[20:14] <ActionParsnip> monkey-d-luffy: http://pear.php.net/support/
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> monkey-d-luffy: the fact you have to ask shows that the support isn't easy to find. Why not use proper ubuntu and get the full support of the ubuntu community
[20:15] <monkey-d-luffy> thanks Dr_Willis ActionParsnip. is it okay if i ask question here since it's an ubuntu vairant?
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> not really.
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> monkey-d-luffy: no, none of the ubuntu based releases are supported here
[20:16] <monkey-d-luffy> okay.
[20:16] <monkey-d-luffy> thanks.
[20:16] <TheSarge> Dr_Willis: You have any ideas on my issue?
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> and last i looked.. pear was a little.. well weird. ;)
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> !backtrack | TheSarge
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> TheSarge: wjat issue?
[20:18] <TheSarge> wilee its Ubuntu not backtrack forget the ISo name
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> yeah right
[20:18] <tobe148> hello! can some one help me please. everytime i open a window or a prompt comes up, it is placed higher that my screen can see, or it is bigger that the screen
[20:18] <paperfale> I'm trying to compile/execute a basic cpp program on ubuntu 12.04 and it's not dislpaying any output with $g++ file.cpp
[20:18] <monkey-d-luffy> is there a way to install ubuntu software center from command line?
[20:18] <paperfale> No errors, no "hello world" nothing.
[20:18] <trism> paperfale: try: ./a.out
[20:18] <Deth> Hello!
[20:19] <mrdn> paperfale: why should it show something?
[20:19] <mrdn> it compiled. no error.
[20:19] <paperfale> hur dur.
[20:19] <Dr_Willis> ;) it worked as designed
[20:19] <paperfale> It's been a very very long time since I've messed with a system language, especially at the cli level.
[20:19] <paperfale> Damn IDE's getting me all spoiled and dumb.
[20:20] <paperfale> Thanks a bunch guys
[20:20] <paperfale> I'm glad I've decided to revisit this from the cli.
[20:20] <Dr_Willis> bbl.
[20:23] <Shogoot> soooo   my ubuntu machine does not show on my network from my win7. anyone that can help me troubleshoot?
[20:24] <bean> Shogoot: why should it show?
[20:24] <mnice> hello
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> Shogoot: can you ping the ubuntu system?
[20:24] <mnice> i don't have ubuntu .. would anyone just tell me, what package provides for an ubuntu dhcpcd-test ?
[20:24] <Shogoot> bean, because it has been showing fine for the last 4 weeks :) it has samba and was happy to serve my win7 as external hd :)
[20:25] <Shogoot> ActionParsnip, how can i do that from my win7?
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> mnice: check packages.ubuntu.com
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Shogoot: use cmd
[20:25] <mnice> ActionParsnip: don't you have something like yum provides $foo || zypper wp $foo ?
[20:26] <Shogoot> ActionParsnip, not pingable
[20:26] <mnice> so looking for *bin/dhcpcd-test
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> !find dhcpcd-test
[20:26] <mnice> !find dhcpcd
[20:26] <mnice> okay
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> Shogoot: can you ping it by IP?
[20:26] <mnice> fair enough
[20:26] <monkey-d-luffy> how to install ubuntu software center with apt-get?
[20:26] <Shogoot> Ping <IP_ADDRESS> med 32 byte data:
[20:26] <Shogoot> Forespørsel avbrutt.
[20:26] <Shogoot> Forespørsel avbrutt.
[20:26] <Shogoot> Forespørsel avbrutt.
[20:26] <Shogoot> Forespørsel avbrutt.
[20:26] <FloodBot1> Shogoot: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> monkey-d-luffy: your release isn't supported here
[20:27] <mnice> ActionParsnip: thanks dude
[20:27] <Shogoot> shite sorry
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> Shogoot: check the IP on the ubuntu system using ifconfig
[20:27] <monkey-d-luffy> ActionParsnip: I suppose the query I made is just as valid for any regular Ubuntu? The question isn't Pear-specific as far as I can see
[20:28] <Shogoot> ActionParsnip, ive done that and tried to ping that ip
[20:28] <Pessimist> If I #include <foobar> and use g++ to compile it Is this a good way: g++ filename.cpp -o test -l <directory to foobar>
[20:28] <vicium\a> Hi. I'm following a guide and I got an error that said it could not launch a .sh file, i was told to download lib32gcc1, I did so and then I'm getting this error (3 total lines including this, i dont think that's spam...)
[20:28] <vicium\a> victor@server:~/csgo$ STEAMEXE=steamcmd ./steam.sh
[20:28] <vicium\a> /home/victor/csgo/linux32/steamcmd: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open sha red object file: No such file or directory
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> monkey-d-luffy: you aren't using ubuntu so you aren't supported here in any way
[20:28] <mnice> don't use please ifconfig but ip instead
[20:28] <monkey-d-luffy> ActionParsnip: that is a very unpleasant response.  you might as well say you aren't welcome here. sheesh.
[20:29] <gribouille> hi
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> monkey-d-luffy: channel policy
[20:29] <n00bl0v3r> looks like a pretty busy channel... ofcourse, why will it not be!
[20:29] <auronandace> monkey-d-luffy: this channel can only support ubuntu
[20:29] <monkey-d-luffy> refrain from responding if you don't  want to help. not very hard.
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> mnice: system to be pinged is ubuntu, so we need ifconfig
[20:29] <bean> monkey-d-luffy: no, seriously, it's policy.
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> monkey-d-luffy: I am enforcing channel policy, its quite simple
[20:30] <bz> mnice: what's wrong with ifconfig?
[20:30] <gribouille> I updated the flash player from 10.3 to 11.2 (using the standard repos), and now when I watch a video on youtube, the colors are modified. what does it mean?
[20:30] <vicium\a> Let me know if anyone has a hunch, first 20 pages of google didnt cut it :p
[20:30] <Shogoot> ActionParsnip, ive done that and tried to ping that ip
[20:30] <monkey-d-luffy> forget i ever mentioned i am using some derivative. can i know how to install ubuntu software center from apt-get, if i am using THE ubuntu?
[20:30] <mnice> ActionParsnip: please check out for some article describing the difference between ip and ifconfig .. actually, ifconfig tries poorly now to emulate ip .. you have had to drop ifconfig years ago if you mean it seriously with linux
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> monkey-d-luffy: similarly, ubuntu is based on debian. If you ask for ubuntu support in #debian you will be pointed here
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> Shogoot: tried rebooting ubuntu?
[20:31] <xangua> gribouille: tried to turn off flash hardware acceleration¿ on any video content in Full Screen, right clic, properties
[20:31] <maheanuu> ActionParsnip,  I am having a problem mounting a drive that is pretty full, and is in the NTFS format,  It is telling me that mount exited with an exit code 13
[20:31] <bean> monkey-d-luffy:on ubuntu you would sudo apt-get install software-center
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> mnice: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1147550/   its not in a default install..
[20:32] <monkey-d-luffy> bean: thanks
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> maheanuu: what does exit code 13 mean?
[20:32] <mnice> ActionParsnip: yes, and that's still not reason to keep retarded if it is a default
[20:32] <Shogoot> ActionParsnip, yes sir
[20:32] <Edgan> TJ-: seems to be working out
[20:32] <bean> mnice: it's default, it's been replaced by the "ip" command, not ipconfig.
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> mnice: it guaruntees the command will work rather than getting errors and commands cannot be used, as they won't exist by default
[20:33] <maheanuu> It sayts that ntfs is incosistent  and they are telling me I need to run chkdsk on windows and reboot twice
[20:33] <vicium\a> "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open sha red object file: No such file or directory" any clue?
[20:33] <soman> Hi all. I'm going to left Windows and use Ubuntu. Can you write me what is the WinAPI analog in Linux? What I should to use if I want to write for example a GUI app which plays *.wav sound?
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> maheanuu: when did you last chkdsk the partition in Windows?
[20:33] <Shogoot> ActionParsnip, im going to reboot win7 aswell back in a few min
[20:33] <gribouille> xangua, seem to solve the problem, thanks
[20:34] <maheanuu> I don't have windows on any machine, and this is an external drive
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> vicium\a: what is causing the error?
[20:34] <guntbert> ActionParsnip: the command is ip, not ipconfig - you type   ip address show    in that case
[20:34] <bean> guntbert: i believe it's just ip addr
[20:34] <vicium\a> Opening a .sh file
[20:34] <mnice> or in short: ip a s ## possibly without show hence show is default action
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> guntbert: ip  just gives options on the command itself
[20:34] <Malthus> I have a question regarding add-apt-repository in quantal.  /usr/bin/add-apt-repository is missing in dev snapshot 2,  despite the relevant packages being installed by default.  Does this mean that the package is broken and I need to wait for it to be fixed?
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> vicium\a: do you mean a bash script?
[20:35] <Deth> Try ifconfig
[20:35] <vicium\a> yes :p
[20:35]  * n00bl0v3r  is sorry that he is asking this question but anyone can post any problem here?
[20:35] <Pessimist> ActionParsnip, actually it is ip addr show =)
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> vicium\a: file extensions don't mean much at all in Linux
[20:35] <maheanuu> ActionParsnip, The drive is an USB external one and was running fine until I unmounted it and stuck it on the shelf
[20:35] <trism> Malthus: #ubuntu+1 for quantal support, although I have it here on quantal
[20:35] <auronandace> n00bl0v3r: is it a ubuntu support question
[20:35] <OerHeks> n00bl0v3r, sure, as long it is ubuntu-related.
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> Pessimist: or use ifconfig, much easier imho
[20:36] <mnice> ActionParsnip: no, stop misleading ppl
[20:36] <mnice> oh god
[20:36] <Malthus> trism: roger I'll head there
[20:36] <maheanuu> ActionParsnip, what I need to know is can I run chkdsk on an external drive and do the reboot twice from the USB?
[20:36] <vicium\a> ActionParsnip: I believe it's using outdated libraries that's no longer in the repos
[20:36] <n00bl0v3r> auronandace, oops, just found the answer , thanks anyway! :)
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> vicium\a: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[20:36] <vicium\a> As far as I can understand from the reading
[20:36] <vicium\a> says natty
[20:36] <auronandace> !yay | n00bl0v3r
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> maheanuu: you'll need to do it under windows
[20:37] <Shogoot> ActionParsnip, seems a third reboot on both machines was the trick -.-
[20:37] <Darkened> can someone give me the IRC chat for Wine please
[20:37] <vicium\a> apt-get install ia32-libs-gtk, just did this, page 21 on google, maybe..
[20:37] <auronandace> Darkened: #winehq
[20:37] <mnice> Darkened: /msg alis list *wine*
[20:38] <vicium\a> Haha, well ActionParsnip: Problem solved.. Now its the bash script that's messed up I assume though, has nothign to do with ubuntu, right?
[20:38] <Darkened> auroandace, how exactly do I add it so I can go back without having to find it each time?
[20:38] <vicium\a> victor@server:~/csgo$ STEAMEXE=steamcmd ./steam.sh
[20:38] <vicium\a> Unable to determine CPU Frequency. Try defining CPU_MHZ.
[20:38] <bean> odd. I'm banned from #winejq.
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> vicium\a: what is the output of:  sudo updatedb; locate libstdc++*
[20:38] <bean> err #winehq
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> bean: I'd ask in #freenode
[20:38] <vicium\a> No output AP
[20:38] <auronandace> Darkened: i don't understand
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> vicium\a: its takes a while, have patience
[20:39] <mnice> auronandace: the name of the channel is #winehq
[20:39] <maheanuu> ActionParsnip,  I realize this, my nephew has windows and i would like to be able to use it on his puter as a USB drive and the only thing I am wondering about is the reboot twice part as an external drive will this be seen on the reboot in Windoze
[20:39] <OerHeks> Darkened, some IRC clients can hold bookmarks, like xchat
[20:39] <auronandace> mnice: i know, i just told him that
[20:39] <Darkened> auronandace, well everytime I load my IRC it has saved #ubuntu #smuxi how do I add wine to this list?
[20:39] <vicium\a> Well it prompted and gave me a new line instantly, but i'll sit tight :)
[20:40] <auronandace> Darkened: i don't know sorry
[20:40] <Fuchs> bean: I'd not IRC as root
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> vicium\a: sudo apt-get install libstdc++6
[20:40] <Fuchs> bean: they got that ident banned, and I think it's a very bad idea as well
[20:40] <vicium\a> Did that previously
[20:40] <OerHeks> Darkened, edit your login, #ubuntu,#smuxi,#winehq
[20:40] <bean> Fuchs: meh, this server is a honeypot, I'm *trying* to get people to scan it.
[20:40] <maheanuu> ActionParsnip,  I can do a paste if you would like to read the complete error code information
[20:40] <vicium\a> Maybe you missed the line i said previously, i solved the package problem or whatever one would like to call it now I got another 'new' error "Unable to determine CPU Frequency. Try defining CPU_MHZ."
[20:41] <Fuchs> bean: then at least change the ident, else you won't get into #winehq
[20:41] <mnice> oh god .. to be honest i entered before while and i can't quit staring .. it's like when you see through window your neighbour f***ing with dog :P
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> vicium\a: ok then you can run:  sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5
[20:41] <vicium\a> I googled some and found that one person solved it with 'mount -t linprocfs linproc /compat/linux/proc'
[20:41] <vicium\a> ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5': File exists
[20:41] <auronandace> !who | vicium\a
[20:41] <vicium\a> auronandace: I figured so but I also know some people get very annoyed when they get highlighted :P
[20:42] <auronandace> vicium\a: not if you are talking to them, that is the whole point of highlighting
[20:42] <mnice> vicium\a: don't symlink but rather find what provides a library you need
[20:43] <vicium\a> I found what I needed (in terms of libraries) i think now, my newly generated problem after obtaining the correct libs seems diferent entirely though
[20:43] <Pessimist> vicium\a, what are you trying to run?
[20:43] <mnice> Pessimist: skype
[20:43] <mnice> :D
[20:44] <vicium\a> A bash script that updates and installs a server-manager, not skype :p
[20:44] <mnice> sorry
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> mnice: you do know that natty support expires in October....?
[20:44] <vicium\a> Unable to determine CPU Frequency. Try defining CPU_MHZ. is my new problem, it seems some users have gotten it when running a Virtual Box, but I have a VPS, so not the same entirely?
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> vicium\a: you do know that natty support expires in October....?
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> mnice: sorry, wrong target
[20:44] <mnice> ActionParsnip: sorry, i don't know much about ubuntu
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> mnice: np :)
[20:45] <mnice> np
[20:45] <vicium\a> ActionParsnip: I did not, hopefully the host company updates or something
[20:45] <vicium\a> I'm not very.. proficient
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> vicium\a: a clean install or Precise will solve a lot of things :)
[20:46] <vicium\a> Welcome to Ubuntu 11.04 (GNU/Linux 2.6.32-042stab059.7 x86_64)
[20:46] <Pessimist> !ping
[20:46] <vicium\a> I don't think there's a more recent version avaiable that supports VPS's though, I'm not sure.. The openVZ is running CentOS 5
[20:47] <vicium\a> And they strongly discouraged upgrading
[20:47] <auronandace> vicium\a: even 10.04 is supported longer than 11.04
[20:47] <auronandace> !lts | vicium\a
[20:48] <vicium\a> Well since it's a VPS i can't decide :(
[20:48] <vicium\a> Only whats available in the drop-down list :P
[20:48] <sloebs> #drupal
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> vicium\a: I suggest you inform them, you could upgrade it to Oneiric and then to Precise.
[20:57] <ejv> i totally read that as lts victim... lol
[20:57] <ejv> oh god ubuntu strikes again! :D
[21:01] <Orange_> hello?
[21:02] <IV-XX> Hi
[21:02] <Orange_> I am new to this
[21:02] <Orange_> what do we do here?
[21:02] <xangua> ubuntu support Orange_
[21:02] <Tav_Van> We discuss and help solve problems related to ubuntu
[21:02] <arcaran> talk about ubuntu
[21:02] <IV-XX> To irc or Ubuntu
[21:03] <Orange_> oh i understand
[21:03] <ejv> Orange_: type /topic
[21:04] <IV-XX> orange are you new to I r c or to Ubuntu
[21:04] <mnice> or to *internet
[21:04] <mnice> or to *computers at all ?
[21:05] <yoophglup> what is ubuntu one ?
[21:06] <ejv> yoophglup: https://one.ubuntu.com/about/
[21:06] <ejv> god my google foo is ON FIRE today :D
[21:06] <Shogoot> oh god. any easy way to purge all files and settings from this nomachine nx program?
[21:07] <iceroot> Shogoot: sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[21:07] <ejv> rm -rf ~/.nx
[21:07] <suhaib> yoophglup, its just like iCloud for apple users
[21:07] <Orange_> both actually
[21:08] <suhaib> iceroot, so what is the purpose of the --purge ? isnt the sudo apt-get remove enough ?
[21:08] <iceroot> suhaib: no
[21:08] <IV-XX> Ubuntu one is a backup solution
[21:08] <iceroot> suhaib: --purge is also removing "conffiles"
[21:08] <Shogoot> iceroot, i get a error telling me that virtual packaes as nxserver can't be removed
[21:08] <suhaib> iceroot, Ahhh KK!!
[21:08] <iceroot> suhaib: but "conffiles" are not only foo.conf  nits a debian technic
[21:08] <yoophglup> thanks ejv, and suhaib.
[21:09] <iceroot> Shogoot: exact command and excat error message please
[21:09] <iceroot> !paste | Shogoot
[21:13] <arcaran> "out of topic" but does anyone know a good irc for vmware and/or virtualization?
[21:14] <Siegel-> hello, i have ubuntu 12.04. i recently upgraded my dsl connection from 5MB download speed to 15 MB, yet there has been little change in the speed of streaming videos/regular surfing. could there be an ubuntu restriction that can be removed?
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> Siegel-, you probably are throttled
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> Siegel-, have you run a speed check
[21:15] <Siegel-> wilee-nilee: im not quite sure as to what that means. and how can i go about changing that?
[21:15] <fitnerd> does anyone know a way to recreate all system users created by dpkg postinst?
[21:15] <Siegel-> wilee-nilee: yes through two websites and they do indeed indicate 15 mb
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> Siegel-, throttling would be by the provider
[21:16] <Siegel-> wilee-nilee: ok. what does that mean? how can i explain that to them?
[21:16] <mnice> fitnerd: no way .. the user creation is triggered by several packages
[21:16] <iceroot> arcaran: #vmware
[21:16] <iceroot> !alis | arcaran
[21:17] <wilee-nilee> Siegel-, they will limit te=he speed of downloads, and I doubt they will change that, kit is for everybody having a smooth internet connection in theory
[21:17] <mnice> and there's no way to re-run the scripts .. you need to find out what packages create uswers and then --reconfigure
[21:17] <Siegel-> wilee-nilee: they said, when i upgraded that i now belong to a "private" network only for high speed users. yet there has been little to no change. this pisses me off as i pay much more for this
[21:17] <wilee-nilee> the*
[21:17] <mnice> but that's rather dumb method
[21:17] <arcaran> thanks
[21:17] <MonkeyDust> !virtual > arcaran
[21:17] <Siegel-> wilee-nilee: read what i said about private network. so do you suggest just switching back to 5mb? cause its really the same but this costs a lot m ore
[21:17] <fitnerd> mnice: yes, I have been able to grep /var/lib/dpkg/info/*postinst and find they are all added by calls to adducer.. just want to recreate them and the grep is a little lacking
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> Siegel-, I don't know what your provider provides it would not hurt to ask them they know what throttling is, not sure if this is a admitted practice though.
[21:18] <mnice> fitnerd: dpkg --reconfigure is the only way i'd realize .. but i might lack the knowledge so verify
[21:19] <Siegel-> wilee-nilee: i see. it just really pisses me off. i cant freaking stream anything properly. its annoying. do you think this has anything to do with an ubuntu related restriction though/
[21:20] <Siegel-> wilee-nilee: also i would not know what throttling would be called in hebrew
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> Siegel-, I would not know for sure if OS related, but if you get a 15MIB with a test it seems to be fine.
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> Siegel-, not a clue. ;)
[21:21] <Siegel-> wilee-nilee: shouldnt that be sufficient to at least stream without interruption? i mean, 15mb is not slow
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> Siegel-, Streaming and downloads as they are a steady draw are throttled is my understanding.
[21:22] <Siegel-> wilee-nilee: do you think it might have to do with my computer being old? even though it works better than most newer computers ive come across. it doesnt lag, its fast, it boots super fast etc
[21:22] <Siegel-> wilee-nilee: thats the only reason i got the faster connection. seems to be futile.
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> Siegel-, not sure really, you get 15MIB with a test what do you think? That is a short stream, not a steady one.
[21:23] <p3rtutt1> compiling ubuntu to our own machine is worthy?
[21:23] <Siegel-> what do you mean by short?
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> Siegel-, short in that it is a test not a running stream.
[21:24] <Siegel-> i see
[21:24] <Siegel-> how can i check it then? for streaming
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> Siegel-, I don't know to be honest, I would look on the web.
[21:25] <Siegel-> im searching
[21:27] <Siegel-> wilee-nilee: ok im reading threads that mention that it isnt my ethernet speed that is getting in the way, it is my connection to the ISP. but im not sure what that is
[21:27] <wilee-nilee> Siegel-, I doubt that,
[21:28] <Siegel-> i dont really know what that means
[21:28] <Siegel-> i went on this bandwith meter and it said
[21:29] <Siegel-> 7658 kbps
[21:29] <Siegel-> is that good or bad?
[21:29] <Siegel-> wilee-nilee:  have a look at this: http://reviews.cnet.com/internet-speed-test/?result=7658
[21:30] <djzn> trism: howdy!
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: do you have 8Mb broadband?
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> Siegel-, your google foo is week look here. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=check+throttling&btnG=&gbv=1&sei=XsIqUKakPKHpigKbvoCYDA
[21:30] <Siegel-> ActionParsnip: lmao im supposed to have 15mb! thats whats getting on my nerves
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> weak*
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: try running:  gksudo gedit /etc/sysctrl.conf; gksudo sysctl -p
[21:31] <Siegel-> wilee-nilee: ok im runnign a test
[21:31] <trism> djzn: hello
[21:31] <Siegel-> ActionParsnip: ok hold on. what is that supposed to do?
[21:31] <yoophglup> 15 Mbs is megabits, divide by 8 and its 1.87Mega Byte or about 1800 - 1900 KBs
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: add these lines: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1147654/
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: add the lines in the pastebin to the files (without the line numbers obviously)
[21:32] <Siegel-> ActionParsnip: what should i do first? the lines in the link or the line you wrote on here?
[21:32] <Siegel-> what files?
[21:32] <djzn> trism: did you read my last msg about CentOS
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: in the order I gave them, obviouslty
[21:32] <trism> djzn: I did notice that, were any xorg packages updated?
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: I'm not in the habit of mixing commands line orders that things need to be ran....
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> Siegel-, it looks like M-Lab is a testing source, they do the testing and provide info, and you can run your own. THis is not rocket science, the IP is throtling you they all do it to some extent to keep traffic from from over running the ability of the system.
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> !away > HardFu
[21:33] <Siegel-> ActionParsnip: ok this opened up two files. in which one should i add the lines from the pastebin?
[21:33] <djzn> trism: that was the mistery, none of the xorg packages were updated....
[21:34] <Siegel-> wilee-nilee: i see. but this is outrageous since its so slow for so much money
[21:34] <trism> djzn: do you have a list of what was?
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: it will only open /etc/sysctl.conf   that's the file to edit..
[21:34] <djzn> trism: the only gnome package was gnome-power-manager
[21:34] <Joel-re> hey would it be fine to install a sun-java6 package from 'oneric/natty' into 'precise'
[21:34] <Joel-re> ?
[21:34] <djzn> trism: it may really look as a permission issue....
[21:35] <djzn> trism: i don't have that list on me right now
[21:35] <Joel-re> cant seem to locate a sun-java6-jdk package for 'precise'
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> Joel-re: why not try the java ppa/
[21:35] <Siegel-> ActionParsnip: oh right the other one was just "untitled" ActionParsnip alright. so i add the lines and then click "save"?
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> Siegel-, I believe you can get non throttled service, but you have to specify that and find the providers, a regular IP may or may not do this I suspect.
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: add the lines in the pastebin to /etc/sysctl.conf  and close it, it will then apply and may help
[21:35] <Joel-re> ActionParsnip: ubuntu seems to have gotten rid of sun java?
[21:35] <djzn> Joel-re, there isn't any 'sun' anymore
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> !away > RiXtEr
[21:36] <Joel-re> djzn: yeah
[21:36] <Siegel-> wilee-nilee: i see, but why dont they tell me my internet connection will be the same fucking speed as before while they charge me double
[21:36] <Siegel-> ActionParsnip: i see. i did that. do i need to reboot?
[21:36] <Joel-re> djzn: but I should be able to install the package for oneric/natty?
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> Joel-re: its oracle java, the license changed so it had to be removed
[21:36] <Joel-re> onto precise
[21:36] <djzn> Joel-re, you'll need to run the oracle installer or find a repo that backported it
[21:36] <Joel-re> ActionParsnip: yes, I have an app that depends on it
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: no, it should apply straight away. Have you tried www.speedtest.net
[21:36] <wilee-nilee> Siegel-, you have heard of the open free market I assume.
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: I get http://www.speedtest.net/result/2119906306.png
[21:36] <trism> djzn: I'm not sure how it could but, I wrote a program that will immediately update the cursor and runs as my current user (still broken if you try to resize again, but another run will fix it)
[21:36] <Siegel-> ActionParsnip: yep it always shows up alright on there, yet you saw the results on my bandwidth
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> Joel-re: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[21:37] <djzn> trism: i am gonna get that list of updates so that you can look at
[21:37] <trism> djzn: excellent, thanks
[21:37] <Joel-re> ActionParsnip: thanks, will look
[21:37] <Siegel-> ActionParsnip: should i just try to stream what i was trying to stream before? to see if it made a difference?
[21:37] <phoenixia> Oh yeah -_-' ...
[21:37] <kingofswords> hi ..i have a large black bar at bottom of my desktop any1 have any idea why?
[21:37] <C-S-B> I've just replaced a failed disk in my arrary, I created a partition and set to linux raid autodetect, however I added /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda1 to the /dev/md127 is this going to be a problem? It seems to be rebuilding ok
[21:38] <phoenixia> mm ... Hello ?
[21:38] <phoenixia> Is there any linuxian who speak french here ?
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: sure, it will allot more RAM to the networking, can help speed up the network
[21:38] <phoenixia> please :x
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> !fr
[21:38] <phoenixia> Oh, thank you very much ^^'
[21:38] <Joel-re> ActionParsnip: should this work - http://ddmytrenko.blogspot.in/2012/02/installing-sun-java-6-jdk-on-debian.html
[21:39] <trism> djzn: this is the code, for reference ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/1147672/ ), I can use the very same code to break cursor resizing in fedora
[21:39] <phoenixia> bye
[21:40] <djzn> trism: ok, i will take a look
[21:40] <OerHeks> Joel-re, should work on debian, not on ubuntu, and be carefull with aptitude, when you run 64 bit ubuntu.
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> Joel-re: it will break your OS, debian and ubuntu packages are not to be mixed
[21:40] <Joel-re> ok
[21:40] <Joel-re> hrm
[21:41] <Joel-re> im stuck
[21:41] <Siegel-> ActionParsnip: its gone up to 11953 from 7000+ so i guess it helped a bit
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> Joel-re: the PPA I gave will install oracle java for you and java will work
[21:42] <Siegel-> ActionParsnip: it should still be around 14000 though
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: try www.speedtest.net
[21:42] <Siegel-> ActionParsnip: im doing that right now
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: your connection is contended, try different times of the day
[21:43] <Siegel-> ActionParsnip: fuck i only got 4.56 now!!! im calling my provider!!
[21:43] <yoophglup> DSL max speeds depend on how far away from their central office or remote terminal, they will sell you any package you order but physical location will limit what you can actually have.
[21:43] <Arachnophobia> I have a wifi problem. My ubuntu somehow thinks I have like 25 network controlers (with each being the same). Is there a way to reset it somehow. Restarting doesnt solve it the problem
[21:43] <Siegel-> yoophglup: its not farther than like 80km, couldnt be
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: try super late at night, see how fast it goes then
[21:44] <yoophglup> probably not then.
[21:44] <Siegel-> ActionParsnip: ok, its 12:44 now.
[21:44] <n00bl0v3r> ActionParsnip,  I am a bit lost with the irc... hope you don't mind me asking the list of channels that I see, are those channels listed in dns of only freenode or is it the list of all the channels available on every network... (sorry for being dumb and all) ?
[21:44] <IdleOne> Siegel-: please stop cursing.
[21:44] <Siegel-> IdleOne: sorry!
[21:44] <zykotick9> Arachnophobia: you have wlan0 -> wlan24 really?
[21:44] <Phiscribe> n00bl0v3r freenode
[21:44] <Siegel-> youre right
[21:45] <Siegel-> ActionParsnip: just ran the test again and this time it as 8MB
[21:45] <n00bl0v3r> so there are other networks like freenode , Phiscribe?
[21:45] <n00bl0v3r> like i was reading about efnet...
[21:45] <zykotick9> n00bl0v3r: oftc
[21:45] <Arachnophobia> zyko: I ran lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net in terminal and it shows me a looooooong list of things with them being the same except for an ethernet
[21:46] <n00bl0v3r> zykotick9, any hints on how I can connect to those?
[21:46] <zykotick9> Arachnophobia: tab fail ;)  what does "ifconfig" show
[21:47] <zykotick9> n00bl0v3r: off the top of my head - sorry i don't... i set it up once in my irssi config, and don't have to worry about it again
[21:47] <Arachnophobia> eth1, lo and rename34
[21:48] <bobweaver> n00bl0v3r,  I think that it is /server <name of server> port  I could be wrong thou I think that /connect also works
[21:48] <Phiscribe> http://irc.netsplit.de/networks/top100.php
[21:48] <bobweaver> n00bl0v3r,  best to ask on the cahnnel #freenode
[21:48] <n00bl0v3r> zykotick9 : oh  alright I'll try something - I'll get the hang of it soon, hopefully!
[21:48] <zykotick9> Arachnophobia: there is someway (but i don't know it), to reset udev to re-enumerate stuff... but sorry i've once done it a couple times to rename eth1 back to eth0... but don't know the steps off hand
[21:49] <tigerauge> hi
[21:49] <n00bl0v3r> bobweaver : I tried that, connecting through the server command, but it always gives me unidentified nick or something like that... do I need to register my nick or somethig?
[21:50] <bobweaver> n00bl0v3r,  /join #freenode ask there
[21:50] <n00bl0v3r> bobweaver, that would be better , I'll do that! thanks!
[21:50] <_skpl> hi my computer is using the inteol i915 graphics accelerator but unity 2d is very slow, does anyone know why?
[21:51] <tigerauge> i `ve got a problem: how to install java in xubuntu 11.10?
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> tigerauge: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> _skpl: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[21:52] <_skpl> ActionParsnip, precise.
[21:53] <tigerauge> ok... i `ll try
[21:53] <joubin> can someone help me with some wifi/iptable issues?
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> _skpl: are you fully updated?
[21:53] <_skpl> ActionParsnip, YES
[21:53] <_skpl> ActionParsnip, well, let me check again
[21:54] <joubin> I wanna create a wifi hotspot and share it internet on ubuntu. However this is a headless unit. thanks
[21:55] <_skpl> ActionParsnip, not fully updateed, updating now
[21:58] <tigerauge> ActionParsnip: i love ubuntu, with an old computer... but nothing works, chat or youtube or anything :-(
[21:59] <tigerauge> <---- ex-windows-user..... learning by doing :-)
[21:59]  * TJ- congratulates tigerauge
[22:01] <tigerauge> TJ: it`s to easy, i think *g
[22:01] <flashmx> saludos
[22:02] <sfjgk> TJ-: earliers gcc fun, what was the way you described the problem? (/me is writing up a page on getting the tools working for the other users at the uni)
[22:04] <brontosaurusrex> well, slim didnt let me in anymore
[22:04] <brontosaurusrex> hardcore stuff
[22:05] <brontosaurusrex> ups, wrong channel, please continue :X
[22:06] <snow__> Hi Jaac
[22:06] <Blue1> snow__: don't see that on an airplane
[22:06] <Blue1> s/see/say/
[22:06] <stivan> hi boys :)) anyone to say me good program to record my desktop session (video). i used ubuntu 11.04
[22:07] <Blue1> stivan: http://pkill-9.com/recordingcapturing-your-desktop-in-ubuntudebian/
[22:07] <TJ-> sfjgk: I had a link for you
[22:08] <tigerauge> i have to try later - i hope that system update is working ...
[22:08] <TJ-> sfjgk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/ReleaseNotes#GCC_4.6_Toolchain  and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ToolchainTransition
[22:09] <stivan> many tnx Blue1 :)
[22:09] <Blue1> stivan: welcom
[22:09] <snow__> Annotating program for pdf files is required pls help
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> I thought inkscape could edit pdfs
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> a little old post but possibley some good info --> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/list-of-pdf-editing-tools-for-ubuntu.html
[22:11] <tigerauge> do i need adobe flashplayer in unbuntu? questions over questions...  sorry
[22:11] <flashmx> algun latino
[22:11] <flashmx> que hable español
[22:11] <zykotick9> !es | flashmx
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> tigerauge:  I get along with out flashplayer. :) I use a flashreplacer plugin, or just download and watch the flash videos with some extensions
[22:11] <Phiscribe> snow__ try evince or okular maybe
[22:11] <OerHeks> tigerauge, no, you can enable html5 for watching youtube
[22:11] <sfjgk> ahhh cheers TJ-! I'm slowly documenting my progress at http://www.privmsg.me.uk/2012/08/playing-with-openbeacon/114/
[22:12] <flashmx> ok
[22:12] <flashmx> tan,
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/162037/how-to-edit-pdfs-in-ubuntu  more up to date
[22:12] <snow__> thanks
[22:13] <tigerauge> Dr_Willis: i can`t play any music or video.... shit, i have no plan yet
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> tigerauge:  i play music and videos in  vlc or other players.. Unlkess you are refering to Online flash videos and muzak.
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> I use one of the many flash downloader tools to download flash vidoes that i want to watch, then watch them in vlc.
[22:14] <Phiscribe> annotating isnt excactly editing
[22:14] <Phiscribe> oh he is gone nm
[22:15] <TJ-> sfjgk: That looks great; keep at it!
[22:16] <felicity> i just installed CMus (command-line music player) in 12.04.  why does it ask me to configure DECnet?
[22:16] <tigerauge> OerHeks: how to do? .. Dr_Willis: i`m first updating ubuntu...  normally i use youtube or dmax videos... i getting crazy, so much to learn
[22:16] <loganrun> does ubuntu support raid during install?
[22:17] <OerHeks> tigerauge, www.youtube.com/html5
[22:17] <SteveLim> tigerauge: the terminal based program youtube-dl is very convenient... just plug in the URL of the youtube vid, you can watch in VLC while or after it downloads
[22:17] <tigerauge> Dr_Willis: gmusicbrowser is missing a plugin.-... don know what or which
[22:17] <tigerauge> OerHeks: ah, ok...
[22:17] <SteveLim> tigerauge: youtube-dl is in the repositories
[22:18] <Siegel-> ActionParsnip: ok i called customer service my connection is okay. the guy i spoke to uses ubuntu as well and he said that i may have a problem with my flash. the version of it and its quality settings that may be slowing the streaming down
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: can't you just use vlc as a flash plugin to play flash vids?
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  been doing that exact thing with a 'flashvideoreplacer' plugin. but it seems its been removed from the firefox extensions page at the request of the author.
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> https://github.com/webgapps/flvideoreplacer
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: I tend to use minitube
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> I use that flvideoreplacer in linux and windows. :)
[22:18] <TJ-> loganrun: The alternate install and server ISO images do, but I don't think the liveCD does (unless things have changed recently)
[22:19] <loganrun> TJ: what is the alternate install?
[22:19] <Jordan_U> !alternate | loganrun
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> 'flash and problems'  are 2 words normally used in the same sentance... sadly.
[22:20] <loganrun> o.k. I'll have to try that, I am getting sick of HD crashes, takes too long to recover
[22:20] <SteveLim> ... not mention flash cookies... no flash, no flash cookies\
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: try downloading the ubuntu ISO using wget
[22:21] <Siegel-> ActionParsnip: how do i do that?
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: wget http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/20120612/quantal-dvd-i386.iso     should be an ok speed gague
[22:22] <Shinobi> what is the svn feature that lets you split an entry into two separate ones that will then be maintained separately.
[22:22] <Shinobi> fork or branch??
[22:22] <Siegel-> ActionParsnip: i clicked on the link and a download window came up. should i just download it? its the .iso file
[22:22] <loganrun> how does ubuntu server differ from ubuntu
[22:22] <tigerauge> Dr_Willis: the way from "click" user from window to self thinking linux user is hard :-)) there are so many ways... i want to hear music :-(
[22:22] <danielboston26> hello
[22:22] <loganrun> desktop
[22:22] <danielboston26> loganrun do you need a server?
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: its not a link, its a command
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: just because you see a link, don't click it, resist
[22:23] <Siegel-> ActionParsnip: ok well its downloading an iso file. gonna take a while.
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> tigerauge:  theres dozens of music player apps in the repos... or are you refering to a web stream?
[22:23] <danielboston26> loganrun ubuntu server comes with server related stuff like lamp file server mail server dns server
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: yes but what speed are you getting??
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: thats the WHOLE point here..
[22:23] <loganrun> danielboston26, o.k.
[22:23] <jrib> loganrun: server version lacks X and related programs
[22:23] <Siegel-> ActionParsnip: im getting 15mb
[22:24] <Siegel-> using the networks speed test
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: there you go then, you said you have a 16Mb link...
[22:24] <Jordan_U> Siegel-: Where are you seeing problems with network speed?
[22:25] <Siegel-> ActionParsnip: oh you mean the speed im getting on the download of this. its around 1mb/s
[22:25] <Siegel-> Jordan_U: in streaming especially, its just no diff from the 5mb connection i had before
[22:25] <Jordan_U> Siegel-: From what websites?
[22:25] <Siegel-> ActionParsnip: i guess thats the problem. why is it dling so slowly?
[22:25] <Siegel-> Jordan_U: several. all except for youtube pretty much
[22:26] <tigerauge> Dr_Willis: iv `e only "eplus in the forest", internet prepaid stick, without umts... no streams, do not work ^^ but no player from xubuntu plays any music in the moment, plugin probem
[22:26] <alexxxxx> I managed to make virtual wireless hotspot (from Win7). 2 of my Androids can connect it, but my Fujitsu Siemens (Amilo La 1703) can't even detect it. Fujitsu detects wireless from router, but can't detect wireless from virtual hotspot. Why?
[22:26] <Siegel-> Jordan_U: im aware it can be website dependent rather than connection. but im dling a file now and the download speed is like 1mb/s
[22:26] <tigerauge> i`ve got...
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: then thats about right, you have a 16 megabits connection, divide by 8 should pull down about 1.6Mb/s so its near enough
[22:26] <Jordan_U> Siegel-: Can you give an example of one major one? Youtube is a good test because you know if there is an issue with bandwith it's not on their end, and Youtube is working for you.
[22:26] <Siegel-> ActionParsnip: oooh i see
[22:27] <Siegel-> Jordan_U: say vidbux, gorillavid, movreel etc
[22:27] <Siegel-> putlocker and shareshock work for me, youtube never buffers pretty much
[22:27] <Siegel-> ActionParsnip: so this file im dling. what is it supposed to do?
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: near enough
[22:28] <Jordan_U> Siegel-: I've never heard of those. Are you sure that they're big/reputable enough that it wouldn't be a problem on their end?
[22:28] <Siegel-> Jordan_U: i suppose it is a problem on their end i guess
[22:29] <tigerauge> Dr_Willis: my favorite internet chat radios didn`t work with vlc, i used winamp with windows before... i`ll see waht happens after updating, in 10 hours ^
[22:29] <Siegel-> ActionParsnip: is this file supposed to fix the flash?
[22:29] <zykotick9> Siegel-: "fix the flash" funny...
[22:30] <gzy> hi, anyone familiar with the ati/hdmi overscan issue?
[22:30] <n00bl0v3r> who
[22:30] <n00bl0v3r> is responsible for
[22:30] <Siegel-> zykotick9: you know, if i didnt have such "funny" comments, i probably wouldnt be asking for your help. probably because im rather clueless
[22:30] <n00bl0v3r> oops sorry! my bad!
[22:31] <pc> Ok, does ubuntu disable wireless when you plugi n wired?
[22:31] <Siegel-> people specialize in different things in life, thats what makes the world go round
[22:31] <faryshta> hi. how can I record video using a webcam?
[22:31] <extrasolar> pc you cannot use both
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> pc:  Both stay on here, but it mnay default to the wired network for the default route.
[22:31] <extrasolar> by default
[22:31] <pc> I want to use both (wired does not have a g/w defined)
[22:31] <monkers> you can use both in that manner
[22:31] <pc> I'm trying to "hop" networks so to speak
[22:32] <monkers> ubuntu is shutting one off?
[22:32] <pc> It seems to kick me off the wireless the moment the wired is plugged.
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> faryshta: doesn't cheese do that?
[22:32] <faryshta> hi. how can I record video using a webcam?
[22:32] <pc> I don't know to be honest, trying to walk someone thru this remotely who knows zero about linux, unfortuantely.
[22:32] <faryshta> ActionParsnip: let me check
[22:32] <ero-jiji> Jordan_U are you around?
[22:33] <monkers> PC - hrmmmm ... is there some event or error in a log somewhere maybe?  one interface should not make another go down, even if there is overlapping routing or whatnot.
[22:33] <konradb> hi, I have problem with wine. http://www.wklej.org/id/811182/  how to resolve it?
[22:33] <Jordan_U> Siegel-: ActionParsnip wanted you to try using wget to download a a large file from a known fast server, (I would argue that cdimage.ubuntu.com was a bad choice in that respect) so he chose an Ubuntu iso. The file itself isn't important.
[22:33] <Jordan_U> ero-jiji: Yes.
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: I guess
[22:33] <zykotick9> monkers: i believe plugging in wired typically disables wireless...
[22:33] <Siegel-> Jordan_U: so should i abort it? i understand. just to check the download speed
[22:34] <ero-jiji> Jordan_U running the fscheck fixed the issue, its showing the full 3.3TB now ^^
[22:34] <moveer-envigado> i can't play any videos in youtube
[22:34] <ero-jiji> Jordan_U i appriciate all your help yesterday
[22:34] <Siegel-> ok one final question. im using gnome shell on ubuntu 12.04 and when i delete things they go somewhere. where is the trash bin here? how do i empty it?
[22:34] <zykotick9> moveer-envigado: youtube.com/html5 to use html5 (instead of flash which you need to install otherwise)
[22:35] <Jordan_U> ero-jiji: Nice. Did you happen to save the output from fsck? (if not, it's not important.  Try /var/log/fsck/checkfs .
[22:39] <OerHeks> moveer-envigado, did you install any hardware driver for your videocard ?
[22:39] <pc> monkers:  - You could not "delete" a gateway assigned to an IP address in the gui thing.  However if he deleted the IP, and re-added the IP without a gateway, it worked ok.
[22:39] <pc> So, in essence, it had a g/w defined.
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. I cant seem to find a video at youtube that plays in the html5 mode..  they are all wanting to use flash here. Even the 'how to watch html5 video in ubuntu' video. ;)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2UxTqbMHaY
[22:40] <moveer-envigado> not, i think it install it alone
[22:40] <OerHeks> that one works fine her, Dr_Willis
[22:40] <ero-jiji> Jordan_U theres a checkfs and checkroot doc there, but both are empty
[22:40] <bobweaver> Dr_Willis,  just add &webm=1 at the end of any video I thought
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> OerHeks:  could be somthing odd here in 12.10 ff and chrome are both playing that video in Flash.
[22:41] <beans> .....
[22:42] <moveer-envigado> or maybe there's something wrong with the flash player version!
[22:42] <Dr_Willis> Hmm even doing the &webm=1 i right click on the video and the menu  still says 'about flash player' at the bottom
[22:42] <bobweaver> up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2UxTqbMHaY&webm=1 works ok with out flash
[22:42] <moveer-envigado> i tried to install manually the 11.2 version
[22:42] <moveer-envigado> and it does not change anything
[22:42] <ero-jiji> Jordan_U anywho, im off for the day, thanks again for the help
[22:42] <Salman> Can someone help with sound problems?
[22:42] <bobweaver> Dr_Willis,  http://www.youtube.com/html5
[22:43] <OerHeks> moveer-envigado, restart your browser after install.
[22:43] <bobweaver> Dr_Willis,  do you get the 3 green check boxs ?
[22:43] <cchong_w_hung> Hello Marc Dorsa
[22:43] <W4sp> Salman: Hey...
[22:43] <Dr_Willis> bobweaver:  yes.. its checked.. all 3 are green in chromium, just 2 in firefox.
[22:44] <Salman> W4sp: Find anything? Or should i just switch to windows
[22:44] <Dr_Willis> bobweaver:  i play that video. right click on it.. it says  about flash player... so.. it MAY be a 12.10 issue. Im testing it out now. :)   will ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:44] <bobweaver> Dr_Willis,  i wil join also I am on 12.10
[22:44] <harushimo> when installing drupal on ubuntu, where is the default.settings.php file at?
[22:45] <suhaib> Salman, Yes ! let me see If I can help
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: sudo updatedb; locate setting | grep php
[22:45] <harushimo> okay
[22:46] <suhaib> Salman, What is your question ?
[22:46] <W4sp> Salman: I noticed you pinged me yesterday or the day before. I responded. But too late, you were on your hit-and-run warpath. ;-)
[22:46] <harushimo> is the file name settings.php?
[22:46] <extrasolar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Drupal
[22:46] <Salman> W4sp: lol. I tried oss audio but it didn;t work. how can i remove it?
[22:47] <harushimo> i did all this
[22:47] <extrasolar> sudo apt-get remove <package>
[22:47] <harushimo> thank you
[22:47] <Dr_Willis> Salman:  what did you try exactly?
[22:47] <harushimo> I know it where it is now
[22:47] <W4sp> Salman: I think you are in better hands with suhaib . He addressed a question to you.
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: my command will search the entire file system for the file
[22:48] <Salman> Dr_willis: OSS audio to use my soundcard. it didn't work
[22:48] <harushimo> ok
[22:48] <Salman> suhaib: Sound Problems
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> Salman:  what was the exact package name?
[22:49] <harushimo> got it
[22:49] <bunjee> ne know alot about thunderbird mail?
[22:49] <Salman> Dr_Willis:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound/ i followed this
[22:49] <harushimo> my drupal directory got installed on etc
[22:49] <DrGrov> Evening y'all
[22:50] <suhaib> Salman, You can;t hear anything or what ?
[22:50] <Salman> suhaib: can't hear anything
[22:50] <DrGrov> I gotta wonder... I am using Ubuntu Tweak on my 10.04 Ubuntu and got this Gnome 3 PPA there. Is it safe to install Gnome 3 on 10.04 or could it cause breakages?
[22:50] <extrasolar> Best you try
[22:50] <extrasolar> you can always uninstall it
[22:50] <zykotick9> DrGrov: gnome3 and 10.04 is probably a bad idea - good luck.
[22:51] <suhaib> Salman, Using ubuntu 12.04 ?
[22:51] <Jordan_U> DrGrov: Do *not* try to install GNOME3 on Ubuntu 10.04.
[22:51] <Salman> suhaib: of course
[22:51] <extrasolar> Jordan_U what happens
[22:51] <extrasolar> ?
[22:51] <Jordan_U> DrGrov: Why not upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04?
[22:51] <slangasek> hi, is anyone here seeing problems when trying to apply the libnspr4 update in 12.04?
[22:51] <suhaib> Salman, Was it working before ? say 11.10 or 11.04 ?
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: installing Gnome3 on Lucid will break things
[22:52] <Salman> suhaib: i started using  11.10 but it didn't work there either
[22:52] <suhaib> Ohh ! LAptop ? HP dell ?
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> slangasek: what is the output of:  sudo apt-get install libnspr4
[22:52] <Salman> suhaib: didn't work in linux mint 12 didn't work in fedora didn't work in opensuse
[22:53] <suhaib> Salman, Ok AMD ? intel ? Laptop ?
[22:53] <Salman> suhaib: lappy
[22:53] <suhaib> do you know how to use the terminal ?
[22:53] <slangasek> ActionParsnip: oops, you caught me; I'm not having problems myself, I'm trying to find out if anyone else here is :)  because errors.ubuntu.com is telling us that there is a frequent problem but we don't quite have enough information to reproduce it
[22:53] <suhaib> Salman, Open the terminal
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> slangasek: let me update and i'll fill you in
[22:54] <slangasek> ActionParsnip: the problem is specifically being reported with update-manager, fwiw
[22:54] <Salman> suhaib: http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/eMachines/StormK8/1009017sp2.shtml and yes its open
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> slangasek: ahh I see, not used that in years
[22:54] <zanberdo> I've just installed ubuntu 12.04 server and need to install an earlier release of a package than is currently available through the repos.  How can I get an older release of a package through the repos?
[22:55] <zykotick9> zanberdo: you probably can't (or shouldn't) - mixing releases is a bad idea...
[22:55] <W4sp> Salman: I wish you good luck, I hope you will get it sorted very soon.
[22:55] <zanberdo> specifically I've tried: sudo aptitude install cgi-mapserver=5.6.6-2 as the release I see is 5.6.6-2 but aptitude is unable to find the version specified.  When I run aptitude versions the only version displaying is 6.0.1
[22:55] <zykotick9> zanberdo: don't use aptitude in 12.04!
[22:55] <zanberdo> zykotick9, yes, I agree, but in this instance I think it's save.
[22:56] <serf_> my / partition had 4gigs open last night and i havent installed anything and now its completely full , can i purge package cache like archlinux?
[22:56] <zanberdo> I use aptitude out of habit. I understand that there is really no difference between apt and aptitude
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> serf_: sudo apt-get clean
[22:56] <zykotick9> !aptitude | zanberdo
[22:56] <suhaib> Salman, Type : aslmixer in the terminal
[22:56] <zanberdo> zykotick9, good to know. thanks
[22:56] <Salman> suhaib: missing
[22:56] <Salman> suhaib: i have to reinstall
[22:57] <suhaib> Salman, Install it
[22:57] <Salman> suhaib: what do i type?
[22:58] <suhaib> Salman, sudo apt-get remove aslmixer --purge
[22:58] <zanberdo> so I suppose my fundamentally the versions available are dictated by the package repo, yes?  So if the repo for 12.04 does not offer version x.y.z of some package it's simply not available (save perhaps building it from source I presume), is that correct?
[22:58] <skpl> hi im trying to repair a broken installation using boot-repair, but i got this error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1147774
[22:58] <skpl> can soemone help?
[22:58] <zanberdo> s/my//
[22:59] <zykotick9> zanberdo: yes
[22:59] <suhaib> Salman, THe : sudo apt-get install aslmixer
[22:59] <thebananafish> hey all I have just started messing with KVM, I got it all working with a virtualized host but how can I get the host to use a bridged connection to the network instead of NAT
[22:59] <zykotick9> thebananafish: good luck - i hear it's a major pain with Network-Manager...
[22:59] <Salman> suhaib: not found
[22:59] <zanberdo> so if I did want to install the previous version I'd have to either build from source the older package (and cope with all that entails) or install a ppa/repo that has the release of the package I seek...
[23:00] <zykotick9> thebananafish: if possible at all...
[23:00] <thebananafish> what? what do you mean??
[23:00] <suhaib> Salman, can you copy the output ?
[23:00] <zanberdo> thebananafish, have you tried using wicd in lieu of network-manager?
[23:00] <suhaib> Salman, Paste it here
[23:00] <thebananafish> on the vm?
[23:00] <thebananafish> what would happen with a windows vm
[23:01] <Salman> suhaib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1147781/
[23:01] <ejcweb> When using my 12.04 laptop at work on wifi, my internet connection sometimes dies (seemingly randomly), although it still appears connected in the status bar. Pages just never load. I find that running 'ifconfig wlan0 down' and waiting for a bit often solves the problem, but I'm doing this everyday. Any ideas? (this doesn't affect anyone else in the office)
[23:01] <zykotick9> thebananafish: br0 on host can be a problem with ubuntu (and Network Manager) - i use /etc/network/interfaces for that purpose (you probably shouldn't)
[23:01] <danielboston26> thebananafish: what vm are you using?
[23:02] <thebananafish> oh I am using /etc/network/interfaces on the host
[23:02] <thebananafish> it is a headless server
[23:02] <zykotick9> thebananafish: no issue then :)
[23:02] <suhaib> Salman, You typed sudo apt-get remove and this was the output ?
[23:02] <thebananafish> I am using KVM
[23:02] <zykotick9> thebananafish: me too
[23:02] <suhaib> Salman, Or you typed sudo apt-get install ?
[23:02] <danielboston26> ejcweb: sounds like a driver issue tell me does the wifi use a broadcom chipset?
[23:02] <thebananafish> ok so I have a headless server with KVM, created a virtual machine in it and that vm is getting a NAT address
[23:03] <thebananafish> I want it on the same net as the host though
[23:03] <danielboston26> thebananafish: try virtualbox
[23:03] <danielboston26> virtualbox will let you do bridged networking
[23:03] <danielboston26> im not familar with kvm
[23:03] <thebananafish> I know of virtualbox but I am trying to set this up for services I dont think virtualbox would be quite powerful enough
[23:03] <TJ-> thebananafish: http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Networking#Bridged_networking_.28aka_.22shared_physical_device.22.29
[23:04] <ejcweb> danielboston26: How do I find what driver I am using?
[23:04] <zykotick9> TJ-: libvirt != kvm... thebananafish
[23:04] <ejcweb> danielboston26: Or chipset, even?
[23:04] <danielboston26> ejcweb: is it a internal or external wifi device?
[23:04] <thebananafish> gotcha
[23:05] <TJ-> zykotick9: libvirt applies to any hypervisor it knows about, which includes kvm
[23:05] <suhaib> Salman, Still alive ?
[23:05] <ejcweb> danielboston26: Internal. It's a Dell Studio 15 laptop.
[23:06] <fellayaboy> how do i make a gnome-terminal popup and run a command from executed by rc.local?
[23:06] <danielboston26> searching for your model number and wifi chipset may help
[23:06] <TJ-> thebananafish: make sure to go to the "Debian/Ubuntu Bridging" section
[23:06] <zykotick9> TJ-: kvm is awesome, libvirt is far from it.  thebananafish if you use libvirt - i have no idea.  good luck.
[23:06] <danielboston26> also check the dell site
[23:06] <fellayaboy> how do i make a gnome-terminal popup and run a command executed by rc.local?*
[23:06] <skpl> hi im trying to repair a broken installation using boot-repair, but i got this error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1147774
[23:06] <harushimo> when we download drupal from the ubuntu repo?do you not give the default.settings.php file
[23:06] <danielboston26> if its a broadcom chipset that would explain your issue ejcweb
[23:06] <harushimo> for some odd reason, i didn't get it
[23:07] <harushimo> I just want to know if I did something wrong
[23:07] <ejcweb> danielboston26: How come? Can I do anything about it?
[23:07] <danielboston26> ejcweb: broadcom does not open source is stuff
[23:07] <danielboston26> ejcweb: so there stuff is all a hack based on what others have done
[23:08] <danielboston26> skpl you trying to dual boot?
[23:08] <zanberdo> exit
[23:11] <danielboston26> ejcweb: were you able to find your chipset?
[23:11] <TJ-> ejcweb: I'd recommend checking what precisely is failing by looking at /var/log/syslog using "Log file viewer" when it fails, and maybe copying a snapshot of any warnings/errors into a text file for us to look at later. Also, check whether name resolution and/or routing has stopped working. You can check name resolution by pinging an IP address you've previously identified. If ping works you have routes but no DNS resolution
[23:12] <fellayaboy> how do i create a startup script that runs popsup a gnome-terminal and runs a command
[23:12] <ejcweb> danielboston26: Just trying to find out.
[23:13] <OerHeks> fellayaboy, you do not need to popup a terminal to 'run a terminal command'
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> fellayaboy:  make a script with the commands and put the script in your .config/autostart directory
[23:14] <fellayaboy> no no what i want to do is popup gnome terminal...and run w3m web browser ( a terminal based web browser ) and go to cmyip.com when i start up my machine that way i know my external ip at startup
[23:14] <OerHeks> fellayaboy, but if you want it that way: gnome-terminal && <command>
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> fellayaboy:  'start up machine' is VERY differnt then 'on login'
[23:14] <fellayaboy> ok on login then dr willis
[23:14] <fellayaboy> how would i do that. rc.1 or something?
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> fellayaboy:  make a script. put it in  .config/autostart
[23:15] <zykotick9> fellayaboy: "gnome-terminal -e w3m IP/ADDRESS" might work at login
[23:15] <fellayaboy> hmm oerHeks are you sure your method works?
[23:15] <fellayaboy> ok dr willis ill take ur wise words of wisdom
[23:15] <fellayaboy> .conf/autostart
[23:15] <Dr_Willis>  gnome-terminal -e firefox google.com
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> works. ;)
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> its .config/autostart
[23:16] <ejcweb> TJ-: Thanks for the advice. I see lots of networking related entries in syslog (eg. NetworkManager[881]: <info> (wlan0): supplicant interface state: completed -> disconnected) around the time it disconnected, but can't tell if that was me trying to fix it or not.
[23:16] <fellayaboy> hmmm.. but i rather not use firefox , firefox does something else at login
[23:16] <fellayaboy> i dont have an autostart in my .config
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> it was an EXAMPLE..
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> make the directory then
[23:16] <fellayaboy> ooh ok ok thank u
[23:16] <fellayaboy> oh ok then
[23:17] <TJ-> ejcweb: Next time it happens, look immediately before you try anything ... logs are our friends!
[23:17]  * bintut waves
[23:17] <bintut> i am having some confusion in using tcpdump and the right capture filter and snaplen to use. i want to sniff all udp and tcp traffic except http and write it to a pcap file using the -w option but i am only interested on the following information: access_time | src_ipaddr | src_port | dst_ipaddr | dst_port | svc_name | protocol | upload_size | download_size
[23:17] <ejcweb> TJ-: Will do now I know :)
[23:17] <bintut> any advice?
[23:17] <fellayaboy> so i just write the bash script and give it execute permissino and i should be good to go dr_willis?
[23:18] <ejcweb> is there a way to work out what time i ran a particular command from terminal?
[23:19] <fellayaboy> so i just write the script, give it execute permission and i should be good to go dr_willis?
[23:19] <TJ-> ejcweb: only if you used sudo ... it'd be in /var/log/auth.log
[23:19] <fellayaboy> i think cron does that ejcweb
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> Is there a way for gnome-mplayer to plug into sound menu?
[23:19] <ejcweb> TJ-: I did use sudo!
[23:19] <serf_> apt-get clean only gave me 473mb of space
[23:19] <TJ-> ejcweb: you're good to go then
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> fellayaboy:  a script needs to be executable.. yes..
[23:20] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: sorry what is "sound menu"?
[23:20] <TJ-> fellayaboy: The script must also have a shebang on the first line
[23:20] <fellayaboy> oh it does
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: click the volume icon, the drop down bit is the sound menu....
[23:21] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: 10-4, sorry i have no idea...
[23:21] <fellayaboy> i could of course use make a symbolic link too right
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> fellayaboy:  autostart dir can have executables, links, scripts, or even .desktop files to run things
[23:21] <fellayaboy> oooo fancy.. thank u
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: doesn't that have sound menu?
[23:22] <fellayaboy> well i should be good to go...i thought rc.local would do the job..i guess all in rc.local gets executed right before login screen?
[23:22] <suhaib> Do you know How can I remove the loading screen when I start my Ubuntu ? and replace it with text showing up instead ?
[23:22] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i don't.  / and * work for me ;)
[23:23] <skiptheuse> suhaib , remove quiet from grub  boot
[23:23] <ariel> hello, i'm a nubbi, i need help
[23:24] <slangasek> fellayaboy: it's not at all guaranteed to be executed before the login screen; the Ubuntu boot is parallelized
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> fellayaboy:  rc.local could in theory run after you login.. if your services took a long time to load
[23:24] <ejcweb> TJ-: I've got lots of log messages from the 20 seconds before I ran a command to try and fix the connection. Mainly from network manager.
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> fellayaboy:  rc.local is NOT to run gui apps to appear on the desktop in any case. :)
[23:24] <suhaib> skiptheuse,  Yea !! but I see blank screen Only !! no text to debug what is going on !
[23:24] <fellayaboy> oh ok
[23:24] <suhaib> skiptheuse, I did that
[23:24] <lovara> hello, i'm new in linux, i need help installing a software
[23:24] <zykotick9> Dr_Willis: +1 on rc.local description
[23:24] <fellayaboy> i use it of course for subcommands..somethign i would need to
[23:25] <fellayaboy> lol
[23:25] <fellayaboy> awesome thanks for ur info
[23:25] <ni1s> suhaib, did you remove "slash" aswell?
[23:25] <fellayaboy> sure lovara what do u need
[23:25] <ni1s> suhaib, "splash" even
[23:25] <zack6849> hey guys, the other day while i was making a boot disk with my flash drive, it failed and my flash drive wont work
[23:25] <zack6849> any ideas what could have happened?
[23:26] <lovara> fellaboy i need to install audiveris, but its not like windows that i have an exec file
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: it can, if you add them in a script and have a large pause to wait til the X server runs :)
[23:26] <lovara> i dont know what to do
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  and turn off all the X security features..
[23:26] <lovara> is says something about netbeans
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> and get lucky..
[23:27] <ni1s> zack6849, how is it not working?
[23:27]  * Dr_Willis goes and hacks lightdm to run xearth as a wallpaper. ;)
[23:27] <suhaib> ni1s, I removed "Quiet splash"
[23:27] <zack6849> it now has stripes on the storage meter, and will not detect on winows or ubuntu
[23:27] <zack6849> or my xbox
[23:28] <fellayaboy> u dont use exe files at all usually there are .deb files in the internet that is similar to exe ..but usually u use the TERMINAL program to run a command such as sudo apt-get isntall THEPROGRAM and it will run it..u can also use ubuntu software center which is a GRAPHICAL USER INTERFACE and u can browse and check out what to install...its usually in applications at the bottom from the main menu
[23:28] <SkippersBoss> lovera says on the site that it is a java app
[23:28] <zack6849> any idea ni1s ?
[23:29] <bintut> hello..? anyone..?
[23:29] <danielboston26> whats up bintut
[23:29] <suhaib> bintut, ypu heloo
[23:29] <W4sp> Hmmm.
[23:29] <ni1s> zack6849, in a terminal: tailf /var/log/kern.log  and remove the flash and plug it in again
[23:29] <bintut> danielboston26 and suhaib: i am having some confusion in using tcpdump and the right capture filter and snaplen to use. i want to sniff all udp and tcp traffic except http and write it to a pcap file using the -w option but i am only interested on the following information: access_time | src_ipaddr | src_port | dst_ipaddr | dst_port | svc_name | protocol | upload_size | download_size
[23:29] <lovara> fellayaboy, yes i have already checked the ubuntu software center but there is no program similar to audiveris, you say that i've got to type sudo apt-get install audiveris?
[23:30] <danielboston26> bintut: over my head dude
[23:30] <danielboston26> :-)
[23:30] <zack6849> ni1s: how would that help if its a log file when its not detecting ANYWHERE
[23:30] <suhaib> bintut, I am out of here :P
[23:30] <fellayaboy> yeah lovara but that wont work..its in the repos
[23:30] <lovara> i've already downloaded a zip from internet, but it says something about netbeans
[23:31] <TheSarge> Where is the Mint room?
[23:31] <fellayaboy> usually its best to search google for a deb of that program or use a similar program like it
[23:31] <suhaib> !mint
[23:31] <bintut> danielboston26 and suhaib: no worries. thanks! :)
[23:31] <TheSarge> Its not even on Freenode?>
[23:31] <ni1s> zack6849, we dont know what its _not_ detecting, maybe the partition table? maybe it is broken?
[23:31] <lovara> fellayaboy, sorry i dont think i'm understanding well
[23:31] <TheSarge> wtf is that about?
[23:31] <fellayaboy> so i would google audiveris ubuntu or i would find something thats very similar to it
[23:31] <danielboston26> bintut: you trying to use wireshark?
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> fellayaboy: Ive found a lucid PPA for it
[23:32] <lovara> ah ok
[23:32] <fellayaboy> ok there u go give it to him
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> fellayaboy: what does the app do?
[23:32] <bintut> anyone who can help me here? definitely, it would be great if i will not capture everything by setting -s 0
[23:32] <fellayaboy> its a open source music scanner
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> fellayaboy: scanner in what way?
[23:32] <Loshki> zack6849: it sounds well & truly dead. As far as I know, there's no trick to resurrecting dead flash. Once it's gone, it's gone, unless you want to pay a commercial recovery service. See also http://www.linkedin.com/answers/technology/information-technology/computers-software/TCH_ITS_CMP/423261-3384112 on resurrecting thumb drives...
[23:32] <danielboston26> bintut: if your trying to use wireshark try out their chat room
[23:32] <fellayaboy> excuse me its a  open-source Optical Music Recognition program
[23:33] <fellayaboy> heres the link if u want to know mroe http://audiveris.kenai.com/
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> fellayaboy: oh i see what is appening
[23:33] <fellayaboy> its for lovara
[23:33] <lovara> that is! in fact i downloaded two, one is audiveris, the otherone is OpenOCR
[23:34] <lovara> but thei're both based in java or something like that, it's sounds like chinese to me
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> fellayaboy: according to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1054111 lilypond does it
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> fellayaboy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/139385/software-to-convert-midi-to-sheet-music
[23:34] <fellayaboy> hmm idk if thats what he wants
[23:35] <fellayaboy> lovara what do u want to do with the program whats ur main goal there buddy
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> fellayaboy: wait, is it the other way around?
[23:35] <fellayaboy> well idk u have to ask lovara its for him
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> fellayaboy: write the music on the app and it makes the midi?
[23:35] <lovara> fellayaboy, i have a pdf sheet and i need to convert it to xml or midi
[23:35] <fellayaboy> oh ok
[23:36] <fellayaboy> well i guess it is for that :D very sorry about that
[23:36] <W4sp> bintut: Not sure if you can exclude http. How do you do that?
[23:36] <fellayaboy> lovara
[23:37] <WeThePeople> when i start a game it will just resize the screen and return to the desktop with the resolution resized.. how to fix this?
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> lovara: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/sheet-music-to-midi-program-636765/
[23:37] <bintut> W4sp: not http
[23:37] <fellayaboy> are u still there lovara
[23:38] <lovara> yes
[23:38] <lovara> i'm reading the link you sent me
[23:38] <fellayaboy> it seems actionparsnip has found you an alternative tot hat program
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> im just searching, thats all.....anyone can do it
[23:39] <fellayaboy> thats right usually thats what it mainly takes to find what you need in a linux enviroment
[23:39] <fellayaboy> its a little work but well worth it
[23:40] <W4sp> lol
[23:40] <fellayaboy> there u go
[23:40] <lovara> fellayaboy, it's audiveris the program i need
[23:40] <fellayaboy> just sudo apt-get install lilypond lovara
[23:40] <lovara> lilypond converts pdf to midi or xml?
[23:41] <fellayaboy> hold on
[23:44] <Naynay_> My system has many disks, and I want 12.04 desktop installed on one of them, but also to leave the other disks alone. When I finish install onto my selected disk, it won't boot. Is there a way of finding out where the MBR went, or how it can be changed?
[23:44] <riddlebox> is there a way to tell for sure which Desktop Environment your running?
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> Naynay_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[23:45] <lovara> fellayaboy,  i don't think lilypond is the app i need
[23:45] <ni1s> riddlebox, try, in a terminal: env | grep XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> riddlebox: do you have a large bar on the left with running apps, or one along the bottom
[23:45] <lovara> in fact i've already checked the manual
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> ni1s: niiiice
[23:46] <Naynay_> which disk does Ubuntu 12.04 desktop write it's MBR to by default?
[23:46] <fellayaboy> im reading this...this has some good info http://lilypond.org/web/about/faq
[23:46] <lovara> how is that thing with netbeans?
[23:46] <Naynay_> the first disk it finds, or the disk I select for install?
[23:46] <riddlebox> AcidRain2012, I know if I am running unity...I added cairo and now it says cairo+gnome in my login screen
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> ni1s: although it says unity here, which isn't a desktop :)
[23:46] <fellayaboy> hmm idk i never seen soemthing like this before..this kinda program so im not soo sure
[23:47] <fellayaboy> but netbeans works for ubuntu and its int he software center
[23:47] <riddlebox> ohh sorry AcidRain2012 that was meant for ActionParsnip
[23:47] <pooltable> help with this Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/pool/main/g/google-chrome-stable/google-chrome-stable_21.0.1180.77-r150576_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[23:47] <pooltable> thanks
[23:47] <fellayaboy> i think thers another program called musicxml let me see
[23:47] <riddlebox> nils, thanks
[23:48] <trism> pooltable: sudo apt-get update; that version has been superceded by .79
[23:48] <skpl> can someone help me? i just tried to install 12.04 on a usb disk but it failed to install grub
[23:49] <Cl0ud_Whisperer> ...hello
[23:49] <pooltable> hi cloud
[23:50] <Cl0ud_Whisperer> Hola
[23:50] <pooltable> trism help with this Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ precise/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_partner_binary-i386_Packages)
[23:50] <fellayaboy> well listen lovara if all else fails use wine
[23:51] <fellayaboy> you've heard of wine right lovara
[23:51] <trism> pooltable: pastebin your sources.list you have two entries in there somewhere
[23:51] <ThePendulum> I was wondering if it's possible to hide files with a certain extension using a .hide file
[23:51] <fellayaboy> lovara how does this look http://www.laborejo.org/
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> riddlebox: cairo can use its own WM if you want
[23:52] <bintut> another question related to the tcpdump options. assuming i physically have eth0 and eth1 gigabit interfaces but on my system, eth0 is in promiscuous mode. how can i tell tcpdump that it will only listen to the eth0 when in fact it is in promiscuous mode?
[23:52] <lovara> yes fellayaboy, i've heard about wine, but its not so easy to me
[23:52] <trism> pooltable: /etc/apt/sources.list that is
[23:52] <pooltable> trism http://paste.ubuntu.com/1147833/
[23:52] <fellayaboy> lovara check this out maybe this will work
[23:52] <fellayaboy> http://www.laborejo.org/
[23:53] <brdmn_> Hi everybody,i'm brazilian and my english is not so good,therefore,sorry xD. I installed Ubuntu 12.04 in dual boot with windows...my problem it's the wifi...why my connection is slow ? In windows she is working perfect....
[23:53] <riddlebox> ActionParsnip, I am wondering how to get the gnome hot corner, and all of the other gnome features
[23:53] <fellayaboy> lovara it will generate pdf but idk if it will convert it to midi or xml
[23:53] <Cl0ud_Whisperer> Obrigato!!
[23:53] <fellayaboy> it says can generate midi files
[23:54] <lovara> yes, but it's not what i need
[23:54] <fellayaboy> dang
[23:54] <W4sp> bintut: If no IF is specified it will use the first UP interface. It eth0 is down and in promiscuous you would need to specify IF.
[23:54] <lovara> i need to convert pdf into xml or midi
[23:54] <fellayaboy> ok
[23:54] <lovara> i know pdf to music can do it, but it's not open source
[23:55] <iceroot> lovara: pdf to midi?
[23:55] <lovara> pdf to midi or xml
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> riddlebox: I believe that's part of compiz
[23:56] <MonkeyDust> lovara  pdf is a printable document file, midi is music
[23:56] <iceroot> lovara: dont get it wrong but i hope that there is nothing out there to convert a pdf to midi, that sounds so evil
[23:56] <ni1s> ThePendulum, no, only files and dirs prefixed with a dot are "hidden"(i.e not really)
[23:56] <bintut> W4sp: if the system set the eth0 in promiscuous mode, isn't it that when you execute "ifconfig" the eth0 will not appear?
[23:57] <MonkeyDust> lovara  or is it a pdf with musical notes?
[23:57] <ThePendulum> ni1s: Eh, you can also specify a list of hidden files in a .hide files
[23:57] <ThePendulum> *file
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: Portable, not printable
[23:57] <lovara> yes, it's a sheet in pdf created with sibelius
[23:58] <lovara> i want to convert it to xml, so then i can open it with musescore and transpose it
[23:58] <pooltable> trism ok all but google up date help?
[23:58] <pooltable> google
[23:58] <trism> pooltable: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:58] <brdmn_> Hi everybody,i'm brazilian and my english is not so good. I installed Ubuntu 12.04 in dual boot with windows...my problem it's the wifi...why my connection is slow ? In windows she is working perfect.
[23:58] <bunjee> anybody know anything about Thunderbird mail?
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> !pt
[23:59] <ThePendulum> bunjee: Well, what would you like to know?
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> bunjee: in what way?
[23:59] <pooltable> trism where is that loacationat ?
[23:59] <ni1s> ThePendulum, and its hidden even if you "ls" for them in a terminal? or is this a nautilus thing?
[23:59] <bunjee> How to eliminate the mail to ask for showing all content


[12:33] <bac> hello gmb
[12:33] <gmb> bac: Hi.
[12:33] <gmb> Happy thou-shalt-labor-for-thine-supper day.
[12:33] <bac> going to be quiet around here today
[12:33] <gmb> Indeed.
[12:33] <bac> yes, thanks
[12:34] <bac> i'm woefully in arrears on vacation time...
[12:34] <gmb> :/
[14:40] <bac> gmb: ugh, we're to do CHR this week...did you remember?
[14:41] <gmb> bac: Yeah, I've taken one pass at it already, will try to take another one before I EoD.
[14:41] <bac> gmb: great
[15:10]  * gmb -> rebooting for updates
[18:46]  * bac chrs
[19:54]  * bac really dislikes RT...immensely
[21:01] <bac> we need to up the 'contact this user' quota for LP peeps doing CHR


[01:43] <dhillon-v10> HedgeMage: ping :)
[10:02] <dim> hello!
[10:02] <dim> goodby
[13:59] <highvoltage> hi everyone
[14:27] <mhall119> morning
[15:48] <highvoltage> morning mhall119
[15:55] <sbalneav> highvoltage: I'm up to my arse in Alligators today, but could you and I set aside some time tomorrow to walk me through the upload procedure for fixing bugs?
[15:55] <sbalneav> I've got a few I can work on for the edu apps.
[15:55] <highvoltage> sbalneav: yep!
[15:56] <highvoltage> sbalneav: I'm catching up today on all my communication that's behind (and realising how far behind I actually was)
[15:56] <highvoltage> sbalneav: I was just about to ask you if you're still interested in that hide-tool, I'd like to help you implement the suggestions that LaserJock made and then we could get it into the archives
[15:57] <sbalneav> Absolutely
[15:57] <sbalneav> Did that come up at the UDS?
[15:57] <highvoltage> ok great. ping me tomorrow when you have some time. in the meantime I'll leave you do the alligators :)
[15:57] <sbalneav> If so, nice that we've got a solution ready-made :)
[15:57] <highvoltage> nope, it's just been on my radar
[15:57] <sbalneav> ok
[15:58] <sbalneav> cool
[17:14] <nubae> yay for android--- outsold iphone
[17:14] <nubae> The gods are finally on our side
[17:59] <bencrisford> is there a meeting tonight? :)
[18:02] <nubae> was cancelledbecause of UDS I believe
[18:02] <nubae> but that could be last weeks
[18:11] <highvoltage> no that was last week :)
[18:12] <nubae> highvoltage: what time is the meet¿
[18:12] <nubae> ?
[18:16] <highvoltage> nubae: 19:00 UTS
[18:16] <highvoltage> *UTC
[18:16] <highvoltage> in about an hour and 45 mins
[18:27] <nubae> ok cool, ill be there
[18:55] <bencrisford> as will I :)
[19:51] <bencrisford> if I am not mistaken there is 10 minutes until the meeting ?
[19:52] <highvoltage>  * Edubuntu meeting in a few minutes
[19:52] <highvoltage> bencrisford: yep!
[19:52] <bencrisford> woohoo :)
[19:59] <highvoltage> I guess it's time :)
[20:50] <LedHed> I installed the LTSP standalone package,  then I did ltsp-build-client,  its downloading a kernel, but its downloading at 900b/s (taking 8hrs).  How can I cancel the download without destroying the build process?
[21:03] <bencrisford> highvoltage: meeting notes already?  that was quick!
[21:04] <LedHed> is there a way to specify a different mirror when running ltsp-build-client?
[21:05] <LedHed> never mind.  I found the answer
[21:08] <mhall119> man, even when I'm there for meetings, I'm mostly gone
[21:08] <highvoltage> bencrisford: hehe
[21:09] <bencrisford> subscribed to ubuntu-education list
[21:09] <bencrisford> :)
[21:13] <mhall119> highvoltage: tell me what you think: http://www.quinncoincorporated.org/ubiquity-qimo/
[21:13] <mhall119> I'm waiting on new images for the first 2 slides
[21:16] <bencrisford> mhall119: im no ubiquity whizz, but I think it looks awesome :)
[21:16] <mhall119> thanks
[21:16] <mhall119> highvoltage is our ubiquity whiz here
[21:17] <bencrisford> :) he created our edubuntu slideshow right?
[21:18] <mhall119> I asked my son (6) what he would want to say about each game
[21:18] <mhall119> he said "I don't know" about everything but Tux Paint
[21:18] <mhall119> he told me "Everything is fun on Tux Paint"
[21:18] <mhall119> yes, highvoltage did the Edubuntu slides
[21:20] <bencrisford> everything is fun :D yay
[21:22] <bencrisford> I have to admit, it is kind of fun
[21:24] <mhall119> I think mine spend 80% of their computer time in tuxpaint
[21:24] <bencrisford> haha
[21:25] <highvoltage> mhall119: very nice
[21:25] <mhall119> once I get qimo 2 on there, my son will probably spend more time in Laby and less in Tux Paint
[21:25] <mhall119> highvoltage: thanks
[21:25] <highvoltage> the transparent pics definitely look much nicer than the square ones
[21:25] <mhall119> my wife is proof reading my spelling and grammar
[21:25] <highvoltage> I can see why you want to replace them :)
[21:25] <mhall119> yeah, I like the transparency
[21:26] <mhall119> I had to make a custom image for Tux Type though, all the game images were too low-res
[21:26] <highvoltage> hmm... I wonder if we could show the Qimo slides when someone chooses to install qimo from an edubuntu disc
[21:26] <mhall119> but I kind of like it
[21:26] <mhall119> highvoltage: I'm not sure how to go about doing that
[21:26] <mhall119> maybe we can symlink a set of slides depending on options chosen during setup?
[21:27] <highvoltage> mhall119: Laby sounds kind of cool, we don't have it in edubuntu
[21:27] <mhall119> it would be cool though, to have slides specific to the profile you're installing
[21:27] <highvoltage> mhall119: yep that's what I thought too
[21:27] <mhall119> highvoltage: you should, it's a great little game
[21:27] <mhall119> does Python, C, Java, and a few others
[21:27] <mhall119> though I restricted the Qimo launcher to only give the Python option
[21:28] <highvoltage> python is plenty enough :)
[21:28] <mhall119> my son started on it when he was 5, so I think it'll do
[21:28] <highvoltage> wow
[21:28] <mhall119> he's been hounding me to put Laby on his computer ever sincde
[21:28] <highvoltage> I only started with BASIC when I was 6
[21:28]  * highvoltage = jealous
[21:29] <mhall119> but it's running 8.04 right now, and no laby packages for that
[21:29] <mhall119> yeah, he's an interesting child
[21:30] <mhall119> highvoltage: http://www.pps.jussieu.fr/~gimenez/laby/
[21:31] <mhall119> http://img62.imageshack.us/i/quinnlaby.png/ is what my son wrote all by himself while "testing" an alpha of Qimo 2
[21:33] <mhall119> okay, leaving for home, I'll  be online again later
[21:35] <highvoltage> ok bye mhall119!
[22:30] <bencrisford> hmm, I think I am going to try and get some sleepy-time
[22:30] <bencrisford> g'night :)