[03:10] <floatboat> what can i do about this error: http://dpaste.com/119971/
[03:10] <Kkoala> of the two
[03:11] <Kkoala> I can send it to you
[03:11] <xiaopi> I was telling ghang who just asked the same for it ;)
[03:11] <fearful> taz you can't go to check version still
[03:11] <loveissuicide> xiaopi: sorry
[03:11] <Kkoala> then again...........
[03:11] <timahvo1> Kkoala: paste the download link here
[03:11] <taz> fearful:   check in terminal ??
[03:11] <fearful> no on the website
[03:12] <Kkoala> one min
[03:12] <_2> dmphotography one example for you.   grep -HiRe '^and' ./somedir/   # that will search all files recursively for lines that begin with "and" (case insensitive) and display the filename with the line/s it finds.
[03:12] <fearful> whats the command to view the drivers? i forget
[03:12] <floatboat> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12910 Feb 12 22:10 /var/lib/ntop/prefsCache.db
[03:12] <_2> dmphotography like i said it's a powerful tool
[03:13] <dmphotography> _2: Thank you very much.  I'm looking at the man for it now.
[03:13] <Kkoala> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=152032&package_id=211726&release_id=487054
[03:13] <Kkoala> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/humaitrader/aiotrade-bin-1.0.3a.zip?modtime=1171689239&big_mirror=0
[03:14] <ghang> xiaopi , thanks , i will do it
[03:14] <timahvo1> Kkoala: ok will get back to you soon
[03:14] <ghang> i am using 2.5 lol , i will try it now
[03:14] <Kkoala> ok
[03:14] <Kkoala> great
[03:15] <booksbuggy> hmmm i wonder if Consulta fully read my message
[03:15] <taz> fearful: java version "1.6.0_0"
[03:15] <taz> IcedTea6 1.3.1 (6b12-0ubuntu6.1) Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_0-b12)
[03:15] <taz> OpenJDK Client VM (build 1.6.0_0-b12, mixed mode, sharing)
[03:15] <fearful> on the website?
[03:15] <fearful> taz on the website
[03:15] <bullgard4> What does mean "given a pathname for a file" in man 2 open? Does it exactly mean "You need to put in a pathname in the C function 'int open(const char *pathname, int flags);' in order that the C function open returns the associated file descriptor for the file whose path I have put in? Or what does "Given a pathname for a file" mean exactly here?
[03:15] <Kkoala> how do i find if I have jre installed
[03:15] <fearful> kkoala java -version on the terminal
[03:15] <Furu> leo_rockway nope my laptop didnt have that. now i changed my resolution to 756x546 and now i cant change back
[03:15] <Furu> :P
[03:15] <taz> fearful: i got it from tererminal
[03:15] <sophia> #sdl
[03:16] <booksbuggy> because after entering the code the computer will still stuck at halt for one last time then it will shut down automatically
[03:16] <Furu> I changed my resolution to 756x546 and now i cant change back:P anyone got any idea why?
[03:16] <booksbuggy> after that shutdown
[03:16] <Kkoala> java version "1.6.0_0"
[03:16] <Kkoala> IcedTea6 1.3.1 (6b12-0ubuntu6.1) Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_0-b12)
[03:16] <Kkoala> OpenJDK Client VM (build 1.6.0_0-b12, mixed mode, sharing)
[03:16] <booksbuggy> hmmm
[03:17] <Kkoala> is that it
[03:17] <taz> fearful: java version "1.6.0_0"
[03:17] <taz> IcedTea6 1.3.1 (6b12-0ubuntu6.1) Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_0-b12)
[03:17] <taz> OpenJDK Client VM (build 1.6.0_0-b12, mixed mode, sharing)
[03:17] <booksbuggy> I bet Consulta will rage back if he didn't fully read my message
[03:18] <sophia> anyone knows abt sdl firefox player?
[03:18] <fearful> taz http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
[03:18] <sigma92> hey guys, i'm trying to get more information about my desktop's power usage using acpi -V. Unfortunately the temperature reading is always 40 C (it's not in reality) and it doesn't display power usage. do i ahve to do something...?
[03:18] <taz> fearful: Oops! You don't have the recommended Java installed.
[03:18] <taz> Your Java version is 1.6.0_0. Please click the button below to get the recommended Java for your
[03:19] <sigma92> also powertop doesn't work right
[03:19] <O__o> is there a windows version of Nautilus?
[03:19] <fearful> taz well lol I get the same message, ok lets try another way to test
[03:19] <_2> sigma92 might install lm-sensors - utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors
[03:19] <taz> fearful : ok
[03:19] <[NB]> u could do that with conky too
[03:20] <sigma92> is that in the repos?
[03:20] <_2> sigma92 yes,   then run sensors-detect
[03:20] <booksbuggy> hmmm i think Consulta didn't fully read my message
[03:21] <sigma92> what's sensors-detect do
[03:21] <_2> sigma92 it will help you find what modules you may need to add to /etc/modules  to get all that working properly.    at least that's the old school way
[03:21] <fearful> taz check somewhere if its working
[03:21] <taz> fearful: how ?
[03:21] <sigma92> _2:  thanks!
[03:21] <fearful> taz I don't understand what your issue is here, test if your problem is fixed..
[03:22] <_2> sigma92 welcome
[03:22] <sigma92> _2: is that stuff automatically installed on lappies?
[03:22] <taz> only cant play in www.pogo.com
[03:22] <sandeep> what to now that I have lm - sensors?
[03:22] <_2> sigma92 not that i am aware of
[03:22] <sigma92> oh
[03:22] <_2> sandeep run   sensors-detect
[03:22] <loveissuicide>  isn't any support for blu ray yet?
[03:23] <_2> i would hope so
[03:23] <sandeep> thanks!!!!!!!!!!
[03:23] <taz> fearful:   maybe block something like that ???
[03:24] <fearful> taz yes but, what are you trying to do that you say its not working, are you trying to access something with java on firefox?
[03:24] <booksbuggy> well he didn't fully read my instructions XD
[03:24] <snakedoc> tritium, still gone?
[03:24] <tritium> snakedoc: I'm back
[03:25] <taz> yes ..it wouldnt me to play games
[03:25] <snakedoc> ok, i got the compat wireless on the other machine, the ubuntu one
[03:25] <snakedoc> and i got it to do something
[03:25] <Kkoala> and my other question is how do i mount my usb stick
[03:26] <snakedoc> i think it may be working
[03:26] <snakedoc> i just was wondering if u were here in case not
[03:26] <tritium> snakedoc: ok, that sounds encouraging
[03:26] <Draken> is there a easy way to share my printer thats runnin ubuntu on a network so my pc running windows can print to it?
[03:26] <_2> Kkoala sudo mount /dev/sdb? /mnt
[03:26] <papna> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases claims that Jaunty will have Pidgin 2.6, which is bogus (that may or may not exist by April, if nothing else). Is there someone who knows what software Jaunty will include who can correct the list in the article?
[03:26] <taz> fearful: it said java need download
[03:26] <Kkoala> thanks
[03:26] <_2> !cups | Draken
[03:26] <Draken> thanks
[03:27] <snakedoc> tritium, it says "now run:         make unload          and then load the wireless module you need. if unsure reboot."
[03:27] <_2> welcome, welcome, welcome.
[03:27] <fearful> taz in firefox go to Edit > Preferences > Content and check if java is enabled please
[03:27] <chris8> hey room -- help installing ubuntu 8.X off CD... stuck on (initramfs) command prompt :S
[03:27] <tritium> snakedoc: is there a question following that?
[03:27] <[NB]> chris8: i had the same problem.. happens on every compaq laptop <_<
[03:27] <booksbuggy> hmmm i wonder if Consulta's computer is god
[03:28] <blizzle> chris4585, What happens if you type: exit
[03:28] <booksbuggy> good
[03:28] <snakedoc> yeah tritium what do i do
[03:28] <taz> fearful: ok i will check it
[03:28] <snakedoc> do i make it run something or do i reboot?
[03:28] <chris8> {NB} so what i do?!? pray?
[03:28] <tritium> snakedoc: follow the instructions of Method 2.  I don't recall them, step-for-step.
[03:28] <blizzle> chris4585, What happens if you type: exit ?
[03:28] <chris8> it came preloaded with Vista <barf>
[03:28] <[NB]> chris8: nope.. i never solved the problem >_<
[03:29] <snakedoc> tritium, i was doing 1
[03:29] <blizzle> chris4585, Sometimes exit can restart te boot process.
[03:29] <_2> so, i have this laptop, (toshiba satalite a135) and i plug this monitor in,(older dell crt 17") and xorg goes to smacken blitzr.    does anyone know how to configure xorg to use the external monitor ?
[03:29] <tritium> snakedoc: no, I advised you to follow method 2
[03:29] <snakedoc> crap
[03:29] <snakedoc> missed that part
[03:29] <_2> tritium  ^  ?
[03:30] <TheMusicGuy> I have a theoretical question.
[03:30] <tritium> snakedoc: it's up to you, ultimately.
[03:30] <timahvo1_> Kkoala: hey I got disconnected. did you get sorted ?
[03:30] <sophia> anyone knows abt SDL firefox browser?
[03:30] <tritium> _2: yes?
[03:30] <snakedoc> lemme reboot it see if it fixed
[03:30] <_2> so, i have this laptop, (toshiba satalite a135) and i plug this monitor in,(older dell crt 17") and xorg goes to smacken blitzr.    does anyone know how to configure xorg to use the external monitor ?
[03:30] <Kkoala> no
[03:30] <Kkoala> waiting for yours
[03:30] <Consulta> it work
[03:30] <timahvo1_> Kkoala: hey I got disconnected. did you get sorted ?
[03:30] <booksbuggy> worked?
[03:30] <xnevermore> What sort of themes are those listed in System->Preferences->Appearance (i.e. what do I look for on gnome-look.org to install a new one)?
[03:30] <fearful> consulta the shutdown?
[03:30] <TheMusicGuy> would it be possible to make a panel that hides itself whenever it has a window list with less than 2 windows in it?
[03:30] <taz> fearful: yes it already mark in the box
[03:30] <snakedoc> then worst case scenario, i start from scratch and do method 2
[03:31] <tritium> snakedoc: if you choose to use method 2 instead, please "sudo make unload && sud make uninstall"
[03:31] <aex> when i sudo one time and exit, it takes too long to ask again for password next time i run sudo, why is that
[03:31] <sigma92> _2: so i installed lm-sensors and did sensors detect and it added the modules, i rebooted, acpi -V still reports 40 celsius
[03:31] <sigma92> and powertop still doesn't work
[03:31] <fearful> taz can you check in another site with java if it is working
[03:31] <taz> fearful: ok
[03:31] <blizzle> xnevermore, You want gtk themes in all probability.
[03:31] <_2> sigma92 woops.
[03:31] <sophia> #firefox
[03:31] <tritium> snakedoc: if you unload and uninstall, you can safely proceed to method 2
[03:32] <sigma92> _2: no i'm sure you were on the right track, it loaded a coretemp module that wasn't before
[03:32] <_2> sigma92 that's the full extent of my knowledge on that point.
[03:32] <snakedoc> its finishing the reboot right now. im guna see if it worked
[03:32] <timahvo1_> Kkoala: were you helped ?
[03:32] <Kkoala> no
[03:32] <_2> sigma92 sorry it didn't do for you what it did for me.
[03:32] <Chris8> Someone help me install Ubuntu on my new shitty laptop?
[03:33] <[NB]> chris8: use the intrepid release
[03:33] <sigma92> that's okay
[03:33] <timahvo1_> Kk my link is bad so I can't down it but this is what to do...
[03:33] <jbmigel> Chris8 w00t put the disk in and reboot!
[03:33] <sigma92> does anyone know how to make java fonts (like in openoffice) match the fonts of my gtk theme?
[03:33] <Chris8> it stalls halfway through boot up
[03:33] <tritium> Chris8: language, please
[03:33] <snakedoc> tritium,
[03:33] <Chris8> smooch sorry
[03:33] <[NB]> its beta but it has better compatibility than the stable ones
[03:33] <snakedoc> dare i say
[03:33] <snakedoc> I LOVE YOU
[03:33] <FloodBot1> snakedoc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:33] <Kkoala> did that program disconnect you
[03:33] <tritium> snakedoc: it worked?
[03:33] <snakedoc> it did it did
[03:33] <Chris8> intrepid you say... yeah there a lot new bunch versions eh?
[03:33] <tritium> snakedoc: I'm glad :)
[03:34] <Chris8> NB what specialize intrepid?
[03:34] <snakedoc> thank you very much sir. i owe you.
[03:34] <timahvo1_> Kkoala:after unziping do chmod a+x aiotrade.bin
[03:34] <tritium> snakedoc: no problem at all
[03:34] <snakedoc> while i have you, real quick
[03:34] <galvanize> wondering if someone could give me a hand with writing a script?
[03:34] <jbmigel> Chris8 you think maybe it's X crashing or whats going on eh?
[03:34] <blizzle> Chris8, If your laptop is "shitty" you might want to consider installing Xubuntu 8.10 desktop version.
[03:34] <timahvo1_> Kkoala: then type ./aiotrade.bin
[03:34] <snakedoc> what version of skype do i use with ubuntu, i was using a fedora distro b4 so idk what to use
[03:34] <TheMusicGuy> does anybody else have a randomly-crashing X server in Intrepid?
[03:34] <[NB]> intrepid = ubuntu 8.10 2.6.27-7 or something like that
[03:34] <Kkoala> ?
[03:34] <Chris8> i only disparage laptop cuz it came with Vista on it
[03:35] <blizzle> snakedoc, Add the official Skype repository via Synaptic. Job done.
[03:35] <Kkoala> i type that in the terminal?
[03:35] <Chris8> not sure why the 8.X isn't taking
[03:35] <tritium> !skype | snakedoc
[03:35] <Chris8> can install Intrepid online?
[03:35] <tritium> snakedoc: see above
[03:35] <timahvo1_> Kkoala: yes
[03:35] <blizzle> Chris8, Did you try typing exit at the initramfs prompt?
[03:35] <Chris8> na
[03:35] <Chris8> :P
[03:35] <jbmigel> Chris8 you cant tell anything about whats going on when it stalls?
[03:36] <blizzle> Chris8, Try it, sometimes it can kickstart the boot.
[03:36] <skeletal> guys, i need see movie RMVW but my real player dosn't work. Is there some other software?
[03:36] <Chris8> thanks will try
[03:36] <Chris8> it appears to run three commands
[03:36] <Chris8> and then leaves me at a command prompt (initramfs)
[03:37] <Chris8> what is OEM install?
[03:37] <blizzle> Chris8, That's for system builders.
[03:37] <Chris8> Overwrite existing memory? :P
[03:37] <_2> origenal equiptment manufacturor
[03:37] <tritium> snakedoc: did you see the above?
[03:38] <snakedoc> ya
[03:38] <blizzle> Chris8, Sure, overwrite existing memory, if it's asking you that.
[03:38] <Chris8> hey while i'm here... anyone know best linux music suite, engineer music etc?
[03:38] <[NB]> o-O
[03:38] <_2>      one more time,,,  i have this laptop, (toshiba satalite a135) and i plug this monitor in,(older dell crt 17") and xorg goes to smacken blitzr.    does anyone know how to configure xorg to use the external monitor ?
[03:38] <_2> ?
[03:39] <timahvo1_> Kkoala: got it?
[03:39] <skeletal> guys?
[03:39] <snakedoc> tritium, it keeps giving me dependancy is not satisfiable:libqt4-core
[03:39] <skeletal> how can I download a mplayer?
[03:39] <jbmigel> _2 ive done that kind of thing before a long time ago... maybe i can help
[03:39] <Commie_Cary> why do I have no sound in savage 2
[03:39] <Chris8> hmmm exit no help...
[03:39] <Kkoala> stefan@stefan-laptop:~/aiotrade$ chmod a+x aiotrade.bin
[03:39] <Kkoala> chmod: cannot access `aiotrade.bin': No such file or directory
[03:39] <Chris8> Busybox ver 1.1X of something
[03:39] <jbmigel> _2 do you know what version of ubuntu you're using?
[03:39] <_2> jbmigel glad for any thoughts on the matter.
[03:40] <Kkoala> there is a bin dir
[03:40] <blizzle> _2: http://navetz.com/v/132/Simple-dual-monitor-setup-with-XrandR-in-Ubuntu-Linux & http://arulanandan.blogspot.com/2008/03/configuring-dual-monitor-on-ubuntu-710.html
[03:40] <tritium> snakedoc: you downloaded the .deb?
[03:40] <_2> jbmigel don't run me out of the channel for it.    it's debian lenny
[03:40] <Chris8> maybe hafta install GNU?
[03:40] <Dexi> How do i change from OSS to ALSA?
[03:40] <snakedoc> yes i did
[03:40] <blizzle> _2: Google is your friend. I suspect you haven't looked. :)
[03:40] <tritium> Dexi: ubuntu uses alsa by default
[03:40] <sandeep> anyone using any CBT stuff for learning?
[03:40] <Dexi> tritium: apparently not
[03:40] <Kkoala> here is whats in it
[03:40] <Kkoala> stefan@stefan-laptop:~/aiotrade$ dir bin
[03:40] <Kkoala> aiotrade  aiotrade.exe	aiotrade_w.exe
[03:41] <baz> is it possible to ssh into a specific folder?
[03:41] <tritium> Dexi: it does.  cat /proc/asound/version
[03:41] <PorkSoda> Any one notice firefox/flash crashing apps that use sound? amarok/totem etc?
[03:41] <Sjimmie> baz: if you ssh into a server it will take you into the home directory of the user that you used to logon with
[03:41] <tritium> snakedoc: please use my nick so I see your responses
[03:41] <snakedoc> tritium, there are 2 .deb and i tried both with the same issues
[03:41] <jbmigel> _2 hmm ok so after you plug in the monitor does it mess up right away or do you have to hit FunC-F2 or whatever to turn it on first
[03:42] <PorkSoda> I have the problem on 2 boxes, anr tried reinstalling flash, but I'm wondering if any one has a fix for it.
[03:42] <Dexi> tritium: system>prefernces>sound: Playback "MY Card (OSS)" Music and Movies "My Card (OSS)"
[03:42] <tritium> snakedoc: if you use the graphical file manager (called nautilus), double-click the .deb, and it should open it in gdebi, which will automatically resolve the dependencies
[03:42] <_2> jbmigel it's hosed at once
[03:42] <JPSman> where can I find a chat about more advanced matters, like capturing the data from the USB drawing pad I have that plugs into my virtualbox windows to create a driver for linux?
[03:43] <_2> jbmigel it's really odd,  it worked the very first time, then after that kablamb
[03:43] <blizzle> JPSman, If it's a wacom pad, linux drivers are already available and should be available.
[03:43] <[NB]> JPSman: ubuntu forums? :D
[03:44] <[NB]> anyone know where i could find a preconfigured blackbox
[03:44] <snakedoc> tritium, i opened where the file is saved. now what?
[03:44] <sigma92> does anyone know how to make java fonts (like in openoffice) match the fonts of my gtk theme?
[03:44] <tritium> !sound | Dexi, have you followed this?
[03:44] <jbmigel> _2 ya lots of crazy things can go wrong with monitors... have you put any special settings in your xorg.conf for it yet?
[03:44] <tritium> snakedoc: Places -> Home Folder, navigate to the .deb, and double-click it
[03:44] <x0t> hola alguien ke me pueda ayudar
[03:44] <x0t> _
[03:45] <snakedoc> tritium, still comes up with the dependacy issues
[03:45] <Dexi> tritium: Alsa Mixer is selected there
[03:45] <Kkoala> hi can anyone help with an install
[03:45] <_2> jbmigel no. i even tried removing xorg.conf   no help    dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   no help.
[03:45] <redline5653> is anyone here?
[03:46] <baz> Sjimmie, ah i see, and there is no option to override that in any way to catapult me right into a folder i always go to immedietly?
[03:46] <genii-around> Quite a few anyones
[03:46] <amarcy2> im having issues with FN keys on a sony laptop...can somebody PM me pleaseeee
[03:46] <amarcy2> please please :(
[03:46] <timahvo1> Kkoala: sorry but my connection is really bad. maybe someone else can help
[03:46] <Kkoala> alright
[03:46] <tritium> snakedoc: just the one dependency?  Was it opened in gdebi?
[03:46] <Kkoala> thanks for your time
[03:46] <timahvo1> Kkoala: good luck
[03:46] <Comma_Doo> oy
[03:47] <redline5653> can somone help me i'm trying to install ubuntu but my cd drive wont read any cd's
[03:47] <snakedoc> it was opened in something that said package installer tritium
[03:47] <amarcy2> u try booting usb?
[03:47] <Rafael_> i have software raid on ubuntu server, i have test it multiple ways and it works beatifull. something very strange i have notice: very often the raid goes into degrade mode and one of the drive disapers, i thoight was a physical problem wth the drive, i have test all the 3 drives with Western Digital softare and drive are fine, is this a now issue with software raid
[03:47] <Comma_Doo> oy
[03:47] <Comma_Doo> oy
[03:47] <Comma_Doo> oy
[03:47] <_2> blizzle i "rechecked" the docs you posted.  no help.
[03:47] <amarcy2> make ur usb bootable
[03:47] <FloodBot1> Comma_Doo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:47] <tritium> snakedoc: you can manually install it, then (sudo apt-get install libqt4-core)
[03:48] <redline5653> i dont have a usb :( im trying to find out if i can somehow mount the image and install whiile in windows
[03:48] <amarcy2> somebody PM me i need help with keyboard mapping
[03:48] <floatboat> can someone help me use ntop
[03:48] <amarcy2> either need cd rom or usb buddy
[03:48] <snakedoc> tritium, it says it cant find the package
[03:48] <amarcy2> cant do it any other way
[03:48] <jbmigel> _2 i think lenny uses xrandr now to autoset all those kinds of video settings... so you dont actually have to do anything in xorg
[03:48] <redline5653> :(
[03:49] <_2> jbmigel i'll have to do something,  cause it isn't working the way it is.
[03:49] <tritium> snakedoc: sounds like you don't have an updated package list.  Can you please "sudo apt-get update", and then try to install the .deb again?
[03:49] <jbmigel> _2 I found a reasonable looking how-to for xrandr on debian lenny, im pretty sure if you work your way through this you will figure it out http://www.jejik.com/articles/2008/10/setting_up_dual_monitors_system-wide_with_xrandr_on_debian_lenny/
[03:49] <amarcy2> this really sucks you in
[03:49] <amarcy2> peace out
[03:49] <snakedoc> on it tritium
[03:49] <baz> the command *find* seems to cycle thru every directory without filtering for my string, why is that? My command is: find / ssh
[03:49] <_2> jbmigel and yes lenny is contemporary with intrepid
[03:50] <_2> jbmigel i'm looking.
[03:51] <_2> baz because the syntax is wrong
[03:51] <_2> baz   find / -iname ssh
[03:51] <redline5653> what about if i make a boot floppy and have the files/cd somewhere on my hdd?
[03:51] <Rafael_> any help with raid?
[03:53] <baz> _2, that returns "Usage: find [PATH...] [EXPRESSION]" hinting that that syntax is no good either... or is that what happens if nothing is found?
[03:53] <bullgard4> [Symmetrical Multiprocessing, SMP]: Is there a tool that shows if an application program uses both processors on a particular two-processor SMP machine?
[03:54] <_2> baz there was nothing wrong with the syntax i posted.   do you have an ssh/ dir in the pwd ?
[03:54] <yeoj___> if i need to add a tweak to my touchpad device, and i dont have a "InputDevice" section in my xorg.conf, how does it know what input device i want to modify?  I'm trying to disable "Tap to click" on my macbook pro
[03:54] <_2> baz post the full command you used in here.
[03:54] <yeoj___> i hvaen't used linux since i use to write my own xorg.conf's
[03:55] <tritium> snakedoc: I'm about to head to bed.  Any progress?
[03:55] <baz> _2, i just used what u gave me, was I supposed to know more :) >> find / -iname ssh
[03:55] <snakedoc> it worked tritium but now its messed up
[03:55] <_2> baz and that errored out ?
[03:56] <snakedoc> the audio feedbad wont work
[03:56] <Kkoala> if someone has the time i would like to install some software and need help with this
[03:56] <ranok> oh boy, my new computer is going to fly with Xubuntu on it
[03:56] <redline5653> would i be able to make a boot floppy to install from files on hdd?
[03:56] <soreau> yeoj___: X will still respect xorg.conf settings even though it auto detects well enough to not require one now
[03:56] <JPSman> blizzle, [NB] - its a AIPTEK board.  I'll look, thanx
[03:56] <baz> _2, yeah i just ran it again after doing cd /... to be exact the response is: "BusyBox v1.1.0 (2008.11.10-03:26+0000) multi-call binary" and then on the following line "Usage: find [PATH...] [EXPRESSION]"
[03:57] <yeoj___> soreau, but how does it know i'm referring to my touchpad and not my... other input device/etc?  I just need to put Option "MaxTapTime" "0"
[03:57] <soreau> Kkoala: You will have to ask a more specific question than that
[03:57] <chu_> Does anyone have experience with laptop's "special" keys? Like, this Fn key combinations used for asus laptops etc?
[03:57] <soreau> yeoj___: Just do it how you would usually do it?
[03:57] <_2> baz  oh busybox.    i have no idea what kind of psyudo find command they built into your busybox shell.
[03:57] <snakedoc> tritium,  i keep getting problem with audio playback
[03:57] <snakedoc> ideas?
[03:57] <baz> _2, oh actually i just realized that this is on my NAS which is most likely not running ubuntu - but isn't *find* a basic command
[03:57] <mib_ytomitbs> Hey, can anyone assist me with getting my ATI card to work?
[03:58] <mib_ytomitbs> I am rather desperate.
[03:58] <Kkoala> its a program
[03:58] <baz> _2, how can i know what distro is on that machine
[03:58] <Myrth> hi, what is the application that monitors which appication connects to what in real time?
[03:58] <mib_ytomitbs> Please?
[03:58] <soreau> yeoj___: You may have to create the section if it isn't already present in the conf file
[03:58] <Kkoala> i unzipped it and don't know what to do next as I am new at ubuntu
[03:58] <_2> baz  find is a basic gnu command,  but you don't have find  you have a symlink named find pointing to busybox
[03:58] <soreau> Kkoala: Which program?
[03:58] <mib_ytomitbs> Anyone?
[03:59] <Kkoala> aiotrade
[03:59] <mib_ytomitbs> : \
[03:59] <chu_> what's your problem mib_?
[03:59] <mib_ytomitbs> Well.
[03:59] <soreau> mib_ytomitbs: Sure. Go to #compiz-fusion and ask
[03:59] <mib_ytomitbs> I have an ATI x1650
[03:59] <mib_ytomitbs> Its not a compiz issue
[03:59] <mib_ytomitbs> I'm not trying to run compiz
[03:59] <FloodBot1> mib_ytomitbs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:59] <soreau> mib_ytomitbs: Which version of ubuntu?
[03:59] <mib_ytomitbs> 8.04, but I'm going to update to 8.10
[04:00] <_2> baz  from that busybox shell,   i have no clue.   there are too many variables for that to have an answer.   reminds me of the joke "Q. what is the differance between a duck?   A. one leg is both the same!"
[04:00] <mib_ytomitbs> My issue is, I have dual monitors.
[04:00] <tritium> snakedoc: no, sorry
[04:00] <snakedoc> got it tritium
[04:00] <Sjimmie> baz: sure there is, adjust your homedirectory by either modifying your /etc/passwd directly or using usermod
[04:00] <snakedoc> just had the wrong input/output
[04:00] <mib_ytomitbs> And, everything is so screwed up.
[04:00] <mib_ytomitbs> The max resolution for both screens is 640x400
[04:00] <tritium> snakedoc: great.  Good night.
[04:00] <Kkoala> this is whats in the aiotrade dir                stefan@stefan-laptop:~$ dir
[04:00] <Kkoala> aiotrade	 Desktop    Examples		    Music     Public	 Videos
[04:00] <Kkoala> description-pak  Documents  gtk-gnutella-downloads  Pictures  Templates
[04:00] <snakedoc> g
[04:01] <snakedoc> g'night tritium thank u
[04:01] <mib_ytomitbs> Which is absurd.. my drivers are obviously fubar. How can I just clear all my drivers and xorg settings and start over?
[04:01] <Kkoala> stefan@stefan-laptop:~$ dir aiotrade
[04:01] <Kkoala> aiotrade  bin  DISTRIBUTION.txt  etc  harness  LICENSE.txt  platform7
[04:01] <soreau> Kkoala: That's what's in your home directory, not the aiotrade one
[04:01] <mib_ytomitbs> ?
[04:01] <Kkoala> now I dont know what to do next
[04:01] <soreau> mib_ytomitbs: Pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:02] <soreau> Kkoala: From where did you get the source?
[04:02] <_2> jbmigel that page as per all others that i have gotten to even talk to me about this,  assumes that xorg "just works" and i'm only wanting to expand my screen to fill both monitors.  or possably switch between them.   i'm not to that stage of the game.  xorg does not "just work"
[04:02] <Kkoala> its from sourcforge
[04:02] <Droopsta915> Does anyone in here use Cisco Packet Tracer?
[04:02] <Droopsta915> On Ubuntu
[04:03] <edju> /etc/passwd has the shell for nobody set as /bin/sh.  Should that be /bin/false?
[04:03] <soreau> Kkoala: If you want help you need to use the nick of the person your talking to and answer questions more pointedly
[04:04] <sandeep> what is a pcket tracer?
[04:04] <fwaokda> is there a detailed battery meter i can use with ubuntu? I bought a battery online and am wanting to see if its actually what they said it was...
[04:04] <jbmigel> _2 what if you just use a tty console on your laptop to run xrand commands think that will get you anywhere
[04:04] <_2> jbmigel i got one guy in #debian to talk to me about it,  seemed at first like a nice enough chap.   gave me one command to run "an xrandr command of course" which turned off both the lcd and the crt.  when i told him what it did, he got mad at me. and stopped talking to me.
[04:04] <_2> jbmigel sure.   that's where i have been working, because xorg is hosed.
[04:04] <jbmigel> _2 if you mess up with xrand commands you can restart the computer and they go away
[04:05] <constantine_> I'm on the gnome look webite trying to find themes but they are all different, which ones are the MAIN ubuntu themes that you can change?
[04:05] <Kkoala> soreau: there is no install or instruction
[04:05] <chu_>  fwaokda hat's the problem?
[04:05] <_2> or restart x
[04:05] <mib_ytomitbs> Here's that pastbin mates: http://pastebin.com/m3b79001f
[04:05] <mib_ytomitbs> It's rather long, I fear.
[04:05] <soreau> Kkoala: Can you provide the link from where you downloaded this package?
[04:05] <Kkoala> soreau:
[04:05] <Kkoala> yes
[04:06] <jbmigel> _2 ya maybe... so ok i dont get it you want to fix xorg first then right and worry about external monitor later
[04:06] <Lucifer_Cat> ok so someone suggested this before, and im following up on it... i installed *buntu, and then i installed packages like sshd and tightvnc etc. now what should i do so i dont have to install them again the next time i do a clean install?
[04:06] <EtFb> fwaokda: In a konsole, you can get all the battery info you need: cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/*
[04:06] <soreau> mib_ytomitbs: You need to install the driver in Sys>Admin>Hardware Drivers
[04:06] <chu_> constantine_ if you use synaptic I believe they have all the officially *supported* themes available
[04:06] <fwaokda> EtFb, thanks!
[04:06] <fwaokda> ill try that
[04:06] <_2> jbmigel oddly enough consoles display correctly in both the lcd and the crt    and xorg works if the external is not plugged in.
[04:06] <mib_ytomitbs> soreau, if I do that, I get a solid white screen upon reboot.
[04:06] <simzee> Hello! I use Ubuntu Eee (latest version), and I try to connect with my Huawei E169 usb modem, which should work out of the box, but it just gets ignored somehow. I use an Asus Eee 900 (as far as i remember) Could anyone tell me what to do now? ._.
[04:06] <Kkoala> soreau, http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=152032&use_mirror=superb-east&filename=aiotrade-bin-1.0.3a.zip&92392371
[04:06] <EtFb> fwaokda: The key information is the total manufactured capacity and the last charge.  You can expect a battery to lose its ability to fully charge over time.
[04:07] <soreau> mib_ytomitbs: That means it's installing it wrong, most likely because you used envy or tried to install a driver manually
[04:07] <_2> jbmigel i would like to setup xorg to use only the crt  if i could
[04:07] <snakedoc> does anyone know how to work evolution mail with gmail account?
[04:07] <MaT-dg> the livecd asks me for username and password...
[04:07] <mib_ytomitbs> soreau, how can I wipe all driver and xorg settings, and then retry this?
[04:07] <jbmigel> _2 it really sounds to me like you just need to give the right xrandr command perhaps just before you plug in the external
[04:07] <fwaokda> EtFb, says that directory doesn't exist
[04:08] <EtFb> fwaokda: Do you have /proc/acpi?  Look in there.  I may have misremembered the path from there.
[04:08] <jbmigel> _2 you saw the second example command in the link i sent? it says it will give you external monitor only
[04:08] <snakedoc> does anyone know how to work evolution mail with gmail account?
[04:08] <_2> jbmigel yep
[04:08] <mib_ytomitbs> I mean, I am to the point where I am considering doing a fresh install.. This is absurd.
[04:08] <soreau> Kkoala: The program you have downloaded is for windows, not linux. If there is no linux version of the program already you can try running it with wine (ask in #wine)
[04:08] <fwaokda> EtFb, it was BAT1 :)
[04:08] <fwaokda> not BAT0
[04:08] <fwaokda> but..
[04:08] <rww> snakedoc: The settings you need are at http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78799&topic=12920 (for IMAP) or http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13287&topic=12917 (for POP).
[04:08] <jbmigel> _2 and it didnt help at all?
[04:08] <EtFb> fwaokda: Bloody one-based counting... it's always a bad idea...
[04:08] <_2> jbmigel and tested it.    i have external monitor,  just can see crap on it
[04:08] <snakedoc> rww, what are the 2 designations?
[04:09] <rww> MaT-dg: Try putting in "ubuntu" for the username and leave the password blank
[04:09] <soreau> mib_ytomitbs: Reinstall ubuntu. Or dist-upgrade might work
[04:09] <fwaokda> EtFb, it's just saying its a dir with no information other than that :(
[04:09] <jbmigel> _2 can you be more specific? is it blurry or blank or bright or what
[04:09] <MaT-dg> rww: 'incorrect' xD
[04:09] <floatboat> can someone here help me use ntop
[04:09] <_2> jbmigel like i said that command seems to assume that xorg just works, and all i want to do is dirrect it to a screen.
[04:09] <rww> snakedoc: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=75725
[04:09] <EtFb> fwaokda: cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/*
[04:09] <mib_ytomitbs> soreau, I'm upgrading to 8.10 now. once I reboot will it clear all my xorg and driver configs?
[04:10] <EtFb> That will give you the contents of every file inside the directory
[04:10] <soreau> mib_ytomitbs: You're upgrading at this very moment?
[04:10] <chu_> I guess so
[04:10] <fwaokda> EtFb, SWEET :) now what did you say was the only important info?
[04:10] <_2> jbmigel sure i'll try to describe it.    light blue mostly  devided into three sections left middle and right,  with an extreemly large cursor fo two vertical white bars in the middle division.
[04:11] <snowy> hi. I just installed matlab on my ubuntu (love this thing), but I might have done something stupid by using sudo during the install and putting it in /usr/local Now if I don't run it with sudo it gives me all these problems. I tried changing ownership for /usr/lib/matlab but no dice. any easy way of fixing this without reinstalling?
[04:11] <jbmigel> _2 wow thats awesome man!
[04:11] <Kkoala> soreau: http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=152032&use_mirror=superb-east&filename=aiotrade-bin-1.0.3a.zip&92392371
[04:11] <_2> jbmigel the dividing marks are solid black
[04:11] <soreau> snowy: Make sure the related directories in ~/. are owned by your user
[04:12] <Auctioneldlama> sorea, this is the guy asking about ATI issues. What was the last thing you said to me like 30 seconds ago?
[04:12] <_2> jbmigel two of them about half an inch wide top to bottom.
[04:12] <jbmigel> _2 do you think maybe you are trying to use a resolution the screen doesnt support? try 640x480 in the xrandr command
[04:12] <EtFb> fwaokda: "design capacity" tells you what the maximum charge capacity was when the battery was manufactured.  It's measured in mAh (milliamp hours).  "last full capacity" says how fully it was charged the last time you charged it.  That will start out close to the d.c. but get lower over time; there's nothing you can do about that, it's normal.
[04:12] <soreau> Kkoala: The program you have downloaded is for windows, not linux. If there is no linux version of the program already you can try running it with wine (ask in #wine)
[04:12] <rww> Auctioneldlama: [20:10:24]	<soreau>	mib_ytomitbs: You're upgrading at this very moment?
[04:12] <EtFb> fwaokda: "remaining capacity" is how much charge the battery has right now.
[04:13] <_2> jbmigel that crt is a little old but does everyting from 320x200 to 1600x1280
[04:13] <Auctioneldlama> Soreau, Oh yes I am. I figured upgrade now, so if I did get it working on 8.04, and upgraded it later, it could mess it up.
[04:13] <Peddyt> How would I, from command line, install a list of packages formatted like this?: http://pastebin.com/m641f1ac7
[04:13] <EtFb> fwaokda: For example, my brand-new Toshiba A300 has a design capacity of 4000mAh, but because the battery is a few weeks old, it can't charge more than 3863mAh.  In a year's time, the way I use my laptops, that will probably be down to 2000 or so.
[04:14] <fwaokda> EtFb, :( the one i bought was supposed to be DC @ 5200mAh, yet it says its 4400mAh dang ebay
[04:14] <snowy> soreau: you are right, my .matlab is owned by root. I tried sudo chown -R myusername .matlab/ but no luck
[04:14] <jbmigel> _2 could you try a different resolution and see if the screen changes or stays the same?
[04:14] <Jaan|Perfect> hi all
[04:14] <_2> Peddyt LIST="your package list here" ;sudo apt-get install $LIST
[04:14] <Jaan|Perfect> 	good morning
[04:14] <Jaan|Perfect> 	i would like to test my laptop [ almost 3 years old ]
[04:14] <EtFb> fwaokda: What does it say for the model number?
[04:14] <Jaan|Perfect> 	i have installed ubuntu 8.10 inteprid [ 600+ mb iso file] in vmware workstation
[04:14] <Jaan|Perfect> 	how do i test my laptop and send a report to the laptop wiki ?
[04:14] <FloodBot1> Jaan|Perfect: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:14] <fwaokda> EtFb, model number is blank
[04:15] <soreau> Auctioneldlama: Alright. In that case, don't try to install the proprietary driver (in Sys>Prefs>HW Drivers) since Intrepid has the open radeon driver version that supports your card. Chances are you will need to delete xorg.conf altogether after the upgrade is finished (since it will load the correct driver by default)
[04:15] <fwaokda> EtFb, i guess someone just "made" it
[04:15] <EtFb> Jaan|Perfect: You can't.  If you're running in VMware, you can't get a clear idea of how it's working in your laptop, because it isn't.
[04:15] <EtFb> fwaokda: Odd!
[04:15] <soreau> snowy: Well that was my one and only guess, sorry
[04:15] <EtFb> fwaokda: Pastebin the output for me; I'm curious.
[04:15] <Kkoala> oh geeze
[04:15] <chu_> Does anyone have experience with laptop's "special" keys? Like, this Fn key combinations used for asus laptops etc?
[04:15] <Kkoala> soreau: thanks
[04:15] <fwaokda> already on it 1 second ;)
[04:15] <snowy> soreau: I meant, I don't know how to change the ownership. But i used nautilus
[04:15] <Auctioneldlama> soreau, should I erase xorg.conf before it finishes updating?
[04:16] <soreau> Auctioneldlama: No, after
[04:16] <Jaan|Perfect> ok, i need to install on my laptop
[04:16] <EtFb> chu_: My experience is that you can't trust them to work.  Sometimes even a new kernel upgrade changes them.
[04:16] <EtFb> Jaan|Perfect: Yes.
[04:16] <linux_guy> FREE ebook download and reference for Ubuntu.  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/free-download-ubuntu-pocket-guide-and-reference.html
[04:16] <bartek> Hi there. I want to be able to access my machine via ssh from outside my network (behind a router). I forwarded port 1985 (my ssh port) to the ubuntu boxes ip address on the network but when I do ssh <my external ip> -p1985 it just sits there and eventually closes connection. I can do ssh localhost -p1985 quite fine though. Any tips?
[04:16] <linux_guy> that should be a requirement for joining here
[04:16] <fwaokda> EtFb, http://rafb.net/p/JD4O5Z89.html
[04:16] <Jaan|Perfect> but how do i install an iso file on my laptop ?
[04:16] <_2> jbmigel ok it changes size.  but the picture is exactly the same.
[04:16] <Auctioneldlama> soreau, Oh alright. And after wards, I don't have to install anything, just delete xorg.conf, and reboot and I'm ready to go? Will that also support 3d acceleration so I can play 3d games and use compiz with my dual screen setup?
[04:16] <chu_> Yeah, I was thinking that too (As 8.10 doesn't detected my battery), what are the chances of 9.10 running *stable* now?
[04:16] <soreau> snowy: That is correct. As user from a terminal use: sudo chown -R $LOGNAME ~/.matlab
[04:16] <Peddyt> _2, the package list is in a text file.
[04:17] <chu_> 9.04 rather
[04:17] <Cpudan80> bartek: shh ip -p 1985
[04:17] <Droopsta915> What should I install when installing wine? wine, wine-dev, winefish?
[04:17] <Cpudan80> bartek: Are you sure you got the space between the p and the port # ?
[04:17] <Auctioneldlama> droopsta915: Wine
[04:17] <Peddyt> _2, the package list is in a text file, which is formatted like the pastebin paste that I mentioned above. I can't just copy and paste it into apt-get, because it's oddly formatted.
[04:17] <snowy> soreau: Thanks, it worked :)
[04:17] <Auctioneldlama> soreau?
[04:17] <Droopsta915> thanks
[04:17] <EtFb> fwaokda: Weird.  Ah well, what did it cost you?
[04:18] <soreau> Auctioneldlama: It does support 3D acceleration and you can play games but the proprietary drivers work better for graphically intense games. The open driver is better for compiz and video playback
[04:18] <fwaokda> EtFb, DC: 48.8wh  ??
[04:18] <fwaokda> EtFb, thats what the gnome one says
[04:18] <jbmigel> _2 wow it really seems like its close to working... how about if you use the third xrandr command... and try to just set your laptops monitor active
[04:18] <fwaokda> EtFb, does 48.8wh = 4400mAh ?
[04:18] <bartek> Cpudan80: uh, I dont think the space matters because I've never used a space after a single dash (-) arg. But I tried it with a space and it doesn't work either
[04:18] <_2> Peddyt so use grep, cut, to format it
[04:18] <linux_guy> is there a driver that will allow compiz and video files to play nicely?
[04:18] <Auctioneldlama> soreau: Oh I see. So all I have to do is just let the distro upgrade, reboot, then delete xorg.conf, reboot again, and everything should work just dandy?
[04:18] <EtFb> fwaokda: I don't know enough about electronics to even begin to guess.
[04:19] <Cpudan80> bartek: no firewalls on the serveR?
[04:19] <Cpudan80> I cant type today apparently
[04:19] <Peddyt> _2, how would I do that?
[04:19] <prince_jammys> Peddyt: it's in the format readably by dpkg --set-selections
[04:19] <prince_jammys> *readable
[04:19] <soreau> Auctioneldlama: Finish upgrade, rename xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak then reboot and it should work (hopefully)
[04:20] <jtaji> fwaokda: divide the 48.8Wh by the battery voltage, then multiply by 1000, and you'll have mAh
[04:20] <bartek> Cpudan80: good point, I setup iptables. I'll check them out
[04:20]  * linux_guy pulls his hair out
[04:20] <EtFb> fwaokda: In Australia at the moment, a ~4000mAh battery tends to cost around $100 AUD, which is about 50 euros.
[04:20] <bartek> totally forgot :)
[04:20] <Auctioneldlama> Soreau: Oh ok, just like triple checking here: So I let the distro finish (don't reboot yet?) delete xorg.conf (or rename it) and then reboot?
[04:20] <EtFb> fwaokda: Or twice that if you want a warranty...
[04:20] <Peddyt> prince_jammys, I understand, but how would I install it? I do 'dpkg --set-selections installed-software.txt', what do I do after that?
[04:20] <Cpudan80> easy to forget about
[04:20] <fwaokda> EtFb, haha ok ;) i paid: 52.95 USD
[04:21] <fwaokda> EtFb, plus 12.95 shipping (2nd day air)
[04:21] <redline565353> can somebody help me, i have some questions
[04:21] <Auctioneldlama> soreau, Oh and will you be on tommorow?
[04:21] <Peddyt> prince_jammys, dpkg --set-selections < installed-software.txt
[04:21] <Peddyt> *
[04:21] <soreau> ! ask | redline565353:
[04:21] <EtFb> fwaokda: You did OK then.  Expect it to last a year and a half of really solid use (ie draining and charging entirely every single day) and you'll be OK.
[04:22] <fwaokda> EtFb, alright well thanks been a big help
[04:22] <b3z3rk3r> fwaokda, never drain your battery fully
[04:22] <Auctioneldlama> soreau, So if I do what I said above, it should work, correct?
[04:22] <b3z3rk3r> Li-ion batteries like to be charged frequently
[04:22] <Droopsta915> Will wine automatically try to install my .exe file when I double click on it?
[04:22] <prince_jammys> Peddyt: sudo dpkg --set-selections < yourfile && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[04:22] <soreau> Auctioneldlama: Yes, but I will be working and may or may not be available. If it doesn't work, the very best thing you can do is ask in #compiz-fusion in about 10 hours from now
[04:22] <Hector> GASP.
[04:23] <Auctioneldlama> soreau Alright will do. Too bad I have to work and don't get back until 2:25 EST.
[04:23] <EtFb> b3z3rk3r: There's a lot of advice around about batteries.  The advice I got from experts at the local battery shop boils down to: you get 1000 cycles (ie charge+drain = 1 cycle) and then it's an ideal anchor for a small boat.
[04:23] <redline565353> i'm having problems when trying to install cd drive only loads grub and gets to the "setup" menu and then after that it says error loading bootdisk. i'm downloading another copy and going to try that but i need to think of other ways to install ubuntu
[04:23] <Auctioneldlama> soreau, I'll try then. Think you could be on around that time if you get the chance?
[04:23] <Peddyt> prince_jammys, there's no program called dselect-upgrade...
[04:23] <soreau> Auctioneldlama: Just ping me, I'll be on later most likely (around this time tomorrow)
[04:23] <genii-around> prince_jammys: First he needs to put a >  between: dpkg --set-selections     and: installed-software.txt
[04:23] <_2> xrandr really needs a man page
[04:23] <prince_jammys> Peddyt: it's not a prog. it's an apt-get action
[04:23] <Auctioneldlama> soreau, Ok thanks for the help mate. Later everyone!
[04:23] <jbmigel> _2 it totally has one already
[04:24] <Peddyt> oops
[04:24] <_2> jbmigel i can turn either one off,  or both,   but there doesn't seem to be an --on switch
[04:24] <_2> jbmigel  you call that a man page ?
[04:24] <Peddyt> Thanks prince_jammys, that did it, I accidentally left off the 'apt-get' bit. It's working now, thanks again :)
[04:25] <bartek> Cpudan80: looks like I'm not binding login to any specific ip address, atleast from what I can tell (this machine actually has no iptables, and the sshd config is as is pretty much)
[04:25] <soreau> _2: What are you trying to do now? (Can you restate your issue please?)
[04:25] <_2> jbmigel oh man 3 xrandr is not bad.
[04:25] <jbmigel> _2 hmmm ok lets assume thats all working fine and its another problem... what kinda graphics hardware you running?
[04:25] <Cpudan80> bartek: hmmm
[04:25] <prince_jammys> Peddyt: welcome
[04:25] <_2> jbmigel ati
[04:25]  * _2 blushes
[04:26] <jbmigel> _2 and which driver are you using in xorg then?
[04:26] <soreau> _2: Which driver are you using and what are you trying to accomplish exactly?
[04:26] <_2> soreau trying to get an external monitor to work on a lappy
[04:26] <spaceBARbarian> is there a way to automatically mount the vbox shared folder when using ubuntu as guest ?
[04:26] <soreau> _2: What does 'glxinfo|grep render' say?
[04:27] <inanimate_> I'm trying to gain a little more insight into GNOME development. What would be the advantage to using something like GObject in C as oppose to just Objective-C or C++?
[04:27] <soreau> inanimate_: Try a gnome development channel?
[04:27] <_2> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//radeon_drv.so
[04:27] <inanimate_> soreau: Yeah, I did. There isn't really anybody there... Thought I'd give this a try.
[04:27] <_2> soreau says   -shell: glxinfo: command not found
[04:27] <soreau> 0o
[04:28] <usser_> _2, sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[04:28] <soreau> _2: indeed, is mesa-utils installed?
[04:28] <_2> usser_ just to see what driver i'm using,  no thanks.
[04:28] <soreau> 0o
[04:28] <soreau> _2: Alright, now pastebin the output of 'xrandr -v'
[04:28] <usser_> _2, minimalist eh :)
[04:29] <usser_> _2, u can use lsmod
[04:29] <_2> Server reports RandR version 1.2
[04:29] <_2> Package `mesa-utils' is not installed.
[04:29] <soreau> _2: For 'xrandr -v'?
[04:30] <constantine> I downloaded a few of these http://tinyurl.com/6zzedm but can't get ubuntu to recognize them as theme files
[04:30] <_2> Server reports RandR version 1.2
[04:30] <soreau> You said that already
[04:30] <_2> you asked again
[04:30] <_2> i answered again
[04:30] <Mr_Goodkat> is it normal that ubuntu netbook remix lags so much?
[04:30] <soreau> No, I asked you to pastebin the output of 'xrandr -v'
[04:31] <_2> soreau i don't pastebin one line.
[04:31] <_2> soreau the return is posted twice  ^
[04:31] <soreau> _2: Package `mesa-utils' is not installed. wasn't one of the two lines?
[04:31] <_2> soreau no.
[04:31] <_2> soreau that was answering another question
[04:31] <soreau> Then I can't help you if that's all xrandr -v says
[04:32] <jbmigel> _2 if you're not sure what driver you are using this should give you a shortlist grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:32] <_2> well that's all it says
[04:32] <soreau> well then I can't help you
[04:32] <J-_> As of tonight it seems that, when I try to press and hold a key on my keyboard, the letters don't repeat anymore. What can I do to fix the problem?
[04:32] <tlchack5> Im having trouble with the installation of Ubuntu, can anybody assist me?
[04:32] <jbmigel> soreau when i xrandr -v i just get version 1.2 also... maybe you want a different command?
[04:32] <_2> jbmigel i posted the return of that up ^ there
[04:32] <soreau> jbmigel: Hmm... *checks*
[04:33] <soreau> Crap
[04:33] <_2> jbmigel the grep shows only one relivant line   (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//radeon_drv.so
[04:33] <soreau> _2: Sorry, i meant 'xrandr --verbose'
[04:33] <_2> soreau :)))
[04:33] <soreau> jbmigel: Thanks ;)
[04:34] <_2> soreau give ma a sec and i'll put it on a pastebin.
[04:35] <Droopsta915> I uninstalled wine with complete removal, but I still see the wine folder in my applications list?
[04:35] <jbmigel> _2 ok im not sure but here's what i think, i think you have installed the ati proprietary driver for your graphics hardware, and it doesnt seem to work right with xrandr. maybe if you turn off that driver youd have better luck?
[04:35] <soreau> Droopsta915: So delete it with alacarte (Sys>Prefs>Main Menu)
[04:35] <redline565353> nobody going to help me :(
[04:36] <tlchack5> nvm, i got it to work, thank you
[04:36] <soreau> redline565353: I really didn't understand.. you already installed ubuntu and grub wont load what?
[04:36] <redline565353> no the problem is i'm trying to install but cant get it to load from the cd properly
[04:36] <_2> jbmigel nope.  i haven't installed proprietary unless it's default in debian lenny
[04:37] <soreau> redline565353: Did you perform the 'Check disk for defects' program?
[04:37] <redline565353> it reads my windows cd fine but for some reason not the linux
[04:37] <redline565353> i try to but it just hangs on both copies of the disk
[04:37] <soreau> redline565353: It's either a bad disc or a bad drive I'd assume
[04:38] <redline565353> is there any other way i could install i was looking at that wubi thing and wondering if i could do it somehow with that
[04:38] <Droopsta915> I accidently hit revert! Now I cant remove?
[04:38] <genii-around> Possibly an .iso file just copied to a cd instead of burned there as a cd image
[04:39] <jbmigel> _2 maybe you could try switching the driver from radeon to vesa in your xorg.conf... vesa drivers real crap but maybe it will work for this?
[04:39] <_2> soreau http://pastebin.com/f7a581baf
[04:39] <soreau> ! wubi | redline565353
[04:39] <_2> jbmigel heh there isn't an xorg.conf at this point.
[04:40] <heatmzzr> can someone tell me what codec i need for mplayer to play mms streams?
[04:40] <soreau> _2: Try xrandr --output LVDS --auto --right-of VGA-0
[04:40] <_2> jbmigel so if i generate one with the  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command  where do i add the driver ?
[04:41] <jbmigel> _2 darn dood i give up eh? maybe you wernt meant to use that external monitor tonight...
[04:41] <soreau> jbmigel: lol
[04:41] <_2> soreau xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1680x1200 (desired size 2304x800)
[04:41] <_2> jbmigel maybe.
[04:41] <bartek> Ok, it looks like my port forwarding isn't working at all. Sigh
[04:41] <_2> jbmigel but i do thank you for trying.
[04:42] <jbmigel> _2 np pal good luck!
[04:42] <_2> jbmigel if it had been easy i whould never have asked.
[04:42] <soreau> _2: You really need glxinfo dude. I will assume (since you refuse to install it) that glxinfo -l|grep MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE will say 2048
[04:42] <pawan1234> hi
[04:42] <_2> soreau wait
[04:42] <kc8tpz> will it work to dual boot with vista if /boot is the first partition instead of windows?  my drive is too big to have it at the back with the rest of the linux stuff
[04:42] <pawan> hi
[04:42] <chrish> #sdl
[04:42] <baz> is there a command to search all irc channels on this server that have *ubuntu* in their name?
[04:42] <pawan> when is the next release coming
[04:42] <soreau> _2: And in this event you will need an xorg.conf and a Virtual line in it defining 2048
[04:43] <nOgAnOo> type /list ubuntu
[04:43] <_2> soreau i didn't refuse to install it.  i said i wouldn't install it for only the info on which driver   if i need it i'll install it.
[04:43] <nOgAnOo> g'night all
[04:43] <soreau> _2: In any event, you will have to lower the resolution of one if not both of your monitors
[04:44] <_2> soreau but one more thing.  i don't want "dual head"  i just want the external to work.  no lcd at all.
[04:44] <chrish> #firefox
[04:44] <bonny> hi
[04:44] <soreau> _2: In that case, you mean clone?
[04:44] <bonny> no
[04:44] <_2> no.  i mean put xorg on the external
[04:44] <bonny> hi
[04:44] <baz> nOgAnOo, i'm glad u understood the question, my phrasing was a little wierd... when I run that command I get a list of zero? Not even this channel is listed... any ideas why that is?
[04:44] <soreau> _2: Well I'll try to give you a xrandr command for that
[04:45] <_2> soreau clone would be ok,  if it has to be to get it to work.  but all i want is xorg on the crt
[04:45] <Mr_Goodkat> does smb use ubuntu netbook remix?
[04:45] <spasticteapot> I'm having a devil of a time with my M-Audio Audiophile USB soundcard. I've tried almost everything.
[04:45] <spasticteapot> Anyone know what I can do?
[04:45] <heatmzzr> can someone tell me what codec i need for mplayer to play mms streams?
[04:45] <_2> soreau and what was the "mesa" package ?
[04:45] <soreau> _2: Scroll back
[04:45] <cpro> hi
[04:45] <ScottG489> Is there a configureation file that System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts edits?
[04:46] <cpro> i want to increase my root partition
[04:46] <cpro> can anybody plz help
[04:46] <ScottG489> cpro: distro?
[04:46] <pawan> when is the next release coming
[04:46] <cpro> ubuntu
[04:46] <_2> too far
[04:46] <histo> !release | pawan
[04:46] <cpro> scottG489 ubuntu
[04:46] <_2> i can only scroll 200 lines
[04:46] <histo> pawan: its alpha 4 right now
[04:47] <soreau> _2: Try the same command substituting --right-of for --same-as
[04:47] <ScottG489> cpro: uuuh damn whats the name of the program....GParted. Get gparted, burn it to a disk and then boot from it
[04:47] <_2> soreau   http://pastebin.com/f307e894c
[04:47] <cpro> ScottG489 so is it possible to increase my / partion without dameging my system
[04:47] <cpro> ScottG489 so it wont disturb my system right
[04:47] <cpro> ??
[04:48] <ScottG489> cpro: Your really in luck because I just did this to increase my swap partition so I could hibernate
[04:48] <ScottG489> cpro: Nope, but they do recommend that you back up your system.
[04:48] <_2> soreau no change with the same-as command.
[04:48] <soreau> _2: Well you don't even have dri working
[04:48] <cpro> ScottG489 so takin backup will save every setting right even the eclipse
[04:48] <soreau> _2: Pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:48] <cpro> ??
[04:48] <_2> soreau crt is still three baby blue vertical panels
[04:49] <pawan> anyone from india
[04:49] <cpro> pawan yeah
[04:49] <Lucifer_Cat> technically
[04:49] <cpro> pawan yeah i m from india
[04:49] <perlsyntax> anyone use pgtk in here?
[04:49] <ScottG489> cpro: Hibernate cant write to a swap file partition (which I made) so i made a larger partition for my swap. but now i cant hibernate right :( lol
[04:49] <tritium> pawan, cpro:  location is irrelevant to the topic of ubuntu support
[04:49] <baz> anyone know an irc command to list all channels that contain *ubuntu*
[04:49] <ScottG489> cpro: eclipse?
[04:49] <ScottG489> Is there a configureation file that System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts edits?
[04:49] <perlsyntax> i not sure how to run my own pygtk program i  made?
[04:49] <Lucifer_Cat> pawan: why do you need to ask?
[04:50] <cpro> ScottG489 i mean all the softwares
[04:50] <_2> soreau http://pastebin.com/f3c7d2d0f
[04:50] <cpro> tritium i agree
[04:50] <cpro> :)
[04:50] <soreau> _2: You aren't using ubuntu?
[04:51] <perlsyntax> ?
[04:51] <_2> soreau no, that lappy is debain lenny.   that was said many times.
[04:51] <ScottG489> cpro: Well the thing is, when changing a partitions size something can do wrong and your data can get messed up. It is generally pretty safe though. I didnt back up my system when I resized my partitions
[04:51] <francis> importing time and then printing ctime in python gives me AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'ctime'. What am I doing wrongly ? Help
[04:51] <soreau> _2: I hadn't been with you from the start. May I ask why you're asking here?
[04:52] <G-Blunted> is there a graphical application to extract .tar.gz files?
[04:52] <_2> soreau cause the folks in #debian aren't any help
[04:52] <cpro> is anybody over here can help me with eclipse
[04:52] <ScottG489> cpro: What are you trying to resize for?
[04:52] <soreau> _2: Why not try #yourdriver?
[04:52] <_2> soreau and i was in here helping,  and thought i would work on my one.
[04:52] <_2> soreau #yourdriver ?
[04:52] <_2> #ati ?
[04:53] <cpro> ScottG489 i had problem in disk space for a time beeing i have deleted some of my files to get the things working
[04:53] <_2> errr #radion
[04:53] <cpro> ScottG489 i will increase my / partition l8r
[04:53] <ScottG489> cpro: ok good luck
[04:53] <spaceBARbarian> i compiled a program but bash wont let me run it, keeps saying permission denied, anyknow who why ?
[04:53] <cpro> ScottG489 thanks
[04:53] <spaceBARbarian> i tried chmod but it doesnt do anything
[04:54] <spaceBARbarian> ls
[04:54] <ScottG489> Is there a configureation file that System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts edits?
[04:54] <cpro> can anybody tell me how to get ejb development on eclipse
[04:54] <matt____> When trying to setup vlc telnet interface, I get main interface error: socket bind error (Permission denied)
[04:54] <_2> soreau what i asked origenally was, does anyone know how to setup xorg.conf for when it "doesn't just work"    and the chase was on...
[04:54] <cpro> can anybody tell me how to get ejb development on eclipse my eclipse version is 3.2
[04:54] <soreau> _2: Anyway, have you tried the monitor config tool for your DE?
[04:54] <kaiden> Hoping someone can point me in the right direction, i'm trying to install to a raid array however ubuntu 8.10 live cd can't see my array, i have access to drivers for the array but haven't a clue how i would get those injected in without rebuilding the kernel
[04:54] <kaiden> Any ideas?
[04:55] <_2> soreau my de ?    umm i don't think twm comes with a monitor config tool
[04:55] <metalpres> is there a way to force a device to keep the same id number on boot,  by id number i meant the id number thats listed when you use the command 'xinput list'
[04:55] <soreau> _2: Then you're definitely asking in the wrong channel ;)
[04:56] <_2> soreau heh.  because it's not gnome either huh ?  :)
[04:56] <metalpres> i have a gamepad that requires me to use a certain command everytime i boot for it to work properly but the command requires entering the id number, but the id number changes everytime to I cant set it to just do it automatically
[04:56] <soreau> _2: Go show the radeon guys your x log, be patient. They're much more qualified to solve both your video related issues
[04:56] <_2> soreau but you did see the glxinfo output i pastebined ?
[04:56] <soreau> _2: Yea, that was wrong and bad
[04:56] <spaceBARbarian> can someoen help me with bash / gcc problems please
[04:57] <_2> wrong and bad ???
[04:57] <mneptok> _2: have you run xfix>
[04:57] <mneptok> ?
[04:57] <soreau> _2: It wasn't the output I asked for but it did reveal that your drivers aren't working correctly which is why I asked for x log and i really don't know what's going on. So I will suggest to you now #radeon
[04:57] <redline565353> does anyone know if you can install linux fully from inside wubi?
[04:58] <usser_> G-Blunted, gnome's built in file-roller does it just fine
[04:58] <Glassworks> how can i fix all my windows opening at 0'0
[04:58] <_2> mneptok nope.  no such command.
[04:58] <mneptok> _2: boot to recovery mode
[04:58] <ScottG489> Glassworks: what window managerdo you have?
[04:58] <Glassworks> oh
[04:58] <Glassworks> gnome
[04:59] <G-Blunted> i have xfce :(
[04:59] <_2> soreau thanks,   really glad you gave a stab at it.
[04:59] <mneptok> Glassworks: most likely your WM is Metacity or Compiz
[04:59] <_2> mneptok ?
[04:59] <Glassworks> right compiz
[04:59] <Glassworks> sorry
[04:59] <_2> mneptok errr ummm why ?
[04:59] <eater9> hi - my screen gets very dim whenever I change consoles or suspend and resume my laptop; i have to use the brightness controls to bring it back up. How can I fix that?
[04:59] <mneptok> _2: boot the machine. look for the "Press <ESC> to enter the GRUB menu" prompt. do so. choose recovery mode.
[05:00] <ScottG489> Glassworks: Hm, I think metacity is gnomes window manager. I could be wrong. I use compiz. I would know how to solve your problem with compiz but otherwise I don't know if there is a way to fix that in metacity
[05:00] <_2> mneptok there isn't a recovery mode.   why do you want me to do that ?
[05:00] <mneptok> _2: because that's where the xfix command lives, which will re-write a sane X config for you.
[05:00] <spaceBARbarian> can someoen help me with bash / gcc problems please
[05:00] <mneptok> _2: if you have no recovery mode, your installation is very, very broken.
[05:00] <ScottG489> Glassworks: The only thing I can tell you is that I would strongly recommend you get compiz
[05:00] <Glassworks> ScottG489 i am using it
[05:01] <_2> mneptok no.   i use lilo.  installation is not broken
[05:01] <spaceBARbarian> i compiled a program but bash wont let me run it, cannot execute binary files, anyone know why ?
[05:01] <mneptok> _2: why lilo?
[05:01] <ScottG489> Glassworks: oh you do have compiz?
[05:01] <Glassworks> yes
[05:01] <_2> mneptok no partitions.
[05:01] <crdlb> mneptok: he's using debian but has come here anyway
[05:01]  * mneptok blinks
[05:01] <trygg> is it possible to open something in nautilus with a "wildcard"?
[05:02] <mneptok> Debian questions in Debian channels is best.
[05:02] <trygg> so if i open .jpg it tells the program to open "feh -option file | whatever" ?
[05:02] <spasticteapot> Does anyone here know how to change my default ALSA soundcard?
[05:02] <soreau> crdlb: xD
[05:02] <_2> mneptok well one would think so.  but not when they don't even try to help.
[05:02] <_2> !alsa
[05:02] <soreau> I was just about to say it
[05:03] <Glassworks> its only some windows that open at 0,0 on the desktop
[05:03] <spaceBARbarian> i compiled a program but bash wont let me run it, cannot execute binary files, anyone know why ?
[05:03] <mneptok> _2: but that's not a good reason to impose on another community of users.
[05:03] <ScottG489> Glassworks:  oh lol. well thats your window manager. gnome is your desktop environment. Your gonna want to head over to #compiz-fusion for help with your window manager. Though ill answer your question really quick right now. Go to ccsm>place windows
[05:03] <_2> spasticteapot there used to be a command on that on the  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting page iirc
[05:03] <spaceBARbarian> PLEASE HELP
[05:03] <_2> mneptok i'm not imposing.   you know i'm a regular here.
[05:04] <spaceBARbarian> i compiled a program but bash wont let me run it, gives error : cannot execute binary files, anyone know why ?
[05:04] <mneptok> _2: if that's so, why not just switch to Ubuntu?
[05:04] <mneptok> _2: end of problem
[05:04] <_2> mneptok i'm using ubuntu
[05:04]  * soreau blinks
[05:04] <_2> can't a guy have more than one os....  sheez
[05:04] <failers> :P
[05:05] <spasticteapot> mneptok: Because Ubuntu's devs have a nasty habit of going for gargantuan things (like a special multimedia-optimized version of Ubuntu) instead of making sure that DVDs will actually play on everyone's computer.
[05:05] <spasticteapot> _2: I think I blew up my volume control.
[05:05] <_2> spaceBARbarian sounds like you are calling it in an odd way....    . filename    or  sh filename   or something.
[05:05] <mneptok> spasticteapot: uhhhh ... do you actually know WHY DVDs don;t play?
[05:05] <chrish> #firefox
[05:06] <_2> spasticteapot sudo alsamixer
[05:06] <spasticteapot> mneptok: It says I've got the appropriate deCSS plugins.
[05:06] <mneptok> spasticteapot: are you willing to pay the licensing fee to the DVD consortium for every Ubuntu user? if not, please sit down. ;)
[05:06] <Glassworks> hum
[05:06] <spasticteapot> Then why are there umpteen dozen DVD-related tools?
[05:07] <mneptok> spasticteapot: they are illegal.
[05:07] <baz> is there a way to show the most recently modified file on the entire file system?
[05:07] <mneptok> spasticteapot: and anyone that distrnutes them in a base installation will be sued out of existance.
[05:07] <spasticteapot> Then what does libdvdread3 do?
[05:07] <mneptok> *distributes
[05:07] <_2> spasticteapot there are non-protected non-restrivted DVD's too you know.
[05:07] <spasticteapot> It says it will do CSS descrambling.
[05:08] <mneptok> spasticteapot: it reads the ISO approved DVD format. after decryption.
[05:08] <spasticteapot> Hmm.
[05:09] <_2> baz  find -anewer   or somesuch
[05:09] <mneptok> spasticteapot: what repo is libdvdread3 in? (hint: it ain't a repo that's gonna get Mark sued out of existence)
[05:09] <spasticteapot> _2: I ran alsamixer, and it says I'm using my default soundcard.
[05:09] <_2> baz anyway find does timestamp checking too
[05:09] <baz> _2, how come find doesn't have proper instructions
[05:10] <_2> spasticteapot mmmm ok.   and did you set the correct one to default and restart alsa ?
[05:10] <spasticteapot> mneptok: Probably the "We're not liable" repository.  Won't work.
[05:13] <spasticteapot> Jackie Chan's Rumble In The Bronx flatly refused to play on my PC.
[05:13] <_2> vlc is gooder than beer
[05:13] <trygg> is it possible to make a .bat-equivalent? cant seem to figure out how to make nautilus open this the right way
[05:13] <spasticteapot> _2: How do you change a default soundcard in alsamixer? (I just read the MAN page.)
[05:13] <_2> and you can quote me on that.
[05:14] <failers> trygg: its called bash
[05:14] <failers> in linux
[05:14] <trygg> yeah, how do i save as one so to say? :D
[05:14] <failers> google it and you will find alot of guides
[05:14] <usser> trygg, not only possible, its encouraged
[05:14] <baz> is there a way to filter a command's "--help" text? For example if I only needed help on the -e switch for ssh: ssh --help e
[05:14] <spaceBARbarian> PLEASE HELP: i compiled a program using gcc, its compiled and LINKED, But when i try to do ./programname , i get a "permission denied", then i did "sudo -s ./programname", and i get "cannot execute binary file"
[05:14] <_2> spasticteapot not in alsamixer.  that's just the volume control.   you change the default card with a few commands...  that page i pointed you at should say what they are.
[05:14] <Charevian> good good
[05:14] <Charevian> hey all
[05:15] <papna> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases claims that Jaunty will have Pidgin 2.6, which is bogus (that may or may not exist by April, if nothing else). Is there someone who knows what software Jaunty will include who can correct the list in the article?
[05:15] <_2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting spasticteapot   that one
[05:15] <trygg> i just want a file to open in a specific way, cant see why nautilus should have problem with that
[05:15] <RussM> spaceBARbarian, type "file ./programname" -- what does it say?
[05:15] <usser> trygg, its not as much about the extension as it is about content of the file and its permissions. every file whose first line is #!/bin/bash will be a shell script
[05:15] <redline565353> guys i got another question, i'm currently installing ubuntu with wubi.... but is there a way i can "get rid of windows"?
[05:15] <Charevian> Baz: command --help | grep <test u want to grep>
[05:15] <comcastscott> good evening. Anybody else having issues opening the account window in Pidgin? I've googled pidgin issues with 8.1 and haven't found it listed.
[05:15] <usser> redline565353, install normally
[05:15] <redline565353> cant
[05:16] <sara_> Commuter Plane Crashes in Buffalo
[05:16] <redline565353> no cd drive
[05:16] <_2> trygg filename.extention means nothing in linux
[05:16] <usser> redline565353, in that case no, wubi relies on windows, you can boot ubuntu from a usb stick
[05:16] <baz> Charevian, oh yeah! grep yet again! Is there anything it can't do? Probably the second most useful command after......................................ssh of course....
[05:16] <trygg> ah, got it.
[05:17] <_2> baz  it doesn't cook
[05:17] <usser> baz, oh, careful there, second most useful command is find :)
[05:17] <spaceBARbarian> RussM: "./cse473-ipc: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped "
[05:17] <Charevian> baz indeed, its usefull for everything :p
[05:17] <_2> baz another you will like is    less
[05:18] <Charevian> usser: no thats the third ... first comes ssh then grep and then find
[05:18] <LionAthlete74> whats up
[05:18] <Charevian> hey LionAthlete74! :)
[05:18] <_2> Charevian mv here. then ....
[05:18] <LionAthlete74> hey
[05:18] <_2> Charevian sorry.  mc
[05:18] <usser> shoot :) my rankings stat are outdated
[05:18] <LionAthlete74> who in here does not have a clan and needs one just asking
[05:18] <trygg> so just #!/bin/bash , enter, the command, and thats it?
[05:19] <usser> a clan, for what
[05:19] <LionAthlete74> Halo 3
[05:19] <spaceBARbarian> PLEASE HELP: i compiled a program using gcc, its compiled and LINKED, But when i try to do ./programname , i get a "permission denied", then i did "sudo -s ./programname", and i get "cannot execute binary file"
[05:19] <LionAthlete74> possibly Halo 2
[05:19] <Charevian> LionAthlete74: just leave if u play windows games :+
[05:19] <usser> trygg, yes command on the new line
[05:19] <RussM> spaceBARbarian, Well, that certainly seems like it should run.
[05:19] <LionAthlete74> no this is on x box live
[05:19] <Charevian> also microshit :+
[05:19] <LionAthlete74> my computer is too slow for computer games
[05:20] <trygg> nautilus complaints that it cant find the program when i select it though
[05:20] <Charevian> LionAthlete74: if your pc is to slow to game, just install ubuntu :)
[05:20] <spasticteapot> _2: Is this the correct syntax? options snd-snd_usb_audio index=0
[05:20] <spasticteapot> options snd-snd_hda_intel index=1
[05:20] <LionAthlete74> thanks but no thanks
[05:20] <Charevian> and LionAthlete74 almost everyone on this channel hates Windows and Microsoft ...
[05:20] <usser> trygg, you have to make your script executable, chmod +x scriptname
[05:20] <_2> LionAthlete74 non-sense  we played games when 8086 came out.
[05:20] <spaceBARbarian> RussM: I know i have no idea wtf is going on :(
[05:20] <trygg> hm, still no dice
[05:20] <LionAthlete74> last time i installed something it made everything turn white
[05:21] <trygg> well, it opens but it wont run
[05:21] <RussM> spaceBARbarian, What does "ldd ./programname" give you?
[05:21] <LionAthlete74> like micheal jackson's skin
[05:21] <spaceBARbarian> RussM: could it have anything to do with me using VBOX ?
[05:21] <Charevian> lol!
[05:21] <trygg> i guess the *.rar isnt likeable
[05:21] <_2> spasticteapot honestly,  i don't know.   i have only help with that one time.
[05:21] <usser> trygg, can you elaborate, what opens and what doesnt work? what are you trying to do?
[05:21] <RussM> spaceBARbarian, That I can't answer, since I haven't tried VBox yet.
[05:21] <Charevian> probably we can make an U-Box x64 / x32 ...
[05:21] <Charevian> i just bought one
[05:21] <spaceBARbarian> RussM: "ldd: warning: you do not have execution permission for `./cse473-ipc'"
[05:21] <LionAthlete74> any way i am new to halocharts.com so does anyone know how this works
[05:22] <trygg> trying to do "unrar p -inul filename.rar | mplayer -" when clicking on a .rar
[05:22] <Charevian> but no hair on my head is thinking about getting microsoft hard/software...
[05:22] <spasticteapot> LionAthlete74: The only thing we do with Xboxes here is try to make clusters out of them.
[05:22] <RussM> So, what's "ls -l cse473-ipc" show/
[05:22] <Charevian> just deleted it from my laptop
[05:22] <spasticteapot> Hooray for microsoft-subsidized hardware!
[05:22] <LionAthlete74> define clusters
[05:22] <Miesco> When is the next release?
[05:22] <spaceBARbarian> RussM: "-rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 13584 2009-02-13 00:16 cse473-ipc"
[05:22] <Charevian> Miesco:  i dont know
[05:22] <usser> trygg, and how do you run it? right clicking on the file? there's a way to add context right-click menus in nautilus
[05:22] <Miesco> 9.4?
[05:23] <LionAthlete74> define clusters
[05:23] <Miesco> april?
[05:23] <spasticteapot> LionAthlete74: Multiple computers connected via high-speed LAN (gigabit ethernet, for example) working in tandem as a single processor to deal with gargantuan computing tasks.
[05:23] <RussM> spaceBARbarian, Well, then just try "chmod +x cse473-ipc"
[05:23] <trygg> usser: yeah thats what im trying to do, just not sure how to tell nautilus to input whatever .rar with filename,
[05:23] <baz> hehe, i like how no one disputes SSH is the best command and its only a matter of whats second...
[05:23] <Charevian> whahaha...
[05:23] <trygg> usser: i put in *.rar now, but i guess thats not right
[05:23] <_2> Charevian hate is such a strong word,   i don't hate M$,  i wouldn't use it if i had to throw all my computers away or use it.   but i don't hate it.  it has it's place.   i'm just not alowed to mention where that place is in a familey freindly channel
[05:23] <spasticteapot> If you want to model, say, what would happen if we dropped a nuke on Steve Ballmer's house, you'd need a cluster. A big one.
[05:23] <Scunizi> spasticteapot: like irc :)
[05:23] <Charevian> i liked to see him quit from irc... :)
[05:23] <RussM> spaceBARbarian, Thought I'm not sure why gcc would create it w/o the execute bit on it.
[05:23] <usser> trygg, try putting $1 instead
[05:23] <trygg> alright
[05:24] <spaceBARbarian> RussM: i did that, it doesnt change anything
[05:24] <spasticteapot> Scunizi: IIRC, internet relay chat servers aren't really a cluster - they work far more independently.
[05:24] <RussM> spaceBARbarian, Try this... copy it to /tmp, then chmod +x it there.
[05:24] <Charevian> _2:  ok, ok, you don't mean it bad :p
[05:24] <_2> :)
[05:24] <Charevian> _2:  i just don't like windows or M$  ;)
[05:24] <trygg> usser: wonderful, thats what i was looking for. what do you call it anyway, wildcard?
[05:25] <RussM> spaceBARbarian, I'm going to take a guess that for some reason, you're on a filesystem mounted with a mask that precludes execute...
[05:25] <Charevian> its everything but not stable ;)
[05:26] <spaceBARbarian> RussM: nice work lol, i totally forgot that i was working out of my Share folder in Vbox
[05:26] <spaceBARbarian> haha what a dumb move
[05:26] <_2> trygg  there are two basic wildcards in the linux shell   ?  and  *   ? will match any single chat and * matches everything
[05:26] <spaceBARbarian> thanks for the help
[05:26] <RussM> spaceBARbarian, np
[05:26] <_2> s=chat=char=
[05:26] <usser> trygg, thats an environment variable, anything that starts with $ is a variable for bash, $1, $2 etc are arguments to the script, ie scriptname hello world, inside the script $1 would expand as hello and $2 would be world
[05:26] <Charevian> hmm _2, be right back, have to restart, just installed ubuntu in time i chatted here :p
[05:26] <trygg> usser: guess i'll have to read up on some guides :)
[05:27] <Charevian> so cya in some minutes.
[05:27] <Mr_Goodkat> smb using ubuntu netbook remix?
[05:27] <_2> ok
[05:27] <usser> trygg, yea bash is powerful, much more powerful than window batch files, there are linux distributions out there whose entire package management system is written in bash
[05:31] <trygg> anyway, cedega is still the best way to go if you want to wine a 2d dx9 game, right?
[05:31] <Anacranom> #cedega
[05:31] <FancyPants> hello
[05:32] <Titan8990> !appdb | trygg
[05:32] <FancyPants> first time here! Hello!
[05:32] <_2> it tic's me off that i can't pastebin some things.   like if there are more than 100 lines
[05:32] <Anacranom> !ask | FancyPants
[05:33] <Titan8990> _2, 100 lines is a lot for someone on irc to read....
[05:33] <FancyPants> will note thank you
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> _2: Bug in the pastebin you're using or something?
[05:33] <Anacranom> FancyPants, good to meet you, this is a busy chanel, please be precise, if you need more look me up
[05:34] <FancyPants> will do thank you
[05:34] <_2> tonyyarusso not sure, it's pastebinit.py from the repos
[05:34] <_2> tonyyarusso it's probably my connection speed.  there isn't one.
[05:34] <Mr_Goodkat> _2 you can use http://www.rafb.net/paste/
[05:34] <FancyPants> just going to sit back and watch for a bit
[05:34] <deepz> anyone aware of ffwrap??
[05:35]  * sara_ is amaised http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_commercial_aircraft#2009 was allready updated
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> !away > nick|away
[05:35] <_2> Mr_Goodkat i don't think it's the remote,  i think it's the script
[05:35]  * sara_ is sorry she posted in the wrong box
[05:37] <usser> hm
[05:37] <usser> where'd everybody go?
[05:37] <FancyPants> still here
[05:38] <Anacranom> usser, netsplit?
[05:38] <usser> no doesnt look like it
[05:38] <usser> man i've never seen this channel so quiet
[05:38] <FancyPants> Hi my name  is Fancy Pants and I use Ubuntu
[05:38] <FancyPants> LOL
[05:39] <usser> well looks like our work here supporting users is done, everyone's happy. we can go home now
[05:39] <_2> :)
[05:39] <dayo2> tgif
[05:39] <Anacranom> yay!
[05:40] <Anacranom> so 8.04 has NO more issues,,, we're good... G'night
[05:40] <deepz> anyone aware of ffwrap??
[05:40] <baz> i am now deepz
[05:40] <deepz> i have problem in compiling
[05:40] <Titan8990> !ask | deepz
[05:41] <alap> hi, can any one help to solve my problem relating driver installation using modprobe?????
[05:41] <_2> http://pastebin.com/f42df83b9
[05:41] <Titan8990> !ask | alap
[05:41] <Anacranom> alap, sound issues possibly?
[05:42] <Anacranom> and true-dat Titan8990
[05:42] <alap> hi, i am trying to install driver using modprobe but unable to do so getting error as FATAL: Error inserting serial_lcd (/lib/modules/2.6.24-23-386/extra/serial_lcd.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) so can anyone help me to get out of here.
[05:42] <Anacranom> alap, using 8.10?
[05:42] <Titan8990> alap, pastebin the results of:  sudo dmesg
[05:42] <deepz>  gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory
[05:43] <alap> when i yes
[05:43] <alap> yes
[05:43] <_2> dmesg works without sudo
[05:43] <deepz> i have installed gtk packages
[05:44] <Titan8990> deepz, that looks like its looking for the gtk packages in its source directory
[05:44] <_2> deepz look like it's looking for gtk2-dev  or some such
[05:44] <Titan8990> deepz, but thats not enough info to say for sure
[05:44] <Anacranom> 2.6.24~ looks like 8.04
[05:44] <Titan8990> deepz, and yes, you do need the -dev whenever compiling
[05:44] <deepz> ok let me check
[05:44] <Titan8990> !compile | deepz
[05:45] <redline565353> ok i've got another problem.... tried to boot into ubuntu from the install with wubi but keep crashing/freezeing with the last message "too much work for irq3"
[05:45] <CorbinFox> is there a program to stream audio from my computer over the net?
[05:46] <Titan8990> redline565353, try adding this to your kernel boot line:  acpi=off nopic
[05:46] <redline565353> how would i do that?
[05:46] <Titan8990> redline565353, do that by pressing "e" at the grub screen with ubuntu highlighted
[05:46] <rip_> whats the command in terminal to remove a directory, all its files, and daughter directories?
[05:46] <redline565353> k
[05:47] <Titan8990> redline565353, then you highlight kernel line and press e again
[05:47] <bernz> CorbinFox, probably something like 'icecast' or some shoutcast server variant
[05:47] <_2> rip_ rm
[05:47] <Titan8990> redline565353, edit, enter to save, b to boot it
[05:47] <Scunizi> rip_: rm -rf <path>
[05:47] <rip_> CorbinFox: icecast works great
[05:47] <CorbinFox> i'll check those out
[05:47] <rip_> Scunizi: thx, thats what i was looking for
[05:47] <RonDutt> How can I rsync over ssh without carrying over the permissions?
[05:47] <maxime> hi everyone :D
[05:47] <_2> rip_ note -f is force   you may not what or need that
[05:47] <bernz> CorbinFox, yeah, look into 'icecast' as first pick
[05:48] <alap> Titan8990: yes i checked with dmesg also but i am getting following lines as 1) serial_lcd: module license 'unspecified' taints kernel. 2) serial_lcd: Unknown symbol usb_serial_register. 3) serial_lcd: Unknown symbol usb_serial_deregister. so please specify me what to do
[05:48] <Titan8990> RonDutt, check the --perms option, not certain
[05:48] <_2> rip_ the logical oppisite is -i interactive
[05:48] <JamesG> Hi. I'm on a machine which was installed as a server.. ie, no X.. ie, Googling = tricky. Can anyone tell me how to convert this into a machine which inits straight into X?
[05:48] <jeff__> can  i know rm rf can use like low format or not?
[05:48] <Titan8990> !pastebin | alap
[05:49] <Titan8990> alap, upload the whole dmesg there
[05:49] <_2> jeff__ you want shred
[05:49] <rip_> _2: didnt know about -i, but -rf was what i was trying to remember.  -i makes more sense
[05:49] <maxime> I like this chan, pretty friendly
[05:49] <_2> rip_ debian based distros generally don't alias the rm command so -f generally isn't needed or wanted
[05:49] <redline565353> ok i pressed e to edit the kernal and i got "<OOTFLAGS=syncio" do i put a space?
[05:49]  * rip_ cheers maxime
[05:50] <Titan8990> that was what the entire kernel line said?
[05:51] <bernz> JamesG, if you've already installed and set up X, probably just add 'startx' to the end of one of your startup scripts (look in /etc/rc?.d/*
[05:51] <redline565353> no thats after the rootflags bit i didnt scroll back to see rest
[05:51] <_2> rip_ redhat based distros generally "did" alias rm="rm -i"   so -f was needed to counter act the -i
[05:51] <rip_> _2: ooooh ok, gotchya
[05:51] <usser> JamesG, did u install x server?
[05:51] <Titan8990> redline565353, yes, put a space, but it usually ends in:  splash quiet
[05:51] <Titan8990> redline565353, I have never used wubi though
[05:51] <JamesG> bernz: I haven't yet. I assume that, since there's a desktop version, there might be a package I can use.
[05:51] <alap> Titan8990, http://paste.ubuntu.com/117539/
[05:51] <rip_> _2: yea the last time i did any file manipulation was back in like 2000 on redhat
[05:52] <rip_> _2: using shell**
[05:52] <usser> JamesG, you generally don want to install gnome or any metapackage like ubuntu-desktop on a server it has so much cruft
[05:52] <bernz> JamesG, yep, i just can't think of the package name off-hand (it's probably not simply 'x')
[05:52] <JamesG> I did manage to do some googling via links (happy happy joy joy), and it appears to suggest the ubuntu-desktop package
[05:52] <JamesG> usser: It was installed as a server, I'm converting it to a desktop
[05:52] <bernz> oh yeah, perhaps xfce is lightweight enough
[05:52] <JamesG> I don't need lightweight :)
[05:52] <Titan8990> alap, thats code?
[05:52] <usser> JamesG, oh then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop should do
[05:52] <_2> rip_ yeah  that's why i mentioned it.   many people cut their teeth on rh# and now they just default to rm -f  everything
[05:53] <JamesG> Roger that
[05:53] <Titan8990> alap, was looking for dmesg
[05:53] <Titan8990> alap, did you compile the module from source?
[05:54] <Guest56595> does any1 know how to change the permissions on a locked file system file???
[05:55] <Anacranom> Guest56595, what is the path?
[05:55] <Guest56595> any1 here?
[05:56] <Guest56595> im tryn to put VPNC on my comp and its lockd
[05:56]  * _2 thinks Guest56595 can't see
[05:56] <redline565353> ok i've done that and now i'm in busybox what do i do next ?
[05:57] <Guest56595> what do u mean i cant see
[05:57] <RussM> Guest56595, VPNC? What's VPNC, and what do you mean by "locked"?
[05:57] <ScottG489> What command actually opens up the Network Connections window in ubuntu?
[05:57] <Anacranom> Guest56595, you have to be more elaborate with the question
[05:57] <alap> Titan8990, http://paste.ubuntu.com/117542/
[05:57] <Titan8990> Guest56595, remove noapic , keep acpi=off , doesn't work swap it. Is this new hardware?
[05:57] <bernz> ( VPNC == virtual private network computer? :-D ) i'm guessing 'VNC' is what was intended, or?
[05:58] <Titan8990> alap, did you compile this module from source?
[05:58] <RussM> bernz, Maybe Cisco's VPN client?
[05:58] <alap> Titan8990, yes
[05:58] <Titan8990> alap, where did you get it?
[05:58] <pegal_linux> konichiwa
[05:59] <bernz> RussM, i dunno... your guess is as good as mine
[05:59] <lvlefisto> !jp | pegal_linux
[05:59] <Guest56595> sry, Virtual p... network, its a program and i cant get it to ope... i dwn lwded it thre a terminal and i cant get to it
[05:59] <GBGames> I have a laptop that is still using 7.04, and I want to upgrade to 7.10. When I try to do so through the update manager, it tells me no valid mirror found, apparently because it simply replaces feisty with gutsy while leaving the old-releases instead of getting them from a valid URL.
[05:59] <bernz> VPN then
[05:59] <GBGames> Any ideas of what I need to do?
[05:59] <alap> Titan8990, its pl2303 code I had modified it with my view for learning purpose
[06:00] <Guest56595> did i explain it good enough?
[06:00] <Guest56595> lol
[06:00] <Titan8990> alap, you may be in the wrong channel for that
[06:00] <smokinjoe> Can anyone help I am trying to connect my vista laptop to Samba, I have my host name for my ubuntu machine but what password do I use, the one I used to set up Samba or Ubuntu?
[06:00] <RussM> Guest56595, OK, I'm guessing cisco's VPN client. So, you downloaded it in a terminal, but you can't get it to install? Still have the terminal open? What kind of file is it?
[06:00] <_2> GBGames yeah  manually change the sources.list and then try
[06:00] <Scunizi> !upgrade | GBGames
[06:01] <GBGames> Scunizi: Those upgrade notes aren't helpful for 7.04->7.10
[06:01] <_2> Scunizi won't work for him.   he'll have to edit his sources.list
[06:01] <bernz> Guest56595, okay, what did you mean by 'locked'?
[06:01] <RussM> Guest56595, Does the filename end with ".tar.gz"?
[06:01] <garbo> hello, i have tried to install 8.10 with 7gb for the root partition and 3 gbs for the home partition and 1 gb for the swap during half way of the installation i get  a hdd error, Is it because i need more space for the root partition?
[06:01] <alap> Titan8990, its drivrr  code for pl2303 serial cable
[06:01] <Scunizi> GBGames: separate your home to it's own partition and install the remainder of the system fresh..
[06:02] <_2> garbo absolutely not.
[06:02] <smokinjoe> !samba
[06:02] <fiasco|home> hey whats a driver I can install so my vista box can read my ext3 partition external hard drive
[06:03] <_2> garbo rootfs need only have enough room for the system and the primary packages.   thus 5g is more than enough
[06:03] <Titan8990> alap, yeah, but if you are trying to modify code and get it to work, you most likely want to be talking to other programmers
[06:03] <garbo> _2; than why do i only get that error with ubuntu? i tried 8.10 and 8.4  same thing but when i tried pclinuxos it instead fine with the same space
[06:03] <Guest56595> RussM i messaged u
[06:03] <smokinjoe> Trying to map a network drive anyone?
[06:04] <Titan8990> !ask | smokinjoe
[06:04] <fiasco|home> smokinjoe: yes but samba is slower
[06:04] <_2> garbo dont know why you get a disk error.  probably the install disk and not the target.   maybe not enough ram ?     but the target spaces well exceeds the needed.
[06:04] <bernz> smokinjoe, since you have only two options, you might as well try each in turn
[06:04] <Guest56595> SmokenJoe me2! if u find nething out u should message it to me
[06:04] <smokinjoe> What should I use??
[06:04] <quibbler> fiasco|home: look here: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[06:04] <bernz> smokinjoe, but you can be certain by understanding a little more
[06:04] <garbo> _2: i have 1gb of ram  and the 8.10 disk is new its from shipit
[06:05] <badfish69> how can i create a dvd disc out of mpeg files?
[06:05] <Titan8990> smokinjoe, ftp :)
[06:05] <garbo> _2: every other distro works fine its just ubuntu  weird @_@
[06:05] <smokinjoe> I want to map a network drive on my vista laptop
[06:05] <_2> garbo i installed ubuntu 6.6 on a p1 with 128m ram and 2g hdd    so it's not the space.
[06:05] <bernz> smokinjoe, i think you'll want to use your samba password, because i think what you're trying to do is get samba to pretend to be windows-friendly, so it needs an authorization (windows networking)... i could be wrong, but you'll never know unless you read about it at the samba homesite... :-D
[06:05] <Guest56595> RUSSM ru there?
[06:05] <Titan8990> smokinjoe, webDAV, if you want it to be fast
[06:05] <smokinjoe> I tried connecting to ubuntu-desktop
[06:06] <mib_hjbqwz> can someone open the package manager and see it they can search for something called kvm. I found it when i was on the live cd but now i installed ubuntu and cant find it so i would like someone else to try
[06:06] <usser> badfish69, try devede
[06:06] <oss> What command actually opens up the Network Connections window in ubuntu?
[06:06] <alap> Titan8990, yes you are right but i am asking about error message at the time of modprobe because if there is any problem in program den it will not work but it will get installed atleast
[06:06] <_2> garbo if ubuntu ever requires 7g of rootfs just to install.  i'll stop supporting it.
[06:06] <badfish69> i fotgot all about devede
[06:06] <badfish69> thanks
[06:06] <garbo> _2: so space is not a problem than what coud it be,,,,,,, it actually installed inside windows but with live installer it did not
[06:07] <_2> garbo idk.    have you tried the "alternate install" iso ?
[06:07] <joshjtl> is VLC qt, or gtk?
[06:07] <Titan8990> alap, did you build that against your current running kernel source code?
[06:07] <joshjtl> i was about to install it, and it wanted to install a bunch of qt libs... i was surprised
[06:07] <oss> <
[06:07] <garbo> _2: that's a problem i don't have any spare cds :-( i am only using the ones i got from the mail
[06:08] <quibbler> mib_hjbqwz: i have kvm in synaptic
[06:08] <usser> joshjtl, they switched from wxwidgets to qt in 0.9
[06:08] <joshjtl> oh lame
[06:08] <mib_hjbqwz> what would be causing it to nt show up on mine?
[06:08] <bernz> smokinjoe, you mean you want a linux drive to appear on your vista machine as a drive letter?
[06:09] <Titan8990> alap, no idea on the last two errors but if I had to guess I would say that the first error was due the module not being compiled with the kernel source...
[06:09] <Titan8990> alap, other than that wild guess, I don't think I will be of much help
[06:09] <alap> Titan8990, yes its giving warning messages at registration of driver but kernel is building module without any error
[06:09] <mib_hjbqwz> and how do i check what my kernal version is
[06:09] <Anacranom> alap, Titan8990 ,  2.6.24~ looks like older kernel, what you trying to compile to?
[06:09] <garbo> _2: is installing inside windows and live installer the same things? performance wise?
[06:10] <Titan8990> Anacranom, not that old, 2.6.29-r3 is the latest stable....
[06:10] <atom^x> mib_hjbqwz, uname  -a
[06:10] <quibbler> mib_hjbqwz: to check  your kernal:  uname -a
[06:10] <redline565353> i'm going to give up i think i never had any problems installing all diff versions apart from a few drivers but now cant even get up and running :(
[06:11] <_2> joshjtl the version of vlc in dapper isn't dependant on either qt or gtk
[06:11] <Titan8990> redline565353, i blame wubi
[06:11] <garbo> do you get the same performance if you install via wubi?
[06:11] <redline565353> i dont know what to do then cos my cd drive dont work and i cant boot from usb :/
[06:11] <_2> garbo no.  you will take a performance hit when you install within wubi
[06:12] <garbo> _2: ok thanks
[06:12] <alap> Anacranom, trying to compile a driver
[06:12] <quibbler> garbo: no
[06:12] <mib_hjbqwz> is this the newest one Linux Ubuntu 2.6.27-7-generic #1 SMP Fri Oct 24 06:42:44 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux?
[06:12] <Titan8990> redline565353, virtualbox
[06:12] <Anacranom> Titan8990, yes, but big difference when 8.04 uses .24 and 8.10 uses .27, and lots of things broke in 8.10
[06:12] <usser> mib_hjbqwz, im on 2.6.27-11 here
[06:13] <BIAF> Hi, anyone know the best ubuntu channel to get help in relation to ISPConfig / Ubuntu
[06:13] <atom^x> mib_hjbqwz,  dont think so
[06:13] <redline565353> but wont that have about the same performance as windows?
[06:13] <_2> usser 2.6.15-53-686 here :)))
[06:13] <Titan8990> redline565353, lol yes, but not if you run something like fluxbox
[06:13] <BIAF> @ me usser?
[06:13] <mib_hjbqwz> o, i had ubuntu installed earlier and it updated the kernal and then i reinstalled it
[06:13] <mib_hjbqwz> how do i update the ernal?
[06:14] <mib_hjbqwz> kernal*
[06:14] <Titan8990> mib_hjbqwz, update manager
[06:14] <mib_hjbqwz> Titan8990: thanks
[06:14] <Titan8990> mib_hjbqwz, np
[06:15] <garbo> Anacranom: what broke in 8.10
[06:16] <bernz> smokinjoe, perhaps the best thing to do is read about smb.conf
[06:16] <mib_hjbqwz> could an older kernal be causing kvm not be listed in the package manager?
[06:16] <_2> mib_hjbqwz or apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:16] <Anacranom> garbo, lots
[06:16] <usser> mib_hjbqwz, most likely you dont have some repositories enabled, multiverse, universe?
[06:17] <bernz> smokinjoe, or maybe read about SWAT (samba web administration tool)
[06:17] <_2> mib_hjbqwz that will update the kernel if there is a newer version in the same release
[06:17] <redline565353> would you know why my cd drive boots from my "backup xp cd" and wont read linux ones properly?
[06:17] <IX26> exit
[06:18] <_2> redline565353 not burned correctly ?
[06:18] <mib_hjbqwz> _2: i am just using the update manager and doing them all
[06:18] <redline565353> they burned the same way same prog they work on this comp but only xp cd does on other
[06:18] <_2> redline565353 or the xp cd may just bounce to the hidden partition and the boot actually happen there
[06:18] <_2> mib_hjbqwz k
[06:19] <djhash> redline565353: old computer?
[06:19] <redline565353> it's an advent 6418 about 4 years old
[06:19] <mib_hjbqwz> usser: all them are checked, just not source code
[06:19] <quibbler> mib_hjbqwz: use synaptic
[06:19] <papna> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases claims that Jaunty will have Pidgin 2.6, which is bogus (that may or may not exist by April, if nothing else). Is there someone who knows what software Jaunty will include who can correct the list in the article?
[06:19] <Anacranom> garbo, i have 8 boxes, varying hardware, things that just worked OOTB in 8.04, dont in 8.10, granted (most) its fixed since its release, but not good from start
[06:20] <Titan8990> !jaunty | papna
[06:20] <mib_hjbqwz> oh, on the third party tab those arent checked
[06:20] <Titan8990> papna, you can download the daily snapshot if you want
[06:20] <redline565353> is 8.04 better?
[06:20] <Titan8990> redline565353, it is the lts release
[06:20] <Titan8990> !lts | redline565353
[06:20] <papna> Titan8990, I am not interested in the information, I am interested in the wikipedia article being correct but without doing any real research myself.
[06:20] <_2> Anacranom 8.4 should be getting pretty stable by now too
[06:20] <redline565353> hmmmmm
[06:21] <Titan8990> papna, lol
[06:21] <redline565353> cos i've tried with my 7.04 and 7.10 and 8.10 with no joy so far
[06:21] <Titan8990> papna, i think pidgin has their own repositories
[06:22] <Anacranom> redline565353, .04 is supported longer, 9.04 will be released in a few months,
[06:22] <papna> Titan8990, Pidgin doesn't have their own repositories in any meaningful way (they have a public Hg and releases on their website), but no matter what they're not up to 2.6 anywhere, and even if they were, Jaunty probably won't have it.
[06:22] <_2> redline565353 sounds like you have some phenikey hardware
[06:22] <Anacranom> redline565353, tried what?
[06:22] <atom^x> papna, I am interested in a paycheck, but not the work!
[06:23] <_2> atom^x you too ?
[06:23] <redline565353> the thing is i can and have installed many versions of windows legal and not but i want linux :(
[06:23] <papna> Titan8990, The oddest thing is that the one reference was to the history of the Pidgin package. This was my third time seeing if anyone else wanted to fix it. I'll just delete that part of the article if no one wants to.
[06:23] <Titan8990> papna, so you already knew the answer?
[06:23] <atom^x> _2, you bet
[06:24] <jeeves_Moss> has anyone ever gone through the full install of 8.1 server on a proliant 5500 and then on reboot, it says "error loading OS"
[06:24] <papna> Titan8990, I don't know what the Pidgin version will be (just that the article is incorrect), I don't no how to read the cited source, and I don't trust any of the other information.
[06:24] <Titan8990> jeeves_Moss, that occur before grub screen?
[06:25] <Anacranom> redline565353, ok, i'm lost as to what you want.. but i am a recent total windows convert
[06:25] <jeeves_Moss> I don't even get a grub
[06:25] <Titan8990> !grub | jeeves_Moss
[06:25] <Titan8990> jeeves_Moss, need to make sure its installed
[06:25] <_2> jeeves_Moss there is no 8.1  8.18 you mean ?
[06:25] <Titan8990> jeeves_Moss, are you using RAID?
[06:26] <jeeves_Moss> Titan8990, yes, it's a RAID box
[06:26] <Droopsta915> can I burn an ubuntu .iso image on a dvd? If so, can I burn multiple .iso images on dvd, and are they bootable?
[06:26] <redline565353> anacranom im trying to get linux on my laptop scos im fed up with windows
[06:26] <_2> !version | jeeves_Moss not like it matters
[06:26] <Anacranom> redline565353, and what is stopping you?
[06:26] <Titan8990> jeeves_Moss, use the restore grub link and see if you can get grub
[06:27] <redline565353> cant install
[06:27] <_2> !release | jeeves_Moss not like it matters   (sorry)
[06:27] <_2> first one was an ooops
[06:28] <Droopsta915> redline565353:Did you download the Ubuntu .iso?
[06:28] <redline565353> yea
[06:28] <kv0nza> hey i was trying to install ubuntu (as well as alot of other distros) and none of them seem to install, they get stuck on the "Loading" section of the install and because it is for all the distros i have tried i am going to take a guess that it could be a driver problem
[06:29] <_2> Droopsta915 you can burn one iso to dvd and it will be bootable   you can copy several iso images to a dvd and they will not be bootable but will be accessable as iso files
[06:29] <kv0nza> is there any way to check if my hardware is compatible?
[06:30] <_2> kv0nza some hardware specs ?
[06:30] <_2> !hardware | kv0nza
[06:31] <Droopsta915> _2: sounds like I will be booting from dvd, thanks.
[06:32] <kv0nza> here is my specs
[06:32] <kv0nza> http://www.d-a-l.com/hardware-scanner/app/results.php?id=d2778c24040d5e35ae595441f98b2280
[06:32] <_2> Droopsta915 note.  there is a dvd iso   it contains more software and more boot options
[06:33] <casdf> hi, im having trouble connecting to a WPA2 PEAP network using network-manager
[06:33] <Droopsta915> redline565353:Why can't you install?
[06:33] <asc> Is there a reason 8.10 was shipped with networking that doesn't work?
[06:33] <usser> asc, what do you mean?
[06:33] <Droopsta915> asc: I don't like 8.10, I went back to 8.04 myself.
[06:34] <casdf> well, drats. im on 8.10 btw
[06:34] <asc> usser: After restarting, networking is down. This is kind of unfunny when you're trying to do networking things on a tty.
[06:34] <kv0nza> can u see anything there that might be problemmatic
[06:35] <asc> Droopsta915: Unfortunately, they somehow managed to break ion3 on 8.04 so it doesn't work at all :p
[06:35] <_2>  * Total Current Physical Memory: 4.00 GB
[06:35] <_2> * Maximum Memory Capacity: 2.00 GB
[06:35] <_2> hehhee
[06:35] <ice_cream> shot down
[06:35] <kv0nza> lol i am running x64
[06:35] <kv0nza> stupid scanner >_>
[06:35] <Droopsta915> asc: ;)
[06:36] <asc> Well, that and wine constantly segfaulted under 64-bit. I'm hoping that it works on 8.10_x64 or I'm going to get really tetchy.
[06:36] <asc> *with a particular program
[06:36] <kv0nza> i can't boot a live cd or a widows install using wubi either
[06:37] <casdf> anyone have help for WPA2 on 8.10?
[06:37] <Droopsta915> kv0nza: did you change the boot sequence?
[06:38] <kv0nza> i have no idea what that means lol, i am a "noob" at linux and am trying to reinstall as i had it on my old machine
[06:38] <kv0nza> i am running it straight off the cd using the install option
[06:38] <kv0nza> then it just gets stuck and i have to do a hard restart
[06:41] <Droopsta915> kv0nza: When your system is starting up, look for the setup menu, it's quick. On my laptop I hit F12 at the first screen. That takes me to the boot menu.
[06:41] <Tyrath> could anyone help me diagnose my wireless problem?
[06:41] <MiladKhajavi> how can I get the amount size of a directory with command line?
[06:41] <asc> MiladKhajavi: du -hs directory-name
[06:41] <kv0nza> oh u mean like what device it read from first
[06:41] <kv0nza> is*
[06:41] <kv0nza> yea the cd is loading
[06:42] <Droopsta915> kv0nza:You can change the boot sequence, and make the Ubuntu cd boot from disk at start up.
[06:42] <alap> Titan8990,then please tell me where should i ask for this problem
[06:42] <MiladKhajavi> asc: thanks
[06:42] <kv0nza> but i can;t do into live desktop view or install
[06:42] <kv0nza> it just gets stuck
[06:42] <anom01y> anyone know how to detect usb devices in xfce ? I can't even locate a usb memory stick in /dev..
[06:44] <bernz> anom01y, fwiw, i'm having a USB issue in which devices aren't detected, but it seems to be because my mobo-integrated hosts controllers aren't being initialized (don't yet know why)
[06:44] <Droopsta915> !mount
[06:44] <bernz> anom01y, you might want to at least 'lsusb' to see if your hosts are working
[06:45] <Droopsta915> !usb
[06:45] <anom01y> bernz, yeah I see it there, but where is it in /dev, and how to I make xfce automatically detect it when it gets plugged in ?
[06:45] <quibbler> kv0nza: have you check the integrity of the cd ...one of the options is to check the cd
[06:46] <shad_> ubottu, how to make a memory test in ubuntu
[06:46] <Droopsta915> !memory test
[06:46] <bernz> anom01y, generally, it will show up in dev as 'sdx' ('sdx1', 'sdx2', ...) where 'x' is 'a', 'b', 'c', ... depending on how many disks are attached
[06:47] <casdf> so if i were to follow the tutorial on here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318539 what would be the next step? once its config'ed, how do i actively connect?
[06:47] <anom01y> bernz, yeah sounds good. I found out how to solve my prob.
[06:47] <bernz> anom01y, as for auto-mounting, you can specify that in fstab ('man fstab'), but i don't know about getting an icon to appear on the desktop automagically
[06:47] <brianski> am i the only person having trouble with my hda intel sound device recently?
[06:47] <bernz> anom01y, okay, cool
[06:47] <brianski> (on intrepid)
[06:47] <shad_> Droopsta915, to handle something like bad sector, defragmentation etc
[06:48] <Droopsta915> anom01y:my usb shows up in /dev/media
[06:48] <bernz> Droopsta915, don't you mean '/media/[name-of-volume]'?
[06:48] <Droopsta915> shad_:thanks
[06:49] <Droopsta915> anom01y:my usb shows up in /dev/media/disk
[06:49] <shad_> ubottu, how to know which distributor is i am using
[06:50] <bernz> Droopsta915, in that case, your udev is ill and needs love :-)
[06:50] <Droopsta915> anom01y:Do you dual boot, with Windows?
[06:50] <anom01y> Droopsta915, nope
[06:50] <Droopsta915> bernz:Oh, I luv it all night ;)
[06:50] <casdf> is there a way to downgrade from 8.10 to 8.04?
[06:51] <casdf> without wiping and reinstalling
[06:52] <quibbler> casdf: no
[06:52] <Droopsta915> anom01y:I'm asking because I couldn't get my new flash drive to mount, but I went into my xp box and it automatically detected it. I got back into Ubuntu and there it is, I don't know what happened, but it mounted.
[06:52] <mib_pythcb> Memtest86 shows 509mb ram but dosn't show errors when i run it, ubuntu wont boot. do i have a ram prob. i have a 512 stick installed!
[06:53] <Droopsta915> mib_pythcb: have you tried changing the boot sequence? I changed the device to boot from cd and was able to install
[06:54] <casdf> so from what im reading, 8.04's network manager worked, and 8.10's is borked...
[06:55] <bernz> casdf, that's for wireless, or? (i'm running 8.10 on LAN... LAN never has problems :-)
[06:56] <Tyrath> what do people make of this: http://pastebin.com/f38a7e827    - is there something wrong here?
[06:57] <mib_pythcb> Droopstar915: live cd crashes, ubuntu is all ready installed, I did have a bad 1gig stick that showed bad mem 639mb, but it would boot
[06:58] <shad_> any one can tell me ,how i know whether my processor is of 32 bit or 64 bit
[06:58]  * |Sigma| waves
[06:58] <mib_pythcb> Droopstar915: Im just trying to get my computer running un i get the mem replaced
[06:58]  * redline565353 waves back
[06:59] <bernz> Tyrath, looks like the WAP is "old" -- the client is requesting something and timing out awaiting a response? (and it loops)... looks "wrong"
[07:00] <anom01y> anyone know how to access usb devices through xfce ?
[07:00] <axscode> hi guys i have a problem.. segment fault on nautilus
[07:00] <bernz> Tyrath, i'm not really that familiar with low-level wifi problems, but a lot of times, a misconfiguration results in counter-intuitive errors, and you end up blaming a mistyped network key on something more exotic
[07:00] <axscode> is there anyway to know how to isolate the problem?
[07:00] <anom01y> there is no links, hints, messages nothing regarding the usb stick I just plugged in to a 100% working usb port and stick.
[07:00] <alap> Titan8990, then please tell me where should i ask for this problem
[07:01] <bernz> (like "mysterious RF interference" -- although my microwave temporarily blots out my WiFi at home -- kinda creepy)
[07:01] <Droopsta915> I'm a reinstall junky, if I can't fix a problem in 24 hours (me sitting at computer for 24 hours) I reinstall and fix it.;)
[07:01] <bernz> Droopsta915, do you ever end up actual configuring a system to your liking? ;-p
[07:01] <slowaris> does ubuntu has plugin/extension for grammar checker in openoffice?
[07:02] <bernz> actually, even
[07:02] <shad_> Droopsta915, can u tell me how to know that my processor is of 32 or 64 bit
[07:02] <RussM> shad cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:03] <Droopsta915> bernz:Yes, I reinstalled 8.04 and got it to my liking. I don't think I've reinstalled in at least 6 months. Hardy is my heroe!
[07:03] <Titan8990> alap, I am unsure really, sorry I couldn't help more
[07:03] <Titan8990> alap, or at all really....
[07:03] <bernz> Droopsta915, awesome, I'm only having one major issue (USB) with 8.10, but I didn't even try 8.04 (maybe I should just give the live CD a try to see if all my USB hosts work)
[07:04] <bernz> anom01y, you can watch the kernel messages to see if it at least detects your stick
[07:05] <bestus> CLARA
[07:05] <bernz> anom01y, maybe something like 'tail -f /var/log/messages'
[07:05] <Droopsta915> shad_: open a terminal and type sudo lshw, that will give you all your computer specifications, hope it helps.
[07:05] <bernz> anom01y, and then plug in your device and watch for "chatter"
[07:05] <slowaris> anyone?
[07:06] <doubletoker> hey, I been reading the site
[07:06] <doubletoker> I can't seem to get my ubuntu to work wireless
[07:06] <appledoze> hey!
[07:06] <appledoze> hi
[07:07] <Droopsta915> slowaris:It should detect a misspelled word automatically.
[07:07] <axscode> help
[07:07] <axscode> someone knows how to trace problem when nautilus have a segfault?
[07:07] <appledoze> when i get to the boot screen and i choose ubuntu it takes me to the grub4dos screen
[07:07] <bernz> if it's reproducible, gdb?
[07:08] <doubletoker> it says disabled, I got it to work once, but messed up my install, so I reinstalled the whole system, now it don't work again, not sure if anyone can help, got a laptop, amd64 and lshw says disabled next to it
[07:08] <Droopsta915> doubletoker:go to system>hardware drivers and make sure you have your proprietary drivers working.
[07:08] <doubletoker> does anyone know how to make it say 1 or 0 next to it
[07:08] <appledoze> this happens when i install it as an application of windows, or through wubi
[07:08] <doubletoker> it doesn't show up in the list
[07:08] <casdf> bernz: yeah LAN works great, but uh
[07:08] <bernz> casdf, you need wireless, right?
[07:08] <Tyrath> bernz: is there a way I could update my WAP?
[07:09] <casdf> bernz: ive been reading that wifi, esp. wpa2, is a step back
[07:09] <slowaris> for now it's on text based after upgrading to 8.10,anyone how can i modify my image background after bios boot time?
[07:09] <|Sigma|> anyone interested in giving me a hand? I have a strange problem... wireless card refuses to get an ipv4 address, but it manages to get an ipv6 easily enough
[07:09] <doubletoker> Droopsta915: it doesn't show up in that list of the proprietary drivers
[07:09] <bernz> Tyrath, i guess i'd check the manufacturer site to see if there's a firmware update or something; often it fixes bugs, especially in encryption and authentication routines
[07:09] <Droopsta915> splash!
[07:09] <doubletoker> but it shows the interface
[07:10] <Droopsta915> !splash
[07:10] <axscode> how about nautilus
[07:10] <bernz> Tyrath, but that's assuming the WAP is the culprit, which is just a guess... i'd reconfigure everything carefully to make sure you aren't missing any settings, or haven't botched any (typos, etc)
[07:10] <Droopsta915> what brand laptop or comp you have?
[07:11] <doubletoker> Compaq
[07:11] <bernz> casdf, well, wep is long dead, and wpa is no longer considered secure, but wpa2 is the best thing available *commonly*, so it's worth trying to get it working as opposed to leaving a WAP unsecured
[07:11] <doubletoker> laptop
[07:12] <slowaris> Droopsta915: is that splash you mean after bios or is that the background image when the login prompts?
[07:12] <appledoze> how do i boot ubuntu from the grub4dos screen?
[07:12] <bernz> casdf, however, if you're reasonably sure you won't suffer abuse (e.g. unplug WAN cable to WAP if applicable), then disable all security and try to get things working that way first
[07:12] <appledoze> always takes me there when i select it in the boot select
[07:13] <Droopsta915> slowaris: Its the screen you get at login, is that what you mean?
[07:13] <kindofabuzz> what is the exact meaning of a "%U" after a command?
[07:13] <kindofabuzz> as in gedit %U
[07:14] <Tyrath> bernz: well if used ifup and ifdown, dhcpclient -r, removing problems out of /etc/network/interfaces. Not sure what else it could be
[07:14] <Tyrath> bernz: i've also tried inserting my wireless MAC address into the gnome GUI thing
[07:15] <crdlb> kindofabuzz: "A list of URLs."
[07:15] <Droopsta915> !ndiswrapper
[07:15] <crdlb> kindofabuzz: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html
[07:15] <bernz> Tyrath, when i had wifi problems on my kubuntu (this laptop) installation, i ended up having to edit config files manually and so on, and even afterward (when wifi was working), the GUI network manager wasn't "synced"
[07:15] <kindofabuzz> crdlb, thanks
[07:15] <trygg> any good rpg thats not roguelike? :D
[07:16] <bernz> Tyrath, maybe that link triggered by Droopsta915 will be of use
[07:16] <bernz> Tyrath, otherwise, i'm afraid it's 'man' time
[07:18] <bernz> (e.g. 'man interfaces')
[07:18] <casdf> bernz: im at a public university trying to connect to their wpa2 peap network, not setting up a home router
[07:19] <bernz> casdf, ahh, well it's a lot trickier when you don't control all the machines... i'm sorry, i don't know much about peap (eap)
[07:19] <slowaris> Droopsta915: i dont want to modify the screen during login but before login screen just after bios
[07:19] <circusbred> bernz: i control EVERY machine
[07:20]  * bernz yanks out his LAN cable@!#!@$NO CARRIER
[07:20] <slowaris> i have already modify my login background  image but the booting time just after the bios i must modify it
[07:21] <Droopsta915> slowaris:When you start up, pay close attention, you will get a setup option. Like F12 or something, it's quick, but if you hit it fast enough you can get into the setup menu or boot menu
[07:21] <bernz> it sounds like slowaris is maybe talking about the 'ubuntu' progress meter (which first ping-pongs, then fills up) screen
[07:22] <amarcy2> anybody good with fn key mapping?
[07:22] <slowaris> bernz yes
[07:22] <amarcy2> pm me if you know anything about fn key mapping
[07:23] <circusbred> how to the shut down key?!
[07:23] <slowaris> bernz yes that's it.how do i modify it?
[07:23] <bernz> slowaris, okay, well, at least everyone knows which screen you're talking about... not sure how to do it, myself
[07:24] <Droopsta915> slowaris:You mean the seconds you get before login?
[07:24] <wahnfrieden> hi y'all
[07:24] <CaneToad> my audio isn't working in intrepid and I think pulse has something to do with it.....  any recommendations?
[07:24] <wahnfrieden> can i listen to music on UBUNTU?
[07:25] <kingsley_> When a BIOS is configured to boot from the CD drive before the hard disk, and a 8.04.2-desktop-i386.iso CD is in the CD drive, pressing the reset button results in the message "Boot from CD", but then tries to run an old copy of windows on the hard drive. What else, if anything, should be done to boot from the CD?
[07:25] <wahnfrieden> i wanna jam out to some house
[07:25] <bernz> slowaris, i don't even know the proper name of that screen :-) i guess i'd call it the "startup" screen?
[07:25] <CaneToad> kingsley_ works for me... can you read the CD on another PC?
[07:26] <kingsley_> CaneToad: That's a good idea. I may try to boot it with qemu.
[07:26] <Droopsta915> slowaris: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst   and look for the timeout sec. It's set to 10 sec. Change the 10 to whatever and save the file.
[07:27] <wahnfrieden> how do i saved file?
[07:27] <pstickne> what is the different between the adm and admin groups?
[07:27] <pstickne> *difference
[07:28] <wahnfrieden> What is the difference between the adm and admin user groups?
[07:28] <SJ2000> Pulseaudio on Intrepid keeps throwing a "W: ltdl-bind-now.c: Failed to find original dlopen loader." error in the syslog, also after a few minutes after login the sound get's "caught" on a segment and repeats it ad infinitum. Are the two related?
[07:29] <Flannel> wahnfrieden, pstickne: admin is the group for sudo stuff. adm is for system tasks (/var/log stuff)
[07:30] <wahnfrieden> ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
[07:30] <wahnfrieden> what?
[07:30] <Flannel> wahnfrieden: What don't you understand?
[07:30] <Droopsta915> !sudo
[07:30] <nnull> !eeepc > me
[07:31] <wahnfrieden> flannel went out in the 80s
[07:32] <Droopsta915> wahnfrieden: off topic
[07:32] <pstickne> Flannel:  thanks
[07:32] <wahnfrieden>  ?
[07:32] <Droopsta915> ?
[07:33] <wahnfrieden> uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[07:33] <Flannel> wahnfrieden: Please stay on topic.
[07:33] <AETE_KRAOUD> hi all
[07:33] <Droopsta915> wahnfrieden: Think of root or superuser (sudo) as the admin
[07:34] <pstickne> (or, simply "god"; little-g though)
[07:34] <wahnfrieden> can you tell me, is there some rivalry between yall and Slackware?
[07:34] <wahnfrieden> there seems to be whenever i ask slcakwares about a question
[07:34] <bolting> ok well i update my system and still cat get all the packages to be listed in synaptic
[07:34] <bolting> what can i try now?
[07:34] <Droopsta915> wahnfrieden:!unix
[07:34] <pstickne> "requested by" :-)
[07:34] <Droopsta915> !unix
[07:34] <SJ2000> !pulseaudio > me
[07:34] <anima_> can someone help me install a .bin file?
[07:35] <Droopsta915> !Linux
[07:35] <SJ2000> !why-pulseaudio-drives-me-insane > me
[07:35] <SJ2000> Damn :P
[07:35] <Droopsta915> !Ubuntu
[07:35] <Flannel> !botabuse | Droopsta915
[07:35] <Droopsta915> ok ill stop ;)
[07:36] <anima_> I d/l'd GoogleEarth, but I have no idea what the commands are to install it.
[07:36] <bolting> any help?
[07:36] <violetdream> is there any way to get dpkg to install to another drive (folder)? I tried --root and --instaldir but I don't think I was doing it correctly
[07:36] <Flannel> anima_: medibuntu has google earth packaged, you really should use that one.
[07:36] <eitreach> I have trouble using USB in Virtualbox in Intrepid. I have followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox#USB but I am not sure I have done everything correctly. Could someone take me through ie, step by step?
[07:37] <slowaris> Droopsta915: no it's not the grub menu that i want but after that menu is what i want to load a background image. im sorry i fint it hard to describe
[07:37] <anima_> Flannel, I know you understand what you just said, but I have no idea what it means.  Can you point me to what you're referring to?
[07:37] <ramontayag> what's the best way to implement those first-time-boxes in rails? the boxes that show up the first time you go to a page, then if you close them they never show up again for that page.  these are mostly used as a tutorial for the user.
[07:37] <ramontayag> gah wrong room sorry. 2nd time today
[07:37] <Droopsta915> anima: Hope this helps you...http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/06/24/install-google-earth-on-ubuntu-804/
[07:37] <AETE_KRAOUD> i lost more than 10 hours trying to install vpython aka( visual python 3d..) but how to installed ??? i tried both from source and the repositories ... and i got confused . When i tried to to type in python interpreter import visual i got  -- > RuntimeError: Neither Numeric nor numarray could be found. BUT i am sure i have installed the numeric python module !! what to do guys ? i am exhausted  ?:(
[07:37] <Dolo> how do you pick the best linux distro to use?
[07:38] <SJ2000> Has anyone seen "Failed to find original dlopen loader." in their syslog in relation to PulseAudio lately? If so, any sound issues?
[07:38] <Flannel> anima_: Medibuntu is a third party repository, http://www.medibuntu.org/  you can either just add that repos to your sources (instructions there) so you can freely install all of the software it as to offer through package management, or just pick google earth itself to install (and download the deb, install it)
[07:38] <Flannel> Dolo: You should ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here, thanks
[07:38] <anima_> OK I'll try that, and thank you both.
[07:38] <kingsley_> CaneToad: Is it realistic to expect that a bootable CD of 8.04.2-desktop-i386.iso can be burned with the application named "k3b"?
[07:38] <AETE_KRAOUD> please how tell how to make  vpython  work ? i lost all my day in that i use 64 bit ubuntu interpid
[07:40] <Droopsta915> slowaris:I've never done that, I can't help you sorry. I'm still learning myself. The problems you run into are what make you a better Ubuntu user. read read read. ;)
[07:40] <bolting> can anyone help me, or maybe direct me to the correct place?
[07:40] <ashlessburn> what u need
[07:40] <ashlessburn> try iso kingsley
[07:41] <CaneToad> kingsley_ yeah but when you burned it, did you (1) burn the ISO as a file on the CD, or (2) burn the ISO to the CD such that the CD is identical to the contents of the ISO, ie multiple files etc
[07:41] <bolting> i am trying to get the package manager to list some packages, like kvm, but it says not found. but it was there when i was on the live cd.
[07:41] <slowaris> Droopsta915: ive changed this before but i forgot the website that i followed hehehehe
[07:41] <slowaris> damn me
[07:41] <slowaris> hehehe
[07:41] <ashlessburn> hmm use the debian based web wiur repo
[07:41] <AETE_KRAOUD> from synaptic alla the dependencies seems to be satisfied but when i tried to import vpython i get the  RuntimeError:  Numeric not found but i am pretty sure it is installed and it imports from python
[07:41] <AETE_KRAOUD> why does ubuntu claims it works
[07:42] <AETE_KRAOUD> vpython doesn't work in ubuntu 64 bit i claim
[07:42] <Droopsta915> bolting: go to system-software sources
[07:42] <AETE_KRAOUD> and please help me
[07:42] <bolting> ashlessburn: are you tellin me to use that repo or someone else?
[07:42] <bolting> Droopsta915: ok
[07:42] <ashlessburn> yea
[07:43] <ashlessburn> there is a forum for kvm and related for some odd r fineeason debian works just
[07:43] <kingsley_> CaneToad: I assume I burned the ISO as one big file, because that's how k3b has worked for me in the past. However, it does balk with this ISO about the filename being too long for a joliet file system, which is something I've never seen before.
[07:43] <Droopsta915> bolting: mow check the box above source code
[07:43] <CaneToad> kingsley_ ok you did the wrong thing
[07:43] <bolting> ok it was already
[07:43] <ashlessburn> lol k im out
[07:43] <ashlessburn> night guys
[07:44] <CaneToad> kingsley_ hangon I'll start up k3b and tell ya
[07:44] <bolting> ashlessburn: where do i find that repo
[07:44] <bolting> darn
[07:44] <Droopsta915> bolting: now go to the third party tab and check everything except the cdrom box
[07:44] <AETE_KRAOUD> does anybosy have ever tested if vpython works in ubuntu 64 bit 8.10 ? in mine it does not work!!! I am so tired lost so many hours i did everything to make it work damned and i am confused why doesn't work?
[07:44] <Flannel> !repeat | AETE_KRAOUD
[07:45] <CaneToad> kingsley_ you need to run K3B and then from the menu choose Tools/Burn CD Image, and then choose the iso file as the image to burn
[07:45] <Flannel> AETE_KRAOUD: You may have more luck in #python, or whatever other channels may be appropraite
[07:45] <bolting> there is no cdrom box, just two for conanical
[07:45] <AETE_KRAOUD> Flannel, : nice idea
[07:45] <AETE_KRAOUD> Flannel,  : but
[07:45] <SJ2000> Basically what ubottu is saying is send your message to /dev/null
[07:45] <anima_> Flannel, I now have two googleearth icons on my menu, neither of which work.  *sigh*  they released 5.0 today which I was hoping would help.
[07:46] <AETE_KRAOUD> Flannel, : i think is might be a problem of ubuntu repositories "claiming" it works but vpython does not work
[07:46] <bolting> Droopsta915: what do i do next
[07:46] <Droopsta915> bolting: ok check those and then go to the updates tab, check import security,  Recommended updates, and back-ports
[07:47] <bolting> k
[07:47] <AETE_KRAOUD> Flannel, :  ok i will try to go to the #python
[07:47] <kingsley_> CaneToad: Indeed, that's different that how I usually burn linux CDs. I usually do: run k3b -> click on "New Data CD Project" -> drag the filename down to the project area -> click on burn.
[07:48] <CaneToad> kingsley_ yup that's right....you'll never get a bootable CD unless you use this approach
[07:48] <Droopsta915> bolting: now do you see the new installs arrow on the top right?
[07:48] <bolting> i see an update icon on the taskbar ny the clock, is that it?
[07:49] <googleguo> hello
[07:49] <kingsley_> CaneToad: Do you happen to know why ubuntu requires this approach, and other linux CDs do not?
[07:49] <anima_> ok, so to remove these two failing googleearths...I do what?
[07:49] <kindofabuzz> no that's the icon that pretends it the updates, yes that's it
[07:49] <anima_> they aren't in the regular add/remove thing.
[07:49] <anima_> the synaptics thing is giving me an error.
[07:49] <CaneToad> kingsley_ have you used k3b in the past to do this, or other burning software?
[07:49] <googleguo> cls
[07:49] <kingsley_> CaneToad: I've used k3b in the past.
[07:50] <Droopsta915> bolting: yes, update your system and then check for the application you want in, the synaptic package manager or the applications add/remove . you should find what you need
[07:50] <SunnyDP> Is there a way to slipstream the latest updates in my Ubuntu 8.10 ISO's ?
[07:52] <CaneToad> kingsley_ you must be clicking the "burn the image directly" button in k3b when you drag instead of "add the file to the project", right?
[07:52] <CaneToad> that approach is ok too
[07:52] <Droopsta915> well it's been fun, hope I helped someone today. Have a good night or day whatever ;)
[07:52] <AETE_KRAOUD> Flannel, : sorry again but is it a good idea to search at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ for vpython issues?
[07:52] <SunnyDP> later Droop
[07:52] <kingsley_> CaneToad: For what it's worth, I just burned a CD as you advised.
[07:52] <bolting> Droopsta915: they are just 6 backpors listed
[07:53] <nnull> anyone tell me how many hours until the nba 2009 allstar game starts?
[07:53] <bolting> in the update thing
[07:53] <bolting> some for gimp and some for braseo
[07:54] <Droopsta915> bolting: I must run, someone will help you in here, good people hang out in this chat ;) hope you fix your prob.
[07:54] <kingsley_> CaneToad: My recollection is that that I've successfully burned data CDs several ways.
[07:54] <CaneToad> kingsley_ I hope it works for you!!
[07:54] <kindofabuzz> burning through nautilus always says it fails even though it doesn't on my system
[07:55] <kingsley_> CaneToad: I'm happy to report that doing it your way worked.
[07:55] <AETE_KRAOUD> sorry guys but when i tried to search the irc lists i get my xchat crashed in ubuntu does anybody solved that crash problem?
[07:55] <kingsley_> CaneToad: Thank you.
[07:55] <Vexer> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:55] <CaneToad> kinglsey_ no probs :)
[07:55] <yuka> what's the best way to get chrome? with wine or the chromuim package?
[07:56] <SunnyDP> yuka? absoliutely need chrome ?
[07:56] <doc`> having problem with my usb speakers, they are listed under lsusb, but not found under asoundconf list
[07:57] <yuka> SunnyDP: after 3 hours of fast typing on FF my CPU is %100
[07:57] <anima_> ok, so now I have three installations, none of which work.
[07:57] <anima_> i'm going to stop digging  the hole until someone helps me.
[07:57] <SunnyDP> yuka: weird, look into other browsers that work natively in ubuntu
[07:57] <dayo2> AETE_KRAOUD: try irssi over screen
[07:58] <yuka> SunnyDP: any suggestions?
[07:58] <SunnyDP> anima_ ? isnstalls of what ?
[07:58] <anima_> googleearth
[07:58] <SunnyDP> yuka: i use FF
[07:58] <SunnyDP> works great
[07:58] <anima_> 4.2, 4.3, and 5.0
[07:58] <SunnyDP> are you on 8.10 ?
[07:58] <redline5653> has anyone here used the net boot installers before?
[07:58] <dayo2> dayo2: AETE_KRAOUD: that's if u got access to a server. if not, then just irssi
[07:58] <kindofabuzz> anima_, type googleearth at cl what do you get?
[07:58] <yuka> SunnyDP: start typing into a textbox for a few minutes,
[07:58] <yuka> SunnyDP: and look at youre CPU
[07:58] <AETE_KRAOUD> dayo2, : hhmmm you mean i have to disconnedt first e?
[07:59] <SunnyDP> go in add/remove programs