[15:30] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[15:32] <jussi01> Does anyone know of a program I can use to permanently highlight pdf's??
[15:32] <sebastian_> when i install java in the termina, the license agreement appear, how do i accept?
[15:32] <epssi> why is there two Xorg's running by default? colosing the other one doesn't crash X, just seems to free some resources
[15:33] <sebastian_> when i install java in the termina, the license agreement appear, how do i accept?
[15:34] <sebastian_> when i install java in the termina, the license agreement appear, how do i accept?
[15:34] <sebastian_> when i install java in the termina, the license agreement appear, how do i accept?
[15:34] <sebastian_> when i install java in the termina, the license agreement appear, how do i accept?
[15:34] <JoshOvki> you type    yes
[15:34] <werner> sebastian_: just scroll down util you reach the end ...
[15:35] <sebastian_> i cant even scroll
[15:35] <JoshOvki> ah yeh, you must scroll down first
[15:35] <Lynoure> epssi: not by default, I bet... At least I only have one
[15:35] <JoshOvki> press the down button
[15:35] <sebastian_> it wont work
[15:35] <Lynoure> he certainly seemed to be able to press up button...
[15:36] <JoshOvki> tryed the page down button?
[15:36] <sebastian_> now
[15:37] <sebastian_> but when im done, it doesent accept
[15:37] <khaur> press tab
[15:37] <sebastian_> ok thx :D
[15:37] <hydrogen> how can I ensure an env variable is set in the environment kde starts in?
[15:37] <epssi> ok autostart installed, but there's no apps listed that im looking for (to stop from autostarting)
[15:40] <werner> epssi: make some links?
[15:40] <epssi> uh id prefer a GUI approach
[15:40] <werner> hydrogen: edit ~/.profile  ?
[15:40] <werner> epssi: mh, yes, place some links with konqu in it?
[15:41] <newbie> why mount -t smbfs -o user=devel,password=devel //devel2 /develop /mnt doesn't work?
[15:41] <epssi> werner sorry i don't understand could you please explain
[15:41] <sebastian_> how do i install java?
[15:42] <werner> epssi: open konqueror , 2 windows, and drag n' drop apps to the autostart folder?
[15:42] <BluesKaj> !java | sebastian_
[15:42] <ubotu> sebastian_: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[15:43] <epssi> werner im looking for a way to stop apps from autostarting, not to autostart them
[15:43] <schiste> Edgy, little old fashioned isn't it ?
[15:43] <werner> newbie: is the a " " (space) to mouch in your command between //devel2 /develop ? what doues the output say?
[15:43] <werner> epssi: uups, sorry !  :-))
[15:43] <werner> epssi: what apps are this?
[15:44] <sebastian_> i dont know what java to install
[15:44] <werner> sebastian_: current java j2dk from the sun homepage ?
[15:44] <sebastian_> how do i install the file? i tryed that but dont know what program i need
[15:44] <jussi01> sebastian_: I mention it earlier: sun-java6-jre
[15:45] <epssi> werner konqueror & kwallet
[15:45] <werner> jussi01: oh, jre , not jdk .. upps :-)
[15:45] <c1|freaky> hi all. is there a possibility to store the information from contact on a dedicated server? like the calendar and addressbook?
[15:45] <sebastian_> where do i find it?
[15:45] <werner> epssi: try close this apps and save the profile when shuting donw kde ...
[15:46] <sebastian_> jussi01  where can i find it?
[15:47] <epssi> then again i would like to start just a fresh session when i log in, but i dont want to be bothered to close every window when i logout/shutdown
[15:47] <jussi01> sebastian_: system -> adept
[15:48] <sebastian_> thx
[15:48] <jussi01> sebastian_: you may need to go to the manage repositories in the menu and tick the multivers repository
[15:49] <FaiDillinGer> whats the easiest way to get a LAMP server ready on kubuntu 7.10 plz ?
[15:50] <jussi01> !lamp
[15:50] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[15:50] <FaiDillinGer> thx jussi01
[15:51] <jussi01> :)
[15:53] <n3x^> i cant seem to get a desktop shortcut to work anymore, the program runs through konsole fine, but when i try make a shortcut it fails misserably
[15:53] <n3x^> any ideas? :[
[15:54] <werner> n3x^: wrap it with xterm  (like : xterm -e application )
[15:54] <epssi> any ideas why get duplicate Xorg on startup?
[15:54] <BluesKaj> n3x^, how are you making the "shortcut" , from the kmenu ?
[15:55] <n3x^> um, well i just installed kde4 so its all a bit weird, i cant just right click on desktop and create a link to application
[15:55] <n3x^> but essentially its a program.desktop
[15:56] <BluesKaj> n3x^, use the kmenu / add to desktop option
[15:56] <Liono> I am planning to open a larg internet cafe based on linux. I am not a geek but used linux for a while. i heard that its possible to use as many user accounts simultaniously with only one cpu and may moniters +  key board mice. is that a good idea?
[15:56] <werner> program.desktop contains only some infos, you may edit it with kedit or something ... :-)
[15:56] <werner> bye!
[15:57] <n3x^> u dont actually have the program in kmenu though
[15:57] <n3x^> i*
[15:58] <BluesKaj> n3x^, what apps are you trying to add ?
[15:58] <n3x^> under command i have : /home/user/program/program and under work path i have /home/user/program/
[15:59] <n3x^> um, a game called tibia ^^
[15:59] <n3x^> i had the shortcut working fine under kde3
[15:59] <n3x^> but in kde4 its being mean to me
[15:59] <BluesKaj> kde4 | n3x^
[15:59] <BluesKaj> !kde4 | n3x^
[15:59] <ubotu> n3x^: KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[16:00] <manuel__> have anybody had problems with a frozen laptop after a few minutes running???
[16:00] <BluesKaj> n3x^, Support in #kubuntu-kde4, might be better than here.
[16:01] <n3x^> yeh, im trying, bit quiet in there though
[16:02] <n3x^> no answer in kde either
[16:02] <sebastian_> i cant get java to work
[16:03] <sebastian_> how do i get java to work?
[16:03] <BluesKaj> sebastian_, a hint about installing java, make sure you've agreed to the disclaimer , sometimes ppl miss that
[16:03] <sebastian_> i did
[16:04] <sebastian_> but i still cant get it to work with firefox
[16:04] <sebastian_> can u explain how u installed it?
[16:04] <BluesKaj> I used adept
[16:04] <sebastian_> what did u search for?
[16:05] <BluesKaj> sun java
[16:05] <BluesKaj> not jre
[16:05] <sebastian_> ok
[16:05] <BluesKaj> if you got jre1.4 ..uninstall it , use either sun jave 5 or 6
[16:05] <sebastian_> but now it came up a lot of diffrent java
[16:06] <sebastian_> ok
[16:06] <BluesKaj> I use 6
[16:06] <scott_> quick question: If I want to halt my computer in 30 minutes do I type "sudo halt 1800" ?
[16:06] <icewaterman> did anyone try to install grub on kubuntu for amd64
[16:06] <sebastian_> i have them installed
[16:06] <sebastian_> maby i need to restart the comp?
[16:07] <icewaterman> sebastian_: restarting computer is only necessary in case you switch the kernel
[16:07] <icewaterman> sebastian_: and if you do it right not even then
[16:07] <sebastian_> ok
[16:07] <sebastian_> so why wont the java work?
[16:08] <BluesKaj> sebastian_, java-common is required as well
[16:08] <sebastian_> ok
[16:08] <BluesKaj> icewaterman, yes I had amd 64 working fine with grub
[16:08] <sebastian_> its alredy installed
[16:09] <BluesKaj> do you have FF open ? if so close it and restart it
[16:09] <sebastian_> maby i can install cnr, and install it from it
[16:09] <sebastian_> FF?
[16:09] <BluesKaj> firefox
[16:10] <sebastian_> ok
[16:10] <sebastian_> i have restarted it
[16:10] <MGalaxy> I use Keramik theme, almost all windows and buttons are blue, but in some APPs like Adept_manager|Manage repositories all of them are gray, why?
[16:11] <icewaterman> BluesKaj: i cannot install grub again. i can do so from 32-bit knoppix
[16:11] <icewaterman> but i cannot install it from ubuntu
[16:11] <sebastian_> blues?
[16:12] <sebastian_> blues u know someting more i can do?
[16:12] <sebastian_> do i need the sun java development kit?
[16:13] <BluesKaj> icewaterman, you most likely have it installed , it may be hidden , try this in the run command box: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst , then check if hiddenmenu is uncommented (no # in front)
[16:13] <brian_> Help!! I have installed the newest Nvidia drivers and now my monitior is really screwed up!
[16:13] <sebastian_> brian, uninstall it
[16:13] <icewaterman> BluesKaj: no, i cannot reinstall it (grub-install /dev/hda)
[16:13] <brian_> The screen is too small, I can't
[16:13] <icewaterman> BluesKaj: the package is there
[16:14] <BluesKaj> I'm not telling you to install grub, just to check and edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[16:15] <Sbucat> exist a boot-up manager for kubuntu ?
[16:15] <Liono> I am planning to open a larg internet cafe based on linux. I am not a geek but used linux for a while. i heard that its possible to use as many user accounts simultaniously with only one cpu and may moniters +  key board mice. is that a good idea?
[16:15] <brian_> Ah ok I am uninstalling the nVidia Drivers.. This happened before aswell.Do I need to get different Drivers?
[16:15] <icewaterman> BluesKaj: i have, but grub is not in mbr anymore
[16:15] <icewaterman> so i need to reinstall
[16:15] <icewaterman> that can be done by grub-install /dev/hda
[16:15] <sebastian_> dont, install any driver, just let it be
[16:16] <icewaterman> but not for me
[16:16] <icewaterman> for some reason that always fails
[16:16] <sebastian_> it usally get screwed up when u install a driver that doesent come with ubuntu
[16:16] <brian_> Where can I find the correct drivers for my 6200? Aparently the default ones are wrong..
[16:16] <aos101> MGalaxy: It's probably like that in Adept because Adept is run as root (not as your own user), so it is styled according to the settings of the root user.  Go Kicker -> Run Command and run "kdesu kcontrol" and under the themes bit change it to look how you want.
[16:17] <sebastian_> download from nvidia, but i dont know how it will work
[16:17] <noaXess> i'm searching for a software like submitwolf but for linux... it's for submit websites to search engines.. any hint?
[16:17] <sebastian_> or use the update manager
[16:18] <BluesKaj> icewaterman, did you install windows after installing kubuntu ?
[16:20] <negro> ayuda pa un novato?
[16:20] <BluesKaj> !grub | icewaterman
[16:20] <ubotu> icewaterman: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[16:21] <BluesKaj> !es | negro
[16:21] <ubotu> negro: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:21] <negro> gracias
[16:21] <BluesKaj> de nada
[16:22] <sebastianito> Can someone help me with installing Java!?
[16:23] <SlimeyPete> !java
[16:23] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[16:23] <sebastianito> i have
[16:23] <SlimeyPete> sebastianito: what's the problem exactly?
[16:23] <sebastianito> i tryed evrything nothing works
[16:23] <sebastianito> i cant get java to work, i have installed the sun java 6 and it still wont work
[16:23] <SlimeyPete> how do you mean "won't work". Do you see an error message?
[16:24] <Lynoure> SlimeyPete: does not work how?
[16:24] <Lynoure> oops...
[16:24] <SlimeyPete> Are you trying to run a .jar, or compile some code, or what?
[16:24] <sebastianito> when i start a game in firefox, it still says missing plugin
[16:25] <SlimeyPete> sebastianito: you've install sun-java6-plugin?
[16:25] <sebastianito> let me check
[16:26] <sebastianito> haha no i didn't
[16:27] <sebastianito> it will probably work now, thx :D
[16:27] <SlimeyPete> :)
[16:27] <sebastianito> yup, it works
[16:28] <SlimeyPete> :)
[16:28] <sebastianito> thx
[16:29] <icewaterman> BluesKaj: my point is, that i cannot run grub-install because it always fails
[16:29] <icewaterman> BluesKaj: i know this howto and i do what it says but i always get grub: asmstub.c:170: grub_stage2: Assertion `ret == 0' failed.
[16:29] <icewaterman> Aborted
[16:29] <icewaterman> THAT is my problem
[16:30] <werner> icewaterman: maybe you should install another version of grub!
[16:30] <icewaterman> werner: ?
[16:30] <icewaterman> werner: that is the default version of grub i use
[16:31] <werner> icewaterman: yes, i thought so ... ok, try deinstall and reinstall it (with "purge" !)
[16:32] <icewaterman> btw, though i am on amd64 it seems to be the 32bit version of grub (suppose there is no amd64 version)
[16:33] <icewaterman> werner: even running "grub" does give me the same error
[16:36] <werner> icewaterman: oh .. mh .. have you moved stage2 and removed it back?
[16:36] <werner> !lvm
[16:36] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[16:36] <icewaterman> werner: i removed it and installed it again
[16:36] <icewaterman> i am not using lvm
[16:37] <werner> icewaterman: lvm was not meaning you sorry :-)
[16:37] <icewaterman> werner: np
[16:39] <werner> icewaterman: i had sometimes problems with grub, too, and i never saw what could caused the problems ... i reinstalled it , build the disk-table new and run grub-install ...
[16:39] <werner> icewaterman: maybe try to minimize first your grubmenu file and try to install grub ...
[16:40] <icewaterman> werner: grub alone doesnt work (not the config file)
[16:40] <icewaterman> werner: when you type grub it should give you the grub console
[16:43] <werner> icewaterman: thats right. not even this works?
[16:44] <werner> icewaterman: have you tried: apt-get purge grub? and reinstelled it?
[16:44] <icewaterman> werner: tried
[16:44] <werner> icewaterman: damn
[16:44] <vamsi> Hi, can somebody help me with the installation of a small program called emotif? It is a molecular biology related program
[16:45] <werner> icewaterman: seems to be a hard one ...
[16:45] <icewaterman> werner: bbl
[16:45] <icewaterman> maybe this is a kernel issue
[16:46] <werner> icewaterman: may be... have you build your own one?
[16:46] <icewaterman> werner: it is a kernel issue (i use that pax-security patches)
[16:46] <icewaterman> werner: yes
[16:47] <icewaterman> werner: fixed it
[16:47] <werner> icewaterman: than it seems to be, that you are alone with this problem :)
[16:47] <werner> s/than/the/
[16:47] <icewaterman> werner: right
[16:47] <werner> s/the/then *lol*
[16:48] <werner> icewaterman: how did you fixed it?
[16:48] <icewaterman> werner: pax has several features that can be disabled on a per binary basis
[16:49] <werner> icewaterman: so you thied various configs ... ?
[16:49] <werner> tried
[16:50] <icewaterman> werner: no you can write flags to the header of a binary that pax-enabled kernels read and then allow to run the program with only the restrictions you configured
[16:51] <icewaterman> that way you can disable some features for some binaries and protect the rest.
[16:52] <werner> icewaterman: ah, ok, i have no idea of pax :-)  as long as it worx :-)  !
[16:52] <icewaterman> yeah, it does
[16:52] <aeternius> Hi how is everyone here? I just installed Kubuntu. I am new to linux. When I click on "Add Remove Programs" nothing happens (except the icon bounces) the same thing happens if I click System - Adept Manager.
[16:53] <theTheme> Hey everyone, I just installed wengo and I'm having problems with the port that is is connecting over, I want to change it to port 16588 but I can't seem to find where that option is
[16:54] <negro> #kubuntu_es
[16:54] <white_eagle> why is KDE 4 with so sluggish performance at me?
[16:54] <unagi> can anyone help me wth my resolution? its 1024 x 768 and my screen is 1440 x 900
[16:54] <icewaterman> unagi: had a similar problem and no good solution, just a workarround
[16:55] <linuxman> hello everyone! i just tried out kde 4.0... very nice
[16:55] <unagi> work around? my resolution was right before...
[16:55] <ForgeAus> :) kewl linuxman :)
[16:55] <linuxman> altho i think it still needs alot of work...
[16:55] <icewaterman> unagi: did you upgrade to 7.10?
[16:55] <aeternius> Hi Unagi try; K Menu/ System Settings / Monitor & Display
[16:55] <nodesert> is there anyone who can help me about grub.It cant see the windows in boot loader menu.i reinstalled it but nothing changed
[16:55] <unagi> aeternius: the max resolution is 1024 x 768
[16:56] <aeternius> oh, I see
[16:56] <icewaterman> unagi: your xorg.conf is probably screwed
[16:56] <linuxman> now i have a problem.. i don't think its really big tho!
[16:56] <unagi> brb
[16:56] <aeternius> Sorry I don't know in that case unagi but good luck I hope you find a fix :)
[16:57] <linuxman> i really like kde 4.0 but i want to remove it for now... i tried it out and deleted everything from the panel.. can't seem to get everything back w/a mouse click
[16:57] <unagi> what could be screwed in the xorg to not let me go higher than 1024 x 768
[16:57] <MGalaxy> I have a problem with compiz: http://phpfi.com/296039
[16:57] <linuxman> i know there are wigets and stuff.. but the panel is just not working for me
[16:58] <aeternius> When I click "Add Remove Programs" nothing happens. How do I add and remove programs?
[16:58] <linuxman> i think i'll wait for kde 4.1; how do i remove it from gnome? i tried sudo apt-get remove kde... but the apps are still there
[16:59] <unagi> can anyone help me troubleshoot why my max resolution is 1024 x 768 but my screen is 1440 x 900
[16:59] <unagi> linuxman sudo apt-get remove --purge kde
[17:00] <linuxman> unagi: i have other programs i like that are kde... such as k3b... will they b removed too?
[17:01] <MrJigsaw> uhm.. is there any chance i can get in contact with my windows sharing's with kubuntu? :)
[17:02] <arcticpenguin380> is jfs faster than ext3
[17:08] <denis> hallo
[17:08] <denis> can anyone help me?
[17:09] <pag> denis, with..?
[17:09] <denis> hello
[17:09] <denis> I have a small problem
[17:09] <denis> yesterday I installed kubuntu
[17:09] <Pici> That is a problem.
[17:10] <Pici> Oh, sorry. I should be less sarcastic.
[17:10] <denis> and It said that there would be  a system upgrade available
[17:10] <denis> you are funny pici
[17:10] <denis> I did everything what it said
[17:10] <denis> downloaded all the files
[17:11] <denis> and then kubuntu asked me for a password
[17:11] <denis> and it didn't accept mine
[17:11] <Pici> Did you set up any additional users, or are you using the same user that you installed the system with?
[17:11] <denis> no additional users
[17:12] <denis> only one user
[17:12] <pag> denis, try the command line: sudo apt-get install -f
[17:12] <denis> is this once again a ubuntu joke? I know that it had problems with su in former times too
[17:13] <denis> hmpf
[17:13] <denis> it says
[17:13] <denis> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[17:14] <jpatrick> !aptfix | denis
[17:14] <ubotu> denis: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[17:14] <MrJigsaw> http://peecee.dk/upload/view/97245/full Does this meen im using 475Mb ram ?
[17:14] <pag> denis, sudo dpkg --configure -a  ? :P
[17:14] <unagi> can anyone help me figure out why no matter what i do, my max resolution is wrong?
[17:14] <denis> perhaps ;-)
[17:15] <denis> what shell I do?
[17:16] <denis> keep the current files
[17:16] <denis> or
[17:16] <denis> accept the new one?
[17:16] <jpatrick> denis: keep current
[17:18] <denis> pag?
[17:18] <denis> thanks
[17:19] <denis> it's working
[17:20] <brian_> Hey I have about 30g of unpartitioned space on my hard drive.. how do I merge than into my ext3?
[17:21] <jussi01> !info qtparted
[17:21] <ubotu> qtparted (source: qtparted): A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu12 (gutsy), package size 206 kB, installed size 720 kB
[17:21] <jussi01> brian_: ^^
[17:21] <brian_> I am looking at Qtparted but it doesn't give me that option. it lets me format it to ext2, but that's not what I need.
[17:23] <BluesKaj> brian_, try Gparted live cd , more options and easier to use
[17:23] <BluesKaj> !gparted
[17:23] <ubotu> GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[17:23] <brian_> Ok I will try that. thanks.
[17:23] <coreymon77> meh
[17:23] <coreymon77> i just use a kubuntu livecd that has qtparted included
[17:24] <BluesKaj> gparted is easier
[17:24] <BluesKaj> and more effective
[17:24] <coreymon77> i like qtparted, but thats just my preference
[17:24] <unagi> Generic Monitor doesnt work either
[17:24] <kenox> how to configure compiz in kubuntu?
[17:24] <BluesKaj> !compiz-fusion
[17:24] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[17:24] <unagi> same as gnome kenox
[17:25] <kenox> how?
[17:25] <kenox> command..?
[17:25] <unagi> ccsm
[17:25] <BluesKaj> kenox,The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[17:27] <kenox> how do i use debs from my current installation to a new one?
[17:29] <kenox> ?
[17:29] <denis> it s me again
[17:29] <denis> I checked adept and it again says that iI have the possibility to upgrade
[17:29] <kenox> i had this problem for a long time now
[17:29] <Edulix> hi
[17:29] <Edulix> is there a command to change a file from a codification to another, ie. from iso-8859-1 to utf-8?
[17:32] <denis> nobody??
[17:32] <BluesKaj> denis, pls explain
[17:33] <jussi01> !aptoncd | kenox
[17:33] <ubotu> kenox: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[17:34] <brian__> I was just in this IRC asking how to merge to partitions.. Gparted won't work for me on the live CD for some reason.. It has before but it won't load up.
[17:37] <kenox> aptoncd?
[17:37] <BluesKaj> brian__, Gparted live cd or Qtparted on kubuntu live cd ?
[17:37] <kenox> does it make repositories
[17:37] <kenox> or distro?
[17:37] <jussi01> kenox: did you read what the bot said?
[17:38] <brian__> Well, Qparted doesn't do what I need it to. I loaded Gparted with the konsole, even right now, it's still trying to load the devices.
[17:38] <kenox> yup
[17:38] <jussi01> kenox: then you know the answer... ;)
[17:39] <BluesKaj> brian__, GParted is meant to be burned onto a cd ..it's a bootable cd
[17:39] <jussi01> !gparted
[17:39] <ubotu> GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[17:39] <kenox> i want to know if it creates just the repositor for the cache folder of apt
[17:39] <brian__> Whoa!
[17:39] <jussi01> kenox: all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[17:39] <brian__> Looks like I had my arse backwards, thanks guys
[17:40] <jussi01> brian__: :)
[17:40] <brian__> You guys rock!
[17:40] <kenox> thanks
[17:41] <phoenixz> Is there a way that I can send emails from the command line? like, mail user@server "subject" "body" ?\
[17:41] <genii> phoenixz: Yes, install mailutils
[17:42] <genii> phoenixz: Then you can do like:  mail -s "subject" someone@somewhere            then type in body, a period when finished
 it s me again
[17:43] <denis> [18:28] <denis> I checked adept and it again says that iI have the possibility to upgrade
[17:43] <denis> [18:29] <denis> If I would upgrade it will again ask for the password at the end
[17:43] <denis> [18:29] <denis> which it didn't accept
[17:43] <denis> [18:29] <denis> any suggestions how to bypass that problem?
[17:43] <phoenixz> genii, that would be like interactive, not? would it also be possible to do all with one command line? so that I could use that command in a shell script to send mails?
[17:44] <jussi01> !paste | denis
[17:44] <ubotu> denis: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:44] <denis> what??
[17:44] <phoenixz> genii, I think echo "the body" | mail user@server -s "subject" :)
[17:44] <genii> phoenixz: You can make the body some text file then:   mail -s "subject" someone@somewhere < bodytextfile
[17:44] <phoenixz> denis, in plain english, you cant paste in here
[17:44] <denis> pff
[17:44] <denis> incredible
[17:44] <phoenixz> denis, makes a hell of a mess.. because of that, you use pastebins..
[17:45] <denis> I don't know pastebins
[17:45] <phoenixz> denis, No-one is forcing you to be here.. But if you are here, these are the rules
[17:45] <phoenixz> denis, its simple
[17:45] <denis> so I will write it again
[17:45] <phoenixz> denis, you paste in a website specially built for these purposes
[17:45] <denis> ok
[17:45] <denis> thanks
[17:45] <phoenixz> denis, these websites will give you a link
[17:45] <phoenixz> denis, you post that link here, et voila
[17:46] <denis> for 4 lines?
[17:46] <phoenixz> denis, try rafb.net/paste
[17:46] <denis> no thanks
[17:46] <JoshOvki> phoenixz: how long do they keep the paste bins for? I could go look but im lazy and woundered if you knew off hand.
[17:46] <denis> I will write it again
[17:46] <jussi01> denis: anything over 3 lines you should paste.
[17:46] <denis> I installed Kubuntu on my laptop yesterday
[17:46] <denis> ok
[17:46] <phoenixz> denis, if you want somebody to spend 30 minutes to help you its not very nice if you won't even take the 2 minutes to correctly pastebin somehting..
[17:47] <denis> I see
[17:47] <jussi01> denis: also you could take notte of !enter
[17:47] <jussi01> !enter
[17:47] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[17:47] <phoenixz> JoshOvki, it depends on the paste bin site
[17:47] <denis> aha
[17:47] <Dunas> Hi.
[17:47] <phoenixz> JoshOvki, IIRC, they keep it for about a month, but you can often specify it
[17:47] <JoshOvki> phoenixz: fair enough :) thanks
[17:48] <Dunas> Kubuntu has a list of blisted drivers, right?
[17:48] <denis> ok, yesterday I installed Kubuntu on my laptop, I checked the updates with adept and it said there would be the possibility to upgrade. I did so but at the end the process asked for my password which it didn accept
[17:48] <phoenixz> denis, in any case, what exactly is your adept problem?
[17:49] <phoenixz> denis, didnt quite understand what you wrote there about the password.. its a problem that adept asks you for a password?
[17:49]  * Dunas watches the torrent download ever so slowly. @.@
[17:49] <phoenixz> Dunas, blisted drivers?
[17:49] <phoenixz> Dunas, you mean like closed source drivers?
[17:49] <Dunas> Yes, such as the RTL818x ones.
[17:49] <phoenixz> Dunas, sorry, don't understand the "blisted" part of it :)
[17:50] <Dunas> I remember trying Ubuntu, and in order to force this laptop to connect to the internet, I had to modify the blacklisted drivers- I think they refer to the closed source ones, or ones that cause fatal errors.
[17:51] <Dunas> ...and with 150 kB/s, Bittornado says it'll take three hours more than when it hit 1 kB/s. Oo
[17:51] <phoenixz> Dunas, Ah, thats more often about malfunctioning drivers I think.. But closed source drivers are also discouraged as they are -officially- illegal.. However, they are not banner AFAIK, you have to use the "restricted driver manager" to install them
[17:51] <unix_infidel> anyone know if the ipod touch can do 802.11x authentication yet?
[17:52] <denis> so I could't upgrade, the process was blocked. 30 min ago a nice person here helped me to solve the problem. My question is what I have to do to solve the problem when I want to upgrade once again
[17:53] <MrJigsaw> http://peecee.dk/upload/view/97245/full Does this meen im using 475Mb ram ?
[17:53] <Dunas> phoenixz, all I remember from that time was that I had to do something in the terminal and remove the RTL818x driver from the list. I think it was "sudo gedit blist" or something.
[17:53]  * JoshOvki taps fingers while headers update
[17:53] <Dunas> The Restricted Driver Manager didn't help.
[17:53] <Dunas> Nor, for the record, did ndiswrapper. Oddly enough.
[17:54] <JoshOvki> Dunas: did you have to edit  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist   ?
[17:54] <Dunas> That's the file.
[17:54] <JoshOvki> Dunas: it wasnt something like      echo "blacklist ath_pci" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist    was it?
[17:54] <phoenixz> MrJigsaw, I guess it does
[17:55] <Dunas> ...no, not that complex.
[17:55] <JoshOvki> ok
[17:55] <phoenixz> Dunas, what JoshOvki says..
[17:55] <Dunas> I had to open it in gedit and remove the rtl818x drive from the list. The wireless worked perfectly following that.
[17:55] <phoenixz> Dunas, I mean, Im pretty sure you're talking about that file
[17:56] <phoenixz> Dunas, you could open it using gedit yeah, but you'd have to use sudo to edit it as root user
[17:56]  * JoshOvki goes back into his corner and allows phoenixz to sort it out
[17:56] <phoenixz> Dunas, then you can comment out the driver using #
[17:56] <Dunas> Right. "sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"
[17:56] <phoenixz> Dunas, yeap
[17:56] <Dunas> I was wondering if Kubuntu had something similar, since that was the only way this crappy integrated card would work.
[17:58] <unagi> can anyone help me figure out why ubuntu doesnt give me the right resolution?
[17:58] <JoshOvki> unagi: have you tryed to edit your xorg.conf  yet?
[17:58] <phoenixz> unagi, ubuntu or kubuntu? IIRC, kubuntu has some problem with getting the right screen resolution
[17:58] <unagi> yes
[17:58] <phoenixz> !resolution
[17:58] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[17:59] <unagi> kubuntu
[17:59] <phoenixz> !resolution | unagi
[17:59] <ubotu> unagi: please see above
[17:59] <phoenixz> Dunas, on what other system did you try this then?
[17:59] <phoenixz> Dunas, try cat  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[18:00] <Dunas> This one. I eventually had to go back to Windows XP for other reasons that aren't present now.
[18:01] <thomas_newbie__> how can i check if I have arpd installed? or any package for that matter
[18:01] <thomas_newbie__> can i query with apt-get?
[18:01] <phoenixz> Dunas, and try find /lib/modules/ -name *818*
[18:03] <phoenixz> thomas_newbie__, Not 100% but apt-cache should be able to help you with that.. try man apt-cache
[18:03] <JoshOvki> thomas_newbie__ try   sudo apt-get install arpd   it will tell you if it is installed and if it isnt it will ask you do you want to install
[18:04] <unagi> still doesnt work
[18:04] <unagi> !resolution
[18:04] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:05] <JoshOvki> thomas_newbie__ or if you run   apt-cache pkgnames    it should give you a full list of applications installed on ur pc
[18:05] <alromaithi> guys what is plasmoids and how to install please
[18:06] <thomas_newbie__> JoshOvki: aw cool
[18:06] <thomas_newbie__> well i found it
[18:06] <phoenixz> alromaithi, thats a KDE4 feature, and you need to install / use KDE4 to use it
[18:07] <thomas_newbie__> i'm using honeyd and i'm trying to set up a honeypot....any help or references?
[18:07] <alromaithi> i have kde 4  :D  but where is the options for it and to put my plasmoids downloads that i got from kde?
[18:07] <phoenixz> alromaithi, if you're using kubuntu, you can add a KDE4 repository to install KDE4 right next to your current KDE3 to try it
[18:07] <phoenixz> !plasmoids
[18:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plasmoids - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:07] <phoenixz> !plasma
[18:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plasma - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:08] <phoenixz> alromaithi, I'd suggest google :) Im not an expert yet
[18:08] <phoenixz> thomas_newbie__, google, and maybe there is a honey channel on freenode?
[18:08] <JoshOvki> alromaithi:  try installing    extragear-plasma   p.s. this should be asked in  #kubuntu-kde4
[18:08] <jussi01> alromaithi: join #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 support
[18:09] <thomas_newbie__> phoenixz: i checked and no
[18:09] <alromaithi> i googled but google queries kde-look.org plasmoids stuff but not the project phoenixz
[18:09] <flats> Is there any way to play drm files in Ubuntu yet?  For instance, I'm trying to use netflix to play an online movie but it says of course it needs IE and Media player.  Is there a way to play that in linux?
[18:10] <JoshOvki> thomas_newbie__: interesting subject honey pots. I've been using one in university for the past year. But thats on a windows 2003 server
[18:10] <genii> install User Agent Switcher extension for Firefox, then tell it to pretend you're running IE7 and vista
[18:10] <phoenixz> flats,  you *could* try mplayer.. if it works, let me know :)
[18:11] <phoenixz> thomas_newbie__, in that case, google..
[18:11] <Level15> hi all
[18:11] <unagi> i dont understand why i cant have the right resolution
[18:11] <Level15> anyone experienced broken KDE today after installing language updates?
[18:11] <phoenixz> unagi, Using 2 monitors?
[18:12] <alromaithi> phoenixz: i have something to say which gave me a headache since i talked about Ubuntu for everybody
[18:12] <phoenixz> Level15, what is broken exactly?
[18:12] <unagi> phoenixz: no
[18:12] <phoenixz> alromaithi, say what? :)
[18:12] <Level15> phoenixz, nearly all kde apps fail to initialize. msg on console says kdecore (KLocale): WARNING: Definition of PluralForm is none of NoPlural/TwoForms/French/OneTwoRest/Russian/Polish/Slovenian/Lithuanian/Czech/Slovak/Arabic/Balcan/Macedonian/Gaeilge/Maltese: Definition of PluralForm - to be set by the translator of kdelibs.po
[18:12] <alromaithi> phoenixz: they say it sux :(  because i cant prove that its good and looks glossy , the reason is beacause i dont know how to make it look glossy
[18:13] <Level15> this started happening after installing updates today, and is happening both on desktop and laptop
[18:13] <phoenixz> alromaithi, ah.. Well, compiz usually does the trick quite nicely.. 50% of people I've shown it actually convert within the day.. :)
[18:13] <phoenixz> alromaithi, in about 1 more month I guess, when KDE4 is ironed out (read, stable enough), KDE4 will DEFINATELY convert people.. KDE4 is like the definition for glossy I suppose
[18:14] <alromaithi> phoenixz: i can make ubuntu look glossy and cool because its easy to do such thing for gnome , but in KDE Kubuntu its very hard and complicated i  get a headache i sometimes stay for 8 days in a row just wasting my time gazing on the PC  trying to make it look glossy but in th eend i get pissed and go and do something crazy because of such tiring pain
[18:14] <phoenixz> Level15, that does sound like a prob. yeah.. Id recommend doing a reinstall of the kde libs with adept manager..
[18:14] <alromaithi> phoenixz: i have compiz but now with KDE4 compiz is not supported
[18:14] <JoshOvki> alromaithi you see the link i pasted in the the other channel?
[18:15] <Level15> phoenixz, adept doesn't start either :-P though i can do it by hand...
[18:15] <phoenixz> KDE4 should work with compiz, but it actuallyu doesnt need it, it has its own render engine
[18:15] <phoenixz> alromaithi, read the above
[18:15] <phoenixz> Level15, in that case, apt-get
[18:15] <jussi01> alromaithi: you need to keep your kde4 questions to #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[18:15] <phoenixz> Level15, not sure if it works, but try apt-get update kde*
[18:15] <Level15> phoenixz, it's just kind of outrageous that the updates break the system...
[18:16] <phoenixz> Level15, it would be yeah, but Ive had a near problem these past few days too.. it was only because of cautiously checking the update list that I saw that kubuntu would remove some 20% of my software, bu accident. it was fixed in the hour..
[18:17] <phoenixz> Level15, its a slip up I guess.. A bad one, surely
[18:17] <alromaithi> phoenixz:  your saying KDE4 is better then compiz? i thought compiz is the only one with magic lamp minmize and closing sidekicks with great rain and snow with leaf  aside s falling and cover tabing and etc..
[18:18] <Level15> phoenixz, yeah... pretty bad one... thanks god it's KDE, not something more vital like apache, LDAP or samba
[18:18] <phoenixz> alromaithi, not saying its better.. Its built in for one, so really part of kde.. that would be better I suppose.. Worse would be that its missing many of the special effects that compiz has.. but that would be a #kubuntu-kde4 channel discussion..
[18:19] <phoenixz> Level15, strange still that it breaks.. I mean, this one time adept would simply remove packages by accident.. but not break them
[18:19] <Level15> phoenixz, yeah... I'm actually surprised noone else has experienced it ... i thought I'd find a ton of people trying to fix it here on the channel
[18:21] <phoenixz> Level15, Meaning you probably did something out of the ordinary... probably..
[18:21] <phoenixz> Level15, using any 3rd party repos?
[18:21] <Level15> phoenixz, in the laptop, i did install kde4 but removed it later and switched back to the official repos. On the desktop, no unofficial repos
[18:22] <phoenixz> Level15, Im using the kde4 repo as well but its from kubuntu itself, which should work ok (besides that minor delete lots of stuff problem I had, which was kde4 repo related)
[18:23] <Level15> i think that when 8.04 comes out i'll reinstall from scratch... maybe will give a try to ubuntu too
[18:23] <MrJigsaw> Why is amarok SO fucked up :S ?!
[18:24] <jussi01> !ohmy | MrJigsaw
[18:24] <ubotu> MrJigsaw: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[18:24] <MrJigsaw> When i add number to a playlist, and plays the playlist, it just erases my collection ;S
[18:24] <phoenixz> Level15, for the time being.. try a reinstall of all kde related files
[18:24] <phoenixz> MrJigsaw, it erases files from disk?
[18:24] <MrJigsaw> No
[18:24] <Level15> phoenixz, yeah, i'm on that right now
[18:24] <MrJigsaw> from collection
[18:26] <phoenixz> MrJigsaw, Amarok rocks over here.. If you have a problem with it, try the #amarok channel
[18:26] <phoenixz> MrJigsaw, more chance they will help you there
[18:26] <MrJigsaw> oh, dident know there was a such :)
[18:26] <MrJigsaw> Thanks
[18:27] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[18:27] <MilhousePunkRock> !ssh
[18:27] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[18:27] <unagi> my lord this doesnt make any sense, if i have to reinstall kubuntu to fix a resolution problem, thats the end of linux for me
[18:27] <jpatrick> !msgthebot > MilhousePunkRock
[18:28] <stratman4300> unagi: your still working on that resolution issue from yesterday??
[18:28] <unagi> i guess kind of
[18:28] <unagi> i got the driver working but the resolution is wrong
[18:28] <unagi> all i want is 1440 x 900 to work
[18:28] <Liono> how to do this - one os on the server....has accounts..... users as clients using on diferent machings. ?
[18:28] <Liono> each user has seperate account and seperate client machine. (making a net cafe)
[18:29] <stratman4300> unagi: in the modes section in you xorg.conf file in the 24bit section do you have somehthing that reads 1440x900???
[18:29] <MilhousePunkRock> Liono: Kiosk mode might be what you are looking for
[18:29] <Liono> MilhousePunkRock whats that do
[18:30] <unagi> yup
[18:30] <stratman4300> but kde won't let you set it to that??
[18:30] <MilhousePunkRock> Liono: I don't really know... Google probably knows ;) Basically it should be possible...
[18:30] <unagi> kde nor nvidia-settings
[18:31] <stratman4300> unagi: what you could do is remove all other resolution entries EXCEPT 1440x900 from the 24bit field, thus forcing X to use 1440X900....  it's worth a shot
[18:31] <unagi> there are no other resolutions
[18:31] <stratman4300> hmmmm
[18:31] <stratman4300> how did you end up getting the driver to work??
[18:32] <jussi01> unagi: there is a preffered res setting you can add to xorg IIRC, dont remeber the correct syntax though
[18:32] <unagi> jussi01: wouldnt that require the res setting to be available in the settings already?
[18:34] <stratman4300> unagi: what solved your issue with the driver...  i'm just wondering for future reference
[18:34] <unagi> i dont remember
[18:34] <unagi> i guess i just reinstalled it
[18:34] <stratman4300> did it work after i walked you through recomiling it yesterday??
[18:35] <stratman4300> i had to go so didn't find out
[18:35] <unagi> i dont remember what exactly i had to do to get ubuntu to use nvidia
[18:35] <stratman4300> have you tried googling the resolution problems??
[18:35] <unagi> yes
[18:35] <MilhousePunkRock> unagi: Did you try nvidia-settings already?
[18:36] <unagi> what am i trying in nvidia-settings
[18:36] <MilhousePunkRock> unagi: Setting the resolution, the KDE control center section for displays is a bit flaky...
[18:36] <unagi> neither of them allow me to choose 1440 x 900
[18:37] <denis> hallo
[18:37] <MilhousePunkRock> Is your screen capable of it?
[18:37] <negro> spanish?
[18:37] <denis> I have a problem to upgrade
[18:37] <unagi> ......
[18:37] <unagi> it is the screens only resolution
[18:37] <MilhousePunkRock> !es | negro
[18:37] <ubotu> negro: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:37] <genii> !sp | negro
[18:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:38] <genii> ah, es, I forgot Espana
[18:38] <MilhousePunkRock> denis: Will it be Problem 2.0 afterwards? ;)
[18:38] <negro> genii
[18:38] <negro> un cable xfa
[18:38] <denis> sorry?
[18:39] <negro> milhousepunkrock
[18:39] <negro> tngo kbuntu instalao y kiero volver a xp
[18:39] <negro> pro no me arranca dsd cd instalacion
[18:39] <negro> d xp
[18:39] <negro> k hago?
[18:39] <denis> milhouse: my system doesn't want to upgrade because it doesn accept my password
[18:39] <MilhousePunkRock> negro: This is the english channel, the spanish channels are those that ubotu told you
[18:39] <jussi01> negro: type: /join #kubuntu-es
[18:39] <shastry> is there a way i can disable a module from loading on boot in grub?
[18:40] <shastry> i have to disable intel-agp to even boot the live cd... which i need info on how to accomplish
[18:40] <tim|imac> hi all, can someone please paste me a sources.list that is usuable to apt-get dist-upgrade from Debian etch to Kubuntu? I can't seem to find the correct sources.list :S
[18:40] <Level15> phoenixz, OK, reinstall did not help
[18:40] <jussi01> !blacklist | shastry
[18:40] <ubotu> shastry: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »
[18:40] <genii>  Me disculpo pero el español no es mi lengua materna.
[18:40] <shastry> jussi01: that wont help. i cant even boot the install disk
[18:40] <Level15> genii, just english on this channel, please
[18:41] <genii> Level15: I'm trying :)
[18:41] <JoshOvki> english and geek :)
[18:41] <Level15> lol
[18:41] <MilhousePunkRock> tim|imac: I guess that will reinstall everything...
[18:41] <phoenixz> Level15, same problem? sounds more like a config problem then
[18:41] <denis> I want to upgrade from 7.06 to 7.10
[18:41] <Level15> hey, seriously, none of you ended up with broken kde after today's language update?
[18:41] <Level15> phoenixz, yeah, same stuff
[18:41] <TimS> tim|imac: You cant.
[18:42] <phoenixz> Level15, problem then would be.. eeh.. I'd purge everything and reinstall, with apt-get as well.
[18:42] <genii> Level15: I went to an online transaltion and tried to tell negro: I apologise but spanish is not my language
[18:42] <tim|imac> MilhousePunkRock: yeah, but the Kubuntu 7.10 iso i just downloaded won't give me a live desktop in parallels :S
[18:42] <MilhousePunkRock> denis: You will need to know the sudo password after all...
[18:42] <Level15> genii, Oh, ok :P
[18:42] <denis> I do know it
[18:42] <phoenixz> Level15, problem is, purging kde files will also purge everything above that, so you'd have to reinstall all of that..
[18:42] <denis> only one account
[18:42] <Level15> jeez
[18:42] <Level15> i don't have time for that now
[18:42] <denis> but it doesn accept it
[18:42] <Level15> damn
[18:43] <MilhousePunkRock> denis: Does it say the password is wrong? Does it say that for all super user actions?
[18:43] <phoenixz> Level15, your situation sucks
[18:43] <phoenixz> ay, pardon my french
[18:43] <dragsta_> denis, have you testet sudo on console?
[18:43] <Level15> phoenixz, indeed it does
[18:43] <Level15> BIG TIME
[18:43] <denis> sudo works
[18:43] <phoenixz> Level15, Im trying to think of another solution.. Have you tried google yet?
[18:43] <MilhousePunkRock> tim|imac: Isn't parallels some virtualising thing? I am pretty sure there are pre-made images (like there are for vmware)
[18:44] <phoenixz> Level15, Im sure the problem is small in reality, just the results a re a bit bigger
[18:44] <denis> yes, it says that the password is wrong, but only in this case
[18:44] <dragsta_> why don't you upgrade with apt/aptitude?
[18:44] <tim|imac> i don't want premade images, i want my own partition scheme :P but if someone can paste me a sources.list, I can solve my problems :)
[18:44] <MilhousePunkRock> tim|imac: Just a regular sources.list?
[18:44] <tim|imac> yeah, more than enough, I'll localise it for nl myself :)
[18:45] <stratman4300> unagi: look at this link.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:45] <phoenixz> Level15, You could first simulate a purge and get a list of packages that would be removed.. copy that list to a file, then purge, then install from that file.. that way you dont have to remember what packages to install
[18:45] <Level15> phoenixz, to be honest, I am really close to make a backup and reinstall the whole OS
[18:45] <phoenixz> Level15, This procedure would not take much longer because if you just reinstalled kde* you should have all the packages in the apt cache still..
[18:46] <phoenixz> Level15, THAT would probably be even better :)
[18:47] <MilhousePunkRock> tim|imac: http://pastebin.ca/901514
[18:47] <Level15> phoenixz, i'll give it a try your way, if it fails i'll reinstall... not necessarily kubuntu
[18:47] <tim|imac> MilhousePunkRock: thx!
[18:48] <unagi> stratman4300: i have looked at that many times it doesnt work
[18:48] <stratman4300> unagi: what type of monitor do you have and what size is it??
[18:48] <unagi> its a laptop 15inch
[18:48] <stratman4300> unagi: wide??
[18:48] <unagi> yes
[18:49] <denis> I will retry upgrading now
[18:49] <stratman4300> unagi: what type of laptop make and modle please
[18:49] <unagi> hp dv6000t
[18:50] <phoenixz> Level15, good luck
[18:50] <Level15> phoenixz, thanks
[18:50] <stratman4300> unagi: and it has an nvidia video card??
[18:50] <unagi> xyes
[18:51] <stamen> hi
[18:51] <stamen> how can I uninstall kde4
[18:51] <denis> perhaps it will work this time
[18:51] <denis> see you later
[18:51] <blekos> hello, could u tell me the equivelant of gparted for kde?
[18:51] <stratman4300> unagi: that model has known issues with wide screen resolution.....   looking through work arounds right now
[18:51] <unagi> ???
[18:51] <stamen> blekos: qtparted
[18:51] <unagi> it worked before
[18:52] <stratman4300> unagi: yeah i know....  they seem to be intermitten issues....  the wiki even says...  "sometimes"  lol
[18:52] <stratman4300> unagi: still reading
[18:52] <unagi> it has worked ever since ive had ubuntu, it only stopped when i screwed up xorg
[18:52] <flats> ANy idea why I can see a data DVD in my CD-Rom but when I put a movie DVD in, nothing happens?
[18:53] <jussi01> !dvd | flats
[18:53] <ubotu> flats: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[18:54] <stratman4300> unagi: download this program for your distro this will install the propritary nvidia drivers and may solve your issue http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[18:54] <unagi> oh no no no no
[18:54] <unagi> last time i did that it crippled my machine
[18:55] <stratman4300> you've used envy??
[18:55] <unagi> no
[18:55] <unagi> proprietary drivers
[18:55] <stratman4300> i used this to install my drivers and it runs like a champ
[18:55] <stratman4300> not a singal issue
[18:56] <stratman4300> it's really a slick little program though....  totally up to you....  but i've experienced no problems with it or the propritary nvidia drivers.
[18:59] <jussi01> !envy | stratman4300
[18:59] <ubotu> stratman4300: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[19:00] <jussi01> stratman4300: we dont encourage envy here. Please dont suggest it
[19:01] <stratman4300> jussi01: sorry..  :| didn't know it was frowned upon....   he was just having resolution problems with the open-source driver. figured if could try a different driver it would help him troubleshot
[19:02] <jussi01> stratman4300: thats ok you didnt know, and now you do :)
[19:02] <stratman4300> :)
[19:11] <BluesKaj> Did an dapt update , now the kicker and panel crashed and are MIA (disappeared) ...what's the procedure to get them back ?
[19:11] <BluesKaj> erradept update
[19:11] <jussi01> BluesKaj: alt+f2 -> kicker ?
[19:13] <BluesKaj> tried that jussi01 , crash handler pops up
[19:14] <JoshOvki> im just installing the updates on my desktop now, i will see if it affects it
[19:14] <JoshOvki> i really hope not cause i did the updates on my laptop earlier but havnt restarted yet
[19:14] <MrJigsaw> How do i mount my harddrive ?
[19:14] <jussi01> BluesKaj: ouch
[19:14] <MrJigsaw> harddrives*
[19:15] <BluesKaj>  JoshOvki it crashed in the middle of a burn , while using K3B
[19:15] <JoshOvki> !mount :Mrjigsaw
[19:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mount :mrjigsaw - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:15] <jussi01> BluesKaj: was there a kernel update? does it need a restart?
[19:15] <JoshOvki> !mount
[19:15] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[19:15] <BluesKaj> yeah , there was a kernel update and I restarted
[19:16] <Dragonath> hey, any way to listen to streaming media that requires realplayer on kubuntu?
[19:16] <MrJigsaw> Dosent help me much, JoshOvki.
[19:16] <jussi01> BluesKaj: did you have custom settings you could remove via the . folder?
[19:16] <Level15> any kubuntu devels here?
[19:17] <JoshOvki> MrJigsaw:  Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem   mounting partitions should be the same process as drives
[19:17] <Level15> well, in case anyone is interested, language settings for english canada en_CA break KDE
[19:17] <jussi01> Level15: Id suggest #kubuntu-devel might have a few, but be very polite.
[19:17] <MrJigsaw> Well.. and what when im in there ?
[19:17] <jussi01> !bug | Level15:
[19:17] <ubotu> Level15:: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[19:18] <Level15> use qt-language-selector to switch to en_US
[19:18] <MrJigsaw> I cant seem to find anywhere that says 'mount' :|
[19:18] <jussi01> Level15: make sure you report the bug so it gets fixed
[19:18] <Level15> jussi01: oks
[19:18] <JoshOvki> MrJigsaw: does the drive not show up?
[19:19] <MrJigsaw> yes it does..
[19:19] <MrJigsaw> theyre all there..
[19:20] <JoshOvki> Click  Administrator Mode  and login, the select the drive and press new, it will then allow you to create a new mount
[19:20] <JoshOvki> BluesKaj: whats crashing for you?
[19:21] <MrJigsaw> Thanks, JoshOvki. :-)
[19:23] <unagi> !
[19:23] <jussi01> unagi: have you posted your problem to the forums?
[19:25] <jetsaredim> are there enough packages in the hardy repos to be able to build and install more plasmoids from kde-look?
[19:26] <jussi01> jetsaredim: #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 support :)
[19:27]  * jetsaredim didn't know there was a separate channel
[19:30] <JoshOvki> \join #kubuntu-kde4
[19:30] <JoshOvki> sorry
[19:30] <BluesKaj_> solved the Kicker and panel crash by resetting it in kcontrol
[19:31] <jussi01> BluesKaj_: heh, excellent
[19:31] <BluesKaj_> yeah jussi01 , I was worried for a min or 2 :)
[19:32] <jussi01> :)
[19:32] <BluesKaj_> prolly had too much going on simultaneously
[19:32] <MrJigsaw> JoshOvki: What should i call my mount points? Is it just like names on harddrives ?
[19:34] <jussi01>  MrJigsaw whatever you like that makes you remember them
[19:35] <JoshOvki> MrJigsaw: what jussi01 said, something that when you need to know which drive you are accessing you can be certian
[19:35] <BluesKaj_> BBL ...need to reset the router as well, still got a few probs here
[19:36] <MrJigsaw> uhm..
[19:38] <sebastian_> any one know how to fix a ftp server without using package manager
[19:38] <sebastian_> adept manager*
[19:39] <jussi01> sebastian_: depends on the issue, whats wrong ith it?
[19:39] <orbitize> When I start my computer, first I have to login with user/pw, then start kdm with sudo, and then I can log in normally. What can I do to fix this?
[19:39] <MrJigsaw> i cant get it working
[19:40] <sebastian_> i dont have a ftpserver i just want to install one, u know where i can get one?
[19:41] <MrJigsaw> Can it be true that i just lost all data at one of my 500GB harddrives because i tried to mount ?
[19:42] <sebastian_> where can i get an ftp server!?
[19:42] <juckum> http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffeine/drinks/A273/
[19:42] <juckum> :d
[19:42] <sluzba> hello, please, how name have czech kubuntu irc?
[19:43] <sebastian_> where can i get an ftp server!?
[19:43] <jussi01> !cz | sluzba
[19:43] <ubotu> sluzba: České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.
[19:43] <jussi01> !ot | juckum
[19:43] <ubotu> juckum: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[19:43] <sluzba> yea, no kubuntu, but ubuntu :D, thanks
[19:44] <sebastian_> where can i get an ftp server!?
[19:44] <sebastian_> where can i get an ftp server!?
[19:44] <sebastian_> where can i get an ftp server!?
[19:44] <sebastian_> where can i get an ftp server!?
[19:44] <jussi01> sebastian_: please dont do that
[19:44] <sebastian_> can someone help me?
[19:44] <jussi01> !ftpd
[19:44] <ubotu> FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[19:44] <jussi01> !patience | sebastian_
[19:44] <ubotu> sebastian_: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[19:45] <jussi01> sebastian_: so sudo apt-get install ftpd will get yu a ftp server
[19:45] <MrJigsaw> Uuuhm.. what dos this means: http://peecee.dk/upload/view/97272/full
[19:46] <sebastian_> ok thx a lot :)
[19:47] <sebastian_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[19:47] <sebastian_>  runit
[19:47] <sebastian_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[19:47] <sebastian_> why did i get that message?
[19:48] <jussi01> sebastian_: are you on hardy or gutsy?
[19:48] <sebastian_> what do u mean?
[19:48] <jussi01> sebastian_: which version of Kubuntu are you running?
[19:49] <sebastian_> the newest one,
[19:49] <sebastian_> dont know what number:P
[19:49] <jussi01> !release | sebastian_
[19:49] <ubotu> sebastian_: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[19:49] <jussi01> oops
[19:50] <MrJigsaw> http://peecee.dk/upload/view/97272/full <- How do i fix this? :(
[19:50] <sebastian_> i downloaded it yesturday so it is the newest
[19:52] <sebastian_> jussi
[19:53] <sebastian_> Jussi
[19:54] <jussi01> sebastian_: Please do in terminal: lsb_release -a
[19:54] <arcticpenguin380> is there a way to convert a filesystem
[19:54] <sebastian_> release: 7.10 :)
[19:54] <MrJigsaw> Noone can help me on this:
[19:54] <sebastian_> codename, gutsy
[19:54] <sluzba> please, how can i repair this:? cp: will not overwrite just-created `.../ntfs.ko' with `.../ntfs.ko'
[19:54] <MrJigsaw> http://peecee.dk/upload/view/97272/full
[19:55] <jussi01> sebastian_: ok. try in terminal: sudo apt-get install -f
[19:56] <sebastian_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[19:56] <sebastian_>  runit
[19:56] <sebastian_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1
[19:56] <bmk789> kmail has a message stuck in the inbox that i cant delete, how should i get rid of it?
[19:56] <jussi01> sebastian_: how did you try to install runit ?
[19:58] <sebastian_> i havent installed it, i dont even know what it is
[20:00] <sluzba> please, can you help me?
[20:00] <sebastian_> jussi01, what can i do?
[20:00] <jussi01> sluzba: what do you need
[20:00] <epsilorn> hi all!! Fairly new to Kubuntu, i'm trying to install latest alsa building the .deb but I've got this problem: could not find any packages for libasound.so.2
[20:00] <jussi01> sebastian_: wait until someone who knows comes? try posting on ubuntuforums.org?
[20:01] <sebastian_> what is the problem with the install then?
[20:01] <jussi01> epsilorn: 32bit install?
[20:01] <epsilorn> the problem is that when i do the debuild binary command it doesn't find that file (i tihink) but i have libasound installed so...
[20:01] <nhyu>  For some reason there are certain apps in gnome that won't work .... or lag.... kinda like they not refresh when I run them. When I combine Rhythmbox with Amsn, this happens... they get white with borders but no content. I installed KDE recentlly, has this something to do. Is there a way to reset gnome?
[20:02] <jussi01> epsilorn: got libasound2 installed?
[20:02] <epsilorn> yes 32bit
[20:02] <sebastian_> jussi01, what is the problem with the installation?
[20:02] <epsilorn> yes libasound2 installed that's what's strange
[20:03] <jussi01> sebastian_: I dont know. I suggest you be patient or google or post on the forums (or all 3)
[20:03] <jussi01> epsilorn: yeah, a little.
[20:04] <sebastian_> ok thx
[20:04] <jussi01> epsilorn: whats the reason you need the latest alsa
[20:04] <epsilorn> i downloaded the latest kernel headers and sound stopped working, so i thought.. well as i have to install it again why not downloading the latest version?
[20:05] <jussi01> epsilorn: out of curiosity, which sound card?
[20:05] <epsilorn> a part tha i have prbolems with headpphones jack not recognized
[20:05] <epsilorn> HDA Intel (i'm on laptop)
[20:06] <jussi01> !intelhda | epsilorn
[20:06] <ubotu> epsilorn: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[20:06] <nhyu> Is there a way to remove all those apps that came with KDE when I installed it from the repositories?
[20:06] <nhyu> In gnome
[20:06] <epsilorn> thanks i'll read this
[20:07] <sluzba> jussi01: please, how can i repair this:? cp: will not overwrite just-created `.../ntfs.ko' with `.../ntfs.ko'
[20:08] <jussi01> sluzba: what did you do to cause that?
[20:08] <jussi01> sluzba: were you installing something?
[20:08] <MrJigsaw> Anyone can help me with this: http://peecee.dk/upload/view/97272/full ??
[20:12] <sluzba> jussi01: i am installing openwrt-midge, and during copy of modules, it is happend
[20:13] <Lynoure> MrJigsaw: you could tempt more people to look at it by providing a summary... and more context to those who look... Is there a disk with label Storage?
[20:13] <jussi01> sluzba: Im not sure on that one sorry
[20:13] <MrJigsaw> Lynoure: nope.. i have one with label Storage Area
[20:15] <Lynoure> MrJigsaw: that could explain it then, if you have stuff in fstab for just Storage   (not sure how well fstab deals with names with whitespace)
[20:15] <jussi01> MrJigsaw: ahh, maybe try adding a \ after storage
[20:16] <jussi01> ie. Storage\ Area
[20:17] <jussi01> MrJigsaw: or removing the space from the name
[20:22] <thomas_newbie__> anyone know how to start arpd?
[20:24] <jussi01> thomas_newbie__: exactly what is arpd?
[20:24] <oloughlin75> Is there a way to fix my files if amarok currupted them?
[20:24] <MrJigsaw> Omigod..
[20:24] <MrJigsaw> Why cant i just mount that stupid harddrive..
[20:24] <MrJigsaw> Keeps comming up with new fails..
[20:24] <jussi01> MrJigsaw: what now?
[20:24] <thomas_newbie__> jussi01: ARP Daemon
[20:25] <MrJigsaw> jussi01: im trying to enable and mount a harddrive, but it just WONT work..
[20:25] <ashmaus> how do I "unlock" a folder?
[20:25] <jussi01> MrJigsaw: yeah, I know. what is the error now
[20:28] <MrJigsaw> Uploading picture, 2 secs.
[20:28] <oloughlin75> Whats the program for widgets called? Like karamba or something?
[20:28] <jussi01> !info superkaramba
[20:28] <ubotu> superkaramba (source: kdeutils): a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 533 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[20:28] <ziut3k> i dont know
[20:28] <ziut3k> use kde or gnome ?
[20:29] <ashmaus> Or how do I change the permissions of a folder?
[20:30] <oloughlin75> right click -> propeties -> permissions
[20:30] <jussi01> !permissions
[20:30] <ubotu> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[20:31] <MrJigsaw> jussi01: http://peecee.dk/upload/view/97284 <- Thats whats happening now.. :(
[20:31] <ashmaus> it says only the owner can change permissions. They were created by an install program
[20:31] <ziut3k> kurwa
[20:31] <Cambridge> ,
[20:31] <ziut3k> ja pierdole
[20:31] <oloughlin75> !adeptfix
[20:31] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:31] <jussi01> MrJigsaw: Im off to bed. hopefully someone else can help
[20:31] <jussi01> !en | ziut3k
[20:31] <ubotu> ziut3k: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[20:32] <ziut3k> ^^
[20:32] <MrJigsaw> Can anyone help whit this.. Im trying to mount/enable (dno wtf its doing) a harddrive, and i get this message: http://peecee.dk/upload/view/97284
[20:35] <yakuzi> does anyone know how to add an option to the right-click menu you got when you right clck on our desktop?
[20:37] <pietjephuck> Question; is the rss feed likly to be fixed?
[20:37] <pietjephuck> oops
[20:37] <pietjephuck> wrong channel
[20:37] <Arwen> has a patch been fixed for that local root exploit?
[20:37] <oloughlin75> where does superkaramba keep its widgets?
[20:37] <Arwen> been released*
[20:39] <nodesert> how can ı generate source.list:
[20:42] <delirious1> hi
[20:45] <delirious1> im drinking beer
[20:45] <delirious1> i woke up
[20:45] <delirious1> i was going to bed early tonight
[20:45] <delirious1> and then poff out of dream world
[20:46] <delirious1> it was a dream about hotdogs, but i didnt eat one when i woke up
[20:46] <delirious1> i decided to drink beer instead
[20:46] <delirious1> and this is a good idea
[20:46] <delirious1> right?
[20:46] <mattelacchiato> hi everyone
[20:46] <delirious1> hi
[20:46] <delirious1> what s up?
[20:47] <mattelacchiato> oh, actually i try to execute a command if i plug in an harddrive. but i don't know how :-)
[20:47] <yakuzi> problem solved, no need for answer anymore
[20:48] <delirious1> execucution sounds like a n idea
[20:48] <mattelacchiato> i don't understand, delirious1
[20:50] <delirious1> it was nothing sorrry
[20:50] <pietjephuck> delirious1: execurtion is nothing?
[20:50] <pietjephuck> delirious1: execution is nothing?
[20:51] <pietjephuck> I need a spell checker :(
[20:51] <mattelacchiato> useless for an irc-chat, pietjephuck
[20:51] <oloughlin75> !autostart
[20:51] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[20:51] <pietjephuck> mattelacchiato: lol
[20:52] <MrJigsaw> Can anyone help whit this.. Im trying to mount/enable (dno wtf its doing) a harddrive, and i get this message: http://peecee.dk/upload/view/97284
[20:53] <mefisto__> Konversation question: can I set it up to autoconnect on startup (instead of displaying the server list and waiting for input)?
[20:53] <oloughlin75> yes
[20:54] <nosrednaekim> mefisto__➜ yeah
[20:54] <mefisto__> nevermind, think I got it
[20:55] <oloughlin75> mefisto__: Get it?
[20:55] <mattelacchiato> MrJigsaw: There seems to be no disk with the labe "Storage"
[20:55] <mefisto__> oloughlin75: yep
[20:56] <oloughlin75> What is a program to make fractals?
[20:56] <unagi> gimp
[20:56] <unagi> why cant i have the right resolution anymore, this doesnt make a lick of sense
[20:56] <MrJigsaw> mattelacchiato: what do i have to do then ?
[20:57] <mattelacchiato> have you edited the /etc/fstab by your own?
[20:57] <MrJigsaw> Nope
[20:57] <mefisto__> why don't they use the kubuntu logo in kmenu by default? That K with the gears is so ugly
[20:58] <nosrednaekim> mefisto__➜ you mean on the side?
[20:58] <mefisto__> nosrednaekim: the icon on the button that pops up the menu
[20:58] <MrJigsaw> mattelacchiato: so you have a sugestion what i should do ? :)
[20:59] <nosrednaekim> mefisto__➜ oh..... in kde4?
[20:59] <mefisto__> nosrednaekim: gutsy (and all previous). I don't remember what kde4 kubuntu looks like
[21:00] <nosrednaekim> mefisto__➜ ah ok, well you can replace that image with another one if you would like/
[21:00] <mattelacchiato> what have you tried before to make it run, MrJigsaw
[21:00] <mattelacchiato> ?
[21:00] <arcticpenguin380> why does adept crash when trying to find the fastest mirror
[21:01] <MrJigsaw> Just tried alot of names and mount pointes at stuff.
[21:01] <mefisto__> nosrednaekim: yes I usually do, but sometimes updates overwrite the change and go back to the ugly non-kubuntu kde default
[21:02] <nosrednaekim> mefisto__➜ right <_<
[21:02] <mefisto__> nosrednaekim: actually I don't even use kmenu any more. :) tasty menu replaced it
[21:02] <MrJigsaw> mattelacchiato: can you tell me what i should write in 'Mount Point' and 'by label' to make it work? :/
[21:03] <unagi> can someone help me get ubuntu to display 1440 x 900
[21:03] <nosrednaekim> mefisto__➜ heh..... well, that works
[21:03] <mattelacchiato> MrJigsaw: Mountpoint is the dir, where the diskentries should appear. "by label" is the name of the disk-label
[21:03] <sub[t]rnl> MrJigsaw➜ you understand that Mount Point is a destination right?  as in, the actual (real) directory where the device should be mounted at
[21:04] <MrJigsaw> Where can i get the name of disk label ?
[21:04] <MrJigsaw> Yes sub[t]rnl i get that..
[21:04] <mattelacchiato> MrJigsaw: "vol_id <device-file>"
[21:05] <MrJigsaw> More specifik please.. im new to linux :)
[21:05] <mattelacchiato> MrJigsaw: You know, that all your devices can be found in /dev?
[21:05] <mattelacchiato> hmkay
[21:05] <mefisto__> unagi: I had a screen res problem, for about a week I tried to get 1280x1024 to stick. the solution for me was to add >> Option "PreferredMode"  "1280x1024" << in the monitor section of xorg.conf
[21:06] <mattelacchiato> so just open a terminal and run "sudo fdisk -l"
[21:06] <MrJigsaw> done
[21:06] <mattelacchiato> there you see all your partitions
[21:06] <MrJigsaw> yes
[21:06] <mattelacchiato> can you figure out, which one of them is your disk you want to mount?
[21:07] <MrJigsaw> ye i think so..
[21:07] <MrJigsaw> ive been givin in mount point /media/sdc and theres one with that :)
[21:07] <MrJigsaw> well /dev/sdc it is ;/
[21:08] <mattelacchiato>  /dev/sdc is the filename of the whole disk. but you need the filename of the partition
[21:08] <mattelacchiato> e.g. /dev/sdc1
[21:09] <mattelacchiato> you can see the filenames in the output from "sudo fdisk -l"
[21:09] <MrJigsaw> Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[21:09] <MrJigsaw> /dev/sdb1   *           1       60801   488384001    7
[21:09] <MrJigsaw>  HPFS/NTFS -
[21:09] <MrJigsaw>  Disk /dev/sdc: 500.1 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>16 bytes
[21:09] <MrJigsaw> uhm.. i think thats it ?
[21:10] <sub[t]rnl> it gets even easier if you just use system settings -> advanced -> disk & filesystem.  It will have a graphical representation of 	sudo fdisk -l	 with point and click options..
[21:10] <mattelacchiato> that's the whole disk
[21:11] <mattelacchiato> ah, okay. i'm not so well schooled in the graphical configuration... :-)
[21:11] <sub[t]rnl> cli is all i use, but its nice to recommend the gui for the newer guys, specially when its so nicely laid out. :D
[21:11] <mefisto__> sub[t]rnl: but that particular dialog doesn't always work predictably
[21:12] <MrJigsaw-> damn.. i think my client at kubuntu froze
[21:12] <mattelacchiato> goodbye...
[21:12] <ciprian> hy
[21:12] <MrJigsaw-> mattelacchiato, so did you say anything while i was gone ?
[21:12] <MrJigsaw-> Damn :|
[21:12] <MrJigsaw-> Stupid harddisk and mounting :(((((
[21:13] <ciprian> could someone help me with a problem regarding compiling gammu with kmobiletools?
[21:13] <sub[t]rnl> ciprian➜ ask away
[21:13] <MrJigsaw-> sub[t]rnl,  do you have any solution ? :/
[21:13] <mefisto__> MrJigsaw-: yeah, mounting could be more automated and easier
[21:13] <stratman4300> mrjigsaw: what is the type of filesystem on the hard drive your trying to mount???
[21:14] <sov3d> hi!
[21:15] <MrJigsaw-> stratman4300,  its ntfs
[21:15]  * Cap is away: Gone away for now.
[21:16] <|MrJigsaw|> mefisto__: how to then ?
[21:16] <sub[t]rnl> read up on fstab
[21:16] <|MrJigsaw|> Ive been trying for hours in System Settings -> Advanced -> Disks And Filesystems  :|
[21:16] <ciprian> i get the following error message: http://www.kmobiletools.org/uieforum?c=showthread&ThreadID=32
[21:16] <stratman4300> Mrjigsaw in the command line try sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/(your hard drive and partition here) /(path to the place you want to mount it to)
[21:17] <|MrJigsaw|> How do i find partitation name i guess? :S
[21:18] <stratman4300> is it /dev/sdb1??
[21:18] <|MrJigsaw|> Yes
[21:18] <|MrJigsaw|> device @ disks and filesystem right ?
[21:18] <stratman4300> let's say you want to mount it to /home/mrjigsaw/newHD....   you would run this command  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /home/mrjigsaw/newHD
[21:19] <stratman4300> mrjigsaw: you would run that in konsole
[21:19] <|MrJigsaw|> i get that..
[21:19] <|MrJigsaw|> fuse: failed to access mountpoint /home/mrjigsaw/newHD: No such file or directory <-
[21:20] <sub[t]rnl> ciprian➜ you see the error message right, where its looking for 'data'?
[21:20] <mefisto__> |MrJigsaw|: you have to create the directory you are mounting to first, if it doesn't exist
[21:20] <stratman4300> mrjigsaw: ohh   you have to make that folder first..    mkdir /home/mrjigsaw/newHD
[21:20] <|MrJigsaw|> Seems like it went trough
[21:20] <ciprian> yes
[21:20] <stratman4300> now navigate to that folder and see if your files are there
[21:21] <sub[t]rnl> ciprian➜ Replace "data()" with "latin1()" in that line.
[21:21] <|MrJigsaw|> Yeeeees!! stratman4300 youre my hero <3
[21:21] <|MrJigsaw|> Let me send you a virtual beer ;P
[21:21] <stratman4300> LOL....  cheers then....
[21:21] <stratman4300> glad it worked
[21:21] <nosrednaekim> !helpersnack | stratman4300
[21:21] <ubotu> stratman4300: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[21:21] <mefisto__> |MrJigsaw|: normally you would mount disks in /media eg, /media/windows or /media/sdb1 or whatever you want it to be
[21:21] <nosrednaekim> s/cookie/beer
[21:21] <|MrJigsaw|> Yes..
[21:21] <|MrJigsaw|> mefisto__: i think im going to now :>
[21:21] <ciprian> i`ll try right now
[21:22] <sub[t]rnl> ciprian➜ okies
[21:22] <stratman4300> mrjigsaw: yup i was just using that folder as an example but you can mount them anywhere you like with that command
[21:22] <mefisto__> |MrJigsaw|: mounting that way is not permanent. next reboot, you would need to do the mount command again
[21:22] <|MrJigsaw|> I think actually ill leave it for now.. dont wanna fuck it more up rigt now :P
[21:22] <|MrJigsaw|> hmm..
[21:22] <|MrJigsaw|> mefisto__: how do i make it permanent then? :/
[21:22] <blizzzek> gn8
[21:22] <stratman4300> mrjigsaw: the command to unmount is sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[21:23] <stevarino> hi all, i just installed kubuntu (switching from plain ubuntu) and am wondering if there is a starter guide available? also it seems there are no repositories stored in my system :\
[21:23] <mefisto__> |MrJigsaw|: you need to add a line in /etc/fstab file
[21:23] <mefisto__> mine has this: /dev/sdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_AU.UTF-8 0 0
[21:24] <|MrJigsaw|> damn..
 <mountpoint> <filesystemtype> <options>
[21:24] <|MrJigsaw|> How can i see if my other harddrives is mounted ?
[21:24] <sub[t]rnl> df -h, or mount
[21:24] <stratman4300> mrjigsaw: run this command to open that file in a text editer kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[21:24] <sub[t]rnl> kdesu? is he on feisty or earlier?
[21:25] <|MrJigsaw|> Gnutsy i believe its called
[21:25] <|MrJigsaw|> or just 7.10 ?
[21:25] <stratman4300> ehh...  don't know....  it's what i've always used  :|  is there a newer way???
[21:25] <sub[t]rnl> gnutsy, lol, good name
[21:25] <sub[t]rnl> !kdesu
[21:25] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[21:25] <stratman4300> lol
[21:25] <nosrednaekim> sub[t]rnl➜ kdesu is now symlinked to kdesudo
[21:25] <mefisto__> sub[t]rnl: kdesu links to kdesudo, so kdesu will work anyway
[21:26] <sub[t]rnl> nosrednaekim➜ ahh, nice
[21:26] <|MrJigsaw|> uhm
[21:26] <|MrJigsaw|> dosent work for me
[21:26] <sub[t]rnl> hehe
[21:27] <|MrJigsaw|> kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0
[21:27] <stratman4300> try kdesudo kate /etc/fstab then
[21:27] <|MrJigsaw|> Xlib: No protocol specified - kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[21:27] <nosrednaekim> works for me.....
[21:27] <sub[t]rnl> what was his mount point?
[21:27] <sub[t]rnl> and device name?
[21:27] <|MrJigsaw|> Im getting the same error
[21:28] <stratman4300> sub[t]rnl: his device was /dev/sd1
[21:28] <stratman4300> sub[t]rnl: his device was /dev/sdb1
[21:28] <|MrJigsaw|> Mount Point i think was /mrjigsaw/home/newHD/ :|
[21:28] <mefisto__> |MrJigsaw|: I recommend making the mountpoint in /media
[21:28] <stratman4300> mrjigsaw: is that where you want to permanetly mount it??
[21:29] <stratman4300> mefisto__: agreed
[21:29] <sub[t]rnl> |MrJigsaw|➜ do this 	echo "/dev/sdb1 /mrjigsaw/home/newHD ntfs-3g defaults 0 0" |sudo tee -a /etc/fstab
[21:29] <nosrednaekim> sub[t]rnl➜ sudo
[21:29] <|MrJigsaw|> stratman4300:  nope
[21:29] <ciprian> sub[t]rnl, sorry to bothering again, but now i got this: " const class QString' has no member named 'latin' "
[21:29] <nosrednaekim> sub[t]rnl➜ oh... wait...
[21:29] <|MrJigsaw|> i would like to lay it in media with my other drives..
[21:29] <sub[t]rnl> nosrednaekim➜ hehe :>
[21:30] <ubuntu_> hi
[21:30] <sub[t]rnl> ciprian➜ not sure then, sorry
[21:30] <ubuntu_> ;fsdlgkf
[21:30] <ciprian> should i install some missing library or what?
[21:30] <ciprian> ok, thanks anyway
[21:30] <sub[t]rnl> ciprian➜ libraries are good, thats what ./configure checks
[21:30] <nosrednaekim> sub[t]rnl➜ meh >:(
[21:30] <|MrJigsaw|> What do i need to write in konsole to open a folder ?
[21:31] <ciprian> ok...thanks
[21:31] <stratman4300> mrjigsaw: cd /foldername
[21:31] <|MrJigsaw|> i wont it to open at my desktop stratman4300 :D
[21:31] <gundam_rx78nt1> how can I get lm-sensors display the temperature on my  superkaramba monitor in degrees Fahrenhiet?
[21:32] <stratman4300> mrjigsaw: you can also navigate to /home/mrjigsaw/newHD by pressing alt+f2 the typing /home/mrjigsaw/newHD
[21:32] <mefisto__> |MrJigsaw|: cd ~/Desktop
[21:32] <|MrJigsaw|> stratman4300: can i PM ? im getting really confused by all the difrent answers :]
[21:33] <mefisto__> |MrJigsaw|: sorry
[21:33] <stratman4300> mrjigsaw: i would but i've got to go soon.....  wish i could stay and help....  the others will get you up and running though ;)
[21:34] <|MrJigsaw|> all right..
[21:34] <stratman4300> sorry :|
[21:34] <cicero_123> hello room. how do i remount a drive that has an incorrect mount point?
[21:34] <Agent_bob> "bird atmospheric conditions" blew up my modem.
[21:34] <|MrJigsaw|> sudo unmount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /home/media/Storage_Area_II
[21:34] <Agent_bob> aka fowl weather
[21:34] <|MrJigsaw|> uhm damn
[21:34] <nosrednaekim> cicero_123➜ unmount it first
[21:35] <cicero_123> keen
[21:35] <cicero_123> thanx
[21:35] <|MrJigsaw|> how unmount the newHD i just made ?
[21:35] <gundam_rx78nt1> how can I get lm-sensors display the temperature on my  superkaramba monitor in degrees Fahrenhiet?
[21:35] <stratman4300> mrjigsaw: sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[21:35] <|MrJigsaw|> how do i*
[21:35] <Agent_bob> |MrJigsaw| umount
[21:35] <mefisto__> |MrJigsaw|: sudo umount /mountpoint
[21:35] <Agent_bob> mountpoint or device
[21:36] <|MrJigsaw|> And then:  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/Storage_Area_II or? :D
[21:36] <cicero_123> for some reason it has a mountpoint that is <mountpoint> instead of being in the /etc/media file like the others
[21:36] <mefisto__> |MrJigsaw|: did you do that change to /etc/fstab ?
[21:36] <Agent_bob> !ntfs-3g | |MrJigsaw|
[21:36] <ubotu> |MrJigsaw|: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[21:36] <|MrJigsaw|> nope mefisto__, i cant really make it work
[21:37] <nosrednaekim> cicero_123➜ noting is ever mounted to /etc.... at least it shouldn't be
[21:37] <|MrJigsaw|> well mefisto__ i would like to mount my devices to media first
[21:37] <cicero_123> |MrJigsaw|: yeah. i was very tired and it was my first time at linux. i think i really goofed.
[21:38] <mefisto__>  echo "/dev/sdb1 /mrjigsaw/home/newHD ntfs-3g defaults 0 0" |sudo tee -a /etc/fstab
[21:38] <mefisto__> |MrJigsaw|: that will add the line to fstab
[21:38] <cicero_123> linux acts like my cd rom is a hd and the hd that i store all my files shows as an icon but cant be found
[21:38] <mefisto__> |MrJigsaw|: then you can just "sudo mount -a" and it should mount whatever you have in fstab
[21:39] <cicero_123> |MrJigsaw|:  i will try the sudo mout -a.
[21:39] <|MrJigsaw|> i just did that
[21:40] <|MrJigsaw|> But how can i check if i mounted the drives as i should ?
[21:40] <Agent_bob> mount
[21:40] <cicero_123> is confused.
[21:41] <Agent_bob> mount <<< will list what's mounted where and how
[21:41]  * cicero_123 goes to the corner... and has some coffee...
[21:41] <nosrednaekim> cicero_123➜ |MrJigsaw| is not trying to help you.... he has his own problem which is similar to yours
[21:41] <nosrednaekim> cicero_123➜ but we are trying to help both of you, which can get confusing :)
[21:42] <mefisto__> and probably too many voices trying to help is confusing to :P
[21:42] <cicero_123> sorry. sometimes when i wake up, i dont quite overcome the pain, and dont focus very well. (chronic pain from a car wreck--but i am moblie and my brain works a lot of the time... :)
[21:42] <sub[t]rnl> though quite entertaining...
[21:42]  * sub[t]rnl sips coffee
[21:43] <mefisto__> his pain entertains you?
[21:43] <Agent_bob> pain != frustration
[21:43] <sub[t]rnl> heh
[21:43] <|MrJigsaw|> hmm..
[21:43] <|MrJigsaw|> i just hope theyre all mounted now ;|
[21:43] <sub[t]rnl> Agent_bob➜ remember when I was trying to capture $5 through $9 and we put together the $@ | cut?
[21:44] <sub[t]rnl> Agent_bob➜ i forgot all about 	shift	.. shift 4
[21:44] <Agent_bob> sub[t]rnl don't tell me i did that.     shift 4 ;blah="$*"
[21:44] <sub[t]rnl> bam
[21:45] <MrJigsaw> uhm one more question. i need to put acpi=off and noapic in grub boot manager thingy, how do i do it ?
[21:45] <Agent_bob> but like i said yestergo the cleanest is still probably an array   seeing that you lose nothing that way
[21:45] <sub[t]rnl> in your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:45] <MrJigsaw> my kubuntu wont boot up if i dont have those in it....
[21:45] <sub[t]rnl> Agent_bob➜ aye
[21:45] <MrJigsaw> sub[t]rnl:  i get that.. but where in it.. :/ ?
[21:46] <sub[t]rnl> in your kernel boot line
[21:46] <sub[t]rnl> do 	grep ^kernel /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:46] <sub[t]rnl> so you know what the line looks like
[21:46] <Agent_bob> sub[t]rnl and i did think of shift yestergo,  but "bird atmoshperic conditions" shot my  modem.   down until just a little while ago
[21:47] <sub[t]rnl> Agent_bob➜ ugh
[21:47] <MrJigsaw> sub[t]rnl: should i do the same as when i boot normally. seperate them with '--' ?
[21:47] <mefisto__> if you also put it in the line: # defoptions=    it will keep that setting when upgrades happen too
[21:48] <gundam_rx78nt1> !pastebin
[21:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[21:48]  * Arwen is listening to Captain Planet Opening Theme by Phil Collins on Captain Planet [Amarok]
[21:48]  * nosrednaekim is listening to You're Pitiful by "Weird Al" Yankovic on Poodle Hat [Amarok]
[21:48]  * sub[t]rnl face palms
[21:48] <MrJigsaw> it says i aint got the right to edit in menu.lst
[21:49] <Agent_bob> root does
[21:49] <nosrednaekim> MrJigsaw➜ kdesudo
[21:49] <mefisto__> MrJigsaw: sudo at the start of the command
[21:49] <MrJigsaw> How do i make kate root? :D
[21:49] <MrJigsaw> Im logged in as root mefisto__
[21:49] <Agent_bob> kdesu kate
[21:49] <nosrednaekim> answered before you asked... beat that everyone ^_^
[21:49] <Agent_bob> you are logged in as root ?      don't
[21:50] <sub[t]rnl> +1 nosrednaekim
[21:50] <MrJigsaw> Yes i am..
[21:50] <MrJigsaw> + i cant use kdesu kate
[21:50] <MrJigsaw> it gives me errors
[21:50] <mefisto__> are you sure you're logged in as root?
[21:50] <MrJigsaw> 100%
[21:50] <gundam_rx78nt1> I got an nvidia 7600 graphics card installed.  I installed the restricted drivers but my card on the glx screen savers starts to become choppy.
[21:50] <MrJigsaw> in konsole i am
[21:50] <gundam_rx78nt1> I ran glxgears and here is my output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55795/
[21:50] <nosrednaekim> MrJigsaw➜ well, log out, you can't run graphical apps from a root konsole
[21:50] <MrJigsaw> su root
[21:50] <gundam_rx78nt1> can someone help?>
[21:50] <MrJigsaw> how do i log out ?
[21:50] <Agent_bob> that's not logged in.
[21:51] <sub[t]rnl> exit
[21:51] <BluesKaj> this may be off topic but it soon won't be . I hope Linux is ready for these new drives http://www.techspot.com/news/28984-Panasonic-announces-ship-date-for-32GB-SDHC-card.html
[21:51] <Agent_bob> that's a root shell in a terminal.     != login
[21:51] <nosrednaekim> gundam_rx78nt1➜ glxinfo would be a bit more useful...
[21:51] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj➜ why wouldn't it be?
[21:51] <MrJigsaw> Okay Agent_bob...
[21:52] <MrJigsaw> it still wont let me edit in menu.lst ;S
[21:53] <Agent_bob> MrJigsaw also you should never use plain su    use   su -     because it makes it the equievelant of a root login shell   i.e. full root environment.       sudo -i   is the same as  sudo su -
[21:53] <flipstar> hi all, how can i clone my root partition? is 'cp -r -p' enough ?
[21:53] <gundam_rx78nt1> nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55796/ here is the output of glxinfo.
[21:54] <Agent_bob> flipstar not unless they have fixed some bugs in cp   cp -a --one-file-system
[21:55] <nosrednaekim> gundam_rx78nt1➜ thaks
[21:55] <Agent_bob> flipstar i like tar better though.
[21:56] <flipstar> Agent_bob: so 'cp -a --one-file-system' is the right option for that ?
[21:56] <Agent_bob> flipstar yeah.  also if it's a bite for bite clone.   dd if=/dev/hda1 of=location_of_clone
[21:56] <flipstar> theres no need for tar since it goes directly from on disc to antother :)
[21:57] <gundam_rx78nt1> is that big update push that was released last night break anything?  I want to know before I accept the changes...
[21:57] <flipstar> great thx Agent_bob
[21:57] <Agent_bob> flipstar np
[21:57] <nosrednaekim> gundam_rx78nt1➜ that looks good...
[21:58]  * cicero_123 meanders back  into the fray after some coffee... i guess using dolphin in root to tinker around isnt a good thing... my cd rom wont respond and hdc1 has a mountpoint called <mountpoint> that doesnt exist on the disk and the fs type is set to auto, but cant mount. how do i undo the damage?
[21:58] <Agent_bob> flipstar note that hda1 is example only.   can be whole disk if they are the same size  or partition or what ever.
[21:58] <sourcemaker> I have removed vmware-player and now installed vmware-server... Module vmnet is not loaded.  Please verify that it is loaded beforerunning this script.
[21:59] <sourcemaker> what's wrong?
[21:59] <gundam_rx78nt1> noserednaekim: so what should I do?  Remove the drivers and install them manually after I remove all config files?
[21:59] <nosrednaekim> cicero_123➜ change that <mountoint> to /media/hdc1
[21:59] <flipstar> yes i know that, thanks anyway Agent_bob .. btw it also copies permissions and sow ?
[21:59] <nosrednaekim> gundam_rx78nt1➜ no... that won;t do any good, thats as good of results you are going to be getting.
[21:59] <cicero_123> nosrednaekim: k. what is the command?
[21:59] <gundam_rx78nt1> sourcemaker: the problem is with one of the files for the vmnet module.
[22:00] <gundam_rx78nt1> I found the fix for it on the vmware website.
[22:00] <Agent_bob> flipstar dd is bite for bite.    cp -a is copy and preserve links and owner/perms
[22:00] <Agent_bob> flipstar tar will preserve links and perms too
[22:00] <mefisto__> cicero_123: kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[22:00] <nosrednaekim> cicero_123➜ uhh where is it saying the <mountpoint> stuff?
[22:01] <cicero_123> in kinfo
[22:01] <nosrednaekim> mefisto__➜ please... i'm handling him....no need giving confusing commands...
[22:01] <gundam_rx78nt1> nosrednaekim: I had it working smoothly up until I updated some stuff.
[22:01] <||arifaX> anytime I use aticonfig --swap-monitor on my big desktop I get an exception error. is this a known problem?
[22:01] <nosrednaekim> cicero_123➜ go to systemsettings->advanced->disks and partioning and change it there
[22:01] <Agent_bob> what dd does that cp and tar dont do is copy free space and system inodes
[22:01] <Agent_bob> @ flipstar
[22:02] <flipstar> hm no need for that..i'll use cp -a then :)
[22:02] <Agent_bob> system inodes = superblocks file allocation tables mbr's etc...
[22:03] <Agent_bob> flipstar yeah cp -a --one-file-system /source /destination
[22:03] <flipstar> guess it will also work when i chroot and update grub ..
[22:03] <gundam_rx78nt1> be back later on.  Got to take care of the pooch.
[22:03] <manuel__> could somebody help me please, i get my laptop frozen randomly on kde
[22:04] <manuel__> when i open my laptop, it shows a message saying "laptop lid is closed nothing to do"
[22:04] <blekos> hello,i mad a back with tar, and when i tried to restore from tar  after it made a few extractions I got a message something like "extract denied"
[22:04] <Agent_bob> flipstar if you plan on booting the new location you'll have to update the boot loader and the fstab
[22:05] <manuel__> have someone had a simular problem???
[22:06] <flipstar> yes .. know that .. thx Agent_bob
[22:06] <nosrednaekim> blekos➜ did you tar it with sudo?
[22:06] <Agent_bob> manuel__ lid switch issues.   yes manuel__.  but i don't have a fix for you.
[22:12] <MrJigsaw> How come when i try to delete files, it just opens progress dialog and stays at 0%
[22:12] <vscott> Can anyone help me with setting up my proftpd
[22:13] <vscott> I am getting rejected by my other server
[22:13] <blekos> yes
[22:13] <nosrednaekim> MrJigsaw➜ how big are the files?
[22:14] <blekos> i had done sudo su
[22:14] <nosrednaekim> blekos➜ then untar with sudo
[22:14] <blekos> but when i copy it back to my system i had sudo su again
[22:14] <vscott> Can someone help with proftpd
[22:17] <cicero_123>  woohoo! it worked
[22:17] <Arwen> is it normal for KNetworkManager to say "no connection"?
[22:18] <nosrednaekim> Arwen➜anything can happen to knetworkmanager;)
[22:18] <Arwen> heh
[22:18] <Arwen> can I turn it off? seems like a waste if I only use Ethernet
[22:19] <cicero_123> nosrednaekim: thanx. :) i appreciate the help.
[22:19] <nosrednaekim> cicero_123➜ glad that worked
[22:19] <nosrednaekim> Arwen➜ sure, right click, quit, and tell it not to start again
[22:19] <Arwen> ok
[22:19] <cicero_123> nosrednaekim: now all i have to do is figure out how to restore the cd-rom.
[22:20] <Arwen> and that speaker icon for kmix is really ugly :-)
[22:22] <Radly> Barack Obama voted FOR the Patriot Act, more funding for America's aggression in Iraq, and every increased spending measure he could get his lying articulate hands on. Hmmm lets add some more contradictions and exposed lies...... In the NH debate, he called for going into Pakistan. In many speaches he has advocated going into Africa for peacekeeping. (Sounds like that would be worse than Vietnam!)
[22:22] <Radly> Oh yeah!!! THAT WILL REALLY HEAL AMERICA. Keep on believing it Obamatards. You all will be sorry, as Barack Hussein Obama is no better than Clinton or Edwards.
[22:24] <hola> sameones know how to convert dvd5 in divx
[22:24] <nosrednaekim> !ops
[22:24] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild or jussi01!
[22:24] <nosrednaekim> !transcode | hola
[22:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about transcode - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:24] <Arwen> Obama? bah, it's all about Ron Paul. That aside, transcode isn't the greatest tool.
[22:25] <hola> nosrednaekim: ?
[22:25] <nosrednaekim> yeah... thought there was a little bot-bite about that
[22:25] <Arwen> hola, to DivX? You want DivX Linux Edition (somewhere on divx.com)
[22:25] <Arwen> you probably need to decode to uncompressed video using ffmpeg or something first
[22:25] <vscott> Anyone know how to fix socket operation fatel errors
[22:26] <hola> Arwen: yes, i would like to onvert dvd into divx
[22:26] <Arwen> you need http://labs.divx.com/DivXLinuxCodec
[22:26] <Arwen> instructions should be on the page
[22:27] <Ryu010> hello?
[22:28] <nosrednaekim> hey Ryu010
[22:28] <Arwen> !hello
[22:28] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[22:29] <Ryu010> hows it going in here?
[22:29] <mefisto__> Arwen: what do you not like about transcode? what do you use instead? mencoder?
[22:30] <nosrednaekim> Ryu010➜ good :)
[22:30] <Arwen> mefisto__, I use Windows for encoding because AviSynth only runs there. I dislike transcode because it's really just ffmpeg repackaged.
[22:31] <mefisto__> Arwen: so what's wrong with ffmpeg?
[22:31] <hola> Arwen: thk. is it only a codec or it it a program
[22:31] <Arwen> it's not AviSytnh
[22:31] <Arwen> hola, it's both
[22:31] <Arwen> mefisto__, very limited filtering
[22:32] <mefisto__> Arwen: you mean as in using filters when encoding?
[22:32] <Arwen> yes, like deinterlacing, overlays, splices, resizing, etc
[22:32] <Arwen> and it doesn't have AviSynth's scripting syntax
[22:33] <mefisto__> Arwen: sounds like you're quite used to avisynth
[22:33] <Arwen> it's the only video editor I'd ever consider using
[22:33] <mefisto__> lol
[22:35]  * mefisto__ is transcode-ing right now
[22:36] <Arwen> I also don't like transcode because it depends on GTK 1.2 for some reason
[22:36] <blekos> the message i get from tar is tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[22:38] <twosouls82> how do I preserve file permissions for files from /etc/skel?
[22:39] <arcticpenguin380> did i make a mistake switching to JFS
[22:39] <crimsun> twosouls82: how are you transferring them?  Permissions should be preserved.  Do you have a non-standard umask?
[22:39] <hola> Arwen: sorry...have you tried it?
[22:40] <Arwen> hola, nope. I just know that's the only DivX encoder on Linux.
[22:40] <hola> Arwen: i sked you that becouse i jasted installed it but i dont knoew how to lunch the programm
[22:40] <twosouls82> crimsun: I made the files in there more secure and added some more defaults for our foundation, the /etc/skel has been copied by using systemsettings
[22:41] <Arwen> try typing "divx --help" into a console
[22:41] <twosouls82> and I haven't changed the umask
[22:41] <hola> Arwen: i tried but it does not exist
[22:41] <Arwen> one sec
[22:42] <crimsun> twosouls82: I don't know systemsettings well (or very much at all); check its implementation.
[22:45] <twosouls82> even when I use "sudo useradd --create-home <username>" the file ownerships of the files from /etc/skel are not preserved
[22:46] <Arwen> hola, oh, I see. You have to write the encoder yourself >_>
[22:46] <twosouls82> seems logical to me btw
[22:46] <Arwen> lame, ah well...
[22:46] <twosouls82> but there must be a way to preserve it for specific files
[22:47] <nosrednaekim> twosouls82➜ if they were preserved, then you'd never own anything in your home DIR
[22:47] <nosrednaekim> since root is who copies them.
[22:47] <Arwen> hola, probably this is beyond your skill (it's beyond mine at least). Maybe I could interest you in XviD instead?
[22:48] <twosouls82> nosrednaekim: that's why I said "seems logical to me btw" =)
[22:48] <hola> Arwen: which are the differences
[22:48] <twosouls82> nosrednaekim: do you know how to preserve it for specific files?
[22:49] <nosrednaekim> twosouls82➜ nooo..... thats just slightly to hard-core for me :)
[22:49] <Arwen> hola, not much. XviD is a bit higher quality.
[22:49] <twosouls82> for me to, for now :)
[22:49] <twosouls82> too*
[22:51] <copacetic> twosouls82, write a script...?
[22:53] <yereth> wow KDE4 sucks
[22:53] <giovanni_home> what's kde4 like?
[22:54] <yereth> it's like.. nothing else really.. the desktop is bloated
[22:54] <yereth> less control than gnome even
[22:54] <hola> Arwen: ok....tell me so
[22:54] <yereth> kwin is much worse than compiz
[22:54] <ChaosMachine> is there any 4.0.1 live cds yet?
[22:54] <giovanni_home> what are desktop effects like?
[22:54] <yereth> the menu is just plain annoying
[22:54] <twosouls82> copacetic: I was thinking of that, and I am investigating where to refer to (execute) it.. in such a way that useradd and other applications that add users user it too
[22:55] <yereth> giovanni_home: desktop effects are so-so.. compiz for kde3 is much better
[22:55] <yereth> ChaosMachine: dunno.. but you can install kde4 alongside
[22:56] <giovanni_home> mah... it's a work in progress... I'll wait the next kubuntu version
[22:56] <giovanni_home> I'm comfortable with kde 3 right now
[22:56] <yereth> giovanni_home: it's work in progress yes, but since when is a full release rather some kind of a release candidate alpha alpha?
[22:56] <cicero_123> rehello room. :) where is the dvd-cd burner supposed to be mounted?
[22:57] <yereth> it's like: let's call it the final release.. maybe people will try it!
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ yes,you can change the menu
[22:57] <cellofellow> hi. I hope I'm not unwelcome as an Ubuntu user with a non-GNOME-specific problem.
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> cicero_123➜ well, burners are not mounted
[22:57] <giovanni_home> yereth: they chose to release a final version so as to have more (beta)-tester
[22:57] <Arwen> hola, apt-get install mencoder + this guide (http://f0rked.com/projects/simplerip). It's crude, but about as good as you'll get.
[22:57] <yereth> nosrednaekim: well, I tried to change a bunch of stuff, but I got a black screen
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> cellofellow➜ depends on the problem
[22:58] <cicero_123> nosrednaekim: how do i active it?
[22:58] <yereth> giovanni_home: I know, but really, on the website they pretended it was amazing.. not even close
[22:58] <giovanni_home> but you are not forced to use it :) yereth
[22:58] <yereth> I know, I'm just worried for the future of KDE
[22:58] <oloughlin75> I am trying to get myswl working and am getting this error: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[22:58] <yereth> getting another gnome, but worse
[22:58] <cellofellow> nosrednaekim: I have some MP3 files that I've ripped and now I cannot tag them so my MP3 player can read the tags. It's rather picky about them for some reason. I've tried EasyTag and id3tag. None work. What's a better way?
[22:59] <cellofellow> It'd be nice if the tagger supports images.
[22:59] <giovanni_home> don't worry... it's gonna be better
[22:59] <nosrednaekim> cellofellow➜ no idea...
[22:59] <yereth> hope so
[22:59] <yereth> first, let the digikam fix the rotation of images in the viewer :P
[22:59] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ underneath, it is an amazing improvement
[22:59] <yereth> digikam team*
[22:59] <cellofellow> This players' one of those designed for Windows Media Player, so I blame M$ for my problems.
[23:00] <giovanni_home> however we should admin than windows vista is ahead as far as desktop effects are concerned
[23:00] <yereth> nosrednaekim: I'm sure.. what was the gui thing called again? something like QT
[23:00] <giovanni_home> we should admit, sorry
[23:00] <yereth> giovanni_home: ow come on, Vista is bloated and ugly
[23:00] <giovanni_home> ahah :)
[23:00]  * cellofellow agrees
[23:00] <yereth> OSX rules all
[23:00] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ yeah, they switched to qt4 form qt3
[23:00] <yereth> right
[23:00] <hola> Arwen: thaks ciao
[23:00] <yereth> that was it
[23:00]  * Arwen thinks desktop effects are silly
[23:00]  * cicero_123 pipes up--> bloated, ugly, and slowwwwww
[23:01] <yereth> Arwen: Apple invented *useful* desktop effects
[23:01] <giovanni_home> but they have desktop effects since a year ago... we have kde4 now, in beta state
[23:01] <yereth> such as getting an all window overview
[23:01] <Arwen> yereth, no such thing
[23:01] <dan> hi ;)
[23:01] <giovanni_home> OSX is not the right choice... it depends to closely on microsoftoz
[23:01] <Arwen> anything they've done with shiny 3d accel could be done in 2d too
[23:01] <dan> Need help with service menu menu
[23:01] <yereth> Arwen: get back to your console.. hit ctrl-alt-f1 I dare you and do everything from there :P
[23:02] <Arwen> I am... lol
[23:02] <Arwen> irssi in a screen
[23:02] <yereth> Arwen: I use irssi in a screen as well
[23:02] <yereth> Arwen: but also desktop apps
[23:02] <Arwen> no, but really, 3d acceleration is a bad idea at this point seeing as many chips (ATI!) are very unstable with 3d
[23:02] <miladen> Ey guys, how do i run a .deb file on my desktop?
[23:03] <Arwen> miladen, dpkg -i blah.deb
[23:03] <nosrednaekim> miladen➜ right click and tell it to install with gdebi
[23:03] <yereth> Arwen: you mean drivers suck?
[23:03] <Arwen> yeah
[23:03] <giovanni_home> miladen: deb file are meant to be installed, not executed
[23:03] <Arwen> a lot
[23:03] <yereth> Arwen: buy nvidia :)
[23:03] <Arwen> zzz, still proprietary
[23:03] <Arwen> and Intel = no games at all
[23:03] <yereth> but much better
[23:03] <copacetic> I make 3D graphics in a shell.
[23:03] <Arwen> :-P, nothing like directfb
[23:03] <yereth> join #freaks
[23:04] <giovanni_home> what's that shit of directfb copacetic
[23:04] <copacetic> No, I make it in Vi.
[23:05] <copacetic> I make movies in emacs though.
[23:05] <giovanni_home> I cook with emacs
[23:05] <yereth> lol
[23:05] <yereth> I cook emacs
[23:05] <giovanni_home> and watch porno movies
[23:05] <copacetic> emacs is very versatile.
[23:05] <yereth> but no one wants to eat it
[23:05] <miladen> is there an easy command telling it to install all needed packages or do i have to list them myself?
[23:06] <yereth> emacs > notepad
[23:06] <yereth> ;)
[23:06] <copacetic> sudo apt-get install *
[23:06] <yereth> lol
[23:06] <yereth> don't do that, miladen
[23:06] <dan> System menu menu, not service menu menu ;)
[23:06] <hydrogen> mm
[23:06] <giovanni_home> I'm not using emacs recently... I've switched to kate... and I use vi in console because is the fastest editor
[23:06] <copacetic> mary-kate?
[23:06] <yereth> kate is sexy
[23:06] <miladen> yereth what then?
[23:06] <hydrogen> I think installing the "emacs" package is equivilent to apt-get install *
[23:07] <yereth> miladen: needed packages for what?
[23:07] <copacetic> Haha @ hydrogen
[23:07] <cicero_123> how do i get my dvd/cd burner-player to play cd's?
[23:07] <miladen> i wanna install an app that requires 6 other packages ex.
[23:07] <yereth> cicero_123: insert them first
[23:07] <miladen> how do i get it to install all of them?
[23:07] <miladen> stuff like sun-java.jre
[23:07] <stevarino> hi, how can i install the nvidia drivers? everytime i run nvidia-xconfig i get a module nvidia not found error. i have nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel
[23:07] <copacetic> cicero_123, Put in a CD and fireup xmms.
[23:07] <giovanni_home> stevarino: try envy
[23:07] <yereth> miladen: just do apt-get install <needed-package> and it auto installs the rest
[23:08] <miladen> no it doesnt yereth
[23:08] <yereth> miladen: ah.. you can use automatix2 for stuff like java.. google for automatix
[23:08] <cicero_123> yes. i have. when i first installed linux (about 4 days now) i was fiddling around in root with dolphin, (which i now know is not a good thing) and now it doesnt play.
[23:08] <hydrogen> err
[23:08] <hydrogen> using automatix
[23:08] <hydrogen> will eat your babies
[23:08] <yereth> lol
[23:08] <giovanni_home> miladen: do apt-cache search <what you want> , then install the packages you want with sudo apt-get install
[23:08] <hydrogen> and kill your herds of cattle
[23:08] <yereth> hydrogen: you have a better suggeston?
[23:08] <copacetic> cicero_123, What does it do?
[23:08] <hydrogen> and probably destroy your crops
[23:09] <hydrogen> install java..?
[23:09] <copacetic> Does it give an error message?
[23:09] <copacetic> Volume?
[23:09] <copacetic> What?
[23:09] <giovanni_home> moreover automatix rapes your sister
[23:09] <nareshov> o_o
[23:09] <stevarino> giovanni_home: thanks, i thought envy was abandoned and unsafe, but it looks like i was wrong :)
[23:09] <yereth> what's directfb anyway?
[23:09] <copacetic> direct frame buffer
[23:10] <yereth> anyone using it?
[23:10] <giovanni_home> yereth: it's a useless piece of software
[23:10] <yereth> giovanni_home: sounds good
[23:10] <giovanni_home> ahaha
[23:10] <copacetic> yereth, To be honest, I don't even think the developers use it.
[23:10] <cicero_123> copacetic: the kde daemon comes up and asks what i want to do. open window, copy cd, or do nothing. if i type open window i get a permission denied
[23:10] <yereth> copacetic: so it's just for the nurd's enjoyment, lacking social life..?
[23:11] <oloughlin75> hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000?
[23:11] <cicero_123> yeah. sometimes if i try to open it in dolphin
[23:11] <copacetic> cicero_123, Learn how to use a console and sudo then. :D
[23:11] <yereth> dolphin sucks
[23:11] <giovanni_home> dolphin is good
[23:11] <giovanni_home> simpler than konqueroz
[23:11] <copacetic> Walrus > Dolphin
[23:12] <yereth> whale > walrus
[23:12] <stevarino> giovanni_home: do i need to install something to use deb's? ark is throwing errors at me
[23:12] <copacetic> pwnt
[23:12] <cicero_123> i am learning. this is my 5th day with linux/kubunt
[23:12] <yereth> ;)
[23:12] <cicero_123> u
[23:12] <giovanni_home> konqueroz is getting bad... it doesn't open correctly a lot of websites
[23:12] <nareshov> stevarino: use "ar"
[23:12] <copacetic> stevarino, sudo dpkg -i blahblah.deb
[23:12] <giovanni_home> stevarino: to use what?
[23:12] <giovanni_home> :)
[23:12] <yereth> giovanni_home: ... dolphin is not a web browser..?
[23:13] <yereth> :)
[23:13] <cicero_123> i am learning what not to do. i need to re-enale the dvd/cd burner/player
[23:13] <yereth> does dolphin fish?
[23:13] <stevarino> giovanni_home: oh, i d/l the deb for envy, but ark is trying to open it by default and is failing wonderfully
[23:13] <copacetic> They fly-fish :D
[23:13] <Arwen> dolphin doesn't have a delete option in the context menu...
[23:13] <giovanni_home> I meant that konqueror isn't even good as browser anymore
[23:13] <Arwen> stevarino, NO ENVY
[23:13] <yereth> giovanni_home: even? it's still a great everything-browser
[23:13] <giovanni_home> stevarino: dpkg --force-all-and-more -i envy*deb
[23:13] <stevarino> Arwen: ? is there another method for nvidia?
[23:14] <Arwen> !nvidia
[23:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[23:14] <Arwen> yes, there is
[23:14] <Arwen> it's called "installing it"
[23:14] <nareshov> fish works on dolphin
[23:14] <yereth> you can just install nvidia-glx
[23:14] <yereth> nareshov: good
[23:14] <copacetic> nvidia is trash.
[23:14] <cicero_123> is there a cosole command that will undo the damage that i did in root with dolphin and remount--reënable or whatever it needs to do to work again?
[23:15] <yereth> ugh.. dolphin doesn't show a location-toolbar by default.. smells like gnome
[23:15] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ you can get it back :)
[23:15] <copacetic> cicero_123, Just hit the undo key on your keyboard.
[23:15] <cicero_123> :/
[23:15] <yereth> nosrednaekim: I know, I just don't like where it's heading
[23:16] <copacetic> cicero_123, This isn't paint or word processor. If you mess something up while using root you can't just undo it. :D
[23:16] <Arwen> it has no tree view...
[23:16] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ I understand, and I don'treally like dolphin either.
[23:16] <copacetic> You can fix it, but you can't undo it.
[23:16] <yereth> lol
[23:16] <nosrednaekim> Arwen➜ yeah, it does
[23:16] <yereth> "the process for fish://... protocol died unexpectedly
[23:16] <yereth> "
[23:16] <Arwen> where?
[23:16] <yereth> nosrednaekim: back to konqueror :P
[23:16] <Liono> http://pastebin.com/m25181e43      need help is setting a net cafe
[23:16] <stevarino> Arwen: heh thanks
[23:16] <stevarino> i remember envy leaving a bad taste in my mouth last time
[23:16] <stevarino> speaking of...
[23:17] <giovanni_home> yereth: dolphin is for people who like simple things
[23:17] <nareshov> ya
[23:17] <yereth> giovanni_home: install gnome then :P
[23:17] <giovanni_home> yereth: it's ugly for me
[23:17] <copacetic> Pfft, konqueror is for wimps.
[23:17] <copacetic> Real men use Lynx.
[23:17] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, where?
[23:17] <intelikey> copacetic elinks
[23:18] <yereth> copacetic: does lynx brows my filesystem?
[23:18] <copacetic> Yes.
[23:18] <yereth> browse*
[23:18] <giovanni_home> real men don't even use the computers, they surf the internet speaking on the phone like a modem
[23:18] <oloughlin75> im going to kill amarok if it currupts my wma's again
[23:18]  * hydrogen likes dolphin
[23:18] <Arwen> wma?
[23:18] <yereth> copacetic: real man cut wood and hunt deers.. so stfu :)
[23:18] <Arwen> why?
[23:18] <copacetic> Hahahahah @ giovanni_home
[23:18] <hydrogen> real men don't hang out in irc chat
[23:18] <giovanni_home> ahah
[23:18] <hydrogen> I think is what yereth is saying
[23:19] <copacetic> Real men know deers isn't a word >_>
[23:19] <oloughlin75> just because arwen
[23:19] <nareshov> :P
[23:19] <hydrogen> real men have penises
[23:19] <copacetic> pwnt
[23:19] <hydrogen> and with that, I'm going to get dinner
[23:19] <yereth> I'm dutch.. shoot me :)
[23:19] <cicero_123> copacetic: i know. that is why i am thinking of reinstalling kubuntu.
[23:20] <theunixgeek> How can I make a link to my home folder and other devices on my desktop without the little arrow thingy that represents links?
[23:20] <copacetic> You should know, you're a unix geek. :D
[23:20] <yereth> so a question for the 'pussies': where can I find cool widgets?
[23:20] <giovanni_home> hydrogen: you eat with your penis?
[23:21] <yereth> or directly from ....
[23:21] <yereth> nm
[23:21] <NickPresta> sigh. real men use a magnetized needle and a steady hand. http://xkcd.com/378/
[23:21] <cicero_123> copacetic: i really like kubuntu. it is a whole lot better than win2k and makes more sense than vista. but i was goofing around when i first installed it, and think i can fix the damage that i did in root. i just need to get the burner/player to be enabled and mounted or whatever its setting should be instead of <mountpoint> to nowhere.
[23:21] <theunixgeek> copacetic: I've been using GNOME a lot; I've only been really messing around with KDE recently and I'm liking it. I'm looking for some gconf-edit like thing that lets me put device icons on the desktop
[23:22] <copacetic> mount /media/cdrom
[23:22] <yereth> so where do I find cool screenlets?
[23:22] <giovanni_home> w berlusconi
[23:22] <NickPresta> yereth, from the screenlets website. They have a few goodies. kde-look.org may have some too
[23:22] <Arwen> is there a way to get kde to automount removabke storage media?
[23:23] <giovanni_home> Arwen: should be so out of the box
[23:23] <oloughlin75> theunixgeek: Right click on the open desktop -> configure desktop -> behavior -> device icons tab
[23:23] <yereth> NickPresta: cheers
[23:23] <cicero_123> keen. cdrom even if it is also a dvd and cd burner?
[23:23] <Arwen> giovanni_home, pops a stupid dialog actually
[23:24] <giovanni_home> yes... is that that boring? :) just choose mount
[23:24] <Arwen> not acceptable when using a fullscreen konsole
[23:24] <copacetic> oloughlin75, he already left :D
[23:24] <oloughlin75> wooo amarok didnt currupt the files! it only took it 5 mins to change track info on a cd
[23:24] <oloughlin75> lol
[23:25] <giovanni_home> oloughlin75: try s-vista
[23:25] <copacetic> I'm trying to decide what I like better, bitchx or irssi.
[23:25] <yereth> amarok rules
[23:25] <yereth> best music player ever
[23:25] <copacetic> I think irssi is taking the lead.
[23:25] <oloughlin75> s-vista?
[23:25] <Vermux> yeah1!
[23:25] <Vermux> and Im back
[23:25] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ queue a "amarok 2 sucks"  report ;)
[23:25] <giovanni_home> oloughlin75: vista
[23:26] <yereth> nosrednaekim: does it?
[23:26] <copacetic> yereth, I'm old school. I think xmms or audacious is the best.
[23:26] <giovanni_home> copacetic: noooooo
[23:26] <oloughlin75> giovanni_home: I still use it quite a bit :)
[23:26] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ its more like WMP
[23:26] <mefisto__> is there an amarok 2 in repos?
[23:26] <oloughlin75> uglier?
[23:26] <yereth> nosrednaekim: :( I'll stick with kde3
[23:26] <giovanni_home> xmms is gtk0.3
[23:26] <Vermux> yeah, and Im back with a big problem, but I will share it tomorrow
[23:27] <copacetic> True, but amarok is...blah
[23:27] <Vermux> so be ready
[23:27] <copacetic> It's too big and windows-like.
[23:27] <yereth> I remember there was this advanced theme manager for kde3
[23:27] <nosrednaekim> mefisto__➜ don't think so...
[23:27] <yereth> any idea what it's called?
[23:27] <giovanni_home> oloughlin75: I sometimes use vista... and often get BSOD
[23:27] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ theme manager?
[23:27] <intelikey> so DTV in the US is going to force thousands of people to buy new hardware or loose all telivision service.    bend ofer america.      again!
[23:27] <oloughlin75> iv never had a BSOD in it
[23:27] <yereth> nosrednaekim: I think not
[23:27] <oloughlin75> linux is mor eproblematic -- err easier to break
[23:27] <theunixgeek> Kubuntu and Ubuntu are, like, so far apart from each other....
[23:28] <copacetic> theunixgeek, Not really.
[23:28] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ I mean... whats a theme manager? besides the one in kcontrol/systemsetting?
[23:28] <oloughlin75> just the looks
[23:28] <giovanni_home> copacetic: try vlc
[23:28] <cicero_123> copacetic: keen. i now have a dvd icon on my desktop, but instead of playing when i double click it it opens in dolphin.
[23:28] <copacetic> vlc is ok for a movie player.
[23:28] <copacetic> Not so much for a music player.
[23:28] <Arwen> intelikey, you know what? upgrades happen, so...
[23:28] <theunixgeek> copacetic: well, Kubuntu couldn't really be renamed to Ubuntu KDE Edition because of all the different apps in them.
[23:28] <yereth> nosrednaekim: yes something different.. I'm kind of looking for a nicer desktop for kde3
[23:28] <giovanni_home> cicero_123: open vlc for that sort of things
[23:28] <cicero_123> k
[23:28] <giovanni_home> cicero_123: don't click on the icon
[23:28] <copacetic> cicero_123, right click -> open with
[23:28] <intelikey> Arwen do i get kissed too ?
[23:28] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ try out the Domino theme
[23:29] <oloughlin75> woah -- it looks like i cant use xmms for more than a playlist
[23:29] <nosrednaekim> yeah XMMS is pretty functionless
[23:29] <nosrednaekim> Exaile is nice (if gtk)
[23:29] <copacetic> How is it functionless?
[23:29] <nosrednaekim> just playlists..
[23:29] <hsn_> kubuntu has fix for local root exploit?
[23:29] <yereth> nosrednaekim: what's that?
[23:29] <copacetic> Just because it doesn't have album pictures, popups all over, and is low on resources?
[23:29] <cicero_123> my multimedia choices appear to be amarok, k3b, kaffeine, or kmix
[23:29] <copacetic> kmix?!
[23:30] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ a MAC os X looking theme
[23:30] <jlr4u> I lost my knetworkmanager and it does nothing when I try to open it. If you google "knetworkmanager does nothing" there are a lot of other folks with the same problem.
[23:30] <MrJigsaw> How can i edit in grub's menu.lst ?
[23:30] <nosrednaekim> copacetic➜ hey.. I didn't say it wasn't nice for its purposes, but it can NOT compare to amarok in features
[23:30] <yereth> nosrednaekim: sounds nice
[23:30] <oloughlin75> copacetic: use it to manage more than 100 songs  and youll see what i was saying
[23:30] <MrJigsaw> When i open it en kate it says access denied..
[23:30] <giovanni_home> copacetic: don't use xmms... we must abandon old gtk1.2 apps
[23:30] <MrJigsaw> open it ind*
[23:30] <copacetic> In "useless" features. :D
[23:30] <oloughlin75> MrJigsaw: sudo kate /file/
[23:31] <nosrednaekim> MrJigsaw➜ "kdesudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[23:31] <yereth> nosrednaekim: you have a link?
[23:31] <mefisto__> MrJigsaw: no, don't use sudo
[23:31] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75➜ please use kdesudo with graphical apps
[23:31] <copacetic> I've always had trouble getting radio stations to play in Amarok too.
[23:31] <copacetic> Which works fine in xmms.
[23:31] <oloughlin75> :/ still learning. Is there a specific reason?
[23:31] <MrJigsaw> What then mefisto__?
[23:31] <intelikey> Arwen "you know what? upgrades happen, so..."     Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[23:32] <copacetic> Nonsense, I use sudo all the time.
[23:32] <cicero_123> what is the default dvd player?
[23:32] <copacetic> Not for running programs though...
[23:32] <mefisto__> copacetic: follow that link. it's not nonsense
[23:32] <nosrednaekim> cicero_123➜ kaffiene
[23:32] <Arwen> cicero_123, kaffeiene
[23:33] <copacetic> xine or vlc - best for playing videos
[23:33] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=42804
[23:33] <giovanni_home> ubuntu: if you're typing in a console you can use sudo with graphical apps...
[23:33] <cicero_123> thanx. :)  everything works now, and i can be free of ms
[23:33] <giovanni_home> ubotu:  if you're typing in a console you can use sudo with graphical apps...
[23:33] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ you can probably find a deb somewhere as well
[23:33] <mefisto__> giovanni_home: ubuto is a bot
[23:33] <yereth> stop typing, I'm trying to select a line
[23:33] <giovanni_home> ahah
[23:34] <copacetic> type type
[23:34] <giovanni_home> it's just said me it's not intelligent
[23:34] <cicero_123> 5th day of linux/kubuntu. thanx all. :) have a good day.
[23:34] <yereth> :P
[23:34] <nosrednaekim> cicero_123➜ cheers!
[23:34] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ lol
[23:34]  * Arwen has no desire to be "freed of ms"
[23:34] <intelikey> giovanni_home you should not use sudo with graphical apps.
[23:34] <giovanni_home> why intelikey
[23:34] <yereth> nosrednaekim: configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[23:35] <copacetic> I never use to like MS, but now I despise them after what they did with OLPC.
[23:35] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ like I said.... find a deb ;)
[23:35] <yereth> eheheh
[23:35] <intelikey> giovanni_home cause it's not made for them.   if you want to be in here asking us how to streighten out what it messes up,  then go ahead.
[23:35] <yereth> nosrednaekim: ugh.. i386
[23:35] <giovanni_home> intelikey: kdesu is slower
[23:36] <oloughlin75> gmail looks so fugly in konquerer
[23:36] <copacetic> Why would you use sudo to run a graphical app in the first place?
[23:36] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75➜ well, congrats on getting it to work in the first place
[23:36] <giovanni_home> intelikey: I've been using sudo in console for years without problems
[23:36] <intelikey> giovanni_home so use what ever you want.    but don't come crying to me that you can no longer login as user or that blah wont run anymore.
[23:36] <giovanni_home> intelikey: don't worry about that
[23:37] <intelikey> console != X-apps
[23:37] <giovanni_home> intelikey: I mean graphical apps in console
[23:37] <mefisto__> giovanni_home:  http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo explains
[23:37] <copacetic> curses?
[23:37] <yereth> nosrednaekim: oops.. forgot build-essentials
[23:37] <oloughlin75> that site says you cant sudo kate, but you can
[23:38] <yereth> nosrednaekim: didn't compile stuff for a while
[23:38] <Angelus> guys
[23:38] <oloughlin75> I got a question for the next time I mess up xorg... how do you delete it/rename it? It always warns me about token xorg and conf or something and rename doesnt work
[23:38] <Angelus> why is konqeuror displaying some of the fonts incomplete?
[23:39] <copacetic> Because konqueror is terrible.
[23:39] <Dragnslcr> oloughlin75- sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[23:39] <giovanni_home> sudo kate works for me
[23:39] <Angelus> other then that copacetic?
[23:39] <coreymon77> giovanni_home: wowowowow
[23:39] <Angelus> giovanni_home:  kdesu no sudo
[23:39] <coreymon77> giovanni_home: never use sudo for graphical applications
[23:39] <oloughlin75> rename doesnt work?
[23:39] <Dragnslcr> Or cp instead of mv if you want to make a copy
[23:39] <intelikey> !worksforme | giovanni_home
[23:39] <ubotu> giovanni_home: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.  I understood, but I'll keep using sudo... kdesu is slower
[23:40] <coreymon77> giovanni_home: alright then, dont say we didnt warn you
[23:40] <Dragnslcr> copacetic- well, the assumption is that you would then replace it with another xorg.conf file
[23:40] <oloughlin75> copacetic: for the next time i mess up xorg and cant figure out how to delete the bad one and rename the backup
[23:40] <Angelus> come on guys
[23:40] <Angelus> no need to kill him for that stupid line :
[23:40] <Angelus> :P
[23:40] <intelikey> moreover don't tell others to use it.
[23:41] <yereth> "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[23:41] <yereth> any thoughts?
[23:41] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ whats this on?
[23:41] <yereth> already installed xlibs-static-dev
[23:41] <stevarino> hm, /etc/issue reads "ubuntu 6.06.2 lts" is that normal?
[23:41] <yereth> nosrednaekim: ./configure at the package
[23:41] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ to a apt-get build-dep on the source dir
[23:41] <intelikey> yereth xorg-dev something maybe
[23:42] <nosrednaekim> *do
[23:42] <oloughlin75> Whats a good java IDE for linux?
[23:42] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75➜ eclipse
[23:42] <yereth> nosrednaekim: I can build-dep a source dir?
[23:42] <copacetic> lol @ him using ubuntu 6.06
[23:42] <oloughlin75> i dont particularly like eclipse
[23:42] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ yes, I forget EXACTLY how,but man apt-get should tell you
[23:43] <copacetic> stevarino, Do you still use rotary phones too?
[23:43] <intelikey> copacetic 6.6 is LTS still supported offically
[23:43] <nosrednaekim> copacetic➜ what? its still officially supported
[23:43] <copacetic> So?
[23:43] <nosrednaekim> so, its perfectly ok for him to still be using it, and we will support it for another year at least
[23:43] <intelikey> copacetic so you show your iq by laughing at someone for using it.   that what.
[23:43] <stevarino> :( i just d/l what the server gave me
[23:44] <copacetic> How does that show my IQ?
[23:44] <dsmith_> besides dell laptops, anyone else know of any cheap models that work flawlessly out of box from say Lenovo, HP, Acer for an example?
[23:44] <denis> hallo
[23:44] <nosrednaekim> dsmith_➜ acer 5050 works great here.
[23:44] <yereth> nosrednaekim: build-dep needs a package
[23:44] <oloughlin75> nothing works out of the box dsmith_
[23:44] <oloughlin75> :)
[23:44] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ oh.... it needs a source deb?
[23:44] <dsmith_> ok,..
[23:44] <copacetic> I'm laughing because it's old. Doesn't matter if it's "officially supported." It's still old.
[23:45] <denis> me f
[23:45] <yereth> nosrednaekim: it says so
[23:45] <Arwen> heh
[23:45] <sub[t]rnl> !ot | copacetic
[23:45] <ubotu> copacetic: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[23:45] <denis> sorry
[23:45] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ err sorry then ;)
[23:45] <yereth> sub[t]rnl: official.. lol
[23:45] <yereth> nosrednaekim: np
[23:45] <Arwen> so hard to trim down installs with all this stuff being depended on by *-desktop...
[23:45] <oloughlin75> is there a list of bot commands somewhere?
[23:45] <nosrednaekim> !bot
[23:45] <denis> me p.e., I have a problem on this Lenovo 3000 N200
[23:45] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[23:46] <dsmith_> nosrednaekim: I am looking for some low end laptops to install linux on and sell
[23:46] <stevarino> hm, this would explain a lot of my troubles
[23:46] <nosrednaekim> dsmith_➜ well, used thinkpads are nice.
[23:46] <copacetic> You can install linux on a Compaq Armada.
[23:46] <dsmith_> R61a?
[23:46] <copacetic> You could probably find one for $10.
[23:46] <dsmith_> lol I am talking new
[23:46] <nosrednaekim> stevarino➜ what would?
[23:46] <intelikey> dsmith_ most older hardware is supported.
[23:46] <dsmith_> I have installed on a few laptops already
[23:47] <denis> I have Kubuntu 7.06 and want to upgrade to 7.10 but it always makes me problems
[23:47] <dsmith_> intelikey: I know.. :)
[23:47] <oloughlin75> dsmith_: I have a Gateway MT3422 and the only thing that didnt work OTB was the sound
[23:47] <dsmith_> denis: BACKUP, then upgrade
[23:47] <nosrednaekim> dsmith_➜ well, then go intel, best advice I can give for low-end stuff.
[23:47] <denis> rookie, me
[23:47] <nosrednaekim> it'll get you away from broadcom, etc
[23:47] <dsmith_> oloughlin75: thats the problem I have with a panasonic CF-51
[23:47] <oloughlin75> dsmith_: Never get an ATI card in it!
[23:47] <denis> there is nothing to backup
[23:47] <dsmith_> ati, never
[23:48] <dsmith_> broadcom, never
[23:48] <denis> it's all-new
[23:48] <denis> nvidia isn't better
[23:48] <dsmith_> is so :P
[23:48] <copacetic> denis, If you're having upgrade problems, just download the newest iso, burn and re-install.
[23:48] <oloughlin75> dsmith_: Did you try the lastest alsa drivers? My sound needs them, and kubuntu hasnt upgraded them yet
[23:48] <denis> no, I don think so, but I have another problem, as I already mentionend
[23:48] <dsmith_> oloughlin75: I dont remember
[23:49] <denis> I did download the newest iso
[23:49] <yereth> quite a bitch to compile a package
[23:49] <copacetic> Then why are you trying to upgrade?
[23:49] <denis> it said it would be DVD of 7.10
[23:49] <yereth> so many dependencies
[23:49] <dsmith_> copacetic: you beat me to saying that :)
[23:49] <denis> how do I see the version of my system?
[23:49] <oloughlin75> yereth: Just takes a few minutes :/
[23:49] <yereth> denis: uname -a
[23:49] <oloughlin75> and i had to install some random package else i got an error
[23:49] <intelikey> because the newest iso is old, that is to say there are updates for most of the packages on it.
[23:49] <denis> thanks
[23:49] <yereth> erm..
[23:50] <yereth> that's the kernel :)
[23:50] <oloughlin75> ?
[23:50] <intelikey> denis lsb_release -a
[23:50] <denis> jep