[08:53] <glick> ok i think i discovered some serious bugs!
[08:54] <Lafitte-> bob2,   heh ei had it mounted   doh!
[08:55] <glick> why am i getting I/O errors on my firewire drive
[08:55] <glick> it worked perfectly in debian
[08:55] <glick> as did my usb stick
[08:55] <glick> now they are both acting up
[08:55] <glick> what gives?
[08:56] <stalagna> bystander: it looks like i can get into KDE
[08:56] <Orbo> help with dual boot
[08:56] <stalagna> but I get a blank screen at GNOME
[08:56] <Orbo> ubuntu recognized it during install
[08:56] <Orbo> but it won't let me access it
[08:56] <Orbo> I have an SATA hdd if that matters
[08:57] <bystander> stalagna: it *might* be a sound server issue in gnome
[08:57] <IIIEars> how do you use apt-get to update the signing key?
[08:57] <stalagna> i am just going with a reinstall
[08:57] <stalagna> i just installed it tonight, dont have anything to lose
[08:58] <stalagna> thanks for your help
[08:58] <bystander> stalagna: I doubt that's necessary
[08:58] <stalagna>  what do you suggest?
[08:59] <bystander> stalagna: I can't recall the command, but someone else might know how to turn off the sound server for gnome: you *could* try typing"killall esd"
[08:59] <ubuntu> hi, i am new to linux and i would like some help please.
[08:59] <IIIEars> glick - give me the USB stick model maybe i can turn something up.
[08:59] <glick> IIIEars, it has no model its a generic flash usb stick
[08:59] <glick> also i have a Y200 external firewire drive
[09:00] <IIIEars> Okay - i'm beaten
[09:00] <glick> what happens is this
[09:00] <ubuntu> i recently installed ubuntu on my windows pc. i install it without any problems set it for dual boot with xp, xp still works but if i load ubuntu it tells me x-server cannot be loaded and i'm stuck with no GUI
[09:00] <stalagna> i will worry about it later, thanks for your help
[09:00] <IIIEars> "Y200" - give me a few minutes
[09:00] <ubuntu> can anyone point me in the right direction ?
[09:00] <bystander> stalagna: OK - good luck then
[09:01] <glick> when i copy large amounts of data from the drive, to the local drive the machine reads as much as it can to memory, then it pauses the read to write the data to disk, then when it wants to resume and read more data, i get I/O failure
[09:01] <glick> there is nothing wrong with this disk
[09:01] <glick> worked perfectly only a few hours ago under debian
[09:02] <glick> Maxtor 6  Model: Y200P0
[09:02] <glick> firewire
[09:02] <ubuntu> may i request some help please...
[09:02] <Orbo> I've looked through the forums, and I can't find anything relating to my problem
[09:02] <Orbo> SATA partitioned for ubuntu and xp
[09:03] <Orbo> xp won't boot even though it was recognized and added to grub's boot.conf
[09:03] <cyphase> has anyone here heard of aipbot?
[09:03] <ubuntu> orbo i have the exact opposite problem
[09:03] <ubuntu> my ubuntu won't work properly
[09:03] <Orbo> did you install ubuntu first?
[09:03] <ubuntu> nah xp
[09:03] <Orbo> weird
[09:03] <Orbo> anyways
[09:04] <ubuntu> ubuntu tells me that
[09:04] <ubuntu> x-server cannot be loaded
[09:04] <ubuntu> so i have no gui..
[09:04] <Orbo> fun, are you on iirc or windows xchat
[09:04] <ubuntu> i'm on mIRC
[09:04] <Orbo> ah
[09:04] <ubuntu> i really need some help
[09:05] <ubuntu> but no one is responding
[09:05] <Orbo> yeah, theyll get around to it, theyve helped me quite a bit in the past when I was just starting out
[09:05] <ubuntu> orbo, did you ever have a problem with x-server
[09:05] <Orbo> nope
[09:06] <ubuntu> im stuck with a plain black screen andwhite command interface
[09:06] <ubuntu> crappy
[09:06] <bystander> ubuntu: try `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`  (if this is ubuntu 5.04 )
[09:06] <ubuntu> is that what i type?
[09:06] <Orbo> a wonderful command bystander
[09:06] <Orbo> yeah
[09:06] <ubuntu> k let me writethat down
[09:06] <bystander> ubuntu: yes
[09:06] <ubuntu> one minute
[09:06] <Orbo> itll let you configure your xorg.conf file
[09:06] <IIIEars> glick - (shrug)
[09:06] <bystander> without the back ticks of course
[09:06] <DJ-Bug> can some one help a first time user havin trouble booting up please?
[09:06] <glick> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/307482
[09:06] <ubuntu> what do i change in the .conf file?
[09:06] <glick> that is my problem
[09:07] <ubuntu> im a linux newb
[09:07] <hubidubi> hi
[09:07] <Orbo> if youre a newb then you shouldnt change anything
[09:07] <bystander> ubuntu: that command will ask questions - you answer them
[09:07] <ubuntu> well it isn't working as is
[09:07] <ubuntu> oh ok great
[09:07] <Orbo> reconfigure will do everything for you
[09:07] <hubidubi> how can I access non gnome applications from menu?
[09:07] <ubuntu> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:07] <ubuntu> is that correct?
[09:07] <bystander> yes
[09:08] <Orbo> aye
[09:08] <Orbo> bystander
[09:08] <ubuntu> k gonna print it now ill let you know how it goes
[09:08] <Orbo> are you familiar with dual booting?
[09:08] <bystander> ubuntu: it will ask for your password
[09:08] <ubuntu> yes
[09:08] <ubuntu> i know the password
[09:08] <glick> well!
[09:08] <bystander> ubuntu: if this is warty, the command is different
[09:09] <ubuntu> it is the uh
[09:09] <glick> i gues i have no choice but to compile a kernel from scratch!
[09:09] <hubidubi> is there a menu similar than in debian for non gnome apps?
[09:09] <ubuntu> hedgehog ?
[09:09] <bystander> ubuntu: I assume you have the recent release
[09:09] <glick> the latest vanilla kernel
[09:09] <bystander> hoary hedgehog, yes
[09:09] <ubuntu> mine is the hedge hog
[09:09] <DJ-Bug> i just installed ubuntu and it reset my pc and it dose the dos stuff then just leave a blank empty screen on my pc
[09:09] <DJ-Bug> ?
[09:09] <ubuntu> so this cmd will work
[09:09] <bystander> OK
[09:09] <bystander> yes
[09:09] <ubuntu> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:09] <bystander> yup
[09:09] <ubuntu> k be right back then
[09:09] <ubuntu> thanks much
[09:09] <ubuntu> oh btw
[09:09] <bystander> good luck :)
[09:09] <ubuntu> how do i get on irc on linux
[09:09] <ubuntu> <no idea>
[09:10] <bystander> ubuntu: use xchat (instlled by default)
[09:10] <ubuntu> kk
[09:10] <bystander> *installed
[09:10] <ubuntu> thank you
[09:10] <ubuntu> bye
[09:10] <glick> is there a easy howto for ubuntu?
[09:10] <Orbo> ubuntuguide.org is nice
[09:10] <glick> or is it done the same way a debian kernel is compiled?
[09:10] <IIIEars> Ubuntu - If all else fails this may work.  ctrl+alt+backspace (kills any xserver before you dpkg another)   in the terminal "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  (just follow the yes and prompts a little experimentation  about options framebufer or no. dri or no glx or no. VOILA! gnome desktop)
[09:10] <bystander> glick: same
[09:11] <Orbo> bystander
[09:11] <bystander> glick: but why compile a kernel?
[09:11] <IIIEars> Ubuntu - still there? - heh
[09:11] <Orbo> are you familiar with dual booting, bystander?
[09:12] <bystander> Orbo: I have a triple boot here, so yes, sort of :)
[09:12] <IIIEars> bystander - get a two for one bonus. - same trouble with my rig.
[09:12] <DJ-Bug> ?
[09:12] <glick> bystander, bystander i need 2.6.11-9
[09:12] <bystander> I see
[09:13] <Orbo> bystander, I'm having trouble with an xp and ubuntu dual boot
[09:13] <glick> bystander, apparently some of these externel firewire drives have faulty controller cards that the .9 kernel can work around
[09:13] <prasad> the system time i.e in bios is different that what my ubuntu shows?
[09:13] <prasad> any help?
[09:13] <glick> i think i know why my usb stick isnt working
[09:13] <IIIEars> glick - maybe it's just me but 2.6.11 didn't work very well.
[09:13] <bystander> Orbo: that's kind of vague...
[09:13] <Orbo> bystander, I've got an sata drive with both OS's installed, ubuntu recognized it, yet XP won't load
[09:14] <glick> the assholes at the school lab where i work, set restrictions on their windows machine so you cant safely remove usb devices
[09:14] <glick> the asswipe assured me that it was safe to just log out and pull it out
[09:14] <IIIEars> Orbo - what error do you see?
[09:14] <DJ-Bug> can any one help me ?
[09:14] <Orbo> IIIEars, hold on
[09:14] <glick> apparently it currupted my usbstick so i cant read it on linux machines
[09:14] <bystander> Orbo: sata can cuse issues, but I know nothing about that, sorry
[09:14] <bystander> *cause
[09:14] <Orbo> IIIEars, brb
[09:14] <Orbo> I'll go check
[09:15] <DJ-Bug> > i just installed ubuntu and it reset my pc and it dose the dos stuff then just leave a blank empty screen on my pc
[09:15] <vince_> can anyone tell me how to make gphoto recognize olympus stylus 300 digital camera? it is present as a storage device, but not recognized as a camera... thanks
[09:15] <bystander> later all, gotta go ...
[09:15] <IIIEars> DJ-bug - yeppers "" the "Grub" bootloader problems.
[09:16] <IIIEars> bystander No--ooo!
[09:16] <IIIEars> 3 people here with basically the same question and you managed to set up a triple boot system.
[09:16] <JohnnyRotten> does anyone know why after installing ubuntu after everything loads the screen just goes blank
[09:16] <Orbo> IIIEars:  root hd(0,0)
[09:17] <Madpilot> Is there a "Ubuntu/Linux architecture for dummies" page out there somewhere?
[09:17] <Orbo> Error 24: attempting to access block outside of partition
[09:18] <xb> erm.. how would i use apt-get or aptitude to install gtk?
[09:18] <Madpilot> I know it's linux kernel --> a bunch of stuff --> visible desktop :) but I'd like to fill in the large gaps in that little diagram...
[09:18] <Orbo> xb, first 'sudo apt-cache search gtk'
[09:18] <xb> im thinking there should be one thing i can type to install it easily
[09:18] <darGor> anyone can help me? how i can change a .ogg file to a .mp3 ? my mp3 discman can play .ogg files.
[09:18] <Orbo> then choose what you want 'sudo apt-get install nameofpackage'
[09:19] <IIIEars> Orbo - something like "grub-install (plus command to assign mbr) (plus some command to assign directory where menu.lst is stored)
[09:20] <glick> it must be a kernel issue right?
[09:20] <glick> i mean this disk worked perfectly in -9
[09:20] <Orbo> IIIEars, that doesn't help much, assign mbr?
[09:20] <Orbo> assign directory to the menu.lst in /boot/grub?
[09:21] <xb> can i type a lot of packages seperated by spaces?
[09:21] <JohnnyRotten> anyone have any idea what might cause the screen to just go black when first loading on a fresh install?
[09:21] <Orbo> xb, no, iirc
[09:21] <IIIEars> Help? - bah - i was hoping you knew it. (sigh)
[09:21] <IIIEars> lol
[09:21] <Orbo> nooooooooooo!
[09:21] <Orbo> 'mimics vader walk'
[09:22] <xb> heh whats iirc have to do with this?
[09:22] <xb> :)
[09:22] <IIIEars> Eh, oh well (shrug)
[09:22] <Orbo> iirc=if i remember correctly xb
[09:24] <Raskall> can I tell tar to skipp hardlinked files when creating a tar archive?
[09:24] <Raskall> -p
[09:24] <ubuntu> ok, im back
[09:24] <ubuntu> i did the x-server reconfigure.
[09:24] <ubuntu> it told me that
[09:24] <gromf> hello everybody
[09:25] <ubuntu> warning: overwriting possibly customized configuration file /etc/x11/xorg-conf.20050
[09:25] <ubuntu> also, i have onboard video on my motherboard and an ati card ( pci express ) how do i find out the pci-bus of the ati card
[09:27] <Seveas> ubuntu, lspci
[09:27] <ubuntu> lspci?
[09:27] <Seveas> yeaj
[09:27] <Seveas> type that in a terminal :)
[09:27] <ubuntu> i don't understand
[09:27] <ubuntu> i can't get to a terminal
[09:27] <ubuntu> x-server won't load
[09:27] <glick> excuse me i have a question is it a known issue that many external firewire drives dont work correctly when transfering large amounts of data, crashing or causing the kernel to seemingly freeze waiting for them because of faulty controller chips ?
[09:27] <Seveas> well, then just in the console (that's where you are without X-server)
[09:27] <ubuntu> lspci
[09:28] <ubuntu> that does that tell me?
[09:28] <Seveas> that will tell you the PCI bus contents
[09:28] <ubuntu> would entering an incorrect value give me the error i pasted
[09:28] <ubuntu> ?
[09:28] <Seveas> glick, try mounting it sync (or if it is sync, mount it asyncO
[09:28] <Seveas> ubuntu, no idea
[09:29] <ubuntu> k i will go try that
[09:29] <ubuntu> bystander.
[09:29] <ubuntu> need some help buddy :-)
[09:29] <ubuntu> i tried the reconfigure
[09:29] <ubuntu> i told me:
[09:30] <ubuntu> xserver-xorg post inst warning:overwriting possibly customized configuration file /etc/x11/x-org.conf.20050
[09:30] <ubuntu> how do i resolve that
[09:31] <bystander> it's just a warning as far as I can see
[09:31] <Seveas> ubuntu, back up your xorg.conf
[09:31] <ubuntu> but then it still won't let me on
[09:31] <lobo_> how do i get raid0 software to work on the installer?
[09:31] <bystander> did you go ahead?
[09:31] <ubuntu> bystander
[09:31] <ubuntu> but then it still won'tl oad x-org
[09:31] <ubuntu> wont load x-org*
[09:31] <bystander> ubuntu: did you answer the questions?
[09:31] <ubuntu> x-server
[09:31] <ubuntu> yea i did
[09:31] <ubuntu> i have a question.
[09:32] <ubuntu> i have onboard video chip (intel) and a much better ati ( pci express video card)
[09:32] <ubuntu> is that causing this problem?
[09:32] <bystander> it might be confused about which card to use
[09:32] <bystander> dunno
[09:32] <ubuntu> it asks me for the pci-bus
[09:32] <ubuntu> and i have no idea what to tell it
[09:32] <bystander> ignore that
[09:32] <xb> ehh.. so there's no way i can install all of gtk in just a couple lines?
[09:33] <bystander> you don't need to answer that one
[09:33] <ubuntu> it does see the ati card and asks me if the model is correct
[09:33] <ubuntu> and it is
[09:33] <ubuntu> ok. then i have no idea how to get x-server to work then :-(
[09:33] <bystander> maybe you can disable the other card in BIOS
[09:33] <ubuntu> whichone
[09:33] <ubuntu> which one
[09:34] <ubuntu> i'm sure i have the intel already disabled
[09:34] <ubuntu> because i use the ati
[09:34] <bystander> ubuntu: whichever you don't want to use
[09:34] <ubuntu> wouldn't the intel already be disabled
[09:34] <JohnnyRotten> does anyone know why after installing ubuntu after everything loads the screen just goes blank? its ubuntu 5.04
[09:34] <bystander> ubuntu: I don't know, to be honest
[09:34] <ubuntu> well how can i show you the error i get
[09:34] <ubuntu> from x-server
[09:34] <ubuntu> write down log info or what?
[09:36] <bystander> ubuntu: you might paste the error at pastebin.com and ask people to look at it: I have to go again soon I'm sfraid
[09:36] <bystander> ubuntu: I'm no expert on x configuration anyway
[09:37] <ubuntu> ok..
[09:37] <ubuntu> i will go check the bio
[09:37] <ubuntu> s
[09:37] <bystander> I just know a few commands like the one I gave you
[09:37] <ubuntu> what button is it again to get into bios
[09:37] <ubuntu> also, any other x-server command that might get me out of this rut
[09:37] <bystander> depends on your machine
[09:37] <ubuntu> also when i installed ubuntu i used partition as /root
[09:37] <bystander> the button I mean
[09:37] <ubuntu> is that correct setup ?
[09:37] <bystander> no, should be just /
[09:38] <ubuntu> i'm sure that's what i mean
[09:38] <ubuntu> eh
[09:38] <ubuntu> i think it said /root.
[09:38] <ubuntu> =/=
[09:38] <ubuntu> -.-
[09:38] <ubuntu> ;-[
[09:38] <bystander> definitely should be /
[09:38] <ubuntu> should i reinstall ubuntu ?
[09:38] <ubuntu> how do i know if it is /
[09:39] <bystander> sudo fdisk -l will show you your partitions
[09:40] <glick> this is exactly why you want to learn how to compile your own kernels ladies and gentlemen
[09:40] <lobo_> bystander: are you familiar with software raid setups?
[09:40] <bystander> lobo_: no, sorry
[09:40] <ubuntu> bystander
[09:40] <lobo_> poopy :(
[09:40] <ubuntu> so if it is /root
[09:40] <ubuntu> that is wrong?
[09:40] <ubuntu> it should just be /
[09:40] <bystander> ubuntu: as I said, /root is root's home dir, not the root partition
[09:41] <bystander> is the root partition
[09:41] <ubuntu> oh this is so very complicated i remember using
[09:41] <bystander> sorry / is the root partition
[09:41] <ubuntu> knoppix it was easy
[09:41] <bystander> ubuntu: ubuntu is almost exactly the same as knoppix in these respects
[09:42] <bystander> both are debian-style distros
[09:42] <ubuntu> k
[09:42] <chris> somebody is trying to get into my ssh server what shall I do?
[09:42] <chris> auth.log gives me their ip
[09:42] <ubuntu> ip-ban?
[09:42] <chris> good idea how?
[09:42] <KerPlunk> chris: dial 911
[09:42] <chris> hehe
[09:42] <ubuntu> lol
[09:42] <bystander> chris: shut down your server?
[09:42] <chris> nah
[09:42] <ubuntu> how the hell do i get x-server to work
[09:42] <chris> I on remote access too
[09:42] <ubuntu> it is driving me nuts
[09:43] <chris> so a ip with firestater then?
[09:43] <ubuntu> kerplunk can you help?
[09:44] <KerPlunk> ubuntu: apt-get -y install xserver-xfree86 xfonts-base
[09:44] <bystander> KerPlunk: he's on Hoary
[09:44] <ubuntu> i really need a command like thator something
[09:45] <ubuntu> i want to get this working
[09:45] <KerPlunk> I dunno what Hoary is
[09:45] <KerPlunk> This is my first time here.
[09:45] <ubuntu> that cmd is no good for hoary?
[09:45] <KerPlunk> I'm a debian person.
[09:45] <bystander> KerPlunk: he has xorg, not xfree
[09:45] <KerPlunk> It seems Ubuntu is taking over so I came to see what the fuss was about
[09:45] <ubuntu> apt-get -y install xserver-xorg xfonts-base
[09:45] <ubuntu> will that work
[09:46] <bystander> it will probably say "you have the latest version already"
[09:46] <KerPlunk> HP is backing Ubuntu making some of their laptop models completly compatible with Ubuntu out of the box.
[09:46] <KerPlunk> in Europe/Middle East/Africa
[09:46] <KerPlunk> That is huge.
[09:47] <bystander> KerPlunk: interesting
[09:47] <bystander> KerPlunk: URL?
[09:47] <mithro> hi! how do i find out what the logout "suspend" and "hibernate" buttons call?
[09:48] <Madpilot> bystander: http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20050512_124421.html  - google Ubuntu HP for more
[09:48] <KerPlunk> http://www.cooltechzone.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=1341
[09:48] <bystander> OK thanks
[09:49] <chris> it was somebody in asia
[09:49] <glick> ima save the kernel compile for t'morrow
[09:49] <bystander> this could be the thin edge of the wedge for linux.. good stuff
[09:49] <glick> i gotta hit the hay
[09:49] <glick> g'nite
[09:49] <chris> in Oz I think
[09:49] <rixth> How can one open .wps (MS Works) documents in OpenOffice?
[09:49] <KerPlunk> bystander: It certainly can't hurt.
[09:49] <bystander> KerPlunk: indeed
[09:49] <KerPlunk> rixth: Go to file and open in openoffice?
[09:50] <KerPlunk> Then click on the wps file?
[09:50] <rixth> KerPlunk, no, it doesn't have the filter.
[09:50] <KerPlunk> Change it to *.*
[09:50] <bystander> must fly - good luck, ubuntu
[09:51] <rixth> KerPlunk, it doesn't have the filter! I've tried opening it as a Word document (97 through to XP) and it doesn't woprk.
[09:51] <rixth> It' not that I can't see the file, I just can't open it.
[09:51] <KerPlunk> rixth: Have you tried in #openoffice?
[09:51] <psychonate> Microsoft offers a converter on their website AFAIK
[09:51] <psychonate> also, I think abiword can open it
[09:52] <rixth> KerPlunk, it's not even a channel.
[09:52] <ChinaCatJones> so what's everyone's favorite ripper?
[09:52] <chris> my hacker is from taiwan
[09:52] <KerPlunk> #openoffice.org
[09:52] <rixth> I'll get Abiword then.  I can't change my password to r47wok becasue it's "too simple".
[09:54] <holycow> hey guys, i have a sis ac'97 internal modem, lspci -v shows it having i/o ports, but lsmod doesnt show a module loaded and wvdial cannot detect the modem on any ttys ports ...
[09:54] <psychonate> however, if you have windows or if you can get it working under wine:
[09:54] <psychonate> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=b9e11e83-f51b-4977-b572-8c042df802c1&displaylang=en
[09:54] <psychonate> converter
[09:54] <rixth> ^^ Not actually the password, but it's in the format
[09:54] <rixth> psychonate, but I'm using Linux...
[09:54] <holycow> i'm googling not muc relavent stuff on this, anyone know how to debug modem realated issues?  im thinking udev has something to do with it
[09:55] <psychonate> well, it's probably abiword or bust then
[09:56] <ubuntu> if i download the non hedgehog version you think it might work?
[09:58] <rixth> Okay.  People on the Live CD who join get assigned that nick.
[10:02] <rixth> That wasn't my password. Just an example
[10:02] <ubuntu> they do?
[10:02] <ubuntu> how do i change nickname
[10:02] <Amaranth> Yeah, because the user on the Live CD is ubuntu and xchat uses that to set the nick.
[10:02] <Amaranth> /nick <SomeNameHere>
[10:02] <Ubuntu2> k
[10:02] <glick> lol but he user on the liveCD can chance his nick too
[10:03] <Ubuntu2> anyway i need some help
[10:03] <Ubuntu2> if i want to install ubuntu
[10:03] <Ubuntu2> how the hell do i get x-server to load
[10:03] <burnboy> i can never remember the exact xconfig command..
[10:04] <Amaranth> we'd need to know the error first
[10:04] <Ubuntu2> when i'm installing ubuntu in a dual boot set-up with windows
[10:04] <Ubuntu2> amaranth i have it one second
[10:04] <burnboy> wait, was this hoary or not?
[10:04] <Ubuntu2> yes
[10:04] <Ubuntu2> tells me
[10:04] <burnboy> hm
[10:04] <Ubuntu2> no devices
[10:04] <Ubuntu2> no screens
[10:04] <Ubuntu2> ..?
[10:05] <Ubuntu2> and something about not implemented
[10:05] <Ubuntu2> and says "i cannot load x-server (you're graphical interface)
[10:05] <Amaranth> yeah, tell it to give you the error log
[10:06] <Ubuntu2> i did
[10:06] <Ubuntu2> what doi dothen
[10:06] <Ubuntu2> do i do then*
[10:07] <Amaranth> tell use the error
[10:07] <burnboy> try xorgconfig
[10:07] <Ubuntu2> i did
[10:07] <burnboy> 'sudo xorgconfig'
[10:07] <burnboy> hrm.
[10:07] <Raskall> are there any estimates of when breezy is usable?
[10:08] <Ubuntu2> i guess ill go reinstall ubuntu
[10:08] <Ubuntu2> be back soon..
[10:08] <Ubuntu2> where do i copy the error from?
[10:08] <Amaranth> Raskall: 2 months, maybe
[10:08] <Ubuntu2> amaranth. where do i install it to /root ?
[10:09] <Ubuntu2> or /home
[10:09] <Amaranth> um...
[10:09] <Amaranth> maybe?
[10:09] <Raskall> Amaranth: :( too bad. is it severely broken?
[10:09] <glick> dam this kenel is takin forever to compile
[10:09] <glick> :(
[10:09] <Amaranth> Raskall: In a word, yes.
[10:10] <Amaranth> glick: Why are you compiling your own kernel?
[10:10] <lokk> You probably get this question all the time, but has anyone had any luck using RAID 0 with a Via VT8237 chipset?
[10:10] <Raskall> Amaranth: ok.. Guess I'll wait then. Hoary is doing a great job for me, so I don't really need to change anything.
[10:10] <glick> Amaranth, the stock kernels that come with ubuntu dont contain the fixes for faulty external firewire controller chips
[10:10] <glick> apparently 2.6.11-9 does
[10:10] <Ubuntu2> i wish i could get ubuntu to work
[10:10] <Ubuntu2> god damnit
[10:10] <Amaranth> Raskall: in 2 months it'll be 'don't stop working on a daily basis' not 'usable for a desktop that can't afford to go down for an hour of tinkering'
[10:11] <burnboy> glick, there's still a lot you could have removed to compile a lot quicker
[10:11] <Ubuntu2> amaranth
[10:11] <glick> burnboy, my kernel contains only what i need
[10:11] <Ubuntu2> where do i install ubuntu to
[10:11] <Amaranth> glick: The 2.6.11 in hoary isn't 2.6.11
[10:11] <burnboy> hmm
[10:11] <glick> Amaranth, what do you mean?
[10:11] <Amaranth> it's a bitkeeper snapshot of sometime after 2.6.10
[10:11] <Amaranth> as in, not stable, will die
[10:12] <glick> Amaranth, are you serious?
[10:12] <Amaranth> yes
[10:12] <Raskall> Amaranth: ok. I really need a working desktop right now since I am looking for a new job, so I guess I'll load breezy in some kind of vm instead.
[10:12] <glick> god damnit why do they do that!?
[10:12] <Amaranth> they thought 2.6.11 would release before they froze, it didn't
[10:12] <Amaranth> that's why it's in universe
[10:12] <glick> anyway when i transfer large amounts of data too or from my external fw drive it borks
[10:12] <matt__> is there a repository with e17 on it?
[10:13] <burnboy> wonder if anyone here knows hot to chown the uploads of all user accounts through vsftpd
[10:13] <Amaranth> glick: You'd have to compile a kernel from kernel.org
[10:13] <burnboy> i thought that's what he was doing
[10:13] <glick> Amaranth, yeah thats what im doing :)
[10:13] <burnboy> you don't compile what you can apt-get
[10:15] <burnboy> i always pop in a movie when i know i have to compile a personal kernel
[10:16] <burnboy> is ubuntuguide.org sponsored by Ubuntu at all?
[10:16] <burnboy> nevermind.
[10:16] <burnboy> dumb question
[10:17] <burnboy> it's General Note #1.
[10:17] <glick> i was starting to get frustrated as to why my shit wasnt working
[10:17] <glick> somethings are just meant to be done the good ole' fashion way
[10:17] <pschulz01> Gettings. I'm trying to configure bochs to use networking under hoary..
[10:18] <pschulz01> /dev/net/tun is there as well as the kernel module.. but it still isn;t working.
[10:19] <pschulz01> ls -al /dev/net/tun gives the device as (c 10,100) but device '10' is listed as 'misc' in /proc/devices.
[10:19] <pschulz01> suggestions?
[10:21] <glick> dam this wasnt supposed to take this long
[10:21] <glick> installing ubuntu
[10:21] <glick> :(
[10:21] <glick> i was expecting everything to "Just Work" :(
[10:22] <jsgotangco> tell that to microsoft too
[10:23] <jsgotangco> :)
[10:24] <petrf> :)
[10:24] <r0d> is their an easy way to install anjuta besides dl all the depend libs manually. apt-get doesnt have a package
[10:24] <glick> dude anjuta sucks
[10:24] <glick> learn to use your favorite text editor
[10:24] <glick> trus me
[10:24] <glick> you hate to do it at first
[10:24] <r0d> ok...
[10:25] <glick> yur used to a pretty ide
[10:25] <jsgotangco> yeah
[10:25] <jsgotangco> i just use joe or probably nano
[10:25] <r0d> its alot easier
[10:25] <jsgotangco> sometimes bluefish is handy though
[10:25] <glick> but then when you get used to it you love it and then you start to bitch when at work you have to use an IDE to write code in
[10:25] <r0d> i dont think using reg text editor is any better. slower
[10:25] <glick> maybe try eclipse with C++ module instead of anjuta
[10:26] <glick> a text editor will have little bugs
[10:26] <glick> you dont know how buggy those big ass IDEs are
[10:26] <glick> r0d, learn vim or emacs
[10:26] <glick> im a long time vim user for code
[10:26] <r0d> i know emacs
[10:26] <jsgotangco> emacs is so good at coding
[10:26] <glick> trying to learn emacs cause i heard it has some nice features for coding
[10:26] <r0d> i need the question answered if possible
[10:27] <glick> i dont kow ive only used anjuta once on slackware, and i remimber it was a bitch to isntall there too
[10:29] <glick> does anyone here ever use the virtual desktops of gnome or kde?
[10:29] <glick> i have never used them as long as ive used them
[10:29] <jsgotangco> have you tried monodevelop
[10:30] <glick> jsgotangco, lol i think hes set on anjuta
[10:30] <r0d> ? no i'm not
[10:30] <r0d> i just dont need to be told how much better a reg text editor is. its not. unless its a small program
[10:30] <glick> wow the virtual desktops on xfce are pretty damn cool
[10:30] <burnboy> hmm..this looks interesting
[10:30] <glick> i may actually use these
[10:30] <r0d> i'm coming from kde and would like a good ide
[10:30] <e-guru> does anybody know how to load a new DSDT table at boot time to ubuntu?
[10:31] <r0d> jsgotangco, monodevelop, that uses c# right?
[10:31] <glick> yay! kernel complete!
[10:33] <r0d> I"m telling the apt database is way too small compared to emerge's. its gonna be hard to get use to
[10:33] <burnboy> what's a good web-based coding GUI editor along the lines of mondevelop?
[10:34] <glick> time to reboot
[10:34] <glick> brb
[10:35] <Vampis> morning ppl
[10:36] <r0d> howdy
[10:36] <Vampis> whats up?
[10:36] <r0d> frustration, lol
[10:36] <Vampis> hehe
[10:36] <Vampis> thats not nice ;)
[10:37] <r0d> you a big ubtunu guy vampis?
[10:37] <Vampis> no... just getting started.. like a couple of months ago
[10:37] <Vampis> so I'm n00b
[10:37] <Vampis> :>
[10:38] <r0d> ahh u too. I"m coming from gentoo. its a change.....
[10:38] <Vampis> but don't worry ppl, I'm not here to ask any questions ;)
[10:38] <Vampis> aah..
[10:38] <Vampis> I tried gentoo once
[10:38] <Vampis> the installation took 3 days..
[10:38] <r0d> gentoo rocks
[10:38] <Vampis> and then it refused to boot ;)
[10:38] <r0d> lol yea that part isnt the best...
[10:38] <Vampis> I got mighty pissed
[10:38] <r0d> stage1?
[10:38] <Seveas> Vampis, sounds like my story
[10:38] <Vampis> r0d: of course
[10:38] <r0d> :)
[10:38] <Seveas> i tried stage1, stage2 and stage3 install
[10:39] <Seveas> none of them would ever boot
[10:39] <r0d> well when i was a good ole noob on gentoo, i used stage3
[10:39] <r0d> made things alot more fun.
[10:39] <Vampis> Seveas: I got so pissed.. and I had to get access to my disks in the server so i throwed in xp little quick
[10:39] <Seveas> so i kinda don't like gentoo since then :)
[10:39] <Vampis> me neither :)
[10:39] <r0d> i feel ya on that. i cant use my amd64 bit chip on a 32enviroment
[10:40] <r0d> which is y i'm here:) loving the easy-ness
[10:40] <Seveas> :)
[10:40] <Vampis> =)
[10:40] <Seveas> r0d, by the way, the apt database is only small if you don't use universe :)
[10:41] <r0d> how'd ya do that? i know that the apt-source file is what apt-get reads for source right?
[10:41] <Vampis> how many sources do u hade in the sources.list? I only have the ones in ubuntuguide.org
[10:41] <matt__> how do you search for something with apt-get?
[10:41] <Vampis> apt-cache search Whatuwannasearchfor
[10:41] <Seveas> r0d, make your /etc/apt/sources.list include at least the repositories listed in http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/38
[10:42] <r0d> apt-cache searh <name of file>
[10:42] <r0d> sweet
[10:42] <locomorto> search*
[10:42] <locomorto> ;)
[10:42] <r0d> lol
[10:42] <r0d> its been a rough night
[10:42] <locomorto> i know, fridays are a killer
[10:42] <Vampis> Seveas: I have thoose..
[10:42] <Vampis> and the extras i found @ ubuntuguide
[10:42] <Seveas> eeek
[10:43] <locomorto> anyone found any pieces of interesting software?
[10:43] <Seveas> backports/marillat are evil
[10:43] <locomorto> sevaes they are not
[10:43] <locomorto> i will enjoy my lovely ff 1.0.4 and gstreamer and you can go off and sulk
[10:44] <Seveas> locomorto, ff in standard ubuntu is equivalent to 1.0.4 and better packaged
[10:44] <Seveas> good luck on upgrades...
[10:44] <matt__> anyone here install e17 from apt-get? im having some trouble
[10:44] <locomorto> no its not
[10:44] <Vampis> matt__: I have a thread here.. w8
[10:44] <locomorto> it only has the security updates pulled down
[10:44] <Seveas> e17 is not in the standard repositories matt__ afaik
[10:44] <Vampis> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216
[10:45] <Vampis> matt__: there's all ya need to know
[10:45] <Seveas> locomorto, new features introduce new bugs, so if you want that, by all means use backports
[10:45] <Seveas> they still suck, QA wise
[10:45] <Vampis> I tried kubuntu last month
[10:45] <matt__> Vampis: ya i saw that already but it wont work, wont let me install the package
[10:45] <Vampis> konqeror crashed all the time
[10:47] <Vampis> matt__:  in the apt/precerenses
[10:47] <Vampis> change the pin from  version 0.17.0_pre10*
[10:47] <Vampis> to 0.16.999*
[10:47] <mimi> hello
[10:48] <IIIEars> good morning mimi
[10:48] <Vampis> thats the way he named the packages
[10:48] <penticlex> new breezy installing now
[10:48] <matt__> Vampis: thanks i think that did it, was getting really frustrated =\
[10:48] <mimi> hello can you see what im writting
[10:49] <Vampis> no
[10:49] <Vampis> i dont see a word ;)
[10:49] <Vampis> *lol*
[10:49] <Vampis> matt__: np :>
[10:49] <mimi> lol
[10:49] <Vampis> matt__: u made me feel a little 1337 there ;)
[10:49] <penticlex> I was so suprized how fast ubuntu is
[10:49] <mimi> how old r u
[10:49] <IIIEars> invisible e-ink?
[10:49] <Vampis> penticlex: its fu**ing fast..
[10:49] <mimi> fucking fast eh
[10:49] <Vampis> It runs fast as hell on my thinkpad 1.6 p4m with 768DDR
[10:49] <penticlex> yes it is installation only 30 min
[10:50] <Vampis> yes
[10:50] <penticlex> on my amd duron 850
[10:50] <mimi> you guys are computer nerds right
[10:50] <IIIEars> wich is amazing if you have ever tried fedora.
[10:50] <Seveas> mimi, some would say that, we prefer the term linux enthousiasts ;)
[10:50] <penticlex> fedora sucks
[10:50] <matt__> Vampis: can i pm you?
[10:50] <Vampis> I have a problem with my duron 800
[10:50] <IIIEars> 2 points for not saying "geek" - lol
[10:51] <Vampis> the motherboard doesnt support it, so it thinks it is a duron 533, but ubuntu sees it as a duron 800
[10:51] <Vampis> matt__: about? :)
[10:51] <penticlex> nothing works correctly
[10:51] <Vampis> u got that right ;)
[10:51] <penticlex> ?I have no problems w/ my amd 850 its overclocked to 1.07 ghx
[10:52] <penticlex> ghz
[10:52] <glick> works like a charm :)
[10:52] <Vampis> penticlex: this depends on the motherboard..
[10:52] <matt__> Vampis: well, no i can select enlightenment but now there is a list of deps that says cant be installed, am i missing something else? another repository
[10:52] <Vampis> I am trying to find a used cpu to buy
[10:52] <penticlex> yes true
[10:52] <Vampis> matt__: have u added the repositories in the thread on the forum i sent ?
[10:53] <penticlex> 47% upgraded
[10:53] <matt__> Vampis: ya, it was just the one at the top right?
[10:53] <penticlex> fast
[10:53] <Vampis> matt__: yep.. hnm, do u have all the sources listed i ubuntuguide.org ?
[10:54] <IIIEars> Vampis - check newegg.com - $179 for a 1.8g machine - if all you are looking for is an upgrade likely that will upgrade more than the processor
[10:54] <Vampis> I kive i sweden ;)
[10:54] <Vampis> live*
[10:55] <IIIEars> My favorite place is outpost.com - hewlett packard machines starting at $399 - great second machines
[10:56] <Vampis> nice
[10:57] <r0d> Seveas, you know that apt-list you showed me. it get "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:57] <IIIEars> check pricewatch for components to build that gaming rig.
[10:57] <matt__> Vampis: ya i do now, still same error
[10:57] <r0d> Seveas, wrong link?
[10:57] <dmoyne> hello ! what is the best place to set local variables for a user ? ; thanks
[10:57] <Vampis> matt__: wierd
[10:57] <Seveas> r0d, apt-get update
[10:57] <Seveas> always apt-get update after editing sources.list
[10:57] <Vampis> yep
[10:58] <Seveas> dmoyne, that depends
[10:58] <Seveas> dmoyne, if they should be system-wide: ~/.gnomerc
[10:58] <r0d> Seveas,  i owe you a cookie.
[10:58] <Seveas> if they should be available in a terminal: ~/.bashrc
[10:59] <dmoyne> Seveas, I said just for a user otherwise for system-wide configuration /etc/environments is good is it not ?
[10:59] <sebastyan> Hello peeps !
[11:00] <Seveas> dmoyne, sorry, with system wide i meant: also available in gnome (ie: no terminal)
[11:00] <ki4cgp> Anyone been able to get fglrx and DRI running with an ATI radeon 9600XT or something close?
[11:00] <thoreauputic> hmm... yet another firefox update?
[11:00] <IIIEars> Can X-Chat accept system wide "themes"?
[11:01] <sebastyan> Ubuntu Addon CD is enough ?? i mean i have all development libraries there ?
[11:01] <sebastyan> or i need to still download them ?
[11:01] <dmoyne> Seveas, my problem is that by setting in ~bashrc it has no more effect !
[11:02] <IIIEars> thprea, - The scripties are aiming at the second most popular browser.   (cringe should i stick with "links" - grin)
[11:02] <petrf> longhorn
[11:02] <petrf> search
[11:02] <Seveas> dmoyne, that's odd
[11:03] <Burgundavia> ki4cgp, I have set up 2 of them
[11:03] <Burgundavia> ki4cgp, have you read wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto ?
[11:03] <Seveas> Burgundavia, do you have transparency going too?
[11:03] <Burgundavia> Seveas, nope, never tried
[11:03] <Seveas> ah ok
[11:03] <ki4cgp> No, I just installed ubuntu tonight, and have had problems getting those packages to install/compile
[11:04] <Seveas> supertux needs it :|
[11:04] <Burgundavia> Seveas, I suppose I could mess up Madpilot's machine
[11:04] <ki4cgp> I'll take a look at that tho
[11:04] <dmoyne> Seveas, yes, it maybe related to a bug with Kuser crashing when trying to edit a user properties (this is where you indicate /usr/bash as the user script) !
[11:04] <r0d> omg monodevelop is so AWESOME!. no need to develop in windows anymore:)
[11:04] <Burgundavia> ki4cgp, you don't need to compile anything, just install the drivers and edit your xorg.conf
[11:04] <ki4cgp> K
[11:04] <Madpilot> Burgundavia: Oh, thanks very much. Preform driver tests on your own blasted box! :)
[11:05] <Burgundavia> Madpilot, lol
[11:05] <Seveas> dmoyne, bash = /usr/bin/bash
[11:05] <navreet> what's the best man page browser? (not man... I am looking for color coding, etc)
[11:05] <Burgundavia> Madpilot, but I need mine to work
[11:05] <Seveas> or even /bin/bash
[11:05] <Seveas> navreet, yelp
[11:05] <Madpilot> Burgundavia: Bite me.
[11:06] <IIIEars> lol - Welcome to the "Ubuntu Community"
[11:06] <Vampis> hehe
[11:06] <Madpilot> meaning that the nicest possible way, of course
[11:06] <e-guru> does anybody know how to compile DSDT table? iasl tool seems to be missing in ubuntu
[11:06] <navreet> Seveas, thanks, but how do I open a man page from yelp?
[11:06] <dmoyne> Seveas, nope /bin/bash !
[11:07] <Madpilot> IIIEars: we're brothers. he's my beer-powered tech support. I'm obliged to give Burgundavia grief... :)
[11:07] <Seveas> navreet: just start yelp and click on the man pages link :)
[11:07] <IIIEars> heh - wide grin
[11:07] <Seveas> beer-powered tech support
[11:07] <Seveas> i like that title :)
[11:08] <Seveas> dmoyne, indeed, but you said /usr/bash earlier
[11:08] <Seveas> and that's wrong :)
[11:09] <dmoyne> Seveas, sorry but I meant the latter ; what is the graphical alternative with GNOME to Kuser ?
[11:09] <Seveas> no idea, what's kuser?
[11:10] <Seveas> i think you need users-admin
[11:10] <jsgotangco> Madpilot, you are a fool to trust Burgundavia
[11:10] <IIIEars> Seveas - overheard in another tech chat room. "Windows sux i have 2003 server got" "where did you get that?" "....some .ru server"  "It doesn't work can you help?"
[11:10] <jsgotangco> hehe
[11:10] <navreet> Seveas, thanks... but I wish there was a quicker way... e.g. yelp mplayer
[11:10] <dmoyne> Seveas, this is a graphical interface to edit user properties such as group ownership, script, domain path and so on
[11:10] <Church_of_FoamY> anyone know how to delete dirs in cedega?
[11:11] <Burgundavia> Seveas, I run Breezy.   I'm gonna reboot to see how it does...
[11:11] <Madpilot> jsgotangco: afraid so. has my name been taken in vain?
[11:11] <jsgotangco> Madpilot, he's been talking about it for days
[11:12] <dmoyne> Seveas, apparently I cannot run in console mode ! ; are sure of the package (application) name ?
[11:12] <Madpilot> jsgotangco: oh dear. his first convert has gone to Burgundavia's head...
[11:12] <Seveas> dmoyne, gksudo users-admin (it needs root privileges)
[11:14] <dmoyne> Seveas, nothing happens when running gksudo users-admin : no error message and no display !
[11:14] <Seveas> dmoyne, that's odd
[11:14] <Seveas> works fine here
[11:15] <Seveas> it's /usr/bin/users-admin
[11:15] <Seveas> btw: i think it needs to be run inside a gnome session
[11:15] <dmoyne> Seveas, yes maybe I have a bug somewherer in the files under /etc like : shadow, group that I had to edit by hand as Kuser was crashing !
[11:16] <bigfoot> Hi everybody. I'd like to make use of an extension in Firefox. My question is in regards to the Fx that comes with Ubuntu. The extension's homepage (http://piro.sakura.ne.jp/xul/webmap/index.html.en) says that "This extension works only with special builds of Mozilla with the SVG option. If you use normal releases of Mozilla/Firefox, this won't work." For Linux, the build he mentioned is "Mozilla 1.7.5 local build with libart_lgpl-2.3.16-2.1 (bui
[11:16] <bigfoot> ld option: --enable-svg --enable-svg-renderer-libart)" please advise.
[11:16] <Church_of_FoamY> does anyone know how to delete directorys in cedega?
[11:17] <IIIEars> bigfoot - nice tip!
[11:17] <bigfoot> IIIEars, oh, you mean the extension?
[11:17] <Seveas> bigfoot, you will need to compile mozila yourself, afaik the ubuntu builds do not have svg enabled
[11:17] <dmoyne> Seveas, when searching package users-admin it does not exist ! what is the package name that contains it ?
[11:18] <IIIEars> I did have even a start at where to begin with them.
[11:18] <navreet> Seveas, man:topic in konqueror is also great! :)
[11:18] <Burgundavia> bigbootay, SVG is not enabled for Ubuntu builds. It is coming by default it FF 1.1. So inorder to get it, you need to compile your own ff
[11:18] <bigfoot> IIIEars, i'm sorry, i don't understand your last statement.
[11:18] <Seveas> dmoyne, gnome-system-tools
[11:18] <Seveas> navreet, eeek konqueror
[11:18] <IIIEars> never mind - lol - neither do i. (nap time)
[11:18] <bigfoot> Seveas, okay. What does it mean to "compile"? How does one do so?
[11:19] <IIIEars> Good night! :)
[11:19] <Vampis> navreet: konqeror sux =)
[11:19] <Vampis> it crashes all the time in kubuntu
[11:19] <navreet> Seveas, I know... I used to be a kde fan, but I've switch to Gnome after 2.4 or so
[11:19] <navreet> Seveas, it seems so bloated..
[11:19] <bigfoot> navreet, welcome to gnome.
[11:19] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: if you need to ask that, don't try to compile mozilla or firefox ;)
[11:19] <lhb> bigfoot: build it from sourcecode
[11:19] <Fleischlego> does this mean X tries to open the mouse as a "serial mouse"? => (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice
[11:19] <navreet> bigfoot, heh, been using it for a while :)... it's slick, glad they revamped nautilus long ago [used to be super slow]
[11:20] <bigfoot> thoreauputic, Hi! You mean getting a SVG mozilla isn't as easy as downloading a package from Synaptic?
[11:20] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: that would be a major understatement :)
[11:20] <navreet> bigbootay, yeah...
[11:21] <navreet> doh
[11:21] <navreet> bigfoot, yeah
[11:21] <ice_1963> ok
[11:21] <Seveas> navreet,  is bigbootay a fancy word for fatass? :p
[11:21] <ki4cgp> Burgundavia, no such luck with the driver on that web-page
[11:22] <Madpilot> amazing the nicks ppl choose, isn't it? :p
[11:22] <dmoyne> Seveas, thanks now it works to edit users with Gnome ! ; thanks ; last question how do I launch webadmin ?
[11:22] <bigfoot> ok, in that case, no problem. The extension was to give a Visual Map of the history (of webpages viewed) in Fx.
[11:22] <Seveas> dmoyne, you mean webmin?
[11:22] <dmoyne> Seveas, yes !!!!
[11:23] <Seveas> dmoyne, you need to have your root account enabled for that afaik
[11:23] <Seveas> and you just point firefox to http://localhost:10000/
[11:23] <goldfish> hmmm
[11:23] <dmoyne> Seveas, I am sudo
[11:23] <Burgundavia> ki4cgp, do you have an nforce2 board?
[11:23] <Seveas> yeah but i heard (never used webmin) that webmin needs the root account to be enabled
[11:24] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: webmin expects "root"
[11:24] <ki4cgp> Burgundavia,  Not that I know of.  I don't think it had any video installed.  as a matter of fact, its i810 chipset
[11:24] <dmoyne> Seveas, ok thanks a lot for your help !
[11:25] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: if you must enable root, you can set a root passwd with ` sudo passwd root `
[11:25] <Wings> ello, I downloaded irssi with the synaptic package manager, how  do I run it?
[11:25] <Seveas> Wings, in a terminal you type: irssi
[11:25] <dmoyne> Seveas, you are wright I have to log as root to get in !
[11:25] <Wings> alright
[11:25] <thoreauputic> Wings: type `irssi -c irc.freenode.net` in a terminal
[11:26] <thoreauputic> Wings: for example
[11:26] <Wings> ok trying that now
[11:26] <thoreauputic> Wings:  irssi.org for lots of docs and info
[11:26] <gocili> I'm just trying to change my root setup on my newly installed system....but it won't let me
[11:27] <gocili> what is the default password on ubuntu
[11:27] <gocili> default root pass
[11:27] <thoreauputic> your user password for sudo
[11:27] <thoreauputic> there isn't one
[11:27] <Wings> alright, it worked, thanks
[11:27] <thoreauputic> as such
[11:28] <Seveas> stupid alt-f4 :)
[11:28] <Seveas> gocili, there is no default root password
[11:28] <Seveas> gocili: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[11:31] <Shufla> hello :D
[11:32] <gocili> ok
[11:32] <gocili> got it
[11:32] <gocili> thanks guys
[11:32] <Kpjas> Hi What can I do when my mouse dies ?
[11:32] <thoreauputic> Kpjas: get a hamster?
[11:32] <Kpjas> apart from burying it ?
[11:33] <Kpjas> in my previous system there was gpm
[11:34] <thoreauputic> sudo apt-get install gpm
[11:34] <Vampis> gpm = ? gnome package manager?
[11:34] <Kpjas> My mouse dies when I left login screen for too long
[11:34] <thoreauputic> Vampis: no it's a mouse thing for use in frame buffer etc
[11:35] <Shufla> Vampis: apt-cache show gpm
[11:35] <Vampis> ah
[11:35] <Kpjas> thoreauputic: how does mouse work in Gnome then ?
[11:35] <Kpjas> without gpm ?
[11:35] <thoreauputic> Kpjas: I have no idea ;)
[11:35] <Shufla> Kpjas: xorg has it's own driver.
[11:36] <Vampis> Shufla: that one i didnt now..spanx
[11:36] <Shufla> spanx?
[11:36] <Vampis> thanx
[11:36] <Vampis> ;)
[11:36] <Shufla> do you want to spank me? no, plaseeeaseee! i prefer women! ;)
[11:36] <Kpjas> Shufla: how can it be restarted ?
[11:36] <Vampis> Shufla: I'm not i woman?...
[11:36] <Vampis> damnit
[11:36] <Shufla> Kpjas: huh. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:36] <Myrtti> *krhm*
[11:37] <Myrtti> I can do the spanking
[11:37] <Shufla> Vampis: afair Niclas isn't woman's name.
[11:37] <Kpjas> Shufla: thnx I think it will do the trick
[11:37] <Vampis> Shufla: lol :)
[11:37] <Vampis> Shufla: where are u from? poland?
[11:38] <Shufla> Vampis: yes.
[11:38] <Vampis> :)
[11:38] <Kpjas> Shufla: ah a compatriot :)
[11:38] <Vampis> lol :)
[11:38] <Shufla> Kpjas: ano :D
[11:39] <Kpjas> Is there a place to file a bug ?
[11:39] <Shufla> Kpjas: bugzilla.ubuntu.com and launchpad.ubuntu.com for universe
[11:39] <Kpjas> I think this is a bug
[11:39] <Kpjas> mouse shouldn't freeze in gnome login screen
[11:40] <Shufla> Kpjas: beware. afair gpm in is universe which is unsupported
[11:40] <Madpilot> g'night, all.
[11:40] <Vampis> night?
[11:40] <Vampis> ;)
[11:40] <Vampis> already?
[11:40] <Kpjas> Madpilot: this is morning
[11:40] <bigfoot> Hi everyone, how can i get the n with the tilde mark ( ~)over it into my text? It's one of those letters used in Spanish, as for example, in the word Senor.
[11:40] <Seveas> Madpilot, lives down under :)
[11:40] <Vampis> aha
[11:41] <Shufla> bigfoot: use spanish keymapping
[11:41] <bigfoot> Shufla, how do i do that? By the way, i will only need this letter once in a blue moon.
[11:41] <Fator_Dee>
[11:41] <Madpilot> no, in Canada. it's now 0243 here, I've got to be at work @ 0900 local. so it's night for me!
[11:41] <bigfoot> Fator_Dee, you did it.
[11:41] <bigfoot> how?
[11:41] <Fator_Dee> altgr+~+n
[11:41] <bigfoot> Fator_Dee, what's gr?
[11:41] <Vampis> Madpilot: night
[11:41] <Fator_Dee> works wit  and  and
[11:41] <Seveas> bigfoot, keep ctrl+shift pressed and type f1 (that's an f and a one)
[11:42] <Fator_Dee> bigfoot: um, the right alt :-\
[11:42] <Fator_Dee> bigfoot: I have it labeled as Alt Gr
[11:42] <bigfoot>
[11:42] <Seveas>
[11:42] <bigfoot> Seveas,
[11:42] <Vampis>
[11:42] <Vampis> :D
[11:42] <Seveas>
[11:43] <Seveas>
[11:43] <Seveas> by the way: gucharmap is cool :)
[11:43] <Fator_Dee> copy paste my text to some safe place if you  can't get it to come out :-p
[11:43] <Seveas>
[11:43] <Fator_Dee> then you can copy it from there :-D
[11:43] <Seveas> ok, i'll stop now :)
[11:43] <Vampis> =)
[11:43] <bigfoot> Seveas, how comes it sometimes shows up in that wierd symbol, like this:
[11:44] <bigfoot> Fator_Dee, as you can see above, thanks to your help, I'm able!
[11:44] <Seveas> bigfoot, than you don't have a symbol for that in your font
[11:44] <bigfoot> Seveas, how did you know the code for ?
[11:44] <Seveas> bigfoot, gucharmap :)
[11:44] <Fator_Dee> bigfoot: ok, the other same kind of characters can be made with similar combinations
[11:45] <bigfoot> Seveas, i see. I have that program open now, but how were you able to find it?
[11:45] <keffo> Anyone using X-Chat.. read this! I have a problem with things while ppl highlight me.. check this out
 WOHO
[11:45] <keffo> Fackamato haha oj lite spam dr ja keffo
[11:45] <Seveas> bigfoot, select latin from the left list
[11:45] <keffo> while someone highlight me there is no <MODEnick>
[11:45] <keffo> where teh hell do i add this?
[11:45] <bigfoot> Seveas, got it. I was looking for a script called "spanish". ha!
[11:46] <Seveas> keffo, settings->advanced->text events
[11:46] <keffo> i know, just wonder wich tab ;P or so
[11:47] <Seveas> Channel Msg Hilight
[11:48] <bigfoot> Seveas, i found the Capital N with tilde, but not . also, how did you know what the keyboard shortcut key was?
[11:49] <bigfoot> Seveas, found  now.
[11:49] <Seveas> ok, select it
[11:49] <Seveas> and the statusbar will show you the code
[11:49] <Seveas> U+00F1
[11:49] <Seveas> that means hold ctrl+shift and type f 1
[11:50] <bigfoot> okay, i see. but if you did'nt tell me, how should i know that "U+00" equals Ctrl+shift?
[11:50] <Seveas> it doesn't
[11:50] <bigfoot> or Seveas, how did you know?
[11:50] <Seveas> ctrl+shift is the gnome compose-unicode combination
[11:50] <Seveas> you just leave out leading 0's when typing the combination
[11:51] <bigfoot>
[11:51] <bigfoot> thanks, seveas.
[11:51] <Seveas>
[11:51] <Seveas> yw :)
[11:52] <bigfoot> Seveas, I'll have to remember that " U+ equals Ctrl+shift, because it's not in the 3paged gurcharmap helpfile!
[11:53] <Shufla> it's so boring... on day like that in work :(
[11:53] <Seveas> bigfoot, it does not equal it
[11:53] <bigfoot> huh?
[11:53] <hhurtta> Shufla: tell me about it
[11:53] <Seveas> U+ just means that it's unicode
[11:53] <bigfoot> okay.
[11:53] <Seveas> and ctrl+shift is the gnome compose-unicode charcombo
[11:53] <bigfoot> gotcha. how did you learn about this?
[11:53] <Vampis> ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:54] <Vampis> *kidding*
[11:54] <Seveas> bigfoot, another helper: add the character palette to your panel
[11:54] <Shufla> Vampis: it's 'U+killer-keycode'
[11:54] <Seveas> bigfoot, heard it from someone else ;)
[11:54] <bigfoot> Seveas, can you and  your comp read japanese text?
[11:55] <bigfoot> if so, I want to thank you in Japanese:
[11:55] <bigfoot> 8-)
[11:56] <Seveas> my comp can, i cannot :)
[11:56] <Vampis> Kleggas: wb
[11:56] <Kleggas> which file do I edit to change the default login manager from kdm to other?
[11:56] <Kleggas> spanx Vampis
[11:56] <Seveas> Kleggas, /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[11:57] <Kleggas> Seveas: thank you
[11:58] <keffo> xchat - ok, anyone knows why this aint working.. I go the Channel MSG Highlight - add that line that makes both < > and mode (@ + or so) click "Save" then "Ok"
[11:58] <keffo> and it doesnt work
[11:58] <keffo> it doesnt save it.. why teh HELL is it doing like this
[11:58] <keffo> im going nuts home here
[12:02] <grexk> hello
[12:02] <grexk> can someone help me out...pm me please
[12:03] <liable> grexk: just ask your question, you'll get more help here
[12:03] <grexk> how can i change the tty font of hoary
[12:03] <grexk> cause it to big
[12:04] <grexk> its*
[12:04] <liable> grexk: use framebuffer
[12:04] <grexk> i already sudo dpkg-reconfigure x
[12:04] <grexk> and enable framebuffer
[12:04] <Shufla> grexk: line with vga= in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:05] <jacquesmerde> i wanna stick with just the default repos, and stick with all Free software, but i want to cheat a LITTLE and give myself an mp3 decoder (not encoder)...is that possible?
[12:05] <grexk> shufla how
[12:05] <Seveas> jacquesmerde, yes
[12:05] <thoreauputic> jacquesmerde: lame
[12:05] <liable> grexk: whats your native resolution
[12:05] <Shufla> grexk: you enabled framebuffer for xorg, which is not so good.
[12:05] <grexk> 1024x768
[12:05] <jacquesmerde> thoreauputic, oh. i thought lame was an ENcoder. which repo?
[12:05] <thoreauputic> jacquesmerde: that's the package name, not an insult, by the way ;)
[12:06] <thoreauputic> jacquesmerde: oh I see
[12:06] <liable> Shufla: why is that?
[12:06] <thoreauputic> jacquesmerde: you just want to play mp3s ?
[12:06] <grexk> why did you say that @shufla
[12:06] <Kleggas> in slack, there is some file somewhere where you could add commands that would execute right after the system has booted, before it starts X. is there such in ubuntu?
[12:06] <jacquesmerde> thoreauputic, yeah. i'm happy to encode to oggs
[12:06] <Shufla> liable: for what frambuffer driver for x? it is slower, isn't it?
[12:06] <thoreauputic> jacquesmerde: install gstreamer0.8-mad
[12:06] <jacquesmerde> btw, i was surprised (and hurt) that gmpc wasnt in the default repos
[12:07] <jacquesmerde> thoreauputic, mad! that's it! i was thinking:hmm...not lame...m....mame?
[12:07] <liable> Shufla: dunno, actually, dont game so am a bit of a graphics retard :(
[12:07] <Shufla> grexk: no msg.
[12:08] <grexk> ok]
[12:08] <thoreauputic> jacquesmerde: withthat package you can play mp3 in rhythmbox
[12:08] <jacquesmerde> thoreauputic, which repo?
[12:08] <jacquesmerde> thoreauputic, yeah, rhythmbox is my second favourite music player. but i looooooove gmpc
[12:08] <grexk> hello wat will i do to change the font....
[12:09] <thoreauputic> hmm - universe
[12:09] <thoreauputic> according to apt-cache policy
[12:09] <Seveas> universe is free software too
[12:09] <jacquesmerde> thoreauputic, once i've enabled universe, and installed mad...do i want to then disable universe?
[12:09] <liable> grexk: try adding vga=773 to your kernel line
[12:09] <grexk> does it help if i edit the xconf file
[12:09] <Seveas> restricted and multiverse are the non-free parts
[12:09] <thoreauputic> jacquesmerde: no, universe is still free software
[12:09] <jacquesmerde> so mad has NO license issues?
[12:09] <grexk> it wat line in grub menu.lst
[12:10] <jacquesmerde> the universe distinction is more about official package support?
[12:10] <thoreauputic> jacquesmerde: not that I know of, anyway
[12:10] <thoreauputic> jacquesmerde: yes
[12:10] <grexk> can u give me an example
[12:10] <thoreauputic> jacquesmerde: universe = community supported
[12:10] <jacquesmerde> actually, i'm gonna go mp3 cold turkey for a while...see how long i last. mp3's are a hard habit to kick
[12:11] <liable> grexk: just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add vga=773 to the end of the kernel line
[12:11] <grexk> ok ill try that
[12:12] <grexk> how bout the changing the menu
[12:12] <liable> grexk: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-1 root=/dev/hda3 ro vga=834
[12:12] <liable> grexk: but 773
[12:13] <grexk> imy menu.lst has /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-1 root=/dev/hda3 ro vga=834
[12:13] <liable> grexk: of course, for *your* kernel and *your* vga
[12:13] <liable> bah
[12:14] <grexk> i have this line /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-1 root=/dev/hda3 ro quite.... something
[12:14] <grexk> should i just add vga=773 or vga=normal
[12:15] <liable> grexk: you could add vga=ask   too
[12:15] <Seveas> vga=773
[12:15] <Seveas> that works fine for me (just tested)
[12:15] <grexk> ok thanks to you all
[12:16] <grexk> ill try that
[12:17] <Fator_Dee> jacquesmerde: just encode your cds to .ogg from this moment on :-)
[12:18] <Fator_Dee> or flac
[12:18] <jacquesmerde> Fator_Dee, oh. for sure. but i still like to be a bit of a p2p bandit
[12:18] <thoreauputic> jacquesmerde: google for ffmpeg2ogg for video conversions ;)
[12:18] <thoreauputic> sorry ffmpeg2theora
[12:19] <jacquesmerde> thoreauputic, what videos would i convert? i'm not a family guy/porn/futurama - watching geek....well, not ANYmore...
[12:19] <Fator_Dee> what's that theora thing?
[12:19] <Fator_Dee> I mean, what's it supposed to be a replacement for?
[12:19] <Fator_Dee> avi?
[12:19] <thoreauputic> heh - well, I just did some experiments with that tool so I thought I'd mention it :)
[12:20] <thoreauputic> Fator_Dee: it's a Free video format
[12:20] <thoreauputic> video equivalent of Vorbis for ogg
[12:20] <Fator_Dee> I... kind of knew that
[12:20] <thoreauputic> Fator_Dee: avi is a container: the theora "container" is .ogg
[12:21] <Fator_Dee> wouldn't that cause some misunderstanding on the programs?
[12:21] <Fator_Dee> having videos and audios labeled as ogg both?
[12:21] <thoreauputic> Fator_Dee: it does
[12:21] <Fator_Dee> why'd they do that :-\
[12:21] <thoreauputic> Fator_Dee: when the suffix is used for mime type ID at least
[12:21] <ogi_> hmph..the mplayer plugin for firefox doesn't seem to work very well. At least not in 1.0.4
[12:22] <thoreauputic> Fator_Dee: I don't know- I agree it seems dumb
[12:22] <Fator_Dee> ogt would have been good :-p
[12:22] <grexk> how bout managing the menus or even updating it can u teach me
[12:22] <omV0> i am trying to figure out how i can scan for bad sectors on my hdd.. my computer crashes and the log says "kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 4"
[12:23] <thoreauputic> Fator_Dee: my work around is to use xfmedia for music and video
[12:23] <thoreauputic> totem would also work I guess
[12:23] <Fator_Dee> thoreauputic: is that a good proggy?
[12:24] <omV0> if i leave the comp on for a few days, it'll crash.. i kinda doubt it's a physical damage on my hdd cause i used it flawlessly under windows before i installed linux and it's only a year old
[12:24] <thoreauputic> Fator_Dee: it's pretty good: very simple front-end for xine
[12:24] <Fator_Dee> I have to give it a test run sometime
[12:24] <thoreauputic> Fator_Dee: only downside for me is it lacks a volume control
[12:25] <thoreauputic> plays all videos if you have the codecs
[12:25] <Fator_Dee> like any other program :-p
[12:25] <omV0> and everytime, the log gives me a different sector that caused an error.. even "end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 0"
[12:25] <grexk> at omV0 ur HDD would be damage if it did'nt fall or u accidentally kick ur cpu
[12:26] <grexk> i guess the filesystem is just damage
[12:26] <omV0> grexk- damn.. i'm using reiserFS
[12:26] <Fator_Dee> omV0: look what the SMART info says about your hd's situation
[12:26] <r0d> is hardware quota enabled in the kernel by default?
[12:26] <thoreauputic> Fator_Dee: yeah :) It is a very bare-bones player, but it works well and looks nice ( and it can be configured to not show a screen when music only is playing)
[12:26] <Fator_Dee> omV0: sudo smartctl -a /dev/hdd
[12:27] <omV0> thanks Fator_Dee!
[12:27] <omV0> Fator_Dee: i get smartctl: command not found
[12:27] <Fator_Dee> omV0: or sudo smartctl -a /dev/hdd > smarthdd, to put the lines to a file called smarthdd
[12:27] <jacquesmerde> is it hypocritical to try and avoid all non-free software, yet have no problems pirating music?
[12:42] <zakann> I need some help
[12:42] <Fator_Dee> join flood
[12:42] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: I suggest we discuss religion and sex, since politics is now off the agenda
[12:42] <Amaranth> thoreauputic: Religion is worse than politics. :)
[12:42] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[12:42] <Fator_Dee> so sex it is
[12:42] <Amaranth> thoreauputic: And this channel is PG.
[12:42] <jacquesmerde> definitely....so....abortion, hey! and don't get me started on gay marriage... or rpm's to REALLY fire us up
[12:42] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: but not PC ? ;-)
[12:42] <Amaranth> so you have to talk about woo-hoos and ah-hahs
[12:42] <Amaranth> Sorry guys, he wouldn't stop.
[12:42] <Fator_Dee> I think he got the message now though
[12:42] <Amaranth> yeah
[12:42] <Church_of_FoamY> lol
[12:42] <Amaranth> quiet is better than a ban and kick, they can still see the conversation and such
[12:42] <Amaranth> I'll remove it in 10 minutes.
[12:42] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: and this from a guy who names his program "smeg" heheh
[12:42] <Fator_Dee> zakann: what do you need help with?
[12:42] <Amaranth> thoreauputic: Nothing wrong with a good swear word. The menu spec makes me use lots of them. :D
[12:42] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: :)
[12:42] <Burgundavia> smeg is only a swear word is small english pubs that serve good beer
[12:42] <jsgotangco> ok bye bye to you all
[12:42] <Lightboy> n e 1 know how to get quake3 running
[12:42] <dlh> hi
[12:42] <Lightboy> on ubuntuamd64
[12:42] <dlh> i have a very strange problem
[12:42] <Seveas> smeg su*s
[12:42] <Seveas> hi Amaranth ;)
[12:42] <dlh> after i install the ubuntu base system and reboot
[12:42] <Amaranth> heh
[12:42] <thoreauputic> Lightboy: that abbreviation only saved you typing one character...
[12:42] <dlh> then the linux OS don't wanna start
[12:42] <Lightboy> lol i actually missed the space key
[12:42] <dlh> it just says "Starting Ubuntu..." and that's it
[12:42] <dlh> any ideas?
[12:42] <thoreauputic> or maybe 3
[12:42] <Amaranth> Seveas: If I could figure out why gnome-menus hates me you'd love what I have planned for the next version.
[12:43] <Seveas> Amaranth, gnome-menus doesn't hate you, you just have to get to know it better
[12:54] <r0d> whats the point of that?? its nothing "/clear" cant fix
[12:54] <Amaranth> Seveas: pyxdg is what smeg uses, of course
[12:54] <Seveas> Amaranth, the menu simply uses alphabetical order
[12:54] <Seveas> i kinda like that
[12:54] <Amaranth> Seveas: No, it doesn't have to. You can reorder it however you want.
[12:54] <Amaranth> Seveas: That's what those arrows on smeg do, you move entries up and down.
[12:54] <Seveas> hmm
[12:54] <Amaranth> it's a kickass feature that doesn't work in gnome-menus :/
[12:54] <Amaranth> i should load up kicker, see if works there
[12:54] <othernoob> mmh, what should i download. a static .deb, a woody.deb or a sarge .deb ?
[12:54] <Seveas> othernoob, an ubuntu .deb
[12:54] <Seveas> or a sarge .deb if it's from before april 8
[12:54] <othernoob> Seveas: well..i would, but there isn't one yet
[12:54] <ogi_> Where should I put a xmms skin
[12:54] <othernoob> Seveas: http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/8.01-Preview-1/intel-linux/en/ ..
[12:54] <Seveas> ogi_, put the .tgz file in ~/.xmms/Skins
[12:54] <Seveas> ogi_, and try beep-media-player, it's a gtk2 port of xmms (ie: prettier)
[12:54] <Seveas> argh, opera
[12:54] <DJ-Bug> hey can soem one help me  please
[12:54] <Seveas> DJ-Bug, if you state your problem, someone could...
[12:54] <DJ-Bug> when i turn on the pc it comes on and gose to bott but leves me with blank screen
[12:55] <ogi_> Seveas..I'll use bmp if you find a announcement script to xchat for it
[12:55] <Seveas> ogi_, xmms plugins might work
[12:55] <ogi_> gotta try
[12:55] <DJ-Bug> ?
[12:55] <dewet> so, i screwed up and started using breezy since about a month ago, but things are untenable at the moment. would it be OK to simply reset my sources.list to hoary, and do a dist-upgrade?
[12:56] <Seveas> dewet, no
[12:56] <othernoob> Seveas: which one of those would you say i should get, the sarge.deb is from 10-May-2005
[12:56] <Seveas> you would need to reinstall
[12:56] <DJ-Bug> i have done that but same again
[12:56] <Seveas> othernoob, try the woody .deb then
[12:57] <Seveas> DJ-Bug, sorry that one was for dewet
[12:57] <othernoob> Seveas: ok, thanks
[12:57] <dewet> Seveas: damn. oh well, thanks.
[12:58] <othernoob> Seveas: just because i'm curious, what's different with the sarge debs from before/after april 8 ?
[12:58] <thoreauputic> othernoob: release date for Hoary
[12:59] <thoreauputic> othernoob: debian has moved, Hoary hasn't
[01:00] <othernoob> thoreauputic: so that means the debs after arent compatible ?
[01:00] <prasad> My ubuntu time and Bios time are different, How to set Biost time syc to ubuntu time ?
[01:00] <thoreauputic> othernoob: they may or may not be depending on changes
[01:00] <Seveas> othernoob, hoary released april 8 (froze even earlier) sarge debs from later times may cause dependencie issues
[01:00] <xoz> prasad: hwclock
[01:01] <Seveas> i'm on my balcony, in the sun, learning exams :)
[01:01] <othernoob> thanks :)
[01:01] <Fator_Dee> irc + learning to exams = not good
[01:01] <prasad> xoz : Thanx
[01:01] <Jay> Does someone fell that esd output sound some metal feeling compare  to ALSA output?
[01:02] <prasad> xoz: but why my bios and ubuntu time are different ?
[01:02] <Seveas> Fator_Dee, it is :)
[01:02] <dlh> so this is why the computer geeks love metal ...
[01:02] <Seveas> my exams are network security and distributed algorithms :)
[01:03] <thoreauputic> prasad: it depends how you answered the UTC question on install
[01:03] <xoz> prasad: maybe it is running ntpupdate?
[01:03] <thoreauputic> prasad: you can rerun base-config to change it
[01:03] <xoz> *ntpdate*
[01:03] <prasad> thoreauputic:my time zone is asia calcutta
[01:04] <thoreauputic> prasad: that isn't the issue
[01:04] <prasad> xoz: yes ntpdate is running
[01:04] <thoreauputic> prasad: either you use local or UTC time: if you chose the wrong one your time will be out
[01:04] <prasad> xoz: how todisable?
[01:04] <xoz> prasad: which means that the system is sync to a time server. during shutdown, your bios will be updated
[01:05] <xoz> prasad: disable /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[01:05] <thoreauputic> xoz: that almost certainly is not the problem
[01:06] <prasad> xoz: will /etc/init.d/ntpdate stop solve ?
[01:06] <thoreauputic> it's 90% sure to be that he has UTC set and is dual booting or similar
[01:06] <xoz> prasad: i think your question is confusing
[01:06] <thoreauputic> prasad: do you have a dual boot with windows?
[01:06] <xoz> prasad: you meant maybe timezone problem.. not the real time problem
[01:07] <prasad> xoz: time problem
[01:07] <prasad> thoreauputic: i have dual boot with fc3
[01:07] <thoreauputic> prasad: have you actually read what I told you above?
[01:07] <xoz> prasad: possible also that when you boot to window, it uses utc or not uses utc while linux is using the opposite.
[01:07] <saber_> got it: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5774254901&category=73387
[01:08] <prasad> xoz: no windows on my machine
[01:08] <prasad> xoz: i have only hoary and fc3
[01:09] <thoreauputic> prasad: read my lips: rerun base-config and change the time setting to whatever it isn't currently
[01:09] <thoreauputic> UTC/non-UTC
[01:09] <prasad> thoreauputic: yes i would run base-config again
[01:10] <xoz> prasad: make sure that both system agrees in setting utc or disabling it.
[01:10] <prasad> thoreauputic: but what sould i set ? coz i don't know what fc3 is runnig?
[01:11] <thoreauputic> prasad: set the opposite of what you have now on ubuntu
[01:11] <thoreauputic> assuming fc3 is correct
[01:11] <r0d> does ubuntu store the kernel source?
[01:11] <prasad> thoreauputic: yes, i would do that , thanx alot
[01:21] <Seveas> or apt-get linux-source-blabla (also your version)
[01:21] <deusx_> i'l try
[01:21] <r0d> Seveas,  right, but i asked if they come w/ sources. but i get ya. thx again
[01:21] <fulldisclosure> hi
[01:21] <fulldisclosure> when I play a xvid is slow in ubuntu, but if I try in a live CD it is normal
[01:21] <fulldisclosure> what can be the a posible reason
[01:21] <thoreauputic> fulldisclosure: you are hiding something, I can tell ;-)
[01:21] <Seveas> r0d, ah, then i must have misunderstood you, sorry
[01:21] <Seveas> fulldisclosure, do you play xvid from cd/dvd?
[01:22] <fulldisclosure> Seveas: HD or CD is the same result
[01:22] <Lightboy> so if n e one can help me with hoary amd64 and the nvidia drivers can u please let me know?
[01:22] <fulldisclosure> bad performance
[01:22] <Seveas> fulldisclosure, i think it is because dma is not switched on
[01:22] <Seveas> sudo hdparm -d /dev/$YOURDRIVE will tell you if it is on
[01:22] <r0d> Seveas, np hard to know whats up w/ the script kiddies flooding
[01:22] <Seveas> sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/$YOURDRIVE will enable it
[01:23] <fulldisclosure> yep
[01:23] <fulldisclosure> is enabled Seveas
[01:23] <fulldisclosure>  DMA modes:  mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
[01:23] <fulldisclosure>  UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 *udma2
[01:23] <fulldisclosure>  AdvancedPM=yes: mode=0x80 (128) WriteCache=enabled
[01:23] <fulldisclosure> and in the DVD/CDrw is *mdma2
[01:23] <ogi_> How do I change an icon them
[01:23] <ogi_> e
[01:23] <ogi_> no wait
[01:23] <ogi_> I got it
[01:23] <Seveas> hmm, then ENOCLUE here, sorry
[01:24] <liable> qotd 122 is < amorphix> bunzip2: linuxwacom-0.6.8.tar.bz2 is not a bzip2 file   < cahoot> amorphix: run 'file  linuxwacom-0.6.8.tar.bz2 '   < amorphix> linuxwacom-0.6.8.tar.bz2: HTML document text    < liable> you idget    >> amorphix<< liable: I dont have idget   < amorphix> is the name right?
[01:25] <fulldisclosure> Seveas: dma is on, so .. :?
[01:25] <fulldisclosure> any idea
[01:28] <hayden> how do i specify a wpa key to connect to a wireless network
[01:28] <Seveas> hayden, you need wpasupplicant for that
[01:28] <Seveas> and either bring up your interface manually or massively hack /etc/network/interfaces
[01:28] <Seveas> (i did the latter)
[01:29] <fulldisclosure> Seveas: can you help?
[01:29] <Seveas> fulldisclosure, as i said ENOCLUE,sorry
[01:29] <fulldisclosure> I dont understand "enoclue"
[01:29] <Seveas> means: i don't know
[01:30] <fulldisclosure> ok
[01:33] <deusx_> going to Multimedia System Selector and selectind ESD for both input and output its OK for tests, but still XMMS or BMP or MPlayer are freezeing on file play
[01:34] <hayden> Seveas ok thanks
[01:40] <DJ-Bug> any one know any thing about blank screen at start  up ?
[01:40] <Roberto-Cavalli> dit me chung may`
[01:40] <Roberto-Cavalli> hehehe
[01:40] <Fator_Dee> DJ-Bug: misconfigured xorg.conf?
[01:40] <Roberto-Cavalli> :P
[01:41] <mikl> DJ-Bug: I think you'll have to be more specific
[01:41] <DJ-Bug> i dont know much about linux is there any one who can help me
[01:41] <DJ-Bug> well it loads all my pc spece in the beginin
[01:41] <DJ-Bug> youy know the wite rittin
[01:41] <DJ-Bug> then it says the linux stuff then just gose blank
[01:42] <mikl> DJ-Bug: try pressing Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[01:42] <mikl> when that happens, that is
[01:42] <Roberto-Cavalli> ./www.chatvn.com 6667
[01:42] <DJ-Bug> so when screen gose blank ?
[01:42] <mikl> DJ-Bug: Yes...
[01:42] <DJ-Bug> ok
[01:42] <DJ-Bug> trying it now
[01:42] <mikl> DJ-Bug: then you should be able to log in to a text-console
[01:44] <DJ-Bug> is it the ubunu kernel memtest86+ ?
[01:44] <thoreauputic> DJ-Bug: no that choice will be to test memory
[01:44] <DJ-Bug> oh ok
[01:45] <thoreauputic> DJ-Bug: just choose the default ( top entry) on the boot menu
[01:45] <DJ-Bug> ok
[01:46] <whoiam> Hi all, I need some help with Dansguardian
[01:46] <DJ-Bug> kk i chose top entry just waitin for blank screen now
[01:48] <DJ-Bug> i prese ctrl + alt + back space and it just went to ritin then back blank
[01:49] <Seveas> DJ-Bug, hit <CTRl><ALT><f1>
[01:50] <Seveas> does that brring you back to a lot of text?
[01:50] <we2by> I can't play my dvd movie well
[01:50] <we2by> that damn thing free ever few seconds
[01:50] <we2by> freez
[01:51] <deusx_> huray!! made sound work :p
[01:51] <Seveas> we2by, is dma enabled?
[01:51] <DJ-Bug> now i am i a dos lookin screnn it asked me for my login and that and i loged in and said i got new mail but it is not in a windows and pointer form
[01:51] <deusx_> now mplayer just does not make the movie full screen when in fullscreen mode :/
[01:52] <deusx_> it's just in original size with black border filling the rest
[01:52] <ptlo> deusx_: try mplayer -vo sdl -fs ....
[01:52] <Seveas> DJ-Bug, ok, this means you have a b0rked xorg.conf
[01:52] <Seveas> DJ-Bug, has it worked earlier?
[01:52] <we2by> Seveas, how do I know that?
[01:52] <thoreauputic> deusx_: in the config file, specify "zoom" (or install xine: recommended)
[01:52] <deusx_> thanks
[01:52] <Seveas> we2by, sudo hdparm -d /dev/hdc
[01:53] <DJ-Bug> no the first time turned it on
[01:53] <Seveas> we2by, sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc enables dma, you might want to do that for hda too
[01:53] <Seveas> DJ-Bug, what kind of videocard do you have?
[01:53] <DJ-Bug> built in one
[01:53] <prasad> desux: mplayer vcd://1 -fs -zoom will make the film full screen
[01:53] <Seveas> DJ-Bug, can you type the following: tail -n100 /var/log/xorg.log | less
[01:54] <DJ-Bug> all of that is it ?
[01:54] <deusx_> thanks dude
[01:54] <Seveas> the | is a pipe symbol, usually located above the enter
[01:54] <Seveas> DJ-Bug, yes
[01:54] <we2by> /dev/hdc:
[01:54] <we2by>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[01:54] <we2by>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[01:54] <Seveas> we2by, did you use sudo?
[01:54] <hayden> Seveas, do u know how wpasupplicant works?
[01:55] <we2by> should I pull out the cd first?
[01:55] <we2by> yes, I did
[01:55] <Seveas> hayden, i'm using it right now, so tou might say yes :)
[01:55] <DJ-Bug> says canot open no such file or directory
[01:55] <hayden> Seveas, can you tell me how?
[01:55] <Seveas> we2by, that means you must load your motherboards drivers instead of ide-generic, ide-generic cannot handle dma
[01:55] <Seveas> we2by, please search the forums for more info
[01:56] <we2by> Seveas, what forum?
[01:56] <Seveas> hayden, first apt-get install wpasupplicant
[01:56] <Seveas> we2by, ubuntuforums.org
[01:56] <hayden> yep done that
[01:56] <Seveas> ok
[01:56] <Seveas> hang on
[01:56] <Seveas> do you use only wpa wireless networks?
[01:57] <DJ-Bug> seveas it says tail: cannot open ' var log xorg for reading: No such file or directort
[01:57] <Seveas> DJ-Bug, can you type the following: tail -n100 /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less
[01:57] <Seveas> and you need to use / instead of spaces, just like i type it
[01:58] <DJ-Bug> the 0 dont show up
[01:58] <Seveas> DJ-Bug, no, that's a correction i just made :)
[01:58] <hayden> Seveas, the one at home is
[01:58] <Seveas> hayden, ah you use non-wpa networks too?
[01:58] <hayden> umm mostly at home
[01:58] <hayden> but i might use non-wpa as well yea
[01:59] <DJ-Bug> ok ill test that now
[01:59] <Seveas> hayden, we can do this 2 ways: make a script to manually enable wpa, or let wpa be enabled on boot which means manual tweaking when you want to use non-wpa networks
[01:59] <Seveas> what do you prefer?
[02:00] <hayden> making the script
[02:00] <topyli> ahh. finally connected
[02:00] <we2by> Seveas, no luck
[02:01] <Seveas> hayden, one sec
[02:01] <hayden> ok
[02:02] <topyli> What is the ubuntu representation at debconf going to be like?
[02:02] <topyli> many folks?
[02:03] <DJ-Bug> -
[02:03] <Seveas> hayden, what is the name of your interface and what is the type?
[02:03] <hayden> u mean like wlan0
[02:04] <Seveas> ah, ndiswrapper?
[02:04] <hayden> yea
[02:05] <DJ-Bug> seveas when i type the 0 they dont show up the come up as just    < those gaps
[02:05] <Seveas> DJ-Bug, hmm...
[02:06] <DJ-Bug> :-/
[02:06] <Seveas> hayden, have you configured wpasupplicant already?
[02:06] <Seveas> DJ-Bug, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:07] <hayden> Seveas, no
[02:07] <slept> where are the files saved that customize xfce4 , there must be other files than the .xfce files ?
[02:08] <thoreauputic> ,config
[02:08] <Seveas> hayden, ok, i suppose you run a WPA TKIP network?
[02:08] <DJ-Bug> i just got a screen up now
[02:08] <hayden> Seveas, yep
[02:08] <toxicfume> hi all
[02:09] <DJ-Bug> i cannot start the x server it is likely it is not set up corectoly whould you like to view the x server output to diagnose the problem?
[02:09] <Seveas> DJ-Bug, yes you want to see that :)
[02:09] <toxicfume> I want to copy the org.conf file to my ubuntu installation...cause ubuntu doesn't display anything on my desktop once it boots into X, now how do i go about doing that in the terminal after logging in?
[02:10] <DJ-Bug> how do i config my x server ?
[02:10] <toxicfume> I have sent the xorg.conf file from the knoppix livecd via email to myself..how do i load it back in in ubuntu via term?
[02:11] <slept> I deleted everything with .xfce purged xfce but still it keeps the old messed up configuration , with a new created user it works fine.Are there  any other files then those in.config/xfce
[02:11] <Seveas> hayden, http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/52 <== the script
[02:11] <Seveas> hayden, http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/53 <== the script
[02:11] <DJ-Bug> do i type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:11] <Robinho_Peixoto> I it tou wanting to make a mirror of i386.  Which is the size of the repository i386?
[02:11] <Seveas> hayden, http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/54 <== the config, you need to change the last few lines
[02:11] <Seveas> Robinho_Peixoto, about 40Gb i believe
[02:11] <toxicfume> can someone help?
[02:11] <slept> DJ-Bug, yes
[02:11] <DJ-Bug> ok
[02:12] <DJ-Bug> woudl i like to auto detect my xsaerver ?
[02:13] <slept> toxicfum1, you can copy it with cp but why don't you just customize your config - whats the problem ?
[02:13] <hussam> Hoary has gnumeric 1.4.2   I rebuilt 1.4.3 from debian sources. YAY.  This is the first time I rebuild/backport a package.
[02:13] <hussam> Ubuntu rocks
[02:13] <hayden> ok thanks
[02:14] <DJ-Bug> how can i tell what video card i got ?
[02:14] <slept> DJ-Bug, lspci
[02:14] <DJ-Bug> wats that ?
[02:14] <slept> a command try it in terminal
[02:14] <Robinho_Peixoto> Seveas : how i make a mirror ?
[02:15] <Robinho_Peixoto> Seveas : do you know ?
[02:15] <DJ-Bug> i got a windo up now askin what my video card is and i got to chose from a list
[02:15] <Seveas> Robinho_Peixoto, there is a howto on the ubuntu site
[02:16] <slept> DJ-Bug, what do you know about your card
[02:16] <Seveas> Robinho_Peixoto, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/mirror/document_view
[02:16] <DJ-Bug> nothin i had it off a mate i got the name of my server and that is
[02:16] <DJ-Bug> it*
[02:17] <Robinho_Peixoto> Seveas, Thanks
[02:17] <thoreauputic> DJ-Bug: accept the default and move on
[02:17] <ACEa> what is wrong with latest libc6-dev ?  linker komplain that crt1.o has wrong format
[02:17] <ACEa> complain even
[02:17] <slept> DJ-Bug, go to a terminal type lspci
[02:17] <toxicfume> can someone help me?
[02:17] <thoreauputic> slept: he's in a console in the ncurses interface of dpkg-reconfigure
[02:18] <slept> he can swith to an other one
[02:18] <Seveas> tt
[02:18] <ali_> hi
[02:18] <thoreauputic> slept: he can, but generally the defaults for dpkg-reconfigure are pretty right
[02:18] <ali_> what's up?
[02:20] <slept> DJ-Bug, look at the result it tells you your hardware  -  Display controller:
[02:21] <slept> thoreauputic, they are but if you have nvidia or ati cards you might ant to use restricted modules
[02:21] <Amaranth> jacquesmerde: Sorry, was having computer troubles.
[02:21] <jacquesmerde> *gasp*
[02:22] <slept> DJ-Bug, did you find out ?
[02:22] <jacquesmerde> btw, i keep having gnome's cd player crash on me. just wondering if this is a common prob?
[02:22] <jacquesmerde> Amaranth, you are tough but fair
[02:23] <ACEa> anyone else having problems with crt1.o in linking?
[02:26] <slept> toxicfume, what video card do have ? you might have no x because of  a missing kernel module , then you knoppic config won't work aswell
[02:28] <Amaranth> everything that depends on gtk was just removed from my system
[02:28] <Amaranth> and i'm on gnome
[02:28] <ACEa> anyone else having problems with ld and libc6-dev 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13
[02:29] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: I guess that would cramp your style a bit...
[02:29] <Shufla> re
[02:29] <Amaranth> thoreauputic: Don't use breezy! ;)
[02:29] <Shufla> ahhh. breezy breave suicider :D
[02:30] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: don't worry - I've only had Hoary for a month ;)
[02:30] <Amaranth> gedit, my poor baby
[02:30] <Amaranth> and muine, by beloved
[02:30] <Fator_Dee> thoreauputic: and that's enough, it's *old* already :-p
[02:30] <Amaranth> and gnome-panel, the wench
[02:30] <thoreauputic> Fator_Dee: that's OK - so am I ;-)
[02:31] <Amaranth> brb :D
[02:31] <thoreauputic> Fator_Dee: fine wines are often old :D
[02:31] <Fator_Dee> thoreauputic: bah, wines my ...
[02:32] <Fator_Dee> ^_^
[02:32] <mrpete> Hi! Does anyone know if it is possible to use your own fid/vid values in powernowd?
[02:33] <theD3viL> Why my cdrom wont eject??! It says only /dev/cdrom faild to eject!
[02:34] <thoreauputic> theD3viL: try this: sudo cmod +s /usr/bin/eject (then try to eject again)
[02:34] <thoreauputic> sorry sudo chmod
[02:37] <Shufla> just 24 minutes to go :D
[02:37] <theD3viL> thoreauputic, no error, nothing happen ! :S
[02:37] <theD3viL> oh....its eject =)=)
[02:37] <theD3viL> wiiii
[02:37] <theD3viL> tnx :)
[02:37] <thoreauputic> theD3viL: no eject still ??
[02:37] <theD3viL> :>
[02:37] <Rolle> anybody keen on answering a question? ;-) How do I set up ubuntu so that when I make a new user, he/she get more sound etc by default without me having to add it afterwards?
[02:37] <thoreauputic> aha
[02:37] <theD3viL> jap
[02:37] <theD3viL> tnx :?
[02:37] <theD3viL> :*
[02:37] <Shufla> Rolle: more sound?
[02:38] <thoreauputic> theD3viL: it's now running suid root (a minor security risk)
[02:38] <thoreauputic> Rolle: just add the user to the audio group
[02:40] <Shufla> Rolle: or, from your poweruser do: for f in `groups | cut --delimiter=' ' -f 2-` ; do sudo newuser $f ; done
[02:40] <theD3viL> thoreauputic, what? minor means what?
[02:40] <Rolle> thoreauputic, I want all users added to the system being part of the soundgroup
[02:40] <Shufla> Rolle: it'll copy all groups you belnging to
[02:41] <thoreauputic> theD3viL: it means don't worry about it unless you are paranoid
[02:41] <zaydana> can somebody tell me if there is a way to chmod everything recursively except directories?
[02:41] <zaydana> say... i want to set everything in /var/www to 644 and all the directories to 755 ?
[02:41] <Shufla> Rolle: man adduser and man adduser.conf
[02:42] <Rolle> Shufla, man adduser.. *sigh* no shortcuts? ;-)
[02:42] <Rolle> Shufla, thx.. it is friday I really should stop working
[02:42] <Fator_Dee> hihihi, links is almost better than firefox :-p
[02:43] <dcraven_> zaydana: You could use 'find' like "find . -type f" I think will only return files.
[02:44] <zaydana> hmm k
[02:44] <Shufla> Rolle: good idea! :D and that's not so complicated as it seems to be
[02:44] <Shufla> 16 minutes... I can't stand the waiting...
[02:45] <zaydana> dcraven_, so how would i use that with chmod?
[02:46] <dcraven_> zaydana: You could do (test this somewhere first) something like "for i in `find /var/www/ -type f`; do chmod 644 $i; done".
[02:48] <dcraven_> zaydana: The actual command is between the double quotes :)
[02:48] <zaydana> ah cool
[02:49] <HcE> dcraven: a cleaner way is: "find /var/www -type f -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 644" IMHO
[02:49] <dcraven> HcE: Whatever works.
[02:49] <HcE> hehe
[02:49] <HcE> I think find + xargs are quicker than a for-loop
[02:50] <zaydana> nice, that works HcE
[02:50] <zaydana> thanks
[02:50] <HcE> zaydana: same for directories, just change -type f to -type d, and chmod them to 755
[02:50] <zaydana> coolios
[02:50] <zaydana> yeah i already had chmod -R 755 so didn't need to do that one :)
[02:50] <HcE> ah :)
[02:51] <dcraven> bash is fun!
[02:51] <Shuddertrix> yes, bash is real fun!
[02:51] <Shuddertrix> ;)
[02:54] <engine99> #cdlug
[02:54] <dcraven> ...
[02:55] <maxyvits> noob here looking to install gaim 1.3.0 tar.gz in ubuntu ... please help!
[02:56] <desplesda> maxyvits: are you running hoary?
[02:56] <maxyvits> ya
[02:56] <maxyvits> 5.04
[02:56] <engine99> #cdlug
[02:56] <tfar> hi
[02:56] <desplesda> okay, so you've got the source code to gaim 1.3.0 and you want to upgrade?
[02:56] <thoreauputic> engine99:  /join #cdlug maybe?
[02:57] <hussam> isn't gaim 1.3.0 is in backports?
[02:57] <maxyvits> geez, I don't no ... I suppose so.
[02:57] <tfar> how can i decrease my linux partition without losing data?
[02:57] <maxyvits> I'm really a noob
[02:57] <desplesda> it might be in the backports
[02:57] <dcraven> maxyvits: Yeah it's in backports. I'm running it now unfortunately.
[02:57] <desplesda> you could also try getting it from the breezy repo
[02:57] <desplesda> maybe
[02:58] <maxyvits> I extracted the source to my desktop
[02:58] <maxyvits> what do I do next?
[02:58] <Fator_Dee> maxyvits: read the readme
[02:58] <desplesda> maxyvits: you don't want to install from source
[02:58] <maxyvits> oh
[02:58] <desplesda> if you just want to upgrade your version of gaim, you can download the latest package
[02:58] <desplesda> the one in hoary is 1.1.4 and will stay that way forever, since hoary
[02:59] <desplesda> is considered stable
[02:59] <hussam> maxyvits: if you want to install from source, cd in terminal to folder, type ./configure then make then sudo make install
[02:59] <desplesda> maxyvits: do you know how to add extra repositories?
[02:59] <maxyvits> is that in synaptic?
[02:59] <desplesda> not quite
[02:59] <desplesda> okay, open up a terminal
[03:00] <hussam> maxyvits: but you should probably get it from backports
[03:00] <maxyvits> then I guess the answer is: no
[03:00] <maxyvits> I uninstalled gaim 1.14 first.
[03:00] <maxyvits> I guess I shouldn't have, eh?
[03:00] <desplesda> no no, you're ok
[03:01] <desplesda> what you need to do is download the latest version from the backports repository
[03:01] <Seveas> eeeek
[03:01] <Seveas> backports
[03:01] <maxyvits> how do I do that?
[03:01] <desplesda> well it's either that or get it from breezy
[03:01] <desplesda> :P
[03:01] <sylvan> Hi all! I need help! I'm trying to mount my homedir at school using SAMBA. I got it to work manually. The thing is, I need to set up a VPN client first, _then_ I can run "mount /etc/dtek_home".. So I need some way to set it up so the vpn client is started before mounting remote disks.. How can I do that?
[03:01] <desplesda> maxyvits: open up a terminal
[03:01] <maxyvits> and what's a backports repository?
[03:01] <maxyvits> ok
[03:01] <Seveas> or use the old version
[03:01] <maxyvits> done
[03:01] <desplesda> sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup
[03:02] <maxyvits> des: ok
[03:02] <maxyvits> did that
[03:02] <desplesda> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:02] <dcraven> Seveas: Bah that's no fun.
[03:02] <tfar> how do i resize my linux partition?
[03:03] <dcraven> tfar: gparted or qparted?
[03:03] <IcemanV9> maxyvits: i installed gaim 1.3.0 from package (gaim.sourceforce.net)
[03:03] <Seveas> tfar, boot from a livecd and use gparted/parted/qtparted
[03:03] <maxyvits> des: ok
[03:03] <dcraven> IcemanV9: Don't they just have RPMs there?
[03:03] <tfar> okay
[03:03] <desplesda> now add these lines to the end of that file:
[03:04] <thoreauputic> dcraven: they have an "autopackage" as well
[03:04] <IcemanV9> dcraven: don't recall if they do ...
[03:04] <desplesda> deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ubp hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[03:04] <HolyDevil> Hello, im intrested in installing linux, but i'm not sure my modem supports it... Does anyone know if the modem 'EA103' (USB) supports and have a driver for linux?
[03:04] <desplesda> deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ubp hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[03:04] <IcemanV9> dcraven: just autopackage
[03:04] <dcraven> thoreauputic: I see.
[03:04] <ivoks> anyone here knows perl? :)
[03:04] <Seveas> a little
[03:04] <ivoks> Seveas: could you help me with something? it isn't ubuntu related...
[03:04] <Seveas> ivoks, sure
[03:05] <Seveas> but #perl might be of more assistance :)
[03:05] <ivoks> Seveas: yeah, i know..
[03:05] <IcemanV9> dcraven: yea, they do have rpm
[03:05] <dcraven> IcemanV9: I just thought that was *all* they had.
[03:05] <maxyvits> should I separate both sentences by a hard return ("enter")
[03:05] <maxyvits> ?
[03:06] <sylvan> Nobody knows how to edit what programs run (in which order) at bootup?
[03:06] <desplesda> maxyvits: yes
[03:06] <dcraven> IcemanV9: Aside from source of course.
[03:06] <maxyvits> k
[03:06] <desplesda> now save and quit gedit
[03:06] <desplesda> and type sudo apt-get update
[03:06] <IcemanV9> dcraven: heh. exe (windoze), rpm, autopackage & source are what they have :)
[03:07] <dcraven> sylvan: I think you have some play in /etc/rcS.d/. They are run in alphnumeric order I beleive.
[03:07] <dcraven> IcemanV9: I've never tried this autopackage thing.
[03:07] <maxyvits> des: the sentences are exactly the same.
[03:08] <desplesda> maxyvits: i think you'll find they aren't
[03:08] <maxyvits> oh, they're not
[03:08] <maxyvits> oopsies
[03:08] <maxyvits> :D
[03:08] <desplesda> :)
[03:08] <sl3yker_Com_Linu> algem do brasil?
[03:08] <IcemanV9> dcraven: it worked as i installed gaim 1.3.0; autopackage reminded me of wise packaging (windoze side)
[03:08] <desplesda> now run sudo apt-get update
[03:08] <dcraven> IcemanV9: I should make one for my project just for kicks.
[03:08] <Choubaka> linux distros should standardise upon autopackage.
[03:08] <HolyDevil> Does anyone know if the modem 'EA103' (USB) supports and have a driver for linux?
[03:09] <maldito> I have a quick question.  Is there anyway to manually flush the cached memory, other than cycling the box.  It is to get around a vmware workstation problem.
[03:09] <Choubaka> cooperate to create dependency mapping and integration with native packaging systems.
[03:09] <thoreauputic> maldito: sync ?
[03:09] <Choubaka> because autopackage is smart. :)
[03:09] <desplesda> maldito: if you mean virtual memory then you can try swapoff && swapon -a
[03:09] <maxyvits> des: error message: Type 'dep' is not known on line 28 in source list /etc/apt/sources list
[03:10] <maldito> thoraeuputic: sync flushes the disk cache, I want to flush the memory
[03:10] <desplesda> maxyvits: may i /msg you?
[03:10] <maxyvits> absolutely
[03:10] <maldito> desplesda: thanks gonna try it now.
[03:11] <felipebisbal> hello to everybody... I need some  help from you :D
[03:12] <Kalidarn> is it possible to do network installs of Ubuntu? its not mentioned in the documentation
[03:12] <maldito> desplesda: no luck
[03:12] <desplesda> :(
[03:12] <Kalidarn> would likes to run a simple floppy install of it.
[03:12] <bhilton> I'm getting an error while setting up ndiswrapper for my wireless card.
[03:12] <bhilton> The error is...Can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build;
[03:12] <bhilton>   give the path to kernel sources with KSRC=<path> argument to make
[03:12] <thoreauputic> maxyvits: typo for "deb" ?
[03:12] <bhilton> I'm guessing I need to set up a ln of some sort.
[03:13] <dcraven> bhilton: Are you following the wiki page?
[03:13] <Kalidarn> can anyone hear me?
[03:13] <dcraven> Kalidarn: Pardon?
[03:13] <bhilton> I wasn't able to find anything there.
[03:13] <Kalidarn> i asked earlier today, but i never got any acknowlagement i said something
[03:13] <bhilton> Maybe it's my own oversite.
[03:13] <dcraven> bhilton: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[03:13] <Kalidarn> i thought that maybe the nickserv wasn't identifying me properly.
[03:13] <bhilton> Cool thanks!
[03:13] <thoreauputic> Kalidarn: that would be because you don't exist ;-)
[03:14] <Kalidarn> lol
[03:14] <desplesda> Kalidarn: we can hear you, but if nobody's answering then you can probably assume that nobody knows the answer to your problem
[03:14] <Kalidarn> lol
[03:14] <Kalidarn> so u mean ubuntu can't do floppy network installs
[03:14] <felipebisbal> i've allready installed kubuntu, and the resolution of the screen is 1024x768, but i rather more resolution (it's possible in windows), but in screen properties i cannot do it, there is no option for it, can I do it on another way?
[03:14] <Kalidarn> and it can only use CD.... and on a notebook without a cd drive, and where USB CDrives are still faulty, that means its impossible for me to install ubuntu right on it?
[03:14] <thoreauputic> Kalidarn: I believe it can be done from a debian floppy/cd but I don't know how, sorry
[03:15] <IcemanV9> Kalidarn: NetbootInstallHowto: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/NetbootInstallHowto
[03:16] <Kalidarn> okay
[03:16] <IcemanV9> Kalidarn: InstallWithFloppiesHowto: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallWithFloppiesHowto
[03:16] <Kalidarn> so how did u find that using the search engine?
[03:16] <IcemanV9> Kalidarn: your best friend - google :)
[03:16] <maldito> Kalidarn: damn, beat me to it.  Gotta love goole.
[03:17] <sylvan> dcraven: so where would be the appropriate place to put the startup of a vpn client?
[03:17] <felipebisbal> somebody can help me?
[03:18] <maldito> felispebisbal: yes, you can edit your xorg.conf file to use the resolution you want as long as it is supported.  I am sure that there is a gui for it, but I am used to the conf file.
[03:18] <Tsingi> I'm getting linking errors on a file crt1.o in /usr/lib  what's the easiest way to resource this file?
[03:18] <Tsingi> (new install)
[03:18] <IcemanV9> felipebisbal: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21984&highlight=video+resolution
[03:19] <maldito> felipebisal: I found the tool in ubuntu, it's called Screen Resolution under system > preferences, but I am not sure where it is on the kubuntu desktop.
[03:20] <dcraven> sylvan: I don't think I'm gonna be much help with that.
[03:21] <dcraven> felipebisbal: You may have to add larger resolutions to the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
[03:21] <maxyvits> yes thor: definitely a typo
[03:22] <Tsingi> can anyone tell me how to verify and/or replace an install file?
[03:22] <thoreauputic> maxyvits: am i massively lagged or are you just slow? ;-)
[03:23] <maxyvits> hahahaha
[03:23] <maxyvits> sorry ... I'm in a personal convo with des
[03:23] <dcraven> Tsingi: An install file as in a .deb?
[03:23] <sylvan> okay.. So if I want to start a program which I _know_ will ask me "are you sure", can I then somehow automatically pass it "y" on stdin?
[03:23] <thoreauputic> maxyvits: no worries :)
[03:23] <Tsingi> no, sorry, gcc is telling me /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/3.3.5/../../../crt1.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized
[03:24] <Tsingi> (/usr/lib/crt1.o)
[03:24] <sylvan> ah: echo "y" | myprog, worked
[03:24] <desplesda> sylvan: if you want to do less keystrokes then you can also do 'yes | yourprog'
[03:25] <dcraven> sylvan: Nice.. hehe.. The program may have a commandline switch as well.
[03:25] <dcraven> sylvan: The expect program is useful for situations like that too sometimes.
[03:25] <IcemanV9> sylvan: have u take a look at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/OpenVPNClientMiniHowto ??
[03:26] <AirWays> My irssi was stopped but it still running, as I  can see it in ps -x, how I can get it back?
[03:27] <dcraven> AirWays: You could always killall irssi and restart it.
[03:27] <yonil> I keep getting Permission Denied  when trying to run an application, even when i run with sudo ! (and everyone got executing permissions)... what can be the problem ?
[03:28] <dcraven> Tsingi: That's a weird one. Possible you are using gcc4 and that object file was compiled with gcc3? I dunno if that would be an issue or not.
[03:28] <Tsingi> dcraven: gcc (GCC) 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)
[03:29] <thoreauputic> Pop_pa_FrEaK: the *really nice people* on the IRC channel </joke>
[03:29] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> lol that is one good reason
[03:30] <thoreauputic> Pop_pa_FrEaK: the brilliant package management
[03:30] <no0tic> have anyone had problems in the last kernel update?
[03:30] <Shuddertrix> good community support, there's apt (pretty sure that theres something similar on SUSE, however..)
[03:30] <thoreauputic> Pop_pa_FrEaK: the 16000 plus available packages...
[03:30] <Shuddertrix> it's cleaner, too.
[03:31] <IcemanV9> Pop_pa_FrEaK: it JUST worked "out of the box"
[03:31] <GNAM> i've update an hoary i386 to latest kernel 2.6.10 with synaptic
[03:31] <dcraven> Pop_pa_FrEaK: If you came here to ask, then you wanna switch anyway right ;P
[03:31] <blight> anyone know where I might find a tomcat 5.5.9 package?
[03:31] <GNAM> menu.lst of grup - corrupted
[03:31] <Tsingi> dcraven: if I do `nm /usr/lib/crt1.o I` get `nm: /usr/lib/crt1.o: File format not recognized`
[03:31] <GNAM> x - don't start
[03:31] <GNAM> ah
[03:31] <GNAM> b
[03:31] <[HS] arnakin> could someone tell me on witch linux version is ubuntu based for webmin install ...
[03:31] <Shuddertrix> It will not eat your food, it will not destroy your flooring, and it will not put claret all over the boot of your motor.
[03:31] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> lol dcraven
[03:32] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> and ubuntu is #1 on distrowatch
[03:32] <netmonk> when i have a new kernel do i nee the older ones and if I don't, how do i remove them? anyone?
[03:32] <dcraven> Tsingi: That's weird...  I got a package called gmailfs via Synaptic. (http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem.html) GmailFS provides a mountable Linux filesystem which uses your Gmail
[03:33] <bigfoot> account as its storage medium. GmailFS is a Python application and uses the FUSE userland filesystem infrastructure to help provide the filesystem, and libgmail to communicate with Gmail. In order to use gmailfs, the info said that i must use fuse-source to compile appropriate modules for my running kernel. Can anyone tell me how to do this? Sorry for the long post.
[03:33] <Shuddertrix> It must be the gnome config that I haven't seen on other distros.
[03:34] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> ok brb need to install ubuntu
[03:34] <[HS] arnakin> pl someone tell me on witch linux version is ubuntu based ? is that debian ?
[03:34] <yonil> I keep getting Permission Denied  when trying to run an application, even when i run with sudo ! (and everyone got executing permissions)... what can be the problem ?
[03:34] <dcraven> Tsingi: It does. I dunno what else would cause that, but we have likely not exhausted all options. I have no idea though.
[03:34] <alkdevil> netmonk: if you verified that the new kernel _works_, you could delete the old ones, residing in /boot/. Make also sure that the link /vmlinuz and /boot/vmlinuz point to your new kernel
[03:34] <Shaquile> Damn.. I have /home on one partition that I intend to save. But when I get into the Installer Menu and are about to partition the harddrive it's not there, it have already made it's own suggested partitions.  I got it now...
[03:35] <felipebisbal> in ubuntu es nautilus... wich is the same command in kubuntu???????
[03:35] <Shuddertrix> RetardedMonkey: NTFS support comes read-only in the kernel.
[03:36] <RetardedMonkey> Alright that's awesome.
[03:36] <netmonk> at boot time i have this long list of kernels. I change it from menu.lst but after i upgrade to new kernel they all come back ;)
[03:36] <Tsingi> dcraven: more of the same
[03:36] <Riddell> felipebisbal: konqueror
[03:36] <Shuddertrix> felipebisbal: nautilus is to gnome as konqueror is to kde/kubuntu
[03:36] <Tsingi> dcraven: I'd like to try replacing the file somehow
[03:36] <GNAM> mee too netmonk
[03:36] <RetardedMonkey> I have a 200GB NTFS drive that I am trying not to format as well... however it seems to successfully write files to it, I might have to.
[03:36] <GNAM> menu.lst corrupted
[03:36] <GNAM> auau
[03:37] <ACEa> use lilo, it's simpler ;)
[03:37] <alkdevil> netmonk: in this case i would rather just move the old kernels away from boot, so the bootmanager does not find them, when it runs
[03:37] <dcraven> Tsingi: I'm trying to remember how to determine what package a file came in... I can't remember.
[03:37] <netmonk> alkdevil, i see
[03:37] <netmonk> thank you ;)
[03:37] <alkdevil> alkdevil: I used to run into situations where i was pretty happy to be able to boot up with the old kernel
[03:38] <dcraven> alkdevil: Talking to yourself again? ;P
[03:38] <Tsingi> dcraven: looking through package manager
[03:38] <alkdevil> whoops
[03:38] <dcraven> heh
[03:38] <bigfoot> anybody know how to compile with fuse-source?
[03:38] <RetardedMonkey> With the read-only support of NTFS, will I be able to install Ubuntu first, then backup everything from the NTFS drive onto DVD then reformat the NTFS drive into something of a more likeable file system?
[03:39] <alkdevil> alkdevil: alkdevil, you rule :o
[03:40] <dcraven> lol
[03:40] <ACEa> RetardedMonkey why not just use a liveCD ?
[03:40] <FlyingSquirrel32> anyone heard of connecting a blackberry to linux?
[03:40] <RetardedMonkey> livecd of ubuntu?
[03:40] <dcraven> FlyingSquirrel32: It's just bluetooth isn't it?
[03:40] <RetardedMonkey> basically.. i want windows gone.
[03:40] <RetardedMonkey> gone gone gone :)
[03:40] <refuze2looze> RetardedMonkey: yes, you just can't write to it (although it is possible to do so if you install some other stuff)
[03:40] <Tsingi> dcraven: I wonder if I could find it on the live cd?
[03:40] <FlyingSquirrel32> dcraven, no no bluetooth, at least not on mine. serial or usb.
[03:41] <RetardedMonkey> So there's a way of writing to an NTFS drive through Ubuntu?
[03:41] <dcraven> Tsingi: That's possible. I don't have a livecd to check.
[03:41] <Fator_Dee> RetardedMonkey: you could screw your files with writing to ntfs
[03:41] <refuze2looze> RetardedMonkey: there is a way.. but you probably should not depend on it..
[03:41] <alkdevil> does anyone else experience problems running azureus with jre-1.4.2_05? I have extremely slow downloads, which are much faster with btdownloadcurses (same time, same tracker). And yes, I have forwarded the bt-ports ....
[03:41] <felipebisbal> I cannot save changes in xorg.conf.... i've opened the file with konqueror... how can I save the changes?
[03:41] <refuze2looze> RetardedMonkey: why don't you burn the stuff to DVD before installing ubuntu?
[03:41] <refuze2looze> in windows
[03:42] <alkdevil> felipebisbal: make sure you can write to the directory
[03:42] <dcraven> felipebisbal: You need to be root.
[03:42] <alkdevil> felipebisbal: try /tmp
[03:42] <Tsingi> dcraven: nah, any suggestions on who to ask?
[03:42] <alkdevil> felipebisbal: and copy the file over using sudo
[03:42] <refuze2looze> felipebisbal: just do "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" in a terminal and edit it there
[03:43] <RetardedMonkey> refuze2looze: tis a great idea you speak of :P might do that.. thanks for your help.
[03:43] <refuze2looze> np
[03:43] <dcraven> Tsingi: I dunno.. I could always give you mine if you like.
[03:43] <felipebisbal> I've have done it, but i cannot change resolution still
[03:44] <Tsingi> dcraven: ok, let's try that
[03:44] <bigfoot> hello everyone! Is anyone familiar with compiling? I'm a 2 week old newbie into Linux/Ubuntu from Windows. Thank you.
[03:44] <Tsingi> dcraven: email?
[03:44] <IcemanV9> felipebisbal: did u restart X?
[03:44] <refuze2looze> bigfoot: do you have a specific question?
[03:44] <dcraven> Tsingi: http://arker.homelinux.org/~dcraven/crt1.o
[03:44] <FlyingSquirrel32> RetardedMonkey: I love your nickname, wish I had thought of that :-D
[03:44] <felipebisbal> restart X??  what's X??
[03:44] <RetardedMonkey> :P
[03:44] <RetardedMonkey> Where did you retrieve FlyingSquirrel32 from?
[03:45] <felipebisbal> restart computer?
[03:45] <Fator_Dee> FlyingSquirrel32: I think RetardedSquirrel would be better
[03:45] <alkdevil> felipebisbal: X is the graphic part
[03:45] <jmjones> anyone know how to configure a synaptics touchpad on a laptop so it does vertical scrolling?
[03:45] <RetardedMonkey> I also have the alias RetardedPanda
[03:45] <refuze2looze> felipebisbal: X is the windows-like GUI above the linux kernel.. CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE restarts X
[03:45] <alkdevil> felipebisbal: just press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[03:45] <FlyingSquirrel32> my boss's wild imagination, go figure...
[03:45] <FlyingSquirrel32> I don't have that kind of imagination.
[03:45] <dcraven> I like RetardedDcraven
[03:46] <alkdevil> felipebisbal: after you make sure to run command-line irc .....
[03:46] <bigfoot> hello refuze2looze: it's about compiling with fuse-source. The text of another package says that I need to compile with "fuse-source" in order to make things work. But I have no idea what this is all about. Coming from a point and click Windows life...
[03:46] <RetardedMonkey> I do get kicked out of places though
[03:46] <reka> well, there *are* flying foxes.
[03:46] <RetardedMonkey> 'Your name is offensive'
[03:46] <RetardedMonkey> or
[03:46] <RetardedMonkey> 'That nickname is not acceptable'
[03:46] <IcemanV9> felipebisbal: you should be able to see new resolution after restart X
[03:46] <reka> RetardedMonkey: maybe you should stay out of #monkeys then. ;-)
[03:47] <RetardedMonkey> :P
[03:47] <RetardedMonkey> That's what im going to miss without Windows
[03:47] <RetardedMonkey> Gaming :P
[03:47] <hayden> can u ppl see this?
[03:47] <refuze2looze> bigfoot: there's fuse-source package in synaptic. there isn't a binary package for what you're trying to instlall?
[03:47] <RetardedMonkey> But hey, games will only be good once they support linux.
[03:48] <Tsingi> dcraven: they're different
[03:48] <nubbe> is there any way to make Nautilus display a simple list and/or (most importantly) choose/mark with the mouse like it's possible in icon-view?
[03:48] <bigfoot> refuze2looze, well, I don't think so. What i want to install is gmailfs. but i couldn't find a binary in either synaptic or the creator's homepage.
[03:48] <we2by> games on linux sucks
[03:48] <dcraven> Tsingi: Different as in it works?
[03:48] <we2by> :P
[03:48] <refuze2looze> RetardedMonkey: there's quite a lot of games supported nowadays actually, especially with cedega
[03:48] <Shuddertrix> Cedega helps a lot.
[03:48] <dcraven> Tsingi: I'm thinking they should be different heh
[03:48] <RetardedMonkey> Good to hear
[03:48] <Tsingi> dcraven: no, haven't actually swapped them yet, moveing slow here:)
[03:49] <RetardedMonkey> Anyway, thanks for all your helps.
[03:49] <Fator_Dee> we2by: well, everyone has the right to an opinion
[03:49] <dcraven> Tsingi: :)
[03:49] <dcraven> we2by: ETF rules!
[03:49] <refuze2looze> bigfoot: i see a package for gmailfs in synaptic. do you have multiverse and universe enabled?
[03:49] <we2by> dcraven, ETF?
[03:49] <we2by> I play ET
[03:49] <Tsingi> dcraven: why should they be different?  mine is bigger than yours by 16 bytes
[03:49] <reka> nubbe: i'd be interested in an answer afaik you can't select multiples in list mode without holding shift or ctrl.
[03:49] <we2by> but dunno what ETF is
[03:49] <dcraven> Team fortress using the et engine.
[03:50] <we2by> cool
[03:50] <dcraven> we2by: www.etfgame.com
[03:50] <bigfoot> refuze2looze, yes i have both multi and uni enabled. And i've already downloaded gmailfs package. But now I have no idea what to do.
[03:50] <we2by> like hl???
[03:50] <dcraven> we2by: No. Like q3tf.
[03:50] <nubbe> reka, my experience too  :(
[03:50] <we2by> dcraven, like tf with hl online?
[03:50] <dcraven> we2by: Yeah it's like that.
[03:50] <dcraven> Tsingi: I thought different might be good since we suspect yours was corrupt.
[03:51] <we2by> cool
[03:51] <choichoi> hello
[03:51] <dcraven> we2by: Engineers, paramedics, soldiers, HW etc etc.
[03:51] <dcraven> choichoi: Hi.
[03:51] <reka> nubbe: maybe try a different fm if you're desperate.  i just resorted to using icon view in 50%
[03:51] <we2by> I wabba be the h. guy
[03:51] <choichoi> I would like to know if it is possible to use 32 bits program over 64bits system ?
[03:51] <Tsingi> dcraven: yeah, but I get the same error, must be something else.
[03:51] <we2by> with the machine gun :)
[03:51] <dcraven> we2by: Go for it.
[03:52] <Tsingi> dcraven what does gcc --version say on your box?
[03:52] <dcraven> Tsingi: 3.3.6
[03:53] <Tsingi> hmm, wonder why I have 3.3.5, no matter they're pretty close
[03:53] <we2by> cool
[03:53] <bigfoot> refuze2looze, actually the creator's homepage has more info on installing the package than Synaptic does. But I'm not technical enough to understand it. 8-(
[03:53] <nubbe> reka, not desperate yet, just thought it SHOULD be possible to do that...
[03:53] <we2by> :=)
[03:53] <refuze2looze> bigfoot: what happens when you try to mount it now?
[03:53] <dcraven> dcraven: Actually that should say 4.0.. Thanks for reminding me.. I changed the symlink.
[03:53] <bigfoot> how do i mount? Can I mount in Nautilus?
[03:53] <dcraven> There now I'm talking to myself.
[03:53] <Fator_Dee> dcraven: your body lacks caffeine
[03:54] <Shuddertrix> bigfoot: no, use the fstab for gmailfs
[03:54] <alkdevil> hehe
[03:54] <choichoi> no 64 bits users here ?
[03:54] <spektr> I'm missing the man pages for the glibc library functions. Does anybody know to which package they belong?
[03:54] <refuze2looze> bigfoot: you have to add an entry in fstab for it and then mount it.. are you familiar with mounting drives?
[03:54] <Tsingi> dcraven: is there a list I can post to?  This is pretty serious.  I can't compile.
[03:54] <IcemanV9> dcraven is under alkdevil's spell! (for talking to himself)
[03:54] <bigfoot> Shuddertrix, hi. what's fstab? and how do i use it?
[03:54] <dcraven> Fator_Dee: I'm trying to remedy that.
[03:55] <bigfoot> refuze2looze, the only familiarity i have with mounting drives is when I put in a cd into my cdrom drive... it plays automatically! 8-)
[03:55] <refuze2looze> bigfoot: try to skip down to "Using GmailFS" on this page http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem.html
[03:55] <alkdevil> dcraven: spell, spell *pulls out his lightsaber*
[03:55] <Shuddertrix> go down and read Using gmailfs.. edit your fstab with 'sudo gedit /etc/fstab'
[03:55] <dcraven> Tsingi: You could try ubuntu-devel, but I'd search the forum first. And don't tell them I sent you... haha
[03:55] <bigfoot> refuze2looze, okay. So you're saying we don't have to worry about the "Installing gmailfs" part?
[03:55] <Tsingi> hehe
[03:56] <Tsingi> on irc?
[03:56] <refuze2looze> bigfoot: when it tells you to create an entry in fstab what you have to do is open up console and type in "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" and copy exactly what they have to the end of it
[03:56] <Shuddertrix> bigfoot: If you used the debian package, you already installed it.
[03:56] <dcraven> Tsingi: Mailing list. Or irc I suppose. Both exist.
[03:56] <we2by> dcraven, thanks alot man
[03:56] <refuze2looze> bigfoot: and then the mounting part has to be also done as root, put "sudo" in front of the mount command in terminal
[03:56] <Shuddertrix> refuze2looze: Not exactly.
[03:56] <bigfoot> oh, i see. whew, one step done. yahoo. okay, on to the next step: mounting.
[03:56] <Tsingi> dcraven: k, thanks
[03:56] <jbailey> spektr: manpages-dev
[03:56] <pfp> spektr: manpages-dev
[03:56] <reka> nubbe: i agree.  and if it was implemented, i'd use it.
[03:57] <refuze2looze> Shuddertrix: oh yeah, the username and password..
[03:57] <dcraven> Tsingi: Hard to say how OT that is. It might be relevent. Have you been dabbling in breezy at all?
[03:57] <felipebisbal> I did the thing you told me (Ctrl + Alt + backspace) and it fail...
[03:57] <Shuddertrix> And the location of the perl file
[03:57] <Tsingi> no, I just installed yesterday, 5.04
[03:57] <Shuddertrix> It's /usr/share/gmailfs/gmailfs.py
[03:57] <felipebisbal> the screen was black, just with letters, no graphics
[03:57] <refuze2looze> and path of mount point
[03:57] <Shuddertrix> Python, i mean.
[03:57] <alkdevil> felipebisbal: yeah, sorry. I should have told you that all the graphical stuff restarts then
[03:57] <dcraven> we2by: No problem. I may just see you in a game later ;)
[03:57] <spektr> pfp, jbailey: thank you!
[03:57] <alkdevil> felipebisbal: it obviously killed your chat client as well
[03:57] <thoreauputic> Tsingi: have you installed build-essential ?
[03:57] <Shuddertrix> Your fstab should have a line like
[03:58] <refuze2looze> bigfoot: use /gmail or something like that for the path of mount point, and don't forget to create it "sudo mkdir /gmail" before trying to mount it
[03:58] <felipebisbal> I've done to reboot and undo the change i did
[03:58] <Tsingi> thoreauputic: not sure what that is, although is sounds important:)
[03:58] <alkdevil> felipebisbal: are you sure that you specified a valid resolution when you edited the config file?
[03:58] <thoreauputic> Tsingi: install it right away
[03:58] <thoreauputic> Tsingi: :)
[03:58] <refuze2looze> bigfoot: good luck i have to go now
[03:58] <felipebisbal> yes... is the resolution that windows use
[03:58] <felipebisbal> 1268x800
[03:58] <thoreauputic> Tsingi: you can't compile without the stuff in that
[03:59] <alkdevil> felipebisbal: can you switch back to the character terminal (ctrl+alt+f1) to check the error messages there
[03:59] <maxyvits> Hey des, got gaim working!
[03:59] <alkdevil> felipebisbal: wait
[03:59] <dcraven> thoreauputic: Doesn't sound like that kinda problem, but it might do something magical.
[03:59] <maxyvits> the new version too
[03:59] <Tsingi> Oh, I installed a lot of stuff.  I'm developing with GTK
[03:59] <Shuddertrix> /usr/share/gmailfs/gmailfs.py /mnt/gmailfs gmailfs noauto,username=whatever,password=whatever,fsname=whatever
[03:59] <alkdevil> felipebisbal: you come back to X with Strg+alt+f6 (keep that in mind :)
[03:59] <dcraven> thoreauputic: It'd be cool if that was it.
[03:59] <thoreauputic> dcraven: yes :)
[03:59] <alkdevil> felipebisbal: you come back to X with ctrl+alt+f6 (keep that in mind :)
[03:59] <bigfoot> Shuddertrix, okay, i've opened up terminal, ran  "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" and got gedit open up with a file called fstab.
[03:59] <lazarus> How to fix this? "You appear to be using the Firefox package provided by Ubuntu Linux. Ubuntu distributed a new version of Firefox which contains the security fixes from Firefox 1.0.4, however, they did not update the version number, so we have no way to tell whether your copy of Firefox contains the security fixes or not."
[03:59] <Shuddertrix> add what I typed up there, using your own username, password, and fs name
[04:00] <maxyvits> lazarus: it's in about:config
[04:00] <alkdevil> felipebisbal: hmm, have you tried switching between the resolutions with Ctrl+alt++ and ctrl+alt+- ?
[04:00] <thoreauputic> lazarus: vendor string - change to 1.0.4
[04:00] <lazarus> maxyvits, Thank you.
[04:00] <Fator_Dee> lazarus: where did you get that?
[04:00] <Shuddertrix> mount it with the command 'sudo mkdir /mnt/gmailfs && sudo mount /mnt/gmailfs'
[04:01] <Tsingi> thoreauputic: no, I don't have it installed, asking me for a disc for some reason, get back to you
[04:01] <dcraven> All of this etf talk makes me wanna go play.
[04:01] <bigfoot> i'll add it to the bottom of the fstab file right? and what do i put for fsname?
[04:01] <bigfoot> anything?
[04:01] <Shuddertrix> chmod the directory if need be (with 'chmod 755 /mnt/gmailfs') and enjoy your new 2.2gb drive space
[04:01] <maxyvits> change vendor string to 1.0.4
[04:01] <Shuddertrix> yeah, at the bottom
[04:01] <shanon> Can someone give a pointer on how I can install mplayer? I am having dependency problems following the unofficial guide.
[04:01] <hussam> how do I make a .deb package from source.tar.gz ?
[04:01] <Shuddertrix> use a random name for the fsname
[04:01] <thoreauputic> Tsingi: yes, it's o the install disc
[04:01] <thoreauputic> *on
[04:01] <Tiboz> hey all
[04:01] <gromf> hello
[04:02] <lazarus> Fator_Dee, from firefox home page for extension.
[04:02] <Shuddertrix> the files get emailed in your gmail, you can set up a gmail filter to filter that fsname to a different gmail folder.
[04:02] <Tiboz> anyone knows when breezy will be usable ?
[04:02] <dcraven> Tsingi: You can comment out the CD source near the top of /etc/apt/sources.list if you want to get all of your packages from online.
[04:02] <gromf> Can someone help me with the livecd ?
[04:02] <dcraven> Tiboz: Late summer.
[04:02] <maxyvits> speaking of gmail, is there a gmail notifier for linux?
[04:02] <Tiboz> dcraven: ok thanks
[04:02] <dcraven> maxyvits: mail-notification does that.
[04:02] <Tsingi> thoreauputic: ahh
[04:02] <Shuddertrix> maxyvits: mail-notification or the firefox extension
[04:02] <thoreauputic> Tsingi: success?
[04:03] <gromf> I have a litlle problem with my laptop and the livecd...
[04:03] <bigfoot> Shuddertrix, pardon my ignorance but what's the significance of fsname?
[04:03] <dcraven> maxyvits: Or write a little script using python-libgmail sounds fun too :)
[04:03] <Shuddertrix> What I just said up there, and to help you not get random files in your gmail's file system
[04:03] <Shuddertrix> Also, not having it will make gmailfs not mount.
[04:03] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> I'm back and have ubuntu installed
[04:03] <reka> gromf: just ask the question :-)
[04:03] <Tsingi> thoreauputic: installed
[04:04] <dcraven> Pop_pa_FrEaK: You like?
[04:04] <Tiboz> dcraven: why is it taking so long ?
[04:04] <thoreauputic> Tsingi: well, see if you can build now
[04:04] <Tiboz> it was much shorter for hoary
[04:04] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> dcraven so far so good
[04:04] <dcraven> Tiboz: Major changes.
[04:05] <Tiboz> ok
[04:05] <bigfoot> Shuddertrix, i tried to mount it as you said, but i got this response in terminal: " old style mounting not supported"
[04:05] <Tiboz> what changes ?
[04:05] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> but use to kde look so will have to get use to gnome
[04:05] <dcraven> Tiboz: gcc 4 is a biggie.
[04:05] <Shuddertrix> Odd, I am getting the same thing..
[04:05] <Tiboz> ok
[04:05] <Tiboz> :)
[04:05] <Tsingi> thoreauputic: didn't change anything tho
[04:05] <dcraven> Tiboz: X refactoring.
[04:05] <Tsingi> thoreauputic: I did that, same error
[04:05] <thoreauputic> Tsingi: rats :(
[04:05] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> downloading updates right now
[04:05] <bigfoot> Shuddertrix, so you have a gmail account, too? isn't it great?
[04:05] <Tsingi> thoreauputic: I think that file is a stub for dependancies, It didn't grab any
[04:06] <thoreauputic> Tsingi: ah well, worth a try
[04:06] <jac1> hi@all
[04:06] <Tsingi> thoreauputic: yes
[04:06] <bigfoot> hi jac1
[04:06] <dcraven> Pop_pa_FrEaK: There is always kubuntu as well. Or install KDE with apt.
[04:06] <reka> Pop_pa_FrEaK: well, you could install kde.  and then there's kubuntu
[04:06] <dcraven> teehee
[04:06] <Shuddertrix> Had mine since blogger.
[04:06] <Tiboz> dcraven: thanks for the informations
[04:06] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> lol
[04:06] <Tsingi> thoreauputic: I'll ask on devel
[04:06] <Shuddertrix> Was one of the first people to get one.. heh
[04:06] <thoreauputic> Tsingi: yes it's a metapackage
[04:06] <reka> dcraven: i loathe you :-)
[04:06] <dcraven> lol
[04:07] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> downloading right now at 366 kbps
[04:07] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> sweet
[04:07] <bigfoot> so what do we do now that i get that terminal response " old style mounting not supported"?
[04:07] <[HS] arnakin> pl someone could help config samba ?? /q me !! thx
[04:07] <[HS] arnakin> pl someone could help config samba ?? /q me !! thx
[04:07] <jac1> I've got a problem with my X.org... ( i apt-getted the nvidia glx and kernel, nut now, when i try to run a OpenGl app, my server crashes...)
[04:08] <Fator_Dee> jac1: did you enable it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[04:08] <jac1> yes
[04:08] <Fator_Dee> jac1: look at the xorg.logs
[04:08] <jac1> ok....
[04:08] <Fator_Dee> there should be something
[04:09] <IcemanV9> [HS] arnakin: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[04:09] <[HS] arnakin> pl someone could help config samba ?? /q me !! thx !! got some speed problems, cant copy any files or just really some files always sane error : path too long or something like that pl help
[04:09] <jac1> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load GLX
[04:09] <bigfoot> Shuddertrix, have you been able to configure gmailfs on your computer ?
[04:10] <dcraven> jac1: does "lsmod | grep nvidia" show anything?
[04:10] <bigfoot> i meant set up... Shuddertrix
[04:10] <[HS] arnakin> ty
[04:10] <jac1> nvidia               4569532  8
[04:10] <toxicfum1> hi all
[04:10] <dcraven> jac1: Well there goes my idea then :)
[04:10] <jac1> :-(
[04:10] <jac1> ty
[04:10] <jac1> for trying
[04:11] <toxicfum1> i opened xorg.conf to make some changes ..but now when i press ctrl+o to save..it doesn't let me..it says i have no permissions to open file for writing...how do i save this file now?
[04:11] <Fator_Dee> toxicfum1: edit it with sudo
[04:11] <toxicfum1> Fator_Dee: how?
[04:11] <Fator_Dee> toxicfum1: as in, "sudo gedit filetoedit"
[04:11] <dcraven> toxicfum1: You need to edit it as root. For now you can save it in your /home or /tmp or something and then copy it as sudo.
[04:11] <toxicfum1> ah okay, thanks
[04:11] <Fator_Dee> toxicfum1: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:12] <Tiboz> better save it in /tmp than in /home
[04:12] <Tiboz> no the contrary sorry
[04:12] <Fator_Dee> toxicfum1: you can replace gedit with an editor you like
[04:12] <Tiboz> in /home than in /tmp
[04:12] <Shuddertrix> It used to work, must be a new package.
[04:12] <dcraven> jac1: There may be some useful info in the lines around that error in the log.
[04:12] <reka> wouldn't editing the file itself be more efficient?
[04:12] <dcraven> jac1: s/around/surrounding
[04:12] <Shuddertrix> perhaps fixed in gmailfs 0.4, that I believe apt doesn't have..
[04:12] <gromf> Ok, when I boot the livecd, it asks me if I want to load a cdrom driver from a floppy...
[04:13] <dcraven> reka: Yeah, but if he just spent an hour making changes, he may not want to do it all over again.
[04:13] <bigfoot> Shuddertrix, alright. so i guess that means getting the files from the creator's website, correct?
[04:13] <jac1> (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized
[04:13] <jac1> (II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture
[04:13] <jac1> (==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled
[04:13] <jac1> (==) NVIDIA(0): Silken mouse enabled
[04:13] <jac1> (**) Option "dpms"
[04:13] <jac1> (**) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled
[04:13] <jac1> (II) Loading extension NV-CONTROL
[04:13] <jac1> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load GLX
[04:13] <toxicfum1> Fator_Dee: well i typed sudo nano xorg.conf earlier..and still it didn't let me say
[04:13] <toxicfum1> Fator_Dee: well i typed sudo nano xorg.conf earlier..and still it didn't let me save
[04:13] <Shuddertrix> jac1: #flood next time.
[04:13] <dcraven> jac1: You shouldn't paste stuff like that in an IRC channel.
[04:14] <Shuddertrix> dcraven: unless it's #flood
[04:14] <reka> jac1: lucky your nick's jac1 and not jacl :-)
[04:14] <Fator_Dee> toxicfum1: well, that's interesting :-\
[04:14] <toxicfume> Fator_Dee: any other way? :S
[04:14] <Fator_Dee> toxicfum1: I think you have to enable the root write to the file
[04:15] <Fator_Dee> toxicfume: as in, the permissions won't let you write to it, even if you are root
[04:15] <bigfoot> Shuddertrix, please confirm the next step. Thank you.
[04:15] <gromf> It says me "No common CD-ROM drive was detected"
[04:15] <dcraven> toxicfume: That's crazy.
[04:15] <jac1> bye...
[04:15] <toxicfume> Fator_Dee, dcraven: that's what it says when i press ctrl x to exit and then Y
[04:16] <Fator_Dee> toxicfume: do a sudo chmod u+w xorg.conf
[04:16] <dcraven> toxicfume: I'm curious to see what "ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf" looks like.
[04:17] <toxicfume> actually it works now :S
[04:17] <Fator_Dee> :-<
[04:17] <dcraven> heh
[04:17] <gromf> What can I do to get rid of that ?
[04:17] <dcraven> Them some crazy permissions when root can't save.
[04:17] <Fator_Dee> dcraven: not crazy, just not writeable
[04:17] <bigfoot> I found  gmailfs-0.4.tar.gz on the gmailfs webpage. Is that the only file i need to download?
[04:17] <thoreauputic> dcraven: in case you didn't see/ are interested, Tsingi 's problem was an error in the new binutils package
[04:18] <bigfoot> or do i need to download fuse and libgmail from the web too?
[04:18] <Fator_Dee> dcraven: although it is crazy, shouldn't that be writeable by default?
[04:18] <Shuddertrix> bigfoot: working on it
[04:18] <bigfoot> okay.
[04:18] <dcraven> thoreauputic: An error? Was the file corrupt or something in the package?
[04:18] <thoreauputic> dcraven: not sure - they are fixing it as we speak
[04:19] <dcraven> Fator_Dee: Yes. It's writable as root by default.
[04:19] <dcraven> thoreauputic: in #ubuntu-devel
[04:19] <dcraven> ?
[04:19] <thoreauputic> yes
[04:20] <Shuddertrix> It's not one for the newbie to tackle. I might have to create a how-to..
[04:20] <reka> gromf: might help: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4447.html
[04:20] <dcraven> thoreauputic: THanks. I'm actually quite curious.
[04:20] <reka> gromf: search for the post by "bluewool"
[04:20] <gromf> reka: thanks a lot, I will see that.
[04:21] <MrErnest> question: I have 2 hard drives, and I want to use ubuntu 5.04, intelx86 on one of the hard drives, I'm also using the ext2fs file system on it. How do I make a bootable cd? to start the installation?
[04:22] <dcraven> MrErnest: The install ISO is bootable.
[04:22] <MrErnest> but, im not able to make a bootable cd
[04:22] <MrErnest> i used nero to make one
[04:22] <dcraven> MrErnest: You burned the iso to a CD?
[04:22] <MrErnest> iso 1
[04:22] <MrErnest> yes the files after i unzipped them
[04:22] <reka> MrErnest: that's not how you do it.
[04:23] <thoreauputic> MrErnest: ? unzipped what?
[04:23] <dcraven> MrErnest: I don't know nero, but I'm sure it must burn iso images.
[04:23] <IcemanV9> MrErnest: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BurningIsoHowto
[04:23] <dcraven> MrErnest: Oh my.
[04:23] <thoreauputic> MrErnest: just burn it as an image
[04:23] <reka> MrErnest: you need to select "burn from image" or something similar, and then select the ISO file.
[04:23] <MrErnest> ill take a look at that one iceman
[04:23] <dcraven> Is this nero free?
[04:23] <djtansey> i am running evolution 2.2.1 and am having a serious problem. my computer is downloading new messages from my pop server, but then isn't showing them! i've seen my unread messages count go up by a hundred the past few days but have no way to see them (except web interface, so i know they're there.) i have nothign hidden in the view-> menu. what else could it be? i have 17000 messages. is there a size limit?
[04:23] <MrErnest> ah, ok, ill get on it :-) thanks
[04:23] <MrErnest> nope nero full version
[04:24] <thaytan> anyone else on breezy suffering from totally broken menu shortcut keys?
[04:24] <dcraven> Do people buy nero or warez it?
[04:24] <thoreauputic> thaytan: most people on breezy are suffering ;)
[04:24] <reka> thaytan: have you seen the channel topic?
[04:24] <toxicfume> guys
[04:24] <reka> dcraven: i got mine free with my dvd-drive
[04:24] <toxicfume> ubuntu does not display on my laptop..how do i fix that? :s
[04:24] <dcraven> reka: Ahh.
[04:25] <dcraven> reka: You a good boy :)
[04:25] <thaytan> reka: have now, but that's well after following jdub onto breezy :-P
[04:25] <reka> dcraven: i still loathe you. :-)
[04:25] <dcraven> haha
[04:25] <charlie> Hi! I`m looking for a good sources.list with lots of good resp`s.. Where can I find one ?
[04:26] <reka> charlie: ubuntuguide.org
[04:26] <NicP> what do you need thats not in universe charlie?
[04:26] <Burgundavia> morning Seveas
[04:26] <dcraven> charlie: I suggest you just use the ubuntu restricted main universe and multiverse ones. Otherwise you'll get some conflicting packages some day.
[04:26] <dcraven> reka: :(
[04:26] <Tsingi> thoreauputic: dcraven: It's a problem with the ubuntu release, getting fixed.  Thanks for your help.
[04:26] <Burgundavia> charlie, almost all of what you need is inthe official repos
[04:26] <thoreauputic> charlie: as a generalisation, 3rd party repos are bad news
[04:26] <Lonestar> Hey, can anyone give me a hand with something? Having some trouble with compiling in ubuntu after apt-get updating this mornign.
[04:26] <dcraven> Tsingi: Cool. Nice find :)
[04:27] <Burgundavia> charlie, what isn't there is in the backports, but they might cause you issues