[12:14] <alx_> hello
[12:14] <gugu^> HELP to set up my printers
[12:14] <john> i don't remember the command to install the 32bit libs
[12:15] <lee_> its ia32
[12:15] <lee_> I found them on adept
[12:15] <john> there ya go
[12:15] <gugu^> HELP to install my Canon LBP-810
[12:15] <lee_> installed and ran the game, it got farther in the bootup process but still diddnt play
[12:15] <lee_> it brought a americas army graphic up on my screen
[12:16] <john> gugu^: wait someone will respond, i know nothing about installing canon printers
[12:16] <john> lee any errors?
[12:16] <lee_> Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[12:16] <lee_> History:
[12:16] <lee_> Exiting due to error
[12:16] <john> lee
[12:16] <lee_> im gonna take a wild guess... does this have something to do with my videocard/drivers?
[12:16] <gugu^> john: ok
[12:17] <john> glxinfo |grep direct
[12:17] <lee_> lee@Big-Lee:~$ glxinfo |grep direct
[12:17] <lee_> direct rendering: No
[12:17] <lee_> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[12:18] <lee_> John:^^
[12:18] <john> ok thats why
[12:18] <john> what vid card?
[12:18] <lee_> pny nvidia 6800gt AGP
[12:18] <john> ok
[12:19] <john> lee_: wget http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.8.1-0ubuntu6_all.deb
[12:19] <john> then
[12:19] <john> type the command in console
[12:20] <john> the ^^ command
[12:20] <john> then type
[12:20] <lizardj> hy
[12:20] <john> sudo dpkg -i  envy_0.8.1-0ubuntu6_all.deb
[12:22] <lizardj> ciao
[12:22] <john> now hit ctrl +alt + f1 to kill your x session then type envy in the shell after you login in console press 1 after install is done, type startx and try running the game
[12:25] <yaccin> !envy
[12:25] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[12:25] <lee_> John: could you post the last thing over again? it took me to some dos-like black screen and I had to reboot when I pressed ctrl, alt, f1
[12:25] <john> thats what your supposed to be
[12:25] <lee_> oh
[12:25] <john> read this again and remember it
[12:25] <john> now hit ctrl +alt + f1 to kill your x session then type envy in the shell after you login in console press 1 after install is done, type startx and try running the game
[12:25] <john> login after your in text mode
[12:26] <john> type envy after you  login
[12:26] <john> type; envy
[12:26] <john> select option 1
[12:26] <wily> hi all
[12:26] <john> after the install
[12:26] <john> type startx
[12:26] <john> and try running the game again
[12:26] <wily> i've a big compilation error
[12:26] <wily> anyone can help me?
[12:28] <vas> hey whenever I playa file in amarok it says playlist finished and does nothing
[12:28] <john> wily: depends
[12:29] <vas> ?
[12:30] <wily> take a look please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7860/
[12:31] <lee_> John: thank you so much, installed the drivers and the game ran
[12:31] <lee_> but theres no sound
[12:31] <john> wily: this is while making the kernel?
[12:32] <john> oh no modules for kernel
[12:32] <john> lee_: depends on which sound server your using
[12:32] <lee_> I use the onboard sound on my motherboard, do I need to install drivers? I diddnt need to install drivers for my ethernet which is also built in?
[12:32] <john> but you should have sound
[12:32] <lee_> well I get sound when I do something dumb in konsole and it beeps so it should be working
[12:32] <john> lee_: do you have sound when you just play music?
[12:32] <wily> john
[12:32] <john> wily: ?
[12:32] <wily> i'm using a <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:33] <vas> hasnt this happnd to someone else before?
[12:33] <lee_> john: yeah I can play mp3s
[12:33] <john> vas: can't say it did to me
[12:33] <vas> john: I just tried to open a file and it says playlist complete
[12:33] <vas> john: out of the box
[12:33] <john> weird
[12:34] <john> got the latest amarok?
[12:34] <wily> john: there are u?
[12:34] <vas> john: yes, it came with my Kubuntu live CD'
[12:34] <vas> john: tried a few different audio files too
[12:34] <eric> i cant find any good disk imaging software
[12:34] <john> wily: what do you mean?
[12:34] <eric> : /
[12:35] <wily> i don't know what are problem?
[12:35] <john> vas: weird i haven't run into that
[12:35] <wily> i've headers
[12:35] <wily> and sources
[12:35] <john> well i can tell you that the module dvb-firesat.ko isn't created
[12:35] <john> do you need that module?
[12:35] <wily> but i miss some drivers...... firesat.. etcetc
[12:36] <john> lee_: im not sure why there is no sound in the game
[12:36] <john> try and adjust sound settings
[12:36] <john> wily: do you need that driver/module firesat?
[12:36] <wily> yes
[12:37] <neptunepink> when I update, I get windows complaining about incorrect nice values
[12:39] <john> wily the error is ignored
[12:39] <john> so technically the kernel is installed
[12:39] <john> unless you ABSOLUTELY need that module to be built
[12:40] <eric> does anyone know any good disk imaging software???
[12:40] <john> acrons true image
[12:40] <john> acronis :/
[12:40] <eric> its not free...
[12:40] <eric> : P
[12:41] <john> lol
[12:41] <john> thats true
[12:41] <john> :P
[12:45] <eric> yea i cant find anything
[12:45] <john> :?
[12:45] <john> there are ways to make it "free"
[12:45] <eric> haha yea know that
[12:45] <eric> but its usually just one windows
[12:45] <eric> on*
[12:45] <john> yeah.....
[12:45] <xero_> does knetwork manager use dhclient
[12:45] <john> yes
[12:45] <john> i think
[12:45] <john> almost positive
[12:48] <xerroz> hmm that needs to change
[12:48] <eric> someone just sent me a link
[12:48] <eric> ghost for linux
[12:48] <eric> im gonna try that out
[12:48] <eric> http://freshmeat.net/projects/g4l/
[12:48] <xerroz> cant find 'dhclient' anywhere in the source..
[12:48] <xerroz> hmm
[12:49] <posingaspopular> whats the command to get firefox in the konsole?
[12:49] <posingaspopular> sudo apt-get install firefox?
[12:49] <john> i think
[12:49] <posingaspopular> john: let me try
[12:49] <john> it or mozilla-firefox
[12:49] <Morbo> Try that.  It might be mozillla-firefox
[12:50] <Morbo> er, what john said
[12:53] <posingaspopular> john: mozilla firefox sounds more right
[12:53] <posingaspopular> i finally got off that GNOME garbage
[12:53] <Morbo> apt-cache search foo is useful
[12:53] <posingaspopular> was running a live cd for like 2 weeks
[12:53] <posingaspopular> and now im installing kubuntu over the old ubuntu partition
[12:53] <Morbo> Welcome to the light side, my friend ;)
[12:53] <posingaspopular> Morbo: welcome BACK to the light side
[12:53] <john> lol, i love gnome, just not enough integration for my taste
[12:53] <Morbo> Whatever :p
[12:53] <Morbo> I mostly like KDE for the control
[12:53] <posingaspopular> Morbo: its still great to be on kde again
[12:53] <posingaspopular> how do you do apt-cache
[12:53] <Morbo> Just from konsole
[12:53] <Morbo> apt-cache search foobar where foobar is a package name / description to look for
[12:53] <john> sudo apt-cache search foo
[12:53] <Dekans> posingaspopular: why not install kubuntu-desktop ?
[12:53] <Morbo> sudo isn't necessary for searches
[12:53] <posingaspopular> Dekans: i didnt have enough space
[12:53] <xerroz> is dhclient somehow to be the default?
[12:53] <john> xerroz: as far as i know yes, cause dhcpcd doesn't exist in konsole
[12:54] <Jucato> "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[12:54] <xerroz> O.o
[12:54] <xerroz> 'in konsole'
[12:54] <bomber> how can i tell which ver of kubuntu i have?
[12:54] <Jucato> !version | bomber
[12:54] <ubotu> bomber: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[12:54] <john> xerroz: if you do dhcpcd in konsole the command doesn't exist even under sudo so dhcpclient has to be the default
[12:55] <bomber> !version
[12:55] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[12:55] <bomber> woops
[12:59] <xerroz> how long have you been using linux John?
[12:59] <posingaspopular> Jucato: thanks
[12:59] <john> 2 or 3 years i don't remember
[12:59] <xerroz> Ah, I see
[12:59] <posingaspopular> Jucato: now if you can fix girls to do as i want, i'll be set. kthanksbye
[12:59] <john> dhcpcd used to be the old method of aquiring addresses, dhcpclient is the new method
[12:59] <Jucato> posingaspopular: sure. kickbanbye :)
[12:59] <xerroz> 'dhclient'
[12:59] <john> yeah :P
[12:59] <john> lol
[12:59] <bomber> Jucato:  version not found
[12:59] <posingaspopular> that'll work to
[12:59] <Morbo> ah, katapult
[12:59] <Morbo> So sexy.
[12:59] <Jucato> bomber: did you enter "lsb_release -a"?
[12:59] <bomber> no
[12:59] <Jucato> bomber: then you didn't follow the instructions the bot gave
[12:59] <Jucato>  <ubotu> bomber: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[12:59] <xerroz> bomber: in a terminal type lsb, hit tab, and complete with -a
[12:59] <bomber> ok... dapper is old?
[12:59] <Jucato> it's not *that* old... but it's LTS
[12:59] <Jucato> !lts
[12:59] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[12:59] <Morbo> Edgy is the latest, but Dapper is the "more stable" one
[12:59] <bomber> ahhh ok
[01:00] <xerroz> and feisty is for those of us who enjoy torture
[01:00] <Morbo> I never noticed any stability issues in Edgy
[01:00] <bomber> i was trying to get a tv card working and had no luck... i was wondering if a newer kernel would do the trick
[01:00] <Morbo> bomber- What kind?
[01:00] <lee_> does anyone know why sound wouldnt work in americas army?
[01:00] <bomber> bt878
[01:01] <Morbo> Do you know what driver that uses?
[01:05] <Morbo> v4l or ivtv or something else?
[01:05] <Morbo> bomber- /\
[01:05] <bomber> v4l-dvb
[01:05] <Morbo> ooh, dvb
[01:05] <john> lee_: google it only thing i can think of
[01:05] <Morbo> I've been considering getting a card from pchdtv as soon as I pick up some extra cash
[01:05] <bomber> im in the linuxtv channel and we tryed for a couple hours with no luck
[01:05] <Morbo> Ouch.
[01:05] <waspius> hello can someone tell me how i can make my usb devices mount automaticaly?
[01:05] <Morbo> Oh sweet.  Feisty has ivtv drivers oout of the box.
[01:05] <Morbo> <3
[01:05] <bomber> what about v4l?
[01:06] <zen-soto> !mark
[01:06] <ubotu> Mark "sabdfl" Shuttleworth is our favourite cosmonaut, the founder of Canonical and the primary driver behind Ubuntu. You can find pieces of his thinking at http://www.markshuttleworth.com
[01:06] <Morbo> Isn't v4l part of the kernel now?
[01:09] <yamen_> why cannot i connect to wpa wireless network using Knetworkmanager ?
[01:09] <yamen_> it stops at 28%
[01:09] <yamen_> aby ideas ?
[01:09] <yamen_> *any
[01:10] <Minataku> yamen_: Check dmesg > dmesg | less
[01:10] <Minataku> Then start looking around the bottom since the top is all from bootup
[01:10] <yamen_> ummm... sory im newbie with all that
[01:11] <Minataku> You can paste the whole thing to a pastebin then and I'll look over it for you
[01:11] <Jucato> tail?
[01:11] <yamen_> how to do that ? :)
[01:11] <Minataku> Jucato: I was erring on the side of caution
[01:11] <Jucato> yep
[01:11] <Jucato> anyway....
[01:11] <Minataku> yamen_: Well, to give me the last 10 lines, in a terminal type "dmesg | tail"
[01:12] <Minataku> Then highlight it and put it into the pastebin
[01:12] <Minataku> !pastebin | yamen_
[01:12] <ubotu> yamen_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:12] <Minataku> Jucato: Wait
[01:12] <Minataku> Guess what
[01:12] <gokuh> hi guys
[01:12] <Minataku> Aw, he's gone already
[01:13] <zen-soto> hi jucato
[01:13] <Morbo> What?
[01:13] <Minataku> lol
[01:13] <Minataku> Heya, Morbo
[01:13] <Morbo> hey
[01:13] <Minataku> Finally, on my 7th attempt... a working Debian install
[01:14] <Morbo> I'm much too lazy to install Debian.
[01:14] <Minataku> Mahoro, my P1MMX-166 is running Debian 4.0
[01:14] <gokuh> i need a litle help here =S, someone know, why i can't keep my configuration on kde? =S
[01:15] <premier_> I just blasted my laptop's fans with compressed air, and then I restarted my computer, and when I restarted, the thing ran a disk check
[01:15] <premier_> It said "/dev/sda3 has been mounted 30 times without a check, check forced"  Is that normal?
[01:16] <Morbo> It's a routine check
[01:16] <Minataku> premier_: Perfectly normal
[01:17] <Minataku> It's preventative maintenance
[01:17] <Minataku> Mine never hits the mount limit
[01:17] <premier_> oh I see
[01:17] <Minataku> It always trips the time limit instead
[01:17] <Minataku> Which is around 180d
[01:17] <Minataku> In fact, Piyoko is probably due for another check soon
[01:17] <Minataku> lol
[01:17] <Morbo> What's Piyoko?
[01:17] <Morbo> As in, where'd the name come from?
[01:18] <premier_> It just scared the s*** out of me, because when I booted it up, grub gave me a prompt.  I think I just pressed the wrong button though.
[01:18] <Minataku> Di Gi Charat
[01:18] <Minataku> premier_: Heehee, calm down ^^
[01:18] <premier_> well, my computer is running about 15C cooler now, glad I did that
[01:18] <Minataku> Indeed
[01:18] <Morbo> Nice
[01:19] <Morbo> My hostnames are a bit arbitrary
[01:19] <Minataku> Cleaning is very good
[01:19] <Morbo> No unifying theme, etc
[01:19] <Minataku> Morbo: Mine are all anime characters
[01:19] <premier_> Minataku: is it safe to unscrew the devices on the bottom of my laptop and blast them with compressed air?
 Morbo: Mine are all anime characters <-- I would have never guess that [/sarcasm]  :D
[01:19] <Morbo> premier_- It could void your warranty
[01:20] <Minataku> premier_: I have to unscrew the panels on the bottom of Piyoko to blast the dust out
[01:20] <Morbo> laptop = zoidberg, desktop = feynman, router = serenity
[01:20] <house> can someone help me get gtkpod to see my ipod I have googled it and there are multiple conflicting guides
[01:20] <premier_> hmmm...
[01:21] <Morbo> the dedicated mythtv box I'll build sometime soon will be Navras, NAS will be Mjolnir
[01:21] <premier_> Now my temperature is way up in the rafters again
[01:21] <gugu^> HELP to install my Canon LBP-810
[01:21] <Minataku> I have: Piyoko, Ryoko, Hazuki, Mahoro, Minataku, Sasuke, Dejiko, Komugi, Koyori, Haruko, Usada and a couple with no names
[01:22] <premier_> It think I might have broke the fan.  It was really hot when I first booted it, and then It came back down to 34 (never been that low before) and now its up to the 60s, no load
[01:22] <Jucato> Minataku-san! Minataku-san!!
[01:22] <Minataku> lol
[01:22] <Minataku> Another Di Gi Charat character
[01:22] <Minataku> Minagawa Takuro I believe is his real name
[01:23] <Jucato> :D
[01:23] <Jucato> going away now... you guys behave :P
[01:23] <Minataku> lol
[01:23] <Minataku> I'll try
[01:23] <premier_> Now its coming back down.   Not one bit
[01:24] <premier_> Dell E1705, aka 9600
[01:24] <Minataku> Figures
[01:24] <house> has anyone ever used gtkpod with kubuntu?
[01:25] <Minataku> Get a Toshiba next time
[01:25] <Minataku> Can't go wrong with Toshiba
[01:25] <premier_> What is it with Toshibas?
[01:25] <premier_> Anyway, Im gonna build my own computer
[01:25] <Minataku> That list up there, 4 of them are Toshibas
[01:25] <Minataku> From 1987 up to 2003
[01:25] <Minataku> All in perfect working condition
[01:26] <premier_> lol.  Do you know whats a good video card?  The newer ATI cards (like the one Im using) have a lot of trouble with linux, but Ive heard bad things about nVidia too
[01:27] <Minataku> Until we get word that AMD turns ATI around, nVidia.  I'm going to be buying a tv tuner card for use with mythtv and ubuntu soon and I was wondering if anybody knew of any cardbus tuner cards with hardware decoders supported by linux
[01:31] <Minataku> It'll be that third value
[01:32] <Minataku> After "Linux" and your system's node name
[01:34] <jose> hello
[01:35] <acr> hello jose
[01:35] <jose> how can i install themes en kubuntu?
[01:35] <premier_> Minataku: or anyone whos listening: I have an external hard drive.  When I try to delete files from it, it puts it in a trash folder that I cant empty.  How do I fix that?
[01:35] <house> I am trying to get my ipod working with gtkpod, the read me says to edit /etc/udev/udev.rules
[01:35] <acr> jose: I think it depends on the theme, but in general you have to download the source code and follow the instructions in the INSTALL file. What theme did you have in mind?
[01:36] <house> and Idont have that file
[01:36] <Minataku> premier_: I delete things from the command line
[01:36] <gugu^> HELP to install my Canon LBP-810
[01:36] <jose> say VistaGo.kth
[01:36] <Minataku> premier_: So unfortunately I can't help you with that
[01:36] <jose> is GTK
[01:37] <Ingmar^> how do I get the default kubuntu theme back ?
[01:37] <acr> jose: can you link me to it? I don't think you can install gtk themes for kubuntu. Maybe you can make gtk applications look that way, but I don't think it'll work for kde applications
[01:38] <acr> Ingmar^: the default kubuntu theme is Plastik
[01:38] <premier_> Minataku: I think my usb bus just lost power or something.  my usb mouse wont respond, and the little green light wont go on, and neither will my jump drive.  This happens all the time
[01:38] <acr> Ingmar^: go to System Settings > Style and choose plastik
[01:38] <Minataku> premier_: Check dmesg for anything
[01:39] <Minataku> dmesg | tail should show something in that case
[01:39] <acr> Ingmar^: the default window decoration, if you want to change that back as well, is Crystal, but I'm not 100% sure on that one
[01:39] <premier_> yeah, can I paste bin it?
[01:40] <Minataku> premier_: Be my guest
[01:40] <lotus> hi
[01:41] <acr> hello. I'm going to be buying a tv tuner card for use with mythtv and ubuntu soon and I was wondering if anybody knew of any cardbus tuner cards with hardware decoders supported by linux. If not, is there anywhere I can find cardbus tv tuner cards for linux. They mythtv site doesn't have any listed as far as I can tell
[01:41] <acr> hi lotus
[01:41] <premier_> http://pastebin.ca/375106
[01:41] <Ingmar^> acr: thanks, that seems to work
[01:41] <lotus> I am a linux beginner, and I have troubles with installing the proper driver for my graphik card
[01:41] <acr> Ingmar^: my pleasure :-)
[01:41] <Ingmar^> acr: can you tell me how I reset the kicker settings too ?
[01:41] <lotus> It is a S3 Savage Card
[01:42] <acr> Ingmar^: what settings are messed up?
[01:42] <Ingmar^> the problem is that I installed another distro, that overwrote most of my config files at ~/.kde (mail is still there etc, else I'd just delete the folder
[01:42] <acr> Ingmar^: as far as I know, if you right-click on it and go to configure panel most of the options are there
[01:42] <Minataku> premier_: Hm... no clues in there
[01:43] <premier_> damn.
[01:43] <acr> ingmar^: what specifically do you want to change?
[01:43] <Minataku> Probably just the usual Dell wuality
[01:43] <premier_> sorry language
[01:43] <Minataku> Damn is fine
[01:43] <Minataku> At least it damn well better be
[01:43] <Minataku> lol
[01:43] <premier_> Minataku: Is there anything I can do besides power-cycling?
[01:43] <Minataku> I'm not gonna fix that typo because it works that much better when it's "Dell wuality"
[01:43] <Minataku> XD
[01:44] <Ingmar^> acr: kicker is totally empty, no programicon's appear there, no menu, no clock, no nothing
[01:44] <house> can someone please please help me get my ipod working with gtkpod?
[01:44] <Minataku> premier_: No clue, to be honest, sorry
[01:44] <acr> lotus:
[01:44] <lotus> is there a good tutorial howto install graphik drivers for S3?
[01:44] <acr> Ingmar^: oh, right click and go to 'Add applet to panel'
[01:44] <Minataku> house: I'd help, but I don't know >.<
[01:44] <sc0tch> Question: With Linux-headers package installed, I see it has headers for ALL sorts of processeors (arm, mips,v850..on an on), if I am only compiling for i386 is there a safe way to prune all those extra files out?
[01:44] <acr> most of the stuff is there
[01:44] <premier_> Minataku: I was thinking of how walus, a, um means something in latin (bad i think)
[01:44] <Ingmar^> acr: that's it, thanks
[01:45] <Minataku> premier_: Ah... I just hit the wrong key, then I thought of an old Dilbert comic strip
[01:45] <acr> lotus: it looks like the package for that card is 'xserver-xorg-video-savage'
[01:45] <Minataku> Where they made keyboards without the letter "Q"
[01:45] <acr> lotus: if you install that, then change your driver to 'savage' (I think), it should work
[01:45] <acr> Ingmar^: no problem. You don't happen to know about cardbus tv tuners on linux, do you?
[01:46] <Ingmar^> acr: afraid not :( pity I can't help you back
[01:46] <acr> lotus: I'm not entirely sure, I've never dealt with that card, just my nvidia
[01:46] <Minataku> Then Dilbert is like "The Q stands for uality"
[01:46] <Minataku> XD
[01:47] <acr> Ingmar^: oh well. I'm glad I could help you. That's not often the case. Is there anything else I can do for you?
[01:47] <jack> hi how can i enable to send text messages from the linux skype version?
[01:47] <Ingmar^> acr: that should be it, thank you very much :)
[01:47] <acr> Ingmar^: welcome
[01:48] <acr> does anybody know anything about cardbus tv tuner cards on linux?
[01:48] <Minataku> Sorry, not a clue
[01:49] <acr> Minataku: :-( I haven't been able to find anything, even on the mythtv site. And manufacturers don't list whether or not they support linux. Except for happuage, I'm not sure if anybody does, and I don't see any cardbus cards from them
[01:51] <house> in the gtkpod readme it says to make this file and save as /etc/udev/rules  BUS="scsi", SYSFS{model}="iPod            ", KERNEL="sd?2", NAME="%k", SYMLINK="ipod"
[01:51] <house> is that an example or is that how i should put it
[01:51] <house> exactly
[01:52] <Minataku> Even I've never touched udev so far
[01:52] <house> AAAARRRGGGHHHHH
[01:52] <Minataku> Sorry >.<
[01:52] <house> I just want to use my ipod in linux
[01:52] <house> it is very frustrating
[01:52] <Minataku> house: Hang around here for a bit
[01:52] <house> K
[01:52] <Minataku> Someone should show up sooner or later who can help you out
[01:53] <acr> this might be a dumb question, but are there usually extra pci(e) slots in a laptop?
[01:53] <Morbo> No.
[01:53] <Morbo> Well, PCMCIA slots yeah
[01:53] <Morbo> And whatever the PCI(e) equivalent is
[01:54] <Minataku> acr: Not since laptops were the size of a desktop and weighed 15lbs
[01:54] <Morbo> It might have a MiniPCI slot, but that's probably in use by the network card
[01:54] <Minataku> And even then the card slot was half-size
[01:54] <acr> so if I wanted to install a tv tuner card internally, it would have be a cardbus card?
[01:54] <Minataku> MiniPCI perhaps, yeah, I forgot about that
[01:54] <Minataku> acr: Depends
[01:54] <Minataku> Whether or not there is a free MiniPCI slot or not
[01:57] <flake> remind me never to compile koffice from scratch again, took well over 1 hour
[01:58] <slyfox> Has anyone managed to sync their phone with their Kontact? Because of this small but crucial issue, I am thinking of going Windows and leaving Linux, which I really do not want to do. :-(
[01:58] <Minataku> flake: Wimp >.>
[01:58] <flake> lol
[01:58] <Minataku> Sorry XD
[01:58] <Minataku> Compile time means long break
[01:58] <Minataku> :D
[01:58] <Minataku> Set things in motion, take a nap
[01:59] <acr> I just found a card reader on my laptop. I put my cameras sd card in and everything's fine, but is there a way to set digikam up to get pictures from it just like it does from the camera itself?
[02:00] <flake> the anticipation was painful
[02:00] <Minataku> lol
[02:04] <flake> koffice 1.6.3pre - not lookin too bad
[02:05] <lotusleaf> lotus_: who are you?
[02:06] <house> has anyone here used gtkpod?
[02:08] <jack_> could anyone help me how to send texts from linux skype or from linux in general?
[02:09] <jmichaelx> i am having a big problem getting sun-java6-bin installed. if someone could help me out, i would appreciate it. i am getting these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7875/
[02:10] <bordy> Anyone know how to fix an apparent problem with X?
[02:10] <house> does anybody here use their ipod with kubuntu?
[02:11] <Adydas> bordy: what problem
[02:11] <Adydas> house: i hear amaroks good for working with ipods
[02:11] <Adydas> i have it but aint tryed it
[02:12] <jmichaelx> i have never been able to get amarok to transfer files onto  my ipod video
[02:13] <bordy> Adydas: Flock opens and closes right away, and debugging is showing some sort of X error
[02:13] <Adydas> bordy: whats your log say, any clues there?
[02:14] <Adydas> look /var/log/Xorg.0.log ib elive
[02:14] <bordy> Adydas: I am looking through it now, but NO clue. lol
[02:14] <Adydas> look for (EE)
[02:14] <Adydas> as that indicates an error, that would be my best starting point
[02:15] <bordy> I see them down at the bottom, alot of "no such file or directory"
[02:16] <acr> what's exiv2?
[02:17] <gugu^> HELP to install my Canon LBP-810
[02:17] <epimeth> ahoy!
[02:17] <bordy> Adydas: Any ideas?
[02:18] <dx11101> hello, i need more sata ports on my computer, does anyone know of a sata card that is compatible with linux?
[02:18] <epimeth> anybody know the status of the auto codec downloading thing for feisty?
[02:18] <Adydas> bordy:
[02:18] <jmichaelx> i am having a big problem getting sun-java6-bin installed. if someone could help me out, i would appreciate it. i am getting these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7875/
[02:18] <Adydas> !paste
[02:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:19] <Adydas> bordy: paste both the xorg.conf and the log into that if i cant im sure somone can help you
[02:20] <bordy> Adydas: the log is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7876/
[02:21] <Adydas> bordy: you sure x is installed?
[02:21] <bordy> not at all
[02:21] <Adydas> im not sure, but those " no fonts folder " errors seem to tell me its not installed
[02:21] <Adydas> hence why it cant load the stuff it needs
[02:21] <bordy> I am only guessing that since this is what happened last time this happened to me (but that was when I upgraded to Ubuntu 6.10)
[02:22] <jmichaelx> :-(
[02:24] <jack_> how can i send text messages from ubuntu as there seems to be no feature to do it from skype?
[02:24] <Adydas> do you have an xorg.conf file?
[02:24] <bordy> %c2Adydas: I did sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati and it said it is already the newest version
[02:24] <bordy> oops on the format
[02:24] <house> anyone here know how to get gtkpod working?
[02:26] <Adydas> im guessing you should need this xserver-xorg-core
[02:26] <Adydas> check thats there.. i just hope my guess on thats accurate
[02:26] <Adydas> well firstly
[02:26] <Adydas> do you have a /etc/X11 folder?
[02:26] <Adydas> and in there is there a conf file?
[02:26] <bordy> yes
[02:27] <Adydas> ok that answers that
[02:27] <Adydas> did it work before you did the drivers for ati?
[02:27] <Adydas> or has it never worked?
[02:27] <bordy> everything works except Flock. when i upgraded ubuntu before i switched over, this problem happened with firefox and flock, but this time just flock
[02:27] <bordy> not even positive it is an X issue
[02:27] <phil_> was wondering if there's an easy way to get kubuntu up & running on an SGI 540
[02:27] <bordy> but it seems the most likely
[02:28] <dx11101> anyone know a cheap sata controller that will work in linux
[02:29] <shriphani> guys i am using kubuntu 6.06. what package should i download that will give me the ruby header files
[02:29] <bordy> Adydas: xorg.conf is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7878/
[02:35] <CShadowRun> whats the command to install kubuntu ? (im using normal ubuntu now)
[02:36] <shriphani> CShadowRun: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[02:36] <CShadowRun> thanks :)
[02:36] <jmichaelx> i am having a big problem getting sun-java6-bin installed. if someone could help me out, i would appreciate it. i am getting these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7875/
[02:39] <gugu^> HELP to install  Canon LBP-810 printer
[02:41] <jmichaelx> the mistake i made (i think) was going into adept, telling it to uninstall sun-java5-*, and then telling it to install sun-java6-*
[02:43] <acr> dumb question; pci isn't the same thing as pcmcia, right? But PC Card, cardbus and pcmcia are all the same?
[02:44] <dx11101> PCI is not the same
[02:44] <acr> and are the rest of them all equivelant?
[02:44] <dx11101> i am not sure, i dont use laptops much
[02:44] <jack_> how can i enable a tag button in the konqueror just like in windows for the firefox using delicious?
[02:44] <dx11101> here
[02:45] <dx11101> "In computing, PC card (originally PCMCIA card) i"
[02:46] <dx11101> Cardbus is PCMCIA 5.0 or later
[02:47] <acr> but they all use the same slot?
[02:47] <dx11101> i dont think so
[02:47] <dx11101> mostly type II which is common to all laptops right now
[02:47] <dx11101> whats the problem?
[02:48] <dx11101> arc
[02:48] <dx11101> just read this page and then see if you have questions
[02:48] <acr> I'm looking for a tv tuner card that will fit into the slot on my laptop, which is a pc card slot
[02:48] <dx11101> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pcmcia
[02:49] <dx11101> now what i need is info on sata controller cards in linux
[02:51] <cesarmat> hola
[02:51] <dx11101> hola senior
[02:51] <cesarmat> alguien sabe codificar videos de avia mpeg_
[02:51] <CShadowRun> hmm with installing xgl and beryl
[02:52] <CShadowRun> are they 2 seperate applications, do i have to install them in a specific order?
[02:54] <boitono> I'm getting an X with in a circle as a pointer when hovering over the launcher panel, how can I change that?
[02:59] <boitono> Hello!?
[03:00] <norbert> using a Feisty Herd-4 alternative cd, will I be able to install the system w/o corrupting my /home data? System is currently running with 2 raids: / and /home
[03:00] <cesarmat> how can convert avi to mpeg video files
[03:00] <cesarmat> HOW
[03:01] <norbert> More specifically, should I let feisty know about the /home during install. Or should I just manually set it up afterwards?
[03:01] <dx11101> i think linux is COOOL!
[03:02] <Darkkish> norbert i don't have much linux experience but, if i were you, i'd manually set it up after its installed
[03:02] <Darkkish> logically there is less chance of failure
[03:02] <cesarmat> if you set it up manually in a different partition
[03:02] <vblanton> hello, is anyone else having issues with the new kde4 beta 3 packages?
[03:03] <cesarmat> you can format your so partition without losing your HOME files
[03:03] <andz> hi, can anyone help me configure my audio system? I have 2 sound boards installed
[03:03] <cesarmat> i think...
[03:03] <dx11101> newegg pisses me off, they dont have any molex to sata power adapterS!!!!!!!!!
[03:03] <jhutchins> cesarmat: mplayer/mencoder, ffmpeg, avidemux is a nice GUI.
[03:03] <vblanton> dx11101, amazon or ebay?
[03:03] <jhutchins> Cinellera
[03:03] <cristian> hola chicos tengo una pregunta que hacerles.. alguien sabe como hacer que no me muestre en un escritorio en la barra de tareas las ventanas que tengo abiertas en otra ventana??
[03:03] <cesarmat> thanx...
[03:03] <jhutchins> dx11101: pricewatch.com
[03:04] <dx11101> maybe my search parameters are bad
[03:04] <jhutchins> cesarmat: Lots of good stuff about transcoding in linux on google.
[03:04] <vblanton> andz, sorry don't know much on configuring two cards, but have you tried working with the sound setup utility available in the control panel?
[03:04] <Jucato> !es | cristian
[03:04] <ubotu> cristian: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:04] <dx11101> ever since i started working and had lots of money i never looked at pricewatch again lol
[03:04] <vblanton> andz, also, you can try looking in the ubuntu wiki or forums
[03:04] <andz> thanks VBLANTON, Ide like to switch the main audio that Kubuntu chose.
[03:05] <jhutchins> andz: I'd recommend disabling one and getting the other working first.  Do you need both to be availble?
[03:05] <vblanton> hello, is anyone else having issues with the new kde4 beta 3 packages?
[03:05] <norbert> Darkkish: can't argue with that logic. ;-)  I was just curious, because I remember a "don't format" button on the installer. On the other hand, I wonder if I'll have to jump many loops to get an existing raid recognized by the new system
[03:05] <andz> it chose the onboeard, but Id like to use the other one, that is second on the row
[03:05] <jhutchins> norbert: Look around and make sure the RAID controller's supported in Linux.
[03:05] <Jucato> vblanton: aside from it being a "for developers' only" preview?
[03:05] <vblanton> Jucato, no, it doesn't even install
[03:06] <vblanton> Jucato, that is, yes
[03:06] <jmichaelx> i am having a big problem getting sun-java6-bin installed. if someone could help me out, i would appreciate it. i am getting these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7875/
[03:06] <norbert> jhutchins: it's a software Linux RAID. I'm just formatting the /root and installing feisty on it
[03:06] <andz> actually, id even prefere that the onboard sound card is disabled because i dont like it
[03:06] <jhutchins> vblanton: I would hope people are having issues with it.  That's the only reason it's available, so people can find and report problems.
[03:06] <vblanton> Jucato, on package is trying to overwrite another and there is breakage
[03:06] <vblanton> no, it's a packaging issue
[03:06] <jhutchins> norbert: Oh.
[03:07] <jhutchins> vblanton: Or ask in #kde, where you'll be told to run subversion or 3.5.6.
[03:07] <Jucato> jmichaelx: try this command "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[03:07] <Jucato> jhutchins: er, he musn't ask that in #kde
[03:08] <jhutchins> Yeah, they don't like questions regarding binary packages.
[03:08] <Jucato> yes, because KDE doesn't provide binary packages
[03:08] <boitono> I'm getting an X with in a circle as a pointer when hovering over the launcher panel, how can I change that?
[03:08] <Jucato> and he'll only be told that the snapshots are useless to a non-developer
[03:08] <Jucato> which is also true
[03:09] <andz> thank you for the help
[03:09] <vblanton> jhutchins, Jucato, Im trying to say that the error is kubuntu's not kde's. the packages weren't made correctly!
[03:09] <Jucato> vblanton: I know. I was talking to jhutchins for the latter part
[03:09] <CShadowRun> hmm, just installing kubuntu
[03:09] <vblanton> why are you both assuming that I'm not helping out with KDE4?
[03:09] <Jucato> vblanton: that's why I told you to ask in #kubuntu-devel, as they are the ones making the binary packages
[03:10] <dx11101> newegg is a shipping RIPOFF
[03:10] <jmichaelx> Jucato: does not help
[03:10] <CShadowRun> it says "General type of configuration?" No configuration | Internet Site | Internet with smarthost | Satallite system | Local only
[03:10] <vblanton> Jucato, thanks, im waiting for a response there
[03:10] <jhutchins> vblanton: It remains that the only reason the packages are available is so that you can find these problems and report them.  Nobody expects you to be able to have a stable working environment with kde4.
[03:10] <CShadowRun> what should i choose? im useing adsl, via a router for my internet
[03:10] <vblanton> jhutchins, i don't think you understand, but thanks for your help anyway
[03:10] <cesarmat> why when i scroll down any page, in any program like firefox, openoffice, etc... it isnt smooth
[03:11] <cesarmat> it gets slow...
[03:11] <jhutchins> Chousuke: Go with local.
[03:11] <jhutchins> er. CShadowRun
[03:11] <Jucato> vblanton: I didn't assume.  question. you also have to understand that there are many, many users trying to install it for the sole purpose of curiousity
[03:11] <CShadowRun> [jhutchins-> ?
[03:11] <jmichaelx> i wish i knew what the "broken pipe" thing was about
[03:11] <boitono> I'm getting an X with in a circle as a pointer when hovering over the launcher panel, how can I change that?
[03:11] <jhutchins> CShadowRun: Go with "local".
[03:11] <CShadowRun> [jhutchins-> thanks :)
[03:11] <Jucato> jmichaelx: try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[03:11] <vblanton> you can set smooth scrolling in firefox, CShadowRun . the option is in the advanced part of the config options (i think)
[03:11] <dx11101> okay
[03:11] <cesarmat> i did, but its the same
[03:12] <dx11101> i will now go from 1.5TB to 2TB
[03:12] <jhutchins> jmichaelx: http://www.google.com/search?q=broken+pipe&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[03:12] <guiden> seriously, what should I do, I can't play avi movie files
[03:12] <vblanton> Jucato, which is fine as well. curiosity is how a lot of people start helping out a project!
[03:12] <jhutchins> guiden: 1) install mplayer
[03:12] <boitono> NEED SOME DAMN PLEASE :-)   I'm getting an X with in a circle as a pointer when hovering over the launcher panel, how can I change that?
[03:12] <dx11101> guiden
[03:12] <dx11101> apt-get install mplayer
[03:12] <jhutchins> !mp3 | guiden
[03:12] <ubotu> guiden: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:12] <guiden> I have kaffiene
[03:12] <dx11101> kaffiene sux
[03:13] <vblanton> kaffiene rox
[03:13] <jhutchins> guiden: Which is why you can't play avi files.  Install mplayer.
[03:13] <Jucato> vblanton: true, but not w/ current KDE 4 snapshots. as it will take more than "I want to see what KDE 4 *looks* like, which is currently nothing but a broken KDE 3 in terms of appearance
[03:13] <vblanton> 0.8 was a great improvement!
[03:13] <vblanton> Jucato, that is true :)
[03:13] <guiden> can I play avi files in kaffiene after I downloaded mplayer?
[03:13] <vblanton> well.. i've recieved no response in kubuntu-devel.. trying the bug tracker
[03:13] <dx11101> maybe the AVI files hes trying to play are propriatary
[03:13] <dx11101> like DIVX or something
[03:13] <Jucato> !patience | vblanton
[03:13] <ubotu> vblanton: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:13] <vblanton> guiden, check restricted formats, that will set you up completely
[03:14] <vblanton> !restrictedformats
[03:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:14] <jhutchins> guiden: Have a look at those three pages, but I think you'll find it's easier to get mplayer working than to get kaffeine working.
[03:14] <jack_> hi, the delicious submenu from koquerorer doesnt really work, can anyone recommend how to work with delicious and konq.?
[03:14] <guiden> ok
[03:14] <jack_> is there a way to send text messages from kubuntu? skype has this feature not enabled?
[03:14] <jhutchins> jack_: Um, yeah, use firefox.
[03:14] <guiden> does mplayer have a gui?
[03:14] <jmichaelx> hmm, i can't figure any of this out
[03:14] <vblanton> jack_, check forums, that kind of stuff is discussed there more so
[03:14] <Jucato> guiden: yes
[03:14] <jhutchins> jack_: It's a known broken, it doesn't _really_ work right in anything but IE on Windows.
[03:14] <Jucato> jack_: there are some apps from http://kde-apps.org for del.icio.us... but the one I'm using needs to be compiled
[03:15] <vblanton> jack_, kopete is an instant message client
[03:15] <vblanton> jack_, or you can install gaim, which I like best :)
[03:15] <jhutchins> guiden: Yes, mplayer-gui and kmplayer.
[03:15] <guiden> ok
[03:15] <Jucato> guiden: you can make Kaffeine use mplayer as its backend instead of xine engine, if you have mplayer installed
[03:16] <guiden> ok
[03:16] <jhutchins> A "broken pipe" basically either means that the sending program didn't send anything, or more likely the program it's piped to didn't accept or receive it.
[03:16] <jhutchins> jmichaelx: A "broken pipe" basically either means that the sending program didn't send anything, or more likely the program it's piped to didn't accept or receive it.
[03:17] <jhutchins> guiden: I can't help you fix kaffeine, because for me it's always been broken in one way or another and I don't bother to spend time with it anymore since mplayer is so powerful.
[03:17] <Jucato> jmichaelx: did you try the last command I gave you? sudo apt-get -f install?
[03:17] <jhutchins> guiden: The other player is VLC, which is even less broken than mplayer, but does some different things.
[03:17] <Jucato> guiden: what seems to be the problem w/ kaffeine?
[03:18] <guiden> I can't play avi, but does mplayer support restricted format out of the box? I can't play mp3 either in amarok
[03:19] <Jucato> guiden: you just need to install "libxine-extracodecs" from the "multiverse" repository, and you're done
[03:19] <jhutchins> guiden: Ok, now I know you haven't read any of the three pages we sent you links to.
[03:19] <hatta> how is mplayer broken?
[03:19] <jhutchins> Jucato: w32codecs?
[03:19] <guiden> I will
[03:19] <Jucato> guiden: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[03:19] <Darkkish> what the hell
[03:19] <Darkkish> did i just hop?
[03:19] <test34> Hhow can I instal MD5 ?
[03:19] <Jucato> jhutchins: not for avi and mp3. w32codecs = wma/wmv, and rm
[03:19] <jmichaelx> Jucato: yes.... i tried both of those commands, and neither helped
[03:20] <jhutchins> Jucato: I loose track.
[03:20] <Jucato> test34: the command is "md5sum" and is installed by default
[03:20] <Jucato> jmichaelx: what command are you using to install sun java?
[03:20] <Jucato> jhutchins: don't worry, you're in good company :D
[03:21] <test34> Jucato, Couldn't find package md5sum
[03:21] <jhutchins> !find md5sum
[03:21] <Jucato> test34: it's not a separate package.
[03:21] <ubotu> File md5sum found in afterstep, atlc, autofs, coreutils, gconf2-common (and 15 others)
[03:21] <jmichaelx> Jucato: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-bin sun-java6-plugin
[03:21] <Jucato> er?
[03:21] <jack_> hi, the delicious submenu from koquerorer doesnt really work, can anyone recommend how to work with delicious and konq.?
[03:21] <Jucato> jmichaelx: remove either sun-java6-jre or sun-java6-bin from that line
[03:21] <jack_> is there a way to send text messages from kubuntu? skype has this feature not enabled?
[03:22] <guiden> lol why don't they release a new iso that specifically says that this contains propitary programs?
[03:22] <Jucato> jmichaelx: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-plugin
[03:22] <Jucato> guiden: if you read the pages, you'd know
[03:22] <jack_> jucato can you help?
[03:22] <jmichaelx> Jucato: why is that??
[03:22] <Jucato> jack_: sorry, no idea
[03:22] <test34> jucato, the ./configure of this program can't find MD5.. maybe its a bug in this program
[03:23] <Jucato> jmichaelx: sun-java6-bin will install sun-java6-jre. sun-java6-jre will install sun-java6-bin... having them both on one command just might be causing trouble... just might.. not sure
[03:23] <jmichaelx> Jucato: ok, will try that
[03:23] <Jucato> test34: hm.. what program are you trying to compile?
[03:24] <test34> Jucato, ZoneMinder
[03:24] <Jucato> hm..
[03:24] <Jucato> must be a different thing...
[03:25] <jmichaelx> Jucato: no, that did not help
[03:25] <Jucato> hm...
[03:25] <Jucato> jhutchins: any ideas about jmichaelx's problem?
[03:25] <jack_> is there a way to send text messages from kubuntu? skype has this feature not enabled?
[03:25] <test34> Jucato, I get zm requires openssl/md5.h
[03:26] <jack_>  hi, the delicious submenu from koquerorer doesnt really work, can anyone recommend how to work with delicious and konq.?
[03:26] <Jucato> jack_: I think there is. but not sure how
[03:26] <Jucato> jack_: did you read what I said earlier about kde-apps.org?
[03:26] <jmichaelx> what i did initially may have been dumb.... i simply un-installed sun-java5-* in adept, then attempted to install sun-java6-*
[03:26] <Jucato> test34: oh... now that's a different matter
[03:27] <jmichaelx> Jucato: after that i even tried it with automatix.... same error
[03:27] <jack_> nope i was disconnected jucato sorry but i found the konqilicious only there, didnt really work for me too
[03:27] <Jucato> jmichaelx: hmm...
[03:27] <test34> Jucato, I need md5-dev or something like this ?
[03:27] <Jucato> jack_: I'm using the bookmarkbar app from kde-apps.org, but needs to be compiled
[03:27] <guiden> there isn't a package called libxine-extracodecs
[03:27] <Jucato> test34: no. libssl-dev
[03:27] <Jucato> guiden: did you enable the multiverse repository as instructed?
[03:28] <guiden> everything is enabled
[03:28] <test34> thanks Jucato
[03:28] <jack_> i'd rather take all my delicious things from win with me, so i can easily swich
[03:28] <Jucato> guiden: you have to add it
[03:28] <guiden> fetched all
[03:28] <Jucato> jack_: try that one I mentioned. so far it's the only thing that worked for me. (del.icio.us + konq)
[03:28] <phil_> hi there, i was wondering what the best way to install (k)ubunto onto an SGI 540 would be
[03:29] <Jucato> guiden: you have to *add* multiverse. it's not there by default
[03:29] <jack_> jucato which one did you mentioned? i was disconnected when you wrote that
[03:29] <Jucato> jack_: I just mentioned it a minute ago
[03:29] <Jucato> [10:28]  <Jucato> jack_: I'm using the bookmarkbar app from kde-apps.org, but needs to be compiled
[03:30] <guiden> but there are two lines that contains multiverse
[03:30] <jack_> ah jucato so app is for delicious? i thought its sth different
[03:30] <Jucato> guiden: those are *not* the correct one
[03:30] <jack_> ok i can compile it thx jucato
[03:30] <Jucato> jack_: it's another sidebar thing for Konqueror
[03:30] <guiden> ok
[03:30] <Jucato> jack_: works better than the one installed by default
[03:31] <guiden> jucato, where do I find the right ones?
[03:31] <Jucato> guiden: edgy or dapper?
[03:32] <guiden> edgy
[03:33] <Jucato> guiden: the line looks something like "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe" **add** (do not replace) "multiverse" at the end of that line
[03:33] <jack_> jucato do you know where it is subcategorized? the entries in the search dont seem to have it
[03:34] <Jucato> jack_: hm?
[03:34] <jack_> i cannot find it in the kde-apps.jucato, the name is "app"?
[03:34] <Jucato> I already gave the name of the app
 [10:28]  <Jucato> jack_: I'm using the bookmarkbar app from kde-apps.org, but needs to be compiled
[03:36] <asfhjkh> does anybody know if archive.ubuntu.com is down?  I can't connect to update my system.
[03:36] <jack_> jucato, i got that so far, jsut on kde-apps. icant find it, thanks however
[03:36] <asfhjkh> I am running edgy kubuntu
[03:36] <Jucato> asfhjkh: which server/mirror are you using?
[03:36] <Jucato> jack_: the name is "bookmarkbar"
[03:37] <asfhjkh> here is the output from 'apt-get update': Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[03:37] <Jucato> jack_: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=26325
[03:37] <asfhjkh> http://archive.ubuntu.com
[03:37] <asfhjkh> I also can't get to it from Firefox.
[03:38] <asfhjkh> all other browsing and even connecting to security.ubuntu.com works...
[03:38] <asfhjkh> can anyone else access http://archive.ubuntu.com ?
[03:38] <dec_> hello, i installed secret maryo chronicles and when I go to open the game, it doesn't respond any ideas of how to check it
[03:40] <Jucato> asfhjkh: works fine here. must be the local server/mirror being used in your sources.list
[03:40] <dec_> asfhjkh: i just checked mine it is ok
[03:44] <asfhjkh> I am going to that exact web site and it doesn't connect... obviously my internet connection works and all other browsing works... what can be the problem??
[03:45] <Jucato> hm... proxy? I think apt-get doesn't like proxies..
[03:46] <asfhjkh> no no proxy, but I am seeing in my firewall that the IP is trying to connect back to me on port 49147... wtf??
[03:47] <asfhjkh> actually no, it is not <IP_ADDRESS> but <IP_ADDRESS> that is trying to connect back to me...
[03:50] <jack_> jucato thanks i searched for "app" , stupid question, does it matter where i download the source file too?
[03:50] <guiden> VLC OWNS! everything else sucks
[03:50] <Jucato> jack_: nope.
[03:50] <jack_> thanks jucato
[03:50] <Jucato> guiden: or... you just didn't know how to make kaffeine work...
[03:51] <Shot> hey does anyone know how to optimise kubuntu for performance
[03:51] <Jucato> with just libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs, kaffeine (using xine) can do almost everything mplayer and vlc can... almost...
[03:52] <guiden> Yes I do but I couldt get the proper libraries
[03:53] <guiden> I know that you have can differenct engines
[03:53] <guiden> or something
[03:53] <Jucato> guiden: you might as well get that multiverse enabled now, as you'll come across the problem again when you try to install flash and java
[03:55] <jack_> jucato it tells me i am missing a lot of things, compilers etc, the final error is
[03:55] <jack_> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[03:55] <jack_> See `config.log' for more details.
[03:55] <guiden> ok done
[03:55] <Jucato> jack_: er thought you knew could compile already
[03:55] <guiden> I don't like these repositories
[03:55] <guiden> why so many
[03:55] <Jucato> !build-essential | jack_
[03:55] <ubotu> jack_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:55] <Jucato> !repositories | guiden
[03:55] <ubotu> guiden: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:56] <Jucato> guiden: there's a link to a page there explaining it
[03:56] <jack_> ok sorry jucato then i didnt want to brag hehe, ok reading
[03:57] <guiden> well I still can't find libxine-extracodecs, and I know that the repository you gave me worked beacouse I downloaded something when i fetched
[03:57] <guiden> because
[03:59] <guiden> jucato, can you find it?
[04:00] <Jucato> guiden: pastebin your sources.list
[04:00] <Jucato> !pastebin | guiden
[04:00] <ubotu> guiden: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:00] <Jucato> guiden: Fetch Updates will always download something, whether or not you have properly enabled the correct repository
[04:01] <guiden> Where is the real file situated?
[04:01] <guiden> how do I open it with nano?
[04:01] <guiden> where
[04:01] <Jucato> guiden: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:02] <Wolfpaws> Have a question: Are KDE4 packages known to be broken?
[04:04] <compilerwriter> Who can give me the quick tutorial in gpg?
[04:04] <Jucato> they're known to not work sometimes or crash... but as for installing, not sure. might be a packaging problem
[04:04] <guiden> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7890/
[04:04] <compilerwriter> !gpg | compilerwriter
[04:04] <Wolfpaws> Jucato: yeah... It's file collision error
[04:05] <Jucato> guiden: see. you don't have it enabled.. and seems like you didn't follow my instructions very well...
[04:05] <dx11101> what program do you use to encode flac to ogg?
[04:05] <Wolfpaws> is there a way to force the ignore/override in apt?
 guiden: the line looks something like "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe" **add** (do not replace) "multiverse" at the end of that line <--- I said looks like.
[04:05] <Jucato> guiden: that would be this line: deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[04:06] <gugu^> HELP to install  Canon LBP-810 printer
[04:06] <gugu^> please
[04:06] <Jucato> guiden: add the word multiverse at the end of that line. (you can use Adept)
[04:07] <edgarin> Hi some people have the package turboprint?
[04:07] <acr> gugu^: there isn't a driver for it in the database during the install wizard?
[04:08] <guiden> Ok, but I have to add that its 4 oclock in the morning over here, im tired but I can't sleep because I' drank coffie too late
[04:10] <acr> gugu^: ?
[04:10] <gugu^> acr no, i downloaded a driver for lbp-810 from http://debian.are-ata.org/capt/ and folow the instrucyions, but its not working
[04:10] <Jucato> guiden: ok.. you're call :)
[04:10] <sparr> how might i benchmark the speed of my swap under different conditions?
[04:11] <gugu^> acr: i have 2 printers here, HP and canon, HP i have instaled very easy, but canon its not working
[04:11] <acr> gugu^: hang on, I'm trying to find an answer for you
[04:12] <gugu^> acr: ok, thx, there in CUPS apeares on Canon LBP-810 this /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed"
[04:13] <dx11101> anyone here use FLAC?
[04:13] <acr> gugu^: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-LBP-810
[04:14] <guiden> jucato, its working now, thank you
[04:14] <acr> gugu^: is that the driver you downloaded? the 'capt' driver?
[04:14] <Jucato> guiden: you were able to install libxine-extracodecs?
[04:15] <guiden> I see it on the list, but im going to install it now
[04:15] <pirothezerox> whats the difference between apt-get and portage/emerge? seems like its the same thing except emerge is like 5 times slower.
[04:15] <gugu^> acr:  yes maybe, but i dowloaded it form here http://debian.are-ata.org/capt/ , there is a package
[04:16] <guiden> jucato, do I have every repository I need? And should I have everyone on?
[04:16] <Jucato> pirothezerox: it's like the difference between installing a binary package and compiling from source code
[04:16] <acr> gugu^: and you followed the instructions on that page? Modified the /etc/capt.conf file?
[04:17] <gugu^> acr: yes
[04:17] <acr> gugu^: and now when you try to print, nothing happens? You don't get an error message or anything?
[04:17] <jack_> hi jucato, auto-apt didnt help, i get this error:configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found.
[04:17] <Jucato> pirothezerox: apt will just download pre-compiled binary packages from a repository, resolve and download dependencies, and install them. portage/emerge on the other hand give instructions on compiling the package from source code. so it's actually compiling, hence the 5 times longer
[04:17] <jack_> jucato shoudl i just look for it in synaptic?
[04:18] <Jucato> jack_: you need to install libqt3-mt-dev
[04:18] <gugu^> acr: it nothig happens, I get only this /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed"
[04:18] <Jucato> guiden: basically yes
[04:18] <jack_> thank you jucato
[04:19] <guiden> ok
[04:19] <Jucato> jack_: compiling tip. when configure complains of missing headers and libraries, try to look for the -dev version of the package it mentions
[04:19] <pirothezerox> thanks jucate that seems like what its like, but why do it then? not like you get to pick optimizations before compiling...like why suffer through it compiling when you can have it pre-compiled?
[04:19] <guiden> your stacking up your karma jucato :)
[04:19] <dx11101> is their a program to convert FLAC to OGG?
[04:20] <Jucato> pirothezerox: because Gentoo is a source based distribution and that's how they like it.
[04:20] <acr> gugu^: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Brother-QL-500
[04:20] <Jucato> guiden: I wish! heheh
[04:20] <jack_> jucato i read that in the tips u posted, but there are so many qt versions so i was not sure, thank you anyway;-)
[04:20] <acr> gugu^: (I don't actually know much about printing. I'm just googling around)
[04:21] <pirothezerox> figured thats what youd say hehehe
[04:21] <gugu^> acr:  ok, i`ll try this, thx
[04:21] <acr> gugu^: no problem
[04:23] <defiant> Hello all. Can someone please help me install phpmyadmin and configure mysql?
[04:23] <jack_> jucato "
[04:23] <jack_> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[04:23] <jack_> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[04:23] <jack_> oh sorry guys
[04:23] <jack_> didnt want to post it all, sry
[04:23] <Jucato> jack_: what --prefix did you use?
[04:24] <asfhjkh> weirdness... stopping the firestarter firewall enabled my connection to archive.ubuntu.com...
[04:24] <jack_> jucato ./configure
[04:24] <Jucato> jack_: no. I meant ./configure --prefix= what?
[04:25] <jack_> jucato i used none
[04:25] <Jucato> hm...?
[04:25] <Jucato> jack_: just plain ./configure?
[04:26] <jack_> jucato yes, but before --x-includes=DIR' and --x-libraries=DIR, but not now
[04:26] <jack_> jucato yes plain configure
[04:27] <Jucato> why did you use --x-includes and --x-libraries?
[04:27] <surgy> hi jucato
[04:27] <Jucato> hi surgy
[04:28] <pirothezerox> anyone here run different linux distros to try out on vmware?
[04:28] <Jucato> jack_: check if you have kdelibs4-dev installed
[04:28] <surgy> hows ot goin tonight?
[04:28] <Jucato> surgy: hm.. sun's hight up
[04:29] <surgy> jucato: ahh i forget there are other places :) its 9:30 pm here
[04:29] <Jucato> CST
[04:29] <Jucato> hm...
[04:29] <jack_> jucato thanks i hadn't
[04:29] <skywalker> vmware not free
[04:30] <Wolfpaws> vmware-player is, tho
[04:30] <Jucato> vmware player and vmware server are free (as in beer)
[04:31] <defiant> Hello all. Can someone please help me install phpmyadmin and configure mysql?
[04:31] <skywalker> I had problems with vmplayer
[04:31] <xerroz> yay
[04:31] <xerroz> Adept is crashing again!!
[04:32] <Jucato> maybe you should re-write it in C >:D
[04:32] <Jucato> laugh*
[04:32] <surgy> or python* :)
[04:33] <Jucato> dang! punchlines are ruiined by typos...
[04:33] <surgy> i feal your pane
[04:33] <surgy> pain*
[04:33] <Jucato> hehe
[04:33] <Jucato> I guess xerroz didn't get the [/sarcasm]  :D
[04:33] <n8k99> is that like a window? surgy
[04:34] <xerroz> Jucato: lmfao
[04:34] <surgy> n8k99: python is a programming language http://www.python.org
[04:34] <xerroz> I was considering a re-write
[04:34] <xerroz> but then again, i've considered rewritten most every KDE app around
[04:34] <Jucato> xerroz: hehehe! I'm just watching your discussin w/ njaard :P
[04:34] <xerroz> Jucato: I noticed :)
[04:35] <n8k99> pane = window, python = english comedy show
[04:35] <Jucato> monty python :)
[04:35] <Jucato> another one? oh well...
[04:35] <Jucato> hm.. brb errand...
[04:35] <surgy> n8k99:  i see monty python, i was reffering to the programming language
[04:35] <Jucato> people be nice :D
[04:36] <surgy> jucato: im always nice
[04:36] <xerroz> well the one kubuntu has already is horrible :)
[04:36] <n8k99> yes: sorry- i picked up at the wrong point
[04:36] <xerroz> no offense if the developer is here
[04:36] <surgy> n8k99: np
[04:37] <surgy> n8k99:  awsome
[04:37] <n8k99> print "spam" * 500
[04:38] <jack_> jucato the configure worked fine, but the make reports an error 2
[04:40] <defiant> Hello all. Can someone please help me install phpmyadmin and configure mysql?
[04:40] <Shadowtester> is there any way to create a desktop launcher to run a command in the konsole like ssh root@ip ?
[04:41] <jack_> jucato the konsole output is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7891/
[04:41] <xerroz> I think kubuntu has done a great job :) but i think we can make it a whole lot better ^_^
[04:41] <sparr> Shadowtester: right click, create new, link to application.  fill everything in, then go application, advanced, [X]  Run in terminal
[04:42] <Shadowtester> ok thanks I will try that
[04:42] <sparr> which is almost exactly the same way its done in windows  :)
[04:45] <jack_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7891/ can anyone have a look at this error i get when i do make?
[04:45] <defiant> Hello all. Can someone please help me install phpmyadmin and configure mysql?
[04:49] <smax> hi
[04:50] <smax> is it feasable to install kubuntu with kernel 2.6 on the fly rather than upgrade from 2.4 ?
[04:50] <smax> otherwise i get videocard issues
[04:53] <jmiller5655> hi, does anyone know how to change the keyboard layout in Kubuntu?
[04:53] <Darkkish> addons maybe
[04:53] <Darkkish> er... programs*
[04:54] <jmiller5655> right now I think its set to international
[04:54] <jmiller5655> What program do I use?
[04:56] <defiant> networkparadox, I have tried that as well
[04:56] <Shadowtester> is there a way to put a trash can on the desk top to just drag and drop files?
[04:57] <networkparadox> defiant have you already attempted the install
[04:58] <smax> is it feasable to install kubuntu with kernel 2.6 on the fly rather than upgrade from 2.4 after installation?
[04:58] <defiant> Yes
[04:58] <smax> otherwise i get videocard issues.
[04:58] <bonbonthejon> defiant: search for "ubuntu perfect isp", they have a great tutorial
[04:58] <jmiller5655> so what programm do i use to change the keyboard layout?
[04:58] <networkparadox> defiant, any errors?
[04:58] <defiant> I did sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin and it said it installed
[04:59] <defiant> but when I go to localhost/phpmyadmin it asks me if I want to download this file
[04:59] <bonbonthejon> defiant: do you have apache installed?
[04:59] <defiant> Yes
[04:59] <bonbonthejon> defiant: is it set up for php
[05:00] <defiant> This is what I want to do. I want to set up phpmyadmin so I can import a databse that I have tha tis over 500mb
[05:00] <networkparadox> why not use the command line mysql?
[05:00] <defiant> I do not know if it is compiled with php
[05:00] <defiant> because it does not work for me either
[05:01] <defiant> and I need to pull one of the tables out when it is done
[05:01] <bonbonthejon> defiant: here is a great tutorial http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p4
[05:01] <defiant> bonbonthejon, that did not work for me either
[05:01] <jmiller5655> anyone know how to change the keyboard layout? please
[05:01] <defiant> I must be an idiot or something
[05:01] <jack_> hi, could anyone help me witha compiling error?
[05:02] <jack_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7891/
[05:02] <bonbonthejon> defiant: how far did you get
[05:02] <defiant> apparently the whole thing but nothing works
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> jmiller5655: its in control center under region/accessibility
[05:03] <bonbonthejon> defiant: can you run "mysql" from command line
[05:03] <defiant> yes
[05:03] <jmiller5655> Thanx hitmanWilly
[05:03] <bonbonthejon> defiant: the mysql admin console?
[05:03] <defiant> what is that?
[05:04] <bonbonthejon> defiant: mysqladmin, does it bring up a sql prompt?
[05:04] <defiant> it gave me a list of options
[05:05] <bonbonthejon> defiant: ok, so mysql is installed, did you set the root password
[05:05] <defiant> yes
[05:05] <defiant> I just tried to import again and it tells me it exists but I cannot access it with phpmyadmin
[05:05] <jmiller5655> hitmanWilly: there aren any keyboard layouts there when I get to accessibilities. What should I do?
[05:06] <networkparadox> did you install the php4-mysql or php5-mysql package ?
[05:06] <defiant> that I am unsure of
[05:06] <defiant> I believe it was the 4
[05:06] <bonbonthejon> defiant: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p6 tells how to install apache and php
[05:06] <hitmanWilly> jmiller5655: is the enable keyboard layouts button checked?
[05:06] <defiant> bonbonjon, I am not using dapper
[05:07] <bonbonthejon> defiant: the process is the same
[05:07] <dx11101> im stuck
[05:07] <bonbonthejon> dx11101: with what
[05:07] <dx11101> i have 4 hdds NTFS all full and no way to convert it
[05:07] <jmiller5655> hitmanWilly: I just did. Do i need to log out and then log in again?
[05:07] <defiant> I think apache and php are all set up I need phpmyadmin to function
[05:07] <dx11101> do i need to buy another hdd to move the data?
[05:08] <dx11101> and then reformat to ext3?
[05:08] <bonbonthejon> dx11101: ubuntu can now read and write to ntfs
[05:08] <dx11101> and copy over?
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> jmiller5655: no, should be immediate
[05:08] <smax> is it feasable to install kubuntu with kernel 2.6 on the fly rather than upgrade from 2.4 after installation?
[05:08] <dx11101> safely write nfts?
[05:08] <bonbonthejon> dx11101: but ext3 is better supported, obviously
[05:08] <smax> otherwise i get videocard issues.
[05:08] <dx11101> i think ill buy another hdd
[05:09] <dx11101> and then make it ext3 and start copying data
[05:09] <jack_> surgy jucato
[05:09] <jack_> could you help me witha compiling error?
[05:09] <jack_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7891/
[05:09] <bonbonthejon> defiant: put "<? phpinfo() ?>" and name it info.php, then open it in a browser, it should show some statistics
[05:09] <asfhjkh> firestart is messing me up... I just replaced it with guarddog and now all seems to work ok...
[05:09] <nitro> is there anyway to Using kubuntu To upgrade or Change from KDE to Gnome?
[05:09] <asfhjkh> firestarter...
[05:09] <dx11101> another question, is their a way to convert FLAC to OGG VORBIS?
[05:09] <pirothezerox> nitro: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:09] <bonbonthejon> nitro: install ubuntu-desktop, it will install snome
[05:09] <asfhjkh> dx11101: try ffmpeg
[05:10] <jmiller5655> hitmanWilly: anything i can do?
[05:10] <nitro> will that be the x86_64 bit kernel or does that just install Gnome GUC desktop
[05:10] <Jucato> jack_: install kdebase-dev
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> jmiller5655: is the change not registering?
[05:10] <defiant> it asks me to download the file
[05:11] <bonbonthejon> defiant: apache isnt processing the php, did you make the changes the site said?
[05:11] <bonbonthejon> defiant: did you also restart apache
[05:12] <asfhjkh> how do I stop services from starting up in Ubuntu?  In Fedora, it was system-services-config, anything like taht in Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[05:12] <jack_> jucato i am so stupid, wnated to do that, but tried to install devel, which ofcourse didntwork, thanks for the help
[05:12] <Jucato> asfhjkh: Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[05:12] <defiant> yes I have
[05:12] <Jucato> asfhjkh: Kubuntu: System Settings -> Advanced -> System Services
[05:12] <nitro> ubuntu-desktopx86_64?
[05:12] <Jucato> dunno about Ubuntu
[05:14] <Jucato> nitro: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome
[05:14] <nitro> thnx
[05:15] <smax> are there any kubuntu download links with an installation with kernel 2.6?
[05:16] <nitro> only thing is i want x86_64
[05:17] <asfhjkh> jucato: thanks...
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> smax: you could download vanilla ubuntu and then add the kubuntu-desktop
[05:17] <networkparadox> defiant what do you get when you type this in terminal? php -v
[05:17] <jack_> jucato how would i finally start app now?
[05:17] <Jucato> jack_: it will be in the konqueror sidebar
[05:17] <Jucato> it's not a separate app
[05:17] <defiant> command not found
[05:18] <smax> hmm
[05:18] <smax> i'll look into vanilla thanx
[05:18] <networkparadox> then it is likely that php is not installed
[05:18] <networkparadox> which version of php do you want?
[05:18] <Jucato> !lamp
[05:18] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:19] <jack_> jucato there is this patch http://pastie.caboo.se/41815 that all tags are shown if search field is empty, can i just paste the code in konsole?
[05:20] <Jucato> er that's not the proper way to apply patches...
[05:20] <Jucato> wait...
[05:20] <gugu^> acr: i solved the problem, its printing , but i have another, after printing i have anther eror "Printer not connected; will retry in 30 seconds...", if remove de job, he is printing, maybe you have an idea what i can do
[05:20] <acr> gugu^: I don't have any idea. Sorry :-(
[05:21] <Jucato> hm...
[05:21] <gugu^> acr: ok
[05:22] <acr> sorry to be off topic, but does anybody know where I can find a tutorial on building a mini-itx system?
[05:22] <Jucato> jack_: could you hold a  few secs while I try this patch out?
[05:23] <jmiller5655> hitmanWilly: soz just a problem happened, i back though. is there any command i can use?
[05:23] <jack_> sure jucato, meanwhile app doesnt appear, probably i should restart kde
[05:24] <Jucato> jack_: no
[05:24] <Jucato> read the comments, the one about a minor issue
[05:25] <corporate> I want help with viewing Hindi language in Opera
[05:25] <jack_> jucato i did the cp thing comliantly
[05:26] <Jucato> jack_: have you tried restarting konqueror?
[05:27] <jack_> yes jucato
[05:27] <Dr_willis> acr,  several mini-atx sites.. of course those things are so all-in-one.. theres not a lot to building them.. get case.. get mb.. plug in ram.. :)
[05:28] <Jucato> weird...
[05:28] <Jucato> jack_: are you sure it' not showing up in the sidebar? it looks just like the other del.icio.us sidebar
[05:28] <acr> Dr_willis: can you link me to any of them? Something with a basic overview of the process and things to look out for would be great.
[05:30] <jmiller5655> hitmanWilly: soz just a problem happened, i back though. is there any command i can use?
[05:30] <Dr_willis> acr,  i think theres a mini-atx.com site.. but its brittish :) so their guides have some funny slang at times
[05:31] <acr> Dr_willis: is mini-atx the same thing as mini-itx?
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> jmiller5655: what are you trying to set the layout to?
[05:31] <corporate> I want help with viewing Hindi language in Opera, I would appreciate any consideration of my problem
[05:31] <jack_> thanks jucato now it worked, how can i apply the patch then? stupid question, i know
[05:31] <acr> Dr_willis: and does it really matter for a mythtv frontend?
[05:31] <Jucato> jack_: I'm still testing it
[05:32] <jmiller5655> hitmanWilly: just US keyboard
[05:32] <Dr_willis> acr,  well.. the #mythtv-users channel/forums may tell ya the minimum specs needed for a good front end.
[05:32] <Dr_willis> theres gettting to be so many mini-micro-whatever motherboards now - its scary
[05:32] <jack_> ok, jucato, actually in my konqueror it already shows all posts when the search field is empty so no real need for that
[05:33] <acr> Dr_willis: with all 4 other people in it? I got some great advice there, but then the person left and nobody else has showed up or responded
[05:33] <Jucato> jack_: yeah... I'm wondering what that patch is for... I'll talk to the author later
[05:33] <Jucato> he seems to be offline
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> jmiller5655: are you just trying to enable media keys or something?
[05:33] <Dr_willis> acr,  #mythtv-users has more then 4 people :)
[05:34] <acr> Dr_willis: mm... you're very right. I'm in ubuntu-mythtv. Thanks, I'll check it out
[05:34] <jack_> jucato glad that i didnt apply it then..how would i have done that or where can i read about that?
[05:34] <jmiller5655> hitmanWilly: I don think so
[05:34] <acr> Dr_willis: why would mythtv-users not be coming up when I search freenode channels?
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> jmiller5655: what EXACTLY do you need to do?
[05:35] <Jucato> jack_: you would have download the patch (it's a .diff file). put it in the same directory where the bookmark-0.2 folder is in (not inside bookmark-0.2), then run "patch -p0 < filename.diff"
[05:35] <Dr_willis> acr,  Im in there right now....
[05:35] <Dr_willis> #muthtv-users
[05:35] <Dr_willis> oops
[05:35] <Dr_willis> #mythtv-users
[05:36] <jack_> thanks so much jucato i really should go to bed now
[05:36] <Dr_willis> Ive never managed to get mythtv working under ubuntu :)
[05:36] <acr> Dr_willis: so am I, now. I put the name in manually and it's fine. But it doesn't come up when I search channels with kopete
[05:36] <jack_> bybye
[05:36] <Jucato> jack_: ok bye
[05:36] <acr> Dr_willis: thanks for the encouragement :-)
[05:36] <Dr_willis> I never use the channel listings :) heh.
[05:36] <acr> Dr_willis: I'm going to start small. Use my server as a backend, my laptop as a frontend
[05:36] <Dr_willis> acr,  KnoppMyth is very easy to get going.
[05:37] <jmiller5655> hitmanWilly: I would like to stop the comma and speech marks to become like this. For example if I want jmillers, i need to pree it twice so it doesnt become like jmiller
[05:37] <acr> Dr_willis: I want to keep all my operating systems in place, and the ubuntu mythtv site looked great. If I have problems though, I might try and boot knoppmyth from a flash drive
[05:37] <jmiller5655> hitmanWilly: brb
[05:38] <Dr_willis> of course one of the points to MythTV is to have it running all the time.. so you can record your shows. :)
[05:38] <acr> Dr_willis: one last question for you before I start bugging the people in #mythtv-users: very few of the cards I'm looking at have tv-outputs. Do I have to find a tv that connects to a computer output, or am I missing something?
[05:38] <Dr_willis> My Mythtv box is sitting here below the tv.. purring along.
[05:38] <Dr_willis> Find a Nvidia card with a tv out.. theres a lot of good cheap ones out.
[05:39] <acr> I see. All right, thank you
[05:39] <Dr_willis> tv out is getting to be hard to NOT find in a ideo card. :)
[05:39] <underdog5004> svid out, anyway
[05:39] <underdog5004> composite still is a little sketchy
[05:39] <acr> Dr_willis: I have an nvidia geforce go 7300 and it doesn't have one
[05:39] <acr> I think...
[05:39] <Dr_willis> acr,  'go' ? thats a mobile/laptop thang?
[05:40] <acr> Dr_willis: holy ****, it's got an svideo out
[05:40] <Dr_willis> acr,  heh heh
[05:40] <acr> Dr_willis: yes it is, but it has an svideo slot
[05:40] <acr> and I'm 99% sure it's not an svideo-in
[05:40] <Dr_willis> about all laptops these days got svideo out..
[05:40] <acr> wonderful!
[05:40] <acr> i had no idea
[05:40] <Dr_willis> svideo-IN would br rather.. rare. :)
[05:41] <acr> in one day I've discovered an SD card reader and svideo out on my laptop
[05:41] <Dr_willis> gee.. perhaps ya should read the manual? :)
[05:41] <acr> perhaps I should :-)
[05:41] <acr> will the svideo work as easily in linux as the card reader did? It took about 5 seconds to auto-detect it in digikam
[05:41] <Dr_willis> depends on the chipset.
[05:42] <Dr_willis> my nvidia tv out works very well..
[05:42] <acr> this is going to be fun :-)
[05:42] <Dr_willis> BUT theres may be some configuration to do.. or some other tricks. :0
[05:42] <Dr_willis> on my desktop box.. if i plug in the tv.. and unplug the monitor..  the thing defaults to the tv..
[05:42] <Dr_willis> if i got both plugged in.. it defaults to the monitor. and i have to confifure the tv out with the xorg.conf file.
[05:43] <acr> wow. Theoretically I could do dual screen, huh?
[05:43] <Dr_willis> amazed a guy that way once.. he was fighting his mythtv box.. told him to Unplug the monitor.. plug in the tv.. and reboot.. and it worked with the default nvidia xorg.conf
[05:43] <acr> so many more possibilities just opened up...
[05:43] <Dr_willis> acr,  ive done dual screen with tv/monitor yes..
[05:43] <Dr_willis> its not hard.. but may take some research
[05:43] <acr> wow...
[05:43] <Dr_willis> ONE trick is to realize theres a nvidia config program that sets it up for ya. :)
[05:44] <Dr_willis> backup your working xorg.conf Befor twiddling with it
[05:44] <acr> hmmm... I ran an nvidia config when I set up the driver
[05:44] <acr> I learned that the hard way
[05:44] <acr> I think I learned that the hard way a few times, in fact
[05:45] <jerware> hi
[05:45] <Dr_willis> backup your xorg.conf and check out (READ IT)     nvidia-xconfig  --advanced-help
[05:46] <Dr_willis> -a, --enable-all-gpus  Configure an X screen on every GPU in the system.
[05:46] <jerware> where can i learn to install nvidia drivers?  i have an nVidia PCI card
[05:46] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[05:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:46] <jerware> thanx
[05:46] <Dr_willis> jerware,  what card specificially you got?
[05:46] <jerware> oh sorry, im in my schools computer lab.  i dont know off the bat.
[05:47] <Dr_willis> use 'lspci' and see :)
[05:47] <jerware> Dr_willis i'll be back.
[05:48] <jerware> i believe it's geforce 4000
[05:48] <Dr_willis> Geforce4 perhaps?
[05:48] <jerware> yes
[05:49] <Dr_willis>  check the nvidia url closely. it will tell you if you need the old or newer drivers...
[05:49] <jerware> ok thanx.  im going to run back to my dorm
[05:49] <jerware> Dr_willis  what other info is needed other than lspci ?
[05:49] <jerware> aww i'll just open ssh
[05:50] <Dr_willis> lspci shows what cards are on the box.
[05:55] <smax> Hi  Dr_willis   it's me jerware back in my dorm.   here is my lspci  http://rafb.net/p/tR8ilu37.html
[05:55] <smax> the box of my card says  GeForce MX4000
[05:57] <Dr_willis> sounds like an older nvidia card then
[05:57] <smax> damn.
[05:58] <Dr_willis> VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x]  (rev c1)
[05:58] <nonuda> how to mar a *.dll as native,builtin in wine
[05:58] <Dr_willis> Geforce 4MX - yep..
[05:58] <nonuda> mr=mark
[05:58] <Dr_willis> should be supported fine. :) but its not a high end card.
[05:58] <Dr_willis> not any more at least.
[05:58] <smax> Dr_willis, yes,  i have an old PC
[05:58] <underdog5004> plenty enough for beryl or compiz
[05:58] <smax> no AGP slot
[05:59] <smax> Dr_willis, so everything i need should be in the prior link ?
[05:59] <Dr_willis> yes.
[06:00] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:00] <smax> thanx pal
[06:00] <nonuda> anybody have experience in wine? i really need to know how to mark a dll file as native or builtin
[06:01] <ryan__> any one know how to set up wireless?
[06:01] <underdog5004> nonuda, have you tried my best friend, google?
[06:01] <underdog5004> ryan__, what chipset do you have?
[06:01] <ryan__> intel pro
[06:01] <ryan__> wirelss
[06:01] <nonuda> i have try..but i just can't find it
[06:01] <ryan__> wireless*
[06:02] <underdog5004> ryan__, do lspci and paste the result
[06:02] <underdog5004> in pastebin
[06:02] <underdog5004> !pastebin > ryan__
[06:03] <ryan__> okay
[06:03] <ryan__> :)
[06:03] <jmiller56554> hitmanWilly: I would like to stop the comma and speech marks to become like this. For example if I want jmillers, i need to presss it twice so it doesnt become like jmiller. So what can i do?
[06:04] <jmiller56554> hitmanWilly: I would like to stop the comma and speech marks to become like this. For example if I want jmillers, i need to presss it twice so it doesnt become like jmiller. So what can i do?
[06:05] <ryan__> pastebin is quite slow...
[06:05] <John-Z> Did the latest round of updates break anyones kdm?
[06:05] <John-Z> Im running feisty.
[06:05] <Jucato> John-Z: #ubuntu+1
[06:05] <ryan__> http://pastebin.ca/375300
[06:05] <Dr_willis> Thers a reason you dont use feisty. :)
[06:05] <TheAngel> whats feisty? :)
[06:05] <ryan__> underdog5004: http://pastebin.ca/375300
[06:05] <Jucato> !feisty | TheAngel
[06:05] <ubotu> TheAngel: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[06:06] <TheAngel> aah ok cool thank you
[06:06] <underdog5004> ryan__, ok, looking now
[06:06] <ryan__> okay
[06:06] <underdog5004> ryan__, lol, my gf's lappy has the same exact card. You'll need to use ndiswrapper and get the .inf files for the card, really easy stuff
[06:07] <ryan__> thats good
[06:07] <jerware> ndiswrapper taints the kernel
[06:07] <underdog5004> only for purists
[06:07] <ryan__> so what do i need to get?
[06:07] <underdog5004> ryan__, it doesn't work perfectly, but it does work
[06:07] <underdog5004> ryan__, google ndiswrapper, and your card
[06:07] <ryan__> ok
[06:07] <ryan__> thanks
[06:07] <underdog5004> np
[06:07] <underdog5004> sorry for not spoon-feeding you
[06:08] <underdog5004> jk
[06:08] <ryan__> lol
[06:08] <underdog5004> I think I've got the inf files on my usb stick...h/o
[06:09] <jerware> i dont know much about .inf files  but when i used ndis wrapper with my linksys wireless card,  my system would freeze
[06:09] <Dr_willis> when i turn on the microwave.. my wireless network hangs up. :)
[06:09] <ryan__> lol
[06:09] <Dr_willis> sort of sucks at lunchtime
[06:09] <Dr_willis> and when the cordless phone rang.. it would hang up.. but the phone was right next to the pc.
[06:09] <underdog5004> ryan__, I've sent you the file...you need to accept it.
[06:10] <ryan__> um
[06:10] <ryan__> is it possible to use mirc on linux
[06:11] <TheAngel> i dont now ryan__
[06:11] <underdog5004> !irc > ryan__
[06:11] <jerware> ryan__ whould would you want that crap?
[06:11] <underdog5004> ryan__, what are you using now?
[06:11] <jerware> it charges you money
[06:11] <jerware> use xchat
[06:11] <ryan__> Konversation
[06:11] <jerware> or irssi at the command line
[06:11] <underdog5004> ryan__, sudo apt-get install xchat
[06:12] <ryan__> this is the right thing?
[06:12] <ryan__> http://kerneltrap.org/node/7704
[06:13] <underdog5004> ryan__, I don't think so...that's for native support, but if you wanna compile the driver yourself, go for it!
[06:17] <ryan__> hey underdog5004
[06:17] <ryan__> can you send me the files
[06:17] <underdog5004> ok, h/o
[06:17] <ryan__> okay
[06:17] <ryan__> :)
[06:18] <underdog5004> there you go
[06:18] <underdog5004> not sure how, but you have to accept the transfer
[06:18] <TheAngel> when installing kubuntu.. can i select an option to use freespace of my c drivE?
[06:19] <jerware> you need to partition it
[06:19] <TheAngel> ok..
[06:19] <TheAngel> can i do it in the setup?
[06:19] <jerware> yes i believe there are options for that.
[06:19] <TheAngel> thank you..
[06:20] <jerware> what i found easier thought.  was to resize my windows from windows.  then install linux
[06:20] <jerware> s/thought/though
[06:20] <TheAngel> ok.. but i need special progs for that right.. wich i dont have :P
[06:20] <jerware> err resize windows partition from windows
[06:20] <jerware> sorry i havent ran windows in years.
[06:20] <TheAngel> just downloaded kubuntu , freed up some hd space
[06:20] <jerware> but thats what i did back in the day
[06:21] <TheAngel> back at windows 95? :P
[06:21] <jerware> naw 2 years ago with xp
[06:21] <TheAngel> ok 52gb free
[06:21] <jerware> i dont think linux existed back at win 95.  but what do i know. im just in college
[06:21] <TheAngel> lets install;
[06:23] <ryan__> god im such a n00b
[06:23] <ryan__> :\
[06:23] <underdog5004> np, lets try again
[06:23] <ryan__> http://downloadmirror.intel.com/df-support/10315/eng/ipw3945-linux-1.2.0.tgz
[06:23] <ryan__> is that right?
[06:23] <underdog5004> nice
[06:23] <underdog5004> idk...lemme look
[06:23] <ryan__> ok
[06:23] <ryan__> :)
[06:24] <underdog5004> looks good...your card is a 3945?
[06:24] <ryan__> yea
[06:24] <underdog5004> tell me how it turns out, I'll be here all night
[06:24] <ryan__> well once i download it
[06:24] <ryan__> what do i do?
[06:24] <ryan__> :P
[06:24] <chavo> jerware, linux was around in 95.  Remember, ndiswrapper and .inf files
[06:36] <ryan__> omg
[06:36] <ryan__> can anyone else help me?
[06:37] <jerware> xD
[06:39] <posingaspopular> help? firefox keeps shutting down on start
[06:40] <posingaspopular> everything i get to gmail
[06:42] <ryan__> gawd
[06:42] <ryan__> linux is compilcated
[06:42] <ryan__> :P
[06:43] <akrus> hmm
[06:43] <akrus> could someone recommend me one thing? :)
[06:43] <akrus> actually using Opera as EMail Client (used it in Windows so it was simple to move)
[06:44] <akrus> afaik the only app that supports import from opera is kmail
[06:44] <akrus> actually I love evolution more, but anyway...
[06:44] <akrus> is KMail better than Opera client?
[06:45] <moby_dick> if anybody has a moment I had a question about kubuntu
[06:46] <jerware> being?
[06:46] <moby_dick> well I just ran out of hardrive space
[06:46] <jerware> delete your porn
[06:46] <moby_dick> and I think it is soaked up in caches and browser space
[06:46] <jerware> i work at my colleges resnet
[06:46] <jerware> i tell that to every one who says "It says my disk is full"
[06:46] <Jucato> sudo apt-get clean
[06:46] <moby_dick> okay I don't have any porn saved intentionally
[06:47] <moby_dick> so I'm cool with deleting it
[06:47] <ryan__> :P
[06:47] <moby_dick> I did a sudo apt-get clean
[06:47] <jerware> clear your browsers cache
[06:48] <moby_dick> I just did that I'm up another 100 megs
[06:48] <moby_dick> in dos I could do a dir /s and it would tell me the amount of space in a sub dir
[06:48] <moby_dick> is there a way to get a total from ls?
[06:48] <neptunepink> du = disk usage
[06:49] <neptunepink> so like, du -h gives the usage for the current directory, I think
[06:49] <Jucato> !filelight
[06:49] <ubotu> filelight: show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99beta6-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 317 kB, installed size 856 kB
[06:50] <moby_dick> du -h is a nice command
[06:50] <jerware> df -h
[06:52] <dsmith> question: since your cd auto mounts and places an icon on ones desktop how best can I do that with the floppy drive?
[06:54] <moby_dick> I had to make a link that is always there.
[06:54] <dsmith> moby_dick: in where?
[06:55] <moby_dick> I made a directory in /media
[06:55] <moby_dick> like /media/floppy ... it is probably there already
[06:56] <dsmith> hmmmmm
[06:56] <moby_dick> then I put a link to that on the desktop
[06:56] <moby_dick> using the ln command
[06:56] <moby_dick> I did it on my parents computer so I don't have it right in front ofme
[06:57] <KaoticEvil> how can i check if my 3D card is operating with full 3d acceleration?
[06:57] <dsmith> hmmm
[06:57] <moby_dick> ...I'm trying to think if I made a script that would mount the floppy
[06:57] <KaoticEvil> how can i check if my 3D card is operating with full 3d acceleration?
[06:57] <moby_dick> and the directory was always there
[06:57] <dsmith> moby_dick: ok
[06:58] <Kite_DH> can somebody tell me how KdeTV works?
[06:58] <jerware> KaoticEvil  if your 3D games can play
[06:58] <premier_> Im considering getting a fancy wireless keyboard.  They usually come with some fancy multimedia keys.  One comes with a remote and one even comes with a little joystick.  How do I get things like these working in linux?
[06:58] <jerware> otherwise dont worry about it
[06:58] <KaoticEvil> im running the LiveCD for right now...
[06:58] <jerware> well mostlikly it's not
[06:58] <jerware> since the installtion does not come with drivers.  you have to manually install your drivers
[06:58] <KaoticEvil> it detects properly... its an older GeForce
[06:58] <neptunepink> eh, adept_update has gone bonkers on meh!
[06:59] <jerware> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:59] <jerware> KaoticEvil i have an old geforce too
[06:59] <KaoticEvil> FX5200
[06:59] <jerware> and yes i see it in lspci.  but the drivers stil have to be installed
[06:59] <KaoticEvil> ok
[06:59] <jerware> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia  KaoticEvil
[06:59] <KaoticEvil> ty
[06:59] <jerware> nvidia ?
[07:00] <Kite_DH> hello
[07:00] <dsmith> moby_dick: ok when I place a CD in this machine it comes up a seperate window with the contents
[07:00] <Kite_DH> i have a problem with kdeTV :(
[07:00] <Kite_DH> can somebody help me?
[07:00] <jbr> whAT
[07:00] <posingaspopular> !ask
[07:00] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:00] <Kite_DH> well, i cant find channels
[07:00] <moby_dick> dsmith: Your floppy doesn't automatically read the floppy though
[07:01] <Kite_DH> how can i import them?
[07:02] <dsmith> moby_dick: I understand that. On my other machine the cd mounts automatically and displays a desktop icon.
[07:03] <dsmith> moby_dick: so I have to create a link for it?
[07:03] <moby_dick> dsmith: you have to mount it other it will not know its there
[07:03] <dsmith> exactly
[07:03] <KaoticEvil> jerware: if i install the legacy drive in Breezy, and then dist-upgrade to Edgy, will the driver still be loaded?
[07:03] <moby_dick> it should be in your fstab so you could type mount /dev/floppy
[07:04] <dsmith> moby_dick: the problem is the person using the other machine wants to put a flppy in and hit a link
[07:04] <moby_dick> er mount /dev/fd0
[07:04] <dsmith> so I could create a link with mount /dev/fd0
[07:04] <dsmith> ??
[07:05] <moby_dick> yeah
[07:05] <dsmith> let me try that
[07:05] <moby_dick> That is the only way I know how to do it
[07:05] <dsmith> what about umounting?
[07:06] <jerware> taking i a device out of the directory tree
[07:06] <jerware> via umount
[07:06] <jerware> man umount
[07:06] <dsmith> ok I think I can do this
[07:06] <dsmith> thx
[07:06] <KaoticEvil> jerware: did you see my question above?
[07:06] <moby_dick> same thing umount /dev/fd0
[07:06] <Kite_DH> ...
[07:06] <Kite_DH> what about my question? =)
[07:06] <jerware> oh hold up.  im doing discrete math homework too
[07:06] <KaoticEvil> ok
[07:07] <moby_dick> discrete math, as in incospicuous?
[07:07] <ubuntu_> hey all
[07:07] <jerware> KaoticEvil  i dont know if distro changing will supply a brand new kernel.  if it's an upgrade, i hope not.
[07:07] <ubuntu_> im a little troubled,, im at the partitioning part.. but it keeps saying no base filesystem or something, and im rather lost :D
[07:07] <jerware> but i believe you will still have the legacy driver after upgrade
[07:08] <KaoticEvil> ok, cool... so it *should* work
[07:08] <KaoticEvil> awesome, thats all i needed to know.. thanks man :D
[07:08] <jerware> yes but dont synflood me if it doesent.
[07:08] <KaoticEvil> lol i wont
[07:08] <jerware> KaoticEvil are you having a problem seeing the screen?
[07:08] <KaoticEvil> i dunno.. i already have Edgy installed... i may try that legacy HOWTO....
[07:08] <jerware> hmmm.
[07:09] <KaoticEvil> no, im not... i just want to have 3d acceleration for once on linux :P
[07:09] <jerware> oh
[07:09] <jerware> well i dont know you will with legacy drivers.
[07:09] <jerware> just install nvidia drivers
[07:09] <jerware> from the link i gave you.
[07:09] <KaoticEvil> hmmm... ok
[07:09] <KaoticEvil> ill give it a shot
[07:09] <KaoticEvil> *switches his KVM and reboots the other machine*
[07:10] <jerware> i have a kvm too.
[07:10] <reldruh> hi. I just restarted my computer with a wireless connection as opposed to wired and it's working great, except amarok and katapult won't start
[07:11] <reldruh> does anybody have any idea what might be the problem? Or more importantly, how to fix it?
[07:11] <moby_dick> hey I have horrible trouble burning cds, it seems as though I only get about 1/3 of them properly burnt
[07:12] <jerware> i like k3b
[07:12] <jerware> but i sometimes have cd were there will be a track that doesent finish.  pisses me off
[07:13] <moby_dick> and it gives you that wha wha waaaa
[07:13] <neptunepink> ah, that happens to me too
[07:14] <neptunepink> somehow I managed to get these weird scratches from the drive...
[07:15] <jbr> KITE:>try to #kubuntu+1 the support channel
[07:15] <Kite_DH> ok
[07:15] <Kite_DH> o.o..
[07:15] <Kite_DH> its empty
[07:15] <KaoticEvil> now i have a whole other problem
[07:15] <KaoticEvil> *sigh*
[07:15] <jose> hello
[07:16] <jerware> what happened
[07:16] <KaoticEvil> X wont start
[07:16] <KaoticEvil> and i have no net access.. apparently, my wifi is broken (again)
[07:16] <jerware> is there a unitilty that auto configs xorg.conf ?
[07:16] <jose> witch is best page for download beryl?
[07:17] <KaoticEvil> yeah, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg i think
[07:18] <Kite_DH> jose: google x)
[07:18] <KaoticEvil> what is beryl?
[07:18] <dsmith> moby_dick: Thank you very much, it worked just fine. It seemed I was somehwat confused as to how the process worked. I was s...over complicating the issue and learned to do it from the command line exclusively which locked out other ppl from doing it themselve
[07:18] <jtmoney> anyone here use kde wallet with knetworkmanager? i want to enable knetworkmanager to access kde wallet without prompting me for a password
[07:18] <robar> I just installed kubuntu. when i try to download opera, Kate pops up and messed up everything. its so frustrating. how do i turn off kate? anyone?
[07:18] <dsmith> now they have a link on the desktop
[07:18] <TheAngel> anyone know a good msn client for ubuntu? :)
[07:18] <dsmith> Thanks
[07:18] <dsmith> man: lol
[07:18] <jtmoney> TheAngel: kopete?
[07:18] <jerware> TheAngel or Gaim
[07:19] <dsmith> Gaim is goos
[07:19] <dsmith> Good
[07:19] <dsmith> aMSN?
[07:19] <jtmoney> brb
[07:19] <jerware> never heard of aMSN
[07:19] <dsmith> i never tried it
[07:19] <robar> I just installed kubuntu. when i try to download opera, Kate pops up and messed up everything. its so frustrating. how do i turn off kate? anyone?
[07:19] <Jucato> !opera
[07:19] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[07:20] <infocrash> TheAngel try gaim or kopete
[07:20] <dsmith> us msn web messenger
[07:20] <dsmith> :)
[07:20] <dsmith> *use
[07:20] <jose> amsn
[07:20] <dsmith> errr. wait I think you need IE for that
[07:21] <dsmith> which doesn;t matter as you have IE4linux
[07:21] <TheAngel> important is that i can use/see webcam..  to see my girlfriend :)
[07:21] <Kite_DH> works on Kopete too doesnt it
[07:21] <jbr> what port for MSN from kubuntu
[07:21] <moby_dick> damn I think I'm goin got have to archive my music on cds 600 megs just isn't enough room
[07:22] <Kite_DH> store it on DVD?
[07:22] <dsmith> Moby_dick: NASlite
[07:22] <dsmith> :)
[07:22] <moby_dick> NASlite?
[07:22] <dsmith> NASlite: cheap P3 server
[07:22] <dsmith> with large harddrives
[07:23] <dsmith> though it cna be built using whatever you decide
[07:23] <jose> what page is the best for download beryl?
[07:23] <moby_dick> ah ha ./kde/share folder has a bunch of archive shit
[07:23] <dsmith> lol
[07:23] <dsmith> trash!
[07:24] <moby_dick> night all I gotta finish gradin'
[07:24] <infocrash> TheAngel kopete supports the webcam
[07:24] <jerware> moby_dick are you a teacher ?
[07:24] <TheAngel> thanks infocrash
[07:24] <infocrash> any time
[07:25] <TheAngel> sorry if i ask those stupid questions like msn,, because im rather new ^^;
[07:25] <TheAngel> and im feeling rather noob
[07:26] <infocrash> i think that is why this channel is for
[07:26] <infocrash> good night all
[07:26] <KaoticEvil> HA!
[07:26] <KaoticEvil> i fixed me X server :D
[07:27] <jerware> KaoticEvil  what did you do?
[07:27] <KaoticEvil> jerware: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:27] <jerware> because im soon this weekend going to do what you're doing.
[07:27] <jerware> ahh yes.
[07:27] <jerware> i knew debian had that.  didnt knew kubuntu did as well.
[07:27] <KaoticEvil> and since i know exactly what modes my LCD uses best... (1024*768@75) twas easy :)
[07:28] <jerware> nice
[07:28] <jerware> now you can install unreal 2004
[07:28] <KaoticEvil> remember that command tho... ive used it COUNTLESS times
[07:29] <KaoticEvil> im now attempting to fix my wifi
[07:29] <jerware> wifi is a bitch in linux
[07:29] <jerware> i had to use ndiswrapper.  ugh
[07:29] <KaoticEvi1> yup, got that done too
[07:30] <KaoticEvi1> yeah, i gotta use ndiswrapper as well... but it works very well, so i wont complain :)
[07:30] <jerware> sure there are no drivers for you chipset ?
[07:30] <KaoticEvil> im sure
[07:30] <jerware> damn
[07:30] <KaoticEvil> Marvell Liberitas
[07:30] <jerware> id rather get a new card.
[07:30] <KaoticEvil> eh... my other wifi card doesnt work *at all*
[07:31] <jerware> when i used ndiswrapper with wifi,  my whole system would freeze and it would say kernel tainted
[07:31] <KaoticEvil> neither does my ZyXEL AG-225H
[07:31] <KaoticEvil> USB wifi adapter/hotspot finder
[07:31] <KaoticEvil> it can also function as a wifi gateway... making instant 802.11a/b/g/draft n wireless network
[07:32] <KaoticEvil> which is VERY cool, if ya ask me
[07:33] <Kite_DH> ...hmm
[07:33] <KaoticEvi1> can you post that link for me again, jerware ?
[07:33] <jerware> sure
[07:33] <jerware> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:33] <KaoticEvi1> i wanna open it here, so i dont have to keep switching back and forth
[07:34] <jerware> sounds like you're using a windows box as a crutch
[07:34] <jerware> install w32codecs and libdvdcss and flash player.  doubt you'll need to toggle back and forth ever again
[07:35] <jerware> assuming you run windoze
[07:35] <KaoticEvi1> yes, i do.. XP and Vista Ultimate (32 and 64 bit)
[07:35] <jerware> ugh
[07:35] <KaoticEvi1> XP is my production OS
[07:35] <jerware> xgl can obselete all the vista features
[07:36] <KaoticEvi1> Vista is just for checking it out
[07:36] <KaoticEvi1> im a technician... i need to know the OS so i can help customers
[07:36] <jerware> whats a production os?  do you develop software for customers?
[07:36] <jerware> oh a technician
[07:36] <jerware> i do everything on linux.
[07:36] <KaoticEvi1> production os... my everyday work os
[07:36] <KaoticEvi1> see, ive never reached that point
[07:37] <jerware> yea well when i graduate college, i know i'll be sitting at a windows workstation.
[07:37] <jerware> but may administer a unix server.
[07:37] <Kite_DH> :(
[07:38] <jerware> as long as i dont have to administer for windows.  i dont mind writing software for any os.  C++ is C++
[07:38] <Kite_DH> windows notworking station
[07:38] <Kite_DH> =D..lol
[07:38] <KaoticEvil> actually, ive found networking to be easier (at least home networking) on windows xp than on any other OS
[07:38] <jerware> i like Qt libraries
[07:38] <Kite_DH> can somebody help me with kdeTV?
[07:39] <jerware> KaoticEvil  but windows doesent support raw sockets nor datalink layer access from a program
[07:39] <KaoticEvil> jerware: i know... but its still easier to setup a LAN on windows
[07:39] <KaoticEvil> at least for me
[07:40] <Admiral_Chicago> :)
[07:40] <Admiral_Chicago> :)
[07:40] <Admiral_Chicago> i do it all the time. don't worry
[07:41] <KaoticEvil> just easier to chat in one channel than to join a whole new channel just to continue a conversation
[07:41] <Jucato> #kubuntu is a channel for Kubuntu-related support questions. While offtopic discussions happen once in a while, it's highly advised to take them to #kubuntu-offtopic . Let's keep this channel clean, and try to liven up that other channel :D Hooray for offtopics and #kubuntu-offtopic !!!
[07:41] <jerware> :P
[07:41] <KaoticEvil> lol nicer
[07:41] <KaoticEvil> -r
[07:42] <omar> hello
[07:42] <Admiral_Chicago> lol.
[07:42] <omar> thx ;D I'm having trouble adding xgl as a session in KDM
[07:42] <Admiral_Chicago> omar: got a link?
[07:43] <omar> to what? i was using a beryl wiki but it talks about configuring it with GDM
[07:43] <Admiral_Chicago> hold on
[07:43] <omar> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL#Installing_Xgl_and_Beryl
[07:43] <omar> was using that..
[07:43] <jerware> where can i learn to install xgl ?
[07:43] <jerware> i saw it on a buddies laptop.
[07:44] <Kite_DH> did somebody read my question??
[07:44] <jerware> Kite_DH  well you didnt post a ligit one.
 can somebody help me with kdeTV?  <<< that one.   no.
[07:44] <omar> you can use that link i provided jerware
[07:44] <jerware> oh my bad
[07:44] <Kite_DH> ok
[07:45] <Jucato> omar: substitude "kdesu kate" for "sudo gedit" and you'll be fine
[07:45] <intelikey> Kite_DH if you have something more specific you are more likely to get answers.
[07:45] <Kite_DH> intelikey: i cant import channels
[07:46] <intelikey> ok that's a start.   now if you can explain that just a little     encluding any error message...
[07:46] <omar> jucato... that wasn't my question :) was trying to add XGL as a session to my kdm menu
[07:46] <Kite_DH> if i make a channel search, it finds nothing
[07:47] <Kite_DH> i found something to import kdeTV xml files, but i dont have something like that
[07:47] <Jucato> omar: ok, which part is giving you problems? there are instructions for KDE
[07:49] <Admiral_Chicago> omar: got distracted..
[07:49] <omar> well.. i followed the instructions, all the way down to making the xgl.desktop in /etc/X11/sessions
[07:49] <omar> and when i'm in the KDM menu i click on sessions and there's just default, KDE and failsafe
[07:49] <omar> no XGL
[07:49] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm.
[07:50] <hakaisou> hello
[07:50] <omar> ohhh
[07:50] <omar> Note: I had to create this file in /usr/share/xsessions before it was picked up by kdm - Huub Bouma
[07:50] <Kite_DH> hakaisou: heya
[07:50] <omar> i just found that line in there
[07:50] <omar> going to try it and see if it works...
[07:50] <Kite_DH> hehe
[07:50] <Hakaisou> am i to assume that this is a good place to get help with kubuntu?
[07:51] <omar> i think that'll work
[07:51] <Kite_DH> yes it is
[07:51] <jerware> Hakaisou does it have the kubuntu logo?
[07:51] <omar> going to try now :)
[07:51] <Hakaisou> lol
[07:51] <Hakaisou> ok then
[07:51] <jerware> captioned "Linux, for human n00bs'"
[07:51] <Kite_DH> xD
[07:52] <Hakaisou> kite, i still need to register
[07:52] <Kite_DH> oh:D
[07:52] <Kite_DH> Hakaisou: so ure new with kubuntu??
[07:53] <intelikey> Kite_DH the only thing i see apropose is   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[07:53] <Hakaisou> yes i am
[07:53] <Hakaisou> new to linux actually
[07:53] <Kite_DH> intelikey: thx, iLL look at it
[07:53] <omar> ok XGL now shows up in my kdm menu but when i try to login with it, it sits at wallpaper and kde doesn't load
[07:54] <LL_Hakaisou> hey there we go
[07:54] <theangel> anyone know why i cant use adapt manager anymore?
[07:54] <intelikey> Kite_DH hope is at least helps you find a clue.   cause i don't have any to give...
[07:54] <theangel> it pops up something about my su password i do that.. and it says not availble or something???
[07:55] <jerware> sudo passwd
[07:55] <theangel> ok how do i open a terminal..
[07:55] <theangel> :X
[07:55] <intelikey> theangel   in a konsole     sudo echo yes
[07:55] <intelikey> !konsole
[07:55] <ubotu> konsole: X terminal emulator for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 710 kB, installed size 2192 kB
[07:55] <intelikey> !cli
[07:55] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:55] <intelikey> there.
[07:56] <KaoticEvi1> ok, ive got a problem here...
[07:56] <theangel> [07:55]  <intelikey> theangel   in a konsole     sudo echo yes
[07:56] <theangel> ive tried that.. it asks for my password.. then i stillc ant do anything
[07:56] <intelikey> jerware why exactly are you sujesting setting a root password.  that's not very likely to fix it.
[07:57] <intelikey> theangel but does it echo     'yes'   back at you ?
[07:57] <theangel> yes
[07:57] <intelikey> theangel that's a test to see if you can  "sudo".
[07:57] <theangel> it echo's yes...
[07:57] <intelikey> ok
[07:57] <LL_Hakaisou-WhoT> bah!
[07:58] <intelikey> so your sudoers is not broken.     when you run adept you do use your own password and not "root's" password don't you ?
[07:58] <theangel> i guess so yes
[07:58] <theangel> i only used 1 password..
[07:59] <theangel> 2 min ago.. i started adept manager without a problem
[07:59] <LL_HakaisouTwo>  /msg nickserv link LL_Hakaisou dudeman
[07:59] <LL_HakaisouTwo> shit!
[08:00] <intelikey> ok.   *just a note but the command jerware advised would have set a "root" password*     !adeptcrashfix   and follow it.
[08:00] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix
[08:00] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:00] <intelikey> ^
[08:00] <omar> you know how kde will rerun programs that were closed when you shutdown... is there a way to update when you wanna save that so when i do ctrl+alt+backspace it won't lose what i have?
[08:00] <LL_HakaisouTwo>  /msg nickserv link <primary-nick> <your-password>
[08:00] <LL_HakaisouTwo>  /msg NickServ link <primary-nick> <your-password>
[08:00] <intelikey> theangel also were you installing  java when this happened ?
[08:00] <theangel> dont know
[08:01] <LL_HakaisouTwo> did nickserv go down?
[08:01] <LL_Hakaisou> nope...
[08:01] <jerware> is java in the repos?
[08:01] <jerware> damn even slackware gaves you java
[08:01] <theangel> bash: !adaptcrashfix: event not found
[08:01] <intelikey> nickserv is not down.
[08:01] <intelikey> look at ubotu  ^
[08:02] <Jucato> jerware: yes, java is in the repos
[08:02] <Jucato> !info sun-java6-bin
[08:02] <ubotu> sun-java6-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-0ubuntu1~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 25604 kB, installed size 76680 kB
[08:03] <LL_Hakaisou> sorry to bother you guys, but I'm having an issue installing a driver for my video card
[08:03] <LL_Hakaisou> was wondering if anyone could help me out with it
[08:04] <intelikey> !ati
[08:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:05] <LL_Hakaisou> Intelikey, the console returned "no event found"
[08:06] <theangel> ok lol
[08:06] <theangel> had to reboot to fix it
[08:06] <theangel> anyone know a good mp3 player for linux?
[08:06] <omar> so does anyone know where the setting is that kde saves what windows are open and reload them upon startup?
[08:07] <jerware> theangel kaboodle or totem
[08:07] <jerware> omar  some where in Konsole
[08:08] <Jucato> omar: System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager
[08:08] <jerware> nm
[08:08] <theangel> jerware: wich one looks for like winamp? :P
[08:08] <omar> thanks jucato ;) any clue if there's a manual way to save the session?
[08:08] <jerware> i dont know of any that look like win amp
[08:08] <Jucato> omar: yep. in the same settings
[08:08] <Jucato> theangel: xmms
[08:08] <intelikey> !ati | LL_Hakaisou
[08:08] <ubotu> LL_Hakaisou: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:09] <theangel> thanks jucato
[08:09] <omar> oh ;)
[08:09] <omar> thanks jucato
[08:09] <Jucato> omar: set Session Manager to "Restore  manually saved session", then you get a Save session entry in K Menu
[08:11] <omar> ya just saw that
[08:11] <omar> jucato.. any clue why when i select XGL from my KDM menu and login nothing happens?
[08:11] <omar> kde never loads
[08:11] <Jucato> sorry nope
[08:13] <theangel> ok running a full upgrade now.. :)
[08:13] <theangel> thats never bad..
[08:13] <squall9900> hi
[08:14] <Kite_DH> little question
[08:14] <posingaspopular> !ask
[08:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:14] <Kite_DH> my adept says there is another adept running
[08:14] <Kite_DH> but there isnt
[08:15] <posingaspopular> Kite_DH: .... i know the answer
[08:15] <posingaspopular> but i forget the answer
[08:15] <Jucato> !adeptfix | Kite_DH
[08:15] <ubotu> Kite_DH: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:16] <intelikey> a spamite http://wooledge.org/mywiki/BashFaq seeme
[08:16] <Kite_DH> thx jucato
[08:16] <posingaspopular> blah see Jucato DOES know everything
[08:16] <Jucato> O.o
[08:16] <Kite_DH> yes he does
[08:16] <Kite_DH> master of kubuntu
[08:17] <Jucato> no I'm not...
[08:17] <Kite_DH> Jucato: while installing mythTV , adept crashed, now when i try to uninstall it, it says there was an error
[08:17] <Jucato> just master of this room :P
[08:17] <Jucato> j/k
[08:17] <Kite_DH> is there a way to uninstall it manually??...
[08:18] <LL_Hakaisou> aye aye aye...
[08:18] <Kite_DH> aw now it worked
[08:18] <Jucato> Kite_DH: try doing it from Konsole so you can get more descriptive error messages
[08:18] <Kite_DH> sry
[08:18] <LL_Hakaisou> how to i get permission to overwrite xorg.conf?
[08:18] <posingaspopular> sudo
[08:18] <Kite_DH> what was the cmd to upgade again?
[08:18] <posingaspopular> !x
[08:18] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:19] <Jucato> Kite_DH: I thought you were trying to uninstall?
[08:19] <intelikey> !root | LL_Hakaisou
[08:19] <ubotu> LL_Hakaisou: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:19] <Kite_DH> Jucato: its already done :D
[08:19] <intelikey> !kdesu | LL_Hakaisou
[08:19] <ubotu> LL_Hakaisou: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[08:19] <posingaspopular> SUperuserDO
[08:19] <Jucato> Kite_DH: "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:20] <LL_Hakaisou> ah.  thank you very much.
[08:20] <Kite_DH> thx
[08:22] <Kite_DH> g2g shower :D
[08:22] <Kite_DH> bbl
[08:22] <DaSkreech> How does upstart work?
[08:23] <intelikey> how does init work ?
[08:23] <ubuntu_> FUCK
[08:23] <DaSkreech> Ok fine How do I know what is the next step after executing /etc/rc.local?
[08:23] <DaSkreech> !lanuage | ubuntu_
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lanuage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <DaSkreech> !language | ubuntu_
[08:23] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:24] <ubuntu_> can any one help me please??
[08:24] <posingaspopular> !ask
[08:24] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:24] <DaSkreech> !anyone
[08:24] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:24] <ubuntu_> i have a 40GB HDD right
[08:25] <intelikey> DaSkreech hmmm  you know i should probably install upstart so i can answer that...     but in the mean time   dpkg -L upstart    might show where it's configs are.
[08:25] <ubuntu_> i made a partition for 5GB
[08:25] <DaSkreech> intelikey: it doesn't have a runlevel staet of mind right?
[08:25] <ubuntu_> and another one for 500MB for swap
[08:25] <ubuntu_> so i installed kubuntu on my 5GB drive
[08:25] <ubuntu_> then i try to go back to xp and i can't boot it up
[08:26] <ubuntu_> can u help ?
[08:26] <intelikey> DaSkreech i really have never had my hands on it yet.
[08:26] <posingaspopular> !grub
[08:26] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Blast
[08:26] <posingaspopular> that nice bot will help you out
[08:26] <LL_Hakaisou> hey i think it's working, thank you very much
[08:26] <intelikey> DaSkreech i don't even see a port of it for dapper
[08:27] <DaSkreech> I would very very much doubt that anyone would attempt that
[08:27] <pirothezero> man i see ubuntu_ and I just think of the ubuntu_'s that came before this one heheheh
[08:28] <intelikey> DaSkreech why ?   we've done  'bash init replacements'  building a deb of a package for an older version should be a snap
[08:29] <squall9900> hi everybudy
[08:30] <LL_Hakaisou> well, time to reboot and see if it worked.
[08:31] <intelikey> heh M$ taught us well didn't it.
[08:32] <intelikey> i'm going to change my fonts i need to reboot.    changed password have to reboot to see if it worked.   added new wallpaper rebooting..............
[08:32] <intelikey> shoot closed the wrong window.   have to reboot.......
[08:33] <Adydas> haha
[08:33] <intelikey> well i better hush before he gets back...
[08:33] <Cugel> Ah, finally new Firefox in the repos.
[08:34] <intelikey> install it and reboot ?
[08:34] <intelikey> :)    :)    :)
[08:36] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then
[08:41] <LL_Hakaisou> crud, i missed a step
[08:41] <LL_Hakaisou> where is xorg.conf located
[08:42] <intelikey>  /etc/X11/
[08:42] <LL_Hakaisou> thank you
[08:43] <simson7> firefox and irc protocol
[08:44] <intelikey> yuch
[08:44] <simson7> firefox and irc protocol?
[08:44] <squall9900> hi i need help
[08:44] <simson7> in kubuntu
[08:44] <LL_Hakaisou> darnit...
[08:44] <LL_Hakaisou> "now see Modifying xorg.conf. Skip the "lrm-manager" and "depmod" commands."
[08:45] <LL_Hakaisou> for the love of god i don't know what that means
[08:45] <squall9900> what is irc
[08:46] <LL_Hakaisou> o_0
[08:46] <LL_Hakaisou> uh...
[08:46] <LL_Hakaisou> you're in one...
[08:46] <LL_Hakaisou> <.<
[08:47] <squall9900> ok is it just a chat
[08:47] <intelikey> Jucato is there any place to upload a few text files so someone can look at them and maybe add one to the wiki ?    can't just pastebin   it's about 750k of ascii text
[08:47] <Jucato> intelikey: sorry, none that I know of..
[08:47] <intelikey> ok.
[08:48] <squall9900> never mind =D
[08:48] <intelikey> !irc | squall9900
[08:48] <ubotu> squall9900: irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[08:49] <LL_Hakaisou> it used to be used as a primitive P2P client, but not anymore.  now it's just for chatting
[08:49] <intelikey> LL_Hakaisou /dcc send still work
[08:49] <squall9900> cool thanks
[08:50] <intelikey> words
[08:50] <intelikey> work'is
[08:50] <ilias> how to make firefox open the irc by clicking on a irc://foo.bar/foo link?
[08:51] <LL_Hakaisou> true, but i haven't heard of people using those functions in over 5 years
[08:51] <ilias> thanks in advance
[08:51] <intelikey> i don't understand why so many of my typos are "wrong hand" errors....    same key stroke just the other hand....
[08:51] <LL_Hakaisou> your hands are fighting over brain signals
[08:52] <LL_Hakaisou> you need to tell your hands to stop being so selfish XD
[08:52] <intelikey> or maybe my brain is fighting over hand signals...
[08:52] <LL_Hakaisou> the world may never know
[08:52] <LL_Hakaisou> anyway, onto my next task
[08:53] <intelikey> lol...   what is the differance in a duck
[08:53] <LL_Hakaisou> any advice on getting an Audigy 2 ZS to work?
[08:53] <intelikey> !Audigy
[08:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audigy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:53] <LL_Hakaisou> !Audigy
[08:53] <LL_Hakaisou> hey intelikey
[08:53] <LL_Hakaisou> why do you keep throwing up the ! commands?
[08:53] <intelikey> bot shows it's ignorance again.
[08:53] <LL_Hakaisou> oh
[08:53] <LL_Hakaisou> i see
[08:54] <LL_Hakaisou> it really is a bot
[08:54] <intelikey> !bot | LL_Hakaisou
[08:54] <ilias> and another question. Is gr.archive.ubuntu.com down ?
[08:54] <ubotu> LL_Hakaisou: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:54] <LL_Hakaisou> nifty
[08:55] <intelikey> to answer your Q.  cause i'm lazy and don't like typing in the answer if there is already a bot listing for it...
[08:55] <LL_Hakaisou> i figured that much
[08:56] <intelikey> ilias it's pingable.
[08:56] <LL_Hakaisou> well, scrolling still looks fugly, but it's not hanging up anymroe
[08:56] <LL_Hakaisou> more*
[08:57] <intelikey> mr. oe   :)
[08:57] <intelikey> anyone know the date format that touch accepts ?
[08:58] <LL_Hakaisou> hmmm...
[08:58] <LL_Hakaisou> i wonder...
[08:59] <intelikey> LL_Hakaisou's hands start to stink...
[08:59] <ilias> man touch
[09:00] <LL_Hakaisou> ok.  enabling ALSA
[09:00] <intelikey> ilias obviously you havent
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> still restarting sound system...
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> !ntfs
[09:02] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> hey, nifty
[09:02] <ilias> -t STAMP               use [[CC] YY] MMDDhhmm[.ss]  instead of current time
[09:02] <intelikey> yeah but i can't use the answer that i like cause the bot gets in the way.
[09:02] <squall9900> thanks for the help ubotu =D
[09:03] <LL_Hakaisou> that's a bot squall
[09:03] <LL_Hakaisou> XD
[09:03] <intelikey> ilias ok. thanks    where did you find that info ?
[09:04] <intelikey> !thanks | squall9900
[09:04] <ubotu> squall9900: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[09:05] <squall9900> wtf relly a bot
[09:05] <ilias> touch -t<PHONE_NUMBER> myfilename (year07 month01 day01 hour 23 minute 59)
[09:07] <intelikey> yes i understand the format you posted.   where is the information found ?          inet page ?    info page ?      (info is not installed here)
[09:07] <ilias> touch --help
[09:08] <intelikey> really.   heh i didn't think of that being more informative than the man page
[09:08] <intelikey>   lol
[09:09] <LL_Hakaisou> well that's interesting...
[09:09] <prak> is there anyone here that is familiar with planner?
[09:09] <intelikey> oh wait that's still not   -d
[09:09] <LL_Hakaisou> i finally get my "stuff" partition mounted, and low and behold!!!!
[09:09] <LL_Hakaisou> nothing...
[09:09] <LL_Hakaisou> absolutely nothing
[09:10] <LL_Hakaisou> it's not formatted, so where is my stuff?!
[09:10] <intelikey> ilias    not -t   -d    but i can use the full -t   i asked about -d  "date format"
[09:11] <intelikey> ilias you waited long enough for me to forget   and tricked me... i see how you are.
[09:11] <illriginal> guys... I have this file: BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.003  and when I take off the ".003" the file doesn't play... but when I leave the ".003" the file is not recognized.
[09:11] <ForgeAus> um .003? Im not familiar with that extension
[09:11] <ForgeAus> it looks like it may be part of an archive set or something
[09:11] <illriginal> there's 3 files to it...
[09:11] <illriginal> 001, 002, 003
[09:11] <ForgeAus> well maybe you need to join the files together somehow?
[09:12] <ForgeAus> or are they all individual wmv's in a set?
[09:12] <illriginal> ahh yes it tells me to use this program but it's for windows.
[09:12] <ForgeAus> there probably is a way to do it in linux to join files (I'm thinking possibly the cat command ... )
[09:12] <ForgeAus> but I aren't entirely sure
[09:12] <ForgeAus> which windows program?
[09:12] <theangel> anyone here got pokerstars to work? :)
[09:12] <ilias> touch -d yyyyMMdd (found by trying:)
[09:13] <illriginal> eek..
[09:13] <prak> is there anyone here that is familiar with planner?
[09:13] <ForgeAus> the gnome office program?
[09:14] <intelikey> ilias ah ok.   the old "try it and reformat methood"   :)
[09:14] <ForgeAus> try #gnome prak (or is it ##gnome?)
[09:14] <prak> ForgeAus: it's the gnome gantt chart planning program
[09:16] <ForgeAus> seems like nobody paying attention there to ask :(
[09:17] <illriginal> Can someone tell me how to conjoin 3 movie files into 1?
[09:18] <ForgeAus> illriginal try: cat {filename1} + {filename2} + {filename3} > newfile
[09:18] <illriginal> BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.003 BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.002 BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.001 all need to be conjoined
[09:18] <illriginal> cat?
[09:18] <ForgeAus> (just don't type the {filename} bits literally, replace them with your BB.mon,o.co+numbers etc...
[09:18] <ilias> cat?
[09:18] <ForgeAus> yes cat... just try it... not sure it will work...
[09:19] <ForgeAus> cat is like type in dos... but if you redirect the output to a file, it can join things
[09:19] <illriginal> cat BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.001 + BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.002 + BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.003 .> BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv   ???
[09:19] <ForgeAus> I'm just hoping the + is the correct syntax
[09:19] <ForgeAus> no . before the > but yeah
[09:19] <illriginal> ok
[09:20] <theangel> anyone a ubuntu way to install flash into firefox?
[09:20] <LL_Hakaisou> HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!
[09:20] <intelikey> cat file1 >> file2 ;cat file2 >> file3      watch out for order.    > will over write    >> will append
[09:20] <LL_Hakaisou> !flash
[09:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:20] <Jucato> !flash | theangel
[09:20] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[09:20] <ubotu> theangel: please see above
[09:21] <LL_Hakaisou> i got that damn volume mounted!
[09:21] <LL_Hakaisou> hahaha!!!
[09:21] <ForgeAus> thanx intelikey...
[09:21] <theangel> !flash
[09:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:21] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[09:22] <illriginal> cat BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.001 + BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.002 + BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.003 > BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv
[09:22] <illriginal> ^ will not work?
[09:22] <ForgeAus> sorry illriginal intellikey corrected me
[09:22] <ilias> information on video file is in the header. If you concat them there will be no information on the header for the rest!!!!
[09:22] <ForgeAus> backread
 cat file1 >> file2 ;cat file2 >> file3      watch out for order.    > will over write    >> will append
[09:23] <theangel> thats.. even more confusing :D
[09:23] <prak> ForgeAus: it's the gnome gantt chart planning program
[09:23] <prak> nvm my last message, forgeaus
[09:23] <theangel> at the live cd,, when i tried firefox.. it gave me a popup saying flash wasnt installed.. then it auto installed..
[09:23] <intelikey> note that in the example i gave   and it could be done   cat file2 >> file3 ;cat file1 >> file3      the order is   file3,file2,file1
[09:23] <ForgeAus> hehe its ok I read it the first time
[09:24] <ForgeAus> intelikey they're named .001 .002 .003 ie strict order of the parts required to be appended
[09:25] <ForgeAus> so bascially you say cat... append onto file1, file2... then append onto file2 file3 ... wouldn't it be better to make a new file instead of changing the original tho?
[09:25] <illriginal> cat BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.001 >> BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.002 ; cat BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.002 >> BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.003
[09:25] <illriginal> ^ correct ?
[09:25] <illriginal> there's only 3 files.
[09:25] <intelikey> yep that's what i'm saying.    if you start on the wrong end   (like i did in both examples)  the result will be   prolly useless
[09:26] <ForgeAus> ie an output file... the .wmv file itself...
[09:27] <intelikey> ForgeAus safer yes  better is an issue of many factors   disk space, safty, security, ... the list could be long.
[09:27] <ForgeAus> intelikey, agreed but for this particular instance it seems more appropriate...
[09:28] <ForgeAus> .. but then I've obviously been known to be wrong... more than once
[09:28] <illriginal> so this is correct?
[09:28] <illriginal> BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.001
[09:28] <illriginal> ugh
[09:28] <illriginal> cat BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.001 >> BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.002 ; cat BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.002 >> BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.003
[09:29] <intelikey> illriginal prolly not.
[09:29] <illriginal> ...
[09:29] <illriginal> may i have the correct command
[09:29] <illriginal> to conjoin 001 to 002 to 003
[09:29] <illriginal> and then make the output file into a regular vieable watchable wmv?
[09:29] <illriginal> viewable*
[09:30] <intelikey> cp BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.001 BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv :cat BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.002 >> BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv ;cat  BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.003 >>  BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv
[09:30] <illriginal> oh i see what you're doing...
[09:30] <illriginal> you're making the file BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv and adding 001, 002, 003 to it, yes?
[09:31] <intelikey> yes
[09:31] <illriginal> could i just do ..............   cp BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.003 >> BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv and be able to watch it?
[09:31] <illriginal> assuming just to watch the 3rd part.
[09:32] <illriginal> or is file 001 the one that holds all the info of all 3 parts?
[09:32] <intelikey> if the header is on part 001 you might be able to watch part 1 that way  but not likely you can start in the middle
[09:32] <illriginal> ah gotcha
[09:33] <illriginal> thanks a lot intelikey
[09:33] <intelikey> np
[09:33] <illriginal> wait...
[09:33] <illriginal> i woud have to be in the directory of the files yes
[09:33] <illriginal> then the output file would end up in the same directory.
[09:33] <intelikey> or use the path also
[09:33] <illriginal> the path?
[09:34] <illriginal> right now they're all on my desktop
[09:34] <illriginal> /home/illriginal/Desktop
[09:34] <intelikey> cp /some/dir/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.001 ~/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv :cat /some/dir/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.002 >> ~/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv ;cat  /some/dir/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.003 >>  ~/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv
[09:35] <intelikey> replace  /some/dir/  with ~/Desktop/   and you would have the correct path
[09:35] <intelikey> the output would be in your $HOME dir
[09:35] <koriel> anyone knows how can I configure beryl so every new window I open get the focus and is brought to front of others?
[09:36] <illriginal> ah ok i dont need to be in the directory just put in the path
[09:36] <intelikey> illriginal the reason i gave that last example, is because you could have the sectioned files in a readonly location and still do the same thing.
[09:37] <intelikey> illriginal  that is correct.
[09:37] <Remi000> How do I register so that I can join Channel Python?
[09:37] <Remi000> Register on freenode..
[09:38] <illriginal> cp ~/Desktop/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.001 ~/Desktop/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv :cat ~/Desktop/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.002 >> ~/Desktop/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv ;cat  ~/Desktop/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.003 >>
[09:38] <Jucato> !registger | Remi_
[09:38] <Jucato> !register | Remi_
[09:38] <illriginal> ^ correct?
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about registger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <squall9900> how do you register on freenode
[09:38] <ubotu> Remi_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration