[12:13] <soulrider> install libxine-extracodecs
[12:15] <sstchur> Is there anything besides knetworkmanager that can be used to aid in connecting to wpa secured wireless networks?  All the other GUIs I try, only have options for WEP
[12:19] <sercik> !envy
[12:19] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[12:19] <tuxd> Hi.  New to Linux.  Running Fiesty Kubuntu.  Amarok has libraries to play MP3's, plays them from folder on home/user/music, but "Build A Collection" is not working. It recognises iPOD & plays songs from it, but won't move to collection.  Read steps in Amarok "Quick Start Guide", & after going to Collection Browser, clicking on configure, selecting folders, and clicking "OK", nothing happens.  Please help.  Thanks
[12:19] <tuxd> [14:58]  <tuxd> Also, Amaraok is 1.4.5, KDE 3.5.6
[12:19] <marko> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-es/attachments/20051202/4abe3cb1/ubuntu_5.11.jpg
[12:19] <marko> :P
[12:20] <tuxd> Not sure what engine is, but came standard with Fiesty Kubuntu
[12:21] <Pensacola> it would be great if the sysinfo:/ thing would be included in the next kubuntu release
[12:21] <Pensacola> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/KIO+Slave+sysinfo%3A%2B+for+PCLinuxOS+2007?content=59472&PHPSESSID=bcb7bd0596986519bb55bd650c5cc611
[12:23] <Kr4t05> Is there a quick and easy way to refresh my RAM without rebooting?
[12:24] <RawSewage> you can restart X
[12:24] <RawSewage> also, I suggest changing the default Sessions setting
[12:25] <RawSewage> to Start with Empty Session
[12:25] <RawSewage> I hate the default.  The default picks up garbage processes over time, and your system gets all slow
[12:25] <RawSewage> because it keeps loading everything from the past
[12:25] <Kr4t05> RawSewage: I don't like starting with an empty session though. Having Konversation, Beryl and Amarok start up for me is nice.
[12:25] <RawSewage> Kr4t05, just add those to your AutoStart folder
[12:26] <Kr4t05> Oh, yeah...
[12:26] <RawSewage> an easy way to do that is go to the folder, then drag the app from your Start menu into it and copy
[12:28] <andres> alguien me puede explicar como hago para configurar un firewall en kubuntu feisty fawn??
[12:29] <Kr4t05> !es | andres
[12:30] <ubotu> andres: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:30] <hunfa> can someone help me please?
[12:30] <alexandre> andres_ you should speak in English.. xD
[12:30] <hunfa> i need more sources for new programs
[12:30] <hunfa> how do i add new ones?
[12:31] <sercik> kubuntu search for trevino sources.list
[12:31] <alexandre> hunfa: you only need to edit.. the sources.list if you talking abou it...
[12:31] <Tailsfan> What is a good multimedia program that can recognize iPod videos?
[12:31] <sercik> and you'll find many sources to add
[12:32] <alexandre> Tailfsfan mplayer,vlc, kaffeine... I think all theese thres does...
[12:32] <hunfa> how?
[12:32] <Kr4t05> hunfa: Becareful about adding third-party repositories.
[12:32] <Tailsfan> I meant straight from teh iPod
[12:32] <Tailsfan> They're in my iPod from iTunes on Windows
[12:32] <hunfa> ok
[12:33] <hunfa> where can i find sources.list?
[12:33] <Tailsfan> Any Ideas?
[12:33] <darkrift> anyone know of a good ocr program?
[12:33] <Kr4t05> !EasySource | hunfa
[12:33] <ubotu> hunfa: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:33] <darkrift> i have bmp's of an ebook i made and i need run ocr on it
[12:37] <hunfa> i opened the site
[12:37] <hunfa> and chose my kubuntu version
[12:38] <hunfa> then i pressed the "create sources.list"
[12:38] <hunfa> now what should i do?
[12:39] <SeanTater> My cursor vaporized and I can't seem to get it back. What should I try?
[12:41] <darkrift> nobody? :(
[12:43] <Tailsfan> Hey also, Why does Amarok freeze for whenever it asks for MP3 Support
[12:48] <jarn> I created an executable that runs another command, only if I try to run the executable from the Run Command dialog it opens up a shell and runs it in there so I can only run it from the command line. Is there a way to make it so it can be run through Run Command?
[12:51] <shadowhywind> what is the correct line i should add to my fstab to mount a vfat partition with read/write for all users?
[12:54] <tuxd> Hi. I'm new to Linux. I'm running Feisty Kubuntu, and have current updates for all the programs I am running. I installed everything to get it to play mp3's correctly, and my iPOD is detected & can play songs in Amarock. The problem I am having is in Building A Collection. I know it sounds retarded. Intially I tried to move mp3's from the iPOD (by highlighting one artist, right-clicking, and selecting "Copy files to collection")
[12:54] <tuxd> and it gave a message saying "You need to configure at least one folder for your collection for organizing your files". I've been reading the "Quick Start Guide" and it says go to Collection Browser (check), then Click the Configure Folders Button located in toolbar (check; the one that looks like a Hammer and Wrench criss-crossing and says "Configure Folders" if you hover your mouse over it), then select which folders you would
[12:54] <tuxd> like to have your collection made from (check; I created a folder under my user, i.e. home/user/music and have selected this.) Then it says you can check some boxes and then click "OK". (check). Nothing happens after I click "OK". It says there should be an initial scan and it doesn't appear to do one. There are no files showing in the collection browser window. There are some mp3's in the home/user/music folder I loaded manually
[12:54] <tuxd> via a usb pen drive to the folder so it would have something to grab, but there is nothing for a collection in Amarock. It seems like the Build A Collection feature is just plain not working. Help please. Thanks.
[12:55] <Tailsfan> !mp4
[12:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:56] <PhinnFort> tuxd was very patient
[12:56] <Chris_> yeah
[12:56] <Chris_> I was just about to answer him... after reading all of his messages..
[12:56] <PhinnFort> probably found out that it worked after he had set up a folder;)
[12:56] <PhinnFort> *all of his _long_ messages
[12:57] <Chris_> yeah, or he discovered drag&drop to add music files to the ipod
[12:57] <PhinnFort> ;)
[12:57] <PhinnFort> dnd ftw
[12:57] <Chris_> is anyone here who can help me with kdialog?
[12:57] <PhinnFort> Chris_: maybe?
[12:58] <PhinnFort> elaborate, and I might be able to help you
[12:58] <Chris_> I'm wondering if it's possible to have clickable links in passive popups
[12:59] <PhinnFort> shadowhywind: look at "man:fstab" or "man:mount" in konqueror
[12:59] <PhinnFort> Chris_: tried with html messages?
[01:00] <PhinnFort> Chris_: kdialog --error 'lol' seems to work
[01:00] <Chris_> yes, if I include html links, then they are parsed and shown as links, but nothing happens when you click on them
[01:00] <PhinnFort> hum
[01:00] <PhinnFort> Chris_: maybe ask the devs in #kde
[01:01] <Chris_> okay, thanks!
[01:01] <PhinnFort> np
[01:02] <Tailsfan> How do I add MP4 Support>
[01:03] <PhinnFort> !mp4
[01:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:03] <PhinnFort> ?
[01:03] <PhinnFort> Tailsfan: I think I have it
[01:03] <PhinnFort> !info xine-extracodecs
[01:03] <ubotu> Package xine-extracodecs does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[01:03] <PhinnFort> !info libxine-extracodecs
[01:03] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, transitional package. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 38 kB, installed size 68 kB
[01:03] <PhinnFort> Tailsfan: do you have that installed?
[01:04] <Tailsfan> Not Yet, II need XMMS fo rthat right?
[01:04] <PhinnFort> Tailsfan: uhm, no?
[01:04] <Tailsfan> Because I was trying to use AmarroK to play MP4s and MP3s
[01:04] <PhinnFort> Tailsfan: that package add lots of codecs to xine, which is used by kaffeine, amarok, etc.
[01:05] <Ace2016> hi all
[01:05] <Ace2016> what html editor do you use in linux???
[01:05] <PhinnFort> Tailsfan: XINE is a multimedia framework, and Amarok includes a music playing engine that uses XINE to play music files
[01:05] <PhinnFort> Ace2016: Kate
[01:05] <PhinnFort> Ace2016: but I've heard much good about Quanta Plus too
[01:06] <PhinnFort> !info quanta | Ace2016
[01:06] <ubotu> ace2016: quanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2382 kB, installed size 5728 kB
[01:06] <Ace2016> I'm thinking more about a gui based editor
[01:06] <PhinnFort> Ace2016: Kate is GUI
[01:07] <PhinnFort> So is Quanta Plus, I might add
[01:07] <PhinnFort> if you want WYSIWYG, use OpenOffice Writer or KWord
[01:07] <PhinnFort> or NVU
[01:07] <Ace2016> never knew you could use oo to make a website
[01:07] <PhinnFort> Ace2016: it can export to HTML, afaik
[01:08] <hitmanWilly> Ace2016, just about any text editor can be used to make a website :P
[01:08] <PhinnFort> anyways, if you're serious about web design, you should learn HTML
[01:08] <PhinnFort> it's very easy
[01:09] <Ace2016> programming is higher on the list of things to learn at the mo
[01:10] <PhinnFort> html isn't programming imho
[01:10] <hitmanWilly> ditto
[01:10] <PhinnFort> :P
[01:10] <Ace2016> i mean like qt4
[01:10] <adz21c> html isn't programming, its data
[01:10] <hitmanWilly> im not even sure if it qualifies as a scripting lang...
[01:11] <Arwen> god fscking damn it I fscking hate ATI...
[01:11] <PhinnFort> Arwen: AMEN!
[01:11] <Ace2016> lol
[01:11] <OhMyAudi> Hi all.  I have my panel arranged at the bottom of my screen like OSX.  I'm looking for some sort of separator to go inbetween my trash can and the rest of my icons.  Any advice?
[01:11] <hitmanWilly> lol
[01:11] <PhinnFort> well, if you want an easy and pretty webpage, use a CMS
[01:12] <Linux_Galore> Arwen: AMD have promised to make ATi drivers FOSS later this year
[01:12] <Arwen> OhMyAudi, try the "separator" applet
[01:12] <PhinnFort> OhMyAudi: can't you just move them aroun
[01:12] <PhinnFort> d
[01:12] <Ace2016> OhMyAudi: create an icon and for the icon's image use a separator like image
[01:12] <Arwen> Linux_Galore, yeah, and I call BS
[01:12] <Arwen> besides, being F/OSS won't fix the fact that they suck
[01:12] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: well, it wouldn't be first time someone promised better ATI drivers
[01:12] <OhMyAudi> Arwen: Where is the separator applet?
[01:12] <Arwen> OhMyAudi, no idea? :-)
[01:12] <OhMyAudi> wow
[01:12] <OhMyAudi> Okay.
[01:12] <PhinnFort> Arwen: it might allow those sitting on source code supporting next gen ati cards release it
[01:12] <Linux_Galore> Arwen: we can but wait and see, Im sticking with intel for now, Im waiting for some cheap laptops with i965 chipsets
[01:13] <PhinnFort> ati is currently blocking it
[01:13] <AutoMatriX> Hello
[01:13] <OhMyAudi> Ace2016:  Thanks, I had a similar idea, but was wondering if there were any official solutions.
[01:13] <Arwen> Linux_Galore, X3500 GMA is where it's at :-)
[01:13] <OhMyAudi> Thanks all
[01:13] <PhinnFort> OhMyAudi: why do you need a separator?
[01:13] <PhinnFort> darn
[01:13] <PhinnFort> kicker allows you to move stuff freely around
[01:13] <soulrider> !ati
[01:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:14] <PhinnFort> !fsckati
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsckati - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <hitmanWilly> i dont think there is a seperator applet in kicker...
[01:14] <Linux_Galore> Arwen: yeah, I can see Intel doing some damage to both AMD(ATi) and Nvidia market if they make a half way decent FOSS video chipset
[01:14] <PhinnFort> hitmanWilly: because you don't need one...
[01:14] <Arwen> Linux_Galore, hell no. Intel doesn't even compete with NVIDIA and ATI
[01:14] <Ace2016> PhinnFort: can't control where the taslbar ends, it always goes as far as whatever the next thing is
[01:14] <PhinnFort> Arwen:
[01:14] <PhinnFort> Arwen: well, I for one will go with integrated intel graphics on my next laptop
[01:15] <Linux_Galore> Arwen: actually Intel outsells both added together right now
[01:15] <Arwen> Linux_Galore, but Intel doesn't *compete* with them
[01:15] <PhinnFort> Ace2016: is that bad...?
[01:15] <Arwen> Intel targets the low end market where ATI and NVIDIA sell *competent* video cards.
[01:15] <PhinnFort> Arwen: they might as well, their drivers are excellent;)
[01:15] <Ace2016> PhinnFort: yes its annoying
[01:15] <PhinnFort> I don't need anything more than what the intel cards provides, but then again I'm not a hardcore gamer
[01:15] <Linux_Galore> Arwen: beginning with the i965 it will, built in shader support and multi channel
[01:16] <PhinnFort> I would at least be able to play Glest with Intel
[01:16] <PhinnFort> (compared to now, where everything is gray)
[01:16] <Arwen> "hardcore gamer" - I hate that phrase. I've not yet seen any *real* game that will play without at least a midrange video card
[01:16] <PhinnFort> Arwen: PPRacer?
[01:16] <Arwen> Linux_Galore, yeah, but it'll be handicapped by the shared memory requirement..
[01:16] <Arwen> PhinnFort, *real*
[01:16] <Arwen> I could play that with software rendering
[01:17] <PhinnFort> Arwen: :D
[01:17] <PhinnFort> Arwen: well, then I'm not a "real" gamer
[01:17] <PhinnFort> :P
[01:17] <Arwen> bah, all I play is Nexuiz.... and that doesn't run too well on Intel.
[01:17] <SlimeyPete> there are lots of real gam which run without a decent card. Anything released before this year, for a start ;)
[01:17] <Arwen> and Nexuiz is far from state-of-art
[01:17] <hitmanWilly> Arwen is talking about quake, unreal, etc, i do believe
[01:17] <Arwen> ^^
[01:18] <PhinnFort> well, I have Nexuiz installed
[01:18] <Linux_Galore> Arwen: as long as beryl works Im happy, I prefere consoles for games as they are released earlier than the PC now
[01:18] <Arwen> Unreal doesn't actually take too much power, has a software engine even
[01:18] <PhinnFort> mesa?
[01:18] <Arwen> Linux_Galore, you just can't play an FPS on a console..
[01:18] <Arwen> PhinnFort, no, internal software renderer
[01:18] <PhinnFort> agreed
[01:18] <PhinnFort> ah, ok
[01:18] <hitmanWilly> but UT04 on a 7900 nvidia card running 64 bit is just AWESOME!!!!
[01:18] <SlimeyPete> you can generally get mie & keyboards for consoles these days.
[01:18] <Minataku> Halo fans seem to be pretty happy with console FPSs
[01:18] <SlimeyPete> and the wiimote is OK for FPS
[01:19] <Linux_Galore> Arwen: can on the PS3 it supports vector, most PC's cant render vector
[01:19] <Arwen> Minataku, because they've never played anything else...
[01:19] <soulrider> !ati > gon
[01:19] <Arwen> Linux_Galore, *mouse and keyboard*
[01:19] <Minataku> But then I'm not much for FPSs
[01:19] <mindslant> so I sudo got beryl in the terminal.  then I typed beryl...then my screen went into a solid color.  Any suggestions on how to get beryl working now that I"ve restarted?
[01:19] <Linux_Galore> Arwen: you can use a mouse an keypad with both the XBOX and PS3 now
[01:19] <Arwen> anyway, we're digressing
[01:19] <Minataku> I'm a racing gamer first and foremost
[01:19] <OhMyAudi> Hey all I'm debating switching back to windows
[01:20] <Minataku> TPSs next, maybe
[01:20] <OhMyAudi> I think I need windows therapy
[01:20] <PhinnFort> OhMyAudi: oh so exciting
[01:20] <hitmanWilly> !windows | OhMyAudi
[01:20] <ubotu> OhMyAudi: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[01:20] <Arwen> Linux_Galore, yeah..... or you could just play FPS games on a PC...
[01:20] <OhMyAudi> lol
[01:20] <zipper> SlimeyPete: while yes, you can get mouse+keyboard, they dont work as well as they do on a PC. The pitch is locked, so you cant do "flick" movements.
[01:20] <mindslant> ohmyaudi, linus himself in an hour long speech at google said he used what worked best.  best is up to you
[01:20] <Linux_Galore> Arwen: Im sending email on my PS3 heh
[01:21] <Arwen> bah
[01:21] <OhMyAudi> Okay okay, I'm feeling more like linux again.  Thanks all
[01:21] <PhinnFort> Fallout 2 plays just as well on Intel as on my ATi
[01:21] <Minataku> PS3... the total failure of the bunch
[01:21] <PhinnFort> XD
[01:21] <Minataku> Talk about the dumbest choice you could make
[01:21] <Arwen> PhinnFort, Fallout? lol
[01:21] <PhinnFort> Arwen: <3 fallout <3
[01:21] <zipper> sigh, the fanboyism hit this channel too? =(
[01:21] <PhinnFort> and Fallout 3 is coming soon
[01:21] <Arwen> speaking of old games, I need to scrounge a copy of starcraft..
[01:21] <PhinnFort> zipper: since when didn't it contaminate every channel?
[01:22] <OhMyAudi> Oh i do have a question actually.  if I've tried to install something via a script and the install was unsuccessful, how can I remove the junk (delete what was put into my system prior to install failure)?
[01:22] <Linux_Galore> I have xfce running on the PS3, it allot faster than I expected
[01:22] <mindslant> can anyone help me with beryl?
[01:22] <PhinnFort> !beryl | mindslant
[01:22] <ubotu> mindslant: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:22] <Arwen> OhMyAudi, by examining the script and trying to guess what it did?
[01:22] <zipper> PS3 is expensive, big, ugly and lacks a lot of things. However, it is THE most powerful thing out there + it can run linux. Thats gotta count for something
[01:22] <PhinnFort> OhMyAudi: make uninstall, maybe
[01:22] <Arwen> OhMyAudi, basically, you're fux0r3d
[01:22] <Minataku> zipper: You'd think that, but it doesn't.
[01:22] <OhMyAudi> Arwen, what is with you and the answering questions with questions
[01:22] <Minataku> It's a game console
[01:22] <Arwen> zipper, actually, it's outperformed by modern PCs.
[01:22] <OhMyAudi> Arwen, are you really alex trabeck?
[01:22] <Minataku> It shouldn't need to run Linux, really.
[01:22] <Linux_Galore> PS3 as a Linux render farm is amazing though
[01:23] <PhinnFort> you tell me
[01:23] <zipper> Arwen: outperformed, yes.  You could just as easily write optimized code for a PC...
[01:23] <Linux_Galore> add 3 x PS3 + Linux cluster and you have real time vector rendering
[01:23] <Arwen> anyway, WE'RE DIGRESSING
[01:23] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: we have real time vector rendering in Qt 4
[01:24] <PhinnFort> on PC's, I might add;)
[01:24] <zipper> Arwen: if you knew the exact specifications of the PC, yes, you could. However, you never know such details. PC users have a wide range of different setups.
[01:24] <PhinnFort> !offtopic | PhinnFort
[01:24] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: not in full 3D on a PC, it wont have the grunt
[01:24] <Arwen> zipper, bah
[01:24] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: I think you're mixing concepts, or I don't grasp them;)
[01:25] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: why wouldn't a pc be able to display vectors in 3 dimensions (in fullscreen)?
[01:25] <SlimeyPete> surely polygons are essentially vectors?
[01:25] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: most people think as vector rendering on a single plane, Im talking pure 3D with a few thousand planes in real time
[01:25] <PhinnFort> eggzactly
[01:26] <zipper> Arwen: "bah" or not, its still one of the consoles' greatest features. Not being able to chose hardware that is.
[01:26] <Arwen> Linux_Galore, that's called a Vector Processing Unit. We have those in PCs too...
[01:26] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: hum, most games have several hundreds/thousand planes, already
[01:26] <njt88> is it possible to watch .wmv movies in kaffeine without glitches? I'm a feisty newbie. Cheers in advance!
[01:26] <Arwen> zipper, lockin is never a feature...
[01:26] <PhinnFort> njt88: depends on your cpu, i guess
[01:26] <PhinnFort> njt88: what video card do you have?
[01:26] <Arwen> njt88, um, yes?
[01:26] <Arwen> lol
[01:26] <intelikey> i'm getting an odd script error   can anyone tell me what it's saying  """ script.sh: 14: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting "}")
[01:27] <Arwen> intelikey, your script is malformed, pastebin it
[01:27] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: yeah but they dont render the whole lot in vector only set parts
[01:27] <_4strO> !codecs | njt88
[01:27] <zipper> Arwen: not locked, just pre-defined. And no, i agree, "feature" was not the right word for it - one of their greatest strenghts then.
[01:27] <ubotu> njt88: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:27] <PhinnFort> intelikey: you forgot to close some brackets?
[01:27] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: erh... they only render what's on screen
[01:27] <PhinnFort> anything else would be useless
[01:27] <Arwen> njt88, you have any problems specifically?
[01:27] <intelikey> PhinnFort mmm maybe.   but it works as #!/bin/bash  but not as #!/bin/dash
[01:28] <PhinnFort> blargh... /me no like dash
[01:28] <intelikey> so it's some bashism that i missed.
[01:28] <PhinnFort> maybe bash is more forgiving?
[01:28] <njt88> Arwen: just keeps glitching every 10ish seconds and screen goes green often
[01:28] <PhinnFort> paste it?
[01:28] <PhinnFort> njt88: what kind of gfx card do you have?
[01:28] <Arwen> njt88, huh, that sounds like a decoding problem - are you using w32codecs?
[01:28] <Minataku> You're completely ignoring the fact that the PS3 was designed solely to sell Sony's latest failure format Blu-Ray, itself an overpriced load of bullcrap designed purely to be DRM'd up the wazoo
[01:28] <Arwen> PhinnFort, what's his graphics card have to do with this?
[01:29] <PhinnFort> Arwen: tried playing video with VESA?
[01:29] <Linux_Galore> Ive learnt one thing in the last few days, kmail is far from enterprise ready until the developers stop thinking html is evil
[01:29] <Arwen> PhinnFort, lol
[01:29] <sudoman> join #cedega
[01:29] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: hum, iloveyou?
[01:29] <PhinnFort> sudoman: why?
[01:29] <Arwen> PhinnFort, can't be worse than using VGA fbdev..
[01:29] <PhinnFort> ;P
[01:29] <sudoman> jeje :-P
[01:29] <PhinnFort> sadoman
[01:29] <njt88> phinnfort: it's a Nvidia nForce4 6600gt
[01:29] <Minataku> Green, eh?
[01:30] <PhinnFort> njt88: have you installed the nvidia drivers?
[01:30] <Linux_Galore> well I want to recommend kmail as a solution to enterprise level users but I cant
[01:30] <Minataku> njt88: Sounds like decryption errors
[01:30] <Arwen> PhinnFort, the nv driver supports 2d accel...
[01:30] <Arwen> so that's not the problem
[01:30] <Arwen> njt88, oh yeah, is the WMV DRM'ed?
[01:30] <gon> !ati
[01:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:30] <PhinnFort> Arwen: motion compensation etc, too?
[01:30] <Arwen> PhinnFort, yes
[01:30] <Linux_Galore> kontact is a great rig ruined by kmail
[01:30] <SlimeyPete> geforce cards do xv in software, anyway
[01:30] <PhinnFort> Linuxh
[01:30] <Minataku> It's a DVD, Arwen
[01:30] <njt88> phinnfort: I believe so. My mate did it for me
[01:30] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: how so?
[01:30] <PhinnFort> njt88: ah, ok
[01:30] <Minataku> But it still sounds like the same thing
[01:30] <Arwen> Minataku, DVDs aren't encoded with WMV..
[01:31] <Minataku> Arwen: They're still encrypted
[01:31] <PhinnFort> DVDCSS
[01:31] <PhinnFort> !dvd
[01:31] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:31] <Minataku> It's possible his system isn't keeping up
[01:31] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: kmail doesnt support many of the most basic html option in the compose mode and the spam filter is too complex
[01:31] <Arwen> PhinnFort, ....try actually reading what we're saying
[01:31] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: wtf uses html in enterprise settings?
[01:31] <Arwen> Minataku, that doesn't explain the green
[01:31] <Minataku> And every 10 seconds or so runs out of decrypted content and falls back
[01:31] <Minataku> Just a guess
[01:31] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: everyone I deal with at a company level right now
[01:32] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: and the spam is supposed to be filtered out with the companies mail servers
[01:32] <Arwen> damn, fglrx doesn't support XvMC... oh well
[01:32] <PhinnFort> *@
[01:32] <Minataku> It could also be an xv issue, too, as mentioned
[01:32] <njt88> was running windows until about a month ago and the same .wmv files played well. I am suspecting it's a codec problem
[01:32] <Minataku> njt88: Oh, they ARE WMVs, sorry
[01:32] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: exactly what do you miss in the html editing?
[01:32] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: I agree but not everyone will be using the PC at work some use it at home and have their own email service provider
[01:32] <Minataku> njt88: They're probably encrypted
[01:32] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37316   slow response
[01:32] <Arwen> njt88, ok, so, like I said, did you install the w32codecs package?
[01:32] <Minataku> DRMv1 or DRMv2
[01:32] <Arwen> and yeah, are they DRMed?
[01:32] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: well, then it's not in an enterprise setting, is it?
[01:33] <Sloik> I have a mobility radeon... the fglrx drivers don't seem to be working with it... what's the problem?
[01:33] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: for starters "no text hyperlinking"
[01:33] <intelikey> PhinnFort  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37316
[01:33] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: also, have you tried to use the wizard?
[01:33] <Arwen> !notworking | Sloik
[01:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about notworking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <Minataku> In which case you need some piece of software and, unfortunately, a working Windows PC
[01:33] <njt88> Arwen: no, I don't think they're install. Where can I get'em?
[01:33] <Arwen> !doesn't work | Sloik
[01:33] <ubotu> Sloik: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[01:33] <Minataku> :P
[01:33] <Arwen> !medibuntu | njt88
[01:33] <ubotu> njt88: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[01:33] <mindslant> howdy.  I got an ati radeon xpress 200m graphics card, how do I install teh driver for it
[01:33] <Arwen> follow those instructions and then do "apt-get install w32codecs"
[01:33] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: yes, it doesnt work very well and needs some manual setting up to work 100%
[01:33] <Linux_Galore> @ spam filter
[01:33] <Sloik> Well when I installed the fglrx drivers, X server refused to start.
[01:34] <Minataku> What you should do with encrypted WMVs is delete them angrily and tell whoever/whereever you got them from to go suck on a sewer pipe
[01:34] <Arwen> Sloik, did it print any errors?
[01:34] <intelikey> Arwen what bashism did i miss in this  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37316  ?
[01:34] <PhinnFort> intelikey: the while thingy in brackets?
[01:34] <Minataku> And not a rainwater sewer
[01:34] <Sloik> Not that I could see... it really just showed the kubuntu logo.
[01:34] <PhinnFort> intelikey: also try in #bash
[01:34] <Minataku> A sanitary sewer
[01:34] <Minataku> The kind that carries poop
[01:34] <njt88> Arwwen: ubotu: Phinnfort: thanks I'll try installing that package and see how I get on!
[01:34] <PhinnFort> njt88: yw
[01:34] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: it worked perfectly here after running the wizard
[01:34] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: good example in Thunderbird there is a nice setup for Insert Link.  He doesn't want to use bash anymore.
[01:37] <Minataku> For some bizarro reason
[01:37] <Minataku> Though Bizarro would explain it
[01:37] <intelikey> because bash has become bloated and is no longer full posix compliant
[01:37] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: right now I get 1 email per 2,000 odd spam from a filtered account so Im not that fussy, Im just saying the kmail setup is very convoluted compared to thunderbirds
[01:37] <Minataku> intelikey: Try it with /bin/sh
[01:38] <Arwen> Minataku, /bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/dash
[01:38] <Minataku> What!?
[01:38] <intelikey> Minataku yes
[01:38] <Minataku> Dumbass distro
[01:38] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: I haven't tried Thunderbird, but all I know is that i've never met someone who has complained about the lack of HTML editing features in an enterprise setting;)
[01:38] <Minataku> It's supposed to be a symlink to /bin/bash which runs it in old-style sh compat mode
[01:38] <PhinnFort> Minataku: /bin/sh is supposed to link to a POSIX compliant shell, which DASH is
[01:39] <intelikey> exactly
[01:39] <Minataku> bash in compat mode is also POSIX compliant
[01:39] <PhinnFort> Minataku: but it's slow
[01:39] <Arwen> say, in what way is BASH not POSIX-compliant?
[01:39] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: but there's replacements for KMail too, but I dunno how integrated it is
[01:39] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: were I work we do allot of marketing and support via email, we embed the external documentation within the text rather than spam the users inbox with attachments
[01:39] <Minataku> I'm gonna go play videogames
[01:39] <intelikey> bash in compat mode also accepts all that "bashism" that is breaking scripts.
[01:39] <PhinnFort> :D
[01:39] <hikaricore> lol
[01:40] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: also many companies dont allow attachments
[01:40] <Arwen> hah
[01:40] <pagan0ne> anyonw know a good program to convert a .vod bile into a standard mpeg or avi file under kununtu?
[01:40] <pagan0ne> .vob file, sorry
[01:40] <Arwen> pagan0ne, no, there are no programs to convert bile
[01:40] <Arwen> :-P
[01:40] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: well, all images in mails, even the html document itself, is encoded attachments
[01:40] <Minataku> pagan0ne: That's a DVD "Video OBject"
[01:40] <PhinnFort> more or less
[01:40] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: kmail method of having a 40 character link in the email is dumb
[01:40] <Minataku> You'll want to rip the DVD instead
[01:40] <pagan0ne> lol, give me a break, i just bought a new keyboard...
[01:40] <Arwen> pagan0ne, also, a "standard" *AVI*? Um......
[01:40] <Minataku> Since the VOB isn't gonna be what you want
[01:41] <PhinnFort> try K3B
[01:41] <Minataku> !dvd
[01:41] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:41] <hikaricore> Though you can directly play vob in most media players
[01:41] <pagan0ne> Minataku: i dont have the dvd, its just a couple of vob files
[01:41] <intelikey> i'd really like to find some good DASH documentation   it's man page is a unix bash leftover
[01:41] <hikaricore> pirate!
[01:41] <Minataku> pagan0ne: Then you're probably screwed
[01:41] <Arwen> pagan0ne, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=273635
[01:41] <hikaricore> rofl
[01:41] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: I dont send images because all that is already on our servers that the customer can hyperlink to if they wish
[01:41] <Arwen> you'll end up with a Matroska instead of an AVI, but it'll still be better than having a cruddy VOB lying around
[01:42] <pagan0ne> hikaricore: well its a doctor who season 1 box set, its not avalable for purchase here in the states, and i need my who fix
[01:42] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: well, try Mailody;)
[01:42] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: and file a bug at bugs.kde.org
[01:42] <Arwen> pagan0ne, alternatively, you could just play the vob directly
[01:42] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: or ask in #kde, if you're lucky one of the KMail devs are online and now afk
[01:42] <Minataku> pagan0ne: You're likely to be missing part of it
[01:42] <Minataku> Like, all the audio
[01:42] <pagan0ne> yes, but vob files are huge
[01:42] <Minataku> I don't believe VOBs carry audio
[01:42] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: the hyperlink bug has been there for ages, the kmail people hate html its even in the manual
[01:42] <intelikey> PhinnFort you don't know off hand of any dash docs do you ?
[01:43] <Arwen> Minataku, they do
[01:43] <pagan0ne> Minataku: if i play the file directly, it has audio etc, it is basicaly a direct rip off the dvd, only not in iso format
[01:43] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: well, I don't say I disagree with their opinion on it
[01:43] <Arwen> pagan0ne, did you even read my link?
[01:43] <Minataku> Fair enough
[01:43] <Minataku> I've been wrong before ;3
[01:43] <pagan0ne> Arwen: im getting to it, its active in here
[01:43] <hikaricore> imagine that
[01:43] <hikaricore> I was wrong once too
[01:43] <hikaricore> a long time ago
[01:43] <hikaricore> heh
[01:43] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: yes but for me it just means you are trying to dictate feature sets based on faulty opinion, you may as well just become Microsoft
[01:44] <Arwen> hikaricore, don't use enter as punctuation :-)
[01:44] <Minataku> s/once/many\ times/
[01:44] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: :D
[01:44] <Minataku> s/a\ long\ time\ ago/most\ of\ the\ time/
[01:44] <PhinnFort> intelikey: no, sorry
[01:44] <Minataku> j/k
[01:44] <Minataku> XD
[01:44] <hikaricore> :P
[01:45] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: basically the #kde guys say put a 40 character link in the email, to me that just very messy
[01:45] <PhinnFort> tell them that, then
[01:45] <Minataku> BTW, sorry everyone for getting a bit angry earlier, didn't mean to be fighting anyone X3
[01:45] <pagan0ne> Arwen: i think your link is what i needed, thanks
[01:45] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: I did they called me a troll
[01:45] <PhinnFort> Minataku: what did you do to cool yourself down;)
[01:45] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: hum, how did you say it?
[01:45] <Minataku> PhinnFort: Nothing
[01:45] <PhinnFort> :P
[01:45] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: they are officially morons now in my books
[01:46] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: well, did you try mailody?
[01:46] <Minataku> I cool down after a bit of time
[01:46] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: it only supports imap, though
[01:46] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: we use pop and imap
[01:46] <njt88> Arwen: sorry to bothrer you. Tried d.loading medibuntu and running apt-get install w32 codecs but response was E: couldn't find pakage w32. any ideas?
[01:46] <Minataku> What about good 'ol sendmail?
[01:47] <Arwen> njt88, 1 word
[01:47] <PhinnFort> njt88: no space
[01:47] <Arwen> "w32codecs"
[01:47] <Linux_Galore> our email server is exim on a freebsd machine
[01:47] <intelikey> sendmail is good    fetchmail is...   well it works.
[01:47] <njt88> Arwen: ok thanks i'll try that
[01:47] <PhinnFort> pine
[01:47] <Minataku> Pine and Pico <3
[01:47] <Linux_Galore> mutt
[01:48] <hikaricore> pico ftw
[01:48] <Minataku> And it's F/OSS reimplementation, nano
[01:48] <intelikey> heh  pico   the symlink to nano
[01:48] <Minataku> The best f*cking editor ever
[01:48] <PhinnFort> NANO NANO NANO
[01:48] <Linux_Galore> makes emacs look almost sane (@ mutt)
[01:48] <PhinnFort> <3 Nano <3
[01:48] <Linux_Galore> pffft vim
[01:48] <hikaricore> pico sounds more spanish, making it hawter than nano
[01:48] <pagan0ne> me love NANO
[01:48] <Minataku> RMS is an alien with 37 fingers... on each hand
[01:48] <njt88> Arewn: already the newset version. MUst be something else. NEvermind I'll ask my mate and see what he thinks. Thanks for your help, dude ^_^
[01:48] <intelikey> !editor_war
[01:48] <hikaricore> ^_^
[01:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about editor_war - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <Minataku> That's the only way you can use emacs
[01:48] <PhinnFort> I used to use VIM, for about thirthy seconds, until someone told me about nano
[01:48] <Dragnslcr> Nano is damn nice
[01:48] <Linux_Galore> Ive used vim for years so Im biased
[01:48] <Kr4t05> Gee, I kinda wish Kiba-Dock wouldn't crash every two minutes... >>
[01:48] <pagan0ne> rofl @ Minataku
[01:48] <PhinnFort> !nano
[01:48] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[01:48] <PhinnFort> <3 KAAAAAAAAAATE!
[01:49] <Ace2016> yea nano is easy
[01:49] <Minataku> nano actually edits
[01:49] <Dragnslcr> Keyboard controls should never be 8 keystrokes (vim)
[01:49] <PhinnFort> edline
[01:49] <pagan0ne> nano is friendly, easy, useful, and doesnt get in the way
[01:49] <Dragnslcr> And emacs isn't a text editor, it's an entire operating system
[01:49] <PhinnFort> amen
[01:49] <PhinnFort> emacs is a religion
[01:49] <Minataku> Without doing any dumbass fancy sh*t or requiring the memorization of ##### commands
[01:49] <pagan0ne> Dragnslcr: emacs is a religon....
[01:49] <Arwen> hey hey... we're off topic again
[01:49] <intelikey> i'm sure i dont know all there is to know about vim/emacs  but i haven't found anything that they could do that mc -e  can't
[01:49] <PhinnFort> everything right there on the screen
[01:49] <Linux_Galore> I know a few people who live on emacs
[01:49] <PhinnFort> !ontopic
[01:49] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the Kubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #kubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:50] <Dragnslcr> I wonder if I still have that image...
[01:50] <hikaricore> emacs = scientology
[01:50] <pagan0ne> rofl
[01:50] <hikaricore> pwned!
[01:50] <intelikey> as an editor only  ^
[01:50] <hikaricore> lol
[01:50] <Minataku> Haha
[01:50] <PhinnFort> emacs is worse than scientology
[01:50] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know where I can find a stable package for kiba-dock for Feisty?
[01:50] <PriceChild> The topic for this channel is Kubuntu support. Back on topic please everyone :)
[01:50] <Linux_Galore> I saw one emacs guy who has written a lisp client so he can chat and message on Yahoo
[01:50] <PhinnFort> rotfl
[01:50] <PhinnFort> Kr4t05: compile it yourself
[01:51] <Minataku> Screw the topic :P
[01:51] <hikaricore>  O.o
[01:51] <Linux_Galore> anyway I digress
[01:51] <PhinnFort> weee, updates from the oxygen world
[01:51] <Arwen> ^^ - understatement of the year
[01:51] <Kr4t05> PhinnFort: I tried that... I keeps crashing... I'm no great shakes at compilation.
[01:51] <Minataku> Anyway, brb
[01:51] <PhinnFort> thank you pricechild
[01:51] <Linux_Galore> Im paying with kiba with beryl, talk about eye candy (or is that kandy) overload
[01:52] <Linux_Galore> playing*
[01:52] <Dragnslcr> Search Google Images for "text editor learning curves" and take a look at the first one
[01:52] <hikaricore> It always either didn't work at all, or looked shamefully ugly
[01:52] <Dragnslcr> Absolutely hilarious
[01:52] <Linux_Galore> Im on kde 4 alpha1, seems to work for me but needs a fairly good machine
[01:53] <PhinnFort> rotfl
[01:53] <hikaricore> Don't know why my intel celeron can't handle it  *sarcasme*
[01:53] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: do you have the oxygen style and windeco?
[01:53] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: or did you just get the packages?
[01:53] <mardi> hi all, my kubuntu feisty has suddenly stopped asking for root password when opening 'kdesu konqueror' and when clicking 'admin mode' in system settings, installing progarms etc. any ideas why?
[01:53] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: yes, Im trying to decide if I like it or now
[01:54] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: no I compiled it on Gentoo
[01:54] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: is resizing flickering?
[01:54] <PriceChild> mardi, it has a small time which it will remember the password for. About 5 minutes afaik
[01:54] <pagan0ne> mardi: it likes you :)
[01:54] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: "we had some serious problems with the new code of the windeco; Thomas is a great hacker about graphics, one of the best I know, but hes still an human, and needs some time to debug the problems that may eventually come up. Especially, theres a nasty bug that right now makes the GUI flashing a bit when resizing"
[01:54] <Linux_Galore> Philip5: a bit but then again allot of stuff is flickering and not rendering and leaving fragments
[01:54] <PhinnFort> from Riccardo Iaconelli
[01:54] <Minataku> PriceChild: wtf?
[01:54] <Minataku> Don't make ubotu tell me stupid things
[01:54] <Minataku> lol
[01:55] <hikaricore> heh
[01:55] <PriceChild> Minataku, watch your language please :)
[01:55] <PhinnFort> Minataku: he did that to me too, should we start a club of some sorts?
[01:55] <mardi> PriceChild, pagan0ne: all i've done so far is login, it hasn't asked for a password since :p
[01:55] <Linux_Galore> Philip5: think kicker is borked though, keeps crashing
[01:55] <PriceChild> mardi, odd... I'm not sure sorry if you haven't changed anything.
[01:55] <Minataku> PriceChild: You gave me "Don't change your nick in a busy channel"
[01:55] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: kicker is dying
[01:55] <hikaricore> mardi: you didn't modify your sudoers file recently did you?
[01:55] <Minataku> Not "Watch your f*cking language"
[01:55] <Minataku> That * is an "o", BTW
[01:55] <PhinnFort> oo
[01:56] <Minataku> Not my fault if you think like that
[01:56] <Dragnslcr> Shouldn't it be an 's'?
[01:56] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: there is no love between me and kicker heh
[01:56] <pagan0ne> not watch your fscking language?
[01:56] <Arwen> mardi, when's the last time you had to enter your password?
[01:56] <hikaricore> frack
[01:56] <PriceChild> Minataku, this is offtopic. please take it to pm with me if you want.
[01:56] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: seriously, kicker is going away in KDE 4
[01:56] <Minataku> fsck is FileSystem ChecK
[01:56] <mardi> hikaricore: maybe, i did enable this user to be part of the sudo group
[01:56] <mardi> Arwen: only at login, upon boot
[01:56] <Arwen> hmm
[01:56] <Minataku> fock is FOr Crap's saKe
[01:56] <Minataku> I just made that up but w/e
[01:56] <Minataku> XD
[01:56] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: actually Ive been told it will still be there until 4.1 because the applet stuff hasnt been finnished
[01:56] <PriceChild> !offtopic | Minataku
[01:56] <ubotu> Minataku: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:56] <PhinnFort> hikaricore: we recently had a concert here, and one of the bands decided to cover rage against the machine, but with a certain twist: "frack you, I won't do you what you told me"
[01:57] <Minataku> PriceChild: Okay, getting tired now
[01:57] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: Aaron keeps saying it will never be repaired for KDE 4 because it won't be used, though
[01:57] <Minataku> If you're gonna harass me about being offtopic you have to harass EVERYONE
[01:57] <PhinnFort> *bends
[01:58] <Minataku> Come on, get to it, chop chop
[01:58] <Linux_Galore> well Im talking kde issues in 4.0alpha
[01:58] <Minataku> Didn't think so
[01:58] <intelikey> ok i've been playing with the functions in that script it seems that it's in the redirrected input of the read command.
[01:58] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: it's still 3.8, or is it 3.9?
[01:59] <Minataku> Also, sorry for getting out of hand again
[01:59] <intelikey> i need to know how dash handles <<<   it's probably not usable  and needs to be  <   ?
[01:59] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: yeah I know but thats what it being posted as
[01:59] <Minataku> It's hot in here >.<
[01:59] <PhinnFort> Minataku: same here, it's flaming, you might say
[01:59] <hikaricore> ...
[01:59] <hikaricore> that was terrible
[02:00] <PhinnFort> heh

[02:00] <hikaricore> sadly "man dash" just brings up the sh man pages
[02:00] <hikaricore> >.<
[02:00] <PhinnFort> but I almost understand why the maintainers that be set it as default
[02:01] <PhinnFort> if it wasn't for bug #1
[02:01] <Linux_Galore> I have allot of python stuff ans scripts dash totally messes allot of it up
[02:01] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash
[02:02] <PhinnFort> set bash back in power
[02:02] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: done that, Im using bash now
[02:02] <PhinnFort> :D
[02:02] <PhinnFort> it's a pain to track down dash related bugs
[02:02] <hikaricore> I remember after upgrading to edgy the first time I could barely use cli because of dash
[02:02] <hikaricore> everything was fubared
[02:02] <intelikey> "dash related bugs"   wouldn't that be better defined as non-posix bashism ?
[02:02] <hikaricore> >.<
[02:03] <PhinnFort> fun
[02:03] <PhinnFort> intelikey: well, yeah, but still;)
[02:03] <intelikey> :)
[02:03] <Linux_Galore> dash to me is analism gone mad
[02:03] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: aka. debianism?;)
[02:03] <Linux_Galore> yeah
[02:04] <Linux_Galore> I was hoping Ubuntu would avoid it
[02:04] <hikaricore> pfft
[02:04] <intelikey> here yall go again saying i'm debianic
[02:04] <PhinnFort> well, when you base something so much on another thing, you're bound to get some of the less fortunate stuff with it
[02:04] <PhinnFort> debianistic
[02:04] <PriceChild> PhinnFort, to -offtopic please.
[02:05] <Linux_Galore> well at least Ubuntu hasnt forked firefox
[02:05] <intelikey> yet
[02:06] <PhinnFort> *cough*ubuntustillcatchinguptodebianjustwaitandsee*cough*
[02:06] <Linux_Galore> lol
[02:06] <PhinnFort> sorry, PriceChild, I don't know what just happened
[02:07] <Linux_Galore> they need to take more Analism vitamins @ Ubuntu dev's
[02:07] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[02:07] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:07] <PriceChild> Support only people.
[02:07] <Linux_Galore> that was meant as a joke
[02:08] <PriceChild> Please stop commenting... move on :)
[02:14] <Ace2016> Hi all
[02:14] <Ace2016> does kompozer work for anyone else???
[02:14] <PhinnFort> Ace2016: where?
[02:14] <hikaricore> Works fine for me.
[02:14] <mardi> hi, i mistakenly remove the adm and admin groups from my user. now i get "Su returned with an error" when trying to do root things, anyone know how to fix this?
[02:15] <BluesKaj> what's komposer?
[02:15] <Ace2016> PhinnFort: what do you mean where?
[02:15] <Ace2016> hikaricore: mine segfaults
[02:15] <PhinnFort> Ace2016: what is kompozer/where can I get it?
[02:15] <Ace2016> its in the reos
[02:15] <Ace2016> repos*
[02:16] <hikaricore> Ace2016: Ohh now that I think of it, mine did too.
[02:16] <PhinnFort> !info kompozer
[02:16] <ubotu> Package kompozer does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:16] <PhinnFort> no;)
[02:16] <hikaricore> Ace2016: I removed mine and replaced it with a version from getdeb.net
[02:16] <hikaricore> >.<
[02:16] <BluesKaj> !kompozer
[02:16] <ubotu> nvu is a WYSIWYG and code dual-function HTML editor for easily creating web pages.  The original developer is working on a full rewrite; meanwhile, another is doing bugfixes.  It is not in the Ubuntu repos for Feisty Fawn, but add your name to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WaitingForNvuFeisty to be notified when packages are available.  See also !html.
[02:16] <intelikey> mardi you'll have to boot into safe/recovery mode and add the groups or set a root password
[02:17] <mardi> intelikey: thanks! i'll give that a go :D
[02:17] <PhinnFort> intelikey: gpasswd -a usernam groupname
[02:17] <PhinnFort> I mean mardi
[02:17] <intelikey> mardi actually admin is the one  you need
[02:17] <PhinnFort> mardi: run gpasswd -a [username]  admin
[02:17] <intelikey> PhinnFort without root access     possably but not likely
[02:18] <PhinnFort> intelikey: i meant when she was in recovery
[02:18] <intelikey> PhinnFort oh.   yeah.   or usermod  and add the group
[02:19] <mardi> ok, that worked, rebooting now
[02:20] <willrjmarshall> Dumb question - but how do I see which groups a user belongs to?
[02:20] <intelikey> groups
[02:22] <intelikey> or more specificly  groups username    if you don't want to run it on the present user
[02:22] <willrjmarshall> Hmm. "www" doesn't show :/
[02:22] <PhinnFort> ok, wtf does Konqueror _always_ open .deb files I download from the 'net in Kate?
[02:22] <PhinnFort> friggin irritating
[02:22] <willrjmarshall> PhinnFort: There's a right-click context menu for using it properly
[02:23] <PhinnFort> willrjmarshall: from webpages?
[02:23] <willrjmarshall> Oh. Hang on - opens automatically without clicking?
[02:23] <willrjmarshall> Go change it :p
[02:23] <mardi> intelikey, PhinnFort: that fixed it, thanks much for the help :)
[02:23] <PhinnFort> willrjmarshall: if I choose to save as, it tries to deduce the filename from the link, so it's usually download.php
[02:23] <PhinnFort> mardi: yw;)
[02:23] <intelikey> not at all mardi
[02:24] <hikaricore> there's your problem lol
[02:24] <willrjmarshall> Peh
[02:24] <PhinnFort> willrjmarshall: I click on the link to download something (from for example kde-apps.org), and then kate pops up
[02:24] <willrjmarshall> I see
[02:24] <willrjmarshall> That *would* be a pain
[02:24] <PhinnFort> it is
[02:24] <willrjmarshall> I'm fairly sure Konq allows you to configure filemask behaviour
[02:24] <willrjmarshall> But I wouldn't know how
[02:25] <intelikey> mime types
[02:25] <intelikey> in the konq config
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> wow...
[02:26] <PhinnFort> well, x-debs are associated with Ark
[02:28] <intelikey> ok i think what you are running into is pretty loop legged.  but the download manager is what is "opening" the file, and not konqueror itself.   check that out maybe.
[02:28] <Ace2016> hikaricore: thanks that worked :)
[02:30] <intelikey> now if i can just figure out a way to get an array of something to work in a dash script where   while read line <here_docs   doesn't work cause it's a 'bash' thang !   .........
[02:38] <intelikey> seems that every thing i think of to use there turns out to be a 'bash thang'   i obviously spent too much time learning 'bash' and not enough learning the differances
[02:39] <dave__> hi
[02:45] <intelikey> dave__
[02:47] <intelikey> everyone already has a pastebin script ?   this one is posix compliant  :)     http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37319
[02:47] <PhinnFort> Just what do you think you're doing, Dave? Dave, I really think I'm entitled to an answer to that question.
[02:48] <intelikey> is he snooping around your box ?
[02:48] <PhinnFort> HAL: I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.
[02:48] <Minataku> Let you do that
[02:48] <PhinnFort> Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.
[02:48] <Minataku> I'm afraid I can't let you do that
[02:48] <Minataku> I haven't even seen the movie and I know that line :P
[02:48] <PhinnFort> :P
[02:48] <hikaricore> I hate when people muck up good quotes
[02:48] <PhinnFort> well, I'm c&p from wikiquote
[02:49] <PhinnFort> so I think it's accurate
[02:49] <hikaricore> that's your problem
[02:49] <hikaricore> wiki = fail
[02:49] <PhinnFort> delete .kde?
[02:50] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.
[02:50] <PhinnFort> - HAL
[02:50] <hikaricore> i think hald is the son of HAL
[02:50] <hikaricore> heh
[02:50] <PhinnFort> I saw your lips moving
[02:50] <PhinnFort> (or something)
[02:51] <intelikey> wouldn't that be hal jr  not hald ?
[02:51] <mindslant> is there a GUI way to add reposotories?
[02:51] <intelikey> mindslant yes  in adept
[02:51] <intelikey> !repos
[02:51] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:51] <hikaricore> intelikey: nope, that's what they want you to think
[02:52] <intelikey> i think that has some info on it.
[02:52] <mindslant> I feel like an idiot, thx
[02:53] <intelikey> however i don't even try to keep up with the wiki's
[02:53] <intelikey> they are about as stable as water
[02:54] <intelikey> as unmovable as air,  as solid as space;  as permanant as lightening.....
[02:55] <intelikey> but all things considered, they are pretty good....
[02:55] <intelikey> :)
[02:55] <drblood_> how can i turn my sound up higher
[02:55] <intelikey> alsamixer
[02:55] <intelikey> adjust  pcm  and master
[02:56] <intelikey> ?
[02:56] <pawitp> !maroska
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about maroska - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <pawitp> !mkv
[02:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:56] <drblood_> i was watching an episode of an anime
[02:56] <drblood_> on a site
[02:56] <drblood_> then i turned on a song from another site while running it so then the sound got 10x softer
[02:56] <drblood_> i can barely hear it :'(
[02:57] <intelikey> some people cry about the strangest things...
[02:57] <drblood_> i cant watch my anime
[02:57] <drblood_> >_>
[02:57] <intelikey> alsamixer
[02:58] <intelikey> kmix maybe too
[02:58] <drblood_> .......
[02:58] <drblood_> wat should i do?
[02:58] <intelikey> you sould wait for someone else to answer you.
[02:58] <drblood_> y
[02:58] <intelikey> next !
[02:58] <GrueTamer> type alsamixer in the terminal
[02:59] <drblood_> now wat
[02:59] <GrueTamer> turn up pcm and master, sometimes master mono helps too, if you have it
[02:59] <drblood_> how do u turn it up
[02:59] <GrueTamer> up arrow
[03:00] <drblood_> im using kubuntu
[03:00] <GrueTamer> yeah...
[03:00] <BluesKaj> unmute with the letter M, and make sure the ctrls show 00
[03:00] <drblood_> i dont see an arrow
[03:00] <GrueTamer> alsamixer isnt a (k)ubuntu thing
[03:00] <GrueTamer> no, use the up arrow key
[03:01] <BluesKaj> the slider title is highlighted in red
[03:01] <drblood_> i pressed the up arrow king
[03:01] <drblood_> arrow key*
[03:01] <drblood_> didnt do n e thin
[03:01] <GrueTamer> is it already maxed?
[03:01] <drblood_> no
[03:02] <intelikey> !info alsamixergui
[03:02] <drblood_> PCM has 1 green bar
[03:02] <ubotu> alsamixergui: graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.0rc2-1-9 (feisty), package size 29 kB, installed size 148 kB
[03:02] <GrueTamer> turn it up
[03:02] <drblood_> front 1 red
[03:02] <drblood_> then everything else has nothing at all
[03:02] <GrueTamer> like, keep hitting the up arrow
[03:02] <BluesKaj> !alsa
[03:02] <drblood_> am i supposed to click on something
[03:02] <GrueTamer> no
[03:02] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:03] <GrueTamer> have the volume thing that you want to make louder selected and hit the up arrow key repeatedly
[03:03] <drblood_> do u want me to have the terminal maximized
[03:03] <GrueTamer> no
[03:03] <drblood_> wen hitting the up arrow key
[03:03] <drblood_> hm
[03:03] <drblood_> i just press the up arrow key
[03:03] <drblood_> ?
[03:03] <GrueTamer> keep hitting it, and if it doesnt do anything, try increasing master mono
[03:03] <GrueTamer> make sure that it doesnt say MM though, if it does, hit the m key
[03:03] <GrueTamer> one time
[03:04] <GrueTamer> then raise it
[03:04] <drblood_> i dont press ctr+up key?
[03:04] <GrueTamer> no
[03:04] <drblood_> i dont get it
[03:04] <GrueTamer> !info alsamixergui
[03:04] <ubotu> alsamixergui: graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.0rc2-1-9 (feisty), package size 29 kB, installed size 148 kB
[03:04] <GrueTamer> you might prefer that
[03:04] <drblood_> i type in alsamixer on the terminal
[03:04] <drblood_> then press the up arrow key?
[03:04] <drblood_> thats it?
[03:05] <GrueTamer> press the up arrow key multiple times to keep increasing the volume
[03:05] <GrueTamer> hitting it once increases it one level
[03:05] <drblood_> the level doesnt go up
[03:05] <GrueTamer> then its maxed
[03:05] <drblood_> now it does
[03:05] <GrueTamer> now go to the master mono column, if it exist, by using the right or left arrow key, depending on the direction
[03:05] <drblood_> i see the problem
[03:05] <drblood_> u had to select a category thing
[03:05] <drblood_> :-D
[03:05] <drblood_> <3
[03:06] <drblood_> ty
[03:06] <GrueTamer> did it work?
[03:06] <drblood_> yes
[03:06] <drblood_> <3
[03:06] <GrueTamer> just goes to show what the terminal can do for you
[03:06] <GrueTamer> and your welcome
[03:07] <drblood_> thankyou!
[03:07] <drblood_> sorry im a noob with kubuntu tho :\
[03:10] <intelikey> drblood_ we all had to start somewhere.
[03:10] <intelikey> don't worry about it.
[03:10] <willrjmarshall> Being a noob is fun!
[03:10] <willrjmarshall> Everything is cool and mysterious
[03:10] <intelikey> yeah  even after 10 years it's still kinda fun to be a noob       heh !
[03:11] <willrjmarshall> I've only been using Linux for 6 months, so I still find myself a noob regularly
[03:13] <intelikey> i've used linux so long now, i'm kinda sick of it.   but all it takes is 30 seconds at a windows box; and i'm all zealotic again....
[03:14] <intelikey> someone mentioned two days ago "why don't you use plan9..."
[03:14] <intelikey>   hehhe  i have...
[03:15] <intelikey> so i just kinda ignored the statement at the time.
[03:15] <willrjmarshall> intelikey: I've never actually used Windows.  I doubt they'll keep it for long though
[03:26] <Evil_DuDe> yeah, good decision :)
[03:26] <Evil_DuDe> yeah, my friend is also trying to get his mother to use Ubuntu
[03:26] <intelikey> ar you crazy.  you think i want someone messing up my linux system just cause the kids booted windows....
[03:27] <RawSewage> does WoW run perfectly in Kubuntu
[03:27] <Hirvinen> Dragnslcr: Well, my grandmother's happy with hers.
[03:27] <Dragnslcr> Unfortunately they have two or three programs that only work in Windows
[03:27] <Dragnslcr> One of them requires IE
[03:27] <Evil_DuDe> RawSewage: they sai it does, but haven't tested myself
[03:27] <drblood_> how do u send folders over to someone using Kopete
[03:27] <RawSewage> Evil_DuDe, ok ty
[03:27] <BluesKaj> still have XP on a partition for keeping up with stuff ...my daughter finally got a laptop and i walk thru windows apps with her to help her learn.
[03:27] <intelikey> Evil_DuDe that's simple,   install it and configure it,  then give her the box, and say 'here use this, and call me if you need me'   you wont get called much.
[03:27] <Evil_DuDe> oh say i mean
[03:28] <Hirvinen> RawSewage: Yes. In general, you should search Wine's application database to find out if a particular program is working.
[03:28] <Evil_DuDe> intelikey: yeah :)
[03:28] <Hirvinen> RawSewage: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[03:29] <Hirvinen> RawSewage: You might have to(or want to) use a version of wine newer than the one supplied with Feisty. See http://winehq.com/ for the repository.
[03:29] <Dragnslcr> My girlfriend needs a new laptop soon, I might get her another Dell if I can convince her to use Kubuntu
[03:29] <Hirvinen> RawSewage: Whoops, http://appdb.winehq.com/
[03:29] <RawSewage> Hirvinen, ok
[03:29] <intelikey> my mother is 65 and i put linux on her's cause i didn't want to admin a M$ machine...  she called me about three times.   "printer reset"  that's the only issue.
[03:29] <RawSewage> Hirvinen, yeah, I was reading that now
[03:29] <intelikey> Evil_DuDe ^
[03:29] <BluesKaj> cool, intelikey
[03:29] <Evil_DuDe> cool :)
[03:30] <BluesKaj> <--almost 64 ...hmmms
[03:31] <Evil_DuDe> oh wow
[03:31] <intelikey> i never have exactly figured out why.  but if she cancels a print job after it starts printing.  it hangs cups out to dry...  i can manually reset the printer and all is well,  but it's a drive over there to do that....
[03:31] <Evil_DuDe> thats pretty impressing, i must say :)
[03:32] <Evil_DuDe> BluesKaj: haha :D
[03:32] <Dragnslcr> I left an XP CD for my parents last time I went to try to get some crappy Windows-only stuff working in VMWare
[03:32] <proxie> anybody use Amarok by any chance?
[03:32] <Dragnslcr> Their last install got completely hosed by some anti-spam program tech support idiot
[03:32] <Evil_DuDe> proxie: me
[03:32] <Hirvinen> My grandmother's over 70.  I then talked her through setting up an ssh tunnel that allowed me to connect there past her router's NAT on the phone. ;)
[03:33] <proxie> Evil_DuDe: You know if it's possible to display your collection listing differently?
[03:33] <Hirvinen> Whoops, sorry about the language.
[03:33] <BluesKaj> not all old guys sit in front of the tv all day
[03:33] <Evil_DuDe> proxie: what do you mean,
[03:34] <proxie> Like when I click on the + it lists all the albums for that artist
[03:34] <intelikey> BluesKaj i don't own a "tv"  :)
[03:34] <proxie> I would liek to add in the "year" of the album
[03:34] <proxie> like*
[03:34] <Evil_DuDe> ahh yeah sure
[03:35] <proxie> ahhh crap. I just found it :)
[03:35] <proxie> "Group By"
[03:35] <proxie> woohoo
[03:35] <BluesKaj> yeah , prolly got a 26" monitor that has video feeds from pc and sat dish or cable conn :)
[03:35] <Evil_DuDe> yeah :D
[03:35] <Charles_HKG> Where can I find addins for Konquerer that will allow me ot have multiple email accounts and passwords and a decent contact manager like ACT for microshyte?
[03:36] <intelikey> BluesKaj short screen at that...     but no 17" crt actually.   and a donkey load of 15"er's
[03:36] <Dragnslcr> Ouch
[03:36] <Dragnslcr> I had a 19" CRT for years
[03:36] <Dragnslcr> Upgraded to a 20" LCD last year
[03:37] <Dragnslcr> I can't do anything less than 1600x1200
[03:37] <BluesKaj> heh, same here ...use my 17" as a tv some nights, (spare sat receiver)...tv wonder pro and tvtime
[03:38] <intelikey> best monitor i have ever looked at for more than a minute.  is a 15" svga    so clean clear sharp and yet soft on the eyes.   they don't make them like that anymore.
[03:39] <intelikey> anymore seems like everything wants to "(lazor) slice your eyes to ribbons"  but looks good doing it.
[03:40] <BluesKaj> really gotta fiddle with the contrast tho..waaay outta line..total white bloom otherwise
[03:40] <Dragnslcr> My 20" Samsung is pretty nice
[03:40] <Dragnslcr> Huge improvement over my old CRT
[03:41] <intelikey> i wish this crt was about .5 as bright over all.  bright set to 0   contrast set to 40% is to bright still.
[03:41] <Dragnslcr> Maybe I should try getting Beryl running again
[03:41] <BluesKaj> lcd must have come a long way over the last few yrd
[03:41] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, they have
[03:41] <intelikey> indeed they have.
[03:42] <intelikey> but still have a ways to go imo.
[03:42] <BluesKaj> my crt blooms only in the TV mode
[03:42] <Dragnslcr> I was a bit worried when I was looking to buy one, since they usually didn't handle games well
[03:42] <Evil_DuDe> I think so too, but i rather buy LCD nowadays
[03:43] <intelikey> when angle doesn't affect them then they will be good.
[03:43] <Evil_DuDe> yeah, thats true
[03:43] <BluesKaj> yup, agreed
[03:43] <Dragnslcr> Mine is barely affected by angle
[03:43] <intelikey> Dragnslcr really ?
[03:44] <Dragnslcr> I can see the screen pretty well out to 160-170 degrees
[03:44] <Evil_DuDe> very nice
[03:44] <intelikey> impressed.
[03:44] <intelikey> ooops
[03:44] <BluesKaj> only 10degrees of scrn
[03:44] <intelikey> >/impressed>

[03:44] <intelikey> i'll get it wrong in a minute
[03:45] <Evil_DuDe> i can only turn something like 60 degrees
[03:45] <Evil_DuDe> then the colors get messed up a little
[03:45] <Dragnslcr> Of course I'm red-green color blind, so I probably wouldn't notice color distortion anyway
[03:45] <Evil_DuDe> but this is very old LCD, about two years old i think
[03:45] <intelikey> yeah that's what i'm used to seeing Evil_DuDe
[03:45] <BluesKaj> bummer
[03:46] <intelikey> people don't have new hardware worked on.....
[03:46] <Evil_DuDe> but i'm thinking of buying a new LCD, something like 20" or 20"
[03:46] <Evil_DuDe> oh 21"
[03:46] <intelikey> short screen ?
[03:46] <BluesKaj> so i guess you look for which light is lit at intersections "the top one being red and the bottom green"
[03:46] <Evil_DuDe> dunno yet
[03:47] <intelikey> they call it "wide"  but i know short when i see short....
[03:47] <Evil_DuDe> yeah :D
[03:47] <Evil_DuDe> but i don't have very much money right now and i'm about to start my civil service
[03:48] <intelikey> BluesKaj that's confusing in some towns where they're horizontal ....
[03:48] <SillyZ> q: theres php-nuke, and there was another one, and ill be damned if i can remember its name its php-something....
[03:48] <radioaktivstorm> is there a way to change the orientation of kde....by that i mean everything seems to like horizontal scrolling, which i feel is immensely inconvienent
[03:49] <intelikey> SillyZ  apt-cache search -n php
[03:49] <BluesKaj> intelikey, never seen that here in Canada
[03:49] <SillyZ> ya Ive done that intel
[03:49] <intelikey> BluesKaj it's mostly phased out down here too.
[03:50] <BluesKaj> I'm tired ...been outside all day ...worn out
[03:50] <BluesKaj> nite gents & gentilles
[03:51] <Evil_DuDe> I'm little tired too, haven't slept in 24 hours or so
[03:51] <Dragnslcr> SillyZ- what are you looking for, a program to give people root access to your box?
[03:51] <intelikey> heh
[03:51] <SillyZ> heh no, if i wanted to do that id just post the root password on youtube
[03:51] <SillyZ> :D
[03:51] <Evil_DuDe> yeah :D
[03:51] <Evil_DuDe> cheap and free ftp-server :)
[03:51] <Dragnslcr> Heh, I think phpnuke would be easier
[03:51] <SillyZ> I used to run a php based site, it wasnt php-nuke it was the other one, but ill be damned if I can remember the name of it
[03:52] <radioaktivstorm> also is there a way to  keep one row of tasks beyond 35px?
[03:52] <Evil_DuDe> i mean fast and free :D
[03:52] <Evil_DuDe> damn, i think i should go to bed :D
[03:52] <Evil_DuDe> writing all kind of nonsense :D
[03:52] <intelikey> what am i saying
[03:53] <Evil_DuDe> onoes
[03:54] <jacques> does someone know a mirror to download the kubuntu gutsy cdimage?
[03:54] <intelikey> radioaktivstorm that should be one of the  FAQ's for this channel.... i don't know if it is even listed in the wikis or not.  but i do see lots of folks asking about the size/shape of the tray
[03:55] <Evil_DuDe> nah, no need for bed i just listen Queen and have some good time :)
[03:56] <intelikey> i sussposss i kould install kde so i kould answer those kinds of kwestions.
[03:56] <Evil_DuDe> haha, that reminds me of Mortal Kombat :D
[03:56] <Evil_DuDe> Kredits and so on :)
[03:57] <intelikey> :)
[03:58] <intelikey> i just kant find enough kurrage to attempt kde again.
[03:58] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[03:58] <Kr4t05> Does anyone else have issues with SuperKaramba spazzing when Beryl starts?
[04:00] <radioaktivstorm> intelikey, thanks! ill poke around some more
[04:00] <intelikey> oh don't thank me.  all i've done was take up text buffer...
[04:01] <intelikey> could have jsut as easily said " i don't know "     but i do see lots of folks asking about it in here....
[04:01] <Dr_willis> *BufferOverflow*
[04:01] <intelikey> turncates so no biggy
[04:02] <intelikey> is biggy a word ?
[04:03] <Kr4t05> intelikey: biggie(
[04:03] <Kr4t05> **
[04:03] <Kr4t05> Bleh...
[04:03] <intelikey> }
[04:03] <radioaktivstorm> X_X i am finding kde exceedingly hard to mod to fit my needs.
[04:04] <intelikey> need != want
[04:04] <intelikey> :)
[04:04] <intelikey> Kr4t05   sp biggie
[04:04] <intelikey> sorry; aspell could not spell (biggie) correctly!
[04:05] <intelikey> biggy either...
[04:05] <Dr_willis> Hmm. Does superkaramba come wth any eye-candy applets by default?  The 'open' dialog is pointing to my home dir. not where any examples would be.
[04:05] <Kr4t05> Dr_willis: No, it doesn't come with any karamba
[04:05] <Kr4t05> Dr_willis: kde-look.org is a good place to get some.
[04:06] <Dr_willis> Kr4t05,  ok. Not seeing any 'example applets for karamba' in the package manager either.
[04:06] <Dr_willis> just seemed odd some one dident package a few of the better ones to get ya started. :)
[04:06] <DaSkreech> It's mild mannered
[04:07] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: better for who? :)
[04:07] <DaSkreech> As I recall some people are underwhelmed by a  clock
[04:08] <Dr_willis>   Aha ---->   / usr/share/doc/superkaramba/examples/
[04:08] <Dr_willis> there is a few examples. :)
[04:08] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  that Clock in the Sidebar under Vista is my wifes Favoritet Feature.
[04:08] <Dr_willis> and that litte lightsout game.
[04:09] <DaSkreech> There is a game?
[04:09] <DaSkreech> And it's not sudoku? Fascinating
[04:10] <intelikey> so stuperkaramba is a natural part of kde ?   i didn't know that.
[04:10] <Dr_willis> Under vista's sidebar theres a Puzzle game (1-15) and a Lights Out game. Shes discovered. :)
[04:10] <Dr_willis> She wants similer things under KDE for herself.
[04:10] <Dr_willis> so im tracking them down for her.
[04:10] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: service pack 1?
[04:11] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  No idea. She has a Cheap Laptop that came with Vista. and shes getting sick of it. so shes going tohbe learning Kubuntu soon.. :)
[04:11] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: ahh the toucan can be changed to numbers
[04:12] <DaSkreech> I dont see lights out though
[04:12] <DaSkreech> Can you ask the good doctor's Wife where she got the Lights out?
[04:12] <Dr_willis> Hmm she may of installed that herself.
[04:12] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Common sense?
[04:12] <Dr_willis> It must of been on the vista games/sidebar page. thats the only place she chould of looked.
[04:13] <intelikey> DaSkreech well   i think it may be more   "prejudus" than sense....
[04:13] <Minataku> Dr_willis: :D
[04:13] <Kr4t05> Wow...
[04:13] <Dr_willis> somthing else i need to find is a Solitare Game (with simple solitare variants like for kids) with Zoomable cards. She likes to play without her glasses. so she needs BIG cards.
[04:13] <Kr4t05> Kore is very nice.
[04:13] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: following plasma?
[04:13] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Perhaps pysol
[04:13] <Minataku> I know it has card set support
[04:14] <Minataku> Dunno if they can be zoomed
[04:14] <Dr_willis> she perfers the Kids-type solitare where ya can put a black4 on a black5 and so forth - color dosent matter.
[04:14] <Minataku> But it's got assloads of Solitare variants
[04:14] <Dr_willis> Pysol dosetn go big enough. she ends up setting her res to like 800x600 which really screws up everything else.
[04:14] <Dr_willis> Of course there may be new cardsets for pysol by now
[04:14] <Minataku> Ah
[04:14] <DaSkreech> Minataku: have you ever tried to fill an assload?
[04:15] <Dr_willis> Get a Great High-res monitor for her.. and what does she do.. sets it to 800x600
[04:15] <DaSkreech> It's not nearly as much as it implies
[04:15] <Minataku> DaSkreech: It takes an assload of ass to fill an assload
[04:15] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Heh
[04:15] <intelikey> well here's enough reason for a dialup user to "NOT" install kde     Need to get 33.8MB/248MB of archives.    the 33M is all updates sense the last time i did that.
[04:15] <Minataku> Dr_willis: So what were you doing all day today? :3
[04:15] <Minataku> I was playing videogames and sleeping XD
[04:18] <intelikey> ok lagging off the irc scope.  gooday and happy penguins to all.
[04:19] <DaSkreech> intelikey: night
[04:19] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  looking at USED CARS
[04:19] <trakinas> hey
[04:19] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Ouch
[04:19] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  and shes getting on my nerves
[04:19] <Minataku> Sounds sucky
[04:19] <trakinas> anyone good with video edition?
[04:19] <Minataku> Heh
[04:19] <Dr_willis> 'i just want a junker car.. for a few months that i can then trade in on the NEW car i want  later'
[04:19] <Minataku> That's... pretty stupid
[04:19] <Dr_willis> Welcome to being MARRIED. :)
[04:20] <Minataku> Haha
[04:20] <Dr_willis> but it keeps her busy. Otherwise she may be trying to redecorate the house., or somthing else that would be real work for me
[04:20] <Minataku> Hey, do you think shipping in separate boxes will cost more than putting everything in one or about the same (or less)?
[04:21] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  id guess about the same. theygo by weight dont they?
[04:22] <Ashex> anyone know how to restart the kde panels?
[04:22] <Dr_willis> My Brother gave me another Amiga Monitor today. :0
[04:22] <Ashex> they're being unresponsive to my clicks
[04:22] <Dr_willis> They make great little tv's
[04:22] <Minataku> Dr_willis: I think so
[04:22] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Do you have any of that ready to send?
[04:22] <khirr> i have the driver for my webcam, how can i configure it?
[04:23] <khirr> where is the folfer where it should be?
[04:23] <jacques> has someone used elisa before?
[04:23] <DaSkreech> Ashex: kicker
[04:23] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  i got the Scsi HD in a box thats about 1/2 full. looking for those Calculators to toss in. Found 1 so far
[04:23] <Dr_willis> found some foam also to pack it with.
[04:23] <DaSkreech> !webcam
[04:23] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:23] <Ashex> DaSkreech, kill it?
[04:23] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Coo, what about the four Amigas and the PSU?
[04:23] <trakinas> Ashex: i dont know. guess you can remove it and start a new one.
[04:23] <Minataku> Not trying to rush, just trying to defuse my own growing excitement XD
[04:23] <trakinas> Ashex: no. restarte kicker.
[04:23] <Dr_willis> I cant find a box the right size for them. VCR box's  got are too small. others are too big..
[04:23] <trakinas> =P
[04:24] <DaSkreech> Ashex: well If it's not responding
[04:24] <Minataku> Ah
[04:24] <Dr_willis> wanting to  pack them decently well.
[04:24] <Minataku> Indeed
[04:24] <khirr> my webcam is vimicro
[04:24] <Minataku> Who knows what UPS/USPS or whoever's cheapest will do to them
[04:24] <trakinas> i never saw an amiga... =(
[04:24] <Dr_willis> plys im finding other 'bits' here and there. The memory expansion units in another box..  a load of the Old atari type joysticks (need those?)
[04:24] <khirr> i found that one guy made 200+ drivers for this
[04:24] <Minataku> Yeah, may as well toss in a couple of them
[04:24] <Minataku> They have some proprietary mouse, ne?
[04:24] <trakinas> khirr: you probably have to run any webcam program to configure it.
[04:25] <Minataku> I can probably use a joystick as a pointing device XD
[04:25] <snowdonkey> Hi.  I'm having problems with Konsole running slowly.  It takes about 10 seconds for the prompt to appear, and another 10 seconds to close once I hit the X.
[04:25] <Ashex> hmm
[04:25] <khirr> but, when i use amsn, it doesnt run
[04:25] <Ashex> DaSkreech, killing it by pid or name doesn't appear to be working
[04:25] <khirr> to configure, either
[04:25] <DaSkreech> snowdonkey: try xterm
[04:25] <vonkrolok> hi guys, got a prob with texlive2007 installation, can somebody help?
[04:25] <Ashex> nevermind
[04:25] <trakinas> kde is generaly slow here. im probably going to install e17 or xfce
[04:26] <Ashex> kill -3 PID worked
[04:26] <trakinas> vonkrolok: just ask, dont ask to ask.
[04:26] <snowdonkey> daskreech xterm is also running slowly, similar symptoms.
[04:26] <vonkrolok> trakinas: it's a bit long, if somebody is willing I'll get to that, but typing and not getting reply is frustrating
[04:26] <Minataku> kill alone sends SIGTERM, kill -9 sends SIGKILL
[04:26] <DaSkreech> snowdonkey: That aint' good
[04:26] <Minataku> Always do alone first, followed by -9
[04:27] <vonkrolok> trakinas: anyhow, I started the install script sh
[04:27] <khirr> T_T
[04:27] <vonkrolok> trakinas: with root priviledges
[04:27] <Minataku> SIGTERM btw is Signal 15
[04:27] <vonkrolok> trakinas: but unexplicably I get  this error message
[04:27] <snowdonkey> daskreech Could it have to do with graphics drivers?  I'm using the latest Nvidia proprietary.
[04:27] <vonkrolok> trakinas:  Cannot stat: No such file or directory
[04:28] <trakinas> vonkrolok: hmmmm... where are you trying to install it?
[04:28] <vonkrolok> trakinas: supposedly with root it should be able to create those dirs, but apparetly it doesn't
[04:28] <vonkrolok> trakinas: default dirs
[04:29] <trakinas> strange.
[04:29] <trakinas> what about tex2007 own faqs?
[04:29] <vonkrolok> trakinas: doesn't say a thing about it
[04:30] <vonkrolok> according to them I should type
[04:30] <vonkrolok> trakinas: sh install-tl.sh and it should go smooth
[04:30] <vonkrolok> trakinas: not exactly the case apparently
[04:30] <DaSkreech> snowdonkey: that shouldn't make just the konsoles slow
[04:31] <Minataku> Dr_willis: By the way, thanks again for donating all your "trash" to me X3
[04:31] <snowdonkey> daskreech Ok, I was trying to think of what changed since I last installed Dapper.  :-/
[04:31] <vonkrolok> trakinas: in particular it seems uncapable to access dirs in the texmf-dist main root
[04:32] <trakinas> hmmmm... what about google?  couldnt find anything?
[04:32] <excitatory> So does anyone else experience random hard freezes in feisty?  I've been exhaustively searching various forums, mailing lists, and bug reports and are finding piles of users with the very same problem.  It tends to be independent of the video card and if desktop effects are enabled or not.
[04:32] <DaSkreech> snowdonkey: what do you have in your ~/.bash_logout ?
[04:33] <vonkrolok> trakinas: been bashing my head on that for about 2 weeks...nothing done
[04:33] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  heh told the wife to help me pack stuff for ya.. she said 'ya going to pay me?'
[04:33] <Dr_willis> I wont repeate my reply to her.. :) this is a faimly channel
[04:33] <snowdonkey> daskreech Here's what my ~/.bash_logout says:
[04:33] <Minataku> Dr_willis: XD
[04:34] <snowdonkey> # ~/.bash_logout: executed by bash(1) when login shell exits.
[04:34] <snowdonkey> # when leaving the console clear the screen to increase privacy
[04:34] <snowdonkey> if [ "$SHLVL" = 1 ] ; then
[04:34] <snowdonkey>     [ -x /usr/bin/clear_console ]  && /usr/bin/clear_console -q
[04:34] <snowdonkey> fi
[04:34] <DaSkreech> snowdonkey: patsebin it
[04:34] <DaSkreech> !paste | snowdonkey
[04:34] <ubotu> snowdonkey: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:34] <Dr_willis> she does a lot of catalog ordering - and darn it - if i can find any of the 100's of box's shes got to have SOMEWHERE in this house.
[04:34] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Heehee
[04:34] <snowdonkey> daskreech Ok, I'm new to IRC so gimme a sec to figure out pastebin
[04:35] <Dr_willis> isent there some pastebin command/cli tool that makes using it a little easier?
[04:35] <khirr> how is the instrucction? make?
[04:35] <Dr_willis> ie: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinthisforme
[04:35] <vonkrolok> trakinas: now even access denied...jee...I'm with root privis
[04:35] <Dr_willis> would return the pastebin url?
[04:36] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis, would be nice
[04:36] <Minataku> sudo doesn't provide true root privliges
[04:36] <snowdonkey> daskreech Well as it is what's above are all the contents of the file anyway.
[04:36] <trakinas> vonkrolok: where you took it? i have to leave. my wirst is killing me....
[04:36] <Minataku> There are still some actions which require true root access
[04:36] <Dr_willis> isent there a 'cls' command to clear the console?
[04:36] <trakinas> Minataku: like sudo su?
[04:36] <Minataku> clear
[04:36] <DaSkreech> snowdonkey: Yeah just letting you know that you should pastebin from here on out
[04:36] <trakinas> Dr_willis: clear
[04:36] <Minataku> trakinas: Something like that
[04:36] <DaSkreech> If it;s longer than one line
[04:37] <trakinas> Dr_willis: or control+l
[04:37] <vonkrolok> trakinas: from a console with a sudo su command
[04:37] <Dr_willis> i recall some 'echo escape-somthing' as a cls alias years ago. :0
[04:37] <Dr_willis> The serial-terminal days. :0
[04:37] <snowdonkey> daskreech Ok.  Then I just paste the url?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24932/
[04:37] <Minataku> Hey, I never knew of Ctrl+L
[04:37] <DaSkreech> trakinas: like cd into a root owned dir
[04:37] <DaSkreech> snowdonkey: Yes
[04:37] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, that's a new one for me too
[04:37] <trakinas> Minataku: =P
[04:38] <trakinas> now, i really have to leave. cheers folks!
[04:38] <Minataku> Have a link to Japanese QVC. You can watch online! http://qvc.jp
[04:38] <Minataku> XD
[04:39] <snowdonkey> daskreech Do you see anything out of the ordinary?
[04:39] <DaSkreech> snowdonkey: no looks good and small as well
[04:39] <Minataku> Heh
[04:40] <Minataku> Not counting blank lines and comments mine is even smaller
[04:40] <Minataku> It's just "clear"
[04:40] <Minataku> :D
[04:40] <Dr_willis> I thought ctrl-l was redraw tthe screen.. or "formfeed" :) for printing
[04:40] <Minataku> Dr_willis: That's really all "clear" does
[04:41] <Minataku> It pushes everything off the top and reprints the prompt there
[04:41] <DaSkreech> clear prints like 23 lines I think
[04:42] <Minataku> ed@Piyoko /ext/D/Unix/Xenix/80386 2.3.4q $ file /usr/bin/clear
[04:42] <Minataku> /usr/bin/clear: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[04:42] <Minataku> Heehee, it's just your average executable
[04:42] <khirr> make
[04:42] <khirr> make install (ste como root)
[04:42] <khirr> how should i write this line of code on console?
[04:43] <Minataku> khirr: "make; sudo make install"
[04:43] <khirr> make
[04:43] <khirr> make install (ste como root)
[04:43] <khirr> uhmm
[04:43] <khirr> make: command not found
[04:43] <hitmanWilly> id use the & operator myself, just to ensure make worked
[04:43] <Minataku> You're missing build tools
[04:43] <Minataku> !build
[04:43] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:44] <Minataku> !info build-essential
[04:44] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (feisty), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[04:44] <Minataku> >.>
[04:44] <khirr> but, writeing make isnt enought?
[04:44] <Minataku> khirr: You need the make program
[04:44] <Minataku> Along with the compiler, linker and so on
[04:44] <khirr> makfile?
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> khirr, did you do ./configure first?
[04:44] <khirr> no
[04:44] <vonkrolok> anybody ever tried to install texlive2007 from a DVD?
[04:44] <Minataku> No, the program /usr/bin/make
[04:44] <khirr> there isnt that file
[04:45] <Minataku> !build | khirr
[04:45] <ubotu> khirr: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:45] <Minataku> Read that
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> hmmmm, usually ./configure is what makes the makefile
[04:45] <Minataku> hitmanWilly: Considering he doesn't even have make, that'll fail
[04:45] <Minataku> Guaranteed
[04:45] <khirr> but,in the folder there is one file that say
[04:45] <khirr> Makefile
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> he doesn't have make? wow
[04:46] <Minataku> khirr: You are missing the build tools
[04:46] <Minataku> Look, you seem to be reading Spanish instructions
[04:46] <khirr> i'll try it now
[04:46] <Minataku> !es | khirr
[04:46] <ubotu> khirr: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:47] <Minataku> hitmanWilly: Kubuntu doesn't COME with make
[04:47] <Minataku> Or gcc
[04:47] <Minataku> Or anything of the sort
[04:47] <Minataku> You're actively discouraged from ever compiling anything, after all
[04:48] <Minataku> Why would they give you from the start the tools to do it when they don't want you to? :P
[04:48] <khirr> ubotu i'm using manriva
[04:48] <Minataku> Sorry, I just think that's so stupid
[04:48] <DaSkreech> More like not enough space on the install CD
[04:48] <khirr> is something diferent?
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> me too
[04:48] <Minataku> DaSkreech: No, you're actively discouraged from compiling
[04:48] <DaSkreech> khirr: do you have make?
[04:48] <khirr> mak?
[04:48] <khirr> make?
[04:48] <Minataku> khirr: If you're using Mandriva, why are you asking for help in #kubuntu ?
[04:48] <DaSkreech> Minataku: yes.. but it's also because there is no space on the CD
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> khirr, try man make and see if it returns anything
[04:49] <Minataku> DaSkreech: Then why isn't it included as part of a network install?
[04:49] <khirr> cause, i was using of kubutu, are better person, in mandriva chanel, no one wanna hlp
[04:49] <Minataku> There's no excuse there
[04:49] <Minataku> khirr: Good point
[04:49] <khirr> make : command not found
[04:49] <Minataku> You have to pay for help with Mandriva
[04:49] <khirr> exactly
[04:49] <Minataku> Damn Frenchies, giving Linux a bad name
[04:50] <khirr> but, when i instlled kubuntu 7.04, not all ran good
[04:50] <Minataku> And I thought Americans were greedy
[04:50] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:50] <DaSkreech> Minataku: cause it's using the same package from the Cd?
[04:50] <Minataku> At least we don't charge you for help with Linux
[04:50] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Heehee
[04:50] <khirr> uhmm, my video drivers in kubuntu never run good
[04:50] <khirr> is mycard integrate is VIA
[04:50] <Minataku> See, we ask for donations. They demand payment.
[04:50] <Dr_willis> Thats often the fault of the video card makers and their drivers
[04:50] <DaSkreech> Minataku: Kubuntu is either south african or Scottish :)
[04:50] <Dr_willis> not sure how well via is in that area however.
[04:51] <Minataku> African, but that's just the name
[04:51] <DaSkreech> khirr: do you have the mandriva Cds?
[04:51] <khirr> yes
[04:51] <khirr> dvd
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, check this out http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/
[04:51] <Aoshi> I need help!
[04:51] <khirr> i just want configure my webcam T_T
[04:51] <Aoshi> I have ntfs-config & ntfs-3g, but I still can't write in my ntfs partition!!!
[04:52] <DaSkreech> khirr: then install the make RPM
[04:52] <Jucato> anyone familiar with Bluetooth DUN? kinda need help getting IRC to work
[04:52] <khirr> exist?
[04:52] <Minataku> hitmanWilly: Heehee
[04:53] <Minataku> That last one makes no sense to me, though
[04:53] <Minataku> I like the Caldera one XD
[04:53] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, its from the warty release...
[04:53] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, google ubuntu warty naked or something like that :P
[04:53] <Minataku> Heh
[04:54] <DaSkreech> Hi Jucato
[04:54] <snake_> hi
[04:54] <snowdonkey> daskreech A guy in #ubuntu thinks slow Xterm is just a KDE bug.  :-/  Not sure I buy that...
[04:54] <DaSkreech> khirr: I don't know but I figure that it musr be on the CD
[04:54] <khirr> automake
[04:54] <DaSkreech> snowdonkey: xterm doesn't touch KDE
[04:54] <khirr> i think it should be
[04:54] <snake_> i have a problem with my wireless device in kubuntu feisty
[04:54] <Minataku> khirr: You need whatever passes for the build tools package in Mandriva
[04:55] <khirr> i'll try with this file
[04:55] <snowdonkey> daskreech: Alright, 1 myth debunked
[04:55] <Dr_willis> run a x session with Just a xterm , and see if its slow.. No kde loaded at all.
[04:55] <snake_> the light is of and i can not connect with wireless
[04:55] <khirr> is there oooooone tool for drivers for lkubuntu?
[04:55] <khirr> in esasywy?
[04:55] <snowdonkey> dr_willis Ok, I'll try that
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> snake_, what's the card model/brand?
[04:56] <snake_> even knetworkmanager can not find my wireless. anyone that can help please
[04:56] <snake_> intel 802.11
[04:56] <Minataku> Dr_willis: twm
[04:56] <Minataku> :D
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, intel usually works out of the box...
[04:56] <snake_> yes it was working but i restarted
[04:56] <Minataku> Yeah, Intel is on our side
[04:56] <snake_> and now it doesnt
[04:57] <snake_> i mean i restarted the pc
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> module issue probably
[04:57] <snake_> do i have to reinstall something
[04:57] <snake_> ??
[04:57] <khirr> do u know one easyway to configurate a via video card on kubuntu?
[04:58] <DaSkreech> snake_: Laptop?
[04:58] <snake_> yes
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> snake_, try running iwconfig in a konsole and pastebin the out put please
[04:58] <snake_> ok
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> !paste | snake_
[04:58] <DaSkreech> some laptops have a physical kill switch for the Wireless see if you tripped it
[04:58] <ubotu> snake_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:59] <Minataku> brb
[05:00] <snake_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24935/
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> snake_, ok, your wireless card is there, its just not connected to anything
[05:01] <snake_> :S
[05:01] <snake_> hitmanWilly: so what do i have to do ?
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> snake_, apparently all the drivers are loaded...
[05:01] <snowdonkey> daskreech, dr_willis: I got this error printed about 10 times when I logged in without KDE: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24937/
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> snake_, is wireless enabled in knetwork manager?
[05:01] <snake_> hitmanWilly: no
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> snake_, try enabling it
[05:02] <Dr_willis> snowdonkey,  since its a 1 line error message.. ya COULDof pasted it. :)
[05:02] <Dr_willis> ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0x3/11/04
[05:02] <snowdonkey> heh
[05:02] <Dr_willis> that seems tobe saying to me - that ya got a hard drive issue.
[05:02] <snake_> no i mean it is enabled but it doesnt show my wireless connection
[05:02] <snake_> and the light of the wireless device is off
[05:02] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: not really
[05:02] <DaSkreech> Well maybe
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> snake_, do you know the name of the network you are trying to connect to?
[05:03] <DaSkreech> it doesn't make sense to me and I've never seen it before
[05:03] <snake_> yes
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> snake_, ok, try this in konsole:
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> sudo ifup eth1
[05:03] <DaSkreech> but it could be feisty pretending that all IDE's are sata/scsi again
[05:04] <snake_> hitmanWilly: ifup: interface eth1 already configured
[05:04] <Dr_willis> translated ata error x51/40 to scsi x3/11/04 ?
[05:04] <snake_> hitmanWilly: i can find it with my kwifimanager and it connects too but i can not navigate
[05:04] <snowdonkey> daskreech: I'm running Dapper.  After googling for the exact error this page did come up (looks to be HD problem): http://www.romantika.name/v2/2006/06/24/storage-emergency/
[05:05] <Minataku> Back
[05:05] <DaSkreech> snowdonkey: well that might be an issue then
[05:05] <snake_> it connects , the light turs on but i can not navigate and do nothing
[05:05] <DaSkreech> snake_: do you get an IP
[05:05] <snake_> i use manual config
[05:05] <snake_> do i have to make dhcp ??
[05:06] <DaSkreech> can you ping the gateway?
[05:06] <hitmanWilly> snake_, yes, most wireless routers are set up for dhcp
[05:06] <DaSkreech> snake_: no
[05:06] <snake_> sure
[05:06] <snake_> i will try
[05:06] <snake_> to ping my gateway
[05:06] <Minataku> My router is split Static/Dynamic :3
[05:06] <snake_> host unreacheable
[05:07] <Minataku> snake_: Move closer
[05:07] <Minataku> j/k
[05:07] <snowdonkey> daskreech: After reading some the guy replaced his motherboard & fixed it...hrm.
[05:07] <Minataku> That's not what it means
[05:07] <Minataku> XD
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> snake_, try "iwlist scanning" in a console
[05:09] <hitmanWilly> snake_, see if that returns any results
[05:09] <snake_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24940/
[05:09] <snowdonkey> daskreech Thanks for your help getting to the bottom of this.  Same dr_willis.  :D
[05:09] <jarn> Is k3b capable of burning FLAC files?
[05:10] <DaSkreech> snowdonkey: Sure sorry about the outcome
[05:10] <DaSkreech> jarn: Why not :)
[05:10] <jarn> DaSkreech: I would assume it was, but I wasn't sure.
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> snake_, ok, you should be able to connect then...you may just have to input the ESSID manually
[05:10] <Dr_willis> jarn,  I think it is.
[05:10] <snake_> ah ok
[05:10] <jarn> DaSkreech: I know on my Windows computer I had an unbelievable amount of trouble finding something that could.
[05:10] <khirr> i just want to configurate my webcam Y_Y
[05:10] <jarn> Dr_willis: Okay, thanks.
[05:11] <snake_> hitmanWilly: you mean i have to write it manually
[05:11] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Remember that the "0x" is all important, it indicates that the following number is base 16
[05:11] <hitmanWilly> snake_, in knetwork manager select connect to other wireless network, then input the name
[05:11] <DaSkreech> jarn: Nero can
[05:12] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Sorry, I get more pedantic when I get bored
[05:12] <Minataku> XD
[05:12] <jarn> DaSkreech: Nero costs money though, no?
[05:12] <snake_> hitmanWilly: that is the problem that i do not have that option in knetwork manager
[05:12] <DaSkreech> !webcam | khirr
[05:12] <ubotu> khirr: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:12] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  it looked more like a date to me then a #
[05:12] <hitmanWilly> snake_, right clicking the system tray icon doesn't bring it up?
[05:12] <Minataku> Ah
[05:12] <Minataku> Nah, it was a hex number
[05:13] <Minataku> But you have a point looking at it again
[05:13] <Minataku> XD
[05:13] <snake_> hitmanWilly: when i right click i get manual configuration , options help and quit
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> snake_, ok, hold on a minute...
[05:14] <DaSkreech> jarn: most things on Windows do
[05:14] <jarn> DaSkreech: Indeed. But I was looking for free stuff. Hopefully k3b will meet my needs.
[05:15] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Most of those ATA/SCSI errors are crazy long and barely well-defined
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> snake_, ok, go into system settings->Network settings
[05:16] <Minataku> Like "{ DriveReady SeekComplete Error }"
[05:16] <Minataku> What is that supposed to mean, anyway?
[05:16] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  heh - isent that one of the reasons for the Ata system rewriteing?
[05:16] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Eh... I don't like how ATA is gonna be sdx now
[05:16] <Dr_willis> "Answer hazy - ask again later"
[05:16] <Minataku> That's gonna screw up so many fstabs
[05:16] <DaSkreech> jarn: well It should run on Windows come KDE4 :)
[05:16] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  yep.. but thats psrt of the reason they are using UUID stuff now.
[05:17] <DaSkreech> k3b has only failed one test for me so far
[05:17] <Minataku> Dr_willis: I don't like that crap, either
[05:17] <snake_> hitmanWilly: ok i'm there
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> snake_, does eth1 show up in the box?
[05:17] <DaSkreech> and I can't afford the money to make it fail my other test :(
[05:17] <Minataku> Since if there's ever a need to remake the UUID or it's lost somehow
[05:17] <Minataku> You're also screwed
[05:17] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  of course i ALMOST installed to the wrong Drive because of the sda/hda conversion. I had sata and ide drives.. lucnly i noticed it was about to install to my windows drive. and stopped it :)
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> snake_, under network interfaces?
[05:17] <jarn> DaSkreech: I look forward to that day so much.
[05:17] <snake_> yes
[05:17] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Why?
[05:17] <Minataku> XD
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> snake_, does it show as enabled?
[05:18] <jarn> DaSkreech: There is SO much KDE software that I love that I would love to run in Windows.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  remake the uuid? you can set the uuid as ya want i belive.
[05:18] <snake_> hitmanWilly: both of them
[05:18] <snake_> hitmanWilly: eth0 and eth1
[05:18] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Right, but the second you do your fstab is invalid
[05:18] <Dr_willis> i tend to set up the fstab to moujnt based on disk LABEL :) More readable
[05:18] <Minataku> I like setting it up to mount based on device
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> snake_, ok, you may need to set up manual configuration and have it save the settings then
[05:18] <Dr_willis> i also like to set the UUID to be stuff like 0000-0000-000001 :)
[05:18] <Minataku> I like the more traditional ways
[05:18] <snake_> hitmanWilly: that is what i have done
[05:18] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Hardly unique ;3
[05:18] <jarn> DaSkreech: Now if only it worked the other way. There is also SO much Windows software that I love that I would love to run in Linux (I'm looking at you, EAC and mp3tag!).
[05:19] <Dr_willis> Flexablity vs readablity.
[05:19] <snake_> hitmanWilly: i have the dns and all the stuff configured
[05:19] <snake_> all of them
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> snake_, is it set up for dhcp or static?
[05:20] <snake_> static
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> snake_, ok, try changing it to dhcp...see if that helps
[05:20] <Minataku> Personally, I _hate_ the porting-to-Windows thing
[05:20] <Minataku> It just gives people less reason to use Linux
[05:21] <Minataku> It basically screws up any progress we've made
[05:21] <Minataku> I say screw 'em, they wanna use it, they can switch
[05:21] <kloplop> A simple question, how do I intall the java run time environment? where It will also work in FireFox or the default browser?
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, the double edged sword of open source :P
[05:21] <Minataku> Not very nice, but damnit, a step backwards is a bad step
[05:21] <kloplop> Adept keeps freezing on me for installing J2RE
[05:22] <Dr_willis> kloplop,  what verison of kubuntu  ya using?
[05:22] <Minataku> kloplop: You make it sound like it's punishing you
[05:22] <Minataku> XD
[05:22] <kloplop> 7.10 I got it to work on 6.10 but I don't remember how
[05:22] <Dr_willis> there was an old issue where ya had to install it from the console/apt-get with some older kubuntus
[05:22] <snake_> hitmanWilly: thanx it works but isnt it better with static
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> snake_, also, is it set to activate on startup?
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> snake_, not really, at least not for regular desktop/laptop use
[05:23] <snake_> hitmanWilly: ok thanx
[05:23] <khirr> is there some wasyway to configure one via integrate card?
[05:23] <kloplop> what is the code in the consol for installing, like apt -get or whatever? I am just getting into linux.
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> snake_, also, if the router is set up to use dhcp, you kinda have to on the computer end
[05:26] <Dr_willis> !iso
[05:26] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis, you should tell the guys over on ##linux that you're using ubotu to answer their questions :P
[05:27] <Dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  :)
[05:27] <Dr_willis> half the time i forget and type !iso there.. or similer
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis, what's worse is when you try to pipe it to someone in another channel :P
[05:30] <NickPresta> kloplop, type in "man apt-get" and "man aptitude" for ways of installing via CLI
[05:31] <Dr_willis> !java
[05:31] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[05:31] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[05:31] <Dr_willis> is what i normally use
[05:32] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Well, whenever you're ready to send something out, ask me for the address to send to
[05:32] <Minataku> Or get it now, write it down and lose it like I would
[05:32] <Minataku> XD
[05:32] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  sure PM it to me. i will save it to a File.
[05:33] <DaSkreech> pm | echo > File
[05:35] <Minataku> They need to make that air pocket packing material, but fill it with helium
[05:35] <Minataku> I wonder if that would work
[05:35] <Minataku> XD
[05:35] <Minataku> Maybe shave a gram or two off the package weight X3
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, plus if the delivery guy was talking with a really high pitched voice, you'd know if he opened it :)
[05:36] <Minataku> Heehee
[05:36] <Minataku> If it was UPS it wouldn't matter, it'd still be smashed
[05:45] <sebastianhooker> whats up yall?
[05:45] <sebastianhooker> wow, for IRC, no one talks on kubuntu
[05:49] <Minataku> Way to wait 25 seconds before saying nobody was around
[05:49] <Minataku> Sorry, that was mean
[05:49] <Minataku> I just hate when people do that
[05:50] <sebastianhooker> lol
[05:50] <sebastianhooker> sorry
[05:50] <Minataku> At least you didn't quit XD
[05:50] <sebastianhooker> but seriously, look how many people are here
[05:50] <sebastianhooker> and not talkng...
[05:50] <Minataku> Usually they'll come in, wait literally 10 seconds then say "I'll come back when someone is alive"
[05:50] <Minataku> XD
[05:50] <Minataku> It's just a lull
[05:50] <sebastianhooker> ah
[05:50] <sebastianhooker> so how do u guys like ubuntu?
[05:50] <sebastianhooker> (need a topic)
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> normally this is one of the busier channels
[05:50] <sebastianhooker> that's how i thought it would b
[05:50] <sebastianhooker> e
[05:51] <sebastianhooker> so i came here XD
[05:51] <Minataku> Heehee
[05:51] <Minataku> I don't even use Ubuntu
[05:51] <sebastianhooker> hahaha
[05:51] <sebastianhooker> what r u using?
[05:51] <Minataku> I use Gentoo on modern systems and Debian on legacy systems
[05:51] <sebastianhooker> windows hahaha
[05:52] <sebastianhooker> i used to use redhat
[05:52] <sebastianhooker> anyone been to bash.org?
[05:52] <Minataku> Many times
[05:52] <sebastianhooker> .yeah
[05:52] <sebastianhooker> i came here thinking it would be amazing like that
[05:52] <sebastianhooker> turns out all we talk about is linux
[05:52] <sebastianhooker> not girls and quotes, just ubuntu and debian
[05:52] <sebastianhooker> D:
[05:53] <DaSkreech> !O-t
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about o-t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <DaSkreech> ;-)
[05:53] <sebastianhooker> ;-)
[05:53] <sebastianhooker> lol
[05:53] <sebastianhooker> so, uh, yeah, how old are y'all?
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> wow, on a linux channel we talk about...linux
[05:53] <sebastianhooker> why the nipple?
[05:53] <sebastianhooker> hitmanWilly, who let you talk?
[05:53] <Minataku> sebastianhooker: I felt the kidney would have been too predictable
[05:54] <hitmanWilly> the ops apparently...
[05:54] <sebastianhooker> hm
[05:54] <DaSkreech> Plus I sold those
[05:54] <Minataku> Plus I don't want to injure him
[05:54] <sebastianhooker> well at least now i know y'all are under 20
[05:54] <Minataku> I'm 22
[05:54] <sebastianhooker> well shit.
[05:54] <hitmanWilly> 25
[05:54] <Minataku> !language
[05:54] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:54] <sebastianhooker> well then
[05:54] <sebastianhooker> i'm sorry..
[05:54] <Minataku> s'ok
[05:55] <sebastianhooker> did you know helicopters are souls of fallen tanks?
[05:55] <sebastianhooker> (bash.org)
[05:55] <Minataku> <.<
[05:55] <Dodger73> yello... anyone know how to get a pci-express ati card to run?
[05:55] <sebastianhooker> uh
[05:55] <Dodger73> yeah i know, loaded question
[05:55] <sebastianhooker> not to run
[05:55] <Minataku> Dodger73: Add legs
[05:55] <DaSkreech> plus shinobi for the PS2
[05:55] <sebastianhooker> i can get the fan to turn on
[05:55] <hitmanWilly> !ati
[05:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:55] <DaSkreech> Dodger73: start with mornign jogs and work up from there
[05:56] <sebastianhooker> hey, uhh, geeky question here
[05:56] <Minataku> PCIe and ATI... what a bastardy combinatio
[05:56] <sebastianhooker> can i get WoW on ubuntu?
[05:56] <Minataku> n
[05:56] <DaSkreech> !wow | sebastianhooker
[05:56] <ubotu> sebastianhooker: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[05:56] <Dr_willis> ive herad that WoW can run with Cedega and Wine.
[05:56] <hitmanWilly> sebastianhooker, yeah, runs pretty well under wine/cedega from what i understand
[05:56] <sebastianhooker> yeah, but how do i get Wine to install?
[05:57] <Dr_willis> !wine
[05:57] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:57] <Dr_willis> >hic<
[05:57] <sebastianhooker> i can't stand "shell commands" i live far from the ocean
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> sebastianhooker, apt-get install wine
[05:57] <sebastianhooker> i'll install wine
[05:57] <sebastianhooker> do you have wow hitman?
[05:57] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:57] <sebastianhooker> :D
[05:57] <sebastianhooker> *gets out his shotgun to shoot a prarie-dog pummler with
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> sebastianhooker, nope
[05:58] <DaSkreech> sebastianhooker: get more wine and you won't care (or know) where you are
[05:58] <sebastianhooker> could anyone link me to a wine download site?
[05:58] <sebastianhooker> DaSkreech: wine takes too long, hard liquor por favor
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> sebastianhooker, its in the ubuntu repos, you just need to use the package manager to get it
[05:59] <sebastianhooker> aight
[06:01] <sebastianhooker> hey
[06:01] <sebastianhooker> uhh
[06:01] <sebastianhooker> password is needed on terminal
[06:01] <sebastianhooker> for a wine download
[06:01] <DaSkreech> it's your password
[06:01] <sebastianhooker> any ideas?
[06:01] <sebastianhooker> ok
[06:01] <DaSkreech> the oneyou used to login
[06:01] <sebastianhooker> it said OK
[06:02] <DaSkreech> It's lying to you
[06:02] <DaSkreech> slap it around a bit
[06:02] <Jucato> anyone familiar with Bluetooth DUN? kinda need help getting IRC to work :(
[06:02] <Jucato> Tm_T: help!!!!! :(
[06:05] <CPrgmSwR2> How do I configure apt-get to include all repositories
[06:06] <NickPresta> CPrgmSwR2, I'm not sure I understand your question. Can you explain a little more, please?
[06:06] <Minataku> Jucato...  :O
[06:06] <Minataku> XD
[06:06] <jarn> Is there any way to set up shortcuts for things that are not in KMenu?
[06:06] <DaSkreech> Minataku: I'll remember to laugh at you as well :)
[06:07] <Jucato> yes I know.. how so unlikely of me :(
[06:07] <Minataku> Haha
[06:07] <Jucato> DaSkreech: yes. Dial Up Networking
[06:07] <NickPresta> jarn, right click on a menu entry and click on "Edit Menu", then add entries.
[06:07] <Minataku> I'm just playin' and he knows it
[06:07] <jarn> NickPresta: So, essentially, no.
[06:07] <DaSkreech> Jucato: is it paired?
[06:07] <Minataku> We all need help now and again :3
[06:07] <Jucato> DaSkreech: everything is working *except* IRC :(
[06:07] <alberto> hey
[06:07] <alberto> q tal?
[06:07] <NickPresta> jarn, yes, you can setup "shortcuts". What exactly did you want to accomplish?
[06:07] <Jucato> just apt-get'ed irssi in fact :)
[06:07] <CPrgmSwR2> I just got through installing kubuntu form the cd
[06:07] <alberto> alguien sabe como es el servidor hispaon?
[06:07] <DaSkreech> !es | alberto
[06:07] <ubotu> alberto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:07] <CPrgmSwR2> but there is a lot of packages missing for apt-get
[06:08] <DaSkreech> !repos | CPrgmSwR2
[06:08] <ubotu> CPrgmSwR2: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:08] <Jucato> CPrgmSwR2: you need to enable some of there other repositories
[06:08] <NickPresta> CPrgmSwR2, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[06:08] <jarn> NickPresta: I said I want to do it for things that aren't in the menu. You told me that to do it I needed to add it to the menu. Isn't that a no?
[06:09] <DaSkreech> jarn: what are you asking?
[06:09] <NickPresta> jarn, yes you can add things which are not currently present in KMenu. You need to manually add them.
[06:09] <CPrgmSwR2> I can't seem to add repositories
[06:09] <jarn> NickPresta: But I don't want to add them to the menu. I want to set up shortcuts for things that aren't in the menu and that I don't want to be in the menu.
[06:09] <sebastianhooker> i'm installing wine all by myself :D
[06:09] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: What do you mean?
[06:09] <CPrgmSwR2> I have no option to manage apt-get
[06:10] <DaSkreech> jarn: yes you can
[06:10] <NickPresta> jarn: Ah, you should've said you don't want them in the menu (but want something like desktop shortcuts). Yes you can
[06:10] <CPrgmSwR2> Adept -> Manage Repositories
[06:10] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: press alt+space -> adept -> Enter
[06:10] <CPrgmSwR2> I don't have this option in the menu
[06:10] <Minataku> Jucato: Sorry, you know I'm just playing around, right? :3
[06:10] <NickPresta> jarn, right click on your desktop and then go to New > Add Link to Application.
[06:10] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: and close that adept
[06:10] <Jucato> Minataku: yep :P
[06:10] <Minataku> k ^^
[06:10] <Dr_willis> CPrgmSwR2,  did it ask for your sudo password when it started?
[06:11] <CPrgmSwR2> yes
[06:11] <jarn> NickPresta: Hrm, I should have been more clear. I meant hotkey shortcuts.
[06:11] <CPrgmSwR2> thats different
[06:11] <Minataku> Wouldn't using a cellphone for DUN be insanely expensive?
[06:11] <jarn> NickPresta: As in pressing a combination of buttons and a program opens. Sorry about that. :/
[06:11] <sebastianhooker> hey uhh where does wine come up after you install it?
[06:11] <Jucato> Minataku: not much difference as going to a cyber cafe over here. besides I'm desperate :)
[06:11] <alberto> hola alguienm dice cual es 3l servidor delcanal corua?
[06:12] <alberto> por ejempl irc ispano?
[06:12] <Minataku> Jucato: Heehee
[06:12] <Jucato> no wireless on this thing (broken), and leaving in a couple of hours
[06:12] <soulrider> !es  alberto
[06:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es  alberto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <soulrider> !es | alberto
[06:12] <ubotu> alberto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:12] <soulrider> jucato, i finally find you here!
[06:12] <sebastianhooker> So where does wine come up after i install it?
[06:12] <alberto> suldiers
[06:12] <Jucato> hi soulrider
[06:12] <soulrider> i sa win your blog you had some trouble with recursion, i can explain a bit if you want
[06:12] <alberto> tu lo conoces?
[06:13] <DaSkreech> !es | alberto
[06:13] <ubotu> alberto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:13] <Minataku> alberto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:13] <soulrider> alberto: para espa~nol entra a #kubuntu-es y a #ubuntu-es
[06:13] <Minataku> JIC he has the bot ignored or something
[06:14] <NickPresta> jarn, Oh! Yes, you should've been more clear :P In KControl (or System Settings), you should navigate to Accessibility > Input Actions. There you can create custom actions that do tons of stuff
[06:14] <ShiftedBeef> sebastian, not sure, but you can use wine on something by right clicking on it if it doesn't automatically, and you can also run winecfg if you want to config it.
[06:14] <Jucato> hmph brb. :)
[06:14] <Minataku> Bienvenidos a Homestarrunner.com! Conoces a Miguel? Si, somos buenos amigos... <offscreen: "English!>
[06:14] <Minataku> XD
[06:14] <Minataku> Ack, unterminated quotes
[06:14] <jarn> NickPresta: Yeah, I'm sorry about that.
[06:15] <DaSkreech> Minataku: ummm No! What?
[06:15] <rodrigo> hey daskreech
[06:15] <NickPresta> jarn, no problem. Shortcuts can mean many things so it was bound to be misunderstood by someone, I suppose.
[06:15] <sebastianhooker> WHY DIDNT WINE INSTALL?
[06:15] <rodrigo> what's up!
[06:15] <Minataku> DaSkreech: Heehee, quote from HSR
[06:15] <soulrider> sebastianhooker: its installed
[06:15] <Minataku> sebastianhooker: Type "wine" into a console
[06:15] <CPrgmSwR2> This is fun
[06:15] <sebastianhooker> ok
[06:15] <soulrider> just type wine <path to an exe file>
[06:15] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: hello :)
[06:15] <rodrigo> Daskreech
[06:15] <Minataku> It's a wrapper system
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Minataku: Do you have the DNA evidence ?
[06:16] <Minataku> Not a standalone program
[06:16] <DaSkreech> rodrigo
[06:16] <sebastianhooker> ohhh
[06:16] <rodrigo> <DaSkreech haha
[06:16] <sebastianhooker> duh
[06:16] <sebastianhooker> THANKS!
[06:16] <Minataku> DaSkreech: Didn't you hear? That was solved. :D
[06:16] <Minataku> sebastianhooker: np
[06:16] <Minataku> !caps
[06:16] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!  When?
[06:16] <ShiftedBeef> What I said should have worked, but oh well.
[06:16] <Minataku> DaSkreech: It was a toon
[06:16] <rodrigo> I studies journalism
[06:17] <rodrigo> so this may help to Linux community
[06:17] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: that would be wonderful
[06:17] <Minataku> They wrapped up the whole "DNA Evidence" thing
[06:17] <jarn> NickPresta: I was in Keyboard Shortcuts rather than Input Actions, and from Keyboard Shortcuts it appears that you can only set up shortcuts for things in KMenu.
[06:17] <alberto> alguien m dice cual es el servidor hispano?
[06:17] <sebastianhooker> oh snap i love you guys
[06:17] <sebastianhooker> so much
[06:17] <Minataku> Go to the Toons page
[06:17] <DaSkreech> Minataku: link@!
[06:17] <Minataku> alberto: #kubuntu-es
[06:17] <ShiftedBeef> Awwww. :)
[06:17] <Minataku> !es | alberto
[06:17] <ubotu> alberto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:17] <rodrigo> Daskreech: do you feel in the mood of trying to install again cinellera?
[06:17] <Minataku> !pr | alberto
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <Minataku> Er
[06:17] <Minataku> !br | alberto
[06:17] <ubotu> alberto: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:17] <Minataku> In case he needs Portugeuese
[06:17] <NickPresta> jarn, Yes, in Keyboard Shortcuts, you can only setup hotkeys for specific things. In Input Actions, you can do it for anything (applications, keyboard functions, etc)
[06:17] <rodrigo> daskrecch: we make a lot of work yesterday
[06:17] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: we didn't do it the last time?
[06:18] <DaSkreech> open adept and install cinelerra
[06:18] <DaSkreech> I think that should work
[06:18] <rodrigo> daskreech ok let me try it
[06:18] <jarn> NickPresta: Hrm, I can't get it to work, though. I did "New Action", set "Action Type" to "Keyboard Shortcut -> Command/URL (simple)", set the Keyboard Shortcut to "Win + E" and set the command to "/usr/bin/konqueror /home/jarn" and clicked "Apple". However, when I press those keys, nothing happens. :(
[06:19] <rodrigo> daskreech: ok Im in adept manager I'll paste the program name (cinellera)
[06:19] <DaSkreech> in the search
[06:19] <Minataku> wb, Jucato
[06:20] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :-)
[06:20] <sebastianhooker> alright, next question
[06:20] <DaSkreech>  I just won the 10 Million dollar lotto for buying MS office
[06:20] <sebastianhooker> how can i install my graphics card driver?
[06:20] <ShiftedBeef> Yeah no results here either.
[06:20] <Minataku> !drivers
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <Minataku> !ati
[06:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:20] <Minataku> There ya go
[06:20] <DaSkreech> and the last MS office I bought didn't even have years in the title
[06:20] <ShiftedBeef> Odd that it isn't installed already.
[06:20] <rodrigo> Daskreech: sorry firend it doesn't appear on the menu
[06:21] <soulrider> DaSkreech: lol
[06:21] <NickPresta> jarn, I just did what you wanted (control+alt+H brings me to my /home) by selecting the action type of Keyboard Shortcut -> Command/URL (simple) and the action to be "konqueror ~/"
[06:21] <DaSkreech> ShiftedBeef: what isn't?
[06:21] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: press Fetch updates
[06:21] <ShiftedBeef> Vid card drivers.
[06:21] <soulrider> DaSkreech: i didnt know the staandard one costed $400 its friggin insane
[06:21] <NickPresta> jarn, make sure you Apply the new action before you try it
[06:21] <ShiftedBeef> Mine are preinstalled.
[06:21] <soulrider> just for excel word powerpoint and outlook
[06:21] <sebastianhooker> yeah i think it's nvidia
[06:21] <Minataku> I use OpenOffice.org
[06:21] <DaSkreech> ShiftedBeef: they aren't free
[06:21] <soulrider> its just retarded!
[06:21] <Minataku> Because it's better and cheaper.
[06:22] <ShiftedBeef> Ok you lost me.
[06:22] <rodrigo> daskreech done it and nothing
[06:22] <DaSkreech> Minataku: I'd love to see you back up the better :0
[06:22] <jarn> NickPresta: I clicked "Apply". I changed it to "konqueror ~/" and it still doesn't work... I'll try ctrl+alt+h, maybe it doesn
[06:22] <DaSkreech> unless you are a journalist
[06:22] <jarn> NickPresta: doesn't like the Windows eky.
[06:22] <ShiftedBeef> I have full functionality of my vid card.
[06:22] <DaSkreech> then it should be better
[06:22] <DaSkreech>  rodrigo can you pastebin the contents of the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:23] <NickPresta> jarn, do you have Beryl or Compiz installed?
[06:23] <jarn> NickPresta: Nope.
[06:23] <ShiftedBeef> If my vid card drivers aren't free, well I lost functionality of something I suppose.
[06:23] <jarn> NickPresta: Hrm, and that didn't work either, even when I set it to the same things you had.
[06:23] <rodrigo> pastebin?? file/ryv/apt/sources .list?
[06:23] <jarn> NickPresta: Just nothing happens for me. :(
[06:23] <NickPresta> jarn, okay, because Win+H makes the window expand to full width. Just making sure. Let me switch to KWin and see what happens
[06:23] <DaSkreech> !paste | rodrigo
[06:23] <ubotu> rodrigo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:23] <rodrigo> daskreech Im just beginning to speak linux
[06:24] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: and it's /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:24] <jarn> NickPresta: Okay. Thanks for helping me with this. :)
[06:25] <rodrigo> daskreech ok let me take a look
[06:25] <NickPresta> jarn, I just tried it in KWin and Win+H works (brings up Konqueror at ~/).
[06:25] <NickPresta> jarn, could it be possible that you have this action disabled (on the General tab)?
[06:25] <jarn> NickPresta: That was the first thing I checked and it's not disabled.
[06:26] <jarn> NickPresta: That is to say, the Disable box is unchecked.
[06:26] <rodrigo> ok daskreech I got the pastebin thing but not too much the last thing  /etc/apt/sources.list is a command?
[06:26] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: it's a file
[06:26] <NickPresta> jarn, where did you create this action? Is it possible that the group you created it in is disabled?
[06:27] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: you can open it in any editor
[06:27] <jarn> NickPresta: I didn't put it in a group. I also checked the Global settings to make sure everything wasn't disabled there.
[06:27] <sebastianhooker> brb
[06:27] <sebastianhooker> gotta restart
[06:27] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: alt+F2 -> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:27] <rodrigo> so I paste it in the pastebin?
[06:28] <rodrigo> daskreech wow It open the soruces.list
[06:29] <rodrigo> do you want me to copy it in pastebin?
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Yes :)
[06:29] <Billiard> hey if i install something from source, how would i ever uninstall it?
[06:29] <rodrigo> all of it?
[06:29] <NickPresta> jarn, I just put the action outside of a group (no group) and tried it. It still works for me.
[06:29] <soulrider> Billiard: you gotta make a deb package
[06:29] <Ryiel> Ubuntu is a great distro. Even the dev snapshout pre alpha release is stable enough as long as you don't try to do something with it :D
[06:29] <rodrigo> done
[06:29] <ShiftedBeef> Allright, can anyone point me somewhere where I can get help running wine on 64 bit Kubuntu 7.04?
[06:29] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: yes pleease
[06:29] <Billiard> soulrider alright
[06:29] <ShiftedBeef> Sorry WoW on Wine.
[06:29] <rodrigo> daskreech: done, should I push paste?
[06:30] <ShiftedBeef> The rest was correct. :)
[06:30] <Billiard> soulrider what should i use to make a deb
[06:30] <willy-boy> hello all
[06:30] <jarn> NickPresta: Hrm... want me to upload screenshots? Maybe I'm missing something obvious.
[06:30] <rodrigo> daskreech: what should y select in the sintax box?
[06:30] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: yes and paste teh URL that you get here
[06:30] <jarn> NickPresta: Then I can show you how I have it set up.
[06:30] <willy-boy> my kubuntu cds has arrived
[06:31] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: leave that alone
[06:31] <soulrider> Billiard: install build-essential and checkinstall
[06:31] <DaSkreech> willy-boy: Yay!
[06:31] <soulrider> basically you do ./configure
[06:31] <soulrider> make
[06:31] <soulrider> and then checkinstall
[06:31] <soulrider> !compiling
[06:31] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:31] <NickPresta> jarn, sure. You may want to whisper me though to send all of them. :)
[06:31] <ShiftedBeef> Allright, can anyone point me somewhere where I can get help running WoW on Wine on 64 bit Kubuntu 7.04? There, that is the correct question.
[06:31] <rodrigo> daskreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24945/
[06:31] <jarn> NickPresta: Will do.
[06:31] <willy-boy> hau daskreech
[06:31] <timd> need some help...
[06:31] <willy-boy> i'm installed now
[06:32] <timd> No plugin found to handle this resource (dvd:///dev/hdc)
[06:32] <willy-boy> installing ...
[06:32] <rodrigo> daskreech: by the way: you work for kubuntu or this is voluntary or how does this work
[06:32] <timd> i JUST installed kubuntu FF
[06:32] <ShiftedBeef> I got the Wine part done. Got Diablo 2 working. Cinch.
[06:32] <rodrigo> any way is great having help here!
[06:32] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: We bill you at the end of the month
[06:32] <rodrigo> ouh"
[06:32] <rodrigo> !
[06:32] <jarn> NickPresta: Hrm... I think something more is going on.
[06:32] <rodrigo> I can pay you with draws"
[06:33] <sebastianhooker_> miss me?
[06:33] <rodrigo> !
[06:33] <sstchur_> how do I install themes in kubuntu?  I can't find the option like there is with a traditional kde install
[06:33] <rodrigo> Im having a look of blender
[06:33] <jarn> NickPresta: For some reason the PrtScrn hotkey isn't working either.
[06:33] <rodrigo> nise program
[06:33] <DaSkreech> !dvd | timd
[06:33] <ubotu> timd: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:33] <willy-boy> rodrigo ...  work on ubuntu ?
[06:33] <rodrigo> but still, I believe the programs in linux are very unfriendly
[06:33] <jarn> NickPresta: And I didn't set that up and I know it worked earlier today.
[06:33] <NickPresta> jarn, do you have the hotkey daemon disabled or shut down?
[06:33] <timd> ty
[06:33] <jarn> NickPresta: I don't, I checked when I noticed that.
[06:33] <jarn> NickPresta: Should I try restarting it?
[06:34] <rodrigo> but you can't get too exigent with free stuf lol
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Minataku: moment of your time
[06:34] <Minataku> What's up?
[06:34] <sebastianhooker_> i love the ubuntu philosophy
[06:34] <DaSkreech> can You check if you have cinelerra in your packages ?
[06:34] <Minataku> Sure
[06:34] <rodrigo> thanks minataku
[06:34] <rodrigo> don't have the pleasure
[06:35] <rodrigo> but thanks
[06:35] <Minataku> Yes
[06:35] <Dr_willis> $ apt-cache search cinelerra
[06:35] <Dr_willis> xmovie - a nice video player for uncompressed Quicktime, MPEG streams and more
[06:35] <jarn> NickPresta: I killed khotkeys and started it up again and PrtScrn still doesn't work.
[06:35] <Dr_willis> heh odd
[06:35] <Minataku> media-video/cinelerra-cvs
[06:35] <Dr_willis> !find  cinelerra
[06:35] <DaSkreech> Minataku: did you add that yourself?
[06:35] <ubotu> Package/file cinelerra does not exist in feisty
[06:35] <Minataku> Labelled as "Unofficial CVS version"
[06:35] <Minataku> DaSkreech: No
[06:35] <Minataku> Portage allows for CVS packages :3
[06:36] <DaSkreech> Minataku: right on gentoo :-P
[06:36] <jarn> NickPresta: I may just try rebooting when the CD that I'm burning finishes.
[06:36] <Minataku> It seems to be a snapshotted version, though
[06:36] <rodrigo> ok  now this is linux talking
[06:36] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: So no?
[06:36] <Minataku> Since the version isn't 9999
[06:36] <jarn> NickPresta: Because I /know/ prtscrn worked earlier today.
[06:36] <NickPresta> jarn, Hmm. I dont know what to tell you aside from rebooting. Perhaps a google search (something like "hotkeys stopped working ubuntu") will yield some results.
[06:36] <jarn> NickPresta: Thanks, I'll do that.
[06:36] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  not in the repos it seems
[06:36] <Minataku> Typically a download-from-cvs package in Gentoo will have the version "9999"
[06:36] <jpmaiden> hola tengo una duda co kubuntu
[06:36] <Minataku> This one has a date, "20070122"
[06:36] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: can you add this repo deb http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/ubuntu/feisty/cinelerra/athlonxp/ ./
[06:36] <rodrigo> hola mano
[06:36] <jpmaiden> haycalguien q hble espaol
[06:37] <Dr_willis> Cineralla i hear  is a rather Odd   program. ;
[06:37] <rodrigo> el que habla espaol
[06:37] <Minataku> !es | jpmaiden
[06:37] <ubotu> jpmaiden: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:37] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: see if it gets added after you add that
[06:37] <mark_> I'm interested in installing kde 3.5.6 for my edgy installation.  I have the repository entry but I need the key... any takes?
[06:37] <mark_> ~kde
[06:37] <mark_> !kde