[22:38] <ilovefairuz> callgary: both are the same thing, try it
[22:39] <Aramil> j #rivendell
[22:39] <wizzo50> well a friend of mine said she formatted everything and wants to restore it back
[22:39] <infid> HTT-Bird: is there any other way i can get my syslog not to be flooded with ufw block messages on this port other than turning off loggin alltogether?
[22:39] <ilovefairuz> kinki: pastebin the file: /etc/fstab
[22:39] <capleton> HTT-Bird: that bad?
[22:39] <kinki> glebihan: you've done it... do you think itll mount them automatically on start up still or everything went back to normal?
[22:39] <ilovefairuz> !paste | kinki
[22:39] <glebihan> wizzo50: once you formatted, you cannot restore, you can only reinstall the system...
[22:39] <kinki> ilovefairuz: thx!!! got them unmounted already
[22:40] <cjmaynar> Hey  guys, I've got a boot problem on my ubuntu install - on start it tells me unreconized file system and dumps  me into grub-rescue. The following is the output of bootinfoscript: http://pastebin.com/MxfPnc7j
[22:40] <HTT-Bird> infid, no clue
[22:40] <callgary> exit
[22:40] <kinki> ilovefairuz: i guess i gotta restart to see if everything goes as suppossed
[22:40] <glebihan> kinki: it'll mount them automatically again
[22:40] <glebihan> kinki: you'll have to edit the /etc/fstab file to prevent this
[22:41] <kinki> glebihan: damn, was trying to avoid taht
[22:41] <kinki> *that
[22:41] <callgary> ilovefairuz: I changed GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 to =0  I am going to reboot and test it
[22:41] <glebihan> kinki: it's not complicated, you'll just have to remove the line containing /dev/sda3 in that file (or UUID=C6FA212EFA211C65)
[22:42] <wizzo50> \glebihan So do you go to restore then and that under windows control panel?
[22:42] <kinki> shall i do it on the terminal? or i can do it on the file itself?
[22:43] <martez89> hi, I'm on an Acer Aspire 5542,  but my notebook keeps shutting down because it gets overheated. it looks like the fans aren't even on..
[22:43] <unknown> hi,  currently i am using ubuntu 10.04 - karmic,  but i would like to use some packet (which is newer version) from maverick, can i do that?
[22:43] <capleton> HTT-Bird: infid?
[22:44] <glebihan> unknown: that is possible but not recommended
[22:44] <HTT-Bird> capleton, eh?
[22:44] <unknown> glebihan: well i would like to install just this packet form maverick repository, then i would change it back
[22:45] <kinki> glebihan, can i ask you on PM?
[22:45] <Guest81533> ok so i have an ubuntu-server fresh install and its not booting to grub so it won't allow me to boot the machine.  i do an fdisk -l and i get a list of the partitions that are expected by the guided partiion during install.. when i do a cfdisk on the /dev/sda1 i see fstype nothing defined as a type and nothing i don't have a bootable flag able to be set
[22:45] <glebihan> kinki: go on
[22:45] <Guest81533> why would fdisk -l give me differnt results that cfdisk?
[22:45] <glebihan> unknown: well you can try it, but you'll probably get some dependencies issues
[22:45] <wizzo50> \glebihan So do you use restore then, that under Control Panel?
[22:46] <glebihan> wizzo50: are you using Ubuntu ??
[22:46] <unknown> what i need to change?  in repositories everywhere it says lucid to maverick?
[22:46] <wizzo50> yes
[22:46] <wizzo50> my  friend isn't
[22:46] <Guest81533> can i just write the filesystem to  linux again and then make it bootable or will that erase the information already installed on the partition?
[22:47] <wizzo50> I don't remember on here how you page a name on here when typing to someone
[22:47] <Guest81533> but its already shone as a linux stem with id 83 in fdisk -l
[22:47] <glebihan> wizzo50: well this is an ubuntu support channel...
[22:48] <ilovefairuz> Guest81533: that's a "quick format" .. why do you want to do that?
[22:48] <wizzo50> I know. I haven't been on here for along time
[22:48] <glebihan> wizzo50: you'll find a ##windows channel if you need support with windows
[22:48] <wizzo50> Its not for me
[22:48] <wizzo50> Just for a friend
[22:48] <callgary> ilovefairuz: hey ilovefairuz the dumb menu still comes up.  Do I have to do an update grub?
[22:49] <wizzo50> How you find a windows channel on here
[22:49] <Belial`> try /list
[22:49] <glebihan> wizzo50: type "/join ##windows"
[22:49] <Guest81533> ilovefairuz, i don't know why fdisk -l and cfdisk are giving me different results... i don't want to do it... i just need to set the drive as bootable so that grub will be found
[22:49] <Belial`> or do that.
[22:49] <capleton> HTT-Bird: what does infid mean?  you said "infid, no clude"
[22:49] <ilovefairuz> callgary: is the line "commented" (starts with a #) ?
[22:50] <HTT-Bird> capleton, infid's another guy in this channel
[22:50] <soreau> Can anyone say how to get http://www.myp2p.eu/channel.php links to play in sopcast? Seems none of the links work correctly
[22:50] <capleton> aqh.  k.  nm
[22:50] <Guest81533> ilovefairuz, would using fdisk to set the bootable flag do what i want? i thought cfdisk would be easier but i get differnt information on the cfdisk... makes no sense to me
[22:50] <martez89> how can i force the fans in my laptop to be 100% on always?
[22:50] <sgh> have you ever heard about this bug: network-manager-gnome shows that the connection (wlan with ndiswrapper) is established yet the internet can't be accessed?
[22:51] <callgary> ilovefairuz: no it's not commented.  I saw something in the userguide about having to do an update grub for the changes to be applied.  I don't know???
[22:51] <Guest81533> martez89, that should be a BIOS option
[22:51] <FusionX> !help
[22:51] <FusionX> !commands
[22:51] <Guest81533> martez89, usually you have to turn on fan control
[22:51] <IdleOne> !msgthebot > FusionX
[22:52] <Guest81533> is there any way to set the bootable flag to a partition without overwriting modifying the information on the partition?
[22:52] <ilovefairuz> Guest81533: a partition doesn't have to be bootable for grub to find it, and the partition ID (i.e 83) is NOT the same as the filesystem (ext3 or 4)
[22:52] <MooshiMuushi> Question ;) Where are the programs installed? (Ubuntu 10.04) Like Program Files in Windows.
[22:52] <martez89> Guest81533, the BIOS does not have that option
[22:52] <glebihan> MooshiMuushi: there are several locations
[22:52] <martez89> Guest81533, at least not with this laptop
[22:52] <Guest81533> ilovefairuz, it is the drive that grub is installed on so it has to be bootable correct?
[22:53] <glebihan> MooshiMuushi: do you need to know for a specific program or is it a general question ?
[22:53] <MooshiMuushi> glebihan, Oh? Would you know where Firefox/Chrome would be installed?
[22:53] <manfredrasta> I am using lubuntu 10.04 but in #lubuntu there are 2 people and told me to ask here. I can see my wireless network but cannot connect it. More info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581170
[22:53] <glebihan> MooshiMuushi: type "whereis firefox" and you'll get the location of the firefow executable (same for chrome)
[22:53] <Guest81533> ilovefairuz, i've never even been able to create a drive w/o a partition set as bootable... even though i've not needed it to be
[22:54] <callgary> I just want to boot strait into ubuntu desktop - no grub menu - the menu has eight things to choose from
[22:54] <ilovefairuz> callgary: i don't think you need to update grub for this but its: sudo grub-install /dev/sda (or whatever your disk is) ..  pastebin your /etc/default/grub file
[22:54] <MooshiMuushi> glebihan, What about the resources that Firefox or Chrome needs.
[22:54] <ilovefairuz> !paste | callgary
[22:54] <sgh> have you ever heard about this bug: network-manager-gnome shows that the connection (wlan with ndiswrapper) is established yet the internet can't be accessed?
[22:54] <glebihan> MooshiMuushi: for firefox, they're in /usr/lib/firefox
[22:54] <ilovefairuz> Guest81533: what are you trying to accomplish?
[22:55] <manfredrasta> I am using lubuntu 10.04 but in #lubuntu there are 2 people and told me to ask here. I can see my wireless network but cannot connect it. More info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581170
[22:55] <kinki> glebihan: restarted and everythings perfect! thanks a lot again! byebye
[22:55] <Guest81533> ilovefairuz, i need my computer to boot to my linux system which is the only drive installed atm to avoid overwritting my data drives by mistake
[22:55] <stealth_> Hey people, whats the best most minamlistic music player for Linux?
[22:55] <bullgard4_> Applications > System Tools > System Profiler and Benchmark > (System Information) > Devices > Memory  shows in the bottom right a black empty grid. What information is this to convey?
[22:55] <glebihan> MooshiMuushi: for chromium /usr/lib/chromium-browser (I don't know for chrome)
[22:55] <callgary> ilovefairuz: are you asking me to paste the file so you can see it?
[22:55] <glebihan> kinki: you're welcome :)
[22:56] <MooshiMuushi> glebihan, Ahh, now this is what I was looking for ;)
[22:56] <Guest81533> ilovefairuz, as of now when i boot up it never does anything but give me a cursor that just drops down a few lines and stops which i've only had happen when the bios can't find an OS to boot to
[22:56] <MooshiMuushi> glebihan, Thank you glebihan :)
[22:56] <reidk> stealth_: vlc is pretty small and nice
[22:56] <manfredrasta> anybody helps me please?
[22:56] <callgary> ilovefairuz: we would need to start a different window for that.  no flood here
[22:56] <stealth_> Reidk, tried it and did not really like it
[22:56] <glebihan> MooshiMuushi: you're welcome
[22:56] <ilovefairuz> callgary: yes, paste the file
[22:57] <MooshiMuushi> glebihan, :)
[22:57] <ilovefairuz> callgary: use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:57] <stealth_> Any more suggestions reidk?
[22:58] <manfredrasta> ubottu, is a bad way to propone a problem by linking the forum thread?
[22:58] <ilovefairuz> Guest81533: how did this start to happen? and did you try reinstalling grub?
[22:58] <reidk> stealth_: let me think for a minute
[22:58] <manfredrasta> XD
[22:58] <callgary> ilovefairuz: can you see it??
[22:58] <ilovefairuz> Guest81533: did you use wubi to install ubuntu?
[22:58] <manfredrasta> so, can anybody help me?
[22:58] <manfredrasta> i have a wireless problem
[22:58] <ilovefairuz> callgary: paste the address of the page here
[22:58] <ilovefairuz> !details | manfredrasta
[22:58] <stealth_> Ahh ok reidk
[22:59] <callgary> http://paste.ubuntu.com/505333/
[22:59] <manfredrasta> ok
[22:59] <callgary> ilovefairuz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/505333/
[22:59] <reidk> stealth_: banshee is the only other one i've used.
[22:59] <Guest81533> ilovefairuz, i screwd up and in an attempt to restore a supernode i used mk2fs again afterdetermineing the backupsupernodes with it instead of e2fsck
[22:59] <ilovefairuz> callgary: sudo update-grub
[22:59] <Solved> Whenever I boot GNOME and not failsafe GNOME, my whole screen freezes if I get it to do something like open an application
[22:59] <sgh> have you ever heard about this bug: network-manager-gnome shows that the connection (wlan with ndiswrapper) is established yet the internet can't be accessed? happened in Lubuntu 10.04 and now in 10.10 also - yet it worked without problems for some time
[22:59] <stealth_> Reidk, I will give it a try
[23:00] <Guest81533> ilovefairuz, thus had to reinstall ubuntu-server on the drive... then it never boot to grub... now i need to get it to boot to grub... so that i can use the server
[23:00] <Solved> Whenever I boot GNOME and not failsafe GNOME, my whole screen freezes if I get it to do something like open an application. (Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (32 bit))  How Can I Fix This?
[23:00] <Guest81533> ilovefairuz, mounting the drive shows everything that should be there
[23:00] <manfredrasta> Im using lubuntu 10.04. At the begining I couldnt even see the network, but after sudo apt-get install pcmciautils, i could see it. Now, i click on it, but doesnt connect
[23:00] <callgary> ilovefairuz: that is what I thought
[23:00] <tacomaster> i was wondering i have my old pentium 4 computer doing nothing but routing internet from wlan0 to eth0 and it has lubuntu as the operating system but i was wondering if there was a way to make lubuntu run almost like ubuntu server with no gui all cli?
[23:00] <Guest81533> ilovefairuz, how can i reinstall grub to a drive that is mounted instead of the live cd...
[23:01] <unknown> thanks for help
[23:01] <unknown> gn :)
[23:01] <ilovefairuz> Guest81533: you mean FROM the live cd?
[23:01] <ilovefairuz> Guest81533: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20from%20LiveCD
[23:02] <Guest81533> ilovefairuz, yes... is it grub-install and specify the devise?
[23:02] <manfredrasta> ilovefairuz, did you read the details?
[23:02] <ilovefairuz> Guest81533: check that link
[23:02] <Solved> Whenever I boot GNOME and not failsafe GNOME, my whole screen freezes if I get it to do something like open an application. (Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (32 bit))  How Can I Fix This?
[23:02] <Guest81533> ilovefairuz, thank you... i thought i had checked that but maybe i missed something
[23:02] <ilovefairuz> manfredrasta: pastebin: sudo lshw -C network
[23:03] <manfredrasta> ilove
[23:03] <ilovefairuz> !paste | manfredrasta
[23:03] <mun__> hi
[23:03] <mun__> does anyone know how to completely quit/restart empathy?
[23:03] <manfredrasta> ilovefairuz, its all here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581170. If you dont want to read it, tell me and ill paste you the commands you tell me
[23:04] <callgary> ilovefairuz: when i type update-grub and hit enter it says "not found"  What am I doing wrong?
[23:04] <mattgyver> callgary, did you run it as sudo?
[23:04] <Guest81533> ilovefairuz, that looks like its to install grub to boot to a livecd... i'm using the livecd to fix it such that grub is definately installed on the drive.. you sure i don't have to have the bootable flag set on the ubutu-server drive?
[23:05] <callgary> I already have a # prompt
[23:05] <callgary> ilovefairuz: i already have a # prompt.  ie logged in as root
[23:06] <ilovefairuz> Guest81533: it's not to boot the live cd, it's to boot the partition you mount while reinstalling
[23:06] <ilovefairuz> manfredrasta: are you using a usb wireless adapter?
[23:06] <manfredrasta> ilovefairuz, no. it is a buil in card
[23:06] <callgary> mattgyver: I want to get rid of the grub boot menu and boot strait to the ubuntu desktop.  How??
[23:07] <ilovefairuz> callgary: are you use you've spelled it correctly?
[23:08] <callgary> ilovefairuz: copied and pasted the command from the grub file
[23:08] <Guest81533> ilovefairuz, i've configured grub many times, but never had a problem with it not being installed during an install... maybe i forgot to check it in the ubutu-server insall... agh this has been a frustrating day for a simple task
[23:08] <infid> is there a command-line log analyzer that's at least as good as ubuntu's gui 'system log viewer' tool? I want it to let me make different filters different colors, etc
[23:08] <ilovefairuz> Guest81533: just follow the instructions in that link
[23:08] <mattgyver> callgary, you would just change the timeout to 0 in /etc/default/grub.conf and run update-grub .. thats pretty much it
[23:09] <OttifantSir> Does anyone here know if Ubuntu 10.04 may be at fault for my media-computer not showing up as a LAN-client in my router's status? It gets a DHCP-IP from the router, but no bittorrent traffic is getting through either way.
[23:09] <bobstro> infid:  looks like ccze and lwatch might be what you want
[23:09] <ilovefairuz> callgary: type: which update-grub
[23:09] <bobstro> infid:  there's one will put log output on desktop as well.
[23:10] <callgary> mattgyver: update-grub produces "not found"
[23:10] <infid> bobstro: thanks i'll check em
[23:10] <callgary> ilovefairuz: the one at the top of the file "update-grub"
[23:11] <ilovefairuz> callgary: type the command 'which update-grub'
[23:11] <bobstro> infid:  colortail is the one i was trying to think of.
[23:12] <callgary> ilovefairuz: comes back with "/usr/sbin/update-grub"
[23:13] <ubuntu> hi to all ! do someone know how to install 10.10 rc ?
[23:13] <OttifantSir> Does anyone here know if Ubuntu 10.04 may be at fault for my media-computer not showing up as a LAN-client in my router's status? It gets a DHCP-IP from the router, but no bittorrent traffic is getting through either way.
[23:13]  * HTT-Bird pokes ubuntu with #ubuntu+1
[23:13] <infid> bobstro: sounds perfect thanks
[23:13] <ubuntu> I am getting Bus error (core dumped)
[23:13] <crankharder> anyone know if there are any how-tos for ganglia?  I got it installed and gmond is running, but no idea what it's doing or where the frontend is being displayed
[23:13] <ubuntu> help please
[23:14] <ilovefairuz> callgary: then the command exists, and it should run fine, perhaps something messed up your PATH, exit that root shell and type: sudo update-grub
[23:14] <ubuntu> really want to install it ! it doesnt install from the first menu ... it goes livecd ... then in the desktop icon it doesnt do anything ... when running on command line, it says Bus error
[23:14] <kpoman> sorry
[23:14] <OttifantSir> ubuntu: type /join #ubuntu+1 and ask there
[23:14] <kpoman> changed nickname
[23:14] <infid> bobstro: can't seem to apt-get colortail in ubuntu 9.10 :(
[23:15] <callgary> ilovefairuz: still says "/etc/default/grub: 1: I#: not found"
[23:15] <bobstro> infid:  ah, i know it's been around forever. try 'apt-cache search log | grep color' perhaps?
[23:15] <kpoman> someone know how to install 10.10 ?
[23:16] <jpds> kpoman: #ubuntu+1
[23:16] <ilovefairuz> callgary: remove the erroneous "I" at the very beginning of the file, before the #
[23:16] <Guest81533> ilovefairuz, well that got grub loading at startup but i guess i forgot to creat the grub.conf file
[23:17] <callgary> ilovefairuz: this should be simple.  I don't get  it!
[23:17] <infid> bobstro: that just shows ccze, loco and lwatch
[23:17] <infid> bobstro: i'll try compiling it from source i guess
[23:17] <ilovefairuz> callgary: in the file /etc/default/grub, the very first letter is an "I", remove it
[23:18] <bobstro> infid:  the others may be just fine too.
[23:18] <ilovefairuz> callgary: it shows up in your pastebin
[23:18] <m0ej0e> Anyone having Sync issues with an Iphone? The files say they transfer but they are un-playable.
[23:18] <infid> bobstro: i'm in love with teh idea of it being tail though now :)
[23:19] <smeding> FWIW - my earlier wifi issue has been resolved. the driver cannot enable the chip so i had to boot into windows and enable it
[23:19] <callgary> ilovefairuz: that's it!!!    works now!!!!!!!
[23:19] <Guest81533> ilovefairuz, well not that i have grub prompt where would be the path from thekernel possibly?
[23:20] <callgary> ilovefairuz: don't ask me where the "I" came from.  blame my fat fingers :)
[23:20] <callgary> ilovefairuz: rebooting again
[23:22] <ilovefairuz> Guest81533: you shouldn't be getting a grub prompt, you should be getting a menu of installed kernels, but anyhow, the kernels are in /boot/vmlinuz* along with the matching initrds
[23:23] <m0ej0e> What software works with Apple devices for Syncing music?
[23:23] <ilovefairuz> Guest81533: auto-completion should work
[23:23] <callgary> ilovefairuz: booted strait into ubuntu desktop.  Fast too!!
[23:24] <ilovefairuz> !ipod | m0ej0e
[23:24] <ilovefairuz> callgary: well done
[23:24] <Guest81533> ilovefairuz, i did that... i'm gonna check the config file for grub... if its not there i'll use the command to autogenerate one... i seem to recal there being one
[23:25] <m0ej0e> !ipod
[23:25] <m0ej0e> I don't get it lol
[23:26] <Spider_Fred> is it difficult to change desktop environment in ubuntu? I wat to try xfce
[23:26] <ilovefairuz> m0ej0e: how about you click the links?
[23:26] <ilovefairuz> Spider_Fred: you can install them side by side but it could get messy
[23:26] <callgary> ilovefairuz: now I just have to get my Canon LiDE 90 scanner working.  It is not recognized.  Any thoughts??
[23:26] <Spider_Fred> but when I uinstall other one it will be ok?
[23:27] <ilovefairuz> callgary: pastebin: lsusb
[23:27] <m0ej0e> ilovefairuz: There were no links in your text. I have also already gone to the ubuntu forms and did not find a solution there.
[23:27] <ilovefairuz> Spider_Fred: you can't easily uninstall a desktop environment..
[23:27] <ilovefairuz> m0ej0e: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto .. is that not a link?
[23:28] <ilovefairuz> m0ej0e: and the other one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[23:28] <Spider_Fred> ilovefairuz: ok so I guess I install debian
[23:28] <callgary> ilovefairuz: what if that paste url again??
[23:28] <jimisrvrox> anybody familiar with a program called plpbt-5.0.10? Needing some help trying to emulate USB booting..
[23:29] <ilovefairuz> Spider_Fred: that's irrelevant but good luck
[23:29] <m0ej0e> ilovefairuz: I have used those resources. They did not solve the issue I have. Those links were also not provided by yourself but a bot.
[23:29] <ilovefairuz> callgary: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:30] <jfarrell> hey guys, i have been trying for the past 30 to get ssh to start at system startup using update-rc.d - can anyone lend a hand, seems my linux is out of date
[23:30] <ilovefairuz> m0ej0e: now you've hurt ubottu's feelings ...
[23:30] <callgary> ilovefairuz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/505345/
[23:31] <ilovefairuz> jfarrell: sysv-rc-conf provides a nice ncurses interface to enabling/disabling services
[23:31] <callgary> ilovefairuz: scanner is Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04a9:1900 Canon, Inc. CanoScan LiDE 90
[23:31] <jfarrell> ilovefairuz, where can i find that file
[23:31] <Flannel> jfarrell: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[23:31] <jfarrell> 10
[23:32] <ilovefairuz> jfarrell: sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf && sudo sysv-rc-conf
[23:32] <callgary> ilovefairuz: do I have to mount it or something??
[23:32] <Flannel> jfarrell: All you need to do to get ssh (the server, right?) to start when you boot is install the 'openssh-server' package
[23:32] <Flannel> jfarrell: There's nothing else required, just `sudo apt-get install openssh-server` and you're done
[23:32] <jfarrell> Flannel, yup
[23:32] <chazz> someone told me to run `sudo -c "echo 1 > /dev/sda"`, could someone please explain what that does? o.o
[23:33] <jfarrell> Flannel, i have ssh already installe, though i did apt-get install ssh
[23:33] <nucc1> guys, from the output of "ping" which is of this format 'min/avg/max/mdev' , what does the 'mdev' mean?
[23:33] <jfarrell> but it is NOT starting at boot
[23:33] <Flannel> chazz: Don't run it.
[23:33] <chazz> Flannel, what does it do?
[23:33] <srihari_> Hi  , i am able to boot into 10.04 only by using the "noapic nolapic "  options , otherwise my mouse and keyboard are stuck , is there any real soultion for this ? (currently only one of my cpucores is detected)
[23:34] <jfarrell> strange, ps aux has ssh running
[23:34] <Flannel> chazz: It writes a '1' to your hard disk, causing boot troubles, I'm sure.
[23:34] <jfarrell> yet when i attempt a remote connection i get nothing
[23:34] <chazz> Flannel, oh
[23:34] <Flannel> jfarrell: Can you connect locally?
[23:34] <ilovefairuz> callgary: http://www.sane-project.org/unsupported/canon-lide-90.html .. you should file a bug report, join #ubuntu-bugs for help with that
[23:34] <jfarrell> Flannel, affirmative
[23:34] <jfarrell> i am backing the ssh out going to run the command you indicated above
[23:35] <Flannel> jfarrell: I meant locally over ssh, it's likely not an ssh issue if you can connect locally
[23:35] <jfarrell> Flannel, strange, it is saying i already have ssh
[23:35] <jfarrell> :)
[23:35] <Flannel> jfarrell: 'ssh' installs openssh-server, so yeah, you do.
[23:35] <jfarrell> network is unreachable
[23:35] <Flannel> jfarrell: Are you port forwarding at your router successfully?
[23:36] <jfarrell> Flannel, this is all inside the network
[23:36] <Flannel> jfarrell: Do you have the correct IP?
[23:36] <jfarrell> yes
[23:36] <jfarrell> wait one
[23:37] <jfarrell> check that, i do not have an IP
[23:38] <jfarrell> Flannel, ahh i found the problem
[23:38] <Flannel> jfarrell: Good to hear
[23:38] <jfarrell> its the wireless
[23:38] <jfarrell> it doesnt connect until i login via X
[23:38] <jfarrell> how to automate that?
[23:39] <jfarrell> or would it be easier to just grab a cable?
[23:39] <extor> I hate my ubuntu windows freezing and dimming every time I rub their hair the wrong way. Is it some sort of green mode gone crazy, anyone else have that problem?
[23:39] <spike> hi, is it possible to remap the copy/paste keys from control-c/v to something else?
[23:39] <jrib> spike: why?  Do you know about middle click to paste?
[23:40] <infid> bobstro: any idea why colortail shows colors by default without any commandline args when i apt-get it in ubuntu 10.04, but when i compiled from source in ubuntu 9.10 i had to use -k /path/to/conf.global?
[23:41] <jfarrell> Flannel, i dont suppose you have any ideas on how to autoamte that portion
[23:41] <jrib> infid: probably because of how you compiled it?
[23:41] <infid> jrib well the README only says to do it this way
[23:41] <spike> jrib: I do, I still want to remap them. any idea how?
[23:41] <Flannel> jfarrell: I don't, no.  I don't deal with wifi a whole lot.  Someone else in this channel can probably help you though, just not me :)
[23:41] <jrib> spike: you didn't answer "why?"
[23:42] <Blueblaze> can I run my VB.net apps in Ubuntu?
[23:42] <jfarrell> this is rather amusing, i must admit :) I have to be logged into X for the machine to connect to the network
[23:42] <infid> jrib: i guess i can just alias it to that command
[23:42] <jfarrell> Blueblaze, in theory, if you use Mono
[23:42] <jrib> infid: why don't you just use the repository's version anyway?
[23:42] <jfarrell> though i do not recall if Mono supports VB .net syntax
[23:42] <infid> jrib the repos version doesnt even have a ./configure script
[23:42] <Blueblaze> ah alright, thanks
[23:42] <jrib> infid: so?
[23:42] <sweetpi> jfarrell: if you want wifi to connect at boot like wired, use wpa_supplicant and add to /etc/network/interfaces
[23:42] <infid> jrib so i dont know how to install it
[23:43] <jfarrell> sweetpi, i think ill just go buy a cable
[23:43] <jfarrell> which, as this is a server, id rather have it wired anyway
[23:43] <jrib> infid: I don't understand.  It sounds like you already installed colortail through the repositories and used it at some point.  Am I mistaken?
[23:43] <mun__> does anyone know how to completely quit/restart empathy?
[23:43] <trism> jfarrell: if you set it up with network manager, it won't connect until you log in unless you install the connection for all uses (which makes sense in a way, but installed for all users should probably be default)
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> mun__: killall empathy
[23:44] <infid> jrib: no i ended up gettin the tarball from a non repo
[23:44] <demonspork> mun__, I recommend you use sudo apt-get remove empathy-client and then do sudo apt-get install pidgin. Empathy is bad
[23:44] <demonspork> or empathy or whatever
[23:44] <jrib> infid: then how do you know the behavior is different in the apt-get version?
[23:44] <infid> wjat
[23:44] <infid> what's wrong with empathy
[23:44] <infid> jrib: because i have two different ubuntu systems
[23:45] <jrib> infid: " any idea why colortail shows colors by default without any commandline args when i apt-get it in ubuntu 10.04"
[23:45] <jrib> infid: are you saying that colortail is not in 9.10 repositories?
[23:45] <infid> jrib: correct
[23:45] <istevenmon> hi guys, does anyone knows if uCARP has the same features as CARP in OpenBSD? i want to use the arp load balancing feature
[23:45] <infid> by repository i thought you maent it's github repo
[23:45] <jrib> !backports | infid
[23:45] <jrib> infid: just rebuild the lucid package
[23:45] <mun__> demonspork, but can pidgin be used with the Me menu?
[23:46] <demonspork> mun__, I don't know
[23:46] <razz1> can someone confirm if yahoo mail is down. I cannot get to the mail web page.
[23:46] <spike> jrib: if I answer 'why', will you answer my question?
[23:46] <demonspork> razz1, http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com
[23:46] <capleton> Hi everyone, I'm having a lot of trouble connecting through my wireless card.  "iwlist scan" returns the access point, I connecto to it through "iwconfig wlan0 ...etc" but then "iwconfig wlan0" shows that it is not associated.  There is no encryption.  Does anyone know what might be going on here?
[23:46] <jrib> spike: there's one way to find out for sure...
[23:47] <capleton> anyone?
[23:48] <infid> jrib: i dont see colortail in the backports for karmic http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic-backports/allpackages
[23:48] <jrib> infid: just rebuild the lucid package
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> capleton: what chip does: sudo lshw -C network    say it is?
[23:48] <spike> jrib: I'm running maverik on a mac, the control key is "displaced" and it makes for very uncomfortable shortcuts. And please note that I don't swap to swap control and apple key, I literally just want to override C-c and c-v.
[23:49] <infid> jrib: i dont know how
[23:49] <brucelee> what exactly is causing my ubuntu vm to resolve <IP_ADDRESS> as ubuntu.local
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> !10.10 | spike
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> brucelee: try setting your DNS to <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:49] <brucelee> <IP_ADDRESS> is the ip of the ubuntu vm, but why is it 'ubuntu.local' i know ubuntu is the name of the machine
[23:49] <jrib> infid: the !backports link probably talks about it.  But one way is to just grab the source package and rebuild it...
[23:49] <brucelee> ActionParsnip: how do i do this? :P
[23:49] <jrib> !source > infid
[23:49] <jambort_> hi all, can anybody help me? i have an amature question about ibm server with ubuntu
[23:50] <aeon-ltd> !ask | jambort_
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> brucelee: http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using.html
[23:50] <capleton> ActionParsnip: it's a Prism GT/Prism Duette/ISL3886 [Prism javelin/prism Xbow]
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> capleton: ok websearch for that, you will find guides
[23:51] <capleton> ActionParsnip: ty.  will do
[23:52] <Guest81533> ilovefairuz, grub-mkconfig -o grub.conf returns /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannont find a deice for / (is /dev mounted?)
[23:52] <jrib> hmm
[23:52] <jambort_> sorry, my question is: is there any option to get ibm sensors value without remote console card?
[23:52] <jrib> enjoy the ride folks...
[23:53] <brucelee> ActionParsnip: i completely lost internet access on that vm now
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> brucelee: then undo the change
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> brucelee: i suggest you use a bridged connection if you use a router
[23:54] <bobstro> infid:  no idea, sorry. (was away for a bit)
[23:54] <callgary> ilovefairuz: Sent bug report including output from "sane-find-scanner -v -v"  and "lsusb"
[23:54] <brucelee> ActionParsnip: yeah the VM setting is at bridged
[23:54] <brucelee> <IP_ADDRESS> gets resolved to ubuntu.local though
[23:54] <brucelee> instead of <IP_ADDRESS> ;P
[23:55] <callgary> ilovefairuz: I hope it helps.  Is that it, we wait for them to add it to the updates or what??
[23:55] <Guest81533> where should i put my grub.conf file if it was not automatically generated by grub-install
[23:56] <razz1> sorry lost internet connection. same question again. can someone confirm if yahoo mail is down. I cannot get to the mail web page.
[23:56] <iarp> razz1: i can access it just fine
[23:59] <callgary> razz1: yahoo mail is up for me
[23:59] <razz1> iarp:  that's interesting. even in zimbra it's offline. I can access gamil just fine. Any help?
[23:59] <callgary> razz1: fast too!!
[23:59] <bleck> i have an entry in crontab that was created by ubuntu upon installation, and it has the dow set to 7. I thought it only went from 0(sun) to 6(mon) ?


[09:59] <zzarr> hello!
[10:00] <zzarr> I get this message booting an ARM based device "[!!!!!!] Failed to mount API filesystems, freezing."
[10:01] <zzarr> what could be wrong?
[10:02] <zzarr> I'll pastebin
[10:03] <zzarr> http://pastebin.com/5yz1WgXt
[10:04] <zzarr> the fstab is completely empty
[10:09] <apw> zzarr, are those pseudo filesystems enabled in the kernle configuration ?
[10:11] <zzarr> apw, I realized that I'm booting the wrong kernel
[10:11] <zzarr> I'll be back if the new kernel don't solve the problem
[10:12] <zzarr> I derped ;)
[10:32] <mamarley> apw: Did you see what I posted last night about the busted 4.6.1 mainline build?
[10:33] <apw> mamarley, and does the -generci version of that work ?
[10:33] <mamarley> apw: I will try that right now, one sec…
[10:34] <apw> mamarley, i am going to assume not, as they are basically the same
[10:35] <mamarley> That's what I would guess too, but I am still trying it.
[10:35] <apw> mamarley, it looks like something useful is turned off, not the error initialiseing the udev socket
[10:35] <mamarley> I can tell you that 4.6.1 compiled myself from the linux-stable tree (on Xenial, using the configuration from the 4.6.0 mainline build) does work, but I can't actually run it because I am getting weird DKMS build failures.
[10:37] <mamarley> Yeah, that's what I figured too.
[10:38] <apw> not thati have a 4.6.1 stable tag here, wtf
[10:38] <apw> in the stable tree
[10:39] <mamarley> apw: The -generic kernel has exactly the same problem.
[10:41] <apw> which prolly means the main configuration on unstable is broken
[10:42] <mamarley> I am going to diff the config between 4.6 and 4.6.1 and see if anything pops out at me.
[10:44] <mamarley> apw: Aha, CONFIG_UNIX switched from "y" to "m".  That looks fishy.
[10:44] <apw> mamarley, yep
[10:44] <mamarley> Actually, a bunch of stuff switched from y to m.
[10:45] <apw> and that is expected, we're pulling things out and seeing what breaks
[10:45] <apw> AF_UNIX though may well be a step too far :)
[10:45] <apw> i'll poke the player in the game
[10:47] <mamarley> That's the only thing I see that would obviously break the system.
[11:04] <mamarley> It also looks like something is screwed up with "make deb-pkg".  When I follow the first set of instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild, DKMS fails to build the NVIDIA module against that kernel.  From the build log, it looks like it skips compiling and goes straight to linking, which of course fails due to files not found.
[11:05] <mamarley> The second set of instructions on that page produce a package that allows DKMS to compile stuff just fine though.
[11:27] <apw> mamarley, that would not supprise me, its not a method of building "we" in the team use often if at all, so if it gets broke we prolly won't notice
[11:35] <mamarley> I will file a bug report on that later.  Right now I have to go to work, and after work I have an brand-new NVMe SSD to install in my computer!
[11:47] <mamarley> apw: Is there any way I can simulate the mainline kernel build on my own computer?
[11:54] <apw> mamarley, its pretty simple, it just applies config from the nearest ubuntu release
[11:55] <apw> mamarley, then does fakeroot debian/rules clean binary-<flavour>
[11:55] <mamarley> OK, I shall try that.
[11:58] <mamarley> apw: Where does the debian directory come from?  Is it just copied out of the nearest Ubuntu kernel release too?
[11:58] <apw> mamarley, yep exactly that
[12:00] <mamarley> Cool, thanks!
[16:38] <mamarley> apw: You might be interested in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1585587 too (regarding CONFIG_UNIX).


[12:15] <exalt> hello
[12:15] <exalt> Emmanuel_Chanel: how is the situation with the nuclear reactor? heard something about grey smoke ?
[12:57] <Emmanuel_Chanel> exalt: I don't know. I've heard that news on IRC but I haven't seen its detail...


[00:32] <doug16k> why do I have to log into a machine to connect to its desktop sharing? it's awful if I have to go locally do a bunch of stuff before I connect
[00:33] <doug16k> at first I thought it was because no monitor was connected, apparently that wasn't it
[00:34] <doug16k> oh yeah, and if I unplug the monitor, desktop sharing screen stops updating
[01:56] <tatertots> doug16k: nobody has a "session" you can connect to remotely until a user logs in locally (stock by default)
[01:57] <tatertots> doug16k: not as awful as it might seem on the surface
[01:58] <tatertots> doug16k: if no local user has logged into their session, there's nothing for you to connect to (yet)
[02:05] <doug16k> ah, I thought it was usable to connect to a running machine in another room
[04:57] <thecocoa1> 1
[05:05] <abcdefg_irssi> hello
[05:05] <abcdefg_irssi> can someone help me
[05:06] <abcdefg_irssi> i am trying to login to a server via ssh
[05:06] <abcdefg_irssi> but keep getting network is unreachable
[05:06] <abcdefg_irssi> is the command just ssh username@ip-address
[06:42] <alystair> is there a way for me to review changelogs for outdated apt-get packages before updating?
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> alystair: whats your end goal exactly?
[06:47] <alystair> I like to know what's being updated before I update it - this is just my local development box :D
[06:48] <alystair> I blindly apt-get update/upgrade every few days but feel it might eventually bite me in the ass
[06:48] <alystair> via CLI
[06:49] <alystair> under WSL2 :D
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> alystair: lets say you found a changelog and dont like the new feature of your updated program, its still reccomended to keep your system up to date right?
[06:51] <alystair> I still like to know what has changed...
[06:52] <alystair> knowledge is power after all!
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> true/fair
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> alystair: apt-get changelog packagename
[06:54] <alystair> seems there's a changelog function but I need to get a list of my currently installed packages because I hardly remember the names of the ones I feel are important lol
[06:55] <alystair> aha got it
[07:38] <atari2600a> hey, can y'all thank the #ubuntu+1 team for fixing half the shit I bitched about before they banned me?  The ability to change sessions at the gdm screen is back.  xwayland is still broken though, but at least I have x back. & therefore, 24-bit graphics.
[07:39] <atari2600a> don't get me wrong I'm not one of those anti-wayland FREAKS.  It's just, the vc4 implementation is all kinds of broken right now.  Reminds me of x86 wayland in 2014 actually
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> please keep language polite in the support channel atari2600a
[07:39] <atari2600a> 'support' lol
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> discuss in #ubuntu-discuss leave this channel free for support questions tnx
[07:40] <atari2600a> oh, & it's not like I didn't try the usual, like dpkg-reconfigure xwayland
[07:40] <atari2600a> oh it's free alright
[07:41] <atari2600a> HELLO Hello hello hello hello [hello] (hello)
[07:41] <atari2600a> kthxbye
[07:44] <Deknos> does debsecan also work on ubuntu properly?
[07:44] <Deknos> or will it also use the debian CVE entries?
[08:18] <guiverc> Deknos, from what I can see it's a debian tool & uses debian CVE trackers
[08:24] <Deknos> is there an equivalent for ubuntu?
[08:25] <cbreak> didn't ubuntu switch away from wayland again?
[08:26] <guiverc> Deknos, url via https://ubuntu.com/security/cve (not a system check though) but i saw reference to the Ubuntu security team pushing people towards lanscape
[08:27] <guiverc> cbreak, ubuntu-discuss for non-support questions.
[08:41] <Deknos> yeah, i know the URL. but i thought, perhaps there's something for system checks. thanks!
[09:42] <strk> inserting an SD card in the SD card slot reader doesn't trigger *any* message printed from `journalctl -xf`, does it mean the hardware is broken ?
[09:44] <strk> ok, embarassingly.... I did NOT insert an SD card, just an (empty) adaptor :')
[10:08] <ubuntutr> ji
[10:08] <ubuntutr> hi
[10:08] <ubuntutr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YJd7kbfw8F/
[10:08] <ubuntutr> i have this problem
[10:09] <VMGuy23[m]> hello ubuntutr, I'm just looking at the problem now.
[10:11] <VMGuy23[m]> it looks like a MySQL problem. it seems that mySQL can't open that .cf file. Check the .cf file for errors, or if you used a generator, regenerate it.
[10:19] <ubuntutr> VMGuy23[m] thank you
[10:21] <ubuntutr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bFKMYBvPqW/
[10:21] <ubuntutr> what should I do?
[10:23] <VMGuy23[m]> Does e_forwardings exist?
[10:23] <ubuntutr> i use Cloudflare
[10:27] <VMGuy23[m]> I don't know too much about MySQL. See if you can find a channel for it (#mysql or ##mysql might work) or hopefully someone else can help soon if your problem isn't solved.
[10:56] <cuttiepie> Hi
[10:56] <cuttiepie> What I just see is _ when I boot ubuntu . Like what's going on?
[11:01] <cuttiepie> Ok this is what happened : Power outrage while system was in update from 18 to 20.04. 75% process completed probably and then when system was turned on again for completing the process of upgradation, there was kernel panic error : unable to mount vfs root fs on unknown block (0,0). I followed this :
[11:01] <cuttiepie> https://askubuntu.com/questions/41930/kernel-panic-not-syncing-vfs-unable-to-mount-root-fs-on-unknown-block0-0 to solve it but after that there is just one underscore that appears on screen .
[11:02] <Deano59> re-install cuttiepie, you messed up. :)
[11:03] <cuttiepie> reinstall ! How ?
[11:03] <Deano59> usb, disc, up-to-you. lol
[11:04] <cuttiepie> like there is one more option , i can go to recovery mode with same kernel version or t
[11:04] <cuttiepie> *other
[11:06] <cuttiepie> and then to root shell prompt. would you like to help me with that ?
[11:07] <Deano59> no.
[11:08] <cuttiepie> so rude
[11:09] <Deano59> rude? how?
[11:09] <cuttiepie> Ok sorry. Maybe d
[11:09] <cuttiepie> you dont have enough knowledge for that
[11:10] <Deano59> wait around, someone else might help.
[11:10] <Deano59> I'm bust eating doritos. lol
[11:10] <Deano59> busy*
[11:28] <cuttiepie> Anybody awake ??
[11:29] <wyoung> cuttiepie: Yes
[11:29] <cuttiepie> There was power outrage while system was in update from 18 to 20.04. 75% process completed probably and then when system was turned on again for completing the process of upgradation, there was kernel panic error : unable to mount vfs root fs on unknown block (0,0). I followed this :
[11:29] <cuttiepie> https://askubuntu.com/questions/41930/kernel-panic-not-syncing-vfs-unable-to-mount-root-fs-on-unknown-block0-0 to solve it but after that there is just one underscore that appears on screen .
[11:31] <cuttiepie> initramfs has been generated though
[11:32] <cuttiepie> by following the above link
[11:33] <tatertots> the joys of upgrading
[11:41] <cuttiepie> please save my system. I would like to offer whateveer
[12:00] <nojjjj> can you install an tiling manager onto ubuntu vanilla? If dont, would that render the desktop manager inactive or remove/deactivate elements of the D.E?
[12:01] <nojjjj> *if done
[12:05] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:05] <Aavar> nojjjj: Yes to the first question.
[12:05] <nojjjj> ty
[12:07] <nojjjj> do you know the default tiling manager used by desktop, or doesnt ubuntu have one; the desktop manaager controls the windows tiles etc
[12:08] <nojjjj> all gud having a google and youtube watch
[12:10] <Aavar> nojjjj: I don't understand. Are you asking how to install a tiling manager? We know what it is :)
[12:13] <nojjjj> soz 4being unclear. i was asking if ubuntu's desktop manager has a name?
[12:14] <nojjjj> i would also like to know if a tiling manager is part of a desktop manager or if they are separate either/or things
[12:15] <BluesKaj> nojjjj, please don't use text speak
[12:16] <nojjjj> eg you either have a tiling manager or you have a desktop manager but not both? this im unsure about as well. text speak okay
[12:24] <nojjjj> BluesKaj, so about my question do can you help mate
[12:25] <BluesKaj> take a look at your package manager for tiling and read the info there, nojjjj
[12:34] <nojjjj> so apt-cache search tiling manager how do i get information about the package?
[12:35] <nojjjj> got it
[12:39] <BluesKaj> there are gui package managers like like synaptic etc
[12:40] <nojjjj> ty
[12:52] <cuttiepie> There was power outrage while system was in update from 18 to 20.04. 75% process completed probably and then when system was turned on again for completing the process of upgradation, there was kernel panic error : unable to mount vfs root fs on unknown block (0,0). I followed this :
[12:52] <cuttiepie> https://askubuntu.com/questions/41930/kernel-panic-not-syncing-vfs-unable-to-mount-root-fs-on-unknown-block0-0 to solve it but after that there is just one underscore that appears on screen .
[12:53] <cuttiepie> help
[12:53] <Maik> maybe your hdd is corrupted due the poweroutage
[12:57] <VMGuy23[m]> This is why I have a laptop
[13:01] <BluesKaj> VMGuy23[m], that comment doesn't help
[13:02] <VMGuy23[m]> Yeah true
[13:04] <cuttiepie> my hdd is fine I think
[13:04] <cuttiepie> I can boot to advanced options for my given kernel
[13:05] <cuttiepie> and also to root commandline from that and can also access fs
[13:06] <cuttiepie> I need someone to help me either reinstall from there or recover from there .
[13:06] <EriC^^> cuttiepie: in advanced > recovery you can boot to a menu and run fsck on the fs, and also run a dpkg/apt consistency check
[13:11] <cuttiepie> for fsck, have to unmount root part but 'umount /dev/sda6' would say target is busy
[13:11] <cuttiepie> sda6 is /
[13:11] <EriC^^> cuttiepie: you have to run fsck first before you run any other menu options, as they can mount the fs and you want it still read-only
[13:16] <cuttiepie> ok ran fsck first. Says continuing will remount your / filesystem in r/w mode and other filesystem in fstab as well
[13:17] <cuttiepie> And continuing from there would induce e2fsck error : /dev/sda6 is mounted
[13:19] <EriC^^> odd, ok, try to run the dpkg/apt integrity check
[13:23] <cuttiepie> ok ran successful : set up of around 10 packages
[13:23] <DJones>  /w 20
[13:26] <cuttiepie> but i gave no errors so probably no broken packages
[13:26] <cuttiepie> *It
[13:28] <EriC^^> nice, try rebooting
[13:35] <cuttiepie> shows ' /dev/sda6 : clean xxx/xxx files xxxx/xxxx blocks' and then blinking cursor
[13:52] <Intelo> Hi
[13:53] <Maik> hi Intelo
[13:54] <Intelo> I want to install windows on drive W, ubuntu on drive U and make /home of ubuntu on drive H. I want to encrypt full disk of H. and also full dish of H. Is this doable?
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> !home
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> !partitioning
[13:59] <oxek> How can I get a newer version of flatpak in ubuntu 18.04?
[13:59] <leftyfb> Intelo: linux does not recognize "drive U" or "drive W". Please read the link above about partitioning.
[14:00] <leftyfb> !flatpack | oxek
[14:00] <oxek> !flatpak
[14:00] <leftyfb> oxek: flatpack isn't supported here. Feel free to visit flatpack.org for support
[14:03] <zamba> is qemu and kvm the same?
[14:03] <Liowenex> No
[14:03] <zamba> or.. rather.. do they use the same kind of virtualization technique.. one in kernel and one in user space?
[14:03] <zamba> and is it easy to "convert" between them?
[14:04] <leftyfb> zamba: https://www.packetflow.co.uk/what-is-the-difference-between-qemu-and-kvm/
[14:04] <zamba> for instance.. if i start out with qemu and then "migrate" to kvm once i have scheduled downtime to turn it on in the bios settings?
[14:05] <zamba> kvm-ok says i have /dev/kvm and that i can use KVM acceleration
[14:06] <zamba> if i do virsh version it says: Running hypervisor: QEMU 2.11.1
[14:06] <zamba> does this mean that it can run better if i actually use kvm directly?
[14:07] <zamba> someone suggested typing ps xa | grep "[b]in/kvm", but that returns nothing
[14:07] <leftyfb> zamba: what version of ubuntu?
[14:08] <zamba> 18.04.3
[14:09] <leftyfb> zamba: you know you are behind in updates right?
[14:09] <zamba> https://dpaste.org/afrS
[14:10] <zamba> yeah, upgrading it as we speak
[14:10] <zamba> not the kernel, though.. have to schedule a reboot for that
[14:11] <zamba> but are these virtual machines running in user or kernel space?
[14:12] <leftyfb> zamba: did you read the article I gave you?
[14:13] <leftyfb> zamba: to answer your question, I think you can convert qemu vm's to kvm. https://rtcamp.com/tutorials/kvm/convert-qcow2-to-raw-format/   Not sure if more is needed. You'll have to research.
[14:15] <cuttiepie> would you look at this : https://askubuntu.com/questions/297080/ubuntu-open-to-black-screen-with-blinking-underscore-character-after-release-upg
[14:17] <chris64> Hi everyone. I am looking into ebpf based tracing at the moment and noticed that CONFIG_KPROBE_EVENTS and CONFIG_UPROBE_EVENTS are not enabled. As far as I understood these are compile time constants, and as such cannot be enabled as boot parameters. Do you know if Ubuntu provides another pre-build kernel with them enabled? Or is there likely another reason?
[14:18] <Intelo> lotuspsychje:  I completely know what is home. I am talking about setting up home at the time of installation of ubuntu.  leftyfb I know there is no drive U/H/W. I just named those to give examples.
[14:19] <cuttiepie> Would anybody dare to seriously look at my problem ?
[14:19] <cuttiepie> or not
[14:29] <ledeni> cuttiepie: if you have livedvd iso on usb stick boot up live chroot your system back up your files that is best option for you
[14:32] <Intelo> I want to install windows on drive W, ubuntu on drive U and make /home of ubuntu on drive H. I want to encrypt full disk of H. and also full dish of H.  H/W/U are just imaginary names. I  have been using linux since years. I just want to know if this is possible?
[14:33] <EriC^^> full dish of H?
[14:37] <chris64> Intelo: yes, you should be able to use W for windows only and the two others U and H for Ubuntu
[14:37] <chris64> Intelo: just decide where the boot manager should reside
[15:00] <Intelo> EriC^^: Correct. H will but full disk for /home
[15:03] <Intelo> chris64: understood. But I have some concerns. If /home is on drive H and ubuntu is on U, a) when ubuntu is booted, how it will find its home (which itself is encrypted as full drive)? b) how to encrypt the /home in the first place? The ubuntu setup tells about encrypting / drive fulldisk (I have done it)
[15:05] <Intelo> leftyfb:  lotuspsychje  EriC^^  FYI ^
[15:09] <BluesKaj> cuttiepie, could be nomodeset
[15:10] <chris64> Intelo: The drives and their mapping is configured in /etc/fstab as far as I know
[15:10] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset | cuttiepie
[15:10] <chris64> Intelo: and the boot loader, for example grub, is configured to boot linux from U (or more specific from a partition on U)
[15:16] <chris64> Intelo: I guess you cannot do much wrong if you do the Ubuntu setup _while_ the Windows disk is disconnected
[15:16] <chris64> Intelo: then afterwards reconnect the Windows disk and let grub2 discover Windows so that it's added to the boot menu
[15:17] <kriss332> I have a .deb package (from a vendor) which worked on my older linux. But now I installed mint 20 . The package gets installed but doesn't work. Is there a backward compatibility method to install it ?
[15:18] <kostkon> !mint
[15:18] <kriss332> ok , thanks ubottu
[15:42] <Intelo> chris64: even if windows disk is connected, things will go same and ubuntu grub will discover things while isntalling ubuntu. Maybe my major concern is a)b) above
[15:45] <chris64> Intelo: ok
[16:24] <Peanut> Hi, does anyone have experiencing with adding a small movie to a LaTeX Beamer presentation? The resulting pdf file crashes Okular with the message 'ase read the channel topic. This channel is logged at irclogs.ubuntu
[16:24] <Peanut> Oops, cut&paste error!
[16:24] <Peanut> Hi, does anyone have experiencing with adding a small movie to a LaTeX Beamer presentation? The resulting pdf file crashes Okular with the message 'vdpau_avcodec generic error: Xlib is required for VDPAU'
[16:48] <Intelo> chris64: so do you know about a,b?
[17:03] <chris64> Intelo: what is a and b again? From my experience configuring full disk encryption on two drives is no problem with graphical installers of Ubuntu. And you said yourself that the presence of a Windows disk does not complicate the setup at all
[17:04] <chris64> Intelo: I guess you know that step in the setup where it asks you which drives you want to format and which path they're supposed to be mounted on
[17:06] <chris64> Intelo: but I only did that half a dozen times, so maybe I don't know enough about special configurations. Maybe it's indeed wise to ask a few hours later again, when there's maybe more activity due to timezones or tomorrow during weekday
[17:10] <Intelo> ok chris64 what i was thinking that if I choose 'full disk encryption' and use /home mount path to some other disk. will it encrypt both disks?
[17:11] <chris64> Intelo: I won't if you don't select full disk encryption for the other disk as well
[17:12] <Intelo> I see
[17:12] <chris64> Intelo: did you work with LVM2 in the past?
[17:13] <chris64> Intelo: but I think that LUKS-based full disk encryption should be fine with opening two encrypted disks at boot time
[17:16] <RoseBus> for outgoing smtp connection i should not need to allow 465/tcp right?
[17:16] <RoseBus> only for incoming
[17:18] <tomreyn> chris64: about your kernel configuration question, head straight over to #ubuntu-kernel, re-ask it there, and bring much patience along. from whati can tell, all pre-built kernel images for the same release and arch use the same configurations, but i'm not 100% sure there. i imagine -oem kernels *may* differ a little (where needed to provide fuinctionality needed by oem patches).
[17:18] <tomreyn> with multiple luks containers needed to boot, you'll just get multiple passphrase prompts (if you're using passphrases) by default. they may look differently, depending on when prompting occurs, which dpeends on the file systems they contain.
[17:19] <tomreyn> personally, i'd be (positively) surprised if ubiquity could setup more than a single disk with luks over lvm at install time. but what i learnt about complex installation scenarios is: don't do them, if you don't strictly have to. i.e. anything you can do post install, do it then.
[17:19] <tomreyn> this may not apply to subiquity (server installer) anymore, it's actually capable of more complex scripted setups nowadays.
[17:19] <tomreyn> and from what i read the other day, ubiquity is going to be replaced sooner or later.
[17:22] <Intelo> chris64: I either encrypted full disk or used luks manual password but I don't know how both will be unencrypted at boot time
[17:24] <tomreyn> RoseBus: thats right. 465 is (most common use case) an smtp users' email client authenticating against their isp to send mail, and doing so over an SSL encrypted transport, without STARTTLS (so this is the old SSL-only port approach)
[18:31] <supremekai> Hello guys, can I clean the swap memory file?
[18:32] <supremekai> It's getting bigger, what will happen if I do so?
[18:32] <MikeRL> Anyone know the difference between the Ubuntu daily ISOs vs the canary ISOs? I know what the daily ones are.
[18:54] <Maik> supremekai: sudo swapoff -a and then sudo swapon -a
[18:55] <Maik> MikeRL: been wondering about that too, didn't find or get an answer anywhere
[19:01] <MikeRL> Maik, If I had to guess it's possibly less stable. There is an ubuntu canary ppa on Launchpad that seems to be maintained.
[19:01] <MikeRL> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/canary-image
[19:05] <Maik> MikeRL: doesn't seem to be maintained to me since 2020
[19:20] <dtux> I have mounted an NFS share on /foo successfully, but the directory is empty on the client side (even after unmounting and remounting)... anyone know how to debug this?
[19:22] <pecorade> dtux, check the permission list of the folder.
[19:27] <dtux> the fs perms look fine on the server side afaict
[19:27] <dtux> (this has worked before, not sure what changed)
[19:28] <where_> can we include Solus into ubuntus grub-update?
[19:28] <where_> and .cfg
[19:29] <tomreyn> dtux: you will need to inspect system logs on server and client. and for more help, discuss how the export is configured, whats running on server and client, which ubuntu version you're using, which mount options you are using.
[19:30] <tomreyn> where_: you can configure ubuntu's grub to add additional fixed or templated menu targets
[19:31] <tomreyn> read /etc/grub.d/README , see /etc/grub.d/*_custom for potential examples
[19:32] <where_> I know, I tried
[19:32] <tomreyn> thats for templated additions
[19:32] <tomreyn> for fixed ones, you can use /boot/grub/custom.cfg
[19:34] <where_> is root=UUID and so on for the booted system root or the kernel partition?
[19:37] <tomreyn> root= points ot the next accessible layer (from grubs' perspective) towards the /boot file system
[19:38] <tomreyn> if you have a directly accessible /boot file system, point ot that. if you have no separate /boot but /boot is part of / then point to that instead
[19:40] <EriC^^> isnt root for the main fs, not the boot partition?
[19:41] <EriC^^> where_: root=UUID in the kernel line is for the root fs
[19:41] <EriC^^> aka "/"
[19:42] <where_> ok
[19:42] <EriC^^> do you have os-prober installed?
[19:43] <where_> yes
[19:43] <EriC^^> ok
[19:44] <where_> it is detected, but not put into the grub.cfg
[19:47] <EriC^^> where_: if you're using uefi this might help, https://www.linux.org/threads/solus-3-installs-fine-shows-in-update-grub-but-not-on-grub-menu.16114/
[19:49] <tomreyn> EriC^^: on this system i checked, the main 'Ubuntu' menu entry has "set root='mduuid/SOME-MD-UUID-HERE', then the IF statement for feature_platform_search_hint=y, based on which it then re-sets root= using a "search" (grub) command, pointing it to the actual file system with an additional hint on the mduuid. in the "linux" line, it does indeed pass root= pointing to the root file system uuid, though. so i guess you'Re right.
[19:54] <EriC^^> i see tomreyn, thanks
[20:10] <gladoscc> Hi, I have an ubuntu server. I did a reboot (nothing else) and I am unable to boot with the latest kernel. I get a kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs.
[20:10] <gladoscc> This happens with the latest kernel installed, 5.4.0-70-generic
[20:10] <gladoscc> I am able to boot using 5.4.0-67-generic.
[20:11] <gladoscc> How can I fix my system?
[20:12] <VMGuy23> In GRUB, select More options for Ubuntu and select an older kernel. You can then use your system from there.
[20:12] <gladoscc> VMGuy23: Thanks, yes, I can use my system from there. But how can I fix it so I can use the latest kernel?
[20:13] <leftyfb> gladoscc: what version of ubuntu?
[20:13] <jeremy31> gladoscc: You should think about filing a bug report
[20:13] <VMGuy23> I don't know. Check for an update that might fix the issue and install it.
[20:13] <gladoscc> ubuntu 20.04.01 LTS.
[20:13] <leftyfb> jeremy31: they're probably just missing the kernel modules for something important
[20:13] <gladoscc> i have a mdadm RAID array, I am probably missing the modules for that.
[20:13] <gladoscc> however, i did NOT update ubuntu?
[20:14] <gladoscc> I didn't update anything.
[20:14] <gladoscc> I just tried to reboot.
[20:14] <leftyfb> gladoscc: bot to your previous kernel and install linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04
[20:14] <paolop> hello. plz help me! Every time I have to configure simoultanous output from two audio devices is a PITA. I installed paprefs and enabled "add virtual output device for simoultaneous output on all local sound cards". Then I set "simoultaneous output" in sound preferences. But I can't hear anything.
[20:14] <gladoscc> leftyfb: thank you, will try.
[20:15] <jeremy31> gladoscc: can you post URL for>  dpkg -l | grep  5.4.0-70-generic | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:15] <gladoscc> jeremy31: https://termbin.com/5xa5
[20:15] <leftyfb> ok, guess that theory is out the window :)
[20:16] <leftyfb> but maybe the 5.8 kernel might fix it
[20:16] <jeremy31> gladoscc: That seems correct
[20:16] <ptah> what is the connection with ipv6 ipv4 and ethernet wired network vs wifi ?
[20:16] <ptah> ipv6 is better with wifi?
[20:17] <ptah> and ipv4 with ethernet wired?
[20:17] <jeremy31> ptah: I think works the same for both
[20:17] <gladoscc> I only have 51MB free in my /boot -- let's hope that's enough space to install
[20:17] <gladoscc> (already purged all kernels but the latest and what I am recovering with).
[20:17] <ptah> jeremy31 ok
[20:17] <jeremy31> gladoscc: File a bug report if you can on  5.4.0-70-generic
[20:17] <gladoscc> cannot install the latest
[20:17] <gladoscc> Error 24 : Write error : cannot write compressed block
[20:17] <gladoscc> E: mkinitramfs failure cpio 141 lz4 -9 -l 24
[20:17] <gladoscc> update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-5.8.0-48-generic with 1.
[20:18] <gladoscc> is this a hardware error? could my RAID array be having issues?
[20:18] <leftyfb> gladoscc: disk space
[20:18] <leftyfb> gladoscc: you either have other packages still left to be removed or you have WAY too small of a /boot partition
[20:18] <gladoscc> my boot partition is 269M
[20:18] <gladoscc> . /dev/md0p1      269M  213M   37M  86% /boot
[20:19] <leftyfb> that's pretty small but should be enough with a well maintained system
[20:19] <gladoscc> can I remove 70? the one that won't boot?
[20:19] <gladoscc> I am recovering in 67.
[20:19] <leftyfb> gladoscc: ls -l /boot/ | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:20] <gladoscc> https://termbin.com/cxc8
[20:20] <jeremy31> The initrd for the kernel takes up more space in /boot than you have left
[20:20] <leftyfb> gladoscc: try removing 70
[20:20] <leftyfb> purging*
[20:21] <gladoscc> cool, purged
[20:21] <gladoscc> do I need to clean up the 5.8?
[20:21] <gladoscc> that seems partially installed?
[20:21] <gladoscc> or just another attempt at 'apt install linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04' ?
[20:21] <leftyfb> gladoscc: sudo apt install --reinstall linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04
[20:23] <gladoscc> cool, that worked
[20:23] <gladoscc> initrd.img, vmlinuz all pointing to 5.8.0-48
[20:23] <gladoscc> reboot?
[20:24] <leftyfb> gladoscc: yep
[20:26] <gladoscc> fixed. thank you very much leftyfb and jeremy31.
[20:26] <gladoscc> have to say, I wonder how this happened
[20:26] <gladoscc> i did NOT do a distro upgrade or package upgrade or anything like that
[20:26] <leftyfb> gladoscc: possible bug with the 5.4.0-70 kernel. If you have the time to do some forensics and to revert to the broken kernel, you should file a bug
[20:28] <gladoscc> happy to dig into it and file a bug report, any pointers for what forensics would be helpful?
[20:28] <leftyfb> !bug | gladoscc
[20:28] <leftyfb> gladoscc: mainly, getting to a point where you can get both kernels installed and follow the above
[20:30] <gladoscc> installed, not necessarily running right?
[20:30] <gladoscc> cuz I can only run the 5.8 kernel, i don't think there is anything I can do in 5.4.0-70
[20:31] <leftyfb> gladoscc: well, obviously the 5.8 kernel running, but preferably with the 5.4.0-70 not working properly so you can grab data and file the bug
[20:31] <leftyfb> gladoscc: just make sure you can reproduce the issue before filing the bug
[20:32] <jeremy31> It might be a waste of time if the error occurs too early and no relevant info can be saved to disk
[20:32] <gladoscc> i reliably cannot boot using 5.4.0-70.   I do not know what conditions caused me to get into this state, so I don't know how to reproduce the "cause".
[20:33] <leftyfb> jeremy31: wouldn't just filing a bug against the package itself with a small writeup be beneficial?
[20:33] <jeremy31> leftyfb: It could be
[20:33] <gladoscc> pretty weird cause I'm using RAID0 on enterprise HDDs with ECC memory, so it's unlikely that it's a random bitflip
[20:33] <gladoscc> s/HDDs/SSDs
[20:35] <jeremy31> gladoscc: Include all the hardware info you can
[20:43] <gladoscc> ok yep, filed a bug report with all the info I know https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1923376
[20:44] <gladoscc> i'll do further troubleshooting if anyone requests it in the ticket, but at least, maybe it helps the next person who encounters this issue.
[20:44] <jeremy31> gladoscc: see if https://askubuntu.com/a/1218004 helps any
[20:45] <jeremy31> Might have to rebuild the initramfs for 5.4.0-70 kernel if it is still there
[20:46] <jeremy31> sudo update-initramfs -u -k 5.4.0-70-generic
[20:46] <gladoscc> yep im gonna get some sleep first, tomorrow ill reinstall 70
[20:46] <gladoscc> and see if that fixes it
[20:46] <gladoscc> thanks again
[21:04] <tomreyn> jeremy31: i'm wondering whether the above is an instance of grub-embedded (classic) bios booting (which was never supported/recommended anyways) no longer working. also, user space was outadted on this system, it should have reported 20.04.2, not 20.04.1.
[21:08] <jeremy31> tomreyn: anything is possible
[21:24] <chris64> Intelo: mh, I see. When searching the web I found this QA post and answers: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/392284/using-a-single-passphrase-to-unlock-multiple-encrypted-disks-at-boot Maybe the decrypt_keyctl tool mentioned there can help. I don't know whether the situation changed since 2017
[21:24] <chris64> Intelo: systemd seems to support unlocking multiple drives with the same passphrase: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/535161/22596
[21:26] <wiscii> hi, i seem to have gotten into a stale-mate position with dpkg
[21:26] <chris64> Intelo: I'm sorry that I cannot help more at the moment. Please try to ask the question again at a later time, to find someone else with more knowledge. I've to leave now. Good luck!
[21:27] <wiscii> i was trying to install codeblocks but i had a dep which was not met now i have two packages which depend on each other which i can't remove
[21:28] <wiscii> codeblocks-wxcontrib-dev depends on codeblocks-wxcontrib-headers (= 20.03); however:
[21:28] <wiscii>   Package codeblocks-wxcontrib-headers is to be removed.
[21:28] <wiscii> apt does not want to resolve it either
[21:30] <wiscii> Debian 'dpkg' package management program version 1.19.7 (amd64).
[21:32] <Bashing-om> !info codeblocks-wxcontrib-dev focal | wiscii
[21:33] <wiscii> erm .. i think i know what you mean .. but i'm still stuck
[21:33] <Bashing-om> wiscii:^^  As apt is unaware of the package - begs the question of where you got it and then is that not a problem for the maintainer to address ?
[21:34] <wiscii> i got it from codeblocks website
[21:35] <Bashing-om> wiscii: I do suggest that you open a dialog with codeblocks to find the root of the issue.
[21:38] <wiscii> cheerz
[21:40] <wiscii> luckily i can rtm
[21:41] <johnfg> Hi folks.
[21:41] <Bashing-om> wiscii: :D - reading is good
[21:42] <johnfg> I've got tomboy-ng .27 QT5 installed.  It shows this from an apt search:
[21:43] <johnfg> tomboy-ng/now 0.27 amd64 [installed,local]
[21:43] <johnfg> I'd like to install v. 32, but it's not available for an apt update.
[21:44] <johnfg> Does the local signify that I installed it from a download?
[21:45] <Bashing-om> johnfg: Not a focal package (tomboy-ng) - what shows ' apt policy tomboy-ng ' for the origination ?
[21:46] <johnfg> It's not snap I guess, as snap find tomboy-ng returns nothing.
[21:46] <johnfg> Bashing-om: I'll look.
[21:47] <johnfg> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wCFdxrfbnv/
[21:53] <Bashing-om> johnfg: Yuk - seems too that 'dpkg' is not tracking the package - must be a thrid party fetch. Might see if there are souces in /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ files.
[21:53] <Bashing-om> sources*
[21:54] <johnfg> I'll do that too.
[21:56] <johnfg> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/36sGZqTdJ3/ I got the update, and I've got this now.  thanks for helping me think through it.
[21:58] <ryan_foo> hi all. does anyone know what the focal-updates apt repos are?
[21:58] <Bashing-om> johnfg: \o/
[21:59] <Bashing-om> ryan_foo: many here relate with the repo - what is the real question ?
[21:59] <ryan_foo> ok. good point..
[22:00] <ryan_foo> $ cat /etc/issue
[22:00] <ryan_foo> Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS \n \l
[22:00] <ryan_foo> $sudo apt-get install -y zlib1g-dev
[22:00] <ryan_foo> Reading package lists... Done
[22:00] <ryan_foo> Building dependency tree
[22:00] <ryan_foo> Reading state information... Done
[22:00] <Bashing-om> !paste | ryan_foo
[22:01] <Bashing-om> ryan_foo: ^^ when you get UN-quieted :D
[22:01] <ryan_foo> :)
[22:01] <ryan_foo> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tT4ZGG7H4g/
[22:01] <ryan_foo> So as you see Im trying to install zlib1g-dev.
[22:02] <ryan_foo> but apt says "sorry i have 1:1.2.11.dfsg-2ubuntu1.2 installed and you need  same1.1"
[22:03] <Bashing-om> ryan_foo: "Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS" indicates the saystem is way out of date. what results ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' ?
[22:03] <Bashing-om> system*
[22:04] <ryan_foo> apt update looks fine. let me try full-upgrade
[22:05] <Bashing-om> ryan_foo: "sysop@2004x-c:~$ lsb_release -a >> Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS " .
[22:08] <ryan_foo> im not sure a full upgrade is going to update my sources.list !
[22:09] <Bashing-om> ryan_foo: ?? - update reads the list and does not affect said list .
[22:10] <ryan_foo> If you look at this link https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/zlib1g-dev, the version I want to pick up is in focal-updates.
[22:10] <Bashing-om> !full-upgrade | ryan_foo
[22:10] <leftyfb> ryan_foo: focal-updates should be enabled by default
[22:11] <leftyfb> ryan_foo: 1:1.2.11.dfsg-2ubuntu1.2 is the latest version available in the ubuntu 20.04 repos
[22:11] <ryan_foo> ah its commented out .
[22:11] <leftyfb> ryan_foo: what is your actual issue?
[22:12] <ryan_foo> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tT4ZGG7H4g/
[22:12] <tomreyn> your actual issue seems to be that you chose to disable the focal-updates repository. which you should not.
[22:12] <leftyfb> ryan_foo: did you run the full-upgrade?
[22:15] <ryan_foo> hmm. uncommented focal-update and did a update + full-upgrade. still broken...
[22:15] <leftyfb> ryan_foo: sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade  # run this first
[22:16] <ryan_foo> done
[22:16] <leftyfb> ryan_foo: apt-cache policy zlib1g-dev | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:18] <leftyfb> ryan_foo: also: lsb_release -d | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:18] <tomreyn> grep -hEv '^([ ]*#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:19] <leftyfb> tomreyn: ooo, that's a nice one
[22:19] <tomreyn> :) i'm not sure it actually catches everything, but i hope it does
[22:21] <leftyfb> ryan_foo: ?
[22:48] <ryan_foo> ok, so I uncommented out the focal-updates repos in the apt/sources.list , did the update + full-upgrade and then my package installed. thanks for your assistance all!
[22:50] <ryan_foo> Here are the repos .. in case it helps anyone https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TjsYt5hRvb/
[23:18] <Intelo> chrisml: thanks, it was greate
[23:59] <gnUser> Does anyone know how to enable thumb detection/rejection on Ubuntu 20.04?


[00:31] <paultag> Howdy, folks. It seems as though one of my feeds is broken (perhaps a bigger issue then just me) - http://feeds.launchpad.net/~paultag/revisions.atom
[00:31] <paultag> It's hanging up a script that I have, just wondering if I should disable it or let it gel
[00:31] <paultag> this issue appears recent, within the last few days
[00:41] <wgrant> paultag: It looks fine to me.
[00:41] <wgrant> LP doesn't seem to know about any revs from you in the last month.
[00:41] <wgrant> Which is the limit of revisions feeds by default.
[00:41] <paultag> wgrant: Oh, it's only the last month.
[00:41] <paultag> Interesting
[08:54] <danhg> Morning
[09:08] <mrevell> What's up?
[09:34] <jfi> Hello, is there actually some issue with PPA source package upload? I get a "Changes file must be signed with a valid GPG signature: Verification failed 3 times: ['General error', 'General error', 'General error'] : Permission denied.
[09:34] <jfi> Note: This error might indicate a problem with your passive_ftp setting.". My settings have not changed and worked for months
[09:35] <bigjools> jfi: ignore, it's a server side bug
[09:35] <bigjools> upload is ok
[09:35] <jfi> bigjools, ok, thanks
[13:21] <soren> I'm confused about bug 894442.
[13:21] <soren> There's a comment from lpqabot saying it's fixed in stable r14429.
[13:22] <soren> The footer on bugs.launchpad.net says it's at r14435.
[13:22] <soren> ...but the bug listings I see don't match the screenshot huw attached to demonstrate the change.
[13:23] <soren> Oh, If I remove "bug age" it does.
[13:23] <soren> Sorry.
[13:51] <brendand> exactly how do you specify to bzr to merge changes only to particular files?
[13:59] <brendand> i got it now
[14:09] <exarkun> brendand: care to share?
[14:10] <brendand> bzr merge /path/to/file
[14:10] <brendand> the trick is the file has to be local
[14:11] <brendand> bzr branch lp:myproject
[14:11] <brendand> bzr branch lp:~me/myproject/thebranch
[14:12] <brendand> cd myproject
[14:12] <brendand> bzr merge ../thebranch/thedir/thefile
[14:13] <hrw> hi
[14:13] <hrw> https://code.launchpad.net/~linaro-maintainers/+archive/staging-overlay/+build/2976062 - can someone tell me how can I check why it failed?
[14:19] <el2ro> Hi, does anyone have some good links to share to some "howto backport packages using launchpad ppa"? (I am new to this consept and I was playing around with the toolset, but failed to build stuff with backportpackage to depency problems.. how to continue from there)
[14:21] <bigjools> hrw: I think you are the victim of a bug.  Clicking on the recipe build link shows it worked.
[14:21] <bigjools> el2ro: you might want to visit #ubuntu-motu
[14:22] <el2ro> bigjools: what is that?
[14:22] <bigjools> another irc channel
[14:23] <hrw> bigjools: https://code.launchpad.net/~linaro-pkg/+recipe/gcc-linaro-native-daily shows builds from 2011-12-01 as failed wthout any explanation. but if this is a known bug then I will add note to my notes and check some week(s) later does it happen again
[14:24] <bigjools> hrw: I think it's a manifestation of bug 717969
[14:24] <kenvandine> can someone please kill a daily build that has been stuck for a couple weeks?
[14:24] <bigjools> kenvandine: I can
[14:24] <kenvandine> https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/+archive/gwibber/+recipebuild/107067
[14:24] <kenvandine> bigjools, thx!
[14:24] <bigjools> kenvandine: done
[14:24] <kenvandine> awesome, thx!
[14:24] <hrw> bigjools: thx
[14:26] <bigjools> stgraber: can you point me at the branch that holds edit_acl.py?
[14:27] <stgraber> bigjools: lp:~ubuntu-archive/ubuntu-archive-tools/trunk/
[14:27] <bigjools> thanks
[14:28] <Ursinha> what happened to bug 900000?
[14:29] <allenap> mrevell: Fwiw, you can (and probably should) triage bugs like https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/899761 when you come across them.
[14:29] <mrevell> fair enough allenap
[14:29] <allenap> mrevell: Also, do you reckon that's a High or a Low?
[14:30] <allenap> mrevell: Ta :)
[14:31] <mrevell> allenap, Low :)
[14:35] <hrw> 2/wk
[15:11] <stgraber> bigjools: just wondering, any change you can fix all the packagesets? utouch is now fixed which is great but I just got told at least edubuntu and kernel have the same issue, and I'm starting to suspect they all do :)
[15:11] <stgraber> Laney: ^
[15:11] <bigjools> stgraber: urgh
[15:11] <Laney> you can see at e.g. http://people.canonical.com/~stgraber/package_sets/precise/cli-mono
[15:12] <stgraber> bigjools: based on what cjwatson told me, it could have been an issue when they first got initialized for precise, some kind of copy from oneiric that may have gone wrong :)
[15:12] <bigjools> yeah that's what I was thinking
[15:17] <bigjools> ok, I'll put it on my queue
[15:29] <bigjools> Laney: regarding bug 827555, how essential is it that we store the person sponsoring?  I've done the sponsored person as spph.creator.
[15:30] <Laney> bigjools: rather important. Can you make a new field called signer?
[15:30] <bigjools> Laney: is it stored for syncs right now?
[15:30] <bigjools> :)
[15:30] <Laney> no
[15:30] <Laney> this would be a win
[15:30] <Laney> as this process is being improved …
[15:31] <tumbleweed> it was, at least, recorded in -changes mail for archive-admin syncs
[15:32] <Laney> approver was?
[15:32] <tumbleweed> oh, right, wasn't
[15:32]  * tumbleweed hasn't slept enough again
[15:49] <bigjools> Laney, tumbleweed: I won't be able to make the change that records the sponsor for a while, do you want me to go ahead and release the changes done so far or do you want to wait?  The changes so far allow you to specify a sponsor on the API.  I've not made changes on the web UI yet.
[15:51] <Laney> bigjools: yes, please release it — having this is already a vast improvement :-)
[15:51] <bigjools> I figured you were heavy API users :)
[15:51] <Laney> tumbleweed wrote a sponsorship checker tool
[15:51] <Laney> it'll mean that this cannot know about sponsored syncs
[15:56] <tumbleweed> bigjools: yeah, we hit the API a bit. I'd be amused to see where I sit on the loader-board right now (been crawling Ubuntu's upload history) :P
[15:56]  * tumbleweed would also rather see this released as is. If it's recording the data, that's a good start
[15:58] <Laney> it is also sometimes useful to know who sponsored something for other reasons (i.e. naming and shaming :P)
[15:58] <bigjools> it overrides SPPH.creator and From: on announcements
[15:58] <tumbleweed> yes it does form part of Ubuntu's audit trail
[15:58] <Laney> both to the sponsoree?
[15:59] <Laney> (that sounds right)
[15:59] <bigjools> the sponsored person, yeah
[16:01] <Laney> great
[16:07] <Laney> as long as people use the option to syncpackage to close the bug when they sponsor a sync then we shouldn't regress in terms of audit trail
[16:07] <Laney> well, assuming that out of band syncs don't become more common (which they probably will)
[17:10] <allenap> Any series/milestone experts in here? Please can you help answer https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/180693?
[19:19] <hexmode> WHY THIS NO BUILD? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/86706162/buildlog.txt.gz
[20:07] <audifahrer> Hi
[20:08] <audifahrer> could someone tell me why my receipe (https://code.launchpad.net/~tux-style/+recipe/eflxx-daily) doesn't build my binaries in the deb as expected? I only get the copyright in the deb file. I don't understand it.
[20:09] <YokoZar> Are there instructions for getting apt to work with private PPAs?
[20:13] <stgraber> YokoZar: I don't think you need to do much weirdness
[20:13] <stgraber> YokoZar: deb https://<LP<EMAIL_ADDRESS>should work
[20:13] <YokoZar> stgraber: ahh, ok, fair nuff
[20:14] <stgraber> YokoZar: at least it does here for the few I have
[20:14]  * YokoZar considers filing a LP bug about the instructions that appear in a private PPA page saying that rather than the default text...
[20:14] <lifeless> there is one I believe
[20:14] <lifeless> you can me-too it
[20:15] <Ampelbein> audifahrer: I'd suspect that you need to add something like 'run bootstrap'  in the recipe.
[20:17] <Ampelbein> audifahrer: (bootstrap being the file used by elfxx to produce configure et al)
[20:17] <YokoZar> stgraber: oh I see, I need to go to my profile page and copy-paste that rather than the PPA page
[20:20] <YokoZar> lifeless: I suppose it's this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/458360  which is 2 years old (!)
[20:21] <lifeless> YokoZar: I'm not sure what the ! is for - we get many more bugs in than we can keep up with
[20:21] <lifeless> YokoZar: we -love- patches
[21:02] <audifahrer> Ampelbein: yes, but there's also an autogen.sh script that calls bootstrap. I don't know what magic is behind bzr-builder. What does it call automagic and what not? Does it call make dist and build from there?
[21:08] <jelmer> audifahrer: bzr-builder only calls the "clean" target from debian/rules after it's built the tree
[21:08] <jelmer> audifahrer: the run command is disabled on Launchpad
[21:13] <audifahrer> ah, I looked in other debian structure I see always this:
[21:13] <audifahrer> include /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/autotools.mk
[21:13] <audifahrer> include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk
[21:14] <audifahrer> does this enable ./autogen.sh stuff automatic?
[21:16] <jelmer> audifahrer: IIRC it just enables the running of ./configure, not autogen.sh
[21:16] <jelmer> audifahrer: that bit is also only run during the build of the binary package, not when the source package is built (from the recipe)
[21:21] <audifahrer> jelmer: could you show me a correct rules file for building from SVN (./autogen.sh; make,...)?
[21:21] <jelmer> audifahrer: what you just posted and /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/autoreconf.mk
[21:22] <jelmer> audifahrer: you'll need a build-dependency on dh-autoreconf as well
[21:37] <george_e> Can I request that a PPA be moved from my LP account to a team account?
[21:44] <YokoZar> I need disk space increased for a private PPA...should I post a _public_ question about it?
[22:00] <audifahrer> debian/rules:4: /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/autotools.mk: No such file or directory
[22:00] <audifahrer> debian/rules:5: /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk: No such file or directory
[22:00] <audifahrer> make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk'.  Stop.
[22:01] <audifahrer> :-(
[22:01] <audifahrer> this is what launchpad said
[22:03] <jelmer> audifahrer: you will need to have cdbs as a build dependency too, but that's implied for those lines
[22:04] <jelmer> audifahrer: it's usually a good idea to build the package locally first
[22:05] <audifahrer> jelmer: doesn't work with ubuntu 10.04 as described in launchpad help :-(
[22:05] <jelmer> audifahrer: how do you mean?
[22:05] <audifahrer> bzr-builder and python is to old. :-(
[22:05] <audifahrer> I mean local testing
[22:05] <jelmer> audifahrer: there are two steps involved here
[22:06] <jelmer> audifahrer: building a source package from a recipe and some branches - that's what's documented on the launchpad help page
[22:06] <jelmer> audifahrer: but you can test the source package and what contents it should have, even in 10.04
[22:06] <jelmer> audifahrer: any ubuntu packaging guide should help you create a proper source package. once you have that, it should be a lot easier to create a recipe that generates source packages.
[22:08] <audifahrer> jelmer: I'm sure it build localy and I had no problems with that missing cdbs.
[22:08] <audifahrer> for sure I tried this
[22:08] <jelmer> audifahrer: did you build in a chroot? You might just have cdbs installed on your system already, without the package having an explicit dependency on it.
[22:09] <audifahrer> jelmer: ah, ok. I didn't build in chroot. Thats maybe the reason!
[22:39] <dr3mro> hello , I am trying to create a ppa for daily build of a project i am not the owner of it hosted on google code but it fails when i enter the repository address in launchpad https://code.google.com/p/plowshare
[22:40] <dr3mro> is this address ok ? when i try git clone https://code.google.com/p/plowshare on my pc it works but when i enter this url on launchpad hosting it fails while import
[22:45] <mwhudson> dr3mro: got a link to the import?
[22:45] <dr3mro> https://code.google.com/p/plowshare
[22:46] <dr3mro> mwhudson, https://code.google.com/p/plowshare
[22:47] <mwhudson> dr3mro: on launchpad
[22:47] <mwhudson> you pasted _that_ link twice already :)
[22:47] <dr3mro> lp:plowshare
[22:48] <dr3mro> mwhudson, https://code.launchpad.net/~dr3mro/plowshare/plowshare-trunk
[22:48] <dr3mro> mwhudson, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/86721936/dr3mro-plowshare-plowshare-trunk.log
[22:49] <mwhudson> huh, that's strange
[22:49] <mwhudson> jelmer: around?
[22:49] <dr3mro> mwhudson, that was import log
[22:49] <mwhudson> dr3mro: thanks
[22:51] <dr3mro> mwhudson, i can import with (git clone url ) on my pc so ithink the url is valid and it's not a problem of google code?
[22:51] <mwhudson> yeah, i don't know what that problem indicates, it's not something i've seen before
[22:52] <dr3mro> mwhudson, can any one in the channel help ???
[22:53] <mwhudson> dr3mro: jelmer is your best bet, if he is around
[22:53] <mwhudson> i have other things to do i'm afraid :/
[22:57] <dr3mro> thanks
[22:58] <dr3mro> mwhudson, thank
[22:58] <dr3mro> jelmer, hello .. can you help me ?
[23:05] <jelmer> hi dr3mro, mwhudson
[23:06] <dr3mro> hello jelmer thanks for response
[23:06] <jelmer> dr3mro: https://code.launchpad.net/~dr3mro/plowshare/plowshare-trunk doesn't work here
[23:06] <dr3mro> hello , I am trying to create a ppa for daily build of a project i am not the owner of it hosted on google code but it fails when i enter the repository address in launchpad https://code.google.com/p/plowshare
[23:06] <dr3mro> jelmer, yes
[23:07] <dr3mro> jelmer, how to make it work
[23:07] <mwhudson> if something doesn't work and you delete it, that's not very helpful :)
[23:07] <dr3mro> jelmer, the developer don't want to host it on launchpad and he uses google code and i want to make ubuntu ppa
[23:07] <mwhudson> jelmer: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/86723548/dr3mro-plowshare-plowshare.log
[23:08] <dr3mro> mwhudson, i deleted it and i retry again
[23:08] <dr3mro> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/86723548/dr3mro-plowshare-plowshare.log
[23:08] <dr3mro> same error again
[23:08] <dr3mro> jelmer, how to fix it what i do wrong
[23:11] <dr3mro> jelmer, mwhudson  hello
[23:12] <mwhudson> dr3mro: it's late for jelmer and i have to work
[23:12] <mwhudson> dr3mro: maybe you should file a bug at http://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad
[23:12] <dr3mro> mwhudson, ok thnx any way and google is no help
[23:18] <jelmer> dr3mro: I think this is a known bug that already has a report filed on launchpad.net
[23:18] <dr3mro> jelmer, is there a work around
[23:20] <jelmer> dr3mro: you should be able to do a local import and push that to launchpad
[23:20] <dr3mro> jelmer, but i had to do that every day .. i want to create a daily ppa
[23:24] <jelmer> dr3mro: bug 878085
[23:46] <Resistance> are the amd64 builders busy?
[23:46] <Resistance> like bogged down?
[23:46] <Resistance> i'm trying to build within a PPA a backported php5, and the amd build has a 36 minute time-to-build, up from a 16 minutes-to-build


[01:39] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1323897] package libqtcore4 (not installed) failed to install: cannot copy extracted data for './us... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1323897 (by Gary)
[05:32] <jussi>  so, anyone here going to both this: http://qt-project.org/groups/qt-contributors-summit-2014 AND Akademy?
[07:12] <kfunk> jussi: /me ;)
[09:14] <shadeslayer> ssup
[09:18] <yofel> coffee time ;)
[09:24] <shadeslayer> mmm coffee
[09:24]  * shadeslayer borrows apachelogger's keyboard and throws it at jenkins
[09:24] <shadeslayer> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/utopic-adt-kde4libs/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/lastBuild/consoleFull < No clear error :/
[09:30] <yofel> "       20     Received SIGUSR1 or SIGINT" wth
[09:30] <shadeslayer> adt-run: unexpected error: test dependencies are unsatisfiable
[09:31] <shadeslayer> which is what is weird
[09:41] <shadeslayer> yofel: also, I don't see SIGUSR1 in the log
[09:41] <yofel> was looking at the bottom, and rsync said exit code 20
[09:43] <shadeslayer> ah
[09:45] <shadeslayer> well, this is not fun dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libkwinactiveeffects.so.1abi5 needed by debian/kde-window-manager-active/usr/lib/kde4/kwinactive4_effect_builtins.so (ELF format: 'elf64-x86-64'; RPATH: '')
[10:12] <shadeslayer> yofel: found the issue
[10:32] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:37] <Riddell> cor, libxml security update broke doc compilation in all kde bits
[10:38] <shadeslayer> Riddell: there's a patch on RB
[10:39] <shadeslayer> I think
[10:44] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yep, doing the updates now, reported as bug 1324066
[11:29] <zorael> Why does akonadi-server (still) have a hard dependency on akonadi-backend-mysql, instead of on a virtual akonadi-backend provided by the -{mysql,sqlite,postgresql} packages?
[11:30] <zorael> Is there a reason I'm missing?
[11:31] <zorael> (LP 988889)
[11:34] <yofel> zorael: failure prevention IIRC, akonadi fails hard if some apt issue removed -mysql as the others could do the job too
[11:34] <zorael> ugh
[11:34] <zorael> ok
[11:34] <yofel> so -mysql as the default is a hard depends
[11:35] <zorael> Aye, just prevents not using mysql :< (instead of a virtual akonadi-backend recommending -mysql and suggesting the others)
[11:48] <sgclark> Riddell: baloo-kf5 is ready for you in bzr
[11:52] <Riddell> sgclark: awooga!
[11:58] <santa> Riddell: morning. I have a couple of branches which I would like to request to merge
[11:58] <santa> https://code.launchpad.net/~panfaust/+junk/kcoreaddons-work
[11:59] <santa> https://code.launchpad.net/~panfaust/+junk/kemoticons-work
[12:02] <Riddell> santa: easier if you click the buttons to make a merge request on launchpad, then I can view the diff in a browser
[12:02] <santa> Riddell: I don't have such button in my branches
[12:02] <santa> dunno why
[12:03] <Riddell> there should be a "Propose for merging into another branch" link
[12:04] <Riddell> https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Review
[12:04] <santa> yeah, I have seen the button in your branches
[12:05] <santa> but it's not available for mines apparently
[12:07] <Riddell> spooky
[12:08] <Riddell> anyway will take a look when I can, although might be this evening as I'm going out this afternoon
[12:08] <santa> ok
[12:09] <santa> if I have time I will ask somewhere else about the absence of that button
[12:11] <Riddell> ask in #launchpad
[12:11] <santa> thnks
[12:20] <Riddell> tsdgeos: anything exciting at the canonical conference?
[12:20] <tsdgeos> Riddell: work? :D
[12:23] <Riddell> tsdgeos: I'd have expected more hot tub parties
[13:30] <shadeslayer> oh noes
[13:30] <shadeslayer> all is lost
[13:30] <shadeslayer> /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/2/lintian.mk:20: recipe for target 'lintian' failed
[13:30] <shadeslayer> what have I done
[13:31] <yofel> that should be set to ignore errors though...
[13:32] <shadeslayer> full log http://paste.ubuntu.com/7536625/
[13:32] <shadeslayer> so that's quite interesting
[13:33] <shadeslayer> that it runs lintian twice?
[13:33] <yofel> well, first time pkg-kde-tools tries to run it, second time it's the pbuilder hook
[13:33] <shadeslayer> ah hm
[13:34] <yofel> first time needs a patched pkg-kde-tools though (which is in ninjas)
[13:34] <shadeslayer> I thought pkg-kde-tools recommends lintian
[13:34] <shadeslayer> so it should be pulled in
[13:34] <shadeslayer> but it's clearly not
[13:35] <yofel> right, and the buildds use --no-install-recommends
[13:35] <shadeslayer> oh
[13:35] <yofel> so it has to be a dependency, which isn't allowed for the primary archive
[13:35] <yofel> (pulls in too much bloat)
[13:35] <shadeslayer> right
[13:35] <shadeslayer> hm
[13:36] <shadeslayer> very well
[13:36] <Riddell> ScottK: bug 1324066 for SRU attention
[13:37] <Riddell> sgclark: I don't think I'll have time to get to your package, if it's blocking just upload it to the experimental PPA and I'll review later
[13:37] <sgclark> Riddell: ok thank you
[13:45] <shadeslayer> we have duplication in the install files :S
[14:01] <ScottK> Riddell: Did you fix utopic yet?
[14:07] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-runtime/+bug/345776 < is that relevant anymore?
[14:07] <shadeslayer> I think not
[14:08] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: hm?
[14:08] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: says fix released
[14:08] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I'm merging and we still have the postinst/prerm files
[14:08] <shadeslayer> though I don't see a file conflict
[14:08] <shadeslayer> so do we have to keep that delta
[14:09] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/pxduw2mjn
[14:10] <ScottK> Riddell: Done.  Please fix utopic.
[14:11] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: we move kdesu out of the way and replace it with kdesudo, yes that is necesary
[14:11] <shadeslayer> mhm
[15:54] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1324171] Window title bar hidden under panel @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1324171 (by rmdegennaro)
[15:54] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1324176] User not showing after adding user in System Settings @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1324176 (by rmdegennaro)
[18:15] <BluesKaj> hmm, "Errors were encountered while processing:sysv-rc, error: Unable to migrate to dependency based boot sequencing" ran sudo dpkg --configure sysv-rc as suggested in the error text, but that failed too
[18:25]  * ScottK guesses he has proposed enabled again.
[23:30] <BluesKaj> dpkg: error processing package sysv-rc (--configure):
[23:30] <BluesKaj>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[23:30] <BluesKaj> Errors were encountered while processing:
[23:30] <BluesKaj>  sysv-rc
[23:30] <BluesKaj> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[23:32] <BluesKaj> sorry about the large post , but it looks serious and there's nothing on launchpad...would like to know if it's being worked on or should file a bug?


[11:15] <blahdeblah> Anyone seen jfer around lately?
[11:15] <head_victim> I hadn't seen him much since LCA last year to be honest.
[11:15] <head_victim> He's up your way though I think
[11:19] <blahdeblah> Yeah, i was gonna get in touch and see what stuff they did at the SCCC.
[11:20] <head_victim> SCCC? School or event?
[11:20] <blahdeblah> computer club
[11:20] <head_victim> Ah fair enough. Hopefully a bit easier to get into than Humbug
[11:21] <blahdeblah> It they meet between my place and the beach - 5 minutes maybe.
[11:21] <head_victim> Lucky so and so
[11:21]  * blahdeblah loves a good beach being that close ;-)
[11:22] <head_victim> Which beach if I may ask? We stay up at moffat semi regularly
[11:22] <blahdeblah> Haven't been to Moffat yet.  Done Kings & Dickie and was gonna try Shelley next.
[11:23] <head_victim> We stay at the apartments across the road from the beach closest the little set of shops.