[00:00] <Seveas> blazemore, absolutely
[00:00] <pwnsauce_> I'm having a sound issue on Hybryde Evolution
[00:00] <blazemore> I'll just do that then, at least I know how to use them when things break!
[00:00] <jrib> blazemore: pretty sure debian doesn't use upstart, best to ask #debian
[00:00] <pwnsauce_> Could I get some assistance with this
[00:00] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: Is that the little Dell machine?
[00:00] <pwnsauce_> blazemore: Its an alienware, so yeah
[00:00] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: Is it tiny?
[00:01] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: I mean, physically
[00:01] <pwnsauce_> blazemore: No, its huge, weighs like 10+ pounds
[00:01] <pwnsauce_> seriously
[00:01] <blazemore> Oh. I can maybe help anyway if you describe your issue in a little more detail
[00:01] <pwnsauce_> blazemore: Its an alienware mx17r3
[00:02] <pwnsauce_> blazemore: Ah, my thanks sir. I just installed hybryde evolution and I can't get the sound to work
[00:02] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: So what's the sound problem you're having?
[00:02] <dtcrshr> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1346544/
[00:02] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: Sorry, crossed wires :)
[00:02] <pwnsauce_> using ubuntu 12.04 precise
[00:03] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: Isn't Hybryde a distro?
[00:03] <pwnsauce_> blazemore:  yes
[00:03] <blazemore> And you can't get sound to work at all?
[00:03] <blazemore> Does sound work in normal Ubuntu on the same hardware?
[00:03] <walterwoj> Is YPOPs still active?  Is there a better substitute?
[00:04] <nostrum_> sorry I missed peoples input got a call, so let me ask again here and maybe get a few more responses... best google drive client for ubuntu right now is what?
[00:04] <almoxarife> nostrum_: the browser!
[00:04] <blazemore> walterwoj: The latest version of YPOPS was released on 10th of March 2009
[00:04] <pwnsauce_> blazemore: I used peppermint 2 os before this, and I had to configure the sound, but I had the support from the forums at peppermint.. very nice people btw, great distro pep2/pep3
[00:04] <blazemore> nostrum_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/insync-brings-google-drive-to-ubuntu
[00:05] <nostrum_> almoxarife: but I need it synced cause I don't trust google's server backup
[00:05] <walterwoj> blazemore: So I guess thats a no.
[00:05] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: Sadly I don't actually know about sound problems much
[00:05] <nostrum_> almoxarife: I wish they had rsync capabilities
[00:05] <pwnsauce_> blazemore:  No worries, thanks for asking and attempting
[00:05] <cyphase> gah, nautilus keeps sorting my home directory (and some other random directories i think) by modification date and in reversed order. anyone know how to fix this?
[00:05] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: I jumped on your issue because Dell make a PC called the "hybrid" which I have, and you have to install a specific package to get audio over HDMI. I thought that might have been related but it's not. Have you tried following the sound troubleshooting guide on the Wiki?
[00:06] <nostrum_> blazemore: have you used it before? did it work well and not mess up your drive or local storage?
[00:06] <blazemore> nostrum_: Never touched it :)
[00:06] <blazemore> nostrum_: I've heard good things about it though on Reddit and OMG!
[00:06] <almoxarife> nostrum_: you dont what? be for real, you dont trust google to backup?
[00:06] <nostrum_> blazemore: well then I'd argue you shouldn't recommend it :)
[00:06] <pwnsauce_> blazemore: If you could point me in the direction of someone or a page that could, I would be in your debt
[00:06] <walterwoj> Anyone know a good way (other than the browser) for getting mail from yahoo?
[00:06] <cyphase> walterwoj, hold on
[00:07] <blazemore> nostrum_: I didn't recommend it I just sent you the link in case you hadn't come across that one yet
[00:07] <cyphase> walterwoj, http://fetchyahoo.twizzler.org/
[00:07] <nostrum_> almoxarife: nope I don't trust anyone, plus I've had issues with google before losing files
[00:07] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: Let's do this
[00:07] <almoxarife> i would recommend insync, but i expect that after beta they will want $$$$$!!!!
[00:07] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: Open a terminal and run "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav"
[00:07] <almoxarife> nostrum_: good luck
[00:08] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: Do you hear anything? (I apologise if you get a file not found error)
[00:08] <MonkeyDust> pwnsauce_  or aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[00:08] <Jordan_U> dtcrshr: Do you know why you have an xfs partition for /tmp/?
[00:08] <pwnsauce_> blazemore:  No sound, but I recieved this as the repsonse
[00:08] <pwnsauce_> Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono
[00:08] <walterwoj> cyphase: Thanks I'll check it out.
[00:09] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/Alsamixer
[00:09] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: sorry, disregard that
[00:09] <pwnsauce_> yeah I was testing that earlier
[00:09] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[00:09] <pwnsauce_> blazemore:  Actually
[00:09] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: then run pavucontrol
[00:09] <pwnsauce_> blazemore:  I could use your help in figuring out where to put two lines of code
[00:10] <pwnsauce_> blazemore: In a config file
[00:10] <cyphase> walterwoj, no problem. it works well (though i haven't run it in a while)
[00:10] <dtcrshr> Jordan_U: yes. for kdenlive a xfs partition for tmp helps significantly on performance
[00:10] <pwnsauce_> blazemore:  Ran both of those
[00:10] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: Are you following some instructions? If so, link them here
[00:10] <blazemore> pwnsauce_: So we're both on the same page
[00:10] <SeducingOrange> I just installed ubuntu and decided to remove windows. I made a gparted live CD and removed the NTFS partitions. It finished (really quickly) and I rebooted. Instead of booting up ubuntu it says Intel UNDI, PXE-2.1 No bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key
[00:10] <Jordan_U> dtcrshr: Never mind, I have a guess at what happened. Are you looking for your music in ~/Music or ~/Música ?
[00:11] <blazemore> SeducingOrange: Did you actually install Ubuntu?
[00:11] <SeducingOrange> blazemore: Yeah. It was working fine
[00:11] <almoxarife> blazemore: pwnsauce_, i recommend running/install 'alsamixer' and insure that all 'mm' are cleared from 'outputs' first
[00:11] <dtcrshr> the /images, / music are just fine, the files were there
[00:11] <dtcrshr> the problem is the files that were on the desktop
[00:11] <SeducingOrange> blazemore: I am thinking that my hardrive failed and it is trying to boot from network but I am not sure
[00:11] <krababbel> SeducingOrange: did you move the ubuntu partition
[00:12] <SeducingOrange> krababbel: I resized it to fill up the disk
[00:12] <krababbel> SeducingOrange: did you move its start? then you need to reinstall grub
[00:12] <SeducingOrange> krababbel: No. Just resized it
[00:12] <krababbel> moving the start of a partition changes its ID.
[00:12] <dtcrshr> the user i use is mauro Jordan_U
[00:13] <SeducingOrange> krababbel: Are all of the files still there? I cant boot from a disc either...
[00:13] <Jordan_U> dtcrshr: That's not what I asked. It looks like all of your directories have been translated into Spanish.
[00:14] <dtcrshr> its portuguese
[00:14] <dtcrshr> when i first installed 10.10, i choosed portuguese also
[00:14] <SeducingOrange> krababbel: How do I go about reinstalling grub? I am really panicking here :(
[00:14] <Jordan_U> dtcrshr: OK, what directory are you looking for to find your "Desktop"?
[00:14] <m3rl0x> how would i make it so that another user other than root can cat /var/log/audit/audit.log
[00:15] <walterwoj> Has anyone tried to use gwibber with facebook?  I can't get mine to update,  I authorize it and it says success and then nothing...
[00:15] <Jordan_U> SeducingOrange: Can you boot from a LiveCD/USB?
[00:16] <SeducingOrange> Jordan_U: I tried to boot from the Ubuntu LiveCD and I just got a black screen
[00:16] <Jordan_U> !nomodeset | SeducingOrange
[00:16] <krababbel> SeducingOrange: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[00:16] <walterwoj> Also, how do you get a console open?  I can't find it...
[00:17] <SeducingOrange> Jordan_U: I booted before without any boot parameteres
[00:17] <krababbel> SeducingOrange: everything should be fine, you just changed the root partition ID, and grub doesn't know that automatically
[00:17] <m3rl0x> how would i make it so that another user other than root can cat /var/log/audit/audit.log
[00:17] <SeducingOrange> I thing that I am most concerned about is losing all of the files
[00:17] <SeducingOrange> krababbel: Okay. Thanks a lot for the help :)
[00:17] <dtcrshr> iv tried the "area de trabalho"
[00:18] <krababbel> SeducingOrange: read the link, use an ubuntu live cd to reinstall grub2 :)
[00:18] <dtcrshr> which is desktop into portuguese
[00:18] <SeducingOrange>  krababbel: Okay. The problem is is that I cant boot a livecd tho.  When I booted the disc to install and when I booted the grub disc I didnt need a special boot parameter
[00:19] <loculinux> hi
[00:19] <jrib> dtcrshr: could you pastebin ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs?  Also, I hope you find your files, but whether or not you do, you should realize how important it is to have backups.  Everyone has this moment, where they get a sinking feeling in their gut because they may have just lost some files forever and have no backups.  The smart ones, only have this feeling one time :)
[00:19] <krababbel> SeducingOrange: try the parameter, sometimes PCs do weird things, like suddenly not working the same way they did 5 minutes before
[00:20] <johalfar> hey all
[00:20] <krababbel> SeducingOrange: so, yes just try to boot the install cd again
[00:20] <SeducingOrange> krababbel: Okay. Ill try. Ill come back in an hour or so if I need help again :)
[00:20] <johalfar> is there anybody here from Costa Rica?
[00:21] <LoneWlf> every time I tell my machine to reboot.. it crashes
[00:21] <YokoBR> hey guys, can't enable wireless or install ati driver, says that can't find kernel header or source
[00:22] <dtcrshr> i know. the bad think is that this is a friends notebook. I myself installed ubuntu 10.10 about an year ago. since on the update manager it asked that the ubuntu version he was using, i took it to update here on the university. I only did was login into my user, i didnt even entered his mauro user, and updated via the graphical environment. after that, i got the notebook back to him, but his desktop files are gone. Im into a bad situation, si
[00:22] <dtcrshr> nce I didnt realize i had to backup his files only because of a dist upgrade, never imagined such a caveat this horribly managed to update and delete desktop files
[00:22] <dtcrshr> now its my fault. he complains that i had never had to update if i lost his job
[00:22] <LoneWlf> this is no good, I don't have a remote console or remote rebooter switch, I need to fix this... its dying at swapper, has a kernel panic, right after drives unmount
[00:22] <LoneWlf> has anyone seen this before?
[00:22] <jValentin1> any tips on proper way to mount a windows shared folder in my ubuntu 21.04 running in a vmware box? been trying for a couple of days with no luck
[00:22] <jrib> dtcrshr: so the "mauro" user is the one whose files are missing?
[00:22] <dtcrshr> yes
[00:23] <dtcrshr> i created my name just to use when iv installed, no big deal
[00:23] <dtcrshr> I clearly remember his desktop when he was working
[00:23] <jrib> dtcrshr: what's one file you know for sure is missing?
[00:23] <dtcrshr> some icons, shortcuts, some files, folders
[00:24] <dtcrshr> for instance a video - m2u00903
[00:24] <YokoBR> please guys, i can't activate any driver on jockey http://pastebin.com/dt20Xpva
[00:24] <jrib> dtcrshr: because I think at some point there was a switch from using ~/Desktop for downloads to ~/Downloads.  Are you sure that his files aren't in ~/Downloads (or the translated version)?
[00:24] <dtcrshr> dont remember the extension
[00:24] <dtcrshr> download word isnt translated to the portuguese distros
[00:24] <dtcrshr> we brasilians just eat up the english language without complaining :D
[00:24] <jrib> !who | dtcrshr
[00:25]  * PoolShark_ returns
[00:25] <k1l_> YokoBR: copy the whole errormsg (if its more than a line please into a pastebin) and show it to us.
[00:25] <YokoBR> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/dt20Xpva
[00:25] <k1l_> YokoBR: and tell us what ubuntu you are using, what kernel, what did you modify etc
[00:26] <YokoBR> k1l_, my life went into a mess when i upgraded to ubuntu 12.04
[00:26] <YokoBR> and my kernel is 3.2.6
[00:27] <k1l_> YokoBR: that is no ubuntu kernel
[00:27] <escott> jValentin1, bridged or NAT
[00:28] <dwarder> is there a gui utility to configure redshift?
[00:28] <dwarder> not this toggle thingie
[00:28] <dtcrshr> jrib: on the XDG_DESKTOP-DIR="$HOME/Area de Trabalho"
[00:28] <jrib> dtcrshr: just pastebin the whole file
[00:29] <dtcrshr> its about 10 lines, but im accessing it via another computer here, via team viewer, do you really need the whole file?
[00:29] <YokoBR> k1l_ but system monitor says Ubuntu Release 12.04 (precise) 64-bit Kernel Linux 3.2.6
[00:30] <jrib> dtcrshr: use the command line program "pastebinit" if it's easier for you
[00:30] <dtcrshr> jrib: he confirmed a folder name with certain: 240309
[00:30] <mspencer>  When I run pbuilder-dist, I'm getting file not found errors when it tries to download some needed packages. What can I do to fix this?
[00:30] <dtcrshr> hm sure think, ill do that[
[00:31] <k1l_> YokoBR: as you can see: 12.04 got only the 3.2.0- kernels http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=precise&searchon=names&keywords=linux-image
[00:31] <mspencer> My command I'm running is 'pbuilder-dist raring build ../apport_2.6.2-0ubuntu3.dsc'
[00:32] <k1l_> YokoBR: so what ubuntu is it? (or is it a ubuntu spinoff?), or did you manually install a kernel. or do you have a PPA active which got other kernels,....
[00:32] <YokoBR> the third option, i have backtrack ppa
[00:33] <YokoBR> k1l_, backtrack ppa must have installed this kernel..
[00:33] <k1l_> YokoBR: ok, then ask the backtrack guys what they are doing wrong. its not an ubuntu problem
[00:33] <YokoBR> ok, sorry then, dude
[00:34] <dtcrshr> jrib: can you help me with the pastebinit sintaxe?
[00:34] <k1l_> or use ppa-purge to get rid of that ppa. a standard ubuntu should do
[00:34] <dtcrshr> iv tryed pastebinit cat ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[00:35] <jrib> dtcrshr: pastebinit FILE
[00:36] <dtcrshr> jrib: paste.ubuntu.com/1346612
[00:37] <SeducingOrange> I was able to boot into a root console for the ubuntu partition. How do I rescue it?
[00:38] <walterwoj> How do you find a console?
[00:39] <SeducingOrange> walterwoj: What I put in a grub LiveCD and rescued it. I got as far as console and now I do not know what to do
[00:39] <d1gital> is there some app that'll give me cool scratchpad functionality like the one found in ion3/notion?
[00:40] <SeducingOrange> Please help me. I have no clue what to do. Someone said that the partition ID changed... How do I set it back?
[00:40] <trism> mspencer: I would guess pbuilder-dist raring update; first
[00:40] <SeducingOrange> I got into a root console on it
[00:40] <ghostconn> is there a flstudio alternative for ubuntu 2.04
[00:41] <mspencer> trism: Okay, I'll try that
[00:41] <walterwoj> SeducingOrange: Sorry I can't help you,  I know less about this than you do... I'm trying to find out how to OPEN a console in this newfangled interface (GRRRRRR!)
[00:41] <d1gital> ghostconn: lmms is.. unfinished.  ardour is cool, but it's a little different from fl.
[00:42] <trism> walterwoj: ctrl+alt+t?
[00:42] <ghostconn> d1gital : thanks buddy :)
[00:42] <breiak> I just installed a fresh copy of Ubuntu for the first time, everything seems to be working fine except the sound. for some reason theres no audio at all.
[00:42] <SeducingOrange> walterwoj: Oh. I can help you with that. Press dash home in the top left corner then type Terminal, after that eiher click it or drag it to your side bar. You can also type C-M t
[00:42] <walterwoj> trism: Thanks!
[00:42] <dauntless> SeducingOrange: what changed?
[00:42] <breiak> Any suggestions?
[00:43] <SeducingOrange> dauntless: I got into a root console on the ubuntu partition. How do I change back the boot id?
[00:43] <walterwoj> SeducingOrange: Thank you too!
[00:43] <thanigai> i am having wifi adhoc  isuue
[00:43] <dauntless> SeducingOrange: What I'm asking is what changed that made this happen?
[00:43] <SeducingOrange> walterwoj: no problem
[00:44] <SeducingOrange> dauntless: I booted a grub live CD and booted my ubuntu partition from that. How do I go about reinstalling grub and fixing X?
[00:45] <SeducingOrange> oh wait. nevermind, grub-install
[00:45] <SeducingOrange> is this right?
[00:45] <breiak> Can anyone help me setup my sound?
[00:46] <dauntless> SeducingOrange: Everyone sets up partitioning differently …. I set up a 500MB ext2 primary partition and install grub to that, it depends on how you set things up in the first place
[00:46] <breiak> ?
[00:46] <dauntless> SeducingOrange: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repairrestorereinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd/
[00:46] <SeducingOrange> dauntless: Thanks a lot :D
[00:47] <SeducingOrange> dauntless: After that, will X be already setup?
[00:47] <ghostconn> is there any software for ubuntu 12.04 to use my Novation Launchpad Ableton Live Controller?
[00:47] <ghostconn> i hope so or im gunna be saddd
[00:48] <dauntless> SeducingOrange: its really nothing, just googled that, I have done this before, but i setup a partition just for this purpose -- re: X I am not sure. Grub just says which partition to boot from I think
[00:48] <ryan_> is the easiest way to make your own live cd/distro by virtual machine? and if so what program do you use to make the live cd etc?
[00:48] <SeducingOrange> dauntless: Ok. X should be easy to setup after that. I did come from Arch Linux after all!
[00:48] <breiak> anyone please?
[00:48] <dauntless> SeducingOrange: It should go back to normal if nothing destructive happened prior to the event...
[00:50] <SeducingOrange> dauntless: Is resizing ubuntu ad deleting windows partitions destructive? All data seems to be intact however
[00:50] <dauntless> SeducingOrange: That is what I was trying to determine before -- hence the question "what happened?" usually you don't have grub issues unless some destructive event occurs, i.e. file or disk corruption
[00:50] <breiak> i dont have any sound what do I do?
[00:50] <SeducingOrange> dauntless: Yeah
[00:50] <dtcrshr> jrib: any clues?
[00:50] <jrib> dtcrshr: no
[00:51] <SeducingOrange> dauntless: Thanks a lot for your help, comrade. I will see you on the other side!
[00:51] <dauntless> SeducingOrange: IMHO if you have a backup, you should just format C: you know…
[00:51] <dauntless> SeducingOrange: best of luck
[00:52] <SeducingOrange> dauntless: Didnt have one. Was setting up PC for a old laptop for my even older Aunt. I really appreciate your helo :) see ya around!
[00:52] <ghostconn> lmms is horrible lol
[00:53] <ghostconn> where is the heart of producing with linux? im guessing there is no equivalent software such as fl studio or ableton ? I heard that linux had a ton lol
[00:56] <jValentin1> escott: bridged, I read that I needed to use bridged so I switched to that
[00:56] <escott> jValentin1, should make your life easier
[00:58] <jValentin1> escott: it doesn't seem to help
[00:58] <escott> jValentin1, can the windows machine ping the vm
[00:59] <dtcrshr> ghostconn: i use kxstudio. ardour for DAW, rosegarden or mixxx to build some sequences
[00:59] <dtcrshr> hidrogen for drumssssssss
[00:59] <dtcrshr> many others. if you have a nice interface you should try using a rt kernel also
[00:59] <jValentin1> escott:  just did a succesful ping
[01:00] <escott> jValentin1, so what have your tried to set up to mount?
[01:00] <NaN123> :P
[01:00] <ghostconn> ill try it out thanks dtcrshr
[01:00] <jValentin1> escott:  first, pmount /media/win-work/ work, but that didn't work (no pun intended)
[01:00] <breiak> i dont have any sound what do I do?
[01:00] <WHAT_UP> what does while [ - e /proc/1234 ] actually do? what is the -e ?
[01:00] <ghostconn> is there a good piano rool that I can use my ableton Live Controller
[01:01] <escott> jValentin1, i dont know pmount does
[01:01] <jValentin1> hmm, got that off the web, maybe I used the wrong method
[01:01] <escott> WHAT_UP, checks for the existence of that folder (and no space between - and e) its also a dead stupid thing to put in a script
[01:02] <WHAT_UP> escott: why's it stupid?
[01:02] <minas> when I saw some videos about 12.10 beta, there was an icon at the top right corner where you could see ubuntu one synchronization progress. However, after I upgraded to 12.10 I don't see it. Do I have to install it somehow?
[01:02] <escott> WHAT_UP, nothing would guarantee the process PID is 1234
[01:03] <WHAT_UP> escott: right, i put that in here because i didn't think you'd all care about seeing %d s
[01:04] <escott> jValentin1, can you get to stuff with smb://ipaddress in nautilus
[01:05] <justaneewbie> hey ppl
[01:05] <justaneewbie>  i need some help with watt os
[01:06] <WHAT_UP> justaneewbie: this channel doesn't support offshoots of ubuntu
[01:07] <justaneewbie> any body can help me with my watt os distro ?
[01:07] <breiak> can anyone tell me how to get my sound to work on ubuntu please?
[01:08] <justaneewbie> im havving soome sort of problems intsalling apps on watt os r6
[01:08] <Ben64> !details | breiak
[01:08] <jValentin1> escott: yes, that worked fine from within nautilus, providing the workgroup, username and pw
[01:08] <Seveas> justaneewbie, find the watt os support please (hint: it's not here)
[01:09] <escott> jValentin1, then its just cause your pmount command isn't working. its not a networking issue
[01:09] <OerHeks> justaneewbie, we don't support forks, better ask @ http://www.planetwatt.com/chat
[01:09] <Seveas> jValentin1, if you visit it in nautilus, you can then also see it in ~/.gvfs/
[01:10] <sneakyimp_> !ide
[01:11] <jValentin1> Seveas: thanks for that, it should help
[01:11] <jValentin1> but was also trying to make this a permanent share
[01:12] <sneakyimp_> i'm using Ubuntu 11.10. Can anyone tell me whether I can use an IDE for KDE or GNOME ?
[01:12] <jValentin1> escott: I realized my understanding of pmount is wrong and I probably entered it wrong
[01:13] <breiak> I have a problem with my audio its not working at all, I'm running 12.10, This is my first linux desktop so I dont know how to begin.
[01:13] <Seveas> jValentin1, pmount isn't the right thing to do for permanent shares. You'll need to add it to /etc/fstab as a cifs mount
[01:13] <jValentin1> I think pmount is for mounting removable devices as normal user, but maybe I don't need that
[01:14] <Seveas> jValentin1, correct, that's what pmount was for
[01:14] <sneakyimp_> breiak, you should probably make sure you have the speakers plugged into the right output first of all
[01:14] <dauntless> breiak: what make model computer,
[01:15] <breiak> sneakyimp_, They are - everything sounds perfectly fine in windows
[01:15] <willdabeast> Anybody know why I don't have the option for 3D mode on the login screen? I am using the correct video card driver
[01:15] <breiak> dauntless, its an Intel pc with an onboard soundcard.
[01:15] <jValentin1> Seveas, I also tried modifying fstab and then a new device appears in nautilus, but when I click on it the message comes up "unable to mount"
[01:16] <dauntless> break, so was it working BEFORE you installed 12.10
[01:16] <sneakyimp_> breiak, so everything sounds good and without changing any connections you boot into ubuntu and no audio?
[01:16] <Seveas> jValentin1, then the line in /etc/fstab was wrong, or you didn't do 'mount -a' after adding it
[01:16] <breiak> sneakyimp_, exactly.
[01:17] <PoolShark_> I wonder if Emery ever got vidalia workinfg
[01:17] <dauntless> breiak, do you happen to know what make/nodel of your mobo?
[01:17] <PoolShark_> heh
[01:17] <breiak> dauntless, I really have no idea what a mobo is.
[01:17] <dauntless> breiak: motherboard
[01:17] <breiak> Hmm, not sure.
[01:17] <breiak> How do I find that out?
[01:18] <sneakyimp_> breiak, mobo=motherboard --
[01:18] <kostkon> breiak, did you try to setup your sound by selecting system settings and then sound.
[01:18] <breiak> I did try to play with that for a bit kostkon , with no success.
[01:18] <dauntless> breiak: sudo dmidecode | more
[01:19] <Seveas> jValentin1, a correct cifs mount line looks like this: //<IP_ADDRESS>/Sharename/Folder	/path/to/local/folder	cifs	username=myuser,password=mypass,soft,uid=1000,file_mode=0600,dir_mode=0700	0 0
[01:20] <dauntless> breiak: assuming you know to run that from a terminal
[01:20] <breiak> dauntless, I do: http://pastebin.com/Bd2rmVq2
[01:20] <jValentin1> Seveas:  ok, I found something different (via google):
[01:20] <jValentin1> .host:/work    /media/win-work     vmhgfs  rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[01:21] <sneakyimp_> !ide
[01:21] <Seveas> jValentin1, that's rather wrong for a samba/cifs share. Try mine
[01:21] <jValentin1> Seveas: in previous versions of Ubuntu, I did not need to add my username/pw to fstab
[01:21] <sneakyimp_> !ide
[01:22] <Seveas> jValentin1, if the share doesn't require authentication you don't need to add that
[01:22] <jValentin1> is there another way to mount just using the shares I added to my vmware box?
[01:22] <breiak> dauntless, does that help?
[01:22] <OerHeks> sneakyimp_, scroll back, you allready have the answer from ubottu
[01:22] <dauntless> breiak: not exactly what we wanted,  -- the thing is, 12.10 is very recent and it _should_ work, but if for some weird reason the kernel doesn't support the audio chipset that could be your problem
[01:23] <sneakyimp_> oerheks: thx.  flood control i'm guessing
[01:23] <dauntless> breiak: have you ever had linux on this box with audio working?
[01:23] <breiak> yea
[01:23] <yogurtdog> Hey, does anyone know if you can setup software RAID1 from 12.04 LTS? The wiki on ubuntu.com is outdated (9.10)
[01:23] <breiak> it was ubuntu 10 something
[01:23] <dauntless> breiak: what release?
[01:24] <breiak> dauntless, I think 10.10
[01:24] <dwarder> redshift rule for my old notebook
[01:26] <dauntless> breiak: sounds like 12.10 might have an issue, or you don't have the proper driver installed or config is messed up
[01:26] <sneakyimp_> can anyone tell me if qtcreator supports development of PHP or Java code?
[01:27] <jValentin1> I remember older versions of ubuntu didn't require mounting  via samba,  so I really would like to find those methods again
[01:27] <kostkon> breiak, could you give in a terminal:  aplay -l
[01:27] <escott> jValentin1, CIFS
[01:28] <breiak> kostkon, http://pastebin.com/1NWM7P1u
[01:29] <kostkon> breiak, try again to setup your sound. try all the possible combinations of devices, connectors, etc. also check the volume levels.
[01:29] <dauntless> breiak: when you did the dmidecode, did you find a string with motherboard? you are looking for a Motherboard model
[01:30] <breiak> dauntless, I pastebinned everything that was there, that was it :/
[01:32] <breiak> kostkon, I cant get it to work
[01:32] <kostkon> breiak, what do you mean
[01:32] <breiak> kostkon, I literally tried every combination that was there
[01:33] <kostkon> breiak, how are you testing it?
[01:33] <dauntless> breiak: this might be of help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/25430/audio-not-working
[01:33] <breiak> kostkon, using the test button.
[01:34] <kostkon> breiak, test button?
[01:34] <dauntless> breiak: also, have you tried headphones? I know it might seem counterintuitive.
[01:34] <kostkon> breiak, try playing an audio file
[01:36] <breiak> i tried it
[01:38] <kostkon> breiak, ok, open a terminal and give: alsamixer
[01:39] <kostkon> breiak, did it run?
[01:39] <breiak> yes
[01:41] <kostkon> breiak, press F5 and then check all the volume levels and switches, if there are any
[01:41] <diamonds> trying to fix my openwrt router, attempting to eliminate the possibility that I have a networking issue with ubuntu
[01:41] <diamonds> I have the router in debug/reset mode, and have been told to connect & telnet to it
[01:42] <diamonds> I plug it to the computer and the computer sees a "Wired connection 1" but try as it might it can't seem to connect
[01:43] <breiak> kostkon, what do you mean by check them? check them for what?
[01:43] <diamonds> I've tried restarting the networking service
[01:43] <diamonds> ifconfig does not show me a ipv4 address for eth0
[01:43] <kostkon> breiak, just increase all of them to 100%
[01:43] <kostkon> breiak, just to be sure
[01:44] <breiak> ok done kostkon
[01:45] <kostkon> breiak, also try to unmute everything
[01:47] <terran42> This comment has also been logged lol
[01:49]  * n0sq wonders when the developers are going to fix these IM problems
[01:52] <IHAXEX1337> hello everyone
[01:52] <spaceneedle> Re:Ubuntu Tweak--- I just got a  not enough memory error.  Weird. Tweak has been wonky  for me lately.
[01:52] <IHAXEX1337> how could i create a bootable usb of pinguy os 12.04
[01:52] <IHAXEX1337> ???
[01:55] <ghostconn> i cant get my netgear wpn111 usb wireless working... I have tried installing the .inf file using windows wireless drivers and it dose show that hardware is present but under network connections I get no signal
[01:55] <ghostconn> please help me
[01:55] <IHAXEX1337> how could i create a bootable usb drive of pinguy os 12.04 ????
[01:57] <ghostconn> IHAXEX1337  :     http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[01:57] <ghostconn> that should point you in the right direction
[01:58] <IHAXEX1337> thanks ghostconn :)
[01:58] <ghostconn> np
[01:58] <john_doe_jr> I've converted a pdf to html but I don't like the line wrapping or the font..can anyone suggest what to do about that?
[01:58] <IHAXEX1337> im actually on xubuntu thou :(
[01:59] <ghostconn> IHAXEX1377 :         http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[02:00] <ghostconn> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1918318
[02:00] <ghostconn> :)
[02:01] <OerHeks> john_doe_jr, perhaps use a html editor
[02:01] <IHAXEX1337> thank you much much much better :) :)
[02:01] <ghostconn> sudo apt-get isntall UNetbootin
[02:01] <kostkon> john_doe_jr, open the css file, or if it is embedded in the html, the html file and search for the text-align css property. more info here http://www.w3schools.com/cssref/pr_text_text-align.asp for example
[02:01] <ghostconn> type that command into a termianl
[02:02] <ghostconn> i hope that helped
[02:03] <john_doe_jr> kostkon: I'm using pdftohtml program …can I do that from the command line so that the default font is larger so I won't have to edit the text-align
[02:03] <kostkon> john_doe_jr, no idea :(
[02:03] <kostkon> john_doe_jr, try reading its manual, if it has one:  man pdftohtml
[02:04] <john_doe_jr> kostkon: I did read the manual
[02:05] <kostkon> john_doe_jr, ok
[02:05] <IHAXEX1337> i have question thou i have just downloaded from somewhere and it is a linux executable file but it says that there is no program that can run that type of file ???
[02:05] <dwarder> how do i make netbeans menu font smaller?
[02:05] <dwarder> and dir tree
[02:06] <dwarder> 7.2
[02:06] <IHAXEX1337> NVM thanks guys
[02:07] <diamonds> what does it mean "networking stop/waiting" as output from service networking status
[02:08] <diamonds> networking shows as enabled in Unity
[02:09] <IHAXEX1337> goodbye
[02:10] <Chaterz> someone here know about Apache ? tnx
[02:10] <OerHeks> Chaterz, just ask the real question and find out?
[02:11] <Chaterz> what can i do with Apache,tnx
[02:11] <xangua> ...
[02:11] <vn> hi, how can I kill a process that doesnt bulge with a kill -9, without rebooting?  I think it's because I killed the screen window without terminating a script.sh &
[02:11] <dwarder> in there a way to add font size(besides normal small large) to universal access panel?
[02:12] <dwarder> i need something between small and normal
[02:13] <ghostconn> can someone help me get my netgear usb wpn111 working
[02:13] <Chaterz> OerHeks, ??
[02:13] <OerHeks> Chaterz, apache is a HTTP or webServer
[02:14] <dauntless> vn: assuming you used sudo?
[02:14] <Chaterz> if i have two machines and internet, i can do a britge with a apage to share files betwen both machines ?
[02:14] <Chaterz> with Apache*
[02:15] <OerHeks> Chaterz, i would use NFS or samba to share files, not apache
[02:16] <Chaterz> why not Apache ?
[02:17] <dauntless> Chaterz: are the two machines in different places?
[02:17] <Chaterz> dauntless, not exactly ,same place.
[02:18] <Chaterz> OerHeks, i need to find something easy to configure and for machines in different places
[02:18] <dauntless> chaterz: ok, are they on the same network or on different networks?
[02:18] <dauntless> the easier way to use files from different places is to use dropbox
[02:19] <dauntless> but is depends on what you are trying to do
[02:19] <Chaterz> same wifi network,two laps. for example.
[02:19] <dauntless> ok, so what exactly are you trying to do?
[02:19] <stoneguy> msg nickserv identify hznhyrejknzs
[02:19] <Chaterz> dauntless, then apache or samba is for what ¿?
[02:19] <dauntless> where's the "/" ;P
[02:20] <dauntless> what OS are the two computers running
[02:20] <ghostconn> i cant get my netgear wpn111 usb wireless working... I have tried installing the .inf file using windows wireless drivers and it dose show that hardware is present but under network connections I get no signal
[02:21] <OerHeks> !samba | Chaterz
[02:21] <ghostconn> i cant get my netgear wpn111 usb wireless working... I have tried installing the .inf file using windows wireless drivers and it dose show that hardware is present but under network connections I get no signal
[02:21] <Chaterz> dauntless, linux and linux
[02:21] <dauntless> Chaterz: there are a lot of ways to do this -- in very simple words say what you are trying to do… share files? share a webpage? share movies?
[02:22] <dauntless> samba is file sharing for windows, afp is for macs, nfs is sun's implementation of this
[02:23] <Chaterz> dauntless, have u got examples? cuz im a bit confused atm.
[02:23] <dauntless> again, it depends on what you are trying to do
[02:23] <Chaterz> essential share files machine to machine
[02:23] <OerHeks> dauntless, samba is not windows-only
[02:23] <Chaterz> but maybe alocate files in a cloud with authentication,im not sure.
[02:23] <dauntless> are you trying to share a single file once? or have a file server that allows users to save files to and retrieve them
[02:24] <dauntless> OerHeks, true
[02:24] <Chaterz> dauntless, the second option with users
[02:24] <OerHeks> Chaterz, use dropbox or ubuntu-one, i prefer, so the host does not need to be online.
[02:24] <dauntless> ok, are all the users behind the same firewall (as in a the same location with the same general network)?
[02:24] <Chaterz> i want the host online is awnsome.
[02:25] <Chaterz> dauntless, nop.
[02:25] <dauntless> so there are in different places, yes?
[02:25] <dauntless> *they
[02:25] <Chaterz> yes. but i talk build a server i guess
[02:26] <dauntless> ok, how many files? large files as in movies or lots of pics
[02:26] <Chaterz> pics ,and txt files mostly
[02:26] <dauntless> how many users?
[02:27] <Chaterz> private, maybe two
[02:27] <dauntless> ok
[02:27] <dauntless> so the best option is dropbox
[02:27] <Chaterz> it's dropbox like 4shared or 2shared ?
[02:27] <Programmer_> no
[02:27] <dauntless> i have an account with them that is 200GB, but you can get an account that is 2GB for free
[02:28] <dauntless> You need to set it up on each individual machine and it syncs between them
[02:28] <Chaterz> doesnt like dropbox
[02:28] <dauntless> if you want on demand downloads, then you can set it up on one box and give the other machine access to a shared folder via a web interface
[02:28] <Chaterz> i want something with server and files to configure. like ftpd
[02:28] <dauntless> then get a VPS and setup ftp
[02:29] <dauntless> or an EC2 instance
[02:29] <dauntless> or a dedicated server
[02:29] <Chaterz> i cant use apache or Mysql ?
[02:29] <XiaolinDraconis> how can i adjust the speed of the numpad mouse emulation
[02:30] <mitch|mobile> o-o
[02:31] <Chaterz> samba for share files linux to linux
[02:31] <dauntless> chaterz: get a clear idea of what you want, you cant just throw out terms like mysql and apache. You have to have an idea of what you want to do, and a plan to make it happen. setting up an ftp server or a http frontend for a few files between two people is silly
[02:31] <dauntless> just use dropbox
[02:32] <dauntless> dropbox works very well, i use it hundreds of times a day
[02:32] <Chaterz> dauntless, my upload speed is shit, maybe with a server like samba i can share files fastly betwen machines.
[02:32] <CuriousPostulate> I've got a question regarding GPG.  I have gpg-agent running, and "use-agent" in my gpg.conf file.  I don't have a gpg-agent.conf file, so I created one.  Will gpg-agent read from there or is there some other configuration file?
[02:32] <dauntless> ok, well you said they WERE not in the same building
[02:32] <CuriousPostulate> Also, is this better asked in a different channel?
[02:32] <OerHeks> XiaolinDraconis, maybe this page is up2date, i can't check, running kubuntu >>http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/stable/dtconfig-mousekeys.html
[02:33] <Chaterz> i put an example.
[02:33] <CuriousPostulate> One more thing, I can't find out where gpg-agent is started... any ideas?
[02:33] <dauntless> chaterz: http://thanhsiang.org/faqing/node/114
[02:34] <Chaterz> tnx, i know i need to read more.
[02:34] <ariane5> hi :) where i find freenode list room ?
[02:34] <mspencer> Where is a good place to ask Ubuntu developers for an opinion on how a new feature/bug fix should work?
[02:35] <OerHeks> !alis | ariane5
[02:35] <XiaolinDraconis> OerHeks, thanks for looking, but those instructions dont apply to the keyboard settings in 12.04
[02:35] <Chaterz> dauntless, using a virtual machine ssh works fine ?
[02:35] <Chaterz> or have a difficult ?
[02:36] <lix> Hi. I have an issue with tar. Maybe somebody can help? - Is it possible that wildcard does not work in combination of "-C" option?
[02:36] <dauntless> chaterz: a vm is the same thing, it depends on your network settings and how they are setup… bridged mode should be fine
[02:36] <lix> (e.g. tar -C ~/directory test.tar.gz *.sql)
[02:36] <MonolithImmortal> ohai
[02:37] <Chaterz> vm,same building , ssh should work ?
[02:37] <lix> correction: (e.g. tar -C ~/directory -cvzf test.tar.gz *.sql)
[02:37] <MonolithImmortal> wuts goin on in here?
[02:37] <Chaterz> what bridged mode are u talking ?
[02:38] <kimphill_> I've just upgraded to 12.10 and am looking at an amazon button going wth
[02:38] <Chaterz> sorry if im disturbing. i'll move to other chan.
[02:38] <OerHeks> lix, try tar -cvzf test.tar.gz ~/directory/*.sql
[02:39] <Guest3221> question: i have a 13" 2009 macbook with 2gb ram, 2.26 ghz intel core 2 duo.  i want to install ubuntu, but am worried my computer won't handle it well. OSX currently runs semi-decently, with slow loading times and occasional lag.  do you think ubuntu will be better, the same, or worse?
[02:39] <timothyja> Guest3221 hi
[02:39] <lix> OerHeks: thanks. - yes that works but then the directory is included in the archive, which I want to avoid...
[02:39] <kimphill_> Guest3221, better.  I'm running it on my 5 year old macbook pro - still decent speed (and I'm picky)
[02:39] <Cong> something is wrong with my ubuntu. dialog boxes don't appear centered. it's like their parent window is the active one.
[02:39] <MonolithImmortal> Guest3221, If you want to install Ubuntu, I'd recommend installing an LTS
[02:40] <lix> OerHeks: I need it for a backup script and dont want the directories included into the tar archive, but only the files (therefore wildcard)
[02:40] <MonolithImmortal> 12.10 is more resourse hungery than 12.04
[02:40] <MonolithImmortal> and less stable
[02:40] <mysticalzero> hey guys. just a question about the workings of dnsmasq. i've read about dnsmasq being used a dns cache and listens on the loopback adapter address. the loopback adapter is then used by the resolver. the real dns lookup is performed by dnsmasq by looking the actual dns server address in /var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf. what's puzzling to me is the contents of my conf file is empty but resolving still works. if it's empty then
[02:40] <mysticalzero> how does dnsmasq know the address of the dns servers?
[02:40] <OerHeks> lix, oke, the cd /to/the/directory/ first, then tar  -cvzf /path/to/store/the/tar/test.tar.gz *.sql
[02:40] <lix> OerHeks: sure. I was thinking of that. It's just not that elegant :)
[02:41] <Guest3221> got it, thanks
[02:41] <MonolithImmortal> So, any of you watch My Little Pony?
[02:41] <InFlames> Hello, I seem to have messed up my display drivers, can someone help? nvidia 9300 GE, ubuntu 12.10
[02:41] <lix> OerHeks: Thanks
[02:41] <InFlames> i installed x-swat's nvidia-current-updates
[02:42] <lix> OerHeks: Do you think the "issue" is worth a bug report? Cause actually I think tar should be able to handle that ...
[02:42] <fellayaboy> his it possible to resume an ftp fownload
[02:42] <fellayaboy> from the terminal
[02:42] <kimphill_> fellayaboy, wget -c (for 'continue')
[02:42] <lix> fellaboy: wget can handle a resume
[02:43] <lix> fellaboy: as kimphill just said
[02:43] <OerHeks> lix check man tar ( i didn't find any solution for that)
[02:44] <lix> OerHeks: I did. the option -C works fine using either ./ or the full filename. - But (aparently) no wildcards in combination with the option "-C"
[02:45] <stoneguy> whois stoneguy
[02:46] <Cong> it's you silly
[02:46] <InFlames> heh
[02:46] <lix> OerHeks: I just like to keep my shell-scripts as short/elegant as possible. So I am wondering if its worth a bug report...
[02:46] <se23> i need a help...
[02:46] <OerHeks> lix  tar -cvzf test.tar.gz -C ~/directory/ *.sql  perhaps ?
[02:46] <lix> se23: shoot
[02:46] <dauntless> lix: not sure if this is helpful http://docstore.mik.ua/orelly/unix3/upt/ch38_10.htm what version of tar is it?
[02:47] <lix> OerHeks: checked that as well.... - without success
[02:47] <lix> dauntless: thanks! will check that
[02:47] <se23> i need some help...
[02:47] <dauntless> lix: seems like non GNU version is not fond of *
[02:47] <lix> dauntless: indeed
[02:48] <OerHeks> !ask | se23
[02:48] <lix> se23: what's your issue?
[02:48] <Cong> he's trying to help you, lix
[02:48] <se23> can i upgrade from natty (10.04) directly to qq (12.10) ?
[02:48] <OerHeks> se24 yes
[02:48] <PoolShark_> probably
[02:49] <OerHeks> !upgrade
[02:49] <Jordan_U> se23: No, you need to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04, then to 12.10.
[02:49] <lix> se23: sure. that should work
[02:49] <PoolShark_> do-release-upgrade
[02:49] <zykotick9> se23: 10.04 is lucid BTW
[02:49] <se23> sorry
[02:50] <InFlames> anyone know why after updating my nvidia drivers to x-swat's my my second monitor is dead and my screen has nothing but a background and mouse cursor?
[02:50] <dauntless> lix: try quoting the '*.sql'
[02:50] <lix> dauntless: thanks. - your article explains it.
[02:50] <Spr1ng> what is x-swat?
[02:50] <InFlames> ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[02:51] <CuriousPostulate> I've got a question regarding GPG.  I have gpg-agent running, and "use-agent" in my gpg.conf file.  I don't have a gpg-agent.conf file, so I created one.  Will gpg-agent read from there or is there some other configuration file? One more thing, I can't find out where gpg-agent is started (I'm running Ubuntu 12.10) ... any ideas?
[02:51] <Spr1ng> oh sorry, no clue
[02:51] <InFlames> :/
[02:51] <dauntless> lix: assuming you have GNU version of tar
[02:51] <InFlames> i'm dead in the water over here
[02:51] <dauntless> lix: np
[02:51] <lix> dauntless: :) sure. anything else than GNU is not worth to be considered....
[02:52] <lonewulf> Hey will anyone sign my petition  http://www.change.org/petitions/pc-makers-to-offer-foss-operating-systems-like-unix-linux-etc
[02:53] <PoolShark_> tons of pc makers already offer FOSS operating systems
[02:53] <khad76> and your link doesn't work
[02:53] <lonewulf> also pass it on to anyone that you can think of, that is if you like FOSS.
[02:53] <Magiobiwan> lonewulf, some do. It depends on the manufacturer
[02:53] <OerHeks> Lonewulf wrong room, please don't advertise here.
[02:53] <OerHeks> or take polls.
[02:54] <CuriousPostulate> What's a good amount of time to wait before asking a question again in a busy channel like this?
[02:55] <Magiobiwan> CuriousPostulate, I'd say about 5 minutes if nobody responded
[02:55] <PoolShark_> I dunno..... ask again in a little bit
[02:55] <PoolShark_> :p
[02:55] <Magiobiwan> If someone DID, I'd say 15
[02:55] <Magiobiwan> Since they might be looking it up
[02:56] <blackshirt> hello
[02:56] <CuriousPostulate> Magiobiwan, thanks
[02:56] <xubuntu_user> Hello, I installed Xubuntu, but it needs the USB stick to boot.  Is there a way to change it so it boots from the hard drive instead?
[02:56] <blackshirt> curiouspostulate, what is your problems?
[02:57] <mspencer> Where is a good place to ask Ubuntu developers for an opinion on how a new feature/bug fix should work?
[02:57] <lonewulf> PoolShark: I do not mean where you have to ask and only on certain PC's.
[02:57] <blackshirt> xubuntu_user, i think you should change grub config to load kernel from disk
[02:57] <xubuntu_user> blackshirt, how do I do that?
[02:58] <PoolShark_> lonewulf: I am not sure I understand your meaning.
[02:58] <OerHeks> mspencer, try #ubuntu-devel
[02:58] <blackshirt> press e on grub menu when you booy
[02:58] <blackshirt> booting
[02:58] <CuriousPostulate> blackshirt, I'm wondering how to go about reducing the timeout for gpg-agent, and I'm not really sure where gpg-agent is starting.  Also, I didn't have a gpg-agent.conf file in ~/.gnupg and I don't know if one I make will be used by default
[02:58] <xubuntu_user> there is no grub menu
[02:58] <InFlames> anyone know how to fix my nvidia driver issues?
[02:58] <xubuntu_user> it usually shows when I have it load from the hard drive
[02:58] <blackshirt> xubuntu_user, press shift at boot
[02:58] <xubuntu_user> but from the USB stick, I don't see a grub menu
[02:58] <xubuntu_user> ok
[02:59] <mspencer> OerHeks: Thank you, I wasn't sure if that was what #ubuntu-devel was for.
[02:59] <xubuntu_user> is it easy after that?
[02:59] <lonewulf> PoolShark: I contacted Dell and HP both said that they only have one - two computers that they can offer linux on.
[02:59] <blackshirt> xubuntu_user, i dont think so :)
[02:59] <xubuntu_user> lol
[02:59] <blackshirt> you should pass your root option to kernel to load from
[03:00] <xubuntu_user> I installed it, and it said 60GB
[03:00] <xubuntu_user> I don't understand why it installed it so I needed the USB stick
[03:00] <xubuntu_user> can you tell me the directions to change it after I press shift?
[03:00] <blackshirt> xubuntu_user, are you installed it from usb stick ?
[03:00] <Magiobiwan> lonewulf, you could just as easily buy the PC with Windows, burn a Linux CD/DVD, then nuke Windos
[03:01] <xubuntu_user> yes, but it said available diskspace 60gb
[03:01] <xubuntu_user> the usb stick is only 8gb
[03:01] <blackshirt> xubuntu_user, usually you press e to edit grub menu interactively, and ctrl+x to exit and continues the boot process
[03:02] <xubuntu_user> is that all or should you walk me through it?
[03:02] <xubuntu_user> I can come back on my netbook
[03:03] <lonewulf> Maglobiwan: This is true but would it not be nicer to already have a computer with it already installed? I am not meaning replace Windows as the default option just when you buy a new PC offer the choice to get one with FOSS
[03:03] <xubuntu_user> I'll see if the menu appears
[03:03] <xubuntu_user> brb
[03:03] <blackshirt> xubuntu_user, just see it and tell me what is your root on linux stanzas on grub menu line
[03:03] <Magiobiwan> lonewulf, well, it's up to the company
[03:05] <lonewulf> Magiobliwan: I know and aside from system76 I cannot think of very many that allow this choice.
[03:07] <lunaphyte> hi.  when a new windows opens on the desktop [a program, folder, etc], it's always stuck in one of the corners.  how can i change that, so it's in the middle of the screen?
[03:07] <lunaphyte> *window
[03:07] <InFlames> anyone have an idea how to fix my nvidia driver issues?
[03:08] <gskellik> all flash videos in google chrome go at like 2x speed
[03:08] <gskellik> and firefox they go about 1/2 or maybe 3/4 speed
[03:08] <gskellik> clearly not normal though
[03:08] <gskellik> anyone have an idea?
[03:09] <Cong> lunaphyte, if you're using compiz you need only to set the window placement parament to center
[03:09] <gskellik> I'm on 12.04
[03:11] <lunaphyte> Cong: thanks for the clue, i'll have a look
[03:11] <gskellik> anyone?
[03:12] <InFlames> do you guys all run open source drivers or run ati video cards or what?
[03:13] <rypervenche> InFlames: I use nvidia proprietary drivers.
[03:13] <Cong> lunaphyte, /apps/compiz/plugins/place/screen0/options/mode, set it to 2. you need gconf-editor.
[03:13] <blackshirt> inflames, maybe someone here has a same issue like you
[03:13] <gskellik> this is so weird. youtube, dropbox videos, everything
[03:13] <khad76> i've been using the beta proprietary and they've been fine
[03:13] <gskellik> its not just flash it seems to also be HTML5 .mp4 files
[03:13] <Cong> lunaphyte, not that's 1 not 2
[03:14] <gskellik> wait its JWplayer im not sure if thats flash or HTML5
[03:14] <gskellik> in any case all my videos are playing at 2x speed.
[03:15] <gskellik> ?
[03:15] <InFlames> blackshirt: i'd be amazed if i was the only one, but by the fact i've asked 3 times in an hour, no one has responded, maybe
[03:15] <InFlames> what nvidia driver and ubuntu version are you guys running?
[03:15] <gskellik> I'm using a special driver because I have two graphics cards in my laptop
[03:16] <InFlames> i am having trouble with 12.10 and 304.64, 310.34, and 304.51
[03:16] <InFlames> gskellik: i just don't get how it seems like this was working in 12.04, but in 12.10 i'm screwed, everything i try
[03:16] <InFlames> been without a machine for 24 hours now
[03:16] <gskellik> does anybody have any hints to my video problem? The sound also seems to be messed up.
[03:16] <rypervenche> InFlames: So downgrade then.
[03:16] <blackshirt> inflames, riphervence has told you, he was using nvidia
[03:17] <anastasya> InFlames, I downgraded because of that exact issue
[03:17] <InFlames> hmm, ok, i guess i will face the music
[03:17] <InFlames> guess it's not the end of the world, and they i don't have to block amazon lenses :/
[03:17] <anastasya> InFlames, you may try 304.43 I had some luck with that one
[03:17] <InFlames> then*
[03:17] <InFlames> hmm, that's an idea
[03:17] <rypervenche> InFlames: Isn't 310 beta?
[03:18] <InFlames> rypervenche: yes, but after everything i thought i'd try it
[03:18] <gskellik> upgrading to 12.10 now
[03:18] <gskellik> hopefully this will fix
[03:18] <InFlames> back to the drawing board i suppose
[03:18] <lonewulf> gskellik: What is the problem?
[03:18] <anastasya> rypervenche, 310 is experimental. InFlames you might also pop into #nvidia they were a big help for me
[03:18] <rypervenche> InFlames: Go back to the one that was working for you. I can't imagine you NEED the latest version for anything in particular.
[03:18] <gskellik> LoneWlf, flash video (and I think HTML5 also) goes twice as fast as its supposed to
[03:19] <gskellik> and the sound is a weird kind of static
[03:19] <InFlames> rypervenche: 12.04 was actually running pretty slow and i had issues with some stuff, but it was bareable
[03:19] <InFlames> anastasya: i will try there before i give up
[03:19] <InFlames> thank you guys
[03:19] <anastasya> InFlames, again the best results I got were from 304.43
[03:20] <ebravick> quit
[03:20] <lonewulf> gskellik: Is this in opera or firefox or chrome?
[03:20] <InFlames> hmm, i don't know if i tried anything that "old"
[03:20] <InFlames> perhaps i will
[03:20] <gskellik> lonewulf chrome. On firefox it has other speed problems
[03:20] <walterwoj> All my windows seem to run off the bottom of the screen so the buttons on the bottom are inaccessible.  Anyone else experience this?  Any know fixes so linux will properly size the windows?
[03:20] <gskellik> it will play for a sec then freeze, even if i let it buffer all the way
[03:20] <rypervenche> InFlames: I'm using 295.71
[03:20] <gskellik> it freezes for a moment every second or two
[03:21] <gskellik> I haven't tried opera yet
[03:21] <anastasya> InFlames, good luck :-)
[03:21] <InFlames> i just don't get how nvidia puts my card listed as supported yet, it's not…hmmm
[03:21] <InFlames> heh
[03:21] <InFlames> thanks guys
[03:21] <stoneguy> msg nickserv set email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:21] <lix> InFlames: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbovJbKALzA
[03:22] <lonewulf> gskellik: It might be in the flash setting. I am downloading flash player for chrome give me a few minutes and I will see if I can help.
[03:22] <InFlames> stoneguy: you need / in front of that
[03:22] <lix> stoneguy: ;)
[03:22] <InFlames> lix: my sentiments exactly
[03:22] <lix> InFlames: indeed! :-D
[03:23] <InFlames> i love the awkward part right after where he seems to look as though maybe he shouldn't have done that, lol
[03:23] <Cong> that's one more email to spam. ;)
[03:23] <InFlames> rofl
[03:23] <stoneguy> Been too long since using IRC...
[03:23] <lix> InFlames: Sure. - I just like Linux being that straight forward!
[03:23] <lonewulf> gskeillik: I have found that my flash in firefox has minor hickups.
[03:24] <VitaoDoidao> it
[03:24] <se23> lonewulf: what's that?
[03:24] <Guest3221> would i use a CDR or a CD ROM to install ubuntu, or does it not matter
[03:24] <walterwoj> ok, I think it is because my display is set wrong but it does not give me the size i need 1266x768  how would I fix that?
[03:24] <InFlames> lix: true, i am glad he said it, it needed to be said
[03:24] <lix> InFlames: exactly
[03:25] <stoneguy> Cong: That's ok, it's one of my "not for useful purposes" addrs anyway
[03:25] <CuriousPostulate> I've got a question regarding GPG.  I have gpg-agent running, and "use-agent" in my gpg.conf file.  I don't have a gpg-agent.conf file, so I created one.  Will gpg-agent read from there or is there some other configuration file? One more thing, I can't find out where gpg-agent is started (I'm running Ubuntu 12.10) ... any ideas?
[03:25] <lonewulf> se23: Sometimes the audio will keep going and the video stops working.
[03:25] <se23> i havent found the bug, uses 16.0.2 thanks
[03:26] <rypervenche> Guest3221: Doesn't matter.
[03:26] <lonewulf> Guest3221: the CDR is what you burn the rom is what you use to burn it. A cd will work just fine. You could also use pendrivelinux to make a bootable USB.
[03:27] <xubuntu_user> Hi, I installed xubuntu on my computer, but it won't boot up unless I use a USB stick.  How do I change this and it won't show a grub list even if I press shift when it boots up.
[03:27] <Cong> xubuntu_user, did you install it from usb?
[03:27] <CuriousPostulate> My gpg-agent doesn't seem to forget the key after any amount of time.  Any way to fix this?
[03:28] <Cong> you didn't change the boot load install position
[03:28] <xubuntu_user> yes, but it showed 60gb for available space, my usb stick is ony 8 gb
[03:28] <Cong> loader
[03:28] <xubuntu_user> it never asked me to change it
[03:28] <Cong> you overlooked it
[03:28] <xubuntu_user> how do I change it?
[03:28] <Cong> i don't know
[03:28] <xubuntu_user> where is it?
[03:28] <xubuntu_user> when it installs it only shows a few steps
[03:28] <lonewulf> xubuntu_user: I have minimal experience with xfce but you might be missing the grub loader there is ways to install from a live distro.
[03:28] <xubuntu_user> not much to overlook
[03:29] <xubuntu_user> lonewolf, I see what you are saying
[03:30] <lonewulf> xubuntu_user: you might try googeling the procedure to install the grub from a live disc. I had to do this once but I cannnot remember the procedure right now.
[03:30] <lix> CuriousPostulate: I guess that is done in ~.gnupg/gpg.conf
[03:30] <lix> CuriousPostulate: Are you using a card reader btw?
[03:30] <xubuntu_user> lonewolf, does it erase the current installation or just add to it?
[03:31] <xubuntu_user> lix, are you talking to me?
[03:31] <lix> xubuntu_user: nope
[03:32] <vernon> I had an issue with a past install that I need to work out. I have a Nvidia GeForce GTX 670 Card. I installed the drivers, rebooted (to get out of the horrid nouveau drivers), and all I saw was a low res desktop without the unity sidebar. I am running at 1080p if that helps ;)
[03:32] <lonewulf> xubuntu_user: It will leave the current install alone provided that you follow the instructions.
[03:33] <lunaphyte> Cong: thanks, i found the setting, but it doesn't seem to have worked.
[03:33] <xubuntu_user> lonewolf, do you think that "grand unified bootloader" might solve this issue?
[03:33] <CuriousPostulate> lix, I didn't see it in gpg.conf, I only saw "use-agent".  What do you mean card reader?
[03:33] <Cong> lunaphyte, are you running compiz?
[03:34] <lonewulf> vernon: what driver did you select, there is one that is experimental.
[03:34] <lunaphyte> Cong: i think i am, how can i confirm?
[03:34] <vernon> I cannot remember. I just want one that works correctly...
[03:34] <lix> CuriousPostulate: I was asking, because I remember having had troubles with gpg-agent when I was using my FSF card with a card reader. And there is a good manual for that by Mathias Kirschner (FSFE).
[03:34] <lonewulf> xubuntu-user: yes unless xubuntu uses a different loader, if it does then I would go with that.
[03:35] <vernon> I have already switched distros, but I want some help, so that I can go back...
[03:35] <jaysonr> vernon: that's a known bug. see this on askubuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/215016/12-10-unity-doesnt-appear-when-using-nvidia-drivers
[03:35] <jaysonr> vernon: basically linux-headers is being removed by the installer, and the nvidia driver can't compile properly
[03:35] <CuriousPostulate> lix: I'm not using a card reader
[03:35] <jaysonr> vernon: if you can get to a terminal (or a VT), this will fix your issue: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic & sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current & sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[03:36] <vernon> jaysonr: Thats pretty lame if you ask me.. But this should work ;)
[03:36] <lonewulf> vernon: you may need to run the x11config command from a terminal to set up xorg to run.
[03:36] <jaysonr> vernon: personally, I'm running nvidia-experimental-310 from proposed, and it's working great for me.
[03:36] <lix> CuriousPostulate: ok. so what's your question? (dunno if I can help...)
[03:36] <vernon> jaysonr: For the record, no other distros have given me hell with my nvidia card...
[03:37] <lonewulf> vernon: jaysonr, is correct this was the command that I was going to suggest.
[03:37] <jaysonr> vernon: I can't speak to that, I've had better results with less hassle with Ubuntu in the past, but this is an odd bug that wasn't expected.
[03:37] <CuriousPostulate> lix, it looks like gpg-agent isn't forgetting my passphrase.  How can I set a timeout?  I've heard about editing gpg-agent.conf, but if one doesn't already exist, I don't know if it'll be looked at.. maybe some strange settings with gpg-agent
[03:37] <lix> CuriousPostulate: I thought the timeout can be set in gpg.conf. - I dont even have a gpg-agent.conf file ...
[03:38] <lix> CuriousPostulate: .... let me get the info for you quickly.
[03:39] <CuriousPostulate> lix: Thanks! I didn't see anything like that in gpg.conf.. maybe there's no default specified there?
[03:40] <timwis> Hey guys, just made the switch from win7 to ubuntu for the first time. Any idea why my graphics are getting distorted sometimes? http://i.imgur.com/pqtIL.png (nvidia geforce gtx 460 se)
[03:40] <blackness> timwis, did you install the nvidia drivers?
[03:41] <timwis> blackness: I went to software sources > additional drivers and selected the NVIDIA binary Xorg driver
[03:41] <timwis> was trying to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia but System > Administration must have been moved
[03:42] <lonewulf> timwis: there is the option to scan for additional hardware drivers then install the one that is not a postrelease version.
[03:42] <blackness> but did you apt-get install nvidia-current ?
[03:42] <maslo2> hi guys, could anyone help me out please it would be very appreciated, I own a VPS(Virtual private server) running ubuntu and I wanna use it as a SSH tunnel, I know how to do so but I wanna make a user that has no rights to do anything else other than log in...so I'm pretty much asking how to limit an account to be able to do NOTHING
[03:42] <Cong> lunaphyte, egrep compiz
[03:42] <timwis> blackness: No, I didn't. Should I enter that in terminal?
[03:43] <lix> CuriousPostulate: try e.g. "default-cache-ttl 1800" in ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf
[03:43] <blackness> i need to check if your card is support by the current, if not you might have to download a older package...
[03:43] <timwis> lonewulf: 'Additional Drivers' doesn't have any scan button
[03:43] <timwis> thanks blackness
[03:43] <lunaphyte> Cong: sorry?
[03:43] <rypervenche> maslo2: You want to create a jailed environment.
[03:44] <Cong> lunaphyte, oh, pgrep compiz
[03:44] <someprimetime> is there some kind of a plugin for screen that will display like a tree list of all myfiles?
[03:44] <maslo2> how would I do that rypervenche?
[03:44] <maslo2> that username is somewhat gonna be public(friends only)
[03:44] <lunaphyte> Cong: ah, gotcha.  pid 1977
[03:44] <lonewulf> timwis: if you are running 12.04 you can click on the unity button or hit the windows button then go to applications it will be under hardware drivers
[03:44] <blackness> timwis, what ive found, you can safely do: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[03:45] <blackness> as the 460 is under that package.
[03:45] <CuriousPostulate> lix: How should I restart gpg-agent?  How can I be sure that gpg-agent.conf is read, since I didn't have the file by default?
[03:45] <lonewulf> timwis: it runs by itself.
[03:45] <timwis> blackness: "nvidia-current is already the newest version"
[03:45] <rypervenche> maslo2: It's past my bedtime, but someone here can help you, or you can find it by Googling. You at least know what it is you need to know.^^
[03:46] <lix> CuriousPostulate: probably/logically yes
[03:46] <blackness> http://askubuntu.com/questions/140760/ubuntu-12-04-nvidia-gtx-460-video-card-installation follow the blacklist section of this guide timwis
[03:46] <maslo2> yeah thanks a lot I'm gonna look around for it, I just wanna make sure it'S safe and that I don'T get owned/betrayed by a friend
[03:46] <Cong> lunaphyte, you have compiz running. if you set the key right you should be getting centered windows poping up all over the center.
[03:46] <lix> CuriousPostulate: ... am sitll looking for the good article for you.
[03:46] <lonewulf> timwis: blackness is right the apt-get command will work.
[03:46] <CuriousPostulate> lix: thank you!
[03:46] <blackness> except dont delete nvidia-current..leave that install. just edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[03:46] <Dogget> Trying to install ATI drivers for ubuntu 12.10 not sure which one. Any help welcome
[03:46] <lix> CuriousPostulate: maybe you wanna read this: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/378
[03:46] <blackness> then reboot.
[03:47] <Dogget> I am using an ATI 7850 card
[03:47] <blackness> s/install/installed
[03:47] <ziggyfish_> I am having trouble install ubuntu on a hp laptop, it only allows me to install it on one hard drive when fdisk tells me there are 3 drives
[03:47] <ziggyfish_> is there some sort of driver I need to install?
[03:47] <timwis> compiling a new kernel :O
[03:47] <lonewulf> Dogget: use the sudo apt-get install ati current
[03:47] <CuriousPostulate> lix: Thanks! I'm reading it now, give me a bit...
[03:48] <ziggyfish_> timwis, nice
[03:48] <lunaphyte> Cong: i believe i have it set right.  it was labelled as you described - 1 = center
[03:48] <lunaphyte> Cong: is there a shell command i can use to print settings?
[03:48] <lix> CuriousPostulate: Yes. Looks like that is the way. Here on this Gentoo site it's the same setting: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gnupg-user.xml
[03:48] <blackness> timwis, there also should be a checkbox under hardware drivers that allows you to select the nvidia package aswell. make sure you have this checked
[03:48] <Dogget> Will this work fine Lonewulf? I have tried a few things but things messed up, unity bar not showing back, screen all blank etc
[03:49] <lix> CuriousPostulate: looks like it is done with ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf
[03:49] <Dogget> @Lonewulf: It will install the latest ATI drivers right?
[03:49] <lonewulf> gskellik: I ran a video on youtube with chrome and it played fine for me.
[03:50] <gskellik> LoneWlf, yeah I think its a specific problem
[03:50] <timwis> blackness, I modified the blacklist.conf file, about to reboot. do i need to find that checkbox first?
[03:50] <gskellik> I just updated adobe-flashplayer
[03:50] <superfake123> how can I view startup services like apache2 etc?
[03:50] <blackness> yes, check it before you reboot.
[03:50] <gskellik> it sounds like a helicopter when I watch a video... lol
[03:50] <lonewulf> Dogget: I believe it will I have just used the additional hardware drivers application.
[03:51] <lix> CuriousPostulate: This article says: "gpg-agent remembers your passphrase for a limited time. You may let it forget
[03:51] <lix> your passphrase by stopping/restarting it."
[03:51] <lix> CuriousPostulate: https://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/2011-June/013896.html
[03:52] <xubuntu_user> anyone know how to install grub for xubuntu?
[03:52] <timwis> blackness, did you by any chance mean *software* sources? I don't see hardware sources anywhere :/ sorry if I'm a newb here
[03:52] <Dogget> @Lonewulf: I am getting this http://pastebin.com/16m9LkMf
[03:52] <xubuntu_user> I tried bootloader, I tried sudo install commands in terminal
[03:52] <blackness> its hardware drivers
[03:52] <CuriousPostulate> lix: woah... I killed gpg-agent but I managed to decrypt something without my passphase anyways... maybe I have two key agents?
[03:52] <blackness> not sources
[03:52] <lonewulf> gskellik: When I lloked into the flashplayer settings there was no option to adjust the playback speed.
[03:52] <blackness> let me see if i can find the binary for it
[03:52] <gskellik> yeah lonewulf its pretty limited
[03:53] <gskellik> its just microphone/video camera
[03:53] <gskellik> and thats about it
[03:53] <lix> CuriousPostulate: that is scary indeed!
[03:53] <lonewulf> gskellik: Yeah.
[03:53] <phillijw_> Anyone use garmintools?
[03:54] <blackness> i cant find it..
[03:55] <timwis> blackness, this is the closest i've found: http://i.imgur.com/EiFLc.png
[03:55] <blackness> yes, thats it.
[03:55] <blackness> what does nvidia-settings say?
[03:55] <iGoogle> does syncdaemon.conf effect with ubuntuone? i need proxy for ubuntuone, urgent now。
[03:55] <blackness> reboot, then load that, sorry.
[03:55] <blackness> i'm tired :/
[03:55] <iGoogle> anyone use proxy for ubuntuone?
[03:56] <CuriousPostulate> lix: And I see that I /do/ have a passphrase, because when I run gpg --armor --no-use-agent --decrypt file.asc, it asks for my passphrase...
[03:56] <timwis> lol okay so I am good to reboot then
[03:56] <timwis> brb
[03:57] <lonewulf> timwis: If you are done with installing grub give it a shot you should be good, then hop back on and let me know if I helped.
[03:57] <lix> CuriousPostulate: It looks as if you need pinentry
[03:57] <iGoogle> UbuntuOne: need proxy, any idea?
[03:57] <CuriousPostulate> lix: Maybe gnome keyring.. woah.  I killed gnome-keyring and that's what was storing it!
[03:58] <Dogget> Lonewulf: This is what I am getting mate: http://pastebin.com/16m9LkMf
[03:58] <phillijw_> configure: error: cannot build garmintools without libusb <--- I have libusb1.0 installed. What's the deal?
[03:58] <lix> CuriousPostulate: oh! interesting!
[03:59] <Guest99975> list
[03:59] <lix> CuriousPostulate: yes, that must be it. (I dont use gnome keyring). can you set a timeout there?
[03:59] <CuriousPostulate> lix: I'm going to find out a way to disable gnome-keyring.  It might be because of using a non-standard window manager (xmonad! woo!) that some things aren't set right.  I'll check for some settings
[04:00] <lix> CuriousPostulate: roger
[04:00] <Guest99975> dir
[04:00] <lix> Guest99975: this is not m$-dos ;)
[04:01] <lix> Guest99975: try "ls"
[04:01] <Guest99975> sorry... i am new in IRC..
[04:01] <lix> Guest99975: no worries :)
[04:01] <Guest99975> tks
[04:01] <lix> Guest99975: in IRC commands are done with a slash "/"
[04:02] <Guest99975> tks again
[04:02] <lix> like "/whois Guest99975"
[04:02] <lonewulf> Dogget: you could always try the additional drivers
[04:02] <lix> or "/join #ubuntu"
[04:02] <worm> /help will show you the help info of the IRC.
[04:02] <lix> exactly
[04:03] <Guest99975> tks worm
[04:03] <Dogget> I just want to do this the right way, Having re-installed 12.10 three times now I am getting tired.
[04:04] <iGoogle> UbuntuOne: need proxy, any idea?
[04:04] <lonewulf> Dogget: I understand I have really only used the additional hardware option. It has worked with my system. I have a ati/raedon 6900
[04:04] <jael> hey guys, just acquired a Dell PowerEdge 1850 server, just wondering whether the current release of Ubuntu Server will work on it? It's not listed as a supported server, but has anyone seen an instance in which it worked?
[04:05] <lunaphyte> jael: i'd imagine it would work just fine.
[04:06] <lix> jael: check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:07] <Cong> lunaphyte, install CCSM from the software centre. It will make turning on plugins for compiz a snap. That's the theory anyway.
[04:07] <lunaphyte> Cong: ok
[04:07] <jael> lix, i checked it out earlier, and it's not listed.. but i guess it wont hurt to try. the machine should be here shortly...
[04:08] <lunaphyte> jael: how much memory>
[04:08] <lix> jael: try the live CD first to find out, maybe
[04:09] <lix> jael: s/live CD/live CD or memorystick/
[04:10] <jael> lunaphyte not sure yet. my buddies datacenter was clearing out unused servers and let me grab one for free.. so until it gets here, im not really sure about specs.. but its anywhere between 2gb to 12gb ram
[04:10] <jael> just hope i get lucky ;)
[04:10] <lonewulf> Dogget: You can try this http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/03/how-to-install-ati-amd-catalyst-122.html
[04:11] <jael> generic specs are here: http://www.dell.com/downloads/ap/topics/servers/1850_specs.pdf
[04:11] <lix> jael: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1892534
[04:12] <Dogget> Lonewulf: Thanks for the link but alas it's not for 12.10. I had no problems with the drivers on 12.04 by the way
[04:12] <lunaphyte> jael: well, hopefully it's 64 bit
[04:12] <Dogget> I feel 12.10 is really laggy, taking seconds to open a window and all while on 12.04 it was straight.
[04:12] <lonewulf> Dogget: Which version?
[04:12] <phillijw_> Does a higher DPI make my text smaller or larger? I would think smaller?
[04:12] <lix> jael: just looked over the pdf. I don't see a problem why Ubuntu shouldn't work on this machine...
[04:13] <Dogget> I am currently running 12.10 but everything is so slow
[04:13] <phillijw_> Dogget: its probably your video drivers or something. Did you create an xorg.conf?
[04:13] <CuriousPostulate> lix: I found one workaround, but it's really messy and was from 2009.  I'm googling more
[04:13] <Dogget> I haven't done anything yet after the third reinstall
[04:13] <jael> lix, thanks. that's all i needed to hear!
[04:14] <lonewulf> Dogget: I am sorry I misunderstood, I usually just stick with the 32bit
[04:14] <jael> lunaphyte, definitely 64bit
[04:14] <lix> CuriousPostulate: ouch. - let me know as I know the developer of gnupg personally.
[04:14] <Dogget> :-( damn
[04:14] <Dogget> in 12.04 64 bits it was all fine as well
[04:15] <Dogget> 12.10 runs like a turtle!
[04:15] <lonewulf> Dogget: I hate to say this but my graphics run just fine in 12.04 i386
[04:15] <Dogget> Same for me in 12.04 I am talking about 12.10 Lone :-)
[04:16] <lix> Dogget: what does "top" say?
[04:16] <Cong> what are the major difference of 12.04 and 12.10?
[04:16] <Dogget> Sorry Lix which "top"?
[04:16] <lix> Dogget: in the terminal
[04:17] <lix> Dogget: "top" tells you what process uses how much CPU, memory etc.
[04:17] <lix> Dogget: so you might find out where the entropy goes ....
[04:17] <Dogget> Sure what do you need to know? :-)
[04:18] <Dogget> compiz, then xorg are at the top
[04:18] <lix> Dogget: well, try to sort top either by CPU or mem, and you'll see
[04:18] <lix> Dogget: oh! - I see
[04:18] <lonewulf> Dogget: I did not have an issue in 12.10 I reinstalled 12.04 for a different reason.
[04:18] <lix> Dogget: are you on unity 3D?
[04:18] <Dogget> Yes
[04:18] <Dogget> It's a hoag really
[04:18] <lix> Dogget: try to desactivate the effects
[04:18] <Dogget> 12.04 was fine all the way
[04:19] <Cong> what ever you do, do not type metacity --replace into a terminal
[04:19] <lonewulf> dogget: try running in 2d that sometimes helps you get a lot of the same looks.
[04:19] <lix> Dogget: Alt+F2 ccsm
[04:20] <Dogget> I mean it's hard to swallow that I have to do that when I have a 6 cores machines and 16 gg of ram :-(
[04:20] <CuriousPostulate> lix: I found a bug report from april of this year.  It doesn't appear that this has been fixed, but I'm not sure, as I don't even know where the configuration would be... I'm not sure if I just haven't found it or it's not there.    Wait.. I found a setting in "Seahorse" with gconf-editor regarding the cache... "cache_method" and "cache_ttl" ..ttl is set to 300 (I'm assuming seconds), and it definitely is not acting like that.
[04:20] <CuriousPostulate>  I'm going to restart and check this...
[04:20] <Dogget> But I will do as you experts suggest :-)
[04:20] <lix> Dogget: Sure. But your issue seems to be with the graphics....
[04:20] <Dogget> compiz yes
[04:21] <lonewulf> yes compiz
[04:22] <lix> Dogget: yes. - try Alt+F2 ccsm
[04:22] <CuriousPostulate> lix: AH! I found something in "gsettings": org.gnome.crypto.cache gpg-cache-method.  it's "session" which is why I think it's storing it for the whole x session.  I'm going to change it to idle and see if that works
[04:23] <lix> CuriousPostulate: interesting. - yes this might do it
[04:24] <lonewulf> Hey has anyone tried ubuntustudio
[04:24] <lix> lonewulf: long time ago, yes
[04:25] <Dogget> doing that does nothing...:-(
[04:25] <lonewulf> lix: Was it as a professional.
[04:25] <CuriousPostulate> lix: gpg is giving me errors about where it's looking for the gnome-keyring passphrase... I shall return after I restart.
[04:25] <Dogget> I think I better just go back to 12.04 at once
[04:26] <lix> lonewulf: that was in the very beginning. we were using it for a students media server (internet radio) for an arts school. - was quite good I have to say
[04:26] <dwarder> is there a command line escaper?
[04:26] <lix> CuriousPostulate: roger
[04:26] <dwarder> i.e. i need to escape a long line and insert it into command line
[04:26] <lix> lonewulf: would have to check it out again, as this was 8 years ago...
[04:27] <Cong> dwarder, input escape character?
[04:27] <lix> lonewulf: actually there was an interesting project in ghana for a radio station that was using ubuntustudio, I remember
[04:27] <lonewulf> lix: I was wondering whether or not it would be a good os for everyday use?
[04:27] <lix> lonewulf: this certainly depends on what you work. :)
[04:29] <lix> lonewulf: meaning: are you into media production?
[04:29] <lix> lonewulf: I rememeber we were using jokosher to produce podcasts ans such that time...
[04:30] <lonewulf> lix: I dabble a little.
[04:30] <lix> lonewulf: I'd say it is definately worth a try
[04:31] <dwarder> Cong: yes
[04:31] <phillijw_> is there a way I can get unity to stop trying to sell me crap in the search menu?
[04:31] <lonewulf> lix: Cool I was trying to decide whether or not to install it on my other laptop.
[04:31] <dwarder> Cong: as in \"something\ here\"
[04:32] <CuriousPostulate> lix: It works!!
[04:32] <lix> CuriousPostulate: \o/
[04:32] <lix> CuriousPostulate: :-D
[04:32] <lix> CuriousPostulate: Great! - Now: what was it? gsettings?
[04:32] <CuriousPostulate> lix: I set it to 30 seconds to test and it asked for my passphrase again!  Crazy settings, though... Maybe they're more obvious if you're running more gui stuff.. I don't know.. but this is awesome :D
[04:33] <lix> CuriousPostulate: \o/  Great! congrats!
[04:33] <pika> hello i have a problem trying to setup other languages for keyboard
[04:33]  * lix is happy to see another satisfied Ubuntu user!
[04:33] <Cong> dwarder, don't know anything that can do that but if you need to input literal do "0x1b" or ^V, ESC
[04:34] <CuriousPostulate> lix: gsettings.. I think something like org.gnome.crypto... gpg-cache.. something.. I also used gconf-editor to change the seahorse settings to also idle and 30 seconds.  Thanks for your help! :)
[04:34] <lix> pika: try language support settings
[04:34] <pika> lix : where is that ?
[04:34] <lix> CuriousPostulate: Oh I see. Thanks
[04:34] <lix> pika: System settigns
[04:34] <pika> lix: i did this already
[04:35] <lix> pika: system settings > keyboard layout
[04:35] <pika> lix: i followed this tutorial : http://pinyinjoe.com/linux/ubuntu-12-chinese-setup.htm
[04:35] <CuriousPostulate> lix: Now time to close 45 tabs...  Thanks again!
[04:36] <pika> lix: i got it working one time then the notification icon diseapeared
[04:36] <lix> pika: yes that looks good. - what is your problem now?
[04:36] <lix> CuriousPostulate: you're welcome, Sir :)
[04:37] <lix> pika: I guess it only appears if there are multiple languages installed
[04:37] <lix> pika: let me check
[04:37] <lonewulf> does anyone know how to solve this...This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>. it is on the xchat
[04:38] <lix> pika: yes. as soon as you have more than one keyboard layout installed the icon appears
[04:38] <lix> lonewulf: is the concerned nickname yours?
[04:38] <lonewulf> yes
[04:38] <Cong> lonewulf, change your nickname it's taken.
[04:39] <lix> lonewulf: so use "/ msg nickserv identify **password**"
[04:39] <lonewulf> cong: how would I do that?
[04:39] <pika_> lix: sorry my connection dropped
[04:39] <lix> loncewulf: if the nickname was registered by you, you can simply identify
[04:39] <lix> pika_: no worries
[04:40]  * lix will brb
[04:40] <lonewulf> lix: if it was is there a way to recover or change my password throw email?
[04:40] <pika_> lix: I was saying that at the end of the tutorial they precise that the notofication icon doesn t appear all the time but that there is a way to solve this
[04:41] <Cong> lonewulf, you tried registering it and forgot the password?
[04:41] <Cong> that's a 30 day wait now if I recall
[04:41] <lix> lonewulf: http://blog.mibbit.com/?p=1300
[04:42] <lonewulf> Cong: I think so :)
[04:43] <lonewulf> lix: I got this "You are not authorized to perform this operation."
[04:44] <Cong> I think all IRC client developers should make the nick- chan- serv a command to facilitate to use. it would be used like so /nickserv command parameters+
[04:45] <manolos_> hi all. can i ask something about conky? cause conky channel is sleepy
[04:46] <pika_> lix : any idea how i can get the notification icon to display ?
[04:47] <Tempus_Fugit_> can anyone help me with Cairo Dock GL I use a dual monitor setup in Ubuntu 12.04 and its placing the dock in the middle of both screens
[04:47] <lix> pika_: it should display as soon as you got more than one keyboard layout in your system settings
[04:49] <pika__> hello
[04:49] <ziggyfish_> ahh, the bios has it RAIDed
[04:49] <pika__> hello can someone help me ?
[04:50] <Cong> lonewulf, you don't have to wait. go to #help or #services, they might be able to help, and tell 'em you want to cancel the registration.
[04:50] <ziggyfish_> now just have to work out how to tell the bois not to raid
[04:50] <ziggyfish_> its using uefi
[04:50] <lix> pika_: try to check the keyboard setting in system settings
[04:53] <Tempus_Fugit_> can anyone help me fix my cairo dock, Its positioned in the middle of 2 screens and Im trying to position it the the main screen on the laptop if i need to upload a snappy to imagebin i will
[04:54] <Cong> Tempus_Fugit_, pick a side but the middle
[04:54] <lunaphyte> Cong: i must have been doing something wrong before.  adjusting the setting using ccsm seems to have worked.  thanks for the help
[04:55] <solofight> people i have purchased a core i3, 2gb ddr3 machine - should i put 32 bit or 64 bit os ? it has come preloaded with fedora 32 bit
[04:55] <lunaphyte> solofight: 64 bit no question.
[04:56] <solofight> lunaphyte: is there any other reason for going with 64 bit apart from capability of huge ram handling ?
[04:56] <lunaphyte> that's backwards
[04:56] <solofight> i just have 2 gb and i understood after 4 gb is where the real difference kicks in
[04:56] <solofight> lunaphyte: backwards ?
[04:56] <lunaphyte> larger maximum memory capacities is little more than a side effect of the real benefits of a 64 bit processor.
[04:57] <lunaphyte> but i'd track down some more ram though if it were me.
[04:57] <lunaphyte> it's so cheap.
[04:58] <ADR524> This is my first time using Linux, I'm trying to use the terminal and no matter how I get to it, when It asks for my user name I enter it, when it asks for my password though it wont even let me type. I can return though.
[04:58] <ADR524> How do I fix this?
[04:58] <solofight> lunaphyte: what would be other notable benefits of 64 bit ? if you are saying ram handling is just a side effect !
[04:59] <Mattsyco> are you using Ubuntu ADR524?
[04:59] <ADR524> Yes
[04:59] <Tempus_Fugit_> Cong: where does it give me that option?
[04:59] <Cong> Tempus_Fugit_, it should have a option for it.
[05:00] <Tempus_Fugit_> Cong: in cairo dock settings or display settings?
[05:00] <ADR524> Even when it was trying to encrypt my home file It wouldnt let me entermy password. So I was forced to just exit without getting a passphrase.
[05:01] <fr3nk_> ADR524, try to enter it anyway maybe. and see how it goes
[05:01] <ADR524> hahah
[05:01] <ADR524> It just doesnt give me a notification that I'm entering it.
[05:01] <fr3nk_> no problem
[05:01] <fr3nk_> just do it
[05:01] <Mattsyco> ADR524, try going into the users setting in the system settings and doublechecking the password you set up
[05:01] <fr3nk_> you want ****s?
[05:01] <ADR524> Thank you Frenk.
[05:02] <ADR524> I was looking for *****'s
[05:02] <ADR524> :-)
[05:02] <fr3nk_> you wont see *****s
[05:02] <ADR524> Haha.
[05:02] <fr3nk_> why do you want them?
[05:03] <lunaphyte> solofight: the entire architecture of the processor is 64 bit.  registers, datapaths, integers, which means that programs which are built with this in mind have inherent performance benefits.  thinking that more ram is a reason to use a 64-bit os is silly - especially since 32-bit operating systems have long since supported more than 4gb of ram.
[05:03] <hacker> hey buddy
[05:04] <maslo2> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH, how would I go about fixing this ?
[05:04] <Cong> I want them too. I want to see stars when I type in passwords.
[05:06] <Cong> This is what I want to see ****-****.
[05:06] <lunaphyte> solofight: examples of software which often appreciate benefits from this are things like codecs and encryption software,
[05:06]  * lix loves Free Software
[05:06] <dauntless> maslo2: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:06] <maslo2> thank you I will try taht right away
[05:07] <dauntless> it will take awhile
[05:07] <dauntless> not sure what you are trying to do, so you may not be finished there
[05:08] <Cong> before you compile, check the ingredients
[05:09] <maslo2> E: Unable to locate package build-essentials
[05:09] <dauntless> maslo2: make sure you do a sudo apt-get update prior
[05:09] <maslo2> weird
[05:10] <dauntless> apt-get update
[05:10] <maslo2> just did
[05:10] <bazhang> maslo2, no 's'
[05:10] <maslo2> still the same errors
[05:10] <maslo2> oh
[05:10] <blackshirt> good
[05:10] <maslo2> thank you!
[05:10] <dauntless> working?
[05:10] <maslo2> thanks a lot :) yeah it is
[05:11] <dauntless> are you doing anything with the kernel?
[05:11] <blackshirt> !build-essential
[05:11] <blackshirt> !info build-essential
[05:12] <Cong> If you do not plan to build Debian packages, you don't need this package.
[05:13] <blackshirt> i think he need it for some reason :d
[05:13] <dauntless> maslo2: after its finished you can do a --> which gcc
[05:14] <maslo2> needed it to build jailkit
[05:14] <dauntless> you should see something like /usr/bin/gcc
[05:14] <maslo2> yeah I see /usr/bin/gcc
[05:15] <dauntless> should be ok now unless your path is jacked
[05:15] <SuperSonicSound> Hello World!
[05:16] <dauntless> echo $PATH
[05:16] <Cong> if this package and the manual disagree, the manual is correct.
[05:17] <Cong> it's written in the package information.
[05:18] <devish> any ideas where is the config file of pidgin?
[05:19] <lix> decish: ~/.purple
[05:19] <lix> devish: ~/.purple
[05:19] <Cong> You only need GCC, make, gdb, and binutils.
[05:21] <devish> lix: but why.....does purle has cofe other configurations as well like that of empathy/
[05:21] <devish> *purple
[05:21] <devish> i need to refresh my pidgin.....she doesn't talk to me now
[05:22] <blackshirt> what you mean ?
[05:22] <lwizardl> has Amazon made the newer kindles not connectible to linux pc's ?
[05:22] <lix> devish: mv ~/.purple ~/.purple_bak and try again
[05:22] <lix> devish: https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ConfigurationFiles
[05:23] <lwizardl> I am trying to add content to the Kindle Fire (not HD) and it doesn't want to mount as USB storage
[05:23] <devish> lix: good ideas ...thanks buddy
[05:23] <lix> devish: welcome, Sir
[05:24] <dauntless> ls
[05:24] <lix> dauntless: wrong tty
[05:24] <lix> :)
[05:24] <dauntless> yep
[05:24] <dauntless> ;)
[05:24] <lix> haha
[05:25] <dauntless> at least no password reveal
[05:25] <lix> dauntless: *damn* - thought I got you fianlly
[05:26]  * lix wants root on dauntless' workstation
[05:26] <xangua> lwizardl: does the kindle uses ics¿ this might help http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-connect-your-android-ice-cream-sandwich-phone-to-ubuntu-for-file-access
[05:26] <sadec> hey
[05:26] <dauntless> anyway, ls should have been ls -lart or something more interesting
[05:26] <lix> sadec: Hi there
[05:27] <lwizardl> xangua, not sure I know the kindle is running 10.2.1 version of kindle OS (I guess it would be called)
[05:27] <sadec> hey lix
[05:27] <lix> sadec: whats up?
[05:30] <saTTY> hey
[05:30] <saTTY> how to update ubuntu 12.04 12.11
[05:31] <lwizardl> xangua, yeah I just looked at the kindle settings and nothing there for MTP or USB. other then ADB debug usb
[05:31] <dauntless> update-manager -d
[05:32] <lix> saTTY: update-manager -d
[05:32] <dauntless> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/06/upgrade-to-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal-from-ubuntu-12-04/
[05:33] <lix> saTTY: in the update manager switch to "notify me about any update verseion"
[05:33] <saTTY> :) lix dauntless
[05:33] <dauntless> oh yeah, server or desktop?
[05:33] <lix> saTTY: yes. click the link dauntless posted
[05:33] <swiftkick> I'm having a strange problem. I have one motherboard audio device. When I run VLC 204 (and only VLC so far that I know of) audio player, no matter which device output method i select, it opens a window that says:
[05:33] <maslo> sigh I can't even get jailkit to work right -sadface- I dunno if I'll ever get used to ubuntu
[05:34] <swiftkick> AUdio output failed: The audio device "sysdefault:CARD=VT82xx" could not be used:
[05:34] <swiftkick> and then proceeds to play anyway
[05:34] <swiftkick> except with intermittent bouots of lots of extra static
[05:34] <dauntless> maslo: bummer, what's up
[05:34] <swiftkick> i get the feeling this might only occur when i have things like, flash and qmmp open (but not playing) in other windows
[05:35] <swiftkick> *bouts
[05:35] <maslo> what I hate is that what I'd like to do sometimes is just undo what I did ie: install something and all of it's components and try to do it again to see where it messed up
[05:35] <dauntless> well, you can with apt
[05:35] <maslo> dauntless: don't really know if I try to log in as the jailed user it just quits right after
[05:35] <maslo> yeah I know how to do it with apt but can you do it if you build something yourself
[05:35] <maslo> and didn't install it through apt?
[05:35] <dauntless> uh, yuck
[05:36] <average_drifter> any software to download an entire mailing list for offline reading ?
[05:37] <fishcooker> is that swap partition still really matter?
[05:37] <dauntless> does the jailed user have a user home dir
[05:37] <maslo> yes
[05:38] <fishcooker> what yes maslo
[05:38] <swiftkick> benzo eat a eat
[05:38] <solofight> lunaphyte: thank you
[05:38] <maslo> yes the jailed user have a user home dir
[05:38] <swiftkick> oops sorry wrong vector
[05:38] <maslo> I'm just trying to ssh into the user using putty and it close right after the automatic message(after logging into my vps)
[05:39] <swiftkick> maslo: arent there a couple files in /etc like /etc/shells and maybe /etc/loginusers (or something like that) that determine who can actually login and with what shells
[05:40] <swiftkick> someoneThe audio device "sysdefault:CARD=VT82xx" could not be used:
[05:40] <swiftkick> sheit
[05:40] <swiftkick> apologies
[05:40] <swiftkick> someone here ought to know more about it than I
[05:40] <ghostconn> hello is there a cheat engine alternative to use with transmission?
[05:40] <daniel-gnu> hello
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> ghostconn: transmission is pretty neat, what else you need as function?
[05:41] <lix> daniel-gnu: moin
[05:41] <dauntless> maslo: what version 2.15?
[05:41] <maslo> 2.11 actually
[05:43] <dauntless> newer releases available… right?
[05:43] <dauntless> what release of ubuntu
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> !12.10 | dauntless
[05:44] <maslo> I actually gotta go due to an emergency and don'T wanna leave the vps running with something not working (not the only one using it), how would I remove everything that I installed using make/make install
[05:44] <superfake123> is there a ppa that is current with the chromium releases?
[05:44] <dauntless> ;) thanks
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> superfake123:goto chromium website to get latest
[05:45] <dauntless> see if there is an uninstall in the dir
[05:45] <dauntless> then do a ./uninstall.sh or whatever if its there
[05:45] <superfake123> lotuspsychje, and just build it myself?
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> superfake123:there is a latest .deb chromium for ubuntu mate
[05:46] <superfake123> OH
[05:46] <dauntless> maslo: any luck there
[05:46] <fishcooker> btw how much size for swap?
[05:46] <maslo> redownloading the tar and checking if there's an uninstall
[05:46] <maslo> I had deleted it
[05:47] <dauntless> :(
  transmission is great yes but with windows i use utorrent and usually get anywhere between 1-1.5mbps but when i use cheat engine my speeds go upwards of 4mbps
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> !swap | fishcooker
[05:47] <maslo> COPYRIGHT    Makefile.in  config.status  debian  install-sh  src
[05:47] <maslo> INSTALL.txt  README.txt   configure      extra   man
[05:47] <maslo> Makefile     config.log   configure.ac   ini     py
[05:47] <maslo> is all there is
[05:47] <ghostconn> i was just wondering if there was a linux alternative to that type of software
[05:47] <maslo> and I dunno where it actually installed it and how to remove it >-<
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> ghostconn:speeds are relevant to seeders and peers, not the the software
[05:47] <superfake123> lotuspsychje, ummmm... where? I'm not seeing it. only finding the source to download
[05:48] <dauntless> maslo: you may have to got through the install-sh and see what its done
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> ghostconn: i use transmission with fast speeds without trouble
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> superfake123:or try software centre for chromium
[05:48] <maslo> root@vps:/tmp/jailkit-2.11# ./install-sh
[05:48] <maslo> install:        no input file specified
[05:48] <ghostconn> i understand that but what cheat engine dose is speed hacks packets as they come through you're router
[05:48] <ghostconn> youtube it and see or yourself
[05:49] <ghostconn> youll double if not tripple your speeds
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> !info chromium-browser | superfake123
[05:49] <superfake123> the latest stable version is 23
[05:49] <superfake123> that is waaaaay old
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> ghostconn:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=782312 something like this?
[05:51] <topper4125> @superfake123 http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/new-chromium-stable-and-development.html
[05:52] <futureleader> !vpn
[05:52] <soomon> hello. i have my pc with intel sanybridge onboard graphics connected to my av receiver via HDMI. when i run the 12.10 livecd everything works. after the installation neither grub nor unity shows up. the system itself seems to boot though. i dont care about grub but the desktop of course. it seems it cant detect the correct resolution or refresh rate. what can i do?
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | soomon
[05:52] <topper4125> and if you want 'extra fresh chromium' Nightly Builds PPA: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[05:53] <soomon> i cant switch to a console screen with strg+alt+f1 .. so i cant use randr?
[05:53] <futureleader> Hello guys whats a nice VPN in ubuntu?
[05:53] <ziggyfish_> yay, finally got ubuntu booted, thanks for all your help
[05:54] <futureleader> ziggyfish_:  it woun't boot again. muhahaha
[05:54] <fego> !vpn | futureleader
[05:54] <futureleader> fego ive been there
[05:54] <ziggyfish_> futureleader, your right, going to install it again with the right settings now
[05:55] <futureleader> ziggyfish_:  what are you installing... 12.10 LTS?
[05:55] <soomon> lotuspsychje any other idea?
[05:55] <ziggyfish_> futureleader, just 12.10, 12.04 was the LTS
[05:55] <futureleader> i have 12.10 LTS
[05:55] <futureleader> running it now
[05:56] <topper4125> maybe your thinking 12.04.01 Latest update to 12.04 LTS
[05:56] <topper4125> 12.10 is the latest version out.. but *not* LTS
[05:56] <superfake123> topper4125, that guy hasn't updated the stable channel either :( his dev channel is current though. guess I'll use that for now
[05:56] <futureleader> Where do i see my C version
[05:57] <futureleader> PC
[05:57] <topper4125> k
[05:58] <ziggyfish_> anyway I am happy, got a new laptop, and got ubuntu working
[06:00] <almoxarife> ziggyfish_: congrats
[06:00] <superfake123> sorry~ I just need that specific version to resolve a css issue but I can see it in v24 so this'll do
[06:02] <ziggyfish_> whats a good file system for a ssd, ext4?
[06:02] <kimphill_> futureleader, what do you mean, PC version?
[06:02] <topper4125> @superfake ya... just read this: This PPA is temporarily on hold until we fix some technical issues. that's for the nightly build PPA... not sure what the problem is.. they didn't go into detail
[06:02] <almoxarife> ziggyfish_: is a win machine ever going to need to read the ssd?
[06:02] <lix> ziggyfish: ssd is hardware ext4 a fliesystem
[06:03] <futureleader> Where do i see my Linux version
[06:03] <ziggyfish_> almoxarife, it has no windows
[06:03] <lix> ziggyfish: oups. sorry misread your question
[06:03] <kimphill> futureleader, uname -a
[06:03] <superfake123> hit ctrl alt T and then type uname -a
[06:03] <themhz> in the file manager on the right on the tree were I see home, file system how can I see network folders?
[06:04] <kimphill> futureleader, or cat /etc/issue
[06:04] <almoxarife> ziggyfish_: if you dont plan on making the ssd avail to win then ext4 is as good as any
[06:05] <lix> ziggyfish: yes. i'd say so ext4 is a good fs for an ssd
[06:05] <themhz> I have a nas server and I can't access it anymore :(
[06:05] <lix> themhz: what NAS?  But I closed the terminal to free sudo and Is still cant see the network folder
[06:08] <xubuntu368> xfce 4.10 officially available for 12.04 or only via external PPA's?
[06:08] <almoxarife> themhz: you literally did 'sudo nautilus'?
[06:08] <themhz> yes in terminal
[06:09] <topper4125> external PPA's only 4.8 is stable 12.04 LTS version of XFCE
[06:09] <themhz> because I needed to delete a file under /var/www
[06:09] <lix> themhz: do you have physical access?
[06:10] <almoxarife> themhz: open gnome-system-monitor, how many instances of nautilus running? one of them 'root' owned?
[06:10] <themhz> yes the computer is under my control no admins around
[06:10] <almoxarife> no admins around?
[06:10] <themhz> almoxarife 1
[06:11] <almoxarife> 1 what? root running nautilus? themhz
[06:11] <themhz> i killed it almoxarife
[06:12] <themhz> 1 themhz running nautilus not root
[06:12] <lix> I dont get it. - anyways. have a good weekend, Sirs!
[06:12] <lix> Good night & good luck!
[06:13] <themhz> gn lix
[06:13] <almoxarife> themhz: dont run nautilus with 'sudo' use 'gksu' , also include --no-desktop to the command
[06:13] <themhz> whats the difference almoxarife ?
[06:14] <themhz> almoxarife,  I did gksu nautilus and I see the network folder now
[06:14] <researcher123> where can I paste an image to show you all a screenshot of errors?
[06:15] <topper4125> @researcher aar.im image hosts for free
[06:15] <researcher123> I got GPG erro while updating.Kindly help
[06:16] <almoxarife> !gksu | themhz
[06:17] <themhz> ic
[06:17] <themhz> thanx
[06:17] <almoxarife> :)
[06:17] <themhz> almoxarife,  now I always need to type gksu nautilus ?
[06:18] <themhz> in order to access my network folders?
[06:18] <almoxarife> nautilus --no-desktop
[06:20] <almoxarife> themhz: well, root seems to be able to access network folders while your user name does not, from what you are saying, no idea why though
[06:21] <themhz> almoxarife,  ok so is there a way to give permissions to user "themhz" as root to view network folders somehow?
[06:22] <almoxarife> themhz: there is
[06:24] <thanigai> need help on wifi hotspot
[06:25] <crimsonmane> thanigai: can you be more specific?
[06:26] <thanigai> i have wifi adaptor . i created wifi hotspot in my ubuntu . but in  android mobile i cant see the hotspot.
[06:27] <almoxarife> thanigai: you sure the problem is not with the android?
[06:28] <thanigai> yes i  sure
[06:28] <almoxarife> thanigai: any other machine besides android you can sniff out the wifi with?
[06:30] <thanigai> yes i connected with my friend Mac laptop. works fine
[06:30] <almoxarife> thanigai: so the mac sees the wifi hotspot?
[06:32] <vanja90> #sabac
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> any packages to measure wifi range?
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> to see how far the adapter goes
[06:35] <thanigai> yes i can  get internet from Mac to Android.
[06:36] <almoxarife> lotuspsychje: how far?
[06:36] <thanigai> 10 meter
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> almoxarife:yes how far it can pickup ssid's
[06:38] <topper4125> search software center for "wicd"
[06:38] <almoxarife> lotuspsychje: 'kismet' will tell you signal strength in (db)  for all ssids it sniffs
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> almoxarife: ok tnx ill try
[06:39] <ympsinc> is there a way to scan for active remote desktop machines on my local home network
[06:39] <almoxarife> topper4125: thats a network manager, wicd
[06:39] <almoxarife> ympsinc: zenmap/nmap
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> !info kismet
[06:40] <AznLosty> hey guys, when I reboot my ubuntu it sits at the GRUB menu where it used to have a count down timer, but not anymore
[06:40] <AznLosty> should be an easy fix but I can't find it.... any ideas?
[06:41] <topper4125> it is... but it does strength metering much better than the default manager.
[06:43] <SpArTaKo> en español??
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> almoxarife:is there a gui addon for kismet
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> !es | SpArTaKo
[06:45] <almoxarife> lotuspsychje: not that i know of, its sort of graphical, its not command line at least
[06:45] <atul> hello oln
[06:46] <atul> hello josh
[06:46] <josh___> hello
[06:46] <atul> whats up josh
[06:46] <AznLosty> how do i adjust the countdown timer for GRUB?
[06:47] <josh___> not much. working on some homework
[06:47] <atul> just use the application boot manager
[06:47] <atul> do it
[06:47] <inashdeen> hi there, i have a problem. i am using lenovo ideapad s260, i have installed non-free drivers on this ubuntu 12.04, i could connect to wireless network, but i cant get any internet. i could confirm that the line is working and I can connect to the network on another ubuntu
[06:48] <josh___> is your wlan0 interface configured for auto dhcp?
[06:48] <inashdeen> josh____ : yes
[06:49] <josh___> If you haven't already, I would try bringing wlan0 down and bringing it back up...particularly if your network has dhcp reservations. i have had an issue with that before
[06:49] <inashdeen> how is that? i don't understand
[06:50] <josh___> in terminal: ifconfig wlan0 down
[06:50] <josh___> you may need to be sudo
[06:50] <josh___> and then: ifconfig wlan0 up
[06:50] <inashdeen> it says : ERROR while getting interface flags : no such device
[06:50] <SixThousandOwls> I love how Ubuntu forums/chats are always more helpful about everything. Even about other operating systems.
[06:51] <josh___> are you connecting via wireless?
[06:52] <inashdeen> josh___ : a while. I will restart and reconnect and then put it down
[06:53] <josh___> k. That has solved some lack of internet connectivity issues for me in the past. Outside of that, i'm not sure what the issue may be
[06:57] <AznLosty> nope... not in boot manager =/
[06:58] <inashdeen> i have a very confusing problem. my wifi become nuts. Sometimes it connects, sometimes it connects with no internet connection. I am using ubuntu 12.04 on lenovo ideapad s206. any help
[06:59] <Carlinhos> Is there a way to change my user's real name? When I change it in "Users and Groups" it always reverts back to the original. Using Xubuntu.
[07:01] <Benyamin90> hello all
[07:02] <Benyamin90> |-)
[07:09] <themhz> almoxarife,  I just discovered that in nautilus top menu view ->sidebar ->places will reappear my network "place". Without knowing it before I changed it to tree and in tree mode It doesn't display the places :P anyway
[07:17] <robertzaccour> hey yall
[07:18] <blackshirt> hey
[07:19] <inashdeen> could someone help me. My wireless connection so unpredictable. It slow in getting internet connection
[07:20] <jilebedev> Hi there. I've got a package name, and I would acquire it with sudo apt-get install foobar. However, this machine has no internet connection. How do I go about acquiring the .deb file? There must be searchable package repositories for ubuntu, accessible via http?
[07:22] <CQ> hello, any idea when libreoffice 3.6 series will show up in precise? I know quantal is current, but precise is LTS ...
[07:24] <OerHeks> jilebedev, do you want to do an offline install ?
[07:24] <OerHeks> !offline
[07:24] <OerHeks> i would choose apt-on-cd
[07:35] <Karlo_> Trying to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04.1, in maintenance shell, no network.  I'm getting a long list of errors possibly due to a corrupt dpkg database.  What can I do?
[07:36] <Razgul> st
[07:36] <Razgul> Anyone home?
[07:36] <SortiE> ye
[07:36] <Razgul> Got a question.
[07:36] <OerHeks> Karlo_, you need network to upgrade.
[07:37] <Razgul> I'm running Ubuntu 12.10 and I was wondering if there was a port-over of Zello that worked.
[07:38] <Karlo_> If that's true, then the question would be, "How can I bring up the network from single-user mode" -- I did have this machine briefly visible from my main machine on the LAN, but I don't know what I did and I haven't been able to reproduce it.
[07:42] <gabkdlly> Razgul, have you tried running it under Wine ?
[07:42] <Razgul> gabkdlly, Installing it again now. The last time I tried was under 12.04 and everything worked but the login.
[07:45] <Razgul> I get a "Monthly rate exceeded" error, which is odd.
[07:45] <Razgul> Ahh, I see. Apparently they switched it from free to paid. Nevermind then.
[07:50] <gabkdlly> Razgul, there is also imo.im which is web based and has this kind of walkie-talkie feature ( which I have not used, so your milage may vary )
[07:50] <Razgul> Thank you.
[07:51] <jilebedev> I now have a new-found fear and respect for package managers.
[07:52] <Karlo_> Me too.
[07:52] <Karlo_> Though it might be anger and disrespect.
[07:52] <jilebedev> Attempted to do an "usb stick fromw windows to 12.04 server install' wireless install ... sudo dpkg -i a few packages, eh? NOPE. No sir.
[07:53] <jilebedev> It's surprising how easy it is to break things by attempting to install packages by hand ... that are clearly listed for precise pangolin, for the correct cpu architecture. Hargh.
[07:56] <talpur> Hi
[07:58] <talpur> Hi community I want to remove the dirctory jre7.0.1 fro the path /usr/lib/jvm/jre7.0.1 what comannd should I use...
[07:58] <talpur> cd
[07:59] <XRS1> sudo apt-get purge maybe?
[08:00] <talpur> Hi community I want to remove the dirctory jre7.0.1 fro the path /usr/lib/jvm/jre7.0.1 what comannd should I use
[08:00] <XRS1> or sudo apt-get remove?
[08:00] <talpur> XRSI: u write command for me
[08:00] <ar9> does anyone know how to force yakuake to use transparency?
[08:01] <ariel767> hi
[08:02] <ariel767> is anyone able to help me with wifi problems
[08:02] <XRS1> compiz installed?
[08:02] <XRS1> what problems
[08:02] <ariel767> sometimes it works, sometimes it does not
[08:02] <ariel767> i mean sometimes when i turn on the computer, the wifi does work
[08:02] <ariel767> and most times it does not work and
[08:02] <XRS1> pretty generic. what specificly? doesnt see the AP? doesnt connect? connects but no inet?
[08:02] <ariel767> it then keeps showing the connecting symbol at the top
[08:03] <talpur> XRSI:I use the command sudo rmdir but the error comes Directory not empty so..So what swtich I use so the Full directory may remove
[08:03] <ariel767> It does not connect
[08:03] <XRS1> delete the AP and set it up again
[08:04] <ariel767> this is a fresh install of ubuntu we are talking about
[08:04] <XRS1> talpur,  your should probably uninstall the app, not delete it use sudo apt-get remove or sudo apt-get purge
[08:04] <ariel767> and all of the installs i have had over the last year (quite a lot) I have just had dodgy internet
[08:04] <ar9> is there anyway to check with apt-get what programs depend on the package i want? like sudo apt dependencies mplayer
[08:05] <Karlo_> talpur, "rmdir -r" will remove a directory along with its contents (recursively), but it's not clear to me that this is what you should be doing.
[08:05] <XRS1> if your sure you just want to delete it: rmdir /path/to/dir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty
[08:06] <ariel767> What is AP you have told me to set up
[08:06] <XRS1> AP = Access Point (your router)
[08:06] <BYC> hellopat: 哈哈哈
[08:07] <ariel767> what is AP
[08:07] <XRS1> AP = Access Point (your router)
[08:07] <ariel767> reset my router?
[08:07] <XRS1> no
[08:07] <ariel767> I have 2 routers (long story) and it does not work with either
[08:07] <XRS1> go into the wlan0 settings, delete all the remembered access points (routers) and reconnect
[08:08] <ariel767> i have already done that kind of thing#
[08:08] <talpur> Karlo: I want to remove directory "jvm" which is on location /usr/lib/jvm........So kindly write me he commnad to remove it..this directory may contain different directories and files But I want to remove it
[08:08] <ariel767> ive done all sorts of little things like restarting the card, and it never works
[08:08] <XRS1> its probably the card then
[08:08] <ariel767> It is a TL-WN951N
[08:09] <themhz> anyone know any code snippet manager for ubuntu?
[08:09] <XRS1> you could try a diff driver, or NDIS wrapper, or WiCD
[08:09] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[08:09] <Karlo_> talpur, you want to remove *all* of /usr/lib/jvm ?
[08:09] <talpur> Karlo: yes
[08:09] <Karlo_> talpur, sudo rm -r /usr/lib/jvm
[08:10] <ariel767> Can you send me a link to instructions for installing different drivers
[08:10] <XRS1> if your sure you just want to delete it: rmdir /usr/lib/jvm -r --ignore-fail-on-non-empty
[08:11] <ariel767> Can you send me instructions to change wifi drivers
[08:11] <XRS1> there are plenty on the Ubuntu forums
[08:11] <XRS1> and google
[08:11] <XRS1> have trouble, i'll gladly help, but you gotta do something for yourself
[08:12] <XRS1> thats how you learn
[08:14] <talpur> Hi community What is difference between .tar.gz file and only .gz file
[08:15] <fego> talpur: .tat.gz file is archieved whrn zipped ,.gz is a aormal zipped file
[08:16] <fego> .tar.gz*
[08:16] <Karlo_> In genera, foo.bar.gz is a compressed form of foo.bar
[08:16] <Karlo_> l
[08:16] <SwedeMike> talpur: .tar just takes a bunch of files and puts them into an archive, gzip compresses. tar can do both in one run with appropriate flags.
[08:17] <ar9> is there a command line to check reverse dependencies
[08:17] <talpur> fego: So which command we use for .gz file....as for .tar.gz we use tar xvf filename
[08:17] <fego> gzip mainly talpur
[08:18] <Karlo_> "gzip -d x.gz" will replace x.gz with the original file x
[08:18] <talpur> fego: can you write the full cammnad..i have file talpur.gz so what will be the command
[08:19] <dzup> yeah but still you guys never answer his question, whats the difference between .gz and .tzr besides the extenton
[08:19] <fego> gzip talpur, will automatically make a file called talpur.gz
[08:19] <SwedeMike> fego: gunzip talpur.gz will leave you talpur only.
[08:19] <SwedeMike> ba
[08:19] <SwedeMike> meant for talpur
[08:19] <Karlo_> talpur,   gzip -d talpur.gz | file -   will tell you what type of file it is, if you don't already know.
[08:19] <Karlo_> Oops
[08:19] <Karlo_> talpur,   gzip -d <talpur.gz | file -   will tell you what type of file it is, if you don't already know.
[08:20] <Karlo_> (Need the "<" in order to have the effect I intended.)
[08:21] <Karlo_> The answer is that something.gz is (by convention) a compressed form of something.  something.tar.gz is not a special case; it's just a compressed form of something.tar, as per the first answer.
[08:22] <OerHeks> ar9 install apt-rdepends, usage apt-rdepends <package>  ( and see man apt-rdepends )
[08:22] <ar9> OerHeks: thanks
[08:23] <XiaolinDraconis> whats the deal with usb 1.1 ports?
[08:23] <XiaolinDraconis> i unplugged my mouse, couple hours later i plugged it back in and it doesnt get detected
[08:24] <dzup> hmm if is compress as ou said if c¿you compres a file to .gz , then compress that .gz to a .tar.gz ...the actually file its bigger that the original .gz dho
[08:24] <dzup> so, its actually not true
[08:25] <XiaolinDraconis> if its tar.gz wouldnt the tar compression come first then the gzip?
[08:26] <XiaolinDraconis> whats the module name for usb mouse? im wondering if modprobe will enable my mouse
[08:27] <Karlo_> Tar is archival, not compression.
[08:28] <Guestuser2093> hello
[08:28] <Karlo_> It aggregates multiple files into one larger file.
[08:28] <Guestuser2093> use gz
[08:28] <Guestuser2093> So what is this that I hear about amazon-assoc to all of my ubuntu searches?
[08:28] <Karlo_> "compress that .gz to a .tar.gz" -- nobody said this, and it doesn't make sense.
[08:28] <dzup> i think the answer is , both are compress, but .gz is a single file, and .tar its multiple files
[08:29] <Karlo_> .tar is multiple files, not compressed at all.  (The resulting file should always be larger than the sum of the individual file sizes.)
[08:30] <dzup> hats way .tar.gz refers to multiple-files in a single file compress, i guess
[08:30] <Guestuser2093> Right just use gz
[08:30] <Guestuser2093> or 7zip is you really like it I guess
[08:30] <Karlo_> foo.tar.gz is a gzip compression of foo.tar, which is a tar aggregation of something, probably a foo/ directory.
[08:31] <dzup> bases clear, lets move on, please
[08:31] <XiaolinDraconis> anybody know how to fix usb 1.1 not picking up my mouse?
[08:31] <Guestuser2093> so why is ubuntu forwarding some of my search terms queries to amazon?
[08:31] <XiaolinDraconis> works fine at boot
[08:31] <XiaolinDraconis> but after reconnect it wont detect
[08:31] <Guestuser2093> Isn't this a blatant privacy violation ?
[08:32] <XiaolinDraconis> someone thought we wanted unity to act like bing
[08:32] <auronandace> Guestuser2093: you can turn it off
[08:33] <Guestuser2093> auronandace: How? And why is it turned on by default that's my problem.
[08:33] <XiaolinDraconis> because canonical needs money
[08:33] <XiaolinDraconis> simple as that
[08:33] <auronandace> Guestuser2093: system settings privacy
[08:33] <Guestuser2093> Can I make a custom image somehow where it isn't turned on by default? I can no longer recommend this to my boss nor my family anymore.
[08:34] <Guestuser2093> Yea well why not ask for donation like wiki instead but blatantly using user input for petty cash
[08:34] <XiaolinDraconis> you can try "Ubuntu Builder"
[08:35] <auronandace> Guestuser2093: no point complaining here, we just do support, we don't design ubuntu
[08:35] <auronandace> !brainstorm | Guestuser2093
[08:35] <XiaolinDraconis> Guestuser2093, i wouldn't recommend suggesting beta products to friends, that is essentially what .10 release is
[08:35] <Karlo_> I should make a custom version of ubuntu where unrecognized clicks will default to my paypal button.
[08:36] <XiaolinDraconis> genius
[08:36] <Guestuser2093> Yea my bad just irritated that this had to happen my boss wanted to move on to linux and I was gonna help get them running on ubuntu but after he read about this he wants to just move on to windows 8 ugh
[08:36] <XiaolinDraconis> 12.04 doesnt have that
[08:36] <XiaolinDraconis> its a stable release, 12.10 is where the experiments happen
[08:38] <XiaolinDraconis> Guestuser2093, keep in mind not all things with a higher version are of a higher quality
[08:38] <Xix19> hey, I have 2 SSH connections to my server over a high-latency network, one using PuTTY the other using FileZilla. The Putty connection works ok, but the filezilla one keeps disconnecting for some reason
[08:38] <Xix19> how can I make the filezilla connection (sftp) not disconnect so much?
[08:39] <Xix19> it seems to disconnect after every file transfer or after some 30 seconds with Status: Disconnected from server
[08:40] <XiaolinDraconis> what parameter would follow modprobe for detecting a usb mouse
[08:40] <XiaolinDraconis> it wont connect and im looking for an easier solution than a reboot
[08:42] <gpu02> hello
[08:43] <Guestuser2093> gpu02: Hi
[08:43] <anton77> hello
[08:43] <Guestuser2093> Also is there a way for network-manager to start using vpn immidiately on boot?
[08:46] <anton77> how to show list of users in terminal?
[08:46] <gpu02> w
[08:51] <Karlo_> "w" or "who" or "who -u" are good choices, I believe.
[08:52] <Noname> w
[08:53] <Karlo_> (I always rebind "w" -- my philosophy is that the system should never reserve one-letter names for itself.)
[09:00] <Guest92326> exit
[09:01] <italia> hi
[09:02] <Seveas> gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu
[09:04] <italia> hi
[09:05] <italia> are there people here?
[09:05] <Seveas> no, just figments of your imagination
[09:06] <italia> is my first time here?
[09:06] <theadmin> italia: Only you can know that :P
[09:06] <Seveas> theadmin, well, there are logs. We can check :)
[09:06] <theadmin> Seveas: Grepping the whole irclogs.ubuntu.com wouldn't be easy
[09:07] <italia> can you help me, plrase?=
[09:07] <Seveas> italia, that depends on what you need help with :)
[09:07] <Seveas> !ask
[09:08] <italia> could i use whatsapp in ubuntu 12.10?
[09:09] <jarlandre> does it exist any good books and/or videos about Ubuntu 12.04  for people who are clinging on the windows 7 and hates windows 8? i have just installed ubuntu 12.04 on my home computer and my poor wife is not familiar with it
[09:09] <Seveas> hmm, I don't know. whatsapp definitely doesn't provide official clients for linux but there may be usable 3rd party ones by now
[09:09] <theadmin> italia: That's a mobile app... No?
[09:09] <Seveas> jarlandre, there's the official ubuntu book, which does a decent intro
[09:10] <theadmin> jarlandre: Books? http://ubuntu-manual.org, also the official manual included with every Ubuntu installation (see the Help menu on desktop)
[09:10] <jarlandre> ah thanks .. i will take a search for it
[09:10] <Seveas> theadmin, it's defnitely meant for mobile, but people have reversed the protocol and written 3rd party clients, some open source
[09:10] <Seveas> jarlandre, http://www.amazon.com/The-Official-Ubuntu-Book-Edition/dp/0137081308
[09:11] <theadmin> Seveas: I see. I'm not too familiar with it, heck I don't even know what the thing does, I just googled it and it led me to mobile apps so I concluded that it has nothing to do with Ubuntu
[09:11] <Seveas> jarlandre, oh, you'll want http://www.amazon.com/The-Official-Ubuntu-Book-Edition/dp/0133017605/ref=dp_ob_title_bk instead. They're up to edition 7
[09:11] <Seveas> I still have editions 1 and 2, having proofread edition 1 :)
[09:12] <Seveas> theadmin, it's a mobile messaging app. Very popular here in .nl for instance where sms is expensive
[09:12] <theadmin> Well not everyone wants to buy stuff, ubuntu-manual is available freely as a PDF
[09:12] <llutz> whatsapp - wide speaded, highly insecure :(
[09:13] <italia> is my first time here?
[09:13] <Seveas> llutz, yeah, broken as %$%@!^
[09:31] <mgalgs> is there a way to navigate dash suggestions without the arrow keys (e.g. with tab)?
[09:37] <toa> Does Ubuntu Studio work in Windows like main Ubuntu?
[09:37] <tete_> hi, can someone tell me how i can set the default java to openjdk7? i installed it but when i try to do update-alternatives --config java it says: update-alternatives: Warnung: /etc/alternatives/java ist freihängend, wird mit der besten Auswahl aktualisiert. Es gibt nur eine Alternative in Link-Gruppe java: /usr/lib/jvm/default-java/jre/bin/java . Nichts zu konfigurieren.
[09:37] <tete_> but the symlink does not exist to /usr/lib/jvm/default-java/jre/bin/java
[09:38] <llutz> isn't it "update-alternatives --config javac" for jdk? tete_
[09:38] <tete_> ok will try it
[09:38] <tete_> Es gibt nur eine Alternative in Link-Gruppe javac: /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/bin/javac
[09:38] <tete_> Nichts zu konfigurieren.
[09:38] <tete_>  :(
[09:38] <tete_> this means: there is only one alternative in link group javac: ... nothing to configure.
[09:39] <llutz> tete_: 1st please use pastebin 2nd please prepend commands with LANG=C when you paste the output
[09:39] <tete_> i guess something went wrong with the symlinks, because the java in $PATH points to nothing
[09:39] <tete_> ok
[09:39] <tete_> ~pastebin
[09:39] <llutz> !pastebin
[09:39] <tete_> thx ;)
[09:41] <llutz> tete_: have you tried "update-alternatives --set javac"
[09:41] <tete_> javac is working
[09:41] <llutz> java* sry
[09:42] <tete_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1347281/
[09:42] <tete_> when i try your command i only get the help of update-alternatives
[09:43] <n1> can it be that thunderbird 2.0 cannot be installed on ubuntu 12.04?
[09:44] <llutz> n1: it can
[09:44] <llutz> tete_: are you on 64bit and trying to run 32bit java with missing libs?
[09:44] <tete_> its a 64 bit machine running java 64 bit
[09:44] <tete_> i removed default-jre because this was openjdk6 but i want 7
[09:45] <tete_> so i installed the openjdk-7-jre
[09:45] <n1> llutz there is the .bin file in the folder, though I canoot run it. Set everything in the properties, but doesn't start
[09:45] <tete_> but hm something went horrible wrong ^^
[09:45] <tete_> n1, try to chmod a+x the bin and run in a terminal
[09:45] <tete_> then you can paste the output
[09:45] <sbose78> Hi, I'm Shoubhik.  I have Ubuntu 10.10 installed . I'm downloading the image for 12.04  . How do I upgrade my system without losing any data?
[09:46] <DemonWitch> hey i am using emesene and it supports gtalk and facebook but not msn. WTF
[09:46] <DemonWitch> how can i connect to msn with emesene2 ?
[09:46] <simplew> how is possible to report a bug about the package network-manager? i have checked in launchpad and isnt possible
[09:47] <llutz> n1: cd /path/to/thunderbird ; chmod +x ./run-mozilla.sh ; ./run-mozilla.sh"
[09:48] <llutz> n1: or "cd /path/to/thunderbird ; chmod +x thunderbird ; ./thunderbird"
[09:49] <llutz> n1: and still, as you've been told already: it is not a goot idea to use an outdated version like this
[09:49] <bazhang> n1, install tbird from the repos
[09:49] <bazhang> !info thunderbird | n1
[09:50] <DemonWitch> can i use emesene with msn
[09:50] <DemonWitch> or are their devs retarded?
[09:50] <bazhang> DemonWitch, lose the attitude and language
[09:53] <simplew> DemonWitch: depends
[09:53] <simplew> DemonWitch: but you cant use msn directly in linux, you need a client
[09:54] <defekt> !pigeon
[09:54] <n1> llutz n1n0@lap:~/thunderbird$ chmod +x thunderbird n1n0@lap:~/thunderbird$ ./thunderbird ./thunderbird-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory n1n0@lap:~/thunderbird$
[09:55] <llutz> !find libstdc++.so.5  | n1
[09:55] <harry1111> hez
[09:55] <harry1111> hey
[09:55] <DemonWitch> bazhang, nope
[09:55] <bazhang> DemonWitch, nope what
[09:55] <simplew> DemonWitch: why not?
[09:55] <harry1111> can somebody give me instructions how can i restore my programms and packets
[09:56] <bazhang> harry1111, restore from what
[09:56] <llutz> harry1111: restore from what
[09:56] <Erealz> is there a ubuntu security channel?
[09:56] <simplew> DemonWitch: i never used emesene
[09:56] <n1> llutz ubottu n1n0@lap:~/thunderbird$ !find libstdc++.so.5 find . -name "*.bin" libstdc++.so.5 find: paths must precede expression: libstdc++.so.5 Usage: find [-H] [-L] [-P] [-Olevel] [-D help|tree|search|stat|rates|opt|exec] [path...] [expression]
[09:56] <bazhang> Erealz, this is it
[09:56] <llutz> n1: sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[09:56] <Erealz> ok cool just checking
[09:56] <simplew> DemonWitch: try pidgin
[09:56] <DemonWitch> i cant even add a new protocol/server in emesene. SO annoying
[09:57] <harry1111> i had installed an win os after the ubuntu os. so i restored my user bit my applications and settings are awaz
[09:57] <simplew> DemonWitch: try pidgin
[09:57] <DemonWitch> i dont like pidgin
[09:58] <simplew> i use kde-telepathy
[09:58] <harry1111> everything i tried found in google has no affect
[09:58] <DemonWitch> how can i find where emesene saves its configs?
[09:58] <ikonia> DemonWitch: the documentation
[09:58] <bazhang> harry1111, awaz?   did you update-grub? are you able to boot into both ubuntu and windows?
[09:58] <simplew> ikonia: its not in docs
[09:58] <DemonWitch> ikonia, you again
[09:59] <ikonia> simplew: the documentation doesn't show where to save it's configs
[09:59] <ikonia> DemonWitch: you may also try command --help see if there is an option to specify
[09:59] <ikonia> simplew: is it a compile option where the config file is located ?
[10:00] <n1> llutz ubottu tete, thanx a million, hope will be able tu install an addon, if not will be boring again
[10:01] <simplew> i have a itch
[10:01] <harry1111> no body _
[10:01] <bazhang> simplew, pardon?
[10:01] <N03L> Hey fellas.
[10:01] <DemonWitch> the correct way to become root, is su - root , su, or su - ?
[10:01] <llutz> DemonWitch: sudo -i
[10:01] <bazhang> harry1111, I asked you a question, please answer
[10:01] <DemonWitch> i never sudo
[10:01] <ikonia> DemonWitch: neither
[10:01] <N03L> Does anyone know how to change the start-up sound for ubuntu?
[10:01] <ikonia> DemonWitch: su  is not used in ubuntu
[10:01] <llutz> your problem
[10:02] <DemonWitch> i have enabled it
[10:02] <ikonia> DemonWitch: then you should know what you are doing
[10:02] <DemonWitch> su is used everywhere in gnu/linux and for some reason i am not allowed here
[10:02] <ikonia> DemonWitch: we don't support you using "su" as it's not the ubuntu designed security model
[10:02] <defekt> DemonWitch: sudo -i
[10:02] <DemonWitch> what is sudo -i
[10:02] <llutz> man sudo DemonWitch
[10:02] <ikonia> DemonWitch: you are "allowed" to do what you wish, but we don't support it
[10:02] <akakcolin_> try "sudo -s"
[10:03] <ikonia> DemonWitch: it's the same funcationality as "su" for root, however within the ubuntu security design
[10:03] <ikonia> DemonWitch: man sudo will give you the options (possibly some you've not heard of before)
[10:04] <bazhang>  harry1111, awaz?   did you update-grub? are you able to boot into both ubuntu and windows?
[10:07] <punto> hi.. how can I tell which version of the nvidia driver I'm using?
[10:08] <n1> llutz will I alway have to open it via termianal? is there a way to create the icon, as when opening it via chmod +x some addons are there, yet "will be available when t.bird restarted"
[10:09] <llutz> n1: create a .desktop-file for it
[10:09] <Walex2> punto: form the log file, usually '/var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[10:12] <harry1111> mmhh
[10:16] <n1> llutz thanks again!
[10:18] <daidai> how to download ed2k file?amule?
[10:18] <robinp> how do I create a symlink (the ubuntu folder) on a CD-image
[10:19] <ikonia> robinp: you can't
[10:19] <ikonia> robinp: the cd is "read only"
[10:19] <ikonia> robinp: so that will stop you creating anything on it
[10:19] <robinp> ikonia: i am trying to make a EFI boot disk - I copied everything onto my USB drive *other* than the ubuntu symlinked folder
[10:20] <Brustofski-Fan> Whats up with ubuntu 12.10 gnome shell remix... after installed had to use acpi=off  get gnome shell... installed jockey can't get that to work so install ati drive command line... gnome shell boots into gnome classic.. installed ubuntu desktop... unity just logs into a blank screen
[10:20] <ikonia> robinp: is there not a process for this in the ubuntu wiki
[10:21] <robinp> ikonia: no the wiki wants me to make a mess of my disk portioning and then repair it later
[10:22] <ikonia> robinp: well you're not going to be able to make a link on a cd image,
[10:22] <bhavesh> I have the same problem as here http://askubuntu.com/questions/202574/desktop-does-not-show-when-i-installed-nvidia-drivers , I reinstalled ubuntu 12.10, still did not install the non working drivers. I want to install them should I install linux source and install nvidia-current-updates?
[10:22] <DemonWitch> ikonia, you deserve a watery grave
[10:22] <robinp> ikonia: so how did the symlink on the existing CD image get there ?
[10:23] <Whiskey> Someone heregood on PHP??
[10:23] <ikonia> robinp: when the CD "image" was made the link was there, if you want to alter that you'll have to re-build the whole image (it's in squash fs)
[10:23] <ikonia> Whiskey: the guys in ##php
[10:24] <Kartagis> Whiskey: everyone on ##php is good with PHP
[10:24] <bhavesh> lol
[10:24] <the_dark_knight> Hi, In mysql table there is a new line at the end of one of my field in every row. when I search it where and "=" and "like" it gives me Empty set. How do I use the condition without worrying about the newline.
[10:25] <Kartagis> the_dark_knight: #mysql
[10:28] <simone> ciao
[10:28] <simone> !list
[10:28] <fego> tahts right
[10:29] <simone> !alis
[10:36] <harry1111> hey there
[10:36] <harry1111> can somebody help to fix my problem