[00:03] <beisner> skylerberg, indeed nova-compute needs to be on metal or in a vm.
[00:04] <skylerberg> beisner: Yeah, it worked out though because I didn't need it to run correctly to check if it set the config properly. Now I am just learning how to make a merge request on launchpad.
[00:06] <skylerberg> beisner: Got it! I now have a merge request proposed for the change I need: https://code.launchpad.net/~sberg-l/charms/trusty/nova-compute/next/+merge/268680
[00:07] <beisner> skylerberg, i won't be able to take a deep dive, but i can confirm that you have it proposed against the right charm in the right place.  woot!   the testing bot will see that and start to give feedback.  once those tests are done, humans will take a deeper look and provide feedback.  appreciate your work!
[00:08] <skylerberg> beisner: Cool! Sounds good.
[00:37] <Egyptian[Home]> hi - when i run juju status or juju debug-log .. nothing happens it just hangs there
[01:10] <Egyptian[Home]> i installed ntp on the maas server and it worked - it was able to deploy and all
[20:07] <puzzolo> ping lazyPower
[20:10] <puzzolo> i am seeing quite some bugs floating on this lxc networking issues. I'll take a look, but something is definitly wrong between lxc networking and juju-br0
[20:15] <lazyPower> puzzolo: i had the talk with dimiter this morning
[20:15] <lazyPower> puzzolo: question about your setup. Are you letting maas manage the networking? or are you using an un-managed network w/ maas?
[20:15] <puzzolo> maas manages dhcp and dns.
[20:16] <puzzolo> on dns side i use a forwarder to resolve external hosts
[20:16] <lazyPower> puzzolo: if maas is managing the network, it cross host container reachability should work ootb
[20:16] <lazyPower> as the containers would be requesting ip addressing from the DHCP server, and get a proper address for the LAN
[20:17] <lazyPower> puzzolo: additionally, the containers should be visible in the MAAS UI
[20:17] <lazyPower> if they are not, its time to start filing bugs, and getting eyeballs on the issue as its probably a localized issue or we've got a gap in our testing coverage
[20:19] <puzzolo> If your setups are working ... problem lays on my libvirt setup with macvlan canibilized bridges
[20:20] <puzzolo> on top of kvm vm passed to maas... and used for containerization by juju
[20:20] <lazyPower> puzzolo: if you could get that configuration posted, along with versions of maas, and juju, and a bundle of the services, we can try to reproduce.
[20:20] <lazyPower> it might be a configuration detail, without having the details of how things are currently configured, its difficult to discern where the root cause is.
[20:27] <puzzolo> i will try a deployment on a physical server. If issue remains i'll post a bug. Is it safe using maas on 15.04?
[20:28] <lazyPower> Certainly
[20:28] <lazyPower> so long as maas is managing the network it should "just work"
[20:34] <puzzolo> once i installed maas i had huge problems resolving outside. I had to manually edit bind9 configuration for outside resolving. Is it normal?
[20:34] <lazyPower> puzzolo: i haven't had that issue myself, the DNS was forwarded when not found.
[20:35] <lazyPower> but that might be a recent change. I haven't had my hands in maas in exess of 4 months.
[20:52] <puzzolo> lost ya after asking
[21:30] <lazyPower> puzzolo: i haven't had that issue myself, the DNS was forwarded when not found.
[21:30] <lazyPower> but that might be a recent change. I haven't had my hands in maas in exess of 4 months.
[21:30] <lazyPower> doh, i should probably re-enable join/part messages


[00:00] <pleia2> no added apps or changes
[00:00] <genii-around> Ah, OK. I'm on Kubuntu 13.04 but changed wallpapers, etc
[00:00]  * pleia2 nods
[00:00] <pleia2> I'll just toss it on a VM :)
[00:01] <pleia2> I think I need a nap while these download
[09:22] <knome> pleia2, i guess you're not awake anymore ;)
[11:09] <knome> ochosi, there's a slight problem with the lightdm theme, but only a slight...
[11:09] <knome> ochosi, if you have two users who both have same *realname* there's no way to make a difference between them
[11:27] <knome> pleia2, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/marketing_magazine
[12:11] <knome> people with twitter, please retweet https://twitter.com/Xubuntu/status/323045621181325312
[12:26] <lderan> knome, is this how you wanted the top of the moin output to be http://paste.ubuntu.com/5704563/
[12:30] <knome> lderan, that looks great :)
[12:30] <knome> brb
[14:22] <pleia2> knome: these are going to be in a magazine, so they'll show up pretty small, think you can make some of your shots so they'll shrink well?
[14:22] <pleia2> like xubuntu-autostart.png probably want to make it smaller
[14:22] <pleia2> I'm thinking we just want the application, not the whole desktop
[14:23] <pleia2> are you good with the articles? I'll send them off in a bit when I'm more awake if so :)
[14:23]  * pleia2 just got up for some water
[14:32] <lderan> knome, even more progress for you to check :P http://paste.ubuntu.com/5704881/
[14:56] <lderan> knome, also is this how you would like #info and #actions to be formatted in the summary? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5704946/
[15:14] <lsdma> Hi to all, Newbie at testing here. Iv'e got just a short question: while testing a Live Session all went fine except a game (gnome-sudoku) not starting. Shall i report it as failed, because the Testcase was not fullfilled? And if so shall i put that Bug into the critical Bug field?
[15:15] <holstein> lsdma: what test case? from the qa tracker?
[15:15] <lsdma> yes
[15:16] <holstein> lsdma: if it didnt pass, then, it didnt pass... is there a bug already?
[15:16] <lsdma> yepp 1124356
[15:17] <holstein> lsdma: sounds like you are doing it right
[15:19] <skellat> LP Bug #1124356


[05:39] <dileks> hi. good its called arch/arm64 :-)
[05:39] <dileks> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1324121/focus%3D1333603
[07:32]  * smb decides that having a cup of coffee standing in front of him probably is not enough...
[07:40] <apw> infinity, what was the arch name in debian for arm64 in the end
[07:41] <smb> aaaarch64?
[07:44] <apw> smb, dunno, dileks was just pointing out the kernel looks to be changing to arm64
[07:45] <smb> just being more than an hour ago but yeah
[07:45] <smb> they probably got too many puns for the other name
[07:46] <apw> indeed almost exactly two apparenly ...
[07:46]  * apw bets this means we end up with the same issues with name
[07:47] <apw> between debian and the kernel again ... sigh
[07:48] <smb> Why should they deserve a better fate than amd64/x86_64
[07:49]  * smb still feels more tired than before going to sleep...
[07:52] <infinity> apw: arm64.
[07:52] <infinity> apw: aarch64 is just the GNU triplet, the dpkg arch is arm64.
[07:53] <infinity> apw: You can thank me for that sanity. :P
[07:53] <apw> heh so we managed to get them inconsistenat anyhow
[07:53] <apw> thanks :)
[07:54] <infinity> apw: Yeah, people whined about the triplet/dpkg inconsistency, and I don't care.
[07:54] <infinity> apw: Making the triplet something that isn't arm* means that the tons of tools out there that assume arm* = aarch32 won't explode.
[07:54] <apw> having most of an arch name be arch is pretty uselss as its effectivly a64
[07:55] <apw> which is pretty greedy namespace wise
[07:55] <infinity> apw: Yeahp, but whatever.  Not my concern.  Anything !arm* is fine by me. :P
[07:57] <infinity> apw: Maybe someone will talk ARM into renaming the GNU triplet, but I'm kinda hoping not, as it will mean redoing all their toolchain patches, plus any bootstrap porting they've done.
[07:58] <infinity> apw: (Plus the above conflict, which means having to go over every single build system with a fine-toothed comb)
[08:03] <apw> infinity, its not sounding perfect indeed
[08:14] <dileks> I looked (quickly) over a bit that arm64/aarch64 patchset, so its a bit inconsistent in usage. in terms of "port" they mostly use "arm64", in case of arch(itecture) aarch64 is used. so there should be a clear usage of terms. for linux/arch/arm64/ that is what kernel people have expected
[08:14]  * dileks looked into ia32 below arch/ and naming of files, hmm, yes, what shall I say :-(
[09:21] <henrix> smb: fyi, i'm tagging bug #999755 as verified in oneiric
[09:22] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 999755 in linux "Kernel crash in rb_next doing ohai loops" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/999755
[09:22] <smb> henrix, Ok, cool. Yeah, it is as verified as it will get. Thanks
[09:22] <henrix> smb: :)
[11:21] <apw> warning warning will robinson ... X seems to be in quantal-proposed
[11:43] <smb> Friday sounds like the perfect day for that.
[11:51] <dileks> as Linux v3.6-rc1 is released... <http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Kernel-Log-Development-of-Linux-3-6-under-way-1657742.html>
[11:51] <dileks> apw: you read that "secret announce" about unionmounts in vfs pile #1?
[11:52] <dileks> preliminary support*
[11:52] <dileks> I am surprised noone asked when that will be ready2use
[11:53] <dileks> https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/7/22/17
[11:53] <dileks> to quote: "* preparatory bits from unionmount series (from dhowells)."
[11:54] <apw> oh great more transisions in my future
[11:54] <dileks> apw: just as a note "VFS: Split inode_permission()" (commit by dhowells)
[11:55] <dileks> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commitdiff;h=0bdaea9017b9d2b9996e153a71ee03555969b80e
[11:59] <dileks> remembering your work... an export is missing for "fs built as module"?
[11:59] <apw> yeah
[13:12] <smb> apw (and maybe bryceh is interested): bug 1032622
[13:12] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1032622 in xorg "ctrl+alt+l fail to start screenserver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032622
[13:12] <smb> (this seems to be related to pulling in the new X stack)
[13:13] <smb> or q-proposed in general
[13:13] <apw> yeah
[13:13] <apw> you should say that if you didn't
[13:13] <smb> I did
[13:13] <apw> great
[14:30] <arges> apw, hello. was it you or cking that was the resident acpi expert?
[14:30] <apw> arges, that'd be cking, but he is off for a bit, whats up
[14:30] <rtg> arges, cking, but he's out for 2 weeks
[14:31] <arges> rtg, apw : ah that's what i thought.   just looking at a report regarding apci,  pad.lv/1016617     looks like it works in centos but not in ubuntu. so was wondering if getting /proc/cmdline from the other distro would make sense to compare or if I need to look at something else
[14:32] <apw> bug #1016617
[14:32] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1016617 in acpi "Dell c6220 Unable to Reboot" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1016617
[14:33] <apw> I have found that by rebooting the server via the DRAC web interface will reboot the server correctly.
[14:33] <apw> arges, ^^ any idea what that even means ?
[14:34] <arges> apw, I'm guessing its the dell server management console, but i was going to verify
[14:34] <arges> Dell Remote Access Controller
[14:34] <arges> yes
[14:34] <apw> that may involve poweing the machine off then which we know also fixes the issue
[14:34] <apw> arges, the most likely difference between centos and us is kernel version
[14:34] <arges> apw, yea i'll get the kernel version and ask to try the similar ubuntu version
[14:35] <apw> as there is an indication that nolapic works for them you might look see if there is a quirk for htat, i suspect there is
[14:35] <arges> apw, well looks like it helps with the reboot part, but not the boot up part after software reboot
[14:37] <arges> apw, yea they got it to work using 2.6.18 ... so pretty ancient
[14:39]  * ogasawara back in 20
[14:39] <apw> yeah a million years old
[14:40] <arges> wow it was released march 2012
[14:42] <henrix> fwiw, they use "2.6.18", not 2.6.18 -- its a *really* heavily patched version.
[14:43] <arges> yup
[14:43] <henrix> i had to use centos 2 years ago, and their kernel is very different from the mainline version
[14:43] <mjg59> If it's the standard Dell BIOS issue it'll also go away if you disable x2apic support
[14:44] <apw> mjg59, as in nox2apic on the kernel command line ?
[14:44] <arges> mjg59, ah. is this done via the bios?
[14:45] <henrix> i guess he meant the kernel param nox2apic
[14:45] <henrix> oh, apw had already suggested that :)
[14:45] <ohsix> what's an irq injection attack
[14:46] <arges> henrix, well they tried nolacpi, but i'll suggest nox2apic
[14:46] <arges> mjg59, thanks
[14:48] <mjg59> If that works then it's a BIOS bug
[14:48] <mjg59> And it's not easy for Linux to work around it
[15:44] <rtg> apw, ogasawara: pushed 3.6-rc1 for ubuntu-r. it builds for x86en. have not boot tested yet.
[15:44] <ogasawara> rtg: ack, thanks
[15:45] <rtg> back to firmware patches...
[15:46]  * apw was looking at what was in -rc1 it looks like a huge upheaval especially in VFS we should be wary about moving there as i suspect aufs and overlyafs are going to break hideously
[15:46] <rtg> apw, aufs, overlayfs, and raid4-5 are all disabled for now
[15:47] <apw> rtg, thought they might have to be, there is some union-mounts basis going in there which will collide hideously
[16:08] <apw> ogasawara, ok pushed -- pulled all the commits together so we can squish them next time round
[16:08] <ogasawara> apw: ack
[16:08] <rtg> apw, quantal ?
[16:14] <apw> rtg yep quantal, refreshed aufs and pulled the commits together so we can clean them up and drop them easy depending
[16:38] <jwi> jsalisbury: for bug 1028151, testing on 3.3 is a red herring - 3.3 doesn't have the relaxed dmi check that was cherry-picked to precise. so you're back to a situation where samsung_laptop.ko isn't loaded and can't cause havoc.
[16:38] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1028151 in linux "Samsung Series 900 Laptop brightness control issue" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028151
[16:38] <jsalisbury> jwi, ahh right.  makes sense
[16:38] <jwi> but f34cd9ca932087 upstream sounds like it could help
[16:40] <jsalisbury> jwi, cool, I'll take a look.  Thanks!
[16:44] <jwi> jsalisbury: and for bug 1021086, e19ebcab01cc130fa is trickling down through 3.5-stable
[16:44] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1021086 in linux "Kernel Panic when re-enabling wifi via Fn+F2 on Dell XPS 15z" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1021086
[16:44] <jsalisbury> jwi, great, thanks!
[17:25]  * henrix -> EOD
[17:25] <herton> jjohansen, are you maintaining qrt? I just filled a bug for a minor issue I noticed here (bug 1032743)
[17:25] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1032743 in qa-regression-testing "ptrace-restrictions.sh will fail if LC_MESSAGES or LC_ALL is set to something undesired (non english error messages)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032743
[17:25] <herton> jjohansen, by qrt, I mean the security tests on it
[17:26] <jjohansen> herton: okay I'll take a look
[17:26] <herton> jjohansen, thanks
[17:32]  * smb -> EOD
[17:42]  * rtg -> lunch
[19:04]  * apw -> beer
[19:23]  * ogasawara lunch
[20:12] <rtg> ogasawara, we've accumulated quite a stack of patches in quantal master-next. are you thinking about uploading today ?
[20:23]  * rtg -> EOW
[20:23] <ogasawara> rtg: I wasn't planning one for today, but it should be trivial to do.  let me kick off some test builds and then I'll upload.
[20:24] <rtg> ogasawara, ack, I'll watch for build failures over the weekend.


[00:11] <BSE> I have 1 gig swap and as you said, rarely using any :)
[02:05] <histo> God annoying bug with xfce4-terminal alt+2 stops working all th etime in the terminal for somereaosn.
[02:05] <histo> Makes switching between windows annoying
[04:09] <Kimi> HI
[04:09] <Kimi> when i open browser or xchat
[04:09] <Kimi> its not showing up in
[04:09] <Kimi> task bar
[04:09] <Kimi> help me
[04:14] <Kimi> anyone online ??
[05:55] <Moodier> is there a consolidated page with changes/additions from 8.10 to 9.04?
[06:06] <Moodier> i dunno if i should upgrade when it becomes official...
[06:07] <forces> for xubuntu
[06:08] <cody-somerville> 9.04 has a new version of Xfce
[06:08] <forces> xfce 4.6, ext4 support, linux 2.6.28...
[06:08] <forces> openoffice 3
[06:08] <forces> i will install as soon as will be released
[06:08] <Moodier> hmm... is there an official list somewhere?
[06:09] <Moodier> i cannot find it on ubuntu.com or google
[06:09] <forces> look in www.xubuntu.org
[06:09] <forces> www.ubuntu.com have a list
[06:09] <Moodier> is .org official? the nub/ugly design looks somewhat suspicious...
[06:10] <cody-somerville> ugly design?
[06:11] <Moodier> ubuntu.org does not look related to the ubuntu linux project... is it related?
[06:11] <cody-somerville> ubuntu.org is indeed
[06:11] <cody-somerville> Moodier, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/JauntyJackalope/RC for the release candidate announcement
[06:12] <forces> Moodier, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904overview
[06:13] <Moodier> ahh, cool. thanks cody-somerville and forces. i see the highlights of changes
[06:13] <Moodier> ubuntu.org does indeed look ugly however -- and somewhat unrelated to their linux project
[06:14] <Moodier> do you know when the RC is going to move into production?
[06:14] <Moodier> i thought it was supposed to be several days ago...
[06:19] <forces> 4 days
[06:19] <Moodier> forces: kewl
[06:21] <Moodier> if i were to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04, but i had uninstalled Listen, will Listen be re-installed again after the upgrade?
[06:21] <Moodier> or for that matter, anything else i had uninstalled from 8.10
[06:23] <Moodier> i also made modifications to the font colors (i.e. Abiword)... will those changes remain if i upgrade to 9.04?
[06:30] <zoredache> how did you make changes to the font colors?
[06:31] <zoredache> if you changed something in /etc, or /home your changes should be touched
[06:32] <Moodier> i had to change ~/.gtkrc-2.0 -- so that will remain untouched upon upgrade?
[06:33] <Moodier> "your changes should be touched" -- not sure what that means
[06:40] <zoredache> sorry, was thinking backwards..
[06:40] <cody-somerville> Moodier, are your personal settings will be retained
[06:40] <cody-somerville> *all
[06:40] <zoredache> the upgrade shouldn't break anything under ~/
[06:41] <Moodier> what about custom uninstallations from the base xubuntu 8.10 original distro? will those be re-installed?
[06:41] <zoredache> did you have to remove the xubuntu-desktop package to uninstall things?
[06:42] <Moodier> hmmm.... i don't think so.. i used sudo apt-remove specific packages
[07:22] <Hetor_> hey
[07:24] <Slonkie> !hi | Hetor_
[09:07] <chewit> Xfce 4.6.1 is out. Will it be uploaded to Jaunty's updates?
[09:25] <bambam_> hi
[09:25] <bambam_> anyone in here usin e17?
[11:46] <askand> Hi! Currently xubuntu shows the folder Deskop on the Desktop, how do I get it to show the folder Skrivbord (desktop in Swedish) instead?
[12:25] <Lusule_> hi there :)  i'm trying to create a live-disk for xubuntu from the iso in windows, but I only have dvd-rw disks and i can't find a dvd iso anywhere, will it still work okay if i use the cd iso?
[12:30] <tavasti> Lusule_, I think cd iso should be ok
[12:32] <Lusule_> thanks :)
[12:37] <cylonia> Hi all, having trouble getting eth0 interface working, lost it on 2 laptops a couple of days ago after an update .. both machines running xubuntu 8.10 .. is it normal that "ifconfig -a" reports eth0 as UP and nm-applet show "no network connection" ?
[13:05] <Moodier> cylonia: that's happened to me before -- could be that wired/wireless option is not checked in nm-applet
[13:06] <cylonia> Moodier: yes, i double-checked that, enable networking is checked
[13:08] <Moodier> cylonia: does ping work?
[13:11] <cylonia> Moodier: yes it does, i also lost keyboard/touchpads on both laptops at the same time as the wired connection, so i had to check in tty, but it does ping allright
[13:14] <cylonia> lynx works as well in tty, seems like network-manager is acting strangely, going to reinstall it and see what gives, thx moodier
[13:14] <Moodier> cylonia: if you lost keyboard, touchpad, and wired connection simultaneously, something is seriously wrong w/ your system -- it's not simply an ethernet issue
[13:15] <Moodier> cylonia: try a sudo apt-get update and upgrade
[13:15] <cylonia> Moodier: ok thx, trying ...
[13:22] <cylonia> Moodier: can't say i fully understand why, but network connection is up and working, although nm-applet shows "no connection" .. thanks for your help :)
[13:23] <Moodier> cylonia: did you try sudo apt-get update and upgrade?
[13:24] <cylonia> Moodier: yes, it works
[13:24] <cylonia> just received an update, so now only the keyboard/touchpad issue remains
[13:24] <Moodier> cylonia: those commands checks to see if you have any missing dependencies or outdated software and installs them
[13:25] <Moodier> cylonia: did your keyboard/touchpad ever work? if it broke, what were you doing when it broke?
[13:26] <cylonia> Moodier: okay, it didn't report missing dependencies, both laptops were running fine for over a year on xubuntu so yes it worked before .. things broke after an update of pulseaudio and tzdata two days ago
[13:27] <cylonia> Moodier: although i wouldn't think pulseaudio would mess with network configuration would it ?
[13:28] <Moodier> cylonia: not sure
[13:29] <Moodier> cylonia: i wouldn't think so
[13:29] <cylonia> Moodier: i already checked for possible bugs on the latest pulseaudio update on launchpad, nothing related showed up indeed
[13:29] <Moodier> cylonia: does your keyboard/trackpad completely not work at all?
[13:30] <cylonia> Moodier: both work in tty's but not in X
[13:30] <Moodier> cylonia: could be a problem with xfce then
[13:30] <Moodier> how are you starting X?
[13:31] <cylonia> Moodier: via gdm running a regular xfce session
[13:33] <Moodier> cylonia: read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1040677
[13:34] <cylonia> Moodier: i thought the newer Xorg configured keyboard/touchpad etc. via HAL ? going over some documentation at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/InputHotplug .. looking into your link thank you
[13:37] <Moodier> cylonia: you can also try reconfiguring xserver: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:38] <Moodier> cylonia: if you want to brush up on it, read http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/how_to_fix_your_computers_graphics_with_dpkg-reconfigure
[13:39] <cylonia> Moodier: okay, looks like i need to read up on things, thanks again for your help :)
[13:40] <Moodier> cylonia: np
[14:56] <Ruadh> Hi all
[15:07] <Kimi> my xubuntu wubi cannot access windows drives D E and F
[15:28] <Ruadh> re
[15:36] <Pres-Gas> Hey all.
[15:37] <Pres-Gas> Is power management with straight xubuntu different than ubuntu?  I cannot seem to get my lappy to sleep on lid close with the RC of xubu.
[15:38] <Pres-Gas> I thought I set it in xubu's power settings.
[15:53] <cody-somerville> Pres-Gas, it should work
[15:55] <Pres-Gas> cody-somerville, do you think it needs a restart?
[15:56] <cody-somerville> Pres-Gas, won't hurt :)
[15:56] <Pres-Gas> It just so happens that I have it off...so I guess it is a delayed restart  ;)
[15:56] <gorgut> Hey guys, i'm trying to use the NX web-interface plugin... how do I create a session file?
[15:57] <Pres-Gas> This is my first ragin' full on xubu install.  I usually install Ubu (for support purposes) and then put xubu on top of that.
[16:27] <FelineMonstrosit> hi
[16:28] <FelineMonstrosit> I have a problem - can anyone help me?
[16:28] <charlie-tca> !question
[16:29] <FelineMonstrosit> my resolution was weird when I booted up today so I corrected it by adjusting my CRT monitor. However it's now all distorted and I've tried running Freeciv and Wormux and their windows are both too big to fit on the screen and I can't find any way around this problem. help?
[16:31] <FelineMonstrosit> I'm quite sure my resolution was higher before (1024*768 I think) but the highest I can get it is 960*540
[16:38] <Pres-Gas> FelineMonstrosit, if you do (from the terminal) "xvidtune -show" it will output what your current resolution is.  You don't have to run it as admin.
[16:42] <FelineMonstrosit> Right now it's 960*600. Is there any way I can set it maunally?
[16:44] <Pres-Gas> FelineMonstrosit, can you go into the settings manager and then select Display and bump it up that way?
[16:45] <FelineMonstrosit> Like I said the highest it will let me set it is 900*540
[16:46] <Pres-Gas> FelineMonstrosit, what is your graphics card?
[16:47] <FelineMonstrosit> dunno. pretty bad I'm sure - this is an old computer. how can I check?
[16:51] <Pres-Gas> FelineMonstrosit, try lspci
[16:54] <FelineMonstrosit> Hm. I don't understand (I'm afraid I'm very new to ubuntu)
[16:56] <Pres-Gas> You will have to run the command "lspci|less" in the terminal and look for something like "VGA compatible controller"
[17:01] <Pres-Gas> Okay, I don't seem to have jre running on my machine even though it is installed via xubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:02] <Pres-Gas> I see the openjdk jre installed
[17:02] <Pres-Gas> hmmm...
[17:03] <FelineMonstrosit> "VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter"
[17:07] <chewit> Xfce 4.6.1 is out. Will it be uploaded to the Jaunty Updates?
[17:08] <Pres-Gas> Okay, FelineMonstrosit, I would do a google search with:  Silicon Integrated Systems 65x/M650/740 linux resolution
[17:08] <Pres-Gas> see what pops up
[17:08] <FelineMonstrosit> ok
[17:09] <Pres-Gas> ...unless someone here chimes in...you could also try the #ubuntu channel
[17:09] <charlie-tca> chewit: I think that is the plan right now. It won't make the final release, since their is not enough time.
[17:09] <Hetor> talking about Xfce...
[17:09] <chewit> ah ok
[17:09] <Pres-Gas> FelineMonstrosit, tell them the card make and model...
[17:09] <Hetor> if I upgrade my Xfce 4.4 installation to 4.6, will my settings work properly?
[17:09] <charlie-tca> no, Hetor. There are complete configuration changes.
[17:10] <Hetor> oh noes
[17:10] <Hetor> I have spend 30 minutes of my life in vine :|
[17:10] <Lusule_> hi there :) i have a small problem, I was fiddling with my panel, tried moving the icon list from one panel to another and all my panels seem to have disappeared, i can't get htem back and choosing the 'panel' settings doesn't do anything anymore
[17:11] <Hetor> so... themes for 4.4 won't work too? :'(
[17:11] <charlie-tca> I don't "vine", but maybe those are going to work.
[17:11] <charlie-tca> !panels
[17:11] <charlie-tca> Themes should still work
[17:11] <Hetor> nice
[17:11] <charlie-tca> but if you upgrade and try to keep the ~/.config, it breaks
[17:12] <Lusule_> thanks charlie-tca that fixed it :)
[17:12] <charlie-tca> Lusule_: You are welcome
[17:13] <Hetor> how sad to hear it after I've just ended decorating my Xfce desktop
[17:13] <charlie-tca> :(
[17:13] <Hetor> I'll have to redo everything again... that sucks
[17:13] <charlie-tca> Sorry, but the good news is 8.10 is valid for another year!
[17:14] <Hetor> I gonna upgrade to 9.04 anyway
[17:14] <charlie-tca> I am using it. I think it is way better than 8.10
[17:14] <Hetor> not a fan of beta testing
[17:15] <Hetor> I prefer stable releases
[17:15] <charlie-tca> final should be out thursday
[17:15] <Hetor> yeah I know
[17:15] <charlie-tca> Testing has been fun... my system only went down a little bit, and broke for just a few days at a time.
[17:16] <Hetor> heh
[17:16] <Hetor> will beta testers be able to upgrade to final realease?
[17:16] <charlie-tca> As long it is kept upgraded, it is automatic
[17:16] <charlie-tca> s/upgraded/updated
[17:23] <noumaan> I want to test some translations on XFCE I am using ubuntu 8.10 with gnome and xfce both. How do I check these translations?
[17:24] <noumaan> I have copied the files to /usr/share/locale/ur folder already but during the login my language is not in the list of languages even though I have installed support for it from System > Administration > Language support
[17:24] <Hetor> uhh, client crashed
[18:29] <magaio> How can I sort the icons on the Desktop?
[18:31] <magaio> in XFCE?
[18:37] <kromar> hi
[18:37] <Slonkie> !hi | kromar
[18:38] <kromar> i had a problem with blender which locked everything and i had to power off the computer to get it running again. now it wont open anymore, i tried reinstalling it but it doesent help:( any idea how to fix this?
[18:41] <CppIsWeird> how do i clear out a saved session for logging on?
[18:43] <Lusule_> how come I can't find the Opera browser in synaptic?
[18:44] <kromar> asked myself the same question... just download it from their page
[18:46] <kromar> if you already installed it you can find it in the "installed (local or obsolete)" section
[18:46] <kromar> nobody knows how to fix the blender problem?
[18:48] <Pres-Gas> Lusule_, did you enable the partner repos in the Third_Party software tab?
[18:49] <charlie-tca> !info opera
[18:49] <Pres-Gas> charlie-tca, yeah, just saw that as well
[18:49] <Pres-Gas> :P
[18:49] <Lusule_> Pres-Gas, ah no, I shall have to look into that, thanks
[18:50] <Pres-Gas> Lusule_, it may not be there...you may have to install it direct from their site
[18:50] <Lusule_> i find it weird that they don't have opera, anyone know the reason?
[18:50] <charlie-tca> and opera was not in Hardy
[18:50] <Lusule_> charlie-tca, i've been using gentoo for ages
[18:51] <charlie-tca> I don't know  if it was in 7.10 or not.
[18:51] <charlie-tca> Is opera being maintaing?
[18:51] <charlie-tca> maintained
[18:51] <Lusule_> appears so from the webpage, they've got tonnes of cool new stuff
[18:52] <charlie-tca> Maybe it was not for a while, or it was broken bad for a while. Now it would need a maintainer to package it.
[18:52] <Lusule_> i remember it being a bit crap in the past, looks like some professional company has now taken an interest
[18:52] <Lusule_> because i've been using it for a while and it's fantastic
[18:54] <kromar> how can i get blender starting again?
[19:40] <kromar> how can i start blender with a custom window size? for example 1024x768?
[19:41] <Photoguy> Yeah, kromar needs help..
[19:41] <Caffeine> hi
[19:41] <Photoguy> Someone help him please.
[19:41] <knome> Photoguy, ehem?
[19:41] <Photoguy> knome, What?
[19:42] <knome> nothing.
[19:42] <Photoguy> PM me...there is something wrong.
[19:42] <knome> not really
[19:42] <knome> :]
[19:42] <Photoguy> Ok
[19:43] <Caffeine> how do I get Xfce 4.6.1 installed in Xubuntu 9.04? Is there a repository with the latest packages?
[19:43] <knome> Caffeine, not yet at least.
[19:43] <charlie-tca> Caffeine: it is not packaged yet for xubuntu
[19:43] <Caffeine> too bad :(
[19:43] <charlie-tca> What are the important changes?
[19:44] <knome> charlie-tca, bigger di... version number
[19:44] <charlie-tca> kromar: you may need to ask in #ubuntu, they will have more users
[19:44] <Caffeine> when the packages are ready, will an installation instruction published on xubuntu.org?
[19:44] <charlie-tca> knome: that is what I was thinking, too
[19:44] <charlie-tca> Caffeine: what are the important changes?
[19:44] <Caffeine> charlie-tca, mostly bugfixes
[19:44] <knome> kromar, or #blender
[19:45] <charlie-tca> When it is ready, it will probably be updated in Xubuntu 9.04
[19:45] <Caffeine> charlie-tca, see http://www.xfce.org/documentation/changelogs/4.6.1
[19:45] <knome> Caffeine, we know.
[19:45] <knome> Caffeine, charlie-tca wanted to know if there if was some specifig bug fix you need?
[19:45] <charlie-tca> I just wanted to know what was so important, to get to it as soos as possible?
[19:45] <Caffeine> oh, i see
[19:46] <Caffeine> no :) just love bleeding edge ;)
[19:46] <charlie-tca> So, are you running jaunty?
[19:46] <Caffeine> yep
[19:47] <charlie-tca> Give us about two months, you will have karmic to play with
[19:47] <Caffeine> ok, to be honest, most time I wait until the final release. With jaunty however I couldn't resist and installed the beta
[19:48] <Caffeine> alphas are a no-go for me however
[19:48] <charlie-tca> alphas are bleeding edge.
[19:48] <knome> pre-alpha is over the edge
[19:48] <knome> ;)
[19:49] <Caffeine> riight ;)
[19:49] <charlie-tca> So, Caffeine, you are ready to break jaunty, but won't test an OS alpha
[19:49] <knome> tbh i would be ready to install anything on my machine as somebody else maintains it
[19:49] <knome> in my *production* machine
[19:50] <knome> i depend on so little apps that doesn't really matter as long as it boots
[19:50] <Caffeine> that's a bit different ... if Xfce 4.6.1 breaks, I can still downgrade. but a whole OS?
[19:50] <charlie-tca> oh-oh. that is almost always a bad idea on production machines
[19:51] <charlie-tca> I have run jaunty since alpha2, it only broke the system a few days at a time.
[19:51] <Caffeine> by the way, however here is working on (X)ubuntu, you did a great job! I've been a KDE guy from the start but I really like Xubuntu/Xfce
[19:52] <Caffeine> however = whoever
[19:52] <charlie-tca> I can pass that to the developers. I just test
[19:52] <knome> charlie-tca, thanks.
[19:52] <charlie-tca> yw, knome
[19:52] <knome> charlie-tca, passed.
[19:52] <charlie-tca> Great
[19:52] <knome> the thanks was meant to Caffeine, but isn't wrong even for you
[19:53] <Caffeine> knome, is that KDE + Gnome? ;)
[19:53]  * charlie-tca thought little guys on travelocity...
[19:53] <knome> Caffeine, nope, it's xfce :>
[19:54] <Caffeine> KDE + Gnome = Xfve
[19:54] <Caffeine> Xfce ... i knew it
[19:55] <knome> ;)
[19:56] <knome> i actually had this nick before knowing the linux world this much.
[19:56] <knome> i was still using windows and wanted a nick starting with k, and i had gnome previously and that lead to many nick clashes
[19:56] <knome> that's why -> knome
[19:57] <Caffeine> ah, ok
[20:10] <n2diy> my dvd doesn't automount?
[20:16] <BooVeMan_work> hi there - I got a laptop from a friend which has a fairly messed up installation - when booting the system will show an undecorated dialog box saying something like "No gnome installation found entering recovery console" - not literally as the system is in Spanish, The point is I can't for the love of it get rid of the gnome stuff - I followed a howto from psychocats.net how the remove anything from ubuntu  and have a pure xubuntu system but no
[20:16] <BooVeMan_work> the x11 runs gdm as display manager - is that correct?
[20:17] <knome> BooVeMan_work, yes.
[20:17] <BooVeMan_work> (I'm a kubuntu user - so I have no reference system
[20:17] <BooVeMan_work> so how do I tell the system to startup xfce and not genome?
[20:18] <knome> BooVeMan_work, in gdm, there should be a session selector
[20:18] <BooVeMan_work> right no selector
[20:18] <zoredache> did you have autologin enabled?
[20:18] <BooVeMan_work> I never get that far
[20:18] <BooVeMan_work> no
[20:18] <BooVeMan_work> (that would bein gdm.conf - right?
[20:19] <BooVeMan_work> zoredache: autologin is configured in gdm.conf?
[20:19] <knome> BooVeMan_work, if you don't have autologin, you should be able to change the session
[20:19] <BooVeMan_work> I never get a login-prompt
[20:20] <knome> so you have the autologin
[20:20] <BooVeMan_work> knome: thats configures in gdm.conf?
[20:20] <knome> BooVeMan_work, not sure where it's configured
[20:20] <zoredache> are you sure you are translating the error message correctly?
[20:22] <BooVeMan_work> guess so hows your spanish? "No se pudo encontrar la instalación de Gnome"
[20:23] <BooVeMan_work> in gdm.conf I have AutoLoginEnabled=false
[20:23] <BooVeMan_work> AutoLogin=
[20:27] <Kangarooo> i have vlc and totem but none of the is playing .wma files .. audio wma on totm says error - Windows Media Speech decoder required
[20:28] <knome> BooVeMan_work, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4752601&postcount=6
[20:28] <knome> !info xubuntu-restricted-extras | Kangarooo
[20:28] <knome> Kangarooo, try to install that
[20:29] <Kangarooo> libavcodec52 will be removed libavutil49 will be removed.. thats ok?
[20:30] <knome> Kangarooo, if something similar is installed, then it is ok
[20:30] <BooVeMan_work> knome: thanks will try that
[20:30] <knome> BooVeMan_work, np.
[20:36] <Kangarooo> knome: no didnt helped
[20:37] <knome> Kangarooo, right.
[20:38] <knome> !wma | Kangarooo
[20:38] <Kangarooo> totem gives still same error and vlc playback line goes but no sound but when change audio cahannel in vlc to audio 1 i get error   p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }  No suitable decoder module: VLC does not support the audio or video format "wmas". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this.
[20:39] <knome> "wmas" or "wma" ?
[20:40] <Kangarooo> file is wma but vlc gave that error .. and in forums i found thtat restricted are not helping that why im in irc asking :)
[20:41] <Kangarooo> in forums some ppl even used wine and windows player ...
[20:41] <Kangarooo> i can send wma file>? on irc..
[20:42] <knome> ah, wmas is some kind of drm-file? :P
[20:43] <Kangarooo> i dont know.. extension is wma
[20:43] <Kangarooo> 90 Seconds or Less1a.wma
[20:43] <knome> sounds like one.
[20:43] <Kangarooo> whats drm?
[20:43] <knome> digital rights management
[20:44] <Kangarooo> ou yeah in forums some ppl were talking about thuse digital rights managemet files
[20:44] <knome> google for more information, you should know by now :P
[20:44] <BooVeMan_work> hmm - alright the gnome thingy disapeared - now I have a black screen with the circular thingy rotating and nothing more
[20:44] <BooVeMan_work> like something in the gdm instalation is screwed
[20:44] <knome> BooVeMan_work, maybe reinstall gdm?
[20:45] <BooVeMan_work> I already tried a dpkg-reconfigure -plow gdm
[20:45] <BooVeMan_work> still no dice
[20:45] <BooVeMan_work> or do you mead remove gdm an reinstall xubuntu-desktop?
[20:46] <BooVeMan_work> (and delete anything related to gdm between)
[20:46] <knome> i'm not sure...
[20:46] <knome> maybe reinstalling (remove --purge & install) would help
[20:46] <BooVeMan_work> ll try that
[20:47] <BooVeMan_work> what else may be the couse that I'm not presented a login - AUtoLogin is Definatly not enabled
[20:47] <knome> yeah
[20:50] <Aquina> 'lo
[21:44] <loren_> Can someone help me with an error when I try to open synaptic package manager I get this message E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[21:44] <loren_> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[21:44] <loren_> what should I do?
[21:44] <charlie-tca> loren_: open a terminal and type "dpkg --configure -a" and hit enter
[21:45] <loren_> o-k
[21:46] <loren_> all I get in the next line is > is it o-k now?
[21:47] <loren_> did I do something wrong
[21:47] <BooVeMan_work> no misstypes something
[21:47] <BooVeMan_work> without the "
[21:47] <loren_> I'll try again
[21:48] <loren_> do I put any spaces and " in the command
[21:49] <loren_> all I get is >
[21:49] <loren_> o-k
[21:49] <charlie-tca> HIt Ctrl+c and leave out the quotes only
[21:49] <BooVeMan_work> do not put the "
[21:49] <charlie-tca> got to have the spaces.
[21:50] <loren_> o-k I'm doing something wrong please wait a minute
[21:51] <loren_> loren@loren-desktop:~$
[21:51] <loren_>  Did I do it right?
[21:51] <charlie-tca> yes
[21:51] <loren_> thank you very much:)
[21:52] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[21:52] <loren_> I appreciate your help
[21:52] <loren_> bye
[21:52] <charlie-tca> no problem.
[21:52] <charlie-tca> come back again
[21:59] <loren> loren@loren-desktop:~$ dpkg --configure -a
[21:59] <loren> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[21:59] <loren> what do I do now?
[22:00] <BooVeMan_work> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:00] <loren> o-k
[22:00] <BooVeMan_work> It'll ask you for you pwd
[22:01] <loren> loren@loren-desktop:~$
[22:01] <loren>  It did ask and install something and now I'm back to this
[22:01] <loren> is it o-k now?
[22:02] <charlie-tca> yes, you should be able to use synaptic again now. Be sure to hit the reload arrow in the top left corner, though.,
[22:03] <loren> It's working now thank you again very much:)
[22:06] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[23:37] <SliMM> help
[23:38] <SliMM> most of my file associations are all messed up


[06:34] <gnrp> ups, went to bed then...
[06:34] <gnrp> and anyway, he went to the keyboard settings, not to the window manager settings...
[06:34] <Unit193> Sl..eep?
[06:34] <gnrp> Unit193: I am ashamed myself of being so weak :/
[14:27] <syed_776588> Hey all. I could use some help. So I had Xubuntu and Windows 7 on dual boot on an ideapad laptop. I had a headphone jack issue and official support told me to update the BIOS which I did. Now when I booted Xubuntu next time and rebooted the whole thing became excruciatingly slow. The bios screen would stare me for more than three minutes. Any actio
[14:27] <syed_776588> n like "entering setup" or using a boot device using F2/F12 would take almost as long.
[14:28] <syed_776588> Now I erased Xubuntu and fixed grub running boot-repair from a live ubuntu session. The problem persisted and almost felt like it got worse. The boot takes an upwards of 5 minutes now from leaving the BIOS screen alone. As mentioned before, any other action like F2/F12 takes the same amont of time
[14:29] <syed_776588> So what I'm asking is, will clean installing Ubuntu and erasing everything fix the problem?
[14:30] <diogenes_> syed_776588, unfortunately that is not os problem but bios or hdd, to rule out hdd you could try to boot without hdd.
[14:32] <syed_776588> Well the thing is that I can't rollback BIOS either. Official support tells me that it's a bad idea (they don't offer older bios versions in any case). They tell me to use the official recovery tool OneKey recovery which I can't use because it needs a "hidden partition" which I apparently don't have.
[14:34] <syed_776588> So... what should I do? I just want to use Linux on this crappy laptop, I just kept Windows for running some stuff which I don't need right now. I sold my PC and I'm pretty much broke. I could deal with slow boot but this is something else; sometimes the BIOS lingers on for five minutes...
[21:01] <Spass[m]> is there any option I could put into Catfish's catfish.rc to stop it from remembering the window position?
[21:02] <Spass[m]> Catfish 1.4.8


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[04:40] <AskUbuntu> Remote X ? new efficent client | http://askubuntu.com/q/319802
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[23:22] <Max_Tither> Hello, I have a qt question for playing an online audio stream using the ubuntu sdk
[23:22] <Max_Tither> Is there anyone who could assist me?
[23:23] <Max_Tither> Does qml out of the box support playing the stream, or do I have to add the c++ module?
[23:31] <Max_Tither> Luke_1 Do you know anything about c++, the ubuntu sdk, and qml?