[12:13] <surabachi> any ideas on that intelikey
[12:14] <malix0> hi all is there some one interested on solving this bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/33840
[12:14] <intelikey> surabachi then the "install" is needed in that line "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kxdocker kxdocker-data "       yes we will finally get it
[12:15] <surabachi> ok thast working
[12:15] <intelikey> that should be a copy and paste command there   i think i even spelled it right.
[12:15] <surabachi> now lwts hope kxdocker works
[12:15] <intelikey> check the file for size
[12:15] <zorglu_> trying ktorrent 2.0, this stuff keeps asking me which file i want to download within a torrent, is there a way to avoid this ?
[12:16] <surabachi> intelikey: didnt work same error again i think: http://pastebin.ca/198328
[12:17] <intelikey> ls -s  /usr/share/apps/kxdocker/kxdocker_conf.xml
[12:17] <intelikey> still 0 bites ?
[12:17] <surabachi> mike@mike-desktop:~$ ls -s  /usr/share/apps/kxdocker/kxdocker_conf.xml
[12:17] <surabachi> 0 /usr/share/apps/kxdocker/kxdocker_conf.xml
[12:17] <surabachi> mike@mike-desktop:~$
[12:17] <surabachi> yes i guesse
[12:17] <intelikey> yep
[12:17] <intelikey> that package must be hosed.  report it.
[12:17] <VanessaE> evening
[12:18] <surabachi> intelikey: i tried the .tar but it also gave me the same error
[12:18] <surabachi> gtg
[12:18] <surabachi> bb in a bit
[12:19] <intelikey> ok i'm went.
[12:22] <visik7> kde 3.5.5 for dapper hasn't kdelibs-bin !! WTF ?
[12:25] <surabachi> intelikey: so no more ideas
[12:25] <lipe_pe> Hi people, i need to know, please, how can i work with cups. 'cause it needs a username and pass, and i just write root and the rootpass... and nothing .. it says that its wrong ... what should i do, please ... ???
[12:26] <lipe_pe> Hi people, i need to know, please, how can i work with cups. 'cause it needs a username and pass, and i just write root and the rootpass... and nothing .. it says that its wrong ... what should i do, please ... ???
[12:26] <VanessaE> please don't repeat
[12:26] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: sorry ...
[12:26] <VanessaE> (at least, not so quickly)
[12:26] <lipe_pe> :) ok  sorry again
[12:27] <VanessaE> have you looked at /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to make sure you can actually "log in"?
[12:27] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: lemme see it, 1 min please
[12:27] <VanessaE> and your 'rootpass' is a true root password or is it just your user password?
[12:28] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: its my true pass ...
[12:28] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: its my true root pass
[12:29] <VanessaE> ok
[12:29] <VanessaE> I ask because as you may know, ubuntu does not have a proper 'root' account by default, and hence no root passwd
[12:29] <VanessaE> (security reasons)
[12:29] <lipe_pe> humm
[12:30] <lipe_pe> look, i was using debian, and i installed kubuntu today
[12:30] <VanessaE> ok
[12:30] <lipe_pe> i just can log with su now
[12:30] <lipe_pe> when i type su ...
[12:30] <lipe_pe> i can log as root
[12:30] <BonBonTheJon> how do I force 'mv -i' to answer no to all
[12:30] <lipe_pe> is it right ? is this pass that i'm using in su is the real root pass ??
[12:31] <VanessaE> lipe: traditionally, yes.
[12:32] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: ok ... look, when i'm adding a printer, in the end it asks me a username and pass ... what should i do ?
[12:32] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: someday i just added a user and typed there and it worked
[12:32] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: but i don't remember which command was that ...
[12:33] <VanessaE> well you're doing it "right" but now that i think of it, there IS a setting you have to fix to let root log into cups
[12:33] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: and i don't know if it works in kubuntu ...
[12:33] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: in cupsd.conf ?!
[12:33] <VanessaE> checking
[12:34] <VanessaE> it's been a while, I have to find the page again
[12:34] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: thx u veeery much !
[12:35] <BonBonTheJon> any ideas on 'mv -i', looks like --reply=no is depreciated
[12:37] <zorglu_> BonBonTheJon: tried '-f' ?
[12:38] <VanessaE> try adding the username "cupsys"  to the "shadow" group in /etc/group
[12:38] <VanessaE> that sounds like what I first did
[12:38] <grasshopper> am i right that Kubuntu doesn't come with a Mail client by default?
[12:38] <VanessaE> grasshopper: it does - kmail
[12:38] <grasshopper> VanessaE: i don't find it?
[12:38] <zorglu_> hidden in kontact i think
[12:38] <BonBonTheJon> zorglu_: does that answer yes, or no
[12:39] <zorglu_> BonBonTheJon: not an answer, a question
[12:39] <BonBonTheJon> zorglu_: is -f the same as --reply=yes
[12:39] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: hum
[12:39] <grasshopper> VanessaE: if it is normally there by default, what does it mean if it didnt' install on my installation?
[12:40] <VanessaE> it means I'm wrong :)
[12:40] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: thx u veery much, i'll try it now... 1 min please
[12:40] <VanessaE> lipe: you have to restart the machine for that change to work
[12:40] <VanessaE> (at least, restart X)
[12:40] <malix0> did some one else want to try this http://www.massimofidanza.it/firefox on Dapper or Edgy?
[12:40] <grasshopper> VanessaE: aha! so you presumed there is a default mail client. I had also figured it might be Kmail due to it being kde, but i really don't see it
[12:41] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: Ok... u know the command to do it ? i mean add a user to shadow ?!
[12:41] <VanessaE> lipe: vigr usually works
[12:41] <grasshopper> VanessaE: is Kmail what you use? Is it superior ot Thunderbird?
[12:41] <VanessaE> grasshopper: Yes, I use it, and IMHO it is better.
[12:41] <grasshopper> :o
[12:41] <VanessaE> strange though, I could swear my install came with kmail from the start..
[12:42] <zorglu_> grasshopper: type 'kmail' in a konsole
[12:42] <grasshopper> it would seem it should, but it aint here in my menu -strange
[12:42] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: so i'll use username: cupsys pass my pass ?!
[12:42] <BonBonTheJon> grasshopper: do you have kontact
[12:43] <grasshopper> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 154
[12:43] <VanessaE> hm, point of fact it's not in my menus either.
[12:43] <VanessaE> lipe: no
[12:43] <VanessaE> brb
[12:43] <jose__> hola
[12:43] <Digital_Pioneer> How do I access the Bootsplash and KDE splash screen settings?
[12:43] <jose__> estoy liado con linux perdon
[12:43] <zorglu_> VanessaE: as i remember it, kmail is installed by default, but isnt in the menu. luanchable by konsole tho
[12:43] <zorglu_> !es
[12:43] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:44] <zorglu_> !uplash
[12:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:44] <BonBonTheJon> !usplash
[12:44] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[12:44] <VanessaE> zorglu:  right, that must have been my case too then
[12:44] <jose__> sig liado pero si nadie ma ayuda es peor
[12:44] <Digital_Pioneer> I tried running usplash from Konsole. It made my colors screw up.
[12:44] <zorglu_> Digital_Pioneer: something called 'usplash' is the bootplash. this page explains how to change it
[12:44] <zorglu_> !es > jose__
[12:45] <VanessaE> lipe: rather..  when you run vigr it should show you your /etc/groups file.  Look for "shadow" and add the word "cupsys" to the end of the line.  If you browse the file, you'll see other entries with a similar form.
[12:45] <grasshopper> zorglu_: do you know if i tick ssl (secure connection); and do i tick local delivery?
[12:45] <zorglu_> grasshopper: no idea of what you are talking about
[12:46] <grasshopper> zorglu_: talking about Kmail configuration
[12:46] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: What about KDE splash?
[12:46] <VanessaE> grasshopper: only use the SSL feature if your mail server supports it (e.g. Gmail), and no, you don't want local delivery
[12:46] <grasshopper> VanessaE: thx! :)
[12:46] <zorglu_> Digital_Pioneer: hmm this one is more usual. i think there are ooption in kde itself
[12:46] <LeeJunFan> !ndiswrapper > LeeJunFan
[12:47] <zorglu_> Digital_Pioneer: i remember this is tunnable by theme
[12:47] <zorglu_> Digital_Pioneer: now which blabal theme is it :)
[12:48] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: I just switched from Debian, which had it in the Appearance settings.
[12:48] <Digital_Pioneer> It isn't there in Kubuntu
[12:49] <VanessaE> speaking of splash screens, I must be the only Kubuntu user without a boot splash :)  (prolly because I prefer Lilo over grub)
[12:49] <zorglu_> Digital_Pioneer: hmm looked in kcontrol directly ?
[12:49] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: GAH! There it is... Odd...
[12:49] <zorglu_> Digital_Pioneer: yep it is there in kcontrol
[12:50] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: But... Then what's this thing in my K menu?
[12:50] <Digital_Pioneer> "System Settings"
[12:50] <zorglu_> Digital_Pioneer: nope, the 'system setting' from the menu needs to be simplify for beginer users
[12:50] <zorglu_> some simplified version
[12:51] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: Can I replace System Settings with KDE Control Center?
[12:51] <maxime_> i need automatix
[12:51] <maxime_> where download it ?
[12:51] <VanessaE> maybe what they should do, instead of having a launcher for a full config utility...perhaps just a configuration wizard instead, something where you can skip steps or quit early, like in Debian's text-mode install utility
[12:52] <zorglu_> Digital_Pioneer: yep, it is not really 2 distinct things, it is only a simplified and a complete view
[12:52] <VanessaE> (with a proper link to kcontrol somewhere in the menu where it belongs, for regular users who know what they're doing.
[12:52] <maxime_> where dowload automatix
[12:52] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: IC.
[12:52] <Sanne> zorglu_, Digital_Pioneer: there's also a panel applet for the control center, if you would like to have it on the panel.
[12:53] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: OK, thanks a ton!
[12:54] <zorglu_> np
[12:54] <grasshopper> VanessaE: i'm wondering how i can get Kmail on my Menu and taskbar?
[12:55] <VanessaE> livingdaylight/grasshopper: use the KDE Menu editor
[12:55] <LjL> livingdaylight: well, you could add it, but what's wrong with just using Kontact?
[12:56] <VanessaE> (right click on your panel -> Configure Panels -> Menus -> [Edit K Menu]  botton near the middle of the window)
[12:56] <VanessaE> eh, the options reads Configure Panel... sorry
[12:57] <livingdaylight> LjL: huh, i see! Kmail is part of the Kontact package?
[12:57] <LjL> livingdaylight: yeah, Kontact glues together KMail and some other apps
[12:57] <livingdaylight> LjL: thx alot man
[12:58] <LjL> but kontact *is* kmail. it just has kmail as a kpart
[12:58] <livingdaylight> hey, VanessaE, LjL just showed me how Kmail is part of the Kontact package, LOL, so it was there all along :)
[12:58] <Martijn81> yeah, i know ;)
[12:58] <Martijn81> i was just saying
[12:59] <VanessaE> well there you go :)  Shows how much I've played with stuff I don't regularly use :)
[12:59] <zorglu_> tsss tsss ktorrent download sequentially
[12:59] <livingdaylight> we learn everyday - the PowaH of KDE! Mwuahahaha
[12:59] <zorglu_> bouhh to it
[12:59] <LjL> well, nobody says you must not start kmail by itself though -- if you don't like the clutter that kontact adds...
[12:59] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: Hi again, it doesn't fixed the problem ...
[01:00] <VanessaE> lipe:  oh..  sorry :(
[01:00] <VanessaE> that's the best I can offer - can someone else help this guy out?
[01:00] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: don't u know another way to fix it ?
[01:00] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: thx u veeeeery much, anyway !
[01:00] <VanessaE> (enable root logins to cups, assuming a real root account already exists)
[01:00] <Martijn81> zorglu_: i know, someone did a good job with ktorrent the last days
[01:01] <zorglu_> Martijn81: you know the coders of it ?
[01:01] <Martijn81> zorglu_: a few, from online
[01:01] <livingdaylight> I have sun-jave-jre1.5 installed, but using Konqueror a site tells me that plugin is missing?
[01:01] <livingdaylight> do i have to configure?
[01:02] <zorglu_> Martijn81: on irc ?
[01:02] <Martijn81> nope, forums and mail mostly...
[01:02] <Martijn81> good guys really
[01:02] <zorglu_> Martijn81: ok, tell them they should do 'rarest first' that will increase the download speed
[01:03] <cpk2> does kmix ignore the alsamixer settings?
[01:03] <livingdaylight> anyone know where i have to point Konqueror to for the java folder?
[01:03] <zorglu_> Martijn81: and, this one is personnal, add an option to avoid the 'which file you want to download' withing this torrent each time i add one :)
[01:04] <Martijn81> zorglu_: i believe rarest first is what is done currently already, but i will message both :)
[01:04] <zorglu_> Mar
[01:05] <zorglu_> Martijn81: ok :) maybe it is only the stuff im looking which make it appears as sequential :) in anycase message them, they will discard if already done :)
[01:06] <Martijn81> ok no problem
[01:06] <Martijn81> already done
[01:07] <zorglu_> tx
[01:07] <rojanu> hi guys! i am trying to install kubuntu to a machine which has no cdrom & floppy. I have been trying to get it run on a usb pen, so far I have managed to get it run and ask for the language but then it says cdrom cannot be found
[01:08] <lipe_pe> someone can tell me how can i access cups ???
[01:08] <zorglu_> !netboot
[01:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:08] <zorglu_> roj
[01:08] <zorglu_> rojanu: look at the above links
[01:08] <livingdaylight> someone know exactly what i'm pointing Konqueror to for the java plugin?
[01:08] <rojanu> ok, thanks
[01:10] <lipe_pe> someone can tell me how can i know which username and pass i need to set in cups ?!?!?!
[01:11] <ubuntu__> i have a wierd problem
[01:12] <ubuntu__> there is no internet in kubuntu
[01:12] <ubuntu__> if i disconnect my hard drive there is
[01:12] <ubuntu__> does that mean something?
[01:13] <BonBonTheJon> ubuntu__: is this an external hard drive
[01:13] <lipe_pe> someone can tell me how can i know which username and pass i need to set in cups ?!?!?!
[01:14] <ubuntu__> no
[01:14] <ubuntu__> its my primary hard drive
[01:14] <BonBonTheJon> ubuntu__: are you shutting down before you disconnect it
[01:14] <ubuntu__> yes
[01:14] <livingdaylight> VanessaE: do you use java in Konqueror? i can't get executable
[01:14] <lipe_pe> someone can tell me how can i know which username and pass i need to set in cups ?!?!?!
[01:14] <VanessaE> I don't use konq, sorry
[01:14] <livingdaylight> VanessaE: pointing to /usr/lib/
[01:15] <livingdaylight> ok
[01:15] <livingdaylight> Anyone here use java in Konqueror?
[01:15] <livingdaylight> and know what version of java to install that works in Konqueror?
[01:15] <VanessaE> lipe: it seems no one knows right now the answer to your question - try doing a google search, keywords like "ubuntu cups root login" might be enough
[01:16] <ubuntu__> can you help me out on this one?
[01:16] <ubuntu__> cuz im getting really mad
[01:16] <ubuntu__> and this makes no sence
[01:17] <VanessaE> ubuntu: exactly what error messages do you get?
[01:17] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: ok thx u very much .. GOD bless u
[01:17] <calilasseia> Hello everyone ... I have a keyboard glitch that needs sorting ...
[01:17] <ubuntu__> no error
[01:17] <ubuntu__> it just wont connect
[01:17] <cpk2> ubuntu__: the sun package is sun-java5-bin
[01:17] <ubuntu__> huh?
[01:17] <VanessaE> connect in what way?  as in dhcpd (or was it dhcpcd?) can't get an address?
[01:18] <ubuntu__> i think so
[01:18] <ubuntu__> i dont rememver
[01:18] <cpk2> ubuntu__: wrong person =P
[01:18] <ubuntu__> missing domain i'm pretty sure
[01:18] <VanessaE> eh, missing domain?
[01:18] <cpk2> livingdaylight: the sun package is sun-java5-bin
[01:18] <VanessaE> weird
[01:18] <josh__> and i cant save my default gateway either
[01:18] <VanessaE> we need to see the exact messages
[01:18] <josh__> its <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:19] <josh__> i apply
[01:19] <livingdaylight> cpk2: and that automatically configures with Konqueror?
[01:19] <josh__> restart
[01:19] <josh__> and the settings are gone
[01:19] <livingdaylight> cpk2: i used sun-java-jre1.5
[01:19] <VanessaE> well if you're booting from a liveCD there's nothing you could save to anyway that the CD would read from
[01:19] <cpk2> livingdaylight: no, you will need to tell your system to use the sun java instead of the free java
[01:19] <VanessaE> so it's no surprise that it won't remember that setting
[01:20] <calilasseia> I've lost access to my CTRL-ALT-Fn terminals ... and I think it's a keyboard mapping problem that's at fault ....
[01:20] <cpk2> livingdaylight: sorry its sun-java5-jre
[01:20] <livingdaylight> cpk2: i did use sunjava - sun-java-jre is that free?
[01:20] <gan|y|med> hello @ all
[01:20] <josh__> does that make any sence either?
[01:20] <josh__> the settings wont stay there
[01:20] <livingdaylight> cpk2: lol, that is what i installed
[01:20] <livingdaylight> cpk2: is that the right package?
[01:20] <livingdaylight> cpk2: now how to configure that in Konqueror??
[01:21] <VanessaE> Josh: you're booting from a LiveCD right?
[01:21] <gan|y|med> i ahve trouble playing wmv hd files and normal asf files (w32 codecs are installed), saying: "the file is encrypted" (DRM?) any ideas how to solve this problem?
[01:21] <cpk2> livingdaylight: what does java -version say?
[01:22] <calilasseia> How do I check my current keyboard mappings and if they ARE at fault, change them?
[01:22] <cpk2> livingdaylight: also do you see the sun package when you do update-java-alternatives -l
[01:22] <livingdaylight> cpk2: i don't know what you mean now? :s
[01:22] <cpk2> livingdaylight: using a terminal do those commands
[01:22] <josh__> yeah
[01:22] <josh__> i'm in a live cd right now
[01:23] <VanessaE> calilasseia, if you're sure it's a keyboard mapping issue, then using Kde control center, Regional and Accessibility -> Keyboard Layout
[01:23] <calilasseia> Thanks Vanessa ....
[01:23] <cpk2> gan|y|med: i believe there is no support at all for drm in linux =(
[01:24] <livingdaylight> cpk2: java version "1.4.2"
[01:24] <josh__> omg this is so freaking stupid
[01:24] <livingdaylight> cpk2: what exactly is the second command?
[01:24] <cpk2> livingdaylight: thats old
[01:24] <livingdaylight> cpk2: i thought i had installed 1.5?
[01:24] <VanessaE> Josh: ok, let's try a quick experiment.  With your hard drive connected, boot up from the livecd and get to a terminal.  sudo -i to go to root.    Mount your hard drive and find the /etc folder within it.  rename /etc on your hard drive to something else like /etc-temp
[01:25] <cpk2> livingdaylight: try sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[01:25] <VanessaE> then, leaving the hard disk in place, reboot with the liveCD and see what happens
[01:25] <josh__> ok
[01:25] <cpk2> livingdaylight: actually before apt-get do update-java-alternatives -l and see if 1.5 is in there
[01:25] <VanessaE> something tells me the liveCD is referencing your hard disk and using something it finds there to muck up your domain name or so
[01:25] <goofy> whats the commany to mount
[01:25] <VanessaE> be sure when you're done, to put /etc back again.
[01:26] <josh__> but
[01:26] <VanessaE> goofy: mount -t fstype /dev/device /mount/point
[01:26] <josh__> even in a live cd with the drive connected
[01:26] <josh__> there's no internet
[01:26] <josh__> even with linux not installed
[01:26] <malix0> some one else that would test  this http://www.massimofidanza.it/firefox/ thanks
[01:26] <VanessaE> fill in fstype (e.g. nfs, xfs, reiserfs),  /dev/device (e.g. /dev/hdc) and /mount/point (e.g. /mnt)
[01:26] <josh__> when i installed it there was no internet
[01:27] <livingdaylight> cpk2: this is confusing: sun-java5-bin is already the newest version.
[01:27] <VanessaE> Josh: you just said a few minutes ago that withOUT a hard disk installed, you were able to gain access to the 'net
[01:27] <josh__> yeah
[01:27] <josh__> but if the drive is connected but linux isn't installed it still wont work
[01:27] <VanessaE> ok
[01:27] <cpk2> livingdaylight: update-java-alternatives -l  <---- type that in a command line, it will list all the java's you have
[01:27] <calilasseia> Vanessa, it worked! Thanks a bunch!
[01:27] <VanessaE> then you can forget the trick I mentioned :)
[01:27] <goofy> VanessaE: thanks, gui monunting isnt working for some reason
[01:27] <VanessaE> calilasseia, excellent.
[01:27] <josh__> ok well how about i plug it in now?
[01:28] <josh__> its SATA so its got hot-swapping
[01:28] <VanessaE> eh, not all SATA is hot-swappable
[01:28] <VanessaE> (mine isn't)
[01:28] <calilasseia> Bye everyone ...
[01:28] <josh__> well mine is new
[01:28] <cpk2> dont you also need hot swapping built into the kernel?
[01:28] <VanessaE> well if you are sure your machine supports it, plug it in...but keep in mind what cpk2 just said - it might not work anyway
[01:29] <cpk2> which I am not so sure in the prepackaged ubuntu kernel
[01:29] <cpk2> i might be wrong, about kernel support for it though
[01:29] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: I got it, thx for the Lord ! :D ... Could u tell me what is it for kde wallet ?? please
[01:29] <VanessaE> lipe: there's one other change that might help - sudo nano /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and find the "Security Options.,....
[01:29] <VanessaE> ok good :)
[01:29] <goofy> VanessaE: now how do i make it mount at bootup
[01:29] <VanessaE> goofy: add a line to your /etc/fstab
[01:30] <goofy> alright...thanks
[01:30] <josh__> what if its not supported
[01:30] <josh__> can it wreck itself/
[01:30] <VanessaE> device   mountpoint   fstype   options (usually "defaults)  and then two separate 0's
[01:30] <VanessaE> just follow the example therein :)
[01:30] <VanessaE> josh: if the hardware supports it, it'll probably be fine..  if not, yeah you could wreck it.  If the kernel doesn't support hotswap, then it probably just won't do anything
[01:31] <josh__> hmm
[01:31] <josh__> ok
[01:31] <josh__> i'll go in
[01:31] <josh__> with hd connectee
[01:31] <josh__> format the partition
[01:31] <josh__> and reboot
[01:31] <VanessaE> what you need to do it hook the drive back up, reboot with the livecd as before and get us the exact text of those error msgs.  Use Control-S to pause the screen if you need to (Control-Q resumes)
[01:32] <VanessaE> there might be something you're missing if the messages scroll by too quickly.
[01:32] <josh__> m'k
[01:32] <josh__> payce
[01:33] <VanessaE> (this doesn't make any sense to me either, there's no reason at all why the networking subsystem should depend on the presence or absence of a hard disk..  odd)
[01:33] <livingdaylight> cpk2: brb -sorry
[01:34] <VanessaE> (you know something?  I talk way too much)
[01:34] <bomber> agreed
[01:34] <bomber> :-;
[01:35] <VanessaE> :P
[01:35] <cpk2> haha bomber
[01:35] <bomber> hello
[01:36] <bomber> Hawkwind: I got the repository issue all set
[01:37] <bomber> i enabled them through adept which was really easy
[01:38] <livingdaylight> where is the pastebin url?
[01:38] <master__> question
[01:38] <livingdaylight> !paste
[01:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:38] <VanessaE> !pastebin
[01:38] <master__> how can I enter a dns server and have it stay there
[01:39] <VanessaE> master: sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[01:39] <VanessaE> add a line like "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>"
[01:39] <livingdaylight> cpk2: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26376/
[01:39] <master__> right now when I do so
[01:39] <master__> and reboot it gets overwritten
[01:39] <VanessaE> hrm
[01:39] <livingdaylight> islam_: salaam maleikum
[01:39] <manuel_> AGENTE 2012
[01:39] <master__> what is hrm VanessaE?
[01:39] <VanessaE> wait
[01:39] <master__> ok thank you VanessaE
[01:40] <livingdaylight> cpk2: you still there? :)
[01:40] <manuel_> AGENTE2012
[01:40] <cpk2> livingdaylight: good, you have sun java installed
[01:40] <islam_> Walaikum As Salaam
[01:40] <VanessaE> well since you're probably on DHCP, best option would be to add a line like the following, to /etc/init.d/bootmisc
[01:40] <cpk2> livingdaylight:  sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun will tell your system to use the sun java
[01:40] <islam_> "None equals Him."
[01:40] <islam_>  http://download.al-islaam.com/audiovideo/anasheedram/al-islaam/html/samtan/lastbreath.swf
[01:40] <VanessaE> echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" >> /etc/resolv.conf
[01:40] <livingdaylight> cpk2: thats right strange that java 1.4 showed up?
[01:41] <VanessaE> since the network comes up before bootmisc runs, that's a good place to put that line (be sure you have two >>
[01:41] <master__> thank you
[01:41] <cpk2> livingdaylight: 1.4 was probably the free java
[01:41] <VanessaE> marks, not just one)
[01:41] <livingdaylight> cpk2: thx alot man!
[01:41] <cpk2> livingdaylight: once you do  sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun do java -version again
[01:41] <master__> VanessaE:  thank you very much
[01:41] <VanessaE> yw.
[01:42] <VanessaE> sometimes it's easier to do it the "wrong" way :)
[01:42] <VanessaE> lipe: what did you mean earlier about kdewallet?
[01:42] <lipe_pe> someone can tell me, how can i make a remote access using vnc ?!! please
[01:42] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: i just want to know, please, what is it for ?!
[01:42] <VanessaE> lipe: it stores passwords for other kde apps
[01:42] <livingdaylight> cpk2: i was ahead of you there ;) here's the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26377/
[01:42] <VanessaE> it's a secure method as it keeps things encrypted and can itself be protected by a master password...  personally I hate it :)
[01:43] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: ehehehehe, thx u very much
[01:43] <lipe_pe> VanessaE:  Vanessa, could u tell me how can i make a remote access with vnc ?!
[01:43] <VanessaE> no clue, I've never touched vnc
[01:44] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: thx u very much !
[01:44] <VanessaE> if I need remote access to a box I usually just use ssh
[01:44] <livingdaylight> cpk2: so, my question remains how does Konqueror read java. I was trying everything i could to point konqueror to the java path /usr/lib/java
[01:44] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: me too... but i just want to test the vnc ...
[01:44] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: it seems to be very cool
[01:45] <VanessaE> try this site:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[01:45] <VanessaE> that looks like what you want
[01:45] <lipe_pe> VanessaE: thx u veeeery much, again ! :D
[01:45] <VanessaE> Google is Your Friend (tm) :)
[01:56] <manuel_> HOLA
[01:56] <VanessaE> hello
[01:56] <livingdaylight> hola manuel_ ! que passa contigo?
[01:57] <manuel_> ESTOY PERDIDO
[01:58] <VanessaE> please don't type in all capitals
[01:58] <livingdaylight> manuel_: ah, bienvenido
[01:58] <manuel_> ok
[01:58] <manuel_> iam lose
[01:58] <livingdaylight> manuel_: #kubuntu-es
[01:59] <livingdaylight> manuel_: yes, you are lost
[01:59] <livingdaylight> manuel_: #ubuntu-es
[01:59] <manuel_> can you helpme
[02:00] <livingdaylight> manuel_: i am even more lost than you, but i am willing to try. Others here canmaybe help too. Best to just ask
[02:00] <livingdaylight> !ask
[02:00] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:00] <LjL> am i lost?
[02:00] <livingdaylight> LjL: nah...you're one of the pros here ;)
[02:01] <livingdaylight> LjL: i was referring to me only
[02:01] <cpk2> livingdaylight: sorry was doing a simple script to help my laziness
[02:01] <cpk2> livingdaylight: that should tell konq to use sun java now?
[02:01] <LjL> and i was just contributing to the athmosphere of lostness ;P
[02:01] <manuel_> see i dont know how to use this chat
[02:01] <LjL> manuel_: well, you're using it right now...
[02:02] <manuel_> were you come from
[02:02] <josh_> ok
[02:02] <josh_> i was on here a while ago
[02:02] <josh_> about the internet
[02:02] <livingdaylight> cpk2: well...maybe i have to undo something but it isn't reading java just as it is now.  I undid everything i had done before with the 'path' thing and now it works!
[02:07] <livingdaylight> manuel_: i dont know, but my name is livingdaylight not ivingdaylight
[02:07] <cpk2> livingdaylight: well good to hear =)
[02:07] <manuel_> escusame
[02:07] <livingdaylight> manuel_: if you want a social chat #ubuntuforums is better, ok? This channel is for real problems related to Kubuntu
[02:08] <livingdaylight> cpk2: hey, you were magic there with those commands - couldn't have done it without you - huge thx!
[02:11] <manuel_> livingdaylight_: ijust install kubuntu for the first time can you tellme were can i find help
[02:12] <livingdaylight> manuel_: sure, check out http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[02:14] <manuel_> livingdaylight_:tankyou and escuse my english iam puertorican
[02:15] <livingdaylight> manuel_: you can find spanish support in #kubuntu-es and #ubuntu-es
[02:16] <livingdaylight> manuel_: type: /join #kubuntu-es or type /join #ubuntu-es and you can get support in spanish
[02:17] <manuel_> #kubuntu-es
[02:17] <livingdaylight> manuel_: no, i said type: /join #kubuntu-es
[02:20] <bobbyd> hi
[02:20] <bobbyd> how do I make it so that I can double-click a shell script and it'll open in a konqueror window?
[02:20] <bobbyd> at the moment, nothing happens when I double-click...
[02:24] <dudu29> #rio
[02:24] <LjL> bobbyd: actually, what i guess happens is that the script is executed...
[02:26] <LjL> bobbyd: you can right click, select "Open with", and choose some editor like Kate. or select "Other", and if you want, from there you can probably make opening with Kate or whatever the default double-click action
[02:26] <LjL> not entirely sure that's a good idea however
[02:27] <Sanne> bobbyd, LjL: I just did a test with a small script, it doesn't get executed here. It does when I call it from a terminal. I guess shell scripts somehow need to be run from a terminal, so right now I don't have a solution.
[02:28] <LjL> Sanne: i did the same test, and nothing happens, which makes me thing it gets executed... what makes you think it doesn't?
[02:28] <LjL> Sanne: hm, you're correct actually
[02:29] <Sanne> LjL: I wrote a script with that does a: 'touch testfile'. I don't see the file created when I double click, but it gets created when I run it from konsole.
[02:30] <LjL> Sanne: well, i'm guessing perhaps konqueror just looks at the fact that it's an executable, and tries to execute it, without looking at the initial #! line, and you get a "not a binary file" error that you can't see...
[02:31] <Sanne> LjL: yeah, that may be.
[02:31] <LjL> (more on the lines of "not an ELF executable" though, just not to be too sloppy with terminology)
[02:32] <dec_> I am new to linux and I was wondering do you have to run gnome applications in gnome and not in kde?  and will it alter the way the application runs?
[02:32] <Sanne> LjL: hmmm, there are options like "run in terminal" when you create an entry in the kde menu or in the launcher. If we could duplicate that, maybe it would work.
[02:32] <livingdaylight> !nvidia
[02:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:33] <Sanne> dec_: you can run Gnome apps in KDE and vice versa, you just would need to install the dependent libraries (which gets installed automatically, if you install through the package manager)
[02:34] <JimmyGreen> gnome / kde apps will run under whichever, if the correct libraries are installed
[02:34] <Sanne> dec_: for example, I use The Gimp, a gtk app, in Kubuntu fine.
[02:34] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[02:34] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:34] <dec_> I recently copied a dvd using gnomebaker in the kde environment and the copy was not good at all
[02:35] <LjL> Sanne: ah, nevermind... i think the script *gets* executed
[02:35] <dec_> has anyone experienced problems with gnomebaker as far as poor blocky quality?
[02:36] <LjL> Sanne: only, if you touch a file, it touches it in your home dir, and not in the dir the script is actually located (desktop, i'm guessing)
[02:36] <livingdaylight> says that nvidia-kernel-srouce is not needed in ubuntu 'coz its already in the kernel. That obviously applies to Kubuntu aswell?
[02:36] <Sanne> dec_: I won't think the desktop env is the problem, because as I know the burning tools all use the same command line programs as a backend anyway (not sure about gnomebaker, though)
[02:37] <Sanne> LjL: good catch, checking
[02:37] <Sanne> LjL: there it is, ~/testfile
[02:37] <dec_> any suggestions as to a good burning program I have used k3b and gnomebaker and both have fizzled out
[02:38] <Sanne> LjL: so it gets executed, but without any output, because there's nothing to output to.
[02:38] <livingdaylight> says that nvidia-kernel-srouce is not needed in ubuntu 'coz its already in the kernel. That obviously applies to Kubuntu aswell, yes?
[02:39] <livingdaylight> !es
[02:39] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:39] <dec_> any suggestions as to a good burning program? I have used k3b and gnomebaker and both have fizzled out
[02:39] <Sanne> dec_: I have good success with k3b, never used any other app under Linux, so that's my only recommendation, sorry...
[02:39] <dec_> I keep getting a error code 11 when using k3b and it knocks me off any input
[02:40] <dec_> Oh with the error code is sigsevg
[02:41] <LjL> Sanne: well, we could discuss whether automatically opening a terminal could be a better idea i suppose...
[02:41] <Sanne> livingdaylight: I didn't install nvidia-kernel-source for my nvidia driver, so I guess, yes, it's already available. I needed to install nvidia-glx and linux-restricted-modules for my running kernel (doublecheck on the package names, quoting from memory)
[02:41] <LjL> Sanne: but then, on the other hand, you could have scripts that call kdialog or whatever, for which you actually don't *want* a terminal
[02:41] <dec_> I keep getting the error code 11 sigsevg anybody experience this before
[02:42] <redphoenix> alright, Firefox 2 saves your session and lets you resume it, that'll help me out A LOT, since it crashes so freaking much for me!
[02:42] <Sanne> LjL: yeah, my line of thought also... depends on the kind of script in question, I guess.
[02:42] <livingdaylight> Sanne: thx, for that. the guide didn't say anything about linux-restricted-modules, i don't think
[02:43] <Sanne> livingdaylight: that may be, should be fixed. Usually you have it already installed, *unless* you changed your kernel.
[02:43] <Sanne> livingdaylight: there's a wiki opage that is a bit more detailed, should I look it up for you?
[02:43] <dec_> I keep getting the error code 11 sigsevg anybody experience this before using k3b?
[02:44] <livingdaylight> Sanne: could you? i'd be much obliged
[02:45] <Sanne> livingdaylight: ok, this is actually for Ubuntu/Gnome, but you would get details on the packages to install: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:45] <livingdaylight> thx, Sanne
[02:45] <Sanne> livingdaylight: yw, and good luck
[02:46] <livingdaylight> !paste
[02:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:46] <dec_> I keep getting the error code 11 sigsevg anybody experience this before using k3b?
[02:46] <Dark_Vampire> !limewire
[02:46] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[02:46] <Dark_Vampire> !java
[02:46] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[02:47] <livingdaylight> Sanne: this is the error i keep getting: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26387/ maybe you can comment?
[02:47] <Sanne> livingdaylight: looking
[02:49] <Sanne> livingdaylight: this just means your xorg.conf got altered and the saved checksum doesn't match. Just do what it says to update the checksum (and maybe make a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf just in case before proceeding). After that, type: md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[02:50] <Sanne> livingdaylight: after that, again: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:50] <livingdaylight> Sanne: md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum is one command?
[02:51] <Sanne> livingdaylight: yes, actually it's two commands, joined by the so called pipe "|". It is one line.
[02:53] <SbCl3> i'm on a live CD, and i just installed bittorrent/bittorrent-gui
[02:53] <SbCl3> what's the name of the program so that i can access it from the shell (doesn't show up on the menu)
[02:53] <SbCl3> ?
[02:54] <livingdaylight> Sanne: ok, and the backup command is? : cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup ?
[02:54] <Sanne> livingdaylight: with a prepended sudo, otherwise looks fine :)
[02:55] <livingdaylight> Sanne: yea... : )
[02:55] <bLaZeD> whats better to use adduser or useradd?
[02:56] <Sanne> livingdaylight: if the xserver doesn't start, you would have to restore the xorg.cong backup from the terminal without the gui.
[02:56] <Hawkwind> bLaZeD: They are both one in the samw
[02:56] <Hawkwind> s/samw/same
[02:56] <Sanne> bLaZeD: on of those is a friendly frontend to the other... dunno which is which though
[02:56] <bLaZeD> Hawkwind, ahh good deal
[02:56] <bLaZeD> Sanne, ahh
[02:57] <bLaZeD> thank u both
[02:57] <bLaZeD> =)
[02:58] <josh_> !mp3
[02:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:58] <livingdaylight> livingdaylight is gonna do ctl+alt+backspace - wish me luck
[02:59] <Sanne> livingdaylight: good luck!
[02:59] <livingdaylight> :)
[02:59] <bLaZeD> hmm am i crazy or did when u ran useradd it asked for the users real name,login name,password,and if it should be added to any groups and such
[02:59] <rance> !cups
[02:59] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:59] <bLaZeD> !adduser
[02:59] <ubotu> adduser: Add and remove users and groups. In component main, is important. Version 3.80ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 117 kB, installed size 796 kB
[03:00] <bLaZeD> !useradd
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about useradd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <bLaZeD> anyone know what this means ?... adduser: Only one or two names allowed
[03:02] <redphoenix> anybody here upgrade to Firefox 2 RC yet?
[03:02] <Sanne> bLaZeD: sorry, I only used adduser for adding my normal user to another group, which was easy. But try 'man adduser' if you haven't already, it should tell you the options.
[03:03] <bLaZeD> Sanne, yea i got a weird error with adduser so im now resorting to the gui way :/ ....but i think its gonna work
[03:03] <UniX> hi everyone
[03:03] <bLaZeD> Sanne, but thanks for the info
[03:04] <Sanne> bLaZeD: heh, sometimes the Gui is just nice and comfy. ;) You're welcome.
[03:04] <UniX> can anyone help me out with super karamba?
[03:05] <UniX> can anyone help me out with super karamba?
[03:06] <UniX> who can help me out with super karamba?
[03:06] <Dark_Vampire> !limewire
[03:06] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[03:08] <sorush20> !udf
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about udf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <flaccid> is kde 3.5.5 available in any ubuntu sources yet
[03:09] <sorush20> how do I write to udf format cdrw in kubuntu?
[03:09] <UniX> how do you i install super karamba under kubuntu?
[03:10] <Sanne> night all
[03:10] <flaccid> UniX: k3b udf support is ok now afaik
[03:10] <jmichaelx> flaccid: yes
[03:10] <flaccid> jmichaelx: which source
[03:10] <UniX> flaccid what do you mean with afaik>
[03:10] <UniX> ??
[03:11] <jmichaelx> flaccid: the first source listed on kubuntu.org
[03:11] <flaccid> as far as i know
[03:12] <UniX> ok what does k3b udf support is ok mean @flaccid?
[03:12] <flaccid> jmichaelx: hmm can't find a source listed on the homepage
[03:12] <flaccid> UniX: dont understand
[03:13] <jmichaelx> brb
[03:13] <UniX> flaccid with did u mean by this whole sentences? UniX: k3b udf support is ok now afaik
[03:13] <flaccid> UniX: i think k3b can do udf. in the past the udf support was not complete, but i think it is now
[03:14] <UniX> oic
[03:14] <UniX> i am a newbee could u please explain me what k3b and udf. stand for?
[03:15] <flaccid> kde3 burner
[03:15] <MasterEvilAce> Anyone here installed Vista before?
[03:16] <flaccid> universal disk format
[03:16] <flaccid> but from what i have read udf support in linux is still patchy
[03:16] <KBTU> what does k3b and udf hast to do with super karamba?
[03:17] <KBTU> has
[03:17] <pacman> flaccid: I almost got it working right...heh
[03:18] <flaccid> pacman: what working ?
[03:18] <pacman> flaccid: torcs
[03:18] <flaccid> cool
[03:18] <flaccid> KBTU: no idea
[03:18] <pacman> flaccid: the fps is still wicked slow
[03:18] <flaccid> oh i'm talking to the wrong person
[03:19] <flaccid> UniX all that was meant for sorush20
[03:19] <KBTU> ok
[03:20] <flaccid> UniX: sorry ignore what i was saying, it was meant for sorush20. to install superkaramba install the superkaramba package with your favourite package manager
[03:20] <KBTU> can anyone help me out with how to install super karamba? I tried it over the console but it says erroe
[03:20] <KBTU> error
[03:20] <flaccid> eg. sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[03:20] <rance> im having a little trouble with ssh its listening on my external interface (nmap confirmed) but sshing INTO my box doesnt work, the error I get is "Permission Denied" but I dont understand why?
[03:20] <flaccid> KBTU what is the error
[03:20] <rance> I can ssh to the box from an INTERNAL interface
[03:21] <fildo> well i hope so rance
[03:22] <Dark_Vampire> uhm I've got a problem installing sun-java5
[03:22] <rance> I hope so what?
[03:22] <jmichaelx> flaccid: did you find that source? i have 3.5.5 installed now
[03:22] <KBTU> first i type cd /home/thk/superkaramba-0.39
[03:22] <flaccid> jmichaelx: there was no source listed on the homepage
[03:22] <fildo> that u can ssh to a box from an interface
[03:22] <KBTU> so far so gud
[03:23] <rance> oh, ok
[03:23] <jmichaelx> flaccid: just click on the link below the announcement of 3.5.5
[03:23] <Dark_Vampire> he cant find the package and somebody told me i should allow universe packages
[03:23] <flaccid> KBTU: 0.40 is available from ubuntu sources
[03:23] <rance> well, I dont see why its listening on the external interface but not validating user passwords
[03:23] <Dark_Vampire> but in the adept manager the "view" menu points are grey and i cant click them
[03:23] <jmichaelx> flaccid: i just used deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper main
[03:24] <binaryflow> Is something wrong with the dapper plf source on freecontrib.org?
[03:24] <binaryflow> apt-get says public key is not available.
[03:25] <KBTU> where do i find the ubuntu sources i am running kubuntu? @ flaccid?
[03:26] <fildo> what u after KBTU
[03:26] <fildo> source.list generator ?
[03:26] <fildo> nice, kde 3.5.5 out
[03:26] <KBTU> i have to restart will be back
[03:26] <flaccid> KBTU: its in the main source, so you should just be able to sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[03:28] <flaccid> sweet upgrading kde now
[03:30] <fildo> 208m
[03:30] <fildo> tho
[03:30] <flaccid> yay 2h download
[03:31] <dennister> oops...didn't realize I was still logged in
[03:31] <fildo> thats a bad thing ? dennister
[03:32] <dennister> heheh...dinner party is over now
[03:32] <jmichaelx> flaccid: dial-up?
[03:33] <dennister> does anyone know if the 3.5.4 version of kde is going to be n the repositories soon?
[03:33] <flaccid> jmichaelx: might as well be. its called telstra bigpond rip off adsl
[03:33] <jmichaelx> lol
[03:34] <fildo> ehhe
[03:34] <fildo> a pigeon would be quicker
[03:35] <fildo> ok time to reboot
[03:37] <Homer> KDE 3.5.5 is out?
[03:37] <binaryflow> flaccid: how are you updating kde?  What source are you using?
[03:37] <bioticpro> anyone know how to make the "Windows" key on the keyboard not be a modifier, and actually do a command itself?
[03:38] <flaccid> binaryflow: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php
[03:38] <fildo> Homer: affirmative
[03:38] <fildo> too much effort
[03:39] <fildo> :p
[03:39] <flaccid> i guess its another day of procrastinating for me
[03:40] <Homer> is there a changelog?
[03:40] <fildo> soon we procrastinate together!
[03:40] <rojikaru> I'm already procastinating.
[03:40] <Homer> nm
[03:40] <Homer> http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.5.5.php
[03:40] <flaccid> yep
[03:42] <Homer> yay more khtml imporvements
[03:42] <Homer> go go go
[03:42] <binaryflow> Never mind about my plf question - ubuntu plf is shut down.
[03:47] <Dark_Vampire> why do start kate if i try to run a shell skript?
[03:48] <flaccid> Dark_Vampire: kate
[03:48] <Dark_Vampire> kate is a text editor
[03:49] <flaccid> indeed :)
[03:49] <KaiHanari> Dark_Vampire: windows
[03:49] <KaiHanari> :/
[03:49] <Dark_Vampire> ???
[03:49] <KaiHanari> lol
[03:49] <flaccid> its location is /usr/bin/kate
[03:50] <KaiHanari> Dark_Vampire, thought you were a bot
[03:50] <Dark_Vampire> oh :D
[03:50] <Dark_Vampire> no I'm not
[03:51] <Dark_Vampire> but i tryed to run shell scripts, but when i do, kate opens and the script and nothing else...
[03:51] <InteliWasp> !ati
[03:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:51] <InteliWasp> !botsnack
[03:51] <ubotu> Yum!
[03:52] <Random_Transit> hey, i'm having a really weird problem with ubuntu....
[03:52] <Random_Transit> i have various apps starting to memory leak for no good reason
[03:53] <Random_Transit> namely, Amarok, Firefox, GAIM, Nautilus, and KTorrent
[03:53] <flaccid> Dark_Vampire: i think thats because its waiting to close kate before it executes the next line?
[03:53] <Admiral_Chicago> i've never had a problem with them
[03:53] <Admiral_Chicago> Firefox, kind of but that's after heavy use.
[03:53] <Admiral_Chicago> gaim, no.
[03:53] <Admiral_Chicago> Ktorrent, I haven't used in a few months
[03:53] <Random_Transit> could this be a kernel issue?
[03:54] <Admiral_Chicago> the biggest problem I have in compiz
[03:54] <Admiral_Chicago> Random_Transit: i doubt it
[03:54] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: What makes you think all those apps have memory leaks ?
[03:55] <Dark_Vampire> flaccid: no i mean, if i run a shell script that should install sthg, why opens kate at all and no installation is done?
[03:55] <flaccid> Dark_Vampire: consult the author of the shell script :)
[03:55] <flaccid> i dont' know what is in the shell script..
[03:56] <Random_Transit> because i'll be working away and suddenly, things start to lag like crazy....so much so, that i can't even move the mouse or type
[03:56] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: If it was a memory leak in those apps, everyone would experience that
[03:56] <Random_Transit> hmm
[03:56] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: Sounds like a hardware issue possibly
[03:57] <Hawkwind> I use ktorrent, firefox and gaim and don't have those issues.  Nautilus you'd have to talk to the Ubuntu/Gnome guys in #Ubuntu
[03:57] <Random_Transit> hawkwind....i also use Gentoo on the same machine...and i've yet to see these issues on my gentoo install
[03:57] <Dark_Vampire> flaccid: but this happend with the Firefox installation, too.. but firefox i could install with apt-get install ...
[03:57] <flaccid> Random_Transit: its a different machine, different install etc. can't compare them
[03:57] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: How much RAM is in the box and what are the specs of the box ?
[03:57] <Momal> What is the best way to free up physical memory under linux?.. seems my box is chewing up 1.8gb lol. I have few things running but when I look in the process list via system guard they don't seem to use that much and when I close them the memory just goes to another thing lol.
[03:58] <Random_Transit> flaccid, it's the same machine
[03:58] <Hawkwind> Momal: You don't want to
[03:58] <flaccid> Dark_Vampire: need more info
[03:58] <Hawkwind> Momal: Linux handles RAM completely different than Windows, meaning.......
[03:58] <Hawkwind> Momal: The more RAM that is being used, the better since Linux puts it all in cache
[03:58] <Hawkwind> Momal: It frees the RAM as the system or apps need it
[03:58] <Momal> Hawkwind: So if I try to run vmware and use 1gb of ram linux will auto sort it out for me ?
[03:59] <flaccid> Random_Transit: ok. still can't really assume anything yet. could still be hardware...
[03:59] <Hawkwind> Momal: So if you don't reboot for 3 months, you could RAM cached from a few weeks ago possibly depending on what you've done with your system in that time
[03:59] <Random_Transit> hawkwind: 900Mhz AMD Athlon, 320 MB RAM, 3 HDDs: 100GB, 80GB, 20GB, respectively
[03:59] <Hawkwind> Momal: Absolutely
[03:59] <Admiral_Chicago> Momal: *nix uses all the memory, but not to run things kinda to prepare the system for running apps
[03:59] <Dark_Vampire> flaccid: but a other question i got more important for the moment is: how can i allow to get multiverse things in adept manager? the view menu is all grey and i cant click the menu points there
[03:59] <Momal> awsome thanks :)
[03:59] <Random_Transit> i've been using ubuntu for over a year, and haven't seen problems until now
[03:59] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: That's probably part of the problem.  Try using a light weight window manager like fluxbox or Xfce
[04:00] <flaccid> Dark_Vampire: is multiverse in your sources.list
[04:00] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: Though 320MB can KDE, preferably best to run it on a machine with 512MB if possible.  The more RAM the better of course.  And depending on what else you are doing that little bit of RAM can cause problems
[04:00] <rich_> hello
[04:00] <Random_Transit> hawkwind...again. i've been using GNOME and KDE for years on this very machine
[04:00] <Dark_Vampire> flaccid: how do i know that?
[04:00] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: That means absolutely nothing, honestly
[04:01] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: Have you run memtest for atleast 12 - 16 hours to see that your RAM isn't going bad ?
[04:01] <rich_> TALK TO ME PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:01] <flaccid> Dark_Vampire: i think its this in the sources.list: deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[04:01] <Random_Transit> no i haven't
[04:01] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: That would be a good place to start
[04:01] <Random_Transit> besides memtest, might it be a good idea to increase my swap space?
[04:02] <flaccid> hardware has been known to randomly die
[04:02] <Momal> rich_: hi... don't talk in caps :)... your best just to say your problem :p
[04:02] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: I'd install smartmontools and run the smartd service to check your drive status regularly as well.  Could be a dying harddrive causing issues
[04:02] <flaccid> Random_Transit: nope. linux manages memory fine.
[04:02] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: How much swap space do you have ?
[04:02] <Random_Transit> 1gig
[04:02] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: That is way too much swap space as it is
[04:02] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: So the answer is no, don't increase the size of swap
[04:02] <Dark_Vampire> flaccid: the problem is i cant open any of the menus in the view menu in adept manager and so i cant even allow multiverse...
[04:03] <Hawkwind> !repos > Dark_Vampire
[04:03] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: Read what the bot just told you in pm
[04:03] <flaccid> Dark_Vampire: let me have a look, you probably have to add it manually yourself to sources.list
[04:03] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: Follow the instructions to get all the sources you need
[04:03] <tomaz> ppl, anyone here having a problem with konqueror 3.5.5?
[04:03] <Dark_Vampire> thanks hawkwind
[04:03] <Hawkwind> tomaz: Define your problem as we can't read your mind
[04:04] <rich_> hello
[04:04] <Hawkwind> rich_: If you have a question, please feel free to just ask
[04:04] <tomaz> yup, i just upgraded the system to 3.5.5,
[04:04] <rich_> i am shy to
[04:04] <tomaz> and when i'm viewing a folder using the filter to search it's contents
[04:04] <Random_Transit> well. thanks for the memtest idea, hawkwind....btw, do i need to let my system idle while that runs?
[04:04] <flaccid> Dark_Vampire: that is weird
[04:04] <Hawkwind> rich_: Then we won't be able to help you unless we know what you need help with
[04:05] <Hawkwind> Random_Transit: It's best to run it over night while you sleep
[04:05] <tomaz> if i exit the folder, and return to it, the konqueror crashes
[04:05] <Random_Transit> ok
[04:05] <tomaz> anyone can try this to see if crashes too?
[04:05] <tomaz> (dapper drake)
[04:05] <Hawkwind> Ahhh, I don't have 3.5.5 in Dapper installed.  I'm still using 3.5.3 as I had issues with 3.5.4
[04:06] <VanessaE> I dunno about konq but the latest firefox build that came in earlier today crashes any time you try to open the preferences dialog
[04:06] <ironfroggy> any idea why Dynamic Playlists have stopped working in Amarok?
[04:06] <VanessaE> (on edgy, though...crashes are to be expected for now)
[04:06] <Dark_Vampire> Hawkwind: then theres another problem... Manage Repositories is grey and unclickable, too :(
[04:06] <Hawkwind> VanessaE: Latest firefox in Dapper today ??
[04:06] <ironfroggy> they just show the last playlist as already played and repopulating them does not work.
[04:06] <VanessaE> hawk: in edgy
[04:06] <rich_> can some1 private chat me????????????????????????????
[04:06] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: Edit the file manually
[04:06] <VanessaE> think it came in today or maybe it was last night
[04:06] <rich_> can some1 private chat me????????????????????????????
[04:06] <Hawkwind> VanessaE: Hah, wrong channel then.
[04:06] <VanessaE> rich, talk here please
[04:06] <tomaz> yeh, but i'm on dapper
[04:06] <Hawkwind> rich_: Please stop.  Ask your question here so everyone can see and help you
[04:07] <VanessaE> hawk: oh, nono not trying to get help, just tossing that out as a comparison
[04:07] <Hawkwind> VanessaE: Right, but you can't compare those unfortunately :P
[04:07] <VanessaE> heh
[04:07] <VanessaE> true
[04:07] <Dark_Vampire> Hawkwind: i dont know how to... I'm a real newbee :(
[04:07] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:07] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: Type that into a terminal
[04:07] <flaccid> Dark_Vampire: i do not know why its greyed out
[04:08] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: Are you running Dapper or Edgy ?
[04:08] <Dark_Vampire> edgy
[04:08] <Hawkwind> Bingo!
[04:08] <Hawkwind> It's a known issue in Edgy
[04:08] <flaccid> ah yeah bingo!
[04:08] <flaccid> hehe
[04:08] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: Might ask in #Ubuntu+1
[04:08] <rich_> OK how do i get the girl every likes
[04:08] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: Also take note, Edgy is still not final, so you shouldn't be using it yet if you're not familiar with how things work
[04:08] <flaccid> rich_: you kidnap her
[04:08] <Hawkwind> rich_: Wrong channel to be asking that in
[04:09] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: Edgy won't be released for another 2 weeks.  It's still beta, meant to break quite often
[04:09] <Dark_Vampire> hawkwind: somebody told me yesterday that edgy is almost done and it would be good for me :(
[04:09] <VanessaE> Well, I'm one girl everyone seems to like :)  but I'm taken, so go away
[04:10] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: You shouldn't have listened to them if you are new to Linux or Ubuntu
[04:10] <rich_> how do i change chann???????????????????????els
[04:10] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: If you've been using Linux a year or so and know what you're doing, then that is highly possible
[04:10] <Hawkwind> rich_: /join #Kubuntu-OffTopic
[04:10] <Hawkwind> rich_: Type that exactly
[04:10] <flaccid> rich_: /part #kubuntu then /join #channel
[04:10] <Hawkwind> /join #Kubuntu-OffTopic
[04:11] <Dark_Vampire> Hawkwind: i see... but i told them that I'm new on linux... well...
[04:12] <flaccid> can't do much about misinformation
[04:12] <VanessaE> btw, is KDE 3.5.5 worth the upgrade from 3.5.4?
[04:12] <tomaz> VanessaE: i'm having crashes in konqueror with 3.5.5
[04:13] <VanessaE> hm, ok
[04:13] <VanessaE> well I'll wait on it *reads release notes anyway*
[04:13] <tomaz> and when i'm viewing a folder using the filter to search it's contents, f i exit the folder, and return to it, the konqueror crashes
[04:20] <foodcoman> Hello.
[04:20] <Digital_Pioneer> Can I use the "Convert to Christian Ubuntu" script on Kubuntu?
[04:21] <foodcoman> My update to 3.5.5 messed up my fonts.  They are rough.  Any tips?
[04:22] <VanessaE> dare I ask what that script does?
[04:22] <VanessaE> foodcoman, have you checked that antialiasing didn't get turned off?
[04:22] <foodcoman> Checking.
[04:22] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: Do you know who it was that told you that information ?
[04:22] <foodcoman> Its enabled.
[04:23] <tomaz> my fonts are beautiful in 3.5.5
[04:23] <tomaz> but konqueror crashes
[04:23] <Dark_Vampire> Hawkwind: intellikey and somebody else here
[04:23] <Hawkwind> Exactly what I figured
[04:23] <tomaz> foodcoman, can you check something to me? check if the konqueror has the same bug here?
[04:23] <tomaz> open and select a folder, and filter it's contents.  exit the folder, and return to it, the konqueror crashes
[04:24] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: Not to be rude, but intelikey isn't someone you should listen to when it comes to what version of the distro you should use.  He's a bit more experienced, but he also didn't know that Edgy is still in beta
[04:24] <foodcoman> I changed antialiasing to medium and had to open a new app.
[04:24] <foodcoman> Looks  better.
[04:24] <VanessaE> oh good
[04:24] <flaccid> convert to christain script wtf
[04:25] <foodcoman> I think that version installs squid with Dans Gaurdian.
[04:25] <foodcoman> Filtering proxy.
[04:26] <Dark_Vampire> Hawkwind: well i told him that I've seen thats still in beta but he told me then that its done in 2 weeks so that this 2 weeks wouldnt be to worry about.....-.-
[04:26] <Blacken> Dark_Vampire: Anyone who tells you that sort of thing doesn't have your best interests in mind.
[04:27] <Hawkwind> Dark_Vampire: That is simply and completely wrong information.  I totally agree with what Blacken just stated
[04:27] <Blacken> Hawkwind: Please repeat that, I don't think I've heard that before. ;)
[04:27] <Momal> lol!.... yea 2 weeks in the linux world can mean a whole lot...
[04:27] <foodcoman> VanessaE: Thanks for the antialiasing tip.
[04:28] <flaccid> more to the point, why upgrade now to a beta when the final is avail in 2 weeks
[04:28] <foodcoman> tomaz: doing your test
[04:28] <tomaz> tanks
[04:28] <VanessaE> you're welcome, but you found the fix yourself :)
[04:29] <Hawkwind> Blacken: I forgot what I said, sorry :P
[04:29] <foodcoman> tomaz: Cant get your crash.
[04:29] <VanessaE> I plan to stick with dapper for a while longer (a few months prolly), just to make sure edgy's good and ironed out first. :)
[04:30] <flaccid> Vanessa: same
[04:30] <flaccid> such a lovely name too VanessaE
[04:30] <VanessaE> thanks
[04:31] <VanessaE> oops
[04:31] <VanessaE> well now that said, I'll say a proper goodbye.  Night all :)
[04:32] <tomaz> hum... then is some problem here
[04:32] <tomaz> but what could do this problem?
[04:34] <physicsnick> dear #kubuntu, i accidentally deleted /etc/inetd.conf. is this a terribly important file? is there a way to undelete it? can someone with kubuntu pastebin theirs for me?
[04:35] <dennister> Lord, writing emails can take forever when there are sensitive topics...g'nite all
[04:35] <josh_> !xgl
[04:35] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:36] <Momal> that should probly be updated to say beryl instead of compiz
[04:36] <Hawkwind> !beryl
[04:36] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[04:37] <Momal> there is a channel for beryl | #beryl |
[04:37] <Hawkwind> physicsnick: You could remove xinetd and reinstall it and get that file back possibly
[04:37] <Hawkwind> Momal: But our support channel is #Ubuntu-XGL
[04:37] <Momal> arr my bad :p
[04:38] <physicsnick> hawkwind, it's not xinetd it's inetd
[04:38] <Momal> Hawkwind: were you the one that suggested "Wink" to me ?
[04:38] <Hawkwind> physicsnick: It comes from xinetd though
[04:38] <Hawkwind> Momal: Possibly
[04:38] <physicsnick> ah
[04:38] <physicsnick> i'm purging xinetd now
[04:38] <physicsnick> thanks
[04:39] <Momal> Hawkwind: you know how to get to work? lol.. seems vncsever wont start for it... and will it work when im running xgl ?
[04:39] <Hawkwind> Probably won't work with XGL, nor vnc I'd assume
[04:39] <Hawkwind> Momal: Big article on Wink on linux.com just yesterday or the day before
[04:40] <foodcoman> I have 2 packages that wont update: kdeedu and kdenetwork.  Anyone know the command that makes dpkg clean stuff up?
[04:40] <Momal> oh i'll have a look for it thanks :)..
[04:40] <Hawkwind> Momal: http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=7589
[04:40] <Hawkwind> Momal: Sorry, it was on madpenguin.org actually
[04:40] <Momal> Hawkwind: Thanks
[04:41] <Hawkwind> No problem
[04:41] <Momal> lol my bad on the vnc was thinking another program :p
[04:43] <Momal> Hawkwind: seems I just get segmentation fault when trying to run :(
[04:58] <Dark_Vampire> !java
[04:58] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:59] <josh_> #ubuntu-xgl
[04:59] <danny500> does anybody know were I can find the file for aMSN that has a record of my loggin passwords?
[05:01] <danny500> anybody?
[05:02] <Hawkwind> I don't know anyone who even uses aMSN.  Most people use Gaim
[05:02] <Hawkwind> Or kopete
[05:02] <danny500> I know
[05:04] <flaccid> danny500: look in ~/.amsn
[05:04] <danny500> yeah
[05:04] <flaccid> i think the passwords are hashed
[05:08] <Momal> Anyway to make programs share the audio?... on the occassion programs like amarok, kaffeine, vlc their audio stop when running another program that uses sound :S
[05:08] <Momal> and I have to restart it to get sound again
[05:08] <Hawkwind> Momal: Does your soundcard support multiple channels ?
[05:09] <h> !de
[05:09] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:09] <h> !java
[05:09] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:09] <HELP> hey guys
[05:10] <flaccid> some audio progams require for access to the audio card, like amarok
[05:10] <flaccid> if the card isn't multiplex, then can't do anything
[05:10] <helppapa> i just powered up my external harddrive via USB and im trying to write to it but it doesnt give me permission. its a windows partition and right now im on kubuntu live cd
[05:10] <helppapa> anyone got any ideas?
[05:10] <flaccid> for=full
[05:10] <neddiW> http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.5.5.php
[05:11] <Dr_willis> helppapa,  you mean a "NTFS" partition? or is it vfat?
[05:11] <flaccid> !mount
[05:11] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:11] <helppapa> im pretty sure its NTFS
[05:11] <Momal> hawkwind: I assume so.... its on my mobo (gigabyte k8n sli pro).... says 8channel audio on the website for its info
[05:11] <flaccid> !ntfswrite
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfswrite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:11] <helppapa> hm?
[05:11] <helppapa> r u giving me clues flaccid? lol
[05:11] <flaccid> !ntfsprogs
[05:11] <ubotu> ntfsprogs: tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 1.12.1-1 (dapper), package size 205 kB, installed size 532 kB
[05:12] <flaccid> yeah i'm trying to find the write ntfs entry
[05:12] <helppapa> oh thank you
[05:12] <flaccid> writing to ntfs is still experimental ad not recommended really
[05:12] <helppapa> im simply trying to save a file from the browser into it but i cant =\
[05:12] <flaccid> but you can do it
[05:12] <helppapa> ohh
[05:12] <flaccid> ntfs read is no problem, write is different
[05:12] <flaccid> !fuse
[05:12] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[05:12] <helppapa> yea =\ i tried changing permissions on properties no go either
[05:12] <flaccid> there it is
[05:13] <helppapa> thanx man
[05:13] <flaccid> np
[05:13] <flaccid> the mount probably requires masking
[05:13] <helppapa> when you say its not safe does that mean everything can be whiped or something by mistake?
[05:13] <helppapa> lol
[05:13] <flaccid> i would expect that as a worst case scenario
[05:13] <helppapa> oh ok thanx
[05:13] <flaccid> now if only windows could read ext* fs
[05:14] <helppapa> haha
[05:14] <helppapa> that would be sweet
[05:14] <flaccid> yeah never will happen :(
[05:15] <helppapa> hey do you have any idea why OS tables on windows look so sharp and on linux they usually look kinda bland?
[05:15] <helppapa> just wondering why windows gets such sharp tables
[05:15] <helppapa> a table should be a table...
[05:15] <flaccid> what sort of table? a coffee table, a poke table?
[05:16] <helppapa> lol
[05:16] <helppapa> like the tables used with a hex color for simple things like window borders
[05:16] <helppapa> or the close button up and down scroll arrows
[05:16] <helppapa> etc
[05:16] <flaccid> using a good theme eliminants the blandness
[05:16] <helppapa> just the ones on the OS itself
[05:16] <flaccid> linux != windows
[05:16] <helppapa> hm i guess i havnt come across any good ones
[05:17] <helppapa> none of them seem sharp
[05:17] <helppapa> oh well hehe
[05:17] <flaccid> most of them look better than windows
[05:17] <flaccid> helppapa: http://kde-look.org go sick..
[05:18] <helppapa> yea im on that one right now
[05:18] <helppapa> i think
[05:18] <helppapa> the top looks great, definitely better than windows
[05:18] <helppapa> but thats an image though..
[05:18] <flaccid> with a bit of exploring you'll find what you want
[05:18] <helppapa> the tables is what im wondering about. just the basic hex # behind a sized table
[05:19] <flaccid> i still don't know what these tables are you are talking about
[05:19] <helppapa> like the grey parts
[05:19] <helppapa> usually
[05:19] <flaccid> yes you can change the colour of them
[05:19] <helppapa> the scrolling buttons and arrows
[05:20] <helppapa> hm
[05:20] <helppapa> thanx :]
[05:20] <flaccid> !themes
[05:20] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[05:20] <flaccid> something to spend hours playing with^^^
[05:20] <helppapa> hehe
[05:21] <flaccid> you could make it exactly how you want if you wanna learn how to create themes/styles
[05:22] <helppapa> yea im thinking about contributing me stuff i do art but no developing at all =\
[05:22] <flaccid> heh so sick of seing this in my konsole ** (process:4732): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[05:22] <Dr_willis> I want a GEOS theme. :)
[05:22] <Dr_willis> like the old C64 Geos
[05:22] <flaccid> havnt you made that yet Dr_willis
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Nope.. Been working on my PORN icons
[05:22] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:22] <flaccid> hehe
[05:23] <vilefridge> It looks like GRUB installs by default to the first HD.  Is it possible to install GRUB to hdc instead of hda?  What would this command look like?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> well can a collection of 'rear ends' be considered porn if they are icon sized?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> vilefridge,  alternative install cd - has that option.  dont think its doable with the live cd.
[05:23] <flaccid> dunno
[05:23] <Dr_willis> after an inatsll you can edit the  menu.lst I think to have update-grub install it somewhere else
[05:24] <Dr_willis> or learn all about grub and do it manually
[05:24] <vilefridge> Dr_willis: alright thanks, I'll look into that :)
[05:25] <Dr_willis> grub is one of those things worth learning ALL about
[05:29] <flaccid> !find egg
[05:29] <ubotu> Found: kfouleggs, egg, eggdrop, eggdrop-data, gcpegg (and 1 others)
[05:30] <flaccid> can someone add http://blog.siliconchaos.net/articles/2006/06/20/my-desktop-got-eggd to ubotu under eggd or something?
[05:30] <Hawkwind> What is eggd ?
[05:30] <flaccid>  ** (process:4337): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL failed
[05:30] <flaccid> a but/error
[05:33] <Hawkwind> !eggd
[05:33] <ubotu> If you are getting errors similar to these: ** (process:4337): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL failed  Please take a look at this page for the fix: http://blog.siliconchaos.net/articles/2006/06/20/my-desktop-got-eggd
[05:33] <Hawkwind> flaccid: That good for ya ?
[05:33] <flaccid> legend
[05:33] <flaccid> lots of people with be happy with that
[05:34] <Hawkwind> flaccid: I agree.  That's a nice helpful bit of information
[05:34] <Hawkwind> I get those errors as well and am now about to see if this fixes it :)
[05:35] <flaccid> sweet
[05:35] <flaccid> i only just stumbled across that site from the mailing list archive
[05:36] <Momal> thats weird.. as soon as you said about that error I just installed something with adept and saw it in the console window :S
[05:37] <Hawkwind> Hmmm, I should actually post that onto my http://LinuxForDummies.org/ forums as well
[05:40] <flaccid> jeje
[05:46] <flaccid> i just upgraded to kde 3.5.5 and my kdm configuration was overwritten. why did it do that?
[05:47] <Dr_willis> I would guess it backed up the original  somewhere..
[05:48] <flaccid> what is the config filename?
[05:49] <Dr_willis> locate kdm | less
[05:49] <flaccid> kdmrc i assume
[05:49] <flaccid> Dr_willis: that will reveal a lot
[05:49] <Dr_willis>   /etc/kde3/kdm
[05:49] <Dr_willis> It showed me where all the kdm configs are at...
[05:49] <Dr_willis> so YeS it did reveal a lot.
[05:49] <Dr_willis> Linux tip#1 - Think. :)
[05:49] <flaccid> my question was actually why
[05:50] <flaccid> linux tip#1 read question
[05:50] <Dr_willis> i would guess that the package mantiker dident put in a 'ask to overwrite' because as far as i have seen Very few config files are treated that way
[05:51] <Dr_willis> the only one i know of that is treated specially is the xorg.conf file
[05:51] <Dr_willis> There may be others.. but ive never seen  apt-get ask about them.
[05:52] <flaccid> it asked about a couple , but that was coz i was installing while kde running so the conf was overwritten during installation and asked to keep old or replace with new
[05:52] <flaccid> but not kdmrc
[05:52] <flaccid> also my konsole font has gone bold
[05:52] <Dr_willis> I think i saw it once ask about the samba config.
[05:52] <flaccid> and i can't get it to go to regular for anything
[05:53] <Dr_willis> I knwo the redhat/rpm system  keeps tracks by just backing up the altered configs to somename.backup.date (i think)
[05:54] <flaccid> yeah
[05:54] <flaccid> thing is if the new version has new config directives, how can it enable those and mantain existing config
[05:54] <Dr_willis> its an interesting problem of what to do.. Gentoo lets you compare the changes/see the diff's and so on.
[05:56] <flaccid> so package managment is far from perfect and its 2006..
[05:57] <Dr_willis> I doubt if it ever will be perfect. :P
[05:57] <Search4Lancer> arrrgh there are two packages that it won't even let me remove... I couldn't install them because something went wrong, and now it won't let me remove them, it's telling me I should reinstall them before removing them
[05:57] <Dr_willis> hmm...
[05:58] <Search4Lancer> I don't remember what for files it was before that I edited to somewhat fix broken packages and let me use the package system again
[05:59] <Dr_willis> ive resorted to using 'aptitude' to fix a few issues simile rto that in the past.. it seems a bit more agressive about fixing things.
[06:00] <Dink> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/805018  <---- Konqueror crash... Happened after recent update... Anyone have ideas or experienced it ??
[06:01] <Search4Lancer> well I don't have much of a way to install aptitude right now.... or anything, for that matter (or maybe I can, lemme check)
[06:01] <Dink> Keeps saying unable to load all the "view" modules
[06:01] <Dink> Detailed, list, tree etc
[06:01] <DaSkreech> Quick question. Can I unrar a Volumed rar file?
[06:02] <Dink> maybe i need a reboot ?
[06:02] <Dr_willis> I thought aptitude was installed by default. :)
[06:02] <Dr_willis> !rar
[06:02] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:02] <Dr_willis> unrar -e whatever.r01 or whatever the first one is.
[06:02] <Search4Lancer> ah, duh, aptitude is already installed...
[06:02] <Dr_willis> or is it 'e'
[06:03] <Dr_willis> heh 'unrar-free' installed the binary named 'unrar-free'
[06:03] <Dr_willis> but then it says  Try `unrar --help' or `unrar --usage' for more information.
[06:03] <flaccid> is it symlinked?
[06:04] <Dr_willis> i got no 'unrar'  its called 'unrar-free'          /usr/bin/unrar-free
[06:04] <flaccid> what boobs
[06:04] <Dr_willis> I seem to recall having an unrar once...
[06:04] <Dr_willis> !info unrar-free
[06:04] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[06:05] <XTREME06> hallo
[06:05] <Dr_willis> !info upn
[06:05] <ubotu> Package upn does not exist in any distro I know
[06:05] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[06:05] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (dapper), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[06:05] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Damn wasn't that fixed?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  apraently not
[06:06] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: can you fix it?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  cp unrar-free unrar
[06:06] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:06] <Dr_willis> and its fixed..or ln -s
[06:06] <DaSkreech> NO I mean click onthe link in !rar
[06:06] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:07] <Dr_willis> !rar
[06:07] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:07] <DaSkreech> See?
[06:07] <Dink> unrar is in multiverse/utils
[06:08] <DaSkreech> I have unrar :)
[06:08] <DaSkreech> It's just that ark doesn't seem to like Volumes
[06:09] <Dr_willis> that link works for me.
[06:09] <Dr_willis> wine winrar.exe
[06:09] <Dr_willis> :) works also,.
[06:09] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Really?
[06:09] <DaSkreech> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression.
[06:09] <DaSkreech> That works?
[06:09] <Dr_willis>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[06:10] <Dr_willis> i was just there
[06:10] <DaSkreech> Yes that's not what Ubotu says though
[06:10] <Dink> brb going to reboot... konqueror having SIGABRT issues
[06:10] <Dr_willis> I just right clicked on the ubotus link that it said....
[06:10] <Dink> DaSkreech ive had no problem in the past with unrar/ark with volumes
[06:11] <DaSkreech> Dink: Nice to know. Did you open them all at one time?
[06:11] <Dink> yea
[06:11] <DaSkreech> Let me try that
[06:11] <josef> hai is there a program or not that convert dvd to  mpeg
[06:11] <Dink> i even click on just one and it did them
[06:11] <josef> or package
[06:11] <Dink> depends on the way it was packaged
[06:11] <ArrenLex> josef: several. mencoder, for example (part of mplayer).
[06:11] <Dink> i would test again but cant open any dirs righ tnow :p
[06:12] <DaSkreech> Dink: how does that work? no cd allowed?
[06:12] <Dink> sorry dont understand
[06:13] <josef> arrenlex:hai, its only a part right  but i need a name of a complete package
[06:13] <ArrenLex> josef: mplayer
[06:13] <ArrenLex> !mplayer
[06:13] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[06:13] <DaSkreech> You can't change into a Directory?
[06:13] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[06:14] <Dink> something funky with konqueror
[06:14] <Dink> my konqueror
[06:14] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[06:14] <Dink> i ran updates now everytime I try to click on a dir... get a backtrace error
[06:15] <Dink> was thinking about rebooting...kept saying unable to load "details, list, tree view" modules
[06:15] <DaSkreech> Nope trying to open all of them opens them one by one and trying to extract them all  extracts the first one then the rest complain that the folder already exists
[06:15] <Dink> try right click extract to on just one
[06:15] <smaggard> hi
[06:15] <josef> arrenlex, ok thanks and ubotu you too....bye
[06:15] <Dink> it should read the others
[06:15] <DaSkreech> Didn't
[06:16] <Dink> hmm hold let me see which on i have
[06:16] <Dink> ok i have unrar AND unrar-free
[06:16] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[06:16] <Dink> :P
[06:17] <Dr_willis> Im wondering if some of the repos have unrar.
[06:17] <Dr_willis> plf perhaps?
[06:17] <soundmaster80> hi all, i asked this on ubuntu and haven't gotten a reply....my lost+found directory is a bit large. I'm wondering if i can delete it and another one is auto created
[06:17] <soundmaster80> or is there a command i use to dump it
[06:17] <Dink> anyway to tell ?
[06:17] <Dr_willis> if things have been found and put in the lost and found dir... hmm ya may want to look in thee and see what its found
[06:17] <smaggard> hmm
[06:18] <Dr_willis> Dink,  try unrar --version and unrar-free --version ?
[06:18] <ArrenLex> soundmaster: why not just delete the files you don't need inside it?
[06:18] <DaSkreech> I have unrar
[06:18] <ArrenLex> alex@ubuntu:~$ zoo
[06:18] <ArrenLex> bash: zoo: command not found
[06:18] <ArrenLex> o_O? @ dr_willis
[06:18] <DaSkreech> which I think should be !unrar-free
[06:18] <Dr_willis> !info zoo
[06:19] <ubotu> zoo: manipulate zoo archives. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.10-17 (dapper), package size 59 kB, installed size 152 kB
[06:19] <Dink> unrar 0.0.1 <---unrar-free and UNRAR 3.51 freeware <--- unrar
[06:19] <soundmaster80> there is nothing in it
[06:19] <ArrenLex> Zoo archives, eh? Well, sure heard of those. Yep. Sure have. o_o
[06:19] <soundmaster80> however it shows to be the biggest size folder i have
[06:19] <ArrenLex> Good ol'.. zoos. I remember the great zoo archive scare of '89. Good times.
[06:19] <Dink> DaSkreech install both ;)
[06:19] <DaSkreech> Same one I have
[06:19] <soundmaster80> i did df -h and i'm using 17 out of 18gb
[06:19] <DaSkreech>  Which one are you using?
[06:19] <Dr_willis> soundmaster80,  then.. err.. try ls -al  in that dir.
[06:20] <Dink> I just righ click and extract on one file and reads the rest
[06:20] <Dink> works for me all the time
[06:20] <soundmaster80> drwxr-xr-x  2 root     root 49152 2006-08-08 20:50 .
[06:20] <soundmaster80> drwxr-xr-x 21 jonathan 1001  4096 2006-05-18 05:43
[06:20] <soundmaster80> that's what appears
[06:20] <DaSkreech> Blast!!
[06:20] <DaSkreech> can I send you the files and you send me back the contents :)
[06:20] <Dink> lol
[06:20] <Dr_willis> soundmaster80,  look in those dirs..   see whats in tehre.
[06:21] <Dink> brb going to see if rebooting fixes my konqueror problems
[06:21] <smaggard> lol  lol lol
[06:21] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. was just at a torrent search site -- it replied ->  error '8000ffff'     Catastrophic failure
[06:21] <ArrenLex> XD
[06:22] <helppapa> hey guys im on linux live cd and im simply trying to put some files i downloaded into my windows harddrive but it wont let me. any ideas?
[06:22] <Dr_willis> helppapa,  you really dont want to write to a ntfs partition from within linux
[06:22] <ArrenLex> helppapa: you can't write to ntfs from l... yes.
[06:23] <soundmaster80> for some reason i can't enter that directory
[06:23] <helppapa> i know that its risky to do it but im willing to take the risk
[06:23] <helppapa> :)
[06:23] <ArrenLex> !fuse
[06:23] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:23] <ArrenLex> I think you need to install stuff, though. i.e. you can't do it from the livecd.
[06:23] <helppapa> ahhh
[06:23] <helppapa> =[
[06:23] <helppapa> yea i tried fuse, its already installed on kubuntu
[06:24] <Dr_willis> I think you can install some things with the/on  the live cd..  but not a lot.
[06:24] <helppapa> but for some reason it says the drive doesnt exist or something when i try to mount
[06:24] <Dr_willis> I recall some live cd's (not ubuntu's) that had ntfs write support.
[06:24] <Dr_willis> helppapa,  make sure the dir you are mounting TO exists
[06:24] <helppapa> yea this one definitely doesnt =\ no permissions
[06:24] <Search4Lancer> a-ha, finally got things fixed... Sun's EULA wasn't working correctly in Adept, but worked just fine in aptitude... thanks for suggesting that Dr_willis
[06:24] <helppapa> it says it doesnt but im sure it does, how can i check to be sure its the right name?
[06:25] <Dr_willis> Search4Lancer,  heh - ive had aptitude help.. then ive had it do really weird things
[06:27] <DaSkreech> bloody rar file
[06:27] <helppapa> guys :( im pretty sure that my drive exists but it says it doesnt in the command line when i tr to mount it with ntfsmount
[06:29] <Dr_willis> helppapa,  you need to give us some more detailed error messages.. its possible you are doing somtning trivial wrong
[06:29] <helppapa> well im simply typing sudo ntfsmount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 -o umask=0007
[06:30] <Dr_willis> I dont even have a ntfsmount command..
[06:30] <helppapa> to mount the ntfs drive but then it says no such file or directory exists
[06:30] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:30] <helppapa> =[
[06:30] <Dr_willis>  - /media/hda1 exists ? you did make the dir?
[06:30] <ArrenLex> Does /media/hda1 exist?
[06:30] <helppapa> hmm i dont think i made it..
[06:30] <Dr_willis> thats what i asked 5 min ago.. :P
[06:31] <helppapa> sorry =\
[06:31] <Dink> DaSkreech
[06:31] <Dink> what are the file names ?
[06:31] <DaSkreech> Dink
[06:31] <Dr_willis> its not the drive that exists.. its the MOUNTPOINT directory. :)
[06:31] <DaSkreech> part1.rar
[06:31] <DaSkreech> part2.rar
[06:31] <helppapa> i see now hehe
[06:31] <helppapa> how do i create it?
[06:31] <Dink> ohh thats are attached/volumed
[06:31] <Dr_willis> thats an oddly named rar.
[06:31] <Dink> arent*
[06:31] <Dr_willis> mkdir /media/whatever
[06:31] <helppapa> thank you sir
[06:31] <Dink> you have to extract them seperate
[06:32] <DaSkreech> I'm telling you I can't
[06:32] <DaSkreech> It;s name.part1.rar btw
[06:32] <DaSkreech> not just part1
[06:32] <Dink> extract part1.rar then do part2.rar
[06:32] <DaSkreech> It tries to reextract part1
[06:33] <helppapa> JESUS it still says no such file or directory..
[06:33] <Dink> get both unrar and then try :P
[06:33] <Dr_willis> helppapa,  whats the exact errpr message?
[06:33] <satafterh> is kde 3.5.5 much differant?
[06:34] <Dink> but most volumed rar ive seen are usually rar,r01,r02 etc
[06:34] <Dr_willis> satafterh,  not taht i noticed.
[06:34] <helppapa> fuse: failed to exec fusermount: No such file or directory
[06:34] <Dr_willis> satafterh,  littel tweaks here and there.
[06:34] <helppapa> fuse_mount failed
[06:34] <helppapa> Unmounting:
[06:34] <Dink> gtg wife bitching :P
[06:34] <satafterh> ok thx
[06:34] <Dink> good luck man hit me up tomorrow if you still have problems
[06:34] <Dr_willis> helppapa,  sounds like you dont have the fuse tools installed.
[06:34] <Dink> nite
[06:35] <Dr_willis> fusermount   bash: /usr/bin/fusermount: Permission denied
[06:35] <helppapa> =\ i did apt get and it said they were at the latest version... maybe  i apt-get the wrong tools
[06:35] <helppapa> huh?
[06:35] <Dr_willis> type 'fusermount'
[06:35] <Dr_willis> and see
[06:35] <helppapa> k
[06:35] <helppapa> command not found
[06:35] <helppapa> hmm
[06:36] <helppapa> cant find package fusermount on apt-get damn
[06:36] <helppapa> leme search for it
[06:36] <Dr_willis> !find fuse
[06:36] <ubotu> Found: libfuse-dev, libfuse2, linux-image-2.6.15-23-386, linux-image-2.6.15-23-686, linux-image-2.6.15-23-k7 (and 27 others)
[06:36] <helppapa> ohh sweet bots :D
[06:36] <Dr_willis> im not even sure HOW fuse lets you write to ntfs drives
[06:37] <helppapa> lol
[06:37] <Dr_willis> !fuse
[06:37] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:37] <helppapa> jeeze which one should i get?
[06:37] <Dr_willis> No idea.. i dont screw with the ubuntu live cd.. i find live cd's that got the tools i need included. :
[06:37] <Blacken> Hrm, why does module-assistant insist on creating for me an i386 kernel instead of 686?
[06:37] <helppapa> ah ok thanx
[06:38] <ArrenLex> Blacken: are you running a 386 kernel?
[06:38] <helppapa> crapola
[06:39] <Dr_willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse tells ya           sudo apt-get install libfuse2 ntfsprogs fuse-utils
[06:39] <helppapa> oo!
[06:39] <maryen> why so many kernel updates in edgy?
[06:39] <maryen> !edgy
[06:39] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:39] <maryen> !schedule
[06:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:40] <helppapa> !find fuse-utils
[06:40] <ubotu> Found: fuse-utils
[06:40] <helppapa> :|
[06:40] <maryen> lo
[06:40] <maryen> l
[06:40] <maryen> !ntfs
[06:40] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:40] <Dr_willis> helppapa,  that URL is rathher easy to follow.. :P
[06:40] <Blacken> ArrenLex: I am running a 386 kernel now, because when I enabled the fglrx module, it built a 386 kernel. And a 2.4.x SMP kernel beside it.
[06:41] <helppapa> i know i been following it, and many other things, nothing seems to work :(
[06:41] <helppapa> everything is installed to the latest version yet fusermount doesnt work
[06:41] <ArrenLex> Blacken: module-assistant builds for your current kernel. Otherwise you won't be able to load the module.
[06:41] <maryen> brb gotta update and reinstall nvidia and ndiswrapper
[06:41] <helppapa> then when i use ntfsmount and stuff it says the directory doesnt exist for my mount point even though i did make it
[06:41] <helppapa> sigh
[06:42] <satafterh> how is Kubuntu 6.10 Beta? pretty stable?
[06:42] <maryen> yep
[06:42] <satafterh> worth the upgrade you think?
[06:42] <helppapa> i wonder if theres a way to crack or override the permissons so i can just freakin drag and drop into the drive :|
[06:42] <maryen> very much so
[06:42] <Blacken> ArrenLex: Okay...so the 2.4.x kernel that magically appeared is...?
[06:42] <ArrenLex> Blacken:...? o_O
[06:42] <maryen> helppapa, is your ntfs partition clean?
[06:43] <satafterh> can I just upgrade from adept manager?
[06:43] <maryen> yes
[06:43] <maryen> not sure how though
[06:43] <Dr_willis> helppapa,  that URL tells you exactly how to mount a ntfs partition
[06:43] <Dr_willis> helppapa,  i am guessing you missed a step
[06:43] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[06:43] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:44] <helppapa> what do you mean by clean?
[06:44] <helppapa> i have followed every step and nothing works
[06:44] <helppapa> :(
[06:44] <Dr_willis> helppapa,  you did somthing wrong then.. or the live cd is the issue..
[06:44] <Dr_willis> I just followed that url.. and it worked.
[06:45] <helppapa> u simply typed sudo ntfsmount...etc and it worked?
[06:45] <Dr_willis> i followed the guide..
[06:45] <Dr_willis> installed the packages.. loaded the module and used the command they showed
[06:46] <Dr_willis> sudo ntfsmount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 -o umask=0007
[06:46] <Dr_willis> that let my root user get to my ntfs drive and create a file.
[06:46] <satafterh> hello people, thinking about upgradeing to Kubuntu 6.10 Beta and want to do it through adept manger, where can i find the deb: to put in my source list?
[06:46] <helppapa> =\
[06:46] <Dark_Vampire> how do this other packet manager call again? sy......?
[06:47] <DaSkreech> satafterh: Just change all occurences of dapper to edgy
[06:47] <Dr_willis> synaptic - is the gnome/ubuntu default package manager
[06:47] <DaSkreech> Then relaod sources and click on upgrade
[06:47] <Donkeybreath> check out my site www.jpegtown.com tell me what you think of the coding, just finished it up
[06:47] <maryen> hey daskreech
[06:47] <DaSkreech> hi maryen
[06:47] <Dark_Vampire> thanks Dr_willis
[06:49] <Dr_willis> Donkeybreath we think it sucks
[06:49] <Dr_willis> but you are just a spam bot.. so we dont care.
[06:49] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:50] <maryen> i was about to say, you shouldnt be so mean
[06:50] <Dr_willis> maryen,  hes been spamming #ubuntu all night.. and just now got kick/banned.
[06:50] <maryen> ok brb gotta go recompile drivers
[06:50] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:50] <linux_galore> aaaaaargh new kde packages
[06:50] <maryen> hmm
[06:50] <linux_galore> heh heh
[06:51] <maryen> yes they've been loading them on edgy all day
[06:51] <maryen> apparently edgy is going to come with 3.5.5.
[06:51] <Dark_Vampire> how to get mp3 support in amarok?
[06:51] <linux_galore> yeah I have updated my laptop (dapper) already
[06:51] <maryen> !mp3
[06:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:52] <Dark_Vampire> thanks
[06:52] <maryen> np
[06:52] <helppapa> !find ntfsprogs-fuse
[06:52] <ubotu> Package/file ntfsprogs-fuse does not exist in dapper
[06:52] <helppapa> !find fuse library
[06:52] <ubotu> Found: libfuse-dev, libfuse2, linux-image-2.6.15-23-386, linux-image-2.6.15-23-686, linux-image-2.6.15-23-k7 (and 27 others)
[06:52] <linux_galore> or just click on an mp3 file and it should add support (did for me)
[06:53] <maryen> hmm
[06:53] <maryen> maybe they added the updated amarok to dapper too
[06:53] <maryen> didn't use to do that
[06:53] <linux_galore> I installed 6.06.1
[06:54] <maryen> didnt use to do that in 6.06.1
[06:54] <linux_galore> I dropped a mp3 file on the desktop and out of curiosity clicked on it and it asked to enable the repo and download support
[06:55] <maryen> hmm, i think ill install the latest ndiswrapper, somehow
[06:55] <maryen> and im saying it didnt use to do that in dapper linux_galore
[06:55] <linux_galore> maryen: so its a feature huh
[06:55] <linux_galore> or a new one
[06:56] <maryen> yep
[06:56] <linux_galore> pretty nice
[06:56] <satafterh> when i enter the following command i get error thats its and unknown command, any idea's any one? sudo sed -e s/\sdapper/ edgy/g -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:57] <linux_galore> satafterh: do you have sed installed
[06:57] <satafterh> dont know lol
[06:57] <linux_galore> satafterh: type se[TAB]
[06:58] <satafterh> nothing happen, just made a sound
[06:59] <maryen> brb
[06:59] <linux_galore> you might have to hit the tab key twice
[06:59] <satafterh> its installed
[07:00] <satafterh> root@robin-desktop:~# sudo sed -e s/\sdapper/ edgy/g -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:00] <satafterh> sed: -e expression #1, char 1: unknown command: `
[07:00] <satafterh> thats what i get
[07:00] <orient2000> I am trying to use Audiocity to convert wma file to mp3 and I need file libmp3lame.so    I can not find this file anywhere.
[07:01] <Dr_willis> sounds like a typo/bug in the bash completion scripts.
[07:01] <Dr_willis> !find lame
[07:01] <ubotu> Found: flamethrower, glame, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse, systemimager-server-flamethrowerd, toolame (and 5 others)
[07:01] <Dr_willis> /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0.0.0
[07:01] <Dr_willis> hmm.. now how to tell what pacakge i used to GET that lib file
[07:01] <Dr_willis> I forget how to do that
[07:03] <linux_galore> sed -e 's/\sdapper/ edgy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list works
[07:03] <Dr_willis> orient2000,  i would guess i installed the lame program and it installed that lib. I use lame for my mp3 encodieng with grip
[07:03] <bimberi_> 'dpkg -S /path/to/file'  will tell you which package a file came from
[07:04] <linux_galore> satafterh:  whats the \s  for
[07:04] <satafterh> thats one worked thx
[07:04] <Dr_willis> willis@Audigy:~$ dpkg -S /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0
[07:04] <Dr_willis> liblame0: /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0
[07:05] <orient2000> file is not there
[07:05] <orient2000> it does not come with audiocity
[07:05] <Dark_Vampire> he tells me that libxine-extracodecs dont have a "installation canidate" what do that mean?
[07:05] <orient2000> maybe come with grip
[07:06] <linux_galore> Dr_willis: search for file name within the packages
[07:06] <Dr_willis> orient2000,  NO.. it came with the lame encoded i think
[07:06] <orient2000> no libmp3lime.so in adept
[07:07] <Dr_willis> liblame0 - LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder
[07:07] <Dr_willis> is the pacakge it seems to come in. :P
[07:07] <orient2000> I go check it out
[07:07] <Dr_willis> just like dpkg -S /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0  said.. :P amazing.. heh heh -- what an odd name for a package
[07:09] <Dark_Vampire> !java
[07:09] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:10] <linux_galore> Dr_willis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98302&highlight=libmp3lame
[07:10] <linux_galore> same problem with the fix
[07:10] <linux_galore> need to create a link
[07:14] <unix_infidel> anyone know if its possible to use a vm in vmware-server without being in X?
[07:15] <linux_galore> hmm libmp3lame seems to be part of VLC
[07:15] <linux_galore> weird
[07:16] <ironfroggy> any amarok experts around?
[07:16] <linux_galore> unix_infidel: can see why not
[07:16] <linux_galore> cant*
[07:16] <unix_infidel> linux_galore: how would i go about that?
[07:16] <orient2000> I found it but conversion to mp3 is some garbage, noise. It does not work properly.
[07:17] <linux_galore> orient2000: might be a drm version
[07:17] <Dark_Vampire> !limewire
[07:17] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network.  In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.1-4 (dapper), package size 440 kB, installed size 1268 kB
[07:19] <Dr_willis> ot does Not as far as i know convert from one format to another.. OTHER then cd/wav to whatever you tell it to.
[07:19] <Dr_willis> grip works very well for my CD ripping/encoding needs.
[07:20] <linux_galore> yeah i use grip for cd's. works great
[07:20] <linux_galore> just dont select a bit rate thats too high
[07:20] <orient2000> does grip convert wav to mp3?
[07:21] <linux_galore> orient2000: I use audacity for that
[07:21] <unix_infidel> that would be painful to convert 100 .wav files to mp3.
[07:21] <Dr_willis> orient2000,  it ripps the cd tracks to wav, then converts them to whatever ya tell it to
[07:22] <Dr_willis> then removes the .wav's (from what i can seein the grip logs)
[07:23] <orient2000> OK I wwill get grip and take a look.
[07:23] <Dark_Vampire> well I've installed java now :)
[07:23] <Dr_willis> weee
[07:23] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:24] <Dark_Vampire> but in the readme of limewire stands "You must place Sun's JRE in the path prior to launching LimeWire" what do that mean then? i runned the runlime.sh but he tell me he cant find java
[07:26] <linux_galore> Dark_Vampire: dont forget to run sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:26] <mabreaux> does anyone run noteedit.   I have tried several times and still can not get it loaded
[07:26] <mabreaux> or to run
[07:27] <linux_galore> whats noteedit
[07:27] <mabreaux> music score editor
[07:27] <linux_galore> mabreaux: type  note[TAB]   twice  see if it shows up
[07:28] <linux_galore> [TAB]  = tab key
[07:28] <Dr_willis> Dark_Vampire,  do 'java -version'
[07:28] <Dr_willis> Dark_Vampire,  and see what java is being used by default.
[07:28] <Dark_Vampire> i think i got it....
[07:28] <linux_galore> mabreaux: if nothing shows up its either not installed or it not in your path
[07:28] <Dr_willis> Ok. :P
[07:29] <Dr_willis> ive never had do much more then install java, update the alternatives. and then install whatever.
[07:29] <Dr_willis> !limewire
[07:29] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[07:29] <Dr_willis> I found FrostWire - nicer then Limewire :P
[07:29] <Dark_Vampire> yes
[07:29] <mabreaux> found it and it crashes with a signal 6
[07:30] <linux_galore> Ive been using kmldonkey  it supports just about everything
[07:30] <Dark_Vampire> limewire is running :)
[07:30] <linux_galore> yep even bittorent and gnutella
[07:32] <pajama> Is there any workaround for Bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/15451 ?
[07:33] <mabreaux> i tried running it (noteedit) which is kde on 6.06 and 6.10 and it crashes with a signal 6 in both installations
[07:35] <Dark_Vampire> !mp3
[07:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:44] <DaSkreech> gnight
[07:45] <javo> hey hello  #
[07:45] <javo> hum just installed the systemm . very nice i must say
[07:46] <javo> is there any way  to move the instalation from vmware to real hd ?
[07:49] <pacman> anyone know how I can improve my 3d acceleration?
[07:50] <sF|Xemanth> oh sweet dapper here i am again <3 <3 <3 no edgy for me yet
[08:02] <Ayabara> I still have KDE 3.5.2 in my kubuntu install. what do I need to add to my repos to get 3.5.5?
[08:07] <Jucato> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php <--- just add one of the repos listed
[08:09] <Ayabara> Jucato, thanks for the tip :-)
[08:09] <cpk2> bah, i am too lazy to upgrade to .5
[08:09] <cpk2> i mean .4 was like a month ago
[08:10] <Jucato> well, it's not a compulsory update anyway
[08:10] <mabreaux> does anyone know of a music score editor for kde....
[08:10] <Jucato> heck you can even stay with KDE 3.5.2 if you want :)
[08:11] <Jucato> cpk2: btw, KDE 3.5.4 was released in August. so basically 2 months ago :D
[08:21] <kraut> moin
[08:26] <Kragnerac> Hello, when I try to download a deb fron the web in Konqueror, it opens up in kate automatically. I have tried to change this in file associations, but to no avail. Is there a way to make it promt me, or at least open in gdebi?
[08:31] <bioticpro> Is xDVDShrink or K9Copy better?
[08:32] <lunar_raven> hey guys i have a question..my friend is trying to install kubuntu, and the live-cd is so incredibly slow for him he can barely do anything...but it shouldnt be
[08:32] <lunar_raven> i had the same problem on my laptop
[08:32] <lunar_raven> but not my pc
[08:32] <lunar_raven> anyone know why possibly?
[08:33] <Ayabara> in fedora I mounted some network drives with 'mount -t cifs'. kubuntu says "wrong fs type" when I run the same command.
[08:34] <Kragnerac> lunar_raven: Have you tried running the LiveCD in "Safe Graphics Mode"? I ran it in the normal mode, and it was very slow, but I tried safe graphics mode, and there was a very signifigant increase in performance.
[08:34] <flaccid> Ayabara: try using smbfs instead of cifs
[08:35] <lunar_raven> well, my friend is trying to install it..but i'll tell him now
[08:37] <Kragnerac> Write a line of code, eat a lime. :)
[08:37] <Ayabara> flaccid, installed smbfs and tried again. now I get 'SMB connection failed'
[08:38] <unix_infidel> does it take a reboot to reset a hostname edited in /etc/hosts
[08:38] <Dark_Vampire> !mp3
[08:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:39] <Kragnerac> !konqueror
[08:39] <ubotu> konqueror: KDE's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 1911 kB, installed size 5168 kB
[08:39] <flaccid> Ayabara: that is your smb server problem, not the client
[08:39] <flaccid> unix_infidel: no. run the command hostname host instead of rebooting
[08:40] <unix_infidel> flaccid: but isnt that temporary.
[08:40] <unix_infidel> does it look up /etc/hosts on next boot
[08:40] <flaccid> unix_infidel: it is until you reboot yes
[08:40] <flaccid> yes i belive so iirc
[08:48] <LoudThud> this sucks
[08:49] <orient2000> what sucks?
[08:50] <maryen> loudthud does
[08:50] <wiza> anyone knows where can I change volume stepping for thinkpad's volume up/down keys? it doesn't seem to give a flying ... about kmilo's config
[08:51] <maryen> regional settings in system settings
[08:51] <maryen> have fun
[08:51] <LoudThud> hhmmm
[08:51] <orient2000> ALT F2 kontrol?
[08:52] <orient2000> is it safe to update to KDE 3.5.5 ?
[08:52] <maryen> yes
[08:52] <maryen> its very stable
[08:52] <obf213> i just downloaded an amaork script off of kde-apps.org, but i have no clue wht to do next
[08:52] <obf213> is there some amarok scritps program i need
[08:53] <maryen> amarok script?
[08:53] <maryen> never heard of it
[08:53] <obf213> yes
[08:53] <obf213> there are lots of script, the one i downloaded is a format converter
[08:54] <wiza> it worked perfectly in dapper but it seems that someone broke it :(
[08:54] <wiza> now up/down vol buttons change volume by 7-11%
[08:56] <Ayabara> anyone know how I can adjust the emacs font size in kubuntu?
[08:56] <obf213> the script is a .py a python program
[08:56] <obf213> but when i click it i just see text
[08:57] <wiza> obf213: you have x flag set?
[08:57] <wiza> obf213: so it's executable?
[08:57] <obf213> wiza: how do i do that
[08:57] <wiza> chmod 755 myscript.py
[08:57] <obf213> wiza i dont hink so, i think had similar problem with java until swtiched somoething around
[08:57] <wiza> lemme test
[08:59] <obf213> wiza im still seeing the xml or w/e
[08:59] <obf213> i think there is a menu i need to change wht the program opens with
[08:59] <wiza> click properties
[09:00] <obf213> i had to do the same thing before
[09:00] <flaccid> obf213: you add the script in amarok
[09:00] <flaccid> from the menu
[09:00] <obf213> ooo ok
[09:00] <wiza> aah, in amarok yeah, if you want to just click and execute scripts you need to bind .py files to /usr/bin/python
[09:00] <obf213> wiza how do i do that
[09:01] <obf213> i think i did that with my java files there was a menu i went to
[09:01] <wiza> click properties on some .py file, right side of the type row, there is a button
[09:01] <wiza> click it
[09:01] <wiza> then there is program order for that type, click add, and add /usr/bin/python to it
[09:02] <obf213> i cant find wht ur talking about
[09:02] <obf213> right side of the type row, there is a button
[09:02] <obf213> wht does that mean
[09:03] <obf213> wiza nvm
[09:04] <wiza> where it says Type: Python Program [button]
[09:04] <wiza> I have a button with picture of wrench
[09:04] <wiza> in the .py file's properties window
[09:05] <Ayabara> anyone here using emacs?
[09:05] <Ayabara> I need some help on finding a good font...
[09:13] <Dark-Vampire> !mp3
[09:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:15] <orient2000> try ALT F2 kontrol for emacs fonts
[09:29] <Electrolyte> Hi all - I've just installed kernel-image-2.6.15-27-686-SMP and now I can't get fglrx to work.
[09:29] <Bedo> Hi Electrolyte
[09:29] <Electrolyte> I've tried reinstalling it and reconfiguring it, and it still refuses to work :/
[09:29] <Bedo> mmm
[09:29] <Electrolyte> I'm stuck on Mesa at the moment.
[09:30] <Bedo> i've read something about a week ago
[09:30] <Bedo> have you tried google?
[09:30] <Electrolyte> Not yet because the browser is going slow :/
[09:31] <Electrolyte> And I haven't a clue what to even search for.
[09:31] <Bedo> try searching "kubuntu smp fglrx"
[09:33] <Electrolyte> Think I've found what's missing.
[09:34] <Bedo> what?
[09:36] <Electrolyte> lol thought so.
[09:36] <Electrolyte> I forgot linux-restricted-modules.
[09:36] <Bedo> lol
[09:36] <Bedo> that's pretty necessary :)
[09:43] <livingdaylight> whilst trying to install and enable nvidia 3d something has gone wrong. when i Cnt+Alt+Backspace the system freezes/stalls and i didn't see the nvidia logo like i was told to expect to. Fortunately, my old Xorgconf.files are backed up by default - right? and i just need to retrieve those. what is the command for retrieving backup, please?
[09:44] <livingdaylight> in the ubuntuguide to backup would be: sudo cp -p /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup
[09:44] <Ahmuck> anybody get a linksys wusb54gc working in kubuntu ?
[09:44] <livingdaylight> In this given example how would i retrieve the backup would i need to as i do now with my xorg.confiles
[09:44] <livingdaylight> ?
[09:46] <abattoir> livingdaylight: try 'sudo dexconf'
[09:52] <livingdaylight> abattoir: before i try that, can you tell me what its supposed to do?
[09:56] <livingdaylight> Anyone know where the xorg_backup is kept when attempting to enable 3d. After sudo enable nvidia-glx and Cnt+Alt+Backspace the xorg file is backed up and kept where? it was /var or /opt but alas i didn't write it down coz i thought i'd remember or even thought it would just work (i'm so dumb)
[10:00] <jonah13> can someone help me out with a problem i have - kubuntu on a g3 imac?
[10:00] <jonah13> i have no sound
[10:01] <fonger> ok thanks
[10:02] <berkes|afk> heh, whats the shortcut command to make the menu appear again?
[10:03] <berkes|afk> I somehow removed it in "konversation" :)
[10:07] <SubNet> Hi there! Does anybody know when KDE 3.5.5 will be available for Dapper?
[10:09] <livingdaylight> abattoir: ok, so don't tell me what sudo dexconf does
[10:10] <KDEfanboy> SubNet: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php
[10:11] <SubNet> KDEfanboy: Thx :)
[10:12] <KDEfanboy> :)
[10:24] <Momal> Good idea to update to kde3.5.5? im currently at 3.5.3
[10:31] <KDEfanboy> yep
[10:45] <gupta> !klogd
[10:45] <ubotu> klogd: Kernel Logging Daemon. In component main, is important. Version 1.4.1-17ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 39 kB, installed size 132 kB
[10:45] <gupta> damn! is doesn't seem safe to switch off klogd..
[10:45] <gupta> it*
[10:46] <gupta> but It comsumes 80% cpu most of the time
[10:46] <Momal> Nooooooo... updating kde will break :'(
[10:46] <gupta> what to do?
[10:46] <Momal> hmm.. lol maybe because kdm still running :p.. silly me :p
[10:52] <Squatch> How do I set preferred apps in KDE?
[10:55] <flo> hallo an alle die deutsch sprechen!
[10:55] <flo> :)
[10:56] <brauerle> any known problems with the KDE 3.5.5 uprade?
[10:56] <KDEfanboy>  !de
[10:56] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:57] <Momal> omg... kde 3.5.5 update changed font? seems my fonts are more pixel fonts but they aren't as good as they were before :S
[10:57] <Momal> and my systray icons are larger :S
[10:57] <fildo> hehe
[10:58] <Squatch> Wow, yeah, you're right now that I think about it.  Didn't realize those changes were made until you just mentioned it though lol.
[10:58] <fildo> look @ changelog, will disclose all info about update
[10:58] <flo> hmmm
[10:58] <Momal> yea damn.. the font isn't that much to bother me but now I have a longer task bar >_<... I want my 2 rows again :(
[10:58] <flo> not known
[10:58] <flo> whats the repos. to get the packages?
[10:59] <fildo> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper main
[10:59] <flo> thanks
[10:59] <flo> and then apt-get install update ?
[10:59] <flo> upgrade
[10:59] <fildo> flo: no problems mate
[10:59] <_thumper_> is there a reason why kde-latest hasn't been moved to kde-355?
[10:59] <fildo> sudo apt-get update
[10:59] <flo> okay
[10:59] <fildo> sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:59] <flo> thx a lot
[10:59] <flo> ;)
[10:59] <fildo> thats why im here!
[10:59] <flo> I've activated my root account ;)
[10:59] <flo> like debian ;)
[10:59] <fildo> one big happy community
[11:00] <Momal> lol
[11:00] <fildo> yeh first thing u should do .
[11:00] <_thumper_> http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest still points to kde-354
[11:00] <Squatch> How do you edit MIME types to change default app associations?
[11:01] <flo> i've problem with rep. source
[11:01] <flo> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
[11:01] <flo> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release: Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht geprft werden weil der zugehrige ffentliche Schlssel nicht zur Verfgung steht: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[11:01] <flo> W: Sie mchten vielleicht apt-get update aufrufen, um diese Probleme zu lsen
[11:01] <flo> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release:
[11:01] <flo> wrong rep?
[11:01] <fildo> i didnt get it
[11:01] <KDEfanboy> flo: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php
[11:01] <flo> sorry - i', newbie :-(
[11:02] <fildo> weird. but just import key
[11:02] <flo> it works - thank you! :)
[11:02] <flo> where do you come from?
[11:02] <fildo> aus
[11:03] <brauerle> ger
[11:03] <flo> austria :)
[11:03] <fildo> but born in poland
[11:03] <groovesalad> nice nice
[11:03] <groovesalad> :)
[11:03] <fildo> yerp
[11:03] <fildo> pizza's here. brb
[11:04] <groovesalad> mhhh pizza
[11:04] <groovesalad> ;)
[11:04] <groovesalad> diavolo
[11:04] <groovesalad> or like homer: mmhhhh - beeeeer ;) LOL
[11:05] <groovesalad> anyone use the ubuntu-server?
[11:05] <Momal> weird my fonts still seem to be set to the same as before and AA is enabled for them... why do they show werid now :S
[11:05] <groovesalad> hmmm - maybe you have to upgrade your graphic driver @ momal
[11:06] <Momal> It only just happened since I updated kde
[11:06] <Momal> like 10min ago
[11:06] <groovesalad> mhm
[11:06] <Momal> they are sorta like pixel fonts now and before they weren't :S
[11:06] <groovesalad> maybe the kde upgrade overwrites oder mod your xorg.conf
[11:06] <groovesalad> oder = or (sorry)
[11:06] <Momal> i'll have a lookies...
[11:07] <groovesalad> okay
[11:07] <Momal> it did change my kdmrc if they can effect it.. might restore my back up... would it still be fine under new kde?
[11:07] <groovesalad> try to reinstall your graphicdrivers!
[11:08] <SubNet> Does someone know, why Adept has no option to manage the Repos in Edgy (menu-entry is grayed)
[11:08] <groovesalad> hm - i don't think that it's possible that the kdmrc modifie your fonts
[11:08] <SubNet> I normaly dont use ist, but I wondered when I went through the menu ...
[11:10] <windshear> anyone knows if it is possible in edgy to install the proprietary nvidia driver using gui
[11:11] <groovesalad> @ windshear - download the bin file
[11:11] <SubNet_> windshear: I heard they are installable, but I don't know s.th about GUI-Installation
[11:11] <groovesalad> sudo ./Nvidia......
[11:11] <groovesalad> @ konsole
[11:11] <groovesalad> finish :)
[11:12] <windshear> hm, will try :)
[11:12] <SubNet_> That is even simpler than with GUI I guess ;)
[11:12] <windshear> thx
[11:12] <groovesalad> of course @ subnet ;)
[11:12] <SubNet_> Most things are simpler on a shell - and faster
[11:12] <SubNet_> U just have to know how it works and were to write what ...
[11:13] <groovesalad> right you are!
[11:13] <groovesalad> :-)
[11:13] <Skrot> Dude, the nvidia installer IS a gui, you just execute it from console :P
[11:13] <SubNet_> But the last mentioned thing can take u hours and days ;)
[11:13] <groovesalad> I don't know - i've a ati card :)
[11:13] <groovesalad> I don't know - i've a ati card :)
[11:14] <groovesalad> x850
[11:14] <SubNet_> ATI as well -> x300 and 9200SE
[11:14] <SubNet_> works fine in edgy without any hndy action
[11:14] <SubNet_> handy i mean
[11:15] <Momal> putting the old kdmrc file back fixed my fonts
[11:20] <_thumper_> Riddell: is the kde-latest symlink going to be moved to kde-355?
[11:25] <lipe_pe> Good morning, someone can tell me where can i find a good site that teaches me to compile the kernel !? please ...
[11:25] <lipe_pe> Good morning, someone can tell me where can i find a good site that teaches me how to compile the kernel !? please ...
[11:25] <Skrot> !kernel
[11:25] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:26] <lipe_pe> ubotu: thx u veeery much !!
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx u veeery much !! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <Skrot> lipe_pe: ubotu is a bot.
[11:26] <lipe_pe> Skrot: heehhehe, sorry, thx u very much ! :D
[11:26] <Skrot> no problem ;)
[11:32] <pandamonium> my kubuntu machine has gone all weird on me
[11:32] <lipe_pe> pandamonium: can i help u ?
[11:32] <pandamonium> last night it froze completely and i had to switch off
[11:33] <pandamonium> this morning when i came to it i moved the mouse and the cursor was shooting off in random directions, windows opening all over the place
[11:33] <pandamonium> i shut it down from a remote machine and then booted up again
[11:34] <pandamonium> i'm using it now but the icons on the task bar are gone
[11:34] <pandamonium> gone? no, they're gone out of order
[11:35] <lipe_pe> pandamonium: i don't know how to fix it .... sorry
[11:36] <pandamonium> lipe_pe, i was thinking about a large, heavy, metallic object and a trip to the pc hardware centre
[11:36] <justjoo> pandamonium: exact same kubuntu problems here after kde 3.5.5
[11:37] <livingdaylight> System Settings is not letting me 'Apply' anything i change.
[11:37] <pandamonium> justjoo, you're having the same?
[11:38] <justjoo> yes
[11:38] <lipe_pe> pandamonium: and nothing ... its very weird
[11:38] <Juki> anyone else having problems with upgrading kdenetwork due to no available kopete update?
[11:38] <pandamonium> justjoo, are you using a KVM?
[11:38] <justjoo> KVM?
[11:39] <pandamonium> yeah, keyboard, video, mouse switch
[11:39] <justjoo> nope
[11:39] <livingdaylight> yesterday i installed kubuntu for the first time and it was great. Today i had to reinstall it and its just not working ?!!
[11:41] <pandamonium> justjoo, when did this start for you?
[11:42] <justjoo> today, after i updated kde 3.5.5
[11:42] <livingdaylight> anyone know why system settings wont let me change screenresolution?
[11:42] <pandamonium> it happened to me last night after i updated too
[11:46] <justjoo> pandamonium: my kubuntu had frozed many times today  and i must reset whole machine
[11:47] <pandamonium> justjoo, does the cursor go crazy all over the screen?
[11:47] <lipe_pe> I just changed my googe search bar url to another, but now it isn't working ... someone can tell me, please the url that is in the google search bar ?!?! thx u
[11:47] <justjoo> cursor dont move, everything stucks
[11:48] <livingdaylight> yesterday, after installing kubuntu changing screenresolution was the first thing i did. Now its not working. Should i reinstall? What could have gone wrong?
[11:48] <livingdaylight> ok, i'll come back later. Seems there is no one here to help now
[11:49] <pandamonium> justjoo, are you able to log in from a remote machine on the network?
[11:51] <lipe_pe> I just changed my googe search bar url to another, but now it isn't working ... someone can tell me, please the url that is in the google search bar ?!?! thx u
[11:52] <pandamonium> from my syslog:
[11:52] <pandamonium> Oct 12 10:13:16 localhost kernel: [17203938.932000]  psmouse.c: <NULL> at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 1 bytes away.
[11:53] <pandamonium> there are many other such entries
[11:53] <justjoo> no i have only this machine
[11:54] <pandamonium> justjoo, take a look at your syslog. there might be something there to google
[11:54] <justjoo> ok.
[11:56] <boachan> i just installed kubuntu and its running like really slow
[11:56] <boachan> and its almost using up my 1gb of ram to just run the os
[11:56] <boachan> seems kinda odd
[11:57] <lipe_pe> I just changed my googe search bar url to another, but now it isn't working ... someone can tell me, please the url that is in the google search bar ?!?! thx u
[12:06] <abattoir> livingdaylight: sorry, had to go afk... did you try it? sudo dexconf 'restores' your original/stock xorg.conf
[12:07] <andersen-hc> Hiya ppl, does anyone know how to grab a running application using ssh x forwarding?
[12:08] <andersen-hc> I know how to execute an application, but not how to grab a currently running one
[12:08] <andersen-hc> ssh -X user@ip app
[12:16] <livingdaylight> anyone know why system settings wont let me change screenresolution?
[12:16] <livingdaylight> System Settings is not letting me 'Apply' anything i change.
[12:16] <abattoir> livingdaylight: are you in 'Administrator Mode' ?
[12:17] <livingdaylight> abattoir: yesterday i didn't need to be root to change screen resolution. BUt today even when i clicked adinistrator mode it didn't work
[12:18] <abattoir> livingdaylight: is the slider disabled?
[12:18] <abattoir> or does it allow you to change, but does not apply the changes?
[12:18] <abattoir> (as you seem to indicate)
[12:18] <abattoir> and also... Dapper?
[12:19] <livingdaylight> abattoir: slider works,i set it to size i want, apply, click on 'keep' but then nothing happens
[12:19] <livingdaylight> abattoir: yes, dapper, kubuntu
[12:19] <abattoir> livingdaylight: could you pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[12:20] <abattoir> !pastebin
[12:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:20] <livingdaylight> abattoir: ok
[12:20] <Shyne_> hello, im having some problems with Bluetooth. My mouse works fine when I boot up, but the keyboard doesnt. i have to use a wired keyboard to login. atm im using hidd --search to connect the bluetooth keyboard once ive logged in. I notice several errors from kbluetoothd icon when i try to use the bluetooth keyboard - authentication errors
[12:20] <abattoir> Shyne_: does it connect when you manually try to?
[12:20] <Shyne_> yeah
[12:21] <abattoir> Shyne_: and are you using dapper?
[12:21] <Shyne_> it says
[12:21] <Shyne_>  Connecting to device 00:07:61:24:63:7E
[12:21] <Shyne_> HID create error 13 (Permission denied)
[12:21] <Shyne_> im using edgy now, but the problem was always there on dapper
[12:21] <abattoir> Shyne_: hmm, bluetooth is a bit edgy in edgy....
[12:21] <Shyne_> but since i upgraded i feel like i want to fix it - the problem was exactly the same in dapper
[12:21] <abattoir> Shyne_: is your keyboard in 'pairing mode' ?
[12:21] <Shyne_> abattoir it just has a button underneath to connect
[12:22] <Shyne_> if i search and press that i get a connection
[12:22] <livingdaylight> abattoir: /etc/X11/xorg.conf output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26416/
[12:22] <Shyne_> on windows it would ask for a number ot be typed in matching something on screen
[12:22] <abattoir> Shyne_: hmm, then try 1234
[12:22] <Shyne_> well it doesnt ask for a number here
[12:23] <abattoir> Shyne_: did it ask for one in dapper?
[12:23] <Shyne_> on gnome it used to work at the login screen
[12:23] <Shyne_> no abattoir the problem is identical to that on dapper
[12:23] <Momal> how do i find the verison of xorg that im using ?
[12:23] <abattoir> livingdaylight: which res do you want?
[12:23] <andersen-hc> Hiya ppl, does anyone know how to grab a running application using ssh x forwarding?
[12:24] <andersen-hc> I know how to execute an application, but not how to grab a currently running one
[12:24] <andersen-hc> ssh -X user@ip app
[12:24] <livingdaylight> 1024x768 but its everything in system settings that has the 'Apply' problem i think
[12:24] <abattoir>  Momal
[12:24] <abattoir> Momal: apt-cache show xserver-xorg | grep Version
[12:24] <Momal> thanks
[12:25] <livingdaylight> abattoir: yesterday, ididn't have to edit my /etc/x11/xorg.conf to get the desired screen resolution
[12:25] <Shyne_> abattoir do you know a way i can make it hidd --search at the login screen so i can get the keyboard to work ?
[12:26] <abattoir> livingdaylight: anything you did between yesterday and today, which might have caused it?
[12:26] <abattoir> Shyne_: wait, i'll see
[12:26] <livingdaylight> abattoir: my system stopped working in the process of enablin nvidia 3d
[12:27] <abattoir> livingdaylight: so you were using the nvidia drivers yesterday?
[12:27] <livingdaylight> Today, i have done a fresh install coz it was too much hassle. So, i'm actually looking at a fresh install of Kubuntu
[12:27] <livingdaylight> abattoir: i was trying to
[12:27] <livingdaylight> abattoir: i installed nvidia-glx etc
[12:28] <livingdaylight> abattoir: did nvidia-glx enable
[12:28] <abattoir> livingdaylight: ok, so you were using the generic 'nv' driver yesterday... not something you downloaded from nvidia, right?
[12:28] <livingdaylight> abattoir: but when i did contr+alt+backspace i couldnt book back into kubuntu
[12:28] <livingdaylight> abattoir: thats right 'nv'
[12:29] <livingdaylight> abattoir: thats right i didn't download anything until i follwed the how to
[12:29] <livingdaylight> !nvidia
[12:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:29] <livingdaylight> abattoir: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia this is what i followed
[12:29] <cpk2> why cant i get 1280x1024 by pressing -/+
[12:29] <abattoir> livingdaylight: ok...
[12:30] <abattoir> cpk2: is it in your xorg.conf ?
[12:30] <Shyne_> abattoir ive added a rule telling kbluetoothd to accept incoming connections from my keyboard. maybe this will work :D
[12:30] <cpk2> abattoir: yes, but when i run a wine app that uses a lower res it keeps my desktop at that res as well
[12:30] <abattoir> Shyne_: tell me if it does ;)
[12:31] <livingdaylight> abattoir: i would think that anything that got messed up yesterday would be wiped out by doing a performing a fresh installation of kubuntu which i did this morning
[12:31] <cpk2> and ctrl alt +/- wont go above 1024x768
[12:31] <cpk2> just because x wont start doesnt mean to despair and reinstall =P
[12:31] <livingdaylight> cpk2: hi, dude
[12:32] <cpk2> abattoir: would the order of the resolutions in xorg make a difference?
[12:32] <cpk2> livingdaylight: hello
[12:32] <livingdaylight> cpk2: all our good work with java yesterday was undone by having to reinstall kubuntu fresh today coz my system borked installing nvidia
[12:32] <abattoir> cpk2: it might, afaik, it cycles through the resolutions mentioned there... so might, actually
[12:32] <cpk2> yesterday? I still havent slept since i've done that =P
[12:32] <livingdaylight> cpk2: and now i'm having similar problems with screenresolution that at least i didn't experience at all yesterday
[12:33] <livingdaylight> cpk2: lol, dude!
[12:33] <cpk2> abattoir: hrmm, ok I will put them in order from greatest to least then
[12:33] <livingdaylight> cpk2: i've had a good 7hrs shut-eye since
[12:33] <livingdaylight> cpk2: obviously different time-zones or you are just mad ;)
[12:34] <abattoir> livingdaylight: i haven't, going through LP to see if there is a bug :)
[12:34] <livingdaylight> abattoir: :) thx man. Sorry about that...i appreciate it
[12:35] <livingdaylight> abattoir: LP?
[12:35] <cpk2> livingdaylight: its getting close to my bedtime =)
[12:35] <abattoir> livingdaylight: can't think of any other reason why it shouldn't work....
[12:35] <abattoir> !launchpad
[12:35] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[12:35] <cpk2> however i still need to finish up an assignment due in the morning
[12:35] <cpk2> blah i dont want to restart x to see if order matters in xorg
[12:37] <abattoir> livingdaylight: do you want to manually change the entry in xorg.conf to see if its a bug in Guidance(system settings) ?
[12:37] <livingdaylight> abattoir: has anything happened since yesterday. I've got the same iso image on the same computer and yesterday i experienced no issue there and today i do? wondering whether its worth doing another fresh install :s
[12:38] <cpk2> well i will be back!