[11:41] <m_anish> !windows
[11:41] <m_anish> !computers
[11:41] <ikonia> m_anish: please stop
[11:41] <ikonia> bong1: if you don't need it - delete it
[11:41] <m_anish> ikonia, i'm sorry. I was just showing somebody around. is there a sandbox channel?
[11:42] <ikonia> m_anish: make one
[11:42] <cfhowlett> m_anish, /join m_anish
[11:44] <bong1> !windows
[11:44] <m_anish> ikonia, ^^
[11:44] <ikonia> m_anish: what ?
[11:45] <m_anish> ikonia, another "irc irritant"
[11:45] <ikonia> m_anish: no, he's just used the bot once
[11:45] <ikonia> thats fine
[11:47] <m_anish> ikonia, sorry to be creating noise. I wanted to show a beginner his way around IRC, while acting like a ... beginner :-) i'll search if there's an #ubuntu-noobs channel.
[11:48] <ikonia> m_anish: there is nothing wrong with this channel for new users
[11:48] <ikonia> m_anish: you just don't neeed to keep hitting the bot blindly
[11:48] <ikonia> m_anish: send the bot info in a pm
[11:48] <m_anish> ikonia, sounds good
[11:52] <knob> Hey guys, got a n00b question.  I saw in my ~/.bashrc   that I can add my own aliases to a new file   ~/.bash_aliases   ... well, I created the file, dropped in there a short alias     la="ls -alhcF"     logged out, back in, yet it's not "aliased"
[11:52] <knob> Am I missing something basic?
[11:52] <lazers> knob: Check ~/.bashrc again to make sure that line/section isn't commented out.
[11:52] <knob> The .bashrc  has a    if [ -f ~/.bash_aliases ]; then   ....
[11:53] <knob> lazers, thanks!        It's not commented out, just checked.
[11:53] <knob> Odd... the .bashrc is as installed (running 14.04
[11:54] <lazers> knob: alias la="blah blah blah" or la="blah blah" ?
[11:54] <knob> lazers, damn dude... you da man.
[11:54] <knob> :)
[11:54] <knob> going to test it out... forgot the "alias"
[11:55] <lazers> knob: blah :)
[11:55] <knob> w00t! :)
[11:55] <knob> Thanks man...  little by little I learn more.
[11:55] <knob> I love computers... they do EXACTLY what you tell them to do.  99.999% of the time, you messed up in something, not her.
[11:55] <agriyudhizt> assalamu'alaikum...
[11:55] <lost_and_unfound> Greetings, we have an java app running on a headless server without X11. I would like to redirect the X11 to my local ubuntu pc using X11 forwarding. How to i redirect the X and allow my machine to display the server application? thanks
[11:56] <cfhowlett> agriyudhizt, http://www.sabily.org/website/
[11:56] <agriyudhizt> thanksss...
[11:56] <cfhowlett> agriyudhizt, happy2help
[11:57] <agriyudhizt> cfhowlett, where do you comfrom???
[11:58] <cfhowlett> agriyudhizt, kronos
[11:58] <agriyudhizt> woww...
[12:02] <agriyudhizt> ainx, malemmm om masterrr...
[12:13] <tsp> How do I see why apt-get wants to install something?
[12:16] <MatthewsFace> hey guys
[12:16] <MatthewsFace> ever seen the is error when trying to networking still Ubuntu 14.04 on server?
[12:16] <MatthewsFace>        │ Loading apt-mirror-setup failed for unknown reasons. Aborting. │
[12:17] <ikonia> MatthewsFace: trying to network still ubuntu 14.04 ?
[12:17] <ikonia> MatthewsFace: thaat looks like you're trying to setup apt-mirror
[12:17] <MatthewsFace> gmm
[12:17] <MatthewsFace> we'll
[12:17] <MatthewsFace> well*
[12:17] <MatthewsFace> I have been coding for almost 12 hours
[12:18] <ikonia> MatthewsFace: plesasea just explain on 1 line without hitting enter after every few words
[12:18] <MatthewsFace> maybe I "clicked" yes on a step I shouldn't have
[12:18] <MatthewsFace> lol
[12:18] <MatthewsFace> kk
[12:18] <MatthewsFace> Sorry Ikonia, I'll do that from now on
[12:19] <tsp> I'm trying to install mercurial with apt-get install mercurial. It wants to pull in fontconfig, xterm, and a bunch of other stuff
[12:20] <cfhowlett> tsp, run a terminal:  apt-cache show mecurial               read the output
[12:21] <TJ-> tsp: Do you have apt configured to also install the Suggests packages?
[12:21] <tsp> How do I check?
[12:21] <GreenDragon> Hey! I'm unable to set SRWare Iron as my main browser through regular settings.
[12:21] <GreenDragon> So can I get some help?
[12:22] <GreenDragon> I've tried scouring the forums but no luck.
[12:24] <GreenDragon> Can I get some help with setting SRWare Iron As my default  internet Browser.
[12:24] <GreenDragon> *?
[12:24] <trijntje_> GreenDragon: how have you tried to set it?
[12:25] <GreenDragon> trijntje_: Through the Preferred Programs
[12:25] <tsp> TJ-: Thanks, you got me on the right track. apt-get --no-install-recommends turned out to be the answer
[12:25] <GreenDragon> TJ-: It's me Lone Fire! All's well!
[12:26] <trijntje_> GreenDragon: and what goes wrong?
[12:26] <GreenDragon> trijntje_: I also tried a Terminal command which didn't show SRWare as an option. They don't show SRWare as options
[12:27] <trijntje_> GreenDragon: I guess you have to specify the location of SRWare yourself
[12:27] <TJ-> GreenDragon: Good to hear :)
[12:27] <gansteed> Here is a sentence in APUE_2ed:"Instead, the kernel keeps information about the directory, such as a pointer to the directory's v-node."
[12:27] <GreenDragon> trijntje_: How do I do that? I'm running Lubuntu.
[12:28] <gansteed> Does it mean that I can only get the directory name from the kernel?
[12:28] <trijntje_> GreenDragon: that depends on how you installed it, I don't know that browser myself
[12:28] <TJ-> GreenDragon: Why not just "apt-get install chromium-browser" ?
[12:28] <GreenDragon> I ran a wget and dpkg'd it
[12:28] <trijntje_> dpkg -L SRWare shows all files that belong to the package SRWare, the binary should be listed there as well
[12:28] <GreenDragon> TJ-: Chromium mines your data.
[12:29] <GreenDragon> TJ-: SRWare Iron doesn't
[12:29] <TJ-> GreenDragon: chromium-browser is the open-source package, *not* Google's Chrome browser
[12:29] <GreenDragon> TJ-: The tracking feature is in both
[12:30] <TJ-> GreenDragon: what "feature" is that?
[12:30] <jamesM_> On the API is there anyway to retrieve some identifying information about the customers bank account? for example the last 4 digits of their account number use to setup the pre-auth?
[12:31] <GreenDragon> TJ-: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/chromium-discuss/V0x5LyOrL_0
[12:32] <GreenDragon> trijntje_: Nothing came up
[12:32] <trijntje_> GreenDragon: no, you have to use the name of the package you installed
[12:32] <GreenDragon> trijntje_: I did
[12:33] <trijntje_> but its bad practice to install software from outside the repositories, you wont get any security updates
[12:33] <GreenDragon> trijntje_: I found it :D
[12:33] <GreenDragon> trijntje_:  now what do I do?
[12:34] <TJ-> GreenDragon: The discussion you reference, and the bug, were fixed *four* years ago
[12:34] <OnkelTem> Hi all. I've just install Ubuntu 14.04.1 and it turned out that Layout swiching doesn't work as expected. I used to use modal switching i.e. Caps for the first layout and Shift+Caps for the second, but this is not an option in Ubutnu 14.04. Any ideas?
[12:34] <trijntje_> GreenDragon: can you put the list on pastebin.com? Usually the one you want is in /bin
[12:34] <OnkelTem> I wish to migrate to Ubuntu 14.04 but this is inability to swithc layouts is a show-stopper
[12:35] <OnkelTem> This is MOST critical thing and I wonder why releasers are so irresponsive
[12:35] <GreenDragon> trijntje_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8205872/
[12:35] <trijntje> GreenDragon: capitol L
[12:36] <GreenDragon> oh.
[12:36] <OnkelTem> Any workaround/fix for Ubuntu 14.04.1 for layouts?
[12:36] <trijntje> OnkelTem: have you looked at existing bug repports?
[12:36] <GreenDragon> trijntje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8205875/
[12:37] <Nightwolf> hi, pulseaudio sometimes hangs completely. i can't even kill -9 it. autospawn is disabled. any ideas?
[12:37] <trijntje> GreenDragon: I dont think thats the full output
[12:37] <Nightwolf> i'm using an usb soundcard
[12:37] <usr13> Nightwolf: What do you mean it hangs?
[12:38] <usr13> Nightwolf: What are the symptoms?
[12:38] <GreenDragon> trijntje: it is...
[12:38] <Nightwolf> usr13: no sound, pavucontrol can't connect
[12:38] <usr13> Nightwolf: What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[12:39] <Nightwolf> 14.04
[12:39] <OnkelTem> trijntje: didn't find any on this. Looks like I'm the only man on the Earth who needs this. About 6 months ago I tried 14.04 with the same result - they just borke everything
[12:39] <trijntje> GreenDragon: in that case I dont know, I don't see anything that would be the binary
[12:39] <usr13> Nightwolf: Fully updated?
[12:39] <OnkelTem> trijntje: I wonder is there any workaround
[12:39] <Nightwolf> yes
[12:39] <trijntje> OnkelTem: did you report a bug? Otherwise its no surprise it didn't get fixed
[12:39] <GreenDragon> trijntje: ill try it again with sudo
[12:39] <OnkelTem> trijntje: what is the best place to report?
[12:39] <Nightwolf> usr13: i have the problem for 2 years or so, i just sometimes try to solve it again xD
[12:39] <usr13> Nightwolf: Do you really have a need for pulseaudio?  (You might just uninstall it for now, re-install it later on.)
[12:40] <trijntje> !bug
[12:40] <Nightwolf> i don't know, i think i also already tried that xD
[12:40] <usr13> Nightwolf: Are you a skype user?
[12:40] <Nightwolf> yes
[12:40] <usr13> Nightwolf: Ok, well skype needs it.
[12:40] <GreenDragon> trijntje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8205908/
[12:41] <trijntje> GreenDragon: still the same, I guess you'll have to ask the people who create the browser
[12:42] <GreenDragon> trijntje: I can go looking for it, what is a typical binary .ext?
[12:42] <trijntje> linux usually doesnt work with extensions for binaries
[12:43] <usr13> Nightwolf: A problem I've found with pulseaudio is that it seems to reserve or hold sound for a particular app, like a flash video on the broser, or a call on skype or video player like mplayer.  So closing other apps seems to free it up.  Like closing the browser or closing the terminal that I played the video from etc. etc.  Have you tried that?
[12:43] <GreenDragon> trijntje: I think I found it
[12:44] <GreenDragon> trijntje: Yeah I'm pretty sure I have
[12:44] <usr13> Nightwolf: And have you told the pulseaudio team about your problems?
[12:44] <GreenDragon> trijntje: Now how do I get it to default browser status?
[12:44] <usr13> Nightwolf: (They are the ones that will fix it, they are the ones that need to know.)
[12:45] <trijntje> GreenDragon: I'm not sure on lubuntu, isn't there an option to manually add a program?
[12:45] <GreenDragon> trijntje: Not that I know of, is there one in terminal?
[12:45] <cfhowlett> #lubuntu
[12:45] <usr13> Nightwolf: Also, there is #pulseaudio channel.
[12:46] <trijntje> I'm not sure, maybe someone else knows
[12:46] <usr13> Nightwolf: /join #pulseaudio
[12:46] <Nightwolf> usr13: thanks
[12:46] <GreenDragon> trijntje: Isn't there a command that I could use to do that?
[12:46] <usr13> NP
[12:47] <usr13> Nightwolf: There is also a mail-list
[12:47] <fleetfox> Hello. Can anyone point me to ubunt-gnome gnome/mutter repo?
[12:47] <scienceiscoolyes> Hello, if I sha1sum, sha256sum and md5sum the ubuntu iso one after the other. Will it reduce the quality of the ISO
[12:47] <usr13> Nightwolf<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:47] <scienceiscoolyes> i.e, break it
[12:48] <trijntje> scienceiscoolyes: no, you can read files as many times as you like
[12:48] <Aaruni> I am unable to purge the package linux-image-3.8.0-44-generic from my system. I have already installed linux-image-3.13.0-32-generic .
[12:48] <scienceiscoolyes> alright, cheers
[12:49] <usr13> Nightwolf: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/options/pulseaudio-discuss/
[12:50] <usr13> Subscribe option ^^^^^
[12:51] <Aaruni> here is the error pastebin : http://txt.krow.me/ppcsmvdt7
[12:51] <Nightwolf> usr13: ok, great. thanks a lot!
[12:52] <MonkeyDrone> hey guys, I was wondering if there is an easy guide to setting up email services on a dedicated server with Ubuntu 14.04 installation
[12:52] <usr13> Aaruni: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-3.8*
[12:52] <Nightwolf> usr13: i think it may have something to do with usb, because now lsusb doesn't even work any more..
[12:53] <usr13> Nightwolf: Ok, there you go.... you are on the right track,for sure.
[12:53] <usr13> probably ...
[12:53] <Aaruni> usr13: http://txt.krow.me/prra9hetv
[12:54] <usr13> Aaruni: apt-get removepkg linux-image-3.8.0-29-generic
[12:54] <usr13> Aaruni: sudo apt-get removepkg linux-image-3.8.0-29-generic
[12:54] <Aaruni> usr13: 3.8.0-29 ?
[12:54] <Aaruni> but don't I want to remove 3.8.0-44, usr13 ?
[12:54] <usr13> Aaruni: Oh, well, you do not have 3.8.0-29
[12:55] <usr13> Aaruni: My mistake.  But you do not have linux-image-3.8.0-29
[12:55] <usr13> Aaruni: You are trying to remove something you don't have.
[12:56] <Aaruni> usr13: but apt throws me an error "1 not fully installed or removed"
[12:57] <usr13> Aaruni: Show me...
[12:57] <usr13> Aaruni: Show me the full output
[12:57] <Aaruni> wait
[12:57] <Aaruni> usr13: right now, I get E: Invalid operation removepkg
[12:57] <usr13> Aaruni: ls /boot/vmlinuz-3.8*
[12:58] <usr13> Aaruni: removepkg is a slackware command (not used in Ubuntu).
[12:58] <Aaruni> usr13: so, purge ?
[12:58] <Aaruni> usr13: http://txt.krow.me/pg0pw3utr
[12:59] <actarus> hi, sorry I have a problem with ubuntu end a new netgear modem, the connection work, but it fall down every 2 or 3 minutes
[12:59] <actarus> somebody can help me please
[12:59] <usr13> Aaruni: You have only 3.8.0-44 You do not have 3.8.0-29
[13:00] <Aaruni> ok....
[13:00] <cfhowlett> !ask | actarus
[13:00] <Aaruni> so, usr13, what do I do ?
[13:00] <usr13> Aaruni: So, show me the apt-get error.  (The full output)
[13:00] <usr13> Aaruni: sudo apt-get update
[13:00] <havarka> !patience
[13:00] <usr13> Aaruni: Tell me if you get errors....
[13:01] <Aaruni> usr13: no errors in apt-get update
[13:01] <Aaruni> usr13: http://txt.krow.me/puhwd0j9j
[13:01] <usr13> Aaruni: Ok.  So what is the problem?  (Do you really have a problem?)
[13:02] <usr13> Aaruni: (I do not see an error there.)
[13:03] <Aaruni> usr13: the error can be seen here : http://txt.krow.me/pirtusptf
[13:03] <pdw> Can somebody tell me which package displays the "Welcome to Trusty Tahr.. [cancel] [Upgrade]" notifications I'm seeing every now and then in Precise?  I'd like to disable that, but don't know which package/script is handling it.  It's the ones that look like this: http://cdn2.itzgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Ubuntu-14.04-Release-Notes.jpg
[13:05] <geirha> Aaruni, usr13: line 18: usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[13:05] <usr13> Aaruni: dpkg-reconfigure  linux-image-3.8.0-44-generic
[13:05] <usr13> geirha: Oh, let me look again...
[13:05] <philinux> pdw;~ check your settings in software sources
[13:05] <Aaruni> usr13: http://txt.krow.me/pwsqg9yyq
[13:06] <Aaruni> geirha: but everything else works (just also installed linux-generic-lts-trusty)
[13:06] <usr13> Aaruni: uname -a
[13:06] <Aaruni> usr13: Linux aaruni-HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC 3.13.0-32-generic #57~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 15 03:51:20 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:07] <philinux> pdw;~ from system settings > software & updates
[13:07] <usr13> Aaruni: mount   #What does that say?
[13:07] <pdw> philinux: thanks - got that one, but it doesn't quite do what I need.
[13:08] <pdw> philinux: I'm trying to push out a config update to all laptops on our network.
[13:08] <Aaruni> usr13: http://txt.krow.me/piq45mgrq
[13:08] <pdw> philinux: Do you know if that dropdown is tied to some config file in /etc or /var?
[13:08] <usr13> Aaruni: So why not just uninstall the 3.8.0-44 kernel?
[13:09] <Aaruni> usr13: that is the original problem : http://txt.krow.me/pzhq2us5t
[13:09] <pdw> philinux: (I'm not too bothered by the notification myself, but I want to avoid one of my users accidentally triggering an upgrade. :] )
[13:10] <usr13> Aaruni: Did you also send this?:  http://txt.krow.me/prra9hetv
[13:10] <grodius> Hi guys, I am getting a system error because I have a package 'linux-image-3.13.0-35-generic" problem type "kernelOops"... anyone know how to fix?
[13:11] <Aaruni> usr13: yeah
[13:12] <usr13> Aaruni: cat /etc/issue   #Tell me what that says
[13:12] <Aaruni> usr13: Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS \n \l
[13:12] <geirha> Aaruni: have you modified any grub config? does running   update-grub   work?
[13:13] <Aaruni> geirha: root@aaruni-HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:/etc/apt# update-grub
[13:13] <Aaruni> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[13:13] <Aaruni> (didn't use pastebin, only two lines)
[13:13] <actarus> hi, sorry I have a problem with ubuntu end a new netgear modem, the connection work, but it fall down every 2 or 3 minutes
[13:13] <geirha> right, so that's what dpkg (and apt-get in turn) is failing on
[13:15] <Aaruni> geirha: does it matter, if I tell you that I'm doing all that on uck ? making an ubuntu precise iso jam packed with my favourite applications ?
[13:15] <geirha> Aaruni: oh hang on, you ARE missing /dev
[13:16] <Aaruni> geirha: ?
[13:16] <usr13> Aaruni: But is this a running system?
[13:16] <geirha> err no, sorry. line 8 has it.  udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[13:16] <Aaruni> usr13: nope. still configuring stuff via the package manager
[13:16] <Aaruni> I plan to build it by tonight
[13:17] <usr13> Aaruni: dpkg -r linux-image-3.8.0-29-generic
[13:17] <usr13> Aaruni: Tell us what that does?
[13:18] <Aaruni> usr13, geirha : http://txt.krow.me/pebmkzoav
[13:20] <usr13> Aaruni: dpkg -r remove-essential linux-image-3.8.0-29-generic
[13:20] <Aaruni> usr13: same error
[13:22] <usr13> Aaruni: dpkg --configure -a
[13:22] <Aaruni> usr13: dpkg: error: unknown option --configure-a
[13:22] <Aaruni> ohwait
[13:22] <Aaruni> sorry
[13:23] <Aaruni> usr13: no errors
[13:23] <usr13> Aaruni: maybe it is dpkg -a --configure
[13:23] <Aaruni> usr13: no errors
[13:23] <Aaruni> in fact, no output at all
[13:23] <usr13> Aaruni: apt-get clean
[13:23] <Aaruni> usr13: done
[13:24] <usr13> Aaruni: apt-get update
[13:24] <cfhowlett> usr13, would install/reinstall the kernel then allow for removal??
[13:24] <Aaruni> usr13: done with no errors
[13:24] <usr13> Aaruni: apt-get install -f
[13:24] <Aaruni> cfhowlett: it doesn't let me install either
[13:25] <Aaruni> usr13: same as the original error
[13:25] <Aaruni> you know what, nevermind
[13:25] <usr13> Aaruni: What is it?
[13:25] <Aaruni> I'll just build it, see if it still runs. ignore the error
[13:26] <usr13> Aaruni: Well, really, I just don't know.  Not really sure that the problem is...
[13:26] <Aaruni> thanks anyways, guys
[13:26] <usr13> Aaruni: Ok. sorry we couldn't help
[13:26] <usr13> or sorry *I* couldn't help.
[13:27] <Aaruni> usr13: its OK. I think it has something to do with it not being a running OS, just uck.
[13:33] <Junior> hello
[13:33] <netameta> how can list hidden files ?
[13:33] <somsip> netameta: ls -la
[13:33] <Junior> using kunbutu 14.04 and i have this problem: apt get update when reading package list very slow (aprox 15 minutes). any leads ?
[13:34] <netameta> Thanks
[13:34] <netameta> somsip thanks
[13:35] <somsip> netameta: np. It's common to add an 'alias ll="ls -la"' to .bash_aliases for that one
[13:38] <netameta> I see - i dont really use / need to see hidden files too much really but thanks somisp
[13:44] <ftl> hi all.
[13:50] <odt> hi! any known issues with 3.16.1 and hostapd? no luck with wpa=1 or wpa=2 anymore, only wpa=0 setting results in working wifi
[13:52] <ftl> How do enter the root password on the guest session?
[13:52] <ftl> I can not get root account on the logon screen.
[13:52] <blackangelpr> ftl, logon screen? you need to use the terminal type su
[13:52] <blackangelpr> then will ask for super user password
[13:53] <blackangelpr> dont know if possible from guest account
[13:53] <ftl> guest-e8eZ84@Linux:~$ su Parola:  setgid: İşleme izin verilmedi guest-e8eZ84@Linux:~$
[13:53] <blackangelpr> do not make sense to use it from guest account :P you can use tty1
[13:53] <ftl> use turkish ubuntu, entered true pass
[13:53] <ftl> ..
[13:53] <ftl> :)
[13:54] <blackangelpr> :)
[13:59] <ibm> i have installed xubuntu 14.04  less than 1 week ago my wifi does not work can someone help me to fix the wifi connection?
[13:59] <ibm> i am using xubuntu version 14.04?
[14:00] <jsn> Where can I find the md5sum for a particular file, say, in this case, /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc-2.19.so
[14:01] <pdw> jsn: you can calculate MD5 checksums with the md5sum command.  Just give the filename as argument, like  md5sum /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc-2.19.so
[14:02] <jsn> pdw: Yes. I want to know what ubuntu thinks it _should_ be.
[14:02] <pdw> jsn: thought you might ask that next.  Sorry!
[14:03] <jsn> I’d also accept knowing the last day the package, in this case, libc, was updated.
[14:04] <pdw> jsn: so, according to the search engine at package.ubuntu.com, that file appears to be in libc6-dbg in trusty.
[14:04] <ibm> i have installed xubuntu 14.04  less than 1 week ago my wifi does not work can someone help me to fix the wifi connection?
[14:04] <ibm> i am using xubuntu version 14.04?
[14:04] <pdw> jsn: *packages.ubuntu.com, sorry
[14:05] <gansteed> Where is the macro major and minor defined?
[14:05] <miyako> I apologize for my lack of google-fu, but is there an Ubuntu equivelent to Debian Sid?
[14:05] <jsn> pdw: No, it is in package libc6. It’s the main library for an entire operating system, the GNU C library.
[14:05] <Basketball> ActionParsnip,  can you help me
[14:05] <pdw> jsn: Try having a look to see if you have /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6*md5sums on your system.
[14:05] <miyako> specifically, a rolling testing repo that I can track for the latest updates
[14:06] <jsn> pdw: An md5sum on my system could be compromised just as easily as the file itself. I need somewhere _else_ to look at it.
[14:06] <somsip> miyako: no - ubuntu is released at fixed intervals. You can use the beta, or the latest.
[14:06] <pdw> jsn: in which case, I'd download a fresh copy of the package to a trusted host, and compare to the files in that.  Do you know how to unpack a deb archive?
[14:07] <miyako> somsip: can I just update my /etc/apt/sources.list to point to the next release and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[14:07] <somsip> miyako: no idea. You should probably ask in #ubuntu+1
[14:07] <jsn> pdw: For sake of argument, let’s assume I don’t have another host. And, yes, I can use dpkg.
[14:07] <miyako> somsip: okay, I didn't know about that channel, I ask there, thanks :)
[14:07] <Basketball> hey somsip  do you know how to make a repo with launchpad
[14:08] <prainworker> when i connect my cannon camera  ubuntu freezes up on loading  thumbnails °! please help!
[14:08] <somsip> Basketball: no. Just ask your question to the channel and wait to see if anyone replies. Don't ask people unsolicited please.
[14:08] <jsn> miyako: I know dist-upgrade won’t push you to anything like sid. They have a new command, something like do-release-upgrade, and that can only be run, I think, when there is a release upgrade.
[14:08] <prainworker> there are also avi movies on the cam could that be the problem ?
[14:09] <Basketball> so i wrote a script that sets up all my programs and icons right.  So i ran into a problem where the script is saving the zip file from the wget of the file to a .html file. how can i make my own repo and add the zips to it so i can do it from the repo not wget
[14:10] <jsn> Basketball: A .deb file repo?
[14:10] <Basketball> jsn,  no i want to upload the zips to it
[14:10] <miyako> jsn: hmm, it sounds like I might just want to install debian on my laptop at this point rather than trying to turn Ubuntu into debian
[14:10] <jsn> Where can I find what Ubuntu thinks the md5sum for a particular file, say, in this case, /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc-2.19.so
[14:11] <ikonia> jsn: just run md5sum against it
[14:11] <pdw> jsn: I'm not myself aware of somewhere that lists MD5 checksums by package.  However, downloading the deb to my machine here, comparing the deb's SHA256 sum against the one on the https: download page, and extracting the files gives me this:
[14:11] <ikonia> jsn: the fact that it's installed means it's passed the internal checksums that it installs
[14:11] <jsn> ikonia: That shows what the md5sum is on _my_ system. I want to know what the official repository says it should be.
[14:11] <jsn> ikonia: It coud be changed after it was installed.
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: what is the issue?
[14:11] <pdw> jsn: $ md5sum libc-2.19.so
[14:11] <ikonia> jsn: I'm not sure that's held on a file by file basis
[14:11] <pdw> jsn: 7b6bbcea6627deace906d80edaefc631  libc-2.19.so
[14:11] <Basketball> ActionParsnip,
[14:11] <Basketball> ActionParsnip,
[14:11] <Basketball> so i wrote a script that sets up all my programs and icons right.  So i ran into a problem where the script is saving the zip file from the wget of the file to a .html file. how can i make my own repo and add the zips to it so i can do it from the repo not wget
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: wget -O filename.zip http://www.whatever.com/filename
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: you can use the -O option to set the resulting filename
[14:12] <jsn> pdw: Well, we have the same one. That’s something. But I can’t always rely on you being there for me.
[14:12] <Basketball> ActionParsnip, can you come here please http://collabedit.com/m9yng
[14:13] <ikonia> jsn: could always extract the deb
[14:13] <pdw> jsn: you might want to have a look at debsums too.
[14:13] <jsn> ikonia: I wanted to know if there was an official source I could check. In the limits of the imagination, a downloaded .deb could corrupt the one file right away.
[14:14] <jsn> pdw: I have that installed. debsums could be corrupted just as easily as the original file.
[14:14] <ikonia> jsn: no it couldn't as when it installs it checksums itself
[14:14] <jsn> ikonia: And nothing on Earth could ever happen after that?
[14:14] <ikonia> jsn: the package integrity is checked against the cache
[14:14] <ikonia> jsn: no, it couldn't
[14:14] <TJ-> jsn: If there is doubt over a system file, you *never* try to verify the checksum on the possibly compromised installed system. Use a live ISO boot and generate the checksum of the suspect file to compare against the checksum of the same file from the same package version
[14:14] <pdw> jsn: I guess the question is, what's your threat model?
[14:14] <jsn> ikonia: My machine couldn’t be hacked? How odd. I thought it, hypothetically, could, and, once hacked, any binaries could be changed, including debsums.
[14:15] <ikonia> jsn: if it's hacked how can you trust md5sum
[14:15] <jsn> TJ-: Thanks, good advice.
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> jsn: md5sum may be compromised also....
[14:15] <jsn> ikonia: good point
[14:15] <jsn> Looks like I am OK, or pdw is in on it and giving me a bad checksum. ;)
[14:15] <pdw> jsn: heh, no comment. :)
[14:16] <Basketball> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/5K5311TD
[14:16] <TJ-> jsn: Check the build logs for the package to confirm the expected package hashes: e.g. very end of: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/183374320/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-amd64.eglibc_2.19-0ubuntu6.3_UPLOADING.txt.gz
[14:16] <ikonia> TJ-: that's useful
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: if you set the top line to:   #!/bin/bash    and mark the file as executable, it will be a script. The file extension does nothing at all
[14:17] <TJ-> jsn:  Those are the same hashes copied into the archive pocket "Release" files, that are in turn signed and a detached signature placed in "Release.gpg"
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: Elementary is also not supported here
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: this is Ubuntu support.  Does anyone else have a date around August 28th for their /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc-2.19.so ?
[14:19] <ikonia> jsn: do you suspect your machine has been compromised ?
[14:20] <jsn> ikonia: Or maybe that library got corrupted. I can no longer build a package which I update with each update to libc6. Seems to be the only difference. I do have one other option, but, like I said, I built this all the time without that other option.
[14:21] <ikonia> jsn: do you mean point release update to libc6 or actual version changes
[14:21] <ikonia> jsn: this does not sound like a corruption, more a change in the packages behaviour
[14:22] <TJ-> jsn: Did you not read the build log? "-rwxr-xr-x root/root   1845024 2014-08-28 06:02 ./lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc-2.19.so"
[14:22] <jsn> ikonia: Could be, just wondering.
[14:22] <jsn> TJ-: I was looking for the changelog, honestly.
[14:22] <jsn> TJ-: So, no, I did not.
[14:22] <ikonia> jsn: I think you're taking a random stab at solving a build problem
[14:22] <ikonia> jsn: have you actually analyised the error of the build ?
[14:22] <TJ-> jsn: did you update the headers with libc6-dev ??
[14:23] <jsn> ikonia: I was taking a random stab, because the other fix will take a couple hours. This wasn’t the likely situation, but I simply wanted to rule it out.
[14:23] <jsn> TJ-: libc6-dev is up to date.
[14:23] <ikonia> jsn: analyising corruption/compromised system would take hours,
[14:24] <pdw> Can anyone confirm that setting 'Prompt=never' in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades is sufficient to prevent the "Welcome to Trusty Tahr  [cancel] [Upgrade]" notification popups from appearing?
[14:24] <pdw> I mean the one that looks like http://cdn2.itzgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Ubuntu-14.04-Release-Notes.jpg.  I need to push a config update out via Puppet to avoid my users accidentally upgrading their systems.
[14:24] <jsn> ikonia: Actually, I think, between pdw and TJ-, we’ve ruled out compromised in about 10-15 minutes.
[14:24] <TJ-> jsn: So, ask us about the build error rather than one of many possibilities and we might know the cause :)
[14:24] <ikonia> I don't believe so
[14:24] <ThreadKiLL> Hi TJ- just wanna ask if you help a bit, I dnt really understand why i cannot do command " cat " anymore, it says i need to do apt-get install coreutils , when i do apt-get install coreutils , doesnt work neither.
[14:25] <TJ-> ThreadKiLL: Sounds like you killed the system
[14:25] <ThreadKiLL> and when i do netstat it says cannot run binary
[14:25] <jsn> I am, as of a couple days ago, having problems building mod_perl from source. make is fine, but make test yields a few errors.
[14:25] <jsn> I think I am just going to add the apr-iconv package.
[14:25] <TJ-> jsn: build log?
[14:25] <ikonia> jsn: have you cheked if those tests are applicable to your system
[14:25] <ikonia> jsn: not all tests are for all platforms/builds
[14:26] <ThreadKiLL> TJ- , really? bt when i do whereis cat , output is very clear, it's already installed.
[14:26] <jsn> ikonia: FYI, I used to work in the build group for some of the largest software in the world. We filed bugs against ld because it couldn’t handle 4G binaries very well.
[14:26] <ThreadKiLL> is there any alternative way or maybe isntall cat command manually?
[14:26] <jsn> Let me just do the apr-iconv solution for now. It’s probably not a bad idea, anyway.
[14:27] <ikonia> jsn: not sure how that has anything to do with anything
[14:27] <TJ-> ThreadKiLL: To get such errors you've seriously messed up the system in some way
[14:27] <jsn> Thanks, folks!
[14:28] <jsn> ikonia: You asked if I knew that all tests weren’t for all platforms. I mean, it even _says_ “skipped: not VMS” on a lot of tests like that, and I’ve spent years in a build group.
[14:28] <jsn> Ciao!
[14:28] <ikonia> jsn: and yet your randomly guessing your machine is hacked
[14:28] <star_> hi
[14:28] <ThreadKiLL> TJ- , maybe one of my dedicated server users trolling around and messed up things , do i need to resetup ubuntu etc.? or if you have better advice please do tell.
[14:29] <star_> china
[14:29] <somsip> !zh | star_
[14:30] <TJ-> ThreadKiLL: It sounds like some core system libraries have been compromised, unless you've simply mangled the evironment PATH
[14:31] <ThreadKiLL> TJ- core system indeed, is there any way to restore it from the default system?
[14:33] <TJ-> ThreadKiLL: Reinstall the packages
[14:33] <ThreadKiLL> TJ-, PS: this is dedicted server btw.
[14:33] <TJ-> ThreadKiLL: And don't give users access to privileged functionality
[14:34] <ThreadKiLL> the only problem i have is the compilation " cat " command.
[14:35] <ikonia> sounds like you have a lot more problems than that
[14:36] <ThreadKiLL> thanks ikania , bt apt-get update doesnt work anymore too.
[14:36] <TJ-> ThreadKiLL: >>> It sounds like some core system libraries have been compromised <<<, unless you've simply mangled the evironment PATH
[14:37] <Aeo> hey guys i'm having a bit of troube with X
[14:37] <Aeo> anyone here that can help?
[14:39] <ThreadKiLL> TJ- what are the basic solution if the error is cannot run binary file.
[14:39] <ikonia> ThreadKiLL: it sounds like you are missing a key libraries
[14:39] <ikonia> I'd guess libc
[14:39] <ikonia> or something as important
[14:39] <ikonia> which means your machine is in a huge mess
[14:40] <ikonia> I suspect if you reboot now it would not come back up
[14:40] <ThreadKiLL> yes i already rebooted my vps , Omg
[14:40] <Aeo> hey guys, i think i'm havi9ng problems with X. every once in a while my screen just freezes and blacks out and i have to REISUB  to rescue it
[14:40] <ThreadKiLL> I thnk i should re-install the wholething
[14:40] <Aeo> i'm on the latest nvidia stable drivers 340
[14:40] <Aeo> and it's not hardware
[14:41] <Aeo> any ideas?
[14:42] <pdw> Aeo: no obvious suggestions (and I'm not an expert) but it might be worth checking that you're using a release that's more recent than your hardware.
[14:43] <Aeo> pdw: the gfx card is a 780ti, athe only old bits are the mobo and CPU
[14:43] <TJ-> Aeo: Any useful info in the system logs?
[14:44] <Aeo> TJ-: i'm not sure where to look. .xsession-erros?
[14:44] <TJ-> Aeo: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" and "/var/log/kern.log"
[14:45] <pdw> Aeo: you could check /var/log/syslog, /var/log/Xorg.*.log, and dmesg output.
[14:45] <Aeo> want a pastebin?
[14:45] <Aeo> they're fairly random, and based on how i have to restart they might not have gotten logged
[14:46] <pdw> Aeo: no harm in trying a pastebin.  Yes, random crashes could lock up the system before it has chance to log anything.
[14:46] <Aeo> if i fire up a game, it's a coin toss wheter they happen or not
[14:46] <Aeo> and even idling at the desktop
[14:46] <Aeo> it's weird
[14:47] <Aeo> pdw: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/JhEFQmap
[14:48] <Aeo> pdw my .xsession-errors http://pastebin.com/dJNgpwQN
[14:48] <TJ-> Aeo: This "[mi] Increasing EQ size to 512 to prevent dropped events." is an indication of internal X server problems
[14:48] <Aeo> any other log you an think of?
[14:48] <Aeo> TJ-: what can ti do to fix it?
[14:48] <kesavan> best recovery tool on ubuntu ?
[14:48] <Aeo> *i
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> kesavan: there is no best anything in any OS
[14:48] <kesavan> @ActionParsnip: Yes!
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> kesavan: if there was, nobpdy would use the others as one is outright better
[14:49] <kesavan> I've to research and find the best for my requiremnet
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> kesavan: this is not the case, and all options exists
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> kesavan: recovery of what?
[14:49] <TJ-> Aeo: Also, in .xsessoin_errors you have "(cinnamon:2398): Cogl-WARNING **: Failed to compile GLSL program:"
[14:49] <kesavan> Problem is  my files are not shown in the USB pen drive
[14:49] <kesavan> but the data is there
[14:50] <kesavan> GParted and others report 11GB data is there
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> kesavan: you could use foremost, you will lose filename and folder location but you may get the data
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> kesavan: what file system is the usb using>
[14:50] <soarc> Hi
[14:51] <kesavan> Gparted report it as FAT32
[14:51] <pdw> Aeo: The only thing I see that's at all out of the ordinary is that entry at 23.239, where some detail is filled in with ???.
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> kesavan: have you ran an fsck on it?
[14:51] <Aeo> TJ-: so what's the root cause and how cani fix it?
[14:51] <kesavan> I did it
[14:51] <pdw> Aeo: That looks to me (though I'm no expert here) like something might not be entirely supported.
[14:52] <pdw> Aeo: I realise that's not too useful though.
[14:52] <kesavan> ext2fs_open2: Bad magic number in super-block
[14:52] <Aeo> pdw: it's all good :)
[14:52] <TJ-> Aeo: I'd suspect Cinnamon; as far as I'm aware that isn't part of Ubuntu, either
[14:53] <Aeo> TJ-: well, TBH it's linux mint. that channel ran out of ideas though :/
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> kesavan: you said it's its fat32
[14:53] <kesavan> yes
[14:53] <TJ-> Aeo: Well, there you go "not supported here"
[14:53] <pdw> Aeo: I don't know if there's any mileage in turning off the stereo support (since I can imagine that being less well-tested).
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> kesavan: you may find that foremost will help, you will need as much space as the USB's capacity. You will use filename and location data but files may be revovered
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> kesavan: why is the data not backed up?
[14:54] <Aeo> pdw: screen dosen't support, and i'm not sure how to anyways
[14:54] <Aeo> TJ-: well, thanks :P
[14:54] <pdw> Aeo: np.  Have you tried falling back to a simpler desktop (mate rather than cinnamon)?
[14:54] <kesavan> yes... no backup tken from USB pendrive
[14:55] <Aeo> pdw: i tried awesome, but no i cant get used to a twm. ani reccommendations?
[14:56] <pdw> Aeo: just try something without 3D acceleration on the desktop as a start.
[14:56] <Aeo> pdw: fair enough, thanks
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> kesavan: then why are you trying to get the data back, it is worthless
[14:56] <pdw> Aeo: on Ubuntu 12.04, I'd suggest falling back to the 2D desktop (without visual effects).
[14:56] <pdw> Aeo: Not sure how that translates to a current Mint install. ;)
[14:56] <Aeo> pdw: i think 17 is based off 14.043
[14:57] <Aeo> *14.04
[14:57] <pdw> Aeo: try installing the lubuntu-desktop package in that case.
[14:57] <Aeo> pdw: thanks
[14:57] <pdw> Aeo: another approach is to launch a separate X server just to handle the game, but that's a bit involved... :)
[14:58] <pdw> Aeo: np
[14:58] <Aeo> pdw: it's not game specific. i can be idling on the desktop and it can happen
[14:58] <weiyang> hi, all, I am willing to change a net_dev's name on the fly, is this possible?
[14:58] <weiyang> I know, it is possible to change a net_dev name by add a rule in udev
[14:58] <kesavan> [Logs] http://paste.ubuntu.com/8206950/
[14:59] <pdw> Aeo: good point.  Yes, see how the lubuntu or xubuntu desktops suit you, see of that helps any.
[14:59] <weiyang> while this would take effect after reboot?
[14:59] <Aeo> sounds good
[14:59] <Aeo> thanks TJ- and pdw
[14:59] <pdw> Aeo: welcome :)
[15:00] <yaowenrui> install lubuntu is very hard
[15:02] <Aeo> yaowenrui: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop :P
[15:03] <yaowenrui_> just desktop or hole system?
[15:03] <__zug__> I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on a older machine (upgrading to 12.x slows this machine down). Anyway I can get Chrome to update so that I can install some extensions/apps I want? I keep getting "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: gconf-service" trying to install the google-chrome-stable_current_i386.deb package.
[15:03] <SuperLag> My ThinkPad has a camera built-in. What app(s) could I use to record video with?
[15:03] <cfhowlett> __zug__, desktop???
[15:03] <__zug__> yes
[15:03] <cfhowlett> SuperLag, cheese
[15:03] <tomodachi> SuperLag: cheese
[15:03] <cfhowlett> __zug__, end of life = no longer supporte
[15:04] <__zug__> ugh, ok
[15:04] <ikonia> isn't it still in support on the server
[15:04] <ikonia> 5 years ?
[15:05] <cfhowlett> ikonia, it is.  he's on desktop
[15:05] <MannerMan> __zug__: Try Xubuntu or Lubuntu
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> yes
[15:05] <ikonia> ahh the desktop packages have not been updated
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> ah
[15:05] <ikonia> hence why it's not met
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> __zug__: Ubuntu 12.04 using Unity2D will run ok, or try Lubuntu or Xubuntu 14.04 :)
[15:06] <cfhowlett> __zug__, lubuntu is optimized for older machines.  xubuntu is also legacy friendly
[15:06] <TeraJL>  hi there, i've bought a caddy to put an HDD (the one i used before) and installed a new SSD, but my CPU first core is allways at 100, i've tracked it down to "/sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe12" and i've noticed that if i remove the HDD and leave the SSD it don't get that problem, what could it be? my HDD i've re-formated to ext4, but i still get the same...the main problem is overheating (and probably some performance issues)
[15:06] <__zug__> MannerMan: I've played with Xubuntu so might try that. I'll look at Lubuntu as well. Thanks guys.
[15:08] <MannerMan> __zug__: You're welcome, in theory you could do something like upgrading to 12.04, install xubuntu-desktop, and uninstall ubuntu-desktop, but I would recommend fresh install.
[15:10] <agriyudhizt> G-night....
[15:13] <TJ-> TeraJL: You might improve the situation by installing the package "irqbalance"
[15:13] <beid7712> http://vividsx.com/double-timing-wifeava-addams-bill-baileykeiran-lee-lizzie-tucker-fucked-while-playing-console-gamesamantha-saint-madison-ivy-two-hottie-bff-threesomedillion-harper-penetrating-the-pus/
[15:15] <Nightwolf> seems legit
[15:15] <cfhowlett> !ops | beid7712 porn
[15:18] <TeraJL> TJ-: that will just make the high amount of CPU usage to be shared to all other cores? the problem is, it is using 100% of one core, with an huge number of interrupts even if it's not mounted
[15:21] <bananapie> #winehq
[15:21] <TJ-> TeraJL: Check out the caddy, but surely if there a lots of IRQs that might suggests the file-systems on the device are being fscked?
[15:23] <TeraJL> TJ-: sorry, but by fscked you mean that the OS is checking the device? because i've been like this for almost a month and never stopped... only if i turn off that interrupt but that does not seem ?healthy?
[15:25] <TJ-> TeraJL: That does sound ... *wrong*
[15:25] <TJ-> TeraJL: What's the caddy, what interface and how is it connected to the PC, what interfaces does it use internally to the drive?
[15:29] <TeraJL> TJ-: the caddy is a serial ATA ( http://www.dx.com/p/designer-s-2-5-sata-to-sata-hdd-ssd-caddy-for-12-7mm-optical-drive-122075 ) and its on a laptop to use the HDD instead of the CD drive
[15:31] <TJ-> TeraJL: Does it have any active electronics on-board? If not, then it would look to be an issue with the SSD and controller it is connected to
[15:36] <TeraJL> TJ-: ? the SSD seems to be working fine (atleast without the HDD), the HDD is on the caddy, and the SSD is inside the pc.... the caddy does not seem to have any active electronics
[15:39] <TJ-> TeraJL: Ahh, sorry, I did mean to type "HDD" not "SSD". Have you done a SMART check on the drive? Have you looked at "kern.log" for clues?
[15:44] <rustyraptor> what does "enable base mosaic" mean in the nvidia X-Server settings?
[15:45] <eeee> rustyraptor: it's a religious thing
[15:45] <eeee> j/k
[15:45] <rustyraptor> lol
[15:45] <caelinux> hola a todos
[15:45] <eeee> !es | caelinux
[15:46] <caelinux> ahh ok thx
[15:46] <eeee> np
[15:46] <caelinux> I also can speak english
[15:46] <caelinux> this is my first time here
[15:46] <eeee> it's up to you
[15:46] <caelinux> i dont know how this program works
[15:46] <cxm> i need help configuring postfix
[15:46] <caelinux> what is this
[15:46] <eeee> this is an IRC channel
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> caelinux: do you have a support question
[15:47] <caelinux> no im trying this distro of caelinux and i just saw this software
[15:47] <cfhowlett> caelinux, you should go to caelinux for support - we only do ubuntu official flavors here.
[15:47] <TeraJL> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/6CJsTdGt there are some warnings but i don't know what to search for
[15:48] <TeraJL> TJ-: what's the best way to do a smart check?
[15:57] <SimonJai> hey guys, need help quite urgently
[15:57] <SimonJai> trying to upgrade 12.04 to 14.04, but when I run 'do-release'upgrade' i get "No view can be imported, aborting" error
[15:58] <SimonJai> please help
[15:58] <k1l_> SimonJai: "do-release-upgrade" is the commans
[15:58] <k1l_> *command
[15:59] <SimonJai> sorry typo, yes I typed 'do-release-upgrade'
[15:59] <k1l_> SimonJai: please make sure you run a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" first to make sure you are up to date
[15:59] <SimonJai> k1l_: I did and they are
[16:00] <AVDA> SimonJai: are you running ubuntu server>
[16:00] <SimonJai> yes
[16:00] <SimonJai> well as far as I can tell
[16:00] <SimonJai> there's no GUI
[16:00] <AVDA> SimonJai: Have you tried force-updating?
[16:00] <k1l_> SimonJai: what does "lsb_release -d" give you?
[16:01] <SimonJai> Description: Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[16:01] <SimonJai> how do i force updating?
[16:02] <AVDA> SimonJai: add in -d switch
[16:02] <SimonJai> same thing
[16:02] <SimonJai> ><
[16:02] <netlar> So The Bug Squad is now merging into the Ubuntu Quality Team?
[16:03] <SimonJai> https://www.dropbox.com/s/b2ukxg8hpoyypzg/ubuntu_err.JPG
[16:04] <k1l_> SimonJai: is this a regular setup? or some hoster stuff?
[16:04] <k1l_> what is inside sources.list?
[16:04] <cxmm_> anyone familiar with postfix?myhostname directive is not working
[16:04] <stevenpage129> I am having an issue with iscsitarget; my NAS has stopped working after the upgrade to the latest hardware enablement stack. reinstalling iscsitarget-dkms fails to compile the driver, and it results in an error like such: http://askubuntu.com/questions/511990/iscsitarget-suddenly-broken-after-upgrade-of-the-12-04-hardware-stack
[16:05] <AVDA> k1l_: repositories
[16:05] <stevenpage129> can anybody lend some advice? thank you
[16:05] <eeee> AVDA: ?
[16:05] <k1l_> AVDA: i know. i wanted  to know what is inside his sources.list (if standard repos or hoster stuff etc)
[16:06] <AVDA> eeee: ?
[16:06] <egoflux> t0ad-mini: yo
[16:07] <AVDA> SimonJai: did you update manager -core?
[16:07] <SimonJai> yes i did
[16:07] <k1l_> SimonJai: maybe you got a locales issue, try to set your locales with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales"
[16:07] <SimonJai> i'll try that, thanks k1l_
[16:08] <SimonJai> k1l_: no good :(
[16:08] <OrganTrouble> hello
[16:08] <AVDA> *ubuntu 10.10**kernel 2.6* *refuses to upgrade*
[16:08] <SimonJai> k1l_: en_GB.ISO-8859-1... up-to-date
[16:09] <Basketball> if i make a new user does it have all the default stuff or does it have the repos and programs from current user
[16:09] <AVDA> SimonJai: Run as normal user?
[16:10] <k1l_> iso locales? usually you have utf-8 locales on ubuntu machines
[16:10] <eeee> Basketball: apps are shared
[16:10] <k1l_> Basketball: repos are systemwide (since they need sudo rights to be set, right?)
[16:11] <AVDA> basketball: sys wide.
[16:11] <k1l_> SimonJai: what gives "locales -a"?
[16:11] <k1l_> SimonJai: "locale -a"
[16:11] <Basketball> AVDA,  is there a way yo do a reset so EVERY THING is default again
[16:11] <SimonJai> k1l_: C, POSIX, en_GB, en_GB.iso88591
[16:12] <cfhowlett_> !10.10 | AVDA
[16:12] <SimonJai> no wonder mysql is freaking out about utf8 aswell
[16:14] <TeraJL> i'm having a CPU problem, the first core is allways at 100% can someone check if my kern.log if there is any problem http://pastebin.com/6CJsTdGt ?
[16:15] <k1l_> SimonJai: "apt-get install language-pack-en" then "locale-gen" and then again "dpkg-reconfigure locales" and choose a supported locale
[16:15] <eeee> TeraJL: type top and see what's using the cpu
[16:16] <TeraJL> eeee: it's an interrupt related to my HDD caddy
[16:18] <eeee> Basketball: you can backup your /home and fresh install
[16:18] <SimonJai> k1l_: how do I choose a local?
[16:18] <cb> Hi there, i have an Trusty installation and i was just intalling mjpegtools. But it seems yuvscaler is missing. At least the Manpage is shipped with the package :).
[16:18] <Basketball> eeee,  but i dont have a ethernet cable and i have a broadcom card so i have to run a few commands to get wifi working which i cant do without ethernet
[16:19] <k1l_> SimonJai: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale
[16:19] <eeee> why can't you run the commands without the ethernet?
[16:20] <eeee> Basketball: you mean you need to install software to get it working?
[16:20] <Basketball> eeee,  you need internet to run these
[16:20] <Basketball> 1. sudo apt-get update
[16:20] <Basketball> 2. sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[16:20] <Basketball> 3. sudo apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source
[16:20] <Basketball> 4. sudo reboot
[16:22] <SimonJai> k1l_: no good, same error ><
[16:22] <k1l_> SimonJai: what locales did you use now?
[16:22] <cxmm_> postfix anyone?
[16:22] <SimonJai> en_AU.UTF8
[16:23] <SimonJai> en_AU.UTF-8 ****
[16:23] <SimonJai> en_GB.UTF-8 ****
[16:23] <TJ-> TeraJL: Nothing in the kernel log gives a clue. What do you see with "cat /proc/interrupts" ?
[16:24] <k1l_> SimonJai: what error do you get now?
[16:24] <SimonJai> the same
[16:24] <SimonJai> https://www.dropbox.com/s/b2ukxg8hpoyypzg/ubuntu_err.JPG
[16:24] <k1l_> real same error? should be another error in some places now
[16:25] <eeee> Basketball: i think you can install offline using the live usb
[16:25] <eeee> Basketball: http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=5842.0
[16:25] <AVDA> k1l_: what's the error rn?
[16:25] <SimonJai> i'll check syslog
[16:25] <eeee> Basketball: look into it more if you want to try it out
[16:25] <Guest6155> Hi, guys, how do i upgrade synaptic package?
[16:26] <k1l_> SimonJai: please "pastebin" the output. and pastebin the sources.list
[16:26] <OderZug> Hello
[16:26] <eeee> Guest6155: sudo apt-get upgrade , upgrades all packages
[16:26] <k1l_> Guest6155: can you rephrase?
[16:26] <Guest6155> thanks
[16:26] <AVDA> shouldn't you do dist-upgrade? since major changes cannot be made via upgrade?
[16:27] <k1l_> dist-upgrade is needed for new package installs, like the new kernel packages when updating the kernel
[16:27] <OderZug> Hello i an trying to install bundler,    An error occurred while installing rugged (0.21.0), and Bundler cannot continue.
[16:28] <TJ-> SimonJai: On 12.04: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install update-manager-core"
[16:29] <SimonJai> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/hRfr1bTe
[16:29] <SimonJai> TJ-: that didn't work :(
[16:30] <eeee> SimonJai: try sudo do-release upgrade -p
[16:30] <SimonJai> nope, same
[16:30] <TJ-> SimonJai: Do you have a non-standard Python installation, or PATH? Those modules are Python, so any Python changes could impact it
[16:30] <eeee> SimonJai: try sudo do-release-upgrade -m server
[16:30] <k1l_> SimonJai: did you make a unclean upgrade to 12.04 with editing the sources.list?
[16:31] <SimonJai> k1l_: i didn't edit the sources.list
[16:31] <SimonJai> i inherited this server, it's running some turnkeylinux crap on it?
[16:31] <SimonJai> but base is ubuntu
[16:32] <k1l_> hmm. seems like they broke the python then.
[16:32] <TJ-> SimonJai: That's probably the issue then; If it isn't standard Ubuntu then tools can't be expected to work in the expected manner
[16:32] <SimonJai> how do i fix it?
[16:32] <SimonJai> sigh......
[16:32] <saiarcot895> SimonJai: what does lsb_release -c say?
[16:33] <SimonJai> Codename: precise
[16:33] <SimonJai> I upgraded from 10.04.1 LTS
[16:33] <saiarcot895> SimonJai: using do-release-upgrade?
[16:33] <SimonJai> yep
[16:34] <saiarcot895> SimonJai: interesting. I would edit sources.list and remove any lucid lines, and then run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-minimal"
[16:34] <OderZug> Hi
[16:35] <saiarcot895> Correction: remove the lucid lines, run "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and then run the install command
[16:35] <OderZug> Results logged to /home/git/gitlab/vendor/bundle/ruby/2.0.0/gems/rugged-0.21.0/ext/rugged/gem_make.out
[16:35] <OderZug> An error occurred while installing rugged (0.21.0), and Bundler cannot continue.
[16:35] <OderZug> Make sure that `gem install rugged -v '0.21.0'` succeeds before bundling.
[16:35] <SimonJai> saiarcot895: what will that do?
[16:35] <TJ-> saiarcot895: There are no "lucid" entries enabled
[16:35] <OderZug> what the hell to do now?
[16:35] <saiarcot895> Oh, they're comments. Didn't see that
[16:35] <SimonJai> yeah... ><
[16:36] <AVDA> SimonJai: Google yo
[16:36] <SimonJai> google doesn't return anything ><
[16:36] <saiarcot895> The ubuntu-minimal part makes sure you have the very-basic ubuntu system
[16:36] <TJ-> SimonJai: What does this report? "dpkg -S DistUpgradeView"
[16:36] <AVDA> SimonJai: when searching for exact phrases, use ""
[16:36] <MonkeyDrone> heya folks, any suggestions how i can setup a mail server on ubuntu 14.04 server edition
[16:36] <Basketball> eeee,  i only have one pc
[16:37] <k1l_> i bet the turnkeylinux stuff brakes the python setup.
[16:37] <AVDA> SimonJai: "[error]"
[16:37] <Basketball> eeee,  the reason why i want to do this is because when i when i run apt-get update i get these errors http://pastebin.com/ikaJusbU
[16:37] <eeee> Basketball: the file is found on the ubuntu iso in /pool/main/b/ i confirmed on 14.04 iso that i have
[16:37] <SimonJai> TJ-:  try sudo do-release-upgrade -m server
[16:37] <saiarcot895> MonkeyDrone: "sudo apt-get install mail-server" (or something close to that)
[16:37] <SimonJai> ooooooops
[16:38] <SimonJai> TJ-:  pastebin.com/qGw1knWt
[16:38] <saiarcot895> MonkeyDrone: "sudo apt-get install mail-server^"
[16:38] <MonkeyDrone> sairacot895 , thank you
[16:38] <TJ-> SimonJai: Is this a server installation? No X server?
[16:38] <SimonJai> not sure, it's an old server I inherited
[16:39] <SimonJai> ohhhh wait....
[16:39] <SimonJai> does Ubuntu 14.04 support 32bit?
[16:39] <TJ-> SimonJai: Yes
[16:39] <SimonJai> that's not it then
[16:39] <guardianpwr08> how do i list all processes that are starting up when 12.04 starts?  i have a process that im trying to "STOP" from running
[16:39] <TJ-> SimonJai: If there's no X server we can rule out the GUI frontends and concentrate on the Text frontend
[16:39] <saiarcot895> SimonJai: uname -a for the running kernel, which will tell you the architecture you're on
[16:39] <SimonJai> saiarcot895: Linux wordpress 3.2.0-68-virtual #102-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 12 22:44:35 UTC 2014 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[16:40] <SimonJai> mmmmm that doesn't look like a standard ubuntu release =/
[16:40] <eeee> Basketball: change the mirror in software-properties-gtk
[16:40] <OderZug> in name of state of jesus christus, JS not the IS, i ask for help
[16:40] <SimonJai> TJ-: I'm deifnitely trying to concentrate ont he Text frontend, there's no GUI
[16:40] <AVDA> guardianpwr08: ps -aux
[16:41] <saiarcot895> SimonJai: looks standard to me. The server's hostname is "wordpress".
[16:41] <SimonJai> sweeet
[16:41] <Basketball> eeee,  steo by step please
[16:41] <SimonJai> then upgrade is broken =/
[16:41] <SimonJai> for some reason
[16:41] <guardianpwr08> AVDA: how do i remove a process from running during startup?  i see the one i want to stop on the list
[16:41] <AVDA> SimonJai: There's been bug reports.
[16:41] <TJ-> SimonJai: "python -c 'import sys; print sys.path'  "
[16:42] <eeee> Basketball: type software-properties-gtk in the terminal, then where it says Download from, select the Main server, then click close and select reload
[16:42] <SimonJai> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/ePS8MynJ
[16:42] <AVDA> guardianpwr08: what is the process?
[16:42] <guardianpwr08> ./ts3server_linux_x86
[16:43] <Basketball> W:Failed to fetch mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt/dists/precise-updates/main/source/Sources  403  Forbidden [Mirror: http://mirror.tcpdiag.net/ubuntu/]
[16:43] <Basketball> , W:Failed to fetch mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt/dists/precise-updates/restricted/source/Sources  403  Forbidden [Mirror: http://mirror.tcpdiag.net/ubuntu/]
[16:43] <Basketball> , W:Failed to fetch mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt/dists/precise-updates/universe/source/Sources  403  Forbidden [Mirror: http://mirror.tcpdiag.net/ubuntu/]
[16:43] <Basketball> , W:Failed to fetch mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt/dists/precise-updates/multiverse/source/Sources  403  Forbidden [Mirror: http://mirror.tcpdiag.net/ubuntu/]
[16:43] <Basketball> , W:Failed to fetch mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt/dists/precise-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages  403  Forbidden [Mirror: http://mirror.tcpdiag.net/ubuntu/]
[16:43] <Basketball> , W:Failed to fetch mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt/dists/precise-updates/restricted/binary-i386/Packages  403  Forbidden [Mirror: http://mirror.tcpdiag.net/ubuntu/]
[16:43] <unopaste> Basketball you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:44] <saiarcot895> SimonJai and TJ-: The error on the do-release-upgrade side seems to be "unsupported locale setting". Perhaps a run of locale-gen will help?
[16:44] <Basketball> , W:Failed to fetch mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt/dists/precise-proposed/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  403  Forbidden [Mirror: http://mirror.tcpdiag.net/ubuntu/]
[16:44] <Basketball> , W:Failed to fetch mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt/dists/precise-backports/main/source/Sources  403  Forbidden [Mirror: http://mirror.tcpdiag.net/ubuntu/]
[16:44] <Basketball> , W:Failed to fetch mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt/dists/precise-backports/restricted/source/Sources  403  Forbidden [Mirror: http://mirror.tcpdiag.net/ubuntu/]
[16:44] <SimonJai> saiarcot895: just tried, no good
[16:44] <Basketball> , W:Failed to fetch mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt/dists/precise-backports/universe/source/Sources  403  Forbidden [Mirror: http://mirror.tcpdiag.net/ubuntu/]
[16:45] <Basketball> , W:Failed to fetch mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt/dists/precise-backports/multiverse/source/Sources  403  Forbidden [Mirror: http://mirror.tcpdiag.net/ubuntu/]
[16:45] <eeee> Basketball: stop pasting please
[16:45] <TJ-> saiarcot895: I believe SimonJai already did that with several locales
[16:45] <Basketball> eeee,
[16:46] <eeee> Basketball: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:46] <AVDA> Basketball : use pastebin XD
[16:46] <Basketball> http://pastebin.com/ZW6V3U6T
[16:47] <SimonJai> what locale does this DistUpgradeViewText support...... dammit! ><
[16:49] <saiarcot895> SimonJai: what does "echo $LANG; echo $LANGUAGE" say?
[16:50] <SimonJai> saiarcot895: echo $LANG > en_GB
[16:50] <TeraJL> i've ran " cat /proc/interrupts" and i get  http://pastebin.com/XuwefL5C
[16:51] <TeraJL> TJ-:
[16:51] <saiarcot895> SimonJai: that seems...lacking. My $LANG is en_US.UTF-8
[16:51] <Basketball> eeee,  http://pastebin.com/ZW6V3U6T
[16:51] <SimonJai> how do i change it?
[16:53] <saiarcot895> SimonJai: you can just do "export LANG=en_GB.UTF8" as a temporary change. Make sure the locale generator command said that the en_GB.UTF8 was generated or up-to-date.
[16:53] <saiarcot895> SimonJai: s/en_GB.UTF8/en_GB.UTF-8/g
[16:53] <SimonJai> saiarcot895: no good, still not working
[16:53] <SimonJai> let me try reboot
[16:55] <SimonJai> no good =/
[16:57] <TJ-> SimonJai: I've been playing about with manually launching the Python components here
[16:57] <SimonJai> oh? :O
[16:57] <TeraJL> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/dWqNfBU5 after running for a little more time, because i had to reboot to re-insert the HDD
[16:58] <eeee> Basketball: 1 sec
[17:00] <TJ-> SimonJai: Try "sudo do-release-upgrade --frontend DistUpgradeViewText" - in theory it should only try that frontend, but the same fault might occur, but that helps narrow it down
[17:01] <SimonJai> TJ-: nope, same error
[17:01] <TeraJL> TJ-: i've been disabling and enabling by "echo 'disable' > /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe12 " and the '9' stops, the "LOC" slows down
[17:01] <TJ-> TeraJL: That looks like the i8042 is the culprit
[17:01] <eeee> Basketball: use this sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/8207826/
[17:02] <TJ-> SimonJai: You mean it lists all the View* types as being attempted?
[17:02] <SimonJai> yep
[17:02] <eeee> Basketball: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup; gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:02] <SimonJai> DIstUpgradeViewText (unsupported locale setting)
[17:03] <eeee> Basketball: delete what you have and paste that there and save
[17:03] <TJ-> SimonJai: OK, so it only sets that as the primary preference
[17:03] <eeee> Basketball: then sudo apt-get update
[17:03] <TeraJL> what "i8042" means?
[17:04] <Basketball> eeee, do i download that paste
[17:04] <SimonJai> BINGO!!!!!!!!!
[17:04] <SimonJai> hold on
[17:04] <TJ-> SimonJai: what does "ls /usr/share/locale/ubuntu-release-upgrader" report?
[17:05] <AVDA> TeraJL: old keyboard controllr
[17:05] <eeee> Basketball: yeah copy it and paste into gedit
[17:05] <eeee> Basketball: delete what's in sources.list first
[17:05] <eeee> ( in gedit, after you've run the cp command )
[17:05] <TJ-> TeraJL: Try adding to the kernel command line: "i8042.nomux=1"
[17:05] <SimonJai> TJ-: I've worked out the problem
[17:05] <SimonJai> let me confirm
[17:05] <TeraJL> AVDA: i have a new laptop
[17:06] <Aeo> hey, quick question about XFCE is that OK in here
[17:06] <Basketball> eeee,  great did i do something wrong in my script http://collabedit.com/m9yng to cause that
[17:06] <TeraJL> TJ-: i'll try
[17:07] <Dvarjen> hello! Im having some problems with cron today. I'm running a script which sends sms and calls the person on-call using gnokii. The problem I have is that i migrated to a new host (and newer ubuntu) and now it wont run beyond sending AT\r\n.
[17:07] <Dvarjen> hello! Im having some problems with cron today. I'm running a script which sends sms and calls the person on-call using gnokii. The problem I have is that i migrated to a new host (and newer ubuntu) and now it wont run beyond sending AT\r\n.
[17:07] <TJ-> !patience | Dvarjen
[17:07] <Dvarjen> whoops, sry for spamming.
[17:08] <Dvarjen> this wasn't my terminal :P
[17:08] <AVDA> Dvarjen: we're busy as well
[17:08] <expunge> Dvarjen: try running it not as a cron first, from your ordinary term
[17:09] <Dvarjen> expunge: yeah that works flawlessly.
[17:09] <TeraJL> TJ-: just to be sure, to add the "i8042.nomux=1" option, can i just add it to "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT" on "/etc/default/grub"?
[17:09] <expunge> Dvarjen: exact same command?
[17:09] <TJ-> TeraJL: Yes
[17:10] <Dvarjen> expunge: Yes. Even got it running with env -i /path/to/script.
[17:10] <TJ-> Dvarjen: Does the cron script owner have permissions for dialout ?
[17:11] <Dvarjen> expunge: TJ- : yes. Im actually running it as root right now.
[17:12] <expunge> root has all permissions, though =P
[17:12] <expunge> I said ordinary term
[17:12] <eeee> Basketball: yes, your script is modifying the sources.list
[17:12] <Dvarjen> yeah so it should work right? Even if i run it from roots crontab?
[17:12] <SimonJai> TJ-, saiarcot895, k1l_: It's because for some reason in my /etc/default/locale, LC_ALL is set as POSIX
[17:12] <SimonJai> changed it to en_GB.UTF-8, all good now
[17:12] <TJ-> SimonJai: Aha
[17:13] <expunge> Dvarjen: running it as root is irrelevant unless you're going to tell cron to do that, too
[17:13] <expunge> Dvarjen: you need to run it as non-root, or as whatever user cron will use
[17:13] <SimonJai> ><
[17:13] <saiarcot895> SimonJai: someone or something was in the wrong decade :)
[17:13] <SimonJai> hahahaha
[17:14] <SimonJai> the machines are taking over !!!
[17:14] <AVDA> Is it possible to get persistence running on Maverick?
[17:14] <userings> Wake up, Neo.
[17:14] <Dvarjen> expunge: I'm running it through roots crontab so it should work.
[17:14] <TJ-> SimonJai: I'd suggest finding out why ... else after the upgrade something that depends on that custom setting might break
[17:15] <expunge> Dvarjen: okay, what've you got in cron?
[17:15] <SimonJai> TJ-: true that sir
[17:15] <TeraJL> TJ-: i get the same problem... i tried with windows on my pc i got the same problem on the first core
[17:16] <TJ-> TeraJL: Does it continue to happen if you remove that caddy?
[17:16] <TeraJL> TJ-: not
[17:16] <Dvarjen> expunge:" */5 * * * * /tmp/test.sh >> /tmp/test.log 2>&1"
[17:16] <TeraJL> TJ-: that is actually that only thing that indicated me that the problem is the caddy
[17:16] <TJ-> TeraJL: OK, then the caddy is causing it, replace it with a decent one!
[17:17] <TJ-> TeraJL: It looks like the caddy isn't passive, or else the pass-through circuit board is not correct for that system
[17:18] <Dvarjen> expunge: http://pastebin.com/WU2RPf3z here is my test-script.
[17:18] <expunge> Dvarjen: sure you don't want 2>&1 >> /tmp/test.log ?
[17:18] <TeraJL> TJ-: it's weird because if i disable the GPE12 interrupt i did not found any problem with the disk, and i can use it... i was just afraid that i may find some problem
[17:19] <eeee> Basketball: not sure how good the script is in terms of installing all those ppa's and whatnot, but you could replace the repositories with the pastebin ones if you wanted to use it
[17:19] <SimonJai> thanks for your help guys !
[17:19] <saiarcot895> SimonJai: you're welcome
[17:20] <reversiblean> I can't get plymouth to work properly unless i set GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX in grub conf. But it seems to load vesafb driver and it cause random freezes.
[17:20] <TeraJL> TJ-: but problem it's just the caddy... thanks for all the help, you helped me allot :D
[17:20] <TeraJL> *probably
[17:20] <Dvarjen> expunge: what difference does that make? I'll try it though.
[17:21] <TJ-> Dvarjen: expunge: Redirects order is correct
[17:21] <eutheria> is there a stable ppa for gcc 4.9?
[17:22] <eeee> Dvarjen: it won't run like that, you have to do sh /tmp/test.sh
[17:22] <Basketball> eeee,  i am going to run the script again to see if that is what caudsed the problem
[17:22] <eeee> Basketball: no, i'm sure it is
[17:22] <eeee> lol
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> eutheria  what's new in gcc 4.9 ?
[17:23] <eutheria> MonkeyDust: better error reporting, i wanted to check it out
[17:23] <Basketball> eeee,  well can you help me find what line it is so i can use my script i have spent like 12 hours on it
[17:23] <eeee> lines 40 to 54
[17:23] <eeee> remove them and put the ones from pastebin
[17:24] <Dvarjen> TJ-: expunge: when i changed the order i dont get the strace text in the /tmp/test.log file. Instead i get it as a mail from cron.
[17:24] <TJ-> Dvarjen: That would be expected; you had it correct already
[17:25] <Dvarjen> eeee: it runs the script though. As the actual appplication gnokii starts and seems to hang.
[17:25] <TJ-> Dvarjen: so what does the strace log reveal?
[17:25] <eeee> weird, i get a permission denied if i run that
[17:26] <Dvarjen> TJ-: I'll force a new logfile. Been testing loads on the old one.
[17:29] <AVDA> Night all.
[17:29] <expunge> adios
[17:29] <Basketball> hey so at school we use synergy student vue for grades.  It has a feature where it puts all assignments into calander tab.  Is there a way to sync this calander with one on ubuntu
[17:30] <expunge> Basketball: probably
[17:30] <Basketball> expunge,  how
[17:30] <SchrodingersScat> !caldav
[17:30] <Nickwiz> S?/&%¤. I just started upgrade of Ubuntu without backup or panick PC. This is scary.
[17:30] <expunge> Basketball: what's the calendar format?
[17:31] <expunge> Nickwiz: you can always use the live OS in a pinch
[17:31] <Nickwiz> Three “two fingers whiskey's” straight down, a pack of cigarettes and a panic fund for a night on the town if it goes bad.
[17:31] <expunge> hah
[17:31] <expunge> you could put little packets of that into bottles and sell it as vitamins
[17:31] <Basketball> idk
[17:31] <baako> f
[17:32] <baako> hi guys i reset my password
[17:32] <Nickwiz> Yes, but if this goes bad, I'm so screwed. Tons of things to do, but have to do the, so long prolonged, upgrade.
[17:32] <expunge> baako: neat
[17:32] <AndChat|505161> hi guys i reset my password.
[17:33] <AndChat|505161> but when i try to log in
[17:33] <AndChat|505161> Nothing happens
[17:33] <AndChat|505161> i dont get any error message. Why?
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> AndChat|505161  next time, ask questions in one single line
[17:33] <expunge> AndChat|505161: nothing happens meaning?
[17:34] <AndChat|505161> i get thr log in screen again
[17:34] <AndChat|505161> *the
[17:34] <AndChat|505161> not error message to say if the password is wrong like it normally do
[17:34] <k1l_> AndChat|505161: encryption?
[17:35] <AndChat|505161> what encryption?
[17:35] <Basketball> expunge, idk
[17:35] <k1l_> do you use encrypted /home or full system encryption?
[17:35] <expunge> Basketball: dk what?
[17:35] <Nickwiz> expunge: I have a stack of empty Underberg bottles. Perhaps I should tap them and re-label as upgrade vitamins.
[17:35] <AndChat|505161> i when to the root. and did 1) ls /home 2) mount -rw -o remount /
[17:35] <AndChat|505161> passwd baako
[17:35] <Basketball> "<expunge> Basketball: what's the calendar format?"
[17:35] <expunge> Nickwiz: =)
[17:35] <AndChat|505161> then i sent a new password
[17:36] <expunge> Basketball: what type of file can you get it as?
[17:36] <SimonJai> shit wtf....
[17:36] <SimonJai> upgrade didn't install grub
[17:36] <Basketball> expunge,  i cant download it it is embeded into site
[17:36] <AndChat|505161> i then try to log in with it but nothing happens. no error to say thr password is wrong
[17:36] <expunge> Nickwiz: that good?
[17:36] <expunge> Basketball: websites are downloaded information =)
[17:36] <Nickwiz> Underberg?
[17:36] <TJ-> AndChat|505161: Are you able to log-in at a VT?
[17:37] <Basketball> expunge,  well idk how to get it it syncs with the gradebook to add all assignments to the calander
[17:37] <AndChat|505161> TJ VT? please use full name i am still new to ubuntu ans linux in general
[17:37] <expunge> Basketball: see if you can wget it
[17:38] <TJ-> AndChat|505161: Virtual Terminal; press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to tty #1 and try logging in there
[17:38] <talsamon> Is there any link explains how to configure adminer on 14.04 (and why in the hell there's no httpd.conf ??)
[17:38] <Basketball> expunge,  /home/harris/PXP_Calendar.aspx?AGU=0
[17:39] <perre> oii
[17:39] <perre> someone can help me out with 'xmllint' ?
[17:39] <streulma> hello, After comeback from suspend on Macbook Pro 13 inch 2012, the screen flickers immediatly on Ubuntu 14.04.1. Fix?
[17:39] <baako> a
[17:39] <perre> b
[17:39] <streulma> c
[17:39] <perre>  lol
[17:39] <baako> TJ what am i looking for?
[17:40] <streulma> This screen flicker bug is already there on other Macbooks too. By releases before... big problem
[17:40] <baako> last login: sun apr 13 19:52:44 BST 2014 on tty2
[17:41] <TJ-> baako: So you're able to log-in on tty2, so the log-in works. do you see all your user files and directories if you do "ls"
[17:41] <streulma> als MiniDisplay Port to HDMI adapter is not working good...
[17:41] <Basketball> expunge,  please
[17:42] <Dvarjen> TJ-: expunge: Here is the strace log from gnokii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8208159/
[17:42] <baako> TJ Access your private data desktop readme.txt
[17:42] <baako> TJ thats when i type in ls
[17:42] <TJ-> baako: If you see a few files that have "ecrypt" or similar in their names, you've got an encrypted home directory, and changing the password of the user account the way you did has prevented the ecryptfs tools from decrypting your home directory
[17:43] <baako> TJ :( what do i do?
[17:44] <TJ-> baako: The way ecryptfs home-directory encryption works is a random master passphrase is used to encrypt files with, and that passphrase is cryptographically wrapped using the user password as the key. If you change the user password without also changing the wrapper key, then the system can no longer access the user's encrypted files automatically
[17:45] <baako> TJ so will the old password still work if i manage to remember it?
[17:45] <SimonJai> sooooo after my do-release-upgrade, it boots up into GNU GRUB =(
[17:45] <TJ-> baako: When the encrypted home was created the system will have recommended you securely back-up the unwrapped passphrase for just this kind of situation. Without that unwrapped passphrase, it can't be decrypted
[17:45] <baako> i dont remember doing that
[17:45] <TJ-> baako: Yes; if you can recall the old password there is a tool to change the wrapper
[17:46] <baako> what is the tool
[17:46] <baako> TJ how do i get back to the GUI by the way?
[17:46] <Dvarjen> baako: ctrl + alt + F7
[17:47] <baako> Thanks
[17:47] <TJ-> baako: If you can recall the old password, you use "ecryptfs-rewrap-passphrase" to change the wrapper
[17:48] <baako> TJ is they anyway i can back up all my videos and picture? i need to reinstall ubuntu again
[17:49] <TJ-> baako: Everything is encrypted and stored under "/home/.ecryptfs/"
[17:50] <expunge> baako: why do you need to reinstall?
[17:50] <baako> expunge because i can remember the password to log in
[17:50] <expunge> baako: you don't need to, you can simply change it
[17:50] <Mussolini> hi Everybody
[17:50] <TJ-> baako: If you can recall the old password, you use "ecryptfs-rewrap-passphrase" to change the wrapper
[17:51] <expunge> oh and if it's encryption, reinstalling still won't help you
[17:51] <expunge> Mussolini: hi
[17:51] <Dvarjen> TJ-: expunge: Here is the strace log from gnokii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8208159/
[17:52] <baako> TJ by using ecryptfs *** what do i put at the end
[17:52] <Mussolini> Anybody here, already installed the program reaver on ubuntu ?
[17:53] <TJ-> baako: just run the command and follow the instructions
[17:53] <TJ-> Dvarjen: No clues there
[17:53] <Dvarjen> TJ-: yeah, same here. =(
[17:53] <baako> TJ i run it and it says [file]
[17:54] <expunge> MushroomNZ: probably someone has
[17:54] <baako> encryptfs-rewrap-passphrase[file]
[17:55] <baako> TJ please help
[17:55] <Basketball> when i use gpart to partion flashdrive as fat32 it says file usded by system not making file or something like that
[17:56] <Dvarjen> Basketball: is the flashdrive mounted?
[17:56] <expunge> Basketball: 'mount'
[17:56] <GridCube> does 14.04 already run over mir? or you need to do something to enable that?
[17:57] <Basketball> expunge,  how can i tell Dvarjen
[17:57] <Dvarjen> Basketball: just run "mount"
[17:57] <zertyui> hi
[17:57] <zertyui> hi
[17:57] <GridCube> !hi | zertyui
[17:57] <GridCube> !hello | zertyui
[17:57] <GridCube> welp
[17:57] <Basketball> Dvarjen, http://pastebin.com/EULaT1s6
[17:58] <Dvarjen> Basketball: /dev/sdb on /media/5D10-3800 type vfat  this seems like the one.
[17:58] <daniel__> Raven
[17:58] <Dvarjen> just use "umount /media/5D10-3800" and try again
[17:58] <Dvarjen> Basketball: ^^
[17:59] <Raven-1> So why is it that gnome just sucks for multi monitors?
[18:00] <expunge> Raven-1: they abandoned a lot of multimonitor code for version 3
[18:00] <zertyui> i got an ssh public key
[18:00] <expunge> so now all the code is immature
[18:00] <zertyui> i got an ssh private key also
[18:00] <zertyui> i would like to connect to my server using that private key
[18:00] <zertyui> how to do ?
[18:00] <Raven-1> I did a fresh install of Ubuntu Gnome because no matter what I did, the monitor order would get jumbled up on boot and I'd have to rearrange it. And it does the same thing with the fresh install. No matter what.
[18:01] <ryan_46> On my xfce desktop I have lost the frames around my application windows so that I cannot move them nor raise one window above another. How can I fix this?
[18:01] <Dvarjen> zertyui: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[18:01] <Raven-1> expunge they did?
[18:01] <Raven-1> expunge so would you suggest I just use unity
[18:02] <expunge> Raven-1: Unity is GNOME 3, mostly
[18:02] <Raven-1> expunge but unity seems to work flawlessly in contrast
[18:02] <expunge> Raven-1: mmm, different wm
[18:02] <expunge> compiz has pretty good multimonitor support
[18:02] <expunge> you could also use GNOME with compiz, if you wanted
[18:03] <expunge> ryan_46: nohup xfwm4 --replace > /dev/null &
[18:03] <Raven-1> gnome with compiz?
[18:03] <Raven-1> how do I do that?
[18:04] <baako> Hi guys. I check my password because i forgot the one i used to log in. i can log in in terminal crtl+art+f1 but when i try it with the GUI i doesn't let me log in and i domt get any error message. I am new to Ubuntu please help me
[18:04] <ryan_46> expunge:  OK I will try that. Thanks.
[18:06] <ryan_46> expunge:  I got back [1] 1570. Does that mean anything to you?
[18:06] <expunge> Raven-1: just run compiz --replace from in GNOME, and save your session
[18:07] <expunge> ryan_46: you get window borders?
[18:07] <SecretFire> how can i disable the screen saver so i dont have to log in for being idle?
[18:07] <ryan_46> expunge: I will have to log out to find out.
[18:07] <expunge> SecretFire: probably look for 'screen' or 'saver' or 'lock' in system settings
[18:07] <expunge> ryan_46: no...
[18:08] <expunge> ryan_46: you'd have to log out to be sure it persists across logins, but not to see if the borders came back
[18:09] <TJ-> baako: I've already told you why you can't log-in
[18:09] <baako> TJ I understand but i dont understand what i need to do
[18:09] <alistair> how do i find out which kernel module controls cpu timer frequency, i can access it through make menuconfig but i want to access it outside of that so I dont have to reinstall a new kernel
[18:09] <HelloWorld321> Would someone please recommend a good, free, liteweight VNC server for Android?
[18:09] <expunge> HelloWorld321: #android
[18:10] <ryan_46> expunge: I am not in xfce now. I will log out. Thanks.
[18:10] <HelloWorld321> good call.  tx.
[18:10] <TJ-> baako: remember the old password, so the user files can be decrypted that the log-in process needs to complete the session start. Other than that, I'd suggest creating a new user account and using that until you can remember the password
[18:11] <baako> TJ i think i remember the old password but what do i do?
[18:11] <baako> try logging with it?
[18:12] <TJ-> baako: No, use the virtual terminal and run "ecryptfs-rewrap-passphrase"
[18:13] <baako> TJ i ran that but what do i do after?
[18:14] <guardianpwr08> i have a process that keeps starting up with the server, but im not sure how to stop it.... any ideas?
[18:15] <guardianpwr08> its "ts3server_linux"
[18:15] <godbod> This application is my first app
[18:16] <TJ-> baako: It tells you what it needs; in this case it needs to know the file containing the wrapped passphrase. I told you earlier that the encrypted files are stored under "/home/.ecryptfs/". In that directory will be a directory with the username, and in *that* directory an ".ecryptfs/" directory containing the wrapped file. So you might do "ecryptfs-rewrap-passphrase /home/.ecryptfs/$USER/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase"
[18:16] <Guest67030> expunge: I was the one (ryan_46) with the xfce frame loss. You got my frames back. Many Thanks.
[18:17] <littlebit> hello people, have been trying all day to pair my brand new wii motion plus with ubuntu, according to this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CWiiD
[18:17] <littlebit> the problem is that it fails at wminput
[18:17] <littlebit> command
[18:17] <expunge> Guest67030: well done
[18:17] <littlebit> can someone
[18:17] <littlebit> help
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> littlebit  start with a question
[18:18] <baako> TJ thanks
[18:18] <littlebit> MonkeyDust: ok, can someone help me with assisting of setting up my wii motion plus with ubuntu
[18:23] <SimonJai> can someone help me with GRUB? I'm not too familair with it
[18:23] <expunge> someone can, yup
[18:23] <yz3pD> !ask
[18:23] <TJ-> SimonJai: Sure
[18:23] <SimonJai> did an do-release-upgrade to 14.04 LTS, said to reboot to complete upgrade
[18:24] <expunge> mmhmm?
[18:24] <SimonJai> i rebooted and it takes me to GRUB screen, not sure how to get it too boot into ubuntu?
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> SimonJai  hit enter
[18:24] <SimonJai> it's a command prompt screen?
[18:24] <TJ-> SimonJai: See my guide: https://iam.tj/kb/pc/boot/
[18:24] <ryan_46> cexit
[18:25] <expunge> TJ-: hahahah
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> TJ-  i noticed a misplaced comma
[18:25] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: You would :p
[18:25] <expunge> TJ-: the real question is whether you chose that nick after you got the domain =P
[18:25] <TJ-> expunge: It's my name
[18:26] <expunge> that's what they all say =)
[18:26] <TJ-> export: hence the domain name because people try to tell my it can't be my name, and I say "I *am* TJ" !
[18:26] <expunge> SimonJai: what do you see at the grub screen?
[18:26] <SimonJai> grub>
[18:26] <phat4life> do any of you back up your files in s3 directly using cron + aws cli? I just setup a samba server in ubuntu and i am trying to figure out the best way to auto sync to aws certain directories on my numbers internal harddrives
[18:26] <SimonJai> it's liek the grub configs are gone
[18:26] <phat4life> *numerous
[18:27] <TJ-> SimonJai: That suggests that the grub.cfg didn't get migrated... Precise probably had GRUB v1 whereas Trusty has GRUB v2 - the upgrade scripts are supposed to deal with that
[18:27] <expunge> phat4life: could ask #aws
[18:27] <SimonJai> TJ-: i assume it didn't..... so what should i do?
[18:27] <phat4life> i am more looking like something similar to arq (which is mac only) for ubuntu
[18:27] <TJ-> SimonJai: type "set" and tell me what "root" is
[18:28] <SimonJai> it spat our ALOT of text
[18:28] <expunge> phat4life: the ordinary ways to preserve data are by copying it (with rsync) or tar'ing it up
[18:28] <TJ-> SimonJai: "set pager=1" then try again: "set"
[18:28] <SimonJai> 1 secv
[18:28] <SimonJai> sec*
[18:29] <phat4life> expunge: nah, i want to maintain the fiestructure
[18:29] <phat4life> expunge: aws s3 is key value store
[18:29] <SimonJai> root=hd0,1
[18:29] <expunge> phat4life: rsync and tar do maintain
[18:29] <SimonJai> TJ-: set > root=hd0,1
[18:29] <TJ-> SimonJai: OK now lets check what files you can see: "ls (hd0,msdos1)/"
[18:30] <voiceee> hi, my headphones are not working. Is there anybody to help me?
[18:30] <TJ-> SimonJai: I'm expecting you'll see some vmlinuz* and initrd.img* and config*
[18:30] <SimonJai> yep correct
[18:30] <expunge> voiceee: laptop?
[18:30] <voiceee> yes
[18:30] <voiceee> asus s550cm touchscreen
[18:31] <phat4life> expunge: aws storage is soo cheap there is no point to archiving
[18:31] <TJ-> SimonJai: OK, In a few steps time we'll be manually booting one of those kernel/initrd.img pairs, but first we need to find the root file-system
[18:31] <expunge> voiceee: intel audio?
[18:31] <expunge> phat4life: archiving isn't compressing
[18:31] <voiceee> yes intel
[18:31] <voiceee> alc270
[18:31] <expunge> voiceee: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto#Choosing_Your_Model
[18:31] <phat4life> expunge: comprjessing i mean
[18:31] <expunge> phat4life: I know that's what you meant, but I didn't ever mention compressing
[18:31] <phat4life> ah i see
[18:32] <phat4life> what did you mean by tar do maintain
[18:32] <TJ-> SimonJai: type "ls" and you should get a list of all partitions in the form (hd0, X) where X is a number. If you already know which partition contains the root file-system, use that in place of X to do "ls (hd0, msdosX)/" and look for the root filesystem
[18:32] <mario_> herumflausch
[18:32] <SimonJai> i only see (hd0), (hd0,2), (hd0,1)
[18:33] <expunge> phat4life: everything
[18:33] <ofdm> Has anyone a solution for this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2229904
[18:33] <SimonJai> TJ-: if I use (hd0,msdosX)/ it says no such partition
[18:34] <SimonJai> (hd0,1) contains the files you listed up
[18:34] <SimonJai> (hd0,2) says unknown filesystem
[18:35] <voiceee> hi expunge I couldnt find alc270 on that file /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/HD-Audio-Models.txt.gz
[18:35] <SimonJai> what you reckon TJ-?
[18:36] <voiceee> at the first step from the link you have sent
[18:36] <TJ-> SimonJai: I'm thinking the root file-system is the same as the GRUB root!
[18:36] <SimonJai> oh it may be, yes
[18:37] <SimonJai> "./ ../ vmlinuz* and initrd.img* and config*"
[18:37] <SimonJai> what next?
[18:37] <TJ-> SimonJai: check again, this "ls (hd0,msdos1)/" should show all the regular root file-system directories. If not, it's someplace else - it might be LVM for example
[18:38] <TJ-> SimonJai: If all you're seeing is the contents of "/boot/" when its mounted, then the OS root file-system is someplace else
[18:38] <TJ-> SimonJai: you'll have to bear with me; I'm juggling this and making dinner here :)
[18:38] <SimonJai> if i use msdos, it says no such partition
[18:38] <TJ-> SimonJai: Hmmm, that sounds like its GRUB 1 shell you're in
[18:38] <TJ-> SimonJai: OK, ignore the "msdos" bit
[18:39] <TJ-> SimonJai: In GRUB 2 it can read GPT and MBR partition tables, so it uses the prefix "msdos" for MBR and "gpt" for GPT
[18:39] <SimonJai> ahhhh
[18:40] <TJ-> SimonJai: So, let's check that. Id there is a "grub.lst" it is GRUB v1; if there is a "grub.cfg" it is GRUB v2: "ls (hd0,1)/grub/"
[18:40] <SimonJai> GNU GRUB version 1.98-1ubuntu9
[18:41] <TJ-> SimonJai: Hmmph! that's supposed to be either "grub 0.97-29ubuntu66" or grub2 2.02~beta2-9ubuntu1"
[18:41] <SimonJai> grub.cfg
[18:41] <TJ-> SimonJai: OK ... let's try loading it in case it'll fix it quick
[18:42] <SimonJai> sweeeet
[18:42] <TJ-> SimonJai: "insmod normal" then "normal" - if that works it'll load and run the grub menu
[18:42] <TJ-> SimonJai: I've been assuming you got the GRUB shell because grub.cfg wasn't complete, or was broken somehow
[18:42] <SimonJai> a lot of syntax error, incorrect command, unknown command 'hwmatch'.
[18:43] <TJ-> SimonJai: OK, so this sounds like you've got a mix of GRUB v1 and GRUB v2!
[18:43] <SimonJai> awesome
[18:43] <SimonJai> that sounds awesome
[18:43] <Basketball> End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[18:43] <Basketball>   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
[18:43] <Basketball>   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
[18:43] <Basketball>   the last disk(s) of this archive.
[18:43] <Basketball> unzip:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of /home/harris/Downloads/LibreIcons.zip or
[18:43] <Basketball>         /home/harris/Downloads/LibreIcons.zip.zip, and cannot find /home/harris/Downloads/LibreIcons.zip.ZIP, period.
[18:43] <unopaste> Basketball you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:44] <TJ-> SimonJai: I'm not sure how easy it'll be to fix this, but lets take a punt and get you into an initrd shell at least, that'll let you figure out where the root file-system is
[18:44] <Basketball> how is that a flood
[18:44] <Nectur> i hace an issue with my screen in xubuntu 14.04
[18:44] <Nectur> have
[18:44] <SimonJai> TJ-: look i took a snapshot before the reboot kicked me into GNU GRUB
[18:44] <SimonJai> i can get back into the OS
[18:44] <SimonJai> would that be easier to fix?
[18:44] <TJ-> SimonJai: "ls (hd0,1)/" and tell me what the latest kernel (vmlinuz-*) version is, *exactly*, so I can compose commands for you
[18:45] <TJ-> SimonJai: Well we only need to type 3 lines to get into initrd - its up to you
[18:45] <k1l_> Basketball: stop pasting stuff in here if you are not able to see the amount of text you are going to paste. use a pasteservice
[18:45] <SimonJai> alright
[18:45] <SimonJai> vmlinuz-3.13.0.-35-generic
[18:45] <Nectur> when i scroll up and down pages or watch movie or anything where only part of screen nerds to be updated(dirty region) i get some artifacts
[18:46] <Nectur> needs* sorrt for typos
[18:46] <SimonJai> vmlinuz-3.13.0-35-generic     ***
[18:46] <Basketball> k1l_,  ok
[18:46] <TJ-> SimonJai: OK: "linux vmlinuz-3.13.0-35-generic ro break=mountroot"
[18:46] <TJ-> SimonJai: "initrd initrd.img-3.13.0-35-generic"
[18:47] <TJ-> SimonJai: "boot" and fingers crossed
[18:47] <SimonJai> i think i missed something
[18:47] <SimonJai> when i type "linux vmlinuz-3.13.0-35-generic ro break=mountroot"
[18:47] <SimonJai> it says invalid file name
[18:48] <TJ-> SimonJai: Hmmm.... it will look for that file wherever "root" points to, which was (hd0,1)/ wasn't it?
[18:48] <TJ-> SimonJai: Did either of us mistype the filename?
[18:48] <SimonJai> root=hd0,1
[18:48] <SimonJai> nope we didn't
[18:48] <SimonJai> prefix=(hd0,1)/grub
[18:48] <SimonJai> when i type `set`
[18:49] <TJ-> SimonJai: The is weird
[18:49] <Nectur> is vmlinuz not corrupted?
[18:49] <Nectur> it was for me
[18:50] <TJ-> SimonJai: Hmmm, you might be better off trying the back-up - I have to go eat now and it looks like there's something fundamentally messed up there, especially if GRUB v1 and v2 have got co-mingled on the boot drive.
[18:50] <SimonJai> i just needed to add "(hd0,1)/" infront of the files
[18:50] <SimonJai> it booted into BusyBox v1.21.1
[18:50] <TJ-> SimonJai: Yay!
[18:50] <SimonJai> i need to get this back up online.... ><
[18:50] <SimonJai> noooooo
[18:50] <SimonJai> don't leave me
[18:51] <Nectur> do file /path....//vmlinuz.efi n see wghat it says
[18:51] <SimonJai> TJ-: not sure what to do in here
[18:51] <Nectur> oh nvm
[18:51] <TJ-> SimonJai: OK, you now have some Linux tools available to figure out where the root file-system is, once you've done that, you should reboot and go through this process again, but add "root=/path/to/root-filesystem" to the "linux ..." line and remove "break=XXXX" from it
[18:51] <SimonJai> alright
[18:52] <TJ-> SimonJai: someone else here ought to be able to help you at this point, but refer back to my PC boot guide - the flowchart goes into detail about the initrd process
[18:53] <SimonJai> to be honest, i'm not sure how to find the root path
[18:53] <SimonJai> ><
[18:53] <SimonJai> might have to do a rollback ><
[18:53] <alistair> how can i change the cpu frequency without having to reinstall the kernel?
[18:54] <sapik> cpufreq
[18:54] <Nectur> but anyone familiar with intel hd graphics on linux giving a simular issue? coz i have no idea what to google to get meaningfull informatio
[18:54] <Nectur> n
[18:57] <Beldar> !details | Nectur we don't read your mind here
[19:00] <cool_boy> hi, how to point bin to a directory?
[19:01] <SchrodingersScat> cool_boy: what are you trying to do?
[19:01] <sapik> mount maybe
[19:03] <cool_boy> SchrodingersScat: I have ~/bin directory, I want to point ~/bin to a directory in my system , on 'll' command it should look like " bin -> /home/ubuntu/workspace/Scripts"
[19:03] <SchrodingersScat> cool_boy: you might be looking for symbolic links?  ln -s   ?
[19:04] <cool_boy> SchrodingersScat: yes  but bin directory should point to /Scripts directory
[19:05] <SchrodingersScat> ln -s /home/ubuntu/workspace/Scripts bin  #?
[19:08] <sapik> maybe its the other way around
[19:09] <arkonen> .
[19:09] <cool_boy> SchrodingersScat: doesnt work
[19:09] <cool_boy> :
[19:10] <SchrodingersScat> maybe it's the other way around then
[19:11] <cool_boy> SchrodingersScat: with this method , I got a directory named Scripts inside ~/bin and that directory points to where I want ;)
[19:11] <Guest18225> question: I want to log in on irc using my ubuntu account specifically instead of a randomised guest handle. How do I do it?
[19:12] <k1l_> Guest18225: /nick nickname
[19:12] <SchrodingersScat> !register | Guest18225
[19:12] <okt> I had my main system drive fail, so I've got a replacement and am upgrading to 14.04, I have a few drives which were configured with mdadm in RAID1, what will I have to do to get it setup under the new install?
[19:12] <k1l_> Guest18225: but if that is already used by another one you get renamed to the guest nick
[19:12] <Guest18225> Thank you ubottu
[19:13] <SchrodingersScat> !botsnack
[19:13] <SimonJai> can someone give me a hand with GRUB and LVM?
[19:14] <SimonJai> my root partition is /dev/mapper/root, not sure how I set that in GRUB
[19:16] <Frank_Leach>  /msg nickserv register bornagain<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:17] <zflggr> Frank_Leach: /msg nickserv register bornagain<EMAIL_ADDRESS>were we to see it? :)
[19:18] <sapik> nice
[19:18] <SrPx> When I'm installing an OpenSSH server in a machine I have, but that isn't just for me, but for a group of people, should I just create a user called "mygroup" (or something) or is it better to just install with root?
[19:18] <SrPx> an user *
[19:19] <Flannel> Frank_Leach: You'll want to do that again without the leading space, and change your password (because you just said it to the entire channel)
[19:19] <Frank_Leach> ah
[19:19] <Frank_Leach> thanks flannel
[19:20] <tigrang> dustinspringman, hey
[19:20] <dustinspringman> tigrang: sup
[19:20] <TJ-> SimonJai: Back. Are you in GRUB shell now?
[19:21] <Frank_Leach>  /msg nickserv register foolsgold<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:21] <streulma> hi, why on Ubuntu after suspend on a Macbook Pro 2012 starts the screen flashing?
[19:21] <SimonJai> i can be
[19:21] <SuperLag> Does 802.11ac work with Linux at full speeds, or do you still get bumped down to lower speeds, as if you only had a .11n interface?
[19:21] <tigrang> dustinspringman, so I just realized what was going on. When I set to UMA Only in BIOS, it just prevented the OS from seeing the nvidia card, it didnt actually power it down. When I enabled discrete from BIOS, Linux saw it and power it down I guess
[19:22] <CodeGosu> i often need to have many diferent sources of information active at single time, so i need many windows next to each other insead of being alt+tabed throught them, i curently cant afford many monitors, is there any way to create huge vritual 8k x 4k something desktop area that i can scroll? or maybe is there some specialised window manager out there for such tasks.
[19:22] <dustinspringman> tigrang: that makes a lot more sense!
[19:22] <TJ-> SimonJai: In GRUB, for it to find file-systems on LVM, you'll need to "insmod lvm" ... if the module is found and loaded, then doing "ls" should list LVM LVs in addition to the raw MSDOS partitions
[19:22] <tigrang> dustinspringman, and I use bbswitch to power it up before I standby and then power it down after I resume which fixes the hang
[19:22] <SimonJai> mmmmm
[19:22] <SimonJai> if i do that, and it boots fine
[19:23] <SimonJai> how do i create the config file so it will boot everytime?
[19:23] <dustinspringman> tigrang: awesome! are you able to automate that or do you have to manually enter that command anytime you want to suspend?
[19:23] <phuh> What is correct? "some --thing=test" vs. "some --thing test"
[19:23] <TJ-> SimonJai: But, you likely don't need that in order to boot. All you need is the "linux ..." line I gave you earlier, with "break=XXX"  removed and add "root=/dev/mapper/root"
[19:23] <SimonJai> not sure it knows how to find /dev/mapper?
[19:23] <SimonJai> or does it
[19:23] <tigrang> dustinspringman, automated
[19:24] <dustinspringman> nice
[19:24] <dustinspringman> brb, afk for a few
[19:24] <tigrang> k
[19:24] <TJ-> SimonJai: Once it has booted, you can do "sudo grub-install /dev/sdX" where 'X' is the boot device, e.g. sda, then do "sudo update-grub" to rewrite grub.cfg
[19:24] <SimonJai> ahhhh
[19:24] <TJ-> SimonJai: The LVM stuff is inside the initrd.img, that doesn't need GRUB to understand to LVM
[19:25] <SimonJai> TJ-: my boot partition is /dev/sda1
[19:25] <TJ-> SimonJai: And, once the updates are done you can manually review the boot configuration before rebooting to ensure it appears sane
[19:25] <SimonJai> so do i still do "sudo grub-install /dev/sda"?
[19:26] <TJ-> SimonJai: Yes, because "grub-install /dev/sda" is installing the boot-strap code into sector 0 of the boot disk, as well as GRUB's core.img into the spare sectors from sector 1 up to the beginning of partition 1
[19:27] <TJ-> SimonJai: If you did "grub-install /dev/sda1" the device wouldn't boot and probably the install would fail since you'd be asking GRUB to insert itself into a file-system, and the only way it can do that is via blocklists of sectors
[19:27] <SimonJai> TJ-: wow! thanks for that
[19:27] <SimonJai> if i did it to both /dev/sda and /dev/sda1, would there be issues?
[19:27] <TJ-> SimonJai: The latter would likely fail, its pointless ;)
[19:27] <Frank_Leach> no one saw my password again right?
[19:28] <sapik> you could do --boot-directory
[19:28] <TJ-> SimonJai: provided /boot/ is listed in fstab and mounted, grub-install will install its modules into /boot/grub/i386-pc/ without any problems
[19:28] <Beldar> Frank_Leach, If you have a space before the post it shows
[19:29] <SimonJai> it should be, yes
[19:29] <SimonJai> mmmmm will have to confirm
[19:29] <TJ-> SimonJai: As this is a 12.04>14.04 upgrade, everything was in place already so this seems just to be an upgrade glitch
[19:29] <SimonJai> lucky i cloned the VM, and can do tests in parallel
[19:29] <eraggo> SimonJai: /dev/sda means physical hard disk (sdb,sdc,etc), sdXn (n is a number, Xletter) means partition of the disk
[19:29] <Frank_Leach> damn!!
[19:30] <Beldar> Frank_Leach, there is a showing at 12:16:20 when you do a correct msg to the server it shows as
[19:30] <cyclonis> quick question during a kickstart install of ubuntu does ubuntu read the preseed file first or does it just read the kickstart fikle
[19:31] <sapik> yeah frank it still shows
[19:32] <Nectur> did someone respond to me i missed it?
[19:32] <TJ-> SimonJai: This should make the process clearer: https://iam.tj/kb/pc/boot/#a_grub_install
[19:32] <SchrodingersScat> Nectur: I think someone asked for details on what your problem is.
[19:33] <Nectur> sorry i cant read back very far n ubuntu logsarent up to date
[19:33] <Nectur> my problem its hard to explain
[19:33] <TJ-> 19:46 <Nectur> when i scroll up and down pages or watch movie or anything where only part of screen nerds to be updated(dirty region) i get some artifacts
[19:34] <stoogenmeyer> safasfas
[19:34] <Nectur> when you scroll for instance down a page only part of the screen needs to be update and someone this gives some minor screen tearing
[19:35] <Nectur> sometimes*
[19:35] <Nectur> i dont know if this a driver issue or something else
[19:36] <Nectur> and thats my issue hop it makes senae
[19:37] <Nectur> only it affects everything not just webpages
[19:41] <whomp> how do i get networking setup when installing ubuntu from a flash drive on my mac?
[19:41] <SimonJai> thanks for all your help TJ-
[19:41] <whomp> it doesn't seem to find any wireless networks
[19:41] <SimonJai> I've been up for like 26 hours now, time to get some rest
[19:41] <TJ-> SimonJai: Ouch, I know that feeling. Hope its mostly sorted out now
[19:42] <SimonJai> rolled back to 12.04, it'll have to do for now
[19:42] <SimonJai> get some rest and tackle it when i wake up
[19:42] <TJ-> SimonJai: It sounds like the customised stuff is not compatible with standard Ubuntu upgrades
[19:44] <SimonJai> TJ-: oh with GRUB, do you have to specify the initrd?
[19:45] <cyclonis> quick question during a kickstart install of ubuntu does ubuntu read the preseed file first or does it just read the kickstart fikle
[19:49] <whomp> any ideas? i need to figure out how to get networking working while i install ubuntu on my mac, but it won't show any wifi networks. seems like it doesn't have the right drivers for my networking hardware
[19:50] <arkonen> 1
[19:52] <Busserl> whomp: You are installing Ubuntu directly, not in a VM?
[19:52] <whomp> Busserl, corret
[19:52] <whomp> correct
[19:52] <tworkin> hey i just booted up and am seeing 100% disk usage.. how do i use `du` to explore just 1 level deep at a time?
[19:53] <expunge> tworkin: what says 100% disk usage?
[19:53] <YLL> hey , i'm lookig for a small help , if anyone can help me would be really nice, (it is for a small project)
[19:54] <rypervenche> YLL: What is your issue?
[19:54] <SuperLag> YLL: just ask your question, friend.
[19:54] <MonkeyDust> tworkin  not sure how to do it with du, but this helps too... change 500M to whatever size you want : find / -size +500M -exec ls -lh {} \; 2>/dev/null
[19:54] <ThOr101> sorry if this is a dumb question, is XFS support built into 14.04.01 LTS?  I can't seem to mount an XFS partition I made elsewhere, but I'm not sure if that is because of 14.04, or something I did elsewhere.
[19:55] <rypervenche> tworkin: I like to start with "du -shc /*" and then move my way through the largest directories, doing "du -shc /dev/*" next, etc.
[19:55] <ThOr101> I installed the xfsprogs
[19:56] <YLL> i need to write a small shell command that would list each letter from A to Z from a file, (only once per line) and see the result in shell,
[19:57] <tworkin> du --max-depth=1 is what i was looking for
[19:57] <tworkin> thanks all
[19:58] <whomp> Busserl, any ideas?
[20:00] <YLL> no one can help ?
[20:00] <expunge> YLL: do what?
[20:00] <MonkeyDust> whomp  my advice: use a cable during installation, worry about wifi after ubuntu is installed
[20:00] <whomp> MonkeyDust, i don't have that cable
[20:00] <Busserl> whomp: sorry no, just thought it should be clarified.
[20:01] <TJ-> YLL: You want the letter frequency reporting, or just which letters appear?
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> whomp  somehow get one, it's faster, easier and more stable than wifi
[20:02] <godbod> LIST
[20:02] <godbod> QUIT
[20:03] <TJ-> YLL: "grep -o . <FILENAME> | sort -f | uniq -ic"
[20:03] <_1_Ridiculous> qw
[20:03] <YLL> the letter frequency (once per line in case it appears many times) and if possible showing all letters from a to z without writing 32 times the commad for each letter, EX : A - 224 (times) appears in file
[20:04] <godbod> /list
[20:05] <k1l_> !test > godbod
[20:05] <godbod> oh sorry
[20:05] <godbod> :)
[20:05] <godbod> I am sorry about all my weird messages
[20:07] <YLL> "grep -o . <FILENAME> | sort -f | uniq -ic"  is what i look for with the exception that it doesn't filter the numbers of times the letter appears (once per word must) the format is looking good; i tried with a grep -c it does count only once, but i do not have the same output format as with -o + sort ;
[20:07] <nutzz> apt-cache searches for packages installed on my computer or for the available packages?
[20:08] <saiarcot895> nutzz: available packages, as of last "sudo apt-get update"
[20:08] <nutzz> saiarcot895: thanks
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> nutzz  both
[20:09] <nutzz> MonkeyDust: if they are on my computer they are also available in the repository :D
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> nutzz  true.. apt-cache policy shows their status... apt-cache show shows more information
[20:10] <nutzz> MonkeyDust: thanks
[20:14] <t0ad-mini> hey guys, i'm trying to get the flash plugin for chromium so i went on the forums and saw that there's a plugin in the repos called pepperflash but it doesn't exist in the repos
[20:15] <saiarcot895> t0ad-mini: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[20:15] <expunge> t0ad-mini: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#Installing_Pepper_Flash_for_Chromium
[20:15] <dustinspringman> t0ad-mini: I use the ubuntu software center and search "flash".. installs in a couple mins..
[20:15] <t0ad-mini> Linux ubuntu 3.2.0-23-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 20:39:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:16] <saiarcot895> t0ad-mini: That would be Precise. You'll need to use a PPA.
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree | t0ad-mini
[20:16] <t0ad-mini> dustinspringman, i tried that and it wont find it
[20:16] <zykotick9> t0ad-mini: what's the output of "lsb_release -sc"?
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> 3.2 is 12.04
[20:16] <saiarcot895> t0ad-mini: See http://askubuntu.com/a/449266/241580
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> t0ad-mini  what's the output of: cat /etc/issue
[20:18] <matiasmm> Hello, I need to find out why linux account usually gets disabled. We use likewise to login in the system, and sometimes, even with the correct password, my account gets disabled (after 3 attemps). Is there anyway to log somewhere the login attemps including the password being used?
[20:18] <t0ad-mini> ubuntu 12.04
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> matiasmm  are you in ubuntu?
[20:18] <matiasmm> yes
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> matiasmm  and what's likewise?
[20:20] <tyrick> I have a question that is kind of subjective.... when you download a new program, do you softlink the executable into the bin folder (so that you can run the app from shell), add the path or the exe, or something else?
[20:20] <tyrick> lol... what do most people do?
[20:20] <trijntje> tyrick: put it in bin in your home folder, that should be in the default PATH
[20:21] <guntbert> !software | trijntje
[20:21] <matiasmm> MonkeyDust: it's a way to authenticate in linux using an Active directory Domain.
[20:21] <usr13> tyrick: That's pretty much it.
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> matiasmm  are you using ubuntu server?
[20:22] <matiasmm> nope, I'm on a client ubuntu desktop
[20:23] <usr13> tyrick: Well, not just /bin  but several  options, see   $PATH
[20:23] <YLL> "grep -o . <FILENAME> | sort -f | uniq -ic" can anyone give me a tip how i can have the same result as of this command but witch a grep -c ( i need to have counted only once per line letter ,( thnx )
[20:25] <usr13> tyrick: as trijntje points out, your home directory's /bin/ is also in your path by default, so...
[20:26] <Zer000> I need a little bit of help - lightdm won't start and let me login after an update. I'm running 14.10 (perhaps by accident I thought it was released when in fact it's a development version but whatever). Here is the relevant dmesg http://dpaste.com/2AE8NBX
[20:26] <expunge> YLL: what is it you want to determine?
[20:26] <sakamop> What bug trackers are in the ubuntu repos? I am having not much luck searching by category. I really don't fancy installing bugzilla manually.
[20:26] <Zer000> btw logging into a terminal and doing "startx" works fine...
[20:27] <ikonia> Zer000: re-install with 14.04 then
[20:27] <expunge> sakamop: bugzilla is
[20:27] <usr13> !14.10 | Zer000
[20:27] <YLL> the number of times each letters appears on each line (only once per line in case it does appear many times) in a specific file (sorted from the most present to the less) and show it on shell
[20:27] <sakamop> expunge: I am not seeing it.
[20:28] <Dvarjen> sakamop: use this then: https://code.launchpad.net/~tamersaadeh/+archive/ubuntu/bugzilla
[20:28] <sakamop> expunge: Looks like it was in lucid, but not trusty.
[20:28] <sakamop> Dvarjen: Thank you.
[20:28] <YLL> the command i've posted it is pretty close to what i need , with the exception that it does count many times each letter, and with grep -c i can't have a globat result ,(at least i haven't figured out yet)
[20:28] <usr13> Zer000: But, I'm curious how you could be on the development release by accident.  Can you explain?
[20:29] <expunge> YLL: what do you need, though?
[20:29] <expunge> oh you said
[20:29] <Snake2k> Ubuntu > Life
[20:30] <EriC^^> Zer000: sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm
[20:31] <akurilin> question: how easy is it to make one's own .deb from source in ubuntu?
[20:31] <ikonia> quite hard and requires experience to do it properly
[20:31] <akurilin> I need to install a very specific configuration of nagios on my machines and installing directly from source on each box seems like a bad idea
[20:31] <ikonia> to do it blindly using tools - easy
[20:32] <expunge> akurilin: boxes aren't identical installs?
[20:32] <usr13> Zer000: ls -l /etc/init.d/lightdm  #What does that say?  (Does it have executable bit?)
[20:32] <akurilin> they are, I just don't want to necessarily download/build/install on each one of them individually because it's going to make upgrading/maintaining/uninstalling a pain down the line
[20:32] <maksimka> hello, since I updated to 14.04, I keep getting these errors on every boot, can somebody explain the error and guide to a way for solving it? The errors are: http://pastebin.com/vKKkbVzW
[20:32] <akurilin> I use ansible myself, it makes it pretty easy to work with debs or ppas
[20:33] <Zer000> usr13, there's a file called that ya
[20:33] <EriC^^> Zer000: try to reinstall lightdm, sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm
[20:33] <FailFarm> couldent you write a script to automate install ?
[20:33] <rypervenche> Ansible is very nice :)
[20:33] <usr13> Zer000: Yea but does it have the executable bit set on it?
[20:33] <akurilin> ikonia,expunge: what is the biggest issue I would have in making my own deb?
[20:33] <expunge> akurilin: making it
[20:33] <Zer000> usr13, yes it does
[20:34] <expunge> akurilin: making a deb is something you do to help other people, not yourself
[20:34] <expunge> akurilin: if you just want to copy an install of an app onto many systems, there are simpler ways
[20:34] <usr13> Zer000: Is there a symlink to /lib/init/upstart-job ?
[20:34] <akurilin> expunge: what do you have in mind?
[20:34] <expunge> akurilin: basically you just copy the files to each system
[20:34] <ikonia> akurilin: helping yourself is fine
[20:34] <expunge> akurilin: checkinstall can help you keep track of them
[20:35] <usr13> Zer000: /etc/init.d/lightdm: symbolic link to `/lib/init/upstart-job'
[20:35] <YLL> expunge do you have an idea, how i could do the cmd i've asked for few mins ago ?
[20:36] <Zer000> usr13, no /etc/init.d/lightdm is a script by itself, not a symlink
[20:36] <expunge> YLL: if you specify an example of the input you have and output you want
[20:36] <Zer000> so ubuntu uses upstart, not systemd?
[20:36] <usr13> Zer000: That's interesting...
[20:36] <Zer000> are those different?
[20:36] <usr13> Zer000: Oh, you know what.... 14.10 is more-than-likely systemd
[20:37] <usr13> Zer000: But, as EriC^^ points out, reinstalling it will probably fix your problem.
[20:37] <usr13> Zer000: sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm   #Will probably fix it
[20:38] <YLL> ok well something like 2544 (times) - A in file.txt for exemple, (and this for each letter from a to Z)
[20:38] <Zer000> Ok i'm gonna reboot then bye and thanks in advance if it works
[20:41] <jarray52> I'm updating from Ubuntu 12.04LTS to 14.04LTS, and the update seems to have frozen on libnepomukcore4abi1. Is there any way to recover from this "freeze"?
[20:42] <jarray52> It is only the updater that froze. The system itself is not frozen.
[20:43] <Zer000> SO i disconnected a few times so I'll repaste the dmesg log http://dpaste.com/2AE8NBX  but it looks like 14.10 is systemd based and it can't find a unit file. Maybe I can copy over someone else's?
[20:44] <Zer000> also reinstalling lightdm didn't help...
[20:45] <Zer000> I also don't understand why journalctl (as root) says no journal files found :(
[20:45] <usr13> Zer000: You might ask #ubuntu+1
[20:46] <Zer000> oh i didn't know that existed.
[20:46] <Zer000> thanks
[20:47] <YLL> no chances with the cmd ? grep thing;
[20:48] <SchrodingersScat> YLL: you're counting letters per line?
[20:48] <Dvarjen> YLL:  do you really need to use grep?
[20:50] <jarray52> I'm upgrading from Ubuntu 12.04LTS to 14.04LTS, and the update seems to have stopped on libnepomukcore4abi1. I would like this package to be skipped. I have both gnome and kde installed. Is there any way to recover the upgrade?
[20:51] <maksimka> hello, since I updated to 14.04, I keep getting these errors on every boot, can somebody explain the error and guide to a way for solving it? The errors are: http://pastebin.com/vKKkbVzW
[20:55] <whomp> MonkeyDust, i just realized i don't have an ethernet port on this mac pro :(
[20:56] <usr13> maksimka:  http://serverfault.com/questions/494468/error-at-booting-server-ata1-00-exception-emask-0x0-sact-0x0-serr-0x0-action
[20:58] <maksimka> usr13:  I do not think the comment on that question is valid in my case.. the laptop is working great for 2 years and got errors only after ubuntu 14.04 installation..
[20:58] <usr13> whomp:  http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD463ZM/A/thunderbolt-to-gigabit-ethernet-adapter
[20:59] <yeats> jarray52: look in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/dpkg.log - are there messages there that might explain the hang?
[20:59] <usr13> maksimka: Maybe it is looking for a raid controller that does not exist?
[20:59] <t0ad-mini> thanks for the help guys
[21:00] <yeats> maksimka: it could be a coincidence, but it sounds like a hardware problem
[21:05] <moyilla> hello to all! I am not getting any sound from the video player, though the music player doesnt have this problem. how can I fix it?
[21:05] <maksimka> yeats: it boots fine with OpenBSD and Fedora, not sure if it is a hardware thing...
[21:06] <usr13> moyilla: Could be that another player is still using audio and it's not being released to the other player yet.
[21:06] <whomp> I'm creating a new 100gb ubuntu partition on my mac. Should I create a logical or primary partition? Should I create one for /home and one for /?
[21:06] <whomp> I'm just very new to this :)
[21:06] <usr13> whomp: It is up to you.
[21:06] <moyilla> usr13, no, it is the only player that is on
[21:06] <usr13> whomp: We  create partitions for our own particular needs.
[21:07] <moyilla> I tested the two players one after another
[21:07] <usr13> moyilla: You would have to be more specific
[21:07] <whomp> usr13: Should it be logical or primary?
[21:08] <whomp> And do I need a swap partition? Why can't it just store swap on the / partition?
[21:08] <usr13> whomp: You would have to show us what you have now, and what your end goal is.
[21:08] <whomp> usr13: What info do you need?
[21:08] <usr13> whomp: You should have a swap pertition.
[21:08] <usr13> whomp: Is this a new install?
[21:08] <whomp> usr13: It's being installed alongside my existing os x
[21:09] <moyilla> usr13, sure. I wanted to play a video on totem player, and the sound is not coming. though I checked system and player sounds.
[21:09] <whomp> Should the swap be primary or logical? I have 16gb ram, how big should swap be?
[21:09] <moyilla> there is no change
[21:09] <usr13> whomp: Are you preparing for a Ubuntu install?  Or are you trying to create more space for an existing system.
[21:09] <moyilla> I also checked the sound button of the computer
[21:09] <whomp> usr13: I'm preparing for an install
[21:09] <moyilla>  and, as I said, the music player works
[21:10] <usr13> whomp: Ok.  So you are preparing for a Ubuntu install.  Got it.  So, how big is your HD?
[21:10] <whomp> 500gb, 100 of which is free
[21:10] <whomp> The other 400 is for os x
[21:11] <usr13> whomp: So you have 100g of free space? (100g unpartitioned, free space on the one single hard drive)
[21:11] <whomp> usr13: Yes
[21:12] <usr13> whomp: Ok, then just start the Ubuntu install and the Ubuntu installer will create partitions for you.
[21:12] <usr13> whomp: Just leave it as free space
[21:12] <usr13> whomp: (100g will be enough)
[21:13] <whomp> usr13: I select "something else" instead of "erase disk..."
[21:13] <usr13> whomp: Yes
[21:13] <whomp> Then if I just hit "install now", it says, "no root file system is defined"
[21:13] <Marasgeon> hey guys, is there any way to place the close and minimize buttons of the windows right, in Ubuntu 14.04?
[21:14] <whomp> usr13: So idk how to get past that
[21:14] <usr13> whomp: You will find the option there some place to create the partititions.  I usually create 3
[21:14] <k1l_> Marasgeon: did you look into unity-tweak-tool?
[21:14] <usr13> whomp: How much RAM do you have?
[21:14] <Marasgeon> k1l: yeap
[21:14] <Marasgeon> nothing
[21:14] <whomp> usr13: I answered this stuff above and asked a series of questions about how to create the partitions
[21:15] <cyclonis> anyone automating ubuntu 12.04 with kickstary
[21:15] <cyclonis> anyone automating ubuntu 12.04 with kickstart
[21:15] <cyclonis> ?
[21:15] <Marasgeon> k1l: the system automatically change it to left
[21:15] <whomp> I feel like we're going in circles
[21:15] <usr13> whomp: 30G for /  8G for swap  The rest for /home/
[21:15] <k1l_> Marasgeon: so you did see the option and tried it?
[21:15] <Marasgeon> k1l: yeap
[21:15] <whomp> Great, and which ones should be primary?
[21:15] <usr13> whomp: I am not going in circles, you may be.  I just asked a question, (and you refused to answer it).
[21:15] <whomp> It's 16gb as I said above
[21:16] <usr13> whomp: It does not matter.
[21:16] <usr13> whomp: You have 16G of RAM?
[21:16] <whomp> So what do you pick, primary or logical?
[21:16] <whomp> Yes
[21:16] <k1l_> Marasgeon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-tweak-tool/+bug/1310056
[21:16] <usr13> whomp: It does not matter.
[21:16] <whomp> Ok
[21:16] <Marasgeon> ubottu: that's right
[21:17] <whomp> And still 8G for swap given 16G of ram?
[21:17] <jarray52> yeats: I'm not sure what to look for in dpkg.log. The last thing I see is status half-configured kdm:amd64.
[21:17] <k1l_> Marasgeon: see the bug report and read it with comments
[21:17] <usr13> whomp: logical
[21:17] <jarray52> yeats: If I fresh install Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, can I still save my home folder?
[21:17] <usr13> whomp: 16G for swap
[21:17] <whomp> For all 3?
[21:18] <usr13> (That is why I asked you!)
[21:18] <whomp> I really did respond earlier lol
[21:18] <whomp> But so all 3 partitions should be logical?
[21:18] <yeats> jarray52: have you backed your data up?
[21:18] <jarray52> yeats: No.
[21:19] <whomp> And why do I want a separate partition for / and for /home? Seems like it risks running out of space in one when I have space in the other partition
[21:19] <usr13> whomp: Yes, they *can* be logical partitions *if* you have an extended partition for them to go in.
[21:19] <yeats> jarray52: okay - first thing, then - back up your data to external media before doing anything else
[21:19] <whomp> usr13: How would I know?
[21:19] <usr13> whomp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning
[21:19] <nnn_> #leon
[21:19] <yeats> jarray52: if your /home directory is on a separate partition, you can just re-use it during the partitioning step of installation
[21:20] <whomp> usr13: Is 3 partitions required? Could I not just do one and have it use a swap file?
[21:20] <usr13> whomp: If you choose logical, the ubuntu installer will create an extended partition for them.
[21:20] <yeats> jarray52: otherwise you have to backup, then restore
[21:20] <yeats> !home | jarray52 - also this
[21:21] <usr13> whomp: Yes, you can use a swap file, but I do not recommend it.  (It is better to have a swap partition.)
[21:21] <Marasgeon> k1l_: yeah i already know that, i'm asking if someone came with some solution
[21:21] <usr13> whomp: It is also better to have a separate partition for /home/
[21:22] <jarray52> yeats: It appears that I only have a / partition.
[21:23] <jarray52> I only want to save /home/myuser. Can the Ubuntu 14.04LTS preserve this one directory when doing a fresh install?
[21:24] <usr13> whomp: I like to have at least 3 partitions.  1) swap (as large as RAM) 2) 30G+ for / (root directory) 3) /home/ (The largest which will contain all your personal files)
[21:24] <usr13> whomp: These are just my suggestions.  You can do it as you see fit.
[21:26] <whomp> Thx for the suggestions and all of the help.   1) swap (as large as RAM)  2) /  (root)
[21:26] <whomp> usr13: I'm reading that swap partitions no longer have performance benefits
[21:27] <usr13> whomp: Yes, you can believe everything you see on the internet.  You can believe everything you see on TV.  ;)
[21:27] <johnny_number_5> whomp,  link to actiual
[21:28] <usr13> johnny_number_5: It's not use.  People only believe what they *want* to believe.
[21:28] <johnny_number_5> to n ews
[21:28] <whomp> johnny_number_5: What?
[21:28] <usr13> johnny_number_5: sorry, I meant to say "It's no use."  ;)
[21:28] <johnny_number_5> who wheres the link
[21:29] <johnny_number_5> rrr. om too tired to type
[21:29] <whomp> unix.stackexchange.com/questions/20301/where-to-put-swap-space-at-beginning-or-end-and-other-swap-questions
[21:29] <whomp> Mentioned in the top answer
[21:30] <cyclonis> has anyone gotten static ip to work in preseed
[21:30] <whomp> Also here: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1617750
[21:30] <usr13> whomp: Take my advise, create a swap partition.
[21:30] <usr13> whomp: YOu have a 500G HD.  (Are you really worried about 16G?)
[21:30] <mic_e> hi, is there a trusty way to install bitcoin-qt in ubuntu?
[21:31] <mic_e> because seriously, if I happen to trust the wrong PPA, my entire wallet is gone
[21:31] <sapik> yeah swap is good
[21:31] <whomp> usr13: I only have 100for ubuntu
[21:32] <usr13> whomp: Really?  You have a 500G drive and you will only allow 100G for Ubuntu?  (Ok, well, it is up to you.) But even if you have 100G, that is enough.  100-16=84
[21:32] <kennen> Hi i have a quick question, i have some redirects in my apache.conf like thios "Redirect /pma https://xxx.eu/phpmyadmin" how can i do this in nignx ?
[21:32] <Akenat0n> Hola
[21:33] <whomp> usr13: The rest is for blu-Ray Martha Stewart dvds
[21:33] <usr13> whomp: haha.. that is good!  :)
[21:33] <johnny_number_5> actual swap that is installed on a differnent hdd when you install does matter. i have done it, and it works.  whomp  usr13
[21:34] <usr13> whomp: But really.... if you only look for reasons not to have a swap partition, that is only what you will find.
[21:34] <mic_e> well seems like there is no such way
[21:34] <whomp> Well anyways, I allocated 17gb for swap and 83 for /
[21:34] <whomp> Thx for the help :)
[21:34] <usr13> whomp: Good.  (You can thank us later.)
[21:34] <mic_e> I guess ubuntu is unsuitable for security-critical stuff like this...
[21:35] <netameta> How do i edit/save a file with vi ?
[21:35] <usr13> mic_e: Really?
[21:35] <johnny_number_5> there is a noticeable  performance gain with it. whomp  usr13
[21:36] <usr13> mic_e: Any Linux system is as secure as it's administrator.
[21:36] <whomp> That is good. I hate a stuttering Martha Stewart experience
[21:36] <johnny_number_5> mic_e,  what are you talking about?
[21:36] <usr13> whomp: That is what external drives are for.
[21:36] <mic_e> I asked for a secure way to install bitcoin-qt
[21:37] <mic_e> without risking to actually install a fake version that will steal my wallet
[21:37] <usr13> mic_e: Use a ppa
[21:37] <moyilla> usr13, have the infos been specific enough?
[21:37] <mic_e> so how do I know the guys who made the ppa didn't make it to steal my wallet?
[21:37] <usr13> mic_e: Find one y ou trust.
[21:37] <johnny_number_5> whomp,  yeap. the heavier the load the smoother the prefomce.
[21:37] <usr13> moyilla: What?
[21:38] <moyilla> usr13 ?
[21:38] <moyilla> usr13 we've been talking, if you remember
[21:39] <usr13> moyilla: Did not see the specific information
[21:40] <usr13> moyilla: Totem played sound, ______________ did not.
[21:40] <moyilla> usr13, then why dont you respond to me? and how can it be more specific there? and how can I know it?
[21:40] <johnny_number_5> mic_e,  have a test bed pc to install your stuff . so your not screwed out of coins
[21:40] <moyilla> usr13, this level of information is enough for other people to be rather helpful
[21:41] <usr13> moyilla: You got sound from totem.  Right?   What player did you *not* get sound from?
[21:41] <moyilla> usr13m you didnt even read what I wrote. and you ask me to be specific?
[21:41] <johnny_number_5> usr13,  why are you using totem when vlc has what you need and more?
[21:42] <moyilla> usr13 you didnt even read what I wrote. and you ask me to be specific?
[21:42] <usr13> johnny_number_5: I don't know.
[21:42] <moyilla> 'more specific'
[21:42] <johnny_number_5> usr13,  are you need or something??
[21:43] <usr13> johnny_number_5: moyilla is having problems with audio output for a particular player, (which remains a secret).
[21:43] <moyilla> is there anyone else here from whom I can get some serious and sociable help please?
[21:43] <usr13> !ask | moyilla
[21:43] <johnny_number_5> moyilla,  what do you need
[21:43] <johnny_number_5> XD
[21:44] <moyilla> usr13 just ignore anything I write. I dont ask anything else of you from now on
[21:44] <johnny_number_5> !bot | moyilla
[21:44] <johnny_number_5> pm the bot
[21:44] <moyilla> dont know why some assume the role of helper here. sure not for helping really
[21:44] <johnny_number_5> !sound | moyilla
[21:45] <moyilla> johnny_number_5 I have a totem player from which I dont get sound when playing videos
[21:45] <moyilla> johnny_number_5 I did all of these
[21:45] <usr13> moyilla: Did you try rebooting your computer?
[21:45] <usr13> Did you try turning up the volume?
[21:46] <usr13> moyilla: Are you sure the video you are playing has audio?
[21:46] <usr13> moyilla: Are you sure your speakers are still plugged in?
[21:46]  * eeee rofls
[21:46] <moyilla> usr13, did you try giving a blow job to a policeman?
[21:46] <johnny_number_5> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install vlc -y
[21:47] <usr13> moyilla: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:47] <johnny_number_5> agree usr13
[21:47] <moyilla> johnny_number_5 is this a known problem to totem?
[21:48] <johnny_number_5> !vlc | moyilla
[21:48] <johnny_number_5> vlc in like the best media players around.  moyilla  -
[21:49] <johnny_number_5> moyilla,   it has everything self contained. tomtom needs codecs installed
[21:50] <usr13> moyilla: If totem doesn't work for you, try another.  (How about mplayer?)
[21:50] <SchrodingersScat> mpv is king
[21:50] <moyilla> johnny_number_5 , tomtom?!
[21:51] <johnny_number_5> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install sudo apt-get install  ubuntu-restricted-extras -y
[21:51] <johnny_number_5> run this command
[21:52] <moyilla> one consults to channel for sound problem. solution: install another one.
[21:52] <johnny_number_5> spelling is not so good when you have been awake for a long time
[21:52] <moyilla> if ubuntu has problem, install debian.
[21:52] <johnny_number_5> moyilla,  your missing the codcs for the player
[21:53] <Ben64> totem is not a great player, mplayer2 is fantastic, vlc is good
[21:53] <johnny_number_5> you will have the same problem their yet still.
[21:53] <usr13> moyilla: Totem was written by Bastien Nocera<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:53] <usr13> moyilla: (from the man file)
[21:54] <johnny_number_5> he got kicked?
[21:54] <johnny_number_5> why?
[21:55] <ikonia> johnny_number_5: not a nice person,
[21:55] <johnny_number_5> Ben64,  hes mplayer good update to the point that its gotting better.
[21:55] <usr13> agreed
[21:55] <godbod> I agree
[21:56] <usr13> johnny_number_5: Get some sleep
[21:56] <johnny_number_5> ikonia,  yeah, even so when he comes back we can say we where trying to do all we can and he was being a jerk about it.
[21:56] <johnny_number_5> johnny_number_5,  never sleeps,i am a rebot
[21:56] <johnny_number_5> XD robot
[21:57] <godbod> I think even totem is good
[21:57] <Seromania> rebot xD
[21:57] <Ben64> john-mcaleely: really though, its hard to follow what you're saying. spend more time typing and less time hitting "enter"
[21:57] <godbod> on my ubuntu box, it seems that vlc is buggy
[21:57] <usr13> johnny_number_5: Usually not helpful.  Best to just ignore the rude behaviour
[21:57] <usr13> ... or kick'em
[21:57] <godbod> hun?
[21:57] <johnny_number_5> Ben64,  i guess your taling to me
[21:59] <littlebit> hello people, I have been trying to setup my wiimote onto my xubuntu. without any wiimote tools I'm able to detect the wiimote and partially map the keymaps (automatically) the arrow keys as well as the right- / leftclick, but no accelerator input that is supposed to move the mouse. Can someone help?
[22:00] <cyclonis> hello
[22:00] <expunge> ohai
[22:00] <littlebit> normal pairing with wminput doesn't work
[22:00] <johnny_number_5> hi cyclonis
[22:00] <johnny_number_5> littlebit,  hi
[22:00] <cyclonis> does any one have experience with preseed
[22:00] <cyclonis> ?
[22:00] <littlebit> everything appears in dmesg even
[22:00] <littlebit> johnny_number_5: hi
[22:01] <johnny_number_5> !preseed | johnny_number_5
[22:01] <johnny_number_5> what is preseed?
[22:02] <littlebit> johnny_number_5: don't know what you mean?