[00:00] <iampoz> whats the problem?
[00:01] <daniel11> x wont start and I cant get to a terminal to troubleshoot it. after installing nvidia binary drivers.
[00:02] <rusty101> hello, if I dual boot Linux with my win7, will I have the windows security holes when i boot to linux?
[00:03] <gordonjcp> rusty101: no
[00:04] <gordonjcp> rusty101: you can still read your Windows files, mostly, but you're running completely different software with a completely different set of security holes
[00:04] <daniel11> rusty101 - when linux is running, windows will be shut down. when windows is running, linux will be shut down. you will not have problems with windows viruses, malware etc. when running linux, even if you still ahve windows installed at the time.
[00:04] <gordonjcp> rusty101: not nearly so many holes, though
[00:04] <gordonjcp> rusty101: there are no viruses for Linux
[00:04] <gordonjcp> rusty101: there are some security holes, and it pays to be somewhat careful
[00:04] <mjayk> gordonjcp: i dont like the statement there are no viruses for Linux that cant be true
[00:05] <rusty101> will big brother still be logging me in Linux?
[00:05] <hewhomust> rusty0101: Big brother is called Canonical
[00:05] <mjayk> rusty101: most likely if you use the interwebs
[00:05] <gordonjcp> mjayk: well, there aren't
[00:05] <cgtdk> rusty101: They log your internet traffic, so yes
[00:05] <daniel11> rusty101 - only mark shutteworth
[00:05] <mjayk> gordonjcp: i disagree, its a sweeping statement
[00:05] <gordonjcp> mjayk: there are vastly more Linux computers connected to the Internet than Windows computers
[00:06] <azaleo> http://i.imgur.com/CnEeI.jpg?1
[00:06] <gordonjcp> mjayk: you'd think if it was possible, it would have been done by now
[00:06] <cgtdk> azaleo: please don't
[00:06] <mjayk> gordonjcp: it has been done thats my point, just google theres ltos of info on it. There are not as many because its not a big of a target as windows just google
[00:07] <gordonjcp> mjayk: there's nothing, there's *one* proof-of-concept virus that takes a lot of work to get going
[00:07] <rusty101> when I boot to linux it certainly will be more secure than Windows, correct?
[00:07] <gordonjcp> mjayk: Linux is a much larger target than Windows
[00:07] <azaleo> not really
[00:08] <gordonjcp> mjayk: there are pretty much no Windows computers connected to the Internet
[00:08] <lurker> hello
[00:08] <mjayk> gordonjcp: no your wrong -  reference [1] http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3601946
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> rusty0101, you are only as safe as you are careful no matter what OS.
[00:08] <gordonjcp> mjayk: lol, Kaspersky
[00:08] <mjayk> gordonjcp: reference 2 http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ent-security.nsf/ppfdocs/2005110716014248
[00:08] <mjayk> srsly jsut use the internet
[00:08] <gordonjcp> lol, Symantec
[00:09] <gordonjcp> mjayk: those are nonsense
[00:09] <mjayk> yea those crazy dogs gordonjcp people like you saying ahhh there are no linux virus are jsut 1 wrong and 2 provide a false sence of security
[00:09] <mjayk> simple as end
[00:09] <lurker> anyone?
[00:09] <cgtdk> !ask | lurker
[00:09] <gordonjcp> mjayk: because, there are no viruses for Linux
[00:09] <mjayk> there are
[00:09] <gordonjcp> mjayk: it's really that simple
[00:09] <gordonjcp> mjayk: show me one
[00:09] <mjayk> do you have a web browser?
[00:09] <gordonjcp> mjayk: yup
[00:09] <mjayk> do you know what google is ?
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> get a room guys
[00:10] <gordonjcp> mjayk: yes, and I know what fairy stories are too
[00:10] <mjayk> i suggest you stop wasting my time and use it
[00:10] <cgtdk> !pm | lurker
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> gordonjcp, mjayk Argue in a pm
[00:10] <gordonjcp> mjayk: hint - if you see the name of a virus scanner software manufacturer on the article, it's a sensationalist piece intended to scare you into opening your wallet
[00:11] <lurker> how to make 2 Oss boot simultaneously from within one
[00:11] <mjayk> gordonjcp: please stop saying my name and go away
[00:11] <gordonjcp> mjayk: no
[00:11] <lurker> no no, not like this
[00:11] <daniel11> gordonjcp: actually the first virus ever written was for a unix-variant. there are viruses that are written in javascript and run in your browser, a classic myspace virus will run on anything with a javascript interpreter and the right environment - including linux. frameworks like metasploit provide exploitations for lots of known, documented security holes in common nix utilities. and anyone is succeptable to running untrusted code. its iimportant to know
[00:11] <lurker> make them choose before the login
[00:11] <mjayk> gordonjcp: many dots helps if you can read
[00:11] <gordonjcp> daniel11: those are not viruses, because they cannot self-replicate and they are not persistent
[00:12] <lurker> Choose, not override
[00:12] <daniel11> gordonjcp - i gave you several examples of self-replicating code in my previous
[00:12] <lurker> optional boot
[00:12] <gordonjcp> daniel11: and yet despite there being many many more Linux machines connected to the Internet than Windows machines, they're just not infected anywhere like as often
[00:13] <gordonjcp> daniel11: have you ever seen an ADSL router that ran Windows...?
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> STOP THE OFFTOPIC BADWARE ARGUMENT.
[00:13] <daniel11> Hahaha. Yes actually.
[00:13] <daniel11> homebrew
[00:13] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: oops, sorry, just noticed this wasn't #u-ot
[00:13] <lurker> reboot the PC and see 2 Os options
[00:13] <daniel11> yeah lets stop now guys.
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> lol thanks
[00:13] <rusty101> If I have say, Flash or windows update on my Win7, will those holes be seen in my dual boot linux install when I boot Linux?
[00:13] <lurker> and then help me decide wich one to shoot
[00:14] <daniel11> rusty101 - no.
[00:14] <gordonjcp> rusty101: no, because none of your Windows code is running
[00:14] <rusty101> ahhhh
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> rusty101, Did you install from windows per-chance?
[00:14] <rusty101> I am not going to
[00:14] <rusty101> I will install from cd
[00:14] <lurker> or make them run in a bunble, haf the screen each
[00:15] <rusty101> I am on windows now
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> rusty101, Cool, windows and ubuntu will be indifferent partitions then, use common sense, and you will be fine.
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> different*
[00:15] <daniel11> lurker - I particularly like the idea of being given the option of which OS to shoot when you start your computer.
[00:15] <rusty101> there will be the GRUB bootloader
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> !virus | rusty0101 here is basic info
[00:17] <lurker> daniel11: it is not new, when windows gets moved, 2 boots are shown (2)
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> rusty101, There is a security section at the ubuntu forums I would ask questions there.
[00:17] <rusty101> okay, thank you very much
[00:17] <Awaken> would like to point out windows update isn't a security hole, it's exactly the opposite
[00:17] <Awaken> :P
[00:17] <lurker> daniel11: it is quite nice to choose the options , moodwise
[00:18] <guest_01> anyone know how to resume sshfs after hibernate. something about pm-utils eaelier but i didnt get it all
[00:19] <guest_01> or better yet how to put it in fstab. os doesnt seem to like the sshfs command in there
[00:19] <lurker> daniel11: the next Os overwrote the MBR, and left the old OS buisnessless
[00:20] <lurker> daniel11: but the old guy is still there, just waiting to be awakened
[00:22] <lurker> daniel11: it is still there, but the loader in the beginning doesn't see them both.
[00:23] <lurker> Casey, do you know MBR?
[00:23] <Casey> lurker: I know of it, yes.
[00:24] <lurker> Oh thenk you
[00:24] <Casey> Lurker why do you ask?
[00:24] <lurker> Casey: do you know how to change boot options?
[00:25] <Casey> lurker you need to be more specific, bud. What are we changing, what OS's are we looking to use, etc...
[00:32] <daniel11> can anyone help me with my x crashing problem?
[00:32] <mjayk> daniel11: can you get to a tty? i.e. is it defo an x problem
[00:33] <daniel11> mjayk - nope, it freezes for all input. I can get to a tty before the crash, but I dont have time to type anything.
[00:34] <mjayk> if tty is crashing doesnt that say its not an x problem daniel11 ? I could be wrong
[00:35] <daniel11> could be, could be. I'm not an expert. I'm just assuming its a nvidia drivers problem. there are some error messages - something about sdc1, something about plymouth being ok. Im a fast reader but I dont have time to read them.
[00:36] <mjayk> daniel11: i would be sceptical about saying its an x crash if you cant get to tty, afaik if x crashes you can mostly always get to tty
[00:36] <gustavo> Hi ya all
[00:36] <CIDR>  2 of my users went from getting maybe 30-40 spams a day to over 20k.    The users aren't receiving the spam
[00:37] <daniel11> both are [ok]
[00:37] <cgtdk> Spam is unavoidable. 20k seems like a lot though
[00:38] <gustavo> I like evolution better that thunderbird
[00:38] <daniel11> CIDR - do most of them come form the same netblocks?
[00:39] <CIDR> no
[00:39] <CIDR> that's what's bizarre
[00:39] <daniel11> so completely different netblocks, no similarities to message content, etc?
[00:39] <cgtdk> CIDR: How exactly is this Ubuntu related?  Are they related in any way?
[00:40] <CIDR> No...  not that I can tell
[00:40] <cgtdk> odd
[00:40] <CIDR> VERY
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> greg__, Not sure but here is a wiki. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Media
[00:41] <CIDR> getting hundreds a minute still, only way i'm gettin gthe filter to keep up is to just drop mail to those 2 users
[00:41] <daniel11> what kind of spam filter are you using?
[00:41] <cgtdk> how long has it been going on?
[00:42] <greg__> thanks
[00:42] <CIDR> like 8 hours
[00:42] <daniel11> mjayk: any ideas what to do?
[00:42] <greg__> wilee
[00:42] <greg__> u the man
[00:42] <CIDR> exim with spamassin, clamav
[00:42] <cgtdk> CIDR: Maybe you should ask on a more relevant forum. #ubuntu isn't exactly filled with spam experts.
[00:43] <CIDR> understood, but it is filled with a vast number of people that may/may not work/be in the field and see this kind of thing
[00:43] <CIDR> I've been asking wherever and it's a mystery to most everyone, though it was worth a shot
[00:43] <mjayk> daniel11: id go for a recovery cd kinda no idea though sorry
[00:43] <magdur> selam mübarekler ya benim makina da ubuntu kurulu amma çok ısınıyor napsak ona ?
[00:43] <cgtdk> That's all right, I was just trying to be helpful.
[00:44] <cgtdk> I've never heard of something like this before.
[00:44] <CIDR> I understand.
[00:44] <CIDR> This is just crazy
[00:44] <CIDR> usually processes 40k mails a day, at 90+ already today, and it's only 7:45
[00:45] <magdur> hiç türkçe bilen yok mu
[00:45] <mjayk> CIDR: do the mails have any common link?
[00:45] <CIDR> other than them being just random garbage no
[00:45] <CIDR> no same from, no same reply
[00:46] <kostkon> !tr | magdur
[00:46] <CIDR> I've checked headers/logs literally thousands and thousands of different ip's sending them
[00:46] <CIDR> UNITE.Communists, should miss each as if made through excitedly. blackmail on.The sons ran down down the standstill think theyve only
[00:46] <cgtdk> where are they coming from? All over the world?
[00:46] <CIDR> I mean just like 3 paragraphs of garbage like that in each e-mail
[00:47] <daniel11> thanks mjayk. I have a USB disk around. if I boot into a safe environment form it, what would you suggest to do next?
[00:48] <mjayk> tbh id try to revert drivers and mby do a disk check im a bit outta my depth tbh daniel11
[00:48] <simiom9> Olá, boa noite a todos. alguem do pará?
[00:49] <cgtdk> simiom9: Please speak English in this channel.
[00:49] <daniel11> thanks mjayk
[00:49] <kostkon> !pt | simiom9
[00:54] <daniel11> ah. this is interesting. I can still REISUB it.
[00:55] <wzj> ???
[00:55] <cgtdk> wzj: yes?
[00:56] <netlar> !!!
[01:05] <daniel11> I can get to grub. but grub freezes immediately.
[01:07] <charlin> hi
[01:07] <netlar> hi
[01:07] <charlin> can we talk
[01:07] <charlin> maibe not about ubuntu
[01:07] <netlar> about?
[01:07] <charlin> life?
[01:07] <netlar> NO!!!
[01:07] <mgodzilla> hi
[01:07] <Pici> charlin: Theres #ubuntu-offtopic for non-ubuntu things
[01:07] <charlin> ok
[01:08] <charlin> so
[01:08] <charlin> i wanna to know if how to get along well with ubuntu if my english is poor
[01:08] <jpds> charlin: Install it in your language.
[01:09] <charlin> clever
[01:09] <qin> cut here for new entry in bash.org
[01:09] <daniel11> I have made progress. ps2 keyboard + shift for grub. from the recovery menu am I better off with a root shell prompt or failsafe graphic mode?
[01:10] <uhelp> What IRC channel would I join to chat with people in Florida?
[01:11] <qin> !loco
[01:11] <Corey> uhelp: Any of them. IRC is a global phenomenon. :-)
[01:11] <uhelp> Thank you I will check it out.
[01:12] <reisio> uhelp: I'm in Florida :)
[01:13] <daniel11> I have a root shell prompt. any advice on what to do now? or where to start looking for the problem?
[01:13] <uhelp> reisio, I remember you --- but I don't remember where --- only that you sold your google maps vehicle.  (The channel is #ubuntu-us-fl by the way)
[01:13] <Malgorath> Do AMD/ATI video cards still not perform well in ubuntu/linux?
[01:14] <Malgorath> Compared to NVIDIA I mean.
[01:14] <uhelp> reisio, I am now in Florida getting Medical Marijuana on the ballot at 2501 Bristol Drive B5 West Palm Beach, FL 33409
[01:14] <Malgorath> ewe political issues
[01:15] <daniel11> anyone?
[01:15] <netlar> Malgorath: I have AMD it works pretty good most of the time
[01:15] <uhelp> Malgorath, we don't think of it as political ... we think of it as getting politics out of a doctor-patient decision
[01:15] <Malgorath> daniel11: did you do a minimal install?
[01:15] <reisio> uhelp: heh
[01:16] <daniel11> no, full install. my computer freezes during startup and the x server does weird things. not sure what the problem is. but I have a root shell now.
[01:16] <reisio> uhelp: he might have meant that getting it decriminalized is political :p
[01:16] <Malgorath> daniel11: check dmesg and logs to see if there are errors
[01:17] <Malgorath> reisio: that and its a very OT thing to bring up. I know when I see it the troll in me starts to stir
[01:17] <reisio> huh?
[01:17] <Malgorath> netlar: I was wondering, I have a box I'm working on with a 7870 in it and was wondering if its time to ditch windows 8
[01:18] <netlar> I have a 7750 card
[01:18] <netlar> Malgorath: Not into video games
[01:18] <Malgorath> reisio: its nothing to burn cycles on, just I am against medical versions of anything, make it legal or just let it go
[01:18] <hewhomust> Malgorath: If you don't do any serious video editing it should be k
[01:18] <reisio> some people like stepping stones
[01:19] <Malgorath> netlar: I have a windows 7 gaming laptop I use for games. This box was meant to be just pure fun
[01:19] <hewhomust> Malgorath: It's still slightly slower than windows
[01:19] <hewhomust> I'm using a hd 7950
[01:19] <Malgorath> hewhomust: I have a mac pro tower dual processor for video editing
[01:19] <hewhomust> nice
[01:20] <hewhomust> it should run nicely then
[01:20] <dhia> hey hey
[01:20] <Malgorath> I have to many computers sitting in this office, 2 ACs just to keep it below 80
[01:20] <hewhomust> lol
[01:20] <hewhomust> dhia: hey
[01:20] <netlar> Malgorath: need to start your own server farm
[01:20] <dhia> i'm on an imac, so tell me dogs which one is better mac or linux
[01:21] <hewhomust> personal opinion
[01:21] <netlar> dhia: I have both. love both
[01:21] <hewhomust> or windows is better trollolol
[01:21] <dhia> netlar: true mac is linux in disguise dawg ?
[01:21] <reisio> dhia: linux
[01:22] <reisio> mac is bsd in disguise
[01:22] <Malgorath> dhia: depends honestly ... comparing a PC to a MAC is like comparing a honda to a BMW. depends on what you do to the honda to make it better.  And how often do you want to keep putting better in the honda, or do you want something everytime you turn the key it works
[01:22] <reisio> heavy, expensive disguise
[01:22] <netlar> dhia: uhh no, it is not open
[01:22] <hewhomust> linux is probably better because of the proprietary hardware
[01:22] <reisio> ...
[01:23] <hewhomust> that mac stuffs down users throats
[01:23] <Malgorath> btw OS X is based on BSD but MAC is hardware, which runs windows, OSX, and linux
[01:23] <reisio> worst convo ever
[01:23] <Malgorath> hewhomust: not really, you can opt to buy something else.
[01:23] <daniel11> thnks Malgorath. nothing unusual in the logs or dmesg, just my xorg log says that it cant find any screens. above which it says it isnt going to enable any screens because my nvidia adapter doesnt have its power cables attached. the fuck? anyone heard of this problem before?
[01:23] <daniel11> resio: yes.
[01:23] <hewhomust> still linux or windows is significantly easier to build a custom pc
[01:24] <reisio> daniel11: r, e, i, TAB
[01:24] <hewhomust> unless you go hackintosh
[01:24] <netlar> As I see it , biggest issue I have with Linux is that not enough software companies write softwear for it
[01:24] <reisio> netlar: how does that bother you?
[01:24] <tigrang> Is there a way to focus multiple windows progamatically at once. Currently I'm doing wmctrl -a in a loop, but I'd like all the windows to unminimize at once
[01:25] <reisio> tigrang: that isn't at once enough for you?
[01:25] <hewhomust> netlar: I don't really do anything that proprietary software is significantly better for
[01:25] <Malgorath> hewhomust: again, depends on more factors then just which is gud, its about reliablility. Also not many PCs I see come with 3 year protection that mac comes with
[01:25] <netlar> reisio: There are some titles that I would love to see on Linux, but have to use mac or even windoze to use
[01:25] <reisio> netlar: for example?
[01:25] <tigrang> reisio: I can see the first window raise, then the next, then the next with a delay - I'd like all to raise at the same time, if possible
[01:25] <netlar> Well, Intuit has tax sofware and quicken that i rely on
[01:25] <hewhomust> Malgorath: yeah macs does win in some areas
[01:26] <reisio> netlar: Unixland has alternatives to those that you could rely on instead
[01:26] <netlar> And no photoshop
[01:26] <reisio> has alternatives to that as well
[01:26] <netlar> reisio: I really do love gnucash, except for the reports
[01:26] <reisio> tigrang: there's a command or two for running commands simultaneously
[01:26] <reisio> tigrang: I forget its name
[01:26] <hewhomust> netlar: gimp but thats debatable as to how good it is compared to photoshop
[01:26] <Malgorath> hewhomust: actually mac wins in more areas then its given credit for(I'm talking the whole package of OSX and MAC Hardware)  Such as most software coming out today can run on a 3 or 4 year old mac pro.  Plus mac is easier for non-tech users
[01:27] <reisio> hewhomust: not any more debatable than anything else
[01:27] <tigrang> reisio: i've tried using a ; as well as & between the commands, but in that case no window gets raised, wondering if there's another tool or some other way to go about this
[01:27] <reisio> tigrang: GNU parallel
[01:27] <netlar> reisio: Actually now tthat I think of it, it is only really those three titles
[01:28] <reisio> netlar: quicken & photoshop?
[01:28] <tigrang> reisio: thanks, ill try that
[01:28] <netlar> reisio: and proseries, from intuit
[01:28] <reisio> tigrang: if that doesn't work, you might look into devilspie / devilspie2
[01:28] <reisio> I think personally I'd try to make the parallel run work, though
[01:29] <reisio> netlar: so what's missing from gnucash?
[01:29] <mobile> hey all. this is my fstab entry for fstab.. but only root can access it. anyone how to make this allowed to all
[01:29] <mobile> sshfs#website.com:/opt/Music/ /home/luser/Music fuse -p4444 0 0
[01:29] <netlar> reisio: I know I am being pretty shallow, but they are not as pretty
[01:29] <Malgorath> hewhomust: good point is laptops. Windows laptop cost you maybe 400$ but its hardware gets dated in a year to where you have to upgrade to a new one. Where as a mac pro laptop (1100$) will stay usable for 3 to 5 years with an amazing warranty
[01:30] <reisio> mobile: probably user or gid options or the like
[01:30] <daniel11> I dont think my nvidia card *has* a power cord. why would that stop x starting and make me unable to get to tty?
[01:30] <reisio> netlar: pretty?
[01:30] <hewhomust> Malgorath: but isn't that an unfair comparison, for example any 1100 dollar laptop will last longer than a 400 dollar one
[01:30] <netlar> reisio: the gui and screens of some of the apps are not that polished
[01:30] <hewhomust> Malgorath: the warranty is true though
[01:30] <reisio> netlar: which ones?
[01:30] <netlar> reisio: I know the functionality is there, but I am used to pretty
[01:31] <netlar> reisio: gnucash for one
[01:31] <Malgorath> hewhomust: its not really unfair
[01:32] <Malgorath> hewhomust: both are used for word processing, web surfing, video chatings/watching
[01:32] <reisio> netlar: so gnucash isn't quicken, that's your complaint? :p
[01:32] <mobile> reisio: the guid of my server user or the user on the client.. server right, that makes more sense
[01:32] <reisio> or was there something else?
[01:32] <reisio> me, when I'm dealing with taxes
[01:32] <reisio> the only thing on my mind is being done
[01:33] <netlar> reisio: It is like being married to a pretty girl, then get devorced and marrying a girl who is a great cook and fun to be with but not nearly as pretty
[01:33] <reisio> so fix it :p
[01:33] <hewhomust> netlar: you could always modify it if you want lol but I would pick the other girl
[01:33] <reisio> if a few people paid a single developer as much as they pay for quicken, it would be however you want it to look by now
[01:33] <reisio> and the dev would be rich :p
[01:34] <reisio> so you wouldn't even have to pay that much
[01:34] <cmck193> where do i go to get help with wine?
[01:34] <netlar> reisio: That is something I think about, I would be so willing to pay for software on linux
[01:34] <reisio> cmck193: what kind of help?
[01:34] <Malgorath> reisio: have you seen that 48min youtube video, why linux sucks?
[01:34] <reisio> there's plenty of software to pay for, but it tends to be inferior
[01:34] <daniel11> I cant uninstall nvidia drivers because dpkg is locked. I cant restore my xorg settings because xorg.conf doesnt exist (only xorg.conf.failsafe). help?
[01:34] <moes> netlar, Then invest in moneydance
[01:34] <cmck193> reisio: I want to install rift.
[01:34] <reisio> pay a developer, have him make the software you think is imperfect to be perfect
[01:34] <netlar> Malgorath: I have seen that video
[01:35] <Malgorath> that guy has some really valid ideas.
[01:35] <reisio> cmck193: read the version links at http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=12482
[01:35] <mobile> says guid=500 not a recognised command in fstab
[01:35] <magdur> hey guys i have a problem about my computer, it is too hot when i use ubuntu on the other hand it is not too hot when i use windows, what can i do
[01:35] <reisio> mobile: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22sshfs%22%20%22fstab%22%20%22user%22
[01:35] <Enissay> What happened? my apache/php isnt working anymore after installing updates :(
[01:35] <reisio> magdur: define too hot
[01:35] <mobile> perfect thanks!
[01:36] <Malgorath> reisio: loved his talk about linux having to many splinter projects instead of a focus.  I always felt linux had to many cooks in to many different but very similar kitchens
[01:36] <daniel11> enissay: check your apache log files.
[01:36] <reisio> Malgorath: whose talk?
[01:36] <hewhomust> why linux sucks
[01:36] <Malgorath> reisio: the video, why linux sucks
[01:36] <reisio> mmm
[01:36] <netlar> moes: I would love to pay for gnucash if it meant they polished it up
[01:36] <cmck193> reisio: when i try to install required components with winetricks i get "wine cmd.exe /c echo '%ProgramFiles%' returned empty string
[01:36] <reisio> we don't have too many projects, we have exactly as many as are required
[01:36] <reisio> it is impossible for it to be otherwise
[01:36] <jrib> netlar: you can offer bounties for specific tasks you want done
[01:36] <reisio> free software is organic
[01:37] <its_steve> hello all......can someone help me with my grub please?   I've edited it to boot to windows by default....but it continues to boot to ubuntu 12.04 and when i choose to boot to windows, nothing happens.
[01:37] <magdur> :reisio warm
[01:37] <netlar> jrib serious?
[01:37] <jrib> netlar: sure
[01:37] <netlar> jrib: How does that work
[01:37] <daniel11> can anyone help me with my problem please? I cant uninstall nvidia drivers because dpkg is locked. I cant restore my xorg settings because xorg.conf doesnt exist (only xorg.conf.failsafe). help?
[01:37] <reisio> cmck193: talk to #winehq then
[01:37] <magdur> reisio: warm
[01:37] <reisio> magdur: warm
[01:37] <reisio> daniel11: do you have software center open? close it
[01:38] <daniel11> I have no xserver running. I certainly do not hve software center open.
[01:38] <hewhomust> magdur how old is your hardware?
[01:38] <etfb> Odd problem with LibreOffice in the last few versions of Ubuntu with Unity: the Alt+key menu keys don't work.  I press Alt+F and it doesn't open the File menu, for instance.  Anyone else seeing that?
[01:38] <Malgorath> reisio: I understand that, but that is also what keeps a lot of dev time all over the map. I think linus needs to rise up and rule the masses :D
[01:38] <magdur> just a year
[01:38] <magdur> ı take it last year
[01:38] <etfb> Works OK in Windows, and in Xubuntu with Xfce, so I think it's a Unity bug.
[01:38] <Enissay> daniel11, /var/log/apache2/error.log ?
[01:38] <daniel11> yes
[01:38] <Malgorath> daniel11: what type of video card do you have?
[01:39] <daniel11> nvidia something. 6500 probably.
[01:39] <daniel11> old one these days.
[01:39] <Malgorath> daniel11: was this after a fresh install of 13.04?
[01:39] <jrib> netlar: you basically, say I promise to give $X to person who implements Y.  You might want to check on gnucash mailing list about details (like if they have their own specific bounty program).  If not, there's probably some more general site like launchpad or something else where you can post your bounty
[01:39] <daniel11> enissay: sudo tail /var/log/apache2/error.log
[01:39] <daniel11> malgorath: fresh + 1 day
[01:40] <jrib> netlar: here you go: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Bounty_Program
[01:40] <Malgorath> daniel11: did it ever start up correctly?
[01:40] <netlar> jrib: I probably would not offer much more than $100, not sure how far that would go
[01:40] <Malgorath> netlar: you offer $100, 500 other people offer 100$, that motivates a dev team purdy fast :D
[01:40] <daniel11> yep, lots of times. the most recent thign I did was install the (tested) nvidia binary drivers for hardware acceleration. so I reckon that is what is cuaisng the problem starting x.
[01:40] <its_steve> hello all......can someone help me with my grub please?   I've edited it to boot to windows by default....but it continues to boot to ubuntu 12.04 and when i choose to boot to windows, nothing happens
[01:41] <Malgorath> daniel11: try to remove the binary driver
[01:41] <netlar> so is that like indiegogo
[01:41] <hewhomust> its_steve: What do you mean?
[01:41] <hewhomust> and where did you install grub
[01:41] <jrib> netlar: I'd hit up their mailing list about how you can help
[01:41] <daniel11> Malgorath: dpkg is locked. not sure how to unlock it to use apt-get.
[01:41] <its_steve> I can't boot to my win 2003 server .....dual boot system
[01:41] <netlar> jrib: Thanks , good eye opener
[01:42] <Malgorath> daniel11:  ps aux | grep dpkg
[01:42] <daniel11> Malgorath: Umm just the ps process itself.  PM me.
[01:44] <magdur> @hewhomust average %5
[01:44] <Malgorath> Enissay: you probably disabled .php files in an httpd.conf file(or sub file)
[01:44] <its_steve> installed win 2003 first..then ubuntu with the live cd
[01:44] <hewhomust> magdur: Thats weird the hardware doesn't seem to be taxed too much
[01:45] <hewhomust> magdur: are you sure its not just psychological
[01:45] <Malgorath> its_steve: have you tried fix-boot? its pretty good at fixing grub boo boos
[01:45] <icedwater> Hi! I'm trying to log in on my desktop (12.04 LTS) but it keeps redirecting me to a login screen. Any idea what I should do?
[01:45] <its_steve> Malgorath.....nope, never heard of it...I'll look it up
[01:46] <Malgorath> its fixed a few grub issues for me.
[01:46] <reisio> Malgorath: he couldn't if he wanted to
[01:46] <icedwater> It has to be an issue with X since my consoles are fine. They weren't before though, so it's probably not *just* an X thing.
[01:46] <daniel11> Malgorath - the first thing I did was copy a huge bunch of old files onto the drive for safekeeping. and configured a bunch of stuff relating to network shares. if theres any way to brute-force removal of nvidia drivers from the recovery root terminal I'd rather do that. besides, this exact thing happened two years ago and I havent touched ubuntu since. if I go down that route, I dont know if I'll be able to persuade myself to..
[01:46] <Malgorath> its_steve: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[01:47] <cmck193> how would i go about a complete reinstall of iwne
[01:47] <its_steve> tyvm Malgorath
[01:47] <Malgorath> daniel11: let my test my google-fu and see what I can find for you, I know I had something like that once, but it was in gentoo
[01:47] <daniel11> thanks Malgorath :-)
[01:48] <daniel11> cmck193: I dont know much about wine, but i've been really impressed by the framework and support offered by playonlinux / playonmac. I'd look into doing whatever it is you're trying to do with them instead.
[01:48] <Malgorath> daniel11: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37590/nvidia-drivers-not-working-after-upgrade-why-can-i-only-see-terminal
[01:48] <cmck193> join #playonlinux
[01:49] <Malgorath> cmck193: what are you trying to do in wine? sorry I missed what you said
[01:49] <Enissay> Malgorath, what files exactly so i'll check them
[01:49] <Malgorath> daniel11: looks like from recovery prompt you type apt-get remove --purge nvidia-current
[01:49] <Enissay> I already checked files I modified before, and everything seems to be okay
[01:50] <cmck193> Malgorath: i'm trying to install rift.  following the directions on winehq to install required components i get "wine cmd.exe /c echo '%ProgramFiles%' returned empty string
[01:50] <cmck193> "
[01:50] <cmck193> Malgorath: not sure what i did there.
[01:50] <Malgorath> Enissay: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP and just double check your steps in there to see if anythign doesn't match
[01:50] <icedwater> Fixed, it was permissions on .Xauthority. Thanks, askubuntu.com
[01:51] <Malgorath> cmck193: isn't its echo '%Program Files%'
[01:51] <icedwater> Odd that it seemed to mangle my font sizes in the console too though.
[01:51] <Malgorath> cmck193: pretty sure there is a space in there
[01:51] <Malgorath> might need '%Program\ Files%'
[01:52] <Malgorath> cmck193: btw that command is to just show you the path to C:\Program Files\
[01:52] <cmck193> but it doesn't start winetricks
[01:54] <Malgorath> cmck193: perhaps you don't need to install anything
[01:54] <Malgorath> cmck193: you can also run winetricks from CLI on your own and install what you need
[01:54] <cmck193> ok?  the rift installer will not work
[01:55] <Malgorath> cmck193: whats it a gold or platinum rating on winehq?
[01:56] <Gabboz> Hi.
[01:56] <Malgorath> and the 'installer wont work' is just a lazy way of looking at it, run the command from CLI and see what the error is, sometimes it says things like "Needs vcreditinst.exe" or some crazy thing like that and you use winetricks to install it
[01:56] <Malgorath> Hello Gabboz
[01:56] <Gabboz> I have a PC which has a flaky on-board VGA.  What .iso would I go for to have a completely text-mode installer?  I want this PC to run as a file server.  BTW, 12.04 is preferred.  Thanks.
[01:56] <tigrang> reisio: neither seem like they'd work, thanks tho
[01:56] <reisio> tigrang: neither what?
[01:57] <cmck193> gold
[01:57] <Malgorath> cmck193: have you looved at http://forums.riftgame.com/game-discussions/rift-guides-strategies/technical-guides/91513-guide-installing-rift-linux-ubuntu-10-10-winetricks.html
[01:57] <tigrang> reisio: parallel or devilspie
[01:57] <reisio> tigrang: lies!
[01:57] <Malgorath> cmck193: er have you looked at...
[01:57] <tigrang> reisio: well parallel with wmctrl I know doesnt work, tried it, but too lazy at this point to try devilspie :P
[01:57] <cmck193> Malgorath: i'm running 13.04 will the 10.10 still work?
[01:58] <Malgorath> cmck193: lot of the 'old' posts have a lot of relivant info
[01:58] <reisio> tigrang: either parallel works at all or it doesn't
[01:58] <reisio> wmctrl shouldn't be a factor
[01:59] <tigrang> reisio: wel this is what my script generated and ran: parallel --gnu wmctrl -i -a {1} ::: 0x00e00003 ::: 0x01000021 ::: 0x01c00007 ::: 0x03400005 ::: 0x0360002d ::: 0x038000a0 ::: 0x03c00003 ::: 0x0340046d
[02:00] <tigrang> reisio: and no window raised
[02:00] <reisio> tigrang: mmm, maybe try using at
[02:00] <magdur> i m sure that because when i use windows, my computer is colder than installed ubuntu
[02:01] <reisio> magdur: how're you sure
[02:02] <magdur> i touch my computer and i check it is warm
[02:02] <tigrang> reisio: isnt that scheduling, how would that be used for this?
[02:02] <reisio> I'm afraid your hand is not a scientific instrument of measurement
[02:03] <reisio> tigrang: to make them happen simultaneously
[02:03] <reisio> alas, seems to have the same delay as parallel
[02:03] <magdur> i wish i compare to result of warm measurement
[02:03] <hewhomust> magdur: you should find a sensor monitor then check the temos
[02:03] <hewhomust> temps
[02:04] <magdur> how can ı ceck it ?
[02:04] <reisio> tigrang: some window manager do groups
[02:04] <somsip> !lm-sensors | magdur
[02:04] <magdur> sorry about that so i am a new user ubuntu
[02:04] <Ben64> sensors don't always return the same value on windows and linux
[02:05] <tigrang> reisio: so group those windows (I'd have to see if possible and how) then wmctrl on the parent window/group id?
[02:07] <magdur> while i install lm-sensors i take some warning
[02:08] <magdur> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Suggested packages:   fancontrol sensord read-edid i2c-tools The following NEW packages will be installed:   lm-sensors 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 432 not upgraded. Need to get 100 kB of archives. After this operation, 404 kB of additional disk space will be used. Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/universe l
[02:08] <magdur> Setting up lm-sensors (1:3.3.1-2ubuntu2) ... Processing triggers for ureadahead ... N: Ignoring file 'google-chrome.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension N: Ignoring file 'google-chrome.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[02:08] <magdur> what can i do now ?
[02:10] <magdur> are there here anyone for help me?
[02:11] <reisio> tigrang: sounds like a plan
[02:12] <tigrang> any tip on the window groups,having a hard time finding any info on that
[02:12] <Malgorath> tigrang: depends on your WM
[02:12] <tigrang> Malgorath: Gala
[02:13] <Malgorath> ... never used it.
[02:15] <goddard> how can I undo a delete from nautilus in a mounted drive
[02:15] <goddard> ?
[02:17] <Malgorath> look in the trash, but you left so meh
[02:17] <THE_GFR|WORK> Ubuntu 13.04 PPC won't work, bugged out with a reported bug, that sucks I wanted to try it
[02:18] <Malgorath> They Make a PPC version of 13.04?
[02:19] <somsip> THE_GFR|WORK: it seems to have been dying for a while and will be deprecated http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/07/ubuntu-ditching-powerpc-builds
[02:19] <somsip> s/deprecated/dropped
[02:23] <Q_Continuum> Attempting to install 12.04.2 LTS from the alternative ISO written to a flash drive, but they all keep coming out corrupt (thunderbird package) - even when the ISO is good.
[02:23] <Q_Continuum> (using the alternative one for FDE)
[02:24] <Q_Continuum> (Two flash drives so far, same package corrupt when the ISO checksum'd fine)
[02:24] <Malgorath> Q_Continuum: is it running out of space?
[02:24] <bdd_newbie> Is there a way to open a terminal window using another terminal command
[02:24] <Q_Continuum> 4GB and 16GB flash drives, 120GB SSD with nothing on it.
[02:24] <Q_Continuum> (told to use the whole disk)
[02:25] <somsip> bdd_newbie: just execute the terminal command with a &, eg urxvt & (yours may not be urxvt)
[02:25] <VarunVijayarghav> Hi, we are running ubuntu server 12.04
[02:25] <VarunVijayarghav> Is it safe to delete the /usr/share/fonts/truetype folder?
[02:25] <VarunVijayarghav> It's consuming the most space on the root partiition
[02:26] <reisio> neat
[02:26] <Malgorath> VarunVijayarghav: could always just rename it reboot and see
[02:26] <jrib> VarunVijayarghav: in general you shouldn't delete things managed by apt, but instead remove the packages you don't want
[02:26] <reisio> you shouldn't actually need any truetype fonts on a server install unless you're creating text of some kind
[02:26] <Q_Continuum> Downloading the ISO, MD5 tool and disk-writing utility on a different box since the only thing that isn't 'verified' is my desktop >.<
[02:26] <Q_Continuum> Ugh.
[02:27] <Q_Continuum> Just means another 45 minutes to install completion
[02:27] <Q_Continuum> ISO comes in fine but doesn't get written to USB flash drive fine.
[02:27] <bdd_newbie> somsip: i tried bash & it does not  really open another window
[02:27] <reisio> Q_Continuum: you use dd?
[02:27] <VarunVijayarghav> Thanks!
[02:27] <VarunVijayarghav> Will remove it using apt-get
[02:28] <somsip> bdd_newbie: try gnome-terminal &, if you're on a standard install
[02:29] <Q_Continuum> I used the pendrive linux installer to make the USB drive.
[02:30] <somsip> bdd_newbie: or echo $TERM if you're still getting nowhere, this will output the name of your terminal
[02:33] <KxTwo> hey guys maybe you can help me.  I am trying to download a torrent.  usually when I click on the link it opens up with transmission but now it is saying I need to choose a program?
[02:34] <Q_Continuum> So at this point its either my machine or Pendisk Linux's installer corrupting the write.  Testing on a different machine with a brand new flash drive with the same utility and a redownloaded MD5-passed ISO.
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> Q_Continuum, I missed you description, would you like to repaste it?
[02:36] <bdd_newbie> somsip: using ECHO $TERM outputs xterm , when I type xterm in my bash it transfers control to the other terminal and halts the current one...I want the current one to keep working
[02:36] <cynicist> Q_Continuum: I'd recommend using dd to write the iso to your usb flash drive (after being sure it is formatted fat32) using the command "sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX" where X is the letter of your usb drive (if you aren't sure you can find it using "df -h")
[02:37] <Q_Continuum> cynicist: I don't presently have a Linux-host machine to use dd from is the issue.
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> KxTwo, Choose transmission, or make sure it is a compatible torrent file.
[02:37] <Malgorath> bdd_newbie: use xterm &
[02:37] <Q_Continuum> Wait...I do. *sigh*
[02:37]  * Q_Continuum grabs the one machine that is presently dual-booting
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> Q_Continuum, You can keep the darma out if you want my help.
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> drama, lol
[02:37] <Q_Continuum> lol
[02:37] <cynicist> Q_Continuum: good, sometimes the gui installers do strange things
[02:37] <Q_Continuum> No just realizing I *do* have a Linux box handy
[02:38] <Q_Continuum> Don't use it often so didn't think about it
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> the sigh..etc is so irritating is all
[02:38] <KxTwo> wilee-nilee, when I click on choose program it just goes to my desktop and if i search for transmission it doesn't show up
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> KxTwo, Can you the open transmission and load it?
[02:39] <cynicist> KxTwo: what browser are you using?
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> KxTwo, I use deluge.
[02:39] <KxTwo> I'm using the default firefox, nothing has changed I have no idea why it is doing this, I dl torrents regularly
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> KxTwo, The are several types of torrents.
[02:40] <bdd_newbie> ohk xterm & does that can I at the same time make it execute another command , without manually going to the new terminal?
[02:40] <cynicist> KxTwo: you can go to edit > preferences > applications and set the magnet association to the torrent client you are using
[02:40] <cynicist> KxTwo: (or torrent if you are actually downloading torrent files)
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> could just be bogus as well
[02:41] <Q_Continuum> Grabbing ISO on this other machine, will take a moment, then will dd it to the drive.
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> Q_Continuum, Cool, dd works fine.
[02:41] <KxTwo> hmm interestingly enough cynicist there are no torrent files listed under applications
[02:41]  * Q_Continuum <3's 100Mbit fiber and his ISP hosting mirrors for anything worthwhile
[02:42] <KxTwo> wilee-nilee, I am sure tehre is but I am clickon ghte same thing I always do
[02:42] <cynicist> KxTwo: you don't see any mention of magnet or BitTorrent seed file?
[02:42] <KxTwo> no I don't I searched for torrent and magnet as well to be sure
[02:42] <KxTwo> wait
[02:42] <KxTwo> think i found it
[02:43] <KxTwo> im in the same boat
[02:43] <KxTwo> magnet is set to always ask
[02:43] <KxTwo> it just brings me to recently used and I cant figure out how to set it to transmission
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> KxTwo, Not sure I use deluge.
[02:44] <KxTwo> lol
[02:44] <cynicist> KxTwo: click on "use other" and navigate to /usr/bin/transmission
[02:44] <cynicist> KxTwo: err "/usr/bin/transmission-gtk", whichever
[02:44] <KxTwo> thank you cynicist I tried to search for transmission but to no avail
[02:44] <cynicist> KxTwo: yw :)
[02:45] <KxTwo> lets see if this work
[02:45] <bdd_newbie> Malgorath: I need to execute a bash script in a separate terminal window in my ruby program
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> !lol > KxTwo
[02:46] <Malgorath> bdd_newbie: xterm script.sh &
[02:46] <KxTwo> Oh lord, get over it.
[02:46] <bdd_newbie> ohk thank you lemme try
[02:47] <KxTwo> ok cynicist it seems to have worked, I am not sure why the settings were changed
[02:47] <KxTwo> I downloaded something a week or so ago and it was working as usual
[02:47] <cynicist> KxTwo: no idea myself, I'm glad the solution worked for you though
[02:48] <KxTwo> it was just the fact of never remembering how to navigate to a program.  I dont know why search didn't work but I am glad you helped me :)
[02:48] <KxTwo> Oh wait is smiling ok?  don't want to get scolded again.
[02:50] <bdd_newbie> Malgorath: it says no absolute path found for shell , Any ideas why :S?
[02:51] <Q_Continuum> cynicist: got written out 'immediately' (I'm writing it from a Fedora box) - I had mounted it.  Waiting for the write to actually complete now.  (Claimed 2.5 seconds for the whole ISO, 300MB/sec)
[02:51] <Malgorath> bdd_newbie: are you giving the full path name for xterm? try which xterm, be something like /usr/bin/xterm
[02:52] <Shadowandlight> sudo apt-get install gufw fails... any idea why?
[02:52] <bdd_newbie> Malgorath: its says no absolute path found for shell : <file path> , looks like it is because of the file path....which is correct...any special location where i need to store my batch files
[02:53] <Q_Continuum> Hm, should've used a drive that has a light.
[02:53] <LuckySMack> i am on a surface pro, I tried installing raring but it doesnt seem to work. how can I remove grub so it boots back into windows properly again. once I do that I want to start over.
[02:54] <qin> Q_Continuum: instead of light: iotop
[02:54] <Malgorath> bdd_newbie: tbh you shouldn't be running shell commands from inside ruby.
[02:54] <somsip> !info gufw | Shadowandlight
[02:55] <somsip> Shadowandlight: what error?
[02:56] <Q_Continuum> qin: Perfect, exactly what I couldn't remember the name of!  Showing ~2MB/sec every other poll.
[02:57] <Shadowandlight> http://anonymousmedia.org/paste/a6hkKb0t
[02:57] <Shadowandlight> privatepaste detected that as spam haha
[02:57] <Shadowandlight> somsip:
[02:59] <bdd_newbie> hmmm
[02:59] <somsip> Shadowandlight: and what happened when you ran apt-get update ?
[03:00] <Shadowandlight> ah its in ip problem
[03:00] <Shadowandlight> hmm werid, i setup static ip...
[03:00] <Shadowandlight> and its not working
[03:01] <Shadowandlight> https://privatepaste.com/d2163957b1
[03:02] <Shadowandlight> what i mess up?
[03:02] <Shadowandlight> it pings?
[03:02] <LuckySMack> is there an easy way to restore normal efi booting in windows after installing ubuntu?
[03:02] <Sparrow_> hi
[03:05] <Galgorth> Does ubuntu support 1920x1080 resolution? I'm using Virtualbox w/ Ubuntu 64 bit 12.04 and after installing guest additions I'm only able to get the resolution up to 1600x1200.
[03:08] <Q_Continuum> cynicist: I had the drive mounted when I started dd operation, it now appears to be complete via iotop but df still shows only 24K used and attempts to browse the drive are met with an I/O error (On Fedora in XFCE).
[03:09] <cynicist> Q_Continuum: unplug the drive and plug it back in
[03:10] <Q_Continuum> cynicist: And working.  Now to hope this write worked unlike the last two (albit those were from windows)
[03:10] <cynicist> Q_Continuum: DD has not yet failed me :)
[03:10] <Q_Continuum> :-D
[03:11] <daniel11> all back and working again. so a question about those nvidia binaries - does no one use them? or do y'all just put up with crappy hardware acceleration? :-P
[03:12] <Q_Continuum> cynicist: I had deleted the files that were on it (from the previous failed image) then did the dd operation.  Booting to it I get 'isolinux.bin missing or corrupt'
[03:12] <Q_Continuum> I'm gonna guess I screwed it up somehow. lol
[03:12] <cynicist> Q_Continuum: hmm, fortunately it is easy to test
[03:12] <Q_Continuum> plugged it back into the functional system
[03:13] <cynicist> Q_Continuum: format it as fat32 and try DD again, if that doesn't work I'd say you have a corrupt iso
[03:14] <Q_Continuum> cynicist: I md5sum'd it and it matched :-/
[03:14] <Q_Continuum> well...from what the mirror had for an md5
[03:15] <cynicist> Q_Continuum: I would try a different iso (downloaded using bittorrent is best for automatic file checking) and if that fails as well it could just be your flash drive having issues
[03:15] <Q_Continuum> cynicist: This is the second drive I've tried
[03:15] <Q_Continuum> anyway reformatting
[03:16] <cynicist> Q_Continuum: oh and be sure you are using "/dev/sdd" and not "/dev/sdd1"
[03:17] <Q_Continuum> cynicist: Oops that is probably what I did. lol
[03:18] <Q_Continuum> Well grabbing the torrent anyway
[03:18] <cynicist> Q_Continuum: believe me you aren't the only one, I remember spending an hour or two grabbing isos and testing my flash drive before I realized what I had done lol
[03:23] <Q_Continuum> cynicist: This time its actually writing it out instead of caching it to be flushed since I'm targeting /dev/sdb instead of /dev/sdb1
[03:24] <Q_Continuum> Should be much more useful
[03:28] <donphinney> I have a HP 2000 laptop that has an odd issue with Ubuntu desktop 64(and 32) as well as Lubuntu desktop 64(and 32) both normal install as well as alternate. after install the laptop display stay blank on reboot, but if you plug in an external monitor allow it time to detect the external display, then unplug it the laptop display comes on and works fine until next reboot...
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> donphinney, Have you tried a nomodeset boot to get in and check for graphic drivers after a update if needed in additional drivers
[03:32] <Q_Continuum> cynicist: Out of paranoia making this one check itself too.
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> donphinney, Not sure why you are having to do all that, but here is some info. http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201011-6700/
[03:33] <donphinney> Does not seem to need additional drivers, it detects the display fine after I plug in and external then unplug it.
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> donphinney, You are probably right, not sure of the issue though, has does the live cd go?
[03:35] <Q_Continuum> ...and verified good.  Starting install.
[03:35] <donphinney> live cd for normal desktop needs external monitor, and has same issue
[03:36] <drusepth> Hmm. Is "The 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install into /target/" a common error when installing the latest x64 desktop iso on a new (efi) laptop?
[03:36] <drusepth> laptop model is lenovo yoga 13
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> donphinney, I see this problem listed in these threads, maybe some info there. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=HP+2000
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> Q_Continuum, A smattering of applause for the effort. ;)
[03:38] <Q_Continuum> wilee-nilee: Thanks ;)
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> Q_Continuum, If anything we give moral support. ;)
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | drusepth have you looked here.
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> drusepth, More info, the UF and that mod is the best help, make a thread they will stop by. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[03:40] <mrdeb> yes uefi is my microsoft to stop linux install
[03:40] <mrdeb> by
[03:40] <donphinney> willee I have exhasted those options before I came to the chat room :-(
[03:40] <drusepth> Yes, I went through the steps there last night, wilee-nilee
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> mrdeb, Funny MS is the biggest contributer to the linux kernel.
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/04/linux-kernel-in-2011-15-million-total-lines-of-code-and-microsoft-is-a-top-contributor/
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> mrdeb, The anti OS does not really go well on any channel
[03:44] <pvl1> what app should i use to host/serv debs via apt
[03:45] <snufft> hey guys. i've just checked to see what disks are on my machine with ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid/ and it's given me 3 results. 2 of them start with dm-[number] and the other is sda1. what would the dm disks be for? swap?
[03:46] <pvl1> snufft: fdisk -l
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> snufft, What is your definition of discs, it seems you have it mixed with partitions?
[03:47] <irssi-mike> snufft: ls is listing the contents of your present working directory, not the disks themselves
[03:48] <snufft> pvl1: fdisk -l returns nothing
[03:48] <pvl1> snufft: sudo fdisk -l
[03:49] <irssi-mike> snufft: df -h
[03:49] <snufft> wilee-nilee: aside from swap, there are no other partitions on this machine that i'm aware of
[03:49] <pvl1> irssi-mike: think thats my fave :)
[03:49] <Shadowandlight> sudo apt-get install apache2-dev wont download?
[03:49] <snufft> irssi-mike: ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid/ is giving me dir of /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[03:49] <Shadowandlight> !info apache2-dev
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> snufft, Really no operating systems all unallocated
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> snufft, Pastebin sudo fdsik -l
[03:50] <snufft> wilee-nilee: sorry, swap and the os partition
[03:50] <snufft> pvl1: that's what I needed, thanks :)
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> sudo fdisk -l*
[03:50] <irssi-mike> snufft: oh, okay sorry
[03:51] <pvl1> snufft: no problem
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> snufft, Cool, it seems you are getting what you need.
[03:51] <pvl1> hey there wilee-nilee, found an awesome package for my little project. deborphan
[03:52] <irssi-mike> snufft: swapon -s
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> pvl1, Cool, that was a cutom ISO right?
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> custom*
[03:54] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: indeed!
[03:56] <hulu> helo everyone
[03:56] <hulu> why the gnome-terminal can't setup
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> !details | hulu
[04:00] <hulu> wilee-nilee: I have a problem with gnome-terminal. I'm running Ubuntu version 13.04. When I try to config the gnome-terminal the setup windows is gray
[04:01] <theadmin> hulu: Err... I'm not sure I understand the problem. Gray?
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> snufft: i hear someone recommend swapspace yesterday, maybe its also usefull for you?
[04:01] <hulu> theadmin: gray means can't config
[04:02] <pvl1> hulu: config how...
[04:02] <hulu> all config is gray
[04:02] <theadmin> hulu: Oh... Hm. Oddity. This is an odd suggestion, but run gnome-terminal from a terminal (another instance of gnome-terminal, or maybe xterm) and paste the output when it hangs
[04:03] <theadmin> hulu: Never mind, it doesn't produce any :/
[04:03] <anonee> hi, say added user1 to make daemon1 run before i login, user1 doesn't have a password by default, then later I added a password, and deleted that password again. is the user is still supposed to be able to run daemon1 before me or any user with gui logs into the system?
[04:04] <hulu> theadmin: no output
[04:04] <anonee> is the user still*
[04:04] <theadmin> anonee: The presence of a password shouldn't matter to Upstart.
[04:05] <anonee> thank you theadmin!
[04:05] <hulu> theadmin: i guess the .gconf User rights
[04:06] <hulu> theadmin: but when i change the owner to current user, still can't config
[04:06] <theadmin> hulu: Hm. Yes, those could be a problem...
[04:07] <theadmin> hulu: Also ~/.gnome and such.
[04:08] <pvl1> hulu: are you running dpkg-reconfigure, are you editing the config file... what do you mean config
[04:08] <theadmin> pvl1: (s)he means opening the preferences dialog.
[04:08] <anonee> what'
[04:08] <anonee> sorry, what's the meaning of thinClient?
[04:09] <theadmin> anonee: Eh. A machine whose sole purpose is to connect to another machine via some remote desktop thingy
[04:09] <hulu> theadmin: yes
[04:10] <pvl1> theadmin: thank you
[04:10] <pvl1> hulu: open a terminal, killall instances of gnome-terminal, and run it from terminal with debug option, and then open config
[04:10] <pvl1> hulu: or go dig through your logs
[04:11] <pvl1> hulu: less  /var/log/whateverTHEgnomeLOGfileIS
[04:11] <pvl1> anonee: passwords dont matter if root is telling the user what to do
[04:12] <theadmin> pvl1: Gnome-Terminal wouldn't log to /var/log, it requires root access to write to.
[04:12] <anonee> pvl1 thank you, now I understand more
[04:12] <hulu> pvl1: can't find /var/log/whateverTHEgnomeLOGfileIS
[04:12] <hulu> pvl1: how to run debug mode
[04:14] <bertogatti> hulu: gnome-terminal --gtk-debug=ALL
[04:14] <pvl1> im not running.... thanks bertogatti
[04:14] <bertogatti> hulu: I'm not sure
[04:15] <pvl1> i assumed gnome-terminal -V or -v or g or d
[04:15] <bertogatti> hulu: you can look through gnome-terminal --help-all
[04:16] <hulu> pvl1: thx
[04:16] <hulu> bertogatti: thx
[04:16] <hulu> let me try
[04:17] <anonee> thanks to all, bye bye.
[04:18] <hulu> pvl1: no any message
[04:18] <theblindowl> hi. please someone help me install a tar.gz program
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> theblindowl, you checked the repos first to see if you need the tar?
[04:19] <hulu> pvl1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5931448/
[04:19] <theadmin> I swear... why don't people get this... theblindowl: .tar.gz is an archive, it can contain absolutely anything.
[04:19] <bertogatti> theblindowl: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/softinstall.html
[04:21] <bertogatti> hulu: the window is blank for Edit > Profile Preferences, but does the same thing happen for other windows like Edit > Profiles, Terminal > Title, etc.?
[04:21] <theblindowl> brothers please write the command for me. this is where the file is : /home/theblindowl/Downloads/reaver-1.4.tar.gz
[04:21] <bertogatti> theblindowl: check out the link
[04:22] <theadmin> theblindowl: reaver is in the repositories. "sudo apt-get install reaver". And we're not your brothers.
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> reaver-1.4.tar.gz - reaver-wps - Reaver v1.4 - "Brute force attack ..."
[04:23] <pvl1> hulu: can you try running gnome-panel from terminal, and opening this config. if anything is output from terminal, pastebin please
[04:23] <theadmin> wilee-nilee: Eh. Security testing. Nothing wrong with that... Depends on how you use it, though.
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> theadmin, Yeah. ;)
[04:23] <theblindowl> theadmin,  I'm running ubuntu 12.04 brother. and i cannot find those packages you mentioned
[04:24] <theadmin> theblindowl: Oh, it indeed is not in Precise.
[04:24] <theadmin> theblindowl: You could search for a PPA. I have no idea what their tarball is. AND DON'T CALL ME BROTHER :/ It's offensive.
[04:24] <wilee-nilee> I hardly think our "brother has good intentions", they cannot even install it, security testing is super geekville
[04:24] <theblindowl> theadmin,  so what should i do bro
[04:25] <hulu> bertogatti: the Edit > Profile Preferences is gray, but the Terminal > Title can run
[04:25] <bertogatti> theblindowl: i repeat http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/softinstall.html
[04:25] <pvl1> theblindowl: start from the basics
[04:25] <hulu> pvl1: i havn't the gnome-panel
[04:26] <pvl1> theblindowl: http://bit.ly/14B4prJ
[04:26] <theblindowl> thanks brothers
[04:26] <wilee-nilee> bad pvl1 no soup for you. ;)
[04:26] <pvl1> hulu: im sorry i didnt understand. you havent the gnome panel?
[04:27] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: ;) gotta teach somehow right
[04:27] <theadmin> !google | pvl1
[04:27] <pvl1> :(
[04:27] <theblindowl> Sorry guys my english is bad
[04:27] <xmetal> alot of times a simple websearch (i use duckduckgo or startpage) would answer alot of the basic questions
[04:27] <hulu> pvl1: what's the gnome panel command
[04:27] <theadmin> pvl1: Also, although it's not a rule, URL shorteners are evil. You can usually tell what the link might be from looking at the URL, but with URL shorteners... who knows?
[04:28] <pvl1> hulu: oh oops gnome-terminal sorry
[04:28] <bertogatti> hulu: at worst you can always try Guake
[04:28] <pvl1> theadmin: fair enoughm i chose the second button to shorten so itd look pretty. i think im ocd
[04:28] <pvl1> theadmin: next time perhaps ill make it more obvious
[04:28] <pvl1> jk
[04:29] <xmetal> i (when using tinyurl's shortener) change the http://www.tinyurl/whatever to http://preview.tinyurl/whatever ... thisw way without any addons needed it will take you to the site that TELLS YOU where your going
[04:29] <xmetal> then you can click the link there to "go there"
[04:29] <hulu> bertogatti: what means Guake
[04:29] <theadmin> xmetal: Works with is.gd too: http://is.gd/blah to http://is.gd/blah+
[04:30] <xmetal> i fully understand not wanting to click a link, not knowing where it's going
[04:30] <bertogatti> bertogatti: another shell emulator
[04:30] <theadmin> xmetal: Err, - not +
[04:30] <bertogatti> *****hulu:
[04:32] <hulu> pvl1: let me try
[04:34] <bertogatti> hulu: I have to go, sorry i couldn't help, hope you solve your problem
[04:38] <rreed> My mouse won't register any changes from the default setting. After lowering the sensitivity and closing the Mouse Settings window, it resets every time. Any suggestions?
[04:39] <pvl1> resets after closing the window you mean?
[04:39] <holstein> rreed: so, it "registers" the settings? and resets them?
[04:39] <rreed> pvl1,  Yes, after I close the window, it resets.
[04:40] <rreed> holstein, It registers the settings if I raise it from default, but not when I lower it.
[04:40] <rreed> Was fixing to go try to edit my xorg.conf, but figured I'd check in here to see if anyone might have any other ideas.
[04:40] <pvl1> rreed: have you tried editing the config files for X (im pretty sure its X?)
[04:41] <pvl1> ;)
[04:41] <hulu> pvl1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5931479/
[04:41] <hulu> pvl1: i get this message
[04:41] <rreed> pvl1, At least I was headed in the right direction originally ;)
[04:41] <pvl1> rreed, i mean we CAN debug... but that could take god knows how long
[04:42] <holstein> hulu: what have you tried? all of those suggestions?
[04:42] <pentesterfdr> f
[04:42] <pvl1> hulu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-terminal
[04:44] <pvl1> hulu: as holstein said, try the suggestions in your message
[04:44] <hulu> pvl1: i have reconfig the gnome-termianl
[04:44] <holstein> hulu: have you tried all the other suggestions?
[04:44] <hulu> pvl1: i don't know how to do
[04:46] <outcoldman> just got my chromecast, it is awesome
[04:46] <holstein> hulu: you dont know how to do the suggestions from the output you gave? what are you having troube with?
[04:46] <pvl1> holstein: did the reconfig work
[04:46] <pvl1> holstein: their config windows for gnome-terminal comes up all grey
[04:47] <pvl1> hulu: did the reconfig work
[04:47] <hulu> holstein: i don't know how to do the suggestions
[04:47] <pvl1> outcoldman: how is it
[04:48] <holstein> hulu: what exactly do you not understand?
[04:49] <holstein> hulu: i would blow out the config first.. i also wouldnt hesitate to just install another terminal emulator
[04:50] <hulu> holstein: i don't know how to do
[04:50] <holstein> hulu: what do i suggest? try as a new user, then, if all is normal, you will know that the issue is in your user's /home
[04:51] <pvl1> holstein: does a dpkg-reconfigure wipe config files?
[04:51] <holstein> hulu: you have to say "i dont know how to follow step A" for example
[04:51] <holstein> pvl1: not sure...
[04:51] <outcoldman> pvl1, http://askubuntu.com/a/326233/169426
[04:52] <holstein> hulu: if you are saying, "i dont know how to follow the suggestions", im saying, read them... if you have a question about one, or need help interpreting one, past it here, and a volunteer can help
[04:52] <holstein> paste*
[04:56] <pvl1> outcoldman: how much was it
[04:56] <pvl1> and whats the quality on it
[04:56] <thunder1212> hi, i am enabling ufw and i have access to a network printer.. so will i allow an exception by sudo ufw allow 631/udp ?
[04:57] <holstein> thunder1212: if thats what the printer needs
[04:57] <thunder1212> holstein: how do i know? i assume the printer is accesed from port 631.
[04:58] <thunder1212> holstein: and does ufw really protect from hackers?
[04:58] <holstein> thunder1212: i wouldnt assume.. i would pull the firewall down, and test.. then you'll know the printer is working
[04:59] <holstein> thunder1212: you are likely behind a router, with a firewall, so does your system need one at home? you have to answer that
[04:59] <holstein> !firewall
[04:59] <holstein> !info gufw
[05:00] <holstein> thunder1212: ^^ thats a GUI frontend which should help.. but your printer could be on any port.. dont assume, consult the manufacturer
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | holstein
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> :p
[05:19] <Dresk|Laptop> Hey, so I'm switching over from Mandrake / Mageia, and the one BIG thing I loved about Mageia was drakxservices, the thing that listed everything that started at boot and had start / stop buttons and a checkbox for if it should start at boot - does Ubuntu have something similar?
[05:20] <santosh> How to get current brightness level of the screen?
[05:20] <theadmin> "Mandrake"... That's one I didn't hear in a while
[05:23] <santosh> programatically
[05:23] <murgero> Hey guys!
[05:23] <murgero> how is everyone?
[05:24] <babinlonston> I want to Open port Number 2812 and i need to acces it from remote ip how can i write iptables rules for this
[05:26] <ptuladhar> Seriously? username and password was compromised of ubuntuforums.org few days back??????
[05:26] <Someguy123> ptuladhar, a few days back?
[05:26] <Someguy123> it was nearly 2 weeks ago
[05:27] <ptuladhar> sad to hear that.
[05:28] <goddard> has anyone had luck using cross-fire with 7950's on ubuntu?
[05:28] <goddard> it seems to lock up on me when i try to use cross fire
[05:31] <YokoBR> hey guys, i'm using ubuntu 10.04, but i can't make vsftpd work...
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> YokoBR, desktop or server?
[05:32] <YokoBR> server
[05:32] <robertzaccour> Is there still an Ubuntu minimal install ISO?
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> YokoBR, I figured so.
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> robertzaccour, What release?
[05:33] <robertzaccour> wilee-nilee: current
[05:33] <wilee-nilee> robertzaccour, The minimal is still there now called alternative I believe.
[05:34] <wilee-nilee> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[05:34] <robertzaccour> wilee-nilee: I mean like it used to be where it opens with no GUI with the repos at your hands so I can install whatever DE I want without having to bother with leftovers from another DE
[05:34] <wilee-nilee> robertzaccour, Look at the link, that is what it is.
[05:35] <wilee-nilee> only the name has changed
[05:35] <theadmin> robertzaccour: The alternative downloads has a netinstall image. That's what you want.
[05:35] <YokoBR> vsftpd just won't work.  The version is 2.2.2, on Ubuntu 10.04
[05:35] <robertzaccour> theadmin: Oh ok thanks.
[05:36] <lgc> Hi, how can I bypass Unity?
[05:36] <asdasdasd> Hello friends and colleagues I would like to be friends and talk on the irc
[05:36] <wilee-nilee> lgc, What do you mean exactly?
[05:36] <asdasdasd> He mean dat u R da homsax
[05:37] <asdasdasd> I need halp wit my install uv debanto
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> !ot | asdasdasd
[05:37] <YokoBR> this is an off topic, but just to share because i'm so happy: today i've found my biological family on facebook. My biological sister, to be exact. Ok, sorry.
[05:37] <lgc> wilee-nilee: I mean having options, like something Gnome-like without having to uninstall Unity.
[05:38] <asdasdasd> unity is my favrte ice cream flabor of debanto
[05:38] <lgc> YokoBR: Really?
[05:38] <asdasdasd> yes
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Which gnome the gnome 3 desktop called the gnome-shell, or the fallback a pseudo gnome 2?
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> asdasdasd, This is not chat it is support, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:38] <theadmin> lgc: The closest to the old, traditional Ubuntu style is Xfce. You can install Xubuntu, or xubuntu-desktop from the repos. It's got exactly the same feel, but more functional
[05:39] <lgc> Gnome 3 is sort of Unity-like, for what I've heard. I suppose I want the pseudo-gnome thing.
[05:39] <YokoBR> lgc, really, i couldn't believe that. They've lived in 3, 4 different cities. And then i've found an user with the same surname... so i've found her :)
[05:39] <YokoBR> we chatted all day and shared photos
[05:39] <theadmin> lgc: There's also gnome-fallback-session but it became rather limited now
[05:39] <YokoBR> 27 yeas
[05:39] <lgc> YokoBR: Congrats.
[05:39] <YokoBR> years
[05:39] <YokoBR> thanks, lgc :)
[05:39] <robertzaccour> wilee-nilee: Can the alternate install install Ubuntu without a DE at all?
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> YokoBR, #ubuntu-offtopic please and congrats. ;)
[05:40] <Dresk|Laptop> Shameless repost, beccause I would deeply appreciate a response! :) Hey, so I'm switching over from Mandrake / Mageia, and the one BIG thing I loved about Mageia was drakxservices, the thing that listed everything that started at boot and had start / stop buttons and a checkbox for if it should start at boot - does Ubuntu have something similar?
[05:40] <theadmin> robertzaccour: No, it's just a text installer for the full Ubuntu setup, use the mini.iso (netinstall)
[05:40] <YokoBR> sorry, wilee-nilee, and thanks for the tip
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> robertzaccour, yeah, I believe it is the base without X if you add nothing
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> !nounity | lgc
[05:41] <robertzaccour> wilee-nilee: so would mini.iso or net installer be best for installing without a DE? I ask because I wanna install Mate on it without having another DE I don't want. Until Ubuntu has a Mate derivative that is.
[05:42] <vnc786> hello all !!! for last couple of months my dhcp service use to get start after boot (12.04 64bit) but last 2 days suddenly its is not getting at boot however tight now i have managed to start at boot by putting in /etc/network/if-up.d/
[05:42] <wilee-nilee> robertzaccour, I believe there are the same, the mini is now called the alternative.
[05:42] <wilee-nilee> they*
[05:42] <robertzaccour> wilee-nilee: oh ok thanks
[05:42] <lgc> theadmin, wilee-nilee, I'd like to try both, actually. Is it possible? Do I get to choose on the logon screen?
[05:42] <theadmin> lgc: Yup
[05:42] <wilee-nilee> the previous alternative was discontinued
[05:42] <vnc786> but was curious how it happened suddenly i have not update anything nor i have made any changes
[05:44] <sgo11> hi, is that possible to turn my socks proxy (ssh tunneling) to https proxy? I am using android sdk manager which only supports https proxy. thanks.
[05:44] <wilee-nilee> lgc, You can install both and there is a website that has meta lists for "some" of the desktops to remove any you don't want to keep
[05:44] <MarTrom> hi guys. having a lil trouble updating this system. its been in a box for a few months. running 12.04 LTS, it found 96 updates but getting 404 when trying to install em
[05:44] <theadmin> MarTrom: Maybe you should re-check for updates
[05:44] <lgc> wilee-nilee: I think I don't quite get the meta-list thing. Please explain.
[05:44] <theadmin> MarTrom: It may be trying to download old ones by some chance
[05:44] <gordonjcp> MarTrom: can you actually connect to the Internet?
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> lgc, see the playing around section for the meta lists. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[05:45] <theadmin> lgc: A metapackage is such a package that is empty, and it's sole purpose is to pull in other packages through dependencies
[05:45] <theadmin> lgc: ubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop are examples
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Basicall if you install a desktop there are packages that can't be removed by just running a apt-get remove, so you want the whole list called a meta list.
[05:46] <wilee-nilee> Doh, you got it the adamk
[05:46] <wilee-nilee> theadmin, ^^^
[05:46] <afflicto_> Hey guys. my gnome shell froze. I did ctrl+alt+f2 . how can I reset gnome shell?
[05:46] <afflicto_> not reset but restart. without restarting all my applications.
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> afflicto_, alt-fr-r from the desktop
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> sorry alt-f2-r
[05:47] <sgo11> afflicto_, can you run commands? or alt+f2?
[05:47] <MarTrom> gordonjcp, I am online right now from the system
[05:47] <afflicto_> ok thanks. turns out, I went back to GUI using ctlr+alt+f7 and it was automatically reset or something.
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> afflicto_, a restart from the desktop leaving all apps runing is alt-f2-r
[05:49] <lgc> theadmin: I can't find much of Xfce. In fact xubuntu-desktop doesn't seem to exist.
[05:50] <theadmin> lgc: ...huh?
[05:50] <theadmin> lgc: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:50] <theadmin> lgc: Or click: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/xubuntu-desktop
[05:50] <sgo11> hi, I can use ssh to create socks proxy. but now, I need https proxy. is that possible to turn my socks proxy to https proxy? thanks.
[05:52] <lgc> theadmin: Doesn't work. It doesn't seem to locate the package.
[05:52] <theadmin> lgc: ...What Ubuntu version is this?
[05:53] <lgc> theadmin: I just installed from a 12.04 CD.
[05:54] <theadmin> lgc: Okay. Hm. Install all updates and try again.
[05:54] <theadmin> lgc: The package lists may not be loaded yet
[05:54] <theadmin> lgc: Or just run sudo apt-get update
[05:54] <lgc> theadmin: I'll do the update first
[05:55] <Increase> Hello
[05:55] <Increase> Anyone here?
[05:55] <theadmin> Increase: Yup
[05:55] <Increase> Hey
[05:55] <Increase> I need help installing something
[05:55] <babinlonston> yes tell me
[05:55] <z8z> Increase: You see the list .... yes we are here+
[05:55] <theadmin> !details | Increase
[05:56] <Increase> Okay, I've got this download. I successfully extracted it and now when I sudo apt-get install or ./configure won't work
[05:56] <Increase> I can't cd to the folder on the desktop either
[05:56] <Increase> I've updated apt-get as well
[05:56] <theadmin> Increase: Is the software you're looking for in the repositories?
[05:57] <theadmin> Increase: If not, it won't work with apt
[05:57] <z8z> Increase: If you downloaded something you have to compile with configure unless is a binary or a package
[05:57] <Increase> I have no clue what the repositories is
[05:58] <theadmin> Increase: The Software Center?
[05:58] <z8z> Increase: Just a database of softwares
[05:58] <Increase> No, I'm not using the software center
[05:58] <z8z> to install stuff without you bother around downloading and installing... and also version is chosen by ubuntu team as the stable one
[05:59] <theadmin> Increase: Why not? It has a ton of software.
[05:59] <theadmin> Increase: And apt-get uses the same software database as the Software Centre, you can't just apt-get install a tarball anyway
[06:00] <Increase> I'm trying to get into network security and downloading reaver/aircrack-ng
[06:00] <Increase> First time using linux/ubuntu
[06:00] <Increase> Reaver isn't on the software center
[06:00] <z8z> Increase: you can add the repository and you have it too
[06:01] <theadmin> Increase: It is, at least on 13.04.
[06:01] <z8z> Increase: if you don't have in the list is because ubuntu team considered that unsafe or illegal
[06:01] <z8z> Increase: but still you can add specific repository and you have it
[06:01] <theadmin> z8z: Nah, they just can't add ALL the software to the database, after all, there's tons of it
[06:03] <lgc> theadmin: you were right. Upon updating it became aware of xubuntu-desktop.
[06:03] <z8z> well i can't  ever see any network attack tool in ubuntu repos
[06:03] <theadmin> lgc: Yay.
[06:03] <theadmin> z8z: aircrack-ng is. Reaver is, too, but only since Raring.
[06:04] <z8z> theadmin: ok probably became stable then
[06:04] <theadmin> z8z: Stability is not the issue, keeping track of thousands of pieces of software is :P And deciding whether their quality satisfies Ubuntu
[06:04] <lgc> by the way, I had trouble choosing the right keboard type. How can I do it again?
[06:04] <theadmin> lgc: Keyboard type? You mean Layout?
[06:05] <theadmin> s/L/l/
[06:05] <z8z> theadmin: yeah this is what i'm telling
[06:05] <lgc> theadmin: yep.
[06:05] <z8z> Increase: wanna save time? just install backtrack and you have everything you need
[06:05] <theadmin> lgc: Well, on Unity, System Settings -> Keyboard Layout, on Xfce, Applications -> Settings -> Settings Manager -> Keyboard.
[06:05] <qin> z8z
[06:06] <z8z> qin: What? :D
[06:07] <lgc> theadmin: It's not the same tool that configured it initially. It's quite limited, I think.
[06:07] <qin> z8z: from 10.10 you can include bt repos in ubuntu.... sorry strugle with pad
[06:07] <z8z> theadmin: can you tell me why ubuntu team consider normal quality a package like krusader?
[06:07] <theadmin> z8z: I don't see anything wrong with it.
[06:07] <z8z> qin: oh good ... didn't know that
[06:08] <z8z> theadmin: full of bugs
[06:08] <theadmin> z8z: Hm. I never used it. Midnight Commander ftw ;)
[06:08] <z8z> theadmin: well.... it also says is a beta but
[06:09] <z8z> theadmin: midnight as too few feature compared to krusader
[06:10] <z8z> theadmin: if just Jean (the developer) fix those remaining bugs the 2.4.0 version is best twin panel in the world
[06:11] <lgc> theadmin: do you know of any other tool for keyboard configuration?
[06:13] <theadmin> lgc: Uh. No, not really
[06:13] <theadmin> z8z: Hamsters.
[06:13] <lgc> theadmin: OK, thanks.
[06:13] <cappicard> good evening. I have 13.04 on my desktop. Every time I  try to plug in my xbox controller, I keep getting  "unable to enumerate USB device on port 2."
[06:13] <der_kleene> good morning
[06:14] <cappicard> it does initially detect my xbox controller, but then i get port disabled (emi)
[06:15] <z8z> theadmin: what is that?
[06:15] <theadmin> z8z: A kind of animal :D
[06:15] <z8z> theadmin: lol :D
[06:16] <z8z> theadmin: thanks for the tip :D
[06:17] <qin> hapster is closest to perpetum mobile we could get.
[06:17] <goddard> ok i have a trash folder on my mounted drive and i ran nautilus as root so of course i can't restore the trash items
[06:17] <goddard> how can i restore the trash items?
[06:18] <z8z> goddard: no way.... better to reinstall os
[06:19] <goddard> z8z: ? my os is fine
[06:19] <z8z> goddard: lol just kidding :D
[06:19] <z8z> goddard: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28639/how-do-i-restore-the-trash-icon-on-the-desktop
[06:20] <goddard> i dont want to restore the trash icon
[06:20] <z8z> goddard: oh sorry read just now what you exactly asked
[06:20] <goddard> i deleted files in "sudo nautilus" now I have a trash folder that has root permissions and I can't restore the files on my mounted drive that is not my main drive.
[06:21] <danny4way> how to update all apps on ubuntu?
[06:21] <goddard> danny4way: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:21] <danny4way> I don't think there is an option for updating on Software Manager
[06:21] <z8z> danny4way: sudo apt-get update -V
[06:21] <danny4way> Oh okay. Thanks guy
[06:21] <z8z> danny4way: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -V
[06:21] <danny4way> Because I am trying to update PlayonLinux
[06:21] <vnc786> hello all !!! for last couple of months my dhcp service use to get start after boot (12.04 64bit) but last 2 days suddenly its is not getting up at boot however right now i have managed to start at boot by putting in /etc/network/if-up.d/
[06:21] <z8z> danny4way: run both
[06:21] <vnc786> but was curious how it happened suddenly i have not update anything nor i have made any changes
[06:22] <danny4way> But by running those commands, will it show what apps are updated?
[06:22] <z8z> of course
[06:22] <danny4way> Oh oKay. Thanks z8z
[06:22] <z8z> danny4way: -V option stays for verbose
[06:23] <danny4way> I just did it but it doesn't require reboot. Does it?
[06:23] <z8z> danny4way: only if it updated system packages
[06:23] <z8z> danny4way: if in doubt just reboot
[06:23] <danny4way> no. Unfortunately, It doesn't work
[06:23] <sgo11> hi, I have given Socks Host in Network Proxy under "System Settings". and in terminal, set | grep -i proxy shows proxy variables are defined. but it doesn't work at all. all the connections I made do not go through the socks proxy. why? thanks.
[06:24] <danny4way> I just run sudo apt-get update.
[06:24] <danny4way> It doens'nt work
[06:24] <danny4way> But I will try your command.
[06:24] <danny4way> Hold on.
[06:24] <z8z> danny4way: what it says?
[06:24] <danny4way> I am not sure. I closed it.
[06:24] <z8z> goddard: why you would ever need to get something you putted in the trash?
[06:25] <danny4way> Because they have all those results about all links and stuff.
[06:25] <danny4way> So I got confused.
[06:25] <z8z> start->system->update manager
[06:25] <gordonjcp> goddard: first thing, don't do "sudo nautilus"
[06:26] <gordonjcp> goddard: where is this Trash directory you can't get rid of?
[06:26] <danny4way> And ?
[06:26] <danny4way> z8z
[06:26] <danny4way> I tried that before already. It just actually update ubuntu and other built in apps
[06:26] <danny4way> But I can't update apps like PlayonLinux or something like wine
[06:29] <danny4way> BTW, apt-get upgrade doesn't work
[06:29] <danny4way> It says E: Could not open lock file/var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[06:29] <babinlonston> Give me a iptables rules to open the port number 2812 both incoming and out going
[06:30] <danny4way> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[06:30] <danny4way> What to do?
[06:30] <danny4way> Anyone?
[06:30] <danny4way> I seriously need to update my app (PlayonLinux) to install windows app that I want.
[06:30] <gordonjcp> danny4way: what does the error message say?
[06:30] <danny4way> E: Could not open lock file/var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[06:31] <danny4way> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[06:31] <gordonjcp> okay
[06:31] <gordonjcp> break it down
[06:31] <peterrooney> danny4way: re-read the whole error message.
[06:31] <Myrtti> danny4way: sudo apt-get
[06:31] <danny4way> Oh. My bad
[06:31] <gordonjcp> Myrtti: if you just give people the answer they don't learn ;-)
[06:31] <danny4way> I didn't put sudo
[06:31] <gordonjcp> danny4way: the clue is the "are you root?"
[06:32] <danny4way> But still. Results come out with 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[06:32] <danny4way> What does that suppose to mean?  Doesn't that sudo apt-get upgrade command suppose to update my apps?
[06:32] <gordonjcp> danny4way: right, but only stuff that is packaged
[06:32] <danny4way> But still my "PlayonLinux" is still in same version.
[06:33] <gordonjcp> danny4way: where did you install this PlayonLinux from?
[06:33] <babinlonston> any one there
[06:33] <danny4way> I am not sure but it's either  by commands from terminal or software center
[06:34] <sgo11> anyone ever successfully configured system wide socks proxy? google search tells me no one is successful on this.
[06:34] <gordonjcp> danny4way: if there's an updated package available from whoever provides that, you could try installing that
[06:34] <gordonjcp> danny4way: if you install over the top of an older version, it will use the newer version
[06:34] <danny4way> Oh really?
[06:35] <danny4way> So if i do sudo apt-get install playonlinux again it will install newer version?
[06:35] <danny4way> Is that what you are saying?
[06:35] <gordonjcp> danny4way: if there's a newer version packaged for the distro you're using
[06:36] <danny4way> OH okay.
[06:36] <gordonjcp> ik.;/mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm##############################{}@~#####y6t
[06:36] <danny4way> I will do it again.
[06:36] <danny4way> Thank you. I will try it.
[06:36] <gordonjcp> ^^^ Suzie cat says hi
[06:36] <goddard> gordonjcp: its on my mounted drive
[06:36] <goddard> i dont want to get rid of it
[06:36] <gordonjcp> goddard: what are you trying to do with it?
[06:36] <gordonjcp> danny4way: what version do you have at the moment?
[06:37] <danny4way> 4.1.1
[06:37] <danny4way> But in order to install the program that I want, It has to be  4.2.1
[06:39] <gordonjcp> danny4way: well the one packaged is 4.0.14
[06:40] <danny4way> Oh. I will just look through it.
[06:40] <gordonjcp> danny4way: if there's a newer one on the author's website, packaged as a .deb for Ubuntu, then you can download and install that
[06:40] <danny4way> RIght now one app that I need seems to work fine
[06:40] <danny4way> It installed fine. But i am actually gonna install the one that I actually need.
[06:40] <danny4way> OH yeah.  I'm trying to make sure if this situation is supposed to work correctly: a daemon needs to access a partition mounted by "Storage Device Manager" before a user with a GUI logs in. the daemon has its own gid and uid?
[06:45] <voila> Can any one tell me what is the problem with this simple command for file in $(awk '{print $1}' k169bteq.txt) ; do cp /opt/datastage/uv/projects/scripts/TTU_Scripts/BTEQ/$file k169mock; done
[06:46] <StarOnD> Hello, I have ubuntu on one partition, I just installed ubuntu a slightly different verision on a 2nd partition from a live usb, but the 2nd ubuntu did not show up in the grub entry, what can i do ?
[06:48] <Cpt_Zyph> why dost ubuntu use SELinux?? is this a redhat only thing or ?? is it not needed in non fedora distros??
[06:49] <Increase> What do you do if the pcap library is not found?
[06:51] <ANub> hello!
[06:51] <vint59> hi
[06:52] <ANub> when i login to ubuntuforums.org.......my username as it appears has changed and "2" has been appended in the end. Furthermore all the activity / threads / posts by me are not visible in my profile....how can i fix it...?
[06:54] <sgo11> Hi, I only have socks proxy. but adt manager only supports https proxy for connections. what can I do? thanks.
[06:55] <sphero> welcome back
[06:57] <ANub> when i login to ubuntuforums.org.......my username as it appears has changed and "2" has been appended in the end. Furthermore all the activity / threads / posts by me are not visible in my profile....how can i fix it...?
[06:57] <sphero> i froze my ubuntu pc what do i do to fix
[06:57] <zipper>  /connect irc.spotchat.org
[06:58] <alfreddba> how to monit remote server from local browser
[06:58] <wilee-nilee> ANub, Closest channel to the forums is #ubuntuforums
[06:58] <alfreddba> am using monit
[06:58] <Increase> Anyone help with a make install?
[06:58] <Increase> I'm getting this problem http://pastebin.com/4xjqGaBm
[06:58] <sphero> ty for help
[06:59] <babinlonston> uff no one is helping.....
[06:59] <z8z> what do you need?
[06:59] <Myrtti> babinlonston: have you done any iptables rules on that machine earlier?
[06:59] <z8z> Increase: use admin privileges to install stuff
[07:00] <alfreddba> how to monit remote server from local browser..i installed monit in remote server and configured...how to monit remote server from local browser...pls help me...
[07:00] <babinlonston> Yes there some
[07:00] <z8z> Increase: put "sudo" in front of every command or "sudo su" and become permanent admin for that session
[07:01] <z8z> alfreddba: never used that
[07:01] <wilee-nilee> z8z, sudo su is a bad idea
[07:01] <z8z> alfreddba: but checking
[07:01] <z8z> wilee-nilee: just to do a make why not?
[07:01] <babinlonston> Myrtti: just i need to enable one port for incoming and outgoing for that port , and already there are some rules , then how can i add my new rules and get activated ..
[07:02] <wilee-nilee> z8z, sudo -i is used has to do with permissions, and if you advise that it should come with a warning. ;)
[07:03] <z8z> alfreddba: what happen when you try to connect from browser?
[07:03] <wilee-nilee> Increase, Whay are you not using the version in the repos?
[07:04] <Increase> What do you mean?
[07:04] <Myrtti> babinlonston: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/06/iptables-rules-examples/ seems to have some pointers
[07:04] <z8z> Increase: yeah still wondering why you don't use that from repos
[07:04] <babinlonston> k ill check
[07:04] <Increase> z8z, I don't know what that is
[07:04] <z8z> Increase: repos = repository = ubuntu software database
[07:05] <Increase> How do I use it?
[07:05] <Increase> First time ubuntu user
[07:05] <z8z> Increase: = software center
[07:05] <alfreddba> z8z:  unable to connect from 2812 port...
[07:05] <auronandace> !software | Increase
[07:05] <babinlonston> Myrtti: already i have the link and got no idea so what i came here
[07:05] <Increase> I search reaver in SC and I get nothing back
[07:05] <murli> Murli
[07:05] <Increase> !software
[07:06] <Myrtti> babinlonston: see example 5
[07:06] <auronandace> Increase: compiling is always a last resort (and anything you compile we can't really support you here with)
[07:06] <Myrtti> babinlonston: er, no, example 4
[07:06] <z8z> Increase: in the settings menu of software center go into repository area an check every repository is active
[07:07] <Increase> z8z, I don't see a settings button anywhere
[07:07] <z8z> Increase: like main universe restricted and multiverse
[07:07] <J-BBB> Hi, anyone know why me prerouting on ufw not work? -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5931784/ I get always ERROR: problem running ufw-init and nothing rule work.
[07:07] <babinlonston> k
[07:07] <auronandace> !pm | Increase
[07:08] <z8z> alfreddba: are you trying to connect to your home host?
[07:08] <z8z> Increase: find something about repository i don't remember the name
[07:08] <Increase> Is there anyway to turn off the join/disconnect messages?
[07:08] <z8z> Increase: i usually do everything from terminal
[07:09] <Increase> This is my first time using ubuntu
[07:09] <Increase> I don't really know what a lot of this stuff you guys are talking about is
[07:09] <z8z> auronandace: cause you probably didn't open your router or firewall port
[07:10] <Myrtti> Increase: top left corner, settings, hide JOINS/PARTS/QUITS
[07:10] <Myrtti> Increase: the little blue button
[07:10] <Increase> Myrtti thanks
[07:11] <Increase> Okay
[07:11] <Increase> Know that I can read finally
[07:11] <Increase> Now*
[07:11] <Increase> http://pastebin.com/4xjqGaBm
[07:11] <Increase> I got to make install and it gives me that
[07:12] <Myrtti> Increase: yeah, don't use make install
[07:12] <Myrtti> Increase: sudo apt-get install reaver
[07:13] <Myrtti> Increase: it will ask for a password, type your own. it will not show ** to obfuscate your password either, that's ok
[07:13] <Increase> Okay Myrtti, I did  that
[07:15] <Increase> But I don't have enough disk space
[07:15] <Increase> Yay!
[07:15] <root____3> hi
[07:16] <CiSeR> hi
[07:16] <J-BBB> hi
[07:16] <J-BBB> nobody know about prerouting and ufw?
[07:18] <Increase> So after something is installed, where do I go to run it?
[07:20] <alfreddba> z8z: connect from different host..
[07:20] <z8z> Increase: you should find in the start menu or type it from terminal
[07:20] <z8z> alfreddba: what do you mean? can you explain from where to where are you trying to connect?
[07:21] <Increase> z8z, I type reaver in terminal and it doesn't come up
[07:21] <Increase> Says it's installed when I run apt-get install reaver
[07:21] <weblife> I just finished a three part tutorial on how to get going with Node.js / MongoDB on Ubuntu and then deploy it to cloud services.  Could I get any interested parties to review it for fixes / ideas on how to improve it?  https://github.com/TheMindCompany/mongonode-app/blob/master/tutorial.pdf
[07:22] <z8z> type re and press tab
[07:22] <z8z> Increase: it will suggest all commands starting with those letters
[07:22] <sinkensabe> weblife: glorious
[07:22] <HypnotiX1> morning, is there any way to show the programs settings in the unity toolbar all the time, not just on hover
[07:23] <Increase> z8z it brings up the folder that was already on the desktop but not a program
[07:24] <weblife> @sinkensabe thank you
[07:24] <z8z> Increase: check if you can find into /usr/bin folder
[07:25] <alfreddba> z8z: my virtual server in tokyo..i installed monit in remote server and configured now am trying to connect that from localhost to port 2812 ..
[07:26] <z8z> alfreddba: is the service active?
[07:26] <z8z> alfreddba: you installed but maybe not started the service daemon
[07:26] <alfreddba> z8z: yes active...
[07:27] <z8z> alfreddba: did you check config file?
[07:27] <Myrtti> Increase: so did it install earlier when you did sudo apt-get install reaver? or were you out of disk space?
[07:27] <HypnotiX1> How can i show a programs settings all the time on the unity taskbar ?
[07:28] <Increase> Well, the first time I ran it, it said it would go over, but now when I run it, it says it's installed
[07:28] <Increase> Myrtti
[07:28] <alfreddba> z8z: ya its status fine in virtual server...but trying from local host its problem....
[07:29] <z8z> alfreddba: if doesn't work from local host is a problem
[07:29] <z8z> alfreddba: ah wait a minute
[07:29] <z8z> alfreddba: are you using virtual server not a cloud?
[07:29] <Increase> z8z Yes, it's in the usr/bin folder
[07:29] <alfreddba> z8z: with pleasure?
[07:30] <z8z> alfreddba: it can have some kernel issue about pcap package
[07:30] <z8z> alfreddba: need some extra parameter of configuration stuff to have it to work
[07:31] <z8z> alfreddba: virtual server are not pure emulated standalone machines
[07:31] <alfreddba> z8z: pls guide me...
[07:31] <z8z> alfreddba: dunno any extra details on that... maybe someon else knows how to fix
[07:32] <z8z> alfreddba: are you sure they don't have any other monitoring system preinstalled?
[07:33] <z8z> alfreddba: they usually put preinstalled and configured
[07:33] <z8z> Increase: so means you can just type front terminal and it runs
[07:33] <alfreddba> z8z:   no
[07:33] <alfreddba> z8z:   set httpd port 2812 and
[07:33] <alfreddba>    #use address localhost  # only accept connection from localhost
[07:33] <alfreddba>    #allow localhost        # allow localhost to connect to the server and
[07:33] <alfreddba>    allow admin:monit0123123 # require user 'admin' with password 'monit'
[07:33] <alfreddba>     allow @admin  # allow users of group 'monit' to connect (rw)
[07:33] <alfreddba>     allow @users readonly  # allow users of group 'users' to connect readonly
[07:33] <FloodBot1> alfreddba: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:34] <Increase> z8z what do I type into terminal?
[07:34] <alfreddba> z8z: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5931852/
[07:34] <z8z> the name of the executable file you saw inside /usr/bin folder
[07:35] <Increase> z8z it just says reaver
[07:35] <Increase> z8z How do I run it? Start reaver?
[07:35] <Increase> Or cd into it?
[07:36] <z8z> alfreddba: check if service port is open from remote using nmap
[07:37] <z8z> Increase: type "reaver" from terminal
[07:37] <alfreddba> z8z: ya checked 0nly 22 and 80 open how to open port 2812...pls guide me....
[07:38] <z8z> alfreddba: very strange that installation process didn't open it
[07:38] <z8z> alfreddba: usually it does
[07:38] <Increase> z8z Okay, thanks it worked! =D
[07:38] <z8z> Increase: good to know :)
[07:38] <z8z> alfreddba: first of all try if it's just about the firewall
[07:39] <z8z> alfreddba: just temporary disable it "sudo ufw disable"
[07:39] <Increase> z8z Do you sit in IRC a lot? I could see helping noobs out to get repitive. Lol
[07:40] <z8z> Increase: no just sometimes when i'm in very positive mood :D
[07:40] <alfreddba> z8z: actually iptable enabled..service i have checked ufw not working....only iptable installed...so how to enable the port 2812 in iptable...
[07:42] <z8z> alfreddba: -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 2812 -j ACCEPT
[07:43] <z8z> alfreddba: add this to iptables config file if you are not using ufw
[07:43] <z8z> alfreddba: anyway before i would make sure is about FW
[07:44] <z8z> alfreddba: just disabling it.... trying to connect and then open the port
[07:44] <babinlonston> Myrtti: Please Confirm Will this Work for me to Open the Specific ports what i have  mentioned here
[07:44] <babinlonston> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5931872/
[07:46] <z8z> babinlonston: that only accept packets when connection have already been established but doesn't open initial stage
[07:46] <babinlonston> oh
[07:47] <z8z> babinlonston: iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport HEREYOUPUTPORTNUMBER -j ACCEPT
[07:47] <z8z> babinlonston: this goes after those lines and not before
[07:48] <babinlonston> oh for after i need to use -i ?
[07:48] <babinlonston> sorry -I ?
[07:48] <babinlonston> okok
[07:49] <babinlonston> got it
[07:49] <Increase> z8z how long have you been on ubuntu?
[07:49] <Increase> You seem to know your shit
[07:50] <FroMaster> What's it called when you login to the shell and your put into a menu/cli script?
[07:50] <z8z> Increase: just 4 years
[07:50] <z8z> Increase: i'm really not a pro
[07:51] <z8z> Increase: I'm a pro developer
[07:51] <z8z> Increase: not system admin
[07:51] <alfreddba> z8z: i will try with iptable and come back...
[07:52] <z8z> alfreddba: are you living in Japan?
[07:52] <Increase> z8z What does a developer do? Did you go to school? I'm thinking about getting into the sys admin field
[07:52] <Myrtti> !offtopic | friendly reminder
[07:54] <z8z> Increase: there are many type of sysadmin but usually they are just pro on setting up systems and knows how to configure everything... also a good security knowledge and networking skills are required
[07:55] <Increase> Right on, well thanks for the help man. Really saved me from the retardation I was getting. Lol
[07:55] <z8z> Increase: devs just write code  and algorithms
[07:55] <z8z> Increase: np :)
[07:58] <Lope> I added this line to my fstab yesterday to auto mount my NTFS partition, then tested it with sudo mount -a, and it mounted perfectly. today after booting up, the dir where its supposed to be mounted is empty, and if I run sudo mount -a I get no errors, and the mount dir is still empty. UUID=AAABBBCCCDDDEEEFFF /home/bob/stuff ntfs rw,auto,users,exec,nls=utf8,umask=003,gid=1000,uid=1000    0   0
[08:00] <llutz> Lope: "mount | grep stuff"  does it show it as mounted?
[08:01] <Lope> it does show up... /dev/sda4 on /home/bob/stuff type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
[08:01] <llutz> Lope: so it is mounted
[08:01] <Lope> well, the folder is empty?
[08:02] <Lope> and theres loads of stuff on that partition
[08:02] <Lope> ls -lxua just gives me . and ..
[08:02] <llutz> Lope: ls -ld /home/bob/stuff
[08:02] <DJones> Lope: Have you obscured the UUID in the line you pasted above, the "AAABBBCCCDDDEEEFFF" Looks rather odd for the UUID
[08:03] <Lope> yes :)
[08:03] <llutz> Lope: df -h /home/bob/stuff
[08:03] <DJones> Lope: ok, thought it was just worth asking the question
[08:03] <Lope> drwxr-xr-x 2 bob bob 4096 Jul 30 12:29 /home/bob/stuff
[08:04] <raft> I can't type the characters "f" or "b" in my shell. I can type them in programs run from the shell and all other programs, but in the shell nothing happens when I enter them. What could possibly be causing this?
[08:04] <Lope> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on | /dev/sda4        30G   12G   17G  42% /home/bob/stuff
[08:04] <Lope> hmmm those numbers are wrong
[08:04] <al_nz1> Evening peoples
[08:04] <Lope> the that partition is supposed to be like 500GB or more
[08:05] <llutz> Lope: check it, "sudo parted -l", check UUID "sudo blkid"
[08:06] <al_nz1> how do I check the types of partitions on a non mounted disk? (so I can issue the correct mount command)
[08:07] <llutz> al_nz1: sudo parted -l
[08:07] <Lope> llutz: the UUID is correct (comparing sudo blkid and cat /etc/fstab )
[08:08] <al_nz1> thanks
[08:08] <llutz> Lope: but "df" shows wrong size? what does parted tell you as size for /dev/sda4?
[08:08] <Lope> I noticed the format of the first few UUIDs in my fstab file are different to the one I added.
[08:08] <Lope> the one I added has no punctuation, its all uppercase hexadecimal.
[08:09] <llutz> Lope: use UUIDs given by blkid to be sure
[08:09] <Lope> the ones that were generated by my install are lowercase, longer and have a few hyphens in them
[08:09] <Lope> llutz: yes using the one exactly given by blkid
[08:09] <Lope> do I not need quotes around it? (i have no quotes)
[08:09] <llutz> Lope: no
[08:10] <Lope> its just UUID=AAABBBCCCDDDEEEFFF /home/bob/stuff ntfs rw,auto,users,exec,nls=utf8,umask=003,gid=1000,uid=1000    0   0
[08:10] <llutz> Lope: looks fine (just umask=003 is odd, but...)
[08:10] <Lope> parted -l says its 654GB
[08:11] <Lope> whats umask? I copied it off an ubuntu answers webpage.
[08:11] <Lope> I just changed the uid and gid to equal the values given by the 'id
[08:11] <Lope> ' command
[08:11] <Lope> and of course the UUID and mount dir
[08:11] <llutz> Lope: your fstab-line contains "umask=003", that will cause the mount to be rwxrwxr-- (missing x for "o"), that's a bit... unusual
[08:11] <al_nz1> and, please, whats the best way to cp a bunch of data from one nix system to another? sftp or something?
[08:12] <Lope> llutz: is it possible that ubuntu is auto mounting my hard drive at bootup and there is a conflict?
[08:12] <al_nz1> I really want to copy the /mnt/disk/Baker to new folder
[08:12] <Lope> whats o?
[08:13] <llutz> Lope: "others"
[08:13] <Lope> what umask do you recommend?
[08:13] <llutz> Lope: "0002", depends on the usage (more users than just you? etc.pp)
[08:14] <Lope> just me. I want to be able to execute shell scripts etc on the partition?
[08:14] <llutz> Lope: if it is an internal drive, it shouldn't be mounted by the system. or is that a wubi-installation? there it might be different, i don't know
[08:14] <babinlonston> Will This allow the incoming and out coming for Specified Ports and how can i block all other requests in Single line http://paste.ubuntu.com/5931943/
[08:14] <Lope> its a huge data partition. I'm moving over from windows.
[08:15] <Lope> Well, what happens is when I boot up its not automatically mounted. but its shown in the file manager. if I click on the drive label, then it mounts.
[08:15] <Lope> the reason I added it to my fstab is I want it to auto-mount
[08:16] <Lope> without me having to go into the file manager to open it and make it mount that way.
[08:16] <Lope> it is an internal drive.
[08:17] <Supaplex> if a download url (2.2gb) has no torrent, can I create a torrent using a webseed, while not yet having the file locally? This wireless isp is the suck, but I have as many PCs for no extra cost. 1 download = 0.7mbit, but if I can bootstrap that, then I can fetch it with aria2c and local peer discovery just fine (it's worked for linux DVD torrents before etc).
[08:17] <llutz> Lope: well, it is mounted, as "mount" stated. but the difference in sizes is odd... you'd perform a fs-check in windows, then try again
[08:17] <Lope> hmm
[08:18] <Lope> can I unmount, then re-mount?
[08:18] <Lope> what is the command for that?
[08:18] <llutz> sudo umount /home/bob/stuff
[08:18] <llutz> sudo mount /home/bob/stuff
[08:18] <Supaplex> Lope: llutz assumes it's in your fstab (with all the right paramaters)
[08:19] <llutz> Supaplex: which he has, thats part of the problem
[08:19] <Supaplex> k. tiny screen here :) (scrollback's a pain)
[08:20] <Supaplex> Lope: sounds like noauto is in the fstab. remove it to mount at boot time.
[08:21] <llutz>  UUID=AAABBBCCCDDDEEEFFF /home/bob/stuff ntfs
[08:21] <llutz>                rw,auto,users,exec,nls=utf8,umask=003,gid=1000,uid=1000    0   0
[08:21] <llutz> Supaplex: ^^ that#s his fstab entry
[08:22] <Lope> Supaplex: it does have the flag auto. it does not have noauto
[08:23] <llutz> "auto" is default, you don't really need it. just make sure not to have "noauto" :) Lope
[08:23] <Lope> its just (UUID obfuscated, gid and uid are the same as what 'id' reports)   UUID=AAABBBCCCDDDEEEFFF /home/bob/stuff ntfs rw,auto,users,exec,nls=utf8,umask=003,gid=1000,uid=1000    0   0
[08:23] <Lope> how can I unmount it and then re-mount it?
[08:23] <llutz> sudo umount /home/bob/stuff Lope
[08:23] <llutz> sudo mount /home/bob/stuff Lope
[08:23] <Supaplex> I see that. I'd have to unravel the init.d scripts - maybe he needs a variant of ntfs, but if ntfs alone works (or something from /proc/filesystems is missing a kernel module), or it's really fuse related. Dunno.
[08:24] <Lope> you see, yesterday I added that line to my fstab, then ran sudo mount -a. and it mounted perfectly. today I booted up, and it says its mounted, but reported size is wrong, and the mount dir is empty.
[08:26] <Lope> weird ok so I tried sudo umount /home/bob/stuff and it said its not mounted
[08:26] <Supaplex> Lope: anything relevant in dmesg or /var/log/* ?  Was the filesystem cleanly unmounted? (may need either fsck, or real windows chkdsk) - throw anything interesting from dmesg/logs in a pastebin
[08:26] <Bisu[Shield]> damn, how drunk am I? jpg images animate? https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/480465_494004533947293_1746947633_n.jpg
[08:26] <Lope> so I ran sudo mount -a AGAIN. and it didn't give errors (it never has) now its mounted perfectly. really weird
[08:26] <Lope> Should I reboot and see what happens again?
[08:27] <Myrtti> Bisu[Shield]: myrtti@kengu:~$ file Downloads/480465_494004533947293_1746947633_n.jpg
[08:27] <Myrtti> Downloads/480465_494004533947293_1746947633_n.jpg: GIF image data, version 89a, 247 x 254
[08:27] <Bisu[Shield]> oh so I am not drunk...
[08:28] <alfreddba> z8z: i modified iptable...still unable to connect...from local browser...
[08:28] <Bisu[Shield]> Myrtti you saved my life
[08:28] <Supaplex> Bisu[Shield]: there is an unoffical jpeg animation spec - but mjpeg is generally the lazy route.
[08:28] <Bisu[Shield]> aaaaahh
[08:29] <Lope> Supaplex: the only interesting thing in /var/log/dmesg is: [    x.xxxxxxx]  sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 < sda4 >
[08:29] <Cpt_Zyph> hey guys i have tried it via virtual machine but that is not a strong test.. im wonder if the new search features on the uniity tray are really nice.. i have had some thoughts of switching from F19 over .. but dont known anyone that uses Ubuntu much at all
[08:29] <Lope> dunno why it has lt and gt around it.
[08:30] <Lope> okay I'll reboot and see what happens.
[08:33] <Linux_noob> okay, I've rebooted and I have the same situation as before. the mount dir is emtpy.
[08:33] <Linux_noob> okay, I ran sudo mount -a (no errors) but its not mounted.
[08:35] <Linux_noob> hmmm
[08:35] <Linux_noob> how do I figure out whats wrong :/
[08:36] <Lope> hehe, me again.
[08:38] <llutz> Lope: what kind of partition is /dev/sda4, is it a normal primary or an extended? (sudo parted -l    should tell you)
[08:38] <Lope> sudo mount -l shows /dev/sda5 on /home/bob/stuff type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096) [Stuff]
[08:39] <Lope> erm, i meant sda4
[08:39] <Lope> whats up with default_permissions ?
[08:40] <Lope> okay, well... its actually sda5 haha. i was obfuscating it. (since I'm a linux noob I dunno how much info is too much to share :) )
[08:40] <Lope> its in some kind of extended partition
[08:40] <Lope> I'll show a printout
[08:41] <llutz> Lope: stop obfuscating stuff, it makes helping harder
[08:41] <ballock> I need to trick apt/dpkg into thinking that already-installed package X provides package Y (for testing), so I modified /var/lib/dpkg/status, but it seems apt-get is still trying to install package Y. Is there another cache I need to update for apt?
[08:41] <Lope> Sorry
[08:42] <Lope> my partition listing http://pastebin.com/3MtCG9Lj
[08:43] <Lope> its the sda5 I want to mount.
[08:44] <llutz> Lope: "sudo blkid /dev/sda5"    is that the UUID your /etc/fstab entry contains?
[08:44] <Lope> yes 100% exactly
[08:44] <ikonia> ballock: you can't do that
[08:44] <ikonia> ballock: nor should you do that
[08:45] <ikonia> ballock: you should match dependencies correctly
[08:45] <ballock> I know I should not do that
[08:45] <TC|Laptop> Heh, not a common IRCer, but thought this might be the best place to ask: has anyone noticed this? http://www.instantasp.co.uk/Products/Influx/
[08:45] <ballock> but I don't want to rebuild the package with correct dependencies to verify this on my system
[08:45] <TC|Laptop> That logo looks *awfully* familiar...
[08:46] <Lope> perhaps I should use options different to my current options? UUID=ABCDEF /home/bob/stuff ntfs rw,auto,users,exec,nls=utf8,umask=003,gid=1000,uid=1000    0   0
[08:46] <ballock> ikonia: is there another database that gets considered for dpkg status by apt?
[08:46] <llutz> !ntfs | Lope
[08:46] <TC|Laptop> Does anyone here know who I should flick this off to? It looks mighty suspicously like trademark infringement (assuming the Ubuntu logo is in fact trademarked)
[08:47] <llutz> !ntfs-3g | Lope    these links should give you the options you need
[08:47] <ikonia> ballock: the internal binary one
[08:47] <ikonia> TC|Laptop: no-one, don't worry about it
[08:47] <ballock> I thought so, but I couldn't find it in /var/lib/apt
[08:47] <ballock> Is there a way to regenerate it?
[08:47] <ikonia> ballock: only with "factual" data
[08:48] <ballock> where is it?
[08:48] <TC|Laptop> *nodnod* All good, if it's not an issue then there's no worries, thought I should check anyway. Thanks for the heads up :)
[08:48] <ikonia> ballock: it's /var/lib/dpkg - somewhere like that, I don't remember off the top of my head
[08:49] <ballock> ikonia: can't find it there, there's just the list of available packages
[08:49] <ballock> no binary files, either
[08:50] <ikonia> ballock: it is around
[08:50] <ikonia> but you can't modify it
[08:50] <Supaplex> Lope: that's a good sign. sda ... is partition detection.
[08:51] <ballock> Tell me a reason I should not claim oracle-java7-jre provides sun-java6-jre in my current system.
[08:51] <ikonia> because it doesn't
[08:52] <Lope> i see ntfs-3g mentioned a lot, as being a requirement for RW. I've just got ntfs in my fstab. should I change it to ntfs-3g?
[08:52] <ballock> Ok, tell me a reason I should modify the jxplorer package to claim it also works with oracle-java7 without knowing it works there?
[08:52] <Lope> I'll try this example given in the ubuntu help page 'MountingWindowsPartitions': UUID=519CB82E5888AD0F  /media/Data  ntfs-3g  defaults,windows_names,locale=en_US.utf8  0 0
[08:52] <ikonia> ballock: it's up to you, do what you want
[08:53] <ballock> of course, I just wanted to know if it's my bad or if there is a binary db created of the status file, as I couldn't find it.
[08:53] <thunder1212> hi
[08:53] <ballock> thanks for that, though
[08:53] <ikonia> ballock: there is a binary file / db
[08:53] <ballock> I'll try strace on apt-get to find it
[08:54] <Lope> I see the ubuntu help page doesn't specify a uid or gid. does that mean it will be systemwide
[08:54] <thunder1212> holstein: there is a libpeerconnection.log file automatically created in my home directory why?
[08:56] <jony_easyrider> which is faster on an old PC: Ubuntu 10.04 or Lubuntu 12.04?
[08:56] <thunder1212> libpeerconnection.log
[08:56] <thunder1212> jony_easyrider: lubuntu12.04
[08:57] <Lope> sudo mount -l is showing that its mounted. but the folder is empty. maybe the NTFS partition is damaged.
[08:57] <Lope> is the linux NTFS driver a bit dodgy? is it recommended to write to a NTFS partition?
[08:57] <ikonia> Lope: hang on
[08:57] <ikonia> Lope: can you pastebin the output of the command "mount" please into a pastebin
[08:58] <Noskcaj> jony_easyrider, Lubuntu 13.04 is my recommendation
[08:58] <Lope> recently I used a VM from linux that was stored in a NTFS. the NTFS partition developed errors. next time I booted windows it found problems and deleted some of the VM files, moving them into a folder called found.000
[08:58] <thunder1212> libpeerconnection.log created in home why?
[08:58] <Lope> sure
[08:59] <Noskcaj> 10.04 isn't supported and it's very old, lubuntu didn't make an LTS in 12.04
[08:59] <llutz> thunder1212: chrome/chromium
[08:59] <thunder1212> llutz: ok thnx :)
[08:59] <ikonia> 10.04 still has server support
[09:00] <Lope> mount: http://pastebin.com/taRszb9i parted: http://pastebin.com/3MtCG9Lj
[09:01] <thunder1212> llutz: i am using ubuntu 12.04 and i have disabled all updates but if i want to update firefox then what to do?
[09:01] <Lope> thunder1212: sudo apt-get update
[09:02] <llutz> thunder1212: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:02] <Lope> then you need to upgrade, specifically the firefox package, somehow
[09:02] <ikonia> Lope: ok, so that ntfs partition is mounted using "fuser" which is the "ntfs-3g" component you whre talking about
[09:02] <thunder1212> Lope: but i do not want to update my whole system
[09:02] <thunder1212> llutz: ok got it
[09:02] <ikonia> Lope: so if you go into /home/bob/stuff is that directory empty ?
[09:02] <llutz> thunder1212: that will update the database and update firefox if there is an update
[09:03] <Lope> thunder1212: update doesn't update any programs, just your apt-database of what is available.
[09:03] <thunder1212> Lope: ok thnx:)
[09:03] <Lope> sudo apt-get upgrade will upgrade all your programs :)
[09:03] <Lope> yes its empty
[09:04] <Lope> (ikonia)
[09:04] <ikonia> Lope: ok, so that's as "honest" as it gets
[09:05] <Lope> but whats weird is yesterday it mounted fine, and earlier in this channel today after mounting and dismounting (with varied commands) it eventually mounted perfectly.
[09:05] <ikonia> Lope: it's mounted fine now
[09:05] <Lope> whats that command where you can see how much free space on your mounts?
[09:05] <Lope> then fine ain't good enough :p
[09:06] <Lope> cos I can't see the hundreds of GB of dirs and files :)
[09:06] <Lope> perhaps I need to boot windows again for a NTFS scan.
[09:06] <Lope> going forward am I going to have endless hassles using a NTFS partition for storing the bulk of my data?
[09:06] <ikonia> Lope: you should verify the partition within windows if possible.
[09:07] <Lope> should I just copy the data off and format that partition as EXTx?
[09:07] <Lope> I've pretty much had enough of windows.
[09:07] <ikonia> Lope: the ntfs kernel module is "usable" and quite mature, now so you should not have problems
[09:07] <shuxiong> Hi, is there any way to get debian package source in Ubuntu?
[09:07] <Lope> but I've not been able to completely get my dev environment sorted on linux yet. so I've not been able to work for the last 2 days.
[09:07] <llutz> Lope: less hassle, if you don't want to access the data from anythin != linux
[09:08] <shuxiong> I've added debian source repository in /etc/apt/source.list.
[09:08] <Lope> okay I'll reboot into windows and see what windows says.
[09:08] <shuxiong> and using apt-get source packageName -t unstable, but
[09:08] <shuxiong> The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources
[09:09] <Lope> I don't think using NTFS partition is very error free so far. within a handfull of mounts I've had at least 1 case of NTFS corruption.
[09:09] <HypnotiX1> anyone using sublime text here and can help me out for a second please?
[09:09] <Lope> okay. bbiaw. thank you for your help awesome people!
[09:09] <Lope> haha, pity I can't connect that partition to a windows VM and scan it that way :)
[09:09] <Lope> if it was USB I could.
[09:10]  * Lope puts on a rubber suit to go into windows
[09:10] <superjoe> hello. I played a game on wine and now I can no longer hear audio on my system
[09:10] <superjoe> how can I troubleshoot?
[09:13] <kimir> I am trying to send a patch using git imap-send on ubuntu 13.04 and I get error "SSL requested but SSL support not compiled in". Is there a git package WITH ssl?
[09:16] <ballock> ikonia: FYI the binary DB is in /var/cache/apt, but it's not considered authoritative, it's regenerated on each apt-get run (or so it seems); in my case it was not enough to change Provides: in /var/lib/dpkg/status, I needed to change the package version there, too. For some reason apt-get treats available packages more authoritatively than the status file.
[09:17] <ikonia> ballock: that seems very odd, but worth knowing, thank you
[09:17] <PeterGriffin> Postfix is sending to some misstyped version of my mail address, probably from a past failed configuration, even if I don't type a recipient address. When it happens it I get error report from the mail server thet the recipient does not exist.
[09:17] <ballock> ikonia: and jxplorer seems to work with Oracle's Java7, so perhaps we should update jxplorer package with that data
[09:18] <ikonia> ballock: you can request a change to the package via launchpad.net
[09:18] <ikonia> PeterGriffin: postfix doesn't send mail addresses, the mail client does
[09:19] <PeterGriffin> ikonia: Do you mean I have to check the config of mutt?
[09:19] <ikonia> PeterGriffin: if that's what's sending the mail, yes
[09:19] <ballock> ikonia: can do, though the package is in universe, so I guess I should head to Debian guys?
[09:20] <ikonia> ballock: depends if it's just a clean port from debian to ubuntu or if ubuntu guys rebuild it
[09:20] <ikonia> ballock: maybe worth to do it via launchpad and feed back to ubuntu->debian in the correct order
[09:20] <ikonia> rather than jumping straight to upstream
[09:23] <Tee_Pee> hello
[09:23] <Tee_Pee> quick question - I am having issues with the ssh agent. ssh-add -l gives me "the agent has no identities"
[09:24] <Tee_Pee> How can I find / load the ssh keys into it?
[09:24] <Tee_Pee> fresh install of ubuntu 13.04
[09:25] <nantou> i extracted video files from an iso copy. I can access the files and play em ,but they all have a lock on them. what does that mean?
[09:28] <elvis_> hi
[09:28] <krz> hi
[09:28] <elvis_> i need  a help
[09:29] <krz> is it normal that postgres doesnt start automatically when i boot my machine?
[09:29] <elvis_> i have just installed wicd
[09:29] <krz> everytime i boot i need to do sudo service postgres restart, just to get it up and running
[09:29] <elvis_> and when i start wicd
[09:29] <mudkip908> nantou: It means they're readonly.
[09:30] <elvis_> i must write a password
[09:30] <nantou> mudkip908, so I cant copy em? mux em?
[09:30] <elvis_> what password i'll write
[09:30] <jony_easyrider> Noskcaj, lubuntu 13.04 is at the final state or only the 12.04 is?
[09:30] <mudkip908> nantou: You can copy them, but you cant edit them.
[09:30] <rhythmx> http://codepad.org/wOxywDD3 -- having trouble linking this in ubuntu, undefined reference to SHA512_Init
[09:30] <mudkip908> nantou: right click on one of the files and go to Properties, then Permissions.
[09:30] <rhythmx> readelf -s clearly shows that the symbol is in libcrypto
[09:31] <elvis_> does anyone help me
[09:31] <rhythmx> links in centos and arch, can't figure out why not in ubuntu
[09:31] <Noskcaj> jony_easyrider, Both are released, but only part of 12.04 is supported, and it's older
[09:31] <krz> anyone?
[09:31] <jony_easyrider> Noskcaj, so the 13.04 is fully functional and not is a beta?
[09:32] <mudkip908> rhythmx: Are you passing "-llibcrypto" to gcc?
[09:32] <rhythmx> mudkip908: -lcrypto, yeah
[09:32] <elvis_>  i have a problem with wicd
[09:32] <Noskcaj> jony_easyrider, It's fully funtional. 13.04 means it was released in april
[09:33] <jony_easyrider> where can I find the transmission's executable to show it to the browser to "open with"?
[09:33] <mudkip908> rhythmx:  "openssl/sha.h: No such file or directory" Maybe you're missing a package?
[09:33] <rhythmx> thats in libssl-dev
[09:33] <nantou> ow ow, woww mudkip908 thanks!
[09:34] <rhythmx> it compiles fine, just errors on linking
[09:34] <rhythmx> it finds libcrypto.so just fine, and I can see that the SHA512 symbols are in that library via readelf
[09:34] <rhythmx> but something about the environment is different
[09:34] <hulu> pvl1: helo
[09:34] <jony_easyrider> Noskcaj, I asking this 'cause I used ubuntu 13.04, but it had some bugs and that was not an LTS and I gone back to 12.04
[09:35] <mudkip908> rhythmx: locate libcrypto.so and paste the output
[09:36] <hulu> pvl1: the libgconf-2-4 gconf_client_commit_change_set return 0 means what
[09:37] <dhaval2712> Hey can anybody help me install Barry, the Blackberry manager?
[09:37] <ZIPY> is it possible to open a luksencrypted partition in windows if its ntfs?
[09:37] <rhythmx> mudkip908: http://codepad.org/Wrqfrm8f
[09:37] <rhythmx> mudkip908: locate command is in the middle there
[09:39] <mudkip908> rhythmx: I have no idea why it doesn't link. Maybe try linking libcrypto.so to libcrypto.so.1.0.0 as a last resort
[09:39] <magdur> guys i have a problem can anyone help me ?
[09:40] <mudkip908> (i mea symlink)
[09:40] <rhythmx> mudkip908: yeah I tried that too :/ thanks for looking into it though
[09:41] <Noskcaj> !ask | magdur
[09:42] <magdur> my computer warm too much
[09:42] <nantou> can I change the permission settings for several files at the same time?
[09:42] <mudkip908> nantou: yes
[09:43] <nekdo> hello! how to i have to change system domain name on server, because i have some troubles with "recieved" in sendmail?
[09:43] <nantou> mudkip908, must it be terminal or is it enough with selecting the files in the GUI and right clicking em?
[09:43] <mudkip908> nantou: GUI works
[09:43] <nantou> ok
[09:43] <aneks> hey guys, does anyone know why vsftpd would give me this error message when I try to start it? http://pastebin.com/1Hp3N6ip
[09:44] <flipper88_fl> Nice to see ubuntu forums up again!
[09:44] <dhaval2712> What happened anyway?
[09:45] <Pricey> aneks: use sudo
[09:46] <magdur> my computer warm too much, what can i do
[09:46] <aneks> such an idiot :) thanks Pricey
[09:46] <Pricey> aneks: We all do it!
[09:47] <nekdo> how do i have to change system domain name (i have bought domain, but what to do now) on server?
[09:50] <skjoedt> Hi, I installed emesene last night as well as made an account for google talk in empathy. Then I uninstalled emesene but now I am getting gnome keyring prompts on system startup. There is nothing of such in my startup application preferences. How do I undo it?
[09:51] <skjoedt> When I search google people are often referring to seahorse, but I can't find a way to disable it there.
[09:51] <sharpshooter> nekdo:  check this http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_domainname.htm
[09:52] <somsip> magdur: did you try lm-sensors as was suggested some hours ago?
[09:52] <xeonix> Any forum admin here?
[09:52] <rhythmx> mudkip908: fwiw, i just had to put -lcrypto after the .c file that needed it. never knew the option order mattered
[09:52] <somsip> xeonix: there will be, but #ubuntu-ops might be somewhere to ask depending on your query
[09:52] <mudkip908> rhythmx: wat
[09:52] <SuperLag> rhythmx: I think you might have better luck in #ubuntu-forums (I think that's the name of the channel)
[09:52] <mudkip908> rhythmx: Why would that make a difference?
[09:53] <SuperLag> rhythmx: sorry, that was meant for xeonix
[09:53] <rhythmx> SuperLag: problem solved, just thought i'd update
[09:54] <nekdo> sharpshooter i thought hostname... when i send mail with sendmail, I always get hostname on Recieved (when looking to email source) which I would like to change to something other, because it's annoying to send folks server info.
[09:55] <rhythmx> mudkip908: no idea why, never seen that before
[09:56] <hulu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5932225/
[09:56] <hulu> who can help me
[09:57] <hulu> The gnome-terminal perference dialog is gray
[09:57] <hulu> I'm using 13.04
[09:57] <magdur> somsip: actuaaly i try it but i take an error
[09:57] <somsip> magdur: and what is the error?
[09:59] <magdur> lm-sensors
[09:59] <magdur> Processing triggers for ureadahead ... ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot Setting up lm-sensors (1:3.3.1-2ubuntu2) ... Processing triggers for ureadahead ... N: Ignoring file 'google-chrome.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension N: Ignoring file 'google-chrome.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[10:01] <somsip> magdur: what version of ubuntu?
[10:02] <magdur> @somsip 12.10
[10:04] <krz> hi
[10:04] <krz> where do i find the logs for postgres? i need to know what is causing pgsql not to start when my OS boots
[10:04] <somsip> magdur: well, that's justa warning and there are workarounds that can be found by searching (http://is.gd/o7y30z). So did lm-sensors install in the end?
[10:04] <somsip> krz: Try /var/log/postgres/ (guess)
[10:06] <magdur> somsip yes it was and
[10:08] <BrixSat> Hello how do i destroy logic volumes?
[10:08] <FourFire> Hello
[10:08] <BrixSat> i want to wipe all logic volumes and things shown by pvscan and lvdisplay
[10:09] <FourFire> when I run "sudo -s" in the terminal on 12.04 and am instructed to input my password the terminal refuses all input (I can't type anything)
[10:10] <mudkip908> FourFire: You can type. It just doesn't show the letters, that's a security measure.
[10:10] <k1l_> FourFire: it just doesnt show the password or *******. just type your password and press enter
[10:10] <FourFire> oh
[10:11] <FourFire> thanks :D
[10:12] <poppy> anyone know a command to make a launcher icon bounce?
[10:13] <poppy> i know about notify-send, but not how to make an icon bounce or wiggle
[10:14] <jago25_98> Do you find after a couple of apt-get upgrade(s) things start breaking?
[10:20] <xeonix> May I get some help with my acer 5755G overheating issue, tired of searching for a solution over google.
[10:22] <HypnotiX1> which is better to use photoshop, VM or wine ?
[10:23] <mudkip908> CS2 works well in wine
[10:23] <mudkip908> newer versions not so much
[10:23] <lunarjar> WWhich company makes the best linux compatible laptops that you can buy in UK?(except lenovo)
[10:23] <kwtm> How do I find which package a given file/program is in?  e.g. if I want to run Program1, do I install PackageOfProgramsA, or PackageOfProgramsB, etc.?  (I already know how to use "apt-file list pkgname" if I already know the package name, but I'm trying to find the package name, which is likely not yet installed)
[10:23] <poppy> found my answer here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/LauncherAPI
[10:30] <Dark_light> does the 13.10 alpha already run on mir ?
[10:31] <guest8879> Hello. Is there a way to delete a UbuntuForums.org account created before the recent hackers attack, without creating a new account on UbuntuOne as requested by the new login procedure? I didn't find contact information on UbuntuForums.org and don't want to create a new account when I want to delete the old one. Thank you.
[10:32] <k1l_> guest8879: ask in #ubuntuforums
[10:32] <guest8879> (the creation of a new account would be to post this question there, and I want to avoid it)
[10:33] <guest8879> thanks a lot k1l_
[10:33] <guest8879> have a nice day.
[10:33] <k1l_> you too
[10:35] <guest8879> I already entered #ubuntuforums before #ubuntu but the header says that it's not for support
[10:36] <guest8879> and "For username issues, post in http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=123" but it requires an account :-)
[10:38] <jrib> guest8879: not for ubuntu support, but you should discuss forum related things there
[10:39] <guest8879> Got it. I'll do it, thanks.
[10:39] <guest8879> jrib: Have a nice day.
[10:41] <caopengfei> hi!
[10:42] <dongyue> hello
[10:43] <caopengfei> is there somepeople has the local ip number?
[10:46] <arash> hi , I'd like to install a .run file , how can I do It ?
[10:46] <somsip> arash: chmod +x file.run; ./file.run (usually)
[10:47] <Asch> Hello. What's the ideal size for a /boot partition?
[10:47] <arash> thanks
[10:47] <arash> worked
[10:47] <dongyue> 150M
[10:48] <arash> forgot to make It executable
[10:49] <Asch> dongyue: mine is 100Mb big. I can boot, but I'm unable to update kernellinux-headers and other packages. Would a simple resize do the trick?
[10:49] <somsip> Asch: resize or delete unused, old kernels
[10:50] <Asch> somsip: Can I just clean the partition and run software updater?
[10:50] <Asch> somsip: Is there a way to make Ubuntu clean old kernels automatically?
[10:50] <somsip> Asch: clean? You can use the package manager to delete old, unused kernels, but if you go in and just delete stuff, expect problems
[10:51] <Asch> somsip:
[10:51] <Asch> somsip: ok, ty
[10:51] <PeterGriffin> What is the best practice for auto-mount network partition when the host is online?
[10:51] <somsip> Asch: there are various methods to remove old kernels. Eg: http://is.gd/HKIk7Y and http://is.gd/dgb9lA
[10:52] <somsip> Asch: you should understand what you are doing and not just blindly follow these instructions to make sure you don't render your system unusuable
[10:56] <client> Hello
[10:56] <joako537> Hi
[10:56] <UbuPhillup> hi
[10:57] <client> Can you tell me how to bypass the source code of a website that requires a password? I downloaded all the files, but when I view the source code, it redirects me to their www
[10:58] <Dr_willis> 'view' the source code in a text editor. not your browser perhaps
[10:58] <Dr_willis> then edit it.
[10:59] <mudkip908> client: when you try to view the source code of the website, or the files?
[11:00] <client> I used a tool called webhttrack to download the source code of the site, but the site is password protected, although it looks like the source code is showing the site
[11:00] <bobslee> how can i mount 9p ?
[11:00] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:00] <mudkip908> client: Upload the index.html to a pastebin
[11:01] <somsip> client: the tool you use may allow you to add the HTTP basic auth details in the URL. Eg<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:02] <Dr_willis> bobslee,  and a '9p' is what?
[11:03] <mudkip908> Dr_willis: probably a Bell Plan9 partition
[11:03] <bobslee> Dr_willis:  a plan9 (bell labs) filesystem
[11:03] <Dr_willis> see if the kernel supports the filesystem, man mount may mention it also.
[11:03] <Supaplex> hah. everytime the wife wants me to install something on the w7 tablet, I tell her try linux. And, this is why :D https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9C_aaCX9CyJMklhWGt3dTVmczQ/edit?usp=sharing
[11:03] <bobslee> i'm trying.. we'll see