[01:13] <edubuntu> sup?
[01:18] <rww> hi
[01:18] <rww> ubottu: tell edubuntu about membership
[01:18] <rww> edubuntu: please don't PM people without asking ;)
[01:23] <rww> http://paste.ubuntu.com/565638/
[01:23] <rww> what the eff o.O
[01:24] <JanC> hehe
[01:25] <JanC> there might be some translation issue too  ;)
[01:26] <rww> If you can find a plausible translation of that that isn't "I don't want to actually do anything, but help me get Ubuntu Membership anyway!", I'd be amused to hear it ;P
[01:29] <persia> Could be "I have no idea what sort of thing to do to help Ubuntu: please be my mentor"
[01:30] <persia> In some communities "spoil" means "guide" or "help"
[01:41] <rww> If that's the case, then English is even sillier than I thought.
[01:42] <JanC> could also be Ubuntu Member vs. a member of the Ubuntu community (more in general) or some other "membership" related to Ubuntu
[01:42] <persia> English is infinitely siily.
[01:43] <JanC> and that person clearly didn't speak English very well
[01:43] <persia> It started being the language used to order beer by conquerors, went through a phase where it was considered stylish to never spell the same word twice on the same page, and since has reveled in unnecessary neologisms
[01:43] <rww> I sometimes suspect it started as a practical joke.
[01:44] <persia> Nah.  It's (mostly) french mercenaries attempting to speak something akin to german in an age of mass illiteracy.
[01:45] <JanC> french with a partially scandinavian background  ;)
[01:45] <persia> Indeed: that french is horribly influenced by centuries of coastal raiding :)
[01:49] <JanC> oh, and probably some flemish too, as William the Conqueror was married to a Flemish princess who brought her own servants to his castle  ;)
[02:03] <persia> There wasn't such meaningful difference between flemish and german at that point, it was before the germans were consolidated (pre-literacy)
[11:29] <xdatap> hi guys. I would like the Ubuntu Member cloak. My Launchpad profile: https://launchpad.net/~xdatap1
[12:34] <vish> xdatap: you'll have to wait for one of the IRCC members to be around to approve the cloak.. :)
[12:36] <topyli> xdatap: one sec
[12:36] <xdatap> vish, ok, no problem, thanks for the anwer :)
[12:36] <topyli> need to poke a... oh hi nhandler!
[12:37] <nhandler> topyli: Need me?
[12:37] <topyli> staff for xdatap's cloaking ceremony :)
[12:38] <nhandler> xdatap: You are now cloaked
[12:38] <topyli> thanks nhandler
[12:39] <vish> yay! "ircc" highlights work :D
[12:39] <topyli> vish: yep :)
[12:39] <xdatap> thanks topyli  and nhandler :)
[12:39] <nhandler> b:)
[12:40] <xdatap> and vish of course :)
[12:40] <vish> can we mention that as "..ask IRCC" on the wiki itself https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Cloaks ? so that folks would know who to ping?
[12:40] <topyli> vish: nhandler has some advanced hilight ping system apparently. wasn't even online when you pinged!
[12:41] <vish> yea.. he is weird! but i was able to break his highlight system atleast once :D
[12:41] <nhandler> vish: It isn't a requirement and not all do it. I also think most of us are pretty good about checking this channel when we notice activity (the issue is when none of the council is around)
[12:42] <vish> k.. :)
[17:02] <xdatap> nhandler, hello
[17:05] <xdatap> Hi guys, anybody from IRCC online? This morning i got my cloak, but it's mispelled
[17:05] <Pici> heh
[17:05] <m4v> haha
[17:06] <xdatap> :)
[17:07] <Pici> xdatap: Do you know which staffer applied the cloak?
[17:07] <xdatap> nhandler, if i remember well
[17:07]  * k1l points at nhandler
[17:09] <Pici> jussi/tsimpson? ^
[17:09] <xdatap> my launchpad profile is: https://launchpad.net/people/xdatap1
[17:10] <Pici> marienz: I suppose you can't help with this unless the request actually comes from GC, right?
[17:11] <marienz> "membmer"?
[17:11] <marienz> curious. Give me a moment.
[17:11] <Pici> Yeah.  I'm not a GC anymore, so I can't authorize it.
[17:12]  * marienz decides having the original cloak request in his scrollback is good enough
[17:13] <xdatap> thanks marienz :)
[17:14] <jussi> xdatap: Hiya Paolo :)
[17:14] <jussi> marienz: if you had any doubt, Im ok with it :) :)
[17:14] <xdatap> hey Jussi! :)
[21:24] <sense> How do you make XChat (GNOME) export its logs in the weechat format that is needed for the MoinMoin IRC parser?
[21:26] <erUSUL> sense: you should ask in a xachat channel but i doubt xchat supports weechat format ...
[21:26] <erUSUL> sense: maybe you can transform one in the other with some sed/awk/perl/python/whatever ....
[21:27] <m4v> I even wonder if moinmoin does support weechat format, I use weechat but I had to convert it to irssi format
[21:27] <sense> erUSUL: Ok, thanks I'll look in an Xchat channel.
[21:27] <m4v> last time I put some logs in the wiki
[21:29] <sense> m4v: <http://moinmo.in/HelpOnParsers#diff.2C_cplusplus.2C_python.2C_java.2C_pascal.2C_irc.2BAC8-irssi_parsers>
[21:29] <sense> See the IRC entry in the table
[21:29] <sense> That is the {{{#irc }}} thing
[21:31] <m4v> I did read the help, but it didn't work when I tried it in wiki.ubuntu.com I don't know, maybe I didn't use the syntax right, but the thing confused me enough that when I saw it worked with irssi format I just used that.
[21:33] <m4v> and I was (still I am) surprised to see weechatlog and not other more common clients.
[21:34] <sense> apparently it is some sort of standard
[21:36] <m4v> the wee-standard?
[21:43] <sense> I think so.
[21:43] <sense> It is associated with a mime-type, according to that MoinMoin page.
[23:05] <JanC> sense: how does the "weechat logs" look like?
[23:06] <sense> JanC: Apparently something like the source of <http://wiki.ubuntu-nl.org/community/Meetings/Meeting20110110/Log>.
[23:06] <JanC> you can more or less define how xchat logs everything using a printf template
[23:06] <persia> And you can probably use a text processor like sed or perl to convert one format into another.
[23:06] <JanC> if the necessary data is available, yes
[23:07] <JanC> which looks like it shouldn't be an issue
[23:07] <JanC> that format is weird also
[23:07] <JanC> with the space in the nick?
[23:08] <sense> That doesn't seem to be a requirement for MoinMoin's parser. ;)
[23:10] <JanC> I doubt this is a standard moinmoin parser
[23:10] <JanC> sounds more like something somebody hacked togeteher at some point  ;)
[23:10] <JanC> probably Seveas  ;)
[23:11] <JanC> or maybe some other early Ubuntu IRC person
[23:56] <tsimpson> the space before the nick is probably to hold the voiced/opped flag (+/@)


[06:29] <Takyoji> Anyone favor a specific application on Ubuntu for viewing live broadcast streams as well as a live stream library, etc?


[06:02] <Unit193> I know I shouldn't ask this over the weekend, specifically at 1am.  But what's the criteria for getting riscv enabled for a PPA?
[06:23] <arraybolt3> Unit193: Forgive me if this is a silly suggestion, but if you have access to Bileto, I believe you can make a risc-v enabled PPA through that.
[06:24] <arraybolt3> (Personally, I just have a RISC-V emulator handy. If you needed me to build some packages for you, you could throw them at me and I can produce build logs and packages.)
[06:25] <Unit193> Not a core dev, so I presumed not.  I currently just dput to a staging PPA and let it fail or not on s390x, because that's where something is most likely to. :P
[06:26] <arraybolt3> K, makes sense. I'm booting the emulator now to update it, and will have it available to do builds in just a bit if you'd like.
[06:26] <arraybolt3> (Er... ok, might take more than "just a bit" but you get what I mean.)
[06:27] <Unit193> Nah, I just am pushing something to Debian soon, no big deal.  I don't expect it to fail anyway.
[07:58] <xypron> Unit193: Please, create a question on Launchpad itself asking to enable riscv64 for your ppa.
[13:54] <cjwatson> Unit193: Sorry, but we can only currently enable riscv64 for Canonical employees and Ubuntu core devs.  Hopefully this will change in the next few months, but for now that's where we are.  (I thought xypron knew this ...)
[18:01] <Unit193> cjwatson: Cool, thanks!  That answers the question quite well.


[00:13] <szakulec> hi- my tv capture card has s-video and coaxial, but my only option for audio is the coaxial- can I use S-video for video and coax for the audio?
[00:14] <Dr_willis_> Cant use the PC's sound card for Audio In?
[00:14] <szakulec> hadn't thought of it
[00:17] <szakulec> there doesn't seem to be a way to get the audio from the settop box to the computer without using coax
[00:41] <sung> so
[00:41] <sung> any of you know how to debug xvmc?
[01:01] <dmandell> Is there documentation on how to upgrade a Feisty myth frontend/backend to Mythbuntu?
[01:01] <sung> if it's not broken, don't break it!
[01:02] <dmandell> Well, I'm at least going to upgrade to Gutsy, I'd like to be able to upgrade my mythbox as updates are released so that it doesn't become a pain somewhere way down the road.
[01:05] <dwf_starband> do you know how to adjust the memmory settings in php so that mythweb will work properly?
[01:05] <MythbuntuGuest34> Anyone know how to get Mythbuntu working with avi files?
[01:06] <dwf_starband> you want to play avi files?
[01:06] <dwf_starband> you can do that through the mythvideo plugin
[01:09] <MythbuntuGuest34> not installed by default?
[01:09] <dwf_starband> i dont remember, just open your mythbuntu control centre and go to the applications and plugins tab and select the plugins you want to install and then apply
[01:10] <MythbuntuGuest34> they are all enabled...
[01:10] <MythbuntuGuest34> wounder if its a video driver problem
[01:11] <dwf_starband> ok have you set up the folder where your videos are stored?
[01:11] <MythbuntuGuest34> yea
[01:12] <dwf_starband> then went to Media Library then Watch Videos on the frontend?
[01:12] <MythbuntuGuest34> yeah...trys to open then closes imediatly
[01:13] <dwf_starband> can you play them in mplayer?
[01:13] <MythbuntuGuest34> no
[01:13] <MythbuntuGuest34> or xine
[01:13] <MythbuntuGuest34> the only file it plays is ISO
[01:13] <dwf_starband> then you probably dont have the codecs downloaded or something
[01:14] <dwf_starband> have you selected all the codecs in the mythbuntu control centre?
[01:15] <MythbuntuGuest34> nope...just did though
[01:17] <dwf_starband> im just learning myself, but it is my understanding that myth uses mplayer as the default player with the mythvideo plugin
[01:17] <dwf_starband> so if it doesnt play in mplayer, it wont play wth mythvideo
[01:18] <MythbuntuGuest34> well its taking its time to update packages....
[02:00] <solarbaby> I have 5 full beans on the ubuntuforum now..  Im becoming a God
[02:01] <dwf_starband> WOW!  I was impressed by the bean titles everyone had on there untill I read that they are randomly generated and have nothing to do with the nuber of beans anyone has
[02:04] <solarbaby> My beans are refried
[02:05] <dwf_starband> mmmmmm... just add cheese
[02:06] <solarbaby> Haggas Beans and Rice
[02:06] <solarbaby> W All American Cheese, sure ya why not
[02:07] <dwf_starband> i like the 3 cheese blend from costco, the cheapest cheese per pound and its already grated! what more could a man ask for?
[02:08] <solarbaby> where are you from?
[02:08] <dwf_starband> alaska
[02:08] <solarbaby> Im practicly in Las Vegas, Nevada
[02:09] <dwf_starband> i havent been to town since january, so i buy ALOT of cheese when im at costco
[02:09] <solarbaby> so your living out in the middle of nowhere eh?  same here
[02:09] <dwf_starband> 150 miles by plane, there are no roads to get here
[02:09] <solarbaby> Las Vegas is the closest big city to me, and thats 80 miles away
[02:10] <solarbaby> my house is completely electric..  we have a water pump that taps into the natural water underground
[02:10] <solarbaby> and a ceptic tank
[02:11] <solarbaby> internet is Satalite, and we also get Dish Network
[02:11] <dwf_starband> sounds like me
[02:11] <dwf_starband> where do you get your power?
[02:11] <dwf_starband> I heat with fuel oil though
[02:11] <solarbaby> theres an electric company close by..  our town is big enough to have a phone company and electric..  and 2 whore houses
[02:12] <solarbaby> the phone company wont support dsl though.. that really pisses me off
[02:12] <dwf_starband> our village has an electric co-op that runs generators big enough for everyone
[02:13] <solarbaby> right on
[02:13] <solarbaby> some people like Alaska..  I still haven't figured out the attraction but its enough to keep people living there by choice
[02:13] <dwf_starband> the phone company has a houge dish here and underground wires through the village
[02:14] <dwf_starband> what is the temp there right now?
[02:14] <solarbaby> its evening now..  I'd say 65
[02:14] <dwf_starband> thats why people live here
[02:14] <dwf_starband> thats a good summer temp
[02:14] <solarbaby> this afternoone could have been in the low 80's
[02:15] <dwf_starband> you cant realy work comfortably it its over 80
[02:15] <solarbaby> Am I nuts or does Alaska have unusually long days?
[02:16] <dwf_starband> where i am the days are about 23 hours long in the summer and 5 in the winter
[02:16] <solarbaby> thats what I thought..  man I could totally get used to that ;)
[02:16] <dwf_starband> what company do you get your satalite internet from?
[02:16] <solarbaby> Wild Blue
[02:17] <dwf_starband> the cool thing in the summer, is the days are long but since its never dark, you dont get tired, you can live on 5 hours of sleep a night for 3 months
[02:17] <solarbaby> hehe
[02:17] <dwf_starband> ive got starband, but an older model modem and its pretty flakey
[02:18] <solarbaby> When its dark here, the Stars can sometimes look amazing..  but I dont really like nighttime in the desert cause of all the snakes and scorpians and other creepy stuff
[02:18] <dwf_starband> do you know anything about mythweb giving an error when searching for shows, about excedig the memory limits?
[02:18] <dwf_starband> the northern lights are pretty cool here sometimes
[02:18] <solarbaby> Yeah..  if you leave your search query blank then it overwelms it
[02:19] <dwf_starband> but what about for their preselected searches, like "movies"
[02:19] <solarbaby> that seems to work fine for me..  I get 7 days of EPG data..  if you have more then that, you might run into problems I never see
[02:20] <dwf_starband> i dont think i ever set any setings, but it seems like about 2 weeks from scheduals direct, what is epg?
[02:21] <solarbaby> EPG is that TV programming information you download from Schedules Direct
[02:21] <dwf_starband> oh, ok
[02:21] <solarbaby> Episode Program Guide I think is what it stands for
[02:21] <dwf_starband> you into the solar scene? is that what your name is about
[02:21] <dwf_starband> ?
[02:22] <solarbaby> not so much as you would think..  there was a movie I saw when I was a little boy.. a really badly rated movie at that.. called Solarbabys..  I really liked it
[02:22] <dwf_starband> oh, ok
[02:23] <solarbaby> not a bad nickname either..  I've come across a few of them on the internet but its not over used
[02:23] <dwf_starband> yeah
[02:24] <TheQuank> Hi, anyone else had their computer radomly freexe and the caps and scroll lock lights on the key board start blinking?
[02:26] <solarbaby> that happend to me in windows
[02:27] <TheQuank> strange huh? This thing doesn't seem to be under a huge load either...
[02:28] <solarbaby> you might have some hardware going bad.. ram doesn't last forever
[02:28] <dwf_starband> I have an external drive that seems to be kind of flakey, sometimes when using it the computer will freeze, but I dont remember any flashing lights
[02:28] <solarbaby> flashing lights might be an error code you could look up
[02:28] <dwf_starband> i use a wireless keyboard though so i wouldnt (there arent lights except a low battery)
[02:29] <TheQuank> googling now, but all this gear is only a couple years old...
[02:30] <solarbaby> Your motherboard might have certain error codes that it will use in cobination with blinky lights and beep codes
[02:31] <solarbaby> bad ram would certainly be something it would want to convey to you
[02:31] <TheQuank> hummm, apears I am not the only one: Bug #130247
[02:31] <solarbaby> the reason I mention bad ram so often is because ram is cheap and easy to test
[02:32] <TheQuank> yes....and at that I only have 512 in this box.
[02:32] <TheQuank> only have one tuner for now though...
[02:32] <solarbaby> you could easily have a bad hard drive cable too..  it could be many inexpensive possibilities
[02:38] <TheQuank> Are all the Transcoding defaults supposed to be set to RTjepg?
[04:24] <MythbuntuGuest32> does mythbuntu supports capturing hd video from a hd video camera?
[04:25] <foxbuntu> MythbuntuGuest32 you could prob make it work over a connection like the std inputs or via Firewire...however directly no..
[04:26] <MythbuntuGuest32> i do have firewire but does has software to capture hd video
[04:26] <MythbuntuGuest32> ?
[04:27] <foxbuntu> what do you mean? MythTV can do HDTV
[04:28] <troy_s> hd from dv is fine as long as you dont get into dvc50 or dvcpro100
[04:30] <MythbuntuGuest32> like in windows i use sony  vegas or adobe software to capture hd video? is there similiar software in mythbuntu?
[04:30] <MythbuntuGuest32> or in linux general
[04:30] <MythbuntuGuest32> ?
[04:30] <foxbuntu> MythTV handles all of that
[04:31] <foxbuntu> it does not do editing and its not a capture suite like those softwares however
[04:31] <MythbuntuGuest32> oh i see
[04:31] <MythbuntuGuest32> thank you very much for help then
[04:32] <foxbuntu> np
[04:44] <CCB0x45> hey
[04:44] <CCB0x45> im trying to build vlc
[04:44] <CCB0x45> and when I configure I get error: C compiler cant creat executables
[04:44] <foxbuntu> CCB0x45, why are you building it from source?
[04:45] <CCB0x45> I wanna add the streaming options so I can try to get mythstreamtv to work
[04:45] <CCB0x45> I really wanna stream live tv
[04:45] <foxbuntu> CCB0x45, are you working from trunk?
[04:46] <CCB0x45> just off vlcs site
[04:46] <CCB0x45> the latest source
[04:46] <CCB0x45> it says it after checking for C compiler default output file name
[04:46] <foxbuntu> CCB0x45, I think the the TV streaming in Myth only works in Trunk
[04:47] <CCB0x45> well im not using built in streaming
[04:47] <CCB0x45> im using myth stream tv
[04:47] <CCB0x45> its a module
[04:47] <CCB0x45> I just need to compile vlc with streaming enabled
[04:47] <CCB0x45> it uses vlcs streaming
[04:49] <CCB0x45> I have the options to configure vlc
[04:49] <CCB0x45> but when I configure it says that
[04:49] <foxbuntu> CCB0x45, you can try this, however we don't provide much support for Trunk or Plugins not provided via Mythbuntu
[04:49] <foxbuntu> http://www.shantanu.biz/html/mythtv/mythstreamtv.html
[04:50] <CCB0x45> im not using trunk man
[04:50] <CCB0x45> and that site just says configure vlc
[04:50] <CCB0x45> I know the configure options
[04:50] <CCB0x45> its failing because it says C compiler cant create executables
[04:51] <foxbuntu> CCB0x45, Streaming via Mythweb is part of 0.21-trunk
[04:51] <CCB0x45> omg
[04:51] <foxbuntu> do a pastebin and I will look at the error
[04:51] <CCB0x45> im using mythstreamtv
[04:51] <CCB0x45> its a plugin for mythtv and myth web
[04:51] <CCB0x45> not the trunk
[04:51] <CCB0x45> mythstreamtv is an older plugin designed for .19
[04:51] <foxbuntu> !pastebin | CCB0x45
[04:51] <ubotu> CCB0x45: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:52] <CCB0x45> I am trying to hack it together so I can post how for other people
[04:52] <CCB0x45> please dont tell me what pastebin is lol, I pasted you the error but I can give you more
[04:53] <foxbuntu> CCB0x45, I was giving you the link
[04:53] <CCB0x45> http://pastebin.com/m1ad2d579
[04:53] <foxbuntu> CCB0x45, if you want to act like that I can not offer any help at all
[04:53] <foxbuntu> CCB0x45, please post your config.log as well
[04:54] <CCB0x45> its huge and the bottom just says config error: 77
[04:54] <CCB0x45> but I can paste it if youd like
[04:54] <Dr_willis> Hmm. Testing out the 'archive recordings' feature. Using the keyboard. I can arrow around and select a few recordings.. but cant seem get to the 'OK' Button.   I hit escape and it goes up one menu.. Am i missong somthing here. or is the UI just a little confusing?
[04:54] <superm1> build-essential
[04:54] <superm1> install it
[04:55] <CCB0x45> http://pastebin.com/m5fa66906
[04:55] <superm1> CCB0x45, you sure the VLC with ubuntu doesn't have streaming support?
[04:55] <superm1> CCB0x45, i dont see why it would have been disabled if it is
[04:55] <CCB0x45> superm1, ah build-essential
[04:55] <superm1> CCB0x45, a bug should probably be filed about that if its not already
[04:56] <CCB0x45> thanks, I forgot I hadnt installed build-essential
[04:56] <CCB0x45> superm1, I just assumed it wasnt
[04:56] <superm1> CCB0x45, why?
[04:56] <CCB0x45> I didnt really know how to test if it was or not
[04:56] <CCB0x45> because all the new wikis on how to get mythstream working said you had to recompile it
[04:57] <superm1> and they referred to ubuntu?
[04:57] <CCB0x45> and Nikas said that he had to recompile it
[04:57] <CCB0x45> but he was running a little older
[04:57] <CCB0x45> no none of them refer to ubuntu at all
[04:57] <superm1> well i wouldn't say thats a safe assumption then :)
[04:57] <CCB0x45> haha
[04:57] <superm1> i know at least personally i try to add as much support to any packages i touch in ubuntu
[04:58] <CCB0x45> oh ok
[04:58] <CCB0x45> well hmm
[04:58] <superm1> i'm touching mplayer 1.0~rc2 right now, and adding at least 6 more build deps to add more support to it particularly
[04:58] <superm1> and there are plenty of people like me, so its very possible vlc has that support
[04:59] <CCB0x45> hmm
[04:59] <CCB0x45> mythstream is giving me a link
[04:59] <CCB0x45> but vlc wont open it
[05:00] <superm1> well what is the link?
[05:01] <CCB0x45> mms://ccbtop.kicks-ass.org:8001
[05:01] <superm1> well i'd look at the log that mythstreamtv creates
[05:01] <superm1> when you clikc that link
[05:01] <superm1> see what command it is issuing to try to start a streaming server
[05:02] <CCB0x45> which command mythweb is trying
[05:02] <CCB0x45> or mythstreamtv?
[05:02] <CCB0x45> you mean?
[05:02] <CCB0x45> or what command my mac is trying/
[05:02] <superm1> what command the backend is issuing
[05:02] <superm1> when you click that link
[05:03] <superm1> that starts some sort of streaming server
[05:03] <CCB0x45>  /usr/bin/vlc -I http --http-host=:8002 --sout-transcode-fps=$FPS --sout-transcode-deinterlace $1 ":sout=#transcode{vcodec=$VCODEC,acodec=$ACODEC,vb=$VB,ab=$AB,scale=$SIZE}:std{access=mmsh,mux=asfh,url=:8001}
[05:03] <CCB0x45> it wrote this too hmm
[05:03] <CCB0x45> [00000282] main interface: creating httpd
[05:03] <CCB0x45> [00000288] stream_out_transcode private error: cannot find encoder ((null))
[05:03] <CCB0x45> [00000288] stream_out_transcode private error: cannot create audio chain
[05:03] <CCB0x45> [00000301] main packetizer error: cannot create packetizer output (mpga)
[05:03] <superm1> so it didn't choose a good encoder
[05:03] <superm1> choose a different one
[05:05] <CCB0x45> I have no idea where it is picking that
[05:06] <CCB0x45> let me look around
[05:10] <CCB0x45> ah wait
[05:10] <CCB0x45> may have found a fix
[05:13] <superm1> what'd you find?
[05:14] <CCB0x45> damn still didnt work
[05:14] <CCB0x45> this looks like the section
[05:14] <CCB0x45>      if [ $PROTOCOL = "mms" ]; then
[05:14] <CCB0x45>         /usr/bin/vlc -I http --http-host=:8002  --sout-transcode-fps=$FPS --sout-transcode-deinterlace $1 :sout="#transcode{vcodec=$VCODEC,acodec=$ACODEC,vb=$VB,ab=$AB,scale=$SIZE}:std{access=mmsh,mux=ogg,url=:8001}"
[05:14] <CCB0x45>       elif [ $PROTOCOL = "http" ]; then
[05:14] <CCB0x45>         /usr/bin/vlc -I http --http-host=:8002  --sout-transcode-fps=$FPS --sout-transcode-deinterlace $1 :sout="#transcode{vcodec=$VCODEC,acodec=$ACODEC,vb=$VB,ab=$AB,scale=$SIZE}:std{access=http,mux=ogg,url=:8080}"
[05:14] <CCB0x45>       fi
[05:22] <CCB0x45> ah wait
[05:22] <CCB0x45> superm1 do you know the name of an encoder
[05:22] <CCB0x45> I should try?
[05:22] <superm1> for vlc?
[05:22] <superm1> no.
[05:22] <CCB0x45> yea
[05:22] <superm1> i have only ever used the gui
[05:22] <superm1> to do it
[05:22] <CCB0x45> to encode something?
[05:22] <superm1> yeah
[05:24] <CCB0x45> I think ffmpeg
[05:24] <CCB0x45> would be the encoder right
[05:24] <superm1> i'm really not sure what it wants at this point.
[05:24] <superm1> ffmpeg is an encoder
[05:24] <superm1> so is mencoder
[05:25] <superm1> but vlc can do this kind of stuff without them
[05:25] <CCB0x45> hmm
[05:29] <CCB0x45> aahhh
[05:29] <CCB0x45> lol
[05:29] <CCB0x45> I tried the command
[05:29] <CCB0x45> it is streaming it in like ascii
[05:29] <CCB0x45> whoa
[05:29] <CCB0x45> that is weird
[05:32] <CCB0x45> superm1
[05:32] <CCB0x45> do you have an mms player?
[05:32] <CCB0x45> that you know will play streams?
[05:32] <superm1> doesn't vlc?
[05:33] <superm1> i'm pretty sure VLC does
[05:33] <CCB0x45> I thought so
[05:34] <superm1> do you have a stream you wanted me to try?
[05:34] <superm1> or something?
[05:34] <CCB0x45> yea
[05:34] <CCB0x45> mms://ccbtop.kicks-ass.org:8001
[05:36] <superm1> connected
[05:36] <superm1> but nothin there
[05:38] <CCB0x45> I need to figure out where these variables are coming from
[05:57] <CCB0x45> hey superm1
[05:58] <superm1> yeah
[05:58] <CCB0x45> could you try this command for me if possible?
[05:58] <CCB0x45> this is what its trying to run
[05:58] <CCB0x45> youd have to try with your own .mpg file
[05:58] <CCB0x45> [00000294] stream_out_transcode private error: cannot find encoder ((null))
[05:58] <CCB0x45> oops
[05:58] <CCB0x45> wrong paste
[05:58] <CCB0x45> ill pastebin it one sec
[05:58] <CCB0x45> http://pastebin.com/m43ed9010
[05:59] <superm1> i dont have an mpg file with me atm
[05:59] <superm1> i'm not at home...
[05:59] <CCB0x45> ah shit
[05:59] <CCB0x45> ah well
[05:59] <superm1> someone else in here might be able to?
[05:59] <CCB0x45> it would be sweet to get mythstreamtv working
[06:00] <CCB0x45> could add it to mythbuntu
[06:00] <CCB0x45> its a really nice plugin
[06:00] <superm1> yeah it would
[06:01] <superm1> if you do end up to sort it out, i can help you get it into a proper deb
[06:01] <superm1> and push it to hardy and all
[06:01] <CCB0x45> cool
[06:01] <CCB0x45> im trying
[06:01] <CCB0x45> I know thats the command its trying to run
[06:02] <CCB0x45> but I dunno why vlc is saying the encoder is null
[06:02] <CCB0x45> I have tried 3 different encoder values
[06:05] <CCB0x45> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-maintainers/2007-August/000405.html
[06:05] <CCB0x45> that doesnt look good
[06:05] <superm1> CCB0x45, does that have to be a mpg file for that to work?
[06:22] <CCB0x45> superm1 no
[06:22] <CCB0x45> I think it can be any file
[06:22] <CCB0x45> vlc would be transcoding it anyways
[06:23] <superm1> well it appears to be missing other options
[06:23] <superm1> i tried it with a xvid file
[06:23] <CCB0x45> I think vlc
[06:23] <superm1> and got the same problem
[06:23] <CCB0x45> needs to be recompiled
[06:23] <superm1> i've done this in the GUI
[06:23] <superm1> with that same file though
[06:23] <superm1> and didn't have any issues
[06:23] <CCB0x45> really
[06:24] <CCB0x45> hmm
[06:24] <superm1> yeah
[06:24] <CCB0x45> how do you do it with the gui?
[06:29] <superm1> file  Wizard
[06:30] <CCB0x45> hmm
[06:30] <CCB0x45> one sec
[06:33] <CCB0x45> superm1
[06:33] <CCB0x45> ok that works
[06:34] <CCB0x45> so this thing can stream...
[06:34] <CCB0x45> hmm
[06:34] <CCB0x45> its using ASF there
[06:34] <superm1> look at the command line it issued to do it
[06:34] <superm1> because it does show you in the window i believe
[06:35] <CCB0x45> k one sec
[06:35] <CCB0x45> where
[06:35] <CCB0x45> I dont see it?
[06:35] <CCB0x45> superm1 is there any way to stream the capture card input through the gui?
[06:36] <superm1> yeah i believe you can do that too
[06:36] <superm1> its a little more complicated
[06:36] <superm1> since you cant use the wizard
[06:36] <superm1> but more or less file->open and choose the V4L tab
[06:36] <superm1> and use the advanced options at the bottom
[06:37] <CCB0x45> lol
[06:37] <CCB0x45> the window is too big
[06:37] <CCB0x45> to see the bottom
[06:37] <superm1> you can move it around by holding alt
[06:37] <superm1> and then clicking on it
[06:37] <superm1> and dragging it
[06:37] <CCB0x45> ah wow
[06:37] <CCB0x45> never knew that
[06:38] <CCB0x45> that really helps
[06:38] <CCB0x45> ah this gives you the command
[06:38] <CCB0x45> I think
[06:39] <superm1> or at least the options it was using on the command
[06:39] <CCB0x45> you do advanced options
[06:39] <CCB0x45> and stream, right
[06:39] <CCB0x45> settings
[06:40] <CCB0x45> it worked when I loaded an mpg but not from there
[06:40] <CCB0x45> do you use http?
[06:41] <superm1> i did it via a multicast actually
[06:41] <CCB0x45> let me try that
[06:41] <superm1> well
[06:41] <superm1> that isn't good for the purpose you want
[06:41] <superm1> it is really only good on a local network that you can create a multicast address for people to connect to
[06:41] <CCB0x45> ah ok
[06:41] <CCB0x45> so I should use http
[06:41] <superm1> and you'd have to read up a little bit on how multicast works
[06:41] <CCB0x45> maybe its not /dev/video
[06:41] <superm1> to understand it
[06:42] <superm1> no its not
[06:43] <superm1> its like /dev/video0
[06:43] <superm1> or /dev/video1
[06:43] <CCB0x45> yea
[06:43] <CCB0x45> it is
[06:43] <superm1> usually
[06:43] <CCB0x45> its video0 I just checked
[06:43] <CCB0x45> but is my sound dsp?
[06:43] <superm1> um what kind of card is this?
[06:43] <superm1> a PVR-XXX ?
[06:43] <CCB0x45> pvr150
[06:43] <CCB0x45> yea
[06:44] <superm1> then use the PVR tab
[06:44] <CCB0x45> ah
[06:44] <CCB0x45> just saw that
[06:44] <CCB0x45> lol
[06:44] <CCB0x45> when you mentiond it
[06:44] <CCB0x45> holy shit
[06:44] <CCB0x45> I think its working
[06:45] <CCB0x45> umm
[06:45] <CCB0x45> except its all static
[06:45] <CCB0x45> this is weird
[06:46] <CCB0x45> ok wtf
[06:46] <CCB0x45> myth tv stopped working
[06:47] <CCB0x45> nm its working again
[06:47] <CCB0x45> vlc had a hold of the video device
[06:47] <CCB0x45> but why is it static...
[06:47] <CCB0x45> wtf
[06:47] <CCB0x45> lol
[06:47] <CCB0x45> now I played it again
[06:47] <CCB0x45> and it works fine
[06:47] <CCB0x45> this is sweet
[06:48] <superm1> okay so if you can figure out how to fix up that command as its issued in mythweb, you'll be set now
[06:48] <superm1> since you can see the "good" one passed in vlc
[06:48] <superm1> now aren't you glad you didnt go and recompile vlc?
[06:48] <superm1> :)
[06:50] <CCB0x45> yea except
[06:50] <CCB0x45> I still think the reason its not working is because vlc needs to be recompiled
[06:50] <CCB0x45> I dont think vlc has either the right version of ffmpeg compiled into it
[06:50] <CCB0x45> so it doesnt have the mpeg encoder
[06:50] <CCB0x45> when its doing this streaming its using a different encoder
[06:51] <CCB0x45> jesus it streams at good quality
[06:51] <CCB0x45> the other thing is
[06:51] <CCB0x45> it doesnt give you the whole command
[06:51] <CCB0x45> just the end options
[06:53] <CCB0x45> ah there is transcoding options
[06:53] <CCB0x45> how can I get that command
[06:53] <CCB0x45> hmmm
[06:55] <CCB0x45> this is sweet
[06:56] <CCB0x45> superm1 it only gives like the second half of the command
[06:57] <superm1> well who needs that first half.
[06:57] <superm1> :)
[06:57] <CCB0x45> wait
[06:57] <CCB0x45> I think I figured it out
[06:59] <CCB0x45> well crap
[07:01] <CCB0x45> trying to run what it runs doesnt work
[07:02] <CCB0x45> from what I can tell this is the command it is running when it does that
[07:02] <CCB0x45> vlc pvr:// :pvr-device="/dev/video0" :pvr-radio-device="/dev/radio0"
[07:02] <CCB0x45> :pvr-norm=0 :pvr-frequency=-1 :pvr-bitrate=-1 :sout=#transcode{vcodec=mp4v,vb=192,scale=0.5,acodec=mpga,ab=64,channels=1}:duplicate{dst=std{access=http,mux=asf,dst=:8080}}
[07:02] <CCB0x45> but when I run it from the command line I get this
[07:02] <CCB0x45> I could make mythstream tv work sweet if I get this to work
[07:02] <CCB0x45> but only for pvrs
[07:03] <solarbaby> superm1: Hey, I forgot to ask you for that url again so I could make that comment on the forums for you
[07:04] <superm1> solarbaby, which url?
[07:04] <superm1> solarbaby, the one to the mythbuntu forums?
[07:04] <solarbaby> superm1: the patch for 350
[07:04] <superm1> oh right.
[07:04] <superm1> that's on launchpad
[07:04] <solarbaby> superm1: I've tested this thing completely
[07:04] <superm1> and it works right?
[07:04] <solarbaby> superm1: couldn't be better
[07:04] <superm1> speaking of which, i need to find out why the archive admins haven't released my update yet to proposed
[07:05] <superm1> solarbaby, once i get it released i'll get you the url to comment on
[07:05] <solarbaby> superm1: sure thing, just let me know whenever
[07:05] <superm1> ok will do
[07:06] <solarbaby> superm1: I even got this thing to play avi files, but it does a sucky job of it
[07:06] <superm1> solarbaby, well mplayer has some accelerated support for this sort of thing, but i'm not sure if that's in gutsy
[07:06] <solarbaby> superm1: so I still need my xbox frontend for that kinda stuff.. but I think thats a limitation of the hardware and nothing else
[07:06] <superm1> i'm working on the new mplayer package for hardy
[07:07] <superm1> but for avi, i'm not all that sure either way
[07:07] <solarbaby> superm1: I'll test out what I can
[07:07] <solarbaby> superm1: I wouldn't work too hard on getting avi's to work right with the 350..  I have a feeling it just wont work well
[07:07] <superm1> well i'm just saying in the process of merging the new mplayer hardy package
[07:08] <superm1> i saw the added support for ivtv cards
[07:08] <superm1> so it may help
[07:08] <superm1> may not
[07:08] <solarbaby> superm1: although I do have an idea.. if your willing..  you could create an option for mythtv to transcode avi to mpg on the fly using ffmpg or something
[07:09] <solarbaby> thats how GBPVR makes it possible to play avi's through the Hauppage MVP
[07:10] <superm1> solarbaby, well a method to automate that i'm not sure
[07:10] <superm1> let alone if it would help enough
[07:11] <solarbaby> works sweet on GBPVR..  just an idea..  dont know if its worth all the hassle..  although to anyone with hardware limitations they'd be pretty stoked
[07:11] <CCB0x45> superm1... this is so weird
[07:11] <CCB0x45> I really think this is the command its running
[07:11] <CCB0x45> vlc pvr:// :pvr-device="/dev/video0" :pvr-radio-device="/dev/radio0" :pvr-norm=0 :pvr-frequency=-1 :pvr bitrate=-1 :sout=#transcode{vcodec=mp4v,vb=192,scale=0.5,acodec=mpga,ab=64,channels=1}:duplicate{dst=std{access=http,mux=asf,dst=:8080}}
[07:11] <solarbaby> that was the 1 reason I didn't wanna switch to MythTV
[07:11] <CCB0x45> but
[07:11] <CCB0x45> when I run that from the command line
[07:11] <CCB0x45> it starts playing my tv in ascii
[07:11] <CCB0x45> lol
[07:12] <CCB0x45> which I think is the vlc ascii player I guess
[07:12] <CCB0x45> but when I do it with the gui
[07:12] <CCB0x45> it doesnt play it just creates the stream
[07:14] <superm1> CCB0x45, hm
[07:14] <superm1> CCB0x45, you are missing more options
[07:15] <superm1> see the thing is the duplicate bit
[07:15] <superm1> it is showing it on the option listed for duplicate
[07:15] <CCB0x45> whats duplicate?
[07:15] <superm1> as well as whatever frontend it can find (be it ascii or xv etc)
[07:20] <CCB0x45> alright!
[07:20] <CCB0x45> it was the duplicate
[07:20] <CCB0x45> this command works:
[07:20] <CCB0x45> vlc pvr:// :pvr-device="/dev/video0" :pvr-radio-device="/dev/radio0" :pvr-norm=0 :pvr-frequency=-1 :pvr bitrate=-1 :sout=#transcode{vcodec=mp4v,vb=192,scale=0.5,acodec=mpga,ab=64,channels=1}:std{access=http,mux=asf,dst=:8080}
[07:22] <CCB0x45> but myth stream is such a POS right now
[07:22] <CCB0x45> its gonna take a lot of hacking to make this work right
[07:22] <CCB0x45> but its so awesome
[07:22] <CCB0x45> my thing is a slingbox now
[07:23] <CCB0x45> oh crap
[07:23] <CCB0x45> that command wasnt working
[07:24] <superm1> the reason i never packaged it was because it looked like quite the hack in the first place
[07:24] <superm1> and i didn't know whether it was worthwhile to sort out
[07:24] <CCB0x45> it is a hack
[07:25] <CCB0x45> its basically a small interface
[07:25] <CCB0x45> to run a vlc command
[07:25] <CCB0x45> really funny watching this in ascii over terminal
[07:26] <CCB0x45> im just happy that I can stream it at all right now
[07:33] <CCB0x45> im gonna try to fix it up
[07:34] <CCB0x45> so it if I could get this command right
[07:34] <CCB0x45> I could probably fix it up in a couple hours so it could stream your tv and recordings
[07:38] <CCB0x45> since the command is the hard part for me
[07:38] <CCB0x45> editing the php is easy for me
[07:40] <superm1> well keep track of your changes
[07:40] <superm1> as long as you can have a set of changes against a base package, this can be made into a deb
[07:42] <CCB0x45> ok I will
[07:42] <CCB0x45> it would be a lot of changes to the php stuff
[07:45] <CCB0x45> is there a way to get the clipboard from vnc?
[07:45] <CCB0x45> but it does write channels=1
[07:45] <CCB0x45> in the settings
[07:47] <superm1> i dont know about the vnc
[07:47] <CCB0x45> its so annoying
[07:47] <CCB0x45> im used to ARD
[07:47] <CCB0x45> where you can get the clipboard and just drag stuff across
[07:48] <stuckshut> hey guys, I'm encountering a crash in the mythbuntu installer. at about 83% it fails and says Timezoneapply failed with code 1
[07:48] <stuckshut> anybody else been having that problem?
[07:48] <CCB0x45> try a different time zone
[07:49] <stuckshut> I've tried a few now, same problem
[07:49] <CCB0x45> weird
[07:49] <superm1> stuckshut, what other options did you pick?
[07:49] <CCB0x45> superm1 probably knows more
[07:51] <stuckshut> are there any particular options that would make a difference?
[07:51] <superm1> stuckshut, well just people have found very odd bugs
[07:51] <superm1> from options that we would have never thought to test
[07:51] <superm1> it can be stuff ranging from languages
[07:51] <superm1> to removing a plugin
[07:52] <stuckshut> hrm. well, i've tried both english and no localization for language
[07:54] <CCB0x45> im so stoked that vlc gui streams like that
[07:54] <CCB0x45> this thing is a slingbox nw
[07:54] <CCB0x45> now
[07:54] <stuckshut> it's a primary backend + frontend, the plugins i've kept at everything installed so far. i've added the mythtv service, and chosen the appropriate options for a hauppauge 350 and it's associated remote
[07:58] <superm1> hm okay well nothing out of the ordinary there.
[07:58] <superm1> can you pastebin your /var/log/syslog?
[07:58] <superm1> !pastebin | stuckshut
[07:58] <ubotu> stuckshut: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:59] <stuckshut> sure. i'm trying it again with different options so i'll just wait until it crashes again ...
[08:15] <tazgodx> if i have an LVM set up, and i just remover one of the LVM drives from the machine, what happens?
[08:16] <superm1> the lvm doesn't owrk
[08:16] <superm1> or work even
[08:16] <stuckshut> holy crap, i think it worked
[08:17] <stuckshut> i had been setting a root password for mysql during the install process, apparently it didn't like that
[08:17] <tazgodx> but will the drives that are still plugged in show up? or will nothign show up?
[08:18] <superm1> stuckshut, hm well that's odd, in my tests root pw for mysql worked out fine
[08:19] <superm1> wonder what sort of corner case you hit
[08:19] <stuckshut> no idea, that was the only option i changed this time though. very strange
[08:20] <superm1> can you file a bug with a list of all the options you picked, and we'll try to reproduce it at some point this cycle?
[08:20] <superm1> try to be as specific as you can
[08:20] <stuckshut> sure
[08:31] <solarbaby> alright so I for the very first time flagged my commercials manually..  that took longer then I thought it would take.. even with a keyboard instead of using the remote control
[08:32] <solarbaby> im starting to think that even though this is supposed to be a convenience its probably the long way
[08:33] <solarbaby> although I kind of got a kick out of doing it on the TV
[08:45] <solarbaby> alright well cool transcoding works..  tomorrow I'll have to look into transcoding to avi and see how that works out
[08:46] <solarbaby> Auto Gordian Knot works so well for Avi's I find it hard to believe I can do better, but hopefully it wont be any worse either
[09:08] <tazgodx> solarbaby: are you setting up jobs to transcode?
[12:24] <MythbuntuGuest68> hello everyone
[12:30] <MythbuntuGuest21> ..
[12:31] <Cenwesi> anyone up?
[16:38] <MythbuntuGuest01> hello
[16:39] <MythbuntuGuest01> Is someone out there that can help with a problem?
[16:40] <dwf_starband> ive got to go to work, but if its quick and easy i might be able to
[16:40] <MythbuntuGuest01> I think I messed up the MySql aspect.  On the MCC MySQL service is gray and I can't enable/disable it.
[16:42] <dwf_starband> its greyed out on mine as well, but everything works
[16:42] <dwf_starband> I think you change that stuff with the Launch MythTv setup,
[16:43] <dwf_starband> you will have to ask one of the experts here if that doesnt help, though
[16:43] <dwf_starband> good luck
[19:12] <MythbuntuGuest97> Hi all! Quick question.... I have a copy of mythbunto from a month or so ago - not sure what build. I have to run mythfilldatabase manually every so often or my listings are not retrieved. It works fine when run manually.
[19:12] <MythbuntuGuest97> Any ideas?
[19:16] <KjetilK> I'm trying to figure out if I should go for a light frontend or a everything in one box solution
[19:17] <KjetilK> It would be important that the TV card (probably a simple Hauppauge PVR-150) is in the living room box, since it would be a pain to get the antenna to the backend box
[19:17] <KjetilK> how much would that complicate the front?
[19:19] <KjetilK> Also, I want to try out amarok as music player, I guess that would mean a normal thin client thing, but I guess that could also complicate a light front setup?
[19:28] <rambo3> ama troll
[19:34] <MythbuntuGuest78> When i try to run mythstream i get an error saying that it was compiled against a different libmyth then what i have, what can i do?
[19:36] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest78, is this on mythbuntu?
[19:36] <MythbuntuGuest78> yes
[19:39] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest78, how did you install mythstream?
[19:40] <dattas> using the control center
[19:41] <tgm4883_laptop> and this is an install from the final release?
[19:41] <dattas> yes it is
[19:41] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[19:41] <tgm4883_laptop> thats strange
[19:41] <tgm4883_laptop> any other errors?
[19:41] <dattas> but i added your guyses trunk build, but i guess that does not include the mythstream?
[19:42] <tgm4883_laptop> that would be the problem
[19:42] <tgm4883_laptop> afaik unofficial plugins are not covered in trunk
[19:42] <dattas> ah, so how do i rebuild mythstream with the newest libmyth?
[19:45] <Daviey> tgm4883_laptop: could this be a PPA issue?
[19:46] <tgm4883_laptop> Daviey, i'm not even sure if mythstream is in the PPA
[19:46] <Daviey> Ah, you've already caught it
[19:46] <Daviey> tgm4883_laptop: yeah, but if the rest of my gets upgraded and leaves mythstream, would cause version mismatch
[19:47] <tgm4883_laptop> It shouldn't, until you upgrade to .21 (or .20.3)
[19:47] <Daviey> dattas: why did you enabled trunk?
[19:47] <Daviey> tgm4883_laptop: he's running trunk..
[19:47] <dattas> i like the features that are in it
[19:47] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[19:47] <Daviey> dattas: what new ones?
[19:48] <tgm4883_laptop> Daviey, this is true.  Perhaps it just needs compiled with .21 which i would suggest downloading the source package ten
[19:48] <tgm4883_laptop> then
[19:48] <dattas> updated mythweb, being able to watch the shows over mythweb in flash
[19:48] <dattas> mostly
[19:49] <Daviey> dattas: that's the only thing that is tempting me to upgrade my production system
[19:49] <dattas> thats why i upgraded
[19:49] <dattas> beacuse when i go home on the weekends i like to be able to watch my shows :D
[19:50] <Daviey> When i go home, i turn on the TV - streaming is surely better used when *not* at home
[19:50] <Daviey> :/
[19:50] <dattas> my mythtv box is in my dorm
[19:51] <dattas> so i like to watch tv when i am at home cuz we don't got cable at home
[19:51] <Daviey> ah
[19:51] <dattas> dorm = free cable lol
[19:53] <dattas> does the trunk made the libmyth-dev?
[19:53] <dattas> make*
[19:57] <dattas> does the weekly trunk build make the libmyth-dev? so can i build mythstream?
[20:12] <haffi> Hi, where do I set the "Master server settings" in my mythtv frontend?
[22:40] <MythbuntuGuest91> Hello all, I'm having trouble playing avi files through my video lists, I have tried using both Mplayer and Xine, my video card is x1250 onboard. Are there pluggins I need to download?
[22:41] <superm1_> MythbuntuGuest91, what happens when you try to play them?
[22:41] <superm1_> and you tried them from a command line ?
[22:41] <superm1_> or juts in mythvideo?
[22:41] <MythbuntuGuest91> Ive tried them through Ubuntu gui and mythtv, they open and close imediately
[22:42] <superm1_> can you try on the command line?
[22:42] <superm1_> it will tell you waht it happening
[22:42] <superm1_> why they won't play
[22:42] <MythbuntuGuest91> sure, how might i do that
[22:42] <MythbuntuGuest91> Mplayer filename.avi?
[22:44] <MythbuntuGuest91> says "it seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card availible."
[22:45] <MythbuntuGuest91> running "xvinfo" says "no adapter present" OK seems like a driver issue I suppose
[22:46] <superm1_> do you have a proprietary driver installed?
[22:46] <superm1_> or not
[22:47] <MythbuntuGuest91> Yes I did allow its installation
[22:47] <superm1_> what kind of driver?
[22:47] <MythbuntuGuest91> It was asking about allowing it after install of Ubuntu,
[22:47] <superm1_> well i mean which card
[22:48] <superm1_> we can double check that it really is activated
[22:48] <MythbuntuGuest91> "ATI accelerated graphics driver" is in restricted drivers
[22:48] <superm1_> and something didn't go wrong
[22:48] <superm1_> okay
[22:48] <MythbuntuGuest91> the card i have is ati x1250
[22:48] <superm1_> okay can you open up mcc
[22:48] <MythbuntuGuest91> built into asus MB
[22:48] <superm1_> and then click on proprietary drivers
[22:48] <superm1_> and choose the amd control center button?
[22:48] <superm1_> and see if that has any information about the driver not working properly
[22:48] <superm1_> etc
[22:49] <MythbuntuGuest91> it does nothing when I try to load the Catalyst Control Center form Mythbuntu Control centre
[22:49] <superm1_> okay so something is going wrong there.
[22:49] <MythbuntuGuest91> There is a driver availible from AMD/ATI
[22:49] <MythbuntuGuest91> should i try to install it?
[22:50] <superm1_> yes
[22:50] <superm1_> well
[22:50] <superm1_> wait
[22:50] <superm1_> how about you check out a few low level things first
[22:50] <superm1_> can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:50] <superm1_> and your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:50] <superm1_> !pastebin | MythbuntuGuest91
[22:50] <ubotu> MythbuntuGuest91: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[22:50] <superm1_> hopefully its just a small configuration error
[22:54] <MythbuntuGuest91> how do I copy all when using nano?
[22:54] <superm1_> MythbuntuGuest91, well i'd recommend you install a more featured editor
[22:54] <superm1_> like geany,gedit,mousepad
[22:54] <superm1_> leafpad maybe
[22:55] <superm1_> (they're gui editors)
[22:58] <MythbuntuGuest91> ok i have it pasted, log address is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43470/
[22:59] <superm1_> okay that looks sane
[22:59] <superm1_> can you post the xorg.conf too?
[23:02] <MythbuntuGuest48> there isn't a mythstream type thing that will run on the mythbackend is there?
[23:02] <MythbuntuGuest91> ok i have it pasted, log address is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43471/
[23:03] <superm1_> dattas, someone was investigating it yesterday
[23:03] <superm1_> but hasn't got it all properly setup
[23:03] <superm1_> mythstreamtv is what its called
[23:03] <dattas> oh? any website?
[23:03] <superm1_> MythbuntuGuest91, okay so you don't have Xv setup for your card
[23:03] <superm1_> did you say you installed this "in the installer" or after the reboot?
[23:04] <MythbuntuGuest91> neither
[23:05] <superm1_> MythbuntuGuest91, how did you install the proprietary driver then
[23:05] <MythbuntuGuest91> its just the defaults that came with Ubuntu
[23:05] <superm1_> fglrx doesn't come with ubuntu?
[23:05] <superm1_> you activated it with restricted drivers manager?
[23:05] <MythbuntuGuest91> probably since im not sure what that is
[23:05] <dattas> superml_ , so it will download podcasts without the frontend?
[23:06] <superm1_> MythbuntuGuest91, okay
[23:06] <superm1_> MythbuntuGuest91, well here is how to solve it
[23:06] <superm1_> from a command line, type this:
[23:06] <superm1_> sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[23:06] <superm1_> and then reboot
[23:08] <MythbuntuGuest91> got it done
[23:11] <MythbuntuGuest91> superml, when trying to run an avi file, i get the same error, "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device
[23:11] <superm1_> MythbuntuGuest91, and you rebooted?
[23:11] <superm1_> MythbuntuGuest91, hm
[23:11] <superm1_> MythbuntuGuest91, did that command give you any errors
[23:11] <superm1_> when you ran it to turn on that overlay
[23:12] <superm1_> MythbuntuGuest91, if its stlil doing that, one more to try:
[23:12] <superm1_> sudo aticonfig --initial sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[23:12] <superm1_> that should overwrite your xorg.conf with an Xv enabled one rather than just enable the one line
[23:14] <MythbuntuGuest91> superml, says "found fglrx primary device section, nothing to do, terminating"
[23:15] <superm1_> MythbuntuGuest91, well you can manually add the section that is missing then
[23:15] <jargonjustin> I'm migrating a system previously used as a Samba server (Debian Etch) over the a Samba/Media server running Mythbuntu.  The current setup uses LVM for it's main storage (non root) partition, which the installers partitioner doesn't seem to support.  Should I just tell the installer to ignore these partitions, and setup LVM post install?
[23:15] <superm1_> MythbuntuGuest91, if you edit that xorg.conf, you can add these two lines to the section that includes Driver "fglrx"
[23:16] <superm1_>         Option      "VideoOverlay" "on"
[23:16] <superm1_>         Option      "OpenGLOverlay" "off"
[23:16] <superm1_> jargonjustin, yeah
[23:16] <jargonjustin> Alright, /var/lib should also be setup on LVM probably, right?
[23:17] <superm1_> jargonjustin, well just don't setup a mount right now for it i'd say
[23:17] <superm1_> because if you mount it at /var, the installer has a tendency to want to format it
[23:18] <jargonjustin> superm1_, ah, of course.  Thanks
[23:19] <jargonjustin> The only thing MythTV should be hitting the disk for is recording, which it looks like I can map to somewhere outside of /var, right?
[23:19] <superm1_> well yeah you can
[23:19] <superm1_> if you do i'd recommend making /var/lib/mythtv/recordings a symlink to wherever you put it
[23:20] <superm1_> so that you dont have to change a few other areas that would depend upon it
[23:20] <jargonjustin> superm1_: Sounds like a better solution, thanks
[23:21] <jargonjustin> Is the LIRC setup testable off the LiveCD?
[23:21] <superm1_> jargonjustin, yeah it is in live frontend mode
[23:21] <superm1_> assuming you have a backend installed somewhere else
[23:21] <superm1_> i've only tested it with a few remotes though, so hopefully it works for others :)
[23:22] <jargonjustin> Okay, lastly, Mythbuntu can use the regular Ubuntu package repositories, right?
[23:23] <dattas> yes
[23:23] <superm1_> matter of fact it does :)
[23:23] <superm1_> all but one of our packages are in the repositories
[23:23] <MythbuntuGuest91> superml, looks like I need to buy a Nvidia card...
[23:24] <superm1_> MythbuntuGuest91, not really.
[23:24] <superm1_> MythbuntuGuest91, once this option is in place
[23:24] <superm1_> it should work out as expected
[23:24] <superm1_> i've got ati in 3 of my machines
[23:24] <MythbuntuGuest91> I have that file edited and still same symptoms
[23:25] <dattas> is there anyway to make mythVideo auto scan the video collection?
[23:25] <superm1_> MythbuntuGuest91, you rebooted right?
[23:25] <MythbuntuGuest91> yuppers
[23:25] <superm1_> dattas, there is a way to let it not have to scan
[23:25] <superm1_> but not autoscan
[23:25] <dattas> well, what about scan when i go into the videos?
[23:26] <dattas> how?
[23:26] <solarbaby> I can't wait for the day that MythVideos can be replaced with XBMC
[23:26] <dattas> lol xbox
[23:26] <superm1_> dattas, do into mythvideo settings
[23:26] <solarbaby> unfortunately I dont know if thats ever going to happen
[23:26] <superm1_> and there is an option for that
[23:27] <superm1_> for browse mode
[23:28] <dattas> is it the "video gallery browses file" ?
[23:28] <superm1_> yeah something like that
[23:28] <superm1_> sounds right
[23:29] <dattas> ah rockin'
[23:29] <dattas> it works as a makeshift podcast watcher :D
[23:29] <dattas> just have miro download it
[23:30] <dattas> and put it in the videos directory
[23:31] <MythbuntuGuest91> superml, I will double check the xorg.conf
[23:32] <superm1_> MythbuntuGuest91, yeah pastebin it if your not sure
[23:34] <MythbuntuGuest91> ok i have it pasted, log address is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43475/
[23:34] <MythbuntuGuest91> seems to be in there twice..lol
[23:35] <superm1_> yeah that's correct
[23:36] <superm1_> it should be activating the Xv overlay now
[23:36] <superm1_> ( as long as you've rebooted )
[23:36] <Daviey> superm1_: any ideas on an fglrx i can use with kernel 2.6.23+
[23:37]  * superm1_ checks something
[23:37] <Daviey> ta
[23:38] <superm1_> not officially
[23:38] <superm1_> as of yet
[23:38] <Daviey> :(
[23:38] <MythbuntuGuest91> superml, yeah still same problems
[23:39] <superm1_> MythbuntuGuest91, hm
[23:39] <superm1_> MythbuntuGuest91, well that is "the way" to turn on video overlay
[23:39] <superm1_> we can check the Xorg.0.log now
[23:39] <superm1_> to see if it has changed
[23:39] <superm1_> and has an error hwen trying to turn on the overlay
[23:41] <MythbuntuGuest91> ok i have it pasted, log address is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43477/
[23:43] <superm1_> MythbuntuGuest91, according to that your VideoOverlay turned on properly
[23:43] <superm1_> does xvinfo do any justice now?
[23:43] <MythbuntuGuest91> Xvideo Extension version 2.2 screen #0 no adapter present
[23:44] <superm1_> well then at this point, i'd recommend trying the drivers from AMD directly (the newer ones)
[23:44] <superm1_> and see if that helps
[23:44] <superm1_> this is all particularly odd.
[23:44] <MythbuntuGuest91> im not sure how to run it...has a .run extension
[23:45] <superm1_> MythbuntuGuest91, go the aticchtml wiki
[23:45] <superm1_> it has directions on how to install and build it from that driver.
[23:45] <superm1_> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[23:46] <superm1_> i'm gonna be afk for a bit but have a ghost here so ping the ghost superm1 if you still run into troubles
[23:53] <haffi> Hi, I've got some sound problems with mythtv. I have a backend server w/ a PCTV Pro video card but when I connect with a frontend I can't hear any sound


[06:46] <pitti> alesage: yes, I think dbus-mocking NM/upower (i. e. the system D-BUS services) is the right layer for indicator testing
[07:25] <pitti> alesage: wrt. bug 1087887 -- you know that dbusmock has shipped templates for NM, upower, bluez 4, bluez 5, ofono, logind, polkitd, notification-daemon, and some more?
[07:25] <pitti> alesage: if we need another one, I'm happy to look into it, but these should cover the most important system services
[16:08] <alesage> pitti thanks for that, wasn't aware there we so many templates (only aware of upower)--pitti are you aware of a way to fake the RTC?  I see that there's a timedated in systemd D-Bus
[16:10] <pitti> alesage: we have a template for timedated indeed, but that's for setting the timezone and setting the local RTC (faking it)
[16:11] <pitti> alesage: if you actually want to fake a different time, use the faketime package/tool
[16:12] <alesage> pitti, so libfaketime, ok thx we've looked into that a little
[16:20] <alesage> pitti actually reviewing your two lines above, what's the difference between setting the local RTC (faking it) and using the faketime tool?
[16:22] <pitti> alesage: the dbusmock doesn't actually change the RTC (of course; it can't), it just provides the timedated D-BUS call
[16:23] <pitti> alesage: not sure, but faketime mostly just fakes the system clock; someting which actually queries the hardware RTC can't be faked I'm afraid
[16:23] <pitti> well, it could of course, but not sure if libfaketime does that too
[20:11] <Letozaf_> balloons, hello
[20:11] <balloons> Letozaf_, howdy
[20:12] <Letozaf_> balloons, I was checking the next bug to fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+bug/1385364
[20:12] <Letozaf_> balloons, I think this problem does not occur anymore as there is palces page now
[20:12] <Letozaf_> balloons, well at least on the phone
[20:13] <balloons> Letozaf_, yep should be all fixed now due to the changes
[20:13] <Letozaf_> balloons, o
[20:13] <Letozaf_> balloons, sorry ... pressed enter
[20:13] <Letozaf_> balloons, so is that bug to be marked invalid or what ?
[20:16] <balloons> Letozaf_, ohh I thought it was this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+bug/1379943
[20:16] <balloons> Letozaf_, I would ask arto about that one
[20:17] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok I will
[20:24] <elopio> thomi: https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ueqa-code-proposals/indicator-messages-open_message/+merge/242284
[20:24] <Letozaf_> balloons, what about this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+bug/1393973   can I do something, I mean do you mean each test has to be launched once without any switch, once with -p and once with -t  ?
[20:32] <balloons> Letozaf_, I would create 2 seperate launchers. One that uses -p, the other than uses -t
[20:33] <balloons> it's possible jenkins will still hate us, let me see
[20:38] <balloons> Letozaf_, I'm guessing since we have the screen resolution set it might not work out actually on jenkins
[20:39] <Letozaf_> balloons, oh, now I understand
[20:41] <balloons> Letozaf_, I will update the bug and let's leave it for now
[20:41] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok
[20:42] <Letozaf_> balloons, so if I am not mistaken filemanager app has no autopilot bugs to fix now
[20:42] <Letozaf_> balloons, I will move on to telegram then
[20:43] <balloons> Letozaf_, there's actually https://code.launchpad.net/~nikwen/ubuntu-filemanager-app/zips/+merge/239662 and https://code.launchpad.net/~nikwen/ubuntu-filemanager-app/tars/+merge/240986
[20:43]  * Letozaf_ is looking
[20:45] <balloons> Letozaf_, it's a new feature and would be good to get some tests for it :-)
[20:46] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok, but do I have to wait for it to be merged, or do I just pull these branches and try to work on those ?
[20:47] <balloons> Letozaf_, you could ask Niklas to make it a common branch so you can edit along with him
[20:47] <balloons> I think that makes it better. Or simply create a new branch
[20:47] <balloons> you can then propose to merge it into his branch
[20:48] <balloons> i'd like to see everything go in at the same time
[20:49] <Letozaf_> balloons, maybe it's better I create a new branch and propose to merge into his
[20:51] <balloons> Letozaf_, sure you might be correct
[20:51] <balloons> anyways, it should be interesting to get right
[20:52] <Letozaf_> balloons, yes I am reading to see how it works so I can think of a test
[20:52] <balloons> Letozaf_, I would say you could create zips and just add them as resources to the tests instead of making them on the fly
[20:53] <Letozaf_> balloons, yes I suppose that's because you just want to see if they get opened and not created, right ?
[21:06] <Letozaf_> balloons, so I can put some zips in a directory named "content" as music-app does
[21:07] <balloons> Letozaf_, yep
[21:07] <balloons> Letozaf_, and yes.. file manager is just adding extraction capabilities, so that's all we want to test
[21:07] <balloons> and we want to make sure they are good files. better to have known good stuff
[21:08] <Letozaf_> balloons, what should I zip as resource ?
[21:09] <Letozaf_> balloons, I mean anything or something particular
[21:11] <balloons> Letozaf_, lol, I would just create a tiny one locally
[21:11] <balloons> zip a text file and a little picture maybe
[21:12] <Letozaf_> balloons, you want two zip files or one containing the text and picture ?
[21:14] <balloons> Letozaf_, keep it simple for now.. but sure we could go a little nuts I suppose
[21:19] <dkessel> Letozaf_: you could add one file to the root folder, and one file in a subfolder
[21:19] <dkessel> to check if subfolders are extracted
[21:20] <Letozaf_> dkessel, yes sounds good if balloons approves :)
[21:20] <dkessel> buona sera btw ;)
[21:20] <Letozaf_> dkessel, buona sera :)
[21:23] <balloons> dkessel, good idea
[21:23] <balloons> so yea, more than 1 file, more than 1 type of file, more than 1 folder
[21:23] <balloons> create a file or two in subfolders as well
[21:24] <Letozaf_> balloons, dkessel ok so let's do it :-P
[21:24] <dkessel> mama mia
[21:24] <Letozaf_> dkessel, lol I'm the one who should say mamma mia ! :-P I am writing the test :-P
[21:24] <dkessel> i can create a zip file... sure :)
[21:25] <Letozaf_> dkessel, with "let's do it" I meant only me :-P
[21:25] <Letozaf_> dkessel, I should have wrote "let me do it" :D
[21:26] <dkessel> probably. if you do not have multiple personalities
[21:26]  * balloons watches
[21:27]  * Letozaf_ should think before writing :-P
[21:32]  * dkessel continues the /me round
[21:32] <Letozaf_> :)
[21:34]  * dkessel tries "update-manager -d" today
[21:35] <dkessel> hah. it still says upgrading "Kubuntu" on Xubuntu
[21:36] <knome> :||
[21:37] <balloons> dkessel, did you ever install kubuntu?
[21:38]  * balloons wonders what that is keying off of
[21:38] <dkessel> balloons: never
[21:39] <dkessel> it would be funny if it just checked for some qt package...
[21:40] <dkessel> yay, it did not crash today
[21:43] <Letozaf_> balloons, https://code.launchpad.net/~nikwen/ubuntu-filemanager-app/zips/+merge/239662  has not got the latest tests, what should I do not to mess things up ?
[21:43] <balloons> Letozaf_, ohh.. well, he should merge trunk. You can do the same
[21:43] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok
[21:53] <Letozaf_> balloons, I understand reading that unzip landed in rtm image and not in devel-proposed, it I launch filemanager in vivid I suppose it's like I am on devel-proposed, right ?
[21:53] <Letozaf_> it -> if
[21:53] <Letozaf_> balloons, so to see the changes work I have to launch it on my device with rtm flashed
[21:55] <dkessel> oh noes.
[21:56]  * dkessel wishes he had not tried to upgrade his real machine today
[21:56]  * dkessel watches package upgrade failures rain
[21:56] <balloons> dkessel, :-( utopic to vivid?
[21:57] <dkessel> balloons: yup
[21:58] <dkessel> "triggers form a loop" (or something like that in english).... heh. gonna report that one
[22:00] <Letozaf_> oops getting late, good night everyone, going to bed :) see you tomorrow
[22:11] <dkessel> elfy will be proud - so many bugs in one test run
[22:47] <dkessel> night


[02:50] <RAOF> You know, i915, I'd really prefer it if you *didn't* periodically blank my screen for a single frame.
[05:21] <tjaalton> skylake?
[05:52] <RAOF> Indeed.
[05:52] <RAOF> Oh, actually, no.
[05:53] <RAOF> tjaalton: Actually, haswell.
[05:54] <tjaalton> ah
[19:38] <soee> mamarley: do you have some machine with intel + nvidia ?
[19:38] <mamarley> soee: Try 3 of them. :)
[19:39] <soee> mamarley: are they on 16.04 ?
[19:39] <mamarley> Nope, Yakkety for all of them.
[19:39] <soee> and with latest updates you can switch profiles ?
[19:40] <mamarley> Oh, you mean Optimus systems?  None of mine are Optimus, sorry.  I thought you meant Intel CPU and NVIDIA GPU.
[19:40] <soee> ah, ok


[11:16] <mlankhorst> wee and mplayer -vo nouveau vdpau bug found :)
[11:16] <mlankhorst> erm swap nouveau and vdpau there
[15:20] <bjsnider> mlankhorst, that shouldn't work, unless there's a gallium state tracker for vdpau
[15:20] <bjsnider> nouveau users should use gl or gl3
[15:23] <mlankhorst> $ glxinfo | grep -i nouv
[15:23] <mlankhorst> OpenGL vendor string: nouveau
[15:30] <mlankhorst> mesa.git even has hw decoding support on some cards
[15:57] <bjsnider> so, doing a rotation with xrandr on ivb/sna takes down the xserver
[15:57] <bjsnider> without sna, all is fine
[15:58] <bjsnider> that was the only serious sna problem i encountered
[17:38] <tjaalton> bjsnider: oh, filed a bug yet? assign it to me
[17:39] <ricotz> tjaalton, hi :)
[17:39] <ricotz> could you take a look at libwacom 0.7 and update?
[17:40] <tjaalton> ricotz: tomorrow, sure
[17:40] <ricotz> should be straight forward -- https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3-staging/+sourcepub/2851075/+listing-archive-extra
[17:40] <ricotz> tjaalton, thanks!
[17:40] <tjaalton> when was it released?
[17:40] <ricotz> mid december i think
[17:41] <ricotz> libwacom-0.7.tar.bz2 	2012-12-20 	403.5 kB 	30 	210 downloads
[17:41] <tjaalton> huh
[17:41] <ricotz> http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxwacom/files/libwacom/libwacom-0.7.tar.bz2/download
[17:42] <ricotz> xf86-input-wacom-0.19.0.tar.bz2 	2013-01-03 	528.6 kB 	103 	196 downloads
[17:42] <ricotz> ;)
[17:42] <tjaalton> not announced on any of the lists i'm on
[17:43] <ricotz> don't worry, i hope you like to push them
[17:47] <tjaalton> yep, sure
[17:51] <ricotz> thanks you
[18:46] <bdmurray> tjaalton: I've installed the new synaptics and I'm still having issue with my trackpad
[18:46] <bjsnider> tjaalton, i was thinking about it but i thought i might wait until raring to see if it's fixed there. this is in quantal
[19:07] <tjaalton> bdmurray: that's weird, same backtrace on the log?
[19:08] <tjaalton> bjsnider: ah, good plan
[19:08] <bdmurray> tjaalton: not exactly
[19:08] <bdmurray> [    63.776] (--) synaptics: Apple Wireless Trackpad: touchpad found
[19:08] <bdmurray> (EE) Apple Wireless Trackpad: Read error 19
[19:08] <bdmurray> [    93.284] (II) config/udev: removing device Apple Wireless Trackpad
[19:08] <bdmurray> [    93.307] (II) UnloadModule: "synaptics"
[19:13] <tjaalton> bdmurray: that's a kernel bug then
[19:13] <tjaalton> the crasher is fixed
[19:13] <bryce> tjaalton, ah thanks for taking a look at it
[19:14] <tjaalton> before it crashed trying to log the error :)
[19:14] <tjaalton> try the kernel from quantal, should work with it
[19:15] <bryce> did the kernel log anything?  dmesg?
[19:16] <bdmurray> Jan 17 10:41:58 impulse kernel: [   63.698471] power_supply hid-c8:bc:c8:f9:78:3d-battery: driver failed to report `capacity' property: -5
[19:16] <bdmurray> perhaps that?
[19:16] <bryce> hmm, unlikely
[19:17] <bryce> tjaalton, any debugging options for synaptics or kernel input he could flip on?
[19:18] <bryce> tjaalton, what was the fix for the X crash?  a particular patch, or a new version?
[19:26] <tjaalton> bryce: a patch for synaptics to use signal safe logging
[19:26] <tjaalton> not aware  about any debugging options..
[19:27] <tjaalton> whot released a new rc for synaptics, many moons late :)
[19:27] <tjaalton> should've been out with xserver 1.13
[19:30] <mlankhorst> heya
[19:30] <mlankhorst> bryce: I've been fixing some vdpau crash bugs in mesa, I think it should be safe to turn on vdpau now
[19:30] <mlankhorst> at least on master branch
[19:38] <bryce> mlankhorst, ok
[19:43] <mlankhorst> might actually be somewhat useful on fermi/kepler
[19:45] <mlankhorst> surprised internet's finest news source didn't pick up on it yet
[19:47] <tjaalton> so, sna or no sna? I'd say yes
[19:47] <tjaalton> could do the switch tomorrow
[19:47] <mlankhorst> didn't look like it broke that much
[19:50] <tjaalton> right
[19:50] <mlankhorst> I think there's no harm in enabling it as a default now, but have to watch out for all the bugs :)
[19:51] <tjaalton> ickle is monitoring them as well
[19:51] <tjaalton> occasionally anyway :)
[19:59] <mlankhorst> I've pushed my old mesa patches upstream now that mplayer vdpau output no longer crashes
[20:02] <tjaalton> next week might be a good time to push new mesa out for testing, in a ppa first
[20:03] <mlankhorst> sure
[20:03] <mlankhorst> updated http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/NVC0_Firmware
[20:03] <mlankhorst> if you're feeling daring you could try to make it work
[20:06] <tjaalton> ooh
[20:07] <tjaalton> can't remember what my t420s has, but accelration at least is disabled on it by default
[20:07] <mlankhorst> if you're really really lucky, try git master :P
[20:07] <mlankhorst> of git
[20:07] <mlankhorst> erm linux*
[20:07] <tjaalton> enabling it results in a hang pretty quickly
[20:07] <tjaalton> ah
[20:07] <mlankhorst> there has been a hang recently, but nvd9 is still broken for most
[20:07] <mlankhorst> hang fix*
[20:07] <mlankhorst> gah.. tired :(
[20:23] <bryce> tjaalton, yeah the two sna bugs reported were cosmetic.  Make sure upstream knows about those, and go ahead and flip on sna
[20:25] <tjaalton> bryce: righty-o
[21:51] <tjaalton> bryce: seen these before? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/128742080/HookError_source_xorg.txt
[21:52] <bryce> tjaalton, I noticed them the other day.  Guessing the HookError* stuff is new?
[21:52] <tjaalton> yeah
[21:53] <bryce> tjaalton, the flaw in question is bad handling of Xorg.0.log when utf characters are in there.  I've actually got that fixed in my xdiagnose branch.  I've just got a couple more tasks (one of which is thorough testing...) before I can upload it.
[21:53] <bryce> tjaalton, I found that sometimes invalid utf-8 chars can slip in via the parsed edid in the Xorg.0.log, and that breaks python...
[21:54] <tjaalton> ah :)
[21:55] <tjaalton> yeah it's not on every bugreport, but some
[21:55] <bryce> tjaalton, I've set xdiagnose up with test cases and sample Xorg.0.log's.  So if we see HookErrors like this in the future, I can just add the given log to the test suite...
[21:55] <tjaalton> nice
[21:55] <bryce> also added a catch-all that if the parser fails, the bug reports still get filed, just without the details parsed from the log.
[21:56] <bryce> tjaalton, so, maybe you can help with the other task...
[21:56] <bryce> I am adding an xedid script which does stuff with edid's
[21:57] <bryce> e.g. it can parse binary edid files into human readable listings, and convert hex edid from Xorg.0.log to binary ones, and so on and so forth
[21:57] <bryce> when it extracts the edid from an Xorg.0.log, it can save it to a file, and I'm debating what to name that file by default
[21:57] <bryce> 01.edid seems uncreative
[21:58] <bryce> I've seen others use 1024x768.edid and similar, so might try that
[21:58] <bryce> why this is important is because xedid also permits installing edids into the kernel firmware
[21:58] <bryce> so we may start seeing these files floating around.  would be nice to ensure they have decent filenames by default...
[21:58] <tjaalton> what's it for, debugging?
[21:59] <bryce> no, for cases where something has broken the edid, e.g. kvms or adapters or whatnot.  Or replacing the edid if the monitor came with a bad edid
[22:00] <bryce> it will probably also be useful for debugging but that's secondary
[22:05] <bryce> hmm, maybe I'll just go with coded manufacturer-productid-serialno for now
[22:06] <tjaalton> yeah, no strong opinion about those :)
[22:07] <bryce> alright, now to the testing....


[04:28] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[04:28] <Kilos> looks like quassel server survived
[04:50] <magespawn> morning Kilos
[04:50] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[04:51] <magespawn> bbl showertime
[05:16] <superfly> morning Kilos
[05:16] <superfly> you're up far too early
[05:17] <superfly> hi magespawn
[05:18] <Kilos> had to check if your quassel was still alive superfly
[05:19] <Kilos> hehe
[05:21] <superfly> Kilos: it went down *once* and now you're worried?
[05:22] <Kilos> lol yeah well you looked for stats again after i went to bed
[05:22] <Kilos> so just checking
[05:27] <Kilos> donker werk is konkel werk
[05:41] <Kilos> hi aquarat
[05:43] <magespawn> hey superfly
[05:48] <Kilos> hehe i upset him this morning
[05:50] <Kilos> sorry superfly was teasing actually
[05:51] <Kilos> oh he gone
[05:56] <Kilos> hi psydroid
[05:56] <Kilos> and Squirm
[05:56] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[05:57] <psydroid> hi magespawn
[05:57] <psydroid> hi superfly
[05:57] <psydroid> hi aquarat
[06:16] <mazal> Morning everyone
[06:16] <Kilos> hi mazal
[06:43] <magespawn> hey psydroid
[06:43] <magespawn> o/ mazal
[06:45]  * magespawn goes to kills some pixels in open arena
[06:46] <Kilos> hehe
[07:00]  * mazal was beddegoed :P
[07:13]  * magespawn thinks hes is having more fun than mazal
[07:14] <mazal> You defnitely are !! :)
[07:16] <mazal> magespawn, is open arena for online only ? Or does it have single player offline as well ?
[07:37] <Kilos> hi Ludo
[07:38] <Kilos> its a fat download
[07:38] <Kilos> 385 meg or something
[07:38] <Kilos> magespawn, tell man
[07:38] <Kilos> is it a lekker game
[07:41] <magespawn> Kilos if you enjoy fps games yes
[07:41] <Kilos> whats fps
[07:41] <magespawn> first person shooter
[07:41] <Kilos> oh like arcade games
[07:42] <Kilos> you shoot the aliens
[07:45] <magespawn> yes a little but from the first person point of view
[07:47] <magespawn> this you can play online versus other ppl but does use data
[07:57] <Kilos> and offline too?
[07:57] <Kilos> i dont wanna shoot peeps
[07:58] <Kilos> 4 lb hammer is more satisfying
[07:58] <Kilos> and arm gets excersie too
[07:58] <Kilos> sjoe
[07:58] <Kilos> exercise
[08:09] <magespawn> yes you can play off line
[08:11] <mazal> *sigh* Have to go work
[08:11] <mazal> Later all
[08:14] <Kilos> ty magespawn will check night surfer data and maybe get it
[08:42] <magespawn> Kilos it is a lot of fun if you enjoy blowing things up
[08:43] <Kilos> hehehe
[09:24] <Kilos> hi Vince-0
[09:24] <Vince-0> Hi Kilos
[09:25] <Vince-0> Wat gaan aan
[09:25] <Kilos> magespawn, have you played red alert
[09:25] <Kilos> still en rustig Vince-0
[09:25] <magespawn> no not yet
[09:25] <magespawn> i have heard about it though
[09:25] <Vince-0> yoh I got the original soviet and allied discs from their site
[09:25] <Vince-0> 640x480 for the win
[09:26] <Kilos> the first one was great hadda chick called Tanya in that loved blowing things up
[09:26] <Vince-0> lol ya, we used to use a serial cable between two pcs for that
[09:26] <Kilos> lol
[09:27] <Vince-0> and t-piece and coax after that
[09:32] <Kilos> hehe
[09:57] <magespawn> now you guys are really showing your age
[09:58] <Kilos> hehe is a great game
[09:58] <Kilos> only prob is getting the cds
[09:58] <magespawn> no the serial cable and the coax
[09:59] <Kilos> AOE4 works internetwise
[09:59] <Kilos> oh
[10:01] <magespawn> did a clear ou at the fish's school found a whole load of coax with the connectors on
[10:02] <Kilos> lol
[10:03] <Kilos> coax still works on idiot boxes
[10:03] <Vince-0> starcraft brood wars too
[10:04] <magespawn> still have my discs for that
[10:06] <magespawn> until recently i had the original warcraft
[10:10] <Vince-0> aw, quality
[10:10] <Vince-0> the oldest game I still have in a box is carmageddon
[10:12] <magespawn> i remember that. now that is stress relief
[10:14] <Vince-0> stainless is making a new one for release early next year
[10:14] <Vince-0> it started as a Kickstarter project - they gave me the originals for sponsering
[10:14] <Vince-0> also making an Android and iOS version
[10:46] <charl_> good morning
[10:49] <Vince-0> haai
[10:53] <magespawn> cool Vince-0
[10:54] <magespawn> i am off home cheers all
[10:54] <Kilos> toods magespawn
[11:02] <charl_> ciao magespawn
[11:02] <charl_> hi Vince-0
[11:04] <Vince-0> checkin out Google Communities on G+
[11:05] <Kilos> hi charl_
[11:22] <Kilos> hi Zarw
[11:22] <Kilos> wb
[13:03] <Symmetria> hrm
[13:03] <Symmetria> I had an epiphany :P doing my db processing for my app on the frontend to generate the stats was the height of stupidity
[13:04] <Symmetria> rather write another backend application that does the stats generation on a crontab
[13:08] <charl_> sounds like a good idea
[13:08] <charl_> generating stats can take time and make your application look slow
[13:08] <charl_> hi Kilos
[13:09] <charl_> Symmetria: you can even pre-generate the html and save it as a static file, ultimate speed ;)
[13:11] <Symmetria> heh charl it was more a case of, there is simply 2 much data
[13:11] <Symmetria> and the processing of it to generate the stats
[13:11] <Symmetria> was far 2 complex for php and web code to do efficiently
[13:17] <Kerbero> i have that same issue with my one website
[13:17] <Kerbero> but i need live data
[13:17] <Kerbero> currently i am just using very optimized queries
[13:41] <Symmetria> wtf, dont you hate it when you code something and get wierd compilation errors and you sit there staring at it going "wtf?!"
[13:41] <Symmetria> generate_stats.c:(.text+0xe): undefined reference to `PQconnectdb'
[13:41] <Symmetria> generate_stats.c:(.text+0x1e): undefined reference to `PQstatus'
[13:41] <Symmetria> fucking bullshit, the libs are included
[13:43] <Symmetria> heh
[13:43] <Symmetria> oh
[13:43] <Symmetria> gcc wants -l arguments as last arguments
[15:01] <inetpro> ok where are the 8ta fundies?
[15:01] <Kilos> hmm
[15:01] <Kilos> wassup
[15:01]  * inetpro got 8ta sim converted to data
[15:01] <inetpro> now I should effectively be able to use the specials
[15:01] <Kilos> yip
[15:01] <Kilos> *180#
[15:02] <inetpro> so I loaded the 2+1 GB bundle
[15:02] <Kilos> i hope
[15:02] <inetpro> through the web interface
[15:02] <Kilos> oh good
[15:02] <inetpro> but I still had like 445MB left on me prepaid
[15:02] <Kilos> it will use that first
[15:02] <inetpro> and when I test now I can clearly see it still using that
[15:02] <Kilos> lol
[15:03] <inetpro> Kilos: ok, that is good to know
[15:03] <Kilos> yeah they quite efficient inetpro
[15:03] <inetpro> so when that is finished it should start using the 2+1?
[15:03] <Kilos> correct
[15:04] <inetpro> very nice!
[15:04]  * inetpro be back now
[15:04] <Kilos> just the night surfer is late
[15:04] <Kilos> middle of sleep time
[15:05] <Kilos> hows it compare speed wise with vc
[15:55] <nlsthzn> o/
[15:56] <Kilos> hiya nlsthzn
[15:59] <nlsthzn> how are you uncle Kilos ?
[15:59] <Kilos> good ty nlsthzn and you?
[16:00] <nlsthzn> always good uncle Kilos , thanks :)
[16:01] <Kilos> you the other os expert hey nlsthzn ?
[16:01] <Kilos> hehe
[16:01] <Kilos> are you onna pc now?
[16:02] <nlsthzn> yup
[16:02] <nlsthzn> I am on a PC but no expert
[16:02] <nlsthzn> :p
[16:02] <Kilos> can you join ##kilos please
[16:03] <nlsthzn> sounds scary
[16:03] <Kilos> they fight with me when i talk the other os here
[16:03] <Kilos> hehe
[16:03] <nlsthzn> silly sausages
[16:06] <Kilos> lol
[16:12] <nlsthzn> guys, friend of mine in SA said a guy in his building said he should join http://www.ptawug.co.za/ ... any thoughts comments on this... are there many such "groups" in ZA now?
[16:14] <Kilos> ptawub is the biggest wug in za methinks
[16:14] <Kilos> got ubuntu users there too
[16:15] <Kilos> you dont get internet but some of them get packages and then you get it from them
[16:16] <inetpro> if they find out that you're using the internet through the wug you are in trouble
[16:16] <inetpro> they are not very friendly peeps when it comes to that
[16:17] <inetpro> but the restriction is actually the law
[16:17] <nlsthzn> what is it?  I don't know wug's?
[16:17] <inetpro> so they are just trying to stick to the letter of the law
[16:17] <inetpro> nlsthzn: wireless user group
[16:18] <nlsthzn> :) ok, but what does that mean
[16:18] <inetpro> it's a big wireless network across a very wide area
[16:18] <Kilos> you can join them inetpro they are very friendly
[16:18] <nlsthzn> ah ok... like a WAN
[16:18] <nlsthzn> share some files and resources etc?
[16:18] <Kilos> i tried once before remember
[16:19] <Kilos> lol they even offered to sell me the necessary antenna
[16:19]  * inetpro wanted to join but the high sites where to far away from me home
[16:20] <Kilos> i think they are the biggest wug in the southern hemisphere
[16:20] <Kilos> they are on irc as well nlsthzn
[16:30] <nlsthzn> ah ok thanks uncle Kilos
[16:30] <Kilos> np
[16:30] <Kilos> hope you win
[16:31] <Kilos> i battled to find them then xchat went to them and dropped freenode
[16:31] <Kilos> grrr
[16:33] <nlsthzn> nah, seems the guy wants him to sign up to get free movies etc... seems like they are using it for pirating more than anything (well, in the specific building)
[16:34] <Kilos> ai
[16:34] <Kilos> when i told them i just started using ubuntu they offered to get packages for me
[16:35] <nlsthzn> always good and bad apples
[16:37] <Kilos> tell him to get them on irc and chat to the whole group
[16:37] <Kilos> http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/details.php?room=%23ptawug&net=WugNet
[16:38] <Kilos> not sure if that was the right link anymore
[16:39] <nlsthzn> no worries uncle Kilos ... he is very tech shy and trying to get him on IRC is more time than I have :p
[16:39] <Kilos> shame sorry nlsthzn
[16:40] <nlsthzn> nah, that is his problem
[16:41] <Kilos> he on windows hey
[16:41] <Kilos> lol
[16:42] <Kilos> xchat works on windows too
[16:44] <inetpro> superfly: btw, I did my own little queries on me quassel db and noticed one thing
[16:44]  * inetpro talks to much
[16:44] <nlsthzn> lol
[16:44] <Kilos> lolol
[16:44] <inetpro> heh Kilos, there's one nick that talks even more than me
[16:45] <nlsthzn> ^_^
[16:45] <inetpro> and that nick is Kilos :-)
[16:45] <nlsthzn> thank you caption obvious :p
[16:45] <nlsthzn> *captain
[16:46] <charl_> lol
[16:46] <Kilos> hahaha
[16:46]  * inetpro shall have to try to talk less
[16:47] <nlsthzn> nah, when inetpro talks it is worth listening
[16:47] <Kilos> jou beurt is jou beurt
[16:47] <charl_> there is a tool... i think it is called pisg or something
[16:47] <charl_> you can see who are the biggest talkers on irc
[16:47] <charl_> here's one of another channel i am in: http://gavinsharp.com/irc/whatwg.html
[16:48] <inetpro> charl_: that is neat!
[16:49] <Kilos> hi Wraz
[16:49] <charl_> ah here's another one: http://stats.flexnet.org/ipv6/
[16:49] <charl_> apparently i'm not a big talker though... :)
[16:49] <inetpro> charl_: do they have monthly stats?
[16:49] <Kilos> haha
[16:50] <charl_> ah here's the pisg link: http://pisg.sourceforge.net/
[16:50] <charl_> inetpro: i don't really know, i never spent much time on it
[16:50] <charl_> inetpro: but afaik the tool is like 10+ years old
[16:51] <Kilos> good tools never age
[16:51] <charl_> ooh it's written in perl :S
[16:52] <inetpro> the most basic stat that I would see as being useful is the amount of active nicks per month
[16:52] <charl_> useful or embarrasing? :)
[16:52] <Kilos> wow thats about 10 on good days
[16:52] <Kilos> lotsa lurkers though
[16:52] <charl_> but yeah it could be interesting
[16:53] <inetpro> amount of nicks should never be embarrassing
[16:55] <inetpro> but number of lines per nick could be very revealing
[16:55] <charl_> yes indeed
[16:55] <Kilos> haha
[16:55] <Kilos> i win
[16:55] <charl_> just keep your boss from seeing it ;)
[16:55] <charl_> or use a pseudonym
[16:55] <Kilos> my boss says i may chat lots
[16:56] <nlsthzn> :)
[16:56] <charl_> Kilos: i think that would be the exception rather than the rule ;)
[16:56] <Kilos> lol
[16:56] <inetpro> a lot of talking doesn't have to be negative
[16:57] <inetpro> Kilos's boss likes it if he talks a lot
[16:57] <inetpro> the more the better
[16:57] <Kilos> haha
[16:57] <charl_> i find irc is a nice distraction in between tasks... getting your mind out of the one thing before you go into the next
[16:58] <charl_> while i'm busy working on something i disconnect from the screen running irssi
[16:58] <charl_> and then check back in later, so i don't see it as a negative thing either
[16:58] <Kilos> hehe
[16:58]  * inetpro would love to see facebook stats
[16:59] <charl_> have you heard/read about the research done on employees that use facebook?
[16:59] <charl_> on average, they are more productive at work apparently
[16:59] <charl_> of course, you also get people who get completely obsessed and that gives the opposite effect...
[16:59] <superfly> what was that, inetpro?
[17:02] <inetpro> superfly: I put the following query into a file query.sql and then ran: psql -f query.sql --tuples-only quassel | uniq -c | sort -nr | nl
[17:02] <inetpro> select to_char ( time, 'YYYY-MM' ) as month, substring ( sender.sender from '(^.*)!.*' ) as nick from backlog join sender on sender.senderid = backlog.senderid where type=1 and bufferid = 1 and time > '2012-09-01 00:00:00' and time < '2012-12-01 00:00:00' order by month, nick;
[17:03] <inetpro> obviously you will be able to improve a lot on that query
[17:04] <inetpro> oops.... that's the wrong query
[17:04] <inetpro> I played around a little
[17:04] <charl_> wait you got your irc logs in a database?!
[17:04] <inetpro> the following should not be part of it: 'to_char ( time, 'YYYY-MM' ) as month'
[17:05] <inetpro> charl_: yebo yes, with quasselcore
[17:05] <charl_> ah i see, interesting
[17:05] <superfly> inetpro: ah, right, OK. I was trying to do my sorting and grouping in SQL, where you did it using "external" tools
[17:06] <charl_> you can do some more interesting stuff with that if you really want... like get out all the posted links in the last week or do all kinds of analytics
[17:06] <inetpro> superfly: but I was not done with it yet
[17:07] <charl_> if you already have it all in a database it should be simple
[17:07] <inetpro> still needs a bit of time and effort
[17:07] <charl_> actually there should be a tool that could generate some stats straight from the database
[17:09] <inetpro> we should actually try get ibid to build stats
[17:10] <inetpro> what makes it tough is the fact that one user can have so many multiple nicks over time
[17:10] <charl_> yup like me, i just let irssi pick it for me :)
[17:10] <superfly> inetpro: yeah, that was my issue as well
[17:10] <charl_> but i use multiple networks and most of those don't have a nickserv
[17:11] <charl_> funny i was searching for quassel stats generators and found this: https://github.com/rikai/Lavatory
[17:11] <charl_> nice name for a project :)
[17:12] <inetpro> eish!
[17:12]  * inetpro has some more work to do
[17:12] <inetpro> wbbl
[17:12] <charl_> ciao
[18:16] <kodez> greetings
[18:16] <Kilos> hi kodez
[18:17] <kodez> uncle Kilos, how are you?
[18:17] <Kilos> ok ty and you kodez ?
[18:18] <kodez> i am better  than yesterday, thanks for asking
[18:19] <Kilos> lol you always better than yesterday
[18:19] <Kilos> where does it end
[18:19] <Kilos> hehe
[18:19] <kodez> yes indeed. i keep on improving everyay
[18:20] <Kilos> good
[18:41] <inetpro> hmm....
[18:41] <inetpro> he's still minus minus
[18:41] <Kilos> hehe hi smile--
[18:42] <Kilos> hes feeling old tonight
[18:42] <smile--> :p
[18:42] <smile--> exams :(
[18:42] <Kilos> life is an exam laddy
[18:42] <Kilos> passing them all is the trick
[18:46] <smile--> ;)
[18:48]  * mazal peeks in
[19:12] <charl_> hi mazal, Kilos, smile--
[19:12] <Kilos> hi charl_
[19:12] <charl_> hahahaha what's up with the -- smile--
[19:12] <Kilos> hji mazal
[19:13] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:13] <Kilos> naand
[19:13] <charl_> hji - that sounds like hi in punjabi
[19:13] <Kilos> lol
[19:14] <smile--> charl_: I hate those exams :
[19:15] <smile--> :o
[19:20] <charl_> i know the feeling
[19:20] <charl_> i had to do itilv3 a few months ago
[19:20] <charl_> i didn't mind attending the course but don't ask me to write exams
[19:20] <charl_> in the end i passed with a good margin of safety but i still don't like it
[19:21] <charl_> ask me to do stuff, not write exams about doing stuff :)
[19:32] <smile--> byee :p
[19:32] <Kilos> toods smile--
[19:33] <smile--> good night oom kilos :)
[19:33] <Kilos> sleep tight lad
[19:33] <Kilos> grrr
[19:33] <inetpro> lekker slaap smi
[19:33] <Kilos> lol
[19:34] <inetpro> ai
[19:43] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za
[19:43] <Kilos> night all sleep tight
[19:54] <mazal> Sleep well everyone