[03:28] <zul> damn too bad dendrobates is not here
[03:33] <ScottK> Why is that?
[03:36] <zul> ottawa beat atlanta in hockey rather baldy
[03:37] <ScottK> Ah.
[03:37] <ScottK> Hockey in Atlanta is just plain wrong anyway.
[03:37] <zul> it is
[03:53] <antdedyet> == ScottK
[03:54] <antdedyet> Canada has more ice to practice on
[03:55] <antdedyet> at least that's how I attempted to comfort the Georgia LoCo :)
[04:03] <ScottK> Or, put slightly differently, hockey in Canada is not un-natural.
[15:40] <lamont> soren: looking at the postfix doc (yes, finally).
[15:40] <lamont> 1.3.2: what's diff between that and using the snakeoil-cert?
[17:57] <jason442> hello
[17:58] <jason442> I'm looking to setup a homeserver and really want to use ubuntu as my OS. However, I'm really having a hard time getting SlimServer working...anyone have any experiance getting SlimServer to work?
[17:58] <somerville32> What is SlimServer?
[17:58] <jason442> Its for the Squeezebox by Slim Devices... its a device that streams music wirlessly to your stereo
[17:59] <somerville32> !slimserver
[17:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slimserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:59] <somerville32> !info slimserver
[17:59] <ubotu> slimserver: Streaming Audio Server. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.3.0-5 (gutsy), package size 1277 kB, installed size 6068 kB
[17:59] <jason442> ok
[18:00] <jason442> I may have to just use windowsXP for my server OS
[18:00] <jason442> :(
[18:00] <jason442> Anyone recommend a good windows channel for setting up a home server?
[18:00] <jason442> I might get kicked for mentioning windoes in this channel :)
[18:01] <jason442> alrighty, well... this is a kick'n channel....cya
[18:02] <zul> uh ok
[19:51] <sommer> lamont: did you mean me?
[19:56] <sommer> lamont: that's a good point I don't think there is a difference.
[19:57] <sommer> lamont: is the snake-oil cert installed with Postfix or Dovecot?
[20:52] <lamont> postfix Depends: ssl-cert --> snakeoil
[20:52] <lamont> and it currently auto-configs snakeoil on new installs (for currently== breezy and later or some such)
[20:55] <sommer> lamont: cool, does postfix use it for tls automatically?
[20:56] <lamont> somewhat
[20:57] <lamont>         if [ -f /etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key ]; then
[20:57] <lamont>             cat /usr/share/postfix/main.cf.tls >> main.cf
[20:57] <lamont>         fi
[20:57] <lamont> and that file has:
[20:57] <lamont> # TLS parameters
[20:57] <lamont> smtpd_tls_cert_file=/etc/ssl/certs/ssl-cert-snakeoil.pem
[20:57] <lamont> smtpd_tls_key_file=/etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key
[20:57] <lamont> smtpd_use_tls=yes
[20:57] <lamont> smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${queue_directory}/smtpd_scache
[20:57] <lamont> smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${queue_directory}/smtp_scache
[20:57] <lamont> # See /usr/share/doc/postfix/TLS_README.gz in the postfix-doc package for
[20:57] <lamont> # information on enabling SSL in the smtp client.
[20:57] <somerville32> !pastebin
[20:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[20:57] <lamont> so if ssl-cert is installed and configured before postfix configures, then you get tls by default
[20:57]  * lamont doesn't consider 400 chars to be a large text
[20:57] <sommer> lamont: gotcha
[20:58] <sommer> so from a base install if you do a apt-get install postfix you don't get ssl-cert?
[21:00] <sommer> the plan is to add modified install/config instructions once the dovecot sasl+postfix integration is done
[21:00] <sommer> that should tie in to the configuration done when using the tasksel options too
[21:01] <sommer> I'll add something about the snake-oil cert as well though
[21:04] <sommer> everything else look good?
[21:06] <sommer> we could also link to the self-signed cert portion of the apache section... I believe it's the same instructions
[21:09] <lamont> sommer: I don't know that there's a guarantee that ssl-cert
[21:09] <lamont> s postinst has run first.
[21:10] <sommer> okay, so we can just document it as an option along with a self-signed cert?
[21:11] <lamont> yeah
[21:11] <lamont> self-signed certs make postfix cry, anyway
[21:12] <sommer> hehe... I know how it feels sometimes they make me sad too
[21:12] <sommer> thanks lamont I'll adjust that part


[17:24] <user1> makdaknife:  thx. isnt it better to dl the latest .iso.   (i just installed 7.10) so dont care apps and configs
[17:25] <makdaknife> user1: if you don't mind going through the install all over again... it may make sense...
[17:25] <user1> k
[17:26] <TeslaTony> If I set up a dual monitor display when I have multiple desktops, can I get different desktops to show on the monitors, and choose which ones will be showing when?
[17:26]  * makdaknife wonders why all the people who seem to just be starting out all run off to install beta versions of things
[17:26] <user1> makdaknife:  i am not a starter. i just install 7.10 on my new system
[17:28] <makdaknife> user1: obviously very experienced if you need to ask how/why you need to edit your sources.list file to upgrade from gutsy to hardy
[17:28] <Hamra> it's not a matter of starter or expert, it's a matter of personality, and liking to new stuff, there are experts who still prefer old programs! it's just taste i guess :P
[17:28] <user1> makdaknife:  yes. because i never did it...
[17:28] <user1> makdaknife:  how long have you been using linux?
[17:29] <makdaknife> Hamra: sure thing.... its just that Beta usually means that software is still being tested and is likely to be buggy... if you're a starter... you're going to have trouble working out how to use a buggy system
[17:29] <makdaknife> user1: 8 years
[17:29] <user1> makdaknife:  how apache works.
[17:30] <user1> makdaknife: you wont know if you used for 16 yrs and nver user apache.
[17:30] <makdaknife> user1: are you asking a question or stating something?
[17:30] <bipolar> has anyone gotten shared folders to work in Virtualbox?
[17:30] <user1> makdaknife:  just ending :)
[17:31] <user1> bipolar:  yes.
[17:31] <bipolar> I'm using the hardy packaged version
[17:31] <makdaknife> user1: okay... if you haven't used apt yet, then you're new to any debian based system in my opinion
[17:31] <user1> bipolar: you have to install guest addons
[17:31] <bipolar> user1: hmm... I've done that. :(
[17:31] <user1> makdaknife:  i havnt used ALL apt commands. YEET
[17:31] <bipolar> user1: are you useing the packaged version or the download direct from virtualbox?
[17:31] <user1> YET*
[17:31] <user1> bipolar: package ose version
[17:31]  * makdaknife yawns
[17:32] <bipolar> user1: hmm... same here. weird...
[17:32] <user1> bipolar:  but iam in 7.10
[17:32] <bipolar> user1: maybe thats it.
[17:32] <user1> bipolar:  install guest addons
[17:32] <dthacker-work> !xinerama
[17:32] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[17:32] <bipolar> user1: it's already installed.
[17:32] <dthacker-work> !dual
[17:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:32] <user1> bipolar:  #vbox
[17:32] <bipolar> maybe I effed something up with my nlited windows.
[17:32] <dthacker-work> !DualHead | TeslaTony
[17:32] <ubotu> TeslaTony: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[17:33] <TeslaTony> dthacker-work: Thanks. I'll take a look at those
[17:33] <dthacker-work> TeslaTony: I'd start with the DualHead entry.
[17:33] <chi_> hi all, how to find out which "LSOF" lines are outgoing and which are incoming? ( lsof -i)
[17:34] <dthacker-work> TeslaTony: I use Xinerama and mine is configured for 1 large desktop on both screens.  I haven't tried the config you're after.  Good Luck!
[17:34] <user1> makdaknife:  i have a tv card. not working. any help?
[17:35] <user1> makdaknife: Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)
[17:36] <jussi01> !tv | user1
[17:36] <ubotu> user1: http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[17:36] <dthacker-work> chi_: lsof looks for open files. I don't thing you can distinguish reads from writes.  Try 'man lsof' and see if theres a way to do that.
[17:37] <jussi01> user1: also: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-41123.html
[17:38] <Hamra> omg, thnx for asking about the TV, lol, i completely forgot that i have a tv tuner when i switched to linux. not that i bothered use it on windows :P
[17:38]  * dthacker-work hugs his mythbuntu box
[17:39] <rzepek> witam wszystkich
[17:40] <rzepek> jak zainstalowac compiza w kubuntu 6,06 ??
[17:40] <rzepek> ;p
[17:41] <dthacker-work> rzepek:  this is an english channel,  what language are you looking for help in?
[17:41] <jussi01> !pl | rzepek
[17:41] <ubotu> rzepek: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[17:41] <dthacker-work> That was my third guess.
[17:42] <jussi01> dthacker-work: hostnames are your friend ;)
[17:42] <dthacker-work> doh!
[17:45] <CyD_> is there a way to try the xubuntu-customized xfce on my kubuntu install?
[17:45] <jussi01> CyD_: yes
[17:46] <jussi01> CyD_: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[17:46] <CyD_> jussi01: great thank you much
[17:46] <jussi01> CyD_: that will install it all, you can then log into it at the login screen
[17:52] <Hamra> once hardy is officially released, will there be any special procedure to go from hardy beta to the normal one? or will it be just a like a regualr update? mainly, do i have to download those few hundred megs?
[17:52] <Pici> !final | Hamra ;)
[17:52] <ubotu> Hamra ;): If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Hardy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[17:53] <user1> kget's resume support is not good. am i right? any better  dl manager for good resume support and for larg downloads?
[17:53] <Hamra> lol, the exact word-by-word sentence i wanted to see :P
[17:53] <Hamra> what's wrong with kget? it works like a charm for me
[17:55] <gentix> hi
[17:55] <Odd-rationale> gentix: hello
[17:55] <gentix> I've got a question.
[17:55] <Odd-rationale> !ask
[17:55] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:55] <gentix> Is it possible to install FF2 and TB2 from mozilla via apt-get?
[17:56] <Odd-rationale> tb2?
[17:56] <gentix> Thunderbird 2
[17:56] <Odd-rationale> gentix: for firefox, just do "sudo apt-get install firefox" or use adept
[17:56] <user1> kget's resume support is not good. am i right? any better  dl manager for good resume support and for larg downloads?
[17:57] <gentix> yes. i allready know. but if i try so, only firefox and thunderbird 1.5.x are going to be installed
[17:57] <Odd-rationale> gentix: the same with thunderbird: "sudo apt-get install thunderbird"
[17:57] <gentix> i already did apt-get update && upgrade
[17:58] <gentix> any further ideas? :)
[17:58] <user1> Odd-rationale:  ?
[17:59] <Odd-rationale> gentix: the thunderbird version in my repo is Version: <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:59] <gentix> hm
[17:59] <gentix> strange
[17:59] <Odd-rationale> gentix: apt-cache show thunderbird
[18:00] <gentix> mom
[18:00] <Odd-rationale> user1: I don't know. I, too have had some trouble with kget resume download...
[18:01] <user1> Odd-rationale:  you didnt tried any other?
[18:01] <gentix> Odd-rationale: Firefox 1.5
[18:01] <Odd-rationale> user1: nope. I have relativly fast internet connection anyways...
[18:02] <user1> k
[18:02] <Odd-rationale> gentix: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[18:02] <gentix> Kubuntu <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:02] <Odd-rationale> gentix: ah, that's may be why. I'm using 7.10
[18:03] <gentix> oh no :)
[18:03] <Odd-rationale> gentix: You may be able to upgrade directly to 8.04. not 100% sure though
[18:03] <jussio1> yes, thats correct
[18:03] <Hamra> is it true that openoffice 2.4 won't be in gutsy's repos?
[18:03] <gentix> how to do so?
[18:04] <jussio1> gentix: have a look at mark shuttleworths blog
[18:04] <jussio1> !info openoffice
[18:04] <Odd-rationale> gentix: wait until 8.04 is released first though
[18:04] <ubotu> Package openoffice does not exist in gutsy
[18:04] <jussio1> hrm
[18:04] <Odd-rationale> gentix: release date is arpil 24
[18:04] <gentix> i ve been using windows for my whole life
[18:04] <Hamra> !info openoffice.org
[18:04] <ubotu> openoffice.org (source: openoffice.org): OpenOffice.org Office suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.3.0-1ubuntu5.3 (gutsy), package size 4 kB, installed size 44 kB
[18:05] <gentix> just found kubuntu in an old cd case
[18:05] <Hamra> not very helpful :P
[18:05] <jussio1> there we are, so only 2.3 in gutsy
[18:05] <gentix> hat to delete my harddisk
[18:05] <makdaknife> !info openoffice.org
[18:05] <ubotu> openoffice.org (source: openoffice.org): OpenOffice.org Office suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.3.0-1ubuntu5.3 (gutsy), package size 4 kB, installed size 44 kB
[18:05] <gentix> and wanted to have some fun with linux :)
[18:05] <makdaknife> Hamra: sorry... didn't see you had done that
[18:05] <Odd-rationale> gentix: had fun?
[18:06] <gentix> :)
[18:06] <gentix> a lot
[18:06] <gentix> everything workd so far
[18:07] <gentix> as u can see i m even online ;)
[18:07] <makdaknife> gentix: that's a miracle in itself...
[18:07] <gentix> thank you :)
[18:08] <gentix> is there any emulator, that can help me to get some only windows programs work?
[18:08] <gentix> except wine
[18:08] <Odd-rationale> gentix: really only wine
[18:08] <algyz> gentix:  you where wrong :)
[18:09] <makdaknife> gentix: you can buy crossover office... it works pretty well
[18:09] <alucardromero> Is there a way to log off a user remotely or kill programs no listed in ps -aux
[18:09] <lufthanza> how do I use apt to tell me what the largest packages currently installed on my system are?
[18:09] <makdaknife> gentix: its not too pricey either
[18:10] <alucardromero> I'm trying to delete a user, but somebody says he's logged in.
[18:10] <alucardromero> I see no processes for said user though. :(
[18:10] <gentix> what about virtualbox?
[18:10] <Odd-rationale> gentix: assuming you have a copy of windows. but hardware acceleration may be a problem
[18:10] <makdaknife> gentix: virtualbox is great, but you need to install a copy of Windows in the virtual environment
[18:11] <makdaknife> Odd-rationale: I must admit, I've had few problems with VirtualBox... but then I'm not a gamer... so maybe its not great for stuff like that
[18:12] <Odd-rationale> makdaknife: i'm no gamer either..
[18:12] <gentix> thank you so far
[18:12] <Odd-rationale> your welcome, so far
[18:12] <gentix> :)
[18:13] <gentix> so far mean something like - until now, right?
[18:13] <gentix> s
[18:13] <nosrednaekim> yes
[18:13] <Hamra> i'm connected to internet by LAN, the other computer which receives the internet has winXP, and allows remote PCs to control the connection, is there a way from kubuntu to see an icon of this remote connection? to be able to connect it, disconnect it?
[18:13] <gentix> byebye
[18:13] <Odd-rationale> gentix: bye
[18:14] <makdaknife> gentix: ciao
[18:24] <ubuntu_> hi
[18:25] <Odd-rationale> ubuntu_: hi
[18:25] <Cannon> hey guys, i have a windows loaded and I can't get rid of it even after reboot: "KDE Wallet Service"
[18:26] <Odd-rationale> Cannon: type in your kde wallet password.
[18:26] <Cannon> it won't let me
[18:27] <Cannon> i can see a faint txt box
[18:27] <Odd-rationale> Cannon: screenshot?
[18:27] <Cannon> thats all
[18:27] <Cannon> won't let me type in it though
[18:27] <ubuntu_> Ih, I'm here with Kubuntu 7.10 and konversation, just to say ot you all gays at ubuntu GREAT JOB, my wireless RT61 finaly working :-) yeee
[18:27] <Cannon> lol, whats a good screen capture proggie for linux?
[18:28] <Odd-rationale> Cannon: ksnapshot for kubuntu. should be preinstalled
[18:28] <Cannon> k
[18:29] <Odd-rationale> kmenu --> graphics
[18:29] <Cannon> ta
[18:29] <Cannon> where can I host it?
[18:29] <Cannon> * up it
[18:30] <Odd-rationale> Cannon: are you registered? if so, you can send it right to me.
[18:30] <Odd-rationale> !regiseter
[18:30] <ubuntu_> keep good work
[18:30] <ubuntu_> :-) ;-)
[18:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about regiseter - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:30] <Odd-rationale> !register
[18:30] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[18:30] <Cannon> lol
[18:32] <Cannon> lol, my nick is aready registered
[18:32] <Odd-rationale> Cannon: or here: http://imagebin.ca/
[18:32] <Cannon> ta
[18:33] <DexterF> hi
[18:33] <Odd-rationale> DexterF: hi
[18:33] <Cannon> http://imagebin.ca/view/bA37Ua.html @ Odd-rationale
[18:33] <DexterF> guys, what's with card reader in gutsy? after I upgraded from feisty this is a mess
[18:34] <Cannon> lol, hardy will be out soon
[18:34] <DexterF> copying mp3 to my sd card in a usb card reader writes 20MB, then stalls, konqueror locks up
[18:35] <Odd-rationale> Cannon: hmm. try this. in terminal do "killall kwalletmanager"
[18:36] <Cannon> kwalletmanager: no process killed
[18:38] <Odd-rationale> Cannon: try "ctrl+alt+esc" and click on that window (be carefull not to click the wrong thing)
[18:39] <Cannon> k
[18:39] <Cannon> nothing
[18:40] <Odd-rationale> Cannon: when you do "ctrl+alt+esc" does you cursor change to an "x"?
[18:40] <Cannon> nup
[18:41] <Odd-rationale> Cannon: try this: do alt+f2 then type "xkill" then click on that window.
[18:42] <Cannon> i have another unclosable window too: KNetworkManager
[18:42] <Cannon> k
[18:42] <Cannon> yey, worked :)
[18:42] <Cannon> very handy
[18:43] <DarkStar> SkolBoy
[18:43] <Odd-rationale> Cannon: sure is.
[18:43] <SkolBoy> hello
[18:43] <SkolBoy> i'm from brazil
[18:43] <SkolBoy> ^^
[18:44] <Odd-rationale> Cannon: but if you accidentally clicked on your desktop or taskbar instaed, you might end up killing that process...
[18:47] <brendan__> packages.ubuntu.com seems to be down, who do i report that to?
[18:49] <Cannon> lol, yeah Odd-rationale
[18:52] <Cannon> is there a way to make linux boot with number lock turned on?
[18:52] <Cannon> it drives me nuts!l ol
[18:53] <Odd-rationale> Cannon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[18:54] <sigma_1234> what date is hardy due out on?
[18:57] <Odd-rationale> sigma_1234: april 24
[18:58] <jimmy51vinsky> any cpp fellas in here?
[18:59] <NickPresta> jimmy51vinsky, what's the question?
[18:59] <jimmy51vinsky> on my kubuntu box, i'm trying to support a USB device.  i have the driver and test app from the manfuacturer, and i'd like to make a change
[18:59] <jimmy51vinsky> http://pastebin.cross-lfs.org/5361 is the file
[19:00] <elpez> please help... X wont start from a livecd.... it says "waiting for X server to shut down"... can i shut it down?
[19:00] <jimmy51vinsky> i want to add a command line arg for the strings to display (see lines 69 and 98)
[19:01] <jimmy51vinsky> i'm able to compile and run just fine... i just want to add an argument
[19:01] <jimmy51vinsky> or two, actually
[19:01] <jimmy51vinsky> two strings
[19:02] <Nirkus> hey. i have a PCCARD UMTS card and want to launch a script when it's inserted, so i can setup the PIN. any pointers on how to do this properly?
[19:03] <Nirkus> there seems to be no umts-card with pin support (modem connection) shipped with the NetworkManager
[19:04] <cybrhuman> hi, how do I connect to a windows network domain?
[19:04] <sigma_1234> yay a whole 13 days
[19:05] <rzepek> dajcie mi adres pokoju co gadaja po polsku :P
[19:05] <wpk> !pl
[19:05] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[19:07] <martijn81> are there tools for linux to re-encode HD 1920x1080 wmv movies to x264 mkv 720p?
[19:07] <nazim> hi every body
[19:08] <NickPresta> martijn81, mencoder, ffmpeg,
[19:08] <Cannon> in linux browser how can I force a directory to come first ... "_" doesn't work like it does it windows
[19:08] <martijn81> NickPresta: are there easy to use front ends for that?/
[19:09] <Cannon> hi nazim
[19:13] <pagan0ne> is 7.04 still supported?
[19:14] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: yes
[19:14] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: each release is supported for 18 months. lts for 3 years
[19:14] <Odd-rationale> desktops that is.
[19:15] <pagan0ne> ok, i got a weird issue, i was making a backup of my /home directory, and when i was done, i accidently deleted /home, so i restored from my back up... full back-up all files etc... now when i go to login it takes my password, the screen goes black then it drops me back to kdm like the password failed, but it didnt fail, and doesnt say it did fail
[19:16] <Cannon> whats an "RPM" package
[19:16] <Cannon> ?
[19:16] <pagan0ne> Cannon a RPM package is a package ment for redhat linux
[19:17] <pagan0ne> it can be installed on kubuntu, although i would not reccomend trying
[19:17] <Cannon> so I need non rpm's for kubuntu then?
[19:17] <Cannon> k
[19:18] <Cannon> woah, there is sooooooooooo much to remember for a new linux user
[19:18] <jhutchins_wk> On the live CD, does the default user have a password (for sudo)?
[19:19] <Odd-rationale> jhutchins_wk: no
[19:19] <jhutchins_wk> so just hit enter, or does it not even prompt?
[19:19] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: can you log in at ctrl+alt+f1?
[19:20] <Odd-rationale> jhutchins_wk: I don't think it asks.
[19:21] <jimmy51vinsky> Q:  http://pastebin.cross-lfs.org/5363  - Lines 38 through 47 are me trying to deal with strings.  Could someone tell me what I'm doing wrong there?
[19:22] <_myrtille_> !vi
[19:22] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code
[19:22] <eddieftw> .wc
[19:23] <_myrtille_> hehe :D i'm having trouble with the configuration of vi/vim is there a special channel for vi/vim or should i just ask herre? :)
[19:24] <_myrtille_> -r
[19:24] <Odd-rationale> _myrtille_: /join #vim
[19:25] <_myrtille_> Odd-rationale:thx :)
[19:27] <JohnLee> hey guys I have created a persistent USB pendrive install of ubuntu and really like it.   Has anybody done the same for Kubuntu?
[19:27] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale yes i can ctrl+alt+f1 and log in, all my files etc appear to be there
[19:30] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale, i actually logged in and created a new user, and tried to login kdm as that user, and am having the same issue, im perplexed because i didnt touch any system files... just my /home directory
[19:33] <noodles12> is there a way to restart the sound?
[19:34] <bin4ry> hi together
[19:34] <bin4ry> how can i find out the path of jdk?
[19:36] <Cannon> hey, am installing and configuring apachi and I need to edit a .conf file in Kate but it won't let me save changes ... is there  way to overcome this?
[19:36] <bin4ry> Cannon: sudo kate $file
[19:36] <chemist109> Cannon: Are you running kate as root?
[19:36] <Cannon> thanks bin4ry
[19:36] <chemist109> bin4ry: beat me to it!
[19:36] <Cannon> no, it would be easier to run it as root though
[19:37] <pagan0ne> Cannon but less safe
[19:37] <Cannon> heh
[19:37] <Cannon> am the only one using it
[19:37] <pagan0ne> Cannon sudo was implimented so that normal users wouldnt run as root all the time, running as root is a serious security issue
[19:37] <Cannon> yeah
[19:38] <bin4ry> chemist: what does this mean?
[19:38] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale you there?
[19:38] <chemist109> bin4ry: You answered Cannon's question slightly ahead of me.
[19:39] <bin4ry> ok but what does your proverb mean
[19:39] <chemist109> bin4ry: "Beat me to it" means answered first.
[19:39] <Cannon> is this something I need to worry about?
[19:40] <Cannon> cannon@cannon-desktop:/usr/local/apache2/conf$ sudo kate httpd.conf
[19:40] <Cannon> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-cannon" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[19:40] <Cannon> Error: "/tmp/kde-cannon" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[19:40] <Cannon> Error: "/tmp/ksocket-cannon" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[19:40] <pagan0ne> Cannon i dont think it will be an issue
[19:40] <Cannon> cool
[19:40] <algyz> Cannon:  it's ok
[19:40] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: sorry. took a break...
[19:40] <Cannon> cos am really new to apachi and if something wasn't working i prolly wouldn't even notice! :P
[19:41] <algyz> Cannon:  btw, kdesu kate ;)
[19:41] <algyz> not sudo
[19:41] <bin4ry> chemist: thx
[19:41] <chemist109> We should have told Cannon to use kdesu
[19:41] <Cannon> lol
[19:41] <Cannon> whats kdesu?
[19:41] <algyz> ;)
[19:41] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale thats ok, ill brb myself, 2 mins
[19:41] <algyz> !kdesu | Cannon
[19:41] <ubotu> Cannon: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[19:42] <Cannon> ta :)
[19:42] <Cannon> i don't understand why sudo can be so dangerous
[19:42] <algyz> !kdesu | Cannon
[19:42] <ubotu> Cannon: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[19:42] <algyz> to know why
[19:43] <Pici> There is no undo on the command line.
[19:43] <algyz> Pici:  ctrl+c
[19:43] <algyz> it's useful sometimes
[19:43] <Pici> algyz: Yes, but that only aborts the operation, which may have already had disasterous results.
[19:43] <algyz> It is :)
[19:44] <NickPresta> Cannon, sudo is dangerous because you're executing something with root level permissions. This means you can do anything (delete sensitive files, etc) without any sort of "STOP! YOU CAN'T DO THAT!" message.
[19:45] <tashiro> i am unable to run warcraft 3 on gutsy opengl doesent seem to be functioning any ideas?
[19:45] <Cannon> that makes plenty of sense! :P
[19:45] <Cannon> lol, you could dual boot windows tashiro
[19:45] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale im back
[19:46] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: how did you add a new user?
[19:46] <NickPresta> Cannon, and as said already, doing something like 'rm FILE' has no easy undo, which means you have most likely lost that file forever. Combine that with files that make your system run and you have a big problem :)
[19:46] <tashiro> I dont like windows all the antivirus checks, disk cleanups and watevas make me sick
[19:46] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale  sudo adduser myname
[19:47] <Cannon> heh
[19:47] <rabindra_> i am in a big trouble somehow some packages got marked for removal without my knowledge and got uninstalled while running adept even adept is not there in kmenu what do i do?
[19:47] <tashiro> which driver is the best for ATI 9200?
[19:48] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: maybe your file permissions got messed up when copying back.
[19:48] <pagan0ne> rabindra_ i think your about fscked....  ive heard its recoverable, but never managed to recover myself
[19:49] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale thats a possibility, what would you reccomend i chmod /home back to
[19:49] <chemist109> rabindra_: alt+F2 and start konsole
[19:49] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: I would run the following commands as root:
[19:49] <pagan0ne> pagan0ne im not exactly new to linux, but im dont remember alot of the intricate stuff
[19:49] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: chmod -R 755 /home/pagan0ne
[19:49] <chemist109> rabindra_: Then try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install adept
[19:50] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale im not exactly new to linux, but im dont remember alot of the intricate stuff
[19:50] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale thanx, ill try that
[19:50] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: chown -R pagan0ne:pagan0ne /home/pagan0ne
[19:50] <pagan0ne> well ill have my user try that, the computer is some 500 miles away from me, and i can no longer ssh into it myself as it lost its dialup connection
[19:50] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: chmod 644 /home/pagan0ne/.dmrc
[19:51] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: then reboot: shutdown -r now
[19:51] <rabindra_> chemist109: this is the error i get
[19:51] <rabindra_> rabindra@rabindra-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install adept
[19:51] <rabindra_> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[19:51] <chemist109> rabindra_: do that: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:51] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale just those 2?
[19:52] <chemist109> I've had to do that before during a screwed up install.
[19:52] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: those 3 + reboot = 4
[19:52] <rabindra_> chemist109: what next?
[19:52] <chemist109> rabindra_: I would then do sudo apt-get -f upgrade
[19:52] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale missed the chown
[19:53] <chemist109> oops!  I mean sudo apt-get -f install
[19:53] <chemist109> rabindra_: That is supposed to fix broken dependencies.
[19:54] <rabindra_> chemist109: but adept still doesn't appear
[19:55] <chemist109> rabindra_: Once you're finished with fixing dependencies, do this:  sudo apt-get install adept
[19:55] <chemist109> It should show up then.
[19:56] <shtoom> Hi i've lost audio after installing pdfedit on kubuntu
[19:56] <shtoom> I am running 7.10 on my laptop
[19:56] <chemist109> If you still can't find it, you can try sudo apt-get install --reinstall adept
[19:57] <rabindra_> chemist109: and so many other softwares also got lost, perhaps. i am not sure but so many packages were marked for removal and i closed adept in the process.
[19:58] <rabindra_> i am worried if some important dependencies and critical softwares also got removed!
[19:59] <shtoom> when I am trying to remove ghostscript it shows that kde will also be removed why is that ?
[19:59] <Fritzel> is dmesg cleared when you reboot?
[20:01] <fdoving> yes.
[20:01] <SlimeyPete> shtoom: presumably kubuntu-desktop depends on it
[20:01] <chemist109> rabindra_: I don't know what was removed, so I can't say what to do.  You could cat /var/log/dpkg.log and see what it says was removed.
[20:01] <SlimeyPete> perhaps kpdf uses it?
[20:01] <shtoom> SlimeyPete: in that case why it should remove whole kde desktop insted of removing just kpdf
[20:02] <SlimeyPete> shtoom: because kubuntu-desktop depends on kpdf (IIRC)
[20:02] <SlimeyPete> to be honest the dependencies in kubuntu are quite odd
[20:02] <chemist109> shtoom: why do you want to remove ghostscript?
[20:02] <SlimeyPete> kubuntu-desktop depends on a tonne of stuff, which can be annoying
[20:03] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale still no luck, any other ideas?
[20:03] <shtoom> chemist109: cause I got a feeling after running update-manager which did some updates related to ghost script i've lost audio
[20:04] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: hmm. did you get any errors running those commands as root? (sudo)
[20:04] <shtoom> SlimeyPete: this is real bad of not being able to remove one bad package
[20:04] <SlimeyPete> shtoom: yes, I know.
[20:04] <SlimeyPete> it has frustrated me before.
[20:05] <shtoom> I run updates every day, so any one recently reported of the losing audio ?
[20:05] <fdoving> SlimeyPete: isn't most of it changed to recommends? - which would mean you could uninstall some of the tonn without removing kubuntu-desktop itself.
[20:05] <chemist109> shtoom: Have you tried running alsamixer and playing with the sliders?  That has fixed things in the past for me.
[20:06] <SlimeyPete> fdoving: that may be the case, if it's a recent change
[20:06] <chemist109> shtoom: You could try reinstalling the package if you think that would help (I don't see what ghostscript has to do with audio, though).
[20:06] <SlimeyPete> I haven't had any problems recently
[20:07] <shtoom> chemist109:I've tried running alsamixer every thing running perfect but xmms or for that matter any other multimedia application won't play sound
[20:07] <nHawk> i recently installed kde4.. and it makes my processor to run al full speed.. and so my laptop heated up and my palms burning
[20:08] <chemist109> shtoom: Did you log out and back in?  That sometimes works too.
[20:08] <shtoom> all the media applications just hang trying to play audio
[20:08] <shtoom> chemist109:I did a reboot as well
[20:08] <fdoving> nHawk: my guess is that either strigidaemon or nepomuk server is eating your cpu. try alt+2 -> show system activity - see what uses most cpu.
[20:09] <mcgub> shtoom: i lost my audio in a recent upgrade as the kernel version was updated...i had to recompile my drivers
[20:09] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale no, no errors
[20:09] <nHawk> thnx fdoving
[20:09] <nHawk> rite now i m back in kde3.5
[20:09] <nHawk> :D
[20:09] <shtoom> mcgub:When you lost audio does it still identify your audio hardware  ?
[20:10] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: i'm out of ideas, sorry...
[20:10] <mcgub> only through command line...the mixer didn't see it
[20:10] <shtoom> mcgub: I mean does it show make & model in alsamixer and in kmixer ?
[20:10] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale is there a command line ppp utility included in 7.04?
[20:10] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale to where i can ssh back in myself to run commands directly?
[20:10] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale or a way to set it up to recive a dial-in connection?
[20:11] <fdoving> nHawk: you can stop nepomuk service at system settings -> advanced -> service manager -> select nepomuk server, hitthe stop button. you can also disable it by unticking the tickbox infront of it.
[20:11] <mcgub> shtoom: nothing at all
[20:11] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: I never used dialup, su dunno that either...
[20:11] <pagan0ne> anyone know if theres a way to dialup via command line in 7.04 without installing any more software?
[20:12] <shtoom> mcgub:but for me every thing shows up properly its just that players are not able to play sound
[20:12] <mcgub> shtoom: but the shiny new drivers made it all good
[20:12] <mcgub> shtoom: it would still point to drivers IMO
[20:12] <shtoom> mcgub:i've checked lsof |grep /dev/dsp nothing shows up so I think its good
[20:13] <rabindra_> chemist109: adept doesn't show all the search results that it showed before. bluefish editor got removed; now search doesn't show any result, i had already fetched updates
[20:13] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale thanks for your help
[20:13] <mcgub> shtoom: good luck then
[20:13] <user1> iam using tvtime with tv card Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01), i cant see the cable. no video no audio.further info : http://pastebin.com/m6986190e   any help please?
[20:13] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: this might help:
[20:14] <pagan0ne> whats the best way to create a new user via commandline?
[20:14] <Odd-rationale> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188
[20:14] <shtoom> even though ghost script got nothing to do with audio I've lost it only after installing pdfedit
[20:21] <shtoom> ha now I know its some hickup with alsa xmms is playing properly with OSS driver !
[20:23] <nHawk> hey.. i just installed kde4 in gutsy... and.. my kde4-kopete cannont connect to msn .. any ideas?.. however it can connect to googletalk
[20:25] <jussio1> nHawk: please use #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 support :)
[20:25] <martijn81> howto convert a 1920HD wmv movie with mencoder to mkv x264 720p?
[20:25] <nHawk> oh really.. thnx..
[20:27] <NickPresta> martijn81, sorry I didn't get back to you. I don't know of any GUI frontend to ffmpeg or mencoder off-hand. The command line interface is fairly simple and allows for total control. If you have time, you may want to use that instead.
[20:28] <martijn81> NickPresta: i have no idea how to control that from the command line
[20:28] <_pagan0ne> is there a easy way to tell kubuntu to reconfigure x by itself without having to download any packages?
[20:28] <BluesKaj> martijn81,ffmpeg is quite easy to use and if you google for a tutorial , there's some very informative ones
[20:28] <martijn81> _pagan0ne: sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:29] <_pagan0ne> thx
[20:29] <_pagan0ne> martijn81 will that also reconfigure kdm?
[20:29] <NickPresta> martijn81, try gtranscode (A GTK frontend to transcode)
[20:29] <martijn81> _pagan0ne: i don' t think so
[20:30] <BluesKaj> NickPresta, i find mencoder isn't particularly kind to the resolution of some video files.
[20:30] <supert0nes> anyone here tried linuxmint?
[20:30] <_pagan0ne> martijn81 how would i reconfigure that?
[20:30] <supert0nes> btw i'm a kubuntu user
[20:31] <NickPresta> BluesKaj, ah. I have only used it on smaller resolution videos. I found a few posts which show users using mencoder for x264 videos but I suppose YMMV definitely.
[20:31] <martijn81> _pagan0ne: dunno out the top of my head, but it is indeed possible
[20:31] <CrunchyFerrett> Ok. Im here. Now what?
[20:39] <jonathan_> Newbie question: I've just installed Kubuntu-desktop over ubuntu, but I still have the deafult ububtu OS, how do I activate the KDE desktop etc?
[20:40] <llutz> jonathan_: chose KDE as session in gdm/kdm
[20:43] <jonathan_> llutz - Where is gdm?
[20:43] <t3hwiz0rd> can anyone throw a bone with compiz-fusion?
[20:43] <t3hwiz0rd> i had it working all the way up till now, when i went to change display settings... now no window decorations, even after i reverted the settings.
[20:43] <CrunchyFerrett> Why would my Adept thingy keep telling me that something has locked the database? I just installed kubuntu like 10 minutes ago
[20:43] <SlimeyPete> !aptfix
[20:43] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:43] <llutz> jonathan_: thats the software-thing you use to login
[20:44]  * CrunchyFerrett tries
[20:44] <ct529> where is acrobat reader in the respositories. how is it called?
[20:44] <ct529> I cannot find it
[20:44] <chemist109> ct529: google medibuntu
[20:45] <CrunchyFerrett> wow
[20:45] <CrunchyFerrett> ok
[20:45] <CrunchyFerrett> now its asking me YES or NO and I dont even understand the question
[20:45] <CrunchyFerrett> is there a paste bucket or something so someone can look at this?
[20:45] <SlimeyPete> !paste
[20:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:46] <jonathan_> lluts - thought that while i was typin the question ...  Ta
[20:46] <CrunchyFerrett> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62868/
[20:47] <SlimeyPete> CrunchyFerrett: just hit enter
[20:47] <CrunchyFerrett> righto
[20:47] <SlimeyPete> whenever you see that question, if you're not sure then hit enter
[20:47] <ct529> chemist109: google mediwaht?
[20:47] <CrunchyFerrett> wow
[20:47] <SlimeyPete> it'll just leave your current configuration file in place
[20:47] <ct529> !acrobat
[20:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acrobat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:47] <CrunchyFerrett> that seems like the exact opposite of what I tell people to do
[20:47] <chemist109> ct529: http://www.medibuntu.org/
[20:48] <SlimeyPete> CrunchyFerrett: if it installs a new version, any modifications made to the file by you or another program/installer will be lost
[20:48] <SlimeyPete> so leaving the file alone is usually the safest option
[20:49] <CrunchyFerrett> well
[20:49] <CrunchyFerrett> its done
[20:49] <CrunchyFerrett> no idea WAHT it did
[20:49] <CrunchyFerrett> but it did it
[20:50] <iliya> If someone have problems with wireless, for me on 7.10 was  helpful this:
[20:50] <iliya> $ kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[20:50] <iliya> Dynamic IP - DHCP (recommended)
[20:50] <iliya> The content of the interfaces file should look like this:
[20:50] <iliya> iface ra0 inet dhcp
[20:50] <iliya> iface ra0 inet dhcp
[20:51] <iliya> instead ra0 wlan0
[20:51] <user1> iam using tvtime with tv card Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01), i cant see the cable. no video no audio.further info : http://pastebin.com/m6986190e   any help please?
[20:51] <ct529> chemist109: thanks! I downloaded it from adobe, just to show them we care about having a linux version ....
[20:51] <iliya> iface ra0 inet dhcp
[20:51] <iliya> auto ra0
[20:51] <CrunchyFerrett> ok
[20:52] <CrunchyFerrett> now how do I get back the screen that wanted to update my release to a new version?
[20:52] <_pagan0ne> does anyone know where kppp stores its config file?
[20:53] <iliya> If someone have problems with wireless, for me on 7.10 was  helpful this:
[20:53] <iliya> $ kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[20:53] <iliya> Dynamic IP - DHCP (recommended)
[20:53] <iliya> The content of the interfaces file should look like this:
[20:53] <iliya> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[20:53] <iliya> auto wlan0
[20:53] <iliya> bye
[20:54] <chemist109> CrunchyFerrett: If adept crashed during an upgrade to the next release, you can probably just use apt-get to finish the upgrade.
[20:55] <chemist109> It happened to me recently and I used: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install
[20:55] <chemist109> Then I did: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:56] <chemist109> CrunchyFerrett: Did it change your repositories to the new release ones?
[20:57] <CrunchyFerrett> ...
[20:57] <CrunchyFerrett> I have no idea
[20:58] <CrunchyFerrett> When I installed, it gave me a window saying "New release avail"
[20:58] <CrunchyFerrett> but after reboot, its not there
[20:59] <chemist109> CrunchyFerrett: You can use the instructions above safely even if you're not upgrading.  I would suggest you try them.
[21:00] <CrunchyFerrett> chemist109: Im sorry, but I think I missed any instructions you gave. Would you be kind enough to repeat them?
[21:00] <Coggz> hi
[21:01] <Coggz> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[21:01] <Coggz> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[21:01] <Coggz> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[21:01] <Coggz> what do i need to do?
[21:01] <martijn81> BluesKaj: do you happen to know the command to use to convert 1920x1080HD wmv to 720p x264 mkv HD?
[21:02] <Coggz> what do i need to do to correct that error
[21:04] <chemist109> CrunchyFerrett:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:06] <chemist109> Coggz: this should get the headers you seem to be missing: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev kdelibs-dev kde-devel
[21:07] <BluesKaj> martijn81, I'm quite sure the latest version of ffmeg can handle the conversion. ' ffmpeg -i Filename.avi -target dvd NewFilename.mpg ' where -i is the input file and target is the converted output
[21:07] <BluesKaj> ffmpeg
[21:07] <Coggz> thanks
[21:19] <matthew_> What package contians the "unique" command for bash scripting?
[21:19] <matthew_> sorry.. it's uniq, and its there..
[21:21] <Eberhard> ist jupe zuhaus?
[21:22] <jussio1> !de | Eberhard
[21:22] <ubotu> Eberhard: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[21:23] <Eberhard> danke
[21:26] <Coggz> how do i use a theme that ¡ compiled?
[21:27] <PhilRod> Coggz: make sure it's installed in the right place, and then look it up in system settings/control center
[21:27] <PhilRod> there's a nice section about it in the kde user guide at docs.kde.org
[21:27] <danny1> good evening
[21:31] <PhilRod> hi danny1
[21:34] <houmala> is there a NVU version for Kubuntu??
[21:36] <Coggz> ¡t ¡s not ¡n system settings
[21:38] <_pagan0ne> ok, i can startx as root, but as normal users x crashes
[21:39] <_pagan0ne> i think its a permission error somewhere, how would i fix it?
[21:40] <Coggz> how do ¡ find my theme?
[21:41] <Coggz> !theme
[21:41] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[21:41] <Coggz>  !changethemes
[21:41] <ubotu> To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[21:42] <_pagan0ne> ok, i can startx as root, but as normal users x crashes, i think its a permission error, can someone please help me?
[21:43] <Coggz> !X
[21:43] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[21:51] <_pagan0ne> Coggz, i tried that
[21:54] <aaroncampbell> Does anyone here have any experience connecting to a Windows VPN with Kubuntu?  I know Kvpnc is supposed to work with pptpd, but I'm having problems
[21:59] <luke__> Coggz
[22:00] <_pagan0ne> ok, i can startx as root, but as normal users x crashes, i think its a permission error, can someone please help me?
[22:01] <zasek> hej
[22:02] <zasek> jest tu kto?
[22:02] <jussio1> !pl | zasek
[22:02] <ubotu> zasek: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[22:03] <zasek> ???
[22:03] <zasek> english?
[22:03] <jussio1> zasek: english only in here :)
[22:03] <zasek> only?
[22:03] <chemist109> _pagan0ne: try startx as user and paste the output in a pastebin
[22:04] <jussio1> zasek: no polish. please use #ubuntu-pl
[22:04] <zasek> read , speak, write in english?
[22:05] <jussio1> zasek: correct. in this channel, please only write english
[22:06] <zasek> write in english language
[22:06] <zasek> wats wrong?
[22:06] <MachinatorSyver> /who freenode/staff/*
[22:06] <zasek> cizys
[22:07] <zasek> LINKIN PARK
[22:07] <corporeal> IS A BAND
[22:07] <zasek> ??
[22:10] <MachinatorSyver> Is there anyone avalible to help me solve a kubuntu installation problem?
[22:12] <elpez> hello im installing kubuntu from an alternate cd.... and i get a debootstrap warning... failure to install base packages...
[22:12] <elpez> on retry it says itll try 5 more times
[22:12] <elpez> and on retry i get the same message
[22:12] <elpez> im confused
[22:15] <jonathan_> Setup Question: How do i enable brightness up/down using function+up/down keys an a laptop? (it works fine with ubuntu)
[22:19] <Coggz> bye all
[22:23] <MachinatorSyver> Hi, could someone help me with an installation problem?
[22:24] <Odd-rationale> MachinatorSyver: what is the problem?
[22:24] <MachinatorSyver> well, I had kubuntu on my computer before
[22:25] <MachinatorSyver> but I installed a game for linux and it killed my video card.  In the process of trying to figure out what was wrong I formatted my computer and thats how I only have windowsxp now
[22:25] <MachinatorSyver> I have a new card but my live cd when boon in graphics safe mode gives a bunch of IO errors
[22:26] <MachinatorSyver> and doesnt start up
[22:26] <MachinatorSyver> heres a picture http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/aethergyver/0411081010.jpg
[22:26] <Daisuke_Ido> a game *killed* your graphics card?  i find that real tough to buy
[22:26] <MachinatorSyver> well the problem didnt start until after the game crashed
[22:26] <Daisuke_Ido> were you running the game from a livecd?
[22:27] <MachinatorSyver> and then the problem wasn't fixed even after a format until I put in a new card
[22:27] <MachinatorSyver> no
[22:27] <Daisuke_Ido> okay...  then...  squashfs?
[22:27] <MachinatorSyver> huh?
[22:27] <Daisuke_Ido> hat picture
[22:27] <Daisuke_Ido> that*
[22:28] <MachinatorSyver> what about it
[22:28] <MachinatorSyver> I don't know what squashfs means
[22:28] <Daisuke_Ido> was that picture taken trying to boot from a livecd?
[22:28] <MachinatorSyver> yes
[22:28] <MachinatorSyver> in graphics safe mode
[22:29] <Daisuke_Ido> apparently it had quite a few problems not even related to graphics...
[22:29] <MachinatorSyver> I used that CD before to install kubuntu before I formatted my computer
[22:29] <MachinatorSyver> that makes me sad
[22:30] <Daisuke_Ido> you can burn a new cd
[22:30] <Daisuke_Ido> you aren't limited to just one :)
[22:30] <MachinatorSyver> I know, I just assumed since that CD worked before, it would work again
[22:30] <Piero_Scaruffi> Daisuke_Ido HAI D:
[22:30] <Piero_Scaruffi> KOnnichiWA
[22:30] <Daisuke_Ido> it should have...
[22:30] <Piero_Scaruffi> Mushi Mushi
[22:30] <Daisuke_Ido> Piero_Scaruffi, do i know you?
[22:31] <Piero_Scaruffi> wakarimaska
[22:31] <Daisuke_Ido> that's a no.
[22:31] <Piero_Scaruffi> no Ido-san
[22:31] <Piero_Scaruffi> i dont think so
[22:32] <MachinatorSyver> so you think if I burn another CD i'll have better luck?
[22:33] <Daisuke_Ido> i think it's possible
[22:33] <Daisuke_Ido> is that shot from after replacing the video card?
[22:33] <MachinatorSyver> yes, before I would get a totally different screen from the boot disk
[22:33] <MachinatorSyver> that I had no idea how to navigate
[22:34] <Daisuke_Ido> define totally different?
[22:34] <MachinatorSyver> well you know how theres like 5 or so options 2 being normal boot and graphics safe boot?
[22:35] <MachinatorSyver> the other screen had probably over 20 options none of which were graphics safe boot
[22:35] <Daisuke_Ido> odd
[22:36] <_myrtille_> .q
[22:36] <Gazel> How can I install Compiz Fusion on Kubuntu 7.10 ?
[22:36] <MachinatorSyver> well, I'll try makeing another CD
[22:37] <Daisuke_Ido> !compiz | Gazel
[22:37] <ubotu> Gazel: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:38] <mEck0> Hi! is there a specific compiz manager for KDE? or which package should I install?
[22:39] <cracko> mEck0: you can find manager for compiz in synaptic
[22:40] <mEck0> cracko: thx
[22:40] <cracko> but remember that it should be manager for kde :)
[22:41] <jonathan_> Newbie question: kubuntu fn+up/down doesn't work to change brightness on Dell laptop
[22:49] <stond> can someone tell me where to or how to install AAC codec so I can convert video for my PSP
[22:49] <jussio1> !codecs | stond
[22:49] <ubotu> stond: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:50] <Odd-rationale> stond: convert to aac?
[22:53] <stond> Odd-rationale When I try to covert using several different programs and sripts and software It keeps telling me aac codec unknown what can I do to fix this
[22:53] <mv0> simpserver a bit buggy with kopete?
[22:53] <Odd-rationale> stond: if less than 100mb, you can try an online resource: http://zamzar.com/
[22:55] <stond> They are not they are over they are episoddes of the 1990 animated X-Men series
[22:56] <Odd-rationale> stond: maybe this might help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/AAC
[22:57] <stond> does anybody know where do get aac codec for linux so I can convert video for watchinng on my PSP
[22:58] <jussio1> stond: try installing kubuntu-restricted-extras (as the page i sent you says...)
[22:59] <SlimeyPete> stond: I googled and found this, looks useful: http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/08/30/ipod-video-howto
[22:59] <damien__> Hi
[22:59] <damien__> Can someone here help me?
[23:00] <damien__> Can anyone help me?
[23:00] <jussio1> !ask | damien__
[23:00] <ubotu> damien__: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:00] <damien__> Can someone help me install pidgin?
[23:01] <Adpad> how do i query a website from the console - like to send a cellular phone text message from a web portal?
[23:01] <SlimeyPete> damien__: you can install it from adept if you have a recent version of kubuntu
[23:01] <jussio1> damien__: open, adept. find and select pidgin, click install, click apply.
[23:01] <damien__> I do, but it says that there's some package error.
[23:02] <jussio1> damien__: what error?
[23:02] <damien__> Hold on
[23:03] <damien__> "There was an error committing changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."
[23:03] <jussio1> damien__: are you on hardy or gutsy?
[23:03] <damien__> I have no clue
[23:03] <damien__> How would I find out?
[23:03] <jussio1> !version
[23:03] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[23:03] <damien__> Okay
[23:04] <damien__> Eh
[23:04] <damien__> How do I open a !shell?
[23:04] <Odd-rationale> !shell
[23:04] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[23:04] <jussio1> damien__: go to system -> konsole
[23:04] <damien__> Okay
[23:05] <damien__> It gives me this error:
[23:05] <damien__> "
[23:05] <damien__> damien@damien-desktop:~$ lsb_release - a
[23:05] <damien__> Usage: lsb_release [options]
[23:05] <damien__> lsb_release: error: No arguments are permitted
[23:05] <jussio1> damien__: no space befor the a
[23:05] <damien__> Oh ok
[23:05] <damien__> Ubuntu 7.10, Gutsy
[23:06] <SlimeyPete> make sure you update adept first
[23:06] <damien__> How do I do that? God, I'm such a noob at this >_>
[23:06] <SlimeyPete> I can't remember what the button's called though >.<
[23:06] <SlimeyPete> Refresh?
[23:06] <damien__> :X
[23:07]  * SlimeyPete isn't on kubuntu at the moment
[23:07] <SlimeyPete> there's a button on the top panel
[23:07] <jussio1> fetch updates
[23:07] <jussio1> ;)
[23:07] <SlimeyPete> that's the one
[23:07]  * Ralesk wonders if there's a ppa of whatever's current in the 4.1 line of KDE
[23:08] <damien__> I don't see a fetch updates button...
[23:09] <jussio1> damien__: have you opened adept ?
[23:09] <damien__> Yes
[23:09] <SlimeyPete> what buttons do you see?
[23:09] <jussio1> damien__: should be top left
[23:10] <damien__> It says Search: (input field) Any Suite (dropdown box)
[23:10] <SlimeyPete> above that
[23:10] <jussio1> damien, no, above those
[23:10] <jussio1> hehe
[23:10] <damien__> Nothing
[23:10] <damien__> That's the upper most thing
[23:10] <jussio1> damien__: go to settings and untick hide toolbar
[23:11] <damien__> There's no settings option either >_>
[23:11] <jussio1> damien__: close it. I think you are in add remove programs.
[23:11] <jussio1> then go to kmenu, sustem, adept manager
[23:12] <damien__> Ah okay
[23:12] <damien__> Okay, fetch updates, then what?
[23:12] <jussio1> now try install
[23:13] <dimon> ky
[23:13] <jussio1> !kde4 > Ralesk
[23:13] <damien__> Same error :/
[23:14] <jussio1> damien__: ok, close adept, and go to konsole
[23:14] <Ralesk> jussio1: yes, I know
[23:14] <damien__> Okay I'm in Konsole
[23:14] <jussio1> damien__: type this exactly (copy paste is a good idea): sudo apt-get install -f
[23:15] <Ralesk> jussio1: before 4.0 was released, for a good time some svn builds were available via PPA.  I'm wondering if there's someone who bothered to set up a PPA for the current trunk yet this time around
[23:15] <damien__> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[23:15] <damien__> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[23:15] <jussio1> damien__: close adept ;)
[23:15] <Cannon> i guys i need help opening a port ... according to my iptables it's open for both tcp and udp (irc server 6667) ... but when I check at www.canyouseeme.org it says "connection refused"
[23:15] <damien__> Oh, oops
[23:16] <damien__> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[23:16] <jussio1> Cannon: your router is probably blocking it/not forwarding it
[23:16] <Ralesk> Cannon: Are you behind NAT?
[23:16] <damien__> That's what happens when I do that.
[23:16] <Cannon> am sure my router is fine ... let me check
[23:17] <jussio1> damien__: ok. now type: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:17] <Cannon> Protocol	Port Range	Translate To ...	Trigger Protocol	Trigger Port
[23:17] <Cannon> Any	6667 - 7000	6667 - 7000	-	-
[23:17] <damien__> jussio1: There's an error
[23:17] <Cannon> router is ok according to that, right?
[23:17] <damien__> jussio1: E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[23:17] <jussio1> damien__: have you added any repositores?
[23:18] <damien__> I don't know >_>
[23:18] <damien__> Maybe
[23:18] <damien__> How would I be able to tell?
[23:18] <kayla_> I have a dell inspiron and I am having trouble getting the multimedia card reader to work. I bought the computer with ubuntu on it, but then replaced it with kubuntu.  is their a program i need to dl to get them to work?
[23:18] <jussio1> damien__: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:18] <jussio1> !paste | damien__
[23:18] <ubotu> damien__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[23:20] <damien__> jussio1: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62891/
[23:21] <jussio1> oh, bleh
[23:21] <damien__> What?
[23:22] <damien__> Did I do something wrong? >_>
[23:22] <Cannon> so if my router is showing that it's open and iptables what else can it be?
[23:23] <Ralesk> Cannon: are you forwarding those ports to your computer's IP address, or just "having them open", whatever that means?
[23:24] <damien__> jussio1: Did I mess something up?
[23:24] <jussio1> damien__: wait a moment please
[23:24] <Cannon> to Mikey-PC ... but i dunno if that is an old windows name or router
[23:24] <damien__> jussio1: Okay
[23:24] <Illusion> hello
[23:24] <Cannon> @ Ralesk
[23:25] <Ralesk> hmm, I'd guess it's better to call the computer by its IP address :)
[23:25] <Illusion> I was installing Kubuntu desktop live CD. its boots pefect from cd. There's an option available to copy the distro to a hdd or usb stick, anybody aware of it generates an error and warnings while booting from HDD? Afterwards it stops
[23:26] <jonathan_>  help - fn+up/down hotkeys doesn't work in gutsy? (laptop brightness)
[23:27] <Cannon> i'll have a see
[23:29] <jussio1> damien__: please try replacing your sources with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62892/
[23:29] <Cannon> Ralesk: does this mean anything to you "Can't find the server IP address: Valid name but the host has no IP address"
[23:29] <jussio1> damien__: before you do, you havent installed kde4 have you?
[23:29] <damien__> I have no clue if I did or not
[23:29] <damien__> I think I tried
[23:29] <Cannon> i'm managing the dns with no-ip and I know for a fact that its directly to my ip Ralesk
[23:29] <jussio1> damien__: I dont think you did.  ;)
[23:30] <Illusion> anybody?
[23:30] <jussio1> Illusion: gutsy or hardy?
[23:30] <Illusion> gutsy
[23:30] <damien__> jussio1: should I?
[23:30] <jussio1> damien__: no
[23:30] <Illusion> various errors like:
[23:31] <Ralesk> hardly o.O  if it's supposed to be connected and reachable... it really should have an address
[23:31] <damien__> jussio1: I get another error when trying to replace my sources, saying it was not possible to write to that location.
[23:31] <Ralesk> I'm confused by your network, Cannon :)
[23:31] <jussio1> damien__: you need to use: kdsudo kate
[23:31] <Cannon> Ralesk: this is my router http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Thomson-Alcatel/Speedtouch780v6/Speedtouch780v6index.htm
[23:31] <Illusion> anacron, cron, crond, atd, /share/acpi, /etc/acpi
[23:32] <damien__> jussio1: what do you mean I need to use kdsudo kate?
[23:32] <damien__> jussio1: I have the sources open in kate
[23:33] <sourcemaker> I have configured virtualbox for host only... but I receive the error message:
[23:33] <sourcemaker> Warning - failed to create the interface vbox0 for the user vboxusers
[23:33] <jussio1> damien__: in konsole, type: kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:33] <jussio1> sourcemaker: go look on virtual box's site, thats in their faq's
[23:34] <Cannon> [23:31:02] Contacting IRC server <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>) on port 6667
[23:34] <Cannon> [23:32:02] [SOCKET ERROR]: Connection timed out @ ralesk
[23:34] <damien__> jussio1: Okay, now what do I do?
[23:34] <jussio1> damien__: replace the sources...
[23:34] <Cannon> this is really getting me aggitated
[23:34] <damien__> jussio1: I know :P I meant after that
[23:35] <Ralesk> Cannon: all I know is that you're probably reaching the router, but it can't forward the packets to the computer for whatever reason
[23:35] <Ralesk> it's totally weird that said computer doesn't have an IP address
[23:35] <Cannon> lol, yeah
[23:36] <jussio1> damien__: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:36] <Cannon> interesting development ... it's no longer "refused" ... just timing out now
[23:36] <Cannon> so surely that means the ports are open?
[23:37] <Ralesk> yeah, I guess so
[23:37] <Cannon> so what next? lol
[23:38] <Illusion> jussi01, what do you think about these errors? Ive installed it with oem setup
[23:38] <damien__> jussio1: It keeps asking me to insert my kubuntu CD, and I have it inserted
[23:38] <Ralesk> well, I don't know about your LAN, but that computer you're trying to forward to, look into it why it doesn't have at least a LAN IP address (say, 192.168.x.y)
[23:39] <Illusion> *and i haven't updated it yet, with apt-get
[23:39] <Cannon> it does
[23:39] <Cannon> i just can't remember it! lol
[23:39] <Cannon> am used to windows so I have no idea how to look it up on linux
[23:40] <Cannon> i do recall it starting with 192 though
[23:40] <Ralesk> ifconfig :)
[23:40] <jussio1> Illusion: which errors?
[23:40] <Cannon> ta
[23:40] <Cannon> i'll have a lookie
[23:40] <damien__> jussio1: It's still asking me to insert the CD and press enter, which I have done but it still asks
[23:40] <Cannon> why not ipconfig? lol
[23:41] <jussio1> damien__: please use that kdesudo command again and remove the line about the cd.
[23:41] <jussio1> damien__: to stop the update press ctrl+c
[23:41] <damien__> jussio1: what was the kdesudo command? O_o
[23:42] <Cannon> could it be <IP_ADDRESS> Ralesk?
[23:42] <Illusion> jussi01 im reinstalling it atm with normal setup
[23:42] <Ralesk> Cannon: <IP_ADDRESS> is localhost, so no
[23:42] <jussio1> damien__: kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:42] <Cannon> lol
[23:42] <Cannon> <<< noob :P
[23:42] <Cannon> how about this one :P  <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:42] <jussio1> damien__: and Illusion, I need to run. im sorry. :/
[23:43] <Ralesk> Cannon: ifconfig because it's "interface" -- it could be setup to a non-IP network for all we care :)
[23:43] <Illusion> np it's ok
[23:43] <Ralesk> that looks good, Cannon
[23:43] <damien__> Uh
[23:43] <damien__> I need more help :X
[23:44] <VousDeux> !hardy status
[23:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hardy status - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:44] <jussio1> damien__: just remve that line, then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:44] <jussio1> damien__: then try installing again
[23:44] <jussio1> VousDeux: go look at the topic in #ubuntu+1
[23:44] <jussio1> now im really going
[23:44] <VousDeux> jussi01: thanks
[23:45] <Illusion> cya jussi01
[23:45] <Cannon> hey Ralesk ... i typed that lan address and it changed it to Mikey-PC so am assuming thats the one
[23:46] <Cannon> !pastebin
[23:46] <damien__> E: Type '(20071016.1)]/' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[23:46] <Ralesk> ah, "intelligent" UI on the router, I see :P
[23:46] <Cannon> lol
[23:46] <Cannon> if I put the contents of my iptables in pastebin would that be a silly idea?
[23:48] <Ralesk> doubtful :)  give it a spin
[23:48] <damien__> How do I run apt-setup in konsole?
[23:48] <Cannon> ZOMG!
[23:48] <Cannon> some updates have disappeared! lol
[23:49] <Cannon> have a lookie pls Ralesk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62895/
[23:49] <damien__> nickpresta: how do I run apt-setup in konsole?
[23:49] <Cannon> i know I added the ports earlier
[23:49] <Cannon> must have lost em on reboot
[23:49] <rickest> damien__: there is no apt-setup, you mean aptitude?
[23:50] <damien__> rickest: No, when I try to run add or remove programs, it tells me that theres an error and to run apt setup in terminal
[23:50] <Ralesk> Cannon: yes, the IRC range seems to be missing altogether
[23:50] <Cannon> lol
[23:50] <Ralesk> I think there's an iptables-save and an iptables-restore command that can... you guess it what they do :P
[23:50] <damien__> rickest: An incorrect APT configuration seems to be the problem
[23:50] <Cannon> you couldn't give me the exact code to add both tcp and udp could you please Ralesk ... i don't wanna make any mistakes
[23:51] <rickest> damien__: no idea what it means, sorry. 'sudo aptitude' might tell you but you should probably ask someone who knows
[23:51] <Ralesk> it's been quite a long time since I've last used iptables and I'm quite rusty, sorry
[23:52] <Ralesk> though to be honest, behind NAT, unless you forward everything to the computer, there's little use of iptables or another packet filter in the first place...
[23:52] <damien__> I think I fixed it
[23:53] <Cannon> so there is an alternative to iptables ... a GUI would be nice
[23:53] <Cannon> ! :P
[23:53] <acme64> howdy
[23:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about p - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:53] <Cannon> lol
[23:54] <kbmaniac> opps - didnot mean to do that
[23:54] <acme64> how do i upfgrade to 8.04
[23:55] <acme64> from here
[23:56] <monkeybritches_> You might want to wait a couple more weeks
[23:57] <Cannon> it's due out on the 24th i think
[23:58] <acme64> naa ill upgrade now
[23:58] <acme64> figured it out on the site
[23:58] <Cannon> :P
[23:58] <damien__> What exactly does "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" do?
[23:58] <sourcemaker> virtualbox crashed my windows 2003 server installation....
[23:58] <Cannon> the first one makes sure your respositories are upto date damien__
[23:59] <Cannon> maybe repositories isn't the right word
[23:59] <VousDeux> man, I haven't done any updates or anything for so long I guess I'm skiddish...evidentally my adept has been broken since October, so I'm way behind
[23:59] <Cannon> like checking for upgrades
[23:59] <damien__> Ah
[23:59] <damien__> ok
[23:59] <Cannon> i prefer synaptic to adept
[23:59] <damien__> Well it takes a long time to update :|
[23:59] <Cannon> and October is ages ago! lol