[15:21] <Etale> How close is Sabayon to the Ubuntu experience?
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> vexaxv:  or switch to a non us server.
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: my quantal install does that, sloooow over wifi
[15:21] <L3top> !poll | Etale
[15:21] <vexaxv> Dr_Willis, thanks, and how do i switch?
[15:21] <g0th> in unity, how do I make it that if I fullscreen a window it is put on the "right side" of the left panel?
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> vexaxv:  not sure of the proper way these days
[15:21] <g0th> at the moment the panel will appear on top of the window
[15:21] <vexaxv> Dr_Willis, k well ill keep trying thanks man just got off my 14 hour shift so sweet and simple answer :P
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> vexaxv: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure  see step 5
[15:22] <maddinw> Its me again. It worked now. Thank you very much Dr_Willis and flowerpot.
[15:22] <tieinv> Dr_Willis: sudo apt-get update   Fetched 6,687 kB in 1min 1s (108 kB/s) :)
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> there used to be a mirrorselect tool
[15:22] <L3top> Dr_Willis: I think something funny is going on with the repos. People have been complaining the last few days about speed.
[15:22] <g0th> is there a configuration tool about how the panel behaves with respect to a (fullscreened or not) window
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> tieinv:  i was getting stuff in B/sec the other day
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[15:23] <MestreLion> Sidewinder: I'm aware of that. And I think that nowadays Synaptics is a little lost... newbies prefer SC, and it's great because of the reviews (if you don't know *what* you want, you search for it). Skilled users go Aptitude or apt-get. So Synaptics use-case now is a bit weak
[15:23] <L3top> You can add deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt  $DISTRO main restricted universe multiverse    et al to the top of your /etc/apt/sources.list and it will find the closest best it can
[15:23] <MestreLion> even aptitude has an experimental gtk frontend
[15:24] <L3top> replacing $DISTRO with your distribution.
[15:24] <morsnowski> is there a specific make or model for hybrid TV cards that runs on ubuntu with the least amount of wrestling?
[15:24] <Sidewinder> MestreLion, As you so accurately stated earlier, it's all about choices. :)
[15:24] <Etale> Okay... Look, I'm a novice. I want to install something that is bare-bones but has the potential to be customized to the point of being easy to use. (Which also means that I want the possibility of using binary packages as opposed to bare-bones Gentoo.) Since this is an Ubuntu chatroom, I figured it would be a good place to get advice about Ubuntu-related distros. Ultimately, after some
[15:24] <Etale> customization, I want an Ubuntu-like environment. But I would also like to be bare-bones and customizable and for it to have a very good repository of packages.
[15:24] <knutremi> I'm better off posting about my gedit + FTP problem in the Ubuntu forums right?
[15:24] <theadmin> Etale: Use the minimal Ubuntu setup, simple as that -- install only things you want from that point on
[15:24] <deejay31> Yay I finally managed to transfer all my stuff to ubuntu
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> Etale: install ubuntu minimal then install fluxbox, its as barebomes a desktop as it goes
[15:25] <Etale> theadmin, thanks.
[15:25] <MestreLion> so for me synaptics is a weak software... it is less friendly than SC, it has no reviews, and it has less features than aptitude or apt-get
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Etale: did say that earlier...
[15:25] <L3top> This channel is for tech support of ubuntu. Asking whether or not you should install other distributions is not its purpose Etale.  Try ubuntu-offtopic or bots.
[15:25] <Etale> In what sense is bare-bones Ubuntu different from bare-bones Debian? Does Debian also have same repository for apt-get, but also has more customizability?
[15:26] <Sidewinder> knutremi, That would be my suggestion; if your question is not answered to your satisfaction here, try ubuntuforms.org.
[15:26] <Etale> Okay, L3top.
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> Etale: ubuntu and debian repos are seperate
[15:26] <Karmaon> is ppa.launchpad.net down?
[15:26] <Etale> ActionParsnip, which is bigger?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> Etale: no idea, why do you care?
[15:26] <Sidewinder> oops, ubuntuforums.org.   Sorry. :(
[15:26] <MestreLion> Etale: both have live CDs... try them out
[15:26] <Etale> The more the better.
[15:26] <theadmin> Etale: Debian and Ubuntu are *unrelated*. They use different repositories, Debian is much less up-to-date most of the time (especially the "stable" branch), the two are incompatible.
[15:27] <Etale> Okay.
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> Etale: not strictly
[15:27] <MestreLion> "debian is less up-to-date" is very innacurate info. unstable and testing are usually much more up-to-date than Ubuntu, since they are rolling repos
[15:27] <L3top> http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ Karmaon
[15:27] <L3top> looks like it is
[15:28] <flowerpot> maddinw, pleasure to be of help
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> Etale: Ubuntu could compile every app with minimal functionality, then Debian could compile the same with every feature enabled with zero optomisation. Which is better?
[15:28] <theadmin> MestreLion: I *did* mention the stable branch specifically.
[15:28] <MestreLion> Etale: mos of your questions are easily answered by either google OR by trying out their live CD.
[15:28] <y0wy-> Karmaon: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ppa.launchpad.net
[15:28] <amirzaim_> Even though that Ubuntu is based from Debian, but both Ubuntu and Debian are not same. They have some different function and features.
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> Karmaon: do you mean this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas works here
[15:29] <theadmin> However, please note that this channel is for Ubuntu support *only*, Debian (and especially stuff like Gentoo) are highly offtopic here
[15:29] <Karmaon> ActionParsnip: no the repositories are down, so i can't update some of my packages
[15:29] <Krenair> Is there any easy way to have two versions of a package (e.g. google-chrome-stable and google-chrome-unstable) installed at the same time?
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> Karmaon: then hang while they come up, could ask in #launchpad
[15:29] <MestreLion> theadmin: you said "specially", not "specifically. Debian's Testing and Unstable repos are always more bleeding edge than Ubuntu's, by definition. They are rolling distros, Ubuntu is not
[15:30] <theadmin> MestreLion: Bah, pardon my wording. Well yes, you're right. However, please look at my previous message. Debian is offtopic here.
[15:31] <MestreLion> youre right. I also suggested Etale to either google or to try live cds... much better than asking here
[15:31] <flowerpot> Krenair, http://serverfault.com/questions/279329/can-i-have-two-versions-of-the-same-package-in-an-apt-repository
[15:32] <xtu> hi, how to read new in command line in ubuntu?
[15:32] <flowerpot> Krenair, see the "Caveat" in the reply
[15:32] <MestreLion> So, back to Ubuntu... anyone experienced in troubleshooting one of its flagship products, the Software Center? I would like where it stores its settings, how can I reset it, and find out why some settings are not "sticking"
[15:32] <flowerpot> xtu, what do you mean by "read new in command"?
[15:33] <Orpheon> also to ubuntu, where could I get some 32-bit opengl libraries?
[15:33] <Orpheon> Wine needs them apparently
[15:33] <xtu> flowerpot,  well, i want to read news in command line, or in console, not gui.
[15:34] <MestreLion> Orpheon: doesn't apt-get wine download them automatically?
[15:34] <Orpheon> well
[15:34] <Orpheon> I tried reinstalling wine
[15:34] <Orpheon> but it still complains that it can't initialize opengl
[15:34] <Orpheon> people in #winehq have been saying that's because I'm lacking opengl 32 bit libs
[15:34] <L3top> Orpheon: have you gone into wine configuration? I don't really use it, but you may have to tick something there
[15:34] <Orpheon> well, yeah
[15:35] <compdoc> is opengl something you have to install seperatly?
[15:35] <Orpheon> there isn't anything besides enabling/disabling hardware acceleration that has anything to do with this
[15:35] <Orpheon> also
[15:35] <naxil> hello
[15:35] <Orpheon> I tried editing the wine registry, DirectDrawRenderer to gdi
[15:35] <Orpheon> didn't work either
[15:35] <naxil> i need a little help
[15:36] <naxil> for enter on monitor setup from Terminal? i have cancel the "monitor Setup" from panel (gnome)
[15:36] <Deihmos> isn't it strange that ubuntu works much better virtually that installed on my laptop? WHen I install it my fans go crazy, sound barely works and a host of other problems
[15:36] <flowerpot> xtu, you would use  a newsreader, i imagine.  tons of newsreaders are available on ubuntu; since i don't use them myself i cannot recommend any, but google probably can.
[15:36] <sirriffsalot> L3top: I wonder... i've got cpufreq installed, but I can't get it to run at 2.40Ghz, it always goes back to 1.20ghz or so... Is there a graphical user interface for configuring this?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> Deihmos: probably some weird acpi
[15:37] <xtu> flowerpot, ok, i got it, thanks.
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Deihmos: is it an acer or an alienware?
[15:37] <Deihmos> I have an HP envy that has two video cards
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Deihmos: that'll do it too
[15:37] <vexaxv> anyone know why in ubuntu 12.04 the shutdown process hangs? im forced to hold down my power button..kinda annoying..
[15:37] <L3top> sirriffsalot: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i cores
[15:37] <flowerpot> vexaxv, does it hang when you run shutdown -h now from a terminal?
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> vexaxv: if you run: sudo shutdown -h now     does it die?
[15:38] <vexaxv> errr..lemme try
[15:38] <vexaxv> ill get back to u guys in a sec
[15:38] <xtu> hi, is usernet is not free to use?
[15:38] <angel282> Hello, I recently got a dedicated server with ubuntu 10.04 LTS (lucid) and I was wondering if it possible to upgrade the server to higher version using the ssh and idea? or good tutorial?
[15:38] <vexaxv> no
[15:39] <sirriffsalot> L3top: cpu cores    : 2 cpu cores    : 2
[15:39] <vexaxv> Try `shutdown --help' for more information. thats what i get
[15:39] <zykotick9> vexaxv: try "sudo shutdown -P now", if -h doesn't work
[15:39] <deejay31> Hey
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | angel282
[15:39] <vexaxv> nope
[15:39] <vexaxv> wont shutdown
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> angel282: you can upgrade straight to precise from lucid
[15:40] <deejay31> Who here uses a ZNC
[15:40] <theadmin> vexaxv: Try appending "reboot=bios" to the kernel line.
[15:40] <vexaxv> if i click shutdown it hangs at the ubuntu loading splash screen
[15:40] <IdleOne> deejay31: people in #znc do
[15:40] <vexaxv> k i did
[15:40] <deejay31> Oh ok
[15:40] <deejay31> Grrrr
[15:41] <Kaduptm> vexaxv try this: sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[15:41] <zykotick9> !gksudo | Kaduptm vexaxv
[15:42] <maikls> hi. were ubuntu saves wifi config? Like I made adhoc AP, but I want to see the config file. Were should I look for it?
[15:42] <sirriffsalot> L3top: what was that for?:D
[15:42] <theadmin> Kaduptm: Please refrain from using "sudo" and "su" for graphical applications. Use their GUI counterparts, "gksudo" and "gksu".
[15:42] <Kaduptm> and change: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet acpi=force"
[15:42] <zykotick9> maikls: Network Manager doesn't save the wireless to a file... it's stored in a protected database (by default)
[15:43] <Kaduptm> ok... my bad
[15:43] <flowerpot> maikls, not sure what you mean by "wifi config," but the DHCP config stuff is located in files like /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient-2203de08-09c1-4415-a03c-882ba4217f8c-eth0.lease
[15:43] <vexaxv> k now what
[15:43] <flowerpot> there should be an entry for your wlan
[15:43] <L3top> sirriffsalot: I am not sure... I am having a senior moment, I don't know if that 2.4 is supposed to be cumulative of the multiple cores, or if what you are reading should be the combined speed. I am still waking up... I am grabbing cpufreq now, have never used it.
[15:43] <maikls> flowerpot: thx, zykotick9  - i dont need password, I just want to see how that ad-hoc configuration looks in .conf file
[15:43] <vexaxv> Kaduptm, now what
[15:43] <sirriffsalot> L3top: cool! Thanks for your time!
[15:44] <angel282> ActionParsnip: Great... action.. I tried to upgrade using the "sudo do-release-upgrade" command but I get "no new release found. I think it because the hosting company changed the sources.list any idea? should I changed it back to the ubuntu main source.list?
[15:44] <flowerpot> maikls, maybe the ip command?
[15:44] <zykotick9> angel282: LTS->LTS Upgrades aren't offerend (by default) until the point release (sometime next couple of months)
[15:45] <zykotick9> !schedule | angel282
[15:46] <maikls> flowerpot: that gives me not what I want. The whole idea is - I'm runing gentoo but on 2nd laptop ubuntu. And I just not cannot make working adhoc on gentoo system, but on ubuntu its working like a charm. I just want to se what i'm doing wrong in gentoo - to compare  both .conf files.
[15:46] <L3top> wow repos are braindamage slow...
[15:46] <sirriffsalot> :D
[15:46] <L3top> sirriffsalot: not to be silly... but is your scaling multiplier right in bios?
[15:47] <sirriffsalot> L3top: qué?
[15:47] <maikls> flowerpot: in gentoo it saves it in /etc/conf.d/net
[15:47] <maikls> but in ubuntu it is empty
[15:47] <y0wy-> maikls, did u try: ps aux, just to see the command?
[15:47] <sirriffsalot> L3top: the bios I have in this computer is dated 2009 ... might be outdated, but how do I check if that is so?
[15:48] <maikls> y0wy-: what does ps aux do? ;/
[15:48] <flowerpot> try ps - ef
[15:48] <zykotick9> maikls: i realize you don't believe me (or don't want to) - but N-M doesn't save stuff to config files...
[15:48] <maikls> zykotick9:  ok, will try in different way
[15:48] <L3top> the multiplier in bios which sets the clock speed... bioses can be very diffrerent. I would look at a manual for your board/computer
[15:49] <theadmin> zykotick9: Uh, in Linux everything is a file. Even if NetworkManager uses some awkward gnome pseudo-registry thing such as dconf or gconf, those still store their data in files. If not those, what else?
[15:49] <sirriffsalot> L3top: not sure there is a function of that kind in my bios at all...
[15:49] <zykotick9> theadmin: yes yes - thanks for that totally unhelpful comment ;)
[15:49] <jm> in unix, even Jesus is a file
[15:49] <theadmin> zykotick9: No, I'm just trying to understand your point -- *where* does NetworkManager store configuration?
[15:50] <Kaduptm> anyone have this problem?! ubuntu tweak 0.7.1 doesnt save cong after reboot...
[15:51] <zykotick9> theadmin: N-M reliese on some DM protected files (somewhere).  N-M can't do wireless without GDM/LightDM/KDM/etc. because of the permissions on saving the wireless info/credentials
[15:51] <L3top> there pretty much has to be... if it can take different chips... I mean... maybe ions dont have them or integrated cpus... I dont know... I don't use those guys as anything but plug n play slim clients... I open the bios and set it to pxe boot and thats it.
[15:51] <theadmin> zykotick9: Now *that* is one weird way to store configurations, indeed >.<
[15:51] <zykotick9> theadmin: i have a word for it - but it's not #ubuntu permitted ;)
[15:52] <sirriffsalot> L3top: checking again then... rebooting:D
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> Kaduptm: I suggest you contact the ubuntu tweak maintainers
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: ${HOME}/.gconf/system/networking/connections/   according to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1043039
[15:54] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Hm, but that's just gnome's gconf thing
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: sure
[15:55] <vitald> Hello, can someone help me with setup a microphone?
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> !details | vitald
[15:58] <AminosAmigos> Hello
[15:58] <naxil> hello
[15:58] <vitald> I'm running Xubuntu 12.04 (updated). When I try to record a sound through my microphone I got a noise. I tried it in Audacity
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> vitald: is it anything like the original sound?
[15:58] <naxil> please i have a strange problem. I see the name of my monitor (i have two monitor). What i can do for not see the name on screen? i use gnome 10.04
[15:58] <bedreamer> Anybody mind if I use this channel to learn about IRC
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> vitald: is the microphone part of a laptop?
[15:58] <AminosAmigos> is it possible to reposition the icons in th unity launcher ?
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> AminosAmigos: sure, long click then move it up or down
[15:59] <maddinw> Hello again...
[15:59] <sirriffsalot> L3top: I really can't find any such function in the BIOS...
[15:59] <vitald> mic isn't on laptop, sound is but with noise
[16:00] <L3top> sirriffsalot: where are you getting the 1.2 from?
[16:00] <sirriffsalot> Running an acer aspire x3200machine ..
[16:00] <AminosAmigos> LoL at first it only moved the hole launcher but now it worked strange :D thnx ActionParsnip
[16:00] <sirriffsalot> L3top: The 1.2?
[16:00] <maddinw> I have been here a bit before and I would like to ask another question.
[16:00] <L3top> ghz.
[16:00] <sirriffsalot> L3top: Ah, from cpufreq-info -m
[16:00] <deejay31> How can I remove the ubuntu documentation message on logon?
[16:00] <maddinw> flowerpot: maybe you remember me ;)
[16:01] <maddinw> I have taken flowerpots advice and put the command to open the tunnel into ~/.bashrc
[16:01] <sirriffsalot> L3top: it shows two "analyzing CPU:" sections and both say "current CPU frequency is 1.20 GHz."
[16:01] <maddinw> But not when I open up a console it throws an error message that it can't listen to the port the tunnel runs on.
[16:02] <maddinw> .peak
[16:02] <bedreamer> I'm using irsii. Is it easy to suppress all the 'has joined' messages?
[16:03] <zykotick9> !quietirssii | bedreamer
[16:03] <maddinw> Is there any way I can make it check for an existing tunnel and not try to open it if it finds one?
[16:03] <zykotick9> !quietirssi | bedreamer
[16:03] <small> it's very hard to find new soft which i just installed at ubuntu 12.04
[16:03] <small> hard to use
[16:03] <sirriffsalot> L3top: you given up too?:D
[16:04] <theadmin> bedreamer: /ignore * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[16:04] <Orpheon> does anyone have any more ideas for my wine/opengl problems?
[16:04] <bedreamer> Thanks ubottu. Much better :-)
[16:04] <sirriffsalot> Orpheon: what's the problem?
[16:04] <naxil> bedreamer not run
[16:04] <L3top> sirriffsalot: no... I am trying to figure out how to use this tool... and I am in a few other chats atm.. just be patient with me.
[16:04] <Orpheon> I run some exe with wine through console: this error log
[16:05] <zykotick9> theadmin: i didn't know you could wildcard the channel!  thanks!
[16:05] <sirriffsalot> L3top: I do apologize, haha:)
[16:05] <Orpheon> http://pastebin.com/RHEqt9xD
[16:05] <Orpheon> in particular, three lines
[16:05] <theadmin> zykotick9: lol um, no problem?
[16:05] <sirriffsalot> Orpheon: what exe?
[16:05] <Orpheon> 345
[16:05] <Orpheon> a game
[16:05] <L3top> sirriffsalot: all I have available is cpufreqd... and that command is not recognized... and... I am very tired.
[16:05] <Orpheon> made in Game Maker
[16:05] <naxil> hello
[16:05] <Orpheon> it worked before an update I made a few days ago
[16:05] <sirriffsalot> Orpheon: oh, hmm
[16:06] <Orpheon> ubuntu 12.04 64-bit here
[16:06] <sirriffsalot> L3top: alright, sleep well:)
[16:06] <sirriffsalot> Orpheon: You're trying to run your own made game?
[16:06] <Orpheon> good night
[16:06] <Orpheon> well, almost
[16:06] <Orpheon> yes
[16:06] <Orpheon> I use it as a test now
[16:06] <Orpheon> because it's always worked before
[16:06] <L3top> sirriffsalot: I am still working... just not waking up... I can't sleep atm...
[16:07] <Orpheon> and because it takes little time to execute
[16:07] <mafiaboy> ubuntu 12.04 too unstable for now as compared to 10.04
[16:07] <DoctorMonocular> hey L3Top, a little update -- I tried putting that new config info into .bash_profile, and .profile, and I thought I'd cracked the case when I found at the end of my .bashrc file a line refining the PATH, but removing that didn't help. So I'm still at the point where I can run ruby if I manually source bash_profile when I open a terminal, and I still can't run rails because it's looking for a wonky path to ruby1.8. What do you
[16:07] <DoctorMonocular> think could cause bash_profile to not load?
[16:07] <sirriffsalot> L3top: oh, well don't beat yourself up, I'm happy!
[16:07] <Orpheon> Game Maker itself, or programs that do not use directX, run well
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> mafiaboy: look at how mature Lucid is compared to Precise
[16:07] <Darael> Having a problem on several machines since they were upgraded to Precise.  The settings for keyboard layouts are ignored, and the layout is permamently set to whatever the default for that account was before the upgrade, but behaves as though all the check-boxes under "options" were unset.  The other layouts I have configured are selectable from the indicator, but doing so has sod all effect.  That means I can't access QWERTY layouts
[16:07] <L3top> wolfcore might be able to help you... I was unaware of bash_profiles existence/use
[16:07] <sirriffsalot> Orpheon: Hmm, wine is very explicit in detailing events, most of those lines are insignificant to the actual problem as far as I  know... But I really have no idea how what you're trying to do works
[16:08] <DoctorMonocular> L3top, is he around?
[16:08] <mafiaboy> ActionParsnip : yea but i switched to it thinking that it would be stable
[16:08] <sirriffsalot> Orpheon: only thing I can suggest is to undo what you did to when it was working
[16:08] <mafiaboy> crashes a lot
[16:08] <Orpheon> sirriffsalot: I tried un- and reinstalling pretty much everything I could possibly think of
[16:08] <Orpheon> asking around
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> mafiaboy: upgrade or clean install?
[16:08] <Orpheon> and googling around
[16:08] <sirriffsalot> Orpheon: backup files, reinstall entire ubuntu?:)
[16:08] <Orpheon> most of the people told me I need a 32-bit opengl lib
[16:08] <L3top> he does not make me aware of his whereabouts since he got loose from his chain.
[16:09] <Orpheon> I have backups of /home and /usr
[16:09] <Orpheon> of a month ago
[16:09] <Darael> DoctorMonocular: As I recall, .profile and family only load in a login shell, which your standard terminal emulator is not.  Stick the lines (whatever they are; I just came in) in .bashrc instead?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Orpheon: backup /etc too
[16:09] <Orpheon> I'll do so from now on, ok
[16:09] <Orpheon> also
[16:10] <Orpheon> I tried copy-pasting some libs from the backup into my current /usr
[16:10] <flowerpot> maddinw, yes
[16:10] <Orpheon> is this bad?
[16:10] <DoctorMonocular> L3top, you need to keep track of these things man, you're falling down on the job here
[16:10] <mafiaboy> ActionParsnip : i did a fresh install
[16:10] <Prsm> Where should I go for general computer talk?
[16:11] <L3top> sirriffsalot: cat /proc/cpu | grep -i mhz
[16:11] <flowerpot> One way to check, if you're using IPv4, would be: lsof -i 4TCP@remotehost:22
[16:11] <sirriffsalot> L3top: cat: /proc/cpu: No such file or directory
[16:11] <L3top> sirriffsalot: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i mhz
[16:11] <L3top> sorry
[16:11] <sirriffsalot> L3top: mate, you're helping a lot of people, great, but sleep is important!!
[16:11] <Orpheon> 8 hours per sleep
[16:12] <Orpheon> is what you usually need
[16:12] <L3top> I am in charge of a baby... cant sleep.
[16:12] <DoctorMonocular> Darael, yeah I did that, and it works, but I was afraid I was doing something wrong, I'm really new to all this and I don't know exactly where stuff should sit
[16:12] <sirriffsalot> L3top: cpu MHz        : 1200.000 power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate cpu MHz        : 1200.000 power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate
[16:12] <flowerpot> 4 - specifies IPv4 (6 would specify IPv6).  TCP - specifies TCP (as opposed to UDP).  @remotehost - the hostname of the remote host.  :22 - specifies the port, in this case 22 for ssh
[16:12] <ugur> hede
[16:12] <sirriffsalot> L3top: should have slept before that then=(
[16:13] <Prsm> can someone please telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 50007 and see if it works?
[16:14] <L3top> speaking of which he is waking up, so I will be less avail... look for a manual on your PC and check bios settings explained there sirriffsalot... afk
[16:14] <jellybellie> Im using Ubuntu classic, 12.04, And IM stuck in chinese. PLEASE HELP.
[16:14] <sirriffsalot> L3top: cheers:)
[16:14] <Diddy403> Im having a problem where I don't have an option for Appearance --> Visual Effects on Ubuntu. I have installed the AMD Proprietary Driver and all is working, but I cant add visual effects
[16:14] <jellybellie> some in english, most in chinese
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> Merceng: connects ok
[16:15] <jellybellie> gnome-shell actually
[16:15] <theadmin> Merceng: I connected, but it doesn't ask for anything, just a hanging connection
[16:15] <jellybellie> no idea why it switched
[16:15] <Merceng> ok
[16:15] <Merceng> disconnect please
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> Merceng: done
[16:15] <Merceng> it's spamming me for some reason
[16:15] <theadmin> Merceng: Done.
[16:16] <jellybellie> I dont speak chinese :(
[16:16] <Merceng> <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:16] <Merceng> please d/c
[16:16] <terafl0ps> jellybellie, can you click on your username in the upper right hand corner and open "system settings"
[16:17] <terafl0ps> There should be a "language support" option in there.
[16:17] <armence>  /join #python-dev
[16:17] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: I can get terminal
[16:17] <jellybellie> I think its gnome-shell
[16:17] <shukty> hi i need a fast hint ... i lost some files  and i need them back. .... os windows7 ( not this computer .... )
[16:17] <sw0rdfish> hey my wifi network is the one that has internet... and so if I connect to it and connect to a LAN with an ethernet cable will my 12.04 automatically figure out which one has internet?
[16:18] <Darael> Having a problem on several machines since they were upgraded to Precise.  The settings for keyboard layouts are ignored, and the layout is permamently set to whatever the default for that account was before the upgrade, but behaves as though all the check-boxes under "options" were unset.  The other layouts I have configured are selectable from the indicator, but doing so has sod all effect.  That means I can't access QWERTY layouts
[16:18] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: got it
[16:18] <sw0rdfish> and use that for internet?
[16:18] <Diddy403> Im having a problem where I don't have an option for Appearance --> Visual Effects on Ubuntu. I have installed the AMD Proprietary Driver and all is working, but I cant add visual effects. Using Precise
[16:18] <terafl0ps> jellybellie: Great, did everything switch back to English?
[16:18] <theadmin> shukty: Windows is not supported here, try ##windows (other than that, Testdisk (Photorec, rather), Recuva and some other file recovery software can help)
[16:18] <jellybellie> no
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> shukty: use your backups, windows support is in ##windows
[16:20] <sw0rdfish> hey my wifi network is the one that has internet... and so if I connect to it and connect to a LAN with an ethernet cable will my 12.04 automatically figure out which one has internet? .... and use that for internet?
[16:20] <terafl0ps> jellybellie: if you go into "install/remove languages" what languages are checked ?
[16:20] <kjm> ##windows
[16:20] <Darael> jellybellie: I'm not entirely sure about gnome-shell, but the Unity search will often match the English name even when you're in another language, so searching for "language" will usually turn the language-settings tool up.
[16:21] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: not sure
[16:21] <jellybellie> in chinese, most, except top three
[16:21] <sw0rdfish> and I'm hoping I could share the wifi internet with my desktop (either through a LAN router or connect them directly to each other)
[16:21] <theadmin> !ics | sw0rdfish
[16:22] <Diddy403> !compiz
[16:22] <delac> Mobile broadband (3G usb stick) is always disabled on boot or after inserting the stick. This prevents the connection from starting automatically. Any way to set Mobile broadband to enabled by default?
[16:22] <abhijitrucks> hi
[16:22] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: how many down is english?
[16:22] <abhijitrucks> how do i change launcher hot edge to bottom cornor?
[16:22] <flowerpot> maddinw, you can also use netstat to check what processes are using what tcp ports (over ipv4) with: netstat -4tap
[16:23] <jellybellie> I see Chhattisgarhi, chinese, Min Nan, Mari, Eastern, Shuswap, and Walser, the rest of the list is in chinese
[16:23] <maddinw> flowerpot: thank you...this will be helpful.
[16:23] <jellybellie> swear to god, it just changed, no idea why
[16:23] <flowerpot> -4 = limit to ipv4.  -t = limit to tcp.  -a = show all connections, listening and otherwise.  -p = show process name
[16:23] <abhijitrucks> :-|
[16:23] <terafl0ps> jellybellie, I count English as th 36th language in the list.
[16:24] <flowerpot> doesn't look like netstat can filter on its own by port # like lsof, so you'd have to grep, sed, awk, or perl yourself some extra detail for the script logic
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> flowerpot: ooh like that, making an alias now :)
[16:24] <terafl0ps> in the "installed languages" list
[16:24] <kjm> quit
[16:25] <maddinw> I did netstat -4tap | grep 8000
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> flowerpot: was going to make a UDP joke too but couldn't be sure you got it :D
[16:25] <abhijitrucks> huh?
[16:25] <Darael> ActionParsnip: That's /terrible/.
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Darael: lots
[16:26] <jellybellie> argh, the repos are lagging
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: tried apt-fast ?
[16:26] <jellybellie> ActionParsnip: what is that?
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: a script to replace apt-get, uses axel
[16:27] <jellybellie> I thought you were kidding...
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: downloads from multiple sources
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: its a thingf
[16:27] <jellybellie> apt is usually fast, the ubuntu repos are lagging hard for me.
[16:27] <stiltzkin> Hello all, this is not a critical issue or anything (this is basically throwaway hardware) but I'm wondering why 12.04 is randomly freezing on my old desktop computer. I did tail -f /var/log/syslog to see what's happening when it freezes, here's what it looks like: http://i.imgur.com/Wstm3.jpg
[16:28] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: what language pack is english?
[16:28] <jellybellie> language-pack-???-base
[16:28] <Darael> jellybellie: en, probably.  Possibly en-$COUNTRYCODE.
[16:28] <stiltzkin> As you can see, it just keeps trying to enumerate USB devices with MTP for some reason. I don't have any devices that use MTP attached, so this is confusing. Basically I just want to understand whether this is most likely hardware or software related.
[16:28] <sebastian> hello, i need some help with gsynaptics
[16:29] <cristi22> hei i instal windows over ubuntu 12.04 and i want to reinstal grub haw i can do?
[16:29] <Darael> !grub | cristi22
[16:29] <bost> hey man do you see me?
[16:29] <n1ckn4me09876543> I downloaded Soundblaster X-Fi linux driver, now I have to install it, the readme file tells me: << In terminal,
[16:29] <n1ckn4me09876543> 1) Goto source directory
[16:29] <n1ckn4me09876543>  2) Execute make command as root
[16:29] <n1ckn4me09876543>   make
[16:29] <n1ckn4me09876543>     make install >> what's the command to install programs/driver
[16:29] <FloodBot1> n1ckn4me09876543: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:29] <jellybellie> Darael: no
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: sudo apt-get install axel
[16:29] <BostX> yea I do
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: then visit here: http://www.mattparnell.com/linux/apt-fast/
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: grab apt-fast.sh and mark it as executable, I suggest you rename it to apt-fast and copy it to /usr/bin
[16:30] <jellybellie> sh@, I installed Kashubian
[16:30] <Darael> jellybellie: en is definitely the language code used in packages for US English.  I think UK English is en-gb.
[16:30] <sebastian> hey guys i need some help, i can't initialize gsynaptics, and i cant find the xorg.conf archive
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: you can then use:  sudo apt-fast upgrade
[16:30] <flowerpot> maddinw, if you're running netstat to check for a tcp connection from localhost:someport to remotehost:8000, then you don't need to include -a in netstat
[16:30] <jellybellie> Darael: what package do you have installed?
[16:30] <terafl0ps> jelliebellie, What happened when you tried to reset English in the "language support" tool ?
[16:30] <DoctorMonocular> so, when I run "rails c" I get this error: bash: /usr/local/bin/rails: /usr/bin/ruby1.8: bad interpreter: No such file or directory -- which seems like it's looking for ruby on the path "/usr/local/bin/rails: /usr/bin/ruby1.8" which is obviously wrong. It looks like there's an extra space in a config file somewhere -- where might that file be?
[16:30] <jellybellie> ActionParsnip: I will definitely try it.
[16:31] <jellybellie> language-pack-??
[16:31] <Darael> jellybellie: language-pack-en and language-pack-en-base.
[16:31] <jellybellie> k
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: newer version here https://github.com/ilikenwf/apt-fast
[16:31] <flowerpot> DoctorMonocular, someone else had the same problem yesterday. I don't know how his case turned out, but it's probably not a problem specific to your case.
[16:31] <jellybellie> Darael: ubuntu 12.04?
[16:32] <Darael> ActionParsnip: Axel works these days, then?  Last time I looked at it (about four years ago, I confess) it liked to segfault.
[16:32] <Darael> jellybellie: That's right.  Been the same since forever, though.
[16:32] <stiltzkin> Anyone know what this "udevd failed to execute mtp-probe" means? http://i.imgur.com/Wstm3.jpg
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: ok stick to the first one :)
[16:33] <jellybellie> this makes no sense, I didnt install anything...
[16:33] <jellybellie> ActionParsnip: I will try it
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> Darael: works great here
[16:33] <jellybellie> but now, Im trying to get english back [:
[16:33] <abhijitrucks> unity is getting ridiculus on ubuntu 12.04... :( i am gonna try gnome 3
[16:33] <Darael> ActionParsnip: Good to know.  Four years is, after all, a long time.
[16:33] <jellybellie> I cannot read the git hub in chinese
[16:33] <abkarch> hey guys. I just installed ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop and everything went fine. I then used easyBCD from windows to add it to the boot list. Anyway, upon choosing to boot ubuntu, i get a black screen. I dont get a purple ubuntu loading screen before it or anything, it just goes straight to a black screen. If this helps at all, pressing the power button instantly turns off the laptop, which in my experience usually means no OS is boot
[16:34] <stiltzkin> abkarch, have you tried recovery mode?
[16:34] <jellybellie> this is crazy
[16:34] <smerz> abkarch, also check disk activity to verify your theory
[16:35] <smerz> (to be sure. never hurts)
[16:35] <abhijitrucks> whoa!!! how do i install gnome in ubuntu 12.04??? help! terminal says gnome-shell is not available
[16:35] <jellybellie> k, its not change to english
[16:35] <Darael> abkarch: Is there any reason you didn't just use GRUB for the main bootloader?  I don't think the Windows bootloader understands Linux, and chainloading GRUB from it requires dumping a grub image to a file, or did last time I tried, about six months ago.
[16:35] <abkarch> im not really an experienced linux user, how would i use GRUB?
[16:36] <abhijitrucks> someone help... how do i install gnome???
[16:36] <jellybellie> its select to english
[16:36] <jellybellie> but not english
[16:36] <Darael> abkarch: It should have been installed with Ubuntu.  If it wasn't, something strange has been going on.  Did you use WUBI?  (the "install inside windows" option).
[16:36] <abkarch> I burnt to a CD
[16:36] <zykotick9> !notunity | abhijitrucks
[16:37] <abkarch> its probably there, i dont know how to use it Darsel
[16:37] <Darael> !grub | abkarch: See also
[16:37] <jellybellie> and I cannot select the window text to to translate
[16:37] <terafl0ps> jellybellie, this may help: http://i45.tinypic.com/2r3y2xk.png
[16:37] <stiltzkin> abhijitrucks, sudo apt-get install gnome-shell last time I checked
[16:38] <Darael> abkarch: Incidentally, the tab key will autocomplete a nick, which is great for time-saving and making sure of spelling.  Unfortunately, I have to go (unexpected, my apologies) but I hope someone can sort you out.
[16:38] <jellybellie> lookin
[16:38] <abkarch> k
[16:38] <terafl0ps> English is the 36th language down in the "installed languages" window.
[16:38] <abhijitrucks> i did sudo apt-get install gnome-shell but it says "package gnome-shell has no insallation candidate"
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-shell
[16:38] <enotz> I am trying to use LWP::Simple with perl under 12.04 and if and when I try and get an https address it fails, without error.  I have installed LWP::Simple and http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-12.04/ubuntu-universe-i386/libcrypt-ssleay-perl_0.57-2ubuntu1_i386.deb - what am I missing here
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> abhijitrucks: do you have universe repo enabled?
[16:39] <stiltzkin> Still looking for some advice on this system freeze if anyone can tell me anything about it. Screenshot here: http://i.imgur.com/Wstm3.jpg
[16:39] <abhijitrucks> how do i check?
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> abhijitrucks: use software centre
[16:39] <robertkeizer> Greetings.. Anyone else notice that the canoncial DNS servers just set ca.archive.ubuntu.com to go to the UK?
[16:40] <euphoria_> hello
[16:40] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: http://tinypic.com/r/2morp1f/6
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> hi euphoria_
[16:40] <euphoria_> hi
[16:40] <abhijitrucks> ya
[16:40] <abhijitrucks> universe respiratory is enabled
[16:41] <c0deMaster> what are speedy alternatives to OpenVPN ?
[16:41] <jellybellie> english is definitely installed, I translated it with google
[16:42] <terafl0ps> jellybellie, What happens if you choose "English" and press that top button?
[16:42] <terafl0ps> which should be "apply system wide"
[16:42] <jellybellie> nothing
[16:42] <stiltzkin> experience with udevd, anyone, anyone? bueller?
[16:42] <abhijitrucks> ???
[16:43] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: I got a pop up when I logged in sayin I chose a different language.  I make sure that the login language was english on the login screen
[16:44] <jellybellie> this is insane
[16:44] <jellybellie> Im gonna have to reinstall over this...
[16:44] <abhijitrucks> ok. i added a gnome ppa
[16:44] <jellybellie> my gawd ubuntu
[16:45] <abhijitrucks> someone plz help
[16:45] <abhijitrucks> how to install gnome 3
[16:45] <abhijitrucks> in ubuntu 12.04
[16:45] <tensorpudding> abhijitrucks, first, remove whatever ppa you added
[16:46] <abhijitrucks> ok
[16:46] <tensorpudding> abhijitrucks, then you're done, because 12.04 comes with gnome 3
[16:46] <terafl0ps> jellybellie, I'm not sure what's going on then.  Have you tried logging out of gnome and logging back in after you applied the change?
[16:46] <jellybellie> ubuntu just switched me to chinese, that is what happened
[16:46] <jellybellie> no idea why
[16:46] <abhijitrucks> ok i removed it
[16:46] <tensorpudding> abhijitrucks, if you don't believe me, open System Monitor and look at the System tab, and see where it'll say GNOME 3.4.1
[16:47] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: gonna try logging out.
[16:47] <compdoc> I think ppl would be happier if 12.03 did run gnome 3, but it doesnt. But thats OK, I getting used to Unity
[16:48] <abhijitrucks> but i cant login to a gnome session
[16:48] <TheShruv> jellybellie: goto system>administration>language (or something like that)
[16:48] <hypn0> i would be happier if something like openbox was installed too
[16:48] <robin0800> compdoc: 12.04 does run gnome 3
[16:48] <tensorpudding> abhijitrucks, unity is built on top of gnome 3, if you want gnome-shell, just install it by name from the software center, you'll get a GNOME session available
[16:48] <LjL> !gnome3 | abhijitrucks
[16:49] <compdoc> robin0800, not the gnome 3 that abhijitrucks means
[16:49] <abhijitrucks> i have ubuntu 12.04
[16:49] <tensorpudding> yes, do what it says, install gnome-shell and gnome-tweak-tool
[16:49] <LjL> compdoc: yes, what you and abhijitrucks mean is "GNOME-Shell", not "GNOME 3"
[16:49] <abhijitrucks> and i want to use gnome instead of unity
[16:49] <LjL> abhijitrucks: follow the instructions in the factoid i just gave.
[16:50] <n1ckn4me09876543> Can someone help me install driver for Soundblaster X-Fi Fatal1ty ?  I've google'd everywhere and cannot find a solution
[16:50] <terafl0ps> Overall, I personally think Unity is awful on desktops and laptops.  I think something with a Unity-like interface makes much more sense on tablets and smartphones.
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: 12.04 uses Gnome3...
[16:50] <robin0800> abhijitrucks: you may need gnome-panel then
[16:50] <MrGizmo757> Unity is awsome  just takes getting used to
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> n1ckn4me09876543: those can be a pita, not worth the hastle
[16:51] <abhijitrucks> unity is kinda messed up in ubuntu 12.04
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> n1ckn4me09876543: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[16:51] <MrGizmo757> its rough around the edges but you can tweak it and make it good
[16:51] <MrGizmo757> such as making the launcher dodge windows like it did in 11.10 amound many other things
[16:51] <MrGizmo757> with a little TLC you can make unity quite good
[16:52] <abhijitrucks> how do i change launcher to reveal when i move my mouse to bottom left corner?
[16:52] <n1ckn4me09876543> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=19897beae9289bea9247c92a6b29e6e89a4fbd57
[16:52] <MrGizmo757> not sure about hot corners. i know My unity and even ubuntu tweak have some funtions like that.
[16:52] <MrGizmo757> there is a way i just don tknow it.
[16:52] <abhijitrucks> +they dont work in 12.04
[16:53] <abhijitrucks> :(
[16:53] <MrGizmo757> launcher dodgin open windows i have figured out. changin the default lens i have figured out.
[16:53] <abhijitrucks> i mean i can only change hotsopts to left edge and top left corner
[16:54] <terafl0ps> I admit I haven't tried Unity since 11.04, but I had lots of problems with it on dual displays, and I really couldn't stand the enormous icons.  Those big icons would make perfect sense on a small screen where they would scale down to the size of your fingertip though.
[16:54] <MrGizmo757> i agree. out of the box as is Unity is kind of a mess.  but if you spend some time with it you can make it very good.
[16:54] <MrGizmo757> hmm not sure about lower hot corners.   its not somthing i ever had a need for. i always just use keyboard shortcuts
[16:54] <n1ckn4me09876543> win8 copied ubuntu's unity :>
[16:54] <abhijitrucks> NO
[16:55] <n1ckn4me09876543> yep, the left side bar thingie,  the square looking thing to see programs,  that's the "new" start in win8
[16:55] <newhoa> Quick question: Nautilus is using media-eject-symbolic as the unmount icon in the sidebar now. Is there a way to define the color of this icon? Mine will only show black.
[16:55] <abhijitrucks> i got used to using bottom left corner for launcher in 11.10 so its kinda frarusting in 12.04
[16:55] <MrGizmo757> no they didnt. steve balmmer ate some bad shrimp. puked it all out all over a pile of turds and then he copied that. thats windows 8    LOL!!!!
[16:55] <solderMob> terafl0ps: failed.
[16:55] <solderMob> terafl0ps: how do i get to the fonts?
[16:55] <solderMob> maybe the fonts are off
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> n1ckn4me09876543: is the right output device selected in sound options and are all levels cranked in alsamixer
[16:56] <solderMob> its says english, but fonts are not english
[16:56] <MrGizmo757> i like windows 7 am am not baching windows here but  windows 8  i can only ask what are hey smoking
[16:56] <shadow_wraith> Hi, does anyone here know much about configuring a wacom pad in ubuntu?
[16:56] <kelvinella> what happen to windows 8?
[16:56] <abhijitrucks> and i cant even set expo hot corners in CCSM. the settings dissappear after a restart
[16:56] <terafl0ps> solderMob, Was your nick jellybellie before?
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: its offtopic here
[16:57] <petsounds> windows 8 is off-topic
[16:57] <kelvinella> last month i try to install windows 8 in virtualbox it fails
[16:57] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: sorry
[16:57] <jellybellie> forgot
[16:57] <abhijitrucks> forget about windows 8
[16:57] <MrGizmo757> anyways i need help with WiFi in ubuntu. i cant get the LED ont eh front of my laptop to work.  anybody know how to fix that?
[16:58] <n1ckn4me09876543> MrGizmo757: when you open programs in win8, it snaps it to the left screen,  sounds familiar? :> and a bunch of other stuff like   windows store to d/l apps like with ubuntu software centre, lol!
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> MrGizmo757: does it connect despite the LED?
[16:58] <MrGizmo757> yes wifi works fine. its just the LED that wont work.
[16:58] <abhijitrucks> windows 8 is metro and ubuntu is not metro
[16:58] <abhijitrucks> lol
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> MrGizmo757: why is the LED needed?
[16:58] <MrGizmo757> its not its just annoying me
[16:58] <abhijitrucks> haha
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> MrGizmo757: could report a bug, its massively trivial. Personally I'd be glad it didn't light
[16:59] <Kiril> someone can you tell me how to remove from apache to require htcaccess and stop give me a forbidden
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> Kiril: try asking in the apache channel too
[16:59] <terafl0ps> Ah.  I don't think it's a font issue.  I really think something is wrong with your language settings somewhere, but the language support program is failing to set them correctly now.
[16:59] <MrGizmo757> yeah but its sopose to and it dosent.  to me thats annoying.  :-)
[16:59] <totesmuhgoats> ooooh we are in #ubuntu
[16:59] <abhijitrucks> kiril: use sudo
[16:59] <totesmuhgoats> lol i am reading the buffer thinking i'm in ##windows
[17:00] <totesmuhgoats> wondering what all you guys are on about
[17:00] <Kiril> i use root
[17:00] <robin0800> MrGizmo757: do a google search for your wifi light laptop and linux
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> MrGizmo757: instead of 'laptop' use the make and model of the system
[17:00] <Chewyrobbo> Kiril, why don't you delete your htaccess temporarily?
[17:00] <jellybellie> 36 down?
[17:00] <Kiril> i haven't
[17:01] <terafl0ps> Jellybellie: Yes, in the installed languages screen.
[17:01] <MrGizmo757> i alredy tried all that. thats why i came here.  i found a few fixes  for other laptops. but not for mine.  the fixes i did fine for dell and system 76 didnt work  on my ASUS
[17:01] <Chewyrobbo> do that, or find what line(s) are bad in your htaccess
[17:01] <stiltzkin> Anyone have any insight on this system freeze I'm getting? I kind of suspect bad hardware but I'm not sure. Getting lots of errors about nonexistent USB MTP devices: http://i.imgur.com/Wstm3.jpg
[17:02] <viktor_l> o/ i am having troube with my interfaces, i have configured my eth1 in the interfaces file but it will not be active by default when i start ubuntu
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> stiltzkin: what is plugged in to the usb ports?
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> viktor_l: did you add the line:   auto eth1
[17:02] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip, USB keyboard, plain USB hard drive
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> stiltzkin: unmount and eject the drive, see if the messages still occur
[17:03] <MrGizmo757> i also found a fix for this problem but it wouldnt work on my wifi card.  the solution was to install some backports. but the driver for my wifi card didnt work before 11.10 so installing backports just make it stop worging completley.
[17:03] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip, alright...I have a feeling they will
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> stiltzkin: then you will know what is causing the issue :)
[17:03] <jellybellie> its installing uz when I install english
[17:03] <MrGizmo757> oh well.  everything works fine. i just dont have a working LED.   not a big deal but if there was a fix i figured i would apply it.
[17:03] <jellybellie> and en-gb
[17:04] <MrGizmo757> no biggue though. its only a little bitty light.
[17:04] <Chewyrobbo> Hey status lights have saved my butt before though.
[17:04] <amflir> is there a package for Debian that changes the wallpaper randomly from a couple of selected pictures randomly every x minutes?!
[17:04] <jellybellie> I hate china now
[17:04] <jellybellie> (:
[17:04] <amflir> is there a package that changes the wallpaper randomly from a couple of selected pictures randomly every x minutes?!
[17:04] <viktor_l> so really, the auto part is to start the interface
[17:04] <jellybellie> that does nothing
[17:05] <jellybellie> AH!
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> amflir: isn't that already installed?
[17:05] <Dougie187> I'm having trouble with 12.04 on a thinkpad T61. Pluseaudio will only output one stream at a time
[17:05] <theadmin> amflir: Try nitrogen, if you mean desktop-independent
[17:05] <terafl0ps> jellybellie: Success?
[17:05] <jellybellie> no
[17:05] <jellybellie> chinese
[17:05] <n1ckn4me09876543> ActionParsnip: yea I'm in alsa mixer options,  is there anyway I could have a more pleasing graphical settings for audio?
[17:05] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip, it's not throwing errors yet...might have to wait a few minutes to be sure though, it happens at random
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> amflir: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[17:05] <terafl0ps> Darn.
[17:05] <KomiaPoika> hi
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> n1ckn4me09876543: there's gnome-alsamixer  its exactly the same just pretty, kinda pointless really
[17:06] <KomiaPoika> trying to install enemy territory 2.60 full install, I get: .setup2089: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:06] <KomiaPoika> what lib should I install?
[17:06] <amflir> ActionParsnip: Release:	6.0.5      Codename:	squeeze
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> amflir: debian isn't supported here
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> amflir: this is ubuntu support only
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> amflir: join #debian
[17:07] <amflir> ActionParsnip: the packages are the same
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> amflir: its not ubuntu
[17:07] <jellybellie> so there is nothing else that might over right my language?
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> amflir: even the 'ubuntu based' distros are not supported here
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> amflir: and packages from debian are not to be install in ubutnu they will cause issues
[17:08] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip, looks alright for now, I'll be back if the problem persists. Thanks for the suggestion :)
[17:08] <jellybellie> how do i get to font?
[17:08] <TheFreeMSP> hey everyone
[17:08] <jellybellie> anyone know where fonts are in gnomeshell?
[17:09] <TheFreeMSP> Limited Time Only! Get FREE Microsoft Points. Check it out here: http://thefreemsp.weebly.com
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> !fonts | jellybellie
[17:10] <jellybellie> ActionParsnip: I know how to install ubuntu lulz
[17:10] <jellybellie> this is a 12.04 canonical fail
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: its how to install fonts, not ubuntu
[17:11] <alan83> hi everyone i'm totally new to linux and ubuntu. may i ask i saw ppl on the youtube having those top menu where starts Applications etc. but mine comes with a sidebar. how can i change to tat? tks.
[17:11] <jellybellie> the default language of my system is chinese, even chrome is trying to translate to chinese for me.  ActionParsnip looking
[17:11] <terafl0ps> jelliebellie: What shows up when you run "dpkg -l | grep language-pack" ?
[17:11] <jellybellie> where is the gui font editor in ubuntu 12.04?
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> alan83: you can install xfce, or use this how to: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/
[17:11] <theadmin> alan83: sudo apt-get install gnome-fallback # After that log out, click the gear icon, choose "GNOME Fallback".
[17:12] <jellybellie> ah
[17:12] <alan83> ok tks ActionParsnip and theadmin.
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> !info fontforge | jellybellie
[17:13] <rwq> here is the best one today
[17:13] <alan83> oh btw, how do i learn about the commands for the terminal? anyone?
[17:13] <rwq> "daddy can i listen to jazz?"
[17:13] <LjL> !cli > alan83
[17:13] <rwq> "SURE!  what kind of jazz?"
[17:13] <rwq> "jazztin beiber"
[17:13] <LjL> !ot | rwq
[17:13] <jellybellie> that link is for 10.04
[17:13] <rwq> allright sorry
[17:13] <alan83> cheers.
[17:14] <jellybellie> ubottu: no fontforge in terminal
[17:15] <jellybellie> ubottu: that is helpful
[17:15] <L3top> jellybellie: sudo apt-get install fontforge
[17:15] <jellybellie> the font editor in 12.04? its not in appearances
[17:15] <LjL> jellybellie: i don't think you meant "font editor" anyway. a font editor is something to let you create fonts.
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: is it in the Alt+F2 menu?
[17:16] <amflir> how to check what packages depended on package FOO are installed?
[17:17] <jellybellie> I dont know
[17:17] <jellybellie> I cannot read anything
[17:17] <jellybellie> the language thing says english, and above it, something in chinese
[17:17] <terafl0ps> Still, I'm pretty sure there is no font that changes your language to Chinese.  I think any font with a full set of unicode characters would have Chinese characters.
[17:17] <jellybellie> all the menus are in chinese
[17:17] <Dougie187> So, basically if I have two applications running in 12.04 the first one to run gets to output, and the other one doesn't.
[17:18] <fricker> Hello.
[17:18] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: Im just trying anything.  I spent days installing this system and now im looking at reinstalling cause I logged in.
[17:18] <jellybellie> fail canonical
[17:18] <jellybellie> huge fail
[17:19] <fricker> Hmm. Sounds like you have it worse than I do.
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: change the language..
[17:19] <tensorpudding> changing the language could be hard though, if everything is in chinese and you don't speak the language
[17:19] <jellybellie> ActionParsnip: been doing that
[17:19] <fricker> I just put Ubuntu 11.04 on a new laptop and for some reason, it freezes during start up.
[17:20] <jellybellie> it doesnt seem to care
[17:20] <terafl0ps> jellybellie:  Can you pastebin your /etc/default/locale ?
[17:20] <fricker> But, if I have my wired ethernet connected, it starts up fine.
[17:21] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: LANG="zh_CN.UTF-8"
[17:21] <jellybellie> LANGUAGE="zh_CN:en"
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: or you could rename all the gnome config folders as a last ditch
[17:21] <terafl0ps> jellybellie:  Change it to this:
[17:21] <terafl0ps> LANG="en_US"
[17:21] <terafl0ps> LANGUAGE="en_US:en"
[17:21] <jellybellie> http://pastebin.com/xDULW29W
[17:21] <jellybellie> ^
[17:21] <Etale> I'm going to get a 500GB, 8GB RAM, 64-bit laptop tomorrow. I want an ubuntu distro that would be ideal for that sort of computer, but also doesn't have too much garbage pre-installed. Ultimately I want to use compiz. What would you suggest?
[17:22] <jellybellie> (gawd Im not chinese)
[17:22] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: which? just the first one?
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> Etale: you can run any of the ubuntus you want
[17:22] <danielsaan> Etale: linux mint
[17:22] <L3top> !poll | again Etale..
[17:22] <tensorpudding> linux mint isn't ubuntu
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Etale: install default ubuntu and it will be fine
[17:23] <Daekdroom> Etale, Default Ubuntu
[17:23] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: oh, nvm,
[17:23] <danielsaan> tensorpudding: yes it is
[17:23] <terafl0ps> jellybellie:  Actually, my entire /etc/default/locale only contains one line.
[17:23] <tensorpudding> !mint
[17:23] <Tw|sT> Etale: Ubuntu 12.04-LTS x64
[17:23] <terafl0ps> It is LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
[17:23] <xangua> danielsaan: mint is not supported here, drop it
[17:23] <terafl0ps> So, I would try that.
[17:23] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: what is that line?
[17:23] <LjL> danielsaan: no it isn't. please don't recommend people to use other distributions here when they ask about an "Ubuntu distro"
[17:23] <L3top> same here terafl0ps
[17:23] <jellybellie> ubuntu 12.04?
[17:23] <Etale> Not even xubuntu?
[17:23] <danielsaan> xangua: dude, it's apt-get etc
[17:23] <danielsaan> that's debian based
[17:23] <danielsaan> ergo ubuntu
[17:23] <jellybellie> what line?! (:
[17:23] <terafl0ps> LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
[17:23] <LjL> danielsaan: i don't even know how you think what you just said makes any sense, but at any rate, just don't.
[17:23] <Etale> Or minimal ubuntu? lubuntu?
[17:24] <danielsaan> why?
[17:24] <tensorpudding> Etale, get xubuntu if xfce4 is what you want, get kubuntu is kde 4.6 is what you want, get regular ubuntu if you want unity
[17:24] <xangua> Etale: anything you want
[17:24] <xangua> !ot | danielsaan
[17:24] <terafl0ps> You may need to log out of gnome again to get it to pick it up.
[17:24] <flowerpot> danielbw, because Ubuntu is significantly different from Debian, even though Debian is the upstream provider for Ubuntu.  Moreover, if Mint is an offshoot of Debian, then it's even farther removed from Ubuntu than Debian is.
[17:24] <Tw|sT> with that level of hardware, I'd go straight to Ubuntu, rather than Xubuntu.  you can always add in the metapackage for Xubntu later, but starting from the root build is always best, I've found
[17:24] <LjL> danielsaan: because this is an Ubuntu channel, not a "recommend me the best OS to use" channel. the fellow who asked wasn't even asking *that* in the first place, they were asking about *Ubuntu*, and regardless of what you think, not everything that uses apt-get is "Ubuntu"
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Etale: Ubuntu, yuo will have enough grunt so I wouldn't worry about resources
[17:25] <flowerpot> Just because distro A is the upstream provider for distro B does not mean that distro B is compatible with distro A.
[17:25] <Tw|sT> Kubuntu would be a great alternative, on such high end hardware
[17:25] <L3top> jellybellie: echo "LANG=\"en_US.UTF-8\"" > /etc/default/locale
[17:26] <Tw|sT> But, I still would start with Ubuntu, and add in metapackages as desired
[17:26] <Etale> Okay!
[17:27] <Tw|sT> This way, I could use any desktop I prefer, and yet still have a system that otherwise works as the default distro was intended, with no diversion in any libs, settings or functions.  I always get a more stable box that way, I've found.
[17:27] <Tw|sT> enjoy!  :)
[17:27] <Etale> Yupsies!
[17:30] <primenumber>  Before I Go to Sleep
[17:30] <primenumber> @search  Before I Go to Sleep
[17:30] <LjL> primenumber: ?
[17:30] <primenumber> oops sorry!
[17:31] <jellybellie> NOPE
[17:31] <jellybellie> chinese, yay!
[17:32] <primenumber> I was going to ask if anyone else has a recurring system error on 12.04 after the upgrade. 2 systems - laptop and desktop both do this...
[17:32] <primenumber> happens about 2 minutes in from boot
[17:33] <terafl0ps> jelliebellie: Did you log out of gnome and log back in?
[17:33] <jellybellie> rebooted terafl0ps
[17:33] <jellybellie> brb, trying one more time
[17:33]  * Tw|sT recently bought an Acer Iconia Tab W500 tablet, preloaded with Windows 7. I also picked up a 32GB SDXC card for it and initially installed Ubuntu 12.04 onto the SDXC card, but came into a bad need to more disc space and sacrificed the SDXC card to Windows. I now boot to Ubuntu from USB flash drives.. and for some reason, unaltered, it works better on the tablet than it did when it was installed on SDXC.
[17:34] <jelliebellie> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:34] <jelliebellie> NO CHINESE!
[17:34] <xangua> !caps | jelliebellie
[17:35] <jelliebellie> ubottu: if you werent a bot, you would understand.
[17:35] <terafl0ps> Jelliebellie, what did you do?
[17:35] <jelliebellie> terafl0ps: guys, thnx
[17:35] <sirriffsalot> jelliebellie: haha, good reply!
[17:35] <jelliebellie> thx for dealing with my anger as well
[17:35] <jelliebellie> I hate chinese, but not as much anymore.
[17:35] <Tw|sT> My other fave Ubuntu system I run is a Zotac ZboxHD ID41-plus, loaded with Ubuntu 12.04.  Low footprint, fast as lightning!
[17:36] <jelliebellie> (:=~~~ datalove to you all ~~~=:) o/
[17:36] <terafl0ps> jelliebellie: What did you do that was different after that first reboot?
[17:37] <Tw|sT> bailed
[17:38] <Tw|sT> heh
[17:38] <Tw|sT> well... at least jelliebellie got it workin'
[17:39] <L3top> Tw|sT: you have had success with the nvidia-current driver? Are you using audio over hdmi?
[17:39] <Tw|sT> yup
[17:40] <L3top> Did you have to configure anything manually for audio?
[17:40] <Tw|sT> it worked the other night from my tablet to the TV
[17:40] <Tw|sT> I just selected that output
[17:40] <Tw|sT> at least if I recall correctly
[17:40] <L3top> I am referring to the id41
[17:40] <Tw|sT> oh
[17:41] <Tw|sT> umm... yeah
[17:41] <Tw|sT> though I only tested it recently with the lowerend set upstairs... a 720P plasma
[17:41] <L3top> Sorry... meaning?
[17:41] <L3top> No manual config?
[17:42] <L3top> Or no audio over hdmi?
[17:42] <Tw|sT> I don't recall it I've set it up using that mode successfully on my 1080p Samsung
[17:42] <Tw|sT> I think it depended on the set
[17:42] <Tw|sT> I'll have to test that
[17:42] <Tw|sT> I'm using a dedicated monitor with it
[17:42] <Tw|sT> but
[17:43] <L3top> digital audio out is digital audio out... it should either pipe a signal or not. I was just curious because I am having some grief autoconfiguring those guys.
[17:43] <Tw|sT> I also have a spare HDMI cable that I occasionally use to hook one or the other of my 2 portables to 2nd, larger displays
[17:43] <Tw|sT> well... theres more than that, when dealing with it as an output to pulseaudio
[17:44] <master0010> im trying to change the JAVA_HOME variable to java7oracle but its always on java6 :S
[17:44] <master0010> can some one help me?
[17:44] <L3top> not on the receiving end... anyway... thanks.
[17:45] <theadmin> master0010: sudo update-alternatives --set java /path/to/java7/
[17:45] <theadmin> master0010: Or something along the lines. Not sure if it's "java" or "jre" or even "jvm", though
[17:46] <master0010> update-alternatives: error: alternative /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/ for java not registered, not setting.
[17:46] <Tw|sT> it's sorta like dealing with it in Windows.   The TV becomes an audio output listed as connected to the digital interface, and then have to work under the same digital output specifications.  If I remember correctly, the last time i had my Zbox hooked to my digital display (Samsung), I had to use a separate optical cable for digital audio because pulse audio at the time, didn't work with it correctly.  But I've upgraded that system sinc
[17:46] <ZaNeIuM> how do i delete grub from hard drive, formatting the drive doesnt get rid of it?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> master0010: there is a ppa for oracle java 7
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> ZaNeIuM: when you install another OS the MBR will be overwritten
[17:47] <master0010> java -version gives me java 7
[17:47] <master0010> but the variables are still java 6
[17:47] <Tw|sT> That's why I'm not sure, honestly.  Because I haven't rechecked since I reloaded from 10.04 to 12.04 on the Zbox
[17:47] <ZaNeIuM> well i did install other os but it kept adding to the grub menu thats why now im asking
[17:48] <Tw|sT> My wife's using the screen right now, watching a film, or I'd just go ahead and hook it up and check, because you've gotten me curious here now...   :)
[17:48] <viktor_l> for the auto eth1 one guy, yes that was it, tyvm
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> ZaNeIuM: what is the other OS?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> vinraec: np :)
[17:48] <ZaNeIuM> xbmc ubuntu eden
[17:49] <ZaNeIuM> it was ok then i started seeing the grub menu apon boot
[17:49] <Tw|sT> ZaNeIuM:  Do you have  copy of the "gparted" live iso?
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> ZaNeIuM: that will probably use grub as well, you can use a chroot to set it up. the distro isn't supported here
[17:49] <ZaNeIuM> i got gparted on a live cd
[17:49] <ZaNeIuM> i del the partios with it
[17:49] <Tw|sT> that'll do it.  just kill the partition table itself
[17:49] <jademonkey> Could anyone suggest some decent drafting software for a novice? I want to sketch out a design for a patio, not really looking to get hardcore.
[17:50] <salvatore> Hello everybody. I have a problem with my Ubuntu 12.04 installation. I got a new Sony Vaio laptop with windows 7 64 bit preinstalled. I wanna keep7 it and install ubuntu also. But when i restart my pc GRUB menu won't appear and start windows
[17:50] <Tw|sT> that'll wipe the MBR
[17:50] <ZaNeIuM> and rebooted the partioionless drive and still got a grub prompt
[17:50] <master0010> ActionParship  iǘe isntalled java 7
[17:50] <master0010> but the varialbes are still java 6
[17:50] <master0010> and i cant change them
[17:51] <salvatore> may be that i am trying to install an ubuntu 32 bit version?
[17:51] <Tw|sT> ZaNeIuM Are you certain tht the drive you're targetting is the one triggering grub?  Might it also gotten installed on another drive as well? (just troubleshooting steps of elimination)
[17:52] <master0010> when i type "export JAVA_HOME=.......java-7-oracle" the variable changes but when i logout and log in again the variable is back to java6
[17:52] <Tw|sT> Also, have you checked the "boot" flag in gparted?
[17:52] <ZaNeIuM> its a small itx system with one 1 drive
[17:52] <dougstew2> I have 12.04 and i want to see the cpu speed how do i do it??
[17:52] <ZaNeIuM> ull check it now
[17:52] <Tw|sT> That'll allow you to kill an MBR on a drive
[17:52] <salvatore> why on my new VAIO won't appear GRUB menu???
[17:53] <salvatore> please help!!!!
[17:54] <Tw|sT> salvatore:  what was your grub installation target drive? /dev/sda1 ? or  /dev/sda ? or some other arrangement?
[17:54] <salvatore> mmm don't remember...
[17:55] <salvatore> but is it possible because i installed a 32 bit version?
[17:55] <salvatore> my windows is 64 bit
[17:55] <Tw|sT> that wouldnt matter so much
[17:55] <Tw|sT> no
[17:55] <wifioregon> hi I need to rename LOTS of files.  "Track 1.wav" to "a 1.wav"  "Track 2.wav" to "a 2.wav" and so on. Can someone please help? Even if you just guide me in the right direction. Do I need to do some kind of loop?
[17:55] <Tw|sT> that's perfectly ok
[17:57] <Tw|sT> generally, whenever you are setting up a dual boot system, you'll need to install grub to "/dev/sda", which is the MBR of the first detected drive of a modern laptop.  The actual target labels may differ depending on your hardware arrangement, but generally my example applies in most cases.
[17:58] <Tw|sT> I tend to build USB stick installations that act as a full system.  I use these as portable environments, for laptops, Workstations, and my tablet.
[18:00] <tdn> I use Ubuntu LTS and want to install the new 12.04, however, the installer does not seem to be able to boot on non pae CPUs. What to do? I need the alternate installer to set up LUKS during install.
[18:00] <Tw|sT> I also manage several Linux servers at my work (3 of which are Ubuntu based), and several Ubuntu systems on my home network, where most of those are virtualized on VMWare ESXi host servers, inhouse.
[18:00] <ceti331__> @twist, can you easily use a large portion of the usb stick as the drive
[18:00] <Tw|sT> right
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> salvatore: how did you install ubuntu. Via wubi, or by resizing the ntfs and installing that way?
[18:00] <ceti331__> i seem to remember the usb stick installers limiting me when i did it
[18:01] <ceti331__> but that was a while ago
[18:01] <airlynx> This is a common problem I have, when compiling a downloaded program I sometimes get an error that some dependency is not installed, when in fact it is, is there a good workaround for this type of issue?  Particular case is currently rbpro-drum2midi when running ./configure it checks for alsa >= 1.0.22 when I have 1.0.24 installed but it just stops and says "No package 'alsa' found"
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> wifioregon: ask in #bash too
[18:01] <FfoO> excuse me guys. Good afternoon. Could any one tell me which format is best for an Arch-Linux OS install, please? Ext2 or Ext4.
[18:01] <salvatore> i downloaded the iso from ubuntu website
[18:01] <salvatore> burned it
[18:01] <salvatore> used it
[18:01] <salvatore> restarting pc
[18:02] <Tw|sT> I have a pair of live installer USBs, as well as full systems, rather than persisten mode discs.  That way, I'm not as limited with it.
[18:02] <ivan___> hi.. I'm having problems with dhcp after update to 12.04
[18:02] <RupertPupkin> salvatore, Try #archlinux
[18:03] <ivan___> I edited /etc/resol.conf to <IP_ADDRESS> but it still doesn't want to connect to any network
[18:03] <RupertPupkin> sorry , ignore that.  wrong person
[18:03] <Sidewinder> !who
[18:03] <RupertPupkin> FfoO, Try #archlinux
[18:03] <ivan___> I also edited /etc/dhcp/dhcplient.conf
[18:03] <FfoO> RupertPupkin: I'm on it, thank you
[18:04] <ivan___> I uncommented prepend domain-name-servers and added opendns IP addressess
[18:04] <ivan___> this fixed problem few days ago
[18:04] <ivan___> but now, I have same problem
[18:04] <ivan___> and this solution doesn't work
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> wifioregon: may help http://www.computing.net/answers/unix/replace-word/6230.html
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> ivan___: can you ping your default gateway
[18:06] <Aranel> After 12.04 upgrade now plasma-desktop doesn't start with "org.kde.kded not provided by any .service files" :/ Can you help me?
[18:07] <ivan___> anyone any idea?
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> ivan___: I asked you a question.....
[18:07] <ivan___> ActionParsnip: sorry I missed it
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Aranel: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=107086
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Aranel: seems you need to delete /var/tmp/kdecache-$USER
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Aranel: have you seen that guide?
[18:08] <salvatore> what is archlinux?
[18:08] <master0010> i need help :S i can't change my JAVA_HOME variable. i've installed java 7 oracle and when i type java -version it shows the java 7 version but JAVA_HOME is still java 6 oracle
[18:08] <Aranel> ActionParsnip: did and removed that folder too, after issuing plasma-desktop on terminal it starts kbuildsycoca, then crashes again.
[18:08] <ivan___> ActionParsnip: what should I ping ?
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> ivan___: your default gateway, the router's internal IP.....
[18:09] <Tw|sT> Sunday May 20 2012 01:09:34 PM -0600 GMT
[18:10] <master0010> can some one help me? :(
[18:10] <terafl0ps> master0010, do you want to use Java 7 for only one particular user or all users?
[18:10] <master0010> all
[18:10] <ivan___> ActionParsnip: no I can't
[18:11] <ficarra> Why does M$ have to own skype?
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> ivan___: does the interface get an IP via dhcp?
[18:11] <ikonia> how is that anything to do with ubuntu ficarra ?
[18:11] <ficarra> 2.2 Beta? Are you kidding me
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> ficarra: they paid for it...
[18:12] <ikonia> ficarra: you understand you're in an ubuntu support channel yes ?
[18:12] <terafl0ps> master0010, See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[18:12] <ficarra> THey refuse to develope for linux.
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> ficarra: they haven't said taht
[18:12] <ikonia> ficarra: you understand you're in an ubuntu support channel yes ?
[18:12] <ficarra> Give me time, I'm getting to the point, ranting first.
[18:12] <terafl0ps> Look at the section on system-wide environment variables.
[18:12] <ikonia> ficarra: stop ranting
[18:12] <ficarra> No need to spam me ikonia
[18:12] <ikonia> ficarra: if you need support ask for it - if not, please don't speak
[18:12] <FfoO> ficarra: Beta since I was born.
[18:12] <ficarra> So, skype closes instantly on startup
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> ficarra: tried renaming ~/.Skype ?
[18:13] <master0010> terafl0ps i tried that
[18:13] <ficarra> Well, not on startup. On login. And ActionParsnip, how will renaming it help?
[18:13] <terafl0ps> Was JAVA_HOME defined in any of those places?
[18:13] <master0010> but bashrc doesn't do me anything
[18:14] <master0010> in all
[18:14] <master0010> the only time that it changes
[18:14] <master0010> is
[18:14] <master0010> when i do export
[18:15] <_Marcus> Hi
[18:15] <master0010> but when i logout and log in its back to java6
[18:15] <terafl0ps> Is it defined in your users .profile ?
[18:16] <vimane> what will replace unity-2d for old computer?
[18:16] <master0010> no but profile is pointing to bashrc
[18:16] <master0010> i think :S
[18:17] <master0010> its what looks like on the file
[18:17] <terafl0ps> master0010, It could be defined in there.
[18:17] <ficarra> vimane: For an older computer, I'd suggest LXDE
[18:18] <ficarra> Or XFCE
[18:18] <vimane> hahaha ok
[18:18] <ficarra> Actually, XFCE should work fine
[18:19] <ficarra> vimane:  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[18:19] <vimane> thank
[18:19] <FfoO> Could any one tell me which format is best for a Ubuntu OS install, please? Ext2 or Ext4.
[18:19] <terafl0ps> master00101: grep JAVA_HOME .*
[18:19] <ZaNeIuM> Tw|sT: in gparted flags is grayed out
[18:19] <ikonia> FfoO: ext4 is the current standard
[18:19] <master0010> terafl0ps, nothing..
[18:20] <terafl0ps> master0010: So it's not set in your user's directory.
[18:21] <master0010> :S7
[18:21] <conny__> Could someone help me with a problem in Regnum Online? The outfits of the chars are "flickering" and I don't know how to turn it off
[18:21] <master0010> but when i do echo $JAVA_HOME
[18:21] <master0010> it shows it
[18:22] <FfoO> Thank you, ikonia
[18:22] <master0010> terafl0ps, how do i do it?
[18:22] <terafl0ps> master0010: sudo find /etc/* -exec grep -l JAVA_HOME {} \;
[18:22] <vimane> ficarra: i'm fine with other DE, but many people i know want to use unity.
[18:23] <nano_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/139669/cannot-install-windows
[18:23] <robstark> So whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> ficarra: if you rename it, skype will majke default settings and may help. bad settnigs can make apps crash
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> vimane: could use unity2d session
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> robstark: kde desktop instead of gnome, default apps are different
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> robstark: rest is the same
[18:24] <nano_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/139669/cannot-install-windows
[18:24] <master0010> terafl0ps, what im i suposed to find with this? it shows me some lines..
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> master0010: there is a ppa for java7, makes life easier
[18:25] <terafl0ps> master0010:  That should list any file in /etc containing the text "JAVA_HOME"
[18:25] <vimane> but unity-2d will be droped in 12.10, isn't it?
[18:25] <robstark> So KDE desktop means?  BRAND new user here, just switched from windows
[18:25] <master0010> terafl0ps, i used this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1977358&highlight=qiii+install+java
[18:25] <robstark> Running 12.04 ubuntu, but kubuntu recommended by a friend
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> vimane: not that i've noticed. I'll check tonight (I have 12.10 installed)
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> robstark: try it, see what you think
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> robstark: could run a live CD / USB
[18:26] <vimane> ActionParsnip: thank you
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> vimane: i'm at work now but am curious now
[18:26] <terafl0ps> master0010:  If it's more than a couple lines that came back, you'll have to pastebin them.
[18:26] <aemid> GIALLO
[18:26] <robstark> The core is the same then, just different desktop... so like... it would be the same as running the same dos, but a different gui?
[18:27] <robstark> Or not really?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> robstark: exactly
[18:27] <robstark> Cool, ok ty\
[18:27] <mhahe> hello running ubuntu 12.04 on my macbook pro 6.2 and i have to reconnect to wifi every 10 seconds or so... did not have this problem before upgrade from 11.10
[18:27] <robstark> While I'm here, any recommendation on how to learn terminal?
[18:27] <mhahe> any ideas on what the issue is?
[18:27] <terafl0ps> That tutorial is fine.  It sounds like Java installed correctly, but you just need to change your JAVA_HOME to point to the new install.
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> robstark: use it instead of the gui
[18:28] <robstark> But like, a page of some kind?  Or a wiki?  Looking for a reference point here.
[18:28] <Aranel> ActionParsnip: did and removed that folder too, after issuing plasma-desktop on terminal it starts kbuildsycoca, then crashes again.
[18:28] <mhahe> also i checked before installing 12.04 on the ubuntu support for macbookpro and my laptop had no issues with wifi
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> robstark: the guys in #bash may have some nice guides
[18:28] <Aranel> oops. repost.
[18:28] <robstark> cool
[18:28] <robstark> Ty
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Aranel: remove the folder, then reboot. may help
[18:29] <robstark> Heading out then, over there, thanks a ton
[18:29] <master0010> terafl0ps, http://pastebin.com/938DCASJ
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> np :)
[18:30] <lukys> http://www.petitiononline.com/system76/petition.html
[18:30] <lukys> Replace Proprietary BIOS with Coreboot in System76 Machines
[18:31] <terafl0ps> master0010: Great.  Open up /etc/alternatives/java_vm, /etc/bash.bashrc, and /etc/environment and set JAVA_HOME to point to your new JAVA_HOME.
[18:31] <terafl0ps> master0010:  It should take effect once you log out and log back in.
[18:31] <sukesh> Hi
[18:32] <RupertPupkin> hi sukesh do you have a question?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> terafl0ps: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> terafl0ps: easier
[18:33] <sukesh> I have just installed 12.04 on my desktop and I'm not getting the password screen after it goes into screensaver / powersave mode. I can't get back to the GUI mode at all. My hard disk is showing activity though. Cn someone pls help?
[18:34] <master0010> terafl0ps, how do i edit java_vm?
[18:34] <master0010> terafl0ps, the other files were already with my new JAVA_HOME
[18:35] <terafl0ps> master0010:On second thought, you probably don't need to edit /etc/alternatives/java_vm.
[18:35] <master0010> terafl0ps, but the other files were already edited
[18:35] <master0010> terafl0ps, i didn't made any changes
[18:35] <terafl0ps> ActionParsnip, I think he already followed basically those same instructions, but his JAVA_HOME still points to Java 6.
[18:37] <terafl0ps> master0010: Are you running gnome right now?  This may seem odd, but I've had to log out of gnome at times and log back in to get system environment variable changes to stick sometimes.
[18:38] <remlabm> having an issue with nvidia drivers for my GF 8500 on Ubuntu 12. I have installed the latest drivers but my monitor says 3840x 1080 instead having 2x 1920x1080. What would cause that?
[18:38] <master0010> i've done that several times
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> remlabm:  if using twinview the system sees one very wide monitor.
[18:38] <master0010> every time i make a change i logout and log in
[18:38] <remlabm> Dr_Willis: what should my Xconfig be set on?
[18:39] <remlabm> Dr_Willis: by default it had my 2nd monitor disbaled
[18:42] <terafl0ps> master0010, It has to be defined in one of those files for system-wide environment variables or one of the scripts executed at login by your user.  You may want to double check those places to make sure that the old JAVA_HOME definition is isn't appearing anywhere in those files *after* the new JAVA_HOME definition.  If It's defined twice, the second one would win.
[18:43] <sokak> yay, found an one liner to kill dupes in sources.list, just wanted to share
[18:44] <remlabm> So i guess the issue is, ubuntu is not picking up my 2nd monitor. Can i manually add that do xorg.conf with out breaking everything?
[18:45] <master0010> terafl0ps, thats what im thinking... but i don't find nothing about java 6 in any config file
[18:45] <jagginess> remlabm, does the X log say it's picking up e-did information from the second monitor ? (/var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[18:46] <newmar> hi, I have a toshiba u505 laptop and after de ubuntu upgrade the battery dont keep more than one hour working, anyone can help me?
[18:46] <jagginess> remlabm, is this monitor really a "tv" ?
[18:46] <terafl0ps> master0010: You can use that recursive grep command to find the old Java 6 path wherever it may be hiding.
[18:47] <remlabm> jagginess it does. i dont want to paste in here.. No same monitors, 2x 24inch acers
[18:47] <Dr_Willis> remlabm:  run nvidia-settings as root. enable twinview. set monitors how you like.save to sorg.conf. restart X
[18:47] <sukesh> Rupertpupkin I have just installed 12.04 on my desktop and I'm not getting the password screen after it goes into screensaver / powersave mode. I can't get back to the GUI mode at all. My hard disk is showing activity though. Cn someone pls help?
[18:47] <jagginess> !paste
[18:47] <remlabm> Dr_Willis: i cant use twinview, I rotate one monitor :)
[18:47] <jagginess> remlabm, ^
[18:48] <Dr_Willis> rotate?
[18:48] <terafl0ps> find /etc/* -exec grep "any string I want to find anywhere in any config file" -exec grep -il {} \;
[18:48] <newmar> anyone can help me with the problem of my battery, or have the toshiba u505 laptop and know how to do it work better with ubuntu?
[18:49] <remlabm> http://paste.ubuntu.com/997862/
[18:49] <remlabm> yes, i rotate my left monitor so it is 1024x1920
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> newmar:  id say check the forums and askubuntu.com for your exact laptop. there may be some battery tweaks for it. The powersaveing stuff for some laptops. dont work very well.
[18:49] <innociv_> What do I do about a package depending on libmysqlclient15off when I have libmysqlclient16?  libmysqlclient15off  is not longer in the repo.
[18:50] <master0010> terafl0ps, thanks for the help. I think i found it :) i was looking on the bash.bashrc file..... but it was on the ~/.bashrc
[18:50] <jagginess> remlabm, that's not the whole log, try using xclip or pastebinit, eg --> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | xclip   -- then you can use the middle-mouse button to paste in the textbox at the pastebin site (provide the new url please)
[18:50] <terafl0ps> Ah, that would do it.
[18:50] <remlabm> oh you want the whole thing? sorry i thought you just wanted the nvidia snippet
[18:50] <jagginess> remlabm, xclip can be installed - apt-get install xclip
[18:51] <tomreyn> innociv_: don't install packages which are not made for your ubuntu release.
[18:51] <remlabm> jagginess : http://paste.ubuntu.com/997866/
[18:51] <Dr_Willis> http://zuttobenkyou.wordpress.com/2009/10/04/linux-nvidia-xinerama-guide-rotating-just-one-monitor-in-a-dual-head-setup/
[18:52] <newmar> Dr_Willis, i tried there but there isnt my problem
[18:53] <Dr_Willis> i have a bigger ieeus ehre my X server gets amazingly sluggush after running for some time. Like right now. I can type faster then it can display... how annoying. I thought the last updatew  fixed it.
[18:53] <ikonia> last RealEyes
[18:54] <ikonia> oops
[18:54] <RealEyes> <.<
[18:54] <jagginess> remlabm, so you have two monitors of the same brand?  "Acer G235H"
[18:54] <remlabm> jagginess, yup same exact model
[18:55] <jagginess> remlabm, what happens when you type "xrandr" alone in a terminal box?
[18:55] <jagginess> remlabm, does it mention both monitors?
[18:55] <remlabm> yup says 2 things are connected
[18:56] <jagginess> remlabm, did you try the Display option from system settings?
[18:56] <remlabm> it only shows one monitor as "laptop"
[18:58] <Somelauw> Is there a more convenient way to edit a zip file then the usual extracting and eventually bundling it again?
[18:58] <jagginess> remlabm, that's weird.. so what about the xorg.conf file.. did you make one?
[18:58] <graingert_> Somelauw: sometimes
[18:58] <Somelauw> Also I have the same question for tar.gz, rar etc.
[18:58] <BlackWeb> I'm trying to configure dns on my local machine which I entered the hostname along with there ip's in /etc/resolv.conf.  how would i restart dns or if its not recognizing the hostnames still would dns just need to be restarted
[18:58] <graingert_> Somelauw: I believe file roller does that, but hides it
[18:58] <remlabm> jagginess, this is the default one, i have not edited. i turned on twinview just to see if the 2nd monitor was working, but then turned it back off
[18:59] <graingert_> Somelauw: ISO lets you delete files by flipping a bit in the file descripto
[18:59] <jagginess> Somelauw, dunno how stable it is but i think there's a fuse filesystem for zip (meaning you can get a mountpoint for it)
[18:59] <graingert_> r
[18:59] <remlabm> jagginess, do you want me to post my xorg.conf?
[18:59] <jagginess> remlabm, yes.. actually i noticed twinview is still on as shown in the x log
[18:59] <Somelauw> jagginess: That sounds cool.
[18:59] <jagginess> remlabm, you can pastebin the xorg.conf file
[18:59] <infame> Hi... My "WIndow decorator" keeps on dying, at random times.... It's a bit annoying having to type: compiz-decorator --replace all the time, is there a workaround??
[18:59] <xangua> BlackWeb: so you want to set a dns¿
[19:00] <remlabm> jaginess, http://paste.ubuntu.com/997875/
[19:00] <jagginess> Somelauw, you can always extract 1 file, modify it, then re-inject it back into the archive is another
[19:00] <dontknow> cinnamon is awesome
[19:00] <graingert_>  infame: fusion icon
[19:00] <BlackWeb> ya right now have 3 computers on local network and want to be able to refer to them by hostname instead of Ip
[19:00] <itaws> how to program c++ in ubuntu ?
[19:00] <ikonia> itaws: same as any other os
[19:00] <Orpheon> itaws: Get CodeBlocks
[19:00] <ikonia> itaws: c++ is the same on any platform
[19:00] <Orpheon> you already have gcc
[19:00] <Orpheon> you're all set
[19:01] <graingert_> infame: does it happen after you run unity --reset
[19:01] <graingert_> this will reset all your us settings
[19:01] <graingert_> ui*
[19:01] <jagginess> remlabm, do you want xinerama?
[19:01] <BlackWeb> which i placed hostnames and ips in /etc/resolv.conf and still it can resolve the hostnames do i need to restart dns or do something else besides just modifying /etc/resolv.conf
[19:01] <infame> Er... I'll have to try it out
[19:01] <infame> Thanks, for any possible solutions.
[19:01] <remlabm> jagginess, from what ive been told, i want to stay away from xserver and xinerama
[19:01] <jagginess> remlabm, uh..
[19:02] <remlabm> that was in this channel, i was told dont use xinerama
[19:02] <jagginess> remlabm, you have xinerama off.. that's what I'm believing you're after, no?
[19:02] <jagginess> remlabm, who said that?
[19:02] <itaws> but i programmed c++ in window but in ubuntu i donot know how to start  and where to start ?
[19:02] <remlabm> i forget, wasnt to long ago either
[19:02] <jagginess> remlabm, maybe if you enable twinview that xinerama may have be turned off.. but you have to consult the docs..
[19:02] <Dr_Willis> twinview supercedes xinerama
[19:02] <jagginess> remlabm, i said rename xorg.conf to xorg.conf_bak..
[19:03] <b3lsatar> please someone help me to fix wirless on ubuntu
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> twinview is like nvidias own xinerama+extras
[19:03] <jagginess> remlabm, stop lightdm (tty1), make a new xorg file...
[19:03] <Piciu> hej
[19:03] <Piciu> HALLO
[19:03] <jagginess> remlabm, X -configure, then copy /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:03] <jagginess> remlabm, then start lightdm.. see if dual screen works after..
[19:03] <remlabm> now that i think of it.. it might have been Dr_Willis i was talking too.
[19:03] <Piciu> jest tam keos
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> remlabm:  from what ive googled - twinview can rotate both monitors..  but not one.
[19:04] <Orpheon> itaws: open terminal
[19:04] <DJones> !pl | Piciu
[19:04] <Orpheon> type in "sudo apt-get install codeblocks"
[19:04] <Orpheon> I think it's called
[19:04] <SnowmanX11> Has somebody experienced since the last (grub) update in 12.04 that win7 dual boot does not work? Chainloader fails.
[19:04] <Piciu> yes ok
[19:04] <Orpheon> it's in my opinion the best C++ editor
[19:04] <remlabm> so what is the difference between using xinerama and using built in display
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> remlabm:  xinerams can rotate one. but then you lose some of the extra twinview features
[19:05] <jagginess> remlabm, before making a new xorg.conf perhaps you can try the nvidia-settings-<> command, try to enable the second monitor with that
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> the build in  display tool - only works with the gl noevau drivers i belive - not the nvidisda ones
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> SnowmanX11, this a fresh install, have you run sudo update-grub in ubuntu?
[19:05] <remlabm> Oh, so if i disable the nouveau drivers, that borks the built in display
[19:05] <remlabm> didnt realize they fit and in hand
[19:05] <Guest73403> ciao
[19:05] <SnowmanX11> It was an update and yes, I did. I have even reinstalled it. It worked ones and when I tried 2nd time it failed again.
[19:05] <remlabm> trying that now jagginess
[19:06] <Guest73403> !list
[19:06] <pijush> hello
[19:06] <jagginess> remlabm, type nvidia<tab tab>, see what tools you can use
[19:06] <jagginess> (should be only 1 or two)
after installing codeblocks , where to write and how to run it ?
[19:07] <jagginess> remlabm, it should be a gui tool too..
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> im not even sure how well the nouveau drivers handle dual monitors
[19:07] <remlabm> bug reposrt, detector, settings, unintsall, debugdump, installer, smi, xconfig
[19:07] <ubuntu__> tük varmı
[19:07] <b3lsatar> please someone help me to fix wirless on ubuntu
[19:07] <ubuntu__> TÜRK VARMı??
[19:07] <bennypr0fane> hello, could anyone take a look at this forum thread?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11952839#post11952839 I can't get my wlan chip to work with Ubuntu 12.04. There's confusion with the drivers...
[19:08] <bennypr0fane> ubuntu_ english only, sorry!
[19:08] <jagginess> remlabm, you runnign the nvidia-settings gui tool?
[19:08] <ubuntu__> what is ubuntu 12.04 live cd pasword
[19:08] <remlabm> yup
[19:08] <ikonia> there isn't one
[19:08] <jagginess> remlabm, can u list both monitors?
[19:08] <bennypr0fane> ubuntu_ it shouldn't have an
[19:08] <remlabm> yup
[19:08] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys, can anyone tell me if there's a way i can install the drivers under ubuntu 10.04 ? http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supported_devices
[19:08] <bennypr0fane> *a password
[19:08] <Wiz_KeeD> it says yes (2.6.33+) and i think i have an older version
[19:08] <jagginess> remlabm, so you should be able to activate the second monitor probably
[19:09] <remlabm> but the 2nd one has everything as "unkonwn"
[19:09] <ubuntu__> what is ubuntu 12.04 live cd password
[19:09] <sirriffsalot> Anyone know what has happened to amsn on ubuntu 12.04?
[19:09] <bennypr0fane> ubuntu_ , there is no password
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> Only time ive seen the live cd ask for a password is when it was badly burnt, or some how messed up
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> the default user is 'ubuntu' i belive.. but for some odd reason when i installed 12.04 it was like 'test' on the live cd as the username.. not sure what was up with that
[19:10] <jagginess> remlabm, you called it "Unknown" in your xorg.conf file..
[19:10] <meoblast001> there's something really confusing about unity for me
[19:10] <remlabm> jagginess, so what do you recommend i do from this point?
[19:10] <meoblast001> when i have thunderbird running, the amount of new emails it shows in unity is the amount of new items in my spam box
[19:10] <bennypr0fane> Dr_Willis I'm on live usb, I ahve Ubuntu as usr name
[19:10] <jagginess> remlabm, i recommend you pastebin a sample X -configure makes..
[19:10] <meoblast001> is there a way to change this?
[19:11] <jagginess> remlabm, type stop lightdm, then do X -configure, start lightdm, then pastebin /root/xorg.conf.new the sample
[19:12] <Wiz_KeeD> does anyone know how i can upgrade my kernel with ubuntu 10.04 over 2.6.33?
[19:12] <OerHeks>  sirriffsalot the "amsn" package was deleted from the ubuntu repository, don't know why.
[19:12] <ubuntu__> What is the password for the ubuntu live cd
[19:12] <OerHeks> ubuntu__, there is no password, user = ubuntu pass = empty
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> bennypr0fane:  as i said it was weird - the cd i got form the torrents.. not sure what the deal was. It may have been a daily build
[19:13] <ubuntu__> live cd password ?
[19:13] <ubuntu__> su ?
[19:13] <OerHeks> ubuntu__, read ^^^
[19:13] <remlabm2> jagginess, what did you need from the X -configure?
[19:14] <Wiz_KeeD> nobody?
[19:14] <jagginess> remlabm2, that command makes the sample xorg file in /root
[19:15] <jagginess> remlabm2, run that command as the superuser
[19:15] <remlabm2> ok did that
[19:15] <jagginess> remlabm2, superuser's home is "/root"
[19:15] <jagginess> remlabm2, so pastebin the sample file
[19:15] <BlueChaos> hellow guys
[19:16] <ubuntu__> ubuntu live cd password? please?
[19:16] <remlabm2> jagginess, didnt work, ways , Configuration Failed
[19:16] <OerHeks> ubuntu__, i answered your question a couple of minutes ago.
[19:16] <remlabm2> Number of screens does not match the number jo detected devices
[19:16] <oCean> ubuntu__: there is NO password for the ubuntu user. If you need root privileges, then use sudo command
[19:17] <oCean> !sudo | ubuntu__
[19:17] <BlueChaos> ocean
[19:17] <BlueChaos> are u  /
[19:17] <oCean> BlueChaos: what?
[19:17] <BlueChaos> I need help to figure out how can i add some modules intro webmin pannel
[19:17] <BlueChaos> know ?
[19:18] <ubuntu__> Türk yok mu?
[19:18] <georgelappies> ubuntu_, there is no password, nothing, blank, nada
[19:18] <sirriffsalot> OerHeks: aawh...
[19:18] <oCean> !tr | ubuntu__
[19:18] <sirriffsalot> OerHeks: where do you check the ubuntu "repository" chief database as it were?
[19:19] <oCean> BlueChaos: this channel can not help you with webmin, it is not supported with ubuntu
[19:19] <BlueChaos> lol
[19:19] <BlueChaos> I have installed on my unbuntu 12.04
[19:19] <BlueChaos> check this out
[19:19] <oCean> BlueChaos: yes, but it is not supported
[19:19] <oCean> BlueChaos: please stop
[19:19] <OerHeks> sirriffsalot, it is removed, as you can see in softwarecentre/synaptic.
[19:19] <BlueChaos> so
[19:19] <xangua> ubuntu_ for live cd¿ tried user: ubuntu password: leave it blank
[19:20] <sirriffsalot> OerHeks: yeah, but sometimes one has to add a repository for it to be available
[19:20] <oCean> sirriffsalot: you can also use ubottu for searching for package information
[19:20] <BlueChaos> tell me u one software to us and afcourse to bee supported by unbuntu for manage' this sh1t over here
[19:20] <ikonia> BlueChaos: that language is unacceptable
[19:20] <ubuntu__> thanks
[19:20] <oCean> BlueChaos: mind your language in this channel please
[19:20] <OerHeks> sirriffsalot, yes i found a 'amsn-daily'  ppa, if that is what you want >>https://launchpad.net/~amsn-daily/+archive/ppa
[19:21] <sirriffsalot> OerHeks: So I can add that and things'll be dandy?
[19:21] <Guest35585>  hola hi hello :)
[19:21] <jagginess> remlabm2, that's fine.. it still made a full xorg sample file
[19:21] <jagginess> remlabm2, did you pastebin it
[19:21] <sirriffsalot> OerHeks: where is the chief repository list as it were?
[19:21] <xangua> OerHeks: sirriffsalot and all build failed
[19:21] <BlueChaos> ok sorry tell me one software to use for manage from webs my pc
[19:21] <OerHeks> sirriffsalot, it is a personal testing archiv, no succes guaranteed, and ubuntu does not support ppa troubles.
[19:21] <sirriffsalot> xangua: hmm?
[19:21] <oCean> sirriffsalot: please note that PPA's are 3rd party repositories
[19:22] <jagginess> BlueChaos, you want an easy to setup remote linux?
[19:22] <sirriffsalot> oCean: 3rd party meaning?
[19:22] <BlueChaos> yes
[19:22] <jagginess> BlueChaos, like remote desktop?
[19:22] <BlueChaos> no ...re
[19:22] <OerHeks> 3rd party = not from ubuntu or partners
[19:22] <BlueChaos> like this
[19:22] <BlueChaos> I give u in private adress
[19:22] <Orbitey> teamviewer works well for me
[19:22] <oCean> sirriffsalot: not under our "control", so unsupported. Maintainers can do whatever they want with their software and their repository
[19:23] <xangua> OerHeks: did you notice the ppe you recomended has All packages failed to build¿
[19:23] <sirriffsalot> oCean: so a good idea to check up on the reviews before install?:P
[19:23] <xangua> ppa*
[19:23] <remlabm2> jagginess, i cant find it to pastebin it... there is nothing in /root that says xorg
[19:23] <jagginess> BlueChaos, it's easy..download this -- http://www.nomachine.com/preview/select-package-virtual-desktop-workstation.php?os=linux  , then use firefox from another station --> https://<ip>:4080  .. or you can use the Nomachine "Player" from mac/linux/windows and get it a bit faster than firefox
[19:23] <OerHeks> xangua, no, didn't see that, thanks for mentioning it.
[19:23] <oCean> sirriffsalot: yes, or contact the maintainers of the package. PPA pages (in launchpad) usually have some statistics about recent upload, succesful builds etc
[19:24] <jagginess> remlabm2, did you type "find /root"  ?
[19:24] <sirriffsalot> oCean: cheers mate!
[19:24] <OerHeks> so, sirriffsalot, ppa is not build right, all you can do is build the source yourself.
[19:24] <BlueChaos> let me try I annonce u if is what i'am searching for..
[19:24] <remlabm2> nothing therefor xorg.confg
[19:24] <remlabm2> nothing therefor xorg.conf*
[19:24] <sirriffsalot> OerHeks: hmm ok
[19:24] <jagginess> BlueChaos, also.. have ssh installed-- apt-get install ssh (ssh server needs to be installed of course)
[19:24] <carlos_eduardo> does someone know any website that allows me to send annonymous email?
[19:24] <jagginess> remlabm2, did you stop lightdm first?
[19:25] <remlabm2> yessir
[19:25] <GayLordUK> :)
[19:25] <jagginess> remlabm2, did you run as user root? (not sudo)
[19:25] <BlueChaos> jagginess I have already installed on my unbuntu ssh
[19:25] <remlabm2> that i didnt do... now its htere ;)
[19:26] <remlabm2> got a huge error when turning lightdm back on. Could not apply the stored configuration for monitors, and it lists all kinds of resolutions
[19:27] <ralucu> Hi all
[19:27] <jagginess> remlabm2, still waiting..
[19:28] <remlabm2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/997920/
[19:28] <ralucu> Is compiz support in gnome 3 now?
[19:28] <xangua> ralucu: unity uses compiz
[19:29] <jagginess> remlabm2, back up /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf_bak00
[19:29] <ralucu> Xangua : how about gnome 3?
[19:29] <remlabm2> ko
[19:29] <xangua> ralucu: unity is a shell for gnome3
[19:29] <jagginess> remlabm2, then cp /root/<sample> to /etc/X11/xorg.conf .. now edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "nouveau" to "nvidia", stop lightdm, start lightdm.. see what happens..
[19:30] <ralucu> Ok thanks
[19:30] <guntbert> carlos_eduardo: that has nothing to do with ubuntu support - and as an answer: I don't think that such a site exists
[19:32] <realpain> Magyarul kerdezhetek?
[19:32] <ralucu> Ok next question i
[19:32] <ralucu> Can ubuntu support android?
[19:33] <ralucu> In kernel 3.4 ?
[19:33] <guntbert> !hu | realpain
[19:34] <DJones> !hu | realpain
[19:34] <remlabm2> jagginess, started lightdm, get the resolutio error, only 1 monitor
[19:35] <ox1de> I have one minor qualm with ubuntu OS.... that is that there should be better music visualizers available.
[19:35] <ox1de> do you think this could be upgraded?
[19:35] <terafl0ps> ralucu, You can think of Android as a completely different Linux distribution from Ubuntu.
[19:35] <jagginess> remlabm2, do you have "nvidia" for Card0 and Card1 ?
[19:36] <RidDrib> Helo
[19:37] <RidDrib> Puerto Rico
[19:37] <remlabm2> jagginess, i did, there has to be something else going on here, its showing 2 gfx cards and 4 monitors in this config
[19:37] <Guest83919> jagginess
[19:37] <terafl0ps> ralucu: Google built Android, so asking if Ubuntu can support Android doesn't really make sense because the two are essentially two different Linux distributions with different purposes in mind.
[19:38] <RidDrib> How can create server??
[19:39] <mneptok> RidDrib: serving what?
[19:40] <ultrixx_> RidDrib: you want to set up a webserver or mailserver or what?
[19:41] <Guest45211> e ae
[19:42] <Lorphos> Hello.. is there a mirror for kernel.ubuntu.com - it is extremely slow
[19:43] <g0th> hi
[19:43] <detrate> has anyone had a problem where flash in chromium shows through onto other tabs?
[19:43] <detrate> I can't seem to get it to go away without restarting
[19:43] <detrate> I've tried killing the flash extension
[19:43] <detrate> closing all my tabs
[19:43] <detrate> restarting my WM
[19:43] <g0th> when I try to install wine or skype, ubuntu tries to install a whole bunch of packages ending in :i386, but I have amd64, how do I install either skype or wine?
[19:43] <Lorphos> kernel.ubuntu.com takes several minutes to respond to a single HTTP request
[19:43] <g0th> the list of the mentioned packages is huge btw
[19:45] <manigma77_> Is there an easy way to get wifi going on ubuntu 12.04? I have the acer niplijy 802.11b/g/n card, but ubuntu doesn't recognize it. I tried to hook up my ethernet, but I couldn't get that to work either. Sorry, new to ubuntu.
[19:45] <manigma77_> *niplify
[19:45] <e_t_> g0th: Skype is proprietary and they only offer a 32bit version. That's why you need all the i386 libraries. With 12.04 though, I think they're using multi-arch, so some or all of those may be virtual packages, I'm not sure.
[19:46] <bennypr0fane> hello, could anyone take a look at this forum thread?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11952839#post11952839 I can't get my wlan chip to work with Ubuntu 12.04. There's confusion with the drivers...
[19:47] <Lorphos> who takes care of kernel.ubuntu.com? It needs a little loving.. seems to be almost completely down
[19:47] <bennypr0fane> manigma77_ hwo are you online right now?
[19:47] <samira> fine
[19:47] <samira> tanx
[19:47] <samira> and u?
[19:48] <manigma77_> windows 7, I have a wubi install
[19:48] <manigma77_> just looking to do some building for android
[19:48] <g0th> e_t_: what does that mean? multirach?
[19:48] <e_t_> Lorphos: I noticed major slowness from archive.ubuntu.com a couple of days ago. I switched to another mirror.
[19:48] <remlabm2> is there a down side to using the nouveau drivers? i feel the nvidia ones are just causing me headaches
[19:49] <e_t_> g0th: It means binaries/libraries that can be used for either 32 or 64bit. http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch
[19:49] <g0th> how can I tell if it is multiarch or not?
[19:50] <bennypr0fane> manigma77_ there is this magnificent script for diagnosing your WiIi, I recently used it to look at my own WiFI problem: http://sourceforge.net/projects/wirelessscript/
[19:50] <g0th> there is skype and skype:i386
[19:50] <g0th> and similar for other packages
[19:50] <Noobist> Hey, I'm new to ubuntu, so I have a problem
[19:50] <Lorphos> e_t_ is there a mirror for kernel.ubuntu.com?
[19:50] <Ca11um> Hey guys.
[19:50] <manigma77_> thank you bennypr0fane, i'll check it out
[19:51] <Noobist> Using wine, if I wanted to add launch parameters to a program, how do I do that?
[19:51] <g0th> e_t_: skype requires some packages that end in ":i386"
[19:51] <Noobist> Like, -window
[19:51] <bennypr0fane> manigma77_ do you need instructions for running the script?
[19:51] <g0th> e_t_: so I should just install all those (100's of) packages just for skype?
[19:51] <Ca11um> I saw this screenshot a few days ago (can't find it now), but it showed a 12.04 login screen; it had a bunch of random usernames, "Guest Session", and "Network Account"....
[19:51] <Ca11um> Does Ubuntu support network accounts, like an Active Directory?
[19:52] <Lorphos> yes for example LDAP
[19:52] <e_t_> g0th: How badly do you want Skype? If you must have Skype, does it really matter what the dependencies are? If you can do without Skype and don't want the extra packages, don't install it.
[19:52] <manigma77_> bennypr0fane, yes please, I am looking on the main site now, but I haven't learned the basic terminal codes yet.
[19:52] <bennypr0fane> manigma77_ here's everything about it: http://wiki.bodhilinux.com/doku.php?id=wireless_script
[19:52] <Ca11um> So I can setup a Ubuntu Server with LDAP, and it hosts all the accounts?
[19:52] <manigma77_> bennypr0fane thanx again
[19:53] <terafl0ps> Ca11um:  You can also use winbind to talk to Active Directory.
[19:53] <e_t_> Lorphos: I don't know.
[19:53] <Ca11um> I want a controlled interface with restrictions (like Group Policy), and the ability to lively sign in to an account hosted on a server.
[19:53] <Ca11um> So documents and such are asyncronous on all machines
[19:54] <Ca11um> asynchronous *
[19:54] <jagginess> remlabm2, this is the first attempt to get it to work.. you can scratch the previous attempts because your ServerLayout section previously was wrong.. you only had 1 monitor mentioned in it
[19:54] <bennypr0fane> once, you've run it, post the results in the forum or pastebin them and ask someone in here to take a look at them. The script prints a very neat .txt file with results
[19:54] <bennypr0fane> *@manigma77_
[19:54] <manigma77_> bennypr0fane after some research I believe I need to install the broadcom sta wireless drivers, but I can't figure out how to do it without internet
[19:55] <remlabm2> jagginess, what do you recommend next then?
[19:55] <bennypr0fane> manigma77_ do you know the name of your wlan chip?
[19:56] <manigma77_> no
[19:56] <terafl0ps> Ca11um, as far as authentication goes you have a couple choices.  You can use winbind and PAM and have your linux machines authenticate against AD, or you can maintain a NIS server and have the linux machines authenticate against that.
[19:56] <manigma77_> just acer niplify
[19:56] <celthunder> Ca11um: documents are always asynchronous unless you sync them....
[19:56] <bennypr0fane> that's the pc, or the chip?
[19:56] <g0th> e_t_: I just don't want my system to be messed up again by all kinds of dependencies conflicts/etc....
[19:56] <terafl0ps> NIS and NFS would let you setup centrally managed user accounts and home directories.
[19:57] <manigma77_> thats the wifi chip as far as I know, the computer is an acer aspire
[19:57] <Ca11um> Sorry celthunder asynchronous is the wrong word
[19:57] <Ca11um> synchronised
[19:57] <bennypr0fane> so are you in Wubi right now? and if yes, does it have internet?
[19:57] <Ca11um> And what could I use for restrictions (such as enforced wallpaper, desktop icons, restricted access to settings, etc)
[19:58] <celthunder> Ca11um: unison or rsync with ssh
[19:58] <manigma77_> no, i'm in win 7
[19:58] <bennypr0fane> but what about your Wubi install?
[19:58] <manigma77_> it has no internet, ethernet or wireless
[19:58] <celthunder> Ca11um: hmm never tried to restrikt that but making the configs read only ?
[19:58] <e_t_> g0th: As long as you use the package manager, dependency conflicts are very rarely an issue. That's what package managers are for. I've installed Skype of x64 with no problems, several times.
[19:59] <manigma77_> bennypr0fane, can i pm you?
[19:59] <OerHeks> !offline | manigma77_
[19:59] <bennypr0fane> sure
[19:59] <celthunder> e_t_: package managers are for many things, dependency issues were not actually covered by early managers
[19:59] <Ca11um> I guess it's not common for Linux to be used in an untrustworthy environment then, eh?
[19:59] <jagginess> remlabm2, what xorg.conf config are you using? did you try both Card0 and Card1 with "nvidia" ?
[19:59] <g0th> e_t_: hmm, for me I always get dependency conflicts with ubuntu
[20:00] <celthunder> Ca11um: i didnt say it couldnt be done just said ive never had to do it.  my stuffs locked down but i never tried to restrict that in particular
[20:00] <g0th> e_t_: I tried it now (to install all) and hope for the best
[20:00] <Ca11um> Okay, thanks.
[20:00] <Lorphos> wow, it takes more than 5 minutes for a request to kernel.ubuntu.com to go through
[20:01] <terafl0ps> In a lot of cases you can restrict access to settings by having your NIS users in a group that is not a member of some of the system groups that exist to manage specific settings.
[20:01] <Ca11um> So what were the things to look into; NIS, NFS, winbind?
[20:01] <Lorphos> the actual transfer once it starts is fast
[20:02] <terafl0ps> Yes.  NIS or Winbind though.  You probably don't want both.
[20:02] <tommyfun> Ca11um: If you're that worried about locking down the systems, take a look at the LTSP
[20:02] <Ca11um> Thanks
[20:02] <Ca11um> Also, what exactly is SELinux?
[20:02] <bluesnow> Hi, I'm wondering if I can update a 11.04 LiveUSB to a 12.04 LiveUSB without affecting the computer that I'm running the USB on
[20:03] <Ca11um> All I know is it's a "security" program that the NSA introduced
[20:03] <remlabm2> jagginess, it is only showing one card and yes its nvidia
[20:03] <jagginess> remlabm2, i think you should stick with 1 of the drivers and work on it.. if you can't get nvidia to work, lemme know, and then we can try nouveau.. i haven't been on more than 1 minute about this because i never got any feedback if you edited both Card0 and Card1 to nvidia
[20:04] <tommyfun> SELinux is just a way to lock down a system
[20:04] <angel282> Does Ubuntu have command for restoring the sources.list file? or some source.list generator?
[20:04] <kovu> hi guys im having a problem with pinguy 11.04 - Ive tried installing via live usb and CD and both times it hangs at the first install screen (the one that has 2 tickboxes asking if you want to update and if you want to install 3rd party software). can anyone offer advice? would it be worth installing a previous version and then updating versions inside the old version?
[20:04] <remlabm2> jagginesss, im responding, and im not stepping off you rpath, im just curoius why nouveau shouldnt be used?
[20:05] <tommyfun> I think AppArmor is in vogue now
[20:05] <yeats> !selinux
[20:06] <whiskers75> !squid3
[20:06] <whiskers75> !squid
[20:06] <alan83> hey hi may i know how can i use netbeans with j2me installed?
[20:06] <whiskers75> !bitcoin
[20:06] <freedomrun> hello.. does somebody know how to get rid of menu in nautilus window as there is already global menu of it
[20:07] <javierf_> Hi. After upgrading to 12.04, the scroll function of my touchpad doesn't work properly. Its sensibility is much smaller than it was and it only works on the very edge. Can't find an answer in google. Anyone has an idea what can i do?
[20:07] <whiskers75> !help
[20:07] <whiskers75> !paitence
[20:07] <remlabm2> !patience
[20:07] <whiskers75> !patience
[20:09] <terafl0ps> angel28:  The easiest way to manage repositories in sources.list is probably Synaptics.
[20:10] <kovu> hello friends, I was seeing if anyone could help me , I've tried installing pinguy 11.04 on my PC from both a Live Boot (made with linux live) and a burnt cd - both times it does not let me past the first installation page (the page with 2 tickboxes asking if youd like to download updates and install 3rd party drivers for mp3 etc.)
 ive tried installing it directly from the first boot screen & by going into the live mode first and then trying.,
[20:10] <ikonia> kovu: we don't support pinguy here
[20:10] <ikonia> kovu: sorry about that, it's only ubuntu here
[20:10] <kovu> okay no problem,
[20:10] <ikonia> thanks
[20:11] <kovu> although your best advice would have been to "try installing ubuntu" ;)
[20:11] <kovu> but thats what im gonna do anyway,.
[20:11] <freedomrun> is there special unity channel?
[20:13] <freedomrun> wake me up if someone answer :)
[20:13] <robstark> KDE vs unity, thoughts?
[20:13] <OerHeks> freedomrun, unity is supported here.
[20:13] <Gosset_Inofensiu> gnome classic of course
[20:13] <angel282> Does Ubuntu have command for restoring the sources.list file? or some source.list generator?
[20:13] <ikonia> angel282: no
[20:13] <ikonia> angel282: there is no restore command
[20:13] <freedomrun> DerHeks thank you :)
[20:13] <L3top> angel282: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[20:14] <ikonia> robstark: not really a valid discussion, it's personal taste
[20:14] <ikonia> robstark: try them, see what you like and then use it
[20:15] <smithw> Hi, I bought a laptop with an nvidia card which isn't supported by nvidia official drivers yet (GT 650M). It does have the dreaded Optimus, so I know I'll have to use either Bumblebee or Ironhide. Should I: a) install BB/IH right now; b) wait for the official driver to support it; c) wait for BB/IH specifically support it?
[20:16] <OerHeks> smithw, the wiki says bumblebee https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee there is also the #Bumblebee irc channel here on freenode, those guys are up2date
[20:17] <smithw> OerHeks, thank you very much!
[20:22] <yashwant> hi any onen how to switch on the ringing chat ringing sound from .
[20:22] <yashwant> if any one called me then it is not ringing.
[20:23] <alan83> hey hi may i know how can i use netbeans with j2me installed?
[20:24] <cosmic> hi @ all
[20:25] <sirriffsalot> How do I update my BIOS in Ubuntu...?
[20:25] <sirriffsalot> from ubuntu* rather
[20:26] <terafl0ps> sirriffsalot: You may not be able to.  I would stick to the BIOS flash utilities your computer manufacturer provides.
[20:27] <guntbert> sirriffsalot: you cannot, unless the manufacturer provides an utility
[20:27] <cosmic> I have  a new graphic card  Nvidia GT 520, since i have build in the card  and have conected the PC via HDMI Cable i have massiv problems . 1. My  Desktop doesnt fit on the TV anymore, second sound problems with game emulators. Is anyone so kind to give me hint how to get rid of my probs !?
[20:27] <sirriffsalot> Lol... how lame
[20:27] <L3top> bioses are all different sirriffsalot... they typically have a utility from your manufacturer, you may not be able to...
[20:27] <sirriffsalot> Should be a software for that in ubuntu...
[20:27] <sirriffsalot> Laame
[20:28] <L3top> cosmic: overscanning is a pain to deal with... are you using the native nouveau driver or the proprietary nvidia drivers?
[20:28] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: flash utilities...? How would I go about doing that?
[20:28] <cosmic> hi L3top , i am using the nativ NVIDIA
[20:28] <L3top> sirriffsalot: bios manipulation is no joke... you are best sticking to the utils
[20:28] <sirriffsalot> L3top: yeah, better leave well enough alone
[20:28] <terafl0ps> Go to your computer manufacturer's website and look under the drivers for your machine.
[20:28] <L3top> cosmic: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[20:28] <sirriffsalot> 12.04 lol:)
[20:29] <terafl0ps> There should be a section for BIOS updates.
[20:29] <melodie> hi
[20:29] <sirriffsalot> L3top: let's make it more simple then; I'm on a acer aspire x3200... Can't find how do increase the cpu speed anywhere in the bios=(
[20:29] <terafl0ps> You have to be absolutely certain (and I can't emphasize this enough) that you are downloading the correct BIOS.
[20:29] <yashwant> my empathy is not ringig while any friend is called me , please help me how to swithc on the ringigng
[20:29] <melodie> is there someone here who is used to the launchpad wiki ? (and would be willing to help with a actualization ?)
[20:29] <L3top> sirriffsalot: have you looked at the manual from your manufacturer?
[20:30] <sirriffsalot> L3top: no.. no idea where it is haha):
[20:30] <cosmic> L3top,  i think it is natty , 11.04
[20:30] <L3top> www.acer.com
[20:30] <sirriffsalot> L3top: haha, alright!
[20:30] <melodie> it is about creating a live cd from scratch I have identified something to be changed but I am not used to this wiki and don't want to make a mistake
[20:30] <remlabm> jagginess: are you still with me?
[20:31] <L3top> cosmic: dpkg-query nvidia* | grep ^ii
[20:31] <chaotix> hi, i need a hand with this:  i just deleted a virtual machine that i had in virtualbox, and clicked to delete all files, but i am not sure that everything that could be was deleted, and i need to free up space..  i created the virtual machine an hour ago and had more free space on my machine than right now after having deleted it..  i am running ubuntu 10.04, can somoene please give me a hand?  thanks in advance  :)
[20:31] <cosmic> it is the latest wich is available
[20:31] <cosmic> @ L3top
[20:32] <cosmic> its the nativ one from the nvidia homepage
[20:32] <terafl0ps> sirriffsalot: It's very likely that your CPUs multipliers and bus frequency are locked, and you won't be able to change them even with a BIOS update.
[20:33] <sirriffsalot> L3top: I can't find my computer model in the website... haha:)
[20:33] <smerz> Does anyone's ubuntu one work well? I only got trouble with it, thinking of trying dropbox.
[20:33] <sirriffsalot> L3top: Nvm, found it
[20:33] <L3top> cosmic: that would not be native... that was why I was asking. nouveau would be native. So in the nvidia settings utility I believe there is a way to resize the desktop to deal with overscanning.
[20:34] <cosmic> L3top, please be so kind to explain me , how the "original" Nvidia drive can not be native ?
[20:34] <yashwant> hi no one use empthy for chat please sole my proble while calling why ring is not working ?
[20:35] <terafl0ps> sirriffsalot: I'd also say that as a general rule I won't even attempt a BIOS update unless I am doing it to fix a bug.  If you do it wrong, your computer is bricked.
[20:35] <L3top> Native means born there vs transported there. You had to download a closed source driver from a third party source, that is not native. it is as far as you can get from it.
[20:35] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: I suppose you're right, but the only reason I want to do this is because I can't get my cpu rate any higher than 1.20Ghz
[20:35] <L3top> The original driver was xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[20:36] <orflon> hello, I'd like to go back to gnome 3.2 (the classical gnome menu, instead of the new in 3.4).
[20:36] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: cpufreq doesn't work in setting it higher, cpufreq-info -m tells me it's back at 1.20Ghz after starting my computer the next day
[20:36] <terafl0ps> sirriffsalot: What speed do you think it should be capable of?
[20:36] <adrian_2E0SDR> I just removed LXDE and it and Openbox are still in the desktop selection, how can i remove them?
[20:37] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: 2.40Ghz...
[20:37] <orflon> is that only a configuration in 3.4 or should I really go back to 3.2? And how dangerous is that?
[20:37] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: it says so..
[20:37] <terafl0ps> Does the BIOS show the clock speed as 2.4 GHz?
[20:37] <L3top> !downgrade | orflon
[20:38] <cosmic> L3top, Thank you very much , do you think the nouvo driver will work better ?
[20:38] <L3top> I do not cosmic. The problem is the TV
[20:38] <orflon> L3top, so am I forced to use that kind of menu?
[20:38] <L3top> There is, frankly, 0 reason for manufacturers to still use overscanning. It is a byproduct of a defunct methodology.
[20:39] <L3top> !nounity | orflon
[20:39] <cosmic> Did you ran in the same kind of issue L3top  ? i am using a samsung
[20:39] <adrian_2E0SDR> I just removed LXDE and it and Openbox are still in the desktop selection, how can i remove them?
[20:40] <guntbert> !repeat | adrian_2E0SDR
[20:40] <orflon> L3top, I'm using 12.04. Does the same apply to those?
[20:40] <L3top> I run into it daily. We build our own x window and have a utility to compensate for it... but desktop is going to require the nvidia tool to do it. We explicitly break that tool because it messes with our method, so I never see it and cannot walk you through it cosmic
[20:40] <adrian_2E0SDR> Ubottu, Sorry m8ty
[20:41] <L3top> I believe so orflon.
[20:41] <orflon> thanks
[20:42] <cosmic> L3top, Thank you very muc for your support !
[20:42] <cosmic> L3top, Thank you very much for your support !
[20:42] <L3top> any time cosmic.
[20:42] <sixpack> hey everyone hope your day is going good.. I have a question regarding Chromium stable builds for Xubuntu 12.04.. I am using http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/stable/ubuntu is this the best ppa? Thanks!
[20:42] <L3top> cosmic: you mentioned audio/games what was the issue there?
[20:42] <terafl0ps> sirriffsalot: If the BIOS already shows the clock speed as 2.4 GHz, then I don't think a BIOS update will help anyway. It's also possible that your CPU is frequency scaling down to 1.2 GHz to save power if you aren't taxing it much.
[20:42] <L3top> !ppa | sixpack
[20:43] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: it doesn't. it says that it can get to 2.40 but it is at 1.20
[20:43] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: when I run the game and set the graphics to hardcore high the cpu ghz is still at 1.20..
[20:44] <cosmic> since i use the hdmi connection , i have trouble to control my "VOLUME" via Mythtv and i have trouble using emulators like Zsnes, pcsxr , pSX , mupen64, mupen64plus , dolphin,  .... sound always "hacks" is interupted
[20:44] <cosmic> @ L3top
[20:44] <terafl0ps> sirriffsalot: Interesting.  Do the release notes on any newer BIOS updates mention the ability to change your CPU settings?
[20:44] <xomp> hello, would anyone know how I can go about capturing packets on my network in order to find out who is attacking my server and how? I think I'm getting ICMP flooded and have tried tcpdump but I don't know if this is a good method or not
[20:45] <L3top> cosmic check out our project www.linuxmce.org
[20:45] <L3top> It is up your alley.
[20:46] <guntbert> terafl0ps: it might be he has the wrong "governor" set for his cpu frequency
[20:46] <guntbert> xomp: tcpdump is good for that
[20:46] <L3top> cosmic: hdmi volume is digital, you will have no sound control from the box, it is only on the output device (like your tv).
[20:46] <L3top> cosmic: it is on or off... that is all.
[20:47] <xomp> guntbert, I'm using tcpdump -w /capture.log is this sufficient?
[20:47] <cosmic> L3top, so it is not a prob of alsa ? and the use of pulseaudio will not help right ?
[20:47] <L3top> Correct, you can only control volume at the destination device (amplifier or TV)
[20:47] <cosmic> L3top, it is even not possible to turn off / on
[20:48] <L3top> you have NO audio over hdmi? That is different.
[20:48] <xomp> guntbert, when dumping to a log file I'm opening the log in wireshark and for whatever reason my server is listed as the source for some of the ICMP flooding which is HIGHLY improbable so I don't want to end up dropping packets from my own box lol
[20:48] <L3top> cosmic: pm?
[20:49] <guntbert> xomp: I'd use tcpdump -v , but write it to some place else (*not the root*)  - and *don't let that run for a long time*!! (it might fill your file system)
[20:49] <xomp> yeah I don't write it to root. When running verbosely it just fills my console with tons of data that scrolls so fast I can't tell what's going on.
[20:50] <guntbert> xomp: sorry, I'm on my way out - Good luck :-)
[20:50] <xomp> since whoever is attacking our server is doing it with a botnet that has thousands of addresses
[20:50] <xomp> ah thanks guntbert
[20:51] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: no, but all I want to do is increase the cpu rate...
[20:51] <g0th> hi
[20:51] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: how would I do this?
[20:51] <terafl0ps> sirriffsalot: guntbert raises a good point about CPU governor settings.  This may be helpful.  http://www.pantz.org/software/cpufreq/usingcpufreqonlinux.html
[20:51] <g0th> the colors of flash movies are all wrong
[20:51] <g0th> red is blue etc
[20:51] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: yea, used that... gonna check it out anyway:D
[20:54] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: this seems to in-depth and configurative to risk on a 12.04 system... I don't want to screw things up
[20:55] <sirriffsalot> Wtf, this command sudo cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/*/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq gave me these two outputs: "1200000" and "2400000" :S:S:S
[20:55] <sirriffsalot> Does that mean I have two cpu's? Lol
[20:56] <Loshki> xomp: does any of this help? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man7/icmp.7.html
[20:57] <remlabm> if someone has a minute: http://askubuntu.com/questions/139983/ubuntu-12-04-and-nvidia-whoas
[20:57] <terafl0ps> sirriffsalot:  Try "cpufreq-selector -g ondemand"
[21:00] <sixpack> @g0th try to use an older version of flash it worked for me
[21:01] <xmll> #faryshta
[21:03] <ultrixx_> sirriffsalot: it seems your two cpu cores are in differen power saving states, so they differ in frequency
[21:04] <ultrixx_> sirriffsalot: does that make sense to you?
[21:06] <xmll> #faryshta
[21:07] <Dougie187> Are there any pulseaudio "experts" in here? I'm having trouble with multiple output applications. I can only get one to output at a time.
[21:09] <carlosx> holas
[21:09] <melodie> bye
[21:10] <j7> I'm getting this error when I try to run Processing: Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: com/sun/jdi/VirtualMachine : Unsupported major.minor version 51.0
[21:10] <j7> can anyone help?
[21:10] <ultrixx> when you try to run what?
[21:11] <j7> ultrixx: processing (processing.org)
[21:14] <sancas> i cant update my system :(
[21:14] <fuhreal> Howdy everyone!
[21:14] <sirriffsalot> ultrixx: well sure...
[21:14] <sirriffsalot> ultrixx: but still doesn't help me solve my problem haha:)
[21:15] <terafl0ps> sirriffsalot:  "sudo cpufreq-set -g ondemand"
[21:15] <j7> I'm getting this error when I try to run Processing: Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: com/sun/jdi/VirtualMachine : Unsupported major.minor version 51.0
[21:15] <j7> can anyone help?
[21:15] <|MUSE|> hi, I am trying to specify whether a file is executabled or not on an NTFS partition. I believe I am mounting it wrong in fstab, or is it not possible at all?
[21:16] <sirriffsalot> cpufreq-info -m tells me both are running at 1.20
[21:17] <terafl0ps> sirriffsalot: ondemand should make both scale to demand up to their max frequency.
[21:17] <j7> I'm getting this error when I try to run Processing: Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: com/sun/jdi/VirtualMachine : Unsupported major.minor version 51.0 .   Can anyone help?
[21:17] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: is there a way to make them both go for "performance"?
[21:18] <sirriffsalot> 2.40Ghz in other words
[21:18] <ultrixx> j7: it runs fine on my computer. what ubuntu version are you using?
[21:18] <terafl0ps> sudo cpufreq-set -g performance
[21:18] <j7> ultrixx, precise
[21:18] <j7> ultrixx, 12.04
[21:18] <terafl0ps> but then they will stay at 2.4 all the time
[21:18] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: guessed so, just had to check:P
[21:19] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: hmm, well I guess ondemand is ok for a start
[21:19] <terafl0ps> You can always flip between ondemand and performance.  I think their is a config file somewhere that lets this setting survive a reboot.
[21:20] <ultrixx> j7: and you have downloaded the latest version from processing.org?
[21:21] <sancas> watch my apt-get update/upgrade errors http://pastebin.com/Mqjwhq9g
[21:23] <ultrixx> j7: which jre are you using? i am using 6. have you got version 7 installed?
[21:23] <j7> ultrixx, how do I check?
[21:23] <Omen_20> hi everyone :) finally got my wireless working in Ubuntu. Hadnt been using it since 11.04. Missed it
[21:24] <ultrixx> in terminal type java -version
[21:24] <j7>  version 6, I'm using version 6, ultrixx
[21:25] <terafl0ps> sirriffsalot: I think ondemand is a sensible default setting for basically any system unless you actually run into problems with frequency scaling, overheating, or power consumption on a laptop.
[21:26] <LinuX2half> I have a little application called "preload" installed but I cannot seem to access the interface.
[21:27] <LinuX2half> I'm not sure if it's integrated in the command line.