[05:50] <ubotu> NeoThermic: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[05:50] <h1st0> Innomen: Google and the forums are are good source also
[05:50] <scguy318> NeoThermic: Gutsy is Gutsy
[05:50] <NeoThermic> scguy318: current, not next :P
[05:50] <scguy318> NeoThermic: oh, Feisty
[05:50] <NeoThermic> ah, dapper is thusly old :P
[05:50] <PKdoR> so can any one aid me in istalling the Azureus_<IP_ADDRESS>_linux.tar.bz2 file I downloaded?
[05:51] <scguy318> NeoThermic: Gutsy is rapidly approaching current tho :P
[05:51] <demon_spork> wow, it is October 2007 right now
[05:51] <NeoThermic> scguy318: 15 days :)
[05:51] <Innomen> i type quickly and think quickly and a sentence is a complete thought, and sometimes my thoughts are a function of other thoughts, stop hassling me because i type fast
[05:51] <demon_spork> time has really flown by
[05:51] <scguy318> NeoThermic: :D
[05:51] <Pelo> demon_spork,  since yesterday
[05:51] <knopper_> 16 days its released...Woooo!
[05:51] <dbkim> zetheroo, I tried to connect my ppc on ubuntu but failed
[05:51] <Innomen> its not like i'm hitting eneter every other word to stack and get attention, i cant help it so back off
[05:51] <NeoThermic> anyway, damn. I don't appear to have a spare CDR
[05:51] <Dr_willis> knopper_,  they got a long 16 days ahead of them.
[05:51] <Pelo> Innomen, this is a very busy channel  it makes you hard to follow
[05:51] <NeoThermic> so I guess I'll have to make do with dapper :|
[05:51] <knopper_> ya but its gonna be worth it..
[05:51] <Innomen> this place scrolls like a stock ticker during the day anyway, at least you can see what i'm typing
[05:52] <Innomen> this is nothing, come back at 5pm eastern
[05:52] <NeoThermic> ok, screw dapper, it failed to set up X right :)
[05:52] <h1st0> NeoThermic: what type of video card do you have?
[05:52] <Innomen> also i cant touch type, and when i look up i see something i want to respond too, give me a hard limit, how many seconds between enter strokes?
[05:52] <PKdoR> never mind i got to go but I will be back
[05:52] <h1st0> !offtopic > Innomen
[05:52] <NeoThermic> hehe, (WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1), (EE) No devices detected
[05:52] <NeoThermic> :)
[05:53] <NeoThermic> it's an Intel GMA, not 1000% sure of which since dapper doesn't like it
[05:53] <h1st0> NeoThermic: hrm.. you could sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org to get it straight
[05:53] <h1st0> NeoThermic: it may be using the rong busid or something.
[05:53] <Innomen> h1st0: lay off, i'm explaining to pelo why he/she should refrain from scolding me for something i cant help, next i'll get scolded for being tall and having a limp (which i am/do)
[05:53] <NeoThermic> h1st0: the busid is correct (I remember that bit while in windows)
[05:54] <benn92647_> it is meeeeeee
[05:54] <h1st0> NeoThermic: hrm... possibly try different drivers.  ex: switching to vesa or installing proper intel drivers.
[05:54] <NeoThermic> h1st0: the problem is that I'm using dapper liveCD. I'll just wait 15 days and buy myself a pack of CDRs and use 7.10 :)
[05:54] <trogdor> benn92647: mario?
[05:54] <knopper_> does anyone know if the new version of GIMP is going to be in gutsy?
[05:54] <usser> it is mario????
[05:55] <NeoThermic> Sorry benn92647_, but your princess is in another castle.
[05:55] <Pelo> knopper_, what ever the latest one is
[05:55] <usr13> knopper_: Yes,
[05:55] <benn92647_> LOL
[05:55] <DoYouKnow> hi
[05:55] <knopper_> awsome, sounds great
[05:55] <benn92647_> K BRB
[05:56] <DoYouKnow> are there any clones of the MacOS processes utility for linux or something similar?
[05:56] <riotkittie> yay. internets.
[05:56] <Innomen> dont private message me without permission
[05:56] <Innomen> thanks
[05:56] <Pelo> knopper_,  gutsy will have the newest prettiest , shiniest everything , ever
[05:56] <h1st0> !attitude > Innomen
[05:56] <usser> DoYouKnow: ps?
[05:56] <usser> DoYouKnow: top?
[05:56] <Innomen> the bot dosent egt to send me pms anymore either
[05:56] <DoYouKnow> no, I mean a GUI tool
[05:56] <DoYouKnow> for gnome or something
[05:56] <Innomen> yay for irc being flexable
[05:56] <usser> DoYouKnow: theres ksysguard in kde
[05:57] <rudelerius> Please help.  I made the mistake of mounting my samba share into my home directory; I changed the mount point to /mnt/share, but the folders from my share still show up in my home folder and I get an error message whenever I login that states that my ~/.dmrc file is being ignored and my home folder must be owned by me, etc.   How do I remove the shared folders from my home directory and get control of my home directory back?  All my little de
[05:57] <punsad> DoYouKnow: I thought gnome had something like a 'task manager'
[05:57] <nickren> is there an easy and safe way to change partitions after install
[05:57] <Innomen> i was sititng here not saying a word, let it go control freaks
[05:57] <Pelo> Innomen, that' wasn'T a pm , it's a notice
[05:57] <trogdor> rudelerius: umount?
[05:57] <nickren> using a gui
[05:57] <DoYouKnow> punsad, System Monitor, I'm looking at it now, but it isn't as good as the MacOS gui
[05:57] <h1st0> rudelerius: just rm -rf the folders
[05:57] <DoYouKnow> for example I can't get information on ttys
[05:57] <Innomen> semantics
[05:57] <h1st0> rudelerius: and you can chown and chgrp yoru /home/username
[05:58] <Innomen> if you dislike me, cease speaking to me, i'm not gunna just be quiet while you berate me, but i can let it drop if you can, whats it gunna be?
[05:58] <rudelerius> trogdor, I'll try that
[05:58] <rudelerius> h2st0 I tried that, but I got an error (I used -R) when it got the shared folders
[05:58] <h1st0> rudelerius: if you've already changed the mount location then you can safely delete the folders in your home
[05:58] <riotkittie> hmm. i wonder if i should try ndiswrapper on that-which-shall-not-be-discussed-here
[05:58] <joules> .. so i am relatively pleased with the latest gutsy release but compiz is a little messed up.. and i really dont know which manager to use anyone has a default that has most of everything
[05:59] <h1st0> rudelerius: sudo rm -rf /home/username/mountpoint
[05:59] <trogdor> riotkittie: tried on what?
[05:59] <h1st0> rudelerius: since they are probably owned by root thats why you got an error
[05:59] <h1st0> !gutsy > joules
[05:59] <rudelerius> h1st0, thanks - I have changed the mount point in /etc/fstab
[05:59] <DoYouKnow> riotkittie, the native drivers work fine for that
[05:59] <DoYouKnow> you just have to tinker with them
[05:59] <Pelo> joules,  you would do better to ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:59] <trogdor> h1st0: dude.. don't be an ass he just need to umount the network share
[05:59] <DoYouKnow> turn the card on and off, change the access point to something else then back to the correct one
[05:59] <rudelerius> h1st0- deleting the folders in the home folder will not remove them from the share?  I'm scared to do that! :)
[05:59] <h1st0> trogdor: no he doesn't if you read
[05:59] <DoYouKnow> eventually dhclient will work
[06:00] <riotkittie> DoYouKnow: i'm not a native-driver-tinkerer-with-them-er ... and i'd have no clue where to start :P
[06:00] <h1st0> rudelerius: not if its mounted somewhere else if you check the folders contain nothing
[06:00] <trogdor> h1st0: oh is it a separate user he has the share thing on?
[06:00] <rudelerius> h1st0 - I'll check; I believe they did the last time I looked though
[06:00] <h1st0> trogdor: no he's using fstab to mount a samba share to his users home so root owns the mountpoint
[06:00] <malv1> i use kde and my gtk fonts look ugly and not properly anti-aliased
[06:00] <Tensoma-Halo3> can someone help with GRUB error 17?
[06:00] <h1st0> rudelerius: if they contain files then it isn't getting mounted to the other folder
[06:00] <malv1> is there a fix?
[06:00] <DoYouKnow> riotkittie, just type "ifconfig <your_interface> off", "ifconfig <your_interface> on"
[06:01] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: when did it start happening?
[06:01] <DoYouKnow> then "iwconfig essid dfkjdkdjfkjdf"
[06:01] <nickren> how do i resize partitions
[06:01] <trogdor> h1st0: isn't that kinda bad to have root running network daemons?...
[06:01] <DoYouKnow> "iwconfig essid <your_ssid>
[06:01] <DoYouKnow> "
[06:01] <DoYouKnow> oh whoops
[06:01] <DoYouKnow> insert your interface name before essid
[06:01] <rudelerius> h1st0 - I believe I can access the shared folders from either mount point
[06:01] <h1st0> trogdor: its just the way he set up fstab
[06:01] <DoYouKnow> do this under sudo bash
[06:01] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: after installing Vista and rpairing GRUB
[06:02] <Tensoma-Halo3> and I uninstalled VIsta, but it stil don't work :(
[06:02] <h1st0> rudelerius: well ls /home/rudelerius/mountpoint  and see if there are any files in there.
[06:02] <riotkittie> DoYouKnow: oh no, it's not that. i can connect and everything, and its just smashing, save for the fact that my connection dies and i have to reboot to bring it back up
[06:02] <h1st0> rudelerius: or you can just type in mount in terminal to see your current mounts.
[06:02] <DoYouKnow> riotkittie, sometimes broadcom gets set in the wrong mode
[06:02] <DoYouKnow> so you have to tinker with the settings
[06:02] <alcaponage> Can anyone help me install flash on ubuntu?
[06:02] <rudelerius> h1st0 - there are
[06:02] <DoYouKnow> to get it reset
[06:02] <riotkittie> DoYouKnow: I dont have a bcom :P
[06:02] <h1st0> rudelerius: the folder in yoru home directory is just a place holder for the mount it shouldn't contain any data once the mount has been removed
[06:02] <DoYouKnow> oh, it's not a broadcom?
[06:02] <h1st0> rudelerius: then the mount isn't right
[06:02] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: XP can read the partion
[06:02] <DoYouKnow> I thought we were talking about the broadcom
[06:02] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: have you ever been able to boot ubuntu?
[06:02] <riotkittie> nope. i have an ralink.
[06:03] <rudelerius> h1st0 - I haven't umount'ed yet
[06:03] <Pelo> later folks
[06:03] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: yes
[06:03] <h1st0> rudelerius: well once you unmount it and change the mount point those folders will be blank then you can safely delete them.
[06:03] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: So this just started all of the sudden?
[06:03] <Tensoma-Halo3> yes
[06:03] <Tensoma-Halo3> sinceinstaling Vista on a 25GB partion
[06:04] <jpastore> I'm trying to run azureus and it's complaining about not having swt-gtk-3346 I can't figure out which package I need to install to satisfy this
[06:04] <DoYouKnow> riotkittie, well, I have a broadcom so I had to keep messing with different things. initially I think I had to reload the module a few times to get it working but now just tinkering with the commands iwconfig and ifconfig seem to do it
[06:04] <mindrape> !flash | alcaponage
[06:04] <ubotu> alcaponage: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:04] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: ahh vista may have borked the mbr
[06:04] <h1st0> !grub Tensoma-Halo3
[06:04] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: I repaier it
[06:04] <mindrape> bork bork bork
[06:04] <frostburn> jpastore, i recommend installing the sun jre, and getting azureus from sourceforge
[06:04] <h1st0> !grub > Tensoma-Halo3
[06:04] <riotkittie> DoYouKnow: I dont have such luck :P
[06:05] <Tensoma-Halo3> I have repaired it
[06:05] <MasterShrek> jpastore, i recommend a different client :)
[06:05] <jpastore> MasterShrek, what client do you recommend?
[06:05] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: GRUB is fine, I get error 17. it has nothing to to with a bad GRUB
[06:05] <h1st0> !worksforme > w4ett
[06:05] <MasterShrek> jpastore, ktorrent
[06:06] <jpastore> hmm...let me give it a shot
[06:06] <joshuajoshua> my itunes.db became corrupted. The files are on there, but don't show up in amarok/rhythm box or on my ipod screen. Is there anyway to rewrite the database in ubuntu?
[06:06] <mindrape> joshuajoshua - ask in #gtkpod
[06:06] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: actually it does
[06:06] <kitche> joshuajoshua: not really and if it'sa  new gen ipod there is no way until programs get up to date on the new hash feature
[06:06] <nocta> is the ubuntu lamp server fairly easy to put a gui on? i know i'm defeating the whole point by putting a gui on
[06:06] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: I repaired it, a few times
[06:07] <mindrape> nocta - you want a gui to start and stop mysql/apache?
[06:07] <Tensoma-Halo3> tried to boot, shut down, botted again
[06:07] <lerio> guys how can i install genius color vivid 3xe in my feisty where can i find the firmware
[06:07] <kitche> nocta: sudo apt-get install {k|u|x}buntu-desktop :)
[06:07] <nickren> how do i resize a partition
[06:07] <joshuajoshua> kitche, 5th gen. It just became corrupted. I've used it with linux since dapper, and this is the first time i've had this problem.
[06:07] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: Are you able to boot any of the OS's ont he grub menu or does it come up before the menu?
[06:07] <mindrape> nickren - fdisk.. its destructive though.
[06:07] <MasterShrek> nocta, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:07] <nocta> mindrape, i am coming from a 2k server to a ubuntu lamp server
[06:07] <h1st0> nickren: What type of partition?
[06:07] <MasterShrek> nocta, thats for gnome, use kubuntu for kde or xubuntu for xfce
[06:07] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: I'm on XP THROUGH GRUB
[06:07] <usr13> nickren: Use qparted or gparted
[06:08] <nocta> i just need a small gui something that won't use too much processing power but still be usable/bareable
[06:08] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: So when do you get the error?
[06:08] <mindrape> nocta - well... sudo apt-get install php mysql apache will get you a LAMP environment... you can then use whatever editor you want and save your files in /var/www/html/
[06:08] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: its probably just an issue with a pointer can you pastebin your menu.1st
[06:08] <Tensoma-Halo3> when I try to boot Linux
[06:08] <usr13> nickren: But be careful, you might loose data.
[06:08] <nickren> well i wanting to resize the partition on so i can do have both xp and ubuntu running
[06:08] <MasterShrek> nocta, i suggest fluxbox
[06:08] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: and the output of fdisk -l
[06:08] <nocta> MasterShrek, why for?
[06:08] <h1st0> nickren: Are you trying to resize an xp partition?
[06:09] <nickren> no ext3
[06:09] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: and just HOW am Igonna get tht when I an't get into Linux?
[06:09] <nickren> well basically ubuntu
[06:09] <h1st0> nickren: ah well use gparted then.
[06:09] <ccxxpro> anyone can help me to install the pci wireless card
[06:09] <usr13> nickren: You'll have to put XP on first half.
[06:09] <MasterShrek> for a gui environment, i run it on my server, it runs awesome, can run all gnome and kde apps, but its very basic so it doesnt take much power to run
[06:09] <scguy318> Tensoma-Halo3: the Terminal
[06:09] <scguy318> !pastebin | Tensoma-Halo3
[06:09] <ubotu> Tensoma-Halo3: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:09] <h1st0> nickren: I recomend booting to the live cd unmounting the drive and resizing it.  There is also a gparted live cd availible for just this purpose
[06:09] <usr13> ccxxpro: Sure, what's your problem?
[06:09] <Tensoma-Halo3> scguy318: I cannot boot Ubuntu
[06:09] <nocta> MasterShrek, okies
[06:09] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: well then how did you try to repair grub?
[06:10] <scguy318> Tensoma-Halo3: in that case, have you tried the Super GRUB CD?
[06:10] <rudelerius> Anyone have any suggestions of what to do if umount reports that it seems //ubuntu/share is mounted multiple times?  Should I use the -f switch to force it to unmount both instances then let fstab remount in the correct mount point?
[06:10] <jpastore> MasterShrek, that seems to be getting a lot further along than I did with azureus, any reason why the download would have stalled?
[06:10] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: super GRUB disc
[06:10] <niru> Hi
[06:10] <nocta> am i right with assuming i can use bauhamut with ubuntu?
[06:10] <ccxxpro> i use D-Link PCI DWL-G520 version C2
[06:10] <nickren> wow thanks, can i do this without disturbing the ubuntu i running right now and then install xp
[06:10] <mindrape> hi niru
[06:10] <MasterShrek> jpastore, just normal torrent behavior i guess
[06:10] <niru> I have got a sony PCG-4LBP laptop of 11.1'' and 1366x768 resolution
[06:10] <niru> it does not work with projector
[06:10] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: well boot to a linux live cd or install ext3 filesystem support in xp and get the /boot/grub/menu.1st file
[06:10] <niru> what could be the reason
[06:10] <MasterShrek> 1366x768?!
[06:10] <ccxxpro> i have just plug it in and there is no signal
[06:10] <Tensoma-Halo3> scguy318 [21:10:06]  Tensoma-Halo3 : h1st0: super GRUB disc
[06:11] <mindrape> !projector
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about projector - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <ccxxpro> I use the Network Manager
[06:11] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: I can do that, sec
[06:11] <niru> MasterShrek, yes
[06:11] <niru> mindrape, ?
[06:11] <rudelerius> h1st0 - Have any suggestions of what to do if umount reports that it seems //ubuntu/share is mounted multiple times?  Should I use the -f switch to force it to unmount both instances then let fstab remount in the correct mount point?
[06:11] <ccxxpro> the wireless card can recognise the network but there is no signal
[06:11] <jpastore> MasterShrek, alright thanks I'll try other more popular torrents to see if it works...do I need to enable ports on the firewall by chance?
[06:11] <scguy318> rudelerius: sudo umount
[06:11] <MasterShrek> jpastore, i dont think so
[06:11] <scguy318> rudelerius: do that twice, then remount once
[06:11] <h1st0> rudelerius: umount each of them.
[06:11] <julz> hi, anyone who can help get a usb pci card running? its supported but ubuntu won't recognise it...
[06:12] <scguy318> rudelerius: only root can more than once
[06:12] <h1st0> rudelerius: then if you fixed your fstab you can just sudo mount -a  to remount everything
[06:12] <usr13> ccxxpro: If it "recognizes" the network, then there must be a signal.
[06:12] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: ok, open
[06:12] <rudelerius> scguy318 - with no options?  I did umount both of them individually, and it gave me the error twice
[06:12] <niru> any body
[06:12] <h1st0> ccxxpro: is it a broadcom card?
[06:12] <niru> can help me?
[06:12] <indraveni> hi all
[06:12] <h1st0> ccxxpro: lspci | grep Ethernet
[06:13] <ccxxpro> nope . it's ralink
[06:13] <rudelerius> scguy318 - fstab is correct; only problem is unmounting the duplicates that are currently mounted.
[06:13] <h1st0> !ask > niru
[06:13] <scguy318> rudelerius: sudo umount ...
[06:13] <usr13> ccxxpro;   is it acquiring essid?
[06:13] <scguy318> rudelerius: thats it :)
[06:13] <scguy318> rudelerius: you would just do it twice
[06:13] <valon> Alright, I have a question about amarok and mp3's, where or what is the file I need to add other music file support to amarok?
[06:13] <h1st0> niru: have you tried searching the forums.  Sry didn't see your question above.
[06:13] <h1st0> niru: I would search ubuntuforums.org for you laptop model see if anyone has had your problem.
[06:13] <ccxxpro> my wireless network is WEP
[06:13] <MasterShrek> ccxxpro, what kind of card is it?
[06:13] <h1st0> ccxxpro: What type of network card do you have?
[06:14] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: now what?
[06:14] <niru> h1st0, tahnk you
[06:14] <riotkittie> ccxxpro: i'd go to http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.net [i think it's .net, but i may be off]  and at the very least, download RutilT.  you will need to sudo apt-get install build-essential to compile it
[06:14] <h1st0> !paste | Tensoma-Halo3
[06:14] <ubotu> Tensoma-Halo3: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:14] <trogdor> ccxxpro: I just use 64 bit wep and some authentication stuff
[06:14] <usr13> ccxxpro: Then you will first have to code in the wep key into the client device.
[06:14] <julz> hi, can someone help with a pci card please?
[06:14] <usr13> ccxxpro: 64 or 128bit?
[06:14] <ccxxpro> 64 bit
[06:14] <riotkittie> ralink chipsets and network manager in feisty, at least, don't seem to get along.
[06:14] <h1st0> julz: see if its showing up in dmesg or lspci
[06:14] <cafuego> They're both trivially easy to crack, much of a muchness.
[06:15] <rudelerius> scguy318 - are you saying to just use the umount command without specifying which file system to use, etc? Or are you suggesting that I ummount each mount point individually, because I did do that and I just got the message that it appears the share is mounted twice- each time I ran the command for each mount point...???
[06:15] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39424/
[06:15] <nocta> why is it that when i use the ubuntu live cd
[06:15] <nocta> it won't let me see my 40 gig drive
[06:15] <nocta> it says i don't have access to it
[06:15] <h1st0> rudelerius: umount /path/to/device ex: umount /dev/hda1
[06:15] <rudelerius> scguy318 - am I being dense?? :)
[06:15] <ccxxpro> Do i need to install the driver for the wireless card ?
[06:15] <nocta> also it won't mount it when i want to start ubuntu from the live cd
[06:15] <riotkittie> nocta: is it an NTFS drive?
[06:15] <scguy318> rudelerius: just umount the mount points that are mounted twice :)
[06:15] <nocta> yes
[06:15] <scguy318> rudelerius: the share that is mentioned in the error I guess
[06:15] <usr13> ccxxpro: iwconfig eth0 key ##########
[06:16] <Tensoma-Halo3> nocta: you could use ntfs-3g to read/write to it
[06:16] <usr13> ccxxpro: or  iwconfig eth1 key ##########
[06:16] <julz> h1st0: it doesnt come up, at least not that i can see...
[06:16] <usr13> as the case may be
[06:16] <nocta> so i'd have to change the file system?
[06:16] <nocta> wouldn't that lose dt
[06:16] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: so ubuntu is on second partition of primary master?
[06:16] <rudelerius> h1st0 - I have tried, but it appears to fail- stating that the share appears to be mounted more than once
[06:16] <nocta> data*
[06:16] <riotkittie> in that case sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/[partition here]  /path/to/mountpoint
[06:16] <h1st0> rudelerius: hrm... well try the -f I guess
[06:16] <Tensoma-Halo3> nocta: no
[06:17] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: yes, I elieve so
[06:17] <ccxxpro> lo        no wireless extensions.
[06:17] <ccxxpro> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[06:17] <ccxxpro> ra0       RT61 Wireless  ESSID:""  Nickname:""
[06:17] <ccxxpro>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Bit Rate=54 Mb/s
[06:17] <ccxxpro>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[06:17] <ccxxpro>           Link Quality=63/100  Signal level:-68 dBm  Noise level:-79 dBm
[06:17] <rudelerius> scguy318 - I have tried umounting both mount points; nothing happens but the message that there are dups
[06:17] <ccxxpro>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[06:17] <ccxxpro>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[06:17] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: can you open fdisk and make sure?
[06:17] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: might be the 3rd
[06:17] <riotkittie> nocta: no. ntfs-3g's no longer beta, so you should be good.
[06:17] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: well if / is the third thats the problem
[06:17] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: how am I suposed to open Fdisc?
[06:17] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: are you in windows?
[06:17] <usr13> ccxxpro: Dont flood:  iwconfig  <will tell you the name>
[06:17] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: yes
[06:17] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: opena  command prompt and type in fdisk
[06:17] <Tensoma-Halo3> I'm on that 0,0 partion atm
[06:18] <Tensoma-Halo3> lol
[06:18] <Tensoma-Halo3> k
[06:18] <ccxxpro> that's the iwconfig command show
[06:18] <h1st0> !paste | ccxxpro
[06:18] <ubotu> ccxxpro: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:18] <usr13> ccxxpro: If it's not a fully supported card, you will have to load drivers first.
[06:18] <Tensoma-Halo3> C:\Documents and Settings\DSMaster>fdisk
[06:18] <Tensoma-Halo3> 'fdisk' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
[06:18] <Tensoma-Halo3> operable program or batch file.
[06:19] <usr13> ccxxpro: Using encription on a card that's not fully supported may be a chore.
[06:19] <riotkittie> NetworkManager and ralink chipsets do not play nice together, in feisty, at least.
[06:19] <MoNsTeR> Tensoma-Halo3, you have xbox live?
[06:19] <ccxxpro> so , what should i do now ?
[06:19] <usr13> ccxxpro: You should acquire fully supported wifi device if you want to use encryption.
[06:19] <Tensoma-Halo3> MoNsTeR: is that relavent somehow?
[06:19] <MoNsTeR> Tensoma-Halo3, halo 3 duh
[06:20] <Tensoma-Halo3> well, not really
[06:20] <riotkittie> ccxxpro: or you could use wpa_supplicant. but again, rt2x00.serialmonkey.net  ... give that a look
[06:20] <Tensoma-Halo3> I have an acct on my brother's 360
[06:20] <ccxxpro> so i need to use the wpa_supplicant
[06:20] <riotkittie> ccxxpro: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com , rather
[06:20] <h1st0> !wpa > ccxxpro
[06:20] <usr13> ccxxpro: and switch from wep to wpa (on your router)
[06:21] <usr13> ccxxpro: and the rest of your network.
[06:21] <riotkittie> ralink's are fully supported. the drivers have been GPL'ed, yadda yadda yadda
[06:21] <Kousotu> h1st0: ideas?
[06:21] <h1st0> Kousotu: ?
[06:21] <usr13> riotkittie: Oh, good.  Thanks for the inof.
[06:21] <alcaponage> Can anyone help me install flash in ubuntu feisty?
[06:21] <Kousotu> [21:18:55]  Tensoma-Halo3 : C:\Documents and Settings\DSMaster>fdisk
[06:21] <Kousotu> [21:18:55]  Tensoma-Halo3 : 'fdisk' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
[06:21] <Kousotu> [21:18:55]  Tensoma-Halo3 : operable program or batch file.
[06:22] <Kousotu> h1st0: that ^
[06:22] <usr13> Kousotu: sudo
[06:22] <riotkittie> Network Manager and ralink chipsets, on the other hand, do not seem to play nicely in Feisty. I can't comment on previous versions, as I've only used my ralink on gutsy and feisty
[06:22] <h1st0> Kousotu: he doesn't have fdisk installed its on the windows xp cd though.  I would just boot to the ubuntu live cd and use fdisk there and make sure his parts are in the right place.
[06:22] <h1st0> Kousotu: find otu where / is and chnage menu.1st accordingly
[06:22] <Kousotu> usr13: sudo in WINDOWS?
[06:22] <riotkittie> alcaponage: open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:23] <Kousotu> h1st0: it's open
[06:23] <Kousotu> h1st0: change what?
[06:23] <h1st0> Kousotu: where is the / partition?
[06:23] <mactimes> Hello.  I was wondering if someone could help me with a NVidia restricted driver + GDM problem.
[06:23] <usr13> Kousotu: Oh, you are using windows?  Sorry.  What was your question / problem?
[06:23] <h1st0> usr13: thats all he can boot right now.
[06:23] <B00daW> Yeah, I'm an idiot and can't seem to get the userlist to display on a fresh Ubuntu install.  hlep hlep!1
[06:23] <z> is there some kind of gnome program equivalent to the stickynotes program in windows... so that I can leave myself very visible reminders on the desktop
[06:24] <Kousotu> I'm Trying NOT TO HAVE TO reinstall Ubuntu as well..
[06:24] <B00daW> xubuntu 'feisty fucker'
[06:24] <ccxxpro> using the wpa is the only way in my case
[06:24] <h1st0> Kousotu: You shoulnd't have to
[06:24] <rudelerius> h1st0 and scguy318 - I've tried umount again and I get this message now: "umount: /mnt/share: device is busy; umount: /home/jon: device is busy; Cannot create link /etc/mtab~; Perhaps there is a stale lock file?" I am at a complete loss of where to go with this information...
[06:24] <h1st0> !ohmy | B00daW
[06:24] <ubotu> B00daW: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:24] <D4N`> hello
[06:24] <B00daW> ah, sorry.
[06:24] <mikeo1> is there a way to jail everything (apache, bind, mysql) on a server so if one thing goes down the others will stay up, and nothing will bring down the system
[06:24] <h1st0> rudelerius: use sudo
[06:24] <Mriluvterri> um did it work
[06:24] <usr13> Tell Kousotu to boot a kernel from a CD or floppy and chroot to Linux's root partition
[06:24] <Kousotu> h1st0: exatly..
[06:25] <rudelerius> h1st0 - I definitely used sudo
[06:25] <Kousotu> usr13: and how am I to do that?
[06:25] <h1st0> Kousotu: exactly what?  You need to find out what partition your /root is on?  You said it may be the third well that would be hd0,2 instead of hd0,1
[06:25] <B00daW> userlist isn't under view...
[06:25] <h1st0> rudelerius: hrm...
[06:25] <rudelerius> h1st0 - I agree
[06:26] <Kousotu> h1st0: I have 2 partions, and a deleted partion that WAS vista
[06:26] <h1st0> rudelerius: Have you been changing any of the files?  If not Try just rebooting.
[06:26] <niru> h1st0, any idea
[06:26] <h1st0> Kousotu: what order did you install things?
[06:26] <Kousotu> it might still have 0,2 attached to it
[06:26] <h1st0> Kousotu: ex: Xp, then ubuntu , then vista?
[06:26] <alcaponage> Can anyone help me w/ installing flash?
[06:26] <Kousotu> XP, ubuntu, vista
[06:26] <phoo_> hey! when i use audacity, i dont have the option to open alsa as sound playback device
[06:26] <B00daW> hlep hlep, plz kind pepples
[06:26] <Kousotu> deleted vista, etc
[06:27] <B00daW> ubuntu isn't as good as slack on this 200mhz. :(
[06:27] <Kousotu> I am going to be uninstalling XP to reinstall it due ot issues as well
[06:27] <rudelerius> h1st0: I did change the /etc/mtab file.  I copied a backup, then replaced the file I changed with the original...I did it before I realized it was a dumb thing to do without knowing anything about its purpose... :(
[06:27] <alcaponage> "Unpackage the file. A directory called installflashplayerlinux will be created." "In terminal, navigate to this directory..."
[06:27] <alcaponage> How do i navigate to that directory?
[06:27] <frijolie> does anyone know how to fix a taskbar that autohides when "autohide" has been unchecked?
[06:27] <h1st0> Kousotu: well it should be on hd0,1 then unless you have multiple drives then who knows.  Why can't you just boot the ubuntu install cd?
[06:28] <riotkittie> lol. ubuntu on a 200mhz. <shakes head> that's gotta hurt.
[06:28] <Kousotu> h1st0: I can, but that does nothing
[06:28] <h1st0> rudelerius: yeah you shoulnd't have to mess with mtab just fstab
[06:28] <B00daW> pimentinha: faca o favor me ajuda pq naum posso de ver meu userlist em xchat!
[06:28] <mactimes> I used to run Ubuntu 7.04 with NVidia restricted driver very well, but since I reinstalled the system (still running Ubuntu 7.04) and enabled NVidia restricted driver again, GDM won't show up.  By checking the keyboard response time, I can see that the system gets slow.  The only thing I changed was the monitor (was a SyncMaster 3Ne, now it is a SuncMaster 794v) and current resolution (previously 1024x768, now 1280x1024).  Could someone, please
[06:28] <mactimes> , help?
[06:28] <B00daW> and people are ignoring me. :(
[06:28] <riotkittie> B00daW: user list in xchat?? is that what youre looking for?
[06:28] <usr13> Kousotu: http://www.toms.net/rb/  or  just boot a kernel on a live cd or install CD and use the chroot command and then you can install grub to MBR
[06:28] <h1st0> Kousotu: it will atleast give you access to linux so you can use fdisk and see the partitions
[06:28] <h1st0> Kousotu: then you can also repair grub
[06:28] <rudelerius> h1st0 - I'm very dumb. I know.  Any suggestions?
[06:29] <cafuego> B00daW: Don't run Gnome on a 200MHz box.
[06:29] <B00daW> yes, riotkittie... :(
[06:29] <h1st0> rudelerius: reboot
[06:29] <B00daW> cafuego:  xubuntu, sir.
[06:29] <B00daW> i only run xfce.
[06:29] <B00daW> gnome is poopoo.
[06:29] <riotkittie> B00daW: open a term and sudo apt-get install xchat << what you are using now is xchat-gnome
[06:29] <B00daW> xchat-common
[06:29] <B00daW> I did sudo apt-get install xchat
[06:29] <dbkim> hi all,
[06:29] <rudelerius> h1st0: I'll do it and see what happens.  Thanks.  In fact, I'm going to call it a night; work and school tomorrow.  Will play more after all that fun stuff is over.  Thanks again.
[06:30] <dbkim> does anyone know how the resolution of login screen can be changed?
[06:30] <riotkittie> B00daW: if its actually xchat, the user list should be there <shrug>
[06:30] <h1st0> rudelerius: after reboot if you've got fstab right it should mount properly then the folders in yoru home should be blank and you can delete them.
[06:30] <B00daW> it's not, riotkiddie...  and i've used xchat before....
[06:30] <h1st0> dbkim: it should be the same res as your session
[06:31] <Kousotu> h1st0: but isn't it gonna just break again after I reinstall XP?
[06:31] <B00daW> if i can't find the userlist here, could you help me locate the .bitchxrc file for bitchx?
[06:31] <h1st0> Kousotu: yes
[06:31] <riotkittie> perhaps its in ~ somewhere?  ~/.bitchx
[06:31] <B00daW> /etc/bitchx ?
[06:31] <dbkim> h1st0 somehow they have different resolution
[06:31] <rudelerius> h1st0: should is such a loaded word!  :)  I've already tried relogging several times, but not reboot.  I'm going to keep my fingers crossed and hope it works as planned.  Have a good night.
[06:31] <h1st0> Kousotu: I though you had xp installed
[06:31] <Kousotu> h1st0: I do, but I am having problems with it as well...
[06:31] <dbkim> h1st0, I think I made a mistake when I make a resolution during installation
[06:32] <B00daW> i did a locate, but does locate find hidden files too?
[06:32] <h1st0> Kousotu: Well you need to install xp then follow the message from ubotu for repairing grub
[06:32] <h1st0> !grub > Kousotu
[06:32] <Kousotu> quit sending that..
[06:32] <h1st0> Kousotu: the lost grub after installing windows part.
[06:32] <riotkittie> B00daW: yes
[06:32] <niru> h1st0, r u there
[06:32] <Kousotu> I HAVE the SGcd
[06:32] <dbkim> h1st0, therefore, login screen has extremely high resolution that exceeds my LCD whereas the session window has exact resolution for the displayer
[06:32] <h1st0> niru: yes
[06:32] <romek> http://www.adbux-cash.tk
[06:33] <h1st0> dbkim: thats wierd did you change the login screen?
[06:33] <phoo_> hey! when i use audacity, i dont have the option to open alsa as sound playback device, but the input does work well!
[06:33] <niru> h1st0, did you get any solution
[06:33] <B00daW> this recent version of xubuntu has a lot of broken things for old laptops. :(
[06:33] <h1st0> niru: for?
[06:33] <dbkim> h1st0, you mean theme of the login screen?
[06:33] <B00daW> ndiswrapper is broken, alsa is broken, xchat is broken. :(
[06:33] <Davy_Jones> are there ftp servers i can download ubuntu from?
[06:33] <h1st0> dbkim: yes
[06:33] <B00daW> that's really sad.
[06:33] <z> in response to my own question: gnome has programs but they aren't exactly the same
[06:33] <niru> h1st0, laptop and projector
[06:33] <dbkim> h1st0, I tried all the themes but resolution is fixed
[06:33] <B00daW> i'm disappointed in ubuntu.
[06:34] <Innomen> riotkittie: guess what, error loading operating system, supergrub cannot make ubuntu boot under any of the options in boot, or gnu linux lol, not asking for help just shareing
[06:34] <dbkim> I'm excited by ubuntu =)
[06:34] <Innomen> windows boots fine, when tricked
[06:34] <usr13> B00daW: You are dissappointed in xbuntu - you mean?
[06:34] <B00daW> k...  i have another question.
[06:34] <h1st0> niru: did you try searching the forums foryour laptop model?  Also you may have to hit fn and a key to enable the external display on your laptop
[06:34] <B00daW> i can't run kde or gnome on 200mhz. :(
[06:34] <Kousotu> h1st0: wel, I'l ruturn after I reinstall XP, and HOPE for the best lol
[06:34] <riotkittie> Innomen: ugh, that sucks
[06:34] <niru> h1st0, I tried all but in vain
[06:34] <B00daW> k... this is a complicated question.
[06:34] <h1st0> B00daW: You shoulnd't run either on 200mhz system
[06:34] <Innomen> ubuntu conceptually is wonderful, its just young, in time it will be great
[06:35] <B00daW> i know.
[06:35] <clusty> how can i get acrobat reader as a package under feisty?
[06:35] <usr13> B00daW: 200mhz porcessor?  Yes, that is a bit underpowered.  Not for GUI.
[06:35] <mikeo1> run blackbox
[06:35] <mikeo1> or xfce
[06:35] <B00daW> that's why i'm using xubuntu.
[06:35] <dbkim> h1st0, seems you are too busy for answering all the questions ;)
[06:35] <alcaponage> Can anyone show me how to put customize images on top and the bottom of my cube?
[06:35] <frostburn> or fluxbox
[06:35] <alcaponage> My pictures aren't showing up
[06:35] <alcaponage> Just white
[06:35] <h1st0> Kousotu: just make sure it doesn't delete your ubuntu parittion
[06:35] <B00daW> usr13:  this same laptop worked fine on an old version of zenwalk with a custom compiled kernel.
[06:35] <Innomen> but for now i uninstall :/ thank you for your help riotkittie, i'll be back as soon as i can afford ot get drive enclosuers
[06:35] <h1st0> alcaponage: the option is skycaps and ask in #ubuntu-effects
[06:35] <B00daW> next question:  how do i make a deb of a kernel?
[06:36] <B00daW> i need to recompile this kernel.
[06:36] <Neitsabes> Hi
[06:36] <B00daW> that's the only way i'll get speed.
[06:36] <h1st0> B00daW: follow the master kernel thread in the forums
[06:36] <usr13>  B00daW:  you will need a very lean kernel and a light weight window manager.
[06:36] <B00daW> i've done it many times.
[06:36] <B00daW> i'm going to use xfce or fluxbox.
[06:36] <Neitsabes> I'm trying to find how does can change the default automount location (/media) to something else?
[06:37] <B00daW> or icewm
[06:37] <usr13> B00daW: These fat kernels most of us are running on these highpowered machines are not for a 200mhz processor
[06:37] <h1st0> B00daW: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158
[06:37] <h1st0> Neitsabes: edit /etc/fstab
[06:37] <B00daW> usr13:  i'm fully aware, monsignor
[06:37] <clusty> any1 know how to get acrobat reader as a ubuntu package?
[06:37] <B00daW> i need a firefox alternative too...
[06:37] <B00daW> does anybody know if there will be camino ports for windows and linux?
[06:38] <B00daW> camino is way better than firefox.
[06:38] <usr13> B00daW: lynx :)
[06:38] <h1st0> clusty: you should be able to read pdf's by default
[06:38] <Davy_Jones> !download
[06:38] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[06:38] <Ahadiel> B00daW, Epiphany D:
[06:38] <usr13> Fastes browser around.
[06:38] <h1st0> B00daW: dillo
[06:38] <B00daW> hrm...
[06:38] <B00daW> i'll keep those in mind.
[06:38] <B00daW> i've used epiphany before...
[06:38] <B00daW> on slack.
[06:38] <B00daW> i miss slack...
[06:39] <B00daW> i had everything on here on zenwalk...
[06:39] <h1st0> B00daW: you really should just use the server install cd and install a command line system.  I believe the alternate iso also has this option.
[06:39] <B00daW> but they deprecated ALL hardware for this laptop on the new version.
[06:39] <lucifer> omg
[06:39] <usr13> B00daW: I don't,  (I have one in the other room) (nice system)
[06:39] <B00daW> used the alt cd.
[06:39] <clusty> h1st0, with evince or some other crap
[06:39] <lucifer> im using irssi because i uninstalled gdm
[06:39] <lucifer> now x wont start
[06:39] <clusty> h1st0, was asking about adobe stuff
[06:39] <lucifer> because the script is stuck at gdm
[06:39] <MasterShrek> B00daW, tried slack 12.0?
[06:39] <h1st0> lucifer: sudo apt-get install gdm
[06:40] <B00daW> hlst0:  it's a laptop.  i want it for web-browsing, wardriving, and mp3 listening.
[06:40] <lucifer> i did
[06:40] <B00daW> i had it working great on zenwalk 2 years ago.
[06:40] <h1st0> B00daW: yeap then I would just use command line
[06:40] <lucifer> how do i stop the hung gui startup?
[06:40] <usr13> lucifer: did you install ubuntu or kbuntu or?
[06:40] <B00daW> i could even load gimp in 5 seconds.
[06:40] <lucifer> ubuntu, but using kde
[06:40] <h1st0> B00daW: or install xfce4 package and keep things minimal.  You can use links2 for graphical browsing kismet for war drivign and there are plenty of command line mp3 players.
[06:41] <usr13> lucifer: kdm is probably starting before gdm
[06:41] <lucifer> tried to go kde after not liking gnome
[06:41] <Kousotu> h1st0: let's asume it's corect, but it still won't bot, what should I do then?
[06:41] <h1st0> Kousotu: Well its obviously not correct if it won't boot.
[06:41] <lucifer> ill try installing kdm
[06:41] <B00daW> i wanna stick to xfce prolly.
[06:41] <h1st0> Kousotu: worst case you can boot to the linux cd and try to fsck the drive make sure it has no errors
[06:41] <MasterShrek> lucifer check the permissions of /etc/init.d/kdm and make sure its executable
[06:41] <h1st0> Kousotu: fsck -y /dev/hda
[06:42] <usr13> lucifer: chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm
[06:42] <usr13> lucifer: chmod -x /etc/init.d/kdm   correction
[06:42] <Kousotu> ok, I'll check hat after I fix my XP issues..
[06:43] <lucifer> im in a shell
[06:43] <lucifer> and a noob
[06:43] <h1st0> lucifer: anything in gui can be done in shell so don't worry.
[06:43] <vulcanius> we all started there
[06:43] <lucifer> i know that
[06:43] <lucifer> id rather be able to use shell all the time
[06:43] <usr13> lucifer: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/kdm
[06:43] <vulcanius> except me, because i'm like a god
[06:43] <lucifer> but i dont know my way around in the dark yet
[06:43] <nocta> ;o
[06:44] <Kousotu> h1st0: well, almost anything lol
[06:44] <nocta> if you put a gui on
[06:44] <nocta> can't you take it off?
[06:44] <nocta> i mean it just seems logical that you could
[06:45] <Neitsabes> h1st0, I can indeed modify the mounting point in /etc/fstab for say the cdrom, how about USB devices, there is no fstab entry for these after a fresh installation, yet they get mounted in /media automatically, how can I change that default location to something different?
[06:45] <lucifer> got it going, thanks for the moral support
[06:45] <MaxHR> Hello, is there any decent speech to text programs for linux?  (for dictation to do word processing)
[06:45] <lucifer> haha!
[06:45] <lucifer> stuck at loading the desktop!
[06:45] <Kousotu> ctrl + alt + ackspace
[06:46] <Kousotu> backspace*
[06:46] <h1st0> Neitsabes: hold up I think its in gconf let me double check
[06:46] <puma> anybody helps?
[06:46] <Neitsabes> ok, thanks :)
[06:46] <puma> SCIM disappeared.
[06:46] <CommonClone> anyone have any idea why my network will not work after I installed firestarter...and why after I rebooted the system hangs at the configuring network phase?
[06:46] <Kousotu> !ask | puma
[06:46] <ubotu> puma: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:46] <usr13> lucifer:  sudo chmod -x /etc/rc1.d/K01kdm
[06:47] <puma> hi, SCIM disappeared on topbar.
[06:47] <borovy3488> OK, my computer will not let me download torrents anymore. at all. can anyone help?
[06:48] <Mark7> Can anyone help me?
[06:48] <puma> but if I typed in terminal"SCIM", it appears again.
[06:48] <lucifer> usr13: thanks, that did it
[06:48] <CommonClone> anyone have any idea why my network will not work after I installed firestarter...and why after I rebooted the system hangs at the configuring network phase?
[06:48] <usr13> lucifer: Ok, let me know if it works.
[06:50] <CommonClone> I can only boot into recovery mode...please help
[06:50] <MasterShrek> CommonClone, is firestarter being run every time? change the permissions of /etc/init.d/firestarter and make it not bootable and see if that fixes teh problem
[06:50] <hunteke> hey, anyone know much about the sound system in the upcoming Heron?
[06:50] <usr13> CommonClone: Sure, what can we do for you?
[06:50] <borovy3488> OK, i think I might be switching back to windows soon because of all the damn problems I'm having. once again, something just stopped working. i cant download torrents at all i get an error that says urlopen error (111, 'Connection refused')
[06:50] <borovy3488> any ideas
[06:51] <hunteke> borovy3488: sounds network related
[06:51] <CommonClone> MasterShrek, I uninstalled firestarter after I noticed it shut my network down...now when I tried to reboot by computer's a brick...I can only boot into recovery
[06:51] <drew_> try a different torrent client? which one are you usinh
[06:51] <usr13> sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/firestarter
[06:51] <CommonClone> ^my
[06:51] <hunteke> borovy3488: are you at all command line savvy?
[06:51] <borovy3488> hunteke: how could it be though? my internet is working and so is everything else.
[06:52] <hunteke> borovy3488: sorry, I'm just joined
[06:52] <usr13> CommonClone: If you think firestarter is your problem, you can dissable it
[06:52] <usr13> CommonClone: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/firestarter
[06:52] <hunteke> borovy3488: what details have you said that I missed?
[06:52] <CommonClone> usr13, I uninstalled it
[06:52] <borovy3488> hunteke: I can do normal things with it, like navigate, change file names, etc.
[06:53] <borovy3488> hunteke: not too much i think that was the only things, it basically just stopped working after i messed around with port forwarding.
[06:53] <gunspoja> coi ro do
[06:53] <gunspoja> gday everyone
[06:53] <gunspoja> how is #ubuntu today?
[06:53] <borovy3488> now, after resetting all of those settings, it doesnt work at all.
[06:53] <hunteke> borovy3488: OK. bear with me, I'm not the most GUI oriented of people, can you open a terminal or command line?
[06:53] <usr13>  CommonClone have you deleted or uninstalled a kernel you were booting to?
[06:53] <borovy3488> hunteke: yes, sir.
[06:54] <h1st0> Neitsabes: I think its handled by hotplug but not sure how to change it.
[06:54] <borovy3488> hunteke: ubuntu has made me somewhat command line friendly just so you know
[06:54] <hunteke> borovy3488: you'd best back off with the sirs.  I'm but 23 and have no desire to be called sir until I'm at least a father. :-P  ...
[06:54] <borovy3488> hunteke: sorry, military here
[06:54] <Neitsabes> alright, thanks I'll try to digg a little more, having stuff automounted in /media conflicts with some mounted files from my env
[06:54] <hunteke> borovy3488: ok, so commandline: for giggles, 'ping www.google.com'
[06:55] <CommonClone> usr13, no, the kernel is still there in the grub menu...I had this same problem after I installed ndiswrapper to make my wireless work, but all I had to do was go into recovery and do depmod -ae and modprobe ndiswrapper and it booted right back up...I tried that this time and it doesnt work
[06:55] <gunspoja> borovy3488, lol, being in military means you spontaneously call everyone "sir"?
[06:55] <borovy3488> hunteke: wow, I keep getting different readings. which one do you want?
[06:55] <gregorovius> after resuming from a suspend my sata hard drive dissapears... anyone knows anything about this?
[06:56] <borovy3488> gunspoja: basically, yes. fresh out of boot.
[06:56] <goldenratio> i want to know some advantages of ubuntu
[06:56] <J-_> !offtopic
[06:56] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:56] <gunspoja> goldenratio, there are many
[06:56] <hunteke> just give me the first, say five response lines: they'll end in 'time=23.3 ms' or something
[06:56] <gunspoja> goldenratio, open source
[06:56] <hunteke> you might pm that to me
[06:56] <usr13>  CommonClone you might also try ldconfig
[06:56] <hunteke> borovy3488: so as to not flood the channel
[06:56] <therapy> goldenratio: so?
[06:56] <CommonClone> ok...
[06:57] <goldenratio> i love linux and i waiting to try ubuntu
[06:57] <therapy> goldenratio: freedom, fun,...
[06:57] <gunspoja> well you probably already know the advantages then
[06:57] <goldenratio> its downloading
[06:57] <borovy3488> hunteke, going to send in PM
[06:57] <CommonClone> usr13, trying ldconfig and rebooting now...hope this works
[06:57] <hunteke> borovy3488: I respect your job, and thanks for doing what I consientiously can't do
[06:57] <gunspoja> ubuntu is a linux distro, so if you like linux then you should like ubuntu
[06:57] <hunteke> borovy3488: hit "Ctrl+C" to quit the ping program
[06:58] <CommonClone> usr13, nope...boot hangs again
[06:58] <usr13> CommonClone: WHere does it  hang?
[06:58] <usr13> CommonClone: what is the last completed task?
[06:59] <usr13> or last few?
[06:59] <bruenig> gunspoja, not reallyt
[06:59] <CommonClone> on the line that says its configuring network devices or something like that
[06:59] <hunteke> borovy3488: great, what that basically means is that you have connectivity
[06:59] <hunteke> borovy3488: basic troubleshooting, and so far so good
[06:59] <gunspoja> bruenig, btw you probably know me better as shiester_miester ;)
[07:00] <CommonClone> usr13, the last thing I did was uninstall firestarter...I noticed my network was still not working, I tried to see if anything was haywire there, and it wasn't, so I rebooted and here I am
[07:00] <gunspoja> what did you mean, bruenig ?  what not really?
[07:00] <usr13> CommonClone: Well, sounds like it's booted up, it's already to the point of bringing up the network.  SO sounds like the kernel is booted.
[07:00] <hunteke> borovy3488: next step, open up your web browser.  I assume you're using Firefox?
[07:00] <gunspoja> ubuntu is not really a linux distro? :P
[07:00] <bruenig> gunspoja, liking linux doesn't mean you like all linux distributions
[07:00] <borovy3488> hunteke: you want my bittorrent output error?
[07:00] <hunteke> borovy3488: sure
[07:00] <gunspoja> well linux is the kernel; so he might just love the kernel but not the OSes
[07:00] <borovy3488> hunteke: yes, I'm using Firefox, what did you need me to do?
[07:00] <CommonClone> usr13, yes the kernel is loaded, it hangs on "Configuring Network Interfaces"
[07:00] <gunspoja> sorry i mean the *rest* of the OSes
[07:00] <borovy3488> hunteke: posting error in PM
[07:00] <bruenig> but he might only like some distros and not others like I would assume most people do
[07:01] <hunteke> borovy3488: just surf to any web page, make sure that you can in fact load a normal web page
[07:01] <mmmiiikkkeee> in gutsy... if i boot with my wifi card pluged in a get a kernel panic(see bug 123224).... it works with older kernels.... is there hope for this to be fixed by oct 18th??
[07:01] <gunspoja> probably
[07:01] <therapy> borovy3488: did you have a firefox update?
[07:01] <hunteke> next step is to give me the error
[07:01] <h1st0> !gutsy > mmmiiikkkeee
[07:01] <gunspoja> mmmiiikkkeee, there definitely is a hope for that.  the kernel guys work hard on wireless stuff and they fix the bugs as well as they can
[07:01] <gunspoja> wireless is a pretty big issue, afaik
[07:01] <hunteke> borovy3488: hmm, well, we've just confirmed that you /do/ have inet connectivity
[07:01] <borovy3488> hunteke: every webpage is working fine, error is posted in PM
[07:02] <hunteke> so that would imply that the error is on the other end of things
[07:02] <usr13> CommonClone: Might look at /etc/rcS.d/S40networking file and see if anything is out of order there?
[07:02] <hunteke> borovy3488: the tracker is refusing you, which is a setting on their end
[07:02] <borovy3488> hunteke: i know, isn't it weird?
[07:02] <hunteke> borovy3488: can you give me the link and I'll try to download
[07:02] <mmmiiikkkeee> i was just wondering since i knw the new kernel moved to a new wifi stack.... was wondering if my older card was being left behind?
[07:02] <akio> if i was to redo my init scripts is there an easy way to do it?
[07:02] <therapy> borovy3488: try to download with another web browser
[07:02] <gunspoja> mmmiiikkkeee, thats possible.  if you need to use it then you could boot from the old kernel until its fixed?
[07:03] <CommonClone> usr13, sorry for the noobness but what exactly would I be looking for?  and btw...I'm new to ubuntu, whats the cmd for a comand line editor?
[07:03] <borovy3488> hunteke: you might not like what I'm trying to download. It kind of contradicts my occupation...
[07:03] <usr13> CommonClone: Can you tell if the system is running at all.  Can you do something like Ctrl-Alt-F2 or F3 or F4 or... ?
[07:03] <hunteke> borovy3488: you'd be surprised what I do and don't like
[07:03] <mmmiiikkkeee> yea that what i am doing... but the old kernel does not work with web cam :(
[07:03] <usr13> CommonClone:  less
[07:03] <CommonClone> usr13, I can boot into recovery mode just fine and get a command line
[07:03] <borovy3488> therapy: what do you mean another browser? im using bittorrent
[07:03] <hunteke> borovy3488: I respect your job and what you do, but I do not like what our gov is making you do
[07:03] <bruenig> respect killers, odd
[07:03] <hunteke> borovy3488: and, I don't get offended easily.
[07:04] <patbam> is there a key command to open the application menu?
[07:04] <borovy3488> hunteke: ok, good. To tell the truth, I do not agree with what the government is doing as well, its just a job for me. I'm a Ron Paul supporter actually
[07:05] <borovy3488> hunteke, i'm working on that link, just a second
[07:05] <hunteke> borovy3488: iz cool
[07:05] <hunteke> borovy3488: hrm, don't much about ron paul, but saw a lot of discreet signs with his name while I was in New Orleans last week.
[07:05] <hunteke> will hafta look him up
[07:05] <notdarkyet_> whats the ubuntu server help channel
[07:06] <bruenig> start menu, what a stupid title
[07:06] <gunspoja> heh
[07:06] <gunspoja> what would you call it?
[07:06] <borovy3488> hunteke: he is an amazing politician, thats all I have to say. he is probably the only honest man with the job.
[07:06] <bruenig> well it obviously isn't the start menu because it doesn't say start on it like it does in windows
[07:06] <gunspoja> I'd just call it "menu" and leave it at that
[07:06] <hunteke> borovy3488: heh, that's saying something
[07:07] <extole> patbam: alt-F1
[07:07] <borovy3488> hunteke: yea, to tell the truth, I was surprised
[07:07] <bruenig> or I assume that is the reason they call it the start menu, if there is some other reason other than that label, then maybe it is applicable to the gnome menus as well
[07:07] <flacom> hi all... where is the users file ...?
[07:07] <CommonClone> usr13, what would I be looking for in that file?  I would post it somewhere for you but I can't get to a web browser on that machine
[07:07] <Frogzoo_> flacom: for what?
[07:07] <hunteke> flacom: need more context, what is the larger problem?
[07:08] <gunspoja> flacom, the users rc file?
[07:08] <hunteke> borovy3488: as regards "other browser" . . a browser is something to "browse" or view something else
[07:08] <flacom> the users... like flaco:andpasswordEncripted
[07:08] <hunteke> flacom: do you mean /etc/passwd?
[07:08] <notdarkyet> gunspoja how you do that
[07:08] <Frogzoo_> flacom: /etc/shadow
[07:08] <borovy3488> hunteke: link posted in PM
[07:08] <gunspoja> notdarkyet, I don't, it was a guess
[07:09] <hunteke> flacom: be careful if you'r asking about that, then it's likely that you're smart enough to be dangerous
[07:09] <notdarkyet> what do you mean guess
[07:09] <gunspoja> hence the question mark
[07:09] <open-gl> i download ntfs-3g now where can i find the program
[07:09] <hunteke> flacom: *smart is bad word: knowledgable enough to be dangerous.
[07:09] <flacom> Frogzoo_
[07:09] <flacom> Frogzoo_ thks
[07:09] <notdarkyet> nevermind
[07:09] <extole> Anyone know how to have the system not prompt for your password after resuming from a suspend? (It's for my MythTV box)
[07:09] <gunspoja> notdarkyet, http://www.dictionary.com/browse/guess
[07:09] <hunteke> borovy3488: so another web browser means another program to view the web.  bruenig, I don't have one on the top of my head
[07:09] <gunspoja> that's what i meant
[07:09] <Frogzoo_> extole: it's in gnome power options
[07:09] <usr13> CommonClone: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39427/
[07:10] <bruenig> ?
[07:10] <borovy3488> hunteke: Yea, I'm not sure why i would need a new browser.
[07:11] <hunteke> borovy3488: ah, that's the problem.  You've already downloaded the torrent file, that is the file that lets you download your actual content.  What's coming up is probably the gnome bittorrent download or azureus
[07:12] <CommonClone> usr13, I imagine I would be looking for something strange in the first part dealing with configuring network interfaces, huh?
[07:12] <hunteke> borovy3488: the problem is that I'll bet that torrent has been shut off since it was advertised
[07:12] <borovy3488> hunteke: huh?
[07:12] <hunteke> borovy3488: that is not your problem, in the sense that everything on your end is just fine
[07:12] <erichj> default bt client boo
[07:12] <erichj> sudo apt-get install deluge-torrent
[07:12] <hunteke> borovy3488: sorry, which are you 'huh'ing at?
[07:13] <borovy3488> hunteke: but it is also happening with all different torrents as wel
[07:13] <hunteke> are they all from the same source?
[07:13] <usr13> CommonClone: Yes, if you don't see any significant differences, it's probably ok.
[07:13] <borovy3488> yea...
[07:14] <usr13> CommonClone: And we may be barking up the wrong tree in the first place.
[07:14] <CommonClone> usr13, yeah it looks fine to me
[07:14] <hunteke> borovy3488: hrm, well, the cynic in me is thinking that since it's of the content that you suggest, that someone has taken it down or is refusing connections to download it.
[07:14] <CommonClone> like I said earlier, when I installed ndiswrapper and configured it, after the reboot this exact same thing happened, but I fixed it by doing depmod -ae and modprobe ndiswrapper
[07:14] <usr13> CommonClone: Not starting the network should not stop the system
[07:15] <hunteke> borovy3488:  The actual reason could be any number of problems, but I assure you that your setup is correct.  It's the other end of things that is not working.
[07:15] <borovy3488> hunteke: OK, could you suggest another torrent just to try and make sure its working?
[07:15] <hunteke> borovy3488:  the best suggestion is to search for another copy of what you want
[07:15] <hunteke> borovy3488: yes, another torrent
[07:15] <usr13> Can you boot it back in normal mode and see what it looks like again.  Tell me if  you get any response from the system.  e.g Ctrl-Alt-F1 or F2 or F3 etc....
[07:15] <hunteke> borovy3488: are you asking for a demonstration torrent?
[07:16] <borovy3488> hunteke: yep
[07:16] <CommonClone> usr13...just a sec...rebooting now...
[07:17] <usr13> CommonClone: It could be the tainted kernel (due to ndiswrapper loading wireless driver).
[07:17] <noob69> hello
[07:17] <hunteke> borovy3488: ah erm, it's been a while.  Let me see if I can dig one up on a site.  yep, torrentspy.com is still there, as is isohunt.com, it seems . . . searching.
[07:17] <Evanlec> quick question: how do i make a shortcut command? like for instance i wanted to run 'wine c:\blah blah' by typing 'bf2' into the cmd line
[07:17] <gunspoja> gday noob
[07:18] <riotkittie> Evanlec:  alias bf2='your command goes here'
[07:18] <Evanlec> thanks!
[07:18] <CommonClone> usr13, ok ctrl-alt-f1 sends me to a terminal that stuck, but the last line says kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot
[07:18] <riotkittie> you can add the alias to .bashrc  or .bash_aliases, if you've set the latter up
[07:18] <Evanlec> i thot it might have to do with "alias"
[07:18] <Frogzoo_> Evanlec: in ~/.bash_aliases   add alias bf2='...'
[07:18] <Evanlec> riotkittie, oh to make it persistent?
[07:18] <borovy3488> hunteke: I just tried another torrent and it did the exact same thing
[07:18] <riotkittie> Evanlec: yea
[07:19] <Evanlec> riotkittie, what if ive never messed with .bashrc or .bash_aliases before?
[07:19] <usr13> CommonClone: "kinit:  No resume image"  (did we spell that right?)
[07:19] <Evanlec> riotkittie, does it require some setup?
[07:19] <riotkittie> Evanlec: not really. .bashrc is pre-existing, and if you open it in your favourite editor and go down, you'll see where to add it
[07:20] <Evanlec> ah k
[07:20] <CommonClone> usr13, yes thats what is says...the cursor is blinking right underneath that, enter does nothing, and at the very bottom of the screen it says kernel alive
[07:20] <xImortal> @@
[07:20] <xImortal> \o
[07:21] <xImortal> o
[07:21] <xImortal> o/
[07:21] <xImortal> hi =D
[07:21] <hunteke> borovy3488: hrm, let's try a couple of things
[07:21] <hunteke> borovy3488: first, let's get you a better bittorrent downloader: Azureus
[07:21] <riotkittie> Evanlec: and if it doesnt work on the first try, type source .bashrc in a term and try again
[07:21] <hunteke> borovy3488: go to Applications->Add/Remove
[07:21] <usr13> CommonClone: What does it say on Ctrl-Alt-F8
[07:21] <hunteke> borovy3488: (bottom of menu)
[07:22] <borovy3488> hunteke: Ive tried ti
[07:22] <borovy3488> *it
[07:22] <hunteke> borovy3488: mmk, didn't like it?
[07:22] <noob69> can someone help me
[07:22] <riotkittie> azureus is irritating
[07:22] <riotkittie> noob69: ask your question, and lets see :P
[07:22] <CommonClone> usr14, sends me to a screen where the last line is stuck on * Configuring network interfaces
[07:22] <usr13> CommonClone: Is this a fully updated 7.04 system we're working with here?
[07:22] <CommonClone> *usr13, sorry
[07:22] <borovy3488> hunteke: I didn't really want to get into it, but I have an issue with azureus. it will not open. at all. it will show the window, then disappear.
[07:22] <borovy3488> hunteke: I might even still have it installed
[07:23] <xubean> Hey experts, i have problem with upgrading to gutsy beta, think anyone can help me?
[07:23] <hunteke> borovy3488: then run this test for me: at the commandline type 'java -version'
[07:23] <riotkittie> xubean: you may be better off asking in #ubuntu+1 , where gutsy support takes place ;P
[07:23] <noob69> well im reading a book on how to program in C++ and i want to try the example of the C++ programs
[07:23] <xubean> ok thanks, but can you tell me how i get there? sorry i'm a real noob
[07:23] <CommonClone> yes...freshly installed this afternoon...only thing significant I added was ati drivers, xgl, compiz, all that worked after a reboot...no problems...I tried to install firestarter and here I am
[07:23] <Kitsun> hunteke, borovy3488: when I installed azureus offical repos it never worked for me, but installing from Automatix2 worked
[07:24] <borovy3488> hunteke: output in PM
[07:24] <noob69> basically my problem is I know there is a C++ compiler on this computer but im not sure how to compile the C++ program i will be writing
[07:24] <xubean> nevermind riotkittie, i got in, thanks
[07:24] <hunteke> Kitsun: haven't had to use Automatix2 yet, but I'll bet what Automatix2 did that the official repos didn't do was to install Sun's version of Java, rather than gnu's gcj
[07:24] <riotkittie> !automatix
[07:24] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[07:25] <usr13> If you uninstalled firestarter, I don't know for sure if it left the script behind.  And that could be a problem.  But still not one that would cause the X server not to run.
[07:25] <hunteke> borovy3488: hrmm, alright, that means you're using Sun's Java, which is good
[07:25] <usr13> CommonClone: Can you do command   dmesg  ?
[07:25] <Oetmet> does anyone know a way to recover *data* from a formatted/corrupted linux partition?
[07:25] <pavi> hello, while installing sifybroadband client which requires openssl i am getting error "cannot open libssl.so.4 : no such file or directory " thought openssl is installed and is up to date. can some one help me on this.
[07:25] <hunteke> borovy3488: but still leaves us in the dark for azureus
[07:25] <CommonClone> usr13, ok, let me reboot into recovery...
[07:25] <fulat2k> hi folks, i just installed evolution with the exchange connector.  then configured an exchange mailbox by placing my username (in the form of domainname\id) and the OWA url.  it somehow says it encountered an unknown error.  but if i use the browser to connect, i'm able to login.  any ideas?
[07:25] <usr13> CommonClone: or  log in first
[07:25] <usr13> no
[07:25] <Kitsun> how can I set the ESSID of my wifi from a command line?
[07:26] <usr13> CommonClone: can you log into the system as is?
[07:26] <h1st0> Kitsun: iwconfig ethx essid blah
[07:26] <hunteke> can anyone else point us in the direction of another bittorrent client?  I haven't had to bittorrent in quite awhile so nothing's fresh
[07:26] <h1st0> hunteke: I use ktorrent
[07:26] <CommonClone> usr13, I can only boot into recovery
[07:26] <borovy3488> hunteke: i also have bittornado
[07:26] <h1st0> hunteke: but there is a default gnome bit torrent
[07:26] <nee_ya> hai
[07:26] <hunteke> borovy3488: I have to go to bed as I have to get up in 5 hours, but I'll give you a link that I think works in PM
[07:26] <pavi>  hello, while installing sifybroadband client which requires openssl i am getting error "cannot open libssl.so.4 : no such file or directory " though openssl is installed and is up to date. can some one help me on this.
[07:27] <hunteke> h1st0: cool, ktorrent may be an option, but we'll first try his other client
[07:27] <alfermp> hello
[07:27] <alfermp> do u know how can i sync treo 750 with ubuntu?
[07:27] <hunteke> h1st0: I'm also thinking we may have multiple issues going on
[07:27] <CommonClone> usr13, what would you be looking for in dmesg
[07:27] <hunteke> borovy3488: alright, can you start bittornado
[07:27] <hunteke> then manually give it the url
[07:27] <Oetmet> does anyone know a way to recover *data* from a formatted/corrupted linux partition?
[07:27] <nee_ya> bule smua bo'
[07:27] <usr13> CommonClone: Did you reboot to the recovery-mode?
[07:28] <CommonClone> usr13, yes
[07:28] <h1st0> alfermp: is it a palm device?
[07:28] <nee_ya> i dont understand all
[07:28] <pavi> hello, while installing sifybroadband client which requires openssl i am getting error "cannot open libssl.so.4 : no such file or directory " though openssl is installed and is up to date. can some one help me on this.
[07:28] <h1st0> !patience > pavi
[07:28] <borovy3488> hunteke: can we do this some other time? i need some sleep as well
[07:28] <pavi> k
[07:28] <usr13> CommonClone: never mind.  can't tell anything from dmesg now.
[07:28] <alfermp> yes it is
[07:28] <alfermp> Palm treo 750
[07:28] <h1st0> !palm > alfermp
[07:28] <usr13> CommonClone: see if you still have the firestarter script
[07:28] <alfermp> yeap
[07:29] <h1st0> alfermp: read the message from ubotu
[07:29] <hunteke> borovy3488: I /think/ that's a good torrent.  Actually haha I am tired, it's good but no one is uploading for you
[07:29] <CommonClone> usr13: how do I do that?
[07:29] <hunteke> borovy3488: stupid me.
[07:29] <hunteke> borovy3488:  yes, but I'll be out of touch for about 48 hours as I'm teaching a workshop during the day tomorrow, and then traveling back home
[07:29] <usr13> CommonClone: ls /etc/rcS.d/      and see if you see a firewall script.
[07:29] <alfermp> about the automatix2?
[07:30] <borovy3488> hunteke: its no big deal. hopefully i can figure it out soon. maybe see you back on here in 2 days.
[07:30] <hunteke> borovy3488: I urge you not to give on Linux/Ubuntu just yet.  I won't kid you, that if you're used to Windows, it'll be a little bit of a learning curve
[07:30] <Flannel> !automatix | alfermp
[07:30] <ubotu> alfermp: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[07:30] <borovy3488> hunteke: thanks for the help. im not giving up yet!
[07:30] <usr13> CommonClone: Actually, I dont think that's it in the first place though, because just not starting the network will not cause the system to fail to finish booting and starting X
[07:30] <CommonClone> usr13, would it be named something other than firewall
[07:31] <hunteke> borovy3488: and that Linux is still suffering some growing pains, but I think in the end you'll find linux just as capable if not more so for all that you need to do, modulo games (that's still a ways off, I think.)
[07:31] <hunteke> borovy3488:  good, I'm glad :-)
[07:31] <CommonClone> usr13, it did the same thing after I configured ndiswrapper
[07:31] <hunteke> alright, I'm off to bed.
[07:31] <usr13> CommonClone: not sure.  I don't  have firestarter
[07:31] <hunteke> good luck on your problem in the meantime
[07:31] <pavi> please help me
[07:31] <phoo_> hey! when i use audacity, i dont have the option to open alsa as sound playback device, but the input does work well!
[07:31] <CommonClone> system hung at the same spot
[07:32] <usr13> CommonClone: how many kernels do you have on the boot menu?  Only 2?
[07:32] <nee_ya> hey
[07:32] <xImortal> bye peoples =***
[07:32] <nee_ya> somebody help me
[07:32] <pavi> h1st0 thr ?
[07:32] <CommonClone> usr13, I have an older one also
[07:32] <usr13> CommonClone: try booting to that older one.
[07:32] <CommonClone> ok
[07:32] <Flannel> paradon_: you need to have libssl-dev instlled
[07:32] <h1st0> pavi: ?
[07:33] <pavi> yes
[07:33] <pavi> hello, while installing sifybroadband client which requires openssl i am getting error "cannot open libssl.so.4 : no such file or directory " though openssl is installed and is up to date. can some one help me on this.
[07:34] <CommonClone> usr13, oh how I love linux...it magically booted up now into the new kernel
[07:34] <CrypTom> hi all, I have several additional sources in sources.list. How can I easily see from within aptitude from which source a package is taken/upgraded?
[07:34] <usr13> CommonClone: Is your network up and running?
[07:34] <Flannel> CrypTom: apt-cache policy [package]  will show you.  No idea if you can do that from within aptitude.
[07:34] <CrypTom> Flannel: thanks
[07:35] <usr13> CommonClone: What kernel is it?  uname -a
[07:36] <CommonClone> usr13...yes sorry for the wait...network works now
[07:36] <usr13> CommonClone: What kernel?
[07:37] <CommonClone> usr13...2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP
[07:37] <mmaca> Hola
[07:38] <Andre_-_> hi
[07:38] <usr13> CommonClone: What processor(s) ?
[07:38] <fulat2k> hi folks, i just installed evolution with the exchange connector.  then configured an exchange mailbox by placing my username (in the form of domainname\id) and the OWA url.  it somehow says it encountered an unknown error.  but if i use the browser to connect, i'm able to login.  any ideas?
[07:38] <CommonClone> usr13, AMD64
[07:38] <pavi> hello, while installing sifybroadband client which requires openssl i am getting error "cannot open libssl.so.4 : no such file or directory " though openssl is installed and is up to date. can some one help me on this.
[07:38] <usr13> CommonClone: Dual core?
[07:38] <Oetmet> I want to know which files contains the text '<%' in all files which name starts with "#129" and when running the file command outputs 'ASCII'
[07:38] <Oetmet> any idea on how to do that?
[07:39] <usr13> CommonClone: Well, leave the system running for a while, like overnight.  Make sure it's fully updated
[07:39] <CommonClone> usr13, yes..its an AMD Turino64x2
[07:39] <Oetmet> something like... file \#129*
[07:39] <usr13> CommonClone: sudo apt-get update
[07:40] <Oetmet> I want to find the text "<%" in all the files generated by this command: file \#129* | grep 'ASCII'
[07:40] <CommonClone> usr13, yeah...thanks for the help...er...hand holding...or whatever...yeah I'm fully updated
[07:40] <Oetmet> all the files found
[07:40] <Oetmet> by that command
[07:41] <usr13> CommonClone: leave it running (linux does some things in the background that need to be done).
[07:42] <CommonClone> usr13, yeah, I know...I've been using SuSE on my desktop at home but I got tired of all the BS trying to get the hardware to work on my laptop(the one I was having trouble with) so I put ubuntu on it, and everything magically worked...except this whole network thing
[07:43] <usr13> CommonClone: Fully supported wifi stuff is better / easier to deal with.
[07:43] <Theory_> SuSE is pain.
[07:43] <frostburn> suse is better for servers than a desktop.  each distro is good for it's own niche
[07:44] <usr13> CommonClone: But this may never happen again.  I wish we could have found out what the problem really was.  Never did. it just fixed itself.
[07:44] <CommonClone> yeah, I know, I got a deal on this laptop since I'm in college(brand new inspiron 1721 2 gb ram 1.8 ghz dual core 17" screen less that $1G) but it came with broadcom wifi
[07:45] <Theory_> I had trouble getting online with ubuntu at first.  After using ndiswrapper it worked though.
[07:45] <Theory_> driver problems..
[07:46] <pavi> hello, while installing sifybroadband client which requires openssl i am getting error "cannot open libssl.so.4 : no such file or directory " though openssl is installed and is up to date. can some one help me on this.
[07:46] <pavi> hello, while installing sifybroadband client which requires openssl i am getting error "cannot open libssl.so.4 : no such file or directory " though openssl is installed and is up to date. can some one help me on this.
[07:47] <usr13> frostburn: It's difficult to really designate one distro is better, it often depends on the implementation and the various application configurations.  It's really the same to tell you the truth.  Package management is where the biggest differences lie.
[07:47] <frostburn> usr13, i agree
[07:48] <CommonClone> I really like Yast in SuSE...its great, and zypper works awesomely fast in 10.3RC1
[07:48] <Ahadiel> nn
[07:48] <frostburn> CommonClone, i used suse for my laptop as well, but i had to use ndiswraper for the networking.  some things never change
[07:48] <CommonClone> but ubuntu is a far superior product for a notbook or non power user
[07:49] <usr13>  frostburn;  Debian is nice for building servers, but to tell you the truth, my preference for server install is RH / Fedora.
[07:49] <LinuxJuggalo> i like RHEL for servers
[07:50] <LinuxJuggalo> debian is great as server too
[07:50] <frostburn> usr13, i know a few masochists that use gentoo for production servers
[07:50] <CommonClone> you know whats weird...when I had SuSE 10.2 on this laptop, compiz ran horribly slow...I thought my card sucked or something...but w/ ubuntu all the eyecandy stuff is way smoother
[07:50] <Theory_> CommonClone, Thats cause ubuntu rox0rz.
[07:50] <Theory_> ;)
[07:50] <usr13> frostburn: Slackware is good too for servers, I can probably do Slackware quicker.  But again, (as we've just demonstrated), it's all good.
[07:51] <usr13> I must say that I've yet to build a gentoo system.  I would probably like it alot too.  :)
[07:51] <frostburn> usr13, what are you waiting for?
[07:51] <CommonClone> and just setting up the eyecandy (XGL) is hell in SuSE...btw...I heard ATI is going to have support for AIGLX in the next driver...anyone know anything about that?
[07:52] <usr13> Will Rogers or someone said something about people that would come close to the way I feel about Linux;  Ive never met a Linux box I didn't like.
[07:52] <Oetmet> I want to find the text "<%" in all the files found by this command: file \#129* | grep 'ASCII'
[07:52] <Oetmet> any idea?
[07:52] <GNine> to apply changes made to xorg.conf i should restart X, correct?
[07:53] <jport> yup yup yup
[07:53] <jport> CTRL + ALT + Backspace
[07:53] <usr13>  frostburn  Yes you're right, I should try it... But I gave up long time ago on trying to "try 'em all".  There are just TOO many.
[07:53] <tyler_d> cifs server installation/configuration issue.... sudo echo "/cifs /etc/auto.cifs --timeout=60" >>/etc/auto.master..... returns permission denied?
[07:53] <GNine> well.. i did and the changes didnt quite get 'applied'... i'll try again
[07:53] <usr13> At one time. I wanted to do Linux from Scratch.
[07:54] <frostburn> usr13, well, just try gentoo because it's package management is completely orthogonal to any other previous
[07:54] <apastinen> Hi, does someone know what is the max size of the hard disk with kernel xen-image-2.6.19-4-generic-amd64?? or reason why i get following message in boot: attempt to access beyond end of device \n sda: rw=0, want=1250274690, limit=625142448
[07:55] <apastinen> .. i mean paritition, not hard disk..
[07:55] <GNine> i dont think am going to try anything else desktop wise.. except compiz
[07:55] <intr80> Anybody know the 'ununtu way' to get a configured, compiled unbuntu patched kernel?
[07:55] <usr13> frostburn: Sounds interesting.
[07:55] <intr80> There's got to be a simple way to do it
[07:56] <GNine> that depends on your definition of simple.
[07:56] <frostburn> apastinen, it depends on the file system.  not sure about the kernel message
[07:56] <usr13> I really like the simplicity and the minimalistic aspect of Slackware and it's [old/primitave]  installer.
[07:56] <intr80> GNine: I have quite a bit of expeirience with kernel development, but I've never had interest in starting with a distro specific kernel.
[07:56] <apastinen> my partition is LVM, the size was something like 500G..
[07:56] <intr80> GNine: Any ideas.
[07:57] <frostburn> intr80, i believe you can ownload the latest source and just copy the makefile, but make sure to run the command to upgrade it to the nwest version.  i haven't done it in a long time though
[07:57] <frostburn> copy the makefile from your previous kernel*
[07:57] <co_simle> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[07:57] <GNine> otherwise every patch for any kernel i have seen so far already comes compiled and installs with no problem .  if you are self compiling thats a different subject
[07:57] <intr80> frostburn: I'm certain they've patched the kernel, every distro does.
[07:57] <intr80> Isnt there an apt-get install linux-kernel-source or something?
[07:58] <GNine> indeed
[07:58] <BHSPitMonkey> My alt-tab functionality stopped working altogether.  X has been restarted, reboots have taken place, still dead.  Thoughts?
[07:58] <GNine> for example, to upgrade to gutsy from 7.04 just do    update-manager -d   from terminal
[07:58] <tyler_d> BHSPitMonkey: new keyboard maybe
[07:59] <BHSPitMonkey> tyler_d, thanks for the tip, but it has nothing to do with the hardware.
[07:59] <tyler_d> BHSPitMonkey: do you have compiz installed? or beryl? config in one of those could be an issue as well
[07:59] <frostburn> BHSPitMonkey, check system -> pref -> keybd shortcuts   andmake sure alt-tab is mapped, if you're using desktop effects make sure it's mapped under the copiz control panel
[07:59] <tyler_d> BHSPitMonkey: yw
[07:59] <BHSPitMonkey> tyler_d, I do, but not running.
[07:59] <usr13> intr80: Ubuntu is all about distro-specific.  It's all about automation and not doing things manually.  But I think that compiling and installing a custom kernel would be the same with any distro.
[08:00] <intr80> usr13: most distros are.  I'd like to tweek with my audio driver though, and It's a pain to start with a vanilla kernel and configure it.
[08:00] <GNine> desktop-effects is no longer an option for gutsy .. (side note)
[08:00] <intr80> I'd like to avoid that process if possible.
[08:00] <tyler_d> ubuntu------->vista mounting a sharepoint? anyone help.... config using cifs?
[08:00] <intr80> eh, apt-get install linux-source-2.6.20
[08:00] <px> hello people
[08:00] <intr80> Hello, px.
[08:00] <BHSPitMonkey> frostburn, I'm using metacity now (and usually);  should the compiz keybindings be interfering while it's not running?
[08:01] <px> can someone please help me how to send a fax? im using ubuntu dapper
[08:01] <frostburn> BHSPitMonkey, no, i don't believe so
[08:01] <px> you can pm me, tnx
[08:01] <GNine> (mouse reconfigured)
[08:01] <BHSPitMonkey> GNine, you say that as if they've been removed..
[08:01] <px> hi intr80!
[08:02] <intr80> px, I know nothing of faxes in linux. :)
[08:02] <mossby> Question : I just installed Gutsy beta from scratch but my wireless connection is not working...well it IS working, but it isnt --- i can see the networks in my area, i can even "connect" to them at 82% signal strength, but firefox only loads up error pages and i cant even talk to my router via <IP_ADDRESS> -- 30 mins ago i was in fiesty working fine :)
[08:02] <tyler_d> px: I have tried with no success.... are you trying that with a winmodem? let me know how you make out
[08:02] <px> intr80, oh i see
[08:03] <usr13> mossby> are you picking up dns server IPs?
[08:03] <px> tyler_d, im using an external voice/fax modem
[08:03] <usr13> mossby: less /etc/resolv.conf
[08:03] <BHSPitMonkey> frostburn, well, thanks-   for some reason, my keybinding for gnome was modified
[08:03] <tyler_d> px: prolly better luck then me, gl mang
[08:03] <BHSPitMonkey> even though I don't mess with those settings...
[08:03] <mossby> usr13: i dont think so, they were empty in the network control panel
[08:03] <lunz> anyone knows how to install login screen?i have artmanager but doesnt know how to install it..can anyone help?
[08:03] <frostburn> BHSPitMonkey, i hate when that happens, no prob
[08:03] <BHSPitMonkey> fixed now, I can be sane again
[08:04] <usr13> mossby: that is more than likely your problem.
[08:04] <usr13> Can you ping one of them?
[08:04] <usr13> (dns server?
[08:04] <px> ok
[08:04] <pavi> hello, while installing sifybroadband client which requires openssl i am getting error "cannot open libssl.so.4 : no such file or directory " though openssl is installed and is up to date. can some one help me on this.
[08:04] <pavi> can somebody help please ?
[08:04] <mossby> usr13: how can i ping them without connecting?
[08:04] <usr13> mossby: Can you ping one of the designated dns server addresses?
[08:04] <px> is anyone here from philippines?
[08:04] <px> s
[08:05] <usr13> mossby: Ok, let's start over. Does the essid of the client match that of the router?
[08:05] <graelb> Ok, I just installed 3dchess... and don't know how to run it
[08:05] <graelb> ...
[08:05] <usr13> mossby: iwconfig
[08:06] <dfgas> http://burhite.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=1626
[08:06] <mossby> usr13: yes, i had the router all setup with password etc... and couldnt connect, so i reset the router to its default 'linksys' and then still couldnt connect
[08:06] <usr13> mossby: Do you have an IP assigned to the clinet, by the router?
[08:07] <usr13> ifconfig
[08:08] <usr13> mossby: Bring up a terminal window and issue command "iwconfig" and see if essid says "linksys"
[08:08] <mossby> usr13: hmm, ill have to boot back into gutsy to figure some of this out -- ive had the same setup since edgy, never had to do anything... brb
[08:09] <ColdFlo> so where is good place for questions?
[08:09] <usr13> ColdFlo: here
[08:10] <ColdFlo> ok so looks like many people had this problem so far searches provided half az ans how i fix nvidia driver if i get black screen after loader on boot?
[08:12] <ColdFlo> lol none wants to touch it
[08:12] <xiaujuin> loooooooooooooooo
[08:12] <lunz> how can i change the login screen?
[08:12] <xiaujuin> what is your name
[08:12] <aldanon> could someone help me with compiling the new x-fi 64 bit driver?
[08:12] <xiaujuin> how do you do
[08:12] <px> ColdFlo, is it black screen only in gdm?
[08:13] <Schalken> lunz: system > administration > login screen
[08:13] <kanjo_> hello
[08:13] <aldanon> hiya kanjo
[08:13] <usr13> lunz: Computer -> System Configuration -> Login Screen Setup -> Graphical Greeter -> Install New Theme ->
[08:13] <kanjo_> i have a query regarding compiling kernel on ubuntu
[08:13] <px> lunz, check out gnome-look.org
[08:13] <aldanon> I'm kinda hoping someone here is good at compiling drivers hehe
[08:13] <xiaujuin> i am in indonesia and you
[08:14] <usr13> aldanon: What driver?
[08:14] <ColdFlo> in gdm i dont understand but it says something kernel<PHONE_NUMBER>00000 for brief second at bottom of screen then monitor loses signal then it came back but now it doesnt
[08:14] <aldanon> x-fi 64bit
[08:14] <xiaujuin> car
[08:14] <lunz> thanks usr13
[08:14] <kanjo_> everytime I recompile the kernel, install the deb, it always miss the firmware for my ipw2200, is there a way to automatically build or install the firmware along the kernel-image deb file?
[08:14] <NemesisD> is there any way to run SSH where a user on the server end can watch what you're doing in real time?
[08:14] <aldanon> can you help out usr13?
[08:15] <quang> hi every body
[08:15] <xiaujuin> i am hanifan in bandung java in you
[08:15] <aldanon> if your not familiar with x-fi - it's the next gen soundblaster by creative
[08:15] <ivanhoe> anyone where can y get the  .deb from openproject
[08:15] <ivanhoe> y dont find in the web
[08:16] <aldanon> i've looked, but the directions are too difficult for me to follow
[08:16] <aldanon> most of them are for gentoo
[08:16] <xiaujuin> hai what us your name
[08:16] <px> ColdFlo, you have to revert to your "nv" driver and install back nvidia driver. I had the same problem. You can boot in recovery mode and edit the xorg.conf file. you may have set up your refresh rate too high or too low
[08:16] <usr13> ashok_: Where are the directions?
[08:16] <usr13> aldanon: where are the directions?
[08:16] <ColdFlo> dracula is one crazy movie what an allegory
[08:17] <usr13> aldanon: is it a tarball?
[08:17] <xiaujuin> are you as hole
[08:17] <aldanon> some were
[08:17] <aldanon> i found a few sets of directions
[08:17] <xiaujuin> avnged seven fold
[08:17] <aldanon> some were tarball
[08:17] <ColdFlo> px how i do that with recovery console?
[08:17] <usr13> aldanon: does it say stuff about configure, make, make install
[08:17] <xiaujuin> you are dandut
[08:17] <aldanon> yep
[08:17] <usr13> aldanon: NOt that difficult really
[08:18] <aldanon> yeah i never had a problem before compiling, but apparently this driver has to have a homemade patch applied before it will work
[08:18] <ColdFlo> you know when dracula stabs the cross
[08:18] <usr13> aldanon: save the file to a directory like temp, mkdir temp
[08:18] <ColdFlo> the cross with the circle in the middle that circle is the sun
[08:18] <ColdFlo> because jesus is a sun god
[08:19] <aldanon> pm me usr13
[08:19] <usr13> aldanon: tell me where you got the dirver?
[08:19] <px> ColdFlo, nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf there's a comment there on how to reconfigure/reset your xorg.conf file, do that. it should fix your black screen. then you can reinstall your nvidia driver
[08:19] <kanjo_> can someone here show me how to recompile the kernel that produces 2 separate packages kernel-image and kernel-modules like Gutsy's (linux-image and ubuntu-modules)?
[08:19] <aldanon> opensource.creative.com/soundcard.html
[08:20] <ColdFlo> px i need more detailed than that
[08:20] <Random> Wafterbotsewrs!
[08:21] <ColdFlo> how does ubuntu even know the right driver to install?
[08:21] <ColdFlo> seems that restricted drivers install sucks
[08:21] <Pskol__> testing
[08:21] <px> ColdFlo, just login in your recovery console. that file contains all the detail you need
[08:22] <ColdFlo> lol
[08:22] <ColdFlo> no it doesnt
[08:22] <ColdFlo> look i refuse to start acting like a groveler
[08:22] <ColdFlo> and im not going to admit anything either
[08:23] <ColdFlo> because i know what that does to nixheads
[08:23] <ColdFlo> thats right i used windows and im proud of it
[08:23] <AJ--> /exec -o uname -a  <--- wat is this command for?
[08:24] <ColdFlo> now px is there some kind of guide for this
[08:24] <Oetmet> I need to get which files contains a certain 'string' in a directory with 204,451 files... Find says 'argument list is too long'
[08:24] <Oetmet> any idea?
[08:24] <ColdFlo> this being ubuntu and all and not gentoo?
[08:24] <AJ--> /exec -o uname -a  <--- can someone tell me wat is this command for
[08:25] <px> ColdFlo, look in ubuntu forums
[08:25] <ColdFlo> ok px you are unhelpful
[08:25] <ColdFlo> faggot
[08:25] <compwiz18> is there any easy to use software for Ubuntu that graph equations like y=x, etc?
[08:25] <Amaranth> wow lag
[08:26] <jack|ass> Can anyone recommend a new laptop that is well supported by Linux?
[08:26] <scguy318> compwiz18: i think we have some math software in the repos lemme look
[08:26] <jack|ass> I'm in the market for a new one, yet very very lazy and not wanting to do research. :P
[08:26] <Schalken> compwiz18: kmplot?
[08:27] <Schalken> compwiz18: gnuplot?
[08:27] <Schalken> (gnuplot is not easy to use)
[08:27] <scguy318> jack|ass: i cant, I haven't bought any new machines in ages :(
[08:27] <compwiz18> Schalken, yeah, gnuplot is the reason I added easy to use in my question :)
[08:27] <jack|ass> scguy318: my pentium-M is finally slow enough to make me want a new one.
[08:28] <jack|ass> although oddly Gutsy beta seems MUCH slower than feisty...
[08:28] <Schalken> compwiz18: kmplot is very simple, not very powerful though
[08:28] <Amaranth> jack|ass: http://www.dell.com/ubuntu
[08:28] <J-_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeSoftwareLaptop
[08:28] <jack|ass> Amaranth: no dells. :)  Although i'll check out what they do.
[08:28] <compwiz18> Schalken, Alright, I'll see if I can learn to use gnuplot
[08:29] <Amaranth> jack|ass: Well, you can go there or something much more expensive
[08:29] <scguy318> compwiz18: does kmplot not cut it for you?
[08:29] <Amaranth> jack|ass: Or randomly pick something that uses intel graphics and wireless and hope the suspend/resume and such works
[08:29] <compwiz18> scguy318, I haven
[08:29] <compwiz18> scguy318, I haven't tried it yet, but I will momentarily
[08:29] <Schalken> compwiz18: if you just want to visualise simple equations, kmplot does the job. gnuplot is more flexible and more used to make graphs for documents.
[08:29] <jack|ass> Amaranth: i've been soured on dells after having to service them for years at the university.
[08:29] <scguy318> compwiz18: kk :) if those packages do not satisfy, there are a few Java applets floating around on the Internet that can do some limited graphing features
[08:30] <compwiz18> scguy318, that's what I've been using so far :P
[08:30] <scguy318> Amaranth: the devs reallly need to work on suspend/resume :(
[08:31] <Amaranth> scguy318: How?
[08:31] <compwiz18> I was kinda leaning away from kmplot because it requires all the qt depends and I haven't installed them yet
[08:32] <Amaranth> scguy318: We have people working on it fairly constantly but can only do it for hardware we understand
[08:32] <charlie5> hi all ... i'm installing a geforce 7600gs card and have a problem ... when ubuntu boots, i get an error saying the power supply has not being connected ... it also offers an option for the X config file to disable the power check, but i'm worried it will fry the card ... as is, the card seems to work ok (except that the nvidia driver will not load also due to power prob) ... would anyone be familiar with this card ?
[08:32] <scguy318> Amaranth: that's what I mean, keep on working :)
[08:33] <compwiz18> Amaranth, is that why suspend/resume only works occasionally on fglrx systems?
[08:33] <scguy318> compwiz18: i find that ATI chips fail at suspend in general, though my perspective is probably quite limited
[08:33] <compwiz18> well, some days mine works, some days it doesn't, most days I don't need it :)
[08:34] <scguy318> charlie5: i don't possess such a card, but have you checked the fine plugs on your card?
[08:34] <Amaranth> compwiz18: that's be fglrx
[08:35] <charlie5> scguy318: not really ... i'm not sure what they would look like :/
[08:35] <compwiz18> I'm hoping eventually we'll have open source ATI drivers that support 3d all ati cards
[08:35] <scguy318> compwiz18: probably months off, but that dream seems to be closer
[08:35] <Amaranth> scguy318: at least a year off
[08:36] <compwiz18> scguy318, hopefully :) the ones now work pretty well as long as you don't need suspend
[08:36] <compwiz18> or aiglx
[08:36] <scguy318> compwiz18: the latest ATI driver that's supposedly due this month apparently adds AIGLX support
[08:36] <scguy318> charlie5: well, could you be specific about the error message that you encounter?
[08:36] <compwiz18> scguy318, that's what I'm hoping :D
[08:36] <charlie5> scguy318: here's a picture of the board (not very big sorry) ... http://www.inno3d.com/products/graphic_card/gf7_agp/7600gs.htm
[08:37] <scguy318> charlie5: dunno, check the plug that huge fan hooks up to? :P
[08:37] <scguy318> charlie5: perhaps your power supply cant deliver
[08:38] <charlie5> scguy318: :) ... don't say that ! ... ;) ... i've been worried the whole thing will go up in smoke any moment
[08:39] <scguy318> charlie5: well, if your power supply can't deliver, you'll probably need another, what's the output of your current one?
[08:39] <larsemil> is there any program similar to adobe indesign?
[08:39] <cellofellow> I just installed Ubuntu on my new laptop. I'm used to Xubuntu. How do I add workspaces to GNOME? I can't find it for the life of me.
[08:39] <scguy318> larsemil: OpenOffice.org, Scribus
[08:40] <larsemil> openoffice is not even close.
[08:40] <larsemil> scribus i never tried.
[08:40] <scguy318> larsemil: well, those are my suggestions, keep in mind that you probably know more about your needs than I do :)
[08:40] <scguy318> cellofellow: I'm using Xfce, and I can't recall :(
[08:41] <charlie5> scguy318: i need to open up the case to check ... i'll take a closer look at the vid card also to see if it looks likeit accepts a power input ... thanks for the help ... back in a bit, if all goes well
[08:41] <cellofellow> scguy318: dang, I'm so used to the xfce way.
[08:41] <scguy318> cellofellow: oh I think I figured it out
[08:41] <mossby> usr13: i dunno man, its so messed up... i have the most common router and usb link known to man, the essid matched after iwconfig... also sometimes the wireless device 'wlan0' just dissappears, other times its replaced by 'wlan0:avahi'
[08:41] <scguy318> cellofellow: right click the workspace switcher applet, then preferences
[08:41] <cellofellow> scguy318: you can just middle click the desktop and "add Workspace".
[08:41] <cellofellow> tried that.
[08:41] <scguy318> cellofellow: ah, didn't know that :)
[08:42] <jamison_> anyone know the command to rund wxpython
[08:42] <Pskol__> os[Linux 2.6.20-16-generic - Debian 4.0]  up[ 2 hours, 17 minutes]  cpu[AMD Duron(tm) processor, 1202.766 MHz (2408.18 bogomips)]  mem[ 244.51/250.08 MB (97.8%)]  video[ at 1024x768 (32 bits)]
[08:42] <cellofellow> scguy318: that just gives me a dialog that asks how many rows I want the workspaces to be displayed as.
[08:43] <Curs0r> does anyone play WoW under wine? my roommate's audio is being weird, he only hears sound from certain angles and the voice chat doesn't work for him at all
[08:43] <cellofellow> jamison_: wxpython is more of a programming language than a program. If you just open python in a terminal, and import wx, you can play with it.
[08:43] <scguy318> cellofellow: isn't there a number of workspaces box?
[08:43] <cellofellow> scguy318: not that I can see. :(
[08:43] <scguy318> cellofellow: :(
[08:43] <cellofellow> scguy318: using Gutsy, so that may be why.
[08:43] <scguy318> Curs0r: have you selected ALSA in winecfg?
[08:43] <scguy318> cellofellow: ah
[08:43] <compwiz18> kmplot seems to work ok, thanks :)
[08:43] <jamison_> oh i thought it was like wxglade
[08:43] <Curs0r> scguy318, yes
[08:44] <cellofellow> jamison_: nah, wxglade is for creating GUI's to use in wxPython programs.
[08:44] <scguy318> Curs0r: mm, you may be better served in #winehq
[08:44] <Curs0r> scguy318, thanks
[08:45] <jamison_> well cool thanks
[08:46] <scguy318> cellofellow: OT, but are you connecting from work? and my Workspace Applet help page sez its something under Workspaces, but they must have changed in Gutsy's GNOME version
[08:46] <c3LT1cFr05t> hello one and all!
[08:46] <Pskol__> Linux vitor 2.6.20-16-generic - Cpu0: AMD Duron 1203MHz; /: 37G(f=23G); Up: 2:21; Users: 4; Load: 0.14;
[08:46] <cellofellow> scguy318: I'm at home.
[08:47] <mossby> has there been much talk concerning wireless problems in Gutsy?
[08:48] <scguy318> cellofellow: ah, ok, your hostmask suggested some sort of corporation :)
[08:48] <cellofellow> oh, and this screwy Synaptics touchpad is way too sensitive. I installed gSynaptics but it said I needed in some option in xorg.conf, whatever it was.
[08:48] <mossby> ive never had a problem since Dapper, always works out of the box,  i have a WRT45G, the most common router ever
[08:48] <cellofellow> scguy318: nah, just an odd ISP.
[08:48] <scguy318> cellofellow: can't you go SYstem -> Administration -> Mouse or something
[08:48] <scguy318> cellofellow: i forgot
[08:48] <jamison_> does anyone know where i can find a list of ubuntu terminal commands. such as apt-get VS aptitude?
[08:48] <scguy318> cellowfellow: the Synaptics issue is one I've heard before though
[08:49] <cellofellow> scguy318: yes, but that doesn't give enough options.
[08:49] <scguy318> !bash
[08:49] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[08:49] <cellofellow> jamison_: I wrote this a while ago, but should be relevant: http://mellowcellofellow.googlepages.com/apt-for-ubuntu
[08:50] <scguy318> im going for the night, cya all
[08:53] <ajcabando> any links for an updated guide for compiz-fusion
[08:54] <jamison_> is there any better terminals then the default one that comes with ubuntu
[08:55] <ajcabando> any links for an updated guide for compiz-fusion?
[08:55] <mtholdenss> well install on beta won't work, odd..
[08:56] <Crush`> is there a simple way to see if a file has more than n number of lines?
[08:57] <simplechat_> hey, if i reinstall windows, how do i get ubuntu back onto my mbr?
[08:58] <simplechat_> crush grep -n file (iirc)
[08:58] <riotkittie> simplechat_: you'll need to pop a ubuntu live CD in and recover grub
[08:58] <riotkittie> !grub | simplechat_
[08:58] <ubotu> simplechat_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:58] <Curs0r> grub is easy to install
[08:58] <Crush`> thanks
[08:58] <simplechat> riotkittie: so theres a backup of grub somewhere?
[08:59] <riotkittie> i'm not sure i'd go so far as to call it a backup...  you're basically just setting it up again
[08:59] <simplechat> !grub | simplechat__
[08:59] <ubotu> simplechat__: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:00] <simplechat> riotkittie, i take it should save my ~/ now?
[09:00] <oberdober> Hello all :) would someone be able to tell me where I can find the mysql-devel package or even just the mysql.h header file?
[09:00] <simplechat> before i reinstall windows?
[09:00] <mtholdenss> howcome i can't install the beta from the livecd?
[09:00] <jim__> crush:maybe take a look at "wc" too ie. wc - print the number of newlines, words, and bytes in files
[09:00] <Crush`> thank you
[09:01] <Crozar> hey guys why doesnt ubuntu have right click show preview forexample * Pictures , yes sometimes ill be looking for a pic i want to preview it before have it selected.
[09:01] <riotkittie> simplechat: its never bad practice to backup the data that you love, but really if you have ubuntu installed, xp[?]  shouldnt overwrite it. unless ...  is there only a ubuntu partition?
[09:02] <riotkittie> xp wont really mess with it. <knocks on wood>
[09:02] <simplechat> riotkittie, default ubuntu install. i installed windows about halfway (it didn't like my keys, and now bluescreens on startup), then installed ubuntu the "default" way
[09:02] <simplechat> (use remaining sapce)
[09:03] <riotkittie> ok. so you should be good
[09:03] <AJ--> any updated guides for compiz-fusion?? i cant install it :(
[09:03] <riotkittie> AJ--: you may find help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:04] <tylo> hello all. could anyone help me out with a potentially newb Java question? Send me a PM if you think you can help.
[09:04] <cwe_cr_tmn> blabla
[09:05] <mtholdenss> once installed beta, is it easy to upgrade to final release?
[09:05] <c3LT1cFr05t> firefox has add-on that gives you a color picker that is only Win. for anyone who hasn't realized it, ubuntu does it anyways w/o any help.the little eyedropper color picker that is in properties to custumize the dasktop can stray off the box and picks colors perfectly anywhere even online
[09:05] <c3LT1cFr05t> sorry
[09:05] <skinhead_7115> wer hat lust bei mir in die bande zu kommen ??
[09:06] <ogenewbie> I got ubuntu, it works. yeah. I got lost irc. dittos. now for a slightly better irc - copy backscroll, logging, make PM chat. So, I go look for XCHAT. I have Feisty Fawn 7.4 and I cant find out where the universal repositories are. I dont want to compile anything. I want the install to be "normal" like lost irc, not a cli with a string of references. Where can I download XCHAT from? (please and thank you)
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> what's the file that determines what to load for a DE right after you log in from GDM?
[09:06] <ubuntu_> hello
[09:06] <ogenewbie> tylo. I think it is normal to ask a question and wait.
[09:07] <simplechat> hey, how would i open an external hard drive for reading and writing?
[09:07] <attackdecay> for some reason i'm missing like half of my System-Administration menu entries in gnome..  has anyone run into this, or have a solution to restore them?
[09:07] <simplechat> rather then it being a read only file system?
[09:07] <simplechat> i've installed ntfs-3g?
[09:07] <c3LT1cFr05t> ogennewbie:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/  please respect the plus 4 line paste in bin
[09:07] <simplechat> but i can't find anything additionally
[09:08] <tylo> ogenewbie: i've taken my question to #java
[09:09] <ogenewbie> c3LT1cFr05, respect the plus 4 line paste in bin - (whats "in bin"?) means dont aske a long question, eh? I will look for that link.
[09:09] <c3LT1cFr05t> attackdecay:yea I saw them in my applications menu earlier but I think they went out
[09:09] <adelie> is there a tool like tsearch from windows for linux?
[09:09] <c3LT1cFr05t> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:10] <portablejim> How do I increase the refresh rate? (I have already tried  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and overstated what my monitor can do)
[09:10] <KenSentMe> Where can i make suggestions for the ubotu bot?
[09:11] <adelie> how do I search memory resources used by a specific process?
[09:11] <ogenewbie> The answer that sHe gave me just gave me some kind of a pastepage. I dont know what a pastepage is. I had already looked on those pages before I came here and didnt find an xchat dl page.
[09:11] <Evanlec> adelie, htop
[09:11] <riotkittie> is there a way to uniformly resize multple icons on the desktop in one shot?
[09:12] <c3LT1cFr05t> ogenewbie: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ is a place for us to leave larger size "explanations" of our problems to help one another
[09:12] <adelie> evanlec can that be used to change values stored in that processes memory?
[09:12] <KenSentMe> !bot
[09:12] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:12] <Evanlec> adelie, oh i donno about that, probly not, htop just a process viewer
[09:13] <riotkittie> i thought large explinations were ok, but the copying and pasting was not
[09:13] <adelie> hmm... thanks. sure that will get me further than I was
[09:13] <ogenewbie> small version: want xchat download for feisty
[09:13] <riotkittie> ogenewbie: you can ALT + F2 then gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   ... find the universe lines and uncomment them
[09:13] <D4N`> hi
[09:14] <wado> hi everybody, could anybody tell me, what can I do for view better fonts in apps? my fonst looks ugly
[09:14] <wado> http://i20.tinypic.com/142d74y.png
[09:14] <c3LT1cFr05t> adelie: what ap?
[09:14] <D4N`> private
[09:14] <riotkittie> otherwise, open synaptic and try looking under the edit menu... i'm not sure if repos are on that menu or not tho
[09:14] <portablejim> !pastebin
[09:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:14] <ogenewbie> not kittie, I dont know what that means. I have been a fortran mainframe programmer and I can do many things to windows systems and use a unix shell but this is greek to me.
[09:15] <adelie> c3LT1cFr05t lookin for a program like tsearch for linux. something to search process memory to manipulate values (make game hacks)
[09:16] <riotkittie> wado: assuming you're using the GNOME Desktop, go to System menu > Preferences > Fonts
[09:16] <KenSentMe> I made a suggestion for Ubotu, using !<factoid> is <fact>, but it returns me an error. Does this mean the suggestion isn't forwarded to the ops?
[09:16] <c3LT1cFr05t> adelie: i think i have a bookmark pls hold
[09:16] <jussi01> KenSentMe: did you take away the <>
[09:16] <teKnofreak> KenSentMe, what error ? it is moderated btw
[09:16] <jussi01> ?P?
[09:16] <riotkittie> ogenewbie: assuming you're also using GNOME, go to System > Administration. Open the synaptic package manager
[09:16] <KenSentMe> teKnofreak, Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[09:17] <teKnofreak> hehe..
[09:17] <jussi01> KenSentMe: ?
[09:17] <teKnofreak> KenSentMe, and what did you tell it ?
[09:17] <riotkittie> ogenewbie: once Synaptic opens, go to the Settings menu, select Repositories
[09:17] <KenSentMe> jussi01, yes i did
[09:17] <KenSentMe> !gutsy is Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[09:18] <KenSentMe> That was my message
[09:18] <jussi01> hmmm
[09:18] <teKnofreak> KenSentMe, try not using pipes |
[09:18] <KenSentMe> teKnofreak, it's in the standard factoid
[09:18] <KenSentMe> !gutsy
[09:18] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[09:18] <ogenewbie> sorry I do not want to alter essential parts of my system.  aer you guys witholding on me ? this is a simple url that I need for this / I am using gnome. argh. are you saying I already have xchat on my computer and dont need to download it?
[09:18] <oasis> I cant open some .pdf with xpdf,why?
[09:18] <riotkittie> wado: when you got the font thing open, select "best shape". if that alone doesnt help, click details and select either grayscale or subpixel under smoothing
[09:18] <c3LT1cFr05t> adelie: http://www.gamediscovery.com/game-design/game-design-software.asp
[09:18] <teKnofreak> KenSentMe, it works.. ?
[09:19] <riotkittie> ogenewbie: didnt you say something about the repositories and enabling universe?
[09:19] <KenSentMe> teKnofreak, i just added a line. And that line doesn't show yet

[09:19] <Evanlec> ogenewbie, you'll be using synaptic package manager a lot...its pretty safe to use
[09:19] <oasis> %C9should I also install some plugins?
[09:19] <teKnofreak> KenSentMe, it is moderated, so have your finger crossed
[09:19] <wado> riotkittie: thanx, but when I change the font size, only titles fonts are changing not fonts in window
[09:19] <riotkittie> yea. enabling the universe repos for a second is perfectly fine.
[09:19] <KenSentMe> teKnofreak, yeah, but if i get an error in return it doesn't give me the idea that my suggestion is forwarded
[09:20] <jussi01> KenSentMe: Ill forward it manually and get the problem addressed
[09:20] <adelie> c3LT1cFr05t hmm... any particular tool?
[09:20] <riotkittie> wado: not the font size. have you changed the rendering? shaping? hinting?
[09:20] <KenSentMe> jussi01, you are an op?
[09:20] <teKnofreak> KenSentMe, Seveas is here, poke him ;) (isn't he the one who made ubotu?)
[09:20] <jussi01> KenSentMe: Sort of... not in here though :)
[09:20] <Evanlec> i too would like to make suggestions to the bot, that bot is quite handy (but it could be even more handy)
[09:21] <KenSentMe> Seveas, ping
[09:21] <WildOS> Is there a difference between arm and x86 platforms when it comes to starting up threads in a constructor, before the main function is actually run?
[09:21] <c3LT1cFr05t> im sorry its been so long,i'm looking through it now. lets see what we both come up with
[09:21] <jussi01> KenSentMe: Ill sort it out
[09:21] <WildOS> Running debian 2.6.22
[09:21] <KenSentMe> jussi01, okay, thanks
[09:21] <WildOS> And NPTL
[09:22] <c3LT1cFr05t> TWIT just mentioned us on his tech now show
[09:22] <mtholdenss> what was said on TWIT?
[09:22] <riotkittie> TWIT? o_o
[09:22] <wado> riotkittie: all changes view only on the title bar and desktop :-(
[09:22] <axel-s> hi, I'm new to the ubuntu/debian package system... is there a way to reinstall ALL packages from command line?
[09:22] <ogenewbie> NotKatie: I said I dont know what the universe repositores are and could not find it in a search inthe ubuntu docs or in google. so I asked here.
[09:22] <riotkittie> wado: that is odd. :(
[09:23] <riotkittie> i have no idea, in that case. i am sorry :(
[09:23] <jussi01> !repos | ogenewbie
[09:23] <ubotu> ogenewbie: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:23] <c3LT1cFr05t> http://audio.rfdradio.info:8000/cni Radio stream talking ubuntu right now
[09:23] <ogenewbie> !repos
[09:23] <wado> riotkittie: i'll try restart app
[09:24] <koshari> ogenewbie the ubniverse repositorey is an additional software repository where maintainers store precompiled packages of popular software compatible with ubuntu.
[09:25] <ogenewbie> ubotu: that looks like advice I can deal with. thanks jussi01. will check it out.
[09:25] <riotkittie> ogenewbie: the universe repo is community maintained, and thus not officially supported, tho you can obtain support for packages from from the community
[09:25] <jussi01> !bot | ogenewbie
[09:25] <koshari> and  ogenewbie as evenlec mentioned earlier synaptic is the easiest place to enable the universe repository.
[09:25] <ubotu> ogenewbie: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:25] <jussi01> !gutsy | KenSentMe
[09:25] <ubotu> KenSentMe: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[09:26] <KenSentMe> jussi01, nice, thanks
[09:26] <MoFlo> lol twit mentioned ubuntu who cares they are just rating whores and ubuntu is the easiest nix to deal with
[09:26] <MoNsTeR> does anybody know how i can make my ubuntu look better
[09:27] <jussi01> KenSentMe:  :) np's
[09:27] <MoFlo> monster they wont tell you if it takes more than one line of instructions
[09:27] <MoFlo> these guys are all very leet
[09:27] <WildOS>  What does tis mean: gdbserver: Child terminated with signal = 5
[09:27] <WildOS> tis=this
[09:27] <c3LT1cFr05t> monster: like what ideas
[09:28] <silviu> Monter, google "gnome art" if you use Gnome
[09:28] <MoFlo> see monster it worked they are talking to y ou now
[09:28] <MoFlo> see just get a friend to jump on you
[09:28] <magnetron> !eyecandy | MoNsTeR
[09:28] <ubotu> MoNsTeR: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[09:28] <MoFlo> then they will help out of pity
[09:28] <ogenewbie> koshari: sorry but that is clear as mud. I was thinking the UR was a library. Now it is something that one can enable.   Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[09:29] <silviu> moflo, maybe you have other things to do and we're keeping you
[09:29] <ogenewbie> really smart people can make it simple.  I want to download and instal xchat because (I thought) it is a simple but better than lostirc irc program. I like mirc - you know, I just wanted to be able to open a pm window by myself and not have to type /msg juss01 is this the newbie channel or the confusion zone
[09:33] <riotkittie> you know. if you ask a question, and you get answers that you dislike or dont understand ...
[09:33] <aldanon> alrighty back ;)
[09:33] <nomego> what could be the problem if I get read timeouts from /dev/random ?
[09:33] <ogenewbie> notkittie, then you ask again and attempt to clarify.
[09:33] <riotkittie> following your plea for help with "really smart people cant make it simple. anybody here really smart" > in effect saying those who tried to help you are morons...
[09:34] <jodih2> i need to delete a file and cant remeber how
[09:34] <preaction> !info xchat
[09:34] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 796 kB
[09:34] <ogenewbie> not morons, just FUD
[09:34] <riotkittie> is more a less a sure fire way to insure you arent helped
[09:34] <LinAsH> jodih2, rm
[09:34] <jodih2> thanks linash
[09:34] <preaction> ogenewbie, you need to add the "Universe" repository to Synaptic. There's a menu for it even. Once "Universe" is enabled, you can search for and install xchat from Synaptic.
[09:35] <MoNsTeR> does anybody know how i can make my ubuntu look better well i wanted to make my desktop look good ill take a screen shot of what it looks like right now and you guys can tell me stuff i can do to make it look better :)
[09:35] <jussi01> ogenewbie: ok. Ill assume you are using gnome. go to synaptic package manager->manage repositories->make sure universe repositories are enabled(with teh check box). the search for xchat and click install.
[09:35] <magnetron> !eyecandy | MoNsTeR
[09:35] <ubotu> MoNsTeR: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[09:35] <preaction> !changethemes | MoNsTeR
[09:35] <ubotu> MoNsTeR: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[09:35] <AlexForster> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Ideas <- last one (button concepts)
[09:36] <ogenewbie> well I'd rather not make me wrong either. with all this energy I can just figure that somehow my asking for a download site for xchat is not an answerable question. I sure wish I ermember how I foudn a download for lostirc. It was nto a major event. I cant add something to something I dont know what it is. This is not my path. I would never have recommended this to anywone had I fount this fud before. Have a nice life.
[09:36] <riotkittie> good lord.
[09:37] <preaction> uhm... point of order: How is anything said by this support channel classified as FUD?
[09:37] <Madpilot> someone suffers from lack of clue...
[09:37] <Fallenou> lol
[09:38] <koshari> ogenewbie left the room (quit: ) one less difficult brat to have to deal with
[09:38] <riotkittie> people who throw temper tantrums because "omg!! enable a repo!! nooooo!! please pretend to be google and give me a link to a download i refuse to get from the repos!! i hate you, and i'm taking my internet and going home, so die!" ... make me want to smoke
[09:38] <MoNsTeR> all you guys do is use ubotu
[09:38] <riotkittie> ok. i was just looking for an excuse for a cigarette
[09:38] <MoNsTeR> why not actually try and help
[09:38] <aldanon> anyone here good with compiling drivers?
[09:38] <riotkittie> MoNsTeR: plenty of people type, plenty of people actually try to help
[09:38] <Madpilot> MoNsTeR, of course. The bot is the most intelligent thing in this channel. :)
[09:39] <riotkittie> but the fact of the matter is, sometimes, its easier or more appropriate to use the bot
[09:39] <MoNsTeR> does anybody know where i would put a theme i just downloaded at? its for emerald
[09:39] <preaction> MoNsTeR, because the questions 99% of people ask are better answered by tutorials and static pages. everyone asks these questions and interactive help is pointless when you can't actually see the other user's desktop
[09:39] <usr13> The linux community seems to be out of step with ogenewbie
[09:39] <aldanon> i'm trying to compile the new x-fi 64-bit driver but i'm having troubles
[09:39] <riotkittie> and granted the attitude some of those seeking help present, i cant really blame people for !commanding and wiping their hands of it sometimes
[09:39] <karmelek> hello
[09:39] <preaction> MoNsTeR, you drag and drop the archive onto the theme manager i believe
[09:40] <MoNsTeR> ok preaction
[09:40] <koshari>  MoNsTeR you can place the theme where ever you like, then browse to it with emerald
[09:40] <jussi01> !compile | aldanon
[09:40] <ubotu> aldanon: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:40] <_bt> ogenewbie just needs to let jesus into his heart.
[09:40] <aldanon> ubotu: this is a beta driver just released by Creative for the X-fi sound card
[09:40] <riotkittie> and honestly - not to be mean, not to be a jerk - if you can get the information from an easy to follow guide, why shouldnt you read it?
[09:40] <Madpilot> MoNsTeR, System->Preferences->Themes, then drag your theme archive into the open Theme manager window
[09:40] <jussi01> !bot > aldanon
[09:41] <aldanon> doh hehe
[09:41] <jussi01> hehe
[09:41] <aldanon> didnt know it was a bot lmao
[09:41] <aldanon> i was getting help but i think he fell asleep!
[09:41] <aldanon> so close too hehe
[09:41] <jussi01> lol
[09:42] <jussi01> aldanon: what error are you getting?
[09:42] <jussi01> aldanon: remember to use !paste if its a big bit of text
[09:42] <aldanon> eh he had me reboot so i don't have it anymore ;/ but it had an "error2" in it
[09:42] <riotkittie> is there a way to uniformly resize multple icons on the desktop in one shot?
[09:42] <jussi01> aldanon: I need a bit more than that. can you try again?
[09:43] <usr13> aldanon: you may need "kde-devel"  ? (You have kbuntu, right?)
[09:43] <aldanon> i don't recall any of the steps he took me through - but i do know the driver is in a temp folder we created
[09:44] <usr13> riotkittie: Yes, change desktop resolution.
[09:44] <aldanon> and we were at the step of make
[09:44] <aldanon> yeah kubuntu
[09:44] <riotkittie> usr13: that'd be great, if i wanted to change my desktop resolution. i don't.
[09:44] <jussi01> aldanon: run make from that folder again
[09:44] <aldanon> usr13 is awake?! hehe
[09:45] <aldanon> i wish i knew how he got me to that folder ;)
[09:45] <usr13> Just barley
[09:45] <usr13> cd temp
[09:45] <aldanon> how can i get back to that temp folder?
[09:45] <aldanon> hmm no targets specified
[09:45] <aldanon> no makefile found
[09:45] <ipx>  ./configure
[09:45] <jussi01> aldanon: did you do 'cd temp'
[09:46] <ppg> hello all
[09:46] <usr13> and then:  cd XFiDrv_Linux_US-1.04
[09:46] <aldanon> there we go
[09:46] <aldanon> can i paste this?
[09:46] <jussi01> !paste
[09:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:46] <aldanon> or join my chan jussi?
[09:46] <aldanon> !paste
[09:46] <NetGear> hi all
[09:46] <mtholdenss> how soon will the  bug in the partial upgrade be fixed?
[09:46] <ppg> am having serious troubles with my wireless and webcam
[09:47] <aldanon> jussi01 can you join my channel?
[09:47] <jussi01> aldanon: you are welcome to join #dib5sn
[09:47] <NetGear> how to change resolution to 1024x768
[09:47] <usr13> aldanon: You might just start over:  cd  $HOME/temp ; rm -rf XFiDrv_Linux_US-1.04
[09:47] <D4N`> hi
[09:48] <NetGear> D4N`, hi
[09:48] <ardin> ok, anyone actually know anything about video playback?
[09:48] <NetGear> how to change resolution to 1024x768
[09:48] <D4N`> good
[09:49] <NetGear> need help to edit xorg.conf
[09:49] <aldanon> thanks so much for your help so far usr13
[09:49] <dgjones> !fixres | NetGear
[09:49] <ubotu> NetGear: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:49] <aldanon> i tried starting over, but got "permission denied" when trying to use that command
[09:49] <jussi01> usr13: could you also join #dib5sn
[09:50] <ppg> anyone knows how to enable atheros ar5007eg in ubuntu???
[09:51] <ardin> for some reason, some avi files use up 100% cpu, while others dont. For Instance: Heroes avi file (ripped in HD) only makes my cpu hit about 35%. its a 350mb file. Simpsons or Family Guy make it hit 100% and they're both ripped in SD. any ideas? i'm using VLC to play them
[09:51] <ppg> anyone knows how to enable lgwebcam in ubuntu???
[09:52] <NetGear> ubotu, i have edited the xorg.conf file & restarted the machine but no effect
[09:52] <preaction> ardin, more important is what codec the avis are using.
[09:52] <NetGear> ubotu, help what to do
[09:52] <moDumass> hey yall, whats the easiest way to update my distro, without having everything go to s41t
[09:53] <moDumass> salt, haha
[09:53] <ardin> preaction, let me look
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help what to do - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <ardin> preaction: all 3 of them are using the XviD codec
[09:54] <preaction> ardin, dunno then.
[09:54] <ardin> i've filpped thru the package manager to find anything relating to codecs or video playback and i havent found anything useful
[09:54] <heguru> !ubotu > NetGear
[09:55] <NetGear> heguru, i did'nt get it ? what you said
[09:55] <ppg> help with wireless
[09:55] <heguru> NetGear: ubotu is a bot
[09:55] <Shadowfire_> evening... and early morning to you all...
[09:56] <padi> \server dal.net
[09:56] <dgjones> !offtopic | padi
[09:56] <ubotu> padi: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:56] <ProN00b> why does a file move cancel if you close the target destination nautilus ?
[09:59] <mactimes> Hello experts!
[09:59] <silviu> good morning
[09:59] <frostburn> ardin, avi is only a container, different codecs are used to compress the video and audio
[10:00] <ardin> they're all using XviD and MP3
[10:00] <silviu> i'm looking for a explanation: why in 7.04 standard the mouse cursor becomes jerky and freezes during multitasking, and after i install compiz manager it doesnt do that anymore
[10:00] <mactimes> I'm used to old redhat systems and I was wondering if someone could tell me how do I change init runlevels, once there is no /etc/inittab config file.
[10:00] <porkpie> hi guy's anyone know when the clamav pkg will be updated ?
[10:00] <frostburn> ardin, some might be using different mpeg4 decoders
[10:00] <NetGear> help for  dhcp server
[10:01] <mactimes> NetGear, I can try to help you out with that.
[10:01] <mactimes> NetGear, What do you need?
[10:01] <NetGear> mactimes, i have 2 nic both with static ip
[10:01] <mactimes> NetGear, Carry on.
[10:01] <NetGear> mactimes, doth in diff network
[10:02] <MoNsTeR> can somebody tell me where i can get a skydome image
[10:02] <mactimes> NetGear, Ok, continue.
[10:02] <NetGear> i want to setup a dhcp server on one network or eth1
[10:02] <NetGear> mactimes, i have install dhcp3
[10:02] <mactimes> NetGear, What is the problem you're facing?
[10:03] <Frogzoo> NetGear: you need to poke around in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[10:03] <fezick> <-- stretch...
[10:03] <fezick> uits been awhile since i been irc
[10:03] <NetGear> Frogzoo, i need dhcp on only one network
[10:04] <ProN00b> ardin, i am also using vlc, i never had problems with cpu (other than the obvious speed lack problems with my 1800+ amd for hd)
[10:04] <MoNsTeR> can somebody tell me where i can get a skydome image
[10:04] <fezick> google
[10:04] <fezick> ?
[10:04] <ardin> sdfh;bghdsfhbgjasbfbnsfgkl;dgs'
[10:04] <MoNsTeR> fezick, cant tell me to go to google
[10:05] <fezick> hehe.... i cant?.... hrm... i should have read the rulls
[10:05] <ardin> ProN00b, ok, let me explain this slowly. the files i'm having problems with ARENT HD. the ones that i wasnt having problems with, ARE HD
[10:05] <n2diy> MoNsTeR: kstars?
[10:05] <mactimes> NetGear, Hold on, I have a server with that exact configuration for DHCP, let me check the parameters.  Just a sec
[10:05] <ProN00b> ardin, yes, i understood that the first time, that is why i said i never had problems like that
[10:05] <Frogzoo> MoNsTeR: -> google
[10:06] <ProN00b> ardin, as you can see i said i had problems with hd
[10:06] <fezick> hehe
[10:06] <ardin> and, they work on windows just fine. Slackware had  problems with it as well
[10:06] <heguru> MoNsTeR: http://www.nick.ukfsn.org/skydome/
[10:06] <MoNsTeR> Frogzoo, ive looked on google so therefor i came here so stop telling me to go to google
[10:06] <fezick> rofl
[10:06] <fezick> gawd i missed this
[10:06] <ProN00b> ardin, what is your cpu and more importantly graphics processor ?
[10:06] <fezick> ahhh
[10:06] <fezick> ok
[10:06] <fezick> nite nite
[10:06] <ProN00b> ardin, and where are you playing the files from ?
[10:07] <ardin> ... my hard drive
[10:07] <heguru> MoNsTeR: don't worry about the pics looking bad in firefox, when you put them in skydome they will look good
[10:07] <ProN00b> ardin, and the cpu and gpu ?
[10:07] <MoNsTeR> thanks heguru your the best
[10:08] <ardin> 1.2ghz, Geforce4MX 512 (i think)
[10:08] <ProN00b> ardin, got hardware acceleration enabled in the blob driver manager ?
[10:09] <ardin> ... blob driver manager?
[10:09] <ardin> wtf
[10:10] <magnetron> !ohmy | ardin
[10:10] <ubotu> ardin: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:10] <ardin> ... I DIDNT SWEAR
[10:10] <NetGear> i need to configure a server having 2 network on it such that dhcp will work on only one network