Scp does
[00:02] <willwork4foo> pythonirc101: that looks better.
[00:02] <pythonirc101> scp still stalls
[00:03] <willwork4foo> Odd.
[00:04] <pythonirc101> strace still hanging at read(7,..) --http://pbin.be/show/349/
[00:04] <pythonirc101> it used to work before I did a do-release-upgrade on my box
[00:06] <wolfric> where are the configs stored that are used with gconf-editor?
[00:06] <_jason> wolfric: why?
[00:07] <escott> wolfric, 11.10 switch to dconf storage
[00:07] <tomvolek> anybody has run IE under ubuntu ?
[00:07] <escott> wolfric, so its .config/dconf
[00:08] <wolfric> escott: i'm on 11.04
[00:08] <wolfric> _jason: curious, also it'd be handy to edit via ssh
[00:08] <escott> wolfric, then its ~/.gconf
[00:08] <_jason> wolfric: use gconftool-2 to edit via ssh
[00:09] <_jason> wolfric: those files are not intended to be edited manually
[00:10] <wolfric> _jason: i thought gconf had to be run as root
[00:10] <wolfric> is it configured on a per-user basis?
[00:10] <wolfric> gconf-editor*
[00:11] <abstrakt> so it seems my sound has stopped working
[00:11] <_jason> wolfric: I don't understand what you are asking.
[00:11] <abstrakt> rhythmbox doesn't give me any sound anymore
[00:11] <wolfric> well if it's global config then ~/.gconf doesn't make sense does it
[00:11] <abstrakt> i've been using the windows half of my dual boot for a while now and it's been a while since I booted to Ubuntu
[00:11] <abstrakt> rhythmbox definitely used to work, but now all I can hear is an occasional "click" in my headphones when I try to play something in rhythmbox and that's about it
[00:11] <_jason> wolfric: you should read: http://library.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/stable/gconf-1.html.en I think it will clear up how gconf works for you
[00:12] <abstrakt> it's as if something is happening with the sound system, but... not what I want
[00:12] <abstrakt> which is... well... music
[00:12] <abstrakt> i know this worked at one point but I don't remember when
[00:13] <abstrakt> i'm in XFCE, and when I click the little speaker icon in my system tray area i get the mixer
[00:13] <abstrakt> all levels are up, nothing is muted
[00:13] <abstrakt> my headphones are definitely plugged in to the headphone jack - i've double checked this numerous times
[00:13] <abstrakt> and i haven't unplugged them since I used windows last and windows plays my music - so I know that the headphones are plugged in to the correct jack
[00:16] <Xfce-user> Guys
[00:16] <Xfce-user> How are you all? :D
[00:16] <Xfce-user> I need some help login
[00:16] <Xfce-user> I had Ubuntu Oneiric Oncelot
[00:16] <Xfce-user> and installed Xubuntu-desktop
[00:17] <Xfce-user> I deleted Gnome according to the instructions at http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[00:17] <Xfce-user> and, now I can't login anymore
[00:18] <Xfce-user> Any ideas?
[00:18] <Xfce-user> Perhaps I should install ubuntu-desktop..  but, I do not have GUI. How do I do it?
[00:18] <Bunie> huh?
[00:19] <Bunie> use recovery
[00:19] <Bunie> sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get gnome
[00:19] <Bunie> (i think? someone correct me)
[00:19] <abstrakt> how can I trouble shoot this?
[00:19] <Bunie> I'm a noob, but thats what i'd do.
[00:20] <Xfce-user> How do I do recovery. Sorry, I am kind of a "noob" :P
[00:20] <Bunie> at the login screen you should be able to select different things, Gnome, Xfce, etc.
[00:20] <Bunie> if all else fails, CTRL+ALT+F1
[00:20] <Xfce-user> LightDM is not loading.
[00:20] <Xfce-user> And, I tried Ctrl+ALt+F1. It does not respond.
[00:21] <Bunie> it should bring you to a logon screen
[00:21] <leeg> hello i was redirected here from the debian channel, and i have a question that i would really appreciate an answer if you could
[00:22] <leeg> is anyone here
[00:22] <Xfce-user> :) Is there another way to troubleshoot or do recovery? I am currently running a live CD.
[00:22] <Bunie> Live CD...? you should be on your install
[00:22] <Bunie> CTRL+ALT+F1, then login, then sudo apt-get gnome
[00:23] <Bunie> am i right? why is no one else talking lol
[00:23] <leeg> you are
[00:23] <leeg> lol
[00:23] <leeg> can someone please help me i have a question
[00:23] <Xfce-user> I will try it again. Last time, accessing the virtual konsole was not possible.
[00:23] <Bunie> Whatcha need leeg? i'm the noobie of the room but it seems everyone decided to go afk at once
[00:23] <Xfce-user> Hi leeg.
[00:23] <leeg> whenever i put my laptop on sleep, it wont rewake, and it just stays black and i have to reboot it
[00:23] <leeg> hi kfce
[00:23] <Xfce-user> Maybe they are sleeping. ><:
[00:23] <Bunie> Have to reboot it? does it try to wake up? or does the power light continue to pulsate?
[00:24] <leeg> the power light is on, as if everything should be working, but the screen is black
[00:24] <acerimmer> join #ffmpeg
[00:24] <Bunie> could be a video problem.
[00:24] <leeg> alright
[00:24] <Bunie> ffmpeg? whats that got to do with it lol
[00:24] <leeg> what is ffmpeg, so i know what the people are like that im dealing with
[00:24] <Bunie> ffmpeg is a video encoder/decoder.
[00:25] <leeg> are there people there?
[00:25] <Bunie> yeah but i dont see how its even partially relevant to your issue :P
[00:25] <leeg> so should i go or stay
[00:25] <Bunie> i dont know if he was even speaking to you :S
[00:25] <Bunie> acerimmer: Why would he/we go to ffmpeg?
[00:26] <leeg> lawl
[00:26] <mint> is anyne that cen help me???
[00:26] <leeg> we can try
[00:26] <Bunie> Maybe, mint. :P
[00:26] <Bunie> the elder gods have abandoned us
[00:27] <leeg> pretty much
[00:27] <Oer> !nomodeset
[00:27] <Xfce-user> Resting.. taking a cup of coffe... watching a movie. Could be a number of things ><:
[00:28] <mint> why my pc says to me vesa grph drivers??
[00:28] <Xfce-user> Anyway, I will be back. I hope I can fix my problem.
[00:28] <Bunie> mint: is that saying "Additional Drivers"?
[00:29] <mint> no when i run compiz-check says vesa drivers your compiz wont run normaly
[00:30] <Bunie> Oh. i have no idea on that subject. hopefully someone else can answer you :P
[00:30] <Bunie> speaking of no idea, whats the linux equiv of ipconfig? (i need to see my IP :P)
[00:30] <MonkeyDust> ifconfig
[00:30] <cgfree> hi there, I am hoping to find some assistance with installing my DigiPro WP806 Tablet with Ubuntu 10.10 if anyone is available to help
[00:30] <mint> Gathering information about your system...
[00:30] <mint>  Distribution:          Linux Mint 11
[00:30] <mint> http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_katya_lxde.php
[00:30] <mint>  Desktop environment:   Unknown
[00:30] <mint>  Graphics chip:         ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
[00:30] <mint> /usr/bin/compiz-check: line 199: [: too many arguments
[00:30] <FloodBot1> mint: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:31] <aBound> Isn't this the wrong room to ask for Linux Mint users.
[00:31] <cgfree> hi there, I am hoping to find some assistance with installing my DigiPro WP806 Tablet with Ubuntu 10.10 if anyone is available to help
[00:31] <MonkeyDust> !repeat| cgfree
[00:31] <acidfrost> mint try #mint
[00:32] <cgfree> MonkeyDust, thanks
[00:33] <leeg> where are there so many people here
[00:33] <leeg> but noone is replying
[00:34] <dr_willis> leeg:  if someone dosent know the answer.. they done know.
[00:34] <leeg> haha i didnt mean it in a bad way at all
[00:34] <leeg> in fact i think its great that people are willing to help whenever you need it
[00:34] <[an]droid|kindle> There always are
[00:34] <mint> how can i change the window manager?? help plzz
[00:34] <leeg> but i mean, are they like afk or something
[00:35] <Bunie> mint: Install a new one? :S lol
[00:35] <mint> ive got lxde
[00:35] <dr_willis> mint:  select a differnt one at the login screen - is one way.
[00:35] <mint> mint
[00:35] <leeg> alright i gotta go, peace
[00:35] <dr_willis> or make a custome .xsession - for MINT help use the mint support channels -
[00:35] <Bunie> mint: At the login screen you should have an option to choose a different one
[00:36] <mint> compiz (core) - Error: Screen 0 on display ":0.0" already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager.
[00:36] <mint> why it tells e this
[00:36] <Bunie> are you on a seperate computer?
[00:37] <Bunie> from the one your talking about?
[00:37] <Bunie> you need to log out, and select a different one
[00:37] <dr_willis> mint:  becasue you need to normally use the replace option.. like it says.  'metacity --replace'
[00:37] <mint> no
[00:37] <urlin2u> !tab | mint
[00:37] <[an]droid|kindle> Mint join #mint
[00:37] <[an]droid|kindle> This is a channel for ubuntu
[00:38] <mint> thnxx il try
[00:38] <cgfree> would  someone be able to assistance me with installing my DigiPro WP806 Tablet with Ubuntu 10.10 if anyone is available to help
[00:39] <mint> on the mint channel 2 howrs talking to someone called alonso and nobody hepld me :D
[00:39] <nightcracker_> hi everyone
[00:39] <Xfce-user> s
[00:39] <nightcracker_> I'm trying to set up a null sound driver on a server
[00:39] <Xfce-user> Hey guys
[00:39] <Xfce-user> I am back
[00:39] <nightcracker_> but so far not succeeding
[00:39] <Xfce-user> Problem not solved. I can't still access lightDM
[00:39] <Bunie> Xfce-user: Did you install Gnome as i suggested>
[00:39] <urlin2u> cgfree, I didn't see a single link on google for that pad and ubuntu or linux, as a matter of fact no documents were found.
[00:39] <nightcracker_> I tried setting up ALSA
[00:39] <Xfce-user> I can't acces any virtual konsole
[00:40] <nightcracker_> but I still get this weird error when running wine
[00:40] <nightcracker_> err:dmloader:IDirectMusicLoaderImpl_IDirectMusicLoader_SetObject : could not attach stream to file
[00:40] <Bunie> CTRL+ALT+F1 should always work :S
[00:40] <dr_willis> mint:  sounds like a good reason to not use mint.
[00:40] <Xfce-user> (Ctrl + ALt + F1) dosn't work.
[00:40] <Xfce-user> It just blinks and blinks... only showing the mouse cursor
[00:40] <Bunie> Xfce-user: if you cant do anything with your PC you may be better off doing a fresh install
[00:40] <Xfce-user> :(
[00:40] <Xfce-user> I have to try hard for this
[00:41] <dr_willis> ive seen teh consoles not work properly if the framebuffer, and X video drivers conflict. But i havent seen that issue in years.
[00:41] <mint> :D lol
[00:41] <Xfce-user> I have more than 300 GB worth of files
[00:41] <nightcracker_> would someone be nice enough the help me?
[00:41] <dr_willis> Xfce-user:  you may want to try booting to Text mode   or recovery mode.
[00:41] <dr_willis> 300gb of files... thats all>
[00:41] <Bunie> Ohhh! Yes Ubuntu has text mode :D
[00:42] <Xfce-user> Hi Dr.Wills
[00:42] <Xfce-user> how do I do that?
[00:42] <nightcracker_> anyone?
[00:42] <[an]droid|kindle> mint: well you're bound to get nothing accomplished there
[00:42] <dr_willis> recoverymode is mentioned on the grub menu.
[00:42] <dr_willis> !text
[00:42] <urlin2u> !patience | nightcracker_
[00:42] <Xfce-user> I did not learn how to access grub. (U/Xubuntu is the only OS in this laptop)
[00:43] <nightcracker_> oh sorry
[00:43] <Bunie> dr_willis: if his install is like mine, we dont see the grub menu. something about quiet splash?
[00:43] <dr_willis> tap the shift key as boots to show grub menu  if its hidden by defailt.
[00:43] <cgfree> urlin2u, I know.... it's sad, the only link ive found is about DigiPro with WizardPen and the instructions are very confusing
[00:43] <Bunie> rly?
[00:43] <Bunie> gonna restart to check this out ;D
[00:43] <mint> i've used ubuntu 10.10 before ind i liked it ! but problems with my net drivers
[00:44] <dr_willis> i always set grub to not be hidden.
[00:44] <Xfce-user> By the way, I also posted in Ubuntuforums. But, I did not receive help yet: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1903963
[00:44] <Xfce-user> Shift key? ok, got it
[00:44] <cgfree> urlin2u, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetupWizardpen is what Im referring to
[00:45] <Xfce-user> I will try it then. I will be back to inform you guys of my success or fails.
[00:45] <Bunie> My ubuntu doesnt have a text mode listed, only normal and recovery. and recovery doest activate my wireless
[00:45] <urlin2u> cgfree, is your model listed in the ones known to work?
[00:46] <jimi_> I just installed ubuntu netbook. how can i get gnome installed? i dont likethis weird window manager
[00:47] <dr_willis> You enter the 'text' option on the grub command line.
[00:47] <Bunie> Ubuntu netbook doesnt exist anymore, i dont think.
[00:47] <urlin2u> Xfce-user, did you run the correct distro from the psychocats site and was there any tweaking to get it to run?
[00:47] <cgfree> urlin2u, DigiPro 5.5×4” Graphics Tablet is listed, but I have a larger one... im not sure the exact dimensions but it's like 8x6
[00:47] <[an]droid|kindle> jimi_: sudo apt-get install gnome
[00:47] <dr_willis> jimi_:  exactly what did you install? what version of ubuntu?
[00:48] <Xfce-user> Hi Urlin2u. I followed the steps to remove gnome (pure xfce)
[00:48] <urlin2u> cgfree, I would look at their site if they have one for linux
[00:48] <jimi_> [an]droid|kindle, apt-get install gnome gives gnome: Depends: swfdec-mozilla but it is not going to be installed
[00:48] <Bunie> oh great, recovery mode broke my ubuntu Q~Q
[00:48] <Bunie> i blame you, dr_willis
[00:48] <Xfce-user> and then did an "sudo apt-get autoremove" since the terminal mentioned that they are MANY uneeded apps
[00:48] <urlin2u> Xfce-user, right but did you bother to make sure it was for your release?
[00:49] <Xfce-user> yep
[00:49] <Xfce-user> it was for Oneiric Oncelot
[00:49] <Bunie> dr_willis: i started recovery, and selected "drop to command line" where i only typed "sudo shutdown -r now". why is gnome now saying "could not update ICEauthority file /home/bunie/.ICEauthority"?
[00:49] <Levy> Hey all does anybody know how I can get my Unity panel back?
[00:50] <|Slacker|> how can I install nvidia driver on oneiric, the driver that comes with doesn't work properly I'd like to install the newest one from nvidia site
[00:50] <urlin2u> Levy, have you been messing with compiz?
[00:50] <Xfce-user> urlin2u and Bunie. Thank you for your help. I will now restart to try to access the recovery mode from grub.
[00:50] <Bunie> Levy: you may be logging into the wrong thingy. :P
[00:50] <Xfce-user> See you in a bit
[00:50] <Levy> urlin2u, I been messing with compiz to enable the desktop cube and it went to crap.
[00:50] <dr_willis> Bunie:  i would guess the owner of that file is incorrect. Seen many forum and askubuntu.com posts about that file.  move/rename/delete it. or change its owner perhaps.
[00:50] <[an]droid|kindle> jimi_: just searc in the ubuntu software centre
[00:50] <Bunie> Xfce-user: Good luck
[00:51] <Ben64> My laptop is on wireless, and refuses all communication unless it has recently initiated a connection
[00:51] <Levy> I tried to re-enable my Unity plugin for compiz and didn't fix anything I had to use gnome-shell.
[00:51] <urlin2u> Levy, run unity --reset then reboot, then find a web page on dealing with compiz.
[00:51] <Ben64> For example - I can't ping it from my desktop until I first ping my desktop from the laptop
[00:51] <NeedHelp> I have some problems with my radeon, how could i set my lvds scaler to something like "Right-Top" insted of center?
[00:52] <Levy> Damn things break easily. :P
[00:52] <Bunie> dr_willis: That file doesnt exist
[00:52] <Bunie> dr_willis: oh and now its working, k nvm thanks :D
[00:52] <|Slacker|> nevermind, google saved me
[00:52] <|Slacker|> :)
[00:53] <NeedHelp> but google didn't saved me
[00:53] <NeedHelp> :(
[00:53] <NeedHelp> anybody
[00:53] <EuroNerd> Does anyone here have experience setting up VPN servers?
[00:53] <NeedHelp> google...
[00:54] <NeedHelp> am out..
[00:55] <|Slacker|> alright....things are too easy on Ubuntu :p
[00:55] <melengo> lol
[00:57] <dr_willis> !vpn
[00:58] <EuroNerd> dr_willis, I know what VPN is and I know there are tons of tutorials on the web. I need some general advice on the usefulness (or lack thereof) of VPN servers.
[00:59] <dr_willis> thats a bit 'vague'
[01:00] <icat> Hey, can anyone tell me why you ship mencoder without libdv support?
[01:00] <icat> and what it would take to change that?
[01:00] <Pickleface_> hi im using linux 11.10 the old gnome theme, how do I set appointments and stuff on the calender ?
[01:00] <dr_willis> icat:  legal reasons most likely. and  you could try mencoder from the medibuntu repos. or compile your own, or find a ppa.
[01:00] <EuroNerd> dr_willis, well, for starters, does a VPN tunnel (from my laptop in a cafe to a VPN server on VPS) work with all ports and protocols. E.g. if the internet cafe blocks anything but port 80, will I be able to use FTP (on 21) thru my VPN?
[01:01] <cgfree> urlin2u, hey sorry to bother you, but do you know how i could check to see wether the linux os is recognizing that the tablet is plugged into the usb port?
[01:01] <EuroNerd> dr_willis, and I mean by default, cuz I have no doubt you can set up all kinds of weird stuff if you spend a week googling and asking on forums/irc.
[01:02] <urlin2u> cgfree, lsusb   I assume it is a usb plugin
[01:02] <Bunie> okay guys one more thing i need! X3 how do i run an exe thru mono using console? :P
[01:03] <icat> dr_willis, tried really hard in finding a ppa, but couldn't
[01:03] <urlin2u> cgfree, lol you said usb DOH.
[01:04] <Bunie> Nvm new question
[01:04] <dr_willis> icat:  medibuntu might have a version with more options.
[01:05] <dr_willis> !medibuntu
[01:05] <dr_willis> No idea what libdv is used for. so thats all i can suggest.
[01:05] <Bunie> im running a server that saved to Documents, but now im running it over tty1, it doesnt detect the save. Why?
[01:05] <cgfree> urlin2u, from what i see it is not recognized
[01:06] <cowslammer> when booting off the install cd, what do i press to geta boot menu?  i have to a modeset or it won't come up
[01:07] <urlin2u> cowslammer, tap shift and hit f6 at the menu
[01:07] <cgfree> urlin2u, would i have to have the driver installed before i connected the tablet for it to be recognized, or would it be recognized either way?
[01:08] <urlin2u> cgfree, not sure really....is there a driver?
[01:08] <cgfree> well for windows theres one
[01:08] <proeverigen> hi
[01:09] <urlin2u> cgfree, might work in wine, I'm just guessing here I know nothing about wine.
[01:10] <dr_willis> cowslammer:  tap the shift key like a spastic tapdancer.
[01:10] <cgfree> urlin2u, no problem thanks for your assistance anyhow
[01:10] <cgfree> im going to trail and error it...
[01:10] <urlin2u> cgfree, no problem. :D
[01:10] <cgfree> :D
[01:10] <urlin2u> dr_willis, that is a funny image.
[01:13] <dr_willis> a little tapdancing tux.
[01:14] <daev_> hi just a quick one... I've just installed a fresh Debian Squeeze and need to upgrade my kernel for better hardware support on my laptop. should i upgrade the kernel before installing things like proprietry video or wifi drivers?
[01:14] <alkafoo> daev_: yup
[01:14] <dr_willis> daev_:  and you may want to ask in #debian :)
[01:14] <daev_> oh trust me i have :]
[01:14] <daev_> sleepy lot ;]
[01:15] <daev_> thanks alkafoo i thought that might be the case. but someone made me paranoid saying i'd need to recompile my drivers after a kernel update
[01:15] <fhtagn> howdy!
[01:15] <alkafoo> daev_: compile no, install, possibly
[01:16] <alkafoo> fhtagn: hi
[01:16] <fhtagn> i found this neat extension for vlc: http://addons.videolan.org/content/show.php?content=141787
[01:16] <fhtagn> is there a prefered way to install it? i managed to place it in /usr/share/vlc/lua/extensions/ and it works perfectly
[01:16] <fhtagn> but is there a clean way of doing it? apt-get or something?
[01:17] <alkafoo> fhtagn: unless there's a place in ~/ you can put it, that's probably the best there is
[01:17] <alkafoo> maybe ~/.vlc/ or ~/.config/vlc/ something like that perhaps
[01:17] <fhtagn> there's is also a place in ~/.local/<something> yeah
[01:17] <daev_> ah so if updating the kernel i could be prepared for a few drivers to break and need reinstalling? np. one last thing mr. alkafoo (if you have any experience with debian) i've heard that 2.6.38 is better than *.39 is that true? :p
[01:17] <fhtagn> ok, i just wanted to know if the package manager could handle it, because i will eventually forget all the files i place around the computer =/
[01:18] <fhtagn> thank you
[01:18] <alkafoo> fhtagn: yes, but I wouldn't be surprised if nobody's made a package for it, so you'd have to do it yourself
[01:18] <alkafoo> that's what's good about things in ~/, you can forget them as long as you remember to backup ~/
[01:19] <alkafoo> daev_: I doubt it is on the whole, 39 being higher than 38
[01:19] <alkafoo> daev_: every now and then a kernel version and a particular driver will be incompatible, though
[01:19] <alkafoo> particular driver/version
[01:20] <daev_> now that is useful information! thankyou alkafoo and thankyou rypervenche. hope you get your scout badges for this ;]
[01:20] <daev_> bbl
[01:21] <Bunie> is it safe to be logged in Twice? (using the tty things)
[01:21] <fhtagn> Bunie: sure
[01:21] <alkafoo> why wouldn't it be
[01:21] <escott> Bunie, yes
[01:21] <Bunie> im new to Ubuntu/Linux so i had to ask
[01:21] <fhtagn> Bunie: you might worry that your 'history' will be different in each session, and i don't know how it merges it later
[01:21] <Pickleface_> hi im using linux 11.10 the old gnome theme, how do I set appointments and stuff on the calender ?
[01:21] <aBound> Bunie, Welcome to Ubuntu. :P
[01:21] <fhtagn> but there should be no problem at all.
[01:22] <Bunie> using a tty thing to run a server without having a window open, while still easily keeping track of it :P
[01:22] <Pickleface_> can anyone help me..
[01:22] <nightcracker_> I'm trying to set up a null sound card with alsa on an ubuntu server, but I fail horribly
[01:22] <aBound> I might downgrade back to 10.04 LTS let's just hope firefox don't crash. :P
[01:22] <nightcracker_> I only get Invalid card number.
[01:22] <nightcracker_> Usage: amixer <options> [command]
[01:23] <nightcracker_> when I try alsa-utils start
[01:23] <dr_willis> Bunie:  you man want to look into 'screen' and 'byobu' or 'tmux' for  more power ussage of the console :)
[01:23] <Argorok> Again: I've just installed Ubuntu 11.10 x86 on my desktop and when installation finishes and I restart the computer, after the grub menu my display get "no signal" message... Looks like some resolution that the native driver doesn't support or something like that. I tryed to set nomodeset on grub instead of quiet splash and didn't help... Can anyone help me to solve it? I can't even get terminals (ctrl+alt+f1) to install nvidia drivers (But live cd boots w
[01:24] <Argorok> To ficando puto já com essa porra
[01:24] <farout542> I am wanting to remote into my Ubuntu 10.04 machine from the internet.  How do I get my router forwarded to the computer I want to remote into?
[01:25] <Pickleface_> dr_willis: im using linux 11.10 the old gnome theme, how do I set appointments and stuff on the calender ?
[01:25] <DrKojiKobashiJr> Hi
[01:25] <escott> farout542, depends on the router. usually you go to http://<IP_ADDRESS> (assuming that is the ip of your router) and forward the ssh port 22
[01:25] <alkafoo> Argorok: heh
[01:25] <dr_willis> Pickleface_:  no idea.  Im on a console/headless server 99% of the time these days.
[01:26] <aBound> Headless as in no gui? :P
[01:26] <Pickleface_> dr_willis: oh ok
[01:26] <DrKojiKobashiJr> hi
[01:26] <dr_willis> I can vnc or xdmcp. or ssh  in and get gui tools if needed.
[01:26] <Merther> Can anyone help with a problem I'm having with smbget?  Beyond -R is there a way to use smbget to download multiple files in the same location.  -R doesn't seem to be working as it's giving permissions errors.
[01:26] <dr_akira> Hi.
[01:26] <alkafoo> Argorok: your GRUB doesn't have another entry called recovery or rescue mode?
[01:27] <alkafoo> dr_akira: hi
[01:27] <farout542> escott:  I have a modem and the a wireless router.  Do I have to point the modem to the wireless router?
[01:27] <dr_akira> Hi. alkafoo
[01:27] <Argorok> alkafoo, have, but when I try to enter, it doesn't recognize my usb keyboard, then it stops at a fuchsia screen with some options and I can't navigate through them
[01:27] <dr_akira> Many people, here.
[01:27] <alkafoo> farout542: you tell the router a port to point to an IP
[01:28] <grape_> is there a puppy linux channel
[01:28] <alkafoo> Argorok: fuchsia, odd
[01:28] <dr_willis> grape_:  yes. #puppylinux perhaps.
[01:28] <alkafoo> grape_: probably, /msg alis list *puppy*
[01:28] <dr_willis> Puppy linux homepage i think mentions it
[01:28] <Argorok> alkafoo, let me see all options, I only remember the last: root console
[01:28] <alkafoo> Argorok: oh the framebuffer screen with the gray/red/blue ?
[01:29] <alkafoo> root console could be useful, if it works at all
[01:29] <Argorok> alkafoo, but I don't have a ps/2 keyboard here
[01:29] <Argorok> alkafoo, no, let me take a pic
[01:29] <alkafoo> USB should work, too, unless your hardware/BIOS is weird
[01:30] <farout542> alkafoo:  So leave modem as is and do the forwarding on my wireless router?
[01:30] <dr_willis> The Console can use 'framebuffer' support to have differnt/higher res and other modes.
[01:31] <Pickleface_> how does anyone not know..omg :P
[01:33] <Argorok> alkafoo, this keyboard works with all systems I've tryed on my desktop... But I don't know why it doesnt work at this screen... Uploading it
[01:33] <alkafoo> farout542: well there are a few scenarios
[01:33] <Merther> I'm using smbget --username=myusername --password=mypassword -R smb://server/shared/folder.  It fails with Permissions denied.  I can use the same command without -R to get files in "folder" but can't get "folder" itself.
[01:34] <farout542> alkafoo:  I was afraid of that.
[01:34] <alkafoo> farout542: you probably don't have a static IP, so you'll have to know the outside IP assigned to your LAN each time
[01:34] <alkafoo> farout542: once you know that, it might be as simple as using that IP with ssh/VNC/whatever
[01:34] <alkafoo> farout542: or you might have to tell your router to forward from a given port to a specific local (LAN only) IP
[01:35] <alkafoo> some people use dyndns/no-ip to get around the first part
[01:35] <farout542> alkafoo:  Ok I will do a little research and see.  Thanks for pointing me in right direction!!!
[01:35] <alkafoo> there's a #networking around here somewhere
[01:35] <obelus> If I'm getting errors like "SQUASHFS error: Unable to read page, block 22e77ce7, size 6a82" is this likely an error with my ISO or the USB stick I put it on?
[01:36] <farout542> good to know.  I am new to IRC.  Nice tool it is.
[01:36] <wad> join #networking
[01:36] <alkafoo> obelus: or the USB port, could be any
[01:36] <farout542> will do.  I appreciate the support.
[01:36] <Argorok> alkafoo, http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/4407/fotolg.jpg
[01:37] <alkafoo> Argorok: neat
[01:37] <alkafoo> Argorok: but your keyboard doesn't work?
[01:37] <obelus> Ugh... trying to get this installed, don't even have a bootloader atm.
[01:37] <alkafoo> obelus: try another port
[01:37] <obelus> I'll try the other port and see if it helps
[01:38] <RiXtEr-Home> Hey all, how can I get a list of all currently installed packages?
[01:38] <aBound> RiXtEr-Home, Using 11.10 or 10.04?
[01:38] <RiXtEr-Home> 10.04
[01:38] <Duker> I keep trying to undo a .tar.gz and its returning 'tar (child): file.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[01:38] <RiXtEr-Home> LTS if it matters.
[01:39] <RiXtEr-Home> Duker, tar -xzf ?
[01:39] <iceroot> RiXtEr-Home: dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[01:39] <iceroot> !clone | RiXtEr-Home
[01:39] <aBound> RiXtEr-Home, Looks like iceroot solved your problem.
[01:39] <aBound> :P
[01:40] <RiXtEr-Home> nice
[01:40] <aBound> I would of said use Synaptic package manager.
[01:40] <angela-> hi i have installed icecast2 but it must bysomware i searst int every system maps off ubuntu i cant fint it do enyone  ware i can fint it?
[01:40] <pythonirc101> how do I stop my shell to be transparent?
[01:40] <RiXtEr-Home> aBound, iceroot, Better than I originally thought, I want to push a list of packages to another (my backup) server
[01:41] <Pickleface_>  im using linux 11.10 the old gnome theme, how do I set appointments and stuff on the calender ?
[01:42] <dr_willis> does the calander even DO apointments and stuff.. :)
[01:42] <Argorok> alkafoo, no... I was trying now, changing keyboard from usb to another usb... Tryed all of them, even front panel usb... Nothing works
[01:42] <aBound> I guess I gotta wait till 12.04 LTS comes out.
[01:42] <dr_willis> angela-:  you mean you are looking for an 'icon' for it in themenus?
[01:43] <angela-> no for the file
[01:43] <alkafoo> Argorok: k, well, a live OS is just as good, really
[01:43] <dr_willis> !info icast2
[01:43] <dejavou42> hmmm. I can't get ffmpeg to encode an avi movie to an mp4... any thoughts?
[01:43] <dr_willis> !info icecast2
[01:43] <angela-> the config file off icecast
[01:43] <angela-> 2
[01:43] <obelus> Seems to be working now, already past where it was freezing before.
[01:43] <dr_willis> angela-:  look in the package manager to see what confiog files and docs/guides it installed.
[01:43] <dejavou42> I'm getting a invalid pixel aspect ratio limit is 255/255
[01:44] <angela-> ok
[01:44] <dr_willis> dejavou42:  i use winff to convert to mp4 all the time. its a front end to ffmpeg.
[01:44] <dejavou42> dr_willis. I've got it too, but the preset that I want isn't there
[01:44] <pythonirc101> how do I get this stupid transparency in my terminal to go away?
[01:44] <dr_willis> dejavou42:  there are more presets at the winff homepage/forums.
[01:45] <dr_willis> dejavou42:  the tool arista has a smiler feature set. and ability to download more presets.
[01:45] <Argorok> alkafoo, can I correct it booting into a live cd?
[01:45] <dejavou42> dr_willis: sorry not presets. MP4 isn't in the convert to menu
[01:45] <obelus> It's copying files right now, now just hoping that deleting 40cdrom doesn't cause any more errors.
[01:45] <alkafoo> Argorok: undoubtedly
[01:45] <Argorok> alkafoo, I used my entire hard disk to setup ubuntu
[01:46] <Argorok> alkafoo, well, then here we go :] Let me boot from it
[01:46] <dejavou42> ahhh just found edit --> presets
[01:46] <blackshirt> Argorok: what the problems ?
[01:46] <obelus> :\ it's telling me that the name exists on the network now :( It's only ever been this laptop's name
[01:47] <angela-> dr_willis you mene synaptic?
[01:47] <RiXtEr-Home> aBound, iceroot, Thanks to both of you!
[01:47] <Argorok> blackshirt, my ubuntu doesnt recognize my nvidia card. After grub the screen goes black and my display show "NO SIGNAL"... I can use vga=791, nosplash, nofb, nomodeset, or any combination of them, and it doesnt work
[01:47] <aBound> No problem.
[01:47] <dr_willis> angela-:  whatever package manager tools you like. Synaptic is one.
[01:47] <angela-> ok
[01:49] <Pickleface_>  im using linux 11.10 the old gnome theme, how do I set appointments and stuff on the calender ?
[01:49] <dr_willis> Argorok:  'nomodeset' is often needed. untill you get the nvidia drivers installed.
[01:49] <alkafoo> Pickleface_: in Evolution?
[01:50] <dr_willis> Argorok:  i often use 'nomodeset noquiet nosplash nofb'
[01:50] <Pickleface_> alkafoo: thats the default bar ontop that shows the time and stuff right ?
[01:50] <Argorok> dr_willis, I run into the same problem, as if I didn't changed the bootargs
[01:50] <Pickleface_> alkafoo: if so, yes
[01:50] <Argorok> alkafoo, ok, I'm running the live os
[01:50] <alkafoo> Pickleface_: no, Evolution was the default mail/calendar app, it's been swapped for Thunderbird in recent versions
[01:50] <dr_willis> Argorok:  the 'text' option should get you to a console also. where you can install the ssh server, and nvidia drivers to make trobule shooting easier.
[01:51] <alkafoo> Pickleface_: you might want to install sunbird, or install evolution again
[01:51] <blackshirt> Argorok: maybe better you using vesa drivers first, if not possible yet using nvidia driver
[01:51] <dr_willis> Argorok:  the live-cd has a menu item (hit space where you see the man=keyboard image, then under F5 or F6 i recall)
[01:52] <curran> anyone know how I can find out the chipset for my nvidia ethernet (built-in)?  Motherboard MCP61PM-GM GeForce 6150SE nForce 430, just trying to figure out the chip, but some online have realtek, while I think mine is nvidia or something...  Didn't know they did chips for networking.
[01:52] <alkafoo> curran: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[01:52] <dr_willis> curran:  lspci command also . may give a clue
[01:52] <curran> Not that important, but would like to know, so I can add a correct name w/ the MAC in my networking configuration (e.g. router, bridge, etc.)
[01:52] <alkafoo> probably just need forcedeth
[01:53] <Argorok> blackshirt, dr_willis, tryed vesa with vga=791 and other options... Nothing too... Didn't try this text option... Need to delete quiet splash to add text?
[01:53] <curran> I got it working, just wanna know the chip
[01:53] <curran> I tried lspci.
[01:53] <Argorok> Can't I install nvidia driver on host system using a live cd?
[01:53] <dr_willis> Argorok:  try nomodset noquiet nofb nosplash text
[01:53] <curran> just mentions the ethernet bridge, unless that's it, was thinking an iwlist or something command
[01:53] <Pickleface_> alkafoo: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/441/screenshotat20120103205.png/ the bar on the top
[01:53] <dr_willis> Argorok:  ive never needed to mess with vga=XXX     Im not sure that sort of option even works these days
[01:54] <kasii> hi alll
[01:54] <alkafoo> Pickleface_: what about it?
[01:54] <Pickleface_> alkafoo: how do I check if its evolution or thunderbird?..
[01:54] <kasii> hi all
[01:54] <Noobix789> hiya
[01:54] <alkafoo> vga= is for the framebuffer (during bootup)
[01:54] <dr_willis> alkafoo:  and nofb disables the framebuffer
[01:54] <alkafoo> Pickleface_: you'll only have one installed by default; dpkg -L evolution
[01:55] <curran> looks like it is using the forcedeth kernel driver.
[01:55] <alkafoo> most do
[01:55] <alkafoo> (nvidia devices)
[01:56] <curran> Is there any way to update those modules, or would you have to recompile the whole kernel?
[01:56] <hoster> ef
[01:56] <Argorok> dr_willis, tryed... Same thing
[01:56] <kasii> sorry friend about  a week i tried to run partial upgrade  to my ubuntu 11.10 oneric oncelot and fail to finish the upgrade and now the problem is my  laptop fails to shut down safely
[01:57] <kasii> sorry friend about  a week i tried to run partial upgrade  to my ubuntu 11.10 oneric oncelot and fail to finish the upgrade and now the problem is my  laptop fails to shut down safely
[01:57] <dr_willis> Argorok:  this isent one of those weird new laptops that have 2 video chipsets in them?
[01:57] <alkafoo> curran: in Ubuntu you would typically update the kernel image only; what makes you think you need to
[01:57] <kasii> sorry friend about  a week i tried to run partial upgrade  to my ubuntu 11.10 oneric oncelot and fail to finish the upgrade and now the problem is my  laptop fails to shut down safely
[01:57] <Argorok> dr_willis, no, its a little old desktop with only offboard vga
[01:57] <alkafoo> kasii: less frequently please
[01:57] <dr_willis> Argorok:  what chipset exactly?
[01:57] <kasii> sorry friend about  a week i tried to run partial upgrade  to my ubuntu 11.10 oneric oncelot and fail to finish the upgrade and now the problem is my  laptop fails to shut down safely
[01:58] <kasii> yes alkafoo
[01:58] <obelus> !repeat | kasii
[01:58] <Argorok> dr_willis, don't remember, let me see on the motherboard datasheet
[01:58] <Brewster> you know when you install something and sometimes a box pops up that asks for additional configuration? How do I get that back?
[01:58] <curran> I don't need to, was just thinking if nvidia has updated drivers for their chipset, might get better bandwidth, less packet loss or whatever, you know...  I like to update.
[01:58] <alkafoo> Argorok: you should be able to tell your install to use whatever setup the working live OS is using for starters
[01:58] <alkafoo> curran: ah, well
[01:59] <Argorok> dr_willis, Intel 945 Express, Intel ICH7
[01:59] <alkafoo> curran: I believe you will get update notices by default
[01:59] <Argorok> alkafoo, but how? The live os boots normal, without any warnings or errors
[02:00] <obelus> !pm > kasii
[02:00] <kasii> sorry friend about  a week i tried to run partial upgrade  to my ubuntu 11.10 oneric oncelot and fail to finish the upgrade and now the problem is my  laptop fails to shut down safely
[02:00] <alkafoo> Argorok: compare the GRUB configs for starters, then the kernel configs
[02:01] <alkafoo> kasii: safely?
[02:01] <Argorok> alkafoo, where is it? I've set the live os on my pen
[02:01] <waterDrop> do someone know about where could i found command prompt for kernel ubuntu 11
[02:01] <waterDrop> web address
[02:01] <waterDrop> recommend me some
[02:02] <alkafoo> Argorok: /boot/grub/grub.cfg probably
[02:02] <kasii> yes  now am switch  through the power button
[02:02] <alkafoo> waterDrop: find what now?
[02:02] <Argorok> alkafoo, only have loopback.cfg
[02:02] <alkafoo> kasii: ah
[02:02] <waterDrop> command list
[02:02] <gogeta> waterDrop: do you mean alt cli just open a term
[02:02] <alkafoo> kasii: you might be missing some power management packages
[02:02] <waterDrop> who knows? please
[02:03] <gogeta> waterDrop: you whant a basic command line list
[02:03] <waterDrop> not all, just complete cmd that often uses
[02:03] <waterDrop> recommended website please
[02:03] <waterDrop> some address
[02:03] <gogeta> waterDrop: http://ss64.com/bash/
[02:04] <waterDrop> i'll try it
[02:04] <waterDrop> thx
[02:04] <waterDrop> someone else, wanna recommend me another address, please? :)
[02:04] <gogeta> waterDrop: but relly you only will use a few of them unless you relly need to truble shoot something
[02:04] <nightcracker__> can someone help me with some wine error?
[02:05] <kasii> alkafoo am waiting for ya answer
[02:05] <blackshirt> nightcracker__: just pastebin your error output ?
[02:05] <nightcracker__> http://nclabs.org/errors.log
[02:05] <curran> haha, update notices, I like that.
[02:05] <nightcracker__> I'm (trying to) use xvfb
[02:05] <gogeta> waterDrop: if any
[02:05] <Argorok> alkafoo, cant I install drivers on my OS through the live OS? Or can I install nvidia drivers together to the system when I do a system install? (Its a fresh installation, I can do another)
[02:06] <alkafoo> Argorok: you can, yes
[02:06] <waterDrop> gogeta: ok i already open that address, hmm, it's enough for now, thanks gogeta
[02:06] <Argorok> alkafoo, how? I just need to set up the nvidia driver
[02:06] <alkafoo> Argorok: did you say the display was getting no signal when X was supposed to have started, or before then?
[02:06] <nightcracker__> blackshirt: basically, I'm trying to run an executable that requires graphics and sound output (no way to disable it) on a server
[02:07] <nightcracker__> blackshirt: so I've set up xvfb, and ALSA, but I think I did something wrong
[02:07] <Argorok> alkafoo, dunno... After the choice on grub, It goes to black screen with no signal
[02:07] <gogeta> Argorok: you can drop to cli mode using failsafe and install them by hand that way
[02:07] <dr_willis> Argorok:  you are trying to install teh nvidia drivers when you just stated you had an intel chipset?
[02:07] <waterDrop> actually i use, ubuntu 11, and im a newbie, i'll ask later...
[02:07] <gogeta> Argorok: thers also ways of remastering the iso to include em
[02:07] <dr_willis> Argorok          | dr_willis, Intel 945 Express, Intel ICH7
[02:08] <dr_willis> thats definatly not a nvidia gpu.
[02:08] <oneliner> does anyone if there have been any updates to the ethernet issues with the realtek driver? latest / best workaround was the backport but it still gives quite spotty connectivity (random lags and disconnects along with dead transfers)
[02:08] <Argorok> dr_willis, this chipset doesn't have onboard vga
[02:08] <gogeta> Argorok: oyea thats intel and a 845 will work out of the box
[02:08] <hiexpo> whats channel for freenode chat help
[02:08] <oneliner> know* somewhere in there
[02:08] <gogeta> 945
[02:08] <Argorok> dr_willis, you asked my chipset, not my vga
[02:08] <dr_willis> Argorok:  so you have BOTH then?
[02:08] <dr_willis> onboard intel, and nvidia pci(e)
[02:08] <gogeta> Argorok: 945 extress is onbord vga
[02:09] <Argorok> dr_willis, my mobo DONT have onboard vga, DONT have onboard gpu, this chipset DONT HAVE things about graphs
[02:09] <dr_willis> Argorok:  so what nvidia card do you have?
[02:09] <Argorok> dr_willis, then come here and show me the vga DB15 on back panel ¬¬
[02:09] <gogeta> Argorok: umm
[02:09] <nightcracker__> blackshirt: any idea?
[02:10] <gogeta> Argorok: 945 might be the sound bord as well
[02:10] <Argorok> alkafoo, let me see how to do it... cli/failsafe option... Never did (I think)
[02:10] <Argorok> gogeta, the north and south chipsets are intel
[02:10] <gogeta> Argorok: in failsafe it will come up with a menu slect command line
[02:11] <gogeta> Argorok: you might need to change the runlevel simply by passing init 3
[02:11] <osmodivs> After downloading the nVidia drivers from synaptic, my monitor resolution is messed up: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/23841 And I can't get it back to normal (1440x900) How can I fix this?
[02:11] <kasii> hey any body to help me
[02:11] <gogeta> Argorok: but you should be alble to install the drivers by hand
[02:12] <gogeta> Argorok: the gui needs to be down anyways for it to work
[02:13] <Argorok> osmodivs, tryed xorgconf?
[02:13] <Argorok> gogeta, let me try init 3
[02:13] <gogeta> Argorok: you need to go into failsafe cli first so x does not try and start and muck stuff up
[02:14] <osmodivs> Argorok: After downloading the drivers, I did this: sudo nvidia-xconfig and then rebooted, and then messed up
[02:14] <gogeta> Argorok: then login and sudo init 3
[02:14] <Xfce-user> Hey guys
[02:14] <Xfce-user> I am back
[02:14] <gogeta> Argorok: at that point you should be able to install the nivida run file
[02:14] <Xfce-user> I was not able to fix it
[02:15] <gogeta> Argorok: you also will need to blacklist the nevu driver
[02:15] <Xfce-user> I still have trouble trying to load lightDM
[02:15] <gogeta> Argorok: i know a royel pain in the but
[02:15] <Xfce-user> I tried to install ubuntu-desktop or gnome
[02:15] <Xfce-user> but, I do not know how to connect to the internet in recovery mode
[02:15] <Argorok> gogeta, how to get into failsafe?
[02:16] <gogeta> Argorok: do you still have a ui
[02:16] <gogeta> Argorok: hears a easy way
[02:16] <angela-> dr_willis i have fount the map in the system of ubuntu the map etc he is in it but thre are no config file in to
[02:16] <gogeta> Argorok: http://mygeekopinions.blogspot.com/2011/06/how-to-install-nvidia-2750907-driver-in.html
[02:17] <Argorok> (grub recovery option boots into this fuchsia screen http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/4407/fotolg.jpg and I cant get my usb keyboard work :/)
[02:17] <angela-> i ment icecast2
[02:17] <gogeta> Argorok: that ppa has the latest bult and ready to go
[02:17] <Xfce-user> hi dr_willis and braiam
[02:18] <Xfce-user> Guys. I need help with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1903963
[02:18] <Xfce-user> I removed gnome after installing xubuntu-desktop
[02:18] <Argorok> gogeta, how to get the console to type?
[02:18] <Xfce-user> and now I can't login (lightdm dosn't load)
[02:18] <alkafoo> Xfce-user: is it installed? dpkg -L lightdm
[02:19] <Xfce-user> Since I lost all GUI. I am trying to fix using the virutal console
[02:19] <Xfce-user> when I try to use apt, it shows the following message:
[02:19] <jacob_> do play dvd movies in her
[02:19] <x3k4p> error: alternative path /lib/plymouth/themes/MIBOxygen/MIBOxygen.plymouth doesn't exist.
[02:19] <x3k4p>  how to fix this error
[02:19] <Ben64> Xfce-user: why did you do all that?
[02:19] <alkafoo> jacob_: ?
[02:19] <Xfce-user> sudo: can't open /var/lib/sudo/my-username/consoloe
[02:20] <osmodivs> How can I get my screen monitor resolution back to normal? nVidia-settings only gives me 2 choices, and none of them are ideal for my 1440x900 resolution monitor http://www.pasteall.org/pic/23841
[02:20] <jacob_> do u hack on her
[02:20] <angela-> iff i typer in the termenal sudo gedit /ect/default/icecast2  it whil open the config file but i cant save it i have than a error
[02:20] <Xfce-user> read only filesystem
[02:20] <Xfce-user> W: not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[02:21] <jacob_> deo u play dvd movies onher
[02:21] <Ben64> Xfce-user: read only filesystem means it is mounted read only
[02:21] <Xfce-user> Ben64:  I tried to switch to Xfce since my machine was becoming slower.
[02:21] <x3k4p> error: alternative path /lib/plymouth/themes/MIBOxygen/MIBOxygen.plymouth doesn't exist.
  how to fix this error
[02:21] <Morgan> Any one know of a good site or book to learn the command line?
[02:21] <Ben64> becoming slower? Did you downgrade it?
[02:21] <Argorok> gogeta, ?
[02:22] <_jason> !cli | Morgan
[02:22] <Xfce-user> Hi Ben64. I also tried to choose "remount /read/write and mount all other filesystem" in recovery mode.
[02:22] <bencc> can I use upstart to start a python server as a daemon?
[02:22] <bencc> I want to run rtmplite http://code.google.com/p/rtmplite/
[02:22] <Xfce-user> But, it became crazy and I had to restart.
[02:22] <alkafoo> Argorok: you can use the live OS if you have to
[02:22] <Ben64> Xfce-user: to do anything to the system you will have to mount it rw
[02:23] <alkafoo> Argorok: getting no signal after GRUB and not being able to use your keyboard in that framebuffer window are two separate issues, though
[02:23] <x3k4p> i need answer
[02:23] <Xfce-user> I just borrowed another laptop from my sibling
[02:23] <alkafoo> x3k4p: 42
[02:23] <Xfce-user> now, I can work on the laptop while receiving suggestions and help ;-)
[02:23] <x3k4p> 42??/
[02:24] <Argorok> alkafoo, my live os is up and running... How can I isntall the driver on the host system instead of the "live system"?
[02:24] <Xfce-user> ok. I am in Recovery Menu (limited read-only menu)
[02:24] <Xfce-user> and I just chose "remount Remount/read/write and mount all other filesystems"
[02:25] <x3k4p> error: alternative path /lib/plymouth/themes/MIBOxygen/MIBOxygen.plymouth doesn't exist.
  how to fix this error
[02:25] <alkafoo> Argorok: does the command 'which pastebinit' return a /bin/ path ?
[02:25] <Xfce-user> It says: [756/339379] Ext4-fs (sda1): remounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[02:26] <Ben64> Xfce-user: ok..
[02:27] <Xfce-user> and... then, I am lost. The _ is blinking normally like in any console.
[02:27] <Argorok> alkafoo, which pastebinit did nothing
[02:27] <defaultuser> Hi all.  new ubuntu user trying to get jdk and jre set up.  They came in RPM packages, but my 10.04 netbook install doesnt seem to have RPM package manager.  I tried to download and compile that, but terminal tells me i don't have a compatible c compiler.  So I try to install that, and it seems like nothing at all happens.  Anyone want to hold my hand as I try to do this?
[02:27] <Xfce-user> but, then, how do I return to root..
[02:27] <Xfce-user> I mean, whatever I type... , it dosn't do anything
[02:28] <x3k4p> error: alternative path /lib/plymouth/themes/MIBOxygen/MIBOxygen.plymouth doesn't exist.  how to fix this error ???
[02:28] <alkafoo> Argorok: okay, run this: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[02:28] <alkafoo> Argorok: then give me the link it spits out
[02:28] <Ben64> Xfce-user: what if you hit CTRL+ALT+F2
[02:28] <Xfce-user> If I press "Ctrl + Alt + Delte" then it takes me to Recover Menu again.. but, after a while it restarts.
[02:28] <Xfce-user> I think, i tried that. Let me see.
[02:29] <Xfce-user> ok
[02:29] <Xfce-user> The screen is dark. And the " _ " is blinking.
[02:29] <Argorok> alkafoo, unable to locate package pastebinit
[02:29] <Ben64> Xfce-user: can you get to a console at all in any mode
[02:29] <Xfce-user> But, it dosn't say anything like ~#
[02:30] <Xfce-user> I can get it to the console if I choose "root" in the Recovery Menu
[02:30] <Ben64> then do that
[02:30] <Argorok> alkafoo, (I'm running the live system, not the installed one... The live cd booted to the ram, not from the disk)
[02:30] <Xfce-user> ok.
[02:31] <kcw45> hey guys and gals: the ubuntu repos don't have 64bit flash hidden away somewhere do they?  flashplugin-installer brings in a lot of 32-bit libraries
[02:31] <alkafoo> Argorok: right, should still work
[02:31] <Ben64> kcw45: you can get 64 bit flash from adobe
[02:31] <Xfce-user> Choosing "root   Drop to root shell prompt"
[02:31] <Xfce-user> now I am in a console
[02:31] <kcw45> Ben64, good deal.  was just checking if it was in repos, thanks!
[02:31] <Xfce-user> root@computer
[02:31] <alkafoo> Argorok: can you ping -c 3 www.yahoo.com ?
[02:31] <Argorok> alkafoo, apt-cache search pastebin returned nothing too
[02:32] <bigtom21485> I'm encoding mp3's with rhythmbox.  in editing my "mp3" profile, what do i change?  it encoded at 48kbps, i want 128kbps
[02:32] <Ben64> Xfce-user: pastebin the output of "mount"
[02:32] <Xfce-user> ok
[02:32] <Argorok> alkafoo, yes
[02:32] <alkafoo> bigtom21485: what all does it show?
[02:33] <bigtom21485> gstreamer pipeline: audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lamemp3enc name=enc target=0 quality=6 ! xingmux ! id3v2mux
[02:33] <alkafoo> Argorok: okay, well, maybe the image you installed with is just bonkers
[02:33] <alkafoo> Argorok: that would be nice in a way, as a reinstall with a non-bonkers image might not yield these problems you're having
[02:33] <alkafoo> Argorok: how'd you put it onto the USB?
[02:33] <Argorok> alkafoo, bonkers?
[02:33] <alkafoo> Argorok: not sane
[02:33] <exrouter> is there NLB feature available in eucalyptus ec2 private cloud.
[02:33] <Argorok> alkafoo, usb-pendrive-linux... something like that... as shows in the ubuntu tutorial
[02:33] <urlin2u> defaultuser, you  want the tar.gz, these packages are not in oneiric your running lucid, have you checked if the are in software sources.
[02:34] <bigtom21485> alkafoo: I guess i change the "quality" but is it a linear value? like its 6 for 48 kbps, so it'd be like 18 for 128kbps, right?
[02:34] <Xfce-user> it will take a while since I have to type it manually.
[02:34] <alkafoo> Argorok: ah, that was wrong =)
[02:34] <alkafoo> Argorok: what OS do you have to make a new USB image?
[02:34] <bigtom21485> alkafoo: *16?
[02:34] <Ben64> Xfce-user: you can skip the ones that start with "none"
[02:34] <Matt040804> Can I configure the amount of time the those "growl-like notifications" stay on screen?
[02:34] <Argorok> alkafoo, I used the ubuntu-11.10-x86
[02:34] <bigtom21485> matt040804: that would be cool to change that :-)
[02:35] <Argorok> From ubuntu site
[02:35] <alkafoo> bigtom21485: it'd probably be 128, but it depends on what rhythmbox is using...
[02:35] <Matt040804> bigtom21485: so...is that a "no"
[02:35] <alkafoo> (for MP3 encoding, typically you'd use lame)
[02:35] <alkafoo> Argorok: okay, did you check the md5 sum?
[02:35] <bigtom21485> matt040804: i don't know how to change it, i was just saying it would be cool to know how to change it bc i have no idea
[02:35] <alkafoo> Matt040804: you can configure anything
[02:36] <pav5088> Embarrassing question : I was given a password for an ssh service which was swallowed by gnome-keyring, but I forgot the original password.  How can I get it back in cleartext?  I've tried seahorse, but it doesn't seem to show the password I'm interested in (which is an ssh password I use from a terminal).
[02:36] <Matt040804> alkafoo: how do I configure those notifications? they stay on screen way too long for my liking
[02:36] <exrouter> is there NLB feature available in eucalyptus ec2 private cloud.
[02:36] <Argorok> alkafoo, http://pastebin.com/JnfbSYqx I installed sshd on the desktop live system, and now im connected to it, look the fdisk -l that youve asked
[02:36] <Argorok> alkafoo, yes, checked the md5
[02:36] <jacob_> i need help
[02:37] <docmur> http://pastebin.com/J8VBdgqZ  That is code on how I display the SSL certifcates on every other Linux distro in C, For some reaon in Ubuntu I get No Certificates returned, even though I can fully use the SSL socket, Ubuntu as the same certifactes my gentoo box does and it workes exactly like should, does anyone know why this wouldn't work
[02:38] <alkafoo> Argorok: I'd try reinstalling with a USB imaged by unetbootin instead of whatever you used earlier
[02:39] <station> hello!
[02:39] <bluezone> AMD has some issues supporting their cards on linux...
[02:39] <Xfce-user> OK. I am back
[02:39] <Xfce-user> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/792337/
[02:40] <Argorok> alkafoo, ok, let me try
[02:40] <Xfce-user> Ben64: haha. I did not read your next message ><: too  late! I included everything.
[02:40] <exrouter> i need help :is there NLB feature available in eucalyptus ec2 private cloud.
[02:40] <acidfrost> bluezone, ATI may be owned by AMD but AMD refers to processors,  so lets not confuse new users
[02:40] <Ben64> Xfce-user: it looks like it is mounted rw, try doing "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[02:41] <Xfce-user> ok.
[02:42] <Xfce-user> It says: W: not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[02:42] <pooltable> old hard drive windows 98 one how do i boot into it via usb I can see the files but have no idea what to keep my dad very old computer
[02:42] <Xfce-user> E:Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/
[02:42] <alkafoo> station: hi
[02:42] <alkafoo> bluezone: quite a statement...
[02:43] <Xfce-user> "E: The package list or status file could not be parsed or opened"
[02:43] <alkafoo> pooltable: boot into it?
[02:43] <Ben64> Xfce-user: Then it is time to reinstall, but this time don't break it.
[02:43] <alkafoo> pooltable: why not just copy the files elsewhere
[02:43] <Ben64> Xfce-user: alternatively, your hard drive could be failing
[02:43] <Xfce-user> Ohh noooo
[02:43] <bluezone> alkafoo: sure but it's true
[02:43] <Xfce-user> Oh.
[02:43] <alkafoo> bluezone: it is, but it's also true about nvidia =P
[02:43] <Xfce-user> By the way.
[02:44] <alkafoo> and since that's ati's main competition, the statement is pointless
[02:44] <bluezone> hmm i think they're a bit better
[02:44] <pooltable> alkfoo i can do that but only want to copy what i need not the os
[02:44] <alkafoo> it means a lot coming from you =P
[02:44] <alkafoo> pooltable: well that's a slippery slope
[02:44] <bluezone> thanks :)
[02:44] <Xfce-user> I had some weird experience after "playing around' the recovering menu. When I load the Xubuntu-desktop.. it says "Looking to Configure network..."
[02:44] <alkafoo> pooltable: you better back it all up, then have your dad pick out what he is sure he wants
[02:44] <alkafoo> pooltable: _then_ maybe save space by deleting what he didn't choose
[02:45] <alkafoo> I've seen personal data all in C:\ and other OS areas on Windows boxes
[02:45] <Xfce-user> and then it shows: "Warning unattended-upgrade in progress during shutdown, sleeping for 5s"
[02:45] <alkafoo> since they run as root all the time, they can put things anywhere
[02:45] <Xfce-user> and that message keeps repeating in loops
[02:45] <aBound> Hey all I'm using 10.04 LTS and I installed the nVidia driver yet it never reconfigured my resolution.
[02:46] <alkafoo> aBound: see what nvidia-settings says about it
[02:46] <pooltable> alkfoo how do i copy just copy it all like copy paste?
[02:46] <jacob_> hello
[02:46] <alkafoo> pooltable: cp -r /mnt/point/ some/otherplace/
[02:46] <aBound> alkafoo, From the terminal I assume.
[02:46] <jacob_> i need help
[02:46] <alkafoo> pooltable: or (better) rsync -av /mnt/point/ some/otherplace/backup
[02:47] <jacob_> ping
[02:47] <alkafoo> jacob_: pong?
[02:47] <pooltable> alkfoo sorry this is on a windows coputer running 7
[02:47] <alkafoo> aBound: what about assuming?
[02:47] <alkafoo> aBound: oh
[02:47] <alkafoo> aBound: yes or ALT+F2
[02:47] <alkafoo> aBound: or possibly gksu nvidia-settings
[02:48] <alkafoo> pooltable: Windows has awful copying utils... ask ##windows about it if you want
[02:48] <jacob_> do u hacok on this
[02:48] <jacob_> hack
[02:48] <alkafoo> xcopy, robocopy, bizarre useless apps
[02:48] <alkafoo> jacob_: sure
[02:48] <mneptok> jacob_: do you have a support question?
[02:48] <alkafoo> pooltable: you can't hook the drive up to a Linuxy OS?
[02:48] <aeon-ltd> LOLOLOLOLOL
[02:48] <aBound> It says: You do not appear to be using the Nvidia X Driver crazy as crap.
[02:48] <jacob_> ya do u play dvd moviws on her
[02:48] <aeon-ltd> jacob_: you trolling?
[02:49] <alkafoo> aBound: so maybe you aren't
[02:49] <Ben64> aBound: you need to reboot after getting the nvidia driver
[02:49] <aBound> alkafoo, I just installed it.
[02:49] <alkafoo> jacob_: Ubuntu can play DVD movies, if that's what you're asking
[02:49] <aBound> :P
[02:49] <aBound> Ben64, I did reboot.
[02:49] <aBound> :p
[02:49] <Xfce-user> Ben64: ok. I will restart the OS. :)
[02:49] <alkafoo> aBound: installed how?
[02:49] <jacob_> ya
[02:49] <Xfce-user> Say
[02:49] <pooltable> alkfoo yes but do not have the room
[02:49] <Ben64> Xfce-user: that wasn't to you : /
[02:49] <Xfce-user> how do I copy my files to an external drive in recovery mode?
[02:49] <aBound> alkafoo, If you'd like a screenshot I can provide it.
[02:49] <alkafoo> pooltable: you can copy the files over the network to any computer...
[02:50] <aBound> I installed it using this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-current-modaliases nvidia-settings
[02:50] <Ben64> Xfce-user: rsync works great
[02:50] <alkafoo> pooltable: the Windows way to copy things is to just select all and click-and-drag
[02:50] <pooltable> alkfoo how do i do that ?
[02:50] <Ben64> aBound: why didn't you go through the Hardware Drivers interface?
[02:50] <Xfce-user> how do I mount an external drive?
[02:50] <Xfce-user> Man.. I am so used to the GUI.. ><:
[02:50] <Xfce-user> I feel my limitations now.
[02:50] <aBound> Ben64, Because those are new drivers.
[02:50] <jacob_> dos ubuntu hackin tolls
[02:50] <Argorok> alkafoo, installing
[02:51] <Ben64> Xfce-user: plug in, use "dmesg" to find the device, and then "mount -t <filesystem> <device> <mountpoint>"
[02:51] <alkafoo> pooltable: mmm, it's kind of involved actually =) it would be simple if you booted your Windows 7 box (with the space?) from a live CD/USB/DVD
[02:51] <aBound> I can always uninstall it.
[02:51] <Ben64> aBound: those are the same that are in Hardware Drivers
[02:51] <alkafoo> pooltable: rsync the files from the old drive to the other, then reboot out of the live OS
[02:51] <alkafoo> Argorok: good luck
[02:51] <mneptok> jacob_: if you need help, ask a technical support question. otherwise, please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:51] <jacob_> is a good hacking tool
[02:51] <alkafoo> jacob_: it has as many available as any other OS
[02:52] <aBound> About to find out.
[02:52] <Xfce-user> ok. i will try that
[02:52] <jacob_> can u hack me
[02:52] <mneptok> !offtopic | jacob_
[02:52] <alkafoo> jacob_: I could crack you =)
[02:52] <mneptok> alkafoo: please do not encourage this.
[02:52] <jacob_> good crack pros to
[02:53] <aBound> brb
[02:53] <pooltable> alkfoo thanks for the help
[02:53] <Ben64> jacob_: this is not the channel for this type of conversation, take it elsewhere please
[02:56] <Xfce-user> Hi ben64: What do I put after "mount -t" ?
[02:56] <Ben64> Xfce-user: the filesystem
[02:57] <Xfce-user> dmesg shows "sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk.: "   "usb 7-2: new full speed USB device number 2 using uhci_hcd
[02:57] <Xfce-user> I mean. Ho do I know the filesystem?
[02:57] <rsvc> who use pidgim?
[02:58] <Ben64> Xfce-user: you likely formatted it, you should know : /
[02:58] <kcw45> Xfce-user, it might be vfat if it's a usb thumb drive; could be ext2, ext3, ext4 though
[02:58] <Xfce-user> it should be fat. I never formatted it.
[02:58] <Xfce-user> It is a external hard drive bourght from the store. I never formated it
[02:58] <Xfce-user> from WD
[02:59] <lalagirl> Hi everyone.
[02:59] <kcw45> maybe try ntfs-3g then
[02:59] <alkafoo> Xfce-user: ntfs-3g /dev/whatever /mnt/point
[03:00] <alkafoo> other filesystems rarely need type specified
[03:00] <alkafoo> lalagirl: hi
[03:00] <alkafoo> rsvc: pidgin?  I do, for IMing, rarely
[03:01] <Xfce-user> lol. This is weird. I just pluuged the External drive to my siblings laptop that is working. And it says in properties that it is using "msdos" as filesystem
[03:01] <Ben64> is it linux?
[03:02] <rsvc> alkafoo: Hi, I'm connected to IRC and would like to connect on msn while
[03:02] <Xfce-user> Disk utility says "Partition type W95 FAT32 (LBA)" and "Partition flags: FAT (32-bit version)
[03:03] <Ben64> then put "vfat" for filesystem
[03:03] <rsvc> I'm connected to IRC and would like to simultaneously connect to msn
[03:04] <Xfce-user> so, is it "mount -t fat32 /dev/sdb /mnt/mounted ?
[03:04] <Xfce-user> oh
[03:04] <Xfce-user> vfat
[03:04] <Xfce-user> all right
[03:04] <Xfce-user> thanks. I will try
[03:05] <alkafoo> msdos is a common partition type, too, used by all sorts of _filesystems_
[03:06] <Ben64> Xfce-user: probably sdb1 rather than sdb
[03:06] <alkafoo> rsvc: ok?
[03:06] <daev> can anyone guess why m-a isnt combiling the drivers properly? http://pastebin.com/ikydug2f
[03:06] <Xfce-user> oh. shoot..
[03:06] <Xfce-user> it says:
[03:06] <Xfce-user> "sudo" Can
[03:07] <Xfce-user> oops: retyping
[03:07] <Xfce-user> "Sudo Can't open /var/lib/sudo/enoch/console: Read-only file system
[03:07] <Xfce-user> "mount: mount point /mnt/mounted does not exist
[03:08] <Xfce-user> :(
[03:08] <kcw45> Xfce-user, don't know about the first part of that error, but for the second part, make the directory first "sudo mkdir /mnt/mounted"
[03:08] <BangBusRUs> Hi I need some help with my newly installed Ubuntu 11.10, I want to format Ext4 partitions to NTFS?
[03:08] <alkafoo> Xfce-user: it's going to be NTFS anyways, or nothing at all
[03:09] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: why's that
[03:09] <BangBusRUs> I want to store my media files on the NTFS partitions and want to be able to access them with Windows...
[03:09] <Xfce-user> I checked the filesystem using Disk Utilities in Ubuntu (from other laptop), it mentions FAT32. :)
[03:10] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: so you have some partitions you set up only for storing media?
[03:10] <BangBusRUs> Yes
[03:10] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: ah
[03:10] <Xfce-user> How do I make the filesystem to be writable
[03:10] <BangBusRUs> they are Ext4
[03:10] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: you can use gparted if you like
[03:10] <BangBusRUs> ok cool thanks, oh does it come preinstalled with ubuntu???????
[03:11] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: I think it comes on the install media, and for installs you'd have to install it
[03:11] <LinuxRules> preinstalled lmao
[03:11] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: ?
[03:11] <BangBusRUs> ok
[03:11] <BangBusRUs> I will
[03:11] <broncy> having some playstation media server woes. can anyone help? Running x64 Ubuntu 11.1
[03:11] <DFan247> how do you change a media handler?
[03:11] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: it's a little less dangerous than using the command way if you're not familiar with them
[03:11] <alkafoo> using gparted, that is
[03:11] <LinuxRules> preinstalle with the better OS than windows which is well marketed?
[03:11] <kcw45> broncy, have you installed ffmpeg?  been a while since i ran ps3mediaserver, but that solved most my problems
[03:12] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: that question is pretty hard to parse
[03:12] <WebGoddess008> hello
[03:12] <alkafoo> hi
[03:12] <LinuxRules> do any boxes come pre-installed with Linux?
[03:12] <broncy> @kcw45 yeah i've got ffmpeg up to date
[03:12] <BangBusRUs> One more thing while the updates are being downloaded and installed, How do I access the Ext4 partitions I named one as /Media and the other as /Backpus?
[03:12] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: yes of course
[03:12] <Xfce-user> Are we on a dead-end? :(
[03:12] <WebGoddess008> i've completely switched from windows 7 to ubuntu now :)
[03:12] <LinuxRules> alkafoo you asked me you caould decipher what I said
[03:13] <kcw45> broncy, i probably cannot help much then, but what are your woes?
[03:13] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: they should be available from the file manager, nautilus
[03:13] <broncy> @kcw45 I have the most updated version of every decoder and have a specific error to trace back
[03:13] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: yes?
[03:13] <LinuxRules> just like I cant spell :) couldnt*
[03:13] <BangBusRUs> I'm new to Linux...
[03:13] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: on the left there should be an icon like a folder
[03:13] <broncy> all streaming is choppy and I'm certain it's a decoding issue rather than a network issue
[03:13] <BangBusRUs> But I don't see them?
[03:13] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: otherwise hit the top left circular ubuntu logo and type 'nautilus'
[03:14] <WebGoddess008> other than running an Xp instance in virtualbox for photoshop ... and using crossover for SQLyog
[03:14] <LinuxRules> alkafoo I know some lap tps and boxes come preinstalled just not enough!
[03:14] <Xfce-user> LinuxRules: You should check out http://www.system76.com/index.php/
[03:14] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: try sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[03:14] <pythonirc101> Is anyone using virtualbox ubuntu guest on windows here? I'm having trouble with 3d opengl speed -- any hints on how to debug the problem?
[03:14] <BangBusRUs> ok
[03:14] <LinuxRules> xfce-user why?
[03:14] <alkafoo> pythonirc101: the problem is it's virtualized
[03:15] <Xfce-user> I just read the part where you said: "do any boxes come pre-installed with Linux?"
[03:15] <pythonirc101> alkafoo: so its vbox problem?
[03:15] <alkafoo> pythonirc101: no
[03:15] <Xfce-user> System76 sells computers with Ubuntu Linux pre-instaled
[03:15] <pythonirc101> then how do we fix it?
[03:15] <alkafoo> pythonirc101: you don't
[03:15] <LinuxRules> ah Ic xfce-user :)
[03:15] <alkafoo> pythonirc101: hardware acceleration requires direct access to hardware to work optimally
[03:16] <alkafoo> pythonirc101: virtualized software doesn't typically have that access
[03:16] <pythonirc101> alkafoo: vbox says it supports 3d acceleration
[03:16] <LinuxRules> << Is drunk > 2&1> /dev/null
[03:16] <alkafoo> pythonirc101: no it doesn't
[03:16] <alkafoo> pythonirc101: it says it has an experimental feature with '3d' in its name
[03:16] <LinuxRules> see well drunk to many >
[03:16] <WebGoddess008> i have a few questions for those who aren't brand new to ubuntu ... any easy way to make the main desktop font smaller? it is too big on my laptop...also whenever i open a file in gedit then it opens a blank document for some unknown reason
[03:17] <WebGoddess008> i want to learn gvim but i just have work to do so i need to wait until that work is done to figure it out
[03:17] <LinuxRules> vim sucks
[03:18] <LinuxRules> Ive always used nano because its quicker
[03:18] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: but it isn't quicker =P
[03:18] <Xfce-user> LinuxRules: ZaReason, Inc. Also sells computers with Linux: zareason.com
[03:18] <alkafoo> it just takes less learning, because it does less
[03:18] <aBound> Looks like it's installing the incorrect nVidia driver blah.
[03:18] <alkafoo> aBound: it what?
[03:18] <laurus> Has anyone here had trouble using Gajim for voice calls through XMPP?
[03:18] <BangBusRUs> Okay I see them now, but is there a way to reformat the partitions and format them again to something windows wont have a hard time reading?
[03:19] <LinuxRules> alkafoo it is lot less key strokes to open modify and save a file
[03:19] <aBound> alkafoo, 10.04 LTS seems like it installed the wrong driver for my GPU.
[03:19] <WebGoddess008> alkafoo, google didn't help, i think it is because i am using dolphin perhaps to open files to edit?
[03:19] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: it isn't, actually
[03:19] <LinuxRules> what nano file
[03:19] <WebGoddess008> every time i open a file in gedit from dolphin it opens a brand new blank document as well
[03:19] <alkafoo> WebGoddess008: did you see that thread on ubuntuforums that said solved?
[03:19] <LinuxRules> modify ctrl+x save
[03:19] <alkafoo> WebGoddess008: why're you using dolphin
[03:19] <LinuxRules> vi file
[03:20] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: the ways you can modify files in Vim are what save you time, the opening and saving/exiting actions use about the same amount of key strokes
[03:20] <LinuxRules> press inserrt type modification press esc press is it shift? then type :qw!
[03:20] <BangBusRUs> alkafoo : Okay so I see them now, so now is there anyway to reformat the partitions and reformat them to something windows wont have a hard time reading data off of?
[03:21] <WebGoddess008> what's wrong with dolphin?
[03:21] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: if you start with press insert, you're already doing it wrong =)
[03:21] <ranu> LinuxRules: How many times do you have to hit the arrow keys, or the backspace key to make your changes in pico vs vim?
[03:21] <alkafoo> WebGoddess008: nothing, it's just odd to use KDE's file manager with GNOME
[03:21] <urlin2u> WebGoddess008, what desktop you running?
[03:22] <LinuxRules> I usually only have to make corrections so a line or 2 mainly but vim takes more work
[03:22] <BangBusRUs> BRBgota restart my system...
[03:22] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: it doesn't... if you learn to use it as intended
[03:22] <alkafoo> not everyone feels the time spent doing so is worth it, but that's another matter
[03:22] <LinuxRules> alkafoo I never work with guis either
[03:23] <alkafoo> who's talking about GUIs
[03:23] <LinuxRules> apart from desktop
[03:23] <WebGoddess008> i'm running unity, was going to try out kubuntu but the tutorial to install both unity and kde together didn't work
[03:23] <WebGoddess008> this is my main computer so i don't want to experiment around too much with it
[03:23] <LinuxRules> alkafoo you were
[03:24] <alkafoo> WebGoddess008: do you actually prefer dolphin over nautilus?
[03:24] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: nope...
[03:24] <ranu> LinuxRules: You're missing a semicolon on line 100, you open the file, and type this: 100GA;[escape]:wq
[03:24] <WebGoddess008> yeah i like dolphin better
[03:24] <grape_> im using a puppy linux based on ubuntu which is why i ask this here: lucid puppy 5.2.8 seemed to be booting fine until it said performing a 'switch_root' to the layered filesystem . . . Kernel panic - not syn, g: ateempted to kill init! and then it stopped
[03:24] <LinuxRules> but I use and will do into I have to use Gnome 3 switch to tty1 :)
[03:24] <ranu> You're done. How many more times would you hit arrow keys, page down, end, etc to do the same in nano?
[03:24] <LinuxRules> Gnome*
[03:24] <alkafoo> WebGoddess008: and you don't know yet if you prefer the rest of KDE over the rest of GNOME?
[03:25] <WebGoddess008> i haven't tried the rest of kde
[03:25] <WebGoddess008> i just installed the main ubuntu, and it defaults to gnome/unity
[03:25] <alkafoo> grape_: if you can't debug issues on your own, you really shouldn't be using puppy
[03:25] <alkafoo> and that said, it's pretty unlikely you should be using puppy regardless; its only purpose is to run on hardware from the 80s
[03:25] <WebGoddess008> i like the name unity because my religion is PLUR aka peace, love, unity, and respect :P
[03:26] <WebGoddess008> but that being said perhaps i'm a kubuntu personality type if i were to actually give it a try
[03:26] <BangBusRUs> Back wow didn't know Ubuntu was so cool ha
[03:26] <grape_> right, which is what im trying to do, this distro in particular is supposed to be easy to use for the novice
[03:26] <urlin2u> grape_, try #puppylinux
[03:26] <WebGoddess008> i suppose i can download and try the livecd and see if i like it just took forever to get unity working the way i like it
[03:26] <alkafoo> grape_: yet clearly it isn't
[03:26] <grape_> i did, no one is answering right now
[03:26] <LinuxRules> alkafoo i scrolled up to copy and paste what you said must of dreamt it
[03:26] <alkafoo> WebGoddess008: heh
[03:26]  * station switches from irssi to weechat
[03:27] <alkafoo> isn't that always the way
[03:27] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: =)
[03:27] <LinuxRules> Im smashed
[03:27] <grape_> alkafoo_ i dont know about that, they said my machine might have trouble since it only has 60 MB of RAM
[03:27] <WebGoddess008> well ubuntu would be easy for a novice, if said novice hasn't used a computer before and wasn't dogmaed into ways of doing thimgs aready
[03:27] <WebGoddess008> *things
[03:27] <alkafoo> grape_: in the time it's taking you to get this working, you could undoubtedly earn enough to get a modern machine
[03:28] <WebGoddess008> i think ubuntu is a good distro for a novice computer user, not someone who is indoctrinated in years of windows necessarily
[03:28] <grape_> gee, you guys arent very nice
[03:28] <alkafoo> nice doesn't factor into it
[03:28] <LinuxRules> << Is useless at any non RH/Cent/Fedora questions too Im here to learn the DEbian way
[03:28] <grape_> i thought IRC was about helping nevermind
[03:28] <alkafoo> the people who weren't nice are those who told you to use puppy
[03:28] <Boom_Farmer> Is it safe to upgrade 10.04.3 LTS to 11.10 using a LiveCD?
[03:28] <WebGoddess008> grape hardware is cheap these days
[03:28] <urlin2u> Boom_Farmer, wont be a upgrade
[03:29] <alkafoo> Boom_Farmer: if you have a separate /home/ partition
[03:29] <grape_> cheap is relative
[03:29] <alkafoo> not that relative
[03:29] <BangBusRUs> alkafoo, ok so now I can see the partitions, but now is there a way to reformat the partitions to something bindows wont have a hard time reading from?
[03:29] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: yes, with gparted
[03:29] <Boom_Farmer> alkafoo, I have the contents of /home backed up on an unplugged external drive.
[03:29] <BangBusRUs> ok thanks
[03:29] <WebGoddess008> i'm homeless at the moment grape and i have a laptop with two gigs of ram that i got free
[03:29] <Boom_Farmer> urlin2u: What's the right term/why not?
[03:29] <alkafoo> Boom_Farmer: then you could just do an ordinary install of the new version and copy it back
[03:30] <LinuxRules> webgoddess are yoyu blonde?
[03:30] <WebGoddess008> natural blonde :P
[03:30] <Boom_Farmer> What would the advantagese of doing a clean install instead of a distribution upgrade via LiveCD?
[03:30] <WebGoddess008> no, i didn't whore myself out
[03:30] <WebGoddess008> :P
[03:30] <alkafoo> Boom_Farmer: might work if you do a clean install =P
[03:30] <LinuxRules> ah I like brunettes :(
[03:31] <alkafoo> I like ettes
[03:31] <urlin2u> Boom_Farmer, if you have a separate home as suggested you can save your stuff, as far as a OS upgrade they go from lts or lts or distro by distro.
[03:31] <urlin2u> or=to*
[03:31] <alkafoo> haven't had much success with Ubuntu release updates
[03:31] <grape_> webgoddess you just backed my point. let me know where i can get something with 2 gb of RAM for free and i will be happy to ditch this project
[03:32] <WebGoddess008> honest opinion guys, if i try live cd for kubuntu and like it better should i switch to it?  if i'm going to reinstall again i might as well do it now while i'm only a week into ubuntu as primary OS than when i'm a month into it
[03:32] <BangBusRUs> alfafoo, What file format should I get so both linux and bindows can read/mount them easly?
[03:32] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: NTFS
[03:32] <alkafoo> grape_: you don't need free, you can get a modern computer for $100
[03:32] <LinuxRules> Who needs 2 gb of ddr ram these days?
[03:32] <WebGoddess008> someone left it at an eviction property because they couldn't figure out windows
[03:32] <alkafoo> if you can't make $100 fairly rapidly, you  have no business being on IRC
[03:32] <LinuxRules> is it even sdram?
[03:32] <hydruid> have most of you learned to like unity, or am I the only one who simply hates it?
[03:33] <alkafoo> you can get a raspberry pi soon for $25
[03:33] <WebGoddess008> i like it okay
[03:33] <BangBusRUs> Okay Thanks a lot I really appreciate it... alkafoo
[03:33] <antonio_> hello, i'm antonio, i don't speak english, but i need help about ubuntu server, can you help me?
[03:33] <WebGoddess008> it doesn't feel "ready for prime time" though
[03:33] <grape_> i already have a modern laptop, an old desktop, and now a really old laptop, which for fun and for practical reasons i would like to not just throw away
[03:33] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: no prob
[03:33] <alkafoo> antonio_: what do you speak?
[03:33] <antonio_> i speak spain
[03:33] <lovecrime> rc.indymedia.org
[03:33] <alkafoo> castellano =)
[03:33] <WebGoddess008> i think unity has good potential just there are some gotchas that make it kind of frustrating
[03:33] <antonio_> si
[03:33] <antonio_> castellano
[03:33] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, it feels clunky lol. I agree something had to be done but i think unity was a huge step back
[03:34] <LinuxRules> tty1 > the way most desktops are going (this isnt a tablet or a phone!)
[03:34] <aeon-ltd> !es | antonio_
[03:34] <WebGoddess008> but i'm very nitpicky being a "power user" of a computer rather than the typical "word and excel" cubical types
[03:34] <alkafoo> lot of people think that, though =)
[03:34] <antonio_> i write that here?
[03:34] <alkafoo> antonio_: yes
[03:34] <antonio_> thanks!
[03:34] <alkafoo>  /join #Ubuntu-es
[03:34] <Boom_Farmer> urlin2u, alkafoo: I am currently running the LiveCD, and it has an option to upgrade from 10.04.3 LTS to 11.10. See http://i.imgur.com/kRt0M.png
[03:35] <alkafoo> Boom_Farmer: I believe there's an option
[03:35] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, yea.....2 application users will have no problems with unity because they won't use it lol
[03:35] <alkafoo> Boom_Farmer: but if you've already backed up your home, you may as well do a fresh install
[03:35] <LinuxRules> webgoddess008 well do what Linux lets you that windows doesent install or code your own x11 :)
[03:35] <WebGoddess008> well this is my first major ubuntu install, i tried 8.04 back when it came out but didn't have the motivation to make the switch
[03:35] <alkafoo> Boom_Farmer: unless you're just bored/curious
[03:35] <Boom_Farmer> alkafoo, what would the advantage of doing a fresh install be?
[03:35] <alkafoo> Boom_Farmer: it'd be much more likely to work properly
[03:35] <urlin2u> Boom_Farmer, sounds familiar that was a unusual step in the history of ubuntu.
[03:36] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, did you go with unity 2d or 3d?
[03:36] <WebGoddess008> i wish that there was a linux native equivalent for SQLyog, i suppose i can heidisql over wine but if i'm going to heidisql~wine i might as well sqlyog~wine
[03:36] <Duker> Nothing is showing up when i try to run system-config-samba (after entering my password)
[03:36] <Duker> on 11.10
[03:36] <alkafoo> WebGoddess008: what does sqlyog do?
[03:36] <WebGoddess008> just 2d since the graphics card sucks on this laptop
[03:37] <Boom_Farmer> alkafoo: is having things not work a common problem after a dist-upgrade?
[03:37] <zizoo> Hey guys, how do I mount a CD so that an app run in Wine will recognize it as a CD?
[03:37] <alkafoo> Boom_Farmer: IME it is, with Ubuntu
[03:37] <LinuxRules> webgoddess008 or fix your sql syntax :)
[03:37] <alkafoo> Boom_Farmer: if things work _at all_
[03:37] <WebGoddess008> sqlyog is a powerful tool for mysql DBA including stored procs and triggers and user management etc
[03:37] <zizoo> From an .iso file*
[03:37] <WebGoddess008> much better than mysqladmin
[03:37] <alkafoo> WebGoddess008: so, GUI manager?
[03:37] <WebGoddess008> yeah, it is nice
[03:37] <WebGoddess008> i like being productive
[03:37] <alkafoo> zizoo: mount as usual, tell winecfg where it is
[03:37] <WebGoddess008> it makes me more productive
[03:38] <LinuxRules> mysql -uuser -ppassword :)
[03:38] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, go lamp and use PHPMyAdmin lol
[03:38] <alkafoo> it does take a while to learn all the commands
[03:38] <Boom_Farmer> Then I think I shall do a clean install, even though it means reinstalling all my packages.
[03:38] <WebGoddess008> it is better than phpmyadmin
[03:38] <zizoo> Oh ok. Thanks!
[03:38] <alkafoo> to not have to need a GUI
[03:38] <LinuxRules> correection to above mysql -uuser -p
[03:38] <WebGoddess008> i guess i could use phpmyadmin if i have to go completely linux lol
[03:39] <LinuxRules> then enter your pass
[03:39] <alkafoo> Boom_Farmer: think it'll spare you grief in the long run =)
[03:39] <WebGoddess008> yeah yeah
[03:39] <alkafoo> Boom_Farmer: you can generate a list of your extra installed packages beforehand if you like
[03:39] <alkafoo> !clone
[03:39] <WebGoddess008> before i go command line mysql i'm going to figure out vim completely
[03:39] <hydruid> phpmyadmin lets you use gui and sql commands
[03:39] <alkafoo> WebGoddess008: good idea
[03:39] <WebGoddess008> namely i don't know how to handle multiple documents and tabs in gvim
[03:39] <Pilif12p> is there some sort of way that Ubuntu figures out how much swap it needs when you're installing it?
[03:39] <WebGoddess008> i like vim a lot for server work just haven't used it locally
[03:39] <alkafoo> well, webUI
[03:40] <alkafoo> Pilif12p: I would imagine there must be some formula
[03:40] <Boom_Farmer> I used http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261366 instead.
[03:40] <WebGoddess008> usually 1.5-2x your ram
[03:40] <Pilif12p> Or does it just say "Hey, I like the number 853 so lets turn that into gigabytes, move the decimal over a couple"
[03:40] <alkafoo> Pilif12p: no doubt based partly on how much RAM the system has
[03:40] <Pilif12p> because that's what it seems to have done
[03:40] <Pilif12p> I don't think I need an 8.5 GB swap partition
[03:40] <alkafoo> Pilif12p: it _probably_ doesn't do that
[03:40] <alkafoo> Pilif12p: you don't
[03:41] <hydruid> Pilif12p, how much ram do you have?
[03:41] <Pilif12p> 3 gb
[03:41] <LinuxRules> webgoddess008 learning vim wont help you with mysql nano is the better quick to use editor. You will only ever need to know vi when you need to recover a failed mission critical server
[03:41] <antonio_> mmm hello, nobody is online in "/join #ubuntu-es", could you help me here?
[03:41] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: I don't think she was suggesting it would
[03:41] <hydruid> Pilif12p, yea 8gb is too big lol
[03:41] <WebGoddess008> ... so if i install kubuntu can i keep my regular home directory or do i have to do a clean install? or is it just best to do a clean install?  i'm not sure if i'll like kubuntu more or not either so i don't want to waste time
[03:41] <alkafoo> antonio_: yes
[03:41] <WebGoddess008> i already know vim, just not gui vim
[03:42] <alkafoo> WebGoddess008: should be fine with your current home
[03:42] <Boom_Farmer> WebGoddess008: You can just run "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" on your current install of Ubuntu.
[03:42] <alkafoo> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde results vary
[03:42] <WebGoddess008> i thought i tried that and it errored out but i'll try again
[03:42] <LinuxRules> webgoddess008 you already using Ubuntu , if you aree no need for Kubuntu just install kde
[03:42] <alkafoo> you might want to try it from outside of X
[03:42] <alkafoo> I've had mixed luck with it
[03:42] <antonio_> ok, i hope you can stand my english xD, i wanna start a ubnut server but i don't know if i must to configure the router, i should do it or it is not need
[03:42] <alkafoo> a fresh install would probably be more likely to work
[03:42] <hydruid> Everytime I've tried to use it, I could never get back to gnome lol
[03:43] <alkafoo> antonio_: you don't need to unless you do =)
[03:43] <alkafoo> antonio_: that is: install, see how it works out, then decide
[03:43] <antonio_> if i wanns mount a web server?
[03:43] <mrdeb> it is ok antonio, go ahead
[03:43] <alkafoo> antonio_: you want to serve to the internet
[03:43] <antonio_> yeah
[03:43] <alkafoo> antonio_: you might have to alter your router configuration, but you can do it after installing
[03:43] <WebGoddess008> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:43] <WebGoddess008>  kubuntu-desktop : Depends: kde-window-manager
[03:43] <WebGoddess008>                    Depends: kde-workspace-bin but it is not going to be installed
[03:43] <WebGoddess008>                    Depends: language-selector-kde but it is not going to be installed
[03:43] <WebGoddess008>                    Depends: plasma-desktop but it is not going to be installed
[03:43] <FloodBot1> WebGoddess008: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:43] <WebGoddess008>                    Depends: plasma-netbook but it is not going to be installed
[03:43] <antonio_> to internet
[03:43] <EvilResistance> !pastebin | WebGoddess008
[03:44] <WebGoddess008> sorry floodbot my bad
[03:44] <antonio_> anyway i must do it?
[03:44] <atvr> hey guys how can i make a new partition in kde partition manager, i want to make a partition to save some musci, text and photo
[03:44] <atvr> photo=picture
[03:44] <alkafoo> antonio_: you might have to do it, you probably will have to BUT
[03:44] <alkafoo> antonio_: you can do it after you install the server, you don't have to wait
[03:44] <hydruid> antonio_, setup your ubuntu web server first, make sure it works on the lan, patch it and secure it, then create a port forward in your router for wan access
[03:45] <LinuxRules> webgoddess008 what did you use for install?
[03:45] <antonio_> ok i have stand
[03:45] <antonio_> thank very much
[03:45] <antonio_> muchas gracias
[03:45] <alkafoo> your English is pretty good, BTW
[03:45] <WebGoddess008> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:45] <LinuxRules> why use kde though
[03:45] <alkafoo> sorry my castellano is so horrid
[03:45] <antonio_> jajaja i try to speak english
[03:45] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: why use nano
[03:45] <hydruid> antonio_, server web setup you will forward router port wan
[03:46] <atvr> LinuxRules, because i have kubuntu
[03:46] <LinuxRules> alkafoo because its less keys to press
[03:46] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: but it isn't =)
[03:46] <antonio_> ok then i must pen the port form the router to wan, its true?
[03:46] <WebGoddess008> http://paste.ubuntu.com/792374/
[03:46] <LinuxRules> alkafoo it is though 1. vi
[03:47] <hydruid> antonio_, the port foward in the router is only so the "internet" can see your web server
[03:47] <Circular> does there have any chinese here???
[03:47] <alkafoo> antonio_: somehow you have to get a static IP to point to your web server, there are various scenarios
[03:47] <LinuxRules> alkafoo 2. insert
[03:47] <alkafoo> Circular: #ubuntu-cn
[03:47] <LinuxRules> alkafoo 3 type
[03:47] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: insert is not the second step =P
[03:48] <antonio_> ok
[03:48] <LinuxRules> thats the way its always worked for me
[03:48] <antonio_> i stand
[03:48] <hydruid> antonio_, an example: Web Server Lan IP: <IP_ADDRESS> , public IP: <IP_ADDRESS> , create port forward of <IP_ADDRESS>:8080 -> <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[03:48] <alkafoo> antonio_: just install and get your system working locally first, you have to do that regardless
[03:48] <LinuxRules> alkafoo Ive always hated vim lol
[03:48] <BangBusRUs> Whats the best media player that can play almost all media?
[03:48] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: that has a GUI?
[03:48] <hydruid> BangBusRUs, nice name lol
[03:48] <BangBusRUs> Thx
[03:49] <BangBusRUs> Dont care would be nice to have a nice gui but it should be a resorce hog like all of bindows apps
[03:49] <antonio_> okok where <IP_ADDRESS> is the public ip and 8080 is the port number?
[03:49] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: try SMPlayer
[03:49] <hydruid> antonio_, just setup the server first, then worry about the port forward later
[03:50] <antonio_> ok,
[03:50] <BangBusRUs> ok thx, would it be good for dvd's and DAT files?
[03:50] <Guest52340> My ubuntu on flashdrive can't install to hard drive completely, various errors
[03:50] <antonio_> thank you, i will start my server now! :D
[03:50] <Guest52340> is there any other way to install to hard drive?
[03:50] <LinuxRules> hydruid your server only serving web pages?
[03:50] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: almost anything
[03:50] <BangBusRUs> sweet
[03:51] <Bunie> I know i should ask this in #gnome but you guys r awesome x3 Why the heck doesnt Gnome have a minimize button?
[03:51] <antonio_> thankkkks!
[03:51] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: mplayer (what SMPlayer is a frontend for) will probably play a little more just because the GUI has to make certain assumptions
[03:51] <hydruid> LinuxRules, not mine it's antonio_ 's
[03:51] <alkafoo> Bunie: doesn't it?
[03:52] <LinuxRules> ah kk only 80 and a http aly have been opened though
[03:52] <LinuxRules> alt*
[03:53] <WebGoddess008> ... so do gnome apps work well with kde? i would assume so but i haven't done anything with kde so i'm gnu to it
[03:53] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, i think they can float back and forth but it looks "ugly"
[03:53] <LinuxRules> dont use kde its bad!
[03:53] <hydruid> and i'm not even picky about appearance lol
[03:54] <WebGoddess008> why is it bad
[03:54] <hydruid> however most people hate kde now
[03:54] <hydruid> personally i hate them all, gnome, unity, and kde
[03:54] <mrdeb> bunie, you can change it to show minimize but they try to keep it simple
[03:54] <WebGoddess008> well what do you use hydruid and why
[03:54] <LinuxRules> its to messy I dont use my gui much but would rather go through 1 than 3
[03:54] <obelus> My laptop just started spewing so many errors about pixbuf loader files when I told it to update...
[03:54] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, windows 7 :) and android because they are simple but work
[03:55] <Ford_P> Hello need assistance. My sound all of a sudden stopped working.
[03:55] <WebGoddess008> the thing is that i want to evangelize people to linux, so whatever is best for others i want to be familiar with
[03:55] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, I've always been a hardcore linux fan but the UI is lacking compared to windows
[03:55] <Safe_> Ford_P: I recently had some problems with my audio, what is your specific problem?
[03:55] <Ford_P> It worked on Friday, but doesn't work now
[03:55] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, so for the last couple months i've been using windows 7 as my main desktop with linux VM's
[03:55] <Ford_P> checked the obvious
[03:56] <WebGoddess008> i mean i could probably just go to debian and use generic xfce and figure it out but that isn't helping me evangelize so well
[03:56] <Safe_> Ford_P: have you checked the simple things, as in alsamixer etc?
[03:56] <Ford_P> volume button is turned on
[03:56] <WebGoddess008> well i tried Xubuntu and wasn't impressed by it
[03:56] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, yea but it goes back to what you said earlier.....unity is for regular users, not power users
[03:56] <Ford_P> Need assistance with knowing which chipset I have
[03:56] <WebGoddess008> i think Kubuntu will probably be better for me than Xubuntu
[03:56] <WebGoddess008> just not sure if it is better than unity
[03:56] <Ford_P> I ran lspci -v
[03:57] <hydruid> most people think that way until they use it
[03:57] <hydruid> have fun getting lost in it's k-menu ;)
[03:57] <Ford_P> and I get lot's of text back
[03:57] <WebGoddess008> just i want to solidify on one platform and stick to it since i don't have time to keep fussing with guis
[03:57] <Safe_> Ford_P: My problem was embarrasingly simple, it had switched to hdmi, went into alsamixer, muted hdmi, changed soundcard and muted s/pdif and then it worked.
[03:57] <Ford_P> but don't know what text is important
[03:57] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, well then you're stuck in the same boat as me, most of them are horrible right now
[03:57] <Ford_P> so I should open the alsamixer?
[03:58] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, however most people are either using Unity or Gnome
[03:58] <LinuxRules> Linux is for people who want to be real hackers ( not crackers) Windows users are people who want to use email and facebook
[03:58] <hydruid> LinuxRules, that is not always true
[03:58] <WebGoddess008> i thought unity was gnome
[03:58] <Ford_P> Cool I hope it's embarrassingly simple.
[03:58] <WebGoddess008> you're saying gnome has its own desktop? is that Xubuntu?
[03:58] <hydruid> LinuxRules, my wife prefers linux to check her facebook and email lol
[03:58] <LinuxRules> hydruid I know
[03:58] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, no
[03:59] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, Xubuntu uses XFCE for it's desktoop, Kubuntu uses KDE, Ubuntu uses Unity
[03:59] <WebGoddess008> hrm
[03:59] <mrdeb> you should guve gnome 3 and unity chance
[03:59] <grape_> normally i use default disc writer when i stick a cd in, i need to burn at slow speed however to prevent an error i am getting so i think i have to use brasero to control the speed; however the terms used are different, im assuming i need to choose burn data, but then it gives me the option to burn as image or burn as data, not sure what to do
[03:59] <WebGoddess008> should i just switch to debian and use gnome then lol
[03:59] <mrdeb> give
[03:59] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, if you've ever used Debian or Fedora, or old school versions of Ubuntu then you used gnome
[03:59] <rypervenche> Xfce ftw :)
[04:00] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, up to you, most people are running gnome or unity right now from what i hear
[04:00] <Ford_P> Where did you make the change so that the sound worked?
[04:00] <hydruid> Unity is probably the most user friendly
[04:00] <WebGoddess008> how does debian on gui compare to ubuntu? ubuntu seems more PLUR lol
[04:00] <hydruid> plur?
[04:00] <WebGoddess008> peace~love~unity~respect
[04:00] <mrdeb> they are both goo
[04:00] <mrdeb> good
[04:01] <LinuxRules> webgoddess008 until you know how to replace your desktop you dont like no help can be offered play around with aptitude see what it does and you should work it out
[04:01] <mrdeb> unity will work on hte new intel tablets too
[04:01] <grape_> oh and i am burning an iso to install an OS
[04:01] <WebGoddess008> hmm
[04:01] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, you have unity now and you see how it works. Gnome is similiar to the way Microsoft Windows work with a start button and being menu driven
[04:01] <WebGoddess008> well i may just download and install debian
[04:02] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, you might think about that first, ubuntu is made from debian
[04:02] <LinuxRules> Debian is good
[04:02] <hydruid> debian = stable but older apps
[04:02] <hydruid> ubuntu = a little more buggy but new apps
[04:02] <atvr> grape_, choose burn as image
[04:02] <mrdeb> webgo, try it
[04:02] <aBound> Ubuntu = Debian testing = Newer apps.
[04:02] <WebGoddess008> i've been using debian on server side for years
[04:02] <hydruid> but underneath they're very similiar
[04:02] <WebGoddess008> well i can just update the repositories to get newer apps w/debian right?
[04:03] <WebGoddess008> i mean i'd like firefox 9 but ubuntu doesn't have it
[04:03] <mrdeb> or try crunchbang
[04:03] <hydruid> correct
[04:03] <aBound> WebGoddess008, You can grab a PPA to install Firefox 9.0.1.
[04:03] <mrdeb> yes firefox9 works on ubuntu
[04:03] <LinuxRules> hydruid yeah they do work in the same way but there defo not the same under the hood!
[04:03] <hydruid> however by default ubuntu runs say FF8, where debian runs FF7
[04:03] <mrdeb> download it from the site and run it
[04:03] <hydruid> debian just lags a little behind
[04:03] <WebGoddess008> for 11.10? i found it for older ubuntu versions
[04:04] <sagaci> !info firefox
[04:04] <Boom_Farmer> You can find a ppa for nightly, aurora, and beta.
[04:04] <hydruid> LinuxRules, you know that Ubuntu is made from debian right?
[04:04] <aBound> I have 9.0.1. on 10.04 LTS through a PPA.
[04:04] <diuneigh> can someone help me with a small permission problem?
[04:04] <aBound> But I noticed 9.0.1. tends to have a bug in it.
[04:04] <hydruid> diuneigh, post your question
[04:04] <mrdeb> yeah but you dont need need pp
[04:04] <mrdeb> it runs from file
[04:04] <LinuxRules> hydruid thought you were talking about distros in general sorry
[04:05] <aBound> Blah, accidentally closed IRC.
[04:05] <diuneigh> hydruid: I tried to install a program.. but now I do not want it and want to delete it but I can't because I set read only permission.  How can I delete that folder..  sorry I'm a noob.
[04:05] <sagaci> LinuxRules: ubuntu is something like 70% unmodified debian packages anyway
[04:05] <defaultuser> Can anyone tell me how to get rid of the desktop launcher thing that installs with 10.04 netbook?  it runs sooooo slow.
[04:05] <Boom_Farmer> WebGoddess008: Choose from the Mozilla Launchpad PPAs: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam
[04:05] <diuneigh> hydruid:  I gave this command sudo chmod 777 -R (dir name)
[04:05] <Boom_Farmer> defaultuser: Are you using Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[04:06] <LinuxRules> sagaci cheers :)
[04:06] <defaultuser> ubuntu.  gnome.
[04:06] <WebGoddess008> thanks boom
[04:06] <hydruid> diuneigh, sudo chown -R username:root /dir/name
[04:06] <hydruid> ?
[04:06] <WebGoddess008> well for debian should i just get i386 iso then?  i don't think this laptop can do x64
[04:06] <LinuxRules> I wear a red hat personally
[04:06] <Boom_Farmer> defaultuser: Do you like how the 'desktop launcher thing' looks, or would you be interested in a different desktop environment?
[04:06] <hydruid> diuneigh, or maybe, chmod -R 777 /dir/name
[04:06] <WebGoddess008> ugh i don't really like redhat
[04:06] <diuneigh> hydruid: let me try.. thank you..
[04:06] <LinuxRules> its what I work with always worked with red hat servers
[04:07] <defaultuser> boom, i'm brand newb.  i honestly don't care hat it looks like, i just want it work well. : )
[04:07] <BangBusRUs> Okay got everything sorted, just one last thing, I am going to be using Ubuntu on my Lenovo Thinkpad T61 and so how do I get the fingerprint scanner to work?
[04:07] <LinuxRules> why Im here leaning Debian server ways but its always desktop stuff
[04:07] <aBound> defaultuser, Probably best to stick to Ubuntu 10.04 for stability.
[04:07] <hydruid> LinuxRules, so you actually running redhat servers or CentOS ?
[04:08] <LinuxRules> hydruid Im 2nd line support mainly centos but some red hat
[04:08] <hydruid> LinuxRules, linux tech support, doesn't sound like fun lol
[04:08] <defaultuser> aBound: the default launcher is what i'm trying to get rid of.  it's essentially nonfucntional.  a google search yields others with a similar problem, but no solution (that i know how to implement)
[04:08] <Boom_Farmer> defaultuser: Go to a terminal and type 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop'
[04:09] <Boom_Farmer> That will install XFCE
[04:09] <LinuxRules> hydruid Its not bad until you have to call them
[04:09] <aBound> defaultuser, Default launcher as in what Unity?
[04:09] <defaultuser> abound: i have no idea.
[04:09] <LinuxRules> hydruid Its server support to
[04:09] <Ford_P> How do I identify my chipset when I type lspci -v
[04:09] <Ford_P> ?
[04:09] <hydruid> LinuxRules, tech support is bad enough, but with linux there are a million wrong ways to do something
[04:10] <Boom_Farmer> Ford_P: What particular chipset are you looking for? Wifi?
[04:10] <aBound> defaultuser, Haven't a clue what you referred to as a launcher. But if you're referring to the GUI.
[04:10] <Ford_P> sound
[04:10] <Ford_P> Where can I copy and paste the output ?
[04:10] <Ford_P> Can I dump it into the chat?
[04:10] <hydruid> !pastebin | grep Ford_P
[04:10] <Boom_Farmer> Ford_P: pastebin.com
[04:11] <Ford_P> cheers
[04:11] <LinuxRules> hydruid yeah now thats one thing that was brought to my attention, but if someone is stupid enough to break there pc so?
[04:11] <aBound> Ubuntu 11.10 uses Unity as it's default GUI whereas gnome-shell can be installed along the side. Ubuntu 10.04 LTS uses Gnome 2 by default.
[04:11] <defaultuser> abound, im referring to whatever it is that occupies the my entire screen at startup on netbook version.  it has favorites, files, accesories, games, etc, on the left, and a list of applications on the entire rest of the screen
[04:11] <defaultuser> boom_farmer: it says cannot find package xubuntu-desktop
[04:11] <aBound> Ahh, haven't a clue with the netbook version.
[04:12] <Ford_P> So I've posted it to the paste bin. But I think the chipset is Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV Processor to I/O Controller (rev 02)
[04:13] <diuneigh> can anyone help me delete a directory that had read permission only?
[04:14] <thiner> how do trouble shoot sound
[04:14] <BangBusRUs> I'm trying to get the fingerprint scanner to work on my thinkpad t61 any ideas?
[04:14] <LinuxRules> diuneigh if the files owened by root no
[04:14] <Boom_Farmer> defaultuser: Did you spell it right? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu
[04:14] <LinuxRules> which it will be if you caqnt delete
[04:15] <diuneigh> linuxRules:  I made the dir myself but I can't delete it now.. sorry I'm a noob..
[04:15] <defaultuser> boom_farmer, command on tha link seems to be working, thank you. : )
[04:16] <LinuxRules> diuneigh where did you make the dir need the full path
[04:16] <WebGoddess008> ... well i'm burning a debian disc and a kubuntu disc so i'm going to see what i like better from livecd and probably go with it
[04:16] <thiner> i had sound then changed it to 5.1 surround sound and now i have no sound
[04:16] <WebGoddess008> ... i'll probably end up using debian since i'm nitpicky about stuff lol
[04:17] <LinuxRules> webgoddess008 i you invited me to yours I could have installed whatr was needed
[04:17] <diuneigh> LinuxRules:  $ sudo chmod 777 -R /opt/test/
[04:17] <diuneigh> LinuxRules: that is the command I gave to make it read only
[04:18] <diuneigh> LinuxRules:  Now I want to delete it.
[04:18] <LinuxRules> diuneigh what needs access to that?
[04:18] <diuneigh> LinuxRules:  I tried to install a torrent program
[04:18] <BangBusRUs> Anybody good with thinkpads?
[04:18] <WebGoddess008> ... i just want to be super productive ... unity is slowing me down somewhat, although i love the name of it
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: in what way?
[04:18] <LinuxRules> if its got 777 you should be able to delete no?
[04:19] <diuneigh> terminal says permission denied.
[04:19] <BangBusRUs> just installed ubuntu but the fingerprint scanner isnt working any ideas
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> WebGoddess008: install xfce4 and log into the XFCE session, should be ok
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: run:  lspci; lsusb      one line will identify the device, use the line to find guides
[04:19] <diuneigh> LinuxRules:  what code do I type to delete it?
[04:19] <BangBusRUs> That was the only thing that drove me back to bindows
[04:19] <BangBusRUs> ok
[04:20] <LinuxRules> diuneigh cant help nothing Ive used
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: for the sake of a crummy fingerprint reader, that's pretty poor
[04:20] <BangBusRUs> Im lazy lol
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: sad
[04:20] <BangBusRUs> j/k
[04:20] <diuneigh> LinuxRules:  ok.. thanks anyway..
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> diuneigh: if the torrent is active it will lock the files. Is that what you are trying to do
[04:21] <diuneigh> ActionParsnip:  no, I never got the program to install properly so now I want to remove it..
[04:21] <rurufufuss> any recommendations for a diary program for ubuntu?
[04:21] <thiner> any one no how to get sound to work
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> diuneigh: what is the app and how did you install it>
[04:22] <diuneigh> ActionParsnip:  can I pm you the link?
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> thiner: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> diuneigh: sure
[04:23] <geoffmcc> rurufufuss: you could check out rednotebook
[04:23] <LinuxRules> domething like apt-get-install-diff-from-yum
[04:24] <LinuxRules> oh sorry you have to use sudo
[04:24] <rurufufuss> geoffmcc: thanks, will try that
[04:24] <BangBusRUs> still nothing
[04:24] <WebGoddess008> ActionParsnip, do i just do "sudo apt-get install xfce4"?
[04:25] <LinuxRules> I like mhow Ubuntu is spreading the Linux but dont dumb it down to much
[04:25] <thiner> under sound setting output is says dunny output
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> WebGoddess008: yes, then log off, change your session to xfce and log in
[04:25] <WebGoddess008> thanks, i'll try that <3
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> WebGoddess008: smells and feels like gniome2
[04:26] <WebGoddess008> what about gnome3? lol
[04:26] <LinuxRules> gnome 3 sucks try Debian 6 to see
[04:26] <dr_willis> gnome 1 :)
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> WebGoddess008: it will be installed, just not running. You can use your Gnome apps without issue in XFCE
[04:26] <pangolin> !ot > LinuxRules
[04:26] <LinuxRules> or Fedora probably 17 by now
[04:27] <WebGoddess008> oh ok
[04:27] <WebGoddess008> well it's installing now so i'll see how i like it when it finishes the install
[04:27] <thiner> fedora is plain looking to me
[04:27] <aBound> Woot, good thing for Linux. :)
[04:27] <Bunie> how do i check the space available on my HDD?
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> thiner: if you can give the output of my command, we may be able to advise
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> Bunie: df -h
[04:28] <LinuxRules> have I been blocked I did say Fedora 17 probablly what there at anyway
[04:28] <WebGoddess008> thanks ActionParsnip gonna log off now to try this out ...
[04:28] <Bunie> ActionParsnip: thanks. it kept telling me lost+found has no space left? :S
[04:28] <BangBusRUs> ActionParsnip still nothing bro...
[04:29] <LinuxRules> webgoddess008 if you give me root I will fix
[04:29] <ryoohki> is there a time when firefox 9 will be available for oneiric?
[04:30] <pangolin> LinuxRules: Please stop with the off topic and unhelpful comments
[04:30] <LinuxRules> I was offering help
[04:30] <eyeothemastodon> I am looking for some help regarding the migration of fstab over a downgrade from 64bit to 32bit
[04:30] <Bunie> ryoohki: You could probably install the Beta
[04:30] <thiner> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=e024687983e6218ec8317c5b002aa498f5532e3f when into the terminal and entered it and that is what i came up with
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: are there any bugs reported?
[04:30] <BangBusRUs> LinuxRules any ideas on thinkpad fingerprint scanner?
[04:30] <BangBusRUs> nope
[04:31] <LinuxRules> not really BangBusRUs Im a server man
[04:31] <BangBusRUs> ok thx
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: I suggest you report one then
[04:31] <ryoohki> Bunie: know where the beta is? ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa ?
[04:31] <BangBusRUs> how?
[04:31] <BangBusRUs> I'm very new to linux btw
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> !bug | BangBusRUs
[04:32] <BangBusRUs> huh???
[04:33] <BangBusRUs> 0_o
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: what?
[04:33] <LinuxRules> I know its off topic but any of you Ubuntu guys like any other distros?
[04:33] <BangBusRUs> ok thx
[04:33] <pangolin> err
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> ha oggtopic :)
[04:35] <Logos01> Greetings. Anyone here think they can help me not have to reformat my HTPC? I tried to enable lzo compression on it (using btrfs) -- and it won't boot past the GRUB window. I *can* however get a full/normal session logged on -- but only via NX remote desktop.
[04:35] <diuneigh> does anyone have an idea why ubuntu 11.10 lags when I click on a program?  it takes around 5 second for it to pop up.
[04:35] <Logos01> I can ssh in but as far as all native output, it's all stuck at the GRUB2 window.
[04:35] <Logos01> Any takers?
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: what GPU do you use?
[04:36] <dr_willis> grub menu you mean?
[04:36] <Logos01> dr_willis: No. Not grub menu. An error screen related to GRUB but not the menu itself.
[04:36] <LinuxRules> logos01 is that x11 forwarding or your desktop?
[04:36] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: GT440.
[04:36] <Logos01> LinuxRules: Yes and yes. freenx.
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[04:37] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: What makes you think it's the video card?
[04:37] <thiner> new to Linux and cant get my sound to work
[04:37] <Logos01> Also, I'm using the nvidia driver not the noveau driver.
[04:37] <LinuxRules> logos01 your yes and yes does not make sense
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: does the system go to a black screen after grub?
[04:37] <Logos01> LinuxRules: Read up on what freenx is.
[04:37] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: No.
[04:37] <sdz> How can I lower the network priority or set a speed limit for a running process?
[04:37] <Logos01> I don't get to the grub menu at all.
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: what if you hold shift at boot?
[04:37] <Logos01> It freezes at "error: sparse file not allowed. \n\n Press any key to continue..."
[04:38] <Logos01> Haven't tried holding shift at boot, gimme a second.
[04:38] <Logos01> Also, this behavior began when I attempted to enable lzo compression on my root directory.
[04:38] <Logos01> (I've since removed that flag, but it's still behaving this way.)
[04:38] <eyeothemastodon> how does the fstab change with upgrades?
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> eyeothemastodon: upgrades to what?
[04:39] <eyeothemastodon> distro upgrades
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> eyeothemastodon: it's untouched
[04:39] <eyeothemastodon> like from 10.04 to 11.10
[04:39] <LinuxRules> kerenel
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> eyeothemastodon: you'll need to upgrade a LOT to get from Lucid to Oneiric
[04:39] <eyeothemastodon> right
[04:40] <eyeothemastodon> but if i were to backup my fstab
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> eyeothemastodon: if you can hang til April then you can upgrade  directly to 12.04
[04:40] <eyeothemastodon> could i copy it into a fresh installation?
[04:40] <eyeothemastodon> well, mostly i need to go from 64bit to 32
[04:40] <eyeothemastodon> the upgrade is rather irrelevant
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> eyeothemastodon: sure, if you make new partitions the UUIDs will be different but you can work around that
[04:40] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: Holding down the shift key had no impact whatsoever. What was the goal of that endeavor?
[04:41] <eyeothemastodon> hmm
[04:41] <WebGoddess008> ActionParsnip, xfce works much better, but i didn't like how Xubuntu was set up
[04:41] <eyeothemastodon> this is for a media server
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: it makes grub show, if you single boot Grub doesn't show but holding SHIFT makes it show
[04:41] <WebGoddess008> thanks, i think xfce will actually get the job done for me, it is more intuitive for power use
[04:41] <eyeothemastodon> so i really am trying to avoid changing my 4 tb of data
[04:41] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: Well, it would've showed normally anyhow since I don't have zero timeout on GRUB.
[04:42] <Logos01> But I don't *get to the GRUB menu at all*.
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> WebGoddess008: people disliking Unity / Gnome shell are moving to other DEs like XFCE and such
[04:42] <Logos01> With or without pressing shift.
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: then I suggest you boot to live CD and reinstate Grub2 with this: www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video/
[04:43] <Saeros> Hello, I was wondering if someone could answer a question for me??  I've created a multiple monitor setup, and once I got it working, I now have two menu bars at the top (the top one is just empty, and the bottom row has the menu and time etc).  I'm using gnome classic on 11.10.  Thanks :)
[04:43] <eyeothemastodon> is there a way to go from 11.4 64bit to 11.10 32bit without changing the partitions?
[04:43] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: Why? It goes past GRUB and boots into a fully working instance that I can remote desktop into.
[04:43] <ikonia> eyeothemastodon: no
[04:43] <LinuxRules> TTY1 is mthe new gui
[04:43] <eyeothemastodon> just the partitions, i dont care about the data
[04:43] <Logos01> I just can't get any video/audio/console interaction with the device through any means *other* than network.
[04:43] <ikonia> eyeothemastodon: no
[04:44] <LinuxRules> the*
[04:44] <ikonia> eyeothemastodon: you need to re-install
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: is it just a blank screen?
[04:44] <ikonia> LinuxRules: stop being silly please - only warning you'll get
[04:44] <eyeothemastodon> yes, i am well aware of that
[04:44] <jesse_> sup
[04:44] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: Again, no.
[04:44] <Logos01> I will re-describe my issue again.
[04:44] <LinuxRules> ikonia sorry?
[04:44] <eyeothemastodon> but couldn't that be possible without changing any of the disk structure?
[04:44] <BangBusRUs> actionparsnip http://pastebin.com/Waamb7Xn
[04:45] <jesse_> wtf is this???
[04:45] <ikonia> eyeothemastodon: why would you have to change the partition size ?
[04:45] <ikonia> eyeothemastodon: it's just a re-install, nothing more
[04:45] <Saeros> I'd like to get rid of the blank row ... can anyone help?
[04:45] <eyeothemastodon> ........?
[04:45] <WebGoddess008> i like the "fuzzy" clock
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+package/thinkfinger-tools
[04:46] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: My direct audiovideo output freezes at the GRUB error screen which has the lines "error: compression type 0x2 not supported. \n error: sparse file not allowed. \n \n Press any key to continue..." -- and no keyboard input is acknowledged at all. No audio output is received by my speakers. *HOWEVER* -- it fully boots completely and I am able to remote desktop via NX and/or SSH into the box.
[04:46] <BangBusRUs> thx
[04:46] <eyeothemastodon> ikonia, thats what I was asking. I have an fstab that is setup to automatically merge some drives, took me a while to get that working. and if i could avoid that work again after a re-install, that would be swell
[04:47] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: This all began when I attempted to add the "compress=lzo" flag to my /etc/fstab for my root filesystem (btrfs), but it is persistent even though I have *removed* that flag.
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: I see, I have very basic sound troubleshooting ability. Are there any bugs reported?
[04:47] <ikonia> eyeothemastodon: that will need to be re-written as part of the install
[04:47] <ikonia> eyeothemastodon: just take a backup copy of the fstab and use the parts you can on the new install
[04:47] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: I have no clue. It's not a sound issue.
[04:47] <Logos01> I want my computer to boot normally. It isn't.
[04:47] <eyeothemastodon> ikonia, thank you, thats the confirmation i was looking for
[04:47] <Logos01> I need to have it boot with normal audiovideo output and I'd rather not have to reformat the disk to achieve this.
[04:47] <Logos01> The problem began when I attempted to enable lzo compression and ended then. It is not a sound issue.
[04:48] <Logos01> If you are not qualified to help with this, just say so and I will move on.
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: if you read /var/log/Xorg.0.log    it may help, also try removing the boot options:   quiet splash    so you can watch the boot
[04:49] <BangBusRUs> Hey can i just ask one question to all the helpers in here please?
[04:49] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: Why would those help if I'm not getting to a point where the bootsplash info would even show up before it freezes?
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: I can suggest things, try less attitude
[04:49] <ikonia> BangBusRUs: if it's about ubuntu - sure
[04:49] <ikonia> BangBusRUs: if not, no
[04:49] <BangBusRUs> Do you guy's get paid?
[04:49] <ikonia> no
[04:49] <BangBusRUs> dang
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: if you tell the boot stuffs to not show, you may see the boot messages
[04:49] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: Well, quite honestly, I've explained exactly the same thing to you personally three times now and you keep giving advice that's entirely unrelated to actually addressing my issue.
[04:50] <BangBusRUs> you guys do a great job you should imho
[04:50] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: I DON'T GET TO THE POINT WHERE "BOOT STUFFS" SHOWS UP AT ALL.
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: you are having a boot issue so seeing the boot messages will be useful
[04:50] <Saeros> Maybe I could ask it one more time....   I just installed 11.10, and am using the gnome-classic environment.  I set up dual monitors/desktops (one a Acer 17" and one a 47" LG tv).  Once I got that working properly, I found two rows of menus at the top of the screen.  The first row is blank and the second has all the menus and time etc.  I'd like to remove that blank row, and have no idea how to do it.  Could someone help with that?
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: well you must as sshd starts
[04:50] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: I don't, that's what I've been telling you.
[04:51] <Logos01> The video output freezes *BEFORE* the GRUB menu shows up.
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: so the OS boots to some degree, just it isn;t being shown, the boot option removal will enable you to see what is going on
[04:51] <Logos01> Please actually read my described problems instead of giving half-cocked incompetent advice.
[04:51] <ikonia> Logos01: drop the attiude,
[04:51] <Logos01> ikonia: It would be easier if I didn't have to re-explain myself iteratively and still get people not understanding plain-language.
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: try it, it's free to try
[04:52] <ikonia> Logos01: you're not explaining it very well, that's why
[04:52] <ikonia> Logos01: try again, I'm paying full attention to you now
[04:52] <Logos01> ikonia: It's simple to understand. I explained it in exact language. Scroll up.
[04:52] <ikonia> Logos01: I don't have it in my buffer
[04:52] <Logos01>  My direct audiovideo output freezes at the GRUB error screen which has the lines "error:
[04:52] <Logos01>                  compression type 0x2 not supported. \n error: sparse file not allowed. \n \n Press any key to continue..." --
[04:53] <Logos01>                  and no keyboard input is acknowledged at all. No audio output is received by my speakers. *HOWEVER* -- it
[04:53] <Logos01>                  fully boots completely and I am able to remote desktop via NX and/or SSH into the box.
[04:53] <BangBusRUs> actionparsnip how do i check if it installed the thinkfinger tools?
[04:53] <FloodBot1> Logos01: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:53] <Logos01> ... that was originally one line. My apologies; irssi screwed up the CNP.
[04:53] <ikonia> Logos01: that's ot grub
[04:53] <Logos01> ikonia: Yes, actually, it is.
[04:53] <ikonia> ont
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: you will see it in the output of:  dpkg -l | grep finger
[04:53] <ikonia> ughh, "not"
[04:53] <Logos01> It's not the GRUB *menu* but I assure you it's GRUB.
[04:53]  * WebGoddess008 really likes XFCE *default* install...not much of a fan of xubuntu default install
[04:54] <BangBusRUs> i dont understand dpkg?
[04:54] <Safe_> Does it matter where I put grub on the hard drive if I have multiple partitions? Should I just put it in root, as in /dev/sdc, or in /dev/sdc6 (where ubuntu is)
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: you said you could SSH to the system, right>
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> Safe_: usually the mbr is used
[04:55] <SVNDR> Whats the difference between Ubuntu and Ubuntu 2D?
[04:55] <TrD> 1D
[04:55] <TrD> :p
[04:55] <aBound> You mean Unity 3D and Unity 2D?
[04:55] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: Yes, I can ssh in.
[04:55] <Safe_> ActionParsnip: Installing it now and need to select device for boot loader installation, mbr is not chooseable
[04:55] <Logos01> But the video out freezes up before I get to the GRUB menu.
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: ubuntu uses a 3D accellerated Unity with effects and junk. Unity2D uses metacity, is lighter and doesn't need 3d accelleration
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> Safe_: the MBR should be an option
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: so therefore the OS is booting and Grub is doing it;s thing
[04:56] <aBound> Macbuntu is pretty interesting.
[04:56] <Logos01> Yes.
[04:56] <Logos01> One would assume.
[04:57] <Sebastien> is it me or ubuntu server is no more free...
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: so the screen is being skewed by te boot splash which is having issues displaying. If you take that out you will boot in text mode which ANY hardware  can do
[04:57] <BangBusRUs> ii  libofa0                                0.9.3-3.1                               Library for acoustic fingerprinting
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: you can then see where it stops and what is goingon
[04:57] <Safe_> ActionParsnip: It really isn't though. Have multiple drives with multiple OS's and multiple partitions (yes, messy I know) so I figured I could just have grub on this hard drive
[04:57] <aBound> Ubuntu server is free.
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: then it's not installed
[04:57] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: who are youtalking to ?
[04:57] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: sorry, nt you
[04:57] <BangBusRUs> well how do i install it?
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> Safe_: that's fine, just tell the BIOS to boot that drive
[04:58] <BangBusRUs> I downloaded the package and installed it
[04:58] <ikonia> BangBusRUs: visit ubuntu.com and read
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: I gave a link, it has debs for a lot of architectures, grab the one matching yours
[04:58] <ikonia> BangBusRUs: what package
[04:58] <Safe_> ActionParsnip: That's what I had in mind, so do I put it in sdc or sdc6? :)
[04:58] <Saeros> Thanks
[04:58] <Sebastien> aBound why does it says its 300 something dollars.
[04:58] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: could that be the reason why some of my wine programs dont run so fast
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> Safe_: try it, you can always boot to live CD and put the boot loader  elsewhere there
[04:58] <ikonia> Sebastien: where on ubuntu.com does it say ubuntu server is$$300 ?
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: possibly
[04:59] <aBound> Sebastien, You must be looking at the other Ubuntu Servers the ones for business.
[04:59] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: cheers, i might try in 2D soon
[04:59] <geoffmcc> Sebastien: i forget what its called, but its some kind of cloud service ubuntu is offering for $$ now, but ubuntu server is still free
[04:59] <ikonia> there isn't one for business - it's the same
[04:59] <BangBusRUs> thinkfinger-tools_0.3+r118-0ubuntu5_i386
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: are you using 32bit ubuntu?
[04:59] <aBound> Sebastien, Ubuntu Advantage Advanced Server and such.
[04:59] <BangBusRUs> yes
[04:59] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: "so the screen is being skewed by te boot splash which is having issues displaying." <-- no.
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: sounds good then
[05:00] <Logos01> That *can't* be right, because it isn't *GETTING* to the bootsplash.
[05:00] <Logos01> It freezes before the GRUB menu shows up.
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: what is on screen during boot?
[05:00] <BangBusRUs> Well why isnt it installed then?
[05:00] <Logos01> The boot splash **cannot** interact with it.
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: it must get past grub or you wouldn't be able to ssh as the service wouldnt get started
[05:00] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: As I've said to you directly four times now, and about five times besides that, a GRUB error.
[05:00] <aBound> Sebastien, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/download
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: grub is succesful
[05:01] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: Yes, but that's where the error is occurring.
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: I don't get why you just won't try it, its a simple text file edit and one command
[05:01] <Logos01> Because that's where it freezes. BEFORE the GRUB menu comes up.
[05:01] <oneliner> grub->kernel->init->services ,.. if services then grub==true
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: it can't be as ssh starts
[05:01] <oneliner> then you cant ssh into a machine that hasent gotten past grub
[05:01] <Logos01> It has to be because that's where it's goddamned happening.
[05:02] <oneliner> cant :)
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: its not.   Goodbye.
[05:02] <geoffmcc> hmm
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> some people just won't be told
[05:02] <BangBusRUs> thinkfinger-tools_0.3+r118-0ubuntu5_i386 thats what i dl and installed
[05:03] <aBound> brb
[05:03] <oneliner> funny how we tend to criticise in others what we should remedy in ourselves :)
[05:04] <BangBusRUs> Okso how do i check if the thinkfinger tools got installed please???
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: double click the deb file...
[05:04] <BangBusRUs> i did
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: and was the process smooth?
[05:05] <n2diy> I just upgraded an Xubuntu 10.10 box to Ubuntu 11.10, and now Korganizer won't run. The Akonadi PIM service is not operational. I reinstalled both, but still no joy.
[05:05] <BangBusRUs> yes
[05:06] <edbian> Has anyone ever seen funny A.I.
[05:06] <ikonia> edbian: you know you're in #ubuntu right ?
[05:06] <edbian> ikonia, whooops!
[05:06] <edbian> :P
[05:06] <ikonia> :)
[05:06] <BangBusRUs> so how do i use it now?
[05:07] <bocbagock> Hello! Got an audio question
[05:07] <aBound> Good thing for 10.04 being stable.
[05:07] <bocbagock> I used a bluetooth headphone and afterwards my regular audio doesn't work anymore
[05:08] <bocbagock> (having stopped using the bluetooth headphones)
[05:10] <curran> anyone here have comcast and know a thing or two about networking?
[05:10] <ikonia> curran:
[05:11] <ikonia> curran:
[05:11] <ikonia> oop
[05:11] <curran> Trying to get my wireless modem to release dhcp through coax. line.
[05:11] <ikonia> curran: ##networking maybe a better place for general network chatter
[05:11] <curran> I don't get much help there.
[05:11] <curran> just looking for someone
[05:11] <ikonia> curran: we only deal with ubuntu here
[05:11] <curran> might know
[05:11] <curran> I'm using ubuntu
[05:12] <ikonia> curran: it's not an ubuntu issue
[05:12] <ikonia> curran: the people in ##networking explained what you needed to do at a high level, I suggest following up if you need more detail
[05:13] <curran> yeah, not accurate at all
[05:14] <curran> hence why I'm looking elsewhere
[05:14] <ikonia> it was fine
[05:14] <curran> nevermind I guess
[05:14] <ikonia> I suggest following up in there, this is for ubuntu support, not networking
[05:14] <bocbagock> any help on the bluetooth audio in ubuntu 11.10 question?
[05:14] <SVNDR> I only installed Ubuntu yesterday and i already have over 300 updates i need to do.. is that normal?
[05:14] <curran> yep
[05:15] <iceroot> SVNDR: because you installed a version from october 2011
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: which release?
[05:15] <|multipass|> is there a way to disable the panel on the top of the screen from capuring the current programs file, edit, etc-- and put i back on the actual application window?
[05:16] <SVNDR> iceroot and ActionParsnip: i installed 11.10
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: then you have 3 months of updates to install, so yes. If you throw on a lot of apps it will increase the packages you need to update
[05:16] <antipragmatist> Hi.
[05:17] <bocbagock> is there a better place to go for ubuntu audio questions?
[05:18] <iceroot> bocbagock: this channel is ok
[05:18] <mcgrete> My first time using freenode for support.  Not sure how and when to post question... don't wish to interrupt others...  Where can I find a 'how to' so that I play nice?
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> mcgrete: ask away, if anyone can answer, they will
[05:18] <bocbagock> iceroot: so I just got some bluetooth headphones, set them up, disconnected and I can't get audio back through the speakers
[05:18] <bocbagock> I've restarted
[05:18] <iceroot> mcgrete: just fell free to post your questions here, a good idea is to put the question in one line with usefull details, also put the name on front if you are talking to someone
[05:19] <iceroot> bocbagock: have a look at "alsamixer" is something is muted
[05:19] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: Wouldnt the updates download with the ISO or is that not how it works?.. new to Ubuntu by the way
[05:19] <bocbagock> iceroot: did that, nothing was muted