[00:00] <TiagoTiago> I want to have Ubuntu on a USB drive that i can use on "any" machine, do i need it to be the "livecd" or can i just do a normal instal and it will still not have issues booting on different machines?
[00:00] <dingoateyourbaby> TiagoTiago: My question takes precedence, please wait your turn
[00:00] <Claire> init 6 completey removed my ssh it seems
[00:00] <escott> !ops | dingoateyourbaby
[00:00] <dingoateyourbaby> !ops | escott
[00:00] <TheLordOfTime> Claire, init 6 is the reboot signal
[00:01] <WR47HANZ> le sigh
[00:01] <TheLordOfTime> Claire, it should reboot your system (if the system doesn't come back up you need to contact the datacenter, which is what i said you should've done initially)
[00:01] <escott> TiagoTiago, not all machines support usb boot. many do
[00:01] <Flannel> dingoateyourbaby: Please be courteous and polite.  Thanks.
[00:01] <TheLordOfTime> Claire, your system has to reboot :P
[00:01] <Ben64> TiagoTiago: it should not have any problems booting, but the video driver stuff might be weird
[00:01] <OerHeks> TiagoTiago, live cd is universal, if you install on an usb device, you might get trouble if the machines have different videocards and such
[00:01] <dingoateyourbaby> Flannel: I am. I am just waiting for a reply
[00:01] <TheLordOfTime> Claire, again, if it doesn't come back up and/or throws additional errors again, you'll need to have the hardware checked, and you'll need to contact the datacenter you're colocating at for that.
[00:02] <TiagoTiago> Is there a way to have the compatibility benefits of the livecd AND the full power of a normal install?
[00:02] <Flannel> dingoateyourbaby: Your topic is a great discussion topic, but not for this channel.  This channel is for technical support.  You should try #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic.  Those would be more appropriate.
[00:02] <dingoateyourbaby> !ops | please answer my question
[00:02] <TheLordOfTime> Claire, since you've said you don't have access (and you should), then the techs at the datacenter'll have to respond and check the system
[00:02] <escott> TiagoTiago, you would probably be ok if you installed a msdos partitioned bios boot system on a usb as an installed system for any computer built from 2007-2015
[00:02] <dingoateyourbaby> Flannel: how is it "off-topic"
[00:02] <TheLordOfTime> Claire, and that's not usually free
[00:03] <dingoateyourbaby> Compare my issue to TiagoTiago's.
[00:03]  * TheLordOfTime has colo'd a box before, and always makes sure he has access to the box when necessary
[00:03] <dingoateyourbaby> He's looking for something that's easily googable.
[00:03] <escott> TiagoTiago, but the full compatibility of the livecd is not something you can get from a real install
[00:03] <dr_willis> dingoateyourbaby:  its not support specific. we dont have insight to r4easons for  canoical doing stuff.. other then their blogs and other reports.
[00:03] <Ben64> TiagoTiago: if you don't need 3d acceleration, it should work on pretty much anything
[00:03] <TheLordOfTime> dr_willis, you were ninja'd ;P
[00:03] <Flannel> dingoateyourbaby: This is a support channel, for technical support questions.  Your question isn't a support question, but instead a discussion.  The people here aren't likely to be the same people you want answering your question anyway.
[00:04] <Claire> thank you i got to go
[00:04] <TiagoTiago> The livecd doesn't do 3d acceleration? Is that the only difference?
[00:04] <dr_willis> TiagoTiago:  it depends on your video hardware.
[00:04] <dingoateyourbaby> Flannel: it is a support question, I want to know who's bright idea was it for canonical not to support older 32-bit cpu hardware without pae. And was this decision due to conceit.
[00:04] <escott> TiagoTiago, no. the livecd has a fat partition and an ext4 casper image mounted as a loopback device
[00:04] <fizikz> hi there, i'm having trouble getting a live usb of ubuntu to boot on a macbook pro. is this the right place to get help?
[00:04] <dr_willis> dingoateyourbaby:  no its not s support question.
[00:04] <Flannel> dingoateyourbaby: No, it's not.  Please take it elsewhere.
[00:05] <escott> TiagoTiago, ie the livecd is VERY different from the early boot perspective
[00:05] <TiagoTiago> I see, hm...
[00:05] <dr_willis> Bottom line. manpower is limited. and the LTS release still supports non pae..
[00:06] <TiagoTiago> But regarding the system itself, after the machine is instructed to boot it, does it matter if it is the livecd image or an image from a regular install?
[00:06] <dingoateyourbaby> we can agree that a question is "an act or instance of asking" and that support is to mean "aid"
[00:06] <escott> TiagoTiago, for the most part no
[00:06] <escott> TiagoTiago, unless you have things configured for proprietary modules
[00:09] <TiagoTiago> To not hog you guys much, is there a tutorial i can follow to make a USB install that has both the compatibility benefits of the livecd and the full power of a regular install?
[00:09] <escott> Woogie, please don't do that
[00:09] <dr_willis> TiagoTiago:  i just do full installs..  you COULD do a full install and then make a grub entry to boot an iso file.
[00:09] <Woogie> sorry, must tweak my xchat.
[00:09] <dr_willis> that would be usefull trick
[00:10] <Jordan_U> TiagoTiago: The only benefit that I can think of to a liveCD is that it's compressed. You can do a normal install to a USB drive and boot it on many machines.
[00:11] <dr_willis> if you moved the usb around from differnt pcs' a live option may be nice.
[00:11] <escott> Jordan_U, my understanding is that some older bioses don't like to boot non-FAT formatted usbs
[00:11] <TiagoTiago> If i do that, what things will i not be able to do? (like, setup multiple monitors, 3d acceleration etc)
[00:12] <Jordan_U> escott: Older BIOSs shouldn't know anything about filesystems, and while it's possible (there are many odd firmware bugs out there) I've never encountered such hardware.
[00:13] <escott> Jordan_U, i guess i dont understand the rational for the casper image then. it would be trivial to just unpack the casper image or dd it directly to the disk
[00:13] <Altaires> Photorec did not recover the file I wanted, which was the last paper I was typing up before my computer blue screened. Is it safe to assume that my paper file is corrupt beyond recognition?
[00:13] <escott> Altaires, or that it is so scattered that photorec can't find it amongst the pieces
[00:13] <TiagoTiago> Or will it just revert to the basic most compatible settings when the hardware changes?
[00:14] <Altaires> escott: is there ANY way I can salvage it?
[00:14] <Jordan_U> escott: Do you mean the squashfs image?
[00:14] <escott> Jordan_U, yes
[00:15] <Ben64> Altaires: what file system
[00:15] <Altaires> Ben64: Win 7
[00:15] <Ben64> thats an operating system :|
[00:15] <escott> Altaires, there is testdisk you could try that. but this being an ubuntu channel not a lot we can advise wrt windows
[00:16] <Jordan_U> escott: Squashfs is a read only compressed file system, by using it they can fit what installs to about 2 GiB in less than 700 MiB (which was even more important when they were still trying to keep media at a size that it could be burned to a CD).
[00:16] <Jordan_U> escott: Squashfs isn't used for normal installations because it's read-only.
[00:16] <Altaires> escott: thanks, I used test disk to find the hidden partition already. I don't think it would be better than photorec to actually recover the files however. It's more of a fix and find kind of tool.
[00:16] <Ben64> Altaires: you could try Recuva, I've had success with it where I couldn't with photorec
[00:17] <escott> Jordan_U, i guess i never realized how well that casper image packed down
[00:17] <fizikz> i'm trying to boot a live usb of ubuntu 12.04.1 on a macbook pro using grub-efi. i get to the grub menu, but when i try to boot ubuntu it freezes on the following:
[00:17] <fizikz> RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM dsik image starting at 0. No filesystem could mount root, tried: ext3 ext4 fuseblk
[00:17] <fizikz> Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(1,0)
[00:18] <WR47HANZ> escott you still around?
[00:18] <WR47HANZ> http://imgur.com/EVVOy I took a screenshot of what the screen looks like
[00:18] <zoidberg-> Does anyone have a fix for the issue that when using ssh keys to login to a remote ubuntu box (that has an encrypted home directory) the home drive is not mounted, i have to manually mount it by doing ecryptfs-mount-private, i then have to source my .bash_profile.. I managed to get ssh/keys working by moving the authorized_keys file to somewhere outside my home dir, now i would like the home directory mounted upon logging
[00:18] <WR47HANZ> the installer shows up fine, but after installation and I reboot the computer that is what the display looks like
[00:19] <escott> WR47HANZ, what kind of graphics card was this? perhaps i lost your response when the dingbat came into channel
[00:19] <WR47HANZ> nvidia gtx 560ti
[00:19] <escott> zoidberg-, modify /etc/ssh/config to look for the auth key somewhere outside of $HOME
[00:19] <Jordan_U> fizikz: How did you setup this LiveUSB?
[00:20] <zoidberg-> escott: That problem was fixed earlier.. i've done that, it is now not mounting my homedirectory..
[00:20] <zoidberg-> so i manually have to mount it, then source my bash_prfile which is a right pain.
[00:20] <zoidberg-> I was wondering if there was a fix for that
[00:21] <fizikz> i formatted the usb flash drive as FAT, copied onto it the /efi and /efi/boot directories containing the bootx64.efi file and a grub.cfg, and the iso of the ubuntu desktop edition is in the root directory
[00:21] <escott> zoidberg-, you could try adding that mount command to your auth_keys file before running the bash commmand
[00:21] <escott> zoidberg-, honestly for a server i would disable encrypted home
[00:22] <bobdin> hi everybody
[00:22] <zoidberg-> escott: Yeah, I am regretting setting it, is there a way to disable it without re-installing?
[00:23] <escott> zoidberg-, copy the plaintext out to another directory, change your home, verify it works, remove the old home
[00:23] <escott> zoidberg-, rather umount, remove the old home (including the ciphertext in $OLDHOME/.Private)
[00:23] <Jordan_U> fizikz: That grub.cfg was not designed for loop booting, which is what you're doing by keeping the iso file as an iso file. Create a grub.cfg following the template here: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/Loopback.cfg#How_do_you_use_a_loopback.cfg_to_boot_an_iso.3F
[00:23] <zoidberg-> hrm
[00:24] <zoidberg-> probably easier to re-install not entirley sur ewhat you mean
[00:24] <zoidberg-> why add something that breaks soemthing so fundamental
[00:24] <zoidberg-> :(
[00:24] <Dark_Haseo> does a single "home" directory works for varius linux distros if it is in a diferent partition?
[00:24] <escott> zoidberg-, encrypted home mounts the ciphertext in ~/.Private over ~ using ecryptfs which is a FUSE filesystem
[00:25] <escott> Dark_Haseo, not the best idea. different versions of desktop software may have conflicting config options
[00:25] <zoidberg-> meh im going to reinstall thanks for your help
[00:26] <escott> Dark_Haseo, you can share a single /home partition and have inside if username_ubuntu and username_fedora with symlinks to a shared username_data for all the subdirs
[00:26] <Dark_Haseo> ok thx escott
[00:26] <fizikz> the relevant bit in grub.cfg (latest iteration so far..) is:
[00:26] <fizikz> menuentry "Ubuntu (Macbook1,1)" {
[00:26] <fizikz>  search --no-floppy --set -f /boot.iso
[00:26] <fizikz>  loopback loop /boot.iso
[00:26] <fizikz>  linux (loop)/casper/vmlinuz boot=casper iso-scan/filename=/boot.iso video=efifb fbdev noefi --
[00:26] <fizikz>  initrd (loop)/casper/initrd.lz
[00:26] <fizikz> }
[00:26] <FloodBot1> fizikz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:26] <Dark_Haseo> can i install ubuntu on a usb ?(not live)
[00:27] <TiagoTiago> What do i loose, and what do i need to be aware of, if i install  Ubuntu on a pendrive to use on different machines, instead of just going the liveCD/USB route?
[00:27] <escott> Dark_Haseo, yes
[00:27] <Dark_Haseo> any recomended size?
[00:28] <escott> Dark_Haseo, the base system is usually on the order of 10-20GB
[00:29] <Jordan_U> fizikz: Try following the template that I linked to (and next time please use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com for anything over one line).
[00:29] <fizikz> ok sorry about that
[00:30] <TiagoTiago> And is there a variant or distro that by default uses a flash friendly file system?
[00:31] <escott> TiagoTiago, i never really get the "flash friendly" bit. there is potentially faster if it is a CoW filesystem and the block size matches the underlying blocks, but that doesn't make it any friendlier
[00:31] <diverdude> Hello. i am trying to change the dns i am using. i have changed /etc/resolv.conf to have nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>, but whenever i restart it has been changed back to nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>. How do i change it for good and how do i ensure that its actually <IP_ADDRESS> which is being used?
[00:32] <TiagoTiago> I mean a file system that was designed to reduce the wear on flash storage
[00:32] <Jordan_U> TiagoTiago: ext4 is flash friendly enough. For the small writes done for journaling to decrease the life of the drive the wear leveling in the drive would have to be terrible.
[00:33] <TiagoTiago> I see
[00:33] <escott> TiagoTiago, a write is a write. the only way to reduce the wear level is to write less. the firmware will amplify the writes anyways
[00:34] <bitsavage> ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
[00:34] <bitsavage> oooops
[00:34] <Jordan_U> diverdude: Change the setting in network manager.
[00:40] <TiagoTiago> I have to go now :(
[00:40] <TiagoTiago> Thanx for everything, cya
[00:43] <dr_willis>  trying to track down why i got some very slow usb hd transfer speeds on my Ubuntu box. Could it be I grabbed some USB1 Cables and using them on usb2 ports is slowing them down?
[00:43] <escott> dr_willis, if they were longer cheaper cables sure
[00:46] <konam> hi guys
[00:46] <limac> hi i installed centos and i installed its bootloader and added ubuntu to the bootloader options (during centos installtion) but now when I try to boot from ubuntu, I get Error 13: invalid or unsupported exec. format
[00:46] <limac> how might I fix that?
[00:47] <rex> i am unable to stream files through plex server/
[00:47] <konam> there is a package, i don't remember the name but after you install that one a lot of icons appear next to the text in a lot of menus
[00:47] <jrf012126> any dns gurus?
[00:47] <konam> can't remember the name now, but i installed it because a script required it
[00:47] <konam> but i also don't remember the name of the script now :s
[00:48] <konam> for example, right now the bookmarks of firefox don't show a folder next to a bookmark folder, after installing that package a folder will appear next to them
[00:51] <Jordan_U> limac: I would let Ubuntu control the bootloader rather than CENTOS. You can re-install Ubuntu's grub from either CENTOS or an Ubuntu (or other) LiveCD by following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[00:53] <limac> thank you Jordan_U for that!
[00:54] <Jordan_U> limac: You're welcome.
[00:54] <ForSpareParts> I just installed awesome under 12.10 and launched a session, and everything's fullscreen, regardless of my tiling mode. Any idea why?
[00:54] <konam> ok, it was just a matter of enabling the 'menus have icons' on ubuntu tweak
[00:54] <sushubin> hello, i am using the 12.04 LTS, but when i run the music player "audacious" to add files in the folder, I computer get crashed and cannot do anything except moving the mouse!
[00:56] <XxXxX> Hey I have x window forwarding, I want to know if its possible to use screen on an xwindow so I can detach + reattach it ?
[00:57] <escott> XxXxX, not exactly. what do you mean by forwarding?
[00:58] <XxXxX> escott, ok so i have a strange setup
[00:58] <fizikz> Jordan_U: i copied the template you referenced (substituting the TITLE and PATH bits) as an entry into my existing grub.cfg . when i selected the entry, it froze on a blank screen, perhaps due to video issues. from the ubuntu mac forum, people indicated that they needed to add "video=efifb" and "noefi" options to the "linux" line in grub.cfg. how can i incorporate them into the template?
[00:59] <dr_willis> XxXxX:  dosent work that way. screen would work for terminal/cli apps.. but not X apps. There were at one time some apps/tricks to detach/reattatch X apps.. but ive not seen those in years. You Could have a small vnc session for specific apps if you wanted
[00:59] <XxXxX> escott, I have ubuntu, with ssh + x forwarding, and I do stuff on my other computer (windows) but right now im running a windows VM (vmplayer) on the ubuntu machine I want to be able to control it from windows w/ x forwarding (thats working fine) I can even run the app in screen but Idk how to detach + reattach it so if I shut down the windows pc
[01:00] <dr_willis> XxXxX:  you could have a hidden vnc desktop you could detatch/reattatch to
[01:00] <XxXxX> how do I do that ?
[01:00] <escott> XxXxX, so there is an X migration but its not well supported. what you can do is run gui programs in an xnest session or through freenx's virtual x server
[01:00] <dr_willis> install a vncserver, start it.. connect to it with a vnc client. run whatever apps you want. it will stay there even after you detatch the client
[01:00] <dr_willis> FreeNX is simniler but ive never gotten freenx working well
[01:01] <XxXxX> escott, well what is my best option vnc or that ?
[01:01] <dr_willis> vnc works - but freenx may give better preformance.,but may be harder to setup.
[01:01] <escott> XxXxX, its all basically the same idea just different protocols. vnc/freenx/xnest all create hidden virtual x servers and run the gui programs through those
[01:03] <XxXxX> escott, ok, so if you were me which one do you do
[01:03] <escott> XxXxX, never used any of them can't recommend one in particular
[01:03] <Jordan_U> fizikz: Unfortunately you can't add kernel parameters when using a loopback.cfg entry. I would recommend though that you look at the entry in /boot/grub/loopback.cfg (in the iso) as a beginning for what other kernel parameters should be passed and add to that.
[01:03] <XxXxX> escott, ive used vnc in the past
[01:03] <Jordan_U> fizikz: Are you booting 64 bit Ubuntu?
[01:03] <escott> XxXxX, vnc/nx are easier to setup than xnest
[01:03] <fizikz> yes
[01:04] <Altaires> Can you read windows 7 bsod .dmp files in ubuntu?
[01:04] <magn3ts> ... How can the deluge package not been updated to properly depend on python-libtorrent?
[01:05] <XxXxX> escott, so if I install vnc server on the ubuntu box, I can simply vnc in load vmware and vnc out and it will keep running ?
[01:05] <dr_willis> XxXxX:  if you run a seperate vnc session, yes.  it will keep running even with no clients attatched.
[01:05] <escott> XxXxX, should work. what i dont get is why vmware doesn't support detaching natively
[01:06] <dr_willis> XxXxX:  this is nto the same as how Gnome with vino does it.
[01:06] <limac> Jordan_U: in that link, for step 6, what do they mean by: "Only if you have a separate boot partition..."?
[01:06] <XxXxX> dr_willis, any link on how to set up a 'seperate' vnc session ?
[01:06] <dr_willis> XxXxX:  install a vncserver, and run it.
[01:06] <XxXxX> escott, dr_willis also is the vnc server I want x11vnc ?
[01:07] <dr_willis> Gnomes 'shared desktop' is not quite the same.
[01:07] <dr_willis> x11vnc and vino share the CURRENT desktop.. thats the BIG differance
[01:07] <dr_willis> vncserver can be ran and have no visible display. untill you connect to it with a vnc client
[01:07] <XxXxX> sharing the current display is fine
[01:08] <dr_willis> tightvncserver and vnc4server are the 2 common vncservers
[01:08] <dr_willis> XxXxX:  you have to be logged in first to get that mode to work..  and you cant log out.. vnc4server could run  with a headless display or just by sshing in. or you can have several differnt vnc sessions.
[01:08] <dr_willis> current display = use the gnome shared desktop feature.
[01:09] <XxXxX> im getting more confused by the second honestly
[01:09] <dr_willis> hidden persistant desktop = use a seperate vncserver
[01:09] <XxXxX> so how do I set up a seperate one!?
[01:09] <XxXxX> export the $DISPLAY variable ?
[01:09] <dr_willis> you install a 'vncserver' like tightvnc, or vnc4server
[01:09] <XxXxX> k i did that
[01:10] <dr_willis> ssh in, run vncserver, connect with a client.
[01:10] <XxXxX> k
[01:10] <dr_willis> the 'shareed current desktop' is a special case of vnc ussage. and untill recently was not common on linux. ;) on windows its the ONLY way vnc works..
[01:11] <dr_willis> this confuses people. they think its  the only way vnc works. ;)
[01:11] <limac> what is meant here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot in step 6, when it says "Only if you have a separate boot partition..."
[01:11] <escott> XxXxX, are you sure that vmware whatever doesnt support session detach?
[01:11] <dr_willis> limac:  you can have /boot/ on its own partition.  ie: sda1 is /boot/ and the rest of / is on sda2
[01:11] <dr_willis> escott:  i thought it did. ;) but i dont use vmware
[01:11] <XxXxX> escott, vmware player idk
[01:12] <XxXxX> do I need to run the vnc server as root if i need root permissions on the vmware player ?
[01:12] <Altaires> Can you read Win 7 BSOD dump files with an Ubuntu Live CD?
[01:12] <escott> XxXxX, if this is the free player maybe, but if i paid for a virtualization solution and it was unable to detach from my session i'd be rather angry
[01:12] <dr_willis> XxXxX:  the vncserver will be showing a desktop. you use it as you would any other desktop. no need to run the server as root.
[01:12] <XxXxX> escott, free ;-p
[01:12] <limac> ok thx dr_willis
[01:12] <escott> XxXxX, you could still ask for your money back ;)
[01:12] <dr_willis> its best to use a light/minimal window manager in vnc. it can get laggy. openbox would work fine.
[01:13] <XxXxX> escott, dr_willis so Im getting a connection refused ?
[01:13] <XxXxX> this is over lan btw...
[01:13] <fizikz> Jordan_U: yes, i am booting a 64 bit iso. are there differences between 32 vs 64 bit to be aware of for the live usb booting processes? the entry i copied went into /efi/boot/grub.cfg. this refers to the loopback.cfg in the iso which has some kernel parameters, but not the ones needed for a mac. the procedure i followed and the grub.conf i had made is based on this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11637610&postcount=34
[01:13] <dr_willis> look at your vnc logs in the .vnc dir.
[01:13] <dr_willis> XxXxX:  you did start a vncserver?
[01:13] <XxXxX> dr_willis, yes
[01:14] <dr_willis> it said vncdesktop running on    <IP_ADDRESS>:6669  or some ip/port ?
[01:14] <limac> I am getting an error "mount: special device /run does not exist" any suggestions how to fix that?
[01:15] <XxXxX> dr_willis, I was able to log in with Media:1 just not the ip
[01:15] <XxXxX> now it says gnome session not found
[01:15] <XxXxX> im using xfce
[01:15] <dr_willis> XxXxX:  i always use the ip. ;)
[01:15] <dr_willis> edit your .vnc/xstartup to run what window manager you want. kill/restart the vncserver
[01:16] <XxXxX> dr_willis, it wouldn't work witrh the ip for some reason
[01:16] <dr_willis> my normap vnc xstartup is like 2 lines.......    xterm &     then exec openbox
[01:16] <dr_willis> about as minimal as it gets. ;)
[01:17] <XxXxX> dr_willis, mine says /etc/X11/Xsession
[01:17] <dr_willis> the default xstartup i think tries to run your normal desktop or other things. I want total controll.
[01:17] <XxXxX> i don't have an /etc/X11/Xsession
[01:17] <dr_willis> so i make it run EXACTLY what i want
[01:17] <XxXxX> do I just do exec xfce ?
[01:18] <dr_willis> i would run just a terminal, and a window manager to start.
[01:18] <dr_willis> the terminal in case the wm fails to startup.
[01:18] <XxXxX> yea idk how to get xfce to start
[01:18] <XxXxX> just put exec xfce in ~/.vnc/xstartup ?
[01:18] <dr_willis> perhaps 3 lines..     xterm &      exec windowmanager    then perhaps a exec xterm     after that.. in case the wm fails.
[01:18] <dr_willis> I dont know what commands start xfce
[01:18] <XxXxX> k
[01:19] <dr_willis> a full xfce desktop may be a bit heavy for vnc
[01:19] <Sach> Does anyone use pdfsam on ubuntu?
[01:21] <XxXxX> dr_willis, guess this is over my head
[01:22] <XxXxX> dr_willis, getting this... _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed
[01:22] <XxXxX> _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running
[01:22] <XxXxX> Fatal server error:
[01:22] <XxXxX> Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't already running
[01:22] <dr_willis> you did close/kill the other vncservers?
[01:23] <dr_willis> cnxserver --kill :1 (i think)
[01:23] <dr_willis> vncserver --kill :1 (i think)
[01:23] <galaxina> for usb external sound, are there any prefered chipsets, or will any old generic unmarked item do just as well?
[01:23] <dr_willis> galaxina:  better to do some reasearch and find stuff thats known to work
[01:23] <kevinch> hi, I have an ubuntu server, and I'd like a solution to backup a mac and a win7 pc to one of its drives over the network incrementally that's easy to use.  Any suggestions?
[01:24] <XxXxX> dr_willis, x@Media:~$ vncserver --kill :1
[01:24] <XxXxX> Couldn't start Xtightvnc; trying default font path.
[01:24] <XxXxX> Please set correct fontPath in the vncserver script.
[01:24] <XxXxX> Couldn't start Xtightvnc process.
[01:26] <dr_willis> check vncserver man page.. it may be -kill or the # may be differnt
[01:26] <escott> kevinch, i think your "easy to use" is making it harder than it is
[01:26] <dr_willis> vncserver -kill :1   worked here
[01:27] <dr_willis> note the single dash
[01:27] <kevinch> okay how about has a webgui instead
[01:27] <dr_willis> !ebox | kevinch
[01:27] <escott> kevinch, again i think that makes it harder than it is. what would the webgui do
[01:27] <kevinch> yeah nvm
[01:27] <dr_willis> kevinch:   with backups its all about the details of what you are doing and how much data and how often.
[01:27] <kevinch> just easy to setup
[01:27] <dr_willis> unison may have a port for all 3 os;s
[01:27] <dr_willis> !info unison
[01:28] <XxXxX> dr_willis, damnit the kill command worked, but it still says its already running same error as before
[01:28] <kevinch> I tried setting up backuppc and had some difficulties, could never get it working dr_willis
[01:28] <dr_willis> XxXxX:  check your ps output - kill all teh vncservers, then clean out the pid files in .vnc   and then try again and check the logs
[01:28] <Jordan_U> fizikz: Unlike with BIOS based booting, with [U]EFI based booting the kernel needs to match the architecute of the boot firmware, or it won't be able to use [U]EFI services, some of which are important for graphics.
[01:28] <dr_willis> XxXxX:  it may be the pid files.. each time vncserver runs it can start a NEW seperate session
[01:29] <XxXxX> dr_willis, no pid files in ~/.vnc
[01:29] <XxXxX> dr_willis, nothing running with vnc in name using ps -ef | grep vnc
[01:29] <Jordan_U> limac: What command did you run that gave that error message?
[01:31] <galaxina> dr_willis, the majority of cheap usb sound interfaces never say what chipsets they use and when there's a brand name it's usually meaningless
[01:31] <fizikz> Jordan_U: i wonder if the 'fakebios' entry in the grub.conf in post i sent before has something to do with that. i'm really just stabbing in the dark here. however, that grub.cfg did work for the poster, so i wonder what i need to do to get it working for me
[01:32] <Jordan_U> fizikz: Did that poster have exactly the same hardware as you?
[01:32] <XxXxX> dr_willis, google is my friend, had to do vncserver :1
[01:32] <dr_willis> XxXxX:  so whats your exact xstartup file look like? and whats the exact erorr message
[01:32] <XxXxX> all working now!
[01:32] <XxXxX> dr_willis, btw xfce is /usr/bin/startxfce4
[01:33] <fizikz> Jordan_U: the hardware is the same as the one i intend to run the live usb on. the current hardware i have to test with is a bit newer.
[01:33] <dr_willis> I dont plan on using xfce any time soon. ;P
[01:33] <kevinch> dr_willis any backup solutions pop into your head?  don't really care about webgui as long as it won't take days to try and setup to do xplatform
[01:33] <XxXxX> dr_willis, xfce is awesome
[01:33] <XxXxX> dr_willis, so I can close the vnc viewer and it will stay the way it is right ?
[01:33] <dr_willis> kevinch:  i just pop in a external usb hd.. and do it the old fashioned way
[01:33] <dr_willis> XxXxX:  it should
[01:33] <kevinch> ah ok
[01:34] <dr_willis> XxXxX:  you could caonnect with differnt vnc viewers from differnt machines also
[01:34] <Jordan_U> fizikz: The problems you're having are very hardware specific, what will work on one machine is likely to fail on another and visa-versa, especially with the combinations of linux-unfriendly hardware found in macs.
[01:34] <dr_willis> XxXxX:  have fun. ;)
[01:35] <XxXxX> dr_willis, I always do once I get something to work
[01:35] <XxXxX> dr_willis, escott thx so much
[01:36] <galaxina> for some reason, xfce is depressing to look at
[01:37] <fizikz> Jordan_U: do you have a clue as to the cause of the kernel panic error? what confuses me further is that the poster's solution doesn't involve loopback.cfg as you mentioned
[01:37] <Sach> how do i install java from terminal?
[01:38] <TheLordOfTime> Sach, sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre
[01:38] <TheLordOfTime> Sach, if you need the JDK, then sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk
[01:40] <Sach> TheLordOfTime: I'm trying t install a .exe file, which says I need to install a Java Runtime Environment
[01:40] <TheLordOfTime> Sach, um... a .exe is a windows executable
[01:40] <TheLordOfTime> not an Ubuntu executable
[01:40] <Sach> TheLordOfTime: yes, I know.  I'm using Wine
[01:40] <TheLordOfTime> Sach, you'd need to download and install the Windows version of Oracle Java
[01:40] <TheLordOfTime> and that i dont think you can do via command line
[01:41] <TheLordOfTime> nor do i think it'll be 100% stable
[01:42] <Sach> TheLordOfTime: do you know how I install a windoes version f oracle java?
[01:42] <galaxina> wine?
[01:42] <TheLordOfTime> Sach, should be obvious if you've used windows, go to java.com and find the correct installer, download it, run it.
[01:42] <Jordan_U> fizikz: That kernel panic appears to be caused by the init scripts not being able to find the partition containing the iso, though I don't understand why it's a kernel panic rather than dropping you to an initramfs shell. It might be that the kernel for some reason (like bad drivers) can't access the USB drive.
[01:42] <Chath> What would be the best shell to use with compiz at the moment? It's almost but not quite perfect with gnome fallback
[01:43] <fizikz> Jordan_U: is there something i can do to narrow down the problem?
[01:43] <TheLordOfTime> Sach, http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
[01:43] <TheLordOfTime> Sach, download the Windows Offline insttaller for the architecture you're on (32-bit or 64-bit)
[01:43] <Jordan_U> fizikz: There are two reasons that the poster probably didn't use the loopback.cfg method, first because it's not well known, and second because they wanted to add additional kernel parmaters.
[01:44] <Chath> Only problem I'm getting is compiz isn't using the virtual desktops the gnome is showing
[01:45] <Jordan_U> fizikz: Try booting from the netinstall kernel and initrd, from there you'll have a very minimal system even if the kernel doesn't have the needed USB drivers. But ideally you want to be debugging problems on the hardware you're actually going to try to install Ubuntu to.
[01:46] <fizikz> Jordan_U: unfortunately i don't have access to the actual hardware it's meant to run on. that is 3000km away... how do i boot the netinstall kernel and initrd?
[01:50] <Jordan_U> fizikz: Actually, before that I would recommend trying an Ubuntu 12.10 64 bit iso, using the loopback.cfg method. [U]EFI support is under heavy development and many improvements were made between 12.04 and 12.10.
[01:51] <ouyes> After a fresh installation of UBUNTU 12.10 amd64, the system can't detect the wired ethernet, so I install the compatiable wireless driver ( as the google search results) and both the wired and wireless works, but new problem comes, the led of my wireless doesn't light up
[01:51] <ouyes> do you have any ideas?
[01:53] <Jordan_U> fizikz: If you want to try the netinstall kernel and initrd, grab them from the minimal iso and (at least at first) try loading them with *no* kernel paremeters, just "linux /path/to/linux; initrd /path/to/initrd.gz".
[01:54] <fizikz> Jordan_U: ok, i'm downloading it and i'll give it a try. thanks for the ideas.
[01:54] <Jordan_U> !minimal | fizikz
[01:54] <Jordan_U> fizikz: You're welcome.
[01:55] <ouyes> any good calculator in ubuntu ?
[01:55] <fizikz> Jordan_U: ok, i'll try the minimal iso and no kernel parameters too
[01:57] <albertcamus> irc.snoonet.com
[01:57] <Jordan_U> ouyes: The default GNOME Calculator is quite nice, as is "bc" which also comes by default (on the other end of the spectrum). What type of calculator are you looking for?
[01:58] <ouyes> Jordan_U, do you remember the ubuntu 10.04 's calculator, you can choose advanced function like programming scientific
[01:59] <ouyes> Jordan_U, the default calculator of ubuntu 12.10 is too small
[01:59] <Jordan_U> ouyes: GNOME Calculator still has scientific and programming modes, you can switch to them from the "Mode" menu.
[02:00] <dodo3773> ouyes: gcalctool has scientific
[02:00] <ouyes> Jordan_U, where is the Mode menu
[02:02] <fizikz> Jordan_U: do you mean i should try the netinstall idea with the loopback.cfg template entry in grub.cfg, or the entries similar to the poster's grub.cfg (minus any kernel parameters)?
[02:03] <mikodo> So, you old-time gurus here. Where did you get your knowledge? IT tech, Comp science, Self taught What? My self teaching with my casual usage is too slow!!
[02:03] <dodo3773> mikodo: Google + diy ditros
[02:04] <mikodo> dodo3773, Whats diy
[02:04] <Jordan_U> mikodo: That's a question for #ubuntu-offtopic.
[02:04] <dodo3773> mikodo: do it yourself
[02:04] <mikodo> dodo3773, cool
[02:04] <dodo3773> mikodo: Jordan_U is right though. It is pretty offtopic
[02:05] <mikodo> dodo3773, OK #ubuntu-offtopic it is Thx.
[02:06] <dodo3773> mikodo: I am there.
[02:07] <escott> ouyes, or just install octave
[02:09] <Jordan_U> ouyes: In Ubuntu 12.04, at the top of the window. In Ubuntu 12.10 there is no separate Mode menu, you just select the mode from the "Calculator" drop down menu at the top of the screen.
[02:10] <Jordan_U> fizikz: The mini.iso doesn't have a loopback.cfg, so you can't use the loopback.cfg template with it. For mini.iso you could use an entry like this: menuentry "Mini (netboot) iso" { search --set=root --file /mini.iso; loopback loop /mini.iso; root=(loop); linux /linux; initrd initrd.gz; }
[02:10] <WXZ> why doesn't compiz grid properly resize virtualbox?
[02:15] <Jordan_U> fizikz: The full entry, with newlines rather than ';', would be http://paste.debian.net/plain/216687
[02:16] <Jordan_U> fizikz: And that assumes that you put the mini.iso in the root of the filesystem, named 'mini.iso'. (I mentioned extracting the kernel and initrd from the iso earlier, but this example doesn't require you to do that).
[02:18] <fizikz> Jordan_U: thank you. about the "linux /linux" part, it is not needed to have it prepended by "(loop)" ?
[02:19] <blackshirt> hello
[02:19] <Salao82> hi
[02:19] <Jordan_U> fizikz: Correct, it is not. If you don't specify a device name as part of a path in grub it defaults to the value of $root, since we have "root=(loop)" "linux /linux" is exactly the same as "linux (loop)/linux".
[02:23] <wd_> hey ya'll, i've got a Brother QL-500 label printer... can anyone help me get it up and running?
[02:24] <Blake> I highlighted everything Photorec recovered (although it wasn't on when I woke in the morning to check it...) It only showed 48.9 gigs of info, but when I checked the disk 400 gigs of space had been taken up. What's up with that? Where can I find the rest of my 352 gigs of info?
[02:28] <escott> Blake, photorec never claims to be able to recover all or even a substantial fraction of your data
[02:30] <Blake> escott: well then why is there an extra 400 gigs of space taken up on the drive I recovered the data to?
[02:30] <garethp> So I find myself somewhat bored and I was wondering if anybody could point me in the direction of an entertaining IRC channel?
[02:31] <escott> Blake, are there any hidden files? there is a utility baobab that will analyze and identify where your disk usage is coming from
[02:31] <aprilhare> hello
[02:33] <Blake> Hidden files? From the original OS? No. I never hid any files there. I used disk usage analyzer after I saw ubuntu claiming all of the recovery folders I highlighted amassed to be 50 gigs. It showed an extra 400 gigs full on my 1 tb drive i had recovered the data too
[02:33] <Blake> to*
[02:33] <aprilhare> i am using ubuntu 12.04 and have a external mac formatted hard disk. it's a hfs+ (journaled) hard disk to be exact. it mounts read-write in ubuntu. isn't it supposed to not support journaling?
[02:34] <escott> Blake, filenames that begin with a "." are hidden by default
[02:36] <Blake> escott: does photorec automatically hide them during the recovery process? If so, where do I find the hidden files?
[02:36] <escott> aprilhare, (a) they are always working to enable rw with journaling so one day hopefully it just mounts rw (b) it can be forced to rw with journaling (the kernel warns against this) (c) there may be a userspace driver for HFS+ check the output of "mount" to see what driver you are using for the HFS
[02:37] <escott> Blake, i've never used photorec so i couldnt tell you. use baobab to figure out where the 400GB, just keep drilling down into the larger folders
[02:37] <aprilhare> escott: thanks for the info. how do i use the mount command to do that?
[02:37] <Blake> escott: thank you  I will try that
[02:38] <escott> aprilhare, "mount" and look for where your hfs+ partition is mounted. see if it says "fuse"
[02:38] <aprilhare> ok thanks
[02:40] <Henesy> alright so I have a pi running raspbian and a laptop running ubuntu, I have been trying to bridge them to share the wireless connection's internet on the laptop for awhile now and I have failed so far, ideas?
[02:40] <escott> Henesy, you mean bridging eth on the ubuntu
[02:41] <Henesy> ja
[02:41] <Henesy> eth0 to eth0
[02:42] <Henesy> well, eth1 has the wireless and eth0 is connected to the pi
[02:42] <escott> Henesy, have you tried a static ip for the rasberry
[02:42] <Henesy> mhm
[02:43] <dr_willis> so its ... pi --> wired --> ubuntu --> Internet
[02:43] <Henesy> ja
[02:43] <dr_willis> so its ... pi --> wired --> ubuntu - wireless -> Internet
[02:43] <dr_willis> ;)
[02:43] <Henesy> :D
[02:43] <dr_willis> the pi can ping the ubuntu box and visa versa?
[02:43] <escott> Henesy, i wonder if you can even do that. the encrypted packets over the wireless are they fixed to the MAC address of the receiver
[02:44] <dr_willis> Ip masquerading - can do it. also called 'NAT'  i belive
[02:44] <Henesy> not sure how you want me to ping the pi/vice versa without an ip to look at
[02:44] <dr_willis> done it years ago.. only was going pc1 wired -> pc -> dialup
[02:44] <dr_willis> you may want to put a dhcp server on the ubuntu box.
[02:44] <fizikz> Jordan_U: tested the netinstall mini.iso and the Ubuntu 12.10 64bit iso. in both cases the screen froze immediately after selecting the entry for it in grub. it seems to me whether using the loopback.cfg or not, without the kernel parameters, it gets nowhere.
[02:45] <dr_willis> that way the pi gets an ip and other info
[02:45] <dr_willis> or else you will need to setup static ips
[02:45] <dr_willis> !ics
[02:47] <KI4RO> Can't seem to get restart to work.  I've changed grub and even wiped out the old one and reinstalled but it still doesn't restart; just gets to a certain spot and the screen goes black and that's the end
[02:48] <Blake> Then perhaps it's a miscaliber of Ubuntu's highlight/data size counting algorithm, because baobab is showing the document which contains all of my recovered data as being where the 400 gigs are.
[02:48] <Blake> escott
[02:48] <Sigis> Hey
[02:48] <escott> Henesy, you might ask in ##networking if this can be done without NAT
[02:48] <Henesy> thanks all
[02:49] <escott> Blake, again you only highlight visible files so something hidden could be very large
[02:49] <Sigis> I am having a problem installing ubuntu 12.10 from usb...if anyone could possibly assist me?
[02:49] <escott> Blake, there are a host of other reasons why computations of file size can be off. as filesystems have gotten smarter the "size" of a file is a much more qualitative vs quantitative art
[02:50] <znusgy> hello -- i've just come back to my computer after two weeks and grub freezes after showing its menu, the countdown stopping at 8s or 9s -- any ideas?
[02:51] <Sigis> I am getting the error ubi-Language failed with exit-code 1 ... any ideas?
[02:51] <Sigis> I had gotten it earlier and selected continue, so now my grub isn't loading any more as the installation hung after completing the copy of the files...
[02:55] <xui23> does anybody know how i can test h.264 with an intel hd 3000 graphics card? how would i know it is working
[02:56] <distopic_coll> am i here?
[02:56] <lynx7os5> hey all, i have a box running lucid (10.04 i think?), not sure what happened to it but the sound doesnt work anymore, any suggestions by chance?
[02:57] <xui23> lynx7os5: get a usb sound card; thinkpenguin.com
[02:57] <lynx7os5> lspci -v gives this: Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
[02:57] <almoxarife> xui23: play this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiKIZ0zdDuo
[02:57] <Slagwag> hey peeps
[02:57] <Slagwag> anyone use spidertools training videos?
[02:57] <escott> lynx7os5, laptop?
[02:57] <konam> where do i change the color of the highlighter (the one that appears on the menus when you hover over them) in ubuntu 12.10?
[02:58] <schnoodles-e> Anyone know of any good password storing tools for Linux kind of like 1password ?
[02:58] <lynx7os5> sound prefferences dont even show any hardware either
[02:58] <lynx7os5> escott: yea, it is
[02:58] <escott> schnoodles-e, seahorse
[02:58] <distopic_coll> try running alsamixer in a term it will tell you about your hardware setup
[02:59] <distopic_coll> card chip/codec etc
[02:59] <xui23> almoxarife: do you know how i can tell if it is graphic accelerated or cpu accelerated though?
[02:59] <lynx7os5> Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP65 High Definition Audio (rev a1) if this help
[02:59] <Slagwag> schnoodles-e - i just stick to lastpass but that mainly is for browsers
[02:59] <Slagwag> runs on linux distros though
[02:59] <schnoodles-e> Yeah mine is mainly for browsers
[02:59] <almoxarife> xui23: what are you using to play the vid?
[03:00] <escott> lynx7os5, lots of laptops ship with intel HDA but they all have different pin complexes (what is wired to what) so its possible that sound is being output to something like the headphone jack or maybe a non-existent digital output jack.
[03:00] <lynx7os5> i tried alsmixer, nothing happens.. alsamixer
[03:00] <lynx7os5> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[03:00] <xui23> alomoxarife: well, vlc, or adobe flash would be good
[03:00] <escott> lynx7os5, there is a good tutorial on debugging intel hda on the alsa website
[03:00] <almoxarife> xui23: specifically what did you use to play the link?
[03:01] <xui23> almoxarife: firefox on ubuntu 12.04 with adobe flash plug-in installed
[03:01] <lynx7os5> escott: mkk, thanks, ill check
[03:01] <xui23> (adobe flash <IP_ADDRESS>8)
[03:01] <almoxarife> xui23: then run firefox from terminal, look for the output when the vid starts
[03:02] <almoxarife> xui23: terminal output that is
[03:02] <lynx7os5> oh also, since im here, how or where can i go into the kernel: i mean.. like menuconfiig?
[03:03] <deper29> lynx7os5: cd /usr/src/linux/ and you should be able to 'make menuconfig' in there
[03:03] <distopic_coll> hi dakotawulfy
[03:03] <xui23> almoxarife: i don't see anything in the terminal after running it
[03:04] <almoxarife> xui23: does firefox have debug mode, otherwise i have no idea
[03:04] <lynx7os5> deper29: bash: cd: /usr/src/linux: No such file or directory
[03:04] <xui23> almoarife: hmm, i don't know
[03:04] <lynx7os5> deper29: theres a bunch of linux-headers-* though :\
[03:05] <mrdavid> I'm trying to ssh tunnel my web traffic from my local machine to a remote machine. I setup the ssh connection with: ssh -C2TnN -D 8888<EMAIL_ADDRESS>I set my browser proxy to <IP_ADDRESS> port 8888. I'm not able to connect to any sites. Any ideas?
[03:05] <mrdavid> I get "connection reset"
[03:06] <deper29> lynx7os5: you want this for your current kernel?
[03:06] <escott> deper29, those are just headers there are no c files in /usr/src
[03:07] <lynx7os5> deper29: sorry, yeah, please
[03:07] <deper29> lynx7os5: 'uname -a' that will tell you your current kernel. then you cd into the kernel directory in /usr/src
[03:08] <lynx7os5> deper29: cool, thanks
[03:09] <lynx7os5> i feel dumb now :p
[03:09] <deper29> lynx7os5: no problem. i've asked worse questions here
[03:10] <dem0n> hey guys i have just ran into a weird situation with linux and vmware player, for no reason my internet just stopped working on ubuntu. Windows 7 is my main host os, and ubuntu linux is my guest os. Okay so internet just stopped working so i tried "ping google.com" and i would get the message "unresolved host" which is weird, so i rebooted and tried again but linux still has no internet connection. However, when i switch ubuntu over to "bridged" as my network
[03:10] <dem0n> Anyone have any ideas why this might be?
[03:10] <dem0n> i didn't alter/touch any host/route files, it litteraly just stopped working
[03:11] <WXZ> given a list of packages, how do I figure out the least amount of packages to install so that it installs all the packages?
[03:11] <escott> dem0n, you switch over to bridged what happens
[03:11] <escott> WXZ, why not just install all of them
[03:11] <WXZ> because there's a lotttttttttt of them
[03:12] <WXZ> and I'm trying to be a bit more selective
[03:12] <WXZ> basically I installed a bunch of packages, but I only want to know the "head" packages I installed
[03:12] <bkc_> WXZ: it doesn't matter, dependencies are checked anyway :)
[03:12] <dem0n> escott, when i switch to bridged it works fine
[03:12] <schnoodles-e> Anyone know where screenshots usually get saved ?
[03:13] <WXZ> bkc_: it's to figure out which packages I wanted to install, not to reinstall all the packages
[03:13] <bkc_> WXZ: ooh, check for dependency-flags :)
[03:13] <schnoodles-e> ahh dw worked it out
[03:13] <escott> dem0n, in NAT mode the windows dhcp server is probably not providing a DNS
[03:13] <WXZ> bkc_: how do I do that?
[03:13] <bkc_> WXZ: apt-get --help OR man apt-get ;)
[03:14] <bkc_> should give you a hint on how to do that :)
[03:14] <dem0n> escott: i figured it probably had something to do with dhcp, any ideas what i can do to fix this?
[03:15] <konobi> is there a way to install esound without the pulseaudio on precise?
[03:15] <dem0n> when i do ping i get this...
[03:15] <dem0n> ping: unknown host www.google.com
[03:15] <escott> dem0n, verify it is true by trying to ping the windows host or <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:16] <escott> dem0n, if you can ping <IP_ADDRESS> then the problem is on the windows side
[03:16] <dem0n> ping'ing <IP_ADDRESS> works
[03:16] <bkc_> dem0n: set the dns-servers to <IP_ADDRESS>,<IP_ADDRESS> :)
[03:16] <WXZ> bkc_: no, that's not it, I basically want to know the relationships between an arbitrary set of packages
[03:17] <dem0n> and when i ping my router "<IP_ADDRESS>" it works too...
[03:17] <WXZ> bkc_: kind of like a dot graph, but where I don't know the edges
[03:17] <bkc_> WXZ: dependency == relationship, and it should work for arbitrary packages :)
[03:18] <escott> dem0n, my guess is something like "the vm is coming up before the windows host has connected to the network" and that the windows computer doesn't know a DNS to give the guest, but it can set the route to itself
[03:18] <dem0n> escott: how can i go about doing that?
[03:18] <escott> WXZ, but why do you want to know this
[03:18] <bkc_> WXZ: try debtree :)
[03:19] <bkc_> WXZ: http://collab-maint.alioth.debian.org/debtree/
[03:19] <WXZ> bkc_: I have
[03:19] <escott> dem0n, in the network settings you can set it to DHCP addresses only and set your own DNS, or you could only start the VM when the host is online
[03:19] <bkc_> WXZ: is it what you want?
[03:20] <schnoodles-e> Is tasksel still the default way to set up a lamp server?
[03:20] <bkc_> WXZ: ooh, "multiple packages" is on the ToDo-list -.- sorry nvm :)
[03:20] <WXZ> bkc_: but I don't know how to use deb_tree with multiple inputs, I kind of have to go through each package (and there's tonnes of them, then check which package it installs); basically, if I have a set of 18 packages, I have to do 18^2 checks
[03:20] <dem0n> escott: i was looking at my adapter settings for windows and it has two adapter for vmware vmware network adapter VMNet8 and VMNet1
[03:20] <WXZ> escott: to figure out which packages I marked for installation
[03:20] <dem0n> escott: when i hit "diagnose" on windows for both of those adapters it says that DHCP is not enabled for this adapter
[03:21] <WXZ> escott: history tells me which packages I installed, but not the ones I marked for installation initially
[03:21] <dem0n> escott: but it said that also when i was in "bridged" for vmware player, and remember my internet works on "bridged"
[03:22] <escott> dem0n, yes. the host would act as the dhcp server so dhcp would not be set for those adapters
[03:22] <escott> WXZ, xargs, unique
[03:23] <WXZ> escott: hmmm?
[03:23] <WXZ> escott: that was a bit vague
[03:23] <escott> WXZ, for each of the 18 packages you want to know if it appears in the output of debtree for the other 17 packages. seems pretty straightforward
[03:24] <WXZ> escott: it is, but imagine that in about 80 groups of 5-20 packages
[03:24] <escott> WXZ, for $package in () do debtree $package > $package.depends; done; for $package in () do; grep $package !($package).depends done
[03:24] <konobi> anyone with any idea on how to install esound?
[03:25] <escott> konobi, pulse should provide an esound emulation library
[03:25] <Slayback> yesterday i saw a group of kids i went to high school with but rarely talked too, i ran up to them extremely fast and said "HEY DAN!!! FRIEND!!!!" because i thought it was funny and put my hand out greet them and then clenchedd my fists together and had an extremely serius look on my face and  said "im trippin balls"
[03:25] <WXZ> escott: aah, so you're saying I should write a script?
[03:25] <Slayback> then we went to mccdonalds where i said "tripping at mccdonalds" a few times durign our conversations a bit loudly while inside.
[03:25] <konobi> escott: do not have pulseaudio
[03:26] <faina> Does anyone know how to set a package back to automatically installed apt-get installed it?
[03:26] <faina> err, installed after you apt-get installed it
[03:27] <konobi> escott: i'm using plain old alsa... working just fine... i just want esd
[03:27] <dem0n> escott: so what do you think is my best option?
[03:27] <escott> konobi, yeah i dont care
[03:27] <konobi> nor do i
[03:27] <konobi> but since apt is fucking me over, i have no choice put to ask
[03:28] <mark_> pulseaudio does an esd wrapper
[03:28] <escott> dem0n, not sure what you mean. if you want NAT mode then set it to dhcp addresses only
[03:28] <escott> mark_, he is one of those anti-poetterists
[03:28] <konobi> o.O
[03:29] <mark_> poetterist?
[03:29] <dem0n> escott: when i look at my "ipconfig /all" output it tells me that for my vmware ethernet adapters that dhcp is not enabled?
[03:29] <dem0n> escott: yes i would like to use "NAT Mode" for my guest os with is ubuntu
[03:30] <escott> dem0n, i dont know what to tell you honestly. this is a vmware/windows problem. neither of which i know anything about
[03:30] <konobi> i attempted to use pulseaudio, but it kicked the can when it came to supporting surround sound on my machine
[03:31] <dem0n> escott: okay..
[03:31] <Slayback> lol
[03:32] <gotoguy> any one know how to install a local file using apt-get ?
[03:34] <OerHeks> gotoguy, use dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
[03:34] <gotoguy> Great Thanks !!
[03:34] <gotoguy> I was looking a the wrong, command thanks again !!!!
[03:35] <OerHeks> gotoguy, do not forget 'sudo'
[03:35] <gotoguy> OerHeks, yes thanks.
[03:35] <konobi> screw it install from source time
[03:37] <gotoguy> OerHeks:  Will that also pull any needed dependancies ?
[03:39] <escott> gotoguy, i don't believe so, but it will complain
[03:39] <OerHeks> gotoguy, i am not sure, depends on what you try to install, installing manually can be tricky
[03:39] <dem0n> okay i am going to try something...
[03:39] <OerHeks> the error will give you a clue
[03:39] <gotoguy> escott and OerHeks , to both of you thanks !
[03:40] <dem0n> escott: tell me what you think of this...i went into the IPv4 settings for my vmware adapters (on windows 7) and the only thing filled in was ipv4 address: <IP_ADDRESS>" and subnet: <IP_ADDRESS> and dns was blank
[03:40] <dem0n> i told it to get the ip address automatically
[03:40] <dem0n> i am going to try and reboot and see if it works...
[03:41] <dem0n> brb wish me luck everyone
[03:41] <justmeh> gl
[03:41] <alusion> In my home network, I use a router to bridge the connection between my pc's and the main router/modem. When port  forwarding, whatever ports I forward on my bridge router I forward on the modem one too. Like connecting pipes right  or connecting bridges yes?
[03:43] <dr_willis> alusion:  so its   pc ==> router2 [03:44] <alusion> dr_willis: yup.
[03:44] <alusion> dr_willis: if there is a better alternative to my home network setup let me know, but I just wanna be clear with port forwarding
[03:44] <dr_willis> alusion:  i would think you would forward on each router. Some routers have a 'bridge' mode - not sure if you would need to in that case
[03:45] <dr_willis> just a switch or hub would work instead of router2 i would think.
[03:46] <alusion> dr_willis would I note be prone to mac flooding / arp spoofing then?
[03:46] <alusion> wouldn't I *
[03:46] <dr_willis> spoofing by whom?
[03:46] <dr_willis> this is a home lan>? school? business?
[03:47] <alusion> lol. home. but.. I wanna know this information for professional sake
[03:47] <dr_willis> I dont think you gain anything by having nested routers...
[03:47] <dr_willis> unless you are scared of whoever is on the first router.
[03:48] <dr_willis> you sort of have 2 seperate networks.  which may or may not be what you want.
[03:49] <akazerg> How to make profile-user(non-sudo), though Terminal?
[03:49] <alusion> dr_willis yeah for the sake of having a home lab to test things with. I guess the config is good for now, I just want to host some services on one of my machines
[03:50] <alusion> thanks for the tip ^_^
[03:50] <aeon-ltd> !adduser
[03:50] <dr_willis> akazerg:  you mean a 'normal' user?  (not sure what you mean by profile-user)
[03:50] <akazerg> yeah
[03:50] <aeon-ltd> akazerg: click the link
[03:50] <dr_willis> sudo adduser billgates     ;)
[03:50] <akazerg> ok... I am opened
[03:51] <WXZ> escott: that was pseudo-code you gave me, right?
[03:51] <escott> WXZ, yes
[03:52] <WXZ> yay, now I have to learn bash
[03:52] <akazerg> thx, added
[03:53] <She153> will apt-get update && apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-current-modaliases nvidia-settings get current nvidia drivers ?
[03:53] <She153> ????
[03:54] <She153> i need to install nvidia driver on  here
[03:55] <dr_willis> ive neer had to install anything then nvidia-current ;) the other packages got pulled in i think
[03:55] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current then reboot.. then run nvidia-settings to tweak it how i want
[03:59] <waspinator> how would I start openvpn during boot? I can start it now using sudo openvpn client.ovpn
[04:00] <akazerg> How to see, ports which opened on my ubuntu?
[04:02] <escott> !info nmap | akazerg
[04:03] <akazerg> nmap support IPv6?
[04:03] <escott> waspinator, there is rc.local but an initscript would be better
[04:03] <escott> akazerg, i dont see why it wouldnt
[04:04] <akazerg> ok
[04:04] <akazerg> thx
[04:04] <waspinator> escott: I can't even seem to start it using service openvpn start
[04:04] <waspinator> even though I copied the client.ovpn file to /etc/openvpn
[04:05] <escott> waspinator, does it have an init script?
[04:05] <waspinator> I assume you mean this: /etc/init.d/openvpn?
[04:06] <waspinator> it has that
[04:06] <waspinator> I didn't write it though
[04:06] <waspinator> just came with apt-get install openvpn
[04:08] <escott> waspinator, is it a sysvinit script or an upstart script? (if it were upstart it would be a symlink to /lib/init/upstart-job)
[04:09] <waspinator> escott: it's not a symlink so I guess its a sysvinit script
[04:10] <escott> waspinator, i think those are handled with rc-update
[04:11] <escott> waspinator, man update-rc.d
[04:11] <escott> !upstart | waspinator probably has more docs
[04:13] <robertzaccour> is there a big performance difference between mate and gnome shell?
[04:14] <waspinator> escott: I tried starting it using update-rc.d but it gave me an error.  I tried https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/openvpn.html#openvpn-simple-client-configuration but it didn't work
[04:15] <tripelb> What is wrong here /join #ububtu-offtopic
[04:15] <escott> !vpn | waspinator
[04:15] <tripelb> I don't join it
[04:15] <waspinator> escott: that's useless. thanks anyway
[04:16] <escott> robertzaccour, they are so different that im not sure a meaningful comparison could be drawn
[04:17] <robertzaccour> escott, is there a performance difference?
[04:17] <sunil1> Hi, I had a grub issue (dual boot win 7 &ubuntu), so i installed ubuntu 12.04, i lost all my win7 partitions , any help?
[04:18] <sunil1> Hi, I had a grub issue (dual boot win 7 &ubuntu), so i installed ubuntu 12.04, i lost all my win7 partitions , any help?
[04:19] <escott> robertzaccour, sure there is
[04:20] <robertzaccour> escott, which performs better?
[04:20] <escott> sunil1, what is the output of "sudo parted -l" use paste.ubuntu.com
[04:20] <escott> robertzaccour, at what?
[04:20] <robertzaccour> escott, video editing/recording, and speed.
[04:21] <escott> robertzaccour, neither MATE nor gnome-shell can edit or record video
[04:21] <sunil1> escott, here is the paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/1444525/
[04:21] <tree88> hey hi frens my wired internet connection is not working in my hp dm4 note book it is like toggling betn connect and disconnect can any one help m please
[04:21] <robertzaccour> escott, I know, just wondering which is less resource intensive
[04:22] <tree88> hey hi frens my wired internet connection is not working in my hp dm4 note book it is like toggling betn connect and disconnect can any one help m please
[04:22] <tree88> hey hi frens my wired internet connection is not working in my hp dm4 note book it is like toggling betn connect and disconnect can any one help m please
[04:22] <escott> sunil1, partitions 3 and 4 are ntfs
[04:22] <sunil1> I had data in my E: drive & F: drive , and they are not visible now
[04:23] <escott> sunil1, can you not boot one of those partitions? 3 or 4
[04:23] <sunil1> i am able to boot into windows 7, but dont see my partitons
[04:24] <sunil1> i only see c: (OS drive)
[04:24] <escott> sunil1, how many partitions did you have initially for windows
[04:24] <sunil1> c, e, f
[04:25] <escott> sunil1, that doesn't mean much to us since we don't use drive letters. i see 3 windows type partitions. 1 which is 100MB, 3 which is 16GB and 4 which is 108GB
[04:25] <corvaxia> If I am using an ubunutu LiveUSB, will my other USB ports still be usable while running the live instance?
[04:25] <escott> is C the 108GB partition
[04:26] <escott> corvaxia, yes
[04:26] <escott> tree88, anything notable in dmesg
[04:26] <sunil1> escott, yes C is 108GB
[04:26] <escott> sunil1, how big were e and f
[04:27] <escott> sunil1, and can you find the 100MB and 16GB filesystems in windows
[04:27] <sunil1> escott, No i just see the one
[04:27] <sunil1> escott, e and f were around 100 gb each
[04:28] <corvaxia> escort Thank you
[04:28] <corvaxia> I seem to be having some issues. I have a LiveUSB of Ubuntu 12.10 32bit and its being used on a MacbookPro 9,2. When I try to plug in any other usb device it doesn't seem to recognize it in the system. Can I manually mount a specific USB port and force it to recognize the other usb device/drive? To be honest I am trying to root my phone without installing Ubuntu on its own partition
[04:29] <phunyguy_t430s> does anyone have a fix for firefox with dark GTK themes, some sites have black input boxes with black text, or white input boxes with white text...
[04:29] <escott> sunil1, its possible you selected the wrong option during the install and deleted those other partitions
[04:29] <escott> sunil1, not sure why windows would hide partitions from you, but thats windows for you
[04:30] <sunil1> escott, i had a dual boot and grub got corrupted, so i just reinstalled ubuntu12.04 with options a dual boot. I was not asked any other option
[04:31] <sunil1> escott, is there a way to see these partitons in ubuntu, i dont see these as well(sorry, i am new to ubuntu)
[04:31] <escott> sunil1, they should appear in nautilus as the 100MB and 16GB filesystems numbered 1 and 2
[04:32] <escott> corvaxia, what does lsusb show
[04:32] <Jordan_U> sunil1: If grub got "corrupted" then something went seriously wrong. If you have fewer partitions now than you had before grub got "corrupted" then grub failing is probably a symptom of whatever happened that deleted the partition(s) (i.e. the partitions were already gone before you re-installed Ubuntu).
[04:33] <corvaxia> I do not have it set up at the moment so I will have to check back when I have the liveUSB running again
[04:33] <sunil1> jordan_U, thanks. is there a way to get the data ?
[04:33] <escott> corvaxia, its possible that the bootloader does something weird to hide the usb interface from the usb stick during early boot and maybe a different usb port would work
[04:33] <escott> !info testdisk | sunil1
[04:33] <escott> sunil1, if thats the case though you have already written over much of it
[04:33] <Jordan_U> sunil1: It depends on what exactly happened, but don't get your hopes up too much.
[04:34] <escott> sunil1, or at least some subset of it
[04:34] <sunil1> escott, just ran testdisk, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1444535/
[04:35] <sunil1> Jordan_U, just ran testdisk, not sure whats next http://paste.ubuntu.com/1444535/
[04:35] <theDeadSinger_> hello?
[04:35] <sunil1> ubottu, ran testdisk, not sure whats the next step http://paste.ubuntu.com/1444535/
[04:35] <escott> sunil1, none of that is helpful since it doesn't mention any NTFS partitions
[04:36] <sunil1> escott, "EXT4 Large file Sparse superblock Recover, 507 GB / 472 GiB"  does this mean something?
[04:37] <escott> sunil1, yes it means "EXT4 Large file Sparse superblock Recover, 507 GB / 472 GiB"
[04:37] <escott> sunil1, testdisk has always seemed to be needlessly cryptic, but since you are looking for windows partitions you are looking for NTFS not EXT4
[04:38] <chris_gr> Good morning,anyone had success installing themes with gnome-session-fallback?
[04:38] <phunyguy_t430s> !anyone | chris_gr
[04:39] <alusion> does anyone here use mailx or mail?
[04:40] <escott> !anyone | alusion
[04:41] <theDeadSinger_> hi! so, i'm using a nvidia geforce Go 6800, and Lubuntu, but i don't think the drivers are installed, the computer doesn't seem to have any information about them. and i ask because i think my laptop should perform better with the right drivers.
[04:41] <alusion> I was wondering how to scroll down the messages list in mailx, also I have a question in regards to the address I receive mail from [[currently using it for snort]] can I send mail from other servers to it?
[04:42] <escott> theDeadSinger_, does it have nvidia optimus?
[04:43] <theDeadSinger_> no idea! that info would be somewhere in the computer specs i could look up online?
[04:43] <escott> theDeadSinger_, it might have a sticker. is it an intel cpu
[04:44] <alusion> I just want to be able to scroll through my messages and see my latest new ones
[04:44] <theDeadSinger_> it is, but that sounds like newer tech... this is a centrino from 2005. i'll check the bottom...
[04:45] <escott> theDeadSinger_, thats a good sign actually. see if you can install the nvidia drivers through software sources
[04:45] <phunyguy_t430s> does anyone have a fix for firefox with dark GTK themes, some sites have black input boxes with black text, or white input boxes with white text...
[04:46] <escott> phunyguy_t430s, you could probably setup an override css for every page to detect any textboxs with those properties and fix the colors
[04:46] <phunyguy_t430s> escott, I dont know CSS....
[04:46] <phunyguy_t430s> and I couldnt find one that actually worked 100%
[04:47] <phunyguy_t430s> wasnt sure if someone already had a working solution
[04:47] <aeon-ltd> phunyguy_t430s: mod the gtk theme, find the parameter change the hexadecimal color code
[04:48] <phunyguy_t430s> aeon-ltd: thats not the issue - it is an issue with sites ignoring potential dark themes when creating pages.
[04:48] <phunyguy_t430s> they hardcode the text color and not the background, or vice versa
[04:48] <theDeadSinger_> i downloaded what i thought was the correct legacy driver, it came out as a .run text file, which i tried to install, and i don't know where i am on that, i tried to make a "nvidia-xconfig" file, which kept telling me it was corrupted. then i tried to restart the x server with ctrl+alt+backspace, but nothing happened
[04:48] <aeon-ltd> oh, then yeah overriding css is probably the only option
[04:51] <escott> phunyguy_t430s, CSS isn't that bad. the only hard part about CSS is the cascading which you dont care about
[04:51] <schnoodles-e> Hey I just created a really simple vhost (ServerName and DocumentRoot) and when I try to access it in the browser my logs show ---- [Mon Dec 17 15:50:17 2012] [crit] [client <IP_ADDRESS>] (13)Permission denied: /home/josh/Development/work/.htaccess pcfg_openfile: unable to check htaccess file, ensure it is readable
[04:51] <schnoodles-e> I have no idea why they are trying to look for a .htaccess file there when the DocumentRoot is set to /home/josh/Development/work/lh/
[04:52] <binary_glitch> looking for suggestions for cloud alternative, basicaly I want to access my files that are on my 1TB portable USB HDD that's connected to my home computer from any computer, laptop, tablet or smart phone over the internet as if those files where on the device accessing them. Ideas I'm considering are FTP, VPN, SSH, and other Remote Desktop technologies.
[04:52] <escott> theDeadSinger_, you should install through the software sources application not by downloading a run file
[04:53] <phunyguy_t430s> escott, ok.
[04:53] <escott> binary_glitch, don't use ftp, use sftp. don't use VPN unless it is over ssh. dont use RDP. which leaves SSH
[04:53] <chris_gr> schnoodles-e maybe you have a Require Directive on the vhost?
[04:54] <schnoodles-e> chris_gr, whoops sorry this question would be better suited for apache's channel I was just using ubuntu. I will have a look :)
[04:54] <chris_gr> ok
[04:54] <theDeadSinger_> @escott good to know, which ubuntu/lubuntu application am i looking for? additional drivers brings nothing new, update manager?
 thanx for the response will look up your suggestions, ie the diff between ftp and sftp... what would you advise?
[04:55] <escott> theDeadSinger_, lubuntu i dont know
[04:55] <BonziBuddy> how can i completely lock a user, account login lock with passwd -l does not prevent someone from sshing into given user for example, how do i completely lock/unlock users?
[04:55] <kvothetech> escott: what you have against vpns?
[04:55] <kvothetech> escott: vpn's have a lot of good uses...rdp is a joke as is normal ftp
[04:55] <escott> binary_glitch, ftp=insecure junk, sftp=actually just ssh
[04:56] <kvothetech> sftp you might as well just use scp
[04:56] <escott> kvothetech, i dont have anything against vpn's but a vpn is just going to be an ssh tunnel anyways
[04:56] <kvothetech> escott: a vpn is not an ssh tunnel..though you could use an ssh tunnel like a vpn
[04:56] <escott> theDeadSinger_, you could just install nvidia-common
[04:57] <binary_glitch> OpenVPN uses OpenSSH by default form what my research tells me...
[04:58] <escott> kvothetech, i actually misread it initially as VNC initially not VPN, but all roads lead to ssh anyways
[04:59] <kvothetech> escott: lol vpn can use ssh but there's other protocols that are better for it.
[04:59] <binary_glitch> just not sure how easily I could use it to say watch a movie on a phone, one of my goals... ik watching a movie on a phone is crap, but it could have made my day recently.
[05:00] <theDeadSinger_> thanks for your help!
[05:00] <escott> binary_glitch, is your upload speed fast enough for that anyways
[05:00] <theDeadSinger_> thanks! i'll try that!
[05:00] <binary_glitch> no
[05:01] <binary_glitch> i would have to be able to download the whole thing first... I'm at little more than dial-up speed lol
[05:01] <theDeadSinger_> can the "sudo lshw -C video" command be reading the card i have wrong?
[05:01] <escott> binary_glitch, whatever you do will not end well
[05:02] <escott> theDeadSinger_, not likely
[05:02] <theDeadSinger_> that might be the problem, thinking i have a different card than i do.
[05:04] <binary_glitch> I know that going in, I'm a man of extreemly limited means... like one gig ram, 1.5 mhz processor, and not two penies to rub together to make a difference in it, I've computed this far behind times my whole life and pulled off some amazing feets... lol I'm runing compiz on this thing with no lag and my cube spins a virtual box of xp lol amazing
[05:05] <binary_glitch> I do it with work, sacrifice, and patience...
[05:11] <binary_glitch> hello?
[05:12] <Easton_> When I start 12.04 LTS, the menu/taskbar thing does not appear, the only thing that does appear is the wallpaper and mouse. Any solutions? (It does appear when I run Ubuntu in recovery mode.)
[05:13] <aeon-ltd> binary_glitch: yes?
[05:13] <theDeadSinger_> if i uninstall the nvidia x.org current driver app from the app center, will that send everything back to the default drivers? especially if i never got the nvidia drivers to work?
[05:13] <Toph3> Easton_,,, do you also lose all the panels?
[05:13] <Easton_> And by panels, do you mean the icons on the left side?
[05:13] <binary_glitch> did I mention that this is a live setup that resides on the HDD in question and thus can be implimented on a much more capable machine... Please don't discount it as a lost cause
[05:14] <Toph3> Easton_,,, no,, i understand they are gone, but I mean the top panel with the time, etc
[05:14] <Easton_> Yes
[05:15] <Toph3> Easton_,,, i had the same,, i was installed on a ssd and after I switched some cabling around on my MO and reinstalled, the problem disappeared
[05:15] <aeon-ltd> binary_glitch: i wasn't paying attention earlier, what do you need help with?
[05:15] <Easton_> What exactly do you mean by MO?
[05:16] <Toph3> motherboard
[05:16] <Easton_> Ah
[05:16] <Guest16108> trying to setup raid for two drives that are setup through mb in soft raid but cannot get them to build as md1 in ubuntu 12.04.  I keep getting either the busy/not available or no superblock errors.  Does anyone have suggestions?
[05:16] <Easton_> Well, I'm using a laptop without a SSD, so I can't easily access cables.
[05:17] <Toph3> Easton_,,, my system stayed up the better part of a day before it crashed to leave only the wallpaper and pointer
[05:17] <binary_glitch> I want to access my hdd files from anywhere on any device, without using the cloud, I want to even be able to dl my movies from my home computer to my phone.
[05:17] <heoyea> setup a file server
[05:17] <Toph3> Easton_,,, ok,, i never did find how to correct it
[05:18] <Easton_> Toph3,,, that's unfortunate.
[05:18] <Ben64> binary_glitch: you will need a server, and sync your files to the server where you can access it anywhere
[05:18] <kvothetech> binary_glitch: scp? owncloud? http server...
[05:18] <binary_glitch> i'm thinking about using OpenVPN but want to be able to use it from a Win box, android, Ipad, whatever....
[05:19] <heoyea> maybe get a pogoplug
[05:19] <aeon-ltd> binary_glitch: roll your own cloud, then host a website aswell
[05:19] <binary_glitch> I've consittered an FTP/SFTP server, but I would need to be able to use that same hardwhere as a desktop too.
[05:20] <heoyea> rasberry pi for ur cheap server
[05:20] <binary_glitch> also a big part of the point is that I cant pay for cloud serviec much less to host my own websight.
[05:21] <binary_glitch> no money.
[05:21] <escott> Guest16108, its called fake raid
[05:21] <wrapids2> I've booted from usb with the current laptop and current version of ubuntu before, suddenly I'm just getting "boot error" when I try to boot from it. The usb drive is working fine on a few other laptops, but for some reason it just wont boot on minfe
[05:21] <wrapids2> mine*.
[05:22] <wrapids2> And I'm certain it was the same usb drive that i booted it from previously.
[05:22] <aeon-ltd> binary_glitch: the website would be run on the same server, no domain name w/static ip - bookmark this. this would be free, but with security risks
[05:22] <Guest16108> escott: yes understood, just trying to figure out how to fix from ubuntu
[05:22] <escott> Guest16108, what personality is it right now
[05:23] <Guest16108> escott: it isn't showing anything for the personality
[05:23] <escott> Guest16108, in the bios what personality is it
[05:23] <wrapids2> I've also checked my BIOS settings, the only USB options I have in it are to enable/disable legacy drivers. They are currently enabled, BIOS can see the device (obviously) as it's trying to boot from it.
[05:24] <binary_glitch> and if (due to the lack of money) I am kind of aquiring my internet from my neighbor (but I pwn the router) could I still set up a static IP?
[05:24] <Guest16108> not sure, didn't check there yet
[05:25] <aeon-ltd> binary_glitch: ok i'm gonna stop here if you are going to use these methods.
[05:25] <escott> Guest16108, well if its stripping then its doubtful you will ever get it to boot. if its mirrored you might get it to boot, but mdadm would be better than fake raid so its best if you disable it
[05:26] <Guest16108> escott: I set it up in the bios as mirror and would like to setup that way in ubuntu that way as well.  So if I am understanding you right, I need to disable bios and run only through ubuntu?
[05:28] <escott> Guest16108, fake raid is junk. and junk tends not to attract the interest of developers. mdadm will work better, with some dm drivers you might be able to get your fake raid mirror to read, and with some more hacks grub can boot but without a reason for using it
[05:28] <discosrule> Hi all, anyone help me with a SSH setup that i currently have>? Currently have an SSH server on my Home network and connect to it from work, everything works great. The issue I have is that the machine I connect from at work has a little webserver on it that I want to access on ALL the machines at home.  I currently can only access it on the SSH server at home. i use the command ssh username@server -p22 -r1234:<IP_ADDRESS>:80  can anyone help>?
[05:28] <binary_glitch> It is for lack of options... sorry, I don't mean to be a bad guy... I physically don't get to choose when and where I am, I'm only by passing the cruelty the people who control my life are imposing on me.
[05:28] <binary_glitch> at least I'm honest
[05:28] <aeon-ltd> binary_glitch: wut?
[05:29] <Guest16108> escott: so could having the bios fake raid set be causing the mdadm to reflect it as being busy when trying to create md1 through it?
[05:29] <escott> Guest16108, mdadm is a pure software implementation it will not work with fake raid
[05:29] <aeon-ltd> binary_glitch: you are justifying breaking someones encrypted wifi so you can host a private file server to stream your media wherever you want.
[05:30] <sin_tax> Hello, is there a good method to take a MDADM RAID 1 array of 2 disks and revert to just normal two drive behavior without mirroring, but to retain the data on at least one of the drives?
[05:30] <escott> Guest16108, you may be able to find a dmraid "driver" for your fake raid
[05:30] <Guest16108> escott:  I would prefer to run just through mdadm, so if that means I need to go back through bios and disable then so be it.
[05:30] <escott> sin_tax, break the array. and at that point either continue to use in degraded mode or convert the table to a non-mdadm table
[05:31] <escott> Guest16108, thats the best supported and best performing solution
[05:31] <sin_tax> escott, thanks, how would I convert the table, is that a mdadm deal or would I use another command?
[05:32] <binary_glitch> I'm 31, and my stepmother has gardienship over me bacause she foold the courts, now I'm held against my will, and cant get the freedom to fight this... it is criminal, I want to move video evidence to locations in an elaberate plan to stop this injustice, cuz attempting to contact athorities has caused me great duress in the past.
[05:32] <escott> sin_tax, with parted (just changing the flags) obviously do this with the device broken off the array to make sure its non-destructive
[05:33] <Guest16108> escott: thanks, I'll go that route then.  I also had two other drives that were setup as raid1 initially when I had my old ubuntu load on this machine and it mounted it just fine, but now since upgrading to 12.04 it is jacked, should I do the same for it?
[05:33] <sin_tax> escott, thanks much for the info
[05:33] <lolcat> binary_glitch: What are you trying to do?
[05:33] <aeon-ltd> binary_glitch: nice story.
[05:33] <escott> Guest16108, just don't use fake raid. thats the universal recommendation
[05:34] <binary_glitch> and I broke no encription... I only figured out that the password to the unchangeable username was well, password...
[05:34] <Guest16108> escott: so once I remove from bios and load back in to ubuntu, is that going to cause issues with the data on the two drives that had been there previously?  What is the best way to recover the data?
[05:35] <aeon-ltd> binary_glitch: it's still stealing
[05:35] <cnz> how do I restart my /etc/network/interfaces again?
[05:35] <escott> Guest16108, if its a mirror you might see two copies of the data. but i dont really know
[05:35] <cnz> without a reboot
[05:35] <aeon-ltd> binary_glitch: if you are 31 why can't you get emancipated?
[05:35] <Guest16108> escott: ok, I'll give it a try.  Thanks for the info.
[05:36] <binary_glitch> and the sarcasim about my "story" is exactly the type of thinking that caused me to have an even harder time geting this done. and yes it is stealing , would you not steal to save yourself from a life of faulse imprisonment, I'm not saying it's right...
[05:36] <aeon-ltd> binary_glitch: you should be talking to a lawyer
[05:37] <binary_glitch> I'm just saying, it's the thing I must do right or wrong!
[05:37] <aeon-ltd> binary_glitch: explain how streaming media would help your emancipation?
[05:40] <aeon-ltd> binary_glitch: http://lawyers.findlaw.com/lawyer/practicestate/family-law/arizona this is where you should be looking, not breaking laws to justify your freedom. life isn't a movie
[05:40] <binary_glitch> once again tried that, now I live somewhere else with fewer resorces... just help me be sneeky with moving some files, with whatever technology is available when I get where I need my evidence to be and ... you know what fuck you all, never mind, I'm outta here, I need this precious time to do my own research...
[05:40] <binary_glitch> ./quite
[05:40] <binary_glitch> \/quite
[05:40] <FloodBot1> binary_glitch: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:48] <dcherniv> wth was that all about
[05:57] <tripelb> I cat join #ubuntu-of ftopic. Why not?
[05:58] <tripelb> This. -->/join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:59] <Altaires> I have 350 folders I have to change permissions for. Is there any way to do it without having to monotonously do each one individually?
[05:59] <rumpe1> Altaires, recursively?
[06:00] <Jordan_U> Altaires: What is your exact situation?
[06:00] <Altaires> rumpel: how does one do this recursively?
[06:01] <Altaires> Jordan_U: I just recovered files from a HDD and they are not movable/deletable without changing the permissions
[06:01] <Altaires> Jordan_U: I used Photorec for the data recovery process
[06:02] <Jordan_U> Altaires: What type of files are they? (It's important because if they're for example system files you might want to preserve their permissions).
[06:02] <Altaires> Jordan_U: I'm sorry, folders. Not files.
[06:03] <justn_> You could use bash to loop through the folders and use chmod to change the permissions but it would probably be easier to just right click poperties in nautilus (the folder viewer) and change the permissions their
[06:03] <Altaires> Jordan_U: Within the folders are my pictures and my music
[06:03] <Jordan_U> Altaires: Are all of these directories within another directory?
[06:05] <Altaires> Jordan_U: you mean like one giant folder where all the directories are contained within? Nope, it's dispersed all throughout my home folder
[06:06] <ZaNeIuM> anyone home, and used openelec? i got an issue, the system crashed cause i messed up a file but not it will not boot, how can i gain access to it, to delet the file
[06:07] <ZaNeIuM> i put the drive on windows system with ex2 support but i only see system and kernel files?
[06:07] <Jordan_U> ZaNeIuM: Try #openelec
[06:07] <ZaNeIuM> Jordan_U: no ones home
[06:08] <ZaNeIuM> i guess its like some image or somthing
[06:08] <Altaires> justn_: I clicked properties and clicked on the permissions tab. It says owner: root group: root and folder access is greyed out along with execute. It then says at the bottom You are not the owner, so you cannot change these permissions
[06:08] <Jordan_U> ZaNeIuM: We can help you mount your OpenElec partition from an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB and delete a given file, but what file needs to be deleted or how to do so from within Windows are both clearly offtopic for this channel.
[06:09] <Jordan_U> Altaires: That makes things more difficult. My guess is that testdisk saved all of the files as root, so you'll want to make them all owned by your user (which I will walk you through).
[06:09] <ZaNeIuM> ok i wont mention windows
[06:09] <Altaires> Jordan_U: Okay. Ready when you are.
[06:09] <ZaNeIuM> but its not a regualar setup it seems like is a virtual image on dev1
[06:10] <justn_> Altaires: if you execute 'sudo nautilus' in terminal you should be able to change the owner from there
[06:10] <Jordan_U> Altaires: Do *not* do that.
[06:10] <aaaa> what
[06:10] <Altaires> Whoa lol okay almost tried that. What harm would it do?
[06:11] <Jordan_U> justn_: Altaires: You should never run GUI applications with just sudo, use gksudo instead, and I think this will probably be more easily and safely done from the terminal.
[06:11] <Jordan_U> Altaires: It might have prevented you from loggining in the next time you booted (or otherwise logged out and back in again).
[06:12] <Altaires> Jordan_U: And I'm just hearing this now?! Ah! I've been using sudo for everything. I learned it from googling
[06:12] <justn_> Jordan_U: Why not?  Please correct if I don't understand.  But you would still have to use sudo if you did it from terminal.
[06:12] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | justn_ Altaires
[06:13] <ZaNeIuM> jordan could you just look at it?
[06:14] <Altaires> Jordan_U: Do I still need you to walk me through this? Or are you saying I can just run nautilus within the terminal to do it so long as I use gksudo
[06:15] <Jordan_U> Altaires: I think this is better done via the terminal personally, though you could use nautilus. First, "find ~/ -maxdepth 1 -user root" should list all files and directories in your home directory that are owned by root.
[06:17] <Altaires> Jordan_U: I typed that in the terminal and nothing happened
[06:18] <Jordan_U> Altaires: I assumed that when you said "scattered around your home directory" you meant that all of the dirctories were immediately below ~/, but now I see I misinterpreted your statement.
[06:19] <CayceH> hello
[06:19] <Jordan_U> Altaires: Do you know where all 350 directories are? Could you give example paths to two of them so I have a better idea of the situation?
[06:20] <CayceH> I need help with getting opengl version 3.1 on ubuntu version 12.10
[06:20] <Altaires> Jordan_U: Sorry about that. Not too fluid in tech jargon. When you say directories you're referring to the folders that photorec recovered named "recup_dir.1" right?
[06:21] <Jordan_U> Altaires: "directory" means the same thing as "folder".
[06:22] <Jordan_U> Altaires: Could you give the full path to two of these "recup_dir.1" directories?
[06:24] <Altaires> filesystem-->Home-->User-->recup_dir.1
[06:24] <Altaires> filesystem-->Home-->User-->recup_dir.2 Jordan_U:
[06:25] <Jordan_U> Altaires: OK, so they're all named "recup_dir.number" and they're in your home directory?
[06:25] <srhb> Altaires: Usually one writes that as /home/username/recup_dir.1
[06:25] <Altaires> Yes, and there are 380+ of them that I'm trying to change the permissions of.
[06:26] <Jordan_U> Altaires: What is the output of "ls -ld ~/recup_dir.1" ?
[06:26] <Altaires> Jordan_U: Do i need to run that as gksudo?
[06:26] <Jordan_U> Altaires: No.
[06:27] <mrdavid> how are default applications configured? I was using transmission for bt. I installed a new bt client and now bt links go to the new app
[06:27] <savr> hi
[06:27] <Jordan_U> Altaires: Firstly because that command doesn't need to be run as root, and secondly because you only need to use gksudo instead of sudo for GUI apps (ls is not a GUI application, it's a terminal based one).
[06:28] <savr> broken images links: https://maas.ubuntu.com/docs/quantal/man/maas-cli.8.html#api-key
[06:28] <Altaires> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 20480 Dec 12 08:09 ~/recup_dir.1
[06:28] <Jordan_U> Altaires: Though using gksudo instead of sudo for non-gui apps doesn't hurt anything.
[06:29] <bkerensa> savr: thanks for letting us know I'll notify the proper people
[06:29] <savr> thanks bkerensa
[06:29] <Altaires> Jordan_U: Ah okay. Now I understand the proper use of gksudo. Did you see the terminals response I posted? Forgot to tag you in it.
[06:29] <Jordan_U> Altaires: Odd, my find command should have listed it then.  I already copied them over to another HDD I don'
[06:30] <Altaires> t need them
[06:30] <Jordan_U> Altaires: Please watch your language.
[06:31] <srhb> Is #ubuntu PG-13 ? :P Weirdo Americans.
[06:31] <RiXtEr> wow I read that as LS instead of is
[06:31] <Altaires> excuse me for being vulgar I've been working on trying to recover my data for a week now. Pretty frustrating
[06:33] <Jordan_U> Altaires: If you just want to delete them you can do that with a single command, but we need to be careful that we get it right. Does "echo ~/recup_dir.*" list all of the directories you want to delete, and nothing else?
[06:33] <justn_> Altaires I would just used 'gksudo nautilus' in terminal and move the files around/delete the files that way, terminal is great until you make a mistake with rm or rmdir and can't easily press undo
[06:34] <srhb> I think the "right" way to solve this is just to fix the ownerships of the whole glob, since they SHOULD be owned by him anyway.
[06:35] <srhb> Running GUI stuff with superuser privileges is at least as scary as a wrong sudo rm :)
[06:35] <Altaires> Jordan_U: Yes but in some weird zig zag pattern with the directories not being listed in order
[06:35] <Jordan_U> justn_: I'm guessing that it will be pretty tedious and error prone to delete all 350+ directories with nautilus run as root as well.
[06:36] <Jordan_U> Altaires: Good, then all you need to do is run "sudo rm -r ~/recup_dir.*" but be sure that you type it exactly, adding an extra space for example could delete your entire home directory instead.
[06:38] <Jordan_U> Altaires: And if it wasn't clear, that will just delete all the directories rather than changing their permissions first.
[06:38] <almoxarife> Altaires: is your graphical file manager broke?
[06:38] <justn_> Jordan_U: true it would probably be best to just change the ownership to himself like srhb proposed
[06:38] <srhb> almoxarife: No, the files are owned by root.
[06:38] <srhb> almoxarife: Due to [long, long talk]
[06:38] <almoxarife> srhb: great, thats what gksu is for
[06:39] <srhb> 350 directories... that's what the terminal is for. :-)
[06:39] <Altaires> Jordan_U: Oh okay. Now before I do this. It copied these files over to another HDD when I tried to move it. Are those files the same as the ones I'm about to delete? I know, it seems stupid but I'm just erring on the side of caution because I'm a low skill tech user
[06:40] <almoxarife> srhb: its 'ubuntu' , not arch, gui is cool in ubuntu, thats the point of it
[06:40] <mrdavid> where are default applications defined in Unity?
[06:40] <mrdavid> ie if I download a file of type foo, where is it defined what app opens it?
[06:41] <srhb> almoxarife: I respectfully disagree, the terminal is great for all things batchy, regardless of the distribution. :) But I'm certainly glad you feel that way!
[06:42] <Jordan_U> Altaires: In other words, you tried to move the files with the file manager and it successfully copied them, then complained that it couldn't delete the originals?
[06:42] <Altaires> Jordan_U: Yes exactly
[06:43] <srhb> mrdavid: Usually, xdg-open takes care of that.
[06:44] <srhb> mrdavid: eg, when I open a magnet link, what is actually called is xdg-open magnet://...
[06:44] <Jordan_U> Altaires: Then I expect that they all were copied successfully, but I can't be sure. Looking at the size of a few of the directories (including the 1st and last) will probably give you a good enough evidence that they've been fully copied over if you're really paranoid.
[06:46] <Altaires> Jordan_U: Wow you are right. Why didn't I think of that already haha. Thank you for your help I'm going to try running that command and I'll be back if I have any more questions
[06:46] <mrdavid> srhb: the any idea how to change it? I installed a new client and it's picking that over Transmission
[06:46] <mrdavid> srhb: I want transmission to handle all torrent/magnet links
[06:46] <Jordan_U> Altaires: You're welcome.
[06:48] <srhb> mrdavid: Are you comfortable with some terminal footwork?
[06:48] <mrdavid> srhb: absolutely
[06:49] <mrdavid> srhb: just point me at the config file
[06:49] <Doyle> Hey. My scree keeps turning off every 1 minute. Screensaver is set to 20m, and power saver is disabled. Any ideas?
[06:49] <srhb> mrdavid: I'm actually not sure where it is, but I'm sure you can manipulate it with gvfs-mime
[06:49] <srhb> mrdavid: So try gvfs-mime --query x-scheme-handler/magnet
[06:50] <srhb> mrdavid: What you want is probably gvfs-mime --set x-scheme-handler/magnet transmission-gtk.desktop
[06:50] <mrdavid> srhb: bingo. thanks a lot
[06:51] <mrdavid> srhb: I was hoping to find the file where the definitions are and set it that way. But this worked as well
[06:51] <srhb> mrdavid: That only helps for the torrent links though, I assume.
[06:51] <srhb> mrdavid: Er, magnet.
[06:51] <mrdavid> srhb: I supposed I could strace the process to see where it writes to
[06:51] <srhb> mrdavid: lsof will probably be simpler than the trace
[06:52] <Septima> Doyle: did you disable the power saver or screensaver from startup?
[06:52] <Altaires> Success! Thank you everyone and to Jordan_U especially
[06:52] <serp_> np
[06:53] <Doyle> I reinstalled the screensaver after I had no luck earlier
[06:53] <srhb> mrdavid: for the files, this should do: xdg-mime default transmission-gtk.desktop application/x-bittorrent
[06:55] <srhb> mrdavid: Ah, here we go. ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[06:55] <srhb> mrdavid: And the system-wide one is in /usr/share
[06:55] <Doyle> ... well I enabled all the screensaver options, set the times to large values, and the issue seems resolved. Disabling them just sets all values to minimum...  Thanks Septima for giving me the idea.
[06:56] <Doyle> Problem solved.
[06:56] <mrdavid> srhb: thanks, noted.
[06:57] <Altaires> Hey Jordan_U, what was that terminal syntax again? sudo rm -r ~/recup_dir.* ?
[06:57] <exeter> I have install ubuntu on a pendrive and bootloader configuration for the same on hard disk on which there is a pre installed windows 7. But the problem is now i want to uninstall ubuntu from pendrive as well as the bootloader config for the same ans install ubunton my harddisk. How to do that???
[06:58] <srhb> Altaires: Yes, and you can always make sure by replacing rm -r with echo to have it print all the names of the directories rather than delete them. Once you're satisfied that it's not deleting something you don't want gone, drop in rm -r again instead of echo
[06:59] <Altaires> srhb: awesome thank you
[06:59] <CayceH> srhb: smart
[06:59] <aaas> any one familar with avconv?  docs say the '-f' flag 'forces file format'  is this for teh container? or for the format of one of the streams?
[07:00] <aaas> avconv = ffmpeg
[07:00] <Jordan_U> Altaires: Yes, "sudo rm -r ~/recup_dir.*"
[07:02] <Ipsilon> I'm having difficulty finding an appropriate irc in which to ask this. I wanted to learn the premise under which the microsoft core fonts are distributed in linux.
[07:02] <Ipsilon> Mostly out of curiosity
[07:03] <srhb> Ipsilon: Do you mean the licensing conditions?
[07:03] <Ipsilon> Yeah. How people get their hands on the fonts...and what are my rights as a user.
[07:04] <Ipsilon> I know they are proprietary...but is it akin to "cracking" the fonts, etc.
[07:05] <Ipsilon> I mean, if it is under the same terms as windows people...I would not mind having Georgia and Trebuchet on my system.
[07:05] <srhb> Ipsilon: http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/eula.htm
[07:06] <dcherniv> aaas, never used -f
[07:06] <srhb> Ipsilon: Specifically this bit: You may reproduce and distribute an unlimited number of copies of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT; provided that each copy shall be a true and complete copy, including all copyright and trademark notices, and shall be accompanied by a copy of this EULA. Copies of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT may not be distributed for profit either on a standalone basis or included as part of your own product.
[07:07] <dcherniv> aaas, think
[07:07] <Ipsilon> Oh, thanks! I was in the wrong sourceforge that had a redacted EULA which was sketchy
[07:07] <evol-lose> I couldn't enter any chat room of icq, What's wrong? ubuntu12.04/pidgin
[07:08] <srhb> Ipsilon: I'm fairly sure I was presented the EULA when I installed the fonts on Ubuntu, in fact. :)
[07:08] <Ipsilon> ah, that's good. I wanted to figure this out before I installed them.
[07:09] <Ipsilon> Beautiful fonts...EULA is not too bad.
[07:09] <srhb> Meh, I'm not a fan. Just need them for wine. :-)
[07:10] <Ipsilon> Georgia is amazing for websites.
[07:10] <Ipsilon> Trebuchet is almost irreplacable for subtitles.
[07:11] <nir2142> tell me anyone here was able to download FULL circle ubuntu magazine 67?
[07:11] <Ipsilon> That's not to say that some linux fonts are better than the rest ;)
[07:14] <cfhowlett> nir2142: downloaded 67 without problems
[07:29] <Sven_vB> hi :)
[07:31] <Sven_vB> i think i found a bug (and fix) for ubiquity. is there any chance to search their repos for changes to a selected line of code? so i can see whether they fixed it already, and if their idea of a fix matches mine.
[07:32] <almoxarife> Sven_vB: you mean the source code, correct?
[07:32] <Sven_vB> yes
[07:33] <FancyPotato> I just installed Ubuntu, and am getting distorted splash screen, then just goes black.  I have a feeling it has to do with my nVidia card, but I'm not sure what to look for to fix.  Any help?
[07:33] <Sven_vB> it could also help if someone could point me to their repo at all - i tried searching it on launchpad, but without luck
[07:34] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|FancyPotato:
[07:34] <Sven_vB> FancyPotato, i'd first deactivate the splash and see if the text screen is distorted as well
[07:34] <FancyPotato> Okay.  We'll give that a shot.  Thanks for the help.
[07:39] <klloveall> i everyone, so, I'm having major computer issues. I've no idea why this happened, however, I installed sparkleshare yesterday (a drop box-like thing) and everything was going great, however, I reboot my computer today and I can't login. The login screen comes up and I enter my password, the screen goes black and then the login screen appears again. After much Google searching I've figured out its the X server crashing (o
[07:40] <Sven_vB> klloveall, so, did you check the x server logs for an error message?
[07:41] <klloveall> Which ones?
[07:41] <FancyPotato> Okay, tried nomodeset and nosplash, and the screen was still distorted.
[07:41] <Sven_vB> i'd start with .xsession-errors in your home directory.
[07:41] <Sven_vB> @ klloveall
[07:42] <FancyPotato> We've had an installation working on this machine before, but we just cant remember the proper boot parameter.  I seem to remember the command having to do with vga
[07:43] <Sven_vB> FancyPotato, if you happen to have backups that include an old syslog, your kernel parameters are probably in there.
[07:43] <FancyPotato> Sven_vB: I sure don't, this was a bit ago that we had this working.
[07:44] <Sven_vB> FancyPotato, http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/svga.txt says you should try "vga=ask", enter "scan" and you should get a list then
[07:44] <klloveall> @ sven, there's quite a few, the last (and assuredly fatal one) being "gdk-warning: nm-applet: fatal IO error 11 (resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0"
[07:46] <Sven_vB> klloveall, i think that is a secondary error, some program unable to use X because X already crashed. try and find a nopaste service (maybe in channel topic) and paste your error log there please, so we can see more.
[07:47] <klloveall> Is there a way to do that from terminal? Lol
[07:47] <Sven_vB> i once stumbled upon a program that does it from terminal. i'll ask apt
[07:48] <Sven_vB> "pastebinit" (package name) should be able to to that
[07:49] <bkc_> !io
[07:49] <bkc_> !ix
[07:50] <klloveall> Huh. That's awesome. It's at paste.ubuntu.com/1444743
[07:51] <klloveall> Hold on a second... Those critical errors at the bottom weren't there before.... Odd...
[07:51] <atrius> anyone seen a case where "df -h" gives wrong or stale information on an NFS mount?
[07:53] <Sven_vB> klloveall, what does "echo $HOME" say?
[07:54] <klloveall> Is says "/home/kennyloveall"
[07:54] <Sven_vB> i wonder what dconf wants with /run/user/kennyloveall/dconf then. /run/user doesn't even exist on my host.
[07:56] <klloveall> Not sure. /run/user/kennyloveall does exist, is owned by me and has permissions of 700, however it's empty.
[07:56] <chef_00>  Hi where can I find PPA of nginx-extra package , I need nginx of its stable version (1.2.x)
[07:56] <FancyPotato> I didn't see anyting in the vga list that looked familiar, and I still have the corrupted screen after using nosplash and nomodeset
[07:57] <klasa1b10> siema
[07:57] <chef_00> I essentially need nginx with all extra modules compiled in , I need latest stable version (1.2.6+) , Does anyone know which package repo has it?
[07:57] <FancyPotato> Also, setting acpi=off is what let me go through the installer.
[07:57] <klasa1b18> siemka
[07:57] <klasa1b10> loooool
[07:57] <srhb> chef_00: Huh? Is that not in the default repos?
[07:58] <srhb> chef_00: Oh, 1.2.6+...
[07:58] <chef_00> srhb, no
[07:58] <chef_00> default on my distro is 1.1.something
[07:58] <Sven_vB> FancyPotato, what did the installer do without acpi=off?
[07:59] <srhb> chef_00: Don't think there's such a PPA. You'll have to roll it yourself if you want it.
[07:59] <klasa1b10> fdsa
[07:59] <chef_00> I can see nginx (https://launchpad.net/~nginx/+archive/stable) but its useless unless I have nginx-extra (which has all the relevant modules)
[08:00] <FancyPotato> Sven_vB:  Corrupt screen in stead of installer.
[08:00] <Sven_vB> FancyPotato, you could try acpi=off as a boot option then
[08:00] <srhb> chef_00: Plus it's 1.2.4
[08:00] <FancyPotato> Sven_vB, yeah.
[08:01] <Sven_vB> however, if that does work, come back to check whether it is a heat problem. because just ignoring it might not be the best option then.
[08:01] <klasa1b18> Siema booty
[08:01] <klasa1b29> XD
[08:01] <klasa1b18> haha :)
[08:01] <srhb> chef_00: It does have the extras package though.
[08:01] <FancyPotato> Sven_vB:  Okay, I used the command vga=off and it showed the ubuntu splash screen, and then a corrupt black and white screen.
[08:01] <klasa1b29> How can I unblock flash on lesson ? (haha)
[08:01] <srhb> chef_00: So if you're fine with 1.2.4, that's great for you/
[08:02] <klasa1b18> LUBIE BOOTY
[08:02] <klloveall> Sven: I just tried making the folder myself and that got rid of those errors, so the error log now looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/1444753
[08:02] <klasa1b10> ja tez lubie boty
[08:02] <Sven_vB> FancyPotato, try and get rid of the splash screen (remove "quiet" and "splash" from boot options) so you have a chance to glimpse an error message before the screen goes corrupt
[08:03] <Sven_vB> klloveall, is that folder still empty or might there be a file "user" in it?
[08:04] <klloveall> There is...
[08:04] <klasa1b10> yyy swider to edzio listonosz bo rozwozi listy
[08:04] <klasa1b29> chyba ty
[08:04] <klasa1b18> Ale zes pojechal
[08:05] <klasa1b10> santa claus
[08:05] <cfhowlett> !ot
[08:05] <klasa1b18> Santa claus !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[08:05] <klloveall> And it contains "^@^@"
[08:05] <cfhowlett> !ops|klasa
[08:05] <Sven_vB> klloveall, I see in line 23 "Unity is not supported by your hardware." maybe you could try another window manager?
[08:05] <dacs> good morning
[08:06] <cfhowlett> dacs: greetings
[08:06] <klasa1b18> elo
[08:06] <klasa1b10> good morning
[08:06] <klasa1b10> czesc
[08:06] <klasa1b10> e;p
[08:06] <klasa1b10> elo
[08:06] <Sven_vB> klloveall, also, there's something strange with your home directory. on my systems, that dconf file is always in $HOME/.cache/dconf
[08:06] <FloodBot1> klasa1b10: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:06] <klloveall> Well it's been working for months now, so I know it can.
[08:07] <Sven_vB> klloveall, it works because unity falls back to software rendering. it could be that some software thinks your hardware supports 3D (because why would you use unity if it doesnt?), makes a 3D request and X server panics because it can't do 3D.
[08:07] <dacs> i am noticing that my ubuntu box box is taking a long time to response to anything (browsing internet, connecting to it from another pc..etc) what could be the problem
[08:08] <WXZ> are dual monitors hard to install?
[08:09] <WXZ> better yet, can I have 1 huge monitor and then split it into 4 monitors?
[08:09] <Eagleman> Does some one know why my script is working when i execute it mannualy but not when its in a cronjob?  http://pastebin.com/dcyH7d3s
[08:09] <Sven_vB> dacs, maybe system load is too high. use htop to check resource consumption of your programs.
[08:09] <klloveall> Why would that have changed? And I know it does support 3D (my hardware that is)
[08:09] <WXZ> better yet, can i assign a different workspace to each monitor?
[08:09] <Eagleman> WXZ use a chainsaw
[08:10] <FancyPotato> Sven_vB, Okay, now I just get a purple screen, then the same corrupted screen I've been seeing.
[08:10] <WXZ> Eagleman: oh no, I'm not falling for that one again
[08:10] <Eagleman> :P
[08:10] <Nimble> Eagleman, do you know what kind of error you are getting?
[08:11] <Sven_vB> FancyPotato, do you have a way to access that machine's syslog? maybe via network
[08:11] <Eagleman> Nimble no errors, it looks like its not executing the subliminal part, the timestamp on the cronpost file changes and matches the time with the cronjob
[08:12] <Nimble> huh.
[08:12] <Nimble> welp, I'm not good enough at bash to really help you then, I usually rely on errors.
[08:12] <Nimble> you say it works when you run it yourself?
[08:12] <Eagleman> Yes it does
[08:12] <Nimble> I would imagine it's some sort of file permissions issue then
[08:12] <Eagleman> It downloads subtitles for my series, it does not in the cronjob
[08:13] <Nimble> but don't quote me on that :)
[08:13] <klloveall> Sven_vB, apparently I somehow uninstalled my nvidia drivers, I'm going to reinstall those and see if that fixes the issue.
[08:13] <Eagleman> cronjob is executed as root, but it also works when i execute it as root
[08:13] <Sven_vB> klloveall, good idea. :)
[08:13] <Nimble> hm.
[08:14] <Nimble> add in some echos
[08:14] <Nimble> that append to a file
[08:14] <Nimble> so you can see which parts it runs
[08:14] <Nimble> echo "relevant info here" >> cronjob.log
[08:15] <dacs> Eagleman: did you 'chmod +x <script file>
[08:15] <FancyPotato> Sven_vB, Yeah.  We found it (we're accessing it via the recovery console).  What exactly are we looking for?  Looks like there might be some errors for the ACPI, but what strikes me is the "agp bridge not found".
[08:15] <Eagleman> -r-x------ 1 media media  405 Dec  6 17:03 cronliminal
[08:16] <ms__> hi all, I want that the info of music which I'm listening in amarok will be shown in my pidgin status. The plugin "Music Tracker" is already checked in pidgin
[08:16] <Sven_vB> FancyPotato, that's good. so now you're not dependent on the screen, you could try with acpi enabled again and look for acpi diagnostic messages.
[08:17] <klloveall> Sven_vB, well hot Damn. Somehow they were still installed but altered (I didn't think I was silly enough to uninstall them). So the installer repaired them and now I can log in again. Thank god. Lol. Thanks for all your help!
[08:17] <Sven_vB> klloveall, you're welcome :)
[08:18] <ms__>  someone can help me?
[08:19] <ms__> I want that the info of music which I'm listening in amarok will be shown in my pidgin status. The plugin "Music Tracker" is already checked in pidgin
[08:19] <Sven_vB> btw, if someone could point me to the source repo of ubiquity, i'd still appreciate that. :)
[08:20] <jussi> Sven_vB: Im gonna go ahead and guess: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk
[08:20] <gae> Hello
[08:20] <cfhowlett> gae: greetings
[08:21] <dacs> Sven_vB: two cpus and they are running at 2% max
[08:21] <FancyPotato> Sven_vB, there are no ACPI errors.
[08:21] <Sven_vB> jussi, thanks... dunno how i failed to find that.
[08:21] <jussi> Sven_vB: :D
[08:22] <Mongolski> hej
[08:22] <Sven_vB> FancyPotato, anything about thermal? (also search for "degree")
[08:23] <Sven_vB> dacs, there are more factors for system load. there should be a "load average" on the top right in htop, what does that say?
[08:23] <FancyPotato> Sven_vB, Yeah, I've got "thermal LNXTHERM:00: Registered as thermal_zone0".
[08:24] <Sven_vB> FancyPotato, is that the only thermal message?
[08:24] <dacs> Sven_vB: 0.00 0.01 0.05
[08:24] <FancyPotato> Sven_vB, Yes, that is all that grep "thermal" /var/log/syslog prints.
[08:25] <Eagleman> ./scripts/media/cronliminal: line 8: subliminal: command not found
[08:26] <Sven_vB> dacs, ok, then at least the slow reaction is not because of system load. as i checked the symptoms again, i see you mentioned only network related actions. so are offline acivities not affected?
[08:27] <Sven_vB> FancyPotato, then the good thing is, it's not the same what forced me to turn acpi off in the installer. bad thing however that then its not the same solution either. =)
[08:28] <Guest31908> .
[08:29] <dacs> Sven_vB: this is a headless box, and i get get to my webserver (hosted in that same box) but i can't ssh to it (connection times out). and it will take a huge delay to display a simple txt based html
[08:29] <Sven_vB> FancyPotato, well, then it seems to really be a driver problem. if none of the vga modes seemed similar to the old one, maybe you can still find one that works by testing some in the list?
[08:30] <FancyPotato> Sven_vB, we actually wound up getting to boot by starting it up in reduced graphics mode.
[08:30] <FancyPotato> Trying to install the drivers now, but Ubuntu is throwing a few errrors when I load the additional driver manager.
[08:30] <Sven_vB> dacs, i think you should check how busy your network cards are and busy with what. however, i don't know from head how to do that.
[08:32] <dacs> Sven_vB: i can do that with ddwrt and i am not seeing anything that is suspicious to me
[08:32] <Sven_vB> FancyPotato, then let's hope that the driver manager succeeds nevertheless.
[08:32] <dacs> Sven_vB: any ways man i just thought to ask here and maybe someone had the same symptoms as i do thats all
[08:33] <Eagleman> I guess it should work now, it was not able to find the command so i pointed it to the directory where the command is
[08:38] <FancyPotato> Sven_vB, got it fixed.  Had to install the drivers via terminal, but got it worked out.
[08:38] <FancyPotato> Thanks for all the help!
[08:40] <Sven_vB> you're welcome :)
[08:42] <LunaVorax> Hello
[08:43] <LunaVorax> I'm having some trouble to connect on the internet with Ubuntu Quantal
[08:43] <LunaVorax> It looks like a DNS problem, but it's weird, I can connect to direct IPs only but not URLs
[08:44] <LunaVorax> ex: If I type www.google.com in Firefox it just doesn't work, but it works if I write the IP assigned to it
[08:44] <LunaVorax> Same goes for otjher softwares like ping or the update manager
[08:44] <LunaVorax> I have no idea what's going wrong so far :(
[08:46] <luckyass> hi
[08:47] <luckyass> anyone in here know if ubuntu has a net install like debian but with firmware included in the net install. i only have wifi not able to hook up to ethernet for net install. i just want a bare install though
[08:48] <srhb> luckyass: Firmware?
[08:49] <KousKousKlan> OMG +1566 users!!!! probably the largest IRC channel :/
[08:49] <KousKousKlan> Who is HUMAN ? lol
[08:49] <srhb> luckyass: If you burn the mini iso and try to boot from it, you'll be able to see if it can get network capabilities. It should, for most nonesoteric cards.
[08:51] <xetius> When I copy a file to a USB Memory Stick, using the GUI, the file appears to copy really quickly, then it seems to wait, usually a lot longer than it takes to copy the file.  Is this normal?
[08:52] <vlt> xetius: What do you think how long it actually takes?
[08:52] <Eagleman> Does some one has an idea why my x11 forwarding is so slow when i am remote, it only uses like 0.5MB/sec and i have 10mb/sec bandtwidth remote, its way faster when i am in the same network
[08:52] <xetius> a 300MB file takes about 20 seconds to copy, then it waits about 5 minutes
[08:53] <xetius> so if I drag 2 files, it copies one, then waits 5 minutes, then copies the second, then waits again
[08:54] <vlt> xetius: So, 300 MB take 5 minutes. What is your question now?
[08:55] <vlt> xetius: 5'20" actually
[08:55] <xetius> vlt, The progress bar gives the impression that it is copying a lot faster
[08:55] <xetius> vlt, is this because it is copying to some kind of cache first?
[08:55] <vlt> xetius: Yes.
[08:56] <xetius> vlt, is there a way to get gnome to reflect the actual copy better?
[08:56] <vlt> xetius: I don’t know whether there’s a way to ask the kernel how much it has written already.
[08:57] <Eagleman> Does some one has an idea why my x11 forwarding is so slow when i am remote, it only uses like 0.5MB/sec and i have 10mb/sec bandtwidth remote, its way faster when i am in the same network
[08:58] <vlt> Eagleman: Have you measured those 10 MBs?
[08:58] <srhb> xetius: It is a known bug.
[08:58] <wrapids> I seem to be having a problem with xinerama and scrotwm. It seems that scrotwm is treating my dual displays as one large display, and I'm not quite sure how to go about fixing this.,
[08:59] <vlt> Eagleman: You could use something like iperf to do this first.
[08:59] <Eagleman> vlt its fiber so it wont have a lot of fluctuation
[09:00] <Eagleman> speedtest.net shows 6.55 mb/sec
[09:00] <srhb> xetius: If you want to weight in, mark yourself as affected by this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1001579
[09:01] <Eagleman> still more than enough for x11
[09:01] <srhb> xetius: Don't expect it to be fixed anytime soon though.
[09:01] <xetius> Thanks srhb, I will
[09:01] <vlt> Eagleman: But did you measure it in the right direction? Do you KNOW that there’s 10 MB/s between the X11 server and client available?
[09:03] <Eagleman> There is a max of 6 mbit at the other side
[09:03] <Eagleman> 750KB
[09:07] <Sumesh> #iphone
[09:08] <BlackPanx> can someone forward me to fix for ntp + java leap second fix ? on this new year's eve there will be leap second added probably and i dont want to hit this bug again.
[09:08] <invariant> How can I see the options of how php was compiled? They are not visible in phpinfo when run from the command line.
[09:11] <somsip> invariant: php -m any good to you?
[09:12] <invariant> somsip, no, I want to see the actual configure command used.
[09:12] <somsip> invariant: worth a try
[09:13] <vitimiti> (·.·)/
[09:13] <xetius> Which IRC client do you guys use in Ubuntu
[09:14] <Eagleman> vlt RDP seems to be way faster
[09:14] <Eagleman> I guess the x11 and vnc connection causes some overhead
[09:14] <vlt> Eagleman: It definitely is.
[09:15] <vlt> Eagleman: I still recommend measuring the actual available bandwidth.
[09:19] <Eagleman> Hmm i have to setuip several clients/servers to test iperf
[09:20] <riqdiiz> Hi all.Is there away to customize win to work like  DSL distros
[09:20] <riqdiiz> XP
[09:23] <invariant> riqdiiz, Windows is kind of off-topic here.
[09:23] <invariant> riqdiiz, and by kind of, I mean totally.
[09:24] <riqdiiz> any direction?
[09:24] <invariant> riqdiiz, not using Windows at all would be the best direction.
[09:25] <invariant> riqdiiz, failing that, buy a new computer.
[09:25] <riqdiiz> :-)
[09:26] <KousKousKlan> We all love Open Source OS.. freedom. But windows XP Pro is the best Food for a Computer machine
[09:26] <KousKousKlan> :PppPPPpp
[09:27] <My_Jone> Hello everyone
[09:27] <KousKousKlan> Ello everyone My_Jone
[09:28] <TomyLobo> hi. i did "apt-get install xrdp tightvncserver". I RDPed into that, logged in and it works ok
[09:28] <TomyLobo> ...until i try to do something
[09:28] <TomyLobo> then the session just closes
[09:29] <ouyes> DO you know any good music player to play high quality music like the ape format?
[09:29] <invariant> ouyes, do you have an example file for ape?
[09:29] <TomyLobo> the ubuntu crash reporter thing says Xtightvnc is crashed
[09:29] <My_Jone> audacious
[09:29] <invariant> audacious is not good.
[09:30] <TomyLobo> ape is a proprietary format iirc
[09:30] <TomyLobo> try flac instead
[09:30] <TomyLobo> it's also lossless
[09:30] <invariant> TomyLobo, you should really try to answer the questions that people ask.
[09:30] <ouyes> invariant, I get a few cds
[09:30] <TomyLobo> i thought i did
[09:31] <invariant> TomyLobo, if I am having a problem with my Volvo, you don't tell someone to get a Ferrari instead.
[09:31] <TomyLobo> he said "like the ape format"
[09:31] <luckyass> thanks for info above srhb i had to download the debian firmware net install my card was not detected at first not even ethernet
[09:31] <invariant> TomyLobo, which clearly meant that he had actual ape files.
[09:31] <luckyass> about to boot into it now
[09:31] <TomyLobo> maybe. but in that case, i still did answer the question
[09:31] <luckyass> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 050d:945a Belkin Components F7D1101 Basic Wireless USB Adapter v1000 [Realtek RTL8188SU] and r8712u is the driver i use
[09:32] <ouyes> actually I just bought the akg 450 headphones so I want to try it on my computer, mainly I use sony cd player
[09:32] <TomyLobo> it's a proprietary format and that means the only decoder is the one from the format's inventors
[09:32] <invariant> TomyLobo, or encoder.
[09:33] <TomyLobo> hmm it used to be that way anyway
[09:33] <invariant> TomyLobo, and even that is not true.
[09:33] <invariant> TomyLobo, there are no general rules, just rules of thumb.
[09:33] <TomyLobo> anyway, download this, fire it up in wine and convert your stuff to flac :) http://www.monkeysaudio.com/download.html
[09:34] <TomyLobo> that way you can easily play it in just about everything
[09:34] <luckyass> can someone tell me what programs i need to burn a .mp4 movie to dvd for home dvd player?
[09:34] <luckyass> do i need to convert the mp4 to something else
[09:34] <TomyLobo> dvd is inferior to mp4, so there will be some loss, luckyass
[09:34] <luckyass> ?
[09:35] <invariant> TomyLobo, you are again not answering the question.
[09:35] <TomyLobo> shush
[09:35] <luckyass> i honestly dont care about perfect hd type picture TomyLobo
[09:35] <luckyass> so can mp4 actually work on a home dvd
[09:35] <TomyLobo> i suggest winff to convert.
[09:35] <luckyass> player
[09:35] <invariant> luckyass, search for dvd authoring tools in synaptic.
[09:35] <TomyLobo> i dont remember if it has a preset for mpg though
[09:36] <invariant> luckyass, or in the software center (I don't use that).
[09:36] <TomyLobo> yeah, what invariant said is probably better
[09:36] <widowlark> hi there
[09:36] <luckyass> ok i dont use software center either. hopefully in a couple years synaptic stays
[09:36] <invariant> luckyass, that said, I recommend to everyone to reduce the reliance on optical media.
[09:36] <widowlark> I was wondering if someone could help me with IRC
[09:36] <luckyass> that was my main q though was if it HAD to be converted
[09:36] <invariant> luckyass, synaptic will likely never go away.
[09:36] <invariant> luckyass, it has 10+ million users.
[09:37] <TomyLobo> a preset for dvd*
[09:37] <luckyass> what was it though that did invariant oh it was automatix i think
[09:37] <Zehle> Where cna oyu find a chanelllist for freenode? OFF TOPIC
[09:37] <luckyass> i never got a chance to use it but screenshots it looked ok
[09:37] <ouyes> TomyLobo, I think there will be a loss during the format convert
[09:38] <Zehle> Ehere can you find a channel list for freenode?
[09:38] <TomyLobo> Zehle freenode has thousands of channels. the list is so huge that it's not really useful.
[09:38] <luckyass> so it is possible though that mp4 will be recognized by a GENERIC home dvd player?
[09:38] <TomyLobo> you'll have better luck googling for a channel :)
[09:38] <luckyass> i dont care about quality really. my tv aint that good
[09:38] <Zehle> TomyLobo: Oh, okej, I wanted to know if there was one about solar energy :P
[09:38] <luckyass> lol
[09:38] <TomyLobo> maybe #solar or #solar-energy ? :)
[09:38] <auronandace> !alis | Zehle
[09:39] <Zehle> Tomylobo: I tried some different, couldn't find any people but i'll try thoose ;)
[09:39] <TomyLobo> luckyass got an RW to try things out?
[09:39] <TomyLobo> if so, just burn the mp4 onto it and put it into your player
[09:39] <Guest1234> ciao
[09:39] <Guest1234> !list
[09:39] <luckyass> unfortunately no TomyLobo just R. that is why i was tryin to get this down pat for sure or i would do trial and error
[09:39] <TomyLobo> regular dvd-with-files
[09:39] <luckyass> just figured someone knew for sure what i needed
[09:40] <TomyLobo> try to look up your dvd player's specs on the interwebs
[09:40] <TomyLobo> to see if it supports playing mp4 video files from a data dvd
[09:40] <luckyass> thats what i am sayin though. if you know what a CHEAP ASS dvd player plays. that is it lol
[09:40] <luckyass> the cheapest of cheap
[09:40] <luckyass> lmao
[09:41] <luckyass> yeah it dont support data dvd i tried already
[09:41] <TomyLobo> ok, so get a dvd authoring thing and burn a proper video dvd
[09:41] <luckyass> so proper is mpg all the way or what?
[09:42] <luckyass> mp4 is not proper at all?
[09:42] <Ben64> Ubuntu 12.04, my dhcp server isn't starting on boot - how can I make it?
[09:42] <invariant> luckyass, you should read the manual for the devices you buy.
[09:43] <luckyass> it is just one that has sat around for couple years i cant buy nice stuff invariant  lol
[09:43] <TomyLobo> luckyass the only proper way in terms of video dvd is mpg, yes
[09:43] <invariant> luckyass, manuals can be found online.
[09:43] <TomyLobo> mpeg-2 iirc
[09:43] <invariant> luckyass, just plugin the model number in to google and you get it out.
[09:44] <Alx212>  /join #ZionOps
[09:44] <luckyass> got ya. just though there was a generic format that always plays on crap dvd players too
[09:44] <luckyass> thought*
[09:44] <Alx212>  /join #ZionOps
[09:44] <luckyass> thanks TomyLobo  i will keep mpeg2 in mind. i will just google it
[09:44] <TomyLobo> luckyass muon lists bombono, mistelix, tovid, kmediafactory, dvd styler
[09:44] <Alx212> join#ZionOps
[09:44] <luckyass> k
[09:45] <TomyLobo> use one of those tools
[09:45] <TomyLobo> the highest rated of those is dvd styler btw
[09:45] <TomyLobo> Alx212 stop advertising your channel please
[09:45] <luckyass> k. yeah TomyLobo  i just knew there were alot of programs that dont always got repo's on the machine
[09:46] <TomyLobo> luckyass huh? those are in the 12.04 default repo
[09:46] <luckyass> no no. i meant like how you can surf the web and find a program that is not in the repo
[09:46] <luckyass> there are tons of them that way
[09:46] <TomyLobo> yeah, that's why invariant told you to use the software center :)
[09:47] <pzn> I connected to ubuntu using "ssh -X", which is the name of the command to configure printers?
[09:47] <luckyass> i dont got it. thanks later
[09:48] <TomyLobo> pzn ssh -X is rather primitive. it really only does the display (and a tty)
[09:48] <notwist> pzn: if youre only running terminal commands you might as well just ssh regularly
[09:49] <pzn> TomyLobo, notwist: all I need to know is the name of the command to open the ubuntu printing configuration screen, so I can run it remotely
[09:50] <Eagleman> Why am i able to acces ( \\<IP_ADDRESS> ) every folder i shared using a windows 8 guest OS running on KVM on the same host?
[09:50] <Eagleman> Without entering credentials
[09:55] <pzn> TomyLobo, notwist: found! what I needed was "system-config-printer"
[09:56] <notwist> pzn: great :)
[09:57] <mladoux> Networking issue -- OS Ubuntu 12.10 x64 server edition, issue: I've got 4 interfaces with ipv4 addresses, but only one ipv4 address responds to interactions from a remote location. server is in sweden, i'm in the US, doesn't get much more remote. All IPv6 address react as expected. I'm not sure what relevant information you need, but feel free to ask and I will provide the data.
[09:58] <Eagleman> Why am i able to acces ( \\<IP_ADDRESS> ) every folder i shared using a windows 8 guest OS running on KVM on the same host? Without entering credentials
[10:10] <stef__> hi
[10:10] <stef__> i have a quick question
[10:10] <stef__> when will samba 4 will be in the repository
[10:12] <opalepatrick> just trying to get my head around symlinks. I am setting up arbtt for instance that requires a file ~/.arbtt/categorize.cfg however I would prefer that data to be on a partition that I can use with other distros, etc. Can I locate the file there and link to it from where arbtt expects to see it?
[10:12] <somsip> stef__: looks like it's planned for 13.04 as the 12.10 and 12.04 packages are showing beta or even alpha https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba4
[10:12] <somsip> opalepatrick: yes
[10:12] <stef__> thanks a lot
[10:13] <opalepatrick> somsip, cheers do I read up more on symlinks?
[10:13] <somsip> opalepatrick: man ln
[10:14] <mladoux> opalepatrick on the command line, I'd recommend first running the following command: man ls
[10:15] <mladoux> I'm looking for some better more detailed information for you.
[10:15] <mladoux> but that should get you started for now
[10:15] <opalepatrick> cheers somsip mladoux
[10:15] <mladoux> ln*
[10:15] <mladoux> not ls
[10:15] <mladoux> lol
[10:16] <opalepatrick> I misread it anyway! :-)
[10:16] <mladoux> lol good
[10:17] <mladoux> opalepatrick, here you go --> http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/10/linux-ln-command-examples/
[10:17] <mladoux> pretty good guide
[10:17] <mladoux> bit more english for people who don't understand man pages very well.
[10:18] <mladoux> explains what is actually happening too
[10:18] <opalepatrick> cheers mladoux that is great. man page is great but just needed a bit more hand holding
[10:19] <mladoux> no worries, we've all been there
[10:20] <Klojum> I would like some help in setting up correctly my temp directories into my ram disk. This is my fstab contents: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1444974/  How can I link/forward my temp folders to my ramdisk, so my harddisk / SSD won't have to take care of them? PC has 16GB internal memory. Thanks :-)
[10:21] <Klojum> And.. How can can verify that all is done by through the ramdisk?
[10:21] <mladoux> Klojum --> http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/11/overview-of-ramfs-and-tmpfs-on-linux/ try this
[10:22] <mladoux> I love that site, such good info.
[10:22] <Klojum> Every bit of help is welcome, thanks!
[10:22] <mladoux> I don't think it answers the whole question though, but it should be enough to get you started.
[10:23] <blami_> hi. In libreoffice, when launched from nautilus or mc menu does not appear in indicator area. Is there way to fix it?
[10:23] <Klojum> Well, I have started but not sure how to finish and doublecheck if all is correct
[10:23] <mladoux> well, type mount
[10:23] <mladoux> it should list what is mounted and where.
[10:24] <mladoux> that will verify if your ramdisk is mounted where you think it is.
[10:24] <mladoux> if it shows the ramdisk mounted at the correct place, then you did your job
[10:26] <AssWobbles> Hey big ops make a backup
[10:26] <AssWobbles> make a backup
[10:26] <AssWobbles> Hey big ops make a backup
[10:26] <mladoux> the fstab the fdisk entries look correct Klojum
[10:26] <AssWobbles> make a backup
[10:26] <mladoux> er
[10:26] <AssWobbles> Hey big ops make a backup
[10:26] <AssWobbles> make a backup
[10:26] <AssWobbles> Hey big ops make a backup
[10:26] <mladoux> why did I type fdisk in there.
[10:26] <FloodBot1> AssWobbles: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:26] <DJones> AssWobbles: Stop that
[10:26] <AssWobbles> make a backup
[10:26] <Klojum> mladoux: FYI, here is the mount listing:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1444984/
[10:26] <AssWobbles> Hey big ops make a backup
[10:26] <Eagleman> haha
[10:27] <mladoux> Klojum, looks like you did it proper
[10:27] <mladoux> I think you're good
[10:27] <Klojum> :-)
[10:27] <mladoux> see lines 14 - 17
[10:27] <mladoux> those match what's in your fstab.
[10:27] <mladoux> that means that it's working.
[10:28] <Klojum> Okay... Can you also tell if any temp files by Ubuntu will be handled in the ramdisk?
[10:28] <mladoux> well, as long as you put them to those paths, it will be