[00:00] <jetole> three18ti: http://pastebin.com/XEwZUK74
[00:00] <three18ti> thx.
[00:00] <timetunr> the wireless adapters don't show up when running ubuntu in virtualbox :/
[00:00] <dj_segfault> NastyNaz: Ongoing, I use it to control lights, but I also have a complicated script that uses X10 to reboot the cablemodem when I lose internet.  I have a big halloween display I use it for
[00:00] <three18ti> jetole, you should use paste.ubuntu.com too many ads on pastebin.
[00:00] <jetole> three18ti: if I use aptitude, the first suggestion is it wants to keep packages as is and not install the program I asked for. The next suggestion is downgrading packages which just seems wrong
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> timetunr: the hardwareis virtualized, so it won't show as a wireless adapter
[00:01] <jetole> three18ti: oh I use adblocker so I didn't even know they were there
[00:01] <timetunr> it doesn't show up at all though
[00:01] <timetunr> how can I access it?
[00:01] <three18ti> ;) me too, until someone else told me the same.
[00:01] <jetole> three18ti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1070306/
[00:01] <wylde> timetunr: it won't. Unless you have usb support properly installed and it's a usb wireless device.
[00:01] <BluesKaj> !aptitude | jetole
[00:02] <timetunr> I have one usb wireless adapter and one pci
[00:02] <timetunr> so I should attach the usb and it will show up?
[00:02] <jetole> BluesKaj: How does multi architecture apply to this?
[00:02] <NastyNaz> dj_segfault: how does it identify individual house lights? Do they need special x10 adaptors?
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> timetunr: you will need the closed source virtualbox for raw usb access
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> timetunr: I'd ask in #vbox
[00:02] <wylde> timetunr: if you have install the vbox extension pack and enabled a usb filter in settings yes.
[00:02] <wylde> installed*
[00:03] <three18ti> jetole, did you yo do an `apt-get install -f libgtk-3-dev` or `apt-get install -f`
[00:03] <timetunr> cool thanks
[00:03] <Athleek123> wubi is downloading amd64 version of ubuntu and I am pretty sure I need i386, what do i do??
[00:03] <bz> meh, -f won't fix your dependency problem
[00:03] <dj_segfault> NastyNaz: Each wall plug has rotary switches to set a house code and a unit code.
[00:03] <jetole> three18ti: oh I did `apt-get install -f libgtk-3-dev`. should I do it without the package name?
[00:04] <jetole> bz: Any input on what will?
[00:04] <bz> jetole: you tried aptitude, right?
[00:04] <three18ti> bz, it won't?
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> three18ti: apt-get will need sufo
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> *sudo
[00:04] <wylde> jetole: just 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[00:04] <jetole> bz. aptitude first suggestion was not installing the package I want and leaving the system as is. The second suggestion was downgrading installed packages which sounds like the wrong answer to me
[00:05] <bz> jetole: you'll need to downgrade
[00:05] <Thales> Can someone suggest me an Audio Broadcaster for Ubuntu? Something like SAM Broadcaster...
[00:05] <bz> jetole: because apparently the libgtk-dev you want depends on those older packages
[00:05] <Athleek123> anybody know how to tell? ^^
[00:05] <jetole> bz: can you explain why I should downgrade?
[00:05] <jetole> er
[00:05] <bz> jetole: are you in the middle of upgrading across distros?
[00:05] <timetunr> also one more thing. is it worth looking into vmware or will closed source virtualbox suffice in terms of reliability and performance
[00:05] <jetole> bz: This was a fresh install. Reformat, new lvm2 vg's and lv's, etc etc
[00:05] <three18ti> jetole, listen to bz.
[00:06] <timetunr> I plan to be running this machine for a very long time
[00:06] <timetunr> virtual machine^
[00:06] <jetole> three18ti: will do. btw, thanks for the help so far
[00:06] <Athleek123> is there any reason why wubi is downloading the wrong version
[00:06] <bz> jetole: which release is this? lemme check through the dependencies
[00:06] <jagginess> timetunr, make yourself clear. Know the difference between vbox and vmware.. Vmware is the non-free one.
[00:06] <three18ti> jetole, he's right, -f is to 'fix broken packages', I misread your error.
[00:06] <timetunr> right
[00:07] <jetole> bz: this is 12.04 alternative however I have added some PPA's too for example one for nvidia driver, medibuntu, etc
[00:07] <Athleek123> someone help a noob out
[00:07] <jetole> three18ti: it's ok. I still appreciate the help
[00:07] <timetunr> is it worth looking into paying for vmware or is virtualbox considered good enough for a long running virtual machine
[00:07] <three18ti> timetunr, you should look into kvm as it is open source and included in the repos.
[00:07] <purpleDrank> Athleek123: it will do that
[00:07] <three18ti> timetunr, http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Main_Page
[00:07] <jetole> bz: I don't know if the other ppa's may have affected this
[00:07] <Athleek123> purpleDrank it will download amd64 version instead of i386?
[00:07] <purpleDrank> Athleek123: I have an intel p4 64bit and it downloaded the amd64 pacakge and installed fine
[00:07] <Doomhammer> what do i need to do to get the ubuntu livecd to boot into uefi mode on this macbook? doing a normal boot results in "efibootmgr" saying it cannot see efi variables, and "sudo modprobe efivars" doesn't work
[00:07] <Athleek123> purpleDrank oh so I shouldn't worry?
[00:07] <jagginess> timetunr, install the real thing
[00:08] <purpleDrank> i didnt
[00:08] <purpleDrank> ran fine
[00:08] <three18ti> jetole, no problem, didn't really do much ;)
[00:08] <Athleek123> thanks! :D
[00:08]  * purpleDrank nods.
[00:08] <three18ti> jagginess, what "the real thing"?
[00:08] <jagginess> three18ti, install ubuntu "natively"
[00:08] <bz> jetole: do you have aptitude holding any packages back? if not, then: aptitude keep-all
[00:08] <jetole> three18ti: you paid attention and offered support. That counts ;-)
[00:08] <jetole> bz: aptitude output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1070311/
[00:09] <wylde> !mac | Doomhammer
[00:09] <timetunr> yeah i would dual boot but I really need to have access to both machines at the same time
[00:09] <bz> wow, fast
[00:09] <three18ti> jagginess, ++
[00:09] <Jordan_U> Doomhammer: Why do you want to boot via EFI? It's generally recommended to boot via Apple's BIOS implementation instead.
[00:09] <jetole> bz: I ran `dpkg --get-selections | grep hold` and I didn't see anything placed on hold. Is there an alternative way to check specific to aptitude?
[00:10] <Doomhammer> Jordan_U: i'm hoping to use GRUB2 to boot ubuntu/osx, and i'm under the impression i need to boot in uefi mode for "grub2-install" to work correctly
[00:11] <bz> jetole: you could just open up aptitude's gui, hit 'g', then check if you've scheduled anything (besides libgtk-dev) to be installed or upgraded
[00:11] <bz> jetole: it doesn't seem to be the case, anyway
[00:11] <HelloWorld321> if I am following http://www.danbishop.org/2012/06/02/ubuntu-12-04-ultimate-server-guide-first-draft/3/, where does the ldap configuration file "frontend.danbishop.org.ldif" go?     in /etc/ldap/frontend.danbishop.org.ldif ?
[00:11] <jetole> bz: aptitude has a gui? how do I launch it?
[00:12] <jagginess> HelloWorld321, ldap is a professional level question.  I think nobody here uses it. (So you're much in the wrong forum for this)
[00:12] <bz> jetole: aptitude
[00:12] <bz> jetole: no args, prepend with sudo if needed
[00:12] <jetole> bz: oh wow. didn't know that was there
[00:12] <bz> jetole: anyway
[00:12] <jagginess> jetole, synaptic
[00:13] <wylde> HelloWorld321: #ubuntu-server may get more responses to that question.
[00:13] <bz> jetole: aptitude show libgtk-3-dev
[00:13] <jetole> bz: I see i386 packages to be installed
[00:13] <HelloWorld321> wylde: tx
[00:13] <bz> jetole: hitting 'q' closes windows or closes aptitude if no windows are left
[00:13] <jagginess> jetole, gui usually means "X" graphics.. yes aptitude also has an interface (but it's textual and not as easy as synaptic)
[00:14] <jetole> bz: yeah this is a 64 bit install and it has i386 packages listed as "to be installed"
[00:14] <bz> jetole: i think you're installing the wrong libgtk-3-dev, prolly one from your other non-main repos
[00:14] <jetole> jagginess: yeah I get it but I didn't know aptitude had an ncurses display
[00:14] <Thales> Plis, can someone suggest me an Audio Broadcaster for Ubuntu? Something like SAM Broadcaster...
[00:14] <bz> jetole: if you check here, http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/libgtk-3-dev you'll see that it depends on version 3.4.2-0ubuntu0.3 of git1.2-gtk-3.0
[00:14] <bz> jetole: whereas the one you're about to install depends on 3.4.1-0ubuntu1
[00:15] <jetole> bz: these i386 packages, how can I remove them from to be installed?
[00:15] <bz> jetole: yeah, just hit f10, then hit 'f'
[00:15] <jagginess> jetole, most what you see in console is ncurses.. (even if there's no textual/gui like interface)
[00:15] <bz> jetole: that's equivalent to aptitude keep-all anyway
[00:15] <jetole> bz: I'm also using wikimedia as my pkg provider. It may not have the up to date package I'm thinking
[00:16] <wylde> Thales: have you tried something like, say .... 'apt-cache search audio broadcast' ?
[00:16] <jetole> jagginess: ok. I get the point. My point is I didn't realize aptitude had that gui that I saw
[00:16] <Thales> wylde, yeap
[00:16] <bz> jetole: ye, so the quickest most hackish way i can think of is to download http://mirror.pnl.gov/ubuntu//pool/main/g/gtk+3.0/libgtk-3-dev_3.4.2-0ubuntu0.3_amd64.deb
[00:16] <jetole> then dpkg -i
[00:16] <bz> jetole: then maybe dpkg -i libgtk-3-dev_3.4.2-0ubuntu0.3_amd64.deb
[00:16] <jetole> ?
[00:16] <bz> jetole: ye, then use aptitude or apt-get to resolve your broken deps
[00:16] <jetole> bz: right. Ok. Let me see
[00:17] <jagginess> jetole, lol.. you don't get it.. When you say "graphics" you can't refer to console.. (you probably want to read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text-based_user_interface) -- acronym is TUI
[00:17] <three18ti> bz, this is where you'd use apt-get -f to install the missing dependencies right? (after the dpkg -i fails I mean)
[00:17] <jagginess> jetole, because you confused me as to what you're asking when you say "GUI". It's not text..
[00:17] <bz> three18ti: ye
[00:17] <three18ti> bz, ok, I was just a few steps ahead of myself.  thanks.,
[00:18] <bz> three18ti: :>
[00:18] <jetole> jagginess: when I was told it was a gui I assumed it was a X app he was referring to. Actually someone else said gui to me
[00:18] <jetole> jagginess: and it doesn't matter anymore anyways. We're kind of beating a dead horse here
[00:18] <jagginess> yes thats fine.. but just saying.. GUI means graphics.. it only confuses people..
[00:18] <jagginess> (and correct them)
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> bz: wget  http://mirror.pnl.gov/ubuntu//pool/main/g/gtk+3.0/libgtk-3-dev_3.4.2-0ubuntu0.3_amd64.deb; sudo dpkg -i ./libgtk-3-dev_3.4.2-0ubuntu0.3_amd64.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[00:20] <bz> ActionParsnip: thanks?
[00:20] <jagginess> jetole, well now you know.. synaptic is for gui, aptitude is in console.. not rocket science.. (people prefer synaptic than aptitude btw)
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> jagginess: aptitude has an ncurses gui, runs in terminal though..
[00:21] <zykotick9> don't use aptitude with 12.04 - it doesn't do multiarch
[00:21] <jetole> bz: yeah I just did a little research before I did the install and `apt-cache showpkg libgtk-3-dev` is showing version 3.4.1-0ubuntu1 from ubuntu.wikimedia.org. I'm honestly surprised wikimedia has a old package there. I expected better from them
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: ahhh, didn't know that (2nd new thing learned today)
[00:22] <jetole> jagginess: neat. Yeah I'm a console guy. I work with servers often anyways and I'm kind of stuck on apt-get even though I understand aptitude should be prefered but it's been hard to migrate
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: did you know in precise, the users who can use sudo are not in the 'admin' group now?
[00:22] <bz> jetole: btw, when you get aptitude to fix your dep, make sure you don't select the solution that uninstalls the libgtk-3-dev you just installed
[00:22] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: ya - sudo ;)
[00:22] <bz> jetole: that would be...ironic.
[00:22] <jagginess> jetole, in debian it is, but on ubuntu it doesnt look like aptitude is preferred over apt-get yet
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: yeah, weird huh
[00:23] <jetole> bz: I downloaded the .deb you mentioned but since I have updated my repos within the last hour and cleaned the cache and still showing an old pkg from mediawiki, I am considering changing pkg providers
[00:23] <jetole> jagginess: oh cool then
[00:23] <jagginess> jetole, you mean repositories? don't mix them with other distros
[00:23] <bz> jetole: don't need to. just install the one you downloaded; it'll supercede the one from mediawiki
[00:23] <RichTea> Arr it would appear there is just a bug with ubuntu USB boot, i tried all sort of way to make the usb boot disk, then i tried it on a diffrent usb device with a dd from the problem one
[00:23] <jetole> now aptitude shows packages to be installed that I don't want. How can I remove those?
[00:23] <jagginess> jetole, ?
[00:23] <bz> jetole: which pkgs?
[00:24] <jetole> bz: yes but I want to fix this problem in the future i.e. not have it be a re-occuring issue
[00:24] <jagginess> jetole, you mixing repos across distros? you shouldn't do that
[00:24] <bz> jetole: then don't mix and match as these other guys have been reciting
[00:24] <caravel> hi there, 10.04 on some notebook (MSI Wind U100), after connecting an external successfully (which wasn't he first time), some bug :
[00:25] <Guest20217> can anyone tell me which # i should go to for server advice?
[00:25] <jetole> bz: they are 4 packages with :i386 in the name on a 64 bit system. 3 were part of w32codecs that I installed from medibuntu. I have since purged all 4 but now it shows them to be installed again
[00:25] <RichTea> it appears that the usb boot will not work from mmc usb interface =)
[00:25] <caravel> basically, if the external screen is *not* connected, the internal screen is rotated *and* the following other bug (unrelated I assume) happens, making it impossible to restore the situation
[00:25] <RichTea> thorght i was just going mad
[00:25] <mackmoney3000> !Nick
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest20217: #ubuntu-server exists
[00:25] <jagginess> jetole, dont get confused with multiarch.. if you see i386 with your amd64 linux you'll be fine.
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest20217: or you can ask here too
[00:25] <caravel> [...] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/576311
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> hahaha
[00:25] <jetole> I am not mixing repos across distros or at least if I understand you properly I am not. mediawiki is a mirror of ubuntu but ubuntu had a outage on their servers last night so I selected a mirror
[00:25] <jagginess> jetole, you're not acquainted enough what multiarch is and is confusing to new users (that's why i mentioned synaptic)
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> caravel: tried unity2D?
[00:26] <bz> jetole: ah, so it's an official mirror?
[00:26] <jetole> jagginess: but I don't want these packages installed anymore at all anyways.
[00:26] <jetole> bz: yes
[00:26] <caravel> ActionParsnip: that's UNR, iirc
[00:26] <jagginess> jetole, apt-cache policy <packagename> also shows the repository source
[00:26] <bz> jetole: time to switch, maybe
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> caravel: no, UNR doesn't exist
[00:26] <jetole> well... I don't know what coins the term official. synaptic set it from selecting the fastest
[00:26] <jetole> bz: yes
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> caravel: Unity is the default shell in Ubuntu 12.04, you can use the 2D session and it doesn't use compiz. May help
[00:26] <jetole> bz: exactly what I meant. If the mirror has old packages I don't want this happening in the future
[00:27] <caravel> ActionParsnip: like I said, this is 10.04 still
[00:27] <jetole> and I've used anl.gov in the past
[00:27] <jetole> argonne national labs if I recall correctly
[00:27] <caravel> AFAIK, 10.04 isn't dead... yet
[00:27] <jetole> caravel: no it's not
[00:27] <jagginess> caravel, it is now. bang bang
[00:27] <cs_yng> Ubuntu 12.04 - I'm having issue with NetworkManager not starting during boot. Works find if I run "start network-manager". where is this enabled during boot?  "upstart" is a real pain
[00:27] <jetole> jagginess: lol
[00:27] <caravel> jagginess: no, it is not.
[00:27] <caravel> :)
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> caravel: tried not using compiz?
[00:28] <jetole> so...
[00:28] <caravel> anyway, that PC is 1000 miles away physically, and I won't do any such massive change over ssh
[00:28]  * jetole sets anl as the mirror, will do an update and try from apt-get again
[00:28] <caravel> hence I did stick to LTS
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> caravel: tried Precise to see if its better there, newer drivers and kernel and Xorg may help
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> caravel: 12.04 is LTS
[00:29] <caravel> ActionParsnip: you missread me I thnk :)
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> caravel: if its miles away, obviously screen updates will be slow
[00:29] <caravel> ActionParsnip: the reason why 10.04 is LTS until 2013 is precisely so that people can organize migration
[00:29] <caravel> ActionParsnip: of course, there is a user on front of the PC
[00:29] <caravel> *in front of
[00:30] <caravel> anyway
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> caravel: you never mentioned that....
[00:30] <gre_nouille> h
[00:30] <gre_nouille> i
[00:30] <gre_nouille> hi :)
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> caravel: could install LXDE, see if it's better
[00:30] <caravel> ActionParsnip: would I use X with external display over ssh ? :)
[00:31] <gre_nouille> i'm trying to set up vnc over ssh
[00:31] <gre_nouille> the ssh part is working but when i try to display the desktop it says :
[00:31] <gre_nouille> http://pastebin.com/hLrTsHJu
[00:31] <MonkeyDust> gre_nouille  your qustion being?...
[00:31] <caravel> ActionParsnip: no, I cannot do that. such solution is entirely overkill. De worked absolutely great until now. All I want here is to know if this is a known issue and restore functionality
[00:31] <gre_nouille> MonkeyDust, http://pastebin.com/hLrTsHJu
[00:31] <jetole> bz, jagginess: changing the mirror seems to have worked
[00:31] <MonkeyDust> gre_nouille  what's getpt?
[00:32] <croz> Anyone besides me have a problem with Skype for Linux when compared to the Windows version? The Windows version is so much nicer looking. Jeez.
[00:32] <bz> jetole: grats
[00:32] <jetole> I changed the mirrro, did a update and then ran apt-get install libgtk-3-dev and now it's installing
[00:32] <caravel> I don't know gnome config files, myself I am a KDE user hence am a bit lost. Where would be stored such persistent  screen rotation prefs ?
[00:32] <jetole> bz, jagginess: thanks
[00:33] <gre_nouille> MonkeyDust, it seems to be the file descriptor of a terminal
[00:33] <gre_nouille> MonkeyDust, so i cannot open a terminal in the remote server
[00:33] <dj_segfault> croz:  Are you using 4.x
[00:33] <MonkeyDust> gre_nouille  type !find getpt
[00:33] <jagginess> jetole, that's not a runtime library.. you're developing something?
[00:34] <croz> damn no
[00:34] <croz> im using <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:34] <daemon7> man i need help i uninstalled this nouveau driver and want to install propr nvidia drivers but now when i start no terminal just black screen hanging
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> caravel: could make a fresh user and log on, see if it's caused by settings.
[00:34] <gre_nouille> !find getpt
[00:34] <jetole> jagginess: yeah I'm compiling gnubiff because the latest version which exceeds the repos has a fix for gtk3 issue which causes ugly icons in the taskbar so yeah, compiling gnubiff
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> caravel: installing another DE isn't overkill at all. It tests to see if the issue is with Gnome itself, or if it is the drivers and Xorg
[00:35] <dj_segfault> croz:  A new full-featured client was released about 2 months ago that brings Linux up to par.  Check out the website
[00:35] <jetole> jagginess: I think anything that ends in -dev isn't a runtime library
[00:35] <croz> ok checking it now woot!
[00:35] <croz> thanks buddy
[00:35] <dj_segfault> croz: NP
[00:35] <caravel> ActionParsnip: welcome screen is always good. User desktop is always good *if* external is connected, rotated if not. Only since connecting this external display today...
[00:35] <gre_nouille> that doesn't help much :(
[00:35] <daemon7> or any idea how to enable write access for the root console in recovery mode
[00:36] <MonkeyDust> gre_nouille  what do you want to do with getpt?
[00:36] <caravel> ActionParsnip: it's not even an option. User won't take the change (old person). Right now the external display has to remain plugged, full stop, until I can fix the uissue
[00:36] <daemon7> every time i try and install the nvidia drivers from there it says cant mkdir read only filsystem
[00:36] <jagginess> jetole, -dev is development source files..
[00:37] <jagginess> jetole, "apt-get -f install" <enter>
[00:37] <croz> dj_segfault: I installed it. It's a lot better than the one I had, but the Windows version is still much prettier.
[00:37] <linuxjones> why is it when i reboot none of my network interfaces show up untill i plug my phone in and turn usb teathering on? thats how i installed the system but will it stay like that or does anyone know how to fix it?
[00:37] <jagginess> jetole, did you really mix repos? y/n .. sounds like you're doing things you dont know what you're doing
[00:37] <jetole> jagginess: why would I use -f now?
[00:37] <jetole> jagginess: no
[00:38] <caravel> ActionParsnip: since welcome screen is always fine still, I can't imagine it would be X. Could it be ?
[00:38] <jetole> jagginess: I think you misunderstood some stuff then
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> caravel: try a new user, it may be ok with default gnome configs. Just to test
[00:38] <jetole> no I did not mix repos
[00:38] <jagginess> jetole, you can use -f anytime.. it tries to look for unfinished installs
[00:38] <ClientAlive> can someone please help me figure this out...
[00:38] <jetole> well, I didn't use a repo from from different ubuntu versions
[00:38] <gre_nouille> MonkeyDust, no idea
[00:38] <caravel> ActionParsnip: well, won't be fun remote but will do. Next, what if indeed new user profile is good ?
[00:38] <jetole> I changed my repo to an official mirror is all
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> caravel: sure, sudo adduser testname
[00:39] <MonkeyDust> gre_nouille  what were you doing, when this getpt error occured?
[00:39] <jetole> jagginess: and that change was done through synaptic finding the fastest repo for my locale
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> caravel: then just have him/her log in as the new user.
[00:39] <jagginess> jetole, -dev is not for runtime.. you didnt know this.. That's why i say you dont know what youre doing by simply installing it
[00:39] <caravel> ActionParsnip: I know :) Testing won't be fun
[00:39] <caravel> ActionParsnip: and migrate the whole profile ?
[00:39] <jetole> jagginess: yes I did know that. I explained why I needed it and then I told you I don't think any -dev pkg is ever for runtime
[00:39] <jetole> jagginess: I think you're a little confused here
[00:39] <jagginess> jetole, i'm asking what you need it for
[00:39] <jetole> to compile gnubiff
[00:40] <jetole> I mentioned that already
[00:40] <ClientAlive> I've been trying to figure out how to get spice working in kvm (ubuntu 12.04 guest). I found out about 2 packages (spice-vdagent and qemu-kvm-spice) and a third (qemu-linaro) which may include those first two. I'm not certain if this is what I'm looking for though. I don't want to break my system.
[00:40]  * caravel us looking for assistance in fixing a hole in the roof, not buliding a new house next to the first one
[00:40] <jagginess> jetole, apt-get install <random package> doesnt fix things necessarily..
[00:40] <jetole> jagginess: that's why I don't install random packages
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> caravel: its only to test, nothing more. Can you quit the theatrics please
[00:40] <gre_nouille> MonkeyDust, xvncviewer hostname:2
[00:40] <caravel> :=)
[00:40] <jetole> I mentioned I needed the -dev package to compile a program
[00:40] <jagginess> jetole, i gave you the command to check repository source for a package (see above)
[00:40] <MonkeyDust> gre_nouille  so a remote connection, right?
[00:41] <caravel> ActionParsnip: I'm asking, what would be next step ? I cannot do it right now, hence asking for next step
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> caravel: not sure, that's what I'd do
[00:41] <caravel> if indeed, as I expect, new profile is fine
[00:41] <gre_nouille> MonkeyDust, yes
[00:42] <jetole> jagginess: yes however I already resolved which mirror was providing the package and verified that the mirror was not up to date so I resolved the issue by changing my mirror and doing an update then installing the proper package which I have a legitimate requirement for needing it and it's now installed and everything seems to be working. my problems are resolved and I don't understand where you're going with this conversation
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> caravel: then you will need to start removing configs from the standing profile so that default ones can be generated at login
[00:42] <caravel> ActionParsnip: isn't there precise setting for these anywhere ?
[00:42]  * chalcedony smiles
[00:42] <MonkeyDust> gre_nouille what version are you running? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man3/getpt.3.html
[00:42] <chalcedony> good to see you ActionParsnip :))
[00:43] <jetole> jagginess: hence I think you may be a little confused at the moment. You have been helpful but I'm all set now. I was able to install the package I required and I require the package to compile a program
[00:43] <caravel> ActionParsnip: it just look like a basic geometry issue, badly remembered
[00:43] <jetole> jagginess: cool?
[00:43] <jagginess> jetole, you should file a bug to report the improper working mirror that's what you should do actually..
[00:43] <chalcedony> my friend has an IBM thinkpad t40 1500MHZ - with lubuntu - but he can't disable mouse gestures on it, is there some way to do it?
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> caravel: they are stored in the hidden folders in $HOME, it will take a long time to work out what is going on, better just to remove some then reboot, see if it's ok then you have isolated the problem folders
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> caravel: you may be able to use xrandr to set geometry
[00:44] <gre_nouille> MonkeyDust, the server is ubuntu 12.04
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> caravel: remember to run:  export DISPLAY 0.0
[00:45] <jetole> jagginess: I could. where do I file one? I switched to the mirror last night because ubuntu's official repos had outages. I was getting 404's on "Package" files when I did a update and when I tested it from a browser I found it was bouncing from 403 forbidden to 404 to 403 back and forth
[00:45] <caravel> ActionParsnip: :D that's right, xrandr is the tool to define. The bit I'm asking, I assume, is indeed under the home folder, within the gconf galaxy. My question is where should that be. I don't know is a good answer
[00:45] <caravel> :)
[00:45] <MonkeyDust> gre_nouille  is the page I gave you useful?
[00:45] <caravel> anyway, thanks ActionParsnip !
[00:45] <linuxjones> i installed ubuntu server 12.04 today via a usb stick and my cell phone usb teathered for the internet connection, everything went alright except now when i reboot, i have to attach my cell phone and turn on teathering before any of my network interfaces will show up, any idea as to how to fix this? any help would be great
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> caravel: not something I've had to mess with. I buy nvidia which has a nice gui app.
[00:47] <jagginess> jetole, making a ppa account is free https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[00:47] <jetole> is jagginess a bot?
[00:47] <jetole> bz? Is jaggines a bot?
[00:48] <bz> jetole: no idea
[00:48] <jagginess> jetole, you asked me where.. The 'a team' link provides you to whom you can report a problem..
[00:48] <Pinkamena_D> hi for a ninth time. can anyone help me through using iptables to run a process on another interface
[00:48] <jagginess> !ppa
[00:48] <jetole> jagginess: thanks for all of your help. bye.
[00:49] <Pinkamena_D> i have tried online tutorials for they were not specifically for what i was doing and it usually meant all the interfaces dies
[00:49] <Pinkamena_D> died*
[00:49] <Pinkamena_D> (no ssh)
[00:49] <chalcedony> i'm trying to help my friend who is sick and having problems, he has an IBM thinkpad t40 1500MHZ - with lubuntu - but how can we disable mouse gestures on it?
[00:50] <chalcedony> he's even tried putting tape on the sensor
[00:50] <bz> chalcedony: mouse gestures?
[00:50] <bz> chalcedony: you mean the touchpad?
[00:50] <chalcedony> bz, let me ask him
[00:52] <gre_nouille> MonkeyDust, no sorry :(
[00:52] <caravel> yeah. I am a nVidia User too, unfortunately. I've written extended reports about its external monitor handling and overlay mess with X, scripted stuff to monitor it closely its temperatures and VRAM. I know nVidia enough to call it noVideo and recommend absolutely NOT to use it under GNU/Linux :) But anyway, nice GUI is your freedom too. Good night ActionParsnip !
[00:52] <chalcedony> bz, he said: "i wanna disable the thing from seeing my hand movement thru the sensor on the latop"
[00:52] <gre_nouille> MonkeyDust, actually it's useful to understand the error
[00:52] <gre_nouille> MonkeyDust, but i don't know how to correct it
[00:52] <chalcedony> bz "its able to see thru 2 layers of adhesive tape so its a strong sensor"
[00:52] <jetole> bz: aptitude is showing the following packages as "Packages to be installed": w32codecs, gcc-4.6-base:i386, libc6:i386 and libgcc1:i386. The three i386 packages were dependencies of w32codecs however I removed all 4 using `apt-get purge <pkg>`. Can you tell me what it means that they are they, why they would be there and how I can remove them?
[00:52] <chalcedony> i bet he means touchpad
[00:53] <jetole> bz: please
[00:53] <chalcedony> bz, Ha! "its a light right beside the battery charging light, to the left"
[00:53] <MonkeyDust> gre_nouille  if you know how to search something on the internet, look for 'getpt errors' or so
[00:53] <jagginess> jetole, it's apt-get --purge remove <package>
[00:53] <OerHeks> jetole, aptitude is depreciated, it cannot handle multi-arch very well
[00:54] <OerHeks> !aptitude
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> caravel: in 11 years of Linux use, never had an issue
[00:54] <jetole> jagginess: `apt-get purge <pkg>` works as well
[00:54] <jagginess> OerHeks, oh really :) .. I never use aptitude baby! :))
[00:54] <jagginess> hehe
[00:54] <jetole> OerHeks: so I have heard and I seldom use it. Should I ignore this?
[00:54] <caravel> ActionParsnip: very lucky, given the amount of bz reports everywhere, you should testify :)
[00:54] <cs_yng> how to debug/trace "upstart"  boot hangs with "waiting for network config", eventually finishes w/out networking. found this to be because NetworkManager is *not* starting.  Trying to understand/fix "upstart" but documentation is lacking. i've added "—verbose" to the boot cmdline and I see more "init:" messages in /var/log/kern.log, but how/why NetworkManager should start is not clear.   bueller?
[00:54] <bz> jetole: means that aptitude still thinks they're to be installed
[00:54] <bz> jetole: aptitude => forget all
[00:55] <jetole> bz: so do I just... oh
[00:55]  * jetole looks
[00:55] <bz> i don't care, i'm still free, you can't take my aptitude from me
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> caravel: I just let people shout, doesn't affect me
[00:55] <MonkeyDust> cs_yng  did you read this http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[00:56] <caravel> sorry bz, didn't mean to highlight your nick, but with such a nick on FLOSS chans you're looking for troubles :)
[00:56] <Saiki> I neeed a good comand-line debugger. anyone know of one in the distro?
[00:56] <bz> chalcedony: what kind of sensor are we talking about?
[00:56] <bz> chalcedony: nsa monitoring device?
[00:56]  * jetole shrugs. bz I don't really use aptitude though I just heard tonight it's unreliable on multi-arch. I'm ok no longer using it but always worried when I see things "pending" or errors even in a command I don't use or seldom use
[00:56] <jagginess> Saiki, #bash (There's a bash debugger i heard but the bash people may say something better)
[00:56] <bz> chalcedony: i have a thinkpad t43, and i don't see any sensors near the leds
[00:57] <jagginess> jetole, seems like you didnt fix your problem. You really should back up what you have before losing anything important....
[00:57] <OerHeks> jetoile just run in terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade and see if the problem comes back
[00:57] <chalcedony> bz,  his is a t40 i'm trying to narrow his definition
[00:57] <jetole> jagginess: I did fix my problem. This is another one.
[00:58] <jetole> bz: sorry, is "forget all" a option in the aptitude gui or... I don't understand
[00:58] <bz> jetole: aptitude forget-new
[00:59] <jagginess> jetole, make sure you didnt set any packages on hold, (you'll have to 'unhold' them with some command)
[00:59] <jetole> bz: oh. thanks
[00:59] <bz> jetole: regardless, this is only an issue if you use aptitude
[00:59] <bz> jetole: because it keeps its own internal list of packages to be installed or removed
[00:59] <jetole> bz: yeah and I really don't but I don't like leaving things lingering. I only tried aptitude earlier to see if it offered a solution for the dependencies
[01:00] <bz> jetole: ocd is good
[01:00] <jetole> bz: you just hit the nail on the head
[01:01] <jetole> forget-new didn't do it but maybe this is related to the multi-arch bug I heard about. Is there a way to reset the aptitude internal db to "factory defaults" as if I have never used aptitude?
[01:01] <jetole> @ bz
[01:01] <jetole> bz: btw, at OCD, yes you hit the nail on the head. spot on
[01:01] <jagginess> apt-get --purge remove aptitude ?
[01:02] <bz> jetole: um, you ran forget-new as root, right?
[01:02] <zykotick9> jagginess: fyi "apt-get purge foo" is fine
[01:02] <jetole> bz: yes
[01:04] <jetole> jagginess: according to the apt-get man page, `apt-get remove --purge` is running `apt-get purge` instead of `apt-get remove`. "remove --purge is equivalent to the purge command"
[01:04] <bz> jetole: are you able to paste something? maybe i'm understanding your problem wrong.
[01:05] <jetole> jagginess: I know older ubuntu, pre 10.04 didn't have a purge command and you had to use "remove --purge" but you can save yourself some typing now by just using `apt-get purge`
[01:05] <jagginess> jetole, dunno i use other distros..
[01:06] <jetole> bz: well it seems hard to copy and paste from inside the aptitude gui but I used the "g" command you mentioned when aptitude started and it lists those 4 packages as "Packages to be installed"
[01:06] <jagginess> jetole, do you know what it means something is deprecated?
[01:06] <jetole> if anyone knows where I can post random pics on the net I can take a screen shot of it pretty quickly
[01:06] <jagginess> OerHeks already said aptitude is deprecated
[01:06] <jetole> jagginess: old and planned to be removed
[01:07] <jagginess> (close but not true.. it means you should avoid it)
[01:07] <chalcedony> bz i found its manual but still guessing about what sensor he's talking about:http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/detail.page?LegacyDocID=MIGR-46464
[01:08] <jetole> jagginess: actually we're both right. An official deffinition is "past participle, past tense of dep·re·cate. verb: Express disapproval of.
[01:08] <bz> jetole: then select each of them and hit "-"
[01:08] <jetole> bz: ok. Let me see
[01:08] <ClientAlive> anyone?
[01:09] <ClientAlive> getting spice going on kvm??
[01:09] <chalcedony> bz, he says give up
[01:09] <jagginess> jetole, deprecated means avoid in simple sense. So if i were you I'd avoid anything deprecated rather than try to still use it.
[01:09] <jetole> bz: that did the trick.  I installed, and it went perfectly, then loaded the OS. Then i turned off the computer. Turned it on later, and, after the post, I get a black screen, with a blinking cursor. I can still load it through the Live cd, but, without it, i just get the cursor
[01:11] <jetole> bz: Is there any way to set aptitude back to a "factory reset" so it's like I've never used it? You mentioned it's internal db that is different from what the rest of the system uses
[01:12] <bz> jetole: uninstall it
[01:12] <jetole> bz: and that's safe?
[01:12] <bz> jetole: yes
[01:12] <jetole> MissVera: that happened to me yesterday. I restarted the computer and it ran fine
[01:12] <jetole> MissVera: if it's re-occurring though then I don't know what the problem is
[01:12] <MissVera> jetole, I've restarted 9001 times. No luck
[01:13] <jetole> MissVera: you should have stopped after 3 or 4. lol
[01:13] <jetole> MissVera: kidding aside though, I don't know what to suggest on that one
[01:13] <MissVera> jetole, I only exaggerated a little :x
[01:14] <jetole> bz: tasksel goes with it... then again, I'm doing a purge and can then re-install it which should act like a fresh install after
[01:14] <jetole> I want to keep it but just reset it so that seems fine
[01:15] <jetole> done and done. Everything seems back to normality again. bz, again, thank you for the help
[01:16] <jetole> bz: you didn't cure my OCD but you helped me cope with it ;-)
[01:16] <n1ckn4me09876543> can anybody help me?  I have 2 monitor, I'd like to make 1st (main one)  landscape while the 2nd one as portrait view, how do I do it? i've look in Nvidia x Server  settings but couldn't find it. Do you know any program that can help me achieve this or command line
[01:16] <bz> jetole: anytime
[01:17] <jetole> :-)
[01:20] <gr33n7007h> n1ckn4me09876543, xrandr --orientation
[01:22] <n1ckn4me09876543> gr33n7007h: thnx
[01:23] <gr33n7007h> np
[01:42] <bestdnd> i want to back up a folder using cp command on console, and have the date appended to the target folder's name
[01:42] <bestdnd> how can i do that?
[01:43] <kristenB> I'm trying to make a file executable. So I write chmod 700 file. But file still stays only -rw-------. How can that be ?
[01:43] <kristenB> I am the owner of the file
[01:43] <wylde> kristenB: chmod +x
[01:44] <kristenB> same
[01:44] <kristenB> still remains rw
[01:45] <kristenB> adding sudo chmod 700 doesn't change the problem
[01:45] <kristenB> if I try with the nautilus interface, it doesn't work either. I try to select 'allow executing as a program' and it gets selected for 100ms or so and gets unselected automatically right away.
[01:45] <wylde> have you tried executing the file after doing 'chmod +x filename'?
[01:46] <kristenB> executing as in ./file .
[01:46] <kristenB> executing as in ./file  ?
[01:46] <kristenB> bash: ./file: Permission denied
[01:46] <wylde> hmm
[01:46] <psusi> kristenB, is this file on a fat or ntfs drive or something?
[01:47] <kristenB> and if I double click it with nautilus, it says There is no application installed for executable files. Do you want to search for an application to open this file?
[01:47] <escott> kristenB, what filesystem is it on
[01:47] <kristenB> no it's not fat or ntfs, it's on /
[01:47] <kristenB> ext4
[01:47] <glitsj16> kristenB: hi again .. found something that might be of interest (this time): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/748516
[01:47] <CIDR> Hrmm after a clean install, when I goto boot up it just sits at a pink/purple screen.  If I ctrl+alt+delete the next time it boots it goes to the grubs creen, then I hit enter and it boots.  But I have to boot once, then ctrl+alt+delete to get it to boot.  any ideas?
[01:47] <ardeay> its not fat!
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> kristenB: is the file on an NTFS partition?
[01:47] <kristenB> ActionParsnip: no
[01:47] <psusi> kristenB, what's the full path?
[01:48] <kristenB> the full path of the file ?
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> kristenB: are you the owner of the file?
[01:48] <escott> bestdnd, rsync is a better tool for that
[01:48] <psusi> kristenB, yes
[01:48] <kristenB> ActionParsnip: yes
[01:48] <kristenB> psusi: /home/kristen/Download/eclipse/eclipse
[01:48] <kristenB> psusi: /home/kristen/Downloads/eclipse/eclipse
[01:48] <endra> Hello
[01:49] <psusi> kristenB, hrm... odd... and if you run `mount` /home isn't mounted somewhere else?
[01:49] <escott> bestdnd, in a script "date=`date +%Y%m%d`" then later rsync -axP --exclude-from=exclude.dirs --link-dest=../current/ $folder $backuppath/$date; finally ln -s $backuppath/current
[01:49] <escott> bestdnd, in a script "date=`date +%Y%m%d`" then later rsync -axP --exclude-from=exclude.dirs --link-dest=../current/ $folder $backuppath/$date; finally ln -s $backuppath/$date $backuppath/current
[01:49] <kristenB> psusi: come again ?
[01:50] <psusi> kristenB, type "mount" in the terminal and make sure some other partition is not mounted in /home
[01:50] <psusi> kristenB, i.e. you are sure this is on the / filesystem?
[01:50] <CMO> hi all am asking u for some nb help am using a dns software called dnsmasq and am trying to use it as dynamic dns server for my router such as dyndns and i am a lan user when i set the settings in router it works on my pc but does not work on others can anybody help me ??
[01:50] <endra> I get this after aptitude dist-upgrade on 12.04 when trying to reboot: http://pastebin.com/WJ6TRrHJ - is this common?
[01:51] <Corey> CMO: Are you setting the router to pass out that DNS server to clients via DHCP?  IF so, you may have to renew and release their leases.
[01:51] <CMO> one minute al check
[01:51] <CMO> no idea am using Thomson TG789vn
[01:52] <kristenB> psusi: oh maybe that's it. Downloads is actually a link to another drive, which might be in ntfs since it was used by windows previously
[01:52] <psusi> kristenB, bingo
[01:52] <CMO> am trying to use it as dyndns server
[01:52] <kristenB> psusi: how can I check what's the file system of a mount partition ?
[01:53] <CMO> is called Dynamic DNS Service
[01:53] <ardeay> typically, if its not fat, i'll mount its partition
[01:53] <psusi> kristenB, df -T
[01:54] <escott> CMO, im confused. what does dyndns have to do with dnsmasq?
[01:54] <CMO> Dynamic DNS can be used to point a fixed host name (e.g host.a-domain.com) to the public (or WAN) IP address assigned by your Internet Service Provider (typically a dynamic IP address). This allows servers located on your Local Network (configured using Game & Application Sharing) to be accessible using this alias rather than the IP address assigned by your Internet Service Provider.
[01:54] <wylde> CMO: so what you're saying is, you're trying to provide dyndns to other people/computers on the internet through your router?
[01:54] <kristenB> the type is fuseblk. I don't know that. Is it a file system ?
[01:54] <CMO> am actully trying to set a dns server same as dyndns
[01:54] <escott> kristenB, "user space filesystem driver" ie most likely NTFS
[01:54] <psusi> kristenB, that's typically what ntfs shows up as
[01:55] <CMO> ive set Dynamic DNS service:	custom
[01:55] <sparky_> Can someone help? Whenever I download something and try and open it, it opens default with the Archive Manager, and I always get an error similar to this: http://pastebin.com/Jq4Z54cr
[01:56] <kristenB> ok. So is it possible to change the filesystem without losing what's in the previous one ?
[01:56] <escott> CMO, "a dns server same as dyndns" what does that mean?
[01:57] <CMO> am trying to control the dns in the local area network to be able to control the network requests
[01:57] <escott> sparky_, it is assuming it is a self-extracting exe, but its not. so maybe install wine
[01:57] <CMO> without any spoofing
[01:57] <sparky_> Wine? ok
[01:57] <escott> CMO, what network's requests
[01:57] <escott> !info wine | sparky_
[01:57] <CMO> http network requests
[01:57] <kristenB> ok, I moved everything that was in the drive. There was not much. How can I change the filesystem to ext4 ?
[01:58] <escott> kristenB, you would have to copy all the data to a new location and reformat
[01:58] <CMO> when pc connects to a website it asks the dns server the ip of the requested server
[01:58] <kristenB> escott: the copy is done
[01:58] <kristenB> escott: now how to reformat
[01:58] <escott> kristenB, then gparted will provide a nice gui and let you reformat
[01:59] <kristenB> I don't have gparted. Do you know how to do it with parted ?
[01:59] <escott> CMO, yes. all you are describing is running a DNS on your LAN. is that all you want?
[01:59] <PAPI> Hello
[01:59] <anonymous_> ??
[02:00] <anonymous_> ??
[02:00] <PAPI> Can anybody tellme how to strech my wallpaper to my resolution settings?
[02:00] <psusi> kristenB, why not just install gparted?
[02:01] <escott> kristenB, sure. just change the partition label and type. im not sure if parted cli will do the formatting for you. if it doesnt then you would need to mkfs.ext4 /dev/whatever
[02:01] <CMO> yepp it works and i went in to router control panel and set the dynamic dns server to my ip so when i requst eg. www.msn.com i get redirected to my hostname that is running a webserver but the problem is it only works on my machine and not others in lan
[02:02] <CMO> and it gives me the message IP address:	<IP_ADDRESS> but the Hostname:	<IP_ADDRESS> (Update needed)
[02:02] <escott> CMO, you keep saying dynamic. and its not dynamic. this is a normal DNS you are describing. the other members of the LAN are not using that DNS they are using the DNS as proscribed by DHCP coming from your router. you need to make your router report the ip of your computer as the DNS or manually configure those machines to use that DNS
[02:03] <CMO> this is a dum question mate but whats the diffrense between dynamic and default dns server
[02:03] <CMO> and could i set up an dynamic dns server
[02:05] <escott> CMO, dyndns is a service that attaches dns entries to computers that migrate. every time you connect you might get a different ip, but you send a message to then dyndns service provider and they update their entries so that your symbolic name whatever.dyndns.com points to your most recent location
[02:05] <bazhang> CMO, thats not really an ubuntu question, try ##networking
[02:06] <gr33n7007h> well explained escott
[02:06] <CMO> ok ill try to contact them bazhang mate but one last question to escott can i setup a dns server same as dyndns and if so does it exist any programs for linux based operating system
[02:07] <escott> CMO, why do you want to run a dyndns server?
[02:08] <wylde> CMO: it sounds like you  want a proxy not dns anyway. You might possibly consider understanding exactly what it is you're asking for rather then dimply confusing the  people trying to help you.
[02:08] <wylde> simply*
[02:10] <PAPI> anybody knows how to adjust the wallpaper to my monitor resolution?
[02:10] <endra> How can I recover from this: http://pastebin.com/WJ6TRrHJ
[02:11] <CMO> escott i wish to run it so i can control the dns replys in lan i would like to use a proxy server but i cant redirect any connection throw it without going to all the pc and configurate them but the router support dynamic dns sorry for all the confusion people am gonne turn to network channel but it was really hard to explain
[02:11] <escott> endra, can you run "cat /proc/cmdline" (that may not work in busybox but worth a try) and note the UUID
[02:11] <escott> endra, then boot the livecd and run "sudo blkid" and make sure it matches
[02:11] <kristenB> I can't unmount the partition I'd like to format because it says 'Cannot unmount because file system on device is busy'. What should I do ?
[02:11] <CMO> kristenB try umount with force
[02:12] <kristenB> CMO: how
[02:12] <CMO> one minute all send a link to a picture
[02:12] <escott> kristenB, how have you tried to unmount?
[02:12] <kristenB> right click and unmount :)
[02:12] <endra> escott: problem is this is occurring on rackspacecloud so I cannot boot the live cd.
[02:12] <escott> CMO, is this like a coffeeshop where you dont want people to get online without paying you?
[02:13] <escott> endra, well somebody from rackspace is going to have to work on it
[02:13] <endra> escott: I have access to console so perhaps I can try to chroot
[02:13] <CMO> http://tournasdimitrios1.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/dynamic-dns.jpg
[02:14] <escott> endra, but if xvda1 isn't there for some reason...
[02:14] <endra> escott: it is there. I can mount it
[02:14] <CMO> escott exactly but am trying to do this throw dynamic settings in router
[02:15] <escott> endra, what is /proc/cmdline
[02:15] <wylde> CMO: what you are looking at is for using your router to update it's WAN ip address with a dynamic DNS service. That has nothing at all to do with LAN DNS.
[02:16] <escott> CMO, that dyndns is as i explained earlier. its unrelated to dnsmasq. it allows you to establish a dns entry for your unfixed residential address
[02:16] <escott> kristenB, try "udisks --unmount /media/whatever"
[02:16] <endra> escott: root=UUID=/dev/xvda1 ro quiet splash
[02:17] <psusi> kristenB, figure out what is still using files on that drive and shut it down
[02:17] <CIDR> Hrmm after a clean install, when I goto boot up it just sits at a pink/purple screen.  If I ctrl+alt+delete the next time it boots it goes to the grubs creen, then I hit enter and it boots.  But I have to boot once, then ctrl+alt+delete to get it to boot.  any ideas?
[02:17] <endra> escott: let me get a clean boot and give you that output.
[02:17] <psusi> kristenB, the program `lsof` can be helpful for this
[02:17] <escott> endra, i think that might be why. it should be root=/dev/xvda1 not root=UUID=...
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> wylde: i've been telling him/her this for ages
[02:17] <escott> endra, at least i would think
[02:17] <endra> escott: how do I change that value?
[02:17] <wylde> ActionParsnip: yeah, I saw earlier. I was mostly lurking
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: ou don't need a dns server to translate your WAN IP to a name, you just need a small client app to upgrade your IP incase it changes via DHCP from your ISP
[02:18] <Grant_P> Yep its 100% the new kernel -26 has broken sound for me on Precise. Rolling back to -25 fixes the issue. Shutting down pulseaudio processes and rm -rf pulse configuration in home dir, does not fix problem.
[02:18] <CIDR> huh?
[02:18] <CMO> aha so cant i use a server to update it's wan's dns settings
[02:18] <escott> endra, if you can get to the grub boot menu you could edit the boot entry. alternately you could chroot in and modify /etc/default/grub or directly modify /boot/grub/grub.cfg only changing /etc/default/grub and running update-grub would be permanent
[02:18] <BlueEagle> !bugs | Grant_P
[02:18] <wylde> ActionParsnip: and you're a better man than I, I don't think I could have had anywhere near your patience with that other fellow you were "trying" to help.
[02:19] <psusi> escott, no, filesystems are located by UUID so that it doesn't matter if their device name changes between reboots
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: the ONLY time you need a DNS service is if you want to make names translate to something else on the LAN or redirect a name to a different IP, it is a feature in home grade routers so is rarely needed in home situations
[02:19] <escott> psusi, but his boot entry specifies UUID= and then gives a dev entry
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> wylde: I have a lot of time, work is dead
[02:19] <CMO> i probebly need to research some more thanks for all help u've been the BEST
[02:20] <wylde> :)
[02:20] <CMO> ActionParsnip thats exactly what i want mate
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> CMO: if you want easy wan access to your network, get a no-ip account then install the noip2 package and it will update the ip regularly
[02:20] <psusi> escott, ohh, yea... he must have goofed it up
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> CMO: you can then forget your own ip and use the name
[02:21] <escott> endra, you would be better off to use a UUID if you have it. and "sudo blkid" will tell you what that is, but to boot for now it should be sufficient to remove the UUID=
[02:21] <psusi> endra, did you directly edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg?  you shouldn't do that
[02:21] <wylde> CMO:  IF you're wanting to filter or redirect traffic leaving your network you need a proxy.
[02:21] <endra> escott: this all happened after the latest updates to the kernel/grub. Anyone else experiencing these?
[02:21] <CMO> the only thing am trying to do is redirect all the website request's to my server that am running on my pc without have to run any spoofing software
[02:22] <endra> psusi: no. I did update-grub but it cannot update because it is mounted as readonly
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> CMO: so like a [roxy for web access
[02:22] <escott> endra, then mount -o remount,rw .
[02:22] <escott> endra, then mount -o remount,rw /
[02:22] <psusi> endra, and why is it mounted read only?
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> CMO: and cache the data, speed up the web
[02:22] <wylde> CMO: I see no real reason to do that that isn't related to some shady activity
[02:22] <Grant_P> BlueEagle: ubottu: Good point, thanks.
[02:22] <ssp_> (noob) i am trying to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 - using sudo do-release-upgrade. While upgrading, it asked me whether I wanted to keep or upgrade the existing version. I chose to  display the differences. Now I cannot get out of this screen with the differences. How can I get out of this without aborting the installation?
[02:22] <CMO> exactly ActionParsnip
[02:23] <BlueEagle> ssp_: The Q-button iirc
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> CMO: thats NOTHING to do with DNS.
[02:23] <CMO> well am just trying to charge people for using my network
[02:23] <endra> escott, psusi: I don't know why it's mounted read-only. I tried mount -o remount,rw / but it gave me some sort of error that I forgot now.
[02:23] <BlueEagle> ssp_: That or the escape key.
[02:23] <ssp_> BlueEagle, thanks a lot!
[02:23] <psusi> ssp_, 10.10 has reached end of life, you shouldn't even be able to upgrade to it at this point
[02:23] <escott> endra, then fsck it
[02:23] <kristenB> I'm trying to copy a file to my newly created partition, but it says permission denied
[02:24] <ssp_> :-)
[02:24] <rypervenche> fsck ya!
[02:24] <CMO> so do i setup a proxy server then how do i redirect all lan users to this proxy
[02:24] <psusi> ssp_, you should be upgrading to 12.04
[02:24] <escott> kristenB, since it is ext4 you need to change the permissions on the mountpoint or create a folder and give your user ownership
[02:24] <kristenB> escott: how do I do that ?
[02:24] <ssp_> psusi - I am trying to do that. However, it seems that I need to upgrade to 10.10, then to 11.xx and then to 12.04?
[02:24] <escott> kristenB, sudo chown username:username /media/whatever
[02:25] <psusi> ssp_, nope, you can upgrade straight from one lts ( 10.04 ) to the next ( 12.04 )
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> CMO: you want a caching proxy server like squid or polipo
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> CMO: you can log accesses and such and then direct all the web traffic from the nodes to that system#
[02:26] <ssp_> psusi, I did this so far: (1) sudo apt-get install update-manager-core (2) Edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal (3) sudo do-release-upgrade
[02:26] <BlueEagle> CMO: Just to make sure; You have a box that sits between the internet and a bunch of clients and those clients do receive internet connection from this machine. You want any and all web requests to go trough this machine to access the webserver on this machine.
[02:26] <ssp_> Am I doing this right? Right now it is step 3
[02:26] <psusi> ssp_, doing all 4 upgrades, one after the other, would take FOREVER.   You would be better off just reinstalling from scratch with12.04
[02:26] <kristenB> escott: ok it's working now. Why is there a lost+found folder there ?
[02:26] <ssp_> Is there a way to do that now, psusi? I am doing the do-release-upgrade now
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> kristenB: all partitions have that
[02:27] <escott> kristenB, every ext partition has a lost+found. in case of corruption file fragments will end up there
[02:27] <psusi> kristenB, because all ext[234] filesystems have that in their root
[02:27] <kristenB> ok thanks :)
[02:27] <psusi> ssp_, probably not
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> ssp_: I'd clean install, you will download a lot less data and it will give you a cleaner OS
[02:27] <Lymphocyte> How do you hide a folder?
[02:27] <CMO> so should i be like a gateway connected to the router which will offer the clients wireless network and then get redirected to me?
[02:28] <wylde> Lymphocyte:  start it's name with a .
[02:28] <escott> !crosspost | Lymphocyte
[02:28] <ssp_> AcidRain2012, psusi, I have a lot of data on this machine. Won't I lose it if I do a clean install?
[02:28] <Lymphocyte> sorry
[02:28] <BlueEagle> CMO: Oh... Wireless. That will be a bit more tricky. Is OpenWRT (or any derivates) an alternative?
[02:29] <Lymphocyte> wylde: thanks have a good night!
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> CMO: yes, you push all data via the proxy then to the router
[02:29] <CIDR> Hrmm after a clean install, when I goto boot up it just sits at a pink/purple screen.  If I ctrl+alt+delete the next time it boots it goes to the grubs creen, then I hit enter and it boots.  But I have to boot once, then ctrl+alt+delete to get it to boot.  any ideas?
[02:29] <psusi> ssp_, if you do a clean install, choose manual partitioning, and make sure NOT to check the format box and your data will be left alone... just the OS replaced
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: what video chip do you use?
[02:30] <escott> CIDR, if you hit the up arrow does it say anything useful
[02:30] <CMO> thanks all am going to search google a bit when i find the solution i will send it here THANKS SO MUTCH ALL
[02:30] <CIDR> escott no?
[02:30] <psusi> ssp_, though of course, you should *always* have your data backed up, especially before doing something like upgrading the OS
[02:31] <ssp_> psusi, thanks for those tips.
[02:31] <kristenB> I think I have a drive that is damaged. How can I know for sure ? If I go to gparted, there's a red exclamation mark on it, and it says:  warning: unable to detect file system. possible reasons: fs is damaged, fs is unknown to gparted, there is no fs available (unformatted), the device entry /dev/sdab1 is missing. What can I do from there?
[02:32] <escott> kristenB, run "sudo partprobe"
[02:32] <BlueEagle> kristenB: "sdab1"?
[02:32] <kristenB> BlueEagle: typo. I meant sdb1
[02:32] <CIDR> ActionParsnip it's a ATI HD 7770
[02:32] <BlueEagle> kristenB: On this disk, do you have any primary partitions or only logical ones?
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: get updated then install the proprietary driver, should help
[02:33] <CIDR> ActionParsnip I have.
[02:33] <kristenB> BlueEagle: on this disk, I don't have anything anymore. I think it's dead. I'd like to make sure.
[02:33] <BlueEagle> kristenB: Ie. if you only have logical partitions you have only sdb5 and higher.
[02:33] <CIDR> It's a fully updated 12.04 install, with the drivers downloaded from ATI...
[02:33] <sacarlson> kristenB: can your run sudo fsck /dev/sdb1 ; ?
[02:33] <kristenB> escott: I run sudo partprobe, it didn't returned any output
[02:33] <CMO> am comming back as soon i find anything
[02:33] <escott> kristenB, then reopen gparted and see if there error is still there
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: is system a laptop?
[02:34] <BlueEagle> kristenB: Before you started having these issues, did you have any primary partitions? Also could you tell more about the disk and file systems that were present?
[02:34] <CIDR> No.
[02:34] <kristenB> escott: yes it's still there even after gparted has been restarted
[02:35] <escott> kristenB, then what does "sudo parted -l /dev/sdb" say?
[02:35] <bz> what happened to your b?
[02:35] <kristenB> sacarlson: http://pastebin.com/1vbkJLVd
[02:36] <CIDR> It just makes 0 sense, that when I boot the first time, or reboot it from inside of ubuntu it just sits at the purple pinkish screen until I ctrl+alt+delete, then it reboots, and will bootup fine once I hit enter on grub
[02:36] <psusi> kristenB, is this the partition you just tried to reformat from ntfs to ext4?
[02:37] <kristenB> BlueEagle: Before I started having these issues, which were a few months ago since it's been a while I haven't touched this drive, after I've found out I was having difficulties with it, I had only one primary ntfs partition. It's a 2TB drive.
[02:37] <psusi> kristenB, you might open the disk utility and check the SMART status of the drive to make sure it is still healthy
[02:37] <CIDR> ctrl+alt+f1,f2 etc.. doesn't drop me into a shell or anything either.
[02:38] <kristenB> escott: http://pastebin.com/TpqSiviF
[02:38] <psusi> kristenB, is this the partition you just tried to convert from ntfs to ext4?
[02:39] <kristenB> psusi: no it's a completely different issue, sorry for the confusion
[02:39] <escott> kristenB, doesn't have a listed filesystem on it
[02:39] <psusi> kristenB, ohh... in that case, then it doesn't seem to contain a valid filesystem... you'll need to format it
[02:39] <escott> kristenB, either (a) you never created a filesystem on it or (b) you created the filesystem but never set the type in the table
[02:40] <kristenB> escott: psusi: BlueEagle: smart status: (green) Disk has a few bad sectors
[02:42] <kristenB> in gparted, the filesystem is 'unknown', as opposed to 'unallocated' if there were no filesystem set up.
[02:43] <kristenB> What should I do ? Should I just try to reformat it ?
[02:43] <BlackDalek> my laptop won't boot - get message at bootup, starting LightDM Manger [failed]
[02:44] <BlackDalek> My desktop manager won't start. "Starting LightDm Display Manager [failed]"
[02:45] <penguin359> Hello
[02:45] <gaelfx> BlackDalek: can you still log in using CLI? (press ctl+alt+f2)
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: are there any bugs reported?
[02:46] <penguin359> It appears the ulimit for open files defaults to 1024 on my system from bootup.
[02:46] <BlackDalek> gaelfx: I am using CLI now. Connected to IRC using irssi
[02:46] <penguin359> How do I increase that for all startup processes?
[02:46] <CIDR> I've been googling around, but it's a hard thing to search for
[02:46] <gaelfx> BlackDalek: did you try to reinstall lightdm?
[02:46] <aristidesfl> hi, I'm trying to run something on startup using screen/tmux, but screen/tmux just exit after a while when called from the upstart job with `sudo start cgminer`. If I use the same command which is inside the upstart job, in the command line it works fine. here is the script: http://hastebin.com/faqixeveji
[02:46] <penguin359> All the daemons from rc2.d are being set with that limit it seems.
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: I'd report a new bug. Very strange
[02:47] <CIDR> Yeah, it's just really bizarre
[02:48] <CIDR> like the keyboard num lock and what not still works
[02:48] <aristidesfl> now with quotes http://hastebin.com/hiridujuxa.sql
[02:48] <CIDR> but I just can't get it to display anything useful
[02:48] <escott> !reisub | CIDR
[02:48] <escott> CIDR, then check the logs
[02:48] <CIDR> escott what logs?
[02:49] <penguin359> Hmm, even init's ulimit for open files is 1024, where do I specify that?
[02:49] <CIDR> escott like the system isn't even booting yet I don't thin.  Magic sysrq does nothing
[02:49] <escott> CIDR, kern.log, xorg
[02:49] <escott> CIDR, i thought you had the purple plymouth splash? is it the purple grub?
[02:50] <CIDR> there's no "splash" just a purple screen
[02:50] <CIDR> so I guess grub
[02:50] <gaelfx> CIDR: if it were grub, you would get choices about which kernel image to boot, is it that, or is the screen literally all purple?
[02:50] <escott> CIDR, well that would point to a bios issue
[02:51] <CIDR> It's literally just all purple
[02:51] <CIDR> gaelfx after I hit ctrl+alt+delete and the system reboots then I get a grub screen with choices
[02:51] <CIDR> I hit enter and it boots fine
[02:51] <soothsayer> how do you install a radeon 9550 or ati RV350 into ubuntu 12.04?
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: could remove the boot options: quiet splash     see what happens
[02:52] <gaelfx> CIDR: so you can check the logs for errors that happen during that boot? You might want to look into the syslogs for the time that you booted and the purple screen came up
[02:53] <gaelfx> CIDR: or listen to ActionParsnip cause he probably knows more about it than I
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> worth a shot, i've no idea why its happening
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> just a useful step
[02:54] <CIDR> I'm checking it out
[02:54] <CIDR> yeah, I'd like to ditch the splash screen I don't need pretty
[02:54] <CIDR> working on it now
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[02:55] <CIDR> Yeah I'm in there
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: :)
[02:55] <CIDR> just updated grub, rebooting now
[02:55] <CIDR> hopefully now this will at least shed some light on what it's doing?
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: dhopefully
[02:57] <CIDR> takes my system a bit to boot
[02:57] <CIDR> it's a super micro serverboard, with ipmi and all that, and hardware raid
[02:57] <CIDR> WTF even after taking splash and quiet out this thing is still just at a pink screen
[02:58] <BlackDalek> gaelfx: tried re-installing lightDM... still failed to boot. It gives up between the ubuntu logo and the login screen. It dies once the 5 dots light up.
[02:58] <CIDR> woah
[02:58] <CIDR> I didn't touch a thing
[02:59] <CIDR> and it magically booted?
[03:00] <Saiki> [21:45] <Saiki> does anyone know how to fix this error?:http://nsa30.casimages.com/img/2012/07/02/120702044104682163.jpg
[03:00] <gaelfx> BlackDalek: did you check dmesg for errors relating to lightdm?
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: reboot again to test :)
[03:02] <gaelfx> lather, rinse, repeat
[03:02] <escott> CIDR, is the bootloader on the hardware raid
[03:02] <CIDR> ActionParsnip already ahead of you
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: sweet
[03:02] <CIDR> escott yes
[03:02] <CIDR> it's working now?
[03:03] <CIDR> No idea why?  Just from removing those options?  makes 0 sense
[03:03] <escott> CIDR, i wonder if that is just taking some time to come up from a cold start
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: maybe the system has difficulty going from plymouth to the login screen
[03:06] <CIDR> ActionParsnip I'm not sure?
[03:06] <CIDR> brb moving to my box
[03:07] <CIDR> more better
[03:07] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: no idea but sacrificing something as trivial as a bot splash is worth it for successful boots
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> *boot
[03:08] <CIDR> ActionParsnip: agreed, i could case less about a splash screen
[03:08]  * dr_willis wonders how much man  hours haave been  basically wasted on getting a nice boot splash going...
[03:09] <CIDR> probably A TON
[03:09] <dr_willis> makes me wonder what will hapen when we eventually move to Wayland.
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: people love eyecandy..
[03:10] <dr_willis> most dont even notice it.. till it breaks.  ;)
[03:10] <CIDR> heh
[03:10] <Saiki> [21:45] <Saiki> does anyone know how to fix this error?:http://nsa30.casimages.com/img/2012/07/02/120702044104682163.jpg
[03:10] <escott> speaking of breaking. ubuntu is so much worse than OS X and windows. you can tell by how little attention has been dedicated to making the kernel crash screens look good
[03:11] <Daekdroom> What kernel crash screens?
[03:11] <BlackDalek> gaelfx: there is something in dmesg which says "init: lightdm main process (939) terminated with status 1" - I don't know if that is relevant or not? :(
[03:12] <dr_willis> Somthing else i noticed thats sort of 'broken' today. with Firefox 13 the default homepage has some setting/quick config/ssync/buttons at the bottom of the page  EXCEPT in ubuntu :) due to the ubuntu extension thats enabled by default.. not sure if thats a bug.. or just an oversight due to the  new changes in FF.
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: i'd ask in #apache
[03:12] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: ##php told me to ask here, so I can play musical channels a bit I suupose.
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: asking in lots is good
[03:14] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: or it could just get annoying to everyone, if they're in all of them lol
[03:15] <soothsayer> I have a problem with my video I have a radeon 9550 or other wise known as a RV350 I am trying to install it in ubuntu 12.04.. any one out there can help? i have tried fglrx and the drivers from ati site. but can't get no where.
[03:15] <CIDR> soothsayer: What problem are you running info?
[03:15] <CIDR> ermm into
[03:16] <soothsayer> when I use the fglrx driver i get the pretty blank screen when I use the drivers for amd/ati I run into kernel issues.. because I am running a recent kernel.
[03:16] <CIDR> I have a HD7770 ATI just released drivers on the 28th, do you have updated drivers as well?
[03:17] <gaelfx> BlackDalek: well, that just tells us that it failed, which we already know, but does it have a time stamp by it? Maybe you can hunt down the previous errors using that info if it's there
[03:17] <dr_willis> you mean the fglrx drivers from the repos. Vs. the Drivers from the ati site (which are newer fglrx drivers)
[03:17] <soothsayer> No.. I  tried to download 9.3 and then download the recent cat. but it crashes from there i had it detect one time as a galluim?
[03:18] <CIDR> Crashes when/where?
[03:19] <soothsayer> yeah I have tried from the repos and i have tried from other sources.. the crashes happen when the driver loads. basically boot screen. either goes blank. won't load at all or just gives a grub prompt.. kinda random on that.
[03:19] <CIDR> I'm kind of scared of the mix of what all has been installed
[03:19] <soothsayer> I have even tried a fresh install.. and got nothing.
[03:19] <CIDR> I'd remove all fglrx things, download the latest cat, and try an install
[03:20] <soothsayer> me too.. hahaha... but i am trying to get it working..
[03:20] <soothsayer> last cat that comes up is 9.3 for driver.. 11.4 for cat
[03:20] <CIDR> Seems about right?
[03:21] <soothsayer> but the driver isn't installing because it requires a lower kernel. iwhich means I would have to change the kernels and such to get it to go down to be able to install amd drivers..
[03:21] <CIDR> That's odd.
[03:21] <soothsayer> that is what i thought.
[03:21] <CIDR> then again the cat version I have is 12.6
[03:21] <CIDR> so it's significantly newer
[03:22] <soothsayer> a web site was telling me it was a 2.6 kernel i had to use.. nah this is only a 256 meg.
[03:22] <soothsayer> my one gig card wouldn't hook up to this x8 agp and this is only sloted for x4
[03:23] <WeThePeople> is there a command to find out what router brand is being used on a network?
[03:23] <OerHeks> WeThePeople, ask the administrator?
[03:23] <CIDR> WeThePeople: check out the mac address, then look it up
[03:23] <litropy> WeThePeople, do oyu have the MAC address?
[03:23] <gaelfx> soothsayer: are you sure it didn't say >=2.6? Are you talking about the unoffical AMD Linux site?
[03:23] <WeThePeople> good idea
[03:23] <CIDR> run a nmap against it?
[03:23] <WeThePeople> thanks
[03:23] <sacarlson> WeThePeople: might try from a browser to http to the gateway address of your service
[03:24] <soothsayer> it was the official site and it was saying 2.6 yes.. 2.6.2 I think.
[03:24] <fabioluciano> WebDawg, Get your gateway adress and use telnet to communicate with.
[03:24] <soothsayer> and this is running kernel 2.8 or something like that.. i know it is close to 3.
[03:24] <litropy> WeThePeople, http://www.coffer.com/mac_find/
[03:24] <fabioluciano> there is no way to do that in simple way
[03:25] <WeThePeople> its a gemtek
[03:25] <litropy> WeThePeople, :)
[03:25] <dr_willis> never heard of that brand..
[03:26] <WeThePeople> oerheks, cidr, litropy, sacarlson, thanks
[03:26] <CIDR> soothsayer: hrmmm
[03:26] <fabioluciano> WebDawg, that information are from your network board, dont?
[03:26] <CIDR> soothsayer: and that's the newest version?
[03:27] <soothsayer> yeah I know right.. i have been bashing my poor keyboard to death with trying everything i could think of.
[03:27] <soothsayer> yeah those are the only version that work with my card.. because it is old and they dropped support for it.
[03:28] <litropy> dr_willis, it's a generic taiwanese brand. I haven't heard anything bad, but I haven't heard anything good, either.
[03:28] <soothsayer> wonder if they make a x4 nvidia that would be a gig of memory?
[03:28] <CIDR> x4 ?
[03:29] <soothsayer> yeah this is a 1.8 amd. but i can't find anything that works with video. but i sure can get another video card.. just a greedy frengi.
[03:30] <litropy> CIDR, soothsayer, I'm trying to gether what's going on ... you have a video card that's got compatibility issues?
[03:30] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/7qa1GzfX
[03:30] <CIDR> litropy: nah I'm fine
[03:30] <CIDR> it's soothsayer
[03:31] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: Looks like I'll be never-ending looping
[03:31] <soothsayer> yes litropy I have and older card RV350 or radeon 9550 and it is having a serious driver issue. the kernel is too high to use the older driver because they wanted natty or less and there isn't any support on the newer versions because they dropped support
[03:32] <litropy> soothsayer, didn't torvalds himself just give the finger to nvidia?
[03:33] <soothsayer> eh... Not sure.. I have ati currently well amd make down piece of crap. but i am thinking of trying to get another card but i am stuck with x4 right now.
[03:33] <litropy> Oh. This is ati
[03:33] <litropy> D'oh
[03:34] <soothsayer> yeah.... I am thinking of getting a nvidia.. because i am having so much trouble with this one hahaha
[03:35] <litropy> soothsayer, don't. Well, maybe for an older one. But the linux world is not happy with nvidia because of what you're going through right now.
[03:35] <CIDR> mv ati is working fine.
[03:35] <CIDR> My nvidia worked fine.
[03:35] <litropy> I know you have an ATI, just saying
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> litropy: nvidia joined the linux foundation recently
[03:35] <CIDR> soothsayer: how many monitors do you need to support?
[03:36] <soothsayer> just one.. and i am thinking of bumping to at least 512.. because doom runs to slow and jerky on this thing i would hate to trying anything elder scrolls.
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> soothsayer: nvidia rocks imho :)
[03:37] <soothsayer> might try to go for a 512 nvidia.. i have been with ati/amd long enough me thinks haahha
[03:38] <Grant_P>  /ignore -channels #mwsf * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[03:38] <Grant_P> err
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> Grant_P: drop the first space you added :)
[03:38] <Grant_P> ActionParsnip: lol, yes damn copy and paste :P
[03:39] <soothsayer> sorry was on a site and it handed me all the bad news of this card.. hahaha
[03:39] <CMO> hi again everyone was here earlier needed some help with dns server redirection i wanted to redirect hosts in lan to a specifiq hostname located on lan with a http server now i have found a soulution the program is called MintDNS url: www.dyndnsservices.com
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> Grant_P: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1070654/   you can add that to your ~/.irssi/config file :)
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> CMO: how many nodes need to be affected?
[03:41] <CMO> 254 hole lan network just add the configuration to the application and run a custom dns server
[03:42] <CMO> but it only works with windows server
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> CMO: can your router not manage the resolution?
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> CMO: what are you using for LAN DNS?
[03:43] <MissVera> How to open GRUB configuration file?
[03:43] <CMO> ActionParsnip to be onest with u am not an expert but the app can control the wan ip settings which will set a dns server on local area network
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: there are many, what are you wanting to achieve?
[03:44] <MissVera> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[03:44] <MissVera>  To permanently change the default kernel boot options, press ALT+F2 or open a terminal from system > accessories > terminal. Type in the following command:  Code: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub a text editor will open with the grub configuration file. Near the top of that file you will see something very similar to this:
[03:44] <MissVera> That command, opens nothing.
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[03:44] <CMO> so u can startup a dns server and run the dns reqest to a dynamic server such as dyndns while the setting table u have set is redirected to the server located on ur localmachine
[03:45] <MissVera> ActionParsnip: Precise
[03:45] <J-Escobar> Question. I am unable to boot into 10.04. I am probably going to have to reinstall the OS. Is there a way I can reinstall Ubuntu without touching /home?
[03:45] <CMO> J-Escobar just backup home mate by running live ubuntu distro and back it up to usb or create a second backup partion
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: you can also use:  sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> J-Escobar: you can boot liveCD and delete the other folders. Why do you not have a backup of your data?
[03:46] <CMO> J-Escobar did u install home on a seperate partion
[03:46] <MissVera> ActionParsnip: yay! ty!
[03:46] <CMO> J-Escobar thats true philwyett
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: are you using KDE or XFCE by any chance?
[03:47] <J-Escobar> The problem with home is it is 1TB. I can't figure out why it won't boot. I have the data on there still, but don't have an option to transfer it off before a new install.
[03:47] <MissVera> ActionParsnip: xfce
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: then you can use:  gksudo mousepad /etc/default/grub
[03:47] <CMO> anyway my question is does anyone now any dynamic dns server program for linux ubuntu distro
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: I also suggest you run:  sudo ln -s `which mousepad` /usr/bin/gedit
[03:48] <gaelfx> how do you make the e with the ` over it?
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> J-Escobar: once you get a boot, get a backup and you won't have any worries about data integrity and you won't have this issue
[03:49] <CMO> need to go thanks anyway BUYBUY
[03:49] <gaelfx> on a US keyboard that is
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: could use the charmap app and copy
[03:49] <MissVera> ActionParsnip: That was.. Confusing. But, I have Grub open, all i needed was to edit a line. it breaks at the beginning for whatever reason
[03:49] <J-Escobar> I was hoping to get a clean install without wiping /home. But I do have a backup of all my important stuff. If i have to, I can purchase a new HD to backup my downloads and then restore and transfer back. I was just hoping for a faster and easier way.
[03:50] <gaelfx> ActionParsnip: you don't happen to know the exact name of that char, do you?
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: it's ascii 138
[03:50] <aristidesfl> Hi, I've got a problem running curses via upstart job. It crashes right away on tmux and screen, but not if I run in normally, without going thru upstart. What can the problem be? I'm on a fresh 12.04
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: in the terminal I'd press CTRL+X and use the mousepad
[03:51] <c2tarun> can anyone please try dragging the URL icon from google-chrome to desktop. My screen is freezing after this.
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: CTRL+X will close nano for you
[03:52] <sam__853> i have 3 instances of smuxi open under my messaging center, can someone inform me how to close these please
[03:54] <Stark> Running a VM using VirtualBox. Is there any way to set it to occupy an entire workspace?
[03:54] <Stark> And have it unfocus whenever I want to navigate out of that workspace?
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: 'e acute'  is how i'd say it
[03:55] <MissVera> ActionParsnip, I had to change the grub file, and after i saved then exited, I typed sudo update-grub  and it said, /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannotfind a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[03:55] <Grant_P> ActionParsnip: Thanks for that one, will check it out. :)
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: are you chrooted?
[03:55] <MissVera> I,, have no idea
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: are you booted to liveCD to edit grub?
[03:56] <MissVera> No, I installed it.
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: doesn't sound good. I suggest you use this: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[03:57] <Athleek123> FATAL: module ndiswrapper not found.  What do I do??
[03:57] <Ghosthunter007> Stark, yes during its creation dynamic means to use only space used and the other option is entire disk at once
[03:58] <Athleek123> I reinstalled and everything ^^
[03:59] <Athleek123> I get the error at sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:59] <MissVera> ActionParsnip, What is this for?
[03:59] <MissVera> ActionParsnip, I had been trying to do this because that thread showed me to. The nomodeset, bit.
[04:00] <Athleek123> Can anyone help me with my problem?
[04:00] <Stark> Ghosthunter007: I mean for screen resolution
[04:00] <Athleek123> If not its ok
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: if the OS is installed, you can hold SHIFT at boot, then press E and (e)dit the boot
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: you can add and remove them on the line with: quiet splash     on
[04:01] <robotdevil> someone really need to make a website with xorg.conf templates
[04:01] <gaelfx> ActionParsnip: thanks
[04:01] <Stark> Ghosthunter007: The workspaces function default with Ubuntu doesn't seem to allow me to switch out of the workspace I have the VM on without clicking the desktop first to unfocus the VM
[04:01] <Stark> Ghosthunter007: So setting it to fullscreen would lock me there completely unless there's a way to get it to let me navigate out without clicking the desktop
[04:01] <litropy> Welp, this is off-chance, but: I enabled tilda's animated pulldown and now tilda is blank -- like, it's not refreshing nor showing me what's going on. Is there a way to tell tilda to refresh without ending the command I'm running?
[04:02] <MissVera> ActionParsnip, Im afraid to try and reboot. The last time, i was unable to get to the boot.  I would make it past post, then it'd blackscreen with a blinking cursor.
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> Stark: set it fullscreen then press right ALT, you can then use CRL+ALT+Left Cursor to switch workspace
[04:02] <litropy> #tilda is empty, and only one person is in solenoid.oftc.net #tilda
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: what GPU do you use?
[04:02] <MissVera> ActionParsnip, so, I already edited grub. but when i tried to update it, it gave me that error /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannotfind a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[04:03] <Athleek123> Anyone knowledgeable about ndiswrapper?
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> litropy: try killing tilda, renaming tilda's config folder (or file) then rerun
[04:03] <Stark> ActionParsnip: My host key isn't set to right ALT, but the host key also won't let me use my workspace navigation command.
[04:03] <MissVera> ActionParsnip, and, that video you linked me to, I havent watched it just yet, but, found this in the comments https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair   ?
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: doesn't sound good, are you fully updated
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: try both :)
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: / needs to be mounted for the OS to boot
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: / holds the OS itself
[04:04] <MissVera> ActionParsnip, how would i see if im fully updated?  Sorry. I've been using Ubuntu for all of... two days.
[04:04] <litropy> ActionParsnip, I would, I really, really would, but I'm upgrading to 12.10 ... within tilda, at this very moment.
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> litropy: ah
[04:04] <JustAPerson> Hi! I just upgraded to 12.04 two days ago. the bar that SHOULD BE on the TOP with the battery, volume, time and username info is invisible. How do I fix this?
[04:05] <Athleek123> ActionParsnip when you are done would you mind giving me a hand?  I would really appreciate it
[04:05] <MissVera> ActionParsnip, those are two separate commands, right?
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> litropy: what if you press ENTER after clicking tilda?
[04:05] <JustAPerson> I can see the objects on it (i.e. the time, how much battery I have left) but the bar itself is invisible
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> JustAPerson: does it affect all session types?
[04:06] <JustAPerson> ActionParsnip: I do not know what you mean by that
[04:06] <MissVera> Well.. I hope they were two seperate commands, because thats how i entered 'em >.>
[04:06] <aperson> why must that always highlight me? :S
[04:06] <litropy> ActionParsnip, nothing.
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> JustAPerson: when you log in, click the Ubuntu logo near your username, those are the sessions you can use. Try a differnet one
[04:07] <litropy> ActionParsnip, I suppose I could just leave it and hope it doesn't ask me anything config oriented ... it might install all the way through and return to shell prompt, but ... I'm uneasy about the chances.
[04:08] <MissVera> ActionParsnip, It's updating, I guess.
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> litropy: if you open a terminal and run:  ps -ef | grep dpkg | grep -v grep     do you get output?
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: indeed. helps a lot
[04:08] <MissVera> ActionParsnip  Those were two separate commands, weren't they?
[04:09] <JustAPerson> ActionParsnip: yes it affects the guest session as well. I notice the bar starts as a grey color, but when I open a window it becomes invisible
[04:09] <litropy> ActionParsnip, yes, lots
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> litropy: ok, the update is running
[04:09] <maicod> I used ubuntu livecd because I wanted to resize a partition on a SDcard but that also contains a swap partition and the ubuntu livecd then 'steals' that swap partition. It locked it with swapon. why is that ?
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: you can run it as one, the semicolon just allows multiple commands on one line
[04:09] <litropy> ActionParsnip, at least I can check that.
[04:10] <MissVera> Ah!
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> litropy: could run top as well, see if its hung etc
[04:10] <c2tarun> can anyone please try dragging the URL icon from google-chrome to desktop. My screen is freezing after this.
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> litropy: you may be able to fg the process in a new terminal, not sure if that's possible though
[04:10] <MissVera> Uh
[04:11] <litropy> ActionParsnip, yep, I've got htop.
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> litropy: you could also kill the process then run the !aptfix commands
[04:11] <Athleek123> FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.  Can anyone help???
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: do you have the ndiswrapper package installed?
[04:11] <Athleek123> Yes
[04:11] <Stark> Well... it would appear as though my issue fixed itself.
[04:11] <Stark> Perhaps because I installed the Guest Additions.
[04:12] <MissVera> ActionParsnip...  failed to write status database record blah blah No space left on device...  Even though, when i installed, it reformatted, and I should have 50gb free...
[04:12] <Athleek123> Ndiswrapper -l returns correctly
[04:12] <Athleek123> Says driver installed
[04:13] <Athleek123> ActionParsnip it's when I run sudo modprobe ndiswrapper that I get the error
[04:13] <KorvinSzanto> Has anyone had luck using empathy with msn?
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> KorvinSzanto: ive setup amsn with msn before
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: try:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install ndiswrapper    may help
[04:15] <Athleek123> Ok
[04:15] <MissVera> Anyone know how to open gparted from the terminal?
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: gksudo gparted
[04:15] <kanupatar> how you guys debug the kernel  for any issues/for performance ?
[04:15] <kanupatar> using kgdb ?
[04:15] <Athleek123> ActionParsnip unable to locate package ndiswrapper
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> !info ndiswrapper
[04:16] <KorvinSzanto> ActionParsnip, my online friends aren't showing up
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> !find ndisgtk
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> !info ndisgtk | Athleek123
[04:16] <KorvinSzanto> infact, users don't show up in the list at all
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: ndisgtk should be default install
[04:16] <Athleek123> ActionParsnip that wouldn't install.
[04:16] <KorvinSzanto> it says the msn is connected, but it just doesn't seem to be working
[04:16] <litropy> !aptfixes
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | litropy
[04:17] <MissVera> ActionParsnip, It failed updating because i supposedly ran out of space, even though i just reformatted, and in gparted, it says i've only used 3.77 gb , and have 51 remaining... though, the desktop and the terminal say im out of freespace?
[04:17] <Athleek123> Actionparsnip wait u mean it is installed automatically?
[04:18] <Athleek123> Errors were encountered while processing: ndisgtk
[04:18] <pengw> yo man
[04:19] <pengw> in ubuntu 12.04, is 1000kb = 1mb or 1024kb = 1mb???
[04:19] <Athleek123> Actionparsnip ^
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: what is the text above it?
[04:20] <Athleek123> Processing triggers for man-db
[04:20] <JustAPerson> ActionParsnip: Yes it affects all sessions (the top bar with time/session name being invisibile) Is this a part of unity? I tried `unity --reset` but the problem persists
[04:20] <MissVera> Somebody just beat me to death with this computer please.
[04:21] <pengw> 1024
[04:21] <pengw> man
[04:21] <pengw> i thought it is 1000
[04:21] <Athleek123> Actionparsnip ^
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> JustAPerson: not sure dude, does it affect a new ubuntu user?
[04:22] <y0om4> hi
[04:22] <y0om4> wget will allow me to download all the url files in a text file, right?
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: might be why you are getting the issue
[04:22] <Athleek123> Actionparsnip what is?
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> y0om4: http://www.veen.com/jeff/archives/000573.html
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: the fact that the OS has issues installing ndisgtk etc
[04:24] <Athleek123> ActionParsnip ok I'm gonna try something then ill get back to you
[04:24] <JustAPerson> ActionParsnip: just made a new user and it was also affected by this problem
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> y0om4: seems to be the -i option
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> JustAPerson: tried a different theme? use myunity to switch theme
[04:26] <Athleek123> Actionparsnip on the ndiswrapper install page it says there is a known bug in these deb packages that returns {insert error I am having}.  The kernel module may not have installed, to avoid this problem, it is best to compile from the source at ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net
[04:26] <Athleek123> What should I do
[04:27] <Athleek123> Aka how do I install the "kernel module"
[04:27] <psycho_oreos> modprobe
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: i guess do what it says, or grab a diffeent wifi device, they are stupidly cheap
[04:27] <Athleek123> But what does compile from the source mean
[04:27] <psycho_oreos> Athleek123, build a software from its source code, simply what it implies
[04:28] <psycho_oreos> well a software/driver/etc
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: programmers write source code for apps, then compile them. The ubuntu guys make handy debs for the binaries (programs) which result from the source code
[04:28] <Athleek123> How do I compile?
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: the guide is saying you will need to compile the source code yourself
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> !compile
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: is there no linux native driver for your wifi chip?
[04:30] <Athleek123> ActionParsnip nope
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: what wifi chip are you using?
[04:31] <JustAPerson> ActionParsnip: tried a few themes and the bar is still invisible. Also, windows in general look wrong: http://imgur.com/GnXtk
[04:32] <Liquidedge> Is there a way to create a shortcut in a folder to another folder that is on an external drive?
[04:32] <CIDR> Anyone ran D3 in wine ?
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> JustAPerson: thats just a terminal windows, what is the issue?
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> Liquidedge: use a symlink
[04:33] <JustAPerson> CIDR: yes I have, there are some graphics glitches though
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: checked the appdb?
[04:33] <Athleek123> ActionParsnip wg311v3
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: thats the adapter, not the chip
[04:33] <MissVera> gksudo seppuku
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: run:  sudo lshw -C network       what is the chip used
[04:34] <Liquidedge> ActionParsnip, reading about that now.  Should work.  Thanks!
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> Liquidedge: ln -s /path/to/folder ~/Desktop/name
[04:35] <Liquidedge> Now that's service.
[04:35] <Saiki> after running apt-get dist-upgrade -y  do I need to run anythign else to upgrage my system?
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> Liquidedge: obviously change /path/to/folder  to what you want to link TO and the ~/Desktop/name can be where you ink TO
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> Liquidedge: watch out using spaces for stuff, or you will need to escape them :)
[04:36] <Athleek123> Actionparsnip Marvell technology group ltd. 88w8835 [Libertas]
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: great. THAT is the chip
[04:37] <CIDR> JustAPerson: I ca n't get it to lauch.  I got the launcher and installer to work, now that it's 100% it won't go
[04:37] <CIDR> using wine 1.5.7
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: Netgear bought a tonne of wifi chips from Marvell and made the adapter you are using
[04:37] <Grant_P> brb
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: I'd ask in #wine
[04:37] <CIDR> thanks
[04:37] <Athleek123> Actionparsnip so how do I get the Linux driver?
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: and the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: seen this page?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3
[04:39] <JustAPerson> ActionParsnip: did you reply earlier? I had to reconnect. Changing themes does not help
[04:39] <Athleek123> Actionparsnip thats exactly what I dis
[04:39] <spik3> Hi guy's need help I plug and disconnected a monitor and lost 3d in unity how can I fix this
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> JustAPerson: yes, all you posted was a terminal, which oesn't show much...
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> spik3: reboot maybe..
[04:40] <Saiki> after running apt-get dist-upgrade -y  do I need to run anythign else to upgrage my system?
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: does reinstalling ndiswrapper with the debs help?
[04:40] <spik3> ActionParsnip I've tried that no go?
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> spik3: is Unity2D ok?
[04:41] <Athleek123> ActionParsnip: nope
[04:41] <spik3> Action Parsnip 2D is ok
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: looks like you#ll be compiling ndiswrapper then
[04:41] <Athleek123> ActionParsnip how again? And after I compile what do I do?
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> spik3: ok, reboot and log in to the unity3D session, then log off and log into the 2D sessin and read:  /var/log/Xorg.0.log   may give clues
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=compile+ndiswrapper
[04:42] <JustAPerson> ActionParsnip: sorry, I meant to show that the menu buttons and drop downs are all different. (The terminal was originally set to black text on black background for whatever, but I changed this)
[04:42] <Athleek123> Ty lol
[04:43] <litropy> ActionParsnip, ps -ef | grep dpkg | grep -v grep now returns nothing. Is it safe to say I can reboot?
[04:43] <spik3> ActionParsnip I will do catch-up soon
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> litropy: if no dpkg processes are running then its probably finished. reboot and hold your breath
[04:43] <litropy> ActionParsnip, k thx
[04:43] <Michael216> Hello
[04:44] <Michael216> Im looking to install ubuntu for the first time.
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> Michael216: cool
[04:44] <Saiki> Michael216: good choce
[04:44]  * litropy draws in all the air his lungs can contain, straining his diaphragm, puffing his cheeks, crossing both his fingers ...
[04:45] <Liquidedge> Problem #2:  When I ssh in to the machine, it accepts the ssh username/password, no problem, but the screen is just black.
[04:45] <Saiki> after running apt-get dist-upgrade -y  do I need to run anythign else to upgrage my system?  (like a do-release-upgrade) or somehting
[04:45] <Liquidedge> Saiki, No.
[04:45] <Michael216> I just mainly use the computer for surfing and playing games
[04:45] <Saiki> Liquidedge: simple reboot?
[04:45] <Liquidedge> Yup
[04:45] <Michael216> will it be a smoother ride?
[04:46] <Liquidedge> Michael216, it'll make an old machine seem super fast.
[04:46] <JustAPerson> Liquidedge: try entering `reset` blindly?
[04:46] <Saiki> Michael216: depending on what games you play
[04:46] <Michael216> Just basic browser based games
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: you now have the latest packages for the release you are using :)
[04:46] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: I'm trying to upgrade from lucid
[04:46] <Liquidedge> JustAPerson, Good thought.  Didn't work, though.
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | Saiki
[04:47] <spik3> ActionParsnip forgot to ask what do we look for
[04:47] <Michael216> Im out peace be back in the future
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> spik3: just errors really, and warnings
[04:48] <JustAPerson> Is there a way to repair my 12.04 installation? Much like with a LiveCD, but without the LiveCD part?
[04:48] <spik3> ActionParsnip: ok do you want me to do with the file
[04:48] <a5m0> anyone have trouble with the timeskip today on ubuntu? I have not but I've heard a lot of servers have
[04:48] <a5m0> JustAPerson, what's wrong with it?
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> spik3: read it
[04:50] <spik3> ActionParsinp: OK really dont know what I'm looking for /at
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> spik3: down the left side you will see (II)  which are informational
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> spik3: (WW) which are warnings (nothing major but should be noted)
[04:50] <JustAPerson> a5m0: a bunch of shit: nautilus won't start because of some dynamic library conflicts, the bar on the very top that shows the time, volume, etc is invisible, and a lot of things just look plain wrong/different
[04:50] <mah454> default gnome-shell theme is Adwaita , How can change it ? (change default)
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> spik3: and (EE) which are errors
[04:51] <spik3> ActionParsnip: ok give me a while back soon
[04:52] <a5m0> JustAPerson, a reinstall would probably be fastest
[04:53] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: is 12.04 out yet?
[04:53] <a5m0> yes Saiki
[04:53] <crond> Saiki, 12.04 has been out in 04/12
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: look at the version number, think about what year it is
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: the version numbers are extremely logical
[04:54] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: ok, I'm not thinking verystraight right now, sorry about that
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: its cool :)
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: makes EOL easy to calculate too :)
[04:54] <Saiki> 10.04 says "No new release found"
[04:54] <JustAPerson> a5m0: is there a CLI way to do that like do-release-upgrade? I don't have access to any blank CDs to burn an image to
[04:55] <mah454> How can fix this problem ? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=4716839#post4716839
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: you need to use -d   you will get offered the upgrade when Precise goes to 12.04.1
[04:55] <a5m0> JustAPerson, I found this by googling http://techie-buzz.com/foss/reinstall-ubuntu-from-command-line.html
[04:55] <blodgfx> hey
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> mah454: have you asked in #gnome as wel?
[04:56] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: there it goes. thanks
[04:56] <a5m0> JustAPerson, you could try the second command first to see if that resolves your conflicts: sudo apt-get install -f
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: np dude. be sure your backups are up to date in case of catastroophe
[04:56] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: it was 99% stockk, so I'm not worried
[04:57] <mah454> ActionParsnip, yes but do not answer to my question !
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> mah454: gah
[04:57] <mah454> ActionParsnip, sorry ! gah ?
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> mah454: gah = expression of exasperation
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> mah454: just found this: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/themeselector-gnome-shell-extension-to.html
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> mah454: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=gnome-shell+change+theme+ubuntu   that's all I used, then clicked the top link...
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> mah454: have you seen the link I pasted before?
[04:59] <JustAPerson> a5m0: I tried the second one first, it didn't do anything (0 packages changed) The first command appears to have frozen
[04:59] <a5m0> i think the only thing to do would be to wait
[04:59] <a5m0> or check top to see if there is actiivity
[04:59] <a5m0> i assume it would have a lot to do
[05:00] <spik3> ActionParsnip:found 5 ww relating to fonts 2ww Nvidia and 2 EE in Nvidia
[05:00] <a5m0> anyone know a good tutorial to move your boot partition to usb? for having full disck encryption?
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> spik3: fonts you can ignore
[05:01] <spik3> ActionParsnip: good
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> spik3: i suggest you uninstall the nvidia driver, reboot then reinstall it
[05:02] <spik3> ActionParnsnip: ok but how to remove Nvidia and reinstall as a Newbie
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> spik3: sudo apt-get --remove nvidia-current nvidia-settings
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> oops
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> spik3: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-current nvidia-settings
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> you can tell its 6am here :)
[05:05] <CetniK> is argentina white?
[05:05] <spik3> ActionParsnip time here is 15:05
[05:06] <designbybeck> hi
[05:06] <gaelfx> short of contacting the manufacturer directly, is there any way to find out what wireless chipset a USB wireless dongle uses?
[05:06] <gaelfx> (also short of actually buying it?)
[05:08] <designbybeck> why do YOU use Ubuntu Linux?/ Open Source Software!?
[05:08] <psycho_oreos> gaelfx, there are a few sites that may tell you such as linux-wireless.passys.nl (or something like that), Then there's googling of model number appending "; chipset" behind it
[05:09] <CetniK> hmm
[05:09] <gaelfx> psycho_oreos: thanks, will try
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: wrong channel dude, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:10] <psycho_oreos> gaelfx, wikidevi may also tell you the chipset and their chipset ID. That's the other one I was trying to remember.. though there are a fair few sites.
[05:11] <designbybeck> ActionParsnip:  Don't you ever take a break and jump to another channel! ;)
[05:11] <blodgfx> hey
[05:11] <gaelfx> psycho_oreos: that was the first google result actually :D good call
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: i'm in +1 sometimes
[05:13] <blodgfx> google comin to montreal soon
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> blodgfx: its already there: http://www.google.com/about/jobs/locations/montreal/
[05:14] <psycho_oreos> gaelfx, off topic but I sometimes I hate winter days. Googling using my search method seems to be the fastest way but I'd wouldn't rest on a single answer. I would get a general consensus of the various reports on what people say its actual chipset is for that specific model.
[05:15] <blodgfx> ubuntu support uefi ?
[05:17] <CetniK> arch linux
[05:17] <gaelfx> psycho_oreos: yeah, don't worry, I have a little skeptic in me
[05:19] <psycho_oreos> gaelfx, and with that I'd add the likes of brand names like: netgear, 3com, trendnet and belkin to the extra-cautious list. Those vendors are notoriously known to mix various chipsets under the same model number. Needless to say it causes frustration and grief to the unsuspecting end user
[05:19] <sulaiman> Greetings
[05:19] <sulaiman> Everytime I open up my terminal, I have to enter "source ~/.rvm/scripts/rvm" , can I make it permanent?
[05:20] <blodgfx> ibm have good support for linux
[05:21] <psycho_oreos> except IBM doesn't manufacture wireless cards/dongles
[05:21] <blodgfx> hehe
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> sulaiman: sure you can add it in ~/.profile
[05:26] <gaelfx> psycho_oreos: actually, the one I'm looking at now is netgear :P
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> sulaiman: or rename ~/.bashrc   and symlink your source file to ~/.bashrc
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> sulaiman: editting ~/.profile is probably sleeker
[05:28] <psycho_oreos> gaelfx, well I'd be very cautious :) I have had two devices from netgear which claim they were supported but it came out to be a completely different chip inside :)　Of one of them was this: http://daemonizer.de/prism54/wg511/
[05:29] <SteinerRecliner> REGISTER avatar09<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:29] <ActionParsnip> SteinerRecliner: i'd ask in #freenode for help
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> SteinerRecliner: nice nick btw :)
[05:29] <SteinerRecliner> Thank you
[05:32] <blodgfx> what is the speed of clock in ubuntu ?
[05:32] <gaelfx> psycho_oreos: there's always that risk, but the place I'm dealing with has a fairly good return policy, so I'm gonna be optimistic
[05:33] <sulaiman> thanks ActionParsnip
[05:33] <blodgfx> 125mhz?
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> blodgfx: dmesg can show 1000ths of a second in it's log...
[05:36] <navatwo> I know its off topic, but http://i.imgur.com/G60bi.jpg
[05:36] <navatwo> :|
[05:38] <LiquidEdge> I have sound everywhere but in Chromium.  Thoughts?
[05:38] <navatwo> whoops, wrong channel.
[05:38] <siva40801> Hi , I have problem with apt-get . Getting some error like "unable to connect to <IP_ADDRESS>:3128"
[05:38] <navatwo> LiquidEdge: check that the driver is showing up in your sound settings
[05:38] <siva40801> some one please help me
[05:39] <LiquidEdge> navatwo, Chrome sound settings?
[05:39] <Saiki> siva40801: what are you trying to do?
[05:39] <LiquidEdge> navatwo, Sound works everywhere else.  Movies, music, etc
[05:39] <siva40801> Saiki: sudo apt-get update :(
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> LiquidEdge: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    wait 10 seconds then reboot
[05:39] <Saiki> siva40801: vm or dedicated?
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> LiquidEdge: do other browsers have sound?
[05:39] <LiquidEdge> It's the only browser I have on here.
[05:39] <LiquidEdge> Uses Alsa
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> LiquidEdge: don't you think you should try others...
[05:40] <siva40801> Saiki: I'm running this command in terminal (my ubuntu version is 12.04 LTS)
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> siva40801: do you use a proxy for web access?
[05:40] <LiquidEdge> ActionParsnip, my life is on Chrome, need to get that to work.
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> LiquidEdge: it's to TEST
[05:40] <LiquidEdge> I'll see what firefox does.
[05:41] <CMO> Hii ALL
[05:41] <litropy> Okay. I am in a text-based irc client, gdm won't start. I think pastebinit will post without a window manager ...
[05:41] <LiquidEdge> I miss BitchX
[05:41]  * wylde slides out the back door ....
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> litropy: sure, pastebinit is pure cli
[05:41] <litropy> wylde lol
[05:42] <CMO> litropy try to reinstall gdm or install kde
[05:42]  * Saiki locks and welds the back door shut
[05:42] <siva40801> ActionParsnip: yeah.. once I used proxy.. but now I'm not using proxy
[05:42] <litropy> hahahaha
[05:42] <litropy> see the thing is, I think I can only get into one tty, and I'm using it. but let me try ...
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> siva40801: then edit /etc/apt/apt.conf   and comment the proxy lines out. You may also need to unset http_proxy and ftp_proxy
[05:42] <navatwo> LiquidEdge: sorry, I meant your system sounds
[05:45] <CMO> anyway i found a dynamic dns server for windows server does anyone now any for linux
[05:45] <xujun10110> i want to use squidt to cache videos,but i don't know how to do
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> xujun10110: doesn't that happen by default?
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> xujun10110: have you asked in #squid too?
[05:47] <LiquidEdge> Okay, no sound in Firefox or Chromium, but movies and music work fine.
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> LiquidEdge: qis this in flash items? like youtube?
[05:47] <LiquidEdge> Correct.  Video plays, though.
[05:47] <xujun10110> no
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> LiquidEdge: then why didn't you say that?
[05:47] <LiquidEdge> Sorry.
[05:47] <xujun10110> exit
[05:48] <LiquidEdge> Didn't even think about it until you said it.
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> LiquidEdge: i bet if you play a streaming avi in your browser it plays
[05:48] <LiquidEdge> ActionParsnip, makes sense.  How do I get the flash stuff to play?
[05:48] <LiquidEdge> I'm using this as a media center, so kind of important.
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> LiquidEdge: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[05:49] <LiquidEdge> Yeah, gimme a few.
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> LiquidEdge: you can use http://pastie.org   (or similar)
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> LiquidEdge: if you copy and paste it as one command, its easier for you and you won't butcher the command
[05:51] <litropy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1070740
[05:51] <litropy> I believe you'll find the problem there.
[05:51] <Leo13> hello everyone
[05:52] <litropy> But I don't know what to do about it
[05:52] <Leo13> i have a question
[05:52] <Leo13> i want to program for ubutu
[05:52] <Leo13> what labnguage do u gusy use ?
[05:52] <litropy> something about it not being able to properly detect my GPU
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> !contribute | Leo13 mainly C and C++
[05:52] <Leo13> *What language do u guys use ?
[05:52] <litropy> Leo, we're primarily English.
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> Leo13: and python
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> LiquidEdge: is your web connection slow?
[05:53] <Leo13> hehehe
[05:53] <Leo13> i mean programming language
[05:53] <Leo13> u see im a .Net programmer
[05:53] <LiquidEdge> ActionParsnip, no.  Just setting up a lot.  Doing it now.
[05:53] <litropy> Leo13, I know I was joking
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> LiquidEdge: gotcha
[05:54] <Leo13> but im interested in linux , so do u guys have some IDE or something like VS ?
[05:54] <litropy> Guys, if I don't respond to something you sy to me, say it again because I don't have highlighting here and all these msgs look the same.
[05:54] <imetallica> Leo13, do u code using which Language?
[05:54] <Leo13> c#
[05:55] <imetallica> umm
[05:55] <imetallica> there is Mono
[05:55] <Leo13> yea
[05:55] <Leo13> but i heard
[05:55] <Leo13> is not installed as default anymore
[05:55] <Leo13> on ubuntu
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> Leo13: just offer your talents to a project and I'm sure they'll be glad for the extra hand
[05:55] <imetallica> then you can install it via software center
[05:55] <Leo13> right
[05:56] <Leo13> iwanted to learn a new language
[05:56] <imetallica> you could be using vala, it's somewhat like C#
[05:56] <imetallica> and it's for GTK stuff
[05:56] <Leo13> vala do they have an IDE for that ?
[05:56] <litropy> I reinstalled gdm, no dice
[05:56] <imetallica> I think geany can handle vala
[05:57] <litropy> but see my Xorg log above.
[05:57] <Leo13> Geany
[05:57] <litropy> I noticed a segfault with xorg upon startx
[05:57] <Leo13> Geany
[05:57] <Leo13> is a text editor isnt ?
[05:57] <imetallica> well since I'm a C/C++/Python dude, can't tell how is Vala support... I most do my development using geany
[05:57] <imetallica> not only a text editor
[05:58] <imetallica> is an IDE
[05:58] <siva40801> ActionParsnip: There is no file like /etc/apt/apt.conf  :(
[05:58] <wylde> litropy: have you verified your RAM and filesystem are in good health?
[05:58] <imetallica> siva40801, if you are looking for changing the repositories, it's in the file called /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:59] <Leo13> i guess im not gonna get Visual Studio in linux right ?
[05:59] <imetallica> Leo13, geany is a good IDE
[05:59] <Psytonic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1070749/ <<< I'm getting a permission denied error?
[05:59] <Leo13> ill give it a shot
[05:59] <Psytonic> and probably a few other issues....
[05:59] <Leo13> and see what happens
[05:59] <litropy> wylde, I'm not sure as to the best way to verify that using bash.
[05:59] <siva40801> imetallica: Actually I'm getting error when I try to run sudo apt-get update :(
[06:00] <sacarlson> Leo13: I like glade and it's development tools if you want to make gui stuf fast
[06:00] <imetallica> Leo13, if you know how to handle XML, there is glade to bake interfaces for you
[06:00] <imetallica> siva40801, which error?
[06:00] <Leo13> thats pretty cool
[06:00] <spik3> ActionParsnip: removed Nvidia and tried to reinstall Nvidia no luck any more suggestion?
[06:00] <Leo13> Glade is something similar to what i want
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> siva40801: then run:  grep -R http /etc/apt/*
[06:01] <Leo13> i wonder why mono is not in ubuntu by default anymore
[06:01] <Leo13> it was a pretty cool framework
[06:01] <litropy> guys, I only have one tty ... I'm gonna disconnect from here then pastebin a dmesg
[06:01] <imetallica> Leo13, I guess due to proprietary problems
[06:01] <sacarlson> Leo13: you can proto with glade in ruby or python or C# C++ ...
[06:01] <wylde> litropy: there should be a memory test option in the grub menu, and you can use fsck to check the filesystem.  'sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now' will force a reboot and filesystem check.
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> Psytonic: use visudo to edit sudoers, I don't suggest you add that as you will strip any sort of security from your OS
[06:02] <Psytonic> ActionParsnip: I know
[06:02] <siva40801> ActionParsnip: all results are in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:02] <Leo13> what do u guys like best
[06:02] <Psytonic> ActionParsnip: and I'm fine with it - need to know whats wrong though
[06:02] <Leo13> Java or just straight C
[06:02] <Leo13> for linux ?
[06:02] <imetallica> C
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> siva40801: then run:  grep -R -i proxy /etc/apt/*
[06:03] <imetallica> imho
[06:03] <siva40801> imetallica: The error is "Unable to Connect to <IP_ADDRESS>:3128"
[06:03] <imetallica> Java needs a JVM, we got openJDK but it's not the best around the world
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> siva40801: also try:  grep proxy ~/.bashrc
[06:03] <Leo13> have u used java a lot
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> imetallica: we also 'got' oracle jvk...
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> *jdk
[06:04] <Leo13> im a windows guy
[06:04] <Leo13> and always had a hard time
[06:04] <Leo13> to beleive the portability of java
[06:04] <litropy> K. 4016MB of RAM. Xorg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1070740 | dmesg: http://[aste.ubuntu.com/1070750
[06:04] <imetallica> ActionParsnip, I know we do, but it's a pain in the butt to install it in any platform.
[06:04] <Psytonic> Leo13: whys that?
[06:05] <imetallica> and it's not delivered "out of the box"
[06:05] <litropy> The system seems fine enough ... I think it just forgot about my GPU
[06:05] <Leo13> ive heard a lot of complaints
[06:05] <siva40801> ActionParsnip: there are no results for both commands..  no files are listed
[06:05] <litropy> wylde, actionparsnip
[06:05] <Leo13> like if i write something in java can i run the same file in ubuntu
[06:05] <wylde> ewwww ATI :P
[06:05] <Psytonic> hoping someone can help me with a shell script >>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1070749/
[06:05] <Leo13> without changes to the source ?
[06:06] <imetallica> Leo13, if you want to do stuff nice for Linux, you should try GTK or Qt libraries to design interfaces... programming languages I could suggest Python or C++
[06:06] <Psytonic> Leo13: thats kinda the point
[06:06] <Leo13> i know is the point
[06:06] <Leo13> but does it actually work ?
[06:06] <Leo13> flawlessly
[06:06] <Leo13> im just asking
[06:06] <Psytonic> NOTHING works flawlessly
[06:06] <Psytonic> at all, ever
[06:06] <Leo13> im a .net developer
[06:06] <Psytonic> but yes, it works
[06:06] <litropy> leo13, more or less
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> siva40801: ok what is the output of:  echo $http_proxy
[06:07] <litropy> gtk and qt are crossplatform
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> Psytonic: death does
[06:07] <Psytonic> ActionParsnip: :P
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> Psytonic: if someone fully dies, then death has worked
[06:07] <Leo13> there u go
[06:07] <imetallica> ActionParsnip, lol?!
[06:07] <Leo13> Action has a point
[06:07] <Psytonic> or does it?
[06:07] <siva40801> ActionParsnip: you are awesome!!  result is "http://<IP_ADDRESS>:3128"
[06:07] <wylde> litropy: your dmesg url got a little beat up....
[06:07] <zixem> Hey xD
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> siva40801: then that is defined in ~/.bashrc or /etc/bash.bashrc  or /etc/environment
[06:08] <litropy> wow I can't even /me with this client
[06:08] <imetallica> Leo13, if you want portability go for Python... it could give you less headaches + there are good bindings in GTK && QT
[06:09] <Leo13> phyton
[06:09] <imetallica> thus is cross platform
[06:09] <Leo13> what is the syntax
[06:09] <Leo13> like
[06:09] <litropy>  /me cries
[06:09] <Psytonic> nothing wrong with java...
[06:09] <Leo13> im used to c like syntax
[06:09] <imetallica> it's very similar
[06:09] <Leo13> had a hard time with ruby already
[06:09] <Psytonic> hoping someone can help me with a shell script >>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1070749/
[06:10] <imetallica> ya ain't goin' to have much hard time with it
[06:10] <Leo13> Python it is  then
[06:10] <litropy> psytonic, I would if I had a browser!
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> litropy: rop the first space
[06:10] <wylde> litropy: just a thought. Have you tried purging fglrx? Then trying the nouveau drivers?
[06:10] <litropy> actionparsnip, this client doesn't /me. so I'm pseudo /me
[06:10] <imetallica> http://www.python.org <-- the way to go
[06:10] <litropy> 'ing
[06:10] <Psytonic> Leo13: why python over java?
[06:10] <LiquidEdge> ActionParsnip, Can you give me that command again?  Something died on my machine.   I'm headed over to +1. If you message me, I MAY get it ...
[06:13] <imetallica> too brainstorming for me
[06:14] <Psytonic> typo: different keyboard than I'm used to
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> Psytonic: you could also ask in #bash for help with bash conditons
[06:14] <Psytonic> ActionParsnip: ta
[06:14] <wylde> litropy: I'm far from an expert but it looks to me like the proprietary driver is causing the segfault. Personally I'd clean out that driver and try to get to a basic working system. Then approach getting proprietary driver working.
[06:14] <imetallica> wylde, which proprietary driver?
[06:15] <imetallica> did u made the updates? after updating the kernel I could install fine my video card drivers
[06:16] <Leo13> guys can i ask u a quick question about the drivers in ubuntu and linux
[06:16] <litropy> wylde, all I've got is a command prompt. I'd be googling how to install a generic ati driver, if I could.
[06:16] <Leo13> in general
[06:16] <imetallica> wylde, run, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, reboot and try to reinstall the restricted drivers, the updated version one.
[06:16] <litropy> imetallica, I am up to date.
[06:16] <wylde> imetallica: I'm not the one having the problem.
[06:16] <imetallica> Leo13, shoot it
[06:17] <imetallica> ah k, sry... sleepy here :P
[06:17] <litropy> imetallica, any idea what the command for resricted driver install would be?
[06:17] <Leo13> do u guys write the drivers
[06:17] <Leo13> for ubuntu
[06:17] <Leo13> or the manufacturers do ?
[06:17] <imetallica> jockey-gtk on terminal
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> Leo13: bit of both
[06:17] <imetallica> or jockey-text
[06:18] <litropy> brb, trying jockey-text
[06:18] <Leo13> woow
[06:18] <Leo13> a bit inestable
[06:18] <Leo13> imetallica
[06:19] <skypce> hello
[06:19] <imetallica> Leo13, ?
[06:19] <Saiki> anyine IN HERE speak chinese?
[06:19] <Leo13> it would be  alot better
[06:19] <Leo13> if the anufacturer provides the drivers
[06:19] <skypce> i have a question, how can i trigger a sound when have a liferea notifiation?
[06:19] <skypce> notification sorry
[06:19] <skypce> i have a question, how can i trigger a sound when have a liferea notification?
[06:20] <Pitel> how can I set my messenger status to be automaticaly online after boot?
[06:20] <imetallica> Leo13, that's true... but not all manufacturers have good support for Linux. A good example who explode in the media recently is nVidia
[06:20] <imetallica> ATI is the one with the best support for Linux atm.
[06:21] <Leo13> really , you would think that nvidia
[06:21] <Leo13> would do a nice job on that
[06:21] <Leo13> then is gonna be pretty hard for users
[06:21] <Leo13> to make the change men
[06:21] <imetallica> I saw a e-mail from the mailing list about a kernel developer answering a question from an employee from nvidia
[06:22] <imetallica> it was hilarious
[06:23] <imetallica> Leo13, there you go -> http://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/ksummit-2012-discuss/2012-June/000304.html
[06:23] <Jihui_Choi> I wanna make a facebook app, but it requires https url. How can I make https connect on my ubuntu 12.04. I don't have any domain right now and I'm on dynamic ip.
[06:25] <imetallica> well good night everyone, just saw now that pass 3AM here LOL
[06:26] <Leo13> take care budd
[06:38] <mobhero> hi, when i give cmd "sudo chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers"
[06:39] <mobhero> its getting no valid sudoers sources found, quitting unable to initialize policy plugin. error, pls help me
[06:41] <piglit> i am thinking of buying a nas from synology a 112 is there some way to use cloud with that synology and ubuntu?
[06:43] <L3top> 0440
[06:44] <LiquidEdge> Okay, here's my output
[06:44] <LiquidEdge> http://pastebin.com/y8x5bcAq
[06:46] <LiquidEdge> Sorry, wrong chan
[06:46] <LiquidEdge> Can someone in #ubuntu-help invite me?
[06:49] <HungryMan> anyone know how I can get 3D acceleration working on Ubuntu 12.04 with FGLRX? I've never had an issue before but I just reformatted and suddenly it's giving me problems
[06:49] <qjaz> hi
[06:49] <DJones> LiquidEdge: I don't think #ubuntu-help is a support channel, looks to be an old channel thats no longer used
[06:49] <LiquidEdge> Ah, thanks.
[06:49] <qjaz> i wld like to setup a postfix+courier mail setup with my own dns on LAN...any good tutorials ??? i am new to linux n ubuntu...
[06:49] <DJones> If its ubuntu support/questions, this is the right channel
[06:50] <qjaz> i wld like to setup a postfix+courier mail setup with my own dns on LAN...any good tutorials ??? i am new to linux n ubuntu...
[06:50] <LiquidEdge> What's the help chan, then?
[06:50] <DJones> LiquidEdge: This is the main support channel for ubuntu
[06:50] <LiquidEdge> Okay, well, then I have questions.  :)
[06:50] <qjaz> yea sure...
[06:50] <LiquidEdge> I've got sound in audio, video, etc.  But nothing in Chrome when I play flash.
[06:51] <LiquidEdge> Youtube, etc
[06:52] <qjaz> i wld like to setup a postfix+courier mail setup with the my own dns on LAN...any good tutorials ??? i am new to linux n ubuntu...
[06:53] <qjaz> any1 help me ???
[06:54] <dominic_> qjaz: try this http://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Ubuntu_10.04
[06:54] <qjaz> thanx dominic
[06:55] <dominic_> dunno if they have updated tutorial for 12.04
[06:59] <skule> Update Manager reports an error like "Not all updates can be installed" I can then click cancel or "Partly upgrade", I am already at 12.04 and apt-get reports no errors
[07:08] <bradleyayers> i have ubuntu running in a VM, I added a network adapter while it's still on, is it possible to get the network adapter discovered without rebooting the vm?
[07:12] <skule> how come apt-get upgrade keep reporting that this package is kept back: "ia32-libs-multiarch:i386"
[07:12] <dominic_> test
[07:12] <UndiFineD> bradleyayers, I am not sure, but if you add an interface with e1000 driver, you might try modprobe e1000
[07:12] <wangchoufeng> what is wrong
[07:13] <bradleyayers> UndiFineD: thanks
[07:13] <wangchoufeng> what is Xchat?
[07:15] <gRAVIty__> need help with ethernet new to IRC. help please?
[07:16] <BlackDalek>   how do I copy and paste from the CLI? (I have no GUI running)
[07:17] <caf4926> try Ctrl + SHIFT + V
[07:17] <caf4926> to paste
[07:17] <BlackDalek> but how do I copy?
[07:17] <gRAVIty__> so we do get help on IRC :)
[07:18] <gRAVIty__> CTRL SHIFT C
[07:18] <caf4926> +C
[07:18] <BlackDalek> gRAVIty__ caf4926 that doesn't work from tty CLI
[07:19] <gRAVIty__> have you used your mouse?
[07:19] <caf4926> BlackDalek, what are you trying to do
[07:19] <BlackDalek> gRAVIty__: there is NO mouse. there is NO display manager/gui etc.
[07:19] <caf4926> you know about TAB to auto complete?
[07:20] <BlackDalek> I am trying to work out how to copy and paste text from the screen.
[07:20] <caf4926> BlackDalek, but why
[07:21] <BlackDalek> caf4926: incase there is something useful in dmesg output which I should copy and paste into here ;)
[07:22] <iceroot> skule: use "dist-upgrade" instead
[07:22] <caf4926> BlackDalek, you should send it to a txt file
[07:22] <gRAVIty__> been struggling with this for the past four days http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2010190
[07:22] <iceroot> skule: upgrade will never change dependencies, but dist-upgrade will, thats the reason why it is kept back
[07:23] <BlackDalek> caf4926: how? using pipe? something like "dmseg | filename.txt ? Is that right?
[07:24] <caf4926> BlackDalek, for example if you are working from your user login and you did lspci -nnk > info.txt
[07:24] <iceroot> BlackDalek: dmesg | grep searchstring > filename.txt   is the way i would go
[07:25] <caf4926> you get a file info.txt in your home
[07:25] <caf4926> yes
[07:25] <caf4926> I think so
[07:25] <gRAVIty__> @iceroot : can you help with ethernet problem?
[07:25] <iceroot> gRAVIty__: sorry i have a call now
[07:25] <BlackDalek> ok.. so dmesg > filename.txt would copy everything to a file?
[07:25] <iceroot> BlackDalek: yes
[07:25] <goddard> anyone tried a paid codec pack before?
[07:25] <gRAVIty__> sure i will wait
[07:26] <caf4926> BlackDalek, once you have your info it can be easier for you to boot a live cd or work from a second computer
[07:26] <gRAVIty__> @caf4926: waiting for your to be free :)
[07:27] <caf4926> gRAVIty__, come again
[07:27] <gRAVIty__> caf4926: been struggling with ethernet for the past four days http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2010190
[07:28] <gRAVIty__> have to use windows to IRC :(
[07:28] <caf4926> gRAVIty__, I use carl4926 in the forum
[07:29] <gRAVIty__> caf4926: great. should I send a pm there?
[07:29] <caf4926> gRAVIty__, let me look at the thread BRB
[07:29] <gRAVIty__> sure
[07:30] <BlackDalek> caf4926: isn't there some cli text file editor i could use to copy info rather that going to the trouble of booting a live session?
[07:32] <gRAVIty__> @BlackDalek- He is viewing a thread on ubuntuforums.org will take a few moments till he gets back
[07:32] <BlackDalek> no problem ;)
[07:33] <chicognu> What is the GUI name to configure the sources from where download software updates ?
[07:33] <caf4926> gRAVIty__, that's a puzzle for sure
[07:34] <gRAVIty__> lol.ok. anything which I can do?
[07:34] <gRAVIty__> looks like I am going to be stuck to windows for a while
[07:34] <caf4926> gRAVIty__, When you run 12.04 from the Live cd how is the network then?
[07:34] <gRAVIty__> same problems
[07:34] <gRAVIty__> when i run on live cd
[07:35] <caf4926> gRAVIty__, what about wireless?
[07:35] <gRAVIty__> i dont have a wifi router here :(
[07:35] <gRAVIty__> new connection. The old DSL router does not work with this
[07:35] <caf4926> gRAVIty__, thing is, hardwire should just work
[07:36] <Snowie> Hi All. Just me, or is googles chrome playing up on some pages on 12.04 for others as well. Has been fine for ages on 12.04, noticed it in last couple of weeks. any updates in this time for either that may affect it? Switching back to chromium seems to work fine
[07:36] <caf4926> gRAVIty__, it's almost unheard of for it not to
[07:36] <gRAVIty__> ya. i used several previous versions of ubuntu. did not have a  problem with ethernet
[07:36] <caf4926> BlackDalek, I can't really say, I don't know how anyway...
[07:37] <BlackDalek> ok
[07:37] <gRAVIty__> can you explain more about the problem so that i can dig more on google myself?
[07:37] <gRAVIty__> the problem is i dont even understand what to look for :P
[07:37] <caf4926> gRAVIty__, I'm not sure I do either
[07:37] <gRAVIty__> caf4926: Thanks for your time :)
[07:37] <caf4926> gRAVIty__, I'm not a network guru
[07:38] <gRAVIty__> can u suggest some one?
[07:38] <gRAVIty__> i think chilli is one
[07:38] <caf4926> gRAVIty__, one second
[07:38] <gRAVIty__> \sure
[07:39] <caf4926> gRAVIty__, http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=508533