[03:54] <lysis> that is not in apt.  where would i find it for ubuntu?
[03:54] <freelove> in upgrades i see linux-image something......should i upgrade that?
[03:54] <bulio> i cant get internal
[03:55] <bulio> this PC only has 1 internal slot
[03:55] <dooglus> bulio: I have an external HD.  a Maxtor 250Gb one.  it doesn't work with ubuntu
[03:55] <robotgeek> bulio: you can get internal, and use a external usb convertor :)
[03:55] <Linuturk> robotgeek, it's dual boot on this machine. give me a minute and i'll log in with another machine
[03:55] <robotgeek> Linuturk: hmm, one sec
[03:55] <dooglus> bulio: it has both USB2 and FireWire interfaces.  Neither works for more than 1Gb or so of transfer.
[03:55] <bulio> maybe I could just get internal
[03:55] <robotgeek> Linuturk: better download the source for linux-wlan before you reboot
[03:55] <bulio> I could get internal, replace this one
[03:55] <Linuturk> robotgeek, source?
[03:55] <dooglus> bulio: it would be cheaper too
[03:56] <Linuturk> robotgeek, where?
[03:56] <robotgeek> Linuturk: i'm pulling up the url, one sec
[03:56] <bulio> but then I would need to upgrade from ubuntu 4.10 to 5.04 to 5.10 :(
[03:56] <dooglus> bulio: or just download or order 5.10
[03:56] <bulio> burnt 6 CDs of breezy, all had debootstrap errors
[03:56] <dooglus> bulio: did you check the md5sum?
[03:56] <intelikey> bulio i've used small hd's and been forced to 'trim ship' many times just to get an install to work.  it is a real pain, specally for a beginner.    you will break things you didn't know existed....   and learn by the 'try it, and reformat' methood is ugly with a capital UG
[03:57] <bulio> is it hard to install a new internal HD?
[03:57] <bulio> I'll need to replace this one
[03:57] <robotgeek> Linuturk: give me a minute, i'm trying to confirm a few things. however, download this ftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/linux-wlan-ng-0.2.3.tar.gz and store it on a USB stick
[03:57] <bulio> thanks guys
[03:57] <intelikey> no it's pretty easy to put drives in a box.
[03:57] <dooglus> bulio: perhaps you could copy your current install onto the new disk before removing the old disk
[03:58] <bulio> how?
[03:58] <dooglus> bulio: you can put 2 devices on a single IDE cable
[03:58] <bulio> because this PC has only one hard drive slot
[03:58] <BoukenPink> It's too bad my ISP's site is no help at all, aside from: "If you need help, try looking at these linux sites."
[03:58] <intelikey> provided the cable has three plugs ^
[03:58] <dooglus> bulio: you don't need to have a drive in a slot for it to work
[03:59] <intelikey> hehhe i've installed os's with the hd lying on the ps  :)
[03:59] <foampeace> where do i put this line options nvidia NVreg_EnableAGPSBA=1 NVreg_EnableAGPFW=1 NVreg_ReqAGPRate=8
[03:59] <chapium> ack
[03:59] <BoukenPink> I have no idea what to do. >.>
[03:59] <dooglus> BoukenPink: do you remember how you set up the windows box?  did you set a fixed internal IP address when you were doing the port forwarding setup?
[03:59] <bulio> so I just take out the old HD, put in new one
[03:59] <bulio> put in ubuntu disk
[03:59] <Linuturk2> robotgeek, can we go to pm? this client doesn't have autocomplete :(
[03:59] <bulio> and bot up?
[04:00] <chapium> My cd drive is on the fritz.  I can boot from it, but I cannot get the installer to finish.  Is there a way to get everything installed over the net?
[04:00] <bulio> *boot
[04:00] <dooglus> bulio: that would be the easiest way, yes.  but you'd lose your current data
[04:00] <bulio> ok
[04:00] <bulio> this is an emachines etower 533
[04:00] <bulio> I think its got only 1 drive bay
[04:00] <foampeace> ANYONE know where to put this for module nvidia --> options nvidia NVreg_EnableAGPSBA=1 NVreg_EnableAGPFW=1 NVreg_ReqAGPRate=8
[04:00] <BoukenPink> dooglus, there was a set up program, and then there's like this website thing for the port forwarding.
[04:01] <intelikey> i think you'll find other internal bays bulio
[04:01] <dooglus> BoukenPink: do you intend to use the Windows box and the ubuntu box at the same time?  Or is it a single dual-boot box?
[04:01] <BoukenPink> dooglus, it's dual-boot.
[04:01] <dooglus> BoukenPink: so this is what you need to do:
[04:01] <robotgeek> Linuturk: sorry, was away.
[04:02] <dooglus> BoukenPink: boot into XP, find out what IP address it uses on your LAN, then boot into ubuntu and set it to use the same IP address
[04:02] <bulio> in etower 533i?
[04:02] <BoukenPink> dooglus, sounds simple enough... :3
[04:02] <dooglus> BoukenPink: or, if you like, to avoid booting into XP, look at the router's port-forwarding config, and see where it's currently forwarding bittorrent packets to, and set your IP address to match
[04:02] <Linuturk> robotgeek, it's ok, can we go to pm?
[04:02] <Linuturk> aka, query?
[04:03] <dooglus> don't do it, robotgeek.  he'll start talking dirty to you.
[04:03] <Linuturk> Seveas, hey, and hello
[04:03] <intelikey> bulio  i think so.  but you own the box and i can't see through the inet connection to look inside  :)
[04:03] <BoukenPink> dooglus, how do I do the IP address setting part?
[04:03] <Linuturk> dooglus, that's only to you :-P
[04:03] <Jinkguns> Hi, I have a bit of a dilemma, I need to use a custom kernel (to compile special kernel modules to run a Scanning Tunneling Electron Microscope) but I also need to use Direct Rendering for 3D information display. As I understand it, the custom kernel option dosen't support the fglrx package which I normally use to enable direct render. Do I have any other options?
[04:03] <dooglus> BoukenPink: you click on 'system' at the top of the screen, then 'admin', then 'networking'
[04:03] <robotgeek> dooglus: :)
[04:03] <freelove> in upgrades i see linux-image something......should i upgrade that? PLZ SAY!
[04:04] <Linuturk> Jinkguns, aren't you on Relic ?
[04:04] <dooglus> freelove: yes
[04:04] <dooglus> freelove: then you'll need to reboot, too
[04:04] <s0n1cm0nk3y> can someone tell me how to get mplayer to use skins ive downloaded for it?
[04:04] <Jinkguns> The only Relic I know is a game development company. ;)
[04:05] <dooglus> BoukenPink: then select your network interface, click properties, select 'static' in configuration and supply the other fields it asks for
[04:05] <Hyperlink> crimsun: My sound is working now. Worked after a reboot.
[04:05] <Linuturk> Jinkguns, right, Relicnews. Are you on their irc now and then?
[04:05] <Hyperlink> crimsun: Thanks for all your help man. I really appreciate it.
[04:05] <freelove> dooglus: is the upgrade neccessary? any benefits?
[04:05] <crimsun> Hyperlink: good.
[04:05] <dooglus> freelove: it's a security thing I think
[04:05] <Jinkguns> Yes. Before I was banned off the network. ;)
[04:06] <Linuturk> jinkguns, well, i'm still there :-P
[04:06] <intelikey> howto use 'yes' for an app's readline ?
[04:06] <dooglus> freelove: is this a new breezy install?  'cos the kernel update was a long time ago now.
[04:06] <Jinkguns> For discussing windows warez, no less.
[04:06] <Jinkguns> Closing Link: Jinkguns[adsl-69-210-27-217.dsl.lgtpmi.ameritech.net]  (User has been banned from HWCommunity (You are banned from this network))
[04:06] <intelikey> app < yes        ?
[04:06] <dooglus> freelove: it's from 22nd November, right?
[04:07] <bulio> thanks guys
[04:07] <bulio> I'll buy a new HD
[04:07] <freelove> dooglus: yes , yes:)
[04:07] <Jinkguns> So uh, any ideas on what i should do?
[04:08] <CA|Ne> Anybody who have time to answere a question on grub?
[04:08] <BoukenPink> dooglus, could it have anything to do with the hostname of my linux partition being different than the XP partition?
[04:08] <Jinkguns> I might, CA
[04:08] <intelikey> CA|Ne not until you ask it.
[04:08] <CA|Ne> hehe
[04:08] <CA|Ne> ...
[04:09] <s0n1cm0nk3y> anyone know?
[04:10] <freelove> dooglus: i hope it wont make my system unbootable!
[04:10] <CA|Ne> After I have installed ubuntu x86 and try to boot I get a grub 17 error and when I alter the "plug and play" os thing in the bios i only get a grub error 21... What is wrong?
[04:10] <chapium> anyone here have experience with installing ubuntu from floppy? (debian floppy anyways)
[04:10] <ubuntu> h
[04:10] <ubuntu> h
[04:10] <ubuntu> h
[04:10] <ubuntu> h
[04:10] <ubuntu> h
[04:10] <ubuntu> h
[04:10] <ubuntu> hh
[04:11] <ubuntu> hh
[04:11] <adam_> when i go into terminal and type command to load vid drivers it says permission denied
[04:11] <Jinkguns> spambot, fire in the hole.
[04:11] <intelikey> s0n1cm0nk3y should be as easy as putting them in the right dir and clicking on the options button     but i've not tried it.
[04:11] <Jinkguns> CA, have you tried googling the error codes?
[04:12] <s0n1cm0nk3y> intelikey where is this directory?
[04:12] <erika> Tells me I don't have permission. Guess I don't understand root as well as I thought I did. I installed this thing 2 days ago. I followed the install instructions. It asks me for my password when I do the things you tell me to do. Then it doesn't do them and tells me I don't have permission.
[04:12] <adam_> help please
[04:13] <dooglus> BoukenPink: it could, indeed, depending on how your router decides where to forward the packets to.
[04:13] <CA|Ne> if CA is me... I have googled and think that error 17 is something about the file system... I think ntfs for winxp on the first hdd is screwing grub up :p
[04:13] <dooglus> BoukenPink: of course, you can use a different port for the ubuntu OS if you want to
[04:13] <intelikey> s0n1cm0nk3y idk    'find /use -name <some sike that is already installed> '
[04:13] <dooglus> BoukenPink: bittorrent will run on any port you like - it doesn't have to be 6881
[04:13] <adam_> how do u get permission
[04:13] <intelikey> errr usr  not use ^
[04:14] <dooglus> freelove: the update should leave your current kernel installed, and available as "ubuntuOLD" on the boot menu
[04:15] <erika> This is the newbie IRC, right?
[04:15] <mobus> what do youmean by newbie IRC?
[04:15] <adam_> does anyone know how to overide "permission denied" prompt
[04:15] <EasterSunshine> does anyone know how to start X with all colors inverted?
[04:15] <mobus> run program with SUDO in front of it in the command line
[04:15] <freelove> dooglus: ok....thanx
[04:16] <intelikey> hehhe i login as root to fix things like that adam_
[04:16] <Jinkguns> CA|Ne, check your grub config file in boot, check what the default boot entry points to.
[04:16] <MrMazda> CD help screens don't say how to get into rescue boot mode. How is that done?
[04:16] <intelikey> but that is not the recomended way.
[04:16] <erika> I mean I'm brand new to Linux, and the support link for new Ubuntu users was to this room.
[04:17] <bshumate> erika: you are probably in the right place for help with Ubuntu, yes.
[04:17] <adam_> mobus: who are u talking to
[04:17] <erika> Well... it wasn't a link. I know how to use IRC... and just about everything else in the world there is to know about using a puter.... except Linux. ;)
[04:18] <CA|Ne> Jinkguns: How can I get acess to edit grub? I am a beginner...
[04:18] <mobus> adam_ you
[04:18] <CA|Ne> hmm... type error...
[04:18] <adam_> mobus: how do i do that
[04:18] <jenco> Ok i got a wierd question ;p, my ati card and my intergrated card do not like each other in linux and when i install my ati card the hotplug module causes a kernel panic how would i blacklist my intel intergrated card from hotplug? ~if that even makes sence :P
[04:19] <jenco> p.s. i can't turn off my intergrated card in the bios or thru jumpers
[04:19] <InfoLibre[Frank] > Hello. Can I install any packages on a running Ubuntu LiveCD?
[04:20] <Dattas> hello, i have a question, on v. 5.10, i just installed it but when i try to login to my root account it says i have the wrong password, is the password no longer the password you set for the first user?
[04:20] <dabaR_> InfoLibre[Frank] : any, or one?
[04:20] <InfoLibre[Frank] > One.
[04:20] <dabaR_> sure, go ahead.
[04:20] <bshumate> !tell Dattas about RootSudo
[04:20] <InfoLibre[Frank] > I mean, an unmodified Ubuntu LiveCD.
[04:20] <dabaR_> InfoLibre[Frank] : do you understand installation with ubuntu?
[04:20] <intelikey> !root
[04:20] <ubotu> The root password by default is disabled in Ubuntu. You can use sudo to get super user (root) privileges. For more information, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[04:20] <erika> bsh... thanks. I tried linspire... didn't like the way it picked my pocket. I tried Mepis... the iso didn't boot. I tried Damn Small Linux... it worked great, I made friends in the IRC... but it's a toy, not a desk. I LIKE Ubuntu... but I'm lacking tools. I'm googling, but I also frustrated.
[04:20] <InfoLibre[Frank] > With apt-get, yes.
[04:20] <dabaR_> InfoLibre[Frank] : ya, go ahead.
[04:20] <dooglus> adam_: put "sudo" in front of the command to run it as root
[04:21] <adam_> ok thank you
[04:21] <InfoLibre[Frank] > And also I'd like to modify the GDM configuration... Can I just change it and restart gdm?
[04:21] <dooglus> Dattas: the root password is locked by default.  you can "sudo -i" to become root.  use your own password
[04:21] <dabaR_> InfoLibre[Frank] : sure, go ahead. there is a gdm config tool in the menus.
[04:21] <Dattas> thanks much
[04:21] <jenco> how would i blacklist my video card or can i even do that with hotplug?
[04:22] <InfoLibre[Frank] > actually, I'm not even sure there's a GDM on the liveCD. I just want to allow X11 TCP connections, and by default there's a DisallowTCP=true which I don't like
[04:22] <dooglus> erika: what tools are you lacking?
[04:22] <InfoLibre[Frank] > Oh, and one last thing. I know it's a LiveCD, but is there a mechanism for persistence of these settings between reboots, using say a USB flash disk, or even better network storage?
[04:22] <CrazyNorman> My friend has alsa-utils, alsa-base installed, yet has no alsaconf binary anywhere.
[04:22] <bshumate> erika: it takes a good deal of time, and patience most of all.  it is worth it to pursue though.  you can usually get good help in this channel with most all things Ubuntu related.  ask and ye shall receive is the way it (usually) works...
[04:22] <dooglus> InfoLibre[Frank] : it's /etc/gdm/gdm.conf , the gdm config file.  I don't know if the live cd uses gdm either
[04:22] <sethk> hmm., eth0 and eth1 in the network configuration dialog are reversed.
[04:22] <dabaR_> InfoLibre[Frank] : that will not have to do with gdm, x11 forwarding wont, that is.
[04:23] <erika> dooglas... tools I cannot buy. The tools I need in my head to put it all together.
[04:23] <Manderson> Anyone know if the repositories have firefox 1.5 yet?
[04:23] <dooglus> dabaR_: it does have to do with gdm
[04:23] <InfoLibre[Frank] > It's not x11 forwarding, it's the DisallowTCP setting of GDM.
[04:23] <dabaR_> InfoLibre[Frank] : I do not know personally about the settings thing. Also, do you want to just forward X over ssh?
[04:23] <InfoLibre[Frank] > Nah, no SSH.
[04:24] <dooglus> dabaR_: he wants to have X listen on a port.
[04:24] <InfoLibre[Frank] > I want to use the machine to extend my desktop with synergy
[04:24] <InfoLibre[Frank] > and to be able to run remote applications on my main machine and have them display on the liveCD machine
[04:24] <InfoLibre[Frank] > And this setup works great right now with ubuntu installed on my HD
[04:24] <Chris_Tucker> how can i turn a .zip into a .img?
[04:24] <dooglus> InfoLibre[Frank] : using ssh and forwarding is the better way to do it, of course...
[04:25] <dooglus> Chris_Tucker: mkisofs?
[04:25] <dooglus> Chris_Tucker: sorry.  I misread.
[04:25] <dooglus> Chris_Tucker: what is a .img?
[04:25] <InfoLibre[Frank] > dooglus, no it's not. SSH uses a lot of CPU power and my laptop is weak. Also, this is home and I control the machines. I don't want security because it increases latency and requires way too much CPU power.
[04:25] <Chris_Tucker> dooglus, such as a floppy image? (bootable)
[04:25] <erika> thanks bash... I understand that. I'm a former pilot for a major airline... a former VP for a major UG. I deal with tech stuff well.... but I'm finding Linux to be very frustrating.
[04:25] <dooglus> InfoLibre[Frank] : fair enough then :)
[04:26] <CA|Ne> Jinkguns: How can I get acess to edit grub? I am a beginner...
[04:26] <dooglus> erika: is there anything specific?
[04:26] <intelikey> well crap.  i still cant get gpm to start on boot....
[04:26] <dabaR_> erika: you mean you are finding Ubuntu frustrating, or the kernel?
[04:26] <erika> LOL
[04:26] <Manderson> Anyone know if the repositories have firefox 1.5 yet?
[04:26] <Manderson> All I see is version 1.07
[04:26] <erika> no... I'm just ranting
[04:26] <_jason> Manderson, they do not
[04:26] <Manderson> crap crap.
[04:26] <InfoLibre[Frank] > What do you people think about the HPN patches for OpenSSH?
[04:27] <Manderson> Thanks jason
[04:27] <erika> I do like Ubuntu tho... it's the best linux I've used to date.
[04:27] <CA|Ne> How can I get acess to edit grub?
[04:27] <mobus> thats what they all say
[04:27] <dooglus> Chris_Tucker: maybe mkisofs then, but I don't know what format floppy images are in.
[04:28] <me> I want to 'mount' a Windows drive. Here is fdisk of it.
[04:28] <wims> what's the package for mp3 support etc
[04:28] <me> Disk /dev/hdc: 2000 MB,<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes
[04:28] <me> 64 heads, 63 sectors/track, 969 cylinders
[04:28] <me> Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 = 2064384 bytes
[04:28] <me>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[04:28] <me> /dev/hdc1   *           1<PHONE_NUMBER>+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[04:28] <wims> gstreamer-somthing?
[04:28] <CA|Ne> Are there a page on internet about grub?
[04:28] <l0s3rk1d> hi.. after i install ubuntu.. it wont boot.. i see black screen
[04:28] <dabaR_> ubotu: tell wims about mp2
[04:28] <dabaR_> ubotu: tell wims about mp3
[04:29] <dooglus> me: make a directory to mount it on, then "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdc1 /your/mount/dir"
[04:29] <mobus> me: mount -o uid=<yourusername /dev/hdc /mnt windows
[04:29] <me> Hey thanks dooglus - will try that now
[04:29] <dabaR_> CA|Ne: you can try google, I am sure there are many.
[04:29] <InfoLibre[Frank] > Another thing entirely... Does Ubuntu have the ability to log on a Samba/LDAP domain and automatically mount a series of network shares and printers, like a Windows client logging on the same network with roaming profiles would do?
[04:29] <dooglus> CA|Ne: the file to edit is /boot/grub/menu.lst.  use "sudo gedit" to edit it
[04:30] <me> and thanks mobus too
[04:30] <Cody`> can anyone tell me how to make mplayer use ESD?
[04:30] <_jason> ubotu, tell Cody` about mplayer
[04:30] <dooglus> mobus: will that work?  /dev/hdc is the whole disk, not a partition.  is it the same as the first partition?
[04:30] <_jason> Cody`, read the bottom of the link ubotu sent you
[04:30] <erika> I think of the kernel as being this indeterminal underlying thing that makes it all work. It boggles my mind. Are there people here that truly understand how the kernel works?
[04:30] <CA|Ne> dooglus: I don't even think I can access anything... Because of the errors! Can I use a live cd to try access the file?
[04:31] <l0s3rk1d> hi.. after i install ubuntu.. it wont boot.. i see black screen.. anyone pleas help?
[04:31] <durt> is it possible to get yahoo mail working in opera's mail client? what should the server settings be?
[04:31] <dooglus> Cody`: put "ao=esd" in ~/.mplayer/config
[04:31] <Cody`> ty
[04:32] <dooglus> CA|Ne: can you boot into ubuntu?
[04:32] <jenco> well i will figure it out after work tommorow i guess gnight peps =)
[04:33] <dooglus> !mplayer
[04:33] <ubotu> I guess mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[04:33] <CA|Ne> dooglus: Nope when I select to boot from my 3rd disk there ubuntu is installed I only get the message: Grub error 17 (or 21)
[04:34] <Knowerrors> anybody here use xawtv?
[04:34] <erika> Is ubotu a bot?
[04:34] <adam_> help! ubuntu keeps shuting my pc off
[04:34] <dooglus> CA|Ne: if you boot from an install CD, you can use control-alt-F2 to get to a terminal prompt, from where you can mount your ubuntu boot partition and edit grub/menu.lst
[04:34] <dooglus> erika: yes
[04:34] <erika> ahhhh.... I see ;)
[04:35] <dooglus> !tell erika about ubotu
[04:35] <dabaR_> dooglus: try mentioning how to get back, this way he may have to reboot.
[04:35] <dooglus> dabaR_: read what I wrote again - he won't want to get back
[04:35] <mobus> !tell mobus about ubotu
[04:35] <erika> Ubuntu is very cool. I'm impressed to the max.
[04:35] <techrush> hi
[04:36] <mobus> erika: that's what Ubuntu is here for
[04:36] <rosen> hey again
[04:36] <dooglus> hi
[04:36] <Linuturk> hey, what was the command I added to allow the reading of the NTFS windows partition?
[04:37] <rosen> is there an equivalent to netlimiter for linux ?
[04:37] <adam_> please anyone help me. my monitor pc keeps shuting off
[04:37] <dabaR_> Hi, what did I eat for lunch? ;) Linuturk
[04:37] <adam_> not monitor my pc
[04:37] <rosen> adam_, pay your electric bill
[04:37] <mobus> Linuturk probably chmod 444 /your/path/to/windowspartition
[04:37] <erika> I shouldn't have let my name dump into the chat.... but I want to be open. Maybe we'll be friends.
[04:37] <adam_> yeah
[04:37] <dabaR_> mobus: for reading?
[04:37] <Linuturk> it mounts already
[04:37] <dabaR_> erika: you and who?
[04:37] <mobus> sry 111
[04:38] <mobus> thanks dabaR_
[04:38] <dabaR_> mobus: man chmod:P 1 is execute. Also, there is a new way, a+r allows read for all. And, that is not very likely what he did.
[04:38] <intelikey> i recon it is ok to rm hdparm  from the startup list ???  there is no special need for it is there ?
[04:38] <mobus> no
[04:38] <adam_> never mind i'll fix it myself
[04:38] <mobus> 4 is execute
[04:39] <Linuturk> it was something i should add to fstab
[04:39] <mobus> 3 is rw
[04:39] <mobus> 2 is w
[04:39] <mobus> 1 is r
[04:39] <Linuturk> and it involved 0002
[04:39] <Linuturk> and some other thing
[04:39] <mobus> and 7 is rwx
[04:39] <mobus> 5 is wx
[04:39] <dooglus> rosen: try running this: "apt-cache search shaper"
[04:39] <Linuturk> it says I don't have the permissions to view that drive
[04:39] <intelikey> in chmod ?
[04:39] <mobus> no rx
[04:39] <mobus> 6 is wx
[04:39] <rosen> will do dooglus thanks
[04:39] <johnblackhorse> Linuturk: change the permissions in your fstab
[04:40] <erika> I don't understand the protocal here. Actually, I have't done IRC since before 95. Is brown text important?
[04:40] <Linuturk> to what? and where is fstab?
[04:40] <intelikey> 1=x 2=w 4=r    and add them up it's binarry.
[04:40] <dooglus> mobus: r=4 w=2 x=1
[04:40] <mobus> /etc/fstab
[04:40] <mobus> I think
[04:40] <mobus> prbably wrong
[04:40] <mobus> dooglus wrong man
[04:40] <johnblackhorse> ubotu: tell Linuturk about fstab
[04:40] <dooglus> mobus: hmmm
[04:40] <erika> Brown seems to be personal
[04:40] <dabaR_> mobus: read the manual.
[04:40] <mobus> you got it backwards
[04:41] <dooglus> mobus: which manual are you reading?
[04:41] <intelikey> mobus no dooglus was correcting you just like i was.
[04:41] <khermans> I can't record sound, but it is coming from my mic and I hear it on the speakers -- I'm using grecord2
[04:41] <mobus> The Linux BIBLE!!!
[04:41] <mobus> a.k.a. CGI
[04:41] <mobus> handbook
[04:41] <dooglus> mobus: r=4 and 4=r are the same thing.  equality is symmetric, so it doesn't matter if you get it backwards.
[04:41] <mobus> no
[04:41] <mobus> by backwards I meant
[04:41] <dooglus> mobus: what matters is if you get it wrong, like what you keep doing
[04:41] <mobus> r=1 w=2 and x=4
[04:41] <khermans> Anyone know why I have issues with recording sounds, if it can be heard passing through from mic to speakers?
[04:42] <intelikey> mobus you are dead wrong on that.
[04:42] <dooglus> mobus: I know that's what you mean, but you're wrong.  why don't you just try it?
[04:42] <intelikey> try it.    chmod 001 file  then read that file.
[04:42] <dooglus> mobus: touch x; chmod 444 x; ls -l x | awk '{print $1}'
[04:43] <mobus> FINE YOU WIN!
[04:43] <mobus> oh now I remember
[04:43] <mobus> I think it was WSFTP that tould me numeric permissions
[04:43] <intelikey> lol
[04:44] <mobus> so that's why my 444 permissions wouldn't execute....
[04:44] <intelikey> yep
[04:44] <intelikey> that's why.
[04:44] <mobus> okeydokeythen
[04:44] <dooglus> Linuturk: you're thinking of umask=0 I guess
[04:44] <dabaR> mobus: they have that new system, with xwr which is easier to remember sometimes.
[04:45] <dooglus> Linuturk: a umask is like the numbers that mobus was talking about, but inverted
[04:45] <intelikey> umask subtracts the number given from 7  so umask=2  is mod=5
[04:45] <johnw> where is the .wmv plugin for mplayer/
[04:45] <johnw> ?
[04:46] <intelikey> !codecs
[04:46] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[04:46] <khermans> Anyone know sound problems?
[04:46] <crimsun> khermans: generally.
[04:46] <dooglus> khermans: we all run ubuntu - of course we know sound problems - we experience them every day :)
[04:46] <khermans> crimsun, i can hear my voice going through the mic an out the speakers, but grecord2 wont record it
[04:47] <khermans> also, audacity reports issues as well
[04:47] <lysis> anybody here try to install LMMS yet?   i'm having a great GREAT deal of dependency problems. :(
[04:47] <batteri> hey guys, would anyone help me install the font tahoma.exe in my .wine directory
[04:47] <lysis> i'm new to the whole dpkg system . . .   is there something like apt-get for the dpkg debian system?  or a way to add all the files on debian's massive site to repositories?  anything . . .
[04:48] <khermans> lysis, hrmm i hadnt heard of it == im gonna try this once i get sound working
[04:48] <dooglus> lysis: apt-get IS for the debian system
[04:48] <intelikey> lysis yes apt-get
[04:48] <batteri> cmon anyone
[04:48] <lysis> well then why is apt-get not finding any dependencies when i try to install them individually for lmms?
[04:48] <dooglus> batteri: are you sure that fonts come in .exe files?
[04:49] <lysis> lmms requires certain things, so i tried to apt-get them and it didn't work, so then i tried downloading them individually and it turned into a big mess and i had to remove all the unfinished dpkg installations.
[04:49] <james> can anyone in here tell me or help me with setup up my java for firefox
[04:49] <khermans> batteri, try executing it, or try cabextract
[04:49] <dooglus> lysis: "sudo apt-get install lmms" - that has problems?
[04:49] <lysis> dooglus, yes.  it doesn't work.
[04:49] <james> and i need help with my ndiswrapper
[04:49] <crimsun> khermans: what sort of audacity issues?
[04:49] <lysis> can't find it.
[04:49] <khermans> james, follow the wiki restrictedformats directions, you dont need to set it up manually
[04:49] <intelikey> yeah .exe looks like a self-extracting zip archive to me
[04:49] <Toran> hey guys, I'm having a slight problem- whenever I get to the GDM login page in ubuntu it is not at the same resolution as when I'm in my account. In my Xorg.conf file I've removed all the resolutions from the Mode line except 1600x1200, but to no avail. Any suggestions on fixing this?
[04:49] <techrush> lysis lmms isnt worth using anyways..its a crappy program
[04:49] <khermans> crimsun, no sound at all can be recorded
[04:49] <james> trying to setup my wireless card
[04:49] <dooglus> lysis: it seems to work for me.  it says: The following extra packages will be installed:
[04:49] <dooglus>   libqt3-mt libsamplerate0 libsdl-sound1.2 lmms-common
[04:50] <batteri> i need to move in to the folder, but it says i dont have the rights
[04:50] <batteri> it*
[04:50] <lysis> it isn't found by apt-get
[04:50] <crimsun> khermans: do you stop esd before launching it?
[04:50] <james> <--------------- needs help
[04:50] <dooglus> lysis: apt-get finds in it the breezy-backports repository for me
[04:50] <lysis> and then i downloaded it and dpkg -i it and now it's IN apt-get because it's all messed up.  ARGH
[04:50] <intelikey> !repos
[04:50] <ubotu> it has been said that repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[04:50] <dooglus> lysis: maybe you need to add that, I don't know
[04:50] <khermans> crimsun, how?
[04:50] <techrush> james i used easy ubuntu to get my java working in firefox
[04:50] <lysis> i have all the sources . . .
[04:50] <khermans> crimsun, i tried disabling sound events, etc
[04:50] <james> how do i do that
[04:51] <james> tech how do i use easy ubuntu
[04:51] <dooglus> lysis: you've got something wrong, or it would find it
[04:51] <khermans> dooglus, lmms isnt in the repos
[04:51] <lysis> dooglus, like i said; it couldn't find it and now my apt-get is all messed up.
[04:51] <dooglus> khermans: it's in breezy-backports
[04:51] <uscfan> hey everyone
[04:51] <techrush> james: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64629
[04:51] <khermans> dooglus, oh...
[04:51] <uscfan> hey everyone
[04:52] <khermans> dooglus, im not risking killing my libc today ;-)
[04:52] <lysis> dooglus, apt-get shows lmms because i tried to dpkg -i the program and it wouldn't because i didn't have the right dependencies and it failed the install, then all the dependencies sucked and i couldn't install them or something.
[04:52] <lysis> bad experience . . .
[04:52] <james> tech do you know how to use ndiswrapper
[04:52] <Toran> hey guys, I'm having a slight problem- whenever I get to the GDM login page in ubuntu it is not at the same resolution as when I'm in my account. In my Xorg.conf file I've removed all the resolutions from the Mode line except 1600x1200, but to no avail. Any suggestions on fixing this?
[04:52] <lysis> techrush, if LMMS sucks, what do you recommend?  i want a sequencer.
[04:52] <lysis> like fruity loops.
[04:52] <techrush> no james luckily my laptop uses madwifi
[04:52] <techrush> lysis: seq24
[04:52] <techrush> or hydrogen if you just want drums
[04:52] <dooglus> lysis: "sudo apt-get -f install" should fix it
[04:52] <crimsun> khermans: uncheck System> Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup
[04:53] <khermans> i did that too, but do i need to logout and back in?
[04:53] <batteri> Look guys, please. I need to install the fonts to wine, but it says i dont have the rights to the folder, so i cant paste the files in there. anyone who knows how i can unlock the folder?
[04:53] <crimsun> khermans: nope. Ok, what sound card are you using?
[04:53] <lysis> 3 not fully installed or removed.
[04:53] <lysis> Need to get 300kB of archives.
[04:53] <lysis> After unpacking 1293MB disk space will be freed.
[04:53] <lysis> You are about to do something potentially harmful.
[04:53] <lysis> To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'
[04:53] <khermans> crimsun, still fails
[04:53] <khermans> crimsun, nforce3 laptop
[04:53] <khermans> builtin
[04:53] <dooglus> batteri: put "sudo" in front of whatever command is failing
[04:53] <lysis> i guess that didn't work as planned. . .  sorry for the paste.
[04:53] <james> ok tech
[04:53] <batteri> dooglus,  it isnt about that
[04:54] <james> well i need help with my wifi
[04:54] <khermans> crimsun, snd_intel8x0
[04:54] <james> i have a network everywhere NWP11B
[04:54] <james> ATX100
[04:54] <khermans> crimsun, it has worked on here in Warty
[04:54] <uscfan> i got a bit of a problem... I have had windows xp installed for a long time and its began to get loaded with crap.  So now I was going to backup all my data, reformat and install ubuntu and windows. So i got a 2.5'' to 3.5'' ide adaptor and connected my laptop hard drive to my sisters computer to ba
[04:54] <uscfan> ckup all my data. It worked fine so then I returned the hard drive to my laptop to reformat and install windows and ubuntu. The only problem, my bios does not detect the hd any mroe. The HD still works in my sisters computer though, and ubuntu live can read all my data and listen to all my music. Also, windows xp installs and ubuntu installs but the bios never boots the HD. Anyone know of this problem, anyone know how i might go abo
[04:54] <blockweg> blockweg
[04:54] <uscfan> ut fixing it?
[04:54] <khermans> crimsun, and also possibly Hoary
[04:54] <batteri> i need to paste the font inside the folder
[04:55] <athauglas> hey everyone.
[04:55] <dooglus> batteri: you're telling me you don't have permission to write to a folder, and asking how to get permissions.  "sudo" should do that.
[04:55] <crimsun> khermans: ah, are you using a custom ~/.asoundrc ?
[04:55] <khermans> crimsun, sound goes in through the mic and out the speakers just fine, so everything is getting to where it should -- but i cant record it
[04:55] <crimsun> khermans: or /etc/asound.conf ?
[04:55] <Mike_2> When upgrading to the newest kernel has anyone had their system hang at "hotplug subsystem"? Everything works fine until I get to that item, then the boot GUI drops and system hangs
[04:56] <khermans> crimsun, no -- i dont think anything has been changed here
[04:56] <batteri> dooglus, and where am i supposed to do that? This is btw the first time i use linux
[04:56] <crimsun> khermans: make sure you've selected the proper mic _and_ capture in alsamixer
[04:56] <Linuturk> my boot gui drops when it goes to network devices
[04:56] <crimsun> khermans: sorry, but the coffee shop is closing, so I need to go
[04:56] <khermans> crimsun, i definitely did
[04:56] <david_m_e> i have been using a KVM switch to switch back and forth between my ubuntu box and my xp.  I just remembered that linux can string ouy terminals and that windows comes with a terminal program. so, i need to know what all i will need; a serial cable(i have a null modem), how to redirect one of the consoles(eg ctrl-alt-f?) to the rs232 port on the -ix box, and how to get ubuntu's gui started
[04:56] <khermans> crimsun, i get an error in audactiy, but not in grecorded
[04:56] <Mike_2> MIne doesn't even get to that part
[04:56] <ApX> anyone know of a good dark theme?
[04:57] <athauglas> I'm using an IBM T43, and am having trouble with the wireless card.  I can find networks but I cant connect to any, even unprotected ones.  Ideas? =/
[04:57] <BenC> david_m_e: You cannot run the GUI over the serial cable
[04:57] <dooglus> batteri: I don't know, sorry.  I've never installed executable fonts before.
[04:57] <james> tech how do i use easy ubuntu
[04:57] <Mike_2> Whats wierd is if I drop down to a prev. kernel everything works fine
[04:57] <amilcar> I'm trying Ubuntu for the first time..... I'm a long time redhat user....
[04:57] <techrush> james its a script...just click on it and select run in terminal
[04:57] <amilcar> How can i change the refresh rate of my monitor, for God sake!
[04:57] <BenC> Mike_2: what kernel version has the problem? 2.6.12-10?
[04:58] <david_m_e> BenC; thanks; too much data, i assume; what would work better?
[04:58] <james> i dont get that for an option
[04:58] <james> you mean when i dl it
[04:58] <BenC> david_m_e: FInd a commercial or free Xserver for Windows
[04:58] <amilcar> Fedora detects all the resolution and refresh rates supported by my monitor...
[04:58] <techrush> yes after you download it
[04:58] <amilcar> ubuntu don't.
[04:58] <Mike_2> BenC: Yep, 2.6.12-10, 2.6.10x works fine, no hang at subsystem
[04:58] <BenC> david_m_e: or start X with vncserver
[04:59] <amilcar> and X is showing some noise....
[04:59] <BenC> Mike_2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSystemCrash
[04:59] <james> it dont give me an option to run
[04:59] <james> all it does is open it and lets me view it
[04:59] <Mike_2> BenC: Thanks, i'll peer through that doc.
[05:00] <david_m_e> benc, you lost me... i assume xserver is a program; what i am asking is: if i am right, and a serial connection is too slow, what do i do? find a program (such as xserver that just exchanges the necessary data - not echo the entire screen image), or, use a higher speed hardware link?
[05:00] <Linuturk> also, my windows NTFS partion is automounting, and it shows up under /media/ ; I'm being told that I don't have permission to read the drive
[05:00] <Linuturk> i was told adding something to the fstab file
[05:00] <johnblackhorse> Linuturk: you'll need to change the perms in your fstab
[05:00] <BenC> david_m_e: the serial console is not a matter of speed, it's a matter of that it does not do graphical interfaces
[05:00] <james> tech you still there
[05:00] <BenC> david_m_e: it is text only
[05:00] <intelikey> this is way past being anoying.  anyone here good with init scripts ?
[05:00] <Linuturk> i've got fstab open
[05:01] <Linuturk> what do I add to the hda1?
[05:01] <athauglas> Linuturk - you dont.  all you can do is view its contents, and to do that, go to system >> administration >> disks
[05:01] <intelikey> i need a linux hack master.
[05:01] <johnblackhorse> Linuturk: paste your fstab to a pastebin and i'll modify it for you there
[05:01] <david_m_e> benc: so, you are saying that if i press ctrl-alt-f1 to get the 1st console, there is no way to start using a gui (as i am right now) ?
[05:01] <johnblackhorse> !paste
[05:01] <ubotu> from memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:01] <BenC> david_m_e: if you want to use the ubuntu graphical interface from another computer, that other computer will need an Xserver, and a network connection
[05:01] <batteri> can anyone else tell me how i can get writing rights to my .wine folder?
[05:02] <dooglus> batteri: "sudo chown batteri ~batteri/.wine"
[05:02] <batteri> dooglus, thank you
[05:02] <BenC> david_m_e: you cannot use ctrl+alt+f1 over serial console, it is just one console (not multiple like you do with the monitor)
[05:02] <intelikey> batteri if it's a linux native   just chown it.
[05:02] <durt> yay! FreePOPs is amazing
[05:02] <Linuturk> john, I can't paste it, my ubuntu doesn't have net connect :(
[05:02] <david_m_e> benc: sorry, was just called to dinner, thanks for everything
[05:03] <batteri> intelikey, i dont have any idea of what that means, but it sounds good as hell
[05:03] <intelikey> batteri exactly what dooglus told you.
[05:03] <johnblackhorse> Linuturk: i'm at work atm, so am without my main box. (i'm forgetful without my notes)
[05:03] <amilcar> please, any ideas on how can i set the correct refresh rate of my display????
[05:03] <Linuturk> i can query it to you?
[05:04] <johnblackhorse> Linuturk: ok
[05:04] <fangorious> I seem to have messed up keyboard mappings, the zero/right-paren key, not numpad, this is a laptop, seems to no longer work except in numlock mode
[05:04] <uscfan> hey all
[05:04] <uscfan> i got a bit of a problem... I have had windows xp installed for a long time and its began to get loaded with crap.  So now I was going to backup all my data, reformat and install ubuntu and windows. So i got a 2.5'' to 3.5'' ide adaptor and connected my laptop hard drive to my sisters computer to ba
[05:04] <BoukenPink> My damned internet hates me.
[05:04] <uscfan> uscfan ckup all my data. It worked fine so then I returned the hard drive to my laptop to reformat and install windows and ubuntu. The only problem, my bios does not detect the hd any mroe. The HD still works in my sisters computer though, and ubuntu live can read all my data and listen to all my music. Also, windows xp installs and ubuntu installs but the bios never boots the HD. Anyone know of this problem, anyone know how i might
[05:04] <uscfan>  go abo
[05:04] <uscfan> uscfan ut fixing it?
[05:04] <intelikey> batteri i would sujest you brush up on the chown and chmod commands.    man chown ;man chmod
[05:05] <fangorious> seems home/end don't work for their normal functions either, but I can use the Fn key to effect their extra functions (scroll/num lk
[05:05] <fangorious> is there a way to reset the Keyboard Shortcuts to a default set?
[05:05] <uscfan> can anyone hear me?
[05:05] <uscfan> jeez
[05:06] <fangorious> uscfan, no, but I can read your messages
[05:06] <uscfan> why is taht
[05:06] <uscfan> why can i not speak to everyone?
[05:06] <uscfan> to prevent noobies from spamming and stuff ;) ??
[05:07] <fangorious> uscfan: no, you aren't heard because there's no audio on irc, i'm sure everyone else can read your messages too
[05:07] <uscfan> ooooh
[05:07] <uscfan> i meant
[05:07] <uscfan> can anyone hear me as in, can anyone read my messages
[05:07] <fangorious> uscfan, yeah. it was a failed attempt at being witty
[05:07] <fangorious> (on my part
[05:07] <adam_> my screen keeps going black
[05:07] <uscfan> this is strange because my name is greyed out in xchat and no one but you seems to be hearing me
[05:08] <joedj> uscfan: we can all here you in here
[05:08] <joedj> gah, hear
[05:08] <fangorious> uscfan: quite often, it nobody has an answer to your question, nobody replies to you
[05:08] <uscfan> jeez ok thanks, i thought i was going insane
[05:08] <ordinary> no one save exception is responding to you, as well as me, uscfan
[05:08] <varsendagger>  uscfan i can here you
[05:08] <intelikey> uscfan there may be a way to manuelly set the hd in the bios have you checked for that ?
[05:08] <ordinary> uscfan, should be finre
[05:08] <uscfan> i have tried, my bios doesnt detect the hd at all
[05:08] <linas5> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[05:08] <linas5> argh
[05:09] <fangorious> anyone? resetting Keyboard Shortcuts to default?
[05:09] <uscfan> which is wierd, because ubuntu and winxp install to it, and i can read and edit data on it from ubuntu live right now
[05:09] <linas5> i get that after doing sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:09] <linas5> any ideas how to fix this thing?
[05:09] <intelikey> uscfan not an autodetect.  manual setup for the hd ?
[05:09] <fangorious> uscfan, so what's the problem if all your OSes can read/write?
[05:09] <intelikey> not sure what bios you have.....
[05:09] <uscfan> the bios doesnt detect it, and therefore doesnt initiate boot to hte drive
[05:09] <adam_> help my screen keeps going black
[05:09] <durt> linas5: do you have the restricted  modules?
[05:09] <kevinix> hi all, i have booted into the live cd on my system to do a grub-install as i've moved around hard-disks.. after chrooting i 'grub-install /dev/hda' but am given the error "/dev/hdb1 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive." there's only one disk on the machine. any ideas?
[05:10] <varsendagger> hey how do you add rss to thunderbird, i want to add slashdot
[05:10] <fangorious> linas5: did you get the ndiswrapper to go with the kernel you're running?
[05:10] <fangorious> adam_: screen saver?
[05:10] <adam_> no even when im doing something
[05:10] <varsendagger> anyone
[05:11] <linas5> fangorious, huh?
[05:11] <uscfan> F2 is bios, and within the bios i cant do anything to help the situation
[05:11] <uscfan> imma just download smartbootmanager and try and see what i can do with that
[05:11] <intelikey> uscfan have you entered the bios setup on that lappy before ?
[05:11] <fangorious> linas5: you're trying to load a kernel module and it's failing. i was wondering if you grabbed the ndiswrapper which was compiled for the version of the kernel you are running
[05:11] <kevinix> should i try moving to lilo?
[05:11] <me> I run 5.04 hoary and have downloaded 5.10 and copied to CD (readable).  Is it safe to boot from the CD and install 5.1 over 5.04?
[05:12] <uscfan> i got another question though, how difficult would it be to get my wireless card (onboard) working within ubuntu. Its some broadcom chipset
[05:12] <linas5> fangorious, i used whatever synaptic gave me
[05:12] <fangorious> linas5: probably safe then
[05:12] <linas5> argh
[05:12] <linas5> but why wont it load the kernel module
[05:12] <intelikey> ok at least you have tried to set it up mannually uscfan
[05:12] <intelikey> and pardon my lag time.
[05:12] <fangorious> linas5: have you looked /var/log/dmesg or /var/log/messages for something more detailed?
[05:13] <BoukenPink> I just want working bittorrent~ Is that so much to ask...
[05:13] <durt> linas5: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[05:13] <linas5> nope
[05:13] <BoukenPink> But my internet has to be all... Blah blah
[05:13] <Jinkguns> ARGH.
[05:13] <uscfan> intelikey, my bios will not let me manually configure the hard drive. IT doesnt even detect it at all so I cant
[05:13] <Agedec> Hey wow my internet is actually working now :S
[05:13] <linas5> durt, my wifi card that im trying to get ndiswrapper for is my only way to connect to the internet...
[05:13] <Jinkguns> THIS IS THE THIRD INSTALL OF UBUNTU THAT WAS RUINED. :/
[05:13] <Jinkguns> Freakin' ati driver. :/
[05:13] <Cimmerian> wow
[05:13] <Jinkguns> I bet it's agp locked pages.
[05:13] <Agedec> Sounds like when i was running Suse...i had to re-install it so much
[05:14] <durt> linas5: it should be on the cd then
[05:14] <Jinkguns> Has to be it
[05:14] <linas5> but this module thing isnt working
[05:14] <adam_> jinkguns: whats hapening
[05:14] <fangorious> Jinkguns: what card are you running? i have a fire gl v5000 in my laptop that works great with the 'latest ati driver' howto
[05:15] <intelikey> uscfan yes. ok.  some bios's have options....  some don't.      uscfan maybe remove the drive turn power on let it try to boot power off and insert the drive.   that might 'jog' the bios into noticing it.
[05:15] <fangorious> anyone have any ideas on Keyboard Shortcuts, turning on numlock just to get a '0' is really irritating, and it's only been 5 minutes that i've noticed the problem
[05:15] <Jinkguns> fangorious, I'm installing the fglrx packages, running fglrxconfig and then everything locks up. Ati 9250.
[05:15] <Jinkguns> I believe.
[05:15] <Linuturk> is there a place to download a repository to save to a usb pen? I need linux-wlan-ng
[05:16] <fangorious> Jinkguns: have you looked at the howto on ubuntuforums about how to build deb packages of the latest ati drivers?
[05:16] <intelikey> dl the whole repo ?????
[05:16] <Linuturk> just the package for linux-wlan-ng and linux-wlan-ng-doc
[05:17] <Linuturk> the precompiled stuff for ubuntu
[05:17] <Aven> how do you set a root pass ?
[05:17] <fangorious> BoukenPink: problem with a NAT or something?
[05:17] <varsendagger> Aven,  you don't use sudo
[05:17] <Linuturk> Aven, root pass is the pass you set for your account
[05:17] <varsendagger> Sudo!
[05:17] <Jinkguns> Hrm, no I haven't.
[05:17] <intelikey> BoukenPink me to.   i'm flustered.
[05:17] <me> I run 5.04 hoary and have downloaded 5.10 and copied to CD (readable).  Is it safe to boot from the CD and install 5.1 over 5.04?
[05:17] <varsendagger> Linuturk, not really
[05:17] <Aven> yes, but there's a PHP script that requires mysql
[05:17] <Aven> and only 'root' user can be used
[05:17] <johnblackhorse> ubotu: tell Aven about root
[05:17] <fangorious> Jinkguns: I recommend it, it's worked really well for me. I can even suspend/hibernate
[05:17] <Linuturk> not really in how varsendagger?
[05:17] <Aven> so I need the root password
[05:17] <BoukenPink> fangorious, bittorrent doesn't want to accept incoming connections. :3
[05:18] <johnblackhorse> Aven: i suspect there is a workaround for mysql and it's narrowminded ness
[05:18] <varsendagger> aven you will need to edit /etc/passwd
[05:18] <intelikey> aven sudo passwd
[05:18] <Agedec> YES...after a full days of staggering slow work i got WoW to work....correctly
[05:18] <Aven> ah, ty intelikey
[05:18] <intelikey> np
[05:18] <fangorious> Aven: check the wiki, I'm sure there's a howto for setting a root password
[05:18] <linas5> argh
[05:18] <linas5> this thing sucks
[05:19] <intelikey> fangorious it's 'sudo passwd'
[05:19] <varsendagger> Linuturk, the root password is not your password
[05:19] <fangorious> intelikey: well that's just too easy
[05:19] <intelikey> lol
[05:19] <varsendagger> or am i talking out of my ass?
[05:19] <BoukenPink> On windows, I just fixed it in port forwarding, and it's using the same ports on linux.
[05:19] <Linuturk> can someone download these two packages for me? linux-wlan-ng and linux-wlan-ng-doc ?
[05:19] <Jinkguns> I'm supposed to be building a 12 million dollar Apple Supercomputer Cluster for a State Nanotechnology Research Center and I can't even install ati drivers on ubuntu. :/
[05:19] <Agedec> Hey guys, what are some good native games I could try out?  Just got everything working with graphics and all, need to test em out :?
[05:19] <fangorious> BoukenPink: did you enable a firewall under linux?
[05:20] <fangorious> Linuturk: what good would it do you if one of us downloads them?
[05:20] <Linuturk> email them to me
[05:20] <Linuturk> or dcc
[05:20] <intelikey> Linuturk can't you dl them ?
[05:20] <intelikey> go to the repo and save as
[05:20] <fangorious> Linuturk: I'm confused, if you can receive them as email or dcc, why can't you download them?
[05:20] <nothingman> anyone here have Balazar running?
[05:20] <Linuturk> my ubuntu doesn't have net access, b/c i need those packages
[05:21] <Linuturk> in order to get those packages, i need net access
[05:21] <Linuturk> but I can download them to my windows
[05:21] <Linuturk> and then usb pen them over
[05:21] <linas5> ugh
[05:21] <intelikey> Linuturk go to the repo and dl them from windows
[05:21] <fangorious> Linuturk: so download them on the machine you're on, save them to USB, and go
[05:21] <linas5> SOMEONE FIX MY DAMNED NDISWRAPPER
[05:21] <Linuturk> ok
[05:21] <Linuturk> where do I download them?
[05:21] <intelikey> !repos
[05:21] <ubotu> methinks repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[05:21] <intelikey> the list is there ^
[05:22] <BoukenPink> fangorious, not that I'm aware of.
[05:22] <fangorious> Linuturk: start from us.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:22] <intelikey> do a /msg ubotu info package       and the bot will search for them for you.
[05:22] <intelikey> Linuturk ^
[05:22] <varsendagger> how do i jsut downlaod the packages with apt-get?
[05:23] <varsendagger> *just
[05:23] <fangorious> BoukenPink: try 'sudo iptables -L' to make sure
[05:23] <intelikey> varsendagger get the info on it and wget it.
[05:23] <durt> did you manage to get those restricted modules yet linas5?
[05:23] <varsendagger> what kind of info?
[05:23] <linas5> wtf durt?
[05:23] <linas5> =P
[05:23] <intelikey> file name and repo to get it from
[05:24] <varsendagger> ohh
[05:24] <BoukenPink> It says... like... policy ACCEPT for all of them (INPUT, FORWARD, OUTPUT)
[05:24] <fangorious> BoukenPink: sounds like there's no firewall :
[05:25] <intelikey> you can add * wildcard in wget     like  wget http://us.ubuntu.com/hoary_main/thisfile*
[05:25] <g00r0n> how to i get rid of wifi manager asking : "enter password for default keyring to unlock"
[05:25] <fangorious> BoukenPink: after launching your BT client, do a netstat -lnt to see if there's anything listening on the configured port
[05:25] <ejofee> how do i force "sudo -i" also accept connections to x11 server?
[05:25] <durt> linas5: in synaptic, search for restricted, and install (from the cd) "linux-restricted-modules-yourkernel" where yourkernel is the output of (in a terminal) uname -r
[05:25] <linas5> durt, that restricted modules thing....would it be on the cd? =P
[05:25] <linas5> errr
[05:25] <linas5> thanks
[05:26] <intelikey> ejofee if you are trying to run X as root the gdm.conf will deny the login unless you edit it.
[05:26] <fangorious> linas5: could you maybe browse us.archive.ubuntu.com to find the linux-restricted-modules package for your kernel, download it, and save it to a USB drive or CDRW or something?
[05:27] <linas5> im sure i could....but that would be too much work =P
[05:27] <durt> i think its on the cd though
[05:27] <linas5> it is
[05:27] <ejofee> intelikey: i don't intend to run x11 as root, i only want to run apps using x11
[05:27] <fangorious> linas5: assuming you haven't done a kernel upgrade since installing
[05:28] <ejofee> intelikey: that is, using an x11 which doen't necessarily belong to root
[05:28] <linas5> argh
[05:28] <linas5> same error
[05:28] <intelikey> ejofee have you tried 'sudo openvt -sc 12 bash ' ?
[05:28] <JRlinux> Why is it that I have decried the automatic update feature in Windows-- but rather like it in ubuntu?  Can't figure that out.
[05:29] <linas5> WHY DO THESE THINGS HATE ME
[05:29] <fangorious> one final time before my battery goes, anyone know how to reset the Keyboard Shortcuts to default, a handful of keys stopped working after I tried to change some shortcuts, and still don't work even after deleting all the shortcuts I adjusted
[05:29] <erika> When I put a CD in my CDrom why does Juicer come up? It plays fine, but I would think CDPlayer would come up. I don't want to rip my CD... I want to listen to it!!! BTW... My  CD player is usless at this point. I have to listen to my CDs with juicer.
[05:29] <ejofee> intelikey: no. trying. (thanks.)
[05:29] <fangorious> linas5: because you yell
[05:29] <intelikey> that should give you a root console on tty12 that root owns
[05:29] <linas5> oh well
[05:29] <linas5> fangorious, so if i stop yelling it'll work?
[05:29] <intelikey> :)
[05:30] <fangorious> linas5: i would do a smiley, but my zero key doesn't work, so i have no close-paren
[05:30] <linas5> lol
[05:30] <SuPeRmAn> hey hey
[05:30] <fangorious> linas5: would have been funnier if you asked in all caps
[05:30] <intelikey> fangorious turn your head the other way....
[05:30] <BoukenPink> I think it just hates me.
[05:30] <fangorious> intelikey: i'm just joking around :
[05:30] <durt> might help: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[05:31] <intelikey> (:
[05:31] <force> I have a headless ubuntu server, I would like to set it up as a VNC server, what will be required in order to do this?
[05:31] <linas5> ssh?
[05:31] <bhearsum> i'm getting sweet glibc errors after upgrading to dapper. invalid pointers on various things, including xfce4-panel
[05:31] <fangorious> force: vncserver
[05:31] <oknewbie> hows it going tonight all
[05:31] <intelikey> tightVNC ???
[05:31] <SuPeRmAn> u mean today...
[05:32] <SuPeRmAn> Lol
[05:32] <oknewbie> which ever
[05:32] <SuPeRmAn> where u at???
[05:32] <SuPeRmAn> im in australia..
[05:32] <fangorious> well, my battery is down to ten percent, time to go
[05:32] <oknewbie> Oklahoma US
[05:32] <BoukenPink> Damned blocked incoming connections and my inability to fix it...
[05:32] <SuPeRmAn> sweet..
[05:32] <fangorious> linas5: GOOD LUCK!!!
[05:32] <erika> It's just soooooooooooooo frustrating
[05:32] <intelikey> well i'm tired of messing with problem #2 i'll work on problem #3 for a while...
[05:32] <durt> are you one of those crazy muslims in cronulla, superman?
[05:33] <force> fangorious: will there be any specific setup of xorg or xfree86 in order to use the vncserver?
[05:33] <SuPeRmAn> NO!!!
[05:33] <SuPeRmAn> lol im in brisbane..
[05:33] <oknewbie> any one here know how to mount anouther partition inside of ubuntu gnome
[05:33] <SuPeRmAn> nowhere near cronulla..
[05:33] <fangorious> force: nope
[05:33] <force> cheers
[05:33] <fangorious> force: unless you want something fancier than twm with a single xterm
[05:34] <SuPeRmAn> so...
[05:34] <SuPeRmAn> say 'i' if u have 5.10
[05:34] <linas5> wow
[05:34] <Jinkguns> i
[05:34] <SuPeRmAn> i
[05:34] <dooglus> SuPeRmAn: I think it's spelled "aye"
[05:34] <jamie> sup
[05:34] <force> ideally ;)
[05:34] <jamie> anyone
[05:34] <SuPeRmAn> hi there..
[05:34] <quail_linux> here is a cake for a computer geek's birthday  http://www.nickscipio.com/funstuff/archive12/images/gingerbreadpc.jpg
[05:34] <jamie> hey
[05:34] <wims> nay
[05:34] <erika> hey.... I googled into an Iraqi Linux chat last night. Scarey... but they seemd to know code.
[05:34] <jamie> i am running a new edubuntu machine
[05:35] <ejofee> intelikey: openvt doesn't seem to have anything to do with running an app which needs an(y) x11 server
[05:35] <SuPeRmAn> kool
[05:35] <jamie> yeh
[05:35] <jamie> i am happy
[05:35] <linas5> i had no idea
[05:35] <jamie> but for some reason
[05:35] <SuPeRmAn> hahaha   lol nice nerd cake....
[05:35] <jamie> nothing will run on it
[05:35] <intelikey> ejofee what error you gettin ?
[05:35] <jamie> has anyone heard of a show called Red vs Blue
[05:36] <SuPeRmAn> yep..
[05:36] <SuPeRmAn> i love it..
[05:36] <jamie> iit won't run on my machine
[05:36] <jamie> for no reason
[05:36] <SuPeRmAn> oh really...
[05:36] <SuPeRmAn> hm...
[05:36] <Jinkguns> its the codecs
[05:36] <jamie> do i have to download quicktime
[05:36] <SuPeRmAn> coulde be the quicktime..
[05:36] <scanwinder> anyone know a good program to play midi files?
[05:36] <Jinkguns> needs win32 codecs.
[05:36] <SuPeRmAn> yesw u do..
[05:36] <jamie> oh
[05:36] <SuPeRmAn> unless u download a windows emulator..
[05:36] <jamie> it will auto matically run on totem
[05:36] <jamie> but nowhere else
[05:37] <SuPeRmAn> then use the ones in wmv format..
[05:37] <jamie> i can't
[05:37] <Jinkguns> mplayer will play it
[05:37] <jamie> i don't have mplayer
[05:37] <SuPeRmAn> ahh there ys go..
[05:37] <robert__> I am having trouble with an ensoniq sound card.  All I get is an incessant drum beat.  Does anyone have any ideas?
[05:37] <SuPeRmAn> um... download it..
[05:37] <jamie> from....
[05:37] <SuPeRmAn> um hang on ill brb ill go and see where u can download it from
[05:37] <jamie> ok
[05:37] <jamie> thnks
[05:38] <linas5> uh oh
[05:38] <linas5> how do i edit a read only file?
[05:38] <luciano_> Is there a program to manage the modules I want to load at startup?
[05:38] <ULffuntu> does anyone here ubuntu ppc with an imac
[05:38] <jamie> hahaha all these ppl are having trubl with their machines
[05:38] <Agedec> Would somone be able to help me out with a Wine problem?
[05:38] <jamie> i have an e MACHINE
[05:38] <jamie> i might
[05:38] <linas5> i have a dell lappy
[05:38] <linas5> =x
[05:39] <jamie> Agedec:i might
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> I got a C64.
[05:39] <wims> c64 rocks
[05:39] <ejofee> intelikey: i am getting no error... it's just that i am sent to the vt12 (text terminal) where i can obviously run no x11 app
[05:39] <ULffuntu> c64 does rock
[05:39] <erika> I get incessent drum beats all the time. I think it's my insanity monitor messing with me.
[05:39] <wims> i got one too, and a c128
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> I got a Timex Sinclare with the 4K Memory expansion! :P
[05:39] <SuPeRmAn> JAMIE...
[05:39] <SuPeRmAn> found it..
[05:39] <jamie> yeah
[05:39] <Agedec> Well, I get wow running perfectly, but when i download the patch, and it has to restart the program, it crashes out, termenal closes, and im none the wiser
[05:39] <SuPeRmAn> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html
[05:39] <durt> luciano: /etc/hotplug/blacklist and /etc/modules work
[05:39] <quail_linux> i got a xbox running linux
[05:39] <ULffuntu> does anyone here ubuntu ppc with an imac
[05:39] <SuPeRmAn> wtf..
[05:39] <jamie> lol awesome
[05:39] <jamie> how
[05:40] <SuPeRmAn> xbox + linux = crazy..
[05:40] <ejofee> scanwinder: still there?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> ULffuntu,  ihad an ImacDV with Ubuntu on it for a while.
[05:40] <robert__> So far ubuntu works great except for the soundcard.
[05:40] <Agedec> anyone know?
[05:40] <nickrud> Dr_Willis, did you do 'paste buttons to the membrane' trick?
[05:40] <rosen> doesnt most of the modchips for xbox run linus ?
[05:40] <scanwinder> ejofee: yes
[05:40] <rosen> linux .. aswell
[05:40] <ULffuntu> Dr_Willis: ok great, did you trouble with the screen resolution
[05:40] <ejofee> scanwinder: ok. do you know how to use soundfonts?
[05:40] <jamie> ROBERTL i had the same problem
[05:40] <robert__> what is the solution
[05:40] <erika> I have a ts9900 monitor running z80 code
[05:40] <scanwinder> ejofee: no...what are soundfonts?
[05:40] <ULffuntu> mine is stuck on 1024x768
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> ULffuntu,  cant get the screen centered corrct? and the console is like 3 chars to the left?
[05:41] <luciano_> How can I uninstall a Nvidia sound driver?
[05:41] <quail_linux> xbox linux wiki = http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page
[05:41] <linas5> so....how do i edit this read only file?
[05:41] <linas5> =P
[05:41] <jamie> SUPERMAN:what do i download
[05:41] <ULffuntu> Dr_Willis: the screen is centered, just no other options besides 1024x768
[05:41] <dooglus> linas5: "sudo gedit /path/to/file" ?
[05:41] <SuPeRmAn> the source code...
[05:41] <SuPeRmAn> ok GTG bye bye
[05:41] <wims> linux on xbox .... finally something useful to use my xbox to :)
[05:41] <Agedec> Would Cedega(WineX) be worth subscribing to, over Wine?
[05:41] <nothingman> anyone here have an ov511 camera working?
[05:41] <jamie> bye bye
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> ULffuntu,  Hmm.. never noticed.. I think my iMAC DV - was toped out at that res anyway.
[05:42] <ejofee> scanwinder: all you have to do is to "sudo apt-get install qsynth" and then download a soundfont and add it to qsynth. that's all. then you can use qsynth in any application you're using for playing / sequencing midis (kmidi, rosegarden, noteedit)
[05:42] <ULffuntu> Dr_Willis: I'm using a red iMac Dv (for the first time)
[05:42] <luciano_> I've installed Wine, and when I try to install a game, it shows me some errors, like unhandled exception, or something like that. Can anyone help me?
[05:42] <durt> agedec: no, its worth stealing though...
[05:42] <quail_linux> xbox = a 733MHz celly pc
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Mine was  Graphite one. :P
[05:43] <ejofee> scanwinder: i am trying to find a link to soundfonts.
[05:43] <ejofee> scanwinder: ok?
[05:43] <ULffuntu> Dr_Willis: But you never had trouble adjusting your screen res?
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> luciano_,  may want to google for wine and that game. and see if theres some options to use.
[05:43] <Agedec> how so
[05:43] <Agedec> ?
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> ULffuntu,  i cant recall ever changeing the res. Mine was so off centered.. i gave up on Ubuntu on it.
[05:43] <jamie> SEVEAS: are you there
[05:44] <luciano_> Dr_Willis_, but it does it with almost every game
[05:44] <jamie> lol
[05:44] <ULffuntu> Dr_Willis: Yeah, I hear you. It's ok but I wish I could adjust
[05:44] <scanwinder> ejofee: im just tryin 2 get the file 2 play now....
[05:44] <jamie> so is this like a help server
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> luciano_,  Cedega may work better..  Ive had poor luck with wine/cedega and most games.
[05:44] <johnblackhorse> ubotu: tell ULffuntu about xcfg
[05:44] <ejofee> scanwinder: of course, if you do this, you will get a nice soft synthesizer. i prefer soft synthesizers because of hardware independence.
[05:44] <ejofee> scanwinder: in which player do you want to play it?
[05:44] <intelikey> Q; does the modprobe command make any changes in /etc ?
[05:45] <linas5> Omnitech Fortress Server / Dual Pentium 3 / Xeon 700 MHz / 1 GB/ (10 X 9.1 GB) / NIC / USB / adaptec RAID / CD-ROM / DDS tape drive
[05:45] <linas5> awww man i want that
[05:45] <linas5> just so i can say my server is a fortress =P
[05:45] <luciano_> Dr_Willis, nop, I tried Cedega with the same results. I guess it has something to see with any module or library, but I can't figure it out. Has someone the same problem?
[05:45] <scanwinder> ejofee: i dont mind what player...........im getting errors in all of them
[05:46] <ejofee> scanwinder: run kmidi now
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> luciano_,  what game? check the cedega forums is the place to start would be the best bet.
[05:46] <scanwinder> ejofee: is it in the repositories?
[05:46] <intelikey> oh ejofee i just caught up....  in the terminal 'sudo <desired X app> '  doesn't do what you are wanting to do ?
[05:46] <luciano_> Ok, but it does it with all games
[05:46] <jamie> who here is a DJ!
[05:46] <ULffuntu> johnblackhorse: Hi, I tried that last night but it didn't help. My modeline settings are missing in my xorg.conf though
[05:46] <Jinkguns> how does one install ati drivers in a custom kernel? :/
[05:47] <scanwinder> ejofee: dosent seem to be in the repositories....gimme a min, ill find a repository with it
[05:47] <jamie> i g2g guys bye
[05:47] <Jinkguns> cya jamie
[05:47] <dell500> so how exactly can i install winblows on a second partition on my primary drive?
[05:47] <dell500> or secondary drive that is
[05:47] <jamie> wait one test
[05:47] <jamie> me slaps someone
[05:47] <jamie> ok it didn't work
[05:47] <jamie> bye
[05:47] <intelikey>  /me
[05:47] <ejofee> intelikey: no, i want to open a root console (by sudo -i), but i can't run any x11 app from it. i guess now it's all clear
[05:47] <jamie> g-night form CA
[05:47] <aTypical> Hello, everyone.
[05:47] <ejofee> scanwinder: maybe kmid includes it?
[05:47] <jamie> lol it works
[05:48] <dooglus> ejofee: use "sudo -s" if you want to keep your environment
[05:48] <luciano_> Does anyone know a program to manage modules?
[05:48] <dooglus> ejofee: then you'll be able to run X apps
[05:49] <intelikey> luciano_ modprobe ?
[05:49] <intelikey> lsmod
[05:49] <luciano_> yes, but I like a dialog-type menu
[05:49] <ejofee> dooglus: yes... but i would prefer not to mix envs... :(
[05:49] <intelikey> rmmod
[05:50] <scanwinder> ejofee: i installed kmid and, it says its playing the file except i dont hear anything
[05:50] <ejofee> dooglus: i would prefer to somehow "emulate" a root env
[05:50] <dooglus> ejofee: you can "xhost -" to turn off authentification on the X server if you like, but that's not a good idea
[05:50] <ejofee> scanwinder: of course you hear nothing
[05:50] <dell500> anyone know hwo to install winblows after linux?
[05:50] <dell500> on a secondary drive
[05:50] <ejofee> scanwinder: now comes the fun part: get your cool soft synthesizer
[05:50] <dooglus> ejofee: the only 3 env. vars you need are DISPLAY, XAUTHORITY and SESSION_MANAGER
[05:50] <intelikey> ejofee just own your home before you exit
[05:50] <scanwinder> ejofee:..so what do i do?
[05:50] <ejofee> scanwinder: "sudo apt-get install qsynth"
[05:51] <scanwinder> ejofee: yeh, i installed that
[05:51] <linas5> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu#1_-_Install_Ubuntu_Hoary
[05:51] <linas5> errm
[05:51] <linas5> oops
[05:51] <ejofee> scanwinder: ok, you have to activate the qsynth engine
[05:51] <ejofee> scanwinder: have you?
[05:52] <scanwinder> ejofee: yes...but i got an error "Qsynth: Failed to create the audio driver(jack).
[05:52] <intelikey> brain storm.   could you ln -s /home/<user>/.xauthority /root/.xauthority and do it that way.... ?
[05:53] <ejofee> scanwinder: use alsa
[05:53] <intelikey> ejofee symlinks ? ^
[05:53] <linas5> what do i put for hostname?
[05:53] <phiqtion> nalioth: busy
[05:53] <phiqtion> nalioth: busy?
[05:53] <ejofee> intelikey: thanks. i will try that
[05:54] <scanwinder> ejofee: how do i set it to use alsa?
[05:54] <aTypical> When I start supertux in fullscreen mode I have a 2 1/2 inch banner around the screen.  Does anyone know how to fix this?
[05:54] <ejofee> scanwinder: (kmid should rather be closed in the meantime)
[05:54] <phiqtion> is there any guide that can show me how to use dvdrip?
[05:54] <yubimusubi> Anyone have any experience with avidemux on ubuntu?
[05:54] <aTypical> black banner that is.
[05:54] <ejofee> scanwinder: setup / audio
[05:54] <ejofee> scanwinder: setup / audio / audio driver
[05:54] <intelikey> ejofee it may not work and you may end up with root owning your users xauth files but you can always rm them and X will make new ones.
[05:55] <yubimusubi> And if no one knows avidemux, is there another way to burn video DVD's on Ubuntu? (I've been googling a lot)
[05:55] <intelikey> does kb3 do dvd ?
[05:56] <ULffuntu> happy holidays everyone
[05:56] <dooglus> intelikey: it does
[05:56] <ULffuntu> thanks for the help Dr_Willis
[05:56] <ejofee> intelikey: it's k3b. and yes, it does.
[05:56] <dooglus> intelikey: (assuming you mean k3b)
[05:56] <intelikey> yeah that was like 'teh'   :)
[05:56] <phiqtion> is there any guide that can show me how to use dvdrip?
[05:57] <linas5> for the interfaces configuration thing it says "wireless_nick REPLACE WITH YOUR HOSTNAME"...what do i put for hostname?
[05:57] <robotgeek> linas5: you probably don't need the nick part
[05:57] <yubimusubi> Erm, I read with K3B you can burn DVDs, but you have to have demuxed files... I have an xvid.avi file I'd like to burn
[05:57] <intelikey> well i got problem #3 fixed now back to #2....  eeer
[05:57] <linas5> just leave it out?
[05:57] <linas5> =P
[05:58] <robotgeek> linas5: yes, nicks don't really matter. wireless_essid is more important
[05:58] <scanwinder> ejofee: whats the device name for a sound card? it dosent seem to work with /dev/dsp0 and alsa...
[05:58] <linas5> thanks robotgeek
[05:58] <scanwinder> ejofee: it goes without error if i dont put in a device name
[05:59] <scanwinder> ejofee: but i still get no sound in kmid
[05:59] <linas5> ok...
[05:59] <linas5> how do i get this interfaces thing replaced/edited
[05:59] <dell500> anyone here know how to install windows after installing ubuntu?
[05:59] <linas5> with your windows cd?
[05:59] <yubimusubi> dell500: You need to make an NTFS partition
[06:00] <wims> how do i make things start at boot+?
[06:00] <wims> automatically that is
[06:00] <dell500> ok, well what if that was done, but the windows installer wouldn't accept? :(
[06:00] <robotgeek> linas5: sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[06:00] <linas5> thank you sir
[06:00] <robotgeek> linas5: don't sir me :)
[06:00] <intelikey> is there a multiverse for 5.4 ?
[06:00] <linas5> lol
[06:01] <yubimusubi> intelikey: why don't you upgrade to 5.10?
[06:01] <khermans> What is a recommended identd package?
[06:01] <luciano_> does nForce2 audio device support ALSA drivers?
[06:01] <intelikey> not an option yubimusubi and even if it was what make you think i'd like 5.10 any better ?
[06:02] <yubimusubi> luciano_: I think you need to get the install from nvidia.com
[06:02] <intelikey> is there a multiverse for 5.4 ?
[06:02] <robotgeek> intelikey: i can't begin to tell you how awesome it is :)
[06:02] <ejofee> scanwinder: /dev/sequencer
[06:02] <robotgeek> intelikey: yes, there shud be
[06:02] <intelikey> you sure cant.
[06:02] <yubimusubi> intelikey: Everything's actually up to date in 5.10
[06:02] <ejofee> scanwinder: usually you should need to mention it, though
[06:02] <intelikey> yubimusubi so ?
[06:02] <yubimusubi> Anyone know how to burn a video DVD with Ubuntu? Or am I screwed?
[06:02] <ejofee> scanwinder: now, have you added the soundfont?
[06:03] <khermans> I need to run IDENTD to get into irc.easynews.com ... any ideas?
[06:03] <luciano_> Yes, but it install OSS support only
[06:03] <yubimusubi> intelikey: This is my first foray into the Ubuntu world...I popped 5.4 into my drive, got online and everyone told me to upgrade to Breezy.
[06:03] <jon_> hi all, I HAD my Mx Duo700 mouse buttons working, did a re-install, now I can't remember how I did it, any links would be appritiated
[06:03] <scanwinder> ejofee: what are soundfonts and where do i find one to add?
[06:04] <intelikey> yeah i know.  but i'm talking to you on a 3 year old linux right now and happy with it.     and believe it or not. every thing on it works flawlessly.
[06:04] <ejofee> scanwinder: soundfonts are just as character fonts in word processors, only that they refer to instruments rather than letters
[06:05] <ejofee> scanwinder: it's like a set of instruments
[06:05] <jon_> intelikey, if it aint broke, dont fix it eh
[06:05] <intelikey> presactly
[06:05] <BoukenPink> I wonder if I should talk to my ISP about my bittorrent problem. >.>
[06:05] <Agedec> #winehq
[06:05] <intelikey> !
[06:05] <ubotu> intelikey: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[06:05] <Agedec> woops
[06:06] <Agedec> lol
[06:06] <scanwinder> ejofee: ive got to go....thanks for ur help
[06:06] <ejofee> scanwinder: maybe you want the link to a soundfont
[06:06] <scanwinder> ejofee: yes, that would help
[06:06] <yubimusubi> No one knows how to burn video DVDs?
[06:06] <ejofee> scanwinder: ftp://ftp.personalcopy.net/pub/Unison.sf2.gz
[06:07] <ejofee> scanwinder: maybe we'll go on later
[06:07] <linas5> ugh wtf
[06:07] <ejofee> scanwinder: i myself am interested in midis
[06:07] <linas5> how do i get this wifi thing to connect
[06:07] <ejofee> scanwinder: adding it to qsynth is trivial
[06:07] <dell500> i thought there was a wiki page or something about windows xp after the installation of linux
[06:07] <scanwinder> ejofee: ok...bye
[06:07] <ejofee> scanwinder: then you just select qsynth as your synthesizer (in kmid's menu)
[06:07] <yubimusubi> dell500: I think there is.
[06:07] <linas5> do win first?
[06:07] <dell500> some process through the live cd and reconfiguring grub and the boot record
[06:08] <dell500> i just don't understand why windows has to be a bitch like this
[06:08] <dell500> it's liek "no, i won't boot or install if I'm number 1 biotch"
[06:08] <intelikey> i can see your point also yubimusubi, if i had a dvd drive i'd be inclined to look for something that could put it to use.      there is still a 5.25 floppy drive in this box.
[06:08] <yubimusubi> dell500: Generally, Windoze wants to be installed on /dev/[hs] da1
[06:08] <dell500> yup
[06:08] <dell500> but i say no!
[06:08] <yubimusubi> intelikey: Heh, thanks
[06:08] <dell500> you get hdb1!
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> ive had Xp be so stupid it installs itself on drive H: because i had a 15 in 1 usb reader.. so it labled all those slots C: D; E; and so forth..
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:09] <g00r0n> anyone know what to install for gnome to have an OSX-like launch bar?
[06:09] <yubimusubi> intelikey: Well, I have an anime here that a friend wants (but she has no internet) so....
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> not having a C: can really confuse some programs. I fond out.
[06:09] <yubimusubi> dell500: I agree...it's crap, heheh
[06:09] <dell500> so what shall i do?
[06:10] <dell500> maybe unplug ubuntu, plug in the 30gb and install windows, then replug everything in?
[06:10] <yubimusubi> dell500: I'll do a google real quick...
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> dell500,  with the right grub options - yu can 'swap' the drives and other things.  but it depends on your exact problem.
[06:10] <dell500> i hope you find something i didn't
[06:10] <intelikey> yubimusubi i asked that question a while ago for your benifit, does k3b do dvd? and the answer i got was YES
[06:10] <yubimusubi> dell500: but a backup and reinstall sounds like the way I'd do it, heheh
[06:10] <dell500> Dr_Willis:  winxp won't install cause ubuntu is there :)
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> My machines bios has a quick boot menu./ where i can pick what HD to boot  :) thats handy.
[06:10] <varsendagger> g00r0n, have you looked into gdesklets?
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> dell500,  think of it as a sign.... :P
[06:11] <dell500> yubimusubi:  i just got breezy the way i like it though :)
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> dell500,  using 2 hard drives?
[06:11] <dell500> Dr_Willis:  lol, yes
[06:11] <robotgeek> g00r0n: starterbar / ksmoothdock
[06:11] <varsendagger> dell500, why would you want XP?
[06:11] <dell500> games!
[06:11] <dell500> lanning
[06:11] <linas5> hmmm
[06:11] <dell500> i have to tweak ubuntu a bit more for it to be stable and run games, and a faster internet connection....
[06:11] <intelikey> swap the drives.  but don't forget to change your fstab
[06:12] <linas5> ill try again tommorrow
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> dell500,  you really should put XP on the drive that will be hda.  for the best.
[06:12] <yubimusubi> dell500: You can try something like this (windoze through qemu) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39513
[06:12] <dell500> Dr_Willis:  emulator for windoze?
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> but ive never seen xp refuse to install oh hda, if linux is on hdb.
[06:13] <dell500> well all i want to do is install xp....
[06:13] <dell500> so should i just take linux out, then replug it back in on hdb?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> onto the 2nd hard rive?
[06:13] <intelikey> hehhe or pull your curent hda and install xp then put it back in.
[06:13] <dell500> that's such crap, i hate m$
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> if you just unplug the power to the linux drive.. the othe rdrive may  work then..
[06:13] <dell500> intelikey:  ya most likely scenario lol
[06:13] <yubimusubi> dell500: wait, they're on 2 different physical hard drives?
[06:14] <yubimusubi> dell500: that would be the easiest way to do it.
[06:14] <dell500> i thought it had to do with the placement on the cable?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> just rember to unplug the power to the pc.. BEFOR ya go messing about with cables and so forth.
[06:14] <dell500> ya, linux is on a 120, and i am wanting to put windoze on a 30
[06:14] <intelikey> no jumpers or software
[06:14] <yubimusubi> dell500: placement shouldn't matter...as long as the BIOS only sees one HD it should be fine.
[06:14] <dell500> Dr_Willis:  duh! :)
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> dell500,  then you forget.. and go... DOH!!!
[06:14] <dell500> Dr_Willis:  yup :)
[06:15] <dell500> lol
[06:15] <dell500> i've got like 4 physical drives
[06:15] <dell500> it's grand
[06:15] <yubimusubi> dell500: I bet.
[06:15] <dell500> 240gb of backup, 120 for linux, 30 for crap
[06:15] <dell500> it's overkill
[06:15] <dell500> PBR out of a 40oz is the best!
[06:16] <yubimusubi> I have 4 computers...but...2 of them don't work (I'm going to make them one computer)
[06:16] <dell500> so, what's the game plan? mess with the bios?
[06:16] <yubimusubi> Oh and one's my dads, heheh
[06:16] <dell500> or just unplug the power
[06:16] <dell500> lol
[06:16] <yubimusubi> dell500: I like unplug the power, but I'm dirty like that.
[06:16] <intelikey> if it is jumpered to master you will have to remove the jumper (or move it) so it's master.  but if it is cable-select (software addressing) just pulling the master will switch the slave to master.
[06:16] <snadge> anyone know why a particular pdf file im trying to view, parts of it come up in symbol font instead of a readable one.. i've even tried the official acrobat reader, and another pc that runs debian. any ideas?
[06:17] <yubimusubi> snadge: It's the fonts..I had a problem with some pdfs too.
[06:17] <dell500> don't even worry about the cords?
[06:17] <intelikey> snadge yep file is hosed
[06:17] <snadge> yeah i think its choosing the wrong font
[06:18] <snadge> since the rest of the file that isnt that font is perfectly readable
[06:18] <dell500> is there a ext2 or ext3 read/write app out on windows?
[06:18] <dell500> free that is
[06:18] <yubimusubi> snadge: No, the font in the file does not exist on your computer, so it tries to grab a font...
[06:18] <_jason> dell500, explore2fs
[06:18] <snadge> yubimusubi, yeah thats fine.. how do i tell it not to choose that font? ;)
[06:18] <dell500> yes! i love that prog
[06:18] <dell500> does it have write capability now?
[06:18] <yubimusubi> dell500: Why not just part a small FAT32 out of it?
[06:19] <yubimusubi> snadge: I have no clue :P
[06:19] <_jason> dell500, I don't know, never used it
[06:19] <dell500> cause all my music is on ext2
[06:20] <yubimusubi> dell500: You've got all that extra space and you don't just put shared music on a FAT partition? (That's what I use my external HD for)
[06:20] <_jason> dell500, "Although there is still some code for write support, it has been abandoned and most likely does not work." so umm i guess not
[06:20] <intelikey> dell500 swaping the plug on the cable doesn't swap the drives hd'a/b'  no.  but on boxes with 2 ide channels swapping the cables plug on the motherboard will change hda>hdc & hdd>hdb
[06:21] <dell500> ya, that's what i thought
[06:21] <dell500> ok, i'm gonna go install it and see what happens
[06:21] <dell500> hopefully i don't lose this :(
[06:22] <yubimusubi> snadge: If OOo or a similar program supports opening pdfs, you might wanna just try and change the fonts there
[06:22] <dell500> or can't get back in, i hate that when i can't get into ubuntu
[06:22] <dell500> anyway, peace
[06:22] <yubimusubi> dell500: good luck ;)
[06:22] <dell500> thanks
[06:22] <snadge> yubimusubi, i just tried that.. it seems OOo can only export to pdf, not open them ;)
[06:22] <snadge> i could also try removing the symbol font
[06:23] <intelikey> i need to switch to the other box on the net.  brb
[06:23] <snadge> ahh i think webdings is the culprit
[06:24] <yubimusubi> snadge: Yea, hopefully that'll work...I simply gave up on mine (it was just for DND/Gaming).
[06:29] <jblack> Hi. I've just noticed that I don't have /dev/hdc
[06:29] <zparta> good for you
[06:30] <jblack> I hadn't considered whether that's a good thing for me.
[06:31] <jblack> I'm wondering whether or not there's a problem with dapper.
[06:31] <jblack> I've seen a variety of symptomatic problems with hotplug and udev on dapper.
[06:31] <durt> missing any other devices involved in receiving objects inserted into them?
[06:31] <tritium> jblack: dapper is in development, so you can expect things like that to happen
[06:31] <jblack> durt: Not sure.. Though I can check. Would a usb device be a sufficient test?
[06:32] <jblack> I could probably hunt down a pcmcia adaptor for a cf card and see if that gets seen
[06:33] <jblack> Ok. a pmcia cf flash adaptor with a 512 meg card shows up fine as hde
[06:33] <jblack> lets see what it does with an external dvd writer
[06:34] <jblack> The external dvd writer is showing up fine as well.
[06:34] <jblack> tritium: Yes, of course. :)
[06:35] <ardchoille> Anyone know how to change the "foot" icon in nautilus (to the right of the toolbar)?
[06:35] <intelikey> back
[06:35] <jblack> Most of the team has things like X40s. I, on the other hand, have a vaio.
[06:36] <jblack> I think the acpi setup has broken rather badly throughout dapper.
[06:36] <jblack> I lost /proc/acpi/sony quite some while ago.
[06:36] <basheer> I need some help with ndiswrapper
[06:36] <sorush20> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Fundraising
[06:38] <intelikey> i typed apt-get install irssi  and it said is it ok to install 24m of files.   i said no.  and installed bx for that price of 2m  hehhe i like bx better anyway...
[06:38] <jblack> intelikey: What ever works best for you. :)
[06:38] <johnblackhorse> intelikey: ?? irssi is default in ubuntu
[06:39] <jblack> johblackhorse: If he did a server install, irssi likely wasn't installed.
[06:39] <ejofee> i use a symlink for my homedir. any idea why the console prompt expands to the full physical path (instead of showing "~" or at least "/home/ejofee") and how i can change this? (please don't advise me to use mount!)
[06:39] <intelikey> and ?
[06:39] <johnblackhorse> jblack: hmmm, one would think that since irssi is a console app, it would be in the server install
[06:39] <intelikey> jblack exactly.
[06:39] <jblack> johnblackhorse: I agree.
[06:40] <jblack> But I think its not, all the same.
[06:40] <jblack> ejofee: Let me check
[06:40] <dooglus> is there a program for ubuntu which can display PDF version 1.6 documents?
[06:40] <intelikey> it's not
[06:40] <ejofee> dooglus: xpdf can't do it?!
[06:41] <dooglus> ejofee: I didn't try, but I will.  evince can't do it.
[06:41] <swim> hey folks, I've installed kde on ubuntu (not kubuntu) but it seems to have installed 3.4 ... any ideas why? (supposed to be 3.5)
[06:41] <jblack> ejofee: A quick test here doesn't reproduce that behaviour.
[06:41] <ejofee> dooglus: also, you may want to try kpdf (free) or acrobat (non-free)
[06:41] <intelikey> jblack you may be the guy i need to talk to.  any idea why gpm only works after a dpkg-reconfigure gpm     it doesnt stay fixed on reboot  ????
[06:42] <jblack> intelikey: Hmmm. Maybe gpm is getting loaded after udev and hotplug?
[06:42] <Nothingman> I get "device not accepting address X, error -110" when I try to plug in my webcam
[06:42] <Nothingman> it's an Intel play me2cam
[06:42] <intelikey> shouldn't it be ?
[06:42] <jblack> Nothingman: That sounds like a kernel driver issue to me.
[06:43] <ejofee> jblack: so... my /home folder is actually a symlink to a *sub*folder on *another* partition. maybe this is different from what you've just tested.
[06:43] <jblack> intelikey: I mean, maybe its getting loaded before.
[06:43] <jblack> ejofee: I tried a symlink to another dir on the same filesystem.
[06:43] <intelikey> i mean if it was loaded befor udev wouldn't that
[06:43] <jblack> I can try symlinking to a dir on another filesystem.
[06:43] <ejofee> jblack: please
[06:43] <intelikey> oh
[06:43] <intelikey> ok
[06:43] <jblack> intelikey: Well, it depends upon the device you're referring to.
[06:43] <jblack> ejofee: Sure
[06:44] <Nothingman> jblack: any recommendations?
[06:44] <jblack> intelikey: Well, check /etc/rc[1-3] .d
[06:44] <intelikey> ps2 whele mouse
[06:44] <jblack> Nothingman: My recommendation is to google quite heavily for that error, and see what other people have said about it.
[06:44] <intelikey> eel
[06:44] <intelikey> the link is there
[06:44] <jblack> intelikey: Also, look at /etc/gpm.conf and see what device is being referenced by gpm
[06:45] <intelikey> but it wont even work with a command /etc/init.d/gpm restart   until i reconfigure it
[06:45] <techrush> im thinking of trying to dual boot my powermac g4 with osx/ubuntu....anyone in here do that ?
[06:45] <yubimusubi> gpm? isn't that for mouse?
[06:45] <intelikey> it is the correct device
[06:45] <jblack> ejofee: I'm still unable to reproduce it buddy. :(
[06:45] <ejofee> jblack: this is what my prompt shows: "/media/hda4/home/ejofee$" (which should be "~", my home folder)
[06:46] <jblack> I did a rm -rf jbtest; ln -s /var/www /home/jbtest and log in on tty0 as jbtest.
[06:46] <jblack> It considered /var/www as ~.
[06:46] <ejofee> jblack: thank you! it then seems it's from the bash profile or rc. i will change them to ubuntu (my home folder was created by my former distro)
[06:47] <intelikey> i even made a dir /bob  and put the psaux in there and pointed gpm to that.   same thing  only works after a reconf even though i don't change anything in the reconfigure  leave all the same jblack
[06:47] <jblack> ejofee: Ahh.
[06:47] <jblack> btw, I can reproduce your behaviour if I run "export HOME=/tmp"
[06:47] <jblack> Are you doing the equivilant?
[06:48] <jblack> (btw, if you did that, then if you just typed "cd", that would bring you to home, and show ~ as your cwd)
[06:48] <lamb> how can i make my terminal window borderless?
[06:49] <jblack> intelikey: Thinking
[06:49] <jblack> intelikey: can you show me your /etc/gpm.conf at pastebin.com please?
[06:49] <jblack> I'm most interested in the device line
[06:49] <intelikey> jblack #flood be ok ?
[06:50] <jblack> I guess we could do that, though I'd prefer pastebin
[06:50] <jblack> Ok. I'm in #flood
[06:50] <kayde> hey:) ive got a problem with my ubuntu 5.04 on my toshiba laptop with a trident microsytems cyber 9525 vidio card,
[06:51] <kayde> i have fuzzy lines at bottom of my screen
[06:51] <PoW> What's a good ftp client?
[06:51] <jblack> Lets take bob back out of the equation. :)
[06:51] <thrice`> gftp?
[06:51] <jblack> pow: I use firefox myself.
[06:52] <thrice`> "good" is in the eye of the beholder
[06:52] <intelikey> hehhe it's working ?
[06:52] <thrice`> konqueror? :)
 hehhe it's working ?<intelikey> hehhe it's working ?
[06:52] <kayde> any helpo?
[06:52] <ejofee> jblack: it's not from there either. could it be from kde? i am not getting the same error in the text terminal
[06:52] <thrice`> kayde, no experience with that chip...sorry :(  have you tried ubuntu 5.10?  maybe it was fixed
[06:52] <kayde> hey:) ive got a problem with my ubuntu 5.04 on my toshiba laptop with a trident microsytems cyber 9525 vidio card,        i have fuzzy lines at bottom of my screen
[06:52] <BoukenPink> I think I just broke my internet... but it somehow fixed my bittorrent problem.
[06:52] <yubimusubi> kayde: It's probably a problem with the xorg.conf settings
[06:52] <intelikey> but if you want me to go back to /dev/ <something>  tell me what to try jblack
[06:53] <jblack> ejofee: What do you get for a prompt when you type "cd" ?
[06:53] <kayde> thrice`, nope i have orderd it though
[06:53] <thrice`> kayde, do you have a quick internet connection?
[06:53] <kayde> yubimusubi, how do i fix?
[06:53] <yubimusubi> kayde: try ctrl-alt-numpad+ and see if that changes it.
[06:53] <kayde> thrice`, yes, but with limited downloads
[06:53] <kayde> ok...
[06:53] <ejofee> jblack: i get "ejofee@localhost:~$"
[06:54] <xerophyte> is there any seperate download for Ubuntu server, or it has server install on the same cd where can i find out ubuntu server info i mean which package are included and stuff
[06:54] <jblack> ejofee: Hmmmmm. Interesting.
[06:54] <yubimusubi> kayde: If that helps, (you should get a larger or smaller portion of the screen) then your resolution is wrong.
[06:54] <kayde> yubimusubi, i dont have no. pad, its a laftop
[06:54] <jblack> ejofee: start up a new prompt. Does it list /home/...  ?
[06:54] <yubimusubi> kayde: There's no (for instance) "Fn" key?
[06:54] <kayde> yubimusubi, yes...
[06:55] <ejofee> jblack: yes, it expands it
[06:55] <ice9> trying to make a chroot
[06:55] <ice9> and I get to this step
[06:55] <jblack> I seem to have gotten confused.
[06:55] <yubimusubi> kayde: generally you hold "Fn" and press the button with the "+" sign inside of the square for laptops that I've used.
[06:55] <jblack> You're the one that has the ~ path problem? I thought you had the gpm problem?
[06:55] <intelikey> jblack what do you want me to point it too ?  /dev/psaux  /dev/input/mice  /dev/null  ?
[06:55] <ice9> sudo debootstrap --arch i386 hoary /chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[06:56] <kayde> yubimusubi, dont do nothing
[06:56] <intelikey> that's me jblack
[06:56] <ice9> but now it does nothing
[06:56] <xerophyte> could somebody give me info  on Ubuntu server version
[06:56] <ejofee> jblack: no, i have no problem with gpm
[06:56] <jblack> intelikey: Ahh. Ok.
[06:56] <ice9> I have to break the connection cause it just sits there
[06:56] <jblack> ejofee: Ok. do the following:
[06:56] <ice9> is there a way I can fix this ?
[06:56] <jblack> jblack@pluto:~$ echo $PWD; cd; echo $PWD
[06:56] <kayde> yubimusubi, want me to paste my xorg.conf somewhear?
[06:56] <jblack> for you, ~ will be the /home/ejofee whatever.
[06:57] <yubimusubi> kayde: Does it change your resolution at all? (Generally laptops require a specific resolution, some weird number like 1152x854)
[06:57] <kayde> yubimusubi,  ive been trying to fix for nearly a month
[06:57] <jblack> intelikey: Lets do /dev/psaux for the moment.
[06:57] <intelikey> k reconfiguring now.
[06:57] <yubimusubi> kayde: Yea, paste the xorg.conf at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and send me the link.
[06:57] <ejofee> jblack: yes, that's what it is
[06:57] <kayde> yubimusubi,  nope, when i do cange resolutrion any way, to a smaller rortion- its not fuzzy but screen is half the size
[06:58] <jblack> ejo: You should have gotten two lines of output from that line I asked you to type in. What are they?
[06:58] <kayde> yubimusubi, please post the root code for accesing the xorg, i forgot
[06:58] <yubimusubi> kayde: I also had a problem with my Gentoo laptop...I suggest googling for your specific laptop...That's how I found the proper resolution for mine.
[06:58] <_jason> can someone recommend a commandline id3 editor?
[06:58] <yubimusubi> kayde: 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' without the quotes
[06:58] <lamb> how can i make my terminal window borderless? or should i download another program?
[06:59] <intelikey> jblack the only to test this is a reboot.  shall i test it now ?                        although i have tried it umpteen times already...
[06:59] <jblack> intelikey: No need yet.
[06:59] <jblack> intelikey: cd into /etc/rc2.d
[06:59] <Necrosan> Any way I can speed up my laptop's boot time? It has a 366mhz processor & 128mb of ram.. Is there anything at all I can really do beyond purchasing more ram?
[06:59] <intelikey> jblack gpm is working with device /dev/psaux right now.
[06:59] <yubimusubi> kayde: Also, do you know the specific make and model of your laptop (usually on a sticker on the bottom) or the physical size of the screen?
[07:00] <intelikey> ok
[07:00] <jblack> There, you'll see a bunch of files like K19cupsys
[07:00] <intelikey> yeah
[07:00] <jblack> For all five of those rcX.d dirs, I'd like to know whether gpm is S or K.
[07:00] <intelikey> S20gpm
[07:01] <kayde> yubimusubi, err yes i can find out,
[07:01] <jblack> intelikey: I'd like to know in a certain way.
[07:01] <jblack> Give it to me in the format of S: 1,2,3  K: 4,5
[07:01] <jblack> as is appropriate.
[07:01] <intelikey> jblack only 1 & 6 is kill
[07:01] <jblack> Ok.
[07:01] <kayde> yubimusubi, 2230CD
[07:01] <lamb> how can i make my terminal window borderless? or should i download another program?
[07:01] <jblack> type "runlevel". what level are you at?
[07:01] <CaptainMorgan> what's the recursive syntax for chmod +wr  ?
[07:02] <intelikey> 2
[07:02] <kayde> yubimusubi, 2230CD  toshiba satelite
[07:02] <jblack> do you have a /etc/rc2.d/S01gdm ?
[07:02] <yubimusubi> kayde: okay, can you paste your xorg.conf at that URL?
[07:02] <jblack> pardon, S??gpm
[07:02] <intelikey> that's the very one i pasted
[07:02] <kayde> yubimusubi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5868
[07:02] <kayde> yubimusubi,  its got screenshot aswell
[07:02] <intelikey> not 01   20
[07:02] <jblack> intelikey: Ok. Try this:
[07:03] <oneseventeen> I can browse through my windows network just fine, but how can I write to it?  it says permission denied, but I'm the owner of the windows machine, can I tell it my username/password for the windows machine?
[07:03] <jblack> cd /etc/rc2.d; mv S20gpm S99gpm
[07:03] <yubimusubi> kayde: Okay, it sounds to me like a resolution problem.
[07:03] <CaptainMorgan> what's the recursive syntax for chmod +wr  ?
[07:03] <jblack> then, try rebooting. Tell me if that fixes it
[07:03] <CaptainMorgan> lol jblack - snl
[07:03] <intelikey> make it last. ok
[07:03] <jblack> captainmorgan: chmod --recursive (something)+wr
[07:04] <yubimusubi> kayde: It also *looks* like the same problem I had on my Gateway.
[07:04] <intelikey> ok
[07:04] <jblack> captainmorgain: do you change ownership for group, owner or other?
[07:04] <kayde> yubimusubi,  can u plz post the xorg.conf that i "should" have?
[07:04] <CaptainMorgan> jblack all
[07:04] <jblack> pardon, permissions for.
[07:04] <intelikey> jblack and ?
[07:04] <jblack> captainmorgan: You want everyone to read and write files, recursively?
[07:04] <jblack> intelikey: After you reboot? Tell me if it works
[07:04] <CaptainMorgan> only 1 user on this comp - me :)
[07:04] <intelikey> ok be back in 2
[07:04] <varsendagger> oneseventeen, you can try to mount it to your system somehwere and then write to the place you mounted it
[07:05] <jblack> captainmorgan: What directory do yo uwant to do this in?
[07:05] <varsendagger> --- i couldn't figure out how to do it with those samba gui's
[07:05] <yubimusubi> Zscach:  Wrong sync/refresh rate, I'm sure....Let me find out what you need and you'll have to hand-edit xorg.conf.
[07:05] <jblack> ejofee: Where are we?
[07:05] <CaptainMorgan> /home/Captain/folder/
[07:05] <oneseventeen> varsendagger, if I use the "connect to server" wizard, isn't that what it does?   Mount the drive on my desktop?  (still can't write to it in that case)
[07:06] <jblack> captainmorgan: Its probably not a great idea, but "chmod a+rw --recursive /home/Captain/folder"
[07:06] <Zscach> yubimusubi, ...? cant u just pplay with that opne and paste so i can paste over?
[07:07] <CaptainMorgan> --recursive is the command ?
[07:07] <CaptainMorgan> i usually leave out a
[07:07] <jblack> recursive is the argument to the chmod command that says "do this recursively"
[07:07] <jblack> a means "all
[07:07] <varsendagger> try to do it with sudo in a terminal    ie sudo cp blah /home/oneseventeen/Desktop/sambafolder/
[07:07] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, you can use chmod -R too for recursive
[07:07] <cdubya> how do I add themes to fluxbox?
[07:08] <CaptainMorgan> _jason thanks - was using -r was receiving errors..
[07:08] <intelikey> jblack no sir
[07:08] <jblack> intelikey: Did we get lucky?
[07:08] <jblack> laskdjf
[07:08] <jblack> intelikey: Hold up
[07:08] <yubimusubi> Zscach: Lol, it's not quite that easy when it comes to laptops (and LCD screens in general)
[07:08] <intelikey> jblack no sir
[07:08] <jblack> intelikey: as root, try "/etc/init.d/gpm restart"
[07:09] <jblack> Does it magically work then?
[07:09] <techrush> no one runs ubuntu on a mac in here ?
[07:09] <Zscach> yubimusubi, k then, what do i do?
[07:09] <FunnyLookinHat> Is there a specific package i need to install to get the svideo output to work on my laptop?
[07:09] <eobanb> FunnyLookinHat, what graphics card is it?
[07:09] <jblack> techrush: I don't, but I know people do.
[07:09] <varsendagger> cdubya, copy them to  /usr/share/fluxbox/styles/ or
[07:09] <intelikey> ok what now ?
[07:09] <yubimusubi> Zscach: Looks like you've got a widescreen?  I think 1280x768 is your resolution.
[07:09] <nicholaspaul> QUESTION:  i'm trying to install fwcutter: it says 'make - command not found' Do i need to install something to make 'make' work?
[07:09] <FunnyLookinHat> eobanb, intel 915 i believe
[07:09] <yubimusubi> Zscach: But let me double check.
[07:09] <jblack> intelikey: did it start wokring?
[07:09] <oneseventeen> varsendagger, meh, seems too much trouble for what it's worth, just showing my dad Ubuntu.  (windows fileshares work fine at home, just not here) oh well, thanks for the tips though!
[07:09] <xerophyte> where can i server version of Ubuntu
[07:09] <techrush> i know people do also im just curious if its as easy to setup a dual boot as it is with ubuntu/win32
[07:10] <intelikey> jblack it says fail on the shutdown  ok on the start but nothing.
[07:10] <ejofee> jblack: i partially isolated the problem! "~" expansion happens only when i login by kdm. it never happens when i "startx" from a text terminal.
[07:10] <eobanb> xerophyte, you can use the regular CD, just type server at the startup prompt
[07:10] <intelikey> just like it has all along....
[07:10] <jblack> ejofee: Very odd.
[07:10] <ejofee> jblack: is it of any use?
[07:10] <eobanb> techrush, it is fairly simple.
[07:10] <jblack> ejofee: Potentially. Thinking
[07:10] <trappist> anybody know what media:/hdc is supposed to mean in konqueror?  it tries to open that when I insert a dvd, but it can't find it.
[07:10] <varsendagger> cdubya, did you get that?
[07:10] <jblack> intelikey: it won't say anything. But does it work?
[07:11] <xerophyte> eobanb, oh okay thix .. just wondering if you can rename the Ubuntu server into any other name . does Ubuntu has the same license like debian just wondering
[07:11] <eobanb> xerophyte, licence? you mean the GPL?
[07:11] <eobanb> the licence is the same.
[07:11] <phiqtion> do i need to download a codec for dvdrip to use?
[07:11] <ejofee> jblack: where do i find the differences between a startx session and a kdm session? that is, practically, which files are involved in creating this difference?
[07:11] <nicholaspaul> ANyone know anything about 'make'? DO i have to install it?
[07:11] <eobanb> feel free to fork ubuntu into your own distribution xerophyte :)
[07:11] <intelikey> it does say something it says * stopping mouse server   fail  * starting mouse server   ok   but   no it does not work.  sorry i thought i made it clear.
[07:12] <jblack> ejofee: I'm not sure offhand.
[07:12] <cdubya> varsendagger, yeah, I'm having some other issues, too. now sound doesn't want to seem to work under fluxbox.
[07:12] <jblack> ejofee: Actually, I do.
[07:12] <jblack> dpkg -L kdm
[07:12] <phiqtion> do i need to download a codec for dvdrip to use?
[07:12] <jblack> ejofee: that may not show you the config files though.
[07:12] <Necrosan> Any way I can speed up my laptop's boot time? It has a 366mhz processor & 128mb of ram.. Is there anything at all I can really do beyond purchasing more ram?
[07:13] <jblack> intelikey: You may have. I'm doing several things at once. :)
[07:13] <varsendagger> nicholaspaul, there is a backage called build-essential that ou will be needing
[07:13] <Necrosan> And speeding up ubuntu in general, too.
[07:13] <intelikey> jblack i really hoped you had found it by moving it to the end of the startup scripts....
[07:13] <Necrosan> I wanna keep Gnome though
[07:13] <phiqtion> Necrosan: try changing the window manager
[07:13] <jblack> intelikey: So had I.
[07:13] <Necrosan> heh
[07:13] <Necrosan> that's the one thing I don't wanna do =P
[07:13] <nicholaspaul> thx varsendagger :-) i'll try it out.
[07:13] <ejofee> jblack: it doesn't really help me :(
[07:13] <varsendagger> cdubya, what are you doing, specifically
[07:13] <Madpilot> Necrosan: buy more RAM...
[07:13] <jblack> intelikey: to relist what you know... gpm works each time you configure it, but never otherwise.
[07:13] <Necrosan> Madpilot: Funny =P
[07:13] <eobanb> Necrosan, then you're basically out of luck....366 MHz is rather slow
[07:13] <techrush> you can keep "gnome" but get rid of meta city
[07:13] <techrush> and you may see some performance inscrease
[07:14] <intelikey> jblack i've been fighting with this for too long     and yes exactly ^
[07:14] <aeon17x> !gparted
[07:14] <ubotu> aeon17x: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:14] <Necrosan> techrush: What's metacity do anyway?
[07:14] <phiqtion> Necrosan: gnome needs cpu power not more ram. 128 is ok. i recommend amd for linux in general
[07:14] <eobanb> Necrosan, if you like the general feel of gnome but need more speed you might try XFce
[07:14] <xerophyte> eobanb, i am rpm based distro guy :) just wondering if wanna pick centos or Ubuntu Ubuntu seem to has good desktop and server and lotso f users so wondering around ;)
[07:14] <techrush> metacity is the window manager gnome uses
[07:14] <Necrosan> yeah, I used XFce on my solaris box for awhile.
[07:14] <jblack> intelikey: try "lsmod | grep psmouse"
[07:14] <jblack> Did you get anything back for that?
[07:14] <phiqtion> do i need to download a codec for dvdrip to use?
[07:15] <bshumate> Necrosan: 386?!  make sure to operate that in some kind of museum! That may speed it up...especially if it is running beside something like an IBM PC-XT ;-)
[07:15] <Necrosan> techrush: What would I lose by switching from metacity to say, fluxbox?
[07:15] <eobanb> xerophyte, well you probably know that centOS is basically a clone of RHEL....for server software it largely comes down to what kind of support you need
[07:15] <Necrosan> bshumate: funny =P
[07:15] <intelikey> jblack nope module not loaded
[07:15] <jblack> try "modprobe psmouse; /etc/init.d/gpm restart; try using the mouse in console"
[07:15] <techrush> Necrosan im not really to sure ive just read a little about it
[07:15] <eobanb> xerophyte, there is plenty of professional support available for ubuntu...with centOS i don't know...with RHEL there  is of course
[07:15] <intelikey> that is what is happening. jblack now i can fix it.  thanks.
[07:15] <jblack> Ok. so you know to edit /etc/modules?
[07:16] <intelikey> jblack it's all console  :)
[07:16] <intelikey> yeah
[07:16] <sstchur> anyone know of a good photo organizer for linux?  that can easily crop and scale multipe images at once?
[07:16] <intelikey> thanks again
[07:16] <jblack> Welcome buddy.
[07:16] <xerophyte> eobanb, i am aware of cento close onf RHEL most of my work with  rpms and centos . .never used debian based one just wondering which way should i wann ago if iw anna provide srever to local busness
[07:16] <jblack> ejofee: Ok. I can give you my full attention now
[07:16] <Madpilot> sstchur: gThumb is good, not sure if it'll do multiple images at once though
[07:16] <jblack> ejofee: Lets recap
[07:16] <robotgeek> convert :)
[07:16] <yubimusubi> Zscach: Okay, I'm going to tweak your xorg.conf and paste a new one.
[07:17] <eobanb> xerophyte, i've found that package management tends to be better with debian/ubuntu than with rpm distros.  that's my opinion, though.  i urge you to try ubuntu as a server and see what you think
[07:17] <Zscach> yubimusubi, ty :)
[07:17] <sstchur> Madpilot, yeah... I was using gThumb and I do like it... but I don't think it will let me resize many images at once
[07:17] <jblack> Your problem is that your prompt shows the full working directory for $HOME when you start with kdm. That does not happen on the console.
[07:17] <ejofee> jblack: right
[07:17] <jblack> ejofee: Correct?
[07:17] <jblack> Ok.
[07:17] <jblack> And what did you tell me about your results when you typed "echo $PWD; cd; echo $PWD" ?
[07:17] <ejofee> jblack: also, not when i "startx" my x11 session
[07:18] <Zscach> yubimusubi,  how long will it take?
[07:18] <ejofee> jblack: "/home/ejofee"
[07:18] <intelikey> jblack let me send ya some flowers on that.   you are the only one i've talked to in here that was able to even point in the right direction,  well done. :)
[07:18] <jblack> intelikey: You're welcome. :)
[07:18] <xerophyte> eobanb, true thats what i am thinking i wanna provide support for desktop and servers, i am sure ubuntu is good for desktop .. so wanna use it for server too .. it should be better than centos because centos has only few users .. but is been used on many servers true because of RHEL clone ..
[07:18] <jblack> ejofee: And both lines are identical?
[07:19] <ejofee> jblack: yes
[07:19] <jblack> Are you sure?
[07:19] <xerophyte> eobanb, never touch deb development .. i dont think it should be hard to make deb package if you know rpms ..
[07:19] <eobanb> xerophyte, the ubuntu community's always been pretty friendly in my experience =)
[07:19] <xerophyte> eobanb, seems like and its seems bigger than centos one ;)
[07:20] <phiqtion> do i need to download a codec for dvdrip to use?
[07:20] <xerophyte> eobanb, can i msg you
[07:20] <eobanb> sure, xerophyte
[07:20] <jblack> ejofee: Want to cheat and just get the problem fixed?
[07:20] <eobanb> xerophyte, you may have to identify to nickserv before pm'ing
[07:20] <nicholaspaul> thx varsendagger - that looked like it did the trick . Phew!
[07:21] <ejofee> jblack: yes
[07:21] <ejofee> jblack: i hate to always see the full path
[07:21] <varsendagger> you bet
[07:21] <jblack> ejofee: then try this: "echo cd >> ~/.bashrc"
[07:21] <jblack> ejofee: Tell me if that fixes your problem
[07:21] <ejofee> jblack: yes, please wait
[07:21] <sethk> jblack, I wouldn't call it cheating
[07:21] <yubimusubi> Zscach: Try replacing xorg.conf with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5869 and press ctrl-alt-backspace to restart your X server.
[07:22] <varsendagger> nicholaspaul, what are you trying to compile?
[07:22] <Zscach> yubimusubi,  ty :)
[07:22] <jblack> sethk: fixing a symptom instead of the underlying problem its kinda like cheating to me. :)
[07:22] <sethk> well, maybe ...
[07:23] <nicholaspaul> varsendagger, something called fwcutter . apparently its meant to help getting Airport working
[07:23] <yubimusubi> Zscach: If that don't work...well, I can't find much info on your monitor.
[07:23] <sstchur> what is the command you run after getting a new app using apt-get so that you can find it?  I remember running apt-get on something ealier, and then I could not find it with "locate"  I had to run some update command ?
[07:23] <varsendagger> cool
[07:23] <intelikey> jblack i need to add  sound sound-core snd-es1688-lib snd-es1688  to my modules too but i'm not sure what order, you wouldn't know off hand would you ?
[07:23] <Zscach> yub :)ty! ill hope...
[07:23] <ejofee> jblack: yes, it does!!
[07:24] <jblack> Wow. I'm batting two for two
[07:24] <ejofee> jblack: thank you! however, shouldn't this give you any idea what caused the problem?
[07:24] <sethk> jblack, I would prefer cd $HOME
[07:24] <jblack> ejofee: Ok. We didn't fix your problem. We just worked around it.
[07:24] <jblack> sethk: Why is that?
[07:24] <sethk> jblack, probably because I use zsh, and the meaning of cd with no arguments depends on the configuration
[07:24] <jblack> intelikey: The order shouldn't matter (though one line could be redundant) if you don't have to specify module options
[07:25] <sethk> jblack, how is he getting into that situation?
[07:25] <jblack> sethk: Hmmm. Do you think he may have a problem with zsh reading .bashrc?
[07:25] <ejofee> sethk: me?
[07:25] <sethk> ejofee, yes, I'm curious
[07:25] <intelikey> no options needed but i'm pretty sure if the order is incorrect some of them fail to load.... been there before.
[07:25] <Killer_Smurf> hello all.  I have an interesting issue.  I have an acer lappy running breezy.  when I did the install I had 2x256 RAM.  Yesterday I changed to 2x512 RAM and could not boot up.  Tried 1 256 and 1 512 and no go.  tried 1 512 and no problems.  How can I add Ram without reinstalling or is it possible?
[07:26] <sethk> jblack, I haven't run into that, no, but I always have the zsh config files in the places where they are supposed to be.
[07:26] <jblack> sethk: We're not sure why he's getting into the situation. It looks like a bug in kdm somehow.
[07:26] <jblack> sethk: He's using bash. I think using bash syntax in the bash config file is acceptable. ;)
[07:26] <ejofee> sethk: when i use kdm, i get the expanded physical path for "~" as a prompt, while, when i use startx, i get "~" as a prompt.
[07:26] <sethk> jblack, yes, my objection is academic.
[07:27] <edgardoweb_> saludos
[07:27] <sethk> ejofee, that has to be a case of it being escaped where it shouldn't be, I would think
[07:27] <maruchan> is ther an wasy way to encode from divx to dvd. .like divxtodvd on windows
[07:27] <maruchan> ?
[07:27] <edgardoweb_> cd free
[07:27] <edgardoweb_> ???
[07:27] <maruchan> easy
[07:27] <intelikey> single quotes ejofee ?
[07:27] <ejofee> sethk: however, my problem is somehow "multilevel"... my /home folder is actually a symlink to another /home folder on another partition
[07:27] <edgardoweb_> alguien habla espaol
[07:27] <maruchan> or does divx to dvd work in wine?
[07:28] <Killer_Smurf> check winehq
[07:28] <Skif> le sigh-- I am trying to connect to my mother's new wireless network, and WEP does not seem to be playing nice with me.  I've set the SSID and the ASCII WEP key in my /etc/network/interfaces file, but although I can see the network, I can't seem to get a DHCP ack from the WAP.  Any suggestions?
[07:28] <intelikey> like PS1='your prompt'     or  PS1="your prompt"  ?
[07:28] <sethk> ejofee, I've run into a problem with that, actually, but it doesn't really apply here.
[07:28] <nimai> hi, im having a problem loading movies from a data dvd through konqueror.  whenever i go to the dvd from the media:/ directory and try and load a message, it appends my home directory to the file path, so i get an error like "could not play file from "file:///home/nimai/media:/scd0...etc
[07:28] <ejofee> intelikey: i don't know where they (the developers of kdm) might have used single quotes. but, anyway, why am i the only one to get the error
[07:29] <intelikey> ejofee have you set your own prompt in /etc/profile  or some place ?
[07:29] <ejofee> intelikey: no way! :)
[07:29] <jblack> intelikey: I was considering that, but "cd" would have not "fixed" it
[07:29] <intelikey> hmmm idk *shrugs*
[07:30] <intelikey> i agree jblack
[07:31] <jblack> Ok. So now that I took my turn for awhile, I'm having a nightmare of a time with acpi with my vaio on dapper.
[07:31] <cicada> hi all
[07:31] <intelikey> ok testing.
[07:32] <jblack> Bad things happen... suspend to memory is broken, the internal dvdrecorder doesn't come up at all, /proc/acpi/sony is mia, I'm unable to perofrm most laptop related power savings for the battery...
[07:32] <ITSa341> Hello Everyone
[07:32] <cicada> anyone got a few minutes to help me troubleshoot my wireless...?
[07:32] <xulMunkee> 'xmlto pdf foo.xml' doesn't work :-(
[07:33] <xulMunkee> anyone know what's up with xmltex?
[07:33] <varsendagger> hey ITSa341
[07:33] <ejofee> jblack (and sethk, intelikey): i wonder, if i didn't use a symlink, would i get the same error?
[07:33] <MacModder> hi
[07:33] <xulMunkee> !xmltex
[07:33] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, xulMunkee
[07:33] <xulMunkee> !xmlto
[07:33] <ubotu> xulMunkee: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:33] <jblack> ejofee: Thats the interesting question.
[07:33] <xulMunkee> !passivetex
[07:33] <ubotu> I don't know, xulMunkee
[07:34] <jblack> ejofee: I suspect its a kdm bug
[07:34] <cicada> I am using a Prism2.5 with the orinoco driver ... when i run cat /proc/net/wireless
[07:34] <cicada> Inter-| sta-|   Quality        |   Discarded packets               | Missed | WE
[07:34] <cicada>  face | tus | link level noise |  nwid  crypt   frag  retry   misc | beacon | 17  withno info below
[07:34] <xulMunkee> !docbook
[07:34] <ubotu> xulMunkee: Are you on ritalin?
[07:34] <jblack> Though how its presenting down in the bash world... Thats intriguing
[07:34] <intelikey> ladies and gentilmen we have mice :)
[07:34] <ITSa341> I'm really impressed with ubuntu. I booted it in my laptop and everything just works, wireless networking and all
[07:34] <ejofee> jblack: also, could it be related to permissions?
[07:34] <jblack> I doubt, but anything is possible.
[07:34] <MacModder> dose the ubuntu livecd work with the iMac G5/w iSight
[07:34] <MacModder> ?
[07:35] <cicada> yeah my wireless doesn't ... been trying to getr it working for weeks..  can't find any  basic enough info to help me
[07:35] <varsendagger> ITSa341, yeah it is killer
[07:35] <jblack> Its _very_ odd that "PS1 is $PWD; echo $PWD; cd; echo $PWD; PS1 is ~" is happening.
[07:35] <durt> itsa341 what kind of card do you have?
[07:35] <cicada> simple wireless on a IBM T30 laptop..
[07:35] <intelikey> and we have sound
[07:35] <Madpilot> intelikey: you have what? is it time to get a cat, or...
[07:35] <cicada> should work out of the boc
[07:35] <intelikey> Madpilot (:
[07:35] <ejofee> btw, is it possible to create a cd which installs ubuntu and is also live? (so that we may not need to download both)
[07:36] <ITSa341> I've used many distros in the past but none before this set up correctly by themselves.
[07:36] <poningru> ejofee: its beeing worked on
[07:36] <yubimusubi> welcome back Zscach...Did it help?
[07:36] <poningru> ejofee: it will be availble for dapper
[07:36] <Zscach> yubimusubi, it just screwed up my pc, so i had 2 change it back
[07:36] <yubimusubi> Zscach: Oh, I'm sorry...
[07:36] <Zscach> yubimusubi,  gtg ty anyway v:)
[07:36] <ITSa341> eMachines M5305 with a CompUSA PCMCIA 802.11b card
[07:36] <durt> whats it built in?
[07:36] <cicada> I like Ubuntu.... I have now ditcdhed windows for good... butr still no wireless... I have read all the FAQs .. and I am an IT professional....
[07:37] <ejofee> poningru: and will it replace both, or will the install cd also have to be created?
[07:37] <ITSa341> Nope, cheap $15.99 card
[07:37] <poningru> cicada: what do you mean no wireless?
[07:37] <poningru> ejofee: it will replace both
[07:37] <poningru> !express
[07:37] <ubotu> poningru: No idea
[07:37] <xulMunkee> anyone here use docbook-xml?
[07:37] <cicada> poningru: yeah... cat /proc/net/wireless reports nothing
[07:37] <ws006> bunga
[07:37] <Madpilot> ejofee: the plan, as I understand it, is for Dapper to have only a single CD
[07:38] <ejofee> poningru: this is very nice! pclinux os can be installed... from kde! (can you imagine that?)... i wonder, will it be possible for (k)ubuntu, too?
[07:38] <ejofee> s/it/this/
[07:38] <poningru> cicada: what wireless card are you using?
[07:38] <poningru> ejofee: yes ofcourse
[07:38] <poningru> ejofee: read the launchpad page on this
[07:38] <cicada> poningru: but my wireless card does show up in the device manager... ---- Prism 2.5 with orinoco drivers
[07:38] <ejofee> poningru: is it planned, too?
[07:38] <xulMunkee> oh boy, it's gonna be a _long_ night :(
[07:39] <ejofee> poningru: please give me a link to it
[07:39] <bshumate> xulMunkee: sometimes i use it...sometimes it uses me!
[07:39] <ejofee> poningru: and thank you for your answers
[07:39] <poningru> ejofee: hold on
[07:39] <ITSa341> I have one question, how dependable is the partitioning tool on the install cd? I had a drive hosed beyond recovery by a linux partitioning tool years ago.
[07:39] <cicada> poningru:  just not sure what step to take next
[07:39] <xulMunkee> bshumate, i wholeheartedly agree with the latter
[07:40] <poningru> ejofee: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuExpress
[07:40] <robotgeek> cicada: which wireless card again?
[07:40] <windowmaker> arts is a table sound system, now that i ahve you attention is there any way to prevent a certain program from connecting to the internet?
[07:40] <cdubya> what's the package name I need to make sure that I get all of kde installed?
[07:40] <windowmaker> stable*
[07:40] <cicada> robotgeek: Prism 2.5 with orinoco pci driver
[07:40] <ejofee> poningru: thank you
[07:40] <intelikey> ITSa341 i haven't heard of anyone really having any problem with it other than nubs that don't know how to read.
[07:40] <robotgeek> cicada: no manufacturer of card
[07:40] <Madpilot> xulMunkee: if you've got Docbook questions, you might want to try #ubuntu-doc - Docbook XML is used in the Ubuntu docs, and some of the doc people are pretty good at it..
[07:41] <xulMunkee> Madpilot, thanks!!
[07:41] <ITSa341> intelikey  cool, like I said, that was years ago
[07:41] <poningru> cicada: hmm and it doesnt show up in network manager?
[07:41] <robotgeek> cicada: well, you said pci. my interest ends there :)
[07:41] <cicada> robotgeek: intersil
[07:41] <cicada> yes it shows up in network preferrences
[07:41] <poningru> then whats the prob?
[07:41] <poningru> does it not work?
[07:41] <poningru> hold on brb
[07:42] <intelikey> ITSa341 i (hatest to admit it) let mdraid fry a drive just a few weeks back but that has nothing to do with the install cd.
[07:42] <cicada> can't get it to connect to my access point.... works fine under windows
[07:42] <ITSa341> Ahh, another question. Is there support for temp and fan speed monitoring and or processor speed control comparable to AMD's Powernow or SpeedswitchXP?
[07:43] <intelikey> not sure about specifics like amd but yes there are apps ITSa341
[07:43] <durt> its activated right cicada?
[07:43] <cicada> is there any way i can get some kinda info on whether it can see my access point... yes it is active
[07:44] <ITSa341> I run from battery a lot of the time and AMD's Powernow  and Speedswitch help with battery time and temp. Temp is a major factor on the eMachine M5305.
[07:44] <intelikey> ITSa341 my hardware is so old it doesnt have fan control support.  hardwired to the ps
[07:44] <durt> iwlist wlan0 scan
[07:44] <cicada> durt: thanks mate
[07:44] <durt> wow - i just ran that and i can see 2 of my neighbors unencrypted networks ;)
[07:45] <windowmaker> durt: awesome
[07:45] <ITSa341> I can't wait to try this on my gaming machine. It runs fast from the cdrom on this laptop it'll scream on my gamer
[07:45] <windowmaker> durt: steal their broadbadn internet!
[07:45] <Madpilot> durt: so use them and save yourself a broadband bill! :)
[07:45] <cicada> durt: iwlist eth0 scan
[07:45] <cicada> eth0      Interface doesn't support scannin
[07:45] <windowmaker> durt: i know an evil fellow who bought a satellite dish JUST for the purpose of staeling his neighbour's broadband
[07:45] <cdubya> !kdemultimedia
[07:45] <ubotu> cdubya: Are you on ritalin?
[07:46] <intelikey> hehhe i'm talking to you on a p133mmx ITSa341 :)     yeah linux is kewl ya know
[07:46] <cicada> i can't seem to get any of the wireless extensions to do anything
[07:46] <windowmaker> intelikey: i once overclocked one of them to 300mhz, and then one day we had a power surge and it killed 32mb of ram
[07:46] <ITSa341> I have made probably 20 to 30 "cantennas" from dish network dishes. I "shared"y internet connection from my house to my g/f's house   6 miles away
[07:47] <poningru> ITSa341: nice
[07:47] <ITSa341> shared **my**
[07:47] <durt> cicada: does iwconfig return any wireless extensions?
[07:47] <cicada> eth0      IEEE 802.11-DS  ESSID:"cicada"  Nickname:"Prism  I"
[07:47] <cicada>           Mode:Managed  Bit Rate:11 Mb/s
[07:47] <cicada>           RTS thr:off
[07:47] <cicada>           Encryption key:D7FE-7DA4-E890-4662-023D-DC8E-D9   Security mode:open
[07:47] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[07:47] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:47] <cicada> is the ESSID meant to be the id of my access point?
[07:48] <robotgeek> cicada: yes
[07:48] <windowmaker> !ubotu
[07:48] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me.  RH and others shun newbies. This is nice.
[07:48] <windowmaker> !crack
[07:48] <ubotu> The primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.
[07:48] <windowmaker> HAHA
[07:48] <windowmaker> AWESOME
[07:48] <robotgeek> lol
[07:48] <xulMunkee> has anyone successfully converted from docbook-xml to PDF using xmlto on ubuntu?
[07:48] <durt> is it possible to join 2 wireless networks at once?
[07:48] <windowmaker> !docbook-xml
[07:48] <ubotu> windowmaker: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:48] <_jason> ha that's a good one
[07:49] <intelikey> so i'm like using this pre-windows 95 machine with 64m of ram and no swap running kde (some times console right now)  and i hear these folks come in here and ask if ubuntu will run on their box with only 512m ram and 2g of swap.   and i'm  like  duh, yeah!
[07:49] <windowmaker> aw
[07:49] <windowmaker> !windows
[07:49] <ubotu> [windows]  unnecessary, everything runs in Linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office or find an !alternative, or what you remove to make room for kubuntu
[07:49] <xulMunkee> lol
[07:49] <cicada> cept my wireless =(
[07:49] <windowmaker> !alternative
[07:49] <ubotu> well, alternative is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[07:49] <windowmaker> this thing is great!
[07:49] <robotgeek> !msgthebot
[07:49] <windowmaker> !msgthebot
[07:49] <windowmaker> nothing
[07:49] <windowmaker> !nothing
[07:49] <_jason> ha he messaged you...
[07:49] <ubotu> windowmaker: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:49] <windowmaker> HAH
[07:49] <robotgeek> windowmaker: check your pm
[07:50] <windowmaker> !no
[07:50] <ubotu> Ahh, too bad, I really thought so...
[07:50] <cicada> what should i try next fellas?
[07:50] <varsendagger> hey i can't seem to get qcad to do anything really, how do i make a friggen line and cahnge the distance of the line?
[07:50] <intelikey> this one guy with 2g of ram was so worried because he forgot to make a swap partition ...  and i'm like with 2g of ram why swap ?
[07:50] <windowmaker> in PM the ubotu doesn't understand anything =\
[07:51] <windowmaker> !pm
[07:51] <ubotu> pm is, like, totally, Ask your questions in the channel so that other people may also benefit from answers received.
[07:51] <xulMunkee> !ubotu
[07:51] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[07:51] <durt> thats a helluva lot of ram
[07:51] <Madpilot> windowmaker: leave the ! off when you're talking to the bot in /msg
[07:51] <windowmaker> Madpilot oh cool
[07:51] <CaptainMorgan> does ubuntu make use a destop.ini file ?
[07:51] <ejofee> poningru: then i guess it won't even be necessary to use the current text-based installer... will it be added any longer?
[07:51] <intelikey> tell me
[07:51] <varsendagger> anyone?
[07:51] <CaptainMorgan> my cursor has frozen and I can't get it back to normal..
[07:51] <Killer_Smurf> hello all.  I have an interesting issue.  I have an acer lappy running breezy.  when I did the install I had 2x256 RAM.  Yesterday I changed to 2x512 RAM and could not boot up.  Tried 1 256 and 1 512 and no go.  tried 1 512 and no problems.  How can I add Ram without reinstalling or is it possible?
[07:53] <cicada> Intersil got bought by Conexant... and they have no info about the old intersil products
[07:53] <ejofee> why, is LILO more reliable than GRUB!? ("Since we only intend to offer GRUB as the bootloader on i386/amd64 systems, we may need to disable some partitioning choices that currently cause the installer to fall back to LILO.")
[07:53] <cicada> it's only 3 years old
[07:53] <Quequeg> Killer_Smurf, try booting memtest86 from CD or floppy with the new memory to confirm it works in a neutral environment.
[07:53] <intelikey> if ya ax'in me about the ram, you ax'n the wrong guy....
[07:53] <dennis__> !breezy
[07:53] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:53] <Killer_Smurf> Quequeq done... it's ok
[07:53] <cicada> why won't my wireless externsions work
[07:53] <dennis__> hmm
[07:54] <dennis__> the ubuntu wiki isn't working :/
[07:54] <crimsun> ejofee: there are instances where grub cannot work due to the placement of /boot
[07:54] <Quequeg> Killer_Smurf, so you don't even get a grub/lilo error?
[07:54] <_jason> dennis__, ?
[07:54] <CaptainMorgan> does ubuntu make use a destop.ini file ?
[07:54] <CaptainMorgan> my cursor has frozen and I can't get it back to normal..
[07:54] <dennis__> It isn't loading _jason
[07:54] <_jason> dennis__, strange, it's loading here
[07:54] <CaptainMorgan> i think I may have delted it
[07:54] <dennis__> Hmm
[07:55] <dennis__> Maybe i should update everything in ubuntu first
[07:55] <dennis__> :/
[07:55] <xulMunkee> CaptainMorgan, if ur using gnome it keeps all its settings in ~/.gconf.d
[07:55] <intelikey> CaptainMorgan [ctrl] +[alt] +[backspace]
[07:55] <dennis__> I just installed 5.04
[07:55] <xulMunkee> CaptainMorgan, (correction) ~/.gconfd
[07:55] <cicada> I have no idea where to go next.. this is really frustrating.
[07:55] <dennis__> And firefox isn't working
[07:55] <dennis__> :/
[07:55] <ejofee> crimsun: oh, that's why my ubuntu could not boot (with grub installed on a partition instead of the mbr)
[07:55] <CaptainMorgan> I set ctrl to locate the cursor... i hit and location is apparent but the cursor Im seeing elswhere looks like a +
[07:55] <Killer_Smurf> no it gets past that and I get and apic error for the cpu ... then it freezes tring to load the acpi mods.  it works with the mem chips individ. but not it I try and change the amounts.  It says somthing about trying to resume
[07:56] <ejofee> crimsun: but why then is grub considered more advanced than lilo?!
[07:56] <_jason> dennis, go to about:config and filter for 'ipv6' set disable ipv6 to TRUE
[07:56] <_jason> dennis__, ^
[07:56] <dennis__> k
[07:56] <dennis__> thanks
[07:56] <crimsun> ejofee: it has different features
[07:56] <ejofee> crimsun: ... and... is this supposed to change in the future?
[07:56] <Linuturk> alas, despite robotgeek's best efforts, we have failed at my wireless card :( I am off to sleep to dream a nightmare of bash compile commands :(
[07:56] <crimsun> ejofee: not unless grub is rewritten
[07:56] <Cryptid> I am Plnning to Buy a XFX 6600 PCI-e Card,,,, is it compatible with Ubuntu???????
[07:56] <robotgeek> crimsun: easiest way to install gcc-3.4?
[07:56] <dennis__> !breezy
[07:56] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:57] <Quequeg> Killer_Smurf, I'm not sure I'm going to be much help, but for the record, what is the CPU/chipset/MB/memory type/speed?
[07:57] <robotgeek> no ned connection
[07:57] <intelikey> he'll be back as soon as gnome starts....
[07:57] <robotgeek> net conection, err
[07:57] <ejofee> crimsun: then ubuntu should use lilo by default, so that as few newbyes as possible would have problems with booting. right?