[02:40] <mdh76> reya276, you're welcome
[02:40] <larson9999> NickGarvey, i mean when i put a word or phrase in the url location that's not a url it uses yahoo to do the search.
[02:41] <Jonathan_R> how well does smartpm work?
[02:41] <loligager> GRUB help needed
[02:41] <loligager> Any experts??
[02:41] <woli> how can i add a sound to the beep system event?
[02:41] <NickGarvey> larson9999: http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/archive/how-to-change-your-firefox-location-bar-search-engine/
[02:41] <Dillizar> >> Broadcom
[02:41] <Flannel> !anyone | loligager
[02:41] <Broadcom> gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:41]  * Vicfred is listening pornophonique - rock'n'roll hall of fame ( Album: 8-bit lagerfeuer / Year: 2007 / Genre: Pop / Songtime: 4:02)
[02:41] <woli> for example, i have it enabled that instead of the annoying beep the pc makes, the screen is flashed black... but i want also a sound
[02:41] <Flannel> Vicfred: Please turn that off
[02:41] <Broadcom> **Dillizar
[02:41] <eisenhower> Bah. okay.. does anyone know how to view the comments of a rar file?
[02:42] <Broadcom> !rar | eisenhower
[02:42] <Dillizar> Broadcom: if i paste it to ya can you see the problem??
[02:42] <Broadcom> Dillizar: sure
[02:42] <jcsteele> i have a script that needs to be ran at boot to download a file using curl, and also moves some files around on the fs and uses tar, but i am unsure which runlevel to place it in...in ideas?
[02:42] <Broadcom> Dillizar: i can try
[02:42] <Dillizar> mmmm what was is the page?
[02:42] <loligager> ok, before i logged in as a diffrent user, i asked how to dule boot ubuntu with fedora, a guy game me a link, can anyone find it?/
[02:42] <Dillizar> !paste
[02:42] <Nitricacid> Anyone here use kate as a text editor I could use some help with configging it. Also Guido shot first.
[02:43] <Broadcom> !anyone | Nitricacid
[02:43] <ksweeley> Light: What do I type into the console to get build-essentials?
[02:43] <Goone> I fucked your dad.
[02:43] <Flannel> !ops | Goone
[02:43] <Light-> loligager: just install Fedora after you install ubuntu, Fedoras bootloader will pick up Ubuntu and give you a choice at which one to boot at startup
[02:43] <snarkste2> nice language
[02:43] <Goone> Hahaha.
[02:43] <loligager> light it didnt
[02:43] <eisenhower> Broadcom: that didn't help unfortunently
[02:43] <Light-> ksweely: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:43] <larson9999> NickGarvey, i already did that.  it's always been set to that.
[02:43] <dug_> Nitricacid: I don't use kate, but isn't that a KDE application? maybe someone on a kde or kubuntu channel would know more
[02:43] <Flannel> loligager, Light-, or install Ubuntu after Fedora, and Ubuntu will pick it up, etc.  Either way, just install one, then the other.
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry I lagged on that
[02:43] <Broadcom> eisenhower: why not?
[02:43] <Dillizar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13978/ Broadcom
[02:44] <Broadcom> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[02:44] <eisenhower> Broadcom: I just want to view the comments of the rar. I know how to extract and archive files...
[02:44] <Dillizar> hmmmm the last time it was bigger Broadcom?
[02:44] <Broadcom> eisenhower: use that to view it too
[02:44] <eisenhower> idk. they don't have anything in the documentation too
[02:44] <woli> whats the registry entry for the beep event?
[02:44] <eisenhower> well they have only to write.. not to read
[02:44] <Broadcom> Dillizar: what do you mean?
[02:44] <Light-> woli: lol registry
[02:44] <Liquid-A> Flannel: So what do you recommend I do if Ubuntu wont pick up my unpartitioned IDE drive?
[02:45] <woli> emmm gconf?
[02:45] <larson9999> Light-, errr, gnome has a registry.  one of the things i dislike about gnome
[02:45] <NickGarvey> larson9999: and it does yahoo anyway?  I just changed it to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ and it works perfect
[02:45] <Light-> larson9999: wow I did not know that
[02:45] <Flannel> Liquid-A: This is the second drive? or third? or what?
[02:45] <weens> Is it possible to install ubuntu on a  macbook and triple boot, with xp sp2 already installed?
[02:45] <Liquid-A> Second.
[02:45] <woli> registry is what makes an OS organized, larson999
[02:46] <weens> along with leopard
[02:46] <Dillizar> Broadcom: the "list" was bigger it had more info !!!
[02:46] <Light-> woli: judging by windows.... not really
[02:46] <dug_> eisenhower: are you using unrar-free or the nonfree one?  I have the non-free one and it says it shows comments (there is a -c- option to disable)
[02:46] <dug_> the non-free one is in the medibuntu repository
[02:46] <Broadcom> Dillizar: when?
[02:46] <Flannel> Liquid-A: `ls -al /dev/sdb` gives you what?
[02:46] <ksweeley> Light: What do I type in to uninstall Open Sound System sound drivers for Linux?
[02:46] <larson9999> NickGarvey, yeah it still goes to yahoo.  i'll change it to wiki and see if it takes
[02:46] <woli> there's been people that 64xboot
[02:46] <woli> in the record guinness, weens
[02:46] <weens> the wiki tutorial on triple booting assumes you are installing windows for the first time, I just dont know if this is required...
[02:46] <Liquid-A> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 16 2008-05-23 03:13 /dev/sdb
[02:46] <woli> emmm... ubuntu has a registry also, Light
[02:46] <eisenhower> dug_: i'm not sure. i'm on hardy so i would imagine the the nonfree
[02:47] <woli> launch gconf and watch it yourself
[02:47] <Broadcom> Dillizar: this might help, im not sure if it was solved though https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/34527
[02:47] <Flannel> Liquid-A: There you go.  That's your second harddrive.  You probably don't have a sdb1, because its unpartitioned.
[02:47] <loebas> hey, i'm trying to reset the saved_state file in ~/.gconfd but thus doesn't seem to work. every time i login it is the old file again. Any idea how to solve this?
[02:47] <Dillizar> the last time i send it but then i was useing 7.04
[02:47] <Light-> ksweely: whya re you trying to do that?
[02:47] <snarkste2> getting the live ubuntu cd to load on this computer was a pain in the butt..
[02:47] <jm2k> in command-line, how do i send an input to a python program, like:  echo 'username' > python open-gmail.py    ?
[02:47] <scifiguy951> i cant access my login window config thing.
[02:47] <ksweeley> Light: I tried to install OSS, it's not launching.
[02:47] <Light-> ksweely: you need to find out the name of the package, then "sudo apt-get uninstall <name of package>"
[02:47] <scifiguy951> it wont open
[02:48] <Broadcom> Dillizar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/3731 maybe this?
[02:48] <Dillizar> Broadcom: Xorg its the grafic card??
[02:48] <dug_> jm2k: you might try | instead of > perhaps
[02:48] <scifiguy951> NVM
[02:48] <GoldeNArX> hey guys.  i'm running 8.04 (jeos) in a virtual machine but I cant get the NIC to detect / configure anymore
[02:48] <Broadcom> Dillizar: im not sure
[02:48] <GoldeNArX> it doesnt list under ifconfig
[02:48] <woli> well, whats the entry name for the system beep anyone...??
[02:48] <GoldeNArX> how would I add it?
[02:48] <larson9999> woli, a registry is what makes an OS too much like windows
[02:48] <Stephenishere> I cant get my nvidia drivers to work off the guide i followed : ( when i type glxgears this is what i receive, Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:48] <Stephenishere> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[02:48] <Stephenishere>           any help would be appreciated
[02:48] <Dillizar> Broadcom: thats the problem
[02:48] <Liquid-A> Flannel: So where do I go from here, to actually get on the drive?
[02:48] <Light-> GoldeNarx: what VM are you using?
[02:48] <GoldeNArX> server 2.0
[02:48] <mdh76> scifiguy951, is sudo whining about an unknown hostname?
[02:48] <GoldeNArX> the beta. perviously this worked
[02:48] <Broadcom> Dillizar: will that fix it?
[02:48] <Dillizar> Broadcom: i have 107E6 not 105
[02:48] <__aib> is there a way to tell apt to go ahead and install a package even if you cant find a dependency
[02:48] <woli> larson9999, launch gconf, and youll see ubuntu's registry
[02:48] <Light-> GoldeNarX: sorry ive only ever used VirtualBox
[02:48] <Broadcom> Dillizar: should not be too different
[02:48] <dug_> woli: you want to disable the system beep?
[02:48] <woli> i bet even mac has a registry
[02:49] <Flannel> Liquid-A: Well, you need to partition it, so fire up a partitioner (gparted) and partition/format etc, then you can mount it, and add it to your fstab/etc
[02:49] <mdh76> scifiguy951, several times something overwrote my /etc/hosts file and sudo refused to work, so all config stuff was broken.
[02:49] <woli> dug_ i want to launch a sound when system beep is launched
[02:49] <snarkste2> yes use the --force option but thats dumb
[02:49] <Liquid-A> Right, so partition without loosing data? Is that possible?
[02:49] <larson9999> woli, i've been using ubuntu for years.  i know it's regitstry.  just don't like it.
[02:49] <Flannel> woli: gconf is not Ubuntus registry.  Where do you want the beep? is this in a terminal, or what?
[02:49] <Dillizar> Broadcom: 105 its for 15'' and 107 its for 17''
[02:49] <Light-> Liquid-A: nope
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> __aib not the best choice..
[02:49] <Flannel> Liquid-A: If its unpartitioned, you have no data on it.
[02:49] <mdh76> scifiguy951, I eventually booted in rescue mode, fixed the /etc/hosts file, and chmodded it 0444 ;)
[02:49] <woli> emmm...
[02:49] <WhoNeedszzz> My problem with firestarter is that i have to add the outside connection to my allowed connection list even though i've added port 80 as open to all
[02:50] <VSpike> just tried a non-lvm install of 8.04 server and it breaks in the same way so it's not lvm
[02:50] <woli> i just want to launch a sound when system beep is called... i thought registry would help me do that
[02:50] <__aib> jack_sparrow, its my own repository.
[02:50] <VSpike> damn that's annoying
[02:50] <larson9999> lol@ holding mac up as an OS model
[02:50] <Flannel> VSpike: which way does it break?
[02:50] <__aib> anyway, i just want to know how. whose to say whether its a good choice. there are lots of reasons for doing lots of things.
[02:50] <woli> larson9999, i can't think a os without registry would be as easy to customize as ubuntu
[02:50] <q_a_z_steve> How do I get help upgrading from 6.06 to 8.04? It wouldn't let me because I don't have enough room in /boot (partition is 31.5MB)
[02:50] <WhoNeedszzz> pm me if you think you can help me with firestarter
[02:50] <Nitricaci1> i want to know the answer to WhoNeedszzz question, im in the same boat
[02:51] <Flannel> q_a_z_steve: Remove any old kernels you've got (keep the current one, obviously)
[02:51] <VSpike> It says "This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU: 0 :6" "Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU."
[02:51] <ksweeley> Light: How do I get OSS to run in Ubuntu 8.04?
[02:51] <VSpike> Flannel: ^
[02:51] <WhoNeedszzz> oh then nvm say it here
[02:51] <jm2k> dug_: wouldnt && work ?
[02:51] <Light-> Vspike: are you trying to run 64bit on a 32bit cpu?
[02:51] <Flannel> VSpike: try the alternate CD instead of the server CD.  It supports more general-computer hardware
[02:51] <q_a_z_steve> !OSS
[02:51] <Light-> ksweely: use ALSA
[02:51] <jm2k> i did piping ubt didnt work either.
[02:51] <WhoNeedszzz> what are you trying to do Nitricaci1?
[02:51] <Nitricaci1> run a Lamp server
[02:51] <q_a_z_steve> ksweeley: OSS what?
[02:51] <VSpike> Flannel: is this hardware just too old?
[02:51] <woli> well, does anybody know the answer to my question
[02:52] <ksweeley> Light: ALSA does not support my soundcard, OSS does.'
[02:52] <woli> ?
[02:52] <WhoNeedszzz> ok so exactly the same as me
[02:52] <Nitricaci1> mine is working fine though
[02:52] <VSpike> Light-: nope, it's not a 64 bit cd
[02:52] <Nitricaci1> i just changed the port
[02:52] <Nitricaci1> and im all set
[02:52] <Flannel> VSpike: No, the server CD is geared towards "real" servers.  The generic kernel supports more hardware
[02:52] <WhoNeedszzz> oh?
[02:52] <Light-> Vspike: dunno then
[02:52] <Nitricaci1> thats what i was gonna say in pm
[02:52] <dug_> WhoNeedszzz, Nitricaci1: can't help with firestarter, but an alternative for servers especially is shorewall, see: http://edtechdev.blogspot.com/2007/11/quickly-setting-up-and-securing-ubuntu.html
[02:52] <Nitricaci1> but then you never responded :-x
[02:52] <VSpike> Flannel: rats, that means i gotta download it :)
[02:52] <Scared> How do I find the IP that I can use to see my apache site from my laptop that is on the same network?
[02:52] <Light-> ksweely: sorry cant help you, ive never used OSS as my sound card is supported in ALSA
[02:52] <VSpike> Flannel: there's no way to install the generic kernel on this install?
[02:53] <Flannel> VSpike: You could always download the minimal ISO, which is 8mb, of course thenyou've gotta download all the packages at install time.
[02:53] <Nitricaci1> Scared ifconfig on the apache machine
[02:53] <Broadcom> Scared ifconfig
[02:53] <Scared> kk thanks.
[02:53] <afallenhope> anyone know where I can get the driver for my LG 8600 phone?
[02:53] <Flannel> VSpike: I... don't think so.  Let me check.
[02:53] <WhoNeedszzz> Nitricaci1: oh are you the same as Nitricacid?
[02:53] <Nitricaci1> yea
[02:53] <WhoNeedszzz> oh
[02:53] <ksweeley> q_a_z_steve: OSS 4.0-1015 for AMD64 build.
[02:53] <WhoNeedszzz> u never responded to me
[02:53] <Nitricaci1> for some reason it booted me
[02:53] <Nitricaci1> yea it booted me
[02:53] <WhoNeedszzz> ah
[02:53] <WhoNeedszzz> ok
[02:53] <WhoNeedszzz> oh so a ghost
[02:53] <WhoNeedszzz> ok then i will change the port
[02:53] <utui> Deuteronomy 22 (21st Century King James Version)
[02:53] <utui> 21st Century King James Version (KJ21)
[02:53] <utui> Copyright © 1994 by Deuel Enterprises, Inc.
[02:53] <utui> [KJ21 at Deuel]
[02:53] <utui> Deuteronomy 22
[02:53] <FloodBot1> utui: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:54] <utui>  1"Thou shalt not see thy brother's ox or his sheep go astray, and hide thyself from them. Thou shalt in any case bring them back unto thy brother.
[02:54] <Nitricaci1> use 800
[02:54] <Broadcom> afallenhope: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=721804
[02:54] <Nitricaci1> or 8000
[02:54] <WhoNeedszzz> ok thanks Nitricaci1
[02:54] <Nitricaci1> dont use anything below 80
[02:54] <WhoNeedszzz> ok
[02:54] <Broadcom> !prefix
[02:54] <dug_> WhoNeedszzz: you can kill the process instead of using a different port if you want
[02:54] <crimsun> ksweeley: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base, and choose to blacklist ALSA
[02:54] <Flannel> VSpike: there may be, yes.  That CD does have the generic kernel on it.  Try checking out the different menus at boot.
[02:54] <q_a_z_steve> why did they separate "liveCD mode" and "install"?
[02:54] <WhoNeedszzz> what do you mean dug_?
[02:54] <Nitricaci1> dug_:  that wont work i tried that
[02:54] <Nitricaci1> i think his isp blocks 80
[02:54] <Nitricaci1> like mine does
[02:54] <Nitricaci1> all the same symptoms
[02:54] <WhoNeedszzz> ok i'll just change the port
[02:54] <Flannel> q_a_z_steve: Er... In dapper? or you talking about in newer ones?
[02:54] <dug_> oh ok,
[02:55] <VSpike> Flannel: you mean boot from cd or boot from disk?
[02:55] <Broadcom> !enter | nitricaci1
[02:55] <afallenhope> Broadcom: thanks. I didn't know that bitpim had the drivers haha
[02:55] <q_a_z_steve> heron
[02:55] <crimsun> ksweeley: then, install the OSSv4 parts, and set GStreamer et al. to use OSS instead of ALSA
[02:55] <WhoNeedszzz> thanks again
[02:55] <Flannel> VSpike: boot from the CD
[02:55] <q_a_z_steve> Flannel: Heron,
[02:55] <Liquid-A> Flannel: I've loaded up GParted, its saying its NTFS, but what I cant understand how the drive can be working one minute, then fail to be recognised the next, and if i change the FS to ext3, will I lose all the data on it?
[02:55] <ksweeley>  crimsun: I'm new to Ubuntu, how do I set gstreamer to use OSS?
[02:55] <Flannel> q_a_z_steve: the Desktop CD is a liveCD, with an installer on it.  The alternate CD is the old "Installer" CD, which is just debinstaller.
[02:55] <q_a_z_steve> or can you install from the GUI?
[02:55] <GoldeNArX> ok guys were do I look for the eth0 drivers and config on this?
[02:55] <VSpike> Flannel: i was trying to install it from the rescue mode but without much success
[02:55] <Broadcom> !install
[02:56] <Flannel> q_a_z_steve: You can install form both yes.  That was not the case in Dapper, where we had a liveCD, and an install CD.  And you couldn't install from the liveCD
[02:56] <GoldeNArX> I have one that is fully functional I want to copy the network driver settings and what not over to the other ubuntu box
[02:56] <S3xyBeast> Hi
[02:56] <Broadcom> !hi | S3xyBeast
[02:56] <S3xyBeast> Thanks :)
[02:56] <snarkste2> you need to mount it mount -t /dev/<drive> /media/mountpoint -o force
[02:56] <snarkste2> sorry -t ntfs-3g
[02:56] <Flannel> Liquid-A: Yes.  I thought you said it was unformatted?  Pastebin the output of `sudo fdisk -l`  please (that's a lowercase L)
[02:56] <scifiguy951> how do i make that annoyence of a sound go away when i log in?
[02:56] <bluefoxx> bluefoxx@azUre-prIDE:~$ sudo chown bluefoxx:bluefoxx /home/bluefoxx/RAID_5-1/
[02:56] <bluefoxx> chown: changing ownership of `/home/bluefoxx/RAID_5-1/': Operation not permitted
[02:56] <Flannel> scifiguy951: Its in Sound preferences
[02:57] <bluefoxx>   the hell is that?
[02:57] <bluefoxx> if root isnt allowed to do that then who the hell is?
[02:57] <Flannel> bluefoxx: Is it mounted read-only?
[02:57] <ksweeley> crimsun: I'm new to Ubuntu, how do I configure gstreamer to utilize OSS instead of ALSA?
[02:57] <crimsun> ksweeley: set it using `gstreamer-properties'
[02:57] <GoldeNArX> or is there a way for me to make uit "scan" for a new network card?
[02:57] <dug_> scifiguy951: system->preferences->sound->sounds and turn off log in sound
[02:57] <bluefoxx> Flannel: its mounted with mount command, using root[since root is only allowed to]
[02:57] <Liquid-A> Flannel: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13984/
[02:57] <Flannel> VSpike: do you have a system installed already? or... I don't understand your situation I guess
[02:57] <TiTy> holas
[02:58] <scifiguy951> i did it thnx
[02:58] <tompouk> I'm trying to install ubuntu, but the alternative cd install tells me that it can't mount the cdrom :S What the hell? It has loaded the install from the cd, now it is verifying the cd and it can't load it any more :S
[02:58] <woli> if anyone also wanted to know the system bell registry key, just look for 'bell' in gconf.. you will get several entries
[02:58] <Broadcom> !hi | TiTy
[02:58] <woli> like bell_custom_sound
[02:58] <TiTy> alguien habla español aca?
[02:58] <TiTy> xD
[02:58] <ksweeley> Crimsun: I'm getting "OSS - Open Sound System: Could not open audio device for playback."
[02:58] <GoldeNArX> I guess what I'm asking is say I added a new nic to this ubuntu... how would I get it to recognize that nic?
[02:58] <Flannel> Liquid-A: you have three drives.  Did you know that?
[02:58] <Flannel> !es | TiTy
[02:58] <woli> yop
[02:58] <Broadcom> !es
[02:58] <crimsun> ksweeley: are the OSSv4 drivers loaded?
[02:58] <Liquid-A> Flannel: Yes. Two internal, 1 External.
[02:58] <bluefoxx> Flannel: its my reformatted raid array, after i "upgraded" the drives, formatted as fat32 since i have windows back for games and *some* media
[02:58] <q_a_z_steve> Flannel: So what's with the boot options? http://tombuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/hardyheronalpha5_1.jpg
[02:58] <VSpike> Flannel: yeah the install completes but then breaks when it reboots
[02:58] <ksweeley> Crimsun: How do I check if the OSS v4 drivers are loaded?
[02:59] <fxr> can someone suggest ideas why my 2 monitors arnt coming up in nvidia settings? on AMD64 ,. i installed the binary drivers from nvidias website,  i hadnt these issues on feisty..
[02:59] <VSpike> flannel: so i just booted from CD again and selected "rescue broken system"
[02:59] <weens> anyone know if it's possible to triple boot, Leopard, XP, and Ubunutu even if leopard and xp are already installed
[02:59] <snarkste2> later guys
[02:59] <VSpike> Flannel: so i now have the root system mounted and a terminal
[02:59] <afallenhope> Broadcom: so I basically just have to type sudo apt-get install bitpim right?
[02:59] <Flannel> VSpike: I'd try just reinstlaling from the CD, there should be a way to install a non-server kernel
[02:59] <weens> on a macbook, 2.16ghz
[02:59] <ksweeley> Crimsun: How do I check if the OSS v4 drivers are loaded?
[02:59] <Broadcom> afallenhope: yes
[03:00] <VSpike> Flannel: can't see one in the menu
[03:00] <crimsun> ksweeley: did you run the OSSv4 install script?
[03:00] <tompouk> Could someone help me please?
[03:00] <ksweeley> Yes.
[03:00] <Flannel> q_a_z_steve: The first option boots to the live mode, from there you can install.  The second boots to the same installer as on the LiveCD, but without the rest of the live system (ubiquity-only)
[03:00] <Broadcom> tompouk: ask
[03:00] <crimsun> ksweeley: and soundon?
[03:00] <pedro_> como entro no ubuntu brasil
[03:00] <afallenhope> Broadcom: it picks it up as a modem but I can't view the filesystem
[03:00] <Broadcom> !pg
[03:00] <Flannel> VSpike: Try f4?  I'm not really sure if its possible, but the generic kernel is on the disc, so its not impossible.
[03:00] <tompouk> Broadcom I'm trying to install ubuntu, but the alternative cd install tells me that it can't mount the cdrom :S What the hell? It has loaded the install from the cd, now it is verifying the cd and it can't load it any more :S
[03:00] <dug_> !pt
[03:01] <pedro_> #ubuntu-br
[03:01] <mdh76> tompouk, maybe your cd is a bad burn :(  I've burnt coasters before...
[03:01] <Broadcom> dug_ ah that is what it is
[03:01] <Flannel> Liquid-A: sdc is your NTFS drive.  Not sdb, you should be able to mount sdc1 as your NTFS drive, and you do recognize it as NTFS right now
[03:01] <bluefoxx> reforrmatting my array...whats better: ext2 or ext3? im using it for my music for the most part
[03:01] <ksweeley> crimsun: I did sudo soundon and I get "No /usr/lib/oss/etc/installed_drivers - cannot continue"
[03:01] <WhoNeedszzz> Nitricaci1, you there?
[03:01] <Starnestommy> bluefoxx: ext3
[03:01] <afallenhope> Broadcom:  would I have to sudo to run bitpim?
[03:01] <Broadcom> afallenhope: not to run it, but to install it yes
[03:01] <Nitricaci1> WhoNeedszzz: can you read my pms?
[03:01] <bluefoxx> Starnestommy: kk
[03:01] <tompouk> mdh76 I burnt 4 differents cds :S
[03:01] <WhoNeedszzz> Nitricaci1 i don't see any
[03:02] <Broadcom> tompouk: not sure, ask again in this channel
[03:02] <Nitricaci1> WhoNeedszzz: yea im here, just my chat software being stupid
[03:02] <Starnestommy> Nitricaci1: you might need to be registered and identified to PM people
[03:02] <WhoNeedszzz> ah ok
[03:02] <mdh76> tompouk, md5sum check the .iso file to make sure its okay, and burn at 8x instead of faster.  that generally works.
[03:02] <tompouk> I'm trying to install ubuntu, but the alternative cd install tells me that it can't mount the cdrom :S What the hell? It has loaded the install from the cd, now it is verifying the cd and it can't load it any more :S
[03:02] <WhoNeedszzz> so i have a problem
[03:02] <Nitricaci1> WhoNeedszzz:  ya i can read it
[03:02] <Broadcom> Starnestommy: just start a channel
[03:02] <WhoNeedszzz> ah
[03:02] <ksweeley> crimsun: I did sudo soundon and I get "No /usr/lib/oss/etc/installed_drivers - cannot continue" When I open the install script, it says "Same version is already installed"
[03:02] <Nitricaci1> WhoNeedszzz: join #nitty
[03:02] <Liquid-A> Flannel: Im in GParted now, and its saying that SBC is the external (the disk thats mounted) and sbd (the ntfs i cant mount)
[03:02] <jm2k> Got a python script accessing Gmail via python, when executing script, urllib asks for HTTPBasicAuth then waits for user input. I want to send (via basic linux command), when executing python script, the username/pass beforehand "python gmail.py && username && password" thus it goes into the HTTPBasicAuth without retyping. Any takers?
[03:02] <afallenhope> Broadcom: because I used "sudo apt-get install bitpim" and it's not pickin up my phone... I went into the manual settings and set my phone as a LG 8600 and manually selected the COM port
[03:03] <mangojambo> hello there china ... I'm having a problem trying to boot hardy CD (initramfs)... I tried to boot with that options: all_generic_ide ... floppy=off ... and never worked ... I'd read about to put pci=nomsi ... but my HDs are IDE and not SATA!! there is no problem to try that?
[03:03] <Broadcom> jm2k try #python
[03:03] <chetnick> hi guys, my printer wont print no more, it just print "!PS-Adobe-3.0 %%Creator: cairo 1.6.0 (http://cairographics.org)) %%CreationDate:
[03:03] <chetnick> and than blank pages
[03:03] <fxr> can someone suggest ideas why my 2 monitors arnt coming up in nvidia settings? on AMD64 ,. i installed the binary drivers from nvidias website,  i hadnt these issues on feisty..
[03:03] <Broadcom> afallenhope: afrid i cant help you, ask again on the channel sorry.
[03:03] <hoggie> Hey all... im trying to figure out if my network interfaces are configured correctly.. when i ifconfig, i get 3 interfaces: lo (loopback), eth0 (ethernet card) , eth1 (ether..), when i iwconfig: lo (no wireless extensions) , eth0 (no wire...) , eth1 (unassociated ..)
[03:03] <mdh76> jm2k, you could just stick them on the command line and use sys.argv to get the contents
[03:03] <ksweeley> crimsun: I did sudo soundon and I get "No /usr/lib/oss/etc/installed_drivers - cannot continue" When I open the install script, it says "Same version is already installed"
[03:04] <mdh76> jm2k, sys.argv is a 0-indexed array
[03:04] <bogey-> What purpose do enteprrises use ubuntu for? I.e. webserver, database server, etc...
[03:04] <mdh76> jm2k, just remember doing it this way puts the username and password into the process list
[03:04] <jm2k> Broadcom: cant get in to #python.
[03:04] <jm2k> #python :You need to be identified to join that channel
[03:04] <Flannel> bogey-: Sure, and also workstations
[03:04] <VSpike> Flannel: what can i run to get a decent terminal emulator?
[03:05] <Flannel> VSpike: I have no idea.  I use ttys
[03:05] <VSpike> I'm in a busybox environment, but chrooted
[03:05] <crdlb> !register | jm2k
[03:05] <sazma> anyone running Heron64 able to get mozplugger to embed evince or gv or anything that isn't totem?
[03:05] <crdlb> jm2k: some channels, like #python require you to be registered
[03:05] <Broadcom> jm2k: register your username with /msg NickServ REGISTER <password>
[03:05] <jm2k> mdh76: i'm aware of it, but just testing the script and on my personal laptop.
[03:05] <dug_> fxr, i'm not sure, I use the nvidia-glx-new driver, and see the tips on getting a 2nd display (like a projector) to work: http://edtechdev.blogspot.com/2007/12/getting-projector-to-work-with-laptop.html
[03:05] <GoldeNArX> so to ask again guys... I have 2 identical ubuntu 8.04 (jeos) machines rolled up.  one sees "vmnet0" and the other does not.  how can I get the working machines ethernet / nic settings into the non working machine? (the non working one is the one that I need to work)
[03:05] <mdh76> some bastard stole my registration when the servers moved several years ago, I've never bothered to reapply
[03:05] <dug_> these tips
[03:05] <crimsun> ksweeley: and you're sure you need OSSv4?
[03:05] <crimsun> ksweeley: which card is this?
[03:06] <ksweeley> Yes, I have a Sound Blaster X-Fi.
[03:06] <fxr> ok thanks dug_  ll have a nose, m totally outta ideas here
[03:06] <ksweeley> Soundblaster X-Fi is not compatible with ALSA but is with OSS v4.
[03:06] <crimsun> ksweeley: which X-Fi?
[03:06] <digitalslave> anyone here good with pam i have pam_tally working but it only allows 1 login attempt with ssh before it cuts the connection - anyone know how to make it keep the connection for 3 attempts - deny=3 already
[03:06] <crimsun> ksweeley: even OSSv4 doesn't support all the models.
[03:07] <ksweeley> I have the basic X-Fi.
[03:07] <crimsun> ksweeley: which?
[03:07] <Lynet> Is there a generic wrapper somewhere to run 32bit firefox plugins in 64bit hardy?
[03:07] <crimsun> Lynet: nspluginwrapper.
[03:08] <JackWon1> hi nice to met you everybody
[03:08] <ksweeley> crimsun: This one: http://us.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=209&subcategory=669&product=15854
[03:08] <JackWon1> i'm newbie for Linux
[03:08] <deuryte> does any one know if ubuntu 8.04 is    posix  conformant ??
[03:08] <JackWon1> anyone can guide me?
[03:08] <JackWon1> Thanks
[03:09] <dug_> JackWon1: i'd just ask what questions you have, and someone here can probably help
[03:09] <dug_> !ask
[03:09] <mdh76> deuryte, which part of posix?
[03:09] <crimsun> ksweeley: err, you likely need Creative's beta driver instead.
[03:09] <ksweeley> crimsun: I get an error when I tried to run that.
[03:09] <JackWon1> i'm using ubuntu right now
[03:09] <JackWon1> i intend to learn linux from zero
[03:10] <JackWon1> how do i start?
[03:10] <Liquid-A> JackWon1: Which number do you intend to get to?
[03:10] <cycom> JackWon1: try gentoo
[03:10] <q_a_z_steve> K thanks guys
[03:10] <kgwillow> Ok I edit my xorg file and got it to recognize my i810 intel extreme graphics 2 video chipset. But now it's stuck in a different resolution. I'm trying to get it to 1280x1024. Here is my xorg http://pastebin.com/f6cffd46 any help would be appreciated.
[03:10] <mdl-unit> Is there any way to slow down terminal output of something (what I have in mind is tail -f)?
[03:11] <dug_> JackWon1: there are some beginner tutorials on the web on using ubuntu, http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=ubuntu+beginner+tutorial&btnG=Google+Search
[03:11] <dug_> or just play around and ask here if something breaks
[03:11] <deuryte> mdh76: well, not sure but am finding out through certain articles that if an os was not posix conformant, than it was only compliant wich means its compatability is hindered when concidering adding additional software
[03:11] <JackWon1> i don't know how to using the terminal
[03:11] <crimsun> ksweeley: which error?  It's best to ask on Creative's forum(s)
[03:11] <mdh76> deuryte that's probably posix.1 in which case you've been safe for decades with Linux
[03:12] <afallenhope> anyone know where the "/etc/hotplug/usb.usermap" is?
[03:12] <ksweeley> crimsun: I extracted the folder onto the desktop, what do I do to try the install?
[03:12] <afallenhope> lol. like.. it's not there..
[03:12] <afallenhope> the /etc/hotplug is not there
[03:12] <JackWon1> how do i adjust the brightness in my Laptop?
[03:12] <deuryte> mdh76: thanks,  ok, where does 1b  and 1c  come into play?   commercially ??
[03:12] <JackWon1> in Linux OS i can't make it
[03:13] <digitalslave> anyone here good with pam i have pam_tally working but it only allows 1 login attempt with ssh before it cuts the connection - anyone know how to make it keep the connection for 3 attempts - deny=3 already
[03:13] <dug_> JackWon1: here are some tutorials on using the terminal: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=990636 and brightness i usually adjust using the knobs on the monitor itself
[03:13] <imjesus_1> is their a program that is like publisher
[03:14] <ksweeley> crimsun: I get "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop. make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[03:14] <ksweeley> Installation Unsuccessful"
[03:15] <dug_> ksweeley: "cd" into the folder with the makefile first, then run ./configure or make or whatever
[03:15] <Liquid-A> so does anyone have an idea how an NTFS drive is usable for 3 days, and then suddently turns unusable?
[03:15] <cycom> Liquid-A: the drive failed...
[03:15] <Liquid-A> cycom: Define "Failed"
[03:16] <mdh76> deuryte, 1b defines RTOS extensions and 1c threading extensions... obviously parts of both are fully implemented though I'm not sure if either is fully.
[03:16] <cycom> Liquid-A: hardware issue...
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Liquid-A Windows locked it down...?
[03:16] <Liquid-A> cycom: Detected by BIOS, and is usable in windows.
[03:16] <dug_> !games
[03:16] <VSpike> Flannel: i was pretty much right before i think .. just had to do "export TERM=vt100" so that it was a recognised terminal and the configure scripts could run
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfsfix
[03:16] <cycom> Liquid-A: unclean shutdown?
[03:16] <sazma> anyone running Heron64 able to get mozplugger to embed evince or gv or anything that isn't totem?
[03:16] <mdh76> deuryte, there are some linux distributions like LynxOS that fully implement 1,1b&1c
[03:17] <deuryte> mdh76: thanks, just learning,  i do thank you for taking time to do dearch ... have a nice evening.........  central florida,
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> IS the factoid ntfstools?
[03:17] <getoo> i am dualbooting , is it possible to run a windows app (ie. yahoo messanger) in ubuntu . i am using hardy
[03:17] <deuryte> mdh76:  i saw that
[03:17] <smallfoot-> i have dualcore, 4gb ram, i want watch a porno in flash, and i press fullscreen, and it lags, why?
[03:17] <smallfoot-> in window mode, it dont lag, but in fullscreen it is lag
[03:18] <deuryte> mdh76:  what exactly is linxOS  used for?
[03:18] <cycom> getoo: just use Pidgin.  I'm pretty sure it can do yahoo messenger
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> getoo not from your windows install but in wine or vbox etc
[03:18] <zelrikriando> getoo, you can use you msn/yahoo/icq whatever accounts with pidgin on linux
[03:18] <mdh76> deuryte, the glibc manual might talk more about 1c
[03:18] <getoo> cycom: wont do chatrooms
[03:18] <ksweeley> I went through the install script for the Creative driver and I get: "install error 2"
[03:18] <Liquid-A> cycom: The latter sounds like a possibility, but its a non-essential disk, it doesnt get booted from, but Ubuntu seriously crashed before, the whole screen locked, nothing would move. So it was impossible for me to shut it down any other way.
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> getoo Yes pidgin can connect to yahoo im friends
[03:18] <dug_> smallfoot-: you need a restricted 3d driver to watch your porn better :)
[03:18] <mdh76> deuryte, LynxOS looks like its targetting the embedded market - POS terminals, ATMs etc
[03:18] <getoo> i mean u can get in read but none can see ya when typing
[03:18] <JackWon1> anyone willing to guide me i'm newbie of Linux please!
[03:19] <puff> I'm installing ubuntu from scratch on a new hard drive (old drive had a hardware failure).  This is the first time I've installed 8.0.4, the installation process appears to have changed abit.
[03:19] <mdh76> missile launch systems
[03:19] <smallfoot-> dug_, i have nvidia-glx-new 168.12 with gf8600
[03:19] <mdh76> space shuttles
[03:19] <mdh76> washing machines
[03:19] <illriginal> anyone know a good media server that I can run Ubuntu 8.04 so that my PS3 can connect and play media files?
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[03:19] <cycom> Liquid-A: try running chkdisk on it on windows
[03:19] <getoo> Jack_Sparrow: i know you can do friends , but i wana do chat rooms , and u cant be seen , as in typing only entered the room and exit
[03:19] <zelrikriando> hey isnt Yahoo chatrooms, irc servers?
[03:19] <getoo> thats it
[03:19] <Liquid-A> >.>
[03:19] <blizzardman1219[> hello. i'm trying to configure wpa supplicant to allow me to use my wireless card with an encrypted network. the directions i read tell me to edit the wpa_supplicant.conf file with some information that i've already found, but i can't find the wpa_supplicant.conf file anywhere
[03:19] <Liquid-A> That means releasing the devil from his cage...
[03:19] <puff> I'd like to set up specific hardware partitions, not one big LVM partition.  Does "guided" permit that, or should I do it manually?
[03:19] <Liquid-A> :(
[03:19] <deuryte> mdh76:  more of a universal security kernel ? proprietory to privacy ??
[03:19] <mdh76> blizzardman1219[, you need to create it.  I threw mine into /etc
[03:20] <puff> Hello?
[03:20] <Liquid-A> cycom: Does Ubuntu not have any chkdisk facilities?
[03:20] <cycom> Liquid-A: you're the sucker that decided to use NTFS :)
[03:20] <zelrikriando> getoo, which chatroom?
[03:20] <getoo> zelrikriando: anychatroom
[03:20] <deuryte> mdh76: well, i gotta get some sleep,  work am early, thanks fer all yer help...
[03:20] <Nitricaci1> Can anyone help me compile the client for www.no-ip.com on Hardy.
[03:20] <cycom> Liquid-A: I think ntfstools has it, but I dunno.
[03:20] <getoo> lets say linux, freebsd, solaris:1
[03:20] <JackWon1> hi anyone willing to guide me i'm newbie for Linux - Ubuntu!
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> puff yes guided will let you make partitions / , /home/ usr all you want
[03:20] <ksweeley> Can anyone help, when I ran the install script, I got an error 2 with the X-Fi beta drivers?
[03:21] <getoo> zelrikriando: i used zinc for a while , same with zinc
[03:21] <DJ_Cranky> JackWon1 what can i do for you
[03:21] <blizzardman1219[> mdh76: how does one create it?
[03:21] <deuryte> mdh76: c  ya
[03:21] <puff> Jack_Sparrow: Ah, okay, because when I selected "guided", it didn't put up a partitioning interface.
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> puff do manual
[03:21] <mdh76> blizzardman1219[, just copy the sample one there, or make your own using a text editor
[03:21] <zelrikriando> getoo, cant you use xchat?
[03:22] <getoo> zelrikriando: is xchat doing chatrooms in yahoo ?
[03:22] <DJ_Cranky> puff Jack_Sparrow just a suggestion, if using live CD i prefer to use gparted before i launch installer
[03:22] <getoo> I'm using ERC Version 5.2 with GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2008-05-03.
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> DJ_Cranky same difference, gparted is run as part of manual partiutioning during the install
[03:23] <mdh76> blizzardman1219[, I made my own with "vi /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf"
[03:23] <Athenon> what does the "install inside windows" installation do exactly?
[03:24] <puff> DJ_Cranky: Any advice on partitioning?  Mainly I want to have different hardware partitions for the install vs. the user data.
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Athenon read the faq on wubi... not my choice of installation options
[03:24] <getoo> i used linux for like 10 years , i do not know how to use vi ;-) i use emacs
[03:24] <getoo> heh
[03:24] <puff> DJ_Cranky: To make it easier to reinstall without having to shuffle user data around.
[03:24] <zelrikriando> getoo, I dont know....google is there for that...
[03:24] <getoo> true zelrikriando , thanx
[03:24] <mdh76> Athenon, it makes a ext2 fs on a file stored on an existing NTFS partition, then sets up a boot entry into ntldr that'll start grub and load linux using that loopback filesystem thing
[03:24] <JackWon1> hi anyone willing to guide me i'm newbie for Linux - Ubuntu!
[03:24] <puff> getoo: But of course, "vi vi vi" == "666", QED vi is obviously The Editor Of The Beast.
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> puff you want /  "root"  /home   swap ... and a spare data
[03:24] <DJ_Cranky> puff well, i would make an extended partition for the ext3 and swap together, and maybe make a big NTFS or FAT32 and mount it as /home
[03:25] <Athenon> mdh76: hmm, doesn't sound like TOO bad of a deal...why don't people like it?
 no problem
[03:25] <Stephenishere> dj_cranky, just curious did you get my /msg?
[03:25] <mdh76> Athenon, it unfortunately didn't do what I hoped... let me run linux inside windows ;)  So I ended up uninstalling that one and doing a proper install
[03:25] <getoo> "vi vi vi " = " veni vidi vici" @ puff
[03:25] <getoo> not for me tho
[03:25] <puff> DJ_Cranky: Hm?
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> DJ_Cranky ntfs or fat32 as /home ?   What about permissions?
[03:25] <Stephenishere> i came , i saw, i conquered?
[03:25] <blizzardman1219[> mdh76: it says i don't have permission to save the file
[03:25] <mdh76> Athenon, its a heck of a lot slower than a raw filesystem, and you still need to reboot into it to use it
 what u need?
[03:25] <getoo> Stephenishere: yes
[03:26] <mdh76> blizzardman1219[, oh, yeah, you need to be root to do it.  sudo vi /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[03:26] <hojpoj> Hello
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> DJ_Cranky If you are running that now, I want to see your fdsik -l and fstab
[03:26] <Athenon> mdh76: yeah.  but if you mess up, you can just delete the ext2 fs file and all is bueno, right?
[03:26] <JackWon1> hi lnar
[03:26] <Stephenishere> getoo: can you see my private msgs?
[03:26] <hojpoj> I'm having a hard time getting bootlogd working as it should.
[03:26] <JackWon1> could i chati with you directly?
[03:26] <getoo> Stephenishere: let me check it
 how u doin, what are u tryin to do with ubuntu
[03:26] <illriginal> anyone know twonkyvision or mediatomb? Which is better?
[03:26] <mdh76> Athenon, sure.  (well.. use the uninstall option in the control panel, don't just delete random files)
[03:27] <JackWon1> as a newbie do you have guidelines?
[03:27] <DJ_Cranky> Jack_Sparrow not on this current machine, and the /home can be ext3 as well, its just i also dual boot with windows, so its good to be able to share data
[03:27] <hojpoj> bootlogd is not showing me all the boot info
[03:27] <JackWon1> where should i start?
[03:27] <puff> Jack_Sparrow: That's the basic idea... On another box, I have /usr under a separate partition, I'm not sure why I did that at the time... maybe that's where a lot of not-/home user data is kept.
[03:27] <JackWon1> i would like to learn the command of terminal
[03:27] <tang> hello
[03:27] <hojpoj> %B Hello?
[03:27] <Athenon> mdh76: nod.  so stupid question...last time ubuntu messed up on me, it hung in the middle of a java installation and i was forced to reboot with the hard drive still working and it messed the whole hard drive up...with a wubi installation, would it be the same way?
[03:27] <JackWon1> i don't understand what is tar...rpm... apt-cache...
[03:27] <DJ_Cranky> Jack_Sparrow then i have my windows user profile stored on that same drive, so all the data is os independent and shared
[03:27] <JackWon1> how do i use in in Ubuntu?
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> DJ_Cranky ext3 for home is fine.. but ntfs or fat32...  never seen anyone set up a system with that.. ever.
[03:28] <puff> What's the word on newer file system types?  E.g. journaling, etc?
 well...i would search in google for some guides about linux itself, then a guide in ubuntu
[03:28] <Athenon> Jack_Sparrow: tar is an archive file, like zip......rpm is a redhat package, and apt-cache....im not 100% sure.
[03:28] <DJ_Cranky> Jack_Sparrow hmm.. maybe i am using xfs? it is something that windows can read as well, i know that
[03:28] <hojpoj> Does anyone here have any knowledge of BOOTLOGD?????
[03:28] <puff> In the recent drive failure problem, I ran across mention of journaling file systems not needing to fsck.
[03:28] <mdh76> Athenon, hrm sounds like pebcak... I'm sure you'll run into similar problems no matter how you install :O
[03:28] <Athenon> JackWon1*...sorry
[03:28] <JackWon1> i have installed Ubuntu 3 days ago
[03:28] <iissmart> Anyone know how to check your mail upon ssh'ing into an 8.04 server?
[03:28] <puff> hojpoj: Not I.
[03:28] <hojpoj> k
[03:28] <Templarian> whats a good DNS program for resetting my dns thing for dyndns.com
[03:29] <JackWon1> basiclly i can understand
[03:29] <Templarian> perferably has a gui
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> DJ_Cranky I have no problem with the shared data being fat32, but ntfs is fine as well...  for accdessing from the windows side an ext3     I use ext2fs
[03:29] <puff> iissmart: sudo aptitude install mutt<enter>  mutt<enter>
[03:29] <DJ_Cranky> Templarian a lot of routers can do it, if yours does i would reccommend that
[03:29] <JackWon1> after which step should i go?
 search in ubuntu forums
[03:29] <blizzardman1219[> mdh76: what do i do once i do sudo vi /etc/wpa_supplicant.inf? it just opens up a blank windo
[03:29] <Athenon> mdh76: hrm.  thats discouraging.  too bad java couldnt have just worked....java gave me mountains of trouble...although most everything else worked fine -_-
[03:29] <puff> Templarian: What cranky siad.
[03:29] <Templarian> DJ_Cranky: didn't even think of that and yes it does
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm | tang
[03:30] <puff> Athenon: I've never had a problem getting java to work, though I've never really used it for applets.
[03:30] <mdh76> Athenon, its a little easier now that openjdk is free and in the install.. just apt-get install it :)
[03:30] <iissmart> puff, no I mean like an automatic mail check, like I think if you have the Desktop version installed and you ssh into it, it says "No mail" or "New mail for <username>" right under the MOTD
[03:30] <JackWon1> okie
[03:30] <iissmart> it doesn't do this in my fresh installation of 8.04 server
[03:30] <puff> iissmart: ah... there used to be an old program, "from", that would do that.
[03:30] <smallfoot-> ubuntu needs to focus more on porno, thats where the market share is
[03:30] <DJ_Cranky> Templarian glad i could hellp
[03:30] <Athenon> mdh76: erm yeah, thats what i did...but it didnt work right...i forgot what was wrong exactly, but something wasnt right
[03:30]  * mdh76 was growing tired of using make-jpkg to roll his own j2sdk debs
[03:30] <Y> lol smalloot-
 http://start.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[03:30] <JackWon1> what is main function of Bind DNS?
[03:30] <smallfoot-> Y everyone loves porno
[03:31] <DJ_Cranky> Jack_Sparrow i dont think ext2fs can write to ext3, can it?
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> smallfoot- Please stop
[03:31] <JackWon1> Thank you Inar!
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> DJ_Cranky yes
[03:31] <smallfoot-> Jack_Sparrow, we need security from spyware that you get from porno sites, and we need smooth high quality multi media playback
[03:31] <Templarian> puff: whats the host name and do i check the wild card box
[03:31] <DJ_Cranky> Jack_Sparrow i will look at it again then,
[03:31] <puff> Jack_Sparrow: Bind is the oldest and probably most popular DNS server program.
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot | smallfoot-
 no problem man
[03:31] <puff> Jack_Sparrow: WHoops, that was for JackWon1
[03:31] <Athenon> mdh76: i think i was trying to get a newer version of the sdk or somesuch and it errored in the middle...or...AHH YES I REMEMEBER...it was the firefox plugin...java itself was working ok, but not inside firefox...and yeah, i messed up a hard drive trying to fix it -_-
[03:31] <Templarian> puff: nvm
[03:32] <hojpoj> Is there an advanced Ubuntu forum or IRC channel?
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> puff np
[03:32] <Y> smallfoot-: This is a support chat. If you wish to speak off-topic please go to a more appropriate chat.
[03:32] <mdh76> blizzardman1219[, you hit 'i' to go into insert mode, write in the config stuff or copy & paste it in, hit <esc> then :wq to save and quit vi
[03:32] <JackWon1> what different between DEBAIN...UBUNTU...RED HAT?
[03:32] <iissmart> puff, if I try running 'from' it says "can't read /var/mail/<user>", and the man page says its for listing who's SENT mail, not received
[03:32] <hojpoj> DEBIAN and UBUNTU = No difference
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> JackWon1 /join #ubuntu-offtopic for discussions
[03:32] <dug_> Athenon: yeah there's a sun-java6-plugin package if you don't have it installed already
[03:32] <Y> JackWon1: Have you tried google?
[03:32] <puff> iissmart: It lists who sent the mail that yo u've received.
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> hojpoj Yes there is a difference
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !debian
[03:33] <hojpoj> Red Hat - Primarily different installation program.  Uses RPM instead of the much more superior Aptitude
[03:33] <Athenon> dug_: I did that, but java stuff still wouldnt work in firefox
[03:33] <Y> JackWon1: Always remember - GOOGLE! (Ignorance's only natural predator!)
[03:33] <puff> iissmart: Back in the day, mail was saved in spool files under /var/mail, these days it depends on how your mail server is set up.
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> hojpoj Please feel free to join him in ot to discuss the differences
[03:33] <hojpoj> ubottu - Most 8.04 Ubuntu packages will work on Debian Etch
[03:33] <mdh76> Athenon, there's not 64-bit java plugin afaik... otherwise it simply works out of the box on 32-bit systems...
[03:34] <Y> puff: Back in the day mail was delievered in big blue or red bags. =D
[03:34] <Athenon> mdh76: i think it did, but when i upgraded it, it quit working or somesuch
[03:34] <hojpoj> Ubuntu 8.04 and Debian 4.0r3 Etch are exactly the same
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> hojpoj Please feel free to join him in ot to discuss the differences
[03:34] <Rorgo> what possessed the ubuntu people to think releasing a beta firefox browser as the default for 8.04 would be a good idea
[03:34] <Flannel> hojpoj: Please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[03:34] <puff> Templarian: Host name is whatever you set it to.  IT's the name that your linux box uses to describe itself.  It is often set to be the same as a domain name associated with the box.
[03:34] <Athenon> mdh76: i just know it was a big mess and i tried everything i could think of to fix it and it all failed -_-
[03:34] <hojpoj> What an idiotic channel.
 linux is linux, all names like ubuntu, debian, red hat, gentoo, they are distributions, basically they are the same with different ways of doing the same thing on the same system, different ways of installing software packages etc
[03:34] <Flannel> Rorgo: it wont be beta much longer
[03:34] <dug_> iissmart: i'm assuming you already tried running "mail" to check your mail
[03:35] <iissmart> dug_, yes, but I would like it to be an automatic check upon ssh'ing in. And this would be for multiple users, not just me
[03:35] <puff> dug_: he wants a quick summary of his inbox when he logs in.
[03:35] <DJ_Cranky> hojpoj please be polite
[03:35] <iissmart> I thought it came by default, but evidently not on server installations. Maybe on desktop installations though?
 and some of them are free, and use free software only and some others dont
[03:36] <mdh76> Athenon, if you upgrade using ubuntu packages you should be fine.  if you try to install from tarballs off java.sun.com you'll likely run into trouble
[03:36] <JackWon1> Thank you Inar
[03:36] <JackWon1> i had tried to google it
[03:36] <Tech-Mike> sup peeps...got a question about network devices/adapters....does ubuntu only handle one network device at a time? when i connect w/ usb wireless (wlan0) my lan (eth0) isnt connected... and vice versa
[03:36] <Athenon> mdh76: nope, it was synaptic packages...in fact i was in the middle of installing one and the whole computer hung and never released...i had to reboot and messed up the hard drive in so doing -_-
[03:36] <JackWon1> just confirm the answer again at here
[03:36] <mdh76> Athenon, I remember a while back they only released tarballs compiled against mis-named redhat packages, so java was broken on all distributions that mattered (debian)
[03:37] <DJ_Cranky> Tech-Mike usually, i believe there are ways to use both
[03:37] <puff> Athenon: When did you try this, btw?  Java on debian and ubuntu got a lot better within the last year or so.
[03:37] <mdh76> Athenon, oooh nasty
 any distro u like and fits ur wills is the one for u, so choose and install any but ull see that they are all like
[03:37] <[Al3xand3r]> Hello.
[03:37] <Tech-Mike> Dj_Cranky   how might i go about doin that
[03:37] <Athenon> puff: probably....6 months ago or so...i was using like 7.04 or 7.10, not sure which
[03:37] <DJ_Cranky> DJ_Cranky if you take both connections out of roaming mode you can config them both for operations
[03:37] <puff> Athenon: That is, ubuntu/debian support for installing java got a lot better, because Sun fixed their licensing to make it more free software compatible.
[03:37] <DJ_Cranky> Tech-Mike  if you take both connections out of roaming mode you can config them both for operations
[03:38] <DJ_Cranky> Tech-Mike you do this in network manager
[03:38] <Flannel> JackWon1: Please take further discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[03:38] <mdh76> lim mdh76 > pi is approaching 0
[03:38] <puff> Athenon: Also make sure you selected the sun java package for installing, due to the afore-mentioned history, there are different packages and I wouldn't assume you'd get the right hting by just doing "sudo aptitude install java"
[03:38] <mdh76> its lunch o'clock, there's nobody in the office and I have a fridge full of beer
[03:39] <[Al3xand3r]> Says I can't private message due to spammers so what the topic says doesn't work for me.... can I just ask my question here?
[03:39] <Tech-Mike> ill give it a shot thx Dj_Cranky
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> mdh76 great... but also offtopic
[03:39] <Athenon> puff: nope, i tried sun AND i tried the others...nothing worked
 ur lucky
[03:39] <DJ_Cranky> Tech-Mike no problem, have fun!
[03:39] <Flannel> [Al3xand3r]: yep
[03:39] <[Al3xand3r]> Okay thanks.
[03:39] <bpat1434> is FF3.0rc1 out yet?
[03:39] <Templaria1> puff: i have svn and everything configured would i use http://url/var/svn/repos/
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !ff3rc
[03:40] <[Al3xand3r]> I just used to Wubi to install ubuntu for the first time... All went well at first.
[03:40] <Tech-Mike> Dj_Cranky  im tryn...im tryn to use linux more and more, i tri-boot with ubuntu, xp pro sp2, and vista
[03:40] <hiptobecubic> how can one execute a command on all the files in a directory tree if it doesn't have a recursive option?
[03:40] <puff> Athenon: Odd.
[03:40] <[Al3xand3r]> Then it gave me a pop up saying I can enable non-free driver software for better performance. I accept, it downloads ATI drivers, installs them, and after reboot and load all I get is blank screen :(
[03:40] <hiptobecubic> can't you use find | exec somehow?
[03:40] <jrib> hiptobecubic: find and the -exec switch
[03:40] <[Al3xand3r]> Black screen even.
[03:40] <puff> Templaria1: Idaknow, I always use the command line stuff.  Did you check the red-bean book?
[03:41] <hiptobecubic> jrib, yeah i read the man page but i'm having syntax issues
[03:41] <Athenon> puff: my thoughts exactly.
[03:41] <DJ_Cranky> Tech-Mike don't be afraid..linux doesnt bite, it just growls...Loudly..
[03:41] <jrib> hiptobecubic: did you see the EXAMPLES section of the man page?
[03:41] <Y> Is IceWeasel still in use?
[03:41] <Tech-Mike> lol...i havnt given up yet - been usin ubuntu for about a year now
[03:41] <Templaria1> puff: well even with the command line what url would one use?
[03:41] <DJ_Cranky> [Al3xand3r] have you tried booting into recovery mode?
[03:41] <hiptobecubic> jrib, is it 'man -exec' ?
[03:41] <[Al3xand3r]> Nope. have no clue bout linux =)
[03:41] <puff> Athenon: Could it have been that you had some other conflciting packages installed?
[03:42] <jrib> hiptobecubic: no, in 'man find'
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> DJ_Cranky I didnt think wubi could do that
[03:42] <Athenon> puff: i doubt it, but it's not impossible
[03:42] <hiptobecubic> jrib, i'll look again. thanks
[03:42] <trentster> Hey all, I just wanted to ask some advice about the openssl vulnerability: If I generated all keys to use passwords, does this mean we are safe from a brute force attack against vulnerable keys if they use passwords? secondly if those encrypted streams are recorded, can the contents be decrypted regardless of weather we use passwords with our keys?
[03:42] <[Al3xand3r]> Just came to ask best course of action... and if I could find working ati drivers and if others have same issue...
[03:42] <puff> Templaria1: Where?
[03:42] <DJ_Cranky> [Al3xand3r] okey, well when you boot up, choose ubuntu, then there will be a thing that says press esc to enter the menu, press esc, choose recovery and hit enter
[03:42] <jrib> hiptobecubic: in the man page hit:  /EXAMPLES<enter>
[03:42] <yell0w> has anyone worked out how to use ndiswrapper on hardy for a bcm4318 ?
[03:42] <jrib> hiptobecubic: then 'n' a couple of times
[03:42] <Templaria1> puff: on my server the repository is in /var/svn/repos
[03:42] <puff> Athenon: That'd be my first suspect.
[03:42] <blizzardman1219[> ok so i got the file wpa_supplicant.conf configured correctly so i decided to do the command "sudo wpa_supplicant -iwlan1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w" but then it says "Line 1: invalid configuration line 'i'."
[03:42] <DJ_Cranky> Jack_Sparrow yeah, wubi actually just mounts a virtual disk and then boots GRUB, pretty cool idea..
[03:43] <[Al3xand3r]> I saw the option just didn't use it yet DJ_Cranky. recovery is like windows safe mode?
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> DJ_Cranky You have never used wubi have you?
[03:43] <Templaria1> puff: so what would be the url or should i put it somewhere else?
[03:43] <puff> Athenon: I'm a java programmer, I've never had problems with running java from tar balls, but the package stuff has always been a hash.
[03:43] <Athenon> puff: i honestly thing the packages were fine...its just that the plugin was disabled in firefox and i couldnt figure out how to enable it
[03:43] <hiptobecubic> jrib, ah there we are. alright thanks. i'll study a bit more
[03:43] <dug_> yell0w: see if these instructions help, although I no longer needed to use ndiswrapper in hardy myself: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[03:43] <mdh76> blizzardman1219[, umm.. get rid of the letter i in there ;)
[03:43] <Athenon> puff: I'm a java programmer too :P
[03:43] <Templaria1> puff: im thinking its probably in the wrong folder or something.
[03:43] <DJ_Cranky> [Al3xand3r] yes, it is similar, it should load without the restricted driver
[03:43] <puff> Templaria1: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/
[03:43] <DJ_Cranky> Jack_Sparrow i am using it right now on my laptop
[03:43] <puff> Athenon: Well, I'm a java programmer and a lonnnnng-time unix user.
[03:43] <[Al3xand3r]> and then what would i do after that :)
[03:44] <mdh76> blizzardman1219[, everyone using vi has done that at some stage, held the insert keybind down too long and got extraneous letters into files :O
[03:44] <[Al3xand3r]> to remove the ati driver and boot normally
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> DJ_Cranky Good luck...  not something I would use
[03:44] <Athenon> puff: ok you got me on the last one :P
[03:44] <DJ_Cranky> [Al3xand3r] you need to disable the driver, i wouldnt know how,, anyone got ideas?
[03:44] <DJ_Cranky> Jack_Sparrow have you ever used it?
[03:44] <puff> Athenon: I've always been the guy in the corner office who actually caught the windows-specific behaviors *before* we tried to deploy new code to the solaris servers - because *I* was developing on unix.
[03:44] <Templaria1> puff: do i actually have to read this I use SVN day an night on a windows machine just not on linux if i knew the url it would be perfect.
[03:44] <mrkeishii> I have a ?
[03:44] <mrkeishii> I have a 64-bit processor
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> DJ_Cranky yep, which is why I was against it being included with ubuntu
[03:45] <[Al3xand3r]> wubi's simple and great, all went well for me DJ_Cranky. problem i encounter is after install with standard ubuntu's functions really.
[03:45] <puff> Templaria1: It's an excellent read, but hang on a sec, I'll try to look up the specific bit of info you need.
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> DJ_Cranky but this is not the place to discuss it
[03:45] <Templaria1> puff:  i may have found it.
[03:45] <mrkeishii> and I am wondering which Ubuntu 8.04 should i download? is it the 32-bit or 64-bit? Which would be better?
[03:45] <puff> Templaria1: If I understand what you're asking, you're looking for the repository argument to use in donig a checkout?
[03:45] <DJ_Cranky> Jack_Sparrow agreed
[03:45] <mdh76> blizzardman1219[, after fixing that file btw I was able to use NetworkManager to setup the wireless, it Just Worked (tm)
[03:45] <Y> mrkeishii: Please do not ask to ask a question. Just ask and we'll do our best. =D
[03:45] <Templaria1> puff: correct
[03:45] <DJ_Cranky> [Al3xand3r] yes, it does what it does for new ubuntu users...
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> mrkeishii We try to suggest that new users run 32 bit
[03:46] <Y> mrkeishii: 32 bit
[03:46] <mrkeishii> I'm not a new user
32 bit
[03:46] <dug_> Templaria1: you might try a graphical svn client, there are many, but I mainly use the svn clients in netbeans or eclipse
[03:46] <mrkeishii> y 32bit?
[03:46] <DJ_Cranky> mrkeishii who said you were?
[03:46] <brappin7> bazhang you around ?
[03:46] <mrkeishii> Y 32-bit and not 64-bit?
[03:46] <Templaria1> dug_: im using tortoise on vista.
[03:47] <[Al3xand3r]> so, how would i disable the ati driver via recovery mode then :)
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> mrkeishii most experienced users would not have asked..  64 works fine for most people
[03:47] <Templaria1> dug_:  or do you mean in linux because im sure i've got it set up right there
[03:47] <chronographer> Hi. I jsut changed from nvidia to ati card, installed new drivers with nvng and I have got metacity running nicely, but compiz makes xorg use heaps of cpu, framerate of around 4 fps when moving windows... any ideas?
[03:47] <DJ_Cranky> [Al3xand3r] well.. hmm.. i forget, recovery mode just boots to terminal right? anyone know?
[03:47] <mrkeishii> basically what is the 64-bit consist?
[03:47] <Y> mrkeishii: What Jack_Sparrow said. If you're asking then you'd probably be more safe with 32 bit.
[03:47] <chronographer> change xorg.conf
[03:47] <ariqs> why do they put an bunch of entirely unrelated shit into one package? all i want is the ltmodem drivers and i have to install all kinds of other restricted drivers?
[03:47] <[Al3xand3r]> no idea DJ_Cranky, like i said haven't used linux ever be4... :>
[03:48] <mrkeishii> whats wrong with the 64-bit?
[03:48] <mrkeishii> I'm using it right now.
[03:48] <Templaria1> svn+ssh://url.com/var/svn/repos
[03:48] <chronographer> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change Driver in device
[03:48] <ariqs> linux devs smoke the crack
[03:48] <DJ_Cranky> chronographer thanks
 there is more soft for 32 than for 64
[03:48] <chronographer> np.
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> chronographer Please suggest to people gksudo gedit and not sudo
[03:48] <chronographer> why?
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo
[03:48] <puff> Templaria1: So you'd use http://myserverdomain.com/var/svn/repos/
[03:48] <Flannel> chronographer: Because it sets up the enviroment more appropriately for gui programs
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> chronographer sodu gui can lead to disaster
[03:49] <[Al3xand3r]> it's command line based in recovery?
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo
[03:49] <chronographer> not necessarily
[03:49] <[Al3xand3r]> i'll have to write down the stuff then..
[03:49] <chronographer> gnome starts without scripts
[03:49] <chronographer> gee i use sudo gedit all the time!
[03:49] <DJ_Cranky> [Al3xand3r] yeah it just load the terminal to begin with, then you can start gui's
[03:49] <Flannel> !worksforme | chronographer
[03:49] <puff> Templaria1: And if you'd checked in your project as, say, calc, you'd check out http://myserverdomain.com/var/svn/repos/calc
[03:49] <imjesus_1> what are widgets and where can i get them
[03:49] <[Al3xand3r]> need to be told exactly what to type then
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> chronographer please read the link for gksudo above.
[03:49] <DJ_Cranky> [Al3xand3r] all you want to do is make sure you don't load the driver
[03:49] <[Al3xand3r]> change what to what etc
[03:49] <chronographer> ok surer.
[03:50] <mrkeishii> So whats wrong with the 64-bit?
[03:50] <chronographer> any advice on ati driver with compiz using all my cpu?
[03:50] <cylux> Hey guys, this is my /etc/fstab http://pastebin.com/f68b1b479, any idea why the filesystm is read-only?
[03:50] <DJ_Cranky> chronographer older card?
[03:50] <mdh76> mrkeishii, if you're using it now like you claim, you should know
[03:50] <blizzardman1219[> mdh76: i took out the "i" so i typed "sudo wpa_supplicant -wlan1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dndiswrapper -w" but then i get the message "wpa_supplicant: invalid option -- l" and then it just gives me a bunch of information about wpa_supplicant
[03:50] <chronographer> radion i think, 256 ram, 3 years old?
[03:50] <cylux> I want to be able to write as well.
[03:50] <imjesus_1> what are widgets and were an i get them
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> mrkeishii How much ram are you running
[03:50] <mrkeishii> I don't see anything wrong with it.
[03:50] <Flannel> cylux: Which filesystem?
[03:51] <mrkeishii> I'm running 2 gigs
[03:51] <cylux> cylux: I'm pretty sure it's nftf
[03:51] <DJ_Cranky> chronographer ok you don't need legacy driver then, hmm.
[03:51] <cylux> ntfs*
[03:51] <chronographer> i am using 'ati' driver now, i had to blacklist fglrx to stpo white screen
[03:51] <[Al3xand3r]> think my card's unsuported, it's a new-ish one but it's AGP (via that rialto chip crap ati's done) and is not even 100% supported in windows, have to keep finding hotfixes to new drivers...
[03:51] <Y> mrkeishii: For starters, there's more software for the 32 bit than the 64 bit. If you like your 64 bit setup then, by all means keep it.
[03:51] <Flannel> cylux: Because you have a "ro" as the first option
[03:51] <cylux> Flannel: It's ntfs, how do I make it so that I can read AND write?
[03:51] <mrkeishii> I have a Intel Core 2 Duo T5500 Processor
[03:51] <chronographer> funny thing is, I checked a live cd of hardy, and everything worked ootb, didn't even need restricted drivers!
[03:51] <Flannel> cylux: which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> mrkeishii Feel free to use whatever you like..  but the general concensus is 32 bit.. you can /join #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss it with other users in there
[03:51] <cylux> Flannel: Hardy Heron
[03:52] <jtaylor13> group:my audio player amarok 1.4 now says error audio xpin or something like that busy.will not work at all anymore.And my new desktop says same thing.any help??
[03:52] <chronographer> I have an eisting hardy install, used to use nvidia, but changed cards
[03:52] <mdh76> blizzardman1219[, I meant from the config file not the command line :O
[03:52] <Flannel> !ntfs | cylux
[03:52] <cylux> Thanks
[03:52] <grezer> Howdy everyone, I Have a quick question for you all, I just got done installing my LAMP server, made sure that the email server was working, I see two Messages in /var/www/mail how do I look at the email to see what they are ??
[03:52] <brappin7> hey guys, while installing atheros wireless drivers, is it possible to install them on, say ath0, rather then eth0 ?
[03:52] <mdh76> blizzardman1219[, if your config file is correct, you won't need to run wpa_supplicant by itself as the network scripts in ubuntu will do it for you
[03:52] <DJ_Cranky> ubottu is one useful dude
[03:52] <blizzardman1219[> mdh76: how do i do that?
[03:53] <xwind> my LTSP client hangs after PXE booting and displaying the Ubuntu 8.04 logo ...
[03:53] <xwind> syslog says " in.tftpd[5666]: tftp: client does not accept options"
[03:53] <cylux> Flannel: That's the page I used, thats where I got the code from in the first place.
[03:53] <Y> DJ_Cranky: I think your name would be DJ_Homicidal if it weren't for him.
[03:53] <DJ_Cranky> Y lol
[03:53] <DJ_Cranky> okey, time for me to jam, later buds
[03:53] <Flannel> !ntfs-3g | cylux
[03:53] <Flannel> cylux: sorry, check that one out
[03:53] <Quickslvr> How can i zip multiple files?
[03:54] <Miroku> doesn't ubuntu use ntfs-3g by default?
[03:54] <cylux> I know..
[03:54] <cylux> I think it does.
[03:54] <Quickslvr> tried a few commands but it only zip the first file
[03:54] <mdh76> blizzardman1219[, make sure /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf is syntactically correct.  mine contains a ctrl_interface and ap_scan lines and two network={...} sections
[03:54] <cylux> Like if I mount the hard-disk manually, everything will work.
[03:54] <Miroku> I'm a newbie to ubuntu tho so i dunno
yes, check if u have it installed though... use synaptic to do so
[03:54] <Miroku> tho i'm not a newbie to linux
[03:54] <michaelbuckbee_> Trying to install 8.04 onto a clean machine, loads the CD and I choose install, but it just goes to a blank screen after specifying the language, no errors or logs as far as I can tell, any suggestions?
[03:54] <mdh76> blizzardman1219[, then use NetworkManager (its in the menu bar by default) to setup your wireless network
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Quickslvr I usually tag them right clichk and create archive
[03:55] <chronographer> last time, anyone experienced ati drivers using too much cpu with config (xorg uses all the cpu)
[03:55] <Quickslvr> Jack_Sparrow: no xwindow. need the command
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> michaelbuckbee_ At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Quickslvr Sorry I dont know the cli command
[03:56] <grezer> michaelbuckbee - I had the same issue ... but then I went and tryied it again and it worked, I found out that I had a external Hard Drive that was causing my issues
[03:56] <michaelbuckbee_> Jack_Sparrow: ok, trying that
[03:57] <MachinShin> hey all, i'm running linuxmint, which is ubuntu-based in vmware.. it thinks there is no dns server(s). it used to work, but no it doesn't. any idea how i can fix it? /me is a linux newb
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> michaelbuckbee_ I am about to call it a night.. hope that helps get you going
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !mint
[03:57] <blizzardman1219[> mdh76: mine has an "i" at the top and then it has a single network-{...} and that's it
[03:58] <MachinShin> !mintsupport
[03:58] <lekremyelsew> how do i change the output resolution or the GDM login?
[03:58] <MachinShin> oh.ok. thanks Jack_Sparrow
[03:58] <Dgro> Hi
[03:58] <lekremyelsew> how do i change the output resolution of the GDM login?
[03:58] <izinucs> MachinisT, this might be a vmware issue.. you might try #vmware.. at least I think that's the channel
[03:58] <michaelbuckbee_> Jack_Sparrow: it might be here in the morning ;) have a good night
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> lekremyelsew vga=791 etc.. you would need to google the different res's
[03:59] <izinucs> MachinisT, also are you running a linuxmint "appliance" in vmware player or did you do a full install in vmware server?
[03:59] <MNeC> hi, can somebody help me with my ubuntu installation?
[03:59] <grezer> Howdy everyone, I Have a quick question for you all, I just got done installing my LAMP server, made sure that the email server was working, I see two Messages in /var/www/mail how do I look at the email to see what they are ??
[04:00] <tang> hello everyone
[04:00] <lekremyelsew> JakeConnor: cuz it thinks that the monitor is bigger than it really is, so i only see part of the login window
[04:00] <tang> I am new here
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !hi | tang
[04:00] <imjesus_1> what are screenlets
[04:00] <tang>  and I have a problem with my ubuntu
[04:00] <hiptobecubic> i'm trying to show all of the *.m3u files in a directory tree how can i do this?
[04:01] <StevenX> Ubuntu says that I am using proprietary nvidia drivers, but some programs say I am not. How do I make ubuntu reload the drivers?
[04:01] <jrib> hiptobecubic: find -name '*.m3u'
[04:01] <hiptobecubic> jrib, thanks again
[04:01] <lekremyelsew> Jack_Sparrow:  cuz it thinks that the monitor is bigger than it really is, so i only see part of the login window
[04:02] <blizzardman1219[> ok, now that mdh76 has left, can someone else help me?
[04:02] <MNeC> i'm trying to install ubuntu 8.04 desktop on my computer but rather tahn go to a gui, it shows a busybox. do any1 know how to get around this?
[04:02] <Y> How do I remove a drive that is mounted on my desktop, but is not plugged in?
[04:02] <tang> I lost one of my two workspaces
[04:02] <izinucs> lekremyelsew, actually it's just the opposite.. it think screen resolution is probably 800x600 or smaller so it displays LARGE on the screen
[04:03] <tang> anybody who can help me ?
[04:03] <Tech-Mike> Dj_Cranky  when i take them out of roaming, set the wireless to my ssid and dhcp and lan to static  ... i think its tryn to use the lan eth0 for internet instead of wlan0
[04:03] <lekremyelsew> izinucs: i dont think so cuz i turned up the screen resolution to bigger than my monitor can handle and the same thing happened
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> lekremyelsew vga=794        will give 1280 x 1024
[04:04] <grezer> are there any email specialists here tonight
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> tang I asked you earlier to not pm people without asking.. thanks
[04:04] <lekremyelsew> Jack_Sparrow: i have 1024 x 768
[04:04] <AutoMatriX> Hi folks, where can I find some 'nice' examples for parsing text-files fromout a bash-script ?
[04:05] <__Psytek__> in the bash channel?
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> lekremyelsew I really need to call it a night...   jrib ....  you are really up late.....  take care, get some rest
[04:05] <Y> What is the unmount command for the terminal?
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !umount
[04:05] <kakoonia> !lzma
[04:05] <kakoonia> !lzma
[04:05] <kakoonia> !lzm2dir
[04:05] <FloodBot1> kakoonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:05] <kakoonia> yeye
[04:06] <AutoMatriX> __Psytek__, just examples, I don't want to bother anybody with 'stupid' questions ;)
[04:06] <michaelbuckbee_> Jack_Sparrow: ok, removed quiet and splash, lots of things identified correctly flashing by, monitor blanked for a second and then got a signal back, but nothing actually displayed on screen. Likely resolution issue? I have a DVI connected 24" LCD, so maybe it's native res is higher than supported?
[04:06] <kakoonia> anyone knows this lzm2dir decompress tool or something?
[04:06] <Tech-Mike> anybody able to help with the question i asked Dj_Cranky ?
[04:06] <tang> Jack ,I am sorry ,I am new here and I am not good at English .I can not express my mind.so
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> michaelbuckbee_ sorry gotta go
[04:06] <Y> How do I remove a device that is busy? I use sudo rm -r disk but it says the directory is busy.
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !find lzm2
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !info lzm2
[04:07] <SeaPhor> michaelbuckbee_, is this a new install?
[04:07] <Nith> Y: figure out what's using it, other than that you can't
[04:07] <Nith> Y: of course restarting forcefully unmounts
[04:07] <michaelbuckbee_> Yes, fresh hard drive, not upgrading
[04:07] <Y> Nith: It's not in the drive. (it's a microsd card)
[04:07] <Y> Nith: So it can't be busy. Or the computer must be locked into thinking it is as it tries to unmount it.
[04:07] <KHAnet> whats the command for a kernel upgrade
[04:08] <SeaPhor> michaelbuckbee_, ok, this is gonna sound weird but,,, do you have speakers, did you hear drums?
[04:08] <Nith> Y: I don't understand, its not in the drive but you're trying to unmount it?
[04:08] <Nith> KHAnet: do-release-upgrade
[04:08] <michaelbuckbee_> SeaPhor: No speakers, but USB headset, I could restart and see if I hear with that
[04:09] <Y> Nith: It is still showing as mount, and I can access it (though it's just blank when I do). This is not much of a concern. However, when I put the drive in it will still show as mounted, but when I pull up the drive it is still blank and reads "busy".
[04:09] <KHAnet> exit
[04:09] <KHAnet> quit
[04:09] <michaelbuckbee_> SeaPhor: restarting
[04:10] <Y> Nith: Is there a "die you m%#@!-f%&*!er command?
[04:10] <SeaPhor> michaelbuckbee_, so, did Jack_Sparrow have you remove quiet and slash from kernel line?
[04:10] <rod0009> anyone able to play lineage 2 in hardy?
[04:10] <Y> rod0009: Use Wine, check the compat list.
[04:10] <blizzardman1219[> how do i edit my wpa_supplicant.conf file?
[04:10] <Y> rod0009: Go to #winehq.
[04:10] <michaelbuckbee_> SeaPhor: yes, I did that and it didn't display any errors, same behavior, everything looks good and then it appears like it might be shifting resolutions and goes black
[04:11] <rod0009> Y: ok i wiil see
[04:11] <Painless> Y: don't mean to but into your convo... but you could try an 'umount -f ...'
[04:11] <Y> Painless: Any advice is welcome. I will try it now.
[04:11] <Y> Painless: unmount command not found.
[04:12] <blizzardman1219[> does anyone know how i can edit my wpa_supplicant.conf file?
[04:12] <Painless> Y: its 'umount'
[04:12] <Painless> not 'unmount'
[04:12] <Y> Painless: My bad.
[04:12] <SeaPhor> michaelbuckbee_, ok, i just came in but picked up on that,,, do the same thing, delete the quiet and splash but this time add     vga=771
[04:12] <fiz> anyone using songbird in hardy?
[04:12] <Buttercup> I'm having a problem recording from the microphone. I open the sound recorder, hit record, say some stuff and play it back, but don't hear anything. I open the volume control, but I only see playback options, not recording options. How do I get it to record?
[04:12] <Painless> Y: lol.. I think 'unmount' would definately make more sense :)
[04:13] <Y> Painless: That did it. Thanks man.
[04:13] <Dgro> Bye
[04:13] <Painless> Y: yw
[04:13] <RoadHazard> Buttercup: do yourself a favor, if youre gonna record, get audacity
[04:13] <michaelbuckbee_> SeaPhor: ok, will try that, also did the reboot and did not hear any drums (but my headset might not be recognized)
[04:13] <Y> Painless: What does umount -f do?
[04:13] <fiz> man i wish google would make the toolbar for ff3
[04:13] <Painless> Y: it's a forced unmount
[04:13] <Nith>   -f     Force unmount (in case of an unreachable NFS system).  (Requires
[04:13] <Nith>               kernel 2.1.116 or later.)
[04:13] <jtaylor13> group:i can not get google earth to work.nor slingmedia in wine.any help?
[04:13] <SeaPhor> michaelbuckbee_, and i need to know how how far along you are
[04:13] <Nith> I've never heard of that one before
[04:13] <Nith> :)
[04:13] <Y> fiz: All Google toolbars are of the devil and will make your bollocks rot off. Remember that.
[04:14] <fiz> why lol
[04:14] <Y> Painless: Thanks again. =) I'll remember that.
[04:14] <Buttercup> RoadHazard: I plan to, but right now I'm just trying to get this to work at all.
[04:14] <Y> fiz: I just hate them. =P
[04:14] <fiz> i have grown quite attached to mine
[04:14] <SeaPhor> michaelbuckbee_, did you get to install or are you still on live cd?
[04:14] <fiz> all my bookmarks are in there and my mail is just right there
[04:14] <MikeCulver> I'm trying to image my current hard drive contents to a file so I can try ubuntu on the whole disk.  How do I do this with the desktop CD?
[04:14] <RoadHazard> its really alot easier
[04:15] <michaelbuckbee_> SeaPhor: I'm booting from CD, get the options, choose "Install", Hit F6, remove quiet and splash and just added vga=771, processing now
[04:16] <fiz> ff3 needs to hurry up though its pretty sexy just hardly any of my set of extentions work yet
[04:16] <tang> I have two workspaces ,but only one is working  .who to make another working
[04:16] <Y> fiz: "Favorites" and "Bookmarks" is there for that in your web browser of choice. Why add another feature to handle this? As for mail - if you're on Ubuntu just use Evolution! =)
[04:16] <michaelbuckbee_> SeaPhor: fwiw it did mention finding my headset in the boot messages
[04:16] <fiz> because i use it wherever i go
[04:16] <gnomefreak> fiz: thats why we package alot of extensions in Hardy
[04:16] <fiz> my bookmarks are there
[04:16] <Painless> fiz: if you like google bookmarks, as I do for the same reason, the 'gmarks' plugin does the same thing and works with f3
[04:17] <SeaPhor> michaelbuckbee_, k, if easier, you can join #SeaPhor, less noise, but up to you
[04:17] <kakoonia> hey, anyone care to help me with how do i unpack a *.lzm archive?
[04:17] <gnomefreak> Painless: its causing problems with bookmarks
[04:17] <RoadHazard> I wanna piece of the guys who did Mono
[04:17] <gnomefreak> Painless: i just saw taht bug yesterday and commented on it but i dont remember bug # atm
[04:18] <RoadHazard> my whole day was a nightmare
[04:18] <RoadHazard> oops, wrong room
[04:18] <bnalohim> do anyone know how to update a bios??
[04:19] <Painless> gnomefreak: might be the one I opened... it's caused by having the CTRL-D integration turned on... if you go into gmarks options and turn off CTRL-D integration, it works
[04:20] <gnomefreak> Painless: ah ok the bug i saw someone commented on it that gmarks was causing issues with thier book marks and i asked if anyone else can confirm that they had it and to see if disabling it helped, also told them to move profile
[04:22] <Painless> gnomefreak: I opened bug #225257 (Russ Nash is me) ... turned out to be gmarks overtaking CTRL-D and the 'add a bookmark' menu option
[04:22] <puzzle> cybybuddy :D
[04:22] <cybybuddy> puzzle =D
[04:22] <gnomefreak> Painless: i think thats it
[04:22] <Painless> gnomefreak: check my post nearer the bottom (the long one by Russ Nash)
[04:22] <gnomefreak> Painless: yeah i did and i commented after it
[04:22] <Chapai> is there a browser in ubuntu that doesnot  crash when using flash. firefox and epiphany has succumbed
[04:23] <Painless> gnomefreak: ah ok :)
[04:23] <gnomefreak> ah you commented after my 2 posts
[04:23] <linuxpenguin207> !games
[04:24] <cybybuddy> hey.. I instaled hardy heron on my lappy and tried to listen a mp3 with totem.. then I downloaded gstreamer plugins and the downloads went ok... but now my song is not playing.. no asks for install codecs... it just cant get more than 0 sec... tried to install banshee.. its the same.. anyone can help me?
[04:24] <bnalohim> I need to install the last EA81510A.86A.0046.P11 bios version for my Intel Desktop Board D815EEA wich is in te version EA81510A.86A.0014.P09 .. has anyone done a BIOS actualization befoer???
[04:24] <ken> !chmod
[04:25] <gnomefreak> Painless: once they answer i can let you know more on the bug but for right now im gonna change status to incomplete since this bug doesnt meet confirmed status yet since the problems may be caused by different things :)
[04:25] <Buttercup>  cybybuddy: restart your computer. It did the same thing to me after I did some updates.
[04:25] <toresn> has anyone in here been successful in installing 'FFES' (The Freehand Formula Entry System)?
[04:25] <JoaoJoao> howdy
[04:26] <Painless> gnomefreak: I agree... this was definately gmarks related.  With the relevant option checked (the install default) it jumps right in front of 'add a bookmark'
[04:26] <linuxpenguin207> whats a good email client that integrates nicely with Gmail?
[04:26] <JoaoJoao> Is there a place where I can download the new flashplugin-nonfree version (10.xxx)?
[04:26] <toresn> linuxpenguin207: mutt?
[04:27] <cybybuddy> Buttercup, hmmm ok.. thanks =D.. didnt want restart my putter because im coping some files in my network...
[04:27] <d`never> bnalohim: see if this helps - http://www.linuxinsight.com/how-to-flash-motherboard-bios-from-linux-no-dos-windows-no-floppy-drive.html
[04:27] <gnomefreak> linuxpenguin207: thunderbird bery easy to set up as it sets servers and stuff for you
[04:28] <cybybuddy> I will restart in 9 minutes.. when the copy will terminate.. hehe.. thanks bro.. Buttercup
[04:28] <Stephenishere> buttercup, can you see my message?
[04:28] <gnomefreak> JoaoJoao: what version of  Ubuntu
[04:28] <JoaoJoao> hardy
[04:28] <Buttercup> Stephenishere: I see that one.
[04:28] <linuxpenguin207> thanks for the advice
[04:29] <gnomefreak> JoaoJoao: they will be working its way into hardy gutsy and others soon as it was just uploaded to intrepid now they can build for other versions of Ubuntu
[04:29] <JoaoJoao> Oh I see
[04:30] <JoaoJoao> It fixes the constant Firefox+Flash crashes , right?
[04:30] <adv> is there a way to zoom interactively to the screen?
[04:30] <gnomefreak> JoaoJoao: sorry if noone has started for other versions i will start them tomorrow and finish them tomorrow i hope
[04:30] <linuxpenguin207> another question: in hard heron how do you set a desktop shortcut to the trash like in windows? i can only find it as an applet in the GNOME panel
[04:32] <gnomefreak> crimsun: you still around? i looking to know if you have started flash 10 for <Intrepid yet and if not would you like some help with it since i can use the work, Im looking to get motu during this devel cycle i hope
[04:32] <croddy> how can i match all file/directory names containing a question mark using 'find'?
[04:33] <croddy> *\?* seems to have the same effect as *
[04:33] <Zaiden> How do I log onto root again?
[04:33] <jrib> !root | Zaiden
[04:33] <linuxpenguin207> isn't the username root and [assword admin?
[04:33] <Agrossman> lol
[04:33] <linuxpenguin207> ahhh stupid typos
[04:33] <Agrossman> root toor
[04:34] <No1CaNTeL> hey guys, can someone tell me how to take this zoom mode off my screen please :D
[04:34] <jrib> croddy: enclose the expression in single quotes
[04:34] <Zaiden> I have to edit a file in the usr folder, and I need root access
[04:34] <bnalohim> Do anyone know.. if I move a Windows installes Hard Disk to other computer.. Will it boot?
[04:34] <Painless> croddy: I think the -wholename parameter will do what you want
[04:35] <croddy> jrib, thanks, that did it
[04:35] <cyris|> I'm getting this error when I attempt to install ebox on 8.04, any ideas ? http://rafb.net/p/1DnRA224.html
[04:35] <d`never> Zaiden: try  gksu gedit /path/to/file
[04:35] <jrib> bnalohim: ask in ##windows, I don't see how this is related to ubuntu
[04:35] <mudd`Hossam> hello how can i get a copy of the main.cf from the postfix deb?
[04:35] <camposneto> alquem aki fala portugues?
[04:35] <bnalohim> it is
[04:35] <jrib> !pt | bnalohim
[04:35] <bnalohim> i need a bios actualisation
[04:35] <jrib> !pt | camposneto
[04:36] <Flannel> camposneto: Do you have a GUI on this box?
[04:36] <linuxpenguin207> !es
[04:36] <jrib> bnalohim: how is this an ubuntu question?
[04:36] <jtaylor13> group:xine error in amarok is what i get.any help?
[04:36] <linuxpenguin207> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[04:36] <camposneto> #ubuntu-pt
[04:36] <jrib> camposneto: /join #ubuntu-pt
[04:36] <SeaPhor> linuxpenguin207, my assword is ilikeniceones
[04:36] <bnalohim> well i have ubuntu and i need to install te last BIOS version
[04:36] <camposneto> \ubuntu-pt
[04:37] <No1CaNTeL> is there a key combo I might use o turn this off?
[04:37] <camposneto> desculpe, mas como entro no ubuntu-pt?
[04:37] <linuxpenguin207> no1cantel: sudo halt
[04:37] <jrib> camposneto: escreve:   /join #ubuntu-pt
[04:37] <d`never> camposneto:  try  /j #ubuntu-pt
[04:37] <Flannel> cyris|: gconftool-2 is available in gconf2.  This version of ebox could be outdated if its looking for gconftool, I don't know.
[04:37] <mudd`Hossam> hello how can i get a copy of the main.cf from the postfix deb?
[04:37] <camposneto> ok, valeu
[04:38] <linuxpenguin207> when is firefox 3 coming out?
[04:38] <s3a_> can i have firefox3beta5 and firefox 2 on the same system at the same time?
[04:39] <cyris|> Flannel, can you recommend anything then? Use an earlier verion of ebox ?
[04:39] <Flannel> cyris|: I have no idea regarding ebox.  You might consult their documentation
[04:39] <linuxpenguin207> s3a_: NO!!!! it will cause problems in firefox 2 i read it in launchpad
[04:39] <cyris|> Flannel, it appears their site is down :/
[04:40] <eross> quick question, when we have folders like  .openarena, .wine, etc..  why the introduction of folders like Public, Pictures, Documents, etc for the user?  Is that to make it more user friendly?  What if I create 10 users on my system, would it create those same folders for all those users or if I wanted them I would need to create them for each user?
[04:40] <s3a> can i have firefox 3 beta 5 and firefox 2 at the same time?
[04:40] <jrib> s3a: firefox 3 and firefox 2 are both in the repositories and yes you can install and use both at the same time
[04:40] <gnomefreak> linuxpenguin207: soon RC1 was relased and RC2 should be in a week or 3 and that will be final
[04:40] <gnomefreak> s3a: yes
[04:41] <absnt> I have a 250gb HD but after installing ubuntu I seem to be missing 50gb
[04:41] <gnomefreak> s3a: you might experiance profile issues if you switch from one to other and back i dont think we looked at it yet i might do that when i get time to play with it
[04:41] <Flannel> eross: When users get created, /etc/skel is copied into their homedir
[04:41] <yell0w> does anyone know how to enabled hardy-proposed ?
[04:42] <gnomefreak> yell0w: yes add it to sources list. give me a sec and ill give you what to add
[04:42] <linuxpenguin207> what is a good dvd-ripping program for ubuntu i am trying to burn a copy of a DVD movie for backup.
[04:42] <Painless> yell0w: you can also do it via the preferences in synaptic
[04:42] <gnomefreak> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse
[04:42] <Flannel> yell0w: deb [your mirror] hardy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse
[04:43] <gnomefreak> yell0w: ^^^ and add the src one as well
[04:43] <yell0w> cool, thanks guys
[04:43] <absnt> I have a 250gb HD but after installing ubuntu I seem to be missing 50gb
[04:43] <yell0w> the .25 kernel is in there right ?
[04:43] <gnomefreak> yell0w: in where?
[04:43] <yell0w> -proposed
[04:43] <yell0w> gnomefreak: hardy-proposed
[04:44] <yell0w> well let me find out
[04:44] <yell0w> :)
[04:44] <gnomefreak> yell0w: for some reason i doubt it since i dont have it on my hardy set up
[04:44] <Flannel> yell0w: It shouldn't be, no.
[04:44] <leftyfb> roughly how far along are the .1 releases released?
[04:44] <bnalohim> sorry for my bad english.. ill try again... I am running ubuntu in a intel desktop board pc.. i need a new version of the BIOS but Intel only offer a .exe update.. do anyone know how  to update the BIOS? do you know if moving a windows hard disk from another PC will work??
[04:44] <leftyfb> as in 8.04.1
[04:45] <Flannel> leftyfb: July 3, and every 6 months or so for LTS
[04:45] <gnomefreak> yell0w: it wont be in hardy for a while if it ever gets in it
[04:45] <leftyfb> Flannel: thanks :)
[04:45] <gnomefreak> yell0w: intrepid is running 24 still as well
[04:45] <leftyfb> there are a few updates slated for 8.04.1 that i'm excited about
[04:45] <yell0w> :(
[04:46] <yell0w> i just check the kernel page, .25-4 is the last stable one
[04:46] <yell0w> oh man
[04:46] <sw54_nxsrv> bnalohim: yes but before doing that, go to System in ControlPanel, open Device Manager and set IDE controller to Standard
[04:46] <Flannel> yell0w: Hardy will always have .24
[04:46] <yell0w> i need that fix for bcm4318
[04:46] <yell0w> :(
[04:46] <gnomefreak> most likely you will never see 25 kernel in Hardy its extreamly unstable to upgrade to new kernel like that and we cant afford hardy to become unstable
[04:46] <mudd`Hossam> hello how can i get a copy of the main.cf from the postfix deb?
[04:47] <yell0w> Flannel: gnomefreak : so i'm stuck till intrepid ?
[04:47] <yell0w> :(
[04:47] <gnomefreak> plus alot of packages to upgrade and you are just adding bugs to a stable release
[04:47] <linuxpenguin207> http://www.googleityoumoron.com
[04:47] <Flannel> yell0w: Or you could compile your own
[04:47] <camposneto> pessola com um problema, os dvds que rodo, seja no kafeine ou toten ou mplayer jtodos estão dando um poiuco jde lag
[04:47] <gnomefreak> yell0w: yes unless you build it yourself but if you never done it i wouldnt start now
[04:47] <Flannel> linuxpenguin207: please dont
[04:47] <yell0w> gnomefreak: no, and i want to
[04:48] <yell0w> don't*
[04:48] <yell0w> ay yay yay
[04:48] <Flannel> mudd`Hossam: I presume this is because you want to revert yours?
[04:48] <mudd`Hossam> Flannel: i believe ive deleted an important line in mine yes
[04:48] <linuxpenguin207> does linux-questions.org have an irc channel?
[04:49] <mudd`Hossam> Flannel: just need the orignial file to see what i might have removed
[04:49] <Flannel> mudd`Hossam: reinstalling the package will work
[04:49] <linuxpenguin207> brb
[04:49] <Flannel> mudd`Hossam: check /usr/share/postfix/
[04:50] <mudd`Hossam> Flannel: ahh thank you
[04:51] <InGunsWeTrus1> I set up a terminal server using x11vnc but I have to run a command to enable it.   I've tried to compile the source for the ltmodem drivers, i've tried to download old packages.  sadfkjsdklfjasdfds
[04:54] <Flannel> !language
[04:55] <ariqs> why i have to download 17 megs of nonsense
[04:55] <ariqs> just to get a driver that won't install
[04:55] <ariqs> what is with this? and people try to say this makes a better desktop. HAHAH
[04:55] <Flannel> ariqs: What were you trying to do?  What does it tell you re: not having stuff?
[04:55] <keithclark> What is the best relational data base out there with a good gui interface for Linux?  I've tried Base and Kexi and find they are way too limited.   So I started fooling around with some other settings and now I can't get it to record again. Does anyone know what settings I have to have in the volume control panel to get it to record?
[04:56] <No1CaNTeL> my primary partition is now f'n up because of your IGNORANCE
[04:56] <Zaiden> Is thee any way to disable pulseaudio and use ESD in place without borking Ubuntu?
[04:56] <Zaiden> there*
[04:56] <linuxpenguin207> ariqs: try linux-drivers.com
[04:56] <Flannel> linuxpenguin207: Please troll elsewhere.
[04:56] <Painless> keithclark: I would recommend checking out postgresql and phppgadmin package
[04:56] <No1CaNTeL> out of respect for this channel I will keep my "language" down, is there an @ here?
[04:57] <linuxpenguin207> or i think its .org, not sure
[04:57] <keithclark> Painless: Yes, I've tried that phpadmin package but it does not do what I want it to do.....and the programming is a nightmare
[04:57] <ariqs> flannel: I'm trying to get the modem drivers so I can actually connect to the internet, which I can't do because ubuntu doesn't come with the necessary drivers to let me do it, and I can't compile those drivers because it doesn't have the dependencies that i can't download because I need the driver to do it
[04:57] <linuxpenguin207> troll?
[04:57] <ariqs> all this nonsense is driving me insane. I've wasted a day on it
[04:57] <Flannel> ariqs: you can apt-get build-deps to grab the stuff it needs to compile
[04:57] <No1CaNTeL> ANY @'S HERE?
[04:57] <mrgksser> Does anyone know what changed in ubuntu 8.04 that changed how wine works with comports?
[04:58] <Flannel> No1CaNTeL: #ubuntu-ops
[04:58] <izinucs> keithclark, you could use mysql or postgres as the backend for OpenOffice Database..
[04:58] <ariqs> flannel: how? I can't get on the net with the machine
[04:58] <ariqs> because I need the driver I don't have to do it
[04:58] <Flannel> ariqs: Grab them with another machine
[04:58] <No1CaNTeL> ty, would you mind doing me afavor and letting me know (from history) who told me to sudo halt my system?? would be appreciated
[04:58] <ariqs> i've been trying to do that
[04:58] <No1CaNTeL> I was on the live cd so I dont have a history
[04:58] <ariqs> and it's failing miserably
[04:58] <ariqs> i can't believe this nonsense
[04:59] <Flannel> No1CaNTeL: take it to #ubuntu-ops
[04:59] <keithclark> izinucs: Yeah, I've been recommended that before, but it is still pretty complicated.  I need something simple but powerful.   I started by trying to dual boot ubuntu with fedora, i messed up and now, i have a messed up grub (how to fix)
[05:00] <izinucs> !grub | dodo
[05:01] <Flannel> ariqs: Which package do you need?
[05:01] <egc> hi, can somebody tell me where nm-applet might keep its configuration files?
[05:02] <keithclark> izinucs: I had hoped that there was something like that in linux.
[05:02] <ariqs> flannel: ltmodem drivers
[05:02] <Flannel> ariqs: Which package is that?
[05:02] <DrBanzai> I need some help getting wireless to work on my Acer 5920 with the Intel 3945 chipset.  Fresh install of Ubuntu Hardy Heron.  No wireless under Networks, no icon in the task bar either.  Any ideas?
[05:02] <fiya_werkin> Keith, Access? I just use virtualbox with a windows session when I need actual MS Office functionality, better than rebooting at least
[05:03] <lanxuan> hello
[05:03] <ariqs> linux-restricted-modules. I've already downloaded it, but the package won't work because of dependencies
[05:03] <corollax> DrBanzai: First thing I'd check is the "Hardware Drivers" section
[05:03] <ariqs> I got the listed dependencies on packages.ubuntu.com and they have other dependencies
[05:03] <keithclark> fiya_werkin: yeah, I thought of that as well but I need to access this on my server via ssh sessions.
[05:03] <DrBanzai> corollax: Nothing listed.
[05:03] <corollax> Dr Banzai: It's under system -> administration -> hardware drivers
[05:03] <ariqs> it's bs
[05:03] <ariqs> every dependency has another dependency and I'm sick o fit
[05:04] <Flannel> ariqs: How did you install Ubuntu?
[05:04] <ariqs> i just want one friggin driver
[05:04] <ariqs> cd
[05:04] <polysilicon> which is the best way to run windows in virtual machine in Ubuntu 8.04 for playing high graphics games?
[05:04] <fiya_werkin> ariqs: have fun compiling and resolving all the dependncies manually then
[05:04] <fiya_werkin> polysilicon, you won't be playing high graphics games in virtual machines
[05:04] <izinucs> polysilicon, if the games require direct x forget it.
[05:04] <polysilicon> izinucs, ohh Quake?
[05:04] <fiya_werkin> polysilicon, opengl stuff works well, like warcraft 3, WoW, some other games do run ok, but its still sketchy
[05:04] <ariqs> fiya_werkin,  even compiling has dependencies I don't have
[05:04] <Flannel> ariqs: That package should be installed by default.  Which CD did you use?
[05:05] <corollax> Dr Banzai: Try typing in "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" on the command line, with an internet connection
[05:05] <ariqs> flannel: pressed cd 8.04 hardy.
[05:05] <fiya_werkin> polysilicon, quake 1?
[05:05] <ariqs> flannel: I don't think it's on the cd. it's not in pool/restricted anyway
[05:05] <egc> linux is a special brew, made for a chosen few
[05:05] <corollax> Dr Banzai: You might get some new package updates that would include information on your wireless chipset. Can't guarantee anything, though.
[05:05] <fiya_werkin> polysilicon, check out wine / wine hq website for some games that work good with that
[05:05] <Flannel> ariqs: There are only a few packages on the CD, because they're all compiled into the casper image.  It'd be the alternate CD, or check the manifest.  Hold on.
[05:06] <keithclark> egc: ahmen, yes it is.
[05:06] <izinucs> polysilicon, there are games out there for linux that are using the older quake engines.. not  sure about the newer stuff..  check out synaptic and search for quake and see what pops up
[05:06] <polysilicon> fiya_werkin, ok, is that the only option? wine..
[05:06] <ariqs> flannel: I'm on dialup. I just can't download a cd image
[05:06] <DrBanzai> corollax: Ok, I'll try it
[05:06] <fiya_werkin> polysilicon, other than native ports of the games you want in linux which most don't have, wine is your best bet
[05:06] <egc> :D
[05:06] <polysilicon> okkk
[05:06] <No1CaNTeL> linuxpenguin207: you really are a funny guy......
[05:06] <Flannel> ariqs: Right.  but they *are* included by default on the Desktop CD
[05:06] <corollax> DRBanzai: Best of luck! If it's a fresh install, there will be a LOT of updates. Fair warning. >,<
[05:06] <keithclark> egc:  my workload on my home network went up 100% since changing over to linux
[05:06] <ariqs> where then? because like I said, it's not in pool/restricted
[05:07] <egc> keithclark: why's that?
[05:07] <Flannel> ariqs: Its included by default in the live image.  The desktop CD has all its packages that it installs compiled in, see here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.manifest
[05:07] <tv7497> Flannel: good morning dir :-)
[05:08] <keithclark> egc: oh man, this doesn't work, this site crashes, this usb device has no drivers....and so on.  Ubuntu also has it's crashes on my laptops.  Overheating is a huge issue.
[05:08] <Flannel> tv7497: Howdy
[05:08] <fiya_werkin> polysilicon, there are some fun games even fps that are made for linux too, check out nexuiz, sauerbraten, bzflag
[05:08] <polysilicon> fiya_werkin, its wine version 1.0!
[05:08] <Speedy> keithclark, really?
[05:08] <Speedy> usb works out of the box
[05:08] <egc> keithclark: oh ;) i took it to be positive at first
[05:08] <fiya_werkin> polysilicon, yes, after many years they released version 1 :)
[05:08] <tv7497> Flannel: Ivor Horton’s Beginning Java 2,JDK 5 Edition
[05:08] <Nostahl> how do i get a pcmcia card working
[05:08] <egc> i actually don't have many problems with it
[05:08] <fiya_werkin> polysilicon, don't let that fool you, wine's been out for quite a while
[05:08] <tv7497> Flannel:  sir is this book good to start with java
[05:09] <Nostahl> !pcmcia
[05:09] <keithclark> speedy: oh yeah.  I spend much more time working on my machines now.  But....I must say, they can all do so much more!
[05:09] <ariqs> there are some modules that look very similar to linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-16-386, but I don't see that exactly
[05:09] <Speedy> tv7497,  if you wanna do java  "big java" by "kay horstman" is a good bet
[05:09] <polysilicon> fiya_werkin, yeah. got that
[05:09] <fiya_werkin> polysilicon, you can do a lot with wine other than games also, for example I use it for running pokestars, and some other windows only software
[05:09] <ariqs> flannel: at any rate, how do I access them then?
[05:09] <xaos1111> !cloning
[05:09] <Flannel> ariqs: No.  Stop looking on the CD itself, you won't find them there.  They are *already* installed, on the live system, and then on the installed system as well.
[05:09] <Serway> Hey guys, is there an ubuntu application that can help me make buisness cards?   But you can verify that restricted modules are installed by: dpkg -l | grep restricted
[05:10] <tv7497> Speedy: thank you sir
[05:10] <oc80z> corollax, utorrent is the best.
[05:10] <Speedy> thats ok
[05:10] <phun_> I like deluge, seems to work just as well as utorrent
[05:10] <Speedy> that book served me well at university
[05:10] <fiya_werkin> corollax, doesn't hurt to try it, utorrent isn't even an install, you can just run it
[05:11] <fiya_werkin> and compare for yourself :)
[05:11] <oc80z> how the heck do i bring /dev/net/tun device up
[05:11] <keithclark> Speedy:  finding a replacement for Quickbooks took awhile.....now a decent database with ease of use is the next challenge.  Hey, nothing in life is free!  You either pay with a chequebook or your own time.
[05:11] <fiya_werkin> Sometimes even with very few seeds utorrent just impresses me
[05:11] <corollax> fiya_werkin: I've already got Wine installed and running brilliantly...
[05:11] <fiya_werkin> It's like they have their own hidden network
[05:11] <corollax> fiya_werkin: Would it be worth doing a speed comparison?
[05:11] <Nostahl> where doi go to see what pcmcia cards i have plugged in
[05:11] <oc80z> how the heck do i bring /dev/net/tun device up
[05:11] <Speedy> keithclark,  i guess that statement is mainly true
[05:12] <fiya_werkin> corollax, never hurts load up the same torrent on both and see what it takes to complete / speesd
[05:12] <izinucs> Nostahl, Places/computer
[05:12] <fiya_werkin> corollax, granted things can change seeds / leechers over time but you can get an idea
[05:12] <fiya_werkin> plus I keep meaning to set up utorrents web interface, havn't messed with it yet tho
[05:12] <Nostahl> izinucs i have it plugged in but its not showing up there
[05:12] <corollax> fiya_werkin: Would this help? http://www.ubuntu1501.com/2007/09/running-utorrent-in-ubuntu.html
[05:12] <Nostahl> the little light isnt lighting up on it eather
[05:13] <keithclark> Speedy: it is absolutely true.  When you buy a standard machine from say HP with windows, you have one throat the strangle when something goes wrong.  With Linux, you have no throats to strangle.  No one single entity is responsible.
[05:13] <izinucs> Nostahl, sorry I dont know much about how to get them to work.. just where you might find  them when mounted.
[05:13] <izinucs> Nostahl, you could try "sudo mount -a"
, THANKS!
[05:14] <fiya_werkin> corollax, thats pretty nifty
[05:14] <keithclark> Speedy: don't get me wrong though.  I love Linux.  The rapid developments are amazing.  Some real fun, and not tied to one coporation.
[05:14] <keithclark> *corporation
[05:14] <izinucs> Serway, it's a good little program.. it'll even "merge" data from a text file or spreadsheet.
[05:14] <Templaria1> right now my dns is pointing to my router when it should be pointing to <IP_ADDRESS> on my local network... how do i fix this?
[05:15] <corollax> fiya_werkin: Would that help you get the web interface running?
[05:15] <fiya_werkin> corollax, oh, no i think thats still beta
[05:15] <fiya_werkin> corollax, i dont think its too hard i just havn't had the time to mess with it :)
, the thing is, i want it to say different things on every card, and it only does one card and multiplies it, do you know how to do this?
[05:15] <Templaria1> puff: you have been right thus far :)
[05:15] <corollax> fiya_werkin: Hee. Understandable. I'll admit, I love to tinker. Actually, I was thinking about switching to Elyssa Mint when it comes out...
[05:16] <Templaria1> puff: do you know why its pointing to my router and not to my server.
[05:16] <ariqs> flannel what does non mean when it lists them?
[05:16] <corollax> fiya_werkin: I've got my /home partitioned already. Do you think it's a good idea to switch?
[05:16] <Flannel> ariqs: non?
[05:16] <izinucs> Serway, sorry no.. never tried that.
[05:16] <Nostahl> i updated ubuntu and now the back/forward buttons do not work on firefox hrmmm
[05:17] <ariqs> dpkg -l | grep restricted shows drivers and then non after them
[05:17] <ariqs> or rather modules
[05:17] <dannyjay> Does anybody know a simple way to view all hardware on Hardy?
[05:17] <Flynsarmy> I did a mysqldump but when i try to open it in gedit it just sits on 100% CPU.
[05:17] <fiya_werkin> corollax, switch ubuntu to mint? thought we were talking about utorrent lol
[05:17] <flotishtu> falak tak chal saath meray. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
[05:17] <izinucs> dannyjay, lshw -v
[05:17] <fiya_werkin> corollax,  personally, i'm addicted to trying new distros, i format all the time :-\
[05:17] <fiya_werkin> so i'm not the best person to ask
[05:18] <polysilicon> fiya_werkin, any racing game comparable with Need For Speed -linux native?
[05:18] <dannyjay> Is there any GUI method
[05:18] <corollax> fiya_werkin: Admittedly, yes. But I got onto tinkering, and well.....
[05:18] <dannyjay> just curious
[05:18] <ariqs> flannel: so say the driver I want is installed. Why won't the ltmodem driver work? what do I have to do?
[05:18] <izinucs> polysilicon, check out whats available at www.getdeb.net
[05:18] <corollax> fiya_werkin: Do you think I'd be able to keep my /home settings with Mint?
[05:18] <polysilicon> ok
[05:18] <nevyn> does anyone know why alsa-firmware isn't packaged in hardy?
[05:19] <fiya_werkin> polysilicon, http://www.racer.nl/ maybe
[05:19] <corollax> nevyn: I think it's because hardy is moving to pulse-audio?
[05:19] <fiya_werkin> polysilicon, not much of a racing fan so not too sure, google might be able to help you with that one
[05:19] <ariqs> flannel: what is this about ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/210652
[05:19] <Flannel> !modem | ariqs
[05:20] <ariqs> flannel: I've already done the nonsense there
[05:20] <ariqs> that's where I identified the modem
[05:20] <ariqs> there is no working modem on my machine as it is
[05:20]  * Templaria1 nvm my little bro fixed it he said something about server and games and fixed forwared 80
[05:21] <Flannel> ariqs: That page says the version of rstricted modules on the CD doesn't include support for it, you need a more updated version.
[05:21] <ariqs> flannel: so we go back to where I was
[05:21] <ariqs> i downloaded the new version
[05:21] <fiya_werkin> polysilicon, http://maniadrive.raydium.org/
[05:21] <ariqs> and the package doesn't install because of dependencies
[05:22] <ariqs> i'm using some sorta debian package manager instead of apt-get because I don't know how to use it for something I downloaded that's on a flash drive. will that effect things?
[05:23] <omar> السلام عليكم
[05:23] <No1CaNTeL> gnomefreak: if ya have a sec, to recover my corrupted install, what would you recommend? repair or reinstall ubuntu??
[05:23] <gnomefreak> reinstall No1CaNTeL
[05:24] <Flannel> ariqs: Actually, checking the dates and versions in that bugreport, means its sort of been on and off for a little while.  You however, should only need like two packages.  the restricted modules, and the corresponding linux-image
[05:24] <ariqs> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-16-386 is the package I got, flannel. i downloaded all those depedencies and it still tells me nonsense about dependencies
[05:25] <dmsuperman> !english | omar
[05:25] <ariqs> I got that
[05:25] <ariqs> URGH
[05:25]  * ariqs cries
[05:25] <Flannel> ariqs: did you install the other one first?
[05:25] <Flannel> that is, the kernel?
[05:25] <kappaccino> this channel never sleeps
[05:25] <ariqs> I don't think it worked. it had dependency issues as well
[05:25] <dmsuperman> kappaccino, it only slows down sometimes
[05:26] <Flannel> ariqs: which depends?
[05:26] <ariqs> I'll go try again
[05:26] <Flynsarmy> Is there a problem with opening huge documents on ubuntu or something? I can't even open a mysqldump without WINEing notepad++
[05:26] <dmsuperman> Flynsarmy, how big is it?
[05:26] <graft> Flynsarmy: what's wrong with emacs or vim?
[05:26] <No1CaNTeL> kk, ty :P now my home is on it's own partition, will the setup know to find it there?
[05:26] <dmsuperman> Flynsarmy, you could always do a head or tail if you only need to read a few lines of it
[05:26] <fiya_werkin> Flynsarmy, how bigs the file?
[05:26] <Flynsarmy> dmsuperman: It's only 1.6MB but i think it's cause it has really long lines
[05:26] <No1CaNTeL> sorry, I am learning as I go
[05:26] <masterloki> I have a
[05:27] <masterloki> a question for anyone
[05:27] <graft> Flynsarmy: that's a joke, man.. i can open 100+M files in vim with no trouble
[05:27] <dmsuperman> No1CaNTeL, you can specify that you want that mounted as /home in the installer process, just make sure you choose manual
[05:27] <dmsuperman> !ask | masterloki
[05:27] <phobiac> I've been having an issue with installing grub. I have 8.04 installed properly, but grub messed up and now I'm unsure of what to do. I have no /grub under /boot in the partition, so I'm assuming I need to use grub-install?
[05:27] <Flynsarmy> graft: I could probably open it with VIM but i prefer a GUI program. None of them seem to be albe to handle it though and i'm not sure why
[05:27] <graft> Flynsarmy: because GUI programs suck? use the appropriate tools for your job
[05:28] <kappaccino> masterloki: no, but I like my pancakes fluffy
[05:28] <Flannel> ariqs: All of the other depends are satisfied by versions you already have.  You just need the linux-image-[version]-generic and linux-restricted-modules-[version]-generic (or something similar to that)
[05:28] <izinucs> Flynsarmy, you could try nano..
[05:28] <masterloki> can I add a a drive to my fdisk file or will it f--k it up
[05:28] <graft> Flynsarmy: but if you want, try kate
[05:28] <dmsuperman> Flynsarmy, it depends on how the program opens it. I think notepad++ only loads so much of the file into memory, depending on where you're at
[05:28] <masterloki> hahha
[05:28] <dmsuperman> izinucs, nano wouldn't do it
[05:28] <No1CaNTeL> will do, and sorry I have one last q :P I have 8.04 installed now, I did the upgrade from 7.10 from the updates in ubuntu. is there a way to reload that install instead of using my disc so I dont have to upgrade again?
[05:28] <dmsuperman> izinucs, nano tries to open the whole thing at once
[05:28] <Flannel> Flynsarmy: Try less.  You need something that doesn't open the entire file, but only whatever you're working on at the time.
[05:28] <graft> less is not an editor
[05:29] <ariqs> flannel: it tells me the package is either corrupt or I can't open it, for linux-image
[05:29] <fiya_werkin> graft, gui's dont suck as much as generalizations
[05:29] <Flannel> graft: Did he need an editor?
[05:29] <Flynsarmy> Flannel: Shouldn't nano be able to handle it? 1.6MB isn't that large
[05:29] <Flynsarmy> Flannel: Gedit sorry
[05:29] <dmsuperman> Flannel, he didn't actually say
[05:29] <Flannel> Flynsarmy: the problem is its all one line, isn't it?
[05:29] <Flynsarmy> Flannel: Not all of it. but there are a few really long lines, yes
[05:29] <dmsuperman> Flynsarmy, 1.6m is hard to open when it's got to get the whole thing and put it into a big text box
[05:29] <graft> Flannel: true he didn't say, though he implied it by suggesting notepad++
[05:30] <graft> 1.6m is not hard to deal with
[05:30] <Flannel> Flynsarmy: Those long lines are the problem.  Because some programs try and buffer them entirely.
[05:30] <Speedy> gedit with wrapline enabled
[05:30] <Speedy> job done
[05:30] <graft> gedit or kate should do it fine
[05:30] <Flynsarmy> I was looking for a GUI that could handle it. I've never used kate before, i'll try that
[05:30] <Flannel> Speedy: Its not the displaying of the line, its the contents in memory.
[05:30] <ariqs> thankyou flannel, if this works I really appreciate it ;P
[05:30] <graft> kate is perfect for code monkeys
[05:30] <dmsuperman> Flynsarmy, kate is pretty good
[05:30] <ariqs> I'm getting the linux-image again
[05:30] <fiya_werkin> Flynsarmy, might try gedit or geany first if you don't want to install the dependencies that come with kate (since its a kde app)
[05:30] <fiya_werkin> for gtk i like geany
[05:31] <fiya_werkin> but yeah code wise kate is nice
[05:31] <dmsuperman> eclipse ftw
[05:31]  * dmsuperman ducks
[05:31] <Speedy> yeah i like eclipse
[05:31] <Speedy> its almost as professional as netbeans too
[05:32] <fiya_werkin> yeah but it can be overkill if your just doing small editing
[05:32] <dmsuperman> i hate it on windows though, the buggiest crap i've ever used
[05:32] <dmsuperman> but in linux it's so amazing
[05:32] <fiya_werkin> so far I like netbeans over eclipse
[05:32] <Speedy> its buggy on linux too
[05:32] <Speedy> in places
[05:32] <Speedy> netbeans if far more professional
[05:32] <graft> eclipse for looking at mysql dumps?
[05:32] <dmsuperman> fiya_werkin, I built this machine to game originally, so resource usage isn't much of a problem for me :D
[05:32] <fiya_werkin> graft, i think the convo got hijacked into general code editing
[05:33] <graft> oh ah
[05:33] <dmsuperman> Speedy, I haven't ever run into bugs in linux. In windows, it would erase the second half of all the liens in the editor like 5 times a day, so I would have to close without save and restart since the last savepoint
[05:33] <fiya_werkin> dmsuperman, yeah, some people are just picky about having extra libs around
[05:33] <fiya_werkin> dmsuperman, my rigs a gaming machine too :)
[05:33] <No1CaNTeL> dmsuperman: I'm not sure if you saw my last q :( it's the last q! I promise!!
[05:33] <dmsuperman> fiya_werkin, I was actually debating selling my second gig of memory until I started doing more virtual machine work
[05:33] <graft> a gaming machine running linux?
[05:33]  * fiya_werkin nods
[05:33] <graft> we're going dangerously offtopic here...
[05:33] <Speedy> dmsuperman, i've only had issues with the php plugin really
[05:33] <Speedy> so maybe i'm being too harsh
[05:34] <fiya_werkin> dmsuperman, yeah, i had a spare 2 gigs lying around that I never RMA'd until i started playing with virtualbox as well, it runs pretty good on ubuntu but the extra ram helps
[05:34] <graft> are there good games in ubuntu? like, not idle-time games, but FPSs and such
[05:34] <dmsuperman> No1CaNTeL, There's really not too much you can do
[05:34] <fiya_werkin> graft, nexuiz / bzflag / armagetron advanced / sauerbraten
[05:34] <dmsuperman> graft, we aren't talking about gaming, just the fact that our rigs were built to game so when we do things like run linux then there is nothing to worry about as far as resource usage
[05:35]  * No1CaNTeL wants to kick linuxpenguin in the butt for telling an uber to sudo halt his system!!
[05:35] <graft> fiya_werkin: anything that has a storyline?
[05:35] <No1CaNTeL> lesson learned :P
[05:35] <dmsuperman> I could have swore there was a quake game in linux
[05:35] <fiya_werkin> graft, whats a storyline :)
[05:35] <graft> dmsuperman: yeah, quake
[05:35] <dmsuperman> Speedy, I primarily do PHP
[05:35] <phobiac> Have you guys tried urban terror?
[05:35] <Jesus_Quintana> when running 'hostname --fqdn' i get a message 'hostname: Unknown host'
[05:35] <fiya_werkin> when i want story, I play muds
[05:35] <phobiac> It's like counter strike mixed with quake, not bad really.
[05:35] <dmsuperman> when I want a story, I read a book...but that's just me
[05:36] <dmsuperman> but I'm off to bed
[05:36] <graft> that's what i like best about games
[05:36] <dmsuperman> actually probably to read one of those ancient things...books
[05:36] <graft> i want high-quality, polished, free-software games with great storylines
[05:37] <swiftkick> hello
[05:37] <Speedy> graft,  you wont find many of them yet
[05:37] <Speedy> or any for that matter
[05:37] <graft> this will have to change
[05:37] <Speedy> good games are usually made for money
[05:37] <graft> so what? operating systems are usually made for money
[05:38] <No1CaNTeL> kk, gonna try to reboot a couple more times, maybe I had a bad load. if not, then it will be a long night :P thanks again for the help guys :D
[05:38] <Speedy> graft,  not true
[05:38] <Speedy> games are though
[05:38] <phobiac> Most free software games I can think of are played by the people who make them, so the quality of the game reflects how much time they want to invest in it.
[05:39] <amenado> Jesus_Quintana-> can you paste your /etc/hosts file?
[05:39]  * No1CaNTeL cringes to think that all of this started because some cute brunette got him addicted to Guitar Hero 3 and needed a full windows install....
[05:39] <fiya_werkin> this is why i like muds, its a combination of books, choose your own adventurers, and just fun
[05:40] <phobiac> Okay this is annoying. I have no idea how to reinstall grub without reinstalling linux.
[05:40] <graft> No1CaNTeL: just get a wii man
[05:40] <fiya_werkin> !grub
[05:40] <No1CaNTeL> lol
[05:40] <Joe_CoT> is there a way to list all the possible "displays"? I can't get programs to open in display 0.0
[05:40] <phixxor> hey guys, my computer is using the wrong /boot/grub/menu.lst how can I make it use the correct one?
[05:40] <graft> phixxor: how do you have more than one?
[05:40] <amenado> phixxor-> how do you know it is using the wrong one?
[05:40] <No1CaNTeL> meh, I'll stick with my XBMC Xbox, that sys is not for the lazy gamer ;)
[05:40] <phobiac> Thank you, that should help.
[05:41] <fiya_werkin> mostly I just play TF2 anymore
[05:41] <fiya_werkin> but it doens't run well enough in linux yet so thats why i dual
[05:41] <graft> there are rumors valve is porting source to linux
[05:41] <fiya_werkin> graft, heard that
[05:41] <phixxor> graft, amenado, I have more than one because I have more than one linux installs on this computer, and I know I'm using the wrong one because both are different, and the one it's using is the one on the other partition that I don't want it to use
[05:41] <theFATMAN> need help with unrar
[05:42] <graft> phixxor: well, tell it the correct partition to use
[05:42] <phixxor> how?
[05:42] <puff> I'm installing 8.0.4.  I'm using manual partitioning.  In the "new partition" dialog I enter partition size 10000, and then back at the main partition dialog, it says 10001.  I enter 14000, main dialog says 13999.  Wtf?
[05:42] <amenado> phixxor-> well then use the correct menu.lst corresponding to the one you are booting to
[05:42] <graft> phixxor: first of all, run grub-install from the correct linux install
[05:42] <theFATMAN> phixxor: u talkin to me?
[05:42] <phobiac> Those guides are old, I've tried the gui method on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto and it doesn't work anymore. The installer installs over the old system and reeks havoc. The commandline version it gives won't work either, I don't have a stage1 file.
[05:42] <phixxor> theFATMAN, naw, i'm talking to the other guys
[05:42] <theFATMAN> phixxor: oh, lol
[05:42] <graft> phixxor: second of all, make sure that it has its partitions straight when it boots
[05:42] <amenado> !who | phixxor
[05:43] <theFATMAN> phixxor, damn i got happy
[05:43] <DrBanzai> Okay, I got my wireless to show up under networks, on my Acer 5920 with the Intel 3945 chipset, under Ubuntu Hardy Heron, but now when I do an ifdown, and then an ifup on wlan0 I get the following: http://pastebin.com/m1226b14d
[05:43] <graft> phixxor: did you do the first part correctly?
[05:43] <graft> theFATMAN: what's your problem?
[05:43] <phixxor> graft, amenado, yeah, I was looking into that, but I don't know what to put after "sudo grub-install <something>"
[05:43] <graft> DrBanzai: why ifup/down, and not network manager?
[05:43] <graft> phixxor: put the device of the drive you want it to boot from
[05:43] <phobiac> phixxor: My problem too.
[05:43] <theFATMAN> graft, i have unrar installed, but when i go to extract it gives me a device error message now, was not so earlier
[05:43] <amenado> DrBanzai-> do a   lshw -C network to confirm your wireless card and driver it uses
[05:44] <graft> phixxor: like /dev/hda if that's what it boots from
[05:44] <puff> graft: Btw, one gotcha to be aware of is that ifup/ifdown use a different set of lock files than iwconfig eth1 up and iwconfig eth1 down.
[05:44] <graft> theFATMAN: can you pastebin the output?
[05:44] <phobiac> graft: I have linux installed on /dev/sda3, so I would run "sudo grub-install /dev/sda3"?
[05:44] <theFATMAN> graft, just a sec
[05:44] <phixxor> graft: ok, so if the /boot I want it to use is /dev/sda6, I do sudo grub-install /dev/sda6
[05:44] <puff> graft:  It's no big deal, but just remember that if you bring the interface down with iwconfig, then ifup will tell you it's already up.
[05:44] <graft> phobiac: no. do you understand what an MBR is?
[05:44] <graft> phobiac: err sorry, that was for phixxor
[05:45] <graft> phobiac: no wait, now i'm all confused
[05:45] <phixxor> graft, I've heard of the MBR but I don't know what/where it is
[05:45] <graft> oh i see, you both have the same issue
[05:45] <phobiac> graft: I've got the same problem basically, I'll just sit quiet and listen.
[05:45] <amenado> phixxor-> you can  do  grub-install --root-directory=/boot  /dev/sda6   assuming your /boot is in /dev/sda6
[05:45] <corollax> fiya_werkin: Umm...I'm trying out utorrent, but I'm experiencing an interesting error.
[05:45] <graft> phixxor: okay, one of your drives probably has a boot flag, which you can find out with gparted
[05:45] <theFATMAN> graft, inappropriate ioctl for device
[05:45] <phixxor> graft, I'm pretty sure it's my windows partition, /dev/sda1
[05:46] <fiya_werkin> phixxor, are all the partitions on one drive
[05:46] <graft> phixxor: well, check to make sure
[05:46] <puff> Is there any way to edit a partition size once I've created it in the partitioning dialog?
[05:46] <phixxor> fiya_werkin, yes
[05:46] <graft> phixxor: that's the drive you want to install grub to
[05:46] <graft> phixxor: ah, so you only have one physical hard drive?
[05:46] <theFATMAN>  graft, inappropriate ioctl for device
[05:46] <graft> phixxor: in that case you only have one boot sector, so grub-install /dev/sda should work
[05:46] <fiya_werkin> corollax, what error?
[05:46] <phixxor> graft, amenado, yes /dev/sda1 has the boot flag
[05:46] <graft> theFATMAN: that sounds like a bad disk error, nothing to do with unrar
[05:47] <blackluster> join please
[05:47] <corollax> fiya_werkin: No terminal output...
[05:47] <theFATMAN> graft, checkdisc gives me the ok
[05:47] <amenado> phixxor-> it is not essential to have grub installed in the mbr, it can be installed on the partition where the linux is installed
[05:47] <corollax> fiya_werkin: but after about 15 seconds, it says "error: Access denied" under the status bar
[05:47] <theFATMAN> graft, on vista(which sucks) it works fine(winrar)
[05:48] <corollax> fiya_werkin: I'm thinking that it might be a permissions issue.
[05:48] <phixxor> amenado, I have the /boot I want to use on it's own partition, which is /dev/sda7. How do I tell the computer to boot with that GRUB?
[05:48] <theFATMAN> graft, brb
[05:48] <phobiac> graft: I've got one hard drive, linux on partition /dev/sda3 and windows on /dev/sda1. I ran sudo grub-install /dev/sda and it gives me an error: Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[05:48] <fiya_werkin> corollax, access denied? like the tracker status?
[05:48] <corollax> fiya_werkin: Precisely.
[05:48] <corollax> fiya_werkin: I've tried it with three torrents now. (an open office installer for windows is my current test subject)
[05:48] <amenado> phixxor-> you can  do  grub-install --root-directory=/boot  /dev/sda7   assuming your /boot is in /dev/sda7
[05:49] <graft> phobiac: is /boot a separate partition?
[05:49] <puff> Is journaling enabled by default on an ext3 partition created at installation?
[05:49] <absnt> I have a 250gb HD but after installing ubuntu I seem to be missing 50gb
[05:49] <fiya_werkin> corollax, where's the link for the one your trying with now
[05:49] <Templaria1> puff, you there?
[05:49] <phobiac> graft: No, linux is all in one partition.
[05:49] <fiya_werkin> puff, afaik yes
[05:49] <graft> phobiac: can you pastebin your menu.lst?
[05:49] <phobiac> graft: But I'm pretty sure windows is where the mbr is, I had windows on here first.
[05:50] <catunda> hi, i've trying to set iptables masquerade between tun0 -> eth0. All the packets sent correctly to target but don't throught the tun0. Does anyone have any tips?
[05:50] <amenado> phixxor-> wait a minute, you have a second linux?  if you do, you can have your 1st booting linux to have its menu.lst to point to the second install of linux
[05:50] <phobiac> graft: I have no menu.lst
[05:50] <fiya_werkin> !mbr
[05:50] <graft> phobiac: the mbr is just a sector of the disk
[05:50] <phixxor> amenado, graft, so "grub-install --root-directory=/boot  /dev/sda7" because /boot is in /dev/sda7 ? (Just doublechecking with both of you)
[05:50] <graft> phobiac: no menu.lst would be a big problem for grub, eh
[05:50] <phobiac> graft: Oh okay. And yeah, that's why I need to reinstall it from scratch.
[05:50] <phixxor> amenado, I've manually edited my menu.lst to point to the second linux and windows -- I can show you if you want
[05:50] <fiya_werkin> basically, the mbr is what gets booted off of, grub installs directions there saying 'boot off of my menu.lst file somewhere', and then that menu file tells the system how to boot the different os's
[05:50] <phobiac> graft: I'd rather reinstall grub and not linux though.
[05:51] <amenado> phixxor-> that will be much better, paste in pastebin your menu.lst for the 1st linux that is booting okay
[05:51] <fiya_werkin> phobiac - im not sure, but maybe a sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub ?
[05:51] <phixxor> amenado, ok
[05:51] <graft> phobiac: no, you just need to run update-grub
[05:51] <Templaria1> we'll say i have my folders for SVN and local host like so: /home/templarian/www and /home/templarian/repos , why in the world won't svn connect to the bloody project in /home/templarian/repos/trunk
[05:51] <DrBanzai> amenado: Ok, looks like it's using the right driver...
[05:51] <fiya_werkin> i think there is a grubconfig app also that might do it, again not positive tho
[05:52] <phobiac> graft: I have no grub at all though, just the /boot directory with no /grub. Update grub will work?
[05:52] <phixxor> is something wrong with the pastebin?
[05:52] <graft> phobiac: err... is grub installed?
[05:52] <amenado> DrBanzai-> please paste the result of  lshw -C network for us to confirm