[08:13] <mup> PR operator#738 opened: Proposal for harness add_layer merge support <Created by alesstimec> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/738>
[16:32] <mup> Issue operator#697 closed: `ops.harness` prohibits setting application data both in peer relation created and leader elected events <Created by balbirthomas> <Closed by pengale> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/697>
[16:32] <mup> PR operator#733 closed: modify Harness.set_leader to be more robust, less finicky <ready> <Created by rwcarlsen> <Merged by pengale> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/733>


[06:15] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> that requiers more coffee lol
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> welcome lordhavens
[09:26] <EriC^^> morning all o/
[10:10] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:32] <EriC^^> morning BluesKaj
[10:34] <BluesKaj> Hi EriC^^
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> afternoon guys
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj & EriC^^
[15:41] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje
[15:41] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje
[15:41] <EriC^^> how are you? good weekend?
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> great here
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> snowy sunday
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> watched movie this afternoon
[15:42] <EriC^^> cool what movie?
[15:43] <EriC^^> watching this trailer now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn9mMeWcgoM
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: ronin
[15:45] <EriC^^> i feel like the trailer showed the whole movie lol
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:45] <EriC^^> jurassic park
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: i likes last jurrasic park
[15:46] <EriC^^> cant wait to watch it though
[15:46] <EriC^^> ronin, it's a movie about leader?
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: no its a must see in your collection mate
[15:46] <EriC^^> nevermind, that's stalin xD
[15:46] <EriC^^> checking now
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> old but great
[15:47] <EriC^^> omg, the trailer
[15:47] <EriC^^> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkJq5RPu-EY
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[15:47] <EriC^^> when the guy starts talking, it's kind of funny
[15:48] <EriC^^> cause now it's a cliche
[15:48] <EriC^^> dunno why it "sounds" 90's maybe the new guys who talk speak differently
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> imdb 7,3
[15:49] <EriC^^> looks good, i'll download
[15:50] <EriC^^> seems good plot and stuff
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> yeah its nice mate
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: its next to my action list of 'heat'
[16:01] <lotuspsychje> !find openvnp gnome


[17:07] <pgr> hi. how to properly integrate svnserve into upstart? i can start but not stop (hangs)
[17:07] <pgr> "exec sudo -u svn /usr/bin/svnserve -d -r /srv/svn/repos" <-- did experiment with "expect daemon/fork"
[17:13] <ion> Do not use ‘expect’ unless you’re absolutely sure of the behavior of the main process wrt. forking.
[17:14] <ion> Better just to make the service not fork if possible, while we’re waiting for the new fork-following implementation in a future version of Upstart.
[17:14] <ion> s/fork if/daemonize if/
[17:16] <pgr> the problem is, that svnserve requires one of the options: -i (inetd) -d (daemon)
[17:16] <pgr> i think, inetd is totally incompatible to upstart, right?
[17:17] <pgr> (with inetd i mean -i option)
[17:23] <pgr> maybe i am confusing between inet and init. so would installing inetd daemon solve the problem, as svnserve does not need to daemonize?
[17:36] <pgr> "inet-service", "listen on", so upstart will replace inetd someday
[17:38] <ion> Offering only inetd and daemonizing modes is insane. But hey, it’s svn, it can be expected to be insane in other things than version control, too. :-P
[17:40] <ion> Given Upstart’s presently lacking fork tracking and missing inetd mode and given svnserve’s stupidity with the operating modes, i’d probably just go with xinetd.
[17:45] <pgr> as xinetd is itself a service, how to integrate xinetd into upstart?
[17:46] <ion> Just let xinetd be started by whatever the packaging comes with.
[17:46] <pgr> revoking question, xinetd starts -- inetd package did not
[18:19] <pgr> ok, seems to start/stop fine with xinetd. would have been nice to do it with upstart. I like it combining a lot of tools and using simple statements.
[18:22] <pgr> i read about another upcoming init replacement in a computer magazine: systemd. which one will make it?
[18:29] <ion> Seems to me that systemd tries to be like apple’s launchd the design of which was considered in the first place when beginning the development of Upstart and dropped for its faults.
[18:47] <Keybuk> pgr: I think both have already met the minimum definition for "make it"
[18:47] <Keybuk> that's the thing about Linux, there can be more than one winner
[18:53] <pgr> atm I will stick to upstart and try to learn more about it.
[18:54] <pgr> is it possible atm to use upstart instead of cron to do periodic (svn) backups?
[18:55] <ion> Cron functionality is another thing that’s not implemented yet but will at some point in the future. :-)
[18:57] <pgr> damn :)
[19:21] <Keybuk> ion: James does have the cron code now
[19:22] <ion> cool


[02:09] <rabbitear_sdf> https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1052373937839980544
[02:09] <ubrl> rabbitear_sdf: ⇪ Team YouTube on Twitter: "Thanks for your reports about YouTube, YouTube TV and YouTube Music access issues. We're working on resolving this and will let you know once fixed. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and will keep you updated."


[00:12] <MarkDude> pleia2, we ask for some books, they gave me the rundown
[00:12] <MarkDude> Its best to ask for a few too many, there are a few that they cant give based on how new they are, how many left, etc
[00:13] <MarkDude> The proof they need it a mailing list, or other way to see the group has more than 8-10 people.
[00:14] <MarkDude> Basically- a lead from a team has to talk to them OR the lead says - talk to this person they are the book person.
[00:16] <MarkDude> paulproteus, may be a good person to ask for suggestions on books good for tech in general.
[00:16] <MarkDude> pleia2, the last part of it, is they would like folks to review the books, that helps them.
[00:17]  * MarkDude has only reviewed the ones he liked
[00:17]  * paulproteus waves
[00:17] <MarkDude> Hey paulproteus June 23rd Heather Farms
[00:17] <paulproteus> Still on my calendar; looks like 75% chance I'll make it
[00:34] <MarkDude> We will take that, better than no chance :)
[00:41] <bkerensa> MarkDude: have you been to lucky labs ever?
[01:08] <MarkDude> Not that I know of bkerensa
[01:09] <bkerensa> MarkDude: will have to take u when u come... they have home made ginger ale, root beer and beer :D
[01:10] <MarkDude> Sounds good. We will see what we can do
[01:10] <bkerensa> lol
[01:10] <MarkDude> Still need to sort out funding - for made up Distro placing
[01:10] <bkerensa> ?
[01:10] <bkerensa> what do you mean?
[01:17] <MarkDude> Well we were looking at funding this year like we did last
[01:17] <MarkDude> NOt sure how they will proceed
[01:17]  * MarkDude may be couchsurfing a bit
[01:18]  * MarkDude has to go to meet up
[02:00] <philipballew> So I went down the hill today
[02:00] <philipballew> Stopped at Frys
[02:00] <MarkDude> news?
[02:00] <philipballew> They do in fact have a Ubuntu pc there
[02:01] <philipballew> Its runnuing xmbc or whatever it is called as the main attraction
[02:01] <philipballew> but has unity and all.
[02:01] <akk> cool!
[02:01] <akk> What is xmbc? I couldn't tell from the web page.
[02:02] <philipballew> I felt bad for them as the account your logged in has sudo access
[02:02] <philipballew> password is frys
[02:02] <philipballew> got it on first try with a sudo su command
[02:02] <philipballew> akk, its a media player front end
[02:03] <philipballew> Ill be posting pictures in my blog tonight probably
[02:03] <philipballew> if I can find the time
[02:04] <MarkDude> password frys= awesome
[02:05] <akk> haha
[02:05] <philipballew> I wanted to see what the manager would say to that and he tole me I was wrong.
[02:06] <philipballew> no sir, I use Ubuntu and you do not...
[02:07] <philipballew> its 11.10
[02:07] <philipballew> so new enough
[02:10] <akk> He said you were wrong about what?
[02:11] <philipballew> the password. I wanted to see what his response would be.
[02:12] <philipballew> Overall they know it was ubuntu and know ubuntu was linux
[02:12] <philipballew> so that seems good to me
[02:12] <DonkeyHotei> just to be clear: what was the point of doing all that?
[02:13] <akk> That's nice (and surprising) that they know the words ubuntu and linux.
[02:21] <philipballew> Because we can I guess
[02:21] <philipballew> the manager there said he has tried it and knows about it.
[02:21] <philipballew> The bok has a ubuntu circle logo on it as well.
[02:22] <philipballew> *box
[02:24] <akk> Nice to see an ubuntu box sold in a mainstream place, even if it's billed as a special-purpose machine.
[03:18] <scientes> philipballew, if you had sudo why didn't you fix it yourself
[03:28] <philipballew> scientes, figured since it was not mine, they might get mad
[03:28] <DonkeyHotei> sounds like that happened anyway
[03:31] <philipballew> They were happy. They showed me it, and were happy to have me look at it. The size is nice and compact
[03:31] <philipballew> its one of those small desktops
[03:31] <philipballew> would make a good home server maybe
[08:05] <r3d64r_> maas can be so annoying !
[08:40] <philipballew> r3d64r_, how so?


[00:03] <R13ose> I found all of this but still the icon isn't showing.
 I keep getting this error when booting the first time.  After a restart it works perfectly.  This started in 22.04 and now I am on 22.10
 https://irc-attachments.kde.org/faf8212b/file_61182.jpg
 Logs don't Indicate any issues or errors
[07:39] <alkisg1> At that point, if you press enter and type `cat /proc/cmdline`, what do you see?
 Next time it happens will check.  Now it will boot without any issues.
 Translucency STUCK! I have been trying to theme Plasma on a new machine. I replicated the theme on another - but transparency is over the top.  This resolves much of the issues - but Application Dashboard Launcher is still transparent. How can I reset this??
 Translucency STUCK! I have been trying to theme Plasma on a new machine. I replicated the theme on another - but transparency is over the top. It stays transparent on other themes also.  This resolves much of the issues - but Application Dashboard Launcher is still transparent. How can I reset this??
[12:51] <BluesKaj> Hi all
 damnnnn !!!!  i was having too many issue with plasma 5.25, but,
 i wayland everything is working good ,
 all isue gone , but my window mager isn't workiin'
 neither espanso
 now i want to totally shift on wayland , what should i do ???
 i want to  use my espanso app.
 now i want to totally shift on wayland , what should i do ???
 i want to  use my espanso app.
 also latte dock not working
[15:52] <iomari891> greetings, clipboard widget's apply button stays greyed out.
[15:56] <myrti> Hi, I recently upgraded to kubuntu 22.04 and now my tlp settings seem to no longer be respected. In particular I'm trying to set a maximum battery charge of 80%, which seems to be recognized by the system but not applied. The power applet says the maximum charge should be 80% but the battery is always charged to 99%: https://i.imgur.com/kPclXhO.png
[15:58] <myrti> If I look at the tlp-stat it's a similar picture: https://pastebin.com/zbckhefk
[16:08] <Blohsh> hi does kubuntu support realtek 8821CE by default?
[16:41] <arraybolt3> Blohsh: Not sure, lemme look.
[16:42] <arraybolt3> Blohsh: It probably won't work out of the box, however the driver for it is in Ubuntu's repositories.
[16:42] <Blohsh> my laptop does not have ethernet port thats another prob
[16:42] <arraybolt3> Blohsh: Basically what that means is, install Kubuntu, connect it to the Internet without WiFi (you can use a phone hotspot for this), then run "sudo apt install rtl8821ce-dkms".
[16:43] <arraybolt3> Blohsh: Hmm... ok that may be a problem.
[16:43] <arraybolt3> Are you able to tether to your phone over USB?
[16:44] <arraybolt3> Blohsh: If you can't, I can send you a download link to the driver and you can try and install it manually.
[16:45] <arraybolt3> Blohsh: Also what version of Kubuntu are you trying to install?
[16:47] <arraybolt3> Blohsh: If you're using Kubuntu 22.04 (Jammy), here's the driver: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rtl8821ce/<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu10/+build/23538768/+files/rtl8821ce-dkms_<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu10_all.deb
[17:40] <Blohsh> arraybolt3, thank you i'll test when i get on system :)
[17:41] <arraybolt3> Blohsh: Make sure to tell it to install proprietary drivers during installation so that DKMS hopefully gets installed, that's important for that driver to work.
[17:42] <Blohsh> noted
 Thanks for accepting me
 Can't Install fruity loops/software.exe in kubuntu?
 Help out
[19:10] <xillo> хорошшшо
 What version of FL were you trying to install? (re @Thekgo: Help out)
[20:27] <Betablockr> Hi, is Kubuntu updated the same time as normal Ubuntu is? for example when the next feature release or LTS release comes out does Kubuntu get it the same day?
[20:27] <mmikowski> Betablockr: usually yes
[20:28] <Betablockr> When you say usually, has there been times in the past when this has not been the case?
[20:28] <mmikowski> Not that I can recall
[20:29] <Betablockr> So the main question, is it better the get Kubuntu or run Ubuntu with KDE manually installed?
[20:29] <mmikowski> Betablockr: the result is the same. both use ubuntu repos.
[20:29] <Betablockr> Ahh may as well main Kubuntu then! Perfect thank you so much!
[20:31] <Betablockr> Oh last thing! Is there a way to install the open-kernel nvidia 520 driver on Kubuntu?
[20:31] <Betablockr> So far I only see 515 in the list
[20:31] <mmikowski> Yes, apt install nvidia-drivers-520
[20:32] <Betablockr> Awesome, thank you!
[20:33] <mmikowski> you're welcome!
[21:11] <Blohsh> arraybolt3, are all drivers automatically installed from update center?
[22:10] <arraybolt3> Blohsh: Most of them, there are some drivers that need to be manually installed from the archive but almost all drivers Just Work out of the box.
[22:10] <arraybolt3> Once they're installed, though, they will automatically update.
[22:18] <Blohsh> arraybolt3, i have i7 10th gen from asus 14"
[22:18] <Blohsh> no idea if that will be compatible with kubuntu
[22:18] <Blohsh> but ill test out
 Latte Dock is falling apart at the edges. It no longer has a maintainer. 😞 (re @milesdredd08: now i want to totally shift on wayland , what should i do ???
 i want to  use my espanso app.
 also latte dock not working)
[22:27] <arraybolt3> Blohsh: Definitely worth a shot. Sounds to me like it should work.


[18:06] <Eickmeyer> @login
[21:59] <Unit193> !morehelp-#ubuntustudio is <reply> #ubuntustudio sometimes cannot answer your questions in a timely matter, or simply lacks the capacity. For additional sources of help, try #ubuntu if your issue is of a technical nature, or #lau (Linux Audio Users) or #opensourcemusicians if it has to do with the audio stack.
[22:06] <genii> TIL #opensourcemusicians exists
[22:28] <Eickmeyer> Unit193: You da bot! (I'd say "you da man", except I don't want to assume anything. :)
[22:29] <Unit193> Specifically, it's better to do it this way so that in #ubuntustudio you only have to call !morehelp
[22:29] <Eickmeyer> Oh, I agree 100%.