[00:00] <sepoki> case it returns string ?
[00:00] <Kuwanger> I've been having some trouble on this system.  It keeps cutting out my usb devices.    If I use a hub, sometimes they'll start working again.  I know the system is still working because the clock keeps running in the taskbar.
[00:00] <scatterp> msg nickserv identify magic123
[00:01] <scatterp> hi "lsmod" lists all currently running drivers  but how can i see a list of available drivers so i know what i could load ?
[00:01] <trism> sepoki: in case the path has spaces
[00:01] <sepoki> trism, nice
[00:02] <pepee> Kuwanger, post the dmesg in pastebin
[00:02] <pepee> Kuwanger, is the system underpowered or something?
[00:02] <blackshirt> scatterp, look it in /lib/modules
[00:03] <scatterp> thanks
[00:03] <almigi> Red_M: glad you "resolved" the problem. (ok, I know, bad pun)
[00:03] <Kuwanger> pepee: The dmesg doesn't show anyting of interest.  This is a 4 core 2.1GHz system.  I can post my current dmesg to give you some idea of what it is.
[00:04] <blackshirt> scatterp, usually under linux dir
[00:04] <pepee> scatterp, modprobe -l
[00:05] <pepee> scatterp, it's a long list
[00:05] <scatterp> aha jackpot :)
[00:05] <Kuwanger> pepee:   http://pastebin.com/E5MVspni
[00:05] <pepee> Kuwanger, did you check lsusb after they stop working?
[00:06] <Meris> My main desktop running just had a massive freeze which could only be resolved by physically pressing the power button for a few seconds. It was not only a UI interface issue, I could not even login remotely from another computer in my LAN. The most worrying thing: nothing shows up in the main log files, just a time lapse of about 6 minutes... Could this be hardware related?
[00:07] <pepee> Meris, you can try debugging it remotely
[00:07] <pepee> Meris, can you reproduce the freeze easily?
[00:08] <jacobrask> Hm, I think I just bricked my brand new macbook air
[00:08] <Kuwanger> pepee: Not that I recall.  :/  The system doesn't have PS/2 ports, so there's no way to go that route.  And if it starts working again, it seems to act like nothing happened. I'll try lsusb next time if I can.  I do know that when I tried to ssh in one time, it ssh'ed in fine and promptly dropped the connect and stopped responding to pings even.
[00:08] <pepee> Kuwanger, yeah, there is no info in that log
[00:08] <pepee> Kuwanger, ah, duh, yeah, you can't do that without a keyboard
[00:08] <Linkandzelda> can enyone help me to fix a broken tightvnc?
[00:08] <pepee> Kuwanger, can you do it remotely?
[00:09] <Kuwanger> pepee: Like I was saying, last time I tried, the ssh connection aborted. :/
[00:09] <scatterp> where would i find the source for /lib/modules/3.2.0-31-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/gspca/gspca_mr97310a.ko ?
[00:10] <blackshirt> scatterp, they resides on your kernel sources
[00:10] <PatrickDickey> scatterp, do you have linux-source installed? It'll be in there. Under drivers/media/video/gspca
[00:10] <Kuwanger> pepee: Next time it happens, I'll try again and be sure to try to do a lsusb and do another dmesg and hopefully it'll give more info.
[00:10] <javierf_> Hi! Is there a way to use Equinox themes on GTK 3.4 (ubuntu 12.10)? thanks!
[00:10] <Meris> pepee, no I cannot. I have a hunch that it is somehow related to my SATA controls. The last thing I could do before the freeze was unmounting(from fuseblk) an ntfs-3g formatted external USB drive. It is not the first time this has happened, 2 days ago  I had the exact same issue. Nothing shows up in the logs about impending failing hardware or repeated login attempts from outside. My SSH connections are strictly LAN-only
[00:11] <baskak> hi, while upgrading to 12.10 i lost my gnome classic/compiz settings. perhaps it has something to do with the gdm/lightdm question i encountered during upgrade, but it didn't make any sense to me
[00:12] <pepee> Meris, Kuwanger , can you try this?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Netconsole
[00:14] <Guest22330> ubuntu has a good gui and system of control once you get use to it
[00:14] <Guest22330> im computer savvy so i just need to wonder around a new system a bit to figure it out
[00:15] <Meris> pepee, I'll try a netconsole line to my old PIII lappy
[00:15] <pepee> Meris, Kuwanger , ubuntu 12.10? what kernel?  tried searching for reported bugs in launchpad?
[00:16] <Meris> pepee, I'm using Ubuntu 12.04, running kernel: 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP
[00:16] <Jeagar>  greetings, i'm working on a debian for android project. I've run into a small snag, perhaps you can help, include your hame if you want a design credit. please fwd data and http links to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>, thanks.  specificly, networking isnt passing via qemu between target and host. network started and ifconfig loopback only registers and data not passing. thinking i need qemu -net string and possibly a linux qemu compatablr vm driver in .deb/.rpm on a
[00:17] <pepee> Meris, you can even do that with a smartphone too :P
[00:18] <svspl> there is 3.2.0-33 already
[00:18] <Kuwanger> pepee: 12.04.  I found an interesting bug about irqbalance... I wonder if it's related. :/
[00:19] <bekor> hi friends using ubuntu 12.04.trying to find some secret trick to get my boot faster.using ubuntu 12.04.boot up is very slow
[00:19] <Meris> pepee, a smartphone you say? I'm running Android 2.36 here (not-rooted (yet) )Any suggestions for a usable app?
[00:19] <PatrickDickey> I had a similar issue to Meris and Kuwanger for a while with my E-machines. I think in the end, it was a motherboard issue (as the motherboard eventually died). I'm not saying that's their problem, but since I changed to a new motherboard (new computer), I haven't had the issues.
[00:20] <pepee> Meris, well, I suppose that as long as you can get a console in it, you can do it with it
[00:20] <Kuwanger> pepee: Hmm..too bad I don't see to have irqbalance. :/  And noapic doesn't seem to work--loapic is I think a thing newer amd cpus use.
[00:20] <LucidGuy> Got me an 8.10(intrepid) server…  recommendations on fastest way to upgrade to 12.04?
[00:20] <Kuwanger> PatrickDickey: Well, this is a new system (I bought it just a few months ago). :/  Not to say you're wrong, but I'm not sure how to test i.
[00:20] <bekor> slow boot , 12.04 any wisdom?
[00:22] <Kuwanger> pepee: Anyways, I'll look into netconsole if ssh doesn't work again.  Thanks for the help.  Hopefully I'll have more of an idea if it happens again.
[00:23] <pepee> Kuwanger, do you have windows and/or other OSes in it?
[00:23] <pepee> it's easy to spot hardware problem when you use more than 1 OS
[00:23] <Meris> pepee, I'm probably a bit old fashioned here. When you are talking consoles, I'm thinking of RS232 cables and a PPP connection. My desktop does not have any RS232 ports, just USB and two network adapters. When my desktop was frozen, I could still ping it, so my NIC was working properly, while my SSH session was not (my desktop did not close the connection though, it just sat there and waited until the client imed out)
[00:23] <PatrickDickey> Kuwanger: that's why I threw it out as a suggestion/experience only. ;-) In my case, I'm about 99% sure it was the motherboard, because I moved the drives to the new computer and ran them without any problems.
[00:24] <Kuwanger> pepee: No.  Just Ubuntu.
[00:24] <Meris> PatrickDickey, I would hate it to be a mobo issues, as I have an important exam coming up...
[00:24] <pepee> Meris, ah, sorry, I don't really know what's a console or a terminal, why they are called that way
[00:24] <Meris> PatrickDickey, issues => issue
[00:25] <pepee> btw did you both try the REISUB trick?
[00:25] <pepee> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Uses
[00:26] <Kuwanger> pepee: Yea, that doesn't work.  The keyboard is quite dead.    Not much else.
[00:27] <Meris> pepee, that would be a *classic* console, of course ;-)
[00:27] <vicTROLLA> Having trouble with a PXE setup. My preseed file is failing because the OS I'm installing over has LVM data that spans both physical drives. For some reason the installer doesn't want to delete this data. Any ideas?
[00:28] <pepee> Meris, there is a terminal app for android. there is sshdroid as a ssh server and connectbot as ssh client
[00:30] <Meris> pepee, an SSH client would do no good here, as my sshd was malfunctioning as part of the "freeze"
[00:30] <pepee> Meris, you would have to connect through wifi, and I suppose the wifi will be still working
[00:31] <pepee> but there is a problem, phones deactivate wifi when idling
[00:33] <const_antine> Hi, I changed /etc/resolv.conf settings for what i presume is a network manager
[00:34] <cowsquad> is any experiencing this error: System program problem detected. Do you want to report the problem now?
[00:34] <baskak> hi, while upgrading to 12.10 i lost my gnome classic/compiz settings. perhaps it has something to do with the gdm/lightdm question i encountered during upgrade, but it didn't make any sense to me
[00:34] <cowsquad> I am on ubuntu 12.10
[00:34] <const_antine> how do i make the new router address in resolv.conf take effect w/o restarting network manager?
[00:34] <const_antine> it rebuilds the .conf file and wipes out my changes
[00:35] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: add it through network manager.
[00:35] <nikhil_> hi. I'm having a little trouble with my synaptics touchpad. It's working ok, two finger scroll is fine etc. But, when I tap to click, the mouse moves too, causing me to miss the target 9/10 times. anyone?
[00:35] <nikhil_> there's a general inaccuracy about the whole experience
[00:35] <nikhil_> that is unfortunately not there on windows
[00:36] <nikhil_> so i infer it must be a matter of a tweak here and there to get it right.
[00:36] <d4rkh4nd> Hello, im trying to bootone of my old linux machines ibelive 11.XX. When i boot i only get a purpal screen after hearing the sound of the login/user select screen.
[00:37] <const_antine> PatrickDickey, does network-manager have a gui?
[00:37] <nikhil_> d4rkh4nd, when you press CTRL + ALT + F1 do you see a login screen?
[00:37] <nikhil_> (text based)
[00:37] <d4rkh4nd> yes, but i dont remember my password lol eather
[00:37] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: Yes. If you right click on the networking icon in your top panel, you'll see "Edit Connections" as an option.
[00:38] <nikhil_> d4rkh4nd, you're having a problem with your graphics
[00:38] <floogy> Hi, I copied my old disk to a new one. what would be the best way to get grub2 on the new disk with the right settings for the new disk?
[00:38] <floogy> I used gparted and I think it changed all UUIDs
[00:38] <d4rkh4nd> I did just put a new/old card in it. i should try the on board video i guess
[00:38] <PatrickDickey> floggy, boot to a live CD and fix it that way. !grub | floggy
[00:38] <PatrickDickey> !grub | floogy
[00:39] <jilebedev> Hi, what is the stdout of a bash script initiated by cron as root? Does it evern matter if I redirect that to /dev/null?
[00:40] <PatrickDickey> floogy: You'll probably have to edit /etc/fstab as sudo in order to change the UUID's then. Otherwise nothing will mount.
[00:40] <floogy> PatrickDickey, do you pfrefere chrooting into the system and install and update-grub?
[00:40] <PatrickDickey> floogy: I normally do it through a Live CD. I'm not a chroot expert at all.
[00:41] <floogy> ok, thank you. I'll have a look into the links you presented
[00:41] <PatrickDickey> floogy: no problem. Hope it helps.
[00:42] <floogy> OT regarding windows xp, that will repair it's ntfs on a first boot, right?
[00:43] <const_antine> PatrickDickey, I changed ipv4 settings of my network connection to Automatic DHCP Only, and filled in DNS Servers with local area addresses
[00:43] <PatrickDickey> floogy: that depends on what it's doing.
[00:43] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: and did that solve the problem? Can you use your custom DNS Server now?
[00:43] <kuwanger_> pepee: Well, it's happened again.  I've sshed into the box.
[00:44] <const_antine> my host is still trying to use the internet dns server, which leads me to believe it is still using the old configuration
[00:44] <kuwanger_> pepee: lsusb doesn't show anything unusual--the keyboard and mouse are still listed.
[00:44] <const_antine> here are the DNS Servers I listed: <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:44] <floogy> I mean after rezizing ntfs partitions with gparted they have to be checked by chkdsk /f twice.
[00:44] <pepee> kuwanger_, read the logs?
[00:45] <const_antine> There is also <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:45] <PatrickDickey> constantine, You'll probably have to restart the networking then.
[00:45] <const_antine> provided by the dhcp
[00:45] <kuwanger_> pepee: dmesg doesn't show anything either--it only notes how the eth0 link went up (I started another machine which has a crossover cable to the eth0 port).
[00:45] <nikhil_> ^^ anyone help regarding touchpad above?
[00:45] <kuwanger_> pepee: Is there anything under /sys/bus/usb/devices/.../ that I should be looking at/noting/recording?
[00:46] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: It should use your custom first, then go to your router next (I'm guessing that <IP_ADDRESS> is your router), and that will automatically use your ISP's.
[00:46] <pepee> kuwanger_, no idea, I don't know much about it
[00:46] <const_antine> I already did, dig still uses the old a.root-servers.net
[00:46] <scatterp> PatrickDickey,  I have linux-source installed but i am having trouble locating the source for mr97310a.ko ?
[00:47] <pepee> kuwanger_, are you running kvm and vbox at the same time?
[00:47] <const_antine> when asked to do something like "dig moon"
[00:47] <PatrickDickey> scatterp It's under /usr/src then the linux version. then drivers/media/video/gspca
[00:47] <scatterp> PatrickDickey,  i presume i should be looking in /lib/modules/3.2.0-31-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/gspca
[00:47] <scatterp> aha ok
[00:48] <kuwanger_> pepee: No.  I don't normally run kvm at all and I haven't ran vbox for several boot ups.
[00:48] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: it might be using cached data. Unless you're trying dig something-you've-never-visited
[00:48] <pepee> kuwanger_, still, try disabling one, or both, because I remember having problem with them
[00:49] <pepee> when running in parallel
[00:49] <kuwanger_> pepee: Okay.  How do I disable kvm?
[00:50] <scatterp> PatrickDickey,  I dont see it there ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/1316829/ ) only some headers stuff version is 3.2.0-31-generic
[00:50] <pepee> kuwanger_, if it's a service, I suppose something like service kvm stop; update-rc.d kvm disable
[00:50] <const_antine> you think my router's dns server will auto-redirect the queries to internet server?
[00:51] <Meris> pepee, my desktop does not have wifi, yet it is connected to an access-point that has (through a switch). I can arp my smartphone so I have the MAC address. The tutorial mentions netcat, but that is unavailable on my phone. Any suggestions for an alternative to that?
[00:52] <pepee> Meris, installing the android sdk and getting it to send the logs through the shell somehow
[00:52] <pepee> Meris, you'll need to connect the phone through a cable and to run "adb shell"
[00:52] <pepee> adb from the sdk
[00:53] <PatrickDickey> scatterp: you might need to untar the .tar.bz2 file in there (I'd cp it to your home directory first though). It'll be in there.
[00:53] <scatterp> ok
[00:53] <pepee> kuwanger_, ran lsusb?
[00:53] <Meris> pepee, that does not sound encouraging at all. The only machine I have with enough power to run the adb is (you've guessed it) the same desktop I want to troubleshoot.
[00:53] <kuwanger_> pepee: Yea.  Like I said, it looks normal.
[00:54] <pepee> Meris, it's somewhat complicated to set it up, at least it was for me :/
[00:54] <Meris> pepee, thanks anyway, I really appreciate the advice so far
[00:54] <kuwanger_> pepee: According to the kernel usb power management, /sys/bus/usb/devices/.../power/control being set to "on" should prevent things like the keyboard going to sleep. :/
[00:54] <kuwanger_> pepee: And honestly, that's the only thing I can think of to explain the state of the keyboard..
[00:55] <const_antine> PatrickDickey, assuming there is an RR record "printer-pc	IN	A	<IP_ADDRESS>", then "dig @dns-server-ip printer-pc" should result in answer "<IP_ADDRESS>", correct?
[00:55] <PatrickDickey> I think so const_antine. I'll have to try it to make sure.
[00:56] <pepee> kuwanger_, well, I don't really know what can you do, I've never had a problem like yours
[00:56] <Linkandzelda> is there any way to "freeze" an application on linux? like i want to make it sleep and not use any CPU while its not in use?
[00:56] <pepee> kuwanger_, ask in ##linux too
[00:56] <kuwanger_> pepee: Okay.
[00:56] <edbian> Linkandzelda, what's the difference between that and stopping  / closing the application?
[00:56] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: it works on mine. But, I don't have an ISP's DNS Server listed either.
[00:57] <Meris> pepee, let me remind you that my android phone is not rooted, so it cannot run anything "fancy" like busybox. I'll probably need a stationary machine that is likely to be on when the freeze occurs, right? Else my ailing desktop won't be able to send the kernel panic or whatever it will send through to the console, right?
[00:57] <Linkandzelda> edbian: since it takes 1-2 mins to open Eclipse, but it runs perfectly fine. I want to freeze it's state to save battery
[00:57] <d4rkh4nd> Hello, whats the line i change in grub edit  to use any video card?
[00:57] <const_antine> PatrickDickey, can you show me the Answers?
[00:58] <const_antine> *answer
[00:58] <Linkandzelda> edbian: guess i could use kill -STOP <pid> ?
[00:58] <pepee> Meris, ah, yeah. well, I just said it was a possibility, I like hackish and complicated things, sorry, hehe
[00:58] <edbian> Linkandzelda, I believe.  If you open eclipse, then minimize it, it will not be consuming any CPU cycles.  It will exist in ram.    Also, there is a package called preload but it does not offer the user fine grained configuration
[00:58] <PatrickDickey> One second, I'll pastebin it.
[00:58] <const_antine> I know rndc loaded the zone with that RR, and DNS dig should work, at least on that same host
[00:59] <const_antine> there's nothing in the log
[00:59] <pepee> kuwanger_, just copy/paste what you asked in this channel, and give them all the info you have
[00:59] <Linkandzelda> edbian: i see, i'll have to put it to the test then, as i plan to never restart this system lol
[00:59] <Meris> pepee, I like hackish things when I have the time to invest in them. I am but a week time from an important exam right now...
[00:59] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1316847/
[00:59] <scatterp> PatrickDickey,  that worked thanks
[00:59] <pepee> Meris, yeah, I understand that
[00:59] <edbian> Linkandzelda, good plan
[00:59] <PatrickDickey> no problem scatterp.
[00:59] <const_antine> :(
[01:00] <rictec> i m back ...
[01:00] <kuwanger_> pepee: Aha..  Good news (or bad, depending on your point of view).  I tried sudo lsusb -v, and now lsbusb -v is frozen on the optical mouse.
[01:00] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: why exactly do you want a custom dns server?
[01:00] <physically_fit> i need someone to help me in ubuntu-ops HELP
[01:00] <rictec> is 12.10 a pain to all ati card or just the one found on laptops?
[01:01] <pepee> kuwanger_, well, that could be very useful, I suppose
[01:01] <const_antine> PatrickDickey, i have a usb printer that i would like to share. so i thought of naming all nodes on my network
[01:01] <Guest23102> Guten Abend
[01:02] <kuwanger_> pepee: Well, at least it tells me that I'm not imagning that the device is unresponsive. :)
[01:02] <scirvir> quick question, where do i set the symlink so I can luanch an application from command line?
[01:02] <Guest23102> ich hab hier schwierigkeiten mit fehlerhaften Sektoren
[01:02] <scirvir> I've done it for eclipse in the past after a manual install.
[01:02] <pepee> kuwanger_, did you try disconnecting everything and reconnecting only your keyboard? also, do you have another mouse to test it?
[01:02] <jrib> scirvir: for your user, or system-wide?
[01:02] <const_antine> that way i don't have to remember the ip addresses whenever something needs to get printed
[01:02] <Guest23102> gibt es eine Möglichkeit die zu reparieren?
[01:02] <Meris> pepee, the time between the similar freezes has been two days. Today I can't do anything anymore. I have to sleep. Tomorrow I'll first inspect my case to see if any dustbunnies have accumulated in there that might cause overheating or similar issues.
[01:02] <scirvir> system wide
[01:02] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: You could also try something like OpenDNS. They have a configuration for handling local (in network) requests.
[01:02] <blackshirt> const_antine, you shoulde ensure your printer works locally
[01:02] <jrib> scirvir: use /usr/local/bin/
[01:02] <scirvir> jrib: thanks
[01:03] <kuwanger_> pepee: Well, I don't want to disconnect my wifi...  But, I've done so in the past.  I'll disconnect my mouse.
[01:03] <const_antine> i even tried turning it off and turning it on, blackshirt
[01:03] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: Or, if the IP Address won't change, add it to /etc/hosts so you don't need to use the IP (just the hostname).
[01:03] <nikhil_> hi. I'm having a little trouble with my synaptics touchpad. It's working ok, two finger scroll is fine etc. But, when I tap to click, the mouse moves too, causing me to miss the target 9/10 times. anyone?
[01:03] <nikhil_> there's a general inaccuracy about the whole experience
[01:03] <nikhil_> that is unfortunately not there on windows
[01:03] <nikhil_> so i infer it must be a matter of a tweak here and there to get it right.
[01:03] <nikhil_> anyone?
[01:04] <nikhil_> just point me in the right direction
[01:04] <Guest23102> I got troubles on some sectors...is there any possibility to repair them?
[01:04] <pepee> Meris, ok, good luck :)
[01:05] <kuwanger_> pepee: Okay, the usb mouse is disconnected..and lsbusb is still stuck on /dev/bus/usb/004/002, where the mouse was.
[01:05] <Meris> pepee, still, if my desktop still returns my pings, then the kernel should still be working at least partially. The both the 2nd and the 3rd layer of the IP stack have to be up-and running for that.
[01:05] <PatrickDickey> nikhil, have you looked in Settings > Mouse and Trackpad to see if you can change something there?
[01:05] <David-A> Guest23102: probably not. not repair. with a lot of luck maybe ddrescue or something can find some of the data.
[01:06] <scatterp> how could i override or force the product ID and vendor of a usb device? additional info here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1316851/
[01:06] <kuwanger_> pepee: With mouse and keyboard disconnected, lsusb still lists them.
[01:06] <blackshirt> scatterp, what you mean with override ?
[01:06] <Guest23102> so I just have to write ddrescue into the terminal?
[01:07] <floogy> I want to copy /usr and / of the old disk (I gddrescued that disk to an image file) into one single partition of the new drive. Is there any problem to do so? I want to use rsync to get it back on track when it might fail to read/write a block.
[01:07] <scatterp> blackshirt,  if i do lsusb i get product id and vendor id 0d98:87a0 i want to force that to change to 093a:010f
[01:07] <pepee> Meris, well, try asking in ##linux too, they know more than I do
[01:08] <scatterp> blackshirt take a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1316851/ might explain it a bit better
[01:08] <blackshirt> scatterp, there are usbmodeswitch that commonly doing that
[01:08] <Meris> pepee, it feels like a failing HDD. The kernel is still working, because it is loaded into RAM, major services such as SSH can't access the disk, so they can't write any logs. Is this a probable situation?. I will visit ##linux as well, thanks for the hint :-).
[01:08] <const_antine> shit
[01:08] <const_antine> we lost power
[01:08] <David-A> Guest23102: there are two packages named ddrescue or similar in the repositories (software center) install the right one, then use it from a terminal. BUT depending on the kind of problem, you may want to do all the work from a healty disk when rescuing date from a faulty disk.
[01:09] <kuwanger_> Hmm..and now I'm getting hung task messages in dmesg with an interesting backtrace.
[01:09] <pepee> Meris, well, try looking at the temps and S.M.A.R.T. data
[01:09] <const_antine> we're fucked
[01:09] <const_antine> :(
[01:09] <const_antine> bye. thank u for your help, PatrickDickey
[01:10] <Guest23102>  I'm running a live-session...I have a try on installing this packages...
[01:10] <Meris> pepee, well, the SMART data is still in the green and there are no temp warnings in the logs, realtime values as read from the mobo don't show any anomalies.
[01:11] <scatterp> blackshirt that seems to only work on multi state usb devices like a usb modem with a emulated cdrom inside it but i dont believe this device has any multi state functionality
[01:11] <David-A> Guest23102: before bother installing in a live session, plan for on what medium you want to save data
[01:12] <WeThePeople> are their any seo tools in the software center
[01:12] <Guest23102> it's just for my system on sda1 I lost after I had an update
[01:12] <bfortified> Finally setup NFS at home, My wifes account is able to manipulate files she doesn't have permissions for with out using root. Is this because she has an administrator account or because of a weak NFS? setup?
[01:12] <Guest23102> there is no other possibility
[01:13] <David-A> Guest23102: you can open Disk Utility to see what s.m.a.r.t data says about it, how bad it is.
[01:13] <Guest23102> how? It says "very"
[01:13] <ironhalik> Is there any hint on the release date of nvidia 310.14 final release?
[01:14] <blackshirt> scatterp, device id was fixed and vendor spesific
[01:14] <Guest23102> five cashed sectors
[01:14] <Guest23102> crashed
[01:15] <scatterp> blackshirt, yeah so no way to spoof it ?
[01:15] <David-A> Guest23102: are we talking system files that can be re-installed when you have a new disk, or is it invaluable family photos, which should be backed up anyway?
[01:15] <kuwanger_> Hmm...I wonder.
[01:15] <kuwanger_> pepee: Thanks for all the help and listening.  I'm going to try something.
[01:15] <pepee> Meris, run fsck?
[01:15] <Guest23102> it's some work for university
[01:15] <pepee> you are welcome kuwanger_
[01:16] <Guest23102> otherwise I'd not bother anyone
[01:16] <Meris> pepee, I just did, no problems there.
[01:16] <David-A> Guest23102: and no backup? (otherwise you wouldnt ask i guess)
[01:16] <Guest23102> right
[01:16] <Guest23102> I forgot to backup for some days
[01:17] <Guest23102> so if it isn't to hard, I'd try it
[01:17] <blackshirt> scatterp, yeah, exactly i don't know for detail....
[01:17] <Guest23102> the main problem is, I can't mount the sda1
[01:18] <blackshirt> Scatterp, sorry can't help you so much
[01:18] <David-A> Guest23102: there is info on data rescue on ubuntu support sites, e.g.: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[01:19] <Guest23102> David-A: just follow the steps?
[01:19] <zatan> Hey how  Can I add read and write permission on directory ?
[01:19] <tarrant> While running ubuntu 12.04.1 server edition I attempt "modprobe ixgbe InterruptThrottleRate=16000,16000" and get an error about no option InterruptThrottleRate. This is despite the documentation (and source) for the 3.6.7 ixgbe saying it supports the option. Any thoughts?
[01:20] <jrib> !permissions | zatan
[01:20] <David-A> Guest23102: and remember, don't use/mount the disk if it is bad and deteroating, let the tools copy data to a new disk as good as they can
[01:20] <David-A> Guest23102: check what steps apply to you
[01:20] <David-A> Guest23102: do you have a good available disk to copy to?
[01:20] <Guest23102> okay...thanks
[01:21] <Guest23102> a USB-Pin
[01:21] <blackshirt> zatan, if you want more control,use acl
[01:21] <zatan> cheers guys
[01:22] <astex> long ago synaptics was going to release their gesture suite for linux.  Did this ever happen?  Does utouch/geiss support synaptics?
[01:22] <astex> erm.  release it to end users
[01:22] <David-A> Guest23102: is the usb-pin big enough? if you use ddrescue it must be at least the size of the partition copying from.
[01:22] <ISOcrates> trying to get my wireless working via apt-get install firmware-b43-installer but it's not finding it. any idea if i have to se up a certain repo? running 12.10
[01:23] <Guest23102> no, it isn't. And I guess, copying over LAN is too hard for people like me
[01:24] <Guest23102> isn't there a possibility to select the file i need?
[01:24] <David-A> Guest23102: you can use foremost or similar to read only certanin filetypes directly from the faulty disk, then usb-pin only need space for the documents plus ghost copies.
[01:24] <Guest23102> okay...I'll try
[01:25] <David-A> Guest23102: but if the disk is bad, i'd recommend a full ddrescue first and foremost on the copy. then you need space for the copy.
[01:25] <blackshirt> zatan, add group read ?
[01:25] <scatterp> blackshirt, think i got it http://www.ha19.no/usb/ going to try it
[01:26] <Guest23102> sorry, but I can't find ddrescue in the list...
[01:26] <David-A> Guest23102: package name is gddrescue
[01:28] <David-A> Guest23102: if you use ddrescue you must have space for the copy, like a new disk. how big is the failing partition? how big is the usp-pin?
[01:28] <blackshirt> scatterp, good luck guys
[01:28] <Guest23102> as I said, my USB-pin is much too small...
[01:28] <Guest23102> so I'd rather relect the file to safe
[01:30] <Guest23102> and...I'm unable to install the gddrescue...I get an error message
[01:30] <Guest23102> gddrescue
[01:31] <Guest23102> 11: Resource temporarily unavailable
[01:32] <Jordan_U> Guest23102: There is a gddrescue package, but not a gddrescue command. What is the exact command you're running?
[01:32] <David-A> Guest23102: it is safer to buy a new disk. you can run "foremost" or "testdisk" to try recover certain filetypes directly from the faulty partition, but it will take an awful lot of time, during which the disk can become worse. and the usb-bin can still be too small if they find a lot of ghost copies of chosen document types.
[01:32] <Guest23102> I see
[01:33] <David-A> Jordan_U: ddrescue command samples at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[01:33] <Guest23102> perhaps I'll get one tomorrow
[01:33] <rictec> anyone know any prog to test vga performance?
[01:33] <Jordan_U> David-A: You haven't answered my question. What is the exact command you're running?
[01:34] <mjhszig> any network/internet gurus in the house?
[01:34] <floogy> which mount options do I need to retain uid/gid when copying from the old to the new hdd?
[01:34] <Guest23102> mom
[01:34] <Guest23102> 11: Resource temporarily unavailable
[01:34] <Guest23102> arg
[01:34] <Guest23102> sudo apt-get install gddrescue
[01:36] <David-A> Jordan_U: i'm not running it, not right now.  I thank you for your help, David
[01:38] <Guest23102> I'll try tomorrow with a bigger disc
[01:39] <Guest23102> and the tools you told
[01:39] <Guest23102> greets from bavaria
[01:39] <oddalot> OK, I just installed ubuntu after years of not using it, why is it so slow?
[01:39] <David-A> Guest23102: hope it works out. mind to participate in my poll? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2001222 :)
[01:39] <oddalot> I can barely watch youtube, and I thought my computer was reasonably fast.
[01:39] <Guest23102> okay...good night
[01:40] <rictec> oddalot: wellcome to my problem lol
[01:40] <David-A> good night
[01:40] <oddalot> Guess I need to upgrade again.
[01:41] <rictec> well did that....its worst lol
[01:41] <Meris> ok, guys, gals, I need to sleep right now. Thanks for the atmosphere. Have a lovely day or night
[01:42] <Meris> pepee, thanks for all the useful suggestions you gave.
[01:42] <pepee> no problem Meris
[01:43] <rictec> somehow it gets better
[01:43] <Guest23102> David-A I can't participate in this poll...but if it helps: I'd say once or a few times a year.  --> But just the system. Important files are safed more often. Let's say every day...
[01:44] <Guest23102> okay,
[01:44] <Guest23102> servus from bavaria
[01:44] <blackshirt> rictec, what the problems ?
[01:44] <rictec> what else ati and xserver
[01:45] <rictec> with 12.10
[01:45] <rictec> blackshirt: but its way better then when i started
[01:46] <mariusz__> a z polski ktos jest
[01:46] <blackshirt> rictec, sorry,hard to understand your problems
[01:46] <blackshirt> more detail please
[01:46] <rictec> blackshirt: its making 12.10 works with ati mobile x1400
[01:46] <David-A> oddalot: have you checked "system settings">"additional hardware drivers" ?
[01:47] <oddalot> yes
[01:47] <oddalot> I have the drivers installed
[01:47] <oddalot> the protrietary FGLRX graphics driver
[01:47] <oddalot> the problem, I think, might be that i have a very weird ati card
[01:48] <oddalot> it's an AGP , but all the other modesl for hd 4670 are pcie
[01:48] <rictec> blackshirt: fglrx didn't work radeon is tooo slow
[01:48] <oddalot> so i'm thinking the drivers aren't coded right for my card
[01:48] <oddalot> in fact, the ati drivers for windows don't even work, only the powercolor ones that came with the cd work at all on windows
[01:48] <blackshirt> rictec, have you try propietary drivers one?
[01:49] <rictec> blackshirt: i beleave that won't work on 12.10
[01:49] <rictec> blackshirt: and kernel 3.5
[01:50] <blackshirt> ricter, i'm not play a bit with this ati series..and maybe amd/ati have good support for linux drivers
[01:51] <rictec> blackshirt: they drop support for this chip for some time now
[01:51] <oddalot> i tried using gnome without unity too, but it didn't help
[01:51] <blackshirt> rictec, bad news :d
[01:52] <rictec> oddalot: you have drm working?
[01:52] <oddalot> whats that?
[01:52] <rictec> blackshirt: the bad did was to upgrade to 12.10 ...bad move
[01:53] <oddalot> what'd drm?
[01:54] <cfhowlett> oddalot: digital rights management
[01:55] <oddalot> I don't think that's what he meant?
[01:56] <oddalot> why would he ask if I had that working?
[01:57] <bernie> I just fixed my pulseaudio with "rm -r /var/lib/pulse/*"
[01:57] <bernie> a thousand poxes upon lennart poettering!
[01:57] <bernie> took me 3 hours to debug
[01:57] <rictec> oh sorry dmesg | grep drm
[01:57] <pepee_> bernie, report it?
[01:58] <bernie> pepee_: to lennart? or on launchpad?
[01:58] <rictec> i didn't had any problem with ati until i got 12.10
[01:58] <pepee_> launchpad :P
[01:58] <bernie> i had very bad luck with this sort of bug reports in the past. they always get closed for lack of details
[01:59] <pepee_> bernie, or well, lennart
[01:59] <bernie> what can i do... the problem is now gone and i don't know how to reproduce it any more
[01:59] <pepee_> bernie, yeah, I think launchpad is not very useful...
[01:59] <bernie> i should ha ve saved the files
[01:59] <pepee_> bernie, how did you debug it, and what did you find?
[01:59] <alusion_> what other ways are there to screen-record on linux
[02:00] <bernie> pepee_: i ran pulseaudio from a terminal under strace
[02:00] <rictec> oddalot: what ati card do you have?
[02:00] <oddalot> powercolor hd4670 agp
[02:00] <bernie> pepee_: to bisect the problem, first of all i booted into a fedora partition and chrooted into ubuntu to see if the ubuntu clients would play using the fedora server
[02:01] <sammywinchester> Hey
[02:01] <bernie> pepee_: the versions matched, so it was either a config file or a patch missing on one side
[02:01] <pepee_> alusion_, xvidcap is good
[02:01] <bjrohan> I have had a nightmare on getting ffmpeg to work with the codecs I need (everything says I need libx264) can someone advise on installing a static ffmpeg?  It was recommended in ffmpeg channel
[02:01] <pepee_> bernie, copy paste all that, and tell them in #pulseaudio?
[02:02] <pepee_> bjrohan, install libx264?
[02:02] <bjrohan> How?
[02:02] <autarch> I recently upgrade to 12.10 - now when I click on a torrent file, it opens in nautilus rather than in the torrent client
[02:02] <bjrohan> I would love the help
[02:02] <autarch> but if I double click in nautilus it opens the torrent client
[02:02] <pepee_> bjorn_248, apt-cache search libx264
[02:03] <bjorn_248> ?
[02:03] <pepee_> bjrohan, apt-cache search libx264
[02:03] <pepee_> sorry bjorn_248 , tab fail
[02:03] <bjorn_248> lol
[02:03] <bjorn_248> np
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> autarch, Change the open with in properties on the torrent
[02:03] <bjrohan> it says I have libx264-123 and -123 dev installed, still a no go
[02:03] <autarch> I should clarify that this only happens with chrome - if I use firefox it does the right thing
[02:03] <autarch> wilee-nilee: yeah, already tried that
[02:04] <bjrohan> pepee_: it says I have libx264-123 and -123 dev installed, still a no go
[02:04] <alusion_> pepee_, are there any that won't mess up during compiz effects?
[02:04] <autarch> the properties _are_ set correctly which is why I can double click the .torrent file in nautilus and it open the torrent app
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> autarch, Wil the torrent client open them?
[02:04] <pepee_> bjrohan, ah. hmm, tried googling the error message
[02:04] <bernie> pepee_: good idea, i'm on #pulseaudio
[02:04] <autarch> wilee-nilee: yeah, that part works fine
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> strange
[02:04] <pepee_> alusion_, no idea, sorry
[02:04] <autarch> I just can't figure out why when I click on the file in chrome it opens nautilus
[02:05] <autarch> afaict, chrome has no config for this, it just lets the desktop handle it
[02:05] <autarch> I note that if I do "xdg-open http://...torrent" it opens nautilus too
[02:05] <caaakeeey> hey all, cant get 3d acceleration going for vbox, so im looking for a 2d window manager and how to install it - thanks
[02:05] <David-A> bjrohan: have you installed *ubuntu-restricted-extras? or the medibuntu repos?
[02:06] <Edve> hi people
[02:06] <bjrohan> David-A the extras and addons
[02:06] <cfhowlett> Edve: greetings
[02:06] <Edve> Anyone have good feedbacks about Ubuntu 12.10 ?
[02:07] <autarch> Edve: everything's fine for me except having to fiddle with pulseaudio yet again
[02:07] <autarch> and the problem I'm having with some file associations
[02:07] <bjrohan> pepee_:  and David-A here is what I want to do. Do a screencapture with audio, then imprt that into a GUI like Snapshot to edit with title shots, and then export. I have installed WinFF and when I try anthing it says no ffmpeg or avcon. I have ffmpeg installed as I tried to do a recording and was abe to get just .avi no sound, when I tired adding sound I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1316880/
[02:09] <bjrohan> pepee_:  and/or David-A I tired using RecordDeskTop, which the file played okay in VLC, but when put in OPenShot, or trying to convert it goes haywire
[02:09] <cfhowlett> bjrohan: might also want to pose this query in #ubuntustudio
[02:10] <caaakeeey> meh, i installed kubuntu - but what's everyones favourite window manager? (still 2d only)
[02:10] <AndIrc> gnome
[02:11] <AndIrc> compiz
[02:11] <pepee_> bjrohan, ahh, you are using the "old" ffmpeg
[02:11] <pepee_> bjrohan, that could be the problem, I'm not sure anyway
[02:11] <bjrohan> pepee_:  How do I get the new one? This is what is in the repo
[02:11] <David-A> bjrohan: i think it is the x11grab that fails, not the x264
[02:11] <simplew> its raining here...
[02:12] <David-A> here too
[02:12] <lahwran> why doesn't the ubuntu software center allow me to see the output of apt-get?
[02:12] <lahwran> or dpkg
[02:12] <FireStorms> Hey anyone know if this Blu-ray writer would work on Ubutnu 10.04 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lite-On-IHBS312-31-LiteOn-IHBS312-12X-Blu-Ray-Disk-Writer-with-SATA-Interf-/350623282334?pt=UK_Computing_Other_Computing_Networking&hash=item51a2c6b49e
[02:12] <simplew> David-A: where are you
[02:12] <pepee_> bjrohan, try using avconv from libav-tools
[02:12] <simplew> lahwran: i recoomend synaptic usage
[02:12] <pepee_> bjrohan, it shares some syntax, but it's different
[02:12] <kujablak> hi, I'm having trouble installing pep8, I've tried using the executable file that they give but nothing happens when I call it, I have access to the sources is it possible to build the software easily or should I find another to install it ?
[02:13] <bjrohan> pepee_: when I convert with VLC, it is scratchy audio and no video convert the recordmydesktop ogv to mpeg4
[02:13] <David-A> simplew: right-click David-A > Country: Sweden
[02:13] <bjrohan> pepee_: How do I use the avconc tools?
[02:13] <lahwran> simplew: I use the commandline when I can, but occasionally my web browser opens the ubuntu software center and I can't avoid it
[02:13] <simplew> David-A: shouldnt be there snowing?
[02:13] <lahwran> kujablak: pip install pep8, don't use the ubuntu package
[02:13] <simplew> lahwran: really? that never happened here
[02:13] <lahwran> kujablak: also, do it in a virtualenv if you can
[02:13] <David-A> simplew: later...
[02:14] <cfhowlett> bjorn_248: there is a "new" ffmpeg available
[02:14] <simplew> lahwran: but i think you can avoid that by removing those unity firefox extras
[02:14] <simplew> David-A: later?
[02:14] <autarch> I tried everything mentioned here - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Default_Applications
[02:14] <bjorn_248> people keep highlighting me but I'm not talking to anyone :<
[02:14] <pepee_> bjrohan, I don't know much about it... I used it only once, and for something quick & easy
[02:14] <autarch> there's no setting for torrent files in gconf or dconf, AFAICT
[02:14] <kujablak> lahwran, my teacher told us that a known issue was with 64-bits platforms and working fine on 32bit, are you saying that I should use pol and use the windows package ?
[02:15] <bjrohan> okay, thanks pepee_
[02:15] <pepee> np bjrohan
[02:15] <simplew> kujablak: windows package?!?
[02:15] <David-A> simplew: yes please
[02:15] <pepee> bjrohan, I suppose there is a #avconv channel or something
[02:15] <kujablak> simplew, sorry, windows .exe
[02:15] <simplew> David-A: im not follwoing you
[02:16] <simplew> kujablak: .exe does not work in linux
[02:16] <kujablak> simplew, that's why I'd use pol and wine
[02:16] <David-A> simplew: yes, later please
[02:16] <Dragonster82> Hey does anyone know why is it that when I record my screen with Kazam Screencaster, my computer suddenly becomes laggy?
[02:16] <lahwran> kujablak: absolutely not! open a commandline and type 'pip install pep8'
[02:16] <simplew> kujablak: unless you use embedded solution swhich are damn slow
[02:16] <simplew> lahwran: whats that?
[02:17] <lahwran> the python package manager
[02:17] <simplew> Dragonster82: no
[02:17] <simplew> lahwran: yes, sorry
[02:17] <lahwran> you don't want to use apt or debian packages to install python stuff
[02:17] <kujablak> lahwran, yes, but I can't install pip
[02:18] <kujablak> lahwran, I get Permission denied
[02:18] <lahwran> sudo apt-get install pip
[02:18] <lahwran> or it might be python-pip, not sure
[02:18] <simplew> kujablak: why not???
[02:18] <kujablak> lahwran, it's python-pip and permission is denied
[02:18] <simplew> lahwran: sudo apt-get install python-pip
[02:18] <lahwran> so do it with sudo
[02:18] <kujablak> simplew, I have no idea
[02:18] <kujablak> lahwran, I did it with sudo
[02:19] <Dragonster82> But man, I really need to record my desktop.
[02:19] <lahwran> then you can't install it, stop trying
[02:19] <Dragonster82> It just won't do with all the lag.
[02:19] <simplew> kujablak: what ubuntu are you using?
[02:19] <lahwran> kujablak: if you get permission denied with sudo, it means someone else owns root :p
[02:19] <kujablak> simplew, I'm on maverick (yes I know)
[02:19] <kujablak> lahwran, how is that even possible ?
[02:20] <simplew> i just did isntalled pip
[02:20] <simplew> kujablak: why still use such an old release?
[02:20] <yuio> !ot
[02:20] <David-A> Dragonster82: my experience is full screen recording takes its toll on performance
[02:20] <kujablak> simplew, I'm gonna switch but I need time and I don't have it ...
[02:21] <lahwran> kujablak: do you own this computer?
[02:21] <simplew> kujablak: camon you dont need so much time
[02:21] <kujablak> simplew, also, I'm having major problems with recent releases when using them via liveUSB
[02:21] <Dragonster82> David-A: I never had any problems with recording my screen while using Windows.
[02:21] <autarch> aha, I installed xfce4 and it's using exo-open under the hood
[02:21] <kujablak> simplew, I at least need to do a backup
[02:21] <simplew> kujablak: you have a very simple solution-> dd
[02:21] <Dragonster82> David-A: I switched to Ubuntu because my windows was infected with a deadly virus and I didn't want to net out $200 bucks just to reformat.
[02:22] <kujablak> simplew, I don't have a disk to welcome the datas
[02:22] <insomniac_lemon> I tried upgrading from Natty to Precise because everyone on IRC told me "you can't stay on it forever". So I decided to try and update. I did it and it was screwed up, most of the icons were gone, the top bar didn't work, and most applications wouldn't start. So, I did a fresh install. Now I don't have any sound, and I decided to do a graphics driver update, which screwed up my screen, as 1920x1080 doesn't fit the screen, whi
[02:22] <simplew> Dragonster82: why you dont do it yourself?
[02:22] <Dragonster82> simplew: Do what myself?
[02:22] <autarch> why it would choose that when I'm in gnome I have no idea
[02:22] <simplew> kujablak: usb sticks are chip
[02:22] <simplew> Dragonster82: what you just said, format
[02:23] <kujablak> simplew, maybe for you ...
[02:23] <bernie> has anyone experienced unity crashing as soon as one hovers the dash?
[02:23] <simplew> kujablak: camon, you can by a usb stick 8GB for 10€
[02:23] <David-A> Dragonster82: what you record with? with recordmydesktop one can separate the recording phase and the encoding phase, but it will need lots of disk space then
[02:23] <simplew> kujablak: still you can go for a dvd
[02:24] <insomniac_lemon> So, in my problems, no sound under any configuration, resolution not working right, alt+right click will not bring up the menu, and empathy IRC client will not connect properly.
[02:24] <Dragonster82> simplew: To reformat I will need the Windows disc, but my laptop doesn't come with it. Besides, I asked for a recovery disc and they told me I had to pay.
[02:24] <kujablak> I don't want to switch right now
[02:24] <Dragonster82> David-A: recordmydesktop's playback is too fast when I enable Encode On The Fly. But if I were to disable it, it would be really laggy.
[02:24] <simplew> Dragonster82: so why dont you get an windows copy, there so much torrents from original win 7 and such
[02:25] <simplew> kujablak: thats another story...
[02:25] <cfhowlett> simplew: legal download for windows 7 is at digitalriver.com
[02:25] <kujablak> maybe I wasn't clear before, but it's not a "root" problem that I'm having
[02:25] <kujablak> it's the server that denies me acces, if I understand properly
[02:25] <Dragonster82> simplew: I've already tried that, but the thing is that: If I were to install windows 7 by torrenting, it would give me the results of a desktop one, not allowing me to connect to wireless network and such.
[02:26] <simplew> Dragonster82: why not???
[02:26] <somsip> Dragonster82: there are a few videos on You Tube that explain the settings to use that solve the problems with recordmydesktop. Can't remember it off the top of my head though
[02:26] <OerHeks> bug 1
[02:26] <bazhang> simplew, never suggest piracy here
[02:26] <kujablak> lahwran, /pub/mirror/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/python-pip/python-pip_0.7.2-1_all.deb: Permission denied <- that's not a "root" problem
[02:27] <rictec_> i cant find a solution to my driver problem
[02:27] <Dragonster82> @somsip: I've already checked those videos, the problem is not with my screen resolution etc.
[02:27] <Danon> War-Games
[02:28] <somsip> Dragonster82: ok - they solved the same problem for me. Took me a couple of hours of fiddling though. And trying other screen capture software that I couldn't get working either...
[02:28] <simplew> cfhowlett: in digitalriver.com appears to be only for win 8....
[02:28] <pepee> rictec_, what problem?
[02:28] <rictec_> pepee: ati x1400 driver too slow
[02:29] <Dragonster82> @somsip: I think it must be my GPU, Ubuntu 12.10 doesn't support Nvidia Optimus, so I guess that sucks.
[02:29] <cfhowlett> simplew: ah.  then they have removed the previous version.  Sorry for the bad intel.
[02:29] <somsip> Dragonster82: ah - ok. I'm on 12.04 with nvidia, but not optimus, so maybe a different kettle of fish
[02:29] <simplew> Dragonster82: im running ubuntu 12.10 with nvidia optimus (from bumblebee)
[02:30] <xyzone> Dragonster82, you could try installing bumblebee to use optimus
[02:30] <Dragonster82> simplew: You know, I don't really feel like going to the terminal and typing optirun blablabla. Its really tiring you know.
[02:30] <pepee> rictec_, ubuntu 12.10?
[02:30] <rictec_> pepee: yep my mistake
[02:30] <simplew> Dragonster82: you can add the bumblebee repo available from launchpad and install it, and you another GUI to allow you to run apps from optirun
[02:31] <pepee> rictec_, using fglrx/catalyst?
[02:31] <insomniac_lemon> Any help? My most annoying problem is that the resolution that usually fits on my screen anymore, and that I can't alt+right click anymore, because once I minimize windows, they are gone forever.
[02:31] <xyzone> Dragonster82, you can make links that include optirun
[02:31] <rictec_> pepee: no radeon i could get those two to compile and work
[02:31] <insomniac_lemon> Because I didn't add a window list on my panel
[02:32] <simplew> Dragonster82: still i dont use to use optirun, im simply satisfied to have bumblebee runing that puts only the notebook temperature in good levels
[02:33] <pepee> rictec_, in that case, I'd ask in #ati or ##ati , not sure which one is it
[02:33] <rictec_> pepee: i think ati or amd drop support to that chip ages ago
[02:34] <pepee> rictec_, yeah, I didn't know that
[02:34] <Dragonster82> @simplew: I've done sudo apt-get install bumblebee , what do I do now>
[02:34] <lahwran> heh, speaking of amd, I'm hitting a lockup bug which is apparently known, but the fix was not included in 12.04.1 unfortunately from what I can tell
[02:34] <pepee> rictec_, latest kernels should come with better drivers, at least for those cards, I suppose
[02:34] <kujablak> simplew, by the way, one of the reasons why I don't upgrade is because the more I go into recent releases, the slower my laptop gets and less and less accessories are working
[02:34] <pepee> rictec_, also, are you sure the driver is loaded?
[02:34] <lahwran> I hope it's been pushed out via the updates channels by now
[02:34] <simplew> Dragonster82: https://launchpad.net/~bumblebee/+archive/stable
[02:35] <pepee> lahwran, tried catalyst 12.11 beta?
[02:35] <rictec_> pepee: yes driver loads but something is still broken cos i allways get a low resolution option on boot
[02:35] <lahwran> pepee: I have not, though I might soon
[02:35] <simplew> Dragonster82: first you need to add the repo, but go to that link and read
[02:36] <lahwran> pepee: I'm currently working from a live usb which makes it hard to install kernel stuff
[02:36] <Dragonster82> simplew: Ubuntu 12.10 has issues with Nvidia
[02:36] <Dragonster82> simplew: The desktop will not show if I were to install it.
[02:36] <lahwran> how do I shut off compiz in unity?
[02:36] <pepee> lahwran, ah, yeah, that's kinda impossible heh
[02:37] <pepee> at least, I wouldn't know how to do it
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> lahwran, unity is a plugin in compiz
[02:37] <lahwran> I just need to get this installed but I don't want it blowing up before I do
[02:37] <lahwran> wilee-nilee: .... what
[02:37] <simplew> Dragonster82: what???
[02:37] <lahwran> wilee-nilee: what kind of lunatic design is that? anyway, how can I shut off pretty graphics in unity?
[02:37] <Dragonster82> simplew: Simply putting it, there's going to be a bug if I install Nvidia n ow.
[02:37] <simplew> Dragonster82: please read https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki
[02:38] <simplew> Dragonster82: im running 12.10 so that you know
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> lahwran, not sure really.
[02:38] <lahwran> :<
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> lahwran, You have a persistince setup?
[02:38] <simplew> Dragonster82: i have no clue from where did you get that, but i assure you i have no issues
[02:39] <lahwran> wilee-nilee: on the usb drive? yeah
[02:39] <lahwran> I want to get ubuntu installed using LVM
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> lahwran, what you do on the usb is not transfered to a install
[02:40] <lahwran> I understand that
[02:40] <insomniac_lemon> If I don't get any help, I'm going to need to roll back to 11.04
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> insomniac_lemon, I thinl 11.04 just went eol
[02:41] <physically_fit> ha
[02:42] <insomniac_lemon> wilee-nilee, yes, I know, but I'm having major issues with 12.04
[02:42] <pepee> insomniac_lemon, try installing some other desktop environment
[02:42] <physically_fit> 12.04 rules
[02:43] <kujablak_> well, now I'm not worried about pep8 anymore, now it seems that I'm unable to install anything at all
[02:43] <insomniac_lemon> I don't think it's the environment, I'm using Gnome fallback, but the resolution shouldn't be affected by that
[02:43] <pepee> kde, xfce, lxde, gnome2, ...
[02:43] <pepee> insomniac_lemon, what graphics card?
[02:43] <bazhang> physically_fit, stay on topic please
[02:43] <insomniac_lemon> nVidia GTS 450
[02:43] <pepee> that could be a graphics driver problem
[02:44] <pranav> How to see my tomboy synchronized notes online ?
[02:44] <xangua> pranav: that feature has long been removed from ubuntu one
[02:44] <physically_fit> bazhang, why no logs on offtopic?
[02:45] <pranav> xangua: so, what does they do when they synchronize ?
[02:45] <pepee> insomniac_lemon, alt+tab should show the minimized windows
[02:45] <RichardRaseley> Running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. After creating a bridged interface so that I can use it with my QEMU VMs, I cannot manage the network connection via the GUI "Wired Network Device not Managed" notice. Any advice on how to correct this?
[02:45] <pepee> hmm gotta go, brb
[02:46] <pranav> xangua: you sort of saved me. I was using it to store very imp. notes :| Now, I make sure to backup it some place other than tomboy notes
[02:46] <insomniac_lemon> pepee, it doesn't seem to, but also alt+right click has stopped working. So it might not know I'm pressing alt
[02:46] <pranav> is there some sort of thing that syncs notes like tomboy yet we can read it online if our sys. wipes :?
[02:47] <pepee> insomniac_lemon, try using xrandr to change/view the resolution
[02:47] <lahwran> what other things were broken in ubuntu 12.10 besides the search box?
[02:47] <insomniac_lemon> pranav, you could try typing notes in a text file that is synced over Ubuntu One instead
[02:47] <simplew> i see that bumblebee-ui isnt packaged in launchpad which is an app that provides a menu to start all apps with optirun, i have mailed the main maintainer asking why isnt packaged, meanwhile you can edit the menu ad prefix the apps yo use with optirun untill bumblebee-ui isnt packaged
[02:48] <trap24> insomniac_lemon: i just typed then in gmail & sent it to myself :P
[02:49] <insomniac_lemon> trap24, you don't even need to send, just save them as a draft
[02:49] <trap24> insomniac_lemon: hahahaha.. yup!
[02:50] <insomniac_lemon> pepee, how do I change the resolution using xrandr?
[02:51] <insomniac_lemon> pepee, although I don't think it will help, as it is a driver issue. It is at the proper resolution and should fit the screen, but doesn't
[02:53] <simplew> everytime o run dollphin as root it doesnt not run kwrite if i double click in a text file, any hint why?
[02:55] <lahwran> blah
[02:55] <lahwran> guess I'll have to get the alternate installer and use that
[02:55] <bazhang> !alternate | lahwran
[02:56] <WeThePeople> how do i run a install.sh from the terminal
[02:56] <lahwran> it has not, I'm downloading it right now
[02:56] <lahwran> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04.1-alternate-amd64.iso
[02:56] <bazhang> lahwran, for 12.10 it has
[02:56] <somsip> WeThePeople: ./install.sh, but make sure it is chmod +x first
[02:56] <lahwran> non-lts releases don't exist
[02:57] <lahwran> particularly when they have spyware installed by default
[02:57] <WeThePeople> somsip, thanks
[02:57] <bazhang> simplew, there is no reason to run dolphin as root; what are you trying to do. please explain clearly
[02:57] <bjrohan>  I installed a static ffmpeg build. I am trying to do a desktop record, and I get an error message when I paste a command from a wiki page saying how to do it without audio, here is my command and output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1317005/
[02:57] <bjrohan> I installed a static ffmpeg because what I had for whatever reason was failing miserably
[02:57] <bazhang> lahwran, thats nonsense , there is no spyware
[02:57] <lahwran> bazhang: the amazon search thingy is as spyware as spyware gets
[02:58] <lahwran> recording personal stuff I type into a private search box for advertising networks to use
[02:58] <bazhang> lahwran, then remove it. stop repeating that here
[02:58] <bazhang> !adlens | lahwran
[02:58] <w1ck3dpl46u3> #opmexico
[03:02] <cyrano_> I'm trying to setup the ubuntu font in bold in appearance yet I save it, it is set as ubuntu medium any sugestions. I am using 12.10 with MATE 1.4.0
[03:02] <insomniac_lemon> I guess I have to reinstall natty again then :(
[03:03] <cfhowlett> insomniac_lemon: natty is end of life
[03:03] <xangua> cyrano_: mate is not supported here
[03:04] <hungre> help please! how can i disable home from desktop on lubuntu?
[03:05] <ethhunt> hungre google my frienf.
[03:06] <ethhunt> friend *
[03:06] <ethhunt> <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:06] <FloodBot1> ethhunt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:06] <ethhunt> http://www.howtogeek.com/116179/how-to-disable-home-folder-encryption-after-installing-ubuntu/
[03:07] <lahwran> ethhunt: be nice
[03:07] <lahwran> ethhunt: support channels are about supporting people :)
[03:07] <jvalentin> virtualhost help please: I setup a file for my local site in /etc/apache2/sites-available/, added a ServerName, DocumentRoot and Directory info, added the site to the hosts file and it loads properly, but when I click and page under that site, I get a 404 error
[03:08] <simplew> bazhang: well you may have not, but i prefer
[03:09] <ethhunt> i did, i made it easier for him. I searched for him and provided the link.
[03:09] <hungre> ethhunt: after i done install lubuntu the desktop was clean, but my friend play with my pc and i find that home folder on the my desktop
[03:09] <ethhunt> thats support.
[03:09] <ethhunt> lol.
[03:09] <jvalentin> this issue I have is with a drupal site, but I don't know if that should matter
[03:09] <simplew> bazhang: you may want to comment https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=309233
[03:10] <alexPH> hi
[03:10] <Chamunks> I installed xbmc onto a 12.10 instance and now that its set to boot directly into XBMC instead of ubiquity
[03:10] <Chamunks> it just goes straight to black screen
[03:11] <ethhunt> hungre try this instead see if this helps "http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CD0QFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Flinux.bigresource.com%2FUbuntu-remove-home-folder-from-desktop--2p5FpshSE.html&ei=FEWPUNzgIKXy2QXohIGICA&usg=AFQjCNF9jumX09RWg9637ej0YQtANe-t5Q"
[03:11] <hungre> xangua:  please help me friend, u help me before :)
[03:11] <bjrohan> Can someone give me pointers/help on recording my desktop with audio using ffmpeg commandline into mpeg-4? Thanks.
[03:12] <jvalentin> can anyone assist with my virtualhost (or rewrite maybe) issue, please?
[03:12] <xangua> !behelpful | ethhunt
[03:12] <xangua> hungre: i've never tried lxde, tried asking in #lubuntu ¿
[03:12] <Chamunks> Anyone know how to revert my gdm back to the default ubuntu gdm?
[03:12] <Chamunks> its booting into a black screen and im toast.
[03:13] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|Chamunks:
[03:13] <ethhunt> smh, these are links i have saved from my book marks how is that a joke? im not joking. its easier then typing all of the required information. just read the link.
[03:14] <ethhunt> to sensitive fake ass moderator and fake ass want to be smart people trip me out.
[03:14] <Chamunks> cfhowlett, thanks alot.
[03:14] <jvalentin> am I in the wrong room for ubuntu virtualhost setup help for?
[03:14] <hungre> xangua:  i install lxde coz i have a problem with ubuntu when i try to login and after i put the password and then login the screen monitor switch off then swith on quickly can u help me plz
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> hungre, Try the dconf option on this page. http://askubuntu.com/questions/145731/problems-with-icons-in-lubuntu
[03:15] <cfhowlett> Chamunks: np
[03:15] <Main> Hey guys, I have a question regarding some driver issues
[03:15] <gisli> anyone else having trouble connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[03:15] <Main> I have a Inspiron B120 Laptop that i have Ubuntu( Yes i understand its a horrible Laptop) But having issues, with the wifi drivers.
[03:15] <lado> hi
[03:16] <hungre> wilee-nilee:  i want to disable home from desktop not to add
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> hungre, L I would install dconf and see if the home is ticked on, but you may not.
[03:19] <hungre> wilee-nilee:  ok tell me how to install it plz?
[03:19] <StormTwo> thank you guys now i can upgrade my ubuntu!
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> hungre, Its in this link. http://askubuntu.com/questions/145731/problems-with-icons-in-lubuntu
[03:21] <StormTwo> hungre, what is your problem?
[03:21] <lyonpack> anyone have any idea with the B120 drivers?
[03:22] <aghosh> Hi , is there any solution available for the auto logout problem ? I am using 12.04
[03:22] <StormTwo> welcome lyonpack
[03:22] <lyonpack> thank you.
[03:23] <StormTwo> your welcome
[03:23] <lyonpack> storm maybe you will be able to help me with my problem
[03:23] <StormTwo> what problem lyon?
[03:23] <StormTwo> glad if i can help lyon
[03:24] <lyonpack> i have the Inspiron B120
[03:24] <lyonpack> I am in current need of the Wlan Drivers
[03:24] <StormTwo> yes,it is dell right?
[03:25] <lyonpack> Broadcom chipset
[03:25] <lyonpack> yes it is
[03:25] <cfhowlett> !broadcom
[03:25] <hungre> StormTwo:  i have installed lxde, and then desktop was empty nothing appears there, my friend play now on my desktop and the home folder completely appears on the desktop,how cn i disable all plz
[03:25] <StormTwo> ubottu thanks for helping
[03:26] <StormTwo> hungre why do you want to disable it all?
[03:27] <hungre> StormTwo:  if i download anything to home folder it appears on the desktop screen
[03:27] <StormTwo> hungre ubottu lyonpack talk to you later ok?
[03:27] <lyonpack> one more question. where can i locate the drivers needed for B120
[03:28] <hungre> StormTwo:  lol i have hours waiting
[03:29] <CrypticByte> I'm using Kopete and I can't seem to get facebook to connect but it connects fine with Pidgin anyone else experiencing this?
[03:31] <Captain_Claw> Ubuntu with gnome-shell #winning
[03:37] <aghosh> ubuntu 12.04 - auto logout problem
[03:38] <aghosh> any help please ?
[03:39] <blackshirt> aghosh, even on text/cli mode?
[03:39] <pepee> aghosh, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[03:42] <jvalentin> oh well, guess I'll have to find answers on setting up a web server and virtual host elsewhere...g'nite
[03:43] <pepee> jvalentin, try ##linux or #apache
[03:43] <aghosh> yes
[03:43] <cowsquad> can anyone tell me how to install gnome 3.61. on ubuntu 1210
[03:43] <aghosh> blackskirt : not on text/cli mode
[03:44] <aghosh> only on graphical user mode
[03:44] <aeon-ltd> cowsquad: i'm not up to date on gnome ver, but is that new or old?
[03:45] <cowsquad> aeon-ltd yes gnome 3.6.1 it is
[03:45] <aeon-ltd> new or old?
[03:45] <cowsquad> that is the latest
[03:46] <aeon-ltd> cowsquad: then you'll need to find a ppa, if not your only option will probably compiling
[03:46] <cowsquad> god damm it. I dont even know where to find a ppa
[03:47] <trism> cowsquad: we already have some of 3.6.1,w hat are you looking for?
[03:49] <cowsquad> trism, the entire gnome desktop ;) lockscreen and desktop
[03:50] <trism> cowsquad: you need to use gdm to get a working lockscreen with gnome-shell I think (though it might have gnome-screensaver fallback now, I forget)
[03:51] <cowsquad> so, i rather not use gnome then
[03:53] <whomp> when i boot up my computer, it goes straight to windows, instead of allowing me to  choose between windows and ubuntu. how can i fix this?
[03:54] <cfhowlett> !grub|whomp:
[03:54] <cfhowlett> whomp: reinstall grub
[03:54] <FireStorms> Hey I'm looking for a DvD duplication solution oppose to my laptop's slow DvD burner. I'm thinking about buying this burner but how would I find out if it works on Ubuntu 10.04, seller doesn't seem to know http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/22x-External-High-Speed-USB-2-0-DVD-Writer-Burner-NEW-/261109201870?pt=UK_Computing_Drives_Storage_CD_DVD_Drives_ET&hash=item3ccb523bce
[03:59] <Cjdns--user> hello. does anyone know  how to install windows 8 to a hdd with an uefi-ubuntu-partition?
[04:00] <fird0s> hi all
[04:00] <theBIGelectron> Hi all got an issue with trying to getting a Leostick to show up in the Arduino IDE on Ubuntu 12.10, the serial port option under tools is grayed out
[04:03] <grendal_prime> ok sooo there are a lot of things i really like in 12.10 (espicially the enhancements in kvm)  but work requires we use the lts.
[04:03] <grendal_prime> my question is has anyone upgraded from an X.10 to the next lts?
[04:05] <somsip> theBIGelectron: try running the IDE as root. If it's not greyed out when you do that, you need to add your user to the group that allows serial port access
[04:05] <grendal_prime> also is there a keycombination to the desktop switcher?
[04:05] <grendal_prime> sory workspace switcher
[04:05] <trism> grendal_prime: ctrl+alt+arrows
[04:06] <trism> grendal_prime: ctrl+alt+shift+arrows if you want to move a window
[04:06] <L3top> grendal_prime: ctrl + F2 if you want to move to desktop 2
[04:07] <L3top> theBIGelectron: This is really not the channel for that question... but if you find a solution, I personally would like an update.
[04:07] <grendal_prime> ya see i was thinking more like..something i can press to get that spaces to view..like you get when you clik on the unity bar
[04:08] <L3top> grendal_prime: perhaps this will help http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/what-are-unitys-keyboard-and-mouse-shortcuts    I use kde.
[04:09] <grendal_prime> trism,  so if you just click on the workspace switcher on the unity bar..ahh ok thanks
[04:09] <trism> grendal_prime: super+s
[04:09] <grendal_prime> thats it thanks
[04:09] <trism> had to look it up, I use the shortcuts to avoid that thing
[04:10] <grendal_prime> ya super + w shows you your apps on that desktop
[04:10] <grendal_prime> much like gnome 3 does all the time.
[04:10] <grendal_prime> i wish gnome3 had a 2d version
[04:11] <grendal_prime> i really like that interface..it is really easy to figure out.
[04:11] <L3top> !ot | grendal_prime
[04:11] <grendal_prime> its like everything is there..but just peeking around the corner..and you point to it and then it shows you the rest of itself
[04:11] <cowsquad> how to set up lightdm as my default login screen?
[04:12] <square> is there a channel for ubuntu on the nexus 7?
[04:12] <trism> cowsquad: if lightdm is installed: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm;
[04:12] <L3top> cowsquad: I don't know the official way, but I can tell you how to do it
[04:12] <L3top> thanks trism...
[04:13]  * L3top just echoes over /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[04:13] <cowsquad> god dam it trism, how do you know so much :)
[04:13] <trism> that's really all the command does, just gives you a menu to choose
[04:13] <cowsquad> trism, yeap Ive already chosen lightdm
[04:14] <cowsquad> trism, I didnt like gnome shell :-P
[04:20] <skunk> anyone upgrade to 12.10??
[04:21] <Gerowen> Question for the Ubuntu lords here.  I haven't used Ubuntu at all in a year or two because of poor performance on my old laptop after Unity.  I want to install it on a second laptop I've gotten, but after downloading the 32 bit ISO image I see that it is just barely over the 700 MB capacity of the CDs I have.  I don't have any DVDs and having recently moved can't find any of my thumb drives.  What would be the easiest way to get
[04:21] <Gerowen>  12.10 installed?
[04:21] <h00k> skunk: can you ask a more specific question?
[04:21] <limpc> i upgraded to 12.10
[04:21] <limpc> then had HD problems so i installed 12.10 clean. but now i cant get AMD's proprietary ATI drivers to work
[04:21] <limpc> tried everything.  i can only use the "opensource" version which sucks
[04:22] <skunk> was that intel video driver bug fixed?? I can send the slashdot article if you like
[04:22] <limpc> anyone else have problems with ati drivers in 12.10?  my card is a Radeon HD 6700
[04:23] <skunk> isn't the Radeon HD 6700 on the iMac?? Do you have an imac?
[04:23] <limpc> no. custom pc
[04:23] <h00k> skunk: which bug are you referring to?
[04:23] <skunk> nook.. ill show you
[04:24] <skunk> nook, http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/09/20/1245240/stubborn-intel-graphics-bug-haunts-ubuntu-1204
[04:24] <skunk> h00k.. sorry lol
[04:25] <skunk> im still using 10.04
[04:25] <skunk> work fine
[04:25] <h00k> skunk: according to that bug report, it looks like it was fixed in all versions it was reported in, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/966744
[04:27] <skunk> YEAH BABY YEAH!
[04:27] <skunk> thanks h00k i wasn't expecting to get an answer! but you got it :)
[04:28] <h00k> skunk: and (as you see) it looks like it's fixed in 12.10 as well :)
[04:30] <theBIGelectron> Cool thanks somip
[04:33] <PoorCollegeGuy> hey quick question, my search bar in software center has gone missing
[04:33] <PoorCollegeGuy> anyone know why that might be?
[04:33] <akis> hi all. i am considering to install wine because i have to run a windows application. is it possible to run this application via wine only as user so that it wan't affect all the system or the installation of this *.exe file via wine wants root's privileges and it will be intalled to my root system?
[04:34] <Gerowen> If I installed 12.04 and then just did an upgrade to 12.10, without making any changes to the out-of-the-box state of 12.04, would i notice any huge differences?
[04:34] <Gerowen> Because I don't have any DVDs or thumb drives around to do a clean install of 12.10
[04:34] <Gerowen> Just CDs
[04:35] <h00k> Gerowen: new versions of stuffs like Unity, you'd notice
[04:36] <Gerowen> That wouldn't come in with an "upgrade" to 12.10 from an installed 12.04?
[04:36] <h00k> Gerowen: sure it would, it should be a pretty safe process, too.
[04:36] <h00k> Gerowen: in regards to 'would you notice from an upgraded system to a fresh install of 12.10' no
[04:37] <kev^> hi all. quick question... is there any pros or cons to using the closed-source ati driver? thinking about installing it
[04:38] <Gerowen> kev^: On my Toshiba I get much better performance from the proprietary one in Debian, and in older versions of Ubuntu, but for some reason I have a high pitched squeal from somewhere inside the laptop when I unplug the power cord if I use the proprietary driver.
[04:39] <akis> i found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine and i think that *.exe files they will be installed in /user only. is that right?
[04:39] <Gerowen> But that has happened across multiple distros
[04:40] <nydel> is there a command to cd to the directory of a file / symbolic link
[04:41] <Gerowen> nydel: So the situation is, you know the exact filename of a file, but you want to CD to the folder it's in without specifying the whole directory?
[04:41] <jim29> Hi. Where would I find the configuration program for the windows manager in Ubuntu 12.10...I'd like to change my focus policy to "focus follows mouse".
[04:42] <Gerowen> h00k: Yay found a thumb drive!  Now I just gotta remember the name of the program for Debian that lets me put an ISO on a thumbstick...
[04:43] <nydel> Gerowen: yes. you can cd into a symbolic link of a folder & do "pwd -P" to see where it really is -- but i wanna go like " cd `pwd -P sldir` "
[04:43] <nydel> Gerowen: but pwd doesn't take an argument like that i don't think -- do you see what i mean though?
[04:43] <h00k> Gerowen: are you talking about unetbootin?
[04:43] <Gerowen> h00k: That's the one
[04:43] <h00k> Gerowen: ta-da!
[04:43] <Gerowen> nydel: Sounds like something you could pipe into the command, or use grep to accomplish, not an expert on those commands though
[04:44] <nydel> Gerowen: i wanna not use any regexp. or any exp. hah. i'm just being difficult, thanks for the idea i'll do that
[04:45] <nydel> Gerowen: can i ask, do you understand this command:  "./script.sh 1>/dev/null 2>&1"
[04:46] <sere> anyone know how i would start the gnome policy kit in the flux
[04:46] <Gerowen> nydel: Vaguely, not enough to be of any assistance, I could take a S.W.A.G, but that's all it'd be (S.W.A.G=Scientific Wild Ass Guess)
[04:48] <Phase> nydel: pwd -P <name of a symlink> just provides the directory it's in, at least for me.. what were you trying to do?
[04:48] <rraj> Hi. Im looking for source code of nm. Im not able to find the package name. Any help please?
[04:48] <nydel> Gerowen: lol what it does is route the output of the commmand ./shell.sh to /dev/null and also any errors (that is the 2) to /dev/null -- i just don't understand /why/ -- that is, i would't have written it, i had to look it up & find someone had written it in a forum. it looks really odd to me & i don't know what to ask about or look up
[04:49] <aeon-ltd> rraj: nm-applet?
[04:49] <nydel> Phase: for me, pwd -P name-of-sym-link provides the location of the symbolic link, not the location to which it points
[04:49] <nydel> Phase: do you say that for you it prints the location?
[04:50] <rraj> aeon-ltd:  Nope. This 'nm' is a tool to read object files
[04:51] <Phase> nydel: Let's say I have a symlink '/home/phase/test' pointing to the directory '/home/phase/something/random', `pwd -P test` gives me /home/phase
[04:51] <blargg> Any way to bring all of an app's windows to the front in Ubuntu 12, as in OS X when you click on the app's icon in the dock?
[04:51] <blargg> I don't want them scaled down, just to all be brought to the front layer in a single event
[04:51] <kev^> wow Gerowen... that 'high pitched squeal' is also happening to me with proprietary drivers, haha. what are the odds
[04:52] <kev^> i think it's the fan
[04:52] <nydel> Phase: i want it to give me /home/phase/something/random/ -- maybe i could go "cd `pwd test` && pwd -P" ??
[04:52] <DaemonicApathy> rraj, are you looking for the .gz file listed at the top of http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man1/nm.1.html ?
[04:52] <Phase> nydel: Try `ls -lh test`
[04:53] <jennie> any tool to diagnose HDD for error in linux ?
[04:53] <nydel> Phase: nevermind hah i was thinking pwd -p would return where it goes. that's the whole problem. disregard the last thing i said lol
[04:53] <jennie> in ubuntu
[04:53] <Phase> nydel: It's ok :)
[04:53] <rraj> DaemonicApathy:  Yes. Thanks. Can you tell me how to find a package name of a command in ubuntu?
[04:54] <DaemonicApathy> No idea, rraj.
[04:54] <nydel> Phase: i think if i use ls i have to use grep. -lh gives me something as useful as ls -l.
[04:54] <rraj> Its okay. Anyways, Thanks a lot. :)
[04:54] <nydel> Phase: there /has/ to be a way to do this without grep
[04:54] <Phase> nydel: You would need to yeah, but I'm not sure if there is.. might I ask why you want to avoid grep?
[04:55] <nydel> Phase: because i think the tool that i would use that lets me avoid grep is a tool i want to know about & read the manual pages related
[04:55] <Phase> nydel: Ah
[04:56] <wols> nydel: have yu checked "find"?
[04:56] <nydel> Phase: let's change the problem slightly.  say i wanna do "which bash" & cd into the directory
[04:56] <Jordan_U> nydel: readlink -f
[04:56] <nydel> wols: i bet you can do it with find. do you know how or have a suggestion?
[04:56] <sere> how do i start gnomes policy kit in fluxbox
[04:56] <nydel> Jordan_U: THANKYOU. one more thing though. how now do i cd into the directory of that file?
[04:57] <nydel> Jordan_U: like, if i wanted to do "which bash" & automatically go to that directory
[04:57] <beatrice> ! ciao
[04:57] <nydel> ( does cd have an argument maybe? )
[04:57] <Phase> nydel: cd $(readlink -f test)
[04:58] <nydel> Phase that tells me [readlink result] isn't a directory
[04:58] <Phase> works for me, readlink -f <symlink> prints just the path
[04:59] <nydel> now basically i just want to go "cd [-something here?] /path/to/file/file.c" & be in /path/to/file/
[04:59] <DaemonicApathy> nydel: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/59895/can-a-bash-script-tell-what-directory-its-stored-in
[05:00] <DaemonicApathy> May not answer your question entirely, but something similar got me started handling directories like that.
[05:01] <nydel> DaemonicApathy: thank you - i had a feeling the answer to this "question" was going to lead me to a bunch of stuff not just one thing. this is exactly what i was looking for.
[05:01] <nydel> thanks everyone very kindly.
[05:01] <DaemonicApathy> Excellent.
[05:01] <Phase> nydel: Glad you found your solution
[05:02] <nydel> Phase: you should check out the link, i think DaemonicApathy must have quite a handle on this odd little alley of the bash scripting villa
[05:02] <Phase> nydel: yep, I'm reading it now
[05:02] <nydel> :)
[05:03] <malkauns> why does the compiz wallpaper cycling plugin not work for me anymore?
[05:03] <DaemonicApathy> Can you elaborate, malkauns?
[05:04] <aata> i just installed ubuntu 12.10 on a machine that already had windows 7. did not overwrite the mbr with grub, rather kept the windows bootloader and used easybcd to add the ubuntu entry to it. all is good, expect when i boot into ubuntu, i get a grub command prompt. i know the sequence of commands to get it to boot up, but how do i make this happen everytime on startup?
[05:05] <wols> aata: you get a grub error message too
[05:05] <malkauns> DaemonicApathy, its supposed to cycle through your list of wallpapers, say every 10 minutes or so but for me the wallpaper does not change at all
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> aata, Have you run update-grub in ubuntu
[05:06] <DaemonicApathy> malkauns: Assuming you have the 'Cycle Wallpapers' box checked, do you have more than one wallpaper in the list?
[05:06] <aata> wilee-nilee: just update-grub? dont need to specify anything?
[05:06] <malkauns> DaemonicApathy, yes ofcourse :)
[05:06] <aata> wols: no error message - just a prompt
[05:07] <wols> then run update-grub as wilee-nilee suggested and make sure you have a /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> aata, Thats what I would try first I'm not sure what eacybcd is reading. Did you put grub in the ubuntu partition on the install?
[05:07] <aata> wilee-nilee:  nope its on /boot
[05:08] <DaemonicApathy> Looks like a bug in 12.10, malkauns: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1020830
[05:08] <wilee-nilee> aata, A boot partition.?
[05:08] <malkauns> i'm not using 12.10 tho :P i'm using 12.04
[05:08] <DaemonicApathy> malkauns: Oh, sorry. Misread someone else's line as yours.
[05:09] <malkauns> DaemonicApathy, and that bug is about compiling the plugin
[05:09] <aata> i think it has something to do with grub not knowing which partition to look for boot files in... if i do root (hd0,4) at the prompt that switches to /boot. by default if you do ls at the grub prompt it lists teh contents of the windows drive
[05:09] <DaemonicApathy> I was confused too. It works fine for me.
[05:09] <aata> wilee-nilee: ^^
[05:10] <DaemonicApathy> malkauns: Not being an expert on this one, and with nobody else stepping up yet, all I can suggest is disabling the plugin, and then re-enabling it, making sure the settings are correct.
[05:10] <wilee-nilee> aata, This script is quite helpful in these situations you can run it and look at it and or post the text in a pastebin. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[05:11] <malkauns> DaemonicApathy, tried that, thx anyway
[05:11] <Rajvi> Greetings Everyone, Fresh 12.04 installation: 1.Not able to create shortcuts on desktop. 2. How to disable apport ( damn annoying ) & how to fall back to Gnome   any version without downloading the packages, ie is the Gnome shell is present already somewhere.
[05:12] <aata> wilee-nilee: update grub didnt work yup. will try the script
[05:14]  * bitchaddict removes panties and craps into #linux
[05:15] <bitchaddict> and uses ubumtu to wipe ass
[05:15] <aeon-ltd> ...
[05:15] <Rajvi> Can I expect some help  :(
[05:16] <bitchaddict> can u help me to wipe my ass
[05:16] <bitchaddict> i bumtoo
[05:16] <nydel> that's not appropriate language
[05:17] <Rajvi> What's happening in here!!
[05:17] <nydel> please quit that bitchaddict
[05:17] <wols> !patience | Rajvi
[05:17] <bitchaddict> oh yeah and who r u to decide wats appropriate and wats not
[05:17] <nydel> Rajvi: just a moment, i'll look over your support request now
[05:17] <Rajvi> nydel: Thanks!
[05:18] <nydel> bitchaddict: i'm one person. so are you. let's both vote on whether you were being appropriate. okay? just come on now, friend. let's have a civil environment :)
[05:18] <nydel> bitchaddict: off-color language & shit is fine here-and-there but don't be a fag about it :)
[05:18]  * bitchaddict farts and pukes all over nydel
[05:19] <Malimbar> woh, what trollish behavior did I walk into
[05:19] <bitchaddict> you newfagg nyd
[05:19] <nydel> Malimbar: we were just stopping that.
[05:19] <nydel> sorry all
[05:19] <wols> nydel: no. you were simply feeding trolls. stop that
[05:19] <nydel> Rajvi: back to your request..
[05:19] <Malimbar> mmm, popcorn is tasty
[05:20] <nydel> wols: my mistake
[05:20] <bitchaddict> u newfagg can lick in between ur daddys ballsac
[05:20] <xangua> !ops | bitchaddict
[05:20] <nydel> Rajvi: you can logout, use the menu at the top right corner of the screen. then when you log back in, you can select your window manager. click your account name then there is a circle in the upper right corner of the box. you can select gnome there.
[05:21] <Rajvi> Everyone: Don't respond to bitchaddict
[05:21] <aata> wilee-nilee: pastebin.com/25X95RTn
[05:21] <bitchaddict> hahaa
[05:21] <Rajvi> nydel: Gnome is not available as a choice during login!!
[05:21] <malkauns> anybody else experience regular compiz/unity crashes?
[05:21] <nydel> Rajvi: okay we can go ahead and install it then, are you interested in doing that?
[05:22] <aata> wilee-nilee: see how sda5 has the grub on it and is /boot
[05:22] <Rajvi> Naah, I though so 12.04 might have some sort of Gnome any versions on it.
[05:23] <nydel> Rajvi: we don't support it technically, but i would recommend trying a window manager called cinnamon. it is included with linux mint. it works fine on my 12.10 but, again, we do not support it - canonical wants unity to be /the/ shell for ubuntu.
[05:23] <wols> aata: I'd reinstall grub then
[05:23] <aata> wols: on /boot?
[05:23] <nydel> Rajvi: installing gnome is very very easy with apt-get or aptitude..
[05:23] <Rajvi> I know, I was mostly shocked
[05:23] <xangua> Rajvi: Ubuntu already uses gnome, unity is just a shell for gnome
[05:23] <nydel> Rajvi: you might also be interested in awesomewm
[05:24] <Jordan_U> nydel: For the record, off-color language is *not* fine here-and-there in this channel, especially not homophobic slurs.
[05:24] <wols> aata: any partition. it does not matter
[05:24] <Rajvi> How to disable apport??
[05:24] <wols> aata: tho /boot with ext4 is strange. heck, having /boot is strange
[05:24] <nydel> Jordan_U: you're right, i was trying to handle an ugly situation delicately -- but anywhat, you're right, i mis-spoke.
[05:25] <aata> wols: doing it so that i dont have tio write grub to the mbr - makes updating windows easier supposedly
[05:25] <wols> aata: you are wrong
[05:25] <xangua> Rajvi: you mean this¿ http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/how-to-get-rid-of-internal-system-error.html
[05:25] <wols> aata: in your case you would simply use a single partition for ubuntu
[05:26] <inocentpc> is there a developer in here? :)
[05:26] <nydel> inocentpc: there are developers here.
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> aata, You are missing all the grub needed in the OS to boot IO would from the terminal in ubuntu run sudo apt-get purge grub-pc grub-common then sudo apt-get install grub-pc grub-common  and when asked where to put grub this is the actual bootloader part put it in sda5  then run sudo update-grub and see if easybcd boots that.
[05:26] <BonSequitur> So, I'm setting up Ubuntu on another box, and it seems to be stuck on its first boot.
[05:27] <nydel> Rajvi: http://askubuntu.com/questions/93457/how-do-i-enable-or-disable-apport
[05:27] <Rajvi> yup
[05:27] <nydel> Rajvi: i think that will tell you how to disable apport completely, if that's what you'd like to do.
[05:27] <BonSequitur> I'm getting "[drm] nouveau 0000:02:00.0: failed to idle channel 3"
[05:27] <BonSequitur> And related errors, repeatedly.
[05:28] <Rajvi> I think i can take care of it
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> aata, Not sure that will fix it really though I would never use a boot partition.
[05:28] <Rajvi> and now not able to cretae shortcuts of desktop
[05:29] <nydel> Rajvi: can you open a terminal, try ctrl-alt-t?
[05:29] <wols> wilee-nilee: what output is this bootinfo script missing that you can say the files don't exist?
[05:29] <Rajvi> I am an average power user
[05:29] <nydel> Rajvi: does "ps -ef | grep nautilus" return more than one process?
[05:31] <Rajvi> nydel: yes, it returns more than one process
[05:31] <nydel> Rajvi: close all open file managers then do "sudo killall nautilus"
[05:31] <BonSequitur> And yeap, rebooting reproduces the problem.
[05:31] <nydel> Rajvi: after that, try to right-click the desktop & create a shortcut.
[05:32] <Rajvi> No i can't
[05:32] <Rajvi> I cannot even drag the icons from dash to desktop
[05:32] <pclov3r> Quck qustion if somebdoy is willing to help. What does /etc/issue output on 12.10
[05:33] <pclov3r> Don't have ubuntu installed but writing a script
[05:33] <BonSequitur> Well, I guess I'll delete the partition and try with the LTR version.
[05:33] <BonSequitur> Since the new one's video drivers just barfed so utterly the system won't even boot for the first time.
[05:33] <BonSequitur> Truly, it is the year of the Linux desktop.
[05:33] <nydel> Rajvi: when you right click the desktop, do you get a pop-up menu?
[05:34] <Rajvi> yes
[05:34] <Rajvi> but there is no option to create shortcut
[05:35] <nydel> Rajvi: it should say "create launcher"
[05:35] <Rajvi> sorry friend, remember I m on Unity
[05:36] <aata> wols: does the windows 7 boot loader "call" grub when i select the ubuntu partition?
[05:36] <hallofick> o/
[05:36] <nydel> Rajvi: open a file manager. navigate to ~/Desktop/
[05:36] <Rajvi> Okies
[05:36] <nydel> Rajvi: then try to create a shortcut inside the file manager?
[05:37] <albho_> hi friends i am unable to connect andriod phone via bluetooth over serial port to ubuntu machine? somebody please guide me how to do ?
[05:37] <nydel> albho_: to access the filesystem on your android?
[05:38] <wols> aata: it loads the first sector of the partition you specify, that's all it does
[05:38] <albho_> not so to transfer the gps from my phone to my ubuntu machine
[05:38] <wols> aata: but in your case the /boot partition is totally utterlly unneeded
[05:39] <Rajvi> nydel: I hate to disappoint u
[05:39] <aata> wols: so i should install grub on the ubuntu partition?
 not so to transfer the gps from my phone to my ubuntu machine
[05:40] <wols> aata: I just told before you it doesn't matter. do you even read?
[05:40] <Rajvi> But from ~/Desktop using  a file manager, I right click on the white space. no optiosn to create shortcut/launcher!!
[05:40] <nydel> create an empty document, Rajvi
[05:41] <Rajvi> k
[05:41] <nydel> call it "test" & close the file manager
[05:41] <nydel> open a terminal & "nano test"
[05:41] <Rajvi> i did, it work
[05:41] <nydel> (after cd Desktop)
[05:41] <Rajvi> hang oin
[05:42] <Rajvi> yes
[05:42] <nydel> Rajvi: in nano, type this: "#!/bin/bash" (newline) "gnome-terminal &" then press ctrl-x & "yes" to save
[05:42] <ecret> i had this issue long ago , I would login and just see:      $         I can't use shell features like tab, colours, etc..   I recall some command to use to get it after logging in
[05:43] <nydel> Rajvi: tell me when you're done with that
[05:43] <Rajvi> k
[05:43] <nydel> Rajvi: now in the terminal do "chmod 755 test" in the Desktop directory
[05:43] <aata> wols: i did read but the reason i chose to have a /boot was so that i dont overwrite the mbr. is there a way to specify to grub what partition it can find the kernel image, initrd etc on so that it looks there every time its loaded?
[05:43] <nydel> Rajvi: after that, double-click the icon on the desktop
[05:44] <nydel> Rajvi: tell me whether it opens a terminal window or if something else happens
[05:44] <Rajvi> Could u write a .sh :(
[05:46] <wols> aata: you never tell grub where to find it, it finds it on its own. it's always under /boot, no matter on which partition /boot is. finding the kernel is another totally irrelevant thing
[05:46] <wols> aata: and what you read there is totally utterly bogus
[05:46] <ecret> I can't even use tab in shell.  What was the command to get these features? All  I see is :    '$ '
[05:49] <nydel> Rajvi: did that work?
[05:50] <Rajvi> nydel: The test file is not a executable file \
[05:50] <Rajvi> the test file is NOW a executable file
[05:51] <Rajvi> But, still not able to create shgortcuts
[05:53] <konza> Rajvi, install gnome 3
[05:53] <Rajvi> Konza: How
[05:53] <konza> Rajvi, This link will help you http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-classic-gnome-desktop-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise.html
[05:54] <Gerowen> Question, I'm watching Ubuntu 12.10 install on this other laptop I have.  Why is there an Amazon icon in the panel?  Please tell me Ubuntu isn't leaning toward the route of pre-installed Windows PCs where, in 2 versions, I'll spend 2 hours removing all the crapware that came on it.
[05:54] <bazhang> !adlens | Gerowen
[05:55] <Gerowen> Yay for ubottu!
[05:55] <bazhang> Gerowen, remove the single package
[05:57] <Gerowen> I don't mind relevant search suggestions, but I saw what appears to be a corporate sponsored piece of software on an "out-of-the-box" linux distro, and my heart raced a little
[05:57] <Gerowen> appeard*
[05:57] <Gerowen> appeared* <---Spelling
[05:57] <nydel> Rajvi: you have to do "chmod 755 test" in terminal
[05:57] <nydel> Rajvi: otherwise it will give you "not executable" error
[05:57] <nydel> Rajvi: did you get that?
[05:58] <Rajvi> yes
[05:59] <Rajvi> the "TesT file is now a executable file
[05:59] <Rajvi> I run it - nothing hapenned
[05:59] <rexwin_> what does loadkeys command so and what is the typical duration this command takes to complete? it is running in my system for more than 5 min.
[05:59] <rexwin_> do*
[06:01] <Phase> rexwin_: http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_loadkeys.htm
[06:01] <rolling> !ops rolling is back
[06:01] <wols> rolling: it changes the keyboard map for your console. it should return instantly
[06:02] <wols> rexwin_: ^^
[06:02] <wols> rexwin_: it changes the keyboard map for your console. it should return instantly
[06:02] <wols> rexwin_: how did you run the command?
[06:03] <rexwin_> just "loadkey" without quotes and it is about more than 5 min since i have run the command.
[06:03] <wols> that's why. press ctrl+c
[06:04] <rexwin_> the special character above numbers are not working. it is a virtual ubuntu machine.
[06:04] <rexwin_> "loadkeys"
[06:04] <wols> rexwin_: it needs a filename as an argument
[06:08] <StormTwo> im back
[06:08] <rexwin_> i have used this command in other distro and it loads US keymap when run without arguments.
[06:08] <StormTwo> i need answer broo
[06:09] <StormTwo> rexwin_ what command?
[06:13] <wols> rexwin_: it never did
[06:13] <StormTwo> anyone here?
[06:14] <rexwin_> loadkeys
[06:14] <wols> !gq | StormTwo
[06:20] <StormTwo> ubottu, okay. im sorry, i wont do it again, please dont banned me
[06:22] <angel2979> Hello, I would like to know if it possible to disable commercial suggestions on Ubuntu?
[06:22] <StormTwo> ubottu ok :)
[06:22] <bazhang> !adlens | angel2979
[06:22] <bazhang> StormTwo, did you have an actual support question?
[06:23] <bazhang> StormTwo, this is a support channel only ; random chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[06:23] <alusion_> Is LightWorks for ubuntu released yet
[06:24] <bazhang> alusion_, apt-cache search lightworks
[06:24] <Gerowen> So just got 12.10 installed on this laptop, getting all my personal settings done up, and I must say, on a lower end system, this new version of Unity and Ubuntu is proving to be much more responsive than I remember it being at first.
[06:24] <Gerowen> Very user friendly and easy to get up and running with all my online accounts.
[06:24] <alusion_> interesting command, thanks bazhang
[06:25] <StormTwo> yes bazhang
[06:25] <StormTwo> my 12.10 ubuntu doenst work
[06:25] <StormTwo> *doesnt
[06:25] <aeon-ltd> StormTwo: more details
[06:26] <penguinman> StormTwo: more specific please :)
[06:26] <StormTwo> it crashes every start up, so then i have to change back into 10.10
[06:26] <aiFrantz> *ehem* quick question : I have netbook with Intel Atom / Intel GMA 3150. Resolution in Windows can achieve 1024x600 (stable and sharp) but much lower in Ubuntu
[06:26] <penguinman> StormTwo: did you try to hard update from 10.10?
[06:27] <StormTwo> yes penguinman
[06:27]  * nydel is away: msg-me-if-you-like
[06:27] <penguinman> StormTwo: that's a pretty massive jump in distros, my suggestion would be a fresh install
[06:27] <aeon-ltd> aiFrantz: have you installed the drivers?
[06:27] <mortal> I had to upgrade from precise to get quantal working on my eee pc
[06:27] <penguinman> backup your /home and just do a clean install.
[06:28] <mortal> fresh install xorg did not work
[06:28] <aiFrantz> do we need extra drivers? I see nothing inside that jockey-gtk except for broadcom, aeon-ltd
[06:28] <StormTwo> penguinman what is fresh install? sorry im new at this
[06:28] <Gerowen> Random question about 12.10, I'm using XChat to do IRC, when I close it I hit "minimize to tray", however in Unity there is no Gnome tray, but the application is still running, how do I regain control of applications that would normally hide in the Gnome system tray?
[06:28] <penguinman> StormTwo: install from CD/USB
[06:28] <Gerowen> I'm kind of new to Unity
[06:29] <penguinman> StormTwo: just like if it wasn't installed at all previously
[06:29] <StormTwo> penguinman: thank you br
[06:30] <penguinman> StormTwo: if you want to preserve your settings, files, etc back up your /home directory first, then just restore that folder. should save any settings that are still applicable. though you will have to reinstall all your non-default applications.
[06:32] <aiFrantz> aeon-ltd: do we need extra drivers? I see nothing inside that jockey-gtk except for broadcom
[06:32] <StormTwo> penguinman: still wont work
[06:32] <penguinman> StormTwo: as in it won't boot the live CD?
[06:32] <xangua> Gerowen: you need xchat-indicator to show in the message incidator (envelope) ; i don't know if the plugin supports the new ondemand behavior
[06:34] <aeon-ltd> aiFrantz: if you already have the intel drivers installed then i have no idea
[06:35] <aiFrantz> aeon-ltd: okay then. I'll study about it again.
[06:35] <wols> aiFrantz: check your Xorg.0.log what driver it uses, what resolutions it can use
[06:36] <charleyfoxtrot> anyone know there is a performance difference between ubuntu studio and ubuntu xfce ? Does the real-time kernel affect performance/stability?
[06:36] <aiFrantz> wols: thanks. where can I find the log, or do I need to type few commands in the terminal ?
[06:36] <charleyfoxtrot> xubuntu and ubuntu studio i mean
[06:40] <wols> aiFrantz: /var/log
[06:40] <Gerowen> xangua: Thanks for that.  After installing the Google Play Music Manager, I see that it does function properly in adding an icon to the top panel, XChat seems to be the only problem app so far.
[06:41] <aiFrantz> wols : thanks. I'll look the log. thanks again ~
[06:43] <square> is anyone here using ubuntu on the nexus 7?
[06:48] <teto2005> Guys hi there
[06:48] <teto2005> Have aquestion
[06:49] <hateball> !ask
[06:49] <mats> yes
[06:49] <mats> maybe i can help
[06:50] <teto2005> Oh thanks I thought people are idle..
[06:50] <teto2005> Anyway
[06:50] <teto2005> I have Dell inspiron 1525
[06:51] <teto2005> When I install BT based on ubuntu the wireless is not working..
[06:51] <teto2005> Otherwise when I install ubuntu it works  with externalUSB card
[06:51] <teto2005> Why?
[06:54] <hkerl> .
[06:54] <jim29> Where do I find the configuration program for the window manager in Ubuntu 12.10? I'd like to change the focus policy from "click to focus" to "focus follows mouse".
[06:54] <purvesh> I had booted from my usb bootable ubuntu 12.04 & 12.10 and copy & pasted some data to my laptop's windows drive, but when i rebooted to windows that content is not showing (or deleted automatically) even i had tried booting from both version.
[06:55] <fairuz_> When I click on the unmounted partition on the left side. It failed to mount. It tried to mount to /media/fairuz/uuid-here instead of /media/uuid-here
[06:55] <fairuz_> Any pointers?
[06:56] <rihen> hello can anyone help me install gnome 3.6 with backward porting
[06:56] <rihen> ?
[07:08] <ivgenij> hello, please to ubuntu-ru community server settings
[07:12] <hateball> !ru | ivgenij
[07:13] <xangua> rihen: ubuntu 12.10 already uses gnome 3.6
[07:14] <rihen> i am running 12.04 lts with gnome 3.4 and want upgrade
[07:14] <rihen> i have completely removed unity from ubuntu 12.04
[07:15] <ivgenij> 13:14 -!- #ubuntu-ru Cannot send to channel
[07:16] <blackshirt> rihen, thats great
[07:17] <rihen> blackshirt, how do i go for gnome 3.6
[07:18] <blackshirt> rihen, was there available in repository for 3.6 version?
[07:18] <laite> ivgenij: (I'm not sure about politics in #ubuntu-ru, but) you propably need to register your nick: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering
[07:18] <rihen> blackshirt, no
[07:19] <blackshirt> rihen, i think maybe better you waiting for it
[07:19] <rihen> yes
[07:19] <rihen> :)
[07:21] <blackshirt> yes, actually you can do upgrade with compile them ... But it was tricky a hard :d
[07:22] <aiFrantz> rihen : I've lookup inside the packages.ubuntu.com and the latest available gnome package is 3.4 only for Precise. Sorry then, you've to compile for yourself or search for PPA
[07:24] <xangua> (01:17:15) rihen: blackshirt, how do i go for gnome 3.6 - upgrade to ubuntu 12.10
[07:24] <aiFrantz> rihen : if you wanna try the PPA, you can use this (well... I think) http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/gnome-36-released-see-whats-new.html
[07:25] <rihen> xangua,  terminal<Alt+t>,sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[07:25] <rihen> ok thanks aiFrantz
[07:26] <aiFrantz> rihen : no prob :)
[07:26] <rihen> also i have seen a ubuntu-gnome mix package
[07:26] <rihen> what is it that guys
[07:27] <laite> rihen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10 ?
[07:28] <timfrost> I was running ubuntu 12.04 with classic interface.  Automount made USB devices available under /media with label or UUID (/media/Elements or /media/1234-FECD or the like). After upgrade to 12.10, the Elements disk isn't auto-mounted and I get an error dialog box tiled "Unable to mount Elements" with text 'Adding read ACL for UID 1000 to /media/tim failed: Operation not supported' when I use "places" to access it.  Any suggestions?
[07:32] <aiFrantz> timfrost : try fdisk -l , does the drive can be seen there?
[07:34] <angel2979> Hello, I am using evolution for managing my emails, recently I've installed the latest Ubuntu version and when I am trying to restore my emails with the restore option its begin the process and than crashed I've tried to use also old backup files that work before and its still the same, any idea?
[07:34] <timfrost>  aiFrantz: shows as /dev/sdc: dev/sdc1            2048<PHONE_NUMBER><PHONE_NUMBER>    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[07:35] <angel2979> So the problem is not in the file (because I tried to use several backup files), I think there is something wrong with the evolution on the new Ubuntu version any idea how to solve this?
[07:38] <aiFrantz> timfrost : I just sent 2 links via 1-to-1 dialogue window.. tell me if you didn't receive it
[07:40] <timfrost> aiFrantz:thanks PM window has opened.  Will investigate
[07:41] <aiFrantz> timfrost : I'll be here in 1 or 2 more hours.. tell me your findings if you're still here during that period :)
[07:46] <Gerowen> So it's been a while, and I've noticed Sun Java is no longer available in the default repos.  I know that if you go to java.com and download it you'll get Java 7, and I know Java 7 was based off the OpenJDK project.  How good is Java 7 actually, is it stable and worth using?
[07:46] <Gerowen> Just from an end-user standpoint mind you, I don't write Java code, I just want to be able to run java applets in Firefox
[07:48] <timfrost> aiFrantz: as I just said in PM, creating the directory /media/tim and setting ownership to my userid of tim has worked for the Elements disk.Testing with a smaller USB key also works.  Missed that change in the release notes.  Thanks for the pointer
[07:49] <aiFrantz> timfrost : glad you get it worked then...
[07:50] <BlackWeb> Having a slight problem with 12.04 if anyone could help me out, Which trying to change the login screen and I've used Ubuntu Tweak to change it before, but for some reason it doesnt work anymore to where, with ubuntuTweak then its selected to use the desired wallpaper, but its using another one instead of a satellite and the earth? any ideas? The Permissions are all set right also
[07:55] <timfrost> aiFrantz: I am just surprised that it didn't show in a search from the Ubuntu home page
[07:56] <aiFrantz> timfrost : me too. Ubuntu changed the way drives are mounted in /media ....
[08:00] <Marzatha> can somebody tell me what the line "echo N > /sys/module/drm_kms_helper/parameters/poll" is doing?
[08:02] <amirrabie> hi......how i can install grub with ubuntu live cd?
[08:03] <Jordan_U> amirrabie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[08:03] <timfrost> Marzatha: turning off polling for that kernel module ?
[08:07] <jeaton> i dont have any burnables dvds or usb drives this very minute, and i don't want to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04
[08:07] <jeaton> anyway of running a virtual drive, booting to the image and installing that way?
[08:07] <Marzatha> timfrost: sounds so
[08:07]  * dtaht wonders if fq_codel is enabled in the main ubuntu kernel yet.
[08:07]  * dtaht knows it's in kamal's ppa
[08:09] <bond__> ntpd is not working in my system... i forwarded my clock by half hour yesterday and after 12 hours thee not a difference of even a single minute. I made necessary changes in /etc/ntp.conf Any idea what I might be missing?
[08:09] <bond__> I am using ubuntu 12.04
[08:15] <jamesbond> ntpd is not working in my ubuntu 12.04... i forwarded my clock by half hour yesterday and after 12 hours thee not a difference of even a single minute. I made necessary changes in /etc/ntp.conf Any idea what I might be missing?
[08:15] <timfrost> jamesbond: !pastebin the output from 'ntpq -c peers'
[08:16] <jamesbond> timfrost: i get following thing: "ntpq: read: Connection refused"
[08:18] <BWorld> Hi guys, I was here a few days ago already, I am having problems with the postinst script when installing mysql-server, my syslog looks like this one when installing: http://lists.ourshack.com/pipermail/mythtvnz/2012-June/012749.html
[08:19] <timfrost> jamesbond: are you sure that ntpd is running? That message suggests that it isn't.
[08:19] <Guest15365> Suppose i am opening termianl and it automatically show some message say as "Hello myname" . How to do this
[08:19] <BWorld> I had mysql-server installed but I had some issues after modifying my.cnf, some way I couldn't fix it anymore so I decided to remove the entire mysql-server and reinstall it but now I am stuck with these errors showed in the above posted link
[08:20] <jamesbond> i did following: sudo apt-get install ntp and then configured /etc/ntp.conf Was there anything else required?
[08:20] <BWorld> When I install the mysql-server on a fresh virtualbox vm of ubuntu 12.04 (server edition) it all goes perfectly ...
[08:21] <jamesbond> timfrost: i did following: sudo apt-get install ntp and then configured /etc/ntp.conf Was there anything else required?
[08:23] <everestt> I just installed 12.10 today, and I'm having problem with dependencies while installing packages using apt-get... here's a typical output from the terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/1317371/ ...this problem does not occur with every package that i'm trying to install... does 12.10 have unresolved dependency problems? help!
[08:23] <Jordan_U> !pm | amirrabie
[08:23] <timfrost> jamesbond: you need to start/restart the service with 'sudo service ntp start'
[08:25] <everestt> :/ similar error while trying to install matplotlib http://paste.ubuntu.com/1317377/
[08:26] <jamesbond> timfrost: here is the output now.. i guess it will work now.. http://pastebin.com/CnhtEbuy
[08:26] <Guest15365> Suppose i am opening termianl and it automatically show some message say as "Hello myname" . How to do this. Any idea
[08:27] <Guest74462> can someone tell me why ubuntu froze after I boot him from usb?
[08:27] <titusg> hi, I am trying to install 32-bit compat libs (ia32-libs) on a fresh 64-bit quantal, but it tells me a package it depends on -- ia32-libs-multiarch -- is not installable...any ideas
[08:28] <BWorld> Is there more to due except then: apt-get remove mysql-server*; apt-get purge mysql-server*; sudo rm -rf /var/lib/mysql; sudo rm -rf /etc/mysql ?
[08:28] <everestt> titusg,  i'm having similar problems, although with other packages.
[08:29] <mz|`> BWorld: finally, find / -name "*mysql*" -exec rm -rf {} \;
[08:29] <timfrost> jamesbond: that looks good.  That should have synced the clock to one of the servers (probably the first), and will keep the times synchronized.  It will take a few minutes for the ntp daemon to decide which server to use as master, but after that the time should be kept n sync
[08:29] <BWorld> Hmm, that is going to be a reall big list of files with Magento and Zend Framework on my disk ...
[08:29] <BWorld> and much more
[08:29] <Guest74462> why ubuntu frozes when I boot him from usb stick (unebootin) ??
[08:30] <mz|`> BWorld: so, you let the package manager do the job.
[08:30] <mz|`> :)
[08:30] <titusg> everestt: I suppose we need to wait for a fix upstream? I want to do some Android programming, no 64-bit SDK available :-(
[08:32] <jamesbond> timfrost: it isn't working as it was suppose to.. i made a 30 minutes change in clock and it corrected it in one go. I wanted it to be corrected little by little using ntp daemon..
[08:35] <timfrost> jamesbond: I believe that the start process uses ntpdate to set the clock, then ntpd is started to keep the clock synchronized.  ntpdate will "fix" the clock regardless of the difference
[08:35] <greenit> hi, i have a ubuntu server with utc as default time, but with the change from summertime to wintertime, the clock is now 1 hour before the real time... what is the right time to choose and is there a time which automatically changes with summer/wintertime?
[08:36] <titusg> This is the bug affecting me: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/1016294 -- am quite desperate.
[08:36] <jamesbond> timfrost: Thanks a lot
[08:37] <tom1210> my 12.10 install has stopped connecting to wlan properly
[08:37] <Jordan_U> mz|`: BWorld: It's never a good idea to run a find command that deletes things without testing it first to make sure it doesn't delete things you actually want, and '-f' is almost never needed with rm, and when it is you should probably be thinking twice about removing said file(s) anyway.
[08:37] <tom1210> it connects properly using a realtek usb dongle
[08:37] <nawk> man, Unity is soooo bad
[08:38] <Jordan_U> nawk: This channel is for support questions only, please take other discussion elsewhere.
[08:38] <tom1210> my 1210 has stopped connecting using broadcom
[08:38] <llutz> !notunity | nawk
[08:39] <titusg> Got the advice at ubuntuforums that I should junk my installation and install 32-bit. Gee, thanks!
[08:40] <timfrost> greenit: UTC is fixed because it us "universal coordinated time", but there will be a locale setting that will give you UK time that adjusts for daylight savings. I don't know what that locale setting is (Europe/UK or similar perhaps?)
[08:41] <czardoz> so I installed 12.04 LTS, and plugged in my USB mouse (which works fine).. problem is, whenever a key on my keyboard is pressed, the mouse doesnt move/respond
[08:41] <czardoz> anything I can do to fix it
[08:41] <czardoz> ?
[08:42] <oddalot> weird
[08:42] <czardoz> oddalot: i know... can't find anything about it on the internet
[08:42] <czardoz> x-(
[08:42] <oddalot> i guess i never even move my mouse when i'm typing
[08:42] <nawk> well, the problem I am experiencing cannot be resolved until the next revision of Randr, at least that's what I've been told
[08:42] <oddalot> are you using usb keyboar too?
[08:42] <czardoz> oddalot: I'm playing OpenArena :P
[08:43] <czardoz> oddalot: nope
[08:43] <czardoz> oddalot: the touchpad works even when im typing though
[08:43] <oddalot> hmmm, that's same setup i'm using, and it seems to word
[08:43] <oddalot> oh, so you think it's the mouse that's causing the problems then
[08:43] <czardoz> oddalot: it works just fine in Arch
[08:44] <boba88> hi, does anyone know how to fix this configure: error: SpiderMonkey is required for Script node JavaScript support ?
[08:44] <oddalot> arch?
[08:44] <czardoz> Arch Linux
[08:44] <nawk> multi-monitor setup involving rotations of individual screens  is not supported
[08:44] <oddalot> did you try rebooting lol?
[08:44] <czardoz> lol yeah :D
[08:44] <BWorld> mz|`, okee, removed everything related to mysql, running apt-get install mysql-server-5.5 again... really excited
[08:45] <stevecam> who maintains the nvidia drivers, is it nvidia or the community?
[08:45] <oddalot> crazy
[08:45] <oddalot> did you try a different usb port?
[08:45] <czardoz> yep, tried it
[08:46] <czardoz> tried a different mouse too
[08:46] <BWorld> mz|`, .... still the same, do you have an idea? http://pastebin.com/MNJPeM53
[08:47] <oddalot> weird to the max
[08:47] <stevecam> ive discovered a missing dependency with the nvidia-current drivers, how would i correct this?
[08:48] <tarzeau> i've got a machine that needs later nvidia drivers otherwise crashes badly x than ubuntu provides. now what?
[08:48] <auronandace> !launchpad | stevecam
[08:48] <timfrost> !nvidia | stevecam
[08:48] <stevecam> tarzeau, you need to install linux-headers-generic and reinstall the nvidia drivers
[08:49] <tarzeau> stevecam: no ubuntu doesn't have the drivers that the graphics card needs: 304.51
[08:49] <tarzeau> stevecam: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK104 [GeForce GTX 680] (rev a1)
[08:49] <tarzeau> stevecam: this according to nvidia is only supported by that driver and later
[08:50] <quatar> hi. In nautilus, I just have added a ssh link to my home in a remote host, and bookmarked it. Now how can I put the same bookmark on the desktop? (ubuntu 12.04)
[08:50] <stevecam> hmm, let me check what i have
[08:51] <BWorld> And syslog, again reporting about table 'plugin' already exists and some error on privilege tables, posted it here: http://pastebin.com/XuQc9L7v
[08:52] <Chakravanti> why do i have to set up an email to use the calander...or how do i tell evolution to disregard?
[08:54] <CrazyHorse18> hey this guy says: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-12.04-lts-nginx-bind-dovecot-ispconfig-3-p3
[08:55] <stevecam> tarzeau, i only have the GT430, just had a look, im not sure, i would love to help you a little more but ive had a long day, have you tried just installing the drivers from nvidia? that's what i would do at times
[08:55] <CrazyHorse18> AppArmor is a security extension (similar to SELinux) that should provide extended security. In my opinion you don't need it to configure a secure system, and it usually causes more problems than advantages (think of it after you have done a week of trouble-shooting because some service wasn't working as expected, and then you find out that everything was ok, only AppArmor was causing the problem). Therefore I disable it (this is a must if you want t
[08:55] <CrazyHorse18> what's your guys opinions?
[08:55] <tarzeau> stevecam: yes that worked of course
[08:55] <tarzeau> stevecam: but sucks if you maintain 150 ubuntu machines and you have to do one manually
[08:56] <tarzeau> stevecam: and there's more than just one such case...
[08:56] <blackshirt> crazyhorse, no,if you configure it correctly
[08:56] <llutz> no polls here please CrazyHorse18 ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:56] <tarzeau> CrazyHorse18: i absolutely agree
[08:56] <CrazyHorse18> llutz: not a poll. i'm setting up a server
[08:56] <CrazyHorse18> tarzeau: so does that mean just go with stardard file permissions?
[08:56] <stevecam> tarzeau, is it just the nvidia drivers you are having problems with?
[08:57] <tarzeau> stevecam: no there's many more special cases with problems without solutions
[08:57] <tarzeau> CrazyHorse18: works fine for me
[08:57] <CrazyHorse18> yeah my last server got hacked
[08:57] <blackshirt> crazyhorse18, MAC security was great way to increase security of linux box
[08:57] <stevecam> tarzeau, well, its the way of the future
[08:57] <CrazyHorse18> so i want to lock this one right down
[08:58] <tarzeau> stevecam: what? that people can't just use a computer as a tool? and need to read manuals and fix stuff to get their tool working properly?
[08:58] <tarzeau> stevecam: come on. apple does it right, some car manufacturers can do it...
[08:58] <tarzeau> stevecam: ever tried unity on more than one screen?
[08:58] <SharkeyO> hello there. I have big problems installing nginx on my ubuntu system
[08:58] <SharkeyO> can anyone please help me with that?
[08:59] <stevecam> no, that sounds awful lol
[08:59] <blackshirt> crazyhorse18, there are similar tool available, even you can lock up your root power with this security
[08:59] <tarzeau> SharkeyO: maybe, i use it too. which version?
[08:59] <quatar> hi all. I want to add a sftp/scp link to my desktop like I do when I bookmark a sftp/scp link in nautilus' side panel. How can I?
[08:59] <tarzeau> stevecam: it is!
[08:59] <SharkeyO> when i installed nginx via "apt-get install nginx" and started it, it says "500 internal server error"
[08:59] <SharkeyO> but al i did was install ist
[08:59] <SharkeyO> it
[08:59] <SharkeyO> so, what can i do now?
[08:59] <tarzeau> SharkeyO: have you configured nginx? check the log files, usually /var/log/nginx ?
[08:59] <SharkeyO> I'm pretty new to Ubuntu
[08:59] <stevecam> tarzeau, the problem ubuntu have at the moment is that instead of being linux they are trying to compete with windows, but unfortunately linux != windows
[09:00] <tarzeau> stevecam: and they are trying to copy os x too, but only the look not its idea
[09:00] <tarzeau> stevecam: then even if they are able to make it look good. it feels like shit
[09:00] <tarzeau> stevecam: user interface is everything. and the company nextstep did it just right, if you want to read up some good documentation, i have some linked at livecd.gnustep.org
[09:01] <SharkeyO> tarzeau: it says error: rewrite or internal redirection cycle while internally redirecting to "/index.html"
[09:01] <tarzeau> SharkeyO: google that?
[09:01] <SharkeyO> ok, thanks
[09:01] <tarzeau> SharkeyO: or look at your index.html what does it say?
[09:02] <stevecam> maybe another day
[09:02] <MomoDav> hi all
[09:03] <blackshirt> hi momodav
[09:03] <SharkeyO> tarzeau: the index.html is written properly. Everything is fine
[09:03] <SharkeyO> but the cyclingtakes event and i don't know where or wh
[09:03] <SharkeyO> why
[09:08] <nawk> !notunity > nawk
[09:13] <SharkeyO> tarzeau: think i don't get this to work
[09:13] <SharkeyO> there's no solution on google, that works for me
[09:13] <SharkeyO> NGINX says: rewrite or internal redirection cycle while internally redirecting to "/index.html"
[09:13] <SharkeyO> for client <IP_ADDRESS> and server: localhost
[09:17] <yacc> 10.04LTS, any idea why I cannot access a Win7 share via mount -o cifs, which works fine via smbclient?
[09:19]  * jokar hello all
[09:19] <jokar> how can i remove unity and install gnome classic ?
[09:19] <llutz> !classic >jokar
[09:19] <gordonjcp> jokar: travel back in time ten years?
[09:20] <jokar> i remove all unity package
[09:20] <jokar> apt-get remove unity*
[09:20] <jokar> i want install gnome 2
[09:21] <llutz> gnome2 is dead
[09:21] <frenk> ciao
[09:22] <jokar> yes
[09:22] <jokar> but i need it
[09:22] <jokar> unity is very heavy for my virtual machine
[09:22] <_cronus_> jokar, me too mate
[09:22] <llutz> jokar: there are dozens of other DE/WMs
[09:22] <jokar> any idea?
[09:22] <b0agn> jokar: You could try MATE.
[09:22] <jokar> mate?
[09:22] <jokar> how can i install it?
[09:22] <laite> jokar: you could had a look on ubuntu spins like lubuntu/xubuntu
[09:23] <jokar> No i like Gnome
[09:23] <b0agn> jokar: MATE is a fork of Gnome 2: http://mate-desktop.org/
[09:23] <jokar> i will do it
[09:27] <Jordan_U> jokar: MATE isn't supported here. XFCE is lighter than GNOME2, actively maintained, officially supported, and is very similar to GNOME2.
[09:27] <Jordan_U> !xubuntu | jokar
[09:27] <alsight> man irssi
[09:27] <Jordan_U> jokar: And if you really want low resource usage look into LXDE.
[09:27] <Jordan_U> !lubuntu | jokar
[09:28] <jokar> Jordan_U: i install gnome shell
[09:28] <jokar> Jordan_U: can i send PM?
[09:28] <jokar> o/ Jordan_U:
[09:28] <jokar> o/ Jordan_U
[09:29] <alsight> d
[09:29] <Jordan_U> jokar: GNOME Shell is also supported. Yes you may PM me, but 1: I prefer to keep support discussion in-channel and 2: I'm leaving in about 2 minutes.
[09:29] <alsight> people r u here?
[09:29] <cfhowlett> alsight: greetings
[09:30] <tobias____> Hey every
[09:30] <LKJ> Hey
[09:30] <tobias____> I am having a big issue... i have been trying to solve it for a week.
[09:30] <alsight> cfhowlett: XD
[09:30] <tobias____> Anyone around who knows ubuntu pretty well?
[09:30] <cfhowlett> !details|tobias____:
[09:30] <Jordan_U> !anyone | tohtori_
[09:30] <Jordan_U> tohtori_: Sorry, that was for tobias____ :)
[09:31] <tobias____> I have a problem with syncing my iphone with my ubuntu version 12.4 when i try to sync using the program amarok i can see the music files but i cant delete or manipulate them. I also cant sync because the button isnt highlighted.
[09:32] <chatman> !iphone | tobias____
[09:33] <alsight> ))))
[09:33] <alextest> man irssi
[09:33] <alsight> )))
[09:33] <alsight> kjh
[09:33] <alextest> not
[09:34] <alextest> ?
[09:34] <alextest> ?
[09:34] <tobias____> thanks ubouttu ill check it out... although ive checked out 100s of websites
[09:34] <tobias____> and none have helped me.
[09:34] <BWorld> finally!! The answer to my problem about the installation error on mysql was about granting shutdown and select privilege to debian-sys-maint user
[09:34] <alextest> i
[09:35] <alextest> exit
[09:35] <alextest> logout
[09:35] <alextest> quit
[09:35] <somsip> alextest: try /quit
[09:35] <alextest> thanks
[09:36] <BWorld> I wonder how it comes that this problem only occurs when you have uninstalled mysqlserver and install it again, on fresh setup I didn't need to do this ....
[09:39] <somsip> BWorld: mysql will create tables for privileges and it's possible these are not removed unless you purge the app, rather than uninstalling it, or even suro rm -rf /var/lib/mysql
[09:39] <somsip> *sudo
[09:40] <BWorld> somsip: Well, that is strange, where is this information stored? I have purged (apt-get purge mysql-server*) and removed /var/lib/mysql
[09:40] <BWorld> somsip: well, in my opinion it is strange because I probably dont understand how this is working on low level
[09:40] <somsip> BWorld: IME, that is where table info is installed.
[09:40] <blackshirt> bworld, removing /var/lib/mysql ??? Not needed
[09:41] <BWorld> Well, when you are out of solutions you try everything.. I backup all my database before I removed this directory ;-)
[09:41] <BWorld> backed up *
[09:42] <blackshirt> bworld, what the strange happen ?
[09:44] <tobias____> hey ubottu
[09:45] <GNUbuntu> hoi
[09:45] <tobias____> When i attempt to type this into my terminal
[09:45] <chatman> !ubottu | tobias____
[09:45] <BWorld> blackshirt: I uninstalled my mysql-server due to problems on starting the service I couldn't solve, when I tried to reinstall it it was causing me trouble again about 'Table 'plugin' already exists' and some error on executing a privileg related query. The "strange" factor is that this is not happening on a fresh ubuntu system
[09:45] <BWorld> So what I did
[09:45] <tobias____> oh ubottu is a bot?
[09:45] <tobias____> haha is there anyone whos a human who wouldnt mind helping me?
[09:46] <MomoDav> I'm a human but i can't help you with that, sorry :)
[09:46] <BWorld> Was install mysql-server, let it fail but I was able to run mysqld manually from terminal and login to it, then granted the SELECT and SHUTDOWN privilege to the debian-system-maint user and after that I was able to complete the installation with the package manager
[09:46] <tobias_> Any one around whos a human who may be able to help me?
[09:47] <BWorld> tobias_: If you start telling your problem maybe someone will
[09:47] <tobias_> well im trying to sync my iphone w ubuntu 12.3
[09:47] <tobias_> 12.4*
[09:47] <MomoDav> what do you mean, "sync" ?
[09:47] <tobias_> right now imt rying to type in http://webchat.freenode.net/
[09:47] <BWorld> tobias_: and your problem is?
[09:47] <tobias_> whoops
[09:47] <tobias_> sudo apt-get hold libmtp8 libmtp-dev libusb-dev libusb-0.1-4
[09:47] <tobias_> trying to type that into terminal
[09:48] <tobias_> but it says
[09:48] <tobias_> E: invalid operation hold.
[09:48] <BWorld> install
[09:48] <MomoDav> why hold ? oO
[09:48] <MomoDav> install lol
[09:48] <BWorld> haha
[09:48] <somsip> !pinning | tobias_
[09:48] <MomoDav> sudo apt-get install
[09:48] <tobias_> so im not sure what im doing?
[09:48] <MomoDav> you are adding libraries to your ubuntu
[09:49] <tobias_> so i dont need to do that?
[09:49] <tobias_> i have downloaded all of the apps for syncing iphone to my comp and none of them work, i can see the songs in the iphone... but i cant manipulate them.
[09:50] <MomoDav> you don't "download apps" with ubuntu, you use the package manager to install them … and thanks to it, it will calculate dependencies and install them automatically …
[09:51] <tobias_> okay so in rythmbox when i go to sync library, the sync button is not highlighed
[09:51] <tobias_> so i cant even click it?
[09:51] <tobias_> all of the apps have some issue simular.
[09:52] <blackshirt> bworld, was purging process run successfully, i mean no error
[09:52] <tobias_> gtkpod asks for my ipod mount point.. where is that?
[09:52] <tobias_> where do i mount it?
[09:53] <BWorld> there was no error when I removed mysql-server-common but there were errors when removing mysql-server-5.5 because it asked me to put in a password wich it could not set
[09:53] <guibog> ?
[09:53] <blackshirt> bworld, thats mean,  mysql-server was not completely removed
[09:53] <tobias_> Does anyone know
[09:54] <BWorld> At the other hand, If I tried to purge mysql-server-5.5 after purging mysqlcommon it was reporting that mysql-server-5.5 wasn't installed
[09:54] <tobias_> i dont understand where to mount my mountpoint so my phone and comp can communicate.
[09:54] <BWorld> great, right ? xD
[09:54] <guibog> \?
[09:54] <tobias_> hello?
[09:55] <guibog> trying irssi
[09:55] <tobias_> does no one want to help me cause im a noob, or am i just getting bad luck here.
[09:55] <blackshirt> bworld, i was wondering, why purging mysql-server was tricky hard ... I have experiences with this problem
[09:55] <gour> hello
[09:55] <tobias_> hi
[09:55] <cfhowlett> gour: greetings
[09:55] <gour> does ubuntu support xfce DE or one should use xubuntu?
[09:56] <llutz> gour: just install xubuntu-desktop package
[09:56] <blackshirt> gour, xubuntu was use xfce
[09:56] <ex0a> gour: if you install xubuntu-desktop you'll get a configured xfce, but you can install xfce manually if you really want
[09:56] <gour> atm i installed linux mint (xfce), but some people asking me why not ubuntu which might have more features and support
[09:56] <tobias_> blackshirt do you know whats going on with my situation?
[09:56] <aiFrantz> gour : yes.. just install the xubuntu package and you can choose the xfce session on startup
[09:56] <tobias_> ex0a?
[09:56] <ex0a> tobias_: ?
[09:57] <gour> ex0a: so there is xubuntu-desktop within ubuntu itself?
[09:57] <tobias_> I'm wondering if anyone knows anything about my situation?
[09:57] <llutz> gour: if you plan a fresh installation, go for xubuntu
[09:57] <blackshirt> gour, i don't think that
[09:57] <gour> what is the difference (in terms of features and support) between the two?
[09:57] <MomoDav> why don't you sell your iPhone and buy android instead :p
[09:57] <ex0a> gour: yes, from any ubuntu installation you can install xubuntu-desktop and get an xfce desktop, but if you're doing a new install, get xubuntu to begin with
[09:57] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:58] <tobias_> so is the reason anyone refuses to help me because i own an iphone?
[09:58] <MomoDav> or buy macbook, but it'll be more expensive :D
[09:58] <tobias_> dude my dad bought it for me for xmas.
[09:58] <cfhowlett> gour: both are official ubuntu distros and are supported by canonical
[09:58] <MomoDav> just kidding
[09:58] <BWorld> blackshirt: you have similiar problems where you get your logs look this: pastebin.com/MNJPeM53
[09:58] <gour> ex0a: i wonder what is the difference between the two if one uses xfce desktop and/or any pro/cons in ubuntu/mint?
[09:58] <tobias_> i have come here twice.. and no ones helping me.. id ont mean to complain but u guys just tell me iphone sucks...
[09:58] <tobias_> lol
[09:58] <tobias_> its not helpful
[09:58] <FloodBot1> tobias_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:58] <cristian_c> I've found that I can send commands to my irc client from a configuration file: perform.conf
[09:59] <llutz> tobias_: not helpful but true
[09:59] <cfhowlett> tobias_: not sucks.  not supported on ubuntu/linux.  by design.  please direct complaints to apple
[09:59] <cristian_c> for example: cmd = /join #ubuntu
[09:59] <ex0a> gour: mint is based off ubuntu so you probably wont notice much difference
[09:59] <tobias_> yeah but its possible to sync them.
[09:59] <tobias_> i mean as far as im reading online...
[09:59] <tobias_> am i wrong?
[09:59] <BWorld> tobias_: maybe you can install a virtualbox and run windows on it
[09:59] <ex0a> gour: i booted into mint 13 cinnamon (i have ubuntu running cinnamon as my main os) and it was so similar i just booted back into ubuntu
[09:59] <cristian_c> If I add this line to a particular server section, the command is executed
[09:59] <alsight> )
[10:00] <tobias_> bworld i should be able to do it easier then that.