
[13:57] <zul> smoser:  people still use ftp/
[13:58] <lunaphyte_> failed transfer protocol
[13:59] <zul> jamespage:  yay we need a newer subunit
[14:00] <jamespage> zul, unsurprised
[14:00] <yolanda> zul: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5732671/
[14:00] <yolanda> running ceilometer-collector
[14:00] <zul> yolanda:  looks like it needs a new dep
[14:00] <smoser> bicyus, you can reproduce that ?
[14:01] <smoser> roaksoax, ^
[14:01] <yolanda> do you want me to handle this?
[14:01] <zul> yolanda:  please im fighting regressions right now
[14:01] <yolanda> ok
[14:01] <bicyus> smoser: actualy i'm trying to fix it... isn't working
[14:02] <smoser> roaksoax, ^
[14:03] <zul> jamespage:  luckily debian has the one we need
[14:06] <roaksoax> smoser: what do you wnt me to take care of?
[14:07] <bicyus> Woops!
[14:08] <jamespage> adam_g, roaksoax: I think that aside from rabbitmq-server all the HA work is now landed
[14:08] <jamespage> (nice work guys!)
[14:08] <roaksoax> bicyus: what wsgi python package again? there's no wsig python package
[14:08] <roaksoax> jamespage: awesome!
[14:08] <smoser> roaksoax, bicyus and gray-- seem to be having issues with installing maas.
[14:09] <bicyus> roaksoax: there is a error related to mod_wsig
[14:09] <bicyus> i'm trying to determine what is it
[14:09] <LargePrime> smoser: I cant find a good lftp guide.  what should i google
[14:10] <roaksoax> bicyus: check if the wsgi module has been enabled in apache2
[14:10] <roaksoax> that might be the issue
[14:10] <bicyus> i've "sudo apt-get install --reinstall  maas-region-controller"
[14:10] <bicyus> going to check mod enable
[14:10] <smoser> LargePrime, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/lftp-mirror-example/
[14:11] <LargePrime> thank you sir
[14:12] <roaksoax> bicyus: is this raring?
[14:12] <bicyus> fresh 13.04
[14:12] <bicyus> maas install from cd instalation process
[14:13] <roaksoax> let's see
[14:13] <roaksoax> installed from CD right?
[14:15] <bicyus> woops again
[14:16] <bicyus> do you know any copy&Paste webpage?
[14:16] <bicyus> can't remenber any
[14:17] <bicyus> to paste apache error log
[14:17] <bicyus> [error] mod_wsgi (pid=3671): Target WSGI script '/usr/share/maas/wsgi.py' cannot be loaded as Python module.
[14:17] <roaksoax> bicyus: that might be an error with apache2 other than maas
[14:17] <roaksoax> bicyus: did you check that mod_wsgi was enabled in apache2?
[14:18] <bicyus> yes it is
[14:18] <roaksoax> bicyus: paste.ubuntu.com
[14:18] <bicyus> ;-)
[14:18] <roaksoax> rvba: ^^
[14:18] <roaksoax> rvba: [error] mod_wsgi (pid=3671): Target WSGI script '/usr/share/maas/wsgi.py' cannot be loaded as Python module.
[14:19] <bicyus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5732733/
[14:20] <rvba> bicyus: can you please make sure dbus is started and then restart it? sudo service dbus restart
[14:20] <roaksoax> yeah that seems to be dbus
[14:21] <bicyus> sudo service dbus status
[14:21] <bicyus> dbus stop/waiting
[14:21] <roaksoax> butchlugrobithat's the reason then
[14:21] <roaksoax> bicyuthat's the reason then
[14:21] <roaksoax> the log says it right rhthere :)
[14:21] <smoser> bicyus, just fyi, 'pastebin' is a wonderful program.
[14:21] <smoser> oops
[14:22] <smoser> pastebinit
[14:22] <smoser>  pastebinit /some/file
[14:22] <smoser>  some-command | pastebinit
[14:22] <LargePrime> smoser:  can i bug you
[14:22] <bicyus> smoser: now your a bug! ;-)
[14:22] <LargePrime> heh
[14:23] <smoser> LargePrime, i'm sorry, i dont really have time to help you with general lftp usage. I've used it at times in the past. probalby not in the past couple years though.
[14:24] <bicyus> new error after dbus service start, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5732755/
[14:31] <bicyus> rvba: it's working after a reboot, but it's weird dbus had stopped. loking at my command history, i've restarted networking with diferent IPs... maybe that caused the problem ;-
[14:31] <bicyus> )
[14:31] <ccssnet> hi all. quick question, will the 701mb iso burn to a cd? or am i stuck using a dvd
[14:35] <ccssnet> i suppose ill just edit the iso with isomaster and remove 1mb of crap
[14:35] <ccssnet> ;)
[14:35] <ccssnet> by all
[14:35] <ccssnet> bye*
[15:18] <enraged> Does anyone have OpenSSH 6.2 for Ubuntu 12.04?
[15:28] <henkjan> enraged: i have 6.1 packaged for precise
[15:29] <henkjan> http://obit.bit.nl/ubuntu/precise/openssh/
[15:29] <enraged> ty, I'll give it a look
[15:31] <henkjan> you could also try to install a deb from http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssh/
[15:34] <enraged> Hekjan: Thankyou for this but could you clairfy; This isn't the repositories, so what am I looking at?
[15:35] <enraged> Henkjan *
[15:36] <henkjan> enraged: 6.2 is packaged for new releases. i guess you can download the debs and dpkg -i them
[15:38] <enraged> Henkjan: I meant, what is this storage for/called? Just packages ready for future versions of Ubuntu?
[16:08] <adam_g> jamespage, i have not pinged anyone re openstack SRU yet
[16:32] <jamespage> adam_g, okay
[16:32] <jamespage> smoser, sorry missed the meeting - power went off for 30 mins
[16:32] <smoser> convenient.
[16:32] <jamespage> smoser, indeed
[16:33] <smoser> :). i'll email you your ACTION items.
[16:38] <daya> can we debootstrap ubuntu amd64 10.04
[17:28] <enraged> I want to install OpenSSH 6.2 on a server I ssh to running Ubuntu 12.04. Can anyone help me identify which of these packages is appropriate? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssh/
[17:29] <sarnold> enraged: why do you need a specific version?
[17:30] <enraged> What do you mean a specific version?
[17:30] <enraged> Sarnold - I just need sshd which I understand has client dependencies, so I want to know which package will work.
[17:30] <mdeslaur> enraged: the only version that's appropriate is 5.9p1 that came with 12.04
[17:31] <sarnold> enraged: what's wrong with the version you get with "apt-get install openssh-server" ?
[17:31] <enraged> Sarnold: Oh, I see what you mean; I want 6.2 for it's new authenticationmethods configuration option.
[17:32] <enraged> Sarnold: Right now I'm just trying to figure out which of these packages/tarballs is appropriate for my server.
[17:33] <parallel21> I've updated the path variable in /etc/environment to include an additional path and I've restarted the machine, but I'm still not seeing the path variable being updated
[17:34] <enraged> Sarnold: Since sshd has the client dependency, I'm guessing I have to install both client and server versions, but then I am not sure if it's openssh_6.2.... or ssh_6.2... I need.
[17:34] <henkjan> enraged: obit.bit.nl is the repo from my employer :)
[17:34] <sarnold> enraged: hrm, that configuration option does not seem particularly useful on a PAM-based system.. couldn't you configure the same thing with /etc/pam.d/sshd ?
[17:35] <enraged> I use ssh keys to login; keys bypass pam.
[17:35] <sarnold> hrm.
[17:36] <sarnold> enraged: for 12.04 LTS, only 5.9p1 is supported; you could try recompiling saucy's 6.2p2 version, but it wouldn't be supported..
[17:37] <enraged> Could you explain to me what the hell the numbers after the p represent?
[17:37] <enraged> I never understood this
[17:38] <enraged> Because there's an openssh_6.2p2-3 and an openssh_6.2.p2
[17:38] <sarnold> enraged: the 'p' versions are 'portable' -- all the stuff needed for non-openbsd (e.g. pam support) -- I believe the versions after the p are which release the 'portable' people have made
[17:38] <sarnold> enraged: .. the -3 represents the third version of the package from Debian -- though there's nothing that says -1 or -2 were released..
[17:39] <enraged> Sarnold: Ah, thankyou very much
[17:42] <enraged> sarnold: So to be absolutely clear, I'm after openssh or ssh from this pool?
[17:43] <enraged> sarnold: And yeah, as you have pointed out, I almost never download unsupported, non repository software, which is why I am annoying you so much with this.
[17:44] <sarnold> enraged: perhaps the thing to do is ask the backports team to prepare a backport of 6.2 for 12.04 LTS; that'd get you the archive and the version.. though it might be a while, I understand they have some backlog..
[17:45] <rbasak> jamespage: is there a bug on the golang armhf FTBFS?
[17:46] <jamespage> rbasak, nope
[17:46] <rbasak> OK. I'll create one in the morning with details.
[17:46] <rbasak> We need a dpkg task.
[17:48] <parallel21> How does one update the global path variable on the machine and not just locally. I've updated /etc/environment but the change does not seem to be taking
[17:49] <sarnold> parallel21: a fair number of shell startup scripts may override what is set by pam_env; check /etc/*rc /etc/*profile* and ~/.*rc ~/.*profile and so on...
[17:51] <yolanda> zul, found one of the problems with ceilometer, config settings have changed, now connection is under a [database] section
[17:51] <yolanda> dep-8-tests rocks!
[17:51] <yolanda> i can take care of it tomorow
[17:53] <parallel21> sarnold: I've been running /bin/sh sudo'd as a user with no home folder and then echoing out the PATH variable. That should allow me to get around any startup scripts and view just generally inherited global variables, right?
[17:55] <adam_g> jamespage, just noticed some of the security bugs we referenced in our rebase might be throwing off SRU tracking of the openstack stuff for nova + keystone in quantal.  http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html
[17:56] <adam_g> jamespage, i added ubuntu tasks to those bugs and closed them, hopefully that'll drop em from the tracker
[17:57] <sarnold> parallel21: depends upon how you started the shell that you used to start your sudo command
[17:57] <parallel21> sarnold: shucks… how do I know what global variables are set?
[17:59] <adam_g> zul, http://people.canonical.com/~agandelman/ca/folsom/python-keystoneclient_0.2.3-0ubuntu2.2~cloud0/
[18:13] <jamespage> roaksoax, is there a good way to see the hardware data that maas collects?
[18:13] <jamespage> some of my tags are not working as expected for larger nodes
[18:14] <roaksoax> jamespage: i guess check in the DB
[18:14] <roaksoax> jamespage: it's one of the plans to get this info easily readeable
[18:14] <roaksoax> rvba: i don't take you are still around?
[18:15] <Nolar2> anybody else having issues with ubuntu ec2 natty apt repo?
[18:16] <Nolar2> ec2-54-224-245-242.compute-1.amazonaws.com W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty-security/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[18:16] <Nolar2> ec2-54-224-245-242.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[18:16] <Nolar2> ec2-54-224-245-242.compute-1.amazonaws.com W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty-security/universe/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[18:16] <Nolar2> ec2-54-224-245-242.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[18:16] <Nolar2> ec2-54-224-245-242.compute-1.amazonaws.com W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[18:16] <Nolar2> ec2-54-224-245-242.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[18:16] <Nolar2> ec2-54-224-245-242.compute-1.amazonaws.com W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty-security/universe/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[18:16] <Nolar2> Err http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty/main libgomp1 amd64 4.5.2-8ubuntu4
[18:16] <Nolar2> ec2-54-224-245-242.compute-1.amazonaws.com   403  Forbidden
[18:16] <Nolar2> etc....
[18:18] <Nolar2> Failed to fetch http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-4.5/libgomp1_4.5.2-8ubuntu4_amd64.deb  403  Forbidden
[18:18] <sarnold> Nolar2: natty was end-of-lifed six months ago. natty's replacement was end-of-lifed one month ago. Time to upgrade. :)   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[18:19] <Nolar2> ya, doesnt mean the repo is deleted
[18:19] <Nolar2> was working fine yesterday
[18:19] <sarnold> Nolar2: perhaps the space has finally been reclaimed..
[18:21] <smoser> sarnold, yeah, you need to upgrade. i'm surprised it worked yesterday.
[18:21] <zul> adam_g:  +1
[18:21] <smoser> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ is your friend.
[18:33] <zul> rbasak:  still with us?
[19:04] <keithzg> Why are all my machines that I've upgraded to 13.04 still telling me I should update to 13.04? That seems . . . sloppy.
[19:05] <sarnold> keithzg: I think I saw a bug for that..
[19:06] <keithzg> Aha, yeah: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1173209
[19:08] <bitbyte> hey random question
[19:08] <bitbyte> any of you guys work in a datacenter
[19:09] <patdk-wk> someone working in a datacenter wouldn't be in this channel
[19:10] <patdk-wk> the last thing they would worry about is ubuntu, more concerned with physical security, power, routing
[19:10] <sarnold> and hearing protection? :)
[19:11] <bitbyte> \just asking
[19:11] <patdk-wk> :)
[19:11] <bitbyte> I'm applying for a job and have phone interview and was wondering what theirs might have been like :)
[19:31] <pmatulis_> i wouldn't say that the average person in this channel is "worried" about ubuntu.  anyone can be in here, no matter what their job is
[20:09] <oblivian> I want apache2 to be default restrictive so I added <Directory /> deny from all... etc. in httpd.conf. That's the correct file if I want the directive to be global for alle vhosts, etc?
[20:10] <oblivian> Also Options None in the same directive.
[20:11] <oblivian> I see the default server config file has the same directive, but I am not 100% sure that will propagate to all vhosts since it's in a VirtualHost directive.
[20:13] <oblivian> I'd rather allow access and options on vhost basis and deny all and everything by default.
[20:13] <SpamapS> oblivian: if you put it outside the vhost it is a "server config"
[20:13] <SpamapS> oblivian: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#directory
[20:15] <oblivian> Well, I want it to be a "server default". Where do I put the directive to make in "global"?
[20:16] <oblivian> I've put it in httpd.conf for now. But it also in the default server config file. But it is in a VirtualHost directive, so I am not sure it will propagate to additional vhosts as default...
[20:20] <oblivian> OK, I read the link. From what I gather httpd.conf is the place to put the directive to make it a global default.


[18:08] <rpadovani> balloons, o/ how are you?
[18:08] <balloons> rpadovani, o/
[18:08] <balloons> hangn in there
[18:10] <rpadovani> balloons, if you have 5 minutes, could you take a look to this branch an why it fails the autoland, please?
[18:10] <rpadovani> https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calculator-app/bignumber141224/+merge/245362
[18:11] <balloons> ahh the reboot. i see the issue
[18:26] <balloons> same thing other branch had. need to account for buttonpress duration
[18:27] <rpadovani> balloons, I see you just approved the new suite, does it fix the problem?
[18:27] <balloons> rpadovani, file an ap bug i'd suggest and ask doug5 to fix
[18:30] <rpadovani> balloons, thanks
[18:30] <rpadovani> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+bug/1408054
[18:36] <doug5> rpadovani, balloons ok guys, I will take a look tomorrow
[18:38] <balloons> doug5, i left a comment on the bug about it
[18:38] <doug5> balloons, saw it, thx
[18:40] <rpadovani> thanks doug5 :D
[18:42] <doug5> rpadovani, np :)
[19:33] <balloons> veebers, meet doug5. doug5 meet veebers. veebers leads ap development
[19:33] <doug5> veebers, hello!
[19:34] <balloons> veebers, doug5 has written some tests in autopilot and was keen to hack on the tool itself
[19:34] <veebers> doug5: hey how's things? (just OTP)
[19:35] <veebers> balloons, doug5 ah awesome news ^_^
[19:36] <doug5> veebers, fine, you? you need help on ap?
[20:11] <veebers> doug5: sorry was in a meeting. Yes contributions are always welcome :-)
[20:12] <veebers> doug5: Do you have anything in mind or just testing the waters at this stage?
[20:34] <doug5> veebers, second one :)
[20:37] <doug5> veebers, up to you to choose something good for me to start with
[20:38] <veebers> doug5: awesome, so first thing I would suggest is to take a look at the bug list: https://bugs.launchpad.net/autopilot/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.
[20:38] <veebers> bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on&search=Search
[20:38] <veebers> doug5: err, sorry for the long link, that's what I use :-)
[20:38] <veebers> doug5: a nice simple one to get started on and digging around in the codebase would be this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/autopilot/+bug/1308330
[20:45] <doug5> veebers, ok, I will take a look, thx :) Can I bother you in case of problems?
[20:46] <veebers> doug5: of course :-) I'm in New Zealand so be aware of timezone differences. Otherwise email is fine too
[20:46] <doug5> veebers, cool, thx :)
[20:47] <veebers> nw


[05:48] <cpaelzer> good morning
[05:48]  * bryceh waves
[07:35] <mirespace> good morning
[11:38] <goddard> morning
[11:55] <athos> good morning!
[13:17] <Odd_Bloke> o/
[13:36] <utkarsh2102> Odd_Bloke: o/
[13:37] <ahasenack> hi there Odd_Bloke
[15:18] <sergiodj> athos: FWIW I'm rebuilding/retagging the cassandra image.  for some reason the notification email was only sent to me and to the rocks ml
[15:24] <bryceh> good morning all
[15:27] <sergiodj> morning bryceh
[15:50] <athos> sergiodj: oh, ML regressions? :|
[15:50] <athos> bryceh: o/
[15:51] <bryceh> hey
[15:55] <sergiodj> athos: not sure.  the other notifications (the ones you already addressed) were sent to the right addresses
[16:21] <xypron>  falcojr: I am trying to to analyze why installation of a RISC-V server image hangs at cloud init https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rKc7GPPSx5/ SSH is available at that point but the SSH user is not set up yet.
[16:26] <falcojr> xypron: What platform? Do you have any other means of connecting to obtain logs?
[16:26] <xypron> falcojr: SiFive Unmatched
[16:26] <xypron> The installer mounts /var/log on some memory device, not the SD card
[16:28] <xypron> falcojr: on QEMU I did not see the problem. It specifically happens on the real RISC-V hardware.
[16:28] <falcojr> so you have physical access? Why can't you log in outside of ssh?
[16:29] <xypron> falcojr: I can press CTRL+C on the serial console but subiquity just gets me to the same message again.
[16:30] <xypron> falcojr: Video output stops earlier. So I cannot use monitor + USB console.
[16:33] <falcojr> xypron: I see, without logs, I don't really have much to to go on. I'm not sure I can be of much help
[16:34] <xypron> falcojr: https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/datasources/nocloud.html describes that you can load config from an http server. Would that be an option to inject commands?
[16:37] <falcojr> xypron: no, what can be passed there is limited. Do you need cloud-init for things to come up? You could try disabling it in the image, then connecting and running and see if it hangs then
[16:38] <xypron> falcojr: do you know how to disable it when installing via subiquity?
[16:39] <falcojr> xypron: hmmm, I don't. I wasn't thinking installer when I said that
[16:51] <xypron> falcojr: you hint was correct. On the USB keyboard I can already use CTRL-F3 to get another getty. That should be enough to start the analysis. Thanks.
[16:52] <falcojr> great!
[17:29] <Guest60> Hi, I am configuring landscape to mirror ubuntu repositories. I am following the landscape doc, but I have a question regarding  sync-mirror-pocket. I really need to wait to finish a pocket mirror before I can run the command to sync the next one? Or I can run and landscape will queue those sync tasks and execute it sequentially
[18:10] <ahasenack> Guest60: hm, I think there is a lock involved
[18:10] <ahasenack> if it's telling you there is a lock, then you should respect that
[18:11] <ahasenack> I remember issues where the machine crashed or was turned off during a sync, and it was complicated to fix that up
[18:38] <Guest60> ahasenack, actually I haven't tried to run the next sync command.. I was just wondering if I should give a try


[13:53] <alan_g> alf__: bug 1445473 is worrying. Are you working on it?
[13:57] <alf__> alan_g: Not yet. I just tried removing the transitive dependencies, but got various errors.
[14:23] <duflu> alf__: You might want to change pm-fail to pm (which is what I've already used in Mir bugs)
[14:25] <alf__> duflu: tvoss asked for this tag to mark bugs that with a proper architecture shouldn't be filed against USC but rather powerd or similar
[14:25] <alf__> duflu: (there was a discussion about reworking the power management architecture)
[14:30] <alf__> duflu: (repeating in case you missed them)
[14:30] <alf__> duflu: tvoss asked for this tag to mark bugs that with a proper architecture shouldn't be filed against USC but rather powerd or similar
[14:30] <duflu> alf__: Yep OK. I added "pm" for general power management bugs


[16:21] <gQuigs> I'm trying to clean up the wiki, and I'd like to use the special pages to help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WantedPages  /OrphanedPages /AbandonedPages, but they never load
[16:22] <developerpenguin> hey everyone :)
[16:23] <developerpenguin> im new to the team :)
[19:46] <VelhoP4_> man apt-get manual has translation deficiencies. the portuguese version in very complicated to read. Ive noticed that the english version is nice and simple. The translations seems to be done by google translate... can I check the manual in english, in my portuguese system?
[19:47] <VelhoP4_> also, hos can I report bad translations, and help to translate this (debian?) manual?
[19:49] <pleia2> VelhoP4_: looks like we pull that in directly from debian, you'll want to work with the debian translations team
[19:49] <pleia2> this page seems to document how translations are done in debian: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/l10n.html
[19:49] <pleia2> I don't know anything about it
[19:50] <pleia2> Ubuntu's procedure is via Launchpad, very different from Debian
[21:06] <sotiredofthesest> w/r/t the email from Peter: isn't the point of setting a bug to "triaged" to indicate that someone trusted has looked at the bug, ensured that it's correct, and set a priority?
[21:07] <belkinsa> pmatulis, ^^^
[21:09] <sotiredofthesest> Because 1327173 doesn't have a priority set, but I think it is relatively clear what the next step is, so does it matter if it's not confirmed?
[21:10] <sotiredofthesest> Phrased differently: is confirmation a prerequisite for triage?
[21:13] <sotiredofthesest> I'd say that the line "A member of UbuntuBugControl believes that the report describes a genuine bug in enough detail..." from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Bug%20statuses doesn't necessarily imply that, but
[21:15] <sotiredofthesest> ...ultimately,  does it matter for the sake of documentation?  Presumably people writing documentation are going through step by step in a clean VM and writing the steps they take.
[21:15] <belkinsa> sotiredofthesest, you can also send this to the mailing-list.  There might be more people there to reply.
[21:16] <sotiredofthesest> So that they would effectively be the people confirming it at they same time that they're fixing it.
[21:17] <sotiredofthesest> belkinsa, not worth an email IMO, I'm just spitballing
[21:17] <belkinsa> It is, because a discussion can evolve from it.
[21:18] <sotiredofthesest> That was my subtle way of saying that I don't feel comfortable broadcasting it on a mailing list. ;)


[04:06] <pleia2> knome: screenshots http://xubuntu.org/?page_id=534&preview=true (not published, need to be logged in to see)
[04:06] <Unit193> Doh... I can't view then.
[04:09] <pleia2> pretty much the same screenshots as on the front page, but bigger ;)
[09:13] <knome> Unit193, you can. go to xubuntu.org/wp-admin and you should be able log in with ubuntu SSO.
[09:14] <knome> (anyone on the xubuntu-team on LP should be)
[09:16] <knome> pleia2, btw, in the recent updates, the site will be locked to a minimun width of 980 - that means that you should be able to insert content up to 600px without having to worry about it overlapping the sidebar
[09:16] <Unit193> 0_o Well...
[09:16] <knome> pleia2, so to say, we could use bigger shots in that page
[09:18] <knome> pleia2, i also set the "large" size to 600x1200 to accommodate this...
[15:07] <ochosi> seems like the zeitgeist-recommend from UCS is not really necessary for it to work normally (even the history function seems to work ok without it)
[16:15]  * ochosi no like sean davis, he's reporting so many bugs today :/
[16:18] <ochosi> gah, abiword also changes the mouse-cursor
[16:18] <ochosi> what the hell is wrong with those people!
[16:47] <Unit193> ochosi: Not only that, but this "Simon Steinbeiß" person too... ;)
[17:11] <ochosi> Unit193: hehe
[17:12] <Unit193> Did you happen to get the link to the fork of your theme? It's not really the best, but it does exist nontheless.
[17:16] <ochosi> nope, where is it?
[17:18] <Unit193> https://github.com/daz4126/Blackbird/ It's.... one way to go with it.
[17:19] <ochosi> pff, that's just a fork of the initial version of blackbird
[17:19] <ochosi> it's extremely incomplete
[17:19] <ochosi> just a recoloring of greybird
[17:19] <Unit193> Aye, it's sure not complete.
[17:20] <mr_pouit> there's not additional commit?
[17:20] <ochosi> there are four or so, but mainly tiny tweaks and a different xfwm theme
[17:20] <mr_pouit> ah, in the blue branch, not master
[17:21] <ochosi> maybe i should contact the guy and ask him whether he wants to contribute
[17:21] <ochosi> yup
[17:23] <Unit193> Right, was just pointing out that it exists, never figured it'd be of much help. (I have that running on one, and a modidied shimmer one here.)
[17:26] <ochosi> hm, i see
[17:38]  * micahg wonders if our themes got hacked with the rest of github
[17:53] <knome> huh?
[17:54] <micahg> http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/uochHK5DvWc/github-hacked
[18:03] <knome> is pavucontrol seeded by default?
[18:03] <knome> and is there any reason not to, if not
[18:04] <knome> what's the image size situation?
[18:04] <micahg> no, we didn't need it before
[18:04] <jandrusk> Have they published any formal reports as to when the flaw will be patched/fixed?
[18:04] <knome> jandrusk, what flaw?
[18:04] <micahg> jandrusk: github's already been fixed
[18:05] <jandrusk> I guess my question is, do they know backdoors have not been placed within the system since it has been at risk?
[19:00] <micahg> \o/ we win, xfce 4.10 release after precise release, new date 4/28 :)
[19:00] <pleia2> :)
[21:15] <baizon> hehe