[15:28] <komin> hi
[19:40] <Flightwatch> Hi
[20:08] <jailbreak> what's the name of the screenshot app that's used in Lubuntu (LXQt) and it's command to run if you're not LXQt?
[20:13] <krytarik> !info screengrab
[20:13] <krytarik> jailbreak: Yeah, looks like it's this.
[20:14] <jailbreak> that's not it.
[20:14] <krytarik> https://git.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/lubuntu/tree/desktop - I'm looking at the current seed here.. otherwise you need to be a bit more specific as to what version you are using.
[20:15] <jailbreak> found it: file:///usr/share/applications/lximage-qt-screenshot.desktop
[20:16] <krytarik> https://git.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/lubuntu/commit/desktop?id=f27faf6a97f1cb66e8e4f9bd6e4abf07a932d6c8
[20:21] <jailbreak> hmm that was a while ago
[20:22] <jailbreak> 2019-08-10 23:09:23 -0500
[21:57] <crashed_fox> hello, I've been experience tab crashes and sometimes full browser crashes with Firefox on Lubuntu 21.10. Firefox is the apt version 97.0+build2-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>.   I was wondering if this is common behaviour and if anyone has possible solutions? Majority of google results are for resolving snap issues, not apt
[22:03] <tomreyn> you'll be using the snap version
[22:03] <tomreyn> unless you installed the firefox deb from a different release?
 Not until 22.04.
[22:04] <tomreyn> oh ok
 21.10 is still a deb for the flavors
[22:04] <tomreyn> sorry, wasn't aware, kc2bez
 No worries
[22:05] <jailbreak> why are you moving towards a firefox snap? people HATE snap
 It wasn't up to the Lubuntu team.
[22:05] <tomreyn> crashed_fox: it might help to submit a crash + bug report
[22:06] <crashed_fox> okay - I have been through firefox's crash pop-up
[22:06] <jailbreak> crashed_fox: I have Firefox-ESR and Firefox working on an i5-6500T, no crashes here
[22:06] <tomreyn> crashed_fox: you could also check your logs and see what happens there, or run firefox froma terminal and see the output when it craches
[22:06] <crashed_fox> thank you tomreyn I will try through terminal
[22:06] <crashed_fox> @jail
[22:07] <tomreyn> you mean firefox' own crash popup, where it asks for your email address?
[22:07] <jailbreak> crashed_fox: you can also start firefox in safe mode to make sure it's not an addon or setting messing up
[22:07] <crashed_fox> jailbreak what is firefox-esr?
[22:07] <jailbreak> crashed_fox: LTS firefox :-)
[22:07] <crashed_fox> oh okay thank you
[22:08] <crashed_fox> I wasn't required to give an email, but maybe I just skipped that box - it was the firefox crash popup yes
[22:08] <jailbreak> try FF safe mode
[22:08] <tomreyn> somehow i thought firefox' own crash reporter was disabled in *ubuntuland
[22:09] <jailbreak> nope
[22:11] <crashed_fox> should safe-mode help reduce crashes or just debug the cause of the crash better?
[22:11] <jailbreak> debug
[22:14] <tomreyn> about:crashes and about:crashcontent would possibly provide more info.
[22:14] <crashed_fox> alright - I got it crashing is safe-mode, just individual tabs and not the whole browser at the moment though
[22:14] <jailbreak> crashed_fox: what system you using?
[22:14] <crashed_fox> I have a warning in terminal when I started firefox - Gtk-WARNING **: 16:08:46.953: Locale not supported by C library.
[22:14] <crashed_fox>         Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[22:15] <jailbreak> that *shouldn't* make it crash
[22:18] <crashed_fox> Lubuntu 21.10 - my machine is about a 5yr old laptop, used to have an HDD dualboot 20.04 & Win10 but that was dying so I upgraded to SSD with 21.10
[22:19] <crashed_fox> would other system info be more helpful?
 I suggest filing a bug on launchpad to get some more eyes on it. ubuntu-bug firefox should get you there.
[22:25] <crashed_fox> firefox's launchpad.net page?
 It should be a launchpad.net bug filed against Firefox. It should collect all of the necessary logs automatically.
[22:28] <crashed_fox> okay great - thank you for the help
 Sure thing
[22:59] <bruh> jrg
[22:59] <bruh> hi
[23:01] <bruh> hi
[23:06] <HenryCharlesAdol> Tis I, Henry Charles Adolphus Tom.


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[21:16] <xnox> wgrant: thanks =)
[21:20] <wgrant> xnox: :)
[21:20] <wgrant> xnox: You caught me just before I flew out.
[21:22] <xnox> wgrant: muahaha, i'll break everything in the mean time ;-)
[21:23] <wgrant> Please don't.
[21:23] <wgrant> Enoug hstuff broke last week!


[10:53] <ricotz> hello :), is it possible to remove any sign of libreoffice - 1:7.2.0~rc1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>~lo* at https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-prereleases/+packages?field.name_filter=libreoffice&field.status_filter=&field.series_filter=impish
[10:53] <ricotz> so it is possible to upload different tarballs with the same name
[12:09] <cjwatson> ricotz: No, sorry
[12:09] <cjwatson> (Or rather, not without especially fiddly SQL surgery which is almost certainly time better spent just bumping the version)
[13:41] <ricotz> cjwatson, hi, thanks, maybe it will be possible in the future :)


[21:43] <zykotick9> motst_: no - i was just going to suggest using 32bit if you had less then 4GB RAM.  Good luck.  Did you even mention what the issue is?
[21:43] <MonkeyDust> gaby  #ubuntu+1
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> ericus: if you look in ~/.config/autostart    you will probably find files to make thins autorun there
[21:44] <Somelauw> You probably got tired of people joining this channel and bashing on unity.
[21:44] <ericus> This is for my ultrabook ActionParsnip. The less daemons and services in the background, the better battery life
[21:44] <P1rate> Webchat sucks~
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> Somelauw: bashing on anything is fairly pointless
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> ericus: Lubuntu will make it last even longer, it is a lot lighter than Gnome and even XFCE
[21:45] <mengu> ActionParsnip: any ideas?
[21:45] <dlentz> mengu, i would try playing with model= keywords in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[21:45] <MonkeyDust> Somelauw  please type /j #insultubuntu
[21:45] <Somelauw> MonkeyDust: Thanks
[21:45] <ericus> ActionParsnip: might be true, but it's a zenbook and I need a specific kernel
[21:45] <Somelauw> MonkeyDust: It is empty
[21:45] <dlentz> model=acer-aspire-7730g might be the closest, but idk
[21:46] <azriel> ok ok ok, ok? ok
[21:46] <stephanb> ericus: if its in ubuntu, it is in lubuntu too
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> mengu: try:  options snd-hda-intel model=laptop   in alsa-base.conf
[21:46] <Lars_G> stephanb: Nope, same screen saying hdd will be checked. nothing else
[21:46] <Kouen> hello
[21:46] <azriel> I need a program like fakewebcam, a way to take whats on my desktop (xubuntu 11.10) and use it as a webcam
[21:46] <phpn00b> hello
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> ericus: lubuntu just uses a different DE, its the same OS underneath
[21:47] <Somelauw> Why not #insultunity?
[21:47] <mengu> ActionParsnip: and then restart pulseaudio?
[21:47] <ericus> stephanb or ActionParsnip; can I compile a 3.x-kernel and use it in 11.04?
[21:47] <stephanb> ericus: sure, why not
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> mengu: you'll need to unload then reload the module
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> ericus: you could but you won't be supported here
[21:47] <Lars_G> ActionParsnip: What's the wm/de on lubuntu?
[21:48] <guntbert> !kernel | ericus
[21:48] <ericus> another thing I dont like about 11.10 is the new system settings
[21:48] <stephanb> Lars_G: lxde
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> Lars_G: openbox/LXDE
[21:48] <dlentz> mengu, use sudo alsa force-reload
[21:48] <ericus> getting more and more like windows control panel
[21:48] <Lars_G> thanks
[21:48] <StevenCodes221> anyways to get local users on an ssh
[21:48] <Lars_G> stephanb: wanna see what I have?
[21:48] <azriel> I need a program like fakewebcam, a way to take whats on my desktop (xubuntu 11.10) and use it as a webcam
[21:48] <Trevor69420> ActionParsnip, is there a way to tell if java installed correctly?
[21:48] <azriel> yes by using it
[21:48] <ericus> java.com
[21:49] <thibault> #polyglot
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> Trevor69420: java -version    will tell you what java is doing the work
[21:49] <stephanb> Lars_G: what do you mean?
[21:49] <Trevor69420> thanks azriel didnt think of that
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> Trevor69420: java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml   will test it i your browser
[21:49]  * Trevor69420 smacks azriel with a wet fish
[21:49] <Trevor69420> it's a server distro
[21:49] <Kouen> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/`lsb_release -cs`.list –output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list; sudo apt-get -q update; sudo apt-get –yes -q –allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring; sudo apt-get -q update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update
[21:49] <Kouen> what does it do this command????
[21:49] <Kouen>
[21:49] <FloodBot1> Kouen: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:50] <Trevor69420> no gui to play with lol
[21:50]  * azriel derps hard
[21:50]  * azriel derps hard
[21:50] <azriel> I need a program like fakewebcam, a way to take whats on my desktop (xubuntu 11.10) and use it as a webcam
[21:50] <Lars_G> stephanb: http://imgur.com/5JjqI
[21:50] <Kouen> sorry
[21:50] <Trevor69420> i'm helping yugandhar with openfire and just getting a dependency issue with java
[21:50] <azriel> I need a program like fakewebcam, a way to take whats on my desktop (xubuntu 11.10) and use it as a webcam
[21:50] <mengu> ActionParsnip: dlentz: changing model to laptop didn't work. it was audio.
[21:50] <azriel> herp :3
[21:51] <stephanb> Lars_G: sorry, no idea how to resolve this
[21:51] <P1rate> !patience
[21:51] <azriel> deeerp
[21:51] <Lars_G> stephanb: thanks
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> mengu: ok then change the line again, there are lots of examples online
[21:51] <Lars_G> Anybody else? how can I check disk is actually being checked there and not just stuck? please
[21:52] <guntbert> azriel: don't be annoying please
[21:52] <Somelauw> azriel: Using google I found http://sourceforge.net/projects/webcamstudio/
[21:52] <dlentz> mengu, you mean model=audio ?
[21:52] <azriel> i need to get the gstreamer0.10 plugins ugly multiverse
[21:52] <Somelauw> Hope that helps
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> Lars_G: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[21:52] <azriel> found that an hour ago i was hoping for an alternative
[21:53] <Lars_G> ActionParsnip: How can I run it? I have no getty up yet, this is part of init, probably before the root rotation from ramdisk
[21:53] <delinquentme> I'm looking for a *functional* tutorial on shell scripts ... basically I need a REALLY simple operation ( appending to the classpath var ) and I'd like to learn how to do it really quickly :D
[21:53] <stephanb> delinquentme: you dont even need a shellscript for that
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> Lars_G: ok, what is the icon in the top left?
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> Kouen: adds the medibuntu ppa and imports its key
[21:54] <delinquentme> stephanb, your name is really hard to select in this chat room .. anyways I need to do it there because this is on a deploy
[21:54] <Lars_G> ActionParsnip: Excuse me? in my capture?
[21:54] <delinquentme> IE theres a shell script which is being run on deploy to heroku so I need to modify that to include the classpaths
[21:54] <_Marcus> Hello
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> Lars_G: yes, the green blob..
[21:54] <Lars_G> ActionParsnip: This is a system running on XenServer, the icon is part of my workstation, I'm connected to that system via vnc
[21:54] <Kouen> there is no suspicious code on the sentence??? i found it on a blog and to avoid damages i didnt run
[21:54] <azriel> sooo
[21:54] <azriel> yeah
[21:55] <azriel> I need a program like fakewebcam, a way to take whats on my desktop (xubuntu 11.10) and use it as a webcam
[21:55] <stephanb> Kouen: you should be able to run this safely
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> Kouen: no, and its the same as the medibuntu repo how to
[21:55] <Kouen> thanks stephanb
[21:55] <stephanb> azriel:  please dont spam
[21:55] <danileigh79> !patience | azriel
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> Lars_G: what do you do on the remote system?
[21:55] <azriel> i am not spamming
[21:56] <azriel> who are you ppl that i should care what you think?
[21:56] <Kouen> another question..... i am having troubles with myphpadmin
[21:56] <Kouen> it notice me that failed control user
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> azriel: we care you are not following the guidelines
[21:56] <Lars_G> ActionParsnip: Boot it
[21:56] <stephanb> azriel: thank god there is a feature on irc which is called "ignore"
[21:56] <Kouen> or something like that
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> Lars_G: surebut when you are on the system, what do you do?
[21:56] <azriel> you pl are stupid and useless
[21:56] <Lars_G> ActionParsnip: Says disk needs to be checked during boot, I have no way of checking it's actually do.
[21:56] <azriel> *ppl
[21:56] <danileigh79> !off-topic | azriel
[21:56] <Lars_G> ActionParsnip: It's a server, several services on it.
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> !fsck | Lars_G
[21:57] <rasusto> someone sounds mad
[21:57] <Pici> danileigh79: Thats not helpful.
[21:57] <azriel> get fucked
[21:57] <Pici> azriel: Those are the rules of this channel, if you can't follow them, then you'd probably be better off finding support elsewhere.
[21:57] <Trevor69420> ActionParsnip, yugandhar is getting "java version "1.7.0_03"
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> gone, thankfully
[21:57] <Trevor69420> as the output
[21:57] <Lars_G> ActionParsnip: I would preffer to have the fsck run, and I can't do it during normal operation since it's the root
[21:57] <Trevor69420> it should be Java 6
[21:57] <stephanb> Pici: i think with this attitude he wont get it anywhere else either
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> Trevor69420: cool, then its in
[21:57] <Trevor69420> at least as far as I know
[21:57] <Lars_G> ActionParsnip: I can set fastboot, it's a nice idea, thanks, but, I'd love to have it run and be able to check it IS running
[21:58] <delinquentme> How do I append in a shell script? anyone know?
[21:58] <danileigh79> Pici: Not to be rude, but my period is easier to deal with than him
[21:58] <Pici> danileigh79: >>
[21:58] <_Marcus> azriel: You aren't being very nice. You should think about your attitude, and how it will affect people's idea of you.
[21:58] <Pici> danileigh79: There are better ways of dealing with problem users than giving them worthless links.
[21:58] <Pici> _Marcus: they're gone.
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> Lars_G: then you willneed to physically attend the server to boot livecd and fsck in livecd
[21:58] <_Marcus> Oh.
[21:58] <Pici> Anyway, back to support.
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> Trevor69420: is 1.7 not going to work?
[21:59] <Lars_G> ActionParsnip: It's hard to phisically attend a virtualized server. thanks anyhow.
[21:59] <stephanb> delinquentme: something like $VARIABLE = $VARIABLE + "foobar" of course this is pseudocode but it should workl
[21:59] <Lars_G> I'll use fastboot for now
[21:59] <Trevor69420> ActionParsnip, no the package specifically requires 6
[21:59] <danileigh79> Pici: I didn't give any worthless links... I merely activated ubottu when he wouldn't stop asking the same question over and over 15 seconds apart... I wasn't the only person to hit him with the patience bot
[21:59] <delinquentme> stephanb, i think I've found something
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> Trevor69420: I'd try it with 1.7. If not you can always pull down 1.6 and install in the same manner
[22:00] <Trevor69420> ActionParsnip, tried it wouldnt work it wont even install
[22:00] <Kouen> La conection for controluser, as defined in config failed., thats the message of phpmyadmin
[22:01] <delinquentme> stephanb, do you know what the " relative " path selector looks like   ?   is it "./some_file_in_same_directory"
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> Trevor69420: then reverse the install and you can grab 1.6, its the same method
[22:01] <stephanb> delinquentme: yeah, it is "." and ".."
[22:02] <Trevor69420> so to uninstall run that script again?
[22:02] <Trevor69420> or is there an uninstall argument i should be using
[22:03] <Trevor69420> and also where do I pull the java 1.6 from
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Trevor69420: no the script installs the java
[22:03] <libryder> E: Couldn't find package sun-java-jdk
[22:03] <Trevor69420> ok... so to uninstall it then?
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Trevor69420: read the script and reverse the changes from bottom to top....
[22:03] <libryder> i added archive.canonical to my sources list and still can't find the sun package
[22:04] <Trevor69420> grrr... remember this is yuganhar we;re talking about haha
[22:04] <Trevor69420> hold on i'm gonna nned to work on this later
[22:04] <libryder> oops, the error is E: Package sun-java6-jdk has no installation candidate
[22:04] <xangua> libryder: sun/oracle java is no longer on ubuntu repository
[22:05] <silidan> hi, what programs are available to find out which ip adress spams me with a constant data flow in ubuntu?
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> libryder: its not packaged anymore
[22:06] <StevenCodes221> Oh ok What if I have an rsa key how would i use that ?
[22:07] <velko> StevenCodes221, what are you trying to do?
[22:07] <StevenCodes221> velko ssh to my server
[22:09] <velko> StevenCodes221, you have to copy the content of the file ssh-rsa.pub into the file .ssh/authorized_keys on the server
[22:10] <StevenCodes221> velko:  I got the authorized key from the server
[22:11] <velko> StevenCodes221, i'm not sure i understand what you have done. the server needs to know that your client station (the one for which you have generated the rsa key) is allowed to connect. for this reason you have to copy your public key to the server
[22:12] <StevenCodes221> velko where would I find it ?
[22:13] <velko> StevenCodes221, you just told us that you have an rsa key. i presumed that you generated this key on the computer from which you are trying to connect to the server. right?
[22:13] <StevenCodes221> velko mmhmm
[22:14] <Trevor69420> i wonder if there's an opensource alternative to citrix
[22:14] <Trevor69420> something under the GNU would be nice too
[22:18] <THXel> hey people i have a problem with edubuntu
[22:19] <velko> StevenCodes221, sorry i'm experiencing networking issues. i don't know if you have talked to me in the meanwhile
[22:19] <drounse> how do i make minecraft.jar executable?
[22:19] <nibbier> drounse, just run java with it?
[22:20] <drounse> nibbier it says it is not marked as executable
[22:20] <sun_devil> I do a ps to see my processes running, but does anyone know how to write this to a file ?
[22:20] <Trevor69420> drounse chmod + x <filename> perhaps?
[22:20] <StevenCodes221> velko mind a PM ?
[22:20] <nibbier> drounse, java -jar mineraft.jar ?
[22:20] <nibbier> sun_devil, ps > /path/to/file
[22:21] <SockPants> hi
[22:21] <SockPants> i'm in gnome classic
[22:21] <SockPants> and i'm trying to install a theme
[22:21] <SockPants> but there is nowhere to do this
[22:21] <velko> StevenCodes221, generally not. but others won't be able to benefit from this knowledge or not be able to help also if i get stuck
[22:21] <SockPants> in the appearance window there is only a drop-down box for existing themes
[22:21] <SockPants> where do I put the theme?
[22:21] <GASSYPOOTS> this is the lagest irc channel
[22:21] <drounse> Trevor69420 thank you that worked
[22:22] <virgilio> ?
[22:22] <macmartine> I'm trying to remove a user, but when I try to, it says the suer is logged in. But they aren't listed when I try to view who is lgged in with 'users'. Any ideas?
[22:22] <Trevor69420> np drounse
[22:22] <GASSYPOOTS> suer?
[22:22] <macmartine> *user
[22:22] <StevenCodes221> velko then uhh well what do i do after I have the rsa key ?
[22:22] <_Marcus> GASSYPOOTS: He meant user.
[22:22] <Trevor69420> macmartine, try the command "finger"
[22:22] <GASSYPOOTS> command prompt i guess
[22:22] <gu3_> sun_devil you can rs aux|vim
[22:23] <Trevor69420> do u see the user listed there with a TTY?
[22:23] <macmartine> Trevor69420: tjhey aren't listed there either
[22:23] <Trevor69420> stramge
[22:23] <Trevor69420> reboot ;-)
[22:23] <RedWar> HI guys. What is the channel for Ubuntu-Studio?
[22:23] <Trevor69420> jk
[22:23] <_Marcus> !terminal > GASSYPOOTS
[22:23] <velko> StevenCodes221, let's do it step by step. first i assume there is somewhere a configured and running ssh server to which you want to connect. right?
[22:24] <sun_devil> in (1) command?  write processes of current user to a file?
[22:24] <StevenCodes221> velko yup
[22:24] <GASSYPOOTS> realy a bot
[22:25] <GASSYPOOTS> well you can
[22:25] <velko> StevenCodes221, then you generated an rsa key on your client machine - the machine from which you are trying to access the server
[22:25] <sun_devil> I do a ps to see the current processes just can
[22:25] <StevenCodes221> velko nope got it from the server
[22:26] <sun_devil> I do a ps to see the current processes and just want to write to file
[22:26] <velko> StevenCodes221, ok so go ahead an generate a key on your client machine
[22:26] <StevenCodes221> kk
[22:26] <StevenCodes221> done
[22:26] <nibbier> sun_devil, i dont understand you. you can generally redirect console output to a file by using > or to a command by using | or attach to a file by using >> just craft the command as you wish and redirect to a file of your liking
[22:26] <SockPants> Where can I install themes in Gnome Classic? It isn't in the appearance menu.
[22:26] <StevenCodes221> kk velco
[22:27] <velko> StevenCodes221, this creates two files: id_rsa and id_rsa.pub. the first is your private key and the second is the public key
[22:27] <StevenCodes221> alright
[22:27] <trism> SockPants: in oneiric, extract them to the ~/.themes directory (which you may need to create first), then select the theme in gnome-tweak-tool
[22:27] <velko> StevenCodes221, in order for the server to allow you to connect it have to know about your public key
[22:27] <StevenCodes221> k
[22:28] <velko> StevenCodes221, you do this by copying the content of the public key into the file .ssh/authorized_keys on the server
[22:28] <trism> SockPants: or icon themes into ~/.icons/
[22:28] <StevenCodes221> gotcha velco Do i have to change it any ?
[22:28] <SockPants> trism: i just realized i might have gnome 3 installed thinking it was gnome 2
[22:28] <SockPants> trism: how do i make sure?
[22:28] <macmartine> Trevor69420: I rebooted, and same thing. Still says user is logged in. And they aren't listed in 'finger'
[22:28] <velko> StevenCodes221, i don't understand your question
[22:29] <trism> SockPants: apt-cache policy gnome-panel;
[22:29] <StevenCodes221> velko one tutorial i read said you had to change the ket around before itll work
[22:29] <__machine> on a fresh install of 10.04 lts, i installed mysql-server ... but mysql isnt running and in /etc/init there is mysql.conf.disabled ... why is it disabled by default?
[22:29] <Trevor69420> may i ask what user this is?
[22:29] <Trevor69420> are you sure it's not youir current user lol
[22:29] <macmartine> yep
[22:29] <StevenCodes221>  ahh i see
[22:30] <velko> StevenCodes221, you have to "cat id_rsa.pub >> .ssh/authorized_keys" in order to append it's content to the end of the file
[22:30] <Trevor69420> macmartine, are there any cron jobs running as that user possibly?
[22:30] <macmartine> Trevor69420: It's just some user I made with ISPConfig, then removed, but apparenly they aren't completely gone. Um, shouldn't be, but I'll check
[22:31] <macmartine> Trevor69420: nope, all cron jobs are disabled
[22:31] <tyteen4a03> Hi, I got a kernal panic when booting 11.10 with the kernal 3.0.0-16. It says "VPS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)". 3.0.0-12 however works fine. Could this be my old computer or a bug?
[22:31] <StevenCodes221> velko im not on linux..
[22:31] <sun_devil> I did a ps > vi myprocesses.txt  and it created a file, but nothing in it?
[22:31] <randomDude> I need some advice on how to purge a broken postgres install : http://dpaste.com/708653/
[22:31] <Trevor69420> man macmartine i dunno strange
[22:31] <velko> StevenCodes221, this happens on the server, right? the key was generated on the client, the public part was transfered to the server and you do the appending on the server
[22:31] <macmartine> Trevor69420: I don't see anythig running under that user in 'top'
[22:31] <velko> StevenCodes221, what runs on the server?
[22:32] <StevenCodes221> velko i think i got it
[22:32] <StevenCodes221> tyvm
[22:32] <StevenCodes221> :D
[22:34] <velko> sun_devil, "ps > myproccesses.txt", not "ps > vi myproccesses.txt"
[22:35] <kz3> hello everyone
[22:36] <sun_devil> cool thanks, only took me an hour to do it
[22:37] <MonkeyDust> guys, in oneiric, ubuntu 3d, i cannot reset unity to defaults -- "(process:13906): GConf-WARNING **: Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon" -- pastebinit is not possible -- "You are trying to send an empty document, exiting."
[22:37] <MonkeyDust> hints  tips?
[22:39] <MonkeyDust> it says: "GConf Error: No D-BUS daemon running" -- the guest session loads normally
[22:41] <Enemtee> hmm, i have a question, i've tried installing the ATI prop-drivers in 11.10 ubuntu. how can i check if they are properly installed?
[22:41] <macmartine> Trevor69420: Ah, I see they have 2 processes running: https://gist.github.com/1927644 and when I kill them they are recreated. How can I figure out what's starting them?
[22:42] <velko> Enemtee, if you know the names of the drivers you can list all loaded drivers with "sudo lsmod" and look or grep for them ("sudo lsmod | grep drivername")
[22:42] <genewitch> how do i update jaunty to a more recent version?
[22:42] <genewitch> i can't find jaunty under and dist directories anywhere
[22:43] <SockPants> i can't manage to install gnome tweak tool
[22:43] <SockPants> it says my version of gnome 3 is insufficient
[22:45] <SockPants> gnome-panel is 3.2.0 and the gnome-tweak-tool is 3.3.5
[22:45] <SockPants> how do i either get an older version of tweak tool or a newer version of gnome-panel (whichever is best)
[22:46] <xangua> SockPants: latest gnome-tweak-tool is 3.2 in oneiric
[22:46] <glebihan> SockPants, the version of gnome-tweak-tool in the repositories in 3.2.0
[22:46] <glebihan> SockPants, do you have a ppa enabled ?
[22:47] <SockPants> glebihan: i do
[22:47] <SockPants> it only lists that one too
[22:47] <SockPants> i'm not sure how to remove it tbh
[22:47] <glebihan> SockPants, then your solution is to remove the ppa and then reinstall the version from the repos
[22:47] <glebihan> SockPants, you can remove the PPA from the software sources tool
[22:48] <SockPants> when i try to open that from software center it closes again
[22:49] <glebihan> SockPants, weird... another solution would be to delete the files corresponding to that ppa in /etc/apt/sources.list.d and run "sudo apt-get update"
[22:50] <SockPants> thanks, great
[22:50] <SockPants> now that i have tweak tool, where can i find it?
[22:51] <glebihan> SockPants, it's labelled "advanced settings" in the menu
[22:53] <boxbeatsy> hi, does anyone know how i can split a 1M line text file into five files each containing 200K lines?
[22:54] <boxbeatsy> via command line?
[22:54] <sun_devil> If I had someone using my systems so send emails and I found them with the last command, how could I prevent this user from using my system.
[22:54] <glebihan> !info split | boxbeatsy
[22:54] <glebihan> boxbeatsy, well then split is a command...
[22:54] <glebihan> boxbeatsy, have a look at "man split"
[22:54] <sun_devil> hypothetical question
[22:54] <SockPants> glebihan: awesome, thanks! im all set for now
[22:54] <SockPants> later!
[22:55] <boxbeatsy> glebihan: oo interesting, thanks :D
[22:55] <glebihan> boxbeatsy, you're welcome
[22:55] <ikonia> sun_devil: if you don't know the answer to that question - shut down your mail server straight away
[22:55] <phpn00b>  23:55:32 up 1 day,  7:07,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.05
[22:55] <ikonia> sun_devil: then delete the users accounts
[22:55] <ikonia> sun_devil: then monitor your mail server for access and access attempts
[22:55] <ikonia> phpn00b: ?
[22:57] <sun_devil> userdel username ?
[22:57] <ikonia> sun_devil: yes, but shut your mail server down straight away
[22:57] <sun_devil> how would you shutdown your mail server, lets say pine
[22:58] <sun_devil> rm pine ?
[22:58] <hatop> pine is a mail "client"
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> yeah i thought that
[22:59] <hatop> sounds like someone was just sending in a regular way, not making you into a spam haven
[22:59] <sun_devil> userdel -r
[22:59] <Ignisss> ive got a weird thing, ive got this pc running ubuntu 11.10 and it has a raid volume in it wich i created from 4 drives (raid 5) with mdadm and named /dev/md0
[23:00] <Ignisss> however sometimes when i boot up it gets made /dev/md127 and mounted to /media/Mediaserver_ instead of /media/Mediaserver
[23:00] <Ignisss> wich obviously messes up a lot of programs using it, anyone know why its doing that?
[23:00] <Ian_Moone> I want to install KDE, but (call me picky) I don't want it to change the boot screen to Kubuntu. That happened with my laptop. How do I prevent this?
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> Ignisss: add it in /etc/fstab and use its UUID
[23:01] <Ignisss> i did that actually but then when i boot up, ubuntu gives the message at boot
[23:01] <CT1> Having grown up in a generation that intuitively knows how to use things (computers/digital cameras/mp3 players... even VCRs) I'm unsure of what desktop environment, distribution or even OS, is "best" to introduce my 65 year old relative to.  Does anyone with real-life experience of acquainting computer illiterate elder-folk to the digital age have any tips? I'm comfortable with most of today's "environments" so from a support perspecti
[23:01] <Ignisss> going it cant find it wait or skip
[23:02] <Bastian_B> Hi, I am trying to find the name of the package that allow to take a window by its title bar, and to drag it to left or right side of the screen and it enlarges the window on the half side of the screen in ubuntu 11. Anyone know what is its named?
[23:02] <eSoul> CT1 - get them an iPad, if all they want is email, web, game-ish things, could be a good choice
[23:02] <Ignisss> o wait i didnt add the uuid in /etc/fstab just the name
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> Ian_Moone: install it as usual then run:  sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth    and switch it back....
[23:03] <Ian_Moone> @CT1: I seem to remember a DE for DSLinux that replicated XP. That is the only one that my 78 year-old relative would touch. Never got them to install it.
[23:03] <velko> Bastian_B, i think this is a feature of gnome3 shell. i'm not aware of a separate package you can install to do this
[23:04] <CT1> eSoul: $$ doesn't permit new hardware.  I have a laptop to spare.
[23:05] <eSoul> I would like to know if there is anything more I should do to get my sandy bridge graphics to work in 11.10.  System Info lists graphics as unknown and I didnt know if there was anything I need to do to make sure to get full support
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> eSoul: you may need an xorg.conf file if your monitor isn't reporting its abilities
[23:06] <george> how do I become su in ubuntu 10.10
[23:06] <eSoul> CT1 -- good point.   XP if you can get a cheap copy off the eBays.  Maybe 7 if the machine has the horsepower.  Anything else may be too much trouble for what its worth
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> eSoul: what release are you using?
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> george: sudo -i
[23:06] <Ignisss> so id add "UUID=94eb891d:982c1cac:c7780c0e:bc15422d  /media/Mediaserver ext4 auto 0 0" to fstab instead of "/dev/md0 /media/Mediaserver ext4 auto 0 0" right?
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> george: su isn't a user, so you cannot become it
[23:06] <george> thank you
[23:06] <eSoul> ActionParsnip -- 11.10, and its not the monitors abilities im worried about, im more intersted in hardware acceleration and the like
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> eSoul: if you have low res then you will probably need the file to set the display
[23:07] <eSoul> i have the full 1080p
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> eSoul: sounds like its doing what it should..
[23:07] <eSoul> I plugged in HDMI to my living room display
[23:08] <hatop> eSoul: what does sudo lsmod -l | grep intel show?
[23:08] <eSoul> ActionParsnip: thats good then.  I just didnt know if I was going to get hardware accelerated video playback, 3d graphics (even though I know the sandy bridge isnt for gaming) and the like
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> eSoul: if you can log in to Unity (not Unity2D) then its working
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> eSoul: you can game on sandybridge
[23:09] <eSoul> hatop: just a bunch of modules listed for intel hda sound
[23:09] <hatop> k
[23:09] <hatop> sounds like there is a kernel module not being loaded
[23:10] <hatop> and yes, if you can load regular unity it should be working
[23:10] <hatop> you can also try sudo glx_gears as a test of the mesaGL framework, but thats about all its good for.
[23:10] <eSoul> ActionParsnip: I mean I know its possible, but 3d gaming on sandy bridge is abysmal compared to nvidia/ati
[23:11] <eSoul> Well, it doesnt complain when I log in that Unity cant load, so I figure thats fine
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> eSoul: oh totally but it will work, its not a bad GPU, just not great
[23:11] <DonAllen> quick question, is there a beginner mail room?
[23:12] <eSoul> hatop -- what package supplies glx_gears. I dont seem to have it out of the box
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> DonAllen: how do you mean?
[23:12] <hatop> eSoul: hmmmm mine was installed by default. I'm not sure
[23:12] <Bastian_B> thanks <velko>
[23:13] <Ian-Moone> What are the packages for KDE that I need to install?
[23:14] <pedro> is there any utility to check the hard disk for errors?
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> Ian-Moone: plasma-desktop will install a minimal KDE, or you can install kubuntu-desktop
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> pedro: fsck
[23:14] <tyteen4a03> Hi, I got a kernal panic when booting 11.10 with the kernal 3.0.0-16. It says "VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)". 3.0.0-12 however works fine. Could this be my old computer or a bug?
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> pedro: the partition will need to be unmounted to be checked
[23:14] <broo> eSoul: looks like mesa-utils supplies it
[23:14] <pedro> ActionParsnip: but that one wont check it will give a warning for danger
[23:14] <pedro> ActionParsnip: exaclty
[23:14] <eSoul> thanks broo -- my google searching wasnt as fast as yours :-p
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> pedro: boot to liveCD
[23:15] <TheoMurpse> New to Ubuntu. How do I install (g)ddrescue? apt doesn't know where it is, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery says use "use any method" to install it, but Ubuntu Software Center doesn't have it, etc. How?
[23:15] <TheoMurpse> The link says it's called "gddrescue" but I can't find it.
[23:15] <luvsawti> is there any way install c++ in ubuntu ?
[23:15] <broo> eSoul: apt-file search /glxgears
[23:15] <eSoul> ahh, thanks for that broo
[23:15] <verone> bonjour
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> luvsawti: install build-essential
[23:15] <pedro> ActionParsnip: ok..i didnt understand some errors when doing the boot hdisk scan... i can quite understant what errors where that, i dont know if it reazon for alarm , the system is working ok
[23:15] <Somelauw> luvsawti: If you have gcc you can compile c++
[23:15] <TheoMurpse> luvsawti, Isn't that just gcc?
[23:15] <pedro> routine boot hd scan
[23:16] <Somelauw> which you probably have
[23:16] <verone> what it's french canal please ???
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> pedro: boot to liveCD and you can fsck there
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> !fr
[23:16] <Somelauw> verone: #ubuntu-fr
[23:16] <eSoul> TheoMurpse -- I was just able to apt-get install gddrescue
[23:16] <jeremiah_gatong> hello all
[23:16] <Ian_Moone> Also, I did that on my laptop (sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth) and it changed it for shutdown, but when I booted again, it was back to kubuntu.
[23:16] <verone> think's
[23:16] <orkid> is sourceforge down?
[23:16] <eSoul> the app is actually ddrescue though after itsn installed
[23:16] <chipotle> how can i read ext4 partitions in ubuntu on win7?
[23:16] <luvsawti> does it will give output in dos mode ?
[23:16] <TheoMurpse> orkid, http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.downforeveryoneorjustme.com%2F&ei=3g5MT_OCFs-LsALpy50K&usg=AFQjCNE3hWZpb0i32ZJjQ4oqEpEnDkHdBg
[23:17] <TheoMurpse> err sorry www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> luvsawti: how do you mean?
[23:17] <TheoMurpse> eSoul when I try I get "E: Unable to locate package gddrescue"
[23:17] <luvsawti> what do u mean ?
[23:18] <TheoMurpse> I just downloaded 11.whatever last night, so I have newest ubuntu
[23:18] <TheoMurpse> newest stable or whatnot
[23:18] <eSoul> TheoMurpse: apt-get update first maybe
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> luvsawti: what does "luvsawti: does it will give output in dos mode ?" mean?
[23:18] <eSoul> "apt-get update"
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> TheoMurpse: ubuntu 11 doesn't exist. Ubuntu 11.04 and Ubuntu 11.10 does
[23:18] <TheoMurpse> eSoul nope same thing
[23:18] <eSoul> i just did it will the latest 11.10
[23:19] <eSoul> gddrescue, right?
[23:19] <TheoMurpse> ActionParsnip, OK excuse me. 11.something. No idea how to check which one.
[23:19] <luvsawti> yes i had used c++ in window but now i am using ubuntu so do not about it ?
[23:19] <Ignisss> erm
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> TheoMurpse: well, it could be one of 2 releases.
[23:19] <TheoMurpse> luvsawti, are you aware c++ is just a compiler, not an IDE?
[23:19] <luvsawti> ya
[23:19] <eSoul> i have gddrescue in both 11.10 and 11.04
[23:19] <TheoMurpse> ActionParsnip, OK, should it matter which version when trying to install gddrescue? Apt doesn't seem to know where it is, even after sudo apt update
[23:20] <Ignisss> is there a reason why the UUID i get from mdadm --detail is different then from ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ ?
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> luvsawti: if you install build-essential you will get a full ANSI standard C and C++ compiler
[23:20] <TheoMurpse> luvsawti, err, sorry meant it's a language, not an IDE
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> !info gddrescue
[23:20] <eSoul> TheoMurpse: its "apt-get update" and then "apt-get install gddrescue"
[23:20] <luvsawti> but how i will run it bcz i had install it !
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> TheoMurpse: its in the universe repo, do you have that enabled?
[23:21] <TheoMurpse> eSoul, "apt-get update" E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[23:21] <TheoMurpse> I am in the livecd righ tnow.
[23:21] <TheoMurpse> haven't installed to HDD since I'm trying to rescue the HDD with (g)ddrescue
[23:21] <eSoul> TheoMurpse -- you need to do "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get install gddrescue"
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> TheoMurpse: do you have software centre open?
[23:22] <eSoul> im sorry, I forgot the sudos
[23:22] <TheoMurpse> esoul that is precisely what i did
[23:22] <TheoMurpse> ActionParsnip, Yes, I do.
[23:22] <TheoMurpse> no idea about enabling universal, never did that
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> TheoMurpse: thats why you got the error. Only ONE app can be accessinig the packages
[23:22] <adhytia> hello
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> TheoMurpse: you can enable the repos in software centre
[23:22] <TheoMurpse> ActionParsnip, Just closed USC it and tried again. Same error about unable to lock.
[23:23] <TheoMurpse> but with sudo it works fine to update
[23:23] <TheoMurpse> But still cannot locate gddrescue as a package.
[23:23] <luishasbon> Greetings dear readers, Its really great for me to join this chat again.
[23:23] <Yadira-007> i need to format a micro sd card,,i cant do anything,,is read only
[23:23] <eSoul> TheoMurpse -- give it a few more secs, and then after sudo apt-get update, do a sudo apt-get install gddrescue, you should be fine now
[23:23] <luishasbon> Today I have a really specific issue and I wonder If any of you could help me.
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> Yadira-007: do it in gparted, must be unmounted
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> TheoMurpse: enable the universe repo
[23:24] <virunga> Hi, what's the last kernel version i can install from repo?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> virunga: for which release?
[23:24] <TheoMurpse> OK didn't have universe. enabled and now doing apt-get update
[23:24] <luishasbon> I have just compiled OpenCV myself, I have the .so libraries in a folder, but it seems that my executables are not linking correctly to those  .so , how to link a dynamic library to an executable or viceversa? Thank you!
[23:25] <virunga> ActionParsnip, ubuntu 11.10
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image-generic
[23:25] <TheoMurpse> OK thanks ActionParsnip esoul!
[23:25] <virunga> ActionParsnip, ok, thank you
[23:26] <David_> I got an iphone 4, should I upgrade to android for the ubuntu desktio app?
[23:26] <David_> desktop*
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> David_: ask in #ubuntu-phone
[23:26] <ikonia> David_: you can't
[23:26] <ikonia> alfredo: please use common sense
[23:26] <ikonia> oops
[23:27] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: please use common sense
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> funny how the iphone users want android now..
[23:27] <luishasbon> I have just compiled OpenCV myself, I have the .so libraries in a folder, but it seems that my executables are not linking correctly to those  .so , how to link a dynamic library to an executable or viceversa? Thank you!!!
[23:27] <David_> i never liked apple
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: what?
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: (23:27:19) The topic for #ubuntu-phone is: Discussion for all things regarding Ubuntu in smartphone form factor | http://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone | This channel is logged to http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: where is my common sense lacking ?
[23:27] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: the product isn't released, there is zero information on it, "should I upgrade my iphone to android" "ask in #ubuntu-phone" - please.
[23:28] <StevenCodes221> is there any other way to send commands to the server other then SSH
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: thats the channel for discussion on the technology
[23:28] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: there is nothing to discuss, there is no information
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: people can still come together and discuss the technology though can't they. Hopes and thought etc
[23:29] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: he was asking "should I change my phone"
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: which is offtopic here, but the folks in there may be able to shed some light etc
[23:30] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: there is NO information, there is nothign to shed light with
[23:30] <Ignisss> is it a bad thing that i have both mdadm and disk utility on my ubuntu is it possible thats the reason for the different uuids and the wrong mounting?
[23:30] <Yadira-007> i dont have unmoubt option in context menu for unmount my SD card,,and when i try to unmount with gparted it stays just unmounting all day long :(
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: its the best I can recommend and the user wants info on the phone stuff, so its a good call
[23:30] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: sorry - no it's not
[23:30] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: how about "the websays says all the inforamtion there is"
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: so then, suggest a channel
[23:31] <ikonia> "the web page"
[23:31] <hoshi411> does anyone know of an irc channel where I can go to get general troubleshooting advice, non distro specific?
[23:31] <Pici> hoshi411: ##linux
[23:31] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: there isn't a valid channel as there is nothing to discuss as there is no inforamtion
[23:31] <hoshi411> Pici: thanks
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: thats like telling someone to 'google it' which is discouraged
[23:31] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: no it's not
[23:31] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: here is the official URL - that is ALL the inforamtion there is
[23:31] <yugandhar> Hi Everyone
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: i thought there was NO information?
[23:31] <Myrtti> GUYS
[23:32] <Myrtti> elsewhere
[23:32] <luvsawti> thank u frds !
[23:32] <yugandhar> Could anyone please help me on one issue?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> yugandhar: wassup?
[23:33] <yugandhar> i am getting YPBINDPROC_DOMAIN: Domain not bind  when using sudo
[23:33] <yugandhar> Parsnip: i am getting this oftenly
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> yugandhar: can you run:  echo hostname:; cat /etc/hostname; echo resol.conf:; cat /etc/resolv.conf          pastebin the output please
[23:34] <Ian_Moone> Also, How do I change the mouse back to GNOME defaults?
[23:35] <StevenCodes221> Way to send commands other than ssh?
[23:36] <hoshi411> recently I have seen on youtube, ubuntu running on several tablet devices
[23:36] <hoshi411> inside chroot
[23:36] <hoshi411> anyone familiar with that?
[23:36] <yugandhar> Parsnip , ubuntuser1.inmobi.com  for echo $HOSTNAME
[23:37] <yugandhar> same for cat /etc/hostname
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> yugandhar: run it as ONE command, then pastebin the whole output
[23:37] <yugandhar> nameserver  <IP_ADDRESS> for cat /etc/resolv.conf
[23:37] <eip56> Afternoon all
[23:37] <Ian_Moone> I have KDE on my laptop, and I reall like the GNOME mouse better. That's the only thing I can't figure out how to change back.
[23:38] <yugandhar> Parsnip:-  i am getting that problem in virtual machine os
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> yugandhar: fine, can you pastebin the output of the full command please
[23:39] <yugandhar> Parsnip, i have installed dns, dhcp, postfix, nfs, ftp and nis also...
[23:39] <yugandhar> all are working fine except nis
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> yugandhar: i thought the issue was sudo?
[23:40] <yugandhar> cho hostname
[23:40] <yugandhar> sorry
[23:40] <yugandhar> Parsnip .But Nis is not working
[23:41] <but> lisa
[23:41] <but> lista
[23:41] <hotbird> Hi
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> but: we don't file share here
[23:41] <yugandhar> Parsnip, i am not getting that msg with sudo if i stop the nis service
[23:42] <EvilResistance> but:  can we help you?
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> yugandhar: ahh I see
[23:42] <yugandhar> Parsnip, i will be very much happy, if you help on this, bcz i am getting this problem since two days
[23:43] <yugandhar> i reffered so many books and so many links in google. But no luck
[23:43] <goddard> how can I diff 2 folders recursively?
[23:44] <EvilResistance> !privmsg | butg
[23:44] <EvilResistance> !privmsg | but *
[23:44] <glebihan> goddard, diff -r
[23:44] <goddard> thanks :D
[23:45] <fearphage> what's the command to update/rebuilf the bamf.index?
[23:45] <goddard> glebihan: with that also diff file differences not just names?
[23:45] <glebihan> goddard, yes
[23:47] <Oer> fearphage, something wrong with your softwarecentre ?
[23:48] <luishasbon> I have just compiled OpenCV myself, I have the .so libraries in a folder, but it seems that my executables are not linking correctly to those  .so , how to link a dynamic library to an executable or viceversa? Thank you!
[23:48] <fearphage> Oer: i made my own .desktop file and it won't come up in unity finder or whatever it's referred to as
[23:49] <fearphage> Oer: i made put it in ~/.local/share/applications
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> fearphage: put it in /usr/share/applications   does it show then?
[23:51] <fearphage> ActionParsnip: is something scanning that folder for changes?
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> fearphage: not sure, could log off and on...
[23:53] <fearphage> ActionParsnip: i could but there is a manual way to force a rebuild of the index. just trying to find out what it is. my googlefu is failing me
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> fearphage: thats the only way I can think of
[23:54] <fearphage> ActionParsnip: unless it was removed, there is a commandline way to initiate a scan
[23:54] <fearphage> i'll let you know if i re-find it
[23:55] <Gaming4JC> I'm having an issue with my graphics card, it won't startx :(
[23:55] <papachan> hi there
[23:55] <Gaming4JC> also I can't seem to get a mounted usb drive so I can't save the log... very problimatic...
[23:56] <Gaming4JC> I don't suppose anyone would know of an easy way to report the log? :/
[23:59] <Star_Light> ]synonyms laugh
[23:59] <Star_Light> ]synonyms fun


[03:09] <fbond> hi
[03:10] <fbond> i see the dpatch system has been dumped for the ubuntu kernel
[03:10] <fbond> what is the new method?
[03:16] <infinity> We're maintaining it directly in git now.
[03:17] <fbond> right
[03:17] <infinity> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide
[03:17] <fbond> i guess I can assume git is not much like other version control systems
[03:17] <infinity> Are any of them like the others? :)
[03:18] <fbond> heh
[03:18] <infinity> It's a distributed revision control system, perhaps like arch/baz/bzr, but not at all like them at the same time. :)
[03:18] <fbond> hmm
[03:18] <fbond> I found the old system convenient
[03:18] <fbond> to package a custom-patched kernel
[03:18] <infinity> (But git is what's used by kernel.org, so it's simplest for us to also use it to do rapid merging and cherry-picking of patchsets)
[03:18] <fbond> i just needed to add a patch to the debian/patches dir
[03:18] <fbond> ok
[03:18] <fbond> I guess I'll go learn that then
[03:19] <infinity> It speeds up our development a fair bit to be able to track upstream changes without doing it all manually.
[03:19] <fbond> this makes sense
[03:19] <fbond> upstream releases diffs though, too, eh?
[03:19] <fbond> :)
[03:20] <infinity> Massive monolithic diffs.
[03:20] <infinity> If you want to track small changesets, or one specific branch of a driver, you either get to do it all by hand, or you do it with git.
[03:20] <fbond> i see
[03:21] <infinity> With git, we get branch history (and tracking) for free, so we can udate a specific driver to current, or cherry-pick a fix here and there without worrying about patch conflicts and other craziness.
[03:21] <fbond> ok ok i'm sold enough
[03:21] <fbond> :)
[03:49] <fbond> infinity
[03:49] <fbond> okay, i'm back
[03:49] <fbond> I'm looking at this git stuff, and wondering how I can use it to git the diff from vanilla 2.6.15 to ubuntu 2.6.15?
[03:50] <fbond> er not git the diff ... get the diff
[03:50] <fbond> or generate it, anyway
[04:00] <dilinger> that's a nice rally cry.  git the diff!
[04:02] <fbond> yes, well git is complex enough that i can't relate to your positivity here
[04:02] <fbond> svn diff -r 0:HEAD seems easy
[04:02] <fbond> git diff ??? HEAD ?
[04:02] <fbond> what is ???
[04:02] <fbond> if I want to have a diff from 2.6.15 to Ubuntu's 2.6.15?
[04:25] <infinity> If you want to generate the diff with git, you need to know the tag that represents 2.6.15
[04:25] <infinity> Alternately, you could just diff against a tarball. :)
[04:51] <fbond> hmm, well I can see how git makes it easier to apply patches, but it certainly doesn't make it very easy to figure out what's already been applied, unless I'm missing something
[04:51] <fbond> and I should think the tag representing 2.6.15 would be fairly standard info to want...
[04:51] <fbond> and I can't seem to find it anywhere
[04:52] <dilinger> v2.6.15?
[04:53] <fbond> brilliant
[04:53] <fbond> with dpatch, it was clear what each incremental patch accomplished
[04:53] <dilinger> more likely, you want v<IP_ADDRESS> or something
[04:54] <dilinger> http://kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/chrisw/linux-2.6.15.y.git;a=summary
[04:55] <fbond> how can I see the incremental patches that were applied by the ubuntu devs?
[03:43] <mjg59> BenC_: Sent
[03:44] <BenC_> thanks
[04:08] <mjg59> BenC: Argh. ipw3945 requires newer ieee80211
[04:08] <BenC> usual story :/
[04:08] <mjg59> I'll send a patch anyway
[04:13] <BenC> is that the new intel pro wireless driver?
[04:13] <BenC> the one that requires a binary-only daemon?
[04:14] <mjg59> Yeah
[04:15] <mjg59> That'll need to go in restricted somewhere
[04:15] <BenC> probably just add it to restricted-modules package so we don't have to create a new package
[04:47] <fbond> Hi
[04:47] <fbond> Shouldn't the ubuntu kernel be maintained as a separate branch in git?
[04:47] <fbond> in other words, shouldn't master be upstream?
[04:48] <fbond> it's very difficult to isolate the ubuntu changes in a meaningful way
[04:55] <fbond> c
[05:02] <BenC> doing it in a branch wouldn't help
[05:03] <fbond> I'm having a bit of a hard time working with git to do what I want
[05:03] <BenC> you can always git-fetch the mainline kernel into a local branch of an ubuntu-2.6 clone
[05:03] <BenC> that's what I do
[05:03] <fbond> okay
[05:03] <fbond> and then do git diff to see the differences?
[05:03] <fbond> but that creates a VERY large diff
[05:03] <BenC> git-diff-tree
[05:04] <BenC> git-log, and look for UBUNTU
[05:04] <BenC> all of our changes have UBUNTU in the summary
[05:04] <fbond> there's one pretty severe complication, I think
[05:04] <fbond> back when dpatch was the norm, I could easily see the differences between 2.6.12, and 2.6.12-ubuntu
[05:05] <fbond> now, that's difficult because the git repo includes ubuntu changes made prior to 2.6.15
[05:05] <BenC> all the git changes were done during 2.6.15 development
[05:05] <fbond> ok
[05:06] <fbond> will ubuntu sync with upstream's git repo at every new minor version?
[05:06] <BenC> it's not really the intention of the repo to make it easy to disect each individual patch between our kernel and mainline
[05:06] <fbond> i figured that out already
[05:06] <BenC> yes, after dapper, we will move on to 2.6.17-git
[05:07] <fbond> I had packaged an alternative kernel (-ck) on breezy
[05:07] <fbond> it was much easier then
[05:07] <BenC> most of the local changes will be rebased (so deltas are against newer changes)
[05:07] <BenC> why is it so hard now?
[05:07] <BenC> you apply a diff, and recompile
[05:07] <fbond> not really
[05:07] <fbond> with larger patch sets it's likely you will have two incompatible patches
[05:08] <fbond> or more than two
[05:08] <fbond> it's nice to be able to selectively remove patches
[05:08] <fbond> for instance, try to package an -mm kernel using the ubuntu git repo
[05:08] <fbond> that is more complicated than anything i'm doing
[05:08] <BenC> our repo isn't really meant for that type of thing
[05:09] <fbond> yeah... using dpatch it was much easier.  what approach would be the closest approximation, using the new git repo?
[05:09] <BenC> using dpatch was much harder for us
[05:09] <fbond> i can see that
[05:10] <fbond> it makes sense ultimately, given the priorities
[05:10] <BenC> right, it was stricly a maint decision
[05:10] <BenC> plus being able to interoperate with upstream was a huge bonus
[05:11] <fbond> yes, I understand the benefits.  Trying to do what I'm trying to do is maddening, though.
[05:11] <fbond> Any advice you might have as to how I can simplify this would be appreciated.
[05:11] <BenC> what sort of patches are you incorporating?
[05:11] <fbond> I had done -ck on breezy.  This is is a patchset for reducing latency.
[05:12] <fbond> Now I'm looking at -rt, which is more aggressive.
[05:12] <fbond> It's a fairly significant patch set
[05:12] <fbond> And needs to be applied before the Ubuntu changes, IMO
[05:12] <fbond> Otherwise, resolving conflicts is very difficult, and likely to lead to a broken kernel
[05:27] <BenC> IMO, that -rt patch is not a good idea against our kernel at all
[05:27] <BenC> it touches a lot of drivers, and all of our non-stock drivers would be left broken
[05:27] <BenC> IMO, it would be best to have it against a stock kernel
[05:27] <BenC> <IP_ADDRESS> for example
[05:28] <fbond> hmm
[05:28] <fbond> perhaps -ck is a better choice in the first place, then
[05:28] <BenC> I looked at that patch before, and it was not trivial at all
[05:28] <fbond> No.  But if it was, it wouldn't be worth creating an alternative package for :)
[05:29] <BenC> you could use stock <IP_ADDRESS>, copy our configs, and rebuild for generic systems (i386, k7, 686, smp)
[05:29] <BenC> using make-kpkg
[05:30] <fbond> Well, my ultimate goal is to keep as many non-stock drivers as possible
[05:30] <fbond> You do a great job creating a kernel package with extremely good compatibility
[05:31] <fbond> I want to preserve that work ,if possible
[05:32] <fbond> My breezy machine at home runs 2.6.12-ck6, and it runs extremely well.  Almost all Ubuntu changes to stock 2.6.12 are preserved.  Splash screen works still.  Etc.  It's much more ideal than creating an anti-Ubuntu -rt kernel package.
[05:33] <fbond> And it builds just like the Ubuntu packages.  apt-get source linux-source-2.6.12-ck6 ... dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot ...
[05:38] <BenC> the only thing I can suggest is just fixing the failed patch chunks and rediffing
[05:39] <BenC> I mean, we haven't create a lot of incompatible changes to our kernel, so your most likely problem is just patch offsets, or slight variations in portions of the code
[05:41] <fbond> hmm.  ok.  for the record, i disapprove. :)  thanks for your help.
[06:28] <jbailey> BenC: ping?
[06:30] <BenC> jbailey: pong
[06:30] <jbailey> BenC: Do we have a wiki page on the Right Way to build your own drivers from source?
[06:30] <jbailey> Like, with all the packages that need installing, etc?
[06:31] <BenC> not that I know of, but basically it involves installing the linux-headers-2.6.15-VER-FLAVOUR you want to build for
[06:31] <BenC> apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:31] <BenC> that should do it
[06:32] <BenC> probably don't even need build-essential, but it helps cover things
[06:32] <jbailey> 'kay.  The sets up the /lib/modules/`uname -r'/build links and everything?
[06:32] <BenC> yep
[06:32] <jbailey> Without build essential, they won't get far anyway. =)
[06:32] <BenC> probably not
[06:33] <BenC> I don't think linux-headers depends on gcc, binutils, or make
[06:48] <jbailey> BenC: Got a sec to preview: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelSourceDriver ?
[06:48] <BenC> jbailey: ..
[06:49] <jbailey> BenC: I'd like to be able to point them at a web page that has the instructions.  That way it's something a little warm and fuzzy.  Documentation almost always feels cuddly.
[06:50] <BenC> looks good
[06:50] <makx> jbailey: ubuntu uses the smp alternatives patch for x86 and amd64 surprises me that you speak of up/smp flavours
[06:50] <makx> thought they would only be left for ppc
[06:50] <jbailey> makx: Think breezy.
[06:51] <makx> ok.
[06:51] <jbailey> I guess I could make that more clear, though.
[06:51] <jbailey> I mostly want to drill into people that "Integration is good.  Try hardest to do that.
[06:53] <BenC> jbailey: drill it more that they should go upstream to linus instead of "can you include this in ubuntu"
[06:54] <BenC> like use an impact chisel to pound it in :)
[06:55] <BenC> we, (dist kernel developers) usually catch a lot of flack from upstream for including non-stock drivers in the dist, because it prolongs the driver from getting into upstream
[06:56] <jbailey> BenC: Refresh and reread the top part?  I'm wondering that that change is enough.
[06:58] <makx> only missing the review part of the submission cycle
[06:58] <BenC> * Getting your driver integrated into upstream means it will not break because of kernel API changes, it also means all of your users (single and distribution) will always have access to the latest version.
[06:58] <makx> but i guess that's what those are afraid of
[06:58] <BenC> that's a separate doc that I am writing
[06:59] <BenC> jbailey: that kind of combines two of your other points, so feel free to ignore it :)
[06:59] <jbailey> Does upstream commit to fixing your driver on api changes?
[07:00] <jbailey> ACtually, I think it's probably enough.  Most people will probably just ignore that section anyway.
[07:00] <cjb> jbailey: In general?  Yes, the proposer of a new API is expected to patch drivers using the old one.
[07:01] <jbailey> Ah, interesting.
[07:01] <cjb> "The Kernel ABI can change from time to time." # What does this mean, syscalls?
[07:03] <jbailey> Driver ABI
[07:03] <cjb> Syscalls don't change during a kernel series.  The API can change, but that's the whole point.  You might want to link to Documentation/stable_api_nonsense.txt .
[07:03] <jbailey> Well, IIRC syscalls are simply supposed to never change.
[07:10] <BenC> cjb: ABI is not syscalls
[07:11] <BenC> ABI is any function that is EXPORT_SYMBOL'd for use by modules
[07:11] <BenC> if the calling conventions change, then the driver/module ABI changes, which means modules have to be recompiled
[07:11] <BenC> it's the whole basis for the linux-image-2.6.15-ABI-ARCH naming
[07:22] <cjb> I see.
[07:57] <cjb> BenC: Did you know that the driver maintainer document you just posted to lkml has broken wrapping?
[08:06] <mkrufky> BenC: cI just saw your LKML documentation update ..... it's difficult to review it in blob form though... Is this a new document, or a new version of an already existing one?
[08:07] <mkrufky> (i thought Ive seen this before, but not compeletely sure)
[08:13] <BenC> cjb: my email client probably wrapped different then my editor
[08:13] <BenC> mkrufky: update of a document I posted previously
[08:15] <BenC> mkrufky: it's never been included anymore, so it's basically "new"
[08:15] <BenC> s/anymore/anywhere/
[08:18] <mkrufky> ah, ok makes sense... i'll read it over then... i'll rreply if i have any comments
[08:18] <mkrufky> thanks
[08:24] <Mithrandir> BenC: it seems like readahead and unionfs aren't too friendly, especially not in vmware.
[08:29] <BenC> Mithrandir: that's the unionfs/squashfs oops that's been occuring all along on ppc
[08:29] <Mithrandir> BenC: I see it on i386 too, though
[08:29] <BenC> mkrufky: thanks
[08:29] <BenC> Mithrandir: yeah, it's a condition that isn't ppc specific, it's just racey and arbitrary
[08:30] <Mithrandir> unsure if it's there on real hardware or not, but it's definitively there under vmware, to the point of having the live cd unusable with readahead.
[08:30] <Mithrandir> any chance we can get it fixed or should I disable readahead?
[08:30] <BenC> I have a bug report about it on actual x86 hw
[08:30] <BenC> Mithrandir: just use squashfs 3 :)
[08:30] <BenC> that fixed it on ppc
[08:30] <BenC> other than that, the squashfs author is looking into why unionfs and squashfs are acting like this
[08:31] <BenC> s/acting/interacting/
[08:33] <Mithrandir> yeah, it'd be nice to have it resolved


[13:15] <rick_h_> morning
[13:16] <brousch> yo
[13:32] <_stink_> hello
[14:04] <cmaloney> Good morning
[20:08] <ColonelPanic001> morning, cmaloney
[20:09] <cmaloney> Morning. :)
[20:12] <ColonelPanic001> I learned today you're not the only juggler in the channel.
[20:12] <ColonelPanic001> I had no idea there were that many jugglers, but jayis claims to also be able to juggle.
[20:13] <mrgoodcat> think its afternoon by now
[20:13] <mrgoodcat> heh
[20:16] <cmaloney> Ah, cool.
[20:16] <cmaloney> I haven't bbeen to the mcjc in quite some time. :(
[20:16] <cmaloney> it's opposite CHC.


[06:38]  * nlsthzn waves
[06:39]  * NRWlion waves back
[06:39] <nlsthzn> Alo NRWlion
[06:40] <NRWlion> nlsthzn: how is your cold?
[06:40] <nlsthzn> NRWlion: long passed thanks :)
[18:13] <NRWlion> *knock knock*
[21:41] <nhandler> I'll postthe a3 announcement
[21:43] <pleia2> thanks


[07:14]  * OvenWerks is grumpy but relieved.
[07:15] <OvenWerks> I found that while json does save things in other things than text, it does not deal with True and False the way I thought.
[07:17] <OvenWerks> so json-param = old param doesn't work but json-param = bool(old-param in ['True']) does  :P
[07:20] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: anyway, I have alomost finished covnerting autojack to the new config style. Trying to break things to find bugs :)
[07:23] <OvenWerks> autojack starts up ok, runs jack, makes pulse bridges. runs zita when usb plugged in.
[07:23] <OvenWerks> unplugging not working... again (was before)
[07:28] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: anyway, studio-controls saves autojackrc (old config) autojack runs convert-studio-controls and imports autojack.json
[07:45] <OvenWerks> unplugging has an if <param> == 'True' instead of if <param>   :P
[07:46] <OvenWerks> I am too tired, more testing tomorrow... headphones and stuff
[16:44] <MauroGaspari[m]> Eickmeyer Michael published my Ubuntu Studio 20.10 tutorial, follow up on the 20.10 release article https://frontpagelinux.com/tutorials/ubuntu-studio-20-10-audio-setup-tutorial/
[16:45] <MauroGaspari[m]> Feel free to comment if anything should be improved
[18:18] <Eickmeyer[m]> Mauro Gaspari: Ok, thanks. :)
[19:09] <Eickmeyer[m]> teward: PING! Check Telegram re: agordejo reupload


[00:47] <shaunlewis> I'm lookin to triage my first bug. I'm looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/842459. I'm tempted to comment with the stock response for debugging ACPI, given at  ps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Debugging_ACPI . Would that be the correct action to take?
[01:00] <shaunlewis> I'll go ahead and do it. I would be greatful if someone would check after and correct any mistake I might make
[07:59] <softexpert> hello everyone! does someone know if this is the right place to ask about network-manager-openvpn ?
[10:15] <JoshuaL> Hello, under 11.10 my magic trackpad stopped working, it does not connect anymore. what pakage do i need to report this bug to? It is using bluetooth to connect]
[10:27] <elleuca> could please someone take a look on this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/846916
[10:33] <trinikrono> is anyone good at debugging totem? i have a bug 846367
[10:33] <trinikrono> lol?
[10:33] <trinikrono> ubot not working
[10:34] <trinikrono> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/846367
[11:34] <penguin42> does anyone have access to MS Word or wordviewer to verifier that what I think is a LibreOffice bug, is ?
[11:37] <shaunlewis> I have word viewer via wine, if that'll help
[11:39] <penguin42> shaunlewis: I guess so - see: http://lhc-commissioning.web.cern.ch/lhc-commissioning/news-2011/presentations/week35/110905_TS_Summary.pptx
[11:39] <penguin42> shaunlewis: On LO there is a vertical stripe of mashed text on the 1st slide
[11:39] <penguin42> actually, all the slides
[11:41] <shaunlewis> I only have the word viewer. I'll need the powerpoint one for that
[11:42] <penguin42> ah, sorry
[11:42] <shaunlewis> Bear with, I'll see if I can install one
[11:42] <penguin42> Those LHC progress docs often show up LO bugs; I only understand bits of them but they're interesting reading
[11:52] <shaunlewis> I can confirm the vertical text in LO, but it refuses to open at all in MS Office PowerPoint Viewer 2003
[11:52] <penguin42> haha ok - thanks for trying
[11:53] <penguin42> I think I'll file the bug anyway, there is no way that can be right
[20:22] <jtaylor> typing öö crashes command-not-found
[20:22] <jtaylor> can someone reproduce?
[20:23] <htorque> yes
[20:23] <htorque> jtaylor: got a bug report to confirm?
[20:23] <jtaylor> no, will file soon
[20:24] <jtaylor> strange that one gets no backtrace
[20:25] <htorque> also crashing on °µ§´
[20:26] <htorque> might be easier for people to test that äöüß
[20:26] <htorque> *than
[20:27] <jtaylor> some python unicode issue, probably the same as softwarecenter etc gets


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[02:40] <BlueProtoman> Has anyone had problems with the Ubuntu One Android app?  For some reason, Ubuntu One no longer works on my Toshiba Thrive.  When I open it, it just crashes and prompts me to report it.
[03:15] <karni> BlueProtoman: hi
[03:15] <karni> BlueProtoman: I see that's a tablet. I'll have a look at the Thrive crash reports tomorrow. Thanks for reporting this!
[03:39] <BlueProtoman> karni: Thank you very much!
[03:39] <BlueProtoman> Any idea what it could (or couldn't) be?
[23:52] <hallyn> the album i bought a few hours ago doesn't seem to want to download over U1
[23:52] <hallyn> (haven't had problems in the past)