[03:06] <ephemient> poseidon: Gnome should have asked you if you wanted to burn a CD when you inserted the empty disc
[03:06] <masmota> ephemient:  what should xrandr --auto do?
[03:06] <ephemient> poseidon: if it didn't, right-click on the .iso and select burn
[03:06] <Scunizi> spoilt99, try this at the terminal then back to synaptic to see if the upgrade button is there. sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:06] <ephemient> masmota: it should try to enable all attached monitors
[03:06] <Pelo> spoilt99,  did you got and look at the upgrade instructions ubotu provided ?
[03:06] <hockeyfan5000> I have a Zune, but have not tried it on linux yet
[03:07] <ephemient> fsufitch: it sounds like your /usr/lib/libexpat.so.0 got corrupted somehow
[03:07] <ephemient> fsufitch: please try reinstalling libexpat1
[03:07] <fsufitch> ephemient: i'll do that...
[03:07] <poseidon> when I insert the empty disk it shows up on the desktop, then when I go to burn the .iso to the disk, it acts as if the disk isn't there, ephemient
[03:08] <Pelo> poseidon,  maybe the correct destination is not proveided in nautilus
[03:08] <ADemiG0d> when i type find /boot/grub/stage1 i get error 15
[03:08] <ephemient> linux88: like mssever suggested, you can look in /dev/disk/
[03:08] <Pelo> poseidon, try with gnomebaker
[03:08] <spoilt99> Scunizi Any other ones???
[03:08] <Rian-Davide> Is there a whats the link to ubuntu offtopic?
[03:08] <poseidon> pelo, how would I go about doing that?
[03:08] <ADemiG0d> curse these errors, why cant it be like "your shit is f'd up! reinstall grub" or something, not error 15
[03:08] <ephemient> poseidon: if you are comfortable with the command line, wodim also burns CD images
[03:08] <Pelo> ADemiG0d, that's not how it works,  there is no stage 1 file, persay
[03:08] <spoilt99> -
[03:09] <wastrel> per se
[03:09] <Pelo> poseidon,  sudo apt-get install gnomebaker, it will then be in the menu under sound /video , in the menu uinder tools, burn cd image
[03:09] <mwilliam13> I have installed gutsy gibbion on a dell latitude d620.  I had a complete install working fine with fiesty fawn, including the wireless nic (a broadcom 43xx as a dell 1490).  I did the fresh install because the update manager kept failing when I was loading the bianaries for 7.10.  I did the fresh install, then using wireless windows drivers (the inf files) and the ndiswrapper 1.49 the same way as I had before, but this time it is fu
[03:09] <mwilliam13> bared.  I followed along an install from "frodob's" post on installing a broadcom 43xx wireless nic, on an Ubuntu community forum <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_(ndiswrapper)?highlight=(WifiDocs%2FDevice)> but had issues after i edited config files as instructed.  now i have no access to even view the wnic.  Does anyone have suggestion, or is willing to communicate about it?
[03:09] <ubuntu> wow
[03:09] <ubuntu> ww
[03:09] <mwilliam13> sorry
[03:10] <fsufitch> ephemient: i'm dying here: I can't even get a lock for /var/lib/dpkg/lock with root permissions!
[03:10] <spoilt99> im dying here too
[03:10] <ephemient> fsufitch: ooh.  sounds like your system crashed
[03:10] <wastrel> fsufitch: you have another apt or aptitude or dselect or synaptic or adept or whatever running maybe
[03:10]  * Pelo recommends mwilliam13 looks up the definition or succint in the closest dictionnary
[03:10] <ephemient> fsufitch: if no other package managers are running, remove that lock file (sudo rm) and try again
[03:10] <fsufitch> wastrel: i don't have anything else running
[03:11]  * Pelo probably spelled succint wrong
[03:11] <fsufitch> ephemient: i'll try that
[03:11] <ephemient> fsufitch: actually, you probably want to run "apt-get install -f"
[03:11] <wastrel> succinct
[03:11] <r00tintheb0x> hi wastrel
[03:11] <ephemient> fsufitch: that will complete whatever installs apt was last running
[03:11] <ADemiG0d> all these articles are useless, i dont have windows
[03:11] <wastrel> aloha
[03:11] <r00tintheb0x> How's it going :)
[03:11] <DonCeferino> hello
[03:12] <mwilliam13>  briefly giving the gist of something; "a short and compendious book"; "a compact style is brief and pithy"; "succinct comparisons ...
[03:12] <r00tintheb0x> ADemiG0d why are they useless, what are you trying to get done?
[03:12] <ADemiG0d> i installed ubuntu on my external HD
[03:12] <fsufitch> ephemient: "cannot remove /var/lib/dpkg/lock: read-only file system"
[03:12] <ADemiG0d> now I cant boot to ubuntu on my internal without having the external hooked up
[03:12] <fsufitch> i think i really died
[03:12] <Pelo> ADemiG0d, get the supergrub cd , last link toward thebottom ofthe page, tehre is a link for it, you dl it you burn it ,and you boot from it,  it has menues in it with options for you to chose to restore the windows mbr and install stage 1 on the esternal hdd
[03:12] <ADemiG0d> grub gives me error 21 when i boot w/o the external
[03:12] <ephemient> mwilliam13: I'm not familiar with this machine.  is there areason you are trying to use ndiswrapper rather than bcm43xx?
[03:12] <ephemient> fsufitch: oops
[03:13] <ephemient> fsufitch: are you booted into single (recovery) mode?
[03:13] <spoilt99> do u guys know how to install 7.10 from package manager?
[03:13] <masmota> ephemient:  any other suggestions?  im using an ati card if that helps
[03:13] <Pelo> ADemiG0d, you are not listening , and apparently neitherwas I
[03:13] <mwilliam13> um..  the post suggested it on the ubuntu community.  that is the only reason.
[03:13] <spoilt99> cause mine wont allow me to
[03:13] <Pelo> !msg ubotu grub
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msg ubotu grub - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <fsufitch> ephemient: no, should i try that?
[03:13] <ADemiG0d> !msg ubotu grub
[03:13] <ephemient> fsufitch: yes, and run fsck
[03:13] <r00tintheb0x> ADemiG0d have you tried setting your primary master to LBA in BIOS?
[03:13] <spoilt99> Pelo, are you from paki ville?
[03:13] <ephemient> fsufitch: your system remounted the filesystem read-only after encountering errors
[03:13] <fsufitch> ephemient: ok, cya soon, i hope
[03:14] <Pelo> ADemiG0d, that was a mistake on my part,  give me a minute to get you a link
[03:14] <ADemiG0d> ok
[03:14] <ephemient> masmota: ATI cards... multihead is only working on the older ones
[03:14] <thinh> what better ddclient or the builtin ddns on the router?
[03:14] <masmota> ephemient: its a radeon8500... using the "ati" driver
[03:15] <ephemient> ephemient: odd, that is supposed to work, then
[03:15] <ephemient> masmota: this wouldn't happen to be an old PowerBook or iBook?
[03:15] <masmota> ephemient:  no this is a desktop machine i built
[03:16] <Pelo> ADemiG0d,  you have ubuntu installed on your internal hdd right ? and on an external hdd is that correct ?
[03:16] <ADemiG0d> correct
[03:16] <ephemient> masmota: that's odd, it really is supposed to work.
[03:16] <ADemiG0d> its on a laptop, i'm on my desktop right now
[03:16] <Pelo> ADemiG0d, ok here is a link to the supergrug cd,  dl it and burn it,   http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[03:16] <mwilliam13> ephemient: better way to ask, "what is the best way to configure a dell 1490 (a/b/g) card to work on ubuntu 7.10?
[03:17] <masmota> ephemient:  well thats good, at least i know to keep trying
[03:17] <ephemient> masmota: does "xrandr" output descriptions of the monitor and the TV?
[03:17] <masmota> ephemient:  all i tried was the --auto
[03:17] <masmota> and no output
[03:17] <Pelo> ADemiG0d,  when you boot from it , you go into the gnu/linux section,  tell it to restore the stage 1 on the internal and make it point to the /boot/grub/menu.lst on the internal hdd
[03:17] <ephemient> mwilliam13: did you ever try to get wireless up and running without ndiswrapper?
[03:18] <Pelo> ADemiG0d,  you'll have to figure out the menus on your own I haven't done this in a while and I can't walk you through it
[03:18] <K> anyone know where I can find a list of drivers for ATi cards? I'd like to know if a 1850 is supported.
[03:18] <ephemient> mwilliam13: I'm just not familiar with ndiswrapper, but bcm43xx works on my hardware
[03:18] <masmota> ephemient:  it just showed screen0 as vga
[03:18] <nsh> how do i find the most recently modified/created file with ls?
[03:18] <Pelo> spoilt99,  what is that paki vile comment about ?
[03:18] <mwilliam13> ephemient: the windows wireless drivers?
[03:18] <ADemiG0d> i'll check this out
[03:18] <ADemiG0d> thanks
[03:18] <Pelo> k https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:19] <toresn_> when trying 'telnet localhost 25' i get:
[03:19] <mwilliam13> ephemient: no I have not.  I am not certain of a different tool to use.  What do you suggest?
[03:19] <wastrel> nsh: ls -t
[03:19] <linux88> any good task managers out there?
[03:19] <ephemient> mwilliam13: ndiswrapper converts the windows drivers to Linux drivers; bcm43xx is a project that wrote a Linux-native driver for the same hardware
[03:19] <poseidon> when I look at the properties->volume->size of me empty 700mb cd-rom it says 2kb?
[03:19] <Pelo> linux88, for automating tasks ? like av and stuff ?
[03:19] <linux88> Pelo no more like the windows version of task manager
[03:19] <nsh> wastrel: so ls -t | head -1 will be the newest file?
[03:19] <ephemient> mwilliam13: can you unload and undo the ndiswrapper changes and try letting bcm43xx load?
[03:20] <MdL054> I have an issue: When booting the 7.04 or 7.10 cd and try to run it I get "ata1.01: Exception eMask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 Action 0x0 Frozen" and cannot procede. Any suggestions?
[03:20] <wastrel> nsh: looks right
[03:20] <mwilliam13> ephemient: ouch.  I am so trying to get off of the MS thing...  i am too noob.
[03:20] <Pelo> linux88,  command line only ,  open a terminal and type crontab -e ,  if you want to run something as root,  use  sudo crontab -e
[03:20] <ephemient> linux88: System > Administration > System Monitor
[03:20] <mwilliam13> ephiment: but I am trying.
[03:20] <poseidon> Why is it not able to right a .iso to my cd-rom?
[03:21] <linux88> THANKS
[03:21] <nsh> wastrel, thanks
[03:21] <Pelo> poseidon, are you trying with gnomebaker ?
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> poseidon: right click and write to disk didnt work?
[03:21] <Einstiein> hey is there a good programming room I could get help in?
[03:21] <randomoutburst> i have ubuntu installed and i was wondering if there is anyway i could download all the programs that come on backtrack2?
[03:21] <poseidon> pelo, i can't get gnomemaker, not internet connection on that comp
[03:21] <ephemient> mwilliam13: ooh.  I just thought of something...
[03:21] <ephemient> mwilliam13: http://tirdc.livejournal.com/15224.html
[03:22] <Pelo> poseidon, I think it is on the live cd ,  pop it in and add it as a repos, then run the command again
[03:22] <poseidon> jack_sparrow, once I do that and get to the initializing stage, it acts as though I don't have a cd in
[03:22] <thinh> which one works better router ddns or ddclient?
[03:22] <poseidon> pelo, my baby sister broke the live cd :(
[03:22] <Pelo> g'night folks ,I'm off to bed
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> poseidon: odd...
[03:22] <alienz> hello please help to install compiz fusion in ubuntu 7.04
[03:22] <AdemoS> night pelo
[03:22] <buttercups> k, 1850 what?
[03:23] <randomoutburst> ?
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo:  same here
[03:23] <mwilliam13> ephemient: I don't see the connection.  that is video stuff...  :)
[03:23] <alienz> what the effect if install compiz
[03:23] <MdL054> I have an issue: When booting the 7.04 or 7.10 cd and try to run it I get "ata1.01: Exception eMask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 Action 0x0 Frozen" and cannot Install.
[03:23] <Pelo> poseidon, www.getdeb.net  you can probabaly dl a gnomebaker.deb file from there and move it to your other comp with a flash drive ror something
[03:23] <ephemient> argh
[03:23] <r00tintheb0x> Chapman.
[03:23] <r00tintheb0x> lol
[03:23] <ephemient> I got confused as to who I was talking to
[03:23] <mwilliam13> ephemient: no prob
[03:23] <macksting> I assume if I've got 32-bit hardware, s'far as I can tell, and something says AMD64, I shouldn't try to use it?
[03:23] <mwilliam13> ephemient: I can come back when it is not so busy.
[03:23] <Pelo> ephemient,  I think you've been talking to the air for 2 hrs
[03:24] <ephemient> masmota, still around?
[03:24] <Pelo> anyhow
[03:24] <Pelo> g'night folks
[03:25] <randomoutburst> anyone know how i would do that?
[03:25] <mwilliam13> all:  where is the best place to find information on how to work with seemingly non-plug-and-play wireless nics?
[03:26] <LtEmerpoc> question...
[03:26] <LtEmerpoc> guys...
[03:26] <LtEmerpoc> im back.. but..
[03:26] <LtEmerpoc> question..
[03:26] <K> buttercups: ati x1850 it's a gt but a manufacturer overclocked version
[03:27] <MdL054> whats the deal
[03:27] <MdL054> people ignore me
[03:27] <LtEmerpoc> can i load ubuntu onto a laptop..
[03:27] <MdL054> not cool :(
[03:27] <LtEmerpoc> ?
[03:27] <mwilliam13> yes
[03:27] <MdL054> yes
[03:27] <MdL054> you can
[03:27] <ephemient> LtEmerpoc: yes
[03:27] <mwilliam13> i am doing that now
[03:27] <LtEmerpoc> like a sony vaio already loaded with vista
[03:27] <LtEmerpoc> ?
[03:27] <AdemoS> Man, trying to talk in #OpenOffice is getting me no response, they're dead over there
[03:27] <mwilliam13> all that suspense?
[03:27] <AdemoS> *#OpenOffice.org
[03:27] <MdL054> No one wants to help me
[03:27] <MdL054> :(
[03:27] <LtEmerpoc> well i want to but i REALLY dont want to deal with all the silly stuff ive been dealing with on my tower...
[03:27] <J_5> does anyone know zimbra is included in apt-get?
[03:28] <MdL054> I've been waiting patiently for hours as people all around me get their questions answered
[03:28] <MdL054> im about to say screw it and go gentoo
[03:28] <ephemient> LtEmerpoc: Ubuntu installed without modifications on my laptop, but YMMV
[03:28] <joshritger> I am using fiesty and beryl and I was wondering if there was a way to have a different desktop background on each of the 4 sides of the rotating cube that beryl creates?
[03:28] <mwilliam13> how is your memory situation, MdL054?
[03:28] <MdL054> I have 3gb
[03:28] <LtEmerpoc> what do you mean ephemient?
[03:28] <MdL054> of pc3200
[03:28] <mwilliam13> is it all good?  run mem tests?
[03:29] <randomoutburst> can someone explain how i would download all the programs that come with backtrack 2 to ubuntu?
[03:29] <MdL054> yup its A-OK
[03:29] <MdL054> that was one of the first things I did
[03:29] <ephemient> MdL054: it sounds like a kernel problem, and apparently nobody here is familiar with it
[03:29] <buttercups> k, look under support and drivers at amd.com, x1850 serious should be supported
[03:29] <mwilliam13> try pulling out like 2 gb, and test with different sticks...
[03:29] <ephemient> MdL054: what are your storage devices/drivers?
[03:29] <LtEmerpoc> ephemient.. ill show you the laptop i just got...
[03:30] <LtEmerpoc> tell me if i will have some problems with loading ubuntu on it..
[03:30] <MdL054> i have all IDE drives, 1 80gb and 2 160gb drives
[03:30] <atlfalcons866> will i notice a speed boost with a dual core cpu
[03:30] <ephemient> MdL054: the storage controller, the chipset
[03:30] <threefcata> fresh install 7.10 trackpoint doesn't scroll, i tried editing xorg.conf as said online but no luck, anyone knows why?
[03:30] <MdL054> •mwilliam13• I tried that as well, I stuck just the 1 stick in there with the same issue
[03:30] <ADemiG0d> pelo, do i boot to this supergrub disk when i have it burnt?
[03:30] <mwilliam13> hm.
[03:30] <foso> hey guys, got a couple questions about settings
[03:30] <MdL054> im running an abit is-7 board
[03:30] <MdL054> let me look up the controller
[03:30] <mwilliam13> atapi error?
[03:30] <randomoutburst> ok guess not.....
[03:31] <foso> first off, how do i get beryl?
[03:31] <ephemient> !synaptics
[03:31] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[03:31] <maybeway36> !beryl
[03:31] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[03:31] <LtEmerpoc> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8587772&st=sony+vaio&lp=4&type=product&cp=1&id=1190677437770
[03:31] <mwilliam13> oh ata error
[03:31] <maybeway36> !compiz
[03:31] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[03:31] <fsufitch> ephemient: i'm baaaack: fsck did a lot! i can now actually EDIT THE FILES on my hd! *gasp* anyway, aptitude is still unusable, complaining that dpkg was interrupted. it suggests "dpkg --configure -a" but that doesn't work due to some parse error
[03:31] <LtEmerpoc> thats the laptop.. someone tell me about loading ubuntu on it.. if there will be problems?
[03:31] <mwilliam13> can you get any other disk to boot on the device?
[03:31] <MdL054> the chipset is Intel 865PE
[03:31] <ephemient> fsufitch: argh... really painful recovery :(
[03:32] <fsufitch> ephemient: i would really like to know what i did to screw it up this badly...
[03:32] <foso> ok, i guess i have compiz fusion since im running gutsy, how do i get the desktop cube?
[03:32] <ephemient> fsufitch: it might be the hard disk dying
[03:32] <LtEmerpoc> mwillian13: are you talking to me?
[03:32] <ephemient> fsufitch: or other hardware issues
[03:32] <a|isha> hi guys
[03:32] <mssever> !ccsm | foso
[03:32] <ubotu> foso: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[03:32] <ubuntuN00B> i'm having a problem fetching mail... here's (part of) my log:
[03:32] <ubuntuN00B> http://pastebin.com/d5491a0e
[03:32] <fsufitch> ephemient: so none of it is my fault? cuz now my parents are glaringi at me for not doing my homework and fixing linux instead
[03:33] <a|isha> i have to write a paper for school comparing ubuntu and mac in terms of security
[03:33] <a|isha> my friend told me to ask here for help
[03:33] <MdL054> •mwilliam13• ubuntu 5.10 does install btw if that helps
[03:33] <ubuntuN00B> (i'm using fetchmail, mutt, procmail, msmtp)
[03:33] <foso> mssever, sorry, what does that mean?
[03:33] <ephemient> fsufitch: I don't know for sure
[03:33] <mssever> a|isha: That's pretty broad
[03:33] <mwilliam13> no it doesn't help..  it confuses.
[03:33] <MdL054> hehe
[03:33] <fsufitch> ephemient: lol; so what's next in recovering this?
[03:34] <MdL054> no one on the forums has been able to help thus far either
[03:34] <mssever> foso: Ubotu told you what to install so you can enable the desktop cube
[03:34] <wastrel> ubuntuN00B: fetchmail is trying to deliver mail to a running SMTP server on localhost
[03:34] <mwilliam13> did you verify the iso after download? the checksum?
[03:34] <fsufitch> ephemient: fyi, fsck asked me if it can fix a lot of stuff such as overlapping things that i didn't really understand, but i hit "yes" for everything... it didn't seem like a good idea to leave anything _broken_
[03:34] <mssever> foso: What I said before was siply a command to ubotu
[03:34] <a|isha> mssever yea im only looking for general input
[03:34] <mssever> *simply
[03:34] <a|isha> comparing ubuntu and mac
[03:34] <a|isha> which one would be better and such
[03:34] <MdL054> •mwilliam13• yes and it passed. I also tried multiple mirrors
[03:35] <wastrel> ubuntuN00B: you have to configure fetchmail to use procmail as the MDA instead
[03:35] <foso> mssever, ok, just making sure i didnt do something wrong
[03:35] <mssever> a|isha: Well, as I don't own a Mac, I can't say much
[03:35] <mwilliam13> how about using a different optical media reader?
[03:35] <buttercups> a|isha, well both mac and ubuntu use sudo
[03:35] <a|isha> im also inside the mac channel so im hoping to get feedback from both sides
[03:35] <mwilliam13> can you boot your 7.10 on a different computer?  just into live?
[03:35] <ubuntuN00B> wastrel: hm, ok... how should i do this?
[03:35] <a|isha> what is sudo
[03:35] <wastrel> ubuntuN00B: dunno i don't use fetchmail anymore :]
[03:35] <MdL054> •mwilliam13• unfortionatly I only have the 1 available to me so I'm unable to test.
[03:35] <ephemient> fsufitch: well, I'd run badblocks or similar tools from a LiveCD, because usually a power outage doesn't cause filesystem corruption that badly
[03:35] <maybeway36> !sudo
[03:35] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:36] <poseidon> anybody know where I can download gnomebaker.deb via the internet
[03:36] <foso> ok, my next question, how do i change the bg color of the splash screen?
[03:36] <frost0> anyone here familiar with ubuntu and nvidia?
[03:36] <MdL054> •mwilliam13• let me test the cd on another machine, I'll be back in a min.
[03:36] <ubuntuN00B> wastrel: ok, i will try to search the web
[03:36] <mssever> poseidon: from synaptic?
[03:36] <fsufitch> ephemient: i don't have a livecd... i'm going to have one on monday, but that's a bit late...
[03:36] <ephemient> poseidon: run "apt-cache show gnomebaker" and it will list a path on Ubuntu's archive servers
[03:36] <mssever> foso: Which splash screen?
[03:36] <frost0> Pelo, when i play a game i will play lag free and then boom kicked out to desktop....my player is just timed out on the server....what is going on with my nividia?
[03:36] <fsufitch> ephemient: why can't i run it from my laptop directly?
[03:37] <foso> mssever, right after login, i changed the little box that shows nautilus etc loading, but its still that nasty pink color
[03:37] <ephemient> fsufitch: badblocks does a surface scan of the disk by writing to the blocks on a disk
[03:37] <ephemient> fsufitch: can't do that to the filesystem you're currently booted off of
[03:37] <fsufitch> ephemient: i see; i have a windows install on this machine, do u think i can use that to run badblocks?
[03:38] <frost0> anyone here use and nividia with a little gaming?
[03:38] <frost0> nvidia*
[03:38] <mssever> foso: Look into the login window app (if you start from a terminal, gksudo gdm-setup)
[03:38] <ephemient> no, but the Disk Management mmc snap-in has a similar capability
[03:38] <hdevalence> why is it that you need to defrag ntfs but not ext2 ext3 ext4 reiserfs etc
[03:38] <foso> mssever i have tried that to no avail
[03:38] <randomoutburst> soooo.....anyone know how i could download a set of programs that come on another distro?
[03:38] <foso> im not real tech literate, so i dont use the teminal much
[03:38] <mwilliam13> was that ms windows there, ephemient???
[03:38] <frost0> mssever, when i play a game i will play lag free and then boom kicked out to desktop....my player is just timed out on the server....what is going on with my nvidia?
[03:38] <fsufitch> ephemient: the what? also, wouldn't it bother windows that linux is ext3?
[03:38] <mssever> foso: You must be running Gutsy, then
[03:38] <foso> yes sir
[03:39] <danforth> can anyone explain why my cd burning apps shut down?
[03:39] <ephemient> fsufitch: this is just a surface scan, Windows doesn't need to know anything about the actual filesystem, just what area on the hard disk it covers
[03:39] <mssever> foso: I had that splash screen problem in Gutsy
[03:39] <foso> mssever: i couldnt figure it out in feisty either
[03:39] <mssever> foso: One minute while I look up my solution
[03:39] <foso> thanks
[03:39] <mwilliam13> So, I am getting out a shot gun to the ubuntu install on this laptop.  will reinstall, because I know that i have effed up my wireless and network config files
[03:39] <poseidon> ephemient, it did not show couldnt' find any servers for it
[03:39] <ephemient> fsufitch: I think Windows has something like "\windows\system32\diskmgmt.mmc"?  I dunno since I don't use Windows on anything
[03:40] <ephemient> poseidon: archive.ubuntu.org/ubuntu
[03:40] <ephemient> poseidon:
[03:40] <fsufitch> ephemient: oh, it' sjust the windows disk management app?
[03:40] <ephemient> poseidon: oh wait, I might have misinterpreted you
[03:40] <ephemient> fsufitch: yeah
[03:40] <fsufitch> ephemient: ok, i'll boot to windows and contact you further from there
[03:40] <ephemient> fsufitch: mmc -> microsoft management console, or something like that?  I worked for a company that wrote some custom snap-ins for that
[03:40] <allenc> how do I start the samba nmbd daemon to resolve netbios names to ip addresses?
[03:41] <LtEmerpoc> hey guys
[03:41] <LtEmerpoc> back again
[03:41] <LtEmerpoc> anyone answer my question
[03:41] <fsufitch> ephemient: yeah, i think it's accessible from control panel > administrative tools
[03:41] <LtEmerpoc> ive got the sony and yeah
[03:41] <fsufitch> i'll see once i get on
[03:41] <LtEmerpoc> actually
[03:41] <ephemient> poseidon: do you have universe repositories?
[03:41] <mwilliam13> type mmc at run prompt.  there you can choose what snapins you need for the management of windows...
[03:41] <LtEmerpoc> different question
[03:41] <fsufitch> ephemient: ttys then
[03:41] <poseidon> ephemient, I'm trying to download it from on to my computer with windows, then transfer it to my ubuntu comp
[03:41] <LtEmerpoc> it says my ati drivers are enabled by not in use
[03:41] <LtEmerpoc> whats that mean"??
[03:42] <danforth> In gutsy all my cd burning apps shut down before starting to burn a cd any ideas????
[03:42] <mwilliam13> fsufitch
[03:42] <poseidon> my ubuntu comp doesn't have internet connection
[03:42] <mwilliam13> fsufitch
[03:42] <mwilliam13> type mmc at run prompt.  there you can choose what snapins you need for the management of windows...
[03:42] <ephemient> poseidon: you should fix that :)
[03:42] <ephemient> poseidon: but in this case, it's a little easier
[03:42] <ephemient> poseidon: just go to packages.ubuntu.com, search for gnomebaker, and download the correct dist.
[03:42] <a|isha> what makes ubuntu so secure guys
[03:42] <poseidon> ok thanks
[03:43] <buttercups> a|isha, you might get better feed back over at #ubuntu-offtopic, busy in here =)
[03:43] <a|isha> can anyone answer that, thats all i really need for my paper
[03:43] <a|isha> oh ok
[03:43] <a|isha> thanks
[03:43] <foso> how do i get more then 2 desktops? i dont see the box in gutsy
[03:43] <LtEmerpoc> someone tell me the sudo install get thingy command
[03:43] <LtEmerpoc> please
[03:43] <LtEmerpoc> help alot
[03:43] <somerville32> sudo apt-get install
[03:44] <infinitycircuit> foso, if you use compizconfig-settings-manager you can go to general settings and increase the number of desktops
[03:44] <somerville32> !cookie | LtEmerpoc
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cookie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <MdL054> •mwilliam13• The CD didn't work on the other computer. I got the same issues. I also burned the ISO from another computer and tried it on both mine and on the other computer and had the same issue... this is getting weird now...
[03:44] <poseidon> ephemient: how do I know which dist I have?
[03:44] <ephemient> LtEmerpoc: System > Administration > Restricted Drivers Manager -- this isn't related to apt anymore
[03:44] <mwilliam13> sounds like a bad burn
[03:45] <mwilliam13> the iso is probably good, but your burner is sad.
[03:45] <ephemient> poseidon: you don't know if you're on Dapper or Edgy or Feisty or Gusty?
[03:45] <MdL054> I tried the burn from another computer too though
[03:45] <frost0> ephemient, once you are done with poseidon...could you please help me with my nvidia graphics card?
[03:45] <somerville32> !md5 | MdL054
[03:45] <john_> a1e2df7ee696c61bb0242ce27044228b
[03:45] <ubotu> MdL054: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[03:45] <mwilliam13> did you verify after the burn?
[03:45] <LtEmerpoc> ok well how do i install them now
[03:45] <EdwardXP> do you guys know a good website to compare astrology signs ???
[03:45] <poseidon> no
[03:45] <francesco> #ubuntu-it
[03:45] <EdwardXP> love hate money n that sort of thing?
[03:45] <MdL054> I didn't varify the burn
[03:45] <somerville32> !ot | EdwardXP
[03:45] <ubotu> EdwardXP: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:45] <EdwardXP> bah okay,
[03:45] <MdL054> When i try to use the one built in on the CD i get the same msg
[03:45] <W1ZrD> !gcc
[03:45] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:45] <ephemient> frost0: I have no experience with binary drivers for graphics cards, so I'm kinda floundering around with LtEmerpoc :-/
[03:46] <mwilliam13> put it on a flash disk, then take it to your friend's house to burn.
[03:46] <frost0> ephemient, okay i understand...thx
[03:46] <mwilliam13> see if it changes the issue
[03:46] <jinxed> Does anyone here know any Verilog?
[03:46] <mssever> foso: See if this does the job: put the contents of http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45748/ into /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom; change the color code as you wish; then restart gdm: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:46] <K> buttercups: thanks.
[03:46] <MdL054> ok I have a computer downstairs I'm going to try it from. Thanks
[03:46] <mwilliam13> laters
[03:47] <poseidon> ephemient: I got my live cd from here http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[03:47] <kasansweat> Will idleness cause a wireless (router to pc) connection to drop, and if so, are there any tools/daemons etc that will help prevent this?
[03:47] <ephemient> poseidon: when?
[03:47] <ephemient> poseidon: Gusty was released last month
[03:47] <kitche> kasansweat: just send a ping out every so often and it should stay connected
[03:47] <foso> mssever, do i include the greeter thing?
[03:47] <poseidon> a couple of months ago
[03:48] <kasansweat> kitche cool, thanks
[03:48] <mssever> foso: yes, unless that section is already present; then put the rest in the greeter section
[03:48] <kasansweat> fsufitch : are you in tallahassee?
[03:48] <thinh> anyone knows which one is better router ddns or ddclient?
[03:48] <ephemient> poseidon: probably Feisty, then
[03:48] <fsufitch> kasansweat: no
[03:48] <frost0> anyone else having trouble with their nvidia card on gutsy?
[03:48] <poseidon> ok, thanks
[03:48] <infinitycircuit> frost0, no mine works fine
[03:48] <frost0> with compiz and metacity?
[03:48] <ephemient> poseidon: unless you went for LTS and got Dapper... :-/
[03:48] <phoenix_> umm
[03:49] <neilthereildeil> hey all
[03:49] <bluewolfknight0> I'm having trouble with my belkin wireless card on gutsy
[03:49] <frost0> infinitycircuit, well when i play games mine runs great then randomly times out....
[03:49] <fsufitch> ephemient: i'm on windows now, what was that program you said i should use?
[03:49] <kasansweat> fsufitch : aha, either way, if you're associated with the school feel free to join #fsulinux, we're trying to get a group going here
[03:49] <neilthereildeil> i need help finding a new witreless driver for my wireless card
[03:49] <kitche> frost0: no but with compiz running games are barely able to be played have to turn it off first
[03:49] <fsufitch> kasansweat: what's #fsulinux?
[03:49] <neilthereildeil> how can i look for a newer driver?
[03:49] <frost0> kitche, i switch to metacity....then run my game...and it randomly kicks me back to the desktop
[03:50] <frost0> kitche, any settings i should look at?
[03:50] <majyk> why doesn't Ubuntu ship the latest Firefox? I just installed Ubuntu and I have <IP_ADDRESS> but <IP_ADDRESS> is out.... why is there a lag?
[03:50] <fsufitch> kasansweat: my school has an extensive linux computer lab, there's bound to be interested people if there's something with a name that contains "linux"
[03:50] <ephemient> neilthereildeil: please specify what wireless card you have
[03:50] <mssever> fsufitch: FSU = Florida State University
[03:50] <frost0> kitche, meanwhile my player times out...
[03:50] <infinitycircuit> majyk, is there a reason you need the newest version
[03:50] <kasansweat> fsufitch : are you at florida state?
[03:50] <foso> mssever the whole thing is already there
[03:50] <neilthereildeil> i have the linksys wpc54g
[03:50] <kitche> frost0: sounds like the game just crashes not really a video driver issue
[03:50] <fsufitch> kasansweat: no, i'm at tjhsst, in northern va
[03:50] <EdwardXP> anyone know a good server manager "that contains modules like" apache mysql, php and phpmyadmin... -- where fantasico is installed so i can even install more apps that are plugnplay on the server
[03:50] <fsufitch> kasansweat: high school, not college yet ;)
[03:51] <ephemient> majyk: Ubuntu already patches Firefox with security fixes etc. between Firefox's official releases
[03:51] <mssever> foso: so much for that idea... I know I fixed it somewhere :)
[03:51] <EdwardXP> that integrate well into the ubuntu platform
[03:51] <kasansweat> fsufitch : aha, from your name I thought you were associated with florida state university
[03:51] <somerville32> EdwardXP, webmin?
[03:51] <EdwardXP> is there a .deb file for that one?
[03:51] <frost0> kitche, are you sure....it happens in other games also..
[03:51] <Pici> !webmin | EdwardXP
[03:51] <ubotu> EdwardXP: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system
[03:51] <majyk> ephemient, maybe so but the version numbering is confusing
[03:51] <emily_> I keep getting a phantom box on my screen. It looks like the same size as the "please enter your superuser password"...anyone?
[03:51] <foso> which leads me to another issue, somehow i dont have permission to edit things on my ubuntu partition
[03:51] <majyk> why don't they just ship the latest official Firefox
[03:51] <EdwardXP> :(
[03:51] <fsufitch> kasansweat: i'd better come up with a better chat name then... i dont want people to get wrong impressions
[03:51] <majyk> instead of doing whatever it is they do
[03:51] <foso> its read only and wont let me change it
[03:51] <frost0> kitche, i'm pretty sure that i have some settings wrong.....i just don't know whats right :)
[03:52] <EdwardXP> somerville32, Pici  ... is this kinda like C_panel ?
[03:52] <fsufitch> ephemient: so what windows utility am i supposed to use?
[03:52] <ephemient> majyk: because Ubuntu does not ship the same Firefox binary that Mozilla produces
[03:52] <EdwardXP> thats' what im lookin for
[03:52] <somerville32> EdwardXP, yup
[03:52] <zewb> how do you change the cursors in fluxbox?
[03:52] <ephemient> fsufitch: disk management... or something
[03:52] <majyk> infinitycircuit: is there a reason I shouldn't?
[03:52] <EdwardXP> :) cool thanks im going to try it out
[03:52] <ephemient> it's been years since I've used Windows
[03:52] <wastrel> majyk: gutsy was released in october, it will have no software newer than that
[03:52] <Bugson> is there any reason that my usb hangs off??
[03:52] <Snowniak> somebody there wants to make a hacking sprint?
[03:52] <wastrel> majyk: (barring backports)
[03:52] <mssever> !sudo | foso
[03:52] <ubotu> foso: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:52] <emily_> Also is there a way to change where my windows are created? It's always creating them at the top left of the screen, where the top of the window is under the toolbar. How do you change the default new window locatin?
[03:52] <wastrel> ah i said gutsy :p
[03:52]  * wastrel loses
[03:52] <majyk> wastrel, that has always been my problem
[03:53] <infinitycircuit> majyk, well if you don't need a feature in the latest incremental release of firefox there's no real reason why you would need the upgrade
[03:53] <bluewolfknight0> hey, I'm trying to install my belkin wireless card, can anyone help?
[03:53] <W1ZrD> !packages
[03:53] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[03:53] <majyk> for instance Glade 3 is broke, will there be a fix for it?
[03:53] <ephemient> majyk: well, Firefox has been known to break extensions on upgrades
[03:53] <fsufitch> ephemient: i'm at the disk management thing, but there's nothing about scanning disks; the only thing it allows me to do is to delete the partition, and somehow i know that' swrong
[03:53] <frost0> infinitycircuit, could you walk me through what nvidia-settings i should have?
[03:53] <zewb> how do you change the cursor in fluxbox? i apt-got the artwiz cursors and it automatically uses this ugly one and i want to change it
[03:53] <kalpik> majyk, if you always need the latest and greatest, use swiftfox
[03:53] <Reng> what is a good program to convert mkv files to avi?
[03:53] <EdwardXP> Pichu0102,  its not in the addremove programs should ii check out the snyaptic package manager, or so i have to refer to the main site?
[03:53] <ephemient> fsufitch: heh
[03:53] <EdwardXP> Pici,
[03:53] <Bugson> everything works but my usb is hanging after a while of using my pc ???
[03:53] <ephemient> fsufitch: that's annoying...
[03:53] <Pici> EdwardXP: ?
[03:53] <Bugson> any idea??
[03:53] <frost0> infinitycircuit, please...:P
[03:53] <LtEmerpoc> someone help alittle bit
[03:53] <hwdyki> what's the difference between the adm and admin group?
[03:53] <ephemient> fsufitch: sorry, I'm lost :-(
[03:53] <wastrel> feel free to install the latest whatever it is you want.  i do.
[03:53] <fsufitch> ephemient: you can say that again...
[03:54] <LtEmerpoc> how do i fix my screen resolution
[03:54] <infinitycircuit> frost0, i find that the restricted drivers manager sets it all up just fine for me.  if you want increased performance with your card you can try tweaking the xorg settings.
[03:54] <fsufitch> ephemient: wow, that was awesome timing... anyway, i'll try to find it...
[03:54] <phoenix_> ummm, I don't know how you guys do it
[03:54] <emily_> augh come on...anyone?
[03:54] <EdwardXP> apt-get update?
[03:54] <phoenix_> theres so many freakin' topics I can't read em
[03:54] <ivx> hey i just set up a nfs server and i can mount it on a client but when i go to drag files over from my desktop they just dissapear from the desktop, and don't show up where i dragged them to. if i log off the client and back on the appear on my desktop again, does anyone know what is wrong
[03:54] <infinitycircuit> frost0, check out www.sidux.com and go to the wiki -> system administration -> the perfect desktop and you will find a whole list of xorg tweaks
[03:54] <zewb> how do you change the cursor in fluxbox? i apt-got the artwiz cursors and it automatically uses this ugly one and i want to change it
[03:54] <phoenix_> jeebus
[03:54] <fsufitch> ephemient: but can i have a good description of what's ACTUALLY wrong? i'm still sorta confused about that
[03:54] <phoenix_> zewb, it's not hard
[03:54] <Hatty> is the ca. APT server down?
[03:54] <zewb> i know
[03:54] <zewb> i just don't know where to do it
[03:54] <phoenix_> ummm
[03:55] <phoenix_> are you in 7.10?
[03:55] <zewb> yes
[03:55] <Hatty> ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[03:55] <W1ZrD> I need zlib >= 1.2.0 (for archivezip module), which package could that possible be?
[03:55] <frost0> infinitycircuit, thank you very much
[03:55] <majyk> kalpik, I don't always need the latest but I don't understand this 6 month release cycle, software become really stale... this isn't windows where software evolves in the course of YEARS
[03:55] <Pici> W1ZrD: libzlib-dev
[03:55] <ephemient> fsufitch: your filesystem got corrupted. fsck fixed it so that it's in a stable state, but the files on disk may contain bad data
[03:55] <phoenix_> should be...
[03:55] <EdwardXP> Pici, im performing an apt-get update >> and im going to look for webmin in the system
[03:55] <foso> mssever, sorry, im not real experienced at this and dont get how to apply that info to what im trying to do
[03:55] <fsufitch> ephemient: and i have to find a way to recover my good data?
[03:55] <Pici> EdwardXP: Did you read the messave from ubotu?
[03:55] <mssever> ivx: What happens when you move/copy them from the command line?
[03:55] <Pici> !webmin | EdwardXP
[03:55] <ubotu> EdwardXP: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system
[03:55] <majyk> I'm holding out for the Ubuntu that evolves like Gentoo
[03:55] <phoenix_> cursor selection?
[03:55] <kalpik> majyk, then probably u should run a rolling release distro like debiad sid/arch/gentoo
[03:55] <ephemient> fsufitch: sounds like your system was interrupted in the middle of an upgrade... and not really
[03:55] <wastrel> majyk: debian's last release took 2 years
[03:55] <phoenix_> ya
[03:55] <W1ZrD> Pici: for feisty it says: zlib1g-dev, is that the one then?
[03:56] <phoenix_> ummm
[03:56] <ivx> msserver, i don't know how up
[03:56] <ephemient> fsufitch: there's no way to tell good data from bad, since ext2/3 doesn't checksum data
[03:56] <zewb> cursor selection in fluxbox
[03:56] <Pici> W1ZrD: sure, sounds good
[03:56] <pussfeller> how do you make a module autoload
[03:56] <majyk> kalpik, I already do
[03:56] <ivx> msserver, *hold up
[03:56] <EdwardXP> :(
[03:56] <EdwardXP> nooo
[03:56] <Hatty> is the ca.archive.ubuntu.com APT server down?
[03:56] <wastrel> pussfeller: put it in /etc/modules
[03:56] <ephemient> pussfeller: add to /etc/mo
[03:56] <mssever> foso: Basically, system files are owned by the root user and can only be written by that user; this is for security purposes
[03:56] <Pici> EdwardXP: Thats what I was trying to say earlier.
[03:56] <ephemient> argh
[03:56] <zewb> im not sure where apt-get even put the artwiz cursors
[03:56] <fsufitch> ephemient: i see, so i just have to hope for the best... fyi, i was upgrading earlier, but i didn't interrupt it
[03:56] <kriel> what is the hardware clock set to when using ubuntu? is it set to local time or GMT?
[03:56] <ephemient> pussfeller: add to /etc/modules <-- like wastrel sasid
[03:56] <kalpik> majyk, then you just need to understand that Ubuntu is not like that :(
[03:56] <majyk> I want a binary distro like Ubuntu that evolves not stagnates for 6 months
[03:56] <pussfeller> wastrel: the name of the module?
[03:56] <fsufitch> ephemient: maybe it just crashed...
[03:56] <wastrel> yes
[03:56] <ephemient> fsufitch: did you system crash or power off?
[03:56] <EdwardXP> Pici,  is there an alternative thats' just as good, can you reconmend me another distro?
[03:56] <Pici> kriel: it asks when you install if you have it set to UTC or local.
[03:56] <kalpik> majyk, tried archlinux?
[03:56] <fsufitch> ephemient: no, not at that time
[03:56] <foso> mssever should/can i try it
[03:56] <Pici> EdwardXP: I don't know, sorry.
[03:57] <infinitycircuit> majyk, tried the real debian?
[03:57] <wastrel> majyk: debian testing or sid
[03:57] <pussfeller> cool, thanks wastrel
[03:57] <kriel> Pici: I don't remember it asking... any way i can check that post-install?
[03:57] <foso> mssever, ie change the permissions ?
[03:57] <fsufitch> ephemient: do you think it woul dbe a good idea to just get all of my ~, pack it up, take it away, then reinstall linux?
[03:57] <mssever> foso: The sudo and gksudo commands allow authorized users (such as the account created when you installed) to temporarily gain root privileges
[03:57] <jakelfenix> hola
[03:57] <ephemient> fsufitch: yes, that would be my recommended plan of action
[03:57] <jakelfenix> hello
[03:57] <LtEmerpo1> im guessing everyone is pissed at me asking about my screen resolution.. lol
[03:57] <Hatty> is the ca.archive.ubuntu.com APT server down?
[03:57] <Pici> kriel: I think its `sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata`
[03:57] <fsufitch> ephemient: i've had a LOT of other problems because of upgrades and such in the past
[03:57] <mssever> foso: Changing the permissions can break your system if you do it wrong
[03:57] <majyk> anyway just don't realize why Ubuntu doesn't ship the latest version of Firefox
[03:57] <kalpik> majyk, arch is probably THE most cutting edge distro
[03:57] <darkentity> is there a way to get a thumbnail view of pictures before u send them because evolution and pidgin i.m. have no options to do that
[03:57] <jakelfenix> alguien sabe como hacer un chroot de fedora en ubuntu?
[03:57] <ephemient> fsufitch: you could save a copy of /var/lib/dpkg/status as a list of what packages you have installed
[03:57] <wastrel> majyk: perhaps it's in the process of being backported.
[03:57] <LtEmerpo1> how do i install the ati drivers..
[03:57] <fsufitch> edgy -> feisty -> gutsy wasn't very friendly on my computer
[03:57] <foso> mssever, ok i think i getcha
[03:57] <Pici> !es | jakelfenix
[03:57] <ubotu> jakelfenix: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[03:57] <mssever> !es | jakelfenix
[03:57] <kriel> Pici: guess i'll find out soon enough. Thanks.
[03:58] <neilthereildeil> how can i find the newest driver for my wireless card?
[03:58] <ivx> msserver, i quick just right clicked and created file and dragged it over, and back and forth a few times and it worked fine, the other files i was trying where ubuntu iso's. why would it behave like that
[03:58] <fsufitch> ephemient: actually i shouldn't, as i prolly have about 2 GB of worthless packages installed ;)
[03:58] <zach382> Hello.  Can anyone link me to a guide that tells me how to install the nvidia binary drivers from the nvidia website in ubuntu gutsy? Ive been googling but cant come up with anything.
[03:58] <majyk> I mean is it really too much to ask to have the latest Firefox? Sure I could download a binary
[03:58] <darkentity> go the manufucatures website neil
[03:58] <buttercups> !ati | LtEmerpo1
[03:58] <ubotu> LtEmerpo1: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:58] <neilthereildeil> do they have linux drivers there?
[03:58] <Pici> majyk: I'm sure theres a reason why.
[03:58] <kalpik> majyk, add the swiftfox repo..
[03:58] <phoenix_> whoa
[03:58] <phoenix_> seriously
[03:58] <majyk> the Ubuntu devs stick to this 6 month cycle like nazi's
[03:58] <phoenix_> WAY too many topics
[03:58] <phoenix_> haha
[03:58] <LtEmerpo1> okay.. how about my sound blaster card..
[03:59] <phoenix_> *trots back to efnet*
[03:59] <darkentity> how do u do that trick when u wanna answer someone back in this chatroom and the color turns red for them
[03:59] <kitche> hmm odd how my user can't start another X session
[03:59] <Pici> !language | majyk
[03:59] <ubotu> majyk: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:59] <kriel> majyk: do you want it to work, or do you want it to be up-to-date? usually the more up to date you are, the more likely things are to break.
[03:59] <wastrel> it is too much to ask to have the latest firefox.  especially because it's so easy to install it yourself
[03:59] <infinitycircuit> majyk, dapper was released two months late for a reason
[03:59] <Reng> what is a good program to convert mkv files to avi?
[03:59] <ADemiG0D> so i install ubuntu on an external HD, now i cant get Non-linux computers to boot to ubuntu from the external Drive
[03:59] <kalpik> darkentity, prefix their name :)
[03:59] <majyk> ubotu, I am thanks
[03:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i am thanks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:59] <darkentity> lol thanks kalpik
[03:59] <Pici> majyk: If you dont have any support questions and just want to complain, you are free to leave at any time.
[03:59] <darkentity> kalpik: does this work?
[03:59] <fsufitch> ephemient: so, now i know what to do... it's going to be painful formatting that partition though... so many memories XD
[03:59] <mssever> ivx: Dunno. I don't know if it's an issue with Nautilus (the file manager) or something at a lower level. You can use cp source/file destination to copy files from the command line and mv source dest to move or rename them
[03:59] <kalpik> darkentity, yes, it does!
[04:00] <darkentity> kalpik: awesommme
[04:00] <infinitycircuit> majyk, it makes no sense to ask for the newest firefox when the devs already patch firefox
[04:00] <atlfalcons866> is it possible to dual boot windoze vista and ubuntu
[04:00] <Pici> majyk: We don't need that kind of attitude here.
[04:00] <majyk> Pici, I'm not complaining
[04:00] <darkentity> kalpik: ur the man i love u!
[04:00] <mssever> ivx: Without trying it from the command line, I don't know how to diagnose your problem
[04:00] <atlfalcons866> or is microsoft have properity stuff
[04:00] <Pici> !dualboot | atlfalcons866
[04:00] <ephemient> fsufitch: my G4 Powerbook used to run Gentoo.  it overheated and the hard disk crashed.  how's that for memories?  :)
[04:00] <ubotu> atlfalcons866: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[04:00] <majyk> Pici, I don't have an attitude
[04:00] <kalpik> atlfalcons866, yes you can
[04:01] <fsufitch> ephemient: oooooh; that's a success story of gentoo -> ubuntu ;). actually i've been considering getting gentoo for my computer, but i just like apt so much i don't think i'll do it
[04:01] <majyk> if <IP_ADDRESS> is patched with all the crap in <IP_ADDRESS> then why doesn't Ubuntu roll out <IP_ADDRESS> rather than <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[04:01] <ephemient> fsufitch: I still run Gentoo on my (more powerful and better-ventilated) desktop
[04:01] <wastrel> majyk: it was released less than a month ago.  it's probably in the backports queue.
[04:01] <fsufitch> ephemient: so i'll be doing the backing up and reinstallation of everything some other time, like tomorrow
[04:01] <kalpik> majyk, maybe cause the problems fixed in <IP_ADDRESS> do not apply to Ubuntu?
[04:02] <Pici> majyk: I'd tell you, but our issue/package tracking system (Launchpad) is currently down for planned maintenance.
[04:02] <orion2> Does anyone know how to change the default port on ssh to something else?
[04:02] <fsufitch> ephemient: right now both of my parents are telling me to get some sleep; i guess i'll listen to them
[04:02] <ephemient> orion2: edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and change Listen
[04:02] <whisperkiller> can someone tell me how to cd to Desktop?
[04:02] <kriel> im actually in the process of dualbooting gentoo and ubuntu... strange. which is why im trying to figure out if my clock is local or gmt'd...
[04:02] <bruenig> whisperkiller, cd Desktop
[04:02] <kriel> whisperkiller: cd ~\Desktop
[04:02] <fsufitch> ephemient: and i'll consider gentoo for my desktop pc, which btw has issues with wireless (as all linux comps do)
[04:02] <foso> mssever, (or anyone) any other ideas on how to change the bg color of the splash screen from pink?
[04:02] <bruenig> kriel, / not \
[04:02] <kalpik> whisperkiller, open terminal and do "cd ~/Desktop"
[04:02] <fsufitch> i may be in here some other time asking for hekp with that
[04:02] <ephemient> kriel: Windows *always* makes the hardware clock local time, never GMT
[04:03] <whisperkiller> i got it
[04:03] <neiljmorrow> hi all
[04:03] <kriel> ephemient: ... gentoo isn't windows, last i checked.
[04:03] <whisperkiller> bruenig: thanks
[04:03] <ephemient> kriel: oooh, I can't read
[04:03] <ephemient> kriel: well, then it's whatever you set it up to be, then
[04:03] <fsufitch> good night, all
[04:03] <Hatty> Does anyone know why the Canada apt repo is down/how to switch to another repo
[04:03] <kriel> ephemient: cept i cant remember. x.x; i dont even remember it asking.
[04:03] <kalpik> Hatty, system -> admin -> software sources
[04:03] <bruenig> Hatty, edit /etc/apt/sources.list, change ca to uk or us or de or whatever country you want
[04:03] <majyk> Pici, I see most people see my words as a complaint which tells me that I am not the only one to mention this
[04:04] <majyk> seems the version numbering is confusing
[04:04] <ephemient> kriel: /etc/conf.d/clock in Gentoo
[04:04] <kriel> and im trying to chroot into it from the gentoo install disk... erf. i think this is getting to convoluted for my skill level.
[04:04] <wastrel> the firefox version numbering?
[04:04] <majyk> why does Ubuntu patch their FIrefox differently than the official release
[04:04] <mssever> foso: I think that my solution didn't work for you. By the way, have you set the proper background color in the desktop config? Even if you have a wallpaper, the color might show through sometimes. Just a stab in the dark
[04:04] <Hatty> kalpik: bruenig: Cheers
[04:04] <majyk> seems like wasted effort really
[04:04] <ephemient> kriel: or /etc/rc.conf if it's really old Gentoo
[04:04] <kriel> ephemient: ubuntu is already set up, and im trying to configure gentoo to match.
[04:04] <bruenig> majyk, because the original firefox has problems, all distros do it
[04:04] <Pici> majyk: I dont know right now.  I can't access the information.  But I'm sure that theres a logical reason why.
[04:05] <ephemient> kriel: oh.  hmm... I dunno where that setting is on Ubuntu
[04:05] <mssever> majyk: Because open source often does things like that
[04:05] <ephemient> majyk: Ubuntu's Firefox has much better Gnome integration
[04:05] <bruenig> ephemient, not true
[04:05] <kriel> ephemient: buried in the deep, dark corners of /etc i'm guessing.
[04:05] <orion2> ephemient: what would be a good port number to change it to?
[04:05] <majyk> fair enough
[04:05] <ephemient> majyk: as well as being able to globally install extensions from Ubuntu's repositories
[04:05] <ephemient> orion2: why do you need to change the port number?
[04:06] <bruenig> from what I have seen on other distros, most of the patches deal with pango
[04:06] <orion2> ephemient: my computer keeps getting hitt by bots
[04:06] <bruenig> and text rendering in general
[04:06] <majyk> just seems like a confusion on version numbers then
[04:06] <Pici> majyk: If you want to look yourself in a bit, you can look at the firefox package's bug reports on bugs.ubuntu.com, but its scheduled to be down for right now.
[04:06] <foso> mssever, thanks for your help anyway, i do have it set as black under background color
[04:06] <mssever> orion2: some high port number isn't likely to conflict with anything
[04:06] <danforth> why do my cd burning apps shut down while converting mp3's to audio cd format????
[04:06] <majyk> what does a normal person see? They see Firefox being at <IP_ADDRESS> and Ubuntu being at <IP_ADDRESS> and they say why does Ubuntu lag behind?
[04:06] <ephemient> orion2: you can run fail2ban or something
[04:06] <bruenig> majyk, ubuntu always lags behind
[04:07] <ephemient> majyk: ... what "normal person" looks at version numbers like that?
[04:07] <orion2> msserver: something like 64644?
[04:07] <scguy318> majyk: because Ubuntu repos strive for version freezes
[04:07] <orion2> ephemient: is fail2ban easy to set up?
[04:07] <mssever> orion2: sure. Probably will work
[04:07] <Pici> scguy318: <IP_ADDRESS> was a security update.
[04:07] <majyk> ephemient, this normal person does
[04:07] <orion2> msserver: you think i should set up Fail2ban or just change to port?
[04:07] <majyk> it's not that hard
[04:07] <scguy318> Pici: ah
[04:07] <majyk> haha
[04:07] <ephemient> orion2: either way is okay
[04:08] <francesco> hello guys... i've a problem with my gutsy... its a wireless problem
[04:08] <ephemient> orion2: personally, I just leave the port unchanged but disable password logins
[04:08] <mssever> orion2: I've never heard of Fail2ban so I don't know
[04:08] <scguy318> francesco: shoot
[04:08] <bruenig> majyk, software rarely is updated except every 6 months
[04:08] <ephemient> orion2: that way only me, with my ssh key, can log in
[04:08] <Pici> bruenig: This was a security update.
[04:08] <francesco> ok thx
[04:08] <mssever> orion2: I likewise disable password logins; I don't care how many bots hit me; they can't get in
[04:08] <majyk> bruenig, yes I know and that is my biggest problem with Ubuntu.. I'm trying to get over it but it's difficult
[04:08] <francesco> i use wireless to connect to my home wlan
[04:08] <ephemient> orion2: fail2ban trawls the ssh logs and adds iptables rules to ban repeat offenders
[04:08] <Pici> majyk: Security updates almost always get through, I'm sure theres a logical reason why this didn't.
[04:08] <majyk> Linux doesn't live in a 6 month vacuum
[04:08] <ephemient> orion2: there's other software that does the same thing
[04:09] <ADemiG0D> i cant seem to find the article to properly install ubuntu on an external HD can anyone help
[04:09] <ephemient> majyk: but distros do
[04:09] <bruenig> majyk, don't get over it, change distros
[04:09] <scguy318> majyk: if you want the bleeding latest, use a different distro
[04:09] <francesco> but when i connect all the programs slow down alot
[04:09]  * Pici facepalms
[04:09] <foso> does compizfusion have the cool thing like in mac os that shows all windows?
[04:09] <kriel> Oh. Duh. x.x; I set my UTC to my local time.... argh. /me facepalms
[04:09] <foso> i dont know what its called
[04:09] <bruenig> majyk, that is why many distros exist. No reason to stick with one that you fundamentally dislike
[04:09] <francesco> but the interesting thing is:
[04:09] <orion2> msserver: i just changed the default port number and it let me ssh into my computer still using port 22. I also did this sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[04:09] <ephemient> foso: yes, I think it's bound to alt-shift-up by default?
[04:09] <ADemiG0D> i cant seem to find the article to properly install ubuntu on an external HD can anyone help
[04:09] <kitche> foso: it has a expose plugin might have to install it though
[04:09] <orion2> msserver: do you know why?
[04:09] <francesco> if i connect to other wlans the problem dont happen
[04:09] <infinitycircuit> ADemiG0D, it shouldn't really be any different.  what is your trouble
[04:09] <majyk> I've used plenty of distro's for the last 10 years and none suit my needs
[04:10] <foso> ephemient thanks, thats it :)
[04:10] <majyk> software doesn't live in a 6 month vacumme
[04:10] <ADemiG0D> I did the install, but i cant boot to the external
[04:10] <ADemiG0D> i wanna know how to properly format the external
[04:10] <bruenig> majyk, what are you looking for
[04:10] <scguy318> francesco: what chipset?
[04:10] <majyk> something like Gentoo but binary package based
[04:10] <orion2> msserver: this is the line of code that i changed is this correct?
[04:10] <orion2> #   Port 64646
[04:10] <majyk> Ubuntu that revolves
[04:10] <darkmatter> arch
[04:10] <bruenig> majyk, arch
[04:10] <wastrel> debian testing/sid
[04:10] <Pici> majyk: At this point the subeject is offtopic, please move to #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[04:10] <mssever> orion2: Apparently you didn't change it the way ssh-server wanted. I've never tried to change the ports myself, so all I can recoment is reading the man page for the config file
[04:10] <bruenig> that is basically the definition of arch
[04:10] <francesco> hmm.. intel pro wireless... the pc's an asus a6jm
[04:10] <ephemient> majyk: Gentoo is only up to date when developers update the packages in its repository
[04:10] <bruenig> revolving binary distro
[04:10] <ephemient> majyk: same as in every distro
[04:10] <majyk> Pici, I am not going to continue this
[04:10] <scguy318> francesco: and what do you mean slow down?
[04:11] <Pici> majyk: okay :)
[04:11] <francesco> well, it takes about 10 seconds to open the shell or gedit
[04:11] <Pici> ADemiG0D: Does your computer support booting from USB? Which I assume the drive is?
[04:11] <ephemient> majyk: just that the Gentoo developers don't have to do as much work to bump the package versions :)
[04:11] <mssever> orion2: You have to uncomment it for it to work
[04:11] <orion2> ah
[04:11] <ADemiG0D> it should, its a new dell
[04:11] <francesco> while some programs like calculator or system monitor run normally
[04:11] <scguy318> francesco: if you run top, any particular process hoarding CPU time or the like?
[04:11] <EdwardXP> does anyone know i can get ubuntu on a 1GB flash-disk
[04:11] <francesco> no :(
[04:11] <majyk> Pici, the point is I like Ubuntu, I just don't agree with the 6 month release cycle, I think it's really outdated
[04:12] <darkmatter> majyk: arch is a rolling release derived from slackware. rolling release means that the packages are always "bleeding edge"
[04:12] <EdwardXP> thats' bootable of course
[04:12] <majyk> arch is derived from Crux
[04:12] <orion2> msserver: i uncommented it and restarted ssh and it is still letting me connect :( ?
[04:12] <mssever> majyk: Maybe you'd prefer debian unstable?
[04:12] <francesco> moreover, if i diconnect all returns "normal"
[04:12] <bruenig> darkmatter, crux but yeah
[04:12] <kriel> EdwardXP: you're missing a word. 'if i can get'... 'how i can get'... 'why i can get...'
[04:12] <darkmatter> majyk. and crux is slack. whats your point? :)
[04:13] <mssever> orion2: Can you connect on the new port?
[04:13] <bruenig> majyk, everything you describe is arch so I don't know what you are waiting for exactly.
[04:13] <francesco> -but i must tell, now im not connected with my wlan -im with another
[04:13] <scguy318> francesco: hmm, I guess if you think the native Intel wireless module is the issue, you could try utilizing ndiswrapper
[04:13] <majyk> darkmatter, crux is not derived from slacware
[04:13] <scguy318> francesco: or could be a transient issue
[04:13] <majyk> slackware
[04:13] <EdwardXP> kriel,  how can i get ubuntu on a flash drive thats' bootable
[04:13] <majyk> I've used it for a long time
[04:13] <scguy318> !install | EdwardXP
[04:13] <ubotu> EdwardXP: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[04:13] <orion2> msserver: i can still connect on port 22 idk i havent tryed connecting on the new port. Should i try?
[04:13] <EdwardXP> argghhh
[04:13] <Pici> !ot
[04:13] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:13] <majyk> bruenig, I'm not waiting for anything
[04:14] <mssever> orion2: yes
[04:14] <orion2> msserver: no it doesnt let me connect on the new port
[04:14] <francesco> scguy318: hmm.. i don know... if the issue is the diriver i think the problem shoul happen with all wlans
[04:14] <bruenig> majyk, don't complain about ubuntu when the distro you claim to want is out there
[04:14] <mssever> orion2: So the port difinitely didn't get changed
[04:14] <EdwardXP> thanks :) kriel
[04:14] <Pici> bruenig: offtopic
[04:14] <majyk> bruenig, I'm not complaining
[04:14] <orion2> yea
[04:14] <hahafaha> hi everybody! I have an external hard disk with ~100GB of data formatted with NTFS. I was writing stuff to it when the write operation was interrupted, and now any attempt to write to it (including rm) results in an I/O error
[04:14] <hahafaha> what should I do?
[04:14] <bruenig> Pici, k
[04:15] <majyk> I could just download a tarball of a precompiled firefox
[04:15] <francesco> scguy318: anyway.. how can I install ndiswraper?
[04:15] <mssever> orion2: one minute while I look through my config
[04:15] <ephemient> hahafaha: run a filesystem check on it
[04:15] <scguy318> francesco: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[04:15] <kriel> scguy318: thank you, as well. you were faster on the link...
[04:15] <scguy318> kriel: np
[04:16] <orion2> msserver: http://pastebin.ca/796554
[04:16] <kriel> if i install ntp, the command to run it should be just 'ntp' or maybe 'ntpd', right?
[04:16] <scguy318> hahafaha: chkdsk your NTFS partition
[04:16] <francesco> scguy318: ok thx, il try this... bye for now .D
[04:16] <francesco> :D
[04:16] <scguy318> francesco: g/l
[04:16] <hahafaha> ephemient: I ran find /path/to/volume -print0 | xargs -0 ls -ld > /dev/null
[04:16] <hahafaha> returned nothing
[04:17] <hahafaha> ephemient: and fdisk f: under Windows returned something along the lines of ``encountered error, fixing''
[04:17] <wastrel> kriel: try  sudo /etc/init.d/ntp start
[04:17] <scguy318> hahafaha: why fdisk?
[04:18] <RebelX> how do i turn on my compiz-fusion feature?
[04:18] <hahafaha> scguy318: I mean chkdsk, not fdisk
[04:18] <RebelX> if it helps im running ver 7.10
[04:18] <scguy318> hahafaha: my apologies
[04:18] <ephemient> hahafaha: after Windows fixed it, did it work again under Linux?
[04:18] <majyk> so if a package like Glade 3 has bugs will that be patched in this release?
[04:18] <hahafaha> ephemient: no, it did not. I did not get the feeling like it fixed it, really
[04:18] <majyk> it's not a security bug, but it's a show stopper
[04:19] <mssever> orion2: Have you read man sshd_config? You might want to try the ListenAddress directive instead of the Port directive
[04:19] <kriel> wastrel: thanks. (ntp's not installed, btw)
[04:19] <ephemient> hahafaha: the ntfsprogs package contains a tool called "ntfsfix"
[04:19] <scguy318> hahafaha: you did specify the /f option for chkdsk? just checking :P
[04:19] <atlfalcons866> what else is wrong with vista
[04:20] <orion2> msserver: do you know where the config file for that is?
[04:20] <majyk> I understand security bugs will be patched in Ubuntu, I just want to know if regular bugs will be patched
[04:20] <RebelX> yes majyk im pretty sure they will
[04:20] <Bruno_> sound juicer doesnt recognize -up
[04:20] <orion2> msserver: what we changed is what someone else said to do on a website i looked at
[04:20] <Silouck> can anyone tell me the url to see the kubuntu patches?
[04:20] <majyk> RebelX, that's good news
[04:20] <jakelfenix> hello
[04:21] <jakelfenix> some know how do a bootstrapping of fedora 8?
[04:21] <ephemient> orion2: you are editing /etc/ssh/sshd_config, right?
[04:21] <RebelX> lol im still looking for a reply on how to turn on my compiz-fusion feature
[04:21] <jakelfenix> with a chroot?
[04:21] <Silouck> where can i see the kubuntu sources=?
[04:21] <mssever> orion2: Oh, I see your problem!
[04:21] <orion2> ephnemient: yes
[04:21] <caustic> try goin into your alt f2 and type compiz --replace
[04:21] <mssever> orion2: You've been editing ssh's config, not sshd's config
[04:21] <ephemient> RebelX: if you are running 7.10, compiz is automatically enabled if your graphics card is known to run it
[04:21] <caustic> anywho, I have my problem still. just upgraded to 7.10 and no sound.
[04:21] <RebelX> how do i make it run then?
[04:22] <ephemient> orion2: ssh*d*_config, not ssh_config
[04:22] <orion2> msserver: ahh damn tab completions tricked me lol
[04:22] <orion2> i see
[04:22] <orion2> thanks sorry dumb me
[04:22] <caustic> can anyone help?
[04:22] <Bruno_> sound juicer doesnt recognize the artist or song name. Is there any other program i can use that will recognize the names?
[04:22] <peterbilt> RebelX: in System > Preferences > Appearance , choose 'visual effects tab options.
[04:22] <hahafaha> ephemient: what is the proper way to use ntfsfix?
[04:22] <RebelX> thx peterbilt
[04:22] <caustic> anyone?
[04:22] <ephemient> hahafaha: run it on the device, then run chkdisk from Windows
[04:22] <peterbilt> RebelX welcome
[04:22] <AdemoS> have a good night all
[04:23] <hahafaha> ephemient: thanks, will try
[04:23] <ephemient> caustic: did the sound documentation not help?  what's still wrong?
[04:23] <caustic> I tried it, still nothing.
[04:23] <caustic> changed to alsa, everyhting/
[04:23] <Silouck> where can i see the kubuntu sources=?
[04:24] <httpdss> people Hi, im having problems trying to make snippetsEmu to work ... i created the after/ftplugin directory, opened the snippetEmu.vba and executed :so % .... then opened a python file, tried to make it work with tab, but it didnt, can anyone give me a hand to make this work ?
[04:24] <ephemient> Silouck: http://launchpad.com/ is currently down for maintainance
[04:24] <RebelX> now umm how the hell do i make the desktop switcher like the ones in the youtube linux vids?
[04:24] <pr0gr4mm3r> caustic, do you hear the "ready" sound when the login screen appears?
[04:24] <Bruno_> sound juicer doesnt recognize the artist or song name. Is there any other program i can use that will recognize the names?
[04:24] <caustic> Nope.
[04:24] <scguy318> !ccsm | RebelX
[04:24] <ubotu> RebelX: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[04:24] <ephemient> Silouck: but if you are running (K)Ubuntu you can "apt-get source" to fetch the source of any package
[04:24] <caustic> programmer: nope; nothing.
[04:24] <RebelX> what scguy318?
[04:25] <scguy318> RebelX: you'll need to install that to configure Compiz
[04:25] <RebelX> o so sudo apt-get install !ccsm
[04:25] <ephemient> caustic: cat /proc/asound/cards -- does it exist, any lines or empty?
[04:25] <scguy318> RebelX: no
[04:25] <Bruno_> sound juicer doesnt recognize the artist or song name. Is there any other program i can use that will recognize the names?
[04:25] <RebelX> ??
[04:25] <scguy318> RebelX: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:25] <ephemient> RebelX: no, apt-get install ccsm (no !)
[04:25] <pr0gr4mm3r> I lost sound when I upgraded to 7.04.  It was a problem with a config file in my home folder.  Creating a new, fresh account and logging into that would tell you if it was a global or user-level issue
[04:25] <Silouck> ephemient: i would like to for example see the kdebase patches, where can i see it?
[04:25] <scguy318> ephemient: ccsm is not a package in the repos
[04:25] <ephemient> yeah, oops
[04:25] <smmagic> Anyone know how I can check the name of this partition?
[04:26] <ephemient> my bad
[04:26] <julio3patas> does klik work with ubuntu?
[04:26] <scguy318> ephemient: np
[04:26] <julio3patas> !klik
[04:26] <ubotu> klik is a simple way to run additional software without actually installing it. For instructions and more information see http://dot.kde.org/1126867980/
[04:26] <majyk> what demographic is Ubuntu targeting with a 6 month out of date release cycle?
[04:26] <ephemient> Silouck: apt-get source kdebase will download the orig and the debian patches
[04:26] <majyk> just curious
[04:26] <Silouck> ephemient: im not in kubuntu ATM
[04:26] <ephemient> Silouck: usually you can find the patches easier on launchpad but it's down temporarily
[04:26] <RebelX> OK its downloaded... NOW WHAT?
[04:27] <Bruno_> sound juicer doesnt recognize the artist or song name. Is there any other program i can use that will recognize the names?
[04:27] <markybob> majyk out of date?  what company does more than a 6 month release?  microsoft 5-6yrs.  apple 9-15 months.
[04:27] <ephemient> RebelX: now you have an extra option in System > Preferences > Appearance
[04:27] <Silouck> RebelX: whats downloaded?
[04:27] <caustic> ephemerent: it's empty
[04:27] <scguy318> Silouck: ccsm
[04:27] <RebelX> o ok
[04:27] <atlfalcons866> am i safe from microsoft because linux is violating there patents
[04:27] <Silouck> ephemient: yes?
[04:27] <scguy318> atlfalcons866: that's not true, just Microsoft FUD
[04:27] <majyk> markybob, good point
[04:27] <majyk> but linux is different
[04:27] <scguy318> atlfalcons866: and Microsoft has yet to say WHAT patents ;)
[04:27] <atlfalcons866> FUD?
[04:27] <scguy318> atlfalcons866: Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt
[04:28] <markybob> majyk which is why you have 6 months.  no other linux distribution does shorter, either.
[04:28] <Silouck> ephemient: so?
[04:28] <atlfalcons866> ok thanks =)
[04:28] <RebelX> ok i clicked desktop cube... umm how do i make sure its working
[04:28] <majyk> markybob, no other? I beg to differ
[04:28] <Bruno_> sound juicer doesnt recognize the artist or song name. Is there any other program i can use that will recognize the names?}
[04:28] <atlfalcons866> !compiz
[04:28] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[04:28] <markybob> majyk name a major linux distribution that does less than 6 month release cycle
[04:28] <majyk> gentoo
[04:28] <caustic> ephemerent: no lines in it.
[04:28] <RebelX> ok thx
[04:29] <kitche> majyk: gentoo is a rolling release which is different
[04:29] <majyk> exactly
[04:29] <ephemient> Bruno_: if your cd is not found in (free)cddb, none of the programs will get names from it
[04:29] <kitche> majyk: which is offtopic anyways
[04:29] <ephemient> caustic: do you know what your sound card is and which driver should be driving it?
[04:29] <Bruno_> ephemient: what is cddb?
[04:30] <majyk> true
[04:30] <caustic> ephemiment: don't know the driver, but SB450 HDA
[04:30] <ephemient> Bruno_: a database of CD information
[04:30] <kitche> Why does ubuntu have a package for dwm since it's not meant to be packaged really
[04:30] <joseph_> hllo
[04:30] <joseph_> hello
[04:30] <Bruno_> ephemient: how do i know if its there or not?
[04:30] <KI4IKL> For some reason, my power management wont show my battery power that I have left, does anyone have any ideas?
[04:30] <TetsuoShimaPMFE> Hello
[04:30] <ephemient> kitche: you can "apt-get source" it, modify it, "dpkg-buildpackage" it, and install it
[04:30] <joseph_> some know how do a bootstrapping of a fedora system? in ubuntu
[04:31] <ephemient> kitche: packaging still is convenient
[04:31] <kitche> ephemient: umm I'd rather download it from suckless.org myself since the one in ubuntu is broke with my config anyways
[04:31] <ephemient> kitche: did you miss my "modify it" step?
[04:31] <caustic> ephiemient: where could I find out what driver should be running it
[04:31] <KI4IKL> !power
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about power - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <ephemient> kitche: having it integrated with the package management system is just convenient
[04:31] <ephemient> caustic: google?
[04:31] <KI4IKL> !powermanagement
[04:31] <kitche> ephemient: umm no the newer configs don't work with older dwm's
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powermanagement - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <trwww> I have all "Put Computer to Sleep" settings set to "Never" at "System -> Preferences -> Power Management", yet the monitor goes blank and some ssh connections disconnect after not touching the keyboard for ~10 mins.
[04:32] <trwww> Will someone tell me where I can configure whats doing this? Thanks!
[04:32] <caustic> ephemient: All i get is forums with code
[04:32] <Bruno_> ephemient: how do i know if its there or not?
[04:32] <ephemient> Bruno_: since Sound Juicer doesn't find it, it apparently isn't there
[04:32] <kitche> ephemient: so modifing won't work
[04:32] <TetsuoShimaPMFE> I'm somewhat of a noob, and I'm having a bit of a problem sharing files between Ubuntu and Windows.  I've got Samba set up and I can see the directory I'm sharing from my linux box, but it prompts for a username/password and the one I've got configured for that directory isn't working.  Am I doing something horribly wrong?
[04:32] <MdL054> did mwilliam go to bed?
[04:32] <Bruno_> ephemient: ok thanks
[04:32] <ephemient> kitche: ... there's nothing stopping you from updating the version as part of "modifying"...
[04:33] <kitche> ephemient: sure there is I don't do debian packages :)
[04:33] <Silouck> ephemient: so you dont know where i can see the kdebase kubuntu sources like patches?
[04:33] <ephemient> Silouck: like I said, https://launchpad.net/
[04:33] <VulcanRidr> Anybody using git?
[04:34] <Silouck> ephemient: only there?
[04:34] <kitche> VulcanRidr: used to
[04:34] <Anthology> Hi, can someone refer me to a good data recovery program to recover an old ntfs partition?
[04:34] <KI4IKL> When I run the command acpi -s it says that I have no battery in my batter slot, and I know for a fact I do. Anyone have any ideas why my acpi power management isn't working? It's worked before!
[04:34] <VulcanRidr> kitche: What do you use now?
[04:34] <Pici> Silouck: try packages.ubuntu.com too
[04:34] <Silouck> Pici: thanks
[04:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Silouck: You would have better luck in #Kubuntu
[04:34] <kitche> VulcanRidr: nothing I used to use it when I worked on SourceMage
[04:35] <Silouck> Pici: thats what i was talking all a long
[04:35] <ephemient> Silouck: that's exactly what apt-get will give you... still, yeah, I forgot about that
[04:36] <Silouck> ephemient: but i said im not using kubuntu aTM
[04:36] <VulcanRidr> kitche: Okay, quick and easy question. I am putting all my docs under source control...Using git. I want to only check out certain directories to my laptop. Can I do that if my docs directory on my workstation is one large repo?
[04:36] <ephemient> Silouck: doesn't matter, as long as you're on a system with apt/dpkg
[04:36] <dissection> ;]
[04:36] <Silouck> ephemient: im not
[04:36] <ephemient> Silouck: fix that, then ;)
[04:37] <kitche> VulcanRidr: let me check real quick git has changed sicne the last tiem I used it
[04:37] <ephemient> caustic: sorry for going off on a tangent for a while... HDA sound devices seem to be kinda difficult in general
[04:37] <VulcanRidr> k
[04:37] <caustic> ephiment dammit, any suggestion at all?
[04:37] <Silouck> ephemient: thats why i asked for an url
[04:39] <kitche> VulcanRidr: man git-checkout is probably what you want
[04:39] <ephemient> caustic: so what was the vendor:subsystem of your card again?
[04:39] <simplechat> hey, quick question, does rsync need to be root in order to do a full copy
[04:39] <simplechat> ?
[04:39] <kitche> VulcanRidr: sicne I know git-clone does the whole repo which is not what you said
[04:39] <kitche> simplechat: full copy of what?
[04:39] <KI4IKL> When I run the command acpi -s it says that I have no battery in my batter slot, and I know for a fact I do. Anyone have any ideas why my acpi power management isn't working? It's worked before!
[04:39] <caustic> ephemient: ATI  SB 450 HDA audio
[04:39] <ephemient> simplechat: to preserve uid/gid, yes; in general, no
[04:39] <VulcanRidr> kitche: I looked at that earlier, but couldn't get it to find the repo on the workstation.
[04:39] <q_a_z_steve> VulcanRidr, can you help me with pidgin?
[04:39] <simplechat> kitche, /home
[04:40] <trwww> ... I see a setting under "Screensaver Preferences" that says "regard the computer as idle after "10 minutes". I can change this to anything between 1 min and 2 hrs, but no way to turn it off?
[04:40] <q_a_z_steve> VulcanRidr, is there some googletalk irc channel?
[04:40] <VulcanRidr> q_a_z_steve: I can try...
[04:40] <simplechat> ephemient, ok.
[04:40] <threefcata> can anybody help me?
[04:40] <linux88> THREEFCATE WITH
[04:40] <VulcanRidr> q_a_z_steve: Apparently not.
[04:41] <kitche> simplechat: umm on ubuntu I don't think so since users can see other users /home
[04:41] <bluefox83> threefcata, not till you tell us what your problem is...
[04:41] <bazhang> threefcata: what's your question?
[04:41] <linux88> threefcata with?
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> trwww: what about the power mgmnt tab
[04:41] <ephemient> caustic: I remember seeing a page about certain HDA devices that needed modified/updated ALSA drivers, but I can't find that right now...
[04:41] <threefcata> thx, i just upgraded to gutsy, but my trackpoint doesn't scroll but i did exactly the same configuration as i did in 7.04
[04:41] <VulcanRidr> q_a_z_steve: What are you trying to do with pidgin?
[04:41] <caustic> ephemient: crap... I didn't have this big of a problem before.
[04:41] <simplechat> kitche, ok, i'm rerunning it as root. also, it should copy over all the . files?
[04:42] <ephemient> caustic: is this something that broke recently?
[04:42] <kitche> simplechat: it might I m not sure about that
[04:42] <trwww> Jack_Sparrow: (11:32:05 PM) trwww: I have all "Put Computer to Sleep" settings set to "Never" at "System -> Preferences -> Power Management", yet the monitor goes blank and some ssh connections disconnect after not touching the keyboard for ~10 mins.
[04:42] <q_a_z_steve> VulcanRidr, http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?answer=49147 Isn't helping. Whenever I click on the account is says "Connection Error<EMAIL_ADDRESS>disconnected Server requires TLS/SSL for login. No TLS/SSL Support found." So then I try all the options in Advanced, to turn on this or that, and it doesn't connect to googletalk
[04:42] <bazhang> threefcata: that on a thinkpad?
[04:42] <threefcata> ehh not exactly the same but almost the same, you know, those lines in xorg.conf
[04:42] <caustic> ephiemient: no, I upgraded to 7.10, thas it.
[04:42] <threefcata> yes X31
[04:42] <ephemient> caustic: it worked before 7.10?
[04:42] <bazhang> threefcata: have you seen think wiki?
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> trwww: what about the bios settings for power mgmnt
[04:42] <caustic> ephemient: yeah.
[04:43] <ephemient> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller ?
[04:43] <q_a_z_steve> VulcanRidr, I built 2.2.2 for dapper since I couldn't find a repos, nor a .deb even though some say it was/is on getdeb.net .
[04:44] <caustic> ephemient: that
[04:44] <caustic> 's the weird part.
[04:45] <kitche> VulcanRidr: are you using http checkout or ssh? sicne I know how to sort of setup git for ssh access
[04:45] <ephemient> caustic: does the PCI ID of your card match that of any of the ones on that page?
[04:46] <VulcanRidr> kitche: I was trying to...
[04:46] <caustic> ephemient: Nope :(
[04:46] <trwww> Jack_Sparrow: googling ubuntu bios power management yeilds http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193838 which says the same thing (chek bios settings).
[04:46] <trwww> I have to reboot, right? brb...
[04:46] <kitche> VulcanRidr: http://eagain.net/blog/2007/03/22/howto-host-git.html seems to be a good guide for debian systems
[04:47] <q_a_z_steve> VulcanRidr, ephemient, do I have SSL Support in dapper???
[04:48] <jojobeans> howdy
[04:48] <VulcanRidr> q_a_z_steve: specifically under pidgin? Did you compile the option in?
[04:48] <q_a_z_steve> VulcanRidr, probably not, was unaware.
[04:49] <q_a_z_steve> I had to pull things like libxml-perl and things to even compile, never opted for ssl
[04:49] <VulcanRidr> Thanks for the link, kitche...Looking now.
[04:49] <MdL054> When I boot off the ubuntu install CD, it boots to Command Line (initrmfs). Anyone have any idea what that means now?
[04:49] <ephemient> caustic: looking it up... your sound card is driven by the same module
[04:49] <q_a_z_steve> VulcanRidr, I don't know why I have to use SSL anyway, that page doesn't say anything about it at all
[04:49] <ephemient> caustic: and it is true that the HDA part of ALSA is still in a bit of flux
[04:49] <Anthology> Hi, can someone refer me to a good data recovery program to recover an old ntfs partition?
[04:49] <caustic> ephemient It is? then what do I do?
[04:50] <VulcanRidr> q_a_z_steve: I didn't compile it, am using the one for gutsy from the repos.
[04:50] <scguy318> Anthology: testdisk
[04:50] <mohkohn> I have gutsy installed. It boots in single user mode but fails on "Loading acpi modules...
[04:50] <Anthology> thanks scguy318
[04:50] <mohkohn> How do I fix? or can I?
[04:50] <scguy318> mohkohn: try booting with acpi=off
[04:51] <cappiz> how do i make a deb from source? the source tree has a debian folder
[04:51] <ephemient> caustic: try updating ALSA; I'm looking for the best guide to doing so...
[04:51] <caustic> ephemient: thanks a ton.
[04:52] <mohkohn> will do. I just put that at the end  of  the grub menlu.list line? scguy318
[04:52] <JimmyTheNose> Is there any way to enable a restricted driver pre boot on a live cd/dvd? because if i try to enable a restricted driver using the restricted driver manager it tells me a reboot is necessary, which kind of sucks with a live cd ;)
[04:52] <scguy318> mohkohn: yeah
[04:52] <ephemient> caustic: of the suggestions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller, probably Method G is the easiest to try out first
[04:52] <mohkohn> ok will give it a go.
[04:52] <mohkohn> thanks
[04:52] <kitche> JimmyTheNose: all you have to do is restart X really
[04:52] <q_a_z_steve> VulcanRidr, do you think there is a dapper repos which would have done this for me??? I don't need version 2.2.2.
[04:53] <JimmyTheNose> hmm, tried that several times, the 'in use' checkbox was actually never ticked ...
[04:54] <fxfitz> Is there a way to make my ubuntu installation primarily spanish??
[04:54] <VulcanRidr> q_a_z_steve: Why do you specifically want to run pidgin rather than gaim?
[04:54] <q_a_z_steve> does gaim do jabber?
[04:55] <somerville32> q_a_z_steve, yes
[04:55] <ephemient> fxfitz: System > Administration > Language Support
[04:55] <caustic> brb
[04:55] <fxfitz> ephemient, I have changed it, but I see no spanish! :-P
[04:55] <ephemient> fxfitz: did you reboot?
[04:56] <q_a_z_steve> somerville32, that's the protocol for googletalk, right?
[04:56] <fxfitz> ephemient, Err. Hmm. Lets try that.
[04:56] <somerville32> q_a_z_steve, yup
[04:56] <navetz> how do i resize my partition?
[04:56] <q_a_z_steve> somerville32, VulcanRidr this says I want to use TLS if available and Require TLS :@
[04:56] <VulcanRidr> q_a_z_steve: Pidgin is gaim relabelled.
[04:57] <fxfitz> ephemient, Any idea what the difference between a check and a dash is in the Language Support window?
[04:57] <nephlim> hey gang
[04:57] <wol1> hi all, 1st time here
[04:57] <q_a_z_steve> VulcanRidr, so then why isn't pidgin working, is it because I didn't compile in? How to:...
[04:57] <ephemient> fxfitz: a dash probably means partial support
[04:57] <bazhang> hi wol1
[04:58] <wol1> Is there anyone who can answer an apt repo question?
[04:58] <wol1> hi!
[04:58] <somerville32> q_a_z_steve, Why did you compile it yourself?
[04:58] <somerville32> !ask | wol1
[04:58] <ubotu> wol1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:58] <ephemient> wol1: on IRC, don't ask "can I ask a question", just ask
[04:58] <ephemient> ah
[04:58] <nephlim> wol1, what's the question? :)
[04:58] <ephemient> heh
[04:58] <bazhang> wol1: likely yes
[04:58] <VulcanRidr> q_a_z_steve: Possibly. Did you do a ./configure --help? Is there an ssl option?
[04:58] <q_a_z_steve> somerville32, dapper has no repos, that I could find.
[04:58] <q_a_z_steve> VulcanRidr, is there a clean way of 'sudo make uninstall' if I get there?
[04:59] <nephlim> q_a_z_steve, did you try installing pidgin from apt-get?
[04:59] <wol1> I'm trying to upgrade from Dapper to Edgy (yeah, can't wait for 2008).  As of _right now_, ca.archive... is not up.
[04:59] <wol1> So, I edited my sources.list to remove the ca.
[04:59] <q_a_z_steve> nephlim, there's no repos for dapper that I can find
[04:59] <nephlim> q_a_z_steve, "sudo apt-get install pidgin" minus the " "
[04:59] <wol1> after learning that all canadian mirrors are very slow
[04:59] <JordiGH> How's wengophone as a replacement for Skype? Love it, hate it?
[04:59] <VulcanRidr> q_a_z_steve: You should be able to install overtop of the existing one.
[04:59] <bazhang> wol1: have you heard of source o matic?
[05:00] <somerville32> !source
[05:00] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[05:00] <q_a_z_steve> VulcanRidr, I'm talking if I do just use gaim
[05:00] <somerville32> erm
[05:00] <somerville32> !source-o-matic
[05:00] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:00] <q_a_z_steve> nephlim, what repos!!!
[05:00] <trwww> Jack_Sparrow: there is a power management section in the bios, but no option that says "Never Sleep" or anything like that.
[05:00] <trwww> The only thing I found was:
[05:00] <wol1> however, after all references for "ca.archive.ubuntu.com" has been changed to "archive.ubuntu.com", Synaptic and apt-get update STILL try to access it.  Can I make them totally forget about the existence of ca.archive.ubuntu.com?
[05:00] <ephemient> q_a_z_steve: I think we are all being confused by your usage of terminology here
[05:00] <trwww> "Serial  ATA DIPM"
[05:00] <ephemient> q_a_z_steve: of course Dapper has repositories: http://archive.ubuntu.com/archive/dists/dapper/
[05:00] <nephlim> q_a_z_steve, i'm not sure, i have gutsy installed, and the apt-get worked for me
[05:01] <richardjc> hello
[05:01] <somerville32> richardjc, hi
[05:01] <ephemient> err, typo
[05:01] <nephlim> q_a_z_steve, have you tried downloading the package directly from the ubuntu apt-get page?
[05:01] <richardjc> does anyone know where the java SDK directory is?
[05:01] <bazhang> wol1: try this: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[05:01] <richardjc> i'm trying to install the WTK
[05:01] <trwww> "When enabled, the internal hard drive may initiate power management transition requests.
[05:01] <q_a_z_steve> ephemient, show me a repository which will allow me to install pidgin for dapper
[05:01] <wol1> so the question in short is: can i totally remove a repository, making all the apt applications forget it?
[05:01] <ephemient> q_a_z_steve: oh, that's what you mean
[05:01] <trwww> I have an E1505N Dellbuntu
[05:01] <ephemient> q_a_z_steve: pidgin is not available for Dapper
[05:01] <q_a_z_steve> nephlim, of what "page" do you speak?
[05:01] <ephemient> q_a_z_steve: Gaim is
[05:02] <somerville32> wol1, Yes. Remove the repository and type and reload
[05:02] <nephlim> q_a_z_steve, one sec, i'll see if i can find it
[05:02] <somerville32> *and reload
[05:02] <bazhang> wol1: you can reconfigure your sources list at that link--worth a look imo
[05:02] <richardjc> anyone?
[05:02] <richardjc> help pls
[05:02] <wol1> "type and reload"?
[05:02] <nephlim> q_a_z_steve, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[05:02] <bazhang> wtk richardjc what's that
[05:02] <somerville32> richardjc, packages.ubuntu.com/
[05:02] <richardjc> wireless toolkit
[05:03] <osmosis> I have so many wireless problems on gutsy. Even more then I used to have on fiesty.
[05:03] <richardjc> i need to know the directory of the SDK
[05:03] <bazhang> not in repos richardjc?
[05:03] <richardjc> what folder is it in?
[05:03] <wol1> my sources.list contains no reference at all to ca.archive.ubuntu.com, but the tools are still trying to access it.  Is there a reason?
[05:03] <richardjc> not in repos
[05:03] <somerville32> wol1, Did you reload?
[05:03] <somerville32> wol1, apt-get update
[05:03] <somerville32> wol1, Or click "reload"
[05:03] <richardjc> This application requires Java 2 SDK, Standard Edition (1.5 or later). Enter a path to a Java 2 SDK (For example: /user/jdk1.5/bin). You can type "exit" to cancel installation.
[05:03] <bazhang> wol1: source-o-matic will help you out--check the link
[05:03] <ephemient> wol1: yeah, apt-get update, also check if there's any /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list
[05:03] <wol1> problem is, "sudo apt-get update" fails
[05:04] <somerville32> wol1, Because it is looking for ca.archive.ubuntu.com??
[05:04] <wol1> ...
[05:04] <wol1> Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Packages
[05:04] <wol1> Err http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release.gpg
[05:04] <wol1>   Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[05:04] <wol1> Fetched 6B in 2m0s (0B/s)
[05:04] <wol1> Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/Release.gpg Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[05:04] <wol1> Reading package lists... Done
[05:04] <nephlim> q_a_z_steve, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=pidgin&searchon=names&subword=1&version=gutsy&release=all
[05:04] <wol1> W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[05:04] <wol1> Yup
[05:04] <somerville32> !source-o-matic | wol1
[05:04] <ubotu> wol1: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:05] <richardjc> help?
[05:05] <bazhang> wol1: please check that link
[05:05] <ephemient> wol1: you're sure all references to ca.archive.ubuntu.com have been edited out of /etc/apt/sources.list & sources.list.d/*.list ?
[05:05] <q_a_z_steve> nephlim, did you happen to search that page, there's no mention of the word dapper
[05:05] <scguy318> richardjc: the question?
[05:05] <wol1> thanks...what i don't understand is...ok i'm checking sources.list.d/*list now
[05:05] <scguy318> wol1: just change the mirror in Software Sources
[05:05] <somerville32> richardjc, See http://packages.ubuntu.com
[05:05] <nephlim> q_a_z_steve, yes there is
[05:05] <richardjc> what folder is the JAVA SDK installed to??
[05:05] <nephlim> q_a_z_steve, the frist like i sent, it's the frist flavour mentioned
[05:06] <somerville32> richardjc, Visit http://packages.ubuntu.com to find out :)
[05:06] <wol1> argh, so just removing from sources.list is not enough, i have to remove from sources.list.d/*list
[05:06] <ephemient> nephlim, q_a_z_steve: there is no Pidgin for Dapper.  not in -updates, not in -backports, etc.
[05:06] <q_a_z_steve> !tell nephlim
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about  tell nephlim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <ephemient> wol1: yes, because /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list are merged into sources.list
[05:06] <scguy318> richardjc: lemme look
[05:07] <wol1> alright, thanks all!  I think i can manage it from now on.  you guys are very helpful.  I came from slackware since slack 3.5 and i *thought* i knew everything i needed, lol
[05:07] <bazhang> heh
[05:07] <somerville32> :)
[05:08] <MdSalih> Hello all
[05:08] <nephlim> sorry then, i thought there was
[05:08] <bazhang> hi MdSalih
[05:08] <nephlim> just trying to help
[05:08] <nephlim> q_a_z_steve, what happens when you try to build via source?
[05:09] <q_a_z_steve> nephlim, I can build, now, but I'm looking through ./configure for ssl I guess.
[05:09] <MdSalih> I'm trying to get ubuntu (7.10) live disk running on my laptop... however when i select teh start/install book option... it does something.. then displays: 01428F00
[05:09] <MdSalih> boot*
[05:09] <MdSalih> any idea what that could mean?
[05:10] <bazhang> MdSalih: is there a disk check option?
[05:10] <MdSalih> yes running that now
[05:10] <scguy318> richardjc: hmm, Synaptic wasn't particularly insightful
[05:10] <scguy318> richardjc: it just pointed me to /usr/share/doc
[05:11] <q_a_z_steve> VulcanRidr, ephemient nephlim http://q_a_z_steve.pastebin.org/9285
[05:11] <eyemean> hello all,
[05:11] <bazhang> hi eyemean
[05:11] <q_a_z_steve> VulcanRidr, ephemient nephlim should I use something like that?
[05:11] <MdSalih> disk check does the same thing.. displays: 01428F00
[05:11] <nonewmsgs> i have just installed xp on pata disk 1, ubuntu on pata disk 2 and am using /home and general storage on sata disk 1.  grub is written to pata disk 1.  is there a way to move grub to the other disk or install it there
[05:12] <eyemean> has any1 notice how sometimes wen u delete large files, ubuntu 7.10 deletes them but doesnt actually free the space
[05:12] <pwn> Can wget download a file with multiple threads?
[05:12] <nephlim> q_a_z_steve, i'm not sure. If it's configured wrong, you could always try it again right?
[05:12] <ephemient> pwn: see gnome-freeloader or aria2 packages
[05:12] <scguy318> eyemean: I haven't noticed
[05:13] <nephlim> just don't make install if it's borked
[05:13] <q_a_z_steve> nephlim, yeah, no problem, should I use one of those you think?
[05:13] <eyemean> ok, then i guess its just me, lol
[05:13] <ephemient> eyemean: if a file has link count greater than 1, deleting one link will free no space because it is still referenced by other links
[05:13] <nephlim> q_a_z_steve, try it out and see, worst that can happen is that you delete every file on your computer and then it catches fire
[05:13] <scguy318> pwn: not really, doing socket I/O for a single file doesn't really require a thread
[05:13] <q_a_z_steve> nephlim, I actually compiled all this from /Desktop/pidgin... any harm in moving that folder?
[05:13] <eyemean> ephemient, no i delete the files directly
[05:14] <LtEmerpoc> sup again guy
[05:14] <LtEmerpoc> sup again guys&&
[05:14] <scguy318> hello
[05:14] <LtEmerpoc> back again lol
[05:14] <q_a_z_steve> nephlim, lol
[05:14] <LtEmerpoc> to annoy people with my silly noob questions
[05:14] <scguy318> there are no noob questions :)
[05:14] <nephlim> q_a_z_steve, i usually make and cofig all that stuff in a /home/user folder
[05:14] <nephlim> q_a_z_steve, like, /home/dan/pidgin
[05:14] <q_a_z_steve> nephlim, I didn't think of that at first
[05:15] <LtEmerpoc> so scguy you think you can answer my question
[05:15] <nephlim> q_a_z_steve, but if you wanted to move the folder, i can't see a big deal. just move it before you make install
[05:15] <scguy318> LtEmerpoc: well shoot
[05:15] <pwn> scguy318: Thanks :)
[05:15] <nephlim> q_a_z_steve, just wondering, why no upgrade to gutsy?
[05:15] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[05:16] <LtEmerpoc> help me fix my resolution back to 1280x1024
[05:16] <Cpudan80> I need some help with my fstab file -- currently I have a FAT32 partition mounted, but nobody (not even root) can write to the partition
[05:16] <scguy318> LtEmerpoc: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and tell me what your monitor is
[05:16] <Cpudan80> How can I change the fstab file so that at least root can write to the partition ?
[05:16] <q_a_z_steve> nephlim, older computer, want to install less, LTS is huge to me
[05:16] <nephlim> q_a_z_steve, ahh
[05:16] <scguy318> Cpudan80: whats the fstab entry? you may want to stick like umask=000 for mount option
[05:16] <neil_d_> with an exe file how do I find out what .so files it linking with ?
[05:16] <mike_> hey dose any body have trouble unloading ipw3495
[05:17] <_nix_> Cpudan80: that partition is probably mounted read-only
[05:17] <Cpudan80> scguy318: UUID=0950-920C  /media/sdb4     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[05:17] <q_a_z_steve> nephlim, sooner or later I'm probably going to refer people to my website who ask that, you're about the 50th...
[05:17] <bruenig> mike_, did you kill the daemon too or just unload the module?
[05:17] <scguy318> Cpudan80: change that umask=007 to umask=000
[05:17] <Cpudan80> okie dokie
[05:17] <scguy318> neil_d_: since EXE files are of the PE format, and .so shared object files are in ELF, your question doesn't make sense :P
[05:17] <jayson_r> q_a_z_steve: Gutsy and Dapper are both supported till 2009, so LTS is almost a moot point at this time
[05:17] <_nix_> sigh
[05:17] <q_a_z_steve> nephlim, website contents would be the explanation and a counter lol
[05:17] <Cpudan80> scguy318: Can I somehow remount the stuff without rebooting the whole PC?
[05:17] <scguy318> Cpudan80: sure
[05:17] <scguy318> Cpudan80: sudo mount -a
[05:18] <nephlim> q_a_z_steve, i'm really not all about the latest and greatest. i havn't updated my mac yet either
[05:18] <LtEmerpoc> http://www.pastebin.org/9270
[05:18] <scguy318> Cpudan80: sudo umount -a then that
[05:18] <mike_> well my laptop wont sleep. after dooing allot of poking aorund i discovers that it can't unload the module for my wireles card.
[05:18] <K>  What's the best free media player for ubuntu? This program 'totem' that came preinstalled can't play dvds for some reason.
[05:18] <scguy318> Cpudan80: or just sudo umount the mount point
[05:18] <scguy318> K: VLC, mplayer
[05:18] <bruenig> mike_, oh so you haven't tried to unload the module, you have just realized that hibernation won't do it?
[05:18] <LtEmerpoc> its a 19" widescreen..
[05:18] <scguy318> K: if the reason you can't play is because the DVD is CSS protected
[05:18] <neil_d_> scguy318, ok I used the wrong terminology I just complied a file with gcc, I want to know what .so files its using.
[05:18] <scguy318> !medibuntu | K
[05:18] <ubotu> K: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[05:18] <scguy318> neil_d_: ah, lemme look
[05:19] <q_a_z_steve> DOES anyone in here have a bunch of rhythmbox internet radio stations they can help me get configured? I somehow deleted mine!?
[05:19] <Cpudan80> scguy318: still no go
[05:19] <_nix_> neil_d: ldd <file> should give an output
[05:19] <nephlim> q_a_z_steve, www.somafm.com SFW
[05:19] <mike_> bruenig_, i did try to unload it once but i did not kill the daemon. how shoudl i go about dooing that.?
[05:19] <eyemean> sometimes i goto windows and check the ubuntu waste folder and still find items in it, even though i deleted the files in ubuntu, they were not links
[05:19] <nephlim> the best 11 FREE streaming electronic radio stations out there
[05:19] <LtEmerpoc> yeah scguy... its weird
[05:20] <bruenig> mike_, I think ipw3945d --kill
[05:20] <Cpudan80> Wait a minute
[05:20] <ephemient> eyemean: I meant hardlinks not symlinks... not what you were thinking of?
[05:20] <Cpudan80> It's just the one folder that is screwed up
[05:20] <K> are many dvds protected by css?
[05:20] <Cpudan80> Damn windows file permissions
[05:20] <scguy318> K: commerical ones yes
[05:20] <K> does mplayer come with a css reader?
[05:20]  * Cpudan80 beats his computer
[05:20] <neil_d_> scguy318, thanks.
[05:20] <scguy318> K: you'll need to install libdvdcss2
[05:20] <K> code..
[05:20] <scguy318> K: from Medibuntu
[05:20] <eyemean> ephemient, sorry im not sure wat u mean m8
[05:20] <mike_> bruenig_, wow ok i will try that. now. i am on wired network so i wont go offline
[05:20] <serge> any problems with turning trackerd off?
[05:20] <K> scguy318:  ok thanks
[05:21] <serge> on a laptop, that is.
[05:21] <K> ty all
[05:21] <scguy318> LtEmerpoc: have you pasted your xorg.conf yet? this channel is a flood
[05:21] <bruenig> mike_, you know they have new drivers for ipw3945 that don't require a daemon, iwl3945 is the name of the module
[05:21] <bomb> Hey everyone, I know this isnt ubuntu spcecific, but I would like to get my sprint treo 650 to verizon. I have checked out shadowmites site and it seems kinda out dated...is there ANYONE here that might be able to help me find what I need?
[05:22] <bruenig> !ot | bomb
[05:22] <ubotu> bomb: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:22] <bomb> heh, thanks.
[05:22] <pwn> scguy318: I tried both those packages. freeloader doesn't say anything about mulithreaded downloads. Aria2 didn't even work. Anything else?
[05:22] <MasterShrek> bomb, look for a hack to unlock it
[05:22] <neil_d_> I am using gcc to compile a program is there anyway I can force it not to use any '.so' files, so it would be stand alone ?
[05:22] <scguy318> LtEmerpoc: have you pasted your xorg.conf yet?
[05:22] <Kalamansi> gksu gedit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[05:22] <Kalamansi> -bash: gksu: command not found
[05:22] <LtEmerpoc> scguy yeah.. i did.. but i just noticed that.. there are more than one in the folder
[05:23] <MasterShrek> gksudo
[05:23] <_nix_> neil_d: you may want to pass the -static flag
[05:23] <bomb> MasterShrek, I have been looking for days..I thought I would come here since there is the most people here and im sure ONE of you have done this hack. Thanks though
[05:23] <scguy318> pwn: you don't need multithreaded downloading
[05:23] <Kalamansi> thanks
[05:23] <ephemient> neil_d_: -static
[05:23] <scguy318> pwn: for a download manager I would use d4x
[05:23] <pwn> scguy318: Yes I do
[05:23] <neil_d_> _nix_, ephemient ok I will try.
[05:23] <nephlim> q_a_z_steve, what did you think of somafm?
[05:23] <pwn> scguy318: I have 2 internet lines with a load balancing router
[05:23] <Kalamansi> MasterShrek:
[05:23] <Kalamansi> gksudo gedit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[05:23] <Kalamansi> -bash: gksudo: command not found
[05:23] <q_a_z_steve> nephlim, I'll have to take a look in a bit, looks okay, I'll be back in a bit.
[05:24] <ephemient> Kalamansi: are you running a full Ubuntu desktop, or Kubuntu, or Xubuntu, or none?
[05:24] <mike_> bruenig_, well i can find ipw3945d-2.6.2 using tab completion but it says command not found when i try to execute it. even as root.
[05:25] <Kalamansi> ephemient : ubuntu 6.06LTS server
[05:25] <scguy318> pwn: doesn't mean you need to thread, which is of questionable value anyway
[05:25] <mike_> bruenig_, where would i find that other driver you talked about
[05:25] <pwn> scguy318: If I don't then it'll only use either of my lines.
[05:25] <MasterShrek> Kalamansi, without a gui youd have to use sudo vi or sudo nano
[05:25] <ephemient> Kalamansi: ah. a) are you running X? b) what's your preferred editor?
[05:25] <ephemient> Kalamansi: yeah.  just use "sudo $EDITOR /etc/ssh/sshd_config"
[05:26] <Kalamansi> ephemient : i dont run X.pure console
[05:26] <scguy318> pwn: isn't that a matter of tweaking interface metric?
[05:26] <osmosis> mike_: wireless issues ?
[05:26] <neil_d_> _nix_, ephemient, well that worked but it sure made a quite simple program very big.
[05:26] <scguy318> pwn: not that I'm a networking expert, but perhaps take a shot at d4x
[05:27] <_nix_> neil_d: it packaged a lot of libraries into a single file.. that was expected
[05:28] <Tornadochas3r01> hi everyone
[05:28] <osmosis> mike_: I have wireless issues. Just wondering if its the same thing.
[05:28] <LtEmerpoc> scguy did you hear what i said?
[05:28] <osmosis> Tornadochas3r01: hi
[05:28] <linux88> how do you unload xchat plugins? well scripts?
[05:28] <scguy318> LtEmerpoc: I didn't
[05:28] <scguy318> LtEmerpoc: if it was a PM you need to register
[05:28] <mike_> osmosis: no, suspend issues wireless works great. but my computer wont sleep because it cant unload the module for my card. i told it to ignore the fact that it can  not unload and it fails to resume from sleep. this was not a problem in fiesty. but i am using gusty now
[05:29] <snausage> is it possible to add mp3 playback for gusty 7.1?
[05:29] <osmosis> mike_: stock wireless module, or custom ?
[05:29] <scguy318> !restricted | snausage
[05:29] <ubotu> snausage: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:29] <ephemient> !RestrictedFormats | snausage
[05:29] <buttercups> linux88, window>Plugin and scripts
[05:29] <ephemient> argh
[05:29] <LtEmerpoc> well i pasted it
[05:29] <ephemient> I'mn too slow :)
[05:29] <scguy318> LtEmerpoc: linky?
[05:29] <Tornadochas3r01> now this is kinda off topic i dont know were else to ask it, i have a ubuntu server, and i have questiton about bandwidth, my download and upload speed is very slow for everyone ouside my router, how by any change do i make my connectiton faster ( sorry very long and dumb  questiton ) sorry
[05:30] <LtEmerpoc> http://www.pastebin.org/9270
[05:30] <mike_> osmosis: it came with ubuntu it is just whatever ubuntu wanted to use.
[05:30] <linux88> buttercups I'm sorry. I don't know what you mean?
[05:30] <snausage> !restricted
[05:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:30] <scguy318> Tornadochas3r01: might be an ISP thing, have you tried running speed tests?
[05:30] <LtEmerpoc> in the X11 folder it says xconf1 and xconf2
[05:30] <ephemient> Tornadochas3r01: how fast *should* things be, and how fast are they?
[05:30] <LtEmerpoc> there are more than 2
[05:31] <snausage> sorry <-- new  i have no idea what that means
[05:31] <Tornadochas3r01> o wetre ahould i go foe a speed test
[05:31] <scguy318> LtEmerpoc: probably xorg.con backups generated
[05:31] <scguy318> *conf
[05:31] <buttercups> linux88, you asked how to unload plugins in xchat, thats the location
[05:31] <Tornadochas3r01> oops bad spelling
[05:31] <Tornadochas3r01> were should a go for a speed test
[05:31] <osmosis> mike_: what kind of wireless hardware do you have ?
[05:31] <scguy318> Tornadochas3r01: http://www.speedtest.net/ is an obvious choice
[05:31] <linux88> buttercups :P I feel so ashamed now.
[05:31] <scguy318> Tornadochas3r01: there are other sites
[05:31] <Tornadochas3r01> o
[05:31] <Tornadochas3r01> k
[05:31] <scguy318> Tornadochas3r01: keep in mind that results will vary with internet conditions
[05:31] <Tornadochas3r01> i will try that thnaks
[05:31] <Tornadochas3r01> o
[05:31] <Tornadochas3r01> thatnks byy
[05:32] <scguy318> LtEmerpoc: what is the make/model of your monitor?
[05:32] <MinusSeven> With irssi, i can type a space, then hit enter, and it goes through
[05:32] <snausage> any idea why  with gusty 7.10 my laptop wont run off battery?
[05:32] <MinusSeven> is there a setting that stops that?
[05:32] <scguy318> !ops | twolazy
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[05:32] <wers> what is oo.o based on?
[05:32] <Tornadochas3r01> Dam people stopfoding r spamming
[05:32] <scguy318> !ops | toolazy
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[05:32] <mike_> osmosis: i have intel 3945ABG
[05:32] <osmosis> mike_: yah, thats what I have.
[05:33] <mike_> same problem?
[05:33] <linux88> buttercups, well... i searched there but the script is not there. I right clicked and did Load Plugin or Script. And thats how I installed it.
[05:33] <osmosis> mike_: on a Inspiron 1420
[05:33] <osmosis> mike_: no, mine suspends just fine. But I have problems with wireles stop working frequently.
[05:33] <scguy318> LtEmerpoc: what is the make/model of your monitor?
[05:33] <z0rz> When I stream videos from my vista machine to my ubuntu machine they freezes up in full screen.. MPlayer seems to do fine, but Totem and VLC freezes up in full screen mode (My xbox is also able to stream fine) What's my solution?
[05:33] <mike_> osmosis: i have a sony vgn-txn27cn
[05:33] <LtEmerpoc> envision...
[05:34] <LtEmerpoc> thats all i know
[05:34] <wers> what is oo.o based on? before, its UI fonts followed my .fonts.conf's setting. now, it does not follow my gnome's font setting
[05:34] <scguy318> LtEmerpoc: alright, can you also pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[05:34] <solidunit> how do i keep startx from going straight to gnome ?
[05:34] <ephemient> solidunit: create and put what you want to run into ~/.xinitrc
[05:34] <LtEmerpoc> well where do i find that?
[05:35] <carbanm> alright, i have a really noobish question
[05:35] <tronyx> what's up carbanm
[05:35] <carbanm> how can i use a broadcom wifi card with ubuntu?
[05:35] <cryonv> I have many of those... ;)
[05:35] <scguy318> LtEmerpoc: in the location I just mentioned :P
[05:35] <carbanm> i'm using windows right now, so i have to find a way to download the needed files before booting to ubuntu
[05:35] <scguy318> carbanm: you can use Restricted drivers (not really working all that great) or use ndiswrapper
[05:35] <solidunit> thx ephemient
[05:35] <mike_> osmosis: yaa if you do unload the module it will often get messed up. if you never suspend it will work fine. thats how it was in fiesty. to fix the problem gusty did somthing to prevent it from beeing unloaded.
[05:35] <carbanm> does NDISwrapper work off the bat?
[05:35] <scguy318> carbanm: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[05:36] <carbanm> scguy318: thanks
[05:36] <scguy318> carbanm: off the bat as in just installing it, no
[05:36] <scguy318> carbanm: you also have to do a few steps
[05:36] <osmosis> mike_: hmm..well, i know there is a new driver out now that isnt in gutsy yet.
[05:36] <carbanm> is there any easy fix that won't require ubuntu to have a connection?
[05:36] <scguy318> carbanm: the guide shows how to install ndiswrapper without internet
[05:36] <carbanm> awesome
[05:36] <carbanm> thanks guys
[05:36] <mike_> osmosis: do you knwo where i can find this driver. :)
[05:37] <snausage> can anyone point me to a page  for installs for a total newb to ubuntu?????
[05:37] <scguy318> !install | snausage
[05:37] <ubotu> snausage: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[05:37] <ephemient> carbanm: and for the other method, you can find the sources it wants from googling bcm43xx-fwcutter
[05:37] <Tornadochas3r01> well its weird i have a 2mb upload for my isp and when someone downloads form my server its 20 kbs for them less than dail up
[05:37] <snausage> i dont mind reading just as long as i can follow :)
[05:37] <osmosis> mike_: I haven't tried it. Let me know how it goes.  http://intellinuxwireless.org/
[05:37] <cryonv> What major issues are then when installing ubuntu on a USB drive...
[05:38] <z0rz> I had a bad install of mythbox on my ubuntu 7.10 desktop ... how can I remove mythbox completely and start over fresh?
[05:38] <GuHHH> is there any way i can use user's quota and group's quota if i just have one partition?
[05:38] <scguy318> Tornadochas3r01: might be something with his ISP, or something
[05:38] <Tornadochas3r01> o ok
[05:38] <Tornadochas3r01> thanks
[05:38] <cryonv> Not a flash drive... but an actual external USB hard drive...
[05:38] <allenc> suggestions for a program to play mp3's that will randomize play of files?
[05:38] <mike_> osmosis: i will let you know. how can i contact you? just come back here?
[05:38] <Tornadochas3r01>  well everyone isp does that it must be mine
[05:38] <scguy318> !player | allenc
[05:38] <ubotu> allenc: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[05:39] <scguy318> allenc: VLC is one
[05:39] <scguy318> allenc: mplayer
[05:39] <scguy318> allenc: lots of players to choose from
[05:39] <allenc> lol... any preferences?
[05:39] <scguy318> allenc: I use VLC
[05:39] <jediborger> Does anyone know howto link two directories together?
[05:39] <DigitalNinja_> I would like to test clamassassin. Is there a place I can get a virus?
[05:39] <osmosis> mike_: yah, sure.
[05:39] <scguy318> DigitalNinja_: sure, the EICAR test file
[05:39] <Dr_willis> jediborger,  you may want to clairfy that  a bit.
[05:39] <DigitalNinja_> Thanks
[05:40] <DigitalNinja_> Oh
[05:40] <jediborger> for example the link from cdrom in / to /media/cdrom
[05:40] <Centaur5> Isn't Gutsy supposed to support winmodems out of the box?
[05:40] <rbil> what key combo is used during booting Gutsy so that it boots up showing the details of the boot?
[05:40] <DigitalNinja_> scguy318: Where do I get EICAR from?
[05:40] <Dr_willis> jediborger,  ln -s /one/place /other/place
[05:40] <mike_> osmosis: i wont be installing it tonight. it is 1:40 am where i am. but thanks for the help. and i will come back and report my findings
[05:40] <scguy318> DigitalNinja_:
[05:40] <scguy318> X5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H*
[05:40] <jediborger> when I try to create links between directories using ln I get you can't create hard links, and symbolic tells me operation not permitted
[05:40] <scguy318> DigitalNinja_: that string
[05:41] <scguy318> DigitalNinja_: is the EICAR test file
[05:41] <Wifi-Phreak> Can anyone tell me how to go about setting up a nessused server and or creating a login?
[05:41] <scguy318> DigitalNinja_: their site has that string also
[05:41] <Dr_willis> jediborger,  crossing filesystems, you cant use hard links. Youmust use soft links.
[05:41] <scguy318> DigitalNinja_: http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm
[05:41] <DigitalNinja_> scguy318: Do I add that to an email
[05:41] <Dr_willis> jediborger,  you may be just using the ln -s command inproperly.
[05:41] <jediborger> I'm staying on one filesystem
[05:41] <scguy318> DigitalNinja_: it would be like in an attachment
[05:41] <scguy318> DigitalNinja_: or w/e
[05:42] <scguy318> DigitalNinja_: or file
[05:42] <jediborger> I'm actually copying the install cd to a usb drive
[05:42] <DigitalNinja> I see
[05:42] <DigitalNinja> Thanks
[05:42] <DigitalNinja> I'll give it a try
[05:42] <snausage> anyone have a good link for install most prog's for ubuntu 7.10
[05:42] <jediborger> but the symlinks didn't copy so I'm trying to recreate them and running into problems
[05:42] <scguy318> snausage: sure, Synaptic Package Manager or Add/Remove ;)
[05:42] <scguy318> LtEmerpoc: have you pasted? I'm probably missing all your messages :(
[05:42] <LtEmerpoc> hey scguy..
[05:42] <bullgard4> I have two laptop computers with Ubuntu 7.10. One has a directory /usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>/ . Why doesn't have the other it as well?
[05:42] <LtEmerpoc> http://pastebin.org/9288
[05:42] <scguy318> LtEmerpoc: thanks
[05:43] <Dr_willis> jediborger,  thers some extra options to cp one would normally use to do that. Or use some fancy tar command tomake a exact copy including the links.
[05:43] <ltemerpocsus> im still here scguy
[05:43] <ltemerpocsus> im on 2 computers
[05:43] <scguy318> LtEmerpoc: lemme edit your xorg.conf
[05:43] <ltemerpocsus> ok...
[05:43] <bigdissaved> does anyoone know why zlib_inflate is not built on 7.10 server?
[05:44] <linux_> what's this mean :   C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[05:44] <allenc> ok, vlc is playing it but won't stop...lol
[05:44] <rbil> is there a key combination that turns off the graphical boot loader and boots in text mode?
[05:44] <jediborger> cp -l source destination worked
[05:44] <BedOfRoses> PLEASE JOIN ##SPORKS WE PAYPAL $10 TO THE FIRST 5 ONES WHO JOIN!
[05:44] <jediborger> thanks for the help
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[05:45] <allenc> kick/ban
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[05:45] <Wifi-Phreak> Anybody know of a good program to record music from my laptop as its playing?
[05:45] <linux_> what's this mean :   C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[05:45] <allenc> how do I get vlc to stop playing?
[05:46] <nephlim> Wifi-Phreak, i think xmms can do that with one of its plugins
[05:46] <crazy6> what's the boot option to force VESA instead of ATI? I get a blank screen with 7.10 install CD :(
[05:46] <Wifi-Phreak> Do you know which plugin?
[05:46] <qball680> audacity Wifi
[05:46] <scguy318> crazy6: safe graphics
[05:46] <DigitalNinja_> I got a virus!
[05:46] <scguy318> allenc: the stop button :P
[05:46] <Wifi-Phreak> You know I tired that
[05:46] <DigitalNinja_> I guess clamassassin is working
[05:47] <scguy318> Itemerpocsus: k ive edited
[05:47] <scguy318> Itemerpocsus: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:47] <allenc> scguy318: doesn't work... even closed the program.....  lol
[05:47] <Wifi-Phreak> I'm having trouble being able to play the song and record at the same time with audacity
[05:47] <scguy318> Itemerpocsus: http://www.pastebin.org/9290
[05:47] <rzimek78> where can I find new visualizations of analyzer for Amarok? I can't find it
[05:47] <scguy318> allenc: strange
[05:47] <allenc> scguy318: how do I show process and kill it?
[05:47] <scguy318> allenc: ps -A
[05:48] <crazy6> scguy318: as an option in the bootloader?
[05:48] <scguy318> allenc: then kill PID
[05:48] <scguy318> crazy6: well, no, its the menu option
[05:48] <Wifi-Phreak> How do I config my computer to use the audio card for more than one program
[05:48] <Wifi-Phreak> I use to be able to do that
[05:48] <scguy318> crazy6: its not a bootloader thing
[05:48] <raz0r> yeah
[05:48] <raz0r> patrick whattup
[05:48] <raz0r> some girls are just not fit for reality
[05:48] <linux_> what's this mean :   C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[05:48] <scguy318> ltemerpocsus: http://www.pastebin.org/9290
[05:49] <allenc> scguy318: better, thanks!
[05:49] <crazy6> scguy318: uh, well, if I select Start or Install from the bootloader, it thinks are the kubuntu splash for a while, and then black screen; isn't there a video=vesa option for "F6 Other Options" at hte bootloader?
[05:49] <simplyubuntu> hello all!
[05:49] <scguy318> ltemerpocsus: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf paste that in
[05:49] <scguy318> ltemerpocsus: the text box at bottom has the text
[05:49] <simplyubuntu> can anyone recommend a good p2p client for ubuntu?
[05:49] <scguy318> !p2p | simplyubuntu
[05:49] <ubotu> simplyubuntu: Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information
[05:49] <cryonv> Any Grub experts?
[05:49] <scguy318> crazy6: vga=... yeah, but that's for the boot phase I think
[05:49] <scguy318> crazy6: you're describing an X issue
[05:49] <pakratt> I just installed gutsy on a toshiba satellite a135 and I can't get grub to install
[05:50] <simplyubuntu> im tired of frostwire using up all my resources!
[05:50] <scguy318> crazy6: try the alternate CD if X doesn't want to work
[05:50] <linux_> what's this mean :   C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[05:50] <ltemerpocsus> scguy i cant see what you pasted
[05:50] <cryonv> pakratt: That makes two of us...
[05:50] <pakratt> cryonv, what's the problem? I've been messing with it a lot recently
[05:50] <scguy318> linux_: have you installed build-essential?
[05:50] <simplyubuntu> !DirectConnect
[05:50] <ubotu> Direct Connect clients: Valknut (Qt), dcgui (GTK), dc-qt (Qt, alpha), rccp (terminal-based) - See also !P2P
[05:50] <linux_> yes,i'm sure i have
[05:50] <simplyubuntu> !SoulSeek
[05:50] <ubotu> SoulSeek clients: Nicotine (GTK), Museeq (KDE), Mucous (terminal-based) - See also !P2P
[05:50] <Wifi-Phreak> nephlim: Do you know what the plugin is?
[05:51] <scguy318> ltemerpocsus: http://www.pastebin.org/9290
[05:51] <scguy318> ltemerpocsus: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf paste that in
[05:51] <scguy318> ltemerpocsus: then restart X
[05:51] <crazy6> scguy318: gah, it'd be alot easier if I could just get it working with a software / vesa driver first and then web update to get the restricted!
[05:51] <cryonv> pakratt: i'm installing on a DELL Inspiron XPS... and I can't get Gub to install on the primary drive to boot a USB drive
[05:51] <z0rz> I had a bad install of mythbox on my ubuntu 7.10 desktop ... how can I remove mythbox completely and start over fresh?
[05:51] <nephlim> Wifi-Phreak, not off the top of my head, no. sorry
[05:51] <scguy318> crazy6: you could just install with alternate CD
[05:52] <scguy318> crazy6: on the LiveCD you MIGHT be able to switch to tty1 then login
[05:52] <scguy318> crazy6: Ctrl-Alt-F1
[05:52] <ltemerpocsus> okay got it.. saved it.. now what do i do?
[05:52] <Wifi-Phreak> Do you know where I might find it?
[05:52] <scguy318> crazy6: then I guess edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually
[05:52] <steven_> http://pastebin.com/mf2b07cd : i am having a read write file error
[05:52] <scguy318> crazy6: or sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:52] <crazy6> scguy318: black screen prevented that... trying with no splash and seeing if that'll leave me at terminal
[05:53] <crazy6> scguy318: well, there is a console based installer too, no?
[05:53] <allenc> any reason why ubuntu doesn't recognize <IP_ADDRESS> (the ip) as the machine (host) name HAL-9000 ?
[05:53] <ma2> is there A WAY i can convert my .win games to play on linux ?
[05:53] <Rich4> Need help: Received error after attempt to add/remove program "song write" : "W: Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tex-common/tex-common_1.9_all.deb, Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (113 No route to host)"
[05:54] <crazy6> ha, video=vesa worked! schweet!
[05:54] <Hirvinen> !wine | ma2
[05:54] <ubotu> ma2: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[05:54] <Cpudan80> ma2: Sure, reprogram them
[05:54] <scguy318> Rich4: change your mirror in Software Sources
[05:54] <ltemerpocsus> hey scguy
[05:54] <ltemerpocsus> didnt work
[05:54] <scguy318> crazy6: yes, the alternate CD
[05:54] <ma2> cpudan80:how ? is there a program that would do that for me ?
[05:54] <Cpudan80> ma2: Apart from that, wine is your best bet (although it it doesn't do well for 3D intensive games)
[05:54] <scguy318> Itemerpocsus: why not?
[05:54] <therealnanotube> Cpudan80: heh good one
[05:54] <scguy318> Itemerpocsus: still not able to switch?
[05:54] <ltemerpocsus> i dont know
[05:54] <scguy318> Cpudan80: lies :P
[05:55] <scguy318> Cpudan80: it does some games very nicely
[05:55] <Cpudan80> ma2: Nope, you gotta use your blood sweat and tears man
[05:55] <ltemerpocsus> its running in low graphics again..
[05:55] <ltemerpocsus> like its been doing for yeah
[05:55] <ltemerpocsus> the last hour or so
[05:55] <Cpudan80> scguy318: Ok, let me rephrase that to say "Games which depend on DirectX"
[05:55] <ma2> cpudan80:way is there not any good games for linux?
[05:55] <Cpudan80> ma2: Because game developers want to make money, not enough *nix users
[05:55] <Dr_willis> ma2,  i find quite a few good games..
[05:56] <Cpudan80> And Dr_willis is right, there a quite a few good games
[05:56] <Dr_willis> ma2,  i wonder why theres so many over priced/overhyped games for windows/ps2/ps3/xbox/ect..
[05:56] <ma2> dr_willis:which games ? where can i get the full games ?
[05:56] <scguy318> Itemerpocsus: try this one http://www.pastebin.org/9291
[05:56] <Dr_willis> 'full' ? The ones im refering to are GPL/Free :)
[05:56]  * Dr_willis is cheap.
[05:56] <allenc> too bad WOW isn't one of them... :)
[05:56] <Dr_willis> Wow Can (#*&@*  :)