[06:38] <Leomar> any help ?  i need help using and external hard drive enclusure <2.5" USB 2.0-SATA >iMicro in Ubuntu 8.10, i bought it today, i'm able to use it in another PC with XP but when i connect it in Ubuntu it says "USB Unit" recognized as /dev/sdb and nothing more, i cant mount it , fdisk /dev/sdb doesn't work . any idea ? Thanks
[06:38] <lstarnes> Leomar: stop. we can read your messages, but it is possible thet either nobody currently active knows an answer, or someone is working on finding an answer.
[06:39] <kebomix> any body here help me with mythtv plz cuz their room almost dead
[06:40]  * Soren1 goes off to read more about ubiquity and XP/Ubuntu OS installs
[06:40]  * RHorse goes off to shower
[06:40] <she_dyed> Leomar dmesg and look at the last few lines referring to sdb
[06:41] <felix_> whats the command to build dependences of a certain package?
[06:42] <trinium> how to import key in seahorse??
[06:43] <Leomar> she_dyed here is it :
[06:43] <Leomar> root@leo-desktop:~# dmesg | grep sdb
[06:43] <Leomar> [  121.616419] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
[06:43] <Leomar> [22871.598245] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
[06:43] <FloodBot2> Leomar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:43] <indus> felix_apt-get build-dep
[06:43] <Leomar> sorry for the flood
[06:43] <she_dyed> Leomar ls -l /dev/sdb*
[06:43] <indus> felix_: apt-get build-dep <packagename>
[06:44] <dorkface> I have a virtual machine with intrepid, but I want to install a .deb file.  I'm used to just double clicking it in order for it to install, but when I do so, it's asking for a program to open it.  What program should I use?
[06:44]  * Soren1 's brain blows up again while reading Ubiquity
[06:45] <felix_> thx indus
[06:45] <Leomar> 1 2she_dyed: root@leo-desktop:~# ls -l /dev/sdb* brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 16 2009-05-21 01:43 /dev/sdb
[06:45] <Leomar> just it self
[06:45] <Leomar> no sdb1 nor sdb2 etc
[06:46] <she_dyed> Leomar, got another live CD distro?
[06:46] <indus> Leomar: can u ask question again
[06:47] <Leomar> i have 7.04, i think, let me see. What is your intention
[06:47] <Soren1> will someone link me to the simplest explanation of XP/Ubuntu installation...................... there are a million
[06:47] <lstarnes> Leomar: check lsb_release -d
[06:47] <she_dyed> paste your original question again Leomar for indus
[06:47] <Leomar> ok
[06:47] <smooch1502> hi
[06:47] <Leomar>  i need help using and external hard drive enclusure <2.5" USB 2.0-SATA >iMicro in Ubuntu 8.10, i bought it today, i'm able to use it in another PC with XP but when i connect it in Ubuntu it says "USB Unit" recognized as /dev/sdb and nothing more, i cant mount it , fdisk /dev/sdb doesn't work . any idea ? Thanks
[06:48] <kebomix> my thinkpad R52 , Volume Buttons don't work with new notifications system on ubuntu 9.04 ? any solution ?!
[06:48] <soreau> ! work
[06:49] <indus> Leomar: is this jaunty 9.04 u using?
[06:49] <Leomar> no, 8.04
[06:49] <soreau> When are we dropping support for 8.04 again?
[06:50] <soreau> officially
[06:50] <indus> soreau: 2011
[06:50] <lstarnes> soreau: 3 years after its release (5 for the server edition)
[06:50] <indus> Leomar: does it list under lsusb
[06:50] <soreau> indus: Not till 11.04?
[06:50] <tianchai> HI
[06:50] <moolah> hello all
[06:50] <tianchai> GOOD MORNING
[06:51] <soreau> lstarnes: Ah yes, that's what I recall
[06:51] <moolah> newbie question
[06:51] <soreau> tianchai: Hi
[06:51] <Leomar> i want to upgrate to 9.04 that's why i'm doing the backup
[06:51] <soreau> mooky: welcome
[06:51] <moolah> how do i install a package when i dont have internet connectivity?
[06:51] <KingKimi> !ask | moolah
[06:51] <tianchai> WHERE ARE LIVE
[06:51] <she_dyed> kebomix, make sure to unmute (next to vol on my stinkpad)
[06:51] <tianchai> 你
[06:51] <indus> Leomar: its an external usb harddrive right?
[06:51] <moolah> can i download the .deb and use it somehow after copying to a USB key?
[06:51] <soreau> moolah: Through the CD or, you have to get the internet
[06:51] <Leomar> indus: no
[06:51] <moolah> soreau: no its not on the cd
[06:52] <indus> Leomar: try this sudo modprobe -i usb_storage
[06:52] <soreau> moolah: Yes you can get a deb, but it may rely on other deb packages to be installed
[06:52] <moolah> soreau: its for another comp thats offline, i need to install wicd on it, so it can go online
[06:52] <moolah> ah...damn
[06:52] <ryan_> i can't access my shared folders on my windows machine through my home network.
[06:52] <kebomix> she_dyed : i did , buttons do volume up and down, the notifications of them dont appear like brightness one's
[06:52] <moolah> so what should i do?
[06:53] <she_dyed> kebomix, oh ignore me then
[06:53] <indus> Leomar: also try this > add line usb_storage to /etc/modules
[06:53] <Leomar> indus: ok. i did now. No output, don't si de partitions jet
[06:53] <cg> hello. when mount a nfs with 'mount -o -o soft,intr,bg,timeo=50 xxx xxx' . does the 'timeo=50' means 'timeout 50 *seconds*' ?
[06:53] <Soren1> .
[06:53] <Leomar> sorry, dont see the partitions jet
[06:53] <indus> Leomar: try last step i said and restart pc
[06:53] <ziroday> cg: yep, it means wait 50 seconds before attempting to mount the drive IIRC
[06:54] <indus> Leomar: or wait
[06:54] <ryan_> i can't access my shared folders on my windows machine through my home network.
[06:54] <Leomar> ok
[06:54] <cg> ziroday: thank you very much.
[06:54] <Leomar> i'll wait
[06:54] <indus> Leomar: nvm ok just restart it and see
[06:54] <indus> good luck
[06:54] <ziroday> cg: have fun!
[06:54] <Leomar> ok i'll restart then
[06:56] <cg> ziroday: another question. if i mount without option '-o soft,intr,bg,timeo=50', when the nfs server is down, and i 'cd /mount_piont' and 'ls', my terminal is blocked. and even 'fuser -k /mount_point' blocks the terminal. any solutions ?
[06:57] <ziroday> cg: you can always try doing ctrl+c or ctrl+z
[06:58] <cg> ziroday: nothing happens when Ctrl+c or ctrl+z
[06:58] <ziroday> cg: and closing the terminal?
[06:58] <shiznebit> hey guys im wondering on how to automatically mount an external drive after suspend ?
[06:58] <she_dyed> cg, if you can find xkill in utilities menu or something
[06:58] <Burlynn> ubuntu 8.10 new install on a laptop intel 945 chipset, normal visual effects, DarkRoom theme option, all my popup notifications are two colors, is this normal? the background is half tan half grey, does not look right
[06:59] <cg> ziroday: of course i can close it by force. the problem is, the mount piont is still there, and any program goes into it will be blocked, and so does the terminal
[06:59] <ziroday> cg: sorry I don't know
[07:00] <losher> cg: check out 'man 5 nfs'. That timeout is *tenths* of a second, and its timeout until retry, so you may need retrans=1 or some such
[07:00] <cg> ziroday: that's all right. thanks again. i will keep google-ing it until i got an answer
[07:01] <Leomar> indus: i restarted the system, i can see the HD in lsusb => Bus 005 Device 003: ID 152d:2338 JMicron Technology Corp. / JMicron USA Technology Corp. JM20337 Hi-Speed USB to SATA & PATA Combo Bridge, but cant mount it
[07:01] <indus> sudo mount -a
[07:01] <cg> losher: ok, thanks! and i hope you can answer me the other question about the blocked terminal
[07:01] <Leomar> i do: ls -l /dev/sdb* and cant see sdb1 or nothing
[07:01] <indus> Leomar: sudo mount -a
[07:01] <klenix>  presently i'm running ubuntu 8.04, i want upgrade into ubuntu 9.04. What is the best should i do. should i fresh install it?
[07:02] <indus> klenix: take back up and upgrade from update manager
[07:02] <losher> cg: if you get the parameters right, it shouldn't block. See retrans & retry\
[07:02] <RHorse> Leomar ls -rt /dev give anything?
[07:03] <cg> losher: yes, you are right. the problem is , if someone forgot to add the proper options, it will block, and how to solve it? i don't want to restart the server
[07:03] <indus> Leomar: type mount in terminal and paste in pastebin
[07:03] <indus> Leomar: contents that is
[07:03] <raylu> cg: you could just set the timeout lower...
[07:04] <cg> raylu: ok, thanks, but what if it had ALREADY happened ..
[07:04] <Leomar> i did: sudo mount -a, nothing
[07:04] <raylu> cg: open a new shell and kill ls, i suppose
[07:04] <indus> Leomar: paste output of mount
[07:05] <indus> !paste > Leomar
[07:05] <klenix> indus: can i update directly into 9.04? or should be  8.10 first?
[07:05] <cg> raylu: ls doesn't answer to the 'kill' even 'kill -9' by root
[07:05] <Leomar> /dev/sda2 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)
[07:05] <Leomar> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[07:05] <Leomar> /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[07:05] <Leomar> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
[07:05] <Leomar> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[07:05] <Leomar> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[07:05] <FloodBot2> Leomar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:05] <Leomar> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[07:05] <Leomar> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[07:05] <Leomar> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[07:05] <Leomar> securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
[07:05] <losher> cg: if someone *forgot* the right options, then no. In that case, the whole design of nfs is that it will block. The options are on the client anyway, not the server. You can't expect miracles
[07:05] <Leomar> binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[07:05] <Leomar> gvfs-fuse-daemon on /root/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[07:05] <Leomar> sorry
[07:05] <raylu> cg: kill -9 isn't even passed to the program; the kernel takes it off the run queue. if that doesn't work, you did it wrong :D
[07:05] <cg> losher: ok. this is good !
[07:05] <indus> klenix: type sudo update-manager -d
[07:06] <indus> klenix: but i recommend a fresh install in your case since u r on 8.04
[07:06] <losher> raylu: things that are in disk wait can't even be KILLed...
[07:06] <raylu> losher: but they can be TERMed
[07:06] <klenix> indus: thanks, let me try.
[07:06] <Flannel> indus, klenix: no.  You need to go from 8.04 to 8.10 to 9.04.  Also, you don't need to do sudo update-manager -d
[07:06] <Soren1> will someone link me to the simplest explanation of XP/Ubuntu installation...................... there are a million
[07:06] <cg> raylu: losher : so it will block when the server restart.
[07:07] <Flannel> !dualboot | Soren1
[07:07] <Leomar> RHorse: "ls -rt /dev", ls -rt /dev/sdb just: /dev/sdb it gives a lot of things
[07:07] <losher> raylu: I doubt you can TERM them either, actually....
[07:07] <indus> Flannel: hardy is LTS and will only offer the next LTS by default behaviour
[07:07] <raylu> losher: i'm sure you can
[07:07] <Flannel> indus: -d won't fix that
[07:07] <raylu> losher: kill -9 should always work
[07:07] <cg> raylu: no, it's not true
[07:07] <Flannel> indus: What you do need to do, is go to software sources and choose "notify me of all updates" not just LTS (third, fourth tab?)
[07:07] <indus> Flannel: hmm i guess
[07:07] <Soren1> ty Flannel
[07:07] <Flannel> er
[07:07] <Flannel> klenix: What you do need to do, is go to software sources and choose "notify me of all updates" not just LTS (third, fourth tab?)
[07:07] <losher> cg: the client will block *until* the server restarts....
[07:07] <cg> raylu: proccess in "UNINTERRUPTABLE" state does not answer any signals
[07:08] <indus> Flannel: ya so instead of going through 8.10 and 9.04 go directly
[07:08] <cg> losher: lol , yes
[07:08] <Flannel> klenix: then the next time you use update-manager, it'll notify you that you can upgrade to 8.10
[07:08] <raylu> cg: kill -9 isn't sent as a signal
[07:08] <Flannel> indus: No.  You don't want to do that.  Nor will update-manager -d do that.
[07:08] <cg> raylu: it is
[07:08] <Leomar> root@leo-desktop:~# mount /dev/sda2 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro) proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755) varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777) udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755) devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.2
[07:08] <raylu> cg: the kernel takes it off the run queue
[07:08] <indus> klenix: Flannel:yes sorry my mistake
[07:08] <Flannel> !paste | Leomar
[07:09] <Flannel> Leomar: pastebin is an easier place to put it (and have it still be legible, and easier for you, etc)
[07:09] <indus> Flannel: klenix:changing sources list to jaunty does work though :)
[07:09] <e-1> how stupid/smart is it to resize (larger) the partition that you're currently working from?
[07:09] <|lekarousar|> guys i need help with jaunty, can anyone help please?
[07:09] <Flannel> !worksforme | indus, klenix
[07:09] <raylu> cg: http://www.manpagez.com/man/2/sigaction/
[07:09] <losher> e-1: beyond stupid
[07:09] <raylu> The sa_mask field specified in act is not allowed to block SIGKILL or SIGSTOP.  Any attempt to do so will be silently ignored.
[07:09] <Leomar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/176941/
[07:09] <raylu> cg: so i meant kill, not term
[07:09] <Flannel> indus: No, please don't recommend that here.  Only supported upgrades are from version to the next version (and LTS to LTS).  Please don't recommend otherwise.
[07:09] <cg> raylu: 'kill' just tell kernel to send 'sigkill' to the process, and the kernel terminate the process if it receives a 'SIGKILL'
[07:10] <indus> Flannel: well ok
[07:10] <raylu> cg: oh... you're right :P
[07:10] <indus> klenix: do a fresh install
[07:10] <indus> klenix: download 9.04 and u can install
[07:10] <Leomar> Flannel: that way ??
[07:10] <Flannel> klenix: no, don't do a fresh install.  Upgrading will work just fine.
[07:10] <Xavierg2003> The backend took too much time to process the synchronous request - you need to fork! anyone know what that means?
[07:10] <Leomar> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/176941/
[07:11] <indus> Leomar: yes
[07:11] <Leomar> ok
[07:11] <losher> raylu: we're having terminological issues: you can always kill -9 a process but that doesn't mean it goes away. If it's in disk-wait it won't go away. It it isn't reaped it will become a zombie & sit there...
[07:11] <migo> hello everyone
[07:11] <raylu> losher: yeah, turns out you're right
[07:11] <cellofellow> anyone know how to import a key with Seahorse and have that key be *my* key as opposed to someone else's key?
[07:11] <Xavierg2003> Anyone?
[07:11] <losher> raylu: had to happen eventually...
[07:11] <raylu> losher: :(
[07:12] <raylu> cellofellow: get the private key
[07:12] <cg> losher: you are all right but the 'zombie' it's an "UNINTERRUPTABLE" state
[07:12] <Soren1> what is this SWAP stuff in a Dual Boot
[07:12] <Xavierg2003> Where do i report a problem when it asks me to report the error details?
[07:12] <Flannel> !bugs | Xavierg2003
[07:12] <raylu> Soren1: swap = virtual memory
[07:12] <|lekarousar|> i upgraded to jaunty and now it says displayconfig-gtk isn't installed, and there's no internet either, as it can't recognize my ethernet, help please?
[07:12] <cellofellow> raylu: oh, shucks, only have the public key
[07:12] <raylu> cellofellow: you lost your own private key? do you have the revoke key?
[07:13] <Boohbah> Xavierg2003: it is also a good idea to search for an existing bug before filing a new one
[07:13] <Xavierg2003> The backend took too much time to process the synchronous request - you need to fork!
[07:13] <losher> cg: if it's waiting for disk i/o, I think that will happen. No cure except for disk i/o to complete, or a reboot
[07:13] <Xavierg2003> Thats what it said
[07:13] <migo> i use my laptop windows media center with tv tuner  and use extender on my xbox360 to view the tv. now i am ready to use my ubuntu computer. anyone know of a software that will do what windows media center does so my xbox will reconize it/
[07:13] <cellofellow> raylu: revoke key?
[07:13] <Brando753> is there away to require a password to start firefox in ubuntu?
[07:13] <Xavierg2003> it said report that
[07:13] <Flannel> cellofellow: a revocation certificate.  Have you published your key anywhere?
[07:13] <cellofellow> raylu: hey, I kept my SSH key, but I guess I left my PGP key behind.
[07:13] <plouffe> I just upgraded to 9.04 and now flash isn't working at all
[07:13] <Xavierg2003> So do i just email that to them or.....
[07:13] <cg> losher: yes
[07:13] <cellofellow> Flannel: yeah, on the pgp.com keyserver and the ubuntu.com keyserver.
[07:13] <lstarnes> Brando753: I'm not sure.  Why?
[07:14] <RHorse> |lekarousar| output of ifconfig?
[07:14] <Brando753> so people dont go on it :P
[07:14] <Flannel> cellofellow: If you don't have a recovation certificate (assuming you lost your private key), those keys will be there (and useless) forever.
[07:14] <lstarnes> Brando753: you could uninstall it
[07:14] <cellofellow> drat
[07:14] <|lekarousar|> RHorse: only gives the lo
[07:14] <Brando753> sometimes its neccesary, hence the admin password
[07:14] <Flannel> cellofellow: That's why the first thing you do after generating a key is generate a recovation certificate ;)
[07:15] <Soren1> raylu, Swap = slower "RAM" on the HDD? does it need to be in the middle of the XP partition and the Ubuntu partition?
[07:15] <cellofellow> Flannel: ok
[07:15] <Flannel> cellofellow: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[07:15] <|lekarousar|> RHorse: I tried modifying the /etc/network/interfaces and it doesn't work
[07:15] <Leomar> indus: so i did what you told me i restarted the system in i can get lsusb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/176945/ ;  dmesg | grep sdb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/176946/ ; dmesg -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/176947/
[07:15] <indus> Leomar: hang on
[07:16] <klenix> Flanel: indus: leomar: sorry i'm a little bit confuse about this LTS upgrade. so What should i do?
[07:16] <RHorse> |lekarousar| output of lspci show ahything? Card recognized?
[07:16] <Leomar> ok
[07:16] <indus> klenix: why do you want to upgrade ? 8.04 giving any problems?
[07:16] <raylu> Soren1: it can be anywhere
[07:17] <|lekarousar|> RHorse: yes, both my ehternet controller and Network controller are installed
[07:17] <Soren1> raylu: and Ubuntu needs atleast 10GB to be happy?
[07:17] <Flannel> klenix: go to software sources, and on one of the tabs theres a spot where you can tell it how you want to upgrade.  You want to upgrade from 8.04 (LTS) to 8.10 (non-LTS).  The default in LTS releases is to only mention LTS upgrades (which, as of now is planned for 10.04).  So you need to tell it that you really do want to upgrade to a 'regular old release'.
[07:17] <raylu> Soren1: not of swap, but yes
[07:17] <raylu> Soren1: it's possible to install with less, but not recommended
[07:18] <Soren1> so if I want to run programs too, then I should have 20GB for ubuntu?
[07:18] <klenix> indus: Not big problem. but it has better broadband connection for me, here.
[07:18] <DaZ> Soren1: 10
[07:18] <RHorse> |lekarousar| try sudo ifconfig eth0
[07:18] <raylu> Soren1: programs usually won't take up more than 10gb. where do you plan on storing files?
[07:18] <Leomar> indus: busy /
[07:19] <Leomar> indus: busy ?
[07:19] <openttd> #webkit-efl
[07:19] <|lekarousar|> RHorse: says eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[07:19] <Ethan``> hi, how do i make the number of desktops permanent on kde. It keeps reverting to the previous settings
[07:20] <RHorse> |lekarousar| try sudo ifconfig eth1
[07:20] <indus> Leomar: sorry was on another irc
[07:20] <Soren1> raylu: I have a 120GB HDD, but I am very very new to Ubuntu and only want to use it once and a while. I originally partitioned it as 110GB for XP and 10GB blank to be used for Ubuntu
[07:20] <raylu> |lekarousar|: you should revert your interfaces file. also, ifconfig -a and lspci -v may be of use
[07:20] <mamaro> i use my laptop windows media center with tv tuner  and use extender on my xbox360 to view the tv. now i am ready to use my ubuntu computer. anyone know of a software that will do what windows media center does so my xbox will reconize it/
[07:20] <indus> Leomar: use pastebin for output of this  sudo fdisk -l
[07:21] <klenix> flanel: so i need upgrade into 8.10 than 9.04, isn't it.
[07:21] <Soren1> raylu: but now I know I need 10GB  just to keep Ubuntu, alone, happy and I need a swap partition
[07:21] <raylu> Soren1: ok. 10GB should be fine. if you have large/many files, you can always just store them somewhere on the xp drive
[07:21] <raylu> Soren1: how much ram do you have?
[07:21] <Soren1> 1GB :(
[07:21] <DaZ> Soren1: you don't need swap
[07:21] <she_dyed> Brando753, iirc theres a firefox -profilemanager? see if it 's applicable
[07:22] <indus> klenix: Flannel:why should he go through 2 upgrades ?? huh
[07:22] <Leomar> Soren1: that's good i think
[07:22] <she_dyed> Brando753, am just not sure how restrictive it can be
[07:22] <raylu> Soren1: i'd recommend 1GB of swap and 9GB for /
[07:22] <indus> klenix: just download and install 9.04
[07:22] <DaZ> raylu: why does he need swap?
[07:22] <felix_> !pastebin
[07:22] <raylu> DaZ: for suspend
[07:22] <DaZ> with 1gb i'm using like 15megs of it
[07:22] <ottoshmi1t> quit
[07:22] <Leomar> indus: ok, i'm going to
[07:23] <raylu> DaZ: and it's not hard to use more than 1GB of memory
[07:23] <DaZ> well, it's hard enough for me ;
[07:23] <Soren1> why isn't there a way to put XP on one end of the HDD and Ubuntu on the other end and tell them to use parts in the middle as needed until they both fill it up
[07:23] <raylu> Soren1: you can... like i said, you can put files on the xp partition
[07:23] <|lekarousar|> RHorse: no luck
[07:23] <DaZ> Soren1: you can use windows partition in ubuntu
[07:23] <klenix> indus: ok i will. thanks.
[07:24] <DaZ> Soren1: it's laptop or desktop?
[07:24] <Flannel> klenix: Upgrading will be easier.
[07:24] <Ethan``> (repasting my question) how do i make the number of desktops permanent on kde. It keeps reverting to the previous settings
[07:24] <Soren1> so Ubuntu is more than happy to write on an XP partitioned space on the HDD
[07:24] <Flannel> indus: Because there's absolutely no reason to spend all that time reconfiguring everything, backing up your data, etc.
[07:24] <Soren1> laptop
[07:24] <Flannel> Ethan``: They may know more in #kubuntu
[07:24] <indus> Flannel: who says you need to reconfigure
[07:24] <raylu> Soren1: it's not more than happy, perse, but it'll do it :D
[07:24] <Ethan``> thanks
[07:24] <Soren1> Gateway 4520 ...............P O S
[07:24] <Flannel> indus: Erm, there's things called settings.
[07:25] <Leomar> indus: sudo fdisk -l => http://paste.ubuntu.com/176951/
[07:25] <Soren1> lol, raylu, and it can run programs from there too?
[07:25] <indus> Flannel:well a little time spent on that is better than having to sit through 2 upgrades
[07:25] <raylu> Soren1: not well, and not easily sometimes
[07:25] <Soren1> Laptop = Gateway 4520 ...............P O S
[07:25] <Soren1> raylu: meaning?
[07:26] <raylu> Soren1: windows binaries and linux binaries are not compatible with each other
[07:26] <Flannel> indus: Upgrades won't take that long this time of year, assuming he's on a reasonable sized connection.  He'll have to download a comperable amount anyway to be up to date on Jaunty.
[07:26] <indus> Flannel: ok ill let him decide now :)
[07:26]  * Soren1 looks at raylu as his brain explodes
[07:26] <darkmillian> Ummm hello
[07:26] <indus> Leomar: wait
[07:26] <raylu> Soren1: wine tries to emulate the windows api, but it's broken here and there and there are always issues running windows apps on not-windows (the filesystem is layed out completely differently, for example). don't worry about running windows apps for now
[07:27] <Ethan``> Flannel: I installed kde on ubuntu. so shouldnt i ask this question on here?
[07:27] <Soren1> that is the 3rd or fourth explosion tonight ;)
[07:27] <badfish69> if i install ubuntu inside windows is it going to run in a vm?
[07:27] <raylu> badfish69: if you install ubuntu inside a windows in a vm, it will run in a vm... your question doesn't make much sense
[07:28] <Flannel> Ethan``: #kubuntu knows more about KDE.  The only difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu is the GUI (they're the same distro).  Obviously your question is KDE specific, and while you're more than welcome to ask your question here, you'll likely have more people who know more about it in #kubuntu
[07:28] <elliotf> Hello all..  I'm having some serious usability issues with ubuntu 8.04 and 9.04 when it comes to disk IO ruining interactivity.  Is this a known issue?  But #131094 does not seem to be getting any attention...
[07:28] <Soren1> why was I using ubiquity to set up my partitions and swap?
[07:28] <lstarnes> badfish69: using wubi?
[07:28] <Ethan``> lol okay
[07:28] <badfish69> yeah
[07:28] <darkmillian> Can any help me?
[07:28] <Ethan``> its just that no one answered me yet, on kubuntu
[07:28] <lstarnes> badfish69: I don't think that's an actual vm
[07:28] <Soren1> is it just a utility?
[07:29] <darkmillian> How can i install flash on 64 bit  ubuntu?
[07:29] <klenix> indus: if i do fresh install it is faster than upgrade, isn't it. But can i still keep my old application?
[07:29] <raylu> elliotf: actually, i have that problem too
[07:29] <elliotf> Soren1, badfish69: I believe it creates a dual-boot solution
[07:29] <indus> klenix: nooooooo
[07:29] <elliotf> raylu, it's really bad.. under very simple operations..
[07:29] <ottoshmi1t> H
[07:29] <indus> klenix: you lose all data with fresh upgrade
[07:29] <badfish69> i can give it a shot i guess
[07:29] <raylu> elliotf: i only have problems when something is reading tons of files
[07:29] <badfish69> worst case i have to reinstall w7
[07:29] <indus> klenix: it formats partition
[07:29] <indus> klenix: i think take flannels advice
[07:30] <raylu> elliotf: you can try ionice, but it didn't do much for me
[07:30] <raylu> badfish69: i don't recommend wubi
[07:30] <elliotf> copying six 1.5gb files across disks makes it grind to a halt
[07:30] <badfish69> why is that?
[07:30] <elliotf> raylu, that's not an option on my servers.
[07:30] <indus> klenix: that way everything you saved remains same
[07:30] <badfish69> oh dear
[07:30] <badfish69> ive already started
[07:30] <elliotf> raylu, have you seen the load average climb when the problem occurs?
[07:30] <raylu> elliotf: didn't pay much attention when it happened. i just tried to ionice it
[07:30] <raylu> elliotf: why isn't ionice an option?
[07:31] <Flannel> klenix: The difference in download sizes is likely something around 700MB.  (700MB more if you upgrade twice)
[07:31] <elliotf> raylu, I *really* don't want to ionice postgres.  :)
[07:31] <elliotf> raylu, it's a server, it should be able to use the CPU and disks at the same time.
[07:31] <raylu> elliotf: ah
[07:33] <Soren1> anyone out there with a lot of patience and good at hand holding wanna help me with increasing the size of the Ubuntu partition, from 10GB to 20GB and making a swap partition? I do not understand Ubuntu at all, and have limited knowledge of Win....
[07:33] <elliotf> raylu, ah, it looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/131094 is getting some attention again
[07:33] <elliotf> yay!
[07:33] <raylu> Soren1: i still think you'd be fine with 10GB for now
[07:33] <Soren1> k
[07:34] <klenix> flannel: indus : if i do fresh install, i will use live cd, it's faster. But i'm worry about my previous setting and application.
[07:34] <indus> klenix: what application?
[07:34] <Soren1> raylu, are you the person described above? lol
[07:34] <Flannel> klenix: you'll overwrite all of them.
[07:34] <Flannel> klenix: Data too.
[07:34] <indus> klenix: yeah flannel is right . You lose all previous data
[07:35] <Ethan``> suspend doesnt seem to work on my system
[07:35] <Ethan``> any help please
[07:35] <RHorse> tonyyarusso did you get answered?
[07:35] <Soren1> lol, guess not
[07:35] <raylu> Soren1: not quite, sorry
[07:35] <Soren1> lol
[07:35] <Soren1> np
[07:36] <raylu> Soren1: but why do you feel 10GB isn't enough?
[07:36] <Siegfried> does anybody knows a console torrent client that supports udp?
[07:36] <|lekarousar|> RHorse: when i lshw -c network: i get unclaimed tags for my NICs. know how to fix that?
[07:36] <Soren1> raylu: I have no idea, I will leave it at whatever it is
[07:36] <klenix> indus: application i installed via terminal or synaptic,
[07:37] <Soren1> raylu: I am not fond of just meeting minimum requirments
[07:37] <oDesk> hello i'm on 9.10, can't use touchpad double click after latest upgrade!!!!
[07:37] <raylu> Soren1: you can increase it later
[07:37] <RHorse> |lekarousar| sorry,  not familiaar w/ that
[07:37] <Soren1> k
[07:38] <Ethan``> hello, how do i get suspend to work on my system. right now the monitor turns off, but cpu keeps running
[07:38] <raylu> Siegfried: deluge... sort of
[07:39] <indus> klenix: dont use a live cd
[07:39] <indus> klenix: upgrade from update-manager
[07:39] <Siegfried> raylu, oh thanks i completely forgot this one, i'll try!
[07:39] <Burlynn> ubuntu 8.10 new install on a laptop intel 945 chipset, normal visual effects, DarkRoom theme option, all my popup notifications are two colors, is this normal? the background is half tan half grey, does not look right
[07:39] <raylu> Siegfried: it's not exactly cli
[07:39] <indus> klenix: from 8.04 to 8.10 then to 9.04
[07:39] <raylu> Siegfried: wait, it does indeed have a console interface
[07:39] <indus> klenix: is that understood?
[07:40] <raylu> Siegfried: but you probably want to use either the gtk or web frontend. the torrent client runs as a daemon and you control it with a client
[07:40] <raylu> Siegfried: at the moment, i have the daemon running on a headless server and i connect to it with the gtk client from here
[07:41] <raylu> !suspend | Ethan``
[07:41] <raylu> :(
[07:41] <Tasbuntu> Hello all, I've been messing with my GRUB settings lately, and although I managed to get a splashscreen on it, the Ubuntu Bootup animation(the loading up bar?) seems to have broken. The bootup is now text based. Is there anyway to fix this?
[07:42] <raylu> Ethan``: suspend has always been sort of hit or miss. not much that you can do about it that i know of
[07:42] <raylu> Tasbuntu: show us the boot line?
[07:42] <Tasbuntu> the boot line? o:
[07:42] <Tasbuntu> Oh dear, I think I stepped into uncharted territory yet again xD; What is the boot line?
[07:43] <barbarian_sargon> hello everyone
[07:43] <klenix> Flannel: indus: if i do with live cd will be faster but i will lost all my previous setting and application. With normal upgrade will be longer for me but save my setting.
[07:43] <Flannel> klenix: I'm not sure an upgrade will really take that much longer.
[07:43] <Tasbuntu> More specifically, I guess I should ask how do I GET to the bootline?
[07:44] <Flannel> klenix: Not that I time them in my spare time.  But the rest of it is correct.  With a reinstall, you get a fresh system, as if nothing had been there before.  With an upgrade, you keep your settings, the other programs you install, your files, etc.
[07:44] <Soren1> I am trying a Dual Boot install...............I am at PreparePartitions........... I see: Device=/dev/sda1 ...........Device:/dev/sda1 Type:ntfs Size:120GB Used 26GB............Device:freespace 11GB
[07:44] <raylu> Tasbuntu: the line that starts with "kernel" is what i meant
[07:44] <RHorse> Tasbuntu F6 when tthe grub menu appears.
[07:44] <barbarian_sargon> yeah, when I upgraded to 9.04, I didn't lose any files or settings
[07:44] <Tasbuntu> Allright. So I go do that, and how do I get you the results exactly?
[07:45] <Tasbuntu> It just copies the whole thing when I do F6?
[07:45] <barbarian_sargon> by that I mean, I upgraded with the upgrade manager
[07:45] <raylu> Tasbuntu: no.. just get it out of your menu.lst
[07:45] <barbarian_sargon> update*
[07:45] <barbarian_sargon> sorry
[07:45] <klenix> Flannel : indus : yes, i 'll  use upgrade. thanks for advice.
[07:45] <Tasbuntu> oh. Allright
[07:46] <chris_> can i please have the name of the best program to extract sequential .rar files (jaunty)
[07:46] <``y7> where can i go into ubuntu to make sure the system isn't going to shutdown or go into sleep mode after x minutes of idle time?
[07:46] <raylu> Burlynn: a screenshot may help
[07:46] <barbarian_sargon> chris, I think ark will work
[07:46] <Ethan``> taylu : suspend used to work fine till i upgraded something
[07:47] <Ethan``> raylu*
[07:47] <raylu> Ethan``: the kernel. try an older version of it
[07:47] <chris_> cool thanks, i haven't installed linux in a while lol, a little rusty..
[07:47] <Ethan``> lool
[07:47] <Tasbuntu> http://pastebin.com/f74e4828a
[07:47] <Tasbuntu>  Here you go guys. Sorry about being so dense, I'm really just learning Ubuntu as I go along xD;
[07:47] <Ethan``> can i get it to work again...do you know anythin
[07:47] <raylu> Ethan``: you probably still have it, actually. aptitude search linux-image
[07:47] <raylu> Ethan``: or ls /boot
[07:48] <raylu> Tasbuntu: do you need vga=795 to boot?
[07:48] <Soren1> brb
[07:49] <Tasbuntu> I...have no idea, frankly. I'm still pretty much lost in terms of coding and the terminal.
[07:50] <Ethan``> thanks, raylu
[07:50] <csaba> how can I play chess over a network?
[07:50] <Tasbuntu> oh, splash vga=795
[07:50] <Tasbuntu> I think that's the splash page for the main menu
[07:50] <csaba> when I click on "Network game" I get a dialog saying profile: disconnected
[07:51] <Tasbuntu> I'm running a Triple boot system, so Grub automatically boots into the menu, hence the splash page.
[07:51] <raylu> Tasbuntu: by default, you only have splash and quiet
[07:51] <raylu> Tasbuntu: so i assume you added vga=795 yourself
[07:52] <tlarson> how do you see what video driver you're using in 9.04? xorg.conf doesn't contain anything useful
[07:52] <Tasbuntu> Well, I don't recall having personally opened the menu.lst and edited THIS, but I used start-up manager to customize the grub menu, so possibly that could have done it, yes
[07:52] <Soren1> I am trying a Dual Boot install...............I am at PreparePartitions........... Device=/dev/sda1 ...........Device:/dev/sda1 Type:ntfs Size:120GB Used 26GB............Device:freespace 11GB................. what is the next step
[07:52] <raylu> tlarson: glxinfo or xdpyinfo may be of help
[07:52] <raylu> Tasbuntu: i'd take out vga=795 from defoptions and then run "sudo update-grub"
[07:53] <Tasbuntu> Allright, I'll try that, thank you
[07:53] <Tasbuntu> what about initrd, though?
[07:53] <raylu> Tasbuntu: what about it?
[07:53] <Tasbuntu> Well, you said only splash and quiet were there by default, didn't you?
[07:54] <raylu> Tasbuntu: initrd is on its own line
[07:54] <Tasbuntu> Ah, allright O:
[07:54] <Tasbuntu> Thank you
[07:54] <raylu> Tasbuntu: that specifies the strange strange ramfs thingy
[07:54] <raylu> which i have yet to understand
[07:54] <Tasbuntu> xD' Then I clearly have no hopes of that yet
[07:54] <KitNezumi> I'm installing netbook remix via GUI on an Eee 1000 HE. I shortened the Windows partition as well as the backup partition to make room for the upcoming Ubuntu partition. However, now I'm stuck with two seperate chunks of unpartitioned space marked "unusable." I'm kind of at a loss of what I should do next.
[07:55] <Tasbuntu> I'll go try what you said, thank you :3
[07:55] <Soren1> is there a dual boot channel that would be better to go to?
[07:56] <raylu> Soren1: not really
[07:56] <nibsa1242> I have a user that likes to keep many folders open in Nautilus, including folders where she is downloading files with  Bit Torrent. This causes Nautilus to constantly update the thumbnails and use 60% CPU power. How can I set Nautilus not to update thumbnails unless user presses refresh?
[07:56] <raylu> KitNezumi: what says its unusable?
[07:56] <Soren1> raylu: ok, I'll check back later for help
[07:56] <KitNezumi> raylu: the term "unusable" appears under the device column for the two presumably now-empty spaces
[07:57] <raylu> Soren1: the next step is to create a 1gb swap and 10gb ext3 partition. isn't there na option to do that automatically?
[07:57] <raylu> KitNezumi: in the installer?
[07:57] <tlarson> raylu: do you think that if the [OpenGL version string] is "1.4 Mesa 7.4
[07:57] <cirolinux> Salve
[07:57] <KitNezumi> raylu: yes, in the installer
[07:57] <tlarson> raylu: would that mean that i'm running the generic mesa drivers?
[07:58] <barbarian_sargon> hey guys, does anyone know a script for installing gtk gnutella through terminal? I have tried sudo apt get install gtk gnutella, and I have tried to install it through add or remove programs, but its always the old version, and it will not work. before I re-installed ubuntu, my friend helped me install it, he told me step by step the script
[07:58] <barbarian_sargon> I was just wondering if anyone else knew
[07:58] <raylu> KitNezumi: this is the netbook installer right? you can't really run any apps, can you?
[07:59] <raylu> tlarson: i have no idea, sorry. try grepping for driver names. also, if you haven't modified your xorg.conf, X -configure may be revealing
[07:59] <tlarson> raylu: thanks
[07:59] <KitNezumi> raylu: i'm not sure if i'm understanding you correctly. this is the installer that i ran from the desktop when running URN in liveCD mode
[08:00] <raylu> KitNezumi: urn = ?
[08:00] <KitNezumi> raylu: sorry. Ubuntu Netbook Remix (got the acronym wrong). I did manage to run some applications in LiveCD mode
[08:00] <e-1> barbarian_sargon, try #gtk-gnutella
[08:00] <barbarian_sargon> ok, thanks
[08:00] <raylu> KitNezumi: oh. my only experience with it has been a friend running the installer. i do remember the other option, but we never tried it
[08:01] <raylu> KitNezumi: i'd close the installer and run "gksu gparted"
[08:01] <plaseo> how to make the folders in places display as a menu?
[08:01] <raylu> KitNezumi: i never really liked the installer's partitioner
[08:01] <KitNezumi> raylu: i'll give it a shot. thank you.
[08:02] <raylu> nibsa1242: you can disable thumbnails in the preferences, apparently
[08:02] <Tasbuntu> O: Well, I'm back
[08:03] <Tasbuntu> Raylu, thanks for the tip, deleting that line didnt hurt anything so it removed some useless coding from Grub, however it didn't fix my problem.
[08:03] <nibsa1242> raylu the thumbnails would be ok, but I don't see why it needs to constantly update them and heat up the computer and kill the performance
[08:04] <plaseo> ?
[08:04] <raylu> nibsa1242: you could run nautilus with a high nice. but things like that are the reason i avoid guis :P
[08:04] <raylu> Tasbuntu: er... show me your menu.lst now?
[08:05] <barbarian_sargon> so is anyone running the new 9.04?
[08:05] <Tasbuntu> I am. It runs pretty much fine on my system.
[08:05] <Tasbuntu> http://pastebin.com/f2a5d1872
[08:06] <barbarian_sargon> yeah, I like it
[08:06] <Tasbuntu> Except when I screw up ie right now
[08:06] <nibsa1242> raylu: it already runs at nice 19 on my system, but its constant running then causes massive amounts of swapping and slow down.
[08:06] <barbarian_sargon> I kinda want 8.04 back on here, but my cd drive wont read burnt or blank discs for some reason
[08:06] <Tasbuntu> Also raylu, pastebin link is back up there. http://pastebin.com/f2a5d1872
[08:06] <Tasbuntu> repost
[08:06] <barbarian_sargon> lol, I know exactly what you mean tasbuntu
[08:07] <raylu> nibsa1242: that sounds related to elliotf's issue earlier.
[08:07] <nibsa1242> raylu: its not my issue... I just use the terminal, but one of the users in my house is having this issue because she won't close nautilus windows.
[08:07] <zethero1> installed Ubuntu Jaunty on my T30 Thinkpad and now have no sound
[08:07] <Tasbuntu> xD Oh, I rather enjoy the whole mess. Plus I'm learning a bit more pretty much all the time.
[08:07] <barbarian_sargon> zethero1, you might need oem audo drivers
[08:07] <hskill> how do i install all the C programming man pages?
[08:08] <plaseo> how to make the folders in places display as a menu?
[08:08] <hskill> i dont even have a man page for malloc()
[08:08] <cyberjorge> does ubuntu 8.10 support the ttyS3 by default?
[08:08] <raylu> Tasbuntu: hrm. no idea then. by the way, the next time the kernel gets upgraded, update-grub is going to be run and vga=795 will be added back in because you didn't remove it from defoptions
[08:08] <barbarian_sargon> I have a friend who is great with linux, he has been teaching me a little bit here and there
[08:08] <Tasbuntu> O; How do I update that?
[08:08] <raylu> hskill: manpages-posix-dev
[08:08] <raylu> Tasbuntu: look for defoptions in menu.lst
[08:08] <Tasbuntu> Allright
[08:09] <Tasbuntu> By the way, is the bootup animation screen even related to Grub?
[08:09] <raylu> Tasbuntu: not really
[08:09] <zethero1> barbarian_sargon: why? it was working perfectly in 7.10
[08:09] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: that's usplash
[08:09] <Tasbuntu> I'm talking about the animations with the bars that fill up and empty out on bootup/shutdown
[08:09] <Tasbuntu> Well, that's been my problem all along, so no wonder xD;
[08:09] <raylu> zethero1: pulseaudio has been introduced since then
[08:09] <hskill> raylu what about just 'manpages-dev'?
[08:09] <dyf> hello.. how do i control which processes start up when i boot ubuntu?
[08:10] <raylu> dyf: update-rc.d
[08:10] <nibsa1242> raylu: ok so I told it to only show thumbnails of files less than 100kb, testing to see if it'll listen
[08:10] <barbarian_sargon> I am not sure zethero1, I was just making a suggestion. I would like to help you further, but alas, I am but a learner myself
[08:10] <sleepy_cat> i wanted some help with XIRR and IRR is there a community here that can help me with that ?
[08:10] <Tasbuntu> So, how do I edit usplash settings?
[08:10] <drewlahooz> dyf: Try  System>Pref>Startup Applications
[08:10] <Tasbuntu> Or reset usplash to default?
[08:10] <hermanChess> How can I effectively replace swfdec with the non free plugin? I don't like how it is displayed, and the volume bar doesn't work on videos.
[08:10] <raylu> hskill: manpages-posix-dev suggests it, so it should pull it in
[08:10] <hermanChess> In firefox....
[08:11] <raylu> hskill: but yeah, you actually want manpages-dev
[08:11] <nibsa1242> raylu: nope, stupid thing is still indexing >300MB files
[08:11] <plaseo> dyf: Install ubuntu tweak
[08:11] <zethero1> raylu: argh
[08:11] <dyf> drewlahooz: i'm on fluxbox, do you know the command to start that application?
[08:12] <dyf> plaseo: the name sounds scary
[08:12] <nibsa1242> raylu: ok turned off thumnails, now it seems ok
[08:12] <dyf> i don't wanna mess up my system, just turn off a few processes at start up
[08:12] <raylu> nibsa1242: <100k didn't work?
[08:12] <drewlahooz> dyf: No, I'm sorry
[08:12] <raylu> dyf: login or bootup?
[08:12] <plaseo> dyf: just moved from windows to ubuntu not scary at all, its a great program with many functions
[08:12] <nibsa1242> raylu: no, it didn't listen OR was polling the files to see how large they were
[08:12] <Tasbuntu> Uh, guys, if I install splashy will it uninstall usplash completely or do I get to choose between the two?
[08:12] <dyf> raylu: boot up, like i wanna turn of cups cuz i don't have a printer
[08:13] <cyberjorge> does ubuntu 8.10 support the ttys4 (=COM5) by default?
[08:13] <dyf> i wanna make my system lighter basically
[08:13] <raylu> dyf: update-rc.d -f cupsd remove
[08:13] <nibsa1242> raylu: remember we are talking about a Bit Torrent download folder, so the files are constantly changing in size as they grow
[08:13] <dyf> raylu: can i list what i can remove with update-rc.d?
[08:13] <raylu> nibsa1242: they shouldn't. good clients will pre-allocate
[08:14] <raylu> dyf: ls /etc/init.d
[08:14] <dyf> raylu: cool, thanks
[08:14] <raylu> dyf: i'm not sure the command i gave you was entirely correct; not in ubuntu at the moment
[08:14] <barbarian_sargon> is ubuntu 7.04 and 7.10 lts?
[08:14] <cyberjorge> does ubuntu 8.10 support the "ttys4 (=COM5)" by default?
[08:14] <nibsa1242> raylu: that would be nice, but transmission doesn't do it that way... and that is what is on her computer
[08:14] <raylu> dyf: but the manpage/help is short
[08:14] <raylu> nibsa1242: transmission is... kinda fail
[08:15] <plaseo> how to make the folders in places display as a menu?
[08:15] <raylu> barbarian_sargon: nope. sorry
[08:15] <barbarian_sargon> I was just wondering
[08:15] <barbarian_sargon> so 8.04 is pretty much the only lts version out right now?
[08:15] <nibsa1242> raylu: its the default app, that is what she is using... I get get something else and install it, for the future.
[08:15] <raylu> barbarian_sargon: i believe there's only ever one lts out
[08:15] <zethero1> raylu: but I still see ALSA here ...
[08:15] <raylu> zethero1: yep.
[08:16] <barbarian_sargon> when was 7.04 and 7.10 released?
[08:16] <raylu> zethero1: my understanding is pulseaudio->alsa->...stuff
[08:16] <cyberjorge> ok i'll change my question:
[08:16] <raylu> barbarian_sargon: 04/07 and 10/07, of course
[08:16] <barbarian_sargon> ok. I was just wondering
[08:16] <cyberjorge> how do I re-compile kernel to support multi-com-port including COM 5?
[08:16] <barbarian_sargon> I get it now
[08:17] <raylu> !kernel | cyberjorge
[08:17] <barbarian_sargon> im a noobie
[08:17] <raylu> barbarian_sargon: it's ok. i think the version numbering is horrible and confusing
[08:17] <cyberjorge> raylu: thanks for that, and for the warning, but this is my only chance to make my device to run
[08:18] <raylu> cyberjorge: good luck
[08:18] <Tasbuntu> Uh, how do I install Splashy?
[08:18] <cyberjorge> raylu: by the way do you have an idea if "ttys4 (=COM5)" is supported by default in 8.10
[08:18] <raylu> Tasbuntu: usplash?
[08:18] <raylu> cyberjorge: no idea, sorry :P
[08:18] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: why do you want splashy?
[08:18] <cyberjorge> :(
[08:19] <nebundelegat_> ciao all
[08:19] <sleepy_cat> anyone can help me with XIRR vs IRR methods and how to calculate them i
[08:19] <Tasbuntu> Well, you know the uSplash bar thing when Ubuntu is booting up?
[08:19] <nibsa1242> raylu: what do you think of deluge? I think I used that in the past but can't remember... too many BT clients
[08:19] <Tasbuntu> Well, that broke and now the bootup is text based for some reason.
[08:20] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: okay, installing splashy isn't going to fix that
[08:20] <raylu> nibsa1242: i use it currently :D
[08:20] <Tasbuntu> O:
[08:20] <Tasbuntu> Damn
[08:20] <Tasbuntu> Dont suppose you know what would?
[08:20] <raylu> nibsa1242: but i have a machine that runs all the time and torrents. i use this machine to control it, so deluge fits my needs
[08:20] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: haha, I don't sorry :)
[08:20] <barbarian_sargon> do you guys call windows winblows?
[08:20] <ziroday> barbarian_sargon: no
[08:20] <Tasbuntu> 'Daw
[08:20] <barbarian_sargon> my friend who taught me about ubuntu does
[08:21] <raylu> nibsa1242: also, it sorts torrents by tracker domain, something nothing else does. transmission sorts them the worst of all, though
[08:21] <Tasbuntu> Barbarian, it's called fanaticism. It's a common basis people use for not having to think.
[08:21] <raylu> Tasbuntu: thinking is overrated
[08:22] <Tasbuntu> Maybe so
[08:22] <Tasbuntu> Anyway; I don't suppose anyone does know how to fix the bootup animations?
[08:22] <qubits> lolcopter
[08:23] <qubits> penguin pride
[08:23] <ziroday> qubits: can we help you with something?
[08:23] <plaseo> how to make the folders in places display as a menu?
[08:23] <qubits> Sure man
[08:23] <qubits> You can bring back my titlebars
[08:24] <ziroday> plaseo: open the file manager, drag the folder you want onto the places area
[08:24] <tecky> less is more, but more is more than more is, so more is less than less, so use more less if you want less more
[08:24] <ziroday> qubits: do metacity --replace
[08:24] <qubits> No effect
[08:24] <ziroday> tecky: thank you for that, #ubuntu-offtopic for other such insights :)
[08:24] <ziroday> qubits: errors
[08:24] <plaseo> folders are there that i want, i want them to display subfolders in a menu tree
[08:25] <Zephryos> Ello peoples, need some help with my laptop if anyone is avaliable and wanting to assist.
[08:25] <ziroday> plaseo: ah, you can't do that sorry
[08:25] <ziroday> Zephryos: sure! Please just explain whats not working :)
[08:25] <Tasbuntu> Uh, so, can I ask if there's a channel specifically for Ubuntu for Mac users? Or a channel for Grub or other bootup programs?
[08:26] <plaseo> ziroday: thank you, its on my wish list
[08:26] <raylu> !mac
[08:26] <KitNezumi> raylu: thank you for recommending gparted. I managed to arrange my partitions exactly as needed easily and with no fuss at all.
[08:26] <raylu> ...what..
[08:26] <raylu> KitNezumi: :D
[08:26] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: neither that I know of, but you can browse help.ubuntu.com or ubuntuforums.org whilst you wait
[08:26] <Tasbuntu> xD, well! Thanks, Raylu. Also, allright, thank you
[08:27] <NvidiaUser> Tasbuntu There is a Linux Channel at #linux
[08:27] <Tasbuntu> ..wha?
[08:27] <ziroday> plaseo: you can create an idea at brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[08:27] <NvidiaUser> On IRC
[08:27] <nebundelegat_> care vb romaneste aici:D
[08:27] <Tasbuntu> Yes, but, how does that apply to Macs specifically, or Bootup programs?
[08:27] <jetsaredim> is there a way to adjust the audio track offset in totem?
[08:27] <nebundelegat_> care vb romaneste aici:D
[08:27] <NvidiaUser> Tasubuntu they may be able to help more with grub specifically.
[08:28] <Tasbuntu> Oh, allright. Thank you, Nvidia! xD
[08:28] <NvidiaUser> Tasubuntu or know of more channels NP :)
[08:28] <barbarian_sargon> I am gonna have to start coming in here from now on. I wanna learn how to use ubuntu more. I mean, I know how to use it, I would like to learn how to compile/program more
[08:28] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: can you please pastebin you're /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:28] <barbarian_sargon> I am joining the military in 4 months, and it would give me something to do until then
[08:29] <Zephryos> Alright, tiny bit o' back story and the condition of the laptop... I'm just wanting to use the laptop for IM's and doing my college assignments around the house. The laptop is a Compaq Presario 2500 (2003), the system seems to "fry" HD's and it has no internal CD-Rom drive nor floppeh. I'm wanting to make this be able to boot off my 2GB USB Drive. Right now I have an external CD Drive which I used to load up Ubuntu 9.04. Questi
[08:29] <ziroday> barbarian_sargon: compiling and programming are two very different things :)
[08:29] <raylu> !it | nebundelegat_
[08:29] <ziroday> Zephryos: you're question got cut off
[08:29] <raylu> barbarian_sargon: more? what can you code in now? also, this isn't really the place to learn to code
[08:29] <barbarian_sargon> ziroday: ok, I just mean't I would like to learn how to program and compile
[08:30] <Zephryos> Nope it didn't, I just forgot to put a ? instead of a .  <_< 2:30AM here :P
[08:30] <barbarian_sargon> well, not really code raylu, I can compile, that's about it
[08:30] <ziroday> barbarian_sargon: sure, we can help you with both. If you want to program python is a good starting language. For compiling see
[08:30] <ziroday> !compile | barbarian_sargon see
[08:30] <Colonel_Bear> I have 8.04
[08:30] <aaditya> !ot
[08:30] <raylu> barbarian_sargon: though python was the last language i learned, others have recommend that you use python as your first programming language
[08:30] <Colonel_Bear> and want to upgrade
[08:31] <raylu> but yeah, this is offtopic
[08:31] <barbarian_sargon> ok, thanks raylu
[08:31] <parapanghelescu> Hi there fellows ......I'll ask you again - does someone know an editor of pdf files ? - smth like Acrobat for linux ????
[08:31] <ziroday> Zephryos: you're question got cut off, can you repeat everything below I used to load up Ubuntu 9.04. Questi please
[08:31] <Colonel_Bear>  I have 8.04 and want to upgrade, but when I go to update manager it does not appear
[08:31] <Zephryos> Question is, how can I make it to where I can run it without having to take my big arse external drive around with me and just use the 2GB USB Drive?
[08:31] <jetsaredim> parapanghelescu: do you mean a pdf creator or something to edit already created pdfs?
[08:31] <Debolaz> Turns out I was able to solve most of my graphics performance issues with 9.04 by downgrading the nvidia driver from 180 to 173.
[08:31] <gharz> guys i have 1 folder and inside the folder i've got 100 folders... and inside this 100 folders i have file names that start with dot (.)... how do i recursively delete this files with dot? these files with dot are not important. please help
[08:32] <ziroday> Colonel_Bear: go to Software Sources > Updates > Show new distribution releases > Normal releases
[08:32] <parapanghelescu> jetsaredim > to edit smth is created yes,
[08:32] <parapanghelescu> used pdfedit .....but with no great luck ...:(
[08:32] <Viking667> parapanghelescu: you may be out of luck.
[08:32] <ziroday> Zephryos: use the USB startup disk creator
[08:32] <Viking667> Even Acrobat actually works with source files, then builds that into a pdf.
[08:32] <jetsaredim> parapanghelescu: not sure of anything like that - unless there are some online tools
[08:33] <gharz> any one?
[08:33] <parapanghelescu> Viking; jetsaredim > hmmmmm so what should I do ? use windows instead ???
[08:34] <M3nelvagor> anybody here know something about partitioning with ubuntu?
[08:34] <Viking667> parapanghelescu: you could perhaps use your legally purchased copy of Acrobat under wine or crossover-office.
[08:34] <ajhtiredwolf> gharz, something along the lines of rm .* -r i would assume
[08:34] <Colonel_Bear> thank you
[08:34] <qubits> its not doing anything
[08:34] <cyberjorge> is "#cat /proc/tty/driver/serial" a command in the terminal?
[08:34] <Zephryos> There any specific webpage that will have what I need?
[08:34] <Viking667> without the #, yes.
[08:35] <ct529> hi everybody .... is it possible to run Mac software under ubuntu?
[08:35] <cyberjorge> thanks Viking667
[08:35] <NvidiaUser>  First, I'd like to know if there's an iRC channel that deals with Ubuntu on Macs specifically, and secondly, I need some help with the bootup and shutdown animations in Ubuntu: Basically I've managed to kill them both, so now both bootup and shutdown are text based. I'd like to know if there's a way to fix this. I'm running Ubuntu Jaunty, Grub and Usplash.
[08:35] <parapanghelescu> but ....wine is the emulator right ? I'll install wine, install Windows, legal copy, then install Adobe Acrobat
[08:35] <Viking667> parapanghelescu: ah, no.
[08:35] <ziroday> NvidiaUser: ?
[08:35] <Viking667> If you're going to install legal copy of Windows, then you ACTUALLY want VMware or Virtualbox.
[08:35] <NvidiaUser> Idk it's for Tasubuntu
[08:35] <ziroday> NvidiaUser: why are you repasting what other people have said?
[08:35] <parapanghelescu> viking > cool
[08:35] <Tasbuntu> Oh, thanks Nvidia o:
[08:36] <ziroday> NvidiaUser: please don't do that
[08:36] <ajhtiredwolf> parapanghelescu, wine will emulate windows programs, but why do you need to install acrobat reader? there are plenty of much better pdf reader programs for linux
[08:36] <Tasbuntu> He's helping me, actually
[08:36] <sleepy_cat> ca n someone help me with IIR and XIRR ?
[08:36] <NvidiaUser> ziroday oh I thought he didn't say that sorry ;O
[08:36] <Viking667> parapanghelescu: virtualbox is free, and VMware provide VMware server for free.
[08:36] <ajhtiredwolf> parapanghelescu, acrobat reader is not recommended to be used by windows users either as it is a huge security hole for viruses
[08:36] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: I asked before if you could pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:36] <Viking667> ajhtiredwolf: he actually wants to use Acrobat, not just the reader.
[08:36] <Tasbuntu> I did, hang on, lemme do it again
[08:36] <sleepy_cat> in financial calculations.. i want to know whats the difference between both of them and how to go about them ?
[08:36] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: and please address, that way I'm not going to miss it :)
[08:37] <parapanghelescu> ajhtiredwolf > so wine provides already the medium ....emulation for windows  ....I need to write/modify pdf files ....
[08:37] <shengton> Where's the Multimedia Systems Selector in Xubuntu?
[08:37] <ziroday> sleepy_cat: we can't help you with that here
[08:37] <ziroday> shengton: ask in #xubuntu
[08:37] <Tasbuntu> ziroday: http://pastebin.com/f78b81c2d
[08:37] <cyberjorge> is it safe to add "8250.nr_uarts=6" to end of the kernel command line in /boot/grub/menu.list file to add new port?
[08:37] <Viking667> parapanghelescu: wine provides SOME of the DLL calls that programs make under Windows.
[08:37] <Tasbuntu> Sorry and thanks xD
[08:37] <sleepy_cat> ziroday:  any idea if there in a comm on IRC which can ?
[08:37] <v_a_n> v_a_n
[08:37] <Tasbuntu> Also, thanks again Nvidiauser, you've been amazingly helpful
[08:37] <parapanghelescu> viking > know the programs / already worked with VirtualBOX - looks kinda' neat and it's light ....
[08:37] <ziroday> sleepy_cat: nope
[08:38] <M3nelvagor> So I deleted the final 28 GB partition of windows on my laptop. Now I want to use it as an extra partition where I can put my data for my thesis on. But when I use the partition editor and delete + make new one, it doesn't load automatically and is only for root. Any help?
[08:38] <sleepy_cat> oh ok
[08:38] <ajhtiredwolf> parapanghelescu, if you find a program that will not install within ubuntu you can emulate an operating system as a guest os ( like xp ) through virtualbox
[08:38] <cyberjorge> Viking667: got an idea?
[08:38] <parapanghelescu> Viking > understand ....is wine under repository or Ubuntu 9.04 ???
[08:38] <Viking667> cyberjorge: no idea, sorry.
[08:38] <Viking667> parapanghelescu: I _think_ it's in multiverse.
[08:38] <NvidiaUser> Tasubuntu: I have? :O
[08:38] <Viking667> Not sure, though.
[08:38] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: on line 138 can you append the word splash please
[08:38] <cyberjorge> hmmm...
[08:39] <Viking667> Tasbuntu: ... if splash isn't already there
[08:39] <Tasbuntu> How do I go about doing that?
[08:39] <parapanghelescu> ajhtiredwolf> know that but .....I'm kinda stressed out about the space on "/" ...I have only 300 Mb of free space ......
[08:39] <Viking667> Tasbuntu: you use an editor.
[08:39] <ziroday> !fstab | M3nelvagor add it here to have it mounted automatically at boot
[08:39] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:39] <Viking667> parapanghelescu: ouch. That's not a lot of space any more.
[08:40] <ajhtiredwolf> parapanghelescu, check the site winhq.com and look in the appdb ( application database) to see if that program runs well with your current distribution under wine
[08:40] <ziroday> Zephryos: please don't pm :). The USB creator is shipped by default in 8.10 and above
[08:40] <ct529> hi everybody .... is it possible to run Mac software under ubuntu?
[08:40] <ajhtiredwolf> parapanghelescu, there you can also find suggestions to get it running properly if it is possible
[08:40] <nmvictor>  M3nelvagor: why do you want it to load automatically,once its a new partion other than root(/) and swap then it cant load automatically.make a logical drive out of it
[08:40] <NvidiaUser> Tasubuntu: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:40] <parapanghelescu> ajhtiredwolf > cool thanks for the tip bro'
[08:40] <ajhtiredwolf> parapanghelescu, de nada
[08:40] <|lekarousar|> how do i find which package is broken?
[08:41] <Tasbuntu> Allright, I'm here
[08:41] <parapanghelescu> viking ....> I forgot the command for checking the free space on my partitions ? do you know-it ??
[08:41] <NvidiaUser> Tasubuntu just add a space after that line and type splash
[08:41] <Viking667> |lekarousar|: I've no idea what on earth "unclaimed dags" means.
[08:41] <Viking667> df
[08:41] <Tasbuntu> Allright
[08:41] <farciarz84> hi
[08:41] <Viking667> parapanghelescu: df
[08:41] <magnetron> Hi! i get a security warning when trying to install the package "crank" from the official repo, looks like the package is unsigned. is this normal?
[08:41] <farciarz84> where can I put my aliases?
[08:41] <nmvictor> farciarz84: hi
[08:42] <Tasbuntu> root=UUID=f27d96f7-7fd5-4e32-9e7d-97a3709edffd ro quiet
[08:42] <Tasbuntu> splash
[08:42] <Tasbuntu> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-11-generic
[08:42] <Tasbuntu> like this?
[08:42] <FloodBot2> Tasbuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:42] <M3nelvagor> nmvictor: don't now what you mean. I just formated it to ext4 and went on from that point :-)
[08:42] <nmvictor> magnetron: whats the message of the warning
[08:42] <|lekarousar|> Tasbuntu: that wont' work on lilo
[08:42] <Viking667> Tasbuntu: no... root=UUID=f27d96f7-7fd5-4e32-9e7d-97a3709edffd ro quiet splash
[08:42] <Zephryos> ziroday: Eh sorry, 2nd time using irc... where bouts? I have the live disc goign and the USB drive is connected. Do I do a search or?
[08:42] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: no, append the word splash to line 138 (the kernel line) just after quiet
[08:42] <Tasbuntu> Ah, allright
[08:42] <NvidiaUser> Tasubuntu the end should be: quiet splash
[08:43] <ziroday> Zephryos: System > Administration > USB Disk Creator (and no worries)
[08:43] <farciarz84> where is a login script in ubuntu?
[08:43]  * Viking667 removes splash from his systems. That way he can peruse kernel messages to see if there are issues on bootup.
[08:43] <ajhtiredwolf> magnetron, ziroday that application has big problems in 9.04
[08:43] <nmvictor> M3nelvagor:please let me PM you on this
[08:43] <farciarz84> sth like bash_profile or .profile
[08:43] <Viking667> farciarz84: check out in /etc/
[08:43] <Tasbuntu> there, done
[08:43] <ziroday> ajhtiredwolf: pardon?
[08:43] <M3nelvagor> nmvictor: ok
[08:43] <Viking667> farciarz84: there's /etc/rc.d
[08:43] <magnetron> nmvictor: it's a message from aptitude in Swedish. it says the package is "not authenticated"
[08:43] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: save the file and reboot
[08:43] <farciarz84> tnx
[08:43] <Tasbuntu> Allright, thank you
[08:44] <ajhtiredwolf> ziroday, usb disk creator is not functioning well in ubuntu 9.04
[08:44] <magnetron> ajhtiredwolf: ok, do you know any alternative crypto puzzle solver?
[08:44] <ziroday> ajhtiredwolf: works fine here
[08:44] <parapanghelescu> viking > looks like the / has only 2% free space >>> what can I do to free some space ???
[08:44] <bc> Viking667: I read a book once called "How I gave up reading init messages and learned to love the boot splash" -- I give it 5 stars
[08:44] <Zephryos> I feel like this is going to be a world of headaches and confusion lol, just cuz Microsofts name isnt stamped all over everything :- | is that normal?
[08:44] <ajhtiredwolf> ziroday, unetbootin is a better choice for most 9.04 users rigt now
[08:44] <Viking667> bc: no doubt written by the guy who wrote the Windows boot animation
[08:45] <ajhtiredwolf> magnetron, sorry that messages was supposed to go to someone else :P
[08:45] <ajhtiredwolf> magnetron, what was your question?
[08:45] <bc> Viking667: lol. In all seriousness though, unless you suspect something is wrong, I wouldn't bother. unless you know _everything_, chances are it'll just make you go bald.
[08:45] <ziroday> Zephryos: okay, sorry. There are multiple ways to get Ubuntu to run off a thumb drive. One of those is the USB Startup Disk Creator which is installed by default, another one is unetbootin. You can use whichever one you want
[08:45] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> how to stop drop shadow effect on gnome minimize?
[08:45] <magnetron> ajhtiredwolf: i get a security warning when trying to install the package "crank" from the official repo, looks like the package is unsigned. is this normal?
[08:45] <Burlynn> anyone running an ati 3200 okay under jaunty with the catalyst drivers?
[08:45] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> please help me
[08:45] <nmvictor> magnetron: sometimes its normal but incase something wrong happens you will have to remove it
[08:46] <rohan> is there any way to get the logout option back in the system menu on ubuntu 9.04? it's irritating to have to go the top right corner and hunt for it every time
[08:46] <ziroday> [DeViL_KiLLs]: install ccsm and disable/change that animation
[08:46] <ajhtiredwolf> magnetron, and you are sure it is from the official repo?
[08:46]  * Viking667 steps back out
[08:46] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> ziroday: hug :) thanks man
[08:46] <ajhtiredwolf> magnetron, also what is the warning you are getting?
[08:46] <NvidiaUser> Zephryos In my opinnion: At first I didn't like Ubuntu because it wasn't windows and after using it a while I got used to it and now I like it :)
[08:46] <bc> Viking667: also maybe install something like logwatch or logcheck.
[08:46] <Jason404> I have just installed ubuntu, but have no mouse (hyper-v vm, on headless server) I am trying to install freenx, so I can use it properly. how do I navigate without mouse? how do I brin up terminal, etc
[08:47] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> E: Couldn't find package ccsm
[08:47] <ziroday> Jason404: press ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a VT
[08:47] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> what is the full name of package
[08:47] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> ?
[08:47] <ziroday> [DeViL_KiLLs]: the package name is compizconfig-settings-manager
[08:47] <Jason404> ziroday: thanks
[08:47] <ziroday> Jason404: have fun!
[08:47] <Jason404> cheers
[08:47] <bc> [DeViL_KiLLs]: apt-cache search ccsm
[08:47] <AMAR_> HAI
[08:47] <magnetron> nmvictor: ajhtiredwolf: yes, i only use the official repos. the exact warning is in Swedish, i don't think you want that, but it's the regular warning about the package not being authenticated/being unsigned
[08:48] <bc> AMAR_: o hai
[08:48] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> hihi thanks i will try now
[08:48] <ajhtiredwolf> magnetron, what does the program do?
[08:48] <AMAR_> hello
[08:48] <farciarz84> ok I have a alias xxx which is a<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-- why it is not working using ssh xxx
[08:48] <ziroday> magnetron: best idea would be to try a different repo and talk to the mirror hosters :)
[08:48] <magnetron> ajhtiredwolf: it's a crypto puzzle solver. Vigenére crypto and similar.
[08:48] <bc> farciarz84: stick it in ~/.ssh/config or /etc/hosts
[08:49] <magnetron> ziroday: i'll try that.
[08:49] <bc> farciarz84: and maybe go with bash_completion
[08:49] <ajhtiredwolf> magnetron, i do see it in the official repos, i would assume it's ok but i would go with ziroday's suggestion
[08:49] <farciarz84> bc what is bash_completion?
[08:50] <magnetron> ajhtiredwolf: can you install it without warnings?
[08:50] <bc> farciarz84: tab then auto-completes most arguments, hostnames, etc
[08:50] <farciarz84> how to get benefit in this case from that
[08:50] <ajhtiredwolf> magnetron, the warnings are preventing you from installing it ?
[08:50] <farciarz84> but when I should put the gost?
[08:50] <farciarz84> host
[08:50] <ziroday> magnetron: yeah, if another repo doesn't have that error then your best bet is to get hold of your mirror providers, your loco would probably know how to get hold of them (but then you already know that :))
[08:50] <farciarz84> when/where
[08:50] <Tasbuntu> Thanks guys, but that didn't work o:
[08:50] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> not work..  the effect is come with gnome..it is not from compize
[08:51] <NvidiaUser> Tasubuntu you should repost your menu.lst
[08:51] <ajhtiredwolf> magcius, in that case you can either look for a .deb package, or you can try and install it from source, or you can try and find a different software source containing it
[08:51] <cyberjorge> can anyone help me apply this guide to ubuntu 8.10?
[08:51] <cyberjorge> http://www.versalogic.com/kb/KB.asp?KBID=1550 Configure Bootloader (GRUB) section
[08:51] <ziroday> [DeViL_KiLLs]: ah with gnome then I think you're stuck. You might be able to find a way to disable it in gconf
[08:51] <ajhtiredwolf> magnetron, , in that case you can either look for a .deb package, or you can try and install it from source, or you can try and find a different software source containing it
[08:51] <NvidiaUser> Tasubuntu sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:51] <Tasbuntu> http://pastebin.com/f21b529c7
[08:51] <prathamesh> hi guys, there is one application blueproximity its for what? whats the use of that.
[08:51] <Jason404> as I do not need more than two remote connections, would using the free edition of nx server be better in any way than using freenx?
[08:51] <Tasbuntu> There
[08:52] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> where is gconf .. i will read the file
[08:52] <bc> farciarz84: echo '<IP_ADDRESS> foo' >> /etc/hosts, then use ssh user@foo. then add `Host foo` and `User bar` in ~/.ssh/config to be able to just `ssh foo`
[08:52] <NvidiaUser> Tasubuntu and you selected the right option at startup?
[08:52] <ziroday> prathamesh: if the bluetooth device comes in proximity of the bluetooth reciever blueproximity automatically unlocks the machine
[08:52] <nmvictor> magnetron:does that bar you from installing the package anyway?
[08:52] <Tasbuntu> I should note I'm not sure Grub is the program responsible for said animations. Some people have said it's usplash
[08:52] <Tasbuntu> Yes
[08:52] <Tasbuntu> It boots normally, it's simple text based
[08:53] <Tasbuntu> simply*
[08:53] <prathamesh> ziroday : i tried it but its not working properly
[08:53] <Zephryos> Ziroday: Alright the USB Drive is now basically a "Live CD"? It just brought up the same startup stuff as the live CD. Which option do I chose? "Try Ubuntu" "install Ubuntu" "Boot rom First HD" (the only HD on this IS the USB Drive...)
[08:53] <bc> farciarz84: man 5 ssh_config
[08:53] <NvidiaUser> Tasubuntu It looks like your right. Usplash controls the bot screen
[08:54] <ziroday> Zephryos: Try Ubuntu
[08:54] <nmvictor> d
[08:54] <Zephryos> Will I need to do this every time I run it?
[08:54] <[MindVirus]> Every time I update, I always see hipo in a list of packages that have been held back. Can I fix this?
[08:54] <farciarz84> bc I don;t have such file like ~/.ssh/config it's only known_hosts.conf
[08:54] <barbarian_sargon> well everyone, take care
[08:54] <bc> farciarz84: create it
[08:54] <barbarian_sargon> I am going to bed
[08:54] <magnetron> nmvictor: maybe you're not aware of the purpose of the package signatures
[08:55] <ajhtiredwolf> [MindVirus], when you run apt-update ?
[08:55] <Tasbuntu> o: I guess so. But then how do I fix that? Is there a way to reset uSplash so that it shows the animations again?
[08:55] <NvidiaUser> Tasubuntu Can I pm you?
[08:55] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> one more question.. need some tool for apple iphone .. how to upload music from ubuntu to apple device
[08:55] <Tasbuntu> Sure
[08:55] <arvind_khadri> !puregnome | arvind_khadri
[08:55] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, I've never heard of apt-update.
[08:55] <[MindVirus]> I use apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade.
[08:55] <[MindVirus]> And I obviously update my packages with update.
[08:55] <farciarz84> bc tnx for help
[08:55] <nmvictor> magnetron:i just asked,i have neva encounterd the problem
[08:56] <Zephryos> Erf, error! [         3.542351] IO  APIC resources could be not be allocated.                    Loading, Please wait...       BusyBox v1.10.2 (Ubuntu 1:1.10.2-2ubuntu7) built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.       then  (initramfs)
[08:56] <Brando753> is it worth getting crossover office or should i just stick with wine
[08:56] <ajhtiredwolf> [MindVirus], you are saying when you did an "upgrade" not and update?
[08:56] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> may be gtkpod work fine?
[08:57] <Yondering> Brando753, it depends exactly what you want to do with it.
[08:57] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, I did both.
[08:57] <Brando753> does anyone know its advantages over wine?
[08:57] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, that doesn't matter.
[08:57] <[MindVirus]> It's been happening for a while.
[08:57] <ajhtiredwolf> [MindVirus], if you are wanting to know how to remove the package you can do sudo apt-get remove package name
[08:57] <[MindVirus]> No.
[08:57] <devius> hello, i need some assistance installing the linux intel mesa driver from "http://intellinuxgraphics.org/", i get an error "configure: error: Expat required for DRI."...what am i todo....
[08:57] <[MindVirus]> I don't want to remove it.
[08:58] <[MindVirus]> I want it to stop being held back.
[08:58] <Yondering> Brando753, check the compatibility lists.  If it supports a program that you need, that wine doesn't support and you can't find a linux equivalent, then yeah.. it'd probably be worthwhile.
[08:58] <ajhtiredwolf> [MindVirus], did you try removing it and then readding it ?
[08:58] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, no.
[08:58] <[MindVirus]> I will try.
[08:58] <bbryant> has anyone been able to get gtkpod to work on 9.04?
[08:58] <[MindVirus]> bbryant, just ask your question.
[08:59] <devius> hello, i need some assistance installing the linux intel mesa driver from "http://intellinuxgraphics.org/", i get an error "configure: error: Expat required for DRI."...what am i todo....
[08:59] <bbryant> [MindVirus]: it depends on a libgpod.so.3 library that's unavailable in the current repositories, and the current trunk build of gtkpod doesn't compile properly on my system
[08:59] <bbryant> I'm curious if anyone has come across that
[08:59] <Zephryos> Ziroday: Any suggestions?
[08:59] <[MindVirus]> bbryant, I didn't, in facty.
[08:59] <fletcherx> oo
[08:59] <[MindVirus]> *fact.
[08:59] <fletcherx> yyyu
[08:59] <[MindVirus]> But I removed gtkpod a little while back.
[09:00] <[MindVirus]> Did you try rolling back?
[09:00] <bbryant> not yet, the problem is with having a newer dependency than it looks for
[09:00] <devius> hello, i need some assistance installing the linux intel mesa driver from "http://intellinuxgraphics.org/", i get an error "configure: error: Expat required for DRI."...what am i todo....
[09:02] <[MindVirus]> bbryant, right, so if you roll back, it won't ask for a new dep.
[09:02] <[MindVirus]> If you can get an old version to run, then let it run until you can get the new version to.
[09:02] <[MindVirus]> Also, make sure your repos are fine.
[09:02] <bbryant> [MindVirus]: it's asking for an older dependency, and I can't roll pack the library package that's providing the newer file because the older version of libgpod is no longer available
[09:03] <devius> hello, i need some assistance installing the linux intel mesa driver from "http://intellinuxgraphics.org/", i get an error "configure: error: Expat required for DRI."...what am i todo....
[09:03] <[MindVirus]> Wait wait, I thought it was asking for a *newer* version.
[09:03] <[MindVirus]> Oh, I see now.
[09:03] <bbryant> no
[09:03] <[MindVirus]> So what it depends on is too old.
[09:04] <bbryant> right
[09:04] <[MindVirus]> Interesting. Did you file a bug report?
[09:04] <[MindVirus]> (I assume you've updated and all)
[09:04] <[MindVirus]> bbryant, also, I don't know if you're interested but hipo will do the job as well.
[09:04] <bbryant> I haven't gotten that far yet
[09:04] <Zephryos> To Anyone: I think I just made my Kernel mad.. its saying [494.051027] Kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init!" .. Does this mean that Ubuntu is running.. but in text only?
[09:04] <bbryant> I just found that with synaptic
[09:04] <[MindVirus]> Not as many bells and whistles but it works.
[09:04] <bbryant> thanks
[09:04] <[MindVirus]> Aye. It's a lot prettier too. :)
[09:05] <devius> hello, i need some assistance installing the linux intel mesa driver from "http://intellinuxgraphics.org/", i get an error "configure: error: Expat required for DRI."...what am i todo....
[09:05] <bbryant> Hipo worked fine, thanks [MindVirus]
[09:05] <[MindVirus]> devius, why are you installing a driver from a website?
[09:05] <[MindVirus]> bbryant, :)
[09:06] <bc> farciarz84: p.s. if it's not installed (i.e. dpkg -l | grep completion) then `sudo apt-get install bash-completion`
[09:06] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, thanks, BTW.
[09:06] <[MindVirus]> I think it fixed.
[09:06] <devius> [MindVirus]: because the new ubuntu dosent suppport my intel grapphics card
[09:06] <[MindVirus]> devius, why do you say that?
[09:06] <ajhtiredwolf> [MindVirus], de nada
[09:07] <oladejo> ubuntu
[09:07] <devius> [MindVirus]: i read it in the release note + the performance is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more than bad
[09:07] <[MindVirus]> devius, 945GME?
[09:08] <devius> [MindVirus]: GM965
[09:08] <ajhtiredwolf> devius, i am using 9.04 with an intel graphics card without problem. However in the next release 9.10 improvements to intel card supprt is planned
[09:08] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, a lot of Intel cards have issues.
[09:08] <[MindVirus]> devius, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582&highlight=x3100
[09:08] <[MindVirus]> The PPA helped for me.
[09:08] <[MindVirus]> I'm on the 945 though.
[09:08] <g0wda> what's the main criterion to see if my comp can enable desktop effects?
[09:08] <devius> ajhtiredwolf: GM965....at least yours isnt this one
[09:09] <[MindVirus]> devius, never try to download drivers from a website.
[09:09] <[MindVirus]> Unless you really know why and what you're doing.
[09:09] <devius> [MindVirus]: y's that
[09:09] <devius> aha
[09:09] <ajhtiredwolf> devius, what version are you using rihgt now? if your current drivers work couldnt you just use those in 9.04?
[09:09] <[MindVirus]> devius, because Synaptic takes care of dependencies and many other things.
[09:10] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, no.
[09:10] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, it's a pretty big kernel-side issue.
[09:10] <devius> ajhtiredwolf: u mean the version of ubuntu....9.04
[09:10] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, if you're interested, there's a lot of reading to be done on the subject.
[09:11] <devius> ajhtiredwolf: and btw my current drivers dont work
[09:11] <ajhtiredwolf> [MindVirus], devius i see, in that case wait for 9.10, improvements to intel based cards is planned, maybe see how the alpha fucntions for you
[09:11] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, he wants it now, obviously. :)
[09:11] <devius> ajhtiredwolf: ya...
[09:11] <[MindVirus]> devius, just follow the guide.
[09:11] <[MindVirus]> It'll solve everything.
[09:11] <devius> [MindVirus]: ok
[09:12] <ajhtiredwolf> my super awesome solution would be "buy a nvidia card " :P
[09:12] <tobago> doesn somebdy can help me configuring my audio mixer for recording?
[09:13] <devill> ciao a tutti
[09:13] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, which sound card?
[09:13] <[MindVirus]> devius, this is important.
[09:13] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, laptops.
[09:13] <[MindVirus]> Listen, devius.
[09:13] <devius> [MindVirus]: ?
[09:13] <[MindVirus]> If you have major issues, load up recovery mode Ubuntu, and use the root console.
[09:14] <[MindVirus]> Type "nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and put a # before the line with Option "AccelMethod" "UXA".
[09:14] <devius> [MindVirus]: k thanks for the advice
[09:14] <devius> [MindVirus]: lol my xorg.conf file is blank
[09:14] <[MindVirus]> UXA is known to malfunction in this kernel with these drivers.
[09:14] <[MindVirus]> devius, the guide will make you changei t.
[09:14] <[MindVirus]> *change it.
[09:14] <[MindVirus]> (It is highly recommended that you do.)
[09:15] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, creative soundblaster (quite old one)
[09:15] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, audigy series?
[09:15] <tobago> what is audigy series?
[09:15] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, audigy 1 2 etc.
[09:15] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, dude.
[09:15] <[MindVirus]> :)
[09:15] <[MindVirus]> It's a SoundBlaster.
[09:16] <ajhtiredwolf> [MindVirus], right... thats what an audigy is
[09:16] <g0wda> "Desktop effects could not be enabled"... why?? how do i see what graphics card i have, all i know is on windows i had to install intel extreme graphics driver for smooth visual exp...
[09:16] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, Audigy didn't exist a while ago.
[09:16] <Uplink> anyone know the website that says "just f**king google it?"
[09:16] <ajhtiredwolf> [MindVirus], i own a Sound Blaster Audigy 2
[09:16] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, how to find out without opening the computer? hwinfo?
[09:16] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, I assume by "old" he meant "a few years old".
[09:16] <[MindVirus]> Uplink, put it all together and put a .com after it.
[09:16] <ajhtiredwolf> [MindVirus], audigy 2 is more than 5 years old :p
[09:17] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, really? I have a bad memory then.
[09:17] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, mine is much older
[09:17] <[MindVirus]> tobago, 16-bit, yes?
[09:17] <tobago> [MindVirus], how to find out?
[09:18] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, if your using gnome just go to system administration sound
[09:18] <[MindVirus]> Don't worry 'bout it. If it's that old then it's probably 16-bit.
[09:18] <tobago> [MindVirus], thugh i suppose it's not a 32 bit
[09:18] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, system/ preferences/ sound i mean
[09:18] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, what do you have listed under Device: ?
[09:19] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, HDANvidia Alsa Mixer
[09:19] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, are there any onther devices listed there?
[09:19] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, click on the drop down menu
[09:19] <[MindVirus]> devius, I am going to bed so I cannot help you any longer.
[09:19] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, that is your onboard sound card
[09:19] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, yes booktree for example
[09:19] <[MindVirus]> Hope you succeed, buddy.
[09:20] <tobago> and realtek
[09:20] <devius> [MindVirus]: np thanks anyway
[09:20] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, ^^
[09:20] <Lazengann> Hello everyone.
[09:20] <nmvictor>  Lazengann:hellooo?
[09:20] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, first off what is the proble your having with it ?
[09:20] <Lazengann> Just got my Ubuntu installed and running.
[09:20] <Lazengann> Liking it so far.
[09:20] <Lazengann> Previous Windows user.
[09:21] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, anyway i now use the onboard card. so it's the nvidia one
[09:21] <tripzero> what's the command in 9.04 to reenable X zap?
[09:21] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, what is the problem your having with it?
[09:22] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, my problem: i want to record with audacity (or whatever) and want to make sure the mixer settings are correctly
[09:22] <tobago> so i want to use the line-in
[09:22] <ajhtiredwolf> tripzero, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap?action=show&redirect=DontZap
[09:23] <Burlynn> anyone running an ati 3200 okay under jaunty with the catalyst drivers?
[09:23] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, did you check to see if line in is muted?
[09:23] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, i ensured there is a signal on the line-in, but the recording tool is not recognizing anything.
[09:24] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, from what i remember, i think with audicity you might actually have to use a program called jack
[09:24] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, i will install it
[09:25] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, i installed jack too.
[09:25] <Futurity> Hi, I'm considering moving from openSuse10.3 to Ubuntu.  OpenSuse provide security and bug fix updates for 2 years, does anyone know how long Ubuntu support their latest releases?
[09:26] <oladejo> register oladejo
[09:26] <Futurity> and if like openSuse it is sucurity and bug fix updates only, or new versions as well
[09:26] <ajhtiredwolf> Futurity, there is a seperate version that is supported longer
[09:26] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, i have opened the als mixer and choosen record.
[09:27] <Futurity> i know there is an LTS? version, but is that only security and bug fixes, or does that allow new versions to be installed?
[09:27] <ajhtiredwolf> Futurity, not sure :-P
[09:27] <Uhriventis> Hmm, just came from openSUSE because my girlfriend couldn't figure it out.
[09:27] <Futurity> when I say new versions, i mean does it suggest going from firefox 2 to firefox 3 when you run update?
[09:27] <Uhriventis> Kinda miss it.
[09:27] <Futurity> It is a nice desktop environment
[09:28] <ajhtiredwolf> Futurity, ive never ran the LTS version
[09:28] <oladejo> REGISTER<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:28] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, there the "audio record" button is marked as disabled, enabling it and opening the record tab again, the button is still marked as disabled.
[09:28] <Futurity> but it's a nightmare to migrate from opensuse 10.2 to 10.3 for example
[09:28] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, any idea?
[09:28] <ajhtiredwolf> Futurity, upgrading is usually fairly painless
[09:28] <ajhtiredwolf> Futurity, but I always wipe and reinstall just out of habbit
[09:29] <Uhriventis> I liked opensuse
[09:29] <Uhriventis> A lot
[09:29] <nmvictor>   oladejo: its /REGISTER  <usrename>  <emailaddress>  dont include  the <>
[09:29] <Uhriventis>  Ubuntu was my first.
[09:29] <Futurity> i'm basicallyu hoping that Ubuntu not only gives security and bug fix updates, but like Windows, tells you when new versions of software are available so that you can upgrade from Firefox to the latest version for example
[09:29] <Uhriventis> It's like losing your Linux virginity
[09:29] <ajhtiredwolf> Futurity, yes it does do that
[09:29] <Futurity> cool
[09:29] <ajhtiredwolf> Futurity, however with some programs you need to add their software repo to your source list
[09:29] <Futurity> in fact very cool :)
[09:30] <Futurity> i see
[09:30] <ajhtiredwolf> Futurity, because ubuntu isn't always very fast in doing that
[09:30] <mastermaikeru> I switched because I got tired of windows not utilizing my hardware to its fullest potential.
[09:30] <Futurity> i suppose like the Google software repository?
[09:30] <ajhtiredwolf> Futurity, yes or pidgin etc etc
[09:30] <lowkey1979> Hi there.  Anyone know more than me about how to fix this?
[09:30] <Futurity> don't worry moved away from Windows years ago ;)
[09:30] <oladejo> Ubuntu
[09:30] <Uhriventis> Pidgin is the greates
[09:30] <tobago> Futurity, and ubuntu is very reliable in release times.
[09:30] <Uhriventis> t
[09:30] <Futurity> Although loving the Apple Mac interface
[09:30] <nmvictor> Futurity: ofcourse it does that,also most software are coded to to do that,tell you when a new version of them is available
[09:31] <tess_> hello every one - need help installing vmware player - its asking for "kernel headers 2.6.27-8-eeepc what is this and where do i find one???
[09:31] <ajhtiredwolf> lowkey1979,  i dont know how to fix some bug, but if you tell me whats wrong i might be able to help you
[09:31] <Uhriventis> I'm actually a native KDE 3.5 user.
[09:31] <lowkey1979> Well here's the story.
[09:31] <Futurity> nmvictor: openSuse only tells you about security and bug fix versions for the release you have installed from their DVD
[09:31] <Uhriventis> I just got ubuntu because of the support. The support or at least at the time was samall for Kubuntu
[09:31] <Futurity> so you may get the latest firefox 2 with all the security and bug fixes finstalld
[09:31] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, ehh, honestly i havent messed iwth audio recording in a while with ubuntu, i gave up trying to get my Mbox mini working in it
[09:31] <Futurity> but it won't move from Firefox 2 to firefox 3
[09:32] <kgx> how do i rename my wireless device? its currently called "eth1" instead of "wlan0"
[09:32] <ajhtiredwolf> Futurity, i believe that FF 3 is intalled default in 9.04
[09:32] <ajhtiredwolf> kgx, i think its in /etc/network/interfaces but im not sure
[09:32] <Futurity> the thing is that openSuse provide 2 years support on their latest erleases but i think Ubuntu is only 18 months for their latest releases
[09:32] <Uhriventis> I think one thing Ubuntu has over openSUSE is the family of users willing to help.
[09:32] <Futurity> i agree with that ;)
[09:32] <Uhriventis> A lot more Ubuntu users then SUSE
[09:33] <oladejo> am trying to upgrade from ubuntu 8.04 to 9.04 after the upgrade i can not get my GUI again
[09:33] <Burlynn> ubuntu 8.10 new install on a laptop intel 945 chipset, normal visual effects, DarkRoom theme option, all my popup notifications are two colors, is this normal? the background is half tan half grey, does not look right
[09:33] <lowkey1979> I just installed it for the first time. Last night I put it on hibernate. No problem up to now, running like a dream. Then, my girlfriend went to use it today. Naturally it wanted a password, so not know it she tried to switch users. The screen goes black. I come home and reboot and it crashes on the user login screen.
[09:33] <Futurity> i take it that the Ubuntu user base is now bigger than openSuse?
[09:33] <Uhriventis> I'm on 9.04 AMD64
[09:33] <Uhriventis> A lot bigger
[09:33] <Uhriventis> By a long shot
[09:33] <Uhriventis> I would say thousands of bigger
[09:33] <tess_> hello every one - need help installing vmware player - its asking for "kernel headers 2.6.27-8-eeepc what is this and where do i find one???
[09:33] <ajhtiredwolf> lowkey1979, i used to have problems with hybernate, so i turned it off
[09:33] <lowkey1979> It's like the display  crashes or something. Flickers a lot then locks up.
[09:34] <Uhriventis> Right now I can't get 3D to work for some reason, but oh well.
[09:34] <Futurity> I'll check it out ;)
[09:34] <Futurity> thanks for all your advice
[09:34] <ajhtiredwolf> Futurity, you know if you wanted to just try it out first
[09:34] <lowkey1979> Yeah, but now I'm having to use the install ISO disk just to get on and try and fix it.
[09:34] <ajhtiredwolf> Futurity, you could always just install a guest VB session in your current opensuse session
[09:35] <ajhtiredwolf> lowkey1979, so the gui will no longer show up?
[09:35] <Uhriventis> Futurity try Fedora
[09:35] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, if he's looking for friendly user support... i woudlnt try fedora :p
[09:35] <lowkey1979> You think I need to resort to a reinstall? Will that get rid of what I've installed already or will it reinstall without reformatting?
[09:35] <nmvictor> Futurity: sorry i thought you were asking about ubuntu,wouldn you try #suse,if you need anything about them.sorry anyway
[09:35] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, that is the reason i switched to ubuntu
[09:35] <lowkey1979> Nope, completely dead.
[09:35] <kwork> root@juri:/etc# sudo do-release-upgrade
[09:35] <kwork> Checking for a new ubuntu release
[09:35] <kwork> No new release found
[09:35] <kwork> root@juri:/etc# cat /etc/issue
[09:35] <kwork> issue      issue.net
[09:35] <FloodBot2> kwork: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:35] <kwork> root@juri:/etc# cat /etc/issue
[09:35] <kwork> Ubuntu 8.04.2 \n \l
[09:35] <Uhriventis> I switched from Ubuntu for that "hands on" experience.
[09:36] <ajhtiredwolf> lowkey1979, what graphics card are you using?
[09:36] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, that temptation is there however I dont have the time :-P
[09:36] <lowkey1979> Radeon 7000. But there were no problems before...
[09:36] <kwork> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/177027/
[09:36] <kwork> how is that possible
[09:36] <lowkey1979> I think, I foger actually lol
[09:36] <Uhriventis> Haha, try Minix!
[09:36] <lowkey1979> forget
[09:36] <ajhtiredwolf> lowkey1979, try reconfiguring the xorg.conf and if that doesnt work reinstall your ati display drivers
[09:37] <herb> hi everybody!
[09:37] <kwork> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/177027/ <--- why i cant release upgrade ?
[09:37] <Uhriventis> http://www.minix3.org/
[09:37] <Uhriventis> Talk about hard
[09:38] <hskill> how do i get ncurses.h?
[09:38] <Uhriventis> Or not hard... But, rather time consuming.
[09:38] <lowkey1979> Hmmmm. New linux user here, I'd rather avoid killing it. How straightforward is that? The only command line stuff I know is DOS. I know, i know....
[09:38] <ajhtiredwolf> lowkey1979, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:38] <herb> in my computer both speaker and headphone are working. But i thought if you connect headphone speakers shouldn't work. How can i fix it? thanx!
[09:38] <ajhtiredwolf> lowkey1979, run that
[09:38] <kwork> do i need to set new aptsouces to upgrade from 8.0.2 ?
[09:38] <ajhtiredwolf> lowkey1979, that will reconfigure the xorg.conf
[09:38] <Uhriventis> DOS CMD is harder than UNIX command
[09:38] <lowkey1979> Ok...
[09:39] <indus> herb: u mean u still hear sound from the speakers
[09:39] <lowkey1979> One sec, will give it a go...
[09:39] <Uhriventis> UNIX is much more straight forward. So if you have DOS skills you can UNIX around fine
[09:39] <herb> indus, yes
[09:39] <devius> Uhriventis: **not**
[09:39] <ajhtiredwolf> lowkey1979, dont do that in your live session
[09:39] <areels> wine is a poison! it poisons linux knowledgebase!
[09:39] <indus> herb: laptop?
[09:39] <ajhtiredwolf> lowkey1979, do it in the installed session
[09:39] <areels> what are alternatives to firefox on ubuntu?
[09:39] <herb> indus, yes
[09:39] <Uhriventis> Devius: Yet
[09:39] <Uhriventis> Yet
[09:39] <Uhriventis> Uhg yes
[09:39] <herb> and mine is xubuntu
[09:39] <areels> safari and opera are not supported on ubuntu?
[09:39] <indus> herb: which version\o f ubunty
[09:40] <nmvictor> areels:midori
[09:40] <herb> 9.04
[09:40] <ajhtiredwolf> areels, I think opera is, not sure about safara
[09:40] <areels> nmvictor:  i've trouble with flash, is midori better?
[09:40] <nmvictor> areels:but firefox still stands out to be the best you'll ever get
[09:40] <Uhriventis> I leared UNIX command much easier then DOS
[09:40] <indus> herb: have you tried in windows? Have similar issue?
[09:40] <Uhriventis> *learned
[09:40] <areels> nmvictor:  flashs are sluggish on firefox don't know why
[09:40] <ajhtiredwolf> nmvictor, chrome is the best imho :P
[09:40] <herb> indus, i don't have windows on my laptop
[09:40] <ajhtiredwolf> areels, have you heard of swiftweasel?
[09:40] <areels> i believe the chrome is best too ajhtiredwolf
[09:41] <Uhriventis> What is your resolution set to? Might have a reason for lag
[09:41] <ajhtiredwolf> areels, it is an alternative to firefox, made for linux, runs faster
[09:41] <areels> haven't heard of it ajhtiredwolf but i know iceweasel
[09:41] <nmvictor> areels:i could help you with flash,maybe you need the latest version,you have it?
[09:41] <lowkey1979> Yeah, true lol.
[09:41] <ajhtiredwolf> areels, as far as flash though, that is a problem with flash not firefox
[09:41] <Uhriventis> I just got flash working on 9.04
[09:41] <areels> yes it's the latest and i'm using adobe's extension nmvictor
[09:41] <ajhtiredwolf> areels, you can try some of the open source solutions to flash but they are not that great imho
[09:42] <areels> well i've tried recommended swf extension but it was sluggish either
[09:42] <ajhtiredwolf> areels, try gnash
[09:42] <ajhtiredwolf> areels, other than that, flash jus runs slow in linux from my experience
[09:42] <areels> yea i mean that, it really works slow
[09:43] <ajhtiredwolf> areels, you might get some performance gains in swiftweasel
[09:43] <Uhriventis> ajhtiredwolf: In openSUSE worked fine for me. Just like XP
[09:43] <ajhtiredwolf> areels, simply because it isnt super bloated like firefox
[09:43] <Uhriventis> Ubuntu seems slower
[09:43] <areels> well let me try swiftweasel then
[09:43] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, never used openSUSE but i had the problem in all distros ive used
[09:44] <Uhriventis> ajhtiredwolf: Old hardware?
[09:44] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, not at all :-P
[09:44] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, Intel Duo 7400 geforce 8800gt OC edition, 4gig ram
[09:44] <Uhriventis> ajhtiredworlf: That was my problem. I updated slightly and things work a lot better.
[09:44] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, I use linux for gaming too so i need something that can keep up
[09:45] <Uhriventis> ajhtiredwolf: Might be ahead of your game in that case.
[09:45] <indus> hi
[09:45] <Uhriventis> MMORPGs?
[09:45] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, unbelievably you can get dx9 games to work
[09:45] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, nahh I hate those, those are for people who sit around all day doing nothing with their life :P
[09:45] <Uhriventis> DX10?
[09:45] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, I just got fallout3 to work
[09:45] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, DX10 no, that doenst even work in xp :P
[09:45] <indus> !hello
[09:45] <Uhriventis> It can
[09:45] <Uhriventis> ...
[09:46] <indus> thanks ubottu
[09:46] <Uhriventis> With some tweak after SP3
[09:46] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, *shrug maybe* i dunno i dont use windows
[09:46] <Uhriventis> Since it's no longer supported
[09:46] <nmvictor> areels: you could also try chrome as ajhtiredwolf suggests,i never knew that it was ready,one for linux.im gonna get it too.
[09:46] <oladejo> hello
[09:46] <asafche> i'm need help in figuring how to overpass my smtp mail sending problem. it can't be my comp., cause i can send smtp mails in other wi-fi connection. is it possible that it is the router?
[09:46] <ajhtiredwolf> nmvictor, it isnt available in linux
[09:46] <Uhriventis> Personally Windows isn't a bad OS Vista is but not XP.
[09:46] <GibbaTheHutt> don't think it is out for linux
[09:46] <ajhtiredwolf> nmvictor, i was just saying it is my favorite :p
[09:46] <joosengee> หวัดดีครับ ทุกคน
[09:46] <oladejo> nickname olasoft
[09:46] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, I don't like having to run an antivirus
[09:47] <joosengee> มีใคร ใช้งาน xubuntu บ้างครับ
[09:47] <tobago> i put in my old creative soundblaster right now, but the system seems to ignore it? the onboard card is still working but the soundblaster does not.
[09:47] <indus> nmvictor: try opera, swiftfox, swiftweasel
[09:47] <joosengee> hi
[09:47] <asafche> please. anyone?
[09:47] <asafche> please. anyone?
[09:47] <asafche> please. anyone?
[09:47] <FloodBot2> asafche: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:47] <Uhriventis> Well, put it this way. If nine out of ten people used Linux than it would be getting the wrap because, if I was incline to write a virus I would want it to effect as much people as I can.
[09:47] <indus> asafche: ask ur question
[09:47] <Uhriventis> It's not that it's a bad os
[09:48] <Uhriventis> Just popular
[09:48] <tobago> furthermore the network card now makes trouble.
[09:48] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, well the difference with linux is
[09:48] <jussi01> !ot | Uhriventis
[09:48] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, in linux everyone isn't using the same program
[09:48] <lars_bauer> howto get open office 3.0 on Intrepid Ibex
[09:48] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, just about every windows user out there has outlook express, so someone can write an outlook virus and attack most windows useres
[09:48] <asafche> i'm need help in figuring how to overpass my smtp mail sending problem. it can't be my comp., cause i can send smtp mails in other wi-fi connection. is it possible that it is the router?
[09:48] <indus> lars_bauer: try enable backports in repository synaptic
[09:49] <Uhriventis> Same with openofice.
[09:49] <Uhriventis> office
[09:49] <indus> lars_bauer: if its been backported that is
[09:49] <GibbaTheHutt> asafche, can you explain the problem a bit more detailed ?
[09:49] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, I suppose, but then there is the fact that xp makes the default user adminstrator
[09:49] <Uhriventis> Besides, Linux just bought a bunch of code from Microsoft anyways.
[09:49] <GibbaTheHutt> oO
[09:50] <Uhriventis> Same with Mac. Mac's coding is 30 percent MS
[09:50] <rohit> Linux bought code from Microsoft ? When did that happen ?
[09:50] <jussi01> ajhtiredwolf: Uhriventis, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for this discussion
[09:50] <GibbaTheHutt> Linux doesn't buy code :)
[09:50] <Simon1> Does anyone know a good site to show me how to setup my nokia phone as a modem for my EEE PC using bluetooth?
[09:50] <ajhtiredwolf> GibbaTheHutt, <---
[09:50] <Uhriventis> SUSE/Red Hat/Fedora
[09:50] <Uhriventis> Google it
[09:50] <jussi01> Uhriventis: Last warning
[09:50] <Uhriventis> Warning for what?
[09:50] <jussi01> Uhriventis, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for this discussion
[09:50] <GibbaTheHutt> Uhriventis, go to offtopic channel for none technical stuff
[09:51] <ajhtiredwolf> jussi01, ah alright, no questions being asked though :p
[09:51] <asafche> GibbaTheHutt, - i have an ubuntu 8.04 and have evolution installed and read/write my mails. when i'm at my parents house, with another wi-fi, it can read mails but not send them.
[09:51] <jimi_> hi all, whats the command line for updating the software and sources list
[09:51] <ajhtiredwolf> jim__, sudo apt-get update
[09:51] <GibbaTheHutt> asafche, so I assume you're on a laptop which works at one and not the other ?
[09:51] <Uhriventis> ;^)
[09:52] <asafche> GibbaTheHutt, the send mail are configured as smtp. the answer is yes for your question.
[09:52] <jimi_> ty
[09:52] <GibbaTheHutt> asafche, and what about the different ISPs, is one of them the same as the mail account you are using ?
[09:52] <luzze> oh,my god
[09:53] <jimi_> whats the channel for gaming on ubuntu?
[09:54] <asafche> GibbaTheHutt, no. my e-mail is at lunarpages, a host. company, and the ISP is another communication comp.
[09:54] <lars_bauer> indus: sound as a good idea , but i have tryed to understand what you suggest , and searched around in settings etc. I  am stocked.
[09:55] <Simon1> anyone know a good site for setting up jaunty to use a mobile phone for internet via bluetooth?
[09:55] <asafche> GibbaTheHutt, maybe it's the router? it can be so?
[09:55] <GibbaTheHutt> asafche, it could still be ISP, could be router if it has some odd settings, but less likely, do you have any other email accounts you can test with ?
[09:55] <indus> lars_bauer: i forgot ur question :)
[09:55] <asafche> i have a gmail acoount i can try configure at my LT....
[09:56] <asafche> GibbaTheHutt,  i have a gmail acoount i can try configure at my LT....
[09:56] <GibbaTheHutt> asafche, it may help isolate the problem
[09:57] <jussi01> asafche: are you using port 25? here in finland ISP's often block port 25
[09:57] <TheNano> asafche: the ISP /provider blocks the standard smtp port, you can yuse their alternative smtp sever instead, Gmail uses another port over ssl for smtp and it will work!
[09:57] <rohit> jimi_,  #ubuntu-gaming
[09:58] <jimi_> rohit, ty
[09:59] <rohit> Hmm which other channels are good on IRC ?
[09:59] <rohit> jim__ ~ np
[09:59] <jimi_> rwth
[09:59] <jimi_> sorry about that
[09:59] <rohit> I've just started using IRC past few days ...
[10:00] <jimi_> rohit, i guess it depends what you need to what channel you go to
[10:00] <rohit> jim__ ~ I was thinking something like programming, linux ... basically some geek stuff :D
[10:01] <indus> rohit: try #kernel
[10:01] <jimi_> rohit, well i dont know the names of them but im sure there will be a list of them on google and plenty of them too :)
[10:01] <rohit> Hmm will do - whole new world out here :D
[10:04] <chocobanana> Hi everyone!!!!
[10:04] <g0wda> hi buddies! my apt-get is goin crazy repeating its downloads, i can't figure out wat's the prob, i can't find the files it downloaded in cache either... wats goin on??
[10:04] <asafche> jussi01, how can i know if im using port 25
[10:04] <asafche> ?
[10:04] <chocobanana> g0wda: try "sudo apt-get autoclean" in the terminal
[10:05] <chocobanana> g0wda: then issue a "sudo apt-get update"
[10:05] <g0wda> does that delete all my packages in the cache? i want to keep them actually...
[10:05] <chocobanana> g0wda: why would you want that?
[10:06] <g0wda> I can create a local repo later and take it anywhere... i've been doing that since hardy... my friends without internet benifit a lot from it..
[10:07] <chocobanana> g0wda: I see...
[10:07] <chocobanana> g0wda: then I'm not sure...
[10:07] <chocobanana> g0wda: you may want to manually move the cache somewhere else and still do the apt-get autoclean
[10:07] <g0wda> ok i backed up the packages in another directory... now i can try wat u said
[10:08] <g0wda> yeha
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:08] <chocobanana> g0wda: good lucj
[10:08] <chocobanana> luck
[10:09] <chocobanana> Does anyone know how to limit the boundaries of the smaller resolution display in a dual screen set up?
[10:09] <g0wda> hey wait a sec, git-core isn't there in my synaptic, everything else, libgit-ruby for example is there!!!!
[10:09] <g0wda> wtf?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> g0wda: apt-cache search git | grep core
[10:09] <gogy> how to find exact port wher my mode, is connected??
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> gogy: can you expan please, i dont understand the question
[10:11] <g0wda> aCTIONpARSNIP it's there in the command line thing but not in synaptic i swear!
[10:11] <gogy> im trying to setup a hyla fax server and i`m having troble to set my modem port i`m not shoure i select the right one
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> g0wda: thats half a good thing at least, ive seen loads of people say similar but with different packages
[10:12] <macubuntu> anyone know how to make work numeric kbd on an standard apple usb kbd ?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> g0wda: personally i dont use gui apps to install/remove packages
[10:12] <g0wda> ok i found it by scrolling up an down!
[10:12] <chocobanana> g0wda: lol
[10:12] <g0wda> even i wouldnt have if my apt-get wasn crazy..
[10:13] <g0wda> it keeps downloading the same ded file till i hit ctrl+c out of desperation
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> macubuntu: let me see what i can dig up
[10:13] <Burlynn> ubuntu 8.10 new install on a laptop intel 945 chipset, normal visual effects, DarkRoom theme option, all my popup notifications are two colors, is this normal? the background is half tan half grey, does not look right
[10:13] <macubuntu> chocobana for me I can do it with NVDIA X server settings
[10:14] <areels> nmvictor:  chrome released for linux??
[10:14] <macubuntu> thanks Action P
[10:14] <gogy> actionparsnip:do u have any advice about find out my modem port??
[10:15] <areels> not yet http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/linux.html?hl=en
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> macubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/29009
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> gogy: let me see
[10:15] <jetienne> !java
[10:15] <macubuntu> thanks XXX I check it
[10:16] <areels> !chromium
[10:16] <chocobanana> Burlynn: does it happen only with Darkroom? Try changing the desktop background. The notifications are slightly transparent and will show a bit of whatever is behind...
[10:16] <areels> !chrome
[10:16] <lensiwpe> hey guys
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> gogy: may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320534&highlight=faxing+with+ubuntu
[10:16] <lensiwpe> can someone give me a hand with joomla
[10:16] <gogy> thnx
[10:16] <lensiwpe> im trying to install it and its saying that it cant write to a heap of directories like images what do i chmod them to?
[10:16] <chocobanana> lensiwpe: you're better of to the Joomla channel (#joomla)
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> gogy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupAndFax may help too
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> gogy: http://www.ls.net/software/opensource/linux/ubuntu/efax
[10:17] <lensiwpe> chocobanana: kthxbye
[10:17] <areels> oh, chrome is almost done http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/console
[10:17] <Burlynn> chocobanana: no it happens with the default theme too, and regardless if the popup is top or bottom it still has that color deal. not a big deal just kind of ugly
[10:18] <chocobanana> Burlynn: right, you mention ubuntu 8.10, no transparent notifications yet...
[10:19] <chocobanana> Burlynn: not sure about what may be the problem unfortunately
[10:19] <chocobanana> Burlynn: try searching or posting your question in the forums
[10:19] <lensiwpe> hey guys just been to #joomla and there is nobody there
[10:19] <asafche> GibbaTheHutt, the evolution is giving me this message: לא ניתן להתחבר ל-mail.google.com: Connection timed out
[10:19] <meganox> i can't burn cds on my laptop with hardy/intrepid/jaunty, finding lots of noise when i google, can someone please help me get started troubleshooting, i don't know where to begin
[10:19] <lensiwpe> can someone tell me what to chmod the directories in joomla to?
[10:20] <lensiwpe> directories like image, language, mambots etc etc
[10:20] <jetienne> q. how to install java in firefox ?
[10:20] <asafche> GibbaTheHutt, it says that i can't connect in hebrew
[10:21] <lensiwpe> anyone know?~
[10:21] <infinityxi> jetienne: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[10:21] <macubuntu> my numpad was working with 8.10 but nomore in 9.04, it's pitty cause everything else is working like a cadillac  on macpro
[10:21] <infinityxi> in the terminal should get you the web browser plugin
[10:21] <maxagaz> is there a tool to extract an image from a pdf ?
[10:22] <meganox> lensiwpe: you read the installation guide?  http://downloads.joomlacode.org/docmanfileversion/1/7/4/17471/1.5_Installation_Manual_version_0.5.pdf
[10:22] <elementz> hi all
[10:22] <macubuntu> hi elementz
[10:24] <Surlent777> just to confirm, 30.1GB of items in /root/.Trash, most of which is in folders labeled recup_xxx, as well as a few variations and copies of dosemu.gz, is ok to delete, right?
[10:24] <elementz> i need usbmon driver enabled on my jaunty box. modprobe usbmon gives me a module not found. a locate gives me a driver for the previous kernel under /lib/modules/2.6.27-11-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/mon/usbmon.ko . now how would i proceed from here?
[10:25] <tdn> I have a fit-PC with an on board chip for hardware accelerated AES. There is a module for this that is loaded by default geode_aes. How do I make dmcrypt/LUKS use this module?
[10:25] <macubuntu> youhou is there anyone here with a macpro and U 9.04 ???
[10:25] <lensiwpe> hey guys im back
[10:25] <lensiwpe> can someone give me a hand with these joomla permissions
[10:25] <infinityxi> maxagaz: install xpdf-utilities
[10:26] <lensiwpe> trying to install joomla but i dont know what permissions it needs
[10:26] <infinityxi> maxagaz: there is a tool called pdfimages
[10:26] <lensiwpe> anyone?
[10:26] <lensiwpe> c'mon someone in here must know about octal permissions
[10:27] <infinityxi> well what do you need to do, read write and execute?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> lensiwpe: i know all about them
[10:27] <infinityxi> 700?
[10:27] <meganox> lensiwpe: i think no-one knows about joomla
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> lensiwpe: just not what joomla expects
[10:27] <lensiwpe> well the issue is this
[10:27] <lensiwpe> its not a joomla problem i guess
[10:27] <lensiwpe> its just...
[10:27] <lensiwpe> i dont know what kind of permissions you need on a web directory in /var/www
[10:27] <meganox> lensiwpe: joomla installation forum: http://forum.joomla.org/viewforum.php?f=429
[10:27] <lensiwpe> thanks
[10:28] <Surlent777> just to confirm, 30.1GB of items in /root/.Trash, most of which is in folders labeled recup_xxx, as well as a few variations and copies of dosemu.gz, is ok to delete, right?
[10:28] <infinityxi> what are they in root's trash?
[10:28] <lensiwpe> see i have RTFMed but the weird thing is they dont tell you what to chmod the directories to...
[10:28] <infinityxi> why*
[10:28] <Surlent777> infinityxi: I have no clue whatsoever
[10:28] <Surlent777> but damn, that is a LOT of space
[10:28] <infinityxi> i'm guessing if they are in there and the system is working fine
[10:28] <macubuntu> my numpad was working with 8.10 but nomore in 9.04, it's pitty cause everything else is working like a cadillac  on macpro
[10:29] <lensiwpe> anybody else think thats weird?
[10:29] <infinityxi> have you been running many programs as root?
[10:29] <Surlent777> nothing out of the ordinary
[10:30] <Surlent777> synaptic and framebuffer programs mostly
[10:30] <infinityxi> should be fine since the system is running fine and nothing will be looking for anything in the trash
[10:30] <Surlent777> ok, that's what I thought; just wanted to confirm
[10:30] <Surlent777> thanks
[10:30] <ttl6> how often is stuff in /etc/cron.daily executed, once every 24hours? is there a way to change it to once every 18hours?
[10:30] <lesshaste> where is /proc/config.gz on ubuntu?   When i touch the screen i can move my finger and hte mouse moves, but not to where my finger it, it moves relative to where it currently is. like if the cursor is in the middle, and i touch the top right and move 1cm down, the cursor moves 1cm down from the middle.  I also cannot click. lsusb picks it up as "D-WAV Scientific Co., Ltd eGalax TouchScreen"
[10:36] <q0s> hey guys. my flash plugin is just partially working. most popular sites work, but less popular ones do not. can someone help me to find out why?
[10:36] <infinityxi> Preet: sounds like you need to calibrate the screen
[10:36] <infinityxi> there is a screen calibrating utility, just can't think of the package
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> xrandr, infinityxi
[10:37] <infinityxi> q0s: which flash plugin did you use
[10:37] <iceroot> q0s: flash oder gnash?
[10:37] <iceroot> or
[10:37] <Preet> yeah i know which you mean, when i ran it before it said it didnt find a touchscreen
[10:37] <Preet> but i will try it again later
[10:37] <T-KILLER> Hello, I have compiled and installed the latest FFMPEG and now i am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but an coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1"
[10:37] <meganox> when drives changed from hdX to sdX, is that because IDE is now under SCSI emulation or SATA emulation?  is there a way back to plain ol' IDE?  not being able to burn CDs is very embarrasing!
[10:37] <Preet> that was aimed at infinityxi, sorry
[10:37] <T-KILLER> this is stopping the FFMPEG-PHP from compiling properly
[10:37] <Surlent777> actually, you know what?
[10:37] <Surlent777> that was OVER 80 GIGS OF DATA
[10:37] <T-KILLER> can someone help to resolve this issue ?
[10:37] <Guest86300> how can i display all my environment variable???
[10:37] <infinityxi> Surlent777: wow how did that happen
[10:37] <q0s> infinityxi, iceroot: swfdec and adobe flash
[10:37] <Guest86300> in the shell of course
[10:38] <Surlent777> I haven't the slightest clue!
[10:38] <chocobanana> Does anyone know how to limit the boundaries of the smaller resolution display in a dual screen set up?
[10:38] <Surlent777> I have no idea what makes those recup_xxx folders
[10:38] <iceroot> Guest86300: env
[10:38] <iceroot> Guest86300: also printenv
[10:39] <Guest86300> thanks
[10:39] <infinityxi> q0s: i only have adobe's flash in and everything works, maybe having swfdec in messes things up. I cannot confirm that though
[10:39] <Surlent777> and from what little I saw, it looks like it was mostly txt files...one I saw looked like an XML file and mentioned GNOME_Internet and KDE
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: restore from backup sounds like its in order?
[10:39] <q0s> infinityxi, okay. i will check this
[10:40] <humber> Does anyone know how to limit the boundaries of the smaller resolution display in a dual screen set up?
[10:40] <infinityxi> try uninstalling swfdec-mozilla and seeing if it works
[10:40] <Surlent777> hahaha...backups...heh. =/ I hope it isn't that bad. Everything is functioning more or less as I'd expect, aside from the 80GB OF CRAP in /root/.Trash
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: yikes thats a lot
[10:40] <T-KILLER> Hello, I have compiled and installed the latest FFMPEG and now i am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but an coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1"
[10:40] <Surlent777> no kidding =((( I was really wondering where all my space went
[10:40] <T-KILLER> this is stopping the FFMPEG-PHP from compiling properly
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: if your data is important, get a backup system
[10:41] <T-KILLER> can someone help to resolve this issue ?
[10:41] <Surlent777> ActionParsnip: Do you know why/how these recup_xxx files would show up?
[10:41] <Surlent777> I seem to recall seeing a similar phenomenon on one of my USB drives once, too
[10:41] <pkkm> I am using 'xinit $@ -- :1 -layout GameLayout', which initializes new X server session for games and I were switching by ctrl+alt+Fx, but now I my game hung up. how to kill X session?
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: not sure man, never come across anything like that
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: does the file command give any info
[10:42] <iceroot> pkkm: if you want restart your x-server   ctrl + alt + backspace
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> !dontzap
[10:42] <Surlent777> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure I understand the question
[10:42] <T-KILLER> Hello, I have compiled and installed the latest FFMPEG and now i am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but an coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1"
[10:43] <T-KILLER> this is stopping the FFMPEG-PHP from compiling properly
[10:43] <q0s> infinityxi, it works now. seems as would both flash versions mess each oth up. apt should forbid to install both ;)
[10:43] <Surlent777> ActionParsnip: the files I saw were mostly .txt files
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: file   is a command
[10:43] <pkkm> iceroot: I don't want to restart it, I want to kill it.
[10:43] <T-KILLER> can someone help to resolve this issue ?
[10:43] <infinityxi> q0s: how did you install them? through firefox?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: the file extension means very little in linux
[10:43] <mrwes> Runny Jaunty here and I added the PPA for Open Office 3.1, but the update says packages were 'held' back, what causes that?
[10:43] <Surlent777> maybe so, but the ones I examined were indeed textual
[10:43] <Surlent777> structured like XML, I think
[10:43] <JNSamuel> bah
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: use the file command against one of your images, or an mp3 or something
[10:44] <infinityxi> q0s: i usually just stick with adobe as much as flash sucks because I know the other alternatives aren't really on par right now
[10:44] <pkkm> game is on ^ alt F9, and I am on ^ alt F7 now
[10:44] <zhurai> hm... apparently, after I "edited" the groups in "Users and Groups" I lost my /etc/group, which I restored...somewhat.  I got back audio,video,gdm,sudo,admin, but I can't access shutdown/restart, certain System->Administration things (such as User and Groups again, Services, etc) as well as I have no internet connection (I have Atheros, which worked out of the box before)
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: it will tell you what it is, it will say the same even if you change the file extension
[10:44] <pkkm> wut when I restart X session, probably GDM will start
[10:44] <pkkm> *but
[10:44] <zhurai> I need help on fixing this (preferably without reinstalling ubuntu 9.04 from scratch) >_>
[10:44] <mrwes> ActionParsnip, Runny Jaunty here and I added the PPA for Open Office 3.1, but the update says packages were 'held' back, what causes that?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: so if you run the file command against these random files it will hopefuly not just say "Data" and will hopefully tell you what it is
[10:44] <T-KILLER> Hello, I have compiled and installed the latest FFMPEG and now i am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but an coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1"
[10:44] <q0s> infinityxi, i installed swfdec using firefox. but was not as stable as the not-free one is. so i decided later to install flash-nonfree paket with apt.
[10:45] <T-KILLER> can someone help to resolve this issue ?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> mrwes: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:45] <guantanamo> is there any way of installing gnome 2.26 on ubuntu 8.10?
[10:45] <meganox> pkkm: so?  you can ^ alt F7 again and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> mrwes: in future, please simply address the channel
[10:45] <Surlent777> ActionParsnip: 1. How would this command be invoked, and 2. I already deleted it all
[10:45] <mrwes> hrmm
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: 2. ah
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: 1. its a terminal command
[10:45] <zhurai> hm... apparently, after I "edited" the groups in "Users and Groups" I lost my /etc/group, which I restored...somewhat.  I got back audio,video,gdm,sudo,admin, but I can't access shutdown/restart, certain System->Administration things (such as User and Groups again, Services, etc) as well as I have no internet connection (I have Atheros, which worked out of the box before)... umm I need help on fixing this (preferably without reinstalling
[10:45] <Surlent777> yes
[10:46] <Surlent777> but what arguments?
[10:46] <zhurai> =_=
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: file ~/Pictures/image.jpg for example
[10:46] <nixot> hi all
[10:46] <Surlent777> ok
[10:46] <mrwes> ActionParsnip, well thank :)
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: file <a file>
[10:46] <Surlent777> noted
[10:46] <nixot> I'm sorry for leaving last night. my internet crashed
[10:46] <Surlent777> I was thinking I needed -e but that did nothing
[10:46] <zhurai> T-KILLER: no clue, I never heard of FFMPEG-PHP before, sorry
[10:46] <T-KILLER> I have compiled and installed the latest FFMPEG and now I am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but am coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1"  someone help fix this please ?
[10:47] <nixot> I would like some help please..
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: if you use it on a jpg, then rename the jpg to png (not convert) file will still see the structure of a jpg and tell you its a jpg
[10:47] <macubuntu>  does anyone working on macpro, I just have one prob with my kbd....
[10:47] <Surlent777> well, I just got a crap-ton of HD space back from this ordeal...went from ~60 to ~147GB...that's pretty awesome in and of itself
[10:47] <T-KILLER> FFMPEG-PHP is a PHP extention to allow PHP to access video header data such as length, fps, codecs used, bitrate etc etc
[10:47] <zhurai> nixot: I would like some help too >_>... but wait your turn~ -_-
[10:47] <Surlent777> ActionParsnip: Good to know; thanks for the advice
[10:47] <infinityxi> T-KILLER: http://forums.theplanet.com/index.php?showtopic=90852
[10:47] <nixot> my question is: Is there a list of repositories I can add to my eee pc?
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: file extensions are a windows thing that they refuse to let go of from the old 6.3 filename days
[10:47] <zhurai> hm... apparently, after I "edited" the groups in "Users and Groups" I lost my /etc/group, which I restored...somewhat.  I got back audio,video,gdm,sudo,admin, but I can't access shutdown/restart, certain System->Administration things (such as User and Groups again, Services, etc) as well as I have no internet connection (I have Atheros, which worked out of the box before)... umm I need help on fixing this (preferably without reinstalling
[10:47] <nixot> zhurai, I don't mean to interrupt.
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> 8.3 sorry
[10:48] <infinityxi> seems to be on par with your error though there is very little info to go on besides that error
[10:48] <Surlent777> ActionParsnip: Maybe, but it is terribly useful for organization
[10:48] <zhurai> nixot: meh
[10:48] <nixot> zhurai: :P
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: oh totally, you can name them anything you want
[10:48] <T-KILLER> infinityxi: thanks, just going to take a look
[10:48] <infinityxi> Surlent777: no they really aren't because they are arbitrary
[10:48] <infinityxi> i can name my text file textfile.mp3
[10:48] <zhurai> screwed up my /etc/group file, and now everything else is getting screwed up in ubuntu, and I have a frickin adware in this windows partition =_=
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: you'll find folks use .sh for shell scripts and .py for python but it doesnt make any difference :)
[10:49] <infinityxi> it just makes the filetype wrong in windows
[10:49] <Surlent777> ActionParsnip: I was meaning that it's nice when people stick to convention....for instance, it'd be great to know if ~/image is a picture or a tar file, for instance, without having to do extra work
[10:49] <nixot> infinityxi: Why would you want to do that?
[10:49] <zhurai> apparently, after I "edited" the groups in "Users and Groups" I lost my /etc/group, which I restored...somewhat.  I got back audio,video,gdm,sudo,admin, but I can't access shutdown/restart, certain System->Administration things (such as User and Groups again, Services, etc) as well as I have no internet connection (I have Atheros, which worked out of the box before)... umm I need help on fixing this (preferably without reinstalling ubuntu
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: precisely, but you can cross name if you wish
[10:49] <Surlent777> yeah, I realize that
[10:49] <T-KILLER> infinityxi: I have followed the thread you posted and it is of no use.  I'm using the 32 bit version of Ubuntu Server 9... Please help specific to 32 bit, thanks
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: or even make your own extension up that is very long
[10:49] <Guest86300> another question...in a makefile i have this line : "ARCH_DIR = $(if $(filter $(ARCH),x86_64 i386),x86,$(ARCH))" ....i would like to know the value of the ARCH-DIR variable....how could i do that?
[10:49] <zhurai> hm, I should make a timer that auto says that every 10 minutes or so =_=...bleh
[10:49] <infinityxi> T-KILLER: sorry about that
[10:49] <Surlent777> I got that idea from the "dot folders"
[10:49] <infinityxi> nixot: what are you talking about?
[10:50] <Surlent777> but yes, thanks for the advice, everyone
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> Guest86300: echo $ARCH_DIR
[10:50] <Surlent777> time to go to sleep, it's 3am here
[10:50] <Guest86300> ActionParsnip: i tried.....but nothing
[10:50] <zhurai> ...wow, he's in same timezone as me?
[10:50] <T-KILLER> infinityxi: I read the bit about the ffmpeg source code containing a file that was mis-named but i checked the source code folder and the file is named fine with the sextention *.lo not *.loT which was mentioned in the thred
[10:51] <lightbricko> In OpenOffice, How do I hide the "Page Number" from the first page in a document?
[10:51] <Guest86300> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/177071/
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> lightbricko: i'd ask in #openoffice.org
[10:51] <lightbricko> ActionParsnip: ok, thxc
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> Guest86300: why are you doing basic stuff like that as root?
[10:51] <infinityxi> lightbricko: http://www.tipsfor.us/2007/05/05/tip-of-the-day-hiding-the-first-page-number-in-openoffice/
[10:51] <infinityxi> it's all over the web
[10:52] <meganox> can anyone point me to any information at all that could help me troubleshoot why I can't burn CDs?  I don't know where to start.
[10:52] <Surlent777> OK, 1 more thing. Seems that there's a /root/.local/share/Trash or something like that
[10:52] <Surlent777> just how many Trash folders does one system need?!
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> meganox: what happens when you try? What apps have you tried to burn with?
[10:52] <nixot> is there a list of repositories that I could add to my computer anywhere on the web?
[10:52] <lightbricko> infinityxi: Thx
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: one for each user
[10:52] <Guest86300> long story but i have to know which is the value of ARCH_DIR could u help me?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> !trash | Surlent777
[10:52] <Surlent777> =O
[10:53] <zhurai> hm... apparently, after I "edited" the groups in "Users and Groups" I lost my /etc/group, which I restored...somewhat.  I got back audio,video,gdm,sudo,admin, but I can't access shutdown/restart, certain System->Administration things (such as User and Groups again, Services, etc) as well as I have no internet connection (I have Atheros, which worked out of the box before)... umm I need help on fixing this (preferably without reinstalling
[10:53] <Surlent777> I still have a ~./Trash folder
[10:53] <infinityxi> nixot: repositories for what?
[10:53] <zhurai> =_=
[10:53] <Surlent777> does this mean that it is now obsolete?
[10:53] <zhurai> x.x
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Guest86300: if the variable is not being set a value it will report as nothing, set it to something first, then if it gets changed you know the command is working
[10:53] <infinityxi> nixot: specific software for what?
[10:53] <zhurai> I should go to sleep, almost 3 AM, but I need this fixed ;-;;;;;
[10:53] <nixot> Ermm