[01:03] <bikcmp> I want to make an application run on startup
[01:03] <bikcmp> however, I want it to run as a user.
[01:11] <patdk-lap> bikcmp, add it to contrab
[01:11] <patdk-lap> crontab
[01:11] <bikcmp> patdk-lap: i've already gotten it from a kind man in #ubuntu
[01:12] <bikcmp> patdk-lap: i ended up going the /etc/rc.local route
[01:12] <bikcmp> about to test it.
[03:22] <Xirre> If I wanted to make a Shell Server where people can upload only a specific file type, (.dmb and .rsc) how would I go about doing so? They can also run, 'DreamDaemon "world.dmb" <port>' which will be a command to be ran. It basically runs the .dmb file and it opens the world so others can join. Is there any way I can do this?
[03:30] <qman__> for something that specific, your best option is writing up a web interface to do it
[03:30] <qman__> restricting shell access to something so narrow will be very difficult
[03:59] <Xirre> Agh. I already tried writing up one. I got stuck. I know basic php, html, a bit of shell, and some programming languages.
[04:00] <Xirre> What if I didn't have to restrict the file type? I can worry about that part later.
[04:02] <Xirre> I am back.
[05:38] <drag0nius> what is (squid-1) process? including brackets
[05:39] <drag0nius> i've removed squid3 package but this one was still running and responding on 3128
[07:59] <jamespage> Daviey, I'll pickup that iscsitarget SRU if you like; I'll do it after beta-1 as we really need to merge with Debian in quantal first
[08:01] <Daviey> jamespage: rocking!
[08:01] <jamespage> Daviey, actually thats not seeded anymore - I'll do it today
[09:10] <spidernik84> Hi everyone. Is the vm-builder project dead on 12.04?
[09:25] <eagles0513875_> hey guys is there a place where i can get the list of repositories for ubuntu server 12.04
[09:26] <ikonia> what do you mean a list of repositories ?
[09:26] <eagles0513875_> a list of default repositories
[09:26] <ikonia> what do you mean default repositories ?
[09:26] <eagles0513875_> my server is using the DC's local mirrors im trying out an experiment
[09:26] <eagles0513875_> in terms of creating my own repo
[09:26] <ikonia> so you want the mirror list
[09:26] <ikonia> not repositories
[09:27] <eagles0513875_> when i say repositories i mean like main universe etc
[09:28] <ikonia> you have those in your install
[09:28] <ikonia> sorry, I'm not understanding what you actually want
[09:28] <eagles0513875_> sorry for the confusion i just figured it out :(
[09:30] <ikonia> did you mean something like this http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com/archive/dists/precise/
[09:30] <ikonia> ?
[09:35] <spidernik84> or this? http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[09:36] <spidernik84> is there anyone doing automated virtual machines creation?
[09:37] <eagles0513875_> ikonia: ya thats it
[09:38] <thierry> Hi everyone, i'm working on an ubuntu-server image on my Pandaboard - :) - and i'm trying to connect a GPS / RFID  / GPRS to my system; the problem is that in a normal ubuntu environment theses devices are attached on /dev/ttyUSB* ( for GPS and GPRS) and /dev/ttyACM* ( for RFID) but on my system they are plugged on /dev/usbdev*.**
[09:38] <thierry> normally it's a usbserial driver issues
[09:38] <thierry> anyone has an idea?
[09:40] <thierry> i found some tutos that show how to enable usbserial for devices using their idProduct / Vendor : but i need this to be natively done by the system , regardless the GPS i'm connecting
[09:41] <melmoth> thierry, sounds like something udev can help you with
[09:41] <melmoth> (if it s just a matter of giving the device the name you want)
[09:42] <thierry> melmoth:  it's not just the name
[09:43] <thierry> with cutecom when the device is plugged on /dev/ttyISB i can open it , but not if it is plugged on /dev/usbdevx.y
[09:43] <ogra_> sounds more like something for #ubuntu-kernel
[09:44] <Kingsy> can someone in here talk to me for a moment about how to make sense of the results sar produces?
[09:53] <thierry> :) ok 'ill try there
[10:03] <melmoth> Kingsy, apt-get install ksar :-)
[10:04] <Kingsy> melmoth: I have it installed, and I am looking at the results of the past 24 hours now. The thing I am asking is how to make sense of the results
[10:05] <melmoth> not sure i understand the problem
[10:05] <Kingsy> melmoth: for example, in "processes" there is a graph plotted with time / proc/s   <-- what exactly is proc/s ? it cant be processes I have a peak here at 87.5 proc/s
[10:05] <Kingsy> that cant mean 87 and a half processes
[10:05] <melmoth> sa record some metrics along time, then you can see what those metrics were (i/o , rm used, number of process) later on.
[10:06] <melmoth> ksar just show it with picture so it s easier to feel how things chnaged according to time
[10:06] <melmoth> number of process created by second i think
[10:07] <Kingsy> so at a point in the day it created 87.5 processes per second? isnt that impossible? the server should have crashed.. and according to the load average it didnt go above like 2
[10:07] <melmoth> http://linux.die.net/man/1/sar
[10:07] <Kingsy> melmoth: I guess what I am trying to say is, the results just don't make any sense
[10:08] <melmoth> you can create 87 new process per second.. sound slike a fork bomb.
[10:08] <Kingsy> what is a fork bomb?
[10:09] <melmoth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb
[10:09] <Kingsy> melmoth: and your right yeah, ot does mean processes created per second, so for arguments sake, I wanted to try and find out WHY it did that..
[10:09] <melmoth> either a malicious fork bomb, or, more likely, some daemon init script that failed to run the daemon, and try again, and again, and again
[10:10] <Kingsy> melmoth: so, say you were looking at sar, and you spotted that spike, what would you check next in order to find out more about why that happened?
[10:10] <melmoth> what does /var/log/syslog says for the date and time this happened ?
[10:11] <Kingsy> melmoth: that file doesnt exist on our server
[10:12] <jamespage> Daviey, really enjoying the iscsitarget rabbit hole - dkms module does not build with 3.5 kernel....
[10:12] <melmoth> you have probably change the syslog configuration so it logs things elsewhere..
[10:12] <jamespage> smb, are you around to pester for help with iscsitarget/linux 3.5 build issues?
[10:12] <Kingsy> yeah I guess the hosting company did it.. man
[10:13] <smb> jamespage, I would be again in a bit. You guys seem to sense whenever I am about to leave for lunch
[10:14] <smb> jamespage, ;)
[10:14] <jamespage> smb, lol - give me a ping when you are done then - thanks!
[10:14] <smb> jamespage, Sure, will do :)
[10:21] <Daviey> jamespage: I am jealous!  If you want to swap with something cooler, it's all yours.
[10:50] <spidernik84> Hi all. Is there any alternative to ubuntu-vm-builder?
[10:53] <xnox> spidernik84: python-vm-builder, debootstrap, ubuntu core, cloud images, lxc containers....
[10:54] <jamespage> spidernik84, the cloud image builds switched a while back - lemme see if I can tell you what they use now - I think its livebuilder
[11:00] <spidernik84> thanks guys :)
[11:30] <Sachin__> Is there any alternative for ACL?
[11:32] <Sachin__> Is there any alternative for Access Control Lists ?
[11:43] <Daviey> jamespage: does ceph need xml2?
[11:45] <jamespage> Daviey, rest-bench uses it - but that should remain in universe
[11:45] <Daviey> jamespage: can you make sure it's handled? ta
[11:45] <Daviey> (showing in c-m)
[11:46] <jamespage> Daviey, how do I make that happen?  radosgw was as well but someone promoted it to main - I was expecting it to remain in universe
[11:47] <Daviey> jamespage: Why was it promoted ?
[11:49] <jamespage> Daviey, no idea
[11:49] <jamespage> Daviey, can I tell who promoted it?
[11:49] <Daviey> jamespage: no easily.
[11:49] <Daviey> not*
[11:50] <jamespage> Daviey, MIR has been requested but I think there are to many blockers for quantal IMHO - bug 1017978
[11:53] <Daviey> jamespage: ask in -release, see if anyone knows.
[11:53] <smb> jamespage, So whats up with scsitarget? :)
[11:55] <jamespage> smb, the dkms module is not so happy with the 3.5 kernel
[11:55] <jamespage> smb, I've picked a patch from upstream but I had to rework some stuff myself - would you be OK to review?
[11:57] <smb> jamespage, Yeah that has happened a few times. Yes, I could do. Where would I find your things?
[11:58] <smb> jamespage, Which place did you pick things from? Just out of interest. The debian package or the svn repo?
[11:58] <jamespage> smb, both - I merge in the latest packaging from debian, picked a few patches from upstream to resolve this and other bugs and added one myself!
[11:58] <jamespage> I've tested it locally and it appears to work - but specifically this patch needs a review:
[11:59] <jamespage> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1185604/
[11:59] <jamespage> ioc_task_link changed in 3.5 to be a void function - so I had to rework its use
[11:59] <jamespage> I think I have it right...
[12:06] <smb> jamespage, Hm, not sure. Now you would only conditionally call ioc_taslk_link while before it was always done... Give me a min to think about that
[12:07] <jamespage> smb, if you look at that function 3.4 and 3.5 you will see the change in behaviour
[12:07] <smb> jamespage, right, I was about to do that
[12:07] <jamespage> it won't work without a valid ioc context - whereas before the function would just return NULL
[12:20] <smb> jamespage, Yes, it seems the null check moved away. It seems it used to have another fail point when the refcount was 0. So mostly I guess your version is ok (maybe one could make it more readable by having an else case and do the assignment in the true case). And we hope that current->io_context is only set with a ref-count and always NULL otherwise...
[12:21] <jamespage> smb, I guess the "another fail point when the refcount was 0" was the bit that worried me a little
[12:24] <koolhead16> my internet phewwwwwwwwww
[12:24] <smb> jamespage, It seems that may be a guarantee... At least from the commit that removed the check: "ioc_task_link() is used to share %current's ioc on clone.  If
[12:24] <smb>     %current->io_context is set, %current is guaranteed to have refcount
[12:24] <smb>     on the ioc and, thus, ioc_task_link() can't fail."
[12:25] <jamespage> smb, \o/
[12:25] <jamespage> all good then...
[12:28] <smb> jamespage, Yeah I think that there is hope. Well at least from their point of view. They talk of current in the fork context and iscsitarget code uses something else.
[12:32] <smb> jamespage, But I guess whenever a task has a pointer to an ioc set there should be a reference (or there is something badly wrong with the usage of refcounting or the pointer)
[12:32] <jamespage> smb, I think so
[12:52] <dassouki> is there a way from terminal, I can list the 10 largest folders on my system, or folders that have more than 5gb in them includnig sub folders?
[13:01] <zul> dassouki: yeah look at the man page for find
[13:18] <dhanasekaran> HI, Guys i want go live session with ubuntu-server cd
[13:18] <dhanasekaran> please guide me guys
[13:21] <RoyK> dhanasekaran: there's no ubuntu server live cd
[13:21] <RoyK> there's the desktop cd, and the server cd, the desktop can go live, the server cd can operate in two modes, install or recovery
[13:26] <TheLordOfTime> dhanasekaran:  if you want a "live" server environment, install "desktop" onto a USB thumbdrive, add server packages
[13:26] <TheLordOfTime> (I have a system here that is the GUI Desktop but has additional server packages, to act as a dev system
[13:26] <TheLordOfTime> )
[13:27] <dhanasekaran> TheLordOfTime, i want find mac address for my server, But My server have ubuntu-server cd How to find out mac address
[13:27] <dhanasekaran> TheLordOfTime, it's new machine no os
[13:27] <dhanasekaran> only have ubuntu-server cd
[13:28] <patdk-lap> ifconfig
[13:28] <dhanasekaran> i want deploy os remotely using cobbler tool using mac address
[13:28] <dhanasekaran> please guide me.
[13:28] <patdk-lap> boot the system, the pxe bios on the nic will tell you
[13:29] <patdk-lap> or, tcpdump, and watch for dhcp requests from it when you turn it on
[13:29] <TheLordOfTime> dhanasekaran:  you install ubuntu server and then find  the MAC address for the NIC
[13:30] <TheLordOfTime> dhanasekaran:  or, you take apart the server and look at the NIC
[13:30] <TheLordOfTime> it may be written right on it what its MAC is
[13:30] <TheLordOfTime> (otherwise, you boot to a Desktop live session, run ifconfig -a in the terminal, and find the MAC)
[13:30] <dhanasekaran> TheLordOfTime, server it's located remote place
[13:32] <dhanasekaran> it's any way find mac address using ubuntu-server cd
[13:33] <dhanasekaran> i can login into busybox shell but not getting mac address information
[13:33] <TheLordOfTime> dhanasekaran:  no because the ubuntu server CD is not a live cd
[13:33] <TheLordOfTime> if its a remote server, it should get an OS before you can truly get any real information
[13:36] <dhanasekaran> it's a newly bot machine, there is no remote support hand,only machine power on state, inside ubuntu-server DVD
[13:38] <cerberos> If http://pastie.org/4662177 is the output of cat /proc/cpuinfo should I be installing _i386.deb or _amd64.deb packages?
[13:38] <_ruben> dhanasekaran: do you have remote kvm access?
[13:38] <dhanasekaran> _ruben, yes
[13:38] <dhanasekaran> _ruben, How to d it? any help
[13:39] <Gargoyle> Hello.
[13:39] <_ruben> then just follow patdk-lap's remark .. just hit the key to have it boot from pxe, and it'll show you the mac address it's using for that, unless it has a really broken pxe rom
[13:39] <Gargoyle> Is there a quick way to get the installed list of packages from one server, into a format that can be used to install all the same packages on another server?
[13:40] <_ruben> Gargoyle: there is, but i don't recall it from top of my head. should easy to find using google
[13:40] <yeats> !clone
[13:40] <_ruben> right, that one :)
[13:41] <Gargoyle> ahh. I was looking into dpkg options! :)
[14:03] <tmartiro>  I have problem changing network cards' affinity . After changing the smp_affinity , the changes are not applied. There is also bonding interface configured on host. Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. kernel  3.2.0-29-generic
[14:28] <dhanasekaran> _ruben, thanks man. it's showing mac address
[14:28] <dhanasekaran> !automate
[14:29] <dhanasekaran> !cloning
[14:54] <xnox> interesting
[14:55] <xnox> there is a similar bug of 12.10 guest cirrus driver not playing along with qemu-kvm on 12.10 host.
[14:55] <xnox> and that was thought to be kernel bug in 12.10, because 12.04 guest works fine on qemu-kvm 12.10 host.
[15:00] <jamespage> hallyn, around? I'm seeing a weird issue with my iscsi testing setup with libvirt/kvm
[15:01] <hallyn> jamespage: i know 0 about iscsi, but shoot
[15:01] <jamespage> my test VM's instantly go to paused state when I try to start them
[15:01] <hallyn> jamespage: nohting in logs?  how about setting debug level to 1 in /etc/libvirt/libvirtd.conf?
[15:01] <jamespage> hallyn, well not quite instantly - I get a little output
[15:03] <soren> hallyn: Did you see my question here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/997978/comments/86
[15:04]  * soren notes the time and runs off
[15:05] <hallyn> soren: looking
[15:07] <jamespage> hallyn, OK - here is a bit more - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1185918/
[15:08] <jamespage> hallyn, looks like this bug 1045027
[15:08] <jamespage> hallyn, love it when I managed to answer my own question
[15:09] <jamespage> anyway that blocks me from testing iscsi root for beta-1
[15:10] <hallyn> soren: great, thanks (commentin gin bug)
[15:11] <hallyn> jamespage: ah, ok :)  i waspuzzling over Dave's bug submission a few mins ago :)
[15:13] <jamespage> hallyn, I can reproduce that at will if that helps
[15:13] <jamespage> I reverted my kernel and I'm good for testing
[15:15] <hallyn> jamespage: marked it critical prio.  might comment there that you're ready to test.  i'll leave it to kernel team unless they say otherwise
[15:41] <tash> strange, am in group www-data and /var/www is www-data:www-data with 777 and I can't overwrite files via FTP
[15:41] <tash> perms denied
[15:41] <tash> any ideas?
[15:42] <Gargoyle> tash: Don't use ftp!
[15:43] <tash> well, it's winscp, port 22
[15:43] <tash> so, sftp
[15:43] <tash> still, odd that I can't overwrite files isn't it?
[15:43] <Gargoyle> tash: if it really is 777, then it wouldn't matter what group you were in.
[15:43] <Gargoyle> Anything in the logs?
[15:44] <Gargoyle> What error msg do you get?
[15:44] <tash> agreed on the 777, checking logs
[15:44] <tash> this was just dumped on me
[15:44] <tash> still investigating
[15:45] <tash> nothing in /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog, not sure which log to look at
[15:45] <shauno> are the files you're trying to overwrite also owned by www-data ?
[15:46] <Gargoyle> If it's a windows to linux transfer, could be worth checking that if its a case sensitivity issue (eg, the file is uploaded as Index.HTM, but the webserver is serving index.htm)
[15:46] <tash> shauno: yes
[15:47] <tash> Gargoyle: it is Windows -> Ubuntu Server, but never had issues before and use WinSCP all the time.
[15:47] <tash> could it be trying to modify perms after the upload and maybe that is causing the issue?
[15:48] <Gargoyle> could be. You actually need to be the Owner of the file to change it's permissions.
[15:48] <Gargoyle> so if they are owned by www-data, you'll need to make them owned by you:www-data I think.
[15:51] <tash> yep, that was it
[15:51] <Gargoyle> annoying as hell! :)
[15:52] <jamespage> lynxman, OK - I give up - how do I get ipxe to tell me exactly why it won't boot off my iscsi target
[15:52] <jamespage> ubuntu installed to it just fine....
[15:54] <lynxman> jamespage: hm... :)
[15:54] <tash> so, even though perms are 777 on something you can't change perms unless you own the file? That is the lesson learned here right?
[15:54] <lynxman> jamespage: afaik it should relate to the network card you have on the server
[15:55] <lynxman> jamespage: there's quite a bunch of small bugs about this, we found one with TREllis 6 months ago
[15:55] <jamespage> lynxman, I get an Input/Output error message only
[15:56] <jamespage> it worked at alpha-3 frustratingly
[15:56] <lynxman> jamespage: anywhere I can see a screenshot of those?
[15:56] <jamespage> lynxman, not right this moment but it pointed me to http://ipxe.org/err/1d704439
[15:58] <lynxman> jamespage: I'd say the driver got a reply it didn't expect
[15:58] <lynxman> jamespage: although ipxe is mostly black magic, I'd contact the mailing list and hope for the best :)
[16:01] <jamespage> lynxman, someone beat me to it...
[16:01] <jamespage> http://ipxe.org/err/1d704439
[16:01] <jamespage> http://lists.ipxe.org/pipermail/ipxe-devel/2012-September/001796.html
[16:01] <jamespage> even
[16:01] <jamespage> :-)
[16:02] <lynxman> jamespage: so that's a high chance, I don't think our last ipxe update is from before May 16th
[16:02] <jamespage> lynxman, feb
[16:03] <lynxman> jamespage: yeah, so that'd make sense, although *crossing fingers* the package should be easy to update, and if not I'll be willing *steps forward* to update it
[16:04]  * jamespage tries it
[16:37] <roaksoax> Daviey: are we too late to upload maas to quantal?
[16:43] <Daviey> roaksoax: no, i'd rather it was in there.
[16:43] <Daviey> roaksoax: can i see the diff?
[16:43] <roaksoax> Daviey: ok, I'll upload later today
[16:44] <roaksoax> Daviey: ok, it will be a veeeeeeeeeeeeery long one :)
[16:46] <roaksoax> Daviey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1186109/
[16:56] <Daviey> roaksoax: best hold off, actually.
[16:57] <roaksoax> Daviey: ok
[16:57] <roaksoax> Daviey: it will keep growing though
[16:57] <roaksoax> Daviey: right now it has been tested and has everything working but internal DNS/DHCP
[17:11] <Daviey> roaksoax: can you comment on what the diff does?
[17:11] <Daviey> how does it improve the beta?
[17:11] <Daviey> ?
[17:20] <roaksoax> Daviey: will do
[17:20] <roaksoax> Daviey: i didn't upload anything on friday nor yesterday
[17:20] <roaksoax> as some issue needed to be fixed
[17:20] <roaksoax> ii'm just updating to latest branch and testing eeeeeverything again
[18:00] <nandersson> Hi, I am setting up Ubuntu Core in a disk image. Got it to work, but now I would like to have my keyboard working. I installed the package keyboard-configuration, choose my keyboard and thought that would do it, but no. Still english keyboard. I have the right parameters in /etc/default/keyboard. Do I need to set some vars in .bashrc /etc/.profile or someplace?
[18:26] <nandersson> Ok, I solved part of the problem by installing console-setup and configure it for UTF-8 and Latin1. Still don't get åäö though :-(
[18:36] <SuperLag> How can you find out what the dependencies are for $PACKAGE? is there an apt option that will do that?
[18:40] <Nephelo> Hello, I've got a problem with my Ubuntu 10.04 Serversystem. I'm using mdadm (raid 5) and smbd for network shares. After a time the server freezes, only a reset helps. RAM is ok, and FS seems to. I tried to create an archive and this works. Nothing in syslog. Can someone help me?
[18:48] <RoyK> Nephelo: cat /proc/mdstat
[18:48] <RoyK> Nephelo: and use smartctl -H on all devs in that raid
[18:49] <RoyK> Nephelo: and perahsp smartctl -t short for them
[18:49] <Nephelo> RoyK The raid seems ok. But after a reset the raid starts with resync
[18:49] <Nephelo> Ok, I'll try smartctl
[18:49] <RoyK> Nephelo: if a drive hangs, it may hang the whole system
[18:50] <Nephelo> RoyK: But I tried to create a big archiv and this works
[18:50] <Nephelo> (using the comand line)
[18:56] <Daviey> roaksoax: Hey, how are you doing with using the squashfs with MAAS?
[18:56] <roaksoax> Daviey: well haven't really looked at it again yet as I was resolving issues with MAAS itself
[18:57] <roaksoax>  Daviey going to start looking at it again once I finish this package testing
[18:58] <Nephelo> RoyK: smartctl -H says for all devices that they passed the test
[18:58] <adam_g> zul: do you know whats up with the python-quantumclient MIR? hasn't moved in a while but looks like the concerns have been addressed?
[18:59] <zul> adam_g: no idea....lemme have a look
[18:59] <Daviey> roaksoax: ok
[19:01] <adam_g> zul: nosexcover is gone and the test suite is enabled. its now a dependency of nova and is blocking nova uploads to Q, which is why i ask.
[19:01] <zul> yeah lemme bug mterry
[19:02] <hallyn> pmatulis: hi, are there freeze dates relating to the server guide for quantal?
[19:02] <roaksoax> Daviey: do yo want me to attach a diff?
[19:02] <roaksoax> Daviey: to the FFe bug report?
[19:02] <roaksoax> Daviey: cause I think I'm ready to upload
[19:03] <pmatulis> hallyn: hi, i'm lagging behind this cycle for the guide.  i need to look into it
[19:05] <Daviey> roaksoax: jfdi please
[19:06] <Daviey> roaksoax: but please be around if it regresses to resolve
[19:06] <roaksoax> Daviey: k cool :)
[19:08] <hallyn> pmatulis: ok - there are several things in the lxc guide i need to update, but i'm hoping i can put that off a bit further as i chase some elusive bugs elsewhere :)
[19:10] <roaksoax> Daviey: ok cool. The only "regression" is that dhcp seems to not be writing the config just yet, which leaves it unsuable for now, but that should be addressed very soon
[19:10] <roaksoax> Daviey: due to the running our own maas dhcp upstart job
[19:12] <Daviey> roaksoax: Remember that maas doesn't always run it's own dhcp
[19:12] <Daviey> Many scenarios it will not.
[19:12] <roaksoax> Daviey: yeah I'm much rather concerned on having maas fully supported now with correctly running external dns/dhcp rather than increasing the diff later in the release
[19:14] <skrite> hey all
[19:20] <roaksoax> Daviey: uploaded \o/
[19:29] <Troy^> System restart required how often do those types of updates happen in server?
[19:31] <roaksoax> Daviey: let me know when you approve maas please
[19:40] <Daviey> roaksoax: done
[19:42] <roaksoax> Daviey: thanks
[19:54] <protoCall7> Hi all, I am attempting to install a Xen domU of Ubuntu Server 12.04 following the directions on the xen wiki @ http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Ubuntu_10.04_domU, but I can not seem to get a boot loader to install.  Does anyone have any troubleshooting tips for tracking the problem down?
[20:12] <protoCall7> here are the relevant syslog entries regarding the grub failure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1186449/
[20:16] <smoser> hallyn, https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/ubuntu/quantal/lxc/lp-1045955/+merge/122749
[20:30] <hallyn> smoser: all the whitespace changes mask the meat of it
[20:31] <hallyn> you're adding check for auth_key (not mentioned in changelog).  but i have no objection to what it claims to change.  I assume utlemming is happy with it too?
[20:31] <hallyn> smoser: I'm adding some compile fixes right now too.  I'll copy in your .patch file if that's ok
[20:31] <hallyn> (subject to beta freeze of course)
[20:33] <arrrghhh> hello.  i'd like to run logrotate more frequently than 'daily' - at least on one specific set of logs.
[20:33] <arrrghhh> can i just put */10 * * * * logrotate in my root's crontab, or is there more to it?
[20:34] <smoser> hallyn, the comment about auth_key is correctly in commit messages
[20:34] <smoser> and i really suggest taking the wuite space changes too
[20:34] <smoser> as that file is a mess.
[20:35] <hallyn> smoser: pushed to ubuntu:lxc
[20:35] <hallyn> smoser: yeah, that file is a mess, cause ppl insist on fighting 'et sw=8 ts=8' common-sense setting :)
[20:35] <smoser> by just copying rather than merging you lose my per-commit commit messages.
[20:35] <hallyn> (j/k on whitespace)
[20:36] <smoser> hallyn, if i made invalid or inconsistent white space changes then you should reject it.
[20:36] <smoser> but you really should set some '# vi:'
[20:36] <hallyn> does all vi actually honor that?
[20:36] <smoser> as that makes the one true editor "just work"
[20:37] <hallyn> ISTM it generally ignores it
[20:37] <smoser> set modeline modelines=3
[20:37] <smoser> that searches top 3 and bottom the lines
[20:38] <hallyn> so it only works when people want it to - in which case they can correctly set it by hand anyway
[20:38] <hallyn> maybe those should be default in system-wide vimrc
[20:38] <hallyn> but anyway
[20:39] <hallyn> bzr merging with multiple quilt patches is not to be trusted.  sorry.  your commit msgs were lost.
[20:39] <roaksoax> Daviey: ok so I tried to do the squashfs thing and a few thoughts:
[20:39] <roaksoax> 1. Installer is being killed due to an apparent lack of memory
[20:39] <hallyn> I always keep upstream-directed msgs in DEP-5 tags, and distro-directed in changelog
[20:40] <roaksoax> 2. squid-deb-proxy doesn't allow to download the image, so I had to tweak squid0deb-proxy. For our case, I think it might be important to publish it in archive.u.c and download it and find a workaround
[20:40] <smoser> hallyn, but if you're a developer, you want it to. and so you should set that.
[20:40] <hallyn> in fact i think i'll copy yours into header
[20:40] <smoser> and then go on with life.
[20:41] <smoser> the reason its not default is
[20:41] <smoser> http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1876
[20:41] <smoser> there are been issues at points in the past.
[20:41] <smoser> i think it might be saner now.
[20:42] <hallyn> smoser: are you forwarding that patch to lxc-devel or should i?
[20:42] <smoser> http://lwn.net/Articles/20249/
[20:42] <smoser> umm... you should :)
[20:42] <hallyn> ok
[20:42] <smoser> oh. and sorry i didn't do good patch headers there.
[20:43] <smoser> it would hvae been ok for you to NAk and say that.
[20:51] <smoser> hallyn,
[20:51] <smoser> have you seen this
[20:51] <smoser> with brfs
[20:51] <smoser> $ sudo lxc-destroy --name precise-amd64
[20:51] <smoser> rm: skipping `/var/lib/lxc/precise-amd64/rootfs', since it's on a different device
[20:51] <smoser> result is tha ti can't kill that root
[20:51] <smoser> i have to run now. will check in later.
[20:51] <smoser> i thought i had set up for btrfs
[20:52] <hallyn> smoser: hm.
[20:52] <hallyn> smoser: someone changed the rm -rf to                 rm -rf --one-file-system --preserve-root $rootdev
[20:53] <hallyn> git suggests it was me
[20:53] <hallyn> bastard
[20:54] <hallyn> we want that safety though, so i think the right answer is to first separately rm -rf --one-filesystem the $rootfs, then the $containerdir
[20:54] <hallyn> i'll push a fix
[20:55] <esuave> what is the difference between the /etc/rc.d/init.d/ directory and the /etc/init.d/?
[20:56] <arrrghhh> esuave, well as i understand it the rc.d stuff is by runlevel
[20:56] <arrrghhh> init.d is all the scripts for startup, regardless of runlevel
[20:56] <esuave> ahh got ya! thanks!!
[20:57] <hallyn> smoser: oh.  no.  that's already fixed in quantal.  but not in precise
[20:57] <hallyn> if you feel that should be SRU'd, please do open a bug
[20:57] <arrrghhh> esuave, that wasn't a great explanation.  this one is much better :)
[20:57] <arrrghhh> http://askubuntu.com/questions/5039/what-is-the-difference-between-etc-init-and-etc-init-d
[20:59] <arrrghhh> as my explanation really applies more to the rcX.d stuff
[20:59] <esuave> ah yes this helps
[20:59] <esuave> thank you
[20:59] <arrrghhh> np
[21:15] <Tellmarch> Hi... is there a way to allow a user to take ownership of folders/files owned by www-data?
[21:15] <arrrghhh> Tellmarch, if you can change the ownership, chown
[21:15] <arrrghhh> if you have to change the permissions without ownership, chmod
[21:16] <Tellmarch> my problem is that there is a user, let's say user1, with a website in his home folder
[21:16] <Tellmarch> however, php scripts create files there, owned by www-data
[21:16] <Tellmarch> user1 is not an administrative account, so normally he can't do the chown (no rights to do so)
[21:16] <arrrghhh> Tellmarch, chmod the files then
[21:17] <Tellmarch> but i'd like to allow him to, without giving him full root access to the server
[21:17] <arrrghhh> so more users/groups can access them
[21:17] <arrrghhh> just chmod the files he needs to access
[21:17] <Tellmarch> files might be created by php in the future, i want him to be able to do it
[21:17] <Tellmarch> or can i change the default permissions for files created by apache?
[21:17] <arrrghhh> cron job?
[21:17] <arrrghhh> hrm, you might be able to
[21:18] <arrrghhh> above my pay grade... i guess it really depends on how the files are created and for what purpose.... but again, i am pretty green with apache.
[21:19] <Tellmarch> basically he has a (heavy) php web application, which can install new modules directly from the web administration page etc.
[21:19] <Tellmarch> which means new files created, owned by www-data instead of user1...
[21:20] <arrrghhh> ah
[21:20] <arrrghhh> yea, i'd say you'll have to ensure the web app is creating the files with the appropriate permissions
[21:20] <arrrghhh> or create a cron job that chmod's the files - not exactly pretty.
[21:21] <Tellmarch> yeah that would be easy enough to do... but if for some security reason he wants some strange permissions on few files, might be dangerous
[21:22] <Tellmarch> though doing chown -R on the root of the website should be fine I guess
[21:22] <Tellmarch> ok, thanks for the hints
[21:22] <arrrghhh> np
[21:22] <arrrghhh> yea, if you limit the chmod to his website directory, it shouldn't be too dangerous
[21:23] <arrrghhh> just dangerous for his site potentially ;)
[21:27] <Tellmarch> one other idea I had was to allow user1 to run chown as www-data, in the sudoers file... But i don't know much about sudoers, so i'm not even sure if it's possible
[21:27] <Tellmarch> I think if I can do that it would be safe, nothing else should be owned by www-data in the server...
[21:28] <arrrghhh> Tellmarch, why not just add his user to the www-data group?
[21:28] <Tellmarch> because the default permissions are 755 :(
[21:28] <Tellmarch> it was my first idea too ^^
[21:28] <arrrghhh> ah
[21:28] <arrrghhh> heh
[21:28] <arrrghhh> sounds so simple :P
[21:59] <kyle__> Where do you set the system-wide defaults ala gsettings (previously gconf) in 12.04?
[21:59] <arrrghhh> kyle__, doesn't really apply to the -server platform - does it?
[22:00] <kyle__> arrrghhh: No, but mostly it only applies to people running multiple workstations at work, and they tend to hang out more in server.
[22:00] <arrrghhh> kyle__, ok...
[22:00] <arrrghhh> just checking.  my server has no gnome ;)
[22:01] <kyle__> arrrghhh: Technically, _technically_ I'm dealing with server, as I installed the minimal, then apt-get installed unity-desktop ;)
[22:01] <arrrghhh> i'm sorry.
[22:02] <kyle__> arrrghhh: No better way of handling cloud-desktops run off of 'buntu.  Using vncserver is _much_ more efficient than running vino or whatever with X running on a virtual video card provided by KVM.
[22:02] <arrrghhh> i just ssh, but i'm only managing a couple of servers.
[22:02] <kyle__> arrrghhh: I've got one for nearly every student in the department.
[22:02] <arrrghhh> heh
[22:03] <arrrghhh> my ubuntu usage is a bit more limited than that...
[22:04] <kyle__> arrrghhh: Most of them will use the VM once, and forget about it.  But it will be required for some of the classes.  And I'm hoping those students go away feeling like this is a great system.  Hoping.
[22:04] <kyle__> s/will be/is/
[22:04] <Gargoyle> How much overhead is involved if I install gdb on a server? I've tried cloning the exact same config onto another machine, but I can't get apache to segfault on the test machine.
[22:04] <arrrghhh> hah
[22:05] <Gargoyle> Or can anyone suggest any other method for tracking down a segfault without installing all the gdb stuff on a live server?
[22:07] <Tellmarch> well just installing gbd doesn't change much i think, but you'd have to run apache in gdb i guess?
[22:08] <Tellmarch> ... haven't used gdb since my C programming days, about 10 years ago...
[22:09] <Gargoyle> Tellmarch: I've never used it. But from googling up some docs, I was wondering if I needed to install dev libraries that contain all the debug symbols?
[22:09] <Tellmarch> well I don't think debugging apache on your live server is really what you want to do
[22:10] <Tellmarch> yes, you'd need apache with the debugging symbols too...
[22:10] <Tellmarch> apache logs don't tell you anything of value?
[22:10] <Gargoyle> [notice] child pid 12698 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)
[22:11] <Gargoyle> That's all!
[22:11] <Gargoyle> Sometimes apache carries on, othertimes it locks up and the load balancer deletes it from the pool!
[22:11] <Tellmarch> not very informative :(
[22:12] <Gargoyle> Can I get apache to be a bit more informative? or dump a core or something that might be of use?
[22:13] <Tellmarch> I'm not sure...
[22:13] <Tellmarch> but running apache in gdb means compiling it with the debugging symbols
[22:13] <Tellmarch> quite a bit of work
[22:14] <Tellmarch> CoreDumpDirectory /tmp/apache
[22:14] <Tellmarch> there seems to be an option to get the core dump
[22:15] <Gargoyle> Yeah, at which point the apache you are debugging is no longer the same as the running one!
[22:16] <Gargoyle> I'll see if I can get get something from a core dump. Or perhaps I can get the PID output into access.log too, so at least I can try and track down which part of the web app is crashing it?
[22:16] <Tellmarch> is it a php web app?
[22:17] <Gargoyle> yup
[22:17] <Tellmarch> some people recommend xdebug...
[22:18] <Gargoyle> Ah. Maybe I can get something from that.
[22:19] <Tellmarch> though it's better to use it on a dev environment, not production...
[22:20] <Tellmarch> and if you can't reproduce, that won't help '^^
[22:20] <soren> adam_g: Do you have any idea why all of glance's dependencies on its own binaries are so strictly versioned?
[22:20] <soren> adam_g: It has well and thoroughly painted itself into a corner on my laptop due to this.
[22:32] <arrrghhh> so anyone manage disk space using a web interface?
[22:32] <arrrghhh> i was looking at dfweb, but i can't seem to get it working.
[22:38] <adam_g> soren: looking thru history for the what/when/why now, but i can certainly see issues with attempting to use, say, the wrong python-glance with the server(s)
[22:40] <adam_g> looks like its been that way since the beginning?  what are you running into exactly?
[22:41] <adam_g> soren: ^
[23:51] <zul> adam_g: did you get quantumclient seeded?


 @tomreyn, Phew. I am not a fan of the black screen : o
[00:00] <tomreyn> it also said "insyde" on the top of the bios configuration screen where you pressed f9 + f10
[00:01] <tomreyn> that's unless lenovo customized it to say something else.
 @tomreyn, missed that,wasn't reading it all.    https://termbin.com/k8d2
 @tomreyn, can do it another day if you have to leave now
[00:02] <tomreyn> i'll have a quick look
[00:03] <tomreyn> was: DMI: LENOVO 81F4/LNVNB161216, BIOS 7SCN26WW 10/26/2018
[00:04] <tomreyn> now: DMI: LENOVO 81F4/LNVNB161216, BIOS 7SCN34WW 06/10/2019
 @tomreyn, awesome 😄😄😄
[00:06] <tomreyn> Shreddies: i'm afraid the issues remain though :-/
[00:06] <tomreyn> not fixed in this bios version
[00:06] <tomreyn> we can meet the other day and see if we can work around those
[00:07] <tomreyn> basically doing this https://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
 @tomreyn, ok,well thanks anyway,learnt a little today
[00:08] <tomreyn> you can also join https://webchat.freenode.net/ubuntu and ask for help with it there (present your logs at https://termbin.com/k8d2 again)
 @tomreyn, 👍
[00:09] <tomreyn> you have ACPI Errors and PCIe Bus Errors
[00:09] <tomreyn> the latter directly affect the nvidia graphics card performance
[00:10] <tomreyn> and will be the cause of your stalls
[00:10] <tomreyn> good luck!
 Hi guys, I am an Ubuntu person making a remix but I want to join the community so
 Hello!
 @ItzSwirlz, Hi Joshua =) Are you looking for a formal or informal Telegram chat?
 Both i guess
 I wouldnt mind an offtopic one
 @ItzSwirlz, There's Kubuntu Café for informal stuff
 Cool can you give me a link to that please?
 https://telegram.me/joinchat/Bpq8FwCyZ1kDx_bXTJGwqw They have a Kubuntu podcast apparently,saw it when searching online for the link
 Thank you
 @ItzSwirlz, you're welcome!
 @RikMills ^^ spam
[09:24] <jubo2> What's the best way to move partitions from disk to another disk and make the new disk bootable? I got a bunch of USB3-to-SATA3 connectors, so asking just for which programs to use
[09:24] <jubo2> Coz I want to maintain a copy of the corrupt system, not nuke it to get clean
[09:26] <jubo2> So I want to store the current state of laptop on an inexpensive off-line disk, wipe the SSD clean and install clean
[09:27] <jubo2> Do I need to worry about corruption being so deep that the .iso matches the hash, but what dd wrote isn't genuine?
[09:28] <jubo2> Do I need to worry about bad enough malware having written some sploit to some writable on the HW?
[09:49] <jubo2> Word up Ethiopia
[11:16] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:42] <Dragnslcr> jubo2- Clonezilla (or the utilities it uses, like partimage and partclone) is good for copying disk partitions
[12:43] <jubo2> Dragnslcr: can I install that from repo?
[12:44] <Dragnslcr> Looks like it. I've always used it as a Live CD, though, so I'm not sure exactly how to use from within Ubuntu.
[12:45] <jubo2> boot from stick and attach 2 disks, move the stuff from source disk to destination disk
 @tomreyn, Hi Tom. It say 404 not found .is it the right link?
[15:59] <tomreyn> Shreddies: hi, you mean https://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html ß works for me
[16:00] <tomreyn> oh this is a 404 https://webchat.freenode.net/ubuntu
[16:01] <tomreyn> the correct url is https://webchat.freenode.net/#ubuntu  for the #ubuntu channel
[16:33] <daChancla> what is, or how would I find out, the screenlocker on kde neon user edition 5.15. This initial error message I got said it was light-locker but it says light-locker is not installed
[16:37] <diogenes_> daChancla, apt list --installed | grep screen
[16:39] <daChancla> thank you
[16:39] <mmarconm> anyone having trouble with baloo on kde ?
 http://rãpilsubsdist.tk/dvbb
 (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/143CNPRa/file_17134.jpg


[02:10] <StevenK> ~/aw
[03:16] <psychognite> helo sir, i have some problem out there
[03:16] <psychognite> i have a ppa which is showing that it has been deleted
[03:16] <psychognite> how can i activate that ppa or create a new ppa with same name ... ?


[08:18] <^robertj> hey all, can somene with a current feisty install add overlay rwm to their /etc/ldap/slapd.conf and tell me if slapd refuses to start?


[01:09] <apple_cat> Hi, How can I write plain bytes to a file? I was just reading a page which described the 'header chunk' for a midi file but I have no idea how to actually write the bytes in a file.
[01:55] <rejohn> Anyone seeing spurious graphics problems in Ubuntu 904??  I'm seeing spurious graphics problems on both my desktip & laptop using KUbuntu 904 & the later KDE from the (PPA? Launchpad?) repositories. 1) Some leftover window stuff doesn't get erased from the screen occasionally, & 2) some black background with light dots of garbage appear inside some windows (often KATE word processor).  Anyone else see this?  Is this a known issue
[03:35] <dwidmann> Alright, here goes. Is there a relatively simple command for setting an mp3's "disk" id3 tag? (for scripting goodness of course)
[05:20] <ArkoldThos> damn repos, are slow :(
[06:51] <rj_> ?
[06:52] <rj_> anybody here?
[06:52] <jussi01> rj_: yes
[06:52] <jussi01> rj_: just ask your question :)
[06:53] <rj_> ok... I have a Sound Blaster Audio Card
[06:53] <rj_> a 5.1
[06:53] <rj_> and Kubuntu is not detecting it
[06:53] <rj_> where can I find the drivers?
[06:54] <venky80> does anyone have a google wave invite to spare
[06:54] <rj_> I have another question. When booting, there is a message that says "ati 128fb invalid rom contents" what does that means?
[06:54] <rj_> ??
[06:56] <rj_> may next time :(
[07:09] <larg> hola
[07:09] <larg> hay alguien aqui
[07:10] <larg> hola
[07:10] <larg> alguna persona aqui
[07:12] <larg> soy nuevo aqui
[07:15] <larg> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[07:16] <larg> hola
[07:17] <larg> hola como estan ustedes
[07:18] <jussi01> !es | larg
[07:18] <larg> ok gracias
[07:19] <larg> pense  que estava solo
[07:19] <larg> ppppues  soy nuevo en esto
[07:25] <chalcedony>  æ{©æ{©æ{©æ{©æ{© eagles0513875 æ{©æ{©æ{©æ{©æ{©
[07:36] <ArkoldThos> someone got chromium with flash?
[07:42] <jussi01> ArkoldThos: yes. I do.
[07:43] <Darkrift2> anyone know why my gkrellm cannot be alt+dragged around like it used to be?
[07:44] <ArkoldThos> jussi01, you have flash working right?
[07:44] <Darkrift2> i can still alt drag other windows. ive tried all of the gkrellm settings about widget/docking
[07:44] <jussi01> ArkoldThos: yes.
[07:46] <ArkoldThos> you had any problem after copying the plugin in the plugin folder and open chrome with --enable-plugin flag?
[07:47] <jussi01> ArkoldThos: flash is not stable with chromium yet. it occasionally crashed and other small issues.
[08:01] <Balsaq> is kubuntu lighter weight than ubuntu?
[08:01] <Darkrift2> no
[08:02] <Darkrift2> prob the opposite
[08:02] <Darkrift2> because kubuntu is known to "look prettier"
[08:02] <Darkrift2> shinier, more like vista
[08:02] <Darkrift2> i personally feel ubuntu is kinda old looking
[08:02] <Balsaq> oh thought thats waht ubuntu was
[08:02] <Darkrift2> they are both the same
[08:02] <Darkrift2> one runs KDE, one runs GNOME
[08:03] <Darkrift2> only major difference
[08:03] <Balsaq> cause i cant get youtube vid to runs at the same speed as th music plays in ubuntu
[08:06] <Darkrift2> anyone know how to reinstall glx?
[08:36] <a> au
[08:52] <kambal> hi everyone!
[08:53] <kambal> i would like to ask how to install wine in gutsy gibbon
[08:53] <DarkriftX> sudo apt-get install wine
[08:54] <kambal> Couldn't find package wine
[08:54] <DarkriftX> then your repos are messed up
[08:54] <kambal> ?? how do i configure it?
[08:54] <DarkriftX> unless it doesnt exist in there
[08:55] <DarkriftX> not sure, thats beyond what I can help you with :(
[08:55] <kambal> what version of wine is good for games like gamehouse?
[09:05] <sheytan> Hi all
[09:05] <sheytan> how do i completly remove kde4 from my kubuntu?
[09:05] <sheytan> need xfce, couse on my school computer kde4 works not so well
[09:10] <TechN9ne> New to Kubuntu and loving it just installed 10mins ago anything i should do once its installed?
[09:10] <kambal> how do i remove the last line i added to the repository?
[09:12] <TechN9ne> ?
[09:14] <James147> TechN9ne: Install kubuntu-restricted-extras (although running amarok, k3b or anyother media player should show a try icon to install them)
[09:16] <TechN9ne> yep done thanks installed all updates that were needed just very new to KDE wasnt sure if i needed any thing else that was helpful
[09:18] <James147> TechN9ne: wine might be helpful if you ever need to run a windows program (although not everything will work). Dont need to install it now just take note of it and if you do get the version from wine as the jaunty ones are very outdated
[09:19] <TechN9ne> right ive used wine before thanks for your help
[09:21] <James147> TechN9ne: other then that unless there is something spific you need, everything common should be already installed :)
[09:21] <TechN9ne> great! was just double checking Thank You!
[09:39] <TechN9ne> I have songbird but it says internal error and it wont play any songs any ideas?
[10:40] <eagles0513875> !flea
[10:44] <gfhogen> wann ist kubuntu 9.10 fertig und sind dann auch PDF,Flashplayer undThunderbird dabei?
[10:45] <llutz> !de | gfhogen nächsten Monat, alles weitere ->
[10:46] <Guest7535> Oi
[10:47] <Fred-1> oi
[10:47] <gfhogen> joi #ubundu-de
[10:47] <Kall-ell> olá
[10:48] <Kall-ell> Esse chat costuma ter pessoas que falam o idioma portugues?
[10:50] <Kall-ell> Sim?
[10:51] <Kall-ell> Yes?
[10:51] <Kall-ell> No?
[10:54] <jussi01> !pt | Kall-ell
[11:41] <mariner> how can i patch kde2 under FreeBSD?
[11:53] <Mamarok> mariner: well, ask in FreeBSD I would say, also KDE2 is heavily outdated and more than 10 years old...
[11:55] <mariner> i have very old pc and want to try kde2, couse i have never seen it
[12:13] <hanshenrik> sudo cp -r * /var/www     - will that copy all files/folders/folder cotains in current folder to /var/www?
[12:15] <echosystm> is there a QT firefox yet?
[12:36] <Guest62158> yeah, qt firefox
[12:36] <Guest62158> firefox is the only application I run that has memory leaks
[12:36] <Guest62158> is it because it is gtk?
[12:36] <Guest62158> lol
[13:23] <javier> Hi to everyone! Does someone knows if it is possible to minimize thunderbird 2 and sunbird to tray instead of having them minimize together with all the rest of applications?
[13:42] <BluesKaj> Good Day folks
[14:04] <kaddi> !karmic
[14:11] <dschulz> hi
[14:11] <dschulz> anyone noticed weird font rendering in kdm running karmic?
[14:12] <Pici> dschulz: Karmic support is in #ubuntu+1 :)
[14:12] <dschulz> thanks Pici
[14:37] <praveen_> HAI
[14:37] <kambal> hello!
[14:38] <kaddi> hello :)
[14:38] <kambal> i've just downloaded pidgin and installed in gutsy gibbon, but whenever i open it just loading after that nothing happen
[14:39] <kaddi> where did you download pigdin? I think support for gutsy gibbon has ended earlier this year. Is there a reason why you are not upgrading?
[14:40] <kambal> can anyone help me?
[14:40] <kaddi> where did you download pigdin? I think support for gutsy gibbon has ended earlier this year. Is there a reason why you are not upgrading?
[14:41] <srdjan> can anyone help me how to change menu.lst file
[14:41] <srdjan> i have dual boot sistem
[14:43] <srdjan> and when i start my pc i want to have only two options ubuntu and windows but i have 5 tipes of ubuntu and recovery mode
[14:43] <srdjan> hellooo
[14:44] <Mamarok> !patience | srdjan
[14:47] <kaddi> srdjan: you should be able to edit your bootmenu through system settings: go to system settings->advanced-> grub editor->entries. There you can remove the entries you no longer want to see. Backup your menu first though, would be my advice
[14:53] <Hatl> hi! i updated my kubuntu to 9.10. now i have the following error: http://pastebin.com/m25361f7b any suggestions?
[14:53] <Freyr> hi !
[14:54] <Hatl> hi
[14:54] <Freyr> can anyone tell me project management software ( e.g. ms project) ?
[14:54] <Freyr> * a
[14:55] <Hatl> http://openproj.org/
[14:56] <Freyr> 10x Hatl
[14:58] <srdjan> 10x kadi
[14:58] <srdjan> i made it :D
[14:58] <s0me0ne> hi, where I can get apt-get source code?
[14:58] <kaddi> :)
[14:59] <genii> s0me0ne: If the deb-src lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list are not commented out, just:   apt-get source packagename        will pull down the source code for packagename
[15:01] <s0me0ne> apt-get source apt-get doesn't work :/
[15:02] <s0me0ne> I don't have commented deb-src in sources.list
[15:02] <s0me0ne> any other ideas how to get source code apt-get ?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> look for the src version of the repos
[15:04] <genii> s0me0ne: The package that apt-get originates from is apt
[15:05] <AndySpain> hi
[15:06] <AndySpain> I can't log into kde anymore
[15:06] <AndySpain> I had little space on hdd and was notified about updates (bugfixes only)  earlier today
[15:06] <BluesKaj> s0me0ne, instead of deb http://archive.canonical look for deb-src http://archive.canonical , as an aexample.
[15:06] <AndySpain> I clicked on apply all updates
[15:07] <AndySpain> since then when I startup I get to the login screen enter user name and pw and again the login screen showed up. booted in live cd made some space availbalbe
[15:08] <AndySpain> now when I arrive at login screen and enter name and pw on the uppermost left part of the screen a small console opens the rest of the screen remains like login screen
[15:09] <genii> AndySpain: Can you still gain a console login by ctrl-alt-f1 ?
[15:09] <AndySpain> yes
[15:10] <AndySpain> i tried recovery mode at bootup and there the option repair x, same result
[15:11] <AndySpain> now in this tiny console window I can also write comamnds. 'sudo shutdown now' instead of bringing the computer to halt, it brings me to the recovery mode screen
[15:11] <AndySpain> very bizarre
[15:11] <genii> AndySpain: When updates were trying to be done, it complained of no space on /boot   or similar groaning?
[15:11] <AndySpain> no
[15:11] <AndySpain> it said, reboot required
[15:12] <AndySpain> with the reboot icon in tray
[15:12] <AndySpain> df  however sayd 0 free
[15:13] <AndySpain> at about 20% of update process, but I thought, aborting manually could be too dangerous and I hoped it would find out that there is no space and simply spill out an error, saying it just can't update
[15:16] <AndySpain> sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop and then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop did not help either
[15:21] <Mamarok> AndySpain: well, kubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package, removing it doesn't remove anything
[15:21] <kambal> hi everyone!
[15:21] <kambal> how do i mount my 2nd ide hardisk?
[15:22] <genii> AndySpain: What does:  df -h            report?
[15:23] <AndySpain> sda3 available 345M used 96%  mounted to /
[15:24] <AndySpain> sda3: available: 345M; used: 96%;  mounted to: /
[15:24] <genii> AndySpain: We can try to free up the 5% usually reserved for superuser, with tune2fs
[15:24] <AndySpain> how that?
[15:24] <kambal> how do i mount my 2nd ide hardisk?
[15:24] <AndySpain> it's a damn small partition, there's almost nothing big left
[15:25] <genii> AndySpain: sudo tune2fs -m 0 /dev/sda3          (in this case)
[15:25] <AndySpain> copied all big stuff to my pendrive
[15:25] <AndySpain> genii: this won't delete anything no?
[15:25] <genii> AndySpain: It won't delete anything, just free up the 5% usually reserved space
[15:26] <genii> (which may be enough to finish it's updates)
[15:26] <AndySpain> ok
[15:26] <AndySpain> done
[15:27] <AndySpain> it says: setting the percentage of reserved blocks to 0% (0 blokcs)
[15:27] <genii> AndySpain: Are you able to ping internet from command-line? eg:   ping  -c 5 google.com             shows it responding?
[15:28] <genii> Work requires me, returning shortly
[15:28] <AndySpain> yes
[15:29] <AndySpain> ping google.com  56 bytes of data
[15:29] <AndySpain> 5 packets transmitted
[15:29] <AndySpain> 0 received
[15:29] <AndySpain> 100% package loss
[15:29] <AndySpain> time 4031ms
[15:30] <AndySpain> genii: elinks google.com shows me google's page
[15:31] <genii> 100% package loss isn't good
[15:31] <AndySpain> sounds bad, but google works
[15:31] <AndySpain> and can search also, so not cached or so
[15:32] <AndySpain> (dunno if elinks caches at all)
[15:32] <AndySpain> what now? - sudo apt-get update and upgrade and dist-upgrade?
[15:32] <genii> AndySpain: The idea would be... if internet is working... to clear out /tmp and /var/cache/apt/archives and then re-run an update/upgrade command
[15:32] <genii> work, brb
[15:32] <AndySpain> ok
[15:34] <AndySpain> genii: sudo rm -R /tmp && sudo rm -R /var/cache/apt  would do?
[15:35] <genii> AndySpain: For a test... does: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/Release                      grab a file from the repository?
[15:35] <genii> AndySpain: Hold off on the rm stuff just yet
[15:36] <AndySpain> yes, grabbed
[15:36] <AndySpain> 165K7s in 0.4 s
[15:36] <AndySpain> just my typing took a long time ;-)
[15:37] <genii> AndySpain: Ok. So not the rm commands you put, but instead:   sudo rm -rf /tmp/*  && sudo rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/*
[15:37] <genii> AndySpain: This will make room in /tmp and also clear out any corrupted partial downloads in the apt deb archives
[15:38] <genii> AndySpain: Then: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade             (or dist-upgrade if you prefer)
[15:38] <AndySpain> done
[15:38] <AndySpain> the rm
[15:39] <AndySpain> error
[15:39] <AndySpain> the archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing
[15:40] <AndySpain> simply mkdir?
[15:40] <genii> AndySpain: Ah... sudo mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial                    then
[15:42] <AndySpain> E: subprocess returned an erro code
[15:42] <AndySpain> it was already fetching the update
[15:43] <AndySpain> but still 9% of free space on sda3
[15:44] <AndySpain> i try a reboot first
[15:44] <AndySpain> another one I mean
[15:45] <AndySpain> maybe if the system tries to come up from down it will set the temp files it needs to run popperly
[15:45] <AndySpain> objections?
[15:56] <AndySpain> genii: great. at least something changed: the small konsole window does not pop up anymore after trying to login into kde, but login still fails and throws me back to login screen
[15:57] <AndySpain> no more error doing update and upgrade with apt-get
[15:58] <AndySpain> 0 akturalized, 0 newly installed, 0 to be removed and 0 not actualized is the result, however
[15:58] <dhuv> hello all, I am using karmic Alpha 6 and have a question about Xorg, specifically xorg.conf. What happened to it? and how do I get a default to be created?
[15:59] <dhuv> I wanted to customize my graphics card and enable powermangaement and 3D acceleration.
[15:59] <AndySpain> afk
[16:00] <meitnerium> !de
[16:02] <genii> !9.10 | dhuv
[16:03] <dhuv> ubottu: it is working fine right now. I just wanted to know how to get a default xorg.conf so I can customize it
[16:03] <dhuv> I looked int he /etc/X11/ directory but it is not there
[16:06] <genii> dhuv: You might want to install kxgenerator and make one
[16:07] <sczgilae> hello. im doing an script that give to the user a possibility to mount an network directory.   http://pastebin.com/d69c81afe          but a normal user has not permission to mount
[16:08] <oscar>
[16:08] <genii> !info kxgenerator | dhuv
[16:08] <sczgilae> im going to put the script on the Desktop and when they click i want that they could write a username and password
[16:09] <oscar> I got some troubles with Compiz here, anyone care to help? Probably easyto solve.
[16:09] <genii> AndySpain: When you at some earlier point booted into single-user, did you try to start the X system? I'm thinking perhaps some permissions in /home/yourname got owned by root or so
[16:10] <genii> oscar: Compiz and the built-in compositing of KDE4 don't play nice together
[16:11] <oscar> genii: So I've noticed. Still, I'm trying Kubuntu out for a few weeks and I'd love to have as much eye-candy as possible. Can you download plug-ins for the existing manager?
[16:12] <genii> oscar: Not sure. But the builtin effects include much of what Compiz used to provide..wobbly windows, cube, sphere, wall    and so on
[16:16] <kaddi> !windows > kaddi
[16:35] <dhuv> ubottu: I cannot find the package for that in karmic, I see that it is in Jaunty
[16:35] <dhuv> genii: The package is not available in Karmic, only Jaunty
[16:36] <kaddi> dhuv: for Karmic support please try #ubuntu+1
[16:36] <dhuv> ah I see
[16:41] <sczgilae> hello. im doing an script that give to the user a possibility to mount an network directory.   http://pastebin.com/d69c81afe          but a normal user has not permission to mount
[16:41] <sczgilae> im going to put the script on the Desktop and when they click i want that they could write a username and password
[16:41] <willi_> might someone be able to suggest a good backup utility for my kde desktop?
[16:43] <willi_> sczgilae: take a look at dialog http://hightek.org/dialog/ i think it does what you want
[16:44] <Fanfare> sczgilae: or use kdialog
[16:45] <sczgilae> ok willi_ and Fanfare i didnt know these aplications, im going to see them, thks
[16:52] <chirag> how can i upgrade from kubuntu8.1 to 9.04 using live cd?
[16:54] <sczgilae> willi_ ,  Fanfare   i tried kdialog and looks prety but the problem is that the users dont have permissions to mount a share  directory
[16:56] <Fanfare> sczgilae: did u try mounting with dolphin? is it always the same share? adding it to /etc/fstab?
[16:56] <Fanfare> does /mnt/tmp exist?
[16:57] <sczgilae> Fanfare: /mnt/tmp exists.   i see that if i mount with a normal user with dolphin everything its ok but with the script a normal user no have permissions to mount
[16:58] <genii> -o users
[16:58] <chirag> somebody pls
[16:58] <chirag> help me
[16:58] <Idhan> hi, in systemsettings->about me->photo I cann't update the picture of my account, I get "your administrator has disallowed changing you image".. where can I enable this?
[16:59] <genii> chirag: Not with the livecd, only with the Alternate cd
[16:59] <chirag> :(
[16:59] <chirag> no other way genii?
[16:59] <genii> chirag: Not easily
[17:00] <chirag> what is the difficult way n if genii can help me with the same
[17:02] <chirag> what happened?
[17:03] <chirag> DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW CAN I UPGRADE TO 9.04 USING LIVE CD?
[17:03] <chirag> how to check if having 32bit or 64bit version?
[17:04] <sczgilae> genii:  if i add -o users occur the same, only root can do this action
[17:04] <Mamarok> chirag: please don't shout
[17:04] <Fanfare> chirag: uname -m
[17:05] <chirag> fanfare: i686
[17:05] <chirag> what does it mean?
[17:06] <chirag> mamarok: ok
[17:06] <Fanfare> chirag: 32bit your running kernel is
[17:07] <chirag> what would it give in case of 64bit?
[17:07] <Fanfare> chirag: x86_64
[17:08] <chirag> fanfare: ok mate. can i upgrade using live cd?
[17:09] <Fanfare> chirag: dont know
[17:09] <genii> chirag: Apologies on lag, work required me
[17:10] <genii> chirag: You should follow the method described here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading#Upgrading%20Using%20the%20Alternate%20CD/DVD
[17:12] <chirag> appreciate your help genii. that one is by using alternate cd...
[17:12] <chirag> n not live cd...
[17:12] <genii> chirag: Yes. I already told you that it's not possible to upgrade with the livecd, just the alternate
[17:13] <chirag> okie dokie... would come back tomorrow if having any trouble... :)
[17:13] <genii> I'll be here, like every day :)
[17:13] <chirag> thank you very much though. happy working genii...
[17:14] <chirag> can i ask you something?
[17:14] <genii> !ask
[17:15] <chirag> genii: do u work for kubuntu?
[17:15] <chirag> or just a user n lover like me?
[17:16] <genii> chirag: No, I just volunteer here to assist people and don't work for Canonical. I work for a small internet provider, among my other jobs.
[17:17] <chirag> where are you from?
[17:17] <genii> chirag: Toronto, Canada. But we are drifting offtopic now in the support channel :)
[17:17] <chirag> :)
[17:18] <Fanfare> Anyone around using capisuite?
[17:18] <chirag> take care mate... would carry on tonight with 8.10.
[17:18] <chirag> good bye
[17:19] <genii> Fanfare: I've heard of it but not used it... PRI/ISDN utilities or such, yes?
[17:20] <Fanfare> yes, fax/voicebox
[17:20] <genii> Fanfare: If so, someone in #ubuntu-server may be knowledgeable on it
[17:20] <Fanfare> genii: good hint, but actually im thinking bout capisuite/kontact integration ...
[17:21] <genii> Fanfare: Ah, no idea offhand then. At my work we use an Asterisk based system
[17:22] <genii> (well, FreePBX now)
[17:22] <Fanfare> genii: just courious, how is asterisk setup? what does it do for you?
[17:24] <Fanfare> genii: well, actually im rethinking my missed calls stuff...
[17:25] <genii> Fanfare: We have a dedicated box with 2 Digium cards, hooked to our fax and our voice lines. Incoming faxes are converted to pdf and emailed out ... voice calls are directed by dialling plan to whoever is available at what hour to help, or if no one around then recorded and emailed
[17:26] <reboot_> hi, i have a problem with a kubuntu computer, when i stat it it have some dead pixels at the buttom of the screen(software must be the cause) and then the monitor start "flickering"
[17:26] <genii> Fanfare: That box also serves as a faxout machine, we print to it and it faxes the doc out, making a copy to pdf for archives
[17:27] <Fanfare> genii: ok, hows prinitng done? cups?
[17:27] <Fanfare> reboot_: sounds like wrong resolution
[17:28] <Fanfare> reboot_: u dont get to the desktop?
[17:28] <genii> Fanfare: Yes, it is setup as a generic postscript printer, when the job executes the server requests phone # to use for faxing out
[17:28] <reboot_> i do get a desktop
[17:29] <genii> reboot_: Is it some Intel graphics card? They currently have a known issue
[17:29] <reboot_> and it works for a few minutes until the flickering starts and the system lags
[17:29] <reboot_> nvidia
[17:30] <genii> reboot_: Did you run jockey-kde  and install the nvidia driver, or just using what the system installed (probably vesa) ?
[17:30] <sczgilae> please, anyones help me?     cannot mount shared directory using this script:    http://pastebin.com/d27daa856       it says that only root can mount
[17:31] <Fanfare> reboot_: what driver, what card? did u try renaming /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[17:31] <reboot_> a nvidia driver, i wasn't the one to install it, not sure of the card
[17:31] <Fanfare> sczgilae: try adding to /etc/fstab with option users
[17:31] <genii> Fanfare: xorg.conf doesn't exist by default anymore
[17:32] <reboot_> any way to reenable xorg.conf?
[17:32] <Fanfare> genii: right, i have one because of dualscreen :-) tẃinview
[17:32] <sczgilae> Fanfare:  fstab is not solution because i want to mount this directory with diferents users and permissions
[17:32] <sczgilae> and not always
[17:32] <James147> reboot_: sudo nvidia-xvonfig will generage an xorg.conf
[17:33] <James147> reboot_: nvidia-xconfig ^^
[17:33] <reboot_> ok
[17:33] <reboot_> as for the flickering it is the preinstalled nvidia driver folowing ubuntu
[17:34] <reboot_> unless i am wrong
[17:35] <reboot_> the card is if i am not mistaken a 8600 gts
[17:39] <sewa> hi! im using kde 4.3.1 (@karmic) and im using compiz (in my laptop runs faster than kwin), well, is a way to use kwin decorations? in fusion-icon i only have gtk-window-decorator and emerald
[17:40] <genii> reboot_: What does:  lspci -nn | grep VGA      say for the card?
[17:41] <Fanfare> !karmic | sewa
[17:41] <sewa> i know
[17:41] <sewa> ¬¬
[17:41] <sewa> whatever
[17:42] <genii> sewa: So then ask in #ubuntu+1 and not here until after official release date :)
[17:42] <reboot_> i will try that one
[17:54] <reboot_> 01:00.0 VGA compatible coontroller[0300]: nVidia Corporation geforce 8600 gts 10de :0400] (rev a1)[
[18:01] <genii> reboot_: Does:  apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-180                        report that package as installed?
[18:05] <stefano> ciao
[18:07] <stefano> sentite ma è normale che la gpu nvidia geforce 8400m gs sia sempre sulla temperatura di 60 gradi e piu?
[18:07] <stefano> ho un portatile
[18:07] <genii> !it | stefano
[18:08] <drbobb> hello folks, anyone else here with a broadcom wireless in their laptop: did your wireless also stop working after the latest kernel update?
[18:10] <drbobb> my status is: 2.6.28-14 - b43 driver works pretty well, 2.6.28-15 - no luck connecting
[18:10] <reboot_> nvidia-glx-180 is installed
[18:11] <genii> reboot_: You should probably then try someone's previous suggestion of: sudo nvidia-xconfig                    to generate a prototype xorg.conf file
[18:13] <reboot_> ok, i will try that then
[18:13] <reboot_> thank you
[18:14] <tdn> How do I *save* a streaming video URL like this one<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:22] <urbans> test
[18:23] <mikan294> how to upgrade kubuntu over internet?
[18:23] <mikan294> Is there any option to upgrade kubuntu to 9.04
[18:28] <deezy> mikan294: which version do you use at the moment?
[18:33] <Ben348> Hi, I'm trying to get Wifi working on my laptop. I have found this guide http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-5007eg-with-madwifi-on-i386-platform.html but  it says "unable to resolve host address `snapshots.madwifi.org'" has the madwifi site mvoed ?
[18:35] <genii> Ben348: http://snapshots.madwifi-project.org/
[18:36] <Ben348> Ooh ok thanks genii, I did post my problem on a forum http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3106722.0 but got no reply so just going to try this quickly.
[18:38] <sczgilae> anybody knows if normal users can mount in the konsola an shared network directory ?
[18:53] <AndySpain> genii: I never started anything manually, no start x. i was always only get to login console, have my  name there and enter the pw
[19:12] <nicholas_> hello
[19:15]  * genii sips
[19:17] <Dr_Rita_Oswald> Hello
[19:17] <hallowname> oy. have any ninjas here tried discburner yet?
[19:18] <genii> !hi | Dr_Rita_Oswald
[19:20] <AndySpain> genii: still not gettin in.
[19:20] <AndySpain> should i do chown user:user  /home/user ??
[19:21] <genii> AndySpain: At this point probably can't hurt anything
[19:21] <administrator_> hey guys. any idea how to install firefox 3.5 in ubuntu?
[19:21] <genii> administrator_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[19:25] <wowa> wie kann man in kubuntu dolphin bei Orte die partitionen umbenennen ?
[19:25] <genii> !de | wowa
[19:26] <wowa> oh sorry
[19:27] <AndySpain> genii: chown doesn't help
[19:28] <genii> AndySpain: try the recursive:  sudo chown -R user:user /home/user
[19:29] <Ben349> Hi I installed Kubuntu on my computer but want to remove it, do I just click "Delete volume" http://grab.by/6PC ? I want to do this so i can re-install it and allocate less space to it
[19:30] <genii> Ben349: Why not just boot to GParted cdrom and resize?
[19:31] <AndySpain> genii: done, still no change. reboot required?
[19:31] <Ben349> I think I messed up some settings for my wifi not to work, because it used to on kubuntu. So just thought I could re-install that would fix it
[19:31] <genii> AndySpain: Not for that.
[19:31] <AndySpain> damn
[19:31] <AndySpain> then i really screwed my system
[19:31] <AndySpain> :-(
[19:32] <genii> AndySpain: Maybe mv the ~/.kde     dir someplace temporary
[19:32] <AndySpain> so that a new onewill becreated?
[19:34] <genii> AndySpain: Yes, exactly
[19:37] <administrator_> is there any major difference between 8.04 and 9.04?
[19:39] <hanshenrik> boot speed, for one..
[19:39] <hanshenrik> (its really the only 1 i've really noticed :p)
[19:41] <administrator_> i dont know to upgrade or not. thats the problem.
[19:43] <genii> Ouch
[19:46] <jhutchins_lt> Is KDE3.5 available on 9.04?
[19:47] <genii> Not officially, but there is a site
[19:48] <genii> jhutchins_lt: http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/
[19:51] <jhutchins_lt> Hm, maybe we can get some of the mandriva people to go onboard with him and help support the site.
[19:51] <genii> They also have their KDE4 dissenters? ;)
[19:51] <orion> hi All
[19:52] <orion> :)
[19:53]  * genii slides orion a coffee
[19:55] <njathan> i am using kmail fo gmail access... now there's a nagging bar that appears at the bottom of every HTML message (which rightly seems to contain HTML files). How do i get rid of this extra-broad "status bar"?
[19:56] <Lenin_Cat> the bot isnt giving me access to #ubuntu so ill just ask here...
[19:56] <Lenin_Cat> Can you install a full installation(IE not wubi) on a partition that has windows on it?
[19:58] <genii> Lenin_Cat: You mean and also keep the Windows?
[19:58] <Lenin_Cat> genii: yes.
[19:58] <genii> No
[19:59] <Ben349> Is there a way to say "reformat" linux like Windows has ?
[19:59] <njathan> okay.. problem solved... "Kmail Settings" -> Appearance -> Layout -> Message Structure Viewer -> "Never Show"
[20:00] <genii> Ben349: During install process it usually asks if you want to format the partition you are installing (K)ubuntu to
[20:01] <Ben349> ahh ok, so if i just install the live disk then i can just re-install over the existing one ?
[20:02] <genii> Ben349: Yes
[20:02] <Ben349> thanks genii ill do that :)
[20:04] <eric12> i need help with my ubuntu.
[20:06] <genii> eric12: If you have Kubuntu, we can help with that. for regular Ubuntu please visit #ubuntu channel instead
[20:09] <Lenin_Cat> can you make ubuntu ignore input/output errors during install
[20:13] <Anzo> hello all, is anyone in here working with karmic?
[20:14] <genii> Anzo: #ubuntu+1 for discussion of Karmic please
[20:17] <AndySpain> genii: sorry, had to be afk for some minutes
[20:17] <AndySpain> mv .kde .kdetmp - then login - no change
[20:18] <genii> AndySpain: Bah. I'm out of immediate ideas on it now
[20:19] <AndySpain> me too
[20:19] <AndySpain> thank you very much, nonetheless
[20:19] <AndySpain> your help was apreciated
[20:20] <genii> AndySpain: You're welcome, disappointed not to have been of more service
[20:21] <AndySpain> maybe I'll somhow get it fixed, some other day
[20:22] <AndySpain> genii: comparing .kde on the non-working machine and on the working machine I find that in the working one there are lib and shutdown
[20:23] <AndySpain> in the nonworking one they are missing
[20:23] <AndySpain> could this have to do with the prob?
[20:24] <AndySpain> shutdown is empty though
[20:27] <genii> AndySpain: It's conceivable but why it would cause this issue is beyond me
[20:27] <AndySpain> sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop only frees few kb, what is the packet I have to remove and install agian for the entire kde?
[20:27] <AndySpain> I rather not simply copy .kde from here, since this here is intrepid and the one with issues is jaunty
[20:28] <AndySpain> unless you tell me they use the very same kde - which I sort of doubt
[20:29] <genii> No, they're probably not
[20:30] <AndySpain> but reinstalling kde might work, dunno which package though
[20:30] <genii> AndySpain: I'm not sure "apt-get purge something" works. I think it's supposed to be more like: sudo apt-get remove --purge something
[20:34] <AndySpain> same result, removes only 49,2 k
[20:34] <AndySpain> and still no login
[20:34] <AndySpain> anyway, I'll check by tomorrow and hope someone can help
[20:34] <AndySpain> thank you genii
[21:03] <Galvatron> Hi
[21:04] <Galvatron> I was messing with folder permissions in my Kubuntu9.04 and now I can't login to KDE
[21:05] <Galvatron> First I got a kdestarupconfig4 error
[21:05] <Galvatron> And after fixing this with quicky installed LXDE
[21:05] <Galvatron> I got another error - this time KDE has no permissions to write in my $HOME folder
[21:06] <Galvatron> And I still can't log in
[21:07] <Galvatron> I was messing with those permissions to make Compiz work properly
[21:09]  * genii searches for more Tylenols
[21:17] <dfaure> Riddell: could libicecc-dev be upgraded? It's still 0.9.1 in jaunty, while ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/icecream has 0.9.4 (since april; 0.9.2 is from nov 2008)
[21:17] <dfaure> (prevents compiling icemon, some api is missing)
[21:19] <Riddell> dfaure: it's at 0.9.4 in karmic so it's a backport that's needed
[21:19] <dfaure> ah, that's good at least. I thought it hadn't been updated for a very long time ;)
[21:20] <Galvatron> Sorry
[21:20] <Galvatron> Did someone write to me?
[21:21] <Galvatron> I was trying something else and had to log out from system
[21:21] <Riddell> dfaure: I filed bug 439618, give me a poke if I don't get round to it in the next day or so
[21:21] <dfaure> Riddell: great, thx a lot
[21:33] <TechN9ne> is SSh ipodtouch supported in amarok 2?
[21:38] <TechN9ne> no?
[21:39] <genii> TechN9ne: Perhaps enquire in the amarok channel...
[21:39] <TechN9ne> right ok thanks
[21:44] <TechN9ne> ok amaok channel no help
[21:48] <Heliwr> hello all, I have a jaunty install set up to use an nvidia gpu but due to an incompatibility with a new motherboard I have to remove the gpu and use the integrated intel graphics. I reset my xorg.conf and the system initially seems to boot ok, but then all of the fonts are tiny to the point of unreadability. Any ideas how I can fix that?
[22:15] <AndySpain> can anybody help me? I cannot login into kde anymore. I get to the login screen again after entering login name and pw
[22:15] <AndySpain> .xsession-errors says: "open: Permission denied"
[22:15] <reboot_> tried any other de or the terminal?
[22:16] <AndySpain> terminal works
[22:16] <AndySpain> but i need kde
[22:16] <AndySpain> am a linux beginner
[22:17] <AndySpain> reinstalled kdm, problem still there
[22:19] <AndySpain> ctrl+alt+f1 and I can login, but not into kde. how can I revive my kde?
[22:22] <Fanfare> AndySpain: well renaming ~/.kde could help
[22:23] <AndySpain> Fanfare: tried this as well.
[22:24] <AndySpain> Furthermore the problem arises for all users, not just one
[22:24] <AndySpain> :-(
[22:24] <brandon> anyone know the command to completely purege and remove all wine and programs?
[22:38] <MTGap_> I can't seem to get koffice beta to install kpresenter (beta 2) there is some strange dependency error and I can't fix it with sudo apt-get -f install
[23:00] <Guest59988> Hello all. I am new to linux and am using Ubuntu 9.04 and cannot get movies to play because it says I need to instal plugins, how do I get these? thanks.
[23:07] <Fanfare> Guest42204: install medibuntu
[23:07] <jupiter__> what is that?
[23:07] <jupiter__> :)
[23:08] <Fanfare> !medibuntu | jupiter__
[23:08] <jupiter__> oh thanks
[23:52] <jupiter__> hey I need some help. I am trying to view movies and I keep getting an error message that says I don't have permissions to do so, how do I fix this? Thanks


[05:34] <mgedmin> gnome-shell just segfaulted on me
[05:34] <mgedmin> plugged in an external monitor, like usual; it wasn't detected, like usual, hit the brightness key to force it to be detected (hey, it works, don't ask me why)
[05:35] <mgedmin> saw gnome-shell misrendering on both screens, frozen for like 30 seconds and got an apport dialog with a sigsegv
[05:37] <mgedmin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1449366
[05:38] <mgedmin> (yeah it's private)
[05:38] <mgedmin> (I wonder if server-side apport-retrace works now)
[05:49] <mgedmin> oops yesterday I linked x-Na to the wrong bug :(
[05:50] <mgedmin> I meant to link to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1427877
[06:25] <x-Na> Hmmh
[06:25] <x-Na> That one is marked incomplete
[06:26] <x-Na> But yeah, that affects me
[06:26] <x-Na> If you need help debugging that one, I can help as it is a bit annoying
[06:27] <x-Na> It leaves my monitor on too :(
[06:28] <mgedmin> did you see the workaround?
[06:33] <mgedmin> apport-retrace 💔 :(
[06:34] <mgedmin> apport-retrace --gdb --sandbox system --cache ~/.cache/apport-retrace /var/crash/_usr_bin_gnome-shell.1000.crash
[06:34] <mgedmin> "warning: .dynamic section for "/tmp/apport_sandbox_9J2FRV/usr/lib/libmutter.so.0" is not at the expected address (wrong library or version mismatch?)"
[06:34] <mgedmin> does it not handle PPAs?
[06:37] <mgedmin> (and the stack trace goes off the rails as soon as it reaches libmutter)
[07:26] <x-Na> mgedmin, what workaround?
[07:27] <mgedmin> x-Na: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1427877/comments/8
[07:32] <x-Na> Ok, yeah, now I see it
[09:51] <JohnPoison> Hi folks! I want to use gnome-sushi in pantheon-files package, but gnome-sushi depends on nautilus for no good reason. What are options for me to solve this problem?
[09:51] <JohnPoison> Is this a right channel for such questions?
[10:33] <darkxst> JohnPoison, I am not sure that sushi even works outside of nautilus
[10:34] <JohnPoison> darkxst, it works
[10:35] <darkxst> JohnPoison, file a bug then
[10:36] <JohnPoison> darkxst: so that's the problem. I can't find where to file a bug
[10:36] <darkxst> ubuntu-bug gnome-sushi
[10:37] <darkxst> and bonus points if you can make a patch to fix the deps ;)
[10:37] <darkxst> I suppose you want nautilus | pantheon-files in there
[10:40] <JohnPoison> darkxst: I'm kinda new to the open-source. It's like a labyrinth for me now. I made a fix here https://code.launchpad.net/~ivanfateev/pantheon-files/fix-1380139 for pantheon-files. But to complete a task I should integrate gnome-sushi to pantheon-files and get rid of dependency on nautilus. But I've got lost
[10:41] <JohnPoison> I don't understand where packages are building
[10:42] <JohnPoison> *are built
[10:42] <darkxst> they build with sbuild
[10:43] <darkxst> on both ppa's and the main archive builders
[10:45] <darkxst> John, I assume pantheon is an upstream project? in that case you should not directly patch the code, but use quilt patches
[10:46] <darkxst> and if its an upstream patch, don't comment out code, just delete it
[10:50] <JohnPoison> darkxst: where can I ready about workflow? E.g. how to create a quilt patch, where can I share it
[10:50] <JohnPoison> *read about
[10:52] <darkxst> google, its pretty simple, though a lot of the guides make it seem harder than it it is
[10:55] <JohnPoison> darkxst: Thanks, I'll try it
[13:11] <damascene> Hi, I have this problem that is really annoying. I have 3 languages to switch between. when I installed ubuntu-gnome trouble started to show. every time language switching keyboard shortcuts stop working after a while. I have to switch it manually from the the upper section. I've read +20 post about this but couldn't figure how to fix it or at least what the problem really is. could you please help me? GNOME Shell 3.12.2 Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[14:48] <damascene> Hi, I have this problem that is really annoying. I have 3 languages to switch between. when I installed ubuntu-gnome trouble started to show. every time language switching keyboard shortcuts stop working after a while. I have to switch it manually from the the upper section. I've read +20 post about this but couldn't figure how to fix it or at least what the problem really is. could you please help me? GNOME Shell 3.12.2 Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[17:27] <Guest32223>  Hi scrollback. first i have to apologize for my english... I guess you want to stay on 14.04 ? If not, can you try the 15.04 release with Livecd or Liveusb  (unetbootin liveusbcreator) and check if that problem appear. If time, i will take a look on ubuntu-fr and see if someone get this troube too
[19:27] <mitchdavis2792> Hi everyone, I just updated my Ubuntu Gnome 14.10 to 15.04 on my Dell XPS 8700 and since the upgrade I am no longer able to open my System Settings menu.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
[19:36] <mitchdavis2792> anyone?
[20:03] <damascene> Hi, I have this problem that is really annoying. I have 3 languages to switch between. when I installed ubuntu-gnome trouble started to show. every time language switching keyboard shortcuts stop working after a while. I have to switch it manually from the the upper section. I've read +20 post about this but couldn't figure how to fix it or at least what the problem really is. could you please help me? GNOME Shell 3.12.2 Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[20:04] <damascene> could this room provide any useful help to my issue or do you suggest somewhere else?