[07:41] <snarfer> Just not kubuntu specific, martalli
[07:42] <lancer285> icecruncher: see if there are any additional layouts listed under Keyboard Layouts
[07:42] <Minataku> Tm_T: Find someone who speaks Turkish and English
[07:42] <Minataku> :P
[07:42] <icecruncher> ya, i have a lot
[07:42] <Tm_T> !tr
[07:42] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[07:42] <hakanceng> ok komiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiikkkkkkkkkkkkk    :)))))))))))))))))))))))))
[07:42] <lancer285> icecruncher: and you installed it as qwerty I assume? Maybe that was my prob.
[07:42] <Minataku> lol
[07:42] <Minataku> There's nobody in there
[07:42] <Minataku> I looked XD
[07:42] <snarfer> o.o'
[07:42] <Tm_T> yup
[07:42] <icecruncher> lancer285: qwerty??
[07:42] <Iwonder|too> i found a turkish>english dictionary on google but it could take forever at one word a time
[07:42] <Minataku> No wonder he stayed here
[07:43] <snarfer> babelfish FTW
[07:43] <icecruncher> snarfer: not possible
[07:43] <Minataku> Iwonder|too: Just say "Sorry, we can not help you because we do not speak any Turkish"
[07:43] <danny500> did he understand me?
 Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde. KMSE YOOOOOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK O VERDNZ ADRESTE
[07:43] <lancer285> icecruncher: I installed kubuntu with the Dvorak layout, but now I don't have anything listed on that screen. I can't ADD qwerty so that my wife can use the computer.
[07:43] <danny500> cuase he's flipping out like he did lol
[07:43] <martalli> He needs to find someone who knows english
[07:43] <icecruncher> hmm
[07:43] <snarfer> martalli: XD
[07:43] <martalli> Easier than us trying to find somneone who speaks turkish, unfortunately
[07:43] <Minataku> Apparantly there are no actual Turkish channels on this network
[07:44] <Minataku> Let me try on Rizon
[07:44] <Tm_T> minusta meidn kaikkien pitisi puhua selke suomea, turhaa hienostella
[07:44] <snarfer> Works for me!
[07:44] <martalli> Isn't there a few turkish-specific distros?   I don't have ANY additional layouts listed on that screen. No one has been able to help.
[07:46] <icecruncher> sorry
[07:46] <lancer285> icecruncher: np, thanks for checking.
[07:46] <Iwonder|too> lancer285: what are u trying?
[07:46] <Iwonder|too> isn't there a xkbd
[07:47] <martalli> !tr
[07:47] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[07:47] <Iwonder|too> conf file
[07:47] <hakanceng> EN YS SLEYM KUBUNTUYU OLSUN BTSN
[07:47] <icecruncher> martalli: there is nobody on those channels
[07:47] <lancer285> Iwonder|too: too add a second layout?
[07:47] <martalli> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #pardus hizmetinizde.
[07:47] <martalli> Maybe they speak turkish int he Pardus channel
[07:47] <martalli> There are people there
[07:47] <Iwonder|too> you want an alternate layout? or the ability to switch keyboards?
[07:48] <Tm_T> martalli: these lingual issues are always difficult
[07:48] <lancer285> Iwonder|too: to switch layouts. I installed as dvorak, but I need to be able to switch back to qwerty so my wife can use the comp.
[07:48] <icecruncher> Iwonder|too: he want an alternate languagem, but there aren't any
[07:48] <lancer285> Iwonder|too: yeah, there aren't any listed.
[07:48] <martalli> no kidding - nange muur varshe ayeetu, innuu chenig kannada gotilla
[07:49] <Iwonder|too> no idea unless you set Xorg conf with 2 and manually comment theem  and restart X'
[07:49] <Tm_T> martalli: I write (badly) 3 different languages and somewhat understand ~10 but turkish is not one of them
[07:49] <Minataku> lol
[07:49] <Minataku> Nobody has Turkish
[07:49] <Minataku> Google, Babelfish
[07:49] <Minataku> No Turkish
[07:50] <icecruncher> Bablefish has no turkish!!
[07:50] <icecruncher> google too?
[07:50] <Tm_T> normal policy here, I had this ready for long -> /kick hakanceng this channel is english only, thanks
[07:50] <martalli> That's probably why google has plenty of professional agencies for turkish translation
[07:50] <lancer285> Iwonder|too: I know how to do it w/ gnome pretty easy. I think the prob was that I installed w/ Dvorak instead of qwerty.
[07:50] <Iwonder|too> reckon he thinks we are stupid,all this chatter and it makes no sense
[07:50] <icecruncher> lol
[07:50] <Tm_T> martalli: sure, professional, that means expensive
[07:50] <Iwonder|too> lancer285: what DE are you using?
[07:51] <MuJ> joo suomi olis aika pop
[07:51] <Tm_T> MuJ: jooh
[07:51] <lancer285> Iwonder|too: Edgy
[07:51] <Iwonder|too> kde?
[07:51] <martalli> Tm_T, Oh yeah.  The Hungarian ambassador was recently quoted as saying only a genius could learn Hungarian.  I suppose the same might be said for Turkish, too =)
[07:51] <snarfer> Oh well
[07:51] <lancer285> Iwonder|too: yes, KDE
[07:51] <snarfer> Here goes, a full erase of the HD
[07:51] <martalli> MuJ,  Now that's Finnish
[07:51] <snarfer> Luckily I backed everything up
[07:51] <MuJ> martalli: I know
[07:51] <MuJ> :D
[07:51] <martalli> Maybe the Finns could talk to him a little
[07:51] <Tm_T> martalli, Minataku: this turkish fellow did hit finnish channels too :p
[07:52] <Iwonder|too> in the clock you can change locales to some degree,i dunno if this will suffice
[07:52] <martalli> lol
[07:52] <Tm_T> martalli: btw I am finnish ;)
[07:52] <MuJ> <- too
[07:52] <Minataku> lol
[07:52] <icecruncher> any german/swiss?
[07:52] <icecruncher> lol
[07:52] <MuJ> Finnish will take over the freenode soon ;)
[07:52] <Tm_T> butt
[07:52] <MuJ> hey! >:|
[07:53] <Tm_T> oh well, this is offtopic
[07:53] <martalli> Is Turksih completely incomprehensible to Finns?
[07:53] <snarfer> Espanol?
[07:53] <danny500> imdi seni kutula kalk bu? Sen herhangi bir dier dil biliyor musun?
[07:53] <snarfer> Para las ninas
[07:53] <orient2000> chears - egeshegedre
[07:53] <martalli> Actually, the Finns created irc back in 1987 or 1988
[07:53] <icecruncher> haha
[07:53] <lancer285> unfortunately, that doesn't change the language,
[07:53] <danny500> hakanceng: imdi seni kutula kalk bu? Sen herhangi bir dier dil biliyor musun?
[07:53] <Tm_T> martalli: it takes only one crazy finn
[07:53] <Iwonder|too> wouldn't a ? to him get the point across?
[07:53] <martalli> I rmember back when there was aonly one irc network, without named channels, only numbers.  The Finns were always on channel 42
[07:53] <icecruncher> danny500: he's gone
[07:53] <danny500> oh ok lol
[07:54] <danny500> oops
[07:54] <martalli> Tm_T, Are you referring to Star Wreck? =)
[07:54] <Tm_T> err, no pun intended
[07:54] <MuJ> why does everybody think that we're crazy? :(
[07:54] <danny500> shows you how long it took to find a freakin translator lol
[07:54] <Tm_T> MuJ: you are
[07:54] <MuJ> true
[07:54] <Iwonder|too> lancer285: is there a i18 seeting in apedt that will work?
[07:54] <Tm_T> danny500: thanks <3
[07:55] <danny500> I went through about 200 things on google to find that thing
[07:55] <posingaspopular> !offtopic
[07:55] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:55] <danny500> !noonetalkingabouttopic
[07:55] <lancer285> Iwonder|too: not to sound too much like a noob, but what's apedt?
[07:55] <Iwonder|too> theres a tricky one,is trying to provide support for a turkish speaking gent really off-topic?
[07:55] <icecruncher> no
[07:55] <danny500> lol
[07:55] <Tm_T> lancer285: he meant adept :p
[07:56] <martalli> !adept | lancer285
[07:56] <ubotu> lancer285: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[07:56] <Iwonder|too> adept package manager,sorry for my typing
[07:56] <lancer285> lol
[07:56] <Tm_T> Iwonder|too: helping is on topic, very
[07:56] <sonoftheclayr> i had no luck with the nvidia drivers :'(  i just got a blank screen and couldn't do anything
[07:56] <danny500> anyone here have myspace?
[07:56] <Tm_T> danny500: go to #gallup if you're just counting
[07:56] <Admiral_Chicago> Iwonder|too: no, but myspace is
[07:56] <Minataku> Well, I'ma go relax XD
[07:56] <snarfer> OH GOD NO, NOT MYSPACE
[07:56] <Tm_T> ;(
[07:56] <icecruncher> danny500: pls that is oftopic. lol.
[07:56] <icecruncher> help
[07:56] <Iwonder|too> i'd agree
[07:57] <danny500> sorry
[07:57] <snarfer> #kubutnu+1
[07:57] <danny500> oh wait, I'm still working on that file permissions lol
[07:57] <snarfer> ?
[07:57] <icecruncher> haha
[07:57] <Tm_T> snarfer: ?
[07:57] <dha3n> hi
[07:57] <snarfer> For off topic
[07:57] <danny500> ok whats with that ls -l thing again?
[07:57] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[07:57] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:57] <snarfer> That's the ubuntu offtopic
[07:57] <Tm_T> snarfer: look that one
[07:57] <danny500> all it did was give me a list of permissions
[07:57] <snarfer> Ah
[07:57] <snarfer> my bad
[07:58] <Iwonder|too> danny500: ls -l will tell you owner and attributes of the file
[07:58] <Tm_T> snarfer: #ubuntu+1 is for "next release"
[07:58] <snarfer> Opps
[07:58] <snarfer> oops*
[07:58] <Iwonder|too> this will let you know what you must do/alter to accomplish  your goal
[07:58] <lancer285> Iwonder|too: I'm not seeing one.
[07:58] <danny500> oh ok
[07:59] <Iwonder|too> dunno lancer285 was just a guess
[07:59] <danny500> well I already know the permissions, and I'm not in them lol
[07:59] <snarfer> Here goes, again.
[07:59] <billytwowilly> man, what a pain in the butt. Those jerks at digg frontpaged automatix, and now it's down because they are ddossing it.
[07:59] <lancer285> well, thanx for trying guys. I'll try and fix it on the Fiesty update.
[07:59] <danny500> how do I make a file open it's permissions to everyone and everything?
[07:59] <Iwonder|too> danny500: to write to the file,either assume ownership with sudo or su,or sudo chown it or sudo chmod it
[08:00] <Iwonder|too> chmod 0777
[08:00] <danny500> so that will let anything change the file in anyways?
[08:00] <Iwonder|too> that would be sudo chmod 0777 <file>
[08:00] <danny500> oh ok thanks brb
[08:00] <Iwonder|too> that makes it totally open to everyone and thing
[08:01] <Iwonder|too> and is generally a bad unsafe idea
[08:01] <danny500> it's only amsn
[08:01] <Iwonder|too> its your file
[08:01] <danny500> not like I have bank statements on it lol
[08:02] <Iwonder|too> lol
[08:02] <icecruncher> danny500: if you installed it, it already should be accesible to everyone
[08:02] <danny500> oh amsn lets hack it lol
[08:02] <danny500> nope
[08:02] <danny500> only to root
[08:02] <danny500> I can only use it
[08:02] <danny500> can't change it
[08:02] <danny500> can now though :0
[08:02] <danny500> :)
[08:02] <icecruncher> danny500: how did  you install it?
[08:02] <Iwonder|too> the idea,they say,is that if a file in it has access to another file you've just compromised more than 1
[08:03] <Iwonder|too> maybe it should be suid
[08:03] <Iwonder|too> that way the person starting it owns it
[08:05] <danny500> internet
[08:05] <danny500> it was an autoinstaller
[08:05] <Iwonder|too> who owns it?
[08:05] <danny500> root
[08:05] <Iwonder|too> did it have a s in permissions?
[08:06] <danny500> like I said, everything on this computer is under root ownership so I can't change it, I can only use it
[08:06] <danny500> didn't look
[08:06] <Iwonder|too> usually it will be like root:users
[08:06] <danny500> oh and while I'm at it
[08:06] <Iwonder|too> all members of users group can use it
[08:07] <danny500> I need help reading a NTFS HD
[08:07] <Iwonder|too> look in adept for ntfs utilitys
[08:07] <Iwonder|too> i forget their name
[08:07] <danny500> cause my Windows XP drive messed up (no really) and I need my Ubuntu o read it
[08:07] <danny500> so look up NTFS Utilitys
[08:08] <Iwonder|too> its possible if the drive is not broken,writing to ntfs is a pain though
[08:08] <Iwonder|too> yeah
[08:08] <Iwonder|too> let me see if i can find the name
[08:08] <danny500> no it's good I just can't get Windows to work right
[08:08] <danny500> some viruses kicked in
[08:08] <danny500> ain't that a surprise
[08:08] <pollyo> !launchpad
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[08:08] <pollyo> !bug
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[08:09] <danny500> !Windows
[08:09] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[08:09] <Iwonder|too> once you get it mounted scan it with clamav
[08:09] <danny500> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[08:09] <icecruncher> lol
[08:09] <danny500> please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute
[08:09] <danny500> mental institute lol
[08:09] <icecruncher> oh yeah, definatly
[08:09] <danny500> AHAHAHAHAHA thats a pretty good rip on Windows
[08:10] <Iwonder|too> i love linux,my brother kills xp bi-weekly,mine is still kicking
[08:10] <Iwonder|too> yeah search in adept for ntfs,i found several ntfs3g looks promising
[08:10] <danny500> Windows is easy to use bug crashes all the time and Linux is hard to use but never mess's up, I think a Windows user interface and a Linux kernal and that would be one really good OS
[08:11] <icecruncher> danny500: no, not for me
[08:11] <Admiral_Chicago> danny500: please stay on topic. This is a Kubuntu support channel
[08:11] <danny500> sorry
[08:11] <Admiral_Chicago> goes for the rest of the room
[08:11] <danny500> ok someone start talking about something n topic
[08:11] <Iwonder|too> i can't complain about kubuntu,i've had two issues common with all binary distros
[08:12] <icecruncher> Iwonder|too: I had to reinstall kubuntu 4 tiems this week
[08:12] <danny500> I frez once and a while but thats from loading to many things at once lol
[08:12] <Iwonder|too> missing libs and headers for source installs and missing modules(on 5 i've tested so far)
[08:12] <danny500> I'm running a 550MHz P3 with 320MB SDRAM :D
[08:13] <Iwonder|too> icecruncher: why ever reinstall linux,its fixable
[08:13] <danny500> oh wait can't forget the awe inspiering 8MB graphics card
[08:13] <danny500> lol
[08:13] <icecruncher> no, rebooted in safe mode, couldn't fix dependaces, decide to reinstall
[08:13] <Iwonder|too> sounds like a source error
[08:14] <icecruncher> danny500: 333 Mhz P8 192 mb ram
[08:14] <xtavaresx> danny500 try delilinux or damn small linux
[08:14] <Iwonder|too> lfs
[08:14] <danny500> Ubuntu runs really fast
[08:14] <Iwonder|too> then you will love kubuntu
[08:14] <danny500> and it's pretty easy to us
[08:14] <danny500> I'm good
[08:14] <Iwonder|too> try gentoo cli install
[08:14] <danny500> Kubuntu and Ubuntu are almost the same lol
[08:15] <danny500> whats the difference between ubuntu and Kubunut?
[08:15] <Iwonder|too> kde
[08:15] <icecruncher> I believe taht ubiquity could use a lot more development!
[08:15] <snarfer> How do I find my router's IP address?
[08:15] <xtavaresx> gnome and kde
[08:15] <Iwonder|too> route -n
[08:15] <danny500> cause I can use the Kubuntu desktop when ever I want
[08:15] <icecruncher> snarfer: usually it's <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:15] <Iwonder|too> or <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:15] <snarfer> I pinged it, and that's not it
[08:15] <danny500> yes it's <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:16] <snarfer> well
[08:16] <Iwonder|too> especially if its isp supplied
[08:16] <danny500> what type of router you have?
[08:16] <snarfer> Ah
[08:16] <snarfer> 254 did it
[08:16] <danny500> nm lol
[08:16] <Iwonder|too> use that as your default gw
[08:16] <icecruncher> depends on brand
[08:16] <pollyo> what is the command to see the last few lines of a file?
[08:16] <danny500> alot of the time the router willhave the address right on it
[08:16] <Iwonder|too> tail
[08:17] <pollyo> Thank you.
[08:17] <Iwonder|too> like tail -20 some file
[08:18] <Iwonder|too> my router address are <IP_ADDRESS>,<IP_ADDRESS>.<IP_ADDRESS>
[08:18] <Iwonder|too> gets a bit confusing at times
[08:18] <icecruncher> Iwonder|too; why do you have 3 routers?
[08:18] <danny500> book mark them on your browser lol
[08:18] <Iwonder|too> first is a nat enabled dsl modem set to bridge mode
[08:19] <danny500> I'm thinking about hacking into my Wii through the router lol by pinging it
[08:19] <Iwonder|too> second is a b band router to my servers,one cat 5 feeds my g band wirless i use for laptop browsing
[08:19] <danny500> need to find it's IP though
[08:19] <icecruncher> ahh
[08:19] <danny500> D-Link?
[08:19] <Iwonder|too> danny500: do you have access to you router?
[08:19] <danny500> yep
[08:20] <Iwonder|too> linksys
[08:20] <danny500> it's right beside me lol
[08:20] <snarfer> Mine's in front of me
[08:20] <Iwonder|too> look in the dhcp routing list
[08:20] <danny500> it will have the address of everything thats attached to it
[08:20] <Iwonder|too> it should show everything that recieved an ip automatically
[08:20] <danny500> oh ok then that wil help
[08:20] <danny500> how do I find that again/
[08:20] <danny500> ?
[08:21] <Iwonder|too> usually in logs or adminastration area
[08:21] <danny500> oh ok
[08:21] <Iwonder|too> i type http ://<IP_ADDRESS> in my browser
[08:21] <snarfer> Thanks all
[08:21] <snarfer> My install is up and running
[08:21] <snarfer> <3s all around
[08:22] <danny500> I have a D-Link WBR-1310 :)
[08:22] <danny500> <# all around to
[08:22] <danny500> <3
[08:23] <danny500> I forgot how to log into it though
[08:23] <Iwonder|too> lol
[08:23] <firecrotch> Okay... what's up with Adept telling me that there is a new distribution version available?
[08:23] <Iwonder|too> most have preset passwords
[08:23] <danny500> I know
[08:23] <livenicely> konqueror is not browsing and kppp is the badest for modem connectin ubuntu is best for internet through modem
[08:23] <danny500> I got to get that
[08:23] <icecruncher> hah
[08:23] <danny500> need to find my user manual first though
[08:24] <Iwonder|too> in linksys its no user admin
[08:24] <icecruncher> danny500: google it
[08:24] <danny500> google what?
[08:24] <danny500> oh nm
[08:24] <Iwonder|too> your router
[08:24] <dxdt> I'm trying to add another panel to the bottom of my screen, but it won't resize!  How can I make it "tiny" like my original panel at the top is?
[08:24] <Iwonder|too> unless u changed it
[08:25] <Iwonder|too> open control panel
[08:25] <Iwonder|too> go to panel there should be a drop down box that lets you choose between panel and main panel
[08:25] <Iwonder|too> so you can adjust each indepently
[08:26] <danny500> awe forget it I'll do it later lol
[08:26] <danny500> it's an ok router but my cordless phone kicks it off all the time lol
[08:26] <Iwonder|too> danny500: you could just ping all 253 possibiltys
[08:26] <dxdt> Iwonder|too, how do I reach that--I haven't seen a drop down box liek that anywhere
[08:26] <danny500> it's ok cause I never really use the connection anyways
[08:26] <Iwonder|too> let me look
[08:27] <tinyx> hey
[08:27] <danny500> I only use the wireless internet for my Wii's update and stuff lol
[08:27] <tinyx> I accidentally changed my display size to 640x480
[08:27] <danny500> HAHAHA
[08:27] <danny500> oops
[08:27] <tinyx> can somebody help me get it back to 1024x780
[08:27] <Iwonder|too> kmenu,settings,desktop,panel
[08:27] <danny500> go to your screen resolution settings lol
[08:27] <Iwonder|too> tinyx: try ctrl+alt+plus key
[08:28] <Imamoomoocow> #kubuntu
[08:28] <Imamoomoocow> WOW sry
[08:28] <danny500> hehe
[08:28] <tinyx> it isnt working
[08:28] <tinyx> the highest it will go up to is 640x480
[08:28] <dxdt> Iwonder|too, sweet, thank you
[08:29] <tinyx> lol everything is super huge..
[08:29] <Iwonder|too> then perhaps you only have one mode avaiable because of error in xorg.conf
[08:29] <danny500> thats sucks 0_0
[08:29] <livenicely> konqueror is not browsin plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz help
[08:29] <Iwonder|too> wrong driver,etc
[08:29] <tinyx> Well, when I use Konquer it kinda lags when I scroll
[08:29] <Iwonder|too> livenicely: in console type ping www.google.com
[08:30] <tinyx> I just upgraded to 4.07 from Ubuntu 6.06
[08:30] <Imamoomoocow> can anyone reasonably experienced with linux help me out with video (open gl) errors?
[08:30] <tinyx> 7.04**
[08:30] <Iwonder|too> tinyx: sounds like you messed xorg up,no rendering
[08:30] <tinyx> how can I fix it?
[08:31] <Admiral_Chicago> tinyx: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:31] <Iwonder|too> i really dunno what is the accepted way on kubuntu
[08:31] <Iwonder|too> that way
[08:31] <tinyx> Well, I love the interface of Kubuntu.. regular Ubuntu feels like... not natural for me
[08:31] <Imamoomoocow> anyone here know what i should do to set up WoW on linux using Wine?
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> !wow
[08:32] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[08:32] <danny500> you can't
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> does that help at all Imamoomoocow
[08:32] <danny500> you need cedega
[08:32] <danny500> even still I doubt it'll work
[08:32] <Iwonder|too> does cedega really work?
[08:32] <Imamoomoocow> sorta but i already looked at all the wow threads on the forums
[08:32] <danny500> plus you need to pay for cedega
[08:32] <icecruncher> Admiral_Chicago: what about Kubuntu? lol
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> Imamoomoocow: it will work with Wine
[08:33] <Imamoomoocow> my problems aren't addressed on any thread
[08:33] <danny500> wine will only get simple windows apps working, like msn
[08:33] <danny500> lol
[08:33] <Admiral_Chicago> what about it. wine works on Gentoo, Ubuntu, Fedora, DSL
[08:33] <Admiral_Chicago> it's all Linux
[08:33] <Iwonder|too> i've loaded civilizatiin in wine,but thats not graphic intensive'
[08:34] <danny500> yep
[08:34] <Imamoomoocow> i can boot WoW from wine but my graphics are sketchy
[08:34] <danny500> it probably doesn't ues direct x right
[08:34] <Admiral_Chicago> what driver do you use Imamoomoocow
[08:34] <Iwonder|too> anyone know of a freecell in kubuntu sources?
[08:34] <Imamoomoocow> but i have seen screens of wow running perfectly on wine
[08:34] <Imamoomoocow> Umm i don't know about my driver ?
[08:34] <Iwonder|too> Imamoomoocow: how are your graphics in linux?
[08:35] <danny500> tell WoW to run the graphics using OpenGL
[08:35] <danny500> cause most likely it's trying to initiate directX
[08:35] <Imamoomoocow> on fiesty fawn kubuntu looks sexy but
[08:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Imamoomoocow: type this. cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep driver
[08:36] <Imamoomoocow> ok i copy pasted that into terminal but it came up with nothing
[08:36] <danny500> Imamoomoocow, get OpenGL working on your machine then tell Wow to use that for graphics
[08:36] <Imamoomoocow> ok what should i do for pen gl
[08:37] <danny500> never used it but look it up on google for Linux
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, what is the location of Xorg?
[08:37] <tony__> hey
[08:37] <tony__> this is tiny
[08:37] <Iwonder|too> in /etc/X11/
[08:37] <tony__> I was wondering, why does my Konqueror kinda lag when I scroll through a page?
[08:37] <danny500> cause from what I see WoW is trying to use DirectX which is the main graphics center in Windows but since Linux doesn't have it you can get WoW to use Open GL which Linux does have
[08:38] <tony__> All programs lag when I move them..lol
[08:38] <Iwonder|too> tony__: small machine or lack of rendering in video
[08:38] <Admiral_Chicago> Imamoomoocow: did you capitalize X11?
[08:38] <tony__> Is there anyway I can fix this?
[08:38] <Imamoomoocow> let me see
[08:38] <Iwonder|too> type glxinfo \grep rendering
[08:38] <danny500> tony_: what do you have in your machine?
[08:38] <Iwonder|too> oops
[08:38] <danny500> specsc wise
[08:38] <Iwonder|too> |grep
[08:38] <Imamoomoocow> yes i typed cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep driver
[08:39] <tony__> It's a pretty basic e-machine.. umm I still have windows on it under dual boot
[08:39] <Iwonder|too> isn't it DRIVER
[08:39] <danny500> what is your specs?
[08:39] <danny500> RAM, graphics power, cpu speed
[08:39] <tony__> I really don't know.. lol
[08:39] <danny500> are you running windows right now?
[08:39] <tony__> I just use Kubuntu as an alternative to Windows.. because I hear its much better
[08:40] <tony__> I'm running Kubuntu
[08:40] <icecruncher> tony__: Main menu > system > kinforcenter
[08:40] <Iwonder|too> tony__: type glxinfo|grep rendering in console
[08:40] <danny500> ok go into Windows, open the run from the start menu and type "dxdiag" and press ok look at what you have and come back and tell me
[08:40] <Iwonder|too> if it says rendering no,then that will cause buggy video
[08:42] <Imamoomoocow> direct rendering comes back yes
[08:42] <tony__> where is rendering?
[08:42] <danny500> in WoW
[08:42] <danny500> it says it's using direct rendering?
[08:42] <Imamoomoocow> no in terminal
[08:42] <danny500> oh ok nm
[08:43] <Imamoomoocow> i can make wow use open gl easily but then it says WoW.exe could not initiate 3d graphics
[08:43] <danny500> do you have OpenGL on your machine?
[08:43] <Imamoomoocow> im not sure
[08:44] <danny500> lol
[08:44] <Imamoomoocow> is it standard with kubuntu ?
[08:44] <danny500> no
[08:44] <danny500> it's an add on
[08:44] <danny500> hold up I'll see if I can find a download site
[08:44] <Imamoomoocow> ok then what should i do?
[08:44] <Imamoomoocow> ok thank you very much
[08:44] <Imamoomoocow> i cannot live without my wow
[08:45] <danny500> here you go
[08:45] <danny500> please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute
[08:45] <danny500> oops
[08:46] <icecruncher> lol
[08:46] <Imamoomoocow> i ddddon't have a problem i swear
[08:46] <danny500> why does it keep doing that?
[08:46] <danny500> I copied and pasted a url and it keeps pasting "please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute"
[08:46] <icecruncher> !windows > Imamoomoocow
[08:47] <danny500> what ever
[08:47] <danny500> go here
[08:47] <icecruncher> danny500: go to Klipper, change there
[08:47] <danny500> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t+176636
[08:47] <icecruncher> danny500: at bottom of screen you clickl on the text you wann paste...
[08:48] <icecruncher> the clipboard i mean
[08:48] <danny500> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t+176636
[08:48] <danny500> go there and read on how to use OpenGL :)
[08:49] <Imamoomoocow> ok thank you
[08:49] <danny500> your welcome
[08:49] <Imamoomoocow> O yea i have annother question
[08:49] <Iwonder|too> anyone reply to knowing of a freecell solitare avaiable on kubuntu?
[08:49] <danny500> what is freecell? is that a game?
[08:49] <danny500> nm
[08:50] <danny500> look up solitare on Adept lol
[08:50] <icecruncher> there is, forgot what it's called
[08:50] <neptunepink> kgames, maybe
[08:50] <icecruncher> think so
[08:50] <Iwonder|too> got that,no freecell
[08:51] <Iwonder|too> i've got xfreecell on gentoo
[08:51] <neptunepink> apt-cache search freecell :b
[08:51] <icecruncher> hmm. used to have it... dunno
[08:51] <danny500> or go into Adept and look up Freecell Solitare
[08:51] <Iwonder|too> tried that
[08:51] <danny500> or use Synaptic Package manager and do the same thing
[08:51] <Iwonder|too> i get freecell solver
[08:51] <danny500> did you try Yelp?
[08:51] <icecruncher> danny500: it's alled somethimg else
[08:52] <Iwonder|too> yelp?
[08:52] <danny500> nm
[08:52] <danny500> did you google it?
[08:52] <icecruncher> *called
[08:52] <pollyo> Looks like last.fm radio does not like my KDE setup.
[08:52] <pollyo> It is running fine when I startup in Gnome.
[08:52] <danny500> hey you usethat to? lol
[08:53] <Imamoomoocow> anyone have a clue how i can use the aoss command to load the file  "/home/justin/World of Warcraft/WoW.exe"?
[08:53] <icecruncher> wine fielname
[08:53] <icecruncher> *file
[08:53] <Iwonder|too> i got aceof penguins,description says it has freecell
[08:53] <danny500> wine /home/justin/world of ..............
[08:54] <Iwonder|too> right click the file,open with,type in wine
[08:54] <Imamoomoocow> i use "aoss wine /home/justin/World of Warcraft/WoW.exe but it turns up "cannot find /home/justin/World"
[08:55] <Iwonder|too> use \as in world\ of\ warcraft
[08:55] <danny500> why are you so worried about Freecell anyways?
[08:55] <Iwonder|too> i love the game
[08:55] <danny500> play it online
[08:55] <Iwonder|too> i spose,just prefer at home play
[08:55] <Imamoomoocow> ok so "\" represents a space?
[08:55] <danny500> or you can use _ as a space
[08:56] <Iwonder|too> its a delimiter
[08:56] <Imamoomoocow> ok
[08:56] <Iwonder|too> or you can "quote" it
[08:56] <danny500> or just get rid of the spaces all together lol
[08:56] <Imamoomoocow> thanks i will bother you no more
[08:56] <danny500> its ok
[08:56] <danny500> thats what we are here for lol
[08:56] <Iwonder|too> its a pain to access program Files without \
[08:56] <Imamoomoocow> ill porbably be back later in the week or day
[08:57] <danny500> ok
[08:57] <danny500> oh you know what I want, I want a computer that can run as if it were two computers
[08:57] <Iwonder|too> huh?
[08:57] <icecruncher> does anybody know if gmail supports pipelining?
[08:57] <danny500> so if you wanted to you could have to screens and have windows running on one and Linux on the other
[08:58] <Iwonder|too> vmware
[08:58] <danny500> two keyboard and two mouses
[08:58] <danny500> forget VMware
[08:58] <Iwonder|too> two pcs and a kvm switch
[08:58] <danny500> I mean fully functioning seperate OS's
[08:58] <danny500> no one pc that can run like two I'm mean they can, they have dual core pu's now, why not
[08:59] <Iwonder|too> check out tiger direct,they have a device,i forget the name but will do that
[08:59] <danny500> I want one computer, not two, one, that can run like its two computers
[08:59] <Iwonder|too> run 2 os on same box(not at the same time) it pauses one when u are in other
[08:59] <posingaspopular> danny500: you should be in #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:59] <Iwonder|too> but resumes with a keystroke
[08:59] <danny500> I know but I want someone to make a computer that can run as if it were two computers lol
[09:00] <unix_infidel> danny500: virtual machine :P
[09:00] <danny500> AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[09:00] <danny500> I know this is off topic but I'll stop talking about this when someone actually needs help or actully start's talking about this topic
[09:00] <unix_infidel> they have hardware vt engines now, make use of them.
[09:01] <danny500> you'r not understanding me
[09:01] <posingaspopular> danny500: i dont think your request is even possible
[09:01] <danny500> I want a company to make a computer that you can use as if there was two computer there at the same time
[09:02] <pollyo> Anyone here running feisty?
[09:02] <posingaspopular> that's a virtual machine
[09:02] <danny500> it can be done, just noone has done it yet
[09:02] <posingaspopular> pollyo: yes
[09:02] <pollyo> posingaspopular: Does lastfm work on your machine?
[09:02] <Iwonder|too> i'm on feisty
[09:02] <posingaspopular> danny500: trust me that it is being done in fedora core 7 as i talked to one of the core developers about it yesterday
[09:03] <posingaspopular> pollyo: i duno, i havent tried it yet
[09:03] <danny500> no I mean I want the hardware to get split into two segment so that the computer thinks that it's two seperate computers
[09:03] <pollyo> Anyone with feisty install lastfm?
[09:03] <danny500> I'm not talking about the OS's or software, I'm talking about the hardware it self
[09:03] <posingaspopular> danny500: yes, that's correct. i understand.
[09:03] <Iwonder|too> i'm listeninmg to it in amarok right now
[09:03] <pollyo> Does it run on your machine?  I can only get it to work when I boot into the gnome desktop.  When I boot into the KDE desktop it bombs on me.
[09:03] <Iwonder|too> the heavy metal
[09:03] <posingaspopular> pollyo: my brother got it working to amarok
[09:03] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Yes.  That works for me as well.
[09:03] <posingaspopular> in fesity
[09:04] <pollyo> I can not get the standalone lastfm radio program to run.
[09:04] <pollyo> Unless I start in Gnome.
[09:04] <posingaspopular> pollyo: file a bug please
[09:04] <Iwonder|too> haven't tried it,let me see if i can find it
[09:04] <pollyo> posingaspopular: Already did.
[09:05] <danny500> so lets say you have a 2GHz dual core cpu, when your running only one OS your using the whole cpu, when you run both OS's at the same time, the one cpu core is used to run the one OS and the other for the other OS
[09:05] <Lynoure> pollyo: like I said, I can try to confirm your bug if you file it.
[09:05] <Lynoure> pollyo: and if you tell me where it is...
[09:05] <posingaspopular> danny500: how is that different than virtualization?
[09:05] <pollyo> Lynoure: I did report it.
[09:05] <danny500> cause you need one of the OS's to run the other OS
[09:05] <pollyo> Lynoure: Launchpad I can get you a link.
[09:05] <Lynoure> pollyo: url?
[09:06] <danny500> the way I'm talking about is no virtualization what so ever
[09:06] <pollyo> !bug
[09:06] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[09:06] <pollyo> Let me get a direct link.
[09:06] <Iwonder|too> danny500: why not install 2 mbds and all the stuff in one box?
[09:06] <danny500> I know, that's one way of doing it but I want the ability to do that using only one mobo
[09:06] <posingaspopular> danny500: im sorry i have no clue what you are saying. you want to run one OS at a time, or two at a time? the ability to suspend/turn off one OS withouteffecting the other?
[09:07] <pollyo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lastfm/+bug/104675
[09:07] <danny500> I wanna be able to run 2OS's at the same time and they have absulutely no connection to each other what so ever
[09:08] <danny500> the only thing they can do with each other is send files back and fore, other then that they are seperate
[09:08] <posingaspopular> ahhh hmmm
[09:08] <danny500> yea
[09:08] <posingaspopular> i dont know if that's possible
[09:08] <posingaspopular> if it is, that would be pretty interesting to do
[09:08] <danny500> and very usfull
[09:09] <danny500> you could use Windows to play games then instantly switch to Kubunut for everything else lol with now waiting to boot up or anything
[09:09] <danny500> they can do it but like I asid, no one has even thought about doing it
[09:10] <S-Angeli> Hi, I am having terrible experience with my external hd.
[09:10] <danny500> all you would need is a special bios for you motherboard
[09:10] <danny500> whats up?
[09:10] <S-Angeli> I have a Lacie hd connected first with firewire then with usb
[09:10] <danny500> yep
[09:10] <S-Angeli> I connect it and it gets mounted
[09:10] <danny500> and?
[09:10] <S-Angeli> then I try to cp or do anything on it and it freezes up
[09:10] <S-Angeli> it is fat 32
[09:11] <danny500> hm
[09:11] <S-Angeli> if I use console I can see inside
[09:11] <danny500> is there anything on it right now?
[09:11] <S-Angeli> what do you mean right?
[09:11] <danny500> do you have anything on the E-HD?
[09:12] <posingaspopular> S-Angeli: is there anything on the e-hd presently?
[09:12] <danny500> ...
[09:12] <S-Angeli> ok
[09:12] <S-Angeli> it seems now something has happened
[09:12] <S-Angeli> let me try
[09:12] <danny500> do you have anything on your hard drive?
[09:13] <danny500> or is it blank?
[09:13] <pollyo> Lynoure: Did you have any luck with lastfm?
[09:13] <S-Angeli> it is blank
[09:13] <S-Angeli> now I am able to copy my data
[09:13] <danny500> have you tried reformating it?
[09:13] <crazy_penguin> 'morning all! :)
[09:13] <danny500> ok ok
[09:13] <S-Angeli> thks
[09:14] <S-Angeli> I do not know what happened
[09:14] <danny500> so your good now?
[09:14] <Lynoure> pollyo: I'll check after breakfast (in 30min or so)
[09:14] <danny500> maybe you have a power problem
[09:14] <danny500> or maybe just the connection
[09:14] <icecruncher> morning, or should i say afternoon
[09:14] <pollyo> Lynoure: Take your time.
[09:14] <danny500> I'd rather use USB for that ut w/e
[09:16] <danny500> wow this room just went dead lol
[09:16] <danny500> I mean WoW
[09:16] <danny500> lol
[09:16] <icecruncher> lol
[09:16] <posingaspopular> icecruncher: it's night
[09:16] <posingaspopular> xD
[09:17] <icecruncher> :)
[09:17] <danny500> guess what I have to fix
[09:17] <icecruncher> posingaspopular: for me it's 14:17
[09:17] <danny500> a Windows 98 computer lol
[09:17] <posingaspopular> icecruncher: is that am or pm?
[09:17] <posingaspopular> im am
[09:18] <icecruncher> danny500: what? a bathroom?
[09:18] <danny500> a 400MHz 64MB RAM Windows 98 P2 lol
[09:18] <icecruncher> lol, used to run 95
[09:18] <danny500> yep prety much
[09:18] <icecruncher> posingaspopular: pm
[09:18] <posingaspopular> icecruncher: nope! guess again, am
[09:19] <danny500> I need to get drivers for the graphics card, the ethernet card and a couple other things lol
[09:19] <icecruncher> what's oh, guess, 3 am?
[09:19] <danny500> I'm 2:20am lol
[09:19] <danny500> don't feel like sleeping
[09:19] <icecruncher> posingaspopular: same?
[09:20] <anees> hi
[09:20] <danny500> I'm using MSN rihgt now and I have a contact for the phone book that looks up people and tells you their address ok
[09:20] <icecruncher> dang we are down to 326 people, wonder what the highest was
[09:20] <icecruncher> hi
[09:20] <posingaspopular> icecruncher: im super tired, but i haven't done any work in a week or so, or today at all.
[09:20] <anees> anybody help me how to install and configure postfix mail server
[09:20] <danny500> I like telling it to look up crap like Yo Momma lol
[09:21] <anees> anybody help me how to install and configure postfix mail server on kubuntu
[09:21] <icecruncher> posingaspopular: lol, ya, am suposed to study for my ap stat test too, but heck...
[09:21] <danny500> um
[09:21] <icecruncher> anees: no, sorry
[09:22] <posingaspopular> icecruncher: nah i just didnt want to do work during spring break
[09:22] <danny500> try this, open your terminal and type "sudo config filename"
[09:22] <tony__> hi
[09:22] <danny500> or "config filename"
[09:22] <danny500> hi
[09:22] <icecruncher> lol
[09:22] <anees> ok icecruncher...thanx anyway
[09:23] <danny500> or even cf filename
[09:23] <tony__> Quick question: How do I write an .iso to a CD?
[09:23] <icecruncher> hello
[09:23] <anees> anybody help me how to install and configure postfix mail server
[09:23] <danny500> use K3b
[09:23] <Iwonder|too|NotH> k3b
[09:23] <tony__> I know how to using Windows, but I'm not sure sure about Ubuntu.
[09:23] <danny500> tony_: use K3b
[09:23] <Iwonder|too> use k3b,it works like nero
[09:23] <danny500> !K3b
[09:23] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[09:23] <crazy_bus> is there anyway to get kaffeine to repeat a video over an over from point a to point b?
[09:24] <Iwonder|too> similar menus/interface'
[09:24] <icecruncher> !ubuntu | tony__
[09:24] <ubotu> tony__: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[09:24] <Iwonder|too> or i think nero/linux supports burn image also
[09:24] <danny500> would any of you guess guess that I'm a noob at Linux lol
[09:25] <icecruncher> Iwonder|too: yeah, but K3b is nicer, for me anyway
[09:25] <Iwonder|too> danny500: we are all linux noobs
[09:25] <tony__> ok thank you12
[09:25] <danny500> lol
[09:25] <tony__> =] ]
[09:25] <icecruncher> danny500; no, you told us earlier
[09:25] <Iwonder|too> yeah i like k3b
[09:25] <danny500> yeah K3b is nice easy to use and really fast
[09:25] <danny500> you could posibly get Nero 7 to run using Wine lol
[09:26] <icecruncher> you know they have a nero version for linux
[09:26] <danny500> but you should just use K3b
[09:26] <Iwonder|too> occasiionly i have write issues and must start it as root,dunno why
[09:26] <danny500> they do
[09:26] <pollyo> Give dvdshrink (windows) a try.
[09:26] <danny500> oops haha
[09:26] <Iwonder|too> nerolinux
[09:26] <tony__> cool this is workin for me
[09:26] <pollyo> It is fast and will shrink the dvd to a single layer.
[09:26] <Iwonder|too> dvdshrink woprks in wine,lol
[09:27] <danny500> hey, I burned an windows iso to disc but it won't boot, how come/
[09:27] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Yes.  I've been told that as well.
[09:27] <danny500> I used K3b
[09:27] <icecruncher> pollyo: nice, do they have an equivilant
[09:27] <Iwonder|too> danny500:  did you burn it as a bootable disk?
[09:27] <icecruncher> ?
[09:27] <pollyo> danny500: I suppose it needs some type of boot block setting.
[09:27] <danny500> how do I do that?
[09:27] <Iwonder|too> are you using an old cdrom?
[09:27] <danny500> nope, brand new
[09:28] <pollyo> icecruncher: On Linux?  They have a list of dvd backup utilities.
[09:28] <icecruncher> here's something funny....
[09:28] <icecruncher> ya
[09:28] <tony__> How much of a difference is there between 7.04 and 6.06 using Kubuntu?
[09:28] <danny500> faster boot up
[09:28] <tux> tony__: lots..
[09:28] <pollyo> tony__: 1.02 <smirk> <grin>
[09:28] <danny500> lol
[09:29] <danny500> AHAHAHAHA
[09:29] <pollyo> Opps.. I've been up way to long..
[09:29] <pollyo> I can't even do the math.
[09:29] <icecruncher> I asked my friend to download a kubuntu iso, and he said that he had extraced the folder and burned the contents, not as bootable. lol
[09:29] <Simeon_H> I'm sticking with dapper for the full 5 years
[09:29] <tony__> I like Dapper much better
[09:29] <tux> with which program I can record an X session for making an Youtube video?
[09:29] <tony__> be back in a bit =] ]
[09:29] <Simeon_H> xvidcap
[09:29] <danny500> I'm sticking with my 6.06 untill it's not able to be used no moe lol
[09:29] <Simeon_H> that was aimed at you tux
[09:30] <pollyo> Does last.fm have comercials?
[09:30] <danny500> whats with the 0.6 anyways?
[09:30] <icecruncher> dunno, stable?
[09:30] <tux> thx
[09:30] <danny500> what ever happened to 6.1 or 6.1 or 6.05?
[09:30] <tux> su
[09:30] <posingaspopular> danny500: the name refers to the month/year of release
[09:30] <danny500> 6.06 to 6.10, they missed some numbers lol
[09:31] <tarelerulz> I want to make mplayer my default play for all my media though firefox ?
[09:31] <posingaspopular> 7.04 is the new release this month, 7.10 is the next relase, since they are done every 6 months
[09:31] <tux> Simeon_H: I can't find it
[09:31] <danny500> I didn;t know that it's 2010 lol
[09:31] <danny500> oh what the 7 for?
[09:31] <tux> E: Impossibile trovare xvidcap
[09:32] <posingaspopular> the year, 07
[09:32] <posingaspopular> minus the 0
[09:32] <danny500> ok then, Linux is good when it comes to the number but how does Windows have to explain it's self? lol it got numbers like 654326432.6863846328432647
[09:32] <Simeon_H> http://sourceforge.net/projects/xvidcap/
[09:32] <posingaspopular> last year's releases were 6.10 and 6.06. the first release was 5.1 iirc
[09:33] <Simeon_H> theres a deb package in there
[09:33] <icecruncher> ugh
[09:33] <posingaspopular> 4.10 i was wrong
[09:33] <danny500> they'll be like this is version 7889.7654321 then the next version that comes out they'll be like this is version 8
[09:33] <danny500> lol
[09:34] <ubuntu> hey
[09:34] <danny500> stupid Microsoft
[09:34] <tux> thx
[09:34] <Iwonder|too> for whoever asked lastfm standalone player works great
[09:34] <danny500> yo
[09:34] <tinyx> there
[09:34] <tinyx> lol
[09:35] <danny500> hehe
[09:36] <icecruncher> mssoft, codename vienna... what kinda name is that?
[09:36] <danny500> guess what movie I downoaded and burned yesturday lol
[09:36] <danny500> 300 - Frnk Miller
[09:37] <danny500> lol
[09:37] <icecruncher> uhh, i got vienna running, aint that sweet?....HAHA rotfl
[09:37] <Lynoure> pollyo: Worked fine for me...
[09:38] <danny500> you mean Vista?
[09:38] <icecruncher> no vienna is nexxt
[09:38] <icecruncher> *next
[09:38] <danny500> oh, thats a stupid name
[09:39] <Simeon_H> mmmm
[09:39] <Lynoure> pollyo: can you play other audio fine?
[09:39] <icecruncher> yeah
[09:39] <Simeon_H> vienna ice cream cake is all I can think of
[09:39] <posingaspopular> !welcome | ubuntu
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about welcome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <posingaspopular> hmmdid that person leave?
[09:39] <vecco> Hi,,,, How to run Kate or other app with 'Sudo' (administrator mode)
[09:39] <icecruncher> lol
[09:39] <danny500> why don't they just go ahead and do what everyone thinks, call the next version "stupid" lol Windows Stupid
[09:39] <Simeon_H> you could go into konsole and type sudo kate
[09:39] <icecruncher> sudo kate
[09:39] <posingaspopular> !sudo
[09:39] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root").  Infections..' Eh.. No Not Again!" ?
[09:40] <icecruncher> i recently read a news story where a guy sued mssoft because the FBI craked into his comp
[09:40] <posingaspopular> !windows
[09:40] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[09:40] <icecruncher> lol
[09:40] <danny500> then Microsoft should just give you the Viruses as a bundle package for free lol
[09:40] <danny500> pre installed
[09:41] <icecruncher> lol
[09:41] <vecco> sudo Konqueror
[09:41] <icecruncher> yeah
[09:41] <vecco> doesnt work
[09:41] <MuJ> of course not
[09:41] <danny500> Windows Stupid, now comes with all the great worms and Trojians you could ever want lol
[09:41] <vecco> why?
[09:41] <icecruncher> kdesu konqueror
[09:41] <MuJ> K != k
[09:41] <tarelerulz> What is good gui tool for samba
[09:41] <vecco> lol..
[09:42] <vecco> ;p
[09:42] <vecco> I forgot
[09:42] <vecco> thx
[09:42] <Iwonder|too> smb4k
[09:42] <danny500> :P
[09:42] <Iwonder|too> or kamba2'
[09:42] <Iwonder|too> i prefer smb4k
[09:42] <posingaspopular> danny500: http://qdb.us/82983
[09:42] <tarelerulz> What i am  trying to do is share my linux files with windows? I can't seem to get that working windows xp as for password and I did not set that up
[09:43] <icecruncher> !samba
[09:43] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:43] <Iwonder|too> did you share it in windows without a opassword?
[09:43] <danny500> HAAHAHAHAHA
[09:43] <danny500> thanks lol
[09:43] <tarelerulz> Yes no password in windows ?
[09:44] <icecruncher> awesome
[09:44] <pollyo> Lynoure: It works fine for you?
[09:44] <Iwonder|too> i mean rightclick directory,share?
[09:44] <tarelerulz> i just can't get at my linux shares
[09:44] <danny500> thanks posingaspopular :D
[09:45] <danny500> http://qdb.us/82983
[09:45] <danny500> everyone go vote :)
[09:45] <Iwonder|too> search in windows by linux ip
[09:45] <icecruncher> i already did
[09:45] <icecruncher> lol
[09:45] <danny500> lol
[09:45] <pollyo> Lynoure: Strange... It only works for me in Gnome.  I can not get it to run correctly when I log in under KDE
[09:46] <danny500> actually can that thing be redone?
[09:46] <tarelerulz> in ubuntu 6.10 I shared my linux files easy I did not have to do anything other then pick what I wanted to share
[09:46] <danny500> It should say
[09:47] <danny500> Should Microsoft give you a Viruse bundle package right of the bat?
[09:47] <pollyo> Wait.  I just changed stations and it bombed on me in Gnome.
[09:47] <danny500> lol
[09:47] <icecruncher> ?
[09:47] <icecruncher> nah
[09:47] <danny500> nm
[09:47] <danny500> it's good
[09:48] <posingaspopular> M$ should. it'd be faster
[09:48] <danny500> I heard that they are thinking about charging people by the month to use Windows
[09:49] <danny500> like $5 a month
[09:49] <icecruncher> yeah
[09:49] <danny500> do you know how many people would switch to Mac and Linux lol
[09:49] <icecruncher> or you update your status with some card so you can buy more time
[09:49] <danny500> yeah but think about that $5 a month is alot
[09:50] <danny500> especially if you have to pay that for ever
[09:50] <posingaspopular> microsoft is just stupid....
[09:50] <icecruncher> i agree
[09:50] <danny500> thats $60 a year
[09:50] <posingaspopular> i'm pretty sure that letting your children use it is akin to childabuse
[09:50] <danny500> lol
[09:50] <danny500> I'm teaching my kida to use Linux right off the bat
[09:51] <danny500> not Mac though, I hate Mac and Apple
[09:51] <danny500> Apple is an extremely cocky company
[09:51] <danny500> running their mouths off about how they are perfect and everyone else sucks
[09:51] <tarelerulz> I I have seen mac and i was inpressed with them
[09:51] <danny500> I'm not
[09:51] <tarelerulz> you can port many programs from linux to it
[09:51] <icecruncher> i kinda like mac too
[09:52] <danny500> they are horrendously expensive for no reason
[09:52] <tarelerulz> that sucks
[09:52] <tarelerulz> that is the main reason
[09:52] <danny500> the programing is good just the hardware sucks
[09:52] <posingaspopular> danny500: their software is mostly free, or as free as possible (while still being proprietary). they are mostly a hardware company
[09:52] <danny500> you can bye a computer 3 times faster then any mac for like 1/6 the price
[09:53] <tarelerulz> that is true
[09:53] <tarelerulz> I like the command line acton and porting of linux
[09:53] <danny500> I'm making a computer right now that will cost me about $1000 and a mac with equal power will cost over $3000
[09:53] <tarelerulz> programs
[09:53] <danny500> thats sad
[09:53] <tarelerulz> that is
[09:53] <Lynoure> danny500: that's not 1/6 of the price...
[09:54] <tarelerulz> That is why most of us do linux.
[09:54] <posingaspopular> 1/3
[09:54] <tarelerulz> can't beat free
[09:54] <posingaspopular> 1/3 is half of 1/6 iirc
[09:54] <Lynoure> posingaspopular: yes.
[09:54] <danny500> what's makes it even sadder is the fact that they are slowly moving everything over to computer hardware anyways lol
[09:54] <danny500> I know lol
[09:54] <posingaspopular> tarelerulz: good luck getting free hardware...
[09:54] <danny500> google the word open source lol
[09:55] <tarelerulz> Haha posingasppopular
[09:55] <danny500> never mind thats software lol
[09:55] <icecruncher> lol
[09:55] <danny500> could you imagine if all computer stuff was free
[09:56] <Lynoure> Could some konqueror user do me a favour and see if https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase/+bug/93081 can be confirmed, and if so, confirm it upstream?
[09:56] <icecruncher> sure
[09:56] <posingaspopular> i just saw a talk by peter t. jackson from the free software foundation yesterday. basically the FSF and GNU/RMS want software/technical manuals to be free.
[09:57] <MuJ> actually 1/6 is half of 1/3 ;)
[09:57] <posingaspopular> they could care less about hardware, literature, etc.
[09:57] <danny500> free manuals?
[09:57] <Lynoure> posingaspopular: FSF is doing a bad job at it with their 'free' documentation lisence
[09:57] <danny500> who wants manuals>
[09:57] <danny500> ?
[09:57] <posingaspopular> that is more creative commons type stuff
[09:57] <icecruncher> that be nice
[09:58] <posingaspopular> danny500: stallman wanted to release a path for an HP printer bug he found and they wouldn't let him because they wanted to keep all the information inside
[09:58] <posingaspopular> manuals included with the software would fallunder that
[09:58] <posingaspopular> Lynoure: what do you mean?
[09:58] <icecruncher> Lynoure: Go to a site than has an incorrect SSL certificate?
[09:58] <danny500> The Linux, Mac and Windows should get together and make one really good super OS
[09:59] <danny500> were anything will work on it and viruses are impossible to make for it
[09:59] <tarelerulz> or lest learn to play together better
[09:59] <posingaspopular> please note that i dont release any of my own work under the GPL, but Creative Commons.
[09:59] <danny500> yeah
[09:59] <Lynoure> icecruncher: I have been using https://lynoure.org
[09:59] <posingaspopular> danny500: thats not plausible, feasible, legal or realistic at all
[09:59] <danny500> why not?
[09:59] <Lynoure> icecruncher: but any site with expired or mismatch certifice is ok
[10:00] <tarelerulz> They could do if they really wanted to
[10:00] <icecruncher> k
[10:00] <danny500> they would make far more money to
[10:00] <MuJ> you think microsoft stock holders will ever want to?
[10:00] <Lynoure> posingaspopular: that is is too free for some, and not free enough for e.g. Debian
[10:00] <tarelerulz> The stock holder would not care if they go money
[10:00] <posingaspopular> they all hate each other, different license types, different ways to handle the calls, architecture issues in general, monopoly issues/regulation
[10:00] <danny500> true
[10:01] <posingaspopular> tarelerulz: gpl/copyright conflicts
[10:01] <MuJ> where do they get money if not from updates and bad software that needs support?
[10:01] <danny500> well I'm off, need to sleep lol
[10:01] <posingaspopular> Lynoure: what do you mean by not free enough?
[10:01] <danny500> cya guys
[10:01] <tarelerulz> Well, you could have software the would work with copy righted stuff ,but not be copy right itself
[10:02] <icecruncher> bye
[10:02] <Lynoure> posingaspopular: see: http://www.debian.org/vote/2006/vote_001
[10:02] <tarelerulz> What I would like to see
[10:02] <tarelerulz> is linux I could get to do all I want
[10:03] <veganri> is there any way to make it so i never have to enter passwords
[10:03] <tarelerulz> So far gotten share files with windows , read ally my media and next is something like yahoo
[10:04] <unix_infidel> veganri: for what?
[10:04] <pollyo> Lynoure: Looks like that was confirmed by at least one person.
[10:04] <unix_infidel> why would you NOT want to authenticate?
[10:04] <veganri> like when adding/removing programs or doing things in terminal
[10:04] <veganri> because i am the only user and its a pain
[10:04] <unix_infidel> veganri: no
[10:05] <veganri> that sucks
[10:05] <pollyo> Lynoure: Unless I am reading that wrong.
[10:05] <posingaspopular> well the GFDL and the GPL are difference licenses
[10:06] <luke_> what do I do with a PKGBUILD fild?
[10:06] <luke_> file*
[10:06] <posingaspopular> and the GPL/GFDL does allow modification/redistribution. that is kinda the point
[10:08] <tarelerulz> Why would a windows computer ask for a password if you did not add anything like that
[10:10] <posingaspopular> Lynoure: how is "You may not use technical measures to obstruct or control the reading or further copying of the copies you make or distribute." an issue?
[10:11] <icecruncher> posingaspopular: translate that to english
[10:11] <Lynoure> posingaspopular: did it say that was the issue? invariant sections was the issue.
[10:11] <posingaspopular> the gpl says you can't drm to stop copying/use
[10:11] <CharlesHKG> I need help, tried to load kubuntu into USB external HDD connected to an IBM think pad.  When the installation was done, I rebooted but grub crashed out with error 21  Can anyone help???
[10:12] <Lynoure> posingaspopular: if that was an example of an invariant section, just think how understandable that is to a chinese person.
[10:12] <posingaspopular> !grub
[10:12] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:12] <nonuda> help... my kubuntu boot halt at : "Begin : waiting for root file system"
[10:12] <Lynoure> posingaspopular: not at all understandable, and because it is invariant, not translatable.
[10:13] <posingaspopular> Lynoure: im not sure if i understand what invariant means... can we take this somewhere else so we aren't OT though
[10:13] <david> CharlesHKG: error 21 means "cannot find hard disk" where did you install grub to the MBR of the main hard drive?
[10:13] <icecruncher> nonuda: dunno, I would reinstall
[10:14] <nonuda> icecruncher: hmm...does it mean it lost root file system?
[10:15] <icecruncher> there si obviously an eror, but i wouldnt know how to recover it
[10:15] <Lynoure> posingaspopular: invariant sections are sections allowed by the 'free' documentation lisence which you are not allowed to change or remove
[10:15] <posingaspopular> ahh
[10:15] <posingaspopular> hmm
[10:15] <posingaspopular> i dont really know, i use CC license mostly, not GPL or copyright or w/e. software is GPL of course, but that's about it
[10:16] <posingaspopular> i don't write software or anythign so im free from those arguments
[10:16] <icecruncher> *is
[10:18] <nonuda> is there a way to update or install an app from another kubuntu box? rather then update and download from the net
[10:18] <Lynoure> posingaspopular: I was just explaining why I think FSF is not being as good for free documentation as one would assume. Which CC variant do you use?
[10:18] <posingaspopular> non commercial
[10:19] <posingaspopular> Lynoure: i can talk to you more about license later, i need to lay down for a few hors
[10:19] <icecruncher> !install | nonuda
[10:19] <ubotu> nonuda: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[10:19] <posingaspopular> hours
[10:19] <Lynoure> posingaspopular: I think that would not be considered free by Debian either.
[10:19] <Oleswen> hello
[10:20] <Oleswen> tell me, I've got a movie WMV and I can't read it
[10:20] <nonuda> icecruncher: i do know how to install, have installed kubuntu in a lot of winblodze machine ;)
[10:20] <Oleswen> I must do what ?
[10:21] <icecruncher> nonuda: and it cant find the root stucture
[10:21] <icecruncher> ?
[10:22] <icecruncher> nonuda: ?
[10:22] <icecruncher> !grub | nonuda
[10:22] <ubotu> nonuda: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:22] <nonuda> icecruncher: yes, it seems it can't find dev/hd
[10:22] <nonuda> icecruncher: i know grub too..
[10:22] <icecruncher> hm
[10:23] <icecruncher> anyone??
[10:23] <icecruncher> nonuda: this is kinda out of my range, i'll try though
[10:24] <Iwonder|too|NotH> i missed the eror?
[10:25] <nonuda> icecruncher: i was installing kubuntu from aother machine, but when after the installation and booting grub is hang
[10:25] <Iwonder|too> does it post a error number?'
[10:26] <pollyo> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-grub/2004-07/msg00113.html
[10:27] <pollyo> That is what one of the bugreports concerning the error suggested.
[10:27] <nonuda> ok..thanks
[10:29] <pollyo> nonuda: You might also want to check your computer bios to make sure the drive is setup right.
[10:30] <intelikey> nonuda what issue ?
[10:32] <nonuda> pollyo: well, boot is halt at "Begin : waiting for root file system"
[10:33] <nonuda> then after a couple of minute it dropped to a shell with iniframs prompt
[10:33] <nonuda> it seem that kubuntu can't find my hdd
[10:33] <intelikey> nonuda is that after an upgrade or an install ?
[10:33] <nonuda> after install
[10:34] <nonuda> i installed it using another pc
[10:34] <intelikey> what hardware is linux installed on ?
[10:34] <intelikey> drive ^
[10:34] <nonuda> 200mmx 64mb of ram
[10:34] <nonuda> 2.5 gb hdd
[10:35] <intelikey> ide 0 master ?
[10:35] <nonuda> i guess so, i let bios detect hdd automatically
[10:35] <livenicely_> hello i can browse international webs through my konqueror browser on local sides are browsed
[10:35] <intelikey> nonuda ok and you are at the busybox shell now ?
[10:37] <hannesduck> hi
[10:37] <intelikey> nonuda in that busybox shell do      ls /dev
[10:37] <nonuda> bios detect my hhd as hardisk drive 2, not as 0
[10:37] <intelikey> ok.
[10:37] <pollyo> Error 21 means "Selected disk does not exist. This error is returned if the device part of a device- or full file name refers to a disk or BIOS device that is not present or not recognized by the BIOS in the system."
[10:38] <intelikey> pollyo is he getting a grub error ?    or is initramfs failing him ?
[10:38] <pollyo> intelikey: I though he mentioned grub earlier.  Unless I am crossing messages here.
[10:39] <nonuda> intelikey: no grub error, grub seems works fine
[10:39] <intelikey> i can't scroll and check i just got here.
[10:39] <pollyo> nonuda: Ok.  You didn't note a grub error 21 earlier.  I must have picked it up from someone elses conversation...
[10:40] <intelikey> nonuda ok.    can you get it to the busybox prompt again and do    ls /dev/
[10:40] <pollyo> nonuda: I scrolled back.  I appologize.  It was someone else.
[10:41] <pollyo> On that note...  I should have been in bed atleast 5 hours ago.
[10:42] <intelikey> pollyo k    gooday mate.
[10:42] <pollyo> intelikey: <grin>
[10:42] <pollyo> TTYL... Goodday everyone!
[10:42] <nonuda> intelikey: the system still waiting the root file system
[10:43] <intelikey> yeah it thinks it's a network drive and it's waiting for the response.
[10:43] <S-Angeli> what is the console command to copy an entire folder and subfolders from one hd to another? Source path is /home/user/Mail Destination path is /media/sdb2/data
[10:43] <intelikey> cp /home/user/Mail /media/sdb2/data -R
[10:43] <soon> cp -a /source /destination
[10:44] <S-Angeli> thks
[10:44] <soon> read the man cp and check the -a option
[10:44] <soon> (-a = archive)
[10:44] <nonuda> intelikey: ls /dev/ give a lot of result (ptyc1, 2, 3 and so on)
[10:44] <S-Angeli> ok
[10:44] <intelikey> S-Angeli the -R is recursive   but -a also preserves ownership and perms.
[10:45] <intelikey> nonuda ok     ls /dev/hd?
[10:45] <nonuda> intelikey: ok wait
[10:45] <rado_> caute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:45] <koen93_> Lol
[10:45] <rado_> je tu niekto zo slovenska?
[10:46] <nonuda> intelikey: it said no such file or directory
[10:46] <icecruncher> !sl
[10:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <rado_> haloooooooooooooo
[10:46] <intelikey> nonuda ok.   that's what i figured.       nonuda do you know the partition number for the linux system ?
[10:47] <soon> I have a hardware question (but I use kubuntu, so it okay :-) : my KISS dvd player is network aware and has a regular old RJ-45 network socket. I have a functioning LAN with wireless and wired dhcp clients (and a router obviously). The KISS player is too far away for a wired connetion - how do I connect it wireless?
[10:47] <intelikey> nonuda oh one more test first.     ls -l /dev/root
[10:47] <S-Angeli> soon,  by typing "cp Mail/ /media/sdb2/kubuntu/sangeli/ -R" will it create the folder Mail or will it install under sangeli root?
[10:47] <nonuda> intelikey: thats what i don't know, but i will try to move the hardisk cable, so bios detect it as hardisk drive 0
[10:48] <nonuda> intelikey: ok..wait
[10:48] <S-Angeli> intelikey, by typing "cp Mail/ /media/sdb2/kubuntu/sangeli/ -R" will it create the folder Mail or will it install under sangeli root?
[10:48] <soon> S-Angeli it will copy you /Mail folder into /media.../sangeli
[10:48] <intelikey> nonuda moving the cable will only compound the problem.
[10:48] <icecruncher> everybody vote on this http://qdb.us/82983
[10:48] <S-Angeli> so it will not create Mail folder first. This men that I have to create it first?
[10:48] <intelikey> S-Angeli it will create the folder
[10:49] <S-Angeli> ok, it iwll
[10:49] <S-Angeli> thks
[10:49] <soon> the best thing S-Angeli is to create a testfile in a testfolder and give it a shot!
[10:49] <soon> just to try things out for yourself
[10:49] <S-Angeli> yes
[10:49] <nonuda> intelikey: ls -l /dev/root said no such file or directory
[10:49] <soon> how to connect my KISS player - anyone?
[10:49] <intelikey> nonuda ok.   lets see what i can do with minimal information.
[10:50] <nonuda> intelikey: ok
[10:50] <S-Angeli> why I get errors when cp files, like this error "cp: impossibile creare il file normale `/media/sdb2/kubuntu/sangeli/Mail/.Linux.directory/.KDE.directory/KDE - Pim-users/cur/1163738372.5097.BaDni:2,S': Argomento non valido"
[10:51] <intelikey> nonuda    mknod /dev/hdb1 b 3 65
[10:52] <intelikey> nonuda  when we get this thing mounted for you the fix is pretty easy.  one command to generate a new initramfs.img file  and you should be good to go.   it's getting to that point the will be slow.  so be patient.  k
[10:53] <nonuda> intelikey: ok..done mknod....
[10:53] <olid> anyone else had knetworkmanager disapear in fesity? stopped using fwcutter and now i have wlan up but manager wont load
[10:53] <intelikey> nonuda ok.   mount /dev/hda1 /root          (it will probably error out, don't be alarmed)
[10:54] <intelikey> ooops   mount /dev/hdb1 /root
[10:54] <nonuda> k
[10:54] <intelikey> sorry.
[10:54] <intelikey> it's hdb not hda   i'll try to keep that in mind....
[10:55] <nonuda> ah ok
[10:55] <intelikey> nonuda   does   " mount /dev/hdb1 /root "    give errors   yes or no ?
[10:56] <nonuda> intelikey: done, and it said no such file.....btw ls /dev was showing me hdc, hdc1 snd soon
[10:56] <intelikey> oh ok.
[10:56] <intelikey> i thought you said no hd?  on that.    sorry.  we'll move on.
[10:57] <intelikey> nonuda ok.  mount /dev/hdc1 /root      what does it say ?
[10:57] <nonuda> sorry, ok wait
[10:57] <voicu> hi, configure - kdesktop doesn't work... it doesn't change the wallpaper at all. this happened with all versions of kde up to 3.5.6 at some point. any idea why?
[10:58] <intelikey> voicu beryl ?
[10:59] <voicu> well i did install compiz but then removed it because it doesn't support my card
[10:59] <icecruncher> voicu: did you update?
[10:59] <voicu> everything is up to date
[10:59] <ScarFreewill> !release
[10:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[11:00] <voicu> i also had two monitors for some time. it was working then, not sure when stopped working
[11:00] <intelikey> nonuda   did it mount ?        (oh and just to help you simplify things the up arrow key works in the busybox shell to recall command history just like it does in bash)
[11:00] <nonuda> intelikey: ls /dev give me a lot of result and at the last line i saw disk, hdc, hdc1 and soon but ls /dev/hd said no such file ...., and mount /dev/hdc1 /root said "mounting /dev/hdc1 on /root failed: invalid argument"
[11:00] <ScarFreewill> hi how can i stream audio off smb (can amarok?)
[11:01] <voicu> when opening the config window the settings i put are there just that they don't affect the desktop
[11:02] <intelikey> nonuda yes   " ls /dev/hd "   would fail,   but   " ls /dev/hd? "   should match all hd disks.   maybe you omitted the question mark.   it's a wild-card for the ls command.
[11:02] <nonuda> intelikey: oh i see, ok...whats next
[11:02] <intelikey> nonuda ok  mount /dev/hdc2 /root
[11:03] <nonuda> ok
[11:03] <intelikey> we are stepping through the partitions to see if we can mount any of them.
[11:04] <ScarFreewill> is there a media player that can stream over smb?
[11:04] <intelikey> nonuda one more quick question.  do you happen to know the fs type that linux is installed onto ?     ext3 maybe ?
[11:04] <icecruncher> !upgrade > icecruncher
[11:05] <intelikey> !worksforme > icecruncher
[11:05] <intelikey> :)
[11:05] <icecruncher> lol
[11:06] <icecruncher> !patience > intelikey
[11:06] <nonuda> intelikey: ls /dev/hd* show me hdc5, hdc2, hdc1, hdc and hdb1 i have try mount on them but it said invalid argument, except hdb1 said no such device
[11:07] <nonuda> intelikey: yes i know..ext3
[11:07] <intelikey> nonuda ok.     modprobe ext3
[11:07] <nonuda> ok
[11:08] <intelikey> nonuda try again,    mount /dev/hdc2 /root
[11:08] <nonuda> intelikey: done, no error
[11:08] <ant_ipop>  i need help reporting a bug: its a problem about kde freezing, what package/product should i choose for the report ?
[11:08] <intelikey> and   mount /dev/hdc5 /root
[11:09] <intelikey> ant_ipop the one causing kde to trip out     beryl maybe ?
[11:09] <nonuda> intelikey: EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock
[11:09] <intelikey> nonuda ok and on  hda5 ?
[11:10] <nonuda> hdc5 still said invalid argument
[11:10] <ant_ipop> intelikey: nope its when downloading, and i get the freeze only if i download several large files the same time, and i get it with KGet, Firefox Download manager and other
[11:11] <intelikey> ant_ipop network releated then.   io error most likely
[11:11] <ant_ipop> intelikey: which package, kernel ?
[11:12] <nonuda> intelikey: hdc5 still said invalid argument
[11:12] <intelikey> nonuda let me look into that error message and get back to you.
[11:12] <nonuda> intelikey: i'm running out of time, my wife has calling me !!!
[11:13] <nonuda> intelikey: can we continue it tommorow?
[11:13] <intelikey> nonuda  indeed.
[11:14] <nonuda> intelikey: but i have figure it out now, if we succed mounted it,i guess then we edit the grub right?
[11:15] <intelikey> nonuda no we make a new initramfs.img file and it mounts it correctly when you boot.   the problem is not grub.  it is initramfs
[11:15] <intelikey> nonuda wait
[11:15] <nonuda> intelikey: ah..ok i see...
[11:15] <nonuda> ok
[11:16] <intelikey> nonuda before you leave try    mount /dev/hdc1 /root
[11:16] <nonuda> ok
[11:16] <intelikey> it just dawned on me that the hdc5 is swap.
[11:17] <nonuda> ah..it seems ok, got no error the last line said "mounted file system with ordered data mode"
[11:17] <intelikey> nonuda ok type     exit
[11:17] <nonuda> intelikey: ok
[11:17] <ubuntu_> how do i extract a tar.gz to a specified directory
[11:18] <intelikey> ubuntu_ that is covered in the manual page,   man tar
[11:18] <ubuntu_> this is how i tried it tar -cvvzf /media/usbdisk/pkgs/afrspell.tar.gz ~/.openoffice.org2/user/wordbook/
[11:18] <ubuntu_> intelikey: i usually first go read man pages before i ask on irc
[11:19] <nonuda> intelikey: ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist, droping to a shell
[11:19] <nonuda> intelikey: what next, i hope my wife would wait..hehehe
[11:19] <intelikey> nonuda   ls /root    is it full of folders like   /bin /root /boot  ?
[11:20] <nonuda> intelikey: yup
[11:20] <intelikey> nonuda ok cat /root/etc/fstab
[11:21] <intelikey> does it list   /dev/hdc1 / ext3 ....    ?
[11:21] <nonuda> ok
[11:21] <cvrse> ubuntu_: tar -xzvf /media/usbdisk/pkgs/afrspell.tar.gz -C ~/.openoffice.org2/user/wordbook/
[11:21] <ubuntu_> cvrse: thx will try now
[11:22] <intelikey> ubuntu_    i'm glad you usually do... don't know why this was the exception...
[11:22] <nonuda> intelikey: no..its hda5 as ext3 and hda1 as swap
[11:22] <intelikey> nonuda there is the problem
[11:23] <espenbe> Hi! do any of you know how to make gnome-programs get focus in KDE?  when I start a e.g. gimp, the program does not get focus.  If I however start a native KDE-program it gets focus...
[11:23] <nonuda> ahh..ok then how do i fix it?
[11:23] <intelikey> nonuda  you'll have to edit it     nano /root/etc/fstab
[11:23] <nonuda> ok
[11:23] <nonuda> chagne it to hdc?
[11:23] <intelikey> yes   hdc1
[11:24] <nonuda> the swap to?
[11:24] <intelikey>  /dev/hdc1 / ext3 defaults 0 0
[11:24] <icecruncher> !upgrade
[11:24] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[11:24] <intelikey> or make the last 0 a 1
[11:24] <icecruncher> has anyone followed this link succesfully? http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade
[11:25] <intelikey>  /dev/hdc1 / ext3 defaults 0 1
[11:25] <gemidjy_> anyone has ideas on how to make dhcp not overwrite my /etc/resolv.conf with its own nameservers?
[11:25] <intelikey> need to force checking on that mount.
[11:25] <nonuda> damn...nano not found !!
[11:25] <intelikey> nonuda vi   ?
[11:25] <nonuda> ok wait
[11:25] <max_> m
[11:26] <nonuda> intelikey: not even vi !!
[11:26] <Cugel> nonuda: pico
[11:26] <nonuda> ok
[11:26] <intelikey> nonuda   then it may have to be dont from a live CD
[11:27] <intelikey> nonuda one other idea.     chroot /root/      if that works you are affectively in the real system.
[11:28] <intelikey> all normal commands work.
[11:28] <nonuda> ok
[11:29] <nonuda> it said cam't access tty, job contriol turn off
[11:29] <intelikey> nonuda that's fine
[11:29] <intelikey> nano etc/fstab
[11:29] <nonuda> ok
[11:31] <nonuda> intelikey: done..edit it and save it
[11:31] <intelikey> better check boot/grub/device*   and  boot/grub/menu.lst    also  make sure it says root=/dev/hdc1
[11:31] <intelikey> ignore the  boot/grub/device*
[11:31] <nonuda> ok
[11:31] <intelikey>  that was a trnsent thought.
[11:31] <intelikey> check   boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:32] <intelikey> my A key is sticky....
[11:32] <icecruncher> what is the best way to update your system to edgy?
[11:32] <icecruncher> don't give me !update
[11:33] <intelikey> wait two weaks and dl the feisty cd and install it.
[11:33] <icecruncher> lol
[11:33] <icecruncher> me don't got empty cd's
[11:33] <Cugel> What about that upgrade page is hard to understand?
[11:34] <nonuda> intelikey: done..should i reboot now
[11:34] <nonuda> ?
[11:34] <icecruncher> the one they give you, i dont know if it works, wanna be shure because i upated  yesterday and got lot's of problems
[11:34] <intelikey> it should release by then    and everyone will be telling you 'you got to upgrade, cause this is so much better...'     of course it wont be.  it will have it's full share of bugs just like all other releases
[11:34] <intelikey> nonuda exit
[11:34] <intelikey> nonuda exit   again
[11:35] <icecruncher> intelikey: all I wanna do is upgrade to edgy
[11:35] <Cugel> ice: don't worry, it's all a matter of updating a lot of packages.
[11:35] <Cugel> So follow the leads on that page.
[11:35] <icecruncher> which one, the one i posted?
[11:35] <icecruncher> or !update ?
[11:35] <Cugel> Yeah, the one you pasted.
[11:35] <nonuda> intelikey: i still got the ALERT! hda1
[11:35] <icecruncher> k
[11:36] <intelikey> icecruncher change the word dapper to edgy in /etc/apt/sources.list   (all of them)  do   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:36] <icecruncher> yeah yeah
[11:36] <intelikey> nonuda umount /root
[11:36] <icecruncher> know how
[11:36] <icecruncher> lol
[11:36] <Cugel> intellikey: he knows that but he's a bit afraid (I can imagine why)
[11:36] <Cugel> I'm not updating to Feisty beta yet because I'm chicken.
[11:36] <icecruncher> lol
[11:37] <intelikey> icecruncher that's how.   you asked i answered
[11:37] <icecruncher> thanks
[11:37] <nbcb> !debian
[11:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[11:37] <nonuda> intelikey: done
[11:37] <nonuda> intelikey: done..its unmounted now
[11:37] <intelikey> nonuda now you can  ctrl+alt+del
[11:37] <nbcb> ubuntu is not debian?
[11:38] <Cugel> ubuntu is _based_ on Debian.
[11:38] <Cugel> But indeed, they are different distributions.
[11:38] <intelikey> nbcb no it's not.  it is a debian dirivative
[11:38] <nonuda> intelikey: ok..thanks
[11:38] <icecruncher> Cugel:  you think i can put the commands on that page into a script (except for the text editor part) ?
[11:38] <Cugel> ice: of course you cna.
[11:39] <Cugel> It's only a list of relatively simple commands, so yeah.
[11:39] <icecruncher> just paste them, name it .sh give it +x and run it?
[11:39] <ScarFreewill> any1 knows a nice charater map type of app?
[11:39] <Cugel> That might work.
[11:39] <nonuda> intelikey: its boot up and running .... thanks
[11:39] <nbcb> !distro
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about distro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <nonuda> gtg now...bye guys
[11:39] <icecruncher> Cugel, how would you do it?
[11:40] <ScarFreewill> !charatermap
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about charatermap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <Cugel> I'd use a bash script, probably, so similarly.
[11:40] <Lynoure> icecruncher: thank you for the confirm on that bug :)
[11:40] <icecruncher> Lynoure, np
[11:41] <nbcb> is ubuntu consider a distro ?
[11:41] <intelikey> icecruncher if you want to make sure that it does upgrade   you can do something like   for Q in `dpkg -l | grep '^ii' | cut -d' ' -f3` ;do sudo apt-get remove --purge -y $Q ;done    before the upgrade then install kubuntu-desktop after....     convoluted i know.   but i have done that and upgraded from hoary to dapper skipping breezy completely
[11:43] <ScarFreewill> !kwordquiz
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kwordquiz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <intelikey> and yes that will remove "ALL" non-essential packages.   meaning you could loose network connectivity in the process....    it's not for the novice not the faint of heart
[11:43] <ScarFreewill> i'm looking for some thing like http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdeedu/kwordquiz/kwq-dlg-characters.png
[11:47] <nbcb> what's the difference between installing debian and kde, and installing kubuntu itself ?
[11:48] <lenscape> nbcb: debian+kde != kubuntu
[11:48] <_dennis_> and debian+gnome is ubuntu
[11:49] <nbcb> lenscape: does that answer my question?
[11:51] <lenscape> nbcb: your question is pretty open. I don't have time to write a book about it
[11:51] <ubuntu__> !info kcharselect
[11:52] <_dennis_> nbcb i think kubuntu is a streamlined version of kde + debian, if you just install both it might be less user friendly etc (i guess)
[11:52] <ubotu> kcharselect: character selector for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 71 kB, installed size 340 kB
[11:52] <lenscape> kubuntian: is based on debian, meaning that file locations, tools and update processes are common but kubuntu has many refinements
[11:53] <lenscape> nbcb: Kubuntu is based on debian, meaning that file locations, tools and update processes are common but kubuntu has many refinements
[11:54] <lenscape> that's better
[11:55] <tmske> how can I check which java jre eclipse is using?
[11:55] <lenscape> nbcb: Kubuntu also has a bit of a 'nannying' approach, trying to simplify for new users.  Help!
[11:56] <intelikey> "refinements"    heh
[11:58] <lenscape> intelikey: well, some people like them
[11:58] <intelikey> :)
[11:59] <intelikey> lenscape i know.     some people like M$ windows
[11:59] <intelikey> :)
[12:00] <tuco> If I say I like Msoft would I get help?
[12:00] <lenscape> intelikey: no, I don't think so
[12:00] <tuco> :-)
[12:00] <intelikey> tuco probably not.  but you'd need it   lol
[12:00] <tuco> anyway i need serious help!
[12:01] <intelikey> tuco had to reinstall kubuntu because of issues with a vidio driver      tisk tisk....
[12:01] <tuco> running on a laptop, reso is 1024x768 but it needs to be 1280x800, and I have an ati x1400 card installed.
[12:02] <tuco> basically after I installed the driver I changed to fglrx in the display control panel, kubuntu froze completely at boot.
[12:03] <tuco> yeah I know intel it is funny. But I am a beginner here, not Intel the Grey like yourself mate :-)
[12:04] <intelikey> "grey" now am i   ;/
[12:05] <intelikey> tuco i wish i could help you on that.   i know nothing of the ati drivers other than they are propritary and i don't want nothin to do with propritary krap.    sorry.
[12:06] <intelikey> tuco but as to being "Grey"   familearize yourself with the console, magic SysRQ keys and you too will be "Grey"
[12:09] <intelikey> tuco in fact, you get that ati thing streightened out without reloading and you will be much 'greyer' than i am.  you'll be pale white   :)
[12:13] <tuco> believe me mate, Kubuntu froze three times on me after I installed the drivers and change to fglrx. I am getting tired of reinstalling.
[12:13] <smile> hi linuxians .. can I upgrade my dist on many times  ?
[12:14] <intelikey> smile yep
[12:14] <tuco> right now my biggest concern is: getting the ati drivers to work, getting the webcam to work and adding more repositories
[12:14] <smile> intelikey: I mean devide the operation on many times
[12:14] <tuco> and oh having my audigy card running by default too!
[12:14] <intelikey> smile the dl portion yes.
[12:15] <smile> intelikey: dl ?
[12:15] <intelikey> smile   " sudo apt-get -d dist-upgrade "    that's the command you are looking for.
[12:16] <smile> intelikey: than ? i can type ctrl+c when I want
[12:16] <intelikey> yep
[12:16] <zumsuk> hi linux mint very good
[12:17] <tuco> please someone help before I blow a fuse!
[12:19] <intelikey> tuco you can ask in #ubuntu also.   the answers will be more gnome oriented "editors, menu listings..."  but the actual drive and xorg are not de specific  so....
[12:20] <smile> intelikey: -d is for download only !! so apt-get will not install the new packs !
[12:20] <intelikey> driver ^
[12:20] <intelikey> smile correct not until you issue the command without the -d  then it will install them.
[12:20] <tuco> But I am running KDE Intel. Geez what it is so hard to install those drivers?
[12:21] <smile> intelikey: what u mean exactly ?
[12:21] <intelikey> tuco Geez  but you are running xorg  and that's where the driver is used  not in kde.
[12:21] <smile> intelikey: i must use -d or no ?
[12:22] <tuco> So I should use Gnome?
[12:22] <intelikey> smile   yes  use  -d   to "fetch" the packages,   you can interrupt it at any time.
[12:22] <smile> intelikey: and what to do to install the after ?
[12:23] <soon> Recommend to me please, a program to list all IP's on my LAN (a sniffer?)
[12:23] <intelikey> tuco no.      the driver is not used by gnome either.   it's used by xorg   the x-window-system on your machine.   and whether you use gnome or kde or xfce or blackbox/fluxbox  doesn't matter it's all running in an X window
[12:24] <tuco> What a sucker!
[12:24] <tuco> Ah well at least you can tell me how to add more repos, to get more packages. :-)
[12:25] <pollyo> Aegis found a virus in the wine directory.  Amazing how fast anything to do with windows turns up these critters.
[12:25] <pollyo> Well under not the wine directory but the working directory for windows programs.
[12:26] <tuco> I had more packages available from the US then GB. But of course lost the list, anybody has a decent list source?
[12:26] <intelikey> that i can.      add " universe multiverse "  without the quotes,  to the lines that say   " main restricted "     in your /etc/apt/sources.list      and update the package database.   " sudo apt-get update "
[12:27] <intelikey> tuco you can   kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list    to edit it.
[12:27] <intelikey> or sudo nano /etc......
[12:28] <tuco> can I change gb to us?
[12:28] <intelikey> yes
[12:28] <tuco> by keeping the default list I have since the install?
[12:28] <intelikey> or remove the country code altogather   it will work without it as well
[12:29] <tuco> I want to have more packages that I have now that's all.
[12:29] <intelikey>   add " universe multiverse "  without the quotes,  to the lines that say   " main restricted "     in your /etc/apt/sources.list      and update the package database.   " sudo apt-get update "
[12:30] <tuco> all done, but I don't seem to find firefox in adept!
[12:30] <intelikey> so says "intel the Grey" !
[12:30] <tuco> and fglrx ati drivers
[12:30] <intelikey> tuco did you update the database ?
[12:30] <ant_ipop> is it possible to make the taskbar only shows tasks from the current desktop ?
[12:30] <tuco> At the moment you are in single core mode :-)
[12:31] <tuco> yes sir
[12:31] <intelikey> ant_ipop right click the taskbar configure
[12:32] <intelikey> it's in there.   show only windows from the current desktop
[12:32] <livenicely_> when i play .dat file in kaffine i can hear sound but only movie
[12:32] <livenicely_> ?
[12:33] <livenicely_> when i play .dat file in kaffine i can hear sound but only movie
[12:33] <intelikey> !repeat
[12:33] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:33] <ant_ipop> intelikey: i dont see that option :/
[12:33] <hyper_ch> intelikey: there are more graphical servers than just x11 right?
[12:34] <tuco> Intel I have some error messages, where can i paste them to show you please?
[12:34] <intelikey> hyper_ch xfree  xorg  and  glx   as far as i know
[12:34] <intelikey> or xgl
[12:34] <hyper_ch> :) thx
[12:35] <hyper_ch> intelikey: because someone installed ubuntu-base and then gnome and wonders why x isn't a dependency... hence I thought there must be more than one to choose from
[12:36] <intelikey> hyper_ch   xserver-xorg
[12:36] <ant_ipop> intelikey: i see a menu where i can configure my 3 mouse buttons and on top some options about grouping and others
[12:36] <intelikey> that's the *buntu default
[12:36] <hyper_ch> thx intelikey
[12:36] <tuco> Intel do you mind having a look at the error message?
[12:36] <mrigns|Zzz> !pastebin | tuco
[12:36] <ubotu> tuco: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:37] <intelikey> tuco i'll gladly look at it.  but you are playing in someone elses sandbox  i know nothing of ati....
[12:37] <tuco> no it is only about my repos right now
[12:37] <tuco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14692/
[12:38] <intelikey> tuco oh.     you can comment out the  line that begins with  cdrom
[12:39] <tuco> remove it you mean?
[12:39] <intelikey> tuco  comment     prepended # means comment
[12:39] <intelikey> #this is a comment
[12:39] <livenicely_> when i play .dat file in kaffine i can hear sound but only movie
[12:40] <intelikey> this is a command as opposed to a comment
[12:40] <tuco> You are getting greyer now!
[12:40] <tuco> you want me to comment that line is that right?
[12:41] <intelikey> tuco yep
[12:41] <tuco> well I have no idea :-)
[12:41] <tuco> you are the expert dude not me
[12:42] <intelikey> meaning make the line that says  "cdrom:....."  say  "#cdrom:...
[12:42] <intelikey> in your /etc/apt/sources.list   you know.
[12:42] <intelikey> you know.
[12:42] <intelikey> you can do it.
[12:42] <tuco> yes I am in there now
[12:43] <tuco> should it be like that: deb # cdrom:[Kubuntu 6.10 _Edgy Eft_ - Release i386 (20061025)] / edgy universe multiverse
[12:43] <mrigns> intelikey: did you read? your da man!
[12:43] <tuco> (shhhh let him think that damn it)
[12:43] <intelikey> see you are getting greyer as we go
[12:43] <intelikey> mrigns ?
[12:43] <mrigns> just bored
[12:43] <livenicely_> when i play .dat file in kaffine i cant hear sound but only movie
[12:43] <livenicely_> when i play .dat file in kaffine i cant hear sound but only movie
[12:43] <tuco> only that line Intel Core?
[12:44] <mrigns> !repeat
[12:44] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:44] <intelikey> tuco only that one line.
[12:44] <comp01> #orhei
[12:44] <tuco> ok sir
[12:44] <chijin> !codecs | livenicely_
[12:44] <ubotu> livenicely_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:44] <intelikey> that's the only error you were getting.
[12:44] <comp01> soryna_
[12:44] <tuco> got that: E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI)
[12:45] <chijin> tuco: you need to put the # at the beginning of the line, before "deb"
[12:45] <tuco> I told you you see ;_)
[12:45] <intelikey> yeah   first char.    did i mis inform ?
[12:46] <tuco> ok it worked now :-)
[12:46] <tuco> so if I change gb to us I should get more packages...like firefox and fglrx etc?
[12:47] <geggam> tuco:
[12:47] <tuco> yo
[12:47] <geggam> http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[12:47] <geggam> look at that
[12:47] <intelikey> tuco no.   changing the mirror should "not" affect the number or version of packages.   adding the other repos will   the    universe multiverse
[12:48] <tuco> so something needs to be added up then! mmmm
[12:48] <intelikey> you did that   didn't you ?
[12:48] <tuco> I want to have firefox and fglrx in adept...simply!
[12:48] <soryna> sal
[12:48] <tuco> Yes boss I did
[12:49] <tuco> and in 10 days when Feisty comes out, it will be the same upgrade circus! Tadah!
[12:49] <intelikey> oh wait.  i see you don't have main.      add this whole line.  without quotes.   "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiverse"
[12:50] <geggam> heh
[12:50] <hyper_ch> intelikey: how can I boot ubuntu into a shell and not into x11?
[12:50] <tuco> Ah you see...you see you misguided me hey!
[12:50] <geggam> i am on feisty tuco
[12:51] <sonoftheclayr> hyper_ch: at the grub menu select recovery mode
[12:51] <intelikey> tuco no  i deny that.   main should have been there already.   maybe it's commented out.
[12:51] <intelikey> hyper_ch append 1  or  single   to the kernel line at boot time.
[12:51] <tuco> tss tss tss
[12:52] <geggam> Linux lappy2 2.6.20-14-386 #2 Mon Apr 2 20:34:35 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:52] <hyper_ch> intelikey: how to do that?
[12:52] <geggam> much nicer
[12:52] <tuco> aaaaaaaaaaaaaah 20205 packages. Now we are talking :-)
[12:53] <intelikey> hyper_ch [esc]     select the boot option and hit  E    select the kernel line and hit   E    add "1" to the end and  hit [enter]    hit   B
[12:53] <intelikey> tuco see    you see   see what i'm saying now....
[12:53] <intelikey> :)
[12:54] <hyper_ch> intelikey: thx
[12:54] <intelikey> np
[12:54] <tuco> ah what...ah
[12:54] <livenicely_> i wana listen mp3 songs in amarock
[12:54] <livenicely_> but no sound stream is available
[12:54] <geggam> !fre
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <geggam> !jre
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <geggam> bah !
[12:54] <intelikey> !mp3 | livenicely_
[12:54] <ubotu> livenicely_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:54] <intelikey> !java | geggam
[12:54] <ubotu> geggam: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[12:55] <pjcrosier> livenicely_, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly and libxine-extracodecs should help
[12:55] <tuco> All I want now is to deal with the ati drivers. Please somebody help! Intel is pretending not to know...(well we can't blame him for being a bit lazy can't we?) :-)
[12:56] <geggam> ty intelikey  ....
[12:56] <intelikey> tuco you can ask about that in  #ubuntu   maybe someone in there can help.     as i said eariler it's not kde specific  it's  xorg specific.
[12:57] <intelikey> geggam np
[12:57] <tuco> Will do sir :-) thanks for your help anyway ;-)
[12:57] <intelikey> you bet
[12:57] <intelikey> :)
[12:58] <tuco> (I was just waxing lyrical)
[12:58] <geggam> coming from BSD and debian ubuntu makes me feel like i havent done something because it is so easy ... yesterday i installed dapper and last night i changed sources to feisty and i am on a solid feisty kubuntu this morning
[12:59] <intelikey> tuco pay me no mind on that,  i do tend to ride things like that way to far.
[12:59] <chair> Anyone using normalize-audio with K3B in Kubuntu 7.04?
[12:59] <chair> it doesn't work fo me
[01:00] <tuco> Poor Intel ;-)
[01:00] <soryna_> pretik la toti
[01:00] <intelikey> geggam i agree it leaves some to be desired...
[01:01] <geggam> generally i stay away from the latest fanboy distribution but i had some clients inquire about this...
[01:01] <geggam> i think i will have to start supporting it
[01:02] <intelikey> do i know you from  irc.chatjunkies.org #linux   ?
[01:03] <geggam> prolly
[01:03] <geggam> long time ago
[01:03] <raidmax> does anyone here kno any perl coding
[01:03] <intelikey> thought so.   just call me Christian
[01:03] <geggam> heh
[01:03] <geggam> k
[01:04] <intelikey> raidmax there is a   #perl  channel
[01:05] <raidmax> is there wat is the address for it
[01:05] <raidmax> im new to this IRC stuff
[01:05] <intelikey> /join #perl
[01:06] <archangel_> hey, what does it mean if I type a command in (such as to update dapper) in terminal and it exepts the command (no error), but does nothing
[01:07] <intelikey> means that the command either accepts the agrument but doesn't act on it    or is not coded to give error message on bad input
[01:08] <archangel_> like apt-get upgrade     #reboot    those commands render nothing
[01:08] <archangel_> how do I fix that?
[01:08] <intelikey> archangel_   use sudo
[01:09] <archangel_> i'm already in root
[01:09] <intelikey> and it does nothing ?
[01:09] <archangel_> zilch
[01:10] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]  apt-get upgrade
[01:10] <intelikey> Reading package lists... Done
[01:10] <intelikey> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:10] <intelikey> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:10] <archangel_> just brings up the prompt again as if it carried it out
[01:10] <intelikey> which apt-get
[01:10] <intelikey> file `which apt-get`     even
[01:11] <archangel_> I also get no report ( 0 upgraded, 0 installed etc..)
[01:11] <intelikey> file `which apt-get`
[01:11] <pjcrosier> that would mean it's working then - it is outputting something ;)
[01:11] <archangel_> # apt-get -s -u dist-upgrade | grep ^' ' | xargs apt-get -y install
[01:12] <pjcrosier> (duh, wrong channel)
[01:12] <archangel_> that should give me a pretty display, shouldnt it?
[01:12] <archangel_> just brings up the prompt again
[01:12] <geggam> why all the extra crap  ?
[01:13] <geggam> grep line begins with space ?
[01:13] <soon> I need a program which can tell me what IPs are available on my LAN ... any suggestions?
[01:13] <archangel_> wiki kubuntu (step by step instructions)
[01:13] <geggam> why the xargs
[01:13] <pjcrosier> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade (as root, should work)
[01:13] <geggam> someone needs to fix that wiki
[01:14] <archangel_> wow, now THAT worked
[01:15] <geggam> soon ... an IP subnet calculater would tell u by using your netmask and IP
[01:15] <soon> is there a nice GUI that you know of?
[01:15] <geggam> not for ubuntu
[01:15] <geggam> i have one on the PDA
[01:15] <geggam> >:]
[01:16] <soon> gipsc ...
[01:17] <soon> not instalable though
[01:17] <V> Hey u damn kdonkeys
[01:17] <archangel_> I did those two commands, does that mean I am upgraded ?
[01:17] <V> Gnome RULES YOU ASSHOLES
[01:17] <soon> Nobody rules my arsehole !
[01:17] <pjcrosier> yep, with the repos you have setup in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:17] <intelikey> !ops
[01:17] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal
[01:18] <V> I do
[01:18] <archangel_> both worked ( however, apt-get dist-upgrade got me "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[01:18] <V> GTK does
[01:18] <pjcrosier> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade is the other way
[01:18] <manu_> hi
[01:18] <manu_> cant see anything in xawtv, it doeasnt start :(
[01:18] <pjcrosier> though you might just be upto date :)
[01:18] <manu_> http://paste.debian.net/25244
[01:19] <geggam> upgrade only upgrades installed packages
[01:19] <manu_> hope you can help
[01:19] <geggam> dist-upgrade moves to the next version
[01:20] <archangel_> dist-upgrade gives me this --->  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:20] <intelikey> dist-upgrade when used without any change to the sources.list  upgrades all packages installed or newly depended upon that are listed in the updates and security repos
[01:20] <archangel_> but I am still using dapper
[01:21] <don_jr__> geggam to run dist-upgrade don't you have to update your sources.list to the next version for it to work?
[01:21] <geggam> i believe so don_jr__
[01:21] <intelikey> upgrade does the same with the exception of base system files
[01:21] <archangel_> well, I did, but have no Idea if it worked
[01:22] <don_jr__> archangel if you want to upgrade from dapper to edgy you would alter your sources.list file and change all dapper to edgy.  If you've done that and then ran it, it should have upgraded
[01:22] <archangel_> # cp /etc/apt/sources.{list,list.bak}; sed -i s/dapper/edgy/g /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:22] <geggam> btw... unless u know what u are doing dont go dapper to feisty
[01:22] <archangel_> is that the right command?
[01:22] <geggam> that was interesting
[01:22] <archangel_> this is from the wiki
[01:22] <intelikey> archangel_ looks good from here.
[01:23] <pjcrosier> check your sources.list just to be sure it worked
[01:23] <archangel_> k
[01:23] <don_jr__> archangel_ I couldn't get that to work properyly, do it in 2 steps instead of one cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.pack; sed -i s/dapper/edgy/g /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:24] <archangel_> does look like it worked
[01:24] <archangel_> "doesnt"
[01:24] <geggam> oooo ... the cooliris plugin for firefox is nice
[01:24] <intelikey> don_jr__ typo ?   cause ; is a command seperator
[01:25] <geggam> backup intelikey
[01:25] <geggam> sed can really hose a file
[01:25] <archangel_> is sed -i the start of the second command?
[01:25] <don_jr__> intelikey there must be a typo in the command on the site with the { brackets} cause it didnt' work for me.  pesonally I mannually changed them all with nano
[01:26] <adaptr> geggam: cooliris ?
[01:26] <intelikey> archangel_ yes
[01:26] <archangel_> ok
[01:26] <geggam> page preview
[01:26] <adaptr> geggam: cooliris is not a known plugin
[01:26] <geggam> er
[01:26] <geggam> links bad here ?
[01:26] <adaptr> no
[01:26] <mcboozerilla> hello, all
[01:26] <geggam> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2207
[01:26] <adaptr> thank you
[01:27] <don_jr__> archangel_ cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak; sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list   and then change it all manually from dapper to edgy
[01:27] <adaptr> friggin firefsck - an addon search doesnt even find that!
[01:27] <intelikey> geggam not as long as they are clean  :)
[01:27] <mcboozerilla> I need to disable the ctrl-alt switch desktop shortcut for another application but can't find the setting to do so;  where is it exactly?
[01:27] <mcboozerilla> I mean, ctrl-tab
[01:28] <archangel_> to do that just change all refferences? erase dapper and put in edgy?
[01:28] <don_jr__> anyone else here using nvidia drivers with edgy that cannot change thier screen res wtihin kde?  I can't get mine to change
[01:29] <don_jr__> archangel_ correct
[01:29] <archangel_> sorry for the dumb ?'s
[01:29] <archangel_> lol
[01:29] <don_jr__> archangel_ only dumb question is the one you don't ask! =)
[01:30] <archangel_> hey, it looks like it worked
[01:30] <pjcrosier> don_jr__, i had to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:30] <pjcrosier> iirc
[01:30] <archangel_> everything already says edgy
[01:30] <don_jr__> pjcrosier you did that after installing the nvidia drivers and it didn't screw it up?
[01:30] <intelikey> time to do rounds      later all.
[01:30] <geggam> don_jr__,  why didnt that work ?.... it worked here
[01:30] <geggam> different shell ?
[01:30] <pjcrosier> yeah i think so
[01:31] <archangel_> cant find dapper anywhere
[01:31] <don_jr__> geggam I don't know why it didin't work, but it didin't for me...maybe I typed it in wrong or something, I'll admit I've done that before! lol
[01:31] <archangel_> sweet
[01:31] <geggam> heh
[01:31] <archangel_> now what do I do?
[01:31] <geggam> good point
[01:31] <don_jr__> archangel_ if it all says edgy, then it's done.  now you can do the apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:31] <don_jr__> or maybe should sudo apt-get upgrade first
[01:31] <archangel_> cool thanks
[01:31] <archangel_> oh ok
[01:32] <geggam> i am sort of curious why sudo so much on single user machines
[01:32] <geggam> good habits ?
[01:32] <don_jr__> geggam what would you prefer?  I did a few things logged in directly as su once....it didn't turn out well, I just use sudo now! lol
[01:33] <geggam> i have hosed a few machines but after u do that u tend to pay attention to commands u issue
[01:33] <archangel_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:34] <don_jr__> Bahhh I cna't get domino to compile.....
[01:34] <archangel_> am I already running edgy?
[01:34] <geggam> i think i can see the point of appealing to non geeks with something that protects them from hosing things
[01:34] <pjcrosier> cat /etc/issue <-- that might let you know which kubuntu you're using? :)
[01:35] <don_jr__> are there any other dev libraries I can get in bulk other than build-esentials?  I have build-essentials and i"m still getting alot of missing things when I ./configure
[01:35] <archangel_> grrrrrrr      6.06
[01:35] <geggam> module-assistant ?
[01:36] <pjcrosier> tbh, i'm not sure if that would change or not, but you'd think it would
[01:36] <archangel_> gotta run
[01:36] <archangel_> I will try again later
[01:36] <archangel_> thanks all
[01:36] <geggam> don_jr__,  why not build a package via apt from source
[01:36] <geggam> that should get u everything u need
[01:36] <geggam> then do your own
[01:38] <don_jr__> geggam I'm a bit new here, what ya mean?  I"m trying to install the domino-4.0 style off of kde-look.org.  but when i configure i get alot of ....no answers to things that should be there like xlf, g77, f77, pgf90 and others
[01:38] <geggam> does domino need those to compile ?
[01:39] <geggam> don_jr__,
[01:39] <don_jr__> geggam I would assume so, it finishes configureing then when I make there's errors and it won't finish
[01:39] <geggam> ah
[01:40] <geggam> apt-get -b source $PACKAGE
[01:40] <don_jr__> geggam it could be a problem with the download I gess...going to download a new one and see, it's saying there are missing declerations, could be bad .h files or something.....I dont' know.  I know I got it to install on my laptop though
[01:41] <geggam> apt-get install g77
[01:41] <gnomefreak> don_jr__: install build-essential
[01:41] <geggam> try that don_jr__
[01:41] <gnomefreak> it will grab everything you need to build
[01:42] <geggam> gnomefreak, it doenst seem to grab g77
[01:42] <don_jr__> geggam it's working now, and gnomefreak I have that already, it doesn't have everything by far, I've still had to add 3 or 4 things after that, like the kde dev files and a few others
[01:42] <geggam> just be happy u dont have to do that for every package don_jr__
[01:42] <don_jr__> geggam that g77 appears to have fixed all the 'no' answers
[01:42] <geggam> that was called dependency hell
[01:43] <don_jr__> geggam I'll bet it was, I just started with ubuntu about a year ago.
[01:44] <geggam> i started on mandrake 6.5
[01:44] <geggam> still have the CDs
[01:45] <manuel_> hello
[01:45] <manuel_> anyone here?
[01:45] <manuel__> hello
[01:46] <manuel__> hola
[01:46] <manuel__> hola
[01:46] <manuel__> hello
[01:46] <manuel__> somebody
[01:46] <manuel__> here?
[01:46] <soon> hi
[01:47] <ninHer> hi manuel__
[01:47] <manuel__> okey
[01:47] <manuel__> thanks
[01:47] <soon> just ask
[01:47] <manuel__> yepe
[01:47] <don_jr__> how can I run ark as sudo within kde?
[01:47] <geggam> oppen a console
[01:47] <manuel__> how can I enter in the console by root
[01:47] <ninHer> manuel__:
[01:48] <don_jr__> manuel__ put sudo in front of the commands that need root permissions
[01:48] <ninHer> Alt+F2 and make root yourself
[01:48] <ninHer> konsole
[01:48] <fantasy> hallo alle zusammen
[01:48] <manuel__> and put su
[01:49] <manuel__> and then the password?
[01:49] <manuel__> is correct that too?
[01:49] <manuel__> ninher Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[01:49] <manuel__> i have that problem
[01:50] <don_jr__> manuel__ you can su password, but it can be dangerous to your system if you don't know exactly what your doin
[01:51] <ninHer> ehm, manuel__  are you a registered nick ?
[01:51] <fantasy> bitte um einen link fr den chat in deutsch
[01:51] <fantasy> danke
[01:51] <manuel__> I dont know
[01:51] <pjcrosier> #kubuntu-de
[01:51] <manuel__> how can i do it
[01:51] <johey> I have created a new MSN account using Kopete and my old e-mail address. Now I cannot change my nick, which is my real nick plus (E-mail address not verified). That's strange, because I have verified it. What can I do about this?
[01:51] <ninHer> fantasy i guess is kubunto-de
[01:51] <ninHer> kubuntu-de sorry
[01:52] <don_jr__> when I try to compile a style from kde-look it's telling me 'KDecoration has not been declared'   does that mena anything to anyone ehre?
[01:52] <fantasy> thank you
[01:52] <fantasy> ninHer
[01:52] <ninHer> :-)
[01:52] <fantasy> sorry i am new here
[01:53] <ninHer> fine fantasy
[01:53] <fantasy> and my english is not so god
[01:53] <don_jr__> and isn't kconfigure suppose to be a command in kde??
[01:53] <manuel__> How Can I RegIster A NiCK?
[01:53] <ninHer> so, better you go to kubuntu-de fantasy
[01:53] <pjcrosier> don_jr__, try installing kdebase-dev?
[01:54] <MuJ> manuel__: /msg nickserv help
[01:54] <fantasy> thank you
[01:54] <ninHer> manuel__ http://es.wikihow.com/registrar-un-canal-en-la-red-Freenode
[01:54] <fantasy> bye and the best day for you ninHer
[01:54] <ninHer> i suposse you are spaniard.....like me
[01:54] <ninHer> same for you fantasy
[01:55] <don_jr__> pjcrosier thank you.  I upgraded to edgy by installing ubuntu dapper server only, then I altered the sources.list to edgy and installed kubuntu-desktop.  I seem to be missing much that would come with the kubuntu edgy ISO
[01:55] <fantasy> thank's
[01:55] <fantasy> bye
[01:55] <pjcrosier> just the -dev packages are normally a manual thing
[01:55] <pjcrosier> easy to miss :)
[01:55] <manuel__> lOL i dont want register a channel
[01:56] <manuel__> just a nick...
[01:56] <don_jr__> Okay, kconfigure isn't what I thought it was.  Where do I look to change my styles and themes and what not...it was k<something>
[01:56] <sonoftheclayr> don_jr__: ksystemsettings?
[01:56] <pjcrosier>  /msg nickserv help register
[01:56] <pjcrosier> ^^ manuel__
[01:56] <don_jr__> manuel__ /msg nickserv register <password>
[01:56] <don_jr__> sonoftheclayr that's not the one I remember, but I'll try it
[01:57] <_Johny> hello. It's not Kubuntu related question but I'd like to make my "ping" print all the packets lost during pinging, just like that from windows. Anyone know how to do it?
[01:57] <Tm_T> _Johny: man ping
[01:57] <_Johny> just done that
[01:57] <Tm_T> and?
[01:57] <_Johny> It's doesn't seem to ba similair option
[01:58] <_ManUel_> hola
[01:58] <_Johny> thanks anyway
[01:58] <Tm_T> _Johny: tried -v ?
[01:58] <FFIXXX> hi in feisty my fstab mounted partitions dont show up under media:/ anymore
[01:58] <_Johny> yeah. didn't work
[01:59] <FFIXXX> is this normal, can i fix this?
[02:00] <sonoftheclayr> my tty display sort of flickers and it's really annoying
[02:00] <tuco> guys how I can make my audigy 2 card the default one?
[02:01] <pjcrosier> FFIXXX, my unmounted and mounted disks show in media:/
[02:01] <Tm_T> !audio
[02:01] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:01] <don_jr__> FFIXXX #ubuntu+1 for fiesty questions
[02:01] <sonoftheclayr> anybody know how i can make it stop flickering? i think it did it after i upgraded he bios
[02:01] <adaptr> tuco: switch the order in /etc/modules or summin
[02:02] <tuco> it shows that:
[02:02] <tuco> lp
[02:02] <tuco> sbp2
[02:02] <don_jr__> lol I don't have sound system under my system settings menu....heh
[02:02] <geggam> IRQ conflict... go to the boot bios screen and change the settings
[02:04] <tuco> sudo kate /etc/modules adaptr?
[02:06] <dromer> hi all, I resently reformated one of my partitions and now I think my fstab is "broken"
[02:06] <johey> Strange... Digikam doesn't install any .mo files in this system. On another computer with Kubuntu, it does, and it is the same package version. Why isn't any .mo files intalled on this computer?
[02:06] <dromer> I get an error during boot and the partition doesn't get mounted
[02:07] <dromer> my fstab looks a bit messy anyway (I'll pastebin it)
[02:08] <dromer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14704/
[02:09] <dromer> I tried to "fix" it because I used captive before (it was ntfs)
[02:09] <dromer> now it's (hda3) ext3
[02:09] <dromer> how can I make my fstab look proper?
[02:10] <Hobbsee> try in a captive ntfs channel, somewhere
[02:10] <Hobbsee> ie, it's an "at your own risk" package
[02:10] <tuco> I need to know how to make my audigy 2 card the default one over the hda intel onboard sound on the laptop please!
[02:11] <dromer> Hobbsee: ? your not reading it right, I'm not using captive atm, I reformated it to ext3
[02:11] <pjcrosier> system settings -> sound system -> hardware <-- tuco
[02:11] <pjcrosier> ?
[02:11] <chijin> tuco: do you use the intel one at all? if not, disable it from bios
[02:11] <tuco> It is a laptop Chijin
[02:12] <tuco> can't do it
[02:12] <dromer> Hobbsee: but this ext3-partition is set wrogly in mf fstab I guess, I just want my fstab to look neat and working :P
[02:12] <Hobbsee> dromer: ahh.  then neaten it up :)
[02:12] <tuco> I have an audigy 2 zs noteboob on the pcmia slot and it is connected.
[02:12] <tuco> notebook sorry
[02:12] <Hobbsee> dromer: looks neat to me - you really should keep the UUIDs there.
[02:12] <xtavaresx> tuco, where do i get a noteboob?!?!
[02:13] <tuco> :-)
[02:13] <dromer> Hobbsee: lemme pastebin the error I get on boot for you
[02:13] <dromer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14705/
[02:15] <Hobbsee> dromer: run ls -lh /dev/disk/by-uuid/ | grep hda3  and paste the output in here
[02:16] <dromer> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2007-04-09 14:07 ff0bc75f-9e62-4216-bece-72aa1a9b8cd9 -> ../../hda3
[02:18] <dromer> ok, s-o I should put that uuid in fstab ?
[02:20] <dromer> Hobbsee:
[02:23] <Hobbsee> dromer: yes
[02:24] <dromer> ok, and it should get mounted fine then?
[02:31] <arvid> I tried getting japanese input working with skim. Now X freezes as soon as a windows with takes input is opened :( i.e. if I startx openbox everything looks fine. As soon i start a ternimal-emulator/browser/whatever X dies
[02:31] <arvid> Any idea how to fix it?
[02:35] <dromer> hmz, I just mounted my new partition, but my user can't write anything on it
[02:35] <fantasy> ddddd
[02:36] <apokryphos> then you don't mount it allowing others to have write permissions
[02:37] <dromer> !mount
[02:37] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:38] <dromer> er .. hmm, how can I do that apokryphos ? :$
[02:38] <apokryphos> dromer: what partition and how did you mount it, with mount or in fstab?
[02:38] <amdiak_> hello
[02:38] <apokryphos> (though the bot has the instructions too)
[02:39] <apokryphos> s/partition/file system type/
[02:39] <dromer> apokryphos: it's hda3 and I mounted it with $ sudo mount /dev/hda3 /media/hda3/
[02:39] <apokryphos> what fs type?
[02:39] <amdiak_> Hello, I'm a new commer on Kubuntu
[02:39] <dromer> apokryphos: aperantly during boot fstab was wrong too (wrong uuid) and I fixed that too with the help of Hobbsee
[02:40] <dromer> apokryphos: ext3
[02:40] <apokryphos> amdiak_: welcome :)
[02:40] <amdiak_> salut apokryphos
[02:41] <apokryphos> dromer: make an fstab entry
[02:41] <dromer> apokryphos: should I reboot so the partition gets mounted by fstab correctly ?
[02:41] <dromer> apokryphos: there already is one
[02:41] <apokryphos> dromer: no need; just sudo mount -a
[02:41] <dromer> apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14704/  < this one exect different uuid now
[02:41] <apokryphos> you should never have to reboot in Linux unless you want a new kernel to be in place :P
[02:41] <dromer> hehe ok :P
[02:42] <dromer> but, I have to remount it then?
[02:42] <apokryphos> if you're not sure about the UUID then just comment it out and enter the partition /dev entry explicitly
[02:43] <dromer> apokryphos: I tsill can't write
[02:43] <apokryphos> dromer: so comment out line 8, and insert instead: /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 ext3 defaults,user 0 2
[02:44] <dromer> apokryphos: oh but I should have the right uuid now
[02:44] <apokryphos> dromer: then: sudo umount /media/hda3 && mount /media/hda3
[02:44] <apokryphos> dromer: doesn't matter
[02:44] <korrx> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCola
[02:46] <dromer> apokryphos: I then get: mount: only root can mount /dev/disk/by-uuid/ff0bc75f-9e62-4216-bece-72aa1a9b8cd9 on /media/hda3
[02:46] <apokryphos> ninHer: please turn that off
[02:46] <apokryphos> dromer: so you didn't change the fstab entry like I said :)
[02:47] <dromer> oh, no, I put the right uui in it like Hobbsee said .. but why doesn't this work then?
[02:47] <dromer> ok, I'll change it
[02:47] <Hobbsee> !away
[02:47] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[02:47] <Hobbsee> !away | ninHer
[02:47] <ubotu> ninHer: please see above
[02:47] <ninHer> apokryphos: the away ?
[02:47] <Hobbsee> ninHer: yes
[02:47] <apokryphos> ninHer: yes
[02:48] <fantasy_> please giv me a chatroom in german thenk you
[02:48] <apokryphos> ubotu: de
[02:48] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:48] <dromer> #ubuntu-de
[02:49] <dromer> apokryphos: I still get an access denied
[02:49] <apokryphos> dromer: pastebin me your /etc/fstab
[02:49] <apokryphos> dromer: and paste the exact error too
[02:49] <dromer> apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14714/
[02:50] <dromer> er, can't paste the error, it's with konqueror
[02:50] <apokryphos> dromer: you didn't comment out line 8 like I said (which is now line 9(
[02:50] <dromer> just: "access denied. Could not write to /media/hda3
[02:51] <dromer> heuh wtf, I thought I did comment it out :#
[02:51] <dromer> my bad
[02:51] <dromer> the wrong one I see :S
[02:51] <dromer> I did line 6 :P
[02:51] <apokryphos> dromer: then redo: sudo umount /media/hda3 && mount /media/hda3
[02:51] <apokryphos> =)
[02:52] <dromer> and again the error
[02:52] <apokryphos> did the command I gave you return any errors?
[02:52] <dromer> no
[02:52] <dromer> just when I try to copy something to the disk
[02:52] <apokryphos> dromer: so now: touch /media/hda3/test
[02:52] <dromer> touch: cannot touch `/media/hda3/test': Permission denied
[02:53] <apokryphos> ok, please pastebin your /etc/mtab
[02:53] <JuJuBee> I am trying to upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 and when I use update-manager -c -d I get an error...
[02:53] <JuJuBee> Authentication failed
[02:53] <JuJuBee> Authenticating the upgrade failed. There may be a problem with the network or with the server.
[02:53] <dromer> apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14716/
[02:53] <fantasy> ant the link from german chat ?
[02:54] <Linux_Galore> dromer: hda3 isnt really defined in fstab
[02:54] <dromer> hmm, ok
[02:54] <Linux_Galore> dromer: doesnt even say what file system type it is
[02:55] <fantasy> and the link from thatroom in german ?
[02:55] <Linux_Galore> dromer: seems to be a remanant of the previous install
[02:55] <dromer> ok, weird
[02:55] <fantasy> and the link from chatroom in german ?
[02:55] <apokryphos> dromer: weird
[02:55] <dromer> ubotu: de
[02:55] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:55] <apokryphos> dromer: what's on that partition?
[02:55] <dromer> apokryphos: atm nothing, I formatted it 2 days ago from ntfs to ext3
[02:56] <apokryphos> dromer: sudo touch /media/hda3/test works, right?
[02:56] <dromer> yes
[02:56] <geggam> !codecs
[02:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:57] <dromer> apokryphos: yes sude can do it all ;)
[02:57] <apokryphos> dromer: umount /media/hda3 works? (no sudo)
[02:57] <dromer> apokryphos: yes that works too
[02:58] <apokryphos> hm, odd
[02:58] <Linux_Galore> dromer: hda3 seems to have been something to do with captive then was moved to hda5 , hda3 is supossed to be ext3 but how can it be when it seems to have been ntfs
[02:59] <dromer> Linux_Galore: I'm not sure what you mean, "moved to hda5" ?
[02:59] <dromer> Linux_Galore: and yes, it was ntfs and I usid captive with it, but now it's ext3
[02:59] <Linux_Galore> dromer: if you look at the second line from the bottom hda3 used to be catpive (ntfs)  then it changed it to hda5
[03:00] <dromer> it didn't "change" hda5 is still using captive and still is ntfs, it's my windowspartition
[03:01] <Linux_Galore> dromer: so whats on hda3 ?
[03:01] <vadim_> hi, guys!
[03:01] <dromer> Linux_Galore: nothing, I JUST formatted it
[03:01] <dromer> Linux_Galore: atm only the test file apokryphos made me make with touch
[03:02] <Linux_Galore> dromer: aah
[03:02] <botschaft15> gibts den chatraum in german ?
[03:02] <vadim_> where should i put a script if i want it to be executed every time the system is being started and stopped?
[03:02] <dromer> damn, all these germans
[03:03] <dromer> botschaft15: this is an english channel, go ta #kubuntu-de for your native language please
[03:03] <pjcrosier> ubotu: de
[03:03] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:03] <pjcrosier> :)
[03:03] <botschaft15> thank you dromer
[03:03] <botschaft15> i can save this link ?
[03:04] <dromer> not sure what you mean
[03:04] <dromer> apokryphos: hey, I can now mount hda3 with my regular user!
[03:04] <dromer> apokryphos: perhaps fstab is now being read properly?
[03:04] <dromer> apokryphos: hmz, weird, I still get the error :S
[03:06] <Sanne> botschaft15: you might also be interested in http://www.kubuntu-de.org/ and http://www.ubuntuusers.de/
[03:10] <vadim_> who can help me with a script location?
[03:10] <kubuntu_user> Has anyone had trouble upgrading to feisty through adept-manager?
[03:10] <Sanne> vadim_: maybe, what's your problem?
[03:11] <vadim_> where should i put a script if i want it to be executed every time the system is being started and stopped?
[03:11] <Linux_Galore> vadim_: depends what the script does
[03:12] <vadim_> mmm, it's a log in script for my ISP
[03:12] <adaptr> vadim_: /etc/rc.S/99something will do
[03:12] <Linux_Galore> vadim_: user spave or system side
[03:12] <Linux_Galore> space*
[03:13] <vadim_> Linux_Galore: is it a quetion?
[03:13] <botschaft15> thank you sanne
[03:13] <Linux_Galore> vadim_: do you normally run the script as a user or root ?
[03:13] <Sanne> botschaft15: you're welcome :)
[03:14] <botschaft15> sanne i have problem i install the nvidiadriver automatic can you help me ?
[03:14] <botschaft15> thanky you
[03:14] <botschaft15> welcome here in germany
[03:14] <Linux_Galore> vadim_: the reason being you can tell gnome/kde to run set things on login and logout as a user
[03:15] <vadim_> Linux_Galore: now it is executed as a user, but i'd like it to be executed globaly for any user which starts up the machine
[03:15] <botschaft15> Sanne wellcome here in germany ( Berlin )
[03:15] <Sanne> botschaft15: I get you instructions in german for that, one moment.
[03:15] <botschaft15> oky
[03:16] <botschaft15> thank you Sanne
[03:16] <Linux_Galore> vadim_: put it in ~/.kde/Autostart/
[03:17] <vadim_> Linux_Galore: as i understand it will be executed for a specific user, am i right?
[03:18] <Linux_Galore> vadim_: if you want ti system wide you add it to your init setup
[03:18] <vadim_> Linux_Galore: yes, i want it system wide
[03:19] <Linux_Galore> vadim_: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[03:19] <vadim_> Linux_Galore: thx, i will read the article
[03:20] <vadim_> one more quetion, how to execute a script when the system is shutdowned?
[03:20] <Linux_Galore> vadim_: its managed by a tool called update-rc.d
[03:21] <Linux_Galore> vadim_: just type man update-rc.d
[03:21] <Linux_Galore> vadim_: same way
[03:21] <vadim_> Linux_Galore: thx
[03:21] <Sanne> botschaft15: here's the link: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Nvidia-Grafikkarten   You might want to go to #kubuntu-de or #ubuntu-de (type in the chat window: /join #kubuntu-de) for help with that page.
[03:22] <botschaft15> thank you
[03:22] <botschaft15> thank you Sanne
[03:22] <Sanne> botschaft15: you're welcome :)
[03:22] <botschaft15> oky
[03:23] <botschaft15> thank's
[03:23] <botschaft15> its nice here
[03:24] <MarcoPau> ehm, I'm temporarily without mouse... just wanted to ask you how to quit X with the keyboard
[03:25] <geggam> ctrl + alt + backspace
[03:25] <MarcoPau> is there any shell command or keyboard shortcut to access the menu?
[03:25] <MarcoPau> oh yes, what an idiot
[03:25] <MarcoPau> :D
[03:25] <MarcoPau> thanks geggam
[03:25] <dromer> grr, my regular user still can't copy anything to my hda3  while I _was_ able to mount it without sudo ..
[03:25] <Sanne> botschaft15: here's the englisch page for Nvidia from the official ubuntu documentation, uf you're interested: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:26] <Linux_Galore> vadim_: basically you put the script in /etc/init.d  then create a link to /etc/rc3.d/  to start it  and /etc/rcS.d  to run it again at shutdown, thats the manual way
[03:26] <don_jr__> someone having nvidia problems? sorry I've been in another room
[03:27] <dromer> lol
[03:27] <fantasy> Sanne ?
[03:27] <Linux_Galore> vadim_: if you look closely everything in /etc/rc*.d/  is a link to something in /etc/init.d/
[03:27] <fantasy> Sanne ? nvidia is oky
[03:27] <vadim_> Linux_Galore: thanks a lot :)
[03:28] <Linux_Galore> vadim_: basically all the script are chucked into /etc/init.d/  then linked up to the different run state folders as needed
[03:29] <fantasy> Sanne ? I have 3D ?
[03:29] <Linux_Galore> vadim_: ie /etc/rc3.d  etc
[03:29] <Sanne> fantasy: yes, I know :) I was just trying to help somebody who asked how to install the drivers.
[03:29] <don_jr__> what is the prefered p2p file sharing program for kubuntu for mp3's?  is there a limewire for linux? or am I stuck with emule?
[03:29] <fantasy> i have install
[03:29] <Sanne> dromer: what file system does your partition have?
[03:30] <fantasy>  its oky
[03:30] <geggam> don_jr__,  ever try gtk-gnutella ?
[03:31] <don_jr__> I use kde only, no gnome on my box here, is that gtk at the beginning for gnome? lol  and no I havn't ever tried it yet
[03:31] <Linux_Galore> don_jr__: you have the god of p2p programs  mldonkey the front end is called  kmldonkey,  its multi protocol
[03:31] <superkirbyartist> !flash
[03:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:31] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[03:32] <dromer> Sanne: ext3
[03:32] <superkirbyartist> !libflash-mozplugin
[03:32] <olimpico> Is it possible to install kubuntu remotely through the console?
[03:32] <adaptr> no
[03:32] <Sanne> dromer: I had to set permissions on the mount point for ext3 for the user, even if it's already mountable as user.
[03:33] <dromer> Sanne: ok, where/how did you do this?
[03:33] <Linux_Galore> don_jr__: I think there is a limwire thing called frostwire or something for Linux
[03:33] <superkirbyartist> If you put OpenOffice.Org on a live CD and you use it on Pentium MMX 266mhz with 172MB RAM and 172MB Swap then it will run very smoothly.
[03:34] <Sanne> dromer: in konqueror, for example, right click, properties
[03:34] <Sanne> dromer: sec, be right back
[03:34] <malcher> after i reinstalled alsa it won't detect my soundcard which is needs the intel8x0 module
[03:34] <dromer> Sanne: ok, so I should run konqueror as root?
[03:34] <malcher> can somebody give me an option?
[03:35] <don_jr__> Linux_Galore thanks, I'm settin up kmldonkey now
[03:35] <Linux_Galore> superkirbyartist: yeah, I better stop downloading Linux images
[03:35] <adaptr> pervert!
[03:35] <cyt> Hi all, Could anyone tell me what's the difference between the update-manager and aptitude dist-upgrade?
[03:36] <adaptr> cyt: one won't do the other
[03:36] <Linux_Galore> ooh the shame Im stealing Linux
[03:36] <dromer> Sanne: yay, I can write now :]
[03:36] <cyt> adaptr: Do they do the same thing?
[03:36] <amdiak_> hi
[03:36] <dromer> Sanne: I set the write permissions to group now and I can write :)
[03:36] <adaptr> cyt: I just told you they don't
[03:36] <don_jr__> Linux_Galore which of the downloads is the core to run it?  I need something other than kmldonkey?
[03:37] <Linux_Galore> well I just downloaded nexenta on bt and got 450k
[03:37] <superkirbyartist> You don't need LimeWire.
[03:37] <superkirbyartist> I use BitTorrent but for Linux only.
[03:37] <Linux_Galore> don_jr__: mldonkey