[11:24] <iarinov> how to change keyboard layout?
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> iarinov: which deskotp, or is it server?
[11:24] <vvvvv> let me check if that solves it
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> iarinov: details!
[11:24] <iarinov> ActionParsnip: ubuntu 13
[11:25] <iarinov> ubuntu 13.10
[11:25] <iarinov> default desktop
[11:25] <Hawkerz> gartral, does suspend/resume work on that machine?
[11:25] <iarinov> i have two keyboard layouts and super+space does not work
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> iarinov: if you search for keyboard in Dash, do you not get a handy application?
[11:26] <iarinov> ActionParsnip: i get it
[11:26] <iarinov> ActionParsnip: then should i choose layout settings then?
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> iarinov: not sure from there, try in that app
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> iarinov: let me search
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> iarinov: try CTRL+SPACE or ALT+SPACE
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> iarinov: http://askubuntu.com/questions/362041/problem-setting-keyboard-shortcuts-after-upgrade-to-saucy
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> iarinov: http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/ubuntu-reviews/ubuntu-13-10/ keyboard stuff mentioned here too
[11:39] <mastroWork> I need to downgrade libc -- I execute this command: sudo apt-get install libc-bin:amd64=2.17-0ubuntu5 multiarch-support:amd64=2.17-0ubuntu5 libc6-dev:amd64=2.17-0ubuntu5 libc-dev-bin:amd64=2.17-0ubuntu5 libc6:amd64=2.17-0ubuntu5
[11:39] <mastroWork> but it also want to remove many packages
[11:39] <Ben64> yeah well don't do that :S
[11:39] <mastroWork> can I downgrade without removing those packages?
[11:39] <Gregor_> anyone knows a good software for remote desktop
[11:40] <Ben64> mastroWork: why would you need to
[11:40] <gartral> Hawkerz: yes, but doesn't solve
[11:40] <mastroWork> Ben64, I'm facing a weird bug with development
[11:40] <vvvvv> ActionParsnip: CatKiller thanks .. got it workng :) thanks alot guys
[11:40] <Ben64> Gregor_: theres tons of vnc clients/servers
[11:40] <gartral> anything
[11:40] <puguh> <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:40] <mastroWork> Ben64, I had a tool generating binary files. Files generated before this friday works
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: what are you intending to do on the remote PC once you get connected?
[11:40] <mastroWork> Ben64, files generated today don't
[11:40] <vvvvv> was too busy looking at all the wrong places
[11:40] <Ben64> report a bug then
[11:40] <mastroWork> Ben64, so I'm trying to downgrade my system to friday state
[11:41] <mastroWork> Ben64, can't wait for a bug and the bug happen with a third party product (Android jobb tool) so nobody will care
[11:41] <mastroWork> Ben64, now back to the problem, how do I downgrade without making apt remove my packages?
[11:41] <Ben64> if you never report it, it might never get fixed
[11:41] <mastroWork> I'll report it if the problem is there
[11:42] <mastroWork> Ben64, I'll know if the problem is there if I downgrade, try to generate the file and discover that was the issue
[11:42] <mastroWork> now, how do I downgrade libc without apt-get removing lot of packages?
[11:42] <mastroWork> is that even possible?
[11:42] <Gregor_> is teamspeak working offline
[11:43] <Gregor_> ahm
[11:43] <Gregor_> i mean teamviewer
[11:43] <puguh> 1289.345.34
[11:43] <Ben64> teamviewer is not really a good choice
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: you may find there is a sleker solution to what you want to us desktop accessing for
[11:43] <gordonjcp> Gregor_: what are you trying to do?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: there is a known bug with 64bit and teamviewer though
[11:43] <Gregor_> can you use teamviewer if the teamviewer servers are offline?
[11:43] <AndroUser> I am haveing problems with xorg, i think, and don't know how to fix it. I've been reading things online for the past 8 hours
[11:44] <mastroWork> Ben64, --no-remove give error: E: Packages need to be removed but remove is disabled.
[11:44] <AndroUser> :-(
[11:44] <Gregor_> I want to remote a server
[11:44] <Ben64> Gregor_: ssh
[11:44] <Gregor_> ssh?
[11:44] <Ben64> !ssh | Gregor_
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: to do what though?? This is my question?
[11:44] <lukecarrier> Hi all, how're people finding the upgrade to Saucy?
[11:44] <Ben64> mastroWork: raring?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: lets suppose you get connected and can see the desktop, what are you going to do on the remote system>
[11:44] <rajat> hey , there is a bug in ubuntu 13.04 that doesn't allow  the netbeans  to start . anyone knowledgable about it (with openjdk 6 )
[11:44] <mastroWork> Ben64, I upgraded libc from 2.17-0ubuntu5, 2.17-0ubuntu5.1 -- no other file have been upgraded so why should it remove them?
[11:44] <AndroUser> Startx doesn'h fail, but it is Just black
[11:45] <gordonjcp> Gregor_: use ssh
[11:45] <AndroUser> Saucy broke my work cowputer.....
[11:45] <gordonjcp> Gregor_: servers don't have graphical desktops
[11:45] <k1l> AndroUser: dont use startx
[11:45] <lukecarrier> Looks like some of my PPAs have caused it bomb out
[11:45] <k1l> AndroUser: start the desktop with "sudo service lightdm start"
[11:45] <Gregor_> Lol
[11:45] <Ben64> mastroWork: you may be able to select the older version from synaptic
[11:45] <AndroUser> K11, same thing
[11:45] <AndroUser> Black
[11:45] <Gregor_> and for remoting a pc with graphical desktop?
[11:46] <AndroUser> Oh wait
[11:46] <k1l> AndroUser: then see the logs. like .xsession-errors in /home
[11:46] <AndroUser> K11, it says failed to start
[11:46] <Ben64> Gregor_: vnc over ssh
[11:46] <gordonjcp> Gregor_: no idea, it's not something I've ever felt the need to do
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: but to what end? There may be a sleeker way than steaming the whole desktop. This is what I am saying to you
[11:46] <Ben64> but yeah, you should never need to have a gui on a server
[11:46] <puguh> sorrii
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: if you can give me examples of activities you plan to do. I may be able to advise
[11:46] <binyod> hello everyone, is there a tool on ubuntu to convert .flv video files into audio?
[11:46] <binyod> possibly .mp3
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: are you wanting to see the desktop to run updates?
[11:47] <cfhowlett> binyod, ffmpeg will do it
[11:47] <Ben64> binyod: ffmpeg, mencoder, mplayer
[11:47] <Gregor_> i only want to remote the desktop
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> binyod: are the flv's downloaded from youtube by any chance?
[11:47] <Gregor_> like with teamviewer
[11:47] <AndroUser> K11, the xsesion errocs say software acceleration check failed
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: but why?
[11:47] <gordonjcp> binyod: play it back with mplayer, set video output to null and audio output to wave, or pcm (can't remember which)
[11:47] <Gregor_> but i think teamviewer isnt good
[11:47] <k1l> AndroUser: which video card and what driver do you got?
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: why do you want the desktop?
[11:48] <mastroWork> Ben64, ok it forced me to also downgrade libc6:i386
[11:48] <binyod> cfhowlett, thank you! will install and try them now
[11:48] <binyod> Ben64, thank you!
[11:48] <AndroUser> I'm using the intel hd 3000, don't know how to check driver k11
[11:48] <binyod> ActionParsnip, yes!
[11:48] <Gregor_> because im a noob and dont know tty or telnet commands
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> binyod: then you are wasting time
[11:48] <cfhowlett> binyod, have fun!
[11:48] <k1l> AndroUser: ok, the drivers are in the kernel already.
[11:48] <Ben64> Gregor_: if you have a server you really should learn them!
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> binyod: www.youtube-mp3.org
[11:48] <mastroWork> Ben64, should I reboot for libc downgrade to take action?
[11:48] <binyod> gordonjcp, thank you for the hints!
[11:49] <gordonjcp> Gregor_: yeah, you need to use the command line to work with servers
[11:49] <Gregor_> ok
[11:49] <Ben64> mastroWork: probably
[11:49] <gordonjcp> Gregor_: even in Windows
[11:49] <mastroWork> Ben64, (thank you)
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: again, what are you wanting to do on the remote PC? Not everything is command line
[11:49] <Gregor_> your right
[11:49] <mastroWork> brb
[11:49] <gordonjcp> Gregor_: Windows servers don't use GUIs either
[11:49] <AndroUser> K11 coo. I'm using 3.11, it just upgraded from 3.8
[11:49] <Gregor_> only for fun
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> binyod: that site will do it for you, saves a lot of time and effort
[11:49] <binyod> ActionParsnip, it'd already not worked with soundconverter :)
[11:49] <Gregor_> want to try things out
[11:49] <Guest25922> hi. trying xubuntu13.10 using liveusb on p4 with intel graphics controller 82865g. the working is smooth but the graphics are not.. the desktop looks like this. http://s9.postimg.org/5wf2wi59r/Screenshot_10232013_11_44_53_AM.png how do i install or activate the appropriate driver?
[11:49] <Gregor_> and i also dont have a real server
[11:49] <Ben64> fun and server don't really mix, thats how people get hacked
[11:50] <Gregor_> only a pc at home
[11:50] <Ben64> then use some iteration of vnc
[11:50] <binyod> ActionParsnip, thank you! this looks great, will try it now!
[11:50] <Gregor_> vnc
[11:50] <Gregor_> is vnc a protocoll like irc?
[11:50] <k1l> AndroUser: can you pastebin the logs? so others could have a read for suggestions?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: you can use VNC over SSH but you are basically wasting resources. You can run updates via SSH and access your fles securely over SFP
[11:51] <binyod> ActionParsnip, the problem is that the video I convert is >20 min. :(
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: you can manage torrents using web interfaces in clients, which phones can also communicate with
[11:51] <Gregor_> SFP?
[11:51] <binyod> they don't convert videos longer than 20 min.
[11:51] <AndroUser> How do i do that? I can't get to a browser on the computer taht needs help
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> binyod: is ther ea limit on the site?
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: SFTP
[11:51] <binyod> ActionParsnip, yes
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> binyod: oh :(
[11:51] <Gregor_> you meen FTP?
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: no, SFTP Secure File Transfer Protocol
[11:52] <cfhowlett> binyod, pretty sure you can import .flv audio into audacity and output your .mp3
[11:52] <k1l> !pastebinit | AndroUser
[11:52] <Gregor_> That is saver thean FTP?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: but you would NOT tell me what you were wantingf to do so I could not advise better
[11:52] <Hawkerz> gartral, my question about suspend/resume was not directly related to the graphics issue -- it often causes a lot of prroblems if you suspend a linux install
[11:52] <Gregor_> only playing around
[11:52] <Gregor_> im interrested in those things
[11:52] <Gregor_> nothing more
[11:53] <AndroUser> Paste.ubuntu.com/6288586
[11:53] <gartral> Hawkerz: it doesn't seem to matter
[11:53] <binyod> cfhowlett, Ben64, for everyone's information: ffmpeg is apparently no more in use. after install when  I tried to start it I got this message :  THIS PROGRAM IS DEPRECATED ***
[11:53] <binyod> This program is only provided for compatibility and will be removed in a future release. Please use avconv instead.
[11:53] <AndroUser> That's xsession, k11
[11:53] <Hawkerz> gartral, what IRC client are you using?
[11:53] <gordonjcp> Gregor_: SFTP isn't much like FTP at all
[11:53] <Gregor_> but im planing to get a server with teamspeak, irc and maybe a game like counterstrike
[11:54] <Ben64> binyod: yeah, same thing, different name
[11:54] <Gregor_> whats the diffrence
[11:54] <AndroUser> What else should i upload?
[11:54] <binyod> Ben64, oh, ok
[11:54] <Gregor_> between ftp and sftp
[11:54] <AndroUser> Lightdm log?, k11
[11:54] <gordonjcp> Gregor_: well, FTP is basically like posting your usernames and passwords on reddit and hoping that no-one notices
[11:54] <cfhowlett> binyod, yea, avconv is the new one, but i don't know how to use it.  FYI< confirmed that Audacity will import .flv and export .mp3
[11:54] <gordonjcp> Gregor_: SFTP does everything over ssh
[11:54] <binyod> cfhowlett, trying audacity now, though I'm not very familiar with it yet
[11:55] <Gregor_> at sftp noone can sniff the password?
[11:55] <cfhowlett> binyod, import the .flv.  export the .mp3
[11:55] <Gregor_> right?
[11:55] <binyod> cfhowlett, thank you! I'll try now
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: its 128bit encrypted, so no
[11:55] <Hawkerz> gartral, also, can you run glxgears?
[11:55] <gartral> Hawkerz: irssi through terminal
[11:55] <AndroUser> Paste.Ubuntu.com/6288596 lightdm log
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: hence why its call SFTP, not FTP (FTP sends everything in plain text)
[11:56] <gartral> Hawkerz: indeed i cal
[11:56] <gartral> can*
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: once more, WHY do you want to access the desktop on the server? What activities do you want to do?
[11:56] <Gregor_> so its easier to catch the login data?
[11:56] <binyod> cfhowlett, there are options to import; audio, labels, midi, raw data.. which one is the right one for .flv?
[11:56] <Gregor_> its not a server
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: I see loads of people running VNC servers then opening terminals and working in CLI
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: if you run something you can get a connection to, it is a server
[11:57] <cfhowlett> binyod, try open the .flv in audacity.
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: the server serves the service
[11:57] <Hawkerz> gardar, what does it give you as your fps
[11:57] <Gregor_> lol
[11:57] <Hawkerz> gartral*
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: why 'lol' ?
[11:57] <AndroUser> K11, thoughts?
[11:57] <Gregor_> i want to help friends on their pcs
[11:57] <gartral> Hawkerz: between 235 and 42 fps
[11:57] <Gregor_> the server runs the service
[11:57] <Gregor_> that rimes!
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: then you need the teamviewer client, not server
[11:57] <Gregor_> xD
[11:58] <Gregor_> because they have to open ports
[11:58] <Gregor_> right
[11:58] <Gregor_> if i use vnc
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: yes but if you wnat to connect to them, then you need the client, not the server
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: THEY will run the server and your client will connect to their server
[11:59] <binyod> I'm just wondering.. soundconverter used to work all the time. it is not converting lately.
[11:59] <Gregor_> and if i use vnc for this they have to open ports
[11:59] <Gregor_> right?
[11:59] <Hawkerz> gartral, can you pm me? irssi has /exec right?
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Gregor_: yes and you will connect to their WAN IP
[12:02] <Paterito> I have a question why when I type su and press enter it says authentication failed? I'm on ubuntu live
[12:02] <Gregor_> but can you use teamviewer when the teamviewer servers are offline
[12:02] <gordonjcp> Paterito: do you mean "sudo"?
[12:02] <cordell> Paterito: try sudo su if you need root access for something
[12:05] <Gregor_> and if i have an vnc server running on pc
[12:05] <Paterito> gordonjcp: I want su please
[12:05] <Paterito> can it be done?
[12:06] <Gregor_> can i access from another vnc client
[12:06] <gordonjcp> !sudo | Paterito
[12:06] <Gregor_> client from another company
[12:10] <binyod> cfhowlett, I will be able to convert the file to mp3, but there was another problem here. though I wanted to convert to mp3, I had earlier somehow problem playing some files with my mp3 player (!). I don't know if this relates to the format itself. it is a sony walkman, if you're familiar with it. is there any other format you might suggest which would surely play?
[12:10] <mastro> Ben64, nope, downgrading didn't helped ... I'll re-upgrade
[12:10] <binyod> sorry for the long explanation! :)
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:12] <AndroUser> K11? I really need to fix this :-(
[12:13] <jackfinn> ask.fm is not detecting my webcam? it says "Please turn your camera on or make sure that it is not in use by another application"
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Paterito: you can, just run:   su username
[12:15] <jackfinn> ActionParsnip: hello.
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Paterito: Linux is true multiuser, so you can become any user you know the password of
[12:15] <jackfinn> ActionParsnip: How can I know if /etc/rc.local executed my script or not.
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Paterito: so yes, you can use su
[12:15] <jackfinn> I just added /opt/actionparsnipexample.sh in /etc/rc.local
[12:15] <jackfinn> hello actionparsnip
[12:15] <jackfinn> ?
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> jackfinn: you could add a line in your script to put a file on your user's desktop
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> jackfinn: hi
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> jackfinn: is the file marked executable?
[12:16] <vlt> jackfinn: Or append something to a logfile
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> jackfinn: does it have the top line of:   #!/bin/bash
[12:16] <jackfinn> lemme check
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> jackfinn: you do realise that the '.sh' file extension does nothing at all
[12:16] <jackfinn> #!/bin/sh -e
[12:17] <jackfinn> /etc/rc.local starts with #!/bin/sh -e
[12:17] <greek> Hi. I've got a newly installed Lenovo X230 laptop with Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 LTS. I'd like to install the graphics drivers (currently under System Details under Graphics it says Drivers "unknown"). How do I go about doing this? The graphics card is an Intel HD Graphics 4000.
[12:17] <foofoobar> k1l, hi. You helped me a few days/weeks ago with my dell xps 13. I had a problem with my wifi connection which dropped the connection from time to time.
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> jackfinn: yes but does your script?
[12:17] <jackfinn> I want /etc/rc.local to EXECUTE a script on startup.
[12:17] <jackfinn> do you get my point?
[12:17] <foofoobar> Your patch fixed it However I noticed something strange: I still have connection problems.. Not connection drops, but it "lags" sometimes
[12:17] <foofoobar> k1l, http://pastebin.com/V4ZK9Uxs
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> jackfinn: yes but if the shell doesnt know what language you are using, how can it use it
[12:20] <jackfinn> my script does start with #!/bin/bash
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> jackfinn: again, is the top line of /opt/actionparsnipexample.sh    #!/bin/bash   ?
[12:20] <jackfinn> yes
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> jackfinn: then it wil be ran
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> jackfinn: you can add a line to make a file on your user desktop so that you know it ran
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> jackfinn: eg:    echo "success" | tee /home/jackfinn/Desktop/test.txt > /dev/null
[12:21] <Paterito> ActionParsnip: I tried su username but it gives me a message saying if I want admin priviligeis I should use sudo
[12:21] <jackfinn> I cannot install archlinux on my virtualbox, actionparsnip.
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> jackfinn: i also suggest you suffix your script in /etc/rc.local with an ampersand so that it gets backgrounded
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> Paterito: what username are you su'ing to?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> jackfinn: what does that have to do with rc.local?
[12:22] <vlt> !details | jackmac
[12:22] <vlt> jackmac: sorry
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> Paterito: what username are you su'ing to?
[12:24] <greek> *bump* Hi. I've got a newly installed Lenovo X230 laptop with Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 LTS. I'd like to install the graphics drivers (currently under System Details under Graphics it says Drivers "unknown"). How do I go about doing this? The graphics card is an Intel HD Graphics 4000.
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> greek: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/intel-release-graphical-installer-for-their-linux-drivers
[12:24] <greek> ActionParsnip, thanks
[12:25] <greek> ActionParsnip, out of interest how did you find that? I've been googling quite a bit but obviously not using the right query
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> greek: seen it before, just something in my head
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> greek: I get the exact link with https://duckduckgo.com/?q=intel+installer+omgubuntu
[12:26] <binyod> ActionParsnip, I was talking to cfhowlett, but he seems to have left now. I still have a problem, if you can help me. following his suggestion, I'd imported the flv file into audacity, and then selected export as mp3. but it is created in an unknown format, not mp3. it is not playable
[12:26] <Paterito> ActionParsnip: ubuntu because I'm running live
[12:26] <greek> ActionParsnip, cool thanks again
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> binyod: do you have liblame installed and so forth?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Paterito: you will be logged in as ubuntu by default
[12:26] <binyod> ActionParsnip, oh, I don't know. checking now
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Paterito: that is the default username in the liveCD desktop
[12:27] <foofoobar> ActionParsnip, maybe you have an idea for me..
[12:27] <foofoobar>  I had a problem with my wifi connection which dropped the connection from time to time.
[12:27] <binyod> ActionParsnip, when I tried to install liblame, it says "Unable to locate package liblame"
[12:27] <foofoobar> Your patch fixed it However I noticed something strange: I still have connection problems.. Not connection drops, but it "lags" sometimes
[12:28] <foofoobar> like here http://pastebin.com/V4ZK9Uxs
[12:28] <akShri> hi, anyone knows about any widget for thunderbird mail
[12:28] <hatchetjack> in ubuntu 13.10 trying to start any program i get 'cannot allocate memory'
[12:29] <hatchetjack> any idea what that's about?  I'm swapping also looks like.  I've got 16 GB of ram.
[12:29] <hatchetjack> never swapped before
[12:29] <Paterito> ActionParsnip: I know so why can't I use su and let me admin the file without having to type sudo
[12:31] <Guest70671> Hi there. I downloaded Ubuntu 12.04 LTS iso file, which has 707MB of size. Is there a site I can download this release in a CD size, just under 700MB?
[12:33] <greek> ActionParsnip, the latest version of that installer is here - https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/intelr-linux-graphics-installer-version-1.0.2 - but that's for Ubuntu 13.04. I'm running ubuntu 12.04 LTS, and the best I found is this - https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/intel-linux-graphics-installer - am I on the right track? Why is it called 12.04-downgrade.tar?
[12:33] <iceroot> !minimal | Guest70671
[12:36] <hatchetjack> ggrrr cannot allocate memory
[12:36] <hatchetjack> great
[12:38] <skande> n
[12:38] <Paterito> Ñandu
[12:39] <DLange> After Lubuntu 13.03 -> 13.10 upgrade I get: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: Operation not permitted   when I click the shutdown option to power off the machine, same as Issue 1 here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2182546&p=12823528 . Any ideas?
[12:40] <greek> ActionParsnip, ok no worries turns out I can apt-get install intel-linux-graphics-installer :)
[12:40] <greek> ActionParsnip, thanks for the tip! Cheers
[12:41] <binyod> I have only terminal open (no synaptic, no update manager) but still get the message "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[12:41] <Guest70671> Thanks ubottu (and greek). I'll try the mini.iso... have a great day
[12:43] <hatchetjack> so gnome-shell had 85% of my memory
[12:43] <hatchetjack> chewin on it
[12:43] <Paterito> anybody... does the ext3 file system supports ñ
[12:43] <hatchetjack> not good
[12:45] <stevecoh1> after upgrade to 13.04, many problems.  First one is that GRUB boot screen is way off to the left so I can't read it.  Is there a way to fix this?
[12:45] <Hawkerz> gartral, did you reboot yet?
[12:46] <jonaskul> Any Vaio Pro users?
[12:47] <vlt> Paterito: In file names? Yes.
[12:47] <vlt> !anyone | jonaskul
[12:54] <mathias1> hi everyone! I am not sure weather this is the right place or not. Do I get ubuntu support here? My system is broken since last update and I am running on a live version...
[12:54] <jpds> mathias1: Yes.
[12:55] <mathias1> So I simply write the issue into this channel?
[12:56] <BluesKaj> mathias1. describe your conditions , what happens etc
[12:56] <BluesKaj> broken doesn't tell us anything
[12:57] <Paterito> anybody knows if the ext3 file system supports ñ
[12:57] <b0x> ITS BROKE  \o/
[12:58] <b0x> only joking, ubuntu is awesome.
[12:58] <b0x> mathias1: i had to resetup a few things after the update to 13.10
[12:58] <b0x> but fine after
[12:59] <Pici> Paterito: Are you asking if ext3 supports multibyte characters in filenames?
[12:59] <mathias1> ubuntu supposed a distro update to me. I accepted and assume the download was complete, like I suppose the update progress was complete as well. I accedently closed the notebook lit and my system went into standby (my standard procedure in the evening). after doing this I realised the update again. Nxt time I used the laptop the updater window was broken and I killed it with xkill. Bad idea I guess? I thought about apt-get update/upgrade but
[12:59] <Pici> Paterito: if so, the answer is yes.
[13:00] <mathias1> the bootloader works but it says something about not able to mount.. I can not give you the exact error now.. but I have my sda1 mounted after starting...
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[13:01] <lotuspsychje> !ops | value-picks
[13:04] <Deithrian> Hello! I just did "sudo apt-get install p11-kit:i386" and I received the following in terminal "Removing xubuntu-desktop ... Removing software-center ... removing oneconf ... Removing ubuntu-sso-client ..." and so on.
[13:04] <Deithrian> Did that thing just removed my desktop and if I restart it will be gone?!
[13:05] <Deithrian> Anyone?
[13:06] <Deithrian> Can someone tell me how an INSTALL command REMOVES my desktop and software center ?!
[13:07] <osubuntu> Deithrian, try UCS, apt-get, aptitude or sth like that
[13:07] <osubuntu> UCS is based on GUI
[13:08] <Deithrian> No command 'ucs' found, did you mean:
[13:08] <mathias1> Did anyone read my problem and is thinking about it?
[13:08] <Deithrian> So it did remove software center and xubuntu... wow
[13:09] <binyod>  I have only terminal open (no synaptic, no update manager) but still get the message "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> mathias1: re-ask your question in chat once in a while, at other times someone might solve
[13:10] <mathias1> lotuspsychje: it is not just a plain question I can reask once in a while. It is a whole problem that needs a bit more of attention..
[13:10] <Deithrian> I will write this as a note for my future self whenever I  think of touching Linux again ^^
[13:10] <Deithrian> holy shit
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> mathias1: try to compact your issue to the base first
[13:11] <mathias1> lotuspsychje: I would love to. But I can not do this as I do not know how to describle the problem more specificly. It is: My system does not boot anymore ...
[13:11] <Hawkerz> mathias1, what is the actual error message you are seeing
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> !details | mathias1
[13:12] <mathias1> I can not tell you because I am on the machine at this right moment via a live ubuntu.
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> mathias1: what did you try, before it all went wrong?
[13:12] <Hawkerz> mathias1, sounds like you need to mount the root filesystem and chroot into it, finish your updates and reboot
[13:13] <mathias1> lotuspsychje: I said to the distro upgrader: YES do it baby. Two hours later > reboot > no system anymore.
[13:13] <mathias1> Hawkerz: I did chroot into it but tell me how to finish updates.
[13:13] <Hawkerz> mathias1, does that mean that you pressed the power button and the light did not come on?
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> mathias1: you upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10?
[13:14] <mathias1> lotuspsychje: yes
[13:14] <Hawkerz> mathias1, or did you get to grub? or to the login screen?
[13:14] <mathias1> Hawkerz: I do not understand your queston. grub is working and i will get a shell
[13:14] <Hawkerz> well you said you had no system, but you did not supply any further details
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> mathias1: what happens after grub load?
[13:14] <mathias1> I chrooted into the system. tell me how to fix it and i will tell you the error messages i get
[13:15] <Hawkerz> mathias1, do you understand why it might be helpful to have some idea of what is broken before we start telling you how to fix it?
[13:15] <mathias1> error message that i can not tell right now and a shell.. something about mounting something.. i dont know why it says this cuz my sda1 is mounted...
[13:15] <bjsnider> can someone with unity open an image please?
[13:16] <Hawkerz> mathias1, we do not need the specific error messages, but perhaps you have some vague idea of how far along in the boot process you made it before things went bad
[13:16] <mathias1> Hawkerz: yes.. I understand. but i can not tell you want is broken. and what I said know I already said before.
[13:16] <Hawkerz> mathias1, nobody is asking you to state definitively what is broken. I asked you if you made it to grub, and then if you made it past that
[13:17] <m1chael> i have some iso files i need to burn. they various sizes of the iso files are: 7.7gb, 7.3gb, 6.1gb, 7.7gb... i cannot burn these to the 4.7gb dvds i've got... do they make larger capacity dvds?
[13:17] <Hawkerz> mathias1, I and most others are not going to be very willing to help you if the only thing you can say about it is that your system is broken
[13:17] <mathias1> Hawkerz: grub is working and a can choose a kernel to boot. but i can not tell you how far the process went as ubuntu omits all output by standard
[13:17] <Hawkerz> ok
[13:17] <Hawkerz> (you can override that by hitting escape)
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> m1chael: yes, but thats not really an ubuntu question right
[13:18] <m1chael> right, sorry. taking my question elsewhere.
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> m1chael: try ##hardware mate
[13:18] <Hawkerz> mathias1, did you try booting into the recovery disk
[13:18] <mathias1> i can tell you that i tried "sudo apt-get -f install" on the chrooted system and that it stops due to tooo many errors
[13:18] <Hawkerz> that's helpful !
[13:19] <whoever> mathias1: you shouled not need  -f for that
[13:19] <mathias1> Hawkerz: how? i said: i chrooted into the system and i can not fix it. please tell me what i should write into the shell and i will give you the errors i will get.
[13:19] <Hawkerz> mathias1, sudo do-release upgrade
[13:19] <Hawkerz> er
[13:19] <Hawkerz> do-release-upgrade that is
[13:20] <graingert> do you know where the +mac version of 13.10 is?
[13:20] <graingert> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/13.10/release/
[13:20] <graingert> only has ARM and powerpc?
[13:20] <mathias1> it does nothing as it tells me i run the latest version
[13:20] <osubuntu> is 12.10 (quantal) stable?
[13:20] <tkooger> Morning everyone
[13:20] <graingert> osubuntu: yes
[13:20] <mathias1> Hawkerz: it does nothing as it tells me i run the latest version
[13:20] <osubuntu> graingert, but there is not much doc about 12.10 :|
[13:21] <Hawkerz> mathias1, sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | pastebinit
[13:21] <mathias1> Hawkerz: my output is german. still ok/
[13:21] <Hawkerz> sure
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> !12.10 | osubuntu
[13:21] <Hawkerz> i mean, I can't read german that well, but I'm sure we can figure it out
[13:21] <tkooger> I Just upgraded to 13.10 from 13.4 and I had some custome mounts in my fstab, these no longer work however I can connect to the server through nautilus has anyone seen an issue like this before?
[13:22] <Hawkerz> tkooger, are they samba mounts?
[13:22] <tkooger> yes
[13:22] <osubuntu> Oh i got it
[13:22] <mathias1> i can not resolve http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy/main pastebinit all 1.3-4ubuntu1
[13:22] <mathias1>   »archive.ubuntu.com«
[13:22] <Hawkerz> hmmmmmm
[13:22] <Paterito> hello I'm trying to mount a filesystem ext3 with user priviligies so it can write data to it I want to set the mount folder with write permissions but when I do chmod +w it appears to do only for the root user how to do it for the rest
[13:22] <mathias1> i have no /proc/net/dev .. i can not use ifconfig
[13:22] <Hawkerz> ohhhh, are you not online at all?
[13:23] <mathias1> Hawkerz: seems so
[13:23] <Hawkerz> in the chroot anyway
[13:23] <Hawkerz> ok
[13:24] <mathias1> Hawkerz: i did: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt   && sudo chroot /mnt
[13:24] <Hawkerz> mathias1, exit the chroot
[13:24] <mathias1> Hawkerz: the hostname is now ubuntu .. maybe this is a problem?
[13:25] <Hawkerz> mathias1, where is your root file system mounted ? I mean where did you mount it
[13:25] <cabral> hi. i'm root and tried to change some permissions but the operation wasn't permitted.
[13:25] <mathias1> Hawkerz: define root file system
[13:25] <Hawkerz> mathias1, the hard disk
[13:25] <Hawkerz> that you then chrooted into
[13:25] <Hawkerz> is mounted where, relative to the livecd filesystem
[13:26] <mathias1> Hawkerz: i allready told you?  mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[13:26] <Hawkerz> ok
[13:26] <Hawkerz> mathias1, sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev && sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc && sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys
[13:27] <mathias1> Hawkerz: btw: thanks for your time and help
[13:27] <Hawkerz> then chroot /mnt
[13:27] <mathias1> Hawkerz: awesome! thanks!
[13:27] <Hawkerz> then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install
[13:28] <mathias1> Hawkerz: can i try a sudo apt-get update and so on now?
[13:28] <mathias1> Hawkerz: okkeee
[13:28] <Hawkerz> mathias1, yeah, and uh
[13:28] <Hawkerz> you may have to do sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:28] <mathias1> Hawkerz: still can not resolve links
[13:28] <Hawkerz> hmmm
[13:28] <Hawkerz> nslookup google.de ?
[13:28] <mathias1> Hawkerz: already tried -f install and --configure-a before.. it does not work
[13:29] <Hawkerz> which links can't it resolve? is your chroot not connected or are your sources corrupted
[13:29] <mathias1> Hawkerz: ping <IP_ADDRESS> works btw.
[13:29] <MARKTIME> can anyone help me mount a windows raid 0 volume?
[13:29] <Hawkerz> maybe ditch the update command, just sudo apt-get -f install
[13:29] <mathias1> Hawkerz: root@ubuntu:/# nslookup google.de
[13:29] <mathias1> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[13:29] <Hawkerz> ohhh
[13:30] <Hawkerz> sorry, forgot one thing
[13:30] <mathias1> Hawkerz: sudo apt-get -f install  does not work .. it will stop due to too many errors
[13:30] <Hawkerz> from outside of the chroot : cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/resolf.conf
[13:30] <Hawkerz> then back into it and things should work
[13:31] <MARKTIME> can anyone help me mount a windows raid 0 volume?
[13:31] <Hawkerz> MARKTIME, is it hardware or software raid?
[13:31] <Hawkerz> if it's hardware raid, doesn't it just present as a single drive?
[13:31] <fxhp> Hawkerz - that was going to be my first question
[13:31] <MARKTIME> software
[13:32] <Hawkerz> isn't mdadm the linux software raid utility?
[13:32] <MARKTIME> it was hardware but I turned it off in the bios with the understanding that the ubuntu software mdadm would detect it.
[13:32] <fxhp> MARKTIME - NTFS support was just recently added (in the last 5 years of so)
[13:33] <fxhp> MARKTIME - do you want to keep the data
[13:33] <MARKTIME> when I do a dir I can see it and it is named "asr_Backup\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \   control"
[13:33] <fidel> Hawkerz: in short yes- mdadm can be used to create & maintain software-raids
[13:34] <MARKTIME> I found some instructions but the name it shows me is different than the format of the one in the instructions
[13:34] <mathias1> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.11.0-12-generic (x86_64)
[13:34] <mathias1> Consult /var/lib/dkms/i915-3.9-3.8/0.02/build/make.log for more information.
[13:34] <Romance> do i really need a firewall for a casual desktop usage? just browsing net, stream video, and do some libreoffice
[13:34] <Pici> !firewall | Romance ; TL;DR no, you should be fine
[13:34] <Hawkerz> mathias1, that was with -f?
[13:34] <Romance> Pici: danke
[13:35] <Paterito> how can I mount a filesystem with user write priviligies? I changed the bits on the folder in /media to allow write access to users but when I mount something it still wont' let me write anything
[13:35] <mathias1> Hawkerz: yes... I just wanted to tell the chat the msg
[13:35] <mathias1> Hawkerz: -f install still running..
[13:35] <Hawkerz> oh
[13:35] <Hawkerz> if you have more issues just pastebin the error logs
[13:36] <mathias1> Hawkerz: I will do. Thanks a lot for the help so far!
[13:36] <Hawkerz> no problem
[13:36] <MARKTIME> fx-hp yes I want to keep the data
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> Paterito: how did you mount the file system and what format is it?
[13:36] <foofoobar> When I unplug my A/C, I have WLAN lags.  (I'm using a notebook)
[13:36] <Hawkerz> MARKTIME, if you had a perfectly good hardware raid configuration why would you want to give it to ubuntu ?
[13:36] <foofoobar> What can be a cause of this?
[13:36] <MARKTIME> I haven't managed to get it to mount and it is ntfs
[13:36] <Hawkerz> doesn't hardware raid present the same as a signle disk to the os?
[13:36] <Paterito> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda5 /media/data
[13:37] <Paterito> the data folder has write access to users
[13:37] <Hawkerz> foofoobar, power management utilities
[13:37] <MARKTIME> Hawkerz because windows recognizes it as a blank volume that needs to be initialized
[13:37] <fidel> the "maybe" advantage of a linux sw-raid might be that you can still use it in another box - even if your former raid-controller is broken
[13:37] <Paterito> ActionParsnip: I tried -o users with no avail
[13:37] <Hawkerz> foofoobar, when your laptop loses a/c power, it starts trying to preserve battery
[13:38] <MARKTIME> RAID shows healthy in controller.  i only need it long enough to copy off dat
[13:38] <Hawkerz> foofoobar, which means it cuts power to everything it can (pm-powersave I think is the relevant software)
[13:39] <foofoobar> Hawkerz, okay, I will google pm-powersave
[13:39] <foofoobar> thanks
[13:39] <BenyaminL> hello, i need help, why my vdi VM that i make in linux can't run on windows? anyone can help me, i need my vdi work on windows, thx, i run on ubuntu 13.04
[13:39] <Hawkerz> MARKTIME, of course it shows healthy in the controller, but you just said you turned off hardware raid to present the disks to linux with the hope that you would then be able to operate on the filesystem safely?
[13:39] <MARKTIME> Yes, I just said that to indicate that the drives were physically ok.  Windows sees a single volume but says it needs to initialize
[13:39] <mikolaj> I have something like this: '>\xd7s\xb9\x9aXk'
[13:40] <mikolaj> but its turning into mumbo jumbo in python
[13:40] <mathias1> Hawkerz: again: THANKS A LOT! I will dare a reboot now
[13:40] <Hawkerz> good luck
[13:40] <mikolaj> how can I keep it in the original form
[13:40] <mathias1> :)
[13:40] <Pici> mikolaj: Please use #python for Python questions
[13:40] <mikolaj> ok sory
[13:41] <Hawkerz> MARKTIME, here is what I am hearing you say, and it makes no sense so maybe I'm wrong.   Something went wrong, and now you have taken them out of hardware raid and are attempting to create a software raid array in linux to get the bits off those drives?
[13:42] <Hawkerz> I don't understand why you can't just leave the drives in the HW raid when you use ubuntu
[13:43] <Pici> wii mikolaj
[13:43] <Pici> oops
[13:43] <MARKTIME> Hawkers, yes.  The boot drive on the system failed (NOT the RAID0) and I replaced it and reloaded it with windows.  Now windows can see the volume in disk manager but things it needs to initialize.  I am hoping ubuntu can view the raid using its software controller and let me get data off.
[13:43] <Hawkerz> ohhhh
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Paterito: was it in this system before?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Paterito: is it a pure user data partition?
[13:44] <MARKTIME> Ubuntu does not currently show it as a drive in home folder.
[13:44] <Hawkerz> MARKTIME, why don't you just boot with a livecd on the system where you can keep the drives in hw raid
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> !raid | MARKTIME
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> MARKTIME: may show how to create teh array.
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> MARKTIME: is this a data redcovery operation?
[13:44] <MARKTIME> ActionParsnip yes it is
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> MARKTIME: why is there not a backup of the data?
[13:45] <Hawkerz> MARKTIME, cat /proc/partitions and tell me what it says
[13:46] <MARKTIME> there is but it is cloud based and gonna take another day to get here and we need it today.  Also the very latest data did not get a chance to backup between close of business and failure of boot drive.
[13:46] <Hawkerz> MARKTIME, cat /proc/partitions and tell me what it says
[13:46] <Hawkerz> woops
[13:46] <MARKTIME>    7        0     682132 loop0
[13:46] <MARKTIME>    8        0  244198584 sda
[13:46] <MARKTIME>    8        1  244187968 sda1
[13:46] <MARKTIME>   11        0     712000 sr0
[13:46] <MARKTIME>    8       16  390711384 sdb
[13:46] <FloodBot1> MARKTIME: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:46] <MARKTIME>    8       32  390711384 sdc
[13:47] <MARKTIME> the dm-1 i believe is the one I want to get to
[13:47] <MARKTIME> I am sorry.  Been a while since I used IRC
[13:47] <Hawkerz> MARKTIME, paste the output in http://paste.ubuntu.com
[13:47] <b0x> use pastebin
[13:47] <Hawkerz> or sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[13:48] <Hawkerz> !pastebinint | MARKTIME
[13:48] <Hawkerz> !pastebin | MARKTIME
[13:48] <Hawkerz> hmm, typing is falling off
[13:48] <MARKTIME> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6289114/
[13:48] <Hawkerz> sdb and sdc i suppose
[13:49] <SIGKILLer> Hello. I am having trouble installing Ubuntu 13.10 x86_64. When I boot up after installation it says something about 'kernel panic: init failed. I have tried installing 13.10 on six different computers now, i get the same error on all of them. Could anyone help me with this?
[13:49] <MARKTIME> Am I unflooded yet?
[13:50] <MARKTIME> hawkers did I send the image correctly?
[13:50] <Paterito> ActionParsnip: don't know what pure user data partition means but no it wasn't on this sytem before well I'm running live ubuntu on the computer that has the hd with the partition is not a usb
[13:50] <BluesKaj> SIGKILLer. seems your instyall media may be corrupted somehow , did you do a md5 sum on the image file ?
[13:51] <Hawkerz> MARKTIME, yes, i'm just looking
[13:52] <SIGKILLer> BluesKaj: Yes, I have triple checked the MD5, tried using a good old DVD, using a memory stick og redownloading both Ubuntu and Ubuntu Gnome
[13:52] <foofoobar> Hawkerz, how can I enable pm-powersave only when I want to ?
[13:52] <Hawkerz> MARKTIME, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1776909&p=10910871#post10910871
[13:52] <Hawkerz> foofoobar, you should be able to just disable it's actions on your wireless controllwer
[13:53] <Hawkerz> foofoobar, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/pm-utils
[13:53] <Hawkerz> have a look at that
[13:53] <SIGKILLer> I tried installing by using 'Install alongside Windows' on two of the computers as well. At the end of the installation it showed an error telling me that Grub could not be installed
[13:55] <BluesKaj> SIGKILLer. do the pcs have windows 8 installed ?
[13:56] <radioiaaneg> hi every one
[13:57] <SIGKILLer> BluesKaj: No, none have Windows 8. Two of them are supposed to dual boot Windows 7 and Ubuntu, the remaining ones are laptops that will be running only Ubuntu.
[13:57] <xperement> hi every two
[13:57] <radioiaaneg> can anybody help me with my usb soundcard in ubuntu studio 13.10 64bit?
[13:58] <radioiaaneg> it should be plug and play but i doesnt work
[13:59] <hillary_> hi all , any one to advice me on a good command refference book on linux
[13:59] <treacherousirc> my desktop screen is all glitched out after yesterdays updates.
[14:00] <treacherousirc> white and dragging lines, blinks white etc
[14:00] <dr0p> hello, has anyone problems with connecting Nexus 4 to Ubuntu 13.10 ? I see empty folder empty window in nautilus. Help :)
[14:01] <Rockcanon> Hello
[14:01] <scott_w> yo, what's a good proxy for linux that i can quickl y set up with authentication?
[14:02] <scott_w> ideally *not* transparent
[14:02] <scott_w> (we're trying to set up a test environment)
[14:02] <genii> scott_w: dansguardian maybe
[14:02] <Rockcanon> Did someone know how VM9 run mac on win7 ?
[14:03] <Paterito> help!
[14:04] <Paterito> I have a file that has a invalid character and I can't rename it or do anything with it how do I rename this?
[14:04] <Pici> Rockcanon: What does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[14:04] <BrixSat> Paterito:  dont ask for help just.... speak it out
[14:04] <BrixSat> Paterito:  is that command line?
[14:04] <Rockcanon> i just guess someone who know about
[14:05] <Paterito> BrixSat: terminal or gui
[14:05] <Rockcanon> do not have anyother means
[14:05] <BrixSat> Paterito:  in terminal what do you write?
[14:05] <Paterito> on gui I have root priviligies but I still can't edit it
[14:05] <Pici> Rockcanon: This channel is only for Ubuntu support, not mac, not windows, Ubuntu. There is ##windows and a plethora of other channels on freenode.
[14:05] <Paterito> sudo rename flash.flv to flashfixedname.flv
[14:05] <Rockcanon> well
[14:05] <CatKiller> Paterito: What's the filename in question?
[14:05] <Rockcanon> thank you
[14:06] <Pici> Paterito: Thats not how the rename command works.
[14:06] <Paterito> CatKiller: there is a question mark on that character I can't reproduce it
[14:06] <Paterito> Pici: rly
[14:06] <CatKiller> Paterito: Open the "terminal", navigate to the directory in question and run "ls -la"
[14:06] <BrixSat> Paterito:  sudo mv flash.flv newflash.fvl
[14:06] <Pici> Paterito: mv filename1 filename2.  Use tab-complete or wildcards if you can't figure out how to type the characters.
[14:08] <Paterito> it works!
[14:08] <Paterito> I can't understnad why rename command won't work
[14:09] <xperement> it always works
[14:09] <Paterito> xperement: I didn't read it's manual :(
[14:09] <genii> Probably because mv (move) is the new "rename"
[14:10] <Paterito> quick question does the ubuntu server supports ñ I know desktop does
[14:15] <ganessh> Hi all
[14:15] <abdullatif> Hi
[14:16] <foofoobar> Hawkerz, so as far as I could see there is a /etc/power.d/wireless file which is a symlink to /usr/lib/tlp-pm/tlp-nop
[14:16] <geirha> Paterito: The rename command in ubuntu uses perl syntax and regular expressions to rename files
[14:16] <foofoobar> Should I remove this file to disable pm support for wireless?
[14:17] <geirha> rename is not a standard command, so it may have very different functionality depending on what system you're on
[14:17] <Hawkerz> foofoobar, does it have anything in it?
[14:17] <Hawkerz> foofoobar, pastebinit /usr/lib/tlp-pm/tlp-nop
[14:17] <foofoobar> Hawkerz, yes: http://pastebin.com/KVT1zPQg
[14:17] <abdullatif> i have a question
[14:18] <abdullatif> 13.10 server installing is command mode?
[14:18] <foofoobar> Hawkerz, all files in /etc/power.d/ link to this file
[14:18] <ganessh>  I am trying to understand how to effectively get the active window detail from unubtu system(preferably using python or java)
[14:18] <foofoobar> there are a few files (wireless, pcie_aspm, usb_bluetooth, etc
[14:19] <Hawkerz> foofoobar, don't delete that
[14:20] <abdullatif> Please answer anyone a my question
[14:20] <foofoobar> Hawkerz, ok
[14:20] <BrixSat> abdullatif:  it is via a graphical text
[14:21] <foofoobar> Hawkerz, so I need to deactive this somewhere else
[14:22] <ganessh> I am trying to understand how to effectively get the active window detail from unubtu system(preferably using python or java). Anybody knows what library can I use?
[14:23] <abdullatif> Thank u BrixSat
[14:23] <foofoobar> Hawkerz, I found this regarding tlp http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-configuration.html#networking
[14:23] <Paterito> geirha: cool
[14:24] <Paterito> I have another problemo
[14:24] <lgp171188> Hi, I just logged into my ubuntu desktop and the user indicator menu where the options like shutdown logout etc are all there is missing. How to fix it?
[14:24] <foofoobar> Hawkerz, I changed this in my /etc/default/tlp file now, I will reboot and test this now :)
[14:24] <abdullatif> how to installing 13.10 server graphical text mode?
[14:24] <Paterito> I want to mount a fs making a specified user as the owner so I do sudo mount -t ext3 -o nosuid,uid=999,gid=999 /dev/sda5 /media/data/ 999 is my uid and gid but it gives me an error why
[14:25] <kostkon> !info python-wnck | ganessh
[14:25] <BrixSat> abdullatif: next time ask and wait ;) dont rush!
[14:25] <demophobia> Hello, would you please help me with my problem described at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2183048&p=12825589#post12825589 ?
[14:25] <abdullatif> Okey
[14:25] <abdullatif> Sorry
[14:25] <geirha> Paterito: That's how you do it for fat and ntfs, not ext3. With ext3, you mount it as usual, then chown the mount point.
[14:26] <kostkon> demophobia, 6.06? seriously?
[14:26] <BrixSat> demophobia:  please use ubuntu 12.04 for a long term support version or the lattest 13.10
[14:26] <geirha> Paterito: sudo chown 999:999 /media/data  # after it has been mounted
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> demophobia: are there any bugs reported?
[14:26] <Paterito> I chown the mount point before mouting the fs
[14:26] <demophobia> kostkon: Yes, my 9.04 got corrupted
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> geirha: why 999 ?
[14:26] <Paterito> that's my uid
[14:26] <geirha> Paterito: You can also use the username and groupname instead of the uid and gid
[14:26] <demophobia> BrixSat: How can I? I say near the end: "I have not been able to use the latest Ubuntu software for two reasons: One version of Ubuntu 12.04.2 Desktop tells me the hardware is incompatible with the kernel, if I recall the boot-up error message correctly. So I try downloading the 32-bit version (assuming I accidentally got the 64-bit version), thinking perhaps that is compatible with this hardware, but I cannot burn it to disc: It is larger than 700
[14:26] <demophobia> have access to a CD-R/CD-RW drive, so I can't burn it to a DVD-R."
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> ahhh
[14:27] <Paterito> ActionParsnip: is a long story
[14:27] <BrixSat> demophobia:  you can use a pen :=
[14:27] <Hawkerz> Paterito, how did you get a uid of 999?
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> demophobia: tried Lubuntu? its great for low end systems, or people wh like a snappy desktop
[14:27] <demophobia> ActionParsnip: I don't know how to check that. BrixSat What do you mean a pen?
[14:27] <Paterito> Hawkerz: running live
[14:27] <Hawkerz> oh
[14:28] <BrixSat> demophobia:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[14:28] <demophobia> ActionParsnip: I'll look into it, thanks ... I guess I'm afraid to try new things and was wanting to get what I'd used before to work again ...
[14:28] <ganessh> Thanks kostkon and ubottu
[14:28] <geirha> Paterito: Changing ownership on the mount point before mounting anything there will have no effect
[14:29] <demophobia> BrixSat: Doesn't booting from a USB stick mean it can _only_ be used for that purpose, i.e. it can no longer be used to store other files?
[14:29] <Hawkerz> demophobia, no
[14:31] <BrixSat> demophobia:  lol dont you add files and remove them? Why would use it as a "cd" make it unusable again?
[14:33] <Paterito> geirha: right~!
[14:33] <p1l0t> Does anybody happen to know where Apache2 keeps apxs by default?
[14:34] <BrixSat> p1l0t: apxs? what is that
[14:34] <rt_91> i have installed Ubuntu on a Xen VM When i Access its console using xm console vmname then it shows only the debug messages etc no the terminal itself. How can i have terminal in that console?
[14:34] <BrixSat> rt_91:  that is a xen config problem not a ubuntu prob.
[14:34] <demophobia> BrixSat: Well, what I meant was -- I understand a flash drive can be reformatted, unlike burning a disc, but my impression was that if using a USB drive to boot from, that it could _only_ be used for that purpose, that to store files on it, it would have to be reformatted again.
[14:35] <p1l0t> BrixSat: the Apache extension tool
[14:35] <mdnight> hi guys. My friend has no money for a new disk.So i am planning to make a ubuntu usb. She just using facebook so i think its a cheap solution. But i dont know if she can play facebook games that need to download some files locally. Does anyone know if this thing is possible?
[14:35] <BrixSat> demophobia:   i have a 8gb flash drive that i use to boot ubuntu, and i also have there a movie and some personal pics :)
[14:35] <BrixSat> p1l0t: /etc/apache2/
[14:36] <rt_91> BrixSat: Yeah I know didnt get any reply on xen i thought some one here could help since it is general linux question
[14:36] <BrixSat> mdnight: just have a nice usb disk with space and alocate it
[14:36] <mdnight> BrixSat, how much space can i allocate with unetbootin?
[14:37] <BrixSat> rt_91:  it is not a general linux question ;) its a xen specific. I would say you are using a minial ubuntu ovz template.
[14:37] <BrixSat> mdnight:  the rest ubuntu leaves :p
[14:37] <mdnight> BrixSat, ok thank you
[14:37] <geirha> Paterito: In fact, you might want to change ownership to root and make it read only on the "pre-mounted" mount-point.  That way you won't accidentally copy a bunch of files to it only to realize later that you forgot to mount it first.
[14:37] <rt_91> BrixSat: then what do i do?
[14:37] <p1l0t> BrixSat: I don't see it in there
[14:38] <rt_91> BrixSat: Please Help
[14:38] <geirha> Paterito: err, "pre-mounted" was a bad term. "unmounted"
[14:38] <Paterito> geirha: you're right I get it
[14:38] <hitsujiTMO> p1l0t: have you installed apache2-dev ?
[14:39] <BrixSat> rt_91:  use the consolse on the baremetal and access the ubuntu console. or use via ssh ;)
[14:39] <p1l0t> hitsujiTMO: negative do I need to?
[14:39] <godzirra> Morning.
[14:39] <charl_> i am experiencing an extremely strange problem with the new ubuntu 13.10 amd64 - tested after an upgrade of a server previously running 13.04 and on a desktop clean install
[14:39] <charl_> random high-numbered tcp ports appear as open on a local nmap scan of the ip attached to eth0 and they keep changing but netstat -tulpen shows nothing unusual
[14:39] <hitsujiTMO> p1l0t: apxs is part of the dev tools, so yes
[14:39] <charl_> here's an example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6289352/
[14:40] <charl_> this never used to happen under 13.04 - does anyone happen to know what's going on?
[14:40] <demophobia> Oh, ok, thanks, everyone. I think it would be good for me to try Lubuntu, since this computer is eight years old and does seem a little slow already with 6.06 ubuntu
[14:40] <godzirra> apt-get dist-upgrade should upgrade me from 12.04?  Just trying to make sure I'm doing things right before I give up on my company imaged laptop. :)
[14:41] <p1l0t> hitsujiTMO: Thing is I installed mod_wsgi but its by default 3.3 when I have python2.7 installed. It actually works great except that none of my .egg links work. So do I have to compile mod_wsgi with 2.7 or is there an easier was to call my editable packages?
[14:44] <hitsujiTMO> p1l0t: mod_wsgi should not matter on the python version ... how did you install it?
[14:44] <pepigno75> hi, i have problem with nautilus. when i open Home nautilus crash . i launch by terminal and have this error : http://pastebin.com/HuASvypH
[14:45] <pepigno75> if i open other folder it works
[14:45] <p1l0t> hitsujiTMO: sudo apt-get install libapace2-mod-wsgi or something like that
[14:46] <hitsujiTMO> pepigno75: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1203349
[14:48] <hitsujiTMO> pepigno75: looks like something in that folder has an extension but some invalid marker
[14:48] <pepigno75> hitsujiTMO, i don't know.. how can try this file?
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> pepigno75: whats the output of: ls ~
[14:50] <hitsujiTMO> p1l0t: that's the correct way ... i would assume the issue is with the framework config rather than mod_wsgi
[14:50] <pepigno75> i have some jpg " IMG-20131022-WA0000.jpg.part"
[14:50] <hitsujiTMO> pepigno75: delete it or move it to folder that isn't indexed by nautilus
[14:51] <genii> Looks like an interrupted download. Maybe it's corrupt
[14:51] <p1l0t> hitsujiTMO: I'm not using a framework but the script imports the modules fine from the CLi just not when it's called through the browser.
[14:51] <Guest9592> hello
[14:51] <Guest9592> how do i install libreoffice in full?
[14:51] <Guest9592> I did sudo apt-getinstall libreoffice
[14:51] <Guest9592> but for some reason i only have libreoffice calc
[14:52] <p1l0t> hitsujiTMO: ImportError: No module named test123 is what it says but it imports fine from the command line
[14:53] <Hawkerz> foofoobar, did that help
[14:53] <jpds> p1l0t: Then your sys.path is broken somewhere.
[14:53] <Guest9592> ubuntu
[14:53] <Guest9592> help
[14:53] <Guest9592> how do i fix my libreoffice situation
[14:54] <hitsujiTMO> p1l0t: what is your wsgi config for that app?
[14:55] <foofoobar> Hawkerz, yes :)
[14:55] <foofoobar> I think that fixed it, great
[14:55] <foofoobar> thank you
[14:55] <Hawkerz> np
[14:56] <hitsujiTMO> Guest9592: open the terminal and type: libreoffice --writer       what happens?
[14:56] <Hawkerz> had that problem plenty of times myself
[14:56] <Guest9592> nevermind
[14:56] <Guest9592> i fixed it
[14:56] <hitsujiTMO> :)
[14:56] <pepigno75> hitsujiTMO, thanks... i remove 4 jpg with estension.... i don' remember how and when i put this jpg in home
[14:56] <pepigno75> now works
[14:57] <hitsujiTMO> pepigno75: hopefully that bug will be fixed soon enough ... seems rather nasty
[14:57] <chro> hi
[14:57] <bluechaos> hello
[14:57] <p1l0t> jpds: hitsujiTMO: I have a file called web.py that as one line basically that is import test123 which prints a single line. It works fine if I type python web.py. but when I goto mysite/cgi-bin it throws the error ImportError: No module named test123.
[14:57] <chro> how can I upgrade my ubuntu for the 13.10 version?
[14:58] <hitsujiTMO> p1l0t: you should need to specify the application root for wsgi ... otherwise it may be looking in the wrong place for modules
[14:59] <Paterito> anybody knows a good irc program for ubuntu server?
[14:59] <Hawkerz> Paterito, a good irc server?
[14:59] <Hawkerz> or a good client to run from the terminal
[14:59] <jose> !best
[15:00] <Paterito> Hawkerz: no a good irc client for ubuntu server
[15:00] <p1l0t> hitsujiTMO: Right but if I move that it can't find any of the normal python stuff because my .egg links are in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages but none of the other factor python modules are there
[15:00] <hitsujiTMO> Paterito: irrsi and weechat seem to be the most popular ... "best" is subjective
[15:00] <Hawkerz> Paterito, there are many -- irssi, weechat
[15:00] <Hawkerz> well, 2/2 #ubuntu users think it's irssi or weechat, so there you go
[15:00] <Paterito> for terminals?
[15:01] <Hawkerz> yes
[15:01] <Paterito> I installed smuxi on server 13.10 but it couldn't load
[15:01] <binyod> hello everyone, I'm trying to convert a .flv file into mp3 on audacity: to do that, I open the file and then export it as mp3. but the resulting file is shown as unknown type and cannot be played. I was suggested to install "lame" earlier, and I did it now, but it's still the same.
[15:02] <Paterito> good thanks
[15:05] <hitsujiTMO> p1l0t: i'm unsure how to advise you at this point as I only use virtual envs and have no experience with add stuff to the gloval dist-packages folder... hopefully someone else will be able to help you
[15:05] <LPhas> Hi, quick question: i just upgraded to ubuntu 13.10 and now when i log in and at random intervals i'm been asked for a password to add to keyring. A password FOR WHAT for #@%@ sake?
[15:07] <p1l0t> hitsujiTMO: thanks for your help anyway
[15:07] <kostkon> LPhas, rae you using chrome?
[15:07] <LPhas> kostkon, yep
[15:07] <kostkon> LPhas, there is the culprit
[15:08] <LPhas> kostkon, i'm using chromium not chrome, sorry.
[15:08] <kostkon> LPhas, it's asking you to unlock the keyring and get the credentials for your sites
[15:08] <LPhas> kostkon, and i'm logged in in chromium and it doesn't accept my google credentials anyway
[15:08] <n3xjn> .part
[15:09] <jack01111> Hi am i correct to say that I will not be able to update from 13.10 to 14.04 by the time 14.04 is being release?
[15:09] <kostkon> LPhas, check in its settings
[15:09] <hitsujiTMO> jack01111: no
[15:09] <LPhas> kostkon, for what?
[15:09] <kostkon> LPhas, also search for "keys" in the dash, open the passwords and keys app and you'll be able to see all the credentials that are saved in your keuring
[15:10] <LPhas> kostkon, ok
[15:11] <kostkon> LPhas, maybe some option in chromium's settings to disable/alter the way it stores your credentials
[15:11] <LPhas> but chrome seems to be able to access my credentials
[15:11] <LPhas> event it the "login" fails
[15:11] <kostkon> LPhas, chrome or chromium?
[15:12] <LPhas> chromium
[15:12] <LPhas> chrome is not installed
[15:12] <kostkon> LPhas, maybe for some, not for others
[15:12] <LPhas> weird
 , i can? I thought its lts to lts?
[15:13] <hitsujiTMO> jack01111: no ... you can upgrade interim to lts
[15:13] <dosequis> hey all I am having some networking issues here. Basically installed ubuntu on usb hdd. I can boot into the system but the ethernet does not seem to work. I have setup a static IP with same config as other server, but for some reason I cannot ping the network. Anyone have time to help me out?
[15:13] <Pici> jack01111: You can always upgrade from one release to the next immediate one.
[15:14] <jack01111> that be sudo apt-get release-upgrade?
[15:14] <dosequis> when I try to ping the network i get destination host unreachable
[15:14] <Hawkerz> jack01111, sudo apt-get do-release-upgrade
[15:14] <Pici> jack01111: do-release-upgrade
[15:14] <luigimaesano> hello
[15:14] <Hawkerz> er
[15:14] <Hawkerz> sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:14] <Hawkerz> not apt-get
[15:14] <MariuszPam> lol
[15:15] <jack01111> thanks
[15:15] <hitsujiTMO> dosequis: can you post the output of: ifconfig
[15:15] <luigimaesano> just updated to 13.10. Clicking on the watch (up right of the screen) it is shown a calendar but not my thunderbird meetings
[15:15] <Hawkerz> dosequis, is the other end of your ethernet cable plugged in? :p
[15:15] <dosequis> hitsujiTMO: sure - what's the best way since that server is not web connected
[15:15] <dosequis> Hawkerz: hah yes it is
[15:15] <dosequis> I have an ip address and all
[15:16] <hitsujiTMO> dosequis: a shot with a camera/phone will even do
[15:16] <dosequis> hitsujiTMO: ok one second
[15:16] <Hawkerz> dosequis, just tell us ip, subnet, gateway, and that works too
[15:17] <dosequis> Hawkerz: ok well the interface name is p7p1, bcast <IP_ADDRESS> mask <IP_ADDRESS> addr <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:17] <dosequis> UP BROADCAST MULTICAST
[15:17] <dosequis> rx and tx at 0 with interrupt at 19
[15:18] <Hawkerz> so it's not actually connected to anything
[15:18] <Hawkerz> are you on a machine that is on the same local network as the machine you are trying to configure?
[15:18] <dosequis> yes I am
[15:18] <Hawkerz> dosequis, are you on linux as well?
[15:19] <dosequis> Hawkerz: yes
[15:19] <dosequis> ubuntu 13.04 server
[15:19] <Hawkerz> dosequis, basically give us your own output from ifconfig -- easiest way is if you sudo apt-get install pastebinit && ifconfig | pastebinit
[15:19] <dosequis> Hawkerz: ok one sec
[15:21] <Pici> Hawkerz: how is apt-get going to work if they don't have an internet connection?
[15:21] <martinb> Anybody know of a method of formatting a usb stick to be bootable from aluminium imac. Without using AppleOS?
[15:21] <dosequis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6289546/
[15:21] <dosequis> that is for another machine on same network that is currently working
[15:21] <Hawkerz> Pici, he has an internet connection on the machine I asked him to run this on
[15:21] <reisio> martinb: what would you be using?
[15:21] <Pici> Hawkerz: oops! nevermind!
[15:22] <martinb> reisi: ubuntu on said mac (no macos)
[15:22] <Hawkerz> dosequis, the other machine doesn't have an eth0 interface?
[15:22] <martinb> I need to reinstall
[15:22] <dosequis> now the new machine is not the same kind of machine. it's a hp thin client that is running ubuuntu off an usb hdd
[15:22] <reisio> martinb: why's that
[15:22] <dosequis> no it has p7p1
[15:22] <Hawkerz> oh
[15:22] <reisio> martinb: you should be able to just dd it to the usb stick device, just be careful
[15:22] <FourFire> Hello, I am about to create a USB bootable for the purpose of booting from it and repartitioning my main drive
[15:22] <martinb> I need to reformat partitions, etc.
[15:22] <reisio> martinb: why?
[15:22] <reisio> FourFire: i
[15:22] <dosequis> and actually i do have another thin client that is working
[15:22] <reisio> FourFire: hi, even
[15:22] <dosequis> but the hd is only 2gb
[15:22] <dosequis> so that's why I am trying to run off usb hdd
[15:22] <martinb> 4 partitions taking up space
[15:23] <domo__> hello everyone
[15:23] <dosequis> but this time around no internet connection
[15:23] <dosequis> i am trying with same settings as on other thin client
[15:23] <FourFire> my drive is a bit old, but I want to keep using it  for a little while, is it possible to get it to automatically resize, ignoring bad sectors?
[15:23] <domo__> am I in the right channel to ask for some specific help?
[15:23] <martinb> need only 2 on here. I don't want to have to find/burn a cd, as I have a broken ankle & cannot move around much. I am having issues getting the mac to see the usb drive on boot
[15:23] <Hawkerz> dosequis, and you can't ping it?
[15:23] <genii> !details | domo__
[15:23] <dosequis> Hawkerz: no pinging doesn't work
[15:24] <domo__> !details
[15:24] <Hawkerz> hmmk
[15:24] <dosequis> if I do ip link is says state DOWN
[15:24] <Hawkerz> dosequis, hostname -A
[15:24] <Thalheim> is there anyone I can contact regarding the ubuntu paste site?
[15:24] <dosequis> Hawkerz: blank
[15:25] <Hawkerz> dosequis, and hostname -a ?
[15:25] <Hawkerz> and then on your machine as well
[15:25] <martinb> reisio: Any suggestions?
[15:25] <dosequis> Hawkerz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6289571/ here is the ifconfig from the other identical thin client that is working
[15:26] <hitsujiTMO> Thalheim: maybe #ubuntu-website
[15:26] <dosequis> diff i can see is RUNNING
[15:26] <genii> Thalheim: Someone in #canonical-sysadmin may be able to assist, if it concerns private info that may be there or a similar issue.
[15:26] <reisio> martinb: what sort of issues
[15:26] <domo__> Ok, my problem is the following: some time ago I tried to install packages manually (libssl1.0.0_1.0.1e-3_i386, libssl1.0.0_1.0.1-4ubuntu5.10_amd64) in order to get some program running (i think it was EAGLE). I seem to have broken some dependencies in the packages. my system is now unable to update anything via apt-get, or even remove or install something. apt-get -f install does not work, also package repair in ubuntu rescue-mode does not resolve the problem
[15:26] <domo__> . i will paste the relevant error messages in a second
[15:27] <FourFire> so is there anything that I can do in regards to that
[15:27] <Hawkerz> dosequis, compare /etc/network/interfaces
[15:27] <domo__> when i try to apt-get upgrade: Die folgenden Pakete haben unerfüllte Abhängigkeiten:
[15:27] <domo__>  libssl1.0.0 : Beschädigt: libssl1.0.0:i386 (!= 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.10) aber 1.0.1e-3 ist installiert
[15:27] <domo__>  libssl1.0.0:i386 : Beschädigt: libssl1.0.0 (!= 1.0.1e-3) aber 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.10 ist installiert
[15:28] <domo__> thats german for unresolved dependencies..
[15:28] <Thalheim> hitsujiTMO, genii : thank you
[15:28] <TomyWork> domo__, you mean "Broken"
[15:28] <martinb> reisio: It doesn't see the usb stick if I hold alt(option) down on boot. Just the MBR scheme. This mac has a non-mac drive in it, if that helps
[15:29] <reisio> not sure there is such a thing as a mac drive, but that's irrelevant, uh...
[15:29] <domo__> yes, broken. youre right
[15:29] <reisio> martinb: what'd you install from before?
[15:29] <martinb> reisio: You buy a replacement drive from apple, it comes pre-formatted. If you don't, then you're hosed putting osx back on. This is only mbr formatted
[15:30] <hitsujiTMO> domo__: did you install any ppas?
[15:30] <martinb> Installed from CD previously
[15:30] <domo__> i don't know how to resolve this problem. is there some way to manually remove the packages or whatever is wrong in my system?
[15:30] <FourFire> ok first of all: what type of space should I format my drive to?
[15:30] <martinb> reisio: Just found some blank DVD's. I'll try to boot from one of them :)
[15:30] <domo__> hitsujiTMO, i think i did with the mentioned packages: libssl1.0.0
[15:30] <FourFire> (I'm going to make a bootable from it)
[15:30] <dosequis> Hawkerz: identical - i copied it - only diff is i added dns-nameservers because I thought that was the issue initially
[15:30] <reisio> FourFire: yeah it's called... badblocks
[15:30] <hitsujiTMO> !ppa-purge | domo__
[15:31] <reisio> FourFire: but getting a new drive would be simpler :)
[15:31] <martinb> Although a link to a nice howto for making mac-bootable usb sticks from Linux would be appreciated )
[15:31] <FourFire> is NFTS fine?
[15:31] <reisio> martinb: :)
[15:31] <reisio> martinb: you can use unetbootin
[15:31] <domo__> ubottu, hitsujiTMO, thanks i will try that
[15:31] <reisio> FourFire: for... installing Ubuntu onto?
[15:31] <Hawkerz> dosequis, they are both configured to get static ips?
[15:31] <FourFire> yes
[15:31] <reisio> FourFire: nope
[15:31] <FourFire> what then?
[15:31] <Hawkerz> dosequis, and they are both configured with the same nameservers? cat /etc/resolv.conf
[15:31] <reisio> FourFire: you can specify the FS during installation
[15:31] <domo__> ah, now I get it with the bots here ;)
[15:31] <dosequis> Hawkerz: yes
[15:32] <FourFire> oh right
[15:32] <dosequis> Hawkerz: yes
[15:32] <reisio> FourFire: all you need to do is make sure the installer will have partition space to utilize
[15:32] <Hawkerz> dosequis, and they both have the same domain? both running ubuntu 13.04 or something?
[15:32] <martinb> unetbootin didn't give me mac-recognisable sticks :(
[15:32] <reisio> FourFire: and if the drives exposed to the installer have any partitions with data you care about on them, take care to not overwrite them :)
[15:32] <FourFire> so first i should format it as [empty] right?
[15:32] <dosequis> Hawkerz: only difference I see is that the one that is working has RUNNING on the 4th line
[15:32] <reisio> martinb: sure it did
[15:32] <FourFire> (I have stuff on it from before)
[15:32] <reisio> martinb: but unfortunately that isn't the only variable
[15:32] <reisio> FourFire: you can do that during install, really
[15:32] <FourFire> yeah I've backed up the data i want to keep
[15:33] <dosequis> Hawkerz: and ip link state is UP for the one that is working and DOWN for the one that isn't
[15:33] <reisio> FourFire: yeah, just do it when you run the installer, then
[15:33] <lucido> is there a ppa for the latest nvidia drivers?  in 304 I cant set a custom resolution and in 173 nvclock doesn't work
[15:33] <dosequis> Hawkerz: not sure how to turn it on though...
[15:33] <reisio> FourFire: it has an option to overwrite everything / use the whole disk
[15:33] <martinb> reisio: Nope. I've just found some destructions which state that dd-ing a usb stick to an empty partition will make it bootable, but osx really doesn't like usb sticks
[15:33] <domo__> hitsujiTMO, what do I do if i cant install any new packages? cant install ppa-purge while the problem still exists...
[15:33] <dosequis> Hawkerz: yes both identical machines - only difference is one is running off internal hdd (the one that is working) and other is booting external hdd
[15:33] <FourFire> thanks
[15:33] <jkgeyti> can i enable autologin (to desktop session) from the command line - i only have ssh access atm
[15:34] <wasanzy> hi
[15:34] <FourFire> now is it possible for me to use the currently running OS as an image for the drive install
[15:34] <reisio> martinb: well it's a question of what the UEFI likes
[15:34] <reisio> wasanzy: hi
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> jkgeyti: sure you can edit lightdm.conf
[15:34] <FourFire> (because I have some tools already installed on it)
[15:34] <dosequis> Hawkerz: I tried ifup p7p1 but it doesn't seem to change the sattus of the link
[15:34] <martinb> Indeed. I'm totally blind when it comes to UEFI
[15:34] <cordyceps> I'd like to update 12.04 to 13.04 but Update Mgr only offers 14.04. What to do?
[15:34] <reisio> FourFire: what is the currently running OS?
[15:35] <reisio> martinb: aren't we all
[15:35] <wasanzy> I wanted to upgrade my ubuntu from 13.04 to 13.10, last time I had an alert to upgrade and I clicked on remind me later, now I want to upgrade and I can't find the OS upgrader
[15:35] <FourFire> Ubuntu 32-bit with 'PUA' (or something, lets me use more than 4GB RAM)
[15:35] <wasanzy> how do I upgrade via the net?
[15:35] <jkgeyti> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot - that seemed to be the keyword i was missing in my google search :)
[15:35] <FourFire> 12.04.something
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> cordyceps: you will need to edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal
[15:35] <martinb> reisio: I'm hoping that the CD will be recognised, so that I can reformat my drives. Then I have the wonderful task of trying to get a UEFI boot working, instead of the 30 second timeout I have to wait for to get into mbr boot :(
[15:36] <reisio> I'm guessing probably
[15:36] <cordyceps> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> wasanzy: sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:36] <reisio> although there are some potential UEFI issues with installing from CD/DVD, sometimes
[15:36] <reisio> you'll find out one way or the other :)
[15:36] <wasanzy> ActionParsnip: oh ok thank you
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> cordyceps: the default in LTS is to look for the next LTS< which is 14.04, so you tell it to allow the next release (12.10) to be offered
[15:36] <martinb> Oh yes. I'll be going dark for a while now, I think :)
[15:36] <wasanzy> does that upgrade my Gnome too?
[15:36] <hitsujiTMO> domo__: to be honest, i've never been in such a situation so i'm not sure ... i'd try and get the .deb and install it manually at least
[15:37] <domo__> hitsujiTMO, worth a shot, thanks
[15:39] <dosequis> Hawkerz: any ideas?
[15:39] <noinoi> ciao
[15:39] <sharkguto> someone has already work with python and CPU pinning/affinity? I really want to know how can i perform a thread affinity using python.... i have learing to user threading2 and set the affinity manually , however i only can do it for the hole script,i want to do it for each thread.........for example, t1,t2,t3 running over CPU0 and t4,t5 running over CPU1.....threading2.process_affinity((cpu,))
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> sharkguto: ask in #python too :)
[15:40] <sharkguto> i have already
[15:40] <sharkguto> no answer yet
[15:41] <FourFire> reisio: if I want to use my current running OS as a disk image, rather than the normal .iso file I have can I do that with Ubuntu's Startup disk creator?
[15:41] <FourFire> and if so what do I need to do?
[15:42] <domo__> hitsujiTMO, does the following error line help? E: Internal Error, No file name for libssl1.0.0
[15:42] <reisio> FourFire: technically yes, but I wouldn't bother
[15:42] <FourFire> ok
[15:42] <Hawkerz> dosequis, sorry
[15:42] <reisio> FourFire: you're reinstalling Ubuntu?
[15:42] <Hawkerz> got distracted, yes, I have lots of ideas
[15:42] <FourFire> I'll just install the tools seperately
[15:42] <domo__> hitsujiTMO, that happens whenever i try something like apt-get -f install, etc
[15:42] <FourFire> no, not exactly
[15:42] <dosequis> Hawkerz: no worries! thanks for your help!
[15:42] <Hawkerz> dosequis, dmesg
[15:43] <FourFire> I have an windows computer which I used extensively before I was introduced to linux, and I gave Ubuntu a stupidly small partition because I thought I wouldn't use it much (now I never use windows)
[15:43] <wayne__> Is it okay to run Ubuntu in Virualbox?
[15:43] <hitsujiTMO> domo__: looks like one of the ppas has its own version of libssl1 and rather than be an update for the actual package, it installed alongside it
[15:43] <reisio> wayne__: sure
[15:43] <Hawkerz> wayne__, of course it is
[15:43] <reisio> FourFire: ah
[15:43] <hitsujiTMO> domo__: bad ppa
[15:44] <reisio> FourFire: if you don't want the windows partition anymore, you can delete it and reclaim the space without reinstalling, from a live OS
[15:44] <dosequis> Hawkerz: on which machine ? can't really copy output easily...
[15:44] <reisio> FourFire: it's more like 90% safe instead of 100% safe, but potentially will be a much smaller hassle than reinstalling
[15:44] <Hawkerz> FourFire, but you can also resize windows without much trouble
[15:44] <Hawkerz> dosequis, just dmesg | grep -i net
[15:44] <Hawkerz> on the one that is broken
[15:44] <reisio> yeah, but he just said he doesn't use windows anymore :p
[15:45] <domo__> hitsujiTMO, ok.. at least i know where to look now.
[15:45] <martinb> reisio: It's a security blanket for some people. I kept my windows partitions around for a few years too, back in the day :)
[15:45] <reisio> right, but he just said he's now past that point :p
[15:46] <Hawkerz> dosequis, you are mainly looking to see if there are any obvious attempts and failures at connecting to the network
[15:46] <martinb> Yay for a partition wipe then :D
[15:46] <Hawkerz> dosequis, you can also lspci -vvnn while you're at it
[15:47] <Hawkerz> tell me the ethernet controller model # and then at the bottom of the ethernet controller section, it should have a kernel driver mentioned
[15:47] <hitsujiTMO> domo__: one last thing you could try after you've done everything is to touch where that file should be ... this could cause other problems, so it would be a last resort
[15:47] <Hawkerz> and get the same output from the working one
[15:47]  * martinb just realised that he's been running 32-bit linux on this 64-bit machine for far too long...
[15:47] <dosequis> Hawkerz: ok one second
[15:47] <Sidhu> Ìû
[15:48] <Sidhu> Ìû
[15:48] <wayne__> Can you use your windows stream user name and password for linux steam
[15:48] <dosequis> Hawkerz: I have a couple link not ready. It is using the tg3 driver
[15:48] <martinb> wayne__: I did :)
[15:49] <wayne__> can you still download the same games?
[15:49] <jmgk> join #colloquy
[15:49] <martinb> Only the ones which work on Linux
[15:49] <dosequis> Hawkerz: if I compare w/ working machine, working machine stast as not ready but there is a line where p7p1 'becomes ready'
[15:49] <jmgk> sorry
[15:49] <Hawkerz> ok
[15:49] <Sidhu> Ìû
[15:49] <martinb> wayne__: Not all have been ported yet
[15:49] <wayne__> Okay thanks man
[15:49] <Hawkerz> dosequis, and they both have only a single ethernet controller according to lspci -vvnn ?
[15:50] <Hawkerz> and sorry, I missed which release of ubuntu you said they are
[15:50] <martinb> wayne__: Once you login to the steam client, you get a list of your games. You then click on each one and see which it thinks you can use. There are probably all sorts of wine tricks also, for those interested in that sort of thing.
[15:50] <dosequis> Hawkerz: 13.04 server
[15:51] <wayne__> sounds interesting
[15:51] <martinb> I just wanted to play Kerbal Space Program :)
[15:51] <Hawkerz> ok
[15:51] <dosequis> Hawkerz: device is Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5787M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
[15:52] <wayne__> I found Windows xp would not update anymore, so its the real.. Reason I'm using Virtualbox for linux
[15:52] <hitsujiTMO> wayne__: also see #ubuntu-steam
[15:53] <bpietro> hi, anybody knows how to resolve this annoying&boring behavior: Unity with 9 (3x3) virtual screen, on #9 opened Skype window and Zoiper window. After some time these windows are still live, but move themselves to any other virtual screen (random choice)
[15:53] <Hawkerz> dosequis, same module is powering the other machine?
[15:54] <dosequis> Hawkerz: yes tg3 in both cases
[15:54] <martinb> wayne__: go look at steamos also.
[15:54] <wayne__> martin is it true windows xp doesn't update anymore?
[15:54] <dosequis> Hawkerz: output looks pretty much the same
[15:55] <MARKTIME> Hawkerz u there
[15:55] <Hawkerz> dosequis, also, sudo service networking status
[15:55] <martinb> wayne__: No idea. I'd assume that it's end of life, and only gets basic security updates. If you want to use windows as a platform, you will need a more modern version.
[15:55] <Hawkerz> MARKTIME, yep
[15:56] <dosequis> Hawkerz: running. Hey I have to run out of the office for a while. Hopefully you will be around when I get back but if not thanks again for all the help!
[15:56] <Hawkerz> you have a bizarre situation
[15:56] <Hawkerz> and the lights are flashing for sure though?
[15:56] <Hawkerz> where the cable is plugged in?
[15:57] <dosequis> Hawkerz: yes the cable is plugged in and lights are flashing
[15:57] <Hawkerz> lol
[15:57] <Hawkerz> I only ask because I had the same issue a week or two ago...and it turned out the cable was never plugged in
[15:57] <dosequis> Hawkerz: lol haha happens to the best of us
[15:58] <dosequis> I have a third box lying around - I will try to swap with that one this afternoon and see if that fixes the problem
[15:59] <Hawkerz> or put the hard drive inside, maybe it's lonely
[15:59] <eg0x> hi people. iam trying to use 3 monitors with ubuntu 13.10. i already got 2 up and working, but my 3rd one stays black. using fglrx driver with a ati 7850 gfx card. would be great if somebody is able to help me. thanks in advance!
[16:00] <buu> Oh god
[16:00] <buu> How do I make a usb headset work under ubuntu 3.10?
[16:00] <buu> 13.10
[16:00] <cristian_c> join #ubuntu-it
[16:00] <hitsujiTMO> buu what is the output of: lsusb
[16:00] <EFIguy> Hello, I'd like to install Ubuntu as a dual boot with Windows 8, however my laptop has EFI/secure boot (not really sure of the different unfortunately) and I really don't want to ruin everything. I have a separate partition onto which I'd like to install Ubuntu but I'm not sure how to go about it since I believe that it's NTFS or something
[16:00] <cristian_c> join #ubuntu-it-chat
[16:01] <buu> hitsujiTMO: Bus 002 Device 025: ID 046d:0a0c Logitech, Inc. Clear Chat Comfort USB Headset
[16:01] <hitsujiTMO> buu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/131812/logitech-usb-headset-not-working-on-12-04
[16:01] <ForSpareParts> I screwed up and accidentally deleted the apparmor mysql abstraction (was cleaning up after an old manual mysql install, long story). Is there any way to get it back? apt-get remove/install apparmor doesn't do it.
[16:02] <baordog_> Where would I find the source files for the unix utilities that come with ubuntu?
[16:02] <baordog_> like grep, xargs and such
[16:03] <Hawkerz> well, you can use the 'which' command to find out where they are
[16:03] <Hawkerz> and then you can use really anything you want to look at them, like less, or vim, or whatever
[16:03] <cariveri> hi there. booting seems to ignore the new boot partition with grub, booting the old windows way without menu. what do I need to do?
[16:03] <hitsujiTMO> buu: first: make sure its at least not an issue that ubuntu is just not going to a different device: System Settings -> Sound
[16:04] <bpietro> cristian_c, leading / missing ;)
[16:04] <baordog_> Hawkerz: As in there is a copy of the source on every linux distor?
[16:04] <Hawkerz> cariveri, did you run sudo update-grub2 ?
[16:04] <baordog_> I thought I just had the binaries
[16:04] <buu> hitsujiTMO: I don't have a system settings -> sound
[16:04] <buu> This is puzzling me
[16:04] <Hawkerz> baordog_, they call it open source for a reason
[16:04] <cariveri> Hawkerz: no. can I do that now on the livecd ?
[16:04] <baordog_> Right, but I would assume that the source would just live in a repo somewhere
[16:05] <hitsujiTMO> ForSpareParts: you could possibly try: dpkg-reconfigure apparmor                        i'm not familiar with apparmor tho
[16:05] <Hawkerz> cariveri, how are you making changes to the bootloader from a livecd?
[16:05]  * martinb goes for the big reboot...
[16:05] <Hawkerz> you would need to mount the root filesystem and then chroot
[16:05] <hitsujiTMO> buu: definately odd ... try that ppa then
[16:05] <Hawkerz> and then you can update grub, yah
[16:06] <wrale> do you know of any good way to lock the screen transparently?  for a heads up display which shows nagios and similar, i want to lock the keyboard and mouse, while displaying in a kiosk-like mode
[16:06] <ForSpareParts> hitsujiTMO, I'll give that a shot. thanks.
[16:06] <baordog_> Hawkerz:  That was really what I was asking.... where is the official repo. Where does Ubuntu get it's unix utilities from? are they from a central location or kept updated seperate to other distros?
[16:06] <ragutierrez_> hello
[16:06] <cariveri> Hawkerz: yes livecd. /-partition  is mounted to /mnt/
[16:06] <xckpd7> question: how would I undo this command?
[16:06] <xckpd7> sudo ln -f /usr/bin/python2.6 /usr/local/bin/python
[16:06] <hitsujiTMO> wrale: disconnect the keyboard and mouse?
[16:07] <ragutierrez_> I need help with my ethernet and wireless
[16:07] <ragutierrez_> can somone help me
[16:07] <wrale> hitsujiTMO: clever idea
[16:07] <ragutierrez_> they are atheros
[16:08] <buu> hitsujiTMO: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[16:08] <buu> Same with binary-amd64
[16:08] <ForSpareParts> hitsujiTMO, It worked! You're a fucking genius.
[16:08] <ForSpareParts> thanks, dude
[16:08] <cristian_c> bpietro, thanks
[16:09] <hitsujiTMO> ForSpareParts: np
[16:09] <cariveri> Hawkerz: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)  on update-grub2
[16:09] <ragutierrez_> Do you know how can I make Ubuntu recognition for wireless
[16:09] <hitsujiTMO> buu: soory, they must not have updated to saucy fully yet
[16:09] <babo> i have a bitch of an ubuntu problem, the only firefox package that my ubuntu can see is firefox-3.0 and i can't install that because it's getting 404's from the package manager i'm on jaunty jackolope
[16:09] <babo> so i've got no browser
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> babo: Jaunty is EOL, so there are no more updates for it
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> babo: I recommend a clean install from scratch using Precise, it is LTS and supported til APril 2017
[16:10] <neilp> Does anyone know how to get notifications working for "Back In Time" in Ubuntu 13.10 (Unity)?
[16:10] <babo> ActionParsnip: i don't have access to a browser so can you tell me how to upgrade my ubuntu ? preferably to the latest ...
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> babo: download the ISO, burn it as slowly as you can to a CD, or use usb-creator to make a bootable USB / SD card
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> babo: then install, be sure your data backups are sufficiently recent
[16:11] <Hawkerz> cariveri, here?
[16:11] <cristian_c> Hi
[16:11] <cristian_c> some time ago, I noticed that the volume keys no longer worked fine on 12.04
[16:11] <baordog_> which version of grep does ubuntu use? GNU?
[16:12] <Hawkerz> cariveri, did you mount your hard disk somewhere? if so, where?
[16:12] <cristian_c> for example, if I press the toggle key, the sound is muted. But if I press it again, the sound is no longer turned on
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> !info grep saucy
[16:12] <babo> ActionParsnip: i'd prefer not to do that, i just need firefox. i can't download the recent iso cause i don't have firefox
[16:12] <hitsujiTMO> buu: desktop or server?
[16:12] <cristian_c> even the keys to increase and decrease the volume does not work well: they do not reach the lower and upper limits (at least in the applet on the panel)
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> babo: you can download it with wget
[16:12] <cristian_c> what might be the problem? What should I look for?
[16:12] <hitsujiTMO> buu: sorry, wrong person
[16:12] <cariveri> Hawkerz: I mounted the rootpartition to /mnt/ and chrooted into it.
[16:12] <Trudko_> guys I am switching from windows and I am courious where should I put my development related stuff(libraries, sdk, source code) ? I was used to put these thigs on c:/dev should I put it in home folder?
[16:13] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> babo: wget http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/daily-live/current/saucy-desktop-i386.iso
[16:13] <hitsujiTMO> babo: desktop or server (or cli install)?
[16:13] <wrale> hitsujiTMO: just found xtrlock, works well for this.. thanks again
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> babo: I assume you want 32bit ISO
[16:13] <Hawkerz> cariveri, so if you were to type 'mount' right now it whould show yoru hd mounted at /mnt ?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> babo: This is only supported 9 months, Precise (Ubuntu 12.04) is supported til April 2017
[16:13] <babo> ActionParsnip: yes thanks. unfortunately i don't have any discs handy
[16:13] <babo> desktop
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> babo: got a usb stick you can use to install with?
[16:14] <babo> ActionParsnip
[16:14] <babo> oops
[16:14] <babo> yes i do
[16:14] <brontosaurusrex> Trudko_, yeah, the you make a softlink or something to that folder that would read as /dev if you want
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> babo: then use that
[16:14] <Shimpu> @marcepan
[16:14] <brontosaurusrex> but ~/dev should be good enough
[16:15] <Xethron> Interesting Article from IBM: http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/41926.wss
[16:15] <Hawkerz> cariveri, do you have a separate boot partition? if so you need to also mount that to /mnt/boot then
[16:15] <cariveri> Hawkerz: in the surrounding environment yes. not on the chroot whihc seems plausible.
[16:15] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | Xethron
[16:15] <Preytell> I am not a big ununtu user, mostly been in the corp world when it's redhat/centos/etc... I am looking for the reason behind something that I am seeing in ubuntu, the first few blocks and the last few blocks of /dev/sda are not being used. So when you extend a drive, and create a new partition the default starting block is not the beginning of the new partition it's the unused space inside that unused space.
[16:15] <babo> ActionParsnip: i'll try that if nothing else works. i've downloaded the latest firefox version but when i double click on the firefox executable nothing happens
[16:15] <Xethron> Interesting
[16:16] <Preytell> anyone else seeing this issue?
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> babo: we cannot support Jaunty here, it is dead
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Preytell: yes I se it
[16:16] <Hawkerz> cariveri, if you have a separate boot partition, get out of the chroot and mount it to /mnt/boot, also, you should mount the relevant virtual filesystems
[16:16] <babo> ActionParsnip: do i have to change the bios to boot from a usb ?
[16:17] <ragutierrez_> I Need Help!!!!
[16:17] <Trudko_> brontosaurusrex: ok thank you
[16:17] <neilp> how do I get notifications working for "Back In Time" in Ubuntu 13.10 (Unity)?
[16:17] <rawrmonster> i was trying to set up a openvpn server and when i was following the documentation on https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openvpn.html there are some files it is trying to get me to copy from "/usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/easy-rsa/2.0/*" and copy them to "/etc/openvpn/easy-rsa" (the folder they had me create). But the file's in the folder are not there so i can't change the files like they are telling me. I already have openvpn installed do i ne
[16:17] <cariveri> Hawkerz: Hawkerz yes ther eis a sep. boot part. mount showed it is mounted to /boot , but of course its not mounted in the chroot. can I mount it there too?
[16:18] <Hawkerz> cariveri, so that would mean: for VFS_PATH in "dev" "proc" "sys"; do mount --bind /${VFS_PATH} /mnt/${VFS_PATH} ; done
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> babo: most BIOS's have shortcut keys to cheng the boot device for one shot
[16:18] <Hawkerz> yes, you have to
[16:18] <Hawkerz> or else you can't update it :p
[16:18] <ragutierrez_> my Ethernet and Wireless controller don't be recognized by Ubuntu... They are Atheros
[16:18] <ragutierrez_> my Ethernet and Wireless controller don't be recognized by Ubuntu... They are Atheros..
[16:18] <ragutierrez_> my Ethernet and Wireless controller don't be recognized by Ubuntu... They are Atheros...
[16:19] <rawrmonster> It don't be recognized yo lol
[16:19] <brontosaurusrex> Trudko_, actually /dev is a reserved system dir, make up something else
[16:19] <hitsujiTMO> !patience | ragutierrez_
[16:19] <cariveri> Hawkerz: wait. mount in the chroot showed me /boot is mounted
[16:19] <Hawkerz> did you put it there?
[16:20] <Preytell> ActionParsnip: Do you have a reason for why it happens?
[16:20] <h31> Hello. Why there is nearly no updates on 13.10? Everybody are working on Ubuntu Touch? :)
[16:20] <Hawkerz> you still have to mount --bind /dev, /proc, and /sys
[16:20] <Trudko_> brontosaurusrex: i can create it but symlink would be problem right?
[16:20] <joew> Hello, my /boot partition doesn't have enough space for the recent dist-upgrade. It appears I have a lot of older files in it, such as: initrd images, config files, system maps, vmlinux. Can I safely delete the older versions?
[16:20] <freakynl> Hi, I just noticed 12.04.3 comes with 3.8. My 12.04.2 install is stuck on 3.2 (dist-upgrade wants to upgrade the kernel to a newer 3.2 version). Why doesn't it upgrade my kernel to 3.8 as well?
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Preytell: no idea, do you have latest BIOS?
[16:20] <ragutierrez_> rawrmonster: thanks for checking my sentence... can you help me with my problem?
[16:20] <cariveri> Hawkerz: it was mountd, I think I did not, but its ok isnt ? still this /user/sbin/grub-probe error
[16:20] <freakynl> joew: pretty much yes
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> freakynl: why do you need the 3.8 kernel?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> freakynl: is everything working ok?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> freakynl: sound? video? net? all ok?
[16:21] <rawrmonster> ragutierrez_: i need a little more info than your eth card is not working have you checked dmesg?
[16:21] <Rarrikins> How can I get the WiFi connection thing to stop asking me for passwords when the signal is weak? It'll stupidly sit there for hours without an Internet connection waiting for a password to be entered, long after the signal has gotten better.
[16:21] <freakynl> better LIO support. Or actually, LIO iSCSI support. 3.2 does not have it, I have servers with unstable 13.04 because of that
[16:21] <cariveri> Hawkerz: moutn in chroot: /dev/sda7 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered)
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> Rarrikins: try disabling N speed
[16:22] <Hawkerz> cariveri, mount in chroot lies to you, you need to exit the chroot to mount things
[16:22] <freakynl> err unstable I mean short term support. Not that ubuntu's support of LIO is great, been complaining about the targetcli on launchpad for over a year - even with newer ubuntu releases they don't bother upgrading the tools... (haven't checked 13.10 yet tho')
[16:22] <Hawkerz> also, that mount line does not seem to acknowledge that you have mounted a boot partition, which may be separate, but which you can't know without leaving the chroot
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> freakynl: it doesn't upgrade as doing so could break your system
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> freakynl: if you enable the backports repo you should be able to get it
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-generic-lts-raring
[16:23] <ragutierrez_> rawrmonster: well the first one is an Atheros Communications Inc. Device 10a1
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> ahhh
[16:23] <h31> freakynl: you need to install it manually, it doesn't comes as an update.
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Rarrikins: what wifi module are you using?
[16:24] <freakynl> hitsujiTMO: really? I've been upgrading my own kernels on my private system (not servers thus) for like 17 years. Number of things that broke because of the kernel (as in not my configuring mess up's): 0
[16:24] <ragutierrez_> rawrmonster: the system recognize them but it seems that the drivers are not installed
[16:24] <freakynl> besides ubuntu likes to keep a ton of older kernels laying around anyways ;) just boot the older one
[16:25] <cariveri> Hawkerz: did not help. I mounted /boot partition into /mnt/boot , chrooted into it, same error.
[16:25] <rawrmonster> ragutierrez_:  go to terminal and type "dmesg > test.txt" with out the quotes and pastebin the file (just make sure you don't have a test.txt in that directory or you will overwrite it)
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> rawrmonster: why not just pipe to pastebinit
[16:25] <Hawkerz> cariveri, did you mount the other 3 partitions i told you to mount as well?
[16:26] <Rarrikins> ActionParsnip: It looks like iwlwifi
[16:26] <cariveri> no I fogot.
[16:26] <rawrmonster> ActionParsnip: forgot lol i am a little tired
[16:26] <freakynl> and if that breaks things I'm quite curious on who decided to up it anyways. For example plesk supports 12.04. AppAssure supports 12.04, many other parties support 12.04. Don't think they'll be very glad 12.04(.1) has 3.2, 12.04(.2) has 3.2 (well with me, found some post from someone stating it came with 3.5...) and 12.04.3 has 3.8
[16:26] <hitsujiTMO> freakynl: while it is extremely unlikely for it to break your system, in rare cases it can. normally you should only need to upgrade the kernel for specific support (as seems to be your case).
[16:26] <dosequis> Hawkerz: just got back from lunch and swapped the machine...and it works! Must be an issue w/ the network card on that other machine...sorry I wasted your time
[16:26] <freakynl> hitsujiTMO: yea LIO's iSCSI stack is part of kernel since 3.5 iirc.
[16:27] <domo__> hitsujiTMO, follow-up: this helped http://askubuntu.com/a/169534
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> Rarrikins: run:    echo "options iwlwifi 11n_disable=0" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwififix.conf > /dev/null
[16:27] <domo__> hitsujiTMO, at least i think so.. dont know if my system will survive a reboot
[16:27] <freakynl> plesk probably won't care. AppAssure builds dkms kernel modules for their vdisk driver tho'
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> Rarrikins: then reboot to test
[16:27] <brontosaurusrex> Trudko_, let me try ...
[16:27] <domo__> at least it worked hard to correct all kinds of packages
[16:28] <Hawkerz> dosequis, no worries, i'm still confused by it
[16:28] <hitsujiTMO> dolo__: cool, good luck with the reboot :P ... hopefully you should be back to normal
[16:28] <dosequis> Hawkerz: haha I think it must be a hardware issue
[16:28] <cariveri> Hawkerz: your script line had a syntax error. unexpected do
[16:28] <ustdana> Hi All, anyone knows youtube-viewer ppa?
[16:28] <bjsnider> can someone with unity open an image please?
[16:29] <Paterito> I have an issue with a folder it's on /media I want to allow rwx for root and r for group and users but is not allowing me to remove -w on users it does on the root but not on users and the command even verbose to me that the new changes are dr-xr-xrwx wtf is going on
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | ustdana
[16:29] <Hawkerz> cariveri, well then do it manually
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> ustdana: do you mean minitube?
[16:30] <Hawkerz> sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev && sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc && sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys
[16:30] <ustdana> ActionParsnip: nope, youtube-viewer
[16:30] <freakynl> well thx for the info - gotta run
[16:30] <hitsujiTMO> Paterito: what filesystem is the mounted drive?
[16:30] <Hawkerz> once you have /, /boot, /dev, /proc, and /sys mounted into your chroot you can actually use it
[16:30] <ragutierrez_> rawrmonster: http://pastebin.com/zLpzzq3U
[16:30] <ustdana> ActionParsnip: I saw it here https://github.com/trizen/youtube-viewer/tree/master/WWW-YoutubeViewer
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> ustdana: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[16:32] <cariveri> Hawkerz: ah. now it works. it that all ? do I only have to reboot ?
[16:32] <Paterito> hitsujiTMO: don't know it's a live ubuntu
[16:32] <Hawkerz> did you update grub?
[16:32] <cariveri> Hawkerz: I mean sudo update-grub2 worked in chroot
[16:32] <cariveri> yes
[16:32] <Paterito> hitsujiTMO: ubuntu 10.04 to be exact
[16:32] <Hawkerz> i dont actually know which error we were fixing apart from the one where you couldn't update grub
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> ustdana: its a simple terminal command, no need to pastebin as its a single line
[16:32] <Hawkerz> but if yo uwanted to change the boot menu now would be an opportune time
[16:32] <ustdana> ActionParsnip: Zorin OS 7 \n \l
[16:32] <hitsujiTMO> Paterito: can you show the output of: mount     specifically the line reffering to the drive
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> ustdana: ZOrin is not supported here
[16:33] <brontosaurusrex> Trudko_, for example "sudo ln -s /home/ticho/videos /videos" will make my user videos accessible via cd /videos
[16:33] <babo> ActionParsnip: what if i just want to upgrade to the next version. can't i do that without having to backup all my files ?
[16:33] <domo__> hitsujiTMO, system is fine again! thanks for your time. off to some work again..
[16:33] <Paterito> hitsujiTMO: the folder I'm trying to create it's on the live file system
[16:33] <ustdana> ActionParsnip: Ok, thanks anyway..
[16:33] <brontosaurusrex> Trudko_, don't make an actual /videos directory before that
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> ustdana: try in #ZorinOS
[16:33] <cariveri> Hawkerz: it looked to me as if the master boot record was taken with win7 instead of looking into /boot partition. do I have to do something with the masterboot record?
[16:33] <brontosaurusrex> Trudko_, and  thats it
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> babo: you should have a backup anyway...what if your drive IDE fails, where is your data?
[16:34] <ustdana> ActionParsnip: Thanks again.. :-)
[16:34] <Paterito> hitsujiTMO: the folder is on /media but mount doesn't show type format for that folder
[16:34] <Trudko_> brontosaurusrex: so you are saying that i should run mkdir /videos but just run ln -s ?
[16:34] <brontosaurusrex> just ln -s
[16:34] <Hawkerz> cariveri, put the contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg in http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:34] <brontosaurusrex> no mkdirs
[16:34] <hitsujiTMO> Paterito: that dir should NOT ever be changed!
[16:34] <babo> ActionParsnip: will a disk still boot if there is other non iso files on it ?
[16:35] <Paterito> hitsujiTMO: is probably aufs that's what's on / btw
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> babo: as long as there is bot data, it will boot
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> boot*
[16:35] <Paterito> hitsujiTMO: I want to create the folders I want to mount fs on
[16:35] <hitsujiTMO> Paterito: you using sudo?
[16:35] <Paterito> yea
[16:36] <ragutierrez_> rawrmonster: here is the file http://pastebin.com/zLpzzq3U
[16:36] <hitsujiTMO> i'm unsure what the problem is
[16:36] <Paterito> #@$#@
[16:36] <rawrmonster> ragutierrez_: I am looking at it now.
[16:36] <ragutierrez_> rawrmonster: ok, sorry
[16:37] <rawrmonster> ragutierrez_: np which version of ubuntu are you running?
[16:37] <cariveri> Hawkerz: http://pastebin.com/fqWKuxrD
[16:37] <hitsujiTMO> ragutierrez_: you need a bios update it seems :P
[16:37] <ragutierrez_> rawrmonster: Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit
[16:38] <babo> how do i mount my usb disk ?
[16:38] <Hawkerz> cariveri, looks right to me
[16:38] <Paterito> first find out what dev name it has do sudo fdisk -l
[16:39] <Paterito> babo: that's waht I would do
[16:39] <cariveri> ok then I reboot? nothing with any old things from the systemreserved partition of win7?
[16:39] <rawrmonster> ragutierrez_: What driver does your ath card use? If you don't know type "lspci | grep -i ethernet"
[16:40] <Hawkerz> cariveri, i'm not sure what you're asking'
[16:40] <Hawkerz> are you talking about the normal boot repair partition in sda1?
[16:40] <hitsujiTMO> rawrmonster: ragutierrez_: lspci -k       will list the kernel driver
[16:43] <cariveri> Hawkerz: the boot label in gparted is nromally  set on the system reserved sda2 ntfs, and I setted the boot flag on /boot
[16:43] <Hawkerz> manually?
[16:43] <ragutierrez__> rawrmonster: did you type something... I lost conecction
[16:43] <cariveri> Hawkerz: in gparted yes.
[16:44] <rawrmonster> ragutierrez__: Did you see where i asked for the driver your card uses?
[16:45] <ragutierrez__> rawrmonster: no, how I do that?
[16:45] <cariveri> Hawkerz: or is that my fault? I thought that is the purpose of a sep. boot part.
[16:45] <Neurotoxin> is there a terminal command to install ubuntu from the live desktop`?
[16:45] <rawrmonster> ragutierrez__: "lspci -k | grep -i ethernet"
[16:45] <Hawkerz> cariveri, you probably should not have changed that
[16:46] <cariveri> Hawkerz: ok ill revert it.
[16:46] <Hawkerz> boot is where the mbr goes
[16:46] <Hawkerz> unless you are using EFI
[16:46] <Hawkerz> in which case there is no MBR?
[16:46] <chro> hi, how can I upgrade to the latest version 13.10 ?
[16:46] <chro> I tried with "$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" but it says there is nothing to upgrade
[16:47] <rawrmonster> ragutierrez__: i will brb going for a smoke
[16:47] <cariveri> ok Hawkerz I try reverting the boot flag on the old place, but I dont see how it would use the boot parition at all, since windows and mbr did not do anything to recognize it.
[16:47] <eein> so what is missing that doesnt allow me to see thumbnails or open content when mounting my android phone?
[16:48] <Hawkerz> cariveri, huh?
[16:48] <eein> seems odd, not an issue on windows. i can open them directly without first copying them on to the computer first
[16:48] <Hawkerz> you know MBR stands for master boot record?
[16:48] <hitsujiTMO> !upgrade | chro
[16:48] <Hawkerz> like, where your hd stores the record for how to boot
[16:48] <Hawkerz> it's only in one place, and it never moves
[16:49] <electron__> adb devices does not list my zte racer
[16:50] <ragutierrez__> rawrmonster: well, I have problems with Ethernet and wireless... so here is the output http://pastebin.com/AmT67wx3
[16:50] <cariveri> see. sda1-3 is windows including sys reserved with boot flag (I dont know exactely where the master boot record is, but I assume there). now I wanted to turn to a different place. the /boot partition . It should be independent of all win stuff so I could finally delete it one day.
[16:52] <cariveri> ok I try setting it back, ill come back if issues.
[16:54] <rawrmonster> ragutierrez__: its ok i have a site that can decode these cryptic outputs
[16:55] <rawrmonster> ragutierrez__: give me "lspci -n" as well
[16:55] <jubale> Having a problem with built-in mount of Windows disk. Windows was shut down properly, but when I clicked 'OS' in Nautilus, it says http://paste.ubuntu.com/6290058/
[16:57] <rawrmonster> ragutierrez__: you can add the -k flag to tell which ones are for your ethernet after the -n
[16:57] <rawrmonster> ragutierrez__: forgot to say that sorry
[16:58] <ragutierrez__> rawrmonster: it's ok
[16:58] <ragutierrez__> rawrmonster: do you want the files?
[16:59] <rawrmonster> ragutierrez__: yea
[16:59] <Rory> jubale: You have two options. The best one is to boot back into Windows and run chkdsk
[16:59] <jubale> Why run chkdisk? It shut down properly, no errors.
[16:59] <Rory> OK don't then
[16:59] <Rory> The ntfs partition is marked as dirty
[16:59] <hitsujiTMO> ragutierrez__: for your wireless visit: http://askubuntu.com/questions/215498/upcoming-support-for-qualcomm-atheros-ar9565-wireless your wired required a later kernel... more info here : http://askubuntu.com/questions/165192/how-do-i-install-drivers-for-the-atheros-ar8161-ethernet-controller
[16:59] <Rory> You can forcibly remove that flag, but it's presumabl;y there for a reason
[17:00] <jubale> This is the second time this has happened, first time I only had to reboot Ubuntu, which didn't make sense.
[17:00] <Wiz_KeeD> is there a way to format the hard-drive to install ubuntu and leave space to install windows later on in dual-boot?
[17:00] <jubale> Instead of simply rebooting, I'd like to solve whatever is causing it to happen.
[17:00] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Yes, use gparted to set the partitions up manually, then use the custom partitioning option in the installer
[17:00] <Rory> !grub | Wiz_KeeD you'll have to do this after
[17:00] <MonkeyDu1t> Wiz_KeeD  first win, then lin, or windows will ruin grub and you'll have to repair it
[17:01] <Wiz_KeeD> ughh, so that's why everyon says first windows
[17:01] <MonkeyDu1t> Wiz_KeeD  yes
[17:01] <Rory> jubale: Then you can use "sudo ntfsfix -d /dev/sda5" from the ntfsprogs package
[17:02] <hitsujiTMO> Wiz_KeeD: you can install ubuntu first ... theres more work involved if you install windows after ubuntu tho
[17:04] <Wiz_KeeD> That all makes sense, so I will do patience first
[17:04] <Wiz_KeeD> The thing is that I don't have a DVD or a bootable stick, just two laptops, my smartphone and a external hard-drive
[17:04] <Wiz_KeeD> And it's difficult to set windows live-cd from either :))
[17:05] <ragutierrez__> rawrmonster: http://pastebin.com/xJtLsG5K
[17:07] <ragutierrez__> hitsujiTMO: I'm gonna review it... I tried with the latest version of compat-wireless but nothing hapened... I will seee what hapen with this
[17:07] <rawrmonster> ragutierrez__: check up make sure hitsujiTMO's post didn't answer your question
[17:07] <ragutierrez__> rawrmonster: ok
[17:11] <musicholic> need help
[17:12] <ChogyDan> Wiz_KeeD: why do you need windows?  If the needs are minor, you may look into virtualbox or wine
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> musicholic  let's hear it
[17:12] <musicholic> i need to remount my windows partitions to ubuntu
[17:12] <Wiz_KeeD> ChogyDan, they are pretty minor indeed, I could just keep it to use my dlna software and all that
[17:12] <musicholic> can i do it without reinstalling
[17:12] <musicholic> ?
[17:12] <Wiz_KeeD> But with 1tb of space + 128ssd it would be a shame to waste it and not have some nice media software or a few games here and there
[17:13] <Myrtti> musicholic: what exactly are you planning to do?
[17:13] <Denyerec> Hey guys, anyone here trying to run 13.10 as a Guest on Windows7 through Virtualbox?
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> musicholic  mkdir [some easy name] ; sudo mount /dev/blah [that name]   <-- basically
[17:13] <Douro> what is the name of debian's .deb install tool? is it available/usable in ubuntu? software center is too slow and i want a gui.
[17:14] <Cuppa_coffee> can you use the mount command to mount things in a a network btw? Like a mediaplater?
[17:14] <Cuppa_coffee> *player?
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> Douro  gdebi
[17:14] <BAMbanda> How can I make a shortcut for terminal and put it on the desktop? I have gnome setup currently
[17:14] <anoop> why ubuntu consumes more battery charge than windows?
[17:15] <Douro> MonkeyDust: thank you, are there any issues using it in ubuntu?
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> Douro  not sure, I use apt-get install
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> Douro  or dpkg -i
[17:15] <ChogyDan> Wiz_KeeD: well, it looks like there is some klna software for ubuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/1755/what-dlna-server-to-choose
[17:15] <ChogyDan> I don't know about that myself.  I've done a _tiny_ bit with xbox
[17:16] <Wiz_KeeD> hehe :D
[17:20] <Wiz_KeeD> ChogyDan, any idea how I could install windows without a usb stick or dvd? I have a external hard-drive, my adroid phone with micro-card and another laptop if that helps
[17:21] <RayWizard> how do i find process producing sound sound?
[17:22] <apb> So I went to bed last night and I woke up this morning to a blank screen - normal after 5 or so minutes of inactivity - moved my mouse... hit keys on my keyboard... no reaction.  I was forced to power down and reboot.  This is the first time this has happened and the primary thing that changed was... the kernel.  ubuntu 12.04, kernel 3.2.0-55-generic-pae
[17:22] <ChogyDan> Wiz_KeeD: no, I don't.  Maybe you could install the image to the phone/card or the drive.  It might wipe the media so take care playing with that
[17:22] <hitsujiTMO> Wiz_KeeD: if the external hdd is empty you could just use that instead of a usb
[17:22] <anoop> Ubuntu consuming more charge than windows on my laptop. Reason please???
[17:23] <hitsujiTMO> anoop: no power maganement running maybe?
[17:23] <hitsujiTMO> anoop: what gfx card do you have?
[17:24] <ChogyDan> anoop: sometimes there are power management bugs in linux.  Make sure you are running the latest ubuntu
[17:24] <Wiz_KeeD> hitsujiTMO, it's not :( I was reading a few articles about it
[17:24] <anoop> hitsujiTMO: I heard that it is a kernel  bug. Is it right or not?
[17:24] <anoop> hitsujiTMO: Nvidia GeForce
[17:25] <anoop> ChogyDan: I was running 13.04.
[17:26] <hitsujiTMO> anoop: if your gfx supports Optimus then you could install the proprietary drivers along with bumblebee for better gpu power management
[17:27] <anoop> hitsujiTMO: Installation of proprietary drivers was totally a mess. So I just stopped installing graphics drivers.
[17:29] <sfb> I just started the Saucy upgrade and it appears to have retrieved openjdk-6-jdk about a thousand times.
[17:30] <sfb> It just keeps re-downloading it over and over again.
[17:30] <ragutierrez__> rawrmonster hitsujiTMO thanks I have wireless now... I think I can go on with this for now
[17:31] <anoop> hitsujiTMO: Can I just turn off the graphics card from Ubuntu?
[17:33] <rawrmonster> I have installed openvpn using apt-get but i do not have any of the config files that the documentation says i should have. How do i get the config files this is a fresh install of ubuntu server and openvpn
[17:33] <ChogyDan> sfb: can you pastebin some of the output?
[17:34] <c|oneman> how long do free Amazon EC2 accounts take to approve?
[17:36] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | c|oneman
[17:36] <ChogyDan> rawrmonster: are you following an ubuntu specific guide?
[17:36] <rawrmonster> ChogyDan: yes i am
[17:37] <ChogyDan> rawrmonster: link?
[17:37] <rawrmonster> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openvpn.html
[17:37] <ChogyDan> rawrmonster: which files are you missing?
[17:38] <LXPRO> Hello at all
[17:38] <rawrmonster> in the chapter "Certificate authority setup" i have made the dir easy-rsa but i have nothing in "/usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/easy-rsa/2.0/*"
[17:39] <rawrmonster> i made my easy-rsa in /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa
[17:39] <rawrmonster> so i know i didn't overwrite it but there is just nothing there
[17:41] <Denyerec> Hey guys, anyone here trying to run 13.10 as a Guest on Windows7 through Virtualbox?
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> !anyone | Denyerec
[17:41] <hitsujiTMO> !anyone | Denyerec
[17:42] <Denyerec> I'd love to follow
[17:42] <ChogyDan> rawrmonster: Im guessing you aren't running lts(12.04)  what are you running?
[17:42] <Denyerec> but it's utterly irrelevant if not running through VBox so whats the use?
[17:42] <rawrmonster> ChogyDan: ubuntu server 12.04
[17:43] <ChogyDan> rawrmonster: oh, nm.  erm, I dunno
[17:43] <Denyerec> When I run 13.10 in VirtualBox on a Windows7-64 Host with 2 Displays enabled, Unity breaks. Login is fine, but when taken to the desktop the laincher and top toolbar do not display. Does anyone know the workaround ?
[17:43] <ChogyDan> rawrmonster: maybe try the later guide anyway? https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/serverguide/openvpn.html       maybe they updated
[17:44] <Denyerec> Further, shared folders do not seem to function at all from Vbox or VMware, vendor VM tools installed.
[17:44] <Denyerec> (Crunchbang works fine with the shared folders)
[17:44] <rawrmonster> ChogyDan: lol yep i already see where the new guide has fixed it's self
[17:44] <LXPRO> join #fedora
[17:44] <rawrmonster> ChogyDan: apt-get install easy-rsa  :D
[17:44] <ChogyDan> ya
[17:44] <wilee-nilee> Denyerec, #vbox
[17:45] <Denyerec> I figured I'd ask in here, as Crunchbang is fine
[17:45] <Denyerec> So figured it was an ubuntu issue
[17:45] <Denyerec> I'll be back when #vbox tells me to ask in #ubuntu
[17:46] <anoop> Denyerec: nice
[17:49] <MARKTIME> Anybody here know anything about mounting a RAID0 created in windows in Ubuntu?
[17:51] <LXPRO> sazawal, hello
[17:52] <sazawal> LXPRO, hi
[17:52] <LXPRO> sazawal, where are you from?
[17:52] <wad> I saw a tool once that shows a graphical representaiton of disk usage. Anyone recall the name?
[17:53] <ChogyDan> baobab
[17:53] <ChogyDan> maybe
[17:53] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | LXPRO
[17:53] <nikitko> hello guys
[17:53] <sazawal> LXPRO, sorry
[17:53] <nikitko> in ubuntu 13.04 nautilus downgrade to version 3.6? how?
[17:53] <LXPRO> hitsujiTMO, Sorry
[17:53] <nikitko> парни, есть русские? подскажите как откатить версию наутилуса в 13.04 до 3.6?
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> !ru | nikitko
[17:54] <sfb> ChogyDan: http://pastebin.com/yBxRqch0
[17:54] <ChogyDan> sfb: is this from do-release-upgrade
[17:54] <sfb> Yeah
[17:55] <kingbeowolf> how can i install xfce without the programs showing up in Unity?
[17:55] <manny0080> can somebody please psm me n tell me how to set up a ssh
[17:55] <ChogyDan> sfb: I really don't know, but maybe you could just remove openjdk temporarily
[17:55] <sazawal> Can anyone tell me, when a file is opened in nautilus what is the trigger that ubuntu uses for recording recent history?
[17:55] <nikitko> !ru
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> manny0080  what do you ant to do with ssh?
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> want*
[17:56] <Console> Hey, quick question. What's the simplest way to have a native dev environment on your local Ubuntu machine. I would like to apache up and running where I can easily add urls like "test.dev" and easily manage the locations of those files and all?
[17:56] <hitsujiTMO> !xfce | kingbeowolf
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> nikitko, http://askubuntu.com/questions/286430/nautilus-3-6-doesnt-have-a-status-bar ppa's are not supported here.
[17:57] <manny0080> no i dont
[17:57] <manny0080> i installed ssh pack
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> Console  create a chroot, work in that chroot
[17:59] <sfb> ChogyDan: Hmn. Okay.
[17:59] <sfb> ChogyDan: Can't remember if I have anything relying on it directly.
[17:59] <lapion> does anyone else hav problems downloading the iso images of 13.10 with zsync ?
[18:00] <jack> hi...i need someone to do me a favor
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> !anyone | lapion
[18:00] <ni664665> hi there
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> !details | lapion
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> lapion  you mean rsync?
[18:00] <lapion> MonkeyDust, no zsync
[18:01] <jack> i need a http/ftp dowload-link for hexchat :(
[18:01] <trism> lapion: are you using a mirror? I always have trouble using zsync with the ubuntu cdimage servers after release, always disconnects
[18:01] <MonkeyDust> !info zsynch
[18:01] <MonkeyDust> !info zsync
[18:01] <trism> lapion: though it always works fine before the release, kind of strange
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> zsync ia working fine here
[18:01] <lapion> trism I get "failed to retrieve from ..."
[18:02] <lapion> trism, even if I add the url manually
[18:02] <kingbeowolf> hitsujiTMO: doesn't really help
[18:02] <sfb> ChogyDan: Cool, now it's doing it for openjdk-6-jre-headless instead.
[18:03] <kingbeowolf> what version of xfce does that command install?
[18:03] <ChogyDan> sfb: rinse repeat?
[18:03] <trism> lapion: sorry not cdimage, but the release.ubuntu.com server is where I have trouble, I'm trying now since I haven't grabbed an iso yet anyway, but you may just want to try a different mirror
[18:04] <lapion> trism, the download doesn't even start
[18:04] <Console> MonkeyDust: I have google'ed a bit, but is there a really good reference out there that you know of for setting up chroot?
[18:04] <apb_> Ummm....  mountall: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> lapion, post the code your using
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> !chroot | Console start here
[18:05] <kingbeowolf> how can i figure out what version of software a package contains?
[18:05] <lapion> trism, only the zsync file is downloaded correctly
[18:05] <Console> Thank you
[18:05] <hitsujiTMO> apt-cache show packagename
[18:05] <daniel2you> Hi, I am on Ubuntu 12.04 on a laptop writing to you. I just now downloaded Mint 13 to a dvd and tried it on my machine, BUT it won't show any icons. It will on my other desktop. Is Ubuntu not letting the live cd show correctly? I can right click and get a terminal though. What should I do?
[18:06] <daniel2you> Kinda new here with linux.
[18:06] <wilee-nilee> daniel2you, Mint is not supported here you want to use their channel.
[18:06] <daniel2you>   thanks
[18:06] <jack> mint is at15 now afaik
[18:06] <kingbeowolf> should i install xubuntu-desktop or just xfce4 ?
[18:06] <trism> lapion: that is what always happens to me, after it reads the seed file, just disconnects. so I would just try a different mirror if that is your problem, though in testing now, I'm not having that problem on releases.ubuntu.com today, strangely
[18:07] <trism> lapion: but it did redirect me to a different mirror
[18:07] <hitsujiTMO> kingbeowolf xfce4 will install the bare minimum xfce4 ... xubuntu-desktop is a complete desktop install
[18:07] <kingbeowolf> hitsujiTMO: what is included in the bare minimum?
[18:08] <lapion> trism, I was using cdimage.ubuntu.com.. but I allready started wget which works perfectly, but for bandwidth hoggings sake I wanted to only download the missing 45%  as compared to the beta iso
[18:08] <sfb> Okay, there's something else wrong. I can't remove libbost1.53-dev
[18:08] <kingbeowolf> hitsujiTMO: i know installing xubuntu-desktop in the past changed my loading screen and kernel i think
[18:09] <ChogyDan> sfb: hmm, maybe you are removing too much
[18:09] <hitsujiTMO> kingbeowolf: the xfce4 DE ... but no other apps ... are you just looking to switch from unity to xfce4?
[18:09] <ChogyDan> sfb: why did you use the graphical upgrade manager?
[18:09] <sfb> It's console based.
[18:10] <kingbeowolf> hitsujiTMO: id like to be able to move back and forth for testing
[18:11] <hitsujiTMO> then just installing xfce4 should be enough, you should have an option to choose your DE from the login prompt then
[18:12] <ChogyDan> sfb: apt-get dist-upgrade -d            try that, see if it runs
[18:13] <nikitko> wilee-nilee Thank you. but, unfortunately, the problem is not solved. I want to bring back the old nautilus.  I do not like the look of folders. I want to make a List (in the old nautilus). In the new, uncomfortable minimalism.
[18:13] <sfb> Console: Yeah
[18:13] <sfb> Console: Sorry
[18:13] <sfb> ChogyDan: Yeah - I was actually in the middle of that.
[18:14] <sfb> It appears to be working fine.
[18:14] <ChogyDan> sfb: ya, and then retry do-release-upgrade after, see if it is able to go
[18:15] <sfb> ChogyDan: Thanks. It's weird that it doesn't work within do-release-upgrade but does normally.
[18:17] <sazawal> Can anyone tell me, when a file is opened in nautilus what is the trigger that ubuntu uses for recording recent history?
[18:18] <hays> on my acer with broadcome wifi chip, i upgraded to raring and wifi says its disabled via a hardware switch now
[18:18] <hays> is this a problem with an easy fix or am i going to have to break out the ethernet cable are start toying with things
[18:19] <Sivik> what did the xscreensaver-command command change to?  Its no longer there.
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> hays  yes, ethernet is the easiest, fastest and most stable connection
[18:28] <theuser> hi, i reinstalled Xubuntu 12.4 LTS and now my skype is acting up like crazy crashin every few minutes
[18:28] <Trudko_> Guys if I nstall Ubuntu using wubi would it be problem to update it?
[18:29] <ChogyDan> Trudko_: yes
[18:29] <Trudko_> crap .. i dont have usb stick or dvd :/.
[18:29] <ChogyDan> Trudko_: wubi is discontinued
[18:29] <theuser> I a whole bunch of stuff including skype is missing from the ubuntu software center and i had to download skype directly from skype.com
[18:29] <datiti> hello
[18:29] <Trudko_> ChogyDan: and other way how to install through windows?
[18:30] <theuser> Beefore this reinstall, skype was working just fine
[18:30] <ChogyDan> theuser: try running from the terminal, see if there are errors
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> theuser  yes, skype is not from canonical, it belongs to some enterprise in redmond - i forget the name
[18:30] <ChogyDan> !install | Trudko_ maybe I dunno check out this
[18:31] <theuser> But i used to be able to install from the ubuntu software center
[18:31] <theuser> not that i care where i install from, but maybe that older version was more stable
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> theuser  activate the 3rd party repo
[18:32] <nikitko> wilee-nilee Thank you. Turned:D
[18:32] <Trudko_> ChogyDan: btw why did you say that it is problem to update ubuntu if I install it by wubi?
[18:32] <gogi_> ubuntu 13.10 with cinnamon menu icon error ?
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> theuser  or partner repo, rather
[18:33] <gogi_> ubuntu 13.10 with cinnamon menu icon error, after chaged it?
[18:33] <sam113101> does the macbook's trackpad work as expected on ubuntu?
[18:33] <vlt> Hello. If you wanted to build a solid desktop system with Ubuntu 13.10 and could choose between an "AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+" and an "Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo E8500 CPU @3.16 GHz" ... what would you recommend?
[18:33] <ChogyDan> Trudko_: just because 12.04 is the last release that has wubi.  It is discontniued
[18:33] <sam113101> will all the gestures
[18:33] <kingbeowolf> exit
[18:33] <Trudko_> ChogyDan: I am asking because I found http://schoudhury.com/blog/articles/install-ubuntu-13-04-with-ubuntu-wubi-installer/
[18:33] <Trudko_> so it seems that it shouldnt be problem
[18:34] <gogi_> somebody use 13.10 with cinnamon?
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> !anyone | gogi_
[18:34] <readyjar> So I'm running 13.10. I just installed kubuntu-full as well, but I want to keep the default Ubuntu unity login screen. I can't seem to figure out how. Using lightdm gives me the KDE style login, and gdm gives me gnome style. Can't seem to get unity
[18:34] <gogi_> thnks
[18:35] <gogi_> ubuntu 13.10 with cinnamon menu icon error, after chaged it?
[18:35] <Console> When creating a symbolic link, how do I create a symbolic link of the contents of a folder instead of the actual folder?
[18:35] <ChogyDan> Trudko_: maybe.  One of the reasons wubi was disconninued was too many issues.  But I see what you mean now.  You just want to use Wubi to get it installed.  Once it is installed, then I was wrong, you should be able to update fine
[18:35] <vlt> Console: What?
[18:36] <sam113101> does the macbook's trackpad work as expected on ubuntu?
[18:36] <Trudko_> ChogyDan: too many issues ? Do you think i should install ubuntu using wubi?
[18:36] <Trudko_>  I shouldn*t
[18:36] <readyjar> So I'm running 13.10. I just installed kubuntu-full as well, but I want to keep the default Ubuntu unity login screen. I can't seem to figure out how. Using lightdm gives me the KDE style login, and gdm gives me gnome style. Can't seem to get unity
[18:36] <Console> I'm in the directory I want to create a sym link to and I tried "ln -s ~/Work/Git/TransitLabs/demo/*" to try and copy the content. When I removed the wildcard it just created a sym link to the demo folder inside the folder I'm in
[18:36] <Console> vlt: Does that make more sense?
[18:37] <ChogyDan> Trudko_: that's all I know.  sorry
[18:37] <sam113101> you want to create a symlink for every file?
[18:37] <vlt> Console: A bit. What exactly is your goal?
[18:38] <Console> My goal is to have the directory with a different name, in a separate location, but with the same exact content as another folder with a different name
[18:38] <jhutchins> Console: To do what you're trying to do, remove the target directory and replace it with a symlink to the source directory.
[18:39] <hays> when i do rfkill list all it says my wifi is "hard blocked" what does this mean
[18:39] <jhutchins> Console: You want any changes in either directory to appear in the other, correct?
[18:39] <gogi_> ubuntu 13.10 with cinnamon: i changed menu icon, but after shuwdown ... menu icon change to defaults none icon