[00:00] <tbc> I figured you were quietly reading. :)
[00:02] <tbc> erichammond: I'm reminded now of sar, too.
[00:12] <erichammond> tbc: I've used sar casually but I think it only reports at the same level as the rest of the tools (i.e., user, system, iowait, nice, steal, ...)
[00:12] <tbc> erichammond: that's what I read in the collectl docs just now. Thus collectl may help you more than other tools you've tried.
[00:12] <erichammond> Based on my speed reading so far, collectl seems to be similar, unless there is a plugin which does something more.
[00:12] <tbc> ah
[00:13] <tbc> You might at least write to the list of post on the forum to see what that crowd has to say.
[00:13] <erichammond> As it turns out, we may have identified the cause through other means.  I just noticed that the fork rate increased at the same time on the munin charts.
[00:16] <ja660k> is there an x86 version of ubuntu server?
[00:19] <ja660k> !x86
[00:27] <erichammond> tbc: We think we've tracked the cause down to the invocation of an external process to calculate MD5 signatures instead of using the CPAN MD5 package.  Testing the fix soon.
[00:28] <tbc> glad to hear that
[00:33] <wweasel> I have a frustrating problem with my Ubuntu server install. It periodically goes into some sort of suspend state, where it doesn't respond to ping/ssh, etc. and, more strangely, doesn't keep the system time advancing.  If I touch a keyboard key it immediately wakes. Could anyone help me figure it out?
[00:36] <erichammond> tbc: Thanks for your ideas.  We track average page generation time with munin graphs.  After our last release, that jumped up a bit (200ms) which we correlated with a jump in system CPU and then to a jump in forks.  Then, examining the deltas in the revision control we identified the culprit.
[00:37] <tbc> Excellent!
[00:37] <erichammond> I love web development with fast release cycles.
[00:40] <tbc> heh
[00:41] <tbc> ja660k: re. !x86 architectures. Yes. See https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/hardware-supported.html
[00:41] <tbc> People should hang around a little longer for answers. J
[00:41] <tbc> wweasel: Did you install only server packages, or is X also running?
[00:42] <wweasel> tbc, server packages only.
[00:42] <tbc> erichammond: yeah, no problem w/fast releases as long as troubleshooting velocity keeps up. IRC rocks IMO.
[00:42] <wweasel> It's on a laptop, but obviously AC connected.
[00:43] <tbc> wweasel: sounds like some random laptop package is trying to save on power. But I haven't encountered that before. Sorry.
[00:45] <wweasel> tbc, Yeah :/ It would be nice if I could even know what exactly is happening. Would you know which log file I ought to look through? It's not clear to me.
[00:46] <tbc> wweasel: /var/log/messages
[00:46]  * tbc is guessing now
[00:47] <tbc> wweasel: Send 'ps -fe' to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ and I'll have a look.
[00:49] <tbc> wweasel: make that 'ps aux'
[00:49] <wweasel> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m7c27bf38
[00:49]  * tbc reads
[00:49] <wweasel> wait wait, that was ps -fe
[00:49] <tbc> np
[00:50]  * tbc has old habits
[00:50] <wweasel> shall I pastebin ps aux as well, or no worries?
[00:50] <tbc> Yes, let me see that, too.
[00:52] <wweasel> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m58a456a4
[00:53] <zorzar> hi is there a way to exclude dependencies from packages? i run a hadles ubuntu server without X an a packege depends on X but i don't want to install it
[00:54] <tbc> wweasel: you're running some KDE processes. Those are desktop packages.
[00:54]  * tbc didn't expect server edition to install KDE
[00:54] <wweasel> hrm. That's really odd, I don't think I've installed any KDE packages at all.
[00:57] <tbc> I've seen KDE get sucked in when I've installed an app that uses a GUI. zorzar: you're asking something similar. I'm new to the server edition and may be wrong, but I can say that if one is running a server one should be able to get along w/o X.
[00:57] <tbc> We need a tool that shows all installed packages and what they depend on. I'm sure it exists, but I'm rusty.
[00:57] <wweasel> yeah, I mean no X applications
[00:57] <tbc> *nod*
[00:57] <wweasel> I just pastebin'd my dpkg --get-selections
[00:58] <wweasel> that's all my installed packages
[00:58] <tbc> *chuckle* wweasel - URL, please?
[01:01] <wweasel> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1845464c
[01:02] <tbc> reading...
[01:03] <wweasel> Like, I'm not all that advanced a linux user, but I've also been using linux for a while. The closest thing I've installed to a desktop app is Deluge.
[01:03] <wweasel> but I installed the backend and run a gtk client on my desktop
[01:03] <tbc> Sounds reasonable.
[01:03] <wweasel> and even then, that wouldn't have any kde dependencies - it's gtk
[01:03] <tbc> yup
[01:04] <wweasel> I wish I could get you the list of installed packages on a clean install and just show the diff with my install.
[01:04] <tbc> np
[01:05] <tbc> We can get that. Still thinking...
[01:06]  * tbc thinks his KDE suspicion was wrongheaded
[01:07] <wweasel> I'm pretty sure there's no desktop components installed
[01:07] <wweasel> it's a recent install (1 month)
[01:07] <wweasel> so all the packages i've installed are in my recent memory :)
[01:08] <tbc> wweasel: sorry, I have to go soon, but have a look at this list: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d580449e0
[01:08] <tbc> Those are the obviously-named kernel daemons
[01:09] <tbc> I think instead of a package you have some ACPI event putting your system in a less-than-fully-conscious state.
[01:09] <tbc> But that's only a hypothesis. I could be wrong.
[01:09] <wweasel> what about them?
[01:10] <wweasel> It's plausible
[01:10] <wweasel> The last time I was troubleshooting, the guy I was working with suspected it might be ACPI-related
[01:11] <wweasel> And suggested I start the server with the kernel parameter acpi=off
[01:11] <wweasel> In fact, that's how it's running right now, and no luck...it still suspends.
[01:11] <tbc> ah
[01:11] <tbc> For instance, why would kgameportd be running on a server? I don't think that daemon needs to run.
[01:12] <wweasel> Not sure. Do you have a server install? Check if it's running.
[01:16]  * tbc only has a notebook running Linux atm
[01:17] <wweasel> hrm
[01:17] <wweasel> Well, it's something power-saving related
[01:17] <wweasel> It wouldn't seem to be suspend, because it wakes *instantly* on a keyboard press
[01:18] <wweasel> so it's more likely "standby" state.
[01:18] <tbc> Yeah.  That's what intrigues me.
[01:19] <wweasel> It's an old eMachines laptop from 1994...
[01:19] <wweasel> sorry, 2004
[01:19] <wweasel> not 1994.
[01:20] <wweasel> big difference :P
[01:20] <wweasel> it also has corrupted video ram, making odd distortions on the screen. but that's irrelevant as well.
[01:21] <tbc> Heh.
[01:21] <tbc> I have an old Compaq with a broken display. Boots fine. Nice server admin'd via ssh. But I haven't turned it on in years.
[01:23] <wweasel> yeah, that's the idea with my eMachines. less power hungry than a tower, completely unusable as a desktop (even the VGA-out is corrupted by the video ram)
[01:23] <wweasel> i'm presently wondering if I should try booting with acpi=off, apm=off
[01:24] <tbc> That sounds like something to try. After all, you can easily reproduce this problem, right? How long does it take?
[01:24] <tbc> For it to go semi-conscious?
[01:25] <wweasel> I haven't timed it. I don't think it's consistent either.
[01:25] <wweasel> But generally in about 15 min - an hour.
[01:25] <wweasel> so easily reproducible
[01:25] <wweasel> although it's very weird: "By default, hibernate/standby is disabled on the server edition", according to the internets
[01:26] <tbc> But it's neither suspending nor hibernating.
[01:26] <wweasel> no, but it's standby-ing.
[01:26] <wweasel> I think
[01:26] <tbc> My first guess was a screensaver. But that's too obvious.
[01:26] <wweasel> I had a ubuntu wiki page describing the difference between the three
[01:26] <wweasel> Well, it does know to turn off the laptop's screen after a certain period of IO inactivity.
[01:27] <wweasel> and does so even though I have acpi disabled
[01:27] <tbc> But screen blank shouldn't be causing the other brain damage.
[01:27] <tbc> So I'm intrigued.
[01:27] <tbc> Could be a bug.
[01:27] <wweasel> Indeed. Apparently it's not just a screen blank
[01:27]  * tbc likes bugs
[01:27] <tbc> bugs are a chance to improve the system
[01:28] <tbc> for everyone
[01:28] <wweasel> could be. would probably have to be reproducible on another system though
[01:28] <tbc> Finding them, that is.
[01:28] <tbc> Yeah. But if you can reproduce, it could enough to find & fix.
[01:28] <wweasel> Yep
[01:31] <wweasel> Alright, well, I'm trying acpi=off apm=off.
[01:31] <wweasel> And going to go have dinner.
[01:31] <wweasel> Much as it's kind of curious, it's also REALLY frustrating.
[01:32] <tbc> I can imagine. I'll be online for a while yet.
[01:33] <wweasel> Alright, I'll be back later! Thanks for all of your help
[01:33] <tbc> Glad to be here.
[02:02] <jolaren> Hello. I'm trying to install ubuntu server form usb.. but it keeps saying Could not find kernel image: Linux boot:
[02:02] <jolaren> What could be the error?
[02:09] <stimble_> do you get past the grub menu to select the image?
[02:10] <jolaren> stimble_;
[02:10] <jolaren> No it's just at the start
[02:10] <jolaren> SYSLINUX 3.63 Debia-2008....
[02:10] <stimble_> so you don't even see the grub menu?
[02:10] <jolaren> No
[02:11] <stimble_> have you installed grub to the usb device?
[02:11] <stimble_> grub-install /dev/sdb
[02:11] <stimble_> or similar
[02:11] <jolaren> I'm using unetbootin
[02:11] <jolaren> I'm trying to boot of the usb device
[02:11] <jolaren> and install ubuntu server
[02:11] <stimble_> i dont know anything about unetbootin
[02:12] <jolaren> simple well used linux boot usb
[02:12] <stimble_> your machine does not support direct netowrk booting?
[02:12] <stimble_> that might be a better bet
[02:12] <jolaren> I'm burning a new usb now
[02:13] <jolaren> Is it easy to install a server with pxe btw?
[02:13] <stimble_> unetbootin looks pretty cool tho
[02:13] <jolaren> yer its great
[02:13] <stimble_> i'd never heard of it
[02:13] <jolaren> been usin it for years
[02:13] <stimble_> pxe works, yeah
[02:13] <jolaren> i have no experience of it
[02:13] <jolaren> my dell poweredge 750 searches for pxe at boot
[02:13] <jolaren> if set to it i.e
[02:14] <jolaren> I've tried hookin up a cd rom reader etc to it but dun work
[02:14] <jolaren> last option is to move the hdd to a friends house
[02:14] <jolaren> and install it over there
[02:14] <jolaren> but, how easy is it with pxe?
[02:15] <stimble_> its not too tough
[02:15] <stimble_> u just need a tftp server, and dhcp setup
[02:15] <stimble_> and grap the netbooot images
[02:15] <stimble_> confiugre tftp to server em up
[02:15] <jolaren> bah
[02:15] <stimble_> and dhcpd to tell the requester to request the netboot image
[02:15] <jolaren> settin that up on me netbook is gay
[02:15] <stimble_> not easy peasy, but doable
[02:16] <stimble_> ha
[02:16] <jolaren> tried to hook up the s-ata disc to my ion
[02:16] <jolaren> ion asrock 330
[02:16] <jolaren> but apparently they have their own hyped s-ata cables
[02:18] <jolaren> kinda bugs me
[02:18] <jolaren> i have to setup mythbackend on a crap computer now
[02:18] <jolaren> cuz my srv wont boot
[02:19] <bogeyd6> what does 'wont boot' mean/
[02:19] <jolaren> well
[02:19] <jolaren> it boots to a concurrent old installation of fedora
[02:19] <jolaren> but I can't manage to insatll anythin to it
[02:20] <jolaren> or
[02:20] <jolaren> how can i put it
[02:20] <jolaren> I can't reinstall.. like wipe it all out
[02:22] <jolaren> and
[02:22] <bogeyd6> this is ubuntu server channel
[02:22] <jolaren> yer I knw
[02:22] <jolaren> know
[02:22] <jolaren> I want to install ubuntu server
[02:22] <bogeyd6> ok then when you boot the server cd, then it comes times to setup partitions go manual and set mount points and set format = no on them
[02:22] <bogeyd6> it will install over what is there with the things from the server cd
[02:23] <bogeyd6> anything else will be left alone
[02:23] <jolaren> yer but ya not followin bogeyd6
[02:23] <bogeyd6> also, make sure you setup a different user
[02:23] <jolaren> well
[02:23] <jolaren> this old comp
[02:23] <jolaren> will probarly boot just fine
[02:23] <jolaren> from ubuntu server from a usb
[02:23] <jolaren> but my poweredge 750
[02:23] <jolaren> I just cant get it to boot
[02:23] <jolaren> dno how ima solve it
[02:23] <bogeyd6> i dont know how to solve a fedora booting problem, try 3fedora
[02:24] <bogeyd6> hmm this is a new keyboard and the keys still dont work, yet a usb keyboard will
[02:25] <jolaren> a fedora booting problem?
[02:25] <jolaren> uhm
[02:25] <jolaren> an installation problem
[02:25] <jolaren> that it currently concures fedora is just a side-note
[02:25] <jolaren> not installed by me
[02:26] <jolaren> I want to wipe it clean
[02:26] <jolaren> as i said earlier
[02:26] <bogeyd6> hmm, my control keys dont work either so no copying pasting
[02:27] <jolaren> dat blows
[02:27] <bogeyd6> so you want to wipe the server clean
[02:27] <jolaren> yer
[02:27] <jolaren> i've tried almost all versions there is of it
[02:27] <jolaren> but i mean
[02:27] <jolaren> next step is either to bring the hdd to a friend
[02:27] <jolaren> or borrow and external cd reader
[02:27] <bogeyd6> dariks boot and nuke
[02:28] <bogeyd6> wipes the hdd completely clean of anything and you can start all over
[02:28] <jolaren> well
[02:28] <jolaren> i cant boot of anything
[02:28] <jolaren> ive tried usb
[02:28] <bogeyd6> but im confused because the ubuntu server cd install will re-do the partitions
[02:28] <jolaren> cd
[02:28] <bogeyd6> ok, so its a hardware problem/
[02:28] <jolaren> well
[02:28] <jolaren> not really a problem
[02:28] <jolaren> or not really a hardware problem
[02:28] <jolaren> more lackthereof
[02:29] <bogeyd6> you are making absolutely no sense at all
[02:29] <bogeyd6> the server wont boot a cd, yet its not a cd probme
[02:29] <bogeyd6> did you check the bios to change the boot order to cd, usb, then hdd
[02:29] <jolaren> ofcourse, but it's all fuzzy
[02:30] <jolaren> the fudge
[02:30] <bogeyd6> ok, im done, good luck
[02:30] <jolaren> this is like the fifth usb i've burnt
[02:30] <jolaren> that says
[02:31] <jolaren> could not find kernel image: linux
[02:31] <bogeyd6> how do you burn a usb
[02:32] <jolaren> unetbootin
[02:32] <stimble_> jolaren: can you boot another machine from the usb
[02:32] <bogeyd6> it is possible the server wont boot usb
[02:32] <stimble_> does it only fail on the poweredge
[02:32] <bogeyd6> lots of computers wont install from an external usb dvd drive
[02:33] <stimble_> yeah, lots of older hardware dont support usb boot
[02:33] <jolaren> well
[02:33] <jolaren> well now im not trying to boot the server
[02:34] <jolaren> i'm trying to boot annother computer
[02:34] <jolaren> a old one
[02:34] <bogeyd6> a brand new at the time dl 380 wouldnt install windows from external dvd drive either
[02:35] <jolaren> stimble_;
[02:35] <jolaren> ye
[02:35] <jolaren> stimble_; Other machines boots good
[02:35] <jolaren> strange
[02:35] <jolaren> probarbly bios settings
[02:36] <stimble_> well, then that machine just dont support usb boot
[02:36] <stimble_> so use cd or pxe
[02:38] <jolaren> well
[02:38] <jolaren> isnt it strange
[02:38] <jolaren> that I get up the loader?
[02:39] <jolaren> The
[02:39] <bogeyd6> not strange at all
[02:39] <jolaren> SYSLINUX 3.63 Debian-2008...
[02:39] <jolaren> Okay..
[02:45] <stimble_> jolaren:  the answer is CD or PXE
[02:45] <stimble_> stop fighitng it i say
[02:46] <stimble_> or take the drive out and install to it from another computer
[03:01] <jolaren> stimble_; well i guess ill have to get a cd tomorrow then
[03:01] <jolaren> but then i might aswell try to run over to a friend
[03:01] <stimble_> or pxe
[03:01] <jolaren> just wonder who has sata discs
[03:01] <jolaren> pxe seems complicated
[03:01] <jolaren> allthought
[03:02] <stimble_> a chance to learn:-)
[03:02] <stimble_> its not that bad
[03:02] <stimble_> not cake, but not terrible
[03:04] <jolaren> well but still lad
[03:04] <jolaren> reckon if i lay 3 hours of my time doin that
[03:04] <jolaren> and it wont work
[03:04] <jolaren> reckon my rage
[03:08] <jolaren> tho stimble_
[03:08] <jolaren> would an external cd drive work or should I just go hunt a friend
[03:08] <stimble_> no pain, no gain
[03:08] <stimble_> usb is your prob im thinking
[03:09] <stimble_> so would not count on usb cd
[03:09] <stimble_> i would at least try pxe
[03:09] <stimble_> there are lots of docs and howtos on it
[03:09] <jolaren> yer ive seen plenty
[03:09] <jolaren> but their pretty intense
[03:09] <jolaren> and in some cases you need floppies?
[03:14] <stimble_> picka good one
[03:14] <stimble_> and u dont need floopies
[03:15] <stimble_> so dont pick one of those
[03:26] <jolaren> will be easier to just hope some of my friends
[03:26] <jolaren> has a computer with a s-ata drive
[04:09] <Roxyhart0> Hi there iam tring to install a new schema and i am getting this error : ldap_add: Server is unwilling to perform (53)
[04:09] <Roxyhart0>         additional info: no global superior knowledge
[04:09] <Roxyhart0> any idea?
[04:45] <jMyles> I'm trying to stream ffmpeg using ffserver, but when a client tries to connect, I get an error message: "Error writing output header."  Not much in the way of help from our or other forums.  Anybody seen this?
[04:52] <tbc> Roxyhart0: I googled and found this. Does it help? http://www.openldap.org/faq/data/cache/1322.html
[05:00] <Roxyhart0> thanks tbc.i read that but still i can't see where is the problem in my cnfiguration as i follow the configuration guide exatly that it say
[05:01] <bizkit> how do i generate a text file of all the installed packages on my ubuntu server?
[05:01] <jmarsden> bizkit:  dpkg --get-selections | cut -f1
[05:01] <jmarsden> ah, wait...
[05:02] <jmarsden> dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall$ |cut -f1
[05:02] <tbc> Roxyhart0: you'll have better luck connecting with LDAP community. I'm not an LDAP expert.
[05:03] <Roxyhart0> if i declare dc=mydomain, cd=edu,dc=au. Ahould I declare also dc=edu adfter that?
[05:07]  * tbc wonders if someone else on this channel can help Roxyhart0
[05:15] <jmarsden> tbc: Without (more or less) doing all his LDAP schema creation work for him, probably not.  I think at this point Roxyhart0 needs to better understand LDAP and openldap, and then create a working ldif file to add the new schema.  See http://www.openldap.org/doc/admin24/guide.html and (for adding/extending schemas) especially Chapter 13 of that guide.
[05:16]  * tbc didn't think Roxyhart0 had picked the best channel for his question
[05:16] <jmarsden> That's probably true too.  I spent some time yesterday (or the day before?) helping him get openldap installed and working, BTW.
[05:17] <tbc> jmarsden: on this channel?
[05:17] <Roxyhart0> who is him?
[05:18] <Roxyhart0> i am her
[05:18] <tbc> Roxyhart0: I'm sorry, Rosa. I should have checked your info.
[05:18] <tbc> d'oh
[05:19] <tbc> That was jmarsden's error. :)
[05:19] <jmarsden> tbc: Yes.  Roxyhart0: My bad.  Anyway, do read the guide and see if it helps you understand what is going on.
[05:20] <Roxyhart0> thanks :D
[05:22] <tbc> So Roxyhart0 do you need help connecting with the OpenLDAP folks?
[05:22] <tbc> I've been meaning to look up a friend who's an LDAP expert. I'm wondering if he's active in the OpenLDAP community.
[05:24] <Roxyhart0> really? if he is still in the comunity could be great talk with him
[05:32] <tbc> Roxyhart0: start here: http://ostatic.org/openldap
[05:33] <Roxyhart0> do i need to configurate or add to the tree manually cn=schema?
[05:36] <tbc> Roxyhart0: I don't know. Your best course of action is to visit http://ostatic.org/openldap and join their community. It's late and I need to reboot. I'm https://launchpad.net/~tbc0 - I'll be online tomorrow if you still need help connecting with them.
[05:37] <Roxyhart0> thanks very much
[05:37] <tbc> yw
[06:42] <achew22> Does anyone know if eucalyptus has support for amazon style elastic map reduce?
[07:17] <astevens> ls
[07:17] <astevens> oops, sorry :)
[07:25] <macrocosm> anyone ever recovered data from a mdadm raid who's superblocks were screwed n chewed?  Ive read a gazillion things googling but nothing seems to work.  Im running xfs_repair /dev/md0 right now but nothing yet, it keeps saying "found candidate  secondary superblock ... unable to verify superblock, continuing"  Is there another way to replace the superblocks?
[07:25] <macrocosm> Whats the expected amount of time to let this run?  There is barely any data on the raid, just a couple hundred megs.
[07:40] <macrocosm> trying TestDisk now... normally my obsessive backups would save my ass right now but they silently failed 6 important working days ago .. isnt that nice!
[08:24] <chilicuil> what files does ubuntu change to share folders while setting them up in the X system?, coz I've shared some of them in that way and I don't see them in the /etc/samba/smb.conf file
[08:26] <Roxyhart0> somebody know a guide to instal postfix, ouried idmap with ldap?
[08:43] <macrocosm> strange Testdisk found Ext2 superblocks in my XFS drive.  That doesnt seem proper ... and may be why xfs_repair wouldnt work.
[08:45] <Roxyhart0> somebody had a doc how to instal postfix with ldap support?
[08:45] <jmarsden> macrocosm: Sounds like maybe it was really ext2 or ext3?   I must have done something that overwrote the superblocks as ext2
[08:49] <jmarsden> macrocosm: Only the superblocks?  How would you do that?
[08:50] <macrocosm> I have no clue.. my apache stoped working and I restarted ... upon return md0 was no longer mounted .. when I tried to mount I got all these errors about the superblock
[08:50] <jmarsden> I don't think I could write over all XFS superblocks in a filesystem with ext2 ones if I really really tried, except by hand with a sector editor and a LOT of time and patience... that just doesn't sound plausible.
[08:51] <macrocosm> I cant explain why testDisk would state that the superblocks were ext2, perhaps its confused
[08:52] <jmarsden> Hmmm... are you confusing RAID superblocks with filesystem superblocks?
[08:52] <macrocosm> well .. It is a raid0 .. but the drives are formated XFS
[08:53] <macrocosm> and the testdisk im running is only on that raid .. which has no system files on it
[08:54] <jmarsden> So there should be RAID superblocks which tell the system that this is a RAID0, parameters of the RAID are X, Y Z.... *and* once you treat the thing as a RAID device, there will then be XFS superblocks on top of that.
[08:54] <jmarsden> But until you have a RAID device, you can't even begin to see or check for a filesystem... unless I'm VERY confused?
[08:55] <macrocosm> yea ... the drives are together in the raid... I just cant mount it because of the superblock error
[08:55] <jmarsden> Does cat /proc/mdstat show that the RAID device md0 is fine and happy?
[08:56] <macrocosm> yeah
[08:56] <macrocosm> Personalities : [raid0]
[08:56] <macrocosm> md0 : active raid0 sdf[0] sdi[3] sdh[2] sdg[1]
[08:56] <macrocosm>       314572544 blocks 64k chunks
[08:56] <macrocosm> unused devices: <none>
[08:56] <jmarsden> OK.  So, what does    file /dev/md0      output?
[08:57] <macrocosm> hmm irc doesnt like the output .. do I need to put it inside some special brackets or someasmuch?
[08:57] <macrocosm> just one line
[08:57] <macrocosm> dev/md0: block special
[08:57] <macrocosm> ahh that worked
[08:57] <Roxyhart0> any experience with courier-idmap and ldap?
[08:58] <macrocosm> sorry roxyhart0 ive not used that
[08:58] <jmarsden> Roxyhart0: You should probably try the courier folks of the ldap folks for that.
[08:58] <jmarsden> s/of/or/
[08:59] <Roxyhart0> i did, but with ubuntu is a little bit different everything
[09:00] <jmarsden> Yes, but it you understand what courier and what ldap are doing, that knowledge should apply just fine to Ubuntu, even if the defaults are slightly different.
[09:00] <jmarsden> It's not like the courier config file format is different or anything like that.
[09:02] <macrocosm> jmarsden .. is /dev/md0: block special  ....  a normal output from cmd ...  file /dev/md0 ?
[09:02] <as1965> Roxyhart: Sorry - don't use Courier or LDAP. However, Howtoforge often has useful steps for install/setup of this sort of thing.
[09:02] <as1965> Try google : site:www.howtoforge.com +postfix +ldap +courier
[09:02] <macrocosm> yes howtoforge is awesome
[09:03] <jmarsden> macrocosm: Yes.   It's a valid block device.  That's fine.   I'm not familiar with XFS enough to know how to proceed in detail; I'd tend to try and find out how to identify an XFS filesystem at a low level (is there a signature in the first block of the disk, or whatever) and make sure the raw data on /dev/md0 "looks like" an XFS filesystem
[09:04] <jmarsden> If it does, you need to try to repair or rewrite that bad XFS superblock.
[09:05] <macrocosm> well .. I have been using it for about a month with no problems .. however their was a bug with the latest ubuntu and XFS which caused it to not mount on reboot sometimes... apparently the last time was the last time lol.  Ill be good as long as I can get my data off of it... hopefully testdisk will help
[09:05] <jmarsden> If you know what you are doing with filesystems, see what xfs_db can do for you...
[09:06] <jmarsden> BTW, next time, don't use RAID0 for data you care about :)
[09:06] <jmarsden> RAID1 for important data would be a lot more robust.
[09:06] <as1965> macrocosm: there's an xfs_check as well I think. Plus an XFS mailing list - might be worth checking that.
[09:07] <macrocosm> well .. I would normally not have done that but amazon EBS drives are fully redundant
[09:07] <macrocosm> supposedly
[09:07] <macrocosm> and I have obsessive snapshots .. but they silently failed 6 days ago .. when all this transpired I was so happy to pop over and grab a snapshot to restore from but there were no recent ones lol
[09:08] <macrocosm> gotta love a perfect storm
[09:10] <jmarsden> macrocosm: So now you get to write a cron job that emails you if there are no snapshots less than 24 hours old... but that doesn't help with the data currently on this array.
[09:11] <macrocosm> True .. I really wish I had done that to begin with... would have saved me some headach.. but the upside is I have learned much more in the process so thats always good
[09:12] <macrocosm> I really appreciate your help and tips .. hopefully testdisk will help me get my files off ... ive backed up these dead turd drives so I may try banging them around some first though..
[09:13] <jmarsden> Yes.  One more idea... try dd if=/dev/md0 bs=1M count=10 >testmd0 ; file testmd0     # this should let file say what kind of fs it saw
[09:13] <macrocosm> 10+0 records in
[09:13] <macrocosm> 10+0 records out
[09:13] <macrocosm> 10485760 bytes (10 MB) copied, 0.205319 s, 51.1 MB/s
[09:13] <macrocosm> testmd0: x86 boot sector; partition 1: ID=0x83, active, starthead 0, startsector 256, 629143552 sectors
[09:14] <jmarsden> Ah, that was not a partition that was a "drive" complete with partition table.
[09:14] <jmarsden> So what does   fdisk -l /dev/md0     say?
[09:15] <macrocosm> Disk /dev/md0: 322.1 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>56 bytes
[09:15] <macrocosm> 2 heads, 4 sectors/track, 78643136 cylinders
[09:15] <macrocosm> Units = cylinders of 8 * 512 = 4096 bytes
[09:15] <macrocosm> Disk identifier: 0x00000000
[09:15] <macrocosm>     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[09:15] <macrocosm> dev/md0p1   *          33    78642976   314571776   83  Linux
[09:16] <jmarsden> OK.  83 is the normal ext2/ext3 type byte... but I don't know whether XFS uses it too.
[09:17] <jmarsden> Hmmm, so what does   dd if=/dev/md0p1 bs=1M count=10 >testmd0p1 ; file testmd0p1     say (the last line is the interesting one)
[09:17] <macrocosm> yes its 83
[09:18] <macrocosm> dd: opening `/dev/md0p1': No such file or directory
[09:18] <macrocosm> testmd0p1: empty
[09:19] <jmarsden> Oh, hm.  So that's not a real device name at all. OK, never mind.  It's too late at night for me to figure out the right way to do it... I need to sleep :)
[09:20] <jmarsden> Oh... maybe dd if=/dev/md0 bs=4K skip=32 count=100 >testmd0p1 ; file testmd0p1
[09:21] <macrocosm> 100+0 records in
[09:21] <macrocosm> 100+0 records out
[09:21] <macrocosm> 409600 bytes (410 kB) copied, 0.001396 s, 293 MB/s
[09:21] <macrocosm> testmd0p1: SGI XFS filesystem data (blksz 4096, inosz 256, v2 dirs)
[09:21] <macrocosm> what is that? a test?
[09:21] <jmarsden> OK!  Got it!
[09:22] <jmarsden> Yes, it means there really is an XFS filesystem out there at 33 cylinders into your md0 disk.
[09:22] <jmarsden> So some kind of XFS filesystem recovery tool has a decent chance of getting your data back.
[09:23] <jmarsden> You can delete the test* files now, by the way :)
[09:23] <macrocosm> I will look around .. from what Ive read so far testdisk ... seemed the most promising
[09:24] <jmarsden> OK.  You might also be able to dd the entire filesystem out and into an image file and they try working with that, loopback mounting it etc.
[09:24] <macrocosm> hmm ... looking at the dd docs now .. didnt see that one in my searches
[09:25] <macrocosm> sweet .. I really appreciate your help!
[09:26] <jmarsden> You're welcome.  But now I need to sleep... goodnight, and I hope you get your data back!
[09:26] <macrocosm> I figured I should be able to get the stuff out .. looks like the data is still in place just the superblock is screwed n chewed
[09:26] <macrocosm> thanks man .. get some zzzz's have a nice one
[09:26] <jmarsden> Thanks.
[09:34] <guest555> can I upgrade my 7.xx server to 9.xx without a freash install?
[09:34] <as1965>  guest: I think LTS->LTS is supported directly, else one version to the next.
[09:35] <as1965> So, I would expect a fresh install to be best for you probably. Hopefully yur /home folder is on a separate partition, which helps with things
[13:04] <Zider> I have an issue with cryptdisks.. all the disks I unlock gets both foo and foo_unformatted in /dev/mapper
[13:05] <Zider> as I understand it, the _unformatted are temps or something, but shouldn't they go away then?
[13:28] <Zider> oh yeah, and the unlocking goes parallell with everything else so fstab tries to mount them before it's done..
[18:08] <stimble_> anybody happen to know where upstart jobs are defined?
[18:08] <jpds> stimble_: /etc/init/
[18:09] <stimble_> awesome
[18:09] <stimble_> thanks
[18:09] <stimble_> i've just started reading up on upstart, it looks pretty slick
[18:35] <petsounds> good evening. we plan to migrate all our campus server on monday from windows to ubuntu. can you guys give me link to a tutorial or maybe a book to learn more about migrating from windows server to ubuntu? thanks :)
[18:50] <resno> are these the best insutrction for setting up raid1? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=Convert+to+software+raid&titlesearch=Titles
[19:22] <stimble__> resno: do u need to boot from the raid drive, or just for data volume?
[19:23] <stimble__> does anyone know a way to list all the registered upstart events?
[19:42] <sherringham> stimble: man upstart -> see also -> man initctl - maybe of use
[19:42] <stimble__> i looked thru those
[19:42] <stimble__> and the website
[19:43] <stimble__> but not seeing a way to list the registered events
[19:43] <stimble__> myabe just missing it
[20:08] <resno> stimble__: i want to boot from the raid drive
[20:09] <stimble__> that howto is probably pretty good then
[20:12] <resno> ok thanks stimble__
[20:18] <wizzy_> hello people
[20:18] <wizzy_> when i go to my website i am gettin only "index of..."
[20:24] <wizzy_> so noones is here
[20:30] <wizzy_> !apache2 virtual hosts
[20:33] <wizzy_> anyone is here?
[20:35] <guntbert> wizzy_: you could ask in #httpd too
[20:36] <wizzy_> i prefer here
[20:36] <wizzy_> thank you tho
[20:39] <Callum__> on my Ubuntu 9.10 Server, doing a kernel update results in update-grub SIGSEGVing out and stopping the update, anyone have any ideas what the problem might be? Its using an LVM set up spread across three hardware RAID 1 setups...
[20:40] <Callum__> here is the Pastebin of apt-get -f install: http://pastebin.com/m5268f3f5
[20:42] <guntbert> Callum__: did you search for error 139 already?
[20:46] <Callum__> guntbert: its the error code for SIGSEGV... something is happening to make update-grub fail
[20:47] <Callum__> I think I know what the problem is, I had a similar problem while trying to install Ubuntu 9.10 Server onto an existing LVM2 made by an RPM installation
[20:48] <guntbert> Callum__: no real help from me: you could boot with a live CD and check your LVM from there though
[20:48] <Callum__> guntbert: it seems to have trouble with LVMs created or modified by an RPM system like Fedora...
[20:48] <Callum__> I caved in and nuked all my drives completely and let Ubuntu's installer create fresh LVM2 system, but I had to modify it later with a Fedora Live CD to get all of the drives used by the system
[20:51] <guntbert> Callum__: I use lvm but no raid beneath - try to test you lvm setup with some live CD
[20:52] <Callum__> guntbert: I'm removing grub2 and installing and configuring classic grub to see if that will help
[20:53] <Callum__> yeah, update is finished, fingers crossed
[20:53] <guntbert> Callum__: if you think that will help ...
[20:53] <Callum__> guntbert: yeah, had no kinds of problems like this with ordinary GRUB
[20:53] <guntbert> Callum__: good to know for the future...
[20:57] <Callum__> hmm, yeah, it boots fine...
[22:11] <wizzy_> anyones here?
[22:16] <wizzy_> i need some help
[22:50] <wizzy_> when i use wget where is file downloaded?
[22:50] <guntbert> wizzy_: in the current directory
[22:52] <wizzy_> thank you
[22:53] <wizzy_> ok i unzipped file in same directory
[22:53] <wizzy_> cd /directory and it says no such file or directory
[22:54] <guntbert> wizzy_: omit the /
[22:54] <wizzy_> thank you
[22:55] <wizzy_> i am going to try install and setup email server
[22:55] <wizzy_> i tried 3 times in past and never couldn't do it
[22:56] <guntbert> wizzy_: please keep your mail server in a closed/secure environment - don't go "public" if you are not really knowing what you are doing
[22:57] <wizzy_> i never couldnt make it work anyways :(
[22:58] <guntbert> wizzy_: take my advice: play with one in a VM without external network access ....
[22:58] <wizzy_> ok i will
[22:58] <wizzy_> how do i test it in vm ?
[22:58] <wizzy_> i get always problems with receiving
[22:59] <wizzy_> i can send message out but never back
[23:00] <guntbert> wizzy_: no tutorial from me - but be very careful not to create an "open mail relay" - that could get you into real troubles
[23:00] <wizzy_> i am curious ., what troubles?
[23:01] <guntbert> wizzy_: google for "open mail relay" - your ISP might shut you off, ...
[23:02] <wizzy_> ouuu thank you for warning
[23:04] <guntbert> wizzy_: you're welcome :-) and be careful
[23:41] <wizzy_> anyone is using ispconfig3??
[23:41] <wizzy_> i am trying to install it with "php -q install.php" and i am getting error
[23:44] <osmosis> kirkland, i just finished reading through your kvm classroom talk. very good, learned a bunch.
[23:47] <wizzy_> where did you read it?


[00:03] <mhall119> ah, I think maybe that's ted gould
[07:52] <popey> Morning
[17:21] <belkinsa> pleia2 and jose, you guys are going to OLF, right?
[17:21] <pleia2> yep
[17:22] <pleia2> you?
[17:23] <belkinsa> Yup.
[17:23] <pleia2> woo :D
[17:24] <jose> yeah me too
[17:24] <jose> see you there!
[17:25] <belkinsa> You too!
[17:26] <belkinsa> Will it be your first time to it?
[17:26] <pleia2> my first time
[17:26] <belkinsa> Same here.
[17:26] <belkinsa> And first time to (boring) Ohio?
[17:28] <jose> first time for me
[17:28] <pleia2> never been to ohio
[17:29] <belkinsa> For OLF, jose and also Ohio?
[17:29] <belkinsa> Well.
[17:29] <jose> yep
[17:29] <belkinsa> Which city are you flying in to?  Columbus?
[17:32] <jose> yep\
[17:33] <belkinsa> And ar eyou driving?
[17:33] <belkinsa> are you*
[17:34] <pleia2> boo driving
[17:35] <belkinsa> Yeah, boo driving.  I have drive from the Greater Cincy area up.
[17:35]  * belkinsa lives in West Chester
[17:37] <jose> driving where?
[17:37] <jose> isn't the conference in Columbus?
[17:38] <belkinsa> It is, but the airports are a bit away from downtown and the hotel
[17:38] <jose> oh, I'm gonna have to take an Uber then
[17:38] <pleia2> yeah, I'm grabbing a cab with a friend of mine who is coming in around the same time
[17:40] <belkinsa> Alright, just giving you a heads up on where the hotel is in relation to the airports.
[18:02] <belkinsa> And how long are you both staying in the city?
[18:08] <pleia2> I'm flying home at 8AM on Monday
[18:08] <pleia2> I hear the Columbus Zoo is not one to miss so I'm ... not going to miss it :)
[18:08] <pleia2> (going on Sunday)
[18:09] <belkinsa> I was planning to hit the Gardens.
[18:09] <belkinsa> Franklin Park Conservatory and Botanical Gardens*
[18:09] <belkinsa> But I could join you.
[18:14] <pleia2> that would be fun :)
[18:15] <pleia2> another friend is tagging along too
[18:15] <belkinsa> And I can drive us to the zoo, as I'm driving from the Southwestern part of Ohio.
[18:15] <pleia2> that's convenient, I had made sure Uber serves the area around the zoo ;)
[18:16] <pleia2> we should chat more closer in, I have two trips before ohio /o\ kinda scatterbrained
[18:16] <belkinsa> Sure, you are always welcome to PM me here.
[18:16] <pleia2> thanks :)
[18:17] <belkinsa> Not a problem.
[21:02] <mhall119> pleia2: have you ever been to the zoo in Tampa?
[21:40] <pleia2> mhall119: no, but the Miami Zoo is wonderful
[21:41] <pleia2> and have been to the Disney Animal Park a few times
[21:44] <mhall119> Lowry Park is Tampa is really very nice
[21:52] <mhall119> growing up, my neighbor was one of the big ape trainers there


[02:40] <Terry__> Hello, my ppa was enabled for three architectures: x86_64/i386/armhf. But the build for armhf takes too much time like over a day, so I wish I just build for x86_64 and i386. What should I do to the 'Architecture' line in debian/control file? Thanks.
[02:41] <wgrant> Terry__: 'Architecture: i386 amd64' would work. Or I can just switch off armhf for your PPA.
[02:42] <Terry__> Pls don't switch off armhf.
[06:37] <dpm> hi wgrant, could you give me a hand if you're around? We set up a branch for the Sudoku Touch app, but it seems it's disappeared from LP. It seems to still be there (https://code.launchpad.net/sudoku-app), but if I click on "browse the source code", I get an empty page: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sudoku-touch-dev/sudoku-app/trunk/files
[06:40] <wgrant> dpm: https://code.launchpad.net/~sudoku-touch-dev/sudoku-app/trunk is stacked on https://code.launchpad.net/~dinko-metalac/sudoku-app/trunk, so I assume the trunks have been shuffled around a bit
[06:40] <wgrant> The latter branch is no longer a branch; someone has removed the branch aspect of it.
[06:40] <wgrant> Let me see if I can recover it
[06:41] <wgrant> (you'll see the error if you try a fresh branch of lp:sudoku-app)
[06:42] <dpm> wgrant, excellent, thanks. If it's not recoverable, I do have a copy at https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/+junk/sudoku-app-backup. If it helps diagnosing, the last activity I saw on the branch was https://code.launchpad.net/~dinko-metalac/sudoku-app/trunk/+merge/169615
[06:43] <wgrant> That MP doesn't seem to exist
[06:43] <wgrant> Which is a little worrying
[06:45] <dpm> Yeah, I noticed that, I couldn't understand why, but I got the merge e-mail.
[06:46] <wgrant> Sounds like the owner has been doing some odd things to it
[06:49] <dpm> yeah, that's what I thought, but I couldn't figure out what. Do you think the easiest thing to recover might be to just push the backup branch to https://code.launchpad.net/~sudoku-touch-dev/sudoku-app/trunk ?
[06:50] <StevenK> dpm: You can get the merge e-mail, but then get not found if the owner deletes it
[06:52] <dpm> yeah, something odd happened in there. The diff I got on the e-mail was 0 bytes
[06:54] <wgrant> dpm: I think http://paste.ubuntu.com/5773139/ should fix it
[06:55] <wgrant> Someone with write access to lp:sudoku-app needs to run that in Python
[06:56] <dpm> on it
[06:58] <dpm> wgrant, I'm getting this after running the script: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5773152/
[06:59] <wgrant> Oh bah
[06:59] <wgrant> dpm: What if you add ignore_fallbacks=True to the Branch.open call?
[06:59]  * dpm tries
[07:03] <dpm> wgrant, is this what you meant? It seems it's not taking that argument:
[07:03] <dpm> Traceback (most recent call last):
[07:03] <dpm>   File "./fixbranch.py", line 13, in <module>
[07:03] <dpm>     branch = Branch.open('lp:sudoku-app', ignore_fallbacks=True)
[07:03] <dpm> TypeError: open() got an unexpected keyword argument 'ignore_fallbacks'
[07:04] <wgrant> dpm: Yeah, that's what I meant, but I was wrong. Manual solution: 'lftp sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/sudoku-app', 'edit .bzr/branch/branch.conf', remove the stacked_on_url line, save and exit
[07:08] <dpm> wgrant, hm, it seems I don't have permissions to edit branch.conf
[07:10] <wgrant> dpm: What's the error message?
[07:11] <wgrant> You might need to have EDITOR set in your environment
[07:12] <dpm> wgrant, the error: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5773187/, ok, let me check EDITOR
[07:12] <wgrant> dpm: Yeah, that error looks like you don't have EDITOR set, so it ends up trying to run a temporary file, rather than edit the temporary file
[07:15] <dpm> wgrant, ok, that did it. I could remove the "stacked_on_location" line. Anything else I need to do?
[07:15] <wgrant> dpm: No, that should fix it
[07:15] <wgrant> Yep, works fine
[07:16] <wgrant> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sudoku-touch-dev/sudoku-app/trunk/files
[07:16] <dpm> wgrant, perfect, thanks!
[07:16] <wgrant> np
[07:18] <dpm> wgrant, another question: I set up a git import yesterday. The initial import was fine, but new git revisions after the import seem to got get into Launchpad. Any ideas why? https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/qzxing/master
[07:18] <dpm> I meant 'seem *not to get into Launchpad', sorry
[07:18] <wgrant> github?
[07:18] <wgrant> Yes
[07:18] <wgrant> Fixing
[07:19] <wgrant> dpm: https:// github URLs don't work properly after the initial import atm. I'll fix it to use git://
[07:19] <dpm> wgrant, ah, good to know. Thanks!
[11:11] <DamienCassou> hi
[11:11] <DamienCassou> I got a very strange error from PPA. It looks like it is a problem from the infrastructure and not me: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/142638294/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-i386.pharo-vm_2013.06.12-1~ppa1~precise1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[12:29] <StevenK> DamienCassou: Quite. If you link me the build, I've give it a retry
[12:31] <DamienCassou> StevenK: I clicked on "Retry this build" and it worked
[12:31] <DamienCassou> so I guess it was a temporary problem of the infrastructure
[12:31] <DamienCassou> I can send you the files if you want, for sure. Just tell me what you want exactly.
[12:34] <StevenK> DamienCassou: If you've retried and it worked, that's excellent -- that was what I was offering.
[12:36] <DamienCassou> StevenK: but that doesn't explain why it failed the first time. See my message more as a bug report for you than a request for help :-)
[12:41] <StevenK> DamienCassou: Right, but I can't see which machine that was, and if you've retried the build, the build can't tell us either
[12:41] <wgrant> It was chindi07
[13:38] <mibofra> hi guys :)
[13:38] <mibofra> I've to ask something strange : https://launchpadlibrarian.net/142653142/buildlog.txt.gz
[13:39] <mibofra> it isn't a compile error but it stop the build
[13:39] <mibofra> *stops
[15:13] <smartboyhw> Hello Launchpad des
[15:13] <smartboyhw> *devs
[15:13] <smartboyhw> we are having some strange build issues for amd64 ppas
[15:14] <smartboyhw> It failed with a .sbuildrc error
[15:14] <smartboyhw> Unrecognized character \xC0 at /home/buildd/.sbuildrc line 1.
[20:19] <yofel> Hi, could someone take a look at hamsa (buildd), several builds failed on it with '/home/buildd/.sbuildrc did not return a true value at /usr/bin/sbuild line 488.'
[20:19] <Quintasan> What ^ said
[23:57] <guillcote> I have been having timeout error for several hours
[23:57] <guillcote> What the best way to send it to you
[23:57] <guillcote>          (Error ID:         OOPS-d9e0a1a783c858be2874098d47120ccc)
[23:58] <czajkowski> guillcote: what are you doing to get it
[23:58] <czajkowski> wgrant: ^
[23:59] <guillcote> Trying to request support


[00:23] <bdmurray> ogasawara: is this a kernel crash? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/24664263/DSC00353.JPG
[00:23] <ogasawara> bdmurray: looks like it
[00:24] <ogasawara> bdmurray: don't suppose you caught the begnning of that
[00:24] <bdmurray> I wasn't sure if it was usplash related or not
[00:24] <bdmurray> its not mine its bug 353658
[00:26] <BUGabundo> ogasawara: is it possible to increase the VGA size on TTY to get a longer pic of a trace back on shutdown?
[00:26] <BUGabundo> I'm getting one 60% of the time
[00:26] <BUGabundo> it usually happens when I disable wifi (intel 4965) via NM
[00:27] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: setfont /usr/share/consolefonts/Uni1-VGA8.psf.gz
[00:28] <BUGabundo> ogasawara: Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[00:30] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: are you in a virtual terminal?
[00:30] <BUGabundo> no
[00:30] <BUGabundo> but I will now
[00:31] <BUGabundo> done
[00:31] <BUGabundo> will try to shutdown and get a traceback and a pic of it
[00:32]  * BUGabundo thinks this stuff should be logged
[00:36] <sbeattie> BUGabundo: boot with a vesa mode on the command line: add vga=0x317 (to get 1024x768) or vga=0x31a (to get 1280x1024) and with splash and quiet disabled.
[00:37] <sbeattie> BUGabundo: hard to log if syslogd and klogd have already shutdown.
[00:37] <BUGabundo> sbeattie: haven't touch vga paramt since gutsy broke it ! lol guess I should try it again
[00:38] <BUGabundo> there used to be a command to see the proper VGA size for my screen
[00:38] <BUGabundo> anyone remembers what is it?
[00:38] <sbeattie> xrandr will show you what x currently thinks it is.
[00:39] <BUGabundo> not that
[00:39] <BUGabundo> that table of vga output to place in the kernel mode
[00:39] <sbeattie> you can do vga=ask on the kernel boot line to let it scan what modes it supports.
[00:41] <BUGabundo> ahhh nice
[00:41] <BUGabundo> but I wish I remember how I used to do it
[00:41] <BUGabundo> it was so easy
[04:21]  * Lord_Ahriman is away (.)
[06:48] <YoBoY> good morning
[07:02] <thekorn> good morning YoBoY
[07:07] <dholbach> good morning
[07:13] <YoBoY> hi thekorn, good morning dholbach
[07:14] <thekorn> good morning dholbach
[07:14] <dholbach> hi thekorn, hi YoBoY
[15:06] <primes2h> bdmurray: Hello, did you read my email?
[15:08] <primes2h> bdmurray: sorry for late in responding.
[15:09] <bddebian> Boo
[15:10] <primes2h> bdmurray:  BTW, about gutsy EOL thing, I figured out that status "won't fix" can't be set anymore if you are not in the ubuntu-bug-control team.
[15:20] <lwfa> hi, I have been working on a bug, and have found that a patch that fixes it has been released upstream. This won't be included now until the next release cycle. What should I set the status of the bug report to? 'Fix comitted' or 'Fix released', is there a 'Fixed upstream' option hidden somewhere?
[15:22] <lwfa> oops, should have looked at the wiki first. Looks like this should come under 'Fix released' is that correct?
[15:22] <james_w> "Fix Released" is when it is fixed in Ubuntu, so it won't be that
[15:25] <lwfa> the wiki says: If a bug is fixed in the current development branch, that is good enough for Fix Released. If the bug also needs to be fixed in a stable release, use the "Target to release" link to nominate it for that release.
[15:25] <lwfa> so the question I guess is whether the upstream patch has made it into Karmic yet or not
[15:25] <james_w> Karmic doesn't exist yet, so it won't have
[15:28] <lwfa> right, so the wiki also says: For a bug task about an upstream project: the fix is in CVS/SVN/bzr or committed to some place
[15:28] <lwfa> for 'fix committed'
[15:28] <jcastro> lwfa: if you link the upstream bug to the ubuntu bug then the bug watch will mark the upstream bug as fix committed
[15:29] <jcastro> and the ubuntu bug will then still be Confirmed or Triaged or whatever
[15:29] <lwfa> unfortunately this is a bug in vim, and I don't think there's a bug tracker for vim AFAIK it seems that there are just patches sent to a mailing list
[15:29] <jcastro> right
[15:30] <jcastro> but you can tell it "I sent a patch to the mailing list" or something
[15:30] <lwfa> yeah I could do that, and leave the status as 'Confirmed'?
[15:30] <jcastro> right
[15:31] <jcastro> and since there's no bug tracker or you might just want to link to the mailing list post in a comment or something for reference
[15:32] <lwfa> ok, I'll do that, thanks for the help, I'm quite new to bug triaging
[15:32] <jcastro> lwfa: the wiki is talking about the project's upstream task
[15:32] <jcastro> it's ok, it's confusing
[15:32] <jcastro> so basically, it's fix committed in "vim", but not in "vim (Ubuntu)"
[15:32] <lwfa> ok
[15:45] <lwfa> ok, so I've updated the bug report. It was initially reported under vim-latexsuite as it affects that package, so I've added vim (ubuntu) as well. Would someone mind quickly having a look at the bug and letting me know if there's anything else I need to do? Mainly just as an exercise so I can learn more about triaging? It's #42283 on launchpad. Thanks.
[15:47] <james_w> bug #42283
[15:48] <lwfa> ooh cool
[15:49] <james_w> lwfa: looks pretty good to me, I set it to Triaged for you
[15:50] <james_w> does anything need to change in vim-latexsuite to make it work?
[15:52] <lwfa> one of my comments described a workaround which would require the user to put a line in their .vimrc
[15:52] <lwfa> a workaround could be coded into vim-latexsuite I suppose, but by the time that is released the fix for vim will also have been released
[15:56] <james_w> ok
[15:56] <james_w> so please mark the "vim-latexsuite (Ubuntu)" task as Invalid, as nothing needs to be done there
[15:56] <lwfa> ok will do
[15:59] <lwfa> well back to real work, thanks for the help
[16:36] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi there, I am going crazy, what is the way to add a remote bug watch to bug #67785 which already has one?
[16:38] <Le-Chuck_ITA> If I say please? :)
[16:39] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I have to paste the link and close my browser!
[16:40] <james_w> Le-Chuck_ITA: what link do you want to add?
[16:40] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I want to add http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=381132 as an upstream bug
[16:40] <Le-Chuck_ITA> but I can only add "also affects project" or "also affects distribution". In both cases it's not what I want
[16:42] <james_w> why is that different to http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364729 ?
[16:43] <james_w> ah, suspected duplicate
[16:44] <james_w> if you click the arrow on the left of "gnome-bugs #364729"
[16:44] <james_w> then there is a URL box
[16:44] <james_w> and also just above it there is a radio button for selecting the bug you want anyway
[16:44] <james_w> just select that and click "Save Changes"
[16:45] <Le-Chuck_ITA> james_w: I don't know why they are different, that's why I want to link both :)
[16:45] <james_w> well, you can only link one
[16:46] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Then the other one seems better, but I commented with the link in the bug report.
[16:46] <Le-Chuck_ITA> On launchpad I mean. So I leave the decision to other subscribers :)
[16:46] <Le-Chuck_ITA> thanks james_w
[16:49] <james_w> thanks Le-Chuck_ITA
[20:28] <iso50> How to I report a bug with Ubuntu?
[20:30] <bdmurray> iso50: What application is the bug about?
[20:33] <iso50> The problem is my sound card stops working after a say in the 32bit version, but works fine in the 64bit version (8,10)
[20:33] <iso50> after a day*
[20:35] <bdmurray> iso50: you should review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems then
[20:35] <primes2h> bdmurray: Hello, did you see my email? sorry for late in responding...
[20:35] <bdmurray> primes2h: The bug control one?
[20:35] <primes2h> bdmurray: about gutsy EOL thing, I saw I can't set it as "Won't fix".
[20:35] <primes2h> bdmurray: yes
[20:36] <iso50> bdmurray: been though that
[20:36] <bdmurray> iso50: well, it says how to report sound bugs there
[20:37] <primes2h> bdmurray: It can be done in ubuntu bug control team, isn't it?
[20:37] <bdmurray> primes2h: yes, it can be set by that team
[20:37] <iso50> bdmurray: I will as soon as I get my launchpad login info
[20:38] <iso50> unless 9.04 fixes it of course :-)
[20:38] <bdmurray> iso50: it'd be good test with 9.04
[20:39] <iso50> just seems strange the 64 bit version has no issues yet the 32 bit version does
[20:39] <bdmurray> primes2h: I approved your e-mail but don't see it in the bug control archive now, could you resend it?
[20:40] <primes2h> bdmurray: do you mean I have to join it again?
[20:41] <primes2h> bdmurray: or you need my previous email?
[20:43] <bdmurray> primes2h: Didn't you send your application in this morning?
[20:45] <primes2h> I join the team (waiting for approval) last year and today I replied to your email about joining the team. Do I have to rejoin the team or resend the email?
[20:45] <primes2h> bdmurray: s/join/joined
[20:45] <bdmurray> primes2h: please resend the e-mail
[20:48] <primes2h> bdmurray: done.
[20:52] <primes2h> bdmurray: sorry for misunderstanding, I thought you couldn't find my email address in my joining request on launchpad
[21:19] <savvas> has anyone noticed a bug about "disappearing backgrounds" that windows that go transparent?
[21:19] <savvas> *and windows
[21:23] <maxb> savvas: Yes, it usually affects gnome-terminal for me
[21:23] <maxb> Unfortunately I've no idea what might be causing it, so I've not filed a bug
[21:24] <savvas> maxb: same here, with irssi + screen :)
[21:24] <maxb> I suppose I should try switching from nvidia to nv or nouveau, and seeing if the problem goes away
[21:24] <savvas> I found another user though, with qt4 applications and kwin that seem to be causing this a lot more
[21:24] <maxb> Unfortunately I can't reproduce it on demand, which makes it a real pain
[21:25] <savvas> same here :P
[21:26] <savvas> I kind of dislike quassel right now, I need my scripting! :) brb from irssi
[21:28] <savvas> much better :)
[21:30] <primes2h> bdmurray: I forwarded the email at your @ubuntu.com address. This morning I just replied to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Have you received it now?
[21:30] <bdmurray> primes2h: yes, I have it now


[01:29] <mparillo> If you are in a big hurry for Plasma 5.23.3, I would keep an eye on https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma
[03:35] <magic_ninja> 21.10 gets Plasma 5.25 with backports and works like a charm. I wish I could try Wayland out, though. My multiple monitor setup doesn't work right.
[03:45] <magic_ninja> is there any way to catch csgo when it starts up? I was looking at how it disables and then reenables the compositor. I was wanting to do something like that but with a command to set my gpu to performance mode, then back to auto when I close it.
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[07:18] <lordievader> Good morning
[13:40] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[15:30] <R13ose> 21.10 - When I try to run mysql in the command line, it asks for the root password but I don't know what that is.  How do I view the password or change this?
[15:33] <R13ose> Mysql isn't actually starting as when I do sudo systemctl status mysql.service, it says Active: active (exited).
[17:26] <TendingArrow> Is there a way to slow down the scrolling speed?
[18:38] <erdincsenturker> Türk var mı
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[21:49] <irwie> hello
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[00:53] <jmoore> hello fellow ohio&&ubuntu people
[00:54] <belkinsa> Hello there, jmoore.
[00:55] <jmoore> i just found out about irc.. i am really loving linux, but ubuntu is my stuff.. anyone in ohio into any ubuntu developing?
[00:56] <belkinsa> I can name one of our members that does it and he is jrgifford.  I don't know of others.  You can ask the mailing list if you have signed the Code of Conduct of Ubuntu.
[00:57] <belkinsa> jmoore, I am going to warn you that we are quite scattered and on the inactive side also.
[00:58] <belkinsa> But you should stick around and even lurk around.  Using a IRC client like X-Chat allows you to lurk around without using your web browser.
[01:01] <belkinsa> And you can ask this guy too: https://launchpad.net/~damiencalloway  He doesn't come to the channel.
[01:01] <jenni> [ Damien Calloway in Launchpad ] - https://j.mp/1kKnRNp
[01:07] <jmoore> lol.. i am all about lurking somewhere i can find people using ubuntu and c and c ++
[01:07] <belkinsa> Have you check the Ubuntu Developers channels?
[01:08] <jmoore> i am in the process i guess you would say. this is great.. i was really getting tired of people on the internet.. then i started using linux.
[01:09] <belkinsa> What do you mean?
[01:09] <belkinsa> Is it the whole different sense of community that you are feeling?
[01:10] <jmoore> totally.. windows is for porn junkies.. i wanted to learn programming.. i started using ubuntu during the 12.04 days and have never went back
[01:11] <jmoore> ubuntu is like bbq sauce and my hardware like chicken.."i put that shit on everything" lol
[01:11] <belkinsa> I have almost the same story as you but with just a sense of community as a whole.
[01:12] <belkinsa> Are you aware that we have a LaunchPad team that you can join?
[01:12] <jmoore> well of course.. i was trying to find help with spercifics.. but the linux community is very helpful all around.. which has made my experience here more in depth than my windows days
[01:12] <belkinsa> And besides you need a LaunchPad account to help other developers to improve Ubuntu and other apps within Ubuntu.
[01:13] <jmoore> hmm.. i need a launch pad account and to sign the ubuntu code of conduct
[01:14] <belkinsa> It's not that hard.
[01:15] <belkinsa> And another useful link is https://wiki.ubuntu.com it's the home page of the wiki and I think you can find what you need there.  Mainly on the teams page.
[01:15] <jenni> [ Home - Ubuntu Wiki ] - https://j.mp/1kKreE0
[01:15] <belkinsa> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/teams is the link, I believe.
[01:21] <belkinsa> Once you are done with joining and signing, I will tell skellat that you requested to be approved.
[01:27] <jmoore> haha thank you!
[01:27] <belkinsa> Not a problem.
[01:27] <jmoore> i was trying to help someone do this proof.. it is crazy.
[01:32] <jmoore> wow, there are a lot of teams.  i really feel like ubuntu is going to be the linux distro that becomes the curtains to windows..
[12:33] <belkinsa> I think I scared off him.


[00:07] <Neo31> re
[00:10] <Neo31> ahla DaddouE
[00:10] <Neo31> ahla khaledmmn
[00:10] <Neo31> :)
[00:12] <khaledmmn> ahla neo
[00:12] <aldi-le-roi> neo 3310 hello
[00:13] <DaddouE> Hey
[00:13] <DaddouE> hhhhh
[00:13] <DaddouE> 3310 :p
[00:13] <khaledmmn> nokia :p
[00:13] <DaddouE> you missed it neo tonight :p
[00:24] <Neo31> aldi-le-roi!!???
[00:26] <aldi-le-roi> neo31 ;)
[00:27] <Neo31> :-|
[06:11] <MaWaLe> ping Wahid-TN
[06:47] <MaWaLe> mornin' Neo31
[06:49] <Neo31> mornin MaWaLe
[06:49] <MaWaLe> how'r u
[06:50] <MaWaLe> Neo31 : when will the UGJ begin
[06:51] <Neo31> it started yesterday @5pm
[06:53] <MaWaLe> Neo31 : so this morning there will be activities?
[06:53] <Neo31> through the night non stop
[06:54] <Neo31> the afternoon there will be some presentations
[06:54] <MaWaLe> Neo31 : and who will be there from this morning
[06:54] <MaWaLe> wahid?
[06:54] <MaWaLe> anis?
[06:54] <MaWaLe> can you PM me their phone number please
[08:07] <sana_> bnj :p
[10:09] <SalahMessaoud> ping elacheche_anis
[12:48] <DaddouE> Hey
[13:00] <Neo31> hi
[13:00] <Neo31> ahla DaddouE
[13:00] <Neo31> please type Neo31 to ping me on IRC
[13:00] <Neo31> :)
[13:00] <Neo31> how are you doing theere ?
[14:42] <DaddouE> Sorry new we were having lunch


[00:17] <muka> Would Meizu PRO 5 work on Tmobile US 3G or 4G network?
[00:19] <muka> and is it available in black or silver. I do not like gold color.
[00:21] <troyready> muka: I heard that the band support is not great for us t-mobile folks but I don't know specifics
[00:49] <swalladge> is it possible to change the keyboard layout to dvorak on ubuntu touch?
[02:03] <dobey> mariogrip: neat
[02:55] <troyready> swalladge:
[02:55] <troyready> swalladge: I don't think so
[02:55] <semajnz> You can for external keyboards
[02:55] <semajnz> Not the on-screen one
[03:46] <swalladge> semajnz: oh where would i look for settings on external keyboards?
[03:47] <semajnz> Uhh
[03:47] <swalladge> i couldn't find anything about changing layouts
[03:47] <swalladge> aha found it
[03:47] <swalladge> sorry
[03:48] <semajnz> System Settings -> Language & Text -> External Keyboard
[03:48] <semajnz> Only appears when you have an external keyboard connected
[03:53] <swalladge> hmm it doesn't seem to be changing the keymap on something like libreoffice
[03:54] <duflu> swalladge: Keymap changes for Xmir is something being fixed in OTA-11
[03:54] <duflu> coming soon
[03:54] <swalladge> ah cool
[03:56] <duflu> swalladge: I'm not too familiar with the subject myself. Can you confirm Touch's native apps handle it better?
[03:57] <swalladge> yep
[03:57] <duflu> swalladge: Cool thanks. You can track the issue here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1566487
[03:58] <swalladge> first time using a ubuntu touch device by the way - just got a M10 today :D
[03:58] <duflu> swalladge: I haven't tried the M10 myself but have been told OTA-11 will noticeably improve its performance too
[03:58] <duflu> I have seen the code changes, but not been able to try it for myself
[03:59] <swalladge> nice
[03:59] <swalladge> is there a roadmap or rss feed or something i can follow for info?
[04:00] <duflu> Let me see
[04:01] <duflu> swalladge: I can only recommend browse through: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch
[04:03] <swalladge> ok thanks :)
[04:04] <duflu> swalladge: There is also a public mailing list. You might have to join this team: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
[04:05] <duflu> Which is just a group for users. Not developers
[06:52] <swalladge> what exactly is developer mode on ubuntu touch? it has a pretty scary warning..
[06:55] <duflu> swalladge: Developer mode allows any computer with a USB connection to be used to log in and change things
[06:55] <duflu> via Android's 'adb' tool
[06:55] <duflu> Normally that's not allowed
[07:25] <ShR3K> Hi ! Is it possible to do this on ubuntu touch : https://thepcspy.com/read/converting-ubuntu-desktop-to-kiosk/
[07:26] <Oneuser> Hi all i need to change the sms center number on my e4.5 is there a way to do that on ubuntu phone?
[08:33] <zzarr> hello!
[08:33] <zzarr> will there be support for widgets on Ubuntu-Touch?
[08:34] <zzarr> I just thought of how nice it would be with a widget scope
[08:35] <zzarr> having a Dekko widget with mail, calendar widget and g+/fb/twitter or something
[08:39] <davmor2> zzarr: there already kinda is, on the today scope you can already see twitter feed, news, weather, upcoming event, last calls texts and telegrams etc
[08:39] <zzarr> okey, didn't know that
[08:49] <AuroraAvenue> mariogrip: ping
[09:25] <yang> what is the feedback on aquaris m10 ? is the interface working ?
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> yang: there are youtube reviews and unpacking video's to watch already
[09:38] <yang> ok i am gonna check those
[09:52] <jgdx> seb128, hey, did you see my email?
[09:52] <seb128> hey jgdx
[09:52] <seb128> jgdx, yeah, I just have that open in firefox
[09:52] <jgdx> cool
[09:53] <seb128> it doesn't make any sense to me why allowing the inactive session would lead to more auth to be requested
[09:53] <seb128> is that a regression?
[09:53] <seb128> in what serie?
[10:02] <jgdx> seb128, OTA10.1 so vivid+overlay which is probably the same as xenial
[10:12] <voobscout> Greetings, gentle beings! Can someone tell me how to modify fstab inside lxc-android container? I would like to mount /dev/mmcblk1p1 on /userdata, instead of the internal storage
[10:35] <mardy> tvoss: I resurrected https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/location-service/old-location-1551686/+merge/293075 , for when you have some time :-)
[11:05] <melvster> did someone say they ssh'd to their touch device?  if so, any hints on how?
[11:05] <melvster> (as opposed to adb)
[11:07] <melvster> oh sudo service start ssh ... that was easy! :)
[11:07] <melvster> and I just log in as phablet?
[11:09] <davmor2> melvster: it is better if you plug it into you ubuntu pc and type phablet-shell that will enable ssh and setup key exchanges and then you can just ssh to it's ip address from that machine
[11:11] <melvster> davmor2: thanks! I was using adb shell before but it sometimes gives me terminal problems, so I wanted to switch to ssh
[11:12] <melvster> getting more and more excited about ubuntu touch, just ordered my slimport hdmi adaptor and bluetooth keyboard to try out convergence
[11:15] <davmor2> melvster: what device do you have?
[11:15] <melvster> davmor2: nexus4 but i almost ordered an m10 ... however 10 day delivery to where I am and I may be on holiday by then
[11:16] <seb128> jgdx, sorry, was distracted by other work
[11:16] <davmor2> melvster: I was just checking that the slimport would work or not :) it does on the n4 :)
[11:16] <seb128> jgdx, did that ever work on the phone?
[11:16] <melvster> phew, yeah I watched a video and it said it the product description too ... but you never know till you try ...
[11:18] <ogra_> melvster, if you want it permanent: android-gadget-service enable ssh ... sudo service start ssh  is a one time thing (gone after reboot)
[11:18] <jgdx> seb128, yes
[11:27] <seb128> jgdx, how do you start it? my understanding is that it should work if you start it from the shell but not if you do it from adb/gdb
[11:27] <seb128> gdb->ssh
[11:29] <jgdx> seb128, the user reported seeing the auth failure in the system settings log, so that's the accountsservice plugin which uses dbus
[11:30] <seb128> jgdx, does he start settings from the dash?
[11:32] <seb128> jgdx, do you see the error on your device?
[11:36] <melvster> ogra_: thanks!
[11:36] <jgdx> seb128, no, and I think that clears it up
[11:36] <jgdx> I'll ask him how he starts system settings
[11:37] <seb128> k, keep me updated
[11:38] <jgdx> seb128, thx for clearing that up
[11:38] <seb128> yw!
[11:56] <matv1> kyleN ping
[12:35] <kyleN> hi matv1
[12:38] <matv1> oh hi kyleN
[12:38] <matv1> kyleN you may remember ogra_ and dobey pointed you out ysterday as the man to see about the songkick source code
[12:39] <matv1> the scope I mean
[12:39] <kyleN> matv1, well I may be able to help find it :)
[12:39] <kyleN> matv1, what is your interest?
[12:41] <matv1> disregarding the current problems with scopes and location, I love the concept of the songkick scope. But I thought it would be much more usefull when one is able to add locations manually instead of just your current physical location
[12:41] <matv1> I would thank that shouldnt be that heard to add
[12:44] <matv1> usecase: I am in my home in nymegen (netherlands) right now. But I know i am going to be in amsterdam tonight and want to see about gigs there. With the current scope, I cant do that until I actualy get there
[12:46] <matv1> thats about it. I was thinking If the scope wont allow user input that way (because of being scopey) I could maybe reuse most of the code to do an app that did have that feature
[12:52] <kyleN> matv1, just a minute
[12:53] <matv1> kyleN no rush at all :)
[12:54] <matv1> kyleN oh now I notice that the Scope is published as propriatery. What does that mean wrt community(which I guess is me) colaboration?
[12:56] <kyleN> matv1, the concept of picking and using a location to run a scope may have more general applicability. I was thinking for example about the timeout scope. of the Yelp scope.
[12:57] <matv1> kyleN ah well. that would make it even easier :)
[12:57] <kyleN> maybe we need a premade location-picker filter widget tha any scope can use
[12:58] <kyleN> matv1, the properiary thing is really just an artifact of history. let me explain.
[12:58] <kyleN> most scopes started in a  private launchpad project that was created very early on
[12:58] <kyleN> we are trying to move them into public projects though.
[12:59] <matv1> kyleN I see that is great to hear. As well as your idea of a general purpose location picker
[13:00] <kyleN> matv1, in order to raise this issue, perhaps I can ask your help.
[13:00] <matv1> I am not sure I could be of much help in that regard though. I assume it would it means developing a component right?
[13:00] <kyleN> matv1, can you file a bug against canonical-scopes-project that lists a few scopes that would benefit from a location picker
[13:01] <matv1> kyleN That I can certainly do yes
[13:01] <kyleN> I'll comment and add a task for design review
[13:02] <matv1> i will ping you when the lp bug is there. So no need to also do a bug against UX or UI ?
[13:02] <kyleN> you can add UX too if you want. if you don't I will
[13:03] <matv1> kyleN cool. I will notify you soon. Thanks a lot!
[13:04] <kyleN> awesome
[14:10] <EdwardMorbius> hello. I have a quick question about bluetooth file sharing with other phones, is that planned anytime soon?
[14:18] <pmcgowan> EdwardMorbius, we are working on it yes, not this next update but hopefully soon
[14:19] <ogra_> pmcgowan, didnt we have that working once ?
[14:19] <EdwardMorbius> pmcgowan so OTA-12 or beyond
[14:19] <pmcgowan> ogra_, from command line prolly
[14:19]  * ogra_ remembers rsalveti had ... when we seeded obex to the images ... must be ages ago though+
[14:19] <pmcgowan> yes
[14:19] <ogra_> ah, yeah, that could be
[14:20] <pmcgowan> the daemon is in there now
[14:20] <pmcgowan> we use it for car phonebook
[14:20] <pmcgowan> just need ui now
[14:20] <ogra_> ah
[14:20] <rsalveti> yeah, it was working, just not exposed in the ui
[14:20] <pmcgowan> hey a voice from the past
[14:20]  * ogra_ finally ordered a turbo ...
[14:20] <EdwardMorbius> thanks for the information :)
[14:20] <rsalveti> pmcgowan: o/
[14:21] <ogra_> only took three days :P
[14:21] <ogra_> silly broken store
[14:22] <matv1> ogra_ is there a choice of color now?
[14:22] <ogra_> gold, gold and .... gold
[14:22] <ogra_> :(
[14:23] <ogra_> but at least ordering from germany finally works
[14:23] <ogra_> without "the store is busy now" messages
[14:25] <matv1> ogra_ cool i am still thinking about it. golden doesnt increase attractivity for me
[14:25] <matv1> the days when i thought a gold phone would turn me into james  bond are well behind me now :)
[14:25] <ogra_> you could get some rainbow earrings and a scarf along with it ... then it doesnt stand out so much :P
[14:25] <matv1> hahaha
[14:26] <matv1> but my second nexus 4 is also on its last legs so i need something
[14:27] <ogra_> i'm pretty sure it is an awesome device ... perhaps one can paint it or some such
[14:28] <matv1> ogra_ yes i just have some doubts about miracast. even if it does materialize. wont it always be soemwhat laggy :( ??
[14:28] <ogra_> i dont plan to use it
[14:28] <ogra_> i got an M10 for such stuff
[14:28] <matv1> ogra_ aarrrgh
[14:29] <matv1> you dont carry your m10 around all the time do you?
[14:29]  * ogra_ cant belive that "painting cellphone" only revelas DYI guides
[14:29] <ogra_> there must be companies that offer this
[14:30] <ogra_> *DIY
[14:30] <dobey> heh
[14:30] <matv1> i am going to set one up. just for meizu pro 5 and just orange
[14:30] <matv1> i will be rich!
[14:30] <dobey> "you can have any color phone you like, so long as you like gold"
[14:31] <matv1> question: could anyone imagine going back to android ? i cant really. i keep making so many geasture mistakes when i use android lately
[14:32] <ogra_> i havent touched android in over a year now
[14:32] <dobey> android 6 totally killed contacts privacy
[14:33] <Smurphy> I'll be receiving one for work. We need OTP generator for work. Won't run on ubuntu-touch :(
[14:33] <dobey> Smurphy: google authenticator?
[14:33] <Smurphy> dobey: No. Company own stuff. They have it foir Android, IOS and Windows phone :(
[14:33] <Smurphy> Hate it.
[14:34] <dobey> oh
[14:34] <dobey> write an app for ubuntu for it :)
[14:34] <Smurphy> I'll see if I can install at least cyanogen-mod on the Galaxy S7 - if not, there will be only work stuff on it.
[14:34] <dobey> or submit a patch to the authenticator app
[14:34] <Smurphy> I'm not that good at writing OO code. I am good with C or PHP scripting, but all the OO stuff - I simply never understood the advantage of it.
[14:35] <Smurphy> It makes code unreadable and complex - best part for security issues and code injections no one will ever find out but looking at the code.
[14:35] <dobey> not really, but *shrug*
[14:36] <Smurphy> yeah *shrug*
[14:36] <Smurphy> I got a BQ 4.5 - and use it work work and private use (2 SIM Cards). Will have to change that.
[14:37] <matv1> Smurphy thats a drag. going  back to carying around 2 phones
[14:37] <Smurphy> matv1: Well - I look at it from the bright side. I work almost all the time from home. So it's fine. I just leave the work-phone here.
[14:38] <Smurphy> Or - anyone here thought about porting ubunt-touch to the Samsung Galaxy 7S ? :D
[14:43] <matv1> at least the  Samsung Galaxy 7S is available gold AND pink-gold.. AWSUMM
[14:44] <Smurphy> I have no idea which version they ordered me.
[14:44] <Smurphy> But I bet if I receive the PInk version, my daughters will fight for it *rofl*
[14:44] <matv1> heh
[15:02] <linmob> EdwardMorbius: There is an app for bluetooth file sharing in OpenStore
[15:35] <bluenemo> hi guys. I bought a aquaris e5 with ubuntu some time ago. When I receive SMS, the display starts turning on and off making it impossible to read the sms. It is not possible to reliably interrupt the flashing. How do I disable flashing screen on new messages
[16:27] <johnthedoe> Hi there, I have a problem with the music app
[16:28] <johnthedoe> it crashes right after I open it, and I can't find any log file for it
[16:28] <ogra_> logs should be in ~/.cache/upstart/
[16:30] <johnthedoe> ls ~/.cache/upstart | grep music outputs nothing
[16:30] <johnthedoe> ota 10.1, bq e4.5
[16:32] <johnthedoe> any clue ogra_?
[16:33] <ogra_> not really, no
[16:37] <dobey> johnthedoe: is there a crash file in /var/crash/ for it?
[16:37] <johnthedoe> checking
[16:38] <johnthedoe> that directory is empty
[16:40] <johnthedoe> dobey ^
[16:47] <dobey> ah, doh
[16:52] <bluenemo> nobody got an idea how to disable the flashing screen on new messages?
[16:52] <ogra_> sounds like a bug ... are you up to date with the latest OTA ?
[21:45] <saavento> Working on the road just with the M10
[21:45] <saavento> let's see!
[22:06] <ogra_> brave :)
[22:09] <dan_> hello?
[22:10] <dan_> does ubuntu touch work for nexus 7 tablet?
[22:22] <dobey> Guest61720: which nexus 7 tablet?
[22:30] <Guest61720> private msg me dobey.
[22:30] <Guest61720> :)
[22:30] <dobey> no :)
[22:31] <dobey> nexus 7 2012 (grouper) is not supported. nexus 7 2013 wifi (flo) has images available on the official image server, and nexus 7 2013 lte (deb) has images available on ubports server
[23:21] <mariogrip> arrr, code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com is down....


[23:20] <minasota> cyberanger: interested in downloading weather images from NOAA... Using GPredict atm but no antenna or conversion software. Any recommendations on hardware?
[23:21] <minasota> The cheaper the better :)


[00:38] <smoser> blackboxsw: there?
[00:59] <smoser> blackboxsw: i approved https://code.launchpad.net/~chad.smith/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/347937
[00:59] <smoser> feel free to land.
[00:59] <smoser> and if you review mine https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/348005 feel free to approve and land.
[00:59] <smoser> or rharper . or give feed back and i can fix
[00:59] <smoser> i'd like to have an upload maybe tomorrow or something to get an image with this in it by monday
[00:59]  * smoser goes afk for a bit
[01:31] <blackboxsw> smoser: yeah kiddo bed time. I had to fix xenial against my branch
[01:31] <blackboxsw> mismanaged unit test mock once I switched to get_proc_env
[01:32] <blackboxsw> unit tests passing landing now after a test run
[01:33] <blackboxsw> running a couple integration tests on your branch and will cut a cosmic mp
[01:59] <blackboxsw> ok landing https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/348005 now
[02:00] <blackboxsw> just waiting on review-mps
[02:07] <blackboxsw> https://code.launchpad.net/~chad.smith/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/348113 posted for cosmic release
[02:07] <blackboxsw> for rev 18.2-77-g4ce67201-0ubuntu1
[02:07] <blackboxsw> linked to card https://trello.com/c/LvsbD0Qe/839-cosmic-upload-release
[02:08] <blackboxsw> ok I'm outta here
[02:08] <blackboxsw> deb built fine on my end
[15:36] <smoser> hm..
[15:36] <smoser> how is
[15:36] <smoser>  https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/view/cloud-init,%20curtin,%20streams/job/cloud-init-integration-nocloud-kvm-c/31/consoleFull passing
[15:36] <smoser> it ran with 18.2-1890-gfaa6f07-0ubuntu1+1614~trunk~ubuntu18.04.1
[15:37] <smoser> and TestLxdBridge test passed... how did it do that ?
[15:38] <smoser> blackboxsw, rharper, powersj food for thought.
[15:38] <smoser> oh. thats why...
[15:38] <smoser>  https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/view/cloud-init,%20curtin,%20streams/job/cloud-init-integration-nocloud-kvm-c/31/artifact/cloud-init/results/nocloud-kvm/bionic/
[15:38] <smoser> icloud-init-integration-nocloud-kvm-c actually runs bionic
[15:46] <smoser> hm...
[15:46] <smoser> powersj. i tried to fix that with
[15:46] <smoser>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RCpQRWwWFW/
[15:46] <smoser> and submitted a pull request
[15:46] <smoser>  https://github.com/canonical-server/jenkins-jobs/compare/master...smoser:fix/nocloud-kvm-c-use-cosmic?expand=1
[15:46] <smoser> but it says
[15:46] <smoser> "This repository has been archived by the owner. It is now read-only."
[16:12] <powersj> smoser: new repo is at https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/server-jenkins-jobs
[16:12] <smoser> ah.ok.
[16:12] <powersj> I have updated it with your patch
[16:13] <smoser> k. thanks
[16:13] <powersj> thank you for looking at it :)
[16:15] <smoser> yeah... kicked of a ec2-c build also.
[16:15] <smoser> i'll get an upload in tonight if both of those are green.
[16:31] <smoser> bah. more failure. unrelated to lxd. possibly is keyserver downtime.
[16:31] <smoser>  https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/view/cloud-init,%20curtin,%20streams/job/cloud-init-integration-lxd-c/35/console
[16:31] <smoser> so i'm build-and-pushing
[18:45] <Serim> TESTING TESTING
[18:52] <Serim> TESTING TESTING


[16:05] <mirzaei> i have aspire 5750 with nvidia vga and now i install nvidia-current_295.40-0ubuntu1_i386.deb but no cinnoment not log in and in gnome2d flash light not work
[16:06] <smartboyhw> mirzaei, wrong channel. #ubuntu is for support:)
[20:36] <Zic> Do you know what to do if I miss the automatic-mail generated by Launchpad which said "Renew your membership in ~ubuntumembers to prevent expire" and I am now expired?
[20:37] <Zic> (First: Hello guys, sorry.)
[20:39] <Fuchs> Hi :)
[20:39] <Fuchs> I assume prodding one of the IRCC people
[20:39] <IdleOne> Zic: what is your launchpad link?
[20:40] <Zic> https://launchpad.net/~zic
[20:40] <AlanBell> hi Zic
[20:40] <Zic> IdleOne: oh wait, it seems Iulan Undrea just reapproved me
[20:41] <Zic> (I sent a mail to administrator of the Launchpad team before I ask here for more informations.)
[20:41] <IdleOne> ah, ok :)
[20:41] <IdleOne> welcome back
[20:41] <AlanBell> yeah, looks like you are all good there
[20:42]  * Fuchs goes back to snoozemode
[20:43] <Zic> So, to auto-answer me: a simple mail to administrator's team... ;-)
[20:43] <Zic> Thanks for your help here anyway!
[20:43] <IdleOne> just got the email. I wanted to add someone to the members team :/
[20:44] <Zic> I need to whitelist this mails now, for the next time...


[04:14] <vincent_c> Noskcaj: (since you're no longer in #debian-python) I've uploaded convertall, but there are still a few minor things you can fix, e.g. lintian tag vcs-field-uses-insecure-uri
[04:14] <vincent_c> also latest standards version is 3.9.7, not 3.9.6
[09:36] <mitya57> sney, I have just filed gnome #764277 for this.
[09:37] <mitya57> Though gnome-menus is kindof abandoned upstream, so the chances to get it fixed are not that high