[04:27] -ChanServ:#ubuntu-bd- pavlushka set flags +Vv on u-la-la
[04:28] <pavlushka> u-la-la: hello
[04:28] <u-la-la> good morning
[04:28] <pavlushka> u-la-la: coffee on
[04:28]  * u-la-la puts the kettle on
[04:32] <u-la-la> Coffee's ready for pavlushka!
[04:33] <pavlushka> u-la-la: ty
[04:33] <u-la-la> You are welcome my friend
[04:34] <pavlushka> !English
[04:34] <pavlushka> !Bangla
[04:34] <pavlushka> !Bengali
[08:38] <pavlushka> Welcome NaSb
[08:38] <pavlushka> NaSb: How are you?
[08:38] <NaSb> Hello pavlushka
[08:38] <NaSb> Alhamdulillah, Fine :)
[08:39] <pavlushka> good to hear that
[08:40] <NaSb> what are you doing now?
[08:41] <pavlushka> doing some maintenance on my machine
[08:41] <NaSb> System Maintenance?
[08:41] <pavlushka> yep
[08:42] <NaSb> Launch?
[08:42] <pavlushka> not yet :)
[08:42] <NaSb> -_-
[08:42] <pavlushka> but sure in a minute
[08:43] <NaSb> have you tried Ubuntu budgie remix?
[08:43] <pavlushka> nope
[08:45] <NaSb> It's going to be Ubuntu official flavour.
[08:45] <pavlushka> cool
[10:45] <rubel> puvlushka
[10:46] <pavlushka> yep
[19:29] <tarunno_> test
[19:31]  * tarunno
[19:32] <zaki> welcome to #ubuntu-bd tarunno & NahidSultan :)
[19:32] <NahidSultan> ধন্যবাদ :)
[19:33] <zaki> u-la-la: coffee please
[19:33] <u-la-la> zaki: There isn't a pot on
[19:33] <zaki> oh my
[19:33] <zaki> u-la-la: coffee on
[19:33]  * u-la-la puts the kettle on
[19:33] <NahidSultan> :p
[19:34] <zaki> NahidSultan: ask her for coffee like u-la-la coffee please
[19:34] <NahidSultan> u-la-la: coffee please
[19:34] <u-la-la> NahidSultan: Sure
[19:34] <NahidSultan> u-la-la: Thanks
[19:34] <u-la-la> no probs, NahidSultan
[19:34] <NahidSultan> cool :)
[19:35] <zaki> tarunno: you can ask her for coffee too. :P
[19:35] <zaki> u-la-la: coffee large
[19:35] <u-la-la> zaki: Sorry...
[19:35] <zaki> u-la-la: large
[19:35] <u-la-la> In a beer mug just for you :)
[19:35] <zaki> he he
[19:35] <NahidSultan> :D
[19:35] <zaki> NahidSultan: she can do many thing beside making coffee
[19:36] <NahidSultan> No thanks, From those many things I'm doing one of them right now ;)
[19:37] <u-la-la> Coffee's ready for zaki and NahidSultan!
[19:37] <zaki> u-la-la: thanks
[19:37] <u-la-la> no probs, zaki
[19:37] <zaki> u-la-la: help
[19:37] <u-la-la> zaki: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff.
[19:37] <u-la-la> Ask me "help me with ..."


[01:16] <Len-nb> micahg, thank you, taking a look now.
[01:22] <Len-nb> micahg, commited and pushed. Ready for meta upload.
[01:23] <Len-nb> (and whatever steps in between)
[01:29] <micahg> Len-nb: ACK, will try to get to that one tonight
[01:30] <Len-nb> Thank you
[02:49] <micahg> Len-nb: there were some other changes, (add lmms, musecore; remove blender)
[02:49] <micahg> are there any bugs to close?  and are these ok?
[02:50] <Len-nb> I didn't realize we removed blender... oh ya it wasn't bulding a while back.
[02:50] <Len-nb> I don't think there were bug numbers with them though.
[02:51] <micahg> ok, so I'll upload as is then
[02:58] <micahg> meta uploaded
[03:30] <Len-nb> Thank you micahg
[14:29] <len-dt> scott-work, we removed blender from seeds... it was broken?
[14:29] <len-dt> Has any wark been done to see why?
[14:29] <len-dt> zequence, ^^
[14:30] <zequence> len-dt: It made the ISO build fail earlier
[14:30] <zequence> Could have been fixed by now, don't know
[14:30] <zequence> Think someone was on it
[14:30] <zequence> python related
[14:33] <len-dt> I guess we should find out... though video editing is not my thing really. It seems to me blender was a pretty important part of our video workflow.
[14:34] <zequence> I'm not doing anything for at least one more week :)
[14:35] <zequence> I'm getting ready for a 1.0 version of inc-machine, the software we'll be using with our band
[14:35] <zequence> Doing that all day and night pretty mucgh
[14:37] <smartboyhw> len-dt, what the? I was trying to get blender 2.64a in the main archives now:P
[14:37] <smartboyhw> But don't know why we need to remove it from seeds
[14:38] <zequence> smartboyhw: read above
[14:44] <micahg> smartboyhw: blender should go though Debian
[14:58] <smartboyhw> micahg, oh no:P
[14:59] <smartboyhw> But anyway we should put it back a.s.a.p
[14:59] <micahg> not if it breaks the install :)
[15:01] <scott-work> len-dt: doh! i forgot about that, it was a python3 issue i think which has probably been fixed already but i don't know that with certainty
[15:02] <micahg> if someone wants to add it back to the seeds, I'm happy to upload another meta if it doesn't break the ISO
[15:02] <scott-work> micahg: if len-dt doesn't get it to it during the day i will get it tonight at home (~ 6 hours hence)
[15:11] <len-dt> scott-work, I am unlikely to get to it.
[15:11]  * len-dt is off to work.
[15:49] <holstein> zequence: you mean, it doesnt get complex?
[15:49] <zequence> Well, PA is not an audio device
[15:50] <zequence> So, if skype connects to PA, it doesn't care about audio devices
[15:50] <holstein> sure.. but if you dont understand how to configure multiple devices... it gets complex
[15:50] <holstein> when you fire up skype and its talking to something pulse is routing it to that is not what you are monitoring
[15:51] <holstein> i didnt mean to imply pulse was a device.. nor that complexity was an "opinion"
[15:51] <holstein> i should have said "i find configuring skype more challenging when i have multiple sound devices"
[15:52] <zequence> default settings for skype audio now that I installed it was, PA, PA, PA
[15:52] <zequence> So, all you need to do is configure PA
[15:53] <holstein> sure.. assuming that works and you understand that
[15:53] <holstein> i dont think meo knows what pulse is
[15:53] <holstein> nor a repo
[15:53] <holstein> but.. we are getting there
[15:54] <holstein> i'll just keep quiet.. just know that he has *not* used that mic yet, and we dont know what version of skype he is using
[15:55] <zequence> I can't choose anything else than PA in skype settings
[15:55] <zequence> But this is a reasonably new skype, since it's on 13.04
[17:20] <falktx_> skype only lists pulseaudio if its running
[17:20] <falktx_> http://imgr.us/images/hdua09jcjg0amm6g3h3g.png
[17:46] <zequence> I think Skype only comes for 12.04, but that version works for all releases post 12.04
[17:48] <zequence> falktx_: I don't get a list like that. I can only choose pulseaudio
[17:48] <falktx_> yep
[17:48] <falktx_> zequence: when pulseaudio is running, that list only has pulseaudio
[17:53] <falktx_> I'm not sure this is the case for US
[17:56] <zequence> falktx_: Is pulseaudio configured differently for you?
[17:58] <zequence> falktx_: Same result here, when pulse is not running


[01:26] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, tuxd00d said: ubotu: What is !rockbox?
[02:52] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, safwan said: ubotu , the website is cool but it needs more work on GUI
[03:48] <effie_jayx> its awful quiet :D
[03:49] <nalioth> be thankful
[03:49] <nalioth> the trolls are out and about elsewhere
[03:50] <effie_jayx> :D
[03:50] <effie_jayx> good lord you are almighty... trolls are away
[03:50] <effie_jayx> nalioth,  monday is not an overall good IRC day
[03:51] <nalioth> monday is not a good overall day, period.
[03:52] <effie_jayx> lol
[04:38] <mneptok> callin' out, in transit. callin' out, in transit.
[09:15] <ubotu> magnetron called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:17] <Hobbsee> why is freenode banning an entire isp?
[03:17] <Hobbsee> desm.qwest.net
[03:18] <Tm_T> hilarious
[03:19] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: maybe you should poke staff
[03:19] <Tm_T> and why people ask me bad questions
[03:19] <Tm_T> 16:01 < JohnFlux> Tm_T: do you code?
[03:19] <Tm_T> 16:02 < JohnFlux> Tm_T: or help with KDE in some way
[03:20] <ompaul> !seen Seveas
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen seveas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <ompaul> @seen Seveas
[03:21] <Tm_T> well, I guess, but enough for some limit noone defines
[03:21] <Tm_T> hmm, am I slow today?
[03:22] <Tm_T> bah,food ->
[03:22] <ompaul> I had hot food
[03:22] <ompaul> and it is hotter :)
[03:22] <mc44> ompaul: you saw his email to -irc?
[03:23] <elkbuntu> no mad flying dutchman for a month :(
[03:23] <mc44> can't fly tho
[03:23] <Pici> Where can I find this email?
[03:24] <ompaul> no
[03:24] <ompaul> mc44: guess I should web it
[03:27] <ompaul> got it, I have a frame of reference for it
[03:27] <ompaul> so that figures
[03:27] <mc44> he just got too annoyed with that elkbuntu I heard
[03:28] <elkbuntu> lol
[03:28] <elkbuntu> has anyone heard if he'll at least be around enough to fix the bot as it needs fixing?
[03:29] <PriceChild> ompaul, I have his msn which he's online on but currently "idle"
[03:29] <ompaul> does not read like that
[03:29] <ompaul> PriceChild: you should not advertise that :)
[03:29] <mc44> elkbuntu: whats b0rked?
[03:29] <ompaul> mc44: nothing
[03:29] <elkbuntu> mc44, nothing atm, but give it time and something will
[03:30] <elkbuntu> especially a whole monh
[03:30] <elkbuntu> month*
[03:30] <mc44> ah! "as and when" as opposed to "as"
[03:30] <mc44> :)
[03:30] <PriceChild> i didn't touch him!
[03:30] <elkbuntu> PriceChild, of course not, he's running from mc44
[03:30] <mc44> muhaha
[03:30] <mc44> maybe I shouldn't have told him he was the sexy
[03:31] <elkbuntu> seems that way
[03:32] <mc44> iz fake ompaul!
[03:33] <Hobbsee> oh noes!!!
[03:33] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: hm?
[03:34] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: wasn tsure if someone who'd been banned could actually speak
[03:34] <Tm_T> ok
[03:34] <ompaul> right now I am going to change terminals
[03:34] <Tm_T> and?
[03:34] <ompaul> this is plain nuts
[03:34] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: what did you find out?
[03:34] <Hobbsee> seems to work
[03:35] <Tm_T> me is confused
[03:35] <Tm_T> +/
[05:08] <ubotu> defrysk called the ops in #ubuntu
[05:19] <Tm_T> flood in #ubuntu
[05:19] <ubotu> Pici called the ops in #ubuntu
[05:19] <PriceChild> Tm_T, we don't get hilighted by "flood in #ubuntu" P
[05:19] <Tm_T> I know
[05:19] <Tm_T> that's my way of throwing every day challenges ;)
[05:19] <Tm_T> who is fastest gets kicks
[05:20] <Tm_T> ok, but you kicked my adsl line apparently
[05:20] <Tm_T> got nice cut
[06:23] <mneptok> raaar
[06:23] <mc44> argh!
[06:24] <Hobbsee> ROAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:25] <Pici> o.o
[06:25] <Hobbsee> mneptok: where have you been?
[06:25] <mneptok> Hobbsee: as of this weekend woowoo is a KDE girl
[06:25] <mneptok> :)
[06:25] <Hobbsee> woot!
[06:25] <mc44> boo!
[06:25] <tonyyarusso> Another lost one
[06:26] <mneptok> eh, she needs Kexi and has no GNOME apps upon which she's dependent
[06:26] <mc44> tonyyarusso: never fear, we shall get them back with force!
[06:27] <Hobbsee> with gnome 25, yes.
[06:27] <mc44> gnome 2.20, now with tasers!
[06:28] <Hobbsee> mmm...tasers...
[06:28] <mc44> long, pointy tasers :P
[06:28] <mneptok> tasers are like lasers, but with more t
[06:29] <Hobbsee> mmm....lasers...
[06:29] <mc44> Mr. T Amplification by stimulated emission of radiation
[07:48] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, rollerskatejamms said: !cups is not really helpful erUSUL
[10:34] <ompaul> hate that
[10:35] <GazzaK> hate what?
[10:35] <GazzaK> oh, rude /quits
[10:35] <mneptok> why that little fu ...HEY HEY!
[10:40] <ompaul> mneptok, :)
[10:40] <ompaul> gotim
[10:40] <ompaul> here and -offtopic
[10:41] <ikonia> the nick "qban" suggests he's not stranger to being banned
[10:41] <ikonia> evening guys
[10:42] <ompaul> ikonia, hi there
[10:42] <ikonia> he
[10:42] <ikonia> hey
[10:42] <mneptok> arr.
[10:45] <GazzaK> ikonia, neither am I..... :-)
[10:45] <ikonia> give fogwar a nudge in #ubuntu will you
[10:45] <GazzaK> actually, it's mostly a remove, not a ban
[10:55] <gnomefreak> nixternal: thank you for setting up meeting
[11:56] <Tm_T> PriceChild: you ended up to my tabfilling =)
[11:56] <Tm_T> it was _that_ close from accident
[11:57] <PriceChild> hehe sorry :)
[11:57] <Tm_T> well no harm done =)
[11:57] <Tm_T> just freaked me a bit
[11:57] <Tm_T> PriceChild: I bet you have some neat scripts for that btw
[11:58] <PriceChild> just seveas' chanserv.py for xchat
[11:59] <Tm_T> hrrr
[11:59] <Tm_T> xchat, hrrrr
[11:59] <Tm_T> that's, well, gui, evil
[11:59] <ubotu> kelvin called the ops in #ubuntu
[12:00] <PriceChild> hehe
[12:00] <PriceChild> there's a version floating around for irssi too
[12:00] <Tm_T> hrr
[12:00] <mc44> .!ops | can you help me with compiz? :P
[12:06] <Pumpernickle> Sure... here's an easy, two-step guide to using compiz to its best effect.
[12:06] <Pumpernickle> 1.  Don't install it.
[12:07] <Pumpernickle> 2.  See 1.
[12:07] <mc44> :)
[12:07] <mh_le> hello... I would like enquire (spelling) as to when I might be unbanned from #ubuntu?
[12:08] <mc44> gnomefreak: ^
[12:08] <Pici> mc44: ^
[12:09] <mc44> Pici: ...?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> mc44: ?
[12:09] <Pici> mc44: dunno
[12:09] <mc44> gnomefreak: mh_le is your ban :)
[12:09] <gnomefreak> ah let me look
[12:09] <gnomefreak> @btlogin
[12:10] <PriceChild> mh_le, any particular reason why you would like to return to #ubuntu ?
[12:10] <gnomefreak> mh_le: not yet
[12:10] <gnomefreak> it will be a while
[12:11] <mh_le> all right, good night all


[09:27] <eagle> ..the update information is outdated (32 days), anyone knows why this happens and how to fix it?


[20:22] <slashd> Can you please nominate LP: #1650635 affecting Xenial kernel ?
[20:22] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1650635 in linux (Ubuntu) "vmxnet3 driver could causes kernel panic with v4.4 if LRO enabled." [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1650635
[21:41] <rbasak> Looks like somebody else already did it


[07:33] <nikolam> I sometimes can't open file manager on Xubuntu 17,10, e.g. it freezes not opening, then it opens 3 times and freezed for some time and then unfreeze
[07:34] <nikolam> I just mounted NFS share before opening, maybe it is related?
[07:35] <nikolam> The day before I got situation where fiel manager were on screen but unresponsive, then after some time started working again
[11:21] <xubuntu59i> Does xubuntu collect user information?
[11:21] <xubuntu59i> Like at all?
[11:21] <xubuntu59i> i don't want to install botnet shit
[11:29] <Andrio> ?
[23:30] <Kumool> any way to keybindings that will switch to window 1, window 2 and so on?
[23:30] <Kumool> this is more a question for #xfce, woops


[02:38] <r2d2rogers> Chat night tonight?
[02:42] <kwadroke> supposed to be
[02:42] <r2d2rogers> Cool
[03:07] <az7> wooo
[03:10] <r2d2rogers> howdy
[03:11] <az7> what is up
[03:11] <r2d2rogers> not too much
[03:12] <r2d2rogers> trying to decide how to backup a vista box before I wipe it
[03:17] <r2d2rogers> How hard is it to find a place with a big yard in conway?
[03:18] <r2d2rogers> looks like I might get to start looking up there soon
[03:38] <az7> dunno, never moved down there?
[03:40] <kwadroke> depends on what part of conway
[03:53] <kwadroke> anyone else find 11.04 buggy?
[03:53] <DoubleB> When is conway going to have its own SXSW?
[03:53] <kwadroke> we are having a tech conference
[03:54] <kwadroke> http://www.centralinteractive.com/
[03:54] <DoubleB> is cottonr trying to get that started?
[03:55] <kwadroke> yeah
[03:55] <kwadroke> "Central Interactive is a 2 day conference featuring tracks for Business Management, Information Technology, Design & Development, and Marketing. If you're looking for inspiration, this conference is for you."
[03:55] <kwadroke> quote from facebook
[03:56] <DoubleB> is their a site?
[03:56] <kwadroke> underconstruction apparently
[03:57] <kwadroke> the url I posted above
[03:58] <Ahmuck> evening
[03:58] <Ahmuck> just got in from our monthly LUG meeting
[03:58] <kwadroke> just a landing page right now
[03:58] <kwadroke> cool
[04:00] <DoubleB> ah
[04:12] <kwadroke> who's all upgraded to 11.04?
[04:13] <r2d2rogers> o/
[04:13] <r2d2rogers> not without some bumps
[04:14] <kwadroke> yeah
[04:14] <r2d2rogers> I had issues with wireless on my netbook
[04:14] <kwadroke> monday I was having all kind of trouble
[04:14] <kwadroke> still can't get it to play video properly on my Intel video card & multiple monitors
[04:14] <r2d2rogers> oh boy
[04:15] <r2d2rogers> I'll have to watch when I plug in to my external monitor again
[04:15] <kwadroke> audio plays,just shows a black box where the video should be
[04:15] <kwadroke> tried mplayer, vlc and movie player
[04:15] <r2d2rogers> flash video the same?
[04:16] <kwadroke> flash has been crashing
[04:16] <kwadroke> but I think I have got flash to play properly
[04:16] <kwadroke> can't remember for sure
[04:17] <DoubleB> so is wayland the culprit to the video problems?
[04:17] <kwadroke> no, I don't think they've switched to wayland yet
[04:18] <DoubleB> I meant unity
[04:18] <kwadroke> I use lxde
[04:18] <DoubleB> oh
[04:35] <DoubleB> I am drying my Roku remote my son thought it needed a bath. >:O
[05:03] <az7> anybody give gnome3 a try yet?


[00:01] <wxl> @tsimonq2: also do you know why dan is seeing that again?
 Not sure
[00:05] <wxl> hm
[00:05] <wxl> maybe we should get a bug filed
 ok
[00:14] <wxl> @kc2bez can you do that?
[00:14] <wxl> (in the daily)
 I will do that in a few.
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://i.imgur.com/tyh7fPh.jpg How to fix
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://i.imgur.com/TcBzwPm.jpg
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://i.imgur.com/egVXMMI.jpg
[00:49] <wxl> @Cliff905 use the support channel
 (Photo, 59x43) https://i.imgur.com/5W5Snxx.jpg after las upgrade all my notifications are "collected" in this system tray icon. Any ideas how to congure it?
[01:09] <wxl> ooh that's neat
[01:09] <wxl> but no XD
[01:09] <wxl> no context menu? or maybe something in the panel config? or lxqt settings?
 (Photo, 454x433) https://i.imgur.com/MOV79xf.jpg that's all I get
[01:10] <wxl> what about the second option?
[01:10] <wxl> and what are you trying to configure?
 (Photo, 454x433) https://i.imgur.com/VwULd63.jpg and this
 that they are not "collected"
[01:11] <wxl> what does that mean?
[01:12] <wxl> NP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-L6zc-xlU0
 duracion por defecto = default duration ... ancho = width ... espaciado = space ... cuantas se guardan = how many are stored
 maybe the last on in 0 help
[01:14] <wxl> no i mean what do you mean by "that they are not 'collected'?"
 yup, that it's
 last one in 0
 @wxl [<wxl> no i mean what do you mean by "that they are not 'collected'?"], that this tray icon doesn't appear
[01:15] <wxl> but you figured it out?
 ys
[01:15] <wxl> ok
[01:15] <wxl> :)
 is a nice feature, but it needs to be configured
 in my case every volume up/down was a notification
[01:15] <wxl> let's play with that and see if we can come up with a good default configuration
[01:16] <wxl> hm
 (Photo, 345x146) https://i.imgur.com/KcpE949.jpg
[01:16] <wxl> ew
[01:16] <wxl> can we turn notifications off for particular apps?
 it supposed to be
 there is something like "ignore this applications"
[01:17] <wxl> do we need to consult the c++ manual? XD
 haven't tried it
 apparently...
 anyway, since you are available. You had an issue with lxqt-sudo. may be it is solved in 0.14
 at least now the fp.conf from featherpad don'w get owned by root when running with lxqt-sudo
[01:21] <wxl> yeah we're going to (a) fine tooth comb all the changes and (b) check to see if our cherry picks are in the released version and (c) go over bugs and see if they're fixed
 Speaking of bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm-qt/+bug/1813687
[01:23] <wxl> tgx
[01:23] <wxl> s/g/h/
[01:24] <wxl> that is bizarre
[01:24] <kc2bez> YW I think :D
[01:25] <wxl> @HMollerCl presumedly that application ignore is an executable so i'm not sure how we can avoid the volume control without avoiding ALL of lxqt-panel
[01:26] <wxl> oh no i'm wrong
[01:26] <wxl> hm
[01:26] <wxl> can't get the notification to trigger by moving the volume control with the mouse
 @wxl [<wxl> can't get the notification to trigger by moving the volume control with th …], With button?
[01:27] <wxl> you have to trigger it with a shortcut
[01:27] <wxl> ane sadly i'm right
[01:28] <wxl> it's lxqt-panel
[01:28] <kc2bez> My notifications don't look like that. I don't have anything re: volume
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> My notifications don't look like that. I don't have anything re: volume], You have to that with keyboard keys or shortcuts
[01:28] <wxl> https://share.riseup.net/#kxAGwsxQIjIFasGKkfxpsA
[01:29] <wxl> see the application name? that's what you have to use in the ignore application settings
[01:29] <wxl> might be good to set up an upstream bug about that
[01:30] <kc2bez> Oh bummer, I hadn't noticed that. I don't use the keyboard keys for that too much but that is annoying.
[01:31] <wxl> the tooltip explains https://share.riseup.net/#D0LP8PkNbdrU7AM8N3r45Q
 @kc2bez [Speaking of bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm-qt/+bug/18136 …], I'm at the point where I'm just going to carve out that stupid prompt
 It's annoying and all I've heard are complaints
[01:32] <wxl> if you look at the notifications you can see what they mean by "on top" https://share.riseup.net/#zP-ph9frJXRbt_A0nHM1dQ
[01:33] <wxl> i don't mind the trusted executable thing at all. we had it fixed for a while. something changed. i'm sure it's a trivial fixed.
[01:33] <wxl> s/ed\./\./
[01:33] <wxl> :/
 wxl: lxqt-notification is in v0.14 but lxqt-panel in en v0.13 maybe when all are in 0.14 it's solved
[01:53] <wxl> good thought
 since you are all here
 there is an option to change the panel icon
 maybe we could put dark in the panel and light (or normal) in the rest
 or put papirus normal on everything
[01:56] <wxl> oh hm
[01:56] <wxl> might be worth playing with
[01:56] <wxl> i guess maybe if we're coming up with bugs and we're not in 0.13 we should just as a rule ignore it until 0.14 comes out
 actually, with papirus normal in all everything except nm-tray looks good
[01:57]  * wxl strangles nm-tray
 (Photo, 363x33) https://i.imgur.com/QKc5SDF.jpg look
 the one that looks whit is nm-applet, the gat nm-tray
[01:59] <wxl> bah
 I don't get why nm-applet looks good and nm-tray looks bad
[02:00] <wxl> cuz nm-tray designers suck? XD
 I thought that they took the icons from the system
[02:01] <wxl> i'm not sure
 maybe nm-tray doesn't
[02:02] <wxl> probably doesn
[02:02] <wxl> t
[02:02] <wxl> headed home
[02:02] <wxl> talk soon
[03:15] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL34e53754c18b: Add pcmanfm-qt edit bookmarks] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL34e53754c18b
[03:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALeef95dc28e58: finish edit bookmarks dialog] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALeef95dc28e58
[03:44] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALfd2894ab9baf: style create new archieve for ARK] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALfd2894ab9baf
[03:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL834f1a54f5fc: Add open recent and how to clear list of recent files] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL834f1a54f5fc
[04:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL9a8d7dcf67fc: Add open, preview, rename files in ARK] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL9a8d7dcf67fc
[04:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL89c2e49bc0fd: Add delete files from archieve] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL89c2e49bc0fd
[20:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL8eb8da487530: Add menu to view print queue] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL8eb8da487530
[20:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALfc7a7bdf223f: Add how to delete a printer] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALfc7a7bdf223f
 (Photo, 491x374) https://i.imgur.com/8MIwmKJ.jpg look at th VCL
[20:38] <wxl> huh
[20:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL78bde7344bab: Add On AC for power management] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL78bde7344bab
 @wxl [<wxl> huh], LO 6.2 has VCL=qt5
 the filepicker has the checkbox for extensio, but it doesn't add teh extension.
 when should be LO 6.2 added to ubuntu?
[20:41] <wxl> that would be something to ask what's his name
[20:41] <wxl> that one guy
[20:41] <wxl> osolomon or whatever???
 oSoMoN
 You can find him in #ubuntu-desktop
 we might have to create a package called libreoffice-qt5 (as lo-gtk3 and lo-kde5 exists)
[20:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc865b403e457: Add when using external monitor context for powermangement] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc865b403e457
 Feel free to bring it up to him, otherwise I can.
 osomon is not in t ubuntu-desktop now
 Ok
 Tomorrow morning maybe
[20:53] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALbcb335edafdd: Add more settings for low power] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALbcb335edafdd
[21:07] <wxl> so our problem with desktop file is there
[21:07] <wxl> still there i mean
[21:08] <wxl> gio info lubuntu-calamares.desktop | grep trusted shows metadata::trusted: true
 Should it be metadata::trust or trusted ?
[21:09] <wxl> checking on thta
[21:09] <wxl> pretty sure it's trusted
 The patch got removed on the new version, I was looking at the source and I thought it had trust.
 But I may have that wrong too, it isn't in front of me.
[21:11] <wxl> casper certainly uses trusted https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/tree/scripts/casper-bottom/25adduser#n87
[21:11] <wxl> and that's trunk so it hasn't changed
[21:13] <wxl> huh seems like libfm-qt has NO patches?
[21:14] <wxl> yeah we killed them all
[21:14] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLIBFMQTPACKAGING88d19f7ee1325b28fa94f9507dffe0298ed35f35
[21:14] <wxl> right there
 Yeah, it looks like they all got removed but are they in the new code?
[21:15] <wxl> including the key one which shows trusted https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/libfm-qt/change/ubuntu%252Fdisco/debian/patches/add-metadata-for-trusting-executables.patch;88d19f7ee1325b28fa94f9507dffe0298ed35f35
[21:17] <wxl> oh for god's sake https://github.com/lxqt/libfm-qt/blob/781bbe3da673b3e9d5a141163b64959234e211b1/src/core/fileinfo.cpp#L13
[21:18] <wxl> part of a big C++11 cleanup pcmanfm did
[21:18] <wxl> https://github.com/lxqt/libfm-qt/commit/2a6f344271e883e326a326ba89e48566a3a8c857
 I was starting to look at it this morning and was wondering. I planned to get back to it tonight.
 I have a feeling that is related to why my patch didn't go for pcmanfm too.
[21:21] <wxl> i feel like i requested lxqt to use trusted
[21:21] <wxl> i can't find it though
[21:22] <wxl> https://github.com/lxqt/libfm-qt/pull/242#issuecomment-429918205
[21:22] <wxl> there we go
[21:23] <wxl> shot down as usual
[21:23] <wxl> tl;dr we need to patch it and keep that patch ourselves
[21:24] <wxl> and wherever "metadata::trust" gets added we need to watch out for it. siiiiiigh
[21:24] <wxl> i would like to see that the patch/commit include clear notes referring to that conversation so we don't have to re-create this again
[21:24] <wxl> that said, you want to drum that up dan?
 I can try, I will need some guidance though.
[21:26] <wxl> it should be a simple case of digging through and finding any instance of metadata::trust and swapping it for metadata::trusted
[21:27] <wxl> grab the source and grep -R
[21:28] <wxl> note it's only libfm-qt, not pcmanfm-qt that needs to be messed with
[21:28] <wxl> i'm SURE there will be issues with symbols, so you'll need help with that
[21:28] <wxl> simon's the wizard there
[21:29] <wxl> AND when we finally get it in, we'll have to have a no-change recompile of pcmanfm-qt, too
 I will be available in about 1-2 hours when I get home. I will give it a whirl.
[21:38] <wxl> i just did `gio set lubuntu-calamares.desktop metadata::trust true` and all is well
[21:38] <wxl> seemed to require a logout to take effect
[21:38] <lynorian> wxl no good for live session and install
[21:42] <wxl> lynorian: what do you mean?
[22:15] <wxl> actually it looks like you could copy simon's previous work dan https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLIBFMQTPACKAGING9abec1c8dddc2cdb5f362a7ecb9ce9bf1cd00831
[22:27] <lynorian> wxl logging out and logging back in again
[22:27] <wxl> lynorian: worked for me. huh
[22:28] <wxl> you did set metadata::trust right?
[22:28] <lynorian> no I haven't tried this I used to think logging out and back in again didn't work in live session  oops
[22:29] <wxl> OH
[22:29] <wxl> it didn't used to
[22:29] <wxl> does now
[22:29] <wxl> we fixed that last release
[23:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T180: Fix trusted executables AGAIN] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T180


[02:42] <carif__> can snappy look for snaps at multiple websites besides system-image.ubuntu.com? If so, how do I add my own website on an unbuntu core system?
[02:43] <carif__> I'm thinking something in /etc/system-image/config.d/30_local_repository.ini
[02:43] <carif__> ... and its a little odd that these are ini files and not yaml files
[02:46] <damjan> .ini files are just fine for most things. it's not often that you need hierarchy in configs
[09:17] <svij> I've created a my package… but when I try to run the binary, I'll get a "execv failed: Permission denied". Any hint where I should look to fix this?
[09:17] <svij> *my first snap package
[11:21] <Chipaca> svij: you still there?
[13:48] <carif__> svij, from the hello-world example, i noticed they added a 'caps: []' to each binary in the sequence of binaries in package.yaml, see http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/snappy-hub/snappy-examples/view/head:/hello-world/meta/package.yaml
[13:49] <carif__> I think this is for apparmor but I don't know much about apparmor so I defer to the more knowledgable on the channel
[13:49] <carif__> for my first snap, I got a similar error, added this and then it worked
[13:50] <carif__> the documentation doesn't identify this in its example


[16:58] <eee444> hi, could someone hwlp me get my dwl650 to work with aircrack?
[21:02] <The_Gentleman> hi guys
[21:03] <The_Gentleman> I saw online that a votebot was here
[21:03] <The_Gentleman> Is the source code available?
[21:04] <Unit193> There isn't one in this channel, but there is one that has that function as part of a meeting bot.
[21:05] <Unit193> ( https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bots/ubuntu-bots/meetingology )
[21:05] <The_Gentleman> thanks
[21:57] <nothingspecial> hi linuxfan247
[21:57] <bodhi_zazen> much quieter
[21:58] <nothingspecial> better help here
[21:58] <linuxfan247> youre here too
[21:58] <linuxfan247> ok
[21:58] <nothingspecial> what's the problem linuxfan247 ?
[21:58] <linuxfan247> here my ubuntu issue
[21:59] <linuxfan247> I have ubuntu 12.04 lxf remix
[22:00] <linuxfan247> but it stops at the loading screen with the little dots
[22:00] <linuxfan247> thats where it freezes
[22:01] <bodhi_zazen> what graphics card is it ?
[22:01] <linuxfan247> the ubuntu I am running now is juanty jakalope
[22:01] <nothingspecial> that is old linuxfan247
[22:02] <nothingspecial> try a newer version
[22:02] <linuxfan247> not sure it is a 64 bit
[22:02] <bodhi_zazen> nothingspecial: 12.04 is what is broken =)
[22:02] <linuxfan247> 3plus gig processor
[22:03] <nothingspecial> :)
[22:03] <linuxfan247> 160 gig hd
[22:03] <linuxfan247> 2 processors
[22:03] <linuxfan247> =3gigs
[22:04] <nothingspecial> sorry
[22:04] <linuxfan247> ghz i mean
[22:04] <linuxfan247> writing too fast
[22:04] <bodhi_zazen> sort of off topic now linuxfan247
[22:05] <linuxfan247> just giving spec
[22:05] <linuxfan247> how do I fix it
[22:05] <bodhi_zazen> those are not the spec that matter
[22:05] <linuxfan247> what does
[22:05] <bodhi_zazen> bodhi_zazen	what graphics card is it ?
[22:06] <linuxfan247> bodhi not sure what?
[22:06] <bodhi_zazen> you need to identify your graphics card
[22:07] <linuxfan247> wait I'll google it
[22:07] <bodhi_zazen> lspci | grep VGA
[22:08] <linuxfan247> looking up emachine #
[22:08] <linuxfan247> t5216
[22:08] <bodhi_zazen> lspci -nn | grep VGA
[22:09] <bodhi_zazen> run that command in a terminal ^^
[22:10] <linuxfan247> antion express 200
[22:10] <linuxfan247> have a link of exact picture what it looks like
[22:11] <linuxfan247> hello
[22:12] <linuxfan247> General Features: Microsoft Windows XP Media Center 2005 pre-installed w/COA Intel Pentium D 2.66 GHz (Dual Core) processor 805 512 MB DDR2 SDRAM (expandable up to 2 GB) 160 GB hard drive DVD±RW 16x double layer drive No floppy drive ATI Radeon Xpress 200 56K ITU V.92 modem Integrated 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Built-in Memory Card Reader  Supported Memory Cards: SD MMC SM MS MS PRO xD CF MicroDrive
[22:16] <linuxfan247> hi
[22:16] <linuxfan247> where is nothingspecial ?
[22:20] <linuxfan247> did that info help "nothingspecial"
[22:22] <linuxfan247> I am not trying to spam just get answers how to install my ubuntu dvd
[22:42] <nothingspecial> :(


[01:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lxqt-panel-packaging] tsimonq2 created debian/sid at 09e311a (+0 new commits): https://git.io/vNjKT
[01:10] <tsimonq2> there we go
[01:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lxqt-panel-packaging] lubuntu-lugito created HEAD from ubuntu/bionic (+0 new commits): https://git.io/vNj6Z
[01:25] <tsimonq2> O_o
[01:25] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[02:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lxqt-panel-packaging] tsimonq2 pushed 8 new commits to ubuntu/bionic: https://git.io/vNjPx
[02:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lxqt-panel-packaging/ubuntu/bionic 078a38b Simon Quigley: plugin-volume: Use a specific icon for the panel.
[02:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lxqt-panel-packaging/ubuntu/bionic 3ed508a Simon Quigley: Fix various memory leaks.
[02:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lxqt-panel-packaging/ubuntu/bionic 8d4c93c Simon Quigley: Avoid infinite recursion when no icon is available.
[02:35] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lxqt-runner-packaging] tsimonq2 tagged ubuntu/0.12.0-4ubuntu1 at ubuntu/bionic: https://git.io/vNj11
[03:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lxqt-globalkeys-packaging] tsimonq2 created ubuntu/bionic (+7 new commits): https://git.io/vNjDF
[03:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lxqt-globalkeys-packaging/ubuntu/bionic 76cfbfa Simon Quigley: Fix wrong radio buttons when changing shortcuts.
[03:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lxqt-globalkeys-packaging/ubuntu/bionic cf157c0 Simon Quigley: Avoid polluting the the x11 shortcut map.
[03:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lxqt-globalkeys-packaging/ubuntu/bionic 8a7f3aa Simon Quigley: Add super key binding support.
[03:34] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lxqt-qtplugin-packaging] tsimonq2 tagged ubuntu/0.12.0-4ubuntu1 at ubuntu/bionic: https://git.io/vNjyl
 Alright, so I just spent a bit of time going through and backporting a couple of useful patches to the LXQt stack in Bionic. Nothing huge, a handful of bugfixes, but still :)
[03:37] <tsimonq2> I just look at how close feature freeze is and I wanted these fixes in :)
[03:40] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lxqt-panel-packaging] lubuntu-lugito deleted HEAD at f274b6d: https://git.io/vNjyi
[03:40] <tsimonq2> There.
[03:40] <tsimonq2> Cool.
[04:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] ianorlin opened pull request #15: Start writing xpad documentation. (master...master) https://git.io/vNjSo
[04:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lxqt-globalkeys-packaging] lubuntu-lugito created HEAD from ubuntu/bionic (+0 new commits): https://git.io/vNjHm
[04:25] <tsimonq2> *sigh* why
[04:25]  * tsimonq2 shrugs and moves on
[04:44] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] tsimonq2 pushed 6 new commits to master: https://git.io/vNjHp
[04:44] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master 290fda6 Simon Quigley: Double the size of the Firefox image.
[04:44] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master f0ab81c Simon Quigley: Move Transmission to the right spot.
[04:44] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master f0b821d Simon Quigley: Do some trivial rearranging and change all screenshots to 80%.
[04:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] tsimonq2 pushed 4 new commits to master: https://git.io/vNjQ0
[04:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master 12948ed Lyn Perrine: Start writing xpad documentation.
[04:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master d626a5d Simon Quigley: Add a better Leafpad screenshot.
[04:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master 57276a6 Simon Quigley: Add XPad documentation (#15).
[04:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] tsimonq2 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vNjQi
[04:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master a7ee904 Simon Quigley: Add a screenshot for charactermap and rename the files to be a bit easier on the tooling.
[05:03] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] tsimonq2 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vNjQN
[05:03] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master 14b9afa Simon Quigley: Fix whining.
[05:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] tsimonq2 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vNj7U
[05:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master 54539e7 Simon Quigley: Yeah, let's take that screenshot down a notch. 😅
[05:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] tsimonq2 force-pushed master from 54539e7 to 1ee22f6: https://git.io/vNV1Z
[05:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master 5caed01 Simon Quigley: Initial commit
[05:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master 03061bb Simon Quigley: Add LICENSE and README.md
[05:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master ab411ba Simon Quigley: Add start to Chapter 1
[05:10] <tsimonq2> That should be the last of the force pushes for now, sorry.
[05:12] <tsimonq2> Well, for lubuntu-manual...
[05:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-about] tsimonq2 force-pushed master from a467bfe to e079dbd: https://git.io/vNj7Z
[05:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-about/master 9f8807a Simon Quigley: Initial commit.
[05:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-about/master 21c9c9c Simon Quigley: Fix whining.
[05:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-about/master 63fa7da Simon Quigley: Move things around and deal with the resource file.
[05:14] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-about] tsimonq2 force-pushed master from e079dbd to ff0561e: https://git.io/vNj7Z
[05:14] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-about/master 8a41243 Simon Quigley: Initial commit.
[05:14] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-about/master 619f3a9 Simon Quigley: Fix whining.
[05:14] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-about/master 7a3a7a4 Simon Quigley: Move things around and deal with the resource file.
[05:15] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] tsimonq2 force-pushed master from 1ee22f6 to 07b555c: https://git.io/vNV1Z
[05:15] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master f355bf2 Simon Quigley: Initial commit
[05:15] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master 8aa0df4 Simon Quigley: Add LICENSE and README.md
[05:15] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master 57ec45e Simon Quigley: Add start to Chapter 1
[05:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] lubuntu-lugito created HEAD from master (+0 new commits): https://git.io/vNj7h
[15:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] m4sk1n pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vAeKY
[15:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master e80e9e5 Marcin Mikołajczak: Update translation files to current sources, update Polish translation and fix some typos...
[17:33] <agaida> Cool - you are migrating Lubuntu next away from openbox? Clever move.
 @agaida, No?
 Where'd you hear that?
[17:35] <agaida> oh, i just see it in the latest manifest - congrats
 @julienlavergne When you can, please upload Lubuntu-default-settings
[17:36] <agaida> äh - beside a full kde-runtime, kde-breeze and so on
[17:38] <agaida> you even don't forget to install kio and kinit
 ...
[18:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-default-settings] lubuntu-lugito pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vAvfS
[18:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-default-settings/master ad847ab Julien Lavergne: Fix typo in debian/control, thanks lintian
[18:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-default-settings] lubuntu-lugito pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vAvTp
[18:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-default-settings/master e10bf6c Julien Lavergne: Update debian/changelog
[19:51] <JEBjames> re: Bionic beta bug #1746807.  Install still fails with "The installer cannot find a suitable kernel package to install" for the last 6 days.
 We're working on it, if you would idle it would help us respond :)
[19:52] <JEBjames> I attached /var/log/syslog from bad install to the bug report.  What else can I do?
 We're working on it; I think one of us might have to diagnose it because the usual people seem busy with a transition mess in the archive :/
 I'll look at it tonight
[19:54] <JEBjames> I have instructed my bot to thank your bot to thank you.
[19:55] <JEBjames> ;)
[19:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-default-settings] lubuntu-lugito pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vAvYS
[19:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-default-settings/master e946745 Julien Lavergne: Release 0.51
 ;)
[19:56] <JEBjames> fyi...I run an automated test pretty much every day.  Just would like to know a better way to get feedback to proper people...as most cases I am sure it's a quick fix if the person who broke it know it was broke.
 Idle in here, really.
[19:57] <JEBjames> I hear you.  Just idling in irc gives me the dejavus.
 Do you have Matrix or Telegram?
[19:58] <JEBjames> no.
 Then there's the mailing list :)
[19:59] <JEBjames> I'm suspecting you are giving more and more soul crushing options until I realize idling in irc is the lesser of two evils.  Please don't confirm this.
 I'm not...
[20:00] <JEBjames> lol
 :)
[20:05] <JEBjames> any chance of a Lubuntu alternate 16.04.4?
[20:05] <JEBjames> I use the alternate for easy kickstarting.
[20:05] <JEBjames> ?
[20:09] <JEBjames> and 4.13 kernel + the grub efi from 18.04 fixes all apollo lake issues.
 @JEBjames, No.
[20:22] <JEBjames> And much crying ensued.
 ;)
 Have you tried the minimal ISO?
[20:24] <JEBjames> I've used minimal on server.
[20:25] <JEBjames> I originally used full ubuntu (before lubuntu had longer lts too) and then added lxde on top.
[20:25] <JEBjames> Just I vaguely remember some quirks I had to deal with, although that is a good idea to revisit.
[20:27] <JEBjames> Overall I do like Lubuntu.  It has it's quirks, but makes up for it for lean and mean.
[20:28] <JEBjames> I'll add retesting minimal to my never ending todo list, good idea.
[22:06] <simonizor> You can install 4.13 on 16.04 pretty easily with either `linux-generial-hwe-16.04` or `linux-generic-hwe-16.04-edge`
[22:07] <simonizor> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/RollingLTSEnablementStack


[00:33] <guiverc> vorlon, 2020-10-16.4 looks good on old hp dc7700 (preliminary) [1899308]
[00:42] <vorlon> guiverc: \o/
[00:43]  * guiverc has updated lp bug report now
[03:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: apport (focal-proposed/main) [2.20.11-0ubuntu27.10 => 2.20.11-0ubuntu27.11] (core, i386-whitelist)
[06:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: tulip (groovy-proposed/primary) [5.4.0+dfsg-1]
[06:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: dbconfig-common (groovy-proposed/universe) [2.0.13 => 2.0.14] (no packageset) (sync)
[06:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted dbconfig-common [sync] (groovy-proposed) [2.0.14]
[08:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: metacity (groovy-proposed/universe) [1:3.38.0-1 => 1:3.38.0-2] (ubuntu-desktop) (sync)
[10:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted sagetex [source] (groovy-proposed) [3.4+ds-2build1]
[10:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted tulip [sync] (groovy-proposed) [5.4.0+dfsg-1]
[10:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: sagetex [amd64] (groovy-proposed/universe) [3.4+ds-2build1] (no packageset)
[10:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted sagetex [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [3.4+ds-2build1]
[10:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: tulip [s390x] (groovy-proposed/universe) [5.4.0+dfsg-1] (no packageset)
[10:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: tulip [ppc64el] (groovy-proposed/universe) [5.4.0+dfsg-1] (no packageset)
[11:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: tulip [amd64] (groovy-proposed/universe) [5.4.0+dfsg-1] (no packageset)
[11:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted tulip [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [5.4.0+dfsg-1]
[11:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted tulip [s390x] (groovy-proposed) [5.4.0+dfsg-1]
[11:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted tulip [ppc64el] (groovy-proposed) [5.4.0+dfsg-1]
[12:38] <rbalint> vorlon, i'm patching strace to skip tests on riscv64 with current dpkg in groovy, but i think strace's (and glibc's) d/rules are correct just dated and the new dpkg patch is much cleaner
[12:39] <rbalint> vorlon, the current dpkg patch in groovy does not add nocheck to DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS in strace's and glibc's d/rules
[15:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-oem-5.6 [amd64] (focal-proposed) [5.6.0-1032.33]
[17:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-builder (groovy-proposed/universe) [3.38.0-2 => 3.38.1-1] (desktop-extra) (sync)


[12:23] <gioele> hello
[12:24] <gioele> is "public location for branch XXX" a synonym for "public branch for branch XXX"?
[12:26] <LarstiQ> gioele: context?
[12:27] <gioele> LarstiQ: lp-open
[12:27] <LarstiQ> gioele: yeah
[12:39] <gioele> can we say that in general "{push,pull,public,parent,bound} location" and "xxx branch" have the same meaning?
[12:47] <LarstiQ> gioele: branches are usually addressed by their location/url. The two aren't exactly the same things (in bzrlib one is a str, the other a Branch)
[12:47] <LarstiQ> gioele: but that's semantic nitpicking
[12:48] <LarstiQ> gioele: for the bzr cli, yeah, that should be the case
[12:49] <LarstiQ> gioele: location of the {push,pull,public,parent,bound} branch
[13:36] <gioele> what is the purpose of the 'submit location'. What is the submit branch used for?
[13:48] <gioele> I jot down my findings at http://bazaar-vcs.org/Locations Thoughts?
[20:30] <LarstiQ> BasicOSX: replied to your mail
[20:40] <BasicOSX> ok
[20:44]  * LarstiQ goes to bed
[20:45] <BasicOSX> haven't gotten your email :-)
[20:46] <LarstiQ> BasicOSX: basically, the failure is harmless, don't let it block 1.13
[20:47] <BasicOSX> ok
[20:47] <LarstiQ> BasicOSX: ok, good luck :)
[21:16] <lifeless> BasicOSX: no I didn't do the cherrypicks, I was offline - sorry
[21:17] <BasicOSX> I got it, good lesson to learn, wasn't sure how PQM worked, but figured it out, just putting the finishing touches announcements
[21:18] <lifeless> BasicOSX: cool
[21:19] <BasicOSX> IRC op please update the /topic to 1.13 release 15 Mar
[21:19] <BasicOSX> Thank you
[21:28] <cody-somerville> Is it possible to selectively revert revisions?
[21:29] <cody-somerville> ex. revert changes that occurred revision #3
[21:30] <cody-somerville> oh bloody hell, my nose is bleeding again. brb.
[21:41] <spiv> BasicOSX: thanks for the release!
[21:41] <BasicOSX> I aim to please
[21:41] <BasicOSX> I also jabber to please
[22:07] <mwhudson> yay bzr 1.13
[22:22] <lifeless> spiv: shall the two musketeers ride today?
[22:23] <spiv> lifeless: sure.  Alright if I head down to Epping?
[22:23] <lifeless> sounds great
[22:29] <jfroy> yay!
[23:01] <cammoblammo> I'm sure I'm missing something... How do I install bzr (from source) to /usr/local/bin instead of /usr/bin ?
[23:01] <BasicOSX> pretty much anywhere you want it installed
[23:01] <BasicOSX> Just need to make sure bzr is in your path
[23:02] <BasicOSX> I put it into /usr/local/share/ and symlink /usr/local/bin to /usr/local/share/
[23:02] <BasicOSX> meaning I symlink /usr/local/bin/bzr to /usr/local/share/bzr.dev/bzr
[23:02] <cammoblammo> How do I tell it where to go though? By default it goes into /usr/bin
[23:03] <BasicOSX> From tarball?
[23:04] <cammoblammo> From the bzr repo.
[23:04] <BasicOSX> how are you getting it from the repo?
[23:05] <BasicOSX> don't understand if you don't have bzr installed how are you getting bzr from a repo?
[23:05] <cammoblammo> I pulled http://bazaar-vcs.org/bzr/bzr.dev/ and update it once in a while with bzr pull.
[23:06] <BasicOSX> Just mv the bzr.dev to where you want it to live
[23:08] <lifeless> cammoblammo: are you running setup.py ?
[23:09] <cammoblammo> Yes.
[23:10] <lifeless> cammoblammo: setup.py install --home=/usr/local
[23:11] <lifeless> cammoblammo: BasicOSX is talking about an alternative where you don't really install it; just run 'make' and then symlink $(src)/bzr into your path somewhere
[23:11] <BasicOSX> yes, I am, sorry
[23:11] <Peng_> I use --prefix, not --home. :O
[23:11] <cammoblammo> Ah. I thought it'd be something like that. There isn't somewhere I can set it permanently?
[23:12] <lifeless> Peng_: either is fine, I think.
[23:12] <lifeless> cammoblammo: not as far as I know
[23:13] <cammoblammo> Oh well, I can live with it. Thanks for your help folks!
[23:14] <cammoblammo> Hmm. Is there a setup.py uninstall command?
[23:18] <lifeless> No ><. setup.py is a poor replacement for packaging [there are packages of bzr for most platforms..]
[23:21] <cammoblammo> Yeah, Debian took too long to give me something recent. I can use the --record option on install and use that to delete what doesn't need to be there.
[23:27] <jml> I'm reading my notes from last week
[23:27] <jml> and I've got one that says "Gotchas w/ progress reporting in bzr 1.13"
[23:27] <jml> does anyone have a clue what I meant? :)
[23:30] <lifeless> yes, I do
[23:31] <lifeless> bzr 1.13 does much less ('no') progress reporting during large fetches, instead the network activity reporting is the whole thing
[23:34] <jml> lifeless: but it still does fairly granular activity reporting, right?
[23:35] <lifeless> jml: I don't know what you mean
[23:35] <lifeless> so perhaps I can phrase it differently
[23:36] <lifeless> a local-disk new clone operation will output perhaps 1 seconds worth of progress bar stuff right at the start, then nothing until the tree building at the end
[23:37] <lifeless> a over the network new clone will output perhaps 1 seconds worth of progress bar stuff at the start, and then the network activity when data is being read/written to the network, then the tree building progress bar at the end
[23:37] <lifeless> fin
[23:39] <lifeless> does anyone know who yoboy is?
[23:40] <Peng_> BasicOSX and everyone else: Congrats on the release. :)
[23:54] <lifeless> igc: you can move bugs by clicking on the status, and then typing in a new product in the box
[23:56] <igc> lifeless: sure
[23:57] <lifeless> igc: :P - perhaps I was wrong to move that bug to qbzr that you'd closed?
[23:57] <igc> lifeless: And you're reminding me because?
[23:57] <lifeless> igc: because I thought you closed something that was better moved
[23:58] <igc> lifeless: I closed it because the person raising it wasn't sure how to close it
[23:58] <lifeless> erm syntax, because you closed something I thought was better moved
[23:58] <lifeless> ah
[23:58] <lifeless> my bad
[23:58] <igc> lifeless: ah - ok
[23:59]  * lifeless is a little twitchy on bugs today, after an unknown marked four unrelated surface-related-unicode bugs as dups


[00:16] <qwebirc84771> i really thought it would make t
[00:16] <qwebirc84771> make it this time*
[00:17] <qwebirc84771> changed to 64 bit os and it was up running for 10 minutes in live cd and came pretty far on the installation but now all froze again
[00:18] <phillw> qwebirc84771: 1st question, as always, have you run the self test on the CD?
[00:19] <qwebirc84771> phillw no... what is a self test? (im booting from usb, by the software ubootin)
[00:20] <phillw> when you boot, there is an option to test the 'cd' it applies also to usb media. It just carrys out an md5 checksum against all the files.
[00:21] <phillw> makes sure a byte did not get dropped as it was created.
[00:23] <qwebirc84771> hmm would be strange. have used the same software and same usbstick for installing ubuntu, pinguyos and linux mint (but not on this computer).
[00:23] <qwebirc84771> Ill try that anyway
[00:24] <phillw> it's always best to ensure the installation iso is not corrupted.. it saves so much heart ache later :)
[00:27] <qwebirc84771> do u mean "check disc for defects" ?
[00:29] <qwebirc84771> phillw go "no errors found" :/
[00:29] <qwebirc84771> :'(
[00:30] <phillw> qwebirc84771: instead of going via live .. go str8 for install. I had problems going from live and then install.
[00:31] <phillw> a little gremlin that I could not reproduce.
[00:36] <qwebirc84771> there is some strange problem aswell.  First time it smelled burned
[00:37] <qwebirc84771> no clue why, and hasnt react like that before.
[00:38] <phillw> qwebirc84771: that sounds like hardware... is it a laptop or desktop unit?
[00:38] <qwebirc84771> no its a hp pavillion with amd athlon 3800
[00:39] <phillw> qwebirc84771: it is either a laptop or a desktop unit
[00:39] <qwebirc84771> but that problem doesnt appear when im up running the live cd
[00:40] <qwebirc84771> oh, its a desktop unit
[00:41] <phillw> if there is burning smell, I guess you have a cooling fan not working. running LiveCD does not put as much strain on a system as an install does. I'd suggest you check that the fan on the CPU is not clogged up with dust.
[00:43] <phillw> qwebirc84771: http://static.compusa.com/html/guide_Basic_PC_Cooling.html
[00:43] <qwebirc84771> might be that, cuz it is very "clogged"
[00:43] <qwebirc84771> with dust
[00:43] <phillw> that site covers most of the stuff :)
[00:52] <qwebirc84771> hmm i got a air compressor, but it is pretty strong. is the computers parts very sensetive? or would it handle the most of air pressure?
[00:54] <phillw> qwebirc84771: depends on the air pressure!
[00:55] <phillw> a can of 'air' (aka de-duster) is recommended, blasting 200 p.s.i. air pressure at them is not.
[01:15] <frankcox679> howdy
[01:37] <frankcox679> I Can anyone help me with a launcher problem? I am trying to launch a webpage from the Office menu and the program installed the link incorrectly
[01:38] <frankcox679> the command says sensible-browser localhost/git-filename
[01:47] <frankcox679> anyone?
[01:56] <frankcox679> howdy yopy
[02:06] <qwebirc84771> phillw seems to work now :)
[03:22] <jophish__> yo yo yo!
[03:22] <jophish__> I'd like to unbind ToggleFullscreen from F11
[03:22] <jophish__> I've changed the binding in .config/openbox/lxde-rc.xml and /usr/share/lxde/openbox/rc.xml
[03:22] <jophish__> however f11 is still toggling fullscreen
[03:22] <jophish__> (and more importantly swallowing the keypress event)
[04:46] <grubbles> Hello, I recently installed wow on my inspiron mini and it works fine up to the playable part, that's when it crashes. my wine version is 1.2.1, I have configured config.wtf according to specifications, and I am not playing through the launcher. My netbook is rocking the intel N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller and the only propriety drivers I seam to have installed is one for sound. I was told that is because lubuntu
[04:48] <Unit193> grubbles: What version of WoW? I take it you followed the Wiki page?
[04:50] <grubbles> Unit193: I dl the launcher from battlenet and installed through wine. I'm guessing the most current
[04:54] <Unit193> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=1922 And apart from following the Wiki, I can only tell you to join their channel as I haven't ever played WoW in my life (Thus, I haven't installed it) If it works on Ubuntu but not on Lubuntu, I may be able to help you
[04:57] <LubuntuPowered> how would i go about having a second input type again? i did it myself with the previous version, but forgot how. and i can't really find help for this version or any version for that matter
[04:57] <LubuntuPowered> different language input
[05:01] <grubbles> Unit193:Thank you I will give that a look
[05:01] <JohnDoe_71Rus> LubuntuPowered: language settings? add language
[05:02] <LubuntuPowered> yeah i added it already
[05:02] <JohnDoe_71Rus> add language select to lxpanel?
[05:03] <LubuntuPowered> lxpanel?
[05:04] <JohnDoe_71Rus> language indicator
[05:04] <JohnDoe_71Rus> or some like this http://pastebin.com/Pw15y5NL
[05:07] <LubuntuPowered> i installed ibus but it didn't work out like before
[05:07] <LubuntuPowered> and nothing happens when i click on Input Method Switcher via preferences
[14:45] <leszek> hi
[14:49] <bittin> hi
[15:45] <bittin> http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2149430
[16:00] <iceroot> is it a bug or a feature that 12.04 is using lightdm instead of lxdm?
[16:02] <leszek> iceroot: a feature
[16:03] <iceroot> an ugly feature
[16:03] <iceroot> but lxdm is still installed, so i think that is a bug
[16:04] <leszek> might be
[16:04] <leszek> there will be however a lightdm theme for lubuntu I guess
[16:16] <asif> hi...
[16:18] <bittin> hi
[19:40] <xsaidx> hello guys
[19:41] <xsaidx> any idea about a tool that ican use to unlock my 3g modem
[19:41] <bioterror> why it needs to be unlocked?
[19:41] <bioterror> I just plugged my huawei into usb port, clicked that it's post paid and surfed web
[20:18] <iceroot> what is the name of the logout-screen where i can shutdown the pc or log out the current user
[20:18] <iceroot> or better, the name of the package for that window
[20:20] <Unit193> lxsession-logout
[20:21] <iceroot> Unit193: thank you
[20:56] <xsaidx> bioterror: sorry for late reaply yes i want to unlock it so ican use other provider cards which provide nice offer
[20:57] <xsaidx> any idea how to unlock  alactel 3g modem
[20:59] <phillw> bioterror: once again, my 3G Huwaeii is not seen :(
[21:01] <xsaidx> phillw: not seen as not detected ?? if so usb-modeswtich package is missing
[21:02] <iceroot> phillw: have a look at dmesg on 12.04 i am faciing the problem that usb-modeswitch is segfaulting, maybe that is also your issue
[21:02] <iceroot> and because of that my umts-modem is not seens because usb-modeswitch is not switching correctly
[21:03] <phillw> I'm on my main 11.10 but I may have broken nm... I need to set up a new user and try.
[21:04] <bioterror> buy better dongles :D
[21:05] <xsaidx> bioterror: im from morroco and i dont have an international credit card :P
[21:06] <phillw> bioterror: it is from the company 3 in the UK.... they do know about 3G :P
[21:06] <bioterror> I got mine with phone
[21:06] <bioterror> I had no other choice than take it
[21:07] <bioterror> yeah, Huawei E367 is the model
[21:26] <Unit193> jussi: A bit late, but there is a GUI way to set autologin. Thought the configfile is better, gksudo lxdm-config will let you choose if you want to set the autologin to the user running the command.
[21:30] <phillw-virtual> Unit193: would you add that to the FAQ, please? :)
[21:34] <phillw> Unit193: it seems okay on 11.10 :)
[21:34] <Unit193> Yep, I looked like it to me


[13:07] <ivoks> yay
[13:07] <ivoks><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:09] <jelly> coverage at lwn https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/853717/4c8a5f7688de23d8/ including a response from UMN


[09:33] <mapreri> the publisher looks unhealthy: https://launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev/+archive/ubuntu/stable/+build/19283853 this finished an hour ago, but it's still not published.
[09:47] <RikMills> mapreri: publisher maintenance runs on Sunday mornings. that is usual for a few hrs today
[09:48] <mapreri> oh, til
[09:48] <mapreri> ta


[12:43] <cristianR_> Hello
[12:44] <cristianR_> I'm not sure if this is the right channel to ask about firefox beta, but I am unable to install it from firefox-next ppa
[12:45] <cristianR_> I've successfully added the ppa, and imported the gpg key. I've updated the repositories, however apt keeps telling me that firefox is up to date (55.0.2+build1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>)


[00:08] <Jay2k1> baggar11: probably updating to 0.26 fixes the issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2064992&p=12281890#post12281890
[11:40] <temp> hey, I have an issue with my mythbuntu setup. The tv tuner has stopped working after I did a 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'. it was working prior to that. I did have to download firmware using the 'additional hardware drivers' tool. As far as I can tell the '/dev/dvb' heirarchy is not getting created, or the module isn't loading properly. Is anyone here able to help out with this?
[11:40] <temp> The installation is mythbuntu precise, and the tv tuners are 'Leadtek Dongle Gold'. happy to provide any info requested
[15:05] <tgm4883> temp, I'm about to go for a run, but you should check dmesg and see if any errors are coming up when booting. Also look at /var/log/apt/history.log and see if it removed anything during that last dist-upgrade
[15:05] <tgm4883> I'll be back in about 45 minutes
[17:06] <baggar11> Jay2k1: I updated to 0.26 shortly after checking the logs on 0.25. Still getting the audio drift.
[17:06] <Jay2k1> :(
[17:07] <Jay2k1> do you get it only with live tv or also with recordings?
[17:09] <baggar11> hmm, I'll have to record something on a 720p channel. I think the majority of my recordings are scheduled on 1080i stations.
[17:09] <baggar11> I'll check that out tonight
[17:16] <Jay2k1> does it only happen with 720p?
[17:17] <baggar11> I think it happens on all progressive channels, like 480p
[17:18] <baggar11> I'll have the check that again, it's been a while since I've watched a 480p channel
[17:18] <baggar11> but I think I remember it happening
[17:29] <tgm4883> baggar11, 0.26 release, or 0.26 fixes?
[17:33] <baggar11> I think both. I changed the repo to 0.26 and updated the system
[17:34] <tgm4883> ok
[17:34] <baggar11> isn't that what that does?
[17:34] <tgm4883> you could verify with a 'dpkg -l mythtv-backend' and look at the date in the package version
[17:35] <baggar11> ii  mythtv-backend      2:0.26.0+fixes.2013 Personal video recorder application (server)
[17:35] <baggar11> ii  mythtv-backend      2:0.26.0+fixes.2013 Personal video recorder application (server)
[17:35] <baggar11> oops, sorry
[17:35] <baggar11> looks like fixes
[17:36] <tgm4883> yea that looks fine. The version number is longer than that and actually has a date
[17:36] <tgm4883> but it's 2013, which isn't in the main repos so it should be fine
[17:36] <baggar11> Version: 2:0.26.0+fixes.20130718.b2f431e-0ubuntu0mythbuntu1
[17:36] <baggar11> looks pretty recent
[17:37] <tgm4883> yep
[17:40] <baggar11> so that ringbuffer.cpp error I'm getting while watching the 720p channel also happens on 1080i, but the 1080i stations don't lose sync for some reason
[17:41] <tgm4883> baggar11, is this recordings or livetv?
[17:41] <baggar11> livetv
[17:41] <tgm4883> ok
[17:41] <baggar11> I'll check the 720p recording audio drift tonight
[17:41] <baggar11> I'm not sure if it happens when it's been recorded or not
[17:41] <tgm4883> unfortunatly I don't use livetv, as I've always thought it to be an antiquated way to watch media
[17:42] <baggar11> hehe, yeah. I usually just use livetv for the news. All other media I use recordings for.
[17:43] <baggar11> I upgraded from I think 10.10 mythtbuntu to 12.04 about 1 1/2 years ago
[17:43] <baggar11> I noticed the audio drift right away, but never really looked into it until now
[17:43] <baggar11> never had it on 10.10 though
[17:43] <baggar11> which I think I had running 0.24 mythtv
[22:35] <qwebirc46493> hello,  I'm new here and wanting to install mythbuntu on a dell gx280. but it doesn't seem to want to boot and install from the  dvd.


[04:01] <Takyoji> Anyone suggest a specific printer model or anything?
[04:01] <Takyoji> Of course I'm thinking of HP as of good support
[04:02] <tonyyarusso> I have a PSC 1310, but that's old
[07:16] <rlaager> Takyoji: I don't know what your needs are, but I'm happy with my HP Color LaserJet cp1518ni.
[07:17] <rlaager> Should you go that route, make sure to use the "HP Color LaserJet CP1510 Series Postscript (recommended)" driver.


[06:58] <jmereis> Would this be the right room to get help installing alonside Win10?
[06:58] <Noskcaj> jmereis, #xubuntu is
[06:58] <jmereis> Ah, alright thanks.
[09:13] <doko> hi
[09:13] <doko> is anybody here working on the GCC 5 related library transitions?
[09:14] <ochosi> hi doko, i think Noskcaj was working on that
[09:14] <ochosi> but from what i remember, there weren't many changes needed in xubuntu or xfce related pkgs
[09:17] <doko> ochosi, are you certain that you work in wily-proposed?
[09:19] <ochosi> doko: i guess we would have to ask Noskcaj, i really didn't follow that too closely because he mentioned we'll mostly be fine
[09:19] <ochosi> but i can investigate and get back to you on that
[09:20] <doko> that would be welcome
[09:20] <ochosi> bluesabre: quick sketch for an easy integration of panel-switch in the panel's config dialog. for now, i'd just add a single button based on whether panel-switch is there or not and that button would launch it: http://imgur.com/5u6qLOS
[09:20] <Noskcaj> The only xfce thing (notes-plugin) is already fixed, then we just have 3 or 4 libs, let me find them
[09:21] <ochosi> oh, speak of the devil :)
[09:23] <Noskcaj> qqwing (gnome-sudoku dep) is fixed in mentors, will need a rebuild of gnome-sudoku.
[09:25] <Noskcaj> libopenraw is ignored in debian, but it's only ubuntu package is tumbler, so we might have an easier time just moving away from it
[09:25] <doko> no need for any library transition?
[09:25] <doko> because there are at least some of the gnome mm packages missing
[09:26] <Noskcaj> qqwing is a library
[09:27] <Noskcaj> libopenraw is only by tumbler in ubuntu, but will need a transition if we don't move from it
[09:31] <Noskcaj> gtkmathview and libgtk2-perl are ftbfs for other reasons
[09:32] <Noskcaj> lyx has some weird aarch64 issue, and everything else is in other packagesets
[09:38] <Noskcaj> doko, Would you happen to have time to upload qqwing for me?
[09:50] <doko> Noskcaj, sure, can you give me a source package, test built in wily-proposed?
[09:55] <Noskcaj> doko, Could you upload it to debian, or do you want an ubuntu only one?
[09:57] <dkessel> ochosi: i will not be able to attend the meeting tomorrow
[10:04] <ochosi> dkessel: no worries, but thanks for letting me know!
[10:10] <doko> Noskcaj, both is fine
[10:10] <Noskcaj> http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/q/qqwing/qqwing_1.3.4-1.dsc
[10:14] <doko> Noskcaj, uploaded
[10:14] <Noskcaj> gnome-sudoku is the only r-dep, it's just some minor bugfixes (needed when we switch to gnome >=3.17) and the gcc5 lib change
[10:15] <doko> ohh, replaced Closes with Addresses, so it's not automatically closed
[10:24] <Noskcaj> ok, thanks
[22:10] <andrzejr> wxmaxima is a bit setting itself as a default application for application/zip etc.
[22:21] <ochosi> hey andrzejr
[22:25] <andrzejr> hi ochosi
[22:25] <andrzejr> how are you?
[22:27] <ochosi> good good
[22:28] <ochosi> a bit too busy to really code, but that's life :)
[22:28] <ochosi> how about you?
[22:31]  * knome blinks
[22:46] <knome> i just figured out what kind of input the QA tracker xmlrpc wants to give me the output i want
[22:46] <knome> so what do we want out of it?
[23:05] <krytarik> knome: There you go :) - http://paste.openstack.org/show/1U6G2gtJqOEcxhuL4Lyt/
[23:07] <Unit193> knome: There you go: http://paste.openstack.org/show/5KhCuR1s4j0RGIc5sav0/
[23:07] <knome> krytarik, so you can't view the documentation with a PDF reader now?
[23:07] <knome> :>
[23:07] <Unit193> krytarik: Why unwrap?
[23:07] <krytarik> knome: Hehe. :P
[23:07] <krytarik> Unit193: Because the list seems to be growing. :P
[23:08] <Unit193> krytarik: When it grows, that's when you wrap, not when you put it on one line...
[23:08] <krytarik> Well, hardly anyone else seems to be doing it too, so... :P
[23:09] <Unit193> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/inxi.git/tree/debian/control vs http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/thunar-dropbox-plugin.git/tree/debian/control
[23:11] <krytarik> And also, it looks kind of crappy to me. :D
[23:12] <Unit193> It's the standard, and really nice to not scroll.
[23:29] <krytarik> Sooo... :D - http://paste.openstack.org/show/MqvUKza6T5IN3p2iZsyU/
[23:31] <Unit193> :D
[23:32] <krytarik> Well, I agree with the readability bit, but it still looks weird. :P
[23:51] <knome> krytarik, Unit193: can you collaborate and make those both MP's, please?
[23:51] <knome> i don't know when i'll get to them, so to make sure they don't just vanish in my browser history...
[23:52]  * Unit193 sets the homepage to it.
[23:57] <knome> to both?
[23:57] <knome> no can do that.
[23:57] <knome> just get on with it and push to branches.
[23:57] <knome> i've been too good to you
[23:59] <Unit193> I didn't have anything, really.  Mine is supposed to be reviewed by a tech person. :P
[23:59] <knome> then push it to a branch and request a review from a tech person
[23:59] <knome> seriously.