 Thanks @acheronuk
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/D11 this is needed so we can add network-manager-gnome to seed and nm-applet don't autostart (ending with 2 network trays nm-tray + nm-applet)
[01:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] *Added Hidden=True nm-applet.desktop to xdg autostart so nm.applet doesn't autostart. This will be good since we plan to use network-manager-gnome for connection-editor but not for tray applet. *Change default icon theme from papirus to ePapirus...: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D11
[03:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL778d23deb1ec: Fix wording for panel settings] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL778d23deb1ec
[03:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd54cbce696a5: Add escape key to close windows open to customize panel] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd54cbce696a5
[03:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALe2f699891ca4: Add closing the menu or go back up with escape key] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALe2f699891ca4
[04:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALfdeb5a2e2eb8: Add needed or to wording] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALfdeb5a2e2eb8
[04:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALaf4bffbcb6e2: Add move left and right on calendar] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALaf4bffbcb6e2
[04:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL8e7f1170c9cd: Add mousewheel to change month] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL8e7f1170c9cd
[04:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL7c86bbc34823: Add how to lock/unlock the panel] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL7c86bbc34823
 I joined the qt mailing list to get some help on what I'm stuck on in terms of porting gtk code to qt for redshift
 Hopefully they respond
[05:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2b618c7fec09: Add right click custom options for quick launch] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2b618c7fec09
[05:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL9ff1ff208995: Add remove an item from quick launch] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL9ff1ff208995
[06:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALeeed0e24edf5: Move paragraph down and menu search up] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALeeed0e24edf5
[06:15] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALbf21375e01f7: Add show desktop to the panel stuff] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALbf21375e01f7
[06:40] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL06b87b802926: Add sample preiviewing font] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL06b87b802926
 when doing grab-merge for nm-tray, it says: … *** WARNING *** … It looks like this package is maintained in revision control: … .... … You almost certainly don't want to continue without investigating.
 what does it means?
 @tsimonq2 ^
 @HMollerCl [when doing grab-merge for nm-tray, it says: … *** WARNING *** … It looks like this p …], I don't know if I'd use grab-merge
 The message is correct
 You'll have to do the merge manually :/
 how? I was following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging
 trying to find out why auto merge failed.https://merges.ubuntu.com/n/nm-tray/REPORT
 @HMollerCl [how? I was following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging], It's kind of hard to explain
 Quick example: … Current version in Ubuntu is 1.2.3-1ubuntu1. Grab both that and 1.2.3-1 from Debian, and do debdiff 1.2.3-1.dsc 1.2.3-1ubuntu1.dsc … Grab the latest Debian version, let's say 1.2.3-2. Apply the diff you created in the previous step to the Debian packaging. Create a changelog entry, do a source build, and check the di
 does the patch nm-tray_0.4.1-0ubuntu1.patch that brought me grab-merge works or should I make one with diff?
 @HMollerCl [does the patch nm-tray_0.4.1-0ubuntu1.patch that brought me grab-merge works or …], Yeah, use thst
 *that
 ok, thanks, will see if it works. But I suppose it won't otherwise the auto build should have worked.
 Let's see :)
 sorry, the diff is oly for the .dsc?
 @HMollerCl [sorry, the diff is oly for the .dsc?], The debdiff tool is used with dsc files
 ok, thanks, will se what happen when I have some time
 Sweet
[15:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL9e92757f5988: Add featherpad shortcuts tab of prefrences] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL9e92757f5988
[17:44] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb336d559f3ed: Add paste to lxqt-runner] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb336d559f3ed
[18:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb311206ed6f0: Add cat command to view files] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb311206ed6f0
[19:07] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL3fa069bbd574: Add ARK general prefrences screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL3fa069bbd574
[19:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL4d190aef4690: Add kcalc font screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL4d190aef4690
[19:25] <wxl> @lynorian: you might want to take a look at this nice pic @kc2bez created that explains how to change the login shell https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/19-04-megathread/24/52?u=wxl
[19:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL4330df425f01: Fix indentation] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL4330df425f01
[19:33] <lynorian> wxl I kind of was thinking of how to explain what a login shell is in text is part of why that is not in the manual already
[19:35] <lynorian> wxl I am trying to also use default themeing mostly in the manual I may want to take more with annotations on how to do stuff though
[19:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2018827f7bde: Add pcmanfm-qt file search file type screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2018827f7bde
 I can appreciate that, my theming isn't stock there. It could be a point of confusion.
[19:42] <lynorian> kc2bez: mine on my main system is not default either but I have a vm set to stock theme
[19:43] <wxl> ME would win
[19:43] <wxl> hahah wtf XD
 I have a stock VM, I didn't thik to do it there.
 wxl Like windows ME?
[19:44] <wxl> i have no clue
 :)
 what are the changes you make? Maybe we should include some of the as stock
 I change the windows buttons for instance.
[19:49] <lynorian> I have opaque purple shadows drawn by compton and a purple cursor and different icon theme
 I am using a Kvantum theme KvSimplicityDark
 Kvantum is fantastic.
 @lynorian [<lynorian> I have opaque purple shadows drawn by compton and a purple cursor and …], which icon theme?
[19:52] <lynorian> I use plastique
[19:52] <lynorian> oxygen
 I like numix circle
 never heard of plastique
[19:55] <lynorian> no that is a qt widget stuff
[19:55] <lynorian> oxygen is the icon theme
[20:00] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf3fe75e4d789: Add find files prop screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf3fe75e4d789
[20:34] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL12c2ecbeafe0: Add switch user command] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL12c2ecbeafe0
[20:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd76ce2ba9aaa: Add keyboard shortcut to go up one layer] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd76ce2ba9aaa
[21:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALbee0ffc08703: Add start of changing login shell] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALbee0ffc08703
[21:15] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALdf7787ab7f56: Add users and groups home directory] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALdf7787ab7f56
[22:27] <wxl> upgrading discourse
[22:29] <wxl> and we're back
 \o/
[22:36] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd95330591ea8: Describe output profiles better] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd95330591ea8


[09:09] <DJones> From #ubuntu-irc  seb128> can somebody block "morphis" from #ubuntu-devel -mir -touch -unity?
[09:09] <DJones> seb128> his client is having an issue or something, he quits/joins in loop
[09:13] <DJones> Freenode staff aren't on the access list
 hey
 can somebody block "morphis" from #ubuntu-devel -mir -touch -unity?
 his client is having an issue or something, he quits/joins in loop
[09:16] <xnox> from #ubuntu-irc
[09:20] <bazhang> [morphis] (morphis@fiona.nas-admin.org): morphis
[09:31] <AlanBell> 10:14 [freenode] -!- morphis<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit [Excess Flood]
[09:31] <AlanBell> why excess flood?
[09:31] <AlanBell> that is freenode booting morphis out isn't it?
[09:31] <DJones> Isn't that when somebody reconnects and trys to join too many channels at once
[09:32] <AlanBell> yeah, so not really their fault
[09:32] <AlanBell> or not really a fault with their connection
[09:33] <DJones> No, normally see something like that being ban forwarded to #fix_your_connection and once it stabilises they're able to rejoin the channels
[09:34] <DJones> Although from the seb128's last comment it'd fixed itself
[09:34] <AlanBell> are they still doing it though? last one I see is 10:14
[09:34] <AlanBell> I was only in -unity
[09:34] <DJones> It was the same in -touch, appeared to have stopped
[09:39] <elky> AlanBell, it is a fault of the connection in that the client is supposed to be throttling joins and it doesn't.
[13:56]  * genii-around hugs Myrtti
[13:58] <jbroome> obviously we hate god BluesKaj
[13:58] <genii-around> Heh
[15:23] <genii> maybe someone keep an eye on rah in #u, seems to want to go on about a fix for bug #1 and was referred already to -ot but I have to go to a meeting upstairs and not at the computer
[15:24] <Myrtti> genii: alright, I'll try to keep an eye
[15:26] <DJones> Hmmh, Rage quit by rah there
[15:27] <Myrtti> ragepart
[15:27] <Myrtti> but not actually too agressive, so w/e
[15:27] <DJones> Ah well
[15:28] <jbroome> a mehquit
 ok you know what ? that is some whatever
[16:44] <bazhang> seems resistant to any actual assistance
[17:35] <IdleOne> !no contribute is To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
[17:37] <IdleOne> would it be so hard to redirect the old url to the new url?
[17:38]  * IdleOne wonders why this is not done.
[18:25] <genii> Is there some channel where I can test syntax and my command aliases for stuff like /quiet, kicking and banning, etc? I've been hesitant to do these things because I think I need more practice first, etc. I vaguely remembered something about #ubuntu-sandbox but it didn't seem anyone was in there, etc
[18:26] <genii> Meh, work.
[18:26] <IdleOne> create one and I'll join it
[18:26] <jbroome> you can join ##genii-testing  and you'll have ops  i'll join too and you can abuse me
[18:27] <IdleOne> ##genii-testing is good
[18:28] <IdleOne> genii: priorities! work can wait.
[18:28] <jbroome> i have the autorejoin script loaded so i'll bounce back after a kick
[18:28] <IdleOne> same here
[18:33] <genii> "[ChanServ] Channel ##genii-testing is not registered." It tells me when I try to boot one of you
[18:34] <IdleOne> oh.
[18:34] <IdleOne> you're using chanserv.py?
[18:35] <IdleOne> in that case you need to register a channel to use /cs commands
[18:43] <genii> OK so my remove seems to work OK. The problemmatic one for me before was the ban, I was booting entire channel before it hit the +b part :-/
[18:44] <IdleOne> lol
[18:45] <Pici> o.O
[18:58] <bazhang> "rudola..."
[19:01] <bazhang> time to die
[19:01] <IdleOne> that is a quit message.
[19:01] <bazhang> legendary one
[19:02] <DJones> I wonder what sci fi authors mind that comes from
[19:02] <bazhang> Phillip K. Dick
[19:03] <DJones> Which book?
[19:03] <bazhang> Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep
[19:03] <DJones> Ah, I have that in the loft
[19:03] <bazhang> short story made into Blade Runner
[19:04] <IdleOne> I know Data dreamt of a crow
[19:04] <bazhang> the story is *terrible*
[19:04] <IdleOne> and Seven dreamt of a raven
[19:05] <DJones> Do androids... is probably the 2nd best sci fi book/film
[19:06] <DJones> 1st place goes to http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067756/
[19:07] <bazhang> the movie is great; the story is one of the worst of all time
[19:07] <bazhang> it's *nothing* like the movie
[19:08] <DJones> I prefer the book, movies always seem to miss the detail you get in a book
[19:09] <bazhang> the book is about a guy actually wanting to buy an electric sheep
[19:10] <bazhang> if you read the Game of Thrones books, then saw the series, you would be amazed at the difference'
[19:11] <DJones> I watched about 1/2 an episode of Game Of Thrones before switching it off
[19:11] <IdleOne> it takes about 14 episodes before you really get into it
[19:12] <DJones> I think what put me off was the overt sexual references early on, that does nothing for me, although my 70+ year old parents love the series
[19:13] <IdleOne> Then you would hate Spartacus
[19:13] <DJones> Yep
[19:14] <genii> jbroome: Did I unban you from -sanbbox OK?
[19:14] <genii> Bleh, -sandbox
[19:15] <IdleOne> you did
[19:15] <genii> Ah, good
[19:52] <genii> I wonder if he's preaching about God in there
[19:54] <bazhang> it's a @mark they give him after a certain number of !factoids
[19:59] <bazhang> dirk could have installed and tried every DE by now
[20:00] <Jordan_U> But I doubt that any different DE will help terribly much with playing video smoothly.
[20:01] <bazhang> I wonder if anyone has even asked him about his video card
[20:01] <IdleOne> I think bekks tried earlier
[20:01] <IdleOne> not sure if it went anywhere
[20:02] <bazhang> just seems to want to chat and get assurances rather than try any actual fixes at this point
[20:40] <bazhang> 42
[20:47] <bazhang> !1337
[20:47] <bazhang> hehe
[20:48] <IdleOne> Firs he asks: How do I get rid of a channel in my clients task bar? Then wants to tell people how to be leet
[20:48] <IdleOne> first*
[20:49] <bazhang> he could scarcely make it out of -unregged
[20:49] <IdleOne> my point exactly
[20:49] <DJones> I'm pretty sure it was clcto I removed from the channel yesterday for telling people to stfu
[20:49] <bazhang> should have the floodbots randomly ask in leetspeak
[20:50] <bazhang> DJones, sounds right
[20:53] <DJones> bazhang: Just looking at BT, you've @marked over language, rww has removed from -ot for the same reason, and I did the same in #u, so certainly a history of non !coc comments
[20:53] <bazhang> DJones, oh yeah. I've seen him do the same or near enough on non-ubuntu channels as well
 hi how do i internet?
[21:24] <bazhang> push the IE button


[12:58] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:41] <Mamarok> hm, I doubt that, all other kernels work, so if my graphic chip would be too "fresh" (aka recent?) that would also affect older kernels, wouldn't it...
 Yeah, but you didn't provide the details. That it was working before and with one specific kernel version it broke. So I had to guess
[15:45] <Mamarok> -31 being the newest kernel for 20.10...
[19:19] <RikMills> santa_: thanks
[19:54] <sheytan> Hi! Any news about plasma 5.20.x packages release date?
[20:01] <RikMills> sheytan: if you mean backported, then no.
[20:02] <RikMills> 5.20.4 is in the hippo though :)
[20:17] <sheytan> RikMills: there will be no backports?
[20:17] <sheytan> for 20.10
[20:19] <RikMills> I think we explained before that this requires Qt 5.15, which 20.10 does not have, and can't go in backports PPA
[20:19] <RikMills> might at some point be a build somewhere else, but it is huge amount of work, and at the moment active 21.04 development is priority
[22:20] <santa_> good night everybody
[22:21] <santa_> RikMills: have you pushed the _hirsute_archive branches for plasma?
[22:21] <santa_> I'm doing a test rebuild of plasma atm so it would be fantastic to have the branches in sync
[22:22] <RikMills> santa_: seems not. doing now
[22:22] <santa_> RikMills: thank you very very much, if you can give me a ping when done that would be great too :)
[22:30] <RikMills> santa_: all pushed
[22:32] <santa_> RikMills: thanks a lot, tomorrow we could discuss the status of apps, they seem to need work last time I checked
[22:34] <RikMills> santa_: I have been going through issues with them today. now just some orange things on non PIM
[22:43] <santa_> RikMills: ack, I will see that tomorrow with the test rebuilds of apps
[22:44]  * santa_ dissapears in the darkness of the night


[12:43] <Pumpernickel> If you're using /quote remove, how do you get it to use more than one word as the 'remove' message?
[12:46] <jrib> Pumpernickel: it seems to do: /quote REMOVE $action->{channel} $action->{nick} :$action->{reason}
[12:46] <jrib> so, try with a ':'
[12:46] <LjL> indeed
[12:46] <LjL> all IRC commands have a : before the last argument
[12:50] <Pumpernickel> Good to know.
[12:50] <Pumpernickel> My quiet channel has become not so quiet, recently.
[06:42] (Hobbsee/#ubuntu-ops) nalioth: you can package it/maintain it for ubuntu, btw
[06:42] (nalioth/#ubuntu-ops) Hobbsee: even if it is in MOTU from another person?
[06:43] <Hobbsee> nalioth: do you mean in MOTU or in REVU?
[06:43] <Hobbsee> MOTU is a team.  no thing is in it.
[06:43] <Hobbsee> unless the thing is a person.
[06:45] <nalioth> Hobbsee: i'll mail you the stuff, i've no interest in REVU any more
[06:45] <Hobbsee> nalioth: revu does suck, unless you poke people about it
[06:45] <Hobbsee> nalioth: but by all means
[06:59] <effie_jayx> nalioth,  I have a problem with a recuring troll on ubuntu-ve
[07:00] <effie_jayx> nalioth,   sortadi_ (i=sorta@gateway/tor/x-e53024438c163557) ha entrado en #ubuntu-ve
[07:00] <nalioth> lovely.
[07:00] <Madpilot> -ve? Venezuela?
[07:01] <effie_jayx> nalioth,  anything we can do?
[07:01] <nalioth> Madpilot: si
[07:01] <nalioth> effie_jayx: sure thing
[07:01] <nalioth> effie_jayx: you put him out, and i'll see what we can do for a ban
[07:02] <nalioth> or you could just block tor, effie_jayx
[07:02] <nalioth> ban forward it to #ubuntu-proxy-users
[07:03] <elkbuntu> nalioth, see true-man in #ubuntu
[07:04] <elkbuntu> s/-/_/
[07:04] <effie_jayx> nalioth,  how can I block tor
[07:04] <nalioth> effie_jayx: /mode #ubuntu-ve +b *!*@gateway/tor/*!#ubuntu-proxy-users <enter>
[07:05] <nalioth> Madpilot: turkish
[07:06] <nalioth> tell me another one
[07:06] <effie_jayx> nalioth,  thanks bro
[07:07] <effie_jayx> the guy has been klined from other channels in my country ... but his attitudes is so negative he scares of new guys
[07:07] <nalioth> well, now you won't have any more tor troublemakers
[07:08] <elkbuntu> effie_jayx, does cgi:irc get used much for -ve?
[07:08] <nalioth> elkbuntu: perhaps it might pick up now . . . . <EG>
[07:08] <elkbuntu> nalioth, that was my thought too
[07:08] <effie_jayx> elkbuntu,  not really no
[07:09] <elkbuntu> effie_jayx, then it might be worth doing the same for cgi:irc, nalioth should be able to help you with that
[07:10] <nalioth> Madpilot: true_man is russian, i believe
[07:11] <Madpilot> nalioth, odd, Russian usually shows up fine in XChat - that five line block of his was a mix of boxes & random characters
[07:11] <nalioth> Madpilot: he's in russian channels
[07:12] <elkbuntu> Madpilot, providing his client is using the right ISO thingie, it would show up fine
[07:12] <Madpilot> he must be using a coding aside from utf8, then
[07:12] <elkbuntu> Madpilot, that is what i suspect
[07:13] <effie_jayx> elkbuntu,  thanks :D
[07:15] <elkbuntu> no problema, hermano
[08:09] <effie_jayx> good night guys
[08:10] <Hobbsee> night effie_jayx
[08:10] <effie_jayx> elkbuntu,  you rule in spanish
[08:10] <effie_jayx> :D
[08:10] <mneptok> calling out, in transit. calling out, in transit.
[10:31] <Hobbsee> nalioth: ping
[11:03] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-mythtv, gardengnome said: !apport is <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport>
[12:20] <gnomefreak> mc44: disclaimers dont stop flames from starting
[02:46] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, MenZa said: ubotu: themes is Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomisingGnome
[02:51] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, MenZa said: ubotu: themes is Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomiseGnome
[04:35] <ubotu> orbin called the ops in #ubuntu
[05:42] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, Jamiehd said: !cheese is tasty!
[06:50] <mruiz> Hi. I'm Miguel Ruiz, ubuntu-cl team contact. We want to recover the administration of our channel (#ubuntu-cl), because our highest (level) OP is MIA. Any idea?
[06:51] <nixternal> would probably take a server admin, however I don't know their rules of doing so...but I can attest to your OP being MIA if that helps them at all
[06:52] <mc44> seveas has to prod the right people, I believe
[06:52] <Seveas> mruiz, mhz has been around a few weeks ago -- not really MIA
[06:53] <Seveas> have you tried mailing him?
[06:53] <mruiz> but, for us (Community) is MIA
[06:54] <mruiz> Seveas: many times! also, we lost the channel password (I understood this)
[06:54] <nalioth> nixternal: it takes a seveas
[06:54] <nixternal> Seveas: they have tried contacting him a few times, they have recently taken it to the loco list as well
[06:55] <Seveas> nixternal, I replied there :)
[06:55] <nalioth> nixternal: once seveas is poked, he puts on his patrick stewart voice and says "Make it so!"
[06:55] <nixternal> so you did :)
[06:55] <Seveas> nalioth, haha :)
[06:55] <nixternal> hahaha, patrick stewart!!!
[06:56] <Hobbsee> hi Seveas!
[06:56] <Seveas> ola
[06:56] <mc44> Engage!
[07:02] <mruiz> then, what's your suggestion ?
[07:09] <mruiz> ping Seveas
[07:27] <MystaMax> hello
[07:27] <nalioth> hi MystaMax
[07:27] <MystaMax> im following instructions for testing...
[07:27] <MystaMax> whats the next step
[07:30] <nalioth> stand by and i'll test ya
[07:31] <nalioth> MystaMax: you can join #ubuntu now, thanks for your patience  :)
[07:32] <MystaMax> thanks nalioth, i appreciate ya help
[07:33] <nalioth> MystaMax: you're welcome
[07:33] <Tm_T> hi kids
[07:38] <ubotu> In ubotu, SilentDis said: !wammu is Wammu-Moble phone manager.  Homepage: http://wammu.eu/
[08:40] <ompaul> Seveas, Seveas Seveas got a mo?
[08:55] <johnybot> need to be tested!
[08:56] <PriceChild> Hey johnybot
[08:57] <PriceChild> johnybot, you may rejoin #ubuntu :)
[09:01] <maxamillion> PriceChild: what did he need to be tested for?
[09:02] <PriceChild> the dcc exploit
[09:02] <maxamillion> ah
[09:20] <mneptok> 15:17 < DeadYak> regurg, humping?
[09:20] <mneptok> 15:17 < regurg> somebody said humping was when two bots exchange sensitive factoids
[09:23] <jrib> uh huh...
[09:23] <LjL> er?
[09:23] <jrib> mc44: rejected
[09:24] <mc44> :(
[09:24] <mc44> no exchange for me
[09:33] <ompaul> Seveas, fixed it - arrr painful


[01:06] <ruben23> hi guys i have a startup scrip named vicidial and wanted this to be run this every startup on my Ubuntu server 16.04 any idea how to do it.?
[01:08] <sarnold> ruben23: sticking a @reboot line in a crontab would be an easy way to do it
[01:08] <sarnold> ruben23: just be aware that cron has different PATH than your login shell :)
[01:10] <ruben23> should it not be put in /etc/init.d/
[01:10] <ruben23> then make like this update-rc.d -f vicidial defaults  <------------ is this still works.?
[01:10] <sarnold> yes, that should still work too
[01:13] <sarnold> ruben23: you may or may not find this useful, too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers
[01:17] <ruben23> ok thanks, where do we can view if how the startup script run during the startup of teh ubuntu server.? like logs
[01:18] <tomreyn> ruben23: /var/log/syslog* or journalctl -b
[01:20] <tomreyn> ruben23: the 'proper' way with systemd to run something at boot would be to create a systemd unit (start reading up on this if you'll upgrade to 18.04 LTS and beyond at some point).
[01:22] <tomreyn> for now, there are still compatibility wrappers for sysv init scripts (but i hope / wish they'll all be converted / dropped 'soon')
[13:31] <mjcd> holla all
[13:32] <mjcd> i'm looking for mouse support for the native terminals without window or desktop managers
[13:32] <mjcd> I tried um
[13:32] <mjcd> gpm
[13:32] <mjcd> but it's super laggy
[13:32] <mjcd> painful to use
[13:33] <mjcd> I know easiest solution is to ssh in from windows or wherever
[17:18] <ratrace> hi. anyone with experince with btrfs in kernels newer than 4.9? iam re-evaluating its feasibility for production storage, and would love to hear other people's experience.
[17:30] <blackflow> ratrace: considered ZFS too? I wouldn't trust btrfs in prod.
[17:34] <ratrace> blackflow, considered but we have no interest in zfs. plus its future in linux is questionable due to license. prefer in-tree modules wherever possible.
[17:35] <compdoc> I hadnt heard there were issues
[17:37] <ratrace> compdoc, debian has a wiki page full of warnings, and we had issues with earlier kernels (4.4 and 4.9) with unmountable filesystems after conversion of extent types from single to mirror
[18:56] <hackeron_> Hi there, I have an issue with journalctl, I set it to use 100M maximum, which for some reason gives me only 2 days of logs. When I run journalctl --disk-usage it shows 106M used but when I run journalctl | wc -c - there are only 7MB of logs. Any ideas?
[19:03] <hackeron_> I posted a question with more details here: https://serverfault.com/questions/975160/journalctl-disk-usage-shows-106m-while-journalctl-wc-c-shows-only-7mb-of-lo
[20:08] <Walex> ratrace: Btrfs works well except for the multiple device layer. If you use it on a single block device (e.g. based on MD) it is quite reliable.
[20:14] <ratrace> Walex, that defeats almost all the advantages of btrfs
[20:15] <Walex> ratrace: the main advantage of Btrfs is snapshots...
[20:19] <andol> Walex: Because everyone has the same use case and sees the same advantages?
[20:22] <TJ-> hackeron_:  the stored logs are binary and include lots of meta-data you don't see in the usual output
[20:25] <Walex> andol: because snapshots is the almost unique feature of Btrfs, unique if you count only in-kernel filesystems
[20:30] <ratrace> Walex, yes snapshots and checksumming, make the two top reasons we want btrfs.
[20:31] <ratrace> checksumming more than snapshots
[21:16] <blackflow> ZFS has no issues with RAID levels tho'.